[00:47] <ScottL> knome, pong :)
[00:48] <knome> ScottL, hey
[00:48] <knome> ScottL, http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/www/ <- a variation/proposal for the frontpage style
[00:49] <ScottL> knome, do you think the tabs could be inside the area that changes?  just to free up vertical real estate
[00:49] <ScottL> it's looking good though
[00:49] <ScottL> i'm always worried about vertical real estate
[00:50] <knome> ScottL, yeah. with this way, we can actually just make the whole "bar" lower
[00:50] <ScottL> i'll see if i can find the svg for the logo tonight
[00:50] <knome> ScottL, but because it is "only" on the front page, i don't think it's TOO BAD :)
[00:50] <knome> ScottL, well i found something, after which that logo is created
[00:51] <knome> ScottL, you still want to keep that alignment (vs. the "new" style-like, where the circle is on the right?)
[00:51] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: lol
[00:51] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ubustulogo.svg
[00:52] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: Wikipedia always has the rarest SVG logos ;)
[00:52] <shnatsel|insomni> If I find an app that doesn't, I fix that immediately
[00:57] <ScottL> knome, we also have a logo where the logo is like a copyright symbol as superscript behind "ubuntu studio"
[00:57] <ScottL> that might be the one that i have
[00:57] <knome> just tell me whatever you want to use, or if you want me to work on a new version
[00:57] <ScottL> wow shnatsel|insomni , that's crazy.  i would have never thought about looking there Oo
[00:58] <ScottL> knome, i'll find what i can tonight and get it too you either tonight or tomorrow
[00:58] <knome> sure, no problem
[00:59] <ScottL> knome, would you be able to use percentages to set the <div> (or whatever) widths so it will fill up a widescreen?
[00:59] <knome> yes, that's the idea, it's just set to pixels right now. the layout is completely flexible already though
[01:12] <ScottL> thank you again, knome , for helping us with this....it's really amazing
[01:13] <knome> no problem, and thanks :)
[01:32] <knome> ScottL, the other option is to add « » arrows to the left/right side of the bar, and just leave the "tabs" out.
[01:33] <knome> ScottL, what do you think of that rather than the current style?
[01:38] <knome> anyway, got to sleep. it's soon 5am. see you tomorrow
[01:43] <ScottL> knome, wow, i get up at 6am most day and haven't stayed up till 5am in years and years and years ;)   i'm on old man, lol
[01:43] <ScottL> hi Daviey :)  are you david h. by chance?
[01:44] <ScottL> shnatsel|insomni, are you still working through the lightdm xubuntu session issue?
[01:44] <ScottL> i seem to have trouble with that before until i realized that it doesn't work for an existing user but did work for a new user
[01:44] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: it didn't work for me
[01:45] <ScottL> when the package is installed it sets 'xubuntu' as the default for new uses and at the end of the install you create your user, which is "new" user
[01:45] <ScottL> i believe i got it to work when i created additional new users for my test machine that was already installed
[01:45] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: in my case the user is created at boot time, casper switches it
[01:45] <ScottL> shnatsel|insomni, ah
[01:45] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: LiveDC
[01:46] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: but, it doesn't work :(
[01:46] <ScottL> right, hmmmm
[01:46] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: for some mysterious reason
[01:48] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: I'm not sure what exactly went wrong
[01:49] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: so I'm going to integrate our new login screen first
[01:49] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: elementary's I mean
[01:49] <shnatsel|insomni> ScottL: and then see what's wrong
[02:11] <ScottL> aye
[02:34] <ScottL> hi micahg
[02:35] <micahg> hi ScottL
[02:56] <shnatsel> uh, it's 06:55 here and I still don't want to sleep
[02:56] <shnatsel> dammit
[02:57] <shnatsel> I'm on my way to fixing the default session, just made one more step
[03:05] <ScottL> shnatsel, good that you made another step :)   bad that you are up so late :(


[11:06] <jml> "Report a bug" does not work for me.
[11:18] <wgrant> jml: The version on Product:+index works, Product:+bugs appears to have broken.
[11:18] <wgrant> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/203216 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1024866
[11:18] <_mup_> Bug #1024866: "report a bug" link is not working <Launchpad itself:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024866 >
[11:19] <jml> wgrant: thanks.


[00:46] <tecuane> man akonadi is still surprisingly bad
[00:46] <tecuane> add a remote ics and it just loses its mind, events flashing in korganiser as it claims "the hash has changed" twice a second
[00:46] <tecuane> outstanding move
 i dont know wth is akonadi
[07:07] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:44] <muhaha> guys, I can not connect with network manager to the openvpn server,  its working if I use sudo openvpn foo.config, problem is that it does not work without sudo so I am wondering whats missing ... Of course that I have network-manager-openvpn installed
[09:11] <lordievader> muhaha: Sounds like a rights issue. What do the logs say?
[09:14] <muhaha> lordievader nothing interesting, just connection reset , even wih network manager in debug mode...    openvpn client without sudo will not work ..  ERROR: Cannot ioctl TUNSETIFF tun: Operation not permitted (errno=1)
[09:14] <muhaha> Its basic use case with openvpn and network manager so I am wondering why should I change something
[09:17] <muhaha> I am not familiar how network manager can use openvpn without sudo ..
[09:21] <lordievader> muhaha: This might help you: http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/nonroot.html
[09:21] <lordievader> From https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/525409-Networkmanager-and-openvpn-crash
[09:22] <lordievader> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-hwe-snaps/+bug/1731056 seems to be a related bug.
[09:24] <muhaha> oh, nice, another major bug in 19.10 ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1853075
[11:20] <uczen> whatsup
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:20] <konrados> hi BluesKaj
[13:20] <konrados> I have a question - this is yet another time I can see some website suggests using gdebi to install stuff from .deb files, but... why? The 'discover' I use works fine, doesn't it? E.g. this site here: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-google-earth-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[13:20] <konrados> "We will be using gdebi to install the Google Earth package on our system. gdebi ensures that there are no hassles during the installation as it will also automatically fetch all package prerequisites."
[13:21] <konrados> what, 'discover' doesn't do that?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> hi konrados, I don't use discover due to it's missing options, if you insist on using a gui package manager use muon, it's very good
[13:26] <konrados> well, no, I don't insist, I was just curious. When I use e.g. wget and I'm in the cli, then I use apt install, but when I'm downloading using gui, then I usually want to stay in gui and click click click :)
[13:26] <konrados> I'l see this muon, thanks BluesKaj !
[13:26] <BluesKaj> yw :-)
[13:28] <BluesKaj> gdebs usually just download the package and have their own installer built in
 Hi
 Is there a way to compile Kamoso in Solus Plasma ?
[16:03] <genii> Solus is an independent distribution based on Budgie, you might want to ask instead in #solus-chat or #solus-dev
[16:04] <genii> There is also #ubuntu-budgie but the Solus-specific channels are more likely to be able to answer your questions
[16:24] <Guest5628> hello
[16:24] <Guest5628> anyone alive in here?
 Hi everybody
 Anyone can say me how I can create virtual interfaces from plasma-nm?
 (Photo, 629x654) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0xj4q9Rh/file_24445.jpg Only show me interface hardware based but not virtual.
[17:15] <Apurettin> hi
 @RikMills You da man~!  Thx for 5.18.2 PPA!
 you're welcome :)
 Hey guys! I cannot tell you enough, how excited I am for Kubuntu 20.04!!
[23:53] <bprompt> I'll be getting it, thoiugh I know the release date is May 2020 =), though always adverstised to April
[23:54] <dax> o.O
[23:54] <dax> is this some sort of misinterpretation of the release upgrade timelines
[23:55] <bprompt> ahh no, just a "constructive criticism", the date is April, but usually 25th or thereabouts, pretty much just the end of the month, as opposed to the beginning of the month
[23:55] <dax> uh
[23:56] <dax> April 23rd isn't in May, though?
[23:56] <bprompt> so, I always see it as May, because May is more reliable :)
[23:56] <dax> interesting
[23:56] <bprompt> now, if the release were April 1st or 3rd or even the 5th, that'd be very different
[23:56] <dax> well if you think about it, April 3rd is really March
[23:57] <bprompt> just about, yes, same with April 23rd, however on May, I know is there already, there's no 30-day range to guess
[23:59] <bprompt> sorta like going to the market and buying something for $4.99, I always think is $5, because that's reliable :), and yes, $4.99 is just a gimmick