[00:04] <DarkwingDuck> anyone seen jjesse?
[01:01] <shtylman> Riddell: are there gonna be kubuntu stickers at uds?
[01:01] <shtylman> and will they use the new logo and stuff?
[01:06] <valorie> dang, I want kubuntu stickers
[01:06] <valorie> we got no stickers at all for linuxfest NW
[01:07] <valorie> they sent CDs and a few Tshirts
[01:07] <valorie> but no stickers
[01:07] <valorie> :(
[01:47]  * ryanakca has a stack of old stickers he needs to find a use for
[01:48] <maco> valorie: ask ryanakca for his stickers?
[02:03] <claydoh> as a long time kde user, I want the *newest* stickers possible :D, even if there is still a letter or 2 not quite done
[02:05] <DarkwingDuck> ScottK: Is there any reason on the Release of KNR we kept the newspaper activity as Page One instead of changing it to another name?
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> ScottK: The name not being changed clashes with the written documentation for KNR.
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> ScottK: ironicly that is newspaper.
[05:30] <rgreening> neversfelde: hey.. did you figure out why it failed?
[05:42] <rgreening> neversfelde: ah.. I see the buildlog. I was sure I removed that patch before I did the debuild+upload... patch kubuntu_101... needs to be removed.
[05:52] <ScottK> DarkwingDuck: I thought we changed it.
[06:06] <rgreening> hey ScottK
[06:06] <ScottK> Hey
[06:07] <rgreening> I should be sleeping :)
[06:07] <rgreening> ha
[06:08] <rgreening> lp is misbehavin
[06:08] <rgreening> grr
[06:08] <rgreening> timeout timeout timeout
[07:30] <nixternal> woooooooo
[09:02] <maco> what would make knotify4 use 100% cpu?
[10:13] <valorie> good idea, maco. ryanakca, if you ever want to get rid of your stickers, the Washington LoCo would love 'em
[10:14] <valorie> esp. Kubuntu!
[10:14] <valorie> or KDE
[11:48] <maco> ugh. knotify4 running at 100% cpu for 5 hours = cpu temp of 65°C!
[13:20] <amichair> ScottK: Thanks for the tip on rsibreak, it's been a been amonth now, and it seems to make things better. I'm also experimenting with dasher, but that takes more getting used to...
[14:01] <oxymoron> When will Kdevelop4 be compiled and released today? :P
[14:08] <Riddell> shtylman: I've not heard that there will be stickers
[14:11] <amichair> stickers! where can I get kubuntu stickers?
[14:11] <Riddell> rumours of stickers are much exaggereated
[14:11] <amichair> sweaters? ;-)
[14:12] <claydoh> t-shirts in xxxxl??
[14:12] <oxymoron> When will Kdevelop4 be compiled and released today? :P
[14:13] <Riddell> oxymoron: I just accepted it into lucid backports so it should appear in an hour or two
[14:14] <oxymoron> Riddell: Oh sweeet <3 Would you be nice and give me ppa uri in ppa: format? :$
[14:14] <oxymoron> for backports I mean :P
[14:14] <Riddell> not a ppa, lucid-backports, just enable it in sources.list
[14:15] <oxymoron> Riddell: Aha, thanks man :)
[14:36] <ryanakca> valorie: Even if they have the old logo?
[14:50] <Tm_T> ScottK: livecd tested, all works fine, installer tested as far as possible without touching already installed system
[15:02] <Riddell> Tm_T: what are you testing?
[15:08] <ScottK> Riddell: powerpc final live CD.
[15:14] <Quintasan> \o
[15:42] <oxymoron> Riddell: Do you know what the status for Kdevelop is for the moment? :)
[15:43] <Riddell> not there yet
[15:43] <oxymoron> Okay, thanks :)
[15:44] <oxymoron> Riddell: If you remember and have time it would be kind of you if you told me when its there :$
[15:44] <oxymoron> Or maybe a link where I can check for myself its better on second hand :P
[16:05] <shtylman> Riddell: why you gotta crush hopes are dreams like that?
[16:12] <vorian> dude, this is awesome
[16:12] <vorian> at work, running kubuntu
[16:12] <vorian> fantastico!
[16:51] <oxymoron> Riddell: "Lucid sparc   Failed to build " for Kdevelop 4.0.0. I cant see them on backports yet even though they are built? :P
[17:08] <oxymoron> kdevelop-data is missing which kdevelop requires for satisfaction :P
[17:16] <Riddell> oxymoron: kdevelop Depends: kdevelop-data (>= 4:4.0.0-0ubuntu1)
[17:19] <oxymoron> Riddell: Yes which couldnt found, but now I found it somewhere else manually :P
[17:19] <oxymoron> Riddell: sudoapt-get install kdevelop didnt work unfortunalty.
[17:20] <Riddell> it's there on the main archive
[17:22] <oxymoron> Riddell: The source cannot be found yet for me.
[17:22] <oxymoron> Not sure if it havent been added to list yet.
[17:23] <Schnacki> Hi, I hope I'm not at the wrong spot here (#kubuntu seems not techie enough): I've got a "hang"-problem at the splashscreen after upgrading to 10.04 which looks similar to #538524 from launchpad, but as that was fixed 1 1/2 months ago it's probably something else. Can anybody assist me in trying to diagnose this?
[17:29] <oxymoron> Riddell: Aha now I see where the problem was. My mirrors was using swedish servers instead of main server :P
[17:38] <Schnacki> hm, nobody with a "little" time at hand here, either?
[18:00] <ghostcube> update to lucid went flawless :)
[18:01] <Schnacki> well, my update did, too. But since the 2. or 3. reboot it won't boot without removing the "quiet splash" flags from the kernel parameters
[18:43] <bulldog98> Good evening. I’d like to help with the packaging of KDE SC 4.4.3. I’m not very expired, so I would need a mentor. Regards Jonathan
[19:26] <blueyed> Schnacki: are you using cryptsetup, raid or lvm? anyways, you may want to report this - if not done already.
[19:45] <Schnacki> blueyed: thanks for anwsering. No. I don't use any of these.
[19:46] <Schnacki> blueyed: I do want to report this. I'd just like to have more information than just "it hangs with splashscreen at boot" :)
[19:48] <txwikinger> How comes that every time we have a new release the weather plasmoids do not work for Canada anymore
[20:00] <ScottK> txwikinger: You need a weather plasmoid to tell you cold and snowy?
[20:00] <Quintasan> :D
[20:00] <txwikinger> ScottK: No.. i don't want to see the can't connection anymore
[20:01] <txwikinger> Anyway... it's 25C and very humid... no snow to see for miles
[20:04] <ScottK> Tm_T, nixternal, and NCommander: Can any of you do install testing on powerpc?  Tm_T's live CD testing is great, but we need to get some installation testing if we're going to call powerpc released.
[20:05] <NCommander> ScottK: no hardware with me that works
[20:05] <ScottK> Meh.
[20:05] <ScottK> Hardware elsewhere?
[20:24] <NCommander> :tdaje G am jsmd ,gkj yamgpt yso kjd ldbk mslkj
[20:24] <NCommander> wow ..
[20:24] <NCommander> sorry, wrong keyboard layout :-)
[20:24] <NCommander> I'm home with family for the next month, I only brought the essentials with me
[20:24] <jjesse> for some reason i totaly understood that :) :) :)
[21:40] <Quintasan> anyone here running KDE trunk?
[22:08] <valorie> ryanakca: yes, we get asked for stickers, and have none to give
[22:47] <DarkwingDuck> ScottK: I downloaded it and installed last night. It's still Page One


[05:34] <kbmonkey> morning
[06:05] <Kilos> morning all
[06:19] <DeonP> morning
[06:24] <Kilos> morning DeonP psychicist
[06:25] <Kilos> DeonP, have you contacted your service provider, maybe they got something stopping you getting setup
[06:28] <psychicist> morning Kilos
[06:28] <Kilos> or maybe resovconf
[06:28] <Kilos> resolvconf
[06:29] <Kilos> i remember something about a conflick somewhere when doing ssh
[06:29] <Kilos> conflict
[06:32] <DeonP> i have, waiting for call
[06:32] <Kilos> ah
[07:00] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday
[07:00] <Kilos> hi tonberry352_
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[07:21] <Kilos> oh DeonP also mail our list with the prob
[07:21] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[07:21] <Kilos> lots more clever peeps on our lists
[07:22] <Kilos> morning superfly
[07:23] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:23] <superfly> HawkiesZA says hi too
[07:23] <Kilos> ah ty tell him howsit
[07:42] <DeonP> i posted my problem an askubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/340325/problem-connecting-to-isp-server-using-xl2tpd-as-client-ubuntu-server-13-04
[07:42] <DeonP> lets see what comes back
[08:04] <mazal> Morning everyone
[08:07] <Kilos-> hi barrydk
[08:08] <barrydk> Good morning Kilos  and everyone
[08:09] <barrydk> Kilos, what was the name and mod of that router we talked about?
[08:10] <Kilos> oh my
[08:10] <Kilos> the one i have?
[08:10] <Kilos> or the one you wanna try get
[08:10] <barrydk> think so is it a 220 (something) its all i remember
[08:10] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:11] <barrydk> Or how can i go back to last weeks posts?
[08:11] <Kilos> you should try get one like the pros one. it can take a plugin ext antenna
[08:12] <barrydk> think it was that one
[08:12] <Kilos> i can never find the logs, always have to ask here
[08:13] <Kilos> http://www.irclog.org/ircnetwork/freenode.html
[08:13] <Kilos> see if that helps
[08:18] <mazal> That logs addy in the topic works nice
[08:18] <Kilos> hi mazal
[08:19] <mazal> Lo oom
[08:19] <barrydk> Ish looks like hard work where is the pro
[08:19] <Kilos> lekker gerus?
[08:19] <mazal> "gerus" is 'n  relatiewe term oom hehehe. Maar dit was lekker ja dankie
[08:20] <Kilos> he has been so busy lately only pops in at night
[08:23] <Kilos> hi smile
[08:23] <smile> hi Kilos :D
[08:23] <smile> how are you? :)
[08:24] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[08:24] <Kilos> :) :-)
[08:24] <Kilos> thats my smileys for the week
[08:25] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:25] <psyatw> hi smile
[08:25] <psyatw> hi ma
[08:25] <psyatw> mazal
[08:25] <smile> Kilos: only two? :)
[08:25] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:25] <smile> I'm fine too :D
[08:26] <Kilos> ya man smileys are hard work for me
[08:26] <smile> My laptop is working now :)
[08:26] <smile> :DD
[08:26] <Kilos> yay
[08:26] <smile> Runnin' Mint + Windows 7
[08:26] <smile> You know UEFI, Kilos? :)
[08:26] <Kilos> ?
[08:27] <Kilos> is that the thing thats replacing mbr
[08:27] <smile> It's the successor of BIOS :)
[08:27] <Kilos> guid
[08:27] <smile> UEFI+GPT = BIOS+MBR
[08:27] <smile> ;)
[08:27] <Kilos> ah
[08:27] <smile> GPT = GUID Partition Table
[08:27] <smile> :)
[08:28] <smile> UEFI quite sucks at the moment ;)
[08:28] <smile> I just erased my whole hard disk on the laptop and reinstalled everything again in legacy mode
[08:28] <smile> At least Linux boots now :)
[08:29] <Kilos> i had to remove it once and put mbr back
[08:29] <smile> That's what I did
[08:29] <smile> ;)
[08:29] <Kilos> too much to remember
[08:29] <Kilos> and we trying to learn LPI
[08:30] <smile> Linux Professional Institute ? :)
[08:30] <Kilos> you can join #linux-studies
[08:30] <Kilos> we gonna have a class on friday evenings
[08:32] <Kilos> http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/sites/default/files/LPIManual_v_09.pdf\
[08:32] <Kilos> no back slash
[08:32] <Kilos> fingers too fat
[08:33] <smile> Kilos: I see :D
[08:33]  * smile looks at the PDF
[08:34] <smile> Heavy PDF :D
[08:35] <Kilos> lots to learn
[08:39] <smile> Yeah, it's basically a free book
[08:39] <smile> :)
[08:41] <smile> Kilos: what's evening? ;)
[08:41] <smile> 23:00? ;)
[08:43] <Kilos> 19.30 about
[08:44] <Kilos> but peeps pop in and out all the time
[08:47] <smile> :D
[08:47] <smile> okay :)
[09:03] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[09:31] <Kilos> hi Tinuva wb
[09:31] <Tinuva> thx
[09:32] <Kilos> you work for an isp hey?
[09:32] <Kilos> sorry for forgetting
[09:33] <Tinuva> yeah
[09:34] <Kilos> not mtn by chance
[09:34] <Tinuva> no
[09:34] <Kilos> hehe we have one guy battling a bit
[09:35] <Tinuva> mtn you get things fixed only one way
[09:35] <Tinuva> you start emailing them on a daily basis on what you need to get fixed
[09:35] <Kilos> haha yeah thats what i did before i found 8ta
[09:35] <Tinuva> then after a month, you track down who the personal assistants are of the managers, email them on a daily basis, they will then make sure it gets sorted out so that you can stop spamming them
[09:35] <Kilos> same with voda
[09:36] <Kilos> also hassle them on twitter too
[10:41] <Squirm> afternoon
[10:41] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[11:03] <zerlgi> Maaz seen Maiatoday
[11:03] <Maaz> zerlgi: Maiatoday was last seen 2 hours and 31 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-09-02 11:03:00 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-09-02 12:32:23 SAST
[11:13] <zerlgi> HI Kilos
[11:13] <Kilos> hi zerlgi howit?
[11:13] <zerlgi> Hi. Good tx
[11:47] <Kilos> why would one want to fiddle with runlevels?
[11:48] <mazal> Only time I use it is when I need to force a restart
[11:48] <mazal> Then I iniate level 6
[11:48] <mazal> Other than that I never fiddle with it
[11:49] <Kilos> ah
[11:53] <zerlgi> I use runlevels when rescueing systems. boot into runlevel 1
[11:53] <zerlgi> then instead of rebooting (because servers take up to 15 mins to run through their hardware checks)
[11:53] <zerlgi> ... I init 3 or 5 (whichever is relevent)
[12:35] <zerlgi> goodbye for now folks.
[12:42] <barrydk> Buy guys
[12:51] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a good evening
[14:28] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:51] <Kilos> things are getting too good. no one needs help anymore
[14:52] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, you still gotta do the late avy sorting
[14:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> the what now? o_O
[14:53] <Kilos> others already on thier way home or nearly
[14:53] <Kilos> till 6 pm
[14:53] <Kilos> sysadmin stuff
[14:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm trying to make sense of your sentence
[14:53] <Kilos> haha
[14:54] <Kilos> well like the pro says when others go home the sysadmin starts working
[14:54] <inetpro> uh
[14:54] <Kilos> m0orning inetpro
[14:54] <Kilos> oo
[14:54] <inetpro> goeie more oom
[14:54] <Kilos> morning
[14:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh
[14:55] <inetpro> hoe't jy geweet ek het nou eers wakker geword?
[14:55] <Kilos> haha
[14:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think you should read what you said again... my brain is not able to parse it :P
[14:55] <Kilos> spioene
[14:55] <Kilos> yeah i dunno why it came out like that
[14:56] <Kilos> meant the sorting of other peeps day before you knock off
[15:08] <Kilos> i also meant are they still keeping you till 6 for these last coupla weeks
[15:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh
[15:27] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[15:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> they don't "keep" me til 6, my normal hours are 9.30 til 6
[15:28] <Kilos> ahya
[15:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> it works out well for me with the kids' routine and the traffic patterns
[15:28] <Kilos> aha too
[15:28] <Kilos> im not parsing to well today seems like
[15:28] <Kilos> hi Snowy2
[15:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> new job is only 10km from home so traffic not really much of a concern at all
[15:28] <Kilos> great
[16:00] <theblazehen> so I have 2 MB of ram free...
[16:00] <theblazehen> Anything that uses less ram than vi?
[16:02] <Vince-0> nano?
[16:03] <theblazehen> ah there we go. arounk 300 KB less
[16:03] <theblazehen> I'm not sure if I should run a webserver + mailserver on 128 MB RAM...
[16:04] <Vince-0> OS?
[16:04] <theblazehen> think wordpress will run in 3 MB?
[16:04] <theblazehen> ubuntu server
[16:06] <theblazehen> does sh use less ram than bash? .......
[16:09] <Vince-0> sh is bash
[16:10] <theblazehen> I thought bash had more features?
[16:11] <Vince-0> sh is a specification
[16:11] <theblazehen> ah ok
[16:11] <theblazehen> Well which binary uses less ram?
[16:11] <Vince-0> bash is the implementation
[16:11] <theblazehen> ok
[16:13] <theblazehen> got 24 MB free now.
[16:13] <theblazehen> After a reboot
[16:14] <Vince-0> are you running a minimal install?
[16:17] <WOLFEYES> good day everyone
[16:17] <Vince-0> surp
[16:18] <Vince-0> theblazehen: I have ubuntu with lxde running on my arm tablet and it uses 116MB RAM idle
[16:19] <theblazehen> Vince-0, ah ok
[16:20] <theblazehen> at install mine used less than 28 MB
[16:20] <theblazehen> then i installed lamp-server and mail-server
[16:22] <Vince-0> you could try a smaller web and mail server
[16:22] <WOLFEYES> sorry guys I need a little bit of help please....with kde
[16:23] <WOLFEYES> I did an upgrade and it removed all panels from off the desktop, how do I get them back, right click doesn't help.!
[16:23] <WOLFEYES> I have to open all programs with the terminal...
[16:23] <theblazehen> Vince-0, good idea
[16:25] <Kilos> im just googling
[16:25] <Vince-0> WOLFEYES: try restoring default KDE settings?  Can you upload more than 1MB over tcp?
[16:43] <Tonberry> something forcefully kills my tcp connections if I go over that
[16:49] <Kilos> looks like he killed it Vince-0
[16:52] <Vince-0> ow, that'd be me killing it too
[16:53] <Kilos> lol
[16:53] <Kilos> i wonder what went wrong with the upgrade
[16:55] <Vince-0> what's the problem now?
[16:55] <Kilos> ?
[16:55] <Kilos> he dont seem to be able to boot
[16:56] <Kilos> lets hope he just went shopping and the pc is fine
[16:59] <Vince-0> ow, booting won't be affected by KDE settings
[16:59] <Kilos> maybe black screen so he sees nothing
[17:00] <Kilos> maybe those other things you turn off
[17:00] <Kilos> alt+shift+f12 bypasses it
[17:01] <Kilos> im just gonna boot into kde
[17:01] <Kilos> wbb
[17:02] <WOLFEYES> still nothing
[17:02] <Vince-0> what upgrade broke it?
[17:02] <WOLFEYES> but I can open the system settings page
[17:03] <WOLFEYES> I have no clue
[17:03] <WOLFEYES> how do I check that
[17:03] <WOLFEYES> or how do I fix it
[17:03] <Vince-0> what did you do when it broke
[17:05] <WOLFEYES> tried to find the missing panel
[17:05] <WOLFEYES> nothing worked
[17:05] <WOLFEYES> so I tried the terminal
[17:05] <WOLFEYES> it worked
[17:05] <WOLFEYES> connected to the net
[17:05] <Vince-0> ok so broken panel
[17:05] <WOLFEYES> and cames here
[17:05] <WOLFEYES> seems that way
[17:05] <WOLFEYES> and pidgin too
[17:06] <Vince-0> what did the command string return:
[17:06] <Vince-0> kquitapp plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma
[17:06] <WOLFEYES> I pasted it int he room
[17:06] <WOLFEYES> hold on I will fetch it
[17:07] <WOLFEYES> http://slexy.org/view/s21mkxQyH1
[17:07] <Vince-0> that's the previous command
[17:08] <WOLFEYES> ok
[17:08] <WOLFEYES> let me reopen it in firefox
[17:21] <Kilos-> grrr
[17:43] <Kilos> what did i miss Vince-0 . pc decided to auto reboot
[17:45] <Vince-0> nothin, *playing battlefield
[17:45] <Kilos> hehe
[17:57] <magespawn> good evening
[17:58] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[18:04] <magespawn> how is it going?
[18:05] <charl_> hi Kilos
[18:05] <charl_> hi magespawn
[18:05] <charl_> hi Vince-0
[18:13] <Kilos> grrr
[18:17] <Vince-0> haai
[18:17] <magespawn> hi charl_
[18:30] <Kilos-> sorry for the join/part peeps. pc keeps rebooting on its own
[18:52] <magespawn> not much luck Kilos
[18:53] <Kilos> your side mage?
[18:54] <magespawn> installed and running, need to create a normal user
[18:54] <Kilos> lol
[18:55] <Kilos> i got mine going too, reinstalled
[18:55] <magespawn> cool beans
[18:55] <Kilos> but now need this pc to be online
[18:55] <Kilos> other one keeps rebooting
[18:55] <Kilos> grrr
[18:59] <magespawn> strange, is not, maybe, over heating?
[18:59] <Kilos> ?
[18:59] <Kilos> trying another old psu
[19:00] <Kilos> otherwise blow clean tomorrow
[19:45] <Kilos-> night all. sleep tight
[19:45] <psychicist> good night Kilos-
[19:46] <magespawn> good night all


[01:52] <Mashandar> hello
[03:03] <popman> hey
[03:03] <popman> I'm trying to boot into bios in my dell and I'm having trouble
[03:07] <TheSheep> boot into bios?
[03:07] <TheSheep> what do you mean?
[03:10] <popman> I'm trying to press F2 or del to boot into moo bio's I can't seem to do it on this dell
[03:12] <Unit193> It can also be F1
[03:13] <popman> o
[03:13] <popman> I'll try that
[03:14] <TheSheep> or del
[03:15] <TheSheep> and it's not related to linux or xubuntu in any way
[03:16] <popman> nope
[03:17] <popman> just bought this older computer for $5
[03:17] <popman> has windows on it
[03:17] <popman> if I cram the keys to press f1, f2, and del think that's a affective method in attempting to boot into bios?
[03:17] <TheSheep> I had some old compaq that didn't have bios by itself, you had to boot it from a special system disk to access bios settings
[03:18] <Unit193> What's the specs on that $5 laptop?
[03:18] <popman> I got the bios somehow
[03:18] <TheSheep> by disk I mean disquette
[03:18] <popman> I think it was del
[03:18] <popman> also i put in a new keyboard
[03:19] <TheSheep> del, dell, makes sense ;)
[03:19] <popman> The other one worked but kept reading that their was a error on the keyboard i assume a driver error
[03:19] <popman> :D
[06:40] <ubuntu_> hi is there an easy way to tell if my mic will work in xubuntu?
[11:17] <horse> good morning everyone. Ive got a acer travelmate 521tev notebook here with a p3 600 MHz, 256 MB RAM and a ati rage mobility 8 mb. Will xubuntu run on this machine?
[11:20] <Sysi> horse: should run, but you could also consider lubuntu
[11:26] <horse> what would make lubuntu fitting better than xubuntu?. sorry if it sounds stupid, im an absolute linux newbie (i want to change that - starting with this laptop).
[11:27] <horse> or do u have an even better distribution, one more appropriate for that ancient hardware xD
[11:28] <Sysi> lubuntu uses less ram
[11:28] <Sysi> 256 should be enough for xubuntu though
[11:29] <horse> yeah, but the video ram worries me a bit.
[11:30] <Sysi> both should work on pretty bad graphics too
[11:30] <horse> bad grafics are enough grafics.
[11:30] <horse> :)
[11:34] <horse> and another question. ignorinng the hardware, which distribution would you consider to be the best for beginners? Im guessing this will anyway be ubuntu. are xubuntu and lubuntu any different in that regard?
[11:35] <Sysi> maybe a little but not much
[11:35] <Sysi> they're also tried to be made easy
[11:39] <horse> to be precise it will actualy my second linux system. atm im running a hard drive install of damn small linux, but dsl seems to be to specific for my purpose?
[11:45] <horse> alright, im getting lubuntu anyway. thank you very much Sysi, much appreciated.
[11:45] <Sysi> np
[22:04] <metroid1> hey, so i did an update yesterday and now i get this warning when i attempt to open my home folder: Error stating file '/home/username/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.
[22:04] <metroid1> does anyone know what this means and/or how to fix it?
[22:08] <metroid1> brb
[22:15] <metroid1> ok, i am back
[22:15] <Unit193> metroid1: In terminal enter: ls -al /home/username/ | grep gvfs
[22:16] <metroid1> ls: cannot access /home/username/.gvfs: Transport endpoint is not connected
[22:16] <metroid1> d?????????   ? ?       ?           ?                ? .gvfs
[22:17] <Sysi> gvfs is kinda special..
[22:17] <Sysi> what upgrade, 10.04 → 10.10?
[22:39] <metroid1> Sysi: 10.10 (sorry for the delay)
[22:40] <Sysi> you just installed normal updates?
[22:40] <metroid1> yep
[22:41] <metroid1> i have a repos for a music player turned on but the updates weren't for it
[22:41] <metroid1> i believe it was mostly kernel stuff
[22:45] <Sysi> you could try reinstalling gvfs
[22:45] <Sysi> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get reinstall gvfs
[22:45] <metroid1> ok, will do!
[22:45] <Sysi> apt-get --purge reinstall could be better
[22:46] <metroid1> what is gvfs?
[22:47] <Sysi> thingy for remote filesystems etc
[22:48] <metroid1> i don't think reinstall is valid
[22:49] <knome> you don't lose anything if you try. :)
[22:49] <metroid1> could i just purge it then reinstall it right after?
[22:50] <Sysi> propably, if it isn't removing lots of other stuff
[22:54] <metroid1> ok, i reinstalled it
[22:54] <metroid1> maybe i will have to restart
[22:58] <metroid1> reinstalling didn't work... but i didn't purge...
[23:43] <metroid1> now i seem to be able to access my home folder!
[23:43] <metroid1> does this look like how it should?
[23:43] <metroid1> ls -al /home/username/ | grep gvfs
[23:43] <metroid1> dr-x------   2 username username     0 2011-03-19 19:38 .gvfs
[23:44] <Sysi> yup
[23:44] <Sysi> what did you do?
[23:44] <metroid1> sweet
[23:44] <metroid1> i am not sure exactly
[23:44] <Sysi> heh, the usual
[23:44] <metroid1> it seems i traded my desktop for my home folder because now my desktop is just a big sheet of grey with no icons
[23:45] <metroid1> the panel is working though
[23:45] <Sysi> maybe desktop just crashed
[23:45] <Sysi> alt+F2 "xfdesktop"
[23:47] <metroid1> huh.
[23:47] <metroid1> yep that was it
[23:48] <metroid1> well we'll see how long this lasts for!
[23:48] <metroid1> thanks for the help
[23:48] <Sysi> np
[23:49] <metroid1> maybe i will restart a couple more times to see how resilient it is
[23:50] <Sysi> you you wanna be more sure, rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions
[23:50] <Sysi> and save working session on logout
[23:51] <metroid1> just once or everytime i log out?
[23:52] <Sysi> save session? shouldn't matter very much