[07:48] <spo> command 1 & ; command 2 & ; command 3&  nor  command 1; command 2; command 3  &   --- neither of these work for putting three subsequential commands in background
[07:48] <toupeiro> myownserver: yes, it for that use case, I would use your own.  If you don't I would seriously consider using a static IP and port forwarding
[07:49] <toupeiro> Ben64: Can't say I experienced that.  I just tried
[07:49] <Ben64> spo: command1 & command2 &
[07:49] <Someoneis> where can i get linux image headers? and what do they do?
[07:49] <Vinceman> what happens if I type in my e-mail and password in here? http://yesterdays-nightmare.com/?naughty=inez_vroegop&image=DSC00245.JPG
[07:50] <spo> ben64 , command2 won't run until after command1 is completed?
[07:50] <noob> leaf it worked
[07:50] <Ben64> spo: runs them all at the same time for me
[07:50] <nmvicky> Someoneis:quick search it in synaptic package manager then mark for installation
[07:50] <spo> i want to run them subsequentially
[07:50] <Ben64> ohhh
[07:51] <myownserver> toupeiro: Static IP's cost a lot here and for a personal web server, it's not practical since it's not making me money
[07:51] <darlek> Someoneis, they fix the error message you had before when make'ing a compile
[07:51] <zvacet> darlek : you should see it in fstab   gedit /etc/fstab
[07:51] <toupeiro> myownserver:  Do you have a policy in place that would prevent you from putting it on a private network with port forwarding?
[07:51] <Ben64> myownserver: just use a public dns server
[07:51] <Frivero> got this error message while updating:
[07:51] <Frivero> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.28-15-generic_2.6.28-15.49_i386.deb
[07:51] <Frivero>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[07:51] <Frivero> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-2.6.28-15_2.6.28-15.49_all.deb
[07:51] <Frivero>   Unable to connect to security.ubuntu.com http:
[07:51] <FloodBot3> Frivero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:51] <Frivero> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-2.6.28-15-generic_2.6.28-15.49_i386.deb
[07:52] <Ben64> home connection + servers = not ideal
[07:52] <darlek> Someoneis, run uname -a to determine the kernel version then use synaptic to find the headers maybe?
[07:52] <myownserver> toupeiro: No, there's nothing preventing that.
[07:52] <Someoneis> i got linux headers 2.6.27-7 that good?
[07:53] <zvacet> Frivero : change server
[07:53] <dotblank> Someoneis: Why do you need to manually buid madwifi?
[07:53] <darlek> zvacet, thing is it's on a usb drive, so that command gives me my current drive, not the usb drive.  Since I can't access root of the usb drive, nor can I get the fstab there
[07:53] <myownserver> public DNS services cost money, money I don't have to be honest.
[07:53] <Ben64> myownserver: it's free
[07:53] <Someoneis> it says so, so i can install it
[07:53] <Ben64> just use <IP_ADDRESS> and bam, free dns
[07:53] <toupeiro> myownserver:  Thats basically what I do to hit my webserver.  I hit the IP address associated with my router, and I have apache listening on a specific TCP port, so the url for me is tailed with :<port_number>
[07:53] <nmvicky> i have an issue with virtual box, whenever it captures the mouse gesture, the mouse becomes invisible in my host OS and only a reboot reverts the situation.Anyone know what the problem is?help!!!
[07:53] <Frivero> zvacet: how?
[07:53] <leaf-sheep> Frivero: Try again.
[07:54] <zvacet> Frivero: system>admin>software sources
[07:54] <darlek> zvacet, I'm guessint ext2 for the sake of it, and trying to understand what superblock I need for e2fsck -b <some number> in order to get the copy of the block info
[07:54] <toupeiro> myownserver>  probably not the most ideal solution depending on what you are trying to do with it, but it will work. :)
[07:54] <_ronald> how do I sudo in xubuntu? I would like to make a starter that will launch a program as root.
[07:54] <toupeiro> myownserver> and work with DHCP
[07:54] <Frivero> leaf-sheep: tried several times and still get error
[07:54] <toupeiro> myownserver> depending on what kind of router you have
[07:54] <zvacet> darlek: sorry I can not help you with that one
[07:54] <myownserver> I've just been doing some research on DNS Servers and trying to figure out their practicality, function on a personal user level, etc.
[07:54] <leaf-sheep> Frivero: Even "sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade" ?
[07:55] <darlek> zvacet, no prob
[07:55] <Ben64> myownserver: what exactly are you trying to do? i think you have the wrong idea of what a dns server does
[07:55] <myownserver> In other words, I'm trying to learn and understand them in the practicality sense now.
[07:55] <Ben64> there are tons of free dns servers
[07:55] <poent> whats the different between aptitude and apt-get?
[07:55] <Frivero> leaf-sheep: havent tried that one
[07:55] <Ben64> <IP_ADDRESS>-5, opendns, <IP_ADDRESS>, etc, etc
[07:55] <leaf-sheep> toupeiro: Saying... I want to jump in the conversation, BIND9 is something I'd want to use on the laptop? Mainly for home network so I can ssh in without finding out IP address but their hostnames?
[07:56] <myownserver> Ben64: that would be great to know the whole list, since the ones' I've found are very restricted or are not really free.
[07:56] <dotblank> leaf-sheep: you can normally fo this without fns by netbios and wins
[07:56] <Ben64> myownserver: what are you trying to do with a dns server; what do you think they provide?????????
[07:57] <Someoneis> woohoo its compiling, many thanks for helping me
[07:57] <Frivero> and sorry all for the flood
[07:57] <leaf-sheep> poent: Commandline Package Manager. There also are Synaptic or Add/Remove for GUI.
[07:57] <toupeiro> leaf-sheep:  I can't say I've tried that exactly, but theoritically you can connect to whatever private network attached machine you want if the router has rules enabling you to.
[07:57] <Vinceman> you ignored me!
[07:57] <leaf-sheep> poent: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[07:57] <lizone> is 'fuse' still a module in jaunty?
[07:58] <myownserver> Well, a Dynamic DNS server was one idea.  I've stumbled across a little bit of info on LANs, which I'm curious if that substitutes what you can do with the HOSTS file, such as fakename = <IP_ADDRESS>, etc.
[07:58] <leaf-sheep> dotblank: What do you mean?
[07:58] <toupeiro> myownserver:  DNS provides name resolution.  thats its big purpose.  So you can type things by name rather than having to memorize ip addresses.
[07:58] <_ronald> how do I sudo in xubuntu? I would like to make a starter that will launch a program as root.
[07:59] <dotblank> leaf-sheep: ask yourself how does windows know the ip address of a computer by hostname
[07:59] <Someoneis> when i make install i get this error, make[1]: Entering directory `/home/simpsons/madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-r4068-20090705/ath'
[07:59] <Someoneis> test -d //lib/modules/2.6.27-14-generic/net || mkdir -p //lib/modules/2.6.27-14-generic/net
[07:59] <Someoneis> mkdir: cannot create directory `//lib/modules/2.6.27-14-generic/net': Permission denied
[07:59] <Someoneis> make[1]: *** [install] Error 1
[07:59] <Someoneis> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/simpsons/madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-r4068-20090705/ath'
[07:59] <Someoneis> make: *** [install-modules] Error 1
[07:59] <FloodBot3> Someoneis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <Ben64> myownserver: i'm still not sure what you want it to do, and where you are finding dns servers you have to pay for
[07:59] <toupeiro> myownserver: DynamicDNS is DNS that allows automatic record updates, usually by a DHCP server
[07:59] <nmvicky> i have an issue with virtual box, whenever it captures the mouse gesture, the mouse becomes invisible in my host OS and only a reboot reverts the situation.Anyone know what the problem is?help!!!
[07:59] <Someoneis> Oops
[07:59] <Ben64> for example, let's say i own meth-lab.biz
[07:59] <dotblank> Someoneis: run "sudo make install"
[08:00] <Someoneis> oops, that was not what was planned
[08:00] <zheng_> HI, There, How can I install gnutls-devel-2.* libarary onto ubuntu-8.04.3?
[08:00] <Ben64> when someone goes to www.meth-lab.biz, it goes to their dns server, which tells your computer that it is at <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:00] <Ben64> which is a lot harder to remember than meth-lab.biz
[08:00] <myownserver> Correct.
[08:00] <ALexia> ok so im having problems with extremely low volume, i have tried gnome volume control, alsamixer(which strangely wont load), and i tried to load alsaconf(not included in alsa-utils?) and now im just lost can anyone help
[08:00] <leaf-sheep> dotblank: netbios and wins, I suppose.  I'm trying to figure out how I could connect to any machines (in private/local network) without having to resort to their machines or to use router configuration to find out IP addresses.
[08:00] <myownserver> Ben64: Now what about over a LAN?
[08:00] <ALexia> Someoneis: do you still need help?
[08:01] <Ben64> sooooo myownserver, what are you trying to accomplish? where are you going that they want you to pay for dns resolution?
[08:01] <Ben64> myownserver: what about a lan?
[08:01] <zheng_> I tried "apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev "  and "apt-get install gnutls-dev", but they are all gnu-tls -1.0
[08:01] <Someoneis> oh not any more.. just did sudo make install instead of make install walla
[08:01] <darlek> sudo e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sdb not working... any ideas on recovering a superblock error for a root drive in ext2?
[08:01] <zvacet> nmvicky: you have shortcut for that you can see it before you capture mouse gesture
[08:01] <myownserver> dyndns.com is one.
[08:01] <dotblank> leaf-sheep: you could always do a braodcast ping for host discovery
[08:01] <Someoneis> how can i find out what wireleess card drivers i have?
[08:01] <Ben64> darlek: you might want to try /dev/sdb1
[08:01] <dotblank> Someoneis: lspci -v
[08:01] <Someoneis> thanks
[08:02] <ALexia> Does anyone have any ideas where to start?
[08:02] <Ben64> myownserver: seems free to me
[08:02] <myownserver> Ok, in a LAN, let's say my server is on <IP_ADDRESS> and I want to use the name mywebsite to access it on all of the computers in the LAN.  Instead of going to each computer's HOSTS file, can a DNS resolve that on a local level?
[08:02] <toupeiro> myownserver: A LAN stands for local area network, which revers to more than one machine configured to talk to one another.  Lan's are generally reserved to small locations or buildings, subnets, or single switches.
[08:02] <dotblank> myownserver: yes a local dns server can do that
[08:03] <toupeiro> myownserver: DNS can do that for you, yes
[08:03] <kamokow> It is possible
[08:03] <darlek> Ben64, yes tried that too :( ... I'm googling
[08:03] <ALexia> zheng_, can I pm you?
[08:03] <roberto__> ciao a tutti
[08:03] <poent> thanks for the link leaf-sheep
[08:03] <Someoneis> alright guys, be right back. Rebooting
[08:03] <roberto__> !list
[08:03] <zheng_> ALexia, yes
[08:03] <Ben64> darlek: try sdb2 and sdb3 and so on, parted can show you the partition table of it
[08:03] <leaf-sheep> poent: Sure thing.
[08:03] <myownserver> Is it complicated to do that and what keeps it local and not public?
[08:03] <nmvicky> zvacet: ok the problem is after capture,even pressing right_CTRL doesnt show the mouse at all. it like dissapears.
[08:03] <leaf-sheep> dotblank: Broadcast ping one machine at a time?
[08:03] <darlek> Ben64, thanks I'll give it a try
[08:04] <Ben64> myownserver: you could have it accessed by the hostname of the computer
[08:04] <Ben64> like my computer's name is "ben64" so if i go to http://ben64/ on my network, it goes here
[08:04] <myownserver> Gotcha.
[08:04] <toupeiro> myownserver:  DNS is not alltogether complicated.  there are plenty of howto's on how to do it which you can find on google, and how to restrict DNS
[08:05] <Ben64> but if you only want to server on your own network, it can't be that many computers, add whatever to the hosts file, way easier than setting up a dns server
[08:05] <dotblank> leaf-sheep: if you run "ping -b <IP_ADDRESS>" it should return all hosts on the network that respond to icmp requests.. also checking the arp table might help.. further more you can set up a dhcp server so when new computers are added to the network it would grab a lease and you could check that
[08:05] <myownserver> Ben64: Well a lot of it is I'm wanting to learn more about it as well.
[08:06] <myownserver> I'm self-taught (too poor to go to college for it), so this is my way of learning things.
[08:06] <Ben64> myownserver: open up a terminal, test out the "host" command
[08:06] <Ben64> also, try "dig" and "nslookup"
[08:06] <dotblank> and whois
[08:06] <leaf-sheep> dotblank: Well, I'm trying to accomplish what Ben64 described recently.  Using hostnames instead of IP addresses.
[08:07] <Ben64> and then you'll never want to deal with dns ever again
[08:07] <toupeiro> myownserver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093
[08:07] <Ben64> terrible outdated system
[08:07] <darlek> Ben64, thanks, used gparted and found out that drive uses ext3
[08:07] <toupeiro> myownserver: good step-by-step in how to build a DNS server in ubuntu
[08:07] <zvacet> nmvicky : isn´t it combination of right ctrl + something (I forget exact combination)
[08:07] <Ben64> darlek: so it works now?
[08:08] <dotblank> leaf-sheep: well samba should have already fixed this
[08:08] <sequoia1> Hi everyone, sorry to interrupt. I am relatively new to Ubuntu, and setting up a localhost for local website editing/troubleshooting but am hitting road blocks getting my SQL passwords and databases set. Anyone with SQL troubleshooting skills able to help a willing-to-learn noob (very enthusiastic about Opensource and Ubuntu)? Please IM. I'm creating a website for a local artist/painter that needs exposure soon to help pay for
[08:08] <darlek> Ben64, not yet, I'm having gparted check the drive
[08:09] <darlek> Ben64, since the usb drive is'nt mounted that should be okay
[08:09] <Ben64> darlek: hmm, i'd rather use fsck
[08:09] <frost_> Hia, Anyone able to check this post out please, and see if they got any solution ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1175102&highlight=XFi
[08:09] <toupeiro> Im curious, has anyone in here been tasked with reporting on session idling in Linux?
[08:10] <patant> where can I get a ldap browser?
[08:10] <myownserver> Hey Ben64: If it's not too much trouble to ask, can you make a pastie of free DNS services?  I've had trouble finding them.
[08:10] <Knick> I'm in love with a beautiful distro, and that's allright
[08:10] <ALexia> frost_,  just post the gist of it here please
[08:10] <Ben64> myownserver: the problem is, what you want isn't a dns server
[08:10] <toupeiro> in other words:  if someone has been idle for 48 hours, it would trigger some sort of action, like an email or a pkill
[08:11] <frost_> ALexia: gist ?
[08:11] <b0red> how to export a var for use for all users who use bash?
[08:11] <dotblank> b0red: I think there is a bash rc file for that
[08:11] <Knick> myownserver are you looking for a dynamic DNS service (a domain name that follows your changing IP) or an actual free DNS service?
[08:11] <ALexia> frost_, the summary of the problem
[08:12] <b0red> dotblank, nop..
[08:12] <myownserver> Knick: Correct, that would be the most beneficial one.
[08:12] <Knick> myownserver heh, which one?
[08:12] <myownserver> Dynamic DNS
[08:12] <myownserver> One that allows me to change my IP.
[08:12] <Wazzzaaa> 1 process is slurping 95% CPU. IS there a way to see wat this certain process is exactly doing? Or get some more info than just top
[08:12] <myownserver> It doesn't have to be able to auto-update.
[08:12] <Ben64> myownserver: you could just buy your own domain, for $9 a year you can have iguessicannothazcheezeburger.com
[08:12] <ALexia> if anyone can help me with sound issues please pm me
[08:13] <ALexia> Wazzzaaa, what kinds of information would you like about the process
[08:13] <Knick> myownserver ok, there are many. I can recommend some, but it might be better for you just to google "dynamic dns service"
[08:13] <darlek> Ben64, gave me more data, as the fsck didn't run as noted earlier... here's the result http://pastebin.com/f40a34f7d
[08:13] <Knick> myownserver if you need help in setting it up later, just ask
[08:13] <frost_> I have a XFi Xtreeme gamer soundcard. The sound works flawlessly, but the microphone does not work unless I: Open hardwaredrivers, disable the drivers, reboot, then reenable the drivers in hardwaredrivers without reboot. that will make the mic work. any way to sort this ?
[08:13] <dotblank> Wazzzaaa: you should check /proc/(pid) for some info
[08:13] <ALexia> Wazzzaaa, you can open the system monitor in system/administration
[08:14] <poent> how can i prevent sound from playing out of my systems main speakers while headphones are plugged in?
[08:14] <toupeiro> myownserver:  There is another solution
[08:14] <toupeiro> myownserver: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cisco-Catalyst-2950-24-switch-24-ports_W0QQitemZ250484740505QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Hubs?hash=item3a520dd199&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
[08:14] <toupeiro> myownserver: buy one of those
[08:14] <Knick> Ah, the question (which I missed) is deeper than I assumed :)
[08:14] <dotblank> poent: depends on the card.. some sound cards have an option in the mixer called "headphones"
[08:14] <ALexia> Wazzzaaa, did that help?
[08:14] <myownserver> toupeiro: LOL, a switch?
[08:15] <toupeiro> toupeiro: not just any switch.  that runs a Cisco OS, and it can run its own internal DDNS
[08:15] <Ben64> darlek: try "sudo -p -f fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb1"
[08:15] <Knick> lol, overkill
[08:15] <Ben64> darlek: nvm
[08:15] <Ben64> darlek: try "sudo fsck.ext3 -p -f /dev/sdb1"
[08:15] <ALexia> poent, what does your audio setup look like?
[08:15] <Ben64> had them in the wrong order
[08:15] <dotblank> buying a cisco switch just for ddns is way overkill
[08:15] <toupeiro> 50 bucks, and easier to configure than setting up DDNS from scratch in linux
[08:15] <darlek> Ben64, thanks I'll try it
[08:15] <myownserver> LOL, I did mention I'm broke, right?  Meaning no money?
[08:16] <Knick> myownserver the best way to choose what DDNS service you want is to look at the update clients and find one you like/is easy to use.
[08:16] <ALexia> myownserver, probably not going to find a free ddns
[08:16] <Knick> myownserver my suggestion is free :)
[08:16] <frost_> ALexia: hehe. that didnt help much :)
[08:16] <Knick> ALexia uh, yes he/she will
[08:16] <Ben64> myownserver: get a domain for $9 a year
[08:16] <myownserver> I've got one.
[08:16] <Knick> ALexia I use about 5 different ones now for free
[08:16] <Ben64> thats like 2 cents a day
[08:17] <ALexia> Knick, seriously? i wasnt aware that free ddns services existed
[08:17] <Knick> he doesn't want a domain name, he wants a dynamic domain name that he can update with his IP when it changes
[08:17] <toupeiro> my bad 60 dollars
[08:17] <dotblank> wait why do you need ddns?
[08:17] <Ben64> myownserver: if you got one, then use it......
[08:17] <ALexia> Knick, thats really cool
[08:17] <sn0n> anyone else having connection problems to security.ubuntu.com for updates?
[08:17] <Knick> ALexia lol. Since forever
[08:17] <myownserver> Really, right now I'm curious to know of other good DDNS services and know more about BIND.
[08:17] <ALexia> Knick, well its probably because i havent ever needed one
[08:17] <ALexia> Knick, lol
[08:17] <toupeiro> 60 dollars gets you a 2950 switch, DDNS, and you learn about DNS and cisco IOS
[08:18] <Ben64> myownserver: whats the ip of your server?
[08:18] <Knick> myownserver heh, there are all about as good as each other. And hell, the free ones are free :)
[08:18] <ALexia> can someone help me figure out why alsamixer will not load
[08:18] <ALexia> the error is
[08:18] <b0red> how to export a var for use for all users who use bash?
[08:18] <toupeiro> your switch is also more of an appliance than a server
[08:18] <myownserver> Right now it's hosted elsewhere courtesy of a friend.  I can't afford my own internet connection and therefore I can't host my own server at the moment.
[08:18] <ALexia> alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[08:18] <Knick> myownserver BIND is a whole other ballgame. Although I did do what you seem to want to do. I had a dynamic DNS service that pointed to my box that was running BIND, that in turn updated a whole bunch of other IPs :)
[08:18] <Boohbah> myownserver: http://dyndns.com/
[08:19] <dotblank> b0red: /etc/enviroment
[08:19] <sn0n> anyone else having connection problems to security.ubuntu.com for updates?
[08:19] <oguncak> helloo friends. whatever i do, i cannot prevent pidgin open at startup. i tried sys>pref>startup progs... nothing nothing... whats hapening? can anyone help me?
[08:19] <Knick> b0red put it in the env
[08:19] <Ben64> myownserver: here you can use this subdomain - blah.meth-lab.biz
[08:19] <ALexia> sn0n, iam
[08:19] <Ben64> points to your ip
[08:19] <ALexia> sn0n, I am
[08:19] <b0red> thank you!
[08:19] <sn0n> ok, thank you.
[08:20] <b0red> but that didn't work either
[08:20] <myownserver> Ben64: This isn't my IP.
[08:20] <myownserver> LOL.
[08:20] <Ben64> yes it is
[08:20] <myownserver> I don't have router access, so I can't even forward the ports on it.
[08:20] <darlek> sn0n, yes
[08:20] <toupeiro> Sorry I kind of lost track on my own question.  :)  So nobodies ever been tasked to determine and report on idle session time in Linux?
[08:20] <darlek> sn0n, i figure give it a day
[08:20] <Ben64> doesn't matter, it will always be your ip
[08:20] <sn0n> ALexia, darlek - Thank you
[08:20] <jamil> sorry
[08:20] <ALexia> so does anyone have any ideas why alsamixer is being STUPID!! lol please try to help me
[08:20] <myownserver> It's my neighbor's internet (still trying to figure out who that is.
[08:21] <ALexia> sn0n, yw
[08:21] <Knick> myownserver lol, some wireless network action?
[08:21] <b0red> Knick, didn't work
[08:21] <dotblank> myownserver: you might be able to use upnp triggering
[08:21] <jamil> I have problm
[08:21] <darlek> Ben64, clearing oprphaned inode still running.  hope this works *fingers crossed*
[08:21] <jamil> sietting lx300
[08:21] <darlek> orphaned
[08:21] <ALexia> toupeiro, im not sure what your asking?
[08:21] <leaf-sheep> Ben64: If I want to ssh/ftp/etc using hostnames instead of local IP addresses, what am I looking for? BIND9? DNS?
[08:21] <jamil> help me
[08:21] <myownserver> Knick: Yeah, with a high-gain antenna.
[08:22] <poent> anyone have any idea on how to stop music from playing from my systems main speakers while headphones are plugged into the jack
[08:22] <ALexia> jamil, what kind of problem are you having?
[08:22] <Ben64> leaf-sheep: easiest way is modifying the hosts file
[08:22] <myownserver> Poor man's internet.  Thank goodness for apartment complexes
[08:22] <ALexia> poent, can i pm you
[08:22] <Knick> leaf-sheep DDNS if you have a dynamic IP, normal DNS if you have a static one
[08:22] <b0red> i'm trying to export PS1
[08:22] <b0red> how to export a var for use for all users who use bash?
[08:22] <toupeiro> Alexia: In other words, if someone logs into my linux server, tomorrow, and I see him logged in 2 weeks from now, I want to know if he has been idle that whole time, or if he has been active.
[08:22] <myownserver> And unsecured/WEP networks.
[08:22] <Knick> b0red did you use "export"?
[08:22] <leaf-sheep> Ben64, Knick: We're talking about local home network.  Nothing more.  IP changes over time with the router.
[08:23] <darlek> poent, I think the module is spkrs or something like that, so find it in lsmod.  I suppose you'd need a script to disable, re-enable it though
[08:23] <Ben64> leaf-sheep: make static ip
[08:23] <myownserver> WPA networks are killing me.
[08:23] <Knick> b0red use your .profile file and export the var
[08:23] <darlek> poent, check ubuntu forums / google for your PC brand and that module
[08:23] <ALexia> toupeiro, feel free to not tell me why but why?
[08:23] <frost_> I have a XFi Xtreeme gamer soundcard. The sound works flawlessly, but the microphone does not work unless I: Open hardwaredrivers, disable the drivers, reboot, then reenable the drivers in hardwaredrivers without reboot. that will make the mic work. any way to sort this ? Please give this question a minute. I've seen allot of people wonder about the same issue, and it would be a good thing to sort it out. shouldnt have to use this kind of solutions on
[08:23] <frost_>  modern system..
[08:23] <b0red> Knick, i want it lgobal to all users
[08:23] <Knick> myownserver lol. Dictionary attacks?
[08:24] <leaf-sheep> Ben64: I'm using a laptop.  You mean to make static IPS on the hardwares or via the router?
[08:24] <myownserver> Knick: None of them are ever active.
[08:24] <Ben64> leaf-sheep: router, if you want to go other places with your laptop ever
[08:24] <dotblank> frost_: Have you tried messing with alsamixer? it could be possible that the state of the sound card gets changed/reset by some program
[08:24] <ALexia> frost_, you could possibly make a script to run that would do that automatically but im not sure what a permanent fix would be
[08:24] <myownserver> Knick: I just don't even bother.  If it's not a WEP network, I leave it alone.
[08:25] <Knick> myownserver heh, you'd like living here. I'm surrounded by unsecured networks. I wouldn't join one though ...
[08:25] <myownserver> Over half of the ones I do get on haven't paid their bills.
[08:25] <dotblank> I would just goto my neighbor and say.. hey can I use your wirelless?
[08:25] <myownserver> Turns out I'm not the only poor one.
[08:25] <Knick> b0red then use your /etc/profile file
[08:25] <toupeiro> Alexia: resource control.  If someone started up a bunch of applications, then just left their connections open for weeks with the applications idling, but taking up memory, I would want to know.  Or for example, someone is logged in at the console, and I need to reboot the machine, it would be nice to know how long that console has been doing nothing so I can quickly determine if someone is there working or if it was a forgotten login.
[08:25] <DJNomad> can anyone help me set up evolution or thunderbird to get my hotmail and which one do you recommend?
[08:25] <frost_> ALexia: Yes I have messed around with alsamixer (more than I ever wanted to) this problem is not the same as the "alsamixermutesolution", and a script would probably not work since i have to reboot after disabling my drivers before enabling them again.
[08:26] <Ben64> people that go on my network end up with a "surprise" on their computer
[08:26] <b0red> Knick, local ones are overriding it
[08:26] <b0red> Knick, i'm trying to export PS1
[08:26] <Boohbah> toupeiro: ps, w
[08:26] <Knick> b0red export <your var name>=<your var value>
[08:26] <DJNomad> I have both cause I started out on xubuntu and upgraded to ubuntu
[08:26] <Andy80> hi guys...
[08:26] <dotblank> frost_: have you tried unloading the module from the kernel and re-loading it?
[08:26] <darlek> Ben64, thanks!  the fsck.ext3 command has fixed the problem and allowed me to mount the root on the usb drive.  Thanks so much
[08:26] <ALexia> frost_, well im sorry, i tried
[08:26] <toupeiro> boohbah: its a bit more complicated than that. :(
[08:26] <Ben64> darlek: np, glad it worked for you
[08:26] <frost_> dotblank: what do you mean ?
[08:26] <ALexia> toupeiro, give me just a second to think about this
[08:26] <Knick> b0red local ones *will* override it
[08:27] <toupeiro> just because an login is idle doesnt mean an application is
[08:27] <poent> yeah ALexia you can pm me
[08:27] <myownserver> To better explain why I was asking about BIND and DNS servers, I own the website http://www.myownserver.info , which is a personal web server how-to and the goal is keeping it free or extremely cheap.
[08:27] <toupeiro> this is always my delima
[08:27] <bullgard4> How is the number '15' called in the DEB program package name "linux-image-2.6.28-15-generic"?
[08:27] <dotblank> frost_: I dont think you should have to reboot just to re-initialize drivers
[08:27] <Andy80> please correct me if I'm wrong.... neither here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek nor here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek you wrote the damn f*** IRC channel/server where those classes are going to take place :P
[08:27] <unixhag> I want to get a list of available packages, like synaptic gives me, but from a terminal command. After browsing with less(1), I might want to see brief descriptions of a couple of packages. Do I really need a GUI for that??
[08:27] <frost_> dotblank: like restart alsa +
[08:27] <frost_> ?
[08:27] <Boohbah> toupeiro: use ps with the 'f' flag to see child processes of that user's login shell, including start and idle time
[08:27] <Knick> myownserver everything you want to do can be done. I did it for free for 5 or so years. Start reading ;)
[08:27] <leaf-sheep> unixhag: "aptitude search pidgin"
[08:28] <dotblank> frost_: have you done that? no I mean the actually kernel module. try lsmod and finding it
[08:28] <leaf-sheep> unixhag: When you want to read information on the package, "aptitude show pidgin"
[08:28] <Knick> myownserver BIND seems complicated, but the actual configuration the average DNS server uses is minimal
[08:28] <Knick> myownserver hell, ubuntu probably has a BIND GUI
[08:28] <unixhag> leaf-sheep: handy, thanks. How do I browse through, say, text editors?
[08:28] <myownserver> Knick: I've got a big thick book on BIND and DNS, I'm just trying to find if it's worth spending the time to learn and write about or if it's really irrelevant content for what my site is about.
[08:29] <frost_> dotblank: Im not at home now, but could you explain what it does ? i can probably predict the result depending on what you do
[08:29] <unixhag> s/how/can
[08:29] <Boohbah> myownserver: bind and dns are really simple
[08:29] <leaf-sheep> unixhag: What do you mean?
[08:29] <Knick> myownserver I have a big BIND book too. Never used it. Like I said, the config is usually very simple. O'Reilly needs to cover all configs :)
[08:29] <toupeiro> boohbah: in my experience, thats not always been accurate when I've used that for criteria.  for example, it shows gnome-do as being idle for 5 days for me, when I just used it 30 seconds ago.
[08:29] <unixhag> aptitude search spreadsheet ??
[08:29] <dotblank> frost_: well usually with a sound card it loads a module into the kernel and then all these other modules load dependant on it
[08:30] <myownserver> Yeah, O'Reilly is the book I have on it.
[08:30] <Knick> myownserver heh, how did I know?
[08:30] <Wazzzaaa> ALexia: srry, was away for 1 min. I now use top. And I am curious if/how I could get some more info about why the process is slurping so much CPU. I'll look into the /proc/(pid)
[08:30] <Knick> myownserver mostly by the confusion ;)
[08:30] <dotblank> frost_: I would just rmmod and inmod the module to re-insert the driver
[08:30] <myownserver> I've read a few chapters of it now and now I'm thinking it's way too much.
[08:30] <Boohbah> toupeiro: you are correct, ps only shows the start time
[08:30] <leaf-sheep> unixhag: Well, if you want to search for package (AND DESCRIPTION), you'd like to use "apt-cache search editor"
[08:30] <frost_> dotblank: would the effect be like rebooting ?
[08:30] <dotblank> insmod*
[08:30] <dotblank> frost_: pretty much
[08:30] <unixhag> leaf-sheep: fantastic, thanks very much
[08:30] <myownserver> That's why I ask what is it's practicality.
[08:31] <leaf-sheep> unixhag: Maybe this, "apt-cache search text | grep editor"
[08:31] <Knick> myownserver if I were motivated I'd dig up my notes on my BIND config. Maybe next time. But, believe me, it's fairly basic and a day of reading will tell you if you need it or not.
[08:31] <frost_> dotblank: Then it might work, and if that work, how would i build a script for it ?
[08:31] <toupeiro> boohbah: so I would almost need something that looks at processes, start times, sleep times, and CPU times
[08:31] <myownserver> If it's irrelevant for a personal web server, then there's other things I could write about that would be more beneficial to my readers.
[08:31] <Knick> myownserver my gut feeling is you don't
[08:31] <dotblank> frost_: btw im curious what version of ubuntu are you running because my bro has a usb X-FI and works perfectly out of box
[08:31] <toupeiro> boohbah: but I've been pretty unsuccessful thus far
[08:31] <DJNomad> nevermind on the email thing ,I found the answer,I was stumped when I couldn't installhotway in terminal,which is no longer needed
[08:31] <Boohbah> toupeiro: http://linuxshellaccount.blogspot.com/2009/03/finding-processs-idle-time-on-linux-and.html
[08:32] <joshstrobl> anyone know any good programming software for Linux that is similar to Window's Visual Basics? Meaning like I could design the actual program then work on the coding
[08:32] <Boohbah> joshstrobl: there is kdevelop if you like kde and qt
[08:32] <Knick> joshstrobl please, never mention VB on here again. Thank you.
[08:32] <unixhag> leaf-sheep: I didn't know about aptitude or apt-cache, but now I do I can find docs to fill in any missing details, thanks
[08:32] <frost_> dotblank: 9.04 KDE4.3, but the result is the same on gdm, and i have the creative drivers. which works very good. this problem occurs on other drivers aswell
[08:32] <joshstrobl> Knick> i will if I like
[08:32] <DigitalKiwi> what's the gtk one...
[08:32] <leaf-sheep> joshstrobl: Maybe Anjuta?
[08:32] <Knick> joshstrobl but, you can use any of the QT and (ugh) GTK+ libraries to do what I think you are asking
[08:33] <DigitalKiwi> the gui creator
[08:33] <frost_> dotblank: and i dont have a usb card.
[08:33] <Knick> joshstrobl VB isn't a programming language
[08:33] <Knick> it's an abomination
[08:33] <frost_> dotblank: could you please make me an example script for doing this ?
[08:33] <myownserver> Knick: The two ways I've seen it perhaps being beneficial is when using WordPressMU, in order for the users to have a subdomain blog like wordpress.com, you have to have a wildcard in the zone setting, which there's really no other way to do unless you have your own DNS server for that domain.
[08:33] <dotblank> frost are you running pulseaudio?
[08:33] <iskywalker> hi!
[08:33] <frost_> dotblank: ofc not
[08:34] <simon__> anyone know how to configure the nvidia x server, for a pctablet tc1100 as mine never works and crashes
[08:34] <iskywalker> i was wondering, if there is a way to start a process from a distance machine an pass it to the local
[08:34] <myownserver> Secondly would be multiple email accounts.  I still have yet to learn how to run a successful email server, which for now I just simply avoid.
[08:34] <Knick> myownserver you can do it, but you'll have a longer domain name, like "theirdomain.mydomain.DDNSdomain.com"
[08:34] <DigitalKiwi> glade for gtk gui
[08:34] <Knick> myownserver heh, the email server is the easiest part!
[08:34] <toupeiro> boohbah: good find.  I've been massaging a perl script that sort of follows the same logic but I haven't been as successful.  I'll play with this a bit.  I googled around for a few days on this and couldn't find anything this close.  thank you!
[08:34] <joshstrobl> "joshstrobl VB isn't a programming language" I didn't say it was a programming language I said it was a software
[08:35] <dotblank> frost_: can you meet me in #alsa
[08:35] <poent> whats the equivalent of device manager within ubuntu?
[08:35] <Knick> joshstrobl whatever. Good luck.
[08:35] <myownserver> Knick: The email server never would send emails.  I'm not really understanding of SMTP or POP3.
[08:35] <Knick> poent lol, "lspci -v"
[08:35] <frost_> omw
[08:35] <Knick> poent then "dmesg"
[08:35] <myownserver> Knick: I tinkered with Mercury Mail for several hours and it never did work out.
[08:35] <Knick> poent then "less /var/log/messages"
[08:36] <paul68> I run a 9.04 ubuntu server edition in virtual box I want to install the dhcp server package however I get the following error after entering sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server  Couldn't find the package what do I need to do to be able to install the dhcp server in virtualbox
[08:36] <Knick> myownserver hmm, I use postfix myself
[08:36] <Knick> myownserver with Squirrelmail for webmail for my users
[08:36] <myownserver> Since I didn't really know much about it, I decided to avoid it to avoid people sending me requests for technical help when I dn't understand it myself.
[08:37] <tuxwulf> Knick > Is squirrelmail easy to set up?
[08:37] <poent> lspci?
[08:37] <Knick> tuxwulf yes, but keep it updated and use the latest version
[08:37] <oguncak> hi friends. whatever i do, pidgin starts on start-up.. i tried sys>pref>startup progs, but pidgin was not there. but pidgin automatically starts at start-up!!!! what can i do???????
[08:37] <leaf-sheep> poent: lshw --> list hardwares.  "lshw -html > ~/Desktop/Hardware.html" will put everything you want to know about your hardware in HTML on Desktop.
[08:37] <myownserver> Is squirrelmail a php-based email system or does it use a mail server?
[08:37] <craCkpot> can anyone help with when grub attempts to load vista it gives error-13 (invalid or unsupported executable)?
[08:37] <Knick> poent open a terminal window and type "less lspci -v"
[08:37] <Knick> myownserver php
[08:38] <majuk> oguncak: Probably got saved in your session. Enable "save session at logout" and logout with nothing running, then disable it again.
[08:38] <tuxwulf> Knick > Like all packages - but why is that for squirrelomail so extra important ?
[08:38] <oguncak> ok.. i will do do. thanks.
[08:38] <Knick> tuxwulf there were earlier vulnerabilities that are still regularly exploited with automated tools
[08:39] <myownserver> Knick: can squirrelmail be ran on a paid hosting server?
[08:39] <ALexia> so does anyone have any ideas why alsamixer is being STUPID!! lol please try to help me
[08:39] <Knick> poent if you don't find what you want (I don't know what you are looking for) type "less dmesg" in a terminal window
[08:39] <ALexia> alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument is there error it gives
[08:39] <Knick> poent er, or even "dmesg|less" ... or hell, scroll :)
[08:39] <bigmahatma> hello how can I display the system information (CPU,linux kernel, ubuntu version,...) from the shell?
[08:40] <Knick> bigmahatma examine your /proc directory
[08:40] <craCkpot> http://pastebin.com/m5bfe3722 is my menu.lst from grub and fdisk -l
[08:40] <randy2009> good morning, a few hours ago my server couldn't connect through ssh with other servers. it could ping and connect through other ports, but not with ssh. In which logfile do i have to look to find more information? (i checked every log file in /var/log)
[08:40] <craCkpot> if anyone is available to help
[08:40] <tuxwulf> Knick > I see.. but isn't that a problem with all webmailers?
[08:40] <bigmahatma> Knick: great
[08:40] <bigmahatma> thanks
[08:41] <JNSamuel> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.27-14-generic_2.6.27-14.39_i386.deb
[08:41] <JNSamuel>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[08:41] <vadviktor> bigmahatma: is use sudo lshw for all hardware info
[08:41] <JNSamuel> well, that's never happened
[08:41] <poent> knick: i'm just looking for what soundcard i have installed in the system
[08:41] <ALexia> bigmahatma, uname -a
[08:41] <Knick> tuxwulf affected squirrelmail greatly because it was widely used. The others aren't subject to the amount of attack on those old vulnerabilities. Anyway, as you said, you keep it all updated anyway :)
[08:41] <Blackhold> hello
[08:41] <Blackhold> could someone give me some help please?
[08:41] <Knick> poent ok, then do the "lspci -v"
[08:41] <Knick> poent look for your soundcard
[08:41] <vadviktor> JNSamuel: I think ubuntu servers are having some high load because of new kernel updates available
[08:42] <craCkpot> anyone at all help with GRUB error 13 (invalid or unsupported executable) when trying to load Vista (fdisk and menu.lst @ http://pastebin.com/m5bfe3722)?
[08:42] <cdoublejj> does xubuntu have the same repositories as ubuntu does it run wine to i have an older laptop and i can't even seems to get it to install ubuntu 9.04 i think it is probably the laptop but, have been thinking of trying xubuntu
[08:42] <bleepbleep> guys
[08:42] <craCkpot> ubuntu boots fine, by the way
[08:42] <bleepbleep> need help with audio
[08:42] <tuxwulf> Knick > Thank you so much! Always better to get a 'real' person's opinion than to read it off a webpage...
[08:42] <bleepbleep> hp mini 1000
[08:42] <bleepbleep> no audio
[08:42] <Blackhold> I'm trying to mount dynamic samba shares using fstab and this mount at login
[08:42] <FloodBot3> bleepbleep: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <thomthom> Blackhold:  what your problem
[08:42] <poent> got it, thank you knick
[08:42] <leaf-sheep> poent: lshw -c sound
[08:42] <ALexia> cdoublejj, yes it has same repositories
[08:42] <mtraker> how many people use devede?
[08:42] <cdoublejj> sweet
[08:42] <Knick> tuxwulf heh, I know what you mean
[08:42] <Knick> poent my pleasure
[08:43] <ALexia> mtraker, i tried it once
[08:43] <Blackhold> thomthom: now we use that: mount.cifs //fbmfsu/home$/$user $path_usuario -o user=$user,password=$password,iocharset=utf8,uid=$user,gid=LNX_$user
[08:43] <myownserver> Knick: can I PM you something right quick?
[08:43] <Knick> myownserver sure
[08:43] <ALexia> mtraker, but dont use it regularly
[08:43] <JNSamuel> vadviktor: i doubt its the servers, all that must be choking the servers bandwidth
[08:43] <Blackhold> but this executes only executing an script, and user have to put his password
[08:43] <bleepbleep> how can i check if i got the latest alsa drivers?
[08:43] <craCkpot> is this thing on? lol
[08:43] <Knick> myownserver I don't cyber though
[08:43] <paul68> I run a 9.04 ubuntu server edition in virtual box I want to install the dhcp server package however I get the following error after entering sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server  Couldn't find the package what do I need to do to be able to install the dhcp server in virtualbox
[08:43] <thomthom> Blackhold:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/
[08:43] <ALexia> Has anyone else ever had problems with extremely low sound volume in ubuntu?
[08:43] <mtraker> Alexia I want make 2 videos and one directory with pictures. Is it posible insert the carpet with pictures?Ç
[08:43] <Daviey> paul68: try sudo apt-get update
[08:44] <Daviey> paul68: then sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server
[08:44] <vadviktor> JNSamuel: yes that's what I ment, sorry :)
[08:44] <mtraker> ALexia, th sounds it's ok
[08:44] <Daviey> paul68: I assume you have a working net connection inside your virtual machine
[08:44] <euphoric> hi there///
[08:44] <Blackhold> thomthom: thanks for the link, but the problem is that username and password, must be dynamic
[08:44] <Blackhold> how I could pass username (`whoami`) and password, at login?
[08:44] <ALexia> mtraker, can i pm you
[08:45] <thomthom> Blackhold:  oh, that is beyond my skill level
[08:45] <euphoric> help me pls...how i can install drivers for my video in xubuntu?
[08:45] <vadviktor> ALexia: yes, if I don't use my active sound system, I have very low sound volume on my heapphone
[08:45] <Gnea> euphoric: what video card?
[08:45] <ALexia> euphoric, do you have nvidia?
[08:45] <euphoric> yes
[08:45] <mtraker> I've Intel
[08:45] <chilli0> Where does epiphany save all temp files ?
[08:45] <euphoric> 6200
[08:45] <Gnea> !nvidia | euphoric
[08:45] <Blackhold> thomthom: thanks for the link
[08:45] <Blackhold> I'm gonna search from there
[08:46] <ALexia> mtraker, intel drivers should be installed at install what makes you say they arent?
[08:46] <Gnea> euphoric: you might also want to ask in #xubuntu if that link doesn't help
[08:46] <euphoric> fuck...only english?...
[08:46] <thomthom> Blackhold:  any time
[08:46] <Gnea> !language | euphoric
[08:46] <George21> where. Does a complete linux. Noon begi
[08:46] <George21> N
[08:46] <cdoublejj> any real short comes that xubuntu has compared to ubuntu
[08:46] <chilli0> Where does epiphany save all temp files ?
[08:46] <cdoublejj> ?
[08:46] <jamieleshaw> Hello, How do I make XChat automatically log me in.
[08:46] <Gnea> jamieleshaw: #xchat will know
[08:47] <purplenurple> chilli0, have you looked in /home/<username>/.epiphany ?
[08:47] <jamieleshaw> thanks
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <chilli0> purplenurple:  haven't but i will now.
[08:47] <purplenurple> chilli0, if not there most likely in /tmp/
[08:47] <craCkpot> alright then, anyone available to help with a GRUB/Vista issue?
[08:47] <toupeiro> boohbah: it will definitely need a lot of cleanup to work in ubuntu, but I think this might be usable :)
[08:48] <sharperguy> how do i find out which commands are sheduled using at?
[08:48] <piksi> http://pastebin.com/md35c388 <-- oh man does the update work smoothly or what
[08:48] <chilli0> purplenurple:  there is no .epiphany in home/username
[08:48] <mrrx> http://www.pastebin.ca/1534785 <-- umm... a disk is dying?
[08:48] <chilli0> And i cant see the stuff im looking for in /tmp
[08:48] <Phelix> can anyone help with openvpn?
[08:49] <craCkpot> anyone at all? are my messages getting through?
[08:50] <leaf-sheep> !grub | craCkpot
[08:50] <ALexia> to the person who asked about the devede
[08:51] <ALexia> im still looking up the answer
[08:51] <leaf-sheep> Knick: You said awhile ago "DDNS if you have a dynamic IP, normal DNS if you have a static one"  Would this be useful for sshing and local file transfer since it seems like going out of way to get hostnames instead of IP addresses -- or should I apply for regular DNS?
[08:51] <purplenurple> chilli0, I'm looking now ... but something you can do in the future is: aptitude install locate  .... then: updatedb ... then: locate epiphany
[08:52] <euphoric> but...are there any russian channels about ubuntu there?
[08:52] <chilli0> purplenurple:  i did the locate thing , there are heaps of files.
[08:52] <leaf-sheep> !ru | euphoric
[08:53] <purplenurple> chilli0, did you look in /tmp/
[08:53] <chilli0> purplenurple:  i sorta did. im not to sure what im looking for.
[08:54] <spo> what is a good dvd ripper and a good dvd burner program for ubuntu?
[08:54] <George21> is back track 4 it's own Linux distro or is it a program
[08:54] <ALexia> is the person who asked about devede still here?
[08:54] <ALexia> George21, I believe its a seperate distro
[08:54] <chilli0> spo: Dvd::rip is the one i use. its good imo.
[08:54] <craCkpot> none of what was posted pertains to my issue, grub is working fine in booting ubuntu, it just won't boot vista.  it gives error 13 (invalid or unsupported executable)
[08:54] <binarystar> does anyone know "earch mrtg per domains from one server"?
[08:54] <ALexia> George21, but could be wrong
[08:55] <purplenurple> chilli0 ... are you talking the game epiphany?
[08:55] <craCkpot> i have tried all of the steps i could find pertaining to the error, modifying menu.lst mostly
[08:55] <vadviktor> spo, avidemux, dvd::rip, brasero, gnome-baker
[08:55] <craCkpot> i get the same error every time
[08:55] <George21> what'S the best distro for a complete Linux noon
[08:55] <chilli0> purplenurple:  no the browser.
[08:55] <Knick> George21 he's right, it's a seperate distro
[08:55] <Knick> George21 ubuntu
[08:55] <craCkpot> fdisk -l and menu.lst contents are at http://pastebin.com/m5bfe3722
[08:56] <xim_> can anyone help me mount a partition on a image created by ddrescue?
[08:56] <vadviktor> George21: of course Ubuntu :)
[08:56] <George21> where do I learn
[08:56] <Knick> George21 here, from the massive amount of literature on the 'net, and by using it
[08:57] <ALexia> Knick, im not a he
[08:57] <Knick> George21 no matter what anyone tells you, get comfortable with the command line
[08:57] <vadviktor> George21: a lot of links are in the channel header
[08:57] <Knick> ALexia apologies
[08:57] <ALexia> Knick, lol its ok
[08:57] <xim_> george, just install it and start using it, then every time you have a problem you learn something
[08:57] <spo> what is a good dvd burner program
[08:57] <ALexia> craCkpot, im looking into the problem can i pm you
[08:57] <craCkpot> sure
[08:57] <xim_> george21 *
[08:58] <ALexia> spo, brasero is good
[08:58] <spo> thanks
[08:58] <craCkpot> i noticed when it boots ubuntu it boots from (hd0,0), which is technically my windows hdd, so perhaps a remap?
[08:58] <ALexia> spo, or k3b, k3b seems to work better sometimes than brasero
[08:58] <George21> K link too install on a USB flash drive?
[08:58] <Knick> George21 the reason Ubuntu is a good distro is that you'll get a lot of help here. Whereas on gentoo or slackware your mileage may vary lol
[08:59] <craCkpot> ubuntu is by far the most "noob-friendly" distro i have used
[08:59] <ALexia> George21, i would think slackware would be especially hard to have other help you
[08:59] <George21> that's good too know :)
[09:00] <craCkpot> i've used red hat 9, suse (many version), slackware, and now ubuntu, and ubuntu wins by a long shot
[09:00] <Jyxt> Knick: no the reason that ubuntu is a good distro is that most of the work is done for you
[09:00] <Jyxt> whereas gentoo etc you do alot of the work yourself
[09:00] <Knick> craCkpot always stick with the debian based distro!
[09:00] <Knick> Jyxt no, for me it's because it's debian based. Actually, I don't even use ubuntu, I use crunchbang :)
[09:00] <xim_> yeah ubuntu is pretty much ready to go out of the box, id say its as easy as a macintosh, you dont have to learn much to do most things, when you run into problems which everyone does, ask in here
[09:01] <craCkpot> so i'm thinking i need to remap my hdd's
[09:01] <purplenurple> depends on what your doing ... arch/freebsd are much more efficient on servers than ubuntu
[09:01] <purplenurple> or debian
[09:01] <Jyxt> ubuntu is easy to use, lots of neat gui's...gentoo on the other hand takes a bit of technical know how and alot of command line
[09:01] <DigitalKiwi> <3 arch
[09:01] <chaup> My 70+ parents use ubuntu :)
[09:01] <rapsli> i have some problems with converting cmyk to rgb
[09:02] <rapsli> colors are being slightly modified and I don't know how to prevend this
[09:02] <chaup> No brainer for them.
[09:02] <Knick> purplenurple I thought the discussion was on linux. I use FreeBSD for my servers, and OpenBSD for my firewalls. Do I get a cookie? ;)
[09:02] <purplenurple> chaup, same here ... cracks me up when people I know tell me it's hard ... i have a picture in my wallet for those occasions
[09:02] <rapsli> respect. if i look at the image on ubuntu it looks slightly different than on windows (only the colors)
[09:02] <ByOnLyMe> q
[09:02] <purplenurple> Knick, no ... because your a dick
[09:03] <bluegoon> OK here it goes, anyone know where i can find files with ALOT of data for practice data mining?
[09:03] <craCkpot> ALexia: i am going to try to remap my hdd's, to see if it will correct the issues.  i'll be right back in case you find anything.
[09:03] <thatsit> hello, anyone got PSI 0.13 ubuntu package?
[09:03] <chaup> They use skype to talk with me. and surf the net.
[09:04] <chaup> I put them to use windows first but just they can't handle it.
[09:04] <DigitalKiwi> Knick: i've generally seen better irc support in uh...a different channel, than #ubuntu, sooo many people/unanswered questions/no offense intended but wrong answers too
[09:04] <eMyller> can i 'upgrade' from my stable jaunty to karmic alpha 4?
[09:04] <eMyller> i just changed the "jaunty" references in my sources.list to "karmic" and it's now running a dist-upgrade. hope it goes ok.
[09:04] <DigitalKiwi> blind leading blind often
[09:05] <Flannel> eMyller: You can.  You should get details from #ubuntu+1 (probably the topic there)
[09:05] <chaup> I used to compile my packages. But with ubuntu it saves me a lot of time.
[09:05] <craCkpot> quick question when i set my BIOS a specific boot order other than the logical SATA-1, 2, etc. the order set is how GRUB sees the HDD order, right?
[09:06] <tuxwulf> chaup > How do you mean, "can't handle it"?
[09:06] <Knick> DigitalKiwi I'll tell you my views in PM if you like ;)
[09:06] <DigitalKiwi> if you wish
[09:06] <DigitalKiwi> i only have 116 buffers, one more won't hurt
[09:07] <craCkpot> okay time to test this remap, be right back.
[09:08] <eMyller> Flannel: can i do that in a terminal? i'm on kde and no update-manager is available
[09:09] <thatsit> any one?
[09:09] <randy2009> can someone tell me what it means when i find this in /var/log/secure: Connection closed by <ip> 20 times beneath each other
[09:09] <Flannel> eMyller: You can.  There is an update manager for KDE (maybe its integrated into adept?  I don't know).  Or you can use the update manager in the terminal.  But, #ubuntu+1 would be able to give you more details
[09:09] <binarystar> Don't each MRTG per IP from one server. my idea is using many VLANs and
[09:09] <binarystar> calculate traffic per VLAN. Do you know if this is possible?
[09:09] <binarystar>  does anyone know??
[09:11] <eMyller> Flannel: adept isn't used anymore in kubuntu, it's 'kpackagekit'. anyway, it's unavailable for me now. i already asked for that in #kubuntu+1 but got no response so far. :|
[09:12] <DrMrHorse> security.ubuntu.com a bit overloaded?
[09:12] <eMyller> Flannel: i just changed every "jaunty" match in my sources.list to "karmic". running a dist-upgrade now, it's downloading 1.4gb of data. hope i took the right way.
[09:12] <purplenurple> DrMrHorse, try using a different mirror
[09:12] <DrMrHorse> so its not just me. ty.
[09:13] <Flannel> eMyller: It'll work, yes.  Just make sure you have the proper metapackages.
[09:13] <spo> for ripping dvds , you guys use k9copy ... is that the only one that can rip encrypted dvds?
[09:13] <purplenurple> we'll I use us sources so I don't know .. depends on where you're at
[09:14] <craCkpot> ALexia: were you able to find anything? remapping the drives via device.map didn't work.
[09:14] <DigitalKiwi> spo: dvd::rip, acidrip, dvd95, depending on what you want...are all decent
[09:14] <DigitalKiwi> <3 k9copy
[09:14] <fuzzybunny> hey guys is anyone really good at troubleshooting networking problems for some reason my brother cannot connect to my machine until he pings me or until I add his MAC address into the arp table.
[09:14] <JarlG> Hello! Does anyone know of a good, working undervolting guide for Ubuntu 9.04 with an Intel Centrino Duo (T7200, I think)? Thanks!
[09:14] <eMyller> Flannel: metapackages? well, everything is being downloaded from there, i still have nothing here. dunno exactly what u're talking about
[09:15] <spo> digitalkiwi, i am going to use dvdrebuilder with wine , because it has superior encoder -- cce
[09:15] <DigitalKiwi> ok
[09:16] <DigitalKiwi> doubt you'll notice any difference with those other ones but whatever
[09:17] <eMyller> Flannel: anyway, thanks :)
[09:18] <craCkpot> guess i'm being ignored again...
[09:19] <tuxattack> is anyone else having problems with the update manager tonight
[09:19] <Brownout> tuxattack: security.ubuntu.com is hammered, try another mirror
[09:19] <eMyller> tuxattack: some servers are overloaded. use another mirror
[09:20] <Brownout> some of them don't have the upgraded kernels yet, I just tried nl and it has
[09:20] <tuxattack> okay i was just checking, one computer won't download anything and the other has installed the kernel 2 times
[09:21] <peterodactyl> hi
[09:21] <peterodactyl> can anyone help me with some username/password problems im having?
[09:22] <peterodactyl> i upgraded to hardy heron and when i restarted and went to log back in
[09:22] <tuxattack> whats the problem
[09:22] <linuxson25> Anyone else having problems updating from Ubuntu reps?
[09:22] <peterodactyl> ubuntu wont recognise my username or password
[09:22] <tuxattack> rep its a server issue
[09:22] <peterodactyl> so ive had to log in with a live cd to try to figure the problem out
[09:22] <DigitalKiwi> linuxson25: yes, use a different mirror
[09:23] <huuh> can someone advice flash bootable linux with a lot of software ( + compiz/beryl/emerald/googleearth etc) ?
[09:23] <linuxson25> DigitalKiwi: Which one could I use?
[09:23] <tuxattack> do you have cap lock on or are you sure youre hitting the right keys
[09:23] <peterodactyl> caps lock isnt on
[09:23] <peterodactyl> and i know im hitting the right keys
[09:23] <peterodactyl> i tried about 50 times
[09:23] <leaf-sheep> 50 Times? Wow.
[09:24] <peterodactyl> maybe a bit of hyperbole
[09:24] <peterodactyl> but i tried a damn sight more than once
[09:24] <spo> && works similar as ";" ?
[09:24] <peterodactyl> ?
[09:25] <leaf-sheep> && execute the next command right away where ; will await until the first command are completed.
[09:25] <tuxattack> you didn't change your usrname and pssword in root messing around in the terminal
[09:25] <linuxson25> Someone maybe give me the URL to a new update mirror for Ubuntu?
[09:25] <peterodactyl> i havent done anything in the terminal
[09:25] <peterodactyl> just let package manager upgrade me
[09:25] <peterodactyl> and when it requested i restart
[09:25] <peterodactyl> i did
[09:26] <peterodactyl> and then was stuck
[09:26] <peterodactyl> at that irritatingly neutral screen
[09:26] <tuxattack> what did you upgrade from
[09:26] <peterodactyl> 7.10
[09:26] <peterodactyl> gutsy gibbon or whatever
[09:26] <tuxattack> to 8.10
[09:26] <peterodactyl> yeah
[09:27] <tuxattack> not sure
[09:28] <tuxattack> if you are going with 8.10 i would almost recommend 9.04 instead anyway
[09:28] <tuxattack> so download and do a clean install
[09:28] <peterodactyl> im on a live cd
[09:28] <peterodactyl> so i cant
[09:28] <linuxson25> Anyone know of the top of their heads the url for another upgrade mirror.  Usually I this via the network manager, but I'm unable to do it now. When I open the "manual" configuration, the Unlock button is disabled. Any ideas?
[09:31] <ALexia> ghostknife, i just saw this posted in the ubuntu brainstorm site a day ago
[09:31] <ALexia> ghostknife, let me look it up and ill let you know the fix
[09:32] <linuxson25> New URL for update mirror???
[09:33] <ALexia> ghostknife, you need to install the vpn protocols first
[09:33] <cousin_mario> hello
[09:33] <ALexia> there working on a way to make that more obvious in future releases but for now the fix is to manually add the protocols before setting up your vpn
[09:33]  * cousin_mario just upgraded the kernel, but /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr is still set to 0
[09:33] <ghostknife> ALexia: but the Unlock button is disabled. I can't even reconfigure anything
[09:34] <ghostknife> ALexia: and I have the PPTP stuff installed. It used to work before
[09:34] <ALexia> ghostknife, does this sound like the problem your having? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/20820/
[09:34] <ALexia> ghostknife, pm me and let me know
[09:35] <Liquidity_C> anyone else having trouble connecting to security.ubuntu.com ( <IP_ADDRESS> ) ??
[09:35] <DigitalKiwi> Liquidity_C: yes, use a different mirror
[09:35] <Liquidity_C> DigitalKiwi, know any good mirror?
[09:35] <poent> okay so my video driver just ate itself. I can see the screen refreshing itself while moving windows and i am unable to open the ati control center. Any thoughts on how to fix it?
[09:35] <DigitalKiwi> nope Liquidity_C
[09:36] <Liquidity_C> DigitalKiwi, can't I just wait and assume that it gets fixed in time?
[09:36] <DigitalKiwi> probably
[09:36] <linuxson25> Anyone know of any good mirrors to update from?
[09:36] <DigitalKiwi> is there some pressing update you need or installing something?
[09:36] <Liquidity_C> DigitalKiwi, not the first time this happens and it usually sorts itself in time
[09:36] <DigitalKiwi> apparently there's a new kernel and it's stressing the server or something
[09:37] <Liquidity_C> DigitalKiwi,  no just the recomended latest headers and generic kernel stuff
[09:37] <tuxattack> poent i would driver uninstalling it and reinstalling it
[09:37] <tuxattack> i can't type lol unistall the driver then reinstall
[09:38] <bishopek> Hello! Does anyone know how to check the WWN of my FC card with qla2xxx driver?
[09:38] <tuxattack> ATI used to be the best at linux support but I've had better luck with nvidia lately
[09:38] <ALexia> ghostknife, did you look at that url?
[09:40] <linuxson25> Yeah, been having the same problem with the mirror. Saw its got new kernel headers in the update
[09:40] <blip-> wasn't there some package that automatically pulled in all the requirements for a lamp stack on 8.10 ?
[09:40] <hawaiihim> hello
[09:40] <linuxson25> Need that, cause I had problems with my newest kernel, ended up deleting it. So I need to update
[09:41] <linuxson25> This going to be sorted soon?
[09:41] <blip-> boo
[09:42] <Liquidity_C> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors <--- for those who can't wait for the ubuntu mirror to get back up!
[09:42] <hawaiihim> I have a peculiar question about network.  When can I go for assistance?
[09:42] <linuxson25> Thanx Liquidity_C!! Appreciate
[09:43] <Liquidity_C> linuxson25, any time
[09:43] <blip-> hawaiihim, maybe here or in #networking
[09:43] <hawaiihim> its on ubuntu
[09:43] <vld> where is keyboard indicator kde 4.3???
[09:44] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, go ahead, just ask and we will se what happens :-)
[09:44] <blip-> there's a 4.3 now ?
[09:44] <vld> yes
[09:45] <blip-> nice.  I tried 4.1 and then 4.2... but eventually I just couldn't cope with not having the speed of navigation I wanted... so switched over to xfce
[09:45] <blip-> the plasmoids thing is just a mess.  nice, but so messy
[09:47] <hawaiihim> thank you.  (I am using Ubuntu 9.04)  Recently I have not been able to access the internet in ubuntu... yet I can access it via XP running in virtualbox.  That is how I am talking to you now, via a virtual machine.
[09:48] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, wireless or wire?
[09:48] <hawaiihim> wire
[09:48] <Boohbah> hawaiihim: what did you change to break it?
[09:48] <L3dPlatedLinux> how could i find if something else ( left over config files or something is blocking a port) ?
[09:48] <hawaiihim> nothing to my knowledge
[09:48] <Boohbah> L3dPlatedLinux: what?
[09:49] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, unless you have not already, match the network settings on ubuntu to the settings in the VirtBox. Not uncommon to miss som minor thing
[09:50] <L3dPlatedLinux> idk I am having trouble with port 21 and nothing is to what i can find is blocking it but no go now with that said i have port 20 and 21 forwarded to the ftp in question
[09:51] <Silurian> ok i have kubuntu installed on a pc of mine and now i would like to put ubuntu server on instead the problem is the cd won't boot any ideas]
[09:51] <QuantumKaos> hi guys, how do i find out what wireless card driver i have installed?
[09:51] <hawaiihim> How does one go about doing that
[09:52] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, just compare the details on the VirtBox (ip, mask, gateway etc.) to the settings on your ubuntu machine
[09:53] <Liquidity_C> QuantumKaos, System > Administration > hardwaredrivers
[09:55] <hawaiihim> hmmm, according to my machine I do not have eth0
[09:55] <Liquidity_C> Silurian, check the boot order on your machine, usually by pressing F12 or something at bootup
[09:56] <Silurian> i did check that and cdrom is first
[09:56] <Silurian> is there a way to start the install from inside kubuntu
[09:56] <spo> there are many dvd rippers, but k9copy is the onyl one that can rip encrypted dvds, right?
[09:56] <Liquidity_C> Silurian, bad cd? does other cd's work?
[09:56] <ALexia> spo thats not ture
[09:56] <ALexia> spo thats not true
[09:56] <spo> alexia, then what else can
[09:57] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, what? where did you find that?
[09:57] <Silurian> yeah they do
[09:57] <Silurian> but this is the second one for server i have made
[09:57] <Liquidity_C> Silurian, try making a new cd first, burn it slowly, sounds like something weird with the cd to me from here
[09:57] <Silurian> could be
[09:57] <Silurian> now i need to go buy another cd
[09:57] <Silurian> lol
[09:58] <Liquidity_C> Silurian, I fought with my 9.04 cd for two hours, then I made a new one burning it at low speed and it ran like a charm
[09:58] <hawaiihim> on the taskbar there is the networking icon... when I click on that I can look at my connections.  I used to eth0 but no longer
[09:58] <Silurian> what speed you recommend
[09:58] <ALexia> what would the command gpasswd -a random audio"   do?
[09:58] <Silurian> lowest?
[09:58] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, from the same menu select 'edit connections'
[09:59] <hawaiihim> yes
[09:59] <llutz> ALexia: "man gpasswd" tells you
[09:59] <Liquidity_C> Silurian, depends on the burner, better safe then sorry though, i often use 24x for important install cd's
[09:59] <ALexia> llutz, i know im just being lazy i didnt want to read through the manual
[09:59] <ALexia> llutz, lol
[09:59] <hawaiihim> I have Auto vboxnet0....
[10:00] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, under the wired tab, what is listed?
[10:00] <hawaiihim> just the vbox
[10:00] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, that is why, your Vbox is occupying your connection then
[10:00] <Silurian> question is 16x writing faster then 24x
[10:00] <ALexia> Silurian, nope
[10:00] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, add a second one and set it up with you ISP settings and see what happens
[10:01] <Silurian> ok cool
[10:01] <Silurian> cause 16 is the fastest i can write
[10:01] <Silurian> so i'll bump it down to 8x
[10:02] <Liquidity_C> Silurian, if your burner max speed is 16x you might want to go lower to be safe, but speed does not equal error, the risk just gets a bit higher
[10:02] <hawaiihim> when I go to apply the new connection... it disappears from the wired box
[10:02] <Silurian> lol i just realised
[10:02] <Silurian> then dvd i just put in is 16x
[10:02] <Silurian> i'll recheck when i put a cd in
[10:03] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, hehe, that is because your system only wants one machine per eth-card
[10:03] <hawaiihim> hmmm... but it worked without fail for about a year this way
[10:03] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, when you fired up an ubuntu connection now it killed the VBox connection I guess... I never used VBox so I am no expert, that is just my guess
[10:04] <hawaiihim> Thank you for you time.  I will reinstall the OS
[10:04] <Oli``> Got a strange problem with my Acer Revo... When I hold down a keyboard key, the mouse won't move. I let go of the key and it starts working again... Any ideas?
[10:05] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, it is weird... try googling your problem and see what others have to say, I might not be the best mentor since I never used vbox, but I really do think that the connections are interferring with each other, maybe some new security update came that did not like how it was working.
[10:05] <hawaiihim> I tried... but this problem, unfortunately seems unique
[10:05] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, no problem.
[10:06] <hawaiihim> thanks for your time!
[10:06] <Liquidity_C> hawaiihim, ok, sorry I could not be of more assistance
[10:06] <hawaiihim> Once again, thank you. good night!
[10:07] <ezekiel_> Liquidity_C: Hi. Tried using that mirror you supplied just now, but the accept buttons stays grayed out in Synaptic. URL correct?
[10:07] <karme> ciao
[10:09] <zruty> Did everybody see that...?
[10:09] <ALexia> Wow its actually quiet in here
[10:10] <indus> hi
[10:10] <ALexia> Hi indus
[10:10] <thatsit> hello
[10:10] <ezekiel_> Still looking for a new update mirror.... :)
[10:10] <karme> Hi
[10:10] <thatsit> how are you people
[10:11] <Dextorion> hungry
[10:11] <ezekiel_> Helllloooooo..........??
[10:11] <indus> yes
[10:11] <indus> ezekiel_: whats the problem
[10:11] <thatsit> eat something then ;]
[10:11] <ezekiel_> Anyone?
[10:12] <Liquidity_C> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors <--- for those who can't wait for the ubuntu mirror to get back up!
[10:12] <ezekiel_> Hi indus
[10:12] <indus> hi tell me whats uyour questiton
[10:13] <Liquidity_C> ezekiel_, there you go :-)
[10:13] <ezekiel_> I got an update mirror URL from Liquidity_C just now, cause it seems the current local one is timing out
[10:13] <ezekiel_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[10:13] <bullgard4> How is the number '15' called in the DEB program package name "linux-image-2.6.28-15-generic"? Is this the 'distribution patch level'?
[10:13] <ezekiel_> But Synaptic doesnt wanna accept it....accept button stays grayed out for some or other reason
[10:14] <QuantumKaos> hi guys, how do i find out what wireless card driver i have installed?
[10:14] <ezekiel_> Its the same one Liquidity_C
[10:14] <ezekiel_> Doesnt wanna accept
[10:14] <ezekiel_> Or maybe I am just doing it wrong? lol
[10:14] <indus> ezekiel_: you mean,a repository? is it down?
[10:15] <indus> ezekiel_: so did u run a 'check for best server' from software sources?
[10:15] <ezekiel_> But on the third party software tab, where you specify urls, try adding, doesnt wanna accept
[10:15] <ezekiel_> Was just wondering if it was because the URL was maybe incorrect?
[10:15] <Silurian> Liquidity_C found the prob it seems that the ide jumper for the cd rom was loose lol think all the cd's were fine
[10:16] <ezekiel_> Any other way I can manually add that url?
[10:16] <ezekiel_> Will try that indus
[10:16] <Silurian> now for the next question
[10:17] <Silurian> the latest ubuntu server
[10:17] <Silurian> does it come with the latest lampp
[10:17] <indus> ezekiel_: u tried the third party updates tab to add this url?
[10:17] <ezekiel_> Yip
[10:18] <Liquidity_C> Silurian, ah, nice
[10:18] <ezekiel_> Where do you check for best server? Dont see a radio button or dial anywhere
[10:18] <X-Seti> hello, I have a bug I think after trying to plug in any kind of USB device, '[202758.377592] vmap allocation failed: use vmalloc=<size> to increase size, my google searches are taking me to redhet or bug reports that seem unhelpful, any ideas..
[10:18] <indus> ezekiel_: yes
[10:18] <X-Seti> using command line dmesg, I seem to get this no matter what?
[10:19] <indus> ezekiel_: in software sources,click on 'download from' and select other
[10:19] <indus> ezekiel_: i use main server usually,its latest
[10:19] <Liquidity_C> ezekiel_, most of the third party mirrors are on a delay compared to the main ones thus you might not be able to get the latest updates on those servers, to find the best one for you choose one in your country or close to it with the least delay.
[10:19] <mslmi> bonjour
[10:20] <Liquidity_C> ezekiel_, plan B is just to wait until the main one kicks back on wich most of us are doing I think
[10:20] <dora> hi. i upgraded from 6.04 to 9.04 (step by step). now, I have network manager, but ubuntu still uses the interfaces file to set the network. both interfaces (wired and wireless) are not listed in thetwotk manager. how do i make the network manager to take control over the interfaces?
[10:20] <ezekiel_> Ah, ok :)
[10:20] <ezekiel_> Will do that, thanx :)
[10:21] <indus> X-Seti: the usb port might be bad
[10:21] <ezekiel_> And yeah....UBUNTU KICKS @#S!!
[10:21] <indus> X-Seti: try plug it in back of case
[10:21] <Silurian> ok on install the partition disks should i use guided use entire disk or guided use entire disk and set up a VLM
[10:21] <X-Seti> it does it on all, plus I have the same distro on my laptop where the printer comes up with the same
[10:22] <mslmi> good morning every body! eny one from Tunisia here?
[10:22] <X-Seti> 9.04
[10:22] <indus> X-Seti: same error in all distros?
[10:22] <X-Seti> just where I have 9.04 installed
[10:22] <delicowa> what's it with tunusia this mourning
[10:22] <X-Seti> i have 3 comps with it
[10:22] <mslmi> wht?
[10:22] <indus> X-Seti: this error only pops up in 9.04?
[10:22] <NeXstaR> how to make thunar my default file manager in gnome and after restart to display icons on desktop ?
[10:23] <X-Seti> yep
[10:23] <indus> X-Seti: bug probably, but does the usb drive work ok?
[10:23] <X-Seti> i noticed it today, trying to get the printer connect on the laptop, but ive been trying to get the novat usb stick to work on this one with the same message
[10:24] <indus> X-Seti: no idea what this is
[10:24] <indus> X-Seti: you could ask on launchpad
[10:24] <delicowa> Hi I wanna setup a printer on my ubuntu computer and I don't have physical access to the printer now cos I'm in the office is there any other way I can setup the printer without knowing the printers uri
[10:25] <X-Seti> well i am beginning to like 9.04. only just updated, i dont wanna be going back to 8.04
[10:25] <delicowa> Hi I wanna setup a printer on my ubuntu computer and I don't have physical access to the printer now cos I'm in the office is there any other way I can setup the printer without knowing the printers uri
[10:25] <X-Seti> lucky I did do all the comps here/
[10:25] <NeXstaR> how to make thunar my default file manager in gnome and after restart to display icons on desktop ?
[10:25] <umar> i messed up my sudo command!
[10:25] <w_a_n_d_> Hi all, I just bought a VPS with Ubuntu x64 installed on it but I think the sources.list is all out of wack.  And I can't apt-get update or apt-get install anything without it complaining about 404 Not Found....   can someone please see my paste http://bcas.tv/paste/results/rETuLP27.html
[10:25] <ghostknife> Anyone have an idea why I cn't use network manager. The unlock button is disabled.
[10:25] <umar> i did sudo chown -R root:umar /usr/bin and now i cant sudo!
[10:26] <X-Seti> indus, do there have a server or irc?
[10:26] <X-Seti> ive never posting anything outside ubuntu forums
[10:26] <umar> i entered recovery mode and changed /usr/bin/sudo's ownership to root:root and then rebooted, byt still cannot sudo
[10:26] <indus> X-Seti: ? what?
[10:26] <umar> what else shouldi do to make sudo work?
[10:26] <delicowa> it means the listed directories you are trying to update from don't exist
[10:26] <leaf-sheep> w_a_n_d_: Try different mirror or wait later. http://security.ubuntu.com is stressing out from heavy hits on kernel updates.
[10:27] <eltese> How do I bring up another server window in pigdin ? :P
[10:27] <indus> X-Seti: i didnt get u
[10:27] <leaf-sheep> w_a_n_d_: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://security.ubuntu.com/
[10:28] <majuk> eltese: For IRC you mean?
[10:28] <majuk> eltese: Accounts->Manage accounts and add a new IRC account on the new server
[10:28] <eltese> majuk: ah ok :) Ty
[10:28] <majuk> eltese: You're welcome
[10:28] <X-Seti> indus, np, I didnt relise that launchpad was part on ubuntu forums
[10:29] <indus> !launchpad | X-Seti
[10:29] <gsnedders> The clock panel can show the temperature for the current location in the panel itself, but in the drop-down view it doesn't show temperature for any other location. Any way to get temp. for other locations apart from the home location?
[10:29] <DrClouseau> Hi people, new to linux and ubuntu.. wick twitter client would you recommend for me?
[10:29] <majuk> ^^ ditto
[10:29] <umar> did it thru su!
[10:29] <leaf-sheep> gsnedders: I generally "set home" to see the temperature for other location then I switch "home"
[10:29] <majuk> DrClouseau: I like Tweetdeck, supposedly it and Adobe Air runs in Linux
[10:30] <QuantumKaos> hi guys, i want to switch to ubuntu (im a kubuntu user) is there a procedure to follow? i dont want to do the "migration" but totally format the system and re-install ubuntu on it, is there anything i should no about it? like particular bios settings or should i "prepare" my machine for it before? or i dunno
[10:30] <majuk> DrClouseau: But I can't confirm or deny that, haven't tried it yet, giving my social media addiction a rest for a few days.
[10:30] <X-Seti> ok, thankyou.. registering on their now
[10:30] <indus> QuantumKaos: well,use an ubuntu cd for that
[10:30] <Abhinav11> I want to add Ubuntu hardy and install package using this ? but what are the software resource?
[10:30] <DrClouseau> ok, thanks
[10:30] <DrClouseau> i will look it up
[10:30] <poent> QuantumKaos: The only thing you'de need to do in the bios would be to set it to boot from a disc after burning the ubuntu cd
[10:31] <majuk> DrClouseau: Tweetdeck is QUITE powerful. It's one of the older interfaces.
[10:31] <Alexia> QuantumKaos, if you have Kubuntu installed now you shouldnt need to change anything
[10:31] <syntax> how do you install the new konversation on ubuntu if you got the old one
[10:31] <indus> X-Seti: the forums are great too,but in launchpad what is interesting is that you can file a bug, and the bug people will reassign it as a question if they think its a question :) works for me
[10:31] <QuantumKaos> yeah i no, but i want to, just feel like my machine needs a deep clean up after all
[10:32] <indus> X-Seti: of course you can directly ask a question too u know
[10:32] <indus> poent: good point
[10:32] <Alexia> QuantumKaos, no i just meant as far as computer settings(bios,etc)
[10:32] <majuk> QuantumKaos: The difference between X/K/Ubuntu is largely the window manager (XFCE, KDE and Gnome, respectively)
[10:32] <indus> Abhinav11: hardy sources dont exist now
[10:32] <ezekiel_> Hmmmmmm......I think my nick password and email address just showed up in the irc chat?
[10:32] <majuk> QuantumKaos: Everything else, all the way down to your kernel, is gonna be pretty similar.
[10:32] <ezekiel_> Anyone else see it?
[10:33] <majuk> ezekiel_: Negative
[10:33] <QuantumKaos> ok so it doesnt seem i have to make big changes
[10:33] <Alexia> ezekiel_, nope you better try it again LOL
[10:33] <Abhinav11> indus: then how can cross compile gstreamer using mingw
[10:33] <majuk> QuantumKaos: I would wager no changes at all.
[10:33] <indus> Abhinav11: ok iam a noob to compiling
[10:33] <QuantumKaos> i read about a "wum" installation or something like that, which is supposed to make ur ubuntu as best as it could be, i might be wrong though
[10:33] <Koken> lol, this is the biggest channel in all of freenode
[10:33] <indus> Abhinav11: what are you trying to do
[10:33] <Alexia> QuantumKaos, you will like gnome, i think its a better window manager overall than kde
[10:33] <majuk> QuantumKaos: Unfamiliar.
[10:33] <indus> QuantumKaos: there is nothing like 'wum'
[10:33] <minimec> QuantumKaos: You basically have to install the ubuntu-desktop package. No need to do a clean install.
[10:34] <Alexia> QuantumKaos, but obviously not everyone would agree with me
[10:34] <Koken> gnome is more stable than kde, thats fer sure
[10:34] <majuk> QuantumKaos: Pffft, XFCE > everything
[10:34] <Abhinav11> indus: I want to program a recorder for windows using gstreamer
[10:34] <majuk> :P
[10:34] <Koken> kde seems kinda "unfinished" for me
[10:34] <indus> Abhinav11: ok
[10:34] <indus> cool
[10:34] <QuantumKaos> alright
[10:34] <Alexia> Koken, me too and kde 4.3 feels like a "worse" version of vista
[10:34] <poent> wubi maybe? thats a really simple way to set up a dual boot with ubuntu from windows?
[10:34] <QuantumKaos> yes!
[10:34] <Koken> heh
[10:34] <QuantumKaos> wubi!
[10:34] <QuantumKaos> ok, so nothing i need, i was wrong :D
[10:35] <Koken> well, hopefully, future releases of kde will be stabler, you know
[10:35] <poent> lol yeah
[10:35] <Abhinav11> I tried to install etch but it giving some error
[10:35] <indus> QuantumKaos: wubi hmm, thats not any better than a real install
[10:35] <QuantumKaos> no no i got it i got it
[10:35] <Alexia> majuk, i like xfce too, but gnome is better for noobs
[10:35] <Koken> things just dont work the way they should, it feels like
[10:35] <indus> Abhinav11: u want to install ubuntu now?
[10:35] <Koken> oh hey, xfce is cool 2
[10:35] <majuk> Alexia: Pffft, noobs, who needs 'em. :P
[10:35] <Koken> lol
[10:35] <lesshaste> mounting a samba file system is giving me problems.. if I use mount -t cifs it sort of works but I get CIFS VFS: Send error in SETFSUnixInfo = -5, IFS VFS: Negotiating Unix capabilities with the server failed.  Consider mounting with the Unix Extensions disabled , if problems are found, by specifying the nounix mount option
[10:35] <lesshaste> if I mount with nounix I have the odd situation where apps can't overwrite existing files at times
[10:35] <Abhinav11> no I have already
[10:35] <Alexia> Koken, yep hopefully plasmoids is just a terrible idea
[10:35] <poent> bleh..samba
[10:35] <Alexia> majuk, lol
[10:36] <indus> Abhinav11: so u have problems compiling somethings
[10:36] <QuantumKaos> so, during the new install, id like to make different partitions on my hard disk, one for home and one for the filesys, will i be able to just using the ubuntu install cd or will i need to use gparted?
[10:36] <majuk> Alexia: If I ever figure a way to run Compiz on top of Fluxbox, I'm gonna lose my mind with joy.
[10:36] <Alexia> majuk, yah that would definitely be amazing
[10:36] <indus> QuantumKaos: live cd comes withgparted
[10:36] <Abhinav11> indus: yah I am getting problem with cross compiling
[10:36] <Alexia> majuk, somebody should work on that =)
[10:36] <Koken> you know, i just got here, so i dont know what these guys are talking about (compiling something) but i would try to help if i knew what it was
[10:37] <indus> QuantumKaos: just select manual install option,then make the partitions
[10:37] <majuk> Alexia: lol, I've been wanting a project, but I think I'd need to be able to code ____ that much first.
[10:37] <Koken> hey
[10:37] <QuantumKaos> im not gonna use livecd, ill use the regular one
[10:37] <Koken> speaking of partitioning
[10:37] <indus> Abhinav11: sorry dont know this
[10:37] <indus> QuantumKaos: whats a regular one?
[10:37] <Abhinav11> indus: oh :(
[10:37] <Koken> i recommend you use gparted to edit your partitions before installing, because gparted is really easy to use
[10:37] <QuantumKaos> not the live one :D
[10:37] <indus> Abhinav11: whats eht error btw
[10:38] <QuantumKaos> so im not gonna be able to make partitions just with the install cd?
[10:38] <QuantumKaos> thatz what ur saying?
[10:38] <indus> Abhinav11: just make sure you have the package build essential installed before any compiling
[10:38] <Koken> no
[10:38] <majuk> QuantumKaos: If you're nuking the whole disc anyway, it won't matter.
[10:38] <Koken> you can make partitions with just the ubuntu cd
[10:38] <Silurian> ok so the latest ubuntu server has the latest lamp hey
[10:38] <indus> QuantumKaos: you mean you have the alternate cd
[10:38] <indus> QuantumKaos: of course you can
[10:38] <Koken> in system > administration
[10:38] <Silurian> lampp
[10:38] <Koken> there is the partition editor
[10:38] <Koken> use it :P
[10:38] <Kingsy101> can someone help me? for some reason when I am using my PC my mouse just suddenly stops working for a few seconds and comes back to life.. when I have spotify running for example when it happens the music skips for a couple of seconds and then comes back.. it happens quite often.. anyone seen this before ?
[10:39] <Alexia> majuk, or maybe we could just raise money to pay a developer
[10:39] <QuantumKaos> indus: ah ok, there's a partition editor during the install (not from the live cd) right?
[10:39] <indus> Kingsy101: wireless mouse?
[10:39] <Koken> i guess your computer is freezing up or something
[10:39] <Kingsy101> indus - no USB
[10:39] <Koken> if your music starts skipping
[10:39] <indus> QuantumKaos: of course, all of them have it
[10:39] <Koken> maybe your computers slow
[10:39] <majuk> Alexia: lol, and I'm unemployed. Any MORE of my shortcomings you'd like to out tonight?! :P
[10:39] <Koken> i dunno
[10:39] <indus> Kingsy101: hmm music skips? what is this spotify application?
[10:39] <Alexia> majuk, wow i pulled that out of you like "magic" lol
[10:39] <majuk> ROFL
[10:40] <Sarge_TJ> Hi! How can set ubuntu to use metacity as default instead of compiz?
[10:40] <Abhinav11> indus: for that I have to use to hardy, currently doing the same
[10:40] <QuantumKaos> indus: ok
[10:40] <Kingsy101> indus - its just a free music application running under WINE
[10:40] <Koken> why is this the biggest room on the entire freenode network?
[10:40] <indus> Abhinav11: use hardy for what?
[10:40] <delicowa> #ubuntu
[10:40] <Alexia> majuk, what is a raffle anyway?
[10:40] <Abhinav11> indus: I am following http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/wiki/GStreamer_Cross_Compile_With_MinGW_In_Chroot_Environment
[10:40] <indus> Kingsy101: maybe itsthe application only which is troubling the mouse
[10:40] <majuk> Koken: Because with Gentoo, you want support.
[10:40] <majuk> :D
[10:40] <Koken> heh
[10:41] <Kingsy101> indus - naw it seems to happen even if I have the application closed..
[10:41] <Koken> i would imagine gentoo would take AGES to install
[10:41] <majuk> Alexia: I don't know, I just randomly slam keys
[10:41] <Kingsy101> it never used to
[10:41] <zvacet> Sarge_TJ : in applications>other you can choose what you want to use
[10:41] <Alexia> OMG!!! i just want my sound to work, does anyone know how to fix it. my sound is extremely low and i cant increase volume
[10:41] <Dextorion> This channel is so much more cozy than all the rest!
[10:41] <indus> Kingsy101: hmm usb port problem? could be anything really, tried another mouse?
[10:42] <Koken> imagine expecting every computer to be able to compile an ENTIRE FREAKING OPERATING SYSTEM in a reasonable amount of time
[10:42] <poent> place head on keyboard | roll head
[10:42] <Koken> alexia
[10:42] <Koken> i can help
[10:42] <Kingsy101> indus - yea I guess I will just try the obvious things then
[10:42] <Kingsy101> np thanks
[10:42] <Alexia> Koken, really?
[10:42] <Koken> probably
[10:42] <Alexia> Koken, that would be amazing
[10:42] <indus> Abhinav11: iam a little confused? why cant you cross compile inside jaunty?
[10:42] <Koken> hmm, well, on my computer, there are multiple sliders in the advanced volume control
[10:42] <majuk> Alexia: I would check things like the setting on PCI, Front, the different components. Although I'll bet you have because I am unable to be right tonight.
[10:42] <Koken> and some of them affect eachother
[10:43] <indus> Abhinav11: all those steps can be done in jaunty too, dont you have mingw there?
[10:43] <indus> !info mingw
[10:44] <Sarge_TJ> zvacet: Yes, but my point is that I want my system to automatically use metacity when booting, because now it starts compiz everytime I boot.
[10:44] <Abhinav11> indus: I don't have mingw
[10:44] <indus> Abhinav11: nvm dont know how i can help
[10:44] <ubuntu> witam
[10:44] <poent> hey whats that starwars telnet thing?
[10:44] <majuk> Alexia: lol, you got me talking about Fluxbox and Compiz, I thought I was talking in #gentoo. gg
[10:45] <bluegoon> how do I install a .bin file??
[10:45] <indus> Abhinav11: hmm minimalist gnu for windows :)
[10:45] <indus> bluegoon: just use terminal and say ./filename.bin
[10:45] <bluegoon> indus kk
[10:45] <indus> bluegoon: or sh filename.bin
[10:45] <padhu> Join now for on-line class now: http://snipurl.com/qd45t
[10:45] <padhu> Meeting Key: thinkdigit
[10:45] <indus> bluegoon: tryfirst one
[10:45] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I changed my eth0 to static and now it says wired device not managed whats up with that?
[10:45] <laclasse> poent, ask google.
[10:45] <bluegoon> where would my CDrom be located in the terminal?
[10:46] <Abhinav11> indus: check I am going to use mingw32 but not able to download that
[10:46] <QuantumKaos> indus: i think ive found what i was looking for, ive got 3 extra hd on this machine and they have an ntfs filesys, so i guess i'll have to install ntfs-3g right?
[10:46] <laclasse> bluebaron_, /media if mounted
[10:46] <indus> Abhinav11: why not?
[10:46] <zvacet> Sarge_TJ : if you don´t want to use compiz then system>preferences>appearance>visual effects>no
[10:46] <laclasse> bluebaron_, phy device should be /dev/sr0 or somit
[10:46] <indus> QuantumKaos: no its installed by default
[10:46] <bluegoon> got it under media, thanks :)\
[10:47] <Abhinav11> indus: check 2.2 in that page
[10:47] <indus> QuantumKaos: its a text mode installer right?
[10:47] <Abhinav11> there is first command to update sources.list
[10:47] <pellicon> Declaration dropped，what does means?
[10:47] <indus> bluegoon: why u locating it under terminal?
[10:47] <Abhinav11> indus: after updating that when I am trying to update apt-get I am getting error
[10:47] <bluegoon> \
[10:47] <bluegoon> \
[10:47] <bluegoon> \
[10:47] <FloodBot3> bluegoon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:48] <indus> Abhinav11: what kind of error?
[10:48] <Vinceman> what is the best browser atm?
[10:49] <indus> Abhinav11: but in any case, i suggest use hardy for this kind of work
[10:50] <icarus-c> Vinceman:: bad question
[10:50] <Abhinav11> indus: error is E: Malformed line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[10:50] <indus> Vinceman: IE 8
[10:50] <indus> :D
[10:50] <majuk> lol
[10:50] <majuk> IE6!
[10:50] <indus> Vinceman: use firefox, iceweasel a lots to try
[10:50] <ubuntu> Abhinav11, apt source mis configured
[10:50] <psypher246> g'day everyone. i have been having a weird issue with firefox for a while now but it's now getting annoying and wonder if anyone else has this too. i have disabled all firefox addons except the ubuntu one. the problem is that any time there is a ' (qoute) in a page in an article on google reader it gets replaced with ’ why is that?
[10:50] <indus> Abhinav11: ok then the url iswrong
[10:50] <poent> laclasse, found it.  telnet towel.blinkinglights.nl
[10:50] <majuk> Vinceman: They're all free, decide for yourself! ;)
[10:50] <zvacet> Vinceman : this is not pool try them and see whitch one you like the best Opera,Firefox,Epiphany
[10:50] <ubuntu> psypher246, hello
[10:51] <indus> Abhinav11: check for special characters in the url
[10:51] <indus> Vinceman: try opera, its great
[10:51] <indus> Vinceman: very fast
[10:51] <indus> Vinceman: looks ugly with ubuntu though
[10:51] <Abhinav11> check that page there is given how to update sources.list
[10:51] <eltese> How do I mount an .iso image ? (Without burning it)
[10:51] <zvacet> indus:  8-)
[10:51] <Abhinav11> indus : in same section
[10:52]  * icarus-c hates brown
[10:52] <cha0s> hey guys, how can I allow access to apache from only localhost?
[10:52] <icarus-c> it is the fundamental reason i don't use ubuntu primarily
[10:52] <indus> Abhinav11: that section where it says update sources.lsit?
[10:52] <indus> icarus-c: wait till karmic
[10:52] <icarus-c> cha0s:: firewall i guess
[10:52] <vidyadhara> sudo mount /path/to/iso/image.iso mountpoint -o loop
[10:52] <indus> Abhinav11: for ubuntu hardy
[10:53] <majuk> cha0s: You can change the read permissions so only users/root can see the folder.
[10:53] <icarus-c> indus:: will change colour?
[10:53] <Abhinav11> indus: yah
[10:53] <cha0s> I tried: Order allow,deny\nAllow from localhost\nAllow from <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:53] <majuk> cha0s: via chmod, naturally
[10:53] <indus> icarus-c: yeah i think,a darker shade maybe
[10:53] <zvacet> eltese : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[10:53] <indus> icarus-c: brown has a lot of variety
[10:53] <cha0s> majuk: make it so www-data can't read the folder? what..?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> vidyadhara: you'd be suprised the amount of users who want a gui for that, its so simple
[10:53] <Abhinav11> I am adding that in /mingw-chroot/etc/apt/sources.list
[10:54]  * icarus-c hates whatever appears to be brown
[10:54] <indus> Abhinav11: so u added those lines to the 9.04 sources list???
[10:54] <zvacet> eltese: or http://www.ubuntugeek.com/easy-way-of-mountunmount-iso-images-in-ubuntu.html
[10:54] <indus> icarus-c: thats wrong. many things are brown and beautiful,
[10:54] <c0dem4gnetic> im writing a script to start up a service using init.d stuff ... apparently i cannot use & in a script, is there some other way to run it in the background?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> icarus-c: chocolate!
[10:54] <icarus-c> ActionParsnip:: people can't type these days
[10:54] <indus> icarus-c: you probably scared of ubuntu brown, its actually some orange
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> icarus-c: i know, its sad
[10:55] <indus> icarus-c: the only thing which i change in ubuntu is the window border
[10:55] <icarus-c> indus:: yay  ubuntu brown is the worst brown i've ever seen
[10:55] <Abhinav11> indus: yah I added these lines in above given address
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> icarus-c: you can skin and theme youur desktop as you please
[10:55] <data0faust> Gmount-iso would work for those wanting a gui to mount iso files.
[10:55] <Abhinav11> indus: i.e /mingw-chroot/etc/apt/sources.list
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> icarus-c: you can even make it look like vista/xp/osx
[10:55] <icarus-c> ActionParsnip:: that's actually the first thing i do after i install ubuntu B-)
[10:55] <sonroger> hello can someone please tell me how to set ubuntu to open brasero when i pop in a blank cd instead of nautil cd dvd creator?
[10:56] <apparle> plz suggest a GPS software
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> icarus-c: i have a script to gut the system and install drivers and plugins, first thing :)
[10:56] <WilliamC2> Should I recompile the kernel?
[10:56] <icarus-c> sonroger:: Nautilus -> Edit -> Preferences -> Media
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC2: no need really
[10:56] <indus> Abhinav11: hmm maybe chrooting is wrong
[10:56] <sonroger> icarus-c, thank you
[10:56] <icarus-c> WilliamC2:: any reason?
[10:56] <indus> Abhinav11: you are trying to build a chroot hardy environment in 9.04 i believe
[10:57] <WilliamC2> I remember that the kernel used to come with stuff that was useless and slowed down kernel initialization.
[10:57] <icarus-c> ActionParsnip:: good idea
[10:57] <Abhinav11> indus: no I have 8.10
[10:57] <indus> Abhinav11:so chroot inside 8.10 then
[10:57] <sonroger> icarus-c, theres no option there for a blank cd
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC2: the kernel comes up damn fast, you can disable services using bum if you like, that will reduce running servicesas well as speed up boot
[10:57] <apparle> plz suggest a software which can show maps like google maps and also show my current position if I connect a GPS module
[10:57] <indus> Abhinav11: maybe ActionParsnip might know this
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> indus: sup?
[10:58] <Dextorion> WilliamC2, recompiling the kernel for performance nowdays is pretty much useless. The stock kernels are so fast as is
[10:58] <indus> ActionParsnip: hello u familiar with chroot?
[10:58] <WilliamC2> Dextorion, do they come with hyperthreading support?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> indus: i use it in gentoo installs, otherwise no
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC2: yes they do
[10:58] <Dextorion> WilliamC2, yes
[10:58] <indus> ok
[10:58] <WilliamC2> oh, ok
[10:58] <icarus-c> sonroger:: see the drop-down menu next to Type?
[10:58] <Dextorion> ActionParsnip beat me to it!
[10:59] <indus> Abhinav11: could you post your question to ActionParsnip he 'may' help
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC2: to see what your cpu can do under the current kernel run: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:59] <WilliamC2> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:59] <WilliamC2> crap
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC2: in a terminal
[10:59] <icarus-c> lol
[10:59] <WilliamC2> ROFL
[10:59] <indus> lool
[10:59] <indus> that was funny
[10:59] <Abhinav11> ActionParsnip: hello I am getting some problem when I am following http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/wiki/GStreamer_Cross_Compile_With_MinGW_In_Chroot_Environment
[10:59] <icarus-c> WilliamC2:: you don't seem to be a man who could compile his own kernel :P
[11:00] <Abhinav11>  ActionParsnip: in section 2.2 how to update sources.list
[11:00] <WilliamC2> I've done it before, before KDE or GNome existed.
[11:00] <indus> WilliamC2: not in irc terminal :P in system
[11:00] <indus> happens sometimes
[11:00] <indus> i remember a guy who tried a whois but forgot the /
[11:00] <Abhinav11>  ActionParsnip: when I am trying to so getting error "E: Malformed line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)"
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Abhinav11: can you pastebin the file in error please
[11:01] <icarus-c> De Javu? i think i've seen the question a few seconds before
[11:01] <sonroger> icarus-c, yes i see it
[11:01] <WilliamC2> The other problem I have is that I cannot get my computer out of suspension.
[11:01] <sonroger> icarus-c, ok i got it, thanks
[11:02] <Barrage_Time> p0rn
[11:02] <icarus-c> WilliamC2:: what video driver are you using?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC2: thats a real pain to get nice, ive never bothered. such a pain
[11:02] <Abhinav11> ActionParsnip: http://gstreamer.pastebin.com/m2658b498 it is the sources.list file
[11:03] <tapas> hi, what's a good mono space font that's available on the last three ubuntu releases?
[11:03] <tapas> and packaged with the base system?
[11:03] <icarus-c> WilliamC2:: http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/index.html
[11:03] <tapas> [looking for a font for my emacs that i can use across systems]
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Abhinav11: let me see what i can dig up
[11:06] <Abhinav11> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Abhinav11: they usually have a url in the lines
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Abhinav11: ive not seen lines without
[11:08] <minimec> Abhinav11: Your list should look like this. First lines come from your pastebin. I corrected them. The rest is my sources.list as an example.
[11:08] <Abhinav11> ActionParsnip: yah, but what url should be there?
[11:08] <minimec> Abhinav11: http://paste.ubuntu.com/255644/
[11:09] <Abhinav11> minimec: Should I use that in same form ?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Abhinav11: use that pastebin but change all occurences of jaunty to hardy
[11:09] <Ziggyzxxyl> is there some issue with Sun Virtualbox 3.xx running in Ubuntu 8.10? I had to uninstall it because my system was acting weird... getting disk full errors when trying to download from firefox etc.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Abhinav11: comment out the lines you have so we can keep them but they will be ignored
[11:10] <zvacet> minimec: you have mixed repos
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> minimec: zvacet is righ, your top 3 lines are hardy
[11:11] <minimec> zvacet: ActionParsnip The first lines come from the pastebin that Abhinav11 pasted...
[11:11] <zvacet> ActionParsnip : at the bottom is one intrepid thnat is what I have on mind first few are esxample
[11:11] <minimec> Abhinav11: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[11:12] <bullhound> how to identify a usb device
[11:12] <Ziggyzxxyl> I added the virtualbox repos to my repository list and installed virtualbox 3... and it crippled my system.. is there any advantage in running virtualbox 3 over virtualbox-ose? IF so, how do I install virtualbox 3 without it bringing my system to its knees?
[11:13] <Koken> try ketchup
[11:13] <Koken> it solves everything
[11:13] <RabidWeezle> do they have an svn for virtualbox 3?
[11:13] <richardcavell> Hi, in Open Office Presentation I want to wrap text around a picture.  How do I do this?
[11:13] <RabidWeezle> if you can compile virtualbox 3, then it shouldn't cripple anything Ziggyzxxyl
[11:14] <RabidWeezle> I personally tend to compile software instead of add more repos except for extremely trusted sources
[11:14] <RabidWeezle> like wine
[11:15] <bullhound> i just connected a printer via usb ,it showed me  "usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" but how to identify the usb path for this ???
[11:17] <piksi>  <-- oh man does the update work smoothly or what
[11:17] <piksi> End of Lastlog
[11:17] <piksi> goddamn paste
[11:17] <combo> hello there, need little help. where can i find drivers to my monitor (Samsung SyncMaster-740bf) cuz I want to connect it via DVI and works only on analog connector :(
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> combo: you dont have drivers for monitors, only video cards
[11:18] <combo> ActionParsnip: yesterday I was trying to "install" AIGLX drivers (have Radeon 9600) with modyfing xorg.conf file. looks that everything works well byt still can;t use DVI
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> combo: you need to tell xorg to use the dvi
[11:19] <combo> ActionParsnip: hm, sounds good. you know how to ? :)
[11:19] <combo> ActionParsnip: wait! i remember that I've typing there "PCI" somethning instead DVI , hmm..
[11:20] <combo> ActionParsnip: if you have a sec, can you take a look at this - http://wklej.org/id/136942/ , plz :)
[11:20] <jamiewan> Can someone tell me how to change my Root password?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: you dont
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: you dont need it
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> !roo | jamiewan
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> !root
[11:22] <majuk> Can someone that is able to play OpenArena online paste me their q3config.cfg please.
[11:22] <richardcavell> Does anyone here know how to wrap text around a picture in OpenOffice Impress?
[11:23] <jamiewan> Its more about that i have a few family usere who know what it is and take it upon themselves to update stuff while i'm not home
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: add them to the admin group, they can thenuse sudo
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: the root account is completely unnecessary and so is disabled
[11:24] <jamiewan> this is very frustrating cause i dont want them to use it at all
[11:24] <minimec> jamiewan: In this case you could give you r family members some 'sudo' rights. Open users-admin ...
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: then dont have them in the dmin group and they cant use sudo and will be true "users"
[11:25] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip: Yes thats it thanx
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: you dont need root, forget root
[11:26] <x404x> how does sudo improve security ? everybody knows about it and if they can get an admin account what denies them sudo access ? would it not be easyer to use a root account name people cannot guess ?
[11:27] <scizzo-> x404x: no not reall
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> x404x: you have to be in the right group to use it, you also need to take extra steps to do admin things
[11:27] <scizzo-> x404x: sudo helps with control
[11:27] <scizzo-> !sudo
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> x404x: you also are running the desktop and other apps as user so only apps yu run using sudo and gksudo are ran with elevated priveledges so makes your system more secure
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> x404x: root is common to all *nix boxes, if the account is disabled then their is a 0% chance of the account being captured
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> x404x: if it has a password this is increased and also programs running as root may be captured and their access used. If this is user then the access is drastically reduced
[11:29] <x404x> yes so why not simply let the user make up an accont name that nobody can guess ? then they cant hack it
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> x404x: so runnig irc clients and web browsers is hugely foolhardy
[11:29] <indus> ActionParsnip: root isnt disabled is it,
[11:29] <erUSUL> x404x: a user with sudo privileges is "a root account name people cannot guess"
[11:29] <x404x> i find it frustrating using sudo every time i need to edit a file
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> x404x: then use   sudo -i     while you edit stuff
[11:30] <indus> x404x: u can get a root terminal
[11:30] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip: its just that when i do get prompted for password everyone at home knows it and screws things about a bit
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> x404x: you can exit / quit the sudo -i once you are done
[11:30] <indus> x404x: ya what ActionParsnip is saying,sudo -i will give u #
[11:30] <erUSUL> x404x: i can not konw which username in your box is in admin. but if you enable root i know for sure whos login name i woulb attack
[11:30] <scizzo-> !sudo > x404x
[11:30] <indus> x404x: ya type exit at terminal will bring u back to user
[11:30] <shriphani> hello, I just installed ubuntu 9.04 on a macbook pro, 4-1 and i was trying to get wireless to work. the problem is that if i try to disable the broadcom driver, it asks me to authorize and then does nothing and gives me an option to force quit it. any workarounds?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: then you must decide what is best for your setup, you could deny them it and you could cron a daily job for updates, or ssh in yourself and run the updates
[11:31] <minimec> ActionParsnip: Well... The problem is, that you get complete root access to the computer, when starting in 'recovery mode'. There you have the root account without any password. 'sudo -i' , then 'passwd' closes that hole... ;)
[11:32] <jamiewan> minimec: so at boot anyone can get in thru recovery???
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> minimec: i know i dislike that too but i guess its a handy local backdoor
[11:32] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip: Is that really the case????\
[11:33] <minimec> jamiewan: yes.
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: yes, the root account is open if you access the system locally in a recovery mode root bootup
[11:33] <erUSUL> minimec: if the attacker has phisical access to the computer there is nothing you can do to prevent the attack except full disk encryption. period
[11:33] <jamiewan> so really passwords are quite useless then
[11:33] <minimec> erUSUL: I agree with you.
[11:34] <scizzo-> if you have fysical access to a machine what is stopping you from doing anything?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: if you have local system access then you arent really hacking are you..
[11:34] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip:  obviously not
[11:34] <leaf-sheep> full disk encryption + no usplash + vga=ask (find highest resolution) rocks!
[11:35] <scizzo-> if you want you can always set a grub and BIOS password
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: so by aving passwords you keep the web hacker people out but people walking by can use the root account in recovery mode
[11:35] <scizzo-> then lock the computer into a safe or something that will keep it away from intruders
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: they can also take a chainsaw to it and damage the system that way, they have physical access
[11:35] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip: yes makes sense
[11:35] <NeXstaR> how to purge the temp folder in linux jaunty?
[11:36] <x404x> hm guess i should use the root console more i lost a long config file yesterday coz i forgot to type sudo and it refused to store the file
[11:36] <jamiewan> scizzo-: how so
[11:36] <x404x> i pasted out to another file but it only saved the page i was on, not the whole file
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> x404x: once the system is up and running, sudo is rarely needed
[11:36] <rocket16> Hi!
[11:36] <scizzo-> jamiewan: physical access to a machine can let you do anything with it
[11:36] <leaf-sheep> Hi rocket16; how are you?; will you build me a rocket? :)
[11:36] <x404x> im hoping i every get the system running still ;(
[11:37] <x404x> struggling a lot with news setup
[11:37] <syntax> how do you install the new konversation on ubuntu if you got the old one
[11:37] <x404x> so many options and none are properly explained in any dox i find ;(
[11:37] <rocket16> Yesterday I entered in a Windows Room, and they said that even minesweeper is better than all programmes in Ubuntu
[11:37] <jamiewan> scizzo-: yes i realise that but i just wondered the best way to keep nosy family out of system thats all.
[11:37] <rocket16> Ubuntu is the best!
[11:37] <indus> ActionParsnip: i have a suggestion, system should automatically use gksu for graphical applications
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: i'd say it was ok
[11:37] <scizzo-> jamiewan: passwords
[11:37] <indus> ActionParsnip: iam gonna put it on brainstorm
[11:38] <rocket16> ActionParsnip, What?
[11:38] <rocket16> Ubuntu is the best!
[11:38] <scizzo-> jamiewan: if you do not want them to access the system....BIOS password, GRUB password and so on
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> indus: you can just use gksu for both cli and gui apps, easier
[11:38] <x404x> is there someone who has time to help me a little with news setup ?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: ubuntu is ok. there is no best
[11:38] <rocket16> See, those Windows Guys just insult Ubuntu!
[11:38] <scizzo-> jamiewan: also setting other options in linux desktop...there is a big amount of messures to take
[11:38] <x404x> i want to setup a local server to host headers only and filter them for spam
[11:38] <leaf-sheep> What is minesweeper?
[11:38] <jamiewan> scizzo-: thanx yeah that prob the best way
[11:39] <rocket16> Why so ActionParsnip? Are you a fan of Win-XP so?
[11:39] <ndubula> hi friends
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: no i just understand what an OS is
[11:39] <leaf-sheep> Ooo so that's called minesweeper, well I only know gnomine. :)
[11:39] <rocket16> Hi ndubula
[11:39] <scizzo-> jamiewan: like I said if someone has a boot CD or something like that they can access the machine directly...however if you set a BIOS pass you are starting to get somewhere
[11:39] <deany> x404x, what do you call `news setup`  ask a direct question with details
[11:39] <ndubula> hi rocket
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: which is best, a screwdriver or a saw?
[11:40] <rocket16> Funny question ActionParsnip. A screwdriver
[11:40] <x404x> i did
[11:40] <delicowa> BOTH
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: but i want to cut wood, is a screwdriver still best?
[11:40] <x404x> first which server is best suited ? inn ? inn2 or cnews ?
[11:40] <majuk> Anyone know a way to disable the IPv6 emulation in Jaunty?
[11:40] <rocket16> ndubula, I am from India. You?
[11:40] <Alvinware> How to auto connect hidden network? cause after i accidentally removed network-tools, and gnome network-tools, after that i re-install it back. Before the remove, i was able to auto connect hidden network.
[11:40] <delicowa> @ActionParsnip BOTH
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> delicowa: correct answer
[11:40] <ndubula> rocket I am from Tanzania
[11:41] <rocket16> ActionParsnip, no it is not
[11:41] <WilliamC2> What director is OpenSSL located?
[11:41] <WilliamC2> What directory is OpenSSL located?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: there is no best OS, the OS is the tool for the job
[11:41] <Alvinware> erUSUL, How to auto connect hidden network? cause after i accidentally removed network-tools, and gnome network-tools, after that i re-install it back. Before the remove, i was able to auto connect hidden network.
[11:41] <x404x> i like something what is easy to setup and has a good subject filter for headers and can host headers only ( i have another server doing bodies)
[11:41] <rocket16> ndubula, Tanzania is great!
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: if ubuntu does the job better than a windows system then sure use it
[11:41] <Alvinware> ActionParsnip, How to auto connect hidden network? cause after i accidentally removed network-tools, and gnome network-tools, after that i re-install it back. Before the remove, i was able to auto connect hidden network.
[11:41] <ndubula> OK ROCKET
[11:41] <majuk> Alvinware: Stop that.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: i use a few distros and OSes as they suit different needs
[11:41] <jamiewan> scizzo-:  its just that when im not home and wife or daughter is using system, they get a pop up or up[date or whatever and just run the thing without really knowing whats going on
[11:41] <Alvinware> majuk, what's your problem?
[11:42] <WilliamC2> I'm trying to enable OpenSSL in XChat and I don't know where it is
[11:42] <rocket16> Sure, see Ubuntu is virus free, but can the same thing be said about Windows?
[11:42] <Guest90972> hi my first time
[11:42] <scizzo-> jamiewan: well I believe that can be setup in a way
[11:42] <rocket16> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:42] <ndubula> ROCKET: HAVE YOU USED UBUNTU?
[11:42] <rocket16> Yes
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: my file server runs gentoo as the hardwae is old and i want it fast and punchy, it only knows a few base things. an ubuntu server install would be several times the installed size and would do the same job and be slower
[11:42] <rocket16> I use Ubuntu 9.04
[11:42] <deany> x404x, best google it, there will lots of guides out there.
[11:42] <RabidWeezle> rocket16: to be exact, ubuntu is not "virus free", there are linux viruses, just rare
[11:42] <x404x> the main idea is to reduce system load by filtering out the spam and also that i can spend some time sorting out content and not just garbage. also drives still cost money so not hosting spam and bodies is nice
[11:43] <ndubula> ROCKET: WHAT ABOUT SUSE SERVER?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: bsd has high security and is great for routers, my router runs a variant of bsd
[11:43] <jamiewan> scizzo-: sometimes i get home and theres rubbish i dont need or crap installed so i was thinking if possible to change root password for that reason
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: ubuntu is on my desktop and most powerful pc
[11:43] <delicowa> @#rocket16 NO Way---I installed windows7 last week on my tower and now it's as slow as hell even with tune up and bitdefender anti virus
[11:43] <delicowa> @rocket16 NO Way---I installed windows7 last week on my tower and now it's as slow as hell even with tune up and bitdefender anti virus
[11:43] <rocket16> RabidWeezle: According to Kaspersky, there are only 800 pieces of malwares found for linux, but for windows, it is >11000
[11:43] <jamiewan> scizzo-:  but prob better just set up other user account for them?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: do you see my point now
[11:43] <x404x> yes i know deany, theres lots of guides but few options are well explained , maybe i havent found the right guides yet
[11:44] <rocket16> ndubula: I have no info about that, since I use Ubuntu Amd 64 Server
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: best is only a comparison of a product against the needs so is not concrete outside of your own  evaluations
[11:44] <RabidWeezle> oh for sure rocket16, there isn't as many, and the only way you would have to worry about getting a linux virus is if you were pretty much just trying to get linux warez, but it's out there :)
[11:44] <leaf-sheep> !hi | Guest90972
[11:45] <Guest90972> ok ok
[11:45] <scizzo-> jamiewan: should work better yes
[11:45] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: No OS is best, but for Ubuntu and other Linux, they are much better than Windows and Mac
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: again that is speculative. ut for your requirements yes ubuntu is best, millions would agree and millions would disagree
[11:45] <rocket16> RabidWeezle: Yes, but I have not met any virus in Ubuntu for 6 years
 hi can i learn ubantu from u ?
[11:46] <Bob_Dole> ...
[11:46] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Right, but the second millions are not experts, and why to take views of Novices?
[11:46] <leaf-sheep> rocket16: Ask the right person, he/she will say any linux distro are the best choice. :)
[11:46] <RabidWeezle> ubottu is the bot there Guest90972
[11:46] <indus> Guest90972: ubottu is a bot
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: they may not be
[11:46] <vitek_> #amarok
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: you cannot assume that, intelligently
[11:46] <Bob_Dole> Guest90972, , that's a bot, and you spelled both the bot's name, and the distro's name incorrectly.
[11:47] <leaf-sheep> Guest90972: If you have anything to ask about Ubuntu, ask away.
[11:47] <indus> Guest90972: learn from all of us here, check documentation for ubuntu
[11:47] <WilliamC2> Does anyone know?
[11:47] <linuxson> Hi everyone
[11:47] <rocket16> Still, ActionParsnip, Ubuntu is better than Windows. If you support Windows, what is your point then?
[11:47] <RabidWeezle> The best way I think to "learn" ubuntu is checking out some ubuntu for dummies style books, that's how I learned linux over 10 years ago :)
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: i support all OSes equally
[11:48] <Bob_Dole> !hi | linuxson
[11:48] <indus> rocket16: ubuntu is better than windows is a vague statement
[11:48] <isydor> hi - gnome-panel disappears when switching on/off the second display using twinview via nvidia-settings - could not find anything about it on various forums/bugtrackers, etc.
[11:48] <WilliamC2> Real men program their own OS using pure binary
[11:48] <rocket16> indus: Why so?
[11:48] <Bob_Dole> WilliamC2, so have you contributed to menuet?
[11:48] <RabidWeezle> WilliamC2 could I use assembly instead?
[11:48] <Flannel> rocket16, ActionParsnip, indus, et al: Mind taking this to #ubuntu-offtopic?  Thanks
[11:48] <indus> rocket16: same reasons why u feel ubuntu is better
[11:48] <indus> yeah ok sorry
[11:48] <indus> off topic
[11:48] <WilliamC2> Bob_Dole, Menuet?
[11:49] <Guest90972> Why linux is more secure than windows ??
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest90972: the default user model isnt administrator
[11:49] <x404x> coz it dont reboot or crash every 5 minutes ?
[11:49] <Guest90972> is there any special feature
[11:49] <indus> Guest90972: one big reason is no viruses, no ports open by default, built in freeeeee firewall which is super etc etc
[11:49] <deany> !virus | Guest90972
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest90972: so processes run as users and have much less access to the systm outside the users home
[11:49] <Bob_Dole> WilliamC2, it's an OS made from Assembly code.
[11:50] <linuxson> Trying to register my nick with nickserve, using xchat....but I dont know how to identify when logging back in
[11:50] <deany> lol Bob_Dole
[11:50] <rocket16> Guest90972: Move to blogs.zdnet.com/threatchaos/index.php?p=311. There you will get your answer
[11:50] <indus> Guest90972: also the privilege model of running applications where users have limited acess to system processes
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> !register | linuxson
[11:50] <WilliamC2> Bob_Dole, there is another OS named LosThos which I don't even understand the purpose
[11:50] <linuxson> keeps on logging out
[11:50] <linuxson> Any sure fire way of doing this?
[11:50] <leaf-sheep> Guest90972: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[11:51] <GPL> when i click a url, it doesnt open it up in a web browser but recently installed bluefish editor ? why so :(
[11:51] <WilliamC2> http://www.losethos.com/
[11:51] <WilliamC2> So, anyways
[11:51] <delicowa> ok when you click on the url what application does it open
[11:51] <WilliamC2> Where is OpenSSL installed?
[11:51] <linuxson> Hello?
[11:52] <linuxson> Anyone there?
[11:52] <WilliamC2> I installed it via package so I don't really know
[11:52] <NeXstaR> how to purge the temp / files of programs that is already uninstalled in jaunty?
[11:52] <rocket16> Guest90972: See, Ubuntu or other Linux distributions give the user limited privileges. Only The root or superuser has the permissions to access and overwrite System Files. So, even if any malware gets in, it can not access the system files, since it will run with the privileges of a limited user actually.
[11:52] <rocket16> linuxson: Yes
[11:52] <indus> linuxson: yes what is the question
[11:52] <NeXstaR> how to purge the temp / files of programs that is already uninstalled in jaunty?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> NeXstaR: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[11:52] <rocket16> linuxson: What's the question?
[11:52] <homebrewcider> halfway through printing jobs, my printer stops printing, pauses for a while then spits out the page half printed, then a lsusb command shows no printer at all,anyone had this problem?
[11:52] <NeXstaR> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> NeXstaR: if you run: dpkg -l | grep rc    you will see all the apps with residual configs etc, you can then run: sudo dpkg -P <package name> to remove them
[11:53] <indus> homebrewcider: hmm possible causes, faulty usb port, faulty cable, a bug in the driver itself, printer power button etc
[11:53] <indus> homebrewcider: if you dont see any of thse issues in windows, then its a driver issue
[11:53] <rocket16> Hey all, is there a way to open a Password Protected Chatroom in freenode? Such that me and my friends can access it to make a conference?
[11:54] <homebrewcider> I've eliminated the cable and port as problem, uninstalled driverf and reinstalled
[11:54] <Guest90972> join #network
[11:54] <homebrewcider> what I was thinking
[11:54] <NeXstaR> kwl thanks ActionParsnip...
[11:54] <indus> homebrewcider: what printer
[11:54] <homebrewcider> Canon Mp610
[11:54] <Guest90972>  hi any one there ??
[11:54] <GPL> sorry, m back, Connection was lost !
[11:54] <rocket16> Guest90972: Yes
[11:54] <indus> homebrewcider: so canon supplies the drivers for this? or ubuntu automatically does?
[11:55] <rocket16> Guest90972: What is the question?
[11:55] <dstaubsauger> how can i upgrade a package (gstreamer) with a new version i compiled from source without breaking the package management?
[11:55] <rocket16> Flannel, Mind if I put a list why is Linux better than Windows here?
[11:56] <Jyxt> rocket16: better to do a link...dont spam the channel
[11:56] <Jyxt>  http://imgur.com/L53Lb.png
[11:56] <rocket16> Ok then
[11:56] <rocket16> The link is http://kerneltrap.org/node/5610
[11:58] <deany> rocket16, thats a ridiculous article
[11:58] <rocket16> deany: Why so?
[11:59] <deany> rocket16, for one thing,  "why windows is better than Linux" (which linux?)
[11:59] <murlidhar> deany: join #ubuntu-offtopic ...........this is a support channel not a offtopic channel
[11:59] <rocket16> deany: Just ignore that, since the article below "Why is Linux vetter than Windows" is remarkable
[12:00] <homebrewcider> got canon ones
[12:00] <deany> ok, just sounds like someone who booted it up, was expecting windows like usage, failed epicly, and just bitched about it on a blog
[12:00] <rocket16> Heading for Ubuntu-Offtopic. See you all again!
[12:01] <homebrewcider> MP610-2.80-cups-ppds-1.0 actually
[12:03] <homebrewcider> it's as if printer goes offline
[12:04] <dbglt> hi all, using jaunty now, I downloaded the karmic iso, just wondering if there is a quick way to upgrade with it? I've mounted it as a loop device, but no idea what to do from here :p
[12:05] <murlidhar> dbglt: if it's a alternate cd...it can be upgraded otherwise i am afraid u have to do a fresh installation from a live cd
[12:05] <bullgard4> How is the number '15' called in the DEB program package name "linux-image-2.6.28-15-generic"? Is this the 'distribution patch level'?
[12:05] <dbglt> murlidhar: ah, that's annoying, damn
[12:05] <dbglt> murlidhar: and it's not recommended to just edit your sources to upgrade, is it?
[12:05] <murlidhar> dbglt: not recommended at all
[12:06] <temporarytao> hi, i'm trying to learn how to make C programs in linux. can anyone point me to a downloadable PDF of a good book for this?
[12:06] <bhavesh2177> how can i hack my root password?
[12:06] <temporarytao> i have some experience in c programming but i'm getting confused about what libraries to use or what commands to use when programming in linux
[12:07] <temporarytao> i got spoiled by the conio.h library, you could say.
[12:07] <murlidhar> temporarytao: use any file editor and save the file with .c extension then use run gcc /file/path .............. someone correct me if i am wrong please
[12:07] <x404x> yeah conio is nice ;=)
[12:07] <indus> dbglt: yes is possible to edit and upgrade
[12:07] <WilliamC2> I'm trying to enable OpenSSL support
[12:07] <WilliamC2> http://pastebin.com/m4270a6f6
[12:07] <dbglt> indus: aye, am aware it's possible. Would just like to minimise potential issues
[12:07] <indus> dbglt: but i rather use the update manager to do it
[12:07] <WilliamC2> It's installed but I'm getting issues
[12:08] <dbglt> indus: update manager would do the same thing, no?
[12:08] <indus> yes
[12:08] <temporarytao> murlidhar, i've got that part alread
[12:08] <WilliamC2> bum
[12:08] <indus> dbglt: its possible to upgraade from cd itself
[12:08] <WilliamC2> wrong window
[12:08] <homebrewcider> indus- drivers are MP610-2.80-cups-ppds-1.0
[12:08] <temporarytao> i just need a downloadable PDF guide to follow so that i can get acquainted with c programming in linux
[12:09] <murlidhar> temporarytao: google ftw
[12:09] <dbglt> indus,murlidhar: I've got the desktop cd, not the alternate one. If I get update manager to add the cd as a repoistory, isn't that just as problematic as manually editing my sources.lst?
[12:09] <indus> homebrewcider: seems like a driver issue frankly, write to cannon maybe
[12:09] <temporarytao> murlidhar, done and done... :)
[12:09] <temporarytao> murlidhar, but no dice
[12:09] <temporarytao> :(
[12:09] <indus> dbglt: both are easy
[12:09] <murlidhar> temporarytao: ah let me check it for ya
[12:10] <indus> dbglt: whats your questionb though
[12:10] <dbglt> indus: I'm not sure I follow. I don't mind difficulty factor, I just want to make sure there are no problems in upgrading
[12:10] <homebrewcider> prints 90% of the time no problem, scans as well, but spat the dummy tonight on the same page on 2 separate occasions with a restart in between
[12:10] <dbglt> indus: is there a way to upgrade with the desktop cd, that is not likely to cause any problems?
[12:10] <murlidhar> dbglt: you can't add the live cd as a repository afaik
[12:10] <dbglt> indus: *or liable to cause any problems, even
[12:10] <dbglt> murlidhar: ahhh, that'd make sense
[12:10] <temporarytao> if i can't get a downloadable pdf, is there a "devhelp" package i can use to search around for what libraries are available by default?
[12:11] <murlidhar> temporarytao: gcc --help ?
[12:11] <temporarytao> you know, like the stdio, stdlib, conio, etc etc etc help that turbo c offered
[12:11] <indus> dbglt: ok live cd not possible it seems
[12:12] <bhavesh2177> sorry for the delay
[12:12] <bhavesh2177> i am back
[12:12] <bhavesh2177> anu help buddies
[12:12] <bhavesh2177> any help buddies
[12:12] <bhavesh2177> i need to get through my PC
[12:12] <temporarytao> murlidhar, that's the help for the gcc compiler. i already rtfm for gcc :)
[12:12] <bhavesh2177> i don't have root rights
[12:12] <bhavesh2177> and my grub is password protected
[12:13] <CaneToad1> For some reason CTRL-ALT-F1 and similar keys have stopped working in Jaunty for me....are there updates that could have messed it up?
[12:13] <indus> dbglt: but remember , this upgrade will remove any packages not installed from cd i read somewhere
[12:13] <murlidhar> temporarytao: http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~rus/Courses/SysSoft/GDB.pdf
[12:14] <jamiewan> bhavesh2177:  are u sure its your computer :-)
[12:14] <murlidhar> temporarytao: i did not open the pdf but you might find something interesting .......do tell me if it's of no use to you
[12:14] <bhavesh2177> yes sir
[12:14] <bhavesh2177> but i am a junior technician
[12:15] <bhavesh2177> so no root for me
[12:15] <jamiewan> bhavesh2177: i posed the same question about 20 minutes ago and got back a very sure  NO YOU CAN"T
[12:15] <temporarytao> murlidhar, thanks. checking it out now...
[12:16] <jamiewan> bhavesh2177: try restarting in recovery mode
[12:18] <leagris> hello, who to contact for technical issues about ubuntu mailing lists X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" ?
[12:20] <paissad-hp> i try to run x11vnc, but i have this error, may someone help me to solve that ? http://pastebin.fr/5354
[12:21] <paissad-hp> i don't know why the authentification is wrong, i entered the good password
[12:21] <nixadmin> ython
[12:22] <greyfox> Hello
[12:23] <greyfox> Hi
[12:24] <greyfox> Can someone help me please
[12:24] <greyfox> I don't have wifi driver for my linux
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> greyfox: can you pastebin the output of: sudo lshw -C network
[12:24] <greyfox> my wifi card driver isn't availble on linux
[12:24] <oguncak> hi friends. i just went to the pidgin web-site and wanted to download the 2.6 version. i applied the ppa changes but update manager didnt find any updates. what can i do?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> greyfox: i know, that command will tell us what chip it is
[12:25] <greyfox> ActionParsnip : am not on ubuntu now,am on windows,till I solve my problem