[00:05] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: where do you live? when you mentioned the time on your last post, it was 12 hours away.... and from where I am, that would put you in AK or HI
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, Pacific NW
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> fiddy miles from the ocean and the mountains
[00:06] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: haha. We might be neighbors them (when I'm home). I live in the Portland suburbs
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> we would be yes
[00:07] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: I'm in NL for a month, thankfully this trip is half over
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> ever been to frrgeek
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> freegeek
[00:07] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: looooooooooooong time ago
[00:08] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: still down in the Hawthorne area?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> I used to clean there carpets pro-bono git my first computer there about 6 years ago, yeah same place.
[00:08] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: you live in PDX too?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> yep
[00:08] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: small world :)
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> it is I see people I don;t even all over the place repeatedly, ;)
[00:09] <SuperLag> haha
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> know*
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> I graduated from PSU about 2 years ago as an older adult.
[00:10] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: what's older?
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> 49
[00:10]  * SuperLag is going to be done with college in 10 days.
[00:10] <SuperLag> I wish I'd have gone to PSU.
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> middle aged, you will have to wait for me to turn up my hearing aid, and get off my lawn, lol
[00:11] <SuperLag> haha
[00:11] <SuperLag> I'll hit 40 in November... so I'm not that far behind you.
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Almost free school for undergrad with the pell and oregon opportunity grant
[00:12] <SuperLag> Yeah... I really wish I'd have done PSU instead.
[00:12] <SuperLag> Instead, I fell for the bullshit spiel of University of Phoenix.
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> My grad school is on the reed campus in the summer, so I just you know follow the trend, hint, hint
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> on occasion anyway
[00:13] <SuperLag> what are you studying for grad work?
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> intercultural relations the undergrad is Black Studies with a minor in psych
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> I'm a former Jazz musician I started at MT Hood CC in 1983
[00:14] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: what's the end goal?
[00:15] <SuperLag> yeah, I started at Peninsula College in Port Angeles, in 1992. It's only taken me 21 years to get my undergrad done.
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> possibly clinical psychology, but I may just go back to my business carpet and upholstery cleaning, quite profitable.
[00:15] <SuperLag> I should have my grad degree by the time my daughter has kids :)
[00:15] <SuperLag> (at this rate)_
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> I'm a slacker so all this work is not my style, I returned to college after developing epilepsy from a earlier head injury, and could not drive anymore.
[00:16] <SuperLag> oh damn
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> the epilepsy seems to have receded though so I may drive soon.
[00:17] <SuperLag> epilepsy can really do a number on you
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> yeah, no biggoe though I had petty-mals looked like I fell asleep with my eyes open kinda creepy I suspect.
[00:18] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: I'd do the self-employed thing, if you already have a good customer base
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, I used to do same day service before most others did that was where the money was, people spilling stuff or pets throwing up on persian rugs.
[00:19] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: so what got you interested in open source stuff?
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> I needed a computer for college and my therapist a clinical psychologist, heard someone metion it at best buy
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> freegeek was what she heard
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> wiped home 3 times in the first 6 months
[00:21] <SuperLag> haha
[00:21] <SuperLag> awesome
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> I had never used a computer regularly, so I had no clue, but it has been an advantage to learning open source I think.
[00:22] <SuperLag> I have a Cadillac of a machine now. I learned a *long* time ago, how painful wiping ~ is. It lives on another drive, permanently, now.
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> I clone all the OS, I rarely need to reload but one never knows, and I hate asking for help.
[00:23] <SuperLag> If you would have told me then, that I'd end up owning a laptop that I could put 3 drives into... involving no modification to the stock hardware, I'd have laughed at you.
[00:24] <SuperLag> I love this ThinkPad.
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, Many parts of my life as well carpet cleaning is one, but I ran out of money on a refurb on a hose I owned and a roomate did this at sears and I saw within in a week all they did was advertise I left and never looked back, I average 100$ per hour when I work, just not 8 hours a day isall.
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> house*
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> anyway we are way into offtopic, let me know if you hit the town.
[00:27] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: I'll be back home in PDX on the 22nd
[00:27] <SuperLag> I miss my girls. I didn't get to bring my wife and daughter with this time. :/
[00:27] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: I asked a question in the main channel once... got a workaround type of answer, but I just got the right answer.
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> that is tough missing family, I have never been married and have no children being artistic driven I'm just a child in some ways and like my freedom.
[00:28] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: I was installing some apps that had bugs that required you to export an environment variable before starting, for them to work properly.
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> ooh fun
[00:29] <SuperLag> so... what I was told initially, was a workaround
[00:29] <SuperLag> point Exec= to a script in another dir, that exports the env var, and then runs the binary
[00:29] <SuperLag> but you don't have to do that
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> time for a starbucks run here to use my 2$ iced coffee receipt, viva the caffeine
[00:30] <SuperLag> you can do: Exec=env FOO=/bar/baz pidgin
[00:30] <SuperLag> and that will work
[00:30] <SuperLag> no extra script necessary
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> ah cool, talk with you later
[00:30] <SuperLag> ciao
[02:59] <fetoega> After installing saucy netboot iso all i get is a black screen. Should i disable KMS to get it working?
[11:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all


[18:24] <lotuspsychje> just for the info: ubuntu phones are comming http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/bq-ubuntu-phone-launches-in-europe-this-february join #ubuntu-touch to thank the developers who worked very hard
[18:24] <aktx> you have to add SendPrimary=0 to vncconfig line
[18:24] <stivballmer> k1l_ yes, my user in plugdev group
[18:24] <aktx> lotuspsychje, ohyeah? nice
[18:26] <jash> when is the ubuntu edge release?
[18:26] <stivballmer> k1l_, my system is ubuntu 12.04 with minimal lxde, i remove lightdm , replace xinit for session, install icewm
[18:26] <rodney77> Hello, is there a good program in Ubuntu I can use to make an audio CD...
[18:27] <k1l_> jash: if you fund the last millions needed i am sure they will make it :)  else: there is none
[18:27] <rodney77> ...where I can set/normalize audio levels between tracks, choose the amount of space inbetween tracks, etc?
[18:28] <stivballmer> rodney77, if this question, you can use brasero with normalize plugin
[18:28] <k1l_> stivballmer: missing gvfs?
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> rodney77: brasero should do the trick
[18:28] <jash> LOL
[18:29] <navad> hi could anyone assist me in setting up redmine with svn? i had svn server installed first, then installed redmine, i'd like to attach the two
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> !burn | rodney77
[18:29] <k1l_> stivballmer: usually the desktops use gvfs for easy automount. dont know if that is in your setup there. and maybe it is a root permission issue since lightdm is starting the xserver as root and handling that for the user desktops
[18:29] <navad> i'm having some issues getting that paths and such to work in apache
[18:30] <Actionparsnip> navad: ask in #apache as well :-)
[18:30] <stivballmer> k1l_, i have gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-common gvfs-deamons gvfs-fuse gvfs-libs and udisks
[18:30] <navad> thanks
[18:31] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: is it a USB storage you are having issues with?
[18:31] <rodney77> Thanks, ubottu, I didn't think brasero could do those other things I mentioned, but I will check it out again. I'll check out the other ones too
[18:34] <donileo> hey guys
[18:34] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip , usb and cd drive , i dont eject and mount all in pcmanfm , under user
[18:34] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: what filesystem is the USB using?
[18:34] <donileo> i have bind set to listen to an internal ip yet it doesnt do it.. after i do a sudo service bind9 restart then it does
[18:34] <Actionparsnip> Hi donileo
[18:34] <donileo> so upon initial boot itll never bind to that specified ip..
[18:34] <blackangelpr> !cn
[18:35] <Actionparsnip> donileo: does it stop after a while or does a reboot make it stop?
[18:35] <blackangelpr> anyone know the channel for kyling?
[18:35] <blackangelpr> the list on the freenode its too big
[18:35] <donileo> no.. it doesnt stop. bind/named is actually running
[18:35] <donileo> on localhost
[18:35] <donileo> but it wont bind to another interface i have which is <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:35] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip, fat
[18:36] <donileo> after i do the service restart it works perfect though
[18:36] <Actionparsnip> donileo: so after a reboot you need to restart the service to make it actually operate?
[18:36] <donileo> to make it bind to <IP_ADDRESS> yes
[18:36] <manikanta> gpg
[18:36] <manikanta> what is gpg keys?
[18:36] <donileo> it binds to localhost fine all the time
[18:36] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: have you ran an fsck on it when it is unmounted?
[18:36] <manikanta> can anyone explain me  plz?
[18:37] <Actionparsnip> donileo: all I can suggest, til you get a fix, is to add the command to restart the service in /etc/rc.local above the ' exit 0 ' line
[18:38] <donileo> i have this line listen-on port 53 { <IP_ADDRESS>;<IP_ADDRESS>; };
[18:38] <stivballmer> k1l_, start xserver\pcmanfm with root user so easy but not usable with my, but this work
[18:38] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: they are used in Ubuntu to authenticate packages from sources
[18:38] <donileo> actionparsnip.. im guessing maybe the interface isnt yet up when named tries binding into it?
[18:38] <manikanta> So every repository has a gpg key or each package in a repository has gpg key?
[18:39] <k1l_> stivballmer: most packages are meant to be started by the *dm (lightdm). so i think that might be the issue there.
[18:39] <squinty> blackangelpr:  in hexchat or xchat > Server > List of Channels > Search   probably similar in your irc client if not using either of the other two
[18:39] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: each repo has a key and so does each ppa
[18:40] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: are you seeing a missing key when you run: sudo apt-get update
[18:40] <manikanta> Yes :'( :'(
[18:40] <manikanta> 50keys have been settled by following this http://askubuntu.com/questions/511736/cannot-solve-gpg-error
[18:40] <manikanta> but still there are 3 keys..
[18:40] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: pastebin the output of : sudo apt-get update ,and we can advise
[18:40] <chatterboi> Actionparsnip: i honestly dont think its possible
[18:41] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip, no, you understand, see this screenshot http://rghost.ru/59777192/image.png, you see error? i think problem in rules auto mount deamons, but i dont know fix it
[18:41] <manikanta> W: GPG error: http://apt.postgresql.org precise-pgdg Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7FCC7D46ACCC4CF8
[18:41] <manikanta> W: GPG error: http://dl.hhvm.com precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A16E7281BE7A449
[18:41] <manikanta> W: GPG error: http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org dist Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9ECBEC467F0CEB10
[18:41] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9562474/
[18:41] <manikanta> there you go
[18:41] <manikanta> !
[18:42] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: what is the output of : cat /etc/issue
[18:42] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: gimme a sec. I have a command for this
[18:43] <manikanta> Okay :) I will wait
[18:43] <stivballmer> manikanta, you version ubuntu? output sudo apt-cache policy python-software-properties
[18:43] <chatterboi> system you using on the ssd!
[18:43] <gargsms> I was trying to allow direct login on system boot in my ecryptfs secured user account. So, I created a new administrator user. Then from that user I modified the previous account to login directly on boot without password.
[18:43] <manikanta> 12.04
[18:44] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip, ubuntu 12.04
[18:44] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9562490/
[18:44] <gargsms> Now when I boot, there are no passwords asked, but I cannot boot properly. The login screen keeps coming again and again.
[18:44] <chatterboi> we are unable to stop them, so you must protect yourself
[18:44] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com CODEHERE
[18:44] <chatterboi> ${array[@]} Actionparsnip: i honestly dont think its possible
[18:45] <manikanta> for 3 gpg errors?
[18:45] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: obviously change "codehere" to the large hex code from your output
[18:45] <manikanta> Yeah
[18:45] <stivballmer> manikanta, i fix you problem , i downgrade python-software-properties
[18:45] <diegocastro> test
[18:45] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: no you need to run it for each gpg you are missing
[18:45] <gargsms> The only way I can boot in is by doing Ctrl + Alt + F2 then logging with the old account and startx. Then I need to do Ctrl + Alt + F7 to come back and boot in properly.
[18:46] <gargsms> I am using Ubuntu 14.04LTS. Any help?
[18:46] <Actionparsnip> Can someone please kick chatterboi
[18:46] <Actionparsnip> gargsms: is the OS fully updated?
[18:46] <Prezident> Why?
[18:46] <Prezident> What he did Actionparsnip ?
[18:46] <gargsms> Yes.
[18:46] <Actionparsnip> Prezident: smells like a bot
[18:47] <gargsms> I tried disabling the auto-login from the other account, but it does not work.
[18:47] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: missed if you replied to my fsck question. Did you fsck the fat partition?
[18:47] <k1l_> chatterboi: please read the !guidelines and keep this channel for constructive support. thanks
[18:47] <chatterboi> i did uninstall and reinstall, but when
[18:47] <Actionparsnip> Told ya
[18:48] <donileo> Actionparsnip
[18:48] <donileo> got some more details
[18:49] <manikanta> Still the same errors :'(
[18:49] <donileo> so.. that <IP_ADDRESS> interface is actually my openvpn tun0 interface..
[18:49] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9562474/
[18:49] <donileo> so im guessing whats happening is bind is trying to start on that interface however openvpn hasnt started yet and started the interface
[18:49] <donileo> so im wondering how to resolve the issue
[18:50] <manikanta> @Actionparnship ??
[18:51] <mlindner> Why is ubuntu's version of eclipse ridiculously out of date?
[18:52] <bubbasaures> mlindner, So out of date you gad to add "ridiculously" to make your point?
[18:52] <bubbasaures> had*
[18:52] <bubbasaures> who's "ridiculously" and what is the definition?
[18:52] <mlindner> bubbasaures: no support for c++11 compilation without all sorts of hacks for example
[18:53] <mlindner> also old and buggy UI
[18:53] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip, http://pastebin.com/6CdzeFVq
[18:53] <k1l_> mlindner: file a bug/request to increase version. maybe its maintainers are gone and need help
[18:54] <k1l_> mlindner: bug/request on launchpad.net
[18:54] <mlindner> k1l_: maintainer is ubuntu developers
[18:55] <k1l_> mlindner: file against  the eclipse package. and see if the maintainer response. else try to help there. maybe there is none left who looks after eclipse.
[18:55] <Pici> It likely just gets synced from debian.
[18:57] <trism> the bug is already there anyway, bug 1019273
[18:58] <mlindner> trism: sometimes i wonder if ubuntu maintainers aren't inept idiots. Nothing gets updated until users beg and plead for it
[18:59] <mlindner> enough to make you switch distros
[18:59] <mlindner> if this distro wasn't company mandated
[18:59] <k1l_> mlindner: well, what about you help them instead of just demanding and namecalling?
[18:59] <Helaoo> HI?
[19:00] <manikanta> gpg keys error anyone??
[19:00] <manikanta> can anyone explain it??
[19:01] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9562706/
[19:01] <Helaoo> gvgff
[19:02] <Changa> Hello, I have just moved from a shared hosting to a 14.04 ubuntu vps from OVH, by default they don't provide a management page to assign domains to use with it. How do I go about directing several domains to the server to use?
[19:07] <mlindner> k1l_: how? i'd update the package in ubuntu myself if i could
[19:07] <mlindner> centralized package mangement isn't good in general
[19:08] <alami> hello, can any one help me to solve a PRoblem with my VGA card?  VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[19:12] <robby2k> hi
[19:12] <robby2k> when i install steam the program doesnt launch
[19:13] <lumia900> Dose apache2 works as like IIS for multi website on same server ?
[19:13] <lumia900> along side with different ports
[19:14] <k1l_> robby2k: open a terminal, start steam there and see if a error pops up
[19:14] <robby2k> OK
[19:14] <robby2k> nothing
[19:15] <palci> zdravim, vedel a bol by ochotny mi niekto pomoct? nedari sa mi rozchodit FireWire zvukovku
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> robby2k: maybe the #ubuntu-steam guys might know
[19:15] <robby2k> ok
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !sk | palci
[19:15] <robby2k> ty
[19:15] <alami> hello, can any one help me with VGA Problem i have ubuntu 14.10
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !steam | robby2k
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> alami: its best you say whats your specific problem to the channel
[19:16] <squinty> !ask | alami
[19:17] <palci> hi, i have problem - my firewire sound interface wont work, do you can help me?  Thanks
[19:17] <alami> lotuspsychje: i can't change the resolution of the screen
[19:18] <alami> and i can't find the package: xserver-xorg-video-sis
[19:18] <alami> with apt-get
[19:18] <flexus> palci: can you do some lspci | grep FireWire  ?
[19:18] <N3sh> hello!
[19:18] <flexus> palci: some dmesg | grep -i firewire  too
[19:19] <N3sh> is this the right place to ask for help to install Ubuntu on my mac?
[19:19] <N3sh> I just can't seem to nail it
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> !mac | N3sh
[19:19] <N3sh> went over there
[19:19] <N3sh> I got the page up and checking it
[19:19] <hey_joe> N3sh: what hardware
[19:19] <N3sh> main problem is to get mac to recognize the USB as bootable and install ubuntu
[19:19] <N3sh> macbook 3,1
[19:19] <alami> can any one help me to install xserver-xorg-video-sis
[19:20] <N3sh> I got rEFIt and tried both with unet and manually
[19:20] <N3sh> both windows and osx
[19:20] <tck9> i'm trying to install libfuse-dev with 'apt install libfuse-dev' but am getting a message about unmet dependency (libfuse-dev depends libselinux-dev).. is there a way to resolve this?
[19:20] <tck9> using ubuntu 14.04
[19:20] <N3sh> I just installed Debian in a similar way (didn't work because of hardware support)
[19:20] <hey_joe> N3sh: dont use a 3rd party loader... not necessary and will just confuse things
[19:20] <N3sh> my macbook supports up to 10.10
[19:20] <hey_joe> N3sh: hardest part i remember was getting the actual usb bootable
[19:20] <N3sh> I got the 10.04
[19:20] <hey_joe> no DVD drive?
[19:21] <N3sh> yeah but no dvd to brun :P
[19:21] <N3sh> burn}
[19:21] <hey_joe> awe
[19:21] <N3sh> weird because debian booted just fine
[19:21] <palci> flexus: http://pastebin.com/fx0NpLk9
[19:21] <hey_joe> what ISO you using?
[19:21] <N3sh> even using unet
[19:21] <hey_joe> the desktop 10.04?
[19:21] <N3sh> ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[19:21] <hey_joe> x86 or amd64?
[19:21] <N3sh> for intel
[19:21] <hey_joe> k
[19:21] <N3sh> x86
[19:21] <hey_joe> and then your using disk utility in some fashion?
[19:22] <N3sh> well formatted the stick with 1 part in MS-DOS
[19:22] <hey_joe> you wouldnt happen to have a Windows installer DVD/CD would you?
[19:22] <N3sh> did the same old dd if of
[19:22] <palci> flexus: http://pastebin.com/zyMnReWA
[19:22] <hey_joe> gotcha
[19:22] <N3sh> mmm
[19:22] <N3sh> perhaps
[19:22] <flexus> palci aplay -l and aplay -L
[19:22] <N3sh> somewhere
[19:22] <squinty> alami:  use software manager or synaptic package manager or apt-get  etc to install that package
[19:22] <hey_joe> N3sh: stick that in, make sure it boots whilst holding "c" or "command-c" (forget)
[19:23] <N3sh> not sure though :P
[19:23] <hey_joe> N3sh: is there a nother PC running linux or windows you can create the installer from?
[19:23] <N3sh> yep
[19:23] <palci> flexus: there is only integrated HDA
[19:23] <N3sh> I did the Debian one from my windows machine
[19:23] <hey_joe> N3sh: have you used unetbootin?
[19:23] <N3sh> using unet
[19:23] <N3sh> I tried both with unet and without
[19:23] <hey_joe> ah
[19:23] <N3sh> Debian worked with unet and manually
[19:24] <N3sh> so I think the problem is the ISO
[19:24] <alami> squinty: when i run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-sis, i get that the packet not found
[19:24] <flexus> palci: with  cat /proc/asound/cards too right?
[19:24] <hey_joe> N3sh: you can try downloading a new one...
[19:24] <N3sh> even Debian live had problems, Debian full worked
[19:24] <hey_joe> N3sh: however, I recently did a ubuntu install on an xserve2,1
[19:24] <flexus> palci: which model?
[19:24] <bekks> !info xserver-xorg-video-sis
[19:24] <hey_joe> and there was actually a separate ISO for it as it did not utilize some booting method...
[19:24] <alami> bekks: not exist :-)
[19:24] <squinty> alami: are you using a currently supported ubuntu version?  that package exists in trusty
[19:24] <hey_joe> perhaps the macbook 3,1 is at that cusp, altho it seems much newer than my xserve2,1
[19:25] <hey_joe> so i doubt thats it.
[19:25] <N3sh> yeah?
[19:25] <hey_joe> N3sh: i would try one more installer like Mint
[19:25] <palci> flexus: yes, in /proc/asound/cards too.. It is Edirol FA-66 .. One year ago worked fine, but now it is problem..
[19:25] <hey_joe> N3sh: let me dig up the xserve2,1 link about it
[19:25] <N3sh> alright
[19:25] <dj__> how do i restart my gui from terminal?
[19:25] <N3sh> thanks
[19:25] <alami> squinty:DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.10"
[19:25] <hey_joe> N3sh: your using the wrong iso
[19:26] <hey_joe> here
[19:26] <bekks> alami: Well, I think you'll be out of luck not using 12.04
[19:26] <hey_joe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook3-1/Maverick
[19:26] <hey_joe> Intel Mac users will need to download the customized AMD64+Mac .iso disk image due to changes in the EFI boot configuration in Maverick.
[19:26] <hey_joe> has links to the ISO's
[19:26] <alami> bekks: all right
[19:26] <cantoma> hey guys, I am trying to mount a cifs drive. I have managed to do it by doing $ mount -t cifs //ip/files drive/ -o username=blabla,password=blabla. But if I try to replace ip by the domain name then I get the error "mount bad option...". The command is basically: mount -t cifs //domain.name.bla.bla/files. can someone advice what might went wrong? I can ping the domain name and I am getting the ip from that.
[19:26] <N3sh> does it?
[19:26] <hey_joe> N3sh: you may or may not be able to use the unet method to create the installer
[19:26] <alami> thanks bekks
[19:26] <N3sh> there are 2 links
[19:27] <squinty> alami:  fwiw  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-sis&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all
[19:27] <N3sh> all dead
[19:27] <flexus> palci: alsa? pulse? x?
[19:27] <hey_joe> they dead?
[19:27] <hey_joe> shit
[19:27] <hey_joe> one sec
[19:27] <palci> flexus: alsa
[19:27] <alami> squinty: so the packages doesn't exist on 14.10?
[19:27] <hey_joe> N3sh: what about a 14.04 iso?
[19:27] <N3sh> that's why I went back to 10.04 :P
[19:27] <N3sh> already tried it
[19:28] <hey_joe> let me see if i can find the newer iso for mac
[19:28] <hey_joe> ported
[19:28] <N3sh> that's what I am having problem with :P
[19:28] <palci> flexus: sorry, but im no idea, how i can switch between pulse and alsa
[19:28] <N3sh> my current iso: ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[19:28] <hey_joe> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[19:28] <squinty> alami:  doesn\t look like it :(
[19:28] <hey_joe> let me see if i can find 14.04.4
[19:28] <flexus> palci: if you install pulse it will be a layer over alsa
[19:29] <flexus> palci: you can do aplay /usr/share/sounds/bla
[19:29] <hey_joe> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[19:29] <alami> squinty:bekks: thanks you so much for the info, can you suggest me what distro to install on this old laptop?
[19:29] <hey_joe> N3sh: /\
[19:29] <flexus> palci: lower volume before
[19:29] <hey_joe> N3sh: unetbootin method to create may not work, may have to use the method that utilizes dd and disk utility on the mac
[19:29] <flexus> palci: look if amixer shows up
[19:29] <N3sh> lovely hey_joe
[19:30] <hey_joe> N3sh: but worth a shot
[19:30] <N3sh> I'll try unet
[19:30] <N3sh> then go for the boring one
[19:30] <N3sh> :D
[19:30] <hey_joe> notice the +mac on the iso
[19:30] <hey_joe> lol
[19:30] <hey_joe> good luck
[19:30] <N3sh> yeah, that's why I am hopeful now :P
[19:30] <palci> flexus: Then it is pulse active now... But why is see only "Alsa" in ubuntu sound configuration card? Volume levels is lovered
[19:30] <squinty> alami: using a 10 year old acer laptop with 4 gigs here running 14.04 fine  fwiw
[19:30] <hey_joe> it worked great for me on the xserve2,1 - but i stomached it and just put OSX back on it. was able to upgrade the box to lion which is good enough for me
[19:30] <flexus> you can type pulseaudio and check
[19:30] <hey_joe> then installed brew etc..
[19:31] <palci> flexus: No, there is only Intel HDA in amixer :/
[19:31] <hey_joe> thing has 32GB ram tho, makes a killer minecraft server :)
[19:31] <flexus> palci: ok
[19:31] <flexus> i thought firewire hda
[19:31] <squinty> alami:  afaik, sis cards are pretty well outdated
[19:31] <OerHeks> N3sh, no need for the mac iso, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro3-1/Trusty
[19:32] <squinty> flexus:  #ubuntu-studio rascals might be more familiar with firewire if no solution forthcoming here
[19:32] <N3sh> eh? OerHerks
[19:32] <N3sh> eh? OerHeks
[19:32] <flexus> squinty: why not..
[19:32] <alami> squinty: arch retum i686, should install amd64 iso, or i386?
[19:33] <OerHeks> N3sh, take some time to read, before asking eh?
[19:33] <N3sh_> I tried 10.04 already
[19:33] <bekks> alami: what exactly return i686?
[19:33] <N3sh_> but didn't work...
[19:33] <squinty> flexus:  why not what?
[19:33] <alami> bekks: the arch command
[19:33] <N3sh_> OerHeks can you be more precise?
[19:34] <bekks> alami: and?
[19:34] <flexus> palci: going #ubuntu-studio.. if you do tell them kernel module needed, you may need some modprobe
[19:34] <bekks> alami: It just means that the current system is i686 - it doednt tell you wether your system is capable of 64bit.
[19:34] <alami> bekks: so wich iso i have to pick up? amd 64? or i386
[19:34] <bekks> alami: Which hardware do you have?
[19:34] <flexus> palci: try finding edirol fa-66 kernel module and load it by hand
[19:35] <alami> bekks:AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-30
[19:35] <bekks> alami: That CPU is capable of 64bit.
[19:35] <alami> it's support both
[19:35] <alami> bekks: i have only 1Gb RAM so do i have to install amd64.iso or i386.iso?
[19:36] <bekks> alami: Unless you have 32bit CPU, you should choose 64bit.
[19:36] <bekks> *a
[19:36] <alami> thanks you so much
[19:36] <circ-user-W9K0G> čau..!
[19:37] <squinty> alami: suggest you don't try running ubuntu... might want to take a look at lubuntu (has less memory requirements)
[19:38] <flexus> palci: maybe sudo apt-get install multimedia-firewire  -look for ffado too
[19:39] <flexus> afk eating
[19:39] <palci> flexus: both off them is already installed.. ffado, 1394 drivers.
[19:40] <jazzed> Looking to get apparmor to allow access to /var/run/docker.socket. Any ideas?
[19:46] <echo-kilo-oscar> Hello. I'm trying to get proper lid behavior for my new laptop. I'd like the screen to turn off but nothing else. I use xmonad and not gnome or unity. Right now, I have a script in /etc/acpi/events that calls xscreensaver -activate and I have xscreensaver just blank the screen. But last time I closed my laptop, at some point the screen must have turned itself back on somehow. Does anyone know how to figure out what woke it up?
[19:59] <palci> flexus: ffado found the FA-66, but alsa no..
[20:11] <flexus> palci: some guess: backports, but cant help you at this one
[20:12] <herren> hello guys. need help with ubuntu 14.04 lts . i am using mobile broadband ( my isp is vodafone ) connection with network manager to connect to internet . and i want to change dns . how can i do that
[20:12] <N3sh_> hey_joe still nothing
[20:12] <N3sh_> :(
[20:12] <N3sh_> cannot run the installer for Ubuntu on my macbook
[20:13] <palci> flexus, anyway, Thank you! :)
[20:14] <N3sh_> does anyone know how to install Ubuntu on a frikking macbook?:
[20:14] <N3sh_> I cannot see the bootable USB
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: apple will love you if you do :-)
[20:14] <herren> i  found a website , explains changing dns
[20:14] <PCatinean> hey guys
[20:14] <flexus> palci: sorry
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: what sort of MacBook?
[20:14] <herren> must i edit this file /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[20:14] <N3sh_> mbp3,1
[20:14] <PCatinean> How does one tether internet connection through usb cable from ubuntu 14.10 to a HTC phone?
[20:14] <N3sh_> followed the guide(s)
[20:14] <PCatinean> running android kit-kat
[20:15] <N3sh_> still unable to see it
[20:15] <N3sh_> used the amd+mac.iso still unable
[20:15] <N3sh_> MBR partition or GUID one
[20:15] <N3sh_> STILL unable!
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> herren: you can edit /etc/resolv.conf to set it for the session you have, or did you want it permanent?
[20:15] <N3sh_> but with Debian full iso it worked (not Debian itself though)
[20:15] <palci> flexus: nevermind :) I try search for solution from users with similar problem but another card...
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:15] <N3sh_> I don't know what else to do all the guides are the same and it doesn't work
[20:16] <herren> ActionParsnip, i have edited /etc/resolv.conf but i cant connect some websites
[20:16] <N3sh_> not really but I am using a downloader and I've downloaded about 5 ISO's
[20:16] <palci> flexus: And sorry for my poor english too :)
[20:16] <OerHeks> N3sh, told you, no need for the mac iso, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro3-1/Trusty
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: is it to dual boot or just Ubuntu as the sole OS?
[20:16] <N3sh_> dual boot
[20:16] <N3sh_> I have rEFIt installed
[20:16] <herren> i want to edit dns permanently and my isp should use my custom dns
[20:16] <N3sh_> and GRUB as a side
[20:16] <bekks> N3sh_: So did you download the official ubuntu iso for mac?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> herren: can you ping the host and get an IP back from the sites you cannot access?
[20:16] <N3sh_> I went for this: ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[20:17] <N3sh_> this: ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: ah, never used refit. I dont buy Apple rubbish
[20:17] <N3sh_> lol
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: are there no guides on YouTube?
[20:17] <herren> yeah i can get the  ip ActionParsnip
[20:17] <N3sh_> I found guides even on ubuntu
[20:17] <N3sh_> the official site
[20:17] <herren> next step ActionParsnip ??
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> herren: then your issue isn't DNS
[20:17] <N3sh_> they all refer to the 'standard' way and it's just not working for me
[20:18] <herren> hmm how can i connect then?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> herren: do you use a proxy for web access?
[20:18] <herren> i dont use a proxy
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> herren: what browsers have you tried?
[20:18] <herren> i am using usb modem ( isp is vodafone)
[20:18] <herren> firefox
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> herren: tried any others?
[20:18] <herren> my ubuntu is newly installed 14.04 32 bit lts
[20:19] <herren> no  i did not try . btw ActionParsnip no proxy settings are dones in firefox
[20:19] <N3sh_> ActionParsnip: can I boot from the USB using GRUB?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> herren: then try another browser, like Chrome/ium. If the sites show there then it is a Firefox or Firefox config issue
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: sure, grub can boot most things.
[20:20] <herren> ActionParsnip, when i right click on netwokr manager and click connection information my primary dns and secondary dns are set by isp
[20:20] <herren> ok ActionParsnip i will download and try chrome/ium
[20:20] <Guest90> Need a little advise on changing out a suse samba server.
[20:20] <N3sh_> mmm that might help
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> herren: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest90: wassup?
[20:21] <herren> 51mbs?
[20:21] <herren> ok ActionParsnip i will download and try
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> herren: it is a full web browser...
[20:21] <herren> if i cant connect i will try to type here
[20:21] <herren> thank you so much for help
[20:22] <Guest90> pretty simple setup I think. 12 windows pc's using smb shares on the existing server that should be replaced due to age. Was wondering if ububtu server edition is the way to go ?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> herren: no worries, you are patiemt and reasonable, so deserve all the support you can want :-)
[20:22] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Don't use the +mac iso if you're trying to boot via USB. The +mac iso just removes UEFI support, and many intel macs only support booting from USB via EFI.
[20:22] <herren> ActionParsnip, i know but package is too big . also in ubuntu 13.xx i was able to connect websites . i was only editing /etc/resolv.con file and everything was ok
[20:23] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I am lost, really... I tried +mac without mac. With rEFIt without it
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest90: sure, just copy over smb.conf and restart samba. You can then rsync over your data, or restore from your backups. Make your Samba users and done.
[20:23] <N3sh_> can I use chainloader to boot the USB stick?
[20:23] <herren> but when i installed ubuntu 14.04 ( a clean install from dvd) i tried to change /etc/resolv.conf file but my isp is overwriting it ( afaik) and i cant use google dns
[20:23] <N3sh_> Jordan_U
[20:24] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: How did you prepare the USB drive when you used ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso (assuming you used that exact iso)?
[20:24] <Guest90> perfect, thank you. Appreciate the help !
[20:24] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: it was written to use this: ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[20:24] <N3sh_> not amd
[20:24] <N3sh_> since it's intel based
[20:25] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Those are *very* old instructions, a lot has changed. If this has a 64 bit CPU then I would recommend starting by trying ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso .
[20:25] <OerHeks> AMD was the first vendor with a 64 bit cpu backwards compatible with 32 bit.
[20:26] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: AMD64 is the term used for all 64 bit x86 CPUs, AMD devloped the architecture first but Intel has adopted it for its 64 bit CPUs.
[20:26] <MoonLove> please, help no sound, and pulseaudio don't start
[20:27] <Robdude> I have a large 3tb external harddrive that I on PC, Laptop and PS3.  The PS3 does not support encrypted drives and I don't want to perform a full disk encryption/decryption every time I want to connect the drive to the PS3.  Is there anything I could do to make the disk 'less readable' that would be easily reverseable?
[20:28] <bekks> Robdude: No.
[20:28] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: ok downloading the iso. What next? Unet? Or dd?
[20:28] <N3sh_> I really want to make it work....
[20:29] <herren> thank you so much guys for help
[20:29] <herren> tc all
[20:30] <MoonLove> please, help no sound, and pulseaudio don't start
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: what do you do with the ISO file to put it on the USB stick?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: aw man :(
[20:31] <N3sh_> ActionParsnip: me?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: yes. How do you put the ISO on the USB stick?
[20:31] <N3sh_> either dd or unet
[20:31] <N3sh_> so either from mac or from windows
[20:31] <N3sh_> debian from windows worked fine
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: have you tried the pendrivelinux application?
[20:31] <N3sh_> ubuntu just doesn't want to work
[20:31] <MoonLove> ActionParsnip, trying to repair the sound, I make defect the pulseaudio, any help ?
[20:32] <N3sh_> oh yeah, I know that
[20:32] <N3sh_> let me try
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: I tried to help last time, I'm not very good at sound issues, never had an issue
[20:32] <N3sh_> yeah the same :P
[20:32] <N3sh_> I call it unet
[20:32] <N3sh_> I use that
[20:33] <TLoFP> hi, how can I prevent sudoers from changing root password?
[20:33] <Robdude> Is there no way to delete the partition metadata (and restore it later) so the drive would appear unformatted, or something similar
[20:33] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Looks like Ubuntu's iso images don't contain an EFI System Partition, and so just dding to a USB drive won't get you a [U]EFI bootable drive. I've been meaning to see if unetbootin actually makes proper UEFI bootable drives for a long time but have still haven't gotten to it :(
[20:33] <MoonLove>  please  help no sound, and pulseaudio don't start
[20:34] <N3sh_> yeah
[20:34] <N3sh_> I am trying to bot it now and it says 'invalid EFI file path' (from GRUB)
[20:35] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: To increase the chances of Unetbooin working, first use GParted to change the USB drive's disk label to GPT (rather than msdos) using the "Create new partition table" option, then create a single fat32 partition and make it a UEFI System Partition.
[20:35] <N3sh_> the thing is that I could install Debian
[20:35] <N3sh_> without any problem
[20:35] <N3sh_> perhaps debian contains the EFI?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> TLoFP: you can define groups in sudoers to allow users to only be allowed to run some commands using sudo
[20:35] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: So you are at a grub-efi prompt currently?
[20:35] <N3sh_> well the Debian GRUB
[20:35] <N3sh_> I'm trying using chainloader +1
[20:35] <g1> MoonLove: Try by removing the folder ~/.pulse or ~/.config/pulse and restart the system
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> TLoFP: so you can give users a handfil of commands which doesn't include passwd and they won't be able to use it :-)
[20:35] <N3sh_> but it doesn't work
[20:36] <N3sh_> it says that the EFI is missing
[20:36] <N3sh_> like you said
[20:36] <TLoFP> ActionParsnip, won't that prevent them from changing their own password?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: That won't work with UEFI, you need to provide chainloader with a path to an efi image. Except that the better solution is just to use configfile to load Ubuntu's grub.cfg
[20:37] <kleanchap> I am using Linux Mint (off shoot of Ubuntu).  Is there anywhere I can get some help with dnsmasq?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> TLoFP: make sure you have a terminal where you have ran: sudo -i  , so that you can repair the file as root. The sudoers file is very sensitive
[20:37] <N3sh_> so what do I do?
[20:37] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: So, first, make sure that you have ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso on a USB drive, created with Unetbootin. Make absolutely sure it's that image, you don't want 32 bit (unless you actually have 32 bit firmware, but that's unlikely so we'll not consider that possiblility at the moment...).
[20:37] <DJones> !mint | kleanchap
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> TLoFP: no as a user can change their own password without sudo, so the settings in sudoers wont impact
[20:37] <N3sh_> I have 64bit
[20:37] <N3sh_> no worries
[20:38] <N3sh_> Im going to use unet and install it on the drive and update you
[20:38] <N3sh_> give me 5/10 min
[20:38] <N3sh_> the iso is almost here
[20:38] <MoonLove> gl how can I remove this folder ? with which commands?
[20:38] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: how about the GPT partition?
[20:38] <g1> MoonLove: rm -rf should do
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: have you tried a different distribution like Mandriva / Fedora / Debian to see if you get sound there?
[20:39] <MoonLove> gl rm -rf foldername          ?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> g1: if you killall pulseaudio , you can remove the folders.
[20:39] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Not needed since you already have a working grub-efi to start from. GPT would only help if you needed to boot the computer directly from USB, rather than through grub.
[20:39] <g1> MoonLove: Yep. BTW you've never got it working or did it suddenly stop working?
[20:39] <N3sh_> remember that the GRUB is the Debian grub of the previous installation
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse* ~/.config/pulse*
[20:40] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: That's fine.
[20:40] <N3sh_> so I have rEFIt then I select the efi/grub and I get that
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> g1: ^
[20:40] <MoonLove> ActionParsnip  no, only ubuntu, my first linux install :)
[20:40] <N3sh_> ok
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> g1: you don't need force
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: may be worth experimenting with others to test
[20:40] <g1> ActionParsnip: Yeah. Recursive is enough
[20:41] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who helped me out last night, I took a break and got some sleep and did the BIOS update a minute ago, now its reporting 4.8 g Memory
[20:41] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: installing 'ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso' on my USB using unet
[20:41] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Never had this much RAM before...lol
[20:43] <flexus> MoonLove: pulseaudio -k
[20:43] <flexus> MoonLove: search for "norespawn"
[20:44] <TimeVirus> I would like to DL Ubuntu but this laptop has serious trouble with the Unity DE - I would like to know weather Gnome 2 or 3 would be okay. How would I go about getting Ubuntu for this machine?
[20:44] <Naphatul> does this look ok for a raid 1 setup? https://bpaste.net/show/e0e0611c4153
[20:44] <bekks> ThaSwapMeetPimp: 4.8G? Which DIMMs do you use there?
[20:44] <MoonLove> flexus where should I search?
[20:44] <pipipipi> hi
[20:45] <TimeVirus> google?
[20:45] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:45] <Naphatul> fstab here : https://bpaste.net/show/27dea3f6cd67
[20:45] <bekks> TimeVirus: Install Ubuntu, install the desktop environment you like.
[20:45] <flexus> MoonLove: if you want to reinstall pulse and get rid of all settings first set "norespawn" in pulse
[20:45] <flexus> or purge pulse
[20:45] <flexus> apt-get purge
[20:46] <TimeVirus> I'm at the Ubuntu home page
[20:46] <DJones> TimeVirus: Try Lubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu as an alternative
[20:46] <MoonLove> flexus how set "norespawn"?
[20:46] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> I have 3 1 gig and 1 2 gig, I dont know what you mean by DIMMS necessarily
[20:46] <TimeVirus> KDE?
[20:46] <TimeVirus> I've got Lubuntu and its too thin
[20:46] <DJones> TimeVirus: Kubuntu is KDE, Lubuntu is LXDE and Xubuntu is XFCE
[20:46] <TimeVirus> too ....
[20:46] <Naphatul> here's the array aswell: https://bpaste.net/show/64bb56df4134
[20:46] <TimeVirus> ah i c
[20:46] <g1> TimeVirus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
[20:47] <TimeVirus> ok
[20:47] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: completed. Now trying to boot it...
[20:47] <flexus> MoonLove:  /etc/pulse/client.conf, autospawn=no
[20:47] <TimeVirus> very nice guys thanks for the tips
[20:48] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: now it looks like it's recognized....
[20:48] <N3sh_> let's see
[20:49] <MoonLove> flexus i deleted /etc/pulse
[20:49] <flexus> rm -r ?
[20:49] <flexus> *open hand*
[20:49] <flexus> *shrug*
[20:49] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> man everything is moving quick now, hey my swap is only 8 gigs, I cant really resize the partition cause I dont have enough room to backup the files from the partition I would need to take room from (and dont really have the room for that anyways) on my 3TB external, should it still function fine with an 8 gig swap using 5 g ram?
[20:50] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: it's actually all black, after I selected 'Install'
[20:50] <MoonLove> flexus pulseaudio can not be found
[20:50] <TimeVirus> I've heard there are a # of problems with 14.10 and so I'm thinking 14.04 is probably for me is this wise? I can update to 14.10 if I fell brave yes?
[20:50] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> not my external, my system
[20:50] <TimeVirus> feel*
[20:51] <squinty> TimeVirus: yes
[20:51] <TimeVirus> cool then
[20:51] <flexus> MoonLove: didnt you want that?
[20:52] <MoonLove> flexus I tried to repair my sound, I have no sound, at all, with envy24...any help?
[20:52] <flexus> MoonLove: sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[20:52] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Did you boot directly from the USB drive or via Debian's grub? If the former, did you boot it via EFI or via BIOS?
[20:52] <flexus> &&
[20:53] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I tried to boot it directly from the USB (it showed up now as EFI Boot)
[20:53] <MarcGuayUp> Hi folks.  I had a problem the other day with my system drive and managed to back up the /home/ folder before the drive crapped out.
[20:53] <N3sh_> but after asking if I wanted to try it or install
[20:53] <N3sh_> it went all black
[20:53] <N3sh_> it gave me an error before
[20:53] <N3sh_> let me try again
[20:53] <MarcGuayUp> I've got a new install up and running now, is it cool to just copy the home dir backup over the new one?
[20:54] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: could not open "\EFI\BOOT\failback
[20:54] <MoonLove> flexus [pulseaudio] module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
[20:54] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: I don't understand. When do you get that error message?
[20:54] <N3sh_> now I am in the ubuntu GRUB from the USB stick
[20:54] <MoonLove> flexus and other error messages...
[20:54] <N3sh_> when I boot from USB
[20:54] <N3sh_> now I can either Try, Install OEM or Check
[20:55] <N3sh_> if I go for Install it just hangs
[20:56] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: move to the "try" entry and press 'e' to edit it. Then remove the words "quiet splash" and press ctrl+X to boot your modified entry.
[20:56] <MoonLove> flexus Failed to load module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="1" card_name="alsa_card.1" namereg_fail=false tsched=yes fixed_latency_range=no ignore_dB=no deferred_volume=yes use_ucm=yes card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
[20:57] <TimeVirus> can I install an Ubuntu to my external HDD and have grub on a USB Flash drive? You see, this laptop has trouble booting an external HDD but no trouble at all with a flash drive - it has nothing to do with HDD spin-up times either
[20:57] <squinty> MoonLove:  sent this yesterday but not sure if you saw it  https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/oneiric/mudita24/    to see if it is available in your repo's type (or copy/paste)  apt-cache search mudita24
[20:57] <TimeVirus> I dont get why this trouble exists but it does
[20:57] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: black
[20:58] <N3sh_> oooh
[20:58] <TimeVirus> use the flash drive pick the drive to boot from kind of thing
[20:58] <bekks> TimeVirus: Is your laptop able to boot from an USB HDD at all?
[20:58] <N3sh_> now something is coming up
[20:58] <N3sh_> last thing: fb: conflicting fb hw usage nouveaufb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver
[20:58] <flexus> MoonLove: did you reinstall pulse?
[20:59] <TimeVirus> it does yes but I have to use Boot-Repair-Disk before each try if you know what I mean
[20:59] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Yes you can, but we can probably get you working with just the external spinning rust. What happens when you try to boot from the external?
[20:59] <MoonLove> flexus YES
[20:59] <N3sh_> and that's it from the moment, Jordan_U
[20:59] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:59] <bekks> TimeVirus: I have no clue what you mean.
[20:59] <MoonLove> flexus with purge and install
[20:59] <flexus> MoonLove: give full output
[20:59] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Keep waiting, hopefully you'll get a Desktop eventually.
[20:59] <TimeVirus> Jordan_U, you and I have been over this a few times with no success
[21:00] <N3sh_> it seems to just not work anymore
[21:00] <N3sh_> the cursor is not blinking
[21:00] <bekks> TimeVirus: From what I can read, it soubds like you always have to "repair" your installation on the USB HDD, but always install grub to the wrong device.
[21:00] <MoonLove> flexus pulseaudio
[21:00] <MoonLove> E: [pulseaudio] module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
[21:00] <MoonLove> E: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="1" card_name="alsa_card.1" namereg_fail=false tsched=yes fixed_latency_range=no ignore_dB=no deferred_volume=yes use_ucm=yes card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
[21:00] <N3sh_> just like with Debian
[21:00] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Refresh my memory :)
[21:00] <TimeVirus> bekks no it gets installed to the external HDD each time
[21:00] <flexus> MoonLove: restart pulse
[21:01] <MoonLove> squinty   my card is ice1724 and this dont woerks
[21:01] <MoonLove> flexus how?
[21:01] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I'll got to take a shower and come back. What do I do if it's still stuck?
[21:01] <TimeVirus> lemme see if I can find my pastebins
[21:01] <bekks> TimeVirus: Then it wouldnt be necessary to repair it all the time.
[21:01] <N3sh_> we got SO close!
[21:01] <flexus> pulseaudio --start
[21:02] <MoonLove> flexus now pulseaudio
[21:02] <MoonLove> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[21:02] <MoonLove> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Απέτυχε το pa_pid_file_create().
[21:02] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: If this fails we can try booting it via BIOS.
[21:02] <TimeVirus> bah
[21:03] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I'll try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169912/fb-conflicting-fb-hw-usage-inteldrmfb-vs-efi-vga-removing-generic-driver
[21:03] <TimeVirus> my bookmarks are elsewhere on the internal
[21:03] <N3sh_> as it really seems stuck
[21:04] <flexus> MoonLove: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[21:04] <MoonLove> flexus Απέτυχε=failed
[21:04] <flexus> i dont speak kyrilic
[21:04] <ararob> shouldn't it be possible to automount an iso via fstab? i just couldn't get it to work, ended up autostarting a bash script that mounts it instead
[21:05] <MoonLove> flexus aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[21:05] <MoonLove> Playing Κυματομορφή '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Ρυθμός 48000 Hz, Mono
[21:05] <MoonLove> flexus but no sound :(
[21:05] <bekks> ararob: /home/USER/ISOFILE.iso /home/USER/ISOFILE_iso udf,iso9660 user,auto,loop 0 0
[21:05] <flexus> MoonLove: are speakers switched on ?
[21:06] <flexus> dont ask
[21:06] <ararob> bekks, that's exactly what i did, and it mounts it, but it tries to do it two times it seems
[21:06] <ararob> and the second mount gets stuck on the desktop
[21:06] <MoonLove> flexus yes in windos7 (dualboot) its OK
[21:07] <flexus> MoonLove: ok
[21:07] <jhutchins> MoonLove: If you preceed the command with LC_ALL=C the output will be in English - LC_ALL=C aplay /usr/share/shounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[21:07] <flexus> MoonLove: whats set in amixer?
[21:09] <MoonLove> flexus LC_ALL=C aplay /usr/share/shounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[21:09] <MoonLove> flexus  Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[21:09] <TimeVirus> when installing the Gnome Ubuntu onto my flashy so that I can make sure I have at least a live version ready to go I can use a 'persistence' file so that when I leave this wired connection to the repos my b43 wifi card will work, yes?
[21:10] <TimeVirus> yes ok
[21:10] <MoonLove> flexus amixer??? what is this?
[21:10] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Yes.
[21:10] <squinty> MoonLove:  alsamixer
[21:11] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: What happens when you try to boot from the external? Have you tried making a separate small /boot/ partition at the beginning of the spinning rust drive?
[21:11] <TimeVirus> lol
[21:11] <TimeVirus> no I havent tried doing that manually if thats what you mean
[21:12] <MoonLove> flexus with alsamixer -c 1    the card is set to MPU-401 UART
[21:13] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: nomodeset did the trick :O
[21:13] <TimeVirus> ok Jordan_U  if I try to boot that external HDD without first using Ubuntu's "Boot-Repair-Disk" utility first the boot will fail
[21:13] <TimeVirus> but if I do use the utility it works
[21:13] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Great. The only downside is that you won't have any GPU acceleration.
[21:13] <TimeVirus> until I need to go around again
[21:13] <jhutchins> TimeVirus: If you just do a regular filesystem install to the drive it will most likely run painfully slow.  You could investigate http://pendrivelinux.com/ for configurations that use squashfs and load to RAM for better speed.
[21:14] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: Im installing this ONLY to use emulation station. I need some sort of graphics going on...
[21:14] <MoonLove> please, help no soun in ubuntu :)
[21:14] <TimeVirus> nice
[21:14] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: can I fix this after installing it?
[21:14] <MoonLove> please, help no sound in ubuntu :)
[21:14] <TimeVirus> I like that idea hutchins
[21:14] <jhutchins> MoonLove: Please stop repeating that.
[21:14] <jhutchins> MoonLove: You've been given DAYS of help.
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: grab the ISO for Fedora, use unetbootin and put it on a USB stick. Boot to it and try some sounds
[21:17] <TimeVirus> ok I must to go for now you guys have given me some good stuff to look into
[21:17] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Possibly. Let's see if booting via BIOS allows you to use the Radeon drivers though first. Please boot back into either Debain or Ubuntu's grub.
[21:17] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: Im installing it on the disk atm
[21:17] <N3sh_> just to be done with it
[21:18] <N3sh_> once I got a running installation, I can download stuff
[21:20] <flexus> MoonLove: begin with that stuff: aplay -l ; aplay -L; cat /proc/asound/cards pavucontrol
[21:20] <MoonLove> flexus aplay -l
[21:20] <MoonLove> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[21:20] <MoonLove> compyuser@compy1:~$
[21:21] <MoonLove> flexus aplay -L
[21:21] <MoonLove> default
[21:21] <MoonLove>     Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
[21:21] <MoonLove> null
[21:21] <MoonLove>     Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
[21:21] <MoonLove> pulse
[21:21] <unopaste> MoonLove you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:24] <jhutchins> MoonLove: Man, you just don't learn, do you?
[21:25] <jhutchins> flexus: So we've been trying to troubleshoot alsa for three(?) days now, and suddenly we find out he's running pulse in front of it.
[21:26] <jhutchins> flexus: I have no idea how to troubleshoot pulse, all I've ever done is remove it.
[21:26] <MoonLove> jhutchins, 1 day, and i m a rookie :)
[21:27] <jhutchins> MoonLove: Everybody starts somewhere.  The trick is to learn as you go and not keep starting over from scratch.
[21:27] <flexus> jhutchins: i didnt watch too much, sorry
[21:28] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: back
[21:28] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: trying to launch Ubuntu
[21:28] <flexus> jhutchins: i am confused in MoonLoves problem
[21:28] <jhutchins> MoonLove: http://askubuntu.com/questions/462503/ubuntu-14-04-sound-suddenly-stopped-working-reboot-did-not-fix <- please read and see if any of that applies to your system.
[21:29] <jhutchins> MoonLove: An easy way to see if the problem is with pulse is to run lubuntu from a live CD (it doesn't use pulse).  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[21:30] <geoffmcc> on a VPS with 512mb ram should i use 32 or 64 bit. i know x64 will use a little more of the limited ram. Not sure if will improve performance
[21:30] <jhutchins> MoonLove: If that doesn't work, this should keep you busy for the rest of the day: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[21:30] <jhutchins> geoffmcc: What are you doing with it?
[21:31] <geoffmcc> jhutchins: webserver and node w/ node-red
[21:31] <daftykins> geoffmcc: 32-bit
[21:31] <daftykins> 512MB is terrible for that though
[21:32] <arun_> guys, is there ssl support on openssl in ircd-hybrid now for trusty?
[21:33] <geoffmcc> daftykins: web on one server, node on another, shouldnt 512 be okay?
[21:33] <daftykins> arun_: that sounds a little too specific a question to be useful asking here, why not locate a channel / website for said program?
[21:33] <daftykins> geoffmcc: dunno, not familiar with that
[21:35] <geoffmcc> daftykins: im confused then. what did u mean by "512mb is terrible for that though"?
[21:36] <daftykins> geoffmcc: nevermind.
[21:36] <arun_> !info ircd-hybrid
[21:36] <arun_> daftykins: ^^
[21:36] <daftykins> arun_: i don't see what point you're trying to make?
[21:37] <hroi> I did an update to my 14.04 couple of days ago
[21:37] <hroi> now I suspect my nvidia driver has been replaced
[21:37] <hroi> how can I check this?
[21:38] <daftykins> replaced with what?
[21:38] <daftykins> "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:38] <OerHeks> hroi, how did you install that nvidia driver?
[21:38] <daftykins> (pastebinit will need to be installed)
[21:38] <jhutchins> flexus: MoonLove was getting no sound, but everythign seemed to be working in alsa.  Didn't mean to run him off, I hope those resources solve his problem.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: And?
[21:39] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: Ubuntu is up an running. No 3D acceleration (sadness) and no wireless (double-sadness)
[21:39] <N3sh_> working on the wireless drivers right now
[21:39] <jhutchins> arun_: I would expect the answer to your question to be in either the changelog or the documentation.
[21:39] <OerHeks> jhutchins, Moonlove was here yesterday too, he did so much tweaks/fixes that i wonder if new fixes will work.
[21:39] <N3sh_> I seem unlucky with this and the b43 don't work with my mac
[21:39] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Did you try the Additional Drivers tool?
[21:40] <hroi> daftykins, OerHeks :  thanks, heres my dpkg output :   http://pastebin.com/4QgXQaFX
[21:40] <daftykins> ok so nvidia-331
[21:40] <jhutchins> OerHeks: Everybody who helped him earlier seemed to be focused on alsa - I don't know if he said he wasn't running pulse or why we overlooked that, but it turns out he is.
[21:41] <hroi> daftykins, do you think my system updated to 331 from some older version?
[21:42] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: no because Im offline atm
[21:42] <hroi> daftykins,  here's my Xorg log:   http://pastebin.com/nYzvDDNQ
[21:43] <rooisto47> I'm trying to get an epson all-in-one (stylus DX7450) I found this interesting thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167119 but one of the link to the driver is dead, so I can't find it :s can you help me ?
[21:43] <daftykins> hroi: sadly my crystal ball hasn't been despatched from Canonical yet, so i have no idea of looking into the past to work out what you were running before.
[21:43] <rooisto47> *get it to work of course
[21:43] <hroi> daftykins, :) ok sorry
[21:43] <daftykins> hroi: seems to be working just fine though, is there an actual problem?
[21:44] <jhutchins> rooisto47: I don't have a multifunction device myself, but what I've seen work in the past is xsane for the scanner function and cups for the printer.
[21:44] <flexus> jhutchins: didnt see the full aplay -l output
[21:44] <jhutchins> rooisto47: Treat them like separate devices.
[21:45] <rooisto47> jhutchins, "xsane" let me give that a look, thank you
[21:45] <hroi> daftykins, I'm using the CUDA processing on my nvidia card... after upgrade it is not available to the software I use
[21:46] <hroi> daftykins, that is blender -- possible it is a blender issue
[21:46] <namidark> when running ` apt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install apt ` (for example), manually on the command line it works, however when running it from a script it fails saying "dpkg: error: need an action option" - any ideas?
[21:46] <zaxxi> will sleep 999999 in rc.local block booting or is it threaded?
[21:46] <hroi> daftykins, that is blender -- possible it is a blender issue
[21:46] <jhutchins> hroi: If the kernel got upgraded you may need to re-install the nvidia drivers (not sure how ubuntu handles that).
[21:46] <hroi> jhutchins, ok
[21:47] <hroi> jhutchins, I should be able to revert to maybe a more older nvidia version
[21:47] <daftykins> hroi: might be missing some libraries that match up with that driver version, maybe have a quick look at CUDA with v331
[21:47] <daftykins> jhutchins: rather than throwing guesses out there, you could see above that everything is working just fine from logs ;)
[21:47] <anon_> can you guys direct me to a solution of cracking keyring in xubuntu - i received a giveaway that seems to be a onion os monitoring turner corp
[21:49] <anon_> it is a leftover machine from lazytown and  it has several monitoring apps installed
[21:49] <bekks> anon_: Ask the person who has the password for that keyring.
[21:50] <OerHeks> cracking keyring, asked by
[21:51] <OerHeks> anon?
[21:51] <anon_> cannot be contacted - is in us at the moment - his setup on this machine sounds impressive but i am unable to cat logs to verify he does not posess sensitive info
[21:51] <hroi> daftykins, ok thanks... best bet is to reinstall nvidia thanks!
[21:52] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: anyway, the additional drivers didn't seem to say anything
[21:52] <anon_> please note that - live cd chroot method to change root has worked so far - although i have a mismatch in xubuntu keyring
[21:52] <anon_> any workaround
[21:52] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: do you know how to fix the graphic card problem? I'd like to have a 3D acc
[21:52] <bekks> anon_: No.
[21:52] <daftykins> hroi: lol no, nvidia 331 is working fine. you want to look up CUDA :)
[21:53] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Let's try booting the LiveUSB via BIOS and see if it has acceleration.
[21:53] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[21:53] <N3sh_> that's what I did before, right?
[21:53] <N3sh_> the problem appeared on Debian
[21:54] <anon_> so by "popular opinion" keyring can not be reset with pass modification
[21:54] <ChrisP1948> Well, kernel is updated - Linux localhost 3.14.0-031400-generic #201403310035 SMP Mon Mar 31 04:36:23 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux now to see what happens.
[21:54] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: No, Debian was clearly installed via UEFI as you had a grub-efi shell.
[21:54] <N3sh_> btw, now I have like 4 grubs to select from :P
[21:54] <imbezol> mmm grubs
[21:54] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Ready for a 5th? :)
[21:55] <N3sh_> lol, hopefully I can remove them without much of a big deal
[21:55] <N3sh_> at the moment I'll fix the wireless
[21:55] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: I'm leaving soon.
[21:56] <daftykins> hroi: check you have "nvidia-libopencl1-331" installed
[21:56] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: :( :(
[21:56] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: isn't just because of the drivers?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Back in the old days from which your machine comes, graphics drivers couldn't handle booting via EFI well, while drivers have been since updated and the situation is if anything now reversed, maybe the code paths for this particular old GPU still have issues with not having BIOS.
[22:01] <N3sh_> btw, even debian was booting via EFI
[22:01] <N3sh_> ok let's try with the Live again
[22:01] <N3sh_> how do I boot it from BIOS?
[22:06] <xclown> h
[22:06] <xclown> hi
[22:08] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: have you gone already?
[22:14] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: thanks a lot anyway :) I think the additional drivers woke up and now it gave me some drivers for the graphic card, yay :)
[22:16] <arun_> !info ircd-hybrid
[22:16] <jhutchins> Jordan_U: I was putting grub (CentOS5) on Mac Minis when they went to Intel & EFI, didn't have graphics issues.
[22:17] <rooisto47> jhutchins, thanks bro :D it works perfectly!
[22:17] <rooisto47> xsane for epson dx7450 scanner
[22:17] <jhutchins> rooisto47: Great!
[22:17] <jhutchins> rooisto47: That way you don't have to worry about the manfacturer mainting a driver for new kernels.
[22:18] <rooisto47> wow, actually I didn't even worried about the driver itself
[22:24] <MasterPiece> Hello, I have a bad HW conflict right now! and I'm very interested to know for what and how to fix it!
[22:24] <MasterPiece> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564018/
[22:25] <Zebra111> !nouveau | MasterPiece
[22:26] <daftykins> MasterPiece: "lspci | pastebinit" ?
[22:27] <MasterPiece> Zebra111, I know a little about nouveau :) Thanks man
[22:27] <MasterPiece> daftykins, here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564036/
[22:28] <daftykins> MasterPiece: so did anything actually happen or did you just find that error in your first paste?
[22:28] <Zebra111> Sorry masterpiece I thought !$nouveau would be more useful, oops
[22:29] <daftykins> Zebra111: sometimes i trigger a factoid in PM to check it before directing it to a user ;)
[22:29] <MasterPiece> Zebra111, nop ;)
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> MasterPiece: tried the bootoption: nouveau.blacklist=1
[22:30] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: leaving the system with no driver but vesa? bit of a novel plan...
[22:30] <MasterPiece> daftykins, Yeah, I deal with hanging everything in my desktop and freezes anything! Even the mouse and the Keys , Then I have two choices 1. wait about 5 min to restart session and 2. restart physically ! :D
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: yeah, then install proprietary
[22:30] <daftykins> MasterPiece: give one of the proprietary nvidia drivers a go.
[22:31] <MasterPiece> ActionParsnip, Thanks, I'll try it in next restart :D
[22:31] <daftykins> MasterPiece: just try another driver, nouveau blacklisting is pointless
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: there is madness in my method
[22:31] <daftykins> hah, that part i can agree with
[22:32] <MasterPiece> I'll be back soon ;)
[22:36] <namidark> when running ` apt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install apt ` (for example), manually on the command line it works, however when running it from a script it fails saying "dpkg: error: need an action option" - any ideas?
[22:44] <eN_Joy> on average process ksoftirqd/1 takes 10% cpu, should i worry about it?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> namidark: I'd ask in #bash
[22:44] <namidark> ActionParsnip: thanks i will
[22:47] <EriC^^> eN_Joy: yes
[22:47] <EriC^^> i think
[22:48] <chr1stopher> atm i run windows 7 and fedora 21 in parallel, now i am thinking of replacing fedora with ubuntu. if i just "remove" my linux partitions and try to install ubuntu will the "bootloader" still automatically add my windows installation?
[22:48] <EriC^^> eN_Joy: it seems not after googling
[22:48] <daftykins> chr1stopher: probably yep, otherwise boot-repair afterwards
[22:48] <eN_Joy> EriC^^: okay then, yeah at least it's causing my keystroke somewhat sluggish
[22:49] <chr1stopher> daftykins: so i can remove all partitions only keep the ntfs one?
[22:49] <daftykins> chr1stopher: with 7 there are likely two
[22:49] <chr1stopher> daftykins: this small one with 100-500 MB, or?
[22:50] <MasterPiece> Please tell me "Where I should add boot option?" please, I add it into the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT (see: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/176) and I deal with ignoring due to unknown parameter ( see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564171/ ), Thanks :)
[22:50] <daftykins> MasterPiece: don't waste your time with that, just install an nvidia driver.
[22:50] <chr1stopher> daftykins: ah i got one large ntfs and one ntfs with 105 MB
[22:50] <MasterPiece> !nvidia
[22:51] <daftykins> chr1stopher: you could just boot an ubuntu flash drive, select install, select "something else" then pick your existing Linux partitions and select to format them.
[22:51] <MasterPiece> daftykins, Thanks :) , but I curious about it :D
[22:51] <daftykins> MasterPiece: about what? in what way?
[22:52] <MasterPiece> daftykins, about why nouveau have conflicts and "How to add the boot option and where"
[22:52] <chr1stopher> daftykins: yes that s what i am just thinking to do. if i want to get rid later of windows can i just "delete the partitions" with disks or something and increase my ubuntu partitions?
[22:53] <daftykins> chr1stopher: not really that easily, no
[22:53] <daftykins> MasterPiece: ok, well you wouldn't enter them as a permanent choice... you'd try them once to start with. have a look here and use the same principle...
[22:53] <daftykins> !nomodeset | MasterPiece It's a mistake though.
[22:54] <EriC^^> chr1stopher: how big is the windows partition?
[22:54] <chr1stopher> 70gb the main and the small one 105mb
[22:54] <chr1stopher> i am just thinking if i try to use windows in a VM
[22:54] <chr1stopher> only need it for photoshop, illustrator and indesign sometimes
[22:55] <Guest51929> I just started using Ubuntu yesterday after installing crouton on my Acer Chromebook 11... Are there any idiosyncrasies I need to be aware of? Where would I find out?
[22:55] <MasterPiece> daftykins, Thanks man :) You took me a great answer ;) Thanks in advanced again :)
[22:55] <EriC^^> chr1stopher: i've no experience with that, but i'd think you'd want to run those natively
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest51929: do you mean like gotchas?
[22:56] <chr1stopher> EriC^^: hm that s what i thought till now as well. but it makes me angry ... clean install of windows 7 had around 30gb, after all windows updates + drivers -> 40 gb
[22:57] <chr1stopher> EriC^^: so i would try windows 8.1 now because i think it needs a little bit less space, but maybe my older versions of the adobe software will make trouble then
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> chr1stopher: yeah the space used by windows always makes me shocked.
[22:58] <daftykins> trust me 8 will be a bad move :)
[22:58] <chr1stopher> ActionParsnip: it s really horrible ... 70GB of my ssd in use only for 3 apps
[22:58] <EriC^^> chr1stopher: win8 is less resource hoggy than win7
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> chr1stopher: my / is 4Gb and does all the web amd media playing you can need...
[22:58] <EriC^^> chr1stopher: it'll probably be better
[22:59] <chr1stopher> daftykins: why? because of all the UI things? i can ignore that for the few hours i ll use it ;D
[22:59] <chr1stopher> and if i ll use a VM i am more flexible with the used space
[22:59] <daftykins> chr1stopher: nah, the size. multiple gigabyte updates on a clean install
[22:59] <daftykins> anyway, i'm being off topic
[22:59] <chr1stopher> daftykins: you think it s worse to use 8.1 than 7?
[23:00] <stobix_> If I update 13.10 to 14.10, will it eat up my windows partition? 14.04 alledgedly has this problem.
[23:00] <daftykins> you're still on 13.10? damn
[23:00] <chr1stopher> ah i ll just do it now ;D thanks for the tips ^^
[23:00] <daftykins> backup and you won't have a problem
[23:00] <EriC^^> stobix_: first time i've ever heard about this
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> stobix_: you will need to upgrade to 14.04 in between unless you do a clean install
[23:01] <stobix_> daftykins: yeah. I read the bugs for 14.04 and saw that I might loose everything on my work computer. I meh'd out.
[23:01] <jairodealmeida> hi guys, how to display stylized log, for exemple sudo tail -f /var/log/tomcat7/catalina.out
[23:01] <Bashing-om> stobix_: Are you in reference to this one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192 ?
[23:01] <jairodealmeida> styled log is colorized log terminal output =)
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: does your user not have read access to the file?
[23:01] <stobix_> ubottu: yeah, that.
[23:02] <stobix_> Bashing-om: yeah, that.
[23:02] <EriC^^> stobix_: i think that refers to the installer's install/reinstall feature
[23:02] <EriC^^> stobix_: i actually wiped my drive due to that bug :)
[23:02] <Bashing-om> stobix_: I have not checked lately .. Let's see what " Fix committed " means .
[23:02] <EriC^^> stobix_: i sincerely doubt that a do-release-upgrade will erase any partitions
[23:02] <stobix_> EriC^^: ... sounds...comforting... O_O
[23:03] <jairodealmeida> ActionParsnip: yes have access, but not stylized, can i know boult a terminal log tool
[23:03] <jairodealmeida> for developers
[23:03] <stobix_> EriC^^: Yeah, it would make no sense whatsoever if it did. Bugs not always do, though.
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: no, I'm askimg is you can use tail as your user...tail with sudo seems weird
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: what is the output of: ls -l /var/logtomcat7/catalina.out
[23:04] <stobix_> Bashing-om: I think they might have it in 14.10, and will include it in 14.04 Any Day Now™ (at least before 15.04. Or something like that.)
[23:04] <EriC^^> stobix_: the bug was that, i installed ubuntu first next to windows, then i tried to reinstall it, and pressing reinstall ubuntu wiped everything and reinstalled it alone
[23:05] <EriC^^> stobix_: i've never heard of anyone's partitions being deleted when upgrading though
[23:05] <stobix_> EriC^^: Ah. Hm. Might be worth a shot, then.
[23:06] <jairodealmeida> -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat7 adm 1048158 Dez 18 20:56 /var/log/tomcat7/catalina.out
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: then you don't need sudo. Every single user on the sytem has read access
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: can you see that feom the output?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: I found this in seconds using websearching:
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8414/how-to-have-tail-f-show-colored-output
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: you don't need sudo, you can even read it as guest account
[23:08] <jairodealmeida> ActionParsnip: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8414/how-to-have-tail-f-show-colored-output
[23:08] <stobix_> EriC^^: I just realized why I thought this might be a problem to begin with. On the ubuntu upgrade page, there is a troubleshooting section that points to the release notes. The release notes has the bug listed.
[23:08] <jairodealmeida> ActionParsnip: this article halps
[23:08] <jairodealmeida> helps
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: using sudo when its not needed can damage your sytem. Not every command in terminal needs prefixing with sudo
[23:10] <argoneus> hello
[23:10] <argoneus> I want to give a single user on my machine access to a single apache config file
[23:10] <daftykins> hi.
[23:10] <argoneus> how can I do that?
[23:11] <argoneus> I don't want to add him to the apache group, then he could fubar everything if he got mad at me
[23:11] <EriC^^> stobix_: here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes ?
[23:12] <EriC^^> argoneus: add him as a acl
[23:12] <stobix_> EriC^^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades <-- there
[23:12] <argoneus> is acl hard to set up?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: who is the group owner and user owner of the log file?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: not really
[23:12] <EriC^^> argoneus: setfacl -m u:<user>:rw /path/to/file
[23:12] <argoneus> oh
[23:12] <argoneus> nice, thanks
[23:12] <mikeylikesit0475> I loaded ubuntu studio for the first time and when I closed out, my computer settings changed. I can't add workspaces and I cant add icons to the desktop. What just happened?
[23:13] <bazhang> !studio
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: you can use groups to grant access too
[23:16] <EriC^^> sybariten: see that's the release notes of trusty which has the bug Bashing-om referred to ( my bug ) but it has nothing to do with upgrading
[23:17] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Is your graphics card working now?
[23:18] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: not really. Now it doesn't even work with nomodeset...
[23:19] <N3sh_> It gave me 5 drivers, I selected the first Nvidia driver {proprietary, tested}
[23:19] <N3sh_> and Broadcom Airport (the only one available)
[23:19] <N3sh_> and now it just gets stuck with a blinking cursor
[23:20] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: OK, let's try booting via BIOS.
[23:20] <mac_> hy,, can someone help me put with informacion? about ati graphic card hd3470.. is it still supported?
[23:20] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Did you already run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc"?
[23:21] <EriC^^> stobix_: i think this pertains to upgrading via the installer, just noticed it's in the upgrade section as well, if you're doing a do-release-upgrade i think you should be fine
[23:21] <daftykins> mac_: no
[23:21] <mac_> is not ?
[23:21] <EriC^^> stobix_: otherwise you'd probably be better off with manual partitioning
[23:22] <mac_> daftykins, can u help me out? to fix it?
[23:22] <daftykins> mac_: AMD 4xxx series and before are legacy and cannot be used with fglrx on Ubuntu, they can be used with the open source radeon driver however
[23:22] <daftykins> mac_: fix what?
[23:22] <mac_> ow.. usually after latetst updates i stay in dark
[23:22] <mac_> now got other pc, and fresh installed 12.04
[23:22] <mac_> lts
[23:23] <daftykins> why so old?
[23:23] <mac_> graphic?
[23:23] <mac_> is inside laptop.. :S
[23:23] <daftykins> no, picking 12.04
[23:23] <mac_> didnt want to stay in dark.. :-S
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: its still supported and has Uniry2D :-)
[23:24] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: i know this.
[23:24] <mac_> are new ones capable to run ati hd 3470
[23:24] <daftykins> even 12.04 updated has to use the open source driver 'radeon'
[23:24] <daftykins> so just try it out
[23:25] <mac_> ok.. if not.. see us after fresh install again ;-)
[23:25] <mac_> thank u
[23:25] <stobix_> EriC^^: Ah. Good. I'll stick to the trusty old terminal, then.
[23:25] <daftykins> mac_: just boot a 14.04.1 live session and see how it goes
[23:25] <mac_> ow.. i dont have it yet... need to go to other pc.. to burn it
[23:26] <daftykins> flash drives are a billion times better than optical media for live sessions :)
[23:26] <mac_> do i need to first check for updates, install, lather upgrade?
[23:27] <daftykins> mac_: the installer might offer to install updates during
[23:27] <stobix_> EriC^^: Yeah. Wouldn't have it any other way anyways.
[23:27] <daftykins> i tend to avoid that
[23:27] <mac_> ok.. see us lather
[23:28] <JU1CE> Is there a particular issue with ASUS P8H61-M motherboards and Ubuntu? I'm having USB issues, and can't find anything useful with the Googles.
[23:28] <daftykins> !details | JU1CE
[23:29] <JU1CE> Thanks.... un momento por favor
[23:29] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: not yet. I also lost the wireless drivers.
[23:29] <N3sh_> let's see if I can boot something without graphics
[23:30] <N3sh_> p.s. in recovery it boots
[23:30] <ibjoe> #mediawiki
[23:30] <daftykins> ibjoe: "/join #mediawiki"
[23:30] <JU1CE> So I have Ubuntu 14.10 installed. USB isn't working worth a damn, which is strange because I have a Logitech wireless KB/Mouse that work fine. Anything else I plug into the USB or card reader doesn't register. I have tried booting to BIOS with no luck, because Ubuntu is taking over the boot process, and I can't find a reliable key combo to get to BIOS.
[23:31] <daftykins> JU1CE: plug something in then run "dmesg | tail" and put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com so we can see
[23:31] <daftykins> ubuntu does not take over the boot process :P likely your USB keyboard just isn't helping matters
[23:32] <JU1CE> Well that's odd.... this issue has been going on for months, and I just plugged in a USB stick and it worked fine.
[23:32] <daftykins> i have that effect on things ;)
[23:32] <acovrig> what could cause an iptables -v -t nat -L to take a long time? Usually I've seen it return in seconds, but with a specific system, it seems to always take ~2-6min
[23:33] <JU1CE> I Googled everything I could think of for weeks on this.
[23:33] <daftykins> JU1CE: try some other devices too, then?
[23:33] <daftykins> acovrig: #ubuntu-server might be more relevant
[23:34] <acovrig> daftykins, thanks
[23:34] <JU1CE> SD reader still isn't registering.
[23:34] <daftykins> pastebin the command i mentioned
[23:37] <JU1CE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564512/
[23:37] <JU1CE> daftykins, ^^
[23:37] <daftykins> heh, that disk capacity change didn't look good
[23:37] <daftykins> JU1CE: install "pastebinit" then run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[23:38] <JU1CE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564523/
[23:39] <daftykins> 32GB 0o is that the size of a card in it?
[23:40] <tnkhanh> hi what .bashrc file can I use for both normal user and root
[23:40] <daftykins> i wonder why your sdb disappeared
[23:40] <tnkhanh> I mean the .bashrc that run on any user
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: its what terminal runs when you run it. You can specify personal aliases and variables
[23:41] <JU1CE> daftykins, I plugged my phone into it. I think it's 16Gb.
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: there is a bash config file in /etc that affects all users
[23:41] <JU1CE> Oh! The 32 is an SD card.
[23:42] <daftykins> JU1CE: looks like it just doesn't have any partitions/data on this 32GB card then
[23:42] <tnkhanh> ActionParsnip: thanks. I will try
[23:42] <JU1CE> Okay.... any idea why my phone isn't showing up?
[23:42] <JU1CE> I'll try to do something with the SD real quick to get something going with it.
[23:43] <kantlivelong> hey all. im having a weird issue where my laptops internal mic stops working randomly. restarting pulseaudio fixes it. levels in alsamixer are correct. any ideas?
[23:44] <JU1CE> I formatted and ran the parted -l | pastebinit. Here is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564543/
[23:45] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I got a root bash
[23:45] <dean_> hello I'm running linux mint right now on my lap top, but I just downloaded ubuntu and moved the download to a usb, I'm just wondering if anyone could tell me how to install it from the usb
[23:45] <daftykins> JU1CE: phones are MTP these days, so you'd have a different style of view if it's even supported as is. what version are you running? both in number and in xu/lu/ku/ubuntu
[23:45] <N3sh_> can I remove/change the driver I installed?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[23:45] <kantlivelong> ActionParsnip: one sec
[23:45] <daftykins> JU1CE: i'm not convinced about your format!
[23:46] <daftykins> JU1CE: re-run "dmesg | tail" with the phone in perhaps
[23:46] <squinty> dean_:  use mint's usb maker or unetbootin or check out  pendrivelinux.com
[23:46] <kantlivelong> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=95e751d016f7579354a79b35107b4b533d41a22f
[23:46] <JU1CE> 14.10 Ubuntu, updates are current.
[23:46] <dgarstang> client side ldap... nsswitch.conf, ldap.conf, server cert... what else is there?
[23:46] <JU1CE> Minus the release update, obviously.
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: mint isn't supported here
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> !mint | kantlivelong
[23:47] <kantlivelong> ugh. its the same damn backend
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: your distribution is supported there
[23:47] <kantlivelong> :/
[23:47] <daftykins> kantlivelong: nope.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: its not ubutu, so isn't supported by the Ubuntu community
[23:47] <frequark> is there no flash included in chromium browser?
[23:47] <daftykins> frequark: install pepperflash
[23:47] <JU1CE> This is with the phone plugged in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564566/
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> frequark: not by default
[23:48] <tnkhanh> do people still use other shells than bash?
[23:48] <dany> CCIRC
[23:48] <tnkhanh> is it ok if I stick to bash shell for the rest of my life? :s
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: I have a few friends who use zsh
[23:48] <daftykins> JU1CE: hrmm, what revision of the motherboard is this?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: I would but hats just my opinion
[23:49] <tnkhanh> ActionParsnip: Ic. thanks a bunch :D
[23:49] <JU1CE> daftykins, no idea. I have the box open, so I can look if you don't mind waiting a minute.
[23:49] <daftykins> JU1CE: go for it, should be in the usual white writing yip
[23:50] <JU1CE> daftykins, 1.0.1 ?!?!
[23:51] <JU1CE> daftykins, at least that's what's printed on it. Not sure if it was flashed before shipping. It came from BestBuy locally.
[23:51] <Pencil_> hello
[23:52] <daftykins> JU1CE: alright give us a full dmesg "dmesg > ~/file && pastebinit ~/file"
[23:53] <JU1CE> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564604/
[23:54] <frequark> my wifi wont stay connected for more than 5 minutes, what should I do?
[23:54] <PrincessAuv> How do I get the fixed release of Git for Ubuntu?
[23:54] <PrincessAuv> Has it been released yet?
[23:54] <daftykins> JU1CE: definitely no extra letters after "P8H61-M" ? like LE, or PRO, or?
[23:54] <JU1CE> PRO
[23:55] <PrincessAuv> I mean by that has it been put in the repos
[23:58] <daftykins> JU1CE: ok, dmesg told me you're on a 3602 BIOS dated 02/20/2012 whilst the latest from Asus is 4802 dated 22nd May 2014, i can't guarantee this would change a thing but i'd boot back into Windows and give the update a go
[23:58] <JU1CE> Okay, that's worth a shot. I haven't booted into Windows in months... hopefully it still works ;)
[23:58] <daftykins> JU1CE: now i'm not sure how versed in hardware you are, but a BIOS update isn't without risk... so be sure you're comfortable with the idea before going ahead. and pull all USB junk out and just use a flash drive directly into USB v2.0 ports on the motherboard
[23:59] <JU1CE> Thanks a ton, daftykins. I'll try to catch you on the other side.
[23:59] <dgarstang> ldap... is sssd and/or nscld required?


[12:04] <mapreri> Hi! I'm an ubuntu-it member, and we noted that our meeting logs before 2009 were logged in an ubuntu-eu domain (we only have some link in our wiki, pointing to that). Do you know if these logs are still available elsewhere? (an example link is http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2007/09/19/%23ubuntu-it-meeting.html) I don't know witch bot have logged it, the channel is #ubuntu-it-meeting
[12:10] <AlanBell> mapreri: yeah, I think they are gone, -uk logged there too
[12:47] <mapreri> AlanBell: do you know if the -eu servers were own by canonical? probably the have some backups.....
[12:47] <AlanBell> they were not, I think they were someone in the germany loco team
[12:49] <Fuchs> yep, hang on
[12:51] <Fuchs> (well, or hang on some longer, can't reach any of them. Friday  *sigh*)
[12:54] <mapreri> AlanBell: bad news... I will try to email someone of the germany loco.... thank you anyway :)
[12:55] <Fuchs> mapreri: I am in contact with a bunch of them, but as I can't reach them right now: yeah, E-Mail.
[12:55] <Fuchs> Else a couple of them do hang around in #ubuntuusers (german, despite the name)
[12:56] <Fuchs> last thing I know is that one server is completely lost and on one we don't have access, as the person who initially gave it in was from the ... french I think ... team and is MIA
[12:58] <mapreri> Fuchs: ok, but do you know something about the irc logger? otherwise I'll email jbloch (germany loco contact in the LTP)
[12:58] <Fuchs> I think it's gone, I might be wrong. Try to poke juliux. Haven't seen him for a while, though.
[12:58] <Fuchs> and by gone I mean: no backups.
[13:02] <mapreri> Fuchs: "no backups" means the death of every sysadmins (from my point of view).... (without offenses, eh!)
[13:03] <Fuchs> which is quite easy if the people who actually did manage these servers (which were a few) are gone. I could grep logs now, but try to poke juliux. I'll see if I can reach the current german people handling servers  (which isn't really juliux) and grep some logs if you don't hear something within a reasonable amount of time
[13:03] <mapreri> Fuchs: (btw juliux is jboloch's name :) )
[13:04] <Fuchs> I know
[13:04] <Fuchs> I actually met him in person and I had to work with him in the past (I am part of the german LoCo, both the IRC and the ubuntuusers part)
[13:11] <MarkusH> Hey guys
[13:11] <MarkusH> Not sure if I can help regarding European IRC logs, but just ask.
[13:12] <Fuchs> (assuming it was on the server I think they were, then it was just confirmed that this one is dead)
[13:12] <Fuchs> MarkusH: would we have backups from eshu? (Assuming it was eshu)
[13:12] <MarkusH> Fuchs: sadly no.
[13:13] <MarkusH> Afaik there was a hard disc crash and the provider wasn't able to restore any data
[13:13] <Fuchs> so if it was eshu, then they are gone.
[13:14] <MarkusH> but yes, if I recall correctly, among the mailing lists for several European communities, the IRC logs were lost
[13:14] <Fuchs> MarkusH: he ponders contacting Juliux, do you know whether he'd know if it actually was eshu, and if not: who would?
[13:14] <Fuchs> (smurfix comes to mind, or the people I already poked in our channel)
[13:15] <MarkusH> Fuchs: Juliux might now. But I guess encbladexp or apollo13 are the best choices
[13:15] <MarkusH> ... to ask
[13:16] <mapreri> MarkusH: Fuchs so, have I to email Juliux?
[13:16] <Fuchs> right, which is why I poked them. mapreri: go ahead then, I shall try to reach the people mentioned.
[13:16] <Fuchs> mapreri: can't hurt. I'll try to reach apollo13 first, but he didn't reply yet.
[13:16] <Fuchs> mapreri: in case of people confirming it was the above mentioned server: sorry, then they are gone indeed :(
[13:16] <Fuchs> (maybe web archive or a similar site has them)
[13:16] <MarkusH> mapreri: what's the reason why you're asking about the logs?
[13:19] <mapreri> MarkusH: the logs exist to be read, and we (I, especially) have to read about period of a work team of the Italian loco (period that have been logged there). If we can't obtain it back, no worries, I can achieve the same results using ML archives, but it's a longer work
[13:20] <MarkusH> mapreri: I see. Sorry for that.
[13:21] <MarkusH> Fuchs: we might be lucky http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ubuntuusers/Serverteam#Gu
[13:22] <Fuchs> oh, is that machine still up?
[13:22] <Fuchs> if so: can you check whether the italian logs are there?
[13:22] <MarkusH> Fuchs: well, I cannot find it in our monitoring :-/
[13:22] <MarkusH> Sorry again
[13:23] <Fuchs> Okay. Poking apollo or juliux is probably still the option then, so we actually know which machine it is/was. Then we can check whether the machine still exist or, if not, whether there are at least some backups
[13:27] <mapreri> I emailed juliux. Anyway, you are lucky to own all that servers.... For now we depend on Canonical for web hosting :)
[13:28] <Fuchs> well, you see what the downside of that is :)
[13:28] <Fuchs> I shall poke you if I hear back from our people first. Juliux is sometimes a bit hard to reach. Good luck with restoring your logs, anyway :)
[13:30] <mapreri> Fuchs: FYI I have a bnc, so I always up. I'll stay on this channel for some days. If you have news fell free to ping me here on in /query, or email me directly :) thanks for your work!
[13:30] <mapreri> (and also MarkusH ↑:) )
[13:31] <Fuchs> mapreri: you're welcome. I'll either poke you or send a memo if you are offline
[13:31] <MarkusH> mapreri: you're welcome
[13:31] <mapreri> Fuchs: great
[13:31] <Fuchs> if you hear back from juliux and he actually does know: please let me know as well
[13:31] <Fuchs> we shall then update our documentation
[13:31] <Fuchs> and yes, if it is Eshu or Gu: gone. Sorry :(
[13:33] <mapreri> Fuchs: ok, no problem
[13:38] <Fuchs> right, Gu (server) is still there, but there are no logs on it. Apollo13 thinks that  either 1) they were there and have been deleted when the irc services were shut down   or   2) they actually were moved to Eshu and hence got lost when that things harddisk died
[13:38] <Fuchs> in either case there are no backups. So if he is right: meh :(
[13:39] <Fuchs> oh, wait
[13:39] <Fuchs> mapreri: what was the channel name,
[13:39] <Fuchs> and which dates would you need?
[13:41] <mapreri> Fuchs: #ubuntu-it-meeting from 2007 to 2008 (I need this two years in particular), but if there is things before and after and you can extract them, I'll send them (and keep) to other subteam of ubuntu-it
[13:41] <Fuchs> anyway, he seems to have found things on the harddisk, so let me know the dates and actual channel name, and I see what he can do.
[13:42] <Fuchs> yeah, he seems to have something. I'll ask him if he can tar up stuff. Where could he put / send it?
[13:42] <mapreri> Fuchs: if you need it, the links were something like http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2007/11/14/%23ubuntu-it-meeting.html
[13:42] <Fuchs> mapreri: he got it
[13:42] <Fuchs> mapreri: he builds a tar
[13:42] <Fuchs> where shall he send it to?
[13:43] <mapreri> Fuchs: send it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>please
[13:43] <Fuchs> he'll do.
[13:44] <Fuchs> I'll discuss with my colleagues whether we should make a backup of all that stuff in general in our next meeting
[13:44] <Fuchs> but your case should be closed by that. No need to contact juliux, then.
[13:44] <mapreri> Fuchs: great!
[13:45] <mapreri> Fuchs: eh, well to know, but I sent an email one hour ago... I send an update to him
[13:45] <Fuchs> Okay :)
[13:45] <Fuchs> I'll have to leave now, if there is anything new I'll poke you, but you should receive the file(s).  And please thank apollo13 for me :)
[13:48] <Fuchs> You're welcome :)
[19:30] <Unit193> AlanBell: There was a ticket in rt about trying to get canonical to host the backup of the loco logs, looked real as the file is alive and over 700MB compressed.
[20:45] <AlanBell> so it is Unit193
[20:45] <Unit193> Not sure if you want to bump on that (and the irclog2html) ticket?
[20:47] <AlanBell> just going to grab it and stick it on a server :)
[20:49] <AlanBell> ok, got it :)
[20:50] <Unit193> Putting it on ubottu.com?
[20:51] <AlanBell> one of my servers, but yeah probably should go on ubottu.com
[20:54]  * AlanBell has more bandwidth than ubottu
[20:55] <Unit193> Hah, niice.
[20:59]  * AlanBell uncompresses . . .
[21:00] <Fuchs> gee, you've gotten fat
[21:00] <AlanBell> big bones
[21:01] <Fuchs> sure *patpats*
[21:01] <Fuchs> speaking of which,
[21:02] <Fuchs> the old logs from the eu-server, shall we backup and place them somewhere?  (I am pretty sure that "making them available to the general public again" will result in a "no")
[21:02] <Unit193> AlanBell: How large uncompressed anyway?
[21:03] <AlanBell> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[21:03] <AlanBell> there they all are
[21:03] <AlanBell> probably not the ideal place for them, but I had access to put them there
[21:03] <Fuchs> AlanBell: oh, were where you a couple of hours ago, then? :(
[21:03] <AlanBell> 5.2G
[21:04] <Fuchs> in this case I can tell apollo to delete them
[21:04] <AlanBell> Fuchs: until Unit193 pointed out where the archive was and the request to Canonical to put it somewhere I thought they were gone
[21:04] <Fuchs> yeah, they got it from us by then
[21:07] <Fuchs> anyway, I shall put that in our documentation and delete them on Gu. Thanks <3
[21:19] <hotmedal_> I am somehow banned in #ubuntu. But I haven't been there in a month.
[21:41] <Fuchs> that sounds like a good case for #ubuntu-ops in general, so far I can't see the matching one, though
[21:42] <AlanBell> Fuchs: we have resolved the issue
[21:42] <Fuchs> ah
[21:42] <Fuchs> sorry, didn't see the timestamp
[21:42]  * Fuchs goes back to videogames


[09:05] <seb128> mvo: btw I don't know if you real planet gnome but there is new libnotify and notification-daemon versions, do you want to do the updates for jaunty when you have some free slot to work on those?
[09:07] <mvo> seb128: sure
[09:07] <mvo> thanks
[09:07] <seb128> mvo: thank *you* ;-)
[09:27] <mvo> seb128: all prepared, upload after the freeze
[09:28]  * mvo whishes there was a delay slot for uploads
[09:28] <seb128> mvo: you rock ;-)
[09:28] <mvo> thanks seb128, a nice change from the compiz screensaver problem
[09:29] <mvo> I have a sledgehammer approch now for it I think
[09:29] <seb128> mvo: did you get any upstream feedback on this one?
[09:29] <mvo> seb128: yes, very friendly, but "can't reproduce" - but my bad, my initial description was not very clear
[09:29] <mvo> I fixed it and hopefully will get better feedback
[10:20] <seb128> pitti: dunno if evolution-data-server and evolution should be moved to intrepid-updates or not, the current version has a new crasher when use the empty trash, they will roll new tarballs next week for GNOME 2.24.2 which fix that and some other issues
[10:21] <pitti> seb128: can't yet, not yet built on some arches
[10:21] <pitti> seb128: okay, let's wait then; regressions are bad
[10:21] <seb128> pitti: ok
[10:23] <seb128> the new version fix that and some other bugs too, let's wait for this one
[14:05] <mvo> seb128: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/jaunty-codec-install (just fyi)
[14:06] <seb128> mvo: danke
[14:07] <seb128> mvo: not sure now but did we also agree to have a session to discuss the installation issues bugs and what we could do better?
[14:07] <mvo> seb128: yes, I will add one for this as wlel
[14:07] <mvo> well
[14:07]  * mvo is a bit slow today, had a rought night
[14:07] <seb128> thanks ;-)
[14:07] <seb128> oh?
[14:08] <seb128> worked late on this security issue?
[14:08] <mvo> the security stuff didn't help :)
[14:08] <mvo> but that is fixed for good now (finally!)
[14:09] <mvo> expo got fixed by maniac103 (he is a rockstar)
[14:09] <seb128> ok, good
[14:12] <fta> hm, evolution crashes a lot, but not in gdb with -dbg installed
[14:19] <seb128> weird
[14:19] <seb128> intrepid or jaunty?
[14:19] <seb128> (not that it should really make a difference)
[14:19] <seb128> and when doing what?
[14:24] <fta> jaunty
[14:24] <fta> going the calendar
[14:24] <fta> +to
[14:32] <fta> btw, mail-notification is a disaster too, it makes evo crash on startup
[14:32] <fta> bug 251031
[14:33] <fta> there's even a patch, why has it been ignored for so long?
[14:34] <seb128> fta: you are a MOTU no? why don't you fix it?
[14:35] <seb128> fta: that's an universe package and I don't use it and I'm not subscribed but anybody else is welcome to update a fix
[14:35] <fta> seb128, i just started to use evo 2 days ago, so i don't know what to expect from it
[14:35] <fta> seb128, ok, i'll test and push if it works
[14:36] <seb128> fta: the calendar crash could be bug #270271
[14:37] <fta> i can't figure out how to add my other emails when i compose a mail. where is that supposed to be set?
[14:37] <seb128> fta: try disabling a11y and see if that makes it work for you
[14:37] <seb128> fta: evolution doesn't allow to do that easily, you need to add accounts for each email you have, just select no server to receive mail for those
[14:38] <fta> hm, ok, will try that
[14:39] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/75247/
[14:39] <seb128> right, that's the same bug
[14:39] <seb128> disable a11y
[14:39] <seb128> or do you need a11y?
[14:40] <seb128> the issue seems to be an at-spi one rather than an evolution bug
[14:40] <seb128> or rather they are discussing it on the GNOME bug
[14:42] <fta> i don't need ally.
[14:42] <fta> disabled now
[14:43] <pedro_> looks like bug 270271
[14:43] <fta> same crash
[14:44] <seb128> you need to restart your session to have that taking effect I think
[14:45] <fta> ok, it will have to wait then. too many things running at the moment
[14:45] <fta> thanks
[14:46] <seb128> you're welcome
[14:46] <fta> btw, the new cairo is causing a ftbfs in xulrunner (at least in the new one 1.9.1)
[14:47] <fta> something with a missing directfb header
[14:47] <fta> i'll have a closer look later today
[14:48] <seb128> ok
[15:52] <jcastro> seb128: should I make an lp entry for evolution-mapi?
[15:59] <seb128> jcastro: no opinion on the topic, I did look at packaging yet, dunno about the server team and the samba guys though
[15:59] <seb128> jcastro: it'll probably be useful once it's packaged though
[16:00] <jcastro> yeah I was just going to get it out of the way
[16:00] <seb128> right, good idea, what is done now is not to do later ;-)
[16:00] <jcastro> done!