[11:13] <defrysk> nl. is here the landcode
[11:13] <defrysk> exactly
[11:14] <kelly_> ok makes sense
[11:14] <buz> if you're in europe, ch. is very fast from most places
[11:14] <buz> then again, archive itself is in the uk
[11:14] <defrysk> yes
[11:15] <buz> (i dont want to see THEIR bandwidth bill ;)
[11:15] <buz> i actually wonder that they dont serve dns records close to you
[11:15] <buz> i know i would do that
[11:17] <kelly_> ok, im in au and all the landcodes are allready au.
[11:18] <kelly_> should i still get rid of it?
[11:19] <kelly_> eg
[11:19] <kelly_> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[11:19] <kelly_> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[11:21] <defrysk> kelly_, I would yes
[11:22] <buz> mhh
[11:22] <buz> from au, archive is gonna be reaaaly slow
[11:22] <defrysk> buz, if its dns related I would switch to ftp iso http
[11:23] <buz> if it's infact dns related, i would switch to ftp with ip
[11:23] <defrysk> otherwise try nz
[11:23] <buz> or the us
[11:23] <defrysk> as in new zealand
[11:23] <buz> most asian pacific trraffic for europe goes through the us
[11:23] <defrysk> or japan even
[11:24] <defrysk> indonesia
[11:24] <buz> university of hongkong
[11:24] <ghostshadow189> hi all , why that every file .kth i downloaded , when i install it in theme manager , they not work ?
[11:24] <defrysk> something in the pacific
[11:24] <buz> generally fast in asia/pacific and dog slow elsewhere
[11:25] <defrysk> back later
[11:26] <thomas> hi@ll
[11:27] <thomas> could anybody help me with beryl?
[11:27] <Tm_T> !xgl
[11:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:27] <buz> thomas: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:27] <thomas> thx
[11:27] <defrysk> beryl rules
[11:28] <marcix> hi guys
[11:28] <marcix> any italian chaps in here?
[11:29] <marcix> i need some help
[11:29] <Tm_T> !it
[11:29] <marcix> about wifi config
[11:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:29] <defrysk> !it | marcix
[11:29] <ubotu> marcix: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:29] <Tm_T> defrysk: Hrrr, you're slow.
[11:29] <defrysk> waaaaay slowww :s
[11:29] <marcix> i'm already there
[11:30] <marcix> there's anyone who can help me
[11:30] <marcix> i can speak english as well
[11:30] <luca__> hi everyone
[11:31] <marcix> hi
[11:31] <marcix> could anyone help me about wifi settings?
[11:31] <luca__> has anyone tried out gaim 2.05 ?
[11:31] <luca__> what is the problem marcix?
[11:31] <marcix> right
[11:32] <marcix> i've got
[11:32] <marcix> a wifi pci card
[11:32] <marcix> belkin
[11:32] <Tm_T> You don't
[11:32] <Tm_T> have to
[11:32] <luca__> gaim does not function, connection to msn and gmail do not connect
[11:32] <Tm_T> lean to
[11:32] <Tm_T> enter key. ;)
[11:32] <marcix> i've already installed drivers with ndiswrapper
[11:33] <marcix> and the device is on eth1
[11:33] <marcix> i cannot make it work
[11:33] <marcix> i think it's just a problem of config
[11:33] <marcix> an easy way to config it?
[11:34] <theprodukkt> hello, i need help with sun-java-plugins on my amd64 machine, already trying to setup it for about 8 hours and cant get it!
[11:34] <theprodukkt> does someone know any suggestions?
[11:35] <marcix> luca are you italian?
[11:35] <marcix> i'm
[11:35] <theprodukkt> i need the 32bit plugin for firefox, but in case ill get it, will the 64bit version of firefox work with it?
[11:35] <luca__> yeah I am
[11:35] <luca__> but I am no good at configuring sorry :)
[11:36] <marcix> all right
[11:36] <luca__> an OWoD player I see now... ;-)
[11:36] <marcix> i'll do myself or almost i'll try:)
[11:36] <Jucato>  fire
[11:36] <Jucato> er.. sorry
[11:38] <luca__> hi Jucato
[11:38] <Jucato> hi luca__
[11:38] <luca__> by the way if anyone is interested
[11:38] <luca__> and has a Thinkpad R50e
[11:38] <luca__> I have got mine finally to have a functioning sleep without any problems on resume :-)
[11:40] <luca__> does someone know how to disinstall a beta of gaim?
[11:41] <luca__> I have installed the beta 5, but it functions awfully - no connection to either msn or gmail
[11:42] <kelly_> hey guys
[11:42] <kelly_> when i run apt-get update and it clearly isnt working i just press ctrl+z  and it appears to stop
[11:43] <kelly_> but then i cannot start apt again becuase it cannot lock the list file or something? what am i doing wrong?
[11:43] <luca__> in konsole usually u use ctrl+c
[11:43] <fdoving> kelly_: ctrl-z suspends it. you can bring it back with the command 'fg'
[11:43] <luca__> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:43] <luca__> oh ok
[11:43] <kelly_> oh ok thanks
[11:44] <luca__> I think also the dpkg could function, try it if it is somehow broken
[11:44] <fdoving> and in the future, when something hangs, use ctrl-c to exit.
[11:46] <kelly_> ok guys i removed all the au. and now its working :-D horay
[11:46] <larss0n> can enyone help me solve the problem with the connection of frostwire, it wont connect
[11:50] <larss0n> can enyone help me solve the problem with the connection of frostwire, it wont connect
[11:51] <luca__> be more precise larss0n, I probably won't be able to help you, but others could with details :)
[11:51] <mngrif> i have a really strange problem: i'm installing kubuntu now and i'm at the "Prepare mount points" stage. I have a perfectly fine and acceptable root partition selected, but it still says "No root file system"
[11:52] <mngrif> mind you, i'm not having kubuntu reformat the partition since I have data on it (/home). this is the 6.10 installer
[11:53] <mngrif> i'm actually trying to grok the source to ubiquity to see if i can just comment out the check
[11:55] <kelly_> jsut as a matter of interest, why would removing the au's from my sources list make any difference? my friend has the same ISP and his sources list has the au's and it works fine
[11:57] <defrysk> kelly_, mirror might have some dns-desturbancies
[11:57] <mngrif> ahhh... the problem seems to be with having checked "reformat"
[11:57] <macem> how do i keep kaffeine from stopping playback when i switch to another desktop?
[11:57] <BeWat3r> hi im new to kubuntu/ubuntu, can someone tell me how I can open a .jar file? if I click on it only ark opens
[11:58] <defrysk> .jar is a java-archive
[11:58] <defrysk> not sure how to open it
[11:58] <BeWat3r> it is a java application
[11:58] <defrysk> java -jar blah.jar
[11:58] <BeWat3r> ok
[11:58] <BeWat3r> thx
[11:58] <defrysk> something like that
[12:00] <BeWat3r> ok it works thank you
[12:02] <kelly_> umm, not sure if i am still having the same dns issue but now adept wont update? it says waiting for headers (0%)
[12:08] <kelly_> sorry that doesnt tell you alot. When i run apt-get upgrade which i asume is the same thing i get this
[12:08] <kelly_> Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main screen 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10
[12:08] <kelly_>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (113 No route to host)
[12:08] <kelly_> but i can get to that url in konquerer
[12:08] <tsdgeos> <IP_ADDRESS> ????
[12:09] <kelly_> yer i dunno what thats about?
[12:09] <kelly_> i assume its a dns problem cuz that surely isnt the ip
[12:09] <kelly_> ?
[12:10] <kelly_> from konsole i can ping google but not security.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <kelly_> really quite frustrating, I am trying to move to linux from windows and not having apt working is making it hard :P
[12:13] <aualin> do you have a thought of moving back?
[12:14] <kelly_> well, amarok cant play mp3's and i cant play dvds :-( windows can right now
[12:14] <kelly_> but im being patient and trying to get it to work, grrr
[12:14] <aualin> well....................... you can add support for mp3
[12:14] <aualin> i ahev in my amarok
[12:15] <aualin> have
[12:15] <aualin> cant remember what i did.......
[12:15] <kelly_> i know, it says click to add support. but APT wont connect so it cant download the extra codecs
[12:15] <kelly_> :(
[12:15] <aualin> hm...
[12:16] <aualin> have you tried any other package manager?
[12:16] <aualin> like aptitude or adept?
[12:16] <aualin> or smart
[12:16] <kelly_> never had this weirdness with the DNS for apt before :S
[12:16] <kelly_> umm no i havnt
[12:16] <Lynoure> kelly_: maybe your dns server is having a bad day
[12:16] <kelly_> how would i update the sources and then do an upgrade with adept?
[12:17] <aualin> hm...
[12:17] <aualin> if you can browse to the server
[12:17] <aualin> you can download deb
[12:17] <kelly_> is the DNS server a isp based thing? becuase my friend is on the same isp and his is working
[12:17] <aualin> dont know........
[12:17] <aualin> can be...........
[12:19] <kelly_> but would konquere and apt use the same dns?
[12:19] <aualin> maybe not if konq wiroks
[12:19] <aualin> works
[12:19] <tsdgeos> teah
[12:20] <bubu1uk> DNS a.k.a. Domain name server. u should have ip addresses of ur DNS from ur ISP.
[12:21] <aualin> thanks for that
[12:21] <kelly_> ok, and then what do i do with that. BTW i have a router
[12:21] <bubu1uk> check ur connection settings, if ur DNS are setup properly. maybe it's not setup there properly
[12:22] <bubu1uk> if u got router, have at least DNS name same as ur routers ip
[12:22] <bubu1uk> but sometimes that doesn't work. so u can add other given from ur ISP
[12:22] <kelly_> is there any command to check the dns in konsole besides ping?
[12:23] <bubu1uk> gen u get anywhere online? i mean thru firefox, konqueror or whatever browser to any webpage?
[12:24] <nagyv> hello! I have deleted a file from the console from an ext3 filesystem. Is there a way to recover it? (I know its path and filename)
[12:24] <fdoving> nagyv: basically, no.
[12:25] <torsten-trunz> guten tag zusammen!
[12:25] <fdoving> !de | torsten-trunz
[12:25] <ubotu> torsten-trunz: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:27] <kelly_> bub1uk, I can get everywhere online, im online now :P just apt cant connect
[12:27] <bewat3r_> I would like to install firefox 2. therefor I downloaded a .tar.gz file. but I dont know how to instal that file now.
[12:28] <kelly_> and i can even browse to http://security.ubuntu.com/ with konquerer but i cant even ping it from konsole
[12:28] <kelly_> i am using IRC now on the connection :S
[12:28] <bubu1uk> kelly_: ur tryin to do apt from konsole, right? did u try also adept? if there is same effect.
[12:29] <torsten-trunz> is there anybody who can help by the installation of firefox 2.0
[12:29] <bewat3r_> or help me with it^^
[12:29] <zerak> whats the problem with firefox 2.0 for you?
[12:29] <bewat3r_> i really dont know how to install a .atr.gz file. I'm new to kubuntu, so.
[12:30] <torsten-trunz> ha, seems im not the only one who has probs with the installation of ff2.0
[12:30] <kelly_> adept just sits on "Waiting for headers 0%" when i click the update button
[12:30] <zerak> torsten-trunz whats the problem?
[12:30] <bewat3r_> could you tell me how to install ff2 with the tar.gz file?
[12:30] <zerak> use apt-get
[12:31] <torsten-trunz> i has downloaded the package and its unpacked in my homedirectory, and now it dont start when i click on the firefox-bin
[12:31] <zerak> try to avoid other sources at all cost
[12:31] <bubu1uk> kelly_: hmm, strange
[12:31] <Rythan> IOW, bewat3r_, you don't need to use the tar.gz file for ff2
[12:31] <zerak> torsten-trun use apt-get
[12:32] <torsten-trunz> yeah that i read in different forums, but there i dont find firefox
[12:32] <kelly_> very, really very frustrating, and if you guys dont know, nobody will :(
[12:32] <bewat3r_> and how would I do it with the tar.gz file/what is that file for?
[12:32] <alanblins> Anybody use kubuntu?
[12:32] <zerak> torsten-trunz got edgy?
[12:32] <zerak> torsten-trunz activated multiverse?
[12:32] <torsten-trunz> no i dont think
[12:32] <torsten-trunz> i installed kubuntu one hour ago
[12:33] <torsten-trunz> im a virgin with linux
[12:33] <kraut> moin
[12:33] <bubu1uk> kelly_: try to add to ur connection settings IPs of DNS servers provided by ur ISP, dont' think it will help, but u can give it a try
[12:33] <bewat3r_> how do I install with apt-get?
[12:33] <zerak> torsten-trunz when you installed it did you use the latest stable version ? Current version is is edgy, previous dapper
[12:33] <zerak> torsten-trunz open adept manager -> reposites
[12:33] <kelly_> lol, how do i go that?
[12:34] <bubu1uk> alanblins: ur' in kubuntu channel. most probably do. lol
[12:34] <kelly_> i have the info, but where do i type it
[12:34] <nagyv> bewat3r_: the tar.gz file is the source file, under ubuntu you should look for .deb files
[12:34] <bubu1uk> kelly_:sec
[12:34] <zerak> torsten-trunz look to the right and look for multiverse
[12:34] <torsten-trunz> k when you said, than i use it, i downloaded kubuntu iso from the website and installed that!
[12:34] <bubu1uk> kelly_: system settings > network settings.
[12:34] <zerak> tosten-trunz open "adept manager"
[12:34] <nagyv> bewat3r_: the main difference between the tar.gz and deb files is that the deb file is a precompiled install file for ubuntu (and similar debian based systems)
[12:35] <zerak> torsten-trunz open "adept manager"
[12:35] <torsten-trunz> is open
[12:35] <zerak> torsten-trunz then choose menu: adept -> manage reposites
[12:36] <torsten-trunz> k
[12:36] <zerak> torsten-trunz: look for multivers on the right side, efter edgy
[12:36] <nagyv> bewat3r_: try to foloow zerak's help to torsten-trunz, he is also trying to have ff2
[12:36] <bewat3r_> kk
[12:36] <bubu1uk> kelly_: did u find it?
[12:37] <zerak> torsten-trunz if it is gray shaded then right click and choose "enable"
[12:37] <zerak> torsten-trunz: then apply and update list
[12:37] <zerak> torsten-trunz: do enable for all multiverse before though
[12:38] <kelly_> yes but the admin button was hidden :P took me a minute to find that
[12:38] <bewat3r_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:38] <bewat3r_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:38] <zerak> torsten-trunz: how far have u got
[12:39] <zerak> bewat3r cant have 2 adept manager on at the same time
[12:39] <bewat3r_> comes if I use sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[12:39] <torsten-trunz> wait a minute
[12:39] <zerak> bewat3r or adept manager and console that try to access apt-get
[12:39] <bubu1uk> kelly_: lol
[12:39] <bubu1uk> works now?
[12:39] <bewat3r_> ah ok
[12:39] <zerak> bewat3r only one can access apt-get at a time, close adept manager
[12:39] <torsten-trunz> i has enabled the multi... and than i updatet
[12:40] <zerak> torsten-trunz search for firefox
[12:40] <bewat3r_> but what do I have to tipe in the terminal to get ff2?
[12:40] <kelly_> i put in the dns server address from my isp and it updated the network settings but apt still doesnt work
[12:40] <zerak> bewat3r first change source list either through console or adept manager
[12:40] <torsten-trunz> theres nothing
[12:40] <zerak> bewat3r make sure you got access to multiverse
[12:41] <bubu1uk> kelly_: when doin from konsole, do u get any errors?
[12:41] <bewat3r_> but It was the right thing to write in the terminal?
[12:41] <nagyv> fdoving: I succeeded to undelete a file using grep! :)
[12:41] <zerak> torsten-trunz: did u enable ALL multiverse -> apply -> update -> search for firefox
[12:41] <kelly_> yes
[12:41] <kelly_> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg
[12:41] <kelly_>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[12:42] <kelly_> ill try a restart and restart my router etc
[12:42] <kelly_> brb
[12:42] <alanblins> Anybody use kubuntu?
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> !anybody
[12:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:43] <alanblins> I am brazilian
[12:43] <bubu1uk> alanblins: told u everyone here uses it.
[12:43] <torsten-trunz> i enabled the two multivers and then i updated! but theres no firefox in the search
[12:44] <akrus> could someone help me with this f@#$%ing fglrx? :D
[12:44] <akrus> switched to Release of Edgy and now cannot install it...
[12:44] <akrus> (ver. 8.31.5 / x86)
[12:44] <bewat3r_> i got dapper what do I have to enable? I got only something with backports, anywhere alse isnt a multiverse in the discription
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> akrus: Try the kanotix fglrx script (it has been fixed to work on debian and ubuntu - and builds deb's)
[12:45] <akrus> h3sp4wn: sorry, any links? :)
[12:46] <h3sp4wn> akrus: wget -Nc -O/usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh http://kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh; sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh; /usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh (X will probably restart)
[12:47] <akrus> oh thanks :)
[12:47] <zerak> torsten-trunz: a stupid question but what is checked in adept manager
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> akrus: you will need build-essential and the kernel headers and stuff (probably)
[12:48] <torsten-trunz> everything!
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> akrus: oh yes your need to run it from a text console (ctrl alt f1)
[12:48] <kelly_> bubu1uk, im back
[12:49] <akrus> h3sp4wn: downloading atm :)
[12:49] <kelly_> didnt make any difference (as i expected)
[12:50] <kelly_> can somebody resolve http://archive.ubuntu.com and tell me the ip?
[12:50] <zerak> torsten-trunz: got any version of firefox at all?
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> archive.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> archive.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> kelly_: Tried upgrading the router firmware ?
[12:51] <maik> WHO -HOST *Leipzig*
[12:52] <zerak> torsten-trunz: did it say edgy or dapper left to universe in the "manage reposites"
[12:52] <kelly_> no i havnt updated the router firmware, i can  ping both the ips above but not the url
[12:52] <kelly_> :-(
[12:52] <kelly_> soooooooo irritating
[12:53] <kelly_> y did the dns devil choose me :P
[12:53] <Rythan> kelly_: Is there anything weird in your /etc/hosts file by chance?
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> kelly_: To me it sounds like a bug in the dns proxy which is on the router
[12:56] <zerak> torsten-trunz: what did it say left to universe in the "manage reposites",     (maybe:   edgy, dapper or horay?)
[12:56] <kelly_> what would u describe as weird in the hosts file
[12:56] <kelly_> and also i think would have to agree witht he dns proxy problem
[12:57] <kelly_> reallt only my own hostname and <IP_ADDRESS> in the hosts file
[12:58] <kelly_> thanks guys for all your help, tomorrow I will update the router firmware and try again, will let u know
[01:01] <torsten-trunz> sorry atm i write in the german channel, thats easier for me, but thx for the help!
[01:06] <zerak> i am having a Hauppauge TV-tunder and Hauppauge supports suse and red hat. For red hat one have to load  # sbin/modprobe tuner.o, # /sbin/modprobe bttv.o, # modprobe i2c.o
[01:08] <zerak> i can see that bttv is loaded even though i get error when excuting "/sbin/modprobe bttv.o" .   However the other got several modules with similiar names except tuner.o and i dont got dvb folder like ubuntu guides say one should have
[01:08] <zerak> get error when excuting all of the above, but as i said bttv is loaded even if i get same error
[01:09] <zerak> s
[01:14] <deirdre> I just installed edgy and i added my wife as a user, the sound card works for me but not her her account, can someone help?
[01:14] <zerak> (a guess) check group and make sure she got access to sound devices
[01:15] <zerak> (a guess) "vi /etc/group" or whatever editor
[01:15] <deirdre> i put that she has access to audio devices
[01:15] <[raphael] > hello
[01:15] <[raphael] > how can I install kolourpaint ? It is not available in adept?
[01:16] <[raphael] > it is in the kdegraphics package
[01:16] <h3sp4wn> zerak/deirdre: You should use vigr not vi for editing /etc/group
[01:16] <zerak> deidre does her username come after: "audio:x:29:..." where ... are the users
[01:16] <[raphael] > and I installed the kdelibs-dev package and gcc
[01:16] <zerak> h3sp4wn oh
[01:16] <[raphael] > but then ./configure of kdegraphics complained about a non-working /lib/cpp
[01:16] <bubu1uk> when i start kaffeine, i get icon that it's starting, but then it doesnt start, anyone knows what can be problem?
[01:16] <[raphael] > ... now, what is /lib/cpp doing there anyway? is a compiler be supposed to be there?
[01:17] <zerak> h3sp4wn when i write vigre i get into group with vi?
[01:17] <bubu1uk> when starting thru konsole, i dont get any error. also tried to reinstall kaffeine kaffeine-xine, no help
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> yes and vigr -s to edit the shadow
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> zerak: It uses the editor alternative (so doesn't have to be vi)
[01:18] <zerak> h3sp4wn what is the shadow in this case, tought it was the passwd encrypted
[01:19] <h3sp4wn>  /etc/gshadow (it needs to be kept consistant)
[01:20] <zerak> h3sp4wn looks very much like group but other format, so if one edit either one one must also edit the other?
[01:20] <tux__> hello
[01:20] <tux__> can anyone help me
[01:20] <bubu1uk> !anyone
[01:20] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:20] <zerak> hard to tell without the question
[01:21] <bubu1uk> anybody knows solution with that kaffeine problem? or what that could be that it doesnt start.
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> zerak: Should do (keep it consistant)
[01:21] <zerak> try starting it through console, might give you an error
[01:22] <bubu1uk> zerak: absolutely no error. absolutely no output
[01:22] <bubu1uk> neither thru verbose mode.
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> zerak: or you can edit /etc/adduser.conf and set something for EXTRA_GROUPS
[01:22] <zerak> h3sp4wn 4 files to edit for every change? (using vigr of course =)  )
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> just vigr and vigr -s (2 files)
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> unless you are changing the default group
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> It really is alot easier to just configure adduser.conf to work as you would like
[01:24] <zerak> h3sp4wn ok thank you, now i shall try to imprint it in my mind (maybe last a couple of days)
[01:24] <zerak> inprint it
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> EXTRA_GROUPS="dialout cdrom floppy audio src video lp users uml-run" (put something like that at the bottom of adduser.conf)
[01:24] <zerak> ok
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> then if you use adduser --add_extra_groups foo (then they are put into those groups)
[01:25] <zerak> then every new user get access to those, right?
[01:25] <zerak> ok
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> no but if you want to do that you have to put ADD_EXTRA_GROUPS=1 (also)
[01:27] <h3sp4wn> adduser USER GROUP (works for a single group) vigr and vigr -s should not be often necessary
[01:28] <zerak> why small letter here: --add_extra_groups,  and capital letters in file?
[01:28] <h3sp4wn> just convention I guess (and that is how adduser works)
[01:29] <deathlord> Hello all!
[01:29] <deathlord> i have install ubuntu on my laptop dell latitude d600 and i have conf my wireless card
[01:29] <deathlord> but i have one problem
[01:29] <deathlord> can anyone help me
[01:29] <deathlord> ?
[01:30] <flattersr> hi deathlord
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> !anyone
[01:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:30] <deathlord> ok doki
[01:30] <zerak> ubotu they want to be polite and friendly maybe =P
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about they want to be polite and friendly maybe =P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <zerak> ah bot
[01:31] <flattersr> deathlord that something im thinking on doing on my vivo
[01:31] <flattersr> installing Kabuntu
[01:32] <deathlord> i have my own wlan on my home and when i'm near my router i have 100% signal an when i go on the next floor on my house i have again 100% signal but i can get connection ??
[01:32] <fdoving> nagyv: you were lucky :)
[01:33] <zerak> it did recognize your wireless card?
[01:33] <deathlord> yes ubuntu has recognize my wireless card
[01:33] <flattersr> here a question im thinking on updating the motherboard and processor
[01:34] <flattersr> will this mean i will have to re-install kabuntu
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> kabuntu ? what is that ?
[01:34] <flattersr> Ubuntu 6.0
[01:34] <zerak> havent had one but have you tried your internet connection previously, tried with wire (TP) and look if that work?
[01:35] <deathlord> how i can manage my wireless conection on ubuntu
[01:35] <deathlord> ??
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> I was thinking it was a fork of some type (seams fashionable to fork projects these days)
[01:35] <deathlord> which program
[01:35] <deathlord> ?
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> deathlord: dapper or edge ?
[01:35] <tamacracker> Hey guys?
[01:35] <deathlord> dapper
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> deathlord: wpasupplicant - /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes
[01:35] <tamacracker> My sound is off and my taskbar icon is missing
[01:36] <deathlord> bash: wpasupplicant: command not found
[01:36] <tony_hlp> Hello.. Seems somehow I manage to be stuck on the text mode login screen. Any ideas how to get back KDE graphical interface when booting?
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> deathlord: read that document it will tell you how to use it
[01:37] <TheGateKeeper> tony_hlp, Ctrl + Alt F7 ?
[01:38] <tamacracker> Can someone help me recover my sound?
[01:38] <TheGateKeeper> !sound
[01:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:38] <tamacracker> thanks
[01:39] <zerak> !tv-card
[01:39] <zerak> !tv-tuner
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv-card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv-tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <tamacracker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems <- bad link
[01:40] <zerak> tamacracker got tv-tuner / card  ?
[01:41] <tamacracker> i dont have a tv-tuner :(
[01:41] <avigail> how do i make it so that my panel icons magnify when i go over them?
[01:41] <TheGateKeeper> zerak, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Internet_TV_.28DemocracyTV_beta.29  <-- might be some help idk
[01:42] <zerak> TheGateKeeper https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_mythtvsetup is better
[01:42] <TheGateKeeper> ok :-)
[01:42] <zerak> TheGateKeeper if you can get your computer to recognize it
[01:42] <TheGateKeeper> tamacracker, that link gives me a web page
[01:43] <zerak> me too =)
[01:43] <tony_hlp> Any ideas how to get back the KDE graphical interface... I am stuck in the TEXT MODE login SCREEN?
[01:43] <zerak> sound link that is
[01:43] <tamacracker> yeah im gettin it now.
[01:44] <zerak> tony_hlp you know that u can get KDE from console, startx, dont know where to change so it autostarts it (did it some time past)
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> tony_hlp: try ctl alt F7
[01:44] <zerak> tony_hlp but take a look at "System settings" -> "Advanced"
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> tony_hlp: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (if that doesn't work)
[01:45] <zerak> $ startx           (if ctrl alt f7 gives black screen)
[01:45] <tony_hlp> I do sudo bash to get root console... And then /etc/init.d/kdm start says KDE is running
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> tony_hlp: well it will be on tty7 then
[01:46] <zerak> then ctrl alt f7 like they said
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> tony_hlp: if it has crashed the kdm restart thing should work
[01:46] <tony_hlp> When hitting ctrl alt f7 gives a blinking cursor nothing else
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> so try restarting kdm
[01:47] <tony_hlp> So at login startx
[01:47] <Schroeffu> Could i speak German here?
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> If you normally use kdm you either should disable it and use startx or xinit
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> !de
[01:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:48] <Schroeffu> thx :)
[01:49] <deathlord> how to play caunter strike
[01:49] <deathlord> ?
[01:50] <hades> hi all
[01:50] <hades> ive just upgraded my ubuntu
[01:50] <deathlord> how to play caunter strike
[01:50] <hades> and everything got destroyed
[01:50] <hades> i cant load my kde
[01:50] <flattersr> why what happened hades
[01:50] <hades> my x org server replyes faild to load module vesa
[01:50] <hades> no driver avaliable
[01:51] <hades> i have radeon 1600XT
[01:51] <hades> so i used the ati drivers
[01:51] <hades> from their page
[01:51] <hades> now i cant even install them from the console
[01:51] <flattersr> is there a way of backing out
[01:51] <hades> and my internet connection and configuration is nto working so ...
[01:52] <hades> i dont know what to do
[01:52] <hades> i had wait half a day to get the updates
[01:52] <hades> somone can help me ?
[01:52] <hades> flattersr: got any solution ?
[01:54] <flattersr> im trying to think if there is a way to go back to a save point on your system
[01:54] <deathlord> how can i play football manager without cedera
[01:54] <deathlord> ??
[01:54] <hades> flattersr: how can i install drivers from the consoe ?
[01:54] <probose> hey, i have a FAT32 HD and i want to mount it to be writeable. How i do it?
[01:54] <deathlord> how can i play football manager without cedera
[01:54] <deathlord> how can i play football manager without cedera
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> use windows
[01:57] <easytiger> probose: did you work it out?
[01:57] <probose> easytiger no =/
[01:57] <easytiger> is it [the HD]  installed?
[01:58] <probose> easytiger not in the moment, my friend borrowed it :P
[01:58] <probose> but he will bring me the HD today
[01:58] <probose> and i want to use it to make a backup, without destroy the windows installed in the hd, so i cant format it :P
[01:58] <easytiger> how are you connecting it?
[01:59] <easytiger> eg, ide, usb?
[01:59] <tamacracker> :\ i dont have a volume control
[01:59] <probose> ide
[01:59] <easytiger> well it should be easy to mount.
[02:00] <easytiger> it will be a /dev/hdb1 or something
[02:01] <tamacracker> can someone help me locate my volume controls?
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> tamacracker: alsamixer (directly from konsole) sudo alsactl store (when you have set them how you want)
[02:02] <julian_> #o.uni31
[02:02] <tamacracker> murder
[02:02] <julian_> join #o.uni31
[02:02] <probose> easytiger but when i mounted it, i could just read, not write
[02:02] <uksprout> OS Mepis 6.0 problem: when I play videos I can see them on the pc monito but all I get on my tv screen is blue the desktop etc all show correctly it is just the movie that is not displayed. any suggestions
[02:02] <tamacracker> oops that was for an Instant Message :D
[02:04] <easytiger> probose: you need to specify rw
[02:15] <tamacracker> totem is for gnome but what is it for kde?
[02:17] <tamacracker> can someone tell me what's totem in kde?
[02:17] <tamacracker> totem's for gnome
[02:17] <tamacracker> but i need the same app for kde
[02:17] <apokryphos> kaffeine
[02:17] <defrysk> kde uses caffeine
[02:17] <defrysk> with a k yes
[02:18] <tamacracker> thank you
[02:18] <apokryphos> all available from the K Menu
[02:18] <defrysk> it  needs libxine and libxine-extra-codecs
[02:19] <Jucato> !libxine-extracodecs
[02:19] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[02:20] <zerak_away> me again
[02:20] <zerak_away> saw you people discussed how to restart kde, 5 min later my kde krashed (evil wine). When startkde i get failure when contacting init
[02:20] <tamacracker> Jucato those are exactly what I need
[02:21] <defrysk> try starting with sudo kdm
[02:22] <zerak> tried sudo startkde
[02:22] <defrysk> try starting with sudo kdm
[02:22] <tamacracker> i did sudo kdm and it did nothing.
[02:22] <zerak> dont got any irc installed for console so i have to reboot back and forth
[02:22] <defrysk> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:22] <defrysk> then
[02:23] <defrysk> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:23] <zerak> couldnt one just do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:24] <defrysk> zerak, I give suggestions in my free time , i dont feel like being talkad back @
[02:25] <guglielf> !traceroute
[02:25] <ubotu> traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[02:25] <guglielf> !tcptraceroute
[02:25] <ubotu> tcptraceroute: A traceroute implementation using TCP packets. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5beta6-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 108 kB
[02:26] <tamacracker> that didn't help me.
[02:26] <tamacracker> it shut off my display
[02:26] <defrysk> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:27] <tamacracker> Starting K Display Manager: kdm already running.
[02:27] <tamacracker> i need help withsound
[02:27] <defrysk> ah
[02:27] <tamacracker> not display.
[02:27] <defrysk> sorry
[02:27] <tamacracker> :\
[02:27] <tamacracker> it's ok
[02:27] <defrysk> soudprobs in kde often have to do with arts
[02:28] <defrysk> just turn off hte soundserver and see if that helps
[02:28] <tamacracker> i dont know how to shut it off :\
[02:28] <tamacracker> my sound stopped working, the same day the sound volume control disseapeared from my taskbar.
[02:28] <defrysk> systemsettings > soundsystem
[02:29] <defrysk> and untic enable soundsystem
[02:29] <defrysk> save and check if your sound works
[02:30] <tamacracker> uncheck?
[02:30] <tamacracker> the enable soundsystem?
[02:30] <defrysk> uncheck yes
[02:30] <defrysk> yes
[02:30] <defrysk> apply
[02:30] <defrysk> and try sound
[02:30] <tamacracker> doesn't work
[02:30] <defrysk> ok
[02:30] <tamacracker> i cna't even control my sound.
[02:30] <tamacracker> there's no icon
[02:30] <defrysk> turn it back on
[02:30] <tamacracker> to check if it's muted
[02:31] <defrysk> rightclick empty spot on your panel
[02:31] <defrysk> add applet
[02:31] <guglielf> !locale
[02:31] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:31] <defrysk> select soundmixer
[02:31] <tamacracker> lol
[02:31] <tamacracker> soundmixer
[02:32] <defrysk> yes
[02:32] <tamacracker> is not the icon.
[02:32] <tamacracker> i did that already.
[02:32] <tamacracker> it's just an equalizer
[02:32] <tamacracker> that's the size of my panel.
[02:33] <defrysk> omg yourright
[02:33] <defrysk> open kmix in your cli
[02:33] <tamacracker> this is annoying me.
[02:33] <tamacracker> ok
[02:33] <tamacracker> this is what i need
[02:33] <tamacracker> kmix
[02:33] <tamacracker> and i need kmix's icon
[02:33] <tamacracker> on my taskbar
[02:34] <defrysk> go fiddle ;)
[02:34] <defrysk> go to settings
[02:34] <defrysk> and select configure kmix
[02:34] <defrysk> and tic all options
[02:35] <defrysk> volume values none
[02:35] <defrysk> slider orientation horizontal
[02:35] <tamacracker> why none?
[02:35] <defrysk> and also put it in autorun
[02:36] <defrysk> so it starts when you start kde
[02:36] <tamacracker> lol
[02:36] <tamacracker> i need my sound
[02:36] <tamacracker> no sound yet
[02:36] <defrysk> go to the output tab and work on it
[02:37] <defrysk> is beat
[02:38] <tamacracker> thanks for help/
[02:38] <defrysk> tamacracker, otherwise go to #ubuntu , crimsun is there and he is a specialist with sound issues
[02:40] <gnomefreak> :(
[02:41] <tobias_> hello friends! :)
[02:41] <zerak> no luck
[02:43] <Zarephath> Hey peeps...
[02:43] <Zarephath> I am wondering why when I execute a sudo command & and it needs the password it doesn't work...how should this be done?
[02:44] <Zarephath> example: sudo update-manager &
[02:44] <Zarephath> prompts for password then terminates execution
[02:44] <Chousuke> try with gksudo
[02:45] <Zarephath> Chousuke, : Ok but the question is specific to terminal under KDE...I would have assumed control would be in the terminal through BASH at this point?
[02:45] <easytiger> why does kaffeine take so long to load? and half the time it seems to not work then open 30 seconds later
[02:46] <zerak> any hints what to do when kdm nothing comes out of kdm start and startkde
[02:47] <Chousuke> Zarephath: ah, KDE. :P
[02:48] <Chousuke> Zarephath: in that case, ksudo
[02:48] <Chousuke> or hm
[02:48] <Chousuke> never mind me. I'm forgetting things ;(
[02:48] <Jucato> Zarephath: use gksudo or kdesu to launch graphical apps. (gksudo for GNOME, kdesu for KDE). when using '&' at the end of the command, the app is sort of "detached" from the terminal
[02:48] <Chousuke> right.
[02:49] <Zarephath> Jucato: Ahh...ok thanks that was what I was trying to understand...the why of it and not the "how" of it...
[02:50] <Chousuke> It's been a while since I used Ubuntu for an extended period of time :/
[02:50] <[Cult] Proji> hi
[02:50] <Zarephath> Chousuke, : np
[02:50] <Zarephath> Thanks for the help
[02:51] <[Cult] Proji> got a bit of a question surrounding apt
[02:51] <Zarephath> Just ask
[02:52] <zerak> i want kubuntu to start again and i would like to warn people of wine and its darker side
[02:52] <easytiger> zerak: ?
[02:52] <[Cult] Proji> it's telling me some other process is using the packaging database
[02:53] <defrysk> zerak, sudo kdm start
[02:53] <soulrider> Chousuke: kdesu
[02:53] <zerak> only one may access it, close adept manager
[02:53] <defrysk> dont forget sudo
[02:53] <[Cult] Proji> i've rebooted a number of times but get the same error
[02:53] <Zarephath> [Cult] Proji, : Uhhh..you have synaptic or something running
[02:53] <zerak> defrysk wont work
[02:53] <defrysk> too bad
[02:54] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | [Cult] Proji
[02:54] <ubotu> [Cult] Proji: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:54] <Jucato> defrysk, zerak: don't you mean "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"?
[02:54] <defrysk> yes
[02:55] <zerak> didnt work
[02:55] <defrysk> zerak, fist that command with stop then with start
[02:55] <zerak> did
[02:55] <easytiger> im getting dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `mzscheme' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. how do i remove this?
[02:55] <Zarephath> Or could it be that something changed it from kdm to gdm and that is why it won't run?
[02:56] <easytiger> it screwed up after the upgrade
[02:56] <defrysk> easytiger, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:56] <defrysk> easy if no go sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[02:56] <easytiger> defrysk: but i removed the package. everything works fine.. it just gives that warning
[02:56] <[Cult] Proji> ubotu, cheers mate that's cleared it up :)
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheers mate that's cleared it up :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <defrysk> easytiger, I see
[02:57] <defrysk> easytiger, reinstall it and then remove it with the --purge option
[02:57] <defrysk> apt-get remove <package> --purge
[02:57] <easytiger> good idea. but i think the repository for that one is screwed still
[02:58] <[Cult] Proji> i've got another question to do with wireless, i know there's issues on edgy with wlassassistant etc, i was just wondering if it has been resolved yet
[02:58] <defrysk> what repo is it ?
[02:58] <Zarephath> defrysk, : question about the purge option..doesn't it usually ask for the filenames of stuff it installed?
[02:58] <defrysk> purging removes all files involved with that package, including configfiles and stuff
[02:59] <Zarephath> defrysk, : Yes I attempted that once, however for some reason it asked for me to tell it the files which I didn't understand after reading the man page
[03:00] <defrysk> one could add --force Zarephath
[03:00] <Zarephath> In other words specify the files
[03:00] <Zarephath> ahh
[03:00] <Zarephath> K
[03:00] <Zarephath> defrysk,  : Thank you
[03:06] <easytiger> whats the name of the task juggler gui?
[03:08] <apokryphos> easytiger: you might have to be more descriptive. Juggler?
[03:08] <easytiger> apokryphos: http://www.taskjuggler.org/
[03:09] <apokryphos> !info taskjuggler
[03:09] <ubotu> taskjuggler: Project management application. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.0-1 (edgy), package size 1204 kB, installed size 4336 kB
[03:09] <apokryphos> easytiger: pretty sure that package comes with a GUI
[03:09] <sterilegenie> Can someone help me getting the fglrx driver to use direct rendering?
[03:10] <easytiger> apokryphos: found it.. it has an uppercase first letter
[03:11] <apokryphos> the /usr/bin/taskjuggler should be fine
[03:11] <arrautza> morning from chile
[03:11] <apokryphos> hello
[03:12] <arrautza> what about the apgrades?
[03:12] <apokryphos> huh?
[03:12] <easytiger> apokryphos: thats a command line program. TaskJugglerUI is the one
[03:12] <arrautza> ones i have runed the computer don't detect the th0
[03:12] <apokryphos> hm, so I see. That's not very standard
[03:12] <arrautza> eth0
[03:13] <arrautza> no wireless detected...the assistat will shut down
[03:14] <arrautza> this is the 3 time i have to reinstall
[03:16] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:19] <tamacracker> Whoa.... how come I have a Ubuntu and a Ubuntu Generic in my OS list?
[03:19] <webben> I added the repository for the Second Development snapshot of KDE4. apt-get upgrade and it says it's holding back kdelibs5 and kdelibs5-dev.
[03:19] <webben> Does anyone know whether I need to get those packages installed for the Snapshot to work properly?
[03:20] <wakka> alguien sabe como configurar una webcam en edgy? lo de que solo hay que enchufarla es una bola como un templo
[03:21] <[Cult] Proji> anyone know why on edgy everytime i try to download something with adept it comes up with a break error?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> [Cult] Proji: close adept and in terminal try sudo apt-get install -f
[03:22] <gnomefreak> [Cult] Proji: see if that downloads removes or upgrades anything
[03:22] <manwithaface> [Cult}Proji: did you upgrade or clean install?
[03:22] <[Cult] Proji> upgrade
[03:23] <manwithaface> i recomend a clean install
[03:23] <[Cult] Proji> kk
[03:23] <defrysk> [Cult] Proji, install synaptic and use that its more stable
[03:23] <defrysk> synaptic is better then adept
[03:23] <[Cult] Proji> i'll havea look at it :)
[03:23] <defrysk> !upgrade
[03:23] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:24] <[Cult] Proji> still trying to get my wireless working atm :(
[03:24] <arrautza> how can i get synaptic on kubuntu?
[03:24] <defrysk> arrautza, sure
[03:24] <manwithaface> apt-get install synaptic
[03:25] <defrysk> gnoe and kdeapps mix fine
[03:25] <defrysk> gnome*
[03:25] <gnomefreak> most of them
[03:25] <defrysk> gtk2 i should say
[03:26] <[Cult] Proji> the wireless issue is the most frustrating atm
[03:27] <arrautza> and after i get synaptic... adept most be uninstalled...??
[03:27] <gnomefreak> arrautza: no
[03:27] <gnomefreak> arrautza: you can keep both
[03:27] <arrautza> or... should i uninstall??
[03:27] <manwithaface> or uninstall, it doesn't makea differance
[03:27] <gnomefreak> arrautza: would leave it there
[03:27] <[Cult] Proji> argh break error on installing synaptic :(
[03:27] <gnomefreak> arrautza: it might depend on things you need
[03:28] <arrautza> .... like?
[03:28] <defrysk> time to do a dogwalk
[03:28] <gnomefreak> [Cult] Proji: did you try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:28] <[Cult] Proji> just used the gui adept thing
[03:28] <gnomefreak> [Cult] Proji: just that command no package name
[03:28] <gnomefreak> hint "sudo apt-get -f install" fixes broken packages
[03:29] <Alter-Ego> !easysource
[03:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:29] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i downloaded window decorations theme file , but now where i should extract it ?
[03:30] <[Cult] Proji> :)
[03:30] <ghostshadow189> ?????????????
[03:32] <[Cult] Proji> hmm, well fixed all that, back to attempting the wireless
[03:33] <[Cult] Proji> problem i've got with wireless is the same edgy one a lot of ppl have, my card is working and finds the network, just "connection failed"
[03:33] <pr3z1050> Hi!
[03:33] <josesito> hello all!
[03:34] <josesito> is there any way to correct filenames encoding problems other than manually renaming file by file???
[03:34] <h3sp4wn> All anyone could ever need to know about wireless is 'man interfaces and man wireless (for wep or no encryption) or /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz)
[03:34] <[Cult] Proji> if anyone knows theb est way to fix it i'd be proper happy
[03:35] <pr3z1050> when I boot Kubuntu cd, a menu appears but then the error: "disc error 20, ax=4200 drive EF" appears on the display.. what is? can someonehelp me?
[03:35] <h3sp4wn> [Cult] Proji: Read the wpa doc (zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz) anything you don't understand ask me
[03:35] <Alter-Ego> !easysource
[03:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:36] <[Cult] Proji> thx h3sp4wn
[03:37] <pr3z1050> h3sp4wn, can u help me?
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> pr3z1050: sounds like the disk has not been burnt right
[03:38] <pr3z1050> :O I used a cd-rw.. probably it's that
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> did you burn DAO ?
[03:38] <pr3z1050> I use nero standard burning
[03:38] <pr3z1050> iso 9660
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> try burning DAO and at a slow speed (disk at once)
[03:38] <pr3z1050> ok! :)
[03:38] <arrautza> could it be that my problem with the eht0 and the up-grades it is releated to un official repositorys??
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> and verify as well
[03:38] <pr3z1050> I never used a linux-based os
[03:39] <pr3z1050> and knoppix gave me lots of problem on my pc! To launch it from a bootable cd and without installation, I had to write some commands :|
[03:40] <pr3z1050> I I hope kubuntu is better :)
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> as a live cd kubuntu is a much worse one than knoppix
[03:41] <josesito>  is there any way to correct filenames encoding problems other than manually renaming file by file???
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> The only real use of the kubuntu live cd is for installing kubuntu
[03:44] <pr3z1050> And ubuntu is better for live cd?
[03:44] <Alter-Ego> h3sp4wn: i use the kubuntu live cd as an os
[03:45] <pr3z1050> :))
[03:45] <pr3z1050> I can't specify DAO in nero..
[03:45] <josesito> pr3z1050, maybe he means that for a live CD it uses a lot of system resources, making it almost useless for anything really important...if so, that's right. just use xubuntu's live CD and watch the difference
[03:45] <pr3z1050> it's too dummy!
[03:46] <pr3z1050> thx at all :)
[03:46] <marcix> hi guys
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> Alter-Ego: Useless (imho) kanotix and knoppix do a much better job
[03:46] <marcix> need some help
[03:46] <rooster> Hello
[03:46] <marcix> when i run ifup eth1
[03:46] <marcix> it gives me error
[03:46] <marcix> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[03:47] <marcix> it's a wifi connection
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> marcix: does eth1 appear in /sbin/ifconfig -a ?
[03:47] <marcix> why?
[03:47] <marcix> yes
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> marcix: does iwlist eth1 scan work ? what chipset is it ?
[03:47] <marcix> broadcom
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> marcix: If its broadcom did you install the firmware
[03:47] <marcix> what fw
[03:47] <marcix> i used ndiswrapper
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> did you blacklist brcm43xx ?
[03:48] <rooster> I just installed beryl and now when I press alt space to bring up Katapult it brings up the right click context menu.   I was wondering if there's a place where I can change it back so alt+space brings up katapult
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> bcm43xx ?
[03:48] <marcix> dunno
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> !blacklist
[03:48] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[03:48] <marcix> no i didnt
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> run update-modules afterwards
[03:48] <pr3z1050> I try burning kubunt as a live bootable cd :) I restart. Hi and thx! :D
[03:49] <marcix> thx for help
[03:49] <h3sp4wn> marcix: blacklist bcm43xx
[03:49] <ironfroggy> if i can see that the partition at /dev/hda1 has /initrd.img why do the boot options 'initrd=/initrd.img root=/dev/hda1' give me an error that the initrd is not found? trying to boot from the liveCD
[03:49] <marcix> the problem is now i'm in windowz
[03:49] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: are you sure initrd.img is not just a symlink ?
[03:49] <marcix> i've no internet connection on kubuntu
[03:50] <ironfroggy> oh
[03:50] <defrysk> rooster, beryl settings-manager and #beryl
[03:50] <marcix> so i've to restart my pc everytime
[03:50] <ironfroggy> cant use them?
[03:50] <arrautza> i have the sam problem...marcix
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> marcix: zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[03:50] <arrautza> same
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> marcix: (do the blacklist first and read that that)
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: Do you use a seperate partition for /boot ?
[03:51] <marcix> right now i'll restart my pc to operate in linux
[03:51] <arrautza> marcix: did you get an upgrade recently?
[03:51] <marcix> no i installed kubuntu yesterday+
[03:51] <arrautza> mmmm....
[03:51] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: no
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: anyreason you don't just specify the initrd explicitly @?
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i have created a group with two member, and i want to only that group member's are can to acces (rwx) to one folder
[03:52] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: explicitly where?
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i ahve chown :myGroup ./folder and chmod 0755 ./folder
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.19-rc6-git2-h3-1
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> but it isn't allows me to do anything with the folder
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> please helpme
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: or whatever
[03:53] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: because i didnt know /initrd.img was a symlink
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: Is this a self built kernel ?
[03:53] <ironfroggy> no
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> And you are using lilo ?
[03:54] <ironfroggy> i have no boot loader. thats why im trying to boot into my harddrive from the liveCD
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> just chroot to the installed system from the live cd and reinstall grub from there
[03:54] <nagyv> hello! how can I check wheather ubuntu recognizes the infra port of my laptop?
[03:55] <ironfroggy> i can not install grub
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> why not ?
[03:55] <ironfroggy> i cant get into a prompt that is actually usable from my alternative install CD and i when i try to install GRUB or LILO both fail for some reason i cant deduce.
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: using lvm or some pointless software raid ?
[03:56] <ironfroggy> nagyv: nope
[03:56] <ironfroggy> just pure bad luck
[03:56] <nagyv> ironfroggy: what nope?
[03:56] <ironfroggy> also, i just tried giving the real initrd image path and it still fails. any reason why that would happen?
[03:57] <h3sp4wn> if the initrd does not exist
[03:57] <ironfroggy> nagyv: sorry, didnt mean you
[03:57] <ironfroggy> but it does
[03:57] <ironfroggy> i just looked right at it
[03:57] <TheGateKeeper> ironfroggy, on the live cd or hdd vis chroot?
[03:58] <TheGateKeeper> via*
[03:58] <ironfroggy> hdd
[03:58] <ironfroggy> but cant get a chroot
[03:58] <h3sp4wn> install with debootstrap (always works)
[03:58] <ironfroggy> i dont know what that is but i think i have to go. ill look into it later.
[04:04] <nagyv> what these lines mean? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/InfraRedPNP, I have similar entries like for Medion 40653
[04:06] <zerak_away> still none who got any suggestion, kdm running but no X
[04:07] <zerak_away> then i will have to reinstall later on, thanks for taking your time
[04:08] <TheGateKeeper> zerak_away, what is the problem again?
[04:08] <zerak_away> i used wine and got blackscreen, now x wont start
[04:08] <TheGateKeeper> so have you looked at /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:09] <zerak_away> slightly, changed to nv instead of nvidia, but cant really figure out anything else that would make it refuse me connection
[04:10] <Jucato> zerak_away: using "nv" works?
[04:10] <zerak_away> nope
[04:10] <zerak_away> tried both
[04:10] <zerak_away> nv usually is default until one install nvidia i think
[04:10] <TheGateKeeper> what error message do you get?
[04:10] <Jucato> zerak_away: have you tried typing "startx"? you will get error messages there. or check /var/log/Xorg*log
[04:11] <zerak_away> as user trying to $ startx -> xint:server error
[04:11] <TheGateKeeper> usually X gives you a clue as to what is wrong
[04:11] <zerak_away> look at Xorg.0.log and it was HUGE and lots of error, dont think those i saw was the problem
[04:12] <zerak_away> but to large and dont know what to look after
[04:12] <TheGateKeeper> pastebin it please
[04:12] <zerak_away> as sudo : # startx -> x: warning priority -1 wants 0
[04:12] <zerak_away> xinit: connection refused
[04:13] <zerak_away> xinit: no such process
[04:13] <TheGateKeeper> should not need to use sudo
[04:13] <TheGateKeeper> to startx that is
[04:14] <zerak_away> no but hopefully didnt hurt
[04:15] <zerak_away> havent learned irssi, yet ( would be good now )
[04:19] <silvania> hi... just upgraded to 6.10 and... like all hardware acceleration on my grahpics card died.
[04:19] <Alter-Ego> is there a way to drop back from edgy to dapper ?
[04:19] <silvania> flash movies etc lagging, opengl out the window.
[04:19] <Alter-Ego> cause edgy is way to unstable for me
[04:20] <marcix> hespawn
[04:20] <marcix> i'm back
[04:20] <marcix> after blacklisted
[04:20] <marcix> same error
[04:21] <marcix> i didnt found my_blacklist but just blacklist
[04:21] <marcix> i don't know where to run update-module
[04:22] <ghostshadow189> hi all , wat must i do after i download a file of window decoration from kde-look ?
[04:25] <kimmern> Hey! I have a intel 82852/855GM video card, and can't get direct rendering working..when I run glxinfo |grep dri I only get:
[04:25] <kimmern> libGL error: InitDriver failed
[04:25] <kimmern> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[04:29] <nagyv> how can I found out which chipset is used in my builtin infrared port? which are the most common drivers?
[04:31] <londo4> hallo
[04:31] <londo4> is there someone who can help me with my kubuntu?
[04:32] <nagyv> londo4: that depends on your problem :) ask!
[04:32] <londo4> I`m newb and I need to know samething about kubuntu
[04:33] <Alter-Ego> !easysource
[04:33] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:33] <ccc> londo4: and the question is?
[04:33] <londo4> how can install skype into kubuntu?
[04:34] <ccc> !skype
[04:34] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:34] <ccc> there you go
[04:35] <londo4> I think I`ll never use windows again, I like kubuntu man
[04:35] <ccc> excellent choice :)
[04:36] <slinky_> hello, I installed kubuntu-desktop over Dapper and i seem to have background processes eating up cpu resources, top only shows xorg and kicker(KDEInit), any ideas?
[04:38] <londo4> I was traying to mount windows partition, I did like this: londo4@londo4-desktop:~$ sudo mount -l/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/ -t ntfs -o ro, umask=0222
[04:40] <nagyv> is it possible to control kde (amarok) with bluethooth?
[04:40] <londo4> and I get this Error: mount: invalid option -- /
[04:40] <slinky_> how do I find out what a particular program does? e.g. kicker; xorg; etc.
[04:41] <nagyv> slinky_: man xorg
[04:41] <nagyv> slinky_: man stands for manual
[04:41] <slinky_> nagyv: I seem to have a background task, hogging resources, any help?
[04:41] <nagyv> slinky_: a couple of graphical programs do not have man pages, do there remains kde's help or the internet
[04:42] <xwolf-> londo4 sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o ro,umask=0222
[04:42] <nagyv> slinky_: KSysGuard will show you which programs use most memory, its console alternative is top
[04:42] <xwolf-> !mp3
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:43] <xwolf-> slinky_ ksysguard should tell who's overloading, i guess.
[04:44] <slinky_> thank you xwolf :)
[04:45] <londo4> Are ubuntu 6.06 and kubuntu 6.06 the same?
[04:45] <Alter-Ego> or top
[04:46] <londo4> Are ubuntu 6.06 and kubuntu 6.06 the same?
[04:46] <Alter-Ego> londo4: yes, one has the gnome desktop and the other kde
[04:47] <flattersr> london 4 yes they are
[04:50] <Alter-Ego> londo4: guess which one has the kde desktop :-)
[04:52] <nagyv> Alter-Ego: actually the guess which one has the gnome desktop is a much harder question :)
[04:56] <arrautza_> how can i install nicotine on a amd 64? ... have ear that the installation is diferent
[04:56] <arrautza_> i have...
[04:56] <londo4> Kubuntu has Kde desktop
[04:57] <londo4> kubuntu has kde desktop
[04:58] <xst> Are there any easy way to install flash player 9 on edgy?
[04:58] <LjL> !flash9 | xst
[04:58] <ubotu> xst: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:00] <arrautza_> how can i know if my kubuntu version is dapper , edgy or something else?
[05:00] <Seveas> arrautza_, lsb_release -a
[05:00] <londo4> I`m trying to istall skype on kubuntu but I get this when I press Request Install: BREAK(install)
[05:00] <londo4> what can I do?
[05:00] <Seveas> !skype
[05:00] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:03] <londo4> I`m trying to istall skype on kubuntu but I get this when I press Request Install: BREAK(install)
[05:03] <londo4> what can I do?
[05:03] <londo4> Or what is the problem?
[05:03] <nagyv> hmm, do you have all the dependencies?
[05:04] <londo4> I don`t know I`m newbe I don`t know what dependencies is
[05:04] <arrautza_> there some source or package for nicotine?
[05:04] <crube> I'm installing a program from a .deb file, and I do know how to install it, but I was wondering if there's a way to get programs installed this way to show somewhere in case I want to unistall them
[05:04] <crube> The way they're displayed in synaptic
[05:04] <xst> After installing flash9 from  http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ firefox no longer thinks it has flash9. What to do?
[05:04] <crube> Or adept
[05:05] <Seveas> remove flash 7 from your homedir
[05:05] <Alter-Ego> anybody use bluefish on edgy ?
[05:05] <Alter-Ego> londo4: enable backports
[05:05] <ScarFreewill> how do I download with bittorrent if my isp blocks me?
[05:05] <nagyv> londo4: what did you tried to do? how did you tried to install skype?
[05:05] <londo4> I tried from adep manager
[05:06] <xst> Seveas: I don't have flash7 in my homedir
[05:06] <Alter-Ego> ScarFreewill: they are probally blocking the torrent protocall
[05:06] <Seveas> xst, find ~/.mozilla -iname '*flash*'
[05:06] <Alter-Ego> ScarFreewill: if they are smart
[05:06] <ScarFreewill> Alter-Ego is there any thing i can do about it?
[05:06] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm trying to compile GAIM-vv from source, and i'm getting an error on the ./configure that says " error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check"
[05:07] <Random_Transit> how do i fix this?
[05:07] <Seveas> !compiling | Random_Transit
[05:07] <ubotu> Random_Transit: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:07] <xst> Seveas: That command doesn't return anything
[05:07] <ScarFreewill> Alter-Ego i live in south africa so don't count on it...
[05:07] <Seveas> xst, check about:plugins in firefox
[05:07] <Alter-Ego> ScarFreewill: not sure.  tor/vidialia/onion, but that network is slow
[05:07] <xst> Seveas: Been there, done that. No flash :-(
[05:07] <nagyv> londo4: which repositories do you have?
[05:08] <skywalk> for installing skype try this one deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[05:08] <Seveas> xst, did you restart firefo after installing flash?
[05:08] <Alter-Ego> londo4: !easysource
[05:08] <ScarFreewill> Alter-Ego i have a 64kbit connection so ur slow is most probbably fast for me :P
[05:08] <Alter-Ego> :-)
[05:08] <xst> Seveas: Yep. I shut it down and opened it again. Several times
[05:08] <defrysk> xst, did you shut down al  firefoxes before testing ?
[05:08] <londo4> nagyv I did like this on adep manager: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[05:09] <Alter-Ego> unless it is a torrent, kget or wget works well
[05:09] <Seveas> xst, find /usr/lib/firefox -iname '*flash*'
[05:09] <Alter-Ego> i have used wget to download feodra 5+ cd's over several weeks, 600mb x 5
[05:09] <xst> defrysk: Yes
[05:09] <defrysk> xst, did you install a homebrew firefox ?
[05:09] <nagyv> londo4: so you have added the repository, did you updated your list?
[05:09] <ScarFreewill> Alter-Ego yeah i use them both for http/ftp dls... so whats this onion/vidialia...
[05:10] <Alter-Ego> a proxy/anon router
[05:10] <londo4> I added the repositor and I updated
[05:10] <nagyv> londo4: try this command in konsole: apt-get install skype this will give you which packages are missing and needed
[05:10] <xst> Seveas: There is no flash in /usr/lib/firefox either. Something might have gone wrong during the installation. It complained about some use of uninitialized values. Shall I paste the output to #flood?
[05:10] <londo4> ok
[05:10] <nagyv> londo4: sorry: sudo apt-get install skype
[05:11] <Seveas> xst, try paste.ubuntu-nl.org instead
[05:11] <londo4> ok
[05:11] <Seveas> xst, and this should work as well: sudo update-flashplugin
[05:11] <defrysk> xst, did you finish off the install like downloading flash and the user licence acceptance ?
[05:11] <ScarFreewill> i downloaded bittornado just incase if the are blocking the port but its been runing for an our and it has not downloaded 1 byte...
[05:12] <ScarFreewill> (its still trying to connect to peers...)
[05:12] <londo4> nagyv: I get this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:12] <xst> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32756/
[05:13] <nagyv> londo4: is adept still running? close it!
[05:13] <xst> defrysk: Yes
[05:13] <Seveas> xst, woah, debconf is messed up on your system
[05:14] <londo4> Ok, Sorry nagyv i forgot to close it
[05:14] <xst> Seveas: When I did an update-flashplugin, it worked
[05:14] <Seveas> xst, if you see more errors like this for different packages, try apt-get install --reinstall debconf
[05:15] <xst> ok, thanks
[05:16] <londo4> nagyv: now I get this, Rading package lists... done Building dependency tree... done
[05:17] <nagyv> londo4: wait, until it gives a list of packages to be installed or some error, because a package is not accessible
[05:18] <londo4> nagyv:  This is the Error: Some package could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[05:18] <londo4> bla bla bla bla bla
[05:19] <defrysk> londo4, 2 things , use synaptic instead of adept
[05:19] <defrysk> and do sudo apt-get -f install
[05:19] <nagyv> londo4: and there is no package name?
[05:19] <nagyv> defrysk: why should he force the install?
[05:19] <defrysk> fix
[05:19] <defrysk> not force
[05:19] <xst> Would it harm my system to do a reinstall of debconf or will something probably brake if I do it?
[05:19] <skywalk> londo4: did you try to add some other repository to your /etc/apt/soure.list file ? may be this operation will become easier
[05:20] <linuxbomb> IS EDGY WORTH IT?
[05:20] <defrysk> linuxbomb, caps are not
[05:20] <stefano> ciao
[05:20] <londo4> I don`t know how to use /etc/apt/soure.list file
[05:20] <khirr> how can i run flash in linux?
[05:20] <defrysk> !sources.list
[05:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:20] <webben> linuxbomb, worth what?
[05:21] <linuxbomb> the upgrade
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, Depends on what you use your box for
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, in general yes
[05:21] <londo4> skywalk--- I don`t know how to use /etc/apt/source.list file
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, but Ubuntu Dapper is a Long-Term release
[05:21] <skywalk> londo4: it's easiey, may be your provider has a mirror repository; the repository list is on kubuntu/debian home page
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, so it should be a little more stable
[05:21] <linuxbomb> is edgy stable?
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, it is stable
[05:22] <webben> linuxbomb, all Ubuntu releases are stable
[05:22] <defrysk> its released so its stable
[05:22] <webben> linuxbomb, but it's not /as/ stable
[05:22] <defrysk> is better then dapper on desktop
[05:22] <defrysk> more stable
[05:22] <webben> linuxbomb, but you may wish to stick with dapper for the moment for a server
[05:22] <webben> linuxbomb, it all depends really
[05:22] <defrysk> serverusage should use dapper lts indeed
[05:23] <bobbyd> linuxbomb: if you have courier imap installed, dont' update. Unless it's fixed it totally screws your install
[05:23] <khirr> !flash
[05:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:23] <londo4> nagyv. I think this is the package: librtel
[05:23] <skywalk> londo4: you have to add this line to source.list in the /etc/apt/ directory
[05:24] <defrysk> its sources.list
[05:24] <defrysk> not source.list
[05:24] <defrysk> skywalk, make sure to spell correctly
[05:24] <skywalk> londo4: "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free"
[05:25] <nagyv> skywalk: he already has it, I think
[05:25] <londo4> skywalk, how can I do that, sorry I`m newbe on linux
[05:25] <skywalk> londo4: then you must update the apt-get source list with apt-get update
[05:25] <javier> buenas tardes :)
[05:25] <linuxbomb> thanks for your help -> have an icon i made http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=45595
[05:25] <defrysk> its sources.list
[05:25] <skywalk> londo4. and the giving the line command in the konsole  "apt-get install skype"
[05:25] <skywalk> londo4: be sur it works
[05:26] <skywalk> yes, it's sources list, .... sorry, too fast fingers writing
[05:27] <skywalk> ...or bad english writer :)
[05:27] <defrysk> just spell correctly otherwise nothing will work for him
[05:28] <defrysk> skywalk, and why are you loggesd in as root ?
[05:28] <skywalk> i think using the tab he will resolve spelling problems...
[05:28] <londo4> skywalk--- How can I get in source,list?
[05:28] <skywalk> it's  a training pc and i'm doing expriments...
[05:28] <nagyv> londo4: are you using edgy or dapper?
[05:28] <londo4> dapper
[05:29] <skywalk> i didn't think to chat today but now i'm here...
[05:29] <defrysk> londo4, its /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:29] <defrysk> skywalk mispelled
[05:29] <nagyv> londo4: cool, then I will give you my sources.list file, you just have to overwrite yours, and it will work, is this good for you?
[05:29] <skywalk> londo4: cd /etc/apt/
[05:29] <skywalk> londo4: vi sources.list
[05:29] <defrysk> hes even logged in as root fgs
[05:30] <londo4> kubuntu 6.06 lts
[05:30] <nagyv> skywalk: I am using Linux as a non-programmer since more then an year, but always try to avoid vi :)
[05:30] <defrysk> nagyv, nano ftw
[05:30] <Hawkwind> Nothing wrong with using vi, it simply works
[05:30] <skywalk> i use linux since 1993 and i love vi
[05:31] <skywalk> but nano is also good
[05:31] <skywalk> also kate in graphical mode
[05:31] <defrysk> nano is easyer for new users
[05:31] <londo4> nagyv--- I did it
[05:31] <nagyv> Hawkwind: yes, once you learn it, but it is very strange for an ex-windows user
[05:31] <defrysk> skywalk, started with slackware ?
[05:31] <skywalk> or any other... themust is to put the line in
[05:31] <larss0n> Ni r allt ett gng rara killar hr i denna kanalen ^
[05:31] <londo4> and now
[05:31] <nagyv> londo4: what?
[05:31] <defrysk> !no
[05:31] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[05:31] <skywalk> i started with red hat
[05:31] <Hawkwind> larss0n: English please
[05:32] <larss0n> Ni r allt ett gng rara killar hr i denna kanalen ^
[05:32] <larss0n> isaid
[05:32] <londo4> what you told me to do
[05:32] <defrysk> !de
[05:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:32] <Hawkwind> larss0n: English please
[05:32] <defrysk> !da
[05:32] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[05:32] <nagyv> londo4: it was someone else, I think
[05:32] <khirr> !apt-get
[05:32] <skywalk> londo: cd /etc/apt/
[05:32] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:32] <larss0n> svenska
[05:32] <defrysk> !su
[05:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:32] <defrysk> hehe
[05:32] <nagyv> !se
[05:32] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[05:33] <londo4> ok
[05:33] <defrysk> got the complete polar area by now :s
[05:33] <LjL> took a few attempts didn't it
[05:33] <londo4> ok, nagyv, how can I edit my source.list?
[05:33] <nagyv> skywalk: it's up to you to tell him how to use vi! :)
[05:33] <skywalk> londo4: then you have to write      nano sources.list
[05:33] <Hawkwind> londo4: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.lis
[05:33] <defrysk> sources.list londo4
[05:33] <defrysk> its sources.list
[05:33] <Hawkwind> londo4: Replace kwrite with your favorite GUI editor of choice
[05:34] <skywalk> sources.list
[05:34] <Hawkwind> londo4: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <nagyv> Hawkwind: yess! the "user v1.0" friendly way
[05:34] <Hawkwind> Darn typos
[05:34] <defrysk> Hawkwind, sources.list
[05:34] <defrysk> Hawkwind, spell correctly please
[05:34] <Hawkwind> defrysk: I know that.  It was a typo
[05:34] <Hawkwind> defrysk: Chill
[05:34] <tchize> Hello, i have made a dapper -> edgy upgrade here. However, neither kernel 386 neither kernel generic does boot. All i get is a blank cursor on screen. I still have the dapper kernel, but i'd like to fix this.
[05:34] <chx> ok, after half a day of googling, experimenting and lots of swearing I found modesetting drivers at http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/xserver-xorg-video-i810/ . Is there a central list of what's there on people.ubuntu.com ?
[05:35] <defrysk> tchize, try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:36] <tchize> defrysk: it refuse tu install, it says it depends on 3 packages that won't get installed
[05:36] <defrysk> tchize, to install all missing packages
[05:36] <defrysk> tchize, sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[05:36] <defrysk> try that
[05:36] <defrysk> tchize, and make sure your sources.list is correct
[05:37] <tchize> defrysk: don't works the fix-missing. Still says the same
[05:37] <defrysk> tchize, pastebin your sources.list
[05:37] <tchize> defrysk: mys sources.list has all pointed to edgy repository, no errors on apt-get update
[05:37] <defrysk> try sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:37] <defrysk> aptitude has more power
[05:38] <londo4> It is allot of information man how can I tolk with someone prived?
[05:38] <defrysk> londo4, in your case i would download the skype package manually
[05:38] <skywalk> londo4 i tried to send you a private message but i'm not registered so i can't
[05:39] <defrysk> skywalk, tell him how to download it manually and install it
[05:39] <tchize> defrysk: it propose lots of changes. Amongst those: 'kubuntu-desktop, keep uninstalled' :s
[05:39] <londo4> ok, i`m not also
[05:39] <webben> I updated to 2nd development snapshot of KDE but qmake-qt4 has disappeared
[05:39] <silvania> can anyone help me? My opengl and 3d acceleration is gone when i upgraded to kubuntu 6.10, i tried a guide to setup nvidia card, but that just broke the X completely.
[05:39] <webben> how to I get it for the 2nd dev snapshot?
[05:39] <londo4> skywalk how can download it manualy?
[05:39] <defrysk> tchize, pastebin your sources.list please
[05:41] <londo4> Hallo matias, tudo bem?
[05:41] <skywalk> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[05:41] <londo4> Matias-----falas portugues?
[05:42] <defrysk> !po
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <nagyv> londo4: you should now download it, because then you won't get the updates
[05:42] <LjL> !pt | londo4
[05:42] <ubotu> londo4: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:42] <defrysk> londo4, help in your lingo might be much easyer for you
[05:43] <tchize> defrysk: http://pastebin.com/828155
[05:43] <nagyv> londo4: copy this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32758/
[05:43] <nagyv> to your sources.list file
[05:44] <nagyv> after run an apt-get update, and install skype
[05:44] <nagyv> londo4: if you do not want amarok1.4.1, then you do not need the my last line
[05:44] <skywalk> hi londo4, hi defrysk it's time to go :)
[05:45] <defrysk> tchize, you dont have multiverse added
[05:45] <defrysk> later skywalk have a good one
[05:45] <tchize> defrysk: why woul i need multivers for a kernel?
[05:46] <defrysk> tchize, who knows , u did use multiverse in the previous vesrsion ?
[05:46] <skywalk> tx.
[05:46] <tchize> i never activated multiverse :/
[05:46] <Hawkwind> tchize: You don't need multiverse for kernels
[05:46] <defrysk> tchize, I see
[05:46] <tchize> defrysk: ok i got kubuntu-desktop installed
[05:47] <defrysk> tchize, upgrading from dapper to edgy is also not guaranteed
[05:47] <tchize> yep but i'd like not to have to reinstall my beast
[05:47] <defrysk> tchize, now do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:47] <LjL> tchize, don't know what the problem is, but you don't have edgy-updates enabled for universe. that can't be good, since you have it enabled for main and restricted
[05:48] <defrysk> LjL, well spotted
[05:48] <defrysk> missed that one
[05:48] <tchize> ok, removing
[05:48] <londo4> nagyv, one of the problem is that I can not find apt-get update on my K-menu
[05:48] <nagyv> londo4: you do not need it, just run adept, and there will be an update button
[05:48] <defrysk> tchize, adding you mean ?
[05:49] <LjL> tchize: ah, wait, you don't have security enabled either for universe! which is even worse
[05:49] <nagyv> londo4: or just run the command sudo apt-get update
[05:49] <webben> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php documentation has a serious error
[05:49] <LjL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#head-e1a24b1b2037f68b5a95f54388582b58ea4c9bd0 tchize
[05:49] <tchize> LjL: i read somewher there is no security update for universe, only for the main :/
[05:49] <webben> surely export KDEHOME=/home//.kde4 should read export KDEHOME=~/.kde4 ?
[05:50] <defrysk> tchize, may i advise you advise to remove the old breezy entries to avoid clutter ?
[05:50] <defrysk> tchize, did you install compiz and related in dapper ?
[05:50] <LjL> tchize: not true, i don't think
[05:50] <tchize> Ok, which lines do i change in my sources.list?
[05:50] <defrysk> tchize, remove all compiz and related
[05:51] <[Cult] Proji> how do you apply a debdiff?
[05:51] <tchize> defrysk: i removed all compiz related stuff before commenting the line, that was weeks ago
[05:51] <defrysk> tchize, good :)
[05:51] <tchize> how do i enabled 'edgy updates' ??
[05:52] <LjL> tchize i'd try like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32760/
[05:53] <LjL> tchize: i didn't touch the first three lines, since they were commented out anyway - but they'd definitely have to be changed for edgy if you wanted to enable them again
[05:53] <nagyv> arrrrgh, how can I switch off this f....d up autocompletion for the open file dialog?
[05:54] <defrysk> tchize, one more question, did you use automatix in dapper ?
[05:54] <tchize> defrysk: no problem, i'll just remove them :)
[05:54] <nagyv> wow, I just noticed that it is only for the gtk applications (like firefox), not for the real kde ones (kate)
[05:55] <tchize> ok did add edgy-updates universe and security, did a dist-upgrade, all it altered is my libpng3 :)
[05:55] <tchize> i doubt this solve my kernel problem :D
[05:55] <defrysk> sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <LjL> nagyv: KDE file boxes have autocompletion too, but it works differently - it doesn't just complete filenames on your input line without you doing anything
[05:55] <tchize> defrysk: what is automatix?
[05:55] <defrysk> after fixing sources.list
[05:55] <LjL> !automatix
[05:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[05:55] <tchize> did the update before too, obviously ;)
[05:55] <defrysk> tchize, correct answer
[05:55] <LjL> heh
[05:56] <defrysk> forget automatix and stay away from it :)
[05:56] <nagyv> LjL: I realized it, and I really like the kde way, but the gtk solution simply runs me crazy
[05:56] <nagyv> londo4: how is your skype going?
[05:56] <defrysk> tchize, try sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:57] <defrysk> tchize, dos aptitude resolve properly ?
[05:57] <defrysk> does*
[05:57] <tchize> defrysk: it keeps saying i should remove python2.4
[05:57] <londo4> i`m stil trying
[05:58] <cox377> Hello all, how do i set thunderbird as my default mail client, so when i rigt click on a file to send via email it does it via thundebird
[05:58] <nagyv> londo4: did you managed to copy the sources.list file I gave to you?
[05:58] <LjL> nagyv, me too for that matter. that's why i try and keep a KDE-only system ;)
[05:58] <defrysk> tchize, sudo aptitude install python
[05:58] <nagyv> cox377: under system settings->kde components
[05:58] <londo4> ys
[05:59] <defrysk> what does it say now ?
[05:59] <cox377> nagyv: cheers, shall take a look
[05:59] <tchize> defrysk: it's already replcing python right now :)
[05:59] <nagyv> LjL: yes, but firefox simply sucks, I like it so much
[05:59] <defrysk> tchize, cool
[05:59] <defrysk> after doe a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:59] <tchize> defrysk: it's already the dist-upgrade :D
[05:59] <LjL> nagyv, i think i read somewhere of something to make you use KDE dialogs in firefox (or GTK programs in general, don't remember). can't find it in the repos, so it was either from a web site, or i have imagined it
[05:59] <defrysk> tchize, aptitude is powerful but you need to be cautious with it
[05:59] <tchize> i just accepted the aptitude proposition :p
[06:00] <defrysk> tchize, good stuff :)
[06:00] <nagyv> LjL: I also read something about it, but when I tried to realize it nothing happened :(
[06:00] <LjL> nagyv: ah i guess this was it http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077
[06:00] <defrysk> gonna make a cuppa
[06:00] <LjL> not that i've tried it
[06:00] <cox377> nagyv: it's already set to thunderbird, but when i carry out the action it says "can't find kfind" you got any further ideas?
[06:01] <tchize> ok aptitude has nothing more to say to me except that foomatic-filters-ppds is broken
[06:01] <nagyv> cox377: is it starting you any programs?
[06:01] <tchize> what next at kernel level? :)
[06:02] <cox377> nagyv: nah, just comes up saying cannot find the kmail program
[06:02] <cox377> but it's not set to kmail, it's set to thunderbird
[06:02] <nagyv> cox377: it can not find kfind or kmail?
[06:02] <defrysk> tchize, aptitude install foomatic-filters-ppds
[06:02] <cox377> nagyv: kmail*** sorry
[06:03] <nagyv> cox377: restart kde (who knows :) )
[06:03] <cox377> nagyv: lol, it's a prob i've always had never got round to trying to fix it
[06:04] <LjL> nagyv: uhm, it seems you might also try going to about:config and changing the value of "ui.allow_platform_file_picker" (from true to false i suppose)
[06:04] <tchize> defrysk: it says it's already latest version :)
[06:05] <nagyv> cox377: does this happens from konqueror?
[06:05] <defrysk> tchize, good
[06:06] <cox377> nagyv: what exactly do u mean?
[06:06] <defrysk> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again tchize
[06:06] <nagyv> if you click on an e-mail link in konqueror, do you have the same problem?
[06:06] <defrysk> see what it does
[06:06] <tchize> defrysk: ok, aptitude dist-upgrade now says everything is ok
[06:06] <LjL> nagyv, try the ui.allow_platform_file_picker thing - it doesn't use KDE dialogs, but it does give you dialogs that don't auto-complete like gnome's
[06:06] <defrysk> tchize, now sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <defrysk> tchize, and then you should be done
[06:07] <nagyv> LjL: I do not have such a setting, but I will add it
[06:07] <tchize> says latest version is installed, nothing to do
[06:07] <LjL> nagyv, besides, do your Gnome file dialogs appear with a white background as well in Edgy? (assuming you use gtk-qt-engine; this didn't happen in dapper for me, and another thing is that, if i start a GTK program from the console, the colors are messed up)
[06:07] <defrysk> tchize, then you are done afaIk
[06:07] <tchize> defrysk: er, we did not touch anything at kernel problem :/
[06:07] <LjL> nagyv, then perhaps you're on dapper?
[06:07] <LjL> nagyv, that settings is in firefox 2.0
[06:08] <defrysk> tchize, whats the kernel prob ?
[06:08] <nagyv> LjL: I just had to add the setting as a new logical value
[06:08] <tchize> defrysk: does not boot, black screen with blank cursor, generic and 386, same problem
[06:09] <nagyv> cox377: if you click on an e-mail link in konqueror, do you have the same problem?
[06:09] <LjL> nagyv: weird, it was there by default (set to true) here
[06:09] <defrysk> tchize, did the new kernel install ?
[06:09] <tchize> yes
[06:09] <nagyv> LjL: I do use dapper
[06:09] <tchize> there was no package problem with kernel package
[06:09] <defrysk> hmm
[06:09] <LjL> nagyv: ah, ok - but that's weird as well, because that setting as far as i could understand isn't *supposed* to work with firefox < 2.0... :o)
[06:09] <defrysk> not sure
[06:10] <tchize> i can issue an aptitude reinstall on kernel pacakge to be sure :/
[06:10] <defrysk> tchize, use apt-get
[06:10] <defrysk> aptitude is for emergencies
[06:11] <cox377> nagyv: not sure, 2 secs i shall check
[06:11] <tchize> defrysk: apt-get has no 'reinstall' :)
[06:11] <defrysk> tchize, --reinstall
[06:11] <nagyv> londo4: how is it going?
[06:11] <tchize> arf
[06:11] <defrysk> ;p
[06:11] <tchize> ok, did it with aptitude :)
[06:11] <defrysk> cool
[06:11] <tchize> rebooting :)
[06:11] <londo4> nagvy, big problem up here
[06:11] <cox377> nagyv: nah, that actually opens the link in thunderbird
[06:12] <londo4> I can`t open my adep
[06:12] <defrysk> also check the fstab for its modified in 6.10
[06:12] <nagyv> cox377: yeah, so the application you would like to use is not fully integrated into kde, you should set this somewhere in that application. Is it firefox?
[06:13] <tchize> defrysk: still same behaviour, i get kubuntu splash, then i get black screen with blinking cursor :/
[06:13] <cox377> nagyv: well when i want to send a file that's on my desktop, i right click - Actions/email file
[06:14] <defrysk> tchize, you need a specialist in this
[06:14] <defrysk> <-- not
[06:14] <defrysk> tchize, run dmesg
[06:14] <defrysk> see where it fails
[06:14] <tchize> defrysk: well dmesg, to run it, it need the kernel to boot :)
[06:15] <defrysk> lol
[06:15] <nagyv> cox377: for me it seems to be a bug, try to get some help in the #kde channel or file a bug report
[06:15] <defrysk> tchize, doe you have your stuff backed up on that box ?
[06:15] <defrysk> on is from
[06:16] <tchize> defrysk: i can still boot the older kernel (dapper one) with no problem
[06:16] <defrysk> tchize, thats good
[06:16] <defrysk> does it say startup..... whan you boot ?
[06:16] <defrysk> when
[06:16] <defrysk> with the new kernel ?
[06:16] <defrysk> before the bootsplash that is
[06:17] <londo4> nagyv, are you there?
[06:17] <nagyv> londo4: yep
[06:17] <defrysk> tchize, sudo apt-get install startup-tasks
[06:18] <londo4> I can`t open the adep
[06:18] <londo4> adept
[06:18] <nagyv> londo4: run an apt-get update from the console
[06:19] <tchize> defrysk: starting in alternate load, i get boot message, then i get this load drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6 then nothing more
[06:19] <defrysk> tchize, sudo apt-get install startup-tasks
[06:19] <tchize> defrysk booting old kernel right now :p
[06:19] <defrysk> :D
[06:19] <tchize> a moment please :D
[06:19] <ubuntu> Bonjour
[06:20] <ubuntu> J'ia besoin d'aide
[06:20] <nagyv> !fr
[06:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:20] <defrysk> !info startuptasks | tchize
[06:20] <tchize> defrysk: already latest version
[06:20] <londo4> it says E: unable to lock the list directory
[06:20] <ubotu> Package startuptasks does not exist in any distro I know
[06:20] <defrysk> shit
[06:20] <nagyv> ubuntu: ici utilisez anglais
[06:21] <londo4> nagyv--- Unable to lock the list directory
[06:21] <nagyv> londo4: (when in the console you get a locked process error, then adept says nothing)
[06:21] <nagyv> londo4: probably when you were trying to install from the command line did not finished the process properly
[06:21] <n3storm> hi everyone
[06:21] <defrysk> tchize, My advise is to go to #ubuntu , its a bigger channel with more g33ks
[06:21] <nagyv> londo4: are there any other adept/konsoles running in which an apt-get is running?
[06:22] <defrysk> and better geeks perhaps
[06:22] <londo4> I don`t any
[06:22] <Dr_willis> defrysk,  Bah! :)
[06:23] <defrysk> Dr_willis, ;p
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I like it here... less..... ranting..
[06:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:23] <nagyv> londo4: alright, then go and delete the file mentioned in the error message
[06:23] <tchize> defrysk: ok
[06:23] <nagyv> londo4: you can delete it only as root: kdesu konqueror will help
[06:23] <defrysk> Dr_willis, if you can help tchize be my guest :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I just woke up.. im lucky to even find the keyboard...
[06:24] <defrysk> lol
[06:24] <bubu1uk> !cz
[06:24] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> and if hes having probmenms from doing a 'upgrade' to edgy... well.. I always do a clean install...
[06:25] <defrysk> agree
[06:26] <tchize> but i don't want to have to do a 'clean install' every 6 months :/
[06:27] <Dr_willis> i keep /home on its own partition.. and i do a clean install...
[06:27] <nagyv> tchize: and do you need the recent OS? (it was hard to say no, but I finally arrived to it) I plan to have dapper at least until midterm, so I can switch to the next LTS in two steps
[06:28] <Dr_willis> very few issues.. and yes the  upgrade to Edgy is a HUGE jump. Im suprised any upgrades worked.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:28] <XVampireX> Edgy wasn't a huge jump
[06:28] <defrysk> Dr_willis, my upgrade worked ;)
[06:28] <defrysk> from breezy > dapper > edgy
[06:28] <nagyv> XVampireX: he just woke up, that was a huge jump! :)
[06:29] <tchize> nagyv: wanted to have that hibernation thing, a less verbose boot too
[06:29] <XVampireX> nagyv: What?
[06:29] <defrysk> but its for my wive's pc
[06:29] <tchize> for the less verbose boot, am happy, there is *nothing* :D
[06:29] <Dr_willis> I just installed "Linux Mint" on my laptop. :)
[06:29] <Dr_willis> to test it out.
[06:29] <defrysk> Dr_willis, mint does gnome iIac
[06:29] <Dr_willis> interesting varient of ubuntu.
[06:29] <nagyv> tchize: I know this feeling, I would like to have it too, but I do not have a day every half an year for some new cool things :(
[06:29] <Dr_willis> defrysk,  yep. so i installed kubuntu-desktop :)
[06:30] <XVampireX> Soon Linux Mint will be useless
[06:30] <Dr_willis> XVampireX,  perhaps.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> XVampireX,  we can hope.
[06:30] <defrysk> Dr_willis, amarok was preinstalled right ?
[06:30] <XVampireX> Feisty Fawn
[06:30] <Dr_willis> defrysk,  not sure. let me check
[06:30] <defrysk> i think it was
[06:30] <defrysk> so video codecs and audio codecs are there
[06:30] <Dr_willis> I know that mp3, flash, and most  videos worked.
[06:30] <filipsss> some Brazilian here???
[06:31] <Dr_willis> I dont think it had the wireelss stuff i needed
[06:31] <defrysk> wich is cool
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Ive got no dvd's so cant test that part.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:31] <defrysk> hehe
[06:31] <defrysk> now for the christian ubuntu
[06:31] <defrysk> hindu ubuntu
[06:31] <defrysk> il=slam ubuntu
[06:31] <defrysk> islam*
[06:32] <jamonation> athiest
[06:32] <defrysk> and not to forget , the aboriginal ubuntu
[06:32] <defrysk> didgeridoo ubuntoo
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Been playing with PuppyLinux on my other machines.. we need a "Mini-Ubuntu!"
[06:33] <defrysk> a net install ubuntu would be nice
[06:33] <skipjack> Who can I edit runlevels (init.d) entries  like kdm to start or not start? chkconfig isn't found on system is there an other tool in the console ?
[06:33] <defrysk> time for a dogwalk
[06:34] <Dr_willis> kdm/gdm are started by services
[06:34] <Dr_willis> you can just delete th entry in the #2 runlevel. or use the sysv tools to manage them
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Ive never used chkconfig - isent that disrto specific?
[06:35] <skipjack> Dr_willis:  I think it is distro. specific ..
[06:35] <Dr_willis> I think theres a similer tool. but not sure of the name rc-SOMTHING
[06:35] <skipjack> hmm oky but there isn't any tool to configurate them only deleting  the services files ?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> There a great many tools. :)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> I know how to delet them by hand.. and its faster for me.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> KDE has a 'systems services' tool in the contorl center.
[06:37] <tchize> ok, going thru a poor reinstall :'(
[06:38] <flattersr> hi room
[06:38] <flattersr> does anyone know where to set the super user password
[06:38] <tchize> flattersr: in a console, type sudo passwd
[06:40] <flattersr> cheer for that tchize
[06:40] <flattersr> will note that down for future refernce
[06:41] <claudiu> good evening
[06:41] <tchize> flattersr: well technically you shouldn't need to type that passwd, unless you need to install some oddities :)
[06:41] <londo4> nagyv, are you there?
[06:41] <nagyv> londo4: yep
[06:41] <londo4> I can`t open konsole, adept
[06:41] <flattersr> well im trying to installs some stuff from terminal
[06:41] <nagyv> londo4: you can't open konsole?
[06:42] <londo4> nop
[06:42] <flattersr> hense it keep on asking for the super user password
[06:42] <claudiu> how can i set a custom timeout for "apt-get update" because some repositories take forever to respond ?
[06:42] <nagyv> londo4: how do you try to open it?
[06:43] <londo4> now is ok, angyv
[06:43] <nagyv> flattersr: you should run the install program as sudo or give a password to the superuser
[06:43] <nagyv> londo4: so, did you deleted the lock file?
[06:44] <claudiu> can anyone tell me how can i set a custom timeout for "apt-get update" because some repositories take forever to respond ?
[06:44] <londo4> can i delet from konsole?
[06:44] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[06:44] <londo4> because I put apt-get update
[06:44] <claudiu> how can i set a custom lower timeout for "apt-get update" because some repositories take forever to respond ?
[06:44] <[Cult] Proji> still not got my wireless to work :(
[06:44] <nagyv> claudiu: we have read your question, but probably we don't know the answer or are just thinking about,  be patient (set a higher timeout for yourself :) )
[06:44] <londo4> I get this Error
[06:45] <nagyv> londo4: is this the error :)
[06:45] <claudiu> nagyv: sorry, ok
[06:45] <londo4> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied
[06:45] <nagyv> londo4: do you have midnight commander installed? try running sudo mc
[06:45] <nagyv> londo4: this is what I expected :)
[06:46] <nagyv> so, try sudo mc
[06:46] <nagyv> !patient
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <londo4> sudo: mc: command not found
[06:46] <tchize> claudiu: don't know exactly, never tried, but there is timeout related documentation in 'man apt.conf'
[06:46] <nagyv> !patience | nagyv
[06:46] <ubotu> nagyv: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:46] <claudiu> tchize: thanks a lot. i'll read that
[06:47] <londo4> nagyv--- sudo: mc: command not found
[06:47] <nagyv> then run kdesu konqueror
[06:47] <nagyv> londo4: ^^^
[06:47] <nagyv> londo4: this will open a konqueror window as super user, navigate to /var/lib/apt/lists/
[06:48] <nagyv> londo4: and delete the lock file
[06:48] <ypsila> good evening
[06:49] <ypsila> |Pazuzu: *kicher*
[06:50] <|Pazuzu> ypsila der aufruf : alle deutschen nach #kuntu-de ?
[06:50] <|Pazuzu> *#kubuntu-de
[06:50] <kingduct> Hello, I just installed kubuntu with the alternate CD.  It never asked for a username or password.  I rebooted when it finished and I have no idea what the default username and password are.  Any ideas?
[06:50] <ypsila> |Pazuzu: you mean #kubuntu-de
[06:51] <|Pazuzu> right ypsila
[06:51] <keith> I need some help @.@  I just installed Edgy on my laptop, and I ran Automatix and all that good stuff, then rebooted, and now I can't login to KDE
[06:51] <keith> It will just show me the KDM background after I put in my password, and go no further
[06:52] <flattersr> when you first switch it on does the system give you the option to duel boot
[06:53] <flattersr> or have you got it 100% linux
[06:54] <LjL> !automatix | keith
[06:54] <ubotu> keith: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[06:54] <[Cult] Proji> i've found a debdiff that shiould fix the edgy wlassistant issues, was just wondering how i'm meant to apply it
[06:54] <londo4> nagyv I can`t find this /var/lib/apt/lists
[06:54] <londo4> from konqueror
[06:54] <Dr_willis> try the shell.
[06:54] <keith> LjL: So you think Automatix broke my system?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> it exists. :)
[06:55] <LjL> keith: could be, it's always kind of hard to tell what automatix does unfortunately
[06:55] <mikepence> anyone know of a way to assign keystrokes to switching desktops in pager?
[06:55] <kingduct> why didn't the alternate install CD ask for a username and password?  I finished the install, and I have no idea how to login because I don't know the default user and password?
[06:55] <LjL> keith: perhaps you might want to take a look at /var/log/kdm.log
[06:55] <Dr_willis> kingduct,  Hmm.. it should of asked for a user/password at end of the install.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> kingduct,   you dident  tell it to use 'root' as the user when it asked did you?
[06:56] <kingduct> argh...is there a default or must I try to install again?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> There is no default.. i find it hard that you just missed the requestor.
[06:56] <kingduct> when did it ask?  I just waited forever while it installed and then it told me to take out the CD.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Its always asked me.
[06:56] <LjL> kingduct, boot with "init=/bin/sh" as a kernel parameter, do "cat /etc/passwd", and see if there is an user (should have ID 1000)
[06:57] <nagyv> londo4: try under /var/lib/dpkg
[06:57] <kingduct> okay, thank you...I'll get back if I need more help.
[06:57] <kingduct> looks like maybe I just forgot my password...
[06:58] <Dr_willis> thats why i always use 'password' :)
[06:58] <londo4> nop
[06:58] <Dr_willis> You typed it in not 5 min ago and allready frogot it. :)
[06:58] <ypsila> Dr_willis: you use "password" as pw?
[06:58] <nagyv> londo4: you can not find this directory?
[06:59] <mikepence> ah, ctrl + F<desktop>
[06:59] <kingduct> well, I started the install while I was still asleep and the computer took about 2 hours to install (old computer).  I am busy trying all of the passwords I ever use...
[06:59] <londo4> nagyv--- nop
[06:59] <LjL> why not? i use "pw" though, it's shorter to type
[06:59] <PR006> hiall
[06:59] <nagyv> londo4: I am really surprised. Just type: /var/lib/dpkg in the address bar of konqueror
[07:00] <kingduct> while I am on here, can I use a xubuntu or ubuntu CD to install more programs to my kubuntu distro?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> ypsila,  :)
[07:00] <PR006> kingduct, sure
[07:00] <tchize> mm nice edgy installer won't recognize my lvms :s
[07:00] <Dr_willis> username root, password: toor
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Heh.
[07:00] <kingduct> will synaptic just search for them?
[07:01] <jesse__> not synaptic but adept
[07:01] <Dr_willis> kingduct,  ya could..  but i find it easier to just get them off the internet. since that will also get the updates if any.
[07:01] <Makro2> hello
[07:01] <jesse__> Dr_willis:> I can't, I still don
[07:01] <PR006> hi Makro2
[07:02] <londo4> it ok, now
[07:02] <jesse__> Dr_willis:> I can't, I still don't know how
[07:02] <londo4> nagyv its ok now
[07:02] <Makro2> is there any way to run a filesystem onto another?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  huh?
[07:02] <nagyv> londo4: so, delete the "lock" file
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Makro2,  Huh?
[07:03] <jesse__> I dont' know how to update the 'sources' list of the adept package manager
[07:03] <londo4> nagyv-- Ok
[07:03] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  fire up adept click the check box's at the top to use the other repos... start installing..
[07:03] <londo4> I delleted it
[07:03] <nagyv> londo4: now run apt-get update
[07:03] <Dr_willis> or use the package manager menu/settings to enable them... OR manually edit the sources.list
[07:03] <Dr_willis> !adept
[07:03] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:04] <Dr_willis> actually its that 'add/remove programs' adept variant that has the check box's i think.
[07:04] <Makro2> i mean to "run" another filesystem onto another running, like if i want to use older programs installed on an older linux parition on a hard disk and i want to mount that partition and use it as another o.s. running in a window.....
[07:04] <londo4> angyv--- E: could not open  lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Makro2,  chroot to the other install. and run stuff.. is possible.
[07:05] <londo4> - op (13 permission denied)
[07:05] <nagyv> londo4: hmm, now try to locate this file, and delete it (as before)
[07:05] <jesse__> Dr. Willis:> i did, their all check but I still can't get the application i want to install
[07:05] <londo4> ok
[07:05] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  and the app is?
[07:06] <jesse__> kmymoney
[07:06] <Dr_willis> !info kmymoney
[07:06] <ubotu> Package kmymoney does not exist in any distro I know
[07:06] <Dr_willis> aparently its not in the repos jesse__
[07:06] <Dr_willis> !find mymoney
[07:06] <ubotu> Found: kmymoney2
[07:06] <jesse__> I know I did it
[07:06] <Makro2> Dr_willis: with that method the programs will look on my first os the thinge they need, and will not find nothing, so an error message will appear
[07:06] <Dr_willis> there we go..
[07:06] <Dr_willis> !info kmymoney2
[07:06] <ubotu> kmymoney2: Personal finance manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-4 (edgy), package size 6913 kB, installed size 14184 kB
[07:06] <jesse__> it's not there
[07:06] <jesse__> at all
[07:07] <jesse__> my disto is Dapper-drake
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Its in edgy... i just installed it.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> thats your problem then. its not in Dapper aparently
[07:08] <jesse__> I am using Adept Package manager
[07:08] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  so... if its NOT in the dapper repos.. its not in the repos..
[07:08] <Dr_willis> unless theres some alternative repos.
[07:08] <jesse__> Is there anyway i can still get it?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Not sure how to make the bot search the dapper repos only.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  you could always use the source I guess.
[07:09] <defrysk> !info firefox > dapper
[07:09] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[07:09] <defrysk> !info  firefox | daper
[07:09] <defrysk> !info  firefox | daper
[07:09] <defrysk> !info  firefox | dapper
[07:09] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[07:09] <jesse__> ok but if something goes wrong i will ask
[07:10] <defrysk> no clue
[07:11] <jesse__> and I'm not using firefox i am using Konqueror
[07:12] <filipsss> algum brasileiro?
[07:12] <defrysk> !pt
[07:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:14] <jesse__> does any one know where i can find the source package or the deb package for the C compiler
[07:17] <trella> J #/kanotix
[07:18] <londo4> angyv---> I did apt-get update, I have 2 error: Err http://package.freecontrib.org dapper relase
[07:18] <cntb> hp laser printer connected to want to share a printer for windows machine
[07:18] <nagyv> londo4: cool! :)
[07:18] <jesse__> thanks
[07:19] <cntb> hp laser printer connected locally  want to share that printer for windows machine to print
[07:19] <londo4> and Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages 404 not found
[07:19] <londo4> is thit normal?
[07:19] <cntb> !samba
[07:19] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:19] <kpenrose> Help!!  Added new user - none in sudoers - can't do anything as root!! What can I do??
[07:20] <cntb> !swat
[07:20] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:20] <londo4> angyv--: What can I do now?
[07:20] <londo4> Are this 2 err normal? angyv?
[07:21] <nagyv> londo4: more or less :) you will have to add the authentication key to this repository
[07:21] <nagyv> londo4: first try the instructions here, under authenticated packages: http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/
[07:21] <londo4> ok
[07:21] <kpenrose> any sudo gurus?
[07:22] <nagyv> londo4: for me it did not worked, but I will tell you my solution if needed
[07:22] <nagyv> kpenrose: sudo IS the guru :)
[07:22] <kpenrose> not for me... :-(
[07:22] <Dr_willis> kpenrose,  you can boot to single user mode and  add the user to the sudoers group i belive
[07:23] <cntb> how to quickly check if samba is installed ? btw is it included in default install?
[07:23] <kpenrose> DR_willis:  I'll try anything - I'm stuck otherwise.  Man page says first user is put in sudoers, but it didn't happen in Edgy.
[07:23] <nagyv> will firefox2.0 be backported to dapper?
[07:23] <londo4> ok
[07:23] <Dr_willis> in  /etc/group  you want the  admin:x:114:willis  (or whatever user you got)
[07:23] <cntb> kpenrose: in ubuntu you sudo all the time to get system to work
[07:24] <nagyv> londo4: this means that the command line answered OK ?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> !fixsudo
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixsudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[07:24] <londo4> no
[07:25] <delight> Dr_willis you can anytime edit your passwd/shadow with an bootet desktop cd and delete the password
[07:25] <londo4> can I put this command line into konsole?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> delight,  of course. :)  i do it all the time.
[07:25] <delight> that way you will be able to acces
[07:25] <delight> oh ..
[07:25] <Dr_willis> live cd's are a MUST have tool in any leet-haxors-tool-box. :)
[07:26] <Dr_willis> New release of PuppyLinux today also it seems.  heh. thats a nice micro-tiny distro/livecd
[07:27] <Dr_willis> I used a live cd to save a guys XP data once.. and earned $20 :)
[07:27] <nagyv> londo4: yes
[07:27] <nagyv> londo4: you have to :)
[07:29] <londo4> angyv---; No such file or directory
[07:29] <webben> Ah does the 2nd development snapshot of KDE require removal of all kdecopy packages?
[07:30] <nagyv> londo4: this was my problem also :) copy the link from the wget command into konqueror's/firefox's address bar
[07:31] <TonySt> All right - I need some MAJOR help with my wireless card.  Ever since updating from Breezy to the next one up, I've not been able to access my network.  I remember I had some problems with it initially, but got over them pretty quickly.  I've searched around and it appears I need some driver for it, but I don't know what driver to get, how to get it, nor how to impliment it.
[07:31] <TonySt> (at least I didn't ask to ask ;-) )
[07:31] <nagyv> londo4: then right-click: show source, copy everything from there to a new file (created by kwrite or kate). save this file as whatever.gpg
[07:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:31] <kdefrysk> kde development snapshots are hardly usable
[07:31] <londo4> now I have this on konsole: 100%[[07:31] <Dr_willis> Dont look at me.. i couldent get wireless working consistantly on a XP box.. so i ran wires...
[07:32] <nagyv> londo4: that is cool
[07:32] <TonySt> Dr_willis, Aah - I wish I could, but something's borked about my wire setup, too - it was when i was running windoze, and it still is.
[07:32] <nagyv> londo4: run this command: wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- > key.gpg
[07:33] <TonySt> Now, I've been using ndiswrapper constantly, but it's simply not recognizing my card.
[07:33] <nagyv> londo4: this will save the file on the web to key.gpg on your local drive
[07:33] <TonySt> Anyone have any dieas?
[07:33] <TonySt> ...er...ideas?
[07:33] <nagyv> londo4: then run sudo apt-key add key.gpg
[07:34] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  dependign on the card ndiswarppers may not be needed any more
[07:34] <TonySt> Dr_willis, hmm... Well, it's not connecting anyway :-(
[07:35] <Dr_willis> yep - is it a driver issue.. or a config issue... is the big question
[07:37] <webben> qtmake-qt4 is in the libqt4-dev-kdecopy package; so when installing kde4 snapshot 2, how are you supposed to have qmake when that package conflicts with kdelibs5 and the other 2nd snapshot packages?
[07:37] <londo4> angyv--; With sudo apt-key add key.gpg, says  pgp: can`t opn key.gpg: No such file or directory
[07:37] <thierry> xorg 7.1 for dapper?
[07:37] <nagyv> londo4: did you run this command: wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- > key.gpg
[07:38] <nagyv> londo4: paste all these commands into the console
[07:39] <TonySt> anything anyone said to me after 13:37 EST, I did not recieve.
[07:39] <Dr_willis> not a lot was said. :P
[07:39] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  dependign on the card ndiswarppers may not be needed any more
[07:39] <Dr_willis> yep - is it a driver issue.. or a config issue... is the big question
[07:39] <TonySt> i got those
[07:39] <TonySt> hmm
[07:40] <heinkel_111> hello
[07:40] <heinkel_111> can someone help me with a little problem please?
[07:40] <heinkel_111> my machine just crashed, and now i lost my dualscreen setup somehow
[07:40] <TonySt> Dr_willis, is there some sort of an app that 'scans', like windows does, for networks in the area?
[07:41] <heinkel_111> i dont understand why, I 've succesfully restored my xorg.conf ?
[07:41] <heinkel_111> but still i get only 1 screen up :(
[07:41] <londo4> nagyv--> 100%[[07:42] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  theres several network scanner tools out. Ive not used any for wireless however.
[07:42] <nagyv> londo4: then run sudo apt-key add key.gpg
[07:42] <TonySt> Dr_willis, Can you point me in the right direction for a download of one of these tools? :-)
[07:43] <nagyv> TonySt: I think that Wireless Manager does it (it is boundled to kubuntu by default)
[07:43] <londo4> angyv--: Ok
[07:43] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  nope.. check the packge manager.
[07:43] <nagyv> londo4: run apt-get update
[07:43] <Dr_willis> and the wiki/forums
[07:43] <Dr_willis> ive just about given up totally on wireless.
[07:43] <TonySt> Dr_willis, I will/have...
[07:43] <TonySt> nagyv, looking now...
[07:43] <TonySt> crap, heh...
[07:44] <TonySt> if forgot
[07:44] <TonySt> it's not that i can't get a network, it's that it's not recognizing my card...
[07:44] <TonySt> sigh
[07:44] <nagyv> londo4: of course don't forget about sudo! you have to run sudo apt-get update
[07:44] <Dr_willis> its possible the old ndiswrapper settings/instll is messing with the new drivers/stuff.
[07:44] <TonySt> Dr_willis, I overwrote every settings file on the computer when I updated it to whatever the newer one is
[07:45] <claudiu> hello, all
[07:45] <TonySt> hello
[07:45] <claudiu> is it normal for "Storage Media" to show "/media" instead of "media:/"   ?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  perhaps....
[07:45] <londo4> angyv---,; now there is only one Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[07:46] <londo4> 404 Not found
[07:46] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  the old ndiswrapper stuff could still be getting loaded. or some other issues..  ive herad/read of others with similer problems in the forums/wikis
[07:46] <nagyv> londo4: please copy the output to pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:48] <Dodger73> hi all
[07:48] <berger> hallo
[07:48] <claudiu> does anyone know why I cannot mount harddrive partitions by using the mouse in "Storage Media" ?
[07:49] <londo4> angyv---  I did it
[07:50] <Dodger73> got a problem with the latest nvidia drivers - the nvidia kernel module doesn't seem to be loaded correctly on boot. kdm hangs itself, so i've got to go to tty1, sudo rmmod nvidia;sudo killall kdm; sudo kdm
[07:50] <nagyv> londo4: then please give me the url you have received
[07:50] <Dodger73> at which point the nvidia kernel module is reloaded, the splash screen comes up, and kdm starts
[07:50] <Dodger73> but i've always got to do that manually
[07:50] <londo4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32781/
[07:51] <claudiu> can anybody mount partitions in "Storage Media" in kubuntu edgy ?
[07:52] <nagyv> londo4: anyway, you should be able to install Skype with apt-get install skype, in the meantime I will check your paste
[07:52] <Dodger73> claudiu: i think storage media is for removable devices only
[07:52] <nagyv> londo4: from where did you get your sources.list file?
[07:53] <claudiu> Dodger73: can you tell me how do YOU mount your partitions in KDE3.5.5 ?
[07:53] <Dodger73> claudiu: try this: in the panel, click on the little arrow by storage media, select configure storage media
[07:53] <Dodger73> you'll get a list box with all different types of media
[07:53] <intelikey> i'm at a loss, what do people get out of breaking other peoples computers ?   or interrupting an irc channel ?     or spamming email servers ?   ???
[07:53] <Dodger73> hard disk volumes are not checked by default in that list
[07:54] <Dodger73> try checking them
[07:54] <Dodger73> my hard drives are mounted via fstab
[07:54] <claudiu> Dodger73: sorry, which panel is that ?
[07:54] <Dodger73> claudiu: to clarify, you're using KDE, right?
[07:55] <claudiu> Dodger73: yep
[07:55] <Dodger73> you have the storage media applet in your panel?
[07:55] <intelikey> it;s kicker
[07:55] <Dodger73> kicker, the panel with the k menu in it?
[07:55] <intelikey> yep
[07:55] <Dodger73> ok
[07:55] <Dodger73> when you mouse over the storage media applet
[07:56] <kevman> I enabled Universe, multiverse and backports. But mplayer and libxine-extracodecs don't seem to exist in any of them. Where are they?
[07:56] <Dodger73> a little triangle should appear
[07:56] <Dodger73> if you click on that triangle, a menu should open
[07:56] <Dodger73> one of the entries should be 'configure storage media'
[07:56] <claudiu> Dodger73: yep, i have that
[07:56] <Dr_willis> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:56] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[07:57] <Dodger73> click on 'configure storage media'
[07:57] <kevman> Is it not in Edgy?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> kevman,  you did update the repos lists?
[07:57] <Dodger73> and scroll through the list
[07:57] <kevman> sudo apt-get update
[07:57] <Dr_willis> It says its in edgy...
[07:57] <kevman> Right? Yeah
[07:57] <kdefrysk> kevman, check spelling of package ;)
[07:57] <londo4> angyv---. this the autput: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32783/
[07:57] <Dodger73> and check 'mounted hard disk volume' and 'unmounted hard disk volume'
[07:57] <kevman> Nope. Its not in multiverse.
[07:57] <Dodger73> then hit OK, and see if they show up :)
[07:57] <claudiu> Dodger73: ok i'm trying that right now
[07:58] <kdefrysk> kevman pastebin your sources.list
[07:58] <Dr_willis> libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[07:58] <Dr_willis> aparently it is. :)
[07:59] <kevman> Wait, where is multiverse? Is it somewhere besides  edgy-backports
[07:59] <kevman> ?
[07:59] <Dodger73> i just tried and kicker hung
[07:59] <intelikey> !repos
[07:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:59] <kdefrysk> add multiverse behine any universe line kevman
[07:59] <kdefrysk> behind*
[07:59] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[07:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:00] <Dr_willis> i cheat and use that. :)
[08:00] <kdefrysk> or that
[08:00] <nagyv> londo4: from where did you get your sources.list file?
[08:00] <kevman> pastebinninb
[08:00] <kevman> source-o-matic doesn't have edgy.
[08:00] <londo4> angyv, this source.list is already in my computer
[08:01] <kdefrysk> londo4, its sources.list
[08:01] <kevman> ok, pastebin is slooow
[08:01] <kdefrysk> if you have a source.list it wont work
[08:01] <kevman> http://pastebin.com/828253
[08:01] <intelikey> i just make sure my /etc/apt/sources.list   has    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu <releasename> main restricted universe multiverse   in it.
[08:02] <kdefrysk> kevman, line 18 and 19 need multiverse added
[08:02] <kevman> ok
[08:02] <intelikey> althought i am moving towards doing away with restricted altogather.
[08:02] <londo4> angyv I just installed kubuntu on my system and I don`t know how to work with sources.list file, I`m newb on linux
[08:02] <klaus77> Dodger73: sorry to bother , do you know why harddrive partitions do not show in storagemedia applet ?
[08:02] <nagyv> londo4: sorry, I have no idea what could be your problem, for me it installed with these repositories without any problems
[08:02] <kdefrysk> kevman and also 33 and 34 need multiverse added
[08:03] <klaus77> Dodger73: they show up when mounted
[08:03] <kevman> okok
[08:03] <londo4> angyv, ---; Ok, do you know what?
[08:03] <kdefrysk> kevman, then save and update and try again
[08:03] <nagyv> londo4: try the following: go to skype's site
[08:03] <kevman> Praise God!
[08:03] <kevman> mplayer, finally
[08:03] <kdefrysk> kevman, praise me !!
[08:04] <kdefrysk> ;p
[08:04] <londo4> you are very good teacher man
[08:04] <kevman> Now I have journey to the centre of the earth going through my head
[08:04] <kevman> happiness would be kubuntu + portage.
[08:05] <TonySt> Dr_willis, I think I've found my driver - hidden deep in the /etc/ folder from my previous install.  Looks like I just execute a .sys - How would I go about doing this?
[08:05] <nagyv> and download the linux install file from here http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[08:05] <kdefrysk> kevman, learn to work with apt-get source
[08:05] <klaus77> Dodger73: i just changed my nick, you talked to me 2 minutes ago
[08:05] <kdefrysk> and you can compile your heart out
[08:05] <Dodger73> ah
[08:05] <nagyv> londo4: the one for the debian packages
[08:05] <Dodger73> klaus77: so, unmounted ones don't show up?
[08:05] <londo4> ok
[08:06] <klaus77> Dodger73: yes, thats right.
[08:06] <kevman> Yeah. I just like portage better. But not that I want to start a flamewar, trying to get Gentoo to work everything in my laptop is why I'm trying kubuntu
[08:06] <kevman> Which is doing just fine. My friggin
[08:06] <kevman> volume buttons work
[08:06] <Dodger73> i'm not sure... my thinking is the only way it can *know* that a harddisk partition is present but unmounted is by checking fstab
[08:06] <kdefrysk> gentoo is a timewaster and a pita to install
[08:06] <klaus77> Dodger73: i configured the applet to show everything. it shows my root, boot and home
[08:07] <trappist> kdefrysk: no distro bashing please
[08:07] <Dodger73> but i'm a relative newbie myself, so don't quote me on that ;)
[08:07] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  yovue missed the point that i dont use wireless any more... :)
[08:07] <klaus77> Dodger73: but not the partitions on the other harddrive
[08:07] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  check the wiki/forums -
[08:07] <trappist> Dodger73: you could check /proc/partitions
[08:08] <TonySt> Dr_willis, i'm not asking how to work a wireless card, just how to execute a .sys file :-P
[08:08] <kevman> Gentoo has been an amazing OS for my desktop. But I'd have to write ACPI scripts, hand-map the volume keys, blah blah, to get it just right on my laptop
[08:08] <londo4> angyv--- I can open or save no problem?
[08:08] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  thats easy,, you DONT...
[08:08] <TonySt> Dr_willis, and I have checked the forums, and i'm coming to the same point you did :-/
[08:08] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  sounds like some windows related binary file that may need to get loaded by ndiswrappers or somthing.
[08:08] <nagyv> londo4: save it to the Desktop
[08:08] <Dodger73> trappist: nice, i didn't know that
[08:08] <kevman> And kubuntu still has xmms. Gentoo is dropping it.
[08:09] <easytiger> xmms sucks
[08:09] <kdefrysk> no
[08:09] <klaus77> Dodger73: i think this is a bug in kde3.5.5, thanks man
[08:10] <kdefrysk> xmms is the mother of linux mp3 players
[08:10] <intelikey> i thought .sys files were media  :)
[08:10] <Dr_willis> great-great-grandmother
[08:10] <hyper_ch> in the start menu, how can I see what command each entry triggers?
[08:10] <kdefrysk> yes
[08:10] <Dr_willis> hyper_ch,  i add them to the panel, then check their properties
[08:10] <easytiger> pah. amarok is the one true music player
[08:10] <hyper_ch> sorry, wrong channel :)
[08:10] <kevman> Hum... amarok doesn't support many formats. No psf.
[08:10] <hyper_ch> Dr_willis: need it for xfce :)
[08:10] <trappist> hyper_ch: right-click, put into run dialog
[08:10] <klaus77> does anyone know how to regenerate your fstab ?
[08:10] <kdefrysk> mount -a
[08:10] <easytiger> kevman: supports whatever xine supports.
[08:11] <kdefrysk> sudo mount -a
[08:11] <Dr_willis> xfce annoyed me in that i couldent just drag icons from the menu to the panels.
[08:11] <kevman> Exactly.
[08:11] <trappist> kdefrysk: that doesn't generae anything
[08:11] <londo4> angyv is Ok
[08:11] <easytiger> and whats teh issue with that?
[08:11] <londo4> is alread in my desktop
[08:11] <kdefrysk> or did he not mean restart ?
[08:11] <nagyv> londo4: then run in the konsole sudo apt-get install ~/Desktop/the_filename_of_the_downloaded_skype.deb
[08:12] <easytiger> why the hell would anyone want to play psf anyway
[08:13] <intelikey> "<klaus77> does anyone know how to regenerate your fstab ?"   i'd do something like   mount > newfstab ;cat /proc/partitions >> newfstab && "your,favorite,editor" newfstab    when finsed editing id save it as fstab
[08:13] <easytiger> well thats just kinda sad
[08:14] <kevman> apt doesn't have a lot of software I use, too
[08:15] <kdefrysk> kevman, like ?
[08:15] <unkn0wn> hi
[08:15] <klaus77> intelikey: thanks , i'll examine that
[08:15] <kevman> Whoops, found that.
[08:15] <unkn0wn> i have a problem with wine installation....
[08:15] <kevman> But its missing Audacious
[08:15] <Dr_willis> You mean the Kubuntu/ubuntu repositories :)
[08:15] <unkn0wn> anyone can help me ?
[08:15] <kevman> Yeah
[08:15] <intelikey> klaus77 man fstab
[08:15] <Dr_willis> unkn0wn,  and the problem, is?
[08:15] <unkn0wn> i install using shell
[08:15] <unkn0wn> apply apt's
[08:15] <unkn0wn> and run
[08:15] <trappist> !enter
[08:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:15] <intelikey> klaus77 some file system need and/or accept special options.
[08:15] <unkn0wn> apt-get wine
[08:16] <unkn0wn> w8 w8
[08:16] <unkn0wn> sry
[08:16] <unkn0wn> apt-get update
[08:16] <Kyral> Audacious
[08:16] <unkn0wn> it works fine
[08:16] <trappist> unkn0wn: you're allowed to put *several* words on a line
[08:16] <Dr_willis> its... 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[08:16] <Kyral> you mean the fork from Beep Media Player?
[08:16] <kevman> Yeah
[08:16] <klaus77> intelikey: I know how to edit fstab. Nevertheless I think that kubuntu has more advanced ways to do things like making partitions and removable drives available to users
[08:16] <Kyral> Might still be called Beep Media Player
[08:17] <kdefrysk> audacious : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202430
[08:17] <Kyral> but I use Arch nowadays :D
[08:17] <Kyral> (And AmaroK :P)
[08:17] <unkn0wn> the error is : E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[08:17] <londo4> angyv---; autput: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32788/
[08:17] <kdefrysk> !info wine
[08:17] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[08:17] <klaus77> intelikey: I have upgraded from breezy to dapper to edgy and I suspect I miss some default new and cool settings
[08:17] <kevman> I like xmms. Xmms ownz, until it crashes
[08:18] <Kyral> trappist: Just grab the code that does it in almost EVERY Installer :P
[08:18] <Dr_willis> I was unable to get xmms2 working last night.
[08:18] <kdefrysk> amarok and/or beep-media-player
[08:18] <Kyral> mpg321 :P
[08:18] <trappist> Kyral: I mean one that just adds stuff that's missing from an existing fstab
[08:18] <kdefrysk> Kyral, cli-noise
[08:18] <unkn0wn> anyone...
[08:18] <unkn0wn> i cant install it...
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> moc (executable is mocp) is a fine mp3 player
[08:18] <Bubba_Gump> amarok seems to be the best i've tried so far :)
[08:18] <unkn0wn> always the same E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[08:18] <intelikey> klaus77 blkid's
[08:18] <Dr_willis> !info wine
[08:18] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[08:19] <trappist> unkn0wn: you have to enable the universe repository
[08:19] <intelikey> edgy is defaulting to using blkid rather than device addressing.
[08:19] <Dr_willis> unkn0wn,  you may need to set up the repositories to include universe.
[08:19] <unkn0wn> and how do i do that...
[08:19] <Bubba_Gump> what's the most comprehensive lyric script for amaroK?
[08:19] <kdefrysk> !repos
[08:19] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:19] <trappist> !universe | unkn0wn
[08:19] <ubotu> unkn0wn: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:19] <unkn0wn> tnx...
[08:19] <unkn0wn> i hope i will find my way there :D
[08:19] <klaus77> intelikey: I configured my fstab to have uuids instead of dev, but mounting by using the GDI is a pain
[08:20] <intelikey> klaus77 get someone with a clean install of edgy to pastebin their fstab  so you can get the feel for it.
[08:20] <kevman> Peace out
[08:20] <intelikey> klaus77 k
[08:20] <Bubba_Gump> GDI..? i always preferred the Brotherhood of NOD
[08:20] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[08:21] <mefisto_> I'm trying to get TV out to work on my ATI video card. I normally use the default ati driver, but it displays garbage on my TV. I tried installing the fglrx driver with synaptic and the TV out is working fine, but my primary monitor's colours are all out, way too bright and washed out, and I can't adjust colours to get to anything close to the previous driver's look. Any suggestions?
[08:21] <klaus77> Bubba_Gump: GDI is better :)
[08:22] <kdefrysk> klaus77, my fstab (from a clean install) http://pastebin.com/828266
[08:22] <Bubba_Gump> heh :)
[08:22] <intelikey> !ati
[08:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:24] <klaus77> kdefrysk: thanks a lot!!
[08:24] <intelikey> mefisto_ there is a gama setting in kde
[08:24] <intelikey> !gamma
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <intelikey> !gama
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gama - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <mefisto_> intelikey: yes I've tried that, but turning it down as dark as possible is still way too bright
[08:25] <intelikey> no infonode on it but i have seen posts about it.
[08:26] <intelikey> yeah this monitor runs at bright = 0 contrast = 50 most of the time....
[08:29] <londo4> I can`t get sound on my kubuntu 6.06, any one knows what to do?
[08:29] <intelikey> !sound
[08:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:31] <intelikey> is a /boot/map file important to lilo ?
[08:31] <intelikey> i know it makes a new one when you run it... but couldn't i just rm them  or will that affect the boot process ?
[08:32] <|nightrid3r|> intelikey: if you rm the map it will fux0r your boot
[08:32] <intelikey> like this ?  tty24 [root@~]  rm -R /boot
[08:32] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]
[08:32] <intelikey> ?
[08:33] <intelikey> lets see if it boots properly or not.   brb.
[08:33] <|nightrid3r|> intelikey: guess where your kernel goes
[08:33] <intelikey> |nightrid3r| not in /boot  :)
[08:36] <josh_> how do i log into the gui as root?
[08:36] <intelikey> and the answer is "it boots fine without a map file."
[08:36] <Dr_willis> josh_,  better question - why do you need to.
[08:36] <josh_> thats the one thing i haven't managed to figure out yet... :(
[08:36] <Dr_willis> josh_,  direct logging in as root with kdm is disabled.
[08:36] <Dr_willis> of coruse direct logging in as root is disabled also.
[08:36] <josh_> yeah... i want to know where to enable it at