[13:49] <allen> is it x org not installed?
[13:49] <sebsebseb> !xorg
[13:49] <allen> 8.10 ubuntu
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> micca, why not just register a channel on an established server?
[13:49] <Soyo> I have had no desktop since the last ubuntu update
[13:49] <Huufarted> xorg is installed if you're seeing the mouse
[13:50] <hbekel> mafsi: check if echo -e '\07' makes it beep
[13:50] <allen> graphics card is onboard
[13:50] <sebsebseb> Soyo: no desktop????
[13:50] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> per this http://drbl.sourceforge.net/  step 5   it says do not use network manager (gui icons)
[13:50] <sebsebseb> allen: ok is the computer old?
[13:50] <mshanks> micca, depending on where you're planning on hosting the server, I'd strongly suggest checking that IRCd's are allowed - they are banned in most places
[13:50] <AnjinRo> !raidokey, my problem is about RAID, i have a RAID 0 on this computer... first time grub dont start so i installed ubuntu again with RAID stopped, and it work. But it doesnt recognize mine RAID partition.  I wanted to run the server as then I can provide several services as opposed to just owning a channel
[13:50] <Leon_Nardella> Anybody else having freezes with ext4 on Jaunty under heavy IO ( 'make clean', 'rm -rf' on 1GB source trees ) ?
[13:50] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> ie do not rely on network manager when using dbrl,
[13:51] <Soyo> I can do like "firefox --display :0" and it works fine, but the desktop is absolutely black. no menu either
[13:51] <micca> that was to IndyGunFreak
[13:51] <sebsebseb> sipior: if he  even understands what that means, I got a feeling he is new
[13:51] <n8tuser> Leon_Nardella -> please go to #ubuntu+1
[13:51] <allen> i can acsess terminal
[13:51] <sipior> sebsebseb: well, we must start somewhere.
[13:51] <Huufarted> micca: I'd still recommend using a channel on an existing network.  FAR easier to maintain.
[13:51] <sebsebseb> sipior: yep
[13:51] <micca> mshanks well... I wanted to run the server as then I can provide several services as opposed to just owning a channel
[13:51] <allen> i reinstalled but no luck
[13:51] <mshanks> micca, if it's for your work network, then if you put a server in the building, which you own, then it's fine (Cause it's up to you, and it's private)
[13:52] <allen> both of these computers are from the same time frame
[13:52] <sipior> allen: a complete reinstall? including a new user home directory?
[13:52] <xuser_> hello to everybody
[13:52] <mshanks> but if you want it publically available, you'll need to find an appropriate host. they are around, but a lot of typical server hosting companies don't allow them. just check T&C
[13:52] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: I know bud, thats what i am saying.....i used gedit /etc/network/interfaces to manually set it but now when i reboot and i look at eth0 again it says unmanaged and all this has been happening since i updated this mroning
[13:52] <sebsebseb> xuser_: hi
[13:52] <AnjinRo> !raid
[13:52] <allen> i reinstalled 2-3times
[13:52] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> did you remove or purge network manager per that instruction on step 5 ?
[13:52] <Soyo> So I just changed smb.conf to fix some permission issues, but when I goto /etc/init.d/ and type [samba restart] or even just [samba] it says command not found, but yet if I type ls samba is listed... confused. Samba is working on the network so it must installed, but I do not want to do  complete reboot because I have 13 tabs open in firefox (Also I have no GUI so this must be done from command line)
[13:52] <micca> mshanks hmm.. its different.. will later on set it up (or would want to at least) for a committee im part of at an university.. but wanted to set it up for now on my box basically to practice it all first before porting it over to the uni server
[13:52] <sebsebseb> allen: what your is the computer from?
[13:52] <sebsebseb> allen: what year?
[13:52] <Jimi_Neutral> i wasnt follwoing that tut so no cause the one i was following didnt tell me o do that
[13:52] <mat1211> Hi, does anyone here know how I would modify users so they can upload to a dir other than home?
[13:53] <allen> 2003 i think
[13:53] <micca> is that illegal or legal? (the internet ip im on for now.. is a private home ip)
[13:53] <sebsebseb> allen: ok that's oldish
[13:53] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well do remove or purge it,
[13:53] <xuser_> have you ever tried to use aircrack ng on ubuntu?
[13:53] <allen> its a 2.53pentuim4
[13:53] <mshanks> micca, nothing stopping you doing it in your own house (again, i'd suggest doing it on a machine not accessible from the internet just incase - it might void your T&C for home connection) - but nothing stopping you trying it out
[13:53] <sebsebseb> sipior: maybe his card isn't supourted by 8.10?
[13:53] <n8tuser> micca -> not its not illegal
[13:53] <allen> socket 478
[13:53] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: will i lose this connection to WAN?
[13:53] <sipior> allen: that doesn't answer the question. did you delete your home directory during the install?
[13:53] <micca> mat , you could add a group id for all users.. and then give access to that group to the folde ryou have in midn i would think
[13:54] <allen> i see the login screen just fine
[13:54] <mshanks> if it's for your uni, they might even be prepared to offer some help, or at least a machine dedicated for you to use - I know a few that do. Worth having a chat with them :)
[13:54] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you should not but if you do, you can always bring up eth2
[13:54] <Soyo> allen: me too! but then it goes black after that
[13:54] <Azoff> hello
[13:54] <sebsebseb> Azoff: hi
[13:54] <allen> my desktop did go black but now its just brown with a cursor
[13:54] <Azoff> I am about to setup ubuntu server with kvm
[13:54] <n8tuser> !who | Jimi_Neutral
[13:54] <sebsebseb> Soyo: which version of Ubuntu?  how old is the computer/graphics card?
[13:55] <micca> ok , just sounded like someone saying not allowed... so the thign is I want to runt he irc server.. AND use it across the internet for specific members only (sure I coudl reg a channel by all means.. but I am later on going to develop our infrastructure on the aforementioned uni server.. so want ot tinker around on my hgome box first)...
[13:55] <Kimi> Hi
[13:55] <Azoff> but how do I make the guest appear on the same network as the host without NAT?
[13:55] <nickname> how can i install updates offline? (I have around 437 files - i got the .deb files from a pc that has internet, how can i install them?)
[13:55] <sebsebseb> !offline
[13:55] <allen> everything is good except i cannot see the two taskbars
[13:56] <Azoff> I want to be able to access the guests without the need of some forwarod or something like that.
[13:56] <sebsebseb> nickname: see above
[13:56] <Kimi> i changed sscreen resolutions... and now tried all the resolutions that are shown in that box..... but still cant get a good resolution... i mean all the windows doesnt fit to the screen when i click maximize..... and also. the icons in the screen are large and  they are gone even down the task bar... help me plz
[13:56] <micca> ok , just sounded like someone saying not allowed... so the thign is I want to runt he irc server.. AND use it across the internet for specific members only (sure I coudl reg a channel by all means.. but I am later on going to develop our infrastructure on the aforementioned uni server.. so want ot tinker around on my hgome box first)...  mshanks n8tuser  any feedback on this?
[13:56] <mat1211> Sorry, how would I add the folder to the group access? would this be possible in terminal lol
[13:56] <mshanks> micca, i'd suggest; set it up on ahome machine (not on internet) to begin with
[13:57] <nickname> nevermind, i found it: I tried: dpkg -i -R /var/cache/apt/archives as root!
[13:57] <Soyo> sebsebseb Ubuntu Server 8.10 the graphics card is ancient
[13:57] <Magishen> uhm when i try and mount a volume it says "cannot mount volume, you are not privileged to mount this volume" How do i get around this sudo it or something?
[13:57] <mshanks> it's not the smallest job  -will take you a bit of time to understand whats going on
[13:57] <Azoff> I have setup a bridge as the "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking#Creating a network bridge on the host" states, but I my guests still appear on the 192.168.122.* C-network
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Soyo: ok that's your problem I expect
[13:57] <micca> kimi: that sounds like a typical thing with unbranded laptops .. are you on a laptop kimi.. if so which one?
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Soyo: 8.10 has a completly differnet version of xorg  from 8.04, and it lacks suppourt for older cards
[13:57] <mshanks> then I'd look at finding a small cheap host that allows an IRCd for a *very* small network (make sure to stress the smallness... perhaps impose a connection limit). go from there
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Soyo: also for servers 8.04 is recommended anyway
[13:57] <micca> mshanks.. ye.. well I guess I like to learn.. but I =only got one box atm.. (one laptop)
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Soyo: since it's long term suppourt unlike 8.10
[13:57] <micca> can i not make the server private?
[13:57] <mshanks> you could also ask your ISP if you'd be allowed to do it from your house (but bear in mind, the bandwidth implications etc)
[13:58] <Kimi> micca NO
[13:58] <Azoff> btw, the host is running 8.04 server
[13:58] <allen> the cursor is visable the background is visable the logon screen is visable the terminal is visable
[13:58] <micca> kimi: ok
[13:58] <Kimi> micca mine is a viewsonic LCD monitor
[13:58] <Magishen> uhm when i try and mount a volume it says "cannot mount volume, you are not privileged to mount this volume" How do i get around this sudo it or something
[13:58] <sipior> allen: you haven't answered my question regarding your .gnome2 directory. if you don't understand it, that's fine, and i'm happy to elaborate. but an acknowledgment would be nice.
[13:58] <Soyo> The graphics card not compatable with the new update, because it worked fine before the last update.
[13:58] <Kimi> micca and i am not getting the right resoltion shown in that preferences box
[13:58] <sebsebseb> Soyo: update as in 8.04 to 8.10???/
[13:58] <allen> sipior im sorry i dont get it
[13:58] <micca> mshanks, well.. if I would password protect it.. the server owuld only allow about 20 people now when in testing at home.... is that not ok? you think?
[13:59] <allen> not trying to be rude my apologies
[13:59] <mat1211> Who ever had problem with mounting, yeah sudo usually works.
[13:59] <Magishen> whats the sudo command?
[13:59] <sebsebseb> !sudo
[13:59] <sipior> allen: you have a terminal open? if you type "ls -al" in it, you'll get a list of directories. one of those should be called ".gnome2" (note the dot)
[13:59] <Kimi> !sudo > Magishen
[13:59] <micca> Kimi... well.. it sounds like you need to get your refresh rates etc correct and edit the xconf file (erm i havent done x in erm 8 yrs or so) ask someone for a link to the bot for xconf or Xwindows or osmething
[13:59] <mshanks> I honestly don't know - it depends on your ISP - I'd suggest asking them first
[13:59] <Kimi> micca ?!
[13:59] <mshanks> micca, and remember if those 20 people use it regularly, it might have noticable impact on your bandwidth usage
[13:59] <Magishen> what i just type sudo in yerminal and its unmounted
[14:00] <Soyo> 8.10 was working ok, but then I downloaded the latest update (a couple months ago) and it stop loading the gnome desktop (logs in ok but black screen)
[14:00] <mat1211> In terminal what would I type to add a folder to group access?
[14:00] <sipior> allen: if you try moving that directory; say, via "mv .gnome2 .gnome2.backup", and then log out, and back in, does your problem go away?
[14:00] <sebsebseb> Soyo: any idea what you installed?
[14:00] <micca> ok.. but mshanks... well... since i will be setting up a test env.  I just don thave time to set it up and learn it all when it goes onto the uni server
[14:00] <Kimi> micca ?? means you dont know to help me now ?
[14:00] <micca> i need a test environment which also lets
[14:00] <sebsebseb> Soyo: is the computer only used as a server? or do you use it for desktop usage as well?
[14:00] <Kimi> does anyone use how to solve my problem ??!
[14:00] <allen> how do i open a terminal?
[14:00] <Magishen> o ffs! dw about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:01] <micca> kimi: I didnt do X for 7 yrs.. im just saying I used to solve those problems years and years ago.. my suggestion is that you need to look into Xconf
[14:01] <Kimi> allen appplica > access > terminal
[14:01] <sebsebseb> allen:  applications > assesories > terminal
[14:01] <sipior> allen: sorry, i thought you said you had one open. you can get it from the main menu.
[14:01] <Soyo> its mostly a server
[14:01] <allen> i cant see my aplications
[14:01] <sebsebseb> Soyo: ok  you should run 8.04 on it then
[14:01] <micca> and find the correct values to enter for vendor, refresh rates vertcially and horizontally for yoru montior
[14:01] <sebsebseb> Soyo: that' recommended for servers, plus your card should work fine there
[14:01] <Kimi> micca i don know what is Xconf :( i am only 1 month old to ubuntu
[14:01] <micca> althoor something along those lines
[14:01] <Magishen> HOW DO I MOUNT LOL ITS NOT LETTIN ME??????????????????????
[14:01] <Kimi> !Xconf
[14:01] <incorrect> I want to configure X from the command line,  what is the best method?
[14:02] <allen> what keys do i press to open a terminal?
[14:02] <micca> well i installe dubuntu yesterday! :P kimi: google xconf or ask the bot.. ah kimi: its something along the lines incorrect  just is asking
[14:02] <Magishen> dw with ur command line crap
[14:02] <micca> i can theklpo yuo more.. sorry
[14:02] <Magishen> help me with my mountin prob
[14:02] <Soyo> I guess that means I have to do some backing up then
[14:02] <Kimi> micca :P you installed yesteraday ? :P
[14:02] <sebsebseb> Soyo: and if you use the server edition you get  5 years of suppourt with  8.04,  desktop version only 3 years
[14:02] <sipior> allen: i think there is a hotkey combination to open a terminal, but i'm damned if i remember what it is...anybody?
[14:02] <Nasra> !kernel
[14:02] <Nasra> hello all
[14:02] <Kimi> !confX > Kimi
[14:02] <allen> lol sipior
[14:02] <Nasra> hello sebsebseb
[14:02] <Magishen> OI WHAT DA FUK U HELPO KIMI CUZ SHE IS A GAL HELP ME
[14:02] <sebsebseb> Soyo: well now it's like 4 years of supourt left for server
[14:02] <Huufarted> sipior: Alt-F2
[14:03] <sebsebseb> Nasra: hi
[14:03] <Nasra> you okay?
[14:03] <Nasra> good
[14:03] <sipior> Huufarted: cheers
[14:03] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yeah, but not meant to do general chat in here
[14:03] <Nasra> just reading some stuffs here
[14:03] <Nasra> networking
[14:03] <Nasra> just learning some stuffs
[14:03] <Magishen> oi ok how do i mount a label
[14:03] <Huufarted> sipior: NP
[14:03] <sipior> allen: try "Alt-F2", see if that doesn't start a terminal for you.
[14:03] <micca> mshanks, ok but lets say ISP is ifne with it (tbh..  I do not intend to let the bandwidtch get out of hand... when im testing I will only keep 3 people on it miost likely anyway.. my secretaries and the lad im gonna help run some web stuff).. do you really think bandwidth can get that out of hand? :/
[14:03] <Magishen> it says im not allowed
[14:03] <Magishen> thx guys!!!!
[14:03] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yeah, but your also off topic if you say that stuff in here
[14:03] <Kimi> Magishen, I am a GUY
[14:03] <micca> MAgishen use sudo in front
[14:03] <Nasra> sebsebseb: tha is okay...no problem...
[14:03] <Huufarted> sipior, gotta be careful telling that to noobies.  It switches their entire screen to a console.  They may not know how to get back to X
[14:04] <Soyo> sebsebseb sounds like a good idea, I just have to back everything up now (which I should be doing already but I just started with linux)
[14:04] <sebsebseb> Nasra: pm or im if you want to chat
[14:04] <Nasra> okay
[14:04] <Magishen> wtf i dont use sudo infornt of anything!!!!!!!!!! i only isntalled ubuntu so i dont get hacked from conflictor that aprils fools virus
[14:04] <allen> alt f2 didnt work rebooted the system
[14:04] <mshanks> micca, no, not in that instance - but isp might have a problem if they can detect you hosting an IRCd..
[14:04] <sebsebseb> Soyo: what kind of server?
[14:04] <mshanks> but, similarly, it's just as likely it will be absolutely fine :)
[14:04] <sipior> Huufarted: that's "ctrl-alt-F2" you mean. he'll need a proper gnome-terminal
[14:04] <micca> hehe Huufarted , when i installeed ubuntu yest.. i hit alt f5 instead of alt 5 , n changed display... thank god i rememebred from 5 yrs ago that it shud be somewhere
[14:04] <Magishen> ok when i goto places n goto my thing i wnat to mount
[14:04] <micca> so i did f1 and it says display loading but nothing ever happened
[14:04] <sebsebseb> Magishen: lol and
[14:04] <Magishen> it says im not allowed
[14:04] <sebsebseb> !language
[14:04] <mshanks> Like I said, i honestly don't know - personally I'd give them a quick call and ask, but it's up to you
[14:04] <sipior> allen: try "alt-F7" to get back :-)
[14:04] <Kimi> micca can you plz help me A LITTLE ? ;'(
[14:04] <Soyo> Samba, I have CNC machines that run on DOS which need to log into it
[14:04] <micca> but found it on f7 :D
[14:05] <micca> kimi: look
[14:05] <Huufarted> sipior: sorry you're right.  ctrl-alt-F2.  Too darned early for me.  :(
[14:05] <sebsebseb> Magishen: see above regarding language
[14:05] <Guest4194> OLá
[14:05] <micca> I said about what I know.. google Xwindows
[14:05] <Guest4194> algum brasileiro na sala
[14:05] <Kimi> micca ? ! i am getting right
[14:05] <Kimi> *not getting right
[14:05] <micca> and look for configuring an LCD screen
[14:05] <Magishen> no i dont care about langauge i know c++ i cna own anything how do I mount somethin when its not lettin me
[14:05] <Huufarted> !po
[14:05] <penguincentral> i have a midi file that i want to convert to sheet music.  how do i do that on ubuntu?
[14:05] <micca> you need to find from your vendor the actual refresh rates or something
[14:05] <Magishen> gosh help
[14:05] <Magishen> me
[14:05] <Huufarted> !pr
[14:05] <micca> and edit your conf file
[14:05] <Magishen> EVERYONE STOP TYPIN FOR M1 MIN! GOSH
[14:05] <Magishen> HELP ME
[14:05] <Huufarted> guest4194: portugues?
[14:05] <Guest4194> yes
[14:05] <sebsebseb> Magishen: and it seems a lot of people that go to another OS to get away from Windows viruses, have done so for the wrong reasons.
[14:05] <Guest4194> i'm braziliam
[14:05] <Huufarted> Anybody know the abbreviation for portuguese?
[14:05] <Kimi> micca but it is working yesterday and not today
[14:06] <sipior> allen: actually, if you try "ctrl-alt-F1", do you get a login prompt?
[14:06] <sebsebseb> !rules |  Magishen
[14:06] <Magishen> SEBSEBSEB U R RMY FRIEND HELP ME OK
[14:06] <Nasra> Mgishen: just ask the question....don't shout !
[14:06] <Huufarted> guest4194, this is the English speaking channel,  There is a channel dedicated to Portuguese support, however!
[14:06] <DJones> !pt | Huufarted
[14:06] <Jostein> yo
[14:06] <Guest4194> ok. thanks
[14:06] <micca> ok mshanks.. sorry for repeating the questions.. but it was helpful... in case I do get an ISP warning.. the thing is IM renting here.. so lol.. my owner would get the notice.. and he wopuuld prolly go w00t.. then id go w00t and say ok ill switch it off.. then ISP prolly will say ok no problem
[14:06] <Magishen> oi sebsebseb
[14:06] <Magishen> where r u
[14:06] <Huufarted> Sweet, thanks DJones.  :)  Go there, Guest4194
[14:06] <Magishen> come n talk 2 me
[14:06] <Magishen> ok
[14:06] <Jostein> ?
[14:06] <FloodBot2> Magishen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <sebsebseb> Magishen: this is a busy channel :)  you must respect that or pm people
[14:06] <Magishen> enter is my punctuation
[14:06] <Magishen> noob
[14:06] <micca> i have no intention of running any full on hardcore server services
[14:07] <Huufarted> !noob | magishen
[14:07] <mshanks> micca, that's very likely - especially if you're keeping the activity that small, if they do have a problem, holding your hands up and saying sorry and turning it off would most likely be fine
[14:07] <allen> slackware pmajic ophcrack all work in the live-cd forms
[14:07] <Magishen> whats jfgi!! rtfm
[14:07] <Magishen> whats that mean
[14:07] <grawity> Magishen: Shut up.  There's quite a bit to get through. But good luck with it :)
[14:07] <micca> ok mshanks.. thanks though for pointing it out ot me :) now.. to the initial question.. (even if its a steep learning curve) anyone got a suggestion for a irc daemon to use on ubuntu or how o getit?
[14:07] <nyaa> Magishen I sent you a message =
[14:08] <sebsebseb> Magishen: I may help you in pm, but  in here hummmm
[14:08] <micca> lol ok you beat it to me mshanks.. if there is no apt-get solution.. ill go off and google it then xx
[14:08] <sipior> Magishen: you can ask one of the ops for your money back, if you like.
[14:08] <Nasra> Magishen: are  you fine today?
[14:08] <Huufarted> !ops | magishen
[14:08] <eterna1> Magishen Maybe if you showed some respect people will take the time and listen
[14:08] <Soyo> Magishen: <-- if you type someones name with a colon it will show up in color
[14:08] <datruth> I really need help with bridging my openvpn with my wireless can anyone help me with this?
[14:08] <Magishen> magishen: blue
[14:08] <jpds> Magishen: Please stay civil.
[14:08] <Magishen> SOYO IS A LIAR
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:08] <Magishen> MY NAME DIDNT VBECOME BLUE
[14:08] <Soyo> lol
[14:08] <jpds> !caps | Magishen
[14:08] <sebsebseb> Magishen: be careful or you get booted
[14:08] <ikonia> Magishen: what's up
[14:08] <Nasra> Magishen have a coffe or something so  you  ralax alittle bit
[14:09] <dmsuperman> I get occasional (seemingly random) massive spikes in that appear to max out a core: http://imagebin.ca/view/i764AP.html
[14:09] <dmsuperman> The blue graph is CPU. During this time, the cursor moves around, but that is the only thing that happens. Audio freezes, typing and clicking have no effect, etc.
[14:09]  * grawity gives a box of thanks to Myrtti
[14:09] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: I think that ban was a bit quick, he wanted help, just didn't know about the channel rules
[14:09] <Myrtti> sebsebseb: he's not banned
[14:09] <Myrtti> Magishen: calm down, dear
[14:09] <Huufarted> dmsuperman: use 'top' or my favorite 'htop' to see what the offending process(es) are.
[14:09] <eterna1> is tomcat avail in the standard application list for updating?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> !find tomcat
[14:10] <edthefox> jpds: Is this irc101?
[14:10] <micca> oh and a small question since im getting used to ubuntu... if I see a package but havent installed it .. and want to get some info of it (in a terminal) eg.  oftc-hybrid.. is there a way to access its info? or do i have to google it?
[14:10] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: That's the problem, the window doesn't redraw during this time and by the time it returns to normal the process is no longer up there
[14:10] <jpds> micca: apt-cache show oftc-hybrid
[14:10] <eterna1> lol thanx
[14:10] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: Unless it's X, which typically sits at the top of the list
[14:10] <Myrtti> Magishen: hopefully you're a bit more composed now?
[14:11] <Michaelwoo2009> hi, every, i have a problem about gtk problems, all the app base on gtk show rigging angle on button and textbox, and so on. And it is arc angle before.
[14:11] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, run it in a terminal window
[14:11] <mshanks> micca, i suspect there isn't an ircd in apt (might be wrong but i'd be suprised) - you're going to need to compile and sset up your self probably
[14:11] <prince_jammys> micca: apt-cache show package_name. you never have to google to browse packages, unless you're reading reviews, screenshots, etc.
[14:11] <AnjinRo> wine is working fine? i mean... to open windows based applications...
[14:11] <jpds> micca: Or open the Synaptic Package Manager in System -> Admin and read the info there.
[14:11] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, you can run it from an ssh session as well
[14:11] <jpds> mshanks: There are.
[14:11] <datruth> oh 72hrs still no results
[14:11] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: That doesn't help, since it's X that locks up
[14:11] <Jarie> so I heard that Ubuntu is the most problematic Linux distro.. and that you should use Mandriva or openSUSE if you want a very tinker / random weird issues experience
[14:11] <Nasra> Magishen is probably gone by now....
[14:11] <Jarie> thats what our university teacher is teaching to us
[14:11] <Huufarted> dmsuperman: run it from an ssh session ran from a different PC
[14:11] <Jarie> I mean t
[14:11] <Magishen> nah im gettin help
[14:11] <Magishen> im still here
[14:11] <sebsebseb> Nasra: nah he is here
[14:12] <Jarie>  and that you should use Mandriva or openSUSE if you want a very tinker-free / random weird issues Free experience
[14:12] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: I don't have a different PC to use, sadly :(
[14:12] <Nasra> oh
[14:12] <sebsebseb> Magishen: who is helping you? reply to my pm
[14:12] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, not even a windows PC?
[14:12] <Soyo> Anyone know how to restart samba when /etc/init.d/ shows samba in it but typing [samba restart] or [samba] says command not found...
[14:12] <dmsuperman> Is there maybe like a CPU hogs history app?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: ubuntu is convenient but isnt really for tinkerers to the degree that other distros allow
[14:12] <mshanks> Jarie; it's all a matter of taste and preference.
[14:12] <allen> i am attempting to boot from the live cd in safe graphics mode
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: i wouldnt say it was problematic any thing
[14:12] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: I have no other PCs here :(
[14:13] <Jarie> ive been hearing that Ubuntu users have to post way more forum posts about problems than like Mandriva
[14:13] <Jarie> that theres just tons of issues
[14:13] <micca> cheers prince_jammys jpds and mshanks .. well mshanks , when i typed ircd in terminal , apt suggested oftc-hybrid + ircd-irc2
[14:13] <Nasra> sebsebseb : can I run another flavour of linux on top of Ubuntu as live cd mode?
[14:13] <orifice_work> how can I Install from the command line off a live cd ?
[14:13] <allen> when i installed ubuntu all the menus showed up with no problem
[14:13] <micca> so I guess ircd-irc2 is a daemon
[14:13] <orifice_work> is there a text mode installer?
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Nasra: nah, but you can virtual machine one
[14:13] <tv7497> guys is there any way to upgrade to jaunty beta release from the iso file of jaunty ? i tried gmountiso but of no use
[14:13] <Nasra> how is that/
[14:13] <mshanks> micca; no harm in installing and seeing what happens :)
[14:13] <Nasra> ?
[14:13] <grawity> Jarie: Mostly because many Ubuntu users are new to Linux.
[14:13] <prince_jammys> !minimal | orifice_work
[14:13] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, there could be from a 3rd party app, but i DON'T KNOW OF ONE RIGHT OFF HAND.
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Jarie: trolling the Ubuntu chanenl is not good. and each OS has it's issues
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> orifice_work: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install <thing>
[14:13] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, you can try ctrl-alt-F2 and run top from there
[14:13] <mshanks> Jarie; perhaps that means they have more vocal communities, so the forums are used more. Or perhaps your lecturer has a bias against ubuntu. Or perhaps he's right.
[14:13] <Jarie> what im not trolling
[14:13] <Jarie> I'm curious
[14:13] <Soyo> !samba restart
[14:13] <prince_jammys> orifice_work: there's the alternate cd, and the minimal cd
[14:14] <Nasra> sebsebseb: how  you do that run as Virtual Machine?
[14:14] <Soyo> !samba
[14:14] <mshanks> Jarie; but the beauty is they're all free, so any one can try them all and decide for themselves
[14:14] <Huufarted> dmsuperman: sorry about the caps 2 messages back.  :(  That was unintentional
[14:14] <jcfp> Soyo: use the full path, i.e. '/etc/init.d/samba restart'
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: its due to the large uptake of the distro
[14:14] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: I can run it in the terminal, but like I said by the time it unfreezes there's nothing in the list
[14:14] <micca> well .. no harm.... settign up an irc daemon could provide a security hole I guess ^^
[14:14] <micca> :P:P
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Nasra: get the binary for linux hosts from http://www.virtualbox.org
[14:14] <Nasra> sebsebseb: thought I could arrange that in the Bios?
[14:14] <jpds> micca: Any service can.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> !virtualbox
[14:14] <Jarie> is it possible to install ubuntu with NO junk in it (i dont like all those apps... i dont want ANY apps)
[14:14] <Soyo> jcfp: I'll give it a shot
[14:14] <sipior> allen: i need to go in a few minutes, but i think the problem is in your .gnome2 directory. sometimes gnome gets a little confused, leaving it in an awkward state. that would explain why you get a background and cursor, but no toolbars. if you move that directory temporarily, you force gnome to reinitialise it, hopefully fixing your problem. alternatively, making a new account would be a quick way to verify that that is where the problem lies. good luck!
[14:14] <Huufarted> dmsuperman: Ctrl-Alt-F2 will run the terminal without worrying about X.  So if X is locked up, it won't affect the terminal that way.
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Jarie: and  Mandriva is known as a noobs distro big time,  more so than Ubuntu, but Ubuntu  is just better :)
[14:15] <sebsebseb> Jarie: I mean that is by the people that know about Mandriva
[14:15] <mshanks> micca; a hole is ok if there's nothing behind it to steal :p
[14:15] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: Hrm, good idea I didn't even think of it
[14:15] <orifice_work> Thanks guys.  I was using minibuntu, but there's no installation bundled with that 'distro'
[14:15] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: Now I must hope it spikes soon, I'm at work :P
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: you can use minimal or server to install a kernel + bootloader, you can then build a system from the ground up
[14:15] <Jarie> I mean I tried using Linux and reminded me of like getting a Dell and having TONS of random Junkware installed
[14:15] <Jarie> except Linux was way worse
[14:15] <Jarie> they put like 100 programs in
[14:15] <Jarie> that I didnt ever want to use
[14:15] <Huufarted> lol ok.  good luck dmsuperman.  I'd still recommend a second PC to ssh into it
[14:15] <FloodBot2> Jarie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <ikonia> Jarie: don't use it then
[14:15] <allen> ok sipior ive got the live cd to boot
[14:15] <micca> jpds: true.. but at least the out of box settings are somewhat safe.. me adding an irc deamon  mshanks.. lol nothing apart from personal videos and piucs of ex? ;p
[14:15] <micca> (hihi kidding)
[14:15] <micca> (kinda)
[14:15] <Jarie> No I dont want them on my hard drive, it upsets me
[14:15] <ikonia> Jarie: it's that simple, if it's not what you want/like try a different distro/os
[14:15] <Magishen> (stfu)
[14:15] <Jarie> i dont want 50,000 files filesystem
[14:15] <allen> where is this gnome2 dir located?
[14:15] <prince_jammys> Jarie: install from the minimal CD, and then install whatever you want.
[14:16] <ikonia> Magishen: don't use that language please
[14:16] <Magishen> ok soz!
[14:16] <ikonia> Jarie: don't use it then - as I have said, ranting about it in here won't change that
[14:16] <Magishen> (sthu)!
[14:16] <Boohbah> micca: that reminds me, i need to delete those pics of my ex
[14:16] <Jarie> I thought the whole point of Linux was that unlike Microsoft you could not be victim to having all this weird crap you dont want, but every Linux distro I try is the opposite
[14:16] <prince_jammys> Jarie: install from the minimal CD, and then install whatever you want.
[14:16] <micca> Jarie, in all honesty, i was mandrake in the ol days (so mandriva i guess).. n i just tryign ubuntu now.. gotta say its got a great feel to it so far (and yes.. hope this does not insult anyone.. but also partially due to several similar aspects and gui layouts like vista which i have gotten used to)
[14:16] <eterna1> !find firefox
[14:17] <Jarie> minimal CD has nothing at all?
[14:17] <evelyette> hi
[14:17] <ikonia> Jarie: you can install/ install what you want
[14:17] <eterna1> !find firefox
[14:17] <ikonia> Jarie: sorry, install/uninstall
[14:17] <Jarie> is the minimal one fully supported?
[14:17] <evelyette> I have a problem with my usb external hard drive...when I plug it in dmesg reports: [28864.365369] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port
[14:17] <Myrtti> !list
[14:17] <evelyette> anybody know what's going on ?
[14:17] <eterna1> is newest firefox in the synaptic update manager?
[14:17] <jpds> Tcl: ping
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: it boots and you install from the web, you can install a basic system with some basic drivers and then apt-get install everything you want
[14:17] <micca> Boohbah, i actually had a share at home when my ex was at my place some yrs ago.. then i moved to a uni residence.. and i forgot to unshare it all ... LOL pretty fricking compromising stuff I gotta say :(
[14:17] <tv7497> ikonia: hello sir is there a way to upgrade to jaunty from ibex from the iso that i just downloaded ?
[14:17] <prince_jammys> Jarie: the minimal CD has the base system. you then can add whatever you like
[14:17] <ikonia> !upgrade > tv7497
[14:17] <Huufarted> Jarie: the purpose of linux is to give you a 100% open and free alternative that you can do with however you want.  It prevents you from being locked into specific software vendors and from spending tons of money on the software you need to run.
[14:17] <Jarie> Ok I have another concern
[14:17] <Jarie> I wil try the minimal CD however
[14:18] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: I don't observe any odd behavior, but it's hard to tell if it's locking up because X usage keeps spiking to 20%
[14:18] <Tcl> jpds:pong ?
[14:18] <micca> jarie: what is it u wish to do with your ditro> what are yo used to etc?
[14:18] <Jarie> with Linux you cant download a program from a web site and run it. Like if your friend makes a game and puts it on his site. Or if someone makes a scene Demo... or any other of thousands of little programs
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: another way is to install a regular system then remove what you do not need
[14:18] <Jarie> linux doesnt support downloading stuff and installing it
[14:18] <yoriel> hi everybody
[14:18] <utakbiya> hi everyone! Do you have crossover games full? Thanks in advance
[14:18] <prince_jammys> Jarie: yes, you can.
[14:18] <Huufarted> jarie, yes it does.
[14:18] <micca> well jarie.. you can
[14:18] <Jarie> No it doesnt
[14:18] <ikonia> Jarie: it does if it's packaged correctly
[14:18] <jpds> Tcl: Sorry, there was something bot-ish about you :)
[14:18] <Huufarted> Jarie: yes.   Do you have crossover games full? Thanks in advance
[14:19] <Jarie> none of you do it
[14:19] <eterna1> lol jarie you can you just have to set it up
[14:19] <yoriel> how i know wich is my network
[14:19] <evelyette> edthefox, yes...the same problem
[14:19] <Huufarted> Jarie: go look up what a .deb file is....
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: depends how they are coded etc, some will, some wont. You cant run linux apps at all in windows but linux has abstraction to allow you to run some of them
[14:19] <yoriel> in this syntaxis
[14:19] <prince_jammys> Jarie: it's going to run windows executables.
[14:19] <yoriel> <IP_ADDRESS>/x
[14:19] <tv7497> ikonia: none of that was useful :(
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: look at www.winehq.com
[14:19] <prince_jammys> Jarie: i meant NOT going to ...
[14:19] <micca> ActionParsnip,  erm.. cygwin.. hummingbird?
[14:19] <ikonia> tv7497: that explains how to upgrade, what is not clear ?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> micca: what is hummingbird?
[14:19] <Tcl> jpds : no problem , i love eggdrops :)
[14:20] <mshanks> Jarie; you can't use a .exe no... but that's been packaged to work on windows. (although, most of them work through Wine anyway) ubuntu uses .deb packages which you can download and "just run"
[14:20] <Huufarted> oh snap!
[14:20] <Huufarted> mshanks, they got booted
[14:20] <eterna1> i have had ubuntu for aprox 10 mins and i have noticed i can install run anything
[14:20] <utakbiya> hi everyone! Do you have crossover games full? Thanks in advance
[14:20] <edthefox> evelyette: hrm... beats me, have you checked it on a different computer to test if it still works?
[14:20] <micca> hummingbird connectivity provides an x windows environment in windows
[14:20] <Boohbah> !ot | utakbiya
[14:20] <evelyette> edthefox, yes it works fine on my laptop
[14:20] <mshanks> Huufarted; didn't notice! my bad.
[14:20] <tv7497> ikonia: well it didnt say how to upgrade from a cd ( well if i didint read it properly i cant find anything there :( )
[14:20] <micca> ActionParsnip, sorry forgot to add yoru nick
[14:20] <utakbiya> ok thanks
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Jare: some windows apps run great in linux, some documents can be accessed using a different app to a windows one
[14:20] <tv7497> didnt*
[14:20] <Huufarted> mshanks: I'll let it slide this time.  ;P
[14:20] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: are you still there?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> micca: i use XMing
[14:21] <mshanks> Huufarted, you're too kind :-)
[14:21] <ikonia> tv7497: you need to use the alternative CD - however I'd strongly advise against using the CD to upgrade as Jaunty is changing all the time and you need the current versions
[14:21] <Huufarted> Jimi_Neutral: if you start typing someone's name and then hit TAB, if they are in this room, it will autocomplete their name.  It's an easy way to see if someone is present
[14:21] <micca> ActionParsnip,  sure but i just was saying wine works on linux as those progams work on windows in principle (i.e. running linux binaries in an env. inside th eother system).. so as such.. one can run linux on windows
[14:21] <micca> linux programs*
[14:21] <edthefox> evelyette: i dunno man
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> micca: well they arent running ON windows, only the display is disaplyed on the windows system
[14:22] <micca> hmmmmm now.. mshanks.. u got an advice if to use original ircd server or hybrid7 used with oftnet?
[14:22] <micca> ya ok true
[14:22] <eterna1> ActionParsnip: yes using gentoo i was running wine and able to access my windows hd to run programs such as photoshop
[14:22] <micca> but that does nto go for cygwin eh
[14:22] <eterna1> ActionParsnip: yes using gentoo i was running wine and able to access my windows hd to run programs such as photoshop
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> eternally: exactly, some apps do work
[14:22] <micca> eternal.. that is not what ActionParsnip  was denying or anything
[14:23] <mshanks> micca, I honestly have no idea. As I said before, I'd strongly recommend reading a lot of documentation - from what little I've read, it's quite a complicated process. I wouldn't bother picking your software until you know what exactly you need.
[14:23] <eterna1> i know micca
[14:23] <frostburn> how come there's no man for umask o.O
[14:23] <eterna1> he was saying that you can i just backed it up
[14:23] <micca> mshanks.. ok sorry for bothering you so much on this issue lol :) you have been helpful though xx
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Jare: any other questions?
[14:23] <incorrect> I want to configure X manually, is there a tool i can use?
[14:24] <eterna1> lol incorrect
[14:24] <Huufarted> frostburn: type this:  umask --help
[14:24] <eterna1> X would be as in X server?
[14:24] <Huufarted> frostburn: lol well that command I gave you will error out, but it gives you basic syntax
[14:24] <frostburn> Huufarted, not the same as a man though
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: gedit, nano, vi
[14:24] <incorrect> eterna1, :D well I want to stop it auto detecting
[14:24] <Huufarted> frostburn quite right
[14:25] <abhra> when i tried to connect my nokia using gammu it asks for gnapplet.is there any for s60 v3?i could not find one
[14:25] <Huufarted> frostburn: this might help you:  http://ibm5.ma.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/man-cgi?umask+2
[14:25] <prince_jammys> frostburn: umask is a shell builtin. 'help umask', or man bash and search for it.
[14:25] <mshanks> micca, not a problem - that's why I'm here. I can't really offer more help because a) I don't know for sure and b) I really think you need to do more reading before going any further :)
[14:25] <incorrect> there used to be a tool to generate X11 config
[14:25] <micca> true
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: it got dropped after gutsy unfortunately
[14:26] <micca> ah man i dont even rememebr the shortcut for highlighting my own name
[14:26] <frostburn> prince_jammys, yeah, just wondering why the man isn't included.  help umask isn't the same documentation
[14:26] <incorrect> ActionParsnip, oh how useless
[14:26] <frostburn> Huufarted, yeah i used that too =]
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> micca: type your own name
[14:26] <micca> micca goes off and downloads ircd and just runs it .. and burns!!!
[14:26] <prince_jammys> frostburn: bash builtins don't have man pages. they have 'help'
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: tell me about it :(
[14:26] <micca> ye but wasnt there like a if you want another colourl. like micca waves
[14:26] <mshanks> good luck :p
[14:26] <Huufarted> frostburn: when I need a command, a lot of the time I"ll just google it.  'man umask' returns quite a bit.
[14:26] <micca> lol mshanks :p
[14:26] <mshanks> do /me perhaps
[14:26] <prince_jammys> frostburn: if you want umask(2) and can't access it, install manpages-dev
[14:27] <micca> at least if i survive it , i can give you soem useful feedback ;)
[14:27]  * micca burns
[14:27] <micca> YAY
[14:27] <mshanks> Definately :) Always interested in new things.
[14:27] <micca> thank yo.. that was it i was tyyping /micca
[14:27] <Linuxrevolution> hi all
[14:27] <Huufarted> micca, if you survive it then you can be the go-to person if someone in the future has the same issue.  :)
[14:27] <Linuxrevolution> I have a question about net and ubuntu
[14:27] <Huufarted> micca: that's how a lot of people in here got to answering questions instead of asking so many
[14:27]  * micca looks at linuxrevolution and guesses the revolution is .. so can I install linux on a windows monitor?
[14:27] <Huufarted> !ask Linuxrevolution
[14:27] <Huufarted> !ask | Linuxrevolution
[14:28] <micca> sure thing Huufarted
[14:28] <prince_jammys> frostburn: manpages-dev has man pages for system calls. try installing that.
[14:28] <Linuxrevolution> ok
[14:28] <micca> lol.. .me knew it
[14:28]  * micca knew it
[14:28] <Linuxrevolution> when I wanna download anything
[14:28] <frostburn> prince_jammys, ah much better, thanks =]
[14:28] <prince_jammys> frostburn: welcome
[14:28] <Mathias90> Hello. I have a problem  with my Ubuntu. I've just installed Clonezilla server edition on an Ubuntu desktop. I've setted up DHCP, DNS, etc.. I have an external hdd connected to the server, to get the images from, called /media/backup. Though, Clonezilla won't allow me to use /media/backup, so I need to call it something else. I've tried to put the images in root, just to test if it was ok, and that's no problem. How can I change the device name?
[14:29] <Linuxrevolution> for example a software net just stop downloading and start again!!
[14:29] <Huufarted> Mathias90: try creating a symlink:  ln -s /media/backup /backup
[14:29] <Linuxrevolution> stop start stop start!!! from anywhere even Synaptic
[14:29] <Huufarted> Mathias90: then tell Clonezilla to use /backup
[14:29] <Magishen> i am da maker of conflicker
[14:29] <Mathias90> Huufarted - > a sysmlink?
[14:29] <Magishen> u r all gone
[14:29] <Linuxrevolution> is this Ubuntu problem???
[14:29] <Magishen> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[14:29] <FloodBot2> Magishen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:30] <Mathias90> symlink*
[14:30] <Magishen> FLOODBOT U WNAT ME TO OWN U NOOB
[14:30] <bazhang> Magishen, stop that
[14:30] <Magishen> NO U STOP DAT
[14:30] <eterna1> !ban Magishen
[14:30] <Huufarted> Mathias90: it tells the operating system that /backup is really accessing /media/backup, just with a different name
[14:30]  * MenZa huggles bazhang
[14:30] <eterna1> lol
[14:30] <Huufarted> !ban | Magishen
[14:30] <Linuxrevolution> any idea?
[14:31] <eterna1> thanx Huufarted
[14:31]  * sebsebseb isn't sure if  Magishen deserves his help in PM, but nevermind
[14:31]  * prince_jammys is sure of the answer to that one
[14:31] <Mathias90> Ahh.. Exactly what I'm looking for. Can I PM you?
[14:31] <tv7497> ikonia: sir if you don't mind take a look at this http://<IP_ADDRESS>  screenshot.png i was able to mount it but no pop up window came up asking to upgrade ( alternate cd method )
[14:31] <Huufarted> Mathias90: if you were talking to me, then I don't mind if you pm me
[14:32] <Lorkas> hello
[14:32] <ikonia> tv7497: are you using the alternative image ?
[14:32] <ikonia> tv7497: there are also instructions what to do if the popup box doesnt come up
[14:32] <micca> hmm Linuxrevolution , doesnt sound too great.. but i have no idea hwo to help on that , sorry..
[14:32] <ikonia> tv7497: I agaon strongly recommend you to NOT use the cd method to upgrade to the beata release due to constant chances being made
[14:32] <Lorkas> i have sort of a problem while trying to install ubuntu server 8.10 on a Fujitsu siemens f250 server
[14:33] <Linuxrevolution> micca: when I use Kget I dont have this problem!!
[14:33] <ikonia> tv7497: that does not lok like the alternative CD image
[14:33] <ikonia> tv7497: that looks like the desktop cd rom
[14:33] <Lorkas> i downloaded the cd from the ubuntu website and tried it, it works, i changed the boot sequence so it goes from the cd
[14:33] <Linuxrevolution> micca: I downloaded ubuntu 9.4 without any stop
[14:33] <Nasra> sebsebseb: how do I know what I have before installing VirtualBox for my Ubuntu 8.10("intrepid Ibex") I mean the amd / intel cpu?
[14:34] <sebsebseb> prince_jammys: he would probably be bad for our community,  and it seems he isn't up for the slight learning curve anyway
[14:34] <Lorkas> but it's not booting from the cd
[14:34] <sebsebseb> Nasra: are you on 32bit or 64bit?
[14:34] <tv7497> ikonia: oh ! i must have downloaded the wrong version :( is there any other way to upgrade to jaunty sir ?
[14:34] <zombor> im trying to install some software, and it's asking for "glib-gettext >= 2.2.0" what package is that in apt? I cant seem to find it
[14:34] <Nasra> 64bit
[14:34] <Lorkas> 32 here if you're asking
[14:34] <Lorkas> oh
[14:34] <Lorkas> nvm
[14:34] <Lorkas> soz ^^
[14:34] <ikonia> tv7497 the methods are explained inthe links ubottu sent you
[14:34] <prince_jammys> sebsebseb: regardless of community, people who insult you while seeking help need to get lost.
[14:34] <Nasra> sebsebseb: that what is says in the my box....
[14:34] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ok get the 64bit version then
[14:34] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: Hey bud are you there?
[14:35] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> not really, be back in 15 minutes
[14:35] <Nasra> sebsebseb:   http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[14:35] <sebsebseb> prince_jammys: yeah he insulsted Ubuntu, when I explained that the easiest way to  sort out his drive issue, was to boot up Windows and let it shut down properly.  anyway we are going off topic
[14:35] <tv7497> ikonia: err i closed it sir would you mind sending it again ?
[14:35] <micca> haha.. here I go mshanks : I dl ircd, installed it and it says startign daemon.. but then when i go to services in admini. it doesnt show... so im hopoing i don thave a rogue ircd running as I will now read up on the ircd.conf stuff :)
[14:35] <marie_blubb> i#m installing samba and use swat to configure. obviously swat doesnt get the datat from the smb.conf as bottoms like global are missing. what diod I do wrong
[14:35] <Nasra> sebastien: has to be the first one on top
[14:35] <ikonia> !upgrade > tv7497
[14:36] <hett> hi there! can you guys help me with one keyring issue?
[14:36] <Lorkas> Ok, i have an issue trying to install Ubuntu server 8.10 if someone can pm me to helo, i would be grateful, thanks
[14:36] <tv7497> ikonia: thanks sir :)
[14:36] <Huufarted> Anybody able to help me with some gigabit NICs that refuse to run at gigabit speeds and only run at 100 mbit?  I have a forum post here so you can see what's happening.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6999623
[14:36] <Nasra> sebsebseb: and then it talks about the dkms package as well....
[14:36] <sebsebseb> Nasra: it should be pretty obvious as to which to download :)
[14:36] <hett> I need to remove it
[14:36] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ok i'll have a look
[14:36] <digifor> my wee acer aspire one is giving out 99 99 99 99 99 99 when I boot...
[14:36] <incorrect> has anyone got Xorg working with a DRAC card?
[14:36] <Nasra> thanks
[14:36] <digifor> Is there a way to fix this?
[14:36] <edthefox> Lorkas: what's your issue?
[14:36] <Huufarted> digifor: it's giving that as the MAC address?
[14:37] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yep 8.10 for amd64 then
[14:37] <digifor> Huufarted, no when it boots.
[14:37] <Nasra> ok
[14:37] <Enpires> Hello! i've a trouble... i think that my bootloader disappeared... could anyone help me?
[14:37] <sebsebseb> Nasra: Intrepid Ibex
[14:37] <Nasra> yes
[14:37] <sebsebseb> !grub
[14:37] <hett> anyone? can you help me with removing this goddammmed keyring?
[14:37] <digifor> no grub jus 99 99 99 99 etc
[14:37] <Huufarted> digifor: it's giving 99 99 99 99 99 99 out for what?
[14:37] <Shadow121> LOL
[14:38] <tv7497> ikonia: thanks a lot upgrading has started !!
[14:38] <Huufarted> digifor: it just displays that on the screen and nothing else?
[14:38] <Nasra> do I sudo apt-get install VirtualBox -2.1.4 this way?
[14:38] <digifor> Thats what I am asking as well
[14:38] <Lorkas> Ok, i have an issue trying to install Ubuntu server 8.10 if someone can pm me to helo, i would be grateful, thanks
[14:38] <sebsebseb> Nasra:  no
[14:38] <Ienorand> Can I make gdm autologin after reastarting x, (e.g. alt+prntscrn+k)
[14:38] <_spm_Draget> Where do I set systemwide environmentvirables when i am on the console and do not have xorg running?
[14:38] <digifor> It is nearly brand new.
[14:38] <sebsebseb> Nasra: download the deb and just click on it or.  be in the folder in terminal and  sudo dpkg -i   name.deb
[14:38] <Boohbah> Ienorand: yes just set the persistent autologin in the login manager config
[14:39] <kitche> digifor: reinstall grub
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, i removed network manager on my box under instruction from this clonezilla tutorial and now i cant connect to the internet through sdaid box....i assume that i have to use /etc/network/interfaces but im not sure of the settings
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> i want it to use dhcp
[14:39] <kitche> digifor: but I never heard of grub doing 99 99 99 99 I know lilo does that
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> and the other card in the box is just for local distribution using clonezilla
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> so eth0 needs to be dhcp and eth1 needs to be a private static address
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> any ideas?
[14:40] <Enpires> sebsebseb, if the message about the grup was for me i think is not what i need... i'll try to explain better: after i see the ASUS logo, when i have to choose what OS i want to start, i can only see a flashing line and i can do nothing..
[14:40] <digifor> It must be a weird acer aspire one thing. I was starting to wonder if I had borked my hd
[14:40] <Dan> hello
[14:40] <mickOw> hi
[14:40] <Devcoder> Hello people, Today when i woke up i saw that my computer had an BSOD. Restarted, still got BSOD's. Tried to reinstall vista, couldnt even get into the installation. So i tried XP, got still of "cannot read the bla bla file want to skip?". I skipped and got it installed, and the computer randomly shuted down. And got BSOD. So i tried ubuntu, but i get "Crc error , System halted".
[14:40] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok odd.
[14:41] <sebsebseb> Dan: hi
[14:41] <sebsebseb> Enpires: you in Ubuntu now or not?
[14:41] <NoobGuest> What is a backport update?
[14:41] <_spm_Draget> Where do I set systemwide environmentvirables when i am on the console and do not have xorg running?
[14:41] <Enpires> i'm using another computer
[14:41] <Devcoder> I tried to first disconnect 1 hdd and use the other one, and then reverse, but still got the still problem. What is the chance of both HDDs beeing messed up? any ideás?
[14:41] <Dan> hi
[14:41] <Enpires> i cant start both vista and ubuntu
[14:41] <Kesman_> Devcoder: probably broken hdd
[14:41] <sebsebseb> NoobGuest: silghtly new versions of programs, before they become a proper one
[14:41] <sebsebseb> !backport
[14:41] <timmytheraw> Is there a way to set the port range for connections (Not listening ports) in btdownloadcurses?  I need the ports to be predictable so that i can traffic shape w/ tcng
[14:41] <Lorkas> edthefox: well, i downloaded the ubuntu server 8.10 live cd, and the system its just not booting from the cd, although i ask him to do it
[14:41] <NoobGuest> sebsebseb: thanks, is there somewhere i could have found that? thanks!
[14:41] <Kesman_> Devcoder: maybe the sata or IDE driver of your mainboard is screwed then?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> NoobGuest: what the bot said, my descripton is a little off
[14:42] <sebsebseb> NoobGuest: and Ubuntu only does security updates
[14:42] <Droopsta915> How can I view all the images in my evolution messages.
[14:42] <Devcoder> Kesman_ could that happen all suddenly over night without restarting the comp?
[14:42] <NoobGuest> sebsebseb: yeah you caught me in midstream of typing, the thanks! answered that :P
[14:42] <Enpires> sebsebseb, have you got any idea about a solution?? (except formatting :P)
[14:42] <edthefox> Lorkas: does it hang up trying to boot or does it just boot into windows?
[14:42] <Kesman_> Devcoder: dunno, do you have the hdd's in sata or in ide?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> Enpires: are you on WIndows or Ubuntu?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> Enpires: have you got a Live CD?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> Enpires: let's find out if Grub is even on there properly or not first
[14:43] <Enpires> sebsebseb,now in ubuntu, but not in the broken pc
[14:43] <Devcoder> Kesman_ its in Sata, but its used as IDE (if you understand what i mean)
[14:43] <sebsebseb> Enpires: well if the folder for it is
[14:43] <Enpires> yes i have
[14:43] <hbekel> _spm_Draget: export VAR=val
[14:43] <Kesman_> Devcoder: yeah I do. Did you already try another sata port?
[14:43] <Lorkas> edthefox: It just boots windows, in the bios, i even changed it, so it did not boot from hdd nor floppy, only from cd, and says no OS found
[14:43] <Devcoder> Kesman_ i cannot even launch ubuntu as live cd
[14:43] <sebsebseb> Enpires: or just re install Grub onto the MBR on the broken PC
[14:43] <Enpires> have you got any guide that could help me to reinstall it?
[14:43] <farm> could anyone tell me the name of the app for managing print jobs (gui)?
[14:43] <Kesman_> Devcoder: what was the liveCD's problem?
[14:43] <edthefox> Lorkas: what kind of computer is it?
[14:43] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah what the bot gave
[14:43] <sebsebseb> !grub
[14:44] <Devcoder> Kesman_ when i choose "Start as livecd" I got the crc error
[14:44] <farm> I want to link to it from the toolbar, but i'm having issues defining it in google etc
[14:44] <Lorkas> edthefox: its a Fujitsu Siemens F250 Server, dual Intel Xeon 2'4ghx
[14:44] <edthefox> Lorkas: can you press a f-key to make it open up a boot menu
[14:44] <Devcoder> same when i choose "install"
[14:44] <sebsebseb> Enpires: also I know of a little trick to get another Grub, but it's not really the best way
[14:44] <farm> (maybe i need to sleep a little.. :/
[14:44] <Devcoder> Kesman_ even the "Check the cd for errors" gives me crc error, the only thing that dosnt is the memtest
[14:44] <Dan> Ciao
[14:45] <Lorkas> edthefox: yes, f12 and it shows a black window, then goes into windows
[14:45] <Nasra> sebsebseb: sorry I was in the middle of phoncall will bet back to you shortly....
[14:45] <Jimi_Neutral> i have 2 cards, one for clonezilla distro and one for WAN access. The WAN access needs to be DHCP and the clonezilla dstro needs to be private static please help me to config this, i am getting desperate and my boss is chewing my ass
[14:45] <Kesman> Devcoder: hmm thats weird.. Do you have another pc or how are you on irc atm?
[14:45] <Lorkas> edthefox: (after selecting boot from cd)
[14:45] <prince_jammys> farm: there are many. i think one already comes with gnome. check out also: http://localhost:631/ in a web browser
[14:45] <edthefox> Lorkas: will it boot to cd on another computer?
[14:45] <Devcoder> Kesman another comp, kesman gimme a sec m8 im brb :) ill higlight you in a sec
[14:45] <Kesman> Devcoder: ok
[14:45] <clearscreen> Guess I'm the one asking the question this time :) I was trying to install vista. Booted into ubuntu live cd and resized my ext3 partition. Problem is that vista install does see the reserved space and apparently is able to create a 'new' partition in that space, but it can't find 'a partition suitable for installation' for some reason. I'm now trying to create an ntfs partition from ubuntu, but gparted cant make ntfs partition.. MY QUESTI
[14:46] <eterna1> how do you people keep up in here
[14:46] <Lorkas> edthefox: it boots on this one yep
[14:46] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: VIsta wastes your psyical hard disk
[14:46] <clearscreen> sebsebseb: oh?
[14:46] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: can't resize VIsta to a good size  without risking dataloss
[14:46] <clearscreen> Meh, guess I'll just install XP then
[14:46] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: yeah GParted won't do vista's partition properly,  and the vista resizing itself stuff is not that good either
[14:46] <farm> prince_jammys, the one that seems to be standarde in ubuntu - just the print job bit - not a printer manager... although localhost:631 could be a good plan :) ta!
[14:47] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: if you got enough RAM, you can  virtual machine Vista  or  XP
[14:47] <clearscreen> well gparted doesnt seem to be able to make ntfs partitions here.. so meh
[14:47] <edthefox> Lorkas: ic, well. i'm at a loss
[14:47] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: fine for everything pretty much, but not 3D games
[14:47] <Whitor> clearscreen, xp's better anyway :]
[14:47] <edthefox> Lorkas: I would just say to verify your bios settings
[14:47] <clearscreen> sebsebseb: the problem is that I need to develop C# XNA apps for my job, which is very buggy (very early 3d acceleration support) in VM's
[14:47] <Lorkas> edthefox: i updated the BIOS and rechecked the BIOS Settings,
[14:47] <Shadow121> ah dammit
[14:47] <edthefox> Lorkas: do you have a windows cd  to see if it will boot to that?
[14:47] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: ok
[14:48] <Whitor> than vista ...
[14:48] <Enpires> sebsebseb about the trick to get another grup, i'm going to try frist the guide that the boot gave me, if i cant fix the problem i'll try that trick :) thanks alot for your help
[14:48] <Lorkas> edthefox: nope
[14:48] <clearscreen> XP it is then... not like im paying for this anyway
[14:48] <clearscreen> lol
[14:48] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: well you can put Vista, on  and save to the partition from Ubuntu anyway
[14:48] <clearscreen> alright, cya :D
[14:48] <sebsebseb> Enpires: well I didn't tell you the trick, but yeah
[14:48] <Lorkas> edthefox: i also downloaded Gentoo to see if it worked and it is not loading it either
[14:49] <edthefox> Lorkas: sounds like it's an issue with your fujitsu box
[14:49] <Lorkas> edthefox: yeh but i can not find the issue
[14:50] <Lorkas> edthefox: i'm a nublet with servers though
[14:50] <edthefox> Lorkas: if I where you, I would google it
[14:50] <eterna1>  what does ubuntu deal with ? ?rpm ?sh ???
[14:50] <Enpires> sebsebseb, little problem :P i'm into the grub (sudo grub) and i tipe "find /grub/stage1" but it say me "error 15, file not found" (also if i type find /boot/grub/stage1)
[14:50] <Jimi_Neutral> i have 2 cards, one for clonezilla distro and one for WAN access. The WAN access needs to be DHCP and the clonezilla dstro needs to be private static please help me to config this
[14:51] <cip_> hi all  i have a problem?
[14:51] <Lorkas> edthefox: i think it could be a server-only think, because on startup, before loading the BIOS it says
[14:51] <Kesman> cip_: you really do?
[14:51] <Lorkas> edthefox: Adapter scan.....
[14:51] <etfb> Hey, you Ubuntu users!  Do you have any idea what a luxury it is to be in the middle of installing some program and be able to just "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and have an entire compiler toolchain magically appear on your frakking hard drive?  It's incredible...
[14:51] <etfb> I love Ubuntu sometimes...
[14:51] <Lorkas> edthefox: could be an issue of the SCSI adapter?
[14:51] <cip_> i wanted a linux driver for kyocera km 1635 printed? have you a idea
[14:51] <cip_> ?
[14:51] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> ok, just in time, you have dhcp server installed and serving on your eth2 yet but not on eth0 ?
[14:52] <Cyc> Using ubuntu 8.10: is all the configuration for panels in home/.gconf/apps/panel ?  So if i back up that folder then change all my panels. I can restore to the backup?
[14:52] <Enpires> sebsebseb, are you still there? :)
[14:52] <opticalmouse> #ubuntu-my
[14:52] <Lorkas> edthefox: I'm thinking on removing it, since i dont have anything plugged to it
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok  boot the computer from the Live CD
[14:53] <edthefox> Lorkas: that may be it but I dunno, depends on the server i guess
[14:53] <Enpires> done
[14:53] <Lorkas> edthefox: but i just dont have idea of what it does, so i might just fuck the things up ^^
[14:53] <Enpires> i was reading this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Enpires: right yeah
[14:54] <Enpires> but i cant do the "find /grub/stage1" part
[14:54] <Pooria> I just got a VPS from 1and1 with ubuntu 8 installed minimal / when I try use aptitude I'll get this error " -bash: aptitude: command not found
[14:54] <Pooria> "
[14:54] <Enpires> cause it says "error 15: file not found"
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah we are going to find out what Grub stuff is on your Ubuntu install
[14:54] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: yes that was the case but now since removing the nm i can do whatever.....so it makes sense to have eth0 using dhcp, connecting to the netowrk and going to the internet and eth1 as the private one
[14:55] <Enpires> ok so what i have to do? (however thanks 4 your patience)
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Enpires:  if you open up computer
[14:55] <Enpires> ok
[14:55] <edthefox> Lorkas: I would ask questions here -> http://forum.ts.fujitsu.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=77
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Enpires: you see the partition there?
[14:55] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: eth1 being static
[14:55] <Enpires> sure
[14:55] <Enpires> but only from the live CD
[14:55] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> okay, they go ahead, have your eth0 towards the wan and eth1 towards the lan to serve clonezilla
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah  the Live CD can access the partition that is on the hard disk
[14:55] <master> urbanterror
[14:55] <Enpires> yes it can
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ,but don't get mixed up with the live cd file system
[14:56] <master> #urbanterror
[14:56] <Enpires> yeah is what i thought
[14:56] <sebsebseb> Enpires: open  the one on your partition and then go to boot
[14:56] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: yeah thats what i want, would you happen to know what i would have to type into /etc/network/interfaces to actually achieve this lol
[14:56] <Enpires> so i found the right boot folder path, and i type that one
[14:56] <Pooria> when I use sudo apt-get install mysql I'll recieve message that saying thereis not package :(( what should I do?
[14:56] <Enpires> but it still tells me the same thing
[14:57] <sebsebseb> Enpires: oh your using terminal?  I am saying to use GUI :d
[14:57] <Nasra> sebastien: are you there....it says wrong acquicteture ---->error
[14:57] <Enpires> oh sorry :D ok i'm in the folder now
[14:57] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ok  your on 32bit I guess then
[14:57] <Lorkas> edthefox: seems like a server only thing
[14:57] <Nasra> sebsebseb: then you correct
[14:57] <Pooria> no body wants to answer me?
[14:57] <sebsebseb> Nasra: or you don't have hardware virtualization set up or whatever
[14:57] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you have it okay i believe as earlier,  iface eth0 inet dhcp;  iface eth1 inet static  something like this
[14:57] <sebsebseb> Nasra: get the other one then
[14:57] <Nasra> ok
[14:57] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> man interfaces for a bit more detail
[14:57] <ziroday`> Pooria: what do you want to install, the server or the client?
[14:58] <Nasra> sebsebseb: be right back
[14:58] <Devcoder> Kesman and yes im using an other comp for irc
[14:58] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: man interfaces?
[14:58] <sebsebseb> Enpires: actsully you could list the stuff in terminal
[14:58] <eterna1> hmm
[14:58] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> yes to get the manual
[14:58] <Lorkas> edthefox: now it aint loading even windows because it says the system can not read from the boot cd
[14:58] <sebsebseb> Enpires:   ok  get into there on the terminal.   /media/partition/boot/grub
[14:58] <Enpires> sebsebseb, do i have to list all files? using "ls"?
[14:58] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: tpye man interfaces into a terminal?
[14:58] <Pooria> I have a vPS server installed in minimal, I don't have any aptitude and I can not install anything from apt-get .... thereis not package avaible .... what should I do ziroday ?
[14:58] <Lorkas> edthefox: (i unplugged the scsi card
[14:58] <sebsebseb> Enpires: sure
[14:58] <Kesman> Devcoder: windows on it? Get yourself a program called "unetbootin" and use it to create a bootable usb-stick with ubuntu 8.10 on it and boot again, so you wont waste cd's anymore
[14:59] <Enpires> ok do you want the list of all files?
[14:59] <sebsebseb> Enpires: just  want to check that the Grub files are there or not, probably are, and then  maybe it's just your menu list that has gone bad
[14:59] <ziroday`> Pooria: err what? What do you mean you don't have apt-get or aptitude?
[14:59] <Kesman> Devcoder: then try again, it should be able to boot to livecd without any hdd's installed
[14:59] <eterna1> i love the updating and package manager on this distro
[14:59] <Devcoder> kesman how much space is needed?
[14:59] <sebsebseb> Enpires: sure everything in /boot and /boot/grub
[14:59] <Kesman> Devcoder: ~700mb, how much does ubuntu image take?
[14:59] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok i did that and its not working
[14:59] <Devcoder> Kesman biggest usb drive are 256mb.....
[14:59] <Kesman> oh crap
[15:00] <Enpires> okok the files that i have into the grub folder are [default / device.map / menu.list]
[15:00] <Kesman> they cost like 10eur in the local supermarket dude
[15:00] <Kesman> with at least 2gb
[15:00] <Enpires> sebsebseb, into boot (wait i have to type all names by myself)
[15:00] <Pooria> ziroday , for example see this statement and error :
[15:00] <Pooria> root@s15333026:~/mysql-5.1.33# sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:00] <Pooria> Reading package lists... Done
[15:00] <Pooria> Building dependency tree... Done
[15:00] <Pooria> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[15:00] <FloodBot2> Pooria: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <Pooria> root@s15333026:~/mysql-5.1.33#
[15:00] <Kesman> lol :D
[15:00] <sebsebseb> Enpires: not if you ls and then pastebin
[15:01] <LjL> Pooria: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:01] <Enpires> yeah but how can i do that if i'm chatting using another computer? :D
[15:01] <Devcoder> Kesman hehe yeah just wanted to tell you that i don't have one now hahaa
[15:01] <Pooria> zeroday see this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/142807/
[15:01] <sebsebseb> Enpires: to be honest it's probably just a bad grub menu.list file
[15:01] <ziroday`> Pooria: don't flood, secondly why/how are you logged in as root, finally pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:01] <Devcoder> Kesman ill try an other sata port first i think. and maybe try the hdds in an other computer
[15:01] <Kesman> Devcoder: good idea
[15:01] <Enpires> sebsebseb, ok... have you got any guide to fix that menu.list?
[15:01] <sebsebseb> Enpires: the LIve CD is internet connected as well or not?
[15:01] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> can you post the /etc/network/interfaces file now? and results of  ifconfig
[15:02] <Enpires> i have to install my wireless drivers to go online
[15:02] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok, will take me a bit cause i will have to tpye em out
[15:02] <Mozillero> hola
[15:02] <Enpires> do i need to?
[15:02] <Mozillero> hola
[15:02] <mshanks> Enpires, cables work well too you know :p
[15:02] <Devcoder> Kesman thanks for the tips :) im gonna try the cd in an other compter to to check that the cd isint fued
[15:02] <sebsebseb> Enpires: would be useful
[15:02] <LjL> !es | Mozillero
[15:02] <sebsebseb> Enpires: can you do it without loads of hassle?
[15:02] <Enpires> okok
[15:02] <Pooria> zeroday, hereis my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/142808/ | I don't know how I have logged in as root , this VPS is from 1and1 and 1and1 made this happen!
[15:02] <Niphyr> ping
[15:02] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> no sweat, i have things to do too, so be patient, and awaken me once you;re ready
[15:03] <Enpires> so wait 1 minute that i connet my computer :D
[15:03] <sebsebseb> Enpires: you said it just flash on Grub?
[15:03] <LjL> Pooria: ugh. i don't even think that's an official ubuntu mirror
[15:03] <lee_> hello very guy
[15:03] <sebsebseb> Enpires: it's an odd issue.   bad menu.list missing files in boot  /boot/grub  and  Grub didn't install properly to the MBR.  that's what comes to mind
[15:03] <Pooria> LjL , what should I do now then? please help me I need this VPS
[15:04] <Enpires> sebsebseb, ok... so i can do anything?
[15:04] <Enpires> *can i do anything?
[15:04] <sebsebseb> Enpires: re installing Grub, would probably help
[15:04] <ziroday`> Pooria: who setup this VPS, its done extremely badly. You need to change your repo's to some that actually exist
[15:04] <LjL> Pooria: either complain to your VPS server for telling you they gave you Ubuntu, when they didn't...
[15:04] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ,but it may be as simple as changing something in menu list to get it working
[15:04] <LjL> Pooria: or, i guess, change your sources.list to point to REAL ubuntu mirrors
[15:04] <mshanks> Pooria; ask 1and1 to re-create the vps with Ubuntu on it
[15:04] <Pooria> LjL would u give me source.llist ?
[15:05] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah if you can get online with that,  I can see the menu.list and at least tell you if that's ok or not
[15:05] <Pooria> mashanks , actualy I did and got this shit
[15:05] <LjL> Pooria: yes, moment
[15:05] <LjL> language please
[15:05] <Pooria> LjL thanks man
[15:05] <mshanks> Pooria, you might be able to do that yourself - most vps allow you to re-create an original image (and they might have a selection of distro images you can pick from)
[15:05] <Pooria> sorry *
[15:05] <Enpires> sebsebseb, okok now i try to pastebin the menu list
[15:05] <LjL> Pooria: is the server located in canada?
[15:05] <Pooria> no
[15:05] <Pooria> LjL is in US
[15:05] <LjL> ok, i'll use the US mirrors then
[15:06] <Pooria> LjL thanks man
[15:06] <Enpires> !pastebin
[15:06] <Jimi_Neutral> can someone give me the pastebin link please
[15:06] <sebsebseb> LjL: I  know your also knowledagable :)  maybe you can help  Enpries get Grub working,  he only gets a flash.   He is going to pastebin the menu.list
[15:06] <Jimi_Neutral> lol tu
[15:06] <LjL> Pooria: this should work http://paste.ubuntu.com/142810/
[15:06] <Pooria> LjL I should just paste this ?
[15:07] <Enpires> sebsebseb,  the menu.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/142811/
[15:07] <LjL> sebsebseb: flash like what? a USB key?
[15:07] <LjL> Pooria: you should paste it instead of your current sources.list
[15:07] <LjL> Pooria: then issue "sudo apt-get update"
[15:07] <sebsebseb> Enpires: tell your issue to  Ljl as well, he is pretty knowledgable about this kind of stuff,  more so than me in fact I expect
[15:08] <Enpires> ok thanks
[15:08] <Shadow121> where the hell is the talk about anything i want room????
[15:08] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ,but yes I will look at list
[15:08] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: here you go mate wake up! ;) http://paste.ubuntu.com/142814/
[15:08] <mshanks> #talkaboutanything ?
[15:08] <LjL> Shadow121: try #defocus
[15:08] <Enpires> LjL can you help me with my problems with GRUB
[15:08] <sebsebseb> Shadow121: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <n8tuser> Enpires -> where did you get this option from? loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk  ?
[15:08] <Enpires> sebsebseb, ok thanks you for your help :)
[15:08] <efefppo> How can I tell if I have the prop ati drivers installed?
[15:08] <Shadow121> THATS IT!!  Thanks
[15:09] <LjL> Enpires: if you explain them to me, perhaps
[15:09] <ziroday`> efefppo: whats the proper ati driver?
[15:09] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> be back in 10 min again..
[15:09] <efefppo> ziroday`: I man propriatary (or something, the one from ati)
[15:09] <Pooria> LjL , I did sudo apt-get update but got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/142816/
[15:09] <LjL> Enpires: although i'm not so familiar with GRUB to be honest, i only use a very simple configuration for it
[15:09] <Enpires> LjL the problem is that i cant choos any OS at startup :D
[15:09] <ziroday`> efefppo: pastebin your /var/xorg.0.log
[15:10] <LjL> Pooria: you haven't changed your sources.list to the one i gave you
[15:10] <Pooria> I did bro
[15:10] <LjL> Enpires: elaborate?
[15:10] <Pooria> LjL I did
[15:10] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok
[15:10] <Pooria> LjL lemme reboot vps
[15:10] <LjL> Pooria: i don't think so. "nano /etc/apt/sources.list", see what it says
[15:10] <LjL> DON'T reboot anything
[15:11] <Nasra> sebsebseb: is dowloaded and configured VirtualBox 2.1...now how does it work ? ....is it under Application, internet?
[15:11] <Nasra> is configure and everything
[15:11] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok your menu.list seems bad
[15:11] <Enpires> LjL, ok. when i start my computer i see my ASUS logo, after (when i ususally shoose what OS i want to start) i can only see a flashing line
[15:11] <Enpires> and i cant do anything
[15:11] <LjL> Enpires: so basically GRUB isn't even starting?
[15:11] <sebsebseb> LjL: this his menu.list and there seems to be quite a few issues with it   http://paste.ubuntu.com/142811/
[15:11] <Enpires> yeah, i think that
[15:11] <LjL> Enpires: do you get a prompt?
[15:12] <dcamp25> Any Java guru's here ?
[15:12] <Enpires> nono i cant type anything
[15:12] <mshanks> dcamp25, try #java ?
[15:12] <LjL> Enpires: can you boot from a live cd or something?
[15:12] <dcamp25> thanks
[15:12] <efefppo> ziroday`: http://pastebin.com/m5646d513
[15:12] <jonaskoelker> dcamp25: what's the question?
[15:12] <Enpires> yeah i did it
[15:12] <sebsebseb> LjL: he is on the live cd
[15:12] <jonathan__> hello!
[15:12] <Enpires> i'm using (in the broken pc) a live CD
[15:12] <G8_Zer0> Hey
[15:12] <LjL> ok
[15:12] <Enpires> i also copy the menu.list file on pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/142811/
[15:13] <sebsebseb> Enpires: I think a bad menu.list is your problem, after looking at that
[15:13] <Pooria> LjL can u give me againe the link of the sources.list ?
[15:13] <jonathan__> can someone tell me how to configure ffmpeg to support xvid? i allready downloaded the svn but i need the correct "./configure ..." command... i can't find it anywhere... Thanks in advance! :)
[15:13] <unr3a1> hey all, i am trying to burn an ISO with k3b, but when I load the app, I get an error saying, "No CD/DVD writer found."  What can I do?
[15:13] <LjL> Enpires: where is your root partition currently mounted?
[15:13] <LjL> Enpires: and what is it called?
[15:13] <LjL> Pooria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142810/
[15:13] <ziroday`> efefppo: you're using the open source radeon driver, not the closed source fglrx driver
[15:13] <eterna1> how sweet is that i click upgrade and it set my distro as newest one out
[15:13] <Enpires> ehm LjL, sorry if i'm so bad, but i dont know how to know that :D
[15:14] <LjL> Enpires: well, you pasted your menu.lst so your root partition must be mounted *somewhere*. how did you open menu.lst?
[15:14] <efefppo> ziroday`: thanks! wow the performance is great
[15:14] <ziroday`> jonathan__: take a look in the readme, it usually explains the configure switches there
[15:14] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> ok, you have to figure out which nic is eth0, you can do simple test, ping your dhcp server
[15:14] <sebsebseb> LjL: he did on the live cd
[15:14] <sebsebseb> LjL: after I got him to
[15:14] <LjL> sebsebseb: ok, but how?
[15:14] <G8_Zer0> Having trouble installing ubuntu on a new re-assembled pc. Basic setup with 1xIDE harddisk and 1xIDE DVD-RW. I boot up on Ubuntu disc fine, but when I've selected language and pressed install (or F4 for alternate) it goes to Console mode: Loading, please wait.... BusyBox v1.10.2.... (initramfs)... Tried several discs, low burn speed, etc. so disc should be fine. What to do ??
[15:14] <Enpires> ahh ok, i just gone into DATA/ubuntu/disks/boot/grub
[15:14] <Pooria> LjL thankssssssssssss bro updating
[15:14] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: how do i do that on my ubuntu box
[15:15] <G8_Zer0> Running Ubuntu v8.10
[15:15] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: try with acpi=off
[15:15] <G8_Zer0> Where can I select that?
[15:15] <LjL> Enpires: wouldn't that be /media/DATA/ubuntu/dists/boot/grub?
[15:15] <G8_Zer0> ziroday` -> Where can I select that?
[15:15] <Enpires> ehm... right :D
[15:15] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: its a an option when booting up the livecd
[15:15] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> work with one interface at a time, sudo ifdown eth0;  move the ethernet cable and see if you get an ip address and ping the router
[15:15] <LjL> Enpires: look, type "mount" and pastebin the output
[15:15] <Pooria> LjL my server doesn't have aptitude , just has apt-get , how can I install aptitude ?
[15:15] <mshanks> G8_Zer0, edit the boot command and add acpi=off to it
[15:15] <G8_Zer0> ziroday` -> PM, ok ?
[15:15] <LjL> Pooria: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[15:16] <disappearedng> hey how do I use grep so that it shows where the string came from ?
[15:16] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: no, please keep it in here
[15:16] <disappearedng> *matching string came from btw
[15:16] <sebsebseb> Enpires: Grub can't find your partition, that's the problem
[15:16] <LjL> disappearedng: "man grep" will tell you that the "-n" option shows line numbers for matches
[15:16] <G8_Zer0> mshanks, so extract iso first, edit acpi, and re-build iso? Or is it chooseable on boot up ?
[15:16] <Enpires> LjL http://paste.ubuntu.com/142821/
[15:16] <G8_Zer0> ziroday` -> sure..
[15:16] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: on the livecd, there is an "other option" selection, go to there and add acpi=off
[15:16] <mshanks> Choosable on boot up
[15:16] <G8_Zer0> Ok, will reboot. brb 2 mins :)
[15:17] <mshanks> G8_Zer0; exactly as ziroday said :)
[15:17] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: you don't need to rebuild anything
[15:17] <G8_Zer0> my bad ;)
[15:17] <LjL> Enpires: err? do you have your Ubuntu installed on a *Windows* (NTFS) partition?!
[15:17] <disappearedng> LjL oh I was looking for -H btw thx
[15:17] <Enpires> yes with WUBI
[15:17] <eterna1> lol GB on boot options at start
[15:17] <Nasra> sebsebseb: is installed and ready to go, how do I test it with a flavour of linux?
[15:17] <Nasra> thanks
[15:17] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok you could have told me that earlier, and we could have saved time
[15:17] <LjL> Enpires: ah, i see. i don't know anything about how Wubi works, but it's likely entirely different from a normal install
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Enpires: LjL and me would both recommend against Wubi
[15:18] <Enpires> ehm... i didnt know it was important... sorry
[15:18] <kleinric> Pooria, there isnt a mysql package, are u trying to install the server?
[15:18] <sebsebseb> LjL: I know that you know certain things :D
[15:18] <Nasra> sebsebseb: I mean VirtualBox....
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yep ok
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Nasra: got the UBuntu ISO or CD?
[15:18] <LjL> Enpires: well i'm sorry but i don't think i have the slighest idea how to fix GRUB on a Wubi install
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Nasra: wait what are you testing?
[15:19] <LjL> Enpires: the instructions i was about to give you may likely just break it further
[15:19] <Nasra> sebsebseb: nothing ....
[15:19] <Enpires> understeand... however thanks 4 the lost time
[15:19] <sebsebseb> Enpires: no not yet
[15:19] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok i tpyed in 'sudo ifdown eth0' into the terminal and it came back with 'etc/network/intrfaces:14: option with empty value on the next line and then ifdown: couldnt read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces/" on the next line after that
[15:19] <G8_Zer0> Same result with acpi set to off
[15:19] <sebsebseb> Enpires:  how much RAM does your computer have?
[15:19] <Nasra> sebsebseb: just want to get version of another linux   ----> Xandros
[15:19] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: hmm, also try with noapic
[15:19] <Enpires> 3gb
[15:19] <G8_Zer0> both ?
[15:19] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok good
[15:19] <mshanks> Enpires, might be worth asking on the wubi support forums - from what Ljl and sebsebseb have said, sounds like your problem is there, rather than with ubuntu itself
[15:19] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: do other distro's/windows work?
[15:20] <G8_Zer0> or only noapic ?
[15:20] <mshanks> G8_Zer0, try with just noapic
[15:20] <sebsebseb> Enpires: on this so called broken PC you can get into Windows?  oh you can't since wubi
[15:20] <Devcoder> Kesman i tried the cd on an other computer, got the crc error again. Im guessing my cdrom/burner is fucked up.
[15:20] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: try with both, or only with noapic
[15:20] <Enpires> what's the Wubi channel?
[15:20] <kleinric> try sudo apt-get install mysql-   and then press tab until it lists the possible packages, thats what i generally do :P
[15:20] <mshanks> if that doesn't work, try them both (noapic and acpi=off
[15:20] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, haven't tried, but should work-
[15:20] <Devcoder> Kesman how doues it sound to you?
[15:20] <Enpires> nono i cant get into windows
[15:20] <Nasra> sebsebseb: just remember just want to run as live cd mode....
[15:20] <LjL> mshanks: yep, i have no idea where those would be found (and don't see a wubi channel on freenode) though
[15:20] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ewww don't do Xandros
[15:20] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you have a mistake on your interfaces file, you did get a chance to read man interfaces to see a sample interfaces file?
[15:20] <sebsebseb> Enpires: have you got Windows CD?
[15:20] <G8_Zer0> Will try noapic
[15:20] <unr3a1> Does anyone know why k3b wouldn't be able to recognize an external USB DVD/CD burner?
[15:20] <Nasra> sebsebseb: huh?
[15:20] <Enpires> no :\
[15:20] <ziroday`> Enpires: the forums have a wubi section, you might have better luck there
[15:20] <_spm_Draget> Is there a way to list all installed packages withotu dependencies.
[15:21] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: yes but  not all of it
[15:21] <Nasra> sebsebseb: which one?
[15:21] <Devcoder> Kesman you around? :D
[15:21] <LjL> Enpires, sebsebseb: besides, as far as i know, Wubi doesn't use GRUB to start Windows - it just adds an entry to Windows' boot.ini - its own bootloader. so the problem might be there and not in GRUB at all
[15:21] <Enpires> mmm doesnt exists a IRC wubi channel?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> LjL: yeah that sounds  about right
[15:21] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well if you dont read all of it, you'd miss important details
[15:21] <LjL> Enpires: not that i can see
[15:21] <unr3a1> Brasero recognizes the drive, so I dont understand why k3b cannot see it.
[15:21] <Enpires> ok so it's better if i try onwubi forum right?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> Nasra: download something
[15:21] <mshanks> Enpires, have a hunt around on some general support forums if you can't find any wubi-dedicated ones. You won't be the first to have this problem
[15:21] <sebsebseb> Nasra: other distro stuff is kind of off topic here though
[15:21] <Kesman> Devcoder: yes here
[15:22] <Devcoder> Kesman i tried the cd on an other computer, got the crc error again. Im guessing my cdrom/burner is fucked up.
[15:22] <Enpires> okok... thank you very much!!
[15:22] <LjL> Enpires: i would try that, yes - also try asking here again every 10 minutes or so (not more often than that), but be sure to specify you're on wubi
[15:22] <Devcoder> Kesman how doues it sound to you?
[15:22] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> here is a sample interfaces file ... http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[15:22] <Nasra> sebsebseb: I know that.....
[15:22] <ga_bash> _spm_Draget, dpkg -l | less
[15:22] <Enpires> ok! i'll do that ;)
[15:22] <Kesman> Devcoder: possible. If you only had a larger usb-stick around...
[15:22] <sebsebseb> Enpires: I have some ideas, but not the best ideas, but stuff that could work
[15:22] <Devcoder> Kesman and the cdroom might have coused the BSOD to right.
[15:22] <sysdoc> unr3a1, had the same problem with k3b, would cause the usb drive mount to break
[15:22] <Kesman> Devcoder: maybe
[15:22] <Enpires> sebsebseb you'll disconnect soon?
[15:22] <Enpires> *will you
[15:23] <Devcoder> Kesman and when i tried to install debian, it couldnt identify the cdrom. but when i installed debian on that computer before, it worked
[15:23] <NoobGuest> Can I get pointed in the right direction as far as anti-virus? Clam? and If Clam which package!?
[15:23] <micca> hi guys.. i decompressed an install.txt.gz file and when i open it in gedit i get those binary square symbol thingies.. why ? and how do I remove them / get the correct output?
[15:23] <Devcoder> Kesman im gonna try using an other rom. :D
[15:23] <Nasra> sebsebseb:   so any once I have the distro ready........just pop it in the CDROM and thats it ...or do I have to do anything in the Bios Settings/
[15:23] <Nasra> ?
[15:23] <sebsebseb> Enpires: no   and Nasra wants my help with something as well, that  goes off topic in here. so   both of you join my tempory channel  #nasraenpires
[15:23] <micca> Enpires, sounds like obi wan kenobi might help  ya ;p
[15:23] <_spm_Draget> ga_bash: are those packages without the automatically installed dependencies?
[15:23] <_spm_Draget> it looks like much
[15:24] <Nasra> ok
[15:24] <Enpires> :D
[15:24] <micca> ;)
[15:24] <ga_bash> _spm_Draget, i guess there are no standalone packages... there are always those that depend on libraries..
[15:24] <ga_bash> so dependency is always there
[15:24] <micca> hi guys.. i decompressed an install.txt.gz file and when i open it in gedit i get those binary square symbol thingies.. why ? and how do I remove them / get the correct output?
[15:24] <Kesman> Devcoder: do that
[15:24] <sebsebseb> Enpires: join that channel
[15:24] <valerix> salve
[15:24] <sebsebseb> Enpires: plus this is so busy etc
[15:25] <kleinric> Pooria, there is no mysql package, there is, however, mysql-server... this will work: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[15:25]  * micca thinks sebsebseb is gonna perform a virtual private lapdance
[15:25] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, does the same with noapic, acpi, noapic+acpi.  Will try with windows disk now. just to see if it works
[15:25] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i cant see any errors apart from forgetting to put the work netmask in front of the mask, but that shouldnt affect the dhcp card
[15:25] <unr3a1> sysdoc, what did you do to fix it?
[15:25] <hbekel> micca: everything on a single line?
[15:25] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: word*
[15:25] <dcamp25> Need assistance installing java
[15:26] <Kesman> yeah? sudo apt-get install java-jre
[15:26] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: hmph, that usually allows you boot it up, also do a memcheck and check cd for defects
[15:26] <sebsebseb> micca: not quite
[15:26] <micca> hbekel.. nope
[15:26] <dcamp25> did that, no applets run,  can not find class path
[15:26] <micca> hbekel: it seems ot be ok but a lot of those sqaures with 0008 in them between leters
[15:26] <sysdoc> unr3a1, sorry havent fixed it yet, just used Brasero
[15:26] <Kartagis> can ubuntu tell me what the model of my mobo is?
[15:27] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, it does boot up, but after choosing languaghe, alternate boot, etc, and shows ubuntu loading screen, 1-2 mins after it gives me busybox msg and initramsf
[15:27] <micca> (ya sorry sebsebseb, it is customary of me to throw out useless garble inbetween busy on topic discussions ;))
[15:27] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral ->  see those samples so you get an idea how it should be like
[15:27] <micca> and whilst im at it.. does nedit still exist.. do ppl still like it?
[15:27] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: right, which sounds like some seriously incompatible hardware or broken hardware. Personally I'm leaning towards the former
[15:27] <unr3a1> sysdoc, but I am having brasero problems as well.  brasero is unable to close discs
[15:27] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: and usually (hopefully) a boot option fixes that
[15:28] <unr3a1> sysdoc, which is why I am trying to use k3b.  I used it yesterday no problem, but now today, it says it can't find the cd/dvd drive
[15:28] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i just had a look at it and changed it and now when i type sudo ifdown eth0 i get ifown: interface eth 0 not configured
[15:28] <dcamp25> After installing sun-java-6  i get load class errors
[15:28] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> post your interfaces file again please
[15:28] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, boot option, like apic, noapic, etc? Cuz trying windows now, just to see if it installs
[15:28] <micca> hbekel: did you have somethign in mind or?
[15:28] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: yep
[15:28] <eterna1> Dcamp is java-6  using your own java applet or other sites?
[15:28] <n8tuser> dcamp25 -> what errors ?
[15:29] <dcamp25> other sites
[15:29] <micca> hi guys.. i decompressed an install.txt.gz file and when i open it in gedit i get those binary square symbol thingies.. why ? and how do I remove them / get the correct output?
[15:29] <sysdoc> unr3a1, start by looking at thesae solutions. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/25380
[15:29] <mshanks> micca, removing them will remove the content of the file. sounds like some thing forked on the decompression.
[15:29] <kitche> micca: use gunzip
[15:29] <mshanks> likely, you did it you :p
[15:29] <magnetron> micca→ sounds like you didn't really decompress the file
[15:29] <dcamp25> the errors vary, but always load fail and some class object,  even on the java test page
[15:29] <macman_> anyone know a good ebook for linux command line
[15:30] <micca> mshanks kitche  i used gzip -d file.gz
[15:30] <ziroday`> !terminal | macman_
[15:30] <micca> was all i could remember
[15:30] <quibbler> !harddrive
[15:30] <eterna1> usually java class errors are to do with the applet you are loading not your source file of java,
[15:30] <n8tuser> dcamp25 -> your CLASSPATH okay? are you pointing at the correct java?
[15:30] <micca> but the original files are now gone
[15:30] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142834/
[15:30] <dcamp25> I only have one installed.  I have tried to set classpath.  But I am 6 days old in ubuntu
[15:30] <micca> great , so now I have to reinstall ircd???? :(
[15:31] <Rytmis> bwuh?
[15:31] <micca> welcome back Rytmis
[15:31]  * micca goes and cries in a dark corner sigh
[15:31] <ziroday`> micca: why not just create a channel on an existing network
[15:32] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: do i have to reboot when i change them settings?
[15:32] <Irreducibilis> awww
[15:32] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you just do a  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:32] <micca> ziroday, i was through this before... because later I will port it to a standalone server system at an university
[15:32] <micca> and I want to run the set up here and test security etc etc
[15:32] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> btw, you have figured out which nic is which?
[15:32] <mshanks> micca; I told you it wasn't going to be easy :p
[15:33] <micca> i still am gutted that the gz files disappered though and weren decompressed
[15:33] <micca> LOL mshanks , this is just the readme files :P:P
[15:33] <Soyo> !nvidia
[15:33] <mshanks> It's a good way of stopping people who aren't ready for it yet getting started haha :p
[15:33] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: no thats what iw as trying to do when it was coming up with the errors
[15:33] <micca> well i already have found some other alternatives, but I wish to try out the ircd or hybridserver
[15:33] <micca> haha mshanks.. have faith!!! :D
[15:33] <septox_> hi ,
[15:34] <eterna1> !java
[15:34] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, About the machine, it's a former Pre-assambled machine (Parckard Bell), it ran windowsXP, I have a option in the bios about S.M.A.R.T options on IDE drive. Can this affect the problem?
[15:34] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> first thing i guess is figure out which is which, then well work from there..
[15:34] <septox_> it here a way to dwonlaod a virtualbox machine with ubuntu ?
[15:34] <micca> but its so crap as my .gz files are gone.. and now what.. can i download the docs only or :/
[15:34] <hbekel> micca: because gzip unzips in place. what does 'file install.txt' tell you?
[15:34] <ziroday> G8_Zer0: I doubt it, but go ahead
[15:34] <kitche> septox_: you mean a vm with ubuntu already preloaded?
[15:35] <fenn_> anyone running Jaunty?
[15:35] <mib_e205oh19> hi i have a wifi problem can anyone help me please
[15:35] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, ok :|
[15:35] <micca> hbekel: well it tells me partial paragraphs due to the squares :/
[15:35] <exon> need some help.... ii lost my menu on top op deskktopscreen of xubuntu  how can i make it visiable
[15:35] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i think doing that restart (which is prolly why i had probs in the first place) has just let me figure it out.....it was doing loads of DISCOVER's on eth0 and was gettign no where until i moved the ethernet cable to the next one, then it found it...so now i need to swap them over lol
[15:35] <septox_> kitche: yes
[15:35] <exon> darn keybord
[15:35] <hbekel> micca: you don't listen
[15:35] <ziroday> fenn_: the folks in #ubuntu+1 are
[15:35] <micca> exon:make a new one of paper and glue it on the top of the monitor (kidding)
[15:36] <kitche> septox_: don't think there is one out there you probably would need to do a google search or something along those lines
[15:36] <exon> LOL
[15:36] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: that restart commmand was what iw as missing all along lol now i need to swap them over
[15:36] <micca> hbekel: I do.. but I already had gzipped them and no longer have th eoriginals.. and now i only get partial information due to the binary squares showing up
[15:36] <exon> any help?
[15:36] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, will go for Ultimate boot cd, test the hardware and then try again.
[15:36] <hbekel> micca: run the 'file'
[15:36] <hbekel> command
[15:36] <micca> ok
[15:36] <ziroday> G8_Zer0: good idea
[15:36] <artis> guys, i have to give remote assistance to a newbie (an old person, not completely computer-literate) running the latest stable ubuntu. he read me the error message over the phone. when the computer starts, it gives an error message connected with Gnome Settings Daemon not starting. the problem closely resembles this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-577946.html
[15:36] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well you are a paid tech doing this, am not..so hopefully you'll share the know how you learn from us :)
[15:37] <fenn_> ziroday: thanx
[15:37] <micca> hbekel couldnt do ./ but with sh just came a run error (its a .txt file)
[15:38] <ziroday> artis: ouch, you might want to take a look at http://code.google.com/p/gitso/ to help you out
[15:38] <kitche> micca: no he means file <file>
[15:38] <kitche> micca: file is a command it tells you what type of file the file you have is
[15:38] <artis> the error message, as it was transcribed to me over the phone says: "The remote application did not send a reply, the * security policy blocked the reply" Gnome Settings Daemon. it's very intensive on the hdd and cpu, the computer is overtaken by some task. log-in takes an hour or more.
[15:38] <ciphergoth> I'm sitting next to a laptop that I can't get to go online because I can't see the network icon in the notification area
[15:39] <ziroday> ciphergoth: is nm-applet running?
[15:39] <artis> how should i approach it?
[15:39] <ciphergoth> it's running Intrepid.  When me or Jess are logged in, we see the icon and we can get online, but Libby is logged in and she can't see it
[15:39] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok i have just tried to swap them over and  it has failed to being up eth1....didnt think it would be as easy as swapping the numbers round on the text
[15:39] <burun0> hello, how can i update via apt-cdrom my ubuntudapper to intrepid ? i trying apt-cdrom add in my iso file, and it fails...
[15:39] <micca> ah ok so sorry.. I havent beeno n linux for quite a while.. thank you kitche (sorry hbekel)
[15:39] <ciphergoth> zirroday: another user is running it
[15:39] <ziroday> ciphergoth: okay, is nm-applet running?
[15:39] <artis> it started to happen after routine automatic updates (sometime at the start of this week)
[15:39] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well, you have it figured out which is which?
[15:39] <_404> would like some recommendations for webbrowsers that would work well on a system with limited resources. I've tried Links 2 and Dillo. Any others?
[15:39] <ziroday> ciphergoth: ah right, now I understand
[15:39] <micca> hbekel: it says : INSTALL.txt: ASCII English text, with overstriking
[15:39] <ziroday> ciphergoth: what version of ubuntu?
[15:39] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i thought i did
[15:39] <ciphergoth> Intrepid
[15:40] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: it seemed the added pci card was eth0 but now im not so sure
[15:40] <exon> any help how do i get menu visable again in left corner, also programm's dont show up anymore in menu at bottom
[15:40] <Jeruvy> _404: lynx
[15:40] <sebsebseb> _404: dillo
[15:40] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well stick with one nic  just the one going to your router ,, is it getting an ip address? can you get to the internet?
[15:40] <micca> exon: tbh, why dont you use gnome or kde?
[15:40] <ciphergoth> ziroday: does the other user need to log out altogether, or can we run two instances of nm-applet?
[15:40] <sebsebseb> _404: altough browsers such as Firefox should be alright to
[15:40] <exon> xubuntu
[15:40] <artis> guys, i have to give remote assistance to a newbie (an old person, not completely computer-literate) running the latest stable ubuntu. he read me the error message over the phone. when the computer starts, it gives an error message connected with Gnome Settings Daemon not starting. the problem closely resembles this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-577946.html ; it started to happen after routine automatic updates (sometime at the start o
[15:40] <exon> for old pc
[15:41] <ziroday> ciphergoth: you should be able to use two together, but not sure
[15:41] <ciphergoth> ziroday: it doesn't like it
[15:41] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you switch those cables and possibly modify your interfaces file accordingly
[15:41] <sebsebseb> artis: are you doing VNC over SSH?  or  freenx.
[15:41] <micca> gnome is not demanding really if you keep it basic exon
[15:41] <_404> sebsebseb, firefox is a bit too much. pages with alot of scripts like gmail real slow it up. looking for something right in between.
[15:41] <sebsebseb> artis: VNC on it's own not secure over Internet
[15:41] <ciphergoth> it says it couldn't acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings as it is already takne
[15:41] <exon> i just let  my wife work on it 1 hour and look what happend
[15:41] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: they are both getting connection which is impossible!?
[15:41] <micca> lol
[15:41] <sebsebseb> !browsers |  _404
[15:41] <artis> sebsebseb, i can't know the IP address, because the user is behind dynamic DHCP. he has to log-in to give me the address.
[15:42] <ziroday> ciphergoth: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/284596
[15:42] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you may be reading what is in cache, always do that /etc/init.d/networking restart to make sure
[15:42] <Nasra> !ext4
[15:42] <sebsebseb> _404: give galeon and epiphany-browser a try
[15:42] <Nasra> !xt4
[15:42] <exon> the xubuntu is she just messed it up
[15:42] <artis> sebsebseb, would you suggest booting as single-user and deleting %{HOME}/.gnome* ?
[15:42] <Nasra> !ext3
[15:42] <ziroday> ciphergoth: its a confirmed bug and is being worked on
[15:42] <sebsebseb> artis: uh what? I thought you just wanted to remote connect someone
[15:42] <exitist> artis: www.letmein.com seems like it is what you want
[15:42] <mib_e205oh19> hi, can someone help with my wireless problem ?
[15:43] <_404> sebsebseb, thanks, I will
[15:43] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[15:43] <artis> sebsebseb, mind you that this has to be done remotely by instructing the said person over the telephone. there's no other option, unfortunately.
[15:43] <micca> exon: i would from me old experiences perhaps consider gnome or kde tbh
[15:43] <sebsebseb> !vnc | artis
[15:43] <micca> hbekel: it says : INSTALL.txt: ASCII English text, with overstriking
[15:43] <sebsebseb> artis: I have got people that weren't that good at computers,   set up with VNC over SSH :)  and explained over  IM
[15:43] <jobine> puis-je avoir de l,aide en français pour problème ''out of scan range''
[15:43] <micca> kitche, says english text file with overstrike
[15:44] <artis> sebsebseb, no the problem is connected with the Gnome Settings Daemon not starting, as i stated previously. i think you're confusing me with someone else. i'm perfectly aware of the VPN option.
[15:44] <ziroday> ciphergoth: however I can understand its a pain, you might want to look at the other bugs (particularly the gnome one) for possible workarounds
[15:44] <sebsebseb> artis: they do their bit, I do my bit, and then I can connect securely
[15:44] <artis> sebsebseb, as i stated, VPN or any other remote connection is not available at the time, because we have no way to know the IP address, which is not given until DHCP release.
[15:44] <ciphergoth> ziroday: it worked - thanks!
[15:44] <sebsebseb> artis: nah not confusing you at all,  just I didn't bother going on your link,  ok nevermind I guess
[15:44] <mib_e205oh19> the documention page does not help me with this wireless problem
[15:44] <ziroday> ciphergoth: what worked?
[15:44] <sebsebseb> artis: I don't do VPN
[15:44] <ciphergoth> ziroday: logging out both users then logging back in agian
[15:44] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok well i wanted the WAN on the onboard card....apparently the onboard card didnt like being called eth1 lol so i changed it to eth2 and it works
[15:44] <sebsebseb> artis: VNC  over SSH is the other secure way to do things
[15:44] <ziroday> ciphergoth: right
[15:44] <Lou_> Is there susposed to be a file named libc.so.6 ?
[15:45] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: prollt cause i have 3 cards in there to begin with
[15:45] <ziroday> Lou_: where?
[15:45] <artis> sebsebseb, i'm an openbsd user on daily basis. i know how to debug the systems etc.&etc. in this case i have to instruct the person remotely over the telephone, because i cannnot connect to the system myself.
[15:45] <micca> alright: is there a way to redownload onnly the docs part of a package or not?
[15:46] <sebsebseb> artis: well you can give them a SSH account, get them to install x11vnc.   give them two commands.  and yeah
[15:46] <artis> the only information i have gathered is the precise error message, hdd and cpu activity, sebsebseb
[15:46] <Lou_> ziroday, anywhere on the harddrive.
[15:46] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: now the only worrying thing is that the gigabit card which is set at a private address is connecting to the net, which it really shoudlnt should it, with no gateway set or anything lol
[15:46] <ziroday> Lou_: I don't have that file, but it doesn't mean anything. What are you trying todo?
[15:46] <wers> what processors are compatible with 64bit ubuntu?
[15:46] <micca> LOL that took one sec
[15:46] <artis> ! vpn
[15:46] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> are you sure? well do what ever it takes to get it going, just try to keep it straight
[15:47] <sebsebseb> artis: VNC over SSH I can help a little bit with, but VPN no not at all
[15:47] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> another way to figure out is via   sudo lshw -C network
[15:47] <micca> great.. i dont even have gzunzip
[15:47] <ziroday> wers: most, what processor are you thinking of buying/do you have?
[15:47] <Jimi_Neutral> n8thuser: my bad, it must have justr been the cached ubuntu/google start page
[15:47] <artis> sebsebseb, i need no help with openSSH, i'm proficient with it. what i want to know is the *reason* behind Gnome Settings Daemon failing after an automated and routine software update sometime earlier this week.
[15:48] <wers> ziroday, i'm sure with mine. i have a core 2 duo. how about core duos (without the "2")?
[15:48] <sebsebseb> artis: ok I can't help you
[15:48] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: its all working! ty so much for your help mate....im halfway there.....now i just gotta get clonezilla working! :s
[15:48] <simion314> hi i need a toool to convert a document into a read only document, i want that the viewers to be unable to copy the text, convert my text into images maybe, any ideea?
[15:48] <ziroday> wers: they should be 64bit as well, best thing to do is google the model number and 64bit for futher information
[15:48] <artis> sebsebseb, the precise error message, if it helps you at all, is "
[15:48] <wers> thanks ziroday :)
[15:48] <artis> There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon."
[15:48] <ziroday> simion314: you mean turn it into a gpg signed pdf?
[15:49] <micca> simion.. making it an image or pdf or so ye.. pdf though dpeends on the client the users use.. in any way.. they can always make a print screen of the image and scan text etc etc
[15:49] <sebsebseb> artis: I don't know  enough about that stuff,  wait for someone else
[15:49] <ziroday> simion314: or a gpg signed email
[15:49] <artis> sebsebseb, ok
[15:49] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you're welcome, usually i only nudge to get them in the right directions
[15:49] <mshanks> artis, I'm by no means an expert, but if they can boot without using Gnome, so into a console, could the daemon be started from there, or re-installed perhaps?
[15:49] <sebsebseb> artis: or maybe even ask in #linux since your issue is not exaclty distro specific?
[15:49] <Lou_> ziroday, I want to reinstall libc.so.6.  What package would it be in?
[15:50] <ziroday> Lou_: where is that file?
[15:50] <artis> mshanks, yes that could be done, although we have to keep in mind that i would have to dictate the precise prosedure over the phone. so, it is best if i can keep it simple & short.
[15:50] <jobine> aide en français pour ''out of scan range''
[15:50] <hbekel> micca: try 'cat install.txt | col -b > install.txt2'
[15:50] <will__> how do I mount a filesystem manually as root, but still enabling regular users to read/write to that filesystem
[15:51] <mshanks> I see. Perhaps a shorter/easier way would be to have them install ssh (assuming it's not already?), you connect and do it through console?
[15:51] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: Now i dont mind that, if i was at home and it was cause i want to learn it in my own time, but this was my boss hammering me to get it down when he knows i dont even know linux
[15:51] <micca> thanks hbekel: btw. gunzip -d did the same thing to the file
[15:51] <simion314> ziroday: i seen that pdf is not secure, and to scan the text on my language with be hard because the software uses english dictionary and romanian alphabet has more letters
[15:51] <quibbler> !fr | jobine
[15:51] <hbekel> micca: gunzip unzips IN PLACE
[15:51] <Lou_> ziroday, /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[15:51] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: so ty again for the indepth help :)
[15:51] <ziroday> simion314: well you can always export your file as a postscript file
[15:51] <artis> mshanks, i don't think that re-installing the daemon would be of any help. i think there's no problem with it. it is likely that some configuration file has been changed to stop the Gnome Settings Daemon from properly starting.
[15:51] <ziroday> Lou_: install apt-file, then do apt-file /path/to/libc.so.6
[15:52] <jobine> merci
[15:52] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> get your boss some doughnuts  and coffee -- he'll be quiet for a while.. lol
[15:52] <micca> ok hbekel: someoen said to use it instead of gzip.. anyway... I get a permission denied when i do the command with sudo in front of it
[15:52] <Lou_> ziroday, thanks!
[15:53] <simion314> ziroday: so postcript saves the document as images? not as text?
[15:53] <ziroday> simion314: I believe so
[15:53] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: hahah, i would if my place of work was not in the middle of an industrial estate in the middle of no where with all the shope 40 mins walk away there an back! lol
[15:54] <bitwiser> anyone know a clever way to unrar multiple 'sets' of rar files.. unrar e *.rar doesn't work
[15:54] <micca> can I pm you hbekel?
[15:54] <hbekel> micca: if you have to
[15:54] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> be on the look out of the canteen truck, and get your boss all the sweets you can and fed him that..lol
[15:54] <apelgate> hello
[15:54] <apelgate> how do I see what version of a specific package is installed?
[15:55] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: heheh.....while i got u for a minute tho, (dont worry this is nothign major) someone said to me yesterday to make 3 partitions for ubuntu....this is for my own personal use cause i wanna get away from windows....i cant remeber what the reaosn was tho for 3 partitions...any idea whay 3?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> Jimi_Neutral: /    /home and swap
[15:55] <mrwes> Jimi_Neutral: One for / (root) /home and /swap
[15:55] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> minimum   ..per sebsebseb
[15:55] <bitwiser> for i in *.rar; do unrar e $i; done .. works ;)
[15:56] <Jimi_Neutral> ah i see it is a well known thing lol....can someone give me a linky for a show you how
[15:56] <sebsebseb> n8tuser: what?
[15:56] <sebsebseb> Jimi_Neutral: you can do it via commands or graphicalley
[15:56] <sebsebseb> Jimi_Neutral: graphically on live cd would be easier
[15:56] <n8tuser> sebsebseb -> your recommendation is good for Jimi_Neutral
[15:57] <Ropechoborra> How can i configure my microphone ?
[15:57] <mrwes> Jimi_Neutral: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning
[15:57] <sebsebseb> Jimi_Neutral: I   start setting stuff up in the partition editior,  on the LIve CD, then finnish it off in manual install
[15:57] <Jimi_Neutral> sebsebseb: ok i can do that, i have luive running at the mo on my other box cause i just had to partition
[15:57]  * Doonz is having a blank moment. whats the command to pull up the os version in ssh
[15:57] <Jimi_Neutral> ty ty and ty :)
[15:57] <mrwes> uname -r
[15:57] <artis> guys, this error has not been fixed in almost three years: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-577946.html it's unbelievable that users still need to be seeking for solutions where no concrete one exists. for heaven's sake - in their mind, they run a stable operating system.
[15:57] <Doonz> thank you
[15:58] <quibbler> apelgate-> dpkg -l | grep name_of_package
[15:58] <Doonz> how can i see what flavor of linux a server is running
[15:58] <artis> Doonz, uname -a
[15:58] <Doonz> Linux K008 <IP_ADDRESS> #1 SMP Sun Mar 29 17:47:47 CEST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux <-- wth version of linux is this
[15:58] <mrwes> ahh..yah -r is just the kernel, right?
[15:58] <Doonz> yeah
[15:59] <Doonz> i was trying -A
[15:59] <mrwes> duh
[15:59] <Doonz> and then -R
[15:59] <mrwes> heh
[15:59] <exitist> $ uname -r   == 2.6.22-14-generic
[15:59] <G8_Zer0> Is there anyway to test if my hardware is compatible to Ubuntu? Tried installing, several discs, etc, doing hardware test now, but maybe Ubuntu wont accept på maibboard, chipset or something? Is there any bootable iso which can test hardware for ubuntu?
[15:59] <exitist> dam this is old
[16:00] <G8_Zer0> Getting in console, when tyrying to install.. ends out with cosole mode, Busybox version xxxx... (initramfs)...
[16:00] <quibbler> G8_Zer0-> look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HardwareSupport
[16:00] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: try the Live CD with your hardware?
[16:00] <Doonz> Linux K008 <IP_ADDRESS> #1 SMP Sun Mar 29 17:47:47 CEST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux <-- wth version of linux is this
[16:00] <wers> will i be able to install 32 bit apps on 64 bit ubuntu?
[16:00] <DJones> Doonz: If you want the release name, you could use "lsb_release -a"
[16:00] <quibbler> wers-> yes
[16:00] <sebsebseb> wers: depends
[16:01] <DJones> Doonz: That'll tell you hardy/intrepid etc
[16:01] <Doonz> ok interesting
[16:01] <wers> sebsebseb, depends on?
[16:01] <Doonz> they installed ubuntu with a root user
[16:01] <bitwiser> wers: yes, but it's not trivial
[16:01] <Doonz> :/
[16:01] <DJones> logout
[16:01] <G8_Zer0> quibbler, This is a former PackardBell Desktop, Packard Bell ain't on the list, so this must be the reason I can't make it install? :(
[16:01] <bitwiser> wers: you have to create a chroot
[16:01] <sebsebseb> wers: well you might get the, your installing on the wrong architecture message
[16:02] <wers> ooh
[16:02] <quibbler> G8_Zer0-> could be
[16:02] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: how to install 32bit apps on 64bit?
[16:02] <wers> sebsebseb, will i have problems with flash and other
[16:02] <G8_Zer0> Buhu :(
[16:02] <bitwiser> sebsebseb: create a chroot
[16:02] <wers> commercial apps?
[16:02] <Jimi_Neutral> ok i have 78GiB left as an empty partition and that needs to be split into root home and swap...so how much should i give to each
[16:02] <sebsebseb> !chroot
[16:02] <sebsebseb> wers: no and there's a very good 64bit Flash from Adobe
[16:03] <bitwiser> wtf
[16:03] <cip> ragazzi ho provato la live di 9.04 e non mi dava problemi con la stamapante
[16:03] <bitwiser> wers
[16:03] <bitwiser> no there isnt
[16:03] <cip> posso sistemare la 8.1
[16:03] <bitwiser> I mean
[16:03] <bitwiser> sebsebseb, the alpha flash player for amd64 is NOT good
[16:03] <sebsebseb> !fr
[16:03] <bitwiser> it's horrible
[16:03] <wers> what possible problems will i face with 64 bit?
[16:03] <LjL> !it | cip
[16:03] <G8_Zer0> quibbler, What I can see from bios, it's a AMD Ahtlon 2400, 1 gb ddr400. Did think the mainboard could do that much, do to OS to choose :(
[16:03] <bitwiser> wers: did you already buy the hardware ?
[16:03] <LjL> sebsebseb: if you have no idea what language someone is speaking, don't guess... *rolleyes*
[16:03] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: well Flash is horrible full stop!
[16:04] <wers> bitwiser, i already have a core2duo but i've been running 32bit ubuntu on it since i bought it
[16:04] <quibbler> G8_Zer0-> check the board in that url i sent you.
[16:04] <Dreamglider> Jimi_Neutral: swap should be ram x 1.5 to 2
[16:04] <tschaub> I'm stuck in low-graphics mode after an upgrade to 8.10.  Anybody have any pointers on fixing an xorg.conf?
[16:04] <bitwiser> wers: keep 32bit.. it's more user friendly ... you using it as a desktop ?
[16:04] <G8_Zer0> ok
[16:04] <spapawan> this is pawan saxena
[16:04] <spapawan> from india
[16:04] <sebsebseb> tschaub: not as such, and did you install the graphics card driver?
[16:04] <spapawan> hi
[16:04] <spapawan> friend
[16:05] <sebsebseb> LjL: ok
[16:05] <wers> bitwiser, yep. laptop for typical personal use
[16:05]  * micca gets a cod and slaps the chair
[16:05] <quibbler> !welcome | spapa
[16:05] <bitwiser> wers: I use a 64bit box... I have to use VirutalBox to view flash websites, and there are problems with java as well
[16:05] <spapawan> we do international business.  our website address www.spaindia.net  u r welcome to chat with private for business talks
[16:05] <bitwiser> wers: no reason to install 64bit... the only difference is 64 allows more ram
[16:05] <orifice_work> flash doesn't have a 64bit binary ?
[16:05] <wers> bitwiser, aw. thanks for pointing that out. i dont want to experience those
[16:06] <Cycom> Personally, I feel the only reason to use 64-bit is if you have large memory requirements (4gb+)
[16:06] <Cycom> bitwiser: I am able to use flash in 64-bit... java too...
[16:06] <sebsebseb> wers: bitwise is saying some stuff that isn't quite true
[16:06] <zamba> i want to use rdiff-backup between ubuntu dapper and debian lenny.. rdiff-backup on lenny is 1.2.5 and on dapper is 1.1.5.. how can i get a newer version of rdiff-backup on the dapper box?
[16:06] <tschaub> sebsebseb: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers shows that the recommended NVIDIA driver is in use
[16:06] <sebsebseb> wers: there is 64bit Flash
[16:06] <bitwiser> sebseb: I run a 64bit box
[16:06] <wers> sebsebseb, hmm. okay. so would you recommend 64bit for me?
[16:06] <Jimi_Neutral> Dreamglider: ok how does it become swap, do i just label it that?#
[16:06] <bitwiser> do you ?
[16:06] <sebsebseb> wers: Java  I think there might even be a 64bit plugin now.  you can run 32bit  stuff anyway
[16:06] <Cycom> wers: do you have 4gb of ram?
[16:06] <quibbler> orifice_work-> yes: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.htm
[16:06] <Cycom> wers: or more than that?
[16:06] <wers> Cycom, just 1gb
[16:06] <Cycom> wers: then no, 64-bit is a waste.
[16:06] <Dreamglider> Jimi_Neutral: do you use Gparted ?
[16:06] <exitist> updates suck balls
[16:06] <sebsebseb> wers: I would recommend 32bit if you got 1GB
[16:07] <orifice_work> so why would you use a vbox to view flash websites ?
[16:07] <bitwiser> sebseb: just because there is a plugin doesnt mean it works... the flash plugin crashes firefox/everything else.. it's compeltely useless
[16:07] <orifice_work> (according to bitwiser)
[16:07] <hypucker> !ohmy | exitist
[16:07] <Cycom> wers: 64-bit is primarily useful if you have 4gb or more of memory. otherwise, stick to 32 bit.
[16:07] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: depends, and yes I have had my own issues with that on 32bit
[16:07] <_VIM_> bah hypucker you beat me to it ;P
[16:07] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: also there's Gnash and Swfdec as alternatives
[16:07] <Lint01> can I use XFCE desktop in Ubuntu?
[16:07] <sebsebseb> Lint01: yes
[16:07] <Promille> Hey guys. Does anyone know of any mp3 splitters? If it could read from .cue files too, it would be awesome. Thanks in advance
[16:07] <waylandbill> hello. I set my network manager to manual configuration and now I have no choice to select dhcp wireless network. I know there is a file to edit but can't recall which one. Anyone know?
[16:07] <Cycom> Lint01: there's a whole ubuntu distro for that too :) Xubuntu.
[16:07] <Dreamglider> Lint01: yea
[16:07] <bitwiser> sebseb: there is no working flash player for amd64, gnash and swfdec don't work on commerical/professional/complicated sites
[16:07] <sebsebseb> Lint01: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:08] <wers> 32 bit, then :) wont experiment with that. hehe
[16:08] <Jimi_Neutral> Dreamglider: Yes i do
[16:08] <bitwiser> wers: I've spent unreal amounts of time trying to get flash/java working right.. most of the time firefox just crashes (with the official flash plugin from adobe)
[16:08] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: ok well go an whine at Youtube, and  other websites that use Flash for video, and tell them to use a open format instead, that is a real vidoe format, OGG etc
[16:09] <Lint01> has it a keyboard switcher? I've tried some distros, not one had it, and inet instructions are quite outdated.
[16:09] <Promille> Hey guys. Does anyone know of any mp3 splitters? If it could read from .cue files too, it would be awesome. Thanks in advance
[16:09] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: indeed though Flash is pretty much pointless, except for this Flash video stupidity
[16:09] <bitwiser> sebseb: not my problem, I use vbox with an xp machine, so I can watch youtube/fox.com(house m.d)/etc with no issues
[16:09] <wers> bitfish, aw. that's too impractical. i dont think the advantages of installing 64bit would be worth it then
[16:09] <silner> Is there an easy way to read/edit the aspell custom dictionary?
[16:10] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: you can run the 32bit apps
[16:10] <wers> i meant, bitwiser
[16:10] <bitwiser> wers: for me it is, I have over 4GB ram
[16:10] <wers> sebsebseb, how easy is it to install 32bit apps?
[16:10] <bitwiser> sebseb: it's a can of worms.. why mess with it
[16:10] <sebsebseb> wers: you got 1GB RAM like me, so just do the 32bit version
[16:11] <wers> okay. got it
[16:11] <sebsebseb> wers: by the way
[16:11] <nyaa> I seem to have somehow gotten flash working in 64 bit ages ago
[16:11] <nyaa> but now I don't know how I did it =/l
[16:11] <sebsebseb> wers: 9.04 with optional Ext4 supopurt is just around the corner in a few weeks
[16:11] <bitwiser> wers: the only difference beyond applicatoins optimized for 64, is the 4gb ram limit
[16:11] <sebsebseb> wers: so if you install 8.10 now,  well
[16:11] <Scavenger09> Can anyone help me with an issue I'm having with Clonezilla? User error on my part I think
[16:11] <wers> sebsebseb, and what does it have to do with 64bit?
[16:11] <sebsebseb> wers: nothing, and you going way off topic
[16:12] <wers> okay. i have intrepid now. i'll install jaunty when it's out and i've been planning to format my root as ext4
[16:13] <sebsebseb> wers: yeah that's what I was getitng at basically,   at the moment some data loss issue or whatever with Ext4
[16:13] <sebsebseb> wers: ,but yeah clean install for Ext4
[16:13] <sebsebseb> wers: or limited functionality after doing something to Ext3
[16:14] <nyaa> whats this problem with ext4? =(
[16:14] <wers> sebsebseb, there's data loss on ext4?
[16:14] <wers> you mean, it's buggy?
[16:14] <Scavenger09> /join #clonezilla
[16:14] <Scavenger09> oops, sorry
[16:14] <sebsebseb> wers: depends, but  there has been a dataloss issue.  I am waiting for 9.04  final before I get rid of this beta, and put 9.04 on  with Ext4.  I mean I am waiting for good reviews for Ext4
[16:15] <sebsebseb> wers: yes running it on Ext3, anyway this is offtopic here, but not in #ubuntu+1  ,but I think I still can't join there again
[16:16] <wers> why cant you, sebsebseb ?
[16:16] <sebsebseb> wers: ,because I got banned, and not meant to talk about that here either
[16:16] <wers> hahaha. ok
[16:16] <Scavenger09> sebseb: are you fluent with clonezilla?
[16:17] <justina> jo
[16:17] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: no never used it
[16:17] <Scavenger09> okayk
[16:17] <sebsebseb> justina: hi
[16:17] <justina> hi
[16:17] <Scavenger09> What do you use to clone your system?
[16:17] <partymola> hello
[16:17] <sebsebseb> !backup
[16:17] <micca> hehe mshanks I do see what you mean.. but the irc conf is no larger than a mysql server tbh.. and albeit more than half a decade ago.. i did configure several mysql and apache servers etc
[16:17] <sebsebseb> !cloning
[16:18] <torkel_> I've just installed Ubuntu 9.04 beta on an older Macbook (version 1.1) and are getting some performance issues using Intel GMA :/ Compiz is lagging like hell (it was fine in 8.10 on the same computer), turning on the uxa acceleration the performance is a bit better than in 8.10, but it's to unstable to use. Is there some way to get back the performance I had in 8.10 with the same stability? Now without uxa enabled I can't even watch youtube
[16:18] <Scavenger09> Do you know if any / all of them overwrite the mbr when they restore an ntfs partition? I restored using clonezilla and it left a virus on the system, which I am assuming was in the mbr?
[16:18] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: see above
[16:18] <partymola> hello, is there some Ubuntu IRC channel for bugs & troubleshooting them. I have found out a bug that doesn't allow me boot 9.04 beta in my laptop.
[16:18] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: Windows goes over the MBR when you install that
[16:19] <Picipod> !jaunty | torkel_
[16:19] <sebsebseb> partymola: #ubuntu-bugs
[16:19] <oCean_> torkel_: all Jaunty issues/discsussions go in channel #ubuntu+1 please
[16:19] <partymola> thanks, sebsebseb
[16:19] <Scavenger09> Hmmm, I was hoping that you would not say that... It is baffling how the virus survived even after I installed from the image
[16:19] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: why are you running Wndows?
[16:20] <sebsebseb> partymola: np
[16:20] <Scavenger09> I use it for some recording apps at home
[16:20] <zamba> i want to install a newer version of rdiff-backup for ubuntu dapper..
[16:20] <Scavenger09> XP
[16:20] <zamba> how can i do that?
[16:20] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: if your computer has enough RAM, you can run a XP virtual machine inside Ubuntu for that
[16:20] <Scavenger09> I do have a VM for XP, but it will not run my recording gear - something with the drivers
[16:20] <Scavenger09> so I'm stuck with an install of XP
[16:20] <sebsebseb> zamba: Dapper is nearly no longer suppourted
[16:21] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: I expect you can get that sorted out in #vbox
[16:21] <Lint01> sebsebseb: all people who run Windows, do it for it's better hardware compatibility
[16:21] <sebsebseb> Lint01: wrong, most do it, because of the software it runs
[16:21] <Lint01> so vm usually is not tht choice
[16:21] <oCean_> sebsebseb: dapper has 5 years of support, not?
[16:21] <Scavenger09> I have been meaning to  check out vb
[16:21] <Scavenger09> vbox
[16:21] <Scavenger09> Better support than VM?
[16:21] <Cycom> Lint01: unless you're me.  I run ubuntu because Vista didn't have sound drivers that worked with my mobo's intel audio :)
[16:22] <sebsebseb> oCean_: 3 years suppourt on desktop 5 on server
[16:22] <Scavenger09> I hate Vista
[16:22] <Scavenger09> !
[16:22] <Picipod> sebsebseb, zamba: 6.06 is supported until 2011 on the server.
[16:22] <Picipod> !ot | Scavenger09
[16:22] <MacMoose> Has anyone here happened to use a WordPress  blog before?
[16:22] <oCean_> sebsebseb: right, 5 yr for *server*
[16:22] <Scavenger09> Umm, Picipod - I was just responding to a Vista comment, sorry
[16:23] <Picipod> MacMoose: Wordpress support can be found in #wordpress
[16:23] <sebsebseb> zamba: are you running 6.06 on a desktop or server?
[16:23] <tschaub> sebsebseb: any pointers on fixing nvidia driver issues (if that's what it is)?  I added details to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/278055
[16:23] <sebsebseb> tschaub: no
[16:23] <pluscool> hello all! I quick Q: Is something wrong with mic sound in 8.10? I cant get a understandable sound in skype.
[16:23]  * tschaub moves on to sound issues
[16:23] <sebsebseb> tschaub: altough the obviosu questiosn
[16:23] <Dreamglider> can i isntall Ubuntu (or any other linux distro) on a extended partition ?
[16:23] <sebsebseb> tschaub: how old is your card?
[16:24] <sebsebseb> tschaub: which verson of Ubuntu?
[16:24] <sebsebseb> !partitining
[16:24] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: yes
[16:24] <tschaub> sebsebseb: machine is 1.5 yrs old, this is an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[16:24] <sebsebseb> tschaub: well maybe you should have stuck with 8.04
[16:25] <sebsebseb> tschaub: 8.10 and 8.04 have completly differnet versions of xorg
[16:25] <G8_Zer0> zirokay... there ?
[16:25] <jms32> wine is opened programm. But text encoding is incorrect. How i can fix t?
[16:25] <sebsebseb> jms32: #winehq
[16:25] <tschaub> sebsebseb: good to know - obviously not something I was aware of (or understand the implications of)
[16:26] <sebsebseb> tschaub: basically certain cards won't work anymore at all with 8.10's xorg, or your going to have issues with them, even though they worked in 8.04's xorg
[16:26] <sebsebseb> !xorg