[06:49] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: well, I had this problem fixed before by running:
[06:49] <DaZjorz> in console 2
[06:49] <FUSiONX> thanks
[06:49] <DaZjorz> cd /usr/bin
[06:49] <marcus> linux gtk, linux amd, linux motif, linux ppc
[06:49] <raven3x7> DaZjorz,  sorry that was directed at FUSiONX
[06:49] <djp> marcus: azureus uses java. there is a better alternative installed by default, which does not use suns java
[06:50] <raven3x7> FUSiONX pan maybe?
[06:50] <DaZjorz> ln -s updgs pdgs (i'm not sure about the pdgs ?!)
[06:50] <DaZjorz> sorry i gtg..
[06:50] <DaZjorz> brb in 5 minutes or so
[06:50] <HappyFool> ok
[06:50] <DaZjorz> :)
[06:50] <coolkev> how come ubuntu doesn't exactly support AMD Sempron Processors fully
[06:51] <coolkev> it thinks i have amd athlon xp
[06:51] <coolkev> but i have sempron
[06:51] <coolkev> maybe that could be fixed in up comming version of ubuntu
[06:51] <raven3x7> DaZjorz,  there is also a how-to for adsl-bandwidth management at www.tldp.org
[06:51] <marcus> is there anything easier to use?
[06:51] <JDahl> coolkev, that
[06:51] <Druke> do i have to modify something in order to open .rar files?
[06:52] <yccheok> hw i can check which process is using my cdrom since i cannt eject my cdrom
[06:52] <JDahl> coolkev, that's probably an issue with the kernel... does it matter much?
[06:52] <HappyFool> Druke: you may need to install unrar or unrar-free
[06:52] <coolkev> well sorta
[06:52] <Druke> HappyFool, thanks
[06:52] <HappyFool> yccheok: try 'lsof /dev/cdrom' or 'lsof /media/cdrom'
[06:52] <sss_lr> yccheok: ps aux
[06:52] <coolkev> if ubuntu wants to be a good OS it needs to support the hardware very well
[06:53] <coolkev> i think linux people need to concentrate more on hardware and drivers
[06:53] <HappyFool> heh
[06:53] <marcus> its there any easy to use bittorent clients available for ubuntu
[06:53] <pax> coolkev: what do you get with cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:53] <coolkev> yes Azereus
[06:53] <JDahl> coolkev, ubuntu doesn't make changes to the kernel, so isn't it a generic linux problem?
[06:53] <tim_> azureus
[06:53] <tim_> so nice
[06:53] <FUSiONX> I'm out peeps
[06:53] <FUSiONX> YOU ARE ALL AWESOME!
[06:53] <FUSiONX> :)
[06:53] <FUSiONX> bye.
[06:53] <thundrcleeze> thanks
[06:53] <thundrcleeze> bye
[06:54] <Druke> is something wrong with "http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net "
[06:54] <marcus> dont know how to use azureus
[06:54] <coolkev> pax: it shows the wrong clock speed and shows AMD Athlon Xp
[06:54] <coolkev> 1500+
[06:54] <coolkev> and i have AMD sempron 2400+
[06:54] <pax> coolkev: are you aware that AMD do not go by frequency clocking?
[06:54] <coolkev> yes
[06:55] <JDahl> marcus, if you just need to download simple things like Linux ISO, then Gnome's btclient is fine
[06:55] <coolkev> but my speed is suppose to be 1.5 ghz
[06:55] <coolkev> as it says on box
[06:55] <djp> marcus: if you click on a torrent file in your web browser it should launch the default bittorrent client. all you do is choose the directory to download to and... that's it!
[06:55] <pax> coolkev: you need to check your bios to find out what your multiplier is set to
[06:55] <coolkev> for AMD i got
[06:55] <coolkev> what should it be set to?
[06:55] <pax> coolkev: check AMD site to find out.
[06:56] <coolkev> ok
[06:56] <HappyFool> coolkev: your speed should be 1.5 GHz and /proc/cpuinfo says 1500 ... what's the problem?
[06:56] <pax> HappyFool: he's confused.
[06:57] <kutucape> hi all
[06:59] <lsuactiafner> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
[06:59] <lsuactiafner> coolkev : also if the cpu aint used 100% it scales the frequency down to use less power
[06:59] <Centaur> My wireless card will only work with the access point that I used to install ubuntu and not with any other. I do get connected to other access points but I can't ping anything. What can I do to fix it?
[07:00] <lsuactiafner> like my 3200 runs @ 1G if loads are low but @ 2G if high
[07:00] <pax> lsuactiafner: he left the building long ago.
[07:00] <^DodGeR^> Centaur, u need to change the routing/dns's ? u try in your netwokring setup ?
[07:00] <lsuactiafner> and he left..
[07:00] <lsuactiafner> idiot.
[07:00] <pax> heh
[07:01] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: Well I have changed them with routers that are static but they're usually dhcp and it doesn't even get assigned an ip
[07:01] <^DodGeR^> hrmmm, i usually set them static ..
[07:02] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: I've tried it with wep on, off, ssid broadcast on and off, and on routers that assign via dhcp I tried static and still no traffic
[07:02] <^DodGeR^> ugg
[07:02] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: But the router does show that it's connected
[07:02] <^DodGeR^> basically all i need is dns server , gateway , my ip , essid and wep key , i put those in static and im a-for-away
[07:03] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: Yeah, that's how it should be but it won't work...only with the router that I initially used to install
[07:03] <kutucape> xlibs can't be configured after upgrading to breezy ;(
[07:03] <^DodGeR^> your default gateway must obviously be the gw on the essid connection of interest
[07:03] <Centaur> Hmm....wouldn't I still be able to ping local computers though?
[07:03] <^DodGeR^> whats route show u Centaur  ? the one with UG in it ? ie whats yer default gw route
[07:03] <Centaur> or atleast be able to ping the router
[07:04] <kutucape> i wonder that xlibs means nothing
[07:04] <^DodGeR^> yeah local u should always be able to reach
[07:04] <kutucape> also xbase-clients
[07:04] <mwe> kutucape, according to /topic X is broken in breezy
[07:04] <^DodGeR^> depending on local interface setup though
[07:04] <HappyFool> kutucape: someone (tefli?) yesterday mentioned something about need to create /etc/xkb/ files, but i didn't have a clue what he was on about
[07:05] <fabiob> seems that xkeyboard-config holds /etc/xkb/ files
[07:06] <fabiob> but without xbase-clients, X freezes (here)
[07:06] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: When I turn wireless on my default gw is wlan0
[07:06] <seth_k> fabiob: breezy X is terribly broken since 36
[07:06] <^DodGeR^> ok , and u want default route to be via wlan0 gateway
[07:06] <^DodGeR^> not the origional other essid gateway
[07:06] <fabiob> seth_k: yes, I noticed that (late) :)
[07:07] <Centaur> So are you saying that the default gw wlan0 is actually saved settings for my original router?
[07:07] <^DodGeR^> right
[07:07] <^DodGeR^> so change your default gw to the one on the new essid
[07:08] <Centaur> Oh, alright then....I'll give that a shot real quick
[07:08] <D1> I have to say
[07:08] <^DodGeR^> eg. if essid blah gateway was xyz. but u want your new essid with gateway abc to be activated .. change your default gw route to be via abc
[07:08] <D1> ubuntu has been the only distro my wireless worked so flawlessly with without so little effort.
[07:08] <D1> especially through gnome.
[07:08] <^DodGeR^> then try ping gateway abc
[07:09] <seth_k> D1: word
[07:09] <mike998> seth_k: so giving breezy a go today isn't a good idea?
[07:09] <^DodGeR^> agreed D1 , wireless in ubuntu a breeze :)
[07:09] <D1> yeah.
[07:09] <^DodGeR^> gentoo it freezes my box !
[07:09] <^DodGeR^> heh
[07:09] <^DodGeR^> lunar it works , but only if i pray a lot
[07:09] <^DodGeR^> ubuntu zero issues whatsoever :)
[07:10] <D1> can't wait till breezy comes out in oct.
[07:11] <nn> Where do i submit packages i've built for hoary?
[07:11] <HappyFool> nn: maybe ask in #ubuntu-motu
[07:11] <lesshaste>  can someone explain to me how usb storage works in linux? When I attach the device I can then mount it. But if I disconnect it presumably that is bad if I don't umount it first?
[07:12] <HappyFool> nn: or perhaps the backports guys will take it
[07:12] <D1> nn: what have you built?
[07:12] <lesshaste> or is there some automatic way of mounting/umounting?
[07:12] <HappyFool> lesshaste: that sounds right. You need to manually unmount
[07:12] <lesshaste>  but then it isn't really hot pluggable
[07:12] <Zerboxx> Hey, if I insatll xfce, will it become the default wm automatically?
[07:12] <HappyFool> lesshaste: you should be able to right-click on the icon and unmount
[07:12] <tim_> anyone know if breezy is planning to include beagle in the distro?
[07:13] <D1> Zerboxx, I'm sure you can change that through GDM
[07:13] <flodine> whats up with the backports mirrormax
[07:13] <nn> D1: joe and pork working fully, planning to release xmcast packages soon as 1.1 is ready
[07:13] <lesshaste> HappyFool, well.. I know how to umount it. It just doesn't seem very hot pluggable if you have to umount by hand
[07:13] <HappyFool> lesshaste: it don't know what the definition of 'hot-pluggable' is, but it's a lot more pluggable than pci or ide ;)
[07:13] <nn> D1: but basicly anything i use that isnt in hoary i'll be building
[07:13] <lesshaste> HappyFool, :) ok
[07:13] <D1> ah, sounds good.
[07:13] <flodine> is there a backport problem today
[07:13] <D1> I'm waiting for gnomebaker .04
[07:14] <nn> Locally i'm the guy everyone comes to for ubuntu help since i passed out about 100 ubuntu cd's recently
[07:14] <D1> it looks really good from the changelog.
[07:14] <HappyFool> tim_: take a look on packages.ubuntu.com -- you can search for breezy packages there
[07:14] <nn> need to order more as a matter of fact and drop more at the library, they're out already
[07:14] <tim_> thx Hackmo
[07:14] <tim_> and by Hackmo....I mean HappyFool
[07:14] <flodine> anyone use backports
[07:15] <smoochie> anyone know how to get the debian repo keys working and in turn the debian repos working?
[07:15] <jkka> propably someone
[07:16] <mwe> smoochie, ubuntu is not binary compatible with debian
[07:16] <smoochie> really
[07:16] <smoochie> I thought it was just a header in the repos that serarated the two
[07:16] <nn> smoochie: different versions of libraries and what not
[07:17] <jkka> totally complete patching even in the main repos
[07:17] <kutucape> HappyFool, ok i'll try...
[07:17] <smoochie> wow so it would never work that sucks
[07:18] <nn> I like ubuntu so far
[07:18] <kutucape> X broken in breezy because Xorg is in modular now?
[07:18] <HappyFool> kutucape: he strace'd something-or-the-other do find out what was wrong
[07:18] <kbrooks> kutucape, dont ask
[07:18] <jkka> I havent missed debian repos
[07:18] <Discipulus> What's wrong with Breezy?
[07:18] <mwe> it's broken
[07:18] <Discipulus> How'd X break?
[07:18] <nn> i need to set up a repo for my packages before i leave for iraq :)
[07:19] <DekaPink> Harrypotterharrypotterharrypotterharrypotter.
[07:19] <nn> maybe get one of the other kclug guys to maintain it
[07:19] <lsuactiafner> HappyFool : know of a way to crack rar files?
[07:19] <lsuactiafner> friend sent me images of his holiday and forget to tell me the passwd
[07:19] <kutucape> kbrooks, pardon me, dont ask about what?
[07:19] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: sorry, no
[07:19] <DekaPink> That seems like a silly thing to ptu a password on.
[07:20] <other|study> lsuactiafner: bruteforce ;)
[07:20] <kutucape> i have upgraded my gtk and pango package to support cairo too
[07:20] <kutucape> and it works
[07:20] <other|study> DekaPink: no it's not a silly thing
[07:20] <kutucape> but i dont see any differences
[07:20] <other|study> lsuactiafner: it'll be easier to ask your friend. and a lot faster.
[07:21] <raven3x7> oh man both dcgui and dcgui-qt seem not that usefull
[07:22] <Wheatley> Do I have to do something like reboot after I modify limits.conf for it to take effect?
[07:22] <fabiob> kuntucape: don't install xbase-clients
[07:22] <Discipulus> lsuactiafner, ask in #crypto
[07:22] <Discipulus> lsuactiafner, my guess though is that it would actually be stored in the file, probably in a header
[07:23] <kutucape> fabbione, do i have to apt-get remove xbase-clients?
[07:23] <lsuactiafner> other|study : yeh about ready to do a dictionary attack with bash
[07:24] <Discipulus> lsuactiafner, nah, don't do that, look at the file in a hex editor first
[07:24] <kutucape> well i have to wait for X to be fixed
[07:24] <other|study> Discipulus: do you honestly believe that rar files are that easy to crack?
[07:25] <kutucape> thanks all
[07:25] <fabiob> kutucape: just leave it in that state, you'are lucky it's working
[07:25] <Discipulus> other|study, yes
[07:25] <mjkelly93> anyone out there using a 9xxx radeon card?  what driver r u using in xorg.conf?
[07:25] <KarlosII> are we ever gonna see 3d accellerated desktops in linux, I wonder when xorg is gonna progress to thatpoint
[07:26] <lsuactiafner> Discipulus : thanks
[07:26] <Discipulus> other|study, you would be surprised at the protocols and algorithms that they use for that sort of thing
[07:26] <Maddy> hi folks
[07:26] <Fanskapet> mjkelly93 a mobility-chip?
[07:26] <mjkelly93> its a radeon 9250 pci
[07:26] <mjkelly93> i think it is a mobility
[07:26] <mwe> mjkelly93, Im using the binary fglrx from ati
[07:26] <Fanskapet> no it's not... if it's pci :)
[07:26] <mjkelly93> yeah i was just gonna say its not a mobility chip
[07:27] <Fanskapet> :D
[07:27] <mjkelly93> mwe,  what card do u have?
[07:27] <Fanskapet> well then i dunno
[07:27] <kutucape> fabiob, yes, i'm lucky after struggling :D
[07:27] <mwe> mjkelly93, radeon 9800 pro
[07:27] <mjkelly93> pci?
[07:27] <Fanskapet> fglrx should work since it's made for those cards :)
[07:27] <mjkelly93> i know but it really really doesnt work at all
[07:27] <Fanskapet> i have had some problems using it though odd ones
[07:27] <mjkelly93> its like a week now trying this and it really doesnt work
[07:27] <Fanskapet> have you tried to install the fglrx driver then?
[07:28] <mjkelly93> yes
[07:28] <kutucape> so, what libcairo for?
[07:28] <mjkelly93> it runs the make files correctly but then doesnt work
[07:28] <Fanskapet> from where? the one included in the "program updater" app in ubuntu? :)
[07:28] <mjkelly93> homeslice@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: No
[07:28] <mjkelly93> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:28] <mjkelly93> no
[07:28] <mjkelly93> i downloaded the ati rpm file, converted via alien, and install the deb
[07:28] <Fanskapet> then try that one instead..
[07:28] <mwe> mjkelly93, did you modprobe fglrx and change the driver in xorg.conf?
[07:29] <mjkelly93> if i change the driver in xorg.conf and restart x, i get a black screen
[07:29] <mjkelly93> when i modprobe fglrx i get no return, which is a good thing cuz theres no error
[07:29] <JDigital`> Hey guys, what's the best way to install Java runtime to use applets in firefox?
[07:30] <mwe> mjkelly93, check the log for errors
[07:30] <JDigital`> To get the self-installer from the Sun website?
[07:30] <JDigital`> or is there a package I can apt-get that will be easier
[07:30] <mjkelly93> i cant check the Xorg.0.log because when i restart my comp from that black screen, that i CANT alt ctrl out of, it rewrites the log
[07:30] <Fanskapet> sounds like the problem occured for me once
[07:31] <mjkelly93> id love to be able to read that log
[07:31] <nn> mjkelly93: ctrl-alt-f1
[07:31] <nn> mjkelly93: try the magick console switch
[07:31] <mjkelly93> doesnt work
[07:31] <mjkelly93> nor does ctrl alt backspace
[07:32] <fabiob> mjkelly93: startx 2> ~/log
[07:32] <nn> mjkelly93: Worst case, when you reboot, hit shift @ grub, pick the ubuntu from grub menu, press 'e', select the 'kernel ...' line, append 'init=/bin/sh'
[07:32] <Fanskapet> mjkelly93 have you booted up in "safe mode" and looked in xorg.conf so you're card is chosen and not any other card?
[07:32] <AlexBO> Hello!I've got Ubuntu 5.04. Can anybody advice me a good download manager?
[07:32] <mjkelly93> yes i tried recovery mode, and it still writes to the log
[07:32] <Discipulus> AlexBO, wget
[07:32] <Fanskapet> my problem was that the driver chosed a different card than I really had.. had to change it manually to the 9700 mobility
[07:32] <mjkelly93> fabiob whats that?
[07:33] <AlexBO> Discipulus: I'm using it.I'm disgusted :-o
[07:33] <Fanskapet> change some other options aswell though.. frambuffer and stuff
[07:33] <Discipulus> AlexBO, because it doesn't have a GUI?
[07:33] <tony> anyone know of a gui to mount iso on ubuntu?
[07:33] <Fanskapet> but then again.. is probably another problem you have since you're not on a mobility chip
[07:33] <mjkelly93> listen what i need to do is change the xorg.conf to reflect fglrx, then stop the X server via /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then start X again and write that log file somewhere other than var/log/Xorg.0
[07:33] <raven3x7> ugh the vesa drivers are making my system sluggish
[07:33] <fabiob> mjkelly93: it writes the log in ~/log
[07:33] <AlexBO> Discipulus: what is a GUI?
[07:33] <MagiPink> Weird computer... I left it for a few minutes and when I came back the screen was all black.
[07:33] <Fanskapet> tony why not use mount? :)
[07:34] <Discipulus> AlexBO, Graphical User Interface, why don't you like wget?
[07:34] <Fanskapet> GUI == Graphical User Interface
[07:34] <Fanskapet> :)
[07:34] <mjkelly93> fabiob, would that answer the last comment i made?
[07:34] <tony> anyone know any gui to "open" iso:s -
[07:34] <kbrooks> MagiPink, thats by design
[07:34] <tony> i cant figure mount out
[07:34] <raven3x7> AlexBO d4x
[07:34] <fabiob> mjkelly93: it should
[07:34] <tony> it says that it is not a catalog...
[07:34] <MagiPink> kbrooks: Yes, but... It wouldn't be not-black. o.O I had to restart.
[07:34] <mjkelly93> fabiob, whats the 2 for?
[07:34] <fabiob> tony: file-roller
[07:35] <AlexBO> Discipulus: no :-)  because it's very slow. I'm used to getright with win and it was more and more speedier
[07:35] <fabiob> mjkelly93: it redirects the standard error
[07:35] <mjkelly93> ok
[07:35] <HappyFool> tony: what does 'file <filename.iso>' tell you -- maybe it's not a standard iso ?
[07:35] <Seveas> tony, use mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[07:35] <tony> thankx ill try file roller!
[07:35] <mjkelly93> ill try that fab, im gonna have to restart twice so it wil take a while for me to get back
[07:35] <Discipulus> aleksi_, it isn't slow, it goes as fast as your internet connection...
[07:35] <Seveas> tony, a nice gui for it will be available in Breezy
[07:35] <AlexBO> raven3x7: Discipulus: I've used it, but it doesn't work with this link: http://download.oracle.com/otn/linux/oracle10g/ship.ccd.lnx32.cpio.gz
[07:35] <Discipulus> aleksi_, why not?
[07:35] <Discipulus> er
[07:36] <Discipulus> AlexBO, what's the problem with it?
[07:36] <tony> ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data
[07:36] <raven3x7> AlexBO, maybe oracle block download managers?
[07:36] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: Are you still around?
[07:37] <knowledge_> can someone tell me why I can't install the Locales package/
[07:37] <Discipulus> AlexBO, you need to be logged into their website to download that and wget doesn't support cookies
[07:37] <AlexBO> raven3x7: Discipulus: yes, it can be this problem. usually it requires me a password, but that time it didn't. and dx4 didn't work
[07:37] <knowledge_> it keeps saying something about unresolved dependancies
[07:37] <tony> i get this ... mount:is not catalog....
[07:38] <AlexBO> raven3x7: Discipulus: now i will retry
[07:38] <Fanskapet> hmm FireFox downloadmanager suits me well atleast
[07:38] <DaZjorz> Discipulus!
[07:38] <DaZjorz> You're back!
[07:38] <DaZjorz> ^^
[07:38] <Discipulus> DaZjorz, yes?
[07:38] <raven3x7> AlexBO, see if you can tell d4x to supply a password somewhere
[07:38] <Discipulus> lol, so?
[07:38] <DaZjorz> ^^
[07:38] <AlexBO> raven3x7: Discipulus: ok
[07:38] <flodine> is breezy nice
[07:39] <^DodGeR^> im here Centaur
[07:39] <DaZjorz> ^^
[07:39] <DaZjorz> i'm installing Ubuntu
[07:39] <raven3x7> AlexBO, there is an option for supplying a password in d4x in the new download tab. you probably need to enable it
[07:39] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: No luck at all, I can't change the default gw to anything cause wlan0 is the only thing listed
[07:39] <DaZjorz> for the how-maniest time now
[07:40] <DaZjorz> its giving errors about the kernel all the time...
[07:40] <tony> Seveas:i get ....mount:is not catalog.... what can be wrong?
[07:40] <DaZjorz> Nvm, it works now :)
[07:40] <AlexBO> raven3x7: it seems be it! :-)
[07:40] <just_in> could anyone suggest a Open source CAD program for linux?
[07:40] <DaZjorz> -- NOTIC: Everyone who has a kernel error saying "linux-386 can't be installed"
[07:40] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: I looked at the log on my router and it keeps saying that the mac address keeps connecting but it appears that it doesn't stay connected
[07:40] <raven3x7> just_in what exactly do you wanna do?
[07:40] <DaZjorz> -- NOTICE: Do this on console 2: cd /usr/bin (and) ln -s udpgk dpgk
[07:41] <raven3x7> AlexBO, cool!
[07:41] <DaZjorz> -- NOTICE or something :\
[07:41] <DaZjorz> --NOTICE: not sure about the DPGK
[07:41] <just_in> what I want to do is design a ball - like a toy whiffle ball
[07:41] <just_in> injection molding type stuff
[07:42] <tony> file-roller cant open .iso files.... hmm any other gui:s
[07:42] <tony> ?
[07:42] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: I did change the dns in /etc/network/interfaces just to be sure
[07:42] <raven3x7> well theres qtcad or something like that but it does only 2d. you seem to be looking for 3d. am i right?
[07:42] <^DodGeR^> uff Centaur  , no clues really , manually change the route ??
[07:42] <fabiob> tony: what version?
[07:42] <^DodGeR^> route del default
[07:42] <^DodGeR^> route add default gw youNewGw
 Seveas:i get ....mount:is not catalog.... what can be wrong? <-- is it a good iso file..?
[07:42] <just_in> yes -3D
[07:43] <Seveas> tony, what does 'file filename.iso' say?
[07:43] <raven3x7> well for 3d i only know blender3d but thats not a cad app
[07:43] <fabiob> tony: file-roller supports iso from 2.7.0
[07:43] <tony> Seveas:i think so it passed a par2 check+ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data
[07:43] <just_in> thanks
[07:43] <tony> i have 2.10.1 thanks!
[07:43] <surly> just_in:http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html
[07:44] <MagiPink> Hey. :-D
[07:44] <fabiob> tony: maybe it's not a common iso. It is a XBOX game, or something?
[07:44] <raven3x7> surly that does 3d?
[07:44] <tony> fabiob errr yes ;)- can i use something else?
[07:45] <tony> fabiob:like quix for xp?
[07:45] <surly> just_in: standard 2D XY axis stuff. Blender is your best bet with the 3D
[07:45] <fabiob> tony: search for xbiso, xtract or xbtool :)
[07:45] <raven3x7> surly that link is wrong
[07:46] <tony> fabiob: muy bien , gracias!!
[07:46] <raven3x7> surly sorry my bad
[07:46] <fabiob> tony: np
[07:46] <surly> raven3x7: np
[07:47] <DaZjorz> can I find them on the Ubuntu page ?
[07:47] <surly> does anyone have JACK running in ubuntu yet?
[07:47] <mike998> DaZjorz: www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:47] <mjkelly93> fabiob, where will that log be written cuz i cant find it?
[07:47] <DaZjorz> Thanks a lot Mike998 :)
[07:47] <raven3x7> surly we were actually talking about the same prog i just confused the name
[07:48] <mjkelly93> i did a grep fglrx *     in /var/log/ and i found it in the kern.log
[07:48] <fabiob> mjkelly93: it's in your home
[07:48] <raven3x7> !addingrepositories
[07:48] <ubotu> raven3x7: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:48] <mjkelly93> its not there
[07:48] <raven3x7> !addingrepos
[07:48] <surly> raven3x7: i figured as much. there arent alot of options other than those 2, unless i'm mistaken.
[07:48] <ubotu> raven3x7: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:49] <Seveas> !repositories
[07:49] <ubotu> well, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:49] <raven3x7> surly yeah its a pitty but i guess cad requires a hell of lot of resources
[07:49] <raven3x7> Saveas thanks
[07:50] <Seveas> DaZjorz, ubuntuguide puts backports in there by default
[07:50] <Seveas> that is not recommended
[07:50] <Seveas> DaZjorz: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:51] <mike998> DaZjorz: please stop using the /me command.
[07:51] <jinroh> nickserv IDENTIFY jinroh
[07:52] <kbrooks> jinroh!
[07:52] <surly> raven3x7: yes it certainly does. i used[still do sometimes]  autocad for years. but now for 2D, i can run QCad on my old laptop just fine.
[07:52] <HappyFool> jinroh: try '/msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>'
[07:52] <JMCS> hello I spoke in spanish
[07:52] <meta> does anyone know why ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is down?
[07:52] <Raptoid> nickserv IDENTIFY blablabla
[07:53] <JMCS> any girl for me
[07:53] <JMCS> ??
[07:53] <HappyFool> and hopefully your password and nick aren't the same ;)
[07:53] <Raptoid> msg nickserv identify<PHONE_NUMBER>4314
[07:53] <david_> hey
[07:53] <raven3x7> surly i work at a printshop. we sure would love an open autocad compatible cad app.
[07:53] <jinroh> Has anyone had success installing Blender3d
[07:53] <david_> does anyone know how to make things transparent in GIMP?
[07:53] <linukso> jinroh: yes
[07:54] <lancer285> is anyone here good w/ video capturing?
[07:54] <JMCS> goodby
[07:54] <david_> I'm trying to adapt a windows icon but i can only get it to a png with white background
[07:54] <linukso> david_: add alpha channel
[07:54] <HappyFool> david_: ask in #gimp if no-one here knows
[07:54] <david_> k
[07:54] <david_> linukso, how would i join an alpha channel?
[07:54] <david_> er add
[07:55] <fonsken> david_, does png support transparant backgrounds?
[07:55] <jinroh> linukso: Did you build from source or pkg. If a package where did you obtain it
[07:55] <david_> fonsken, absoulteutheat that'[s what all linux icons are
[07:56] <highvolt1ge> is it possible to use bittorent if my isp blocks p2p stuff?
[07:56] <surly> jinroh: sudo apt-get install blender      .... this gets you blender 2.36
[07:56] <linukso> david_: rightclick on the layer you want to add the alpha channel to and select "add alpha channel"
[07:56] <linukso> jinroh: sudo aptitude install blender
[07:57] <DaZjorz> linukso: isn't that offtopi... offchannel ?
[07:57] <david_> linukso, i don't have layers, i have an img and a tool window
[07:57] <meta> 340 fps on glxgears = drivers installed for a geforce2MX ?
[07:57] <surly> raven3x7: do you work with the DXF format alot?
[07:57] <msieradzki> i see next upgrade available of X.org after apt-get update, it's still considered as broken?
[07:57] <HappyFool> meta: try 'glxinfo|grep direct'
[07:57] <HappyFool> meta: if it says 'direct rendering: Yes' things are probably working
[07:58] <msieradzki> i can guess that until someone "oficially" say that X are usable, we are not "encouraged" to use new X.org?
[07:58] <meta> happyfool: yeah it does, cheers
[07:58] <DaZjorz> ermm
[07:58] <jinroh> surly; linuko: Thanks.  Just made the switch from Fedora
[07:58] <HappyFool> msieradzki: see the topic
[07:58] <HappyFool> msieradzki: there's a specific X-org version mentioned there
[07:58] <DaZjorz> HappyFool, welcome back ^^
[07:58] <DaZjorz> HappyFool, my server can't resolve names... how do i solve that ?
[07:58] <linukso> david_: as DaZjorz said, its a bit of topic, but... select file -> menu -> dock-something -> layers-something...
[07:59] <msieradzki> yeah, i know but how do i roll back X.org version?
[07:59] <BeefTube> wow! Ubuntu64 is so fast i see smoke comeing out of my computer case! cool!
[07:59] <surly> jinroh: welcome
[07:59] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: how are you connected?
[07:59] <DaZjorz> happyfool, i have the nameserver set to my router, .. how do i change ?
[07:59] <HappyFool> msieradzki: um, dunno, sorry
[07:59] <poningru> BeefTube: put water on it now!
[07:59] <msieradzki> i have part of 41 and part of 36 so i wanted to be on something that is sure
[07:59] <poningru> j/k
[07:59] <DaZjorz> happyfool, you mean what kind of connection?
[07:59] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: dial-up, adsl, something else
[07:59] <BeefTube> does ubuntu64 use regular or unleaded?
[07:59] <msieradzki> is there something like debian X strike force in ubuntu?
[07:59] <DaZjorz> the linux server is connected via eth0 to my router, and my router is connected via ADSL
[07:59] <BeefTube> Disel?
[08:00] <DaZjorz> so linux should get its internet via ethernet
[08:00] <poningru> Bio Diesel
[08:00] <mleaste> how do I get a sun java package into synaptic. I already have the universe and multiverse loaded
[08:00] <mleaste> and there is no sun java
[08:00] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: ok, do you know the IP addresses of your nameservers?
[08:00] <meta> jinroh: can you access the servers for updating java and codecs?  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/
[08:00] <DaZjorz> Internet is working (or i wouldn't be here, ofcourse, cuz i'm on the same network)
[08:00] <poningru> mleaste: you wont find java on there
[08:00] <flodine> does anyone have E17 installed
[08:00] <overdose> Cha , I like to ask a question about a BIG order of your Free Cds. Its for a Lan!
[08:00] <poningru> you have to install it yourself
[08:00] <DaZjorz> HappyFool, well, not by hart,.. i'll go take a look what the router thinks about that
[08:00] <D1> I use the apt/source.list from ubuntuguide and backports and java is in synaptic
[08:00] <mleaste> poningru: i have to install it by hand??
[08:01] <DaZjorz> Overdose: I see it as your username. An overdose on CD's ? xP
[08:01] <poningru> weill just go to the java website
[08:01] <poningru> it should have a .deb iirc
[08:01] <D1> look for jre
[08:01] <linukso> mleaste: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:01] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: does your router act as a dhcp server?
[08:01] <poningru> mleaste: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:01] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: It does, but I have my server configured to have a static IP
[08:01] <poningru> there that should help
[08:02] <knowledge_> can someone tell me why I can't install the Locales package?
[08:02] <jinroh> meta:  Nope.  Can't ping it either
[08:02] <BeefTube> ummmm on laptop I get error installing grub.. it trys to install to hd0.... if I tell it to do a full install(write over entire hard disk) will I get theis same problem? TIA
[08:02] <DaZjorz> knowledge_: does it give an error ?
[08:02] <knowledge_> it keeps saying something about unresolved dependancies
[08:02] <poningru> BeefTube: whats the prob?
[08:03] <poningru> why are you trying to install grub by itself?
[08:03] <DaZjorz> knowledge_: try apt-get install locales <-- i'm not sure about that
[08:03] <david_> linukso, there is no select file menu, no file menu under select
[08:03] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: in that case you need to set the nameserver IP's manually
[08:03] <BeefTube> errr ummm,,, grub trys to install to a hard disk that dont exist.. hd0... and crashes
[08:03] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: the place to do that is /etc/resolv.conf
[08:03] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I know. But my router isn't telling me the nameservers. Is there another way to discover them ?
[08:03] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: look on your other machines
[08:03] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: other machines on the network, i mean
[08:04] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: It only tells the default gateway for the router to connect.
[08:04] <koisti> how to get ssh1 protocol working in ubuntu's sshd
[08:04] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Ok, i'll try that.
[08:04] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: or restart eth0 using dhcp temporarily and find out what the namservers are
[08:04] <david_> linukso, nvm, got it it's under filters color to alphaty!
[08:04] <Seveas> koisti, ssh1 is unsafe...
[08:05] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Thanks a lot
[08:05] <koisti> I know, but that's the only way for me
[08:05] <Seveas> koisti, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:05] <Seveas> it says 'Protocol 2' by default
[08:05] <poningru> BeefTube: so you are just using a normal installer right?
[08:05] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: On Windows, I have the nameserver set to the router IP. And it works.
[08:06] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Does this work on Linux too ?
[08:06] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: hmm
[08:06] <raven3x7> surly not really... i only remember one client using it. mostly we do plt files sometimes we will get some dwg and rather scarcely dxf. we would need Autocad for the dwg files anyway
[08:06] <poningru> and when it gets to installing grub
[08:06] <poningru> the thing fails out?
[08:06] <BeefTube> the 64 bit hoary
[08:06] <koisti> I have try but something have to went wrong because it gives permission denied when I try to take a connection
[08:06] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: i would've thought so
[08:06] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: we can maybe test with dig
[08:06] <Seveas> koisti, did you restart sshd?
[08:06] <poningru> BeefTube: what is the error given?
[08:06] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Apparently they aren't.
[08:06] <koisti> yes and also restart the whole machine,. doesn't help
[08:07] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: On Windows, I have a static IP too. How do I discover them? Is there some website like www.whatismyip.com but then like www.whataremynameservers.com ^^
[08:07] <koisti> so what can I miss
[08:07] <jinroh> surly:  When I run the command to get blender I'm told that package can't be found.  Do I need to add a repository to apt
[08:07] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: My router is only telling me its default gateway.
[08:07] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: what does 'dig @ip.of.router www.google.com say?
[08:07] <koisti> I have added that protocol 1 to file and also the protocol 1 key file
[08:07] <BeefTube> it says "Beef tube, you suck... I tryed to install grub to HD0 and it did not work... LOL"..  Iwill try to install again tomarow... i gotta clean up and do some shopping today...
[08:07] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: On Windows...
[08:07] <poningru> wtf
[08:07] <kbrooks> BeefTube, dude
[08:07] <kbrooks> BeefTube, dude
[08:07] <kbrooks> BeefTube, dude
[08:07] <poningru> dude seriously
[08:07] <poningru> if you didnt want help
[08:08] <BeefTube> 0o
[08:08] <kbrooks> BeefTube, real error message please
[08:08] <kbrooks> ALL OF IT
[08:08] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: no, on linux
[08:08] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: It tells me a lot about Google.
[08:08] <BeefTube> it says grub failed
[08:08] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: OK
[08:08] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: dig works on windows?
[08:08] <BeefTube> and a red background screen
[08:08] <HappyFool> *puzzlement*
[08:08] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: No, I have a dig.exe
[08:08] <poningru> how many times have you tried installing?
[08:08] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: ah
[08:08] <mouse_> any tried playing .asf files?
[08:08] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: try on linux?
[08:08] <mouse_> *anyone
[08:08] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: OK
[08:08] <tony> Seveas:thanx man xbiso works!!
[08:09] <poningru> BeefTube: how many times have you tried installing?
[08:09] <raven3x7> jinroh, blender is in universe
[08:09] <BeefTube> twice...  iwill check the md5 and perhaps try burning another copy on a better CDr
[08:09] <kbrooks> BeefTube, its not the md5
[08:09] <sagitta> I have a nice simple question: how do I get numlock to be on by default (in Hoary)?
[08:09] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: It waits a few seconds and then it says "No servers could be reached. Time-out."
[08:09] <kbrooks> BeefTube, it's something else.
[08:09] <poningru> BeefTube: are you dual booting?
[08:10] <BeefTube> ah
[08:10] <surly> jinroh: yes, i added these awhile ago, and i always forget that i've done it. but again, yes, add repostories.
[08:10] <BeefTube> tripple booting
[08:10] <poningru> heh nice
[08:10] <BeefTube> win x64, win 32, and linux
[08:10] <DaZjorz> HappyFool?
[08:10] <poningru> make sure that there isnt another bootloader in the MBR already taking up space
[08:10] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: but you can ping the router from linux?
[08:10] <BeefTube> hopefully linux will be ubuntu64
[08:10] <hanasaki> wehre can i set the default app for when a file is double clicked?
[08:10] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I'll try.
[08:10] <poningru> BeefTube: why win64?
[08:11] <poningru> expensive piece of crap
[08:11] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: My bad. The module isn't loaded. The light is off and "network is unreachable".
[08:11] <hakan> hi guys im turkey in hakan im little english for help me pls
[08:11] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: ah-ha ;)
[08:11] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I'll do a modprobe 3c509 (my eth0 card)
[08:11] <BeefTube> for farcry64bit, and for Zbrush 2... I hold the record in highest subdevision of a model... I got 8 million polys
[08:11] <hakan> im my pc ubuntu installed.
[08:11] <FUSiONX> http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[08:11] <FUSiONX> I don't understand step 4 and 7
[08:11] <poningru> hakan: what language do you speak well?
[08:12] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: It works now. Thanks. Do I have to type 'modprobe 3c509' every time I restart the server?
[08:12] <poningru> there are other language help channels
[08:12] <kbrooks> FUSiONX, then dont use the guide
[08:12] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: hrm
[08:12] <misfit_toy> has anyone had the 99% cpu issue? where your cpu is suddenly pegged yet TOP doesn't show anything pegging it? I've had this happen with both FC and Ubuntu, I swear it's Gnome.
[08:12] <hakan> im turkey. to turkish
[08:12] <BeefTube> x64 makes me feel young and sexy too
[08:12] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Can I place it in boot.local or make it load automatically ?
[08:12] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: you can add that module to /etc/modules
[08:12] <hakan> turkish help plz.
[08:12] <FUSiONX> kbrooks don't be an asshole
[08:12] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Okay, Thanks a lot :)
[08:12] <koisti> can someone try to help me with that ssh1
[08:12] <kbrooks> FUSiONX, be nice!
[08:12] <seth_k> misfit_toy: that can be esd + gaim, eating your computer
[08:12] <Tsar_vonHumbug> peeps - what's the easiest way to get c-kermit running?
[08:12] <FUSiONX> Can you help me
[08:13] <FUSiONX> Do I just make a text file in pico>
[08:13] <misfit_toy> seth_k, really, sound and GAIM?
[08:13] <mouse_> anyone noes the necessary audio codecs that i need to install to listen to .asf files?
[08:13] <kbrooks> FUSiONX, and execute it? er wait
[08:13] <misfit_toy> seth_k, next time it happens I'll kill -9 Gaim and see what happens. thx.
[08:13] <seth_k> misfit_toy: let me look up the bug for you.  So you get a bunch of processes that kill your system
[08:14] <misfit_toy> seth_k, wow, interesting, thanks!
[08:14] <HappyFool> Tsar_vonHumbug: there's a ckermit package in the ubuntu multiverse repository
[08:14] <lancer285> does anyone here know anything about cinelerra??
[08:14] <kbrooks> FUSiONX, that runs the runLime.sh
[08:14] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Is openssh-server the same as sshd ?
[08:14] <Tsar_vonHumbug> for the record, I got my usb converter to work - just plugged it in & usbserial seems to detect the port - can now cat /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 - pretty neat
[08:14] <OdiiN> anyone knows what command can produce system bell sound ( echo $'\a' dont works ) ?
[08:15] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: openssh-server should provide an sshd
[08:15] <poningru>
[08:15] <poningru> oops sorry
[08:15] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Thanks
[08:16] <HappyFool> OdiiN: try it in an xterm -- it seems to work there
[08:16] <HappyFool> OdiiN: maybe you need to tweak gnome-terminal settings
[08:16] <hakan> help me pls (im turkish)
[08:16] <Tsar_vonHumbug> HappyFool, have you used it? I can only find gkermit, which doesn't seem to support serial
[08:16] <poningru> hakan: ask the question we will try to help as much as we can
[08:17] <HappyFool> Tsar_vonHumbug: sorry, no. i haven't used kermit in over 8 years
[08:17] <uc50ic4more> lancer285 - I have taken a look-see @ their web site, but have not installed yet... I assume you are using some type of editing app in Windows, and *really* want to find something suitable in Linux?
[08:17] <seth_k> misfit_toy: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5711 is one example, but there are newer ones that are not fixed yet. I can't find them right now.
[08:17] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: no problem ;)
[08:17] <Tsar_vonHumbug> heh - serial is so yesterday ;)
[08:17] <DaZjorz> ^^
[08:17] <OdiiN> HappyFool:  works at terminal, but i need a command, to use in gkrellm
[08:17] <hakan> not understand please turkish talk me operator
[08:17] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: It works :) I'm connected remotely. thanks a lot
[08:18] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: One luxery thing, if its ok... Is it possible to change the login message ?
[08:18] <godofchicken> hi guys, just got my ubuntu cds (thanks a lot) but I'm having a bit of a problem installing
[08:18] <Tsar_vonHumbug> /etc/motd iirc
[08:18] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: um
[08:18] <poningru> godofchicken: whats wrong?
[08:18] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: maybe /etc/issue
[08:19] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Thanks again :) And thanks for all again :)
[08:19] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: or look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config -- and 'man sshd_config'
[08:19] <godofchicken> Basically, I'm on a laptop and it won't acknowledge the keyboard during install
[08:19] <godofchicken> I don't have a spare keyboard here, either
[08:19] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: or what Tsar_vonHumbug said about /etc/motd -- i'm not too sure
[08:19] <jinroh> raven3x7:  Where do I add the unverse entry.  I thought it was /etc/apt/sources.list but that does not appear to be working.  I added the following entries "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted universe
[08:19] <jinroh> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted universe"
[08:19] <poningru> ooph no clue dude
[08:20] <misfit_toy> seth_k, thanks
[08:20] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Thanks thanks :)
[08:20] <HappyFool> jinroh: are you running warty ?
[08:20] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: cool ;)
[08:20] <HappyFool> jinroh: warty = ubuntu 4.10 (older), hoary = ubuntu 5.04 (newer)
[08:20] <jinroh> HappyFool:  I'm running version 5.04
[08:20] <OdiiN> oh, i see manual of xterm, i'll look for settings
[08:21] <godofchicken> no ideas, then?
[08:21] <HappyFool> jinroh: then that line is incorrect
[08:21] <poningru> godofchicken: what kind of keyboard does your lappy have?
[08:21] <poningru> like the standard US one or the EU one?
[08:21] <HappyFool> OdiiN: sorry, no clue about gkrellm ;)
[08:21] <godofchicken> It's inbuilt standard EU one
[08:21] <jinroh> HappyFool:  The file that should be updated is it still sources.list in 5.04
[08:21] <HappyFool> jinroh: yes
[08:22] <HappyFool> jinroh: but you need 'hoary' lines, not 'warty'
[08:22] <HappyFool> jinroh: that file should have almost correct lines, just that they start with a '#'
[08:22] <raven3x7> jinroh, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[08:22] <HappyFool> !sources
[08:22] <ubotu> from memory, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[08:22] <raven3x7> jinroh, yes it is sources.list
[08:22] <HappyFool> hmm, what happened to Seveas' sources.list example?
[08:23] <jomdom> hey guys, could I get some help installing the updated firefox 1.0.5 on my new ubuntu install? how do i go about finding the old one, removing it, and cleanly re-installing?
[08:23] <HappyFool> gah, that's an empty page!
[08:23] <jinroh> raven3x7; HappyFool:  Thanks
[08:23] <raven3x7> jomdom apt-get remove firefox should remove it
[08:24] <lancer285> I'm having problems getting mplayer to work
[08:24] <lancer285> err even installing
[08:24] <kbrooks> HappyFool, maybe #ubuntu-nun knows?
[08:24] <HappyFool> interesting channel name
[08:24] <poningru> jomdom: why do yo want to remove firefox?
[08:25] <HappyFool> kbrooks: you mean #ubuntu-doc?
[08:25] <jomdom> because i want to install the newest
[08:25] <poningru> oh upgrade
[08:25] <poningru> ic
[08:25] <jomdom> i tried the upgrade via the package manager
[08:25] <jomdom> but it only takes me to 1.0.2
[08:25] <poningru> wait till 1.0.6
[08:25] <raven3x7> lancer285 what exaclty is the prob?
[08:25] <OdiiN> if anyone needs a bell for gkrellm this is the command -> xterm -e echo $'\a'
[08:25] <jomdom> well, i figure this is something i need to learn
[08:25] <poningru> they will come out with 1.0.6 within a week
[08:25] <OdiiN> thanks HappyFool
[08:25] <jomdom> i dont' want to have to depend on precompiled packages
[08:25] <poningru> well maybe a little more
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> OdiiN,  ive also seen several 'beep' type commands that can do more controll.
[08:26] <DaZjorz>   Is there some general place where the newest full sources list is ?
[08:26] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: hey I just wanted to thank you for your help earlier. I think I'm pretty screwed with this network though so maybe I'll have to do a reinstall on my router at work.
[08:26] <poningru> jomdom: just go into synaptic and uninstall fierfox from there
[08:26] <Tsar_vonHumbug> HappyFool, found it thanks, once I enabled multiverse
[08:26] <raven3x7> jomdom,  1.0.2 from ubuntu is actually 1.0.4 from mozilla
[08:26] <poningru> and then go to getfirefox.com
[08:26] <kbrooks> !firefox
[08:26] <ubotu> Firefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[08:26] <poningru> and download firefox and install
[08:27] <HappyFool> Tsar_vonHumbug: cool. happy serialising
[08:27] <Tsar_vonHumbug> Firefox 1.0.4 is available from backports, btw
[08:27] <Tsar_vonHumbug> :)
[08:27] <jomdom> backports?
[08:27] <poningru> yeah but 1.0.5 isnt
[08:27] <jomdom> !backports
[08:27] <ubotu> hmm... backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[08:27] <kbrooks> dont
[08:27] <OdiiN> Dr_Willis: which are they?
[08:27] <raven3x7> Tsar_vonHumbug,  1.0.4 is already in ubuntu. no need for backports
[08:27] <poningru> no thats not it
[08:27] <^DodGeR^> that sux Centaur  :(
[08:27] <lancer285> raven3x7 when I do sudo apt-get install mplayer it says that its in the database, but not actually there
[08:27] <^DodGeR^> hope u get it going
[08:28] <Tsar_vonHumbug> cool - I'll update thx
[08:28] <liroth> hey kids, how do I figure out why my USB 2 device is only doing USB 1 thoughput? (10 kbit/s)
[08:28] <raven3x7> lancer do apt-get update and retry
[08:28] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports =~ s////. Do not use these for days./
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> OdiiN,  one i think was called 'beep' :P used it a few mo back on a headless server.. i made it beep out different codes during boot up.
[08:28] <Tsar_vonHumbug> umm - do you have the right drivers for USB 2 ?
[08:28] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: yeah, I took it to my friend's house yesterday cause he's been using linux for years and he said that he had the problem with his old mac but he can't remember how he fixed it
[08:28] <lancer285> raven3x7 okay thanks!
[08:29] <raven3x7> lancer285, you need to sudo ap-get btw
[08:29] <^DodGeR^> Centaur, maybe just remove the wireless connection alltogehter , then reboot , adn readd it from scratch ?
[08:29] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, what's hanging off the USB?
[08:29] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports =~ s#/#. Do not use the backports for day to day usage.
[08:29] <ubotu> kbrooks: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:29] <^DodGeR^> pointin at new essid and router and whatnot
[08:29] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports =~ s#/#. Do not use the backports for day to day usage.#
[08:29] <ubotu> kbrooks: OK
[08:29] <kbrooks> !backports
[08:29] <ubotu> well, backports is at http:. Do not use the backports for day to day usage./backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[08:29] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: its /etc/motd :)
[08:29] <kbrooks> uh
[08:29] <kbrooks> :|
[08:29] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, only an USB Storage Device
[08:30] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: cool, will remember that
[08:30] <liroth> a USB 2.0 Storage Device to be exact
[08:30] <OdiiN> any command as beep :\
[08:30] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I just made it 2 lines instead of 15. xP
[08:30] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, any way I can check wether the kernel treats it as an USB1 or USB2 port-
[08:30] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: well 8, not 15
[08:30] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: oh yeah, i vaguely remember ssh'ing into an ubuntu box
[08:30] <poningru> liroth: go into system admin and device man
[08:31] <Centaur> ^DodGeR^: Maybe I'll give that a shot or I'm actually thinking about buying a new wireless card but I'm not sure which brand uses the prism2
[08:31] <Mobius> anyone here using adblock with firefox?
[08:31] <raven3x7> anyone got experience with the nvidia driver?
[08:31] <HappyFool> Mobius: me
[08:32] <Mobius> HappyFool, check this out: http://www.pierceive.com.nyud.net:8090/
[08:32] <OdiiN> beep installed, good program xD
[08:32] <poningru> Mobius: yeah whats up?
[08:32] <^DodGeR^> dont get a ralink / rt2500
[08:32] <liroth> poningru, well usb 1.0 doesn't support power right?
[08:32] <godofchicken> No ideas, then?
[08:32] <^DodGeR^> i hear oronco or some such works fine
[08:32] <poningru> liroth: I think it does
[08:32] <HappyFool> Mobius: this going to break anything ? :)
[08:32] <Tsar_vonHumbug> lsmod might be a start ...
[08:32] <poningru> godofchicken: sorry
[08:32] <Mobius> HappyFool - no, it is a great set of filters.. just found it
[08:32] <liroth> poningru, that'd be new to me... since my usb 1 ports at home do not...
[08:32] <Mobius> figured I would share it with my beloved Ubuntuers =)
[08:32] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports is <reply>backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!
[08:32] <ubotu> ...but backports is already something else...
[08:32] <Centaur> Well I was told that the new linksys cards don't work cause they have the broadcom chipset so that made me really disappointed
[08:33] <kbrooks> ubotu, forget backports
[08:33] <ubotu> kbrooks: i forgot backports
[08:33] <liroth> poningru, any way I can make linux use these ports as USB 2.0? istead of USB 1.0?
[08:33] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports is <reply>backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!
[08:33] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[08:33] <mike998> I've installed a program called yeahconsole, and it states that I should be using the xdefaults for the keybinding for this program to hide and show...  Where are my xdefaults>?
[08:33] <HappyFool> Mobius: ah, right. thanks
[08:33] <Mobius> HappyFool - make sure you spread the word if you like it =)
[08:34] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, what do you get when you do 'lsmod | grep usb' ?
[08:34] <jcfreak> Centaur: i got a belkin card working (broadcom chipset) w/ ndiswrapper
[08:35] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, what am I supposed to look for?
[08:35] <Centaur> jcfreak, Really?  So was it a pretty smooth installation and how is wep support?
[08:35] <admin0> hi all .. what do I do to have hedgehog utilize my HT processor ?
[08:35] <admin0> what do I do to have it load a smp kernel ?
[08:35] <ScislaC> anyone have success with the most recent ATI drivers and xorg?
[08:36] <hanasaki> i sold my ati and got a nv
[08:36] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, just 1st place to look - usbview shows which mode you're running apparently
[08:36] <poningru> admin0: go into synaptic
[08:36] <jcfreak> Centaur: i've never messed with the wep settings, but the card setup was quite easy
[08:36] <poningru> and search for linux-
[08:36] <poningru> there should be package for smp
[08:36] <HappyFool> admin0: there are -smp kernel images, afaik
[08:36] <DaZjorz>  !! UBUNTU ROCKZ !!
[08:36] <ubotu> DaZjorz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:36] <jomdom> poningru: when i try to remove "mozilla-firefox" from synaptic, it tells me i'll need to uninstall ubuntu-desktop and yelp as well
[08:37] <admin0> noted
[08:37] <admin0> thanks
[08:37] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, lsmod should show usb-storage and scsi-mod for starters
[08:37] <poningru> oh wow
[08:37] <poningru> jomdom: hmm
[08:37] <admin0> are there login screens available or ubuntu ? where I can select a few ?
[08:37] <DaZjorz> Ubotu: My server is... But ubuntu itself.. I have no idea what is bigger, about 1 GB or a breadbox
[08:37] <ubotu> that's too long, DaZjorz
[08:37] <DaZjorz> ubotu ?
[08:37] <ubotu> DaZjorz: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:37] <Tsar_vonHumbug> yep jomdom, same here - probably not a good idea to uninstall methinks...
[08:37] <DaZjorz> ubotu, is that a bot .. xP
[08:37] <ubotu> DaZjorz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:37] <Centaur> jcfreak: Well maybe I'll have to look into a new card then, I have a sneaky suspicion that my problems with my wireless right now is probably because of the card (D-Link DWL-630)
[08:37] <DaZjorz> It iz.
[08:37] <jcfreak> Centaur: here is some info that could be helpful: http://www.gidforums.com/t-4390.html
[08:38] <DaZjorz> Thats for sure
[08:38] <DaZjorz> Ubotu is a bot
[08:38] <DaZjorz> xP
[08:38] <ubotu> DaZjorz: I give up, what is it?
[08:38] <helgoman> hi
[08:38] <DaZjorz> A BOT
[08:38] <DaZjorz> xP
[08:38] <raven3x7> i think ubuntu-desktop is not what the name suggests if i remember correctly
[08:38] <HappyFool> admin0: look in System -> Administration -> Login screen setup
[08:38] <jomdom> well, hmmm... how do I install firefox 1.0.5 then?
[08:38] <DaZjorz> Ubotu, I don't like to tell you this... I'm really sorry for this... But, i have to be honest... You are a bot....
[08:38] <ubotu> DaZjorz: I think you lost me on that one
[08:38] <mjkelly93> how do i completely uninstall the fglrx module because i need to reinstall it?
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> jomdom,  could use the source.
[08:38] <Tsar_vonHumbug> jomdom, did you install the backports firefox?
[08:38] <jomdom> nope
[08:38] <admin0> i know that HappyFool , i want to know if there were alternatives and more available for choice D:
[08:38] <mjkelly93> my kern.log is telling me its loaded even after i removed it via synaptic
[08:38] <jcfreak> Centaur: i would try to set the wep up and let you know how it works, but its on my pc at work
[08:38] <HappyFool> admin0: ah, no clue
[08:38] <Tsar_vonHumbug> jomdom, cool - so that's not the problem - whew!
[08:38] <Mobius> jomdom..
[08:38] <jomdom> well, i marked firefox for upgrade in synpatic
[08:39] <Mobius> It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system
[08:39] <Mobius> packages are not desired.  However, it is recommended that you keep
[08:39] <Mobius> it installed, because it is used to carry out certain upgrade
[08:39] <Mobius> transitions (such as adding new packages to the system).
[08:39] <jomdom> and it worked
[08:39] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, yea that's what it shows.
[08:39] <Mobius> thats ubuntu-desktop jomdom
[08:39] <Tsar_vonHumbug> install & run usbview
[08:39] <jomdom> hmm, so i think i'll leave it in there
[08:39] <lpk> How could i configure GTK 1 fonts etc. in similiar fashion than with qt-config?
[08:39] <Mobius> I took it out on my laptop jomdom
[08:39] <poningru> jomdom: you can just install 1.0.5
[08:39] <mjkelly93> anyone                   im trying to completely remove the fglrx module, any advice?
[08:39] <poningru> it doesnt matter
[08:39] <poningru> oh btw
[08:39] <thechitowncubs> ubotu
[08:39] <jomdom> but isnt' that like... dirty?
[08:39] <Centaur> jcfreak: Wep is really important to me cause I'm never going to disable that at my store, too many customers with personal info that I don't want to risk
[08:39] <jomdom> duplicate files, etc?
[08:40] <poningru> jomdom: no the installer should detect
[08:40] <poningru> you should take a look at their installer
[08:40] <jomdom> i am used to a windows file system where programs go into program files, etc.
[08:40] <lancer285> raven3x7 I tried the apt
[08:40] <jomdom> where are programs typically installed?
[08:40] <poningru> jomdom: where ever you want
[08:40] <DaZjorz> mjkelly: Does this work: apt-get uninstall fglrx
[08:40] <lancer285> raven3x7 I tried the apt-get update, but that didn't help
[08:40] <poningru> I go with /usr/local
[08:40] <DaZjorz> mjkelly: Just trying
[08:40] <poningru> but its your choice
[08:40] <my_haz> jomdom: /usr/local/
[08:40] <mjkelly93> ill try it but i doubt it
[08:40] <poningru> make sure to run sudo when you run the installer
[08:41] <raven3x7> jomdom poningru it is not recomended to istall firefox over a previous installation
[08:41] <my_haz> jomdom: exes are in /usr/local/bin
[08:41] <FUSiONX> any one use Cedaga?
[08:41] <poningru> really?
[08:41] <DaZjorz> mjkelly93 you're trying to remove a driver module? try /etc/modules ...
[08:41] <Centaur> jcfreak: What model is your card?
[08:41] <lancer285> fusionx, yeah I use cedega
[08:41] <mjkelly93> etc/modules?
[08:41] <poningru> I am currently running 3 diff firefox at the same time
[08:41] <FUSiONX> does it work?
[08:41] <lancer285> works great
[08:41] <FUSiONX> really?
[08:41] <poningru> err 3 diff versions
[08:41] <lancer285> yeah, you having problems?
[08:41] <FUSiONX> may I PM you?
[08:41] <poningru> no problems here
[08:41] <DaZjorz> mjkelly93 it has the modules you are loading at boot. Maybe this helps.
[08:41] <lancer285> yup
[08:41] <raven3x7> lancer285, try mplayer-386 i thought there was a meta package. you could also search for mplayer in synaptic
[08:42] <jomdom> poningru: it's more of a personal thing... i like neatness
[08:42] <lancer285> raven3x7 I tried that too, but I get the same error
[08:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i set grub to use a different kernel
[08:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> ?
[08:42] <jomdom> no old versions if they aren't needed, etc.
[08:42] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, okay... and now?
[08:42] <poningru> right that makes sense
[08:42] <my_haz> lancer285: mplayer installs fine, on unbuntu from the main site, you make sure to get a bunch of codecs too
[08:42] <raven3x7> thats weird
[08:42] <poningru> jomdom: for me synaptic does not ask to remove everything
[08:42] <poningru> so I dont know whats going on
[08:42] <greatzky> good afternoon.
[08:42] <jcfreak> Centaur: i can't remember the exact model.  its a 54G card, lspci describes the chip as Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g (rev 03)
[08:42] <lancer285> okay, I'll keep looking around
[08:42] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Another problem.
[08:43] <poningru> try to install another browser first
[08:43] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, this system is supposed to have USB 2.0 ports... but usbview is reporting 1.0
[08:43] <poningru> and see if that helps
[08:43] <mjkelly93> DaZjorz,  i need to remove the actual module so i reinstall over it
[08:43] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: shoot
[08:43] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Where can I paste the error message? #paste ?
[08:43] <DaZjorz> mjkelly93: can't you just overwrite ?
[08:43] <jomdom> poningru: alright
[08:43] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:43] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: could u take a look there
[08:43] <mjkelly93> DaZjorz, everywhere i look it says overwriting doesnt always work for fglrx
[08:43] <raven3x7> lancer285, maybe there's a temporary problem with the repo?
[08:43] <Centaur> Does anybody know how well the internal wireless intel cards are supported by linux?
[08:44] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: where? #flood ?
[08:44] <my_haz> Centaur: like a centrino ?
[08:44] <DaZjorz> mjkelly93: sorry. Maybe you can try, if it doesnt work, ask someone else...
[08:44] <Centaur> my_haz: yeah, cause my laptop can have one if I want it
[08:44] <lancer285> raven3x7 okay.
[08:44] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Do I fill in my own username there or the one I want to paste to
[08:44] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, ah... well the 1st step to solving a problem is knowing you have a problem...
[08:44] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: yours
[08:44] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: it doesn't matter too much
[08:44] <mjkelly93> DaZjorz, do u know where i can find the module?
[08:45] <my_haz> Centaur: mine it works fine, but you might try knoppix first to see how much of a problem it will be
[08:45] <my_haz> Centaur: you can use ndiswrapper, its pretty easy
[08:45] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: pasted. Please take a look at the Dazjorz one
[08:45] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, so what make/model is the storage device?
[08:45] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: standby
[08:45] <Centaur> my_haz: Okay, well maybe I'll call my distributor and find out the chipset if I was to buy the card. I think it's time for a change.  :)
[08:46] <my_haz> Centaur: of course you can't do any security auditing with these crap cards
[08:46] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: eek
[08:46] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: what do I do ?
[08:46] <my_haz> Centaur: you don't have the card yet?
[08:46] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, WesternDigital, 80GB, USB 2
[08:46] <Centaur> my_haz: Well I think I'll buy a new one cause this d-link seems to be a problem
[08:46] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: can you cd to /media/cdrom   (I assume the ubuntu cd is in the drive)
[08:46] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Ofcourse
[08:46] <my_haz> Centaur: well if you buy one BYE A GOOD ONE! hehe not one of those intel jobies
[08:47] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: and run 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt'   -- that will verify the integrity of the files
[08:47] <DaZjorz> erm
[08:47] <my_haz> Centaur: do your research
[08:47] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, whats makeing me wonder is: usbview is reporting that the usb slot is version 1.10 and speed is 12Mbit/s but I am told these slots are usb 2.0 ....
[08:47] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: cdrom is mounted as /cdrom, not /media/cdrom
[08:47] <my_haz> Centaur: go to netstumblers website and you will find tons of info!
[08:47] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: ok
[08:47] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Its not mounted. Sorry.
[08:47] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: It is now. I'll try
[08:47] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: that could be the problem ;)
[08:47] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: No, apt-get mounts it automatically
[08:47] <Centaur> my_haz: Well I figure I'll buy external but I'm just looking into my options. I switched to ubuntu because of my wireless card and it works fine but only with the router I used to install  :)
[08:47] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: ok
[08:48] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I'm checking integrity.
[08:48] <my_haz> Centaur: Sounds like a plan
[08:48] <raven3x7> lancer285, synaptic works for me. you used that repository i gave you?
[08:48] <poningru> anyone know how to mount a usb wireless adapter?
[08:48] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Does this md5sum.txt contains the md5's for all files on the whole CD ?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> poningru,  a wireless network adaptor?
[08:48] <Centaur> my_haz, Thanks for the info.
[08:49] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: as far as i know
[08:49] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: K. How long does this take |-)
[08:49] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: a little while
[08:49] <tobytwirl> Hi all! Having a bit of a crisis here and would be grateful for some help.  How can I log on as su ?
[08:49] <DaZjorz> type su xP
[08:49] <DaZjorz> sudo su -
[08:49] <DaZjorz> and type in password
[08:49] <Discipulus> ya'll got the wallop
[08:49] <Discipulus> follow it
[08:49] <lancer285> raven3x7 the main site?
[08:50] <synd> /ignore lilo
[08:50] <DaZjorz>  ??
[08:50] <synd> :>
[08:50] <raven3x7> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[08:50] <tobytwirl> There's the problem ... I only have one password and it says it's wrong
[08:50] <DaZjorz> LOL
[08:50] <DaZjorz> Are you sure you typed it in correctly
[08:50] <DaZjorz> Is your caps lock off
[08:50] <DaZjorz> Etc.
[08:51] <tobytwirl> Yes but I was only ever asked to supply a password once during installation and I have that written down
[08:51] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: that password should work with sudo
[08:51] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: This takes long -.-
[08:52] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: to test, try 'sudo ls' and enter your user password
[08:52] <tobytwirl> OK let me try again
[08:52] <elmagozizou> Does anyone recomend me a a good partitionig program???(not gparted)
[08:52] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: we can test only those files, if you want
[08:52] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Maybe
[08:52] <erirlar> where can i find the ubuntu package list?
[08:52] <poningru> Dr_Willis: yep
[08:52] <HappyFool> erirlar: maybe packages.ubuntu.com is what you want
[08:52] <tobytwirl> now it says unknown id xP
[08:52] <raven3x7> lancer285, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[08:53] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Maybe it helps if I don't copy the files off the cd, but download them from the internet. How do I setup my sources.list to make it do that ?
[08:53] <erirlar> HappyFool: thanks, just what i needed
[08:53] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: fairly easily
[08:53] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment the appropriate lines
[08:53] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: or you can look here:
[08:53] <HappyFool> !sources
[08:53] <ubotu> somebody said sources was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories, or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:53] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: at the second URL is an example sources.list you can use
[08:54] <tobytwirl> sudo ls returns   install-report.template
[08:54] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: then sudo is working
[08:54] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I'll put the CD at the bottom.
[08:54] <khal> how can i install ati x600 mobile drivers?
[08:54] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: you can just comment it out (put a '#' at the front)
[08:54] <DaZjorz> I know, but I still want to use it if the other sources aren't working.
[08:54] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: fair enough
[08:55] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, the question is, how to get the driver to recognise it as usb 2.0 - might be possible with driver options, don't seem to be other mentions of the problem found on google though
[08:55] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: maybe it was just a temporary blip -- i don't know. i haven't had CD problems before
[08:55] <offLimits> hello all
[08:55] <tobytwirl> Sorry - I'm a newbie (only installed for the first time yesterday) and it's all a bit confusing
[08:55] <DaZjorz> HAppyFool: I tried twice.
[08:55] <DaZjorz> I could try another CD though.
[08:55] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: might be an idea
[08:56] <offLimits> sometimes when I log in with Ubuntu I get a message telling me my hostname was not found and that gnome may not work correctly
[08:56] <offLimits> anyone knows what it is?
[08:56] <DaZjorz> But I prefer using the internet above using the CD, because then I have all new upgrades too. :)
[08:56] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: 'short read' looks like a fairly low-level error to me, but I'm not sure
[08:57] <jkka> im waiting for the day that every internet site is done with flash
[08:57] <jkka> *download missing plugin*
[08:57] <elmagozizou> Does anyone recomend me a a good partitionig program???(not gparted)
[08:57] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Yea, but it says 'error' though, thats enough for me to just use the internet.
[08:57] <jomdom> poningru: i downloaded the newest firefox, and am in the installer - should I install it right to /usr/local or to /usr/local/bin, or what?
[08:57] <DaZjorz> elmagozizou: FDISK ?
[08:58] <DaZjorz> CFDISK ?
[08:58] <DaZjorz> fdisk is good in windows
[08:58] <DaZjorz> i think in linux, cfdisk is better
[08:58] <Maddy> jomdom, look for the version 1.0.4
[08:58] <poningru> jomdom: I create a seperate file
[08:58] <candrodor> (Psst, I think s/he means "separate")
[08:58] <poningru> but upto you
[08:58] <jomdom> Maddy: "look for the version 1.0.4"?
[08:58] <poningru> elmagozizou: I would go with qtparted
[08:59] <jomdom> i just got the tar for 1.0.5 off getfirefox.com
[08:59] <poningru> elmagozizou: systemrescuecd
[08:59] <Maddy> jomdom, what do you use right now as browser?
[08:59] <jomdom> mozilla firefox 1.0.5
[08:59] <jomdom> ohh
[08:59] <jomdom> wait
[08:59] <jomdom> mozilla firefox 1.0.2
[08:59] <jomdom> (so says the about screen)
[08:59] <poningru> jomdom: thats the 1.0.4
[08:59] <poningru> in reality
[09:00] <poningru> ubuntu backports
[09:00] <jomdom> okay, isn't that counter-intuitive? ;)
[09:00] <Maddy> ok, then look for the path to the binary
[09:00] <poningru> well for package managment purposes
[09:00] <tobytwirl> OK thanks for the suggestions - better go back to XP then ...
[09:00] <poningru> its quite helpful
[09:00] <poningru> tobytwirl: whats the prob?
[09:00] <HappyFool> jomdom: latest hoary is 1.0.2 with security fixes up to 1.0.4 -- presumably up to 1.0.5 soonish
[09:00] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I changed the /src/apt/sources.list file. CD is now at the bottom. I'll retry.
[09:00] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: ok
[09:00] <jomdom> the path to the binary is in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[09:00] <elmagozizou> ok thks
[09:00] <DaZjorz> brb
[09:00] <tobytwirl> cannot log in as su - the only password I have is invalid
[09:01] <quique> #ubuntu-es
[09:01] <poningru> tobytwirl: use sudo
[09:01] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: you cannot login as root, by default
[09:01] <poningru> try this
[09:01] <poningru> sudo -k
[09:01] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: we recommend using sudo instead
[09:01] <poningru> and now
[09:01] <HappyFool> !sudo
[09:01] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:01] <poningru> sudo apt-get update
[09:01] <tobytwirl> tried that and again the password won't work
[09:01] <poningru> do those two commands
[09:01] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: you can read that url for more info
[09:01] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: but 'sudo ls' worked earlier?
[09:02] <james> Evening
[09:02] <mjkelly93> guys i figured out my problem now,   i install the fglrx package via synaptic but the kernel doesnt load the module
[09:02] <james> Would anyone here be able to help me to setup xorg.conf file to work with the 3d ati drivers?
[09:02] <elmagozizou> But qtparted is unstable...is not a risk for my HD?
[09:02] <mjkelly93> if the package installs correctly how can i instruct the kernel to load the module at bootup?
[09:02] <tobytwirl> sudo ls returned the message   install-report.template
[09:03] <mjkelly93> james,  when u figure it out, u let me know too
[09:03] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: that's a file list (or so i assme)
[09:03] <HappyFool> !wiki binarydriverhowto
[09:03] <mjkelly93> james, cuz thats why im here too,     what ati model do u have?
[09:03] <james> ATI 9800
[09:03] <mjkelly93> i got a ATI 9250
[09:03] <jomdom> Maddy: when i try to select the /usr/local/mozilla-firefox directory, it tells me i don't have permission to install... do I need to shut down the installer and run it as sudo root, or is there a way to transfer an already running proccess?
[09:03] <tobytwirl> sorry don't know/understand - as mentioned, I am new to all this
[09:03] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: what error message do you get when using sudo ?
[09:03] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: fair enough
[09:04] <elmagozizou> But qtparted is unstable...is not a risk for my HD?
[09:04] <Maddy> jomdom, sudo
[09:04] <mjkelly93> i think that the ATI driver dont support my 9250 otherwise id be done already
[09:04] <tobytwirl> just entered sudo su again and for the first time I have a # prompt
[09:04] <lancer285> does anyone here have experience w/ Cinelerra? I need some help
[09:04] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: here's maybe a better test: try 'ls -l /home' and then 'sudo ls -l /home'   -- if it works, you should see exactly the same output
[09:05] <mjkelly93> anyone got experience with FGLRX out there?  specifically the ubuntu package?
[09:05] <james> Ive spent a good number of hours trying to setup the config file without any luck, just does not want to boot some im out of ideas
[09:05] <tobytwirl> ok
[09:05] <james> brb
[09:05] <mjkelly93> yeah me2     james im on day 7 now
[09:05] <james> be right back, just grabbing some food
[09:05] <HappyFool> mjkelly93, james: have you guys read this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:06] <lancer285> my video display in cinelerra is slow, but in kino it looks fine.
[09:06] <tobytwirl> Ok - ls - l /home has come up with my username in BLUE!
[09:06] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: yay
[09:06] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: and with sudo it did the same thing?
[09:06] <Discipulus> tobytwirl, that's cuz it's a directory....
[09:06] <tobytwirl> Will try that now
[09:06] <mjkelly93> yes im pretty sure ive been there
[09:07] <|stefan|> if i install a package that replaces a ubuntu-base package . if i've understad correctly the "auto update package" function won't work ? but will still apg-get dist-upgrade work ??
[09:07] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: it won't be in colour this time -- that doesn't matter
[09:07] <tobytwirl> same details but user name in WHITE!
[09:07] <damonw> |stefan|, what package did you replace?
[09:07] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: ok. that means that sudo works. Whenever you are asked for a password, enter your user password
[09:07] <tobytwirl> forgive my ignorance but what is the significance of this?
[09:08] <damonw> tobytwirl, there is no root account. To do something as root, type "sudo [command] "
[09:08] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: i was making absolutely certain that sudo works -- i.e., that you can become 'super-user'
[09:08] <DaZjorz> HappyFool
[09:08] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: yo
[09:08] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I just got back. I looked on the server
[09:08] <HappyFool> and?
[09:08] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, heres my response to that                          homeslice@ubuntu:~$ sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[09:08] <mjkelly93> FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[09:08] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: It said like 15 lines of "CDROM I/O ERRORS"
[09:08] <tobytwirl> OK - what should I do next?
[09:08] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: eventhough it wasn't even logged on
[09:08] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: cd-rom is poked, i guess
[09:09] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: i'll try another cd
[09:09] <mjkelly93> im gonna try rebooting again     we'll see
[09:09] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: rebooting won't help
[09:09] <HappyFool> aargh
[09:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> is gnome eventually going to have that apple behavior where a program's menu can be put in the top bar area?
[09:09] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: what are you trying to achieve
[09:09] <tobytwirl> want to mount a device
[09:09] <DaZjorz> lol
[09:09] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: what device?
[09:09] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: what device
[09:09] <DaZjorz> xP
[09:09] <HappyFool> heh
[09:10] <tobytwirl> a second hd
[09:10] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: i try to get ur workload a little off
[09:10] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: where do you want to mount
[09:10] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: example /secondhd or /backup or /stuff
[09:10] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: ta ;)
[09:10] <erirlar> is there a net-install disc for ubuntu?
[09:10] <tobytwirl> the command I entered was  mount -auto .dev/hdb / mnt
[09:11] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl you want it to mount to /mnt ?
[09:11] <tobytwirl> without the .
[09:11] <HappyFool> erirlar: take a look here (best i can do): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalNetInstall
[09:11] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: Use "mount /dev/hdb /mnt" without the "'s
[09:11] <HappyFool> no
[09:11] <HappyFool> /dev/hdb1, maybe
[09:11] <damonw> erirlar, try http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[09:11] <DaZjorz> oo yes i forgot
[09:11] <DaZjorz> lol
[09:11] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: Did u already partition, what partition do you want to mount
[09:12] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl did u already do partitioning **
[09:12] <jomdom> woah, cool
[09:12] <kbrooks> you cannot mount entire hard drives.
[09:12] <jomdom> poningru: it automatically detected an old install, deleted the files, and reinstalled it
[09:12] <DaZjorz> lol i know
[09:12] <HappyFool> hopefully he hasn't run that -- i tried to mount an extended partition (i.e., the partition itself) once, and my machine broke
[09:12] <DaZjorz> i forgot
[09:12] <jomdom> and now I am running 1.0.5
[09:12] <jomdom> yay
[09:12] <tobytwirl> it says special device does not exist - and this is a second physical hd (old xp d:)
[09:13] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, im getting the same fatal error after a reboot
[09:13] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: try this: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[09:13] <erirlar> HappyFool, damonw: thanks guys!
[09:13] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: I forgot the 1 after hdb, it means "take partition 1
[09:13] <HappyFool> tobytwirl: you can use 'sudo fdisk -l' to find all your partitions -- don't paste the output here
[09:13] <|stefan|> damonw postfix
[09:13] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: ok
[09:13] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: stand by...
[09:14] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, i had the fglrx drivers working when i installed them from the ATI site, but they dont support my 9250 card... *im pretty sure*,         the ubuntu package installed drivers in a couple completely different places than the ATI package did
[09:14] <tobytwirl> tried that command and it returns to #
[09:14] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: is the 9250 a very recent card?
[09:14] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl OK, now do cd /mnt
[09:14] <james> back
[09:14] <mjkelly93> not particularly
[09:14] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: it'll have the contents of your partition :)
[09:14] <mjkelly93> in synaptic it is listed as a support card exactly
[09:15] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: ah, ok
[09:15] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: standby again (sorry ;)
[09:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so breezy is still broke?
[09:15] <DaZjorz> )
[09:15] <tobytwirl> returned /mnt #
[09:15] <damonw> ChurcH_of_FoamY, yes, X is still broken in Breezy
[09:15] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, thats why im just gonna focus on the ubuntu registered program and not mess around with the ati packages anymore,     sure take your time     ive been tryin this for about 4 days straight now i can wait a lil while
[09:15] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: try 'dir'. Does the harddisk partition contain anything ?
[09:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> any idea when it will be fixed cause i am just dieing to upgrade....
[09:16] <tobytwirl> it should have dir with mp3 files
[09:16] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, the ubuntu package installed about 10 files in /usr/X11R6, the ati packages didnt install anything there?
[09:16] <poningru> ChurcH_of_FoamY: breazy aint broke
[09:16] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: what's the output of 'dpkg -l xorg-driver-fglrx| tail -1'   ?
[09:16] <damonw> ChurcH_of_FoamY, I don't know, but hang around the breezy forums at ubuntuforums.org to find out when
[09:16] <poningru> its being deved right now
[09:16] <mjkelly93> homeslice@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -l xorg-driver-fglrx| tail -1
[09:16] <mjkelly93> ii  xorg-driver-fg 6.8.0-8.8.25-0 Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[09:16] <mjkelly93> homeslice@ubuntu:~$
[09:16] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: if you have done the mount, do "cd /mnt" and then "dir"
[09:16] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: hmm
[09:16] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: Does it output anything
[09:16] <DaZjorz> ?
[09:17] <mjkelly93> my kern.log isnt loading the module on bootup even tho its listed to be loaded in /etc/modules
[09:17] <damonw> |stefan|, what do you mean "postfix"?
[09:17] <HappyFool> mjkelly: how about 'dpkg -L xorg-driver-fglrx|grep fglrx.ko' ?
[09:17] <mjkelly93> but it WOULD load the ati drivers....
[09:17] <DaZjorz> mjkelly93: What does modprobe (module) say
[09:17] <mjkelly93> ok
[09:17] <tobytwirl> yes - the dirs are all listed and the one I'm intereted is there MP3
[09:17] <mjkelly93> it says nothing HappyFool
[09:17] <mjkelly93> DaZjorz,  1 sec
[09:18] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: hmm
[09:18] <mjkelly93> homeslice@ubuntu:~$ modprobe fglrx
[09:18] <mjkelly93> FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[09:18] <mjkelly93> homeslice@ubuntu:~$
[09:18] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: ok, let me go find where that file is
[09:18] <DaZjorz> tobytwirl: OK, good :)
[09:18] <DaZjorz> mjkelly: ok, just wanted to know if it is a built-in module
[09:18] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, before i unloaded the ATI version fglrx, there would be a successful modprobe
[09:18] <tobytwirl> but I cannot cd to that directory - says it doesn't exist
[09:19] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: did you install the ubuntu version before or after uninstalling the ati version?
[09:19] <damonw> |stefan|, what do you mean "postfix"?
[09:19] <othernoob> mmh, how long should it take to load a 300 pages pdf?
[09:19] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: ah
[09:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to make apps be in "full screen" mode, but still leave the panel visible?
[09:19] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: i think i know what might have happened
[09:19] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: What is the name of the directory
[09:19] <damonw> othernoob, do you have broadband or dial-up
[09:19] <tobytwirl> MP3
[09:19] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: another CD seems to work
[09:20] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: the fglrx.ko file is in the linux-restricted-modules package
[09:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> mp3 is a dinosaur that we should all quit talking about and using.
[09:20] <mjkelly93> after uninstalling
[09:20] <DaZjorz> tobytwirl: try "cd mp3"
[09:20] <othernoob> damonw: i meant, in a program, i have the file on my pc.. it seems that everything is a lot slower lately.
[09:20] <DaZjorz> without "'s
[09:20] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: the ATI version overwrote that, and then erased it when uninstalled
[09:20] <DaZjorz> ^^
[09:20] <mjkelly93> hmm interesting idea
[09:20] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: you just need to reinstall linux-restricted-moudles
[09:20] <damonw> othernoob, hmm interesting
[09:20] <mjkelly93> HappyFool,  didnt think of that,   ill use apt-get and specify my kernel version right?
[09:20] <damonw> othernoob, what OS and version are you using?
[09:20] <poningru> when was hoary released?
[09:20] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I inserted another CD. It works now. :)
[09:21] <damonw> poningru, April 2005
[09:21] <tobytwirl> ok that worked
[09:21] <othernoob> damonw: kubuntu hoary
[09:21] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: cool ;). Throw the first one away
[09:21] <DaZjorz> xP
[09:21] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: yeah
[09:21] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: lol :) sure ^^
[09:21] <poningru> so do we excpect an october breazy release?
[09:21] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: Good
[09:21] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: you know how to do this?
[09:21] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: No, sorry, doesn't wrk :\
[09:21] <HappyFool> poningru: yip
[09:21] <damonw> poningru, Of course!
[09:21] <mjkelly93> i have a pretty good idea
[09:21] <tobytwirl> how do I list the contents
[09:21] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: still /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code.
[09:21] <mjkelly93> its telling me its already installed, should i force overwrite?
[09:21] <DaZjorz> tobytwirl: dir
[09:21] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: hmm
[09:22] <damonw> poningru, Every six months
[09:22] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: yip
[09:22] <mjkelly93> ok
[09:22] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: i think there's a --reinstall flag -- check the --help or 'man apt-get'
[09:22] <mjkelly93> ok
[09:22] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: You use mount (device) (dir) to link the directory to the contents of the device.
[09:22] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: You use cd (dir) to go to a directory.
[09:22] <damonw> mjkelly93, "sudo apt-get reinstall install [package] "
[09:22] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: when you have time, try running that md5sum thing -- will check the CD and you cd-rom
[09:23] <mjkelly93> reinstall isnt an option
[09:23] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: You use dir (or ls which is the same) to see the contents of a folder
[09:23] <tobytwirl> ok got the listing and they're all there - now all I have to do is load the player, which is where all the trouble originall started!
[09:23] <mjkelly93> damonw, i had to to sudo apt-get install --reinstall Package
[09:23] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: No, I think the problem is in /usr/bin/dpkg.
[09:23] <damonw> mjkelly93, oops! sorry
[09:23] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Because thats the file that returns errors.
[09:23] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Could that be possible ?
[09:23] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: same error? I think i have it open on the paste-bin still...
[09:23] <|stefan|> damonw that's the package i replaced =) you asked that earlier.
[09:23] <mjkelly93> damonw, its ok :)    i was trying force-overwrite heh
[09:23] <damonw> mjkelly93, :)
[09:24] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Yes, same error.
[09:24] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, ok that reinstalled correctly from the CD
[09:24] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: I had a player a while ago ermm
[09:24] <Garrison> mjkelly93: here's your man apt-get -- http://www.xironet.org/?UserPasteBin&paste=95b26118377ad093ff3feb8a6e970bac
[09:24] <damonw> |stefan|, you should probably be fine
[09:24] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: i thought its named mp123 or something
[09:24] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: ok, try the 'depmod -a; modprobe fglrx' thing now
[09:24] <tfort> anyone here play WoW on their linux system?
[09:24] <damonw> |stefan|, did it uninstall any of the "ubuntu" base packages when you removed it?
[09:24] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: but not sure. Standby i'll search it.....
[09:25] <|stefan|> damonw well when i replaced that package it forced me to remove the ubuntu-base package
[09:25] <mjkelly93> HappyFool,  uh oh
[09:25] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: hmm. to be honest i suspect your cd-rom
[09:25] <mjkelly93> HappyFool,    homeslice@ubuntu:~$ depmod -a; modprobe fglrx
[09:25] <mjkelly93> FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied
[09:25] <mjkelly93> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[09:25] <mjkelly93> homeslice@ubuntu:~$
[09:25] <OdiiN> sudo :)
[09:25] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: But then both cdroms would be broken. I'll do a check.
[09:25] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: remember not to paste too much here
[09:25] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: i meant your drive ;)
[09:25] <DaZjorz> Tobytwiirl: mpg123
[09:25] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, i know    if it would have been another line or 2 i woulda used pastebin
[09:25] <tobytwirl> That's the one
[09:25] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl you can try "apt-get install mpg123
[09:25] <DaZjorz> "
[09:26] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: or if that doesn't work, I'll send you the installer URL.
[09:26] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, whaddya think about that error?
[09:26] <HappyFool> mpg321
[09:26] <DaZjorz> (Y)
[09:26] <tobytwirl> OK hang on a mo
[09:26] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: as OdiiN said, you need sudo for both of those
[09:26] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, ok didnt see that
[09:26] <DaZjorz> Happyfool: If ur workload is a little to much, u can forward some of the things to me.
[09:26] <damonw> |stefan|, ubuntu-base is for warty and hoary, it depends on other packages so if the devels decide to add a standard package it will automatically get installed the next time you do an upgrade
[09:27] <mjkelly93> homeslice@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx
[09:27] <mjkelly93> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[09:27] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, nothing
[09:27] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: um
[09:27] <james> Happyfool: Thanks, the link worked great :)
[09:27] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, should i reboot then try those commands?
[09:27] <james> I only wish I had come accross it sooner
[09:27] <HappyFool> james: cool
[09:27] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: I just read that mpg123 has huge security problems. You can try this program...
[09:27] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: this is new on me
[09:28] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, well then we're both learning hehe
[09:28] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: mp3blaster its called
[09:28] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: the depmod -a worked ?
[09:28] <yahalom> are others having issues with apt-get? i keep getting errors: (111 Connection refused)
[09:28] <|stefan|> damonw i'm running hoary i think. but what does actually the ubuntu-base package do ? it was just some documents and nothing really that important. and is it still possible to run apt-get upgrades ?
[09:28] <Strife> hmm are the backports repositories down?
[09:28] <mjkelly93> HappyFool,  yes
[09:28] <poningru> Strife: no
[09:29] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Though I've changed my source.list file now. But still its trying to copy the files from the CD. Should I remove the line completely ?
[09:29] <Pro_Newbie> How to install a *.deb package?
[09:29] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: i can't tell why that module does not load; rebooting is an option
[09:29] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, im gonna reboot then try those commands again as per described on the wiki                     ill brb
[09:29] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: i would
[09:29] <|stefan|> Pro_Newbie dpkg -i packagename
[09:29] <yahalom> anybody?
[09:29] <poningru> oh wait it is down
[09:29] <Strife> poningru: k, well I'm getting a "connection refused" error... I'll just try agin later, I guess
[09:29] <poningru> strife yes
[09:29] <damonw> |stefan|, yes you can still upgrade existing packages, but the ubuntu-base dpeendencies make it so the ubuntu devels can automatically install or uninstall packages as needed when you upgrade your whole system
[09:29] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Roger that. :)
[09:29] <Pro_Newbie> 10x |stefan|
[09:29] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: if fglrx is still in /etc/modules, it *should* load on boot
[09:29] <poningru> yahalom: whats the prob?
[09:29] <tobytwirl> it says cannot find package
[09:29] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, its there   ill brb
[09:29] <tobytwirl> ... for either
[09:30] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: Okay, i'll send you the file URL.
[09:30] <damonw> |stefan|, in general for a RELEASED version like hoary its ok to get rid of it
[09:30] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, if you do a lsmod, do you see ehci_hcd listed?
[09:30] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: Do a cd /
[09:30] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, its actually listed there 4 seperate times hehe    does that matter?
[09:30] <candrodor> (Psst, I think s/he means "separate")
[09:30] <yahalom> poningru, Could not connect to ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[09:30] <poningru> I think everything is down
[09:30] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: only once is fine
[09:30] <poningru> yahalom: its down
[09:30] <tobytwirl> done
[09:30] <mjkelly93> OK
[09:30] <|stefan|> damonw well i don't have any choise really =) i want to have sendmail instead of postfix. so then i have to get rid of it =)
[09:30] <poningru> try again later
[09:30] <HappyFool> seperate
[09:30] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: then do a mkdir sources && cd sources
[09:30] <candrodor> (Psst, I think s/he means "separate")
[09:30] <yahalom> poningru, the whole thing?
[09:30] <poningru> yep
[09:30] <HappyFool> what is this candrodor thing? another bot?
[09:30] <yahalom> poningru, how long already?
[09:30] <poningru> universe main everything
[09:30] <punkrockguy318> Where can I find a list of all packages installed in a normal hoary install?
[09:30] <poningru> no clue
[09:30] <damonw> |stefan|, that ok you should be fine
[09:31] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: then type this command exactly
[09:31] <DaZjorz> wget http://www.stack.nl/~brama/mp3blaster/src/mp3blaster-3.2.0.tar.gz
[09:31] <D1> does anyone know if OpenOffice has some sort of "CORRECTION MODE" of typing?
[09:31] <|stefan|> damonw ok =) thanks for your help.
[09:31] <poningru> D1: what do you mean?
[09:31] <poningru> as in auto correction?
[09:31] <D1> like all my text would be highlited red
[09:31] <D1> na
[09:31] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl: You should copy & paste that, if you are using SSH.
[09:31] <D1> I'm trying to peer edit a paper for a friend
[09:31] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: steady pm
[09:31] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: steady on, even
[09:31] <tICT_Noob> Hi all - does anyone have experience with wlans?
[09:31] <D1> and I want all my text to be autohighlighted red.
[09:31] <candrodor> This candrodor thing is I. I put the script up for some friends, to improve their spelling, and it works.
[09:31] <damonw> D1, yes you can
[09:31] <D1> do you know how, by any chance?
[09:32] <liroth> Okay. now THIS is weird.
[09:32] <Tsar_vonHumbug> tICT_Noob, yes, but not Linux specifically - wassup?
[09:32] <liroth> I got this USB 2.0 card
[09:32] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: mp3blaster is installable via apt - tobytwil just needs to setup his /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:32] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: ??
[09:32] <damonw> D1, turn on AutoSpellCheck
[09:32] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: How
[09:32] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, hey I'm back. I installe an USB 2.0 card.
[09:32] <tICT_Noob> got problems connecting with Hoary
[09:32] <tobytwirl> using f1  and now back to sources dir
[09:32] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl wait...
[09:32] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, try a lsmod & see if ehci_hcd is listed...
[09:32] <damonw> D1, are you using version 1.1.x or 2.0 beta?
[09:32] <DaZjorz> it seems you can download it via apt
[09:32] <D1> 2.0 beta
[09:32] <D1> I dont mean autocorrect grammer
[09:32] <candrodor> (Psst, I think s/he means "grammar")
[09:33] <D1> grammmar*
[09:33] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, but unfortunately it add's 2 1.1 UHCI for it...
[09:33] <DaZjorz> Tobytwirl Nvm. Did you download the file ?
[09:33] <tobytwirl> Not yet - waiting for the command you mentioned
[09:33] <DaZjorz> To finish?
[09:33] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, but it sais USB 2.0 hub, VIA82xxx USB 1.1 UHCI Device
[09:33] <Forty|> damnit
[09:33] <D1> I mean I'm correcting my friends paper and I want all my text to be red but I dont wannat keep pressing the highlight text color button
[09:33] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: same way you did -- uncomment lines n /etc/apt/sources.list, or use this:
[09:33] <HappyFool> !sources
[09:33] <ubotu> I guess sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories, or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:33] <damonw> D1, make sure you have all your "en" openoffice language packs installed in synaptic and your "en" myspell packages
[09:34] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, yes, it's a VIA chip I know. But why does it load the USB 1.1 driver than? makes no sense to me...
[09:34] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I'll just make him compile it. If that doesn't work, i'll try it that way.
[09:34] <tICT_Noob> have everything setup ndiswrapper & static IP - wireless card picks up network but stops there
[09:34] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: Finished yet?
[09:34] <damonw> D1, the auto spellcheck wont show the red highlighting when you print
[09:34] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, and ehci_hcd is loaded
[09:34] <robert_pectol> ... up and running with a brand new install of Ubuntu...  took about 1/2 hour to install and it recognized most all of my hardware!  nice!
[09:34] <tICT_Noob> cannot ping gateway or other local clients
[09:34] <elmagozizou> Does qtparted brings risk for my HD?? i mena because is unstable...
[09:34] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: on ubuntu it's generally preferred to install the deb - that way security fixes etc are installed automatically
[09:34] <damonw> D1, you'd need a macro, which could get complicated
[09:34] <liroth> Tsar_vonHumbug, ehci AND uhci...
[09:35] <D1> ok, thanks.
[09:35] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Ok. I'll try.
[09:35] <damonw> D1, you could check out oooforum.org
[09:35] <hussam> how can I tell the installation date as in when Hoary was installed on my computer?
[09:35] <D1> will do.
[09:35] <D1> thanks for the tip.
[09:35] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: You can cancel the download and do this command: "vi /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:35] <poningru> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars_ever
[09:35] <poningru> sorry wrong window
[09:35] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: Put a # in front of the first line that says ..
[09:36] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: don't forget sudo ;)
[09:36] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I guess he's root already..?
[09:36] <tobytwirl> download it into /sources #
[09:36] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: execute "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:36] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, modprobe didnt load any errors
[09:37] <DaZjorz> The first line should read: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[09:37] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl right ?
[09:37] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: or around that.
[09:37] <mjkelly93> it says the module was loaded
[09:37] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: cool
[09:37] <mjkelly93> in kern.log
[09:37] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: push "i" and then place a # in front of the line.
[09:38] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: Then delete the #'s in front of the lines like deb ***
[09:38] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: now you just need to tweak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:38] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: like this line: deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted universe
[09:38] <tobytwirl> yes - got loads of stuff on the screen ...
[09:38] <tICT_Noob> Tsar_vonHumbug, ever seen a conflict with dhcp in linux with wireless?
[09:38] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: you need to change 'ati' to 'fglrx'
[09:38] <tobytwirl> yes line similar to that
[09:38] <DaZjorz> TobyTwirl: Private conversation could be handier.
[09:38] <tobytwirl> OK let's do it
[09:39] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, im gonna do that right now,  modprobe and depmod both ran smoothly
[09:39] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: you should not need to run those again, especially if fglrx is listed in /etc/modules
[09:39] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: I fail opening a private conversation with TobyTwirl :S
[09:39] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: just use /query tobytwirl
[09:39] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: don't bother with dcc
[09:40] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, ok      well kern.log says it loaded, modprobe says its loaded, ubuntu says its the correct version and has been verified to work on my radeon 9250, all i gotta do is restart now, wish me luck ill be back in 2 minutes
[09:40] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: also, you don't need to reboot again. let me know when you've tweaked xorg
[09:40] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: woah ;)
[09:40] <mjkelly93> HappyFool,  :)
[09:40] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: have you tweaked xorg.conf ?
[09:40] <knowledge_> where can I get information on how to install the latest kernel?
[09:40] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, yes    im gonna shut down gdm and restart it
[09:40] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: ok
[09:40] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, brb
[09:41] <Maddy> knowledge_, for ubuntu or generally?
[09:41] <OdiiN> and ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[09:41] <knowledge_> Ububtu
[09:41] <aeolist> i have installed the nvidia drivers and followed ubuntuguides guidelines... should my xorg.conf have Driver "nv" or Driver "nvidia" written?
[09:41] <james_> Where would I go about finding support for using Wine? im having trouble running an application that I know should be supported?
[09:41] <OdiiN> mjkelly93:  please, try to play a video when had fglrx driver loaded, i have poor performance with this drivers in a 9800
[09:41] <Maddy> synaptic
[09:41] <knowledge_> I tried but when I load that kernel it says "kernel panic" something yadda yadda
[09:41] <Maddy> james_, ubuntuguide.org
[09:41] <HappyFool> james_: /join #winehq
[09:41] <james_> Thanks :)
[09:41] <mjkelly93> ok OdiiN ill let ya know how it goes
[09:41] <azambuja> hi
[09:41] <azambuja> i have just one simple question
[09:41] <poningru> I had a question for Mathew Garret
[09:42] <cat> azambuja: ask
[09:42] <azambuja> can i install KDE on ubuntu after, in my HD?
[09:42] <othernoob> azambuja: yes
[09:42] <azambuja> or i have to download Kubuntu?
[09:42] <HappyFool> aeolist: nvidia
[09:42] <azambuja> i want to use both gnome and kde
[09:42] <aeolist> okie
[09:42] <aeolist> thanks
[09:42] <poningru> is laptop support for compaq come under HP support?
[09:42] <HappyFool> azambuja: you can install kubuntu-desktop after installing -- that will give you kde too
[09:42] <knowledge_> Maddy, ubuntuguide.org will explain it?
[09:42] <concept10> Has anyone noticed that firefox brings pages up slower in Linux than the windows version?
[09:42] <azambuja> othernoob: thanks
[09:42] <othernoob> azambuja: you're welcome
[09:42] <azambuja> HappyFool: by apt-get?
[09:43] <azambuja> HappyFool: cant i apt-get kde directly?
[09:43] <HappyFool> azambuja: yip. or synaptic
[09:43] <Maddy> i have my informations about wine from ubuntuguide
[09:43] <aeolist> concept10, you can make some changes to firefox, read the ubuntuguide part about ff
[09:43] <jimcooncat> concept10, have you disabled IPV6 lookups?
[09:43] <Maddy> IMHO
[09:43] <concept10> jimcooncat, aeolist : I have disabled those, but I will check again
[09:43] <azambuja> HappyFool: ok, ill try it :-) im a gentoo user
[09:43] <ValheruLord> was anybody able to configure the modem: Zoom 5510 USB
[09:43] <HappyFool> azambuja: i don't follow 'kde directly' -- assuming you have the diskspace and bandwidth, i'd just install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[09:43] <Forty|> is there anyway to force eject a cdrom?
[09:44] <azambuja> HappyFool: ok, i mean pure KDE, i guess Kubuntu-desktop comes with more than just "pure" kde
[09:44] <damonw> Forty|, use a paper clip in the little hole next to the eject button :)
[09:44] <azambuja> HappyFool: got me?
[09:44] <othernoob> Forty|: sudo umount -l /dev/hdX  or sudo umount -f /dev/hdX to unmount the drive
[09:45] <HappyFool> azambuja: there's a kde-core, which might be what you want, but i'm not sure -- i don't use kde
[09:45] <ValheruLord> was anybody able to configure the adsl modem: Zoom 5510 USB ??
[09:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> DOES anyone know whether gnome will eventually have "program menu in panel" mode, like in Mac OS and KDE?
[09:45] <concept10> jimcooncat, I have cable internet, I havent used windows in a long time, but this morning I booted windows to do something and those pages were flying in firefox
[09:45] <raven3x7> i just installed nvidia-glx. but only get a blck screen
[09:46] <Tsar_vonHumbug> liroth, the uhci is needed - apparently ehci supports only high speed
[09:46] <cat> raven3x7: TRY configuring the X for a fact,
[09:46] <damonw> concept10, http://ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefasterfirefox
[09:46] <knowledge_> has anyone patched their kernel with the alps.patch file?
[09:46] <damonw> knowledge_, I run breezy with the following info
[09:46] <damonw> and my touchpad works finew
[09:46] <raven3x7> cat what do you mean?
[09:46] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: What is the name of the package mp3blaster ?
[09:47] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: mp3blaster
[09:47] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: just mp3blaster or something else
[09:47] <knowledge_> well mine does too, however I would like the extra features like scrolling and such
[09:47] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: you can search apt using 'apt-cache search <search-string>'  (no <>)
[09:47] <jimcooncat> Hi, am playing with bricolage-cms. I want to have it start up with init.d, but I need to "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/perl5/auto/libapreq/" before I can start it. Where can I put this environment variable to be set?
[09:47] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, didnt work, it hung like usual
[09:47] <damonw> knowledge_, to get scrolling etc to work go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28132
[09:48] <HappyFool> jimcooncat: are you writing an init script for it?
[09:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> there are two beautiful yellow and black butterflies outside my apartment in san francisco, doing this mating chase thing in the sun.
[09:48] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: hmm
[09:48] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, hmmm is right    wtf   =(   i had my hopes up there
[09:48] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Couldn't find package
[09:48] <knowledge_> damonw, Tried that, but I get errors
[09:48] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: sorry. have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log  ?
[09:48] <concept10> Yep, I already had all of those changed in firefox
[09:48] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: it's in 'universe'
[09:48] <raven3x7> cat if you mean editing i've been playing with it for hours trying to find an error
[09:48] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, it hangs before it gets to write to the log, ive tried like 5 different ways to get to read that but it doesnt get to write to it
[09:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just upgraded my kernel, and although esd seems like it's working fine, i'm getting no sound.. :(
[09:49] <jimcooncat> I thought I'd modify the init script for it, but maybe I need to be looking at apache? I don't get the envrionment here, like I could with gentoo
[09:49] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: don't forget to run 'apt-get update' before trying to install
[09:49] <damonw> knowledge_, are you running hoary or breezy?
[09:49] <raven3x7> xorg conf that is
[09:49] <knowledge_> ummm.....5.04
[09:49] <knowledge_> ?
[09:49] <damonw> thats hoary
[09:49] <knowledge_> I see
[09:49] <knowledge_> there's a new version out already?
[09:49] <damonw> it's a testing version ("breezy")
[09:49] <knowledge_> I see
[09:50] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, i think im just about out of ideas    i just cant see whats going wrong?
[09:50] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: i'm out of ideas too, sorry.
[09:50] <damonw> knowledge_, This is how I got it working with scroll, etc on breezy, you could try it :) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48257
[09:51] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, can u think of anywhere else i can get advice?
[09:51] <azambuja> HappyFool: ok, but kde-ubuntu will give me kde and gnome on my machine, right?
[09:51] <azambuja> HappyFool: assuming im installig ubuntu
[09:51] <DaZjorz> I gotta go, won't be back in 3 weeks :(
[09:51] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: ubuntuforums, and the mailing lists
[09:51] <DaZjorz> cya
[09:51] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: cheers
[09:52] <HappyFool> !ubuntuforums
[09:52] <ubotu> HappyFool: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:52] <HappyFool> hmm
[09:52] <Seveas> ubotu, no
[09:52] <ubotu> Seveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:52] <Seveas> ehm...
[09:52] <Seveas> :)
[09:52] <knowledge_> damonw, Thanks, I'll look into it...I'll be back after to let you guys know how it went
[09:52] <Tsar_vonHumbug> later peeps
[09:52] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, i tried ubuntuforums like 3 times but noone there helped
[09:52] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: ok, the mailing list. standby
[09:52] <knowledge_> I was trying to install a new kernel but that didn't work out
[09:53] <knowledge_> I guess I"ll just do this for now and see how it goes
[09:53] <looksaus> hm, minor problem here
[09:53] <damonw> knowledge_, good luck I hope it works
[09:53] <HappyFool> knowledge_: note that breezy is still in testing, and may break in unexpected ways
[09:54] <damonw> HappyFool, I think he's gonna try it in Hoary
[09:54] <damonw> HappyFool, but good advice =)
[09:54] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, ok   i dont know what that is so ill wait for ya here   just lemme know
[09:54] <HappyFool> ubotu, ubuntuforums is an Ubuntu web forum at http://ubuntuforums.org/
[09:54] <ubotu> HappyFool: okay
[09:54] <looksaus> I accidentally removed the kernel image from a system I crossgraded from Knoppix
[09:54] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: finding the mailing list address
[09:54] <looksaus> (which is why there was no error message, presumably)
[09:54] <looksaus> I wonder about the best way to get going again
[09:55] <jasoncohen> last night my root file system died on me. it was an LVM2 ext3 partition. there were unrecoverable FS errors and i couldn't fsck manually. i decided to re-install the system using regular ext3 partitions which i did. however, now, i can't update my menus with smeg. smeg shows my old menus with the customizations i made but they aren't being saved.
[09:55] <looksaus> system boots lilo fine, and an initrd kernel
[09:55] <looksaus> but chokes after that
[09:55] <mjkelly93> HappyFool, ok  im gonna register at linuxquestions.org and try there too
[09:55] <looksaus> any suggestions to remedy this welcome
[09:55] <jasoncohen> i.e - when i exit smeg, the changes don't take affect. smeg used to use 100% cpu while it was updating the menus. now it doesnt' do that so I'm assuming it's doing nothing
[09:55] <Seveas> HappyFool, lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[09:56] <HappyFool> mjkelly93: look here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/lists  or look at Seveas' URL
[09:57] <raven3x7> this is really weird... i have nvidia glx installed but in xorg.log it says it cant find the nvidia X driver...
[09:58] <knowledge_> damonw,
[09:58] <HappyFool> raven3x7: is the module loaded?
[09:58] <QaDeS_> hiyas
[09:58] <HappyFool> raven3x7: what does 'lsmod|grep ^nvidia' say ?
[09:58] <mjkelly93> HappyFool,  ok thanks again
[09:58] <knowledge_> the only thing I'm running into is something about "...to default locale: No such file or directory"
[09:58] <to|m> does there exist an equalizer for Rhythembox?
[09:58] <raven3x7> dunno... should have thought about that. it's nvidia-glx right?
[09:59] <HappyFool> raven3x7: the kernel module seems to be called simply 'nvidia'
[09:59] <QaDeS_> i just installed ubuntu as a server, but it didn't ask for a root password...is there a default or something?
[09:59] <jasoncohen> nevermind, apparently i just had to restart gnome
[09:59] <raven3x7> HappyFool,  nvidia               3923388  0
[10:00] <HappyFool> QaDeS_: ubuntu uses sudo; you can read about it here:
[10:00] <HappyFool> !sudo
[10:00] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:00] <HappyFool> raven3x7: hmm
[10:00] <QaDeS_> o.O
[10:01] <raven3x7> HappyFool, the exact line (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[10:01] <HappyFool> raven3x7: what does 'dpkg -l nvidia-glx|tail -1' say ?
[10:02] <jtg> can anyone help with totem? get "could not read from resource" when trying to play dvd
[10:02] <raven3x7> HappyFool, ii  nvidia-glx     1.0.7174-0ubun NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[10:02] <ray_> i thought ubuntu used xorg
[10:03] <OdiiN> hoary
[10:03] <HappyFool> it does; that is evidently a generic driver. Mine says the same
[10:03] <raven3x7> ray_, hoary does
[10:03] <Arkainium> hmm.. anyone know if windows xp can be installed on an extended partition?
[10:03] <ray_> raven3x7, is xorg better?
[10:03] <HappyFool> raven3x7: it sounds like you've done all the right things
[10:03] <xry> how do i play WMV in ubuntu?
[10:03] <QaDeS_> ok, got it. so how do i install grub the easy way? :o>
[10:03] <ray_> xry, get the w32codecs
[10:04] <raven3x7> HappyFool, yeah i've done this before. first time on xorg though
[10:04] <xry> couldnt find the package
[10:04] <HappyFool> !restricted
[10:04] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:04] <raven3x7> ray_, xorg is newer and should have a lot of improvements
[10:04] <HappyFool> xry: read that URL -- should tell you how
[10:04] <ray_> xry, u need to add the backports to your apt list
[10:05] <koldun> hi there
[10:05] <HappyFool> QaDeS_: why do you need to install grub? You overwrote your mbr with windows?
[10:05] <ray_> xry, hold on i will copy and pastes what they are
[10:05] <knowledge_> So, anyone know wanna help me with yet another error?
[10:05] <koldun> i've got problem with fglrx_xgamma someone here how can help me
[10:05] <koldun> i've got problem with fglrx_xgamma
[10:06] <HappyFool> raven3x7: there are no other errors reported?
[10:06] <koldun> fglrx_xgamma: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_gamma.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:06] <ray_> koldun, what are you trying to do?
[10:06] <koldun>  <-- but fglrx-dev is installed and the shared object is in /usr/X11R6/lib/
[10:06] <koldun> and the driver works
[10:06] <raven3x7> HappyFool, no but let me check again
[10:07] <QaDeS_> HappyFool, naw, i just don't want to have lilo as my loader
[10:07] <koldun> fglrx sais that the card works
[10:07] <koldun> fglrxinfo
[10:07] <koldun> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:07] <koldun> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[10:07] <koldun> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9200 Series DDR Generic
[10:07] <koldun> OpenGL version string: 1.3.4769 (X4.3.0-8.8.25)
[10:07] <HappyFool> QaDeS_: um. i don't actually know how to install grub like that, but i guess something like 'apt-get install grub'
[10:07] <ray_> xry, deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:07] <ray_> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:07] <knowledge_> well, I'll just kick back and wait for someone to come up with time to help
[10:08] <QaDeS_> yea. alas, it doesn't automagically create the menu.lst :o/
[10:08] <HappyFool> QaDeS_: do you have some sort of custom install? ubuntu-base is dependent on grub, so you should have it
[10:08] <HappyFool> QaDeS_: ah
[10:08] <raven3x7> HappyFool, only found this warning (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory) and a couple more about fonts
[10:08] <HappyFool> QaDeS_: try 'update-grub'
[10:08] <QaDeS_> interesting...it booted from lilo o.O
[10:09] <QaDeS_> oh cool :oD txvm
[10:09] <ray_> xry, u got that?
[10:09] <xry> yes
[10:09] <HappyFool> QaDeS_: you'll also need to run 'install-grub /dev/hdXXXX' -- do be careful though ;) and don't screw up your hard-drives
[10:09] <xry> im downloading the package
[10:09] <HappyFool> raven3x7: hrm
[10:09] <koldun> can someone help me with this wicked fglrx_xgamma problem?
[10:09] <QaDeS_> we'll see ;)
[10:09] <koldun> sorry for paste
[10:10] <pax> # grub-install --root-directory=/boot   /dev/hda   (exemple)
[10:10] <ray_> xry, after u get that i would remove the backports from your apt list. some packages have caused me problems
[10:10] <Jeran> hi
[10:10] <pax> then # update-grub
[10:10] <ray_> hello
[10:10] <QaDeS_> ok *trying*
[10:11] <HappyFool> koldun: try 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib flgrx_xgamma'
[10:11] <Kyral> anyone know how to escape a : on the command line?
[10:11] <HappyFool> knowledge_: it's usually best just to ask the question, regardless of how busy things are ;). What's the problem?
[10:12] <HappyFool> Kyral: \: ?
[10:12] <Kyral> Tried it
[10:12] <Kyral> mkdir Mobile\ Suit\ Gundam\:\ MS\ IGLOO
[10:12] <Kyral> mkdir: cannot create directory `Mobile Suit Gundam: MS IGLOO': Invalid argument
[10:12] <OdiiN> what settings needed for allow dcc resume downloads in konversation, i cant configure it propertly ( i use firestarter and i'm behind a router )
[10:12] <HappyFool> Kyral: is this maybe on a fat32 partition?
[10:12] <Kyral> yah :D
[10:12] <HappyFool> Kyral: i would guess colons can't be used there -- think C:
[10:13] <QaDeS> when i perform grub-install it tries to access my fd0 and xields an error :o/
[10:13] <Kyral> Fscking hell
[10:13] <HappyFool> QaDeS: did you see pax's command ?
[10:13] <Whistler> how can i change grub settings?
[10:13] <HappyFool> Whistler: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  (probably what you want)
[10:13] <QaDeS> yea, that's whyt i tried to execute
[10:14] <HappyFool> QaDeS: what's the error?
[10:14] <QaDeS> ok, got it
[10:15] <QaDeS> --no-floppy did it :oD
[10:15] <pax> update-grub wont probably create a complete menu.list on a mulitiboot system, but it will enable you to boot into linux. then you can add your other operating system to menu.list
[10:15] <Kyral> oyah, because I could set the umask and uid easy :D
[10:15] <raven3x7> brb
[10:15] <memin> Hello people
[10:15] <QaDeS> tyvm pax and HappyFool
[10:15] <xry> what about mplayer? which source can i get that from?
[10:15] <koldun> HappyFool, thank you it works well
[10:15] <koldun> :)
[10:16] <memin> Has anybody try to make a cutomized bootable cd fom ubuntu?
[10:16] <carambol> add multiverse to ur repo
[10:16] <carambol> xry
[10:16] <HappyFool> koldun: you can add that path to /etc/ld.so.conf and then run 'sudo ldconfig' so that you don't need to do that LD_LIB..= thing everytime
[10:17] <imaek> I have a nVidia GeForce 6600, and when I was installing ubuntu, it asked me what resolutions my video card could handle.  I left it at the defaults, and now I am stuck with the highest resolution being 1024x768, which is too small.  Now, I tried "sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg", but every time I do that and restart XServer, I get my monitor informing me that something is out of sync.  Is there any surefire way to just add 1
[10:17] <imaek>  resolution?
[10:17] <knowledge_> HappyFool, is it possible to post a few lines of an error message?
[10:17] <HappyFool> knowledge_: on a pastebin, preferably
[10:17] <HappyFool> knowledge_:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:18] <koldun> cool thank you HappyFool
[10:18] <xry> carambol: but i did :(
[10:18] <QaDeS> umm...could it be grub doesn't support xfs boot partitions?
[10:18] <xry> cant find the package
[10:18] <knowledge_> HappyFool, ok, done
[10:18] <OdiiN> imaek:  check if in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , the horitzontal and vertical sync of your monitor are configured propertly
[10:18] <HappyFool> QaDeS: there's a 'xfs_stage1_5' in my /boot/grub, so i think it (probably?) should
[10:19] <carambol> apt-get install mplayer-386 mozilla-mplayer mplayer-fonts
[10:19] <ray_> xry, get xine-ui
[10:20] <imaek> OdiiN: they are right now, but it is working in 1024x768 right now.
[10:20] <jtg> Hi, I need a hand with Totem to play DVDs any offers
[10:20] <knowledge_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/624 <---that's my problem
[10:20] <HappyFool> knowledge_: i think this might be fixable using dpkg-reconfigure
[10:20] <HappyFool> knowledge_: hold on just a sec
[10:20] <knowledge_> ok
[10:20] <koldun> Thank you for the help
[10:20] <koldun> cu
[10:21] <leroj> hallo pmMike
[10:21] <xry> the package xine-ui doesn't have a installationcandidate
[10:21] <imaek> OdiiN: I also added "1280x1024" to the Modes section for each depth, but that choice isn't in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[10:21] <robotgeek> jtg: why don't you use vlc?
[10:22] <ray_> xry, really? did u uncomment the universe
[10:22] <OdiiN> imaek:  you want to set up at 800x600 ?
[10:22] <jtg> robotgeek: I just started with Ubuntu and Totamis the
[10:22] <HappyFool> knowledge_: hmm. ok, i'm not 100%, but i think what you need to do is generate the files for your locale
[10:23] <imaek> OdiiN: no, I'd like something Larger than 1024x768 (like 1280x1024)
[10:23] <jorgp> is it possible to convert kubuntu back to ubuntu?
[10:23] <HappyFool> knowledge_: to do this, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locals'
[10:23] <kdp> how would i configure my modem through the Network settings menu if it was connected to PCI slot 2?
[10:23] <QaDeS> to be prepared for my notebook isntall...will ubuntu support 1280x800 out of the box? or recognize it after the nvidia install?
[10:23] <HappyFool> knowledge_: to do this, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'
[10:23] <crimsun> jorgp: install ubuntu-desktop
[10:23] <jtg> robotgeek: sorry Totem is the default viewer. It recognises the dvd but I get a "could notread fromresource" error
[10:24] <HappyFool> knowledge_: you'll get one helluva list -- find en_US.UTF-8 and make sure it's selected
[10:24] <jorgp> I want to switch to gnome instead of kde
[10:24] <ray_> jorgp, dont like kubuntu?
[10:24] <kdp> the autodetect function says it cant find the modem
[10:24] <xry> ray_: i found it now
[10:24] <xry> what now?
[10:24] <robotgeek> jtg: do u have the libdvdcss library, i am not sure if that is what's it called!
[10:24] <ray_> xry, it should work
[10:24] <poningru> hey who do I contact about the bounties?
[10:24] <knowledge_> HappyFool, "locals is not installed"
[10:24] <jorgp> ray_: no
[10:24] <HappyFool> knowledge_: yeah, i made an error
[10:24] <HappyFool> knowledge_: locales
[10:25] <ray_> jorgp, why not..... just curious
[10:25] <HappyFool> poningru: isn't there a web-site for those?
[10:25] <knowledge_> HappyFool, "locales is broken or not fully installed"
[10:25] <HappyFool> knowledge_: erk
[10:25] <knowledge_> uh huh
[10:25] <HappyFool> knowledge_: you're running hoary?
[10:25] <jtg> robotgeek:I've got the gstreamstuff, I'll check on libdvdcss, hang on ...
[10:25] <jorgp> my wife likes gnome better, and kde just seems unfinished
[10:25] <knowledge_> yup
[10:25] <HappyFool> knowledge_: default install
[10:25] <knowledge_> uh huh
[10:25] <HappyFool> knowledge_: err, that was a question ;) -- the default install ?
[10:25] <HappyFool> ok
[10:26] <ray_> yeah kde needs some tweaking
[10:26] <jorgp> ray_: but all I had at the time was a kubuntu cd
[10:26] <jorgp> ray_: and have been waiting on ubuntu cd's for about 6 weeks
[10:26] <knowledge_> HappyFool, yeah, default install
[10:26] <amortal_mistake> anybody ever have a problem where nxclient(freeNX) just shows up as a blank xmessage with an ok box?
[10:26] <ray_> jorgp, yeah ne too!
[10:26] <jorgp> ray_: so I wanted to convert this kubuntu to ubuntu, I heard the gnome desktop is nice
[10:27] <HappyFool> knowledge_: um. let's try 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo aptitude reinstall locales'  and see if that works
[10:27] <Jeran> Any idea on how long the CD's might take to get to the USA?
[10:27] <xry> ray_: i want to play WMV in Firefox
[10:27] <xry> what to do?
[10:27] <knowledge_> HappyFool, how would I be able to save my settings and installed programs but reinstall the base system so all these files can be included
[10:27] <ray_> xry, it still doesnt?
[10:27] <HappyFool> knowledge_: um. i'm not following what you want to do
[10:28] <jorgp> Jeran: it's been 6 weeks here Oklahoma
[10:28] <jtg> robotgeek: mmmmm doesnt look like it is there?
[10:28] <knowledge_> reinstall ubuntu, but keep all my settings and progs
[10:28] <xry> firefox says: additional plugins needs to install
[10:28] <HappyFool> knowledge_: hmm. not very easy. you could try backing up your home directory and /etc, but that tends to be messy
[10:28] <xry> and if i try manual install, it sends me to microsoft.com
[10:29] <sJaM> you can do with most packages
[10:29] <sJaM> apt-get install --reinstall
[10:29] <HappyFool> knowledge_: if you really want to reinstall, i'd backup only your user data (pictures, mail, blah blah) and reinstall and then reconfigure/restore user data
[10:29] <toolaphial> xry: install mplayer with win32 codecs
[10:29] <ray_> xry, sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[10:29] <xry> but i can't find the mplayer codec
[10:29] <carambol> xry you need w32 codecs
[10:29] <knowledge_> I see
[10:29] <xry> i have w32codecs
[10:29] <ray_> yeah either get mplayer or use mozilla-plugin-vlc
[10:29] <lin_> Question about muddleftp................
[10:30] <carine_> hello! :) can someone help me please I have a serious problem with my external hard drive. I am a complete newbie I don't know what to do
[10:30] <benplaut> carine_: what's thew problem? :)
[10:31] <knowledge_> HappyFool, locales is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled.
[10:31] <HappyFool> knowledge_: ok, 'sudo aptitude install locales'
[10:31] <carine_> hi :) I installed my external hard drive and at the beggining I didn't have any problems. In fact ubuntu recognised it. Now it doesn't allow me to modify files and folders
[10:32] <knowledge_> I see....
[10:32] <ray_> permissions
[10:32] <carine_> the problems started a week after using it
[10:32] <HappyFool> knowledge_: that's pretty weird - libc6 dependent on locales
[10:32] <knowledge_> HappyFool, can I use that pastebin thingy again?
[10:32] <sJaM> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:32] <Jeran> Is Ubuntu a good thing to use when trying to switch from Windows to Linux?
[10:32] <HappyFool> knowledge_: sure
[10:32] <ray_> yes it is a very good thing
[10:32] <HappyFool> knowledge_: something is screwy with your system
[10:32] <knowledge_> of course, it's just my luck
[10:32] <knowledge_> Mandrake..!?....mann that os sucked on ANY of my computers
[10:33] <ray_> xry, did it work
[10:33] <HappyFool> carine_: you probably need to tweak /etc/fstab
[10:33] <knowledge_> then I switched to this, and it's a helluva lot better
[10:33] <Jeran> is Ubuntu 'Laptop' safe?
[10:33] <jorgp> how is breezy coming along?
[10:33] <ray_> i hate mandrake
[10:33] <HappyFool> carine_: maybe you can paste your current /etc/fstab here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:33] <carine_> okay one minute
[10:33] <jorgp> Jeran: I dont think ubuntu will prevent someone from stealing your laptop
[10:33] <knowledge_> HappyFool, posted on pastebin
[10:34] <HappyFool> knowledge_: it's busy loading
[10:34] <HappyFool> knowledge_: erm
[10:34] <knowledge_> oh
[10:34] <knowledge_> {singing} telll me something gooodd....
[10:34] <ray_> Jeran, an even better choice if coming from windows is kubuntu
[10:35] <Jeran> jorgp: I mean will it work on my laptop? I know some version of linux don't like laptops.. I don't think ubuntu is going to eletrify my laptop and make it zap everyone, except me, that touch it :-P
[10:35] <xry> thanks
[10:35] <HappyFool> knowledge_: what does 'dpkg -l "glibc*"|grep ^ii' say ?
[10:35] <ray_> xry, it worked?
[10:35] <knowledge_> HappyFool, nothing
[10:35] <jorgp> Jeran: will it works perfectly on my laptop
[10:36] <HappyFool> knowledge_: um, ok, how about 'dpkg -l "libc6"|tail -1'  ?
[10:36] <jorgp> ray_: what do you like about kubuntu?
[10:36] <knowledge_> ohh, wait....do I have to uninstall those packs? because I think I installed the newest libc6.....but I forgot what it was for
[10:36] <knowledge_> oh yeah, my fan control on my lappy toppy
[10:37] <HappyFool> knowledge_: how did you upgrade libc6?
[10:37] <knowledge_> ii  libc6          2.3.5-1ubuntu7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
[10:37] <knowledge_> just installed the newest package
[10:37] <ray_> jorgp, it looks better and you can use sound in multiple apps... better control...menu control etc
[10:37] <HappyFool> knowledge_: oh my
[10:37] <HappyFool> knowledge_: you've got breezy libc6 ?
[10:37] <robotgeek_> jtg, sorry...back now
[10:37] <knowledge_> oh goody...that's always a good reaction
[10:37] <knowledge_> I have no clue happy
[10:37] <elmagozizou> does anyone use mplayer with nvidia drives installed?
[10:37] <HappyFool> knowledge_: i'm not sure how you should proceed
[10:38] <ray_> i use it with fglrx
[10:38] <knowledge_> can I msg you?
[10:38] <HappyFool> knowledge_: sure
[10:38] <carine_> here is my etc/fstab http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/626
[10:38] <raven3x7> HappyFool, i ran a dpkg-reconfigure. the error in the log is gone but i still get a black screen. no errors reported!
[10:38] <HappyFool> carine_: hmm -- your external drive is usb?
[10:38] <carine_> yes
[10:39] <QaDeS> yay, it's bootin :oD
[10:39] <robotgeek_> jtg, libdvdcss2  is the name of the debian package
[10:40] <robotgeek_> jtg, oops..ubuntu :)
[10:40] <Jeran> I'm looking at the screenshots and so far I like what I see
[10:40] <mitch528> hi
[10:41] <HappyFool> raven3x7: sorry, i'm more-or-less out of ideas. i think you may be stuck with nv drivers for now. I can only point you to ubuntuforums and the mailing lists
[10:41] <raven3x7> elmagozizou, are you getting a signal 11 from audio_decode
[10:41] <mitch528> Can anyone help me setup a FTP SERVER on ubuntu?
[10:42] <robotgeek_> mitch528, sure...
[10:42] <HappyFool> carine_: sorry, i'm kind of multitasking here
[10:42] <raven3x7> HappyFool, thanks for the try. will sent a mail to the list
[10:42] <elmagozizou> #5 raven3x7 , what do you mean?
[10:42] <robotgeek_> mitch528, sudo apt-get install ftpd
[10:42] <HappyFool> carine_: can you plug the drive in (if it isn't) and paste output of the command 'mount' to the pastebin? the /etc/fstab was a red herring, my apologies
[10:42] <apollo2011> I have a Dell Inspiron 8600 and I installed Ubuntu on it and used ndiswrapper to get the broadcom card working and Ubuntu froze when I ejected it from the dock without going into standby or turning off and now I can't boot it.
[10:42] <robotgeek_> mitch528, and done!
[10:42] <mitch528> thank you rpbotgeek
[10:43] <mitch528> robotgeek*
[10:43] <raven3x7> im getting that with nv drivers during dvd playback. didnt get it with the vesa ones
[10:43] <robotgeek_> mitch528, no probs :)
[10:43] <mitch528> robotgeek it says Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock     and some other stuff....
[10:44] <robotgeek_> mitch528, are you root?? "sudo apt-get install ftpd"
[10:44] <carine_> okay, one minute
[10:44] <mitch528> i have sudo privlages
[10:44] <OdiiN> what settings are needed for allow dcc resume downloads in konversation, i can't configure it propertly ( i use firestarter and i'm behind a router )
[10:44] <kbrooks> ftpd is insecure
[10:44] <kbrooks> mitch528, close down synaptic
[10:44] <carine_> here it is: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/627
[10:44] <mitch528> ok
[10:44] <mitch528> done
[10:45] <carine_> and there's no problem, happyfool. take your time :)
[10:45] <mitch528> now it says Couldn't find package ftpd
[10:45] <robotgeek_> kbrooks, is pro-ftpd a better choice?
[10:45] <spiral> vsftpd
[10:45] <kbrooks> robotgeek_, yes
[10:45] <kbrooks> spiral, no
[10:46] <spiral> kbrooks: even kernel.org uses it
[10:46] <mitch528> ok
[10:46] <HappyFool> carine_: ok. what is the output of 'id -u' (not run as root) ? It looks like the device is being 'given' to the user with uid 1000, which is the first user created (during install, probably)
[10:46] <DukGalNamu> hey all, is there a video player that can run without x?
[10:46] <tfort> anyone here using point2play or cedega?
[10:46] <ray_> mplayer
[10:46] <ray_> maybe
[10:46] <mitch528> when i try to connect to myself it says this ftp server is anonymous only Login Failed.
[10:46] <robotgeek_> mitch528, are you configuring a ftp server for ur laptop or so?
[10:46] <mitch528> laptop
[10:46] <DukGalNamu> i think mplayer needs x...
[10:47] <crimsun> mplayer can output to framebuffer
[10:47] <DukGalNamu> framebuffer?
[10:47] <crimsun> directfb
[10:47] <robotgeek_> mitch528, one sec...lemme pull up my conf
[10:47] <mitch528> ok.
[10:47] <ray_> why dont you want it to play in x
[10:47] <carine_> HappyFool: I have no idea what Id-u is. my username for my ubuntu installation is carine
[10:47] <DukGalNamu> its not i am just wondering if i can run entirely by command line, including media...
[10:48] <HappyFool> carine_: 'id -u' is a command to run in the terminal -- like mount
[10:48] <carine_> ooh ok. let me check :)
[10:48] <HappyFool> carine_: however, don't open a 'Root terminal' -- just a normal one
[10:48] <DukGalNamu> crimsun: so i CAN play mplayer without x?
[10:48] <crimsun> DukGalNamu: yes, you just need to use a version of mplayer compiled with directfb support enabled
[10:48] <carine_> id -u is: 0
[10:48] <robotgeek_> mitch528, edit the /etc/ftpusers file
[10:49] <DukGalNamu> crimsun: COOL
[10:49] <mitch528> ok