[00:00] <sebsebseb> disregardthat: ok good luck!
[00:01] <disregardthat> thx ;)
[00:02] <sebsebseb> disregardthat: np
[00:06] <pronub> how i shot ubuntu
[00:06] <akraft> I have a brand-new install, and I don't seem to be getting usb support. Is this a common problem, and how can I fix it?
[00:06] <pronub> akraft: im not sure, im pretty new myself
[00:06] <pronub> have you checked the man pageS?
[00:07] <pronub> also, i was gonna instal ubuntu to protect myself from the conficker worm, is this a good idea?
[00:07] <iceroot> akraft: usb enabled in bios? onboard usb?
[00:07] <Ropechoborra> !usb | akraft
[00:07] <iceroot> pronub: its always a good idea to install linux
[00:07] <Ropechoborra> Uhmm i guess that was not what you wanted :$ Sorry
[00:07] <iceroot> pronub: there are no viruses for linux
[00:07] <amgarchIn9> pronub: too late it alreadyy first of april
[00:07] <akraft> iceroot, it's onboard, I guess it could be disabled in bios somehow
[00:07] <iceroot> akraft: then look there
[00:08] <Flannel> akraft: What do you mean by USB support?
[00:08] <bruce89> sebsebseb: WORKSFORME
[00:08] <pronub> amgarchIn9: not in my country brother
[00:08] <akraft> flannel: I mean usb devices don't work, and lsusb doesn't give me any output
[00:08] <PC16-Sala3-381> hola
[00:08] <pronub> so if i download linux i can watch all the free porn i want
[00:08] <Ropechoborra> !es PC16-Sala3-381
[00:08] <akraft> that's the extent of my knowledge to diagnose the problem
[00:08] <pronub> and no viruses rite
[00:09] <Flannel> pronub: Is there a support question we can help you with today?
[00:09] <pronub> Flannel: tryin to figure out if linux is the rite choice for me
[00:09] <zhurai> pronub: there are viruses, just not many, as most people are on windows, so that's what is mostly hit with virii
[00:09] <pronub> yea im glad i dont have windows
[00:09] <pronub> i am pretty good with the BSD environment, although i do run mac
[00:10] <zhurai> especially there is an April 1st virus going around I hear
[00:10] <pronub> weird
[00:10] <disregardthat> Oooh!
[00:10] <disregardthat> Thanks for reminding me.
[00:10] <zhurai> ?
[00:10] <pronub> anyways, i am getting pretty darn good at modding my os x
[00:10] <disregardthat> I want to watch the Windows users suffer.
[00:10] <Flannel> pronub: Please stay on topic.  This channel is for Ubuntu support.
[00:10] <disregardthat> :P
[00:10] <pronub> Flannel: i am being on topic
[00:10]  * otm is burning BT3 to get revenge on #remote-exploit
[00:10] <disregardthat> Right, Ubuntu support.
[00:10] <zhurai> disregardthat: LOL, true
[00:11] <disregardthat> Hald isn't recognizing my mouse or keyboard.
[00:11] <pronub> so back to it
[00:11] <pronub> how 'mod-able' is ubuntu
[00:11] <Chousuke> pronub: Linux distros are not immune to malware, but getting hit by one is much less likely than on Windows.
[00:11] <Chousuke> pronub: very. :)
[00:11] <pronub> more so than debian?
[00:11] <punter> i bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in linux
[00:11] <akraft> well, I'm going to doublecheck to see if my onboard USB is disabled in bios. I might be back. Thanks.
[00:11] <zhurai> disregardthat: hopefully if it pwns more computers in windows, people'll move to linux >_>;?
[00:11] <pronub> i have run debian and gentoo
[00:11] <disregardthat> zhurai: Not a chance.
[00:11] <pronub> tryin to find somethign easy for kids you know
 more so than debian? <-- ....ubuntu is based on debian
[00:11] <punter> i bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in ubuntu any idea of how to get it to work
[00:12] <pronub> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
[00:12] <zhurai> disregardthat: :(
[00:12] <Flannel> pronub: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation.  Thanks.
[00:12] <pronub> Flannel: can you chill out sir
[00:12] <pronub> its the internet
[00:12] <pronub> the bandwith from my enter stroeks surely does not effect you
[00:12] <pronub> affect*
[00:12] <zhurai> 0.2s lag o:
[00:12] <Rabbitbunny> pronub: We're serious about providing the best support possible. You don't have to be here.
[00:12] <Joe_Shmoe|> Have any of you heard about this Conficker virus?
[00:13] <Flannel> Joe_Shmoe|: Try #ubuntu-offtopic, this isn't the place.
[00:13] <pronub> Rabbitbunny: thank you for the warm welcome.
[00:13] <Joe_Shmoe|> oh, I see.
[00:13] <disregardthat> joetheodd: It's why Im looking forward to tomorrow.
[00:13] <disregardthat> Whoops, wrong joe.
[00:13] <pronub> im just trying to ask questions of people that are 'at the source' who know the OS inside and out
[00:13] <zhurai> >.>
[00:13] <pronub> if this isnt the place then ill try to go elseware
[00:13] <punter> i bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in ubuntu any idea of how to get it to work
[00:13] <mrsteveman1> anyone know what updates the /vmlinuz and /initrd.img symlinks when a kernel is upgraded? is it the package post-install scripts, or is it another script?
[00:14] <disregardthat> So, any advice about my mouse and keyboard?
[00:14] <disregardthat> I kind of need those...
[00:14] <pronub> use the power of the force my friend :D
[00:14] <disregardthat> Well... Okay!
[00:14]  * disregardthat forces Hald to see the mouse
[00:14] <zhurai> what problem?
[00:15] <disregardthat> Aww, it doesn't like the Force.
[00:15] <disregardthat> zhurai: Same as usual.
[00:15] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, What is the problem with the mouse and keyboard?
[00:15] <disregardthat> My X doesn't recognize the mouse or keyboard.
[00:15] <pronub> ahhhhhhhhh my computer is changing colors now
[00:15] <The-Mentor> are they usb?
[00:15] <disregardthat> It's probably Hald instead, given Intrepid.
[00:15] <pronub> how do i fix this
[00:15] <disregardthat> No, integrated, I'm on an E1505.
[00:15] <space_cadet> my mouse is usb and ubuntu sees it fine.
[00:16] <pronub> wtf is this conficker virus
[00:16] <disregardthat> pronYou'll see tomorrow.
[00:16] <space_cadet> Pronub something windows specific
[00:16] <disregardthat> ProNoob:  You'll see tomorrow.
[00:16] <akraft> so guess how dumb I am
[00:16] <Rabbitbunny> pronub: Stay on topic.
[00:16] <pronub> who is on my computer
[00:16] <punter> i bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in ubuntu any idea of how to get it to work
[00:16] <pronub> THIS IS ON TOPIC SOMEONE HACKED MY UBUNTU
[00:16] <Rabbitbunny> Flannel: Thank You.
[00:16] <space_cadet> pronub, it's actually over emphasized, most systems are patched
[00:17] <disregardthat> A bit harsh, don't you think?
[00:17] <ProNoob> LoL
[00:17] <disregardthat> Anyways...
[00:17] <disregardthat> The keyboard and mouse.
[00:17] <ProNoob> how did his ubuntu get haxxed ?
[00:17] <ProNoob> there be any vulns ?
[00:17] <disregardthat> No idea what they keys are, but the mouse is a SynPS2.
[00:18] <Rabbitbunny> Flannel: Ban Evasion, see ProNoob.
[00:18] <Flannel> Rabbitbunny: Not quite.
[00:18] <hotte-> huhu guys ;) what is the standard filepath for java?
[00:18] <akraft> So the usb support was totally disabled in bios because I am developmentally challenged.
[00:18] <ProNoob> Rabbitbunny, check my history of idling...
[00:18] <ProNoob> Rabbitbunny, won't match with that dudes
[00:18] <hotte-> i dont know where i have to install the .bin file
[00:18] <Ropechoborra> Aren't generic? Then try compiling drivers
[00:18] <akraft> it is now fixxored, thanks guys
[00:18]  * otm still doesn't know how to do red text and is nearly tearful
[00:18] <Flannel> ProNoob, Rabbitbunny: it's perfectly fine to just drop it.
[00:18] <Rabbitbunny> punter: There's a guide on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6782167 for most of the operation.
[00:19] <Rabbitbunny> ProNoob: Ah, A hearty apology my fine resident.
[00:19]  * Rabbitbunny bows before ProNoob
[00:19] <WinterWeaver> how can I do "chmod a-x -R *"    .... BUT excluding the -x on directories?
[00:19] <Flannel> WinterWeaver: You might be looking for X instead of x.  Depending on what you've already done, etc.
[00:20] <disregardthat> WinterWeaver: Read the man pages?
[00:20] <WinterWeaver> ok, will do... I thought it would be more complicated than that. thx
[00:21] <The-Mentor> akraft: your cracking me man
[00:21] <bluenzo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpunRcR3_Sk sexy ;x
[00:21] <bluenzo> why cant subaru donate a car to me :(
[00:21] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me with my mouse/key problems?
[00:21] <bluenzo> OOH DARNIT wrong chan sorry
[00:21] <disregardthat> blue__: Fail.
[00:21] <disregardthat> Speaking of which...
[00:22] <punter> rabbitbunny:that tutorial is for tablet pcs mine is regular pc
[00:22] <space_cadet> Guys, could you check this over and tell me how it looks?   http://pastebin.com/m6bded8bd
[00:22] <disregardthat> bluenzo: Fail.
[00:23] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me with my mouse/keyboard problems?
[00:24] <disregardthat> Anyone?
[00:24] <space_cadet> wow everyone suddenly watch the video?
[00:24] <space_cadet> lol
[00:25] <akraft> has anyone here any experience getting printers to work?
[00:26] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me with my mouse/keyboard problems?
[00:26] <seb-> how turn off "Do you really mean that?" popups when you kill xterms?
[00:26] <amgarchIn9> space_cadet: did you try ath5k?
[00:26] <RichW> !ask | disregardthat
[00:26] <seb-> akraft, disregardthat: you won't get any help if you don't ask a freaking question
[00:26] <mint3> Please help
[00:26] <akraft> seb: sorry, sorry.
[00:27] <disregardthat> RichW, seb-: k
[00:27] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays.
[00:27] <amgarchIn9> space_cadet: ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2425 chip found (MAC: 0xe2, PHY: 0x70), runs ok
[00:28] <akraft> I have an epson stylus cx8400 and gutenprint recognizes it and thinks everything's fine, but when I try to print, it just spits out blank paper till it runs out. Any help?
[00:28] <Nithrin> How do I stealth my ports?
[00:28] <_Brun0_> what's a good value for upload_tmp_dir on ubuntu?
[00:29] <space_cadet> amgarchIn9, yes we did try the ath5k, didn't work
[00:29] <space_cadet> an HP machine
[00:29] <kavity> Anyone know how I can approach this error while trying to compile uvcvideo driver: File not found: /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/build/.config at ./scripts/make_kconfig.pl line 32, <IN> line 4.
[00:29] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[00:29] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?
[00:29] <RichW> disregardthat, You should be specific about hardware, ps2? usb?
[00:29] <kavity> I get a similar error with gspca too.
[00:29] <disregardthat> I think its PS2.
[00:29] <disregardthat> *it's
[00:30] <mshanks> I've had this problem before with this desktop - there was a way round it by changing some parameters on command line when installing, and in grub for when booting. but i can't remember what they are :/
[00:30] <RichW> disregardthat, you can check with lsusb
[00:30] <andre_pl> anyone know if an ffmpeg .deb from 9.04 will install and work on 8.04?
[00:30] <disregardthat> What should I grep for?
[00:31] <ZING> any ideas on why kompozer keeps quiting on me as soon as it opens??
[00:31] <space_cadet> amgarchIn9, other than that, does the sh look okay??
[00:31] <ZING> i need a good wysiwyg editor
[00:32] <space_cadet> !away > album|awy
[00:32] <ZING> the is URGENT
[00:32] <vigo> ZING: Bluefish. there are a few, but that one is ok
[00:32] <andre_pl> ZING: if its URGENT just edit the raw html. :P
[00:32] <space_cadet> rofl
[00:32] <ubuntux782> EXCUSE ME  CAN ANYBODY SAY ME HOW CONFIGURE THE PROXY IN UBUNTU SERVER 8.10 ?
[00:32] <space_cadet> !caps
[00:32] <Mean_Admin> wow with the scremaing
[00:32] <disregardthat> !caps
[00:33] <The-Mentor> ZING: bluefish is great
[00:33] <space_cadet> rofl @ Mean_Admin 's nick
[00:33] <disregardthat> RichW: I can't pastebin the result, my laptop's netless.
[00:33] <vigo> Zing: Yes, I use Bluefish and another one, but Bluefish is the fall back
[00:33] <ubuntux782> HI
[00:33] <ubuntux782> PLEASE
[00:33] <andre_pl> The-Mentor: 'great' is a subjective term, i would say theres no such thing as a 'great' wysiwyg for html. they're all inferior to hand coding
[00:33] <ZING> is bluefish wysiwyg?
[00:33] <amgarchIn9> space_cadet: why do you escape \# ? I gues that is not necessary inside '\#'
[00:33] <disregardthat> !caps | ubuntux782
[00:33] <ubuntux782> ANYBODY HELP ME
[00:33] <ZING> i need toi be able to see as i type in the code
[00:33] <space_cadet> hmm..
[00:33] <Mean_Admin> so here I am: I've a script that establishes an ssh tunnel-forwarding and then the script mounts smb
[00:33] <vigo> !proxy
[00:34] <The-Mentor> andre_pl: I agree
[00:34] <mrwes> vigo, do you like Bluefish?
[00:34] <space_cadet> kuul
[00:34] <Mean_Admin> except that forwarding privilged ports requires sudo... how can I make my script executable by all (it's already 777, it needs to be executed by root or sudoed)
[00:34] <vigo> arwes: sorta, not really, but sorta
[00:34] <mrwes> vigo, perfectly clear :)
[00:35] <ubuntux782> OK
[00:35] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?
[00:35] <Mean_Admin> so my question is: what can I do to allow any user to execute a script which contains a command that needs to be issued by root or with sudo ?
[00:36] <Mean_Admin> actually, not even any user, I wouldn't mind if the script had a box pop-up asking for the sudo password
[00:36] <vigo> arwes: I honestly prefer Arachnophelia, there is a another wysiwyg editor that is like that, pure java, almost, is nice
[00:36] <mrwes> vigo, is that in the repos?
[00:36] <Flannel> ubuntux782: We can hear you.  You don't need to use all caps, nor do you need to say something every minute.  Also, please be more specific.  What sort of proxy (what are you trying to accomplish)? What have you tried? What are you stuck on?
[00:36] <mrwes> or a .deb file for it?
[00:37] <Hfuy> Is there somewhere I can look to see if ubuntu will run all the hardware on my laptop?
[00:37] <mrwes> Hfuy, download the Live CD and try it
[00:38]  * Hfuy winces
[00:38] <Hfuy> Really?
[00:38] <webpigeon_laptop> Hfuy, lshw
[00:38] <vigo> arwes: No it is not, I did a wget , but I see no reason why it is NOT included, it is pure java and the source is pretty dang open.
[00:38] <Hfuy> lshwhat?
[00:38] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[00:38] <Flannel> !hardware | Hfuy
[00:38] <Flannel> Hfuy: just bear in mind that's not exhaustive nor authoritative.
[00:38] <ubuntux782> IḾ NEW IN LINUX
[00:38] <webpigeon_laptop> Hfuy, sorry mis-read what you wanted
[00:39] <dyek> On Fedora, in this file, /etc/alsa/alsa.conf, there is a pulse-default.conf hook, such that PulseAudio hooks into the alsa "default" pcm device. With this, anything played through the Alsa "default" pcm device will go to PulseAudio sound server. What is equivalent to pulse-default.conf on Ubuntu?
[00:39] <webpigeon_laptop> ubuntux782, WE NOTICED
[00:39] <Irreducibilis> !caps
[00:39] <Flannel> webpigeon_laptop: That's not necessary at all.
[00:39] <webpigeon_laptop> Flannel, sorry :(
[00:39] <Poscaenium> lol
[00:39] <amgarchIn9> ubuntux782: enjoying fools day?
[00:40] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?
[00:40] <vigo> ubuntux782: then you are going to see alot of RTFM and such, but welcome to the freedom and the learning again.
[00:40] <sebsebseb> amgarchIn9: not for USA yet, and  April fools day is kind of off topic here
[00:40] <Nithrin> How do I stealth my ports in Ubuntu?
[00:41] <ubuntux782> OK
[00:41] <ubuntux782> I'M SORRY
[00:41] <Shadow_X> what blank file triggers an fsck upon boot?
[00:41] <vigo> Nithrin: TOR, Squid, unplug it or whatever
[00:41] <Hfuy> Hm. No mention of a Toshiba DV1108 under Ubuntu, so I shan't bother.
[00:41] <Hfuy> Thanks anyway.
[00:41] <Raylz> how can i connect to a unprotected wireless network called tunet with my terminal?
[00:41] <Raylz> iwconfig tunet?
[00:42] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, unprotect how?
[00:42] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: no password, no wep
[00:42] <yggdrasil> hello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?
[00:42] <Raylz> no wpa
[00:43] <webpigeon_laptop> Flannel, ah, sorry, i thought this was ##club-ubuntu :(
[00:43] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "tunet"   (if wlan0 is your wireless interface)
[00:43] <Raylz> your guessing right :)
[00:43] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: is there some cmd for listing available networks too?
[00:43] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?
[00:43] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, and then, if it is necessary tipe ' sudo iwconfig wlan0 key off '
[00:43] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, iwlist wlan0 scan
[00:43] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: ty so much :)
[00:44] <disregardthat> Also, pastebin won't work on that computer.
[00:44] <ubuntux782> I DON'T CAN CONFIGURE MY DRIVER FOR MY NVIDIA FOR LINUX
[00:44] <Ropechoborra> You're welcome :)
[00:44] <disregardthat> !caps | ubuntux782
[00:44] <space_cadet> !caps | ubuntux782
[00:44] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: in arch theres no networkmanager plasmoid yet :)
[00:44] <savid> On ubuntu server, how do I ensure that a service will start in the default runlevel?
[00:44] <space_cadet> !nvidia
[00:44] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, dont know the meaning of plasmoid :( (sorry for my bad english)
[00:45] <vigo> ubuntux782: Did you look at the forums?
[00:45] <disregardthat> !hal
[00:45] <yggdrasil> hello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?
[00:45] <disregardthat> !hald
[00:45] <ubuntux782> yes i do, but they're not specific
[00:45] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: plasma is the new desktop shell of kde, plasmoid is a widget
[00:45] <Blizzerand> !welcome
[00:45] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: in gnome it would be the nm-applet
[00:45] <glitchd> can anyone help me make my 42 inch lcd tv act as my monitor?
[00:45] <devn> need help! I installed ubuntu 6.06 onto imac g3 it starts up and i can log in then it goes black screen
[00:45] <Ropechoborra> Raylz,  Ohh ! now i get it :)
[00:45] <Raylz> !hal
[00:45] <space_cadet> !askthebot
[00:46] <marek__> hi is there any CLI editor with find & replace function?
[00:46] <macd_> marek__, nano, pico, vi...
[00:46] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, pastebin won't work, can anyone help?
[00:46] <vigo> ubuntux782: you can look in the Synaptic Package Manager and find the driver for your card, or use a fglrx.
[00:46] <marek__> nano has onyl search? macd_ ?
[00:46] <durt> marek__, almost all of them, emacs, vim etc.
[00:46] <glitchd> does anyone use arch?
[00:46] <Hobz> cat | grep | awk
[00:46] <Shadow_X> what blank file triggers an fsck upon boot?
[00:46] <Ropechoborra> marek__, almost everyone have them i think
[00:46] <Raylz> glitchd: aye
[00:46] <devn> need help! I installed ubuntu 6.06 onto imac g3 it starts up and i can log in then it goes black screen
[00:47] <ubuntux782> i do
[00:47] <sebsebseb> devn:  Ubuntu 6.06 is  nearly not suppourted anymore
[00:47] <glitchd> raylz, u think u could help me figure this out?
[00:47] <Raylz> glitchd: dunno, i could try :)
[00:47] <glitchd> i have arch on my computer with a 15 inch monitor
[00:47] <macd_> marek__, crtl+r is for replace after you find.
[00:47] <devn> yes but i have an old world imac g3 so thats why i use 6.06
[00:47] <VoodooDance> howdy all
[00:47] <glitchd> i jus got a 42 inch lch 1080 tv
[00:47] <VoodooDance> How difficult is it to setup dual boot for an existing Ubuntu installation with a new second hard drive?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> devn: well 8.04 would probably run as well.
[00:47] <ubuntux782> i did  but it is not there because video card is old version
[00:48] <sebsebseb> !mac | devn
[00:48] <sebsebseb> no good uhmmm
[00:48] <glitchd> raylz, how can i make the tv recognize the computer signal?
[00:48] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, pastebin won't work, can anyone help?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> devn:  ok I can't really help anyway, since I don't have a Mac.  sounds like to do with xorg your issue  or something like that, well if  Ubuntu on Mac is anything like Ubuntu on PC
[00:48] <glitchd> i pulgged it in nd i t all came up but when i logged in the display went all black
[00:48] <sebsebseb> devn: there are other distros that work better on the Mac, for example Yellowdog Linux
[00:49] <marek__> thx folks
[00:49] <Raylz> glitchd: you need to configure it for a second monitor
[00:49] <RichW> glitchd, if using nvidia/ati, install their control panels
[00:49] <vigo> VoodooDancer: Is really quite easy to add almost any Debian based or Grub loaded, I had issues with some BSD stuff, but I fixed it,.
[00:49] <Raylz> glitchd: never done it myself but you have to look for xorg.conf or nvidia/ati tools
[00:49] <glitchd> how can i figure out what i have?
[00:49] <glitchd> where can i find those??
[00:49] <Raylz> glitchd: lspci | grep VGA
[00:50] <pirp999> i've bricked my dg834 netgear router. I tried to put my on busybox config on it and now the eth ports are non-responsive, is it even possible to unbrick this?
[00:50] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working? They don't show up under HAL, I'm on an Inspiron E1505N, and it's not April Fools' Day yet for me. This is serious. Any advice?
[00:51] <vigo> VoodooDancer: I am running two Ubuntus' one Debian and gNewSence on two hard drives now, one box.
[00:51] <ubuntux782> thanks vigo
[00:51] <ubuntux782> bye
[00:51] <Hfuy> where would I get this live CD?
[00:51] <Flannel> Hfuy: ubuntu.com/download
[00:52] <Flannel> Hfuy: the "desktop" CD is a liveCD you can try Ubuntu out with
[00:52] <Hfuy> Flannel: Surely that'd just be an install CD.
[00:52] <keith> When I run dd on a partition, it seems like the information it is returning is not up to date with actions through the file system. Is this the case? If so, how can I get around it?
[00:52] <Flannel> Hfuy: No, the Alternate CD is just an install CD.  The Desktop CD is a Live CD that you can also install with.
[00:52] <marek__> one more, in nano, when i type Ctrl+w i can see search box, there is also an information about regexp, i would like to use it, it has M-R shorcut, what doe it mean?
[00:53] <Hfuy> Which version do I want
[00:54] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working on my lptop? They don't show up under HAL, and it's an Inspiron E1505N.
[00:54] <Flannel> Hfuy: you want 32bit, and also likely want 8.10
[00:55] <chronic> ikonia, hey, i need you to unban me from ubuntu+1
[00:55] <sotec_prod> Why would my / drive be reading 0 bytes free?
[00:55] <vigo> Flannel:>>^5
[00:55] <raddad> Has anybody ran civilization 2 or 3 in wine successfully?  ubuntu 8.04  and wine 1.1.17
[00:55] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working on my la ptop? They don't show up under HAL, and it's an Inspiron E1505N.
[00:55] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, check http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/touchpad-issues-with-dell-laptop-700849/ i think there you will find the answer
[00:55] <riwa> Is there some way to reset the mouse settings to default?
[00:55] <disregardthat> Ropechoborra: Will read, thanks.
[00:56] <Flannel> chronic: #ubuntu-ops for things like that
[00:56] <disregardthat> chronic: Ask unitedpotsmokers about that, it's probably his department. ;)
[00:56] <unitedpotsmokers> lol
[00:56] <chronic> 420
[00:56] <Flannel> chronic: Please stay on topic.
[00:57] <disregardthat> Ropechoborra: I think this is a different issue.
[00:57] <disregardthat> I can't get it to even move the cursor.
[00:57] <Teejay__> hi
[00:57] <sotec_prod> Does anyone know why my / drive is reading as 0 bytes free? If that's the case, how do I clean junk out of it to free up space? I'm not able to download anything...
[00:57] <disregardthat> sotec_prod: sudo apt-get clean
[00:57] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, in the 2nd post there is a Quote wich talks about your laptop model. it says to add something in the xorg.conf
[00:57] <sotec_prod> I tried that
[00:57] <VoodooDance> Is it possible to mount your boot partition and edit your grub configuration?
[00:57] <Flannel> sotec_prod: an eays way to clean some up is apt-get clean, yes.  But, check /var/log for runaway log files
[00:58] <sebsebseb> disregardthat: did  #ubuntu+1 tell you to come back here?  :D
[00:58] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, worths the effort to try :P
[00:58] <LjL> chronic: you know what the channel for ban-related requests is. ask again here, and you get banned from here too.
[00:58] <disregardthat> Ropechoborra: I'm almost completely sure this is something else.
[00:58] <disregardthat> That and xorg.conf doesn't do anything to my system.
[00:58] <`Borg`> why on some drives does ubuntu 64-bit (even though there is enough space on a drive) report that the drive does not have enough space?
[00:58] <`Borg`> bug?
[00:58] <coppro> `Borg`: how much extra space
[00:58] <sotec_prod> Flannel, I don't think I understand that. What's the significance of runaway log files?
[00:58] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[00:58] <Hfuy> There are no bugs in linux.
[00:58] <Hfuy> Only
[00:58] <chronic> LjL, lolz, dude , u know im banned from there
[00:58] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, sorry, didnt noticed. You're right
[00:58] <Hfuy> "patches welcome"
[00:59] <coppro> For experimentation purposes, does there exist a package that allows software OpenGL rather than hardware (I'm aware that there will be slowdown), preferably for a single application
[00:59] <`Borg`> like major extra space coppro. 150Gb+
[00:59] <Flannel> sotec_prod: A log file that is far too large (assumingyou don't have a separate /var) and is taking up all of the space on your drive.
[00:59] <Titan8990> chronic, maybe you shouldn't do things that get you banned
[00:59] <coppro> `Borg`: Okay, the defeats my first guess.
[00:59] <unitedpotsmokers> hey guys, im using windows xp now, and run ubuntu with vmware. i configure share folders in vmware and install vmware tools in ubuntu, and everything ok except share folder. where to find them in ubuntu?
[00:59] <Nithrin> How do I get into the TOR program so I can make changes? Do I need to make changes once it downloads itself and installs? Does it run on its own or do I need to do stuff to get it working?
[00:59] <coppro> Perhaps the partitioning is weird?
[00:59] <sebsebseb> chronic: your banned from +1?  same here
[00:59] <so20f> i downloaded a beta jaunty cd, and i'd like to use that to upgrade my system, can it be done? starting the update managner and using it oesn't find the CD
[00:59] <sotec_prod> Flannel, I can safely delete the log files, yes?
[00:59] <coppro> unitedpotsmokers: read up on samba
[00:59] <Flannel> sotec_prod: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[00:59] <Titan8990> !samba | unitedpotsmokers
[00:59] <Flannel> sotec_prod: Yes.  Well, you'll lose the data in them, but nothing will explode.
[00:59] <sotec_prod> I don't have jaunty.
[00:59] <makdin> hellow
[01:00] <`Borg`> ok just wanted a second imput on the matter. I've seen the problem rolling around the net somewhat.
[01:00] <sotec_prod> I have Intrepid.
[01:00] <sebsebseb> so20f: you can put on jaunty, but then your not entitled to suppourt here anymore
[01:00] <sebsebseb> so20f: basicalley
[01:00] <makdin> hellow
[01:00] <makdin> morning
[01:00] <raddad> could everybody type slower?  I'm not a speed reader LOL
[01:00] <sebsebseb> so20f: unless you got another previous version on another computer
[01:00] <sotec_prod> Flannel, I'll check the logs. Thanks.
[01:00] <so20f> sebsebseb, that's not what i'm asking.
[01:00] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[01:00] <makdin> every body here
[01:01] <makdin> can help me please
[01:01] <orochi> hello :> does anyone else receive strange issues with udp in intrepid? in just about any application on eth0 i'm constantly receiving "wrong udp checksum" errors
[01:01] <so20f> sebsebseb, it's a live CD, and i'd like to use it to update my system. instead of formatting the drive and installing jaunty.
[01:01] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working on my laptop? They don't show up under HAL, and it's an Inspiron E1505N.
[01:01] <sotec_prod> Flannel, my entire /var/log folder is 6.6mb. that can't be it.
[01:01] <sebsebseb> so20f: you can install a version of Ubuntu, and upgrade it yeah
[01:01] <matty_b> is there any way to search man pages?
[01:01] <Flannel> so20f: Again, please ask in #ubuntu+1.  But no, you can't upgrade from Desktop CDs, only Alternate CDs.
[01:01] <disregardthat> sotec_prod: try sudo apt-get clean
[01:02] <coppro> orochi: UDP is not normally checked.
[01:02] <`Borg`> & Hfuy, if a software has a problem that needs a patch, typically that is referred to as a 'bug fix.'
[01:02] <sotec_prod> disregardthat, I have several times
[01:02] <disregardthat> ah
[01:02] <amgarchIn9> matty_b: man -k keyword
[01:03] <matty_b> thanks
[01:03] <Teejay__> anybody installed ubuntu on ausus eee pc 701SD and managed to get the ethernet port working?
[01:03] <Teejay__> when I tried to install ubuntu on it, it would not pick up the ethernet
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Teejay__: they aren't suppourted here, but  ubuntu eee  or easypeasy  are better on  the eepc's  as far as I know.
[01:03] <allowoverride> im back
[01:03] <allowoverride> Dreamglider you still here? :)
[01:03] <raddad> If I install 8.10 over 8.04 will it nuke everything already in place; as in a clean slate with no installs, wipe out email accounts etc?
[01:03] <amgarchIn9> matty_b: "man man" also works
[01:04] <allowoverride> Dreamglider: you mentioned restricted drivers... let's talk about that for a few... k
[01:04] <sotec_prod> raddad, yes
[01:04] <sebsebseb> raddad: probably
[01:04] <lukinfore> hi! when I logout from vt automatic switch to X occurs on jaunty. How can I change this?
[01:04] <gartral> ok, this is a pain in my arse, ah need to configure VLC's sound output manually, but i cant find the DSP device, where are they in 8.10?
[01:04] <keith> Are device drivers in /dev not kept up to date when a drive is modified through the file system?
[01:04] <raddad> that's what I thought, thanks
[01:04] <coppro> How do I figure out if I'm using MESA?
[01:04] <Nithrin> How do I get into the TOR program so I can make changes? Do I need to make changes once it downloads itself and installs? Does it run on its own or do I need to do stuff to get it working?
[01:05] <xun_> Hi, I think I ran into a bug in compiz's Unfold under the Desktop Cube, I only see 3 screens instead of 4, with 1 of them duplicated... I'm running off dual monitor btw. can someone help?
[01:05] <Dreamglider> allowoverride: here
[01:05] <allowoverride> great...
[01:05] <allowoverride> sorry i had to go away for spell, grab my son from school
[01:05] <sotec_prod> Flannel, uninstalling programs via Synaptic or apt-get is'nt going to free up space is it? I think (I don't remember) I set /home on it's own partition for contingency.
[01:05] <allowoverride> you mentioned restricted drivers, i am already running restricted for the ati card
[01:05] <coppro> xun_: You probably have one desk top on each monitor, so the other doesn't appear on the cube
[01:05] <sotec_prod> that may be why it's full
[01:05] <allowoverride> i wonder if that will be a good mix in the first place
[01:05] <allowoverride> lol
[01:06] <xun_> coppro, sorry i don't quite get that. what do you mean one desktop on each monitor?
[01:06] <Dreamglider> allowoverride: to i doubt i can help you much, i just installed the restricted drivers for the graphic card (ati x1400) and compiz and hey presto full 3d desktop and cube and stuff
[01:06] <coppro> sotec_prod: it should. Also, to check partitions, look at /etc/fstab
[01:06] <Flannel> sotec_prod: Run baobab and see what's up.  Or du or something.  How many partitions do you have?  is it / and /home and that's it?  (df will tell you)
[01:06] <coppro> xun_: Well, if you have four desktops, and one is on each monitor
[01:06] <coppro> then I guess compiz doesn't show the other one on the cube
[01:07] <allowoverride> Dreamglider: so my question is sorta answered already... from what you mentioned prior, but how about the command or configs i may require, may i have a look at your xorg.conf or something else? to compare and see if i am on the same page. also,, do i need glx or xlg to run compiz? i was reading the docs earlier
[01:07] <xun_> coppro, oh i see. no i'm using NVidia Twinview mode, so both monitor are seen as one desktop
[01:07] <coppro> ah
[01:07] <gartral> ok, this is a pain, i need to configure VLC's sound output manually, but i cant find the DSP device, where are they in 8.10?
[01:07] <coppro> hmm
[01:07] <coppro> you sure you're on four desktops
[01:07] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[01:08] <xun_> coppro,, yes i can rotate the cube just fine
[01:08] <allowoverride> also, if something breaks, like it did in the past, i had to reinstall the os. very new to ubuntu
[01:09] <xun_> it just has one of them duplicated... so that's why I can only see 3 of them.
[01:09] <allowoverride> something along these lines....   sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:09] <coppro> xun_: But do you have four desktops set?
[01:09] <Mean_Admin> ok, last check: if I add "icarus ALL = NOPASSWD: /path/to/script" as last line in /etc/sudoers, it should allow icarus (and only icarus) to execute script that's supposed to be executed by root(or rather sudo)?
[01:09] <Hfuy> allowoverride: Is it a desktop or a laptop?
[01:10] <allowoverride> lappy,,,
[01:10] <Hfuy> Good luck, you'll need it.
[01:10] <allowoverride> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[01:10] <allowoverride> 8.04 LTS desktop
[01:10] <sotec_prod> baobab reports that / is full
[01:10] <Hfuy> Is it one that's specifically mentioned as working well under linux on any website?
[01:11] <VoodooDance> If I have 2 hard drives... one Ubuntu and one Windows XP... is dual booting possible?
[01:11] <lukinfore> when I logout from vt automatic switch to X occurs on jaunty. How can I change this?
[01:11] <Mean_Admin> VoodooDance: yeah it should
[01:11] <mshanks> VoodooDance; yes
[01:12] <so20f> any reason why i can't configure my card with iwconfig anymore? it keeps disconnecting from the AP from local choice (dmesg output) but using the network manager program it's flawless. any ideas?
[01:12] <VoodooDance> Is it ok for dual boot to have one SATA and one regular IDE?
[01:12] <xun_> coppro, yes i'm pretty sure
[01:12] <xun_> although I don't know where to change the number of desktops's set
[01:12] <sotec_prod> Flannel, Gparted reports that I do infact have a / dir and a /home seperate from that. / is indeed full. Now, the question of course, is: How do I free up space?
[01:12] <xun_> i just viewed Desktop Wall, and it shows 4 desktops as well...
[01:13] <RedWar> bak!  Hey what's the deal with using the Logitech usb laser headset with ubuntu. Why is it still so damned difficult? How can I get it to work?
[01:14] <sotec_prod> VoodooDance, I have 3 IDE's and one SATA II drive, and I've triple-booted that config. Works fine.
[01:14] <Lunie2ns> Anyone have a moment to help a noob connect to wireless network with ubuntu on my laptop?
[01:14] <Nithrin> Where can I get the Firefox plugin called  Live IP Address?
[01:14] <VoodooDance> sotec_prod, ty
[01:14] <sotec_prod> no problem
[01:14] <VoodooDance> Mean_Admin, mshanks ty
[01:14] <Dreamglider> allowoverride: installing compiz should install everything it needs, sure ill pastebin the xorg.conf
[01:14] <coppro> so20f: You will need to turn networkmanager off to do manual configuration; /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
[01:15] <Hfuy> I had to install compiz on an eee-pc once.
[01:15] <Hfuy> God it was a nightmare.
[01:15] <so20f> coppro, i did
[01:15] <so20f> coppro, uninstalled it with apt-get to make sure of that as well. same result.
[01:16] <coppro> Oo
[01:16] <sotec_prod> Flannel, Gparted reports that I do infact have a / dir and a /home seperate from that. / is indeed full. Now, the question of course, is: How do I free up space?
[01:16] <Nithrin> Where can I get the  Live IP Address Firefox plugin?
[01:16] <Lunie2ns> ...anyone?
[01:17] <mapsuy> hi how do i install nmap latest version?
[01:17] <LjL> !latest | mapsuy
[01:17] <Dreamglider> allowoverride: u got the link ?
[01:18] <ge0rge007> i use kubuntu 8.10 and i cant figure out how to make my external usb sound card work(behringer uca202).Could anyone help me?
[01:18] <The-Mentor> ladies and gentlemen good night
[01:18] <mapsuy> LjL: can our nmap scan for conficker virus then? any idea?
[01:19] <LjL> mapsuy: no, i don't know. what does scanning for it involves?
[01:19] <sotec_prod> Can I safely uninstall Evolution? I will most likely NEVER need it.
[01:19] <nado> you need the latest beta version of nmap mapsuy, beta5 i believe
[01:19] <alevine> is it possible to move a hard drive with ubuntu on it to a completely different system and boot from it without any problems?
[01:19] <mapsuy> nmap --script=smb-check-vulns --script-args=safe=1  -p139,445 -d1 <IP_ADDRESS>   <--but this doesnt run cuz of that script
[01:20] <nado> alevine, very unlikely
[01:20] <JakeLL> I'm having an install CD problem, anyone willing to help?
[01:20] <PoetOfShadows> !ask | JakeLL
[01:21] <space_cadet> JakeLL, burn it at <= 4x?
[01:21] <space_cadet> JakeLL, or use unetbootin to 'burn' yourself an ubuntu live usb
[01:21] <RedWar> Gentlemen any ideas, the Logitech usb laser headset with ubuntu, how do I get it to work?
[01:21] <alevine> nado: what would the problem be? isn't the kernel one size fits all?
[01:21] <RedWar> and ladies sorry
[01:21] <nado> alevine, i would say a file system problem
[01:21] <space_cadet> JakeLL, with the cd are you getting I/O errors?
[01:22] <nado> alevine, is the hard disk you are copying to the same ?
[01:22] <alevine> nado: i'm not copying anything. I just want to take the hard drive from this computer, slide it into a different system (different mobo, cpu, RAM etc) and boot
[01:22] <JakeLL> ubotto: K   All:  I burned the unzipped package from ubuntu to 2 CDs one without boot info and one with.
[01:22] <Flannel> sotec_prod: How big is your /?
[01:23] <JakeLL> The one without never boots
[01:23] <nado> alevine, oh i see... yes it could work
[01:23] <Ienorand> How can I put chainloading into a vesamenu (UNetBootIn)
[01:23] <sotec_prod> Flannel, 9.78gb
[01:23] <alevine> nado: any reason why it wouldn't?
[01:23] <JakeLL> The one one with allows me to get to my DVD drive but none of the fies are executable
[01:23] <Lunie2ns> Hello, can anyone help me, I am new, using Ubuntu 9.04, on my laptop I have Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 AirForce One 54g 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02),  and I am trying to connect to a TEW-611BRP router wirelessly, any help?..
[01:23] <JakeLL> fies=files
[01:23] <rww> Lunie2ns: Jaunty support in #ubuntu+1, not here. Thanks :)
[01:23] <zhurai> Lunie2ns: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support
[01:23] <nado> alevine, maybe some driver issues, but nothing you couldn't solve
[01:23] <space_cadet> JakeLL, unzipped package??
[01:23] <Lunie2ns> ok thanks
[01:24] <space_cadet> JakeLL, you should have gotten an ISO from the website.
[01:24] <alevine> nado: cool
[01:24] <alevine> thanks
[01:24] <Flannel> sotec_prod: alright, so.  Since that's plenty, we have to figure out what's taking up so much space.  Try firing up baobob
[01:24] <space_cadet> JakeLL, then you burn the iso @ 4x or slower
[01:24] <sotec_prod> Flannel, ok
[01:25] <JakeLL> Aaaah.  K.  I knew I must ahve been doing something idiotic. I thought it was a .rar file
[01:25] <JakeLL> I should have looked closer.
[01:25] <space_cadet> JakeLL, OR use unetbootin from windows to write yourself an ubuntu live usb flash disk
[01:25] <space_cadet> from the ISO
[01:25] <Dreamglider> when did the 4x speed ever helped ? i always use full speen never been a problem ?
[01:25] <sotec_prod> Flannel, there is 104mb free now, but it still registers at 0 bytes
[01:25] <sebsebseb> Lunie2ns: !jaunty
[01:26] <Kiyiko> are the ubuntu servers slow, or is my internet messed up? i am trying to update my computer, but its only going at about 500 b/s
[01:26] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[01:26] <matty_b> i'm having a quick question with alias
[01:26] <matty_b> *problem
[01:26] <matty_b> if i set an alias, how do i unset it?
[01:27] <matty_b> i used 'alias blah=whatever', not .bashrc
[01:27] <space_cadet> borderline flood?
[01:27] <space_cadet> !enter
[01:27] <matty_b> sorry.
[01:27] <nado> matty_b, unalias
[01:27] <mrwes> matty_b, that'll only stay until you log out
[01:27] <sotec_prod> Flannel, there is 104mb free now, but it still registers at 0 bytes
[01:27] <Nithrin> How does one use ActiveX in Ubuntu? Should one use ActiveX in Ubuntu?
[01:28] <matty_b> ah thanks mrwes, i was wondering why my old one that worked disappeared.
[01:28] <space_cadet> activex... isnt that microsoft crap?
[01:28] <avleen> hey folks :) Is there some public read access to the version control system which holds the ubuntu package sources?
[01:28] <nado> matty_b, if you want to keep them around just add them to your .bashrc
[01:28] <mrwes> matty_b, stick it in .bashrc or .bash_aliases to make it permenant
[01:28] <matty_b> how do i make an alias where the command contains single quotes?
[01:28] <nado> use a \
[01:28] <nado> before the quote
[01:29] <space_cadet> Nithrin, hmm..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56675
[01:29] <matty_b> not working.
[01:29] <rww> !source > avleen    (avleen, see the private message from ubottu)
[01:29] <Flannel> sotec_prod: How did you free it?  Also, a hundred megs isn't really significant.  What on earth is taking up 9GB?
[01:29] <matty_b> i'm trying to do this: alias mbz='find . -type f -name "*.zip" -exec unzip -o '{}' \;'
[01:30] <sotec_prod> Flannel, I freed the space by uninstalling via Synaptic
[01:30] <matty_b> to no avail.
[01:30] <mrwes> Flannel, he checked root Trash?
[01:30] <Flannel> mrwes: Tell him that ;)
[01:30] <sotec_prod> root Trash!
[01:30] <sotec_prod> brb
[01:30] <jeanette> how spelling for restart for terminal.. without reboot...
[01:30] <jeanette> sudo restart ???
[01:30] <space_cadet> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:30] <LjL> jeanette: restart without reboot...?
[01:30] <mrwes> Flannel, shrug... :)
[01:31] <space_cadet> sudo shutdown -r now?
[01:31] <jeanette> LjL: yes i dont want reboot. make it tool long.. just quick. restart in terminal..
[01:31] <sotec_prod> Where is root Trash?
[01:31] <nado> matty_b, try this : alias mbz="find . -type f -name '*.zip' -exec unzip -o '{}' \;"
[01:31] <mrwes> !Trash
[01:31] <mrwes> !root trash
[01:32] <mrwes> er
[01:32] <ugliefrog> how do you format a usb thumb drive in ubuntu
[01:32] <space_cadet> jeanette, sudo shutdown -r now    that is about as close to restart you are going to get...  you could restart your x session and ctrl+alt+backspace or simply log out...
[01:32] <Tokenekie> Hi, how can we apply any system updates to a live USB?
[01:32] <jeanette> okt hanks]
[01:32] <jeanette>  let me try
[01:33] <matty_b> nado: it's saying 'find: missing argument to '-exec'
[01:33] <sotec_prod> HAhaha, I delete the files there, and they flash back into the trash. That's classic.
[01:33] <ugliefrog> how do you format a usb thumb drive in ubuntu
[01:33] <nado> matty_b, worked here.. did you copy paste what i gave you ?
[01:33] <Kiyiko> my updates are running at about 500 B/s, any idea why/how to fix?
[01:34] <mrwes> sotec_prod, /root/.local/share/Trash
[01:34] <sotec_prod> Kiyiko, you can change the server they download updates from
[01:34] <sotec_prod> Software Sources in System menu
[01:34] <matty_b> i did, nada.
[01:34] <mrwes> ugliefrog, you can use gparted, you might need to install it first
[01:34] <ubunttu> who can gives me some tutorials links for java source code building
[01:35] <sotec_prod> Kiyiko, then check Dowload From: and choose another server. There is also a button that will ping all the servers and find the best one for you. I did it today and it worked tits.
[01:35] <nado> matty_b, you are using bash right ?
[01:35] <matty_b> i am.
[01:35] <dominik> hi. i am trying to configure kismet and have a hard time determining which interface to use for my card (bcm43xx). iwconfig says no wireless extensions are available and I am too much a newbie to figure out what to do. can anybody help me out?
[01:35] <nado> just copy pasted the entire line in my bash.. and it worked
[01:35] <sotec_prod> mrwes, I did that. I deleted the files there and they deleted themselves right back into place.
[01:36] <nado> matty_b, notice the double quotes at beginning and end
[01:36] <mrwes> sotec_prod, how did you delete them?
[01:36] <sotec_prod> mrwes, delete key.
[01:36] <space_cadet> try shift delete?
[01:37] <matty_b> yep yep.
[01:37] <mrwes> sotec_prod, use the shift + delete key
[01:37] <mrwes> space_cadet, :)
[01:37] <space_cadet> lol
[01:37] <sotec_prod> mrwes, besides that, there's only six small files in that trash. Not enough to warrant 9.78gb full.
[01:37] <codebliss> Where is the most common place to install programs without aptitude?
[01:37] <matty_b> alright i got it working.
[01:37] <matty_b> thanks nado.
[01:38] <mrwes> sotec_prod, did you hit ctrl + H to show hidden files too?
[01:38] <codebliss> Is it /usr/bin?  Just /bin?
[01:38] <nado> matty_b, no problem
[01:38] <space_cadet> codebliss, synaptic or apt-get ?
[01:38] <codebliss> I just need to install leksah, a Haskell IDE, and I don't want to put it in a non-standard location
[01:38] <nado> codebliss, /usr/local/bin
[01:38] <codebliss> IIRC there are multiple places where programs are installed, but one is most common
[01:39] <codebliss> Well there is no "installing", but you get my point.
[01:39] <space_cadet> apt-get?
[01:39] <Ropechoborra> I've already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but still can listen to mp3
[01:39] <space_cadet> or you mean placement of a folder?
[01:39] <codebliss> Ignore my aptitude comment lol.
[01:39] <sotec_prod> mrwes, yes and yes. Still reading as 0 bytes free.
[01:39] <codebliss> Where should I put the folder the program resides in?
[01:39] <space_cadet> ~/
[01:39] <space_cadet> ?
[01:39] <codebliss> The most common place on nix systems for just general programs
[01:39] <dominik> codebliss: /opt or home if there's no installation/compilation
[01:39] <sotec_prod> I don't know what the hell is going on here. I can't imagine I filled up 10gb of space already
[01:39] <space_cadet> lol, I use the home folder...
[01:39] <codebliss> For a system wide program, not for just me  =)
[01:40] <nado> codebliss, i told you /usr/local/bin is where the binary should be
[01:40] <codebliss> Thanks, I wanted to get more than one opinion though =).  Thank you
[01:40] <mrwes> nado, aren't both in the path? /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ?
[01:40] <nado> codebliss, lol this is not a democratic process. You ask a question you get an answer :)
[01:41] <space_cadet> yep no votes...
[01:41] <codebliss> This is IRC son, chill out.  I'll use /usr/bin.
[01:41] <nado> mrwes, can be both but usually for user added programs it should go in /usr/local/bin
[01:41] <mrwes> codebliss,  you can put it anywhere you want, long as it's in your path statement it'll run
[01:42] <PhotoJim> I agree, /usr/local/bin is where locally-compiled or written stuff should go
[01:42] <mrwes> nado, Ok...got it
[01:42] <PhotoJim> but if a person prefers to put stuff in /usr/lib/empty, that's ok with me I guess.
[01:42] <mrwes> heh
[01:42] <nado> PhotoJim, true :D
[01:42] <Ropechoborra> I've already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but still can listen to mp3
[01:42]  * sotec_prod installs everything right into /.local/share/Trash
[01:42] <Sal--> can anyone help me setup my samba server so it can be accessed outside of my network?
[01:43] <mrwes> PhotoJim, what about putting it in: /here/because/I/Can ?
[01:43] <mrwes> :)
[01:43] <matty_b> how do i execute a binary?
[01:43] <Sal--> ./
[01:43] <space_cadet> ./nameofbinary?
[01:43] <space_cadet> lol
[01:43] <Sal--> or what cadet said
[01:43] <PhotoJim> mrwes: that's a really bad idea.  /here/because/I/shouldn\'t/ is ok though.
[01:43] <matty_b> thanks.
[01:43] <mrwes> wh00p! OK
[01:44] <Sal--> su root; rm -r /*
[01:44] <mrwes> hrmmm
[01:44] <space_cadet> no
[01:44] <sotec_prod> dammit. Why is my drive full?
[01:44] <Sal--> :P
[01:44]  * sotec_prod grumbles
[01:44]  * Sal-- gargles
[01:44]  * sotec_prod rabbles
[01:44]  * Sal-- scattles
[01:44]  * sotec_prod skibbydidoobobs
[01:45] <Tokenekie> Hi, how can we apply any system updates to a live USB?
[01:45] <Sal--> does port 445 have to be open for my samba server to work?
[01:45] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: just run your apt-get or synaptic as usual.
[01:45] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: but if you are running from a livecd or usb, none of the changes you make will be saved...
[01:46] <Tokenekie> Yeah that what i thought
[01:46]  * space_cadet slaps Sal-- with a big large trout.
[01:46] <matty_b> this prog is saying '11: java not found'
[01:46]  * Sal-- slaps space_cadet with a big large scout
[01:46] <Tokenekie> Where can I check for updated files? And I'm guessing we have to manually replace the files on the live USB?
[01:46] <matty_b> what's the package name for the jre, as apt-cache search isn't yielding anything
[01:47] <matty_b> or i should say what's the standard one.
[01:47] <arturis> exit
[01:47] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: there are probably nicer more automatic tools to remaster a livecd/liveusb... check out some docs on ubuntu wiki, maybe...
[01:47] <nanotube_> !liveusb
[01:47] <space_cadet> matty_b, you want java?
[01:47] <nanotube_> !livecd
[01:47] <space_cadet> !java
[01:47] <FAJ> Hi has anyone else found out that the proposed linux-kernel updates in Hardy break ndiswrapper?
[01:47] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, You might try chrooting in the usb and then updateing I think it will do
[01:47] <matty_b> thanks space_cadet
[01:48] <space_cadet> yep
[01:48] <Sal--> actually my port is open
[01:48] <Tokenekie> Ah, I'll try that
[01:48] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[01:48] <Sal--> heh and i can't connect via samba
[01:48] <Sal--> weird :(
[01:49] <Nithrin> Any programs that will allow me to play MUDs in Ubuntu?
[01:49] <FAJ> Hi has anyone else found out that the proposed linux-kernel updates in Hardy break ndiswrapper?
[01:49] <Tokenekie> Nano, do you know if this works for liveUSB's off the top of your head?
[01:49] <Tokenekie> your link
[01:49] <sotec_prod> mrwes, what about deborphan?
[01:49] <sotec_prod> Will that help?
[01:50] <mapsuy> anyone in herer trying to detect conficker virus using nmap? any howto?
[01:50] <Sal--> can anyone assist me with my samba server issue?
[01:50] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: no, not off the top of my head... but if not, at worst you could always make a livecd first, then convert it to a liveusb...
[01:50] <safruhani> hi, i use ubuntu 8.10, how can i start sshd?
[01:51] <Tokenekie> Hm, alright
[01:51] <nanotube_> !sshd
[01:51] <Tokenekie> Thanks
[01:51] <nanotube_> safruhani: by default it's not installed. install it with package "openssh-server". then it will start automatically.
[01:51] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: np :)
[01:52] <allowoverride> how can i put things back after installing compiz if it breaks the gui, like it has in the past? do i simply remove ~/.compiz or is there something more?
[01:53] <nado> mapsuy, did you get the lastest version of nmap from their website ?
[01:53] <curt> my sound does not work in the latest version of ubuntu the alpha
[01:53] <safruhani> nanotube_: thanx a lot
[01:53] <curt> can someone please help me
[01:53] <Pupuser402-1> !jaunty | curt
[01:54] <keith_> why does dd show a lost+found folder even after I deleted it from the partition?
[01:54] <nado> mapsuy, then you can read the top article here : http://insecure.org/
[01:55] <nado> keith_, it's created by the filesystem ext3
[01:55] <nanotube_> safruhani: np :)
[01:55] <nanotube_> curt: state your need...
[01:56] <nado> keith_, actually it might be fsck
[01:56] <keith_> nado, I created a ext2 partition and dd showed the lost+found, I mounted the drive and deleted the folder, but dd still shows the same output.
[01:56] <keith_> nado, It was created when I ran mkfs.ext2
[01:56] <curt> nanotube_: i had 8.04 installed and just today i freshly installed 8.04 alpha and the sound does not work
[01:56] <nado> keith_, whenever an fsck is run on your partition.. it will create a lost+found
[01:57] <nado> keith_, you can this little thread about it : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-229143.html
[01:57] <keith_> nado, that isn't the point. The point is nautilus shows no folder, but dd output does.
[01:57] <rww> curt: Jaunty support in #ubuntu+1, not here. Thanks :)
[01:58] <PhotoJim> keith_: just a guess, but perhaps nautilus ignores it, or ignores it if it's empty.
[01:58] <keith_> PhotoJim: I deteted it in nautilus
[01:59] <keith_> PhotoJim: actually, it does the same thing if I rm it
[01:59] <curt> can someone please just help me
[01:59] <PhotoJim> keith_: I don't know.  but you shouldn't delete it.  it's a system folder.
[01:59] <PhotoJim> curt: we don't support Jaunty (8.04) here.  join #ubuntu+1.  They support it there.
[01:59] <nanotube_> PhotoJim: jaunty is 9.04
[01:59] <PhotoJim> Oops.
[01:59] <PhotoJim> Sorry :)
[02:00] <keith_> PhotoJim: It is a symptom of the bigger problem. If I create a file in the partition, then run dd, the output hasn't changed.
[02:00] <PhotoJim> curt: never mind.  I was confused.  We do support 8.04 here.
[02:00] <PhotoJim> keith_: I'm puzzled.  dd simply reads partitions at the system level and sends the data somewhere else.  it doesn't actually look at the contents of the filesystem.
[02:01] <zaccour> how do i access trash can without a toolbar? i decided to use avn instead of a toolbar at the bottom
[02:01] <nanotube_> PhotoJim: but he said 8.04 alpha, so he prabably meant jaunty
[02:01] <x2o> hi, does anybody know how to use gnome-voice-control?
[02:01] <keith_> PhotoJim: I am looking at its output.
[02:01] <nanotube_> zaccour: it's in a .Trash folder somewhere in your home dir.
[02:01] <zaccour> thanks
[02:01] <nanotube_> zaccour: but i am not on my ubuntu machine at the moment, so can't tell you exactly where
[02:01] <PhotoJim> keith_: I don't know then, sorry.
[02:02] <keith_> PhotoJim: thanks anyway... :(
[02:02] <nanotube_> zaccour: try running command "find /home/yourusername -name '.Trash' "
[02:02] <makey030> hello all!
[02:02] <nado> keith_, your partition is ext2 ?
[02:02] <makey030> I need help
[02:02] <keith_> nado, I made an ext2 partition
[02:02] <zaccour> nanotube_, how do i do that?
[02:03] <keith_> nado, my system is actually ext4, but that isn't really relevant. :-p
[02:03] <mrwes> zaccour, home directory /.local/share/Trash
[02:03] <nado> and you are running that dd on the ext2 partition ?
[02:03] <Sal--> anyone wanna make 20$ ?
[02:04] <zaccour> i found it, thanks anyway yall
[02:04] <Sal--> helping my fix my samba server issue
[02:04] <Sal--> helping me* even
[02:04] <safruhani> nanotube_: if u've been connect from linux to linux via ssh, what would advice it about to a newbie (like me)
[02:05] <nado> keith_, on what partition are you using the dd ?
[02:05] <nanotube_> safruhani: could you clarify what you are asking? if you are connected, it's all good, and there's no advice. ... :)
[02:05] <keith_> nado, I am using it to read the data from the ext2 partition
[02:06] <makey030> hello all
[02:06] <makey030> i need help with my ubuntu system
[02:06] <safruhani> nanotube_: nevermind, thanks for your patience
[02:06] <nado> makey030, please just ask your question
[02:07] <makey030> i am trying to do what is on this article: http://tinyurl.com/c8ck64
[02:07] <mib_18mmrg> quick poll for your people that have laptops (need this for a college thing) - How far does your laptop open? 180 degrees? 90? 135?
[02:07] <makey030> but i am having an issue
[02:07] <makey030> http://tinyurl.com/c8ck64
[02:07] <nanotube_> mib_18mmrg: try that in offtopic
[02:08] <Sal--> I have my samba server running on my Ubuntu server. Both ports 445 and 139 are open. I modified the config to allow use of home directories, and created a samba user with a password and enabled the user. When I try to connect, it just simply times out and never connects. Any ideas where to go from here?
[02:09] <mrwes> Sal--, post your /etc/samba/smb.conf to the paste bin
[02:09] <mib_18mmrg> quick poll for your people that have laptops (need this for a college thing) - How far does your laptop open? 180 degrees? 90? 135?
[02:09] <Sal--> 1 sec mrwes
[02:09] <_Whipper> Sal--: dunno anything about networking.. :) just fought 5hrs with my wifi.. lame...
[02:09] <mib_18mmrg> nanotube_: nobody's in off-topic
[02:09] <LjL> !ot | mib_18mmrg
[02:10] <PhotoJim> mib_18mmrg: I have 3 laptops.  which one? :)
[02:10] <mib_18mmrg> PhotoJim: just.. all of them. I need a random sampleing.
[02:10] <_Whipper> mib_18mmrg: hmm.. depends on the the force..
[02:10] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:10] <LjL> which part of this isn't clear?
[02:11] <allowoverride> the part that is still fuzzy
[02:11] <_Whipper> LjL: sorry, bad day?
[02:11] <allowoverride> ;)
[02:11] <Sal--> _Whipper: http://pastebin.com/m40763c06
[02:11] <LjL> back on topic, please. now.
[02:11] <Sal--> thanks in advance, for trying to help as well
[02:11] <Sal--> yikes :(
[02:12] <x2o> hi, i am using wmii but want to use metacity for a moment with gnome, but it complains that it dont find the sessionfiles
[02:13] <sdlwof> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker  midnight tonight! hope your using opensource!
[02:13] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:14] <mrwes> Sal--, and you added the samba users ?
[02:14] <Sal--> mrwes: 1 sec
[02:14] <nate__> Hi can anyone help me with the program Eclipse, I installed eclipse and the import.java.scanner is Not working :X
[02:14] <Sal--> mrwes: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/
[02:14] <ubunttu> what's java cannal name ?
[02:14] <sacreno_> hi there ...noob here..i have a question
[02:14] <Sal--> i follow that tutorial, and added one user, myself, the same username already had a shell account
[02:15] <hackeron> What's the new 9.04 repository called?
[02:15] <Sal--> i also ran smbpasswd -e sal, to enable the user
[02:15] <LjL> !jaunty > hackeron    (hackeron, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:15] <hackeron> LjL: thanks
[02:15] <crdlb> ubunttu: try ##java
[02:16] <ubunttu> crdlb: i'm trying
[02:17] <sacreno_> after typing "sudo apt-get install Emacs" where does the exicutable install?
[02:17] <rylasasin> wow.... lot of people in here
[02:17] <PhotoJim> sacreno_: just type "whereis emacs" and it will tell you.
[02:17] <nado> sacreno_, you can type : which emacs to figure that out
[02:17] <sacreno_> sweet thanks
[02:18] <Sal--> mrwes any idea?
[02:18] <hhp2k> Hey everyone, happy Tuesday :) Can someone tell me what command I need to give the terminal to open a folder window with super-user rights?
[02:18] <Nate13> why does it say i need to be identified to join?
[02:18] <ubunttu> crdlb : it not java channel !
[02:18] <dsmith_> hi I cannot read dvd's but they do autoload, when I put in a dvd
[02:18] <Nate13> sudo nautilus
[02:18] <noglorp> I cannot update firefox to save my life :/
[02:18] <LjL> Nate13: to join what?
[02:18] <orochi> hello :> does anyone else receive strange issues with udp in intrepid? in just about any application on eth0 i'm constantly receiving "wrong udp checksum" errors
[02:18] <dsmith_>  libdvdread3 is already installed
[02:18] <hhp2k> Nate13: Thank you :)
[02:18] <Nate13> i just need to get to an ubuntu Java help channel
[02:18] <dsmith_> nog
[02:19] <crdlb> ubunttu: it appears to be +r, which means you need to be registered
[02:19] <noglorp> yes?
[02:19] <dsmith_> noglorp: update via synaptic
[02:19] <noglorp> I tried to update with apt
[02:19] <mrwes> Sal--, this is the guide I used on my server: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[02:19] <sacreno_> PhotoJim_:is there a way to move the file or create a shortcut in a folder or desktop?
[02:19] <Nate13> where do i register?
[02:20] <nado> sacreno_, man ln is what you want
[02:20] <Sal--> mrwes, could it be hte workgroup is playing a role?
[02:20] <Sal--> the samba server is running on a box outside of my home network
[02:20] <Sal--> and im tryingto mount the shares from home
[02:20] <nado> sacreno_, ln -s target_file link_name
[02:20] <noglorp> dsmith_: I did apt-get install firefox, and now synatpic thinks it is up to date apparently
[02:20] <PhotoJim> sacreno_: moving the file isn't very wise.  but nado's suggestion to make a link to it is a good one.
[02:20] <mrwes> Sal--, what happens when you try to mount the shares?
[02:20] <noglorp> and yet, firefox is still 3.0.4
[02:20] <sacreno_> kk
[02:20] <Sal--> mrwes it looks like it just times out
[02:21] <sacreno_> thanks ill work onit
[02:21] <mrwes> Sal--,  you behind a router?
[02:21] <dsmith_> nog
[02:21] <Sal--> yes, but it's irrelevant
[02:21] <PhotoJim> sacreno_: but if you have a shell / terminal open, you just have to type "emacs".  these directories are in your search path so the system finds the file automatically.
[02:21] <noglorp> yes
[02:21] <rww> !register > Nate13    (Nate13, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:21] <Sal--> i can open all ports on my end
[02:21] <Sal--> at home that is
[02:21] <dsmith_> noglorp: backup your fx directory
[02:21] <dsmith_> purge and reinstall
[02:21] <Sal--> the server itself, has both ports open
[02:21] <noglorp> yuck
[02:21] <noglorp> okay
[02:21] <mrwes> Sal--, and the box on the other end?
[02:21] <noglorp> thats horrible that I have to do that though :(
[02:21] <Sal--> the box hosting hte samba server has ports 139 and 445 open
[02:22] <sacreno_> k...only been on linux for 1 day..hope im not bothering ya
[02:22] <nanotube_> noglorp: are the update repos enabled?
[02:22] <nanotube_> noglorp: and which version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:22] <PhotoJim> sacreno_: there is a learning curve. :)
[02:22] <sacreno_> :)
[02:23] <noglorp> nanotube_: I have 3.0.4
[02:23] <noglorp> nanotube_: but synaptic lists it as 3.0.8
[02:23] <Spirits-Sight> what is the best program to play a block buster
[02:23] <Spirits-Sight> DEV
[02:23] <nanotube_> noglorp: version of /ubuntu/
[02:23] <noglorp> nanotube_: I've made sure no firefox instances are running
[02:23] <Spirits-Sight> DEV = DVD sorry
[02:24] <noglorp> nanotube_: ah
[02:24] <nanotube_> noglorp: and synaptic lists it as installed?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !best >  Spirits-Sight
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !best
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Spirits-Sight: go to that channel
[02:24] <noglorp> Hardy
[02:24] <rww> !dvd > Spirits-Sight    (Spirits-Sight, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:25] <nanotube_> noglorp: if you run from the cli "firefox --version" what does it say?
[02:25] <rylasasin> just out of curosity.... is it possible to hack into a linux box? I ask not because I want to, but because I've BEEN hacked into on windows several times already
[02:25] <Spirits-Sight> I have a DVD that has close captioning on it Moly and Me movie gf want to watch now :-)  please help
[02:25] <noglorp> Mozilla Firefox 3.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org
[02:25] <LjL> rylasasin: yes, it's possible in several instances
[02:25] <nohup> Hey, I noticed that Novell just released a new ifolder.  http://www.ifolder.com  Any idea if the ifolder server could be packaged for Ubuntu?
[02:25] <LjL> rylasasin: it's unlikely, though, if you keep your system updated, use strong passwords, and don't install services that you don't need or know about
[02:26] <kiyiko> kiyiko
[02:26] <nanotube_> rylasasin: yes, if you have some services running with easily-guessable passwords...
[02:26] <rylasasin> LjL: is it possible for a hacker to do much damage? or at least as much damage as one hacking into a windows box
[02:26] <sebsebseb> rylasasin: yeah what Ljl  said, and  a hardware firewall in say a router that is enabled, is good,  whatever the OS if it's internet connected have a firewall
[02:26] <sebsebseb> rylasasin: no only if they gain access to root, becasue of say a bad password
[02:26] <LjL> rylasasin: yes, it's possible if they manage to get in in the first place
[02:26] <nanotube_> noglorp: hrm... try closing all firefoxes (and make sure no firefox processes remain - check in the system process list) and then run "sudo apt-get reinstall firefox"
[02:27] <noglorp> I checked with ps aux | grep firefox
[02:27] <sebsebseb> rylasasin: by the way for reference,  more correct terms are  cracker and blackhat
[02:27] <noglorp> ok
[02:27] <LjL> sebsebseb: if an attacker manages to get in as *any* account, escalation to root is very likely
[02:27] <nanotube_> noglorp: wait sorry
[02:27] <noglorp> um, do I need to back things up for reinstall?
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: i think it's supposed to be "sudo apt-get install firefox --reinstall". i'm not on my ubuntu box, so can't check...
[02:28] <sotec_prod> mrwes, cleaned and cleaned, and still only 196mb free on /
[02:28] <sotec_prod> argh.
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: if the first one doesn't work, try the second one :)
[02:28] <noglorp> ah
[02:28] <sebsebseb> LjL: true
[02:28] <noglorp> k :D
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: no need to back up, reinstall is quite safe.
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: but of course... backups are generally always good. :)
[02:28] <noglorp> --reinstall is workin
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: cool. let's hope it works. :)
[02:29] <noglorp> BLARG
[02:29] <noglorp> Setting up firefox (3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[02:29] <BlackCoffee> konqueror is giving me this message  Error: http://www.alibaba.com/: TypeError: Undefined value
[02:29] <rylasasin> ok. one last question: how differcult is it, compared to windows, is it easy to crack or blackhat into an ubuntu build? say they have a 20 charcter (or whatever the max size pass is) of random letters made in a pass generator  for the super-user
[02:29] <BlackCoffee> and then after a while it closes
[02:29] <noglorp> Mozilla Firefox 3.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org
[02:29] <BlackCoffee> what should i do?
[02:29] <noglorp> oh wait
[02:30] <noglorp> no
[02:30] <noglorp> still 3.0.3
[02:30] <nanotube_> noglorp: try "sudo apt-get update", then again a reinstall (just to make sure you have pulled the latest updates...)
[02:30] <noglorp> kay
[02:30] <noglorp> oh
[02:30] <noglorp> I did that a couple minutes ago
[02:31] <sebsebseb> rylasasin: in general  Windows is more likely to get cracked into, and you can make an  Ubuntu install  rather secure, if you know what your doing, you may want to find out about iptables as well
[02:31] <nanotube_> noglorp: ok then never mind
[02:31] <sebsebseb> !iptables
[02:31] <hhp2k> Hey everyone, I'm having some trouble with Compiz.  I've initiated it thru the terminal by typing 'compiz' but now the window borders are missing from all of my windows, and the terminal gave me this: http://pastebin.ca/1378518
[02:31] <noglorp> maybe I'll just run upgrade
[02:31] <nanotube_> noglorp: hrm... how about trying "which firefox" see what that says
[02:31] <dreamy> ive tryed to restore grub(after tryng to isntall xp)  from a live cd  but it cant find no hard disk devices or partitions
[02:32] <sebsebseb> !grub
[02:32] <dreamy> ive done it reading those istructions :)
[02:32] <dreamy> lol
[02:32] <noglorp> its /usr/bin/firefox, --> /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 --> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/firefox
[02:32] <sebsebseb> dreamy: ok maybe you deleted all the partitions
[02:32] <noglorp> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/firefox is the only real firefox executable
[02:32] <dreamy> sebsebseb: ive been following those instructions
[02:32] <dreamy> sebastien: but xp install setup can see them :S
[02:32] <nanotube_> noglorp: hrm... well... then i'm out of ideas. everything seems as it should be. don't know why it says its 3.0.3
[02:32] <dreamy> strange..
[02:33] <noglorp> maybe I'll back up and reinstall
[02:33] <noglorp> I mean remove and reinstall
[02:33] <nanotube_> noglorp: maybe they forgot to update the version string on firefox? let's ask some other hardy users to see what their "firefox --version" says.
[02:33] <sebsebseb> !tab |  dreamy
[02:33] <bartek> Hi there, I just got a new Logitech microphone and it seems to work but I have to be incredibly close to it to talk into it. Basically, it's very quiet in Ubuntu but it works fine in Windows. Any tips on fixing this?
[02:33] <nanotube_> any hardy users here? running all the lates tupdates? could you tell me what it says if you run "firefox --version" ?
[02:33] <sebsebseb> dreamy: type seb  and press tab and  it will auto complete
[02:34] <dreamy> sebastien: ive been doing hat ..
[02:34] <dreamy> im using tab
[02:34] <noglorp> the about page of firefox is 3.0.3 too though :/
[02:34] <dreamy> sebastien: is thare any command i can run ? to be shure about whats going on with my partitions ?
[02:34] <nanotube_> noglorp: both of those pull from the same string. so of course they'd be the same.
[02:34] <sebsebseb> dreamy: and picking the wrong name in the list.   anyway what partitions do you see exactly?
[02:35] <dreamy> sebastien: why did you mentioned about the tab ? ive been using it
[02:35] <Spirits-Sight> I am getting this error: Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file. when trying to play the dvd after following the instruction of the link that was provided
[02:35] <nanotube_> any hardy users here? anyone?
[02:35] <sebsebseb> nanotube_: used to be, just say your issue
[02:36] <nanotube_> sebsebseb: could you tell me what "firefox --version" says for you?
[02:36] <sebsebseb> nanotube_: what it says?????  I am on 9.04 beta now :D  so  won't be quite the same I guess.   what it says as in what Firefox says in about firefox or what the user agent says?
[02:37] <noglorp> finally!
[02:37] <twolane> nanotube_: x86-64 yes hardy. Mozilla Firefox 3.0.8, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2009 mozilla.org
[02:37] <nanotube_> sebsebseb: no, to check whether the version string on 3.0.8 is updated in hardy.
[02:37] <dreamy> sebsebseb: if it was just to let me know.. thanks i apreciate it
[02:37] <noglorp> nanotube_: got it
[02:37] <noglorp> "update manager" did it properly
[02:37] <nanotube_> noglorp: ah, cool ok, :)
[02:37] <noglorp> did what apt-get and synaptic couldn't
[02:37] <nanotube_> noglorp: weird...
[02:37] <noglorp> for some horrible reason
[02:38] <noglorp> although my home page is still "http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/" which is funny
[02:38] <sebsebseb> dreamy:  there is a command to list your partitions uhmmmm  what was it
[02:38] <dreamy> sebsebseb: df ?
[02:38] <twolane> sebsebseb: fdisk -l
[02:38] <sebsebseb> dreamy: well program you install first and then run it
[02:38] <sebsebseb> dreamy: pydf  sure
[02:38] <nanotube_> 8.04 is the ubuntu version. :)
[02:38] <sebsebseb> dreamy: and  what twolane will probably work
[02:38] <sebsebseb> said
[02:38] <disregardthat> I'm trying to run X, but I keep getting an error about a "bad VBT signature" using Intel 2.6.3 drivers. Advice?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> dreamy: I still prefer graphical for partitions,  so  I  would  sudo apt-get install gparted and look there, or   put  kdiskfree on and have a look
[02:40] <dreamy> okey.. but im using a live cd
[02:40] <disregardthat> dreamy: Gparted should be on the CD.
[02:40] <dreamy> if xp erased my partiotions after a failed install id like to be shure
[02:40] <sebsebseb> dreamy: ok you got it on by default then  system > administaration > partition editor
[02:41] <zhurai> <disregardthat> dreamy: Gparted should be on the CD. <-- it is on the CD
[02:41] <dreamy> im going to try to run that.. gpated
[02:41] <disregardthat> I'm trying to run X, but I keep getting an error about a "bad VBT signature" using Intel 2.6.3 drivers. Advice?
[02:41] <Spirits-Sight> How do you trun on Close captioning in VLC
[02:42] <sebsebseb> disregardthat: which version of Ubuntu?
[02:42] <dreamy> does xp has any sort of rule or control agaynst burning the "installation" to a dvd ?  ive been doing that .. :S
[02:42] <dreamy> *installation and setup files..
[02:42] <disregardthat> Hard to say. It's a half-broken upgrade to Jaunty, but since there's nobody helpful on #ubuntu+1, I went here.
[02:42] <sebsebseb> dreamy: burning XP to DVD hummmmmm  sounds like you don't have a bought version
[02:42] <sotec_prod> Ok, I specifically remember just recently having 4gb available in /, and now I have managed to free up 394mb from the full disk. I ran a backup program earlier, but couldn't find the file. Maybe that's what's killing my disk space?
[02:43] <dreamy> no not at all :)
[02:43] <disregardthat> #ubuntu+1 isn't really a support channel anyways.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> !piracy
[02:43] <dreamy> i had to because my dvd only reads dvds.. no cds anymore.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> dreamy: well if it's a bought version that you  converted to DVD some how  that would be ok
[02:43] <sebsebseb> dreamy: I think
[02:44] <dreamy> yes i converted.. using iso recorder..
[02:44] <sebsebseb> dreamy: why do you want XP?
[02:44] <dreamy> to get the new beta drivers for the radeon mobility m6 ly
[02:44] <dreamy> theyr not released tho :S
[02:44] <dreamy> yet
[02:44] <sebsebseb> dreamy: Windows and Ubuntu have differnet drivers
[02:45] <dreamy> my ubuntu driver for the mobility 7000 only gets 300 fps on glxgears
[02:45] <Meshezabeel> is there a benefit of getting the 64-bit Ubuntu if I only have 1GB of RAM?
[02:45] <dreamy> its a 32 megs 3d
[02:46] <twolane> dreamy: is fglrx installed
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Meshezabeel: probably not,  need about 4GB RAM for  64bit to be any good, as far as I know
[02:46] <dreamy> twolane: probably
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Meshezabeel: 4GB RAM or no point bothering with 64bit as far as I know
[02:46] <twolane> dreamy: get rid of it.
[02:46] <Meshezabeel> thanks sebsebseb
[02:46] <dreamy> twolane: id like to check that
[02:46] <sebsebseb> dreamy: we can't help you burn a pirate copy of XP here
[02:46] <dreamy> of fglrx ?
[02:46] <sotec_prod> I get 5,000+ FPS with glxgears on my 8600GT with TT
[02:47] <dreamy> get rid of fglrx ?
[02:47] <dreamy> but its the original
[02:47] <dreamy> the partitiojns where erased indeed
[02:47] <stdruseren> does anyone here know why my synaptic keeps telling me fail fail i tried all servers, i have feisty
[02:47] <sebsebseb> dreamy: good well  just put Ubuntu on or do another distro :)  ideally
[02:47] <dreamy> :)
[02:47] <sebsebseb> dreamy: or have you got a good reason to want XP other than, because of some drivers?
[02:48] <dreamy> no
[02:48] <ce> ;;;;;;;;;
[02:48] <dreamy> i got to laps
[02:48] <dreamy> 2 laps
[02:48] <sebsebseb> dreamy:  the other has Windows?
[02:48] <_chun> I've added pidgin and amarok to startup applications; is there any way to set them to only open in the system tray, rather than opening their full windows?
[02:48] <dreamy> well..
[02:48] <nanotube_> stdruseren: feisty is no longer supported. could it be they turned off the feisty repos?
[02:48] <dreamy> yes but i hardly use it
[02:48] <ce> ;
[02:48] <stewart_> is there a way i can set the height of window titles in ubuntu?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> dreamy: ok well  why not go Ubuntu only on one,  you may find it's a rather nice feeling indeed
[02:49] <ce> p[[[[[[[[[[[
[02:49] <dreamy> its realy nice yes !
[02:49] <Rabbitbunny> stdruseren: Did you try pinging the servers?
[02:49] <sebsebseb> dreamy:   have you had UBuntu on there before?  yes, and this graphics card issue?
[02:49] <stdruseren> yes i can even http to them
[02:49] <ce> pppp
[02:50] <dreamy> i use it for somem months
[02:50] <dreamy> ubuntu
[02:50] <sebsebseb> dreamy: which version?
[02:50] <stdruseren> nanotube_, yes
[02:50] <rww> stdruseren: Feisty repositories were moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <dreamy> 8.04
[02:50] <stdruseren> its true
[02:50] <sebsebseb> dreamy: ok  cool
[02:50] <jimmyjames_> hey guyz how come after I installed a theme engine the theme still doesn't see it?
[02:50] <stdruseren> I am running on a virtual machine
[02:50] <stdruseren> now its working
[02:50] <sebsebseb> dreamy: 8.04 and 8.10 have completly differnet versions of xorg by the way.  and  it sounded like you had some graphics card issue
[02:50] <BlackCoffee> what's the best MSN app for ubuntu?
[02:51] <sebsebseb> !best |  BlackCoffee
[02:51] <Rabbitbunny> BlackCoffee: I like pidgin
[02:51] <stdruseren> i found an old repository, its still at ubuntu.com they just renamed it to old-releases
[02:51] <BlackCoffee> im tired of emesene,and kopete and kmess won't work properly
[02:51] <BlackCoffee> Pidgin
[02:51] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: yeah Pidgin is good, but if you want other features web cam etc,   AMSN, and I think Kmess can do it.
[02:51] <sebsebseb> !msn
[02:51] <stdruseren> rww, oh just figure that out, thanks any ways.
[02:51] <dreamy> sebastien: i do .. i wanted to make it run games
[02:51] <sebsebseb> !games
[02:52] <stdruseren> it really sucks i spent like an hour figuring it out.
[02:52] <BlackCoffee> i'll try it
[02:52] <BlackCoffee> amsn is great
[02:52] <dreamy> sebastien: i think 8.10 wont do well with 256 mermory
[02:52] <sebsebseb> dreamy: you can run quite a lot of games in Ubuntu,  native and wine
[02:52] <BlackCoffee> but i can't get it to display properly
[02:52] <sebsebseb> dreamy: yeah stay on 8.04
[02:52] <BlackCoffee> same thing with kopete an kmess
[02:52] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: ok have you trtied Mecury Messenger it's a java app, made by only one guy
[02:52] <sebsebseb> closed source
[02:53] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: Mercury Messenger that is,  it can be pretty good at times
[02:53] <BlackCoffee> is it on the repo?
[02:53] <Pyles17> My wireless internet doesn't work. I have an Intel 3945abg card, which works fine in windows. A belkin card worked, until it broke :-( help?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: personally I woudn't use  it for dialy usage, and no not in the repo, but you need Java installed for it
[02:53] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: it's worth a try though
[02:53] <BlackCoffee> will check it out
[02:53] <dreamy> sebsebseb: should i have fglrx or not have it ?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: and if none of them are good enough well, if your computer has enough RAM, you could just  virtual machine  Windows,  and run  WIndows Live Messenger
[02:54] <jimmyjames_> ok let me reword it is it worth while setting up these theme engines not in repository and or going to gnome look for themes cuz I could do without
[02:54] <Ienorand> dreamy: do you want compiz and/or 3D apps?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: I think Trillian works quite well under Wine,  that's multi protocall
[02:54] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: I haven't tried Trillian under Wine, but I think it will work well
[02:54] <BlackCoffee> wine?that vm type little app?
[02:54] <dreamy> Ienorand: no
[02:54] <sebsebseb> !wine
[02:55] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: no  Wine let's you run  Windows apps in  Desktop Linux.   and  virtual machines let you run actsaul Windows
[02:55] <jimmyjames_> GTK+ engines are required on alot of themes at gnome look so I dl some installed and they are still not visible to the corresponding themes
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> i c
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> i do have wine,never checked it out though
[02:55] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: Live Messenger wont' work in WIne, or wont' work well
[02:56] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: it's better to add  http://www.winehq.org Ubuntu's repo, and then get Wine, because then you always get the latest version
[02:56] <dreamy> sebsebseb: the beta driver is being made by ati , otherwise then the xorg ati driver .. :S
[02:56] <dreamy> sebsebseb: i think ill have performance with the new driver
[02:57] <sebsebseb> dreamy:  Windows graphics card drivers in Ubuntu, wont work,  for help with  Windows  drivers on Windows #windows
[02:57] <dreamy> ok sorry
[02:57] <sebsebseb> dreamy: and  why not go Ubuntu only on one of your lap tops as I was saying
[02:57] <otm> noob question: the 'terminal' in ubuntu is the same in all linux distros isn't it?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> otm: no not exactly,  some will call it the shell and some will call it the konsole, and I belive there are about 3 differnet  ones to choose from
[02:58] <dreamy> sebsebseb: i use ubnutu every day .. i like it
[02:58] <sebsebseb> !bash
[02:58] <otm> sebsebseb: are the commands the same?
[02:58] <backz> Hi, I've this sound card: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA). My sound get delay when I'm installing or compiling some thing. Why? I've tried something like: irqpoll at menu.lst and "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. Same problem.
[02:58] <jimmyjames_> has anyone tried jaunty in beta?
[02:58] <dreamy> sebsebseb: its  a very clever operating system
[02:59] <sebsebseb> otm: commands such as cd and lscpci  those will be the same, because they are  Linux/Unix commands.  however commands such as apt-get install and  things are distro specific
[02:59] <otm> :O
[02:59] <sebsebseb> otm: that was lscpi above
[02:59] <Pyles17> My wireless internet doesn't work. I have an Intel 3945abg card, which works fine in windows. A belkin card worked, until it broke :-( help?
[02:59] <sebsebseb> otm: and  Kubuntu is slightly differnet when it comes to installing programs.  ksudo or something instead of sudo
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> jimmyjames_: Jaunty testing is in #ubuntu+1
[03:00] <sebsebseb> otm: you can have both in the same install by the way, and Xubuntu
[03:00] <jimmyjames_> kk atleast I got a response heh
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> sebsebseb: theree is gksu for gnome
[03:00] <sebsebseb> otm: above   Ubuntu and Kubuntu  have slightly differnet  commands.  gksudo  and  yeah
[03:01] <sebsebseb> tonyyarusso: yeah I know
[03:01] <otm> sebsebseb: guess i should stick with ubuntu then, i was thinking about giving lots of linux distros a try but it seems that that would just confuse me
[03:02] <sebsebseb> otm: depends on the distros you try
[03:02] <otm> sebsebseb: well i'm fairly accustomed to ubuntu, i don't really know what doors that opens though
[03:03] <Pyles17> My wireless internet doesn't work. I have an Intel 3945abg card, which works fine in windows. A belkin card worked, until it broke :-( help?
[03:03] <otm> sebsebseb: i still consider myself a noob though, i could never install a program manually without looking it up
[03:04] <sebsebseb> otm: for the distro specific stuff, well.   when you install  programs in ubuntu you will normalely install debs (Debian Packages) using  sudo apt-get or  aptitude or synaptic.  ,but then there's  RPM (Redhat Package Manager) as well  which is  the file format  for   Redhat based distros.  so  a differnet command on those distros.    this description is not that good, so I will use the bot
[03:04] <sebsebseb> !deb
[03:04] <sebsebseb> !rpm
[03:04] <kd5zmc> hi
[03:05] <kd5zmc> how does this thing work
[03:05] <otm> !APT
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> kd5zmc: "this thing" being?
[03:05] <kd5zmc> tonyyarusso ubuntu
[03:06] <kd5zmc> trying to get yahoo IM to work with wine
[03:06] <sebsebseb> otm: and then when you compile stuff from source  from a tar.gz  yeah those commands are the same,  regardless of the distro.
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> kd5zmc: uh, what level of detail are you looking for?  It's an operating system.
[03:06] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, good luck
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> kd5zmc: why do you need yahoo's IM client?
[03:06] <sebsebseb> !yahoo
[03:06] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, if you want voice... i have figured some things out..
[03:06] <kd5zmc> I like the voice chat
[03:06] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, you have to use ekiga
[03:07] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, and you have to use gtalk2viop
[03:07] <kd5zmc> how
[03:07] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, lemmie get a link
[03:07] <Pyles17> can anyone help me with the fact that my wireless doesn't work?
[03:07] <Tugle> is gtalk in the repositories?
[03:07] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, it still needs development
[03:07] <space_cadet> Tugle, off topic
[03:07] <kd5zmc> ok
[03:08] <sebsebseb> space_cadet:  you have figured what out? share your knowledge :D
[03:08] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, this is how far I have gotten.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1097278
[03:08] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, ^^
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Yahoo will also work in Pidgin :)
[03:08] <sebsebseb> just lack certain features
[03:08] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, yahoo voice calls from linux
[03:08] <gravityblock> Try pidgin for yahoo messenger
[03:08] <kd5zmc> ok thinks give me a sec to figure things out
[03:08] <space_cadet> gravityblock, voice
[03:08] <space_cadet> gravityblock, sebsebseb http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1097278
[03:09] <dick-richardson> how can I check the status of my UPS at the command line? The GUI's nice, but I'm writing a script.
[03:09] <ZING> everybody ready for the april 1st virus?
[03:09] <dreamy> sebsebseb: do u know why the live cd freezes after it does all the tasks and stop readyg ?
[03:10] <sebsebseb> ZING: email fool jokes in here, won't go well, I expect
[03:10] <sebsebseb> ZING: ops might even kick people out for it
[03:10] <_Whipper> dreamy: 'cos its so cold ?
[03:10] <sebsebseb> ZING: April not email
[03:10] <ZING> the one thats on the news and crap
[03:11] <Flannel> ZING: This is a place for Ubuntu support.  For general chatting, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[03:11] <Pyles17> there is a virus, but it is for windows
[03:11] <ZING> that ms offered a qurt of a mill $ to find the devs
[03:11] <_Whipper> ZING: old..
[03:11]  * Pupuser402-1 is on linux, so i dont care bout that virus threat
[03:11] <space_cadet> anyone else want to help further yahoo voice support on linux?
[03:11] <ZING> hmmm well fine then... be grouchy :P i'll take it to off topic then
[03:11] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: not as such, since I don't like Yahoo much, because.... but that's off topic here
[03:11] <Pyles17> so no help with the intel 3945 card not working?
[03:12] <kd5zmc> ok send the link one more time pease
[03:12] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1097278
[03:12] <kd5zmc> thanks
[03:12] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: Skype does voice, but   I don't think much else for Linux does sadly :(
[03:12] <ZING> oh yea i do need some support... for some odd reason my firefox doesn't have the window border around it anymore unless i hit f 11 twice... its annoying
[03:12] <ZING> and sometimes if i click on a link in a chat it makes the window border go away again
[03:12] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, yah, however converting all your friends to skype just because you have linux?
[03:13] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: how about Google Talk instead?  ,but you would have to run a Windows virtual machine for it
[03:13] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: since sadly Google haven't  ported it to Linux yet, if they ever will
[03:13] <_Whipper> !ot
[03:13] <_Whipper> lol
[03:13] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, well if you are going to talk vm.... yahoo works fine inside a vm
[03:13] <ZING> google talk is supported with pidgin
[03:13] <space_cadet> zing voice
[03:13] <keith_> It seems that the information dd reads from /dev/sda (or wherever) is not kept up to date and seems to be arbitrarily updated after a while. I tried the sync command, but this did not help. Does anyone know how to force the kernel to update what dd sees?
[03:13] <ZING> voice?
[03:13] <space_cadet> zing hence "talk"
[03:13] <sebsebseb> space_cadet:  yeah of course it does
[03:14] <space_cadet> lol
[03:14] <ZING> i just use spark to use my voice sorry
[03:14] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: a Windows vm for a voice app dosan't sound to bad
[03:14] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, it's just, there should be native linux support for yahoo voice, but yahoo decided to be mean and not provide any specs
[03:14] <Intrepid> Can someone tell me what I need to install to configure color schemes for KDE applications running in gnome?
[03:15] <_Whipper> i used skype in win & lin.. not much difference there..
[03:15] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: yeah well,  Yahoo may soon become MS as well,  just the CEO they had before said no, but that woman may say yes, if there's another offer.  however that's OT here
[03:15] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, the only problem I ran into was back in 8.04 and vbox (cant remember the ver)  there was lag, actually more like clicking between the vm and my sound card
[03:15] <metalforever> anyone here experienced with virtualbox and network
[03:15] <metalforever> ?
[03:15] <ythe1300> VB yeah'
[03:15] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, yes it is.
[03:15] <ythe1300> what's up?
[03:16] <Svenstaro> metalforever, yes, whats the problem?
[03:16] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: maybe a vm for yahoo and google talk :D
[03:16] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: then try and convert your freind to gt :d
[03:16] <metalforever> Alright, I am running windows xp under virtualbox in ubuntu
[03:16] <space_cadet> lol
[03:16] <metalforever> the wireless works
[03:16] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: and you can chat to them on pidgin on Ubuntu, when you don't want voice
[03:16] <metalforever> but the connection is shoddy
[03:16] <metalforever> and it drops
[03:16] <scream> What is the best backup system for ubuntu with GUI?
[03:16] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, yep
[03:16] <metalforever> multiple times, and i end up having to unplug and replug the adapter many times.
[03:16] <sebsebseb> !best |  scream
[03:16] <Svenstaro> metalforever, wait, the virtualbox itself iniates a wlan connection?
[03:17] <Flannel> !backup | scream
[03:17] <_Whipper> and then you have the little black box, called "phone"
[03:17] <metalforever> well, i have it set up to use the host connection
[03:17] <Svenstaro> metalforever, put my name in front of your replies or I wont see you all the time
[03:17] <metalforever> sure^.
[03:17] <space_cadet> Svenstaro, prolly just using a usb filter to give it to the vbox
[03:18] <scream> !sbackup
[03:18] <metalforever> Alright, settings in virtualbox are as follows
[03:18] <ythe1300> flyback
[03:18] <_Whipper> !rsync
[03:18] <space_cadet> metalforever, you should pastebin them
[03:18] <Svenstaro> metalforever, you dont have a virutalbox problem if its about wireless.
[03:18] <zloog> pizza
[03:18] <hustla> hey guys
[03:18] <space_cadet> !pastebin | metalforever
[03:18] <melik> whats the command to find the IP of my comp
[03:18] <hustla> i have display problem
[03:18] <Tophu> ok I had the nvidia 180.29 drivers installed from the website and I installed made the mistake of turning on the 177 drivers in the "hardware drivers" section no when I boot up "X" won't load :-( can anyone help me undo this?
- cable connected, Intel POR/1000 T Server, Host Interface wlan0
[03:18] <ythe1300> !flyback
[03:18] <hustla> i want my resolution to be 1024x786
[03:18] <_Whipper> melik:nvidia?
[03:18] <otm> tell me, internet people, what leads to a better career; mechanical engineering or computer science?
[03:18] <hustla> and am not getting that opton
- course it is.  Only have the problem when im using virtualbox
[03:19] <Flannel> otm: #ubuntu-offtopic not here, thnks.
[03:19] <metalforever> computer science
[03:19] <melik> whats _Whipper ?
[03:19] <zloog> melik: ifconfig
[03:19] <Tophu> I did ctrl+alt+f1 and did sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:19] <Svenstaro> metalforever, you should probably scale that card down to intel pro desktop
[03:19] <metalforever> but it may be obsolete in a few years
[03:19] <ythe1300> otm: what do you like to do better?
[03:19] <zloog> melik: or just whatismyip.com if you want wan ip
[03:19] <melik> zloog, how about the external IP
- doesnt work then
[03:19] <hustla> helloooo
[03:19] <_Whipper> melik: sorry, wrong address :)
[03:19] <kd5zmc> hi
[03:19] <hustla> can u help me please
[03:19] <sebsebseb> !helpme
[03:19] <melik> yeah ifconfig gives my home network IP the 192.168.x.x
[03:19] <Svenstaro> metalforever, well you need the proper drivers of course, remember, its windows.
[03:19] <melik> but i want the external ip :/
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: hi and yes we can help
[03:20] <otm> ythe1300: never tried either before, but i've always kind of wanted to learn prgramming and learn about computers
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: probably
[03:20] <zloog> melik: Need it for a script?
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: just ask your question
[03:20] <zloog> melik: because whatismyip.com is easy to remeber if you dont
[03:20] <hustla> am not getting the option for my resolution to be 1024x786
[03:20] <hustla> d maximum is 800x600
- I tried using the Windows Xp interface to detect the and use the card, and I installed the drivers with the cd from the adapter, its still a no go.
[03:20] <Rotund> In Jaunty, how does a USB connection detection work?
[03:20] <lesterc> does anyone knows if ubuntu-install has any bugs against EFI-based machines? (I have a couple of Mac Pros here which one of them refuse to boot ubuntu)
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: did you intall the graphics card driver?
[03:20] <melik> yeah i know that; but id prefer a simple command.. :/
[03:20] <ythe1300> otm: well I think that you should do more research
[03:20] <Svenstaro> metalforever, get the drivers manually. It's Windows.
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: system > administaration > hardware drivers
[03:21] <melik> i dont want to open firefox and open whatsmyip,org everytime
[03:21] <ythe1300> they are very different
  , What im saying is, i tried that.
[03:21] <Rotund> I'm having a problem with attaching a USB soundcard not even throwing a dmesg
[03:21] <sebsebseb> !jaunty |  Rotund
[03:21] <Svenstaro> melik, you can probably netcat to your router and get the IP-
[03:21] <Tophu> is there a way to undo the driver install from system > administration > hardware drivers (from the cmd line?)
[03:21] <hustla> hold let me check
[03:21] <april_> Hi all, I was wondering, if I was to use a backup .IMG file, and I wanted to install its contents in wine, would I need an image mounting program? if so, which is most compatible with WINE?
[03:21] <Rotund> sebsebseb, sorry
[03:21] <latit> melik: if you dont have static wont it change?
[03:21] <_Whipper> graph-drivers should be auto-inst. when booting from live-cd/dvd..
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Tophu: maybe, but  if you re boot your computer and go into recovery mode, you can restore X, and bye bye your driver
[03:21] <Svenstaro> metalforever, I mean, go to intel.com and download the drivers. Unstable connections are caused by bad drivers but not by VMs
[03:21] <otm> ythe1300: i've done loads, i find them both rather drole, but it's the only decent career path I see myself pursuing without having to take a year out
[03:21] <Pyles17> can someone help me with an intel 3945 wireless card that doesn't work?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[03:22] <Tophu> how do I get to recovery mode?
[03:22] <zloog> melik: there is no command for that that doesnt refrnce an internet commputer
[03:22] <metalforever> alright.  will try
[03:22] <metalforever> thanks.
[03:22] <hustla> no its not there
[03:22] <melik> aww allright
[03:22] <melik> ill prolly just write a bash script to get it from whatsmyip.org
[03:22] <melik> thanks a lot
[03:22] <Huufarted> clear
[03:22] <projkt4> hi, im having a problem installing nmap-4.85BETA has anyone been able to install it to 8.10
[03:22] <projkt4> ?
 no its not there
[03:22] <Pyles17> sebsebseb: thanks. but i tried that, it didn't help. the 3945 has problems, but they are all somewhat unique
[03:23] <_Whipper> melik: np, thats the way in this # :)
[03:23] <april_> How do I go about mounting an ISO in WINE?
[03:23] <zloog> melik:   if you absoulely need it. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-check-you-external-ip-address-from-the-command-line.html
[03:23] <sebsebseb> april_: ask in #winehq
[03:23] <april_> ah k, ty
[03:23] <Svenstaro> april_, you don't. You mount it on your system and access in wine.
[03:23] <ythe1300> otm: maybe you can take an intro to eng class at a local college, remember that it is not easy and both involve a good deal of math
[03:23] <space_cadet> april_, why do you want to mount an iso in wine?
[03:23] <_Whipper> seebseb: dont u have ANY other answers?
[03:23] <ythe1300> but they can both be very fun
[03:23] <april_> because multi disks install wont work with wine
[03:23] <Huufarted> Anybody here ever have an issue with SSH transfer speeds?  Trying to SFTP a file over gigabit and it only moves at 5-6 MB/sec.  When using Samba I push 50 MB/sec.  Any ideas?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> _Whipper: what was the issue again?
[03:23] <projkt4> after running ./config in the unpackaged folder i get no errors
[03:24] <_Whipper> "google or check it out from somewhere else.." :P
[03:24] <keith_> How do the files in /dev work? I am having trouble finding out details.
[03:24] <april_> multi disc*
[03:24] <space_cadet> april_, aah   ask winehq
[03:24] <otm> ythe1300: I think I'm past that stage now, i've confirmed my offer at the uni lol
[03:24] <april_> ah k, ty very much
[03:24] <otm> ythe1300: just having doubts
[03:24] <Svenstaro> Huufarted, sshfs is for security not high speed. CPU speed is critical for sshfs.
[03:24] <zloog> keith: What kind of information do you need?
[03:24] <Tophu> www.ipchicken.com to get external ip address
[03:24] <projkt4> but when i run make i get an error "make[1]: g++: Command not found"
[03:24] <Huufarted> Svenstaro, gotcha.  Any recommendations for moving at max bandwidth?
[03:24] <ythe1300> otm: anyway you should not put your life in the hands of someone on IRC :)
[03:24] <zloog> projkt: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:24] <Huufarted> Svenstaro, since it's a LAN, I think I'll just use standard FTP
[03:25] <ythe1300> otm: but I have meet a lot of fun peole in the few eng classes I have taken so far.
[03:25] <otm> ythe1300: you people are good teachers
[03:25] <keith_> zloog: Well, it seems that when reading directly from a device driver (eg. /dev/sdc2) the information is not always current with what is shown by nautilus, ls, etc. So I am wondering how these devices actually work.
[03:25] <Svenstaro> Huufarted, you could manually adjust the encryption level but honestly, if you're not moving files from russia to japan, it isn't forth using anything else than maybe SFTP or HTTPS.
[03:25] <sebsebseb> !ot
[03:25] <ythe1300> otm: and am hving fun in programing.
[03:25] <ythe1300> otm: ?
[03:25] <_Whipper> !lol
[03:25] <Flannel> ythe1300: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:26] <ythe1300> k
[03:26] <_Whipper> !otm
[03:26] <Huufarted> svenstaro, that was SFTP.  SFTP is the transfer protocol with SSH
[03:26] <Flannel> _Whipper: Please stop that.
[03:26] <projkt4> thank you  zloog. i'll try that now
[03:26] <Huufarted> svenstaro, but I have it taken care of using FTP.  :)  50 MB/sec again.
[03:26] <hustla> can anyone give me their xorg file
[03:26] <otm> !_Whipper
[03:27] <sebsebseb> hustla: if someone gives you there xorg file, it may have a differnet setting, and so not be any good for your card
[03:27] <_Whipper> Flannel: my point was to sebseb.. nev mind..
[03:27] <Svenstaro> Huufarted, you are right of course, I hought you were using SCP (which you could try in this case).
[03:27] <matty_b> does anyone know which vim ubuntu comes with?
[03:27] <matty_b> is it vim-full, or just vim?
[03:27] <hustla> yeah but my xorg file is blank
[03:27] <Svenstaro> matty_b, vim-tiny
[03:27] <Huufarted> Svenstaro, I'll try SCP but I figure the speed will be the same.
[03:27] <Flannel> matty_b: it's vim-tiny, you want to install "vim" to get a real vim.  vim-full includes a GUI (gvim)
[03:27] <keith_> I don't like vim-tiny
[03:27] <Huufarted> Svenstaro: give me a minute, I'll let you know if there's a speed diff.
[03:27] <matty_b> alright thanks.
[03:27] <Svenstaro> Huufarted, as I said, if security isn't critical, just use samba, nfs, ftp, http, wahtever.
[03:27] <Pupuser402-1> get vim-full, uninstall all the other "vim's"
[03:28] <Huufarted> Svenstaro, not possible since one's a Winblows machine.  No big deal, it's on a LAN so FTP will work fine.
[03:28] <matty_b> on the command line, how might i find out which vims i have installed in order to remove them?
[03:28] <Svenstaro> Pupuser402-1, no need, they conflict anyway.
[03:28] <Flannel> matty_b: dpkg -l | grep vim
[03:29] <matty_b> may be a dumb question, but how does running 'vim' run 'vim-tiny'?
[03:29] <Huufarted> Svenstaro: SCP is also poor with the transfer speeds.  Again, I'm not worried about it.    Intel Atom CPU works perfectly fine for me as a file server!  ;P
[03:30] <durt> hustla, what do need to custom configure?
[03:31] <hustla> i have nothing in my xorg file
[03:31] <matty_b> Huufarted: i type 'vim', and it runs vim-tiny, as the package 'vim' isn't installed. i'm wondering how this is done.
[03:31] <Huufarted> matty_b: gotcha.
[03:31] <durt> hustla, that's normal, what doesn't work?
[03:31] <hustla> the grafix
[03:31] <hustla> d resolution
[03:32] <zloog> projkt4: you were missing the c++ compiler. the package is just a bunch of common tools for compiling things from source
[03:32] <Huufarted> matty_b: have you checked the aliases currently in use?
[03:32] <Svenstaro> matty_b, /usr/bin/vim-tiny was symlinked to /usr/bin/vim
[03:32] <keith_> What happens when someone writes to /dev/null? Where does the input go? Or when someone reads from /dev/random? Where does the output come from?
[03:32] <Huufarted> matty_b: there ya go
[03:32] <durt> !resolution | hustla
[03:32] <matty_b> aha, thanks Svenstaro.
[03:32] <proj3ct2501> anyone here ever tried to setup remote desktop??  over the internet.  could use some help here, would be most appreciated.  thanks!
[03:32] <zloog> keith: the answer to both questions is nowhere
[03:32] <Flannel> keith_: /dev/null just... goes nowhere.  random and urandom read from the random sources.
[03:33] <durt> hustla, the last link
[03:33] <Svenstaro> keith_, null makes it disappear in the void of your kernel within one tick and random shows you every tick's gibberish of your kernel.
[03:33] <sebsebseb> proj3ct2501: which computer do you want to conenct to?
[03:33] <tonsofpcs> anyone know of a software vision mixer / production switcher?
[03:33] <pyrak> help with viewing streaming quicktime in firefox?
[03:33] <_law_> hi all :)
[03:34] <sebsebseb> !multimedia | pyrak
[03:34] <projkt4> when i run nmap now i get "bash: /usr/bin/nmap: No such file or directory"
[03:34] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: i have ubuntu setup on my laptop at home, and i travel with an eepc, eeebuntu running.  need to connect to it over the net to access it, etc
[03:34] <Svenstaro> pyrak, mplayer or vlc or totem mozilla plugin
[03:34] <projkt4> i know this has to do with a script, but i cannot remember where that script is
[03:34] <keith_> zloog, Flannel, Svenstaro, But what makes it do that? Is it an inherent part of the kernel? Is there programming somewhere that handles that?
[03:34] <sebsebseb> proj3ct2501: ok you want to do VNC over SSH
[03:34] <Svenstaro> keith_, yes
[03:34] <Flannel> keith_: `man random` gives you some more detail
[03:34] <sebsebseb> !vnc | proj3ct2501
[03:35] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: well, either is fine, just need to get it up and running, ideally secure, lol
[03:35] <matty_b> is there any way to list packages that i've installed above and beyond what came with the original install?
[03:35] <abhra> hi
[03:35] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: ok, ill check out that link ^_^
[03:35] <zloog> keith_: Yes to both. Linux uses a monolitic kernel meaning that the drivers all live within the kernel. both of those files are considered devices
[03:35] <sebsebseb> proj3ct2501: yeah that link should help, and I know how to do  VNC over SSH :)
[03:35] <chrisrio> wow, my workmates are assholes
[03:36] <melik> zloog, that script didnt work
[03:36] <matty_b> i've been keeping a text file with a list of what i install for when i need to reformat, but it's not automatic.
[03:36] <sebsebseb> !ot | chrisrio
[03:36] <sebsebseb> :D
[03:36] <melik> i wrote this instead.. http://omploader.org/vMWdyZA/pasta
[03:36] <Flannel> chrisrio: Please mind your language, and keep non-support topics out of the channel, thanks.
[03:36] <_Whipper> chrisrio: arent we all..
[03:36] <abhra> i've a question.could i ask it here?
[03:36] <Svenstaro> !ask | abhra
[03:36] <keith_> zloog: is it compiled into the kernel? or would it be some sort of module?
[03:37] <keith_> zloog: What if I wanted to create a "device" that was identical in behavior to /dev/null, how would that be done?
[03:37] <hhp2k> Hey everyone :) In the default Hardy installation, how do you access the compiz config menu (terminal or otherwise)?
[03:37] <zloog> keith_:  could be either, but I belive both of those are in the vanilla kernel
[03:37] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: cool, ill give the article a read and see how it fgoes, hopefully i can set it up from that point :)
[03:37] <Svenstaro> keith_, get the kernel from kernel.org, look for a device driver file called zero or null and look at it.
[03:38] <asdf_n00b> I've got an issue with my MX500 laser keyboard & Mouse combo.  I have to disconnect and reconnect the bluetooth dongle everytime I reboot.  I know it's a known issue cause I've had it before, I just can't remember if there's a quick fix for it
[03:38] <_Whipper> asdf_n00b: i remember you
[03:38] <zloog> keith_: Thats the kind of thing you would want a book on http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_1_9?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=linux+device+drivers+3rd+edition&x=0&y=0&sprefix=linux+dev
[03:38] <Svenstaro> keith_, there are plently of tutorials for writing kernel device drivers
[03:38] <abhra> how to save the opened channels in xchat while closing it?
[03:38] <hustla> durt:
[03:38] <hustla> repeat what u said
[03:39] <hustla> wen i typed that thing it jus shut down d pc'
[03:39] <keith_> Svenstaro, zloog, I don't specifically want to write a driver, I am just trying to understand how they work. Though a tutorial or book may help accomplish that.
[03:40] <abhra> i mean when i reopen it i want to be logged in automatically in the last opened servers
[03:40] <Svenstaro> keith_, it's actually simpler than you think.
[03:40] <asdf_n00b> anyone have an idea? maybe run a command at startup that does the same thing as unplugging/replugging the usb dongle?
[03:40] <monkeyb> Is there a way I can just download the files needed for an upgrade to jaunty? (i.e. apt-get? I know there is an option, but not sure if that path is supported for ubuntu)
[03:41] <cam-> hey guys.. got a little problem in the CLI.. i'm 99.9% sure that ubuntu supports this ethernet chipset out of the box.. but for whatever reason its not setting up a device for it
[03:41] <Flannel> monkeyb: You can, yes.  Jaunty is still a development version, you should ask for details in #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <keith_> Svenstaro: The question that is actually plaguing me is what happens when I read from /dev/sdc2, for example. Does it read directly from the drive? or is there some indirection or abstraction involved?
[03:41] <matty_b> alright i've read the dpkg and dpkg-query man pages. is there any way to see what packages i've installed/removed since i first installed ubuntu?
[03:42] <armence1>  Hi all, I have this CSV file which when I open with either the spreadsheet program or vim displays the information with no problem, but when I try to open the same file with gEdit I get gibberish, some of it in asian characters... Can anyone help me figure out what is going on?
[03:42] <tonsofpcs> armence1: don't use gedit?
[03:42] <cam-> the chipset according to lspci is an AMD 79c970, which is a the virtual chipset under ESXi... i've setup ubuntu under ESX before no problems!!
[03:42] <Svenstaro> keith_, well it can't read directly from the drive. I'm not a low-level developer but I know that *how* files are read depends a lot on your file system, the device driver, the kernel.
[03:43] <armence1> tonsofpcs: Well, the problem, is that I need to make sure the problem is not actually with the file... Because if it is there is a problem with the program that is generating it
[03:43] <abhra> monkeyb press alt+f2 and enter "update-manager -d" (without the quotes)
[03:43] <EtFb> I've tried and failed twice now to create a VMWare virtual machine running Xubuntu.  It does the installation, then I restart and it just sits there.  What am I doing wrong?
[03:43] <tonsofpcs> armence1: try a different file?
[03:43] <Svenstaro> keith_, you can try directly reading from your drive: sudo cat /dev/sda > ~/gibberish and see what it looks like
[03:43] <Svenstaro> EtFb, are you running 64bit by any chance?
[03:43] <keith_> Svenstaro: I am doing so with dd, but the information it is reading does not seem to be up to date with recent drive changes.
[03:44] <marcosRz> Why does Evince dont play a gif file?
[03:44] <GeorgeAScott> hi. i'm wondering if there's any way to start the postfix config that runs after you apt-get it... my /etc/postfiz/main.cf is empty
[03:44] <EtFb> Svenstaro: Host is 32 bit WinXP although I believe this is an AMD64 processor, but everything is 32 bit apart from that.
[03:44] <ganymede> marcosRz, try playing it in firefox
[03:44] <armence1> tonsofpcs: That doesn't solve my problem, if a different file works, then it says nothing about the ability of my program to generate that original file...
[03:44] <tech0007> im on xubuntu, & I always get "fbsetbg: something went wrong while setting the wallpaper. run 'display ...blah blah from an exterm" this msg never goes away...any suggestion?
[03:44] <marcosRz> ganymede, I know but I tough evince played :X
[03:44] <Svenstaro> EtFb, try enabling / disabling some of the vmware guest extensions like APIC, I know thats a big issue with vmware.
[03:45] <tonsofpcs> armence1: if a different file doesn't work in the viewer, from a different source, the viewer is screwed up
[03:45] <armence1> tonsofpcs: Oh, I tried that, the viewer appears to work fine...
[03:45] <epalm> ubuntu 8.10: i'm using synaptic to uninstall a few items.  these items, when initially installed, also installed extra files they depended on.  what happens to those now?  it's possible that nothing relies on them anymore.  how can i manage this?
[03:45] <matty_b> apt-get autoremove, i believe
[03:46] <hhp2k> Hey everyone :) In the default Hardy installation, how do you access the compiz config menu (terminal or otherwise)?
[03:46] <Faithman> unsure
[03:46] <quit> I'm reluctant to update my ubuntu build :\ I've installed Ubuntu for the third time in my life - And I've been using it for two weeks only. Seemingly, everytime I update it something goes horrible wrong.
[03:47] <matty_b> epalm: 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[03:47] <yoasdf> !codecs
[03:47] <cam-> ummm.. what's more interesting is that the kernel module for my ethernet chipset is being loaded according to lsmod.. but still, no ethernet device in /dev! :(
[03:48] <yggdrasil> hello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?
[03:48] <EtFb> Svenstaro: I can't see any mention of APIC anywhere in the VMWare console.
[03:48] <mistya> hi there!
[03:49] <RedMushroom> can anybody give me a crash course on how to use smart boot manager? i thought it was just a lone exe file, but it's turning out to be more complex, and i don't understand
[03:49] <sebsebseb> quit: use 8.04  and then you don't really need to upgrade untill the next long term suppourt
[03:49] <cam-> anyone know why i wouldnt have a network device ? :/
[03:50] <quit> sebsebseb, How do I check what version I'm runing again? :P
[03:50] <tritium> quit: lsb_release -a
[03:50] <axisys> my laptop screen keep going to dim and I use the function key to add light.. it happends when it runs on battery.. how do I disable this behavior?
[03:50] <RedMushroom> what's DJGPP, and why do i need it to run sbm with dos?
[03:50] <sebsebseb> quit: yeah what the op said
[03:51] <alevine> what's the command that will auto-reguess your xorg.conf?
[03:51] <quit> I have 8.10 - Should I downgrade?
[03:51] <theDigitalAngel> Java applications are unable to connect to the net under Intrepid ... Any ideas?
[03:51] <danbhfive> quit: what problems are you having?
[03:51] <EtFb> RedMushroom: It's a port of the gnu toolchain to Windows, a bit like Cygwin.
[03:51] <sebsebseb> quit: LTS releases aren't exactly a downgrade, because they are LTS.
[03:51] <cam-> theDigitalAngel: no proxy? because java apps dont pay attention to the system proxy
[03:51] <EtFb> quit: I used Kubuntu 8.10 for a few weeks and downgraded happily when I saw what a disaster KDE4 was.
[03:51] <nado> axisys, System->Preferences->Power Management
[03:51] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: How do I set java specific proxy?
[03:52] <RedMushroom> EtFb: what do i do with it once i download it?
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: ah ha I see
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: you don't like KDE4 :d
[03:52] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: http_proxy wont work I guess in that case ...
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: 8.04 is the last version that offers both KDE3 and 4 from the repo
[03:52] <cam-> right click the java app i think, under there is properties.. all i know is you need to set it in Java it doesnt pay attention to http_proxy
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: so yes if you want KDE4 put 8.04 on
[03:52] <nado> axisys, go to On Battery Power and make the changes you want
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: I meant KDE3
[03:52] <cam-> same with flash :/
[03:52] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: Lemme try that ...
[03:53] <axisys> nado: i dont have the On Battery.. only On AC Power and General
[03:53] <sebsebseb> quit: and then instead of installing the whole of KDE4  you could just install  some of  the  better KDE4 apps  and use in Gnome/KDE3  in 8.04.  once you got the KDE4 libs on
[03:53] <codeshah> hey guys, I am setting up a server @ home for a little wiki, nothing serious, and other test items... I already have an ubuntu desktop on my other laptop for working. Should I go with ubuntu for server or centos?
[03:53] <axisys> nado: is it because I am running on battery?
[03:53] <quit> danbhfive: None really, it's just that everytime I upgrade something goes wrong - Once firefox stopped working, today my resolution went down and try as I may I couldnt get it back up - When I restarted it would change at random from a640 to 800
[03:53] <quit> That sort of stuff
[03:54] <sebsebseb> quit: 8.04 has another two years of suppourt, so :D
[03:54] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: Nothing there. Any way to do that using command line?
[03:54] <axisys> nado: hmm.. interesting!
[03:54] <cam-> anyone know why i wouldnt have a ethernet device (eth*) in /dev. Kernel module is loaded accorded to lsmod and the chipset is supported
[03:54] <danbhfive> quit: yeah, xorg has been a difficult upgrade...
[03:54] <codeshah> hey guys, I am setting up a server @ home for a little wiki, nothing serious, and other test items... I already have an ubuntu desktop on my other laptop for working. Should I go with ubuntu for server or centos?
[03:54] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: hey that looks good.  i will try that whenn i get home, i have to configure it from there.  the only thing is though, it seems a little difficult to setup.  essentially all i need is to have full access to that laptop from anywhere i connecct from
[03:54] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: There used to be a nice java control panel
[03:54] <april_> does anyone know how i can access a windows computer on my wireless network, i just want to file share ^__^
[03:54] <axisys> nado: now after second try it shows up
[03:54] <n8tuser> codeshah -> toss a coin
[03:54] <kitche> cam-: is it ethernet device?
[03:54] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: I forgot the name of the package ...
[03:54] <sebsebseb> proj3ct2501: yeah the lap top your connecting to needs an SSH account
[03:55] <nado> axisys, strange :)
[03:55] <cam-> needs to be in the CLI, so no network-manager :(
[03:55] <sebsebseb> codeshah: you can use Ubuntu Desktop and put on the server stuff there
[03:55] <projkt4> if i put an executable file in /user/local/bin i should be able to run that executable from anywhere in the system correct?
[03:55] <kitche> cam-: well if you do not have a eth0 as ifconfig tells you then the device is not seen or is not supported by linux what card is it?
[03:55] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: yah, the dynamic thing is messing me up though, i just created an account on dynDNS, i think i can use that
[03:55] <sebsebseb> quit:  completly differnet version from 8.04  of xorg in 8.10
[03:55] <codeshah> sebsebseb, thanks
[03:55] <april_> never mine =] i found it
[03:56] <cam-> kitche: it
[03:56] <kitche> cam-: ? is that device or something
[03:56] <cam-> kitche: its a virtual machine, the kernel module is loaded, but there is no /dev/eth* for it
[03:57] <kitche> cam-: what is the virtual machine program your using?
[03:57] <n8tuser> cam- -> even for regular interfaces not even a vm, there are no such thing as /dev/eth0
[03:57] <cam-> the chipset is supported.. ive installed ubuntu under vmware esx before and its worked fine.. this machine is copied from another esx server
[03:57] <theDigitalAngel> Java applications are unable to connect to the net under Intrepid ... Any ideas?
[03:57] <projkt4> like if i run "ifconfig" from any directory and it works, and i can tab complete that command, how do i add to the list of apps that i can tab-complete/run from anywhere
[03:57] <skate2_> is it apt-get remove or apt-get uninstall, to remove software?
[03:57] <kitche> cam-: what does ifconfig -a tell you
[03:57] <EtFb> RedMushroom: No idea, sorry.  I was just identifying the acronym.  DJGPP is like 15 years old; I'm surprised anyone still bothers with it.
[03:57] <durt> skate2_, the first
[03:57] <cam-> now its loading the kernel module but its not creating the ethernet device
[03:57] <n8tuser> projkt4 -> look around for a tab_complete script
[03:57] <RedMushroom> if i type sbminst -t us -d 0 at the dos prompt, and press enter, what will it do?
[03:57] <cam-> *checks*
[03:58] <projkt4> i don't neccessarily want to just tab-complete
[03:58] <EtFb> Bother - how do I boot in recovery mode using a Live CD?  I need to figure out why my Xubuntu installation is b0rked.
[03:58] <cam-> ok.. i do appologise its there.. its now named itself eth2.. was there ever a /dev/eth* ? or am i just stupid?
[03:58] <n8tuser> cam- -> even for regular interfaces not even a vm, there are no such thing as /dev/eth*
[03:59] <RedMushroom> do i need to have any other files to use with sbminst.exe?
[03:59] <zloog> projkt4: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/316
[03:59] <cam-> hrmm.. maybe im thinking of another distro? i thought there was a /dev for it.. thanks anyway
[03:59] <sebsebseb> quit  oh  no wonder I didn't get a reply to my KDE3/4  stuff,  I thought you said  the thing about KDE4 being a disaster, but it was EtFb
[03:59] <ROFLBERRY> Welcome to the internets! :D
[03:59] <CertifiedBus> does anyone have much experience with Synergy?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> EtFb: so your running 8.04 with KDE3?
[04:00] <ROFLBERRY> Yes, we create synergy everyday here on the internets!
[04:00] <durt> CertifiedBus, a little
[04:00] <EtFb> sebsebseb: Yeah, I used it and hated it.  YMMV of course, but I had no patience for it.
[04:00] <fearful> Stupid question but can conficker harm linux?
[04:00] <Flannel> ROFLBERRY: How can we help you today?
[04:00] <n8tuser> CertifiedBus -> my experience sofar, it has not work yet
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> lol
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> I got it to work
[04:00] <sebsebseb> EtFb: what's  YMMV?
[04:00] <n8tuser> fearful -> wait for the answer tomorrow
[04:00] <ROFLBERRY> I am trying to figure out how I can internet.
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> but it randomly discons the client
[04:00] <matty_b> your mileage may vary
[04:00] <fearful> n8tuser, ;)
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> well...
[04:00] <durt> fearful, not in the way you think it can
[04:00] <ROFLBERRY> I accidentally my whole hard drive. :(
[04:00] <fearful> durt, explain?
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> seems to be when there is inactivity
[04:00] <EtFb> !ops
[04:00] <Flannel> EtFb: Hmm?
[04:01] <EtFb> NEver mind, he's gone.  Did you do that?
[04:01] <CertifiedBus> @durt does the config for whether or not a client must respond stay on the server or client?
[04:01] <durt> fearful, it won't execute o a linux box but if it's get's going like people think it will it can ddos anything. And this is ot.
[04:01] <sebsebseb> EtFb: yeah he did, but now you told every op to look here :d
[04:01] <kravlin> my network gives me a connected then disconnected not and when i run anything to try to make it work it  tells me that it can't find host (on another computer) can someone help?
[04:01] <tritium> EtFb: who's gone?
[04:02] <fearful> durt, I see
[04:02] <EtFb> sebsebseb: Sorry.  Don't know how else to get an op's attention.  is there a better way (ie less intrusive)?
[04:02] <cam-> theDigitalAngel: try  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/ControlPanel
[04:02] <durt> CertifiedBus, you mean quicksynergy or synergy.conf?
[04:02] <cam-> just a guess.. i just did a quick google for you
[04:02] <sebsebseb> EtFb: using their name
[04:02] <Flannel> EtFb: you can alert us in #ubuntu-ops, yes.
[04:02] <n8tuser> projkt4 -> oh there is /etc/bash_completion script
[04:02] <abhra> !seek borderkind
[04:03] <CertifiedBus> @durt I used quicksynergy initially but followed the instructions from SF to get it to boot automatically so I can control the client at login and after
[04:03] <EtFb> sebsebseb: The chat program I'm using doesn't seem to show who's an op.
[04:03] <sebsebseb> EtFb: I think they hide it
[04:03] <sebsebseb> EtFb: sort of
[04:03] <ROFLBERRIES> Flannel, you're a rude little cock sucker.   Here goes my config: http://pastebin.com/dab3fec9
[04:03] <n8tuser> kravlin -> what have you done to troubleshoot?
[04:03] <durt> CertifiedBus, did you configure /etc/synergy.conf. There's ana example in /usr/share/doc/synergy/examples
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ok don't let that guy in soon again, if he complains in ubuntu-ops
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Flannel: that was a pretty nasty one
[04:04] <abhra> xhat help needed
[04:04] <EtFb> sebsebseb: Clearly there are things I have no idea about with IRC...
[04:04] <sebsebseb> EtFb: same here
[04:04] <kravlin> n8tuser: well, we isolated it to this laptop through trying different ways, my wireless works but i need wired. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot.
[04:05] <techqber1> How can I suspend ubuntu 8.10 from fluxbox?
[04:05] <CertifiedBus> @durt stay tuned one sec
[04:05] <sebsebseb> EtFb: which client?
[04:05] <EtFb> sebsebseb: KVIrc. Sitting here at work on my Windoze box trying to build a Xunbuntu VM...
[04:06] <n8tuser> kravlin -> okay, can you describe and elaborate on your network layout? what is connected to what? what devices?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> EtFb: not sure about that cient, but  google xchat 2 and that's  meant to be a good one for Windohs
[04:06] <Sal--> any help?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> !ask
[04:06] <CertifiedBus> @durt hmm, cant find it but I am wondering will it matter if ubuntu is the client
[04:06] <CertifiedBus> vista is the server
[04:07] <Sal--> sebsebseb, i aked several times
[04:07] <durt> CertifiedBus, no just start synergyc with vista's IP.
[04:07] <Sal--> asked even
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Sal--: my bad, I missed it, just saw that, ignore that one then
[04:07] <EtFb> sebsebseb: Naah, this is good enough.  I'll just haunt #ubuntu-ops next time a bot comes calling, though with this channel I guess the ops are pretty focused so I don't need to, since they usually notice anyway.
[04:07] <alevine> how can I set up my computer to use the intel driver for my onboard-graphics card?
[04:07] <EtFb> Now... what's the command to fix/install grub on a machine that's had it damaged somehow?
[04:08] <kravlin> n8tuser: i'm on a school network, called the network tech etc and everything's running fine on their side. i have 3 computers the other 2 have no problems. they're all on a switch. they think it's gotta be something on my side (which is wholly possible.) I've always kinda been wary of networking on ubuntu but my wireless works fine. it's just my wired that doesn't.
[04:08] <sebsebseb> !grub
[04:08] <disappearedng> is there a "tab" option in lynx?
[04:08] <CertifiedBus> @ durt is there a way to stop the server from auto disconnecting clients? I know there is a config setting but I thought it was off by default
[04:08] <sebsebseb> EtFb: so yeah the how to's,  but you can overwrite Grub with a new one
[04:08] <luddite> hi all - i upgraded 8.10 this morning and also removed pulse audio. now after reboot i hit the login screen and a dialogue opens that says "Authentication Failed". i hit ok - and it pops up again without giving me a chance to enter my password ever. It looks like its trying to auto-login as the single user is selected. Please helps - its basically bricked the laptop.
[04:09] <n8tuser> kravlin -> okay do this, post in pastebin your    ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n; cat /etc/resolv.conf; cat /etc/network/interfaces
[04:09] <durt> CertifiedBus, sorry, never used synergy on windows.
[04:09] <CertifiedBus> @durt, aha
[04:09] <ZykoticK9> disappearedng, i've never seen a "tab" function in any of the test based browsers...
[04:09] <CertifiedBus> @durt thanks for the info though
[04:09] <CertifiedBus> I mean, it works flawlessly right now
[04:10] <CertifiedBus> typing this from my Vista machine
[04:10] <n8tuser> luddite -> you have your livecd still? boot from it to recover
[04:10] <kravlin> n8tuser: i can't there's no wireless here on campus. they won't let us set up wireless in our dorm rooms. i'm using another computer.
[04:10] <luddite> n8tuser - i can do get into the console easily enough
[04:10] <luddite> so i can fix it there
[04:11] <n8tuser> kravlin -> then you have to copy the results, or put it in a usb dongle to transfer over then post
[04:11] <n8tuser> luddite -> if you can get into a console, you can log in okay?
[04:11] <EtFb> Damn, the installation must be really frakked.  I can't get grub to do anything with that virtual hard disk.
[04:12] <Sal--> i'm really in a weird situation cause i can get the mount list locally from smbclient, but when i run smbclient outside the network, i can't seem to get it :(
[04:12] <Ingsoc> anyone got a mirror for the nmap script to check for conficker?
[04:12] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys whats the package i have to install in 9.04 to get the opensource ati catalyst drivers?
[04:12] <Ingsoc> main sites down