[04:04] <pingswept> [erisco]  eth0? Is that what you mean?
[04:04] <slacktyro> braniff, i already read that but i'm not able to solve it
[04:04] <bruenig> youser, hmm, you got a lot of work ahead of you
[04:04] <jaks> youser: actually, only grub. sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:05] <kitche> youser: nope you don't edit /etc/fstab at all
[04:05] <kitche> youser: unless you want to mount partitions from both distros into the other one
[04:05] <youser> but will i be able to access both hard drives on either version while running>
[04:05] <[erisco] > pingswept, whatever the application is asking for. It is saying it needs an interface to capture packets
[04:05] <kitche> youser: yes
[04:06] <pingswept> [erisco]  You're talking about ethereal?
[04:06] <kholerabbi> how do I change the fileowner of a file in the terminal?
[04:06] <npodges> jaks, i hate to say it, but i'm about to give up and try the lirc in the repos.
[04:06] <[erisco] > pingswept, yes indeed
[04:06] <npodges> is there any chance of it working?
[04:06] <[erisco] > pingswept, is eth0 yet another? heh
[04:06] <gavinbaker> !networkmanager
[04:06] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[04:06] <bruenig> youser, to access both HDs you will have to edit fstab and grub
[04:06] <jaks> npodges: the repo's are ancient, and you probably have no hope of getting them to work on any recent ubuntu release
[04:06] <pingswept> [erisco]  Perhaps try starting it as root? It may not be able to capture traffic as a normal user.
[04:06] <youser> ok ok
[04:06] <youser> cuz i recently got a 200gb hard drive
[04:06] <pingswept> [erisco]  Hang on a second; let me check . . .
[04:07] <youser> i have new dapper on it now
[04:07] <jaks> npodges: but then again, its probably worth a try - you never know!
[04:07] <youser> but my old ubuntu has all my settings
[04:07] <youser> i wanted just to use the new one as storage
[04:07] <[erisco] > pingswept, it is in root ^.^ thanks for taking the time to check, I'm trying to puzzle it out too
[04:07] <youser> but couldnt get my comp running
[04:07] <bruenig> youser, you could have just created another partition and stored stuff on it, you don't need a whole new install
[04:07] <kitche> youser: you probably have the 200gb drive as master
[04:08] <youser> i do, now
[04:08] <pingswept> [erisco]  eth0 is likely the name of your first ethernet card, which is the interface it's looking for.
[04:08] <youser> and the 10gb old ubuntu breezy  updated to dapper as slave
[04:08] <Werokh> ok, actually ubuntu did find my usb nic, but how do i set the ssid and wep key via command line? the wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500) says to use the gui, but I don't have a gui
[04:08] <[erisco] > pingswept, my mistake. I had originally started it up as a normal user, which I was aware of. I started it up as root, didn't see anything different, same error. Went to the config, and eth0 popped up
[04:09] <jaks> Werokh: yes you do! System -> Adminstration -> NEtworks
[04:09] <[erisco] > pingswept, you were right all along ;)
[04:09] <DonnieD> well ubuntu comes with the drivers for the chipset that linksys wusb54g uses.  I get it to register as ra0usb but when I try to log on to the router it freezes...
[04:09] <pingswept> [erisco]  I forgot that ethereal is now called wireshark. Oh, OK, good.
[04:09] <wolfbane99> hey every one
[04:09] <[erisco] > pingswept, same deal though right? or is wireshark newer?
[04:09] <Jbirk> Hello
[04:09] <Jbirk> How is it going?
[04:09] <tgelter> hey all. I'm looking for a cheap (but worthwhile) sata raid card so that I can ditch fakeraid...it would only need to have 2-4 ports and support raid 0. Any suggestions?
[04:09] <wolfbane99> good
[04:10] <Jbirk> I have a Netgear WG311V3
[04:10] <Jbirk> Is it compatible with Ubuntu?
[04:10] <youser> could i now go back to running my old breezy dapper with my new dapper as just storage?
[04:10] <wolfbane99> i just joined ubuntu today
[04:10] <pingswept> [erisco]  Same program. There was some dispute over the Ethereal name a few months ago.
[04:10] <[erisco] > pingswept, you said something about trolling for passwords. is something like that going to show up under the "info" column?
[04:10] <wolfbane99> no more windows
[04:10] <pingswept> [erisco]  Or maybe it's been a year.
[04:10] <darnell_> why does evolution tell me that the calendar ive selected is read-only?
[04:10] <darnell_> when i try to make a new appointment or task?
[04:10] <pingswept> [erisco]  Good lord, why did I ever start this?
[04:11] <pingswept> [erisco]  But try telnetting somewhere, and then look at the packets captured.
[04:11] <wolfbane99> i was wondering if some 1 could help me please
[04:11] <[erisco] > pingswept, oh don't get any ideas. I cannot even get ethereal on the school computers, unless it has a windows version
[04:11] <youser> i just ned help permanently mounting my old ubuntu drive as a boot
[04:11] <[erisco] > pingswept, but the student numbers and usernames are very very easily available. All you have to say is "I forgot my student number" and they'll hand you the sheet :P
[04:12] <[erisco] > pingswept, it'll have everyone in the class on it
[04:12] <\Dj\Krit\> does ispconfig have an irc room?
[04:12] <wastrel> !mount
[04:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:12] <wastrel> well that sucks
[04:12] <jaks> [erisco] : ethereal does have a windows version
[04:12] <youser> cuz it took me a month to get my ubuntu settings set up
[04:12] <kitche> [erisco] : umm there is a windows version of it :)
[04:12] <pingswept> [erisco]  Well, it wasn't my idea. Or at least it shouldn't have been.
[04:12] <wastrel> !fstab
[04:12] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:12] <pingswept> wolfbane99: what's up? Problem?
[04:12] <\Dj\Krit\> or can anyone help me with ispconfig
[04:12] <kitche> [erisco]  but wireshark is better it seems now
[04:12] <youser> thanks
[04:13] <[erisco] > pingswept, I am far more interested about learning more about networking rather than trying to be malicious on our poor school's networking job
[04:13] <kitche> [erisco]  since wireshark as a few nice features that ethereal doesn't have
[04:13] <jaks> \Dj\Krit\: do you mean ifconfig? or a seperate application?
[04:13] <[erisco] > kitche, name 'em ;)
[04:13] <pingswept> [erisco]  Ooh, what are they?
[04:13] <Jbirk> I need a wireless card
[04:13] <Jbirk> I have a Netgear WG311
[04:13] <Jbirk> will that work?
[04:13] <[erisco] > pingswept, what are what? :S
[04:13] <pingswept> [erisco]  Accch. I meant that last bit toward kitche.
[04:13] <wolfbane99> can some 1 help im a noob to ubuntu
[04:14] <[erisco] > pingswept, no problem
[04:14] <keithhhhh> I killed GRUB re-installing xp in my LINUX/XP system ... how can I get it back?
[04:14] <wastrel> !grub
[04:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:14] <kitche> [erisco]  well wireshark and ethereal are the same application in reality but you can find hte features of it at http://wireshark.org
[04:14] <foureight84> i'm trying to install XML::Smart through apt but i can't seem to find it. can anyone help?
[04:14] <pingswept> [erisco]  But that's great that you're interested in networking. Go dissect a TCP stream, and you'll be ubersomething.
[04:14] <[erisco] > pingswept, I am trying to connect to myself with telnet. Except, I don't know the port it is trying to use, and the connection is refused. I'm missing something in the equation..
[04:15] <pingswept> [erisco]  That would be telnetd.
[04:15] <wastrel> telnet is port 23
[04:15] <wastrel> why aren't you using ssh
[04:15] <pingswept> You need a program to listen for connections, which is not running by default.
[04:15] <pingswept> wastrel: he wants to try to sniff his own password.
[04:15] <wastrel> fun fun
[04:16] <[erisco] > wastrel, you bet ;)
[04:16] <JNeverMind> ivebeen running teamspeak server in xp and slack10 without every any probs.  but ive recently been testing ubuntu server 6.06 and few times a day all connected clients get kicked at the same time
[04:16] <wastrel> well you can telnet to any open port
[04:16] <[erisco] > pingswept, I'll install it. thanks for the name
[04:16] <wastrel> got a web server or mail server ?
[04:16] <JNeverMind> i installed ubuntu server on 2 seperate pcs, and its the same prob
[04:16] <pingswept> wastrel: good point. great for debugging mail servers.
[04:16] <foureight84> can anyone tell me what the package name is to install XML::Smart through apt?
[04:16] <wastrel> if you're just sniffing for packets it's exactly the same thing
[04:17] <sethk> foureight84, that's CPAN
[04:17] <[erisco] > pingswept, bah? I installed telnetd, opened up the telnet prompt, tried to connect to myself... connection refused. Are the configurations I am missing?
[04:17] <kitche> JNeverMind: probably an odd issue has to do with how the server is setup could be number of factors really iptables the ts server I would start with
[04:17] <kitche> [erisco]  you have to start telnetd
[04:17] <pingswept> [erisco]  Use ps to see if telnetd is running.
[04:18] <foureight84> sethk, what?
[04:18] <sethk> ordinarily telnet would be started by the inet daemon
[04:18] <sethk> foureight84, that's  Perl package that you get using CPAN, the perl module system
[04:18] <[erisco] > pingswept, nope :P
[04:18] <JNeverMind> im the only one who doesnt get disconnected, im connected from in the lan
[04:18] <foureight84> ah thanks
[04:18] <[erisco] > pingswept, okay here is another one of those intelligent questions. How do I start it? :D
[04:18] <pingswept> Not sure. Hmm.
[04:19] <wastrel> /etc/init.d/telnetd start
[04:19] <wastrel> sudo
[04:19] <foureight84> thanks sethk
[04:19] <wastrel> unless it's running under inetd
[04:19] <wastrel> then it's more complicated
[04:19] <wastrel> does anyone still use inetd?
[04:19] <[erisco] > wastrel, well it said the location did not exist
[04:19] <sethk> wastrel, sure
[04:20] <wastrel> [erisco] :  ls /etc/init.d | grep telnet
[04:20] <sethk> [erisco] , sounds like it isn't installed yet
[04:20] <[erisco] > it is installed, I just did for sure
[04:20] <Blinker_> i'm having a bit of an interesting difficulty with my partitions. i have 3 seperate areas listed as 'unallocated' and gparted wont let me combine them for one partition, is there a way to fix this?
[04:20] <[erisco] > wastrel, what is that supposed to do?
[04:20] <wastrel> looks for anything with telnet in the name in /etc/init.d
[04:20] <[erisco] > wastrel, and if it just returns back to the command line?
[04:21] <wastrel> then nothing :]
[04:21] <wastrel> there's no hits
[04:21] <sethk> [erisco] , then it isn't installed
[04:21] <wastrel> it might be installed but wrapped up in inetd.
[04:21] <[erisco] > sethk, sudo apt-get install telnetd I just ran it
[04:21] <wastrel> i think debian likes inetd for telnet server
[04:21] <JNeverMind> ive set teamspeak to run as a service
[04:21] <sethk> wastrel, yes, the default is to run it from inetd
[04:21] <ArrenLex> "record macro" is disabled in OOo impress. Why? How can I enable it?
[04:21] <sethk> wastrel, the program name is in.telnetd
[04:21] <[erisco] > down with telnetd and up with inetd?
[04:22] <wastrel> in which case you need to edit /etc/inetd.conf  and enable telnet (prolly uncomment the telnet line) then run  /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[04:22] <kitche> wastrel: all distros do but doesn't mean you have to use it though really
[04:22] <JNeverMind> " /etc/init.d teamspeak start stop restart works good
[04:22] <sethk> kitche, true, but for a newbie who doesn't know how to create his own init script, it's easier
[04:23] <gss6> can someone help me with compiz?
[04:23] <[erisco] > wastrel, when I went to remove telnetd, it said it did not exist?
[04:23] <jaks> gss6: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:23] <wastrel> you're going to make me install telnetd eh
[04:24] <[erisco] > wastrel, AHH, inetd removed it when I installed it. I guess they would conflict
[04:24] <pingswept> [erisco]  I think installing telnetd adds a line to inetd.conf
[04:24] <[erisco] > perhaps?
[04:24] <npodges> gss6, what's the question
[04:24] <pingswept> So all you have to do is restart /etc/init.d/inetd
[04:25] <[erisco] > pingswept, no such file or directory =\
[04:25] <pingswept> But you did install telnetd?
[04:25] <John2583> how do i turn off hal from starting on boot?
[04:25] <wastrel> telnetd installs without inetd
[04:25] <sethk> [erisco] , no, that makes no sense.  inet starts telnet, but it doesn't conflict with it.
[04:25] <[erisco] > pingswept, yes
[04:25] <wastrel> i'm installing inetd now.
[04:25] <John2583> i dont see hal in /etc/init.d
[04:25] <wastrel> inted isn't installed on his system.
[04:25] <pingswept> Hmmmm.
[04:26] <sethk> [erisco] , so it wasn't erased by installing inetd
[04:26] <slacktyro> bye all, good night
[04:26] <sethk> wastrel, well, then doubly he didn't delete telnetd by installing inetd  :)
[04:26] <[erisco] > sethk, I am just as confused, I installed telnetd, then it vanished
[04:26] <sethk> [erisco] , do ls -l /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[04:26] <[erisco] > sethk, now I have both, connection still refused. let me see if it is running
[04:26] <sethk> [erisco] , you edited the inetd configuration, and started inetd?
[04:26] <pingswept> It seems that I have an inetd.conf with a line referencing telnetd, but no entry in init.d corresponding to inetd.
[04:27] <[erisco] > sethk, syntax error in that command you gave me
[04:27] <gss6> npodges, when i try to apt-get compiz i get the following error
[04:27] <[erisco] > sethk, I am scrolling back up now to read it again
[04:27] <gss6>   compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[04:27] <gss6> E: Broken packages
[04:27] <wastrel> the inetd package installs /etc/init.d/inetutils.inetd
[04:28] <[erisco] > sethk, this is what is in the file
[04:28] <[erisco] > telnet		stream	tcp	nowait	telnetd.telnetd	/usr/sbin/tcpd	/usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[04:28] <[erisco] > sethk, nothing *seems* commented
[04:28] <sethk> [erisco] , that looks correct.  make sure that /usr/sbin/in.telnetd exists.  make sure inetd is running.  make sure you aren't confusing inetd and xinetd.
[04:29] <wastrel> hosts.allow is empty also
[04:29] <wastrel> but so is hosts.deny
[04:29] <wastrel> how many linux users does it get to install a telnet server on ubuntu :]
[04:29] <[erisco] > sethk, I get this "telnetd: getpeername: Socket operation on non-socket *new line* ."
[04:29] <Lil_Shank> what do i do with a .so file?
[04:30] <mnepton> telnet?!
[04:30] <[erisco] > wastrel, well when you are dealing with ME, it could take just a few ;)
[04:30] <mnepton> what year is this?
[04:30] <wastrel> mnepton:  1992
[04:30] <mnepton> wastrel: explains why my copy of OS/2 2.1 hasn;t arrived yet.
[04:30] <sethk> [erisco] , that's bizarre
[04:30] <pingswept> mnepton: 1989.
[04:30] <sethk> Lil_Shank, a .so is a shared library (so means shared object)
[04:31] <mnepton> [erisco] : why not ssh?
[04:31] <youser> hey does anyone know why my hard drive didnt mount?
[04:31] <[erisco] > sethk, the *new line* part literally means a new line
[04:31] <sethk> Lil_Shank, generally it would bo in /lib or /usr/lib, but why are you dealing with a .so instead of installing something?
[04:31] <youser> i entered this into fstab: /dev/hdd1       /media/breezy   linux      auto,exec,rw
[04:31] <pingswept> mnepton: he wants to try to sniff his own password.
[04:31] <[erisco] > mnepton, because then I cannot sniff out my own password with ethereal ;)
[04:31] <sethk> [erisco] , make sure there is an entry in /etc/services for telnet
[04:31] <mnepton> kinky.
[04:31] <wastrel> you can telnet to a different server
[04:31] <[erisco] > I am SO productive! :P
[04:31] <wastrel> /etc/services has telnet by default.
[04:31] <Lil_Shank> sethk, i was downloading binaries for a new program and it just had .so files in it
[04:31] <Werokh> if i rearrange the order of the interfaces in \etc\networking\interfaces, is that the order that it will try to start them?
[04:32] <sethk> wastrel, yes, I know, but he is getting a message with a blank socket number
[04:32] <digivore> How do i add folders to my PATH ?
[04:32] <mnepton> Werokh: yes
[04:32] <Werokh> ok this is strange, but my wlan won't work until the eth0 cable is plugged in
[04:32] <[erisco] > sethk, there is a line there indeed. "telnet		23/tcp"
[04:32] <Werokh> but then it works fine...
[04:32] <sethk> [erisco] , ok.  The message may be misleading.
[04:33] <mnepton> digivore: PATH=${PATH}:/yadda/blah/foo/bar
[04:33] <[erisco] > sethk, I still cannot telnet to myself if that is what you mean
[04:33] <sethk> Werokh, you mean if you disconnect the cable it continues to work?
[04:33] <mnepton> digivore: (then export again)
[04:33] <youser> anyone nw how this is wrong?
[04:33] <youser> /dev/hdd1       /media/breezy   linux      auto,exec,rw
[04:33] <jaks> linux, as the fs?
[04:33] <jaks> try ext3 ?
[04:33] <jaks> or 2
[04:33] <sethk> [erisco] , I'd have to see what it thinks is a non-socket operation, which would mean running strace which I suspect you aren't quite ready for.
[04:33] <sethk> jaks, ext3
[04:34] <Werokh> no i guess not seth, i unplugged it and it dies
[04:34] <sethk> [erisco] , something is still not set up correctly.
[04:34] <digivore> mnepton, can i add that to a file so it will always do that?
[04:34] <youser> i had linux as type
[04:34] <pingswept> [erisco]  I got the same error.
[04:34] <sethk> Werokh, then it isn't working at all, you are just running through the wired interface.  :)
[04:34] <jaks> youser: change it to ext3
[04:34] <mnepton> digivore: yup, any of your shell's rc files
[04:34] <[erisco] > sethk, if this is 1992 technology, I'd have hoped it'd be a tad bit simpler :P
[04:34] <pingswept> It's almost as if nobody is using telnet any more.
[04:34] <Werokh> but I have both interfaces set up with a different ip address, and when it's plugged in, I can ping the wlan ip address
[04:34] <wastrel> heh
[04:34] <sethk> [erisco] , pingswept it's possibly a DNS Issue
[04:35] <digivore> mnepton, where would i find one of those rc files?
[04:35] <jaks> pingswept: why would you want to use telnet though?
[04:35] <[erisco] > pingswept, actually, I've seen it used on so many intranets heh
[04:35] <mnepton> digivore: in your ~/
[04:35] <jaks> i mea, apart frmo sniffing your own password
[04:35] <wastrel> i installed telnetd and am getting the same error trying to start it.
[04:35] <Ykstort> how do I know if my kernel's patched to 2.6.15-26.45 ?
[04:35] <sethk> [erisco] , it's doing a lookup (getpeername) and failing.  that should be a reverse DNS Lookup, so make sure reverse dns lookups are working.
[04:35] <mnepton> Ykstort: uname -a
[04:35] <[erisco] > sethk, want to walk me through that? heh
[04:35] <Ykstort> uname -a says 2.6.15-26 but I know it's got some patchness
[04:36] <mlalkaka> Since it doesn't support extents, does an ext3 filesystem ever need defragmenting?
[04:36] <wastrel> can you do reverse dns on a non routable ip?
[04:37] <mnepton> ok, it's now officially my monday morning. off to the office. bbiab.
[04:38] <sethk> [erisco] , I have to do a work thing.  If I can, I'll come back to you.  I venture to speculate that nobody tests telnet before a distro version is released, and you are just running into a bug.  Can you use ssh instead?  That's what most people are doing, and there are windows clients for it that are known to work.
[04:39] <KS-Fan> hi
[04:39] <wastrel> [erisco] :  if there are ANY web or mail servers on your local network, you can still do your packet sniffing.
[04:39] <Ykstort>  how do I know if my kernel's patched to 2.6.15-26.45 ?
[04:39] <Ykstort> uname -a says 2.6.15-26 but I know it's got some patchness :\
[04:40] <wastrel> or any servers really
[04:40] <[erisco] > wastrel, there is one web server. Only problem, it is on this computer, and it is on the OTHER OS, it's a Windows IIS 5, I was looking a bit into ASP .NET
[04:41] <[erisco] > I'm a learning web developer / web designer
[04:41] <wastrel> [erisco] :  did you install a ssh server on ubuntu?
[04:41] <wastrel> you can telnet to that :]
[04:41] <[erisco] > know xhtml, css, some graphical things around photoshop, PHP 5, a tiny bit of javascript basics
[04:41] <frix__> hi! are there some xgl/compiz users?
[04:41] <[erisco] > wastrel, GAH! okay okay... how do I connect to the SSH server?
[04:41] <wastrel> telnet localhost 22
[04:41] <[erisco] > wastrel, in assumption there is already one
[04:41] <glick> hey has anyone tried songbird?
[04:42] <frix__> i get 'compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed" when i try to install compiz and compiz-plugins
[04:42] <jaks> frix__: yeah, they all sit in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:42] <AfterDeath> any ops here, iPalazGOLD is onjoin spamming
[04:42] <frix__> jaks: thank you
[04:42] <[erisco] > wastrel, connection refused. perhaps not.
[04:42] <eXistenZ> !vim7
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vim7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <eXistenZ> !vim
[04:42] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[04:42] <wastrel> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:42] <petersok> Hi...I am looking for help setting up wpa_supplicant in Ubuntu.  Is this a good place to look?
[04:42] <wastrel> you'll be glad you did someday
[04:43] <jaks> !code
[04:43] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[04:43] <[erisco] > wastrel, CONNECTED!!
[04:43] <wastrel> now send text
[04:43] <glick> anyone try songbird?
[04:43] <wastrel> this is literally how the telnet protocol works
[04:43] <wastrel> type in some text and the server receives it and responds
[04:44] <wastrel> in this case it will respond by closing the connection :]
[04:44] <wastrel> but it's cleartext
[04:44] <wastrel> just like pop and ftp and all that other juicy goodness
[04:44] <wastrel> so you can sniff it in another window and feel the love
[04:44] <[erisco] > wastrel, okay, as soon as I can CHMOD back over the scan results, it should have detected it
[04:45] <petersok> is anyone able to help me get WPA working?
[04:45] <trigg3r> hi
[04:45] <Flannel> !tell petersok about wpa
[04:46] <petersok> thank you Flannel, but I have already been through that and am still having trouble
[04:46] <Bensr20det> what is the best way to use widgets?
[04:46] <Flannel> petersok: then you'd be best served by asking a specific question
[04:46] <wastrel> [erisco] :  actually you could have a longer conversation by telnetting to a remote (internet) server running smtp or pop, which wouldn't immediately disconnect you
[04:46] <wastrel> so you could have a longer conversation.  just don't send sensitive data
[04:47] <[erisco] > wastrel, well right now I am trying to find WHY I cannot CHMOD my files to 777!
[04:47] <wastrel> sudo chmod ?
[04:47] <[erisco] > they are staying only readable and writable to root
[04:47] <RomanLogix> Anyone know what kind of USB wifi works with a eMac/PPC running dapper? My lucent adapter never gets picked up
[04:47] <[erisco] > tried that. I'm puzzled now
[04:47] <wastrel> cp them to your homedir
[04:47] <wastrel> sudo cp.  then sudo chown them to yourself then chmod
[04:47] <AfterDeath> argh
[04:47] <mlalkaka> Since it doesn't support extents, does an ext3 filesystem ever need defragmenting?
[04:47] <Flannel> [erisco] : chances are you don't want to chmod them 777 anyway
[04:47] <wastrel> not defrag
[04:48] <trigg3r> can i ask an IP tracking question? using openVPN on ubuntu 6.06 lts
[04:48] <petersok> ok: I would like to get WPA working on Dapper WITHOUT the network-manager.  I am following the instruction on the wiki for getting wpa_supplicant working, but once I have my configuration file set up and test the connection, wpa_supplicant seems to be unable to establish a wireless connection.  it returns: Trying to associate with 00:40:10:10:00:03 (SSID='kpnet' freq=0 MHz)
[04:48] <petersok> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[04:48] <petersok> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[04:48] <petersok> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[04:48] <petersok> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[04:48] <LoRez> Warning: `petersok' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[04:48] <petersok> Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out.
[04:48] <AfterDeath> any staffers here?
[04:48] <Flannel> petersok: don't paste here.  use pastebin
[04:48] <[erisco] > wastrel, weird, but the logs are not in any sort of text format. not sure how to open them anways *shrug*
[04:48] <Flannel> !paste
[04:48] <AfterDeath> iPalazGOLD is advertising on join
[04:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:48] <eXistenZ> !edgy
[04:48] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:48] <wastrel> heh i don't know ethereal so :]   if they're binary there must be a viewer
[04:48] <eXistenZ> !schedule
[04:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:49] <eXistenZ> erm, soon edgy will be out
[04:49] <npodges> thursday is RC1
[04:49] <npodges> a week later is final
[04:50] <[erisco] > I am downloading something lol, the log is crammed
[04:50] <npodges> whee!
[04:50] <[erisco] > what protocol does telnet use?
[04:50] <Ykstort> iPalazGOLD PMed me the following shortly after I joined this channel: " Hello! I am selling Sony Vaio AR190G Notebooks (Core Duo T2500 2 GHz /17" /2GB DDR2 /200 GB HDD @ 7200 rpm /256MB GDDR SDRam / 17" WUXGA TFT Active Matrix (1920 x 1200)/DVD+-RW- / Blu-Ray disc), brand new for 520 USD or 480 euros, if interested send me an e-mail or msg now<EMAIL_ADDRESS>, Thank You"
[04:50] <Ykstort> Would this be considered spam of some kind?
[04:50] <AfterDeath> yes
[04:50] <AfterDeath> i've been complaining about that
[04:50] <mrio> i've got a question about xfce...anyone?
[04:50] <AfterDeath> noone is doing anything about it so far though
[04:50] <Ykstort> why hasn't it been glined yet >:|
[04:50] <Flannel> Ykstort, AfterDeath, ask in #ubuntu-ops they'll hear you
[04:51] <wastrel> telnet protocol
[04:51] <[erisco] > wastrel, SSLv2?
[04:51] <kmu> mrio, might want to check out #xubuntu
[04:51] <[erisco] > I got something that says "Client Hello"
[04:51] <[erisco] > well, I said Hello lol, maybe it?
[04:52] <wastrel> not likely :]
[04:52] <mrio> where can i get help for xfce on ubuntu?
[04:52] <wastrel> #xubuntu mrio
[04:52] <ivx> hey is there a way to get entire skins for ubuntu that change that loading graphic and everything?
[04:52] <mrio> cool thanks
[04:52] <wastrel> ivx:  afaik it's manual to change each little bit
[04:53] <wastrel> ivx: bootsplash, gdm, gnome splash, gnome themes
[04:53] <jaks> ivx: there's like 4 parts to change. gdm, the loading graphic, window themes, and icons..
[04:53] <eclipse75> does the ubuntu cd have a partition manager on it? need to resize a partition
[04:53] <[erisco] > wastrel, I am not sure what I am supposed to be seeing :(
[04:53] <wastrel> eclipse75:  i think it comes with gparted  not sure
[04:53] <jaks> yeah, or that
[04:53] <ivx> wastrel: how can you change that loading graphic so it isn't brown. do i just have to find it and replace it
[04:53] <eclipse75> thanks wastrel =)
[04:53] <[erisco] > wastrel, cannot see anything other than UDP and TCP
[04:53] <wastrel> [erisco] :  dunno, can you search for the string you entered?
[04:54] <wastrel> [erisco] :  oic   it's TCP
[04:54] <wastrel> telnet would use Tcp
[04:54] <ivx> jaks how do you change that loading graphic after you log on
[04:55] <wastrel> ivx:  you need to change the background of your gnome desktop (even if you have a background image)  and also follow the gnomesplash tutorial.  i forget how to do it.
[04:55] <ivx> wastrel alright i'll play with it
[04:55] <ivx> thanks
[04:55] <[erisco] > wastrel, there are only two TCP packets during the short scan I ran... but the information returned is alien to me
[04:56] <[erisco] > wastrel, what are the things I am looking for to get a password, or to get my "Hello" message?
[04:56] <wastrel> [erisco] :  no idea, i've never used ethereal
[04:56] <[erisco] > wastrel, used anything before?
[04:56] <jaks> ivx, i'm pretty sure its just a png in ~/.gnome2 somewhere..
[04:56] <wastrel> [erisco] :  to sniff packets?  no :]
[04:57] <variant> [erisco] : what you trying to do exactly?
[04:57] <ivx> jaks alright i think i can swing something
[04:57] <ivx> thanks
[04:57] <RomanLogix> where would be the best place to check for PPC/Dapper support?
[04:57] <asymmetry> sup yall?
[04:57] <[erisco] > variant, pingswept said telnet sends out the password (of whatever it may be) without encryption
[04:57] <wastrel> it's really true :]
[04:58] <pingswept> [erisco]  I think this is true.
[04:58] <ppj1010> anyone know if theres a way to control fan speed software wise (not bios)
[04:58] <[erisco] > variant, he said it should show up by scanning the packets going through the network
[04:58] <wastrel> they didn't have encryption in the olden days of the intarweb
[04:58] <[erisco] > variant, but, I cannot find any relevant information
[04:58] <AfterDea1h> finally
[04:58] <AfterDea1h> thankyou whoever klined ipalazgold
[04:58] <pingswept> [erisco]  I disappeared briefly. Did you get telnetd working?
[04:58] <wastrel> pingswept:  i had him telnet to the ssh port
[04:58] <[erisco] > pingswept, uh, no
[04:59] <foureight84> can someone please tell me what the cpan pakage name for the Gtk2 module?
[04:59] <variant> [erisco] : telnet is not encrypted.. i beleive it may well send the password in the clear too.. not 100% on that though. i do know that telnet doesnt support any encryption
[04:59] <wastrel> [erisco] :  try telneting to a remote host.
[04:59] <asymmetry> variant, telnet does send the password in the clear
[04:59] <pingswept> [erisco]  Or find a server to telnet to?
[04:59] <pingswept> Yes.
[04:59] <Flannel> [erisco] , variant, yes.  completely plaintext
[04:59] <variant> [erisco] : there you go
[04:59] <[erisco] > pingswept, I don't have a server that I can think of to telnet to... hmm
[04:59] <[erisco] > pingswept... what about our router?
[04:59] <Mad3Max3> I have a question for all u Ubuntu installer experts!
[05:00] <foureight84> can someone please tell me what the cpan pakage name for the Gtk2 module?
[05:00] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, maybe i can help
[05:00] <variant> [erisco] : telnet to your own ip (not localhost) it will go out and back in
[05:00] <[erisco] > variant I'll try
[05:00] <wastrel> ah
[05:00] <wastrel> that may be the prob.
[05:00] <variant> [erisco] : you need to be running a telnetd
[05:00] <wastrel> he can't get telnetd running, he's using the ssh port.
[05:00] <[erisco] > variant, even when telneting into the SSH port?
[05:00] <wastrel> should be sufficient for this purpose.
[05:00] <wastrel> telnet your.ip 22
[05:00] <pingswept> wastrel: Ah, can you do that?
[05:01] <variant> [erisco] : why are you telnetting to the ssh port?
[05:01] <wastrel> pingswept:  yes.
[05:01] <pingswept> wastrel: That would be brilliant.
[05:01] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, good! well the problem is that the boot disk won't boot my new computer.. it's an AMD64 system. it stalls at mount disk or something
[05:01] <wastrel> variant:  he just wants to see if he can see the packets in ethereal
[05:01] <[erisco] > variant, to get the password lol
[05:01] <pingswept> I have to try that.
[05:01] <wastrel> it doesn't work.
[05:01] <variant> it wont work like that
[05:01] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, what's the architecture and type of the image you downloaded?
[05:01] <variant> you need to be running telnetd
[05:01] <variant> it wont even attempt to authenticate otherwise
[05:01] <kmu> here we go again
[05:01] <wastrel> variant:  he'll still be sending the packets to the ssh server
[05:01] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, I think that the x86 will work on an amd64, but I'm just covering all bases.
[05:02] <variant> wastrel: it wont even attempt to authenticate otherwise
[05:02] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry , I downloaded the Dapper.. 6.06.1 AMD64 bit
[05:02] <wastrel> variant:  you'll get a socket connection and send data packets to the server
[05:02] <variant> wastrel: it will say "are you a telnet server?" "no" "ok, i wont send the password then"
[05:02] <wastrel> the server will barf on them but the packets will be sent.
[05:02] <jaks> gooooood night
[05:02] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, okay, when you boot, and it just sits there at mounting disk, try paging over to console 1 or 2, and see if it gives an error message.
[05:02] <eXistenZ> What is the safest way to get vim7?
[05:02] <wastrel> variant:  ok you get telnetd working for him :]
[05:03] <eXistenZ> compile from source?
[05:03] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, I tried an old Knoppix livecd and that booted prefectly. it is a i386 knoppix version thou
[05:03] <wastrel> eXistenZ:  i would guess so
[05:03] <Homer> anyone know a good rythmbox radio station I can listen to
[05:03] <variant> wastrel: has he installed it?
[05:03] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, like I said, page over to console 1 or 2, and see if it gives a message.
[05:03] <[erisco] > variant, yes please :D I was not able to find ANY packets during the scan that had both a source and destination of my IP
[05:03] <wastrel> variant:  yes, but it won't run
[05:03] <variant> wastrel: why no?
[05:03] <variant> wastrel: why not?
[05:03] <Mad3Max3> ok! will.. do.. one sec.. have the new comp connected to the same screen..
[05:04] <asymmetry> [erisco] , why would you see any packets? it's not like the loopback device uses a scannable interface.
[05:04] <pingswept> [erisco]  You should be able to capture IRC traffic (I just tried it and got jaks "gooooood night" message.)
[05:04] <[erisco] > pingswept, I have been seeing IRC stuff popping up
[05:04] <pingswept> [erisco]  Try telnetting to your gateway, and you should see at least one packet go out.
[05:05] <eXistenZ> wastrel, what about the aap stuff?
[05:05] <wastrel> i dunno from aap.
[05:05] <variant> [erisco] : yeah, you got a router? you can normally telnet onto them
[05:05] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry - I don't have to do anything special since I have SATA drives do I.. like when u install XP u have to create disks and stuff
[05:05] <[erisco] > yay I can see the IRC chat messages, cool :d
[05:05] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, nope. Running on SATA drives right now.
[05:05] <[erisco] > variant, yes I do. I just don't know the password for it
[05:05] <[erisco] > variant, and there is a telnet server with it I do believe
[05:06] <pingswept> [ericsco]  Try loading a webpage. You'll be able to follow the HTTP traffic.
[05:06] <jkku3> ok guys, i have question, my friend's amarok is not playing his mp3 files when he selects them to be played, anybody know what's wrong?
[05:06] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, it'll pick them up as SCSI drives. If you're having that much of a problem, use a different installer image, like the alternate or the DVD image.
[05:06] <variant> [erisco] : send the wrong password to your router then, it wont matter.. you should still see it in there
[05:06] <[erisco] > variant, okay maybe I am wrong. Might have an SSH server
[05:06] <wastrel> eXistenZ:  edgy has vim 7
[05:06] <[erisco] > variant, no telnet server on it :(
[05:06] <wastrel> you might try a backport (?)  or upgrade.....
[05:06] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry , how do I page over to console?
[05:06] <variant> [erisco] : nmap it (nmap -A -vv
[05:06] <wastrel> [erisco] :  telnet google.com 80
[05:06] <variant> [erisco] : nmap it (nmap -A -vv IP
[05:06] <wastrel> then do whatever you want.
[05:06] <[erisco] > variant, it is all SSH, as it is accessed VIA outside world so
[05:06] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, CTRL-ALT-F1/F2/etc.
[05:07] <[erisco] > variant, what is nmap it (nmap -A -vv IP ?
[05:07] <wastrel> why don't we just have you read the telnet RFC :]
[05:07] <variant> [erisco] : run nmap -A -vv yourroutersip
[05:07] <wastrel> you can see the spec and not have to do this empirical stuff
[05:07] <variant> [erisco] : apt-get install nmap first
[05:08] <variant> [erisco] : its a port scanner
[05:08] <[erisco] > variant okay lol
[05:08] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, it gets stuck at the booting the kernel,
[05:08] <[erisco] > variant, I was right, only SSH on it
[05:08] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, by 'gets stuck', what do you mean?
[05:09] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, kernel panic, an error message, nothing at all? Is the hard drive still active?
[05:09] <[erisco] > only SSH on this computer working too
[05:09] <variant> [erisco] : whats wrong iwth telnet? why cant you start it?
[05:09] <variant> [erisco] : apt-get install telnetd
[05:09] <variant> [erisco] : /etc/init.d/telnetd start
[05:09] <[erisco] > variant, well I cannot even remember where I was with starting it. I do have it installed
[05:10] <[erisco] > variant, "bash: /etc/init.d/telnetd: No such file or directory"
[05:10] <asymmetry> Why would you install telnetd?
[05:10] <variant> [erisco] : ok, whatever the init.d script is called
[05:10] <avagant> is there an alsa command for that so i don't have to keep typing aplay into a terminal?
[05:10] <variant> [erisco] : type /etc/init.d/tel and press the tab key
[05:10] <asymmetry> Why are you trying to install telnetd? All he needs is the client.
[05:10] <variant> avagant: why do you keep typing aplay into the terminal?
[05:10] <asymmetry> Unless I'm mistaking this for something else.
[05:10] <[erisco] > variant, you mean a wildcard?
[05:11] <[erisco] > variant, still no file or directory
[05:11] <variant> asymmetry: your mistaking this for somthing else
[05:11] <asymmetry> Gotcha.
[05:11] <avagant> cause i dont know if it's starting itself or if esd is.
[05:11] <ajchace> anyone have a link regarding migration from Debian to Ubuntu?
[05:11] <avagant> Guys I have to tell you, this whole alsa thing is really making me want to stray back to Windows.
[05:11] <[erisco] > variant, I physically looked, no telnet directory
[05:11] <mrio> anybody know why i can only see 3 selections in the dropdown for my screen resolution? i have a whole slew of them in my xorg.conf
[05:11] <variant> [erisco] : avagant what is the probelm exactly?
[05:11] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, this is the error messages.. "190.241885 .. HdC : Ide_intr : huh? expected null handler on exit..
[05:12] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, and there are more like that one..
[05:12] <variant> avagant: what is the probelm exactly?
[05:12] <avagant> variant: The problem is just the hassle of it all, it's so much work to get it done.
[05:12] <variant> avagant: to get what done?
[05:12] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, what drive is hooked up to secondary IDE master?
[05:12] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, and on Buffer, I/o error on device hdc
[05:12] <avagant> variant: If I stop esd it stops all sounds, if i do aplay it does something else. I don't know what else I have to do.
[05:12] <avagant> Sound works, but only when it decides to.
[05:13] <variant> avagant: get rid of esd, its broken and will be dropped sooner rather than later
[05:13] <avagant> I mean is there a linux distro that doesnt' have sound issues?
[05:13] <variant> avagant: i have never had a sound issue with this sound card
[05:13] <[erisco] > well goodnight all, I have an early morning
[05:13] <asymmetry> avagant, yes. Ubuntu. I'm running it right now with no sound issues.
[05:13] <variant> [erisco] : cya
[05:13] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, hmm.. only have 1 sata and one DVD.. the dvd on the IDE
[05:13] <pingswept> [ericsco]  Rock.
[05:13] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, where on the IDE?
[05:13] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, what channel, what position?
[05:14] <Mad3Max3> let me check
[05:14] <avagant> Well apparently my soundcard is supported and yada yada, it's not that I have terrible sound issues it's just so much has to be done to ensure it works semi correctly.
[05:14] <variant> avagant: how about just telling us what the problem is with specifics instead of general "this sucks"
[05:15] <avagant> Alright alright, esd is always on. I turn esd off sound goes bye bye, I have all the alsa related packages yada yada.
[05:15] <avagant> I don't know if alsa just runs in the background or what.
[05:15] <variant> what does yada yada mean?
[05:15] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, on IDE channel 1 Master I have the DVD .. and on the IDE channel 2 Master the Sata Harddrive
[05:15] <ajchace> mrio: are they defined in the "Screen" section?
[05:16] <avagant> I have all the alsa packages that I should need, and yet sound is still squirrely. It works, but only if I specify I'm using alsa and not esd.
[05:16] <JimmyDT> Hey all, i'm having a problem mounting any sort of CD or Floppy
[05:16] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, that's a contradiction in terms. SATA drives don't go on IDE channels.
[05:16] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, I habe channels from 0 to 5..
[05:16] <variant> lol
[05:16] <avagant> flash is way out of wack with anything, xmms hangs when i'm playing anything alsa related.
[05:16] <variant> avagant: you american?
[05:16] <avagant> It's a whole lot of work.
[05:16] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, SATA drives do not go on IDE channels. Period.
[05:16] <avagant> I sure am.
[05:16] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, thats what it says in the Bios
[05:16] <mrio> ajchace yep, for 6 different depths
[05:17] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, Great for your BIOS.
[05:17] <mrio> ajchace: yep, for 6 different depths
[05:17] <wastrel> i have a creative zen micro
[05:17] <stlbadger> hello
[05:17] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, how many SATA ports do you have on your motherboard?
[05:17] <ajchace> mrio: that's interesting....
[05:17] <O2> hello
[05:17] <avagant> like right now i have no esd running at all, but if i load up firefox or anything no sound will play, i have it specifically set for alsa.
[05:17] <virtual-stargaze> avagant: Try using MPlayer, for streaming, the mozilla-mplayer plugin works well.
[05:17] <DigitalNinja> Can you do an install of Ubuntu on a system with 44 mb of RAM
[05:17] <ajchace> mrio: do you have double quotes around each resolution in "Screen"?
[05:17] <variant> avagant: is this dapper?
[05:18] <O2> how can I copy files like this:  *.mp3
[05:18] <avagant> variant: It sure is.
[05:18] <Homer> DigitalNinja: try XUbuntu
[05:18] <mrio> ajchace: yep
[05:18] <variant> O2: cp *.mp3 <location>
[05:18] <Homer> and only use GTK applications
[05:18] <JimmyDT> can anyone help me with ubuntu not wanting to mount anything?
[05:18] <O2> variant: thanks
[05:18] <asymmetry> JimmyDT, what do you mean by not wanting to?
[05:18] <variant> O2: or cp /path/to/*.mp3 <location>
[05:18] <stlbadger> hello, i have ubuntu booting right next to me. problem is it is going wayyy slow and i want to  know when i can start. the pc formerly ran XP amd has a pentium 2 in it
[05:18] <variant> O2: yw
[05:18] <ianmacgregor> JimmyDT: What command are you using?
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> Homer: I was thinking about that but it's a live CD. I don't think 44 megs of ram is enough but I could give it a try. I was thinking of using the alternet CD
[05:19] <ajchace> mrio: is the config file you're editing in /etc/X11/?
[05:19] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, 4 sata ports
[05:19] <JimmyDT> I'm trying to make a grub boot disk, but it won't mount any floppy, both through the GUI and commands
[05:19] <mrio> ajchace: yes
[05:19] <grayscale> what is the apt-get package for SDL?
[05:19] <variant> stlbadger: if its the live cd, it is slow. once it is installed it will be significantly faster
[05:19] <O2> variant:  it says: cp: invalid option --
[05:19] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, so channel 0 and 1 are IDE, and 2 - 5 are SATA. Where's the DVD drive?
[05:19] <ajchace> mrio: check /var/log/Xorg.* log files for errors?
[05:19] <stlbadger> should it be sitting here for 2 hours doing nothing?
[05:19] <avagant> variant: Your card works, but is flash messed up?
[05:20] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, on 2
[05:20] <variant> O2: when i type <location> i mean that you should write in there where you want to copy the files too, not litteraly write "<location>"
[05:20] <variant> avagant: nope, works fine
[05:20] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, is it a SATA DVD drive?
[05:20] <ajchace> mrio: could grep for 'EE' in Xorg.0.log
[05:20] <variant> avagant: how did you install flash?
[05:20] <O2> variant:  I write:  cp *.mp3 /music/
[05:20] <variant> avagant: di dyou use automatix?
[05:20] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, no.. IDE
[05:20] <avagant> no.
[05:20] <JNeverMind> are most ubuntu system logs timestamped?
[05:20] <variant> O2: that should be fine, if the mp3 files are in your current directory
[05:20] <variant> JNeverMind: yes
[05:21] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, dude, you're confusing the shit out of me, here.
[05:21] <avagant> sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree or whatever.
[05:21] <JNeverMind> would it be possible to search logs for a specifictime?
[05:21] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, If 0 and 1 are IDE, and SATA is 2 through 5, how can an IDE DVD drive be on 2?
[05:21] <ajchace> anyone have any links to info about migrating from Debian to Ubuntu?
[05:21] <O2> variant: but it didn't
[05:21] <variant> JNeverMind: yeah less /logfile | grep <time>
[05:21] <mrio> ajchace: ok i'll try...just a sec
[05:21] <JNeverMind> right on
[05:21] <variant> O2: what directory are the mp3's in?
[05:21] <John2583> hald is causing my system to hang on boot. how can I remove the hardware abstraction layer daemon from the init.d startup scripts? I don't see it under /etc/init.d
[05:21] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, your right.. it
[05:22] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, its on 1
[05:22] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, thank you.  Try redownloading and reburning the image onto a new disc.
[05:22] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, got a little cunfused aswell over the term IDE on SATA.. thought SATA was SATA and IDE was IDE.. well
[05:23] <mrio> ajchace: ok, the only errors are xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[05:23] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, They are. IDE = 40 pin. SATA = not.
[05:23] <ajchace> mrio: I don't think that's significant
[05:24] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, so hdc is the bootdisk?
[05:24] <variant> O2: cp /path/to/the/mp3files/*.mp3 /music/
[05:24] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, yes. HDC = IDE1 master.
[05:24] <Jbirk> Hello
[05:24] <ianmacgregor> hi
[05:24] <ajchace> mrio: do you have HorizSync and VertRefresh set in xorg.conf?
[05:25] <Jbirk> I need a wifi card
[05:25] <mrio> ajchace: yes
[05:25] <Jbirk> one that is compatible
[05:25] <Jbirk> help
[05:25] <JimmyDT> asymmetry: the error its giving me (for floppy) is "mount point /media/floppy does not exist"
[05:25] <variant> Jbirk: i heard atheros chips were very compatible. but dont take my word for it
[05:25] <krazykit> Jbirk: ralink and atheros based are good
[05:25] <ianmacgregor> Jbirk: Might have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:25] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, ok! when it comes to Linux im a totally noob.. all the mount and stuff are confusing for me!
[05:25] <Jbirk> I have an RT61
[05:25] <avagant> variant: Is that the wrong way?
[05:25] <ajchace> mrio: and the settings for HorizSync and VertRefresh support the resolutions you're trying to use?
[05:25] <Jbirk> but it won't work
[05:25] <variant> krazykit: i have had some probelms with ralink, so probably atheros are best
[05:26] <mrio> ajchace: um, dunno
[05:26] <asymmetry> JimmyDT, try this: sudo mkdir /media/floppy
[05:26] <variant> avagant: is what the wrong way?
[05:26] <asymmetry> JimmyDT, then retry the mount instruction.
[05:26] <mrio> ajchace how can i tell?
[05:26] <ajchace> mrio: would be a good thing to check on :-)
[05:26] <krazykit> variant: i've never had issues with ralink.  some of the better drivers recently.  rt2500 based was wicked good.
[05:26] <avagant> sudo apt-get install nonfree flash?
[05:26] <krazykit> much better with the devicescape stack
[05:26] <ajchace> mrio: do you have a manual for your monitor?
[05:26] <JimmyDT> nope, same error appears
[05:26] <variant> krazykit: yeah, i only had a rt2750 model
[05:26] <Jbirk> I can't find anything with rt2500
[05:26] <ianmacgregor> avagant: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:26] <Jbirk> I wish I could
[05:26] <asymmetry> Jbirk, WMP54G.
[05:26] <mrio> ajchace: no...it's an old laptop
[05:26] <variant> Jbirk: there are a million and one
[05:26] <avagant> ianmacgregor: Yah.
[05:26] <Jbirk> I have a WMP54G Lnksys
[05:27] <asymmetry> That's rt2500 based.
[05:27] <Jbirk> But, it is RT61
[05:27] <darnell_> how safe is it to upgrade to edgy right now?
[05:27] <Jbirk> Version 4.1
[05:27] <asymmetry> No, it isn't.
[05:27] <ajchace> mrio: those might be the only resolutions supported then
[05:27] <Jbirk> Yes, it is
[05:27] <avagant> My flash is out of sync with sound like crazy.
[05:27] <krazykit> darnell_: #ubuntu+1
[05:27] <Jbirk> It is version 4.1
[05:27] <darnell_> k
[05:27] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, but I had a suspicion on that the CD was the factor messing up the boot.. so I started downloading the ISO again.. both the i386 and the AMD64 one
[05:27] <krazykit> avagant: known problem.  flash sucks.
[05:27] <asymmetry> Dude. No. It isn't. I'm using that EXACT same card RIGHT NOW.
[05:27] <Jbirk> I need version 4
[05:27] <avagant> And for some reason some sites don't work at all.
[05:27] <variant> avagant: try the gpl flash player..
[05:27] <mrio> ajchace: could i bump up those ranges and give it a try? (:
[05:27] <avagant> gpl?
[05:27] <Jbirk> okay
[05:27] <krazykit> asymmetry: keep in mind that there are multiple unmarked revisions to cards ;-)
[05:27] <ajchace> mrio: should be able to google the manufacturer's site for an owner's manual
[05:27] <ajchace> mrio: wouldn't recommend it
[05:27] <variant> avagant: gnash. i think the browser plugin is buggy right now but the standalone player works well
[05:27] <asymmetry> krazykit, that's very true.
[05:27] <Jbirk> so If I put my Linksys WMP54G in my computer, it will just pick it up?
[05:28] <asymmetry> Jbirk, no, but there are a ton and a half short tutorials on how to get it working. It was easy.
[05:28] <julian> where does everyone work? curious
[05:28] <avagant> can i sudo apt-get install that one? Haha
[05:28] <ajchace> mrio: very possible to fry things (screen, videocard, etc) by playing with timings
[05:28] <variant> julian: a datacenter
[05:28] <krazykit> julian: biology TA
[05:28] <asymmetry> julian, US Air Force, computer programmer.
[05:28] <wastrel> <3 biology
[05:28] <variant> julian: a datacenter, in dublin, ireland
[05:28] <julian> cool
[05:28] <Jbirk> how do I get the RT61 working
[05:29] <Jbirk> or the netgear wg311v3 working?
[05:29] <asymmetry> variant, just ordered my fiancee's wedding ring from a store in Dublin.
[05:29] <julian> so just using linux for the heck of it?
[05:29] <iloivar> I think I had an r61t that I could only get working with ndiswrapper
[05:29] <variant> asymmetry: cool, it may sound romantic but dublin is a hell hole, I call it the anus of ireland
[05:29] <ajchace> julian: know anyone working for Syngenta's tech support in Dublin?
[05:29] <asymmetry> variant, that might be, but the ring looks nice.
[05:29] <julian> ha
[05:29] <variant> julian: i use it for work, most of our customers are using it
[05:29] <variant> asymmetry: hehe :)
[05:29] <rex> weird qroblem here...  my letter between o and r doesn't work.
[05:29] <krazykit> julian: no, because i like it.  i like the way it works.  i like the command line.  i like the freedom, i hate windows.  i also use OSX, even though it's entirely unfree
[05:30] <avagant> And then there's some sites that just don't work at all, and that's fun.
[05:30] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, which dist shall I use.. i386 or the AMD64.. is there any major performance diffrence .. will the 32 bits software work in the 64bit?
[05:30] <asymmetry> krazykit, command line ftw
[05:30] <avagant> I know they are flash sites, but it's like BAM WHATS GOING ON
[05:30] <julian> yea i also just like to figure out my problems and fixing it
[05:30] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, if you have a 64-bit proc, use a 64-bit distro.
[05:30] <ianmacgregor> julian: I use Linux because I can dl it for free, install it on a million machines for free and it taught me a lot about computers.
[05:30] <variant> avagant: use windows or macosx then
[05:30] <julian> what linux do ur customer use variant
[05:30] <avagant> variant: nice. haha
[05:30] <Jbirk> Can you give me a link to a wireless card from newegg?
[05:30] <Jbirk> one that will work out of the box with dapper
[05:30] <Jbirk> I have some $$$
[05:30] <Jbirk> but I don't really want to do much to configure it
[05:30] <variant> julian: many different but mostly redhat unfortunatly
[05:30] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, I must agrea on the Dublin statement u just made!
[05:30] <wastrel> pcmcia card?  the cisco ones are nice
[05:31] <julian> u dont like redhat?
[05:31] <rex> so, if I tye the word eole, you can't read it
[05:31] <julian> slow in my opinion
[05:31] <youser> hey is it possible to get my printer inmy panel?
[05:31] <avagant> I wish os x would work on my computer, then I'd be complete.
[05:31] <rex> because the  is missing
[05:31] <variant> julian: not particularly. really poxy setup and annoying to use
[05:31] <mrio> ajchace: does this site tell you anything? http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Solo_Series/P9500/P950002.shtml
[05:31] <lampshade> I use linux because I noticed that one day that I was using vim, gaim, firefox, etc and that all of those programs were OS.  So then I thought, "Why not just make the whole OS that way?"  and I put ubuntu on my laptop as soon as files were backed up.
[05:31] <JimmyDT> sweet, think I got floppy working
[05:31] <ajchace> wastel: have to update firmware or they are less than perfectly stable
[05:31] <avagant> You can't install os x on a windows computer though right?
[05:31] <julian> I c
[05:31] <variant> avagant: i wouldnt konw
[05:31] <julian> has anyone here used Parsix
[05:31] <variant> avagant: know*
[05:31] <avagant> I've used Mac before, and didn't really like.
[05:31] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, but the 32 but version will work aswell.. thouht I read someting about Wine wouldn't work in the 64 bit version
[05:31] <ianmacgregor> youser: I don't think it'll fit, the panel's kinda narrow and you don't want ink running all over the place.
[05:32] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, then go for it.
[05:32] <youser> lol i think ubuntu agrees with you
[05:32] <ianmacgregor> hehe
[05:32] <Jbirk> Help
[05:32] <youser> it wont seemto go up there
[05:32] <Jbirk> I need a wireless card
[05:32] <avagant> Then again I had 10.2.8 which is like light years behind anything else.
[05:32] <Jbirk> Let me get this straight, if I put an RT2500 Wireless card into my computer, it will just work?
[05:32] <avagant> And they apparently like to make programs that only install on the newer os's and not the older ones.
[05:32] <asymmetry> Jbirk, No.
[05:32] <ajchace> mrio: not for timings
[05:32] <variant> Jbirk: correct, that is the plan anyway
[05:32] <John2583> is there anyway to change startup services manually, without using something like bum?
[05:32] <variant> asymmetry: some will
[05:32] <rex> I have tried two different keyboards in both the usb and qs/2 qorts, but no luck
[05:32] <wastrel> ajchace:  the last one i used is 802.11b ---  pretty ancient, but it was reliable and easy to configure.  nowadays i have built-in...
[05:32] <ajchace> mrio: sometimes it's hard to find that kind of info
[05:32] <julian> so I tried out the Parsix distro. its very similar to ubuntu. But its just faster, i mean alot faster
[05:32] <krazykit> Jbirk: it should, yes.
[05:33] <ajchace> mrio: hang on a sec
[05:33] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, are u running a 64bit cpu and the 64bit dist?
[05:33] <Jbirk> So Ubuntu should detect it?
[05:33] <Jbirk> and then let me configure it?
[05:33] <variant> Jbirk: yes it will
[05:33] <youser> no possible way of printer getting on panel?
[05:33] <avagant> Parsix?
[05:33] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, AMD X2 4800+ on AMD64 Dapper.
[05:33] <q83> hey, could someone give me a hand with a problem I'm having with login window?
[05:33] <mnepton> Jbirk: what chipset does that card use?
[05:33] <avagant> !parsix
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parsix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Jbirk> The card I have is RT61
[05:33] <julian> ya, its an Iran distro, but i just switched the lang
[05:33] <variant> Jbirk: you might have a harder time setting up wpa etc but thats annother thing :)
[05:33] <avagant> Ah.
[05:33] <Jbirk> IT is WMP54G Linksys
[05:33] <ajchace> mrio: these are for 1024x768 at 70hz
[05:33] <Jbirk> Version 4.1
[05:33] <avagant> Does it have sound issues? Haha
[05:33] <rex> I have a keyboard malfunction, folks
[05:33] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, does Mythtv work on the 64 bit dist? .. it's a HTPC system that I've built
[05:34] <ajchace> mrio: HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0 VertRefresh     50-90
[05:34] <asymmetry> Mad3Max3, No clue on that one.
[05:34] <variant> Mad3Max3: yeah it does
[05:34] <julian> is ntfs write gona be supported in edgy?
[05:34] <Mad3Max3> variant! good! :)
[05:34] <mrio> ajchace: where'd you find that?
[05:34] <asymmetry> julian, NTFS write is supported in Dapper.
[05:34] <julian> sorry, i meant out of box
[05:34] <ajchace> mrio: just what I have in my config
[05:34] <asymmetry> It does out of box.
[05:34] <julian> its such a pain to get it installed.
[05:35] <asymmetry> julian, and anything running a kernel after 2.6.-something.
[05:35] <npodges> can you install programs on the live cd?
[05:35] <krazykit> npodges: no
[05:35] <asymmetry> I know it's stable on the installed kernel.
[05:35] <mrio> ajchace: mmk, i'm running at 1024x768, so i guess i'll just stick with that
[05:35] <Mad3Max3> That turning 3D desktop that u can see in some of the vids in ubuntus site.. what is that called
[05:35] <variant> npodges: yes
[05:35] <mrio> ajchace: thanks for your help tho
[05:35] <ajchace> mrio: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Video-Timings-HOWTO/index.html
[05:35] <variant> npodges: but thats limmited by how much ram you have
[05:35] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: beryl/compiz
[05:35] <julian> xgl
[05:35] <ajchace> mrio: g2g
[05:35] <variant> krazykit: you can
[05:35] <ajchace> mrio: later
[05:35] <npodges> variant: i want to compile a package, that for one reason or another, i can't compile now.
[05:36] <npodges> variant: i want to boot into the live cd, and checkinstall it into a package
[05:36] <julian> Mad3, its called compiz/xgl
[05:36] <variant> npodges: fair enough, if you have enough ram or swap space activated youcan install build-essential and compile away
[05:36] <npodges> and save it, then install it here
[05:36] <variant> npodges: cool, do it in a chroot
[05:36] <Mad3Max3> Krazykit : ok! that apps is some of the coolest desktops mods!
[05:36] <rex> would there be a software reason for every key excet one working on a keyboard?
[05:36] <variant> npodges: mount your hard disks, mount proc, chroot and install
[05:37] <npodges> i think i screwed up the links to my kernel headers or something...
[05:37] <ianmacgregor> rex: Sounds like a bad keyboard
[05:37] <variant> rex: if its a special key like the fn key on laptops
[05:37] <q83> when I start Login Screen it starts for a second and dies :| anyone know how to fix this?
[05:37] <npodges> because i cant compile somehting that should compile very simply
[05:37] <rex> no, tried two kbds
[05:37] <variant> npodges: apt-get install the knerle headers again
[05:37] <rex> it's a letter
[05:37] <npodges> does that reset the symbolic links?
[05:37] <variant> npodges: you shouldnt nee dthe linux-headers fo rmost compiles
[05:37] <lampshade> Mad3Max3: you will want to hit up ubuntu-xgl for support.  They are good people.  Follow the links at the top for tutorials and then if you have problems hit up the room there for help
[05:37] <ianmacgregor> q83: Define "dies", does it give you any errors?
[05:37] <rex> the one between o and r
[05:37] <npodges> it's for the lirc kernel module
[05:37] <variant> npodges: if you mean /usr/src/linux then no it dont
[05:37] <variant> npodges: ah
[05:38] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: meh.  i think it's irritating and useless.  but i like lightweight apps anyway.
[05:38] <lampshade> npodges: ahhh, doing a mythtv install?
[05:38] <Mad3Max3> Lampshade! ok.. thank you
[05:38] <asymmetry> How does one use the neat XGL/compiz stuff?
[05:38] <q83> Dies as in it says "starting admin app" and then disappears completely
[05:38] <npodges> yes.
[05:38] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference between xen and vmware?
[05:38] <avagant> that gpl can you sudo apt-get install that?
[05:38] <variant> npodges: use uname -a to find your kernel version and install the corresponding header
[05:38] <npodges> i got ivtv to compile just fine, but i used someone else's HOWTO that had me change a couple symbolic links
[05:38] <npodges> for linux
[05:38] <npodges> and build
[05:38] <variant> avagant: gnash
[05:38] <avagant> yah gnash.
[05:38] <ianmacgregor> q83: Ok, that isn't the login screen, that sounds like you are starting gui that needs root pivs
[05:39] <npodges> i have the headers installed though.
[05:39] <krazykit> ubotu: tell asymmetry about xgl
[05:39] <q83> I meant Login Window as in the app that changes your login screen.
[05:39] <rex> oddly enough, I bought a new keyboard when other letters malfunctioned
[05:39] <Mad3Max3> saw something about ppl playing WoW on linux.. is there a emulator that works for that?
[05:39] <rex> they all work now, but one other doesn't
[05:39] <q83> I've searched around the ubuntu forums, lots of people have had this problem but I haven't found a solution that works for me.
[05:39] <npodges> Mad3Max3: it works in wine, with some tinkering, or ootb with the new crossover beta for linux
[05:40] <avagant> ootb?!?! so confused.
[05:40] <npodges> Mad3Max3: which is free for a 60 day trial, and works real well
[05:40] <ianmacgregor> q83: Run this command from a term and see if it returns any errors:  gksu gdmsetup
[05:40] <npodges> out of the box
[05:40] <npodges> sry
[05:40] <rex> so, if it's not the keyboard, what else could it be?>
[05:40] <Mad3Max3> npodges.. cool.. gonna look sweet doing MC on a 42 inch screen! :D
[05:40] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference between xen and vmware?
[05:40] <q83> It says failed to connect to socket, sleep 1 second and retry, retries 5 times and then stops.
[05:41] <thejoeandchip> i think xen is open source
[05:41] <q83> also at the end: "Could not access GDM configuration file."
[05:41] <lampshade> Mad3Max3: yeah I know someone who plays it only on linux--he says it is actually faster than windows because of the way linux did something differently... I don't know exactly but it sounded cool.
[05:41] <ianmacgregor> q83: Ok, now you are further along in solving this problem than you were. Try posting *that* info/error on the forums, it may help someone fix the issue.
[05:42] <q83> alright, I'll give it a shot. thanks.
[05:42] <ianmacgregor> You're welcome :)
[05:42] <digivore> when was dapper released?
[05:42] <Mad3Max3> Lampshade! Yeah.. I heard that too.. but it wouldn't surprise me if it did go faster on Linux. even trough a windows emulator! :D
[05:42] <krazykit> digivore: june, iirc
[05:42] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: urk!  WINE Is Not an Emulator!
[05:42] <ianmacgregor> digivore: 6.06 (month.year) so June 2006
[05:42] <lampshade> Mad3Max3: well that's one of the reasons, usually it goes through WINE which isn't an emulator--it is people actually reverse engineering the Windows API to make things work
[05:42] <wastrel> not really though
[05:43] <wastrel> dapper was released late wasn't it
[05:43] <krazykit> ianmacgregor: year.month, innit.
[05:43] <ianmacgregor> digivore: Sorry, i meant (year)month)
[05:43] <ianmacgregor> krazykit: Yeah
[05:43] <Keyseir> Will anybody here admit to being experienced with VMware?
[05:43] <digivore> ianmacgregor,  cool thanks
[05:43] <ianmacgregor> You're welcome :)
[05:43] <krazykit> Keyseir: experienced enough to have installed it a few times on various machines
[05:44] <Mad3Max3> lampshade.. even better then..
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> Keyseir: what do you need
[05:44] <frantic> hey guys, has Serpentine broke recently for anyone else?
[05:44] <JNeverMind> where can i find the log for the ntp in ubuntu server ?
[05:44] <rex> no, but my letter between o an d r doesn't work
[05:45] <Keyseir> VMWare people: I have a Windows 2000 installation that seems to have gotten buggy. I forgot the installation process for "hacking" vmware tools into an installation, so I don't want to do it all over again. Is it possible to format a drive within my virtual windows machine?
[05:45] <frantic> P or Q?
[05:45] <frantic> or tyui
[05:45] <rex> not q
[05:45] <sethk> JNeverMind, I believe the messages go into one of the system logs, not a separate log
[05:45] <rex> lmnoqrst
[05:45] <rex> see?
[05:45] <JNeverMind> isee
[05:45] <rex> and it's not the kbd
[05:46] <rex> tried two
[05:46] <rex> usb andqs/2
[05:46] <krazykit> Keyseir: erm.  you could put the windows CD in and boot from that, formatting that way.  i don't think vmware will format natively
[05:46] <sethk> JNeverMind, I checked, they end up in syslog, which is /var/log/syslog
[05:46] <Mad3Max3> but wine doesn't work on the 64bit dist ?
[05:46] <Keyseir> krazykit: Put the virtual windows CD in.. hadn't thought of that, heh
[05:46] <JNeverMind> thank you
[05:46] <Mad3Max3> something about Biarch
[05:46] <Mad3Max3> or am I wrong?
[05:47] <Keyseir> krazykit: Trying that now..
[05:47] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: it's a pain to do.  needs lots of 32-bit compat libs.
[05:47] <variant> Mad3Max3: yes it does
[05:47] <variant> Mad3Max3: as krazykit says though
[05:47] <variant> Mad3Max3: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[05:48] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: at this point in computing, 64 bit is not worth it.  maybe in a year or so, but not now.  but that's just my opinion
[05:48] <ajchace> at the risk of being redundant: anyone have any info on migrating from Debian to Ubuntu ? :-)
[05:48] <npodges> its gonna be more than a year or so, imo
[05:48] <krazykit> ajchace: afaik, there's currently no supported path.
[05:48] <rex> so, I take it from the silence on the subject that I've exceeded this channel's hel caabilities
[05:49] <ajchace> krazykit: as in, "we won't hold your hand", or as in "it might work, you break it, you fix it"?
[05:49] <variant> krazykit: for heavy database loads it can perform much better
[05:49] <krazykit> rex: or we don't know your keymap.  i have several letters between them
[05:49] <Lurch21> I'v been trying to copy ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz into /lib/firmware can anyone help me.
[05:49] <variant> krazykit: but generaly not
[05:49] <krazykit> ajchace: both, really.
[05:49] <ajchace> krazykit: because im perfectly willing to break things :-)
[05:50] <rex> keyma
[05:50] <rex> keyma
[05:50] <ajchace> krazykit: ok, thanks for the input
[05:50] <rex> achaderm
[05:50] <sethk> Lurch21, I'm sure that's not what you are trying to do.  Tell his what you need to do.
[05:50] <rex> oele
[05:50] <ajchace> krazykit: think I'll atempt it, and see what happens
[05:50] <rex> a baby dog is a uy
[05:50] <krazykit> rex: so the p?
[05:50] <rex> Yes
[05:51] <krazykit> rex: have a liveCD?  if so, pop it in.  if the p-key works, it's fixable.  if not, you're gonna want to buy a new keyboard
[05:51] <rex> I have a new kbd
[05:51] <rex> both orts
[05:51] <rex> no hel
[05:51] <Shakezula> Hey I have two PPC machines. An iMac with a broken cdrom drive and a Blue and White G3 with a working CDROM drive if I were to take the hard disk out of the iMac and put it in the G3, install Ubuntu, then put the hard disk back in the iMac can I expect it to work?
[05:52] <krazykit> rex: so multiple keyboards fail to print "p"?
[05:52] <rex> yes
[05:52] <sethk> Shakezula, command line stuff, yes,   X stuff, no
[05:52] <ajchace> rex: wow, that's neat
[05:52] <variant> rex: that sounds so unlikley.. unless you were messing iwth the keymap settings
[05:52] <Shakezula> The Blue and White G3's hard disk ribbon cable is hdc, the iMac's I'm guessing is hdb.
[05:52] <rex> not to my knowledge
[05:52] <Shakezula> sethk I can fix the X stuff it's the hard disk cables I'm worried about.
[05:52] <sethk> variant, could be simply that the wrong keyboard map is in effect.
[05:52] <krazykit> rex: ah, now we're getting somewhere.  open a terminal and type xev.  put the cursor over the xev window and hit "p"  see if it spews any output
[05:52] <variant> rex: open a terminal and type xev
[05:53] <variant> rex: then press the p key
[05:53] <variant> is there any output?
[05:53] <rex> no, US english 105 keys
[05:53] <rex> standard
[05:53] <sethk> Shakezula, if the disk designations are different, that's equally easy to fix, as long as you can boot a live cd and mount the file system.
[05:53] <variant> sethk: if you know of any keylayout that is identical to qwerty but doesnt have a p key?
[05:53] <krazykit> rex: not the question.  open xev and see if pressing "P" gives any output
[05:54] <rex> just no letter lmnoqrst
[05:54] <sethk> variant, I do know of a revelant old joke.  the punchline is "it's in my pants"
[05:54] <rex> arg
[05:54] <krazykit> rex: did you open xev and try?  you're not answering the question.
[05:54] <variant> sethk: ants* ;)
[05:54] <sethk> variant, as in "what happened to my P"
[05:54] <Ninja562> Hello, I am using Hoary Hedgehog on an amd 64 and having a few problems with mozilla plugins, any suggestions?
[05:55] <variant> sethk: yeah hehe i go tit
[05:55] <variant> Ninja562: upgrade to dapper
[05:55] <Lurch21> I am new at ubuntu i have been trying to get my wireless device activated. Following steps on a help page. I downloaded ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz firmware as told but i can get past this step of installing it.
[05:55] <rex> I think I have a mobo failure coming on
[05:55] <sethk> variant, but seriously, the keyboard variant doesn't have to have p in a different location, it only needs to assign a different key code to  p.
[05:55] <Ninja562> Dapper heh, is the upgrade path reasonable (I am a feeb)
[05:55] <variant> sethk: im 100% sure there is no such keymap
[05:55] <npodges> is "export GCC=4.0" the right way to set gcc to use version 4.0?
[05:55] <Mad3Max3> Anyone now if Mobitex works trough wine.. is a DOS software.. but does Wine rune DOS applications aswell?
[05:56] <rex> sorry
[05:56] <krazykit> Mad3Max3: you could use dosbox
[05:56] <variant> Ninja562: just change hoary to dapper in sources.list and away you go
[05:56] <Zeenux> do you guys think installing Ubuntu on an external drive is a good idea? And is it safe (keep the internal HD nice and cozy, with no possibility of anything goig wrong?)
[05:56] <variant> Ninja562: at least i think thats the way
[05:56] <krazykit> Zeenux: it'll work as long as you install grub to the external drive and not your main drive
[05:56] <variant> Zeenux: yeah its fine, will be slow though
[05:56] <Ninja562> I will give it a shot, Vielen Danke.
[05:56] <Mad3Max3> Krazykit. ok.. thanks for the tip
[05:56] <npodges> nice and cozy with what? windows?
[05:56] <zenit> Lurch21: which help page are you following? I think you have to put the firmware in /lib/firmware, if I'm not entirely wrong
[05:57] <ianmacgregor> variant: iirc, he needs to upgrade: hoary -> breezy, then breezy -> dapper
[05:57] <rex> I have no idea what it says ,but hitting that letter made it react
[05:57] <variant> ianmacgregor: ok, sounds reasonable
[05:57] <Lurch21> That right
[05:57] <Lurch21> /lib/firmware
[05:57] <grayscale> can someone help me to install the SDL compiler?  I'm trying to find the apt-get packages for it but cant find any
[05:57] <Zeenux> ok, sweet
[05:57] <Lurch21> I'm using a text book
[05:58] <Zeenux> looks like ill be getting ubuntu on my laptop
[05:58] <rex> ] KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x2e00001,
[05:58] <rex>     root 0x136, subw 0x0, time<PHONE_NUMBER>, (848,948), root:(853,996),
[05:58] <rex>     state 0x10, keycode 33 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,
[05:58] <rex>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[05:58] <rex>     XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[05:58] <rex>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[05:58] <rex> KeyRelease event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x2e00001,
[05:58] <rex>     root 0x136, subw 0x0, time<PHONE_NUMBER>, (848,948), root:(853,996),
[05:58] <rex>     state 0x10, keycode 33 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,
[05:58] <rex>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[05:58] <jook> hi
[05:58] <rex>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[05:58] <krazykit> rex: don't spam the channel
[05:58] <ianmacgregor> !paste > rex
[05:58] <rex> i didn't
[05:58] <krazykit> you did.
[05:58] <Ninja562> Variant: where is the sources.list?
[05:58] <zenit> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <jook> hi some ubuntu hacker?
[05:59] <krazykit> rex: ok, so there'y no symbol for it.  this should not be a hard fix, as soon as i figure out the command ;-)
[05:59] <frantic> update: serpentine won't burn this disk because it's WAVs?
[05:59] <variant> Ninja562: as ianmacgregor says upgrade: hoary -> breezy -> dapper
[05:59] <frantic> i wouldn't think gstreamer would have any trouble with wavs
[06:00] <whyso> hi, i am about to install, but perfectdisk is saying my c: pagefile is fragmented, but it wont run correctly on startup, should i go ahead and install?
[06:00] <variant> Ninja562: so change hoary to breezy in sources.list and then do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:00] <Keyseir> krazykit: I don't think it's letting me boot from disc
[06:01] <variant> Ninja562: then repeat those steps changing from breezy to dapper
[06:01] <variant> whyso: never heard of perfect disk
[06:01] <Keyseir> krazykit: Also, I just realized that formatting C would probably delete VMware tools =/
[06:01] <variant> whyso: do you have a spare partition?
[06:01] <whyso> yup!
[06:01] <variant> whyso: shouldnt matter then
[06:01] <whyso> (i need to resize the windows one tho)
[06:02] <variant> whyso: you can do a filessystem check on the windows drive from in ubuntu which is probably a good idea
[06:02] <clintsnet> ;)
[06:02] <variant> whyso: yeah, cd comes witha version of gparted that will do that
[06:02] <clintsnet> I need to get back on ubuntu :-)
[06:02] <variant> whyso: although its a bit out of date (the current gparted release is awsome, full functionality!)
[06:02] <whyso> thanks!
[06:02] <clintsnet> is smoking, trying to calm down.. ya know..
[06:02] <clintsnet> ;)
[06:03] <frantic> smoking what?
[06:03] <variant> frantic: a haddock
[06:03] <variant> frantic: kipper*#
[06:03] <frantic> !
[06:03] <whyso> although i cant use live CD, (doesnt work (cause of raid?)) so tryign to resize before i install
[06:03] <variant> whyso: ok
[06:03] <clintsnet> anyone know how I can get some software, gui, etc.. whatever, to access files in NTFS< partitions, and drives, having problems on debian testing.. >_<
[06:03] <krazykit> rex: ok, i got it.  paste this into your terminal:  xmodmap -e "keycode 33= p"
[06:03] <Keyseir> You leave, Krazykit?
[06:04] <Keyseir> speaka da devil
[06:04] <variant> whyso: resize with partiton magic or whatever but leave creation of the ubuntu parition to the ubuntu installer
[06:04] <krazykit> Keyseir: nope.  um, i dunno then.
[06:04] <rex> ppppppp!
[06:04] <rex> pppppppppp!
[06:04] <variant> clintsnet: so ask in #debian, this is #ubuntu
[06:04] <clintsnet> yeah i know :D
[06:04] <rex> Praise God!
[06:04] <clintsnet> I'm coming back :-)
[06:04] <rex> weird
[06:04] <rex> thanks, krazykit
[06:04] <clintsnet> getting ready to see how vmware does on, beta, :-)
[06:04] <krazykit> rex: dunno.  something nuked that keysym for some reason.  remember tha command and xev, and you can remap anything
[06:05] <rex> koo
[06:05] <clintsnet> I'm coming back variant, just waiting on this download, 81%
[06:05] <clintsnet> :-)
[06:06] <clintsnet> hey variant
[06:06] <Keyseir> Don't suppose anyone has a clean windows 2000 or XP vmdk sitting around?
[06:06] <Lurch21> Zenit: did you get my request
[06:07] <varsendaggr> hey what plays ram?
[06:07] <varsendaggr> .ram
[06:07] <clintsnet> real media ?
[06:07] <clintsnet> real player
[06:07] <varsendaggr> clintsnet, yes
[06:07] <clintsnet> real player
[06:07] <varsendaggr> where do i get it?
[06:07] <clintsnet> want me take this, Mandriva, from 2007 PowerPack I was testing with hee.. and take it from Mandriva :P
[06:08] <Keyseir> Does anyone have a clean windows 2000/xp vmware installation?
[06:08] <clintsnet> I will convert it to deb binary, then I will compile for ubuntu package :)
[06:08] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference between xen and vmware??
[06:08] <clintsnet> it also had that, LinDVD on there hee :p
[06:08] <SuperMiguel> key go to the web page
[06:09] <clintsnet> Super. way diff :)
[06:09] <SuperMiguel> clintsnet: like?
[06:09] <variant> SuperMiguel: you keep asking that
[06:09] <clintsnet> well, I use vmware to run my Windows XP Pro VLK inside
[06:09] <SuperMiguel> vlk?
[06:09] <clintsnet> Volume LIcense Key
[06:09] <clintsnet> its my IT edition
[06:10] <SuperMiguel> what else?
[06:10] <clintsnet> I dont' have to every worry about registering with Microsoft.. or doing major changes to hardware, and then Microsoft Asking me to register, etc
[06:10] <SuperMiguel> how did you get that?
[06:11] <ice_cream> i ran into an interesting problem today... couldnt install ieee80211
[06:11] <cniowenm> sameone cant help me, i don't know how to instal usb drive
[06:12] <ice_cream> i needed to install it in such a way as to be able to compile ipw2200 driver...
[06:12] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference between xen and vmware??
[06:12] <mikm[laptop] > Different ways of emulation
[06:12] <mikm[laptop] > Well, I'm using the term "emulate" loosely
[06:12] <SuperMiguel> which one is better?
[06:12] <mikm[laptop] > Depends on the task
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > xen requires an OS that is compatable
[06:13] <SuperMiguel> what can you do on vmware server
[06:13] <SuperMiguel> that you cant on zex
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > Not sure.
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > Vmware lets you emulate any OS
[06:13] <clintsnet> dang I having alot of fun :P
[06:13] <clintsnet> cniowenm?
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > Although it's slower for that reason
[06:13] <mikm[laptop] > Well, not *any*
[06:13] <clintsnet> thats right :-)
[06:13] <Mad3Max3> asymmetry, ok.. burned the new ISO, and the same problem.. I/O error hdc.. ect.. still wont boot.
[06:13] <clintsnet> alot though :-)
[06:13] <Ninja562> What app should I use to edit the sources.list file?
[06:13] <cniowenm> i need help sameome can't help me
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > Architecture, etc.
[06:14] <SuperMiguel> it is slow?
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > Ninja562 Whatever is your favorite editor
[06:14] <clintsnet> vmware workstation 5.5 , runs great on linux
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > SuperMiguel It's usable
[06:14] <clintsnet> I don't like it on windows, vmware :P
[06:14] <SuperMiguel> xen is faster?
[06:14] <naut> Any fluxbox users here?
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > Ninja562 I prefer vim, but gedit works well
[06:14] <clintsnet> I don't use Xen
[06:14] <frantic> \M/ VIM \M/
[06:14] <SuperMiguel> which do you use
[06:14] <mikm[laptop] > vim
[06:14] <clintsnet> vmware workstation 5.5 for linux
[06:15] <SuperMiguel> what is the good thing about vmware server?
[06:15] <mikm[laptop] > Not sure what the difference of server vs. regular is
[06:15] <krazykit> SuperMiguel: easy to make new VMs
[06:15] <variant> clintsnet: thats free right? would you mind dcc'ing it to me?
[06:15] <JNeverMind> make: not found
[06:15] <JNeverMind> heh
[06:15] <blerk_> can anyone tell me howto get the "system tools" meny to appear in my applications menu.. when i edit the menu its there and some apps are enabled, ther're just no system tools menu :(
[06:15] <q_a_z_steve> hey, I'm trying to set up a script to run dcfldd 15 times doing different things, /dev/zero, random and urandom. First I can use each of these ?
[06:15] <clintsnet> well, depends on what you consider free, me sending it, or vmware insiders
[06:15] <clintsnet> :-)
[06:16] <variant> clintsnet: im not that botherd tbh :)
[06:16] <clintsnet> let me install this, ubuntu beta
[06:16] <clintsnet> okay np :-)
[06:16] <clintsnet> Super, I"ll show ya how to set it up, :-)
[06:16] <krazykit> JNeverMind: apt-get install build-essential
[06:16] <Mad3Max3> anyone know why Ubunti livecd wont boot on my new computer. stops att booting kernel.. and get's errors.. hdc error ect
[06:16] <SuperMiguel> i know how :P
[06:16] <clintsnet> or I tell ya what, let me just make a pre virtual machine, and you guys can run vmware player, with custom virtual machine :-)
[06:17] <clintsnet> snapshot ;)
[06:17] <variant> clintsnet: would you send me the workstation please?
[06:17] <JNeverMind> does anyone find themselves using TABkey for completing sentences in here ? lol
[06:17] <clintsnet> yep
[06:17] <clintsnet> ;)
[06:17] <variant> JNeverMind: all the time, its very annoying
[06:17] <ice_cream> always
[06:17] <fowlduck> no :/
[06:17] <frantic> i ran vista in vmware for about 3 minutes
[06:17] <clintsnet> $189
[06:17] <clintsnet> :-)
[06:17] <variant> frantic: poor you
[06:17] <frantic> Then I was like, Why?
[06:18] <frantic> Then I considered burning a DVD so I could do a proper install on another HD
[06:18] <JNeverMind> im really liking the switch to ubuntu but this one thing is giving me grief
[06:18] <SuperMiguel> i just got a server computer
[06:18] <frantic> And... Why?
[06:18] <SuperMiguel> it is really goof idea to install vmware server?
[06:18] <variant> JNeverMind: the tab key?
[06:18] <cniowenm> i need help  to install my usb drive sameon can help me?
[06:18] <clintsnet> going to burn this cd, ubuntu beta, talk soon
[06:18] <JNeverMind> no im using ubuntu server right now but there is a glitch with teamspeak server software
[06:18] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm what do you mean?
[06:18] <krazykit> JNeverMind: no, i don't.  but i LOVE tab completion.  zsh has much better tab completion than bash ;-)
[06:19] <clintsnet> talk soon ;)
[06:19] <variant> cniowenm: what do you mean install it? put it in the usb socket and its installed
[06:19] <frantic> PROVE IT
[06:19] <JNeverMind> it kicks everyone off a few times a day, except for me, connecting from inside the lan
[06:19] <blerk> nobody knows howto enable the system tools menu to appear on the application menu?
[06:19] <cniowenm> my drive usb i need the comand to instal
[06:19] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm: to install what
[06:19] <JNeverMind> thats what  i mean i find myself using TAB to try to complete sentences and words in irc DOH
[06:19] <variant> cniowenm: its allready installed (if you mean the usb driver)
[06:19] <krazykit> cniowenm: plug it in.  it should just work.
[06:20] <cniowenm> usb command
[06:20] <krazykit> cniowenm: there is no usb command.  it'll just be /dev/sd?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> mount /media/usb
[06:20] <variant> cniowenm: what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> xD
[06:20] <JNeverMind> ive had teamspeak server running on win and slack for long periods with Never a kick
[06:20] <clintsnet> cniowenm:
[06:20] <JNeverMind> i cant figure it out
[06:20] <clintsnet> its not as bad as.. configuring debian :-)
[06:20] <JNeverMind> im going to recompile the kernel myself and see if the prob persists
[06:20] <krazykit> JNeverMind: maybe there are hints in the logs?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> JNeverMind: i know whats wrong
[06:20] <JNeverMind> SuperMig what is it ?
[06:21] <variant> JNeverMind: you on dapper?
[06:21] <SuperMiguel> JNeverMind: you are using windows xD
[06:21] <JNeverMind> yes dapper server
[06:21] <JNeverMind> dapper drake is right beside me
[06:21] <variant> JNeverMind: i had a network timeout issue with edgy but that was fixed in latest version
[06:21] <JNeverMind> ive tried 2 different pcs and 4 diff nics
[06:21] <JNeverMind> exact same prob on default install dapper server
[06:21] <variant> god damn making a 5gb tar file takes too long
[06:22] <frantic> heh
[06:22] <JNeverMind> im new to ubuntu but cant get past this
[06:22] <cniowenm> i'll try krazykit. thanks very much
[06:22] <JNeverMind> SuperMig what was your idea for me?
[06:22] <frantic> at work, i back up like 20G of data to 7zip files every night
[06:22] <SuperMiguel> any good server to put on a server machine beside http, ssh and ftp
[06:22] <frantic> it takes over 8 hours
[06:23] <krazykit> SuperMiguel: cups?
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> cups?
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> what is that
[06:23] <variant> SuperMiguel: et
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> et?
[06:23] <krazykit> SuperMiguel: Common Unix Print System
[06:23] <Mad3Max3> seems like Konppix works better than ubuntu
[06:23] <wastrel> print server
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> ohh
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> and et?
[06:23] <Mad3Max3> knoppix*
[06:23] <JNeverMind> i like the way ubuntu is heading and i thought id really try to use it
[06:23] <JNeverMind> but i cant get past this one thing with ts
[06:24] <JNeverMind> ive tried searching the logs for anything at the same time as the ts server is kicking those connected from outside lan
[06:24] <frantic> god why won't this cd burn
[06:24] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: knoppix is good, but you are on a #ubuntu chat why would you say that in here
[06:24] <variant> JNeverMind: ask on some teamspeak forum as it odesn tseem to be a ubuntu issue from what you say
[06:24] <SuperMiguel> variant: what iset
[06:24] <SuperMiguel> is et*
[06:24] <JNeverMind> ive got  a thread going at ts forums my username is VascoMan
[06:24] <mailinh> hi all
[06:25] <JNeverMind> never had this prob with win or slack
[06:25] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel - cause ubuntu wont boot on my machine when knoppix does..
[06:25] <JNeverMind> i know im not giving much info
[06:25] <mailinh> i want to modify the installation process of Ubuntu ???
[06:25] <frantic> Anyone ever have this problem with Serpentine?
[06:25] <variant> SuperMiguel: game server
[06:25] <frantic> It "prepares the media files"
[06:25] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: what is says ?
[06:25] <mailinh> give me guide's linke, plz
[06:25] <JNeverMind> any troubleshooting ideas for me ppl?
[06:25] <frantic> then it fails when that's done
[06:25] <SuperMiguel> variant: what kind of game
[06:25] <variant> SuperMiguel: fps
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> fps? like?
[06:26] <frantic> Converting files failed
[06:26] <Ninja562> I am having no luck at all editing the sources.list, do I need to modify the file permissions or something?
[06:26] <variant> SuperMiguel: first person shooter
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: what is the error
[06:26] <variant> Ninja562: you have to do it as root
[06:26] <krazykit> Ninja562: run it as sudo/gksudo
[06:26] <variant> Ninja562: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> like counter strike?
[06:26] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, well.. it stalls right in the begining! ..
[06:26] <variant> SuperMiguel: yes
[06:26] <Ninja562> Ahhh! what is the command for root?
[06:26] <variant> Ninja562: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <krazykit> Ninja562: sudo
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: do you have an compaq or hp machine?
[06:27] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, A selfbuilt machine
[06:27] <SuperMiguel> ok
[06:27] <JNeverMind> ls
[06:27] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, AMD64 with SATA drive
[06:27] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: when you just start the cd its says boot and install ubuntu, blah blach, boot from the hard drive
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: choosethe first option and without hiting enter press f6
[06:28] <Mad3Max3> ye
[06:28] <Mad3Max3> yes
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: and type acpi=off
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> and hit enter
[06:28] <variant> Mad3Max3: try in safe graphics mode
[06:28] <Lurch21> Does anyone know how to install the drivers for an intel base wirless device. I downloaded the ipw2200 firmware.
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> what it does just reboot the computer automatically?
[06:28] <cniowenm_> i can't find usb in my computer i need help
[06:28] <q_a_z_steve> SuperMiguel: Can you help me?
[06:29] <SuperMiguel> q_a_z_steve: ill try
[06:29] <q_a_z_steve> hey, thanks. I wasn't sure if anyone could see my messages.
[06:29] <q_a_z_steve> hey, I'm trying to set up a script to run dcfldd 15 times doing different things, /dev/zero, random and urandom. First I can use each of these ?
[06:29] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, I will try that.. with F6.... the error I get is something like this! "190.241885 : Hdc, Ide_Intr : huh? expected null handler on exit"
[06:30] <SuperMiguel> :)
[06:30] <q_a_z_steve> Second, I have the commands figured out, but I need help with the script...
[06:30] <SuperMiguel> try another cd
[06:30] <Lurch21> can anyone help me.
[06:30] <SuperMiguel> q_a_z_steve: to make them?
[06:30] <cniowenm_> help me to instal usb i my computer
[06:30] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, this is the second CD im trying.. :(
[06:31] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: download kubuntu and try
[06:31] <SuperMiguel> wait are you downloading edgy?
[06:31] <SuperMiguel> or 6.06?
[06:31] <Mad3Max3> Dapper.. I like gnome
[06:31] <Mad3Max3> 6.06.1
[06:31] <SuperMiguel> try kubuntu, then install ubuntu-desktop and unistall kubuntu-desktop
[06:32] <SuperMiguel> ill be back
[06:32] <Mad3Max3> why Kubuntu.. whats the diff?
[06:32] <q_a_z_steve> linux syntax...
[06:32] <q_a_z_steve> I want to run
[06:32] <q_a_z_steve> for ((a=1; a <= 5 ; a++)) {
[06:32] <q_a_z_steve> for ((b=1; b <= 3 ; b++))
[06:33] <clearzen> I've set up a server in my house for the first time but I am having a few problems with it and wanted to get  some advice. My download/upload speeds are not what they should be. Also, the server caches all of the ram and does not release the cached memory for use. How can I stop this?
[06:33] <q_a_z_steve> and for each b... b==1, run zero b==2 run random b==3 run urandom
[06:33] <cniowenm_> help to find usb driv i my computer
[06:34] <q_a_z_steve> I don't know how to make the if statement work...
[06:34] <cniowenm_> i need sameon to help me i can't find usb drive in my computer
[06:34] <variant> cool, ext4 on the way
[06:35] <clearzen> cniowenm_: try /dev/sda1
[06:36] <JNeverMind> is there a quickway to get the kernel source off the server cd? like apt-get ?
[06:36] <clearzen> cniowenm_: that should be your usb device and you can mount it using something like mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk -v if that is what you mean
[06:37] <Ninja562> in the sources.list, do I want to uncomment the two lines to add software from the universe?
[06:37] <JNeverMind> kernel-package ?
[06:37] <clearzen> cniowenm_: what kind of device is it?
[06:37] <variant> Ninja562: not if you dont need it
[06:38] <q_a_z_steve> kernel.org
[06:38] <Ninja562> OK, I will hold off on that, no search and replace, so I am doing it manually
[06:40] <variant> cniowenm_: im impressed that you found how to get on irc.. can you find your butt?
[06:40] <n4p> help i need help my usb drived away
[06:40] <variant> Lol
[06:40] <Lam_> is there a cli command to log out of a session?
[06:40] <variant> Lam_: killall <yoursessionmanager>
[06:40] <Lam_> variant: thanks
[06:40] <Lurch21> Can explain how to copy ipw2200 firmware file into /lib/firmware Please.
[06:40] <youser> anyone here know much about backends and xsane or scanners?
[06:41] <Mad3Max3> damn error.. im starting to get irritated - [190.241885]  hdc : ide_intr: huh? expected null handler on exit
[06:41] <variant> Lam_: with the cp command
[06:41] <variant> Lam_: type "man cp"
[06:41] <variant> Lurch21: type "man cp"
[06:41] <youser> my scanner will not work with xsane... yet
[06:41] <Epidemik> hey
[06:42] <Epidemik> tommarows my birthday
[06:42] <n4p> yay
[06:42] <youser> happy bday dude
[06:42] <n4p> too bad you didnt learn how to spell yet
[06:42] <youser> its like almost 1am here
[06:42] <variant> its 05:42 here
[06:43] <youser> east siiiide white trash wit tat2s
[06:43] <variant> ololol
[06:43] <n4p> nyc reppin this chan or what
[06:43] <n4p> damn
[06:43] <youser> my scanner is reppin not working
[06:43] <n4p> lols
[06:43] <cniowenm_> clearzen i try but the command is not find
[06:43] <Jbirk> Ah, my first shower in about 2 days
[06:43] <Jbirk> I am so glad the contractors finished the bathroom
[06:44] <variant> cniowenm_: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && ls /mnt
[06:44] <Lurch21> Variant: I have a ipw2200 firmware file in my tmp folder how do i copy it in the /lib/firmware file
[06:44] <n4p> :x
[06:44] <variant> Lurch21: cp /tmp/filename /lib/firmware/
[06:44] <n4p> didnt you learn basic copying cmds
[06:44] <Ninja562> how do I log in as root for permissions to upgrade  and update
[06:44] <Ninja562> ?
[06:44] <variant> Ninja562: sudo su
[06:45] <JNeverMind> i want to recompile my kernel is there a way to get the /usr/scr with apt-get ?
[06:45] <Ninja562> OK, thanks
[06:45] <variant> Ninja562: or just run the commands with sudo infront (advised)
[06:45] <variant> JNeverMind: apt-get install kernel-source
[06:45] <AsheD> so, I have been told that my Ubuntu box has a virus or something [because our router hates us, and if everybody is online, speed goes to shit] , any way I can check?
[06:45] <variant> JNeverMind: then untar it and symlink it
[06:45] <variant> AsheD: apt-get install clamav
[06:45] <JNeverMind> im using server ubuntu
[06:45] <Ninja562> I tried the command with sudo in front and got a permission denied
[06:45] <n4p> lol vari
[06:46] <JNeverMind> says cant find that package
[06:46] <variant> JNeverMind: sorry, that should be apt-get install linux-source
[06:46] <SuperMiguel> JNeverMind: are you using any gui?\
[06:46] <variant> Ninja562: type sudo su -
[06:47] <Lurch21> varian: I got this responce "cp: cannot create regular file `/lib/firmware/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz': Permission denied
[06:47] <JNeverMind> no im console mode, default install ubuntu 6.0.6 server
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> lurch use sudo su
[06:47] <youser> wtf <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:47] <variant> Lurch21: you need root permissions to write to that folder
[06:47] <youser> something is telnetting my comp
[06:47] <JNeverMind> the cd is in the drive
[06:47] <youser> ona ridiculous port
[06:47] <n4p> kill it
[06:47] <variant> Lurch21: and you probably want to untar the archive before you copy it
[06:47] <youser> how?
[06:47] <Healot> rm -rf ubuntu :)
[06:47] <l3tuc3> I should get a pcmcia wireless card for my old lappie :)
[06:48] <youser> i can only see it on my firestarter
[06:48] <SuperMiguel> em -rf ubuntu?? what is that
[06:48] <JNeverMind> cant find linux-source either
[06:48] <l3tuc3> its actually working better then when I had windows 2k on it
[06:48] <John2583> does anyone know how to disable the hardware abstraction layer from starting at boot besides using bum?
[06:48] <Lurch21> Variant: how do i untar?
[06:48] <variant> JNeverMind: linux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches
[06:49] <variant> Lurch21: tar -xvcf filename.tgz
[06:49] <SuperMiguel> JNeverMind: what are you going to do which that server
[06:49] <youser> how do i close a connection i might find in firestarter?
[06:50] <variant> youser: create a policy in the policy tabs explicitly blocking connections from that ip/host
[06:50] <JNeverMind> for one thing its going to run teamspeak
[06:50] <youser> its <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:50] <variant> youser: lol, thats your computer
[06:50] <youser> but nothing is running and it is notmy modem
[06:50] <SuperMiguel> youser: thats your ip
[06:50] <Ninja562> Still getting that unable to lock administrative directory error
[06:50] <Mad3Max3> SuperMiguel, does it matter that the DVD is master.. ? I maybe shall put it as slave or something
[06:50] <youser> but its not the same port as my modem
[06:50] <variant> youser: what sort of connection is it? (what service?)
[06:50] <youser> unknown
[06:50] <JNeverMind> apt-get build-essentials went fine
[06:50] <variant> youser: ignore it
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> youser <IP_ADDRESS> thats your computer default ip
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: try
[06:51] <youser> so why is my computer contacting itself
[06:51] <Lurch21> variant: This happened "tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option
[06:51] <Lurch21> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> youser: is not contacting your self is using that port
[06:51] <variant> Lurch21: tar xvzf sorry not xvcf
[06:51] <youser> using it for what?
[06:52] <youser> it oesnt need to use that port
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> youser: whats is the anme of the process
[06:52] <avagant> !tar
[06:52] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:52] <youser> name of what process?
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> youser: it just says that <IP_ADDRESS> is using which process
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> or chich port
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> which*
[06:52] <Lurch21> variant: This happened "tar: ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:52] <Lurch21> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:52] <Lurch21> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:52] <Lurch21> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:53] <youser> my firestarter says source <IP_ADDRESS> is reaching destination <IP_ADDRESS> on port ****
[06:53] <variant> Lurch21: you need to specify the path
[06:53] <variant> Lurch21: tar -xvzf /path/to/file.tgz
[06:53] <cniowenm_> sameon speek french
[06:53] <variant> Lurch21: or be in the same directory
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> youser: lol, how do you think that firestarter work?
[06:53] <variant> cniowenm_: non
[06:53] <Ninja562> OK. I think I got it.
[06:54] <variant> cniowenm_: try ubuntu.fr
[06:54] <youser> but thats not its normal port
[06:54] <variant> cniowenm_: try #ubuntu.fr
[06:54] <SuperMiguel> it have tos end signals back or forth to know all the incoming and outcoming connection
[06:54] <youser> btw whatis python
[06:54] <cniowenm_> i can't explem i english
[06:54] <variant> youser: a programming language
[06:54] <youser> i see
[06:54] <cniowenm_> i need help fo my computer
[06:54] <variant> youser: or a snake, depending on field of expertise
[06:54] <youser> cuzi keep getting a connection from python popping up and then going away
[06:54] <youser> and im not doing anything
[06:54] <variant> youser: or somthing else if your in the porno industry
[06:55] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm_: necesitas algo
[06:55] <cniowenm_> i don't see ubs command in my computer
[06:55] <Lurch21> I have been un able to get the file in my directory it keeps telling me file not found but i can see it under my tmp file
[06:56] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm_: what command do you need
[06:56] <variant> Lurch21: tar -xvzf /tmp/FILENAME.tgz
[06:56] <cniowenm_> i see i the roots but cant see i my computer
[06:56] <youser> either wayi give a fuck about my ports and shit
[06:56] <youser> i wanna get my scanner working
[06:56] <cniowenm_> how to make it appear in my computer
[06:57] <variant> im off, gl all
[06:57] <SuperMiguel> cniwenm it wonr be on your computer
[06:57] <SuperMiguel> it have to be on /media
[06:57] <Lurch21> variant: This happend "LICENSE
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-boot.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-bss.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-bss_ucode.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-ibss.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-ibss_ucode.fw
[06:57] <youser> dont forget mkdir
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-sniffer.fw
[06:57] <Lurch21> ipw-2.3-sniffer_ucode.fw
[06:58] <SuperMiguel> ipw? whats that for
[06:58] <variant> Lurch21: yeah, you untarred it
[06:58] <variant> Lurch21: now copy it
[06:58] <variant> im off though so good luck Lurch21
[06:58] <SuperMiguel> variant what is that for?
[06:58] <Lurch21> how did that look agian
[06:58] <variant> Lurch21: cp /path/to/filename /location/you/want/to/put/it
[06:59] <variant> SuperMiguel: what?
[06:59] <cniowenm_> in my computer i see: files system ,cd_room 1, disquet1 but not usb driv
[06:59] <SuperMiguel> ipw
[06:59] <Lurch21> Variant: Thanks for all the help
[06:59] <variant> Lurch21: np, if i wasnt so tired i would try harder to help you :)
[06:59] <variant> later
[06:59] <Lurch21> Variant : Have a good one.
[07:00] <SuperMiguel> lurch what are you tring to instal
[07:00] <SuperMiguel> trying
[07:01] <SuperMiguel> cniowenm_: try to take the usb out and put it back
[07:01] <MrPockets> why does, in windows onmy 19" LCD at 1280X1024, everything seems smaller and farther away, but in Ubuntu at the same settings everythings still very large
[07:01] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: did you install the drivers on ubuntu
[07:01] <JNeverMind> why doesnt TAB key work with ftp
[07:01] <MrPockets> for the GFX card?
[07:02] <SuperMiguel> yep
[07:02] <cniowenm_> nothing append
[07:02] <MrPockets> i did not
[07:02] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: The goal is my wirless driver, but I'm having problems just at the begininng trying to install the firmware.
[07:02] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: tu tu ru
[07:02] <MrPockets> that makes sence
[07:02] <SuperMiguel> Lurch21: what kind is it?
[07:02] <MrPockets> but how do i find linux drivers for a geforce card?
[07:02] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: nvidia?
[07:03] <MrPockets> yes
[07:03] <MrPockets> 5200
[07:03] <mikm[laptop] > !nvidia
[07:03] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: do you ahve automatix?
[07:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:03] <mikm[laptop] > MrPockets /\
[07:03] <MrPockets> which is?
[07:03] <Madpilot> SuperMiguel, please don't recommend Automatix here. It's too good at breaking people's Ubuntu installations.
[07:03] <MrPockets> ah
[07:03] <SuperMiguel> Madpilot: it make live easier
[07:04] <mikm[laptop] > Until it screws up.  Then it makes life much harder.
[07:04] <Madpilot> SuperMiguel, it makes breaking Ubuntu easier, sure
[07:04] <silly_girl22> help!!!!!!!!1
[07:04] <SuperMiguel> could you please tell me why?
[07:05] <MrPockets> i should be able to do hat
[07:05] <MrPockets> thanks
[07:05] <MrPockets> im in Winblows now, however
[07:05] <MrPockets> so it will have to wait
[07:05] <mikm[laptop] > silly_girl22 ?
[07:05] <SuperMiguel> MrPockets: install vmware on windows and you can run ubuntu xD
[07:05] <SuperMiguel> actually better you can install it :)
[07:05] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: i will put on my official hat and strongly encourage you not to use Automatix, EasyUbuntu, or any other such automated means of using apt.
[07:06] <SuperMiguel> mnepton: why is that
[07:06] <SuperMiguel> a mean
[07:06] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: because they make assumptions about architecture, repos, versions, etc.
[07:06] <SuperMiguel> what does automatix does, just type on the terminal what you should on the manual mode?
[07:07] <hoelk> hmm automatix is a good way for installing more fonts
[07:07] <hoelk> ;)
[07:07] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: I am trying to cp the file ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz in to /lib/firmware. How do i do this
[07:07] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: the "what you should" is the sticky point
[07:07] <SuperMiguel> how does automatix install frostwire?
[07:07] <SuperMiguel> apt-get install frostwire
[07:07] <SuperMiguel> how do you do it on the manual mode ?
[07:07] <SuperMiguel> Lurch21: you what to copy the tgz file or the one extracted?
[07:08] <hoelk> cool people use "aptitude install frostwire", aptitude remembers dependencies
[07:08] <hoelk> for uninstall
[07:08] <SuperMiguel> hoelk: so why automatix is bad?
[07:09] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: I just extracted the file using tar -xvzf /tmp/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz
[07:09] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: to get Frostwire to work you need Sun's Java (which means agreeing to the Sun license), you need your default Java changed to Sun's JRE, and you need Frostwire downloaded and installed. a script can seriously, seriously mess this up and leave a user with *no* functional JVM.
[07:09] <lwarimav> hi all
[07:09] <SuperMiguel> mnepton: you got your point :)
[07:10] <JNeverMind> "apt-get install build-essentials, idl the latest kernel from kernel.org and i am getting errors, make menuconfig is not working
[07:10] <AWOSDev> I need help with the sequencer, it seems fairly dead.
[07:10] <SuperMiguel> Lurch21: so somewhere should be a file name ipw2200-fw...
[07:10] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: i'll even go so far as to say "just do as i say" on this issue. and that's something i really, *really* don't like doing. at all.
[07:10] <Lurch21> The file was downloaded into my tmp
[07:10] <Ninja562> that upgrade +Update takes a bit, must be a slow connection
[07:10] <SuperMiguel> mnepton: are you mad?
[07:11] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: not at all. should i be?
[07:11] <SuperMiguel> mnepton: i dont mind xD
[07:11] <SuperMiguel> im jst wanted to know
[07:11] <SuperMiguel> just*
[07:12] <SuperMiguel> mnepron can i ask you something?
[07:12] <gnychis> how can i get an application to run on bootup? like synergy?
[07:12] <AWOSDev> What other information may you need to render this problem fixed?
[07:12] <mikm[laptop] > gnychis Running gnome?
[07:12] <lwarimav> I have a problem with my usb drive. When i put in my usd flash, and click on my computer, it can be read. When i try lsusb, it listed me my usb drives... So what should i do?
[07:12] <gnychis> mikm[laptop] : yes
[07:12] <mikm[laptop] > gnychis System -> Preferences -> Session Manager
[07:12] <mikm[laptop] > Err Sessions
[07:13] <mikm[laptop] > Go to the startup programs tab
[07:13] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: i think you just did. :)
[07:13] <SuperMiguel> besides http, ftp, ssh server which is a good server for a server computer?
[07:13] <SuperMiguel> or a really useful server
[07:13] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: if you mean "can i ask you something else besides 'can i ask you something'?" then the answer is "yes" ;)
[07:13] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: what code should i use to cp ipw2200 from my tmp to /lib/firmware
[07:14] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel, that's easier, POP/SMTP.
[07:14] <Hmmmm> hi guys, my terminal has some weird setting for keyboard. any idea how i can run the setup the keyboard layout for the CLI again?
[07:14] <SuperMiguel> sudo cp -a ipw2200 /lib/firmware
[07:14] <AWOSDev> lwarimav, hopefully you typed your question wrong -- is there really a problem with it reading it?
[07:14] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: i don't use FTP. but ssh, an httpd, mysql, and php/python/ruby are de rigeur for me
[07:14] <OmniD> Hey guys how would I bridge a wifi connection?
[07:14] <SuperMiguel> ryby?
[07:14] <snoops> SuperMiguel, samba, nfs
[07:15] <SuperMiguel> ruby?
[07:15] <mnepton> SuperMiguel: http://ruby-lang.org
[07:15] <SuperMiguel> !ruby
[07:15] <snoops> ruby is a language, not a protocol
[07:15] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[07:15] <AWOSDev> I still say POP/SMTP is useful
[07:15] <gnychis> mikm[laptop] :  actually, how do i get it at boot time, not on login?
[07:15] <SuperMiguel> AWOSDev: mail server?
[07:15] <Hmmmm> guys, my terminal has some weird setting for keyboard. any idea how i can run the setup the keyboard layout for the CLI again?
[07:16] <lwarimav> AWOSDev, yes there is a problem reading it. now I know that there is a command that will open it. But i do not know which is it...
[07:16] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel, exactly!  :)
[07:16] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: This happend sudo cp -a ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/lib/firmware
[07:16] <Lurch21> cp: missing destination file operand after `ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/lib/firmware'
[07:16] <Lurch21> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[07:16] <snoops> no point putting stuff on a server if it's not going to be used..the whole point of a server is to do the job it's meant for, as fast as possible..there's a reason the ubuntu one doesn't come with a gui
[07:16] <AWOSDev> lwarimav, mount maybe?
[07:16] <mikm[laptop] > gnychis Not sure.  Better ask somebody smarter/more experienced.
[07:16] <AWOSDev> Lurch21, try "sudo cp -a ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz /lib/firmware"
[07:17] <AWOSDev> with a space between "tgz" and "/lib/firmware" :)
[07:17] <Lam_> anyone here ever got knetworkmanager and ndiswrapper working correctly together?  mine stalls at 28%
[07:18] <silly_girl21> i have a vagina
[07:18] <AWOSDev> Please, does anybody know how to fix a MIDI problem?  Depending on which application I run I get different errors.  KMid gives "another application may be using it" and rosegarden gives "open /dev/snd/seq failed: Permission denied" followed by "waiting for Sequencer to come up" endless times
[07:18] <lwarimav> AWOSDev, I not a pro of linux so i do not know mush about the command. but if you do, can you tell how???
[07:18] <darnell_> classy
[07:18] <AWOSDev> !ops
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[07:19] <AWOSDev> Ops, I believe a ban for silly_girl is in order.
[07:19] <Hmmmm> !kezboard
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[07:19] <Hmmmm> !kezboard
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[07:19] <AWOSDev> lwarimav -- I'm not sure what /dev/ file your USB is using.
[07:19] <AWOSDev> !keyboard
[07:19] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[07:19] <SuperMiguel> !keyboard
[07:19] <AWOSDev> :)
[07:20] <SuperMiguel> any one use vmware server?
[07:20] <AWOSDev> lwarimav -- I need to know what /dev/ file it is using, and what File System (e.g. FAT?  ext3?) it is using before I can give you the command.
[07:20] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel -- Yuck!
[07:20] <SuperMiguel> what is qemu?
[07:20] <AWOSDev> !info qemu
[07:20] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[07:20] <AWOSDev> !qemu
[07:20] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:21] <SuperMiguel> what is the difference?
[07:21] <BHSPitLappy> SuperMiguel, I've used vmware player, (free)
[07:21] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel, Qemu is free as in freedom.
[07:21] <SuperMiguel> what is the good thing about vmware server?
[07:22] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel, uh, it costs $$$$ and makes an IT budget look good?
[07:22] <BHSPitLappy> qemu seems more functional
[07:22] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: I used this sudo su cp/path/to/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/tmp/firmware
[07:22] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, moneywise, they're both free,
[07:22] <dEmoNio> hi i was wanting to know if there was anyway to launch a dir to Nautilus via terminal ??
[07:22] <SuperMiguel> sudo su cp/path/to/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz /tmp/firmware
[07:22] <SuperMiguel> dEmoNio: ls
[07:23] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: and got this Unknown id: cp/path/to/ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz/tmp/firmware
[07:23] <Dr_willis> mnepton,  that thing still exists? gesh
[07:23] <mnepton> Dr_willis: probably a better upgrade path for VB6 users than is VB.NET
[07:24] <mnepton> Dr_willis: and as such, i expect we'll get at least a couple customers using it. while not supported, i'd still like to know about it.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> mnepton,  heh - whatebver happened to that Kylix. :)
[07:24] <Lurch21> SuperMiguel: How do i know the file has been cp
[07:24] <dEmoNio> SuperMiguel i want to open a folder like /home/user/downloads through the terminal
[07:25] <snoops> kylix, same as delphi..same as borland have basically dropped off the planet
[07:25] <AWOSDev> Lurch21, no errors = it's been cp'ed :)
[07:25] <SuperMiguel> cd /home/user/downloadd
[07:25] <dEmoNio> yes but i want it to open in Nautilus
[07:25] <mnepton> Dr_willis: anything Borland makes me vomit into my mouth a little
[07:25] <Dr_willis> borland - theres a company that managed to hang on and still never get a clue. :)
[07:26] <mnepton> Dr_willis: their corporate immune system kills "clues" and "good ideas" and "customer value" on contact
[07:26] <mikedamann> hello
[07:27] <dEmoNio> SuperMiguel exactly like you said but i want it opening up with the defualt file browser
[07:28] <BHSPitLappy> how does one change the default music player/
[07:29] <SuperMiguel> gksudo nautilus
[07:29] <dEmoNio> BHSPitLappy i think you can right click > properties > open with
[07:30] <BHSPitLappy> dementt, right, but that's for individual file types
[07:30] <BHSPitLappy> there's one for gnome in general
[07:30] <BHSPitLappy> and I haven't a clue how to change it
[07:31] <julian> wat file system you ppl using
[07:31] <AWOSDev> Ext3
[07:31] <AWOSDev> ReiserFS on my other Linux (SuSE)
[07:31] <virtual-stargaze> julian: ext3, swap (duh), and ntfs
[07:31] <BHSPitLappy> reiserfs
[07:31] <AWOSDev> But for mission critical data I use ext3
[07:32] <BHSPitLappy> ext3 FTL
[07:32] <julian> ever try xfs
[07:32] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, what's wrong with ext3?
[07:32] <julian> its slow
[07:32] <BHSPitLappy> I think there's more of a windows accessibility for reiserfs than there is for ext3
[07:32] <AWOSDev> I tried to access my ReiserFS once from Windows
[07:33] <AWOSDev> IRQL_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL
[07:33] <AWOSDev> or maybe it was KERNEL_PAGE_FAULT
[07:33] <julian> blue screen?
[07:33] <AWOSDev> STOP error
[07:33] <AWOSDev> yes
[07:33] <julian> ugh i hate that
[07:33] <AWOSDev> But ext3 came up straight away
[07:33] <julian> reboot
[07:33] <AWOSDev> Tried three times
[07:33] <AWOSDev> still no dice :(
[07:34] <snoops> there's the ext2 driver for windows to read ext2 and ext3 partitions - full read/write support at fs-driver.org
[07:34] <snoops> not sure if it works in vista or not
[07:35] <AWOSDev> This is the one I tried: http://rfsd.sourceforge.net/
[07:35] <dEmoNio> SuperMiguel thanks i figured it out i can just do nautilus /home/blah and it will open there
[07:35] <AWOSDev> Vista?  heh you people...Vista doesn't even have a DDK out yet...
[07:35] <AWOSDev> it *couldn't* support Vista
[07:36] <julian> anyone use beep media player
[07:36] <AWOSDev> Nope, VLC + amaroK for me
[07:37] <snoops> ddk AWOSDev?
[07:37] <julian> hmmm trying to figure out how to dock it in panel
[07:37] <AWOSDev> snoops, Driver Development Kit
[07:37] <snoops> ah, right..
[07:38] <snoops> well, *most* things on xp will work on vista..hence my remark
[07:38] <t0mazrage> hi
[07:38] <AWOSDev> Hello t0mazrage.
[07:38] <mikedamann> is anyone familiar with aptana IDE installation on ubuntu?
[07:39] <AWOSDev> Um no, personally I use Kdevelop (which is in the repos)
[07:39] <t0mazrage> im looking for help, i want to install obuntu in my pc...but i have some questions...
[07:39] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, alright go ahead and ask.
[07:39] <julian> yes yes, windows sux
[07:39] <Jbirk> I just installed the adobe reader
[07:39] <Jbirk> I have a problem though
[07:40] <t0mazrage> can i install HP 1510 All in ONE?
[07:40] <Jbirk> How do I get it to work with firefox?
[07:40] <AWOSDev> Jbirk in what way?
[07:40] <AWOSDev> !printers
[07:40] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:40] <t0mazrage> my RADEON 9250 AGP card its compatible?
[07:40] <Jbirk> I want firefox to open PDF files from within firefox
[07:40] <Jbirk> via Acroread
[07:40] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage 99% of the RADEONs are
[07:40] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, yes. eeeeasily.
[07:40] <AWOSDev> Jbirk well, uh, no clue.
[07:41] <BHSPitLappy> the printer I mean
[07:41] <t0mazrage> ok
[07:41] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage the PSC 1510 is fully supported.
[07:41] <AWOSDev> as of Breezy even.
[07:41] <AWOSDev> (previous version)
[07:41] <t0mazrage> i try mandrake about 4 years ago, the 8 version... and its great(free) but, i had a lot of problems with the drivers...
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, believe me, this is much different.
[07:42] <AWOSDev> Yeah Linux 4 years ago didn't really support my computer either.
[07:42] <t0mazrage> so, i think ubuntu is a good option
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu is way better than mandriva even
[07:42] <Jbirk> Yes
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, I think it's the best option.
[07:42] <t0mazrage> im from mexico.. and nobody wants to try linux, just windows windows windows
[07:42] <Jbirk> question
[07:42] <AWOSDev> Yes very good for people new to Linux and "old hats" too.
[07:42] <Jbirk> Same in teh USA
[07:42] <Jbirk> NObody wants to try Linux
[07:42] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, good for you pioneering Mexican Linux :)
[07:43] <t0mazrage> jajaja
[07:43] <Jbirk> I still rely on windows
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> I have all my close friends willing to switch completely to ubuntu
[07:43] <AWOSDev> Jbirk, not really, I know lots of people here in the States that use Linux.
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> two of them, I have already done so with
[07:43] <t0mazrage> i know some ppl.. about 3 or 4 who hads ubuntus..
[07:43] <julian> ppl dont want to bother to learn something new
[07:43] <Jbirk> I can't get all the buttons working on my mouse
[07:43] <Jbirk> I serriously need hlep with that
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, that's surprising, though, given that... well, there are a lot of low-income areas.
[07:44] <AWOSDev> BHSPitLappy, yeah most everyone I know uses Linux, except one, and she's still using Windows 98.  Won't take 2000 or Linux, or anything.  stuck with 98...*sigh*
[07:44] <BHSPitLappy> well, it's not surprising. linux isn't really common knowledge.
[07:44] <BHSPitLappy> haha
[07:44] <t0mazrage> well, i'll try ubuntu, im downloading it rigth now...
[07:44] <BHSPitLappy> well, it's not a terrible choice within the windows world
[07:44] <AWOSDev> No, no 98 is alright, but still
[07:45] <BHSPitLappy> I'd personally take 2000 over 98
[07:45] <AWOSDev> oh heavens yes!
[07:45] <t0mazrage> another question, what about the network?... is easy?, i have a broadband router, 2 pcs, wireless.. what about that?
[07:45] <BHSPitLappy> the time I spent on 2000, I did fine
[07:45] <AWOSDev> I told her "how can you not love the little Linux penguin?"  she said "I do but if I let you install it I won't anymore."  LOL
[07:46] <julian> if only games were made for linux
[07:46] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, does one computer have a wired connection?
[07:46] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, Yes networking is very easy.  I personally didn't even have to configure mine, save the static IP address.
[07:46] <t0mazrage> yes, this one
[07:46] <snoops> wireless is still a bit problematic in linux
[07:46] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, wireless is actually a b**** often.
[07:46] <slide> Has anyone used libapache2_mod_auth_mysql ? It appears that this mod gets forked a lot and the config options one site says work dont work with this one, is there anyway I can download the source for this package?
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> it's an issue with ubuntu I'm personally very unhappy with
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, you'll be fine with the wired one
[07:47] <snoops> it's an issue with all distros BHSPitLappy
[07:47] <AWOSDev> Oh I wasn't talking about WLANs, personally mine is still not working.
[07:47] <AWOSDev> I'm talking on my *desktop*
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> snoops, indeed, but that's no excuse for ubuntu to be lazy/inactive about it
[07:47] <t0mazrage> ok, so the wireless network is a problem with ubuntu?
[07:48] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: the only big problem i see is lack of easy WPA. which means inexperienced users get stuck with a wired connection until they get network-manager-$DISPLAY_MANAGER
[07:48] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, for the other computer, you'll have to install some more apps
[07:48] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: i hope to have that addressed for Edy+1 at the UDS in a few weeks
[07:48] <julian> my laptop was supported out of box
[07:48] <normal> I'm able to boot  the install CDs of Suse, Gentoo, Knoppix, and Fedora Core, but not one Ubuntu....But I want it!
[07:48] <snoops> t0mazrage it's dependant on chipsets of your wireless card.. the intel ones on laptops are fairly easy..but I think the point is, it's not plug and playy
[07:48] <mnepton> t0mazrage: depends on your wireless card and authentication schema
[07:48] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, the sad part is, often a desktop will be -stuck- dependent on wireless.
[07:48] <t0mazrage> ok, but is posible?... i know this gonna be hard to learn, but i want to try.. so, is posible?
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, probably. have faith :)
[07:49] <rredd4> is there a way to disable the bongo drums sound before the login screen in dapper?
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, will you be dual-booting the PC(s)?
[07:49] <t0mazrage> no
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> rredd4, turn off your speakers?
[07:49] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: in that case someone could always resort to WEP instead of WPA until they get a network-manager package. but it's still not elegant.
[07:49] <t0mazrage> i want to forget about windows.. hehe
[07:49] <OmniD> blaaaah
[07:50] <t0mazrage> i'll try... i swear..
[07:50] <normal> I just tried the Oct15 Edgy and it is added to my 'unable to boot' list..This doesn't bode well for the final working either, huh?
[07:50] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, oh, well... maybe you should do this computer first, and then we'll work on the second computer.
[07:50] <BHSPitLappy> just hold off for now
[07:50] <AWOSDev> rredd4, KDM?
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> t0mazrage, maybe even wait for Edgy, on the other computer? it will only be another week or so
[07:51] <SpaceFrog> has anyone managed to get Photoshop CS2 working in Wine?
[07:51] <rredd4> AwosDev laptop  gdm
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> and edgy might suit the wireless pc better
[07:51] <snoops> yep SpaceFrog
[07:51] <t0mazrage> ok..
[07:51] <AWOSDev> rredd4, I know, that was a suggestion in the form of a question...meaning...have you tried KDM?
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, there's a little tutorial for it somewhere
[07:51] <snoops> there was an article about it on digg yesterday.. let me go get it
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> google it. photoshop cs2 wine
[07:51] <rredd4> BHSPitLappy  using a laptop cannot shut off speakers
[07:51] <SpaceFrog> i'll take a look
[07:52] <AWOSDev> GIYF...
[07:52] <BHSPitLappy> it's a pretty simple process, if you have the windows box available SpaceFrog
[07:52] <rredd4> AwosDev no, can i in kdm?
[07:52] <AWOSDev> rredd4, no bongos at all in KDM.
[07:52] <mnepton> SpaceFrog: are you a graphics pre-press professional?
[07:52] <rredd4> AwosDev ok
[07:52] <SpaceFrog> mnepton: No
[07:52] <t0mazrage> to share files and folders with windows pc? i remember when i had the mandrake, i had to install the samba server... is the same with ubunut?
[07:52] <t0mazrage> ubuntu*
[07:52] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, System>Administration>Login Window
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, third tab.
[07:53] <snoops> SpaceFrog http://blog.publicidadpixelada.com/2006/10/10/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps/
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> whoops
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> rredd4, read my last few messages to SpaceFrog
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, sorry :)
[07:54] <mnepton> SpaceFrog: it is my experience that only such people need what P-shop offers that GIMP does not
[07:54] <BHSPitLappy> AWOSDev, I think switching to kdm is a bit extravagant of a suggestion.  especially considering his need is an implemented setting
[07:54] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, ehh, it's arguable.
[07:54] <SpaceFrog> mnepton: I expected someone to say that, but all i can say is that I prefer photoshop
[07:55] <BHSPitLappy> gimp really doesn't match up to the ease-of-use features of cs
[07:55] <rredd4> BHSPitLappy ok
[07:55] <SpaceFrog> agreed
[07:55] <mnepton> yeah, but $500/year is a good incentive to learn something new.
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, you'll hear a lot of "Why not try the opensource variant instead!" in here, but it's your choice to run your software if you want.
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, #wineHQ deals with wine, by the way
[07:56] <snoops> well, the gimp is far behind in things like plugins, cmyk colour support etc..but well, you pay for what you get :). Good luck on the tutorial SpaceFrog
[07:56] <Anubuntu> heyo, I have a 5gig file that I need to get from ubuntu to windows. there is only an ntfs and several ext3 partitions on the drive, no network I can transfer it over, and no dvds to burn with.
[07:56] <Anubuntu> any ideas how to achieve this?
[07:57] <julian> 3g-driver
[07:57] <mikm[laptop] > Anubuntu there are tools floating around that let you read ext2/3 partitions in windows
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> SpaceFrog, if you're a paid customer, you might want to use that stock to write a nice email to adobe about getting the Linux platform supported in their software.
[07:58] <Anubuntu> I had Explore2fs, but it crashes whenever I try to take a big file over.
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> it means less when a pirate writes the e-mail, though.
[07:58] <krazykit> Anubuntu: ntfs-3g
[07:58] <jasper`> BHSPitLappy, hasn't Disney already successfully ported it?
[07:58] <mnepton> Anubuntu: http://fs-driver.org
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> I've been meaning to try ntfs-3g
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> jasper`, huh?
[07:58] <SpaceFrog> BHSPitLappy: Thanks
[07:59] <jasper`> I'm fairly certain Disney managed to run Photoshop on Linux.
[07:59] <snoops> Anubuntu go to fs-driver.org for a ext2 which also supports ext3 partitions for full read/write support on windows
[07:59] <snoops> ext2 driver*
[07:59] <julian> maybe using crossover office
[07:59] <mnepton> jasper`: i'm prtettyy sure Macrodobe did not give Disney the Photoshop source ;)
[07:59] <mnepton> *pretty
[07:59] <jasper`> Big fuss a year or two about it, they weren't willing to pay ridiculous money on fees to MS etc.
[08:00] <jasper`> mnepton, the way I understood it they hadn't.
[08:00] <mnepton> jasper`: so how do you port code you don't have?
[08:00] <mnepton> (neat trick, if it works)
[08:00] <AWOSDev> mnepton, ndisasm :)
[08:00] <jasper`> I believe they ran it through their own polished version of wine.
[08:01] <mnepton> my eyes! the goggles do nossing!
[08:01] <AWOSDev> Huh?
[08:01] <mnepton> "ndisasm"
[08:01] <t0mazrage> the last question today, ubuntu is compatible with hp lasserjet printers?.. can i get or see a list of compatible models.?
[08:01] <mnepton> horrific.
[08:01] <jasper`> http://www.google.com/search?q=disney+photoshop+linux&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
[08:01] <mnepton> t0mazrage: http://linux-printing.org
[08:02] <AWOSDev> t0mazrage, also, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[08:02] <mnepton> ooops
[08:02] <mnepton> t0mazrage: http://linuxprinting.org
[08:02] <rredd4> BHSPitLappy ty!! that is a better solution then changing to kdm... !
[08:02] <jasper`> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1210083,00.asp 3 years ago, should have it nicely tweaked by now.
[08:03] <BHSPitLappy> rredd4, no prob
[08:03] <SpaceFrog> jasper': Photoshop 7.0 runs pretty decently in Linux, but CS2 doesn't even install.