[13:18] <stangeland> ikonia, i just want my system to work...suddently i cannot do apt-get update...apparantly because its no longer supported :/ its 1310
[13:19] <faLUCE> hello. A buggy program messed up some system files and now, when I try to exec sshfs, it says "fusermount: failed to chdir to mountpoint: Permission denied", and I'm forced to exec the command as root. how can I solve? thanks
[13:19] <Guest92254> "xorg.conf" in /X11/, correct?
[13:19] <ikonia> stangeland: ok, so what you need to do is either a.) upgrade to a supported version b.) clean install a supported version c.) point your sources.list at the old-release archive and continue unsupported
[13:19] <ikonia> Guest92254: correct
[13:19] <ikonia> stangeland: which option sounds best for you ?
[13:19] <ikonia> faLUCE: what "buggy program"
[13:19] <ikonia> faLUCE: what "system files"
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: is the folder marked as executable?
[13:20] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: which folder?
[13:20] <stangeland> ikonia, clean install is not an option atm. upgrade would be best...but im afraid if that will give me functionality and ultimately dataloss ? So i guess only option c remains?
[13:20] <ikonia> stangeland: ok, so it's that simple, as your release is EOL - the repos get moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[13:20] <faLUCE> ikonia: 1) autosshfs (some rubbish that I found on github) 2) don't know which files
[13:21] <ikonia> faLUCE: so how are you telling me it's messed up system files if you don't know what it's done
[13:21] <stangeland> ikonia, i see. so i update the sources list with that?
[13:21] <ikonia> stangeland: exactly
[13:21] <ikonia> stangeland: but on the same distro
[13:21] <faLUCE> ikonia: exactly
[13:21] <ikonia> faLUCE: exactly what ?
[13:21] <ikonia> faLUCE: you're saying "it's updated system files" - yet you have no idea if it's updated system files/what it's odne
[13:21] <ikonia> done
[13:22] <stangeland> ikonia, yes ok i understand. so eg.  deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy multiverse becomes deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy multiverse  ?
[13:22] <ikonia> stangeland: you got it
[13:22] <stangeland> right. ill try it
[13:22] <stangeland> thank you
[13:22] <faLUCE> ikonia: I don't know what files are messed. I only know that I receive that msg
[13:22] <eeee> faLUCE: when doing what?
[13:22] <ikonia> faLUCE: right, so it's possibly not touched system files
[13:22] <ikonia> faLUCE: best to say "I dont know" rather than make something up
[13:23] <llorephie> Hmm, on RU and CS mirrors all stayed as it was.. :)
[13:23] <ikonia> llorephie: what ?
[13:23] <faLUCE> eeee: eeee: hello. A buggy program messed up some system files and now, when I try to exec sshfs, it says "fusermount: failed to chdir to mountpoint: Permission denied", and I'm forced to exec the command as root. how can I solve? thanks
[13:23] <atsauhk> does anyone know the syntax for cloaking?
[13:23] <ikonia> eeee: he has no idea what it's done - yet keeps insisting it's messed up system files
[13:23] <stangeland> ikonia, ick that did not solve it :/
[13:23] <ikonia> eeee: it's not messed up system files
[13:23] <llorephie> ikonia: with sausy support
[13:23] <ikonia> eeee: I advise caution on the info
[13:24] <ikonia> stangeland: what's the current error ?
[13:24] <ikonia> stangeland: (use a pastebin if you need to)
[13:24] <stangeland> ikonia, this is my current sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8131207/
[13:24] <faLUCE> ikonia: sshfs worked well without asking root privileges until I installed that program
[13:24] <ikonia> stangeland: what's the error
[13:25] <ikonia> faLUCE: thats fine - but you have no idea what it's done, so stop telling people it's updated system files when you have no idea
[13:25] <stangeland> ikonia, this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8131209/
[13:25] <ikonia> stangeland: your dns broken
[13:25] <ikonia> stangeland: it's nothing to do with apt-get
[13:25] <stangeland> aha i see
[13:25] <stangeland> that makes sense
[13:25] <ikonia> stangeland: it can't resolve old-release.ubuntu.com or ppa.launchpad.net
[13:25] <faLUCE> ikonia: please don't be polemic without a reason. I just asked how to fix those permission problems
[13:26] <ikonia> faLUCE: please give proper information then rather than making up incorrect details
[13:26] <stangeland> ikonia, yeah it would make sense that its the dns that causes problems
[13:26] <faLUCE> ikonia: I don't have further infos
[13:26] <ikonia> faLUCE: right - so "I don't know what has happened" rather than "it's updated system files" - when you have no idea IF it's touched ANY system files
[13:27] <stangeland> ikonia, ahhh that fixed it
[13:27] <stangeland> or maybe not :(
[13:27] <the543> Hello, I have several large folders in MailDir format and I would like for Thunderbird (any other programm you may suggest) to index them so I can properly arrange / read / move them etc. Any ideas? (I know I could install a local linux server put it there and connect TB via imap but I am looking for a simpler solution).  any ideas? thanks!
[13:27] <konnu> is it possible to get help installing sbnc on shell account here?
[13:27] <ikonia> stangeland: nice work
[13:27] <ikonia> stangeland: ok, so what's the correct problem/error
[13:27] <ikonia> konnu: on an ubuntu system ?
[13:28] <faLUCE> ikonia: please don't be stupid and activate your mind. I just installed https://github.com/hellekin/autosshfs . Installation  means "make install". then, I uninstalled the app and I have that problem
[13:28] <evilop> the543: tunderbird supports mdir
[13:28] <evilop> the543: just create another account, select type of maildir, point it at the right place
[13:28] <konnu>    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[13:28] <konnu> ues ikonia
[13:28] <konnu> yes
[13:28] <ikonia> konnu: what's the issue ?
[13:29] <stangeland> ikonia, ok i changed back to no.archive and then it worked :)
[13:29] <konnu> http://pastebin.com/Hz24bSwk
[13:29] <konnu> thats the problem
[13:29] <stangeland> ikonia, so only problem from the start was dns :)
[13:29] <evilop> the543: most email clients supports maildir
[13:29] <ikonia> stangeland: cool, nice work
[13:29] <niklau> ikonia: im the guest who asked you about xorg just before. I just created the file and added; "option "Prefered Mode" "-modline-"".
[13:29] <eeee> faLUCE: what are the permissions on the filesystem you're trying to mount?
[13:29] <the543> evilop: when I create a new account I have only IMAP and POP3 as options
[13:30] <stangeland> ikonia, thanks :) Thanks for your help....although i should upgrade to 14.04 asap
[13:30] <evilop> the543: there is a plugin for maildir supprt
[13:30] <niklau> now I get black screen at boot, oh lord
[13:30] <evilop> support*
[13:30] <evilop> the543: there are also clients that support maildir out of the box, like claws, evolution, mutt
[13:30] <ikonia> stangeland: do it when you have time to focus on it properly
[13:30] <konnu> ikonia: you ever installed sbnc on shell ?
[13:30] <niklau> hi. is there anyone who might have the patience to help me out with xorg and xrandr for a moment
[13:31] <eeee> faLUCE: you could take a look at autosshfs and see what it does
[13:31] <ikonia> konnu: what's the actual problem you are having
[13:31] <vramana> I just installed the latest Haskell Platform on Ubuntu 14.04 When I type ghci,  i get this error Loading package integer-gmp ... <command line>: can't load .so/.DLL for: libgmp.so How do I resolve this?
[13:31] <_Trullo> http://pastebin.com/fMea01bK anyone know how to solve this?
[13:31] <stangeland> ikonia, yeah... exactly
[13:31] <vramana> it is somewhat similar to this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6360724/installing-ghc-binaries-on-linux-cant-find-libgmp-so ??
[13:31] <evilop> the543: there are also tools to convert maildir to eg sqlite, mbox, whatever
[13:32] <ikonia> _Trullo: we went through this the other day didn't way, you had a PPA for xmbc that was causing a problem as it supplied the mysql package
[13:32] <_Trullo> hmm..
[13:32] <ikonia> "didn't we" sorry, typo
[13:33] <_Trullo> so how do I fix it?
[13:33] <niklau> I can't seem to read the manual right on anything that I do right now. does anyone feel like helping_? o lord
[13:33] <Dramors> Hey when I wanna run a script without having it floud my terminal, it's ./script > /dev/null right?
[13:33] <evilop> the543: other than that you can run dovecot on localhost
[13:33] <ikonia> _Trullo: as I recall we advised you to remove the packages from the PPA
[13:33] <evilop> the543: to get imap access
[13:34] <evilop> Dramors: or &> if you also want to redirect stderr
[13:34] <the543> evilop: thank you a lot!
[13:35] <evilop> Dramors: asuming you are running a sane shell
[13:35] <Dramors> evigrande: thanks :)
[13:35] <_Trullo> how do I find which ppa it is?
[13:35] <evilop> Dramors: or 2>&1 > /dev/null
[13:35] <Dramors> What does that do?
[13:35] <ikonia> _Trullo: it was the xbmc one as I recall
[13:35] <Dramors> sorry evigrande I meant to say evilop, tab failed :P
[13:35] <_Trullo> hmm.. where is the list of all the ppa's?
[13:36] <_Trullo> I know sources.list is one, but where is the other?
[13:36] <ikonia> _Trullo: depends how you installed them, either in /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[13:36] <_Trullo> team-xbmc-ppa-saucy.list team-xbmc-ppa-saucy.list.distUpgrade
[13:36] <_Trullo> I got those
[13:36] <ikonia> _Trullo: that looks like the ones
[13:38] <_Trullo> and I just remove those from the list?
[13:38] <ikonia> _Trullo: no
[13:38] <ikonia> _Trullo: you need to remove the packages it installed
[13:39] <ikonia> _Trullo: the package having a problem came from that repo, that repo is not something built / supported by ubuntu
[13:39] <the543> !live
[13:40] <_Trullo> https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=saucy not much there.. and nothing like mysql..
[13:42] <ikonia> _Trullo: we went through it the other day, I don't rember all the details and it turned out to be the PPA
[13:47] <zot> Hi!
[13:48] <_Trullo> ikonia, think I solved it..
[13:48] <power> hello everyone i need some help please
[13:48] <ikonia> gret
[13:48] <ikonia> great
[13:48] <cfhowlett> power,
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !ask
[13:48] <_Trullo> it was wrong ip in my.cnf...
[13:49] <power> I just installed ubuntu 12.04
[13:49] <power> and formatted my complete hard drive
[13:49] <power> it was a clean install
[13:49] <evilop> power: why install an ancient version?
[13:49] <power> but now i have problems with wifi connectivity
[13:50] <power> because it was the only version i had
[13:50] <cfhowlett> evilop, 12.04 is not ancient and is supported through 2017
[13:50] <ikonia> it's not acent
[13:50] <ikonia> it's fully supported
[13:50] <power> i thought i will upgrade to 14.10
[13:50] <ikonia> power: that would be unwise
[13:50] <ikonia> 14.10 is still in development and not an LTS releas.e
[13:50] <loki__> what is openwrt ipk?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> power, 14.10 is beta.  not ready for prime time, but if you don't mind breaking and fixing everything yourself, go for it.
[13:51] <evilop> 2.5 years is ancient :/
[13:51] <ikonia> evilop: no, it's not
[13:51] <loki__> can i get information out of there?
[13:51] <ikonia> loki__: the web
[13:51] <power> I tried to upgrade to 12.10
[13:51] <loki__> for example dependenices?
[13:51] <ikonia> power: 12.10 is EOL
[13:51] <cfhowlett> power, OR you install the next Long Term Support version 14.04.1
[13:51] <loki__> oh it is ubuntu)
[13:51] <loki__> sorry
[13:52] <cfhowlett> power, 12.10 is dead.  do not install.  torrent/download 14.04.1 and clean install
[13:52] <power> Currently i am upgrading to 10.04.1
[13:52] <ikonia> what ?
[13:52] <cateract> Hello, I'm facing an issue in evince package. While I try to select any line or word I get black background, which makes that line or word unreadable.
[13:52] <ikonia> you're upgrading from 12.04 to 10.04.1 /??
[13:52] <ray1> hi. I'm having trouble with usbhid and I can't set mousepoll=2 with the generic /sys/modules method. I know theres a few workarounds to load the option at boot, like kernel cmdline for example. I have no experience with this.
[13:52] <power> yes
[13:52] <cateract> please tell me how to change this background colour
[13:52] <cfhowlett> power, not sure you're not trolling us.  You JUST said you installed 12.04.  clarify
[13:52] <cateract> to something light color
[13:52] <ikonia> power: please don't be silly
[13:52] <ikonia> power: 12.04 is later than 10.04 so it's not possible to upgrade to an older version
[13:52] <power> 12.04 to 10.04.1
[13:53] <ikonia> power: no
[13:53] <power> sorry sorrry
[13:53] <cfhowlett> power, 12 = year.  04 = month.
[13:53] <power> it was just a typo
[13:53] <ikonia> power: you're not doing that , so please don't pretend you are
[13:53] <power> extremely sorry
[13:53] <cfhowlett> power, not funny.  install 14.04.1   and I'm done with this.
[13:53] <power> i am upgrading to 12.04 to 14.04.1
[13:54] <power> i am extremely sorry guys
[13:54] <power> can i tell my problem i was facing
[13:54] <ray1> im sure this isn't the right channel to look for help on usbhid and such as this is specifically ubuntu
[13:55] <ray1> but where should I then look for help
[13:56] <power> @cfhowlett
[13:57] <power> @ikonia
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !details | power,
[13:57] <power> ok
[13:57] <power> I installed this ubuntu12.04 three days ago, it was a clean install but when the system booted it is not connecting to the available wifi network, touch pad geustures are not working
[13:58] <power> fetching the upgrade failed when i tried to upgrade to 12.10
[13:58] <power> http://askubuntu.com/questions/515352/ubuntu-12-04-wireless-wifi-not-working-can-not-upgrade-to-12-10-touchpad-ges/515360#515360
[13:58] <power> I used all these commands but still no positive results
[13:59] <cfhowlett> power, some of those issues are quite likely to be fixed by upgrading to 14.04.  for the last time: 12.10 is DEAD.  open a terminal: sudo do-release-upgrade will bring you to 14.04.1         or get the ISO and clean install.
[13:59] <power> Yes
[13:59] <power> I tried to do that
[13:59] <power> but this is the problem
[13:59] <littleevilcorvax> fckin xchat
[13:59] <power> Running the 'unity' desktop environment is not fully supported by your graphics hardware. You will maybe end up in a very slow environment after the upgrade. Our advice is to keep the LTS version for now. For more information see wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/UpdateManagerWarningForUnity3D Do you still want to continue with the upgrade?
[13:59] <littleevilcorvax> guys
[13:59] <littleevilcorvax> pls
[13:59] <littleevilcorvax> advice good irc client
[14:00] <cfhowlett> power, lubuntu or xubuntu then.  get the ISO. clean install.
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !irc | LittleFool
[14:01] <ahehalfalfow> whoa
[14:01] <ahehalfalfow> hello
[14:01] <power> what will happen if i upgrade to 14.10 from 12.04
[14:01] <ahehalfalfow> power: you'll get more recent packages
[14:01] <power> is there any possibility? that my problems will get solved
[14:01] <cfhowlett> power, so you're either not reading or trolling.  final message.  14.10 is beta.  not supported.  install 14.04
[14:01] <power> yes yes
[14:01] <power> 14.04.1
[14:02] <power> What a noob I am -_-
[14:02] <ahehalfalfow> i just programmed a /dev/fb0 framebuffer screensaver... in the Bourne Again SHell...
[14:02] <ahehalfalfow> that was interesting.
[14:03] <power> what will happen if i upgrade to 14.04.1 from 12.04? even when it says the graphics are not supported
[14:03] <ahehalfalfow> i found out /dev/fb0 handles data in 0xBBGGRR(?)(?) format so far. 4 bytes per pixel.
[14:04] <cfhowlett> power, lubuntu/xubuntu don't use unity. problem solved.
[14:04] <ahehalfalfow> SOON I WILL MAKE A FRAMEBUFFER VERSION OF ROGUE/NETHACK. i hope... ;-;
[14:04] <power> okay
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !flavors | power
[14:04] <ikonia> ahehalfalfow: can you make a keyboard without a caps lock
[14:04] <fridaynext> anyone know of a good hardware channel to discuss pc/server builds?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> ahehalfalfow, ask your ubuntu questions.  for general chitchat; #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:05] <ahehalfalfow> n0 but 1 c0uld pr0b4bly m4k3 4 5cr1pt t0 d0 th4t
[14:05] <ikonia> ahehalfalfow: so please stop with it then
[14:05] <ikonia> fridaynext: ##hardware ?
[14:05] <mdev> when the next release of LTS server version coming out?
[14:06] <power> thank you guys
[14:06] <ahehalfalfow> sorry. im just trying to find a chat group that accepts linux discussions, it seems i came to the wrong group! :[ sorry
[14:06] <cfhowlett> mdev, 2016
[14:06] <power> for your time
[14:06] <fridaynext> ikonia: thanks!
[14:06] <mdev> wow ways away, so 14.04 is the very latest right?
[14:06] <ikonia> ahehalfalfow: yeah, this is the wrong channel, this is ubuntu support, not linux discussion
[14:07] <power> I'll install xubuntu
[14:07] <cfhowlett> mdev, well, 14.04.1
[14:07] <cfhowlett> mdev, also #ubuntu-server is a channel
[14:08] <mdev> Topic is 'Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[14:08] <mdev> thanks
[14:10] <power> this is last doubt of mine
[14:10] <power> my wifi drivers are not working at all, and i can use my wired connections not more than 2 hours
[14:11] <cateract> hello
[14:11] <cfhowlett> cateract, greetings.  ask  your ubuntu questions
[14:11] <power> so if i upgrade to 14.04.1
[14:12] <power> is there any possibility of that my wifi problem will be solved?
[14:12] <cateract> cfhowlett, I'm getting an issue while using evince, Whenever i try to select a word or line in evince, it gives me black background
[14:13] <cfhowlett> cateract, and the selection is unviewable?
[14:13] <cateract> cfhowlett, yes
[14:13] <cateract> cfhowlett, how do i change this colour
[14:14] <littlebit> hi people, I have a question concerning the ubuntu repository. There is a package called "mednafen" and the current version of the ubuntu repository is not the latest and I wanted to know where and how can I point out that in order to get the latest version of that package?
[14:14] <ikonia> littlebit: why do you want the latest version
[14:14] <ikonia> littlebit: whats wrong with the ubuntu version
[14:15] <littlebit> ikonia: the current ubuntu version can't handle snes roms
[14:15] <cfhowlett> cateract, I see nothing in help file suggesting that highlighting color can be selected.  play with your global system appearance/theme settings.  I'd guess that's the source of the trouble.  *guess*
[14:15] <littlebit> at the site http://mednafen.sourceforge.net/releases/ the latest version can handle snes roms
[14:15] <ikonia> littlebit: is that a known/documented bug/feature ?
[14:16] <cateract> cfhowlett, I am searching this for a lot of time now
[14:16] <cateract> cfhowlett, fine i'll find something
[14:16] <ikonia> !info mednafen
[14:16] <littlebit> ikonia: I'm not sure, because it is my first time that I ran into an unupdated package in the ubuntu repo
[14:16] <eeee> snes is super nintendo entertainment system
[14:16] <ikonia> littlebit: do you know whwat version the snes support came in at ?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> littlebit, #mednafen                      might know more
[14:17] <cfhowlett> littlebit, also sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:17] <littlebit> cfhowlett: let me try that
[14:18] <mellamokb> hey all, i just installed gnome, and i'm trying to figure out how to enter a "^" which is part of my password
[14:18] <mellamokb> i type shift+6 and nothing happens...
[14:19] <littlebit> ikonia: yes, it starts at version 0.9
[14:19] <ikonia> littlebit: you'll need to log a bug then
[14:19] <littlebit> ikonia: ok, where do I do that?
[14:19] <ikonia> littlebit: its unlikely it's going to get updated in my opinion
[14:19] <ikonia> littlebit: launchpad.net
[14:19] <ikonia> !bug > littlebit
[14:20] <littlebit> ikonia: y do u say so?
[14:20] <ikonia> littlebit: because it's the norm for ubuntu not to update packages in the middle of release without a really good reason
[14:21] <littlebit> ikonia: ah ok, but it will at each cycle tough which is in 04 and 09 or 11 right?
[14:22] <ikonia> littlebit: it may/may not change versions at each release.
[14:22] <cury> hi, anyone knows why softdog (software watchdog) for ubuntu 12.04.3 doesn't work at all?  I triggered the kernel crash with "echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger",  and wanted to see a rebooting, but no luck...
[14:22] <eeee> littlebit: if you want, you can compile from source
[14:23] <littlebit> eeee: that is true, but I thought of pointing out that there is a package in the ubuntu repo that needs to be updated for the next cyle
[14:23] <littlebit> *cycle
[14:23] <cury> I'm sure the watchdog daemon is running correctly.   with "ps -ef" to check the process state, and also "tail /var/log/syslog" to see if watchdog service was started properly.
[14:24] <eeee> littlebit: alright, cool
[14:25] <eeee> thought you didn't know you could still get it
[14:25] <eeee> before then
[14:25] <littlebit> eeee: yea true
[14:25] <cury> however,  the system could reboot successfully if I tried to kill the watchdog process by:  # kill -STOP $(cat /var/run/watchdog.pid)
[14:29] <Jimbo> Hi, im having some technical issues regarding the Wifi. It is a Asus X550C laptop. The network hardware switch is ON, When I try to press fn+f2 (for the wifi-switch, nothing happens). so I cant connect to wifi =(
[14:30] <nashant> Could someone please tell me what the hell is going on with my SSD drives? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/43ae10838f1820734a07
[14:38] <Basketball> i wrote a contab for rtcwake and entered it with crontab -e but it didnt run
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: if you run: crontab -l , do you see the crontab you added?
[14:40] <Basketball> i see my 3 ones ActionParsnip  did it type them right
[14:40] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem
[14:40] <Basketball> 0 7 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 28800 -m mem
[14:40] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 1,0,6 pmi action suspend
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: you cant add sudo to cron
[14:40] <llorephie> Hi again... Now I configure with ubuntu-customisation-kit Ubuntu 14.04.1 ISO, in terminal mode I installed... Many packages. Such as ubuntustudio* packages, wine, LAMP-server. But will it correct work on target PCs?
[14:41] <llorephie> Or for this I must use other solutions?
[14:41] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, so do i just remove sudo from it
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: you need to run: sudo crontab -e , to edit root's crontab and add the commands without sudo
[14:41] <cfhowlett> llorephie, *should* work.
[14:41] <Basketball> and ActionParsnip the 3rd line should have ran last night at midnight and it didnt
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: if the commands need sudo to work, you need to cron as root, not your user
[14:42] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem
[14:42] <Basketball> 0 7 * * 2,3,4,5,1 rtcwake -l -s 28800 -m mem
[14:42] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 1,0,6 pmi action suspend
[14:42] <Basketball> and ActionParsnip how do i do that
[14:42] <llorephie> cfhowlett: do you know, is there some alternatives for this? Need install this image on 15 monoblocks with dual-boot with Windows =\
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: do what?
[14:42] <Basketball> root
[14:42] <chrs-> any way to disable trackpad while typing in ubuntu?
[14:43] <cfhowlett> llorephie, netinstall is the first thing that comes to mind, but I don't know if you can netinstall in dualboot
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: you need to run: sudo crontab -e , like I already said, and cron as root if the command needs root access
[14:43] <llorephie> cfhowlett: there is no central server or LAN-connection. School =(
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[14:44] <chrs-> ActionParsnip: you got me, i shouldn't be asking in here. i'm not running a supported version
[14:44] <cfhowlett> llorephie, well, then ... start booting and installing.  Have fun with that :)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: then why ask?
[14:44] <chrs-> i'm a gambler
[14:45] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, that still doesnt explain why pmi action suspend didnt run at midnight last night
[14:45] <chrs-> i was hoping for the best
[14:45] <llorephie> cfhowlett: about 15Gb of packages >,...,<
[14:45] <llorephie> Don't sure about our internet connection :\
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: if your release is EOL I suggest you upgrade or reinstall to get to a supported release
[14:45] <cfhowlett> chrs-, the best is you get your OS support from the OS channels.
[14:45] <chrs-> ActionParsnip: my release is 14.10 but theres not that many people in ubuntu+1
[14:45] <cfhowlett> llorephie, perhaps setting up your own repo mirror is an option.
[14:45] <eeee> chrs-: settings > mouse > disable while typing
[14:46] <WeiJunLi> hello my terminal seems to have a limit of text to being displayed.I am scrolling up and I cannot see the text above, how do I solve that?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: you could add a command to update a file with some text, the n run the pmi command so you know the line was processed
[14:46] <chrs-> eeee: weird, it's already checked
[14:46] <llorephie> cfhowlett: Hmm... What size of Ubuntu repo is now about?) Maybe for 1 night I can download it...
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: that is where is is supported. Just because the channel is dead doesnt mean you can fall back to here
[14:46] <chrs-> eeee: theres already a problem with the trackpad driver that i'm about to file a bug for, for a different issue
[14:46] <dannixon> WeiJunLi: AFAIK it depends on the terminal you are using
[14:47] <chrs-> ActionParsnip: i know, sorry
[14:47] <chrs-> eeee: so maybe theres it's another driver issue
[14:47] <chrs-> ok, i'm gone. thanks.
[14:47] <WeiJunLi> dannixon: default terminal ubuntu14.04
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> chrs-: you do realise that not only is Utopic not even remotely ready or stable, but when it does come out its only got 9 months of support
[14:47] <cfhowlett> llorephie, 8 gigs max for plain vanilla ubuntu
[14:48] <dannixon> WeiJunLi: Im
[14:48] <llorephie> cfhowlett: wow... Ubuntu Studio must be not over 30Gb... Thanks :)
[14:48] <eeee> WeiJunLi: what do you mean? theres a scrollback set in the preferences
[14:48] <cfhowlett> llorephie, not even close
[14:48] <eeee> WeiJunLi: try shift+uparrow
[14:48] <eeee> WeiJunLi: sorry, shift+pageup
[14:49] <dannixon> WeiJunLi: I;m not sure what the default is, haven't used it for a while, but the option you want is the default scrollback length
[14:49] <WeiJunLi> eeee: it writes AAAAAA
[14:49] <ivan_newbie> hello world
[14:49] <WeiJunLi> on terminal
[14:49] <cfhowlett> llorephie, I've got ubuntustudio  with xubuntu-restricted-extras and a few odds - ends. 11 gigs not counting /home
[14:49] <ivan_newbie> this is my first linux experience
[14:49] <eeee> WeiJunLi: yeah sorry, shift+pageup
[14:50] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  what do i type
[14:50] <WeiJunLi> anyway I solved it
[14:50] <WeiJunLi> thank you!
[14:50] <eeee> np
[14:50] <llorephie> cfhowlett: wow... Thanks :)
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: what is the output of: echo $USER
[14:51] <Basketball> harris
[14:51] <rypervenche> ivan_newbie: Hello, welcome.
[14:52] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  harris
[14:52] <WeiJunLi> anyway In the profile preferences there is scrolling info to Unlimited but it always find a limit anyway lool
[14:52] <sajan> wafflejock,
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: then change the last line to: 0 0 * * 1,0,6 echo "suspend" | tee /home/harris/Desktop/suspendran.txt; pmi action suspend
[14:53] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, ok and what about the other 2
[14:54] <Basketball> idk if they work
[14:54] <eeee> Basketball: if you run pmi action suspend in a terminal
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: 3rd time. Run: sudo crontabe -e ,put those commands there so they are cron'd as root
[14:54] <eeee> does it work?
[14:55] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  i put all 3 in sudo contab -e
[14:55] <eeee> Basketball: why are you using it over pm-suspend ?
[14:55] <Basketball> eeee, no reason
[14:55] <eeee> try it in the terminal
[14:55] <ubunt> i don't find a preview images from terminal that to work it, can you help me?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: cool, then it will run the commands as root
[14:55] <Basketball> try what via terminal eeee
[14:55] <eeee> pmi action suspend
[14:55] <Basketball> ok ActionParsnip  we see tonight when it does that
[14:56] <eeee> Basketball: i think it ran, but the command isn't working
[14:56] <eeee> Basketball: do you have pmi installed?
[14:57] <Raz1> What games do you guys play in linux?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Raz1, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:57] <Raz1> all right
[15:00] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  how do i make this also run sunday at midnight 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem  what do i add
[15:00] <eeee> Basketball: have you done a apt-get install powermanagement-interface ?
[15:01] <eeee> Basketball: cause if you haven't, you don't have the command pmi
[15:02] <Raz1> On that topic. I recently experimented with TLP (on and off) and intel pstate (on and off) on my ivybridge laptop. pstate decreased battery life whereas tlp made no difference at all regardless of scaling governor
[15:02] <Basketball> eeee,  how do i make this also run sunday at midnight 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem  what do i add
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: 0 0 * * 6 command , is saturday going to sunday at midnight....
[15:04] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  no i want it to run command sunday through thursday
[15:04] <eeee> wouldn't that be friday midnight ? 6 = saturday and 0 0 being the start ? ( i haven't tried it.. )
[15:11] <ysangkok> i want to build an old program for 32-bit on this 64-bit machine... so i install lib32ncurses5-dev, but i am missing lib32svgalib1-dev. does anyone know an easy way to make lib32XXX packages?
[15:11] <expunge> ysangkok: apt-file can help you find things
[15:12] <ysangkok> expunge: i know, but the package i am looking for was never generated; so of course apt-file can't help me
[15:12] <expunge> =)
[15:13] <ysangkok> i mean, the system works for lib32ncurses5-dev, i just don't know how it works
[15:13] <ysangkok> it is turtles all the way down though... when building svgalib for 32-bit, it needs the 32-bit version of libx86... and these obscure packages have hideous build systems
[15:14] <expunge> heh
[15:20] <popey> ysangkok: libsvga1-dev ?
[15:20] <popey> ysangkok: apt-get install libsvga1-dev:i386 libx86-1:i386
[15:25] <bluefox83> ok, so i made a change to /etc/default/grub and now when i do update-grub i get this error: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 11: /etc/default/grub: quiet splash noplymouth acpi_backlight=samsung radeon.audio=1: not found
[15:25] <bluefox83> how do i put grub back to default?
[15:25] <ikonia> use your backup
[15:25] <bluefox83> lets hope i was smart enough to make one
[15:25] <ikonia> you made a backup before you changed the file right ?
[15:26] <bluefox83> nope >.>
[15:26] <ikonia> then you need to manually updated it
[15:26] <bluefox83> if only i could go back in time D:
[15:26] <ikonia> however that error shows the problem is line 11
[15:26] <expunge> bluefox83: pastebin that file
[15:26] <ikonia> so just fix line 11
[15:26] <bluefox83> that's the thing, i did fix it
[15:26] <bluefox83> it still messes up D:
[15:26] <ikonia> then you've not fixed it
[15:27] <expunge> heh
[15:27] <bluefox83> what i mean is, i put it back to what it wasbefore i edited the file
[15:27] <WakeODonnell> Whoop, I got it working from last night!! Installing Ubuntu now. If the guys who helped me out are here, thank you.
[15:27] <ikonia> bluefox83: I doubt that
[15:27] <ikonia> or you wouldn't be asking "how do I put it back to how it was before"
[15:27] <ikonia> you clearly know it's not right
[15:28] <bluefox83> so is there a eway to restore grub to what it was before? like create a new file?
[15:28] <ikonia> bluefox83: no
[15:28] <bluefox83> i'm freaking tempted to just delete it and regenerate a new one >.>
[15:28] <bluefox83> but i dunno how to make it do that either...lol
[15:28] <ikonia> that file is specific to your machine and used to build the grub config
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: the default grub file is available online
[15:28] <ikonia> bluefox83: how do you expect to generate a new one....when your ocnfig file is broken
[15:29] <bluefox83> how about if i reinstall grub O.o
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: why did you not backup the file before editting?
[15:29] <bluefox83> wont it generate  new config file?
[15:29] <ikonia> bluefox83: that just puts the binary back onto the boot sector
[15:29] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: who knows, momentary lapse of stupid i suppose
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: no, but as I said. The file is available online.  Making backups of files allows easy backpedalling, no?
[15:30] <expunge> you don't actually need /etc/default/grub, except to use the upstream and ubuntu way of configuring grub
[15:30] <expunge> =)
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> expunge: user is using Ubuntu.....
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: http://askubuntu.com/questions/277736/regenerate-etc-default-grub
[15:32] <expunge> ActionParsnip: no way!
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> expunge: crazy, right?
[15:32] <expunge> loopey, even
[15:34] <ysangkok> popey: won't that break the existing 64-bit version? if i install packages with the :i386 suffix, do they really go into /usr/lib32 so that gcc will find them when run with -m32 ?
[15:36] <Guest51211> is there a tool in ubuntu for reading .dat files?
[15:36] <bluefox83> ok, going to restart...hope i didn't break anything >.>
[15:37] <wafflejock> Guest51211: dat isn't used for just one type of file, what is the file for?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: ".dat files" tells us nothing
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: what is the file, how did you generate it or come across it
[15:38] <Guest51211> sorry, its a blackberry bbm.dat file
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: so its contact details then?
[15:38] <freetip> http://tinyurl.com/p5bpscx
[15:38] <freetip> free soccer tips
[15:38] <Guest51211> chat history
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: tried gedit?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: little note, in Linux file extensions don't mean much
[15:39] <Xtreme> guys, how to kill xserver and just use system like a shell? a vps
[15:39] <Guest51211> yes, i only see some text that makes sense but mostly gibberish
[15:40] <expunge> Xtreme: don't cross post
[15:40] <Guest51211> ok ActionParsnip i hear u
[15:40] <Xtreme> expunge, dint wanted to
[15:40] <Xtreme> but realised ubuntu will be a better place
[15:40] <Xtreme> PS: lightdm doesnt work
[15:40] <Xtreme> mint uses cinammon
[15:41] <expunge> cinnamon is not a DM
[15:41] <expunge> but you could try gdm instead
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: if you use the 'file' command in terminal, what does it say the file is?
[15:43] <WLM> Hey, I get the message that there is an internal error in Ubuntu (https://i.imgur.com/GfxTXLu.png) at random times — no visible problems happen. Why is that?
[15:43] <wafflejock> Guest51211: looks like if you want to fiddle with it you could try this Blackberry Backup Extractor program, perhaps under wine you can extract the data
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Wlm: report the issue, it helps things get fixed
[15:44] <WLM> I always report them, ActionParsnip, just wondered what was going on
[15:45] <wafflejock> WLM: yeah you can look into the details it provides and/or check you /var/log files particularly syslog, or use dmesg to search for errors, (maybe this helps too, dmesg | grep EE)
[15:45] <Guest51211> file command says its a data file
[15:46] <expunge> good ole 'file' =P
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest51211: can you not make the file again, but use plain text
[15:49] <Guest51211> how ActionParsnip?
[15:50] <blufox83> ok, so the new grub thing worked..thanks for that
[15:51] <blufox83> but now i need to figure out why i can only boot from a 3.8 kernel in recovery mode, and can't boot any other kernels, in recovery mode or otherwise
[15:52] <wafflejock> blufox83: think you mentioned you had a Samsung is a it a chromebook variety?
[15:52] <blufox83> no
[15:53] <blufox83> it's not a chromebook
[15:53] <wafflejock> k was just curious cause I've heard the chromebooks can be more work and more picky about what works
[15:53] <blufox83> mhmm
[15:55] <blufox83> but for whatever reason i can't even install 14.04 from scratch because once i select to try ubuntu it wont start a graphical interface...it just sits at a black screen...when i try to do the check disk for errors...it does the same thing
[15:55] <blufox83> so i'm really confused
[15:56] <wafflejock> blufox83: well from the live CD I think it should only really be dependent on your RAM and the video drivers loading up properly... that's very strange though never seen a boot CD not be able to get the GUI without some error arising first
[15:57] <blufox83> i'm wondering if it's not the default video drivers for my radeon card
[15:57] <blufox83> i had to install drivers for my card from the website on this kernel (3.8) so this is getting out of hand
[15:58] <TimeVirus> how do I disable Lubuntu using hibernate and suspend?
[15:58] <TimeVirus> it is only reboot and shutdown that work properly
[15:58] <wafflejock> blufox83: hmm yeah maybe, I haven't really used ATI myself in a long time cause I always found linux support to be flakey
[15:59] <blufox83> well i have to go...see you later
[16:03] <littlebit> got a question, I have compiled mednafen from source and when i start the program from the terminal, I get: "./configure && make && sudo make install"
[16:03] <littlebit> sry I meant "bash: /usr/games/mednafen: No such file or directory"
[16:03] <bekks> So that file or directory does not exist.
[16:03] <ubunt> how install zgv from terminal?
[16:04] <littlebit> bekks: yes I know but when I use "which mednafen" I get: /usr/local/bin/mednafen
[16:04] <expunge> ubunt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#Adding_the_Universe_and_Multiverse_Repositories
[16:05] <bekks> littlebit: And "/usr/games/mednafen" is not "/usr/local/bin/mednafen"
[16:05] <thecha> hi i just lpartitioned my usb stick with gparted how do i knwo installubuntu 12 on it?
[16:05] <thecha> do i have to run from live cd?
[16:05] <thecha> or can i just do it out of my regular deskotp installation
[16:05] <thecha> ?
[16:05] <thecha> pls help
[16:06] <TimeVirus> how do I prevent ubuntu suing suspend and hibernate?
[16:06] <expunge> thecha: you want to put installation media on it, or install a system _to it_?
[16:06] <expunge> TimeVirus: pardon?
[16:06] <littlebit> bekks: i know but the terminal gives me "bash: /usr/games/mednafen: No such file or directory" when i enter mednafen. but when I enter /usr/local/bin/mednafen it works fine
[16:06] <thecha> a system
[16:06] <TimeVirus> how do I prevent ubuntu using suspend and hibernate
[16:06] <expunge> TimeVirus: you using a laptop?
[16:06] <thecha> expunge thanks first of all! secondly i want to install ubuntu 12 on it and thn have a developing envrionment i can take with me
[16:07] <expunge> thecha: ah
[16:07] <thecha> expunge is that a good or a bad ah?
[16:07] <expunge> thecha: that's a little involved, you'll want to find a howto
[16:07] <thecha> coudl y ou provide a link
[16:07] <expunge> thecha: it's an I won't personally be able to help you much with that ah
[16:07] <thecha> i wastn able to ind anything
[16:07] <expunge> no but someone else might could
[16:07] <expunge> it's been done
[16:07] <thecha> have been looking for houirs
[16:08] <TimeVirus> how do I prevent ubuntu using suspend and hibernate please
[16:08] <TimeVirus> thye dont work
[16:08] <TimeVirus> they*
[16:08] <TimeVirus> any idea?
[16:09] <popey> ysangkok: it shouldn't break, no.
[16:09] <expunge> TimeVirus: you never answered my question
[16:09] <popey> ysangkok: that's the point of multiarch - allows you to have multiple copies of the same lib - 32 and 64 bit, installed at once
[16:10] <TimeVirus> you ask a question to answer mine?
[16:10] <TimeVirus> ok
[16:10] <TimeVirus> why does it matter?
[16:11] <popey> TimeVirus: click the battery in the indicator area, choose power settings. You can disable suspend there. We don't enable hibernate by default.
[16:11] <TimeVirus> ok thanks
[16:13] <expunge> TimeVirus: to follow your example, I can only ignore your question =P
[16:14] <TimeVirus> great we, you and I, are on the same page
[16:14] <TimeVirus> have a nice day
[16:16] <patates> any downsides to create an user with low uid, like 250? I want to prevent it from showing in login screen, lightdm blacklist username doesn't work.
[16:17] <expunge> patates: how'd you try to make it work?
[16:18] <patates> expunge, edited lighdm config, add desired usname in hidden-users=
[16:19] <ysangkok> popey: hmm great! but what is the point of the separately named lib32XXX packages then?
[16:19] <expunge> patates: there's another option, I think, to enable that functionality
[16:20] <patates> expunge: I'd like to know that.
[16:21] <expunge> patates: dpkg -l | grep -i greet
[16:21] <ubunt> repository for zgv?
[16:22] <patates> .. thanks expunge..
[16:24] <expunge> patates: ?
[16:24] <expunge> ubunt: universe
[16:24] <wafflejock> ubunt: doesn't appear to have a current release https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/zgv last released for Precise
[16:24] <patates> expunge: that does nothing. My problem has nothing to do with greeter..
[16:24] <patates> expunge: greeter doesn't offer blacklisting usernames
[16:25] <expunge> patates: you have to find the config file
[16:25] <patates> expunge: ofc I did.
[16:26] <expunge> patates: what file is it?
[16:27] <popey> ysangkok: those may be old package names which haven't been migrated to multiarch?
[16:27] <patates> expunge: lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[16:28] <expunge> patates: so what're the two things you've set?
[16:29] <patates> expunge: no options to set a blacklist
[16:29] <expunge> patates: you should be able to set greeter-hide-users=true, and then in another config hidden-users=foo
[16:30] <patates> but I want to keep a few users, I just want to hide one
[16:30] <patates> expunge
[16:32] <patates> of I think I have fount the problem.. users.conf is ignored bcz I got accountservice installed
[16:33] <Madkiss> cheers. how can I check whether apparmor is enabled or not?
[16:33] <ubunt> don't find zgv and don't find dfbsee amd fbi give me error
[16:33] <ubunt> can you help me
[16:33] <ubunt> ?
[16:33] <ikonia> ubunt: if they are not in the main repos they will either a.) not exist b.) be provided by 3rd parties
[16:34] <Gatis> Hi!
[16:34] <boldfilter1> Hi, when I login I'm not getting a prompt for when I need to use sudo on the first login, then I log out and log back in it's fine
[16:35] <ubunt> some program for to view images in the terminal for ubuntu 14.04?
[16:35] <ysangkok> ubunt: zgv
[16:35] <bazhang> !info xzgv | ubunt
[16:35] <Neurome> Madkiss, sudo apparmor_status
[16:36] <boldfilter1> The problem is pretty consistent
[16:36] <ysangkok> ubunt: if you don't have x running, you can boot without modesetting (nomodeset) and configure svga to use the framebuffer (/etc/vga/libvga.config)... you will probably need root to let svga mess with the terminal
[16:37] <Neurome> I can't get any streaming radio to work in ubuntu
[16:37] <Neurome> on streamtuner2 or streamripstar
[16:37] <ysangkok> popey: thanks! it's working!
[16:37] <GatisO> Hi
[16:37] <ysangkok> GatisO: Hello
[16:38] <ysangkok> Neurome: the easiest solution would probably be to use PulseAudio
[16:38] <ysangkok> Neurome: ah sorry i thought you said audio, but you said radio
[16:38] <boldfilter1> Also when I boot I must run compiz --replace to get unity to work
[16:39] <patates> if I mark an user SystemUser, in accountsservice, does this give the user any privileges? like sudo'ing or something less dangerous?
[16:41] <floWenoL> how can I permanently change the keyboard layout on ubuntu server ~just by changing a configuration file
[16:41] <floWenoL> because I already changed /etc/default/keyboard and no success
[16:47] <kristenbb> What can I do to have 3 partitions mounted  (with their label, in /media/myUser/myLabel, as would happen if I mounted them through the file manager) when I open a session ?
[16:48] <madalby> hi
[16:50] <popey> ysangkok: awesome
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> kristenbb: I think you might want to read up on 'fstab' ?
[16:51] <Neurome> problems getting radio working : (
[16:51] <Neurome> internet radio anybody know ?
[16:51] <kristenbb> SchrodingersScat: are you sure it can easily keep the label that was chosen  for the drive ?
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> kristenbb: at least that's how I've got my two 'Data' partitions mounted on boot
[16:52] <SchrodingersScat> kristenbb: not sure about label, but you can select the path, I have mine set to /media/$(whoami)/foo and that's where it is when it's mounted.
[16:52] <floWenoL> how can I permanently change the keyboard layout on ubuntu server ~just by changing a configuration file
[16:53] <SchrodingersScat> !fstab | kristenbb
[16:53] <rypervenche> floWenoL: You would have to change your keymaps and your xorg.conf if you only want to do it from the command line.
[16:53] <kristenbb> SchrodingersScat: I want 'foo' to be the driver's label. Actually I want to have exactly the same result as if I had clicked on 'mount' from the file manager. So 'foo' does not work for me
[16:53] <gregtom6> hy all
[16:53] <rypervenche> floWenoL: But you should use the GUI to change it.
[16:54] <floWenoL> rypervenche: did you read what I wrote ubuntu SERVER
[16:54] <floWenoL> no gui
[16:54] <rypervenche> floWenoL: Nope, I did not. I'm only half "listening" here. Change your keymaps then. It should be something like /etc/default/keymaps or something like that.
[16:55] <floWenoL> rypervenche: already did
[16:55] <rypervenche> floWenoL: Then log out and back in and you'll be set.
[16:55] <SchrodingersScat> kristenbb: foo is just a placeholder because I don't know what you're actually calling it, and it doesn't help you to know what I call it.  Check out the links ubottu sent you and see if that makes any sense.
[16:55] <gregtom6> can I install drivers into Ubuntu live-cd? and "save the settings" somehow? I don't want to install ubuntu because I'm afraid data loss because of splitting a partition and it would be too much time to save all my datas
[16:55] <floWenoL> rypervenche: I even rebooted
[16:55] <gregtom6> but it would be good if I would be able to use this from playing dvd
[16:55] <rypervenche> floWenoL: pastebin your keymaps file please.
[16:56] <bazhang> gregtom6, persistent usb
[16:56] <floWenoL> hold a sec
[16:56] <bazhang> !usb | gregtom6
[16:56] <kristenbb> SchrodingersScat: but my point is that I don't want to hard code the value. I just want to say 'mount the drive in /dev/sda1' and I want to have exactly the same result as if I had done it from the user interface
[16:57] <rypervenche> kristenbb: Does labeling the file system not work for you?
[16:58] <floWenoL> rypervenche: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d241b41372fe90fe00ce
[16:59] <kristenbb> rypervenche: the file system does have a label. Let me restate my question. I want to be able to mount a partition when the system (or session, I don't mind) starts, and I want it to behave exactly as if I had done it from the user interface (in particular, I don't want to have to specify the location of where it will be mounted, the label of the mounted folder, and I want to be able to unmount it without any privileges)
[16:59] <rypervenche> floWenoL: That is not the right file. Give me a second.
[16:59] <floWenoL> rypervenche: dont have any other that seems related to keyboard in there
[17:02] <kristenbb> is it not possible to automate such as simple task as mounting a drive when the system starts ?
[17:02] <expunge> kristenbb: yup
[17:02] <wafflejock> !fstab
[17:03] <kristenbb> wafflejock: it does not seem that fstab really does what I would do when I click on 'mount' from the user interface
[17:03] <rypervenche> kristenbb: If udev isn't doing that for you automatically, then you may need to write some udisk rules. It should work automatically though. You may also need to have your Window Manager auto-mount them for you.
[17:04] <expunge> kristenbb: how doesn't it?
[17:04] <gregtom6> bazhang: what is the disadvantages of this?
[17:04] <wafflejock> kristenbb: yeah got back late in the conversation here actually other guys peeps here can probably help more
[17:04] <gregtom6> bazhang: I think it will be slower
[17:05] <kristenbb> expunge: well what do I have to do for it to behave exactly as if I had done it by hand ? (in particular, not giving label, mount point, and being able to unmount it without privileges) ?
[17:05] <rypervenche> floWenoL: loadkeys may be what you need to use.
[17:05] <floWenoL> rypervenche: thats what I have been doing but does not survive reboots
[17:05] <gregtom6> bazhang: will this be able to use the two bluetooth adapters connected to the PC?
[17:05] <expunge> kristenbb: particular /etc/fstab options
[17:05] <expunge> kristenbb: and possibly also nautilus, depending
[17:05] <kristenbb> expunge: okay, then maybe this is what I am missing. Which options ?
[17:07] <bazhang> gregtom6, of course it will be slower than a regular install
[17:08] <rypervenche> kristenbb: user   allow a user to mount
[17:09] <kristenbb> rypervenche: and what about choosing the device label as the mount point ?
[17:09] <rypervenche> kristenbb: As I said, I believe that would need to be done through udev rules.
[17:10] <kristenbb> I'm sorry I have no idea what it means. Can you be more specific ?
[17:12] <wafflejock> haven't done this myself but looks like a pretty thorough write up on it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[17:12] <wafflejock> old though so some things may have shifted
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <qjqqyy> #nig hi
[17:13] <wafflejock> ignoring
[17:13] <kimmern25> hey
[17:13] <wafflejock> !ops
[17:13] <OerHeks> qjqqyy, wrong channel
[17:13] <popey> qjqqyy: please stop that
[17:13] <DJones> qjqqyy: Do you have an ubuntu support issue?
[17:13] <qjqqyy> sorry, script misfired
[17:14] <wafflejock> sorry to jump the gun, lots of spammers a few days ago or a persistent troll
[17:15] <DJones> qjqqyy: PLease disable scripts for the ubuntu channels
[17:15] <qjqqyy> roger
[17:16] <MortezaE> Hi. Sometimes some of Nautilus right click option get disabled! e.g. "Move to Trash" and "Rename". What to do?
[17:17] <wafflejock> MortezaE: are you sure you have permissions on the files you're trying to modify
[17:17] <MortezaE> wafflejock, yes of course... i'm talking about my home directory files.
[17:17] <OerHeks> MortezaE, in your /home/  folder or somewhere else?
[17:17] <MortezaE> /home/morteza
[17:18] <wafflejock> MortezaE: always good to check if it's plugged in :)
[17:18] <kimmern25> been trying out ubuntu for somo time now and really love it..but there is something whit windows that have a hold on me i really dont know what. anyone that had this filling?
[17:18] <wafflejock> MortezaE: so... have you tried firing up nautilus from the terminal and see if anything comes out
[17:18] <MortezaE> wafflejock, ok i'll test. thank u
[17:19] <wafflejock> kimmern25: not really.... I keep windows around becasuse I need it to run certain programs (Adobe stuff) but I wish I could leave it (wish Adobe had Linux releases, even at a premium I would pay to leave windows)
[17:20] <expunge> works fine in a VM
[17:20] <wafflejock> yup
[17:20] <expunge> but so do all the native, gratis, free alternatives... natively
[17:20] <expunge> also via Wine =P
[17:20] <wafflejock> expunge: I work with web developers
[17:20] <wafflejock> Wine only runs older versions
[17:20] <wafflejock> expunge: sorry meant designers*
[17:20] <wafflejock> am a developer
[17:20] <expunge> older versions of what?
[17:20] <wafflejock> so I need to be able to open PSDs or AI
[17:20] <kimmern25> wafflejock: i want to leve windows to but there is somthing whit it that make me come back
[17:20] <wafflejock> Photoshop Illustrator
[17:20] <expunge> photoshop and illustrator have changed very little in years
[17:21] <expunge> and gimp and inkscape do all the same things
[17:21] <wafflejock> expunge: designers don't use them
[17:21] <wafflejock> schools force feed Adobe tools
[17:22] <expunge> oh you just use them to convert files =)
[17:22] <wafflejock> expunge: yeah I'm just extracting things from designs then I'm outta there
[17:22] <MortezaE> wafflejock, I restarted it and now it works fine and has nothing to say to terminal for now...
[17:23] <wafflejock> it's just annoying to need it around, Krita does a good job rendering PSDs GIMP has problems with all the layer effects stuff though
[17:23] <wafflejock> MortezaE: yeah hard to say really but try running Nautilus from the terminal the next few times you use it and see if anything crops up, you can also check out your /var/log/syslog or other logs to see if anything crops up
[17:24] <MortezaE> ok i do so. ty
[17:24] <wafflejock> and personally I like Inkscape better than AI, but I'm not a designer so doesn't matter what I like
[17:24] <wafflejock> MortezaE: np good luck
[17:24] <expunge> kinda makes 'designer' a bad word, doesn't it? =P
[17:25] <wafflejock> eh I need em :)
[17:25] <wafflejock> I just think it sucks of Adobe, but I've complained to them already, they don't want to hear from the 1%, there were 10,000 who voted on a petition for it but no budge
[17:38] <Alanbitsch> how to change the system
[17:39] <Alanbitsch> when i in terminal, i need to enter "python3" to open python 3.3
[17:39] <Alanbitsch> how to change it>?
[17:39] <wafflejock> Alanbitsch: not really clear what you want to do... are you looking to add a symbolic link in /usr/bin/ that points to some existing python 3.3 executable file
[17:40] <kostkon> Alanbitsch, simplest thing you could do is create an alias
[17:41] <linxcat> i need to figure out which ports/protocols a certain program is trying to access so i get add these to my firewall exceptions. which is the easiest way to do this?
[17:41] <OerHeks> linxcat, manuals often tell you what ports are used
[17:41] <wafflejock> linxcat: you can use sudo netstat -tulnp
[17:42] <wafflejock> linxcat: it will show all the ports and processes using them
[17:44] <linxcat> waffle: the foreign addresses are all zeros or *.*.*.* when i use your command
[17:46] <wafflejock> linxcat: the -l is telling it to list listening ports so those are listening from any outside connection
[17:47] <wafflejock> the local address lists the IP/port
[17:47] <wafflejock> linxcat: man netstat
[17:47] <wafflejock> if you want the details the flags are briefly described there
[17:47] <linxcat> thanks
[17:47] <wafflejock> np
[17:53] <wafflejock> just noticed listening starts with list....
[17:53] <musher> Just installed ubuntu 14.04, but advert got wrong resolution and its not possible to switch it on surface, windows is to big
[17:54] <musher> *window
[17:54] <wafflejock> musher: you can grab a window usually by holding alt and clicking in the middle of the window, might help to shift it around
[17:55] <wafflejock> musher: is this in a VM or a regular install?
[17:55] <musher> okay dat alt and click thing worked
[17:56] <musher> wait
[17:56] <marvin-hh> I get: plasma-desktop: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libakonadi-kde.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7Akonadi21NotificationMessageV217registerDBusTypesEv
[17:57] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: someone may be able to help here but you may want to try #kubuntu as well
[17:57] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: looks like something is borked in Akonadi which is a central part of all the data in KDE desktop
[17:57] <musher> so i went to monitors, but only got resolution of 640x480
[17:58] <musher> cannot select another one
[17:58] <wafflejock> musher: probably needs graphics drivers...are you in virtual box or regular install?
[17:58] <musher> regular install
[17:58] <treats> my computer has been doing a series of things that make me want to reinstall the os from scratch (without loosing data of corse).  should I boot repair?
[17:59] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: yes, I can read. What I want is someone to start releasing working software for a change.
[17:59] <wafflejock> k can you get a terminal, if so type, lspci -k and look for your vga
[17:59] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I've been happy with Gnome, honestly KDE was fine on my system for a while too
[18:00] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I bought a System76 machine which means they check the hardware and work on custom drivers if need be (though I've never really needed them)
[18:00] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: you work on custom drivers? What does that mean?
[18:01] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: you can't have this insane expectation that software written by a community of people will run on every possible configuration of hardware in the world without error
[18:01] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I don't work on custom drivers the company who makes my laptop makes them for their laptops, just sayin using random hardware you gotta expect a few random results
[18:01] <wafflejock> it's not like Dell slaps Windows into any given set of hardware and expects it to work, there are drivers and there are issues they deal with before shipping it out
[18:03] <wafflejock> treats: need to be a bit more specific on what it's doing that's unexpected
[18:03] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: you actually work for System76?
[18:03] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: nope I work for me on web dev projects
[18:03] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: you mean them?
[18:04] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: since I deploy to AWS running Ubuntu server edition I like to have the same environment locally
[18:04] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: no I mean for me
[18:04] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I wouldn't mind taking credit for their site if I did it though :) it's not a bad one at all
[18:04] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: I have no idea what you are talking about.
[18:04] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: I just work for a small business my brother and I started up
[18:04] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: do you just own a System76 system?>
[18:04] <kostkon> marvin-hh, you are bordering trolling
[18:04] <wafflejock> yeah
[18:05] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: I would like to see a company statement from them that they actually modify any drivers.
[18:05] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: because, I don't think they have the knowhow to do so.
[18:05] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: https://system76.com/support/
[18:05] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: great don't care
[18:05] <kostkon> marvin-hh, i think they offer a system76 driver of sorts
[18:05] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: we're done talking unless you have a legit question I can answer
[18:06] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: you have not provided evidence that they write their own drivers.
[18:06] <kristenbb> how can I share a folder in 14.04 ? i just right click, then 'local network share' then checked 'share this folder', but in the other computer (ubuntu too), although the shared folder does appear, it keeps asking me the password as though I entered it wrong.
[18:06] <marvin-hh> wafflejock: please do not propagate lies.
[18:06] <marvin-hh> kostkon: perhaps for the simplest of technology.
[18:06] <marvin-hh> kostkon: for example for the fan controls, etc.
[18:07] <kostkon> marvin-hh, even so, it's a driver, isn't it
[18:07] <marvin-hh> kostkon: they do not have the capability to guarantee anything about nvidia or amd hardware.
[18:07] <bekks> marvin-hh: Which would fulfill the statement "they develop drivers".
[18:07] <marvin-hh> kostkon: I don't know, could be.
[18:07] <marvin-hh> kostkon: where can I see the details of this 'driver'?
[18:07] <marvin-hh> kostkon: for example, source code.
[18:07] <bekks> marvin-hh: And who are you that you can judge if a company has support capabilities or not?
[18:07] <marvin-hh> bekks: an intelligent individual.
[18:08] <marvin-hh> bekks: who are you?
[18:08] <bazhang> !ot
[18:08] <bazhang> lets get back to support please
[18:08] <kristenbb> how can I share a folder in 14.04 ? i just right click, then 'local network share' then checked 'share this folder', but in the other computer (ubuntu too), although the shared folder does appear, it keeps asking me the password as though I entered it wrong.
[18:09] <wafflejock> marvin-hh: the original reason I brought it up wasn't an Ad for System 76 or so we could discuss their business it was that you have insane expectations and now you've proven to just be insane so really it's taken care of itself
[18:09] <bazhang> wafflejock, lets move on please
[18:09] <OerHeks> kristenbb, try user/pass of the account you just used to make that share
[18:09] <energizer> Hello, how do I convert an avi to mp4
[18:09] <wafflejock> done taking a walk be back in a bit
[18:10] <bazhang> energizer, ffmpeg avconf or handbrake
[18:10] <kristenbb> OerHeks: that's what i did, the same authent window keeps popping as though i entered it wrong, which i did not
[18:10] <Klystron> Energizer, ffmpeg should do it
[18:10] <bazhang> !handbrake | energizer
[18:10] <Klystron> Handbrake for the GUI.  Best option.
[18:11] <bazhang> there's a PPA for it
[18:11] <kristenbb> vlc for the gui, best option, just my 2 cents
[18:11] <Klystron> Does Handbrake take advantage of CUDA or anything like that?
[18:11] <bazhang> not sure
[18:12] <ray1> hi. I can't get usbhid to set mousepoll=2, not through sys/modules or through grub kernel cmdline
[18:12] <energizer> ok trying those
[18:13] <bazhang> energizer, handbrake is the gui one
[18:13] <Klystron> Be sure to install the restricted extras package too.
[18:14] <bazhang> !find x264
[18:14] <bazhang> as well as that^
[18:14] <kristenbb> OerHeks: so if the password is not working, what could be wrong ? how to check that the domain is correct ?
[18:14] <Klystron> what does that do?  the lib that is?
[18:14] <bazhang> h264 support
[18:15] <plinio_> t
[18:15] <Klystron> it's not already there when you get handbrake?
[18:15] <OerHeks> kristenbb, maybe it is in the client, is that a windows machine?
[18:15] <bazhang> the one from their site? or the PPA
[18:16] <Klystron> I'm using bunt 14.04 and Hexchat baz
[18:17] <bazhang> hows that connected to your question about handbrake
[18:18] <OerHeks> kristenbb, this page might be any help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!
[18:18] <OerHeks> ugly-url
[18:18] <bazhang> hugey url
[18:19] <OerHeks> space in names, as bad as the invention of pop-ups
[18:19] <bazhang> its a trap
[18:19] <Klystron> that's why it's cool to substitute %20 for spaces
[18:20] <bazhang> Klystron, for what energize r is trying to do, it probably doesnt matter, but there are more use cases than avi to mp4, so it's best to have more options
[18:20] <grennich> Did something recently happen with the repos? All of by ubuntu installs are failing with E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages  or   W: Failed to fetch http://h.ubuntu.repo.cjdns.ca/dists/trusty/InRelease
[18:20] <musher> i only can choose resolution 640x480; how can i add 1024x768?
[18:20] <grennich> removing /var/lib/apt/lists/* does not solve issue
[18:20] <grennich> disregard that cjdns line sorry
[18:20] <bazhang> musher with arandr?
[18:21] <energizer> handbrake is crashing, trying to use ffmpeg or avconv.
[18:21] <energizer> Tried "ffmpeg -i file.avi out.mp4" but i got "The encoder 'aac' is experimental but experimental codecs are not enabled, add '-strict -2' if you want to use it."
[18:21] <Klystron> Yeah.  I just jumps on Synaptic to see what turned up for x264 and I see I already have the lib264-142 installed.
[18:21] <wafflejock> musher: need info about your graphics card/chipset/driver, lspci -k
[18:21] <bazhang> energizer, ffmpeg will need much more than that
[18:22] <energizer> what about avconv?
[18:22] <bazhang> energizer, where did you install handbrake from
[18:22] <energizer> apt
[18:22] <bazhang> !info handbrake
[18:23] <wafflejock> !pastebinit > musher
[18:23] <ray1> hi can anyone help me with some usbhid mousepolling issues
[18:23] <bazhang> energizer, did you install libfaac0?
[18:24] <energizer> bazhang: yes
[18:24] <Klystron> !info x264
[18:24] <bazhang> energizer, what preset are you using
[18:25] <Pandatomik> Hello guys, i'm currently running the laest version of ubuntu and i'm encountering a problem when using steam via wine, sometimes the computer reboots by itself and does not even provide the location of the log or anything
[18:25] <bazhang> Pandatomik, checked the appdb?
[18:25] <bazhang> !appdb | Pandatomik
[18:26] <Pandatomik> Ok ty for the redirection to winehq i'll go check there
[18:26] <energizer> bazhang: not sure. handbrake crashes as soon as i source a file
[18:27] <Dramors> Hey people, I wanna install pantheon on ubuntu. I found these instructions here http://www.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/283pq0/possible_to_install_pantheon_desktop_in_ubuntu/ci7jfdd and I wanted to ask if those still apply.
[18:27] <Dramors> Also some clarification on "Wouldn't recommend using this as your productive system ;) There are too many flaws yet to be fixed (better use the stable ppa to avoid that; can't tell you about that, because I haven't tried this with Ubuntu 14.04 yet...)" Are those flaws still present? If so, can I use the stable ppa?
[18:27] <Dramors> I asked in #elementary but no response in 2 hours so I thought I'd try here
[18:28] <tony_> anybody know of youtubelou?
[18:29] <OerHeks> Dramors, we can't tell, as we do not support elementary
[18:29] <ubunt> how to configure xzgv for to run xzgv in virtualterminal?
[18:30] <Dramors> OerHeks: You speak for all as if you are able to know what sort of knowledge each holds. Maybe someone knows and can provide me with a response. The ppa's are available and someone may be using them
[18:30] <OerHeks> !ppa
[18:31] <bazhang> Dramors, same thing, contact the PPA maintainer
[18:31] <OerHeks> Dramors, in basic, if you trust that ppa it is oke, we have no influence or whatsoever
[18:32] <OerHeks> Dramors, try polling in #elementary
[18:32] <Dramors> Right. So this channel is only for "in the official repos" discussion then?
[18:33] <bazhang> Dramors, yep
[18:33] <Dramors> Gotcha
[18:33] <grennich> Any solution for this?: Reading package lists... Error!
[18:33] <grennich> E: Problem parsing dependency Depends
[18:33] <grennich> E: Error occurred while processing mywpell-fa (NewVersion2)
[18:33] <grennich> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages
[18:33] <grennich> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[18:33] <grennich> oops ment to paste
[18:33] <grennich> http://pastie.org/9499345
[18:33] <grennich> removing /var/lib/apt/lists/* does not work
[18:34] <reversiblean> I get "Clocksource tsc unstable (delta =<PHONE_NUMBER>45 ns)" error frequently and it cause my desktop to freeze.
[18:34] <OerHeks> grennich, go into softwaresources, change mirror?
[18:36] <reversiblean> This is happening since a long time. I would appreciate if anyone could help.
[18:37] <OerHeks> reversiblean, did you use special settings in your bios CPU/preq or memory/freq ?
[18:38] <jody> freedom
[18:39] <reversiblean> I really can't remember. My logs also shows
[18:39] <reversiblean> ACPI Exception: AE_NOT_FOUND, While evaluating Sleep State [\_S2_] (20131115/hwxface-580)
[18:39] <reversiblean> ACPI BIOS Error (bug): \_SB_.PCI0.USB0._PSW: Object (Integer) must be a control method with 1 arguments (20131115/nsarguments-147)
[18:39] <jody> y can't i get the burn effect
[18:40] <Klystron> reverse, you might go into BIOS and switch to (or away from) the high resolution clock mode.
[18:40] <Klystron> And see if that makes any difference.
[18:41] <OerHeks> jody,  that plugin is part of compiz-plugins or compizplugins-extra
[18:41] <Klystron> Also, if you are doing any overcloclocking, 1st thing is to use stock settings.
[18:41] <tony_> anyone here using ubuntu 14.10
[18:42] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that tony_
[18:42] <OerHeks> tony_, no, support for 14.10 is in #ubuntu+1
[18:42] <dunderburken> hi, what NAS to go for? ReadyNAS, Asustor, Synology or WD My Cloud? I would like to have support for Bittorrent Sync, rsync and media-sharing. Any idea, anyone?
[18:42] <OerHeks> * untill release
[18:42] <Algebr> is it well known that 14.04 eats up a lot of memory?
[18:42] <Klystron> Heard good things about freeNAS
[18:43] <Klystron> There is also owncloud
[18:43] <Pryda> Algebr remove ubuntu
[18:43] <tony_> thank you
[18:43] <Algebr> Pryda: Right, there is that option. I'm just surpised at how resource hungry ubunut is.
[18:43] <OerHeks> dunderburken, freenas, or openmediavault would be my choise
[18:43] <reversiblean> Klystron: no I'm not. BTW I unplugged and plugged back my front panel headers. Not sure if i plugged to correct pinsr.
[18:44] <reversiblean> *pins
[18:44] <wafflejock> Algebr: it's pretty heavy in terms of DEs I think that's well known among those who care
[18:44] <Algebr> wafflejock: What is DEs?
[18:44] <wafflejock> Algebr: sorry desktop environments
[18:45] <Algebr> ah, I'm coming from arch using xfce...
[18:45] <wafflejock> Algebr: yeah that's at the light end
[18:45] <wafflejock> Algebr: I think LXDE is the lightest
[18:45] <wafflejock> not sure though
[18:45] <yz3pD> icewm
[18:45] <yz3pD> openbox
[18:45] <yz3pD> many light ones
[18:45] <Pryda> twm
[18:45] <Algebr> I just see it using up so much system memory and none of the swap.
[18:46] <OerHeks> Algebr, is that bad?
[18:46] <trijntje> Algebr: thats good, swap is slow
[18:46] <k1l> Algebr: ? since swap is way more slower its hjust right to use ram first
[18:46] <wafflejock> agree with statements/questions here
[18:46] <wafflejock> ^^
[18:46] <Algebr> Right, I guess its a good thing. Just have 16gb and seeing 1.6 gb being used up on just firefox/emacs is concerning
[18:46] <dunderburken> OerHeks, looked at freenas, but then you need to assembly the NAS hardware by you own?
[18:46] <OerHeks> cpu 1005 is also not bad
[18:46] <OerHeks> 100%
[18:47] <wafflejock> Algebr: what are you gonna use all that RAM for anyhow?
[18:47] <OerHeks> dunderburken, that is the basic of linux, yes.
[18:47] <Alanbitsch_> python-es
[18:47] <trijntje> Algebr: linux uses RAM to cache every disk file you read, so  RAM usage might seem a lot higher than it actually is
[18:47] <Algebr> wafflejock: hmm, big pandas dataframes?
[18:47] <Klystron> reversible, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Precision_Event_Timer
[18:48] <Klystron> your BIOS should have a setting to use it or not.
[18:48] <OerHeks> take a desktop or build a headless server, or buy one.  Asustor, Synology or WD My Cloud i am not sure they can run linux
[18:48] <Klystron> if it is in use, try switching it off, or if off, turn it on.
[18:49] <energizer> bazhang: fyi avconv took care of it. thanks for your help. "avconv -i file.avi -strict -2 episode8.mp4"
[18:49] <wafflejock> Algebr: yeah if it's a server and you want to keep resources to a minimum then Unity probably isn't the way to go
[18:50] <bazhang> energizer, great news
[18:50] <wafflejock> Algebr: Firefox and/or Chrome (modern web browsers) can eat up a lot of RAM on their own too though
[18:51] <Algebr> wafflejock: thanks
[18:52] <grennich> apt-get update:    Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:52] <grennich> lol
[18:52] <energizer> grennich: lol
[18:53] <Klystron> lxde is lightweight
[18:53] <popey> grennich: when did that start?
[18:53] <wafflejock> Algebr: np, just checked my resources ~500MB for Gnome-shell ~500MB for thunderbird ~200MB for Chrome and just one tab open
[18:54] <grennich> popey: after i changed sources but just %s/us.//g  in sources.list
[18:54] <grennich> updated, then this
[18:54] <grennich> when i ran update again
[18:54] <grennich> after the upgrade
[18:54] <grennich> by just*
[18:54] <alexander> _Alexander__
[18:56] <wafflejock> Algebr: ah actually more than that for chrome overlooked the extra processes at first, there are a couple more looks like add at least 300MB more to the chrome RAM consumption
[18:57] <slowlearn11> Hello, I have a question I don't  know how to google : what is the difference between "cat *" and "cat ./*" ? I am doing a challenge and the second one works but not the first (also, how to research info on this?)
[18:58] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: please elaborate what happens, "works" is not a very detailed description.
[18:58] <grennich> let me rephrase that. I changed sources because i could not even update before by %s/us.//g in sources.list. I updated and upgraded what seemed like successfully, then I went to run an update again and now: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:59] <grennich> I'm scared to reboot too because this is my kerberos server and I can't afford it not working
[18:59] <Klystron> slow, I don't see a difference
[18:59] <slowlearn11> SwedeMike: the challenge (http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/bandit3.html) is to read a file that has a space in it. doing cat thefile shows nothing at all, but cat ./thefile works
[19:00] <slowlearn11> that is it prints the content
[19:00] <Klystron> asterisk means match all and is assumed in the current working directory.  ./ explicitly means current directory
[19:01] <onizu> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.01 on my netbook alongside win8 , but ubuntu does not detect the existing partitions and shows the entire disk as freespace.
[19:01] <onizu> Please tell how to install in the partition that i have allocated for ubuntu?
[19:01] <SchrodingersScat> slowlearn11: I can't duplicate that behavior on my machine, I created a file with a space in the name and the * still globs it fine.
[19:02] <Algebr> wafflejock: 500 mb just for gnome-shell!?
[19:02] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: do "find . -name '*spaces*' -print0" and tell me what it dinds.
[19:02] <slowlearn11> SchrodingersScat:  the file on that server is weird. I do not know how to duplicate it, However it is easy to connect to the server to duplicate. Is it ok to give the challenge's password ?
[19:02] <Algebr> That doesn't sound...crazy?
[19:02] <SwedeMike> finds
[19:04] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | slowlearn11
[19:04] <slowlearn11> no result SwedeMike
[19:04] <SchrodingersScat> well, this is ubuntu support, not overthewire.org support
[19:04] <SwedeMike> I just created a file called '  spaces  ' and doing 'cat *spaces*' shows the contents of that file just fine
[19:05] <slowlearn11> but it's on ubuntu and it's a general question ?
[19:05] <slowlearn11> anyhow, I'll treat it as a bug, thanks !
[19:05] <onizu> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.01 on my netbook alongside win8 , but ubuntu does not detect the existing partitions and shows the entire disk as freespace.
[19:06] <onizu> can anyone please tell me what's wrong?
[19:07] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: the problem is that the filename is precedded by a -
[19:07] <slowlearn11> SwedeMike: what does that change ?
[19:07] <Klystron> that is the switch character
[19:08] <Klystron> probably need to escape it
[19:08] <abrakadd> hello world
[19:08] <makara> onizu: maybe get a gparted boot cd and partition the disk before installing ubuntu
[19:08] <Klystron> we are the world
[19:09] <makara> onizu: or run ubuntu from cd and run gparted
[19:09] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: cat doesn't seem to honor -- to say "end of switches", so another method is needed
[19:09] <bekks> command -opt1 -opt2 -- -filename-with-a-leading-minus-charachter
[19:09] <onizu> makara, no cd drive, running bootable usb. partition created under win8
[19:09] <loganrun> does anyone know how to refresh the grub installation i.e. rewrite the boot sector or whatever. I have a raid array setup so I don't know per se what device or drive to that it was installed to
[19:09] <onizu> makara: ubuntu boots from usb, but during installation does not detect existing partitions. though the existing partitions are shown on the desktop
[19:10] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Works fine for me (cat with --)
[19:10] <leonardo_> !list
[19:11] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: go to http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/bandit0.html and see if you can get it working then.
[19:11] <loganrun> tried grub-install, but that asked me for a device
[19:11] <slowlearn11> so how do I properly escape this ? for f in *; do  cat $f; done
[19:12] <amanthakur> Hi guys, i am about to install ubuntu 14 64 bit on my laptop. I have windows 8 already installed in my laptop. I want to make a dual boot in my laptop. I was reading about UEFI. And i am confused how to install properly to boot both the OSes. Can anyone help me with it?
[19:12] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: for f in *; do cat "$f"; done
[19:12] <onizu> hi amanthakur
[19:12] <slowlearn11> iceroot_:  does not work
[19:12] <amanthakur> onizu, hi
[19:12] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: cat * would be the same as your for loop
[19:12] <onizu> amanthakur: just boot and go through installation?
[19:12] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: "does not work" is bad description
[19:13] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: It is exactly the same result as cat *, that is it enters cat as if no file were provided
[19:14] <amanthakur> onizu, i have followed the same procedure till now. But haven't installed ubuntu for over 2 years now. So was worried, since many users have faced problems with UEFI hardware.
[19:14] <makara> loganrun: update-grub?
[19:14] <onizu> amanthakur: you're from india, right? you can join #ubuntu-in
[19:15] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: for i in *; do cat "$i"; done   works fine here
[19:15] <amanthakur> onizu, yes, but i thnk i can get a better support here  because there are so many volunteers in this channel and i have my comm skills :)
[19:16] <onizu> amanthakur: sure
[19:16] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: if even "cat *" is failing, there is another issue
[19:16] <slowlearn11> iceroot_:  I swear it does not, is it just me ? the file name is '-'
[19:17] <sajan> wafflejock,
[19:17] <makara> anyone know of a reliable semantic file system?
[19:17] <SchrodingersScat> slowlearn11: for i in *; do cat -- "$i" ; done
[19:17] <sajan> is there any app to measure the temperature of system
[19:18] <SwedeMike> slowlearn11: no, the filename is more than -, it's -<space> with one or more spaces. I don't know why -- doesn't work, and yes, you're right, ./-* works, but not cat -- -*
[19:18] <trijntje> sajan: xsensors
[19:18] <bazhang> !sensors | sajan
[19:18] <SwedeMike> sajan: install lmsensors or equivalent.
[19:19] <SchrodingersScat> cat -- * and cat -- -* works for me
[19:19] <slowlearn11> SwedeMike: I found the name by doing for f in *; do     printf -- '%s\n' "'$f'"; done , so this is wrong too ?
[19:19] <sajan> SwedeMike, so i install from software centre or terminal
[19:19] <onizu> SchrodingersScat: are you adam??
[19:19] <SchrodingersScat> onizu: no.
[19:19] <onizu> SchrodingersScat: are you the guy from chatjunkies? :D
[19:19] <onizu> ok )
[19:19] <onizu> had a friend with this nick
[19:21] <SwedeMike> sajan: doesn't matter.
[19:21] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: That's because it's - and that means stdin
[19:22] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Use the full path with -- and it works
[19:22] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Errr, -- isn't even needed at that point.
[19:22] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: if the file is called "-" then imagine what is handed over to cat
[19:23] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: dont name files with "-"
[19:23] <SchrodingersScat> it's homework
[19:23] <slowlearn11> I did not, it's a tutorial
[19:24] <slowlearn11> I guess I understood now anyway, cat just didn't receive the file for some reason
[19:24] <slowlearn11> thank you all
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: mv \- something_usefull
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: cat is receiving file names
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: and your filename is called "-"
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: so the command will be "cat -"
[19:25] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: and that can not work
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: wouldnt you need to escape the character?
[19:26] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: there was something to tell bash commands that everything after this string is not a paramter anymore but i can not remember what it was
[19:26] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: what is the way to properly tell cat to get the file without naming it ?
[19:26] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: even cat \- is failing
[19:26] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: ?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: try a double slash, may work
[19:26] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: you ALWAYS have to give cat the filename
[19:27] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: but he is searching for a generic way "for a in *"
[19:27] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: imo there was something like command -- foo
[19:27] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: so foo is never a parameter, but "cat -- -" is not working
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: try: mv \\- new
[19:29] <slowlearn11> surely there is a way to say something like "cat ($f)" (not real syntax, invented) to get the file to go through and be read ?
[19:29] <iceroot_> ActionParsnip: yeah the mv is also working with \- foo  but not cat, that is what i was walking about, sorry
[19:29] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: sure, for a in *;do cat "$a"; done
[19:30] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: never ever call a file "-"
[19:30] <SchrodingersScat> cat -- * already works for me, I don't see the issue
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: could pipe it to: tee /dev/null | grep
[19:30] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: sure, for a in *;do cat -- "$a"; done
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> iceroot_: as it wil also output to stdoutn:-)
[19:31] <slowlearn11> neither for a in *;do cat "$a"; done nor cat -- * work
[19:31] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: for a in *;do cat -- "$a"; done either
[19:32] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: what is wrong about renaming "-" to something usefull?
[19:32] <slowlearn11> I have no writing priviledge
[19:32] <SchrodingersScat> slowlearn11: cat /etc/issue
[19:32] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: are you using bash?
[19:32] <bennie> .
[19:32] <slowlearn11> SchrodingersScat: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[19:33] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: how to check ?
[19:34] <iceroot_> slowlearn11: echo $SHELL
[19:34] <slowlearn11> iceroot_: yes it's bash
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> slowlearn11: for a in *; do tee $a /dev/null | grep something; done
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Etc
[19:34] <slowlearn11> ActionParsnip:  nope
[19:34] <slowlearn11> exactly the same
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> slowlearn11: gah, tee should spit out to the terminal too. Boo. Try asking in #bash too
[19:35] <Amoz> slowlearn11, doesnt "./${f}" work?
[19:36] <Amoz> I haven't followed the discussion Fyi.
[19:36] <trism> slowlearn11: the problem with a file named - and cat is this part of the manpage: With no FILE, or when FILE is -, read standard input.
[19:38] <tortib> Hi everyone
[19:38] <tortib> I'm running the following command: tar zcvpf etc.tgz --exclude='/etc/ssh/' --exclude='/etc/X11' --exclude='/etc/network/interfaces/' --exclude='/etc/mtab' --exclude='/etc/fstab' --exclude='/etc/init.d/' /etc/
[19:38] <tortib> but it isn't excluding the exclusions from the tarball
[19:38] <Amoz> tortib, they need to be a pattern, like regex, I believ
[19:39] <tortib> oh so /etc/init.d/* ?
[19:39] <Amoz> tortib, / is a special character in regex
[19:39] <Amoz> try escaping it
[19:39] <Amoz> '\/etc\/file'
[19:39] <tortib> k
[19:40] <trevor_> i need help
[19:40] <Amoz> trevor_, ask away
[19:40] <tortib> Amoz: that didn't do it (I thought / was a special character for PERL regular expressions only, not POSIX).
[19:41] <trevor_> my compiz desktop cube quit working it was working last night but when i powered on today it wasn't working
[19:41] <trevor_> can someone help me?
[19:42] <trevor_> hello
[19:42] <popey> !ask | trevor_
[19:42] <sergey__> wow
[19:43] <trevor_> compiz desktop cube has stopped working on my pc it was working lastnight before i powered off my computer
[19:43] <trevor_> same with the animations
[19:43] <Amoz> trevor_, try to describe your problem in detail
[19:44] <sergey__> I can't go to skype
[19:44] <Amoz> trevor_, what do you see? What happens when you boot it, etc
[19:45] <trevor_> nothing happens it if i set the transparency up on the cube on the desktop there is no cube there
[19:45] <trevor_> its like the plugin says its installed but its not
[19:45] <prohobo> hey uh... whenever i boot ubuntu i get some kind of error saying "unkown chipset"
[19:46] <prohobo> and it fails to mount both my SSD and my HDD
[19:47] <trevor_> Wobbly windows effects still work and everything else but desktop cube work work...
[19:47] <yofun> Why am I unable to increase /dev/sda8? http://oi59.tinypic.com/z4xt3.jpg
[19:48] <prohobo> should i just follow the suggestions it gives me on the "failed to mount" error?
[19:49] <yofun> Why am I unable to increase /dev/sda8? http://oi59.tinypic.com/z4xt3.jpg
[19:50] <rww> yofun: because there's no unallocated space before or after it...
[19:50] <yofun> rww:  how can I fix the issue?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> yofun: is sda8 unmounted?
[19:50] <rww> by creating unallocated space before or after it
[19:51] <yofun> No, im on a live disk.
[19:51] <yofun> live disk to increase sda8
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> yofun: run: mount | grep sda8 ,do you get any output?
[19:51] <yofun> no output
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> yofun: if you mount it then unmount it, does it help?
[19:52] <rww> Mounting doesn't have anything to do with the fact that there isn't any unallocated space for yofun to resize their partition into.
[19:52] <yofun> ActionParsnip: cant seem to mount it via gparted.
[19:53] <yofun> Yea, I was thinking how is this related.
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> yofun: use terminal then, or nautilus....
[19:53] <yofun> how do I move the space around? si I can increase sda8
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> rww: oic
[19:53] <rww> yofun: do you know what's on /dev/sda9?
[19:54] <yofun> I do not.
[19:54] <yofun> how can I mount it and look?
[19:54] <rww> would probably be a good idea to find out, and then either delete it or move it to the end of that unallocated space after it
[19:55] <rww> then you'll have about 87GB right after /dev/sda8, and can resize
[19:55] <rww> 89**
[19:55] <yofun> how do I mount sda9?
[19:55] <expunge> yofun: sudo mount /dev/sda9 /path/of/choice
[19:56] <yofun> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda9 sda9
[19:56] <yofun> mount: mount point sda9 does not exist
[19:56] <BillyBob73> Afternoon all. Newb here problem with laptop running Ubuntu 14(latest stable) info to come on tablet....
[19:56] <yofun> It seems to be a unkown table
[19:56] <rww> that means the mount point you're trying to mount to doesn't exist
[19:56] <rww> it needs to be a directory that exists...
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: what is the issue?
[19:56] <yofun> oh
[19:57] <BillyBob73> Got the install done yesterday added some stuff chrome heart got Wi-Fi going etc
[19:57] <yofun> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[19:57] <rww> then it doesn't know what it is either.
[19:57] <rww> which makes sense, since gparted didn't
[19:57] <yofun> Yep -_- so anyway to find out what it is?
[19:58] <yofun> I think it might be something winodws 8 related?
[19:58] <x_root> what's the problem yofun?
[19:58] <expunge> yofun: where's this partition from?
[19:58] <BillyBob73> Irma a presario c500.  Closed lid it went to hibernate yesterday couldn't wake it ended up hard power rest
[19:58] <sillopotatis1> Hey
[19:58] <expunge> hi sillo
[19:58] <yofun> http://oi59.tinypic.com/z4xt3.jpg
[19:58] <sillopotatis1> Im trying to learn about SSH servers
[19:59] <expunge> sillopotatis1: cool
[19:59] <yofun> im trying to increase sda8, but I have to find out what sda9 is
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: is the OS fully updated?
[19:59] <sillopotatis1> where do I find beginner info?
[19:59] <BillyBob73> Sorry on tablet.   Anyway i used it powered down all good.   Used it today and lid got sit opened it and it wouldn't wake again
[19:59] <BillyBob73> Action it was yes
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: they are simple creatures but offer a lot of functionality, what do you want to do?
[19:59] <expunge> yofun: looks like nothing at all
[20:00] <napalm_> zo aug 24 22:00:02 CEST 2014
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: what is the output of: free -m ,use a pastebin like http://pastie.org to host the output
[20:00] <sillopotatis1> I want to see whats possible
[20:00] <sillopotatis1> First I want control of the server, like a VM
[20:01] <BillyBob73> So i hard power reset again this yum one it passes boot loader i get garbled screen then subsequent tries give a black screen with LeFT side of white matrix like letter like not full screen
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: tunneling (like a proxy). Sftp server, x forwarding (run apps like a Citrix server)
[20:01] <Guest93020> hi all, anyone here depending on Google Drive and using InSync (or another alternative) to be able to use it on a linux client?
[20:01] <BillyBob73> I have grub up now in edit mode
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: hard poweroffs arent good for computers.
[20:02] <sillopotatis1> actionparsnip: hmm, can I use that to log onto the servers desktop remotely?
[20:02] <OerHeks> !info grive
[20:03] <expunge> Guest93020: why do you ask
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: you can run GUI apps and they wil stick to the client system
[20:03] <test0> 14.04 lts livedisk, need to intall wine from binary (deb), no internet
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: if you make an ssh tunnel you can use it to secure vnc
[20:03] <BillyBob73> Yeah. I have c corrupted something but no idea where to start, betting x  but I'm too newb to know loll. Almost need hand holding
[20:03] <Guest93020> Grive has it's limitations (not syncing correctly, not syncing .gdoc or gsheet files
[20:03] <test0> what do i get from http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/binary/?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: you
[20:04] <Guest93020> and insync says it does those things (costs 15 dollars)
[20:04] <Guest93020> using Grive atm
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: you'll find there is a sleeker solution to what you want to do than getting the full desktop
[20:04] <x_root> someone know how to fix the wallpaper? http://i.imgur.com/u2JmGu3.png
[20:04] <sillopotatis1> actionparsnip: GUI apps like a torrent client and a file browser?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Sil
[20:04] <x_root> is the only thing missing.. but.. why?
[20:04] <OerHeks> Guest93020, maybe this old howto works.. didn't know insync is paid stuff
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: torrent clients like transmission have web interfaces, you dont need a full desktop for that
[20:04] <OerHeks> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/insync-repository-available-for-ubuntu.html
[20:05] <Guest93020> tnx OerHeks oldwitch :)
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: sftp will allow you to copy files to an from the system securely
[20:05] <expunge> Guest93020: https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: this is why I always ask the requirements.  People think hey need hthe full desktop, they usual
[20:06] <sillopotatis1> Smart
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: usually don't
[20:06] <OerHeks> Guest93020, what are those limitations?
[20:06] <Guest93020> Auto Sync only detects changes in your local Google Drive files and folders.
[20:06] <Guest93020> Symbolic links are not supported
[20:06] <Guest93020> Downloading Google Documents is not yet possible.
[20:06] <sillopotatis1> thanks for the help, im going to read up on it
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> sillopotatis1: I manage torrents using transdrone, it connects to the web UI so you can add and remove etc torrents on the server
[20:07] <BillyBob73> Iirc ctrl alt f1 should give me a terminal right ¿
[20:08] <trism> BillyBob73: ctrl+alt+t
[20:08] <BillyBob73> Ran a memtest and rebooting
[20:08] <trism> BillyBob73: oh wait I know what you mean, nm, you're right
[20:10] <BillyBob73> Well no garbled screen but it a black and doing nothing now no terminal.  I'm thinking a fresh install
[20:10] <SchrodingersScat> Guest93020: I just started syncing my gdrive using owncloud
[20:11] <Guest93020> SchrodingersScat: tnx for the tip, too bad i need to pay for each owncloud installation on my nas :(
[20:11] <SchrodingersScat> ok
[20:11] <Guest93020> it's not much, but i need to pay for every new version; https://rnxtras.com/addons/owncloud-7-readynas-4-x86
[20:12] <sajan> wafflejock,
[20:14] <Amoz> tortib, did you solve it? It will only work for files, at least it worked for fstab when I did tar --exclude='\/etc\/fstab' -zcf test.tgz /etc
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest93020: how is this Ubuntu related?
[20:15] <samthewildone> how do I partition a USB for FAT32 on ubuntu ?
[20:15] <Guest93020> i'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and the Grive-package. Was wondering if someone else had switched to another tool too?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: use gparted
[20:16] <BillyBob73> Could someone pastie a good grub cfg for 14 stable
[20:16] <samthewildone> ActionParsnip, no luck
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: or fdisk in cli
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: what is "14 stable"
[20:17] <havarka> BillyBob73, try grub customizer
[20:17] <BillyBob73> Ubuntu 14 stable
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: it doesnt exist
[20:17] <samthewildone> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/A4AD8JH7
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: ubuntu 14.04 exists, is that what you mean?
[20:17] <BillyBob73> I wanna make sure my boy loader cf ain't the boy problem
[20:18] <BillyBob73> Action.  Yes
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: ok, then run: sudo umount /dev/sdb1; sudo mk2fs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[20:18] <KM0201> help
[20:18] <KM0201> oops
[20:18] <KM0201> sorry
[20:18] <x_root> someone know how can i fix this? http://i.imgur.com/u2JmGu3.png
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: then why not say hat, rather than naming something that simply doesnt exist?
[20:19] <havarka> ActionParsnip, whats the issue?
[20:19] <theadmin> x_root: Fix what?
[20:19] <m3n3chm0> hello, anyone uses sopcast-player on 14.04, since I've upgraded to 14.04 sopcast-player sound no work
[20:19] <x_root> the wallpaper "missing"
[20:19] <BillyBob73> Sorry I'm newb it said stable when i DL'd it
[20:20] <samthewildone> samthewildone@Olympus:~$ sudo mk2fs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[20:20] <samthewildone> sudo: mk2fs.vfat: command not found
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: yes but the site says Ubuntu 14.04 not Ubuntu 14
[20:20] <Guest93020> SchrodingersScat: can you point me on my way to a walkthrough of your setup? or a good description. I wanna know how it works before buying Owncloud or Insync
[20:20] <havarka> x_root, click on desktop on desktop preferences?!
[20:20] <theadmin> samthewildone: mkfs, not mk2fs
[20:20] <BillyBob73> My fault it is 14.04
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: so being a "newb" isnt a factor here, its simple reading which you are clearly ok at
[20:20] <x_root> right click don't work there havarka..
[20:21] <samthewildone> then what do I do
[20:21] <theadmin> x_root: I think Nautilus handles the desktop
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> x_root: what is the output pf: cat /etc/issue
[20:21] <theadmin> x_root: So start that
[20:21] <havarka> x_root, do you want icons as well?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: omgubuntu have a guide called "sticking it to grub", you can chroot to the installed OS from LiveCD and fix grub
[20:22] <ubunt> I install xzgv and output a error (xzgv:2483): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[20:22] <x_root> no.. just the wallpaper.. when i lock, is there.. in gnome, is there as well.. but in unity or anything related.. no.. =/
[20:22] <ubunt> can you help me?
[20:22] <tortib> Amoz: I figured out the tar issue, it was the trailing slash -.-
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> ubunt: are you running on a server OS (no desktop)?
[20:22] <x_root> ActionParsnip, cat /etc/issue
[20:22] <x_root> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[20:22] <samthewildone> ActionParsnip, I did the command now what do I do ?
[20:22] <BillyBob73> Action i well run the dvd bbiaf
[20:23] <havarka> x_root: sudo apt-get install nitrogen
[20:23] <ubunt> yes
[20:23] <SchrodingersScat> Guest93020: can install owncloud on just about any linux distro, here's the bit about google drive: http://doc.owncloud.org/server/7.0/user_manual/external_storage/google_drive.html
[20:23] <ubunt> in ubuntu server
[20:23] <Raff> I'm going to install ubuntu 14.04 and I want to install Xen Hypervisor after, I have an SSD 120Gb and a HDD 1Tb, how should be the partitioning method?
[20:23] <havarka> x_root, then run it, it should work
[20:23] <theadmin> ubunt: Then you can't use graphical apps...
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: you have now fomatted he USB to FAT32.
[20:23] <theadmin> ubunt: Unless you install a desktop, that is.
[20:23] <ubunt> is not posible to see a pictures from command lines?
[20:23] <x_root> sudo apt-get install nitrogen
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> ubunt: if the application needs a GUI you will need a desktop
[20:24] <x_root> oops.. misplaced the terminal :P
[20:24] <theadmin> ubunt: You can view images from the terminal, I can't quite recall what app does it though
[20:24] <BillyBob73> Irma running memtest still, gonna let it finish
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ubunt: you could connect via SSH from another Pc with an X server and it will show
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> Guest93020: I wouldn't have expected it to be a paid app for your nas, so not sure what to recommend
[20:24] <OerHeks> ubunt xzgv  is not a terminal app
[20:25] <Guest93020> SchrodingersScat: tnx anyway for your help :-), i really dont know what to do, gonna check out the grive-commands instead of the Gui to find out why it does not sync that well
[20:25] <ubunt> there aren't programs to run in command line for see pictures?
[20:25] <lang> ubunt: yes
[20:25] <ubunt> how?
[20:25] <lang> ubunt: fbi fx. can show the via framebuffer
[20:25] <OerHeks> !info caca-utils
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Raff: 120Gb as / with /var and /home on the platter based drive.
[20:26] <theadmin> ubunt: There are, fbi for example
[20:26] <lang> 'links' show images on webpages via framebuffer
[20:26] <ubunt> but caca-utils  view in image-ascii
[20:26] <OerHeks> cacaview /PATH/TO/image.jpg   or mplayer -vo caca /PATH/TO/video.mpg
[20:26] <theadmin> ubunt: Use fbi, it will show the image properly
[20:27] <OerHeks> but you didn't ask for video in terminal, sorry
[20:27] <samthewildone> ActionParsnip, thank you
[20:27] <ubunt> with fbi i can to view a picture?
[20:28] <lang> ubunt: yes.  apt-cache show fbi
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> samthewildone: easy stuff dude
[20:28] <BillyBob73> OK biting to dvd to run the live side
[20:29] <BillyBob73> Ugh
[20:29] <mbwe> i was wondering if its possible with uck (ubuntu customize kit) to install custom compiled binaries?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> BillyBob73: don't you have the media you installed with?
[20:29] <theadmin> mbwe: Yes, just open a customisation terminal and do whatever you want with the distro
[20:30] <BillyBob73> It's something else getting same black screen with about to characters in white scrolling constantly now
[20:30] <BillyBob73> Same c crap i got when biting from hd
[20:32] <BillyBob73> Shutdown hard unplugged and pulled battery....
[20:34] <BillyBob73> Wow.   That worked, battery pull
[20:36] <BillyBob73> Time to research the sleep/suspend/resume and only do a shutdown
[20:36] <Bashing-om> BillyBob73: Large enough 'swap' partition ?
[20:37] <BillyBob73> I keep getting the login keyring was not unlocked whee an you logged in to the computer as a single user during install i set to auto login
[20:38] <BillyBob73> Bashing. No idea. I did a default install from 14.04 DVD
[20:38] <wafflejock> BillyBob73: even though you auto-login the keyring has it's own password too
[20:39] <BillyBob73> Same seems to work
[20:39] <wafflejock> BillyBob73: you must have set it to be the same the first time it asked to create the keyrign
[20:39] <hesco> Running: update-locale LANG=en_US.utf8 did not change the output of locale.  Am I missing something here?
[20:39] <wafflejock> keyring*
[20:40] <tortib> Hello, can someone help me with this problem I'm having while installing cacti?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8134395/
[20:40] <Bashing-om> BillyBob73: Keyring issue, can not help with .. I am not a proponent of circumventing security by using "autologin" .
[20:40] <BillyBob73> I don't recall the login ring during install
[20:40] <wafflejock> BillyBob73: I think it asks on first boot when it first tries to use the keyring not during install
[20:40] <BillyBob73> Not a problem really
[20:41] <wafflejock> yeah I just deal with it.. have to type my password once is not a huge deal, think it needs it for the wifi connection on boot, otherwise usually something soon after boot
[20:42] <tortib> It appears it installed fine but I've never seen this error before
[20:42] <BillyBob73> Idk. Ihad a problem with the Wi-Fi in the presario c500 but fixed it relatively easy with some research
[20:44] <user-pc__> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:45] <Bashing-om> tortib: from: apt-cache show cacti -> "This package requires a functional MySQL database server" . Do you meet this criteria ?
[20:45] <tortib> Bashing-om: I install mysql-server before hand
[20:45] <tortib> Bashing-om: what's the meta package for LAMP stack in ubuntu?
[20:46] <user-pc__> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:46] <wheatthin> tortib, install tasksel, and select the profile
[20:46] <tortib> wheatthin: is taskel a CLI app? or gui?
[20:46] <wheatthin> cli
[20:47] <tortib> okay ty
[20:47] <user-pc__> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:48] <tortib> wheatthin: once I install taskel and select the profile what do I do next?
[20:48] <tortib> tasksel*
[20:51] <wirser> Hi, I'm currently performing distribution upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04. I know I'll need to shutdown before completing it what is the safest way?
[20:51] <Delian> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:52] <wafflejock> wirser: is it headless? is it on a VPS? or are you talking about a desktop install?
[20:52] <user-pc__> hello can anyone help me to solve that problem i can not figure out how to do it please http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[20:52] <wafflejock> !patience | user-pc__
[20:53] <Delian> ok  thank you:)
[20:53] <sajan_> wafflejock,
[20:53] <wafflejock> user-pc__: it looks like you have a support issue open with bitdefender and they are suggestion you run some script... I haven't used them though
[20:53] <Beldar> user-pc__, Not enough info and a 3rd party app, technically not supported.
[20:53] <wirser> wafflejock: on a p3 laptop so I'd say desktop
[20:54] <Delian> well i have the script but i can not at all figure out how to do it .
[20:54] <Bashing-om> tortib: LAMP is a lump sum of bunches of things: see if this helps: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-install-lamp-on-ubuntu .
[20:55] <user-pc__> how to make that script exucutable on linux ?
[20:55] <wafflejock> user-pc__: sudo chmod a+x filehere.sh
[20:56] <wafflejock> user-pc__: that adds execution for the owner group and other
[20:56] <thrillERboy> Hi I have ubuntu installed on my USB drive I selected the 4 GB persistant file option with pendrivelinux installer, my host drive is 16 GB . I would like to expand the file system more to say 10 GB. how can I do it? thanks
[20:56] <wafflejock> tortib: I have a vid on this too, might be helpful (was 12.04 but mostly the same) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA
[20:56] <user-pc__> so what is that :  sudo sh bd.sh
[20:58] <stevie> hey
[20:59] <stevie> what can install on ubuntu to adjust treble, bass, and stuff
[20:59] <user-pc__> please can anyone help me with it ?
[20:59] <stevie> for speakers
[20:59] <jhutchins> stevie: The standard mixers should have controls for that if the driver for your audio chipset has those features.  Many don't.
[21:00] <user-pc__> where i should safe that script first?
[21:01] <T4b> Pretty new install, everything on one partition. After the install I shrank it to 5GB, moved it to another harddrive (gparted copy and paste feature), bootet it once and then grew it to 50GB again. When looking at it from another install with gparted everything seemed and seems okay (i.e. 50GB partition/5GB used). When I look at it with gparted form the running installation, it shows almost 50GB used of 50. df says almost 5GB of 5 used.
[21:01] <jhutchins> user-pc__: What happens when you try to run it?
[21:01] <Guest93213> i need some help
[21:02] <Guest93213> anyone know about macs
[21:02] <user-pc__> crash every time
[21:02] <wafflejock> !mac | Guest93213
[21:02] <jhutchins> user-pc__: I don't think your instructions were good, you need to have the path of the executable.  If you're in the current directory, that should be ./bd.sh
[21:02] <user-pc__> so there is the solution but i can not figure out how to add the script
[21:02] <Klystron> 93213 - macs that run ubuntu?
[21:02] <Guest93213> no im locked out my mac and tryna get in
[21:03] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:03] <jhutchins> user-pc__: What do you mean crash?
[21:03] <Klystron> Maybe there's a Mac channel
[21:03] <Guest93213> my mac dont read my mouse or keyboard and im stuck in tha login screen
[21:03] <jhutchins> Guest93213: Apple has excellent support
[21:03] <jhutchins> Guest93213: Are you running ubuntu on it?
[21:03] <Klystron> he said no
[21:04] <user-pc__> just gone
[21:04] <Guest93213> no im runnin ubuntu on windows
[21:04] <Klystron> ON Windows?
[21:04] <user-pc__> http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[21:04] <thrillERboy> Hi I have ubuntu installed on my USB drive I selected the 4 GB persistant file option with pendrivelinux installer, my host drive is 16 GB . I would like to expand the file system more to say 10 GB. how can I do it? thanks
[21:05] <PCLine_> I am running Ubuntu in windows also!
[21:05] <jhutchins> user-pc__: If you don't tell us what happens when you run that command we can't help you.  Does it do nothing or does it give you an error?
[21:05] <Klystron> ON, IN ?  I am running it as a guest VM under Windows
[21:05] <Elisabeth22>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.ly/1mFMmyS
[21:05] <Klystron> as that what you guys mean?
[21:06] <deamosreapos> Evening
[21:06] <deamosreapos> Is there anyone availeble with some knowledge in scripting and such?
[21:06] <deamosreapos> (and awake :D)
[21:06] <user-pc__> nothing at all just close the program, so there is solution the patch but i can not figure out how to ad it in order to work
[21:06] <PCLine_> VirtualPC in Win7 and HyperV in Win8.1
[21:06] <jhutchins> Klystron: You can install Linux either as a dual-boot or as the only operating system on a Mac.
[21:06] <deamosreapos> Im running a raspbian OS on a raspberry (noone reacts there) and I want to run a simple startup script
[21:07] <deamosreapos> But whatever guide I use none are working and its driving me mad (:
[21:07] <jhutchins> user-pc__: Try sudo sh ./bd.sh
[21:07] <eanyx> hi
[21:07] <karab44> I have G940 joystick but not all wheels are working
[21:07] <eanyx> does any of you have tried ubuntu 14.10 ?
[21:07] <karab44> any ideas how to fix that?
[21:08] <iceroot_> eanyx: #ubuntu+1
[21:08] <Klystron> jhutchins: right, but then you are simply running Ubuntu when you boot Ubuntu.
[21:08] <mumu__> join #ltsb
[21:08] <eanyx> thank you iceroot_
[21:08] <user-pc__> ok but what about that patch? what i must do with it ? how and where to safe it please
[21:08] <jhutchins> deamosreapos: How raspian handles startup scripts is probably different than how ubuntu handles startup scripts.  raspian is not related to ubuntu.
[21:08] <mumu__> join #ltsp
[21:08] <wirser> which would be better to just shut down the pc or to (using say CNTR  c to shut down the distribution  upgrade program?
[21:08] <user-pc__> http://unices.bitdefender.com/2011/11/01/bitdefender-antivirus-scanner-for-unices/
[21:09] <Klystron> raspian is related to ubuntu only in the sense that they both are derived from Debian
[21:09] <jhutchins> Klystron: If he were running ubuntu, we might be able to help him, but for OSX he needs to go to Apple support.
[21:09] <expunge> unices, heh
[21:09] <deamosreapos> I know but its a debian based question not ubuntu nor raspbian
[21:09] <user-pc__> http://pastebin.com/49sL3wtF
[21:10] <deamosreapos> How can we solve this with ubuntu if it was that ? :)
[21:10] <jhutchins> deamosreapos: If the IRC channel isn't responsive you'll probably get better results from user forums or mailing lists.
[21:10] <jhutchins> deamosreapos: Like I said, different OS, different startup system.
[21:10] <jhutchins> deamosreapos: It probably uses sysvinit rather than systemd.
[21:12] <user-pc__> please will you spend just one min with my issue
[21:12] <Klystron> Raspian is a modified Debian Wheezy.  Maybe look at Debian Wheezy if you can't find dox enough for raspian
[21:13] <wafflejock> yup would go with Klystron's advice here deamosreapos
[21:13] <expunge> 238 people in #raspbian
[21:13] <samthewildone> So the multisystem boot on did 50% of the job
[21:13] <wafflejock> I run raspbian too for some things but for support for that OS I'd look to the base OS instructions probably your best bet
[21:13] <wafflejock> deamosreapos: ^
[21:14] <deamosreapos> thanks :) Ill try that ^^
[21:14] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > bdgui
[21:14] <wafflejock> stevie: there might be some software equalizers built into Amarok or other audio players, I know winamp used to have one
[21:14] <user-pc__> *** Error in `bdgui': free(): invalid pointer: 0xb6c69478 ***
[21:14] <user-pc__> Aborted
[21:15] <wafflejock> user-pc__: you'll need to get support from the company/support people who supplied the script, giving them this error will probably help too and give them info from, lsb_release -a and uname -a
[21:16] <user-pc__> they just did help me - they give me a script but i need help here how to do it
[21:16] <user-pc__> http://pastebin.com/BWYj7kgd
[21:17] <Klystron> stevie: Clementine is a great mediaplayer based on Amarok but better.  It does have an equalizer setting.
[21:17] <user-pc__> sudo sh bd.sh     ??????
[21:17] <Klystron> Better IMHO
[21:17] <expunge> user-pc__: ??????????
[21:17] <wafflejock> user-pc__: sounds like you were already able to run it many other users complaining with the same problem here http://unices.bitdefender.com/2011/11/01/bitdefender-antivirus-scanner-for-unices/
[21:17] <wafflejock> user-pc__: no anwer from bd though or otherwise in that post at least
[21:18] <user-pc__> how to execute that and how and where to safe the script please
[21:18] <Exagone313> user-pc__: ask where is bd.sh
[21:18] <tortib> does anyone know the sysctl option to disable kernel pointers?
[21:19] <user-pc__> all is here but still for me is black magic http://unices.bitdefender.com/2011/11/01/bitdefender-antivirus-scanner-for-unices/
[21:19] <Exagone313> user-pc__: but I think it is the script on this link
[21:19] <motaka2> hello I can't install teaviewer by double clicking on it's .deb  package. nothing happens. what should I do ?
[21:19] <expunge> user-pc__: use clamav, done
[21:19] <expunge> motaka2: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[21:19] <expunge> motaka2: or just use the tarball version
[21:20] <Exagone313> motaka2: or right click > open with (may work)
[21:21] <user-pc__> yes the script is there ,thats the one  but i have no idea how to run it or however you call it i am new in linux so please someone just to have a look and give me a tip , i know how easy for you is that guys please !
[21:23] <user-pc__> there are just two steps to do so please will someone explain me how to make it please !!!http://unices.bitdefender.com/2011/11/01/bitdefender-antivirus-scanner-for-unices/
[21:25] <Klystron> user_pc__: run a script this way (quotes are for clarity and would not be typed): "sudo ./myscript.sh" if you are already in the same directory as the script.  Otherwise replace "./" with the proper path to it.  I know a lot of people call "sh" to run a script but I get by without that usually.
[21:25] <wirser> user-pc: do you know how to use the terminal program?
[21:25] <Klystron> bonk... good point
[21:26] <user-pc__> yes i know how to use terminal but if i copy the script then what?
[21:26] <user-pc__> where should i past it?
[21:26] <expunge> nowhere, why would you want to use some weird av
[21:27] <Klystron> user-pc__: the script has to have execute permissions set.
[21:28] <Klystron> user-pc__: see the chmod command or use a GUI file manager to change permissions.
[21:28] <user-pc__> yes i know but where i put that script?
[21:29] <jhutchins> No, the script does not need execute permissions if it executed with sh as shown.
[21:29] <wirser> unless told otherwise in you home directory will do
[21:29] <Klystron> have you looked at the content of the script?  a lot of well written scripts will work even if not located in a specific directory
[21:30] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > sudo sh bd.sh
[21:30] <user-pc__> [sudo] password for user-pc:
[21:30] <user-pc__> sh: 0: Can't open bd.sh
[21:30] <havarka> guys, how to install deluge 1.3.7 in lubuntu, it doesnt want to accept its ppa key?!
[21:30] <Klystron> jhutchins: ahh.  maybe that's why so many people call scripts with sh
[21:30] <Kamuela> When I do sudo apt-get update, the update hangs for a very long time at a particular place but it's not easy to see what it is. What would be the best way to figure out what repo is causing this?
[21:31] <havarka> Kamuela try to change the location from where you download
[21:31] <Klystron> kameula: doesn't the output to the terminal show you what it is doing at the time?
[21:32] <user-pc__> ?
[21:33] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:34] <Klystron> user-pc__: try without the "sh" part.  do it like "sudo ./bd.sh"
[21:34] <Klystron> no quotes obviously
[21:34] <user-pc__> sudo ./bd.sh
[21:34] <user-pc__> sudo: ./bd.sh: command not found
[21:35] <wafflejock> user-pc__: that means you aren't in the same folder as the bd.sh file
[21:35] <Klystron> if you do an "ls -alh" is it listed?
[21:35] <Klystron> by it i mean the bd.sh file
[21:35] <user-pc__> the file dont exist yet !! that was my problem where and how i put the file ?
[21:35] <jhutchins> user-pc__: Wow, finally some useful information.
[21:36] <jhutchins> user-pc__: Put it in your home or downloads directory.
[21:36] <Klystron> the ls command will list the contents of the directory you are in
[21:36] <user-pc__> but how please?
[21:36] <k1l> user-pc__: put it where you wan
[21:36] <k1l> *want
[21:36] <OerHeks> user-pc__,  i read back, you did try to run the script, it gave an error, so it existed. and now it is not found?
[21:36] <jhutchins> user-pc__: Then change to that directory and try the original command.
[21:37] <user-pc__> yes coz i delete it i thought is something wrong
[21:37] <thrillERboy> Hi if I delete the casper-rw file in my bootable usb what will happen? will now longer be bootable?
[21:37] <Klystron> user-pc__: what platform are you doing this on?  I saw android in there somewhere I thought.
[21:37] <thrillERboy> Hi if I delete the casper-rw file in my bootable usb what will happen? will it no* longer be bootable?
[21:37] <wafflejock> motaka2: you get that installed?
[21:37] <user-pc__> mint 17
[21:37] <user-pc__> android is my chosen name
[21:37] <Klystron> ok gotcha
[21:38] <Klystron> do this user-pc: sudo apt-get install locate
[21:38] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > uname -a
[21:38] <user-pc__> Linux Android 3.13.0-34-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 13 15:49:09 UTC 2014 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[21:38] <Klystron> then sudo updatedb
[21:38] <Klystron> then do "locate bd.sh"
[21:39] <Klystron> no quotes
[21:39] <user-pc__> locate is already the newest version.
[21:39] <user-pc__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:39] <Klystron> that will tell you where the script is at
[21:39] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > sudo updatedb
[21:39] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ >
[21:39] <wafflejock> user-pc__: all good now locate
[21:40] <expunge> 'find' is faster, if you have to update your db anyways
[21:40] <Klystron> shhhhh
[21:40] <wafflejock> eh whatever locate is simple
[21:40] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:40] <user-pc__> ?
[21:40] <wafflejock> sajan: hey saw your PM
[21:40] <wafflejock> sajan: not sure what that means, ask the group here
[21:40] <user-pc__> ?
[21:40] <eeee> user-pc__: my money's on ~/Downloads
[21:40] <wafflejock> trying to run memcheck and sajan is getting no ramdisk found in kernel error
[21:40]  * wirser rofl
[21:41] <user-pc__> yes indeed is on downloads
[21:41] <user-pc__> so what now?
[21:41] <eeee> sudo sh ~/Downloads/<scriptname>
[21:41] <Klystron> okay do this
[21:41] <Klystron> cd ~/downloads
[21:42] <eeee> Klystron: ~/Downloads ,
[21:42] <Klystron> then.... sudo ./bd.sh
[21:42] <Klystron> yeah what eeee said
[21:42] <CodeGosu> in linux some programs like winrar can estimate how much space will compressed folder take, are there anything like that in linux or maybe some way to estimate size of compresed folder from commandline
[21:42] <user-pc__> bdcore.so.linux-x86 ................ updated
[21:42] <user-pc__> Update succeeded.
[21:42] <Klystron> or sudo sh ./bd.sh
[21:43] <Klystron> woot!
[21:43] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > sudo sh ./bd.sh
[21:43] <user-pc__> sh: 0: Can't open ./bd.sh
[21:43] <RedheadedCupcake> expunge were you helping me with getting my laptop to burn CD's yesterday?
[21:43] <Klystron> do a ls -alh
[21:43] <wirser> pwd
[21:43] <Klystron> see if eXecute is set
[21:44] <user-pc__> yes it is
[21:44] <Klystron> hmm ok
[21:44] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~ > bdgui
[21:44] <user-pc__> *** Error in `bdgui': double free or corruption (out): 0xb6c30460 ***
[21:44] <user-pc__> Aborted
[21:44] <user-pc__> user-pc@Androi
[21:44] <Klystron> so the script is running but now erroring out
[21:45] <eeee> user-pc@Android:~ > sudo sh ./bd.sh <<< you're in ~ directory not ~/Downloads
[21:45] <user-pc__> i am not sure if the script is running
[21:45] <wafflejock> CodeGosu: here's the man page info for gzip I don't see a flag for simulation or the like though http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/gzip.1.html
[21:45] <user-pc__> i try to run bdgui
[21:46] <Klystron> user-pc: type this: cd ~/Downloads
[21:46] <expunge> simulation of compression?
[21:46] <Klystron> then do: pwd
[21:46] <Klystron> to verify
[21:46] <OerHeks> CodeGosu, i never found an estimated size during compression option/script
[21:46] <wafflejock> expunge: yeah wants to know the possible estimated size of compression
[21:46] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:46] <expunge> not sure what the point would be
[21:46] <wafflejock> sajan: sup
[21:46] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~/Downloads > pwd
[21:46] <user-pc__> /home/user-pc/Downloads
[21:46] <expunge> you use gzip when you want fast and light compression
[21:46] <wirser> well it's been a slice but library is closing - just shutting down and hoping distribution upgrae picks up where I'm leaving off
[21:46] <expunge> if you have to fit in a specific size, use tar and volumes
[21:47] <expunge> or just 'split' it afterwards
[21:47] <Klystron> great user-pc, you are in your personal downloads directory
[21:47] <user-pc__> :)
[21:47] <Klystron> now do a: ls -alh
[21:47] <Klystron> and see if the file you want is there and has execute set
[21:47] <user-pc__> total 12K
[21:47] <user-pc__> drwxr-xr-x  2 user-pc user-pc 4,0K Αύγ  24 22:46 .
[21:47] <user-pc__> drwxr-xr-x 28 user-pc user-pc 4,0K Αύγ  25 00:45 ..
[21:47] <user-pc__> -rwxr-xr-x  1 user-pc user-pc  509 Αύγ  24 22:46 bd.s
[21:48] <Klystron> i see a bd.s
[21:48] <user-pc__> yes:)
[21:48] <Klystron> no .sh on it?
[21:48] <Klystron> or just incomplete paste
[21:48] <user-pc__> -rwxr-xr-x  1 user-pc user-pc  509 Αύγ  24 22:46 bd.sh
[21:48] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~/Downloads >
[21:48] <Klystron> cool
[21:49] <g0th> hi
[21:49] <Klystron> execute is set for UGO so that's good to go
[21:49] <g0th> how do I add the currently mounted devices to my panel in a recent ubuntu?
[21:49] <Klystron> so type: sudo ./bd.sh
[21:49] <user-pc__> ill pretend i understand :)
[21:49] <Klystron> UGO means user, group, and other
[21:50] <user-pc__> BitDefender Antivirus Scanner for Unices v7.90123 Linux-i586
[21:50] <user-pc__> Copyright (C) 1996-2009 BitDefender. All rights reserved.
[21:50] <user-pc__> This program is licensed for home or personal use only.
[21:50] <user-pc__> Usage in an office or production environment represents
[21:50] <user-pc__> a violation of the license terms
[21:50] <eeee> Unices :D
[21:50] <OerHeks> g0th, just drag them from nautilus filemanager
[21:50] <g0th> I don't have nautilus
[21:51] <OerHeks> g0th, what recent ubuntu do you have then?
[21:51] <eeee> g0th: what do you have?
[21:51] <g0th> I would just like to be able to mount/unlock and umount/lock from the panel
[21:51] <g0th> OerHeks: I don't use nautilus
[21:51] <eeee> g0th: panel meaning launcher?
[21:51] <g0th> yes
[21:51] <k1l> g0th: what ubuntu is it then?
[21:52] <g0th> 14.04
[21:52] <user-pc__> ?
[21:52] <eeee> make a script that checks if it's mounted or not and mounts, if not unmounts and add it as a .desktop
[21:52] <g0th> is there no easy way to add such simple functionality to the panel?
[21:52] <g0th> it was there
[21:52] <wafflejock> g0th: don't think the panel offers that capability like eeee suggests you can add it in
[21:52] <g0th> I accidently clicked remove from panel
[21:52] <g0th> and I would like to get it back
[21:52] <wafflejock> oh well if it used to work maybe I just never noticed
[21:53] <g0th> it does offer it
[21:53] <g0th> it was there
[21:53] <g0th> I try to get it back
[21:53] <eeee> g0th: ok in the dash type the name of the mounted drive, itll appear then drag it as OerHeks suggested
[21:53] <g0th> I just have to find the right command/panel app
[21:53] <user-pc__> user-pc@Android:~/Downloads > bdgui
[21:53] <user-pc__> *** Error in `bdgui': free(): invalid pointer: 0xb6c62478 ***
[21:53] <user-pc__> Aborted
[21:53] <g0th> ok that worked
[21:53] <g0th> thanks
[21:53] <eeee> np
[21:54] <k1l> g0th: which desktop is it? and why not using nautilus?
[21:55] <n-st> hi, i'm running into what seems to be a kernel bug: whenever i connect a usb 3.0 → msata adapter, the kernel panics after about ten seconds. strangely, this happens with the 3.14 and 3.16 mainline kernels, but not with the 3.13 distribution kernel…
[21:56] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:56] <wafflejock> sajan: sup, no luck with tapping Shift to get into grub menu?
[21:56] <Klystron> user-pc: I can't be much help on troubleshooting the script itself sorry to say.
[21:57] <Klystron> perhaps others in here can.
[21:59] <user-pc__> Never mind i just send the error output to the BD hope they will deall wit it since the problem is already known for 4 years :) thank you for your time and help enjoy the day :)
[22:00] <Klystron> yw
[22:01] <Klystron> good luck
[22:01] <user-pc__> :)
[22:01] <user-pc__> same to you
[22:01] <Klystron> tks
[22:04] <motaka2> wafflejock: no
[22:04] <motaka2> I cant do this
[22:05] <wafflejock> motaka2: you can install gdebi installer
[22:05] <wafflejock> motaka2: sudo apt-get install gdebi
[22:05] <motaka2> wafflejock: doing that
[22:05] <wafflejock> motaka2: then run, sudo gdebi somepackage.deb
[22:06] <sajan> wafflejock,
[22:07] <motaka2> wafflejock: What was this doing? I ran this before: and nothing changed
[22:07] <motaka2>  sudo dpkg -i /home/donkarlo/Desktop/teamviewer_linux.deb
[22:07] <wafflejock> motaka2: yeah that should have been fine what do you mean by nothing changed? you can't run teamviewer from the dash?
[22:08] <wafflejock> motaka2: you can use dpkg -L somepackage to see where the files are extracted to from that package
[22:08] <motaka2> wafflejock: sorry I think it is installed
[22:08] <wafflejock> motaka2: yeah sometimes the dash takes a minute to get the updated desktop files for some reason (er at least I know that happened with the K start menu sometimes)
[22:09] <motaka2> wafflejock: Is teamviwer something dangerous?
[22:09] <Griffin> Hello people, when i type cwd in terminal, i get the following message
[22:09] <Griffin> No command 'cwd' found, did you mean:  Command 'cdw' from package 'cdw' (universe)  Command 'cwm' from package 'swap-cwm' (universe)  Command 'pwd' from package 'coreutils' (main)  Command 'xwd' from package 'x11-apps' (main)  Command 'gwd' from package 'geneweb' (universe)  Command 'cw' from package 'cw' (universe) cwd: command not found
[22:09] <OerHeks> Griffin, that looks oke.
[22:09] <wafflejock> motaka2: not really... people don't suggest third party installs because they won't be updated automatically with security fixes, and since we don't have the source there's no way to really fix underlying problems if they're found, I haven't heard anything particularly good or bad about Teamviewer itself
[22:10] <TJ-> Griffin: Maybe you want "pwd" or "echo $PWD" (Present Working Directory)
[22:10] <motaka2> wafflejock: thank you
[22:10] <wafflejock> motaka2: I use VNC viewer through an SSH tunnel when I want a remote GUI personally, but gotta use what works
[22:10] <Griffin> doesnt cwd stand for current working directory
[22:11] <motaka2> wafflejock: someone wants me to teach her Git by teamviewer, i scare she get's access to my files
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Griffin: What did you antcipate as a result of 'cwd' ?
[22:12] <OerHeks> not sure why it is not standard
[22:12] <Griffin> my mistake, i have recently installed ubuntu and was learning commands at the terminal. And i mistaken pwd to cwd
[22:12] <Griffin> Thank you for your help
[22:13] <wafflejock> motaka2: yeah can't say really but I think teamviewer is legit software, if you want to keep it safe you might want to just use Google hangouts so it's all locked in the browser
[22:13] <xy86> hi. i have a headphone jack which is apparently broken; it continually switches in and out and therefore causes the sound from the main jack to cut in and out
[22:13] <xy86> i would like to completely disable the headphone jack, but i'm not sure how to do that
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Griffin: Help is what we do, Welcome to the world of ubuntu.
[22:13] <Griffin> Thank you again for the welcome
[22:13] <xy86> i tried pactl list short links, but it doesn't show up
[22:13] <wafflejock> motaka2: I don't think hangouts lets you do remote control but you can remotely view
[22:13] <expunge> xy86: laptop?
[22:13] <xy86> no desktop
[22:13] <sajan> wafflejock,
[22:14] <expunge> xy86: directly on mobo?
[22:14] <xy86> xy86: it is a jack on the case which is is connected by wire to mainboard
[22:14] <Griffin> And also could anyone help me on how to install SFML
[22:14] <xy86> the port directly on the mainboard works fine
[22:14] <expunge> probably just cut the wire, then
[22:14] <linman32> wafflejock: did you help me w/ lockscreen issue last time?
[22:14] <Griffin> i mean sudo apt-get then what
[22:15] <xy86> expunge: lol, that's too obvious now that you mention it; thanks
[22:15] <Bashing-om> Griffin: Define 'SFML" for me.
[22:15] <expunge> xy86: is it stable if you plug a jack into it?
[22:16] <Griffin> its a C++ library
[22:16] <xy86> expunge: not really, i have to turn the plug around and around to get it into the perfect position to be consistent
[22:16] <wafflejock> linxcat: maybe I'm in and out of the Ubuntu chat kinda live in the AngularJS chat, what's up
[22:16] <xy86> i think it is just a bad port on the case
[22:16] <Griffin> http://www.sfml-dev.org/
[22:16] <expunge> xy86: hrmm, sounds like just a bad contact
[22:17] <expunge> xy86: what if you wrap the jack in a bit of aluminium foil and smush it in there
[22:17] <expunge> "super fml"? =P
[22:17] <expunge> bbl