[15:41] <klotzek> Hello.
[15:44] <klotzek> Firefox on x64 ubuntu is compiled on x64 architecture,or it uses 32libs in emulation mode?
[16:04] <a-l-e> hi, i need help to create my ppa.
[16:05] <a-l-e> the goal is to create a ppa for a snapshot of a specific branch of scribus.
[16:05] <a-l-e> it's not about providing official packages.
[16:05] <a-l-e> is there any clear and fast howto on creating a ppa?
[16:06] <a-l-e> for now i've only found howtos explaining the phylosophy of ppas...
[16:07] <TheLordOfTime> a-l-e:  there's no easy "how to" per se, i can give you a brief overview though of "creating" the PPA, as for actually putting packages in there, do you have any experience with packaging?
[16:07] <a-l-e> no, not really.
[16:07] <a-l-e> one question which is not clear from the documentation (https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage):
[16:08] <a-l-e> do i need to create a .deb to distribute a .ppa?
[16:08] <a-l-e> i'm mostly interested in the minimal files and directories i have to create in order create a valid ppa
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> you need to create a debian source package, either via a recipe or otherwise, to put into the PPA
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> so it requires (some) packaging
[16:09] <a-l-e> there is already a ppa for the same version of scribus (with some dependencies less) and a .deb for scribus stable.
[16:09] <a-l-e> so i should be able to use them as a base if somebody tells me how...
[16:09] <TheLordOfTime> but you want a specific bzr or  git or whatever snapshot for personal use?
[16:10] <a-l-e> it will come from a branch  of scribus own git repository
[16:10] <a-l-e> git clone git://git.scribus.net/scribus.git
[16:10]  * TheLordOfTime yawns as he realizes he booted into Windows instead of Ubuntu
[16:10] <a-l-e> at first i want to upload a snapshot of the indic branch
[16:10] <TheLordOfTime> DAMN IT, i shall return shortly
[16:11] <a-l-e> ok :-)
[16:11] <a-l-e> i'll download the existing ppa now... while waiting for you
[16:12] <a-l-e> yofel: you around?
[16:12] <a-l-e> i see that you are the packager for the scribus 1.5 ppa...
[16:13]  * TheLordOfTime shows up
[16:14] <TheLordOfTime> heh, yofel's involved in a lot :P  i'd expect him to have packaging experience (he's a dev)
[16:16] <a-l-e> i've seen his name for a long time in the scribus channel... but never chatted with him...
[16:16] <TheLordOfTime> a-l-e:  how often are you going to be updating, though, every git push?
[16:16] <a-l-e> no, manually
[16:16] <a-l-e> where there is something new to test.
[16:17] <yofel> ali1234: start with [17:30:49] <yofel_> making it uninstallable
[16:17] <yofel> [17:31:30] <apachelogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/1023225
[16:17] <yofel> [17:31:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1023225 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "missing dependency in kdelibs" [Undecided,New]
[16:17] <yofel> [17:33:33] <yofel_> debfx: bug https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=precise&batch=100
[16:17] <yofel> [17:33:37] <yofel_> fail
[16:17] <yofel> [17:33:51] <yofel_> bug 1037392
[16:17] <yofel> [17:33:53] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1037392 in Kubuntu PPA "kscreensaver depends on libkexiv2-11, which is not in Kubuntu Updates" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037392
[16:17] <yofel> [17:37:10] <-- BluesKaj (~kaj@unaffiliated/blueskaj) has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
[16:17] <yofel> [17:39:42] <-- apol__<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[16:19] <TheLordOfTime> yofel:  if you're not busy, a-l-e might need help getting their own PPA set up with a scribus snapshot from git (if i'm reading them right)
[16:19]  * TheLordOfTime is once again arguing with his PHP source code changes
[16:19] <a-l-e> yep, TheLordOfTime your right :-)
[16:20] <TheLordOfTime> ... okay, you know what, screw it
[16:20] <TheLordOfTime> *chucks his PHP code changes out the window, starts anew*
[16:21] <a-l-e> i guess that downloading https://launchpad.net/~scribus/+archive/ppa/+files/scribus-trunk_1.5.0svn201209081853-23%7Eprecise1_i386.deb is a good start...
[16:21] <yofel> ok, that went bad
[16:21] <yofel> next try
[16:21] <yofel> a-l-e: start with https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Activating_a_PPA
[16:21] <yofel> hehe
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> yofel:  he's trying to actually learn the "Getting the packages into the PPA" part i think
[16:21] <yofel> yeah, that's the daily build which has roughly the packaging you want
[16:21] <a-l-e> yep
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> or at least he'll need that after activation
[16:21] <a-l-e> i have a repository on launchpad
[16:22] <a-l-e> https://launchpad.net/~ale-comp-06/
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> https://launchpad.net/~ale-comp-06/+archive/scribus-git-indic
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> ;)
[16:22] <yofel> ah ok
[16:22] <a-l-e> yep, the goal is to fill that :-)
[16:24] <yofel> so you want to upload a git snapshot. Do you plan to have that automated in the future?
[16:24] <a-l-e> no
[16:24] <a-l-e> it will always be manual
[16:24] <yofel> ok
[16:25] <yofel> a-l-e: how much do you know about debian packaging?
[16:25] <a-l-e> nothing...
[16:25] <yofel> roughly
[16:25] <yofel> ok
[16:25] <a-l-e> but i've been using for years
[16:26] <a-l-e> and i'm comfortable with programming or creating zip files from cpp or php code...
[16:26] <yofel> for a debian package you'll need the source, and the package control files in a debian/ folder
[16:27] <a-l-e> i have the source and i guess that i can reuse almost all of your control files...
[16:27] <yofel> yeah, but wait, I think you fetched the .deb
[16:28] <yofel> that's not what you need
[16:28] <a-l-e> not yet
[16:29] <yofel> first: go somewhere where you want to have the package extracted and run:
[16:29] <yofel> dget https://code.launchpad.net/~scribus/+archive/ppa/+files/scribus-trunk_1.5.0svn201209081853-23%7Eprecise1.dsc
[16:29] <a-l-e> i mean not fetched yet... but i can fetch anything that is needed
[16:30] <a-l-e> ok
[16:31] <yofel> once it's done run: dpkg-source -x scribus-trunk_1.5.0svn201209081853-23%7Eprecise1.dsc
[16:32] <yofel> then you'll have a scribus-trunk-1.5.0svn201209081853 folder and inside is the debian folder containing the packaging
[16:34] <a-l-e> i have to install some software... since i just installed ubuntu in a VM
[16:34] <yofel> sure
[16:34] <a-l-e> so i'm a bit slower than usual :-)
[16:40] <a-l-e--> ok, getting in from ubuntu
[16:41] <a-l-e--> dpkg-source -x scribus-trunk_1.5.0svn201209081853-23~precise1.dsc
[16:41] <a-l-e--> dpkg-source: warning: extracting unsigned source package (scribus-trunk_1.5.0svn201209081853-23~precise1.dsc)
[16:41] <a-l-e--> dpkg-source: error: cannot fstat file ./scribus-trunk_1.5.0svn201209081853-23~precise1.tar.gz: No such file or directory
[16:42] <yofel> did you dget the dsc? note: dget, not wget
[16:42] <a-l-e--> well, that was a reflex...
[16:42] <a-l-e--> i wanted a dget but typed a wget...
[16:46] <a-l-e> ok dgetting
[16:50] <a-l-e--> scribus-trunk_1.5.0svn201209081853-23%7Eprecise1.dsc:
[16:50] <a-l-e--> dscverify: scribus-trunk_1.5.0svn201209081853-23%7Eprecise1.dsc failed signature check:
[16:50] <a-l-e--> gpg: keyblock resource `/home/ale/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error
[16:50] <a-l-e--> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[16:50] <a-l-e--> gpg: processing message failed: eof
[16:50] <a-l-e--> Validation FAILED!!
[16:50] <yofel> yeah, ignore that, now you need to run dpkg-source -x on the dsc
[16:50] <a-l-e--> ok
[16:52] <yofel> what's the package name going to be?
[16:52] <a-l-e> scribus-git-indic
[16:53] <a-l-e> and then date and so on...
[16:53] <yofel> ok
[16:53] <a-l-e> ok, i have extracted the package with dpgk-source
[16:55] <yofel> good, now export your git source into a new folder, called scribus-git-indic-$VERSION, for the trunk package the VERSION is 1.5.0svn201209081853, so choose your own
[16:55] <a-l-e> well, i'll use the same: 1.5.0git201209091900 ...
[16:55] <a-l-e> well, i'll use the same: 1.5.0gitindic201209091900 ...
[16:56] <a-l-e> well, i'll use the same: 1.5.0git.indic201209091900 ...
[16:56] <a-l-e> voilà
[16:56] <yofel> ok, so your source folder will be called scribus-git-indic-1.5.0git.indic201209091900
[16:57] <yofel> now move the debian folder from the daily package into yours
[16:59] <yofel> now as a start, you'll have to change all occurences of 'scribus-trunk' into 'scribus-git-indic' in the files inside debian/
[16:59] <a-l-e> i'll first have to get the git code in the virtual machine...
[16:59] <a-l-e> ok
[17:00] <a-l-e> i can do that in parallel
[17:00] <yofel> then rename scribus-trunk.* to scribus-git-indic.*
[17:04] <yofel> the same goes for patches/01_scribus.desktop.dpatch, the other patch should be fine
[17:04] <yofel> do you have a gpg key? You'll need one for the upload later
[17:05] <a-l-e> i need the virtual machine additions
[17:14]  * a-l-e is trying to get his private key into the ubuntu vm...
[18:08] <a-l-e> ok, everything is ready to work again...
[18:09] <a-l-e> had to fight a bit to get the shared folders working...
[18:10] <a-l-e> following the next steps...
[18:16] <a-l-e> dinner, and then i'll try to follow the next steps!
[19:33] <a-l-e> yofel: i'm getting through...
[19:33] <a-l-e> i guess that i can remove all patches...
[19:34] <a-l-e> ok, no, i leave them...
[19:45] <ASU> Hello
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[19:55] <a-l-e--> now i have scribus-git-indic-1.5.0git.indic201209091900 directory with the following content:
[19:59] <yofel> a-l-e: was busy for a bit, back now
[19:59] <yofel> the patches are ok, you might have to edit the 01 one so the desktop file has the right name
[20:01] <a-l-e--> http://pastebin.com/bnk9aXMg
[20:02] <a-l-e--> i've grepped for trunk and replaced all the occurences with git-indic
[20:02] <yofel> ok
[20:03] <yofel> next, you need to set DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME, i.e.
[20:03] <yofel> export<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:03] <yofel> export DEBFULLNAME="Full Name"
[20:04] <yofel> those should match with your gpgkey so debsign finds it by itself
[20:05] <a-l-e--> ok, the email does not match the gpgkey...
[20:06] <yofel> no problem, worst case you can tell debsign the key hash yourself
[20:06] <yofel> next add a new changelog entry with 'dch -i' which should automatically open an editor
[20:06] <a-l-e--> ok
[20:06] <yofel> there make sure the version is set right in the brackets, something like 1.5.0git.indic201209091900-0~ppa1
[20:07] <a-l-e--> well, i've already made a manual log entry...
[20:07] <yofel> works too as long as it's correctly formatted
[20:08] <a-l-e--> ok
[20:08] <BadDesign> I want my account on Launchpad and ALL its information be deleted, is this possible? My account has been deactived in 2009
[20:08] <yofel> a-l-e: ok, if you're done, close it and try to run 'debuild -S'
[20:10] <BadDesign> Why I can't delete my information?
[20:10] <a-l-e--> i guess i still  have an error...
[20:10] <BadDesign> This is ridiculous
[20:10] <a-l-e--> the debian directory should be in the main source directory...
[20:11] <yofel> right...
[20:11] <yofel> oh sorry
[20:11] <yofel> missed the mismatch in the paste
[20:11] <yofel> move the contents of Scribus one level higher
[20:11] <a-l-e--> done
[20:12] <a-l-e--> where should i be to run debuild?
[20:12] <a-l-e--> one level below debian?
[20:12] <a-l-e--> (in the main package directory?)
[20:13] <yofel> both should work
[20:13] <yofel> in source or in debian
[20:13] <a-l-e--> ok
[20:22] <a-l-e> i guess that i need a apt-get buil-dep scribus
[20:23] <yofel> could be, you won't need everything for a source package but that will install everything you'll need
[20:25] <a-l-e> debuild was throwing an error... let's see if it gets better with all the dev things installed
[20:25] <a-l-e> /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make: No such file or directory
[20:25] <a-l-e> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make'.  Stop.
[20:26] <a-l-e> /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make: No such file or directory
[20:26] <a-l-e> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make'.  Stop.
[20:26] <a-l-e> mmm...
[20:26] <yofel> sec
[20:26] <a-l-e> sudo apt-get install dpatch
[20:26] <yofel> correct
[20:26] <a-l-e> looks better now
[20:27] <a-l-e> it's running
[20:30] <a-l-e> running debsign failed
[20:30] <yofel> as it couldn't find your key
[20:30] <yofel> now
[20:31] <yofel> above of your source directory, you should now have a .dsc and _source.changes for your version
[20:31] <yofel> run debsign -k <YOUR_KEY_ID> <changesfile>
[20:31] <yofel> after that you need to import your gpg key on launchpad
[20:32] <yofel> go to https://launchpad.net/~ale-comp-06/+editpgpkeys and add your fingerprint
[20:33] <a-l-e> already done...
[20:33] <yofel> ah ok
[20:34] <yofel> then try: dput ppa:ale-comp-06/scribus-git-indic <changesfile>
[20:34] <yofel> you should be getting a acceptance/rejection mail in a few minutes if it uploads correctly
[20:35] <a-l-e> mmm it does not find my key...
[20:35] <a-l-e> where should it be?
[20:36] <a-l-e> i've given the label from my ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub ...
[20:36] <yofel> *that* is your ssh key
[20:37] <yofel> your gpg key will be in ~/.gnupg - if you have one
[20:37] <yofel> gpg --fingerprint will show what you need
[20:37] <a-l-e> it doesn't return anything :-(
[20:37] <yofel> then you don't have a gpg key yet
[20:38] <a-l-e> mmm... i have that ssh key...
[20:38] <yofel> that's sadly not what we need here
[20:38] <a-l-e> git did use it :-)
[20:38] <yofel> yeah, and bzr will, but packages need a gpg key
[20:38] <a-l-e> ok
[20:38] <yofel> a-l-e: see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey
[20:39] <a-l-e> ok reading it following the instructions...
[20:42] <a-l-e> the computer is generating the key...
[20:43] <a-l-e> the computer is generating the key...
[20:51] <a-l-e> generating a gpg key in a virtual machine can take some time...
[20:53] <yofel> maybe do something while it does that, IIRC it tries to get enthropy from your actions
[20:53] <yofel> (if that wasn't something else)
[20:58] <a-l-e> ok... i don't move the mouse that often :-)
[20:59] <a-l-e> now i have to find how to decript the mail sent by launchpad...
[21:00] <yofel> see step6 quicktip
[21:01] <a-l-e> yeah, no thunderbird installed...
[21:01] <a-l-e> but i will solve it...
[21:01] <a-l-e> the biggest problem will be to get the gpg key out of the vm
[21:02]  * yofel usually uses sftp to get stuff out of a VM - needs openssh-server installed on the host though
[21:03] <a-l-e> well, i've managed to create a shared folder...
[21:06]  * a-l-e is trying to find out how to add a gpg key to claws mail
[21:17] <a-l-e> ok, the key is in
[21:19] <a-l-e> rerunning debuild -S
[21:19] <a-l-e> it should detect the key now
[21:24] <a-l-e> ok, crossing my finger (and keeping my eyes open)...
[21:24] <a-l-e> ... dput is uploading the ppa!
[21:24] <a-l-e> thanks yofel!
[21:29] <yofel> a-l-e: ok, I'm off to bed now, if you still need help with the package in case something fails #ubuntu-packaging is a good place to ask
[21:33] <a-l-e> good night and thanks!
[21:34] <a-l-e> it will probably fail at some time... since not all the dependency are in (at least icu is missing)
[21:34] <a-l-e> but this is a task for one of the next days!
[21:34] <a-l-e> ciao
[21:34] <a-l-e> (btw, i've written down all the steps and i'll try them and eventually document them)