[21:49] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, you mean that if on my actuall ati.run configured xubuntu on my usb key i install nvidia drivers hal will automaticly load the nvidia driver ? and how about conflict of dkms modules ? and how about settings in xorg ?
[21:49] <bivo1> so nobody knows why I can't see a firewire connected dvd burner but can see a hard drive in the same firewire enclosure? Yes, I tried both a blank and a store bought video dvd
[21:49] <WACOMalt> ubuntu_:  wait... do you mean INSTALL ubuntu to that partition?
[21:49] <trism> settings in xorg still work in karmic, that is how my nvidia card is configured
[21:50] <trooperx> i just tired kubuntu and ubuntu , ubuntu is very easy but the deisgn is not beauty =/
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: i guess, ive not tried it but it "should" detect it an load the right driver, if you have an xorg.conf file this will override hal
[21:50] <trism> they just removed some options like dontzap
[21:50] <resno_> how well does windows 7 run in virtual os? and what is the most reliable virtual system?
[21:50] <ubuntu_> WACOMalt, no, setting it as /boot
[21:50] <mattwj2002> !webcam
[21:50] <WACOMalt> ubuntu_: that will destroy your data. you can install the bootloader to that partition, but DO NOT overwrite vista with ubuntu... unless you really want to get rid of vista (I wouldn't blame you)
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> trooperx: you can skin and theme as you wish
[21:50] <tritium> jacquesdupontd: don't use downloads from ati.com.  Ubuntu packages fglrx for you.
[21:50] <jacquesdupontd> tritium, could you help me to make a xorg for ati and nvidia cards loading different modules depending of the computer ? and last question can make a grub that would load all for an nvidia computer and an entry to load for an ati computer
[21:50] <jacquesdupontd> ?
[21:50] <WACOMalt> ubuntu_:  ok, I think that should be fin.. but you may wait for someone else's confirmation first
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> trooperx: you can even make it look like XP / Vista / MacOS
[21:50] <mattwj2002> !webcam
[21:51] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox |  resno_
[21:51] <trooperx> ActionPransip : i can make it beauty like windows7  ?
[21:51] <WACOMalt> I had OSX, Xp x64, Arch, Ubuntu, and Vista all on one PC
[21:51] <sebsebseb> resno_: non free it does mean free as in price, but not free as in freedom,  that one has USB support once set up
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> trooperx: if you think that is beauty, sure
[21:51] <WACOMalt> bbootloaders were fun to get playing nice
[21:51] <blood> can someone help me with my hard drive problems plz
[21:51] <tritium> jacquesdupontd: not in the time I have available now
[21:51] <jacquesdupontd> tritium, first it does not on karmic since jaunty for ati.run cause of the version of xorg, then you don't have the catalyst center and to finish there's the new new catalyst 9.10 drivers that resolve every ati problems and many people don't even know about those 9.10 drivers
[21:51] <russlar> blood: what problems are you having?
[21:51] <sebsebseb> resno_: Virtualbox is what people usaully recommend in here
[21:51] <jacquesdupontd> tritium, is that hard
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> trooperx: ive seen people use emerald then use a vista theme, there are guides all over the place
[21:52] <resno_> sebsebseb: thanks for mentioning that, i was about to say
[21:52] <duffydack> Virtualbox for the win
[21:52] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  resno_
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> trooperx: i use gnomeXP to make my system look like XP, to be ironic
[21:52] <ubuntu_> WACOMalt, will setting the vista partition as /boot be fine or destroy my data?
[21:53] <RenatoSilva> How to use IRC in empathy?
[21:53] <fk_007> anybody know a place to find video/tv stream urls?
[21:53] <nathan_4061> hu
[21:53] <nathan_4061> hi*
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> !ot | fk_007
[21:53] <Ronnie_> I just tried i had rouble with it Renato
[21:53] <joaopinto> ubuntu_, you can use an existing windows partition for /boot, and you don't need a /boot parition for a regular install
[21:53] <RenatoSilva> How to use IRC in empathy?
[21:53] <nathan_4061> how do i create a Mac OS virtual Machine using Virtual Box?
[21:54] <armence> Hey all, so I tried to install xfce to see if I liked it but I didn't, so I uninstalled it quite thouroughly, but now, my login screen and startup and shutdown screens are not back to normal... Can someone help me out?
[21:54] <trooperx> how i make ubuntu with windows 7 design ?
[21:54] <russlar> nathan_4061: you can't
[21:54] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, just setup the account, and then use the Rooms menu to join a room
[21:54] <armence> nathan_4061, Illegally
[21:54] <llutz> nathan_4061: you cannot (legally)
[21:54] <jacquesdupontd> tritium, ActionParsnip don't you have webpage talking about a xorg and modules loading that would work for any computer either on nvidia or ati ? for ActionParsnip i know hal is selecting but first it doesnt work on propriety drivers (composite and so Compiz won't work) and then on a live usbkey hal seems not to be load and when i put the key on an nvidia computers it does not ask me if i would like to load saif graphics
[21:54] <blood> ...I would like to build linux for myself to learn some things perhaps, but my problem seems to be stoping me from starting. When i have an empty disk (nofilesystem) and i run my Os i can see the disk, but when i cfdisk / fdisk and partition a filesystem w/ a swap the drive no longer apears.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> trooperx: websearch, you will find guides
[21:54] <jacquesdupontd> safe
[21:54] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: there's no IRC protocol listed
[21:54] <Ronnie_> RenatoSilva: You have to have to add it liek you would an account, then in the menu you can "Join channel"
[21:54] <Khronos> nathan_4061, you probably can't even do it illegally
[21:54] <russlar> nathan_4061: more than that, the mac os ISO's won't even boot in VB
[21:54] <ubuntu_> joaopinto, so i should select the vista partition as /boot during install but not format it to ext2 or something?
[21:54] <Khronos> nathan_4061, and it depends so much on what type of MacOS you downloaded
[21:54] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, there is on a default install, you need telepathy-idle
[21:55] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: sorry?
[21:55] <nathan_4061> Khronos: OS X
[21:55] <joaopinto> ubuntu_, no, you should not set the vista partition as /boot, you should touch the vista partition as longe you have free disk space to create a new partition
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: you could add some lines to grub2 conf which MAY be able to modify the xorg.conf file, it may be possiblr but ive not done it
[21:55] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, you need to install the package: telepathy-idle
[21:55] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: thanks
[21:55] <Khronos> nathan_4061, google for "osx86project" or "insanelymac"
[21:56] <blood> ...I would like to build linux for myself to learn some things perhaps, but my problem seems to be stoping me from starting. When i have an empty disk (nofilesystem) and i run my Os i can see the disk, but when i cfdisk / fdisk and partition a filesystem w/ a swap the drive no longer apears.
[21:56] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: form your own experience, is empathys's irc better than pidgin's?
[21:56] <drbobb> hey guys what happened to video playback? I can no longer get a picture of size any larger than the video's native resolution, not in any player I tried
[21:56] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, you know i don't care even about that it detects it i would not mind to tell him i want to load xubuntu as nvidia computer or as ati ones i would like to have grub entries that could load just different xorg.conf i don't know how to do that to specify the grub loaded on that entry
[21:56] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, no way, empathy's irc is *MINIMAL*
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> blood: you need to use fdisk / cfdisk to set the partition type. You may want to check the gentoo hanbook page on preparing the disks
[21:57] <lucasicf> how to play wmp video/audio in firefox?
[21:57] <blingo> My wifi was once o.k, now it's not, network is at UNCLAIMED
[21:57] <sebsebseb> RenatoSilva:  Pidgin and Empathy aren't  exacty good for IRC,  Konversation :)  it's a KDE app runs well in Gnome as well,  plus there's  Xchat which  most Ubuntu users use.
[21:57] <sebsebseb> !irc |  RenatoSilva
[21:58] <MatBoy> mhh, what a problems with an FX5200 and 8600 together which always worked perfectly
[21:58] <RenatoSilva> joaopinto: ok thanks
[21:58] <blood> Actionparsnip: the type is set as ext2
[21:58] <rhorse> !wma | lucasicf
[21:58] <drbobb> about pidgin: is the facebook chat plugin broken, or am I doing it wrong?
[21:58] <RenatoSilva> sebsebseb: what if good for YOU may not be good for someone ELSE
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: that may be possble in the new grub, it does allow scripting but I'm unsure if it can modify the partitions or not, You may want to look at mandiva one, that is a mobile usb based distro, it may support multiple video card manufactures being connected when it boots as you wish
[21:58] <ubuntu_> joaopinto, do you mean DONT touch the vista partition at all during install? Your sentence seems to suggest that but doesnt say it
[21:58] <joaopinto> ubuntu_, I mean, DONT
[21:58] <Ashfire908> Hi, when I close the lid of my netbook, it suspends, even though I told it to blank the screen instead, and it totally ignores that the power manager inhibit applet is set to inhibit automatic sleep.
[21:58] <Tartaros> How do I run something from a terminal so that it survives closing the terminal?
[21:59] <RenatoSilva> sebsebseb: I hate Pidgin, but its IRC is the less worse for ME
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> blood: the swap needs to be of type linux swap
[21:59] <ubuntu_> joaopinto, thought so, thanks ;)
[21:59] <DJones> !screen | Tartaros
[21:59] <rhorse> Ashfire908: have you checked bios settings?
[21:59] <ubuntu_> WACOMalt, thanks for your help
[21:59] <fokuslee> hi anyone know how to control the startup order of applications?
[21:59] <fokuslee> this is for karmic koala
[21:59] <trooperx> miradna support linux ?
[21:59] <Tartaros> drbobb: download codecs from mediabuntu
[21:59] <Kasbe> good afternoon
[22:00] <infid> does Tomboy Notes support tagging? i can't figure it out
[22:00] <blood> Actionparsnip: Sappose i set the partition up proporly what other issues would cause the disk not to be read.
[22:00] <drbobb> Tartaros: I believe I did
[22:00] <Ashfire908> rhorse, I was just thinking of that, but it didn't do this with 9.04. I'll go check the BIOS.
[22:00] <Tartaros> DJones: thanks but I on't see much relation to the question
[22:00] <jrib> Tartaros: depending on what you want to do, do one of: COMMAND & disown 2) nohup COMMAND 3) use screen  (/msg ubottu screen)
[22:00] <RenatoSilva> thanks everybody
[22:00] <DJones> Tartaros: If you open a terminal, run screen, then run a command inside screen, you can close the terminal & reconnect later on with the application still running
[22:00] <sebsebseb> RenatoSilva: oh ok at both things
[22:00] <daveycakes> is 9.10 stable as of yet?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> fokuslee: you could write a startup script with sleep commands in and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[22:00] <RenatoSilva> sorry????
[22:00] <RenatoSilva> someone sent me a msg?
[22:00] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  daveycakes
[22:00] <russlar> daveycakes: it was released
[22:00] <daveycakes> i would like to upgrade but not if there are still problems
[22:00] <RenatoSilva> ??
[22:00] <trooperx> miradna support linux ?
[22:00] <daveycakes> yeah but i heard about a few issues
[22:01] <russlar> daveycakes: it was released. stable is a matter of perspective
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> blood: have you formatted it
[22:01] <daveycakes> im asking opinions ;)
[22:01] <sebsebseb> daveycakes:  You can try an upgrade, and then maybe you end up with issues.
[22:01] <infid> 9.10 is the most stable ubuntu i've used and i've ran 4 or 5 different versions on this same laptop
[22:01] <WACOMalt> ubuntu_: no prob. did my suggestion actually help though? :P
[22:01] <Kasbe> daveycakes: I installed 9.10 flawlessly
[22:01] <trooperx> miradna support linux ?
[22:01] <sebsebseb> daveycakes: and if you do you can try and fix or  just clean install the final
[22:01] <Tartaros> jrib: didn't know about "disown", could be that
[22:01] <loopback> ok I need to browse to an external drive in terminal.... if the name of the drive is "driveone" how do I navigate to it?
[22:01] <sebsebseb> daveycakes: and  good idea to have your data some where else as well that isn't your hard disk, if you want to be sure not to lose it
[22:01] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, last question and thank you for you answers, would it be possible to install xubuntu on a usb disk and then add an application like a pack that make your ubuntu able to install ubuntu brand new on other computers
[22:01] <russlar> daveycakes: make a backup with clonezilla, and give it a try
[22:02] <daveycakes> will do thanks
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: sure you can use aptoncd
[22:02] <ubuntu_> WACOMalt, it made me rethink what i was going to do and conclude i need to do some more reading ;)
[22:02] <WACOMalt> ubuntu_: works for me
[22:03] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, so i can make an install ubuntu being a live cd as a software ?
[22:03] <Luyang> hi
[22:03] <hudo> is there a way to allow my kids to install software ONLY from the games section ?
[22:03] <Luyang> largest channel right?
[22:03] <jacquesdupontd> installed ubuntu i meant
[22:03] <Tartaros> jrib: disown worked, thanks :)
[22:03] <joaopinto> hudo, no
[22:03] <jmar71n> use the alternate cd
[22:03] <jrib> Tartaros: all three ways work, each with their own advantages :)
[22:03] <LordHawke13> Is anyone here fluent with Inkscape!?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: you may be able to add the usb as a repo
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | LordHawke13
[22:04] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, ok
[22:04] <Maarten> hmmm.... any of you have problems with laptops not waking up after fallen asleep when you close the lid? Mine never wakes up anymore....
[22:04] <Tartaros> jrib: well this option had the advantage that I understood it, unlike the others :P
[22:04] <Ashfire908> rhorse, it is not the BIOS. There isn't even a setting in there.
[22:05] <LordHawke13> I'm having trouble with Inkscape. I can'
[22:05] <fokuslee> ActionParsnip,  yeah i was thinking about that, but i don't know how to sleep until compiz-fusion finish loading
[22:05] <LordHawke13> Crap. Hit the Enter button. . .
[22:05] <LordHawke13> I can't import an entire image. It only links to it.
[22:06] <loquitus> Trying to find all the files that are in tree 1 that are also in tree 2. How would I do that? I tried: find tree1_path -type f -printf "%f\n" | xargs -0 -I xxx find tree2_path -iname xxx. That did not work
[22:06] <blingo> It's o.k, I've disables prop. drivers
[22:06] <LordHawke13> Is there any way to import an image into Inkscape so that the SVG file doesn't go blank if I move the file I imported?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> fokuslee: you may be able to have a script that waits for a specific process to be running, then run the rest of the script
[22:06] <sebsebseb> hudo: You could suggest such a feature on Brainstorm by the way
[22:06] <sebsebseb> !brainstorm |  hudo
[22:07] <loopback> ok I need to browse to an external drive in terminal.... if the name of the drive is "driveone" how do I navigate to it?
[22:07] <loopback> usb drive
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> loopback: look in /media
[22:08] <loopback> ty ty
[22:08] <armence> So, is there any way to change the background in the loading screen in 9.10?
[22:08] <blood> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/313672/
[22:08] <Big> Hello, how to allow an IP using iptables permanently ? without being blocked even for high traffic from it ?
[22:08] <sebsebseb> armence: the log in screen you mean?
[22:09] <Big> i've used iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j ACCEPT and iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -d <IP_ADDRESS> -j ACCEPT and did not work
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> blood: looks ok
[22:09] <armence> sebsebseb: Yes
[22:09] <blood> can any1 else see anything http://paste.ubuntu.com/313672/
[22:09] <armence> So, is there any way to change the background in the login screen in 9.10?
[22:09] <hellyes> armence: I think you can download splashy and splashy-themes to change the splash screen
[22:09] <sebsebseb> armence: uhmm I think only icons and colours can be changed, unless source code is edited,  GDM 2 is :(   KDM  KDE 4 version on the other hand is :)   where as I didn't like the old KDE 3  Kubuntu log in screen much before
[22:09] <armence> hellyes: Is that the same thing?
[22:09] <Kasbe> I have a grub question: Is it normal that Grub 0.97 doesnt detect my Ubuntu's Ext4 partition? (happened as I installed Debian). What do I have to do to fix this?
[22:10] <sebsebseb> armence: the old GDM could be themed
[22:10] <fokuslee> ActionParsnip, can you please give me a hint im very new to linux, something like while [ ! ps -AUX | find "emerald"]; do sleep 10?
[22:10] <hellyes> splashy is the program and splashy-themes are different themes to choose from
[22:10] <armence> sebsebseb: Well, it's just that I installed xfce to try it out and it changed my login background and now that I removed it, the login background was not fixed
[22:10] <sebsebseb> hellyes: that's for the actsaul boot up though, not the log in screen?
[22:10] <Ashfire908> When I closed the lid on my netbook, it suspends, when I've set it to blank the screen instead, and inhibit automatic sleep is enabled.
[22:11] <Brian_H> how do I force a group to be owner of a file using nfs?
[22:11] <hellyes> armence: I think you can type: sudo apt-get install splashy splashy-themes
[22:11] <Brian_H> ie when "charlie" creates a file its owned by him and his group, and no on else can modify the file, is there a way like in samba to "force group = ____"
[22:11] <sebsebseb> armence: oh I assumed you were on 9.10, but maybe your not, which version?
[22:11] <armence> sebsebseb, I am
[22:11] <hellyes> armence: it's for the boot screen, the splash screen with the moving bar...
[22:11] <docmax> hello i have problems with conky... i ALWAYS have a black background.. even transparancy is set "yes"
[22:11] <armence> hellyes: thanks, but that's not what I'm looking for
[22:11] <_Trullo> hmm.. some wierd bug..
[22:12] <nathan_4061> can someone tell me with witch is better Sun VirtualBox, VMWare or Parallel workstation
[22:12] <sebsebseb> armence: If your up for it give KDM a try,  the one you will get in the 9.10 repo,   I think looks rather nice
[22:12] <Dougdoug4> Ok guys
[22:12] <Dougdoug4> The Ubuntu iso i dl'd came in at 733mb
[22:12] <Dougdoug4> my CD is only 700mb
[22:12] <_Trullo> fresh ubuntu install, I do install nvidia 190 drivers, nothing show up in hardware drivers..only 185 drivers
[22:13] <_Trullo> I activate the 185 drivers, after that the 190 show up
[22:13] <sebsebseb> nathan_4061: Virtualbox  is  usauly recommended in here,  it's rather good, and USB support can be set up in the  version that isn't free as in freedom, but it is free as in price
[22:13] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox |  nathan_4061
[22:13] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  nathan_4061
[22:13] <Dougdoug4> can I use a DVD?
[22:13] <Dougdoug4> or does it have to be a cD?
[22:13] <majestrooo> just upgraded to 9.10 from ubuntu. Now I have the xubuntu logo installed though, how dod this
[22:13] <majestrooo> happen
[22:13] <majestrooo> didn't specify that I wanted to install xubuntu
[22:13] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: that's odd it should be CD sized about 700MB
[22:14] <nathan_4061> i see
[22:14] <JulioNeto> Hi all
[22:14] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: or 700MB
[22:14] <Dougdoug4> 722,722,080 bytes
[22:14] <Dougdoug4> :\
[22:14] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: also before burning your ISO it's a good idea to md5sum it, to make sure you have a good download
[22:15] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: uh burning the contents of the ISO I should say
[22:15] <Dougdoug4> what is md5sum?
[22:15] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: yep I was getting to that
[22:15] <Dougdoug4> yea
[22:15] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  Dougdoug4
[22:15] <Dougdoug4> ..ok
[22:15] <Dougdoug4> but still
[22:15] <Dougdoug4> the file size is 722mb
[22:15] <Dougdoug4> and i have a 700mb cd
[22:15] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, md5sum is a program that will return the MD5 Hash of a file.
[22:16] <Dougdoug4> ok?
[22:16] <Dougdoug4> that still LEAVES ME WITH A PROBLEM
[22:16] <Dougdoug4> are you people deaf or blind or something
[22:16] <Dougdoug4> the file size is 22mb larger than the disk I have
[22:16] <joaopinto> !language | Dougdoug4
[22:16] <robin0800> Dougdoug4: it won't fit on a cd use a dvd
[22:16] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, it's obviously a bad download.
[22:16] <Dougdoug4> how is it bad?
[22:16] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: well do the md5sum and it will telll you if it's a good download. you also need to compare the code you get with the code in one of those files found here http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10 the code needs to be the same for a good download
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: you can burn to a DVD, but you shoudn't  need to, because  it  should fit onto a 700MB  CD
[22:17] <Dougdoug4> I'm using vista
[22:17] <Dougdoug4> how do I mdsum?
[22:17] <ace> Can someone help me with an error with Moblock? I installed it but when I go to run it I get this error: Required configuration file "/var/log/moblock.log" could not be found in the default path. Please specify a different path. How can I specify a different path if the program doesn't start?
[22:17] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, the fact that it's 22 MB larger than 700 MB. check the ISO hash to verify.
[22:17] <Dougdoug4> .........HOW
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: check out the links the bot gave
[22:17] <Dougdoug4> HOW DO I CHECK THE HASH I'M USING VISTA
[22:17] <FloodBot2> Dougdoug4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <joaopinto> !caps | Dougdoug4
[22:17] <sebsebseb> !caps |  Dougdoug4
[22:17] <Dougdoug4> the links don't help for VISTA ITS ALL terminal commands
[22:18] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, Vista has a command prompt.
[22:18] <rocknroll00> Hi, I try to change the login screen using System -> Administration -> Login window but no options for this. I downloaded a login screen theme which contain a .xml, a.desktop and a .jpg file. Could you tell me how to install it properly please?
[22:18] <joaopinto> Dougdoug4, read the answers from ubottu, you already got the answer
[22:18] <standarshy> hi guys
[22:18] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  Dougdoug4
[22:18] <Dougdoug4> it doesn't
[22:18] <Dougdoug4> work
[22:18] <Dougdoug4> on vista
[22:18] <Dougdoug4> 'md5sum' unknown command
[22:18] <lovre> hi all. Why doesnt /etc/rc.local get executed in 9.10??
[22:18] <FloodBot2> Dougdoug4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <joaopinto> rocknroll00, login themes are not supported on Ubuntu 9.10, yet,
[22:19] <joaopinto> lovre, that is a bug reported about that
[22:19] <joaopinto> there
[22:19] <wiretapped> http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2009/msg00255.html [DSA 1932-1] New pidgin packages fix arbitrary code execution
[22:19] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: On Vista you don't run commands to do this, you install a program
[22:19] <standarshy> Is there anyway to boot the ubuntu installer from a ntfs drive?
[22:19] <wiretapped> Is ubuntu affected by DSA 1932-1 ?
[22:19] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, you have to get md5sum program! Read the HOWTO page.
[22:19] <rocknroll00> joaopinto, ha that's why, ok then :)
[22:19] <joaopinto> wiretapped, file a bug on launchpad, this is not the proper place to report that
[22:20] <cygnus_> hi
[22:20] <cygnus_> i installed ubuntu but it uses only 2gb
[22:20] <cygnus_> how can i make it install a default set of apps like office?
[22:20] <dygey> does anyone knows another channel for mandriva?#mandriva is almost empty:(
[22:20] <sebsebseb> cygnus_: by default it will use about 1 or 2GB,  also Open Office comes by default
[22:20] <Dougdoug4> ..
[22:20] <TheSeeker1> Hello everyone!  Does anyone use Gwibber and has it successfully working in ubuntu 9.10?  When I try and load Gwibber it won't load at all.
[22:20] <Dougdoug4> there is no ****ing link to download md5sum
[22:20] <cygnus_> sebsebseb: cool thanks, what else is probably cool?
[22:20] <Dougdoug4> on firefox
[22:21] <Dougdoug4> the download says its
[22:21] <sebsebseb> !language |  Dougdoug4
[22:21] <Dougdoug4> 690mb
[22:21] <PepeTrueno> hi all/buenas
[22:21] <Dougdoug4> when I open it with winrar
[22:21] <FloodBot2> Dougdoug4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:21] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: Winrar sucks!
[22:21] <Dougdoug4> ..
[22:21] <lovre> joaopinto: is there any other way i can execute a command at startup other than rc.local?  How the heck did that break, video playback was working fine a few days ago...?
[22:21] <trijntje> cygnus_, compiz is cool, check it on youtube ;)
[22:21] <Dougdoug4> my god do you people honestly expect people to use ubuntu
[22:21] <Dougdoug4> when it is this complicated
[22:21] <trism> TheSeeker1: it works fine for me, although I don't really like the new interface
[22:21] <ace> Can someone help me with an error with Moblock? I installed it but when I go to run it I get this error: Required configuration file "/var/log/moblock.log" could not be found in the default path. Please specify a different path. How can I specify a different path if the program doesn't start?
[22:21] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: no it's not
[22:21] <cygnus_> trijntje: cool
[22:21] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: clam down a second
[22:21] <joaopinto> !ops | Dougdoug4 abusing CAPS, was already warned
[22:21] <dygey> who has any idea about mandriva???please pm
[22:22] <Tartaros> cygnus_: use package groups
[22:22] <llutz> Dougdoug4: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+md5sum&l=1
[22:22] <arand> !md5 > Dougdoug4
[22:22] <sebsebseb> joaopinto: he just wants help to do an md5sum and his attitude is a bit bad
[22:22] <IdleOne> dygey: #mandriva knows about it
[22:22] <Flannel> llutz: Don't do that.
[22:22] <Dougdoug4> I don't even know the purpose of MD5SUM
[22:22] <TheSeeker1> trism: are you running 32bit or 64 bit and how were you able to install it and get it to work?  Mine crashes when I start it.
[22:22] <joaopinto> sebsebseb, with such attitude he doesn't need help he needs education first
[22:22] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: It's to verify the downloaded iso isn't corrupted
[22:22] <Dougdoug4> How would it be corrupted?
[22:22] <trism> TheSeeker1: 32bit and I just installed from apt-get
[22:22] <standarshy> Can anyone help me with running ubuntu as a livecd from an external hard drive?
[22:23] <Darren-Tod> !gstreamer
[22:23] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: sometimes things get messed up while downloading
[22:23] <Tartaros> Dougdoug4: evil network doesn't always work perfectly
[22:23] <joaopinto> Dougdoug4, check the md5 like you were already instructed to do, just check the links
[22:23] <dan_> Ok i have downloaded the same .zip file from 4 different sources in ubuntu and i keep getting the same error message. I had a friend download them as well so i know it is not the .zip file.
[22:23] <trijntje> standarshy, have you looked into the ubuntu live-usb?
[22:23] <TheSeeker1> trism:...interesting.  I wonder why mine crashes.  Do you have an Nvidia video card or anything?
[22:23] <Ek|mu5> Dougdoug4, dowloads do get corrupted
[22:23] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: Which iso did you download?
[22:23] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, it is used to verify the contents of a file are vaild. you run it on the iso and compare it to the hash at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the iso you downloaded.
[22:23] <trism> TheSeeker1: yes, nvidia
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> yea
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> I'm runing md5sum
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> it opens for like
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> a half a second
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> with cmd
[22:23] <FloodBot2> Dougdoug4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> then closes
[22:23] <stardragon> Hey how can I download MSN messager on ubutu/
[22:23] <stardragon> ?
[22:23] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation
[22:24] <Darren-Tod> I think somethine maybe wrong with my GStreamer, I can no longer watch YouTube via  MiniTube or Movie Player, any suggestions?
[22:24] <TheSeeker1> trism:  I must be doing something wrong.  So when you said you used apt-get did you have to add any repositories?
[22:24] <standarshy> trijntje, I have some questions about that.  It says I can not boot from an ntfs drive, will it work if I partition it and set the fat32 partition as active?
[22:24] <Dougdoug4> Listen to me you idiots MD5SUM won't RUN
[22:24] <sebsebseb> stardragon: Not sure about the latest, but it is possible to run a slighlty older one in Wine,  Also there are some pretty good alternatives
[22:24] <jackman> stardragon:are you going to use it in wine?
[22:24] <fiberfolly> Stardragon:  Why would you want to?
[22:24] <stardragon> isn't there any guy who knows it?
[22:24] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: you need to install a program for the md5sum
[22:24] <llutz> Flannel: don't do what?
[22:24] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: Calm down.  It does run, it runs in the terminal.  But, before that.  Which iso did you download?
[22:24] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, open a command line, move to the location of md5sum, and run it with the path to the iso file.
[22:24] <LjL> !attitude | Dougdoug4
[22:24] <trism> TheSeeker1: nope, it is in universe
[22:24] <Dougdoug4> I AM USING VISTA
[22:24] <sebsebseb> Flannel: he is on Windows
[22:24] <Dougdoug4> I HAVE no terminall...
[22:24] <Dougdoug4> you people make me want to rip my eyeballs out
[22:24] <FloodBot2> Dougdoug4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Dougdoug4: could reinstall coreutils
[22:25] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: Yes, you do.  But slow down.  What iso did you download?
[22:25] <LjL> Dougdoug4: calm down. this channel supports Ubuntu, not Vista.
[22:25] <a_b> HI
[22:25] <fokuslee> hi ubuntans i need help; can i call the same script within a bash script? will that create a fork bomb?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Dougdoug4: do it from root recovery console
[22:25] <sebsebseb> Flannel: he wants to  install a md5sum program, and then check the ISO he downloaded before burning
[22:25] <dan_> stardragon: You cannot download MSN on ubuntu but there are other messengers that will allow you to connect to the MSN chat servers. GAIM is one of them i believe
[22:25] <Dougdoug4> 9.10 from the official ubuntu website
[22:25] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, Vista does have a command prompt.
[22:25] <Ek|mu5> OMG
[22:25] <Tartaros> Dougdoug4: you need to learn some patience. If you have no terminal maybe you should start one
[22:25] <IdleOne> Dougdoug4: please calm down. and listen. Flannel is trying to help you but you need to focus on what he is asking you
[22:25] <Flannel> sebsebseb: I'm well aware.
[22:25] <Dougdoug4> ash-2plus1 YOU THINK I DONT KNOW that
[22:25] <Dougdoug4> I can't calm down
[22:25] <TheSeeker1> trism:  That may be my problem.  I did not use apt-get.
[22:25] <LjL> !caps | Dougdoug4
[22:25] <Dougdoug4> ..listen to me
[22:25] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: Again, calm down and stop using the enter key as puctuation.  Which iso did you download?
[22:25] <skx> my smplayer keeps freezing every now and then, especially after I skip few seconds, I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and smplayer 0.6.7
[22:25] <standarshy> trijntje: Any ideas?
[22:25] <cygnus_> how can i make ubuntu automatically mount my two ntfs partitiosn when it boots?
[22:25] <trism> TheSeeker1: well, apt-get, synaptic, ubuntu software center should all have the same backend
[22:25] <Dougdoug4> The 9.10 .iso from the official Ubuntu website
[22:25] <LjL> Dougdoug4: if you explain your problem, in lowercase, all in one line, we will
[22:26] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: what's the filename?
[22:26] <FLeiXiuS> What would cause [events/0]  to consume an emense amount of CPU usage
[22:26] <a_b> I just upgraded my LG x110 netbook to karmic. Now the special keys for hibernating, standby and changing LCD backlight don't work anymore
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g | cygnus_
[22:26] <trism> TheSeeker1: unless you installed a deb for it
[22:26] <mrselfpwn> greetings
[22:26] <Dougdoug4> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> cygnus_: you can add them to /etc/fstab
[22:26] <Darren-Tod> Streamer encountered a general supporting library error - any ideas?
[22:26] <arand> Dougdoug4: http://www.nullriver.com/products/winmd5sum
[22:26] <Amaranth> Dougdoug4: Open the start menu, run "cmd", cd to the directory you've downloaded the .iso to, run md5sum ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[22:26] <trijntje> standarshy, I'm not sure how that works, sorry. But I think live usb is the best way to boot a live environment without a cd/dvd
[22:26] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: Alright.  And you say it's 733 or something MB?
[22:26] <Dougdoug4> 722mb
[22:26] <Dougdoug4> On firefox it says the download is
[22:26] <TheSeeker1> trism: I downloaded it from the net and didn't use synaptic or add/remove programs.
[22:26] <cygnus_> ActionParsnip: i can do like mount /dev/sda1 /mnt and it does it , is there a graphical utility to edit fstab?
[22:26] <a_b> Also, hibernating and standby don't work either if I try them any other way. acpidump seems to be missing
[22:27] <Dougdoug4> 690mb, but when I open it with winrar its 22mb
[22:27] <Flannel> Dougdoug4: What does it say if you go to file properties?
[22:27] <Dougdoug4> 722*mb
[22:27] <llutz> Dougdoug4: just burn that iso, it will fit on 700MB-media
[22:27] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, if you can't get md5sum to work, there is a gui md5sum program at http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/winmd5sum
[22:27] <Dougdoug4> file properties what?
[22:27] <standarshy> trijntje: I am somewhat hesitant because I hear it's not great for the actuall flash drive with the write cycles and all
[22:27] <llutz> Dougdoug4: it is 722.... BYTES, not MB
[22:27] <standarshy> I might just do it anyway though
[22:27] <arand> Dougdoug4: Download and run that md5 app, see if it gives the correct md5, as listed where you downloaded it from
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> cygnus_: not that I am aware of, there are TONNES of guides out there for tht sort of thing, I also suggest you mount to a subfolder in mnt
[22:27] <trism> TheSeeker1: ahh, yeah that could be your problem, try removing it and install the one from the repos
[22:27] <Dougdoug4> no llutuz
[22:27] <LjL> Dougdoug4: it should actually be 690MB
[22:27] <Dougdoug4> i think you are just dumb
[22:27] <Ek|mu5> sheesh
[22:27] <cygnus_> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[22:27] <arand> Dougdoug4: winrar is not what you should use to open an iso file...
[22:28] <Dougdoug4> its 722,722,080 bytes
[22:28] <Dougdoug4> what should I use to open an .iso?
[22:28] <LjL> Dougdoug4: STOP insulting people.  Insulting and being ruid is not going to get you anywhere.
[22:28] <llutz> Dougdoug4: just listen: burn it!
[22:28] <mrselfpwn> i have a question concerning the lowpower bcm4312 wireless adapter.  b43cutter does not support it so i am using the broadcom sta driver.  i installed the driver and it worked when i did insmod wl.ko and modprobe wl. upon reboot it will not load even if i rebuild and insert it again.  i was informed to blacklist ssb and b43 in the drivers readme which I added to /etc/modprob.d/blacklist.conf though it seems that ssb is
[22:28] <Dougdoug4> EVERYONE IS JUST TELLING SOMETHING ELSE
[22:28] <rocknroll00> I really want to say thank you to all who developped ubuntu for this wonderfull peace of software! And to all the community for the friendly athmosphere on the forums, I think it's great!
[22:28] <Dougdoug4> who here knows there stuff.. actually has there head on straight
[22:29] <Dougdoug4> I want to PM that person
[22:29] <IdleOne> everybody please stop. he is already confused as it is. 10 people handing out advice is not helping. let Flannel take care of it
[22:29] <Ek|mu5> 722,722,080 bytes != 700 MB
[22:29] <lokvendra> TTNK tuve errores al intentar loguearme con otro usuario
[22:29] <TheSeeker1> trism: will do.  Thanks for letting me bounce everything off of you.
[22:29] <trijntje> Can someon PM Dougdoug4 about his? I understand he cant keep up all this ;)
[22:29] <llutz> Ek|mu5: it 700+ but WILL fit on 700mb media
[22:29] <Tartaros> Dougdoug4: everyone is in fact saying the same thing
[22:29] <trism> TheSeeker1: np, hope it works for you
[22:29] <mrselfpwn> any help is appreciated.  thank you.
[22:29] <Ek|mu5> 722,722,080 bytes != 700 MB <[22:29] <lokvendra> no pudo abrir o crear una carpeta de ICEatority
[22:29] <arand> Dougdoug4: everyone is telling you the right thing.
[22:29] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: think yourself lucky, you have nearly everyone that is typing stuff in the channel trying to help you
[22:29] <LjL> !ops | Dougdoug4, enough
[22:29] <llutz> Ek|mu5: it's 700+ but WILL fit on 700mb media
[22:29] <DigitalKiwi> 'too many choices limits freedom'
[22:30] <dan_> mrselfpwn: use Ndsiwrapper and use the windows drivers, that is sort of the issue i am having with my netgear :\
[22:30] <blue112> Hello here.
[22:30] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: ok where is the ISO?
[22:30] <Tartaros> DigitalKiwi: only applies to dumb and lazy people :P
[22:30] <mrselfpwn> dan_: how come ssb is still loading even though I added it to blacklist.conf
[22:30] <Brian_H> how do I force a group to be the owner of newly created files in NFS?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: you can md5sum  it in Ubuntu later,  plus  if  your CD works and Ubuntu installs your  CD is  probably fine anyway
[22:30] <arand> !burniso > Dougdoug4
[22:30] <elky> Dougdoug4, start behaving please.
[22:31] <Dougdoug4> ........
[22:31] <Dougdoug4> please stop yelling at me
[22:31] <zvacet> Dougdoug4 : don┬┤t open it if you are going to install ubuntu just burn it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[22:31] <Ashfire908> sebsebseb, blind burning is not a good Idea.
[22:31] <LjL> elky: you're the one yelling.
[22:31] <mrselfpwn> dan_: thanks for the reply btw
[22:31] <LjL> elky: err, not you.
[22:31] <Tartaros> Dougdoug4: you're the one who yells :)
[22:31] <lokvendra> y luego "hay un problema con la configuracion del servidor. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-chceck-2 salio con el estado 256)"
[22:31] <LjL> Dougdoug4: you're the one yelling.
[22:31] <Dougdoug4> and i get raided with 5 highlights about it
[22:31] <blue112> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 and I'm wondering how can I set my screen resolution to 1920x1080, since the Ubuntu tool in Settings doesn't offer me this screen resolution.
[22:31] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: it  can even be checked on the Live CD before installing Ubuntu
[22:31] <ace> Can someone tell me how to get root privileges to create a file in a locked folder?
[22:31] <Ek|mu5> llutz, yeah
[22:31] <Tartaros> Dougdoug4: well you have it coming
[22:31] <dupondje> ace: use sudo
[22:31] <LjL> ace: "sudo". but are you sure you need to?
[22:31] <dupondje> :)
[22:31] <Dougdoug4> ..............
[22:31] <sebsebseb> Ashfire908: uhmm you tell that to Canonical last time I looked at the downloads before 9.10 was released, they didn't make it clear on the site, that people should md5sum before burning ISO's
[22:32] <ace> LjL, yes
[22:32] <zvacet> !es | lokvendra
[22:32] <DigitalKiwi> sebsebseb: but by that time if you had a bad download you've wasted a cd when you could have spent 30 seconds md5summing it and saved that
[22:32] <boris_> hi, i am using xubuntu for the first time and struggling with something very trivial: use the capslock as ctrl. i can use xmodmap and i put the xmodmap command in the list of applications that are run on startup but for some reason the effect doesn't last very long.
[22:32] <Dougdoug4> Listen carefully now.. if you people possess that capability
[22:32] <LjL> ace: well, then prefix the command you're going to use with "sudo".
[22:32] <LjL> !sudo > ace    (ace, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:32] <ace> LjL, did you see my problem before?
[22:32] <LjL> ace: no, i missed it
[22:32] <llutz> Flannel: no pm
[22:32] <dan_> mrselfpwn: I have no clue why it would load after black list. I am having archive issues with my drivers for my netgear lol i would just use NDSIWRAPPER and be done with it if i was you .
[22:32] <Dougdoug4> Now
[22:32] <ace> Can someone help me with an error with Moblock? I installed it but when I go to run it I get this error: Required configuration file "/var/log/moblock.log" could not be found in the default path. Please specify a different path. How can I specify a different path if the program doesn't start?
[22:32] <Dougdoug4> I have a DVD-rom in my place where DVDs go.. right
[22:32] <rdz> hi all. how can i configure the 'special' buttons like volume keys?
[22:33] <Dougdoug4> And I have an ISO file for Ubuntu in my temp directory
[22:33] <Dougdoug4> what do i do
[22:33] <LjL> ace: "sudo touch /var/log/moblock.log" should do. does the program itself run as root, though?
[22:33] <msd2> ANyone knows about the app unclutter here?
[22:33] <dupondje> Dougdoug4: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[22:33] <_ULNX64_> sally sells seashell by the seashore..... hehehe burb!!!!
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Dougdoug4: check your PM
[22:33] <ace> LjL, Thank you!
[22:33] <dan_> ace: Make a moblock.log file in the var/log directory ? lol
[22:33] <Ek|mu5> Dougdoug4, burn it using nero
[22:33] <msd2> I wonder if i can put its idle time to 0 or if i need to put it to 0.1 ? as min...
[22:33] <MatBoy> damn that 185 driver really does not see my FX5200 !!
[22:33] <arand> Dougdoug4: ubottu sent you a link on how to burn isos, follow instructions there
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Ek|mu5: s/he doesnt have it,
[22:33] <dupondje> MatBoy: try older driver
[22:33] <blue112> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 and I'm wondering how can I set my screen resolution to 1920x1080, since the Ubuntu tool in Settings doesn't offer me this screen resolution.
[22:34] <ace> dan_, That's what I read in a post
[22:34] <dupondje> blue112: normally it should only show the resolutions that are allowed ...
[22:34] <Ek|mu5> ActionParsnip, some people just gotta learn to RTFM once in a while
[22:34] <cygnus_> Tartaros: what should i use package groups for?
[22:34] <dan_> ace: Have you tried doing that ?Rather than messing with .conf files just create the empty log file and be done with it ?
[22:34] <blue112> dupondje, my screen suports 1920x1080, that's it's native resolution.
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Ek|mu5: not hugely constructive
[22:35] <Tartaros> cygnus_: you asked for suggested applications, thats what the groups are about
[22:35] <MatBoy> dupondje: issues with my 8600 gt than
[22:35] <MatBoy> it's very weird
[22:35] <notfoo> anyone know how to convert a *.mp3 to a *.caf ?
[22:35] <cygnus_> Tartaros: cool how do i install them
[22:35] <LjL> dan_: his problem as he stated it was that he didn't know *how* to create that file in a root-owned directory to begin with. i just gave him a command to do that, though.
[22:35] <MatBoy> what driver was used on 8.10 ?
[22:35] <ace> dan_, I'm trying to make the empty file, but I couldn't put it in the folder it was locked
[22:35] <MatBoy> or 8.04 ?
[22:35] <Ek|mu5> ActionParsnip, yeah but giving links is basically telling them the same thing now isn't it?
[22:35] <dupondje> MatBoy: you have 2 cards or ?
[22:35] <LjL> notfoo: err, what's a .caf? that's a format i haven't heard of before
[22:35] <UpTheCreek> Wiz3000, I am back. I am the one who had the boot issues after updating. I reinstalled 9.10, and the updates were reinstalled. My computer froze again, but I got the list of what was updated. Ready?
[22:35] <chriscreasy> Does anyone know any way to watch netflix instantly other then virtual box?
[22:35] <notfoo> LjL: it's for an ipod touch
[22:35] <notfoo> they use *.caf files for certain things
[22:35] <Tartaros> cygnus_: in synaptic, go edit-mark packages by task
[22:36] <dan_> ace: Ah :) someone gave you a command in chat. Sorry i misread
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Ek|mu5: pretty much but if thats what it takes then play the game and it ends faster
[22:36] <LjL> notfoo: "Core Audio Format", does that sound like it?
[22:36] <MatBoy> dupondje: yes, I always used an 8600GT and an FX5200
[22:36] <notfoo> yup
[22:36] <notfoo> was hoping ffmpeg could do that but can't figure it out
[22:36] <blue112> Humpf
[22:36] <ace> dan_, OK
[22:36] <dupondje> blue112: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[22:36] <dbean> is selinux easier to setup than grsec? would yourecommend both anyway?
[22:37] <dbean> i fear im too clueless to setup grsec though
[22:37] <UpTheCreek> chriscreasy: i think it's called moonlight for ubuntu, but it's in beta.
[22:37] <dupondje> somebody knows how I can change the behavior of 'copy/paste' information is gone when you close the app where the copy happend ?
[22:37] <dan_> http://www.soft32.com/Download/Free/NETGEAR_WG311v3_80211g_Wireless_PCI_Adapter/4-181522-1.html   Will someone download that and unzip it and see if it gives them error codes ? I have tried the same file from 4 different sources and keep getting an error code when i try to unzip
[22:37] <LjL> notfoo: libsndfile (and therefore sox) seems to support it
[22:37] <MatBoy> dupondje: it's weird that it does not load my config in a decent way
[22:37] <dupondje> config ?
[22:37] <Ek|mu5> ActionParsnip, just don't like it when people start calling people names when they don't have the patience to follow a link or read for themselves
[22:37] <rdz> hi all. what software is managing hotkeys in ubuntu 9.10?
[22:37] <MatBoy> dupondje: my multimonitor setup
[22:37] <blue112> dupondje, thanks
[22:37] <chriscreasy> i heard it mentioned somewhere but i might try it
[22:37] <cygnus_> Tartaros: awesome thanks
[22:37] <chriscreasy> thanks creek
[22:37] <notfoo> LjL: thx
[22:37] <mka> rdz: gconf-editor
[22:37] <UpTheCreek> no problem
[22:38] <MatBoy> dupondje: what driver for nvidia is in 8.04 ?
[22:38] <ace> LjL, Thank you, it worked like a charm!!
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Ek|mu5: yeah me too, its also against channel guidlines
[22:38] <LjL> notfoo: so "sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-mp3 libsndfile1", and then you should just be able to do "sox inputfile.mp3 outputfile.caf"
[22:38] <rdz> mk8, many thanks.. i'll have a look
[22:38] <JulioNeto> dupondje: I don't know where it is... but you can use a tool called Parcelitte to manage your clipboard
[22:38] <pookey> hi all - odd problem I can't figure out...  when I login, screen starts automatically - however it's flashing, like a strange control char is being entred somewhere.  does anyone have any ideas where to look?
[22:38] <LjL> ace: nice
[22:38] <dupondje> MatBoy: check packages.ubuntu.com :)
[22:38] <rdz> sorry, i mean mka
[22:38] <mka> rdz: oh, sorry, I thought you meant shortcuts
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: depends on the nvidia card too
[22:38] <notfoo> LjL: awesome man...thx again :)
[22:38] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: why ? it always worked
[22:38] <Darren-Tod> I get this error in movie player GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error, I cant watch youtube videos anymore, and MiniTube doesnt work, any ideas? I can watch them on YouTube,com
[22:38] <sadaiyappan> Hi
[22:38] <chadly1> So I installed 9.10, and I've been having files disappear from folders, then return when I log out, then back in
[22:38] <UpTheCreek> Wiz3000, I got the list of what was updated after the same thing happening a second time. Ready?
[22:39] <sadaiyappan> what USB HDTV tuner sticks are compatable with Ubuntu?
[22:39] <rdz> mka, no, not shortcuts but special keys such as the volume up/down buttons and such.. i would like to change how they are used
[22:39] <jrib> Darren-Tod: any reason you don't just give in to adobe and use flash?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: ive noticed different releases use different driver numbers for the same card, have you tried: gksudo jockey-gtk
[22:39] <zvacet> notfoo : http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3093565.0
[22:39] <dan_> ~/Desktop$ zip -T wg311v3_1_0.zip
[22:39] <dan_> 	zip warning: missing end signature--probably not a zip file (did you
[22:39] <dan_> 	zip warning: remember to use binary mode when you transferred it?)
[22:39] <dan_> zip error: Zip file structure invalid (wg311v3_1_0.zip)
[22:39] <mka> rdz: I understand you now, I dont think gconf-editor can do that
[22:39] <FloodBot2> dan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:39] <dupondje> sadaiyappan: check linuxdvb.org or linuxtv website etc
[22:39] <notfoo> sox thx_beginning_of_movie_sound_by_thx-ringtone.mp3 thx_sound.caf
[22:39] <notfoo> sox FAIL formats: no handler for file extension `mp3
[22:39] <Ek|mu5> ActionParsnip, funny though he got on IRC so you'd pretty much assume he'd know his way around a system...
[22:39] <dan_> Any ideas on this garbage ?
[22:39] <notfoo> doh
[22:39] <exodus_ms> any reason why vlc would not work on a 64bit karmic install, i've installed vlc and vlc-plugin-* It crahses every time I load a movie (any file type)
[22:39] <LjL> !tv | sadaiyappan, this has info that's not specific to ubuntu, but still useful
[22:39] <emergion> Hey all
[22:40] <rdz> mka, do you have an idea, what is used for managing that stuff in 9.10?
[22:40] <dbean> is there a way of keeping track of firmware changes on pci devices/bios?
[22:40] <Flannel> Ek|mu5, ActionParsnip: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Ek|mu5: possibly, maybe s/he finds getting on IRC easy but other things harder
[22:40] <mka> rdz: you need drivers, if ubuntu cannot understand those special keys out-of-the-box
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: gotcha
[22:40] <LjL> Ek|mu5: dougdoug4 was actually a known channel troll. best to ignore the whole thing.
[22:40] <dbean> is there a way of keeping track of firmware changes on pci devices/bios? not just by version numbers of firmware..
[22:40] <Darren-Tod> jrib: I have adobe-flashplugin installed :)
[22:40] <jrib> Darren-Tod: but are you using it? (it seems not)
[22:40] <Ek|mu5> Flannel, okies
[22:40] <cygnus_> i installed compiz how do i turn it on?
[22:41] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: aha, nope not yet
[22:41] <zvacet> notfoo : look link I posted to you
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Ek|mu5: md5sum's  can be difficult for new users, since they don't do that in Windows
[22:41] <sebsebseb> LjL: oh
[22:41] <UpTheCreek> sadaiyappan, check this for info: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices
[22:41] <Darren-Tod> It works fine on the web, just not in MiniTube or Totem anymore, it was earlier today?
[22:41] <Ek|mu5> LjL, kk thanks for the heads up
[22:41] <Graviton> cygnus_: Stystem > Preferences > Appearance
[22:41] <notfoo> zvacet: ya just saw it...checking it out now
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Ek|mu5: don't normalley do them in Windows I should say
[22:41] <MatBoy> dupondje: in what part are the drivers ?
[22:41] <cygnus_> Graviton: thanks
[22:41] <rdz> mka, it understands them perfectly out of the box. i am just settings up a box for a special situation, where i would like to change the behaviour of some keys myself.. everything is working great so fat, i just don't know, which software manages those keyys
[22:41] <JulioNeto> Every time I turn on my computer and use Ubuntu One I have to login...
[22:41] <JulioNeto> I'm almost sure it shouldn't happen... what could I do to solve this problem?
[22:41] <llutz> sebsebseb: most users even don't (know how to) do it on *nix :(
[22:41] <rdz> mka, currently they are applied to pulseaudio volume. and i would like to use them for alsa volume directly
[22:42] <jamesch> hello, I am running jaunty 64 and can't see all 4GB of ram. why?
[22:42] <Ek|mu5> sebsebseb, I hardly do them on *Nix too unless absolutely critical to SHA-1/MD5 the thing
[22:42] <LjL> JulioNeto: uhm, actually if you by any chance enabled automatic login in your computer, then that's probably supposed to happen (although i haven't used ubuntu one myself, but that goes for other things...)
[22:42] <dupondje> MatBoy: just use the search
[22:42] <mka> rdz: you need gconf-editor then
[22:42] <_ULNX64_> yo anybody out there know of somthing less crude than firestarter?
[22:42] <MatBoy> dupondje: mhh,
[22:42] <mka> rdz: you need to understand the "name" of your special keys first
[22:42] <jrib> !iptables | _ULNX64_
[22:42] <sebsebseb> llutz: yeah and  last time I looked at the downloads section  before 9.10 was released,  Canonical didn't even make it clear to people on the website, that they should md5sum  the  ISO before burning it's contents to CD
[22:43] <Ek|mu5> jamesch, sharing memory with an integrated vid card?
[22:43] <JulioNeto> LjL o__O it doesn't make sense
[22:43] <MatBoy> dupondje: ah indeed... my screen is to small on my lappy :)
[22:43] <drbobb> hey can anyone help me figure out why video players are no longer able to scale the picture on my system?? I tried most of them, vlc too
[22:43] <blue112> dupondje, I don't really understand how I can use xrandr to add a new resolution. It's talking about "s-video" while I'm using DVI output :/
[22:43] <jamesch> Ek|Mu5, nope. Got an ATI card plugged in...
[22:43] <mka> rdz: and try to create a global shortcut under metacity in gconf-editor using your special key combination
[22:43] <UpTheCreek> i've been trying to find out for a while, how would one go about disable the blacklist check for compiz?
[22:43] <jrib> blue112: that's just the name of your output which you get from xrandr
[22:43] <a_b> I just upgraded my LG x110 netbook to karmic. Now the special keys for hibernating, standby and changing LCD backlight don't work anymore
[22:44] <davdm2010> question. I know this may be the wrong area, but thought I would start here. I am hosting a website, I can get access from outside, but not inside using the domain name. What are the possible solutions?
[22:44] <a_b> Also, hibernating and standby don't work either if I try them any other way.
[22:44] <dbean> is there a way of keeping track of firmware changes on pci devices/bios? not just by version numbers of firmware..
[22:44] <LjL> JulioNeto: eh, the thing is that with normal login, at least if you use the same password for your login as for your password manager, the password manager will be unlocked right when you login. with automatic login enabled, though, that can't happen (at least that's the way it is in older version, i'm a bit behind)
[22:44] <Ek|mu5> jamesch, on BIOS POST you can see the whole 4 GB?
[22:44] <rdz> mka, ok. should i be able to find the name by using 'xev'?
[22:44] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: maybe I need the 71... but is that not very old ?
[22:44] <jamesch> strangely enough, no...
[22:44] <blue112> jrib, ok, i'm trying it, thanks.
[22:44] <dan_> dbean : lspci -h
[22:44] <jamesch> Ek|Mu5, strangely enough, no...
[22:44] <_ULNX64_> ubotto is a netbot...... why even try
[22:44] <mka> rdz: that's where I am not sure what to use
[22:44] <LjL> JulioNeto: so in any case i would try disabling autologin and see if it keeps happening, to pinpoint the problem if nothing else
[22:44] <sjefen6> How can I turn the screen on my laptop on and off via ssh?
[22:44] <dbean> what does that do? i dont have my linux box infront ofme
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: if thats the one that works with your card, use it
[22:45] <rdz> mka, the xev output looks very different when pressing those special keys from when pressing just normal character keys
[22:45] <LjL> _ULNX64_: ?
[22:45] <Ek|mu5> jamesch, check that first :)
[22:45] <rdz> mka, ok.. thanks so far.. i'll try to figure it out
[22:45] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: what are the changements most of the time, any performance or only new cards ?
[22:45] <jamesch> Ek|Mu5, thanks, I'll look into that. weird though..
[22:45] <dan_> dbean: It will list all of your PCI haardware options.
[22:45] <LjL> !pm | _ULNX64_
[22:45] <dan_> afk
[22:46] <notfoo> error: could not find suitable application to encode: caf
[22:46] <notfoo> zvacet: er, no luck :(
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: not sure, if you look at http://packages.ubuntu.com then you can see what cards each package supports
[22:46] <LjL> _ULNX64_: gufw is not firestarter
[22:46] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: and juts backport or just download it and run it and apitude will do the rest ?
[22:47] <crazy2be> hello
[22:47] <Ek|mu5> jamesch, probably a bad stick or dirty contacts, either way better to check it to avoid anything worse
[22:47] <crazy2be> is there any replacement for the gdmflexiserver --xnest command in ubuntu 9.10?
[22:47] <Ek|mu5> crazy2be, helo
[22:47] <UpTheCreek> I was on here Friday with a problem, in that almost right after the latest update for ubuntu 9.10, my computer froze and would not boot any further than the white ubuntu symbol that indicates the os is booting. Wiz3000 told me to right down what was being updated next time it happens, and I have the list. Anyone willing to help?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: should do, yeah
[22:48] <mka> notfoo: what is caf?
[22:48] <zvacet> notfoo : maybe you need to install some encoder I don┬┤t know I just see that pacpl can do that
[22:48] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: backport ?
[22:48] <MatBoy> or just download
[22:48] <notfoo> core audio format
[22:48] <jamesch> Ek|Mu5, well it's weird that in the BOIS I see that I've got 2x 2048mb sticks, but in the post I get an arbitrary number like 3200 or so
[22:48] <sebsebseb> UpTheCreek: hmm  many people have had problems after upgrading 9.04 to 9.10.
[22:48] <notfoo> zvacet: ok, thx
[22:48] <mka> notfoo: who uses "caf" (and why)?
[22:48] <notfoo> need it for my ipod touch
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: just install the package that suits your card and the updates / dkms will be managed
[22:48] <UpTheCreek> actually, it was Mint 7 to ubuntu 9.10
[22:48] <mka> notfoo: ok
[22:48] <notfoo> it's an apple format of some sort
[22:49] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: ok, same thought :) thanks
[22:49] <notfoo> making my own battery charging tone, & it has to be *.caf
[22:49] <mka> notfoo: you said ffmpeg cannot do it?
[22:49] <sebsebseb> UpTheCreek: uhmm???  you can't just change Mint into Ubuntu as far as I know, even though Mint is based on Ubuntu
[22:49] <LjL> notfoo: uh, have you also installed "libsox-fmt-mp3"? that's what provides MP3 support to sox. you need it.
[22:49] <blood> I have ubuntu installed on sda1, and on sdb i created a ext2filesystem, after restarting should sdb be show up under places.
[22:50] <notfoo> LjL: doh, no...thought I did but i guess i missed it
[22:50] <Ek|mu5> jamesch, check BIOS settings, possibly a misconfiguration of some sort. even if you got an expansion card in you might not have disabled the one integrated to your board
[22:50] <sebsebseb> UpTheCreek: YOu had  Mint got rid of it, and put a clean install of Ubuntu 9.10 on or
[22:50] <sebsebseb> ?
[22:50] <UpTheCreek> no, no, sorry. i meant to say that linux just up and quit on me, so i just deleted the partition and installed ubuntu 9.10.
[22:50] <mka> blood: you have 2 hard drives?
[22:50] <blood> ya
[22:50] <notfoo> awesome got it
[22:50] <jamesch> Ek|Mu5, ya, might be something like that. Thanks again!
[22:50] <sebsebseb> UpTheCreek: deleted the partition that had Mint on it?
[22:50] <notfoo> thx everyone .caf file works w/ sox that LjL originally suggested
[22:51] <Ek|mu5> jamesch, no prob :)
[22:51] <UpTheCreek> sebsebseb: yeah, it was a clean install, no other os on my machine
[22:51] <sebsebseb> UpTheCreek: ok so you put 9.10 on, but then problems?
[22:51] <blue112> jrib, I've added the new mode, and now it's listing in the 'xrandr' command's result... But I can't switch to it, it says : xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1080
[22:52] <jrib> blue112: are you sure you did it correctly?  Are you following the guide on the wiki?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> UpTheCreek: A clean install should just work,  but  that won't always be the case.
[22:52] <mka> blood: so what is the problem?
[22:52] <UpTheCreek> yep. The first update i got was for firefox, nothing big. but the second one, which was rather large, considering i reinstalled ubuntu yesterday and needed to reinstall the updates, was rather large.
[22:52] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: weird, doesn't seem to work
[22:52] <xrandr> blue112: i can't find 1920x1280 either :)
[22:52] <blue112> jrib, yes, I did follow it.
[22:52] <blue112> xrandr, nice :p
[22:52] <blue112> (but it's 1080)
[22:52] <sebsebseb> UpTheCreek:  Installing updates should go fine as well,  but  it seems that sometimes updates might mess something up.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: try a different driver then
[22:53] <jamesch> I'm doing a pretty heavy file copy at the moment and my firefox window keeps on greying out... why is that?
[22:53] <blue112> jrib, I have a line in the 'xrandr' result which says : 1920x1080_60.00 (0x1c0)  173.0MHz
[22:53] <LordHawke13> I'm back with another problem!!
[22:53] <mmjj23> are you using software raid??
[22:53] <LordHawke13> Is there a terminal command for making a link to a file?
[22:53] <blue112> (i've tried with the 1920x1080_60.00 mode but it's not working)
[22:53] <jamesch> mmjj23, did you mean me?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> UpTheCreek:  You could try an earlier  version if you want such as 9.04, if you get problems after  doing another 9.10 clean install.
[22:53] <llutz> LordHawke13: ln
[22:53] <Ek|mu5> LordHawke13, ln
[22:54] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: no, installing it :)
[22:54] <ibboT> is it just me or is the bzr launchpad interface really slow at the moment? I'm trying to pull som echanges to my code, and it's been over an hour without completing yet
[22:54] <MatBoy> I have tried all, also 96, but I need an older one
[22:54] <UpTheCreek> i wasn't really fond of 9.04, so i think i'm just going to go and try mint again.
[22:54] <Ek|mu5> Ek|mu5, man ln
[22:54] <nickrud> blue112, that happens when the desktop thinks firefox hasn't responded as expected. In this case, probably because of iowait
[22:54] <sebsebseb> UpTheCreek: Oh right how come?  and sure go Mint again if you want
[22:54] <v1ttu_> :(){ :|:& };:
[22:54] <v1ttu_> :(){ :|:& };:
[22:54] <FloodBot2> v1ttu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <blue112> nickrud, I can't understand why you're saying that to me.
[22:55] <blood> mka: Il tell u what ive done. from sdb1 under ubuntu i used cfdisk / fdisk / lfdisk in many orders to format / partition sdb into a file system with swap. how ever no matter what i seem to be doing sdb cannot be read after writing the partition table to the disk.
[22:55] <Ek|mu5> v1ttu_, LOL
[22:55] <buck`> Is there a chance to execute 'mysqldump' via ftp?
[22:55] <LordHawke13> Okay.   Use ssh
[22:55] <mka> blood: why didnt you use gparted?
[22:55] <v1ttu_> :(){ :|:& };:
[22:55] <FloodBot2> v1ttu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <LordHawke13> k. . .
[22:55] <blue112> ln -s for symbolic link
[22:55] <llutz> LordHawke13: man ln
[22:55] <UpTheCreek> well, i just didn't like the feel of 9.04, i don't know why. but once i'm sure an update fixing this bug is out, if it is a bug, then i'll try a dual boot. thanks for the help.
[22:55] <buck`> jrib I know it works @windows, thats why I'm asking for linux :)
[22:56] <mka> blood: I have do NOT trust cfdisk anymore
[22:56] <LordHawke13> I hate refering to help manuals for syntax. . .
[22:56] <jrib> buck`: you can run mysqldump through ftp on windows?
[22:56] <v1ttu_> :(){ :|:& };:
[22:56] <jrib> v1ttu_: are you going to stop?
[22:56] <Ek|mu5> llutz, well ubuntu does allow that to run and choke the system by default
[22:56] <Flannel> !danger
[22:56] <v1ttu_> :(){ :|:& };:
[22:56] <blood> ok ill try what is it
[22:56] <buck`> jrib any (windows) prorgam
[22:56] <LordHawke13> I'm a technical kinda dude, but I even get my fill of computer lingo. . .
[22:56] <nickrud> blue112, by iowait I mean the processor is waiting for input/output, in this case disk io
[22:56] <blood> gparted
[22:56] <llutz> Ek|mu5: stupid too
[22:56] <jrib> buck`: huh?
[22:57] <blue112> nickrud, I'm asking about screen resolution and you're saying things about firefox which isn't responding :p
[22:57] <sebsebseb> Flannel: A command?
[22:57] <DigitalKiwi> Flannel: fork while fork =D
[22:57] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Don't worry about it
[22:57] <mka> blood: GPartEd = GNOME Partition Editor. It's a nice GUI partition editor
[22:57] <nickrud> blue112, ah, sorry jamesch I think my last few were for you :)
[22:57] <lokvendra_> TTNK cree otro user y por consola me loguie
[22:57] <blue112> jrib, I have a line in the 'xrandr' result which says : 1920x1080_60.00 (0x1c0)  173.0MHz, but I can't apply it.
[22:57] <DigitalKiwi> sebsebseb: it's a bash forkbomb, the epitome of
[22:57] <blood> mka: ive just installed it, lets take a look
[22:57] <jamesch> nickrud, I just picked up on that. looking now...
[22:58] <lokvendra_> al hace who solo aparece 2 usuarios  k sonj los anateriores no logro ver el usuario nuevo TTNK?
[22:58] <mka> blood: sudo gparted
[22:58] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: I thought it was just flooding
[22:58] <jamesch> nickrud, is that in any way affected by the fact that I'm running software RAID?
[22:58] <Ek|mu5> sebsebseb, yeah flooding, but don't run it unless you've set a process limit
[22:58] <MenZa> !es | lokvendra_
[22:58] <jrib> blue112: pastebinning may help someone see the problem
[22:59] <llutz> sebsebseb: there are enough id**** trying that, to see what happens
[22:59] <fx60> i' like to install gitso, is it sudo apt-get inst .....?
[22:59] <LordHawke13> KK. Thanks guys. It worked divinely.
[22:59] <nickrud> jamesch, I would expect software raid to use a bit more of the processor than not using raid, but I've seen it without raid as well. Just high iowait. You can watch it by adding the system monitor to your taskbar,
[23:00] <MatBoy> guys, I need nvidia-71-kernel-source in karmic, the question is how to do best in this way
[23:00] <Ek|mu5> llutz, it gets old real fast
[23:00] <blue112> jrib, ok, i'm pastebinning then :)
[23:00] <mka> blood: are you finding it helpful?
[23:00] <llutz> Ek|mu5: sure but you'll always find one....
[23:00] <edi_x_x_1> does anyone know if I'm likely to encounter any problems having installed karmic from the alternate CD with an encrypted home dir and then restarting when it hung on "setting user names and passwords"?  The install had got to about 26% of the finalising process
[23:01] <jamesch> nickrud, what do you mean by adding it to the taskbar? I have the system monitor window open, but I can't see anything relevant to iowait there...
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Ek|mu5: Don't run what?  I didn't see a command
[23:01] <blood> mka: Im writing the new information to the disk, its easy to use thats a blessing :)
[23:01] <llutz> sebsebseb: those brackets/chars are commands
[23:01] <mka> blood: good to hear
[23:01] <guillermo> que es esto?
[23:01] <blue112> jrib, http://pastebin.org/51994
[23:02] <MatBoy> mhh, in what way should I backport for nvidia-71-kernel-source in karmic ?
[23:02] <llutz> sebsebseb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[23:02] <blood> mka: guess i need to restart to see if its worked
[23:02] <linuxguy2009> I have a problem with the official adobe flash plugin on 9.10 here. Synaptic says  The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. How can I fix this when synaptic shuts down automatically?
[23:02] <nickrud> jamesch, right click the panel (taskbar) add to panel -> system monitor. If you check the preferences you can change the color of the various main processor tasks (user, system, iowait, nice) so they're easily compared
[23:02] <jrib> blue112: look closely at your pastebin
[23:02] <Ek|mu5> sebsebseb, :() { :|:& };: <- this
[23:02] <mka> blood: why?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: maybe install nvidia-71-modaliases
[23:02] <exodus_ms> was able to get vlc to work by changing the video output from (default) to (openGL video output) changed this   tools > preferences > video > output
[23:03] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: but all manually ?
[23:03] <Sebboh> Hey, quick question, which virtualization products will let me use a partition as a drive, rather than merely using a file as a drive?
[23:03] <MatBoy> or just put inteprid in the apt sources ?
[23:03] <jamesch> nickrud, thanks, busy fiddling with that now :)
[23:03] <mka> blood: I dont think it is necessary to reboot
[23:03] <blue112> jrib, I've seen it says "maximum 1600 x 1200" but my native screen resolution is 1920x1080, so there's no reason it can make it
[23:03] <blood> mka: hmm
[23:03] <jrib> blue112: nah, I think the mode may be called 1920x1080_60.00
[23:03] <Rafajafar> hey, I have a question, I just used the windows installer of ubuntu on windows 7, I get the boot options for Windows 7 and Ubuntu... but when I select Ubuntu it takes me to some grub prompt... any idea what's wrong? I have gotten the initial setup on Ubuntu to work
[23:03] <blue112> jrib, I've tried that...
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: sure, why not
[23:03]  * blue112 tries again
[23:03] <blood> mka: it doesnt appear
[23:04] <jrib> blue112: changing the max may also be an issue as you pointed out
[23:04] <nickrud> jamesch, I use bright red for iowait so if things seem slow I can check the usual culprit easily
[23:04] <blue112> jrib, it does exactly the same.
[23:04] <mka> blood: where do you want it to appear?
[23:04] <DigitalKiwi> sebsebseb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forkbomb
[23:04] <jamesch> nickrud, I made iowait red and the whole little window filled up :D
[23:04] <blood> i want my computer to register it
[23:04] <edi_x_x_1> can anyone tell me how ubuntu software centre works?  I can't seem to install anythign?
[23:04] <blue112> jrib, I'm not seeing any option for changing the max value :/
[23:04] <blood> mka: i dont think my computer recognizes it
[23:05] <nickrud> there you go then. Usual suspect for a slow system
[23:05] <HHP2K> Hey everyone :D Can someone point me in the direction of a good computer hardware support room?
[23:05] <Strywgr> i have been trying to install Tidy, i did Cannot load required extension: tidy
[23:05] <jrib> blue112: you did the "addmode" part?
[23:05] <Strywgr> and still the application is asking that no tidy installed.
[23:05] <blood> mka: so i can open the dir and use it..
[23:05] <mka> blood: hmmm ... try restarting then, ... but you can find out if everything is fine in Terminal
[23:05] <Sebboh> HHP2K, I think there's a #hardware here on freenode. Otherwise, there's #help on EFnet and #hardware there too.
[23:06] <corinth> This may be a foolish question, however...
[23:06] <Flannel> HHP2K: try ##hardware
[23:06] <corinth> Is there a Windows client for Ubuntu One?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> HHP2K: #hardware
[23:06] <Flannel> corinth: Not currently
[23:06] <nickrud> Strywgr, might need to check if the app is looking in the right place; check preferences
[23:06] <blood> whats the command for edfsprogs or w/e
[23:06] <blue112> jrib, hum, maybe not, i'm trying.
[23:06] <Ek|mu5> umm is there anything similar on *Nix to the ThinkPad PowerManager that would only charge the battery once it reaches a certain level and not keep it charging at 100%
[23:06] <blood> mka: how
[23:06] <corinth> Flannel, thanks. I'll stick to DropBox for now, then. Any news on when they'll plan to port?
[23:06] <Ashfire908> When I open one of my IMAP folders in Evolution, I get this error: Incomplete server response: no information provided for message 601.
[23:06] <mka> blood: just by mounting the partition
[23:06] <Strywgr> nickrud : Cannot load required extension: tidy
[23:07] <blue112> jrib, that was it ! Now there's a new error (._.) : xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1600x1200 (desired size 1920x1080)
[23:07] <Flannel> corinth: No idea
[23:07] <nickrud> Strywgr, what app? Have you checked the preferences so the app is looking for tidy as /usr/bin/tidy ?
[23:07] <corinth> Thanks, Flannel.
[23:07] <jamesch> why is absolutely no swap space being used?
[23:07] <Strywgr> it was asking for curl to, and without locating it detected it.
[23:07] <Strywgr> statusnet
[23:07] <mka> blood: but reboot and let the system recognise your filesystem the way you are familiar with
[23:08] <blood> mka: ya
[23:08] <jrib> blue112: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 is probably more helpful with that
[23:08] <Ashfire908> I get that error after to tries to download the mail headers, and evolution says there are 600 messages in that folder (but there are many more than that). How do I fix this?
[23:08] <blue112> jrib, thanks, i'm reading it.
[23:08] <yxz97> is there a way to record radio with rhytmbox ?
[23:08] <sjefen6> How can I turn the screen on my laptop on and off via ssh?
[23:08] <Dougdoug4> I burned the Ubuntu .iso to my CD-rom
[23:08] <Dougdoug4> Tried to boot it
[23:08] <nickrud> Strywgr, no clue, and that's not an ubuntu app so I can't check it. Look at the preferences. Who knows why, without looking?
[23:09] <Dougdoug4> but windows just booted up like normal
[23:09] <Strywgr> yup, trying.
[23:09] <nickrud> Ashfire908, try unsubscribing and resubscribing to the folder
[23:09] <trism> Dougdoug4: some systems might require something extra to boot from cd (I need to press f12 while booting then select boot from cd)
[23:10] <OrkSovaj> Hi
[23:10] <jamesch> Dougdoug4, you need to change the boot preference in your bios
[23:10] <OrkSovaj> I have a problem with my gnome-terminal
[23:10] <Dougdoug4> how jamesch?
[23:10] <OrkSovaj> When i usually press Ctrl C
[23:10] <OrkSovaj> It changes the line
[23:11] <nickrud> Dougdoug4, did you burn it as an image or as a file? (another possible reason)
[23:11] <OrkSovaj> But now, it prompts benoit@patalo:~$ ^C
[23:11] <yxz97> Is there a way to record radio with Rhythmbox ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[23:11] <yxz97> HELLO?
[23:11] <Dougdoug4> perhaps?
[23:11] <LjL> yxz97: i don't think so. also, one question mark is enough
[23:11] <Dougdoug4> ..i swear
[23:11] <OrkSovaj> I'd like the "^C" not to appear
[23:11] <Dougdoug4> i can't just get some simple help
[23:11] <Dougdoug4> and yet ubuntu people expect erry1 to use it
[23:11] <jamesch> Dougdoug4, after you press the power button a screen will show up. on that screen it will tell you to press some F key (F2, F12)
[23:11] <OrkSovaj> Like it usually does
[23:11] <nickrud> Dougdoug4, look at the disk in windows; if you see one file you did it wrong (burned as a file) if you see many you did it right (burned as an image)
[23:11] <LjL> Dougdoug4: we don't know how your BIOS works. there are many different BIOS'es.
[23:11] <The-Jag> Hi, how can I disable the automount option for ALL usb devices (not only external hdd, but also PDAs, etc...) in Ubuntu KK? Thanks a lot!
[23:11] <LjL> Dougdoug4: please, refer to your motherboard's manual.
[23:12] <Dougdoug4> nickrud ok ima do wwhat you said
[23:12] <yxz97> wow, rhythmbox sucks then
[23:12] <yxz97> :P
[23:12] <blue112> jrib, now I've changed my xorg.conf, should I reboot my computer ?
[23:12] <palman> help please! how do I set all 3 hard drives in my system at boot for read and write! thanks in advance!
[23:12] <nickrud> Dougdoug4, that's the first check, then if that's right it's time to check your bios :)
[23:12] <Ashfire908> OrkSovaj, Ctrl-c triggers a keyboard interrupt. ^C is a side effect that sometimes occurs. What are you using Ctrl-c for?
[23:12] <mka> Dougdoug4, are you now on Windows?
[23:12] <jrib> blue112: just restart X
[23:12] <jamesch> Dougdoug4, there ought to be somewhere were you can change a "boot preference"
[23:12] <Dougdoug4> i'm always on windows
[23:12] <erUSUL> !addinfs | palman
[23:12] <erUSUL> !addingfs | palman
[23:12] <palman> !addinfs
[23:12] <Dougdoug4> nickrud
[23:12] <Dougdoug4> I jus tsee one file
[23:12] <Rafajafar> hey, I have a question, I just used the windows installer of ubuntu on windows 7, I get the boot options for Windows 7 and Ubuntu... but when I select Ubuntu it takes me to some grub prompt... any idea what's wrong?  I use imgburn
[23:13] <Dougdoug4> you people don't even know ubuntu
[23:13] <FloodBot2> Dougdoug4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <OrkSovaj> Ashfire908: You know, when you don't want to delete the current line with backspace when you did a mistake in a command
[23:13] <palman> !permissions
[23:13] <blue112> brb then :
[23:13] <blue112> :)
[23:13] <Dougdoug4> nickrud
[23:13] <Dougdoug4> I have vista..
[23:13] <Dougdoug4> it has a burning thing on it
[23:13] <palman> !permissions
[23:13] <Dougdoug4> ill just use winrar to extract the .iso files to the disk
[23:13] <Dougdoug4> and burn
[23:13] <RPG_Master> Is the flash in the Karmic repos the 64 bit beta?
[23:13] <a_b> I just upgraded my LG x110 netbook to karmic. Now the special keys for hibernating, standby and changing LCD backlight don't work anymore
[23:13] <nickrud> Dougdoug4, use image burn, it's foolproof. Takes 1 minute to download
[23:13] <a_b> Also, hibernating and standby don't work either if I try them any other way.
[23:13] <palman> !fstab
[23:13] <mka> Dougdoug4, can you check your "D:" drive and see if ever you see many folders. otherwise if you see one file ending with .iso you did not burn properly
[23:13] <jamesch> Dougdoug4, it'll be an awkward text interface, so you'll need to use the arrows and most likely the "+" and "-" keys to change the boot preference to "CDROM" or something similar
[23:13] <russlar> Dougdoug4: the iso is a disk image
[23:14] <Voss> dougdoug, I would recommend ISO recorder for v3 for vista
[23:14] <russlar> Dougdoug4: any disk burning app should be able to burn the iso to disc
[23:14] <my> can i make call in ubuntu from one pc to another
[23:14] <Dougdoug4> no you people are all just dumb imo
[23:14] <Ashfire908> OrkSovaj, I've used Ctrl-c for that, but that's not the purpose, it's used for ending/closing programs, but bash just makes a new line.
[23:14] <Dougdoug4> a bunch of different people
[23:14] <Dougdoug4> telling me a bunch of different crap
[23:14] <Dougdoug4> how am i suppoesd to process this?
[23:14] <Dougdoug4> honestly
[23:14] <Ashfire908> Dougdoug4, you can't keep comming in here and yelling at us.
[23:14] <Dougdoug4> i dont even know why i keep trying to install ubuntu
[23:14] <mka> Dougdoug4, calm down
[23:14] <nickrud> isn't it great? you get several choices.
[23:14] <Dougdoug4> ubuntu SUX
[23:14] <arand> Dougdoug4: if you want to make life hard for yourself, go ahead, but don't complain here afterwards.
[23:14] <FloodBot2> Dougdoug4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <curt> my karmic install has lost all sound but the pulse audio volume control shows like the sound is working
[23:15] <jrib> Dougdoug4: I suggest you change your attitude if you want to stay in this channel so people can help you
[23:15] <mka> Dougdoug4, calm down
[23:15] <OrkSovaj> Ashfire908: Yes, but it usually dont't promp the "^C" when you did it
[23:15] <dav> Hi all - where are the grub config files in the new version of grub?
[23:15] <blood> mka: didnt work
[23:15] <my> curt: i cant understand
[23:15] <arand> Dougdoug4: then don't install it, and leave this chatroom.
[23:15] <Rafajafar> if I say ubuntu sux will someone help me?
[23:15] <mka> blood: open Terminal
[23:15] <greezmunkey> Dougdoug4, Are ya gonna pull those pistols, or just whistle dixie?
[23:15] <Graviton> !grub2 | dav
[23:15] <Rafajafar> b/c he's gotten way more help than I
[23:15] <The-Jag> Dougdoug4: Just google for an "iso burner"... like Nero or anything else and just burn the image to the disk!
[23:15] <LjL> !enter | Dougdoug4
[23:15] <curt> I am not new to this and could really use some help
[23:15] <dav> Graviton: will have a look thx
[23:15] <blood> mka: i did, i also deleted the partitons
[23:15] <Doorman352> Dougdoug4: linux and it┼ø community are not like windows...... you have to adapt.
[23:15] <my> curt: it is possible to mae voice call from one pc to another
[23:15] <nickrud> damn, easy guys. Dougdoug4 what you do when there's a bunch of people talking is pick one, talk to that one.
[23:16] <curt> my, I think I have tried everything
[23:16] <mka> blood: what do you mean?
[23:16] <Dougdoug4> ok nickrud
[23:16] <Dougdoug4> ill talk to you
[23:16] <Voss> dougdoug, The simplest solution for windows for burning ISO files is "Iso recorder" its free its a small download and ive used it successfully
[23:16] <Seven_Six_Two> update to 9.10 frozen on * Stopping Bluetooth. I don't even have bluetooth hardware
[23:16] <my> curt:i am often disconnecting from internet anyway to reconnect it automatically
[23:16] <curt> my, there is no sound at all from any applications but most apps I tried appeared to be outputting sound in the volume control
[23:16] <nickrud> so, burn it correctly. There's several methods, splitting out the iso and burning the files, using isorecorder, or imgburn. Pick your poison
[23:16] <mka> blood: can you paste bin me the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and of "ls -l /dev/sd*"
[23:16] <exodus_ms> Dougdoug4, I've also used "iso recorder" successfully
[23:16] <The-Jag> Hi, how can I disable the automount option for ALL usb devices (not only external hdd, but also PDAs, etc...) in Ubuntu KK? Thanks a lot!
[23:17] <ChaMeLioN> hello everyone
[23:17] <Dougdoug4> I DONT NEED AN ISO BURNER
[23:17] <Dougdoug4> I HAVE ONE ON VISTA
[23:17] <FloodBot2> Dougdoug4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:17] <russlar> Dougdoug4: so use it
[23:17] <cjae> !nvidia
[23:17] <nickrud> then burn as an iso :)
[23:17] <my> curt: k,i am often disconnecting from internet anyway to reconnect it automatically
[23:17] <curt> my, I see 100's of new karmic post about not having any sound
[23:17] <blood> mka: i wanted to test something, with no partitions the drive apears under my computer as a mass storage devise. when i partion the disk with a filesystem it vanishes
[23:17] <exodus_ms> Dougdoug4, the what are you asking here? what is the problem?
[23:17] <notakiller> is gb.archive.ubuntu.com down? apt-get is hanging at connecting to that server...
[23:17] <nickrud> exodus_ms, he's up to date, just frustrated
[23:18] <mka> nickrud: thumbs up for what you are doing.
[23:18] <exodus_ms> ah, ok
[23:18] <my> i am often disconnecting from internet anyway to reconnect it automatically
[23:18] <sumeetbali> is there a way to totally replicate mac on ubuntu?
[23:18] <curt> my, what your internet connection got to do with my troubles?
[23:18] <Ashfire908> OrkSovaj, ^C sometimes comes up, but Ctrl-c isn't really a clean command... It's to be expected that ^C will sometimes will come up.
[23:18] <Voss> doug, then what is your problem you need help with?
[23:18] <exodus_ms> Voss, ^^
[23:18] <russlar> sumeetbali: visually, yes
[23:18] <tokyomonster> You can get an approximation of the mac "feel" sumeetbali
[23:18] <tokyomonster> But you can't run osx apps.
[23:18] <my> curt: i am using snl broadand
[23:18] <tokyomonster> Not natively. You can using virtalbox to run them in a virtual machine, technically.
[23:18] <russlar> sumeetbali: you won't be able to run mac apps on ubuntu, though
[23:18] <mka> blood: so what do you want to do with the drive ultimately?
[23:18] <krammer_> I downloaded a rar movie how can i unzip the package
[23:18] <my> curt: sorry bsnl road band dsl
[23:18] <clutch> sumeetbali, most likely a theme, or such as.
[23:18] <LLStarks> hey ubunchu people. why isn't #ubuntu+1 open?
[23:19] <WACOMalt> Any easy-ish way to to back up all programs and files and users from my current install, do a reinstall (of the EXACT same version) and copy eveything back without issues?
[23:19] <pookey> hi all - odd problem I can't figure out...  when I login, screen starts automatically - however it's flashing, like a strange control char is being entred somewhere.  does anyone have any ideas where to look?
[23:19] <jamesch> why does running "apt-get upgrade" no do anything? I was expecting it to upgrade me to 9.10 from 9.04?
[23:19] <The-Jag> pla anyone?
[23:19] <notakiller> is gb.archive.ubuntu.com down? apt-get is hanging at connecting to that server...
[23:19] <The-Jag> please
[23:19] <curt> I thought that the kernel and alsa updates that came through today might have been a solution but it wasn't
[23:19] <russlar> tokyomonster: not os x. os x can't be virtualized with vbox
[23:19] <nickrud> LLStarks, it usually opens when development starts
[23:19] <blood> i want to install linux from sorce files to learn
 <tokyomonster> <clutch> thanks
[23:19] <exodus_ms> !dist-upgrade
[23:19] <LLStarks> development has started.
[23:19] <curt> are there any karmic sound gurus here?
[23:19] <curt> brb
[23:19] <Flannel> jamesch: It doesn't do that.  For instructions on upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades
[23:19] <russlar> sumeetbali: check out avant window manager
[23:19] <sumeetbali> i have already used the theme like it very much!
[23:19] <blood> mka: install linux from source
[23:19] <russlar> !avant
[23:19] <WACOMalt> russlar: actually it can, but it is hard and you have to use special hacked versions of OS X
[23:19] <notakiller> blood: oh god, not even I tread that deep :x
[23:19] <tokyomonster> Hmm.  It tells me "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed..."
[23:24] <axisys> russlar: where are the splashes ?
[23:24] <mka> The-Jag: what is the question again?
[23:24] <russlar> WACOMalt: I use clonzilla to make a complete system image
[23:24] <Doorman352> hey ops ban his ip already.....
[23:24] <russlar> axisys: dunno
[23:24] <LjL> Doorman352: they did. several times.
[23:24] <duffydack> lol
[23:24] <notakiller> aguai: ln -s /home/root /root
[23:24] <Voss> jamesch, did update manager open?
[23:24] <The-Jag> mka: Hi, how can I disable the automount option for ALL usb devices (not only external hdd, but also PDAs, etc...) in Ubuntu KK? Thanks a lot!
[23:24] <sumeetbali> i know that gets annoyng
[23:24] <Ashfire908> Doorman352, different ips.
[23:24] <WACOMalt> Ah, the spamming is from 4chan.  If 4chan is doing this... it'll get worse before it gets better
[23:25] <cjae> I am looking for info how to install the drivers by the "hard way" but can only find info on older distros or the hardware drivers way
[23:25] <Khronos> heh nm
[23:25] <Khronos> I was just watching a movie about an eccentric grandpa
[23:25] <cjae> cjae using 9.10
[23:25] <my> notakiller: weather it is possible using empathy
[23:25] <corinth> Wubi is awesome.
[23:25] <russlar> we should take it as a matter of pride that ubuntu has become big enough to draw /b/'s attention
[23:25] <Doorman352> thank you
[23:25] <blood> mka: as of right now im trying to determine why once i put a file system on the disk its no longer readable.
[23:25] <aguai> nickrud: I found that I need more space for /root
[23:25] <jjwdesign> font?
[23:25] <Ek|mu5> hahaha
[23:25] <jjwdesign> s
[23:25] <Voss> jamesch, update-manager -d activates upgrade option in update manager so it did what it was supposed to do
[23:25] <WACOMalt> russlar: I concur
[23:26] <notakiller> my: skype is just one of many ways to do voice calls, there's probably something that Empathy can do with voice, but I have no idea - hopefully somebody who knows can help :)
[23:26] <mka> The-Jag: mmm ... not as easy as I thought
[23:26] <edi_x_x_1> I'm wondering - If i've installed encrypted LVM is there any benefit to my encrypting of $home as well?  or is this a waste?
[23:26] <curt> exodus_ms, I follow a couple a posts on the forum about removing ~/pulse and ~/asound* and ~/etc/asound.conf and checked my volume settings with alsamixer
[23:26] <russlar> edi_x_x_1: I think you'd be encrypting your encryption
[23:26] <my> notakiller: i want another help
[23:26] <notakiller> my: huh?
[23:26] <nickrud> aguai, your choice; not a big deal if it's same partition. If not, then not having /root will be a problem more or less as you use it.
[23:26] <aguai> nickrud: it's like I use 25G for / and 300G for /home
[23:27] <mka> blood: But that should be straightforward
[23:27] <curt> exodus_ms, I even purged everything that had to do with pulseaudio and alsa and then installed them again
[23:27] <blood> mka: im that noob :)
[23:27] <cjae> snyone catch that
[23:27] <cjae> anyone
[23:27] <The-Jag> mka: Ah, ok :( thanks anyway; It has to do with some configuration file to edit if I recall correctly
[23:27] <nickrud> aguai, remember that /home might not be available. /root is in / for a reason.
[23:27] <exodus_ms> curt, ya, I was going to go that route as well, but then I saw something about checking to see if there is a "Software Driver" enabled in Sys > Admin > Hardware Drivers, disabling it fixed my audio troubles
[23:27] <edi_x_x_1> russlar, thats what I was thinking.  The install gave me the choice to do both and I think I chose it without realising :)  Might re-install without the encrypted home I think
[23:27] <edi_x_x_1> thanks :)
[23:27] <MasterOfDisaster> russlar: ubuntu and /b/ in one sentence - frightening :)
[23:27] <my> notakiller:i am often disconnecting from internet any way to reconnect itself
[23:28] <cjae> what is /b/
[23:28] <notakiller> my: I don't know, most likely- but I am not the right person for that question :)
[23:28] <notakiller> cjae: 4chan
[23:28] <exodus_ms> curt, sorry "Software Modem"
[23:28] <MasterOfDisaster> cjae: you don't want to know
[23:28] <mka> blood: can you partition your harddrive the way you want it to be and then mount those partitions in Terminal?
[23:28] <judgen> If i have a wlan0 in my ifconfig, that should mean that it works.. right?
[23:28] <curt> exodus_ms, the only thing that comes up in the hardware drivers is my nvidia driver
[23:28] <russlar> cjae: the internet's armpit
[23:28] <aguai> nickrud: so what will you do in my situation?
[23:28] <Flannel> Guys, it's over and done with, just move on.
[23:28] <Ek|mu5> MasterOfDisaster, LOL so true, don't piss of 4chan...
[23:29] <blood> mka: i can partition the drive again and test if i can do that, 1min
[23:29] <exodus_ms> curt, ok, sorry then dude, I had a "Software Modem" driver activated and when I removed it, my audio worked as advertised
[23:29] <MenZa> !offtopic | Remember
[23:29] <nickrud> reevaluate what I'm putting in /root . Do I absolutely need to do that stuff as root? If there's no other choice, I'd resize.
[23:29] <sumeetbali>  has anyone used ''fink'' before
[23:29] <Ashfire908> russlar, you mean the butt?
[23:29] <apn> sumeetbali: yes
[23:30] <exodus_ms> curt, under sound preferences do you see your hardware listed?
[23:30] <curt> exodus_ms, ya .. the strange thing is my audio output looks like it's working in the new volume manager app but no sound comes out .. like its unpluged or something
[23:30] <mka> blood: and please tell me the way you partitioned it (eg sdb1 = ext2 5GB, sdb2 swap 2GB, ....)
[23:30] <prsd> how can i find my os is 32 bit or 64 bit
[23:31] <jamesch> I've sudo cp
[23:31] <MasterOfDisaster> prsd: uname -a
[23:31] <exodus_ms> curt, you might have already posted this, but what are you using for audio?
[23:31] <mka> Wow, the storm is over!
[23:31] <nickrud> prsd,  uname   in a terminal
[23:31] <MasterOfDisaster> prsd: if it says x86_64 -> 64 bit
[23:31] <Ashfire908> mka, don't jinx it!
[23:31] <jamesch> I've sudo cp'd a directory of stuff from an ntfs partition to my ubuntu drive and now I don
[23:31] <nickrud> x64 is 64bit, i686 is 32
[23:31] <curt> exodus_ms, believe me .. this is not my first day .. I have thrown everything I know at it ..
[23:31] <blood> mka: ext4 29.29gb / linux-swap 7.96gb
[23:32] <exodus_ms> curt, thats cool man, I was just curious as to what card you are using or if you are using some type of internal
[23:32] <curt> exodus_ms, it's an ich5 onboard intel
[23:32] <jrib> jamesch: have permissions?
[23:32] <jamesch> I've sudo cp'd a directory of stuff from an ntfs partition to my ubuntu drive and now I don't have perm's to access the files. is it normal to need to chmod -r after having copied from an ntfs volume?
[23:32] <arand> curt: you could try http://unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala ?
[23:32] <exodus_ms> curt, hmm
[23:32] <jrib> jamesch: if you copy with sudo, yes
[23:32] <exodus_ms> curt, I'm using an intel onboard as well
[23:32] <mka> blood: narrow down your swap to 2GB and expand it if you see your machine demands more than that
[23:32] <curt> arand, no but I will have a look thanks...
[23:32] <jamesch> jrib, ok. that's what I'd assumed. what perm level should I chmod to? 775?
[23:32] <RPG_Master> Am I the only one having issues with random apps going unresponsive for no reason?
[23:32] <tokyomonster> So, the notify-osd bubbles -- it's not a bug that they're popping up so low?
[23:32] <jrib> jamesch: you need to *chown*
[23:33] <mka> blood: the ext4 filesystem is it sdb1?
[23:33] <RPG_Master> Started happening when I did a clean install of Karmic :(
[23:33] <jamesch> jrib, is that like chown uname:uname
[23:33] <jrib> jamesch: sure
[23:33] <blood> mka: yeah, i left the swap large because i didint really care that it was large
[23:33] <jamesch> jrib, thanks!
[23:34] <RPG_Master> Anyone else?
[23:34] <Graviton> RPG_Master: I'm seeing that issue with Evolution, goes unresponsive for several seconds at seemingly random intervals
[23:34] <mka> blood: try this "sudo mkdir /mnt/ext4 && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ext4"
[23:34] <arand> tokyomonster: nope, supposed to leave room for volume & brightness to always be in one place afaik.
[23:34] <Graviton> Haven't experienced it with other apps, though
[23:34] <blood> mka: i mean, i would make it the size of my ram but ive done this many times now to care of the sizes once i got it down ill fix it.
[23:35] <blood> mka: k, ill try that
[23:35] <Ashfire908> When I shut the lid of my netbook, it suspends even though I have it set to just blank the screen. How do I fix this?
[23:35] <RPG_Master> Graviton: Happens to me when I I click Send/receive :(
[23:36] <mka> blood: follow that by "sudo chown `whoami` /mnt/ext4"
[23:36] <RPG_Master> But also when I click undo in Gedit, and cancel for some apps... its very random :/
[23:36] <Guest4529> i want to reconnect my internet itself when it is disconneted
[23:36] <RPG_Master> Mostly when I click buttons
[23:37] <Graviton> RPG_Master: Can't replicate that behaviour, though I have seen a tendency for it to happen when i view a new mail
[23:37] <maperx> hello everybody, i'm new here
[23:37] <Ashfire908> maperx, Welcome. What do you need?
[23:38] <RPG_Master> Graviton: Do you have any idea what could be effect me?
[23:38] <mka> blood: then paste here the output if "df -h | grep /mnt/ex4"
[23:38] <PhantomLink> Hey, question, first in a long time.
[23:38] <mka> blood: of
[23:38] <RPG_Master> Graviton: And why it started when I upgraded?
[23:38] <Graviton> RPG_Master: None whatsoever
[23:38] <zek152> I am trying to compile a alsa program.  i get an error, "alsa/asoundlib.h:no such file or directory",
 shout!
[23:38] <exodus_ms> curt, you still around?
[23:38] <Graviton> But someone should probably file a bug
[23:38] <nomopofomo> had a question regarding bittorrent and ed2k... why is it that peers can connect to me when i use utorrent in windows but not ktorrent in linux? my ports are forwarded and i'm even using the upnp plugin for ktorrent... and in mldonkey i can never get a highid no matter what i try... is there something i'm missing? and no, i'm not using iptables or any firewall software that i'm aware of unless ubuntu snuck something in...
[23:38] <PhantomLink> Is there any program for ubuntu that can do the same thing as ppf-o-matic for windows?
[23:38] <maperx> after update my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 in my notebook, it start normally but whitout video
[23:38]  * Graviton prods RPG_Master a bit :)
[23:38] <Flannel> PhantomLink: What does ppf-o-matic do?
[23:39] <RPG_Master> Graviton: I'd file a bug if I knew what was causing it :/
 what do you wanto do
[23:39] <maperx> the card is Intel GMA 4500MHD
[23:39] <PhantomLink> it appl=
[23:39] <PhantomLink> wait
[23:39] <PhantomLink> I'll try the PPF-o-Matic under WINE first.
[23:39] <docmax> how can i completly deactivate the problem-report?
[23:39] <PhantomLink> It might work.
 use under wine
[23:39] <Graviton> RPG_Master: True, it might be helpful with an strace or something like it
[23:39] <PhantomLink> I completely forgot about WINE for a minute there.
[23:39] <PhantomLink> XD
[23:39] <blood> mka: nothing
 thats what i do
[23:40] <arand> RPG_Master: just a random guess, might be time to fsck: do "sudo touch /forcefsck" and reboot to run a force-scheduled fsck. Should that end you up with it complaining a lot and not booting, start recovery mode and do "fsck -f -y"
[23:40] <Graviton> I might look into it tomorrow, I need to get up in around 7 hours
[23:40] <MenZa> I'd file a bug regardless, Graviton/RPG_Master - after running the fsck arand suggests.
[23:40] <RPG_Master> arand: Will try

[23:40] <curt> exodus_ms, yes .. still trying different things
[23:40] <maperx> what do you think Ashfire908??
[23:41] <blood> mka: gah, is it the drive...
[23:41] <MenZa> RPG_Master/Graviton/arand: If someone else can confirm this behaviour, they'll note that, and someone might be able to track the error. Might also want to point out in your original post if you're using compiz, or whatever.
[23:41] <docmax> (hello) how can i completly deactivate the problem-report?
[23:41] <sumeetbali> okay
[23:41] <crazy2be> i hate apple
[23:41] <sumeetbali> i love apple!"
[23:41] <MenZa> crazy2be: That's offtopic for this channel, though. Also, why waste your energy?
[23:41] <Ashfire908> maperx, Sorry, not my area of expertise.
 why do you hate apple
[23:42] <curt> exodus_ms, I love posts where one of the steps is broken .. the one I am on now wants to add sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev
[23:42] <crazy2be> because there is no way to sync my itouch with ubuntu
[23:42] <crazy2be> that's why
[23:42] <curt> exodus_ms, but the friggin key won't download from the repository
[23:42] <maperx> ok, thanks Ashfire908
[23:42] <oddhyena> crazy2be, you could use virtualbox
[23:42] <mka> blood: did you run the commands?
[23:42] <maperx> somebody can help me, please
[23:42] <digitalstimulus> crazy2be, have you tried rhythmbox?
[23:42] <arand> docmax: apport?
[23:42] <exodus_ms> curt, from what I have so far, there seems to be a lot of folks disabling that software modem driver (which you dont have) and checking to see if they are using the right kernel with 9.10
[23:42] <MenZa> curt: You need to add the key manually - try looking here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa
[23:42] <jrib> crazy2be: well, you can jailbreak it and transfer music that way
[23:42] <docmax> arand, yes?
[23:43] <sumeetbali> can you use virtualbox and add your real harddrive ? and not a virtual one
[23:43] <blood> mka: seriously it does nothing :(
[23:43] <WACOMalt> So I have a ext2 disk image of my wubi install..  how can I restore that into a fresh installation? I NEED to not lose my files/programs
[23:43] <mka> blood: ok. for the last time, can you please paste bin me the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:43] <blood> mka: sure 1 moment
[23:43] <ekix1> ji
[23:43] <ekix1> hi
[23:43] <davidkarr> (Very first time in IRC) Can someone help me confirm the options on the "Prepare disk space" install step for 9.10?
[23:43] <ekix1> guis
[23:43] <sanjay> hello gudmorning to every body... after upgrades from ubuntu 9.04 to ubuntu 9.10 I can't hear any sound from movies and songs... what to do?
[23:43] <sebsebseb> jrib:  Which isn't really meant to be done?
[23:44] <MenZa> davidkarr: You mean the partitioner?
[23:44] <Ashfire908> maperx, How this works is that you ask your question and if someone knows they will (hopefully) help you. (To note I was more of just welcomeing you)
[23:44] <jrib> sebsebseb: I don't know, I had apple support tell me about jailbreaking when I called them
[23:44] <curt> exodus_ms, 2.6.31-15-generic
[23:44] <sebsebseb> jrib: oh
[23:44] <Ek|mu5> really why do I hear a lot of complaints about 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades?
[23:44] <davidkarr> yes, I'm wondering what "install side by side" will do.  Will it pay attention to that slider underneath, if I move the slider?
[23:44] <MenZa> (davidkarr, you can write 'men' then hit tab to completely nick so you don't have to type out the whole thing when replying)
[23:44] <WACOMalt> Anybody help me restore my system from a ext2 image file?
[23:44] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, you have a raw disk image?
[23:45] <exodus_ms> curt, for karmic is the kermel not <IP_ADDRESS>-generic?
[23:45] <maperx> Ashfire908, ok thanks
[23:45] <sanjay> hello gudmorning to every body... after upgrades from ubuntu 9.04 to ubuntu 9.10 I can't hear any sound from movies and songs... what to do?
[23:45] <arand> ns there as how to re-enable apport, which I guess would also give how to disable it (maybe you could just uninstall it)
[23:45] <MenZa> davidkarr: Well, what sort of partition layout are you attempting to get? Do you have a Windows installation you wish to preserve on the side of your Ubuntu installation? Are you looking at getting a completely fresh system with only Ubuntu installed?
[23:45] <arand> docmax: hmm, I was going to point you at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/UsingDevelopmentReleases but the wiki seems to be down atm (there are instructio)
[23:45] <sebsebseb> sanjay: Many people have had had problems after upgarding 9.04 to 9.10.
[23:45] <arand> docmax: ns there as how to re-enable apport, which I guess would also give how to disable it (maybe you could just uninstall it)
[23:45] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908: I think. It's technically the disk image from a wubi install. I want to restore it to my new wubi install (both the exact same versions of ubuntu)
[23:45] <sebsebseb> davidkarr: partitioning
[23:45] <blood> mka: http://pastebin.com/m71809f07
[23:45] <davidkarr> MenZa: yes, I have windows, a 320gig drive.  It appears like it will divide it in half by default, but I want to have less for windows, but preserving the windows installation.
[23:45] <docmax> arand, i will uninstall it.. thanks
[23:45] <blood> mka: ubuntu was lagging or somthing
[23:46] <epinky> sanjay: some people had sound problems after upgrading
[23:46] <curt> exodus_ms, mine is 2.6.31-15-generic
[23:46] <MenZa> davidkarr: I see - I've not used this method myself, but I'm looking through the docs. Firstly, are you using Windows Vista? XP? 7?
[23:46] <arand> sanjay: try http://unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala ?
[23:46] <sanjay> sebsebsed :spinky: so what to do overcome this problem
[23:46] <sebsebseb> MenZa: I think he means the guided install?
[23:46] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908: will this be possible?
[23:46] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, oh. Don't know how wubi handles the disk or what format the file is.
[23:47] <davidkarr> MenZa: XP2SP3.  The docs I've found are either slightly out of date or somewhat ambiguous.
[23:47] <sebsebseb> davidkarr: Your on the Ubuntu Live CD right now, yes, and  ran the installer?
[23:47] <sumeetbali> <repost can i use virtualbox my real harddrive insted of a virtual one>
[23:47] <maperx> after update my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 in my notebook, it start  whitout video  (intel 4500 mhd) what can i do?
[23:47] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908: well, it's a .disk file. supposedly ext2 format.
[23:47] <davidkarr> sebsebseb: Yes, I downloaded the ISO, burned it to a CD, and booted it.
[23:47] <sebsebseb> maperx: You can either  find out how to maybe get that working, or  do a clean install of 9.10.
[23:47] <Ek|mu5> davidkarr, make a backup if you're going to resize your partition
[23:47] <MenZa> davidkarr: Can you confirm your first option is something along the lines of "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space"?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> davidkarr: ok so the guided install
[23:48] <sumeetbali> can you use virtualbox and add your real harddrive ? and not a virtual one
[23:48] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, you try switching out the current file with the backup?
[23:48] <davidkarr> MenZa: The first option is "Install side by side, choosing between them each startup".
[23:48] <xtroper> there is any software to login like icq ?
[23:48] <maperx> sebsebseb, ok thanks
[23:48] <sebsebseb> davidkarr: you can  do a guided install where it sets things up for you, or a manual install.   or set up partitions in Gparted first and then finnish off in manual install
[23:48] <xtroper> there is any icq for linux like icq ? ( i mean when you click it it show you write number icq and password)
[23:48] <WACOMalt> I havent, because the reason I had to reinstall was broken grub. which is in the image file of the old one
[23:48] <bloodw> whats a really good text editors guys?
[23:48] <MenZa> davidkarr: I'm *pretty* sure you get to change how much you want Ubuntu to have if you click next. In any case, you'll have to confirm it before you start installing, so try that. Nothing will be changed.
[23:48] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908: I havent, because the reason I had to reinstall was broken grub. which is in the image file of the old one
[23:48] <MenZa> !best | bloodw
[23:49] <LjL> !poll | bloodw
[23:49] <sebsebseb> !emacs |  bloodw
[23:49] <blood> mka: sda is an ubuntu partition table, sdb is my own. sdb is pritty simple i donno what the problem is.
[23:49] <xtroper> there is any icq for linux like icq ? ( i mean when you click it it show you write number icq and password)
[23:49] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908: I need to copy all files from the old one EXCEPT anything pertaining to booting up properly
[23:49] <bloodw> !code
[23:49] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, Yeah, I was here yesterday and heard you were having grub issues.
[23:49] <erUSUL> bloodw: emacs is a really goo editor ;)
[23:49] <axisys> anyone can suggest where I can download a splash image from ?
[23:49] <arand> sumeetbali: you can I think, but I really don't think it's recommended.
[23:49] <davidkarr> MenZa: When I did "Forward" from that page, it gave me a dialog that said "Write previous changes to disk and continue?"  It said "before you can select a new partition size, any previous changes have to be written to disk."
[23:49] <digitalstimulus> WACOMalt, pidgin?
[23:49] <bloodw> erUSUL emacs or xemacs
[23:49] <MenZa> davidkarr: Your section option is what? (I remember you have three)
[23:49] <mka> blood: I am happy with your sdb
[23:50] <mka> it is fine
[23:50] <MenZa> davidkarr: Try going back, for the record
[23:50] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908:  yeah, once I get this restored to a new wubi, I will be doing the wubi > real partition conversion.
[23:50] <xtroper> there is any icq for linux like icq ? ( i mean when you click it it show you write number icq and password)
[23:50] <arand> bloodw: so much a matter of opinion.
[23:50] <WACOMalt> digitalstimulus: yes why?
[23:50] <davidkarr> MenZa: "Install them side by side", "erase and use the entire disk", and "Specify partitions manually"
[23:50] <digitalstimulus> WACOMalt, oops, wrong person
[23:50] <MenZa> !repeat | xtroper
 thanks
[23:50] <digitalstimulus> xtroper, pidgin
[23:50] <Pretto> how to kill an uninterruptible process
[23:50] <WACOMalt> digitalstimulus: np
[23:50] <Pretto> ?
[23:50] <mka> blood: you can put an entry in your /etc/fstab and mount it all the time your machine starts up
[23:50] <erUSUL> bloodw: emacs
[23:50] <xtroper> pidgin but not like icq
[23:50] <Ek|mu5> no holy wars for text editors please...
[23:50] <aLeSD> hi I'm having troble with new 9.10. Sometimes my keyboard goes crazy and it freeze like if I push always the same button. I trined to deconnect it (usb) but nothing it continue to print the same letter and I have to reboot
[23:50] <xtroper> i want like icq when u open it you write number and password
[23:50] <aLeSD> any idea ?
[23:50] <MenZa> davidkarr: Then you want the first one... the docs I'm reading through right now says you get to "specify the size of the new partition as a size of your harddisk"
[23:50] <NetEcho> :o when was 9.10 released?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> digitalstimulus:   MenZa  manual install is good, but first maybe  set up partitions in Gparted  system > administration >  partition editor  and then  finnish off there.  seperate homes are good to set up a new install
[23:51] <mka> blood: I have to go to bed now
[23:51] <blood> mka: tell me how to mount in term plz
[23:51] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908: if I just mount the disk file in my new wubi install, and copy everything over but the boot, and other grub folders, will that work?
[23:51] <xtroper> i want like icq when u open it you write number and password
[23:51] <LjL> NetEcho: during 10/2009, as the name says ;)
[23:51] <digitalstimulus> sebsebseb, wrong person :)
[23:51] <maperx> sebsebseb, i'do start with a pendrive (ubuntu 9.10) and get the same problem
[23:51] <sumeetbali> thanks
[23:51] <MenZa> davidkarr: Will you let me have a second to try and boot the LiveCD ina virtual machine?
[23:51] <blood> mka: ok, thx for the help mka appreciate it
[23:51] <xtroper> i want like icq when u open it you write number and password
[23:51] <mka> blood: I think it is mounted already
[23:51] <sebsebseb> digitalstimulus: oh this again :(
[23:51] <WACOMalt> xtroper: pidgin works with icq
[23:51] <sebsebseb> davidkarr: see above
[23:51] <sumeetbali> i never liked pidgen
[23:51] <oddhyena> does anyone know if there is a way to stream data into a file and have it be limited so it's always only like 30mb and have older data in the file be deleted? i'm trying to stream DV video to vlc which streams to internet, and I don't want it to use up my /dev/shm directory
[23:51] <xtroper> but i want only icq that you open it you see number and password and click connet like icq 6.5
[23:51] <cygnus_> hi
[23:51] <NetEcho> ah so thats where the logic of *.04 and *.10 comes from
[23:51] <WACOMalt> xtroper: and dont spam the same message
[23:51] <mka> blood: please paste here the output of "df -h | grep /mnt/ext4"
[23:52] <cygnus_> is there a graphicd utility i can use to edit iptables rules
[23:52] <digitalstimulus> xtroper, that is called a username and password.  i believe pidgin works with icq
[23:52] <epinky> !ot | xtroper
[23:52] <MenZa> !iptables | cygnus_
[23:52] <davidkarr> MenZa: When the "Install them side by side" is checked, there is a slider below all of the options, with Windows blue on the left, and Ubuntu orange on the right, and it's essentially divided the disk in half. My intention is to move the slider to the left a bit, leaving more for ubuntu.  I assume this will allocate it the way I specify, still preserving what was in the windows partition?
[23:52] <xtroper> but i want only icq that you open it you see number and password and click connet like icq 6.5
[23:52] <xtroper> you dont understand i dont want pidgin
[23:52] <sebsebseb> davidkarr: I just messaged you well tried to,  so  check out what I put
[23:52] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, I would actually try (make a backup of the backup :) ) to put the new /boot and /etc/grub.d in the old filesystem.
[23:52] <digitalstimulus> xtroper, then contact the people that make icq and ask them for a linux version
[23:52] <MenZa> davidkarr: That's correct.
[23:52] <cygnus_> thanks
[23:52] <WACOMalt> xtroper:  set it to not remember your password then. Or set up all of your icq accounts.  Why would you want to have to manually log in all the time
[23:52] <MenZa> davidkarr: Assuming it doesn't break something horribly - although I do have a suggestion, which has been mentioned by sebsebseb
[23:52] <davidkarr> MenZa: Ok, I guess I'll try it.
[23:52] <blood> mka: hey it did somthibng that time...
[23:53] <blood> mka: /dev/sdb1              29G  172M   28G   1% /mnt/ext4
[23:53] <sebsebseb> davidkarr: wait
[23:53] <xtroper> WACOMatt : i am not the only one that use in computer thats why i want maunally
[23:53] <mka> blood: yep!
[23:53] <phix_> Hey, in Karmic, how do I configure GDM? the gdmsetup only allows me to change auto login settings, I can't change sound, theme or anything now
[23:53] <LjL> oddhyena, uhm, i don't really know, but it seems to me that that's not really possibly to do with a physical *file* on the disk almost by definition
[23:53] <MenZa> davidkarr: By default, Ubuntu will install all of its files - your personal files, applications settings, programs, etc. in *one* partition. It is preferable to have a seperate / [root], /home [/home], and swap, so in case you need to re-install, you can do so without losing any of your settings, or personal files.
[23:53] <mka> blood: it is in /mnt/ext4
[23:53] <WACOMalt> xtroper: then why dont you have different users on the computer? pidgin will be separated per user
[23:53] <digitalstimulus> xtroper, this channel is for ubuntu support.  we have given you an alternative.  try offtopic chat
[23:53] <LjL> oddhyena: files are easy to append to, but expensive to pop stuff from
[23:53] <duffydack> xtroper, so setup pidgin to use icq and dont remember the password?  whats the problem?
[23:53] <vlt> Hello. I want to change an icon of a tag in F-Spot. I click on "edit tag" and the image. How can I choose another image (of the 20 listed ones)?
[23:53] <blood> mka: sweet
[23:53] <NetEcho> I'll probably do a dist upgrade next week
[23:53] <sebsebseb> davidkarr: if you haven't told it to to install anything yet,  you can cancel  install,  and do things   my way or Menza's way   which results in you getting a seperate /home as well
[23:53] <sjefen6> boot Bomj for adult spam
[23:54] <mka> blood: but if you reboot it will not be mounted there anymore
[23:54] <NetEcho> unless the other night I did do one already
[23:54] <xtroper> duffyhack : i want icq like icq 6.5 not pidgin ( when you open it its tell you write number and password)
[23:54] <xtroper> thats all
[23:54] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, did you run checkdisk yesterday on your windows partition?
[23:54] <blood> mka: thats what fstab is aboot
[23:54] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908: how can I mount the disk image with write access? even without -o ro, I only have read access.
[23:54] <oddhyena> does anyone know how to set up a dv camcorder as a video4linux device?
[23:54] <MenZa> davidkarr: Is this what you want to do?
[23:54] <mka> blood: thats 100% right!
[23:54] <blood> mka: i can ask other people about that, you go sleep :)
[23:55] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, you prob need root access. with the disk check thing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Cannot%20boot%20into%20Ubuntu
[23:55] <mka> blood: ok cheers
[23:55] <WACOMalt> xtroper:  sorry. it doesn't work that way on any program on linux I know of. now stop reposting the same question.
[23:55] <blood> thnx again ;)
[23:55] <phix> LjL: Hey buddy, have you experienced the same issue I am having in Karmic?
[23:55] <xtroper> wacomalt : i dont tell you i want icq 6.5
[23:55] <IdleOne> xtroper: have you tried Licq? it is in Synaptic package manager
[23:56] <Blehk> Does anyone know the zsh setup script app name?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> maperx: oh I see you were getting my attention by the pm
[23:56] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908: I have read that page a thousand times :(
[23:56] <xtroper> idleone : its remember only my icq
[23:56] <xtroper> in licq
[23:56] <davidkarr> MenZa: Yes, I want to have everything in ubuntu in a single partition, if possible.
[23:56] <fx60> hi  all
[23:56] <sebsebseb> maperx: uhmm  I haven't done a USB install myself before, and   you should try a clean install of 9.10 really
[23:56] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, is the old filesystem actually mounted read only or do you lack access in linux to change any files?
[23:56] <my> notakiller: weather we want to payto create a account
[23:56] <LjL> phix: GDM isn't configurable in Karmic
[23:57] <phix> LjL: why?
[23:57] <WACOMalt> xtroper: just set up a user for each person using the computer. Problem solved. no need to manually type in anything.
[23:57] <LjL> phix: i don't know, i didn't make it.
[23:57] <trism> phix: well, it is, but not as much as before, you can change the wallpaper and some of the theme, but that is about it
[23:57] <phix> LjL: hmmmmm, so it is a gdm issue?
[23:57] <xtroper> wacomalt :  but i dont know all the numbers and password of my familty
[23:57] <bloodw> http://www.abluestar.com/utilities/rndimages/img/acer.jpg
[23:57] <xtroper> and if my friend want to come
[23:57] <xtroper> you tell stupid things
[23:57] <sebsebseb> phix: You can try KDM instead of GDM 2, which looks nice in Karmic.   It can be themed, but that default theme is rather nice.
[23:57] <maperx> sebsebseb: thanks you so much
[23:57] <WACOMalt> xtroper: so have THEM type them in when they log into their accounts. not that hard.
[23:58] <LjL> phix: i don't think it's considered an "issue"
[23:58] <MenZa> davidkarr: In that case, follow sebsebseb's lead (if you will, sebsebseb? I've gotten sidetracked over something - apologies)
[23:58] <phix> sebsebseb: I could do that, but I quite like Gnome :)
[23:58] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, sorry, are you planning to convert this to a dual-boot setup? A bit ago you said something that hinted at that.
[23:58] <xtroper> its not comrfotrable like you only write icq num ber and password without go to options or something
[23:58] <phix> LjL: Sounds like a bug to me :)
[23:58] <sebsebseb> phix: GDM 2  I think icons and colours can be changed and that's it unless you edit source code.  The reason it can't be themed like the old one is, because that feature got removed or whatever, whilst they were cleaning up the code.
[23:58] <fx60> hello
[23:58] <IdleOne> xtroper: we have told you how to use icq in linux, if that isn't what you want then you can contact the maintainers of ICQ and ask them to write a linux version
[23:58] <troyster> Evenin - I'm having an issue with my LG Flatron monitor in Karmic. . .
[23:58] <davidkarr> MenZa: and I decided to only follow one person, so I'll backtrack and see what sebsebseb said. :)
[23:58] <WACOMalt> Well it's windows xp and linux yes, but they will be separate drives. I am removing OSX from the PC already
[23:58] <phix> sebsebseb: oh ok
[23:58] <WACOMalt> Ashfire908: Well it's windows xp and linux yes, but they will be separate drives. I am removing OSX from the PC already
[23:59] <MenZa> davidkarr: Again, my apologies. You *can* use the "Install them side by side" option. If Ubuntu is too small, it *can* be resized later.
[23:59] <xtroper> Idloe : there is only licq and pidgin ?
[23:59] <phix> sebsebseb: so it just isn't in there any more? or is it a hidden feature?
[23:59] <sebsebseb> davidkarr: well I have helped people  partition new installs,  many times in here and such,  it  would be more interesting for me to see MenZa help you
[23:59] <Ashfire908> WACOMalt, regardless if they are on different drives, it's still dual-boot. How do you have OSX on the computer? is this a mac?
[23:59] <IdleOne> xtroper: kopete also supports icq, by the way a quick internet search would of given you this info
[23:59] <phix> sebsebseb: I wont to get rid of the startup up sound (the drum noise)
[23:59] <MenZa> davidkarr: Go for that option. If you need to resize it later, then that can be done, but it might take a bit of time. :)
[23:59] <phix> want even
[23:59] <trism> phix: if you're feeling brave, gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties; will allow you to change the wallpaper and the theme, you will need to restart gdm to see the changes and it will bring up a little universal access icon that you can disable in System/Preferences/Keyboard on the accessibility tab