[04:23] <rockman> <edbian, is there chinese support?
[04:23] <yagreor> hola... se habla español???
[04:23] <edbian> !cn
[04:23] <edbian> rockman, yep ^^
[04:23] <guampa> !es
[04:23] <ironfoot495> ok
[04:23] <Jordan_U> glassresistor: Maybe a motherboard issue affecting both the CDROM and hard drive connections.
[04:24] <Blue1> yagreor: !es
[04:24] <yagreor> gracias
[04:24] <Blue1> !es | yagreor
[04:24] <tarikk> rocode, do you want a screenshot??
[04:24] <rocode> tarikk, that would be helpful.
[04:24] <rockman> ubottu,how do i find them?url? does wine support internet games?
[04:24] <Jordan_U> ironfoot495: Are you running Ubuntu 9.10?
[04:25] <tarikk> rocode, ok cool just a minute :)
[04:25] <keith1> Got a ? I was testing to see if an older Dell Inspiron 1501 would accept Edubuntu (I want it for a laptop for my son) and I selected try before install. I did notice while it tried to boot that there was a wireless firmware error. It suggested I got to a website to upgrade drivers. Is this something I should prepare for upon installing it fully?
[04:25] <Jordan_U> ironfoot495: Nvm, I can see you have both 9.10 and 10.04 from the boot info script output.
[04:25] <edbian> keith1, You should make sure you have a wired internet connection on install.  Then there is a good chance the wifi drivers will be installed when the OS is installed.
[04:26] <rocode> keith1, after you install, you can get the latest firmware updates and apply them without having to connect from system itself.
[04:26] <linux_inferno> Can anyone help me with a networking/netbooting issue?????
[04:26] <rocode> linux_inferno, what seems to be the issue?
[04:27] <keith1> I understand. I can do a wired connection. I've just had the most problems with Ubuntu on Dell laptops
[04:27] <glassresistor> Jordan_U: well cdrom is usb and hdd is sata
[04:27] <robertwall> keith1: If you install the 'b43-fwcutter' package after installation with the ethernet connected, it should fetch them.
[04:28] <linux_inferno> rocode my roommate has a share on x.x.2.2 and netboots a system. I want to netboot my system off x.x.2.20 Can i do this?
[04:28] <linux_inferno> rocode or do I need to set up a share on another subnet like x.x.4.2
[04:28] <keith1> thanks RobertWall I'll do that
[04:29] <rocode> Yes you can. You won't have an issue using the same subnet.
[04:29] <DasEi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/479212 , uchobby
[04:29] <rockman> OMD！ silence only there
[04:29] <DasEi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/479212 , uchobby_AFK
[04:29] <Jordan_U> ironfoot495: Ironically, it appears that Ubuntu 9.10, which is installed on sda1, installed grub to the mbr of sdb.
[04:29] <edbian> keith1, Dell ships laptops that come with Ubuntu pre-loaded.  You really shouldn't have any problems.
[04:29] <rocode> edbian, Dell discontinued that program, IIRC.
[04:30] <edbian> keith1, If you're having a lot of problems with the wifi be sure to look at the tail end of dmesg.  It usually gives a helpful hint :)
[04:30] <linux_inferno> How would I go about accomplishing this rocode. I was following this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[04:30] <edbian> rocode, Too bad :(
[04:30] <keith1> Yeah I did notice that but this was an older Dell, and I was curious if that would apply in this case
[04:30] <rockman> question, does wine have a default direct_X dll links?
[04:30] <DasEi> etherealite_ :still around ?
[04:30] <Jordan_U> ironfoot495: Which install can you currently boot, 9.10 or 10.04?
[04:31] <rocode> edbian, IIRC, they discontinued non-server linux. There was a big pooha on slashdot a couple of weeks ago about it.
[04:31] <ry0n> I had the power fail while I was resizing Partition A to Freespace B. The two changed orders in the partition table but B is still there and the same size and A is unmountable. gpart hangs after the first partition. am I hosed?
[04:31] <edbian> rockman, keith1: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=anavml
[04:31] <oscurochu> I am trying to boot ubuntu 10.04 x64. everything *seems* to work fine, i hear the ubuntu login sound after some time, but my monitor goes to sleep shortly after selecting "try ubuntu" on the boot screen. i have an nvidia onboard video card
[04:31] <DasEi> ry0n: a little, least
[04:31] <DasEi> ry0n: is there data you still need ?
[04:32] <rocode> linux_inferno, just make sure both of your subnet ranges do not interfere with each other.
[04:32] <keith1> Those sneaky Dell people preloading Ubuntu. bet that saved them some $$
[04:32] <ry0n> DasEi: eh, enough to spend hours but not enough to spend money? It's not important data but I'd rather not lose it if I can manually rebuild the partition table some way.
[04:32] <iredux> ed, etc latest news I could find was July 26 this: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/115316/calm-down-dell-not-throwing-ubuntu-linux-out
[04:32] <rocode> keith1, they charged extra for the laptop to come with linux, IIRC. I ended up buying mine with windows and reformatting.
[04:33] <ry0n> and the two partitions appear to be still there and unchanged.
[04:33] <linux_inferno> rocode Thanks, Ill look deeper into that
[04:33] <rockman> other question ,I haver a internal graphic card and i buy a nvidia 7300 ,but cant setup ,got a black screen ,how to do ?
[04:33] <oscurochu> any help getting my video card working on the ubuntu x64 live CD??
[04:33] <ironfoot495> looki these pastebin wont let me have a url whats going on hyere??????
[04:33] <tarikk> rocode, here is the ss http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ose740&s=4
[04:33] <DasEi> ry0n: ok, then you need another running ubuntu (live cd least, better usb or such), and then have to run testdisk, that can take a long time, depending on drives size
[04:34] <keith1> thanks for the links. I'll read up on it
[04:34] <Guest34267> I have a question
[04:34] <tensorpudding> !ask | Guest34267
[04:34] <rocode> tarikk, what system theme are you using?
[04:35] <rockman> 10.10 doesnt support nivia
[04:35] <ry0n> DasEi, hrm, testdisk might succeed where gpart failed? I hadn't checked it out, but it sounds like they do similar things.
[04:35] <rockman> i mean old nvidia cards?
[04:35] <tensorpudding> testdisk can restore partitions that exist but do not appear in the partition table
[04:35] <zhihongye> Hi, does somebody know how to move "system menu" and "position menu" to "Application menu".
[04:35] <rocode> oscurochu, what seems to be the issue?
[04:35] <DasEi> ry0n: nah, that's a complete different tool
[04:35] <bonez2046> DasEi: testdisk helped me a recover a hozed disc once.. it's powerful
[04:35] <DasEi> !info testdisk
[04:35] <ry0n> !info gpart
[04:35] <Guest34267> I connected my evo 4g to my laptop running Ubuntu and it shows up in the disk utility but it will not show up on the desktop so I cannot access the files on it. How do I get it to show up on the desktop like normal? Thanks I am kind of new to ubuntu
[04:36] <rocode> Guest34267, go to places, select the device, mount it, and it will appear on your desktop.
[04:36] <DasEi> rockman: like which ?
[04:36] <oscurochu> rocode: I try to boot the ubuntu x64 live CD, and my monitor goes to sleep shortly after the boot screen. After a minute or two, i hear the ubuntu startup/login sound. i tried pressing alt+f1, and my monitor still remains sleeping
[04:36] <tarikk> rocode, default one.. ambiance
[04:37] <rockman> dasei, 7300GT
[04:37] <Guest34267> it will not show up in places
[04:37] <rocode> oscurochu, enter your monitors control panel and disable sleep on lack of input detection.
[04:37] <ry0n> Thanks for the program suggestion, but I do think it sounds like what gpart does, since they both scan partitions and try to build a new table.
[04:37] <DasEi> rockman: supported under 10.04, and also propitary driver woks fine on that
[04:38] <Guest34267> but in the disk utility it shows up as "HTC Android Phone"
[04:38] <Kurogane> Any1 knows if i'm connected to vpn i get slow conection to internet?
[04:38] <bsmith093> when i login from sleep where ist asks fro my password, it accepts then lets me back in, goes back to sleep after about 1.5 secs and i enter my pass again and its fine? running lucid
[04:38] <oscurochu> rocode: it wont let me access the menu, everytime i press the menu button it goes to sleep
[04:38] <rocode> Guest34267, does it show up under "Computer" as a device?
[04:39] <Guest34267> no
[04:39] <Guest34267> it shows up in the disk utility just not the computer
[04:39] <rockman> DasEi:why cannt setup? is it useful to setup without nvidia card then put it on?
[04:39] <oscurochu> rocode: i even tried unplugging the cable. this monitor sucks.
[04:39] <rocode> tarikk, give me a second. Checking it on mine.
[04:40] <tarikk> rocode, cool thanks
[04:40] <DasEi> rockman: can be workaround, but why ? what happens if you try to install ?
[04:40] <rockman> when internal and nvidia both on PC
[04:40] <rocode> oscurochu, sound like. Let me see if I can find any similar issues. Can you give me your monitor make and model?
[04:40] <miles_> who are you?
[04:41] <ironfoot495> jordan_u: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/479206/
[04:41] <rockman> DASei: when they both on PC ,will show black screen i when setup
[04:41] <Guest34267> My Evo only shows up in Disk Utility it will not show up in Computer, any help?
[04:41] <rocode> miles_, we are the collective AI known as the "Ubuntu Community". We are coming. Expect us.
[04:41] <Jordan_U> ironfoot495: I've seen it.
[04:41] <Jordan_U> ironfoot495: Which install can you currently boot, 9.10 or 10.04?
[04:42] <DasEi> rockman: bios set correctly ?
[04:42] <ironfoot495> 9.10
[04:42] <DasEi> rockman: you can choose there which card should be primary
[04:43] <miles_> sorry ,this is my first time chatting here.
[04:43] <rockman> Dasei:bio set nidia on use ,is correct?
[04:43] <miles_> #ubuntu
[04:43] <rocode> miles_, no issue.  Could you tell me what you did? Did you just change orientation?
[04:45] <rocode> oscurochu, sounds like a poorly designed monitor.
[04:45] <oscurochu> rocode: its an hp vs17e
[04:45] <rockman> DasEi,I turn off the internal,only nvidia inuse
[04:45] <DasEi> rockman: yes, for installing
[04:46] <DasEi> rockman: you can in the later bring it back and use as dualhead
[04:46] <Lost-in8> I am unable to unlock gdmsetup with "sudo gdmsetup" the unlock button when clicked does nothing. please help
[04:46] <Guest34267> My Evo 4G will not show up under computer. It will only show up in disk utility can anyone please help me?
[04:47] <razz1> anyone using vdr with xine, I can watch DVB-T fine but struggling to configure xvdr plugin, I am trying this for the first time, any help appreciated
[04:47] <Lost-in8> This is with 10.04, i386
[04:47] <oscurochu> rocode: ok, now it says no input siganl, instead of going to sleep. i think i got it figured out.
[04:47] <DasEi> Lost-in8: hehe, ubu doesn't like you, well : call gdmsetup without root, then it works
[04:48] <rockman> DasEi:i encounter this problen since 8.04, you means install with internal card and put on nividia after setup?
[04:48] <oscurochu> but it still wont let me access the menu without a signal from the video card. oh well, now what?
[04:48] <Lost-in8> DasEi: did already.... didn't work either
[04:48] <Lost-in8> DasEi: would it be ok to not have a /etc/gdm/gdm.conf?
[04:49] <rocode> oscurochu, do you have another monitor you can test? Because if it is a actual ubuntu display issue, that would be interesting.
[04:49] <DasEi> rockman: that's strange behaviour then, with the bios correctly set, yes, you can also install via onboard, then install driver for 7300, then put card in
[04:49] <oscurochu> rocode: yeah ill go get it
[04:50] <blackMatrix_NY> hi all. Is there a method to see which command spawned of a certain processes that I see under ps
[04:50] <DasEi> Lost-in8: it's /etc/init/gdm.conf
[04:50] <Lost-in8> DasEi: oh ok cool, ty
[04:50] <miles_> who can help me to download some programs used in this system?
[04:50] <Lost-in8> DasEi: so...any other ideas?
[04:51] <Lost-in8> DasEi: is there anyway to "reset" gdm without gdmsetup?
[04:51] <DasEi> Lost-in8: ideas in what ?
[04:51] <bazhang> miles_, try the software center and have a look at the ubuntu manual
[04:51] <rockman> DasEi:u mean i must install 7300 driver before put it in? can do it without card?
[04:51] <Lost-in8> DasEi: with my gdmsetup not letting me unlock it to change settings
[04:51] <bazhang> !manual | miles_
[04:51] <_chun> Can anyone help me with pulseaudio, specifically where I find the "source name/index" for use with "pactl set-source-volume"
[04:51] <rocode> miles_, what programs are you looking for? You can find the complete package selection under the Software Center.
[04:51] <DasEi> Lost-in8:  call gdmsetup without root, then it works
[04:51] <DasEi> no sudo infront
[04:51] <Lost-in8> DasEi: I did that already and it "didn't" work
[04:52] <miles_> much thanks
[04:52] <rpinzon> anyone know how to get working an external hdd using eSata connection? do i need to install something?
[04:52] <Lost-in8> DasEi: wait.... now it worked....wth!
[04:52] <oscurochu> rocode: both monitors say no signal
[04:52] <Lost-in8> DasEi: thanks DasEi
[04:52] <ry0n> dancing frog bug
[04:53] <rocode> oscurochu, what is your video card spec?
[04:53] <DasEi> Lost-in8: see the doc, have fun :)
[04:53] <rocode> wait
[04:53] <rocode> oscurochu, are you attaching this to your laptop, or box?
[04:53] <oscurochu> rocode: nvidia, not sure which model or chipset (or however its is determined)
[04:53] <oscurochu> rocode: box.
[04:53] <rocode> oscurochu, is this a second monitor or the only monitor attached?
[04:54] <DasEi> rockman: yes, can, then shutdown, put card in, setttle bios, reboot
[04:54] <oscurochu> rocode: i've never had a problem with 32-bit ubuntu, just x64.
[04:54] <tarikk> rocode, sorry got dropped. im using dual monitors that could be the issue
[04:54] <oscurochu> rocode: i have tried two different monitors now, i only have one video card btw.
[04:54] <tarikk> rocode, the screenshot only shows the right side
[04:54] <Nautilus> someone mind helping a nix noob a little?  I want to grep files in the current dir for 'rounded'.  eg:  grep rounded *css   ?
[04:54] <DasEi> rockman: to get the modules in kernel, a reboot is needed anyways after driver and header install
[04:55] <abhijit> cant access pen drive after gparted formated it. urgent help please?????
[04:55] <rocode> oscurochu, are you sure your system is 64bit?
[04:55] <oscurochu> Nautilus: ls | grep rounded
[04:55] <DasEi> rockman: the nvidia homepage gives detailed intructions and the latest driver
[04:55] <abhijit> help
[04:55] <oscurochu> rocode: yes, i ran gentoo x64 just fine
[04:55] <POloser-> hello. i run hardy. do-release-upgrade will work only after 10.04.1 release? when it's planning?
[04:55] <DasEi> abhijit: choosed wrong fs ? size of it ?
[04:55] <oscurochu> rocode: plus everything seems to startup fine, i even hear the ubuntu startup sound you hear after logging in, the only problem is the monitor (that i know of)
 :thanks ,i will try it
[04:56] <ry0n> If I update my system with "apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade" out of habit instead of using the tool is it going to brick my OS eventually?
[04:56] <bazhang> ry0n, that wont change versions
[04:57] <rocode> ry0n, no. The tool is simply a graphical UI for that command.
[04:57] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | ry0n
[04:57] <bazhang> ry0n, /msg ubottu upgrade for how to change versions
[04:57] <Nautilus> oscurochu: thanks but that doesnt find anything either. I know 'rounded' exists in the files
[04:57] <rocode> tarikk, from what I can gather, the tiling issue is related to the window widget.
[04:57] <abhijit> DasEi, 2gb pen drive
[04:57] <DasEi> POloser-: http://tinyurl.com/34n4hpe
[04:58] <ry0n> thanks bazhang, rocode
[04:58] <DasEi> abhijit: formatted to which fs ?
[04:58] <ironfoot495> jordan_U is there a cure ?
[04:58] <Nautilus> oscurochu: oh, I added a * and it works
[04:58] <oscurochu> Nautilus: rounded exists in the files, or in the directory?
[04:58] <abhijit> DasEi, i forgot it now. but mainly ntfs or fat32
[04:58] <Nautilus> oscurochu: in the files
[04:58] <rocode> oscurochu, did this occur before or after installation?
[04:59] <DasEi> abhijit: these small ones often just suppport fat32, or fat 16 even
[04:59] <POloser-> DasEi: thanks. need to wait a little.
[04:59] <oscurochu> rocode: im attempting to boot the ubuntu x64 live CD, so i havent even installed it yet.
[04:59] <abhijit> DasEi, what should i do now?
[04:59] <DasEi> abhijit: run gparted again and use another fs
[04:59] <rocode> oscurochu, that's odd. It shouldn''t be dumping you to the livecd portion without giving the option of install/livecd. Which version is this?
[04:59] <abhijit> DasEi, gparted cant detect it.
[05:00] <ry0n> Holy crap, I think testdisk just succeeded where gpart failed.
[05:00] <DasEi> abhijit: make new partitiontable, first (msdos)
[05:00] <Jordan_U> ironfoot495: First run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" from within 9.10, and make sure that grub is set to be installed to /dev/sda rather than /dev/sdb (do *not* select any partitions). That should also add 10.04 to the grub menu, then you should boot 10.04 and run the same command but select sdb.
[05:00] <abhijit> DasEi, how?
[05:00] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo fdisk -l      shows the drive ?
[05:00] <DasEi> l=l
[05:00] <DasEi> L
[05:00] <Jordan_U> ironfoot495: That way the two installs won't be stepping on each other when there are grub upgrades.
[05:00] <tarikk> rocode, i see. but does the show desktop icon and rubbish bin normally get this big? the open windows.. they keep changing sizes get fat then thin when you open more
[05:00] <ironfoot495> ok will do
[05:01] <tarikk> rocode, it looks stupid lol.. not sure if this is just with me
[05:01] <rocode> tarikk, try disabling the expand option in the panel preferences.
[05:01] <oscurochu> rocode: on the 10.04 x64 live cd, it doesnt appear to give you the option. it shows some sort of splash screen, then continues to boot the live CD. now if you press a key (i pressed an arrow key), then the menu appears. i have only tried the livecd portion of the livecd.
[05:01] <abhijit> DasEi, no it only shows sda. not my pen drive which is sdb or sdc
[05:01] <DasEi> abhijit: so it might be broken then
[05:01] <DasEi> abhijit: try lsusb
[05:01] <rocode> oscurochu, try doing a straight install without livecd boot
[05:01] <gundas> hi all, is there a way to setup commands to run i.e. exports, shell scripts when ubuntu server starts and also when it shutsdown / reboots ?
[05:01] <tarikk> rocode, tried it umm.. its a little neater but the tiling is still there.. but its good enough i think
[05:02] <tarikk> rocode, thanks!
[05:02] <mena> hi
[05:02] <Jordan_U> !boot | gundas
[05:02] <rocode> tarikk, I am trying to find a solution to the tiling. I think it relates to how the windows widget builds its alpha for each individual item.
[05:02] <mena> any one can help me in this
[05:02] <DasEi> gundas: few, most common is /etc/init  or in the file rc.local
[05:02] <rocode> mena, please ask your question on one line. Thank you.
[05:02] <DasEi> gundas: or cronjobs
[05:02] <mena> oky
[05:03] <gundas> DasEi: how about shutdown.reboot ?
[05:03] <abhijit> DasEi, it shows in lsusb but name is wrong. its transcend but it shows alcor corporation
[05:03] <mena> i wanna install backtreak tools to mine meue
[05:03] <Blue1> gundas: startup System/Preferences/Startup Applications or you can try rcconf
[05:03] <ry0n> does cron know about shutdown and boot or is it just based on the clock?
[05:03] <oscurochu> rocode: same result, screen goes blank. not sure if this is suppose to happen, but i highly doubt it.
[05:03] <DasEi> gundas: also works, just with this commands in a script
[05:03] <gundas> Blue1: on server
[05:03] <abhijit> DasEi, ??  :-o
[05:04] <Blue1> gundas: rcconf
[05:04] <gundas> Blue1: thanks
[05:04] <DasEi> gundas: you can write a script which then is called by cron
[05:04] <Rubi_c0N> Does anybody have experience setting up GNU w/ Thunderbird in 10.4 TLS ?
[05:04] <rocode> mena, backtrack is a specialist distribution that is packaged with a custom version of several of those security tools. However, you can find the individual tool list from the backtrack website and go to each tools website to download them.
[05:04] <DasEi> abhijit: lsusb   finds it ?
[05:04] <Blue1> Rubi_c0N: yeah
[05:04] <gundas> you can run a cron when a pc reboots?
[05:04] <abhijit> DasEi, it shows in lsusb but name is wrong. its transcend but it shows alcor corporation
[05:04] <abhijit> DasEi, yes lsusb finds it
[05:04] <mena> any one wanna help me tp install backtreak tools to my ubuntu
[05:04] <mena> ?
[05:04] <Blue1> gundas: sudo crontab -e
[05:04] <Rubi_c0N> Blue1: need help
[05:04] <ry0n> did someone tell oscurochu to try switching vtt?
[05:05] <rocode> mena, I just answered your question.
[05:05] <Blue1> Rubi_c0N: private message ok?
[05:05] <Rubi_c0N> si
[05:05] <mena> ty
[05:05] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:05] <gundas> Blue1: does rc.local run even when a user hasn't logged in?
[05:05] <abhijit> DasEi, i have pastebintit
[05:05] <abhijit> DasEi, what should i pastebinit?
[05:05] <HPtwhite> ok im trying to use a wireless adapter. when it tells me i need to put in a new line on the bottom of the modulation configuration file and type in code: then two line breaks then ndiswrapper do i literally put it in like that or just ndiswrapper? (ex: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide)
[05:06] <DasEi> abhijit: re-plug the usb ,          dmesg | tail | pastebinit
[05:06] <Vigo_> !pastebin
[05:06] <mena> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:06] <Blue1> gundas: afaik yes, but I haven't tried it.
[05:06] <abhijit> DasEi, ok
[05:06] <mena> E: Couldn't find package pastebinit
[05:06] <oscurochu> ry0n: what do you mean
[05:06] <DasEi> mena: which distro ? live cd ?
[05:06] <abhijit> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/viCUprfn
[05:06] <mena> ubuntu 10.4
[05:07] <ry0n> oscurochu, ctrl+alt+1 or whatever
[05:07] <DasEi> mena: are you on live cd ?
[05:07] <oscurochu> ry0n: you mean tty?
[05:07] <DasEi> !info pastebinit
[05:07] <mena> no i install on hard desk
[05:07] <blackMatrix_NY> anyway to find out the command that kicked of a process ?
[05:08] <oscurochu> ry0n: yes, i did try that btw.
[05:08] <abhijit> DasEi, i give you link.
[05:08] <ry0n> oscurochu, yeah, it was probably a dumb suggestion though. I was just wondering if you had tried it.
[05:08] <DasEi> mena: so pastebinit will be there, sure no typo ?
[05:08] <mena> this massage show for me
[05:08] <DasEi> abhijit: so least it's not broken, try sudo fdisk -l  again
[05:08] <abhijit> DasEi, ok
[05:09] <ouyes> HOW does ubuntu support SSD
[05:09] <DasEi> mena: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:09] <abhijit> DasEi, this is output of fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/ZxYQQt71 it only shows my primary internal hdd - sda but it dont show my pen drive which is either sdb or sdc  ??? help????
[05:09] <oscurochu> ry0n: its only a dumb suggestion if it is completely unrelated to the problem, for instance, telling me to try using a different wireless device, that would be a dumb suggestion because my monitor not working has nothing to do with wireless devices.
[05:09] <mena> xppresp3@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:09] <opij> no packages or dependencies of any kind are kept in /home, right?
[05:09] <mena> Reading package lists... Done
[05:09] <mena> Building dependency tree
[05:09] <mena> Reading state information... Done
[05:09] <mena> E: Couldn't find package pastebinit
[05:09] <FloodBot2> mena: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <oscurochu> DasEi: its supported in the kernel.
[05:10] <mena> oky sorry
[05:10] <abhijit> :'(
[05:10] <oscurochu> DasEi: any OS with kernel level support of SSD can support SSD.
[05:10] <DasEi> oscurochu: nick miss ouyes: HOW does ubuntu support SSD  :)
[05:10] <tucemiux> abhijit, the first step is to figure out where is your device
[05:11] <DasEi> oscurochu: I know that , hehe
[05:11] <abhijit> tucemiux, and how to do that?
[05:11] <oscurochu> DasEi: then i dont understand your question.
[05:11] <DasEi> oscurochu: tell ouyes, who asked  :)
[05:11] <abhijit> DasEi, you gave upon me? :'(  :'(
[05:11] <abhijit> :(
[05:12] <ouyes> DasEi,  nick miss ouyes? what do you mean?
[05:12] <mena> ??/
[05:12] <tucemiux> sudo lshw -C disk
[05:12] <tucemiux> abhijit, sudo lshw -C disk
[05:12] <DasEi> abhijit: no, but seems like the partiton table has been damaged, so it won't get found anymore
[05:12] <abhijit> tucemiux, ok
[05:12] <abhijit> DasEi, reinstall ubuntu?
[05:13] <DasEi> abhijit: what ? cause a lost pendrive ?
[05:13] <opij> no packages or dependencies of any kind are kept in /home, right?
[05:13] <Vigo_> Or repair it.
[05:13] <rocode> DasEi, erm, okay. Ubuntu supports SSD because the Linux kernel supports SSD. SSD is supported at the kernel level by a specific set of instructions that handle the use of a SSD device. (vague answers are the best for vague questions)
[05:13] <tucemiux> opij, no -- unless you installed somewhere in there yourself, "/home" contains your personal files
[05:13] <abhijit> DasEi, yes i want that pen drive. i dont have money to buy new one!!! :( : '(
[05:13] <opij> ok
[05:13] <DasEi> rocode: again, you'r on a nick-miss, it was ouyes that asked
[05:13] <HPtwhite> ok im trying to use a wireless adapter. when it tells me i need to put in a new line on the bottom of the modulation configuration file and type in code: then two line breaks then ndiswrapper do i literally put it in like that or just ndiswrapper? (ex: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide)
[05:13] <abhijit> tucemiux, two entries shown for sdb and sdc
[05:13] <rocode> DasEi, my mistake.
[05:14] <ouyes> DasEi, I want to buy a light lap and improve its mobility(work well in a moving state), so I have to change to ssd, I doubt that ubuntu have good supports for ssd media.
[05:14] <abhijit> tucemiux, DasEi i found it. its disk sdc and it shows in lshhw -C disk
[05:14] <tucemiux> abhijit, so you can most likely mount one of those, I try to find out if theyre being mounted already: "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:14] <rocode> ouyes, Ubuntu supports SSD very well, because Linux supports SSD, and was the first to support SSD.
[05:14] <tucemiux> abhijit,  ready for step 2?
[05:14] <abhijit> tucemiux,  no its not mounted
[05:14] <DasEi> ouyes: but you followed the answers and now know ssd is well supported
[05:14] <abhijit> tucemiux, yes ready
[05:15] <Vigo_> HPtwhite: What flavor or version?
[05:15] <Architeuthis> I was wondering what command to use to update CLamAV
[05:15] <rocode> Architeuthis, 'freshclam'
[05:15] <rocode> Will download the latest definitions.
[05:15] <Architeuthis> ok, thanks
[05:15] <tucemiux> abhijit, create a mount point for your device, say "/media/pendrive", you have to chown the mount point to yourself either now or after you mount it: sudo chown username:username /media/pendrive
[05:16] <tucemiux> abhijit, let me know when youre ready for step 3
[05:16] <abhijit> tucemiux, can you give me step by step instruction? i dont kow how to do that
[05:16] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo mkdir /media/pendrive
[05:17] <abhijit> DasEi, done
[05:17] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo chown -R $USER /media/pendrive
[05:17] <DasEi> say hello to tucem..
[05:17] <abhijit> tucemiux, hello
[05:17] <tucemiux> DasEi, its not mounted yet so dont need -R, maybe after it's mounted then he should chown it
[05:17] <tucemiux> abhijit, follow DasEi 's directions
[05:18] <abhijit> DasEi, tucemiux chown: missing operand after `/media/pendrive'
[05:18] <abhijit> tucemiux, ok
[05:19] <DasEi> abhijit: typo ?
[05:19] <abhijit> DasEi, no i use tab key
[05:19] <pgpkeys> Can someone explain to me how I would track down what is generating these messages?  File descriptor 3 (pipe:[633248]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID 23256: /bin/sh
[05:19] <tucemiux> abhijit, do it the easy way: sudo chown myusername:myusername /media/pendrive
[05:19] <DasEi> abhijit: I don't think we'll be able to mount it, as partiton table seems broken
[05:20] <abhijit> tucemiux, DasEi that worked
[05:20] <pgpkeys> occasionally it pops up when typing in the terminal, othertimes when large text is flowing (such as during an update)
[05:20] <abhijit> DasEi, that worked username:username worked
[05:20] <Vigo_> HPtwhite: NDIS , WICD or an actual driver for Hardware?
[05:21] <abhijit> DasEi, no solution? so what shoud i do with that pen drive now? :'( :'(
[05:22] <DasEi> abhijit: the lshw,  which one was the pendrive, sdb1 or sdc1 ?
[05:22] <abhijit> :'(
[05:22] <abhijit> DasEi, sdc
[05:22] <tucemiux> abhijit, last step, mount it, im not sure how to do that since I dont know how what partition type your pendrive uses, you typically mount a device like this: sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom --- sudo mount [/dev/pendrive_device_name]   /media/pendrive_mountpoint, you have to specify a format somewhere
[05:22] <DasEi> abhijit: make that sure, else we might kill another drive
[05:22] <nimbiotics> Guys, for the last 24hrs ive been trying to share a ntfs partition from my ubuntu pc without luck. I cant even see the my own shares, let alone the other PCs on the network. Can some please help me? TIA!
[05:22] <abhijit> DasEi, yes it is sure sdc
[05:23] <tucemiux> abhijit, you have to use "sudo fdisk -l" --- make sure you dont use anything that's already mounted
[05:23] <abhijit> tucemiux, it tells that unkknown device
[05:23] <abhijit> tucemiux, yah
[05:24] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[05:24] <abhijit> :-o
[05:24] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo fdisk /dev/sdc
[05:24]  * abhijit is scared!
[05:25] <abhijit> DasEi, unable to open /dev/sdc
[05:25]  * dexi is trying to find SOMETHING productive to do before bed... any ideas?
[05:25] <ry0n> nimbiotics, did you try connecting via IP?
[05:26] <abhijit> dexi, fix my pen drive?
[05:26] <uRock> dexi, dishes
[05:26] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[05:26] <DasEi> hehehe^
[05:26] <nimbiotics> ry0n: i've troed everything but witchcraft :/
[05:26]  * pgpkeys breaks out the wiji bouard
[05:27] <dexi> abhijit, uRock, dishwasher (not the machine :p) -- Whats wrong with it?
[05:27] <abhijit> DasEi, done. installed.
[05:27] <HPtwhite> Vigo: I think its for an actual driver (im a n00b)
[05:27] <rocode> nimbiotics, sudo apt-get install goats-blood?
[05:27] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo testdisk
[05:28] <DasEi> abhijit: new log
[05:28] <abhijit> DasEi, it takes me to some prompt
[05:28] <abhijit> DasEi, ok i selected create new log
[05:28] <DasEi> abhijit: darn sdc listed there ?
[05:28] <nimbiotics> rocode: E: Couldn't find package goats-blood
[05:28] <abhijit> DasEi, no
[05:28] <ry0n> heh.
[05:28] <HPtwhite> Vigo_: I think its for an actual driver (im a n00b)
[05:28] <Vigo_> HPtwhite: We all are, some just never admit it, What is the dongle? like Broadcom, Aeros or something?
[05:29] <rocode> nimbiotics, that was a witchcraft joke. ignore me.
[05:29] <nimbiotics> rocode: LMAO!!!
[05:29] <HPtwhite> its a d link EUA 2340
[05:29] <nimbiotics> rocode: :D :D
[05:29] <abhijit> DasEi, sdc is not there. only my primay hdd is there
[05:29] <ry0n> it says something about OSS package names that it seemed believable, perhaps?
[05:29] <DasEi> abhijit: scroll down, quit
[05:30] <bingrailed> hello! just installed wubi ubuntu on my win7 laptop and jumped in here from chatzilla! so far so good
[05:30] <abhijit> DasEi, yah. quited.
[05:30] <DasEi> abhijit: looks quite bad
[05:30] <abhijit> DasEi, :(
[05:30] <rocode> bingrailed, good to hear! =)
[05:30] <bingrailed> Question: what irc client do u guys recommend?
[05:30]  * abhijit needs a pen drive.
[05:30] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo dd if=/dev/null of=dev/sdc
[05:30] <ry0n> BitchX has the best name.
[05:30] <rocode> bingrailed, it depends on preference. I am partial to xChat, but there are several others.
[05:30] <bingrailed> ryon: no doubt about that :)
[05:30] <HPtwhite> and theres something i found that said to use ndiswrapper with the windows xp driver for it
[05:30] <pgpkeys> i'm addicted to my irssi, but thats me.
[05:30] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdc        ,typo above
[05:31] <abhijit> DasEi, dd: opening `/dev/sdc': No medium found
[05:31] <ry0n> I use xchat, as the above. People like irssi?
[05:31] <pgpkeys> i've never been known to be stable
[05:31] <ry0n> yeah
[05:31] <abhijit> DasEi, yah i corrected that typo
[05:31] <Blue1> !pastebin
[05:31] <Rubi_c0N> pgpkeys: LOL
[05:31] <HPtwhite> so i unzipped it and put the inf, bin, sys, etc in a folder on the desktop and ran some commands from the terminal
[05:31] <_chun> Can anyone help me with changing application specific volumes from the terminal?
[05:31] <Vigo_> HPtwhite: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[05:32] <pgpkeys> ;)
[05:32] <bingrailed> ryon: supposed someday i get a job, it's kinda hard to say: i use bitchx and I love it
[05:32] <visitor1> hi people, i have two old hdd installed on my xubuntu 10.4 machine, i need to mount them manualy, i would like to automount them at boot, what do i need to add into fstab? they are ntfs
[05:32] <Rubi_c0N> pgpkeys: lets just use md6 and rsa3 ;)
[05:32] <Vigo_> HPtwhite: Here is the DLink page:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink
[05:33] <ry0n> bingrailed, in that case use goats-blood
[05:33] <pgpkeys> rubi_c0n ~ all over an RS232
[05:33] <bingrailed> thanks, guys! i am getting xchat then
[05:33] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo hdparm -z /dev/sdc
[05:33] <abhijit> DasEi,
[05:33] <abhijit> /dev/sdc:
[05:33] <abhijit>  re-reading partition table
[05:33] <linux_op> hi
[05:33] <HPtwhite> Vigo_: Tn im    an       ok nw...auff s popinu lol
[05:34] <Rubi_c0N> pgpkeys: ROFL
[05:34] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo fdisk -l
[05:34] <linux_op> Im looking for a light weight distro that can boot from usb and has the 'make' command in its bash
[05:34] <pgpkeys> uhh in its bash?
[05:34] <abhijit> DasEi, sdc not listed in fdisk -l :(
[05:35] <DasEi> linux_op: try headless install and later install icewm
[05:35] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1
[05:35] <Vigo_> HPtwhite: It happens: also here:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:35] <linux_op> dasei: oww god want something precompiled
[05:35] <DasEi> !xubuntu
[05:35] <linux_op> im on pmagic atm
[05:35] <linux_op> booo
[05:35] <linux_op> kubuntu!
[05:35] <linux_op> =)
[05:35] <abhijit> DasEi, mkfs.vfat 3.0.7 (24 Dec 2009) /dev/sdc1: No such file or directory
[05:36] <DasEi> abhijit: sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc
[05:36] <pgpkeys> light weight, but he wants kde
[05:36] <abhijit> DasEi, mkfs.vfat 3.0.7 (24 Dec 2009) /dev/sdc: No medium found
[05:36] <linux_op> nonono
[05:36] <linux_op> I just want something lightweight
[05:36] <DasEi> linux_op: kde is the heaviest head
[05:36] <linux_op> can be jwm, blackbox..
[05:36] <abhijit> :'(
[05:36] <nimbiotics> Why is it that i cant see my own pc when i go to places->network? furthermore, when i click on windows network, i get error message: "Unable to mount location. Failed to retrieve share list from server". What can be wrong?
[05:36] <linux_op> oww man
[05:36] <linux_op> will I ever find a light weight usb distro that has the make command =((
[05:37] <abhijit> !lubuntu | linux_op
[05:37] <ry0n> I would assume there are lightweight development distros, but I could be wrong?
[05:37] <DasEi> linux_op: but you can use any base and alter it later to your needs
[05:37] <DasEi> !minimal
[05:37] <linux_op> hmm
[05:37] <MasonB> Ok, does anyone know how to make the WIFI in ubuntu work
[05:37] <linux_op> do most or all ubuntu dirivatives use debian?
[05:37] <Rubi_c0N> MasonB: yes
[05:37] <linux_op> I know that at least 3 do
[05:37] <MasonB> How?
[05:37] <MasonB> Please tell me
[05:37] <DasEi> !unetbootin | linux_op
[05:37] <ry0n> MasonB, I must, since it worked out of the box?
[05:37] <rocode> linux_inferno, Ubuntu itself is derived from debian.
[05:37] <MasonB> I didn't use the box
[05:38] <pgpkeys> linux_op ~ since ubuntu is itself derived from debian, the answer would most probably be yes
[05:38] <Rubi_c0N> tyon : LMAO
[05:38] <ry0n> linux_inferno, ubuntu is a subset of debian
[05:38] <Omen_20> why is searching ubuntu so slow? Windows search blows it away.
[05:38] <Vigo_> linux_op: Yes.
[05:39] <DasEi> abhijit: looks we are through with linux board-tools, next would be specialized data-recovery tools
[05:39] <abhijit> DasEi, ohhh. how to find that toools?
[05:39] <linux_op> well
[05:39] <Vigo_> linux_op: Are you looking for a real lightweight system based on Ubuntu/Debian?
[05:39] <linux_op> can any1 please tell me how to add the make comand to a distro?
[05:39] <ry0n> Omen_20, I would assume because windows searching is based on an index it builds in the background?
[05:39] <DasEi> Omen_20: it's not, once the db is set up
[05:39] <AzMoo> Hi guys, in other distros I can add a scsi hard-drive to a running machine and run: rescan-scsi-bus.sh to find the drive. I can't seem to find that in ubuntu. Have they replaced it with anything?
[05:39] <linux_op> oww I would so appriciate it
[05:40] <Vigo_> linux_op: This is  #offtopic
[05:40] <pgpkeys> linux_op ~ sudo apt-get install make make-doc
[05:40] <DasEi> Omen_20: try sudo updatedb (will take time once) and then locate
[05:40] <HPtwhite> Vigo_: thanks; looks like ive got some reading to do :P
[05:40] <visitor1> hi people, i have two old hdd installed on my xubuntu 10.4 machine, i have to mount them manualy, i would like to automount them at boot, what do i need to add into fstab? they are ntfs
[05:40] <rocode> linux_op: Try getting sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:40] <h00k> linux_op: your question might be better suited for #linux as it's not Ubuntu specific
[05:40] <ry0n> linux_op, you could try something like "linux from scratch"
[05:40] <Vigo_> HPtwhite: Yes, learning is part of the fun!
[05:40] <Rubi_c0N> Who is having wifi issues ?
[05:41] <DasEi> visitor1: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:41] <HPtwhite> i am
[05:41] <h00k> !who | rocode
[05:41] <DasEi> visitor1: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[05:41] <h00k> bah, I meant !ask | Rubi_c0N
[05:41] <Rubi_c0N> HPTwhite: whats your make of your wifi card
[05:41] <DasEi> visitor1: give url her
[05:41] <DasEi> visitor1: give url here
[05:41] <Vigo_> Rubi_con: HPtwhite is,was.
[05:41] <rocode> h00k, don't worry. I will take the reminder. =)
[05:42] <ry0n> MasonB was having wifi problems
[05:42] <Rubi_c0N> Its like a crackhouse in here
[05:42] <h00k> rocode: hah :)
[05:42] <h00k> rocode: sorry
[05:42] <Rubi_c0N> B33r
[05:42] <abhijit> DasEi, ??
[05:42] <ry0n> Rubi_c0N, in what way? I've not been in many crack houses.
[05:42] <Tricia> Is it possible to install Ubuntu onto a device without booting into the normal installer?
[05:42] <rocode> Rubi_c0N, this is off peak. During peak, we have about 15 questions a minute.
[05:43] <Rubi_c0N> ROFL
[05:43] <rocode> Tricia, have you looked at diskless install?
[05:43] <Rubi_c0N> This is great
[05:43] <Tricia> rocode: nope. I'll look at it
[05:43] <ry0n> rocode, I'm actually surprised there isn't some sort of triage system with multiple channels.
[05:43] <DasEi> Rubi_c0N: It's quite calm atm
[05:43] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: WUA-2340 RangeBooster G USB Adapter
[05:43] <HPtwhite> Dlink...
[05:43] <pgpkeys> irc is starting to remind me more and more of free-range aol rooms
[05:43] <DasEi> abhijit: no more ideas, sorry
[05:43] <rocode> ry0n, actually, we have multiple channels for spills.
[05:43] <abhijit> DasEi, in my vista it detects my pen drive but it cant access/modify/format/show its partitino. when i double click on pen drive it tell me that first insert medium in Removable disk (E)
[05:44] <abhijit> DasEi, :'(
[05:44]  * abhijit is crying
[05:44] <rocode> ry0n, when we get a new release, we can get up to 20,000 users.
[05:44]  * abhijit is planning to steal DasEi 's pen drive!
[05:44] <ry0n> abhijit, you have tried the drive on other computers, yes?
[05:44] <ry0n> I mean, I assume so.
[05:44] <DasEi> abhijit: why that ?
[05:44] <abhijit> ry0n, not another computer. in this same computer with vista
[05:44] <abhijit> DasEi, joke
[05:45] <ry0n> uh, couldn't it be a problem with the port or the controller then?
[05:45] <Ritlee> ok here's a fun one for the scripters out there, how do i delete ALL but one word from a line, when the word's position is not known? ie awk '{ print $# }' will not suffice
[05:45] <abhijit> ry0n, may be
[05:45] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: i just did the lsusb thing and am not sure what im looking for. Vigp_ gave me a link and my device isnt there so im guessing its not supported anymore, but the lsusb sees it as a dlink and i ran across an i guess older page that said it was compatible (dont have url any longer)
[05:45] <Rubi_c0N> HPTwhite: mount
[05:45] <ry0n> Hrm, I think the first thing I'd try is a known good usb port.
[05:45] <DasEi> Tricia: like a netboot ?
[05:45] <Rubi_c0N> lsusb
[05:45] <Rubi_c0N> dmesg
[05:45] <Tricia> mm. no
[05:46] <Tricia> DasEi: more like, I'm on ubuntu now, I have a hard drive connected via USB, and I want to install ubuntu on that (so I can put it in a computer later)
[05:46] <Rubi_c0N> Hptwhite: go to ralink site
[05:46] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: sorry im a newb do i just type that in? dmesg?
[05:46] <HPtwhite> ok and what am i looking for there
[05:46] <DasEi> Tricia: ic, could use vbox for that
[05:47] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: how new is your USB adapter
[05:47] <abhijit> brb
[05:47] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: its an older one. ive had it a couple years. only does G
[05:47] <Ritlee> DasEi: netbootin should do what you want, or there's another program that comes w/ lucid
[05:47] <Tricia> DasEi: hm. That might just work.
[05:48] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: hmm google your make then look it up on backtrack forums , has it worked before ?
[05:48] <DasEi> Ritlee: tell tricia, but that will not be same like normal install, and usbcreator is there, too (just startmedium)
[05:48] <abhijit> hmm
[05:48] <Rubi_c0N> G should work off the distro
[05:48] <HPtwhite> not on linux, just winblows
[05:48] <abhijit> wingdows
[05:49] <Rubi_c0N> More like everybody in the world see through windows
[05:49] <HPtwhite> yeah i found something on it and i went to follow the instructions and it gave me an odd message...ill see if i can find it again
[05:49] <ry0n> macrohard
[05:49] <Vigo_> linux_op: still here?
[05:49] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: K
[05:49] <DasEi> abhijit: you can try gparted live cd or oter datarecoverytools, but for now, we tried what was possible without "forensics"
[05:49] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: worst comes to worst you might have to recompile it somehow off a firmware download
[05:50] <abhijit> DasEi, ok. thanks for your time tough.
[05:50] <ry0n> DasEi, what about a known good USB port? I mean, he's only tried it on one port on one computer?
[05:50] <abhijit> :)
[05:50] <Ritlee> DasEi: oh heh now i see
[05:50] <DasEi> Ritlee: it'as funny this day, you're the third doing so :)
[05:50] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: go to free software center
[05:51] <nimbiotics> Why is it that i cant see my own pc when i go to places->network? furthermore, when i click on windows network, i get error message: "Unable to mount location. Failed to retrieve share list from server". What can be wrong?
[05:51] <DasEi> visitor1: ??
[05:51] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/D-Link_WUA-2340
[05:51] <Ritlee> DasEi: heh been a while since i have been on IRC
[05:51] <DasEi> nimbiotics: smb.conf not altered
[05:51] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: thats what i was talking about with weird error on the link
[05:52] <Ritlee> ok here's a fun one for the scripters out there, how do i delete ALL but one word from a line, when the word's position is not known? ie awk '{ print $# }' will not work because the words position that i want can change within the line
[05:52] <nimbiotics> DasEi: How can I fix that?
[05:52] <DasEi> Ritlee: happens to me , too, like in in more then two conservations, but let's stay topic
[05:52] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: i went to software center and got ndiswrapper
[05:52] <DasEi> nimbiotics: gksudo gedit /etc/smb.conf
[05:53] <DasEi> nimbiotics: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:53] <willwh> howdy folks - how do I do a copy of a dir from one user to another - and assign owner/permissions to the new user?, like: cp -r ~/somedir /home/someuser/somedir - with "someuser" having owner / perms
[05:53] <ry0n> gksudo? I don't have to use EXPORTs? woah.
[05:54] <DasEi> !gksudo > ry0n
[05:54] <willwh> cp -r ~/somedir /home/someuser/somedir && sudo -l someuser && chown somedir/   ----something like that?
[05:55] <willwh> seems a bit overly complex for something I would've thought fairly simple :)
[05:55] <DasEi> willwh: sudo chown -R someuser ~/somedir /home/someuser/somedir
[05:55] <HPtwhite> glin
[05:55] <HPtwhite> sry mt
[05:55] <willwh> ah, ty
[05:56] <willwh> man chown and I'd not be asking the question
[05:56]  * willwh slaps himself
[05:56] <willwh> thx for the prompt
[05:56] <ry0n> oh, chown can move? dang.
[05:56] <DasEi> willwh: problem can be that all files in there are owned by someuser then, even if before it was different
[05:56] <willwh> DasEi: yes - that primarly what I want in this case
[05:56] <Zelozelos> is there a way/program to use a web cam as a security cam
[05:56] <DasEi> willwh: better use rsync, which can bring permissions, too
[05:57] <DasEi> willwh: so there you go
[05:57] <willwh> no need :)
[05:57] <willwh> one time copy
[05:57] <Tricia> DasEi: hm. don't think it's going to work. Don't think you can use real harddrives as virtual drives with virtualbox. (unlelss I'm mistaken)
[05:57] <ry0n> Zelozelos, zoneminder?
[05:57] <Zelozelos> ill check it out ty
[05:57] <willwh> oh - anyone got a nice guide for configuring mpd?
[05:58] <DasEi> Tricia: which size has the exterrnal /internal
[05:58] <Tricia> DasEi: what+?
[05:58] <willwh> presumably - if symlinking some ~/Music dir - I will need to give mpd user perms to read?
[05:58] <nimbiotics> DasEi: dont know what else to put in there. workgroup is right, usershare owner only is set to false and I've got at least one share: [mymedia] ///comment = My media & Documents ///read only = yes ///locking = no /// path = /media/My Media /// guest ok = yes
[05:58] <DasEi> Tricia: the gigabytes
[05:58] <Tricia> DasEi: 60G
[05:58] <DasEi> Tricia: which size has the exterrnal /internal
[05:58] <Zelozelos> ry0n, looks like what i ws lookin for thank you
[05:59] <Tricia> DasEi: I'm not sure what you mean
[05:59] <Ritlee> ok here's a fun one for the scripters out there, how do i delete ALL but one word from a line, when the word's position is not known? ie awk '{ print $# }' will not work because the words position that i want can change within the line
[05:59] <ry0n> Zelozelos, No problem, have fun.
[05:59] <Tricia> DasEi: external HD is 60GB.
[05:59] <DasEi> nimbiotics: browseable yes, uncomment wins.. http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/samba_server
[05:59]  * Zelozelos is gonna catch that possy thats messin w his cars now!
[05:59] <DasEi> Tricia: and the internal ?
[06:00] <Tricia> DasEi: I have 23G free.
[06:00] <ry0n> Ritlee, you want a document that consists of the same word over and over again with lots of space around it?
[06:00] <DasEi> nimbiotics: after altering, saving, got to restart samba to take effect
[06:01] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: What did NDIs wrapper do for you
[06:01] <nimbiotics> DasEi: thanks for the link, hope it works
[06:01] <Ritlee> ry0n: lol no i want to pull ONE word out of a line,
[06:01] <Tricia> Ritlee: okay, how do you know which word?
[06:01] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: did it crack wpa2 enterprise TKIP Mschap version 2 ;)
[06:01] <willwh> Ritlee: in to what?
[06:01] <ry0n> yeah, that's what I was wondering. Which word?
[06:01] <willwh> stdout?
[06:02] <Ritlee> Tricia: starts with S0 and has one more number ie S01
[06:02] <DasEi> Tricia: so could set up a virtual hd with 10 gig, afterwards boot live in vbox and then dd it over (also can mount the vdi, might be easier), then later expand again on the 60  gb
[06:02] <ry0n> wouldn't that be a task for grep, not awk?
[06:02] <Ritlee> willwh: if i can get it to output into anything i can manipulate it in to what i need
[06:02] <nimbiotics> DasEi: hmmm you never told me the link was in ... german?!
[06:02] <willwh> yeah - grep will just print the line where it is exists
[06:03] <DasEi> nimbiotics: oh sorry, getting tired, second
[06:03] <Tricia> there's the -o flag
[06:03] <Ritlee> ry0n: grep displays the whole line that has the expression, i want the "Word" that contains the expression, not to whole line
[06:03] <willwh> egrep, yah
[06:03] <Ritlee> Tricia: -o with which command?
[06:03] <DasEi> nimbiotics: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[06:04] <willwh> man egrep ( -o, --only-matching       show only the part of a line matching PATTERN)
[06:04] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: i have no idea what u meant by that lol. i used to have it on wpa-psk2 personal TKIP
[06:04] <thomson1> one thing i've never been able to grasp is correctly partioning a drive to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu
[06:04] <DasEi> nimbiotics: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[06:04] <willwh> thomson1: there isn't much to understand really
[06:04] <DasEi> thomson1: just ask
[06:04] <willwh> 2 partitions is fine
[06:04] <Ritlee> -o with egrep hmmm
[06:04] <Ritlee> i'll try that ;)
[06:04] <ry0n> thomson1, the problem isn't the partitioning, it's not having windows overwrite grub, right?
[06:04] <nimbiotics> DasEi: thanks!
[06:05] <willwh> Ritlee: let me know if you want a simple bash script for iyt
[06:05] <DasEi> np, bitte
[06:05] <willwh> I just use a little script all the time, so I can paste what I am looking for in to the terminal
[06:05] <thomson1> well, it's mainly understanding what partitions i should have and their size
[06:05] <thomson1> there seems to be a lot of conflicting information about it
[06:05] <Ritlee> willwh: WOOT! ty got it :D
[06:05] <willwh> np :)
[06:05] <willwh> glad I could help
[06:06] <DasEi> thomson1: swap is orientated on the ram the box got
[06:06] <Ritlee> i've been googling this for about 5 hours now lol
[06:06] <willwh> really? :( ouch
[06:06] <ry0n> thomson1, I suppose because of how you will use them. You could always sequester each OS on like their own 10gb partition and then leave the rest as a FATxx filedump.
[06:06] <Ritlee> researching under 'sed' and 'awk' but to to avail
[06:06] <Ritlee> thank ya'll
[06:07] <DasEi> ry0n: I wouldn't
[06:07] <willwh> Ritlee: pm :)
[06:08] <DasEi> thomson1: size of the drive ?
[06:08] <ry0n> DasEi, yeah, but dual booting implies that you're not sure which OS you're going to use perhaps, if you're *not sure* how much space to give to each.
[06:08] <thomson1> DasEi: 320 GB
[06:09] <DasEi> ryon: but then use ext3 least, for it's journaling and fsck-functions
[06:09] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: I was joking with you
[06:09] <DasEi> thomson1: so can go with 20GB for each OS, and do the rest in ext3
[06:09] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: are you up and running
[06:09] <HPtwhite> o lol
[06:09] <ry0n> mounting your ext3 data dump under windows requires a 3rd party util though, doesn't it?
[06:10] <HPtwhite> no im not....i still havent figured out what im supposed to do this is all greek to me
[06:10] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: really
[06:10] <DasEi> thomson1: ext3 is well supported under win with a little addon, and home can be moved to all or a part of the storagepart later
[06:11] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: i can tell you what ive done so far if that helps........
[06:11] <ry0n> I wasn't saying fat was a better fs, just that both of his OSs would read it out of the box.
[06:11] <DasEi> thomson1: just keep in mind the hd supports only 4 primary partitions
[06:11] <Rubi_c0N> ry0n : use Acronis if security is not an issue
[06:11] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: shoot
[06:11] <willwh> ry0n: I have to agree
[06:12] <willwh> if unsure - fat filestore
[06:12] <willwh> otherwise - you'll have a lot of questions/issues in future
[06:12] <DasEi> thomson1: linux can boot from all partitons, whereas windows, least the recent ones, demanded a primary ,idk for 7
[06:12] <ry0n> I got in the habit of formatting drives for solely sata to fat for interoperability. This was mostly when ntfs support in debian was minimal.
[06:12] <ry0n> ehr, data not sata
[06:13] <DasEi> thomson1: you are aware of primary/extended/logical ?
[06:13] <thomson1> DasEi: yeah
[06:13] <DasEi> fine then
[06:13] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: i put the drivers in a folder on the desktop....i installed ndiswrapper....i ran some commands in terminal like sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/Drivers/file name here and then something or another for a module putting ndiswrapper at the end of the file and saving it so it will startup
[06:13] <abhinav_singh> i am using vsplit in vi to view two files on same screen..please tell me how to switch between files
[06:14] <DasEi> ry0n: if avoidable, there are lots of good reason to use a journaling fs
[06:14] <DasEi> also defragmentation
[06:14] <thomson1> although, maybe i should buy another hdd because i kinda want to keep the partition setup i hvae on this one
[06:14] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: and then restarted hoping it would boot up. i also configured the wireless settings to my SSID and MAC of my router setting for DHCP automatic
[06:15] <ry0n> DasEi, yeah, I mean, my behavior is solely due to microsofts posture about interoperability. It has little to do with the merits of relative file systems. I've not had many dual boot machines though.
[06:15] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: i ran the lsusb commands and found the device in the list...im lost from there
[06:15] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: ok
[06:16] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: you went way to deep into that
[06:16] <ry0n> thomson1, hard drives are cheap as all get out. It's kind of silly not to have more tb that you know what to do with as an end user.
[06:16] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: when i say linux n00b i really mean it :(
[06:16] <DasEi> ry0n: datarecovery, defragmentation, speed, filerestrictions, ownership.. could become and endless talk, reall' no fat32
[06:16] <APERSON> is there a way to have totem remember to hid the video controlls?
[06:16] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: lol ok just tryin to be thorough
[06:16] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: me too its all good thats how you learn ;)
[06:17] <ry0n> All of those advantages dissolve if the user decides to never boot ubuntu again though and only use their windows partition.
[06:18] <DasEi> ry0n: no, that's not right
[06:19] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: yeah once i get past this ill need help fixing my sound (all staticy garbled and volume goes up and down on its own), finding a linux equivalant of DVD shrink and how to install it (found some dox, but says something about other prerequisites and i dont know how to check if i have them) and something to burn the backup files from it. once i get that figured out ill be on my path to...
[06:19] <HPtwhite> ...learning lol
[06:19] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: Im not daddy day care
[06:19] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: jk
[06:19] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: sounds like you have a bad kernel
[06:20] <DasEi> thomson1: another view worth is encryption of course, there you would want to keep each OS with it's storage alligned
[06:20] <diannaore> is there a ubuntu noob channel?
[06:20] <Rubi_c0N> did you check your MD5 checksum
[06:20] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: lol not sayin ya are. one step at a time. as soon as i get this figured out im calling it a night...work in the mornin
[06:20] <DasEi> !hi | diannaore
[06:20] <ry0n> diannaore, feel free to ask your question here.
[06:20] <DasEi> diannaore: yes , there is, let me look
[06:20] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: what dpes lsusb read
[06:21] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: copy paste
[06:21] <DasEi> diannaore: just ask here, it's ubuntu-beginners
[06:21] <HPtwhite> umm which part?
[06:21] <HPtwhite> i cant im on a different machine because i have no internet
[06:21] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: usb ciso dual band yata yata
[06:21] <Rubi_c0N> ok
[06:21] <diannaore> thanks
[06:22] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: do you know how to run virtual machines
[06:23] <HPtwhite> not particularly no
[06:23] <ry0n> I used to work in a virtual machine shop. I'm a virtual mechanic.
[06:23] <lshaoli> hi  大家好
[06:23] <HPtwhite> lawlz ry0n
[06:24] <Rubi_c0N> ry0n: yea ? whats your flavor ? oracle , vmware , Vpc , or V2 ?
[06:25] <DasEi> abhijit: pm you ?
[06:25] <HPtwhite> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 07d1:3a08 D-Link System Predator Bootloader Download Device Descriptor...does that help?
[06:25] <ry0n> Rubi_c0N, heh. It was actually just a joke, sorry. Although I have used vmware and vpc bothe personally and in the former case professionally. But not for anything interesting.
[06:26] <ry0n> I just think "virtual machine" is comedic if you read "machine" as something other than "computer". Like a virtual chipper shredder or extruder.
[06:26] <ry0n> I also did a bunch of POS contracts and no one besides me found the dual nature of the intialism hilarious.
[06:28] <Rubi_c0N> Ry0n: LOL
[06:28] <Rubi_c0N> HPtwhite: on it one sec i need a drink
[06:28] <phoenix_> when i try to run gyachi, its not starting, i am getting an error "segmentation fault". but when i run with root previleges, it runs fine. but i dont want to give root previleges to gyachi. help please.
[06:29] <coz_> ry0n,  POS as in Point of sale?
[06:29] <ry0n> coz_, yeah, it was all old IBM 486s and pentium 2s.
[06:29] <hariom> How to find which process is running on which port and ip? including localhost
[06:29] <coz_> ry0n,   on linux?
[06:29] <ry0n> running scales and cash registers and hand scanners and the like.
[06:30] <ry0n> I have no idea about the OS, I just did hardware. Sorry.
[06:30] <Rubi_c0N> ry0n: ROFL
[06:30] <Rubi_c0N> ry0n: 96 BOD
[06:30] <ry0n> It was a board swapping and soldering job mostly.
[06:30] <coz_> ry0n,    right understood....oh ok  I was wondering if you tried any of the linux POS software... I have found a nice one     openbravo  java based
[06:30] <DasEi> hariom: top, better htop
[06:30] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: is it ok if i PM you in a minute with the terminal info so i dont flood the room and you can answer in channel? im on a windows machine using chatzilla and i dont have anything like pastebin here
[06:31] <ry0n> coz_, no, sorry. But it sounds interesting.  I am trying to use testdisk to recover a partition that was hosed by an interrupted resize in gparted. After the deep scan, it shows the partition three times with the same contents listed when I hit "p". How do I tell which is the good one?
[06:34] <Rubi_c0N> !Commands
[06:34] <phoenix_> how to run a program with a particular style
[06:35] <coz_> phoenix_,  particular style?
[06:36] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: okiez brb smoke time and drink refill
[06:36] <phoenix_> coz_: i forgot the command , something like xyz --style -human"
[06:36] <coz_> phoenix_,  oh mmm let me check
[06:37] <Jordan_U> ry0n: An interrupted resize is likely not actually a good candidate for fixing with testdisk.
[06:37] <coz_>    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219277
[06:37] <coz_> phoenix_,    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219277
[06:37] <ry0n> Jordan_U, does this imply that it's a good candidate for fixing with something else?
[06:38] <ry0n> I was growing it to fill unallocated space. So the files should have ended up *somewhere*.
[06:38] <phoenix_> coz_: its not that one
[06:38] <Jordan_U> ry0n: I doubt that the partition table was actually changed, so you just have a filesystem that's half resized. I don't know what the best tool for fixing it is, but I don't think you should change the partition table as that could lead you to accidentily overwrite data
[06:39] <ry0n> I'd be fine with mounting it readonly
[06:39] <Jordan_U> ry0n: What filesystem?
[06:39] <ry0n> (sheepishly) ntfs
[06:40] <ju4n64> ntfs
[06:40] <Jordan_U> ry0n: Since you were growing it rather than shrinking it I think that makes it more likely to be recoverable, since existing files / metadata likely didn't have to be moved.
[06:41] <ry0n> I was just growing it to fill up unallocated space in gparted, so yeah, nothing should have had to move. Although, the empty space was before it, not after it.
[06:41] <ry0n> I dunno if that makes a difference.
[06:41] <HPtwhite> Rubi_c0N: im back
[06:42] <Jordan_U> ry0n: It does :(
[06:42] <ry0n> assola
[06:42] <Jordan_U> ry0n: Do you have the log from gparted?
[06:42] <ry0n> did it make one? I wasn't here when the power failed.
[06:43] <coz_> phoenix_,   I have no idea then...however if you remember the command let me know :)
[06:43] <Jordan_U> ry0n: Ahh, I thought it was a software error rather than lost power.
[06:43] <phoenix_> coz_: when i try to run gyachi, its not starting, i am getting an error "segmentation fault". but when i run with root previleges, it runs fine. but i dont want to give root previleges to gyachi.
[06:44] <coz_> phoenix_,  how did you install this?   you may have to change its permissions
[06:44] <ry0n> oh, sorry, no. Power failed while I was growing an ntfs partition to fill empty space in front of it in the partition table. The partitions are still there with their proper sizes (I think) but they switched places?
[06:44] <coz_> phoenix_,   I am sure someone can help I have to get to bed ....I am really exhausted and cant think clearly
[06:44] <phoenix_> coz_: i compiled it from source
[06:44] <phoenix_> coz_: good night
[06:44] <coz_> phoenix_,  ok   do you have link   let me google
[06:45] <phoenix_> coz_: dont strain yourself
[06:45] <ry0n> This is why I was assuming that testdisk might help, since the partitions are still the same, they've just switched places in the p. table and neither is mountable.
[06:45] <coz_> phoenix_,  no problem let me check out the source
[06:46] <ry0n> So I would naively assume the data is still there but just the partition table is hosed?
[06:46] <phoenix_> coz_: thank you
[06:46] <coz_> phoenix_,   you realize this is a few years old yes?
[06:46] <coz_> phoenix_,   do you have vsion 1.1.71?
[06:46] <mneptok> phoenix_: what does Gyachi do that Empathy does not?
[06:47] <phoenix_> coz_:i have the latest version 1.2.10-1
[06:47] <phoenix_> mneptok: voice talk , video cam
[06:47] <coz_> phoenix_,   you didnt install this via the ppa?
[06:47] <phoenix_> mneptok: yahoo chat rooms
[06:48] <phoenix_> coz_: i downloaded the source from sourceforge and compiled it
[06:48] <coz_> phoenix_,  ok  I am trying to find that version hold on
[06:50] <Jordan_U> ry0n: Switched places?
[06:50] <GuyCanada> wooo
[06:50] <GuyCanada>  computers and such
[06:51]  * willwh slaps GuyCanada with maple syrup
[06:51] <thune3> ry0n: what is the current state of the partition table? It is OK to have a partition bigger than the filesystem that occupies it. If you just had unoccupied space, and there is something to be recovered from the filesystem, you should just be able to set the partition to be as big as it was + free space. All this assumes you didn't fsck.
[06:51] <phoenix_> coz_: i think i found the problem
[06:51] <coz_> phoenix_,  what is it?
[06:51] <GuyCanada> maple syrup attacks are unwarranted
[06:51] <coz_> phoenix_,  and I cant find that version on sourceforge  but again I cant think clearly :)
[06:52] <phoenix_> coz_: the owner of the binary is root, how to change it to mine
[06:52] <coz_> phoenix_,  the easy way is to gksudo nautiluls...maneuver to to bin  and right click and change permissions
[06:52] <phoenix_> coz_: ok
[06:53] <willwh> GuyCanada: certainly not, I'm living in victoria - we're practically brothers.
[06:53] <coz_> ok I have to go
[06:53] <GuyCanada> lol, except we couldnt possibly be further away. im in nova scotia
[06:54] <GuyCanada> willwh ^
[06:54] <mneptok> GuyCanada: you could be in Labrador ...
[06:54] <willwh> ah indeed :) well, I'm from Edinburgh.
[06:54] <willwh> so... we are practically brothers
[06:54]  * mneptok adds an "eh?" for authenticity
[06:54] <willwh> I moved out here about 3 years ago, got permanent residency granted last year
[06:54] <willwh> the west coast suits me, I think.
[06:55] <robertwall> ubottu: ot
[06:55] <GuyCanada> east coast is where its at, lets engage in gang violence to prove who is right
[06:55] <willwh> see you in ot
[06:56] <GuyCanada> edinburgh, that sounds very english
[06:57] <logan_> Hi all
[06:57] <logan_> :)
[06:58] <willwh> hello logan_
[06:59] <logan_> hey is anyone using wine????
[06:59] <GuyCanada> not at the moment, but
[06:59] <logan_> I am having some trouble with it
[06:59] <willwh> logan_: what's the problem?
[06:59] <willwh> or rather, what are you trying to do?
[07:00] <logan_> whenever I am opening any application say yahoo msngr on it, the application stops responding after some time
[07:01] <willwh> don't use yahoo messenger
[07:01] <willwh> www.pidgin.im :)
[07:01] <Andyman> Does anyone here have vmware server 2.0 running on a Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS host?
[07:01] <logan_> after that I even tried a game I was playing on windows
[07:01] <logan_> prince of persia Two thrones and again after sometime it stopped responding
[07:02] <logan_> ???
[07:02] <logan_> I am a bit confused
[07:02] <logan_> what to do
[07:02] <willwh> Well - not used wine much myself - if I need to run a windows application (read: game) - I use windows
[07:03] <logan_> hmmm
[07:03] <GuyCanada> yeah wine is far from a perfect solution. only thing i use it for is voice programs for games, vent TS etc
[07:03] <GuyCanada> not exactly relaible
[07:03] <willwh> logan_: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=5612&iTestingId=13162
[07:04] <logan_> yeah
[07:05] <logan_> hey thanx willwh
[07:05] <logan_> :)
[07:05] <willwh> logan_: you know how to use a terminal?
[07:05] <logan_> yeah
[07:05] <logan_> I work on byobu alot
[07:05] <willwh> locate wine | grep log
[07:06] <logan_> hmm
[07:06] <willwh> find where it writes it's error log / log - and start from there
[07:06] <willwh> it probably crashed for a reason
[07:06] <logan_> ok
[07:06] <willwh> I have 2 boxes under my desk, win7 gaming rig, and ubuntu server on a headless box
[07:07] <willwh> laptop also runs ubuntu
[07:07] <logan_> ahhhh
[07:07] <Jordan_U> ry0n: Stop leaving :)
[07:07] <logan_> I see all the stuf now
[07:07] <logan_> cool
[07:07] <ry0n> Jordan_U, Sorry, was setting up and testing my auto-joins in xchat.
[07:07] <willwh> argh xchat :p quassel ftw.
[07:08]  * Blue1 is lazy and uses pidgin
[07:08] <MasonB> Ok, i don't have ndiswrapper installed on my ubuntu and i just downloaded a copy but don't know how to install it
[07:08] <Jordan_U> ry0n: How far into the resize do you think it was before you lost power?
[07:08] <MasonB> Can anyone help me?
[07:09] <Dude-X> which java should i install just to run a boring jar
[07:09] <Blue1> MasonB: usually (I don't use ndis I am on a 64 bit system) - - sudo dpkg -i <packagenamegoeshere>
[07:09] <Jordan_U> MasonB: Have you tried connecting via ethernet then going to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[07:09] <ry0n> Jordan_U, I actually have no idea. it was very early when I left (like 8% of the bar, still verifying or whatever) but I came back hours later and the system had rebooted.
[07:09] <MasonB> I don't have ethernet Jordan_U
[07:09] <Jordan_U> MasonB: ndiswrapper is rarely actually needed.
[07:09] <Blue1> MasonB: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[07:10] <Jordan_U> ry0n: Can you fit a full drive backup somewhere?
[07:10] <MasonB> so enter the name of the package of the ndiswrapper i downloaded?
[07:10] <Jordan_U> MasonB: Don't install ndiswrapper yet.
[07:10] <Jordan_U> MasonB: What wireless chipset?
[07:10] <XxcvfxX> how do i get a usb wireless card to work with ubuntu because i try connecting with the one i have and its not working
[07:11] <MasonB> All i know is that i have a broadcom 802.11 b/g WLAN card
[07:11] <ry0n> Jordan_U, size of physical drive or size of data on drive/
[07:11] <Jordan_U> ry0n: Size of physical drive.
[07:11] <ry0n> Hrm, I don't think I have 500gb free all in one place.
[07:12] <ry0n> I could back up the entirety of the two partition involved?
[07:12] <Blue1> ry0n: usually i just backup /home/ and /etc/
[07:12] <XxcvfxX> anyone?
[07:12] <Blue1> XxcvfxX: sorry never dealt with usb wirelss
[07:12] <willwh> XxcvfxX: are you able to see wireless networks?
[07:12] <ry0n> Jordan_U, what would that do for me if I could though?
[07:12] <willwh> you're not giving us much info
[07:12] <XxcvfxX> no
[07:13] <G1bs0N> back 2 wireless
[07:13] <willwh> ok, can you open a terminal and type, lsusb | grep -i wireless
[07:13] <Jordan_U> ry0n: It would mean that you could try possibly destructive fixes without worrying too much.
[07:13] <XxcvfxX> yea
[07:15] <ry0n> Hold on, what does the (c)opy feature in testdisk do?
[07:15] <ry0n> holy crap. no way
[07:15] <XxcvfxX> k now what?
[07:16] <willwh> XxcvfxX: ?
[07:16] <XxcvfxX> the thing someone told me to type
[07:16] <Jordan_U> ry0n: For a resize "to the left" testdisk may actually help. If you set the partition start back to where it was then the superblock might still be there and the filesystem might be still mountable. I don't know what the likelyhood of that is though.
[07:17] <Blue1> Jordan_U: big if.
[07:17] <willwh> XxcvfxX: that was me, what was the problem?
[07:17] <Jordan_U> Blue1: I know :(
[07:17] <XxcvfxX> it didnt say
[07:18] <willwh> ok, just 'lsbusb '
[07:18] <willwh> sorry
[07:18] <willwh> lsusb
[07:18] <ry0n> I hardly believe it, but the (c)opy feature in testdisk seems to be pulling files off the unmountable partition and dumping them in home?
[07:19] <willwh> ry0n: hoooray?
[07:19] <XxcvfxX> k heres what it showed, martin@martin-desktop:~$ lsusb
[07:19] <XxcvfxX> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 148f:2070 Ralink Technology, Corp.
[07:19] <XxcvfxX> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[07:19] <ry0n> ehr, perhaps it's just recreating the directory structure?
[07:19] <ry0n> I dunno, it's still sort of amazing.
[07:20] <ibrahim-kasem> please tell me what is the Novell Moonlight plugin ??
[07:20] <ry0n> oh, it's recreating the directory structure and the files but the files are all unreadable.
[07:20] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : type iwconfig
[07:20] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : type iwlist
[07:21] <XxcvfxX> k
[07:21] <tasslehoff> are there any alternatives to gtkterm and minicom?
[07:22] <Blue1> ibrahim-kasem: http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Novel-Moonlight-Download-37840.html
[07:22] <XxcvfxX> it returned this, martin@martin-desktop:~$ iwconfig
[07:22] <XxcvfxX> lo        no wireless extensions.
[07:22] <XxcvfxX> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[07:22] <XxcvfxX> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[07:22] <XxcvfxX>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=9 dBm
[07:22] <FloodBot3> XxcvfxX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:22] <XxcvfxX>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[07:22] <willwh> softpefia should be shot in the face
[07:22] <G1bs0N> so your good
[07:23] <willwh> ibrahim-kasem: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/
[07:23] <G1bs0N> what is the issue
[07:23] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : /etc/init.d/networking start
[07:23] <ibrahim-kasem> Blue1, thank you
[07:23] <Blue1> ibrahim-kasem: you are welcome - hope that helps
[07:25] <hariom> Hi, I am facing a strange problem. I have a TCP/IP server running on my localhost on a defined port. I am trying to connect it with my client application but getting message like refusing connection. WHat could be the problem?
[07:27] <hariom> When I run server, I can see different ports opening on localhost using trafshow tool
[07:27] <smw> hariom, do you use iptables or any other firewall software?
[07:27] <XxcvfxX> G1bs0N: what do i do with that?
[07:27] <vivek312> need help on bootloader..
[07:27] <hariom> smw: yea firestarter
[07:28] <smw> hariom, have you checked it?
[07:28] <hariom> But I don't think, firewall affect anything on localhost
[07:28] <smw> hariom, my guess is that it setup default deny
[07:28] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : what is your goal
[07:28] <hariom> It was working yesterday with firewall on. Iet me try by turning it off
[07:29] <vivek312> my bootloader shows many options...!!
[07:29] <smw> hariom, my guess is that firestarter allows localhost to connect anywhere. But the client can't.
[07:29] <XxcvfxX> G1bs0N, to get my wireless card to work
[07:29] <hariom> client is also running on localhost and connecting to lcoalhost
[07:29] <juboba> how can I run a program in a specific display (using dualhead, two separate X screens)
[07:29] <juboba> in fluxbox: how can I run a program in a specific display (using dualhead, two separate X screens)
[07:29] <smw> hariom, ok
[07:30] <smw> !who | hariom
[07:30] <hariom> ubottu: sure. will do that
[07:31] <vivek312> ubottu can u help ?
[07:31] <smw> lol
[07:31] <vivek312> ubottu,my bootloader shows many options...!!
[07:31] <vivek312> ubottu: my bootloader shows many options...!!
[07:31] <ry0n> ubottu, how do I make *her* notice me?
[07:31] <willwh> vivek312: remove some kernels
[07:31] <GuyCanada> ubottu calculate pi
[07:32] <vivek312> willwh: can u tell me how?
[07:32] <smw> !botabuse
[07:32] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : /etc/init.d/networking start
[07:32] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : /etc/init.d/networking start force reload
[07:33] <timemachine3030> Question: in 10.04, running dual monitors. how do I swap which monitor has the menu bars / panels? (nvidia drivers)
[07:33] <vivek312> willwh: can u explain??
[07:33] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : ifup wlan0
[07:33] <yacc> 30849 andreas   20   0 3142m 2.0g 8936 R   61 26.9  22:57.26 pidgin             <= this can't me right, 3G size and 2G resident?
[07:33] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : ifup wlan1
[07:33] <neil_d> I have a new laptop :) ... I have installed 10.04 :)... I am trying to get it playing DVDs ... I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras plus mplayer mencode and vlc... I have run the /usr/share/doc/libdvdread/install
[07:33] <willwh> vivek312: http://jaypeeonline.net/tips-tricks/howto-remove-old-ubuntu-kernels/
[07:33] <willwh> for example
[07:33]  * neil_d oops
[07:33] <valetudo> is this the right place for ubuntu iphone sync? just need to know how to add videos
[07:34] <neil_d> and the install css script but it isn't playing.
[07:35] <neil_d> I keep getting errors from libdvdread
[07:35] <Jordan_U> !pm | MasonB
[07:35] <valetudo> how do i add video to iphone with ubuntu
[07:36] <BSanders84> Hello All!
[07:36] <valetudo> do i have to get itunes?
[07:36] <vivek312> willwh: Thanks....
[07:36] <smw> valetudo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone might help
[07:37] <MasonB> Ok, how do i get my wireless working without using NDISWrapper
[07:37] <Jordan_U> MasonB: First download these files and put them onto your Desktop in Ubuntu using a flash drive: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/b43-firmware-lucid.tar.gz http://jordanu.dyndns.org/b43legacy-firmware-lucid.tar.gz
[07:37] <valetudo> k thanks
[07:37] <smw> valetudo, most people here probably don't have an ipod...
[07:37] <well_laid_lawn> !iphone | valetudo
[07:37] <MasonB> Save those to a flash drive Jordan?
[07:38] <morphles> is there a way to boot ubuntu (posibli by editign grub entry in grub menu) into kinda emergency/single user mode, that would have root filesystem mounted readonly or not mounted at all, and would that mode have dd available?
[07:38] <smw> MasonB, can you plug into the network?
[07:38] <MasonB> i don't have a home connection
[07:38] <MasonB> i use wifi
[07:38] <XxcvfxX> G1bs0N, wireless networks still dont show up
[07:38] <Jordan_U> MasonB: Yes.
[07:39] <MasonB> ok, now once they are on the desktop what do i do?
[07:39] <MasonB> Install them?
[07:39] <smw> MasonB, are you sure you have a broadcom wireless chip?
[07:39] <MasonB> Yes
[07:39] <MasonB> I have broadcom BCM43xx
[07:39] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : your out of range or
[07:39] <yacc> morphles, well, the option 1 should boot you into init level 1, but no idea if that applies with modern distros anymore. "init=/bin/sh rw" added to the kernel cmdline should give you the shell as "init process" and rw mounted root fs, again no idea how it interacts with initrd ;)
[07:40] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : its a driver configuration
[07:40] <Andyman> Hi, did anyone here install vmware sever 2.02 on Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS?
[07:40] <smw> MasonB, the easiest way is to find a place to plugin and run the hardware driver manager.
[07:40] <mrpinky> Hi, I accidentally "remove from panel" my volume control, how can I get it back?
[07:40] <G1bs0N> andyman: ya
[07:40] <smw> MasonB, or install b43-fwcutter (but that still needs internet to install)
[07:40] <morphles> yacc: well i need root o not be mounted or to be mounted readonly :) since i winat to copy hdd image of whole drive containing root filesystem
[07:40] <Jordan_U> MasonB: You open a terminal and run "sudo tar -C /lib/firmware -xf Desktop/b43-firmware-lucid.tar.gz; sudo tar -C /lib/firmware -xf Desktop/b43legacy-firmware-lucid.tar.gz"
[07:41] <Andyman> G1bs0N: Did you get it working properly? I managed to install it using raducotescu's script but I cannot reach the guest from the host.
[07:41] <XxcvfxX> G1bs0N, im right next to my router
[07:41] <XxcvfxX> G1bs0N, and it still dosent show up
[07:42] <G1bs0N> andyman: yea I am having issues try a fresh install
[07:42] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : its the driver
[07:43] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : or the usb adapter i have the same issue with one of mine
[07:44] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : try iwlist wlan0 frequency
[07:44] <mrpinky> Hi, I accidentally "remove from panel" my volume control, how can I get it back?
[07:44] <Andyman> G1bs0N: Fresh install of vmware or Ubuntu? Ubuntu was installed a month ago and is up-to-date. I reinstalled vmware several times because I cannot reach the guest.. It seems the virtual network switch isn't working properly.
[07:44] <yacc> morphles, well, do you use LVM?
[07:44] <MasonB> Jordan_U: will that make my Linux able to use wireless internet?
[07:44] <Blue1> mrpinky: private message okay?
[07:44] <yacc> morphles, then replace rw with ro
[07:44] <Jordan_U> MasonB: Hopefully, yes.
[07:45] <mrpinky> Blue1, of course :)
[07:45] <MasonB> ok
[07:45] <MasonB> i be right back
[07:45] <XxcvfxX> G1bs0N, k now what?
[07:46] <Jordan_U> morphles: Any reason you can't use a LiveCD?
[07:46] <morphles> yacc: lvm as in? dunno probably not, if that requires any special steps
[07:46] <yacc> morphles, btw, it's not nice, but as long as the system is idle (single user mode), you can do a backup with a mounted root fs => on restore the kernel will do just a log replay, no problem => the critical thing is that the fs needs to be idle through the whole backup.
[07:46] <morphles> well whe place where ill be copyng images migth not have cdroms
[07:46] <yacc> morphles, well the normal installer does not create it.
[07:46] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : type iwlist
[07:46] <G1bs0N> XxcvfxX : type iwlist look at options
[07:46] <morphles> those are quite oldish pcs at school that likely have thier cdroms broken :)
[07:46] <yacc> morphles, LVM would allow you to do a consistent backup on a running system by doing a snapshot of the root filesystem logical volume ;)
[07:47] <morphles> and it would do to where? network?
[07:47] <yacc> morphles, without LVM you need to get the system idle enough that nothing is writing to the fs for the whole time of the backup, ...
[07:47] <yacc> morphles, LVM just creates a snapshot, what you do with that "other" block device is up to you.
[07:48] <morphles> but i doubt those pcs have enough ram and or hdd space well the have only one hdd that is fully used
[07:48] <yacc> morphles, so you can create /dev/vg00/root_fs_snapshot that is a consistent atomic snapshot of /dev/vg00/root_fs and you can than backup that.
[07:48] <yacc> morphles, well, what are you trying to do?
[07:48] <prakash> hi any one there ?
[07:49] <G1bs0N> no
[07:49] <morphles> well i have hdd that has to be duplicated to severl pcs
[07:49] <Krowten> :) hello
[07:49] <G1bs0N> dam 1337 people in here
[07:49] <morphles> as in fully
[07:49] <ibrahim-kasem>  guys do you know how to wvdial ? or gnome-ppp ?
[07:49] <G1bs0N> fuck
[07:49] <G1bs0N> srry
[07:49] <morphles> with dd if=/dev/sda
[07:49] <FloodBot3> G1bs0N: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <morphles> so im probably stuck with livecds :)
[07:49] <G1bs0N> The ubuntu channel is at 1337
[07:49] <yacc> morphles, using what media? network? external USB hdd? DVDs?
[07:50] <morphles> most likely i connect empty/unprepared drives to system having prepared drive
[07:50] <morphles> i cant relly on the network there
[07:51] <XxcvfxX> how do u create ur own chat channel?
[07:51] <morphles> XxcvfxX: you should google irc 101 maybe? :)
[07:51] <Madpilot> XxcvfxX, if you /join a channel that doesn't already exist, it gets created as you join it. It'll vanish as soon as it's empty again.
[07:52] <well_laid_lawn> XxcvfxX: type /j #XxcvfxX   and see
[07:53] <yacc> morphles, well than just use a live cd, copy /dev/sda to /dev/sdb or whatever, mount it, and fix /etc as needed (you do not want all boxes to come up with the same hostname or say the same static IP), ...
[07:53] <morphles> well its dhcp to ips shouldnt be problem
[07:54] <neil_d> I have a new laptop :) ... I have installed 10.04 :)... I am trying to get it playing DVDs ... I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras plus mplayer mencode and vlc... I have run the /usr/share/doc/libdvdread/install/install-css.sh ... both mplayer and lsdvd report an error like "libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in /buid/buildd/libdvdread-4.1.3/src/ifo_read.c...." can anyone help?
[07:55] <Jordan_U> neil_d: Are there any io errors in dmesg?
[07:59] <gsedej> hi! Have Kubuntu 10.04. VLC is not supposed to run as root. How to open file on my mounted sshfs?
[08:00] <neil_d> Jordan_U: maybe this is important I have several '[sr0] Add. Sense: Media region code is mismatched to logical unit region'
[08:00] <Aerec> hello
[08:01] <Aerec> Just installed ubuntu for the first time
[08:01] <Aerec> No idea what im doing...is this the right channel to get some help?
[08:03] <neil_d> Jordan_U: as this computer boots windows 7 maybe it has set the region of the DVD to an incorrect value.
[08:05] <yacc> Aerec, just ask, ...
[08:06] <skumara> i'm using acer 4741z. just install ubuntu lucid amd64. ubuntu did not detect the wifi. iwconfig says no wireless extension. somebody help/
[08:06] <skumara> ?
[08:07] <gopher2x>  can someone suggest a chat room where i can get general help using make for a C (not c++) program?
[08:07] <skumara> i'm using acer 4741z. just install ubuntu lucid amd64. ubuntu did not detect the wifi. iwconfig says no wireless extension. somebody help?
[08:07] <morphles> gopher2x:  try googlin make tutorial
[08:08] <morphles> will be more usefull
[08:08] <Aerec> no clue where to start yacc...I cant even figure out how to install software
[08:08] <Aerec> cant even find software I downloaded
[08:09] <yacc> Aerec, well, with Linux you usually just don't download software and install it, you use the software management tool.
[08:09] <Aerec> the synaptic package manager?
[08:09] <yacc> So in the Ubuntu menu you should have a point like Software, e.g. synaptic ;)
[08:09] <Aerec> ya I found that
[08:09] <Aerec> clicked on xchat
[08:10] <Aerec> it installed some files I think
[08:10] <Aerec> no idea where to find xchat if it did install
[08:10] <yacc> Aerec, the point is, with Linux you've got basicall the following sorts of software: packages prepackaged for your distribution, source distributed packages that you need to compile/install and the last one would be 3rd party binary installers, which are usually seldom.
[08:10] <yacc> Aerec, press Alt-F2 and type xchat [Enter]
[08:11] <yacc> Aerec, it will give you an error if you have it not installed or start xchat.
[08:11] <Aerec> oh nice
[08:11] <yacc> Aerec, I'd expect it to be in the Internet group of the menu, btw, ...
[08:11] <Aerec> that worked
[08:12] <Aerec> what would be the same as windows c drive? or is ubuntu completely different?
[08:12] <piaocn> i  got an Intel 5100agn Wireless card and i want to change its MAC address to<PHONE_NUMBER>e4 automaticly when ubuntu starts and before it searches and connects to the network  , what should i do...
[08:12] <yacc> Aerec, one of the issues that make Linux support such a pain is that it by default translates itself, so I cannot tell you the exact strings you have to look for, because my Gnome uses German strings, ...
[08:12] <yacc> Aerec, Unix/Linux has no concept of drives.
[08:13] <Aerec> k
[08:13] <yacc> Aerec, In Unix you have the filesystem and "partitions/drives" can be mounted somewhere, ...
[08:13] <ry0n> maybe they mean "physical disk" when they say drive.
[08:13] <yacc> Aerec, so if you have say a Windows C: on the box, I'd expect it somewhere in /media/ to be mounted.
[08:14] <yacc> ry0n, still, Unix has no concept of "drive letter" as CPM/DOS/Windows ;)
[08:14] <ranjan> Hi all is there any problem with the plymouth of ubuntu lucid??? In my laptop sometimes it doesnt shows the plymouth at all.
[08:14] <yacc> Aerec, so your home directory is usually in /home/USERNAME
[08:14] <piaocn> so no one can help....
[08:14] <morphles> unix way is better :)
[08:15] <yacc> Aerec, software is installed under different prefixes (/, /usr, /usr/local or /opt) depending upon a number of properties, but you do not care usually, because the PATH is setup so that it will just find the program as needed.
[08:15] <Aerec> k
[08:15] <yacc> morphles, well modern Windowses can also mount devices onto some directory.
[08:15] <earthmeLon> piaocn /etc/network/interfaces.  research hwaddress
[08:16] <morphles> they have that ability but thats not default :)
[08:16] <Aerec> I tried to view youtube
[08:16] <Aerec> says I need flash
[08:16] <yacc> Aerec, in Gnome all devices (e.g. Windows partitions, USB storage devices, ...) should show up as icons on your desktop, just double click on them.
[08:16] <yacc> synaptic => search for flash
[08:16] <Aerec> k
[08:16] <morphles> but the thing that makes me dispise windows most is registry, and its kinda sad for me that gnome is trying something very much like registry :(
[08:17] <morphles> everything is file ftw  :D
[08:17] <yacc> morphles, well, I switch from time to time, when I cannot fathom Gnome or KDE anymore to something like ion3 ;)
[08:18] <morphles> i used to be big fan of fluxbox, well still amd, but iuse kde :)
[08:18] <yacc> morphles, that's not completely true, in some ways, e.g. SysV IPC does not follow the "everything has a file handle" philosophy, but yes, ...
[08:18] <morphles> although kde is in sory state on ubuntu :(
[08:18] <Aerec> thnx for the help yacc...im liking Ubuntu a lot more then win7 now :)
[08:18] <loxs> is there some meta-package to install all that is needed to compile programs?
[08:18] <G1bs0N> lol
[08:19] <earthmeLon> loxs build-essential
[08:20] <earthmeLon> loxs and if you need something to edit files in, try geany
[08:20] <yacc> morphles, basically ioctl is the syscall that kills somehow the everything is a file dream, ...
[08:20] <loxs> earthmeLon, no, thanks, I have Emacs :D
[08:20] <earthmeLon> ^_^
[08:20] <Aerec> where can i view the current system resource usage?
[08:20] <ibrahim-kasem> did you try installing nokia pc suit using wine ??
[08:20] <morphles> hm im not too familiar with ioctl
[08:20] <neil_d> I think "windows 7" might have changed the region of my DVD drive in my new laptop :(  how can I find out what region it is now set to?
[08:21] <yacc> Aerec, why would you care?
[08:21] <yacc> Aerec, there are probably a number of GUI apps for this somewhere in the Gnome menu, but it's usually really not an issue.
[08:21] <GuyCanada> i think the region stuff goes beyond software. i dont think u can jsut up and change it. at least without a lot of effort
[08:22] <etherealite> Region doesn't even matter
[08:22] <GuyCanada> not that i know anyhting about it but if it were so easy everyone would be switching their dvd regions to places where its easy to pirate dvds id imagine
[08:22] <GuyCanada> again. i know litterally nothing but thats my thinking
[08:22] <yacc> Aerec, plus "resources" in the Windows sense there aren't any. There are stuff like CPU load or memory usage, and especially this is often misinterpreted => free memory on a Linux box as such is bad => much better to use it for cache, ...
[08:23] <yacc> Aerec, but WindowsXP users complain usually that all the memory is taken rather quickly, ...
[08:23] <etherealite> pretty sure that if all your doing is playing movies with Linux, then region doesn't matter at all.
[08:23] <yacc> Aerec, but in fact that's a good thing.
[08:23] <BSanders84> normally you can only change your region like 3 or 4 times i believe...
[08:23] <earthmeLon> DVDBurning/playing is still affected by region, eh?
[08:24] <Simeon_H> I hate cyberlink so much
[08:24] <etherealite> unless your using commercial DVD playinga and burning software, I don't see what the problem is
[08:24] <Aerec> neil_d you can download DISC info and it will tell you what region ur drive is
[08:24] <etherealite> don't use cyberlink, its awful.
[08:24] <Simeon_H> has anybody ever gotten powerdvd linux to work in lucid?
[08:24] <etherealite> why would yo uwant to?
[08:24] <Simeon_H> well I'm $50 poorer now
[08:24] <Simeon_H> :(
[08:25] <Simeon_H> I don't even remember why I bought it
[08:25] <etherealite> Simeon_H I don't see how your making such a big deal out of a non issue.
[08:25] <Simeon_H> I was probably drunk
[08:25] <morphles> those region codes are retarded...
[08:25] <Simeon_H> but I bought it
[08:25] <Simeon_H> and I want the software I paid for to work
[08:26] <etherealite> software you never should have paid for
[08:26] <etherealite> or use
[08:26] <Aerec> wow, think I just fell in love with ubuntu
[08:26] <loxs> earthmeLon, build-essential didn't install aclocal, automake, autoconf
[08:28] <Aerec> looking at this system monitor, my cpu isnt going over 2%...windows7 I would run about ~30% with the same amount of windows open
[08:28] <yacc> etherealite, region code nowadays is implemented in the DVD hardware, so it applies to Linux too, sorry, complain to Hollywood ;)
[08:28] <earthmeLon> loxs.  Im pretty sure build-essential (sudo apt-get install build-essential) will install those.  You can check the build-essential package page
[08:28] <Simeon_H> nero linux was certainly worth the money though
[08:28] <etherealite> yacc you mus be kidding me
[08:28] <yacc> etherealite, nope, the fact that it's done in hardware has been mandated nowadays for quite some time, ...
[08:29] <yacc> etherealite, so some people end up with having multiple DVD drives.
[08:29] <skumara> i'm using acer 4741z. just install ubuntu lucid amd64. ubuntu did not detect the wifi. iwconfig says no wireless extension?
[08:29] <Aerec> yacc If I wanna uninstall something what would I do?
[08:29] <yacc> etherealite, well, I personally dislike hardware media anyway, prefer to rip it to my dreambox, anyway.
[08:29] <yacc> Aerec, synaptic
[08:29] <etherealite> yacc, so you can't rip the image at all without proper region?
[08:29] <Simeon_H> if you're talking about the region coding it is possible to reflash your drive
[08:30] <Simeon_H> which will at least reset the counter
[08:30] <Aerec> dvd reagion killer
[08:30] <Aerec> unlock ur drive
[08:30] <yacc> etherealite, yeah, it all depends slightly on the hardware, not every vendor implements it as hardcore, but yes.
[08:30] <Simeon_H> and usually you can downgrade to RCP1
[08:30] <yacc> Simeon_H, that depends upon the drive.
[08:30] <Aerec> dvd region* killer
[08:30] <etherealite> oh man, this is very saddening
[08:31] <Simeon_H> or if you're handy with a soldering iron like me you can probably modchip it somehow
[08:31] <yacc> etherealite, not really, the sad part is that with a 100mbit cable connection, dvds start to be so yesterday, ...
[08:31] <etherealite> yacc who has 100mbit in the usa
[08:31] <neil_d> Aerec: how do I download DISK info?
[08:31] <morphles> and movie companies wonder why people go the way of "piracy"
[08:31] <yacc> etherealite, well, what shall I say, in Europe you can usually only get it in cities, ...
[08:32] <etherealite> yacc can you steal it like in the USA?
[08:32] <yacc> etherealite, e.g. my dad in the suburbs can get only 50mbit or so.
[08:32] <robertwall> ubottu: ot
[08:32] <robertwall> ubottu: piracy
[08:32] <skumara> is this ubuntu support channel?
[08:32] <hunterm> yes
[08:33] <Aerec> google it neil_d
[08:33] <Aerec> ur using widows right?
[08:33] <Simeon_H> I reserve my right to make backups of my dvd's so I can carry them around without worrying if they get damaged
[08:33] <skumara> got anyone know how to enable wireless in laptop?
[08:33] <Simeon_H> even if I don't legally have that right
[08:33] <Aerec> assuming u are since u said "ur windows7 changed something"
[08:33] <morphles> skumara: id say if it doesnt work right out the box chances are good it will hardly work
[08:34] <morphles> or will at least need good deal of tinkering
[08:34] <skumara> oh .. boy. i just bought this laptop!!!
[08:34] <Aerec> skumara most laptops have a key with a blue Fn on it or some other lettering and another key like one of the Fkeys will toggle the wifi
[08:34] <techwizrd> Is there any way I can remap a drag right-click to emulate a scroll wheel? My bamboo pen tablet has no scrolling functionality and it's quite irksome. Any ideas?
[08:34] <yacc> Simeon_H, don't want to kill your dreams, but see the copyright EU directive and the DMCA, you have no right to break DRM systems just to backup.
[08:35] <abhijit> hiyaaa!!! :)
[08:35] <Simeon_H> as I said, I don't care if I don't have the right, I still reserve it
[08:35] <Simeon_H> :p
[08:35] <Simeon_H> plus I'm not covered by either of those laws
[08:35] <Blue1> is there a port that needs to be open in my router to do irc file transfers?
[08:35] <morphles> techwizrd: probably there is , in linux ther is a way for almost anything:D but i dont know how one goes about doing that
[08:36] <babu__> whenever i tried to modify the tag using easytag,it shows an error as the file may be read-only,don't have permission to edit the file......wat to do
[08:36] <morphles> Blue1: i suggest googlgink irc dcc
[08:36] <skumara> Aerec, that icon u said enable my bluetooth, but it does not enable wifi. in windows that button bring up a menu that can enable both bluetooth and wifi.
[08:36] <neil_d> Aerec: I have been using google for the last couple of hours... It seems the the DVD vendor Matshita might be enforcing region encoding in the firmware.
[08:36] <Blue1> morphles: no, I new client wont fix it - we've tried it with xchat and pidgin 0- no worka
[08:36] <morphles> Blue1:  im not suggesting new client...
[08:37] <skumara> is the any way we can reconfigure the Fn button function?
[08:37] <morphles> dcc is protocl witch is used to send file over irc
[08:37] <Aerec> neil_d -> http://discinfo.rpc1.org/
[08:37] <morphles> google about it and youll find port needed
[08:37] <morphles> i guess
[08:37] <morphles> but im not sure
[08:37] <FloodBot3> morphles: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:37] <techwizrd> morphles: I was thinking I could edit my xorg.conf, but the relevant options only apply to /dev/input/mice, not /dev/input/wacom.
[08:37] <Blue1> morphles: sorry that is beyond my knowledge level then
[08:37] <abhijit> from the first day of my ubuntu i have used this scheme: default account for admin purpose and new standard non-sudo accoutn for me for day to day use. is it the recommended way? or i just use the default admin account as my day to day purpose account?
[08:37] <abhijit> suggestion ^^
[08:37] <Aerec> that will tell you what region you are on, if you need to you can use DVD Region Killer to unlock the drive
[08:38] <Simeon_H> maybe, just maybe if I recompile python2.5 from source and break everything powerdvd will work
[08:38] <Simeon_H> haha
[08:38] <etherealite> Hey, I've got a dual head system, both systems have completely different aspect ratios. Therefore there is a large amount of non-visible desktop area. Is there a way I can keep my self from dragging windows into this area and loosing them?
[08:38] <babu__> pls reply for me
[08:39] <abhijit> suggestion pleas?
[08:39] <morphles> Blue1: enter "irc dcc port forwarding" in gogloe without (") and read first link, should give you an idea, althoug its about mirc i think youll be able to handle that ;)
[08:40] <Blue1> morphles: I will have to research it - I have never seen googlgink
[08:41] <morphles> Blue1: what i meant is first result of search
[08:42] <abhijit> hmm???
[08:42] <morphles> abhijit: your ways is not bad :) but i wouldnt worry too much of using sudoing account as default, but using other user is safer
[08:42] <abhijit> morphles, yah
[08:43] <blue-frog> trying to restrict login hours for the user "test". Added   ssh;*;test;Al0900-1000    to /etc/security/time.conf  and added    account requisite pam_time.so  in /etc/pam.d/common-account  (I also tried in /etc/pam.d/login). I even rebooted the computer afterwards. The user "test" can still ssh while the time restriction should occur. What am I missing?
[08:44] <Aerec> is there a good video converter for ubuntu?
[08:44] <abhijit> Aerec, mobile media convertor
[08:44] <morphles> Aerec: tryy searching for mencoder gui or frontend i guess
[08:44] <Blue1> morphles: wa kari masu.  domo
[08:45] <morphles> Blue1:  :D
[08:45] <yacc> Aerec, that depends, you start with avidemux
[08:45] <Kangarooo> hello whats the name of programm that every 20-30 comp startups makes filesystem check?
[08:46] <yacc> Aerec, there are a number of commandline tools that are quite useful if you need to do batch converting, ...
[08:46] <robertwall> Kangarooo: fsck
[08:46] <yacc> (e.g. mencoder that can play almost anything as mplayer and encode it)
[08:46] <morphles> yeah mplayer mencoder are super programas :D
[08:47] <Kangarooo> robertwall: can u tell me also package name? tryd finding using whereis fsck didnt helped
[08:47] <Pax> Hello.
[08:48] <Aerec> eh accidently closed irc...I missed the answer if anyone responded, whats a good video converter for ubuntu?
[08:48] <robertwall> Kangarooo: Depends on the filesystem you're using. What are you trying to do that's prompting these questions?
[08:48] <morphles> does ubuntu still dont have ability to fetch dist upgrade packages using torrents?
[08:48] <abhijit> Aerec, mobile media convertor
[08:48] <morphles> Aerec:  or some gui / frontend for mencoder
[08:48] <morphles>  or just mencoder if you can handle it :D
[08:48] <Aerec> mobile? does that deal with just mobile formats?
[08:49] <abhijit> Aerec, it deals with all formats
[08:49] <Kangarooo> robertwall: i want to post bug report about programm that runs on every20-30 startup checking filesystem i have ext4
[08:49] <robertwall> Kangarooo: e2fsprogs
[08:49] <yacc> Aerec, avidemux is okay for some stuff too.
[08:49] <snow_> hi
[08:49] <Kangarooo> thx robertwall
[08:50] <morphles> so is there any way to fetch packages needed for distribution upgrade using torrents?
[08:51] <Ichat> when i want to connect to  smb shares on windows 7 professional  -  its seams that i cant connect to the shares most of the time ...    givving me a dbus error ...  i allready de-installed MSN-Live (all components).  but to no luck.. i seam to be able to list al shares but mounting them fails. i worked before but now i doesn't ...  any tips where to look would be helpfull i guess.
[08:52] <robertwall> morphles: nope. The only supported way to upgrade from one version of Ubuntu to another is with the upgrade tool, which only supports direct downloads.
[08:52] <robertwall> !upgrade
[08:52] <morphles> :(
[08:52] <Ichat> cant you upgrade from cdrom??
[08:52] <abhijit> Ichat, you can
[08:52] <ikonia> Ichat: you can if you use the alternative cd
[08:53] <Ichat> well torrent the ISO mount it and upgrade than - right?
[08:53] <morphles> but it will be just part of packages as i understand
[08:53] <abhijit> !alternate | Ichat
[08:53] <Pax> I screwed up my video on startup.  I'm in recovery mode right now, but the only option that works is "run Ubuntu in low resolution mode for one session".  Preferences -> Monitor won't let me change resolution.  How can I get Ubuntu to redetect graphics?
[08:53] <morphles> Pax:  whats your video card?
[08:55] <Pax> ATI Radeon 1800XL All-In-Wonder
[08:55] <Ichat> pax,  removing xorg.conf  could do the trick   -
[08:55] <morphles> Pax: well i have no expirience with ati so i cant help
[08:55] <Pax> It WAS working, but I messed up my configuration.
[08:56] <morphles> Pax: maybe you have beckup?
[08:56] <Pax> -lchat Just remove xorg.conf, then reboot?
[08:56] <morphles> backup*
[08:56] <Ichat> yups
[08:57] <Ichat> if it doesn't work ati uses its own configuration... in that case  removing xorgs config file first and uninstalling / reinstalling the ati driver should do
[08:57] <Pax> 'morples No backup I know of.
[08:57] <morphles> no need tyo reboot i think, just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:57] <Pax> Where is xorg.conf?
[08:58] <Ichat> (remember if uninstalling ati driver.... to 'make it completely removing it (thus WITH the conig files)
[08:58] <morphles> hm Pax how did you mess up your config while not knowing where xorg.conf is?
[08:58] <Ichat> morphles:  -  gui :)
[08:58] <morphles>  :)
[08:58] <morphles> trminal ftw :)
[08:59] <Pax> Was trying to resize Ubuntu bigger, and WinXP smaller.
[08:59] <Ichat> $   /etc/x11/xorg.conf   (i think)
[08:59] <yacc> morphles, well, I'd guess that the upgrade tool does internally an apt-get dist-upgrade too, after fixing the configuration files, so you can probably use apt-torrent as a source. OTOH, why do you care? *g*
[08:59] <morphles> yacc: i have quite slow net connection, and torrents are much more flexible :)
[09:00] <Ichat> yacc:  - is there an apt-torrent :$ - lol really???
[09:00] <yacc> morphles, well, torrents with a slow net connection are still slow.
[09:01] <yacc> Ichat, yeah, although I never managed to set it up, ...
[09:01] <morphles> but they are better at resuming
[09:01] <morphles> speed managment etc
[09:01] <Aerec> how do u do the cube rotation effect?
[09:01] <yacc> Ichat, I can live well enough with a locla mirror.
[09:01] <yacc> morphles, not really.
[09:01] <morphles> Aerec: you need compiz
[09:01] <Aerec> I have it set up already...just dont know how to actually do it
[09:01] <yacc> morphles, http can easily resume and apt does use the Range header.
[09:01] <Pax> Hmmm, no /etc/x11/xorg.conf   - do have xorg.conf.failsafe
[09:02] <morphles> Aerec: check configuration, and see what are the bindings, if its enabled it most likely is ctrl+alt+mouseclick and drag
[09:02] <yacc> morphles, and TCP has builtin bandwidth management that torrents don't have, well with torrents it partially depends upon your client.
[09:02] <morphles> yacc: i just basicly runt upgrade tool trhour severl days?
[09:02] <morphles> run it then cancel then run it again nex day, all should be well?
[09:03] <yacc> morphles, well the upgrade tool first downloads all needed packages, and then it does apply the packages.
[09:03] <soreau> Pax: Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the failed session?
[09:03] <blue-frog> *;*;test;!Al0900-1000  works  but   ssh;*;test;!Al0900-1000  does not (meaning test can ssh).  An idea?
[09:03] <yacc> morphles, actually not sure about that, but if the upgrade tool gets aborted, the worst that can happen is that you will need to run apt-get dist-upgrade yourself, ...
[09:03] <morphles> or best i take my pc to may gf, she has awsome connection :D dlding will be doen in no time :D
[09:04] <yacc> morphles, define awesome ;)
[09:05] <morphles>  10Mbit i think :)
[09:05] <morphles> compared to my ~1Mbit :D
[09:05] <Jigal> how to install java6openjdk?
[09:05] <morphles> Jigal: probably as any other stuf? using synaptic
[09:06] <Jigal> morphles, found it $ sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[09:07] <babu__> whenever i tried to modify the tag using easytag,it shows an error as the file may be read-only,don't have permission to edit the file......wat to do
[09:07] <yacc> Jigal, that's just the cmdline equivalent of synaptic
[09:07] <Aerec> one of the keybindings is <super>e
[09:07] <Aerec> what is that?
[09:07] <Ichat> yacc:  -  i never understood why  torrent isn't used  for dist-upgrade  and  new iso releases   - i can emagin that some poeple rahter not have to pay for upload, but it would be usefull for download speeds of it was made harder for people to NOT choos http/ftp downloads.
[09:08] <yacc> Ichat, that's not really true.
[09:08] <yacc> Ichat, torrents work only good for stable files.
[09:08] <yacc> Ichat, because most users have a much bigger down-pipe.
[09:09] <morphles> yacc: but most user wont be downloading packages all the time while they could seed for much longer
[09:09] <yacc> Ichat, hence for "new files" where 99.999% of the users want to fetch it, you won't have much better download rates than the average upload rate of all interested peers, ...
[09:09] <morphles> event if every user just givs 5KBps if you have 100k users its quite some :
[09:10] <yacc> morphles, well, actually most users will want to have the upgrades ASAP => so you'll be usually in "initial seeding" mode which is slow.
[09:10] <yacc> morphles, just take any random file from a tracker, that is new and has only one seeder and see how fast you can download.
[09:10] <morphles> well upload could be not capped while user is also downloading packages
[09:10] <morphles> yeah i know
[09:10] <fourcolors> hi, I just installed a ubuntu server and am setting up passenger, just wondering where I should be putting my passenger.config file (Best Practices wise that is0
[09:10] <morphles> but original seed would be on couple of ubuntu servers
[09:10] <fourcolors> also are there any special commands I should know about
[09:10] <morphles> and could give enough of start boost
[09:11] <morphles> it wouldnt be some poor person with 10Mbps  upload :)
[09:11] <yacc> morphles, as I have a 100/10mbit connection, I often download such files with 50KB while uploading with >500KB/s to other peers => good for the ratio, but not as fast as a dedicated distributed server network (which is what Ubuntu mirrors amount to).
[09:11] <Ichat> 5kb per user, would still be 5% overall increase in speeds,   - it would offload the servers for quite a bit..     - without costing to mutch.
[09:12] <Ichat> note any mbit saved on the ubuntu servers  save cononical money...... cash better spend on the devolopment of new code for the next version
[09:12] <yacc> Ichat, again, torrents are used for CD/DVD images which are relatively longliving. deb packages OTOH, often can change multiple times daily, ...
[09:13] <morphles> yeah i think i stand correct yacc seems to be very correct :
[09:13] <yacc> Ichat, but Ubuntu is not delivered mostly from Canonical, it's delivered mostly from mirror servers that are usually sponsored by somebody else.
[09:13] <fam_> Can we have a short thread in german here?
[09:14] <ikonia> no
[09:14] <ikonia> please use ubuntu-de for german chat
[09:14] <fam_> merci!
[09:14] <Ichat> yacc, thats why i talked about distupgrades and  iso only - those are  big packages  and everybody wants them at teh same time
[09:15] <yacc> But distupgrades are dynamic too.
[09:15] <yacc> and isos are done already via torrents.
[09:15] <yacc> dist-upgrade is dynamic.
[09:15] <yacc> If you do and distribution upgrade it will upgrade to the newest versions of the relevant packages.
[09:17] <Ichat> hmmz.
[09:17] <ZERO_COOL> No HDMI output from laptop?
[09:17] <Jigal> hello trying to instal java6openjdk but it is installed already but lib/tools.jar isn't there
[09:17] <Jigal> what to do
[09:18] <mikebeecham> guys...how stable is Maverick at the moment?  I'm thinking of upgrading, but not sure if I should
[09:18] <abhijit> is basket no more developed?
[09:18] <trijntje> !+1 | mikebeecham
[09:19] <neil_d> Aerec: well that program doesn't seem to run on windows 7
[09:19] <abhijit> !10.10 | mikebeecham
[09:19] <trijntje> thanks abhijit
[09:19] <abhijit> trijntje, :)
[09:19] <mikebeecham> abhijit: then that answers the question :D
[09:19] <abhijit> mikebeecham, yes. :D
[09:19] <mikebeecham> just in time for my birthday though, which should be a nice surprise...I hope
[09:20] <ZERO_COOL> Lucid Lynx no HDMI output from laptop with a Radeon HD 3200M?
[09:23] <Gangrel> can someone help me with my wireless card? its levelone WNC-301 pci suddenly it vanished from the network manager
[09:24] <morphles> Gangrel: sudenly? as in after update or as in after i accidently swirch off wireles switch? :)
[09:25] <Gangrel> morphles after desktop restart
[09:25] <dr770> hello I just installed a new ethernet card and ubuntu lucid doesnt see it with network-manager
[09:26] <Gangrel> and it is as it doesn't exist
[09:26] <morphles>  weird maybe driver didnt load for some reason, i dont have any other ideas
[09:26] <Gangrel> morphles any idea?
[09:27] <Gangrel> btw how can i see my devices ? i mean what is the command for the terminal
[09:27] <Ichat> lspci
[09:27] <morphles> not realy, try reboot once more if it persists tyr asking someone else, or looking at dmesg and such
[09:27] <ibrahim-kasem> I am trying to install nokia software updater using wine but it is blocked !
[09:29] <Ichat> ibrahim-kasem:  -  id recomend,  running from inside windows (xp)  ....  you can install xp in for example  virtualbox..
[09:29] <ibrahim-kasem> Ichat, I only have ubuntu now
[09:30] <ibrahim-kasem> Ichat, you are right virtual box is much better or installing it on another windows machine but that option is not available
[09:31] <Ichat> in that case youd be better of  going to a nokia service point
[09:32] <jgblanco> hi
[09:32] <abhijit> who uses basket?
[09:32] <ibrahim-kasem> Ichat, this will cost me 14$ I'd rather updating my software online hahah thank you.
[09:33] <yessir_turan> Hi, how can i install vi 7.3 on ubuntu?
[09:33] <yessir_turan> *vim 7.3
[09:33] <Ichat> ibrahim-kasem:  in that case you could aways download a  trial version (of windows) from say   the pirate bay ;) )
[09:33] <Ichat> most (new) versions of windows support a  30day non activated trial period
[09:34] <trijntje> Ichat, please dont discuss those topics here
[09:34] <Ichat> trijntje,  its not illigal
[09:34] <Ichat> as long as you dont use, pirrated  licence keys or sutch.
[09:35] <lost_and_unfound> greetings all, what is the best way in terminal to check diskspace usage per partition ?
[09:35] <trijntje> lost_and_unfound, sudo fdisk -l
[09:36] <lost_and_unfound> trijntje: sorry, I meant disk usage
[09:36] <jatt> df
[09:37] <trijntje> Ichat, thats debatable, its not like you can go to microsoft.com to download I trial, as far as I know
[09:38] <Ichat> trijntje looking for the weblink now,  .....
[09:39] <Ichat> its there or it used to be there ... -
[09:39] <lost_and_unfound> i have gone thru multiple df / du commands... my / is full and i cannot seem to find a simple application / command in CLI to show me which directory is the space hog. The /home/ is also being processed in the du command that makes troubleshooting a bit more complex to find the culprit
[09:39] <endri> hi i use slim and xfce. how can i change the system language? i want different languages for different users... maybe some command line...
[09:41] <trijntje> Ichat, well there used to be a win7 beta/rc that was free to download
[09:42] <ikonia> guys - this isn't an ubuntu issue, can you please take it to ##windows
[09:42] <Ichat> sorry mate your right
[09:43] <trijntje> ill stop talking too ;)
[09:43] <ikonia> thanks guys
[09:44] <Hey_neken> Hi, I've bought a new Dell R610 server (2x xeon 5520 16gb) and made a 10.04 server installation. I've serious performance problems with KVM. Is there any known bug related? (i've searched on launchpad and got nothing)
[09:45] <ikonia> Hey_neken: make sure virtualisation on the cpu is enabled in the bios
[09:45] <Hey_neken> ikonia, it is
[09:45] <ikonia> Hey_neken: what sort of performance issues are you having, visual performance issues, or physical processing in the vm issues
[09:46] <Hey_neken> ikonia, processing
[09:46] <ikonia> Hey_neken: can you give me an example ?
[09:46] <Hey_neken> just to compare to the old server (a xeon 3302) i created a new vm with 1 cpu and 512 on each server and the old server with 9.04 is 6x faster
[09:46] <Hey_neken> installing ubuntu
[09:47] <ikonia> ok - forget the install routine, can you give me an example of it struggling with processing
[09:48] <Hey_neken> ikonia, made a cp of a vm from the old to the new server. a vm with a mysql server on it and the app cry at start time on the new server
[09:48] <ikonia> please explain better than "cry"
[09:48] <Hey_neken> slower
[09:48] <Hey_neken> 10times slower
[09:49] <ikonia> Hey_neken: ok - so please explain how you know that is processing
[09:49] <abhijit> who uses basket?
[09:50] <Hey_neken> ikonia, the same VM on a newer and faster machine is slower, what else can it be?
[09:50] <ikonia> Hey_neken: it can be many things,
[09:50] <ikonia> Hey_neken: hence why I'm asking how you know it's processing
[09:51] <hateball> Is there a way to tell Nautilus which iocharset to use when doing a cifs.mount? I need to specify utf-8, which works via CLI but that requires root to mount.
[09:51] <Hey_neken> ikonia, they are in the same network attached to the same switch; the same VM has been used to test the same app on the same version; on the 10.04 install I've no other "big" process running, its a fresh install with minimun gnome to user virt-manager
[09:52] <ikonia> Hey_neken: ok, so monitor the processors in the virtual machine AND on the host at the same time while you are working/having problems, see if there are any differences in behaviour, or any corolation, that can guide you as to where there are potential issues
[09:53] <Hey_neken> ikonia, ok, will
[09:53] <ikonia> Hey_neken: got to shoot off now.
[09:57] <bytesaber> any macbook users?   my /sys/class/backlight/ is empty
[09:58] <bytesaber> trying to get my brightness controlls back
[09:58] <bytesaber> i can modprobe hal_nvidia_bl but there is no device for it to connect to
[09:58] <Funhouse> i love ubuntu
[09:58] <Funhouse> windows is a thing of the past now
[09:59] <ibrahim-kasem> why there is always new versions of ubuntu in short time ?? 9.10 > 10.04 and now 10.10 ?
[09:59] <ibrahim-kasem> i mean in two months 10.10
[10:00] <wurlington> cuz ubuntu rawks
[10:01] <sacho> ibrahim-kasem: the short release cycle keeps ubuntu up-to-date with the latest software, for example. You are not really required to upgrade...ie you could just jump from LTS to LTS
[10:01] <wurlington> sacho, its cuz ubuntu rawks k
[10:01] <wurlington> :-D
[10:02] <wurlington> i didnt even know there was a 10.10 though, im still on 10.04
[10:02] <sacho> Well, there isn't, yet. 10.10 is in development and scheduled to be released in october(that's what the .10 means)
[10:03] <wurlington> what is the length of time from 10.04 to 10.10?
[10:03] <wurlington> is it the six months?
[10:03] <bobthemilkman> 6 months.
[10:04] <wurlington> cool, then all is on schedule
[10:04] <bobthemilkman> Ubuntu is released every 6 months, in April (04) and October (10), hence the X.04 and X.10
[10:04] <bobthemilkman> 10.04 was released in April 2010. Quite an interesting numbering scheme.
[10:06] <younder> When running World of Warcraft (WoW)) under wine the sund intermittently cuts out. I get it back for a while if toggle between system default/default in the sound menu. Anyone know a fix for this?
[10:06] <younder> s/sund/sound/
[10:06] <wurlington> what is this s/sund/sound/ thing? i have been seeing a lot of similar activity
[10:07] <wurlington> is there a glitch in the matrix
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> it's called regex
[10:07] <wurlington> regex
[10:08] <wurlington> ahh, gotcha
[10:08] <wurlington> thanks
[10:08] <younder> it means subsitute sound for sund. Thus correcting the spelling mistake in the statement above
[10:08] <well_laid_lawn> regex=REGular EXpression
[10:08] <alesan> hi
[10:09] <alesan> do you know of a *working* rdate server?
[10:09] <wurlington> yea, gotcha younder , well_laid_lawn , thanks
[10:09] <alesan> I cannot find one that works with rdate -s
[10:10] <younder> alesan, find a what?
[10:11] <lost_and_unfound> http://pastebin.org/567700 - having disk usage issues on '/' any suggestions how to narrow down the search or better tools to manage this better ?
[10:13] <younder> I got a boot issue as well. Get a warning on startup program?? wont load. I suspect the primary boot partion is damaged and that it is booting from the seconady (backup) boot partion. How can I get the primary boot partion reinstalled? (After correcting for any damaged sectors..)
[10:14] <jimlovell777> I was recently given a media center PC that uses a 64 bit dual core AMD CPU. The computer has less than four gigs of RAM. I've tried 6 flavors of Linux, some Ubuntu, Fedora, etc... All run in low graphics mode to install and never boot fully again. I know this is a hot button issue but am I losing a noticeable amount of performance by installing the 32bit version of Ubuntu? It seems to have better support, right?
[10:15] <younder> s/startup/startup./
[10:15] <qUaNtiC_> hi i finally found the driver for my internet key, but i need to install it manually without using any automatic software, how do i do that?
[10:16] <Guest28233> hai
[10:16] <collabra> jimlovell777: I've been running kubuntu since 10.04 and I have had no stability or support issues.
[10:16] <collabra> jimlovell777: sorry i'm running the 64 bit edition
[10:16] <Guest28233> kubuntu 10.04 is having some issues with me too
[10:16] <younder> jimlovell777, Well 32 bit is of course slower than 64 bit.. It also uses less RAm. But 4 gigs should be plenty.
[10:16] <Guest28233> its working slow in my pc
[10:17] <younder> jimlovell777, Anyhow 64 bit should be well supported by now.
[10:17] <collabra> i love kubuntu 64 bit,... never have had any problems or issues...
[10:17] <jimlovell777> collabra: Yea I've been using Ubuntu and other versions of Linux exclusively for years with no problems I couldn't solve. This one computer seems to be an exception to the norm.
[10:18] <younder> jimlovell777, If you do find a program compiled for 32 bit get the source and recompile it. ./configure should usually do all the configuring automatically.
[10:18] <collabra> this system, for me, has been the most stable system i've used,....
[10:18] <jimlovell777> collabra: I might give kubuntu a try, it did just occur to me I've been trying mostly gnome based distrobutions.
[10:18] <billy_> Network:   Card-1 RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g driver rt61pci v: 2.3.0
[10:18] <billy_>            Card-2 Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI at port d000
[10:19] <younder> jimlovell777, so you cot the usual: :./configure && make && make install
[10:19] <collabra> even windows couldn't be as stable as this machine
[10:19] <collabra> never have i had any sort of freeze or hang or problem
[10:19] <younder> collabra, even windows.. :)
[10:20] <collabra> the worst i've had happen is my mouse freeze for 10 to 20 seconds,... but it has always recovered,... from everything i've put it through
[10:20] <collabra> windows could NEVER run the heavy data intense apps i've used
[10:21] <dabukalam> if a package "predepends" another package, what does that mean?
[10:21] <younder> collabra, Oh you have the hardware misconfigured. The hand is caused by two devices using the same interrupt.
[10:21] <collabra> guaranteed windows would slow down or even hang at some point,... if windows was put through the things i've put kubuntu through
[10:21] <VP1> how to format a usb disk in Ubuntu 9.04
[10:21] <tarelerulz> Any of you every have movie you download not work after while? They are all rar so that have something to do with it. also on ntfs . anyone
[10:22] <collabra> younder,... you haven't followed what i've said,... I've no problems or issues.
[10:22] <joschi> VP1: choose the filesystem and run `sudo mkfs.$FS /dev/$partition-on-your-usb-drive`. e. g. `sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd1`
[10:23] <VP1> joschi: thnx, but there should also be a GUI tool, isn't it?
[10:23] <brijithmac> hi all, I cannot kill a process. please help
[10:24] <SirGrant> try kill -9
[10:24] <joschi> VP1: there probably is, but I'm not a gui kind of guy ;)
[10:24] <younder> VP1, well there is no usch thing as a usb disk. Merly a disk connected to usb which will be automounted.
[10:25] <younder> VP1, man mkfs.ext4
[10:26] <younder> brijithmac, 'ps  aux | grep <program name>' and then kill -p PID
[10:27] <younder> brijithmac, where PID is the 4 digit punber returen by the 'ps..' command
[10:27] <Lupin`> Hiya, does anyone know a good way of reducing image sizes in Ubuntu? I've got quite a fed large images that I'd like to take down to, say, VGA resolution - but I'm not sure of the best way to do it
[10:27] <younder> Lupin, use the gimp
[10:28] <llutz> Lupin`: convert (from package imagemagick)
[10:28] <Lupin`> llutz: is that particularly difficult to do?
[10:28] <younder> llutz, yes, that's a good command line option.
[10:28] <llutz> Lupin`: no
[10:29] <sharkzz> anyone can help..
[10:29] <llutz> Lupin`: convert -resize 640x480 pic.jpg smal_pic.jpg
[10:29] <sharkzz> i have problm with dpkg-reconfigure gdm...
[10:29] <brijithmac> younder:please see  http://pastebin.com/fxA85xiQ
[10:29] <younder> Lupin`, you will have to decide if you want a crop (Cut out a bit) or shrink.
[10:29] <sharkzz> can tell me how to view?
[10:29] <dr0id> how can I have IE7 or IE8 on ubuntu ?
[10:30] <llutz> Lupin`: if you want batch-resizing, use  a for-loop
[10:30] <Lupin`> younder: shrinking would be fine, I think
[10:30] <Lupin`> llutz: is there any way to do it for all the images in a folder?
[10:30] <collabra> younder: oh,.. you meant the temporary stall with my mouse,,,?   It happens maybey once a week for ten seconds,... And always while my cpu's are pegged at 100 percent,... but if you want a testimony,... my cpu's are often pegged a 100percent and i still have full control of my machine.  :)
[10:30] <younder> brijithmac, root      1656  0.7  3.4  83104 69696 ?        Sl   10:05   2:01 ruby script/server -e production
[10:30] <Lekensteyn> Hello
[10:31] <younder> brijithmac, kill -9 1656
[10:31] <brijithmac> younder: -9 ?
[10:31] <younder> brijithmac, that third entry in the table is the program ID (PID)
[10:31] <llutz> Lupin`: for pic in *.jpg; do convert -resize 640x480 "$pic" _$pic;done
[10:32] <brijithmac> younder: so kill -9 83104
[10:32] <brijithmac> younder: will do it for me, rt ?
[10:32] <Lupin`> llutz: so how do I actually enter the command, then?
[10:33] <stelt> Will 'windows7 multi-touch screens" work in Maverick Meerkat ?
[10:33] <brijithmac> younder: sudo kill -9 1656 worked for me..
[10:33] <younder> brijithmac, right after the owner PID is the second entry
[10:34] <younder> brijithmac, try a ps and see the top line
[10:34] <llutz> Lupin`: ? that was the command to resize all jpg in a folder.
[10:34] <TendencyDriven> Hello, for some reason my Ubuntu live CD won't detect any HDD's.
[10:34] <brijithmac> younder: Ok  thank :)
[10:34] <younder> brijithmac, erm ps aux
[10:34] <Lekensteyn> TendencyDriven, are you sure? What does sudo fdisk -l give?
[10:35] <younder> (from a BSD background with that sonos 3 etc from my youth)
[10:35] <TendencyDriven> Lekensteyn, it's blank.
[10:35] <younder> sunos
[10:35] <llutz> brijithmac: read about pgrep/pkill
[10:35] <TendencyDriven> And lshw picks up no HDD's either.
[10:35] <Lekensteyn> run "sudo dmesg", it might have more information. Use pastebin
[10:36] <dabukalam> if a package "predepends" another package, what does that mean?
[10:36] <dr0id> how can I have IE7 or IE8 on ubuntu ?
[10:36] <wurlington> prolly you have to install it before dabukalam
[10:36] <wurlington> like a dependency
[10:36] <dabukalam> wurlington: but it's already been installed...
[10:36] <Lekensteyn> dr0id, you can't, unless you use an emulator like Wine
[10:37] <dr0id> :(
[10:37] <Lekensteyn> A better solution would be VirtualBox
[10:37] <Lekensteyn> assuming you're testing websites
[10:37] <dr0id> I have Virtual Box but that makes my box slow
[10:37] <wurlington> i duno dabukalam
[10:37] <dr0id> yeah, I just need to test websites...
[10:37] <dabukalam> dr0id: you a web developer?
[10:37] <dr0id> yes
[10:37] <Lekensteyn> How many RAM do you have?
[10:37] <dr0id> 2gb
[10:37] <dr0id> quad core
[10:37] <Lekensteyn> that shjould be enough
[10:37] <dabukalam> dr0id: *sigh of relief*
[10:37] <Lekensteyn> I'm running a bare bones WiNXP 90MB :p
[10:38] <dr0id> Lekensteyn: hey
[10:38] <dr0id> the first week of virtual box ose use was fantastic
[10:38] <dr0id> but gradually it started making my system slow
[10:38] <pure_hate> dr0id, I use the ie tab in chrome for we site testing
[10:38] <dr0id> and now whenever I switch on virtualbox, it pretty hangs my box
[10:38] <pure_hate> s/we/web
[10:38] <dr0id> ie tab in chrome ?
[10:38] <Lekensteyn> A friend of my was having troubles with multiple cores too
[10:39] <pure_hate> dr0id, Its a add on /extension
[10:39] <TendencyDriven> Lekensteyn, http://pastebin.com/ii5JzcqD
[10:39] <dr0id> pure_hate: that renders websites as in IE ?
[10:39] <Lekensteyn> dr0id, try installing Guest additions
[10:39] <dr0id> Lekensteyn: have those already
[10:39] <pure_hate> dr0id, yes
[10:39] <dr0id> pure_hate: fantastic :)
[10:39] <dr0id> just tell me where can I get it ?
[10:39] <dr0id> dabukalam: what happened? sigh of relief ?
[10:40] <pure_hate> dr0id, https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/hehijbfgiekmjfkfjpbkbammjbdenadd
[10:40] <Lekensteyn> What about this: http://browsershots.org/
[10:40] <TendencyDriven> Epic link.
[10:40] <dr0id> Lekensteyn: sucks :P
[10:40] <Lekensteyn> Ok :p
[10:40] <dr0id> also I need to continuously change code and see the result
[10:40] <dr0id> so that won't work
[10:40] <dr0id> infact browserlabs from adobe is DAMN better than browsershots
[10:40] <dr0id> also this one is good -> http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/
[10:41] <dr0id> but as I said you, I need to do it realtime...so change the code, refresh and see the results heh :)
[10:41] <dr0id> dabukalam: hello ?
[10:41] <dr0id> what did you mean ?
[10:42] <Lekensteyn> TendencyDriven, I can't see any HDD being detected :/
[10:42] <younder> someone ought to write a python script that displayed a bomb in the system bar. you click the bomb , the cursor turns into a bomb. You move it over the frozen window. Click again. A boom sound comes. The window ge't killed.
[10:42] <TendencyDriven> Lekensteyn, any suggestions of what I should do?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu (newest) to my 80GB HDD (just installed) but I have a 500gb in there as well...
[10:43] <Lekensteyn> A fresh HDD from the shop?
[10:43] <qUaNtiC_> so can anyone help me installing this internet key? i found the driver but i need to install it manually and i dunno how to do that, can someone help? thanks
[10:43] <younder> Lekensteyn, 50-100$ nop
[10:44] <TendencyDriven> Lekensteyn, not straight from the shop but it's been used before and I tested it.
[10:44] <Lekensteyn> Okay, is the HDD visible in other OS's on the machine?
[10:45] <TendencyDriven> Lekensteyn, In W7 both are visible.
[10:46] <dr0id> DAMN