[00:00] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Yeah r=removed , c= config files remain . My tight install for your reference: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450013/ .
[00:00] <sebsebseb> django_: yes Grub will use WIndows EFI directory,  once that's done, things should work ok,  and that's also when both are installed n UEFI mode both OSes, which Ubuntu will be when you do what I said
[00:00] <ILI> just download ubuntu from here http://www.ubuntu.com/download install it on a usb put the usb in your pc start up from usb install ubuntu DONE
[00:00] <django_> sebsebseb: why can't I do this outside having to reinstall
[00:00] <sebsebseb> django_: then boot options should be able to load up Grub, and also  the computer itself should be able to load up Grub if not by default, after you have changed an optoin to bring up Grub first in the UEFI bios
[00:01] <sebsebseb> django_: since Ubuntu is probably installed in the wrong mode the legacy mode and such
[00:01] <sebsebseb> django_: and probably also hasn't been told to use Windows EFI directory, so tooo late now basicaly
[00:01] <luckybunny> got a temporary fix
[00:01] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JOOdBjlG/1463356897.JPG
[00:01] <luckybunny> by starting in upstart instead of systemd
[00:01] <django_> Ok I'm in this step sebsebseb
[00:02] <sebsebseb> django_: once Ubuntu is installed in the legacy mode, no it can't just be changed to the UEFI mode
[00:02] <luckybunny> fixed both the startup issue and the sound issue
[00:02] <ILI> first one
[00:02] <sebsebseb> django_: same with Window
[00:02] <sebsebseb> django_: have you taken off your data off the Ubuntu partition?
[00:02] <django_> sebsebseb: what?
[00:02] <django_> Yes I got data
[00:02] <sebsebseb> django_: have you backed up your data?
[00:03] <sebsebseb> django_: right well partitining leave Windows aloen don't tick to format that etc
[00:03] <ILI> just reinstall ubuntu
[00:03] <sebsebseb> django_: espeically if you haven't backed up
[00:03] <sebsebseb> ILI: yep exactly just re install Ubuntu, but with the UEFI option there
[00:03] <django_> sebsebseb: what do I do from this step
[00:04] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Package manager still say there is shortage of space ?
[00:04] <sebsebseb> django_: the partiner in the insatller is a bit too basic or can be,  normaly I like using gparted first and then finnishig off installer
[00:04] <sebsebseb> django_: but whatever works
[00:04] <sebsebseb> your ging to delete the Ubuntu partition
[00:04] <sebsebseb> and then make a new partiiton there in that space where you will re install Ubuntu
[00:04] <ILI> restart pc press DEL go to boot menu option one usb restart pc with usb filesystem on it install done
[00:05] <django_> sebsebseb: what? Do I just hit install now with the /dev/sda8 selected?
[00:05] <ILI> or just virtual box XDXDXDXD
[00:05] <sebsebseb> ILI: yeah when it's  using the windows efi directory sure that should work
[00:05] <Kallis> can anyone help me authenticate to my samba server via ldap on a windows server please ?
[00:05] <gtrt05> anybody know how i could make ubuntu 14.04 support my graphics car?
[00:05] <gtrt05> card*
[00:06] <sebsebseb> django_: ok disclaimer if you delete WIndows not my fault :)  but as long as you don't tick that for formatting that should stay no problem :)
[00:06] <ILI> just create new partition
[00:06] <ILI> or anoher Hard drive
[00:06] <sebsebseb> django_: if you didn't back up WIndows data again not my fault
[00:06] <django_> sebsebseb: man sorry but you aren't explaining
[00:06] <django_> I know how to install Ubuntu but I want to do the EFi thing you said
[00:06] <django_> How do I do the
[00:06] <django_> That
[00:06] <sebsebseb> django_: that's a later step
[00:06] <sebsebseb> django_: you got to do the partition first
[00:06] <django_> So just instal?
[00:07] <django_> I already have the partition
[00:07] <ILI> but why you want ubuntu?
[00:07] <sebsebseb> django_: delete the old Ubuntu partiiton, put a new partiton,  and install yes
[00:07] <django_> How do I delete
[00:07] <sebsebseb> django_: then when it gets to the what to do with Grub screen, that's when you do something
[00:07] <Bashing-om> !uefi | django_ Remeber ? Or have you read ?
[00:07] <sebsebseb> django_: the insatller sucks for pariting really go back to that lter
[00:07] <sebsebseb> django_: use gparted the partion editor first I guess
[00:08] <django_> Oh
[00:08] <django_> Ok
[00:08] <ILI> its hard to get it to work :P :D
[00:08] <minimec> django_: sebsebseb: Wouldn't a 'repair installation' be enough? It should bring you/him to the 'grub installation menu' of the installer in the end. You/he could then show us the options he gets.
[00:08] <ILI> just call me L
[00:08] <sebsebseb> django_: delete the old UBuntu from  gparted, and then make a new partion there in ext4,  tell
[00:08] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: here is my layout, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450079/ and yes apt complains with http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450095/
[00:08] <sebsebseb> minimec: he tried but didn't seem to work
[00:08] <slothbag> anyone know how to get lightdm vnc working?  I can connect and login but the desktop never loads.. xsession-errors says something about "BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)  Major opcode of failed request:  109 (X_ChangeHosts)"
[00:09] <sebsebseb> minimec: he's backed up the data from Ubuntu now anyway so re instaolling makes snese
[00:09] <sebsebseb> minimec: can put in uefi mode then too
[00:09] <minimec> sebsebseb: Ok.
[00:09] <sebsebseb> minimec: I think teh current Ubuntu is installed in legacy mode
[00:09] <sebsebseb> hence issues
[00:09] <sebsebseb> or something like that
[00:09] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: reading .. be back soonest .
[00:10] <sebsebseb> django_: in gparted make a new partiotn fo rUbuntu,  set it as the / even, back to installer
[00:10] <sebsebseb> install Ubuntu
[00:10] <OerHeks> he had it installed in UEFI mode, and working, then he wanted to go back to legacy, and now again ..
[00:10] <sebsebseb> when it gets to the grub screen
[00:10] <sebsebseb> OerHeks: yeah I think he did something in the bios that messed it up before
[00:10] <django_> sebsebseb: so Ubuntu is in /dev/sda8 I just right click and delete that right
[00:10] <sebsebseb> OerHeks: just trying to get it in UEFI mode now, liike WIndows
[00:11] <sebsebseb> django_: once you got things in UEFI mode, don't play around with CMS or whatever options, leave all the UEFI bios stuff alone basically once you got installed and working ok
[00:11] <django_> Lol yeah
[00:11] <sebsebseb> django_: show me a screenshot ?
[00:12] <sebsebseb> django_: also before you re install, let's check this,  the UEFI bios itself is back to it's default settings yes?
[00:13] <sebsebseb> django_: you did that?  or did that except for maybe disaling secure boot?
[00:13] <{L}> love this
[00:13] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: Looks like I need to manually remove header-files, not just kernels
[00:13] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SGgATlkE/1463357634.JPG
[00:14] <django_> Ok now how do I set up for Ubuntu
[00:14] <Sabel> hey seb, could you tell me how to copy the files into the folder it wouldnt let me earlier?
[00:14] <sebsebseb> django_: ok looks like Ubuntu is gone there in gparted, but why have you got six NTFS partiitons?
[00:15] <django_> Idk
[00:15] <sebsebseb> Sabel: uhmm you need to become root using sudo then you can do things in the terminal
[00:15] <django_> It was like that originally
[00:15] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: IF you removed the images, then yes remove the headers also . ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' might still work in this instance .
[00:15] <sebsebseb> django_: ok there's I guess a recor partion for WIndows, windows itsellf, and maybe a D
[00:15] <sebsebseb> django_: in your Ubuntu space was that already un partitioned too ?
[00:15] <django_> I deleted it
[00:15] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: autoremove also fails with disk full
[00:16] <django_> Now it says I allocated
[00:16] <django_> Unallocated
[00:16] <sebsebseb> django_: yes make a new partion there
[00:16] <django_> Which options
[00:16] <sebsebseb> django_: then I guess right click,  say you want it as a Ext4 and as / even
[00:16] <sebsebseb> django_: you could even set up a seprate /home whilst at if you want :d
[00:16] <sebsebseb> thos can be useful sometimes
[00:17] <django_> Where do I do the /
[00:17] <sebsebseb> django_: right click and go into the options
[00:17] <sebsebseb> django_: may have to click advance somd where , but I don't think so
[00:17] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Z0GK2fcz/1463357855.JPG
[00:17] <sebsebseb> django_: file system Ext4
[00:17] <sebsebseb> django_: other thing  is / or root
[00:17] <sebsebseb> partiton type
[00:18] <sebsebseb> django_: you typed in ubuntu as the partiton name?
[00:18] <django_> Where do I do /
[00:18] <django_> The I typed it
[00:18] <django_> Yes
[00:18] <django_> Yes I typed it
[00:18] <sebsebseb> django_: no that's where it should say / really I think
[00:19] <sebsebseb> django_: the insatller can sort that out later anway
[00:19] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: K, then 'uname -r' so you know what kernel not to mess with .. and depending on kernels installed, simething along these lines to batch remove the headers ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.13.0-{36,37,39,40,41,43,44} ' . Then we look and see what else is to be removed .
[00:19] <sebsebseb> django_: partiton type /
[00:19] <django_> I have better idea
[00:19] <django_> Leave unallocated and do the option in installer
[00:19] <django_> The usual way
[00:20] <sebsebseb> django_: actasull this is what to do
[00:20] <sebsebseb> django_: make a new paritoin in gparted
[00:20] <sebsebseb> django_: or  maybe have unalloacted
[00:20] <sebsebseb> and  use installer sure
[00:20] <sebsebseb> after that
[00:20] <django_> :)
[00:20] <sebsebseb> make sure the installer uses it as Ext4 and / yep
[00:21] <sebsebseb> django_: then install and then when your on the what to do with the boot loader Grub screen, you need to do the important bit!
[00:21] <django_> !!
[00:21] <sebsebseb> why you put !!
[00:22] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: I also expect there are the " linux-headers-3.13.0-83-generic " versions to also deal with .
[00:23] <sebsebseb> django_: now what you doing?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> django_: I'll just finish helping you or trying to and then....
[00:24] <django_> Grrr
[00:24] <django_> I need to make new partition lol
[00:24] <sebsebseb> django_: well yes you got unalloacted space
[00:25] <sebsebseb> django_: so you need to make a new partion for UBuntu in it
[00:25] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Ya got it fingered out ?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> that's a / and with Ext4
[00:25] <django_> So I'll just make smaller one
[00:25] <sebsebseb> django_: why smaller?
[00:25] <guesst>  anyone know weach channel can help me with script installing in host?
[00:25] <django_> Maybe I'll try other Linux distributions
[00:25] <theShirbiny> guesst, script installing?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> django_: uhmm
[00:25] <guesst> yes
[00:25] <sebsebseb> django_: yeah I like other distros :D
[00:26] <guesst> like nulled script
[00:26] <guesst> im getin crazy
[00:26] <sebsebseb> django_ you could set up a seperate /home and also enough sapce for other distros :d
[00:26] <sebsebseb> django_: /home is like my documents in Windows
[00:26] <sebsebseb> so can be useful having seprate
[00:26] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: No :( here is new error http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450243/
[00:26] <sebsebseb> all distros can use your sepeate /home
[00:26] <theShirbiny> guesst, what do want it this script to do exactly?
[00:26] <django_> Lol game of thrones in 30 min
[00:26] <django_> Do you watch it sebsebseb
[00:27] <sebsebseb> django_: seen the first series about there years ago,  got a way to catch up legaly on it all now, that should work for me :d
[00:27] <guesst> theShirbiny its dating script but complicated
[00:27] <sebsebseb> django_: I want to catch up on DC's  Legends of Tommorow tnoight
[00:27] <sebsebseb> django_: it's already past mid nigt here :D
[00:28] <django_> Oh where you at
[00:28] <sebsebseb> England
[00:28] <django_> You usually on irc with this nick?
[00:28] <django_> Nice
[00:28] <django_> I wanna visit that place
[00:28] <sebsebseb> I had intended to stay up like all night though
[00:28] <sebsebseb> nice and ark no refeldctiosn on TV etc
[00:28] <sebsebseb> quite
[00:28] <sebsebseb> yep
[00:28] <theShirbiny> guesst, still don't know what you're talking about, maybe someone else can help you
[00:29] <guesst> theShirbiny tryingto learn step by step hot to install the script
[00:29] <sebsebseb> django_: behind on the toher show,  Arrow and the Flash  up to date on well for the TV channel here, but behind on....  oh I'll just be in the ubuntu channel about half an hour agian, and now it's been like two hours h eh your fault :d, and where you from
[00:30] <guesst> theShirbiny tryingto learn step by step how to install the script*
[00:30] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: Not sure how I ended up readonly. I didn't mess with currently running kernel nor headers
[00:30] <theShirbiny> guesst, you want to learn bash scripting?
[00:30] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Look'm at the latest .
[00:30] <sebsebseb> django_: I am around here sometimes more recently,  I am not really that keen on Ubuntu on the desktop compter or lap top anymore, other distors :d, but Ubuntu phones and tablets are nice and interesting :d
[00:30] <sebsebseb> I used to help out here a lot
[00:31] <sebsebseb> django_: is it installing yet?
[00:31] <django_> Still doing partition ::
[00:32] <EldonMcGuinness> I wish I could get ubuntu, or really any linux distro to work well on my notebook, but it has the damn GMA3600 chipset that supports nothing other than Windows 7. :/
[00:33] <sebsebseb> EldonMcGuinness: chipset for what?
[00:33] <EldonMcGuinness> sebsebseb: graphics
[00:33] <sebsebseb> oh
[00:33] <EldonMcGuinness> I mean I can get it on there, but then the desktop is too sluggish to really use and forget about watching videos.
[00:33] <sebsebseb> and which make is that?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Ouch .. let's see ehat is . pastebin ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ; ls -al /boot ; dpkg -l | grep linux- '.
[00:33] <EldonMcGuinness> intel
[00:34] <sebsebseb> Intel really
[00:34] <sebsebseb> Intel has mostly good grahics support now
[00:34] <sebsebseb> for LInux
[00:35] <EldonMcGuinness> yea, this is one that is not.  I can't even update the laptop to windows 10 due to the driver not supporting t.
[00:35] <sebsebseb> oh
[00:36] <sebsebseb> django_: ok now progress?
[00:36] <django_> Just completed
[00:36] <django_> The partition
[00:36] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: okay will do. Here is last 100 of syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450531/
[00:36] <sebsebseb> django_: and told it to be ext4 and the / ?
[00:36] <django_> Yes
[00:36] <sebsebseb> django_: ok install
[00:37] <sebsebseb> django_: make sure it doens't ofrmat WIndows :D
[00:37] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: FYI the entire file system is RO
[00:38] <roadrunneratwast> hey. i just installed Xubuntu 16.04 on a VMWare virtual machine within Windows 7.  I get the error:  The virtual machine cannot enter Unity mode because:
[00:38] <roadrunneratwast> - Unity is not supported on the guest operating system.
[00:39] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: which vmware version?
[00:39] <roadrunneratwast> I see there are instructions here about what drivers to install, but I am using xfce, not gnome.  So I am not sure ..
[00:39] <sebsebseb> server? player what?
[00:39] <roadrunneratwast> server 11
[00:39] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: that's a odd issue
[00:39] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: Unity 7 isn't paritculary fancy except fo rusing compiz for a few things, which might be it
[00:39] <roadrunneratwast> 11.0.0 build-2305329
[00:40] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: may need to install a driver isnide the vm I guess,  oh and I would use Virtualbox now personally even on Windows :D
[00:40] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: Here's output of ls and other http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450612/
[00:40] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Yikes ! What is on vda1 ? the operating system ? .. I "assume" we are working with a Virtual Machine ?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: oh lost you there?
[00:40] <roadrunneratwast> there are instructions here for gnome desktop.  not sure if this will work for xfce too.  worth a try though? http://askubuntu.com/questions/227712/vmware-unity-mode-with-ubuntu-12-10
[00:40] <roadrunneratwast> yeah.  i am back
[00:40] <dbz2k> roadrunneratwast, so you have a vm in a vm?
[00:41] <roadrunneratwast> my host system is windows 7.  i just installed xubuntu 16
[00:41] <sebsebseb> roadrunneratwast: well I was saying,  may ned to install a drirver in it, Unity 7 isn't particuarly fancy except for running Compiz, and that I would personally use Virtualbox now on Windows :D
[00:41] <roadrunneratwast> as a virutal machine
[00:41] <volkswagner> Bashing-om:  yes KVM guest=Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS host is Debian
[00:41] <sebsebseb> Virtaublox ona nything
[00:41] <sebsebseb> django_: installing?
[00:42] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/X0sMF0jg/1463359327.JPG
[00:42] <django_> sebsebseb:
[00:42] <sebsebseb> django_: yeah another few minutes I guess, then untill the  remove some drivers screen, and then the what to do with Grub screen
[00:43] <sebsebseb> django_: Ih aven't actsaully seen the 16.04 installer images yet :d
[00:44] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: / is on /dev/vda1 and which is entire filesystem except /srv
[00:44] <volkswagner> should I just try to force remount
[00:47] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: I see nothing really amiss that getting the -86 kernel installed would not fix - a just a bit of cleanup - . Can you think of any reason that the system went read-only to protect it's self ? We can -situation permitting- (  EXT4-fs warning (device vda1):)) - remount r/w .
[00:49] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: IDK why it went RO, would demsg or syslog have any clue?
[00:49] <volkswagner> let me look
[00:50] <volkswagner> if it went RO, perhaps logs couldn't get writtne
[00:51] <sebsebseb> django_: progress?
[00:51] <django_> Still
[00:51] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: Yeah ! no logs able to be written ! .. Debating with self what to do, oh what to do . Gonna go smoke on it .
[00:51] <sebsebseb> django_: when you get to teh grub screen at the bottom it should ask wehre to install Grub
[00:52] <sebsebseb> django_: and you then put the windows opton I think it will say something like /windows/efi
[00:52] <volkswagner> smoke'm if you got'em
[00:52] <django_> Ok
[00:52] <sebsebseb> django_: and then things should work better after taht
[00:52] <sebsebseb> django_: Grub should be able to come up from the boot menu at least, but to get Grub to come up first may have to find a optoin for it in the UEFI bios still thoguh
[00:54] <coffeeguy> hi how do i install the latest java in ubuntu?
[00:55] <django_> Ok
[00:55] <django_> Ty sebsebseb
[00:56] <Abe_> hi
[00:59] <coffeeguy> sudo apt-get install openjdk-9-jre <-- i found it :D thanks anyway
[00:59] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: The start of the problem " 0 to remove and 107 not upgraded." No doubt at this point with the errors reported for vda1 need to run a fsck . But I have no idea how to do so for a VM . _ the file system and swap must be unmounted !
[01:00] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: looks like I have filesystem trouble, perhaps that's why I was getting disk full when on surface it seemed I should have plenty http://paste.ubuntu.com/16450776/
[01:00] <volkswagner> can I do fsck using live boot media?
[01:02] <volkswagner> Bashing-om: Looks like I'm gonna have to boot a live cd on the VM since the disk image is qcow2
[01:04] <Bashing-om> volkswagner: I wish I could give confident advise . we know that we have to dig deeper .. ' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/vda1 ' ?? as the next stab at it ?
[01:07] <django_> sebsebseb:
[01:07] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PJe40pxr/1463360858.JPG
[01:23] <OerHeks>
[01:39] <jgornick> Hey folks, I just installed the minimal version of Ubuntu 16.04 and used LVM to partition my disks. When I boot I get a couple of error messages saying "lvmetad is not active yet, using direct activation during sysinit" and then no login prompt. Is there a way to fix the issue?
[01:42] <OerHeks> jgornick, i find this recent post (6days) with solved > http://askubuntu.com/questions/769863/lvmetad-is-not-active-yet-using-direct-activation-during-sysinit-solved i hope it applies to you too
[01:45] <jgornick> OerHeks: Saw that too, but I'm not working with a graphical environment.
[01:49] <QTC`> hi, I've hit a roadblock trying to setup GPU Passthrough. According to `lspci -nnk` the target GPU is claimed by radeon, is there a way to change the order the kernel loads its drivers/modules?
[01:49] <OerHeks> jgornick, then i have no clue :-(
[01:50] <QTC`> Specs: Motherboard: P9DWS, CPU i7 4790k, Main GPU: R9 270x, Passthrough GPU: HD 7770
[01:52] <QTC`> blacklisting Radeon is not a option since I'm using a different card for system graphics
[02:00] <threethirty> howdy all, is there a setting or plugin for unity where I can make the entire screen greyscale like it is when something is lagging
[02:01] <xangua> threethirty: no
[02:15] <n-iCe> how can I make my cpus to run at full speed
[02:40] <Lehthanis> evening all!
[02:41] <k00l3th4n> Would anyone know how to get isight.fw for a Macbook 2,1 running Ubuntu 16.04?
[02:41] <Lehthanis> trying to install postfix for smtp outgoing only on my server...and I'm followign this tutorial: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-as-a-send-only-smtp-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[02:42] <Lehthanis> only when I do the install for mailutils which does include postfix...I don't get the screen where I choose internet site and such
[02:42] <Lehthanis> and then after that I have no main.cf
[02:42] <QTC`> k00l3th4n, I had it running in the past, I'll check if I still have notes on how i did it
[02:42] <ubuntu883> How does one update an existing repo? I have a DVD rip of 14.04 and want to take out many packages that i don't need and then re-index it?
[02:43] <ubuntu883> And would want to update it in-place
[02:43] <Lehthanis> is there a way to manually fire off the postfix configuration screen?
[02:45] <dax> Lehthanis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[02:45] <k00l3th4n> QTC`: Would very much appreciate it. I've looked everywhere for it but no luck.
[02:46] <QTC`> k00l3th4n, i still have the firmware file, I'm currently checking if i have the notes on how i got it
[02:48] <k00l3th4n> I know how to install it. I just need the fw file. Could you send it to me?
[02:49] <k00l3th4n> QTC`: I just need the file. Could you send it to me?
[02:50] <QTC`> k00l3th4n, it looks like you "need" a installed copy of mac os x to get the firmware
[02:50] <QTC`> I can upload if you trust it
[02:52] <Lehthanis> dax: thanks!
[03:01] <Lehthanis> anyone know much abotu postfix?
[03:01] <Lehthanis> I can't seem to get it running, and I'm almost certain it's my hosts file
[03:01] <Ben64> you'll get better results ask your real question, and provide all details
[03:02] <Lehthanis> I'm trying to set it up for outgoing mail only from the server...
[03:02] <Lehthanis> when I restarted the service I got this:
[03:02] <Lehthanis> postmulti: fatal: unknown inet_protocols value "loopback-only" in "loopback-only"
[03:04] <Ben64> Lehthanis: well that error kind of says the problem
[03:04] <Lehthanis> the tutorial says to set it to that
[03:05] <Lehthanis> or localhost...which also gives me that same error only withlocalhost instead of loopback-only
[03:05] <Ben64> pastebin the config
[03:05] <Lehthanis> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-as-a-send-only-smtp-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[03:06] <Ben64> in the error you posted you show "inet_protocols" while that page you linked says "inet_interfaces"
[03:07] <Lehthanis> well there you go then!
[03:08] <Lehthanis> I guess I edited the wrong value, lol...I don't remember what inet_protocols was...
[03:10] <Lehthanis> thanks for the extra set of eyes Ben64
[03:11] <Ben64> sure
[03:11] <Ben64> error messages don't lie often :)
[03:13] <Lehthanis> nope...but it's late and my eyes refused to read the error message as it presented itself...and with that I'm off to bed, thanks again!
[03:16] <QTC`> rebooting brb
[03:17] <amr_> please if anyone can help in inverted microphone problem with lenovo b50-70 laptop ?
[03:17] <amr_> no sound using internal mic on laptop lenovo b50-70
[03:18] <amr_> after searching for a while i found that this laptop has mic with 2 channels one of them has reversed polarity (phase inversion
[03:18] <amr_> can anyone help me regarding this issue
[03:19] <amr_> ?
[03:19] <amr_> helooo there
[03:19] <amr_> ?
[03:19] <Ben64> !patience | amr_
[03:20] <juanonymous> anybody uses skype here?
[03:20] <juanonymous> i got a problem from skype ip resolvers
[03:20] <Ben64> you should find a better program to use
[03:20] <juanonymous> is there any way to cover my skype ip using proxy
[03:21] <Arcaire> juanonymous: you don't need to do that anymore
[03:21] <Arcaire> they use nodes now, your ip won't be showing up on a resolver
 this problem affects mic input and i really cannot solve this
[03:22] <juanonymous> well it is
[03:22] <juanonymous> i am checking it
[03:22] <Ben64> amr_: yep i get it
[03:23] <juanonymous> <IP_ADDRESS>:1964
[03:23] <juanonymous> Philippines
[03:23] <amr_> i have installed latest mainstream kernel 4.6 with latest ubuntu 16.04 and still have no mic input
[03:25] <amr_> and i don't know if i have to compile kernel  or how may i apply kernel patch to fix this
[03:26] <amr_> in some launchpad channels i see problem fixed but i don't know why all this time since ubuntu 14.04 and all laptops with inverted internal mics have that issue
[03:28] <luis_> holaa
[03:28] <SomeJuan> Lately, I've been getting error messages in KDE in a pop-up message with title "Error - Konsole" that reads: "A ZModem file transfer attempt has been detected, but no suitable ZModem software was found on this system. You may wish to install the 'rzsz' or 'lrzsz' package." Any idea what could be trying to initiate this transfer?
[03:30] <squirel> hai
[03:31] <squirel> anyone here use xfce?
[03:31] <QTC`> I'll try again, is there a way to change in which order kernel drivers/modules are loaded? I need to load the VFIO before Radeon.
[03:32] <squirel> any xfce users here?
[03:33] <amr_> no sound using internal mic on laptop lenovo b50-70
[03:34] <amr_> ?
[03:34] <amr_> how to fix inverted internal mic patch
[03:34] <amr_> ?
[03:35] <squirel> Linux prevails where macs fail :D
[03:35] <zkanda> Hello everyone, I installed kernel 4.6 in my laptop but now docker doesn't work because of missing aufs driver. Anyone how/where can I get/compile linux-image-extra for this kernel? Thank you in advance.
[03:36] <squirel> how do you switch tabs in irssi?
[03:39] <ubuntu677> anybody? How would I update a mirrored local repo? I want to remove and/or update some packages and need to re-index is after
[03:41] <squirel> hi
[03:42] <squirel> How come this place is so quiet when there's 1864 people here?
[03:43] <somsip> squirel: it's a support channel, not a chat channel
[03:43] <ubuntu677> really. i was hoping there was a repo expert here
[03:43] <somsip> squirel: alt + tab number
[03:43] <ubuntu677> cricket
[03:43] <ubuntu677> s
[03:43] <squirel> thanks :)
[03:43] <squirel> offical support channel?
[03:43] <somsip> ubuntu677: maybe try #ubuntu-mirrors though not sure if they do local mirrors there
[03:43] <somsip> squirel: yes
[03:43] <r4hul> ubuntu677: use rsync to update to update local repo
[03:44] <squirel> Anyone here an actual ubuntu-dev?
[03:44] <ubuntu677> sorry rsync won't work for me
[03:44] <amr_>  if you please can help me with problem with my laptop internal mic lenovo b50-70
[03:45] <somsip> !pm | amr_
[03:45] <wbill> if im on ubuntu mate can i ask ?'s here???
[03:45] <somsip> wbill: yes
[03:46] <wbill> #ZRW
[03:49] <wbill> im trying to install X11 libraries on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS anybody hav a clue as to how im coming it saying the no packages or the .deb file is blowing up on me
[03:50] <somsip> wbill: which packages?
[03:50] <thebluesquirel> Is there any ubuntu chat channels?
[03:50] <wbill> im on a pi 3 BTW
[03:50] <somsip> !ot | thebluesquirel
[03:50] <wbill> X11
[03:51] <wbill> im actually trying to instal fltk and it bombs saying i dont have the proper X11 libs
[03:51] <somsip> wbill: you're running 'apt-get install X11' ?
[03:51] <somsip> wbill: paste the error message. Use a pastebing
[03:51] <somsip> !paste | wbill
[03:52] <thebluesquirel> is there any other ways to switch tabs in irsii other than alt #?
[03:52] <isidora> asd
[03:55] <wbill> http://pastebin.com/8v8PHifv
[03:55] <Geo> Hi, trying to compile a 32bit binary with gcc (-m32), but I get "fatal error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory". Compiling w/o -m32 works fine. What package am I missing? libc6-dev is installed...
[03:55] <somsip> wbill: how are you installing fltk?
[03:56] <thebluesquirel> is there any other wats to switch tabs in irssi?
[03:56] <thebluesquirel> ways
[03:56] <wbill> compiling it with a tarball
[03:57] <krytarik> thebluesquirel: That's more on topic in #irssi.
[03:57] <somsip> wbill: related thread, but old, and until you can find out what is missing, it's not an ubuntu issue https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=28911
[03:57] <brushdemon> Geo: have you installed the i386 lib?
[03:58] <somsip> wbill: do you have a desktop installed on the pi?
[03:58] <Moult> apt-get install apache2 gives me 2.4.7. i want >=2.4.8. i have tried apt-get install apache2=2.4.10-1ubuntu1.1~ubuntu14.04.1 but it doesn't find any package to install. how do i get apache2 >=2.4.8 ?
[03:58] <james> Hi guys I have an issue with The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:58] <james> teamviewer:i386:
[03:58] <somsip> Moult: what version of ubuntu?
[03:59] <Guest63607> Hi guys I have an issue with The following packages have unmet dependencies teamviewer:i386:
[03:59] <Geo> brushdemon- yeah, that seems to be missing. thanks
[03:59] <somsip> Guest63607: have you tried installing the dependencies?
[03:59] <Moult> somsip: trusty
[03:59] <Ben64> Moult: use a ppa or install 16.04
[03:59] <Guest63607> no
[03:59] <Guest63607> i don't know what that
[03:59] <Guest63607> but team viewer works
[03:59] <somsip> !info apache trusty | Moult (that's the supported version, or see !ppa)
[03:59] <Moult> Ben64: i am new to ubuntu. i would like to us a ppa, how do i find out which ppa i need to use, and where to place it?
[04:00] <somsip> !info apache2 trusty | Moult (that's the supported version, or see !ppa)
[04:00] <somsip> !ppa | Moult
[04:00] <Guest63607> but it's when i wanna update my system
[04:00] <wbill> forget i said pi im trying to install it on a intel core i7 also same version ubuntu screams the same way no X11 libs
[04:00] <somsip> Guest63607: so if it works, what's the real problem?
[04:00] <somsip> wbill: and what desktop is installed?
[04:01] <somsip> !paste | Guest63607 (paste the full error message)
[04:01] <Moult> somsip: hmm, there seems to be quite a few in that ppa search engine. how do i know which to use?
[04:01] <somsip> Moult: PPAs are unsupported, so you research and take the risk
[04:02] <somsip> Moult: *if* you decide to look at the ondrej (sp?) PPA, beware it can bring in other dependencies you might not want
[04:02] <Guest63607> when i run update
[04:02] <Moult> somsip: yep, was looking at that
[04:02] <Moult> somsip: don't mind the other deps though, will play
[04:03] <Moult> !addppa
[04:03] <somsip> Moult: it can cause real problems for people who want newer versions of PHP, so just apache might be okay
[04:05] <wbill> the Ubuntu Mate desktop whatever comes witht he normal install
[04:06] <Moult> somsip: hmm did add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/apache2
[04:06] <Moult> somsip: apt-get install apache2, but apache2 -v still says 2.4.7
[04:06] <somsip> Moult: apt-get update first
[04:07] <somsip> wbill: ah yes. You said. This might help, but this is not an ubuntu issue so I'm out now http://fltk.easysw.narkive.com/QWamvO6k/fltk-2-x11-libs-which-are-needed-ubuntu
[04:07] <Moult> somsip: looking again, https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/apache24 might be a cleaner ppa
[04:08] <somsip> Moult: I'd encourage you to make sure it's the right one for you before you install. PPAs can get ugly,. Hence, not supported here
[04:11] <SuperBawlz> Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble installing my NVIDIA drivers. I'm trying to use the Additional Drivers screen in the KDE interface.
[04:12] <SuperBawlz> When I select the NVIDIA drive is freezes for a few seconds and then goes back to Nouvea
[04:22] <Moult> !info php5-fpm trusty
[04:23] <R0binH00d> !info php-mysql
[04:24] <R0binH00d> !info hdajackretask
[04:24] <R0binH00d> !info alsa-tools
[04:24] <somsip> !abusethebot | R0binH00d
[04:24] <somsip> !bot | R0binH00d
[04:24] <Moult> !ppa-purge
[04:24] <R0binH00d> ?? somsip What was that for?
[04:25] <somsip> R0binH00d: if you're doing lots of bot commands, you can do them by pm to keep it out of the channel. That's all
[04:25] <R0binH00d> I did just 3
[04:25] <somsip> R0binH00d: or hit the webpage directly, which has a helpful search
[04:25] <dax> ubottu: abusethebot is <alias> botabuse
[04:28] <R0binH00d> somsip, I have searched the internet for 3 months straight to get HDAJackRetask to work on my HP laptop with beats audio, none of the solutions worked, i asked that question in this channel 4 times, no one replied, and 3 searches for the bot makes me a spammer?
[04:29] <R0binH00d> Utter Disgusting
[04:30] <somsip> R0binH00d: no mention of spam at all. Just a link to help you. Take umbrage if you will
[04:33] <Nene1> hello all..
[04:36] <Nene1> i am applying security patches using unattended-upgrades.. after applying patches i am rebooting machine if /var/run/reboot-required file exists.  Now issue is   /var/run/reboot-required still existing even after first reboot..
[04:36] <Nene1> so is there any way to avoid multiple reboots for applying security patches??
[04:38] <somsip> Nene1: it sounds like you are initiating the reboot. Is that right?
[04:39] <Nene1> somsip: yeah  i am rebooting for one time
[04:39] <somsip> Nene1: is there a problem that prevents you using unattended-upgrades built-in reboot?
[04:40] <Nene1> i can't use that... i am not applying patches manually
[04:41] <Nene1> I am applying patches manualyy***
[04:41] <Nene1> somsip: ^^
[04:42] <abhishek> I was facing a wifi issue with laptop. I am able to connect to wifi but it doesn't transmit data for the internet to work
[04:42] <abhishek> More details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/772180/wifi-not-working-realtek
[04:43] <abhishek> any ideas folks?
[04:44] <Nene1> somsip: i dont want automatic reboot...
[04:48] <potasmic> HEy guys
[04:48] <potasmic> what's the best Screenshotting tool on Ubuntu?
[04:48] <potasmic> I just switched from Win10, and ShareX was so good
[04:48] <potasmic> but Shutter is icky and obviously the default screenshotter doesn't have exporting
[04:55] <BlueShark> Hi. I'm only getting less than 2 hours battery life with Ubuntu whereas I get 4+ with Windows 8.1. Why is this?
[04:56] <fromhy> flashplayer firefox download
[04:58] <dchapman> potasmic: I like scrot.
[04:58] <potasmic> dchapman, is it in the app browser?
[04:58] <potasmic> lemme check
[04:59] <somsip> !info xsnap | potasmic (very simple)
[04:59] <dchapman> !info scrot
[04:59] <somsip> oh well
[04:59] <potasmic> dchapman, scrot isn't in the Ubuntu Software
[04:59] <dchapman> potasmic: apt install scrot
[04:59] <potasmic> aright
[05:00] <potasmic> Btw, is there a hotkey to bring up terminal like Win+R > cmd  on Win?
[05:00] <dchapman> Depends on your desktop environment / window manager. You may have to add a shortcut to launch the terminal of your choice.
[05:01] <icedwater> Hi guys, I'm using 12.04 and I couldn't get eth0 detected after a power outage. It's working fine on another distro, and the cable has been tested with another PC as well. What should I be looking for to fix it?
[05:01] <icedwater> potasmic: if you're using Unity, I think they have Ctrl-Alt-T by default.
[05:01] <potasmic> icedwater, got it
[05:01] <BlueShark> potasmic, Ctrl + Alt + T
[05:01] <icedwater> I switch it to Cmd-Z, but that's just what I prefer.
[05:01] <icedwater> Err, Win-Z.
[05:01] <fromhy> !info flashplayer
[05:02] <potasmic> ugh now I can't uninstall shutter
[05:02] <baizon> !info flashplugin-installer | fromhy
[05:03] <fromhy> !info flashplugin-installer
[05:05] <potasmic> what's the difference between apt and apt-get?
[05:05] <somsip> !info apt | potasmic (maybe it says here)
[05:05] <baizon> potasmic: https://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get
[05:06] <somsip> potasmic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get
[05:06]  * dax munches popcorn
[05:06] <potasmic> Okay, maybe I shouldn't ask questions that I can Google.
[05:06] <somsip> potasmic: a good rule to have
[05:06] <potasmic> right.
[05:08] <potasmic> Okay so scrot doesn't have uploading and stuff
[05:08] <jackone> are 802.1x in ubuntu there user and computer authentication mode?
[05:09] <somsip> jackone: markov chaining? Or can you rephrase?
[05:10] <jackone> for EAP(PEAP), it need username and password, no computer auth provided
[05:11] <somsip> jackone: ok - my apologies. I have no idea
[05:11] <BlueShark> somsip, lol
[05:13] <hateball> jackone: do you want to auth with a certificate?
[05:15] <jackone> auth with computer id authentication
[05:16] <jackone> but it has not the option
[05:17] <hateball> jackone: I think you may need to config wpa_supplicant for that manually
[05:17] <hateball> network-manager doesnt have a gui for it afaik
[05:18] <jackone> it's ethernet link for 802.1x security setting
[05:28] <pooka> hallo
[05:32] <Opr8> Just installed Ubuntu 64bit most recent version
[05:33] <Opr8> Spent about an hour or so downloading software and drivers
[05:34] <Opr8> Restart nd now it's hung up on a black screen with white text saying "/dev/sda3: clean 200328/15867904 files, 2527076/64453953 blocks"
[05:34] <Opr8> And I can't do anything, tried hard reset comes right back here. Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:35] <hateball> Opr8: what did you change before reboot? did you change gpu driver for instance?
[05:35] <Opr8> New GPU driver among other things yes
[05:35] <Opr8> Hateball yes
[05:36] <baizon> Opr8: nvidia?
[05:36] <Opr8> AMD r9 380
[05:37] <hateball> hmmm, AMD should have drivers installed with the kernel
[05:37] <hateball> Opr8: did you do something like manually download and install fglrx ?
[05:37] <Opr8> I think so yes.
[05:37] <Opr8> Wanted to install latest drivers and that's what I found online through a guide
[05:38] <hateball> afaik fglrx is not supported in 16.04, only radeon/amdgpu that are included with the kernel
[05:38] <Opr8> I'm a huge scrub at linuz
[05:38] <hateball> But I am not an AMD guy
[05:38] <dax> (hateball is correct)
[05:38] <Opr8> Gotcha so am I boned and have to reformat pretty much?
[05:38] <hateball> nah
[05:38] <dax> (not only is it not supported, it will not work without downgrading Xorg, which is not a particularly sane idea)
[05:38] <hateball> Opr8: You should be able to boot into recovery console and purge fglrx
[05:38] <fantomas_> ^
[05:39] <Opr8> Would you possibly know of a good guide to follow to do that?
[05:39] <Opr8> Also so I don't need drivers for my GPU then? It should just auto have them?
[05:40] <hateball> Opr8: Yes, it's included with the kernel
[05:41] <Opr8> Ah okay thanks very much. I'll try to figure out the recovery mode then. Very much appreciated
[05:41] <hateball> Opr8: Anyhows, I have no recent experience with AMD so I don't know how to remove fglrx
[05:41] <Opr8> Another thing I can't figure out, steam refused to launch after installing without error
[05:41] <hateball> Certainly not if it was a manual install. But there should be some uninstall script somewhere I guess
[05:41] <hateball> Opr8: That's a problem with the new amdgpu driver and steam
[05:41] <fantomas_> It should be as simple as sudo apt-get purge fglrx I think
[05:41] <fantomas_> I've been fighting with it today
[05:42] <Opr8> So I can't use steam right now?
[05:42] <hateball> Opr8: to launch steam, run it like so: LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' DISPLAY=:0 steam
[05:42] <Opr8> I tried that and it didn't work. Csnt remember the error it threw
[05:44] <Opr8> Sorry for all the noob questions. I'm booting recovery now. Which option should I choose to purge?
[05:45] <fantomas_> Someone else would know better than I would, but alt+ctrl+F1 brings up terminal
[05:45] <fantomas_> er, ctrl+alt+F1
[05:46] <Opr8> Hmm not seeming to work. Will dick around thanks.
[05:46] <hateball> Opr8: google suggests: sudo aticonfig --uninstall
[05:46] <Heero151> is there a setting I can change that will make it to where I no longer see when someone connects/disconnects/goesidle/shutsdown
[05:47] <hateball> Opr8: see the bottom post http://askubuntu.com/questions/445758/uninstalling-previous-install-of-the-fglrx-driver
[05:47] <nchambers> Heero151, depends on the client
[05:47] <nchambers> (assuming you're talking about IRC)
[05:48] <Opr8> Got it thanks ms uninstalling now
[05:49] <Opr8> Trying to boot
[05:50] <Opr8> I'm in. Alright now to figure out stream and figure out if my GPU has drivers
[05:51] <Opr8> Now it's throwing internal error related to Xorg xserver core
[05:51] <Opr8> Assuming that's GPU related
[05:51] <gambit1> for me, steam took what seemed like forever to launch
[05:52] <Opr8> I launched it and it does nothing. How long did you have to wait
[05:52] <gambit1> and the amd/ati driver should be the open source one, should be radeon something or other.
[05:52] <gambit1> uhm, at least 5 minutes, i thought it didn't install correctly bcause it took so long
[05:52] <hateball> Opr8: just launching via the gui launcher wont work afaik, you need to launch with the command I gave you
[05:54] <Opr8> Hateball that command gives me "steam runtime is enabled automatically. Steamuodateui an X error occured"
[05:55] <CarlenWhite> How do I boot myself into Single User mode?
[05:55] <Opr8> "X error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range
[05:55] <CarlenWhite> I'm on Ubuntu Server and I do not get the GRUB boot screen.
[05:56] <hateball> Opr8: Really? Hmmm. Did you paste the string, or type manually?
[05:56] <baizon> Opr8: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16452897/
[05:56] <CarlenWhite> Nevermind. Managed to get to the GRUB screen.
[05:56] <opr8pc> type manually, im on my pc now if you'd be kind enough to paste again
[05:56] <opr8pc> i could copy
[05:56] <hateball> CarlenWhite: You should be able to hold/hammer left shift
[05:56] <hateball> CarlenWhite: oh :)
[05:57] <CarlenWhite> Seems like when I was booting it from Hyper-V, there was a bit of hesitation before it could 'connect' and display the screen. I caught it before GRUB timed out.
[05:57] <hateball> with the latest steam beta client you should be able to launch it with "STEAM_RUNTIME=0 steam" as well. of course you have to be able to start it and update first :|
[05:58] <Bill_Gates> Hey ubuntuans
[05:58] <opr8pc> STEAM_RUNTIME=0 steam gave me a new error saying im missing libraries
[05:58] <opr8pc> so this is something to follow at least
[05:58] <Bill_Gates> Any way to save files in guest mode??
[05:58] <baizon> opr8pc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16452897/
[05:58] <CarlenWhite> Um
[05:59] <CarlenWhite> Whoops? http://puu.sh/oTCxy.png
[05:59] <opr8pc> https://paste.ubuntu.com/16452915/
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Bill_Gates: on usb stick
[06:00] <opr8pc> baizon i get nothing returned when using that command
[06:00] <baizon> opr8pc: restart steam then
[06:00] <Bill_Gates> No, other than that.
[06:00] <CarlenWhite> Hrm
[06:00] <opr8pc> it works!
[06:01] <Bill_Gates> Within the present sources.
[06:01] <opr8pc> Thanks so much baizon hateball
[06:01] <CarlenWhite> Oh the machine isn't dead. Just had a black screen for a moment.
[06:01] <hateball> opr8pc: :)
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Bill_Gates: what sources?
[06:01] <baizon> opr8pc: save that command, that happens more often with steam ;)
[06:01] <opr8pc> okay will do
[06:01] <Bill_Gates> HDD, i
[06:01] <Bill_Gates> think
[06:01] <hateball> opr8pc: yeah, if the client updates it'll put those files back
[06:02] <opr8pc> seems weird for that big of a problem to be persisting
[06:02] <opr8pc> who's fault is it?
[06:02] <hateball> Really wish Valve would update the Steam Runtime to a 16.04 base
[06:02] <hateball> opr8pc: Well, I'd blame Valve :p
[06:02] <baizon> opr8pc: valve, because of their own libraries
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | Bill_Gates try to make sense please
[06:03] <opr8pc> where can i rent a pitchfork?
[06:03] <opr8pc> also why the hell isnt rocketleague on linux yet?
[06:03] <opr8pc> shit was supposed to be q1 2015
[06:04] <Bill_Gates> Just need to authorize guest mode for limited file storage access. ugges
[06:04] <hateball> baizon, opr8pc: however without the runtime we would likely have less games, so it's a blessing and a curse :)
[06:04] <Bill_Gates> Just need to authorize guest mode for limited file storage access. *Suggest a way to do so
[06:04] <opr8pc> hateball ill just rent a small pitchfork then
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> Bill_Gates: tell us why you dont use the admin account instead of the guest one?
[06:04] <kalenedrael> how do I tell ubuntu to not mount an encrypted /home partition at boot time? I'd like to mount it manually after booting
[06:05] <kalenedrael> (this on is ubuntu server 16.04)
[06:05] <opr8pc> Hateball baizon is there anyway to fix the weird network activity of steam on linux? On Windows I get solid 14-15mbs. on linux its like 2.5mbs - 0 - 15 - 0
[06:06] <hateball> opr8pc: Do other applications work as expected, network-wise?
[06:06] <opr8pc> havent tested any yet
[06:06] <hateball> opr8pc: Are you wireless?
[06:06] <opr8pc> besides chrome/firefox they worked fine
[06:06] <opr8pc> wired
[06:07] <hateball> opr8pc: Check your regional settings in Steam perhaps. If other things works properly it's not really an Ubuntu problem
[06:07] <hateball> opr8pc: fwiw I cap out my 130mbps connection, so it's not a general issue at any rate
[06:07] <opr8pc> kk
[06:08] <opr8pc> just did speedtest.net and got awful result compared to windows
[06:08] <opr8pc> its very jittery
[06:09] <Bill_Gates> Oh god! I'm admin but for someone to use my pc, I need to provide them a storage space for conveniency . So, that's why ....
[06:10] <hateball> opr8pc: what chipset/model are you using? "lspci -k" will tell
[06:10] <hateball> chipset/module*
[06:10] <Bill_Gates> Can't afford to provide admin access.
[06:11] <hateball> Bill_Gates: You could make a folder under /opt/ that's rw for everyone. Think about the consequences tho
[06:11] <opr8pc> hateball https://paste.ubuntu.com/16453000/
[06:11] <hateball> opr8pc: Is the wifi not being used at all now?
[06:11] <opr8pc> no, its not connected
[06:16] <hateball> opr8pc: hmmm, I am just googling since it's not a problem I know of. Some old posts suggest changing MTU improves performance
[06:16] <Robbster> morning all. I've got a 1TB external WD drive that I recently purchased. I used it once to put a dd image of my HDD on, and now it isn't readable in either ubuntu OR windows. (NTFS)
[06:17] <Bill_Gates> consequences ??
[06:17] <Robbster> I'm not sure what to do about it.
[06:17] <opr8pc> hateball no problem man, if you've not heard of it i can dig
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Robbster: what happens at boot mate?
[06:18] <Robbster> boot? drive not connected at boot (external)
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Robbster: oh your not gonna replace it as mian, right..
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> main
[06:19] <Robbster> humm, interesting, I can access it from the command line...
[06:19] <hateball> opr8pc: here's a bug report at any rate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1275161
[06:19] <Robbster> just not in nautilus
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Robbster: did you try to format the drive with gparted? or do you still need the data on?
[06:20] <Robbster> and many of the files (the ones that come on the drive) are owned by ?.? and have a datetime of ?
[06:20] <Robbster> seems like a corrupted drive?
[06:20] <Robbster> lotuspsychje: never formatted, but it seems like I'll need to :)
[06:20] <opr8pc> very weird
[06:20] <Robbster> now, where to put the 256GB hdd image.....
[06:20]  * Robbster hunts for another drive...
[06:21] <Robbster> thanks lotuspsychje
[06:21] <hateball> opr8pc: there is also this https://unixblogger.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/the-pain-of-an-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-ethernet-card/
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Robbster: good luck mate
[06:22] <r4hul> opr8pc: use r8168 instead of r8169
[06:24] <hateball> opr8pc: "sudo apt-get install r8168-dkms" should switch driver
[06:25] <opr8pc> hateball attempting now
[06:26] <opr8pc> hateball r4hul https://paste.ubuntu.com/16453117/
[06:28] <r4hul> opr8pc: pastebin output of inxi -Nnx pls
[06:29] <Faiz> i need help
[06:29] <Faiz> is anyone online ?
[06:29] <Faiz> is anyone online ??
[06:29] <Faiz> hello ?
[06:29] <opr8pc> r4hul https://paste.ubuntu.com/16453146/
[06:30] <dax> there are plenty of people online. they tend to be more likely to appear if you ask your actual question though
[06:30] <Faiz> oh
[06:30] <Faiz> nice
[06:30] <Faiz> my main problem is
[06:30] <hateball> opr8pc: you'll need to reboot tho
[06:30] <Faiz> i messed up with my ubunt
[06:30] <Faiz> system
[06:30] <hateball> opr8pc: or manually modprobe -r r8169 && modprobe r8168
[06:31] <Faiz> there r black borders on every window
[06:31] <Faiz> nd i cant find system
[06:31] <Faiz> which was on the top bar
[06:31] <opr8pc> hateball r4hul rebooting brb
[06:32] <Faiz> what should i do ?
[06:33] <Arcaire> What's that command again?
[06:33] <Arcaire> !patience | Faiz
[06:33] <Faiz> sry
[06:34] <opr8pc_> r4hul hateball back
[06:34] <hateball> opr8pc: have a look with "lspci -k" again, see that r8168 is loaded
[06:34] <WICK3D> hello out there
[06:34] <opr8pc_> hateball r4hul
[06:34] <opr8pc_> yes it is using that one
[06:35] <opr8pc_> will try a steam download again
[06:35] <Faiz> oh i forgot to mention
[06:35] <Faiz> my terminal is blank
[06:35] <Faiz> cant see anything in it
[06:35] <WICK3D> is steam the best way to play windows based games?
[06:35] <opr8pc_> hateball full speed so far, no jitters
[06:36] <hateball> !wine | WICK3D
[06:39] <Faiz> ah
[06:39] <Faiz> i gtg now
[06:40] <WICK3D> yeag, i have WINE and steam on, cant make sence of it
[06:41] <Trinity> i've editted my /etc/sudoers file and the changes havent taken effect
[06:41] <Trinity> I've even relogged and restarted my computer. The only times it does work is when I type 'sudo service sudo restart' in a terminal. And then only that terminal will have it work for it
[06:41] <Trinity> any ideas of what I can do?
[06:42] <hateball> WICK3D: there is also playonlinux that is meant to make wine-gaming easier
[06:44] <opr8pc_> Thanks for all the help tonight hateball, im heading to bed. Gnight
[06:45] <hateball> opr8pc_: :)
[06:48] <Trinity> hmm, nvmd about what I asked before. Can someone tell me how I can get the /etc/sudoers file to take effect
[06:49] <ikonia> Trinity: it's real time
[06:50] <baizon> Trinity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[06:50] <Trinity> baizon, i've gone through that and searched it. Nothing said anything about realtime. Thanks ikonia
[06:50] <WICK3D> where is !AppDB found
[06:51] <hateball> !appdb | WICK3D
[06:51] <WICK3D> i have playonlinux too...lol
[06:52] <ikonia> why is that funny ?
[06:52] <Trinity> http://pastebin.com/nH9erZRh heres my sudoers file
[06:52] <Trinity> but it's still prompting me for a password
[06:53] <ikonia> Trinity: please show is the exact command you are running
[06:54] <WICK3D> might try left for dead 4 --- can i just download the torrrent?
[06:54] <Trinity> ikonia, i'm running 'sudo visudo'
[06:54] <ikonia> Trinity: wand that's what's asking you for a password
[06:54] <ikonia> WICK3D: we do not support piracy here - please don't ask again
[06:54] <baizon> Trinity: if you run sudo, the pwd prompt pops up
[06:54] <Trinity> and I'm entering this into it. user is actually my username. http://paste.linux.chat/view/c8e155fd
[06:55] <ikonia> Trinity: what is the exact command you are using please
[06:55] <Trinity> ikonia, ./firewall-on.sh
[06:55] <ikonia> Trinity: right - that is not in your sudoers file
[06:55] <Trinity> ikonia, how is it not?
[06:55] <ikonia> Trinity: /home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/firewall-on.sh IS in your sudoers file
[06:56] <WICK3D> sorry ikonia
[06:56] <ikonia> Trinity: what you are typing is totally different
[06:56] <Trinity> ikonia, thats where it's located. I run ./firewall-on.sh when i'm in the working directory of /home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/
[06:56] <ikonia> Trinity: yes, and that is not in your sudoers path
[06:56] <ikonia>  /home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/firewall-on.sh is in your sudoers path
[06:57] <Trinity> ikonia, ah I see. hold on
[06:58] <Trinity> ikonia, now i'm running '/home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/firewall-on.sh' in the terminal and i'm still being prompted for sudo
[06:58] <ikonia> Trinity: can you show me the exact command line you're running please
[06:59] <Trinity> ikonia, perhaps i'm misunderstanding. What do you mean by the exact command line i'm running? When i'm starting the application defined in the sudoers file? If so, it would be '/home/dcai/Workshop/project/netest/firewall-on.sh' right now
[06:59] <ikonia> Trinity: I'm asking you to show me exactly what you are typing into the terminal please
[07:00] <Trinity> that is exactly what I am typing into the terminal...
[07:00] <ikonia> Trinity: no, it's not, as there is no sudo in there
[07:00] <Trinity> ah finally i get it
[07:01] <Trinity> ikonia, sudo iptables-restore < /home/dcai/Workshop/project/nettest/on
[07:01] <Trinity> so I should put that in the suders correct?
[07:01] <ikonia> Trinity: right - that is NOT in your sudo filep
[07:01] <ikonia> Trinity: where is iptables-restore in your rules ?
[07:01] <Trinity> its not and that would be why I am having this issue
[07:02] <Trinity> thanks ikonia ! sorry for being such a dunce lol
[07:02] <ikonia> you're wasting my time
[07:02] <Trinity> its working now
[07:04] <snapfractalpop> Anyone here running Brave on ubuntu?
[07:04] <snapfractalpop> I can't get the git to compile.. and don't know if there's a channel for it on freenode
[07:04] <ikonia> just use the package supplied by ubuntu
[07:07] <snapfractalpop> ikonia: I didn't even realize there was one..
[07:07] <snapfractalpop> I'll check it out
[07:09] <baizon> snapfractalpop: https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/releases
[07:09] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: just open the ubuntu package manager, and search for git
[07:09] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: you may find https://help.ubuntu.com a good introduction on using the basics of ubuntu, including the package manager
[07:10] <snapfractalpop> ikonia: I couldn't find brave in the repos..
[07:10] <snapfractalpop> baizon: thanks
[07:10] <snapfractalpop> I will use the deb if I can't compile from source
[07:10] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: you asked for git, not brave
[07:10] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: ahh, I missread,
[07:10] <ikonia> snapfractalpop: sorry, I see what you're asking
[07:11] <snapfractalpop> ikonia: sorry.. I was not very clear the way I asked
[07:11] <rofiquzzaki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0iZ9kNj9X8
[07:11] <snapfractalpop> I can see how you misinterpretted my meaning
[07:11] <rofiquzzaki> sorry, wrong paste
[07:11] <snapfractalpop> I meant the github on Brave
[07:12] <snapfractalpop> I'm looking into a pre-req that I didn't have installed
[07:13] <snapfractalpop> I needed the libgnome-keyring-dev package.. now it seems to have compiled with npm install
[07:19] <snapfractalpop> does anyone know where Brave dev discussion takes place?
[07:21] <Myrtti> snapfractalpop: looks like it's not in freenode, judging from alis output
[07:21] <snapfractalpop> Myrtti: thanks. I fear such
[07:21] <snapfractalpop> feared*
[07:21] <Infern0> I have an extremely annoying resolution issue right now. I simply cannot get my resolution to fit my display properly. In the past I used an over/underscan feature with arrows to make a custom resolution but the nvidia driver I'm currently using doesn't seem to have that damn option.
[07:21] <snapfractalpop> I can't seem to find where discussion happens
[07:23] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: I used to use one with an ati card..
[07:24] <snapfractalpop> also, as a workaround, when I use xfce (and gnome 2) I placed empty panels around the screen as a workaround
[07:24] <snapfractalpop> still, then I'd lose the edges on fullscreen
[07:24] <Infern0> snapfractalpop What do you do if the driver you have doesn't offer it?
[07:24] <Infern0> I currently am using xfce myself
[07:25] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: you could try the panels thing.. though it's pretty hacky..
[07:25] <Infern0> =\
[07:25] <snapfractalpop> it is a workaround for sure
[07:25] <snapfractalpop> basically, just until you figure something else out.. you can create panels
[07:25] <Infern0> it does have an over or underscan option but only values not the arrows and even if I miss a little screen I'm okay but I seem to be missing the screen itself it doesn't just make it fit
[07:26] <snapfractalpop> I imagine the tv / monitor doesn't have a "just scan" option?
[07:26] <Infern0> I'd like it fixed so I can play games on steam in peace lol
[07:26] <snapfractalpop> or that you've exhausted those kinds of options?
[07:27] <Infern0> it's limited in regards to options with my tv itself
[07:27] <snapfractalpop> what are the specs of the tv?
[07:27] <Infern0> but the graphics card should support it I've done it in the past I didn't think it was only the windows version of the driver but it has been a while
[07:27] <bobdobbs> When I log in, a whole bunch of programs start up that I don't want to start. How can I stop them from starting?
[07:28] <Infern0> I'm not sure the specs let me check
[07:28] <snapfractalpop> is it 1920x1080?
[07:28] <Infern0> it wants to run 1920x1080 but im missing screen it's slightly too large
[07:28] <bobdobbs> I googled on how to control startup programmes, but all of the posted solutions I found require the user to be running gnome. I'm running kde.
[07:29] <bobdobbs> It's kind of annoying. All those blogs post things titled: "how to do x in ubuntu". But what they really mean is "how to use gnome on ubuntu to do x"
[07:29] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: I take your meaning as the pixels at the edge are off the screen, and there are no black areas?
[07:29] <Infern0> correct
[07:30] <snapfractalpop> yes, this was my problem too
[07:30] <Infern0> my mouse can go where I can't see lol
[07:30] <snapfractalpop> that's why the panels help a little..
[07:30] <snapfractalpop> they push the normal windows back onto the screen..
[07:30] <snapfractalpop> however, it's not ideal
[07:31] <snapfractalpop> you lose resolution for one thing, but more importantly, it doesn't work for true fullscreen applications
[07:31] <Infern0> well it took a while to get this far because with the generic drivers I tried a bad resolution my screen couldn't do, had to ctrl+alt+F1 and manually install the latest nvidia driver then reboot.
[07:31] <Infern0> But now I have this issue
[07:31] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: surely there must be info on some blogs about kde startup programs..?
[07:32] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: do you currently have the lastest nvidia drivers?
[07:32] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: I did find one article actually. But the solution was outdated.
[07:32] <snapfractalpop> there might be a command then to adjust overscan
[07:32] <Infern0> I was just thinking I should check that because I used one off a blog that might not be up to date one moment
[07:33] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: this was the command for my radeon 6450: sudo aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,6
[07:33] <snapfractalpop> there might be something like that for nvidia
[07:34] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: at the moment when I open the desktop environment, gimp, inkscape, docky, docker and a bunch of
[07:34] <bobdobbs> otther things start
[07:35] <Infern0> yes I am using the latest driver
[07:35] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: there's a question about it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/271715/how-can-i-get-my-nvidia-overscan-setting-to-work-on-start-up-ubuntu-12-10
[07:35] <snapfractalpop> not sure if that will help... but it might be worth trying some stuff
[07:36] <snapfractalpop> I will recommend to heavily research any command that requires sudo before pressing enter..
[07:36] <snapfractalpop> just better safe than sorry.. you know
[07:36] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: that sounds like a lot
[07:36] <bobdobbs> iknowright
[07:36] <snapfractalpop> is that a laptop?
[07:37] <bobdobbs> no
[07:37] <snapfractalpop> sure it's not suspending?
[07:37] <snapfractalpop> hm..
[07:37] <snapfractalpop> what distro?
[07:37] <bobdobbs> ubuntu 14.04
[07:37] <snapfractalpop> but you said it was kde?
[07:37] <bobdobbs> actually, might be 16.0something. I'll check
[07:38] <bobdobbs> yep. ubuntu 14.04
[07:38] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: that's not how it should start by default..
[07:38] <Infern0> I seem to have fixed it
[07:38] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: it's certainly not what I want to happen upon start
[07:38] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: great! :)
[07:39] <Infern0> 1920x1080 resolution with 50 underscan seems to be perfect
[07:39] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: what was it?
[07:39] <snapfractalpop> nice!
[07:39] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: now, to make it persist!
[07:39] <Infern0> mine will be automatic
[07:39] <snapfractalpop> and write down what you did elsewhere too, in case an update wipes it
[07:39] <Infern0> the latest nvidia driver lets you save the configuration to the xfile
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: isn't there a startup folder / menu or something?
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> could be in settings, or scripted somewhere.
[07:40] <Infern0> thanks for the help
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: did you install this yourself?
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: NP
[07:40] <snapfractalpop> glad it worked out
[07:40] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: I'm sure there are settings or scripts somewhere. I'm just not sure where to look
[07:40] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: the OS? Yes, I installed myself.
[07:41] <bobdobbs> I also unstalled those applications myself.
[07:41] <bobdobbs> I guess I could purge them. But I might want to keep docker. I just dont want it to start up every time I log in.
[07:41] <Infern0> I was getting sick and tired of this issue and this is all I came up with before fixing it just now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpOyKCNZYw
[07:41] <bobdobbs> docky I could purge happily
[07:41] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: the xfile might get overwritten next time you update via the repos.. I don't know if the nvidia drivers have a way to re-fix it again after that
[07:42] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: those applications are great
[07:42] <snapfractalpop> it's worth finding out why they are starting up
[07:42] <snapfractalpop> IMO
[07:42] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: well, I'm using cairo-dock. So I don't need docky. I'm purging it now.
[07:42] <snapfractalpop> I mean gimp, inkscape and the like
[07:43] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: classic!
[07:43] <snapfractalpop> haha
[07:43] <ducasse> bobdobbs: look under ~/.config/autostart
[07:43] <bobdobbs> oh yeah. I use gimp every day, and inkscape at least once a week. But again... I just don't want them to start automatically when I log in.
[07:43] <Infern0> snap I don't think so because new versions of ubuntu no longer use an xorg.conf file which my driver created. You are able to make one, but only to fix issues like this.
[07:43] <bobdobbs> ducasse: thanks. looking...
[07:43] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: I don't blame you
[07:44] <bobdobbs> ducasse: I see two files there: docky.desktop and shutter.desktop. I'm removed them both
[07:45] <ducasse> bobdobbs: what desktop environment are you using?
[07:45] <bobdobbs> ducasse: KDE
[07:45] <ducasse> bobdobbs: then look under .kde too, there might be something there.
[07:46] <snapfractalpop> Infern0: ah, well that is nice to know
[07:46] <snapfractalpop> me being paranoid, I'd probably keep a copy somewhere in my home folder just in case..
[07:47] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: I still find it unusual that these would be starting up on their own in a vanilla install
[07:47] <bobdobbs> me neither
[07:47] <snapfractalpop> then again, I've been off vanilla for quite some time..
[07:49] <bobdobbs> ok. there's a thing: 'system settings'->'autostart'. Supposedly this shows services that are set to start automatically. But it doesn't list anything when I check it.
[07:50] <bobdobbs> also there is ~/.kde/Autostart. I emptied it earlier, but it only had an entry for 'kde.desktop'.
[07:51] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: another angle you could use in your "investigation" of this issue is pstree
[07:51] <snapfractalpop> on the command line, you can type pstree while those programs are running.. it may tell you something about what launched them.. (possibly)
[07:52] <bobdobbs> oh yeah. pstree shows me even more programs that run on startup that I want to die
[07:52] <bobdobbs> there's a vmware process that I don't need to use.
[07:52] <bobdobbs> I guess that that's what docker is running on
[07:52] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: did you get the disk for the vanilla install yourself?
[07:52] <snapfractalpop> and you checked it's hash?
[07:52] <amr_>  if you please can help me with problem with my laptop internal mic lenovo b50-70
[07:53] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: this doesn't have anything to do with the initial install. These are programms that I've installed myself at some point.
[07:53] <snapfractalpop> ah
[07:53] <snapfractalpop> whew
[07:53] <snapfractalpop> I misunderstood.
[07:54] <amr_> i tried to solve the inverted mic problem many ways (upgrading kernel - install latest ALSA - Manipulating alsa settings - mixer ) no result
[07:55] <amr_> my laptop internal mic is not working with skype or faceook
[07:56] <amr_> if anyone knows how to make mic work i have ubuntu 16.04 updated to mainstream kernel 4.6
[07:56] <rhagu> Hi I have several file (approx. 40 GB each) and need to transfer them over a VPN connection, which is rather unstable. How would you do that? I am looking for something like torrent at the moment.
[07:57] <amr_> i have found that there maybe kernel patch to solve this issue but i want to know how ??!!
[07:58] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: anything found if you run  initctl list
[07:58] <OerHeks> amr_, that lenovo mic works on 1 channel, right? only right, not left, and if you use both channels, it won work ( like skype with auto sound )
[07:59] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: you can use transmission
[07:59] <bobdobbs> snapfractalpop: a lot of things are listed. But not inkscape or gimp or docker
[07:59] <bobdobbs> ... or vmware
[07:59] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: I wouldn't have thought.. but anything in there that might startup other things?
[08:00] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: I know enough to know that that's a lot I don't know
 trying to make one channel work by using PAVU not working even for skype
[08:00] <snapfractalpop> bobdobbs: there's lots of little nooks and crannys where things can be placed (like "hooks") to start things up
[08:00] <OerHeks> you can turn that off in skype > http://askubuntu.com/questions/695135/microphone-not-working-correctly-on-lenovo-b50 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1524215
[08:01] <snapfractalpop> amr_: does amixer or alsamixer show anything?
[08:02] <rhagu> snapfractalpop thanks, I will have a look at it
[08:02] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: you're welcome
[08:03] <rhagu> snapfractalpop can I create those torrents with transmission?
[08:03] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: is it something you want to keep private?
[08:03] <rhagu> yes
[08:03] <r00t_> wow
[08:03] <amr_> snapfractalpop alsamixer shows regular settings
[08:03] <amr_> nothing specific
[08:04] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: you should be able to use transmission
[08:04] <ducasse> rhagu: you could also look at rsync
[08:04] <snapfractalpop> but I will disclose that I have not done so myself
[08:04] <snapfractalpop> if you are just transferring to one other place, rsync is probably better
[08:05] <snapfractalpop> the man page has some examples
 alsamixer changing mic levels is not working either
[08:05] <snapfractalpop> there are switches to preseve permissions and such
[08:06] <rhagu> ducasse snapfractalpop but how well does rsync handle failed connections?  I think transmission sounds nice, but I probably need to set up a tracker
[08:06] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I don't know.. make sure you check all the options in alsamixer.. in case theres some that aren't visible right away
 i have been trying to fix that issue since 14.04 and i think kernel patching is the only solution
[08:06] <snapfractalpop> rhagu: you can resume
[08:06] <snapfractalpop> it will only transfer what wasn't sent last time
[08:07] <ducasse> rhagu: it's easy to recover from a failed connection with rsync, you just restart and it will handle the rest.
[08:07] <snapfractalpop> amr_: you may be right.. I just wanted to point out alsamixer because sometimes the regular gui hides things
 i can send you screenshot of alsamixer - pav and everything all i need is to get that stupid error solver
[08:07] <rhagu> ducasse I will give it a try
[08:07] <snapfractalpop> amr_: is this a known issue?
[08:08] <amr_> yes
[08:08] <ducasse> rhagu: take a look at the man page to make sure you use the right options for your case.
[08:08] <snapfractalpop> if there is a patch specifically for that issue, it may be worth patching
 i don't know how to patch
[08:08] <amr_> i think there is
[08:09] <snapfractalpop> but you'd need the disk space for the kernel source, and the build tools, and such
 no problem i will do whatever it takes that's the only reason why i keep windows on my pc
[08:09] <snapfractalpop> amr_: there are a couple of kinds of patches, but whatever mailing list or whatever that it's listed in probably has the type of patch mentioned
[08:10] <snapfractalpop> then you can use the patch command to splice the lines of code and compile the module
[08:10] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I run linux on chromebook and had to deal with a lot of patches because of that
[08:11] <snapfractalpop> learned way more than I intended to, but it's cool, because I'm glad I learned it
if you can help me by a tutorial link or anything
[08:11] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I can try .. can you send me a link to the patch you are talking about?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1529624
that lenovo model has the same mic that of b50-70
[08:16] <ducasse> amr_: that bug link says 'fix released'. i'd rather get the fixed package, so you don't need to rebuild the kernel every time there is an update.
[08:16] <snapfractalpop> amr_: it seems from that thread that the fix is released
[08:16] <snapfractalpop> you don't need to patch
[08:16] <OerHeks> amr_, that post gives patched kernels in proposed what is your kernel now? open terminal: uname -a
[08:16] <snapfractalpop> ducasse: JINX
[08:16] <snapfractalpop> haha
 Linux amr-laptop 4.6.0-040600-generic #201605151930
[08:17] <snapfractalpop> amr_: have you updated recently?
[08:18] <OerHeks> oh, fay beyond 4.4.0-4.19 ..
[08:18] <OerHeks> c/far
 yes i updated kernel to latest mainstream kernel hope that will solve it
[08:18] <snapfractalpop> amr_: hm.. and it was a regression then?
[08:18] <OerHeks> i think that patch for, b50-80 is not for your b50-60
  but nothing happened now internal mic is not detected (unplugged) in PAVU
  yes
[08:19] <snapfractalpop> amr_: do you mean to say, before, it was detected, but not working properly, and with mainstream kernel, it is undetected?
 yes exactly before was detected working with audacity only not skype or facebook or hangouts
 now it's unplugged and not working in audacity or anywhere
[08:22] <snapfractalpop> amr_: yours is E50-60?
 my model is b50-70 and i don't know but the problem was the same (phase inversion)
[08:22] <ubuntuguy> I created a single partition on the entire hard drive and installed ubuntu on that
 b50-70
[08:22] <landon1> single partition.. do you have a swap partition?
[08:22] <ubuntuguy> How do I install Windows without disrupting the ubuntu installation?
[08:22] <ubuntuguy> landon1: Yep that too, of course
[08:23] <snapfractalpop> ubuntuguy: you can use gparted to resize the partition
[08:23] <snapfractalpop> make a partition to put windows on it
[08:23] <landon1> use gparted to resize, install windows on blank partition. use live-cd to reinstall grub and update grub
[08:23] <ubuntuguy> What? Like I mean without uninstalling and repartitioning
[08:24] <ubuntuguy> Well, can you provide me with a link??
[08:24] <snapfractalpop> ubuntuguy: you don't have to uninstall, but you do have to repartition
[08:24] <snapfractalpop> unless you want to use virtualbox
[08:24] <SwedeMike> ubuntuguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[08:24] <snapfractalpop> amr_: hm.. that sounds annoying..
[08:24] <OerHeks> ubuntuguy, really, installing windows without repartitioning?
[08:24] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I assume you kept the old kernel?
[08:24] <OerHeks> ubuntuguy, we advise to install windows, THEN install ubuntu.
[08:24] <ubuntuguy> snapfractalpop: I can repartition even the partition on which ubuntu is installed?
 then
[08:25] <snapfractalpop> ubuntuguy: yes
[08:25] <snapfractalpop> well.. resize it
 i may reinstall everything if there is a solution
[08:25] <SwedeMike> ubuntuguy: you have to resize the file system first though, then you can change the partition. Some tools do this automatically.
[08:25] <snapfractalpop> and create a new partition from the unallocated space
[08:25] <ubuntuguy> cool ok
[08:25] <ubuntuguy> Thanks
 just tell me what to do then and i will reinstall ubuntu no problem
 this problem is annoying to me and as i told the only reason i'm keeping windows on my laptop
[08:27] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I am not an expert in these things... I can just say that you may be on the road to success.. I just can't say how long the road is, or whether you will run out of gas.. or whatever..
[08:27] <snapfractalpop> amr_: that is frustrating
[08:28] <ducasse> amr_: you could try the kernel in -proposed, but if it's not for your model it might not help.
[08:28] <snapfractalpop> amr_: you could try making your own patch at your own risk.. by just adding a line with your model name
[08:28] <amr_> ok tell me how
[08:29] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I have done things like that (super hacky) with surprising success
[08:29] <CRzz> Hi, have there been any updates for the issue with usb bt HID tongles recently?
 ok tell me how to do that and i will try
[08:30] <snapfractalpop> amr_: this will be a little bit of the blind leading the blind, but I'll give it a shot
[08:30] <snapfractalpop> first.. do you see the directory that the realtek.c file is in?
  realtek.c in kernel source you mean or where ???
[08:32] <snapfractalpop> basically, you have to get the kernel source, and the source for the module in question
  i will download kerenel source now
[08:34] <snapfractalpop> amr_: make sure it's for the kernel that recognized your mic
[08:34] <snapfractalpop> because whatever that regression was could be a whole new issue
 i'm downloading it from kernel.org is that ok ???
[08:36] <ducasse> snapfractalpop: wouldn't it be easiest to get the kernel source from proposed, add the model number to that, then rebuild?
[08:36] <somsip> wifi over LAN with a <5ms ping increases hugely as soon as any load is put on the target server. I'm relatively clueless on wifi and have got nowhere in 2 hours, so what's obvious to look at
[08:36] <snapfractalpop> ducasse: possibly.. but he's saying that the newest kernel doesn't even recognize his mic anymore
[08:37] <snapfractalpop> amr_: ducasse actually, it will be helpful to have the diff of the module between those versions
[08:38] <ducasse> snapfractalpop: that's a problem, since he would need to stay on that kernel version. would probably be better to add a comment to the bug report to get it added there.
 i have now kernel 4.4 downloaded and extracted
[08:39] <snapfractalpop> also, the model number also has some hex codes.. not sure what he would put there
 tell me then what to do
[08:40] <snapfractalpop> do you have the module source?
[08:41] <snapfractalpop> (where the patch was applied in the thread)?
 did you read that thread i have a little knowledge regarding patching
[08:43] <snapfractalpop> amr_: I didn't see an actual patch file, but essentially, it's just adding / removing lines of code
[08:43] <snapfractalpop> the lines with a "+" get added
[08:43] <snapfractalpop> lines with a "-" get removed
[08:44] <snapfractalpop> the "@@" tells you where in the file to go to find those lines
[08:44] <snapfractalpop> and some extra lines around the added / removed ones are provided for context
[08:45] <snapfractalpop> those are left as is
[08:48] <snapfractalpop> you could do this manually (which in this case seems appropriate as you will be changing the file further anyway)
[08:49] <snapfractalpop> but usually, you have a patch file that looks a bit like what is posted after the diff --git line and use the patch command to do the work for you
[08:50] <snapfractalpop> once you have made the modifications, you can try to compile it
[08:50] <snapfractalpop> you may want to try to compile it before making any modifications just so you know that you can
[08:52] <flux242> hi, freshly installed ubuntu 16.04 base system boots into tty7 instead of tty1, why is that?
[08:53] <snapfractalpop> flux242: it's my vague understanding that tty1 and tty7 were somehow linked..
[08:53] <jatt> X always starts on tty7 by default no?
[08:53] <flux242> no x
[08:53] <flux242> installed
[08:53] <snapfractalpop> when I have x, I never use tty1
[08:54] <snapfractalpop> I always start with tty2 because tty1 seems to have issues where it's seems tied up with tty7 .. (or something like that)
[08:54] <OerHeks> flux242, so how do you install ubuntu base system?
[08:54] <Ben64> flux242: how did you install
[08:54] <flux242> mini cd
[08:55] <OerHeks> mini cd without any package/desktop, sounds oke to boot in tty7. only server boots in tty1
[08:56] <snapfractalpop> OerHeks: are they linked somehow?
[08:56] <flux242> it wasnt that way before 16.04
[08:56] <OerHeks> snapfractalpop, with mini he installed lightdm, AFAIK
[08:57] <jatt> what does
[08:57] <jatt> ps aux | grep tty
[08:57] <jatt> say (use pastebin)
[08:57] <snapfractalpop> OerHeks: what I mean is, I vaguely remember having issues with tty1 when I had issues with X, even though it's used on tty7
[08:57] <OerHeks> flux242, what DM > dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /dm$/'
[08:58] <snapfractalpop> so I always jump to tty2 from X, when I need it..
[08:58] <flux242> no dm, only command line
[08:58] <OerHeks> snapfractalpop, like 'startx' ?
[08:59] <flux242> jatt: tty1 because i only can issue commands if I first switch to tt1
[09:00] <snapfractalpop> OerHeks: idk.. I guess
[09:00] <flux242> no my understanding any desktop task should switch to tty7 otherwise it should stay with tty1
[09:00] <snapfractalpop> I know there was some weirdness with arch switching to tty1..
[09:01] <OerHeks> only if you install ubuntu-server tru mini iso, it will start with tty1
[09:02] <OerHeks> so if you *really* want a base system, use ubuntu server, not the mini iso
[09:03] <greyhuh> I'm trying to setup a amd64 xenial install via preseed but it keeps failing cause of missing i386 pacakges. any idea why an amd64 install needs i386 packages?
[09:03] <snapfractalpop> I just use tmux and don't care what tty I'm in
[09:04] <snapfractalpop> amr_: you still patching?
[09:05] <KeyboardNotFound> I have two video cards, how can I select which one to use and how to disable the other one ?
[09:05] <flux242> OerHeks: with mini iso one can select server task to install
[09:06] <flux242> i din't because i do not know what packages it will add
[09:06] <flux242> tasksel doesn't tell me for some reason
[09:07] <snapfractalpop> flux242: I think in tasksel if you select the "additional things" option or whatever it's called, it puts you in aptitude or something like that
[09:07] <snapfractalpop> I remember being able to see what packages were selected before installing
[09:07] <flux242> tasksel --task-packages server
[09:08] <coin3d> hello there. i'm trying to run xorg on ubuntu server 16.04, but it fails all the time with permission errors - e.g. although my user is part of the tty group, it cannot access /dev/tty* and fails therefore with an xf86openconsole error
[09:08] <flux242> it just says: server^
[09:09] <OerHeks> coin3d, how do you run xorg on your server, installed a DE?
[09:09] <coin3d> OerHeks: actually, i only want to run kodi without all the other packages
[09:09] <coin3d> thats why i thought its a good idea to use ubuntu server
[09:10] <snapfractalpop> flux242: what if you check the server from the "gui" and also select manual package selection?
[09:11] <flux242> snapfractalpop: don't know. I won't be reinstalling just to figure out if this is the installed bug or something
[09:11] <flux242> installer bug^
[09:11] <snapfractalpop> flux242: I got the same server^ thing too
[09:11] <OerHeks> there must be a kodi manual somewhere, kodi needs a desktop environment, or at least videodrivers and xinit https://trick77.com/how-to-install-kodi-ubuntu-server-14-04
[09:11] <snapfractalpop> odd behavior
[09:12] <flux242> mini iso selects by default only "standard system utilities". One can select additional tasks but I didn't
[09:12] <coin3d> OerHeks: right, I exactly did whats written in that tutorial, but I suppose something has changed on the permissions with 16.04
[09:13] <flux242> I know how to solve it by reconfiguring grub but this wasn't my question
[09:14] <flux242> i always used mini iso's before and never had this strange behaviour
[09:14] <snapfractalpop> flux242: what I meant was, as a workaround to trying to find what packages are in the server task selection.. it might be possible to run tasksel without any options, and selecting both "server" and "manual package selection" which should then put you in aptitude, from which you may see what server packages it selected.
[09:15] <snapfractalpop> I always liked the mini approach as well..
[09:15] <snapfractalpop> install just what you need, and nothing more
[09:16] <flux242> no, actually you shouldn't select any additional task. You first install bere minimum then you disable recommends in apt and only then you can install dm
[09:17] <flux242> otherwise ubuntu will install all that recommended sht
[09:19] <snapfractalpop> flux242: on the other hand, there are scenarios where I don't mind having a large selection of packages even if some I wont use, as disk space is cheap. as long as they aren't using other system resources, disk usage of packages is negligible these days
[09:19] <snapfractalpop> ubuntustudio is a good example
[09:20] <flux242> it's not about space, it's about dependencies. The less sht you have installed the more robust is your system
[09:20] <snapfractalpop> but for a server.. or vm, or whatever, you want it lean as possible
[09:20] <snapfractalpop> yeah
[09:21] <snapfractalpop> I'm just saying I like that we have all these optinos
[09:21] <snapfractalpop> options*
[09:21] <OerHeks> grinn, flux242 so why don't you install your DE and go on with your life?
[09:21] <flux242> OerHeks: you have problem with that?
[09:21] <juanonymous> how do i configure vpn on unbuntu
[09:21] <juanonymous> and where do i find free vpn?
[09:22] <OerHeks> !openvpn | juanonymous
[09:22] <snapfractalpop> woah.. free vpn? does that exist? would you trust it?
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> snapfractalpop  some people don't trust linux because it's free
[09:23] <Darmoktalk> It's a multistep process, you need to setup openvpn. The only free VPNs I know of are those p2p browser plugin ones
[09:23] <snapfractalpop> MonkeyDust: but you can inspect the code
[09:23] <juanonymous> is it paid?
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> snapfractalpop  true
[09:23] <Darmoktalk> And yea, I wouldn't trust a VPN I'm not paying for
[09:23] <snapfractalpop> MonkeyDust: if I can inspect the vpn servers, that's pretty much defeating the purpose
[09:24] <flux242> MonkeyDust: some people dont' trust ubuntu because its canonical
[09:24] <OerHeks> juanonymous, we don't deal vpn accounts, find your own one
[09:25] <juanonymous> i want to hide my ip to users from skype
[09:25] <juanonymous> by using skype ip resolvers
[09:25] <Ben64> oh it's you again
[09:26] <snapfractalpop> amr_: hope the patching is working out..
[09:26] <snapfractalpop> gotta go afk
[09:26] <snapfractalpop> amr_: if you read this later, you want to probably make config the module, and then run make
[09:27] <snapfractalpop> then put the binaries in the appropriate places and cross your fingers
[09:28] <snapfractalpop> peace
[09:29] <amr_> finished installing build essentials
 finished installing build essentials
 then
 then???????
[09:30] <Ben64> he's gone
[09:33] <OerHeks> as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile is down, https://web.archive.org/web/20160424151125/https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[09:33] <OerHeks> err https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel is down
[09:35] <chronotr> crash unity after change theme gtk, when minimize corebird (ubuntu 16.04)
[09:38] <OerHeks> chronotr, try again from start, if it crashes again, file a bugreport
[09:39] <landon1> is the KDE desktop snappy yet?
[09:39] <OerHeks> chronotr, i see lots of issues in https://github.com/baedert/corebird/issues and there is a #corebird channel here on #freenode too
[09:41] <chronotr> DerHeks, thank you
[09:46]  * iptable googles corebird
[09:46] <iptable> oh
[09:46] <bazhang> !info corebird | iptable
[09:47] <iptable> addiction fix client, got that
[09:47] <Bill_Gates> I got to know /opt folder can be used by all users (including guest), but I think that's read only for guests. How to provide priviledges (rw)??
[09:48] <iptable> Bill_Gates, not a good idea, but chmod 777 /opt will give it all rwx permissions. May I ask why?
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> iptable  you tell him how to do it, then you say not to do it
[09:50] <OerHeks> obvious, because his name is bill gates, MonkeyDust ..
[09:50] <Bill_Gates> Need to provide storage space to anonymous user while using guest!
[09:50] <iptable> MonkeyDust, he asked how, so I answered, and then gave an opinion on what he is trying to achieve.
[09:50] <Bill_Gates> Suggest any other method?
[09:51] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: can the guest use /tmp?
[09:51] <iptable> Bill_Gates, storage space in /opt? What do you mean guest? Basically, is the user using ftp/ssh/other to gain access?
[09:51] <EriC^^> i think it's pretty locked down
[09:52] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: the guest already gets disk space in his home dir in /tmp/guest-something
[09:52] <EriC^^> just tried it
[09:52] <iptable> Bill_Gates, just trying to understand what you are attempting to achieve. For example, using ssh, the user would store data in their /home directory. Using ftp, you can configure storage location, etc.
[09:53] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: it disappears once he logs out and the data is gone
[09:53] <Bill_Gates> ya that's the problem
[09:53] <Guest15501> Jota: hi
[09:53] <Bill_Gates> That's why!
[09:53] <iptable> Bill_Gates, guest user of what? I'm still trying to figure that one out.
[09:54] <EriC^^> iptable: guest account ont he pc
[09:54] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: heh, i even did a touch /tmp/bla from guest and it somehow disappeared after logging out
[09:55] <iptable> Bill_Gates, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession
[09:55] <Bill_Gates> got some chance on /opt.
[09:55] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: i'm trying mkdir /bla && chmod 777 /bla
[09:55] <iptable> Bill_Gates, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession - that is the best end-to-end information on how to do it.
[09:55] <EriC^^> to see how it'll go
[09:55] <OerHeks> make an user guest/ pass guest ?
[09:55] <Bill_Gates> what's 777 for??
[09:56] <iptable> Bill_Gates, all read, all write, all execute
[09:56] <Bill_Gates> even for guest??
[09:56] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 7 = owner user, owner group and all others have full access.
[09:56] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: nope, it can't write, permission denied
[09:57] <Bill_Gates> 777?
[09:57] <iptable> Bill_Gates, do check that link I sent you though, it explains how to do it in details
[09:57] <EriC^^> it's locked down with apparmor i guess
[09:57] <EriC^^> yes
[09:57] <OerHeks> iptable +1
[09:58] <EriC^^> link says to use sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data
[09:58] <iptable> Bill_Gates, it's a binary thing. 7 = 111. So 777 = 111 111 111. It's read, write execute. 1 means yes, and other is: user,group,all. So 111 111 111 = read, write, execute permission for dir owner user, group and all others.
[09:59] <iptable> EriC^^, it also says to great a special guest user for the preferences and user creation triggers apparmor profiles. also /var is a more sane location
[09:59] <EriC^^> yeah i dont think the creation is necessary except for other custom stuff
[09:59] <EriC^^> /var/guest.. seems hard-coded and 777 works with it
[10:00] <iptable> EriC^^, true, just suggesting ;) But yay, that's sorted then ;)
[10:01] <EriC^^> it's working to save in /var/tmp btw
[10:01] <iptable> essentially not in /opt as it's a BadIdea(tm). makes sense
[10:05] <DarkBlueShark> hello
[10:08] <EriC^^> hello
[10:09] <DarkBlueShark> I did apt-get upgrade it doesn't give an error but it says the following packages have been kept back (packages name) in the end. What does it mean?
[10:09] <Bill_Gates> "sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data" This is the key!
[10:09] <ducasse> DarkBlueShark: use apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:10] <baizon> DarkBlueShark: it means, that this packages wont be upgraded. Which ubuntu version are you using?
[10:10] <Bill_Gates> Did you check that? Though I do not have tried it yet!
[10:11] <circ-user-xYocO> hello guys, I have a question that might be a little noob but I couldn't seem to find anything concrete online
[10:12] <DarkBlueShark> I'm on xubuntu
[10:12] <circ-user-xYocO> I'm currently running Ubuntu 15.10, and was wondering if I have both start scripts in /etc/init.d and also systemd, would the process get run twice?
[10:12] <DarkBlueShark> the newest version idk how to check lol sry im new to Linux
[10:12] <circ-user-xYocO> for example, i noticed redis has start scripts in both systemd and init.d
[10:12] <DarkBlueShark> why won't the packages be upgraded?
[10:12] <Bill_Gates> Eric^^ "sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data" This is the key!
[10:12] <circ-user-xYocO> so would redis be started twice?
[10:12] <baizon> DarkBlueShark: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:14] <EriC^^> Bill_Gates: yes, check the link iptable gave for loads of other stuff
[10:15] <Bill_Gates> Eric^^ Btw if you look at point 1,2 for Hooks facilitate customization on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession, that means contents of /etc can be accessed through guest
[10:16] <Bill_Gates> You can use it for persist storage though ! If I got it correct !!
[10:17] <Bill_Gates> Or I think its read only probably!
[10:20] <_kmh_> hi
[10:20] <_kmh_> big channel
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> _kmh_  type   /topic
[10:21] <_kmh_> i'm trying to get lsb-core to work on 16.04
[10:22] <_kmh_> it seems contrary to 14.04 than is not in the normal package list
[10:22] <OerHeks> _kmh_, known issue ( with chrome)
[10:22] <_kmh_> and 16.04 essentially just has lsb-base and lasb-release
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> !info lsb-core trusty
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> !info lsb-core
[10:23] <iptable> Bill_Gates, if guest cannot see /etc, they cannot exist. some important stuff is there, like resolv.conf so their browser knows which nameservers to query
[10:23] <_kmh_> OerHeks, well it is not just affecting but probably pretty any 3rd party installation relying on the lsb package
[10:23] <_kmh_> ubottu,  i'm not that
[10:23] <iptable> Bill_Gates, users normally cannot write to /etc
[10:23] <_kmh_> my question is whether there is any way to get it
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> Bill_Gates  what is your end goal?
[10:24] <iptable> MonkeyDust, make linux into windows!
[10:24] <Bill_Gates> true
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> Bill_Gates  then why don't you use windows?
[10:24] <_kmh_> OerHeks, so do you know any workarounds?
[10:25] <_kmh_> other than going back to 14.04 that is :)
[10:25] <kochi_> nick uKi`
[10:26] <Bill_Gates> I'm troubled with two frequent errors on linux!
[10:27] <OerHeks> _kmh_, download them from debian, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306007&p=13405404#post13405404 but try apt-get install -f first!
[10:27] <iptable> lxb is in xenial
[10:27] <iptable> !info lsb
[10:27] <iptable> hmmm
[10:27] <Bill_Gates> ubuntu, i mean, specifically.
[10:27] <OerHeks> it is dropped somehow
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !info lsb trusty
[10:28] <_kmh_> iptable,  yes but not all of lsb, that's the problem, there's quite a number of lsb packages and while 14.04 did have them they vanished in 16.04 except for two
[10:28] <iptable> so in xenial lsb was deleted as unstable(?)
[10:28] <egsome> Bill_Gates, And the two errors are ?
[10:28] <_kmh_> OerHeks,  ty i'll check that out
[10:29] <iptable> Bill_Gates, what errors?
[10:30] <Bill_Gates> First, there remains some problem with wireless driver, I think. If the system remains quite for a while, the wireless networks are not detected!
[10:30] <Bill_Gates> Enen after several switch off/on s
[10:30] <Bill_Gates> *Eve
[10:30] <Bill_Gates> **Even
[10:31] <iptable> Bill_Gates, so you possibly could have a wireless adapter which doesn't have proper support in linux. Not exactly a linux issue, but your wifi card manufacturer.
[10:31] <iptable> Bill_Gates, second issue?
[10:31] <OerHeks> wonky driver probably, depends on what wifi chip
[10:32] <Alagos> exit
[10:33] <Bill_Gates> No, the networks are yet discovered when actively working but after some situations, the functionality just like hangs up!
[10:33] <Bill_Gates> Like awaking from sleep for a while
[10:34] <OerHeks> Bill_Gates, care to share what wifi device?
[10:34] <OerHeks> lspci -nn -d ::280 # this would show it
[10:36] <Bill_Gates> Lol, now second issue. My mouse pointer gone as I switched between two accounts!
[10:36] <Bill_Gates> Just now!
[10:36] <Bill_Gates> accounts (Ubuntu)
[10:36] <OerHeks> LOL
[10:36] <Bill_Gates> Got a solution??
[10:37] <Bill_Gates> Dis/Enabling the mouse driver may work! Know how to??
[10:37] <Bill_Gates> Mouse (tuchpad)
[10:37] <Bill_Gates> *touchpad
[10:37] <iptable> Bill_Gates, never happened here before. interesting you should have that. can we come back to you sharing your wifi device name with us?
[10:38] <iptable> Bill_Gates, also, you mean the pointer became invisible, or that mouse no longer works?tried logging out of the other account?
[10:38] <iptable> don't go straight into drivers, it's not windows.
[10:38] <_kmh_> OerHeks, what's "apt-get install -f" supposed to do?
[10:38] <Bill_Gates> Yeah, I mean Invisible!
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> _kmh_  -f means fix
[10:39] <_kmh_> MonkeyDust, ok?
[10:40] <Bill_Gates> Cool back now!
[10:40] <iptable> _kmh_, apt-get -f install will try to resolve dependency issues you had when doing dpkg -i to install packages and to finish installing that package
[10:40] <iptable> _kmh_, it's actually pretty sweet
[10:41] <_kmh_> hmm
[10:41] <Bill_Gates> Qualcomm Atheros! And I think its supported!
[10:42] <Ascavasaion> Can someone please tell me what the package name is fore the default games in Ubuntu/Lubuntu.  The minesweeper, solitaire/patience, mahjong, etc.
[10:42] <Bill_Gates> Need complete specs?
[10:42] <Ascavasaion> fore=for
[10:43] <OerHeks> i was afraid to read Qualcomm Atheros .. know for issues
[10:44] <iptable> Bill_Gates, WHICH chipset?
[10:44] <iptable> Bill_Gates, that's like saying you are running a windows. chipset number matters a ot.
[10:44] <iptable> Ascavasaion, you want gnome-games?
[10:45] <Ascavasaion> iptable: Yes please
[10:45] <iptable> Ascavasaion, nono, that's the actual package name
[10:45] <iptable> gnome-games
[10:45] <Ascavasaion> iptable: Thank you :)
[10:45] <OerHeks> gnome-games is optional, not standard installed
[10:47] <iptable> yes, but the "default" games, i.e. the ones that normally come with gnome (which is what the user referred to) is gnome-games package
[10:48] <Ascavasaion> iptable: Correct, I wanted those simple games... much appreciated
[10:49] <iptable> no worries
[10:49] <OerHeks> !info gnome-games-common
[10:49] <OerHeks> hmm
[10:50] <iptable> !info gnome-games
[10:51] <OerHeks> gnome-sudoku & aisleriot & gnome-mines
[10:51] <OerHeks> & gnome-sudoku ofcourse
[10:52] <xangua> And gnome Tetris! ❤
[10:52] <OerHeks> Ascavasaion, you might want to install synaptic, detailed softwarecenter and easy search through games
[10:52] <Bill_Gates> Sorry, I got disconnected. But, 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01)
[10:52] <Ascavasaion> OerHeks: Thank you... much appreciated too.
[10:53] <Bill_Gates> link to the logs for this irc, please?
[10:53] <iptable> Bill_Gates, AR9565 qualcomm is known to have issues. That would be the manufacturer's fault for not doing proper linux support.
[10:54] <OerHeks> !logs
[10:54] <OerHeks> not sure the log is updated this hour
[10:54] <_kmh_> OerHeks, ok seems to have worked out - thanks again
[10:54] <bazhang> top of the hour for updates iirc
[10:54] <OerHeks> _kmh_, have fun!
[10:55] <_kmh_> i don't quite get though why ubuntu has dropped lsb-core and others
[10:56] <OerHeks> debian has dropped it https://lwn.net/Articles/658809/
[10:56] <_kmh_> OerHeks,  ouch that's even worse
[10:57] <Bill_Gates> One more thing I need to disable the tty account for root. How?
[10:57] <Bill_Gates> I created that for some partition mgmt!
[10:58] <OerHeks> there is no root account.
[10:58] <OerHeks> !root
[11:00] <OerHeks> i have no idea how one would disable a service for root.
[11:10] <iptable> DISABLE service for root and all others: find a binary, change permission to non-executable and chattr +i that file to make it immune to change by all including root
[11:10] <iptable> bad idea though
[11:10] <iptable> uninstalling it is easier
[11:11] <iptable> You may set a root password using sudo -i followed by passwd, but that again, is a bad idea
[11:15] <Bill_Gates> uninstall ?
[11:16] <Crackpotmark> you can prevent root tty login by removing the shell entry for root in /etc/shadow yes?
[11:17] <Crackpotmark> or /etc/passwd sorry
[11:21] <somsip> Bill_Gates: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11700690/how-do-i-completely-remove-root-password
[11:22] <somsip> Bill_Gates: the last comment applies
[11:22] <somsip> Bill_Gates: maybe a more applicable answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/20450/disable-root-account-in-ubuntu
[11:28] <Bill_Gates> Thanks!
[11:29] <Steve_Jobs> Hello Bill_Gates
[11:31] <andrey> Hi
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:34] <akik> Crackpotmark: no. read up on /etc/securetty
[11:35] <Bill_Gates> Mode bits to set guest (rwx) priviledges to be enabled ? 0777 doesn't work!
[11:35] <Bill_Gates> just mode bits!
[11:37] <Bill_Gates> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession says "sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data" to provide those but doesn't works !!  Can somebody just verify please ??
[11:43] <Bill_Gates> Or is it 7777??????
[11:43] <Bill_Gates> Or is it 7777   ??????
[11:43] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 0777 is fine
[11:43] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 0777 is 777 in permissions. the 0 is for extra bits we will not go into for this excercise
[11:44] <Bill_Gates> Did you verify though?
[11:44] <Bill_Gates> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession says "sudo mkdir -m 0777 /var/guest-data" to provide those but doesn't works !! Can somebody just verify please ??
[11:44] <Bill_Gates> this!
[11:44] <Bill_Gates> rwx to guest
[11:44] <iptable> Bill_Gates, YES it WORKS
[11:45] <iptable> Bill_Gates, what "doesn't works"?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  yes
[11:45] <iptable> the command will not display anything, like "thank you, I did it". No messages means it worked. ls -l /var will show you guest-data there and rwx on it
[11:46] <iptable> Bill_Gates, ^
[11:46] <iptable> Bill_Gates, and if you originally ran it with wrong permissions, mkdir again on it won't work. you will have to manually chmod 777 /var/guest-data then
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  apt-get and apt-cache have been replaced by 'apt'
[11:48] <iptable> huh? since when?
[11:48] <iptable> who dares make apt a sane system?
[11:49] <rajiv1> MonkeyDust: using which one is better?
[11:49] <Bill_Gates> i know! But I copied a folder from admin login to that and changed permissions on gui (properties) from access files to rwx for that folder but didn't changed for enclosed files!
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  the one you like more, they do the same thing
[11:50] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 1. change permissions using the commands provided, not on GUI, so we know that worked.
[11:50] <iptable> Bill_Gates, 2. To change permissions to existing files, use chmod -R 777 /var/guest-data
[11:51] <rajiv1> MonkeyDust: So apt only can be used to update the system as well?
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  yes
[11:53] <egsome> How to get the latest Unity 8 release on Ubuntu 16.04 ? According to launchpad, seems latest work on Unity 8 still not released to Ubuntu 16.04 repos !
[11:53] <Bill_Gates> I did all the same. Okay see if a folder copied to the guest-data from admin account that would explicitly require to change permissions as the folder is under admin priviledges! Agree ??
[11:54] <rajiv1> MonkeyDust: what is the difference between "synaptic" and "muon" package managers?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> egsome  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-unity-8-desktop-progress-video
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> rajiv1  iirc, muon is for kde
[11:54] <xangua> egsome: you can install unity 8 if you want, but please understand it's not yet ready for daily use or even usable
[11:55] <egsome> xangua, I did install it, but seems a very buggy version, when talked to people at launchpad, they told version available in 16.04 repos is old and not updated.
[11:55] <egsome> xangua, I accept it is being not stable, just want to test it out and report bugs.
[11:55] <egsome> MonkeyDust, Going to check that.
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> egsome  what xangua says: try it at your own risk, it's not supported here
[11:56] <egsome> MonkeyDust, Going to try ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay
[11:57] <Bill_Gates> Lol now, see what the tragedy is if you create a folder from admin side that's unpriviledged for guest and even vice versa is true. Just try it !
[11:59] <todd__> hello
[12:05] <Bill_Gates> Just one thing ! If you can tell, chmod 0777 does'nt applies to all enclosed files. How ti achieve that ??
[12:05] <Bill_Gates> *to
[12:09] <Bill_Gates> iptable : Just one thing ! If you can tell, chmod 0777 does'nt applies to all enclosed files. How ti achieve that ??
[12:10] <iptable> Bill_Gates, as stated before. chmod -R 777
[12:10] <iptable> Bill_Gates, the -R makes a difference. -R = recursive. I have already said that at 12.50.31 UK time
[12:13] <geirha> The dir should be set to 1777, not 777
[12:15] <Bill_Gates> why?
[12:15] <Bill_Gates> btw thanks iptable
[12:15] <geirha> With 777 everyone can remove/overwrite everyone else's files. With 1777, only the owner can modify/remove a file after it's created
[12:16] <iptable> geirha, I think with guest-user the idea is that everyone can.
[12:16] <geirha> that everyone can create files, yes. They can that with 1777
[12:17] <iptable> and delete files
[12:17] <iptable> well, it's up to Bill_Gates
[12:18] <iptable> need to go do some work. later yall
[12:18] <Bill_Gates> Just one more thing, if you can tell, i used dosbox for a dos app on guest and and need to access that folder on that
[12:19] <Bill_Gates> guest-data
[12:19] <Bill_Gates> folder
[12:19] <sveinse> lsblk seems to be unable to read a ext4 label and uuid for primary partition 2 on a USB device, yet dumpe2fs clearly shows both label and UUID for it
[12:19] <Bill_Gates> help just to mount it on that folder !
[12:20] <sveinse> The /etc/fstab on this system thus contains /dev/sda*, which is dangerous on this machine, as new drives will be added
[12:22] <ryneke> can somebody help me with storing a public pgp key in seahorse?
[12:22] <ryneke> i tried importing the .asc file, but when i click import nothing happens...
[12:22] <ducasse> sveinse: can't you use /dev/disk/by-id/whatever-part2 ?
[12:23] <gregf_> hello
[12:23] <EriC^^> hello
[12:24] <gregf_> im running ghostscript on my machine(14.04 LTS) - i've managed to tune gs on my machine
[12:24] <gregf_> we've got an ec instance that uses 12.10 - ghostscript version 9.6. the former runs in 30 seconds(file conversion that is) but the latter takes 10 minutes
[12:26] <sveinse> ducasse: Apparently not. Only the first ext4 partition is shown
[12:26] <Bill_Gates> Can anyone help with dosbox  ??
[12:26] <sveinse> ducasse: And this was the output from the ubuntu 16.04 server installer
[12:27] <ducasse> sveinse: then i suppose the partition table might be screwed up. gpt or mbr?
[12:29] <sveinse> ducasse, dos, not gpt.
[12:31] <ducasse> sveinse: try to run fixparts on the disk, but read the man page first if you're not familiar with it.
[12:33] <sveinse> ducasse: Well, if the parttable is faulty, it might indicate a bug in the 16.04 installer.  The system works with it, except that the 16.04 installer has chosen to use /dev/sd* names on that particular partition. The other partition is ok
[12:34] <Bill_Gates> a simple question how to create links to folders anywhere?
[12:35] <EriC^^> links ln -s /source /link/to/source
[12:35] <hateball> Bill_Gates: ln -s target linkname
[12:36] <sveinse> ducasse: I'm redoing the ubuntu installer once more (third time) with another media
[12:36] <ducasse> sveinse: also check the disk, just to be safe.
[12:37] <sveinse> ducasse: I am using another disk
[12:37] <ducasse> sveinse: ok :)
[12:42] <juanonymous> is it possible that a user with different router could have same ip address?
[12:43] <dark_witcher> hey guys quick question
[12:43] <dark_witcher> running ubuntu mate 16.04
[12:44] <juanonymous> users*
[12:44] <dark_witcher> i want to remove transmission and pidgin but I get that another app will be removed (ubuntu-mate-desktop)
[12:44] <EriC^^> dark_witcher: just leave them
[12:44] <dark_witcher> what is that and should removing it break the system
[12:45] <EriC^^> maybe
[12:51] <blaze24> hi all
[12:53] <EriC^^> hi
[12:54] <blaze24> annyone to give me a little help?
[12:54] <SwedeMike> blaze24: we don't know, you haven't asked any question yet.
[12:55] <blaze24> it's about ubuntu mate 15.10... i first used on usb and sda1... worked perfectlly, but after upgrading to 16.04 i'm having problems
[12:55] <dchapman> dark_witcher: Doesn't compute. MATE is a desktop environment. Transmission is a torrenting application, and pidgin is a communication app. Neither have anything to do with Mate. What command are you using to remove them?
[12:56] <blaze24> what to remove?
[12:56] <ducasse> dark_witcher: it's just a meta-package, doesn't hurt to remove it.
[12:56] <blaze24> i'm having problems with the nvidia driver preinstalled
[12:56] <dark_witcher> dchapman I'm removing it from the app store
[12:57] <blaze24> i think
[12:57] <dark_witcher> ducasse that is what I taught, but I wanted to be sure
[12:57]  * uKi` sunyiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:58] <blaze24> i know that i could get some answers on google... but i hope someone is going to help me here
[13:01] <Dave666> Has anyone here installed Ubuntu to dual boot with OSX? Wondered how difficult it is to set up. I need to use Linux for Eclipse development only, so only a small partition
[13:01] <EriC^^> i've seen it done
[13:02] <EriC^^> with refind it's easy, without it it's a little more involved,
[13:03] <egsome> Dave666, Interested to know, but didn't try it before. And, I think VirtualBox can be an option if just need it for Eclipse.
[13:03] <Dave666> I was looking for someone who's done it, to check on the risks. Don't really want to lose my OSX install as I have loads of stuff installed.
[13:03] <coin3d> can anyone tell me why its no longer possible to run startx as user?
[13:04] <coin3d> with ubuntu 16.04 i mean
[13:04] <SwedeMike> Dave666: why not just run ubuntu virtualised under OSX? Use virtualbox or something?
[13:04] <Dave666> egsome: Yeah, I've considered virtualbox.  Didn't try to run it.
[13:07] <coin3d> egsome: it fails with some permission errors - i first thought it is ubuntu related, but seems like the default behaviour for running xorg without root rights or something like that has changed
[13:07] <egsome> coin3d, What error message do You get  ?
[13:07] <coin3d> egsome: (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 2 (Permission denied)
[13:08] <EriC^^> coin3d: it works here
[13:08] <EriC^^> try DISPLAY=:1 startx unity
[13:09] <egsome> coin3d, According to https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=192329, seems reinstalling xorg solved the problem.
[13:12] <coin3d> EriC^^: same error message :(
[13:13] <Aliekezhi-> hi, I'm about to install ubuntu on an Apple Macbook, do I need to do something special ? It's a 64 bits intel CPU, should I use the default ubuntu 64 bits installation ?
[13:14] <EriC^^> !mac | Aliekezhi-
[13:17] <Aliekezhi-> EriC^^, sadly these pages doesn't cover my model, and those for close models are outdated for old ubuntu versions
[13:20] <juanonymous> is there any way to see the true users ip even if he is using a proxy?
[13:20] <rilleh> If you got access to the proxy :)
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> juanonymous  what would be the use of the proxy, then?
[13:21] <vishesh> I've this problem in Unity session,  all custom shortcuts take a lot of time to fire up like a minute.  Probably related, when I start google-chrome from terminal it takes a minute or two to start up as well. Evreything starts in a second in i3-wm session though
[13:22] <juanonymous> because i used proxy to cover my skype but the skype resolver still shows my original ip
[13:22] <vishesh> I've this problem in Unity session,  all custom shortcuts take a lot of time to fire up like a minute.  Probably related, when I start google-chrome from terminal it takes a minute or two to start up as well. Evreything starts in a second in i3-wm session though. Any ideas?
[13:24] <truncate> I've this problem with Unity session. All custom shortcuts take over a minute to fire up. Probably, google-chrome takes like over a minute to start up too. Everything works perfect in i3-wm session though. (Sorry if this message showed up multiple times.)
[13:32] <coin3d> EriC^^: this was how i solved it now: https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/3nz0vz/psa_x_server_is_now_running_as_regular_user/cvsyvny
[13:33] <naghizadeh>  I am trying to install trinityrnaseq, but I see this error. what should I do now?
[13:33] <ooooo> Welcome to #ubuntu !
[13:33] <naghizadeh> mehdi@home-srv:~$ cd "/media/mehdi/New Volume1/trinity/trinityrnaseq-2.2.0 "bash: cd: /media/mehdi/New Volume1/trinity/trinityrnaseq-2.2.0 : No such file or directory
[13:33] <naghizadeh> mehdi@home-srv:~$ cd "/media/mehdi/New Volume1/trinity/trinityrnaseq-2.2.0"
[13:33] <naghizadeh> mehdi@home-srv:/media/mehdi/New Volume1/trinity/trinityrnaseq-2.2.0$ make
[13:33] <naghizadeh> Using gnu compiler for Inchworm and Chrysalis
[13:33] <naghizadeh> cd Inchworm && (test -e configure || autoreconf) \
[13:33] <naghizadeh>                 && sh ./configure --prefix=`pwd`  && make install
[13:34] <ooooo> Dide someone know a good alternative to Wine  ?  I'm looking for better version of Skype , atm on 4.3, and have so much connnexions troubles ! thanks for counsel
[13:35] <rahul_kummi> hello
[13:35] <rahul_kummi> just trying out the irc
[13:35] <naghizadeh> Hi
[13:35] <uKi`> :D
[13:35] <ooooo> C C C C C C COMBO BREAKER
[13:36] <ooooo> M M M  M M M M-MONSTER KILL
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> ooooo  stop
[13:37] <ooooo> MonkeyDust why ?  Yeah compo, but a vm is not also usefull than a simulate like Wine ))
[13:39] <ooooo> I'll try another way, thanks for help ;)
[13:45] <DocMAX> hi, is there something like "testing" in ubuntu?
[13:45] <DocMAX> to be up to date
[13:46] <th34lch3m1st> hi, dual boot uefi, w10 starts with no choise, but if I chose boot option at startup I can run ubuntu and see start menu options (included windows start). is there a chance to start ubuntu menu at start up?
[13:46] <DocMAX> to enter in the sources.list
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> DocMAX  sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[13:46] <DocMAX> yes
[13:46] <DocMAX> i mean the sources.list
[13:46] <hugo> Guys, i'm using Openbabel, but when I run it, I get a Segmentation fault error. Any fixes?
[13:47] <DocMAX> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main restricted
[13:47] <th34lch3m1st> manual partitioning, i have chose bootloader on sda (disk, no partition)
[13:47] <DocMAX> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu testing main restricted <-- someting like this
[13:47] <ducasse> DocMAX: no, there's no such thing.
[13:47] <OerHeks> proposed, but you don't want that
[13:47] <DocMAX> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel main restricted <-- but this works?
[13:47] <Mikelevel> DocMAX~ devel
[13:48] <DocMAX> but devel is like unstable in debian right?
[13:48] <Mikelevel> yes
[13:48] <DocMAX> i need "testing"
[13:48] <Mikelevel> now its yakkety
[13:49] <ducasse> DocMAX: ubuntu is based on unstable, so there is nothing similar to testing. unless you go for the development release.
[13:49] <Mikelevel> yakkety is 16.10 version .... development branck
[13:49] <Mikelevel> branch
[13:49] <Mikelevel> its like testing/unstable
[13:54] <Bill_Gates> Hey, I created a script file but that fails to run and creates a swap file. Please help
[13:55] <OerHeks> if it fails to run, how does it create a swap?
[13:55] <DocMAX> hey Bill_Gates.. u here in irc?
[13:55] <OerHeks> yeeah, favorite troll DocMAX
[13:55] <DocMAX> what r u doing here?
[13:55] <NP_> hi Dr.Naghizadeh
[13:56] <DocMAX> OerHeks, nice to meet you too
[13:58] <Bill_Gates> The commands embedded in it automatically run on vim !! And btw why swp is created
[13:58] <Bill_Gates> ??
[14:00] <NP_>  سلام
 سییب
 سشیب
 بیبیس
 سیببیس
 سیببسی
[14:00] <OerHeks> eh yes, Bill_Gates, YOU created a script, now asking us why it does what it does. don't show us the script on a pastebin, let us guess?
[14:01] <Bill_Gates> Wait, I'm new to it. Can you just tell me if I need to define the path too for exec those commands
[14:01] <Bill_Gates> path even for default one, I mean?
[14:02] <Bill_Gates> that occurs when terminal run ??
[14:02] <computer> people, if i have an app that works in ubuntu, can it also work in debian?
[14:03] <OerHeks> computer, sure, like chrome or skype
[14:03] <computer> OerHeks: excellent thanks
[14:05] <kunifa> hello. as of version 1.1.90 network manager can use random MAC addresses for Wi-Fi access point scanning
[14:05] <kunifa> where's this option in ubuntu?
[14:05] <kunifa> it uses network manager 1.1.93
[14:05] <huwjr> anyone having issues with DKIM on xenial?
[14:05] <huwjr> pretty lost atm
[14:06] <huwjr> getting.. opendkim.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=64 Failed to start DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Milter.
[14:07] <thebwt> kunifa: the GUI may not be caught up, are you trying with nmcli ?
[14:09] <kunifa> thebwt, i was trying with the gui. i see that one can set MAC_ADDRESS_RANDOMIZATION key in ifcfg files. but where are these files and how to set the key properly? there's a lack of documentation...
[14:11] <thebwt> I agree, I'm looking it up now but not coming up with much
[14:12] <OerHeks> kunifa, this one asked the same, i never heard 16.04 can do that, not seeing it too http://askubuntu.com/questions/771204/systemd-mac-address-randomisazion
[14:12] <OerHeks> maybe that question IS from you?
[14:13] <m4vo> can any1 tell me how to turn off hibernate on ubuntu?
[14:14] <kunifa> no, the question is not from me. in the release information of network manager there's info about this option. but unfortunatly no info about how to use it. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2016-January/msg00026.html
[14:14] <kunifa> and afaik network manager is independent from systemd
[14:15] <kunifa> so this is supposed to be configured in the network manager config itself...
[14:17] <ash_workz> is there a good channel to get help using Meld?
[14:21] <farblue> Hi all :) Can someone possibly tell me the syntax for using a CIDR rather than a netmask in /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:23] <TJ-> farblue: see "man interfaces" ... e.g. "address <IP_ADDRESS>/31"
[14:25] <farblue> TJ-: Thanks - I was looking at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man5/interfaces.5.html but it doesn’t provide an example. So do you provide the address and cidr range on the address line or can you supply the address on the address line and a cidr on the netmask line?
[14:25] <DocMAX> help!
[14:25] <TJ-> farblue: maybe it changed since 12.04 and the 16.04 man-page there would show it?
[14:26] <farblue> yes, found it now :) Google didn’t find it though
[14:26] <DocMAX> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/systemd_229-6ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[14:26] <DocMAX>  trying to overwrite '/etc/systemd/logind.conf', which is also in package systemd-services 204-5ubuntu20.19
[14:26] <DocMAX> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[14:26] <DocMAX> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:26] <TJ-> farblue: man is always your best friend :D
[14:26] <DocMAX> help!
[14:26] <TJ-> (says the Huskies)
[14:26] <farblue> TJ-: heh, thanks :)
[14:26] <dsantos> Hey friends. I just installed ubuntu by myself. I created a 500 GB partition in order to store the ubuntu and its data. However, something went wrong during the installation and the ubuntu created a 13 GB partition which is full now. You can check the status of this situation at http://termbin.com/j7hg and http://termbin.com/maau
[14:27] <dsantos> How can I merge or transfer my ubuntu data into the 500 GB partition?
[14:27] <TJ-> DocMAX: looks like you're mixed releases there, going by the vasrtly different systemd versions
[14:27] <dsantos> Thanks
[14:27] <DocMAX> TJ-, what to do?
[14:27] <DocMAX> i try to update 14.04 > 16.04
[14:28] <TJ-> DocMAX: did you use "do-release-upgrade" ?
[14:28] <DocMAX> no
[14:28] <DocMAX> just apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:28] <TJ-> DocMAX: so you changed the entries in apt's sources.list to xenial?
[14:29] <DocMAX> yes
[14:29] <DocMAX> no to y.....
[14:29] <DocMAX> can pronounce the name
[14:29] <TJ-> to 16.10 yakkety ?
[14:29] <TJ-> 16.04 is xenial, the current release and LTS
[14:30] <DocMAX> do-release-upgrade doesnt find new release
[14:30] <DocMAX> i recovered to 14.04
[14:32] <DocMAX> ah do-release-upgrade -d works
[14:32] <TJ-> DocMAX: for 14.04>16.04, you need to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change to "Prompt=normal" - lts upgrades are only available once 16.04.01 is released in July
[14:32] <TJ-> DocMAX: or "-d", yes
[14:32] <Bill_Gates> Hey provide command to export path ??
[14:33] <DocMAX> 16.04 seems to be released
[14:34] <DocMAX> 21. April 2016
[14:34] <nicomachus> DocMAX: it is. but the LTS isn't released until july 21
[14:34] <akis> hi all. i just install 16.04 and although i hold the current kernel (http://paste.ubuntu.com/16461121/) when i am trying to update the system i take the answer that new kernel will be installed (http://paste.ubuntu.com/16461161/). Any idea what is happening and how will i hold the current kernel as i tried to do already?
[14:35] <TJ-> DocMAX: we don't enable upgrades from LTS to LTS until the point 1 release, so as to let bugs be ironed out
[14:35] <DocMAX> we? r u from ubuntu?
[14:35] <dsantos> Nobody here to help me?
[14:35] <nicomachus> ubuntu is a community. we are all ubuntu. you, me, he, she, we
[14:36] <DocMAX> and it
[14:36] <Bill_Gates> ubuntu is my neigbhour's name!
[14:36] <Bill_Gates> My real name is Windows!
[14:36] <minimec> akis: There is a kernel update from version .21 to version .22, but it is still kernel 4.4.0. So you will keep the same kernel, but a newer less nuggier version...
[14:37] <\9> dsantos: fire up the live session again and use gparted to resize the partitions to appropriate sizes
[14:37] <\9> dsantos: note: be very careful when dealing with gparted
[14:37] <minimec> akis: less biggier... ;)
[14:37] <nicomachus> buggier**
[14:38] <dsantos> sorry, but what is live session \9? I am a linux illiterate
[14:38] <Bill_Gates> I got a little script.
[14:38] <minimec> nicomachus: damn ... ;)
[14:38] <\9> dsantos: the session you used to install ubuntu in the first place. cd, usb drive, etc
[14:38] <Bill_Gates> To exec I exported path
[14:38] <akis> minimec: ok, thank you for your reply, i saw already this. why although i choose hold kernel the system tries to update it?
[14:38] <Bill_Gates> But that still runs through vim
[14:39] <tgm4883> akis: how did you hold it?
[14:39] <DocMAX> hey bill, how much money you got?
[14:39] <\9> dsantos: it needs to be done there because gparted cannot edit the partition table of the running system, so you need to run the system off something else
[14:39] <Bill_Gates> Though it runs when I am in that directory!
[14:39] <dsantos> \9 can you guide me through this process? I can come back later here. I dont want to destroy my laptop. I know that this is sensible case
[14:39] <akis> tgm4883: using this command: echo linux-image-amd64 hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[14:39] <Bill_Gates> Anyone gotta solution?
[14:40] <\9> dsantos: well, you can use hexchat from the live session and dial back here
[14:40] <minimec> akis: If you don't want the kernel to update, you have to remove the linux-image 'general' package. I do nowever NOT recommend that. There has to be some reason, that they updated the kernel.
[14:40] <DocMAX> hey bill, how much money you got?
[14:40] <Bill_Gates> I used "export PATH=$PATH:directory"
[14:40] <nicomachus> Bill_Gates: can you put it all into one line, please?
[14:40] <nicomachus> DocMAX: keep it on topic please.
[14:40] <dsantos> OK, I will be back in some minutes, maybe with other name
[14:41] <tgm4883> akis: it's doing exactly what you told it to. It's not updating the kernel
[14:41] <tgm4883> minimec: no you don't, he did it correctly. It's not updating the kernel
[14:41] <Bill_Gates> nicomachus : Is "export PATH=$PATH:directory" correct?
[14:41] <tgm4883> however, the kernel headers are a different story...
[14:41] <Bill_Gates> to export path!
[14:42] <jwitko> Hi All, I have an ubuntu 14.04 series of systems that crashing intermittently.  They have existed for a while and just started crashing recently, all system logs and monitoring we have stops cold about an hour before we start to see signs of unresponsiveness.  dmesg shows nothing unordinary, atop logs are empty, syslog and kern.log just stop seemingly as if nothing happened.  Can anyone help
[14:42] <jwitko> me figure out how to investigate this further?
[14:42] <tgm4883> akis: I would agree though, why are you trying to hold the kernel?
[14:42] <akis> minimec: the reason i don't want to update the kernel is because i see that the current one is pretty stable with my wireless adapter and i dont want to risk with any future updates
[14:42] <nicomachus> jwitko: what changes were made right before that started? Any chance of hardware failures?
[14:43] <akis> tgm4883: look @my answer above
[14:43] <minimec> akis: As long as you stay with 4.4.0, that shouldn't happen.
[14:43] <tgm4883> akis: I would argue that rolling back to a previous kernel is super simple
[14:43] <tgm4883> akis: eg. just selecting the older kernel during boot
[14:43] <minimec> tgm4883: I don't agree with you.
[14:44] <tgm4883> minimec: with what?
[14:44] <jwitko> nicomachus: Thanks for the response.  The servers run a service that manages lxc containers through virsh.  There havent been any major system updates or changes that I can quickly or easily identify as being responsible here.  It is possible its hardware, they all run on SuperMicro hardware albiet different versions of that hardware.  However typically I'll see messages or signs in dmesg or
[14:44] <jwitko> syslog alluding to hardware issues.  Currently there is nothing before or after reboot.
[14:44] <akis> tgm4883: i know this procedure, thanks for reminding it.
[14:44] <jwitko> nicomachus:  Also I have logging of system resources but it all stops 1hr before we noticed and system rebooted manually .  resources show no signs of increased utilization
[14:44] <minimec> tgm4883: removing the 'generic' package will stop kernel updates, and his system is updating the kernel vrom subversion .21 to .22 ...
[14:45] <akis> minimec: so you think that no update beyond 4.4.0 will be take place?
[14:45] <tgm4883> minimec: I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. Check his output again, it's not updating the kernel, it's updating the kernel headers (which he hasn't held back)
[14:45] <OerHeks> export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/the/directory not just directory. but hey, Bill_Gates, please DON'T share your script, let us guess !
[14:45] <akis> minimec: only subversion updates will take place?
[14:45] <ubuntu-mate> Hey \9 it is me, dsantos. I am running ubuntu via USB now. I opened the Gparted. What can I do now?
[14:46] <minimec> akis: Exactly. You can however try newer kernels, once 16.10 is released. There will be a different LTS-generic kenrel package that allows to upgrade the kernel to a higher version.
[14:46] <TJ-> akis: you could just remove the master package that causes the updates. either linux-image-generic and linxu-headers-generic or linux-image-lowlatency and linux-headers-lowlatency
[14:46] <tgm4883> minimec: you are right though, removing the metapackage would stop the kernel from being updated, just as holding it would do
[14:47] <tgm4883> TJ-: He's already held the packages, that's not needed
[14:47] <OerHeks> akis, wrong approach, no-one can tell if a new kernel breaks your wifi, nor those 'advises' to wait for 16.10
[14:47] <TJ-> tgm4883: as an alternative to holds
[14:48] <akis> OerHerks: i understand that, so i prefer to hold the current one
[14:48] <tgm4883> TJ-: which he's already done, and is confused about the output of apt (which I'm starting to wonder if anyone actually LOOKED at the output)
[14:48] <TJ-> akis: are you building an external driver for the wifi?
[14:49] <minimec> tgm4883: I see now. Yet I recommend that he frees the kernel again for further updates. He was expecting kernel upgrade to happen, not only kernel updates. As this will not happen, I recommended to do the kernel updates.
[14:49] <OerHeks> akis, oke, so your orig. question is: how to pin the current kernel?
[14:49] <OerHeks> !pinning
[14:49] <akis> TJ: no, built in driver only for my RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[14:50] <minimec> akis: Yes. Only subversion updates, like bug fixing...
[14:50] <tgm4883> minimec: Yes, he should do updates
[14:50] <tgm4883> OerHeks: he's already holding the packages ......
[14:51] <OerHeks> tgm4883, but he stated he sees a new kernel by updates..
[14:51] <tgm4883> OerHeks: he's wrong. He sees kernel header updates