[12:04] <seth> Riddell, any idea why for the past week, every time I boot up, kded crashes about 50-60 times?
[10:58] <nlindblad> is the page down?
[10:58] <nlindblad> (the Ubuntu one)
[11:10] <kkathman> is anyone here using Quanta to edit docbook xml files and bind them to the xslt using the xsldbg tool thats embedded?
[05:45] <Tonio_> hello everyone
[07:41] <mrec_> hi, anyone awake?
[07:43] <mrec_> wonder if anyone of you guys could add: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Em2880
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> hey
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i got an idea on something to add
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/Mount-ISO-image-2216.shtml
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> ^ mount iso image 0.9.1
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i have no clue how to make a package of it
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but its very handy
[09:16] <RJ_Not_Ajay> when anyone bothers to read this, just remember i have no freaking clue how to develop under linux
[09:19] <Tm_T> err, you can mount iso image with normal mount
[09:19] <Tm_T> you don't need any extra tool for it
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i know
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but this is a graphical tool
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> and besides
[09:22] <Tm_T> sounds' bad
[09:22] <Tm_T> -'
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i dont remember the exact command to moutn an image
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> hey
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i could make a simpler one
[09:22] <Tm_T> RJ_Not_Ajay: man mount ;)
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i know
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but try telling a n00b how to mount an iso
[09:23] <Tm_T> RJ_Not_Ajay: tell him to read manual, or tell the line what is in manual
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i just think its more important to make graphical tools for this kind of stuff
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> come on
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> this is kubuntu
[09:23] <Tm_T> because _reading manual_ IS important
[09:23] <Tm_T> I know
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> if it was gentoo or slackware
[09:23] <mornfall> what?
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i would do that
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but kubuntu is SUPPOSED TO BE EASY
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> and even though i aggree with you
[09:24] <Tm_T> yes, but not to consider users as idiots
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i think it is in the best insterest of this distro to put a tool like this in
[09:24] <Tm_T> like gnome does
[09:24] <Tm_T> RJ_Not_Ajay: maybe
[09:24] <mornfall> or no
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i suggest you try it
[09:24] <Tm_T> hehe
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> and consider it
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> thats all
[09:24] <Tm_T> aye, considering
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> well
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i say consider
[09:25] <Tm_T> but I'd say maybe no
[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but i mean:
[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> do it
[09:25] <Tm_T> haha
[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> well... maybe if i changed my nickname to Red_Herring...
[09:25] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: i don't find it very useful, it needs sudo
[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but i dont feel like going all the way up to my room
[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> mornfall, you can make it so it uses kdesu
[09:26] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: no that's not the problem
[09:26] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: the problem is that the user needs root
[09:26] <RJ_Not_Ajay> so?
[09:26] <RJ_Not_Ajay> if they were to use mount
[09:26] <RJ_Not_Ajay> they would have the same problem
[09:26] <Tm_T> hmm, no
[09:26] <RJ_Not_Ajay> what?
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> no, mount needs to be ran as root, right?
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> whatever
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i got to go
[09:27] <mornfall> Tm_T: yes they would, you don't generally have fstab entries for random iso files :)
[09:27] <Tm_T> mornfall: true =)
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but i SEROUSLY suggest you use ANYTHING LIKE THIS to mount isos
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> that doesnt require the terminal
[09:27] <Tm_T> uh oh
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i could even write one myself
[09:28] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but i think one of you would be best at it
[09:28] <mornfall> that's probably because 95% of users daily mount isos
[09:28] <RJ_Not_Ajay> well...
[09:28] <RJ_Not_Ajay> bit torrent works best under linux
[09:28] <RJ_Not_Ajay> thats all i have to say
[09:28] <Tm_T> what isos have anything to do with bittorrent?
[09:28] <mornfall> Tm_T: downloading gamez? :-)
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> (most games are in .iso formats)
[09:29] <mornfall> lol
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> not that i download them
[09:29] <Tm_T> mornfall: don't talk about warez to me
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but the thing is
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> if 5% of kubuntu users mount isos
[09:29] <Tm_T> the thing is, we don't need support warez
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> we owe to to them to at least give them the option to mount it w/ konqueror
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> so?
[09:29] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: *owe*? what have you been smoking lately?
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i made an iso of a futurama dvd i bought
[09:30] <Tm_T> so, I don't care if someones warez work or not
[09:30] <Tm_T> better not
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> you guys want n00bs to use kubuntu, right?
[09:30] <Tm_T> they do use
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> yeah
[09:30] <mornfall> i generally don't care
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> you think they know how to mount an iso?
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> come on
[09:30] <Tm_T> and noone has complained about "can't mount iso"
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> sure
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> look in the forums
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> theres at least 10
[09:31] <RJ_Not_Ajay> threads
[09:31] <RJ_Not_Ajay> about it
[09:31] <RJ_Not_Ajay> to me thats important
[09:31] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: so do something about it
[09:31] <mornfall> ah ah
[09:31] <mornfall> i said "do" not "talk and then disappear
[09:31] <mornfall> "
[09:31] <Tm_T> haha
[09:35] <mornfall> f-r-e-a-k
[09:35] <Tm_T> I have 0-tolerance to pro-warez
[09:36] <Tm_T> if you don't wanna buy, you don't ask support
[09:43] <luka74> I would like to make dapper to configure laptop keys out-of-box as it it already true for ubuntu (gnome)
[09:44] <luka74> I do not understand where is the right location to configure global keys for kde - currently I use xmodmap workaround
[09:45] <luka74> Is there any better way (or better: how is this done for gnome)?


[01:03] <akiva-thinkpad> ello all
[01:07] <ahoneybun> hey akiva-thinkpad
[01:08] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun: o/
[01:08] <akiva-thinkpad> what you working on these days?
[01:10] <ahoneybun> nothing atm
[01:10] <ahoneybun> well getting a talk ready for next month
[01:10] <ahoneybun> and my trip to spain
[01:10] <ahoneybun> :)
[01:10] <ahoneybun> akiva-thinkpad: http://usefoss.com/index.php/2015/07/19/my-first-ubuntu-hour/
[01:12] <akiva-thinkpad> doughnuts!
[01:12] <akiva-thinkpad> this sounds awesome
[01:13] <ahoneybun> yes!
[01:14] <akiva-thinkpad> i gave my first talk a few months back at my local lug, it went down great
[01:14] <akiva-thinkpad> what will your talk be on?
[01:14] <ahoneybun> sometime in aug
[01:15] <ahoneybun> oh
[01:15] <ahoneybun> Ubuntu Touch
[01:15] <akiva-thinkpad> sweet
[01:15] <akiva-thinkpad> if you record it, post it on youtube
[01:15] <ahoneybun> I have not seen a single talk recored at thsee meetings
[01:17] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun: record it on your phone :P
[01:17] <ahoneybun> I don't like my voice lol
[01:18] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun: heh, I was in that boat for awhile.
[01:18] <akiva-thinkpad> I find when I talk to groups, my voice deepens, but when I talk to individuals, it rises
[01:18] <akiva-thinkpad> weird
[01:19] <ahoneybun> yea
[01:20] <ahoneybun> going to get something together for Global Jam
[01:23] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun: whats going on with the global jam?
[01:23] <ahoneybun> do you know about the Global Jam?
[01:23] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun: not really
[01:24] <ahoneybun> akiva-thinkpad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[01:24] <akiva-thinkpad> tldr?
[01:24] <akiva-thinkpad> nvm hmmmm should maybe make an event
[01:25] <ahoneybun> I'm thinking of doing a Bug Triage
[01:25] <ahoneybun> but with LibreOffice
[09:52] <kbroulik> when trying to connect to the emulator using 15.04 sdk it times out with an error https://paste.kde.org/pjrfgorvz any idea?
[14:50] <popey>   /131
[14:50] <popey> bah
[14:50] <faenil> popey: irssi fail?
[14:51] <popey> keyboard fail
[14:51] <faenil> happens to the best :)
[14:51] <didrocks> … and to popey ;)
[14:51] <popey> haha
[14:51]  * didrocks hugs popey
[14:51]  * popey hugs didrocks
[14:52]  * faenil forever alone
[14:52] <ahoneybun> hey popey and all
[14:53] <popey> yo yo yo
[14:54] <ahoneybun> 4 more days
[14:55] <popey> until?
[14:55] <ahoneybun> Akademy!
[14:57] <popey> ahhh
[14:57] <tathhu> yololo
[15:04] <balloons> ahoneybun, wahoo! have fun!
[15:04] <ahoneybun> thanks balloons
[15:19] <tim`> is there a way to force the MX4 to stay in A17 mode?
[15:19] <tim`> idk if i am running on big or little
[15:19] <tim`> :{
[15:19] <ogra_> why would you care ?
[15:19] <tim`> want to benchmark performance
[15:19] <ogra_> (and no, there isnt, thats managed on a very low level)
[15:20] <ogra_> (there is some android binary inside the container that manages it)
[15:21] <tim`> my meaurements had it running slower than an Odroid XU and XU3
[15:21] <ogra_> thats a good thing :)
[15:21] <tim`> on http://stats.gnuradio.org
[15:21] <tim`> well -- its good if you like doing slow signal processing
[15:22] <ogra_> you only want it to scale up if there is a request from the system to scale up ... i.e. if a UI app requests more power
[15:22] <tim`> so -- basically, i want to request more power
[15:22] <tim`> while running the benchmark
[15:22] <ogra_> just start a kernel compile in parallel ?
[15:22] <ogra_> :)
[15:22] <SturmFlut> tim`: This is a MediaTek chip, not an Exynos, and it is not actively cooled. Why should it be faster than an Odroid?
[15:23] <tim`> SturmFlut: no reason, i just assumed it might be
[15:23] <tim`> A17 > A15 ?
[15:23] <tim`> lol
[15:23] <SturmFlut> tim`: Without cooling? Unlikely.
[15:24] <tim`> ok, well - just asking the question
[15:24] <tim`> to make sure i am getting fair results
[15:25] <SturmFlut> tim`: The MX4 has to throttle back quite soon, the Odroids don't. Also there's not much of a performance difference between the A15 and A17. So the MX4 has to be slower.
[15:26] <tim`> it's clocked a little bit lower
[15:26] <ogra_> tim`, also, the guys working on the android layer of the mx4 are all in china and rarely seen on IRC ... if you want details about the device and the android layer i supposed a mail to the ML is better to get answers
[15:27] <ogra_> (you can look for alextu in #ubuntu-touch but due to the TZ difference he is hard to catch)
[15:32] <tim`> hrmm cool thx
[17:14] <DF_> how do i do it for webapps so that they dont open browser when you click on the link??
[17:21] <DF_> some one here??
[17:26] <nemo> I'm here, but no idea.
[17:27] <DF_> ok ty nemo
[17:31] <balloons> DF_, use the template
[17:32] <balloons> it even gives you cool bottom edge goodness
[17:33] <balloons> also checkout https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/web/tutorials/web-app-tutorial/ for more info. you have to provide the webapp container instructions
[17:34] <nemo> mcphail: hey. any time to fiddle w/ HW? ☺
[17:38] <DF_> ballons
[17:38] <DF_> with template??
[17:39] <DF_> thats what im seeing right now
[17:39] <DF_> but i just want the app in the app file not to open the browser when you click on a link
[17:40] <mcphail> nemo: I'm not at home just now - won't be back until next Tuesday. Would like to have a look then :)
[17:43] <DF_> MSG ballooons: are you talking about ora's template??
[17:48] <DF_> ogra*
[17:52] <balloons> rpadovani, you about?
[17:53] <balloons> ohh hey popey btw, ahayzen was wanting highlight notice in the topic
[17:53] <popey> :D
[17:53] <popey> done
[17:53] <ahayzen> \o/
[17:53] <ahayzen> thanks popey
[17:53] <rpadovani> balloons, o/
[17:53] <balloons> ahayzen, you wanted info on how to run tests?
[17:54] <ahayzen> balloons, i did :-)
[17:54] <balloons> From https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/quality/, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/running-autopilot-tests/
[17:54]  * ahayzen trying to get weather-app-reboot going
[17:54] <balloons> do let me know if things need more info, etc
[17:54] <balloons> that should cover everything :-)
[17:55] <balloons> rpadovani, so I'm trying to figure out a cmake error when building calculator
[17:55] <balloons> rpadovani, here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11910338/
[17:55] <balloons> This is from the new jenkins jobs
[17:57] <balloons> the install destination for ubuntu-calculator-app.png is specified as file(INSTALL DESTINATION "//share/qml"
[17:57] <balloons> which is confusing for me :-)
[17:58] <rpadovani> balloons, I can indeed reproduce it with click-buddy, but not only compiling in the normal way
[17:58] <rpadovani> I'll take a look, thanks for pointing out
[17:59] <balloons> awesome, ty :-)
[17:59]  * balloons wasn't expecting a generous offer of fixing it, but I'll take it!
[18:01] <rpadovani> balloons, until you ask me to write tests, I'm happy :-P
[18:01] <ahayzen> balloons, so that command the docs say to run wasn't working for me when i tried it yesterday...
[18:02]  * ahayzen tries again
[18:02] <balloons> ahayzen, ok, I'm happy to both troubleshoot and update the docs based on our findings
[18:02] <ahayzen> haha let me double check
[18:07] <ahayzen> balloons, if i supply the -p <password> i get "adt-virt-ssh: WARNING: ssh connection failed. Retrying in 3 seconds..." ... but if i don't it seems to be attempting todo things
[18:09] <ahayzen> ooo its managed to start the app! but getting loads of warnings as it couldn't sudo things and is getting denials
[18:09] <ahayzen> but i can see my mocking has worked :-D
[18:13] <ahayzen> balloons, this is the MP i'm trying to test on my device https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot-ap-create-fake-env/+merge/265191 and this is the WIP readme we are documenting the commands with https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot-ap-readme/+merge/265221
[18:14] <balloons> ahayzen, so what are you concluding then?
[18:14] <ahayzen> balloons, -p causes adt-run not to work... meaning that i cannot get a full test run...as it gets blocked my apparmor
[18:15] <balloons> ahayzen, I basically commented to say the readme's from clock app have been updated
[18:15] <ahayzen> but i can at least see that my mocking is working (which is what this MP is doing)...but the next MP will be adding tests
[18:15] <balloons> you could copy those again
[18:15] <ahayzen> cool, do you have any ideas why i get that error?
[18:15] <ahayzen> i got it before lol
[18:18] <balloons> ahayzen, so the ssh connection fails if you supply a password eh?
[18:18] <ahayzen> yup
[18:18] <balloons> and the password is correct of course? is the device unlocked?
[18:18] <ahayzen> magic
[18:18] <ahayzen> yes and yes
[18:18] <balloons> ahayzen, what version of autopkgtest?
[18:18] <ahayzen> err vivid
[18:19] <balloons> latest from sid?
[18:19] <ahayzen> "Version: 3.13"
[18:19] <balloons> https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/autopkgtest/download
[18:20] <balloons> I wonder if I should make that in bigger / brighter letters.. download the newest version!
[18:20] <ahayzen> ahhh maybe this is why and i think this is what we did in malta/dc to get it working
[18:20] <rpadovani> balloons, no clue what's going on atm - dinner time, I hope to find a fix tonight
[18:20] <ahayzen> balloons, ok i gotta go shops etc, i'll try it when i'm back thanks :-D
[18:21] <balloons> I don't think it will magically fix anything, but we'll see
[18:21] <balloons> either way, we can blame pitti and get it checked out
[18:21] <ahayzen> \o/ lol
[18:21] <DF_> ballons
[18:21] <balloons> rpadovani, ack, ty. Enjoy!
[18:21] <DF_> balloons*
[18:22] <balloons> or baloons, depending on your lang of choice
[18:22] <balloons> or luftballon
[18:22] <DF_> i've used the great template, but still it's opening the web browser when i click on a link
[18:23] <balloons> DF_, the tutorial would do a better job of explaining than me, but afaik, you have to tell the container what links should stay inside and what can go to the browser
[18:23] <balloons> you have to whitelist some domains. I'm thinking there is also a magical switch to force everything to stay inside, but I don't remember offhand
[18:23] <DF_> ok, i'll watch again
[18:24] <DF_> thanks balloons
[18:24] <balloons> DF_, if nothing else, I guess I can pull my own webapp and look at the switches, he
[18:24] <balloons> one sec
[18:26] <mcphail> greyback: for an example of the problem have a look at http://themcphails.uk/pong.njmcphail_0.1_armhf.click - the x and y is offset and width and height are wrong. Before OTA5 (and rotation) it displayed "properly" but in portrait orientation.
[18:27] <DF_> ok ty balloons
[18:28] <balloons> DF_, ahh, I just used --webappUrlPatterns=
[18:28] <DF_> wai where??
[18:29] <DF_> i have this
[18:29] <DF_> var webappUrlPattern = "http://www.m.abola.pt/*"
[18:30] <balloons> My full exec line is Exec=webapp-container  --webappUrlPatterns=https?://www.cardsagainstoriginality.com/* http://www.cardsagainstoriginality.com/
[18:31] <DF_> but did you use the template of ogra??
[18:32] <mcphail> greyback: the other think to look at is SturmFlut's SDL template app. If you rotate the screen the display doesn't dynamically resize, but I _think_ it does if you resize a desktop window (can't check that just now)
[18:33] <greyback> mcphail: noted. I suspect sdl not dealing with surface resizing correctly.
[18:34] <mcphail> greyback: I suspect you're right
[18:35] <balloons> DF_, no, my webapp is many months old, and I haven't updated it
[18:35] <balloons> but I was pointing out that it contains properly
[18:36] <DF_> i try it with my app and still nothing
[18:36] <balloons> you can see the full options webapp-container --help
[18:37] <balloons> DF_, get rid of "
[18:37] <DF_> ow maybey it's that
[18:37] <DF_> i don't use the ""
[18:42] <balloons> DF_, can you paste your full .desktop file?
[18:42] <DF_> sure
[18:43] <DF_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11910563/
[18:43] <DF_> even when i don't use ogra's template it does the same thing
[18:43] <balloons> DF_, here's mine for comparison: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11910568/
[18:44] <DF_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11910571/
[18:45] <balloons> looks good.. perhaps simplify to Exec=webapp-container --webappUrlPatterns=https?://m.Abola.pt/*  http://m.Abola.pt
[18:45] <balloons> if it's not working; see if that works
[18:46] <DF_> i changed it to this
[18:47] <popey> x68
[18:47] <DF_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11910586/
[18:47] <popey> bah
[18:49] <DF_> bah this is kind of shitty
[18:51] <SturmFlut> greyback, mcphail: According to bschaefer SDL does not yet listen for all the window change events it gets from Mir
[18:52] <mcphail> SturmFlut: aah. Good to know bschaefer is on it
[18:54] <DF__> allons do you think i should send an email to the list of ubuntu phone developers??
[18:54] <DF__> balloons*
[18:54] <greyback> SturmFlut: thanks!
[18:54] <SturmFlut> mcphail: Also there seems to be a problem where the windows aren't created with their correct size and resized later. For example if you're in portrait mode and start an app that forces landscape, it is initialized at portrait size and then suddenly resizes to landscape.
[18:55] <balloons> DF__, does it work?
[18:55] <mcphail> SturmFlut: yes - I think that is what is going wrong with my simple app
[18:56] <DF__> nope
[18:56] <DF__> app begins, but when i click on a link or page of the site he opens the browser
[18:56] <DF__> to show it there
[18:56] <popey> so the url patterns is wrong
[18:57] <popey> probably the url is getting changed by the site and you haven't got the changed url in your urlpatterns
[18:57] <DF__> maybey
[18:57] <DF__> because the begin page opens well
[18:58] <DF__> the problem is when i try to open one of the site pages and he then send me to the browser
[18:59] <SturmFlut> DF__: The URL patterns are case sensitive
[18:59] <SturmFlut> DF__: webapp-container --enable-back-forward "--webappUrlPatterns=https?://m.abola.pt/*" http://m.abola.pt
[19:00] <DF__> StrumFlut
[19:00] <DF__> i dont have that in ""
[19:00] <SturmFlut> DF__: You don't have to, I just tried something
[19:01] <DF__> ow
[19:01] <DF__> ok
[19:01] <DF__> but still using the ogra template and normal
[19:01] <DF__> is going to the samething
[19:02] <DF__> only shows normaly the site
[19:02] <DF__> and then when i click on a page he opens the browser to show it there
[19:04] <DF__> and more it happend to me in 2 sites
[19:04] <DF__> this is the second one
[19:05] <DF__> now it works!!!!
[19:06] <balloons> ahayzen, fyi, I get the same error on my device :-)
[19:06] <DF__> only in the ogra it doesnt work
[19:06] <balloons> w8, we get to blame ogra_ ?
[19:08] <DF__> nope
[19:08] <DF__> he did a good job
[19:08] <DF__> but i used the same url as Strum
[19:09] <DF__> send me and i past it on the pasrt to weburl
[19:09] <DF__> and it didnt work
[19:10] <DF__> balloons he did a great job really great job
[19:11] <DF__> strange but it now works on ogra to...
[19:11] <DF__> really strange
[19:15] <rpadovani> balloons, but the issue is only with calculator?
[19:15] <balloons> rpadovani, for cmake builds? yea, only calculator has that problem amongst the core apps that I saw
[19:15] <rpadovani> mhhhh
[19:17] <balloons> ahayzen, problem solved.. it's a syntax issue. Updating the page
[19:19] <balloons> ahayzen, note the -- in front of -p: adt-run --click com.ubuntu.calculator --- ssh -s adb -- -p 0000
[19:22] <balloons> rpadovani, so where does the png file need to go? Can we list an absolute path?
[19:22] <rpadovani> balloons, I think I fixed it, I'm pushing a branch
[19:25] <rpadovani> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/fix-new-jenkins-build/+merge/265313
[19:26] <balloons> rpadovani, awesome, I'll try building
[19:30] <balloons> rpadovani, built just fine :-)
[19:30] <rpadovani> \o/
[19:34] <balloons> thanks rpadovani
[19:56] <rpadovani> popey, take a look to bug 1476374 please
[20:06] <rpadovani> sooo, how can I force the screen to be on :-)
[20:06] <rpadovani> ?
[20:17] <balloons> rpadovani, force screen to be on?
[20:22] <rpadovani> balloons, for a game, I don't want users have to touch the screen to have keep it on
[20:45] <popey> rpadovani: import QtSystemInfo 5.0 and ScreenSaver { screensaverEnabled: false }
[20:45] <popey> rpadovani: but you shouldn't just do that, you should check things like if the game is being played
[20:45] <popey> i.e. don't do it on the title screen
[20:46] <rpadovani> popey, nice suggestion, thanks!
[21:05] <rpadovani> popey, doesn't seem to work - does it require any special policy?
[21:08] <popey> i dont think so, mzanetti told me about it :)
[22:33] <kalikiana> t1mp: https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/back/+merge/264839
[22:41] <t1mp> kalikiana: great idea. Done :)
[22:42] <t1mp> kalikiana: hold on, I tweak it a bit.
[22:43] <kalikiana> nice
[22:43] <kalikiana> I'll wait
[22:43] <kalikiana> was actually in the middle of grabbing food :-D
[22:43] <t1mp> done
[22:45] <t1mp> kalikiana: enjoy your meal :)
[22:54]  * t1mp off


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[21:53] <nathwill> man, i hope 12.04 is cleaner than ocelot. the further i get into ocelot the more rough around the edges it seems


[01:07] <valdur55> Hello. how can i port systray icons to appindicator icons ?
[01:11] <jalcine> valdur55: you using Qt?
[01:12] <jalcine> If so, make sure your application depends on sni-qt (status notification indicator)
[01:12] <jalcine> It'll appear as an indicator.
[01:12] <valdur55> gtk
[01:12] <jalcine> O.O
[01:12]  * jalcine awkward.
[01:12] <jalcine> I'm not sure, more of a Qt buff :)
[01:13] <jalcine> Actually, I think that libappindicator is written using GTK.
[01:13] <jalcine> It'd be merely rewriting your systray code to it.
[01:21] <valdur55> jalcine, ok. but where i should put appindicator icons ?
[01:21] <jalcine> The code itself or the indicator itself?
[01:21] <jalcine> The indicators place themselves in the panel.
[01:23] <valdur55> jalcine, :) yea, i know it. but where is correct image path ?
[01:24] <jalcine> That, I'm not sure of.
[01:28] <valdur55> jalcine, radiotray main GUI is systray/appindicator menu.
[09:01] <davidcalle> mhr3, ping
[09:01] <mhr3> davidcalle, pong
[09:02] <davidcalle> mhr3, I would need you for a couple of things on the rb scope.
[09:02] <mhr3> davidcalle, sure, what do you need
[09:03] <davidcalle> mhr3, the filters and the max number of items displayed
[09:03] <davidcalle> mhr3, then it should be good to go
[09:04] <mhr3> davidcalle, as for filters, you need to add stuff into the model which represents the filtered properties
[09:05] <mhr3> then you can just filter out the items that don't matches the filters (after the search is done)
[09:05] <davidcalle> mhr3, I've added the genre in the dee model we search on.
[09:05] <mhr3> yea, good
[09:05] <didrocks> hey davidcalle!
[09:05] <didrocks> davidcalle: how are you?
[09:05] <davidcalle> didrocks, good, and you ?
[09:05] <didrocks> davidcalle: I'm fine thanks!
[09:06] <didrocks> davidcalle: about the rhythmbox scope, when do you think it will be ready?
[09:06] <mhr3> davidcalle, and basically you can do the same for the max results - keep a counter in the final loop that is adding stuff to the model and when you reach the limit, just break from the loop
[09:06] <didrocks> davidcalle: beta2 freeze is thursday, would be good to have something for it
[09:07] <mhr3> davidcalle, anything unclear?
[09:08] <davidcalle> mhr3, indeed, but I still have trouble doing these simple things in Vala and something that would take you ten minutes will take me two hours, but if you don't have the time, that's fine :)
[09:09] <didrocks> mhr3: do you think you can take some time to help davidcalle so that we get the scope for tomorrow freeze? ^
[09:10] <mhr3> yea
[09:12] <didrocks> thanks mhr3 ;)
[09:23] <didrocks> greyback: hey, good morning!
[09:29] <greyback> didrocks: greetings!
[09:29] <didrocks> greyback: hey hey ;) waiting to know where we are at with the multimonitors issues we saw on thursday?
[09:29] <greyback> didrocks: fyi I've a small metacity patch to test
[09:30] <didrocks> ah, metacity :)
[09:30] <greyback> which should fix the nautilus icons-under-launcher problem
[09:30] <didrocks> greyback: didn't really see merges related to fixes on unity-2d (the other on the monitor position on nvidia and fglrx), I maybe missed it :)
[09:30] <greyback> didrocks: yes, more bull due to NET_WORKAREA being crap
[09:30] <didrocks> greyback: great! fire on! :)
[09:31] <greyback> didrocks: nvidia, Saviq just couldn't reproduce. He's adamant that there's always a primary monitor set.
[09:32] <greyback> didrocks: I met get him to chat to you about it
[09:32] <Saviq> didrocks, let me know if you can reproduce and the steps
[09:32] <didrocks> greyback: link for the metacity merge?
[09:32] <Saviq> didrocks, but we never got anything else than 0 for Primary (on all the different systems we tested)
[09:32] <greyback> didrocks: fglrx, driver sucks, you cannot set the primary monitor.
[09:33] <didrocks> Saviq: on nvidia:
[09:33] <greyback> didrocks: none just yet, I need to test locally before pushing
[09:33] <didrocks> - have two monitor set with monitor on the right, laptop screen on the left
[09:33] <Saviq> didrocks, when I "deselected" the primary monitor on nvidia-settings, the other got selected as primary,
[09:33] <Saviq> is that not the case for you?
[09:34] <didrocks> - on nvidia-settings ensure none are selected as primary monitor
[09:34] <didrocks> Saviq: hum, I got a case when none was selected
[09:34] <didrocks> let me check
[09:35] <didrocks> ok, I can't get back to the case of both unselected :/
[09:35] <Saviq> good :)
[09:35] <didrocks> what about fglrx, it's not possible to set a primary monitor?
[09:36] <Saviq> yes, it seems it doesn't care what you do
[09:36] <Saviq> didrocks, sil2100 knows more
[09:37] <didrocks> hum… that's kind of anyone then
[09:37] <didrocks> let's see with him and did you talked with the 3d guys?
[09:37] <didrocks> they probably had the same issue
[09:37] <didrocks> (dbo will know more)
[09:38] <greyback> didrocks: that's something I didn't do. I checked their code, they just choose the primary monitor. But I'll ask in case they do something fancy
[09:38] <greyback> s/choose/use/
[09:40] <didrocks> greyback: thanks!
[09:40] <didrocks> greyback: so, once the metacity is here and I confirm it works
[09:40] <didrocks> we probably can release
[09:40] <greyback> didrocks: sweet
[09:40] <didrocks> (saw that some additional commits got it, they are safe?)
[09:41] <greyback> didrocks: they are, one strut fix for the bug you noticed, couple of RTL fixes too
[09:42] <didrocks> ok :)
[10:16] <greyback> sil2100: hey, with the ATI driver problems we had with primary monitor setting, if you have a minute can you check that <primary> is being set correctly in ~/.config/monitors.xml
[10:17] <sil2100> greyback: sure thing, just one moment - since right now I'm using a single monitor only
[10:17] <greyback> sil2100: no rush, just good to confirm it
[10:21] <sil2100> Ok, need to restart the session
[10:21] <sil2100> One moment
[10:25] <sil2100> greyback: what should I look for in that config? Since it seems to be correct, as the laptop screen (the one I set as primary) is on the first position
[10:26] <greyback> sil2100: in the Displays panel, could you drag the panel to the non-laptop screen
[10:27] <greyback> sil2100: check the config file is correct. Then reboot and check again
[10:27] <greyback> sil2100: log out/in again is enough, no need to reboot
[10:31] <sil2100> greyback: ok, it seems to change the "primary" property correctly, but the Launcher is still on the same monitor everytime
[10:32] <greyback> sil2100: ok, it's definitely the driver that's just not doing anything when we ask it to switch the primary monitor
[10:32] <greyback> sil2100: thank you for confirming that for me
[10:33] <sil2100> greyback: I noticed one strange thing when I was on unity 3d though
[10:34] <greyback> sil2100: go on
[10:34] <sil2100> greyback: when I was switching the primary monitor in the Displays panel, I noticed that my mouse cursor - after pressing Apply - was changing screens according to what I set as the primary screen
[10:35] <sil2100> greyback: i.e. when I set the laptop screen as primary, my cursor was teleported to the laptop screen
[10:35] <sil2100> greyback: so hm...
[10:35] <greyback> sil2100: hmmm.
[10:35] <greyback> I've no idea :)
[10:36] <greyback> perhaps compiz listens for the screen changes and moves cursor around to suit
[10:37] <greyback> But for now, I see nothing obvious we can do to work around this issue
[10:37] <sil2100> Could be, but then maybe you could hook up to that in unity-2d?
[10:38] <greyback> sil2100: I'll have look at compiz to see if it's doing something clever
[10:40] <greyback> sil2100: thanks for the help, I'll ping if I need anything
[10:40] <sil2100> greyback: thanks!
[11:40] <Klap-in> hi, recent i fixed a issue in the wall-plugin of compiz and added a diff. Bug #904205 Can i ask somebody to include it in 12.04? or what the way to go?
[11:43] <rye> Hello, regarding the thumb for the scrollbars - if you move window far to the left, the thumb appears inside the window, but cannot be grabbed
[12:03] <didrocks> greyback: hey, any progress on metacity? :)
[12:03] <greyback> didrocks: yep, just fighting with dpkg :)
[12:04] <greyback> didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/metacity/workarea_fix
[12:04] <didrocks> greyback: thanks :)
[12:14] <rye> is current unity using Alt+F10 too/
[12:15] <rye> unity2d - yes, unity - seems yes too, from ppa
[12:15] <sil2100> rye: yes, at least it should
[12:15] <rye> pressing Alt+F10 twice renders keyboard and mouse input impossible
[12:15] <didrocks> greyback: so, the icon are now shifted \o/
[12:15] <rye> sil2100: if you try, to revert - unity --reset in terminal only :(
[12:15] <didrocks> greyback: however, the fix for "on the second monitor, maximizing an application takes the STRUT" is in unity-2d?
[12:16] <didrocks> rye: compiz is bad at dealing with configuration upgrade
[12:16] <greyback> didrocks: yes. We forgot to remove all other struts when using 1 launcher
[12:16] <rye> didrocks: well, alt+f10 is indeed set in the preferences, and it works, however pressing Alt+F10 twice made me want to smash the keyboard, which does not appear to fix the issue
[12:17] <sil2100> rye: the thing you described is a bug that happened in the past when alt is still pressed and f10 more times than one - not sure if it was fixed or not
[12:17] <sil2100> I think I saw a bug for that, need to look for it
[12:17] <sil2100> (since it's rather serious)
[12:17] <didrocks> greyback: let me grab trunk
[12:18] <rye> sil2100: i am also tracking the gtk bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=661973 which makes terminal receive both F10 key and pop up the menu...
[12:20] <rye> aha, looks like bug #948522
[12:32] <didrocks> greyback: no more STRUT on unity-2d trunk here with hide-mode 0
[12:33] <greyback> didrocks: you mean there's a launcher but it has no strut?
[12:33] <didrocks> greyback: right
[12:33] <didrocks> greyback: sorry, there is some STRUT
[12:33] <didrocks> but nautilus isn't respecting it again
[12:35] <greyback> didrocks: can you give me steps to reproduce?
[12:35] <didrocks> greyback: hum, no real steps for that
[12:36] <didrocks> "start unity-2d"
[12:36] <didrocks> "ensure hide-mode is 0"
[12:36] <didrocks> "check that nautilus icon are still under the launcher"
[12:36] <didrocks> can restart my session if you think that's a transient issue
[12:37] <greyback> didrocks: would you mind? I'm not reproducing it here
[12:37] <didrocks> ok, one sec
[12:41] <didrocks> greyback: confirmed, getting the issue with unity-2d trunk
[12:41] <greyback> didrocks: I think I know what's happening. Can we mumble?
[12:41] <didrocks> sure
[12:44] <greyback> didrocks: good old Mumble :)
[12:54] <didrocks> multiple launchers work fine
[12:54] <didrocks> pushing the release then :)
[12:54] <greyback> yay!
[12:54] <didrocks> nice work!
[13:02] <Klap-in> Who can give some advice? recent i fixed a issue in the wall-plugin of compiz and added a diff. Bug #904205 . Can i ask somebody to include it in 12.04? or what is the way to go?
[13:41] <didrocks> Klap-in: try to ping sam (smspillaz) or duflu when they are around
[13:42] <didrocks> Klap-in: australian time most of the time
[13:56] <MCR1> Klap-in: Please do more :)
[14:07] <Klap-in> MCR1: i will try :) sofar my understanding of c++ is basic, but it's to do :)
[14:08] <MCR1> Klap-in: Great news :) I would be very happy if someone could fix Emerald compilation for Precise as it is not working anymore...
[14:08] <MCR1> Compiz is not Compiz anymore without Emerald ;)
[14:10] <Klap-in> MCR1: but that's an extra decorator beyond compiz?
[14:12] <MCR1> yep, but it was made to accomplish compiz
[14:13] <MCR1> git clone git://anongit.compiz.org/fusion/decorators/emerald
[14:15] <MCR1> Klap-in: it would be really nice if you could take a look at it - probably a minor issue
[14:15] <MCR1> :)
[15:39] <bilal|web> seb128: there?
[15:40] <seb128> bilal|web, sort of, why?
[15:40] <bilal|web> seb128: I nedeed further clarification on bug #955147, and whether design decisions should be a blocker for freeze exceptions
[15:42] <bilal|web> rather, shouldn't the design team be left off to ponder over it?
[15:42] <bilal|web> (that has already been approved by designers, btw)
[15:43] <seb128> bilal|web, don't ask me, but yeah, something to deal between design team and release team
[17:10] <Andy80> om26er: cool :) (faster here than on Twitter :D )
[17:14] <om26er> Andy80, ;-)
[20:41] <thomi> mhall119: ping?
[20:41] <mhall119> thomi: pong
[20:42] <thomi> mhall119: Hi - I tried to get in touch last week, but forgot about timezones ;) - we were going to talk about the best place to put tutorials / documentation relating to the testing effort in Unity (autopilot)
[20:42] <mhall119> thomi: yes!
[20:43] <thomi> It'd be super-cool to have the documentation at the point where people from outside the unity team / canonical can contribute autopilot tests for unity
[20:44] <mhall119> thomi: can you view https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/14G-BDOxb6h9jI9DADHEC74Hhv6fp0yMk-4c8LmSiYGY/edit?authkey=CJbH-OUB ?
[20:45] <thomi> mhall119: yep, once I fight with google's multiple-signon stuff :)
[20:45] <mhall119> blegh
[20:45] <mhall119> thomi: I can invite your main google email to it, if that helps
[20:45] <thomi> mhall119: I'm in now
[20:46] <mhall119> cool
[20:46] <mhall119> thomi: so this is what I'll be working on this week
[20:46] <mhall119> I already did the design section, thanks to JohnLea's blog about the steps in the design process
[20:46] <mhall119> I was going to start writing the coding page next, using the docs we collected for developer.u.c
[20:47] <mhall119> I suppose writing autopilot tests should be in there
[20:47] <thomi> OK, I guess autopilot falls under "Coding" rather than "Testing", since some python experience is required?
[20:48] <mhall119> yeah, Testing was really going to be about how to run existing tests and provide feedback
[20:49] <thomi> ok. When do these changes go public? Is this something for the 12.04 release?
[20:49] <mhall119> thomi: yeah
[20:49] <mhall119> the current target publish date is "as soon as we finish writing them"
[20:50] <mhall119> developer.u.c docs are mostly done, but unity.u.c docs are just starting
[20:53] <mhall119> thumper: dbarth: you guys might be interested in this, I'm trying to get meaningful stats from the unity, unity-2d and nux bzr branches:
[20:53] <mhall119> Total Committers: 119
[20:53] <mhall119> Internal: 14772 commits from 45 people
[20:53] <mhall119> External: 794 commits from 74 people
[20:53] <mhall119> Unknown: 12
[21:01] <thumper> mhall119: interesting
[21:02] <mhall119> thumper: http://paste.ubuntu.com/891299/ is the script if you're curious
[21:02] <mhall119> thumper: any member of one of the "unity_teams" is considered an Internal contributor
[21:03] <mhall119> if you know of a more accurate set of teams, let me know and I'll update it
[21:04] <mhall119> sadly it counts contributions from current employees as Internal, even if they were hired after some of those contributions were made
[21:04] <mhall119> so it's a bit skewed in favor of Internal
[21:12] <htorque> hi all! can you tell me whether 6 million invalid writes of size 1 in one hour from compiz/unityshell are a problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/886919/ sounds like a lot.
[22:51] <bilal> When is the merge window for new features in Unity 5.8 closing?
[23:43] <htorque> Trevinho: hi! bug 938082 - what version of unity are you running? i'm on 5.6.0-0ubuntu4 and about to re-test.
[23:52] <htorque> Trevinho: great, i'm too not able to reproduce it. :-)


[07:33] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:20] <Antisound> hi guys. Has anyone of you tried the plasma5 daily live image from 10/03/14?
[11:24] <soee> nope :)
[11:25] <soee> im using it on my work machine -.-
[11:29] <Antisound> soee: you're using 5.0.95 on your work machine?
[11:37] <soee> Antisound: sure
[11:37] <Antisound> soee: how did you get it run?
[11:37] <Antisound> if i boot it up kwin crashes everytime
[11:38] <Antisound> indifferent if i upgrade from 5.0.2 or try it via live disk
[11:42] <sgclark> I have a problem with my desktop that has an nvidia card, laptop upgrade is fine aside from a missing usb devices icon
[11:43] <Antisound> sgclark: so you installed it via ppa or live disk?
[11:43] <sgclark> both of mine were upgrades via ppa
[11:43] <Antisound> damn,... i can't understand why it doesn't work for me
[11:43] <soee> Antisound: im on Plamsa 5 since 5.0.0, and just doing upgrades
[11:44] <soee> im using in on my laption with nvidia + optimus
[11:44] <Antisound> if got an amd a4 cpu it's an integrated gpu unit
[11:44] <Antisound> i can't think thats a problem
[11:44] <sgclark> soee: you using nvidia-331 driver?
[11:44] <soee> sgclark: the recommended one,
[11:45] <soee> 331.89
[11:45] <Antisound> sgclark: can you tell me what i'm doing wrong?
[11:45] <sgclark> interesting.
[11:45] <sgclark> Antisound: I have no idea what you did. Sorry : /
[11:46] <Antisound> just updated via ppa ;-)
[11:46] <soee> Antisound: you did fresh install ?
[11:46] <Antisound> soee: more than once ;-)
[11:46] <sgclark> did you have any held back packages?
[11:46] <Antisound> sgclark: if i upgrade via full-upgrade no
[11:46] <soee> how ? i suggest install 14.10 beta, than add next-ppa
[11:47] <Antisound> soee: maybe i should try this again
[11:47] <Antisound> i upgraded from the live image 01/10/14 i think
[11:47] <sgclark> soee: can you tell me if you have lightdm installed
[11:47] <Antisound> soee: but you mean the 14.10 plasma5 beta
[11:48] <Antisound> soee: or the "usual" 14.10
[11:48] <soee> sgclark: this is default
[11:48] <soee> Antisound: i did normal 14.10 install
[11:49] <soee> than added plasma-next ppa and did full upgrade
[11:49] <Antisound> soee: but the normal 14.10 is with kde 4 or?
[11:49] <soee> sgclark: i tried several times sddm but it alwasy fails
[11:49] <soee> Antisound: yes
[11:49] <Antisound> soee: so i try this
[11:49] <sgclark> soee: ok that is my problem. thanks
[11:51] <Antisound> soee: can you tell me where the difference between apt-get dist-upgrade and apt full-upgrade is?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:52] <Antisound> BluesKaj: hi!
[11:53] <BluesKaj> hey Antisound
[11:53] <sgclark> hiyas
[11:55] <BluesKaj> well, the plasma 5 seems not too bad so far , no quicklaunch for the panel is disappointing tho
[11:56] <soee> BluesKaj: quicklaunch ?
[11:56] <soee> Antisound: not sure :)
[11:56] <Antisound> BluesKaj: you're using Plasma 5.1 Beta?
[11:56] <Antisound> okay soee ;-)
[11:57] <BluesKaj> soee, there's a quicklaunch widget that one cab use for fav apps rather than the kmenu launcher
[11:58] <BluesKaj> cab=can
[11:59] <sgclark> BluesKaj: I am working on kdeplasma-addons, not sure if it is ported yet, but should be soon
[11:59] <BluesKaj> but the favorites in the kmenu will suffice for now
[12:00] <Antisound> BluesKaj: won't you reply me ;)
[12:00] <BluesKaj> sgclark, good to hear, thanks
[12:00] <soee> BluesKaj: you can alwayts pin your fav apps in task manager or icon task
[12:01] <BluesKaj> the quicklaunch uses small icons
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Antisound,using  whatever plasma version is in the kubuntu next ppa
[12:03] <Antisound> BluesKaj: so you updated via ppa too?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> yrs
[12:03] <BluesKaj> yes rather
[12:04] <Antisound> BluesKaj: from which version you updated?
[12:04] <BluesKaj> suddenly very dark in herer , rainclouds passing over
[12:05] <Antisound> did you use a daily live image before?
[12:06] <Antisound> soee: i'm going to try the method you recommend me ;-)
[12:06] <Antisound> ttyl guys
[12:40] <Antisound> re
[12:40] <Antisound> can you tell me guys, when i'm going to update now, why the package plasma-desktop is held back?
[12:45] <soee> install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop
[12:46] <Antisound> okay
[12:47] <Antisound> soee: i do the dist-upgrade now, and afterwards i install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop
[12:47] <soee> i think it should install it for you
[12:47] <soee> but if not, install it
[12:47] <soee> its a meta package i think that should install all required packages
[12:47] <Antisound> okay
[12:48] <Antisound> we'll c what happens after full-upgrade
[12:48] <Antisound> i'll update you ;-)
[12:52] <soee> i remember that few monthe ago i had to force overwrite some pacjages that caused problems during ugrade
[12:52] <soee> hope they all work fine now
[12:53] <soee> brb in a few minute
[14:13] <Antisound> so... one last try
[14:13] <Antisound> soee: nothing worked... there were extreme dependency errors ;-)
[14:14] <Antisound> i try with the plasma 5 beta 2 and update it via ppa
[14:14] <soee> what errors exacly ?
[14:15] <soee> Antisound: also are you creating new home/user or keeping old one and tinatlling system
[14:16] <Antisound> a specific library
[14:16] <Antisound> don't know the name anymore
[14:16] <Antisound> libkf5 something,... afaik
[14:16] <Antisound> keeping old why?
[14:21] <soee> as i said i remember i had to do force overwrite when installing it some time ago
[14:21] <soee> Antisound: i used: sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install PACKAGE_NAME_HERE
[14:24] <Antisound> soee: it wasn't possible for me to install it despite force
[14:24] <Antisound> soee: whatever,... this is my last try... for now
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Antisound, are you getting an error with this package, libkf5sysguard5-data_4%3a5.0.95-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa4_amd64.deb ?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> Antisound, id so run,  sudo dpkg -i -–force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5sysguard5-data_4%3a5.0.95-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa4_amd64.deb
[14:27] <BluesKaj> if so
[14:27] <Antisound> BluesKaj: you might be right could have been that package
[14:28] <Antisound> BluesKaj: but doesn't matter anymore ... installed the beta 2 for 14.10 plasma 5
[14:28] <Antisound> BluesKaj: i try to update this version now
[14:28] <Antisound> we'll c if it will boot up
[14:31] <Antisound> the update runs fluently till now
[14:33] <soee> had a problem with it to
[14:34] <soee> just did force overwrite
[14:37] <BluesKaj> now dist-upgrade
[14:40] <Antisound> BluesKaj: now i've got another problem
[14:40] <Antisound>  /var/cache/apt/archives/qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin_5.2.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[14:40] <Antisound> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> Antisound, this ppa? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next
[14:42] <Antisound> yep
[14:42] <Antisound> 4 sure ;-)
[14:47] <Antisound> damn is that an error which could kill my system?
[14:49] <Antisound> okay i tried it once more with apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[14:49] <Antisound> seems to be good
[14:51] <soee> -f ?
[14:51] <Antisound> force
[14:52] <Antisound> soee: don't know why, but i think now it's working ;-)
[14:52] <soee> hope so :)
[14:54] <Antisound> hell yeah... updated ended with no errors
[14:54] <Antisound> got to reboot
[14:54] <Antisound> hope to ttyl ;-)
[14:58] <soee> and how snow ?
[14:58] <Antisound> here i am, back again with 5.0.95
[14:58] <Antisound> :D
[14:59]  * Antisound is satisfied ;-)
[14:59] <soee> :D
[14:59] <Antisound> pretty interesting,... till kf5 i never have used kde
[15:00] <Antisound> but since the new kicker i like it
[15:00] <Antisound> hmm looks pretty nice everything
[15:00] <soee> true
[15:01] <Antisound> i think the last times it didn't boot up the problem was because the dist-upgrade didn't worked correctly
[15:02] <Antisound> the only thing, correct me if i'm wrong,... the firefox has no native kde look or?
[15:07] <soee> define native
[15:07] <soee> gtk apps shoudl use similiar style that qt do
[15:13] <Antisound> soee: right
[15:13] <Antisound> plasma is qt or?
[15:13] <Antisound> and firefox is gtk or?
[15:13] <Antisound> isn't it possible to let firefox look like a kde app?
[15:20] <soee> and how it looks now ?
[15:25] <Antisound> it looks like a foreign object ;-)
[15:26] <soee> Go system Settings - > Application look
[15:26] <soee> the GTK section and be sure GTK2 have qtcurve set
[15:26] <BluesKaj> hmm, very few widgets actually work
[15:27] <Antisound> soee: there was orion choosen
[15:27] <soee> naah
[15:27] <soee> use qtcurve :D
[15:27] <Antisound> ok
[15:27] <Antisound> ;-)
[15:27] <Antisound> WAAAAAAAAAAAY better soee ;-)
[15:27] <Antisound> thx :)
[15:28] <Antisound> oh my gosh,. .it was so ugly before
[15:28] <Antisound> soee: tell me why is the default setting this ugly thing :D
[15:28] <soee> no idea :)
[15:29] <soee> thisi smy gtk settings: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/10/04/qtcurve_gtk.png
[15:29] <Antisound> ok
[15:30] <soee> Riddell: the qtcurve isn't set by default for gtk2 apps ?
[15:30] <Antisound> soee: whats your native language?
[15:30] <Antisound> hungarian?
[15:30] <soee> Antisound: Polish
[15:30] <Antisound> ok
[15:30] <Antisound> looks simliar ;-)
[15:30] <soee> a bit :)
[15:31] <Antisound> so we're "nearly" neighbours ;-)
[15:31]  * Antisound is german
[15:31] <soee> :)
[15:31] <Antisound> soee: you made my day with these settings change
[15:32] <soee> im glad Plasma5 works for you :)
[15:33] <Antisound> soee: yeah thx,... everything is fine now, for me too :)
[15:33] <Antisound> would have been sad if beta 1 wouldn't have worked for me
[15:35] <Antisound> now i can everything suit to my needs
[15:37] <Antisound> soee: maybe you can help me with one last information... or anybody else... why doesn't muon discover show packages like wine e.g.
[15:38] <soee> oh no idea, im not using muon discover
[15:38] <Antisound> generally many packages which are installable via apt aren't installable via muon
[15:38] <Antisound> BluesKaj: do you know maybe?
[15:39] <Antisound> that makes no sence for me,... WHO uses muon... i've often heard for now,.. i'm not using muon
[15:39] <Antisound> strange :D
[15:40] <soee> well im using muon, not muon discover
[15:40] <Antisound> muon = muon discover? !?
[15:40] <Antisound> i thought...
[15:40] <soee> nope
[15:41] <Antisound> soee: what's muon ?
[15:41] <soee> gnome hae synaptic, kde have muon
[15:41] <Antisound> ok
[15:41] <soee> unity has this Application Center or how do they call it
[15:42] <soee> Kubuntu kave Muon Discover
[15:42] <Antisound> ahhhhh
[15:42] <Antisound> soee: that makes sence ;-)
[15:42] <Antisound> so i've got to ask Riddell...
[15:44] <soee> I think that shadeslayer or apachelogger is responsible for muon discover, but im not 100% sure
[15:45] <Antisound> maybe one of these guys will responde if they read ;-)
[15:46] <Antisound> You can install the "Muon Package Manager" to have that "all packages" experience. By design, Muon Discover is a end-user (i.e., not an expert user) level application, like an "app store" thing. If what you want is a more direct GUI front-end to apt-get / aptitude-search, then what you want is the Muon Package Manager. Install with:
[15:46] <Antisound> thats what i found in an bug reporting ;-)
[15:49] <soee> :]
[15:53] <Antisound> damn
[15:53] <Antisound> plasmshell crashed
[18:30] <Antisound> omg, quassel is such a shitty software
[18:31] <Antisound> not even dcc is provided...
[18:31] <BluesKaj> I'm sure it does Antisound , you just have to look for it
[18:31] <Antisound> where?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> dunno i don't use it :)
[18:32] <Antisound> hehe
[18:32] <Antisound> lmao
[18:33] <Antisound> http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/22
[18:33] <BluesKaj> used once or twice for a few mins, but I didn't like the layout
[18:33] <Antisound> what you say now BluesKaj ;-)
[18:33] <Antisound> BluesKaj: recommend a better irc client
[18:34] <BluesKaj> konversation
[18:34] <BluesKaj> Antisound, wow , wasn't aware, that's surprising , no dcc
[18:34] <Antisound> hehe
[18:35] <Antisound> unbelivable since 7 years planed ;-)
[18:35] <Antisound> unbelivable since 7 years planed ;-)
[18:35] <Antisound> sry lag
[18:35] <BluesKaj> been using konversation so long I can't remember when I started using it
[18:35] <Antisound> ok
[18:36] <Antisound> i'M trying it
[18:38] <Antisound_> re with konversation
[18:51] <soee> +1 for konversation
[18:52] <Peace-> konversation +1 http://wstaw.org/m/2014/10/04/plasma-desktopMd2491.png
[19:51] <kubuntu_user_296> Hi. How do I file a bug against the Kubuntu Installer?


[00:53] <stgraber> ogra_: fixed the issue with the diff generator (failing on relative hardlinks path in the tarball when the path is relative to the tarball root and not the fs root) and re-enabled the cronjob, so your image should publish in the next few minutes
[04:34] <slangasek> hmm, https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html appears to be updating, but the content doesn't seem to have
[04:52] <cjwatson> slangasek: note that its data source is trusty, not trusty+trusty-proposed
[04:52] <cjwatson> (which is arguably a bug ...)
[04:53] <slangasek> cjwatson: ah, right, I had assumed rsyslog had already migrated and it hasn't
[04:54] <slangasek> oh right, it hasn't migrated because it hasn't built because I'm still waiting for an MIR ack - ho hum
[09:23] <xnox> I've had to retry lucene++ twice on amd64 & i386. It's now built on amd64, but still not on i386. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lucene++/3.0.4-0ubuntu3
[09:23] <xnox> are there any tricks as to getting it built?  disable parallel? keep retrying?
[13:21] <jamespage> please could someone reject openvswitch from saucy-proposed
[13:21] <jamespage> apparently I don't have my brain correctly wired today
[13:23] <sil2100> Hello, is anyone from the SRU team around?
[13:54] <stgraber> jamespage: done
[13:55] <jamespage> stgraber, ta
[14:04] <zul> can you reject msgpack-python and python-cliff for me? thanks
[14:20] <stgraber> zul: done
[14:21] <zul> stgraber:  thanks
[15:05] <lamont> what release-teamish folks around?
[15:06] <stgraber> lamont: what's up?
[15:06] <lamont> I'm about to possibly introduce a small disturbance into the syncproxy world.  figured I should make sure it's a rational time and all that
[15:07] <lamont> syncproxy is moving to a new home is all
[15:07] <lamont> it _should_ be seamless
[15:08] <lamont> stgraber: any thoughts?
[15:09] <stgraber> lamont: syncproxy is just for the ISO images right?
[15:09] <lamont> and archive
[15:09] <lamont> releases + archive
[15:09] <lamont> those IP addresses are dedicated, and moving to a new host
[15:09] <stgraber> ok, how long do you expect it to be down?
[15:09] <lamont> which is a clone of the old host
[15:09] <lamont> moments only, though if I broke sync because of firewalls and such, there could be lagginess
[15:10] <lamont> steps:
[15:10] <lamont> 1) disable triggering of old
[15:10] <lamont> 2) one last sync
[15:10] <lamont> 1.5) quiesce old :D
[15:10] <lamont> 3) enable triggering on the new
[15:10] <lamont> 4) manually trigger an archive pulse
[15:10] <lamont> 5)watch
[15:11] <lamont> 6) profit
[15:11] <stgraber> ok, well, go ahead whenever you want, just make sure to let us know here. releases I'm not concerned about since we won't be publishing anything new there for quite a while. archive is a bit more problematic but there aren't really any good time to get it out of sync with ftpmaster
[15:11] <lamont> right
[15:11] <lamont> it should remain synced.  It may miss one sync pulse though
[15:12] <lamont> s/synced/consistent/
[15:14] <stgraber> lamont: looks like we use *.syncproxy.ubuntu.com for the trigger, so nothing to change on our side apparently
[15:15] <stgraber> lamont: though I just noticed releases.syncproxy.ubuntu.com is currently unhappy. Is that because you started the switch?
[15:15] <lamont> stgraber: I disabled the triggering of syncproxy
[15:15] <stgraber> ok, good, makes sense
[15:15] <lamont> (commented out the ssh keys for archvsync
[15:15]  * lamont is on step 1.5
[15:17] <lamont> last sync is running
[15:40] <lamont> stgraber: feel like doing a manual trigger for me?
[15:42] <stgraber> lamont: trying from nusakan now
[15:42] <stgraber> lamont: seems to be hanging
[15:43] <stgraber> lamont: is <IP_ADDRESS> the correct IP for releases.syncproxy.ubuntu.com?
[15:43] <stgraber> lamont: if so, port 22 times out, possibly due to a firewall somewhere
[15:43] <lamont> firewall.  let me go smacking
[15:44] <lamont> interesting
[15:47]  * infinity wakes up and sees people talking about syncproxy...
[15:47] <infinity> lamont: Fill me in, is this a new ssh key and IP, or a cloned cutover?
[15:47] <infinity> Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:44:39 +0000: Triggering archive.syncproxy.ubuntu.com:
[15:48] <infinity> ssh: connect to host archive.syncproxy.ubuntu.com port 22: Connection timed out
[15:48] <infinity> (From ftpmaster)
[15:48] <lamont> same ip same key, etc.
[15:48] <lamont> otoh, I'm figuring out why that IP isn't as live as it thinks it is
[15:48] <infinity> Ahh, check.
[15:49] <xnox> please de-new vowpal-wabbit for boost1.54 transition. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=
[15:51] <infinity> xnox: Looking.
[15:58] <lamont> infinity: it should be happy now.
[15:58] <lamont> stupid sticky arp caches
[15:59] <stgraber> lamont: still unhappy from nusakan
[15:59] <lamont> hrmpf
[16:01] <lamont> more arp caches cleared
[16:02] <lamont> nusakan should be happy
[16:02] <stgraber> yep, looks happy now
[16:02] <ogra_> high hopes
[16:02] <infinity> lamont: ftpmaster's about done a publisher run, I'll let you know if it explodes.
[16:02]  * lamont is tailing logfiles
[16:02] <stgraber> of course there's nothing to sync so I can't really check, but ssh to syncproxy definitely worked
[16:03] <lamont> stgraber: true that
[16:06] <infinity> lamont: Log looked good, at least.  Assuming the trigger did something on the other side. ;)
[16:07] <infinity> I don't see that host attached to pepo:873, but maybe it was that quick?
[16:08] <lamont> Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:07:29 +0000: Unifying file list with stay-of-execution list
[16:08] <lamont> it's chunking along on the archive bit
[16:11] <lamont> both a releases and an archive push are now in progress
[16:18] <lamont> infinity: I'm going to declare step 6 complete (profit)
[16:18] <lamont>  /dev/sda1       1.7T  754G  807G  49% /
[16:18] <infinity> lamont: Good deal.
[16:18] <ogra_> lamont, so on to step 7
[16:18] <ogra_> (beer)
[16:18] <infinity> ogra_: lamont doesn't drink. :P
[16:18]  * infinity sends root beer.
[16:18] <lamont> ogra_: 7) close ticket.
[16:19] <lamont> FIN
[16:19] <ogra_> heh
[16:20] <bdmurray> infinity: could you merge https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu-archive-tools/phased-updates-disregard-package/+merge/192741?
[17:55] <seb128> infinity, bdmurray: hey, any chances you guys could review some saucy SRUs? (hud, libgpod, file-roller, indicator-* would be nice, would fix some of the top reported issues in saucy)
[17:56] <infinity> seb128: I'm suffering on seriously awful WiFi here, but I can have a look.
[17:57] <bdmurray> infinity: I can do it
[17:57] <infinity> Even better.
[17:57] <seb128> infinity, thanks, those are mostly small packages so should be easier to download
[17:57] <seb128> bdmurray, thanks
[18:01] <bdmurray> infinity: could you have a look at those procps uploads though since I sponsored them?
[18:23] <infinity> bdmurray: Sure.  P/Q/R/S?
[18:24] <bdmurray> infinity: yes all four
[18:26] <infinity> bdmurray: Is this fixed in T?
[18:26] <infinity> Ahh, bug log says yes.
[18:36] <seb128> bdmurray, infinity: libindicator's saucy's SRU is green and 9 days old, can we move it to updates?
[18:37] <infinity> Yep.
[18:38] <infinity> seb128: Done.
[18:38] <seb128> infinity, thanks
[18:39] <seb128> infinity, do you guys pocket copy to t or should we do uploads there?
[18:40] <infinity> seb128: I can do the copy in this case, if there's no T upload planned.
[18:40] <seb128> infinity, that would be great ;-)
[18:41] <infinity> Done.
[18:49] <bdmurray> seb128: I'm confused about the indicator-datetime upload and bug 1233176
[18:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1233176 in Ubuntu Clock App "Alarm notifications do not appear when an alarm is triggered" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233176
[18:50] <seb128> bdmurray, https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-datetime/trunk.13.10
[18:50] <seb128> bdmurray, the change was reverted from the stable branch since it was not suitable for it, but the daily landing doesn't know how to delete changelog entries when that happens I guess
[18:52] <bdmurray> So then the janitor will close the saucy task although it hasn't been fixed.
[18:53] <seb128> bdmurray, we can re-open, or do you prefer another upload?
[18:53] <seb128> cyphermox, ^
[18:54] <bdmurray> seb128: I think another upload would be the cleanest solution
[18:56] <cyphermox> bdmurray: agree
[18:56] <cyphermox> I'll do a manual upload that fixes this
[18:56] <seb128> bdmurray, what cyphermox said ;-)
[18:56] <cyphermox> that's going to be fun :)
[18:56] <bdmurray> cyphermox: thanks, let me know and I'll review it straight away
[18:58] <cyphermox> bdmurray: same version number, right?
[18:58] <cyphermox> it wasn't accepted into proposed yet?
[18:58] <bdmurray> cyphermox: no, it wasn't accepted
[18:59] <cyphermox> alright
[19:04] <cyphermox> bdmurray: ^
[20:40] <lamont> oh hai
[20:40] <lamont> infinity: (et al): how horrific are the windows if I just want to manually run the script that the publisher run triggers for the archive?
[20:41] <cjwatson> JFDI, it locks
[20:41] <lamont> \o/
[20:41] <cjwatson> It tries to run every five minutes, 3 and 8
[20:41] <lamont> ta
[20:41] <cjwatson> You can stop it for a bit in lp_publish's crontab if you like
[20:41] <lamont> atm, it's vweeping at me because awk runs for apparently forever
[20:41] <cjwatson> awk?!
[20:42] <lamont> 1001     21411 99.2  1.2  81244 74508 ?        R    20:39   2:32  \_ awk { x[$1]=1} END { for (v in x) { print v }} filelists/2013-10-26-20-37-...
[20:42] <lamont> trust me.... after you shook your head and pondered, you'd say "yeah, that makes sense"
[20:42] <lamont> most of that whole thing is like that
[20:43] <cjwatson> Oh, this is your stuff not in the publisher
[20:43] <lamont> yep
[20:43] <cjwatson> k
[20:59] <lamont> I see what I did there
[21:41] <lamont> cjwatson: infinity I'm wondering just when we switched over to the publisher running every 5 instead of every 30
[21:43] <cjwatson> lamont: It was this summer, around the time of the releng sprint, IIRC
[21:43] <cjwatson> Maybe a bit earlier?
[21:43] <stgraber> I'd have said a couple weeks before the sprint
[21:43] <stgraber> so early July ish
[21:44] <cjwatson> timestamp: Wed 2013-07-03 07:03:00 +0000
[21:44] <cjwatson> message:
[21:44] <cjwatson>   [adconrad,r=gnuoy] Attempt to run the publisher every five minutes instead of every thirty (lp:~adconrad/lp-production-crontabs/faster-publisher into lp:lp-production-crontabs)
[21:44] <cjwatson> lp-production-crontabs r792
[21:47] <lamont> right.  I'll work though the rest of what that means to the mirrormagic...
[21:48] <lamont> 6 times the files, and 1/6th the time to do it in ... amusing is one word for it
[21:49] <lamont> but anyway, it'll help make the evening more interesting
[21:49] <cjwatson> It won't actually run every five minutes
[21:49] <cjwatson> It just tries
[21:50] <cjwatson> I mean, it sometimes has a runtime under 5min, but only if it doesn't have any release pockets to publish
[21:50] <lamont> yeah, the stay of execution code is a touch more resilient
[21:51] <lamont> 71 cpu minutes, and we're almost 10% of the way through
[21:51] <lamont> lets just say there's room for improvement


[02:54] <twb> I'm installing preseeded 9.04 desktop using debian-installer, from a USB key.
[02:54] <twb> Unlike 8.04, it is complaining about the USB key being mounted.
[02:55] <twb> That is, it asks if I want to unmount the USB key.
[02:55] <twb> Can I preseed the answer to this question to "no"?  If so, what is the variable to preseed?
[10:50] <CIA-66> ubiquity: Mario Limonciello <supermario@dell-laptop> * rsupermario@dell-laptop-20090529094613-8colht50sw0pf37l ubiquity/debian/ (6 files):
[10:50] <CIA-66> ubiquity: Drop custom recipe for Mythbuntu as XFS will no longer be necessary
[10:50] <CIA-66> ubiquity: for recordings with switching to ext4.
[10:52] <CIA-66> ubiquity: superm1 * rsupermario@dell-laptop-20090529094613-8colht50sw0pf37l ubiquity/debian/ (6 files):
[10:52] <CIA-66> ubiquity: Drop custom recipe for Mythbuntu as XFS will no longer be necessary
[10:52] <CIA-66> ubiquity: for recordings with switching to ext4.
[10:54] <superm1> whoops, looks like cia submitted twice
[15:36] <lfaraone> evand: Does the future branch work currently under Jaunty? I'm trying to figure out if it's something I'm doing in the changes I've made, or if it just doesn't work as is.
[15:37] <evand> It should
[15:37] <evand> though admittedly I just cowboyed that in
[15:38] <lfaraone> evand: hm. for me, it crashes hal. i'll try it again rolling back my changes.
[15:39] <evand> I unfortunately don't have sufficient time to look into it, as I'm at UDS
[15:40] <evand> but if it's still causing problems I can take a closer look on Monday
[15:40] <lfaraone> evand: k, i'll ping you then.
[15:40]  * lfaraone hopes to be able to go to the next UDS, he can't make Europe.
[15:41] <evand> east coast US is next, assuming we stick to the pattern
[15:41] <evand> very excited for that
[16:15] <CIA-66> casper: cjwatson * r627 trunk/ (debian/changelog scripts/casper-bottom/25configure_init): Fix symlinking of anacron to /bin/true.


[23:23] <bittergeek> I'm running LTSP5 on Ubuntu 9.05. It's working but I'd like to know how I can set things up so that user sessions persist after a thin client is power cycled.
[23:23] <cashmeer> hello...everyone...wanted to know if anyone has had any luck syncing a winmo 6.1 phone with the software included in the OS
[23:23] <reen> sry for asking again. i cant get my middle mouse to work in 9.04. all the other 11 buttons are running. any idea?
[23:23] <reen> with my mx1000
[23:24] <shew> Anyone having evolution crashing with:  (evolution:18122): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_base64_encode: assertion `len > 0' failed
[23:24] <shew> ?
[23:24] <cashmeer> also, why is it called ubuntu?
[23:24] <jdu> bittergeek: you should probably look into handling that within the desktop environment settings.
[23:24] <ahmed---->  i have this error in every package i intend to install E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:24] <ahmed----> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[23:24] <RobLoach> Argh, ATI Catalyst Drivers in Jaunty don't have mutli monitor support.
[23:24] <jake> got it - how do i list detected wireless networks?
[23:24] <Killeroid> mattgyver: iirc, it should be /etc/network/interfaces
[23:24] <shew> Evolution crash under 9.04 that is.
[23:25] <reen> jake: airodump-ng <device> ;)
[23:25] <Anacranom> RobLoach, june or july ATI is releasing new drivers for linux that will support both compiz and dual-monitors
[23:25] <jdu> bittergeek: what desktop environments are the clients running?
[23:25] <carthik> ty reen, that's from 2006. I really appreciate your willingness to help :) cheers
[23:26] <bittergeek> Gnome
[23:26] <RobLoach> Anacranom: June or July? Christ...... I'm going NVidia.
[23:26] <jake> reen: no other way?
[23:26] <Killeroid> mattgyver: then restart the networking service and try again. you should be able to configure your network from network manager
[23:26] <bittergeek> LDM specifically
[23:26] <Clyde> hy all
[23:26] <mattgyver> Killeroid, i dont see iirc anywhere, i do see the interfaces file.  Thats the one your suggesting to delete?
[23:27] <Killeroid> mattgyver: lol, sorry, iirc is an acronym meanning if i recall correctly
[23:27] <jdu> bittergeek: so you want the clients to be able to log out and then get back to the programs they were just at?
[23:27] <kryle> hey everyone, is this ubuntu chat?
[23:27] <mattgyver> oh duh, okay
[23:27] <cashmeer> kryle, it is supposed to be
[23:27] <kryle> cool
[23:27] <cashmeer> why is it called ubuntu
[23:27] <mattgyver> let me delete, restart network and reconfigure, let you know in a sec
[23:28] <Anacranom> RobLoach, i use nothing but nvidia, but i work in the linux dept at HP, work with the ATI devs on loan to us for linux and windows development
[23:28] <reen> jake: wlanconfig ath0 list ap or iwlist ath0 sc or kismet ^^
[23:28] <tim__b> hmm anyone having problems with installing 9.04 32bit from alternate cd, too? after about 1 minute from booting the cd the screen turns black on my hp compaq 6710b and nothing happens... already checked the cds md5, seems to be fine.
[23:28] <buyaka> do any of the repositories have awesomewm?
[23:28] <Drachenjaeger> hail the fuhrer!
[23:28] <reen> substitute ath0 with your device
[23:28] <janisozaur> how can i enter raw character codes in QT application? (i use scim - raw code fot gtk, but doesn't seem to work in QT)
[23:28] <losher> cashmeer: ubuntu is latin for 'I have not read the faq'
[23:28] <bittergeek> I used to work for Sun. We had thin clients called SunRays. What you could do with them is "hot desk" where if you disconnected the thin client, you can get the session back you were using before the disconnection.
[23:28] <cougarten> how to bann ppl like Drachenjaeger ? can one vote for it?
[23:28] <cashmeer> ubuntu is latin for I have not read the FAQ?
[23:29] <Random2> Does anyone know where I would find information about GRUB and 'error 22' that arises from it?
[23:29] <cashmeer> ubunto
[23:29] <kryle> could anyone help me to share my internet connection to a other computer ?
[23:29] <Clyde> where can i find a list of channels @ free-node ?
[23:29] <Drachenjaeger> HAIL THE KAISER!!!
[23:29] <cashmeer> ubunto, ubunto, unbuntus, unbuntamos
[23:29] <lstarnes> Clyde: which client are you using?
[23:29] <reen> kryle: set ip forwarding
[23:29] <Clyde> pidgin
[23:29] <yellowglory> what is the point to downlaod a file if i just type install in the command line anyways ?
[23:29] <waterpie> hi all
[23:29] <Random2> hi waterpie
[23:29] <lstarnes> Clyde: most clients have a cvhannel listing feature, but pidgin doesn't afaik
[23:29] <waterpie> q: 1 of 2 disks in sw raid1, i take it out, put it in external usb case, and want to use it alone in another pc. dmesg sees the usb device, but not a mass_storage. it is not associated with a /dev/ Any ideas what to do to mount it?
[23:30] <Clyde> i'm asking because i want a list of all the channels at free-node
[23:30] <jdu> cashmeer: in the ubuntu Examples directory, Nelson Mandela speaks about ubuntu a bit.  It is a African word.
[23:30] <Clyde> i understand..but an internet page something ?
[23:30] <AakashPatel> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/notify-osd-screenshot.png
[23:30] <lstarnes> Clyde: it's freenode, not free-node
[23:30] <AakashPatel> what theme is that?
[23:30] <Clyde> freenode..escuse me :D
[23:30] <cougarten> AakashPatel: darkroom I think
[23:30] <jake> reen: no gui for wireless nets?
[23:30] <lstarnes> Clyde: http:http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode is one online listing.  there is also one somewhere on http://searchirc.com
[23:30] <Clyde> ok, thanks a lot
[23:31] <AakashPatel> cougarten: okay thnaks
[23:31] <PlasmaSheep> My jaunty upgrade f'ed up.
[23:31] <PlasmaSheep> Please help.
[23:31] <andril> hello all - anyone know how i can recover my conkyrc that was deleted?
[23:31] <harpreet> mado: I'm sorry I was having my lunch
[23:31] <PlasmaSheep> After an upgrade (apt-get upgrade) and a reboot, usplash hangs on 'waiting for root filesystem' and then gives me a shell.
[23:31] <kryle> reen: howto? this computer is connected to internet, and i want to share it to the computer next to me, i have ubuntu on that one to, but when i try to connect cable it dont find anything, i think ip is automatic,,
[23:31] <Chaorain> Is there a way I can run this at startup(8.10)? "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/mapper/sil_aeahdfaaagfc1 /raid"
[23:31] <reen> jake: there are guis. the gnome network-manager e.g. dunno on kde
[23:31] <losher> cashmeer: try the first entry that comes up when you type
[23:31] <Random2> #ubuntuforums
[23:31] <jdu> Chaorain: add it to fstab
[23:31] <Random2> ha, noob fail. XD
[23:31] <PlasmaSheep> Chaorain: fstab
[23:31] <cashmeer> I was gonna say that it sounded like some african tribe but I thought I would get kicked out of there
[23:31] <meoblast001> how do i install VOB support?
[23:31] <cashmeer> here
[23:31] <losher> cashmeer: what does ubuntu mean into google
[23:32] <jake> harpreet: why are you sorry you were having your lunch, was there an aphid on the lettuce?
[23:32] <mint3> halo peoples.
[23:32] <Chaorain> where is fstab?
[23:32] <Random2> hi mint3
[23:32] <jake> reen: ok, that's what i was asking - i don't see any
[23:32] <Mint`> Hey random
[23:32] <PlasmaSheep> After an upgrade (apt-get upgrade) and a reboot, usplash hangs on 'waiting for root filesystem' and then gives me a shell.
[23:32] <jdu> Chaorain:  /etc/fstab   It can't go in that exact format though.
[23:32] <cashmeer> I'll do that...losher, but I think y'all need a better name...
[23:32] <reen> kryle: thats ease. make a new channel i can join and i help you
[23:32] <PlasmaSheep> Please help me.
[23:32] <Mint`> !ask | PlasmaSheep
[23:32] <reen> jake: is youre card up and running
[23:32] <jdu> Chaorain: I mean the syntax is different than the mount command.
[23:32] <harpreet> jake: mado asked a question and i was away! sorry about lunch because i have to eat when a lot of people cant afford
[23:32] <Clyde> be right back
[23:32] <Biggem> hey.. can anyone help me out, my bluetooth mouse/keyboard isn't working in Ubuntu 9.04
[23:32] <PlasmaSheep> Mint`: I already asked. Twice.
[23:32] <losher> cashmeer: feel free to start your own distribution. That's what everyone else does
[23:33] <AakashPatel> anyone tyr jaunty on MBP 4,1?
[23:33] <AakashPatel> try*
[23:33] <kryle> reen: ./j #kryle
[23:33] <cashmeer> Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what I am because of who we all are'.
[23:33] <jake> reen: that's what i'm trying to figure how.  just f'd with b43 firmware for hte last hour
[23:33] <neal_> i just upgraded to the latest version of ubuntu, I have a dual monitor set up with separate xscreens, but application will only open on one of my monitors, even if i open the app on the other
[23:33] <neal_> any ideas
[23:33] <jake> harpreet:  haha, fair enough
[23:33] <Chaorain> jdu, Can you give me an example?
[23:33] <jake> reen: err, figure OUT
[23:33] <PlasmaSheep> After an upgrade (apt-get upgrade) and a reboot, usplash hangs on 'waiting for root filesystem' and then gives me a shell.
[23:33] <Biggem> hey.. can anyone help me out, my bluetooth mouse/keyboard isn't working in Ubuntu 9.04
[23:33] <reen> jake: got it?
[23:33] <waterpie> q: 1 of 2 disks in sw raid1, i take it out, put it in external usb case, and want to use it alone in another pc. dmesg sees the usb device, but not a mass_storage. it is not associated with a /dev/ Any ideas what to do to mount it?
[23:34] <jake> PlasmaSheep: do you have a usb flash plugged in? that causes me to hang tosmetimes
[23:34] <jake> reen: i THINK so, now the wireless button works
[23:34] <jake> reen: maybe just none int he area
[23:34] <neo644> Are the servers better today or are they still slow?
[23:34] <PlasmaSheep> jake: No. Just a mouse and a wacom tablet (never caused me trouble before)
[23:34] <cashmeer> how about zulumu
[23:34] <losher> PlasmaSheep: I would boot up the live cd and check the entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[23:34] <Random2> Could anyone help a noob figure out how to jump channels?
[23:34] <Biggem> hey.. can anyone help me out, my bluetooth mouse/keyboard isn't working in Ubuntu 9.04
[23:34] <reen> Jake: depends on where you live. not imaginable here in germany ;)
[23:34] <Clyde>  /join ?
[23:35] <jake> random: type /join #channelnamehere
[23:35] <cougarten> wow, congratz on the dual-mon support. works out of the box and used to be  such a pain in the axt
[23:35] <Random2> ok, thanks
[23:35] <jdu> bittergeek: I am not sure of anything quite like that.  I know xfce and some other desktop environments have good support for restoring environments after relogging in.
[23:35] <jake> reen: heh
[23:35] <PlasmaSheep> losher: check for what?
[23:35] <attila_> !sources
[23:35] <jdu> Chaorain: sorry.   What was the mount command again?
[23:35] <cougarten> reen: whats not imaginable iin germany?
[23:35] <jordanl> OSS works, but alsa and pulseaudio playback broke for me after upgrading to 9.04. can anyone help me out (i'm not a newbie)
[23:35] <Chaorain> jdu, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/mapper/sil_aeahdfaaagfc1 /raid
[23:35] <PlasmaSheep> losher: check for what?
[23:36] <Chaorain> jdu, got it from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678315
[23:36] <losher> PlasmaSheep: there should be a line beginning with 'kernel'. It names the root partition by uuid. You need to check that the uuid is correct
[23:36] <jake> reen: what a bitch it was
[23:36] <ReleaseX> Does anyone have experience setting up 4.1 surround?
[23:36] <budm> I have an NFS problem; a shared user folder belonging to group "coders", coders have r+x on the folder, my user is a member of coders, but I cannot step into it. It's NFS mounted.
[23:36] <reen> cougarten: not receiving any wlans^^
[23:37] <PlasmaSheep> losher: It says something along the lines (at startup) that the uuid of the root partition is wrong. What should I do if the uuid is incorrect?
[23:37] <bittergeek> What happens is that I power cycle the thin client and the session is lost. Is there any way of getting it back?
[23:37] <thebloggu> can someone help me ? my pidgin icon doesnt show up in stalonetray. i am using openbox and everything seems fine
[23:37] <cashmeer> y'all take care....
[23:37] <cashmeer> ubuntu!
[23:37] <Bo7> Is there a simple console webbrowser for ubuntu?
[23:37] <reen> jake: what ya mean
[23:37] <AakashPatel> hm...anyone in here used leopard ever?
[23:38] <yoasif> AakashPatel: sure
[23:38] <neal_> lynx
[23:38] <losher> PlasmaSheep: you must find the correct uuid and edit it into the file where it says 'kernel....root=UUID=<some uuid> ro quiet splash'
[23:38] <clyde_> name clyde
[23:38] <jake> reen: the b43xx firmware
[23:38] <neal_> Bo7, lynx
[23:38] <AakashPatel> yoasif did you like it?
[23:38] <yoasif> Bo7: links, xlinks, links2, xlinks2
[23:38] <jake> reen:  it was obstinant
[23:38] <Bo7> thx neal_
[23:38] <yoasif> AakashPatel: nice OS
[23:38] <waterpie> ok,thanks,bye
[23:38] <PlasmaSheep> losher: how would I find the right uuid?
[23:38] <thebloggu> can someone help me ? my pidgin icon doesnt show up in stalonetray. i am using openbox and everything seems fine
[23:38] <AakashPatel> yoasif i cant make up my mind if i should swtich to ubuntu or not
[23:38] <jdu> Chaorain: ok.   so the line in fstab would be:  /dev/<correct device>  /raid  ntfs-3g  <options> 0 0       where options would be stuff like rw,user,noauto
[23:38] <mrwes> PlasmaSheep, blkid
[23:39] <yoasif> AakashPatel: from what?
[23:39] <meoblast001> how do i install VOB support?
[23:39] <AakashPatel> yoasif os x
[23:39] <AakashPatel> 10.5.6
[23:39] <PlasmaSheep> thank you all. I'll come back when I have got the live cd and tried that.
[23:39] <Tortured> AakashPatel: i wouldnt switch id partition and try both ... ive got em running on a macbook 2,1
[23:39] <yoasif> AakashPatel: i wouldnt bother unless you don't want to pay apple for upgrades. you could do a dual boot too
[23:39] <neo644> Wow, the servers are much better.
[23:39] <doleyb> meoblast001: medibuntu
[23:39] <Kr0ntab> meoblast001: DVD support should be activated by default.  Are you referring to encrypted DVD's?
[23:40] <clyde_> someone say my name
[23:40] <jpds> neo644: Which?
[23:40] <AakashPatel> yoasif ah so there isnt really anything specials
[23:40] <yoasif> clyde_:
[23:40] <AakashPatel> special*
[23:40] <meoblast001> Kr0ntab, no.. i'm trying to use Kdenlive and it has a X written over DVD exporting
[23:40] <fspilot> :/
[23:40] <clyde_> ok thanks
[23:40] <losher> PlasmaSheep: the command vol_id <partition> will tell you the uuid...
[23:40] <Chaorain> jdu, thanks
[23:40] <neo644> or wait, im just downloading the files that failed to download on my previous attempt to upgrade
[23:40] <clyde_> clyde_
[23:40] <mrwes> PlasmaSheep, blkid from the termiinal will give you uuid
[23:40] <Kr0ntab> oic
[23:40] <yoasif> AakashPatel: depends on what you're interested in doing.
[23:40] <clyde_> clyde_n
[23:40] <clyde_> hm
[23:41] <clyde_> tell my name again..last time
[23:41] <yoasif> clyde_:
[23:41] <Spikius> hi guys.. have a question.. where do i find notify-osd settings? In System > preferences and System > Admin.. i cant see anything like that
[23:41] <AakashPatel> hm
[23:41] <losher> PlasmaSheep: mrwes is right, blkid is better than vol_id
[23:41] <clyde_> ok thanks again
[23:41] <jdu> Choarain,  but you want probably do not want noauto as an option as you said you wanted to be automatic on boot.
[23:41] <neo644> jpds: the download servers appear to be a bit better
[23:41] <PlasmaSheep> OK.
[23:41] <jake> SWEET - FUCKING kismet worked
[23:41] <jake> thanks
[23:41] <AakashPatel> ill stick with OS X..it hasnt gaven me any problems
[23:41] <jake> sorry about the swears
[23:41] <FloodBot1> jake: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <jake> thanks reen
[23:41] <yoasif> Spikius: no settings available for the notifications
[23:41] <losher> PlasmaSheep: You may have to make an inspired guess about which is the root partitiion though
[23:41] <jake> gotta go
[23:42] <mark_> Anyone here able to configure the jaunty xorg xserver with an ati driver and compiz?
[23:42] <FloridaGuy> i just upgraded 8.10 to 9.04...still runing ext3 ...is there any difference in ext4
[23:42] <PlasmaSheep> losher: Is there a general guidline on how it's done?
[23:42] <Spikius> yoasif, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#Bubble%20appearance%20and%20layout
[23:42] <mrwes> PlasmaSheep, try doing a sudo fdisk -l (lower case L) it'll show you the root/boot partition
[23:42] <Spikius> i wonder...
[23:42] <PlasmaSheep> mrwes: thanks.
[23:43] <mrwes> PlasmaSheep, /dev/sda1   *           1        1231     9887976   83  Linux
[23:43] <mrwes>    the * means it's the boot partition
[23:43] <reen> jake: um what sry
[23:43] <PlasmaSheep> Thanks.
[23:43] <zamba> i need a paravirtual installer for ubuntu.. i want to run it in xen
[23:43] <cougarten> how long shall I give my computer to shutdown? last message is "Check battery state [ OK ] and now nothing happens any more
[23:43] <losher> PlasmaSheep: I don't know of a good one. You could spend months reading web pages about grub and booting...
[23:43] <neal_> can someone give me a hand getting dual monitor support working?
[23:43] <jdu> zamba: I didn't think ubuntu supported xen very well.
[23:44] <cougarten> neal_: istalled rstricted drivers yet?
[23:44] <meoblast001> it is urgent i be able to burn DVDs
[23:44] <oz1> iamlost: are you here
[23:44] <PlasmaSheep> wow, downloading the iso from bittorrent takes 15 minutes.
[23:44] <yoasif> meoblast001: you aren't able to burn dvds?
[23:44] <jimmyyeah> hi - is it possible to apt-get install a .deb with just a link? e.g. http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/pool/restricted/3/3ware-3dm2-binary-i386/3ware-3dm2-binary_<IP_ADDRESS>-1duo1_i386.deb
[23:44] <adnc> hello, after upgrading to 9.04 compiz doesnt work anymore. has anyone got an idea what the problem could be
[23:44] <meoblast001> yoasif, KDenLive won't let me
[23:44] <neal_> cougarten, yes, and the second montor shows a separate xwindow as it should but when i try to launch an app it shows up on the other monitor
[23:44] <harpreet> jimmyyeah: yes
[23:44] <braintorch> I have a question: does anybody know how to change a color of notify messages?
[23:45] <hotdog> is there a way to run the zune software?
[23:45] <yoasif> meoblast001: file a bug report on launchpad.net
[23:45] <yoasif> hotdog: no
[23:45] <losher> meoblast001: use k3b or brasero or growisofs
[23:45] <mrwes> PlasmaSheep, torrent IS the only way to go :)
[23:45] <jdu> jimmyyeah: wget <link> && dpkg -i <name>
[23:45] <PlasmaSheep> meoblast001: I prefer brasero (on gnome)
[23:45] <meoblast001> losher, K3B sucks at it.... if you want to make an ISO it excludes sound
[23:45] <thunder-storm> hello, somebody knows a tool to check my video-ram on the graphics card?
[23:45] <zakidine> wouahhhhhhhh
[23:45] <cougarten> neal_: sry, just ran into a huge problam and ave to try to solve that
[23:45] <Mike94287> Is there a way to set a custom screen resolution in Jaunty?
[23:45] <zakidine> firefox beug sur ubuntu pire que sur windows !!!
[23:45] <mrwes> K3B sucks? since when?
[23:45] <yoasif> meoblast001: while you try to fix it, file a bug report, someone may be able to help you on launchpad as well
[23:46] <harpreet> my firefox doesnt play yahoo videos anymore Jaunty
[23:46] <zakidine> allez chercher pourquoi ....
[23:46] <yoasif> harpreet: tried reinstalling flash?
[23:46] <cactaur> Is wubi included in the Desktop CD? Or do you have to download it separately?
[23:46] <meoblast001> PlasmaSheep, It is not possible to write with the current set of plugins
[23:46] <harpreet> yoasif: yes
[23:46] <h00k> caci, wubi is included in the CD
[23:46] <zakidine> yoasif,  pas tout le monde est sur la nouvelle version
[23:46] <yoasif> !fr | zakidine
[23:46] <zakidine> donc le flash 10 marche pas pour tout le monde
[23:46] <losher> meoblast001: I suspect when you say 'burn a DVD' you really mean 'author a DVD' in which case linux does not have the best apps
[23:47] <zakidine> ahh erf !!
[23:47] <meoblast001> losher, yes
[23:47] <cactaur> Thanks
[23:47] <zakidine> sorry, wrong window
[23:47] <grimmus> I upgraded to Jaunty using synaptic, and my sound stopped working.  Is this a common problem with a known solution?  I have not found answers with google
[23:47] <h00k> losher, there are plenty of apps for DVD authoring
[23:47] <meoblast001> losher, kdenlive can do it well if i have the freaking libraries
[23:47] <xmrkite> hello, does anyone know of a good way to backup an entire hard drive to DVD's in a catalog type fashion?
[23:47] <Mike94287> Is there a way to set a custom screen resolution in Jaunty?
[23:47] <wolter> my usb mouse doesn't work, but is detected by lsusb!!
[23:47] <wolter> help
[23:47] <yoasif> !xorg | wolter
[23:47] <georgep> on the main panel in ubuntu, whats the aplet called that makes up ur task manager next to the clock?
[23:48] <losher> hook: I never found one I liked. I have to run nero under vmware to author dvds
[23:48] <yoasif> sorry, that was for Mike94287
[23:48] <mrwes> losher, K9copy will rip and create a DVD iso (inlcuding shrinking it)
[23:48] <cougarten> after the bootsplash I get "...fail" and later some "no block devices found" errors. any Idea?
[23:48] <andersbr> Is there an ideal size for a jpg so it would print out and take up the entire page?  (not sure of the best room to ask)
[23:48] <phisher1> grimmus: notification area
[23:48] <neo644> georgep, notification area
[23:48] <h00k> losher, brasero, k9copy, k3b, etc.
[23:48] <mrwes> losher, and will out fail
[23:48] <yoasif> georgep: notifications area?
[23:48] <jdu> xmrkite: the entire hard drive or just the home partition?
[23:48] <jueliah> guys, any polished instrant msg to suggest?
[23:48] <lu6cifer> for some reason, during my jaunty upgrade proces, there are some packages that ubuntu can't download...is this due to the currently high amount of traffic on their servers? or something else?
[23:48] <mrwes> losher, K9copy will shrink DVD9 to DVD5 for ya
[23:48] <xmrkite> jdu, the whole hard drive
[23:49] <cougarten> than it tries to resuma an image but does not find one
[23:49] <xmrkite> not my boot partition
[23:49] <xmrkite> separate hard drive
[23:49] <yoasif> !slow | lu6cifer
[23:49] <georgep> no because i added it and i dont see my tasks like the compiz icon there
[23:49] <losher> meoblast001: I suspect kdenlive fails because of ffmpeg. If so, the only cure I know of is to build ffmpeg from source
[23:49] <lu6cifer> ok
[23:49] <grimmus> phisher1: what do you mean?
[23:49] <meoblast001> losher, i did build it from source with lots of encoders
[23:50] <phisher1> georgep ^
[23:50] <phisher1> not grimmus
[23:50] <mrwes> losher, is that ffmeg from mediabuntu or the repos?
[23:50] <losher> meoblast001: so do you know which codec is missing?
[23:50] <jdu> xmrkite: probably it would be more efficent to take an image of the hard drive and save it to another larger hard drive.
[23:50] <meoblast001> losher, nope
[23:50] <phisher1> that hard to follow that?
[23:50] <budm> fucking ubuntu
[23:50] <mrwes> !
[23:50] <h00k> !language | budm
[23:50] <neo644> georgep: Try logging out and back in
[23:50] <Nalf> Anyone know if the us servers are still slow?
[23:50] <jdu> xmrkite: you could compress it in the process.
[23:50] <xmrkite> jdu: ya, but then i'd have to buy a new drive
[23:50] <georgep> k
[23:50] <Mint`> !language | budm
[23:50] <neo644> budm: That was not very nice.
[23:50] <Mint`> budm,  do not use foul language mate.
[23:51] <budm> apologies, it's 1am and I'm stressed.
[23:51] <xmrkite> i want to do this for backup purposes
[23:51] <h00k> !ask | budm
[23:51] <Champain> is there a way to setup a static ip without going into the terminal?
[23:51] <losher> meoblast001: sigh, then I don't see how we can go about fixing it
[23:51] <Mint`> budm, whats the stress?
[23:51] <Mike94287> yoasif: when I ran 'xrandr --addmode S-video 1200x900' trying to add a new screen resolution, I got the error 'cannot find output "s-video"'
[23:51] <jdu> xmrkite: personally, dvds are not really a good back up solution.  They are slow, small for large amounts of data, and not reusable.
[23:51] <neo644> Nalf: They are still pretty slow like 65kB/s
[23:52] <neo644> max
[23:52] <deface> anyone else getting failed notifications when synching?
[23:52] <budm> "--manage-gids" in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server RPCMOUNTDOPTS is not working.
[23:52] <deface> using jaunty
[23:52] <meoblast001> where can i get libamrnb
[23:52] <cougarten> On boot I get "unable to start /sbin/klogd: Permission denied." system does not boot any more
[23:52] <losher> mrwes: I don't recall where it came from. It's ffmpeg-0.cvs20070307. The trick was the options to configure
[23:52] <xmrkite> jdu: i know, but is there a way? They're very cheap, so that's the main thing. I could do a dvd backup each week of the drive and put it on maybe 20 DVD's and then just do that each week
[23:52] <cougarten> some other things fail too
[23:52] <xmrkite> jdu: otherwise i have to get a bunch of hard drives to keep these backups
[23:52] <budm> I have 10 other non ubuntu boxes that work fine out of the box with nfs groups.
[23:52] <deface> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Releas
[23:52] <matrix_> every movie that i play on vlc every 10 sec it hangs the movies are choopy is something wrong with my vlc
[23:52] <blah569> Might the new compiz (Ubuntu 9.04) support some of the Intel Chipsets soon?
[23:53] <antibody> hello is there any flash plugin for firefox that has pulseaudio support? I came accross a 10.0 version that did and the stream appeared in pavucontrol however I didn't have subtitles in the video I was seeing so I had to revert to ubuntus repo one(i'm running 64 bits btw)7
[23:53] <yoasif> Mike94287: i don't know anything about that, if you can't find help here, i would check out ubuntuforums.org
[23:53] <russianzilla> Hey, this is a random question, but after updating to Jaunty, has anyone else noticed that the menus are all wider?
[23:53] <Mint`> budm, there must be a way, dont stress out. someone here will be able to help you. patience and good virtue is all u need son.
[23:53] <antibody> I'm always having problems with pulse audio+skype :S
[23:53] <crdlb> russianzilla: are you referring to the fact that the space where icons and check/radio boxes go is always there?
[23:53] <Mike94287> yoasif: Okay
[23:53] <Mike94287> When I ran 'xrandr --addmode S-video 1200x900' trying to add a new screen resolution, I got the error 'cannot find output "s-video"' can anyone help me?
[23:53] <cougarten> On boot I get "unable to start /sbin/klogd: Permission denied." system does not boot any more (just a few more fails and than it promts for the login in the commandline but that doesnt get me anywherre either))
[23:53] <crdlb> russianzilla: if so, that was an intentional change in gtk+
[23:54] <h00k> antibody, yeah, that is a common problem, can you route it through one of the HW options?
[23:54] <gvfaewgrg> hello.. big 9.04 boot problem: after i activated the ATI drivers (fglrx) i guess, after my system boots i get a weird looking image on my monitor... i guess it's becouse of my monitor (didn't happpen with 8.10)
[23:54] <jdu> xmrkite: I am sure there is a way.  You could for example make images of different parts of the hard drive and then burn them each individually.
[23:54] <calvinps> Hello
[23:54] <calvinps> :)
[23:54] <russianzilla> crdlb: I mean that the space following program names/option names/ etc has gotten wider
[23:54] <russianzilla> I'm just wondering if it was intentional or an upgrade error.
[23:54] <matrix_> every movie that i play on vlc every 10 sec it hangs the movies are choopy is something wrong with my vlc
[23:54] <gvfaewgrg> and i've seen that the keyboard shortcuts for changing the resolution don't work anymore
[23:54] <jdu> xmrkite: perhaps a better solution would be a software based remote backup program that would optimize your backups by hard linking repeated files.
[23:54] <xmrkite> jdu: what's i'm hoping for (in a perfect world) is to find some program where i can tell it to burn directory x and then it just starts up and brings up insert next disc prompts
[23:55] <crdlb> russianzilla: how much are we talking about?
[23:55] <gvfaewgrg> help, please :(
[23:55] <losher> cougarten: that's very screwed up. Was this an upgrade?
[23:55] <Exposure> I'm having a major problem with NetworkManager on jaunty: impl_manager_activate_connection(): Connection (0) /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate: (3) No user settings service available
[23:55] <blah569> Ubuntu 9.04's performance is also a little slower for me.
[23:55] <yoasif> gvfaewgrg: file a bug report on launchpad.net for hotkey-setup, and mention that it is a regression from ibex
[23:55] <losher> blah569: me too, haven't measured it tho'
[23:55] <Exposure> anyone know which 'user settings service' it could be?
[23:55] <cougarten> losher: no, fresh  install on ext4 with encrypted home
[23:56] <cougarten> losher: it wasn't to much pain to reinstall now, but I don't waant that to be happening again
[23:56] <blah569> losher:  It feels laggy for me.  This isn't my primary computing environment though,  I just use this notebook for testing.
[23:56] <blah569> Winblows runs a little faster on this computer.
[23:56] <matrix_> every movie that i play on vlc every 10 sec it hangs the movies are choopy is something wrong with my vlc
[23:56] <russianzilla> crdlb: A little under half an inch
[23:56] <jdu> xmrkite: part of the problem is that you are trying to spread a file system over multiple disks, so it needs to be done in a logical manner.  Eg. ~ on one disk etc.  You could write a script that uses genisoimage or something like that and then wodim.
[23:56] <losher> cougarten: very brave of you. All I can tell you is that a fresh unencrypted install on ext3 went smoothly for me...
[23:56] <yoasif> blah569: install lxde and install some lighter apps ;)
[23:56] <minimec> gvfaewgrg: Boot in recovery mode... choose 'root', then 1.) apt-get remove fglrx* 2.) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 3.) reboot
[23:57] <matrix_> every movie that i play on vlc every 10 sec it hangs the movies are choopy is something wrong with my vlc
[23:57] <cougarten> losher: the strange thing is: It worked for 2 boots!
[23:57] <matrix_> can anyone help me hello
[23:57] <blah569> yoasif:  I'm not running anything major at the moment, just Pidgin and Firefox.  D:
[23:57] <amgarchIn9> how do I change password for the "keyring" it is apparently not the same as system password?
[23:57] <h00k> matrix_, do you have drivers installed for your hraphics card/
[23:57] <TheDracle> matrix_, What does xvinfo say?
[23:57] <grimmus> anyone experience any problems with sound after jaunty upgrade?
[23:57] <gvfaewgrg> fresh (studio flavor) 9.04 installed, my resolution gets all messed-up after upgrading to ATI drivers, can't see anything... and i should file a bug report!? i can't see anything! random colours
[23:57] <xmrkite> jdu: i guess i may have mistated the original requirement. This is not so much that i want to backup a filesystem, but moreso that i want to backup a directory of important files that just happen to be on a separate hard drive in my system. I'll want to back them up probably each month or so.
[23:57] <crdlb> russianzilla: that's about what I have here, I guess
[23:58] <russianzilla> Alright
[23:58] <yoasif> gvfaewgrg: are the ati drivers from the repos?
[23:58] <russianzilla> crdlb: Probably just my ocd, then.
[23:58] <matrix_> h00k: you mean nvidia drivers
[23:58] <gvfaewgrg> yes they are
[23:58] <yoasif> gvfaewgrg: then yes, report a bug
[23:58] <Mike94287> When I ran 'xrandr --addmode S-video 1200x900' trying to add a new screen resolution, I got the error 'cannot find output "s-video"' can anyone help me?
[23:58] <losher> cougarten: even worse, that implies the ext4 has corrupted something. Given how new that is, and that /home has nothing to do with /sbin, I'd say you've found an ext4 bug.
[23:58] <h00k> matrix_, yes, you have those installed and activated?
[23:58] <gvfaewgrg> my monitor is old(er) and i guess it doesn't handle the default resolution/refresh
[23:58] <TheDracle> matrix_, You need some driver capable of the xvideo extension- or else video will all be done in software.
[23:59] <minimec> gvfaewgrg: What card do you have?
[23:59] <matrix_> i have nvidia driver installed
[23:59] <h00k> matrix_, is it active?
[23:59] <cougarten> losher: should I keep any log/record and do something with it?
[23:59] <matrix_> dunno
[23:59] <Firefishe> Where may I find information on upgrading from Intrepid to Jaunty?
[23:59] <wall-e> does anyone know how to reinstall ubuntu 9 with out loosing data?
[23:59] <Nullifi3d> o/
[23:59] <cougarten> losher: else I'd just reinstall with ext3 now
[23:59] <jdu> xmrkite: hmm.  and the important files are larger than a single dvd of course.
[23:59] <russianzilla> Oh, also: would anyone happen to know if there's a way to configure notify-osd?
[23:59] <matrix_> h00k: how can i see my nvidia is activated
[23:59] <h00k> matrix_, check out System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers