[00:00] <she_dyed> waterfoul_: maybe we need to figure out why you have to disable lightdm
[00:00] <she_dyed> waterfoul_: when maybe all you need is autologin
[00:01] <waterfoul_> she_dyed I disabled lightdm because I don't need it and it just slows the boot process
[00:01] <waterfoul_> I don't want any display or window manager
[00:01] <she_dyed> yes and it broke something
[00:01] <she_dyed> you need a different approach
[00:01] <she_dyed> so it goes into xbmc immediately
[00:01] <waterfoul_> this approach works in every other linux distro I have used
[00:01] <she_dyed> 99%
[00:02] <ketsemoaaa> Hey Guys. I have ubuntu server with lamp etc and i want to connect it with a domain that i have on goddady . How can i set up Domain Name Servers?
[00:02] <she_dyed> waterfoul_: any way to see if sound is active somehow
[00:02] <waterfoul_> The only way I know of it so try it in xbmc
[00:03] <she_dyed> like launching some terminal mp3 player (not xbmc)
[00:03] <waterfoul_> sure 1 sec
[00:03] <waterfoul_> lemme get a terminal on the display
[00:03] <she_dyed> ok
[00:03] <she_dyed> you got the idea
[00:03] <avid_fan> Pinkamena_D: Well double-check that you're using the correct UPN. Where I work I found out that even though we can use DNS with a traditional domain name, company.com, the domain was setup with company.local. Stoopid to do I know, but I had no part in that.
[00:04] <Pinkamena_D> ok well I do not understand it at all
[00:04] <she_dyed> avid_fan: thats ok man you're among friends =)
[00:04] <shig> which software can I use in Ubuntu to record videos from a capture card?
[00:04] <Pinkamena_D> but for some reason it says the print share is not accessable just typing domain/user in the box
[00:04] <Pinkamena_D> however, if I just put it through like that its fine
[00:04] <Pinkamena_D> O_o
[00:04] <avid_fan> she_dyed: Well, it's been a hard lesson learned for the folks that did set it up because using .local screws many other things up.
[00:05] <she_dyed> ouch
[00:06] <avid_fan> Pinkamena_D: Is printing direct to the printer not an option?
[00:08] <Pinkamena_D> no, and now it stopped working afgain
[00:09] <Georgi> hello my background is white and I cannot change it if I stop running NAUTILUS and start XFDESKTOP it works fine. What do I do to have it working
[00:10] <Georgi> hello my background is white and I cannot change it if I stop running NAUTILUS and start XFDESKTOP it works fine. What do I do to have it working
[00:11] <she_dyed> Georgi: type man nautilus i think u can start it with --no-desktop so it doesn't ake over so much
[00:11] <she_dyed> take*
[00:11] <waterfoul_> she_dyed know of any test sounds I can use?
[00:11] <Georgi> can you type only the command
[00:11] <she_dyed> any mp3 you have there?
[00:11] <Georgi> I got confused on what to write
[00:12] <she_dyed> man nautilus georgi
[00:13] <Georgi> I did
[00:13] <Georgi> it opens a windows with text
[00:13] <she_dyed> start reading
[00:14] <Georgi> I started it with  --no-desktop still I see black screen
[00:14] <avid_fan> Pinkamena_D: I cannot be 100% certain because I'm doing it remotely, but I added a Windows printer to my linux machine at work. I used my UPN, even when prompted to enter username, domain, and password, I left domain blank and just my<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:15] <cotton> why would i get tons of ksoftirqd/watchdog/migration/kworker threads stacking?  this is on an apache server, box does nothing else.
[00:15] <waterfoul_> she_dyed: I would one. mplayer gives /dev/dsp no such file or directory
[00:15] <waterfoul_> s/would/found/
[00:15] <avid_fan> Pinkamena_D: So if you have access to Active Directory Users & Computers you should be able to double-check that you're using the proper UPN.
[00:15] <jnc> cotton: apache uses worker threads, makes sense.
[00:15] <she_dyed> waterfoul_: no just audio, like aplay something.mp3
[00:16] <cotton> ah ok jnc thanks makes sense
[00:16] <waterfoul_> i did a wav file. I'll do aplay anyway
[00:16] <Georgi> she_dyed so if it is not nautilus can you tell me what it is
[00:16] <she_dyed> mplayer will try everything it has for video as well
[00:16] <jnc> cotton: are these serving i.e. PHP scripted pages?
[00:16] <she_dyed> who said it isnt georgi
[00:16] <Georgi> well it didn't fix a thing
[00:16] <she_dyed> man nautilus
[00:16] <Georgi> yeah
[00:16] <Georgi> wrote it
[00:17] <Georgi> then the --no-desktop part
[00:17] <she_dyed> thats the manual
[00:17] <Georgi> and still no wallpaper
[00:17] <cotton> jnc: yea
[00:17] <cotton> php
[00:17] <jnc> cotton: ok so each access is a new invocation of PHP
[00:17] <shig> which software can I use on Ubuntu to record videos from a capture card?
[00:17] <waterfoul_> aplay gives no audio and no error alsamixer gives cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[00:18] <jnc> cotton: the worker thread is responsible for that thing which returns data to be served
[00:18] <waterfoul_> shig: i've used mythtv successfully in the past but it can be a pain to setup
[00:19]  * cotton jnc: but on my other (100x busier) box, i only have say, 17 of migration/ksoftirqd/watchdog and 38 kworkers
[00:19] <Malgorath> I have 3 video cards, Radeon HD 6870, Nvidia 560ti and a Nvidia 260 GTX. Which would be the better card for a linux box? I'm not going to do much gaming or video stuff on it as I have a Mac for that stuff.
[00:19] <cotton> on the box in question, 40 of those, and 80+ kworkers
[00:19] <jnc> cotton: I forget how, but there are some tweaks you can make to the Linux scheduler to make it less or more aggressive with uh...  for want of a better word, "Cleanup"
[00:19] <cotton> with just a few clients
[00:19] <cotton> ah ok
[00:20] <cotton> just wondering why the extreme difference
[00:20] <cotton> apache is installed similarly on both boxes
[00:20] <shig> waterfoul_, yes it is a pain to setup, tried here... I can get video, but no audio :(
[00:20] <cotton> jnc: i didn't think it was the apache MPM i could be wrong..?  does just that version use kworker threads
[00:20] <waterfoul_> shig what is your card?
[00:21] <jnc> cotton: would have to read more docs to be sure, but that sounds like a good guess to me :)
[00:22] <wisey> what is the latest version of ubuntu that will install to my PowerBook G4?
[00:22] <wisey> it is PPC
[00:22] <jnc> if the scheduler is doing its job correctly, then additional kworker threads aren't really competing for resources
[00:23] <waterfoul_> wisey it looks like the latest will install but you milage may vary, look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[00:23] <jnc> wisey: maybe, PPC is like m68k... better left in a museum?
[00:23] <wisey> lol
[00:23] <jnc> I say that fresh with memories of installing Debian Potato on a m68k color classic with "emile" bootloader
[00:23] <she_dyed> or convert to aquarium
[00:24] <jnc> and then I shipped that hardware to france donate to the developer of "emile"
[00:24] <shig> waterfoul_, Bt878 chipset
[00:25] <ketsemoaaa> Hey Guys. I have ubuntu server with lamp etc and i want to connect it with a domain that i have on goddady . How can i set up Domain Name Servers?
[00:26] <avid_fan> ketsemoaaa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto , on how to setup a DNS server with Ubuntu.
[00:26] <Tomcat> Evening everyone. I've an Inspiron 7720. Xubuntu 12.10 see's it's touchpad as a mouse. I've not found a settings file nor anything through google.
[00:26] <Tomcat> It's been like this with Arch, Slackware, Debian,  as well as Ubuntu
[00:27] <avid_fan> ketsemoaaa: Then you'll have to contact your domain registrar, I guess GoDaddy, to let them know the address(es) of the server(s) you setup.
[00:27] <waterfoul_> shig, my google fu isn't turning up any useful guides sadly... I think you are having a driver problem which means that no matter what softwhere you use you will have an audio problem
[00:27] <jnc> ketsemoaaa: you can set up your own DNS server but bet aware that it's only good if someone else trusts enough to request from your server ...   simpler to use another DNS service that lists your address, unless you are going to need more advanced DNS features
[00:27] <fatal_ink> hey
[00:28] <fatal_ink> hello?
[00:28] <jnc> ja
[00:30] <shig> waterfoul_, nooooooo :( well, I'm going to search a bit more on google, thanks!
[00:30] <The_Binary_Man> hey
[00:31] <The_Binary_Man> welcoe
[00:31] <ketsemoaaa> jnc: Where i can find a DNS service that lists my address?
[00:32] <The_Binary_Man> is anyone else here?
[00:32] <The_Binary_Man> srry kets
[00:32] <Tomcat> IP? Shields Up would give you your ip. or what is my ip in google
[00:32] <johnjohn1011> is there way to find out what the compile parameters were for any of the packages that i use?
[00:33] <[SERVER]> Please welcome "pigeonor" to #Ubuntu
[00:33] <[SERVER]> Please welcome "adiaswin" to #Ubuntu
[00:34] <johnjohn1011> hi pigeonor
[00:34] <[SERVER]> Please welcome "R00tD00R" to #Ubuntu
[00:34] <jnc> ketsemoaaa: Typically, when you register a domain name (say with GoDaddy which I recommend against), they provide a DNS service and you edit the simplified domain name records via web interface
[00:34] <R00TD00R> Hi
[00:35] <jnc> ketsemoaaa: alternately, you can have your domain name registrar use an alternative domain name server, and that I would point to one of the free DNS services (like freedns.afraid.org but not that one because I recommend against it)
[00:35] <jnc> I don't have a specific suggestion since I'm not being paid for one :)
[00:35] <waterfoul_> What does ubuntu use as it's sound daemon?
[00:36] <jnc> waterfoul_: PulseAudio, I think
[00:37] <ketsemoaaa> jnc: But i will write in the web interface of Godaddy?
[00:38] <jnc> ketsemoaaa: yeah that's more of a GoDaddy support issue ;   you're looking for a primer on the basics of how DNS records work, like "what is a DNS 'A record'? "
[00:39] <jnc> "A record" is 32-bit IPv4 ;  "AAAA record" is 128-bit IPv6 ;   "MX" record is mail exchange; "CNAME" record is an alternate name ... and so on look for that kind of information to read up about
[00:39] <jnc> those are the kind of informations you'll need to learn about and then enter into the registrar's web control panel
[00:39] <waterfoul_> hmmm it looks like alsa is not working.....
[00:40] <avid_fan> ketsemoaaa: wikipedia might be of some assistance building your knowledge of DNS, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
[00:40] <relipse> why does "rm -r foobar" prompt me like 300 times if i truly want to delete  write-protected regular file(s) ?
[00:40] <avid_fan> ketsemoaaa: It's really not all that complicated, especially if you're managing a single domain.
[00:41] <p-2> hello
[00:41] <ketsemoaaa> jnc: avid_fan: i guess that i need two static ip's
[00:41] <she_dyed> relipse: try rm -f
[00:41] <she_dyed> or rm -rf
[00:41] <avid_fan> ketsemoaaa: if you're talking about running your own DNS servers, yeah that's a start. I'd definitely recommend running at least 2, for redundancy.
[00:41] <p-2> which is a more respected language, c++, java or perl?
[00:43] <jnc> p-2: perl, of course
[00:43] <nevyn> p-2: in what field? for what purpose?
[00:43] <ketsemoaaa> avid_fan: i simple want to connect my domain with my cloud server that i set up
[00:43] <nevyn> p-2: languages don't matter.
[00:43] <p-2> for web app dev
[00:43] <p-2> nevyn: why not?
[00:43] <jnc> sticking with perl.
[00:43] <nevyn> java or none of the above.
[00:43] <p-2> haha
[00:43] <waterfoul_> so apparently alsa isn't working ("alsamixer" doesn't load) could someone help me figure out why? alsainfo -> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e097278c2c0c5bdd5bc71dff6387297add78cb25
[00:43]  * jnc :)
[00:43] <nevyn> p-2: you can learn one in a weekend
[00:44] <p-2> what do you recommend?
[00:44] <nevyn> again it depends..
[00:44] <jnc> waterfoul_: alsamixer sometimes defaults to the pulseaudio mixer
[00:44] <p-2> for web app
[00:44] <avid_fan> ketsemoaaa: And if you want it accessible via a name, then you're on the right track of setting up DNS. Now you just need to decide whether you want GoDaddy to host your DNS, or someone else, or you do it on your own.
[00:44] <jnc> waterfoul_: try "alsamixer -c0" or "alsamixer -c1"
[00:45] <nevyn> p-2: webdev is now all about the node.js and similar ajax foo
[00:45] <waterfoul_> invalid card index: 0
[00:45] <avid_fan> ketsemoaaa: In my business life we have our registrar, Network Solutions, host our DNS. They provide a web-interface to control all the records we need, which are very few.
[00:45] <waterfoul_> invalid card index: 01
[00:45] <jnc> neat
[00:45] <jnc> it really is broken
[00:46] <avid_fan> ketsemoaaa: But at my previous company, we hosted our DNS internally. And did so without a problem for years.
[00:46] <relipse> is there a way to get php 5.4 on debian squeeze?
[00:46] <p-2> nevyn: what is the best language to program a chatbot-AI in?
[00:46] <nevyn> waterfoul_: it looks broken.. try turning it off and on again.
[00:47] <waterfoul_> nevyn you mean reboot? already tried that
[00:48] <ketsemoaaa> avid_fan: i am a little confused! thanks for the help
[00:49] <p-2> ubuntu vs. linux mint, go
[00:49] <xMopxShell> Hi, could anyone help me grow my mdadm partion? I have /dev/md0 and /dev/md0p1, and ive already added the new disks
[00:49] <xMopxShell> Just need to grow the partition and file system on the disk
[00:50] <xMopxShell> Im getting mdadm: component size of /dev/md0 unchanged at<PHONE_NUMBER>K
[00:51] <avid_fan> ketsemoaaa: Sorry for the confusion. DNS isn't something I would call trivial, but it's not a 50-foot, 10-headed hydra monster either.
[00:53] <p-2> is c++ considered a n00b language?
[00:53] <xMopxShell> no.
[00:53] <bazhang> !ot | p-2
[00:56] <DarthExpeditor> Looking for a killer workspace switcher
[00:56] <DarthExpeditor> slash manager
[00:56] <DarthExpeditor> Suggestions?
[00:57] <bazhang> DarthExpeditor, for gnome-shell? the gnome extensions site may have some
[00:57] <Tomcat> Arch, Slackware, ubuntu, xubuntu, debian and other distro's are seeing my touchpad as a PS/2 mouse. I've exhausted myself searching Google and various forums for answers on how I can get my touchpad functionality back. Right now it is simply a dummy pointing device. No scroll and whatnot.Any ideas?
[00:57] <relipse> i'm trying to install php5.4 on debian squeeze it said to install wheezy, but i'm getting this error: https://pastee.org/zb6ud
[00:58] <bazhang> relipse, #debian
[00:58] <DarthExpeditor> Unity
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> DarthExpeditor, You no wanna dah cube.
[00:59] <DarthExpeditor> ?
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> DarthExpeditor, The compiz cube
[00:59] <DarthExpeditor> I'm on a vanilla install right now.
[00:59] <bazhang> !cube | DarthExpeditor
[01:01] <waterfoul_> ok, so if I try alsamixer with sudo it works......
[01:01] <DarthExpeditor> I'm on a workstation, no NVIDIA or ATI
[01:02] <waterfoul_> and applay works with sudo
[01:04] <arthur-> Hi
[01:04] <arthur->
[01:04] <arthur-> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
[01:04] <bazhang> arthur-, stop that
[01:06] <jnc> "She looked into my eyes, and uttered those fateful words, she said BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK"
[01:06] <nevyn> wisey: you can run 12.10 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[01:06] <nevyn> jnc: ppc is the fastest arch on the planet.
[01:06]  * jnc blinks
[01:07] <jnc> fastest to sink to the bottom of the ocean?
[01:07] <OerHeks> nevyn, fast, but will it play flash ?
[01:07] <jnc> the opencores ppc stuff is somewhat interesting
[01:07] <nevyn> jnc: ppc7 and 8 are easily competitive with xeons
[01:07] <bazhang> jnc nevyn #ubuntu-discuss please
[01:18] <steven-> ok I am having some weird issues w/ my usb stick, so before I was going to throw it away someone might be able to help me fixing it
[01:18] <steven-> situation: the usb stick blinks, thats about it, fdisk won't list it, parted won't show it either
[01:19] <steven-> gparted throws an error says it can't find /dev/sdb
[01:19] <steven-> so I am out of ideas, I know its a stupid way to describe a problem, but thats literally all i got
[01:19] <steven-> does it sound familiar to someone?
[01:19] <compi> HI guys, I installed a PCI serial port card that is not working. I am running Ubuntu 12.04. When I do a lspci -v it shows the kernel driver is: serial and on IRQ 16. When I do a dmesg | grep ttyS it shows ttyS4 at I/O 0x1000 (irq = 16) is a XScale.
[01:20] <jamesaepp> Anyone have a solution for multi-monitor issues on an AMD Radeon HD 5670 ?
[01:21] <jamesaepp> Anyone have a solution for multi-monitor issues on an AMD Radeon HD 5670 ?
[01:21] <jnc> compi: what brand/model?
[01:21] <jamesaepp> HIS
[01:22] <jamesaepp> one moment while I get a link
[01:22] <compi> jamesaepp: MS2400 is all it says.
[01:22] <relipse> how do i name my linux machine, on putty it just shows an IP address, but on another server it actually calls it <name>
[01:22] <compi> I received a driver with it but do not know how to install it.
[01:22] <jamesaepp> point taken, compi
[01:23] <jamesaepp> relipse: http://goo.gl/wcRWO
[01:23] <jamesaepp> ^^ See if that helps you
[01:24] <jnc> compi: looks engooglebar
[01:25] <compi> guys, I followed this guide but do not get the results in the last step: http://www.electronicsfaq.com/2010/02/getting-serial-port-to-work-under.html
[01:25] <jnc> compi: where did you get your device from
[01:25] <jnc> ebay?
[01:25] <compi> jnc, yes!, Ebay...
[01:26] <jnc> compi: got a link?
[01:26] <dr_willis> relipse:  what do you mean by calls it name? where are you seeing the name?
[01:27] <compi> jnc, here is the one I bought: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200838886904&ssPageName=STRK:MEAFB:IT
[01:28] <jnc> compi: okay, and on the actual add-on card that you received and have installed, what markings are on the big microprocessor chip?  does that also say "ALT" like in the ebay picture, or is it a different marking?
[01:30] <compi> jnc, it says moschp
[01:33] <compi> jnc, the moschip p/n on the board is: MCS9865IV-AA
[01:34] <jnc> compi: okay, good information there
[01:34] <dr_willis> ,mmv,v,,,,,,,,,,v.v.v..v.v...v..v..v.v.v..vvllllgl.v,.x..xc,.,c.,, .mk,xckjxkj,mkzx.,z, ,z zxm s,sz,m
[01:34] <dr_willis> cccncncnncncncnssssnnsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssjsjsd jdxekw6\
[01:34] <dr_willis> h
[01:34] <MKCoin> someone ban that cat!
[01:37] <jnc> compi: i'm reading that support for the MCS9865 chipset was added in Linux kernel 2.6.34
[01:37] <jnc> compi: so... it should just work
[01:37] <jnc> compi: what did you say is the problem?
[01:38] <relipse> i'm trying to install phpmyadmin manually (so i can have the latest version) in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ but for some reason /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf is not getting run, how do i enable this?
[01:39] <compi> jnc, my pc only has 1 serial port. I then installed the PCI card to add an additional 2 serial ports. I then tried to use the serial port s on a known device and software application and it does not want to work.
[01:39] <compi> jnc, dmesg | grep ttyS
[01:39] <compi> [    0.246754] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[01:39] <compi> [    0.336581] serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
[01:39] <compi> [    0.378107] 00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[01:39] <compi> [    0.444570] 0000:05:04.0: ttyS4 at I/O 0x1000 (irq = 16) is a XScale
[01:39] <compi> [    0.444705] 0000:05:04.0: ttyS5 at I/O 0x1008 (irq = 16) is a XScale
[01:39] <FloodBot1> compi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <avid_fan> relipse: I think you'd at least need to symbolically link that file under /etc/apache2/conf.d for it to be read.
[01:41] <BladeMaster> Ant help on scheduling algorithms using pthreads? urgent help required
[01:42] <compi> jnc, here is what I see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700275/
[01:42] <avid_fan> relipse: And I'd specify a new name too: 'ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf'
[01:43] <dr_willis> silly grandson watching blues clues on the pc..... ;P  hes 4
[01:43] <avid_fan> dr_willis: Sit down in our thinking chair and ....
[01:44] <compi> jnc, ttyS4 and ttyS5 is Xscale. Should it not be shown as 16550A if it is correctly configured?
[01:44] <marshalcure> hello everyone....
[01:45] <marshalcure> i could use some help with conky if anyone has experience with it
[01:45] <william> hola
[01:45] <william> :)
[01:45] <william> Hi
[01:45] <dr_willis> conky has 1000's of guides and docs and examples marshalcure ... and a decent faq.. your issue is?
[01:46] <bazhang> marshalcure, have you read the conky beginners guide?
[01:47] <marshalcure> well i installed conky and could not figure it out. so i removed it but there are still conky files in etc and i dont have permission to remove them. i have tried to --purge but the files remain.
[01:48] <dr_willis> marshalcure: so this really has nothing to do with conky. but more of an apt question. ;)
[01:48] <marshalcure> umm yeah sure ;0
[01:48] <marshalcure> should have said i just converted to linux
[01:48] <avid_fan> marshalcure: And a 'sudo rm -f <offending files>' does?
[01:48] <dr_willis> apt-get purge packagename should have removed them all. as far as i know
[01:48] <dr_willis> marshalcure:  its not worth worrying about really..
[01:48] <steven-> ok the usb drive is listed as an device, ls /dev/| grep sdb shows the device + sdb1 a partition
[01:49] <steven-> dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdb -> dd: opening ‘/dev/sdb’: No such device or address
[01:49] <steven-> there must be a way to fix the stupid usb drive ..
[01:49] <marshalcure> purge did not remove them..and i guess i could leave them. i
[01:49] <avid_fan> marshalcure: Ah, a recent convert. You need elevated privileges. Check out 'sudo'.
[01:50] <marshalcure> ok will do i'll google it 'sudo'
[01:50] <dr_willis> if you edit the config files by hand. purge may still leave them - since they are customuzed.. ive never really noticed it . or worried about it
[01:51] <dr_willis> You could just reinstall conky and try to learn to use it. ;) its a nifty tool. but can be a bit overwhelming
[01:51] <steven-> so I guess no one has an idea how my issue could be solved?
[01:51] <bazhang> steven-, sounds like a hardware issue
[01:51] <avid_fan> marshalcure: dr_willis has a point in that the config files in /etc take up almost no space, but if you really want to get rid of them you'll need highe privileges, i.e. 'sudo'.
[01:51] <steven-> bazhang: the thing is, it worked perfectely like 1h ago
[01:52] <steven-> I used gparted to format it, and ever since I did that its acting up
[01:52] <steven-> so I was hoping its just a currputed fs
[01:52] <dr_willis> steven-:  that tends to be how hard drives die.. they worked.. then they died.. its possible it could be a cable/controller issue also.
[01:52] <avid_fan> steven-: Can you make a new partition table and start over?
[01:53] <marshalcure> well i ran"sudo apt-get --purge remove conky " files still remain
[01:53] <steven-> I can't do anything, the stick blinks, it appears as /dev/sdb and thats about it
[01:53] <steven-> no application is able to read, write or even touch it
[01:53] <tgm4883> marshalcure, what files?
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> marshalcure, remove the .conky from home
[01:53] <marshalcure> and i tried to reinstall but conky wont start and im pretty sure its these files blocking
[01:54] <dr_willis> marshalcure:  whjat files exactly are you talking about? it shouldent stopy conky from getting reinstalled
[01:54] <steven-> dmesg prints out this stuff, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700295/
[01:54] <BladeMaster> How to schdeule pthreads in c using fcfs, rr???
[01:54] <avid_fan> steven-: 'parted /dev/sdb' then 'mklabel msdos'?
[01:54] <steven-> just scroll down to the bottom :D
[01:54] <steven-> Error: Error opening /dev/sdb: No such device or address
[01:54] <marshalcure> it reinstalls but wont start
[01:55] <marshalcure> i dan copy in past the error if it is allowed here
[01:55] <jnc> compi: read http://www.electronicsfaq.com/2010/02/getting-serial-port-to-work-under.html
[01:55] <marshalcure> can*
[01:55] <deww> steven-: line 926 looks like there's an issue with the drive
[01:55] <tgm4883> !pastebin | marshalcure
[01:55] <jnc> compi: maybe this will work for you?   force the UART type as described
[01:55] <dr_willis> marshalcure:  and how are you trying to start conky?
[01:56] <marshalcure> open term and type conky
[01:56] <sean_> k
[01:56] <marshalcure> is that not correct
[01:56] <marshalcure> ?
[01:56] <dr_willis> marshalcure:  it works fine for me that way
[01:56] <compi> jnc, I followed all the steps in the link provided without the same results. I do not get the setserial -g /dev/ttyS* command to yield the same results as per the link.
[01:56] <steven-> deww: it was working before I used gparted, though
[01:56] <jnc> ah okay
[01:56] <steven-> so I guess gparted destroyed my stick?
[01:57] <dr_willis> marshalcure:  you dont see any conky widgits on the desktpp eh? did you get any error messages?  do you have a custome .conkyrc?
[01:57] <jnc> compi: I did find drivers...  but no help to you ;/
[01:57] <marshalcure> @ubottu i will have to read up on that
[01:57] <avid_fan> steven-: have to agree with deww, looks like a potential hardware problem with the drive.
[01:57] <dr_willis> marshalcure:  ubottu  is a bot.. and theres no need for the @ on irc
[01:57] <steven-> nice, at least I can say gparted destroyed my thumb drive
[01:57] <marshalcure> o sorry  i must look like a noob idiot inhere
[01:57] <marshalcure> lol
[01:57] <tgm4883> marshalcure, post the error message, or the path to the files that aren't being removed when you purge it
[01:57] <compi> jnc, I did this: sudo setserial /dev/ttyS4 uart 16550A but it still stays as  "Xscale", and does not want to work..
[01:58] <steven-> shit, its the only one I have right now
[01:58] <marshalcure> ok ill try the http://past.ubuntu.com
[01:58] <compi> jnc, could it be that I do not have enough serial ports specified somewhere?
[01:59] <jnc> compi: see query
[01:59] <avid_fan> marshalcure: don't feel bad about being a newbie. We all started somewhere. Just don't expect miracles. :-)
[01:59] <marshalcure> thanks :)
[02:00] <dr_willis> !manual | marshalcure
[02:02] <arkie_> hey guys, my laptop has switchable graphics between intel and nvidia. Problem is with ubuntu I can't easily switch between them so battery preservation and more graphics power is hard to achieve when i want it. I found this fix here.
[02:03] <arkie_> https://github.com/awilliam/asus-switcheroo
[02:03] <arkie_> However, I'm not really sure in how to use/deploy it.
[02:03] <arkie_> I'm a noob when it comes to Linux. I'm looking at the readme but I'm pretty confused.
[02:04] <arkie_> No one?
[02:05] <steven-> what I dont get, why is it listed as a device in /dev/* and why does lsusb show the drive as well?
[02:05] <steven-> if it was dead, shouldn't it be not listed at all?
[02:07] <dr_willis> steven-:  ive seen drives be in a semi-dead-damaged-wacked out state befor.
[02:07] <tgm4883> arkie_, you likely want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[02:07] <dr_willis> steven-:  seen them also come back to life for a while.. then die again later..
[02:07] <dr_willis> steven-: it depends on what part of the hd died or is acting up
[02:07] <tgm4883> arkie_, looking at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics#NVIDIA_Optimus it seems the vga switcheroo won't work for you
[02:08] <steven-> hm .. and I don't know, all I did was using gparted to format it, so all I know is that like an hour ago everything worked and the drive never acted up
[02:08] <steven-> so I am 99% sure that its not a HW issue
[02:09] <avid_fan> steven-: Then do you have another box with another OS to try and "fix" it?
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> !fsck
[02:09] <steven-> plugged it into my gfs windows box, same behaviour but less information :D
[02:10] <dr_willis> steven-:  how big a hd is it?
[02:10] <steven-> its a thumb drive, only 8gb
[02:11] <dr_willis> steven-:  they do have a finite life. its possible you might be able to use dd to clear it then repartion it.. but lets face it.. a 8gb flash is like $5 these days...
[02:11] <dr_willis> ive seen flash drives fail in all sorts of weird ways..
[02:12] <CR-Bot> hello
[02:12] <steven-> dd doesn't work either, already tried that^^
[02:12] <tgm4883> steven-, so you can't format it in the windows box either?
[02:13] <dr_willis> steven-:  its possible it Might 'start' working eventually.. but for a usb flash - i doubt it..
[02:13] <steven-> no
[02:13] <steven-> yeah I guess I really have to head to walmart and get another one -.-
[02:13] <avid_fan> steven-: Sounds like it's "hammer time".
[02:14] <ezrafree> hello
[02:14] <CR-Bot> hello, steven
[02:14] <romero126> hrmm..
[02:14] <ezrafree> i am seeing "debian" and some graphics on my ubuntu 12.04 during bootscreen, is there any way to disable this?
[02:14] <steven-> hello CR-Bot
[02:14]  * avid_fan
[02:14] <steven-> :D
[02:15] <texla> steven  Iused "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sbdx bs=512 count=1 then reformat
[02:15] <bazhang> !give me a test CR-Bot
[02:15] <tgm4883> ezrafree, debian? what did you do?
[02:15] <steven-> dd cant find the of
[02:15] <steven-> which is weird because its listed in dev/
[02:15] <ezrafree> tgm4883: lmao, i dunno! i did an upgrade, that's about it really...
[02:15] <arkie> My laptop has switchable graphics between intel and nvidia. Problem is with ubuntu I can't easily switch between them so battery preservation and more graphics power is hard to achieve when i want it. I found this fix here. https://github.com/awilliam/asus-switcheroo
[02:15] <ezrafree> that is, i did "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:16] <tgm4883> arkie, I'm taking it you didn't actually see anything that I told you
[02:16] <CR-Bot> Do you intelligent, ubottu ?
[02:16] <avid_fan> steven-: Might I suggest a reboot and then try dd, or fsck, or whatever once more?
[02:16] <ezrafree> i guess i should probably check google out on this
[02:16] <dr_willis> if dd fails. then the hardware is not getting detected properly.
[02:17] <avid_fan> steven-: I'm skeptical it will actually help, but stranger things have happened.
[02:17] <CR-Bot> Nice to met you, steven.
[02:17] <dr_willis> which woud also explain why /dev/sdX is not seen
[02:17] <CR-Bot> :)
[02:17] <ezrafree> CR-Bot is aliiiieeeeve
[02:17] <steven-> dr_willis: but /dev/sdb is seen
[02:17] <ezrafree> who's all up in that eggdrop ;)
[02:17] <steven-> thats the whole confusion
[02:17] <arkie> tgm4883, just saw now.
[02:18] <arkie> So I don't have a hardware multiplexer?
[02:18] <tgm4883> arkie, IDK, doesn't sound like it from that page
[02:18] <ezrafree> has anyone else ever experienced their grub theme in ubuntu being reset to a debian theme?
[02:18] <tgm4883> arkie, but I don't have nvidia hybrid graphics, I have amd hybrid graphics
[02:18] <avid_fan> ezrafree: Nope. Sorry.
[02:18] <tgm4883> ezrafree, I think you mean plymouth
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> ezrafree, Did you have or do you have another OS?
[02:18] <arkie> tgm4883, but the github readme basically says that the switcheroo works on his ul30vt
[02:19] <arkie> which is the same model as mine.
[02:19] <ezrafree> tgm4883: plymoth?
[02:19] <CR-Bot> What is mean aliiiieeeeve, ezrafree ?
[02:19] <ezrafree> tgm4883: what's plymouth?
[02:19] <tgm4883> ezrafree, yea, that is the boot screen
[02:19] <dr_willis> steven-:  you said eralier that dd dident see it   i thought
[02:19] <ezrafree> tgm4883: hmm i am running grub, it even says so on the bootscreen
[02:19] <tgm4883> arkie, well you could try it, IDK if it would hurt it
[02:19] <tgm4883> !plymouth | ezrafree
[02:20] <bazhang> CR-Bot, do you have an ubuntu support question
[02:20] <steven-> oh yeah ls /dev | grep sdb <- lists the device + the sdb1 partition
[02:20] <steven-> dd throws an error though
[02:20] <ezrafree> tgm4883: ah ok thanks
[02:21] <Xabster> when you connect to SSH from a windows, do you all swear to putty? i wouldn't mind a more graphical and luxurious interface
[02:21] <CR-Bot> Yes, i have. Are you hacker, bazhang ? Can you teach me about hacker ?
[02:21] <bazhang> !ot | CR-Bot
[02:22] <avid_fan> Xabster: I try to keep my meddling in Windo$e to a minimum.
[02:22] <tgm4883> Why would I ever go into windows
[02:22] <bazhang> CR-Bot, thats not what this channel is about, so no. take the random chit chat somewhere else
[02:22] <Xabster> i understand, and i know i'm off topic
[02:22] <romero126> So many crashes.
[02:22] <avid_fan> Xabster: so puTTY works fine for me. :-)
[02:22] <Xabster> just hoped for a recommended ssh client other than putty
[02:22] <CR-Bot> Ok, thanks. I'm sorry.
[02:23] <avid_fan> what's with the CR-Bot?
[02:23] <bazhang> Xabster, you could ask in ##windows for that
[02:23] <Xabster> yes i will, sorry
[02:23] <CR-Bot> Ok, thanks. I'm sorry, bazhang.
[02:23] <arkie> tgm4883, that switcheroo guide you linked is different from the asus-switcheroo on github
[02:23] <avid_fan> Xabster: no worries. :-P
[02:24] <arkie> the asus-switcheroo is specifically for my laptop model.
[02:24] <steven-> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700361/
[02:24] <tgm4883> arkie, ok, so what is your question then?
[02:24] <arkie> look at the readme for the asus switcheroo
[02:24] <tgm4883> arkie, i am
[02:25] <arkie> im not sure what to do, i only just installed ubuntu yesterday
[02:25] <steven-> dr_willis: dd: opening ‘/dev/sdb’: No such device or address
[02:25] <arkie> i dont know what commands to run in the terminal etc..
[02:25] <tgm4883> arkie, seriously?
[02:25] <arkie> yes tgm4883
[02:25] <tgm4883> did you clone the branch?
[02:26] <arkie> no
[02:26] <steven-> dr_willis: fdisk -l won't list the device
[02:26] <tgm4883> arkie, 'git clone git://github.com/awilliam/asus-switcheroo.git'
[02:26] <steven-> lsblk shows it though
[02:26] <arkie> it says build the asus-switcheroo kernel modules
[02:26] <tgm4883> arkie, you might have to install git
[02:26] <arkie> git is installed
[02:26] <steven-> blkid doesn't
[02:26] <arkie> did that yesterday
[02:27] <arkie> ok i ran that code tgm4883
[02:27] <tgm4883> arkie, so clone it, run make, then run "sudo make install-ubuntu"
[02:27] <arkie> make install-ubuntu?
[02:28] <tgm4883> arkie, make
[02:28] <arkie> what target do i specify for 'make' tgm4883 ?
[02:29] <dr_willis> steven-:  looks like its  ready for replacement to me.  bbl.
[02:29] <tgm4883> arkie, IDK, I'm looking at the readme
[02:29] <tgm4883> are you in the cloned directory?
[02:29] <avid_fan> steven-: So I'm assuming your thumb drive is 'Bus 001 Device 010: ID 8644:800b' ? I find it odd that it's not identified.
[02:29] <arkie> no
[02:30] <arkie> i have to cd or something then right?
[02:30] <tgm4883> yes
[02:30] <tgm4883> cd <directory>
[02:30] <steven-> yes avid_fan and its listed in /dev/, but not in blkid, but lsblk shows it again
[02:31] <arkie_> tgm4883: anthony@anthony-UL30VT:~/asus-switcheroo$ sudo make
[02:31] <arkie_> make -C /lib/modules/3.5.0-27-generic/build M=/home/anthony/asus-switcheroo modules
[02:31] <arkie_> make: *** /lib/modules/3.5.0-27-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:31] <arkie_> make: *** [default] Error 2
[02:31] <steven-> arkie_: use a pastebin service..
[02:31] <tgm4883> arkie_, well you don't need sudo, and you need to install your kernel headers
[02:32] <CanadianPirate> Quick question, does anyone here have their system encrypted with luks?
[02:32] <romero126> so many crashes.
[02:32] <avid_fan> steven-: steven- Again I'm thinking, ok hoping, that you need to start from a "clean slate" and reboot. I'm skeptical that it will actually work, but stranger things have happened.
[02:32] <arkie> removing the sudo doesnt help tgm4883
[02:32] <arkie> how do i install the kernel headers?
[02:32] <tgm4883> arkie, you need to install linux-headers-generic
[02:33] <tgm4883> arkie, that is assuming your system is up to date
[02:34] <arkie> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic?
[02:34] <arkie> is that the command tgm4883 ?
[02:34] <tgm4883> arkie, yes
[02:35] <arkie> is that why make isn't working?
[02:35] <avid_fan> arkie tgm4883 would a 'apt-get install build-essential' also be useful?
[02:35] <Blue1> xubuntu 12.04 -- they seemed to have removed rcconf -- gives me an error message about needing whiptail or dialog -- whiptail IS installed.
[02:36] <tgm4883> avid_fan, possibly
[02:36] <arkie> ok make worked
[02:37] <arkie> now installing make and picked distro
[02:38] <arkie> ok its done tgm4883
[02:40] <Blue1> sysv-rc-conf
[02:40] <Blue1> sheesh
[02:40] <arkie> tgm
[02:40] <arkie> tgm4883, # echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch doesn't work.
[02:41] <arkie> It just says Permission Denied.
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[02:41] <bazhang> Neozonz, wrong channel
[02:41] <Neozonz> sorry ;)
[02:41] <Neozonz> amsg
[02:41] <Neozonz> teeheehee
[02:41] <tgm4883> arkie, you need to sudo su that
[02:42] <bazhang> tgm4883, sudo su is not good advice
[02:42] <tgm4883> bazhang, link?
[02:42] <bazhang> tgm4883, for what
[02:42] <tgm4883> bazhang, for why that isn't good advice
[02:43] <bazhang> tgm4883, the root account is not enabled by default
[02:43] <arkie> so the command is sudo echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[02:43] <bazhang> tgm4883, use sudo -i for a root shell if you must
[02:43] <tgm4883> bazhang, I'm not telling him to enable the root account
[02:43] <WR-Stone> Question:  in 2011, the VirtualBox kernel drivers were labeled "tainted crap" and was responsible for a lot of instability.  Is this still the case?
[02:44] <arkie> is that the correct command tgm4883 ?
[02:44] <tgm4883> arkie, no, that still won't work
[02:44] <arkie> Yep, it isn't.
[02:45] <arkie> What am I doing wrong?
[02:45] <tgm4883> arkie, although something like 'echo OFF | sudo tee <FILEPATH>' would probably work
[02:45] <arkie> what does the 'tee' do?
[02:45] <tgm4883> tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files
[02:47] <arkie_> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700396/
[02:49] <tgm4883> arkie_, I have a feeling that was just drivers for it and you still have to install vgaswitcheroo
[02:49] <arkie> tgm4883, i see
[02:50] <arkie> or could it be that debugfs isn't automatically mounted tgm4883 ?
[02:51] <marshalcure> ok bazhang i'm sorry but i have been trying to put this error on using pastebinit but i can not figure it out
[02:51] <marshalcure> when i type pastebinit "filename" it says it cant read it
[02:51] <marshalcure> i put the error on a text doc
[02:52] <bazhang> marshalcure, whats the exact command please
[02:53] <arkie> hot do i actually install vgaswitcheroo now tgm4883 ?
[02:53] <marshalcure> im sorry not sure what your asking
[02:53] <romero126> argh.
[02:54] <avid_fan> romero126: Playing pirate?
[02:54] <romero126> So many crashes.
[02:54] <bazhang> marshalcure, what are you trying to display using pastebinit? it's command | pastebinit usually, not filename pastebinit
[02:54] <romero126> Chrome crashed. ...
[02:55] <romero126> well rather lightpd related crash docking and undocking UI in chrome.
[02:55] <avid_fan> romero126: Oh, I see. I have to say, imho, Chrome on Linux < Chrome on Windo$e.
[02:56] <romero126> This is the 5th crash in 3 hours that is x related.
[02:56] <avid_fan> romero126: It makes me kinda sad.
[02:56] <marshalcure> o sorry i tried in terminal " conky | pastebinit" but i get a error saying im trying to send a black document.
[02:56] <marshalcure> blank*
[02:56] <WR-Stone> romero126, Yeah, I get that a lot in Chromium.  I think I've got an unstable add-on.  It usually crashes the add-ons first, then the browser.  Then I have to ps and find the errant, still-running chromium processes, and kill them.
[02:56] <bernstein> Ben64, thank you for helping me fix 90% of my issues last night, much appreciated
[02:57] <ironmig> Hello. Can I ask questions about the server edition or is this strictly desktop version questions?
[02:57] <romero126> Its not a chromium specific error with me. its alot of gui based errors.
[02:57] <Charcoalcat> Does anyone happen to know about problems with Access 2010 in PlayOnLinux? The problem is it thinks all my tables are secretly called ' "' (a space followed by a quotation mark) and won't let me run the query wizard because of it. (I'm required to use it for a class.)
[02:57] <bazhang> marshalcure, whats the end goal here? to remove the last remnants of a conky config just a few kb in size or less?
[02:57] <avid_fan> ironmig: You can ask, but #ubuntu-server might be more appropriate.
[02:58] <romero126> I update my machine every day, and im getting intermittant errors where its not a continual crash and non conditional.
[02:58] <avid_fan> romero126: What version of Ubuntu and Chrome? Just curious.
[02:58] <WR-Stone> Charcoalcat, My experience with Wine isn't good with MS products.  They use so many undocumented system calls that they tend to be incompatible.  I suggest standing up a Windows VM and running MS products in the VM.
[02:58] <romero126> the only link is unity and lightdm
[02:59] <tgm4883> arkie_, I think so
[02:59] <marshalcure> to get a fresh install of conky. but those remnants are clinging to every fresh install and throwing errors
[02:59] <romero126> Ubuntu is at 12.10 and Chrome is at the latest.
[02:59] <ironmig> Okay. So I'm going to turn my old computer into a server for minecraft/teampeak for me and a few friends. Would the conserved resources of using the server edition be worth the difficulty to set it up?
[02:59] <bazhang> marshalcure, have you read the conky beginners guide yet?
[03:00] <tgm4883> marshalcure, I'm still waiting for an error message or list of files that aren't getting removed
[03:00] <avid_fan> ironmig: are you afraid of the command line?
[03:00] <WR-Stone> ironmig, Oddly enough, I've been pecking at setting up a MC server on Ubuntu 12.10.  I have an older desktop computer running the desktop edition.  I don't see any system performance issues on it.  The PC is vintage about 2004.
[03:01] <marshalcure> the files are conky.conf and conky_no_x11.conf in the etc folder in root
[03:01] <romero126> I know enough to do alot of dmg in linux and its still lame. :/
[03:01] <bazhang> marshalcure, was that a yes or no to my question? have you read the conky beginners guide yet?
[03:01] <avid_fan> ironmig WR-Stone : in my experience minecraft can consume considerable RAM, so Ubuntu server, without X, can help you there.
[03:02] <marshalcure> yes
[03:02] <romero126> hrmm
[03:02] <romero126> brb
[03:03] <tgm4883> marshalcure, those files don't belong to the conky package
[03:03] <WR-Stone> avid_fan, I have the same experience.  I have to use adjusted settings to artificially limit it.  Anyway, I don't know if Server would be better than Desktop.  Theoretically, sure.  Hard to say if you'll feel a difference, though.  MC is the resource hog.  ;)
[03:03] <ironmig> I guess I am a bit afraid of the command line, I just don't know were to look on resources of what commands you can use. I also want it to be completly remotely controlled so I can just stick it in a cloest without keyboard, mouse, or moniter. IS this possible and were do I look to set this up?
[03:03] <tgm4883> marshalcure, which is why they aren't getting removed when you purge that package
[03:03] <Charcoalcat> WR-Stone: I did set up a virtual VM, but it says I need to install Service Pack 2! I did, and it still says so :(
[03:03] <tgm4883> marshalcure, they belong to the conky-std package
[03:03] <Charcoalcat> (XP and Vista! Can't get ahold of a Windows 7 iso.)
[03:04] <marshalcure> so if i purge that will it take them with it
[03:04] <arkie> tgm4883, tried rebooting same thing, just says no file or directory
[03:04] <tgm4883> marshalcure, also, they aren't in /etc, they are in /etc/conky/ (at least in 12.10)
[03:04] <arkie> so i guess you're right and i actually need to install vgaswitcheroo
[03:04] <sprezzatura> are there any scripts to provision an ubuntu server. things like check for sysctl and kernel params. networking etc?
[03:04] <WR-Stone> Charcoalcat, Hm ... don't know what to tell you.  I'm fighting Win8 VirtualBox install at the moment.  :P
[03:04] <tgm4883> arkie, I still think you need to install vgaswitheroo
[03:04] <Monkeytoe> has anyone here been able to get ubuntu to install on a surface pro?
[03:04] <marshalcure> sorry that is where there at
[03:04] <marshalcure> are*
[03:04] <arkie> is that just sudo apt-get install vgaswitcheroo or something?
[03:04] <tgm4883> arkie, yes
[03:04] <avid_fan> WR-Stone: Agreed MC is piggy. But it's my opinion that if I can save some MB from not running X, then MC can have it. :-)
[03:05] <WR-Stone> ironmig, Yes, it's possible.  However, if you don't know the command line, you may find it rather daunting.
[03:05] <WR-Stone> avid_fan, Yep, I hear you.  Again, theoretically, yes, a GUI-less box will have more resources to devote to MC.
[03:06] <tgm4883> ironmig, what specs on the server?
[03:06] <avid_fan> ironmig: Wow, I'd have to suggest server to save as much RAM as possible for MC. Since administering MC cannot be done with some sort of GUI (that I'm aware of), running X just to give you a terminal seems silly.
[03:06] <arkie> installed vgaswitcheroo and same thing with that command tgm4883 no suchg file or directory
[03:06] <ironmig_> Sorry client crashed I am a bit afraid of the command line, I just don't know were to look on resources of what commands you can use. I also want it to be completly remotely controlled so I can just stick it in a cloest without keyboard, mouse, or moniter. IS this possible and were do I look to set this up?
[03:07] <tgm4883> ironmig, what specs on the server?
[03:07] <arkie> any other ideas?
[03:07] <WR-Stone> ironmig, Yes, it's possible.  However, if you don't know the command line, you may find it rather daunting.  The MC setup seems reasonable (I'll see if I can find the link I was using), but I've been using a command line since 1977.  ;)
[03:08] <avid_fan> ironmig: I've been running an older HP ML350 for my MC server (3GB RAM), but I've recently switched to "desktop" hardware, Dell Optiplex 760 to conserve power.
[03:08] <tgm4883> arkie, sorry, i'm out of ideas
[03:08] <ironmig_> It is a AMD phenom ii x6, Radeon HD 6950, 8gb DDR3, 1TB mechanical hard drive, 650watt psu
[03:08] <tgm4883> ironmig_, how many friends?
[03:08] <ironmig_> Maybe 10 total on the server
[03:09] <tgm4883> ironmig_, that should be plenty of resources I think
[03:09] <avid_fan> ironmig_: For your "ultimate" setup, you're going to have to learn about many things like, command line, screen/byobu, & ssh.
[03:09] <WR-Stone> ironmig_, Here's the guide I've been using:  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-a-minecraft-server-on-linux
[03:09] <WR-Stone> It includes the SSH instructions, as well as how to use screen.
[03:10] <avid_fan> WR-Stone: Good find.
[03:10] <tgm4883> screen?
[03:10] <tgm4883> I just wrote an upstart job
[03:10] <ironmig_> YEah. I'm fine with learning. I love learning things about computers. I just find it hard to find good resources on server stuff and everyone uses terms that I don't understand
[03:10] <WR-Stone> tgm4883, That'd work, too.  But screen may be easier for someone who doesn't know the command line or scripts.
[03:10] <avid_fan> tgm4883: I'm not a MC expert, but how would you admin the server after starting it, assuming you're not playing as OP?
[03:11] <WR-Stone> avid_fan, I was actually working on it earlier today.  ;)
[03:11] <tgm4883> WR-Stone, true, but then it doesn't start and stop the server
[03:11] <tgm4883> avid_fan, I play as op
[03:11] <avid_fan> tgm4883: I see.
[03:11] <ironmig_> I think theres a open source project called my mc admin that will allow me to control it from a web console
[03:11] <WR-Stone> tgm4883, I agree, and when I've got it up, I'll probably do an upstart script.  Gotta get it actually running, first.  ;)
[03:11] <avid_fan> ironmig_: I'll have to look into that. Sounds interesting.
[03:12] <tgm4883> avid_fan, note, I've only been playing MC for a few days though, so IDK if that's a bad idea or not. It's just a family server, so it's probably fine
[03:12] <tgm4883> WR-Stone, having issues getting it running?
[03:13] <avid_fan> tgm4883: Me too, the family part. It's just that I don't always play, but I get asked to do this, that, or the other. So to each his own... :-)
[03:14] <WR-Stone> tgm4883, See, I have this little project of modeling the US public debt in MC as gold blocks.  Turns out that with unfunded mandates, it's a cube roughly 500 blocks in every direction.  I want to stick it on the net and let people connect and be amazed at the friggin' mountain of gold.  I'm not really having trouble getting the server up, more easily creating an object of that size.  I was mostly working on that part.
[03:14] <avid_fan> avid_fan: I find that OPing everone is usually a bad idea, so I like having console access.
[03:14] <tgm4883> WR-Stone, ah
[03:15] <tgm4883> WR-Stone, ah, I knew I had seen that before http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1754579-public-debt-mega-structure/
[03:16] <WR-Stone> Yep, that was me.  :)
[03:16] <tgm4883> :)
[03:16] <WR-Stone> Turns out it's rather hard to do.  MCEdit won't create a structure that size reliably.
[03:18] <tongcx> hi guys, what's the relationship between sockets and file descriptors?
[03:18] <tongcx> do sockets always us file descriptors?
[03:19] <avid_fan> tongcx: This is mostly beyond my exp, but I believe so yes, sockets always us file descriptors,
[03:19] <cyrano_> does anyone here have any experience getting a tripple monitor setup between an nvidia card with two monitors and an intel onboard display?
[03:20] <avid_fan> *use
[03:20] <avid_fan> cyrano_: Just gotta push that edge of the envelope?
[03:21] <WR-Stone> Ye gods ... starting up a Win8 VM.  Man, I hope they don't frak up Ubuntu Touch the way they did Win.  I don't even want to run it, but considering I'm a college professor in IT, I kind of have to.  :P
[03:21] <cyrano_> that's my goal..
[03:21] <AcidRain> my ubuntu 12 system keeps making beepy sounds
[03:22] <AcidRain> it sounds like its mounting something
[03:22] <AcidRain> this happens roughly once every minute. it makes beep beep, beep beep beep
[03:22] <WR-Stone> AcidRain, It's two beeps, a pause, and three beeps?
[03:22] <AcidRain> no. its sounds like 5 beeps x2
[03:23] <AcidRain> ill have to wait for it to come around again
[03:23] <avid_fan> AcidRain: I immediately started singing, 'She'll be comin' around the mountain...'
[03:23] <Morphy> this davmail thing is an interesting concept
[03:24] <WR-Stone> Hm ... no idea.  Sometimes the PC BIOS beeps, but that's before boot.  I'll Google and see what I can find.
[03:24] <avid_fan> Morphy: as is polygamy. Your point?
[03:25] <Morphy> avid_fan, nice - just that it's an interesting concept to detach Exchange support out of evolution or thunderbird and convert it into a stand-aline app
[03:25] <avid_fan> AcidRain: How does it "sounds like its mounting something"? Is there HDD noise associated with the beeps?
[03:25] <arkie> tgm4883,
[03:25] <arkie> i found this
[03:25] <arkie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53054/i-can-not-find-sys-kernel-debug-vgaswitcheroo-switch#53062
[03:25] <avid_fan> Morphy: sorry, just in a mood to be cheeky. :-)
[03:26] <AcidRain> avid_fan, no. usually when i mount a drive, it makes a sound.
[03:26] <Morphy> avid_fan, totally understand - don't worry, I can take it :)
[03:26] <AcidRain> this time when i booted automounter mounted 2 external drives.
[03:26] <AcidRain> also, my system hangs during these beeps for a moment
[03:26] <WR-Stone> AcidRain, You mean like mounting a CD or something?  With magnetic or USB drives, I've never heard a thing.
[03:26] <AcidRain> :/
[03:26] <AcidRain> well how do i turn it off? lol
[03:27] <avid_fan> AcidRain: I have to agree with WR-Stone, never heard of such a situation.
[03:27] <WR-Stone> AcidRain, I'd be inclined to type 'dmesg' at the command line after you get beeps.  There might be something going wrong under the hood that's being caught by logging.
[03:28] <avid_fan> Morphy: Agreed. Hadn't heard of davmail, but why not? Sounds interesting.
[03:28] <avid_fan> Morphy: There's the potential to open Exchange access to many front-ends.
[03:29] <avid_fan> avid_fan: Not that anyone would "choose" to use Exchange. :-)
[03:29] <avid_fan> Morphy: Not that anyone would "choose" to use Exchange. :-)
[03:29] <avid_fan> Doh!
[03:29] <Morphy> heh
[03:30] <avid_fan> Morphy: I don't know why I apparently keep typing my own nick... :-/
[03:31] <Morphy> avid_fan, one of those days - I think everyone in MN is having the same thing - waking up to snow in the middle of April isn't a happy experience :)
[03:31] <markroman>  i installed this package:  linux-backports-modules-hv-quantal-generic and it knocked out my wired network card. is there a way to get the network card back?
[03:31] <dividedby1> Hello!
[03:32] <dividedby1> Anyone online now?
[03:33] <avid_fan> Morphy: Sorry for you folks in MN. Saw some pict on reddit referring to you guys.  Michigander here, so I'm kinda used to it. A little surprised we don't have it. Then again it's early spring.
[03:33] <dividedby1> I'm trying to find a good workflow for web development on Ubuntu
[03:33] <MBD123> dividedby1: probably
 any ideas?
[03:34] <avid_fan> dividedby1: Cast your line and depending on the bait you may, or may not, get a response.
[03:34] <Morphy> avid_fan, doesn't bother me as much - my wife dislikes it though - growing up with snow you get kind of used to it :) - it'll fun to plow out the driveway in the morning though - wish I could program Ubuntu to do it for me :D
[03:34] <MBD123> dividedby1: Nope, sorry. I usually do web stuff on Windows
[03:35] <avid_fan>  Morphy: Exactly. Maybe you could use a RasperryPi to control the truck?
[03:35] <dividedby1> Sigh... Me too but just bought a small netbook for travel... Wanted a simple workflow on ubuntu
[03:35] <dividedby1> Damn
[03:35] <relipse> how can i add/manage email accounts for my domain?
[03:35] <Morphy> avid_fan, I can just see the lawsuits...
[03:35] <dividedby1> All I can seem to find is bluefish and that really sucks
[03:36] <markroman> how about quantas dividedby1
[03:36] <dividedby1> I'm trying to find something like NOtepad++ on ubuntu
[03:36] <dividedby1> Just can't find something that simple
[03:36] <avid_fan> Morphy: Well there's that, and a cleared driveway. :-)
[03:36] <Morphy> :)
[03:38] <markroman> i think it is called kdewebdev
[03:39] <avid_fan> dividedby1: I really don't do "web development" but if I were I would definitely use some sort of CMS that would not require the use of any kind of special software.
[03:40] <Physicist_> Hello.. I am in Mint 14 now and the sudo command is not requesting the password. My o.s. can be vulnerable.. How can I change that?
[03:40] <avid_fan> dividedby1: I know that doesn't help, sorry. But this is a Ubuntu help channel, not a web-development channel.
[03:41] <Physicist_> Is that normally in Mint?
[03:41] <Physicist_> Sudo without password requirement?
[03:41] <avid_fan> Physicist_: that can be configured.
[03:42] <Physicist_> avid_fan: Give me something, please..
[03:42] <avid_fan> Physicist_: but as a default? I'd be surprised.
[03:43] <johnjohn1011> sudo won't ask for your password everytime, there is some kind of timeout
[03:43] <Physicist_> avid_fan: Yes exactly. I did not changed anything..
[03:43] <Physicist_> johnjohn1011: Never ask...
[03:44] <johnjohn1011> are you logged in as root?
[03:44] <Physicist_> I am with Mint 14 KDE..
[03:44] <Physicist_> johnjohn1011: Nope..
[03:45] <avid_fan> Physicist_: What's the content of your /etc/sudoers ?
[03:46] <johnjohn1011> yeah it's possible to turn that password stuff off http://linuxtipstricks.wordpress.com/2009/03/21/how-to-change-sudo-to-not-ask-for-your-personal-password/
[03:47] <Physicist_> !pastebin
[03:47] <bazhang> Physicist_, go to mintsupport for mint
[03:47] <Physicist_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700477/
[03:47] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Physicist_
[03:48] <avid_fan> Physicist_: you can go to mintsupport, but on freenode they're pretty dead.
[03:48] <Physicist_> avid_fan: I know..
[03:48] <Physicist_> Have a look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700477/
[03:48] <avid_fan> But if the folks at #ubuntu would rather, I'll join you on ##linuxmint.
[03:48] <reokie> Im on the #linuxmint-help on spotchat and it's pretty lively atm
[03:49] <johnjohn1011> avid_fan, stay
[03:49] <avid_fan> reokie: I guess I picked the wrong channel.
[03:49] <avid_fan> reokie: :-)
[03:49] <avid_fan> Physicist_: Looking at your paste post right now.
[03:50] <johnjohn1011> looks the same as the article i posted.  meaning it's not required
[03:50] <Physicist_> If I change: ALL - to: NO ??
[03:51] <avid_fan> johnjohn1011: last line
[03:51] <avid_fan> "ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL" a big no no.
[03:52] <johnjohn1011> maybe we should paste bin our /etc/sudoers and have him make a back of that and use the default ubuntu one
[03:52] <Physicist_> johnjohn1011: Good idea..
[03:52] <avid_fan> johnjohn1011: All but the last line, I think is a direct match.
[03:54] <Physicist_> johnjohn1011: Can you past your file?
[03:54] <johnjohn1011> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700482/
[03:54] <avid_fan> Physicist_ johnjohn1011: I'm no sudo expert, but that last line reads to give everyone, and anyone, root access if they simply request it.
[03:54] <johnjohn1011> Physicist_: make sure you just back up your file, ie don't delete it
[03:55] <avid_fan> johnjohn1011: Backup? lol. Of course Physicist_ has a backup of everything... :-)
[03:56] <Physicist_> avid_fan: Heh..
[03:56] <johnjohn1011> i guess he could if he had ZFS..
[03:57] <johnjohn1011> i learned something just now. pretty cool.
[03:58] <romero126> woot another crash at reboot
[03:58] <johnjohn1011> Physicist_: looks like yo need to use visudo as root
[03:58] <romero126> xOrg failed to load
[03:58] <Physicist_> johnjohn1011: Just the last line is different: NOPASSWD:ALL (mine) - ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL (yours) ??
[03:58] <Physicist_> Its a little confuse..
[03:59] <johnjohn1011> i pasted the link to mine
[03:59] <reokie> ^ That means that all users can use any command via sudo
[03:59] <Physicist_> I will just change it and see..
[03:59] <reokie> With yours they dont even need to supply their password
[03:59] <Physicist_> Yes.. And put the password.. I want it..
[04:00] <reokie> Has anyone here installed linux onto a latitude D630?
[04:00] <johnjohn1011> if you put someone in the admin or sudo group on ubuntu you don't need a password
[04:01] <avid_fan> reokie: D620 yes, D630 no. Just how different are they?
[04:01] <Physicist_> avid_fan: Can you past yours? just to compare?
[04:01] <avid_fan> Physicist_: my sudoers ? Sure.
[04:02] <romero126> reokie I have installed linux on a d630 before.
[04:02] <avid_fan> Physicist_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700489/
[04:03] <johnjohn1011> vi will not work on the file.  you need visudo as the editor and it has some crazy interface
[04:03] <Physicist_> avid_fan: I will delete theline: ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[04:04] <avid_fan> Physicist_: I would recommend it. Yes.
[04:04] <satoshin> UPDATE Bitcoin SET Value = 0;
[04:04] <avid_fan> Physicist_: It's the only line that differs, no?
[04:04] <arkie> hey guys, i need some help
[04:04] <arkie> for some reason i cant get this work
[04:04] <arkie> working*
[04:04] <Physicist_> avid_fan: Yes.
[04:04] <arkie> https://github.com/awilliam/asus-switcheroo
[04:05] <Physicist_> avid_fan: Great. Perfect!
[04:05] <reokie> romero126: I was wondering if everything worked "out of the box" with ubuntu
[04:06] <Physicist_> avid_fan: Thank you a lot.
[04:06] <johnjohn1011> Physicist_: good luck
[04:06] <Physicist_> johnjohn1011: Thank you a lot..
[04:06] <avid_fan> Physicist_: I'm part of the "adm" group so I can 'sudo' and make changes but not everyone.
[04:06] <romero126> reokie, I have never installed that flavor if linux on that system. There are plenty of drivers. it should work out of the box. but I could not tell you for certain
[04:06] <avid_fan> Physicist_: Glad it worked for you. Ever forward.
[04:07] <Serp23> anyone got ubuntu running on an asus p8h77-v I'd like to chat
[04:07] <johnjohn1011> no just curious how you cannot use vi to edit that file.
[04:07] <avid_fan> Physicist_: Now go and perfect that cold fusion, why don't you? :-)
[04:08] <Physicist_> I used visudo to edit the sudoers file.
[04:08] <romero126> reokie, if you are curious to know how it runs you should try looking at wubi linux installer. It runs without removing or changing anything about your current configuration.
[04:08] <avid_fan> Physicist_: That would be most appropriate.
[04:08] <Physicist_> Good night..
[04:08] <romero126> wubi ubuntu installer*
[04:08] <avid_fan> Physicist_: adios
[04:09] <Physicist_> ;-)
[04:09] <johnjohn1011> when to you think ubuntu will officially support zfs now that it is available for linux
[04:10] <avid_fan> johnjohn1011: 2014
[04:10] <johnjohn1011> avid_fan: you think in 14.04?
[04:11] <avid_fan> johnjohn1011: I'm thinking it will talke at least a year. Call it intuition.
[04:11] <avid_fan> *take
[04:12] <avid_fan> No offense, all around. I'm in no hurry to implement it. But it reads like a very promising option.
[04:13] <reokie> I'd take ZFS over LVM any day
[04:13] <johnjohn1011> will be interesting to read the first article explaining how to use it on ubuntu.   i wanted to try it on pcbsd but don't have the time to learn another os
[04:14] <avid_fan> reokie: Really? I like LVM. So ZFS is even better?
[04:14] <johnjohn1011> lvm is one file system over multple drives, right?
[04:15] <avid_fan> johnjohn1011: no.
[04:15] <sgo11> please help!!! gnome3. I just click zoom accessibility. now my screen is in zoom mode. how to disable it? any shortcuts? I can not get it back.
[04:15] <avid_fan> !lvm > johnjohn1011
[04:15] <sgo11> I can not see the right hand side of my screen. I can not click the zoom anymore.
[04:16] <johnjohn1011> tx avid_fan, i'll look.
[04:16] <arkie> can someone help me out with asus-switcheroo?
[04:16] <avid_fan> johnjohn1011: lvm is, for me, a way to partition a part of HDD space and then carve that up any which way I choose. It's very flexible.
[04:17] <reokie> avid_fan: I like a filesystem that has snapshots built in
[04:17] <WACOMalt> hey everyone, what is the name of the package I need to install to get the sharing options in the properties window of a folder?
[04:18] <avid_fan> reokie: Though I've not used it, lvm allows snapshots.
[04:18] <WACOMalt> I have samba installed and can connect to a share via "connect to server" but I cannot share my own folders
[04:18] <johnjohn1011> don't snapshots take up additional hard drive space?
[04:19] <inashdeen> hi there. How do I do an upgrade to ubuntu 13.04 beta from ubuntu 12.10 ? thanks in advance
[04:20] <johnjohn1011> update-manager -d
[04:20] <avid_fan> inashdeen: Do you have a reason to upgrade?
[04:20] <inashdeen> avid_fan : graphic card issues
[04:21] <RileyGuy> Can someone help me?
[04:21] <inashdeen> johnjohn1011 : that doesn't work. tried
[04:21] <RileyGuy> I'm having sound issures
[04:21] <avid_fan> inashdeen: I see. Good luck.
[04:21] <sgo11> please!!! anyone?
[04:21] <inashdeen> RileyGuy : what kind ? :)
[04:21] <inashdeen> sgo11 : may we help with the issue you are facin?
[04:21] <RileyGuy> inashdeen: Whenever I start minecraft the sounds seem to fall behind more and more ubuntu 11.10 java 7u17 catalyst ati
[04:22] <sgo11> inashdeen, please help!!! gnome3. I just click zoom accessibility. now my screen is in zoom mode. how to disable it? any shortcuts? I can not get it back.
[04:22] <inashdeen> RileyGuy  : is it only with mincraft or other apps too? what is your current os?
[04:23] <RileyGuy> inashdeen: only with minecraft OS:ubuntu 11.10
[04:25] <RileyGuy> inashdeen: and i cant find anyone else with the problem
[04:26] <inashdeen> RIleyGuy  : http://askubuntu.com/questions/225432/how-to-correctly-install-and-troubleshoot-minecraft-client might help. this is a prblem spefically to ubuntu 11.10 I guess
[04:26] <RileyGuy> it happened on 10.10 and 10.04 aswell
[04:27] <johnjohn1011> does that run under WINE?
[04:27] <inashdeen> sgoll : the easiest thing to do may be restart . if you can. I am still looking for other options
[04:27] <sgo11> indieross, ok. no worries. i think I just shutdown my laptop. thanks for your help.
[04:27] <inashdeen> RileyGuy : what I mean is that it is a problem related to a bug for ubuntu versions before 11.10 sorry for my english
[04:28] <RileyGuy> inashdeen: It's alright :P
[04:28] <avid_fan> RileyGuy: I can tell you, though I suppose it doesn't help, I was running Ubuntu 9.04 + MC without problems.
[04:28] <avid_fan> RileyGuy: So why do I type? I dunno?
[04:28] <avid_fan> RileyGuy: Habit.
[04:28] <RileyGuy> avid_fan: Cool, but i do not wish to install ubuntu a fifth time
[04:29] <avid_fan> RileyGuy: 5th time?
[04:29] <RileyGuy> broke it 4 times
[04:29] <RileyGuy> 2 times linux mint 2 times ubuntu
[04:29] <johnjohn1011> 12.04 is rock solid stable
[04:29] <RileyGuy> 12.04 sux it has no fglrx drivers for 2xxx-4xxx
[04:30] <avid_fan> RileyGuy: What kind of hardware are you working with? I only ask because I've installed Ubuntu/Mint on many things without any error.
[04:31] <RileyGuy> avid_fan: ubuntu 11.10 amd ati catalyst java 7
[04:33] <avid_fan> RileyGuy: On what? Some sort of Frankenstein box you put together? I've had ver good results with Mint 13 and older ATI hardware. But no hardware support is going to last forever.
[04:33] <RileyGuy> avid_fan: No, hp pavillion dv5
[04:34] <avid_fan> RileyGuy: Gunna make me look that up hunh? :-)
[04:34] <RileyGuy> nah
[04:36] <RileyGuy> inashdeen: Didn't help :(
[04:38] <she_dyed>  dont forget he has ATi card that makes the installs a challenge
[04:38] <RileyGuy> ikr
[04:39] <nurow> Hello. I'm on Ubuntu 12.10, and trying to resize an encrypted partition. I'm using the ResizeEncryptedPartition guide to do this. About halfway through the guide, I run into a section where it tells me to use the command "sudo e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/hardy-root" -- obviously, I'm not on hardy so this command does not work. I tried replacing the word hardy with quantal, but it still finds no partition. What am i doing wrong?
[04:39] <RileyGuy> I want a super OS one that has the capabilities of ubuntu yet the functionality of windows
[04:40] <avid_fan> RileyGuy: Really?
[04:40] <nurow> lol
[04:40] <RileyGuy> yes :P
[04:40] <RileyGuy> brb
[04:40] <nurow> maybe he means the software compatibility of windows.
[04:40] <avid_fan> RileyGuy: I suggest you use *nix for a year.
[04:40] <she_dyed> nurow: don't type hardy, press TAB
[04:41] <willryder> O
[04:41] <willryder> O
[04:41] <nurow> she_dyed - for the whole path, or ust when i come to the word hardy?
[04:41] <willryder> I'm so tired of aliens zapping Mr. Dingle.
[04:41] <she_dyed> hardy nurow
[04:41] <willryder> Mr. Dingle is a good man.
[04:41] <willryder> He does not deserve alien zaps.
[04:42] <Ben64> willryder: this channel is for ubuntu support only, not whatever it is you're doing
[04:42] <nurow> she_dyed, you rock!
[04:42] <she_dyed> and thats on a bad day
[04:43] <she_dyed> welcome to tab-completion
[04:43] <nurow> but, now it complains that the drive is mounted.. i thought this stupid guide just told me to map it *sigh*
[04:43] <willryder> I was watching Mr. Dingle on ubuntu and this disgusts me so I think I need support.
[04:44] <bazhang> willryder, stop it
[04:44] <arkie> anyone a damn pro who can help me with vgaswitcheroo?
[04:45] <she_dyed> sorry not a vgan
[04:57] <semcentro> I don't get send the key gpg to server: http://ubuntuforum-pt.org/index.php?topic=104343.0
[04:59] <RileyGuy> avid_fan: wazzat?
[05:00] <michaela> hello i have a question about openvpn
[05:02] <michaela> can you guys see my messages
[05:02] <bazhang> michaela, whats the exact question
[05:04] <bazhang> !openvpn | michaela
[05:04] <nurow> Can anyone explain "lvreduce -L 1G" to me? This reduces the partition TO 1 Gig, or BY 1 gig?
[05:04] <michaela> how does it work. i know vpn is server client. so if i install the client do i need to install a server for it
[05:05] <bazhang> michaela, did you read the link ?
[05:06] <michaela> yes its just the website i went there but its confusing
[05:06] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/quantal/man8/lvreduce.8.html   nurow
[05:07] <bazhang> michaela, and you read the "howto" ?
[05:08] <nurow> thanks!
[05:08] <michaela> not yet give me a second
[05:12] <michaela> ok my question about openvpn is if i "sudo apt-get install openvpn" is that the client or the server
[05:13] <WotWhere> i have a HP Pavilion Laptop - the touchpad is very sensitive, is there a way to calibrate it?
[05:13] <KxTwo> Hey guys is there a reason why the version of eclipse in the software center is so old?
[05:16] <sp3ct3r> michaela: probably server...since vpn clients should already be supported
[05:16] <fedesilva> hi, can I create a bash function and execute it using the dash?
[05:16] <rob_p> michaela: It's both.  Openvpn's role is determined by it's config file.
[05:17] <michaela> rob_p have you installed it
[05:19] <nurow> Hmmm, when I do this in the ResizeEncryptedPartition guide I get: "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkswap -L swap_1 /dev/ubuntu/swap1" I get: "/dev/ubuntu/swap1: No such file or directory"
[05:19] <fedesilva> something like: function test(){ echo "hi $} And run it from the dash with some parameter
[05:20] <nurow> My previous command was succesful: sudo lvcreate -L 512m -n swap_1 ubuntu          Logical volume "swap_1" created
[05:20] <Allard> hello!  This may mean that you have
[05:22] <Allard> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[05:22] <Allard> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[05:22] <Allard> or been moved out of Incoming.
[05:22] <Allard> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[05:22] <FloodBot1> Allard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <Allard> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:23] <dwkw> I have a serious problem trying to even run ubuntu on my Alienware mx17 R4 , can't really even run the installer. Can't seem to figure out whats wrong.
[05:23] <dwkw> m17x*
[05:23] <Allard> did you see reokie?
[05:24] <Allard> reokie did you see
[05:24] <Fou> has any one have experence with plex media server?
[05:24] <dwkw> Problem is the screen doesn't even stay on when it runs. It allows me to select run off cd or install. after a few seconds it goes purple like it should then screen goes off. Doesn't do this with anything else. idk what else to do.
[05:25] <rob_p> michaela: yes, I have.
[05:25] <bazhang> Allard, why do you need wine? Ubuntu has skype for install
[05:25] <nurow> sudo mount /dev/ubuntu/root /mnt
[05:25] <nurow> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root,  missing codepage or helper program, or other error    In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try     dmesg | tail  or so
[05:25] <Allard> I need wine to run one dictionary
[05:25] <nurow> what would be causing this? I'm scared :(
[05:26] <Allard> ubuntu has skype for install but when I click it it gives me error like the one I posted above
[05:26] <rob_p> michaela: I use it all the time, but mostly on headless servers.
[05:26] <bazhang> Allard, how is that connected to skype?
[05:26] <nurow> has anyone had experience resizing encrypted partitions?
[05:26] <michaela> rob_p: what is a headless server
[05:26] <michaela> im a noob
[05:26] <Allard> These are two separate issues bazhang
[05:27] <rob_p> michaela: No local keyboard, mouse, monitor...
[05:27] <Allard> but both give me similar error
[05:27] <rob_p> michaela: servers...
[05:27] <she_dyed> nurow see if there are several to choose from, under /mnt
[05:27] <rob_p> michaela: but OpenVPN works great on desktop machines too.
[05:27] <she_dyed> hit tab twice or something
[05:27] <she_dyed> after /mnt
[05:28] <nurow> nothing
[05:28] <jaurrison> hey guys I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and the unity launcher is completely black
[05:28] <nurow> and if I try to mount the volume now it fails
[05:28] <she_dyed> yeah dmesg | tail
[05:28] <dwkw> at least you can install it. mine goes black after i hit ente to install and i get nothing after that.
[05:29] <Allard> so does somebody has a clue on what can be done?
[05:29] <basil_kurian_> Is it possible to increase the value of  'nofile' in /etc/security/limits.conf beyond  65535
[05:29] <nurow> she_dyed, any ideas? should I link you to the guide i'm following
[05:29] <rob_p> michaela: Have a look at their Website.  There's lots of great documentation available there too.
[05:29] <she_dyed> got to learn to read those messages
[05:29] <michaela> rob_p: do you have to buy service from a vpn server with openvpn or is open vpn some thing that i have to rig up
[05:29] <she_dyed> nurow: ^^
[05:29] <WACOMalt> Anyone know how to control the fan on a laptop where sensors-detect doesnt find any fan controllers? Windows is able to control the fan fine using a few free programs.
[05:29] <WACOMalt> Just trying to set it to 100% since this laptop's heat management is terrible
[05:30] <WACOMalt> Whats odd is Linux is able to step the fan speed up and down. if I hit 80 degrees it steps up, just not enough.
[05:30] <WACOMalt> so linux CAN control the fan somehow. but I have no idea how it's doing it
[05:30] <rob_p> michaela: It depends on what you are trying to accomplish, and what you plan on providing for yourself.
[05:30] <nurow> "dmesg | tail" is that for me?
[05:31] <she_dyed> yes nurow it is your best lead
[05:31] <nurow> oh god: http://pastebin.com/zTpjS3wz
[05:31] <jaurrison> so what's with the black unity launcher thing?
[05:32] <rob_p> michaela: If you are just looking to get connected to a, "Personal VPN Provider" then you can use OpenVPN as a client to connect to their service (for a fee, of course).
[05:32] <michaela> rob_p: i just wont to protect myself on public wifi and have true anonymity
[05:33] <Allard> what is that command she_dyed
[05:33] <rob_p> michaela: If you have access to a server somewhere and want to run your own VPN server, you can do that too.
[05:34] <nurow> actually i think those last 3 errors are from when I was trying to make the swap too large. I ultimately made the swap 512m because it wouldn't let me make my swap any larger. my old swap was 7.79G
[05:34] <michaela> rob_p: oh i see than openvpn is for making my own rig
[05:34] <rob_p> michaela: A VPN is a good choice for protecting your data on a public/untrusted network.  It's not really intended for anonymizing though.
[05:36] <poisoned_dragon> nurow: are you using a 32bit or 64bit os
[05:36] <michaela> ok thanks rob_p
[05:36] <rob_p> michaela: Yeah, you can, "roll your own" with OpenVPN.
[05:36] <poisoned_dragon> with a 32bit distro, your swap can't be bigger than 4gb.
[05:37] <nurow> 64bit
[05:37] <poisoned_dragon> ah, ok. Just checking
[05:37] <michaela> rob_p: i get it know thanks for you help
[05:38] <nurow> I am completely stumped and completely afraid :(
[05:38] <rob_p> michaela: welcome, good luck...
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> nurow, Did you just delete the swap or try top resize it?
[05:40] <she_dyed> 7 start from the beginning nurow
[05:41] <nurow> I was instructed to delete and recreate the swap by the ResizeEncryptedPartition guide.
[05:41] <nurow> here is a pastebin of everything: http://pastebin.com/PYrT3Zxs
[05:44] <she_dyed> you're following a guide that came out with hardy right nurow
[05:46] <nurow> yeah
[05:46] <nurow> this is the guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[05:47] <she_dyed> wait did you resize the swap thats on the lvm
[05:47] <nurow> yes, the guide has me remove that swap and then recreate it
[05:48] <nurow> the two commands: sudo lvcreate -L 512m -n swap_1 hardy
[05:48] <nurow> sudo mkswap -L swap_1 /dev/hardy/swap1
[05:49] <nurow> that second command in the guide has a typo between swap and 1, so I changed swap1 to swap_1
[05:51] <nurow> i'm at the part where i'm supposed to mount the volume to enter the new uuid into the fstab
[05:52] <Sutarmekeg> Hi.  Does anyone have any idea how I can stop my computer from randomly freezing?
[05:52] <starbuck> Sutarmekeg: buy a new one
[05:52] <rob_p> Sutarmekeg: Take it out of the freezer! :)
[05:53] <poisoned_dragon> The Peanut Gallery, ladies and gentlemen.
[05:54] <starbuck> Sutarmekeg:  just joking, that's defenitely a graphics card problem...
[05:55] <tush> Remote Desktop for ubuntu 12.04?
[05:55] <Sutarmekeg> In that short time, I froze again.
[05:55] <rob_p> Sutarmekeg: There are endless possibilities as to why it's freezing. Nobody here would know for sure without some background (what you've done recently to it, what troubleshooting steps you've taken, etc.).
[05:55] <Sutarmekeg> I know, I was getting to that.  I have filed a bug report.
[05:56] <Sutarmekeg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1154006
[05:56] <nurow> any ideas she_dyed?
[05:56] <she_dyed> nurow use the tab on your mount command
[05:56] <nurow> or others?
[05:56] <nurow> i did. it didnt show anything
[05:56] <nurow> i did it multiple times
[05:56] <she_dyed> no not at the end
[05:57] <tush> best Remote Desktop for ubuntu 12.04 64bit.
[05:57] <she_dyed> where you put ubuntu is wrong
[05:57] <Sutarmekeg> Memtest comes up clean, happens under 12.04 and 12.10 both 32 and 64 bit, and in 64 bit 13.04
[05:57] <Sutarmekeg> On fresh installs even, could take seconds or hours to freeze, but usually minutes.
[05:57] <mysteriousdarren> tush: what are you looking for? ease of use?
[05:57] <nurow> running that command adds an additional copy of this error to dmesg: bad geometry: block count 239861760 exceeds size of device (239453184 blocks)
[05:57] <Sutarmekeg> I can sometimes get a stretch of a few hours.
[05:58] <she_dyed> no hit up arrow to bring back that mount
[05:58] <tush> mysteriousdarren, yes easy and use full
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> Sutarmekeg, I this the only install of 12.04
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> any reinstalls per-say?
[05:58] <she_dyed> paste that line here nurow so i know we're looking at the same thing
[05:59] <she_dyed> dont hit enter, just paste the command here
[05:59] <tush> mysteriousdarren, like teamviewer..
[05:59] <mysteriousdarren> tush: I used teamviewer for my clients, but some of the linux hardcore choose other things
[05:59] <Sutarmekeg> I have reinstalled since the initial bug report
[05:59] <Ian_Corne> Does anyone know a free/OS webvpn server for ubuntu?
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> Sutarmekeg, Did you ever check the md5sum of the ISO?
[05:59] <cortexA9> in ubuntu there are a remote desktop integrated ?
[05:59] <Sutarmekeg> hardware is the same of course
[05:59] <tush> mysteriousdarren, but teamviewer is totally different thing
[06:00] <Sutarmekeg> I have never checked the md5sum of the .iso
[06:00] <deusr> hi people!
[06:00] <zvacet> tush:  you can use teamviewer in ubuntu
[06:00] <Sutarmekeg> might that tell me something?
[06:00] <tush> mysteriousdarren, i want remote  from ubuntu to windows and windows to ubuntu
[06:00] <nurow> sudo mount /dev/ubuntu/root /mnt
[06:00] <hg> hello could anyone please help me how to download youtube videos for xubuntu
[06:00] <nurow> this command adds that error to dmesg
[06:01] <she_dyed> dont repeat yourself nurow
[06:01] <deusr> anyone know of any app to configure the touchpad in ubuntu for various gestures?
[06:01] <she_dyed> i saw it the first time
[06:01] <tush> zvacet, to use Team viewer i have to run it everytime
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> Sutarmekeg, Hard to say, but a install that has no extra drivers....etc, and has these problems I would check the sum just to rule it out personally.
[06:01] <nurow> okay, sorry i thought you asked me to repaste
[06:01] <cortexA9> tush: with xrdp
[06:01] <zvacet> hg: with ff addons  ;)
[06:01] <mysteriousdarren> tush: at the same time? server use? Explain more in depth
[06:01] <she_dyed> repaste but not enter
[06:01] <deusr> someone?
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> Sutarmekeg,What is the ram on this computer? and chip speed?
[06:02] <Sutarmekeg> 2gb ram
[06:02] <tush> mysteriousdarren, so that i can connect from windows to ubuntu
[06:02] <cortexA9> tush: lookin for xrdp in ubuntu software center.
[06:02] <she_dyed> type the u in ubuntu in that command, hit tab
[06:02] <she_dyed> nuromw^
[06:02] <she_dyed> nurow^
[06:02] <Sutarmekeg> Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00GHz × 2
[06:03] <skp1> how can i remove unwanted grub menu entries?
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> Sutarmekeg, 32 bit install? have you looked at top to see if something is running hard and causing t to swap?
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> it*
[06:03] <zvacet> skp1: old kernels?
[06:03] <nurow> she_dyed: ubuntu/  uinput   urandom  usb/
[06:03] <mysteriousdarren> Vinagre, KRDC, Remmina, Teamviewer, Chrome Remote, Splashtop, even nomachine works
[06:04] <skp1> zvacet: no, grub-mkconfig keeps picking up old windows loader entries, i dont even have windows installed. this is on a usb drive
[06:04] <tush> cortexA9, remote desktop protocol (RDP)
[06:04] <Sutarmekeg> md5sum comes up clean
[06:04] <she_dyed> no nurow i mean type the mount command you pasted but
[06:04] <caius_> hi folks. i use ubuntu 12.04  and in the last period of time i can see that gnome system monitor is using a lot more resources than it did before. the problem is that the cooling of my laptop is constantly running and sometimes the unit shuts down because it gets overheated
[06:04] <Sutarmekeg> 32 bit install
[06:04] <zvacet> skp1: sudo update-grub
[06:04] <cortexA9> tush yes.
[06:04] <tush> cortexA9, will it work flawlessly
[06:05] <caius_> does anyone have a clue of what to do?
[06:05] <tush> cortexA9, without any fuss because im not hardcore linux user but love to use linux
[06:05] <Sutarmekeg> highest load on the cpu right now is the system monitor which I just ran to check it
[06:05] <poisoned_dragon> caius_: It's possible that the system monitor issues is a symptom of the over heating and not the cause.
[06:05] <poisoned_dragon> Are your vents clean?
[06:05] <Sutarmekeg> 12%
[06:06] <cortexA9> tush: you can connect with windows remote desktop in ubuntu.
[06:06] <caius_> the vents look clean
[06:06] <hg>  hello could anyone please help me how to download youtube videos for xubuntu
[06:06] <nurow> she_dyed: i'm confused. want me to press tab after the word ubuntu?
[06:06] <caius_> i also reinstalled ubuntu yesterday
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> Sutarmekeg, What s the computer model?
[06:06] <she_dyed> after the first u nurow (note to nurow: got to read about tab completion)
[06:06] <Sutarmekeg> Toshiba TX/66E
[06:06] <Sutarmekeg> bought in Japan
[06:07] <she_dyed> type partially the mount command
[06:07] <nurow> That is what I did. I pasted the results of it up above.
[06:07] <nurow> it returned those four directories
[06:07] <she_dyed> no you only typed u
[06:07] <she_dyed> type mount blah blah
[06:08] <she_dyed> but press the tab after the u in ubuntu
[06:08] <cortexA9> tush: the problem is you need to open the port on your router.
[06:08] <tush> cortexA9, ok let me try Xrdp
[06:08] <zvacet> hg: try http://www.downloadhelper.net/
[06:08] <nurow> sudo mount /dev/u TAB - right?
[06:09] <she_dyed> without the space after u
[06:09] <nurow> sudo mount /dev/u
[06:09] <nurow> ubuntu/  uinput   urandom  usb/
[06:09] <she_dyed> which one is the lvm
[06:10] <she_dyed> its not there right
[06:10] <hg> zvacet thanks dude i will try it
[06:10] <nurow> I assumed it was ubuntu. how can i ceck?
[06:10] <nurow> check*
[06:10] <she_dyed> go back to the guide
[06:10] <she_dyed> and that error message was /dev/mapper/ubuntuwhatever
[06:11] <she_dyed> so tab on the u after mapper/
[06:11] <nurow> LV Path                /dev/ubuntu/swap_1
[06:11] <she_dyed> i think thats why you're getting errors on mount
[06:12] <she_dyed> you were making it mount the wrong one
[06:12] <nurow> oh snap
[06:12] <nurow> let me try
[06:13] <Sutarmekeg> Also, not nvidia and not ivy bridge, those lucky people seem to have had their problems solved
[06:13] <hg> zvacet: it works great thanks alot
[06:13] <she_dyed> unless you want full accel on that hardware
[06:14] <nurow> same error on: sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root /mnt
[06:14] <nurow> sudo mount /dev/mapper/
[06:14] <nurow> control        crypt1         ubuntu-root    ubuntu-swap_1
[06:14] <nurow> if I try crypt1 it complains unknown filesystem.
[06:14] <zvacet> hg: yw  :)
[06:15] <she_dyed> ok nurow getting somewhere
[06:16] <she_dyed> but you can't skip to the next commands
[06:16] <she_dyed> without getting the prior ones correct first
[06:16] <she_dyed> thats why you get unknown fs
[06:17] <she_dyed> nurow so you have to go back up the page
[06:17] <she_dyed> backtrack and see what you missed
[06:17] <Sutarmekeg> froze again
[06:18] <Sutarmekeg> it sometimes happens whenever I stop using the computer for a minute or two, but then again, it could happen in the middle of doing something
[06:19] <nurow> would it be this command: "sudo lvcreate -L 512m -n swap_1 ubuntu"
[06:19] <she_dyed> i suspect it has more to do with the root part of lvm
[06:20] <she_dyed> not swap
[06:21] <she_dyed> sudo lvdisplay
[06:21] <she_dyed> will list it nurow
[06:23] <starkiller> hello
[06:23] <nurow> http://pastebin.com/LNyrcaVq
[06:23] <starkiller> I need help lol
[06:23] <nurow> this says dev/ubuntu/root was correct.. right?
[06:24] <soon>  Hi folks: how can I change the keyboard shortcut to display the workspace switcher? I can't find it in Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts
[06:24] <soon> (the default is SUPER + S )
[06:24] <Sutarmekeg> aaaand another freeze
[06:25] <starkiller> My hardrive is a partition mess, and its really hard to take control of partitions in xubuntu, its there a tool that makes partitioning and resizing easy?
[06:25] <sp3ct3r> gparted
[06:26] <Sutarmekeg> gparted
[06:26] <Sutarmekeg> run it from a live usb
[06:27] <starkiller> i got my instalation cd and i can use gparted from there in a live cd XD
[06:27] <starkiller> im gonna try that right now:P
[06:27] <Blue1> pardon my dumbess.  I installed xubuntu 12.04 and can't find var/log/messages
[06:28] <starkiller> thanks
[06:29] <she_dyed> nurow: ls /dev/mapper is there a crypt1 there?
[06:29] <nurow> yes
[06:29] <she_dyed> Blue1: a slash before var -> /var is missing
[06:29] <MarkPit> i'm trying to use xrdp and login to my Ubuntu 12.10 box from a WIndows box
[06:30] <Gr3mlin> hay all, have a Ubuntu server 12.04 related question
[06:30] <MarkPit> when i connect, i see my desktop wallpaper, but no launcher
[06:30] <cortexA9> me too.
[06:30] <cortexA9> mark
[06:30] <cortexA9> same problem.
[06:31] <MarkPit> did some searching and found a few people saying i need an .xsession file and the have suggestions on what to put in it
[06:31] <Gr3mlin> has been running really well, just put a new CPU in and it reboots just after grub. any takers?
[06:31] <MarkPit> but it still doesn't work
[06:31] <Blue1> she_dyed: yes, but that still did not find the file -- no version of linux I have used had a missing /var/log/messages  -- it just isn't there.
[06:31] <she_dyed> lose the last s
[06:32] <she_dyed> and i'll forget what you said about using linux
[06:32] <she_dyed> wait a sec
[06:32] <she_dyed> duh!
[06:33] <she_dyed> (for me)
[06:33] <Blue1> she_dyed: I am saying there is no file in /var/ anywhere for messages
[06:33] <she_dyed> but do you have the syslog rsyslog , etc Blue1
[06:33] <she_dyed> or are they missing as well
[06:34] <Blue1> she_dyed: syslog is there
[06:34] <Blue1> she_dyed: this was a complete fresh install - no upgrade
[06:34] <she_dyed> oh i remember an ubuntu bug report
[06:34] <she_dyed> wait how recent
[06:34] <Blue1> this is also xubuntu not ubuntu
[06:34] <Blue1> ok
[06:35] <Blue1> today
[06:35] <she_dyed> where the logs dont 'logrotate'
[06:35] <she_dyed> wait too new
[06:35] <she_dyed> sorry
[06:35] <Blue1> ?
[06:35] <Blue1> 12.04 is a year old
[06:35] <she_dyed> fresh should have  it though
[06:36] <Blue1> yes logs not rotated, but there is no file to rotate, that's what I am saying
[06:36] <she_dyed> right
[06:37] <she_dyed> my bad
[06:37] <th0r> Blue1: are you looking for messages?
[06:37] <Sutarmekeg> Anyone out there with random freezes that seemingly have no cause?
[06:37] <nurow> she_dyed, sorry to repeat, but did you see my message? crypt1 is in /dev/mapper
[06:37] <Blue1> th0r: I am looking for /var/log/messages
[06:37] <Blue1> and there isn't one
[06:37] <she_dyed> now run sudo cryptsetup status crypt1 nurow should get something
[06:37] <MarkPit> Blue1 i think different distros use different filenames for logs
[06:37] <th0r> Blue1: ubuntu has moved everything to /var/log/syslot
[06:38] <she_dyed> nurow you can paste 1 liners here even 2
[06:38] <th0r> Blue1: sorry...syslog
[06:38] <jony> if I pull the harddrive with ubuntu server from a PC with single core CPU, 512 RAM and I put it in a dual core, 4gb ram PC, it will work?
[06:38] <Blue1> th0r: thanks that's what I was looking for!
[06:38] <she_dyed> cool
[06:39] <nurow> /dev/mapper/crypt1 is active and is in use.
[06:39] <MarkPit> so, anyone have any xrdp knowledge or am i out of luck?
[06:39] <relipse> i'm trying to setup an email administration to add new mailboxes and aliases but i just got postfix admin setup and it is not forwarding my mail???
[06:40] <she_dyed> nurow so we ahve effectively done each step before fdisk
[06:41] <she_dyed> MarkPit: forum as a last resort
[06:41] <nurow> except fstab :(
[06:42] <MarkPit> she_dyed: OK, thanks!
[06:44] <Gr3mlin> when ubuntu server boots its ment to detect the CPU and all other hardware right?
[06:45] <Blue1> th0r: thanks -- http://pkill-9.com/ubuntu-12-04-varlogmessages/
[06:45] <she_dyed> nurow: df -h     pastebin
[06:46] <th0r> Blue1: np...took me a bit to figure it out at first myself.
[06:46] <nurow> she_dyed: http://pastebin.com/e8jgB3zp
[06:46] <Blue1> th0r: I will update my .bash_aliases, many thanks.
[06:46] <arkie> anyone here use turpial twitter client?
[06:47] <arkie> turpial twitter client keeps displaying the incorrect times of tweets
[06:47] <arkie> they are all 1 hour off..
[06:47] <Tex_Nick> Gr3mlin : yes, that's the general purpose of a kernel
[06:48] <Gr3mlin> ok, so after installing the new CPU the server keeps rebooting after GRUB does you know anything that could help me?
[06:49] <she_dyed> nurow you're not foinf any resize now are you
[06:49] <she_dyed> foinf/doing
[06:49] <nurow> what do you mean?
[06:50] <nurow> I've not done any resie steps other than exactly what is in the guide
[06:50] <nurow> resize*
[06:50] <subhendu> join #science
[06:51] <she_dyed> but you ran the sudo pvchange
[06:51] <she_dyed> we have to unlock to make the /etc/fstab
[06:52] <Tex_Nick> Gr3mlin : run an update ... if you still have problems,report back
[06:52] <Gr3mlin> how does one run an update from grub?
[06:52] <nurow> ah, how do I undo that?
[06:53] <CorySimmons> Is there any way to give Mongo permissions to write?
[06:53] <CorySimmons> I'm trying to share a folder on vbox with my host machine (Windows), and when I try to use Mongo to save to the folder, it throws an error
[06:53] <stepcellwolf> Hi I'm having some troubles with Lenovo thinkpad Edge 330, either I press shutdown from GUI or from command shutdown -h now it restarts the laptop. Additionally I had install the laptop-mode-tools but does not fix the problem. Any ideas.
[06:53] <CorySimmons> So is there any way to detect if there is a "mongo" user or anything?
[06:53] <CorySimmons> Is there a list of users I can somehow fetch?
[06:53] <nurow> she_dyed: maybe I misunderstood you. I am doing a resize in that the whole purpose of me doing this is that my boot partition is too small for me to run updates any more
[06:54] <she_dyed> nurow: pvdisplay seems to reflect those changes
[06:56] <Gr3mlin> Tex_Nick: how do i update from grub
[06:56] <she_dyed> nurow ok theres a y/n so here sudo pvchange -x y /dev/mapper/crypt1
[06:57] <kewel> is there any reason not to use ext4 on an older computer?
[06:58] <zanegray> nope its pretty rock solid
[06:58] <nurow> want me to run that again? she_dyed?
[06:58] <kewel> zanegray: cool thx
[06:58] <she_dyed> its a y instead of n
[06:58] <she_dyed> in there
[06:59] <she_dyed> nurow^
[06:59] <she_dyed> different thistime
[07:01] <she_dyed> are we in a live CD session nurow
[07:01] <nurow> yes we are in a livecd session
[07:02] <nurow> did I use an 'n' before? I thought I used 'y'. You are saying I should have used y, right?
[07:02] <crazy2k> Where's the right place to put an "export http_proxy=" line so the proxy is set automatically at startup?
[07:02] <ChetCoenen> Hey, quick question for anyone. I have been trying to set up Ubuntu 12.10, and got it updating the full system in terminal, when suddenly the feed to my monitor stops on the motherboard graphics card, and aftermarket
[07:02] <ChetCoenen> Any fix?
[07:02] <she_dyed>  n is right to lock it, that was the step
[07:02] <nurow> sudo pvchange -x y /dev/mapper/crypt1
[07:02] <nurow>   Physical volume "/dev/mapper/crypt1" is already allocatable
[07:03] <nurow> 1 physical volume changed
[07:03] <she_dyed> cool so
[07:03] <arkie> does anyone know if/when google will release the drive client on linux?
[07:03] <arkie> it's kind of annoying how it isn't available...
[07:03] <she_dyed> lets try to mount it but maybe not to mnt
[07:05] <nurow> same thing with sudo mount /dev/ubuntu/root /home/ubuntu
[07:05] <she_dyed> i know there was an extra command needed for liveCD sessions to affect LVM
[07:06] <she_dyed> and the writer even said, 'Most docs leave this out'
[07:06] <she_dyed> nurow let me boot my laptop
[07:06] <ChetCoenen> I have been trying to set up Ubuntu 12.10, and got it updating the full system in terminal, when suddenly the feed to my monitor stops on the motherboard graphics card, and aftermarket card as well, any fix?
[07:06] <nurow> you are my hero she_dyed
[07:06] <she_dyed> glad you're patient
[07:06] <kubanc> hellow! Any suggestion what's the best virtual router to have in virtualbox?
[07:07] <alyaman> i'm so blind
[07:08] <CorySimmons> Can I combine flags like:    usermod -aG ?
[07:09] <dLurker> #bitcoin
[07:09] <dLurker> help change channel
[07:11] <nurow> dlurker use /j #channel
[07:11] <dLurker> thx
[07:12] <cortexA9> is it possible to make a hotspot with ubuntu ?
[07:13] <arkie> hey guys
[07:13] <arkie> quick question
[07:13] <arkie> im new to ubuntu and linux
[07:13] <arkie> how do you update an app
[07:13] <cortexA9> hi
[07:13] <FloodBot1> arkie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:13] <ejv> !enter | arkie
[07:13] <arkie> say ive downloaded it via the terminal and a new version is released how do i update?
[07:13] <cortexA9> arkie: in terminal, sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:13] <arkie> does it work in a similar way to windows?
[07:14] <arkie> so if i run both those commands once in a while it goes through all my apps?
[07:14] <auronandace> arkie: it is best to stick to what is in the repos
[07:14] <ejv> arkie: please refer to the documentation, all your answers are there.
[07:14] <ejv> arkie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Packages_and_Package_Management
[07:16] <root_ender|> hola
[07:16] <cortexA9> hi
[07:16] <she_dyed> nurow that /home/ubuntu is that created just now
[07:16] <ejv> kubanc: that's a good question to ask in #vbox
[07:17] <nurow> she_dyed, I'm not sure what you mean
[07:17] <rystic> anyone around?
[07:17] <ejv> !ask | rystic
[07:17] <nurow> that folder is the livecd's home folder
[07:17] <she_dyed> nurow make a temp mount point like sudo mkdir /mylvm
[07:17] <nurow> k
[07:18] <she_dyed> so instead of mounting to /mnt
[07:18] <she_dyed> point to /mylvm
[07:18] <she_dyed> damm cantt find that website
[07:18] <nurow> done, same error :(
[07:18] <nurow> mount /dev/ubuntu/root /mylvm
[07:18] <nurow> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[07:19] <she_dyed> oh no wait waht about>  mount /dev/ubuntu/root /mylvm
[07:19] <she_dyed> sudo
[07:19] <nurow> sorry, I did do sudo, just didn't paste it
[07:19] <auronandace> nurow: what are you trying to do?
[07:20] <she_dyed> no look nurow no mapper
[07:20] <nurow> well, i get the same error with both paths
[07:20] <nurow> sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root /mylvm
[07:20] <nurow> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root,
[07:21] <she_dyed> auronandace: i'll point you to his guide http://is.gd/s66ykL
[07:21] <she_dyed> nurow no mapper
[07:21] <nurow> auronandace, I'm trying to resize an encrypted partition using that guide. While resizing, I ran into an error where I can no longer mount my partition to move onto the next step.
[07:21] <she_dyed> just sudp mount /dev/ubuntu/root /mylvm
[07:21] <she_dyed> sudo*
[07:22] <ejv> I know this isn't what you want to hear, but you shouldn't be encrypting anything or implementing LVM unless you're an expert in these areas. They create support issues for yourself.
[07:22] <nurow> sudo mount /dev/ubuntu/root /mylvm
[07:22] <nurow> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root,
[07:22] <ejv> !pastebin | nurow
[07:23] <nurow> ejv, I require encryption because of the work I do. And thanks, I've actually been using pastebin
[07:24] <auronandace> nurow: that guide uses hardy as an example, a lot might have changed since 2008
[07:25] <nurow> I know :( but I haven't been able to find any updated guide, and now I'm stuck with this error and no access to my harddrive.
[07:27] <ejv> I'm just glancing at the guide, but it appears wrong in a few areas, and also could result in loss of data.
[07:27] <nurow> I've noticed :(
[07:28] <ejv> I would restore from backup, probably save time that way.
[07:28] <helmut_> hi
[07:28] <nurow> I only have a backup of my files, not all my applications and full drive, etc. I couldn' figure out how to make a full image of the encrypted drive
[07:28] <nurow> it would take me a month to restore all of that
[07:29] <she_dyed> iirc the command (before the mount) is vgchange -a y nurow
[07:29] <ejv> nurow: dd is a great tool for that
[07:30] <nurow> reports "2 logical volumes now active" BUT,  I still get the exact same error she_dyed
[07:30] <she_dyed> =(
[07:30] <ejv> nurow: if you're continuing to mess with the disk, i would probably do an image right now, and experiment on that before doing further damage (I have no idea what has or hasn't been done of course)
[07:31] <rymate1234> hi
[07:31] <rymate1234> having problems compiling something
[07:31] <rymate1234> I get the error
[07:31] <rymate1234> In file included from playfun.cc:43:0:
[07:31] <rymate1234> marionet.pb.h:9:42: fatal error: google/protobuf/stubs/common.h: No such file or directory
[07:31] <ejv> !pastebin | rymate1234
[07:32] <rymate1234> oh ok
[07:32] <rymate1234> that was the wrong paste anyway
[07:32] <nurow> ejv, would it be helpful if I shared the line in the guide where the thing breaks? I've followed the guide exactly correct up until that point
[07:32] <she_dyed> that was my last chance, nurow. If you'd like, I'd sort out what/why theres /ubuntu and /mapper/ubuntu but that would take more time,
[07:33] <rymate1234> here's the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700764/
[07:33] <she_dyed> but i cant stay awake much longer
[07:33] <nurow> i have all the time in the world. this is my baby and I need help :)
[07:33] <nurow> oh :(
[07:33] <she_dyed> the combined
[07:34] <she_dyed> new size' nurow, actually biggertan before?
[07:34] <she_dyed> than*
[07:34] <ejv> rymate1234: I suggest contacting the project developers, we can't support issues like that.
[07:34] <she_dyed> or constant
[07:34] <rymate1234> oh ok
[07:34] <nurow> new size should be smaller
[07:34] <nurow> my drive was 935g and i made it 915G
[07:34] <Dave77> do I have to format my usb stick with linux FS to be able to write to it from PHP?
[07:35] <Gr3mlin> guess what it was!
[07:35] <Gr3mlin> RAM!
[07:35] <nurow> I will literally paypal some $100 if they can help me fix this
[07:35] <Gr3mlin> bloody ram.
[07:35] <auronandace> nurow: why would you need that much space?
[07:35] <she_dyed> nurow i've seen other lvm resize links, warning about smaller
[07:35] <nurow> auronandace: uhhh, because that is the size of my harddrive??
[07:36] <auronandace> nurow: ah sorry, i thought you meant you gave ubuntu a root partition of that size
[07:36] <rifter> okay guys I have an incredibly simple question. I am trying to create a new partition on a new 4TB disk. However, every tool has some problem. cfdisk said it would create a 4TB partition but the partition only ended up being 1.7TB instead. gparted said the same thing but it tried to create liek a 7TB partition even though it said that it was making a 4TB one, and that didn't work. plain old fdisk, well, on that I seem to have had a probl
[07:36] <rifter> em setting the sector size or something correctly
[07:36] <she_dyed> but once he gets the mount working, he'd be almost done
[07:36] <nurow> OH, lol
[07:37] <nurow> nah i'm shrinking my main partition so I can increase the size of the root partition
[07:37] <rifter> I can pastebin the gparted error if you like. I hate it when gparted breaks
[07:38] <rifter> seems like tehre was some otehr tool but IO forget what it was, and the Ubuntu docs only  talk about gparted
[07:39] <ejv> rifter: parted
[07:39] <nurow> she_dyed, on the /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root vs. /dev/ubuntu/root.. both of those pathes are basically in this guide in their hardy version... do you think it is a problem with the guide where it had me mess up my partitions?
[07:39] <rifter> ejv, ok thanks I will try that
[07:40] <she_dyed> nurow this page says the physical partition should now match the new size http://is.gd/Z69Rk3
[07:41] <she_dyed> idk if your guide has that step but seems your system responds the same whether its 'mapper' or 'ubuntu'
[07:41] <ejv> rifter: you need an EFI standard BIOS and you need to use a GUID partition table (GPT) to address 4TB of disk.
[07:41] <ejv> rifter: `man parted` should suffice
[07:42] <nurow> my guide had no references to fsck like ths guide does
[07:43] <she_dyed> wait thats without LUKS
[07:43] <she_dyed> ignore that then
[07:43] <nurow> but this guide is not for luks
[07:43] <nurow> ya
[07:45] <nurow> http://www.gigahype.com/resize-luks-encryped-lvm-partition/
[07:45] <nurow> should i follow that?
[07:47] <nurow> http://pastebin.com/5SSV3REg
[07:47] <nurow> a wrongly sized partition table is definitely the problem here. I'm not sure how to tell which partition is wrongly sized though
[07:48] <ejv> I'd pastebin the commands you already performed, in order, so someone can make sense of what's happened
[07:48] <nurow> sure, I'll do a new one, one sec
[07:49] <rifter> ejv, yeah I am looking at that, two things pop up.. it seems not to support ext4 although I don't think that has to be a parameter at the partition level, and it doesn;t show me a number I can use o say just use the whole disk
[07:50] <rifter> ejv, the user's manual on gnu's site, and the man page don't even talk about ext4.. they just say it does not support ext3 and talks about that you can only set ext2
[07:50] <nurow> several commands are now cut off in the command window, but here it is: http://pastebin.com/3LmqE1rz
[07:51] <rifter> ejv, seems like tehre was another gui tool that was more forgiving, but I forget what. Maybe you can see what gparted is doing.. let me pastebin that error
[07:52] <nurow> wait, this command, I think this must be it:
[07:52] <ejv> rifter: you're partitioning, not creating a filesystem, these are completely different operations that are independent of one another
[07:52] <nurow> sudo lvreduce -L -10G /dev/ubuntu/root
[07:52] <nurow> how do I reverse that?
[07:53] <rifter> ejv, yes I know that, it's just there is a partition type part and for soem reason parted and gparted want to set that to a filesystem specific thing instead of just using one for linux
[07:55] <ejv> rifter: you are mistaken
[07:56] <ejv> rifter: this should basically be a handful of commands: parted /dev/sdX; mklabel gpt; mkpart primary <start> <end>
[07:56] <Dave77> how do i make a usb stick global writable in fstab?
[07:56] <nurow> tried to extend, but I don't have enough space
[07:57] <rifter> I used to do this manually with cfdisk and fdisk before, but for some reaosn they are not working.. anyway this is the result when I tell gparted to make a partition of size 3815447 for ext4 which the former is the default: "partition length of<PHONE_NUMBER> sectors exceeds the
[07:57] <rifter>              msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of<PHONE_NUMBER>:
[07:57] <nurow> http://pastebin.com/m1Lex55y
[07:57] <ejv> Dave77: man mount
[07:57] <ejv> Dave77: look under "Filesystem Independent Mount Options"; there are a myriad of options available.
[07:57] <alimj1> Dave77: also man fstab
[07:58] <rifter> ejv, yes I know that but for instance this is the syntax for mkpart: Command: mkpart part-type [fs-type] start end
[07:58] <rifter>  fs-type must be on of these supported file systems:
[07:58] <rifter>     ext2
[07:58] <rifter>     fat32
[07:58] <rifter>     fat16
[07:58] <rifter>     HFS
[07:58] <FloodBot1> rifter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:58] <rifter>     linux-swap
[07:58] <ejv> rifter: the square brackets indicate optional field, which is a common unix/gnu-linux standard
[07:59] <rifter> ejv yah sure
[07:59] <rifter> but when I don't specify those fields it asks me
[07:59] <NaGeL_Work> hello i have this little question can someone help me out? http://askubuntu.com/questions/280586/screen-and-webcam-recording-with-nvidia-bumblebee
[08:00] <rifter> ejjv and as I ssaid gpaerted explicitly requires choosing a filesystem from the dropdown. What it actual;ly does wih the partition when you do that I dunno
[08:01] <rifter> ejv, so there is NO option fror not speciftying file system types
[08:01] <rifter> ejv,  here I will pasted na dyou wills ee what I mean
[08:01] <ejv> rifter: I believe you, although it's odd. Specify ext2, it doesn't really matter.
[08:02] <she_dyed> nurow once you get the reported size to the partition table size matching you should be ok with moutn
[08:02] <she_dyed> mount
[08:02] <qiyong> does postfix support sqlite now?
[08:02] <rifter> ejv, http://pastebin.com/RZSUepF1
[08:02] <rifter> ejv, yeah I thi nk you are right about that
[08:02] <nurow> any idea what command i need to use for that?
[08:02] <qiyong> i don't find postfix sqlite pkg. does postfix support sqlite now?
[08:02] <rifter> ejv, of course I am still hung up on telling it the end
[08:02] <rifter> ejv, I dunno what to tell it for that
[08:03] <rifter> ejv, fdisk and cfdisk will teell you what it thinks the end is
[08:03] <nurow> sudo pvresize --setphysicalvolumesize 915G /dev/mapper/crypt1
[08:03] <nurow> I think this is the command where I messed it up
[08:03] <rifter> ejv, but I can't see how to set  that in parted
[08:04] <rifter> ejv, or rather how to query that
[08:04] <nurow> my physical drive was set to 931.27 before
[08:04] <she_dyed> nurow: i saw where you had to retry
[08:05] <she_dyed> so, this was reszie and encrypt togetherright nurow
[08:05] <she_dyed> resize
[08:05] <rifter> ejv, okay looking at cfdisk, it looks like it set explicitly a file system type somehow on the drive I partitioned during install
[08:05] <ejv> rifter: if you want to fill the entire disk, use 1 -1
[08:05] <ikk-> at cli, how to run a app at diff language ? export LC_ALL=xxx ./app ?
[08:05] <ejv> !enter | rifter
[08:05] <she_dyed> g2g nurow sorry
[08:05] <nurow> well i was decrypting. the drive was already encrypted
[08:05] <nurow> okay :(
[08:06] <ejv> ikk-: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:06] <nurow> anyway I can contact you in the future?
[08:06] <ikk-> ejv: I just want run it this time
[08:06] <nurow> since you and I were so close :(
[08:06] <thunderclaws> Hello, can someone please recommend me (or link me to a good page) for terminal colors that are least eye straining?
[08:06] <she_dyed> i'll be here 2mrw (dayoff), and in megworld.co.uk #megworld all the ttime
[08:07] <she_dyed> almost
[08:07] <nurow> thanks so much for everything
[08:08] <she_dyed> thunderclaws: google "crunchbang' 'colors' 'terminal' they have a forum post exclusively for that (minus quotes)
[08:08] <she_dyed> you're welcome nurow, gnite
[08:08] <ikk-> ejv: just that app need run at that language , I think is : LC_ALL=xxx ./app
[08:08] <ikk-> ejv: yes , it works. thank you
[08:08] <brayn> Morning! I'm having troubles with pidgin notifications under 12.10, I think the problem is the following bug but I don't understand what the fix is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1040259 thanks
[08:09] <rifter> ejv, I am not using enter as punctuation, I am writing more than will fit on one line so the client ends up breaing it up
[08:10] <thunderclaws> she_dyed Thanks!
[08:10] <rifter> ejv, ok I will try doing that with parted.. you mean tell it to start on 1 and when it says end say 1 there too?
[08:11] <ejv> brayn: I'd contact them and let them tell you what it is: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/TipsForBugReports
[08:12] <brayn> ejv: From what I can see on launchpad the 'bug' is marked as fixed. I don't understand how can I get the fixes
[08:13] <ejv> rifter: "1" and "-1" are special parted identifiers which signal the tool to use a 1024KiB offset for proper 4K alignment
[08:13] <rifter> ejv, hmm well even when I do parted -a optimal /dev/sdb and then do mkpart with no options, it says "Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance."
[08:13] <rifter> ejv, oh ok 1 and -1
[08:14] <ejv> rifter: this disk is empty I imagine, just experiment and observe the results; if you make a mistake, try again. No damage can be done at this stage. To view your changes type 'print'. I really suggest reading the documentation on this though.
[08:15] <Sakara> Hi all, I am trying to launch cheese on Ubuntu 12.04. It is crashing each time. Does anyone have any suggestions how to troubleshoot this?
[08:15] <rifter> ejv, yeah it's empty.. the tolls just seem to be broken. parted gives the same error as gparted "Error: partition length of<PHONE_NUMBER> sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of<PHONE_NUMBER>"
[08:15] <rifter> ejv, which, I did not tell it to do that
[08:18] <nurow> ejv, could you explain this command to me? mke2fs -S /dev/XXX && fsck /dev/XXX
[08:19] <nurow> I see a forum thread with someone recommending it, but when I run it, it warns me:
[08:19] <nurow> /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root contains a file system with errors, check forced. Resize inode not valid.  Recreate<y>?
[08:20] <ejv> nurow: pretty straight foward mke2fs creates an ext family filesystem (-S means write superblock) and then runs a check.
[08:21] <ejv> rifter: I have no idea what you just said. You created a gpt label correct? Then created a single partition: `mkpart primary blah 1 -1`
[08:21] <Dave77> what command do i type to format a usb stick as ext2?
[08:21] <ejv> Dave77: man mkfs.ext2
[08:21] <nurow> I think this command just destroyed my file system
[08:21] <nurow> it wasn't compatible with luks.
[08:22] <ejv> Dave77: essentially `sudo mkfs.ext2 /dev/<target>`
[08:22] <rifter> ejv, yes and it gives that same error as gparted. This site seems to indicate that msdos style partitions are limited to 2TB http://foorum.hinnavaatlus.ee/viewtopic.php?p=7609221&sid=7a8e6f98aab2156f3d46db03aa02eb86
[08:23] <ejv> rifter: do you have an EFI standard BIOS that would support a disk of this size?
[08:24] <rifter> ejv, which is interesting. at first I thought it was saying that itw as trying to create like a 7TB partition when I told it to do a 4TB one. Yes I believe I do have a bios that supports a disk of this size. It shows as the right size in the BIOS
[08:24] <ejv> rifter: pastebin the process: parted /dev/<target>; mklabel gpt; mkpart primary fs 1 -1;
[08:24] <nurow> it is literally overwriting every single inode
[08:24] <nurow> DAMMIT
[08:24] <ejv> nurow: ?
[08:25] <nurow> you told me that command was just a check!
[08:25] <nurow> did you not see the second part of it?!
[08:25] <rifter> ejv, okay I pastebinned th eprevious one.. I'll do what you said explicitly
[08:25] <ejv> nurow: read what I wrote carefully, I said it creates an ext filesystem and then performs a check (of it)
[08:25] <rifter> ejv, ooooh I did not do mklabel
[08:26] <nurow> my data is gone... right
[08:27] <bal> Hello, I did a mistake chowning a local user to a bunch of nonprivileged directories but fortunately I did CTRL+C in time. I wonder if the action took place ?!
[08:28] <ejv> nurow: no, but you just made it much more difficult
[08:28] <alimj1> bal: chown -R or without -R
[08:28] <bal> with -R
[08:28] <nurow> why didn't you try to stop me :
[08:28] <nurow> :(
[08:28] <nurow> how do i reverse this?
[08:29] <alimj1> bal: Some of them took place. Some not
[08:29] <Reiji_> hi
[08:29] <alimj1> bal: Simply change chown back to original user
[08:30] <ejv> nurow: You made no indication that you were thinking of running that command; I thought my description would indicate it's a rather destructive operation.
[08:30] <Reiji_> I've a bad problem since today my ubuntu doesn't wanna boot, yesterday it just worked fine. I'm useing ubuntu 12.04 and if I boot in the recovery mode it says filesysteme read-only
[08:30] <ejv> nurow: did you make the image of the disk, using dd, like I suggested earlier?
[08:30] <bal> alimj1, Well, there are a bunch of vhosts and now I dont know which user belongs too...:(
[08:31] <alimj1> bal: chown -R --from:baduser:baduser gooduser:gooduser
[08:31] <nurow> you have to make it hurt worse, don't you? :(
[08:31] <Reiji_> but there not really fail messages while I try to boot it it it just stopps after a time to continue
[08:31] <rifter> ejv, well mklabel was what I needed to do. for some reason I thought that was to make BSD style disk labels. doing what you said worked perfectly! Thanks. Now gparted is formatting the partition to ext4
[08:31] <alimj1> bal: I do not get the point? You mean you do not know the correct user for vhost?
[08:32] <zamba> i started moving some files and then the gui froze and the copy dialog disappeared.. but the job is still running.. how can i kill it?
[08:32] <ejv> rifter: simpler to use the command line for these things; sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/<target>
[08:32] <nurow> ejv do you really think it is recoverable? if not I'd like to just move on.
[08:33] <bal> alimj1, Yes, I don't know the correct user since there are 100+
[08:33] <alimj1> bal: 100+ users on the same machine? Is it a web server?
[08:33] <rifter> ejv,  true I just, well, I was being lazy :) anyway thanks so much. the errors went away using a gpt disklabel .. it was using an msdos one before and that is why it was not working
[08:34] <rifter> and hey now I know how to use them properly
[08:35] <bal> alimj1, 100+ vhosts on the same machine
[08:35] <cfzvgubhnjim> is there file synchronization software available in the repos, that has a nice tree view for what is going to be transfered? (something like freefilesync's tree view: http://i.imagebanana.com/img/nfj7vxyr/Selection_009.png )
[08:35] <ejv> nurow: You could possibly boot your system using the Ubuntu LiveCD environment or Knoppix (I'm old school like that) and then manually "guess" how your partition was laid out prior. The major issue is that mkfs is a destructive operation that writes new superblocks, inodes, bitmaps, etc. throughout the target partition. Any data at those locations were overwritten by the new structure.
[08:36] <alimj1> bal: You said you Ctrl+C during the process. Why cant you check within the remaining files?
[08:36] <rifter> ejv, quick question.. usually when I have done /etc/fstab I use the old naming convention of /dsv/sdb1 for instance.. but Ubuntu does support using uuids.. I vaguely remember mucking with that before but I forget that process
[08:37] <bal> alimj1 What do you mean with "remaing files ' ?
[08:37] <ejv> rifter: sudo blkid
[08:37] <rifter> ejv, thanks
[08:37] <alimj1> bal: If you broke the process, Some files should be still with correct user:group
[08:39] <schroedingers_ka> hello, i got a question... i would like to try this android-ubuntu connection... like its presented on the ubuntu website... where do i get the needed software? wasn't able to find anything useful yet
[08:40] <bal> alimj1, I'll just wait and see if someone encounter any problem with this, thank you for your time.
[08:40] <igoryonya> my software-center doesn't work anymore. I start it. I just see a blank window in the window frame. After a few hours, it's still a blank window. and the processor is racing, when it's open.
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> schroedingers_ka, The ubuntu touch or the desktop?
[08:40] <ejv> poor nurow, I feel bad for him :\
[08:41] <alimj1> bal: I hope that it should not be a problem.
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> schroedingers_ka, The channel you would want for ubuntu touch is #ubuntu-touch You just add the phablet PPA there are directions.
[08:42] <somsip> ejv: he didn't read your instructions, didn't check the command you gave him, didn't heed your advice to backup first. It is sad, but it isn't your fault
[08:42] <schroedingers_ka> @igoryonya, well, i mean that ubuntu for android thing... so i guess the propper answer is desktop
[08:42]  * rifter jumps for joy - Thank you ejv now it is all working properly and I can start rsyncing my stuff. I'll try and return the favor and start cominghere again so I can help people too
[08:44] <ejv> rifter: you're welcome, help others when you can ^_^
[08:44] <igoryonya> shroedingers_ka, didn't understand you
[08:45] <ejv> somsip: Indeed, I thought I was quite clear.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !android
[08:45] <somsip> ejv: it's common to blame others for one's own mistakes. It's a learning thing. he just had a hard lesson with this one, that's all
[08:46] <schroedingers_ka> pardon... i'll try it again
[08:46] <cfhowlett> schroedingers_ka, as it's not yet released ...
[08:46] <schroedingers_ka> oh okay, that made a long text short...
[08:46] <schroedingers_ka> then i'll keep waiting...
[08:47] <igoryonya> my software-center doesn't work anymore. I start it. I just see a blank window in the window frame. After a few hours, it's still a blank window. and the processor is racing, when it's open. How do I make it work again?
[08:47] <Nirkus> hey, ubuntu 12.04 changed the "emulator" used by virt-manager for new machines from "kvm" to "kvm-spice" and now booting a new machine with a SLES10 install DVD fails (hangs and burns one CPU with 100%). Does anyone know hoe to change the emulator for new machines back to "kvm"? Trying to find the setting...
[08:47] <michaela> does anyone know of any good free pptp vpn services outside of the US
[08:47] <yoona> I regret that I hadn't learn English well!
[08:52] <nurow> ejv, my computer froze
[08:52] <nurow> I never got to see your answer... do you think it is possible for me to recover from this, or should I just move on?
[08:55] <igoryonya> my software-center doesn't work anymore. I start it. I just see a blank window in the window frame. After a few hours, it's still a blank window. and the processor is racing, when it's open. How do I make it work again?
[08:56] <hoxer> Guys .. i'm in dispair
[08:56] <cfhowlett> *despair"
[08:56] <hoxer> thx
[08:57] <ejv> nurow: You could possibly boot your system using the Ubuntu LiveCD environment or Knoppix (I'm old school like that) and then manually "guess" how your partition was laid out prior. The major issue is that mkfs is a destructive operation that writes new superblocks, inodes, bitmaps, etc. throughout the target partition. Any data at those locations were overwritten by the new structure.
[08:57] <hoxer> despair it is. I'm editing files that I don't own through gedit/sftp.. everytime I save.. I get ownership of the file. How is that even possible
[08:57] <hoxer> it feels like a giant hole in the permission system.
[08:58] <vlt> hoxer: Maybe the old file is removed and a new one is written.
[08:58] <ejv> nurow: There's also the fact you have a layer an additional layers of LVM and encryption, which makes getting at the data more difficult. That said, it's not impossible to recover data, but it's outside the realm of support I can provide.
[08:59] <hoxer> vlt: Hmm, that's a good suggestion.. I wouldn't know how to check it though
[09:00] <vlt> hoxer: If you’re allowed to write to the file and to delete it then it doesn’t sound like a giant security issue to me … just weird editor behaviour.
[09:00] <mindbender1> is there a way of knowing where `apt-get source` puts its files
[09:00] <vlt> hoxer: Maybe using inotify
[09:01] <vlt> hoxer: inotify-tools ships with inotify-wait or -watch. It tells you what happens to the file in detail.
[09:01] <hoxer> I guess I'm not the only one.. people collaborating through sftp must experience this frequently, if using gedit
[09:01] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi all, How can I make an ftp server on my localhost address ?
[09:01] <hoxer> thx for tip
[09:01] <alimj1> mindbender: /etc/apt /var/lib/apt
[09:02] <alimj1> mindbender1: Why do you want that? Do you require the config files or cache files?
[09:02] <mindbender1> I want to view the source file
[09:02] <mindbender1> I want it to put it at /usr/local/src
[09:02] <vlt> hoxer: For a multi user env you should propably switch to a “real” network file system. (€ 0.02)
[09:03] <hoxer> vlt: yeah, but the boss is way to cheap
[09:04] <vlt> hoxer: To setup NFS on the server?
[09:05] <alimj1> mindbender1: You want to modify & compile a custom apt?
[09:05] <petan> vlt: what is real nfs
[09:05] <MoL0ToV> someone can help me with grub? i can't understand why my grub menu don't appears and boots automatically a entry. i want to select manually
[09:05] <hoxer> vlt: our setup is so disgraceful, and we're not given time to set it up perfectly
[09:06] <hoxer> vlt but thanks again, i'll have to go back to work
[09:07] <vlt> petan: Not ‘real nfs’ but ‘“real” nfs’ ;-)
[09:07] <petan> vlt: anyway
[09:07] <MoL0ToV> someone can help me with grub? i can't understand why my grub menu don't appears and boots automatically a entry. i want to select manually. i runned update-grub then grub-install, but at bot the menu don't appears
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> !repeat | MoL0ToV
[09:08] <woo> !list | woo
[09:08] <xrfang> hi, anyone using gnome shell?  I would like to know how to call out the notification bar without using keyboard Super+M, it should work move the mouse to bottom edge of screen, but doesn't.
[09:09] <michaela> is there any good free pptp vpn services outside the US
[09:15] <igoryonya> my software-center doesn't work anymore. I start it. I just see a blank window in the window frame. After a few hours, it's still a blank window. and the processor is racing, when it's open. How do I make it work again?
[09:19] <LinuxHorst> igoryonya, start the software center from the terminal with "software-center" and look what the terminal says
[09:25] <igoryonya> LinuxHorst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700929/
[09:27] <ejv> MoL0ToV: usually pressing the Escape key right after the BIOS loads will be enough to stop the bootloader.
[09:29] <CrazyBird> Hello! I need help with this. I've set up ubuntu 12.10, installed LAMP and OpenVPN. After a bit of set-up work, I can connect to the VPN from the LAN and from outside (Internet). The problem is I can ping the server from the LAN, but not from outside. The server can't ping the client when it is outside the LAN. I have firewall disabled in the server and configured my router to bypass VPN port. What can I do?
[09:30] <Inoki> Who's got experience with plank here?
[09:30] <rymate1234> plank?
[09:30] <Inoki> Yer, Plank dock.
[09:30] <rymate1234> as in the elementary dock?
[09:30] <rymate1234> the people over at #elementary might ;)
[09:31] <Inoki> Ok, I'll try, thanks.
[09:32] <CrazyBird> Can anyone help me, please?
[09:33] <arkie_> Hey guys, I need some help.
[09:34] <cutie> omg
[09:34] <cutie> CrazyBird: arkie_: ask away
[09:34] <arkie_> These are the commands I've run
[09:34] <arkie_> git clone https://github.com/pfn/keepasshttp.git /tmp/keepasshttp cd /tmp/keepasshttp/KeePassHttp sudo cp KeePassHttp.dll Newtonsoft.Json.dll /usr/lib/keepass2
[09:34] <soon>  Hi folks: how can I change the keyboard shortcut to display the workspace switcher? I can't find it in Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts
[09:34] <soon> (the default is SUPER + S )
[09:34] <CrazyBird> Hello! I need help with this. I've set up ubuntu 12.10, installed LAMP and OpenVPN. After a bit of set-up work, I can connect to the VPN from the LAN and from outside (Internet). The problem is I can ping the server from the LAN, but not from outside. The server can't ping the client when it is outside the LAN. I have firewall disabled in the server and configured my router to bypass VPN port. What can I do?
[09:34] <arkie_> now it says it can't find the keepasshttp.dll
[09:34] <arkie_> i've found its in the 'mono' folder
[09:35] <arkie_> so how would i write the command then?
[09:35] <cutie> arkie_: It looks like you copied KeePassHttp.dll
[09:35] <cutie> which is not the same as keepasshttp.dll
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> arkie_  .dll sounds windows / wine to me
[09:35] <cutie> Linux filenames are case-sensitive
[09:36] <arkie_> Yep I made it the same.
[09:36] <agarwood> Hi, how are you ? Sorry I have a problem, when I make a disk EXT4 with gparted, I can't create any file and also change name of this partition, but I can do all this things with a NTFS... Why ? Thank you
[09:36] <arkie_> This is what I'm trying to achieve: http://robertmassaioli.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/installing-keepass2-on-ubuntu-linux-11-10-to-work-in-google-chrome-via-keepasshttp/#comment-517
[09:36] <agarwood> I mean create any file in this partition, sorry
[09:37] <arkie_> There was a commit which moved the .dll to the 'mono' folder
[09:37] <arkie_> https://github.com/pfn/keepasshttp
[09:37] <arkie_> I'm just not sure how to reflect this in the actual command.
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> arkie_  it's a ppa, careful with it -- .dll is windows, why do you want to use a windows solution for something ubuntu?
[09:38] <CrazyBird> cutie: Hello! I need help with this. I've set up ubuntu 12.10, installed LAMP and OpenVPN. After a bit of set-up work, I can connect to the VPN from the LAN and from outside (Internet). The problem is I can ping the server from the LAN, but not from outside. The server can't ping the client when it is outside the LAN. I have firewall disabled in the server and configured my router to bypass VPN port. What can I do?
[09:38] <arkie_> Well it works according to a lot of people MonkeyDust
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> CrazyBird  a server? there's also #ubuntu-server
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> arkie_  yes, but why windows?
[09:39] <CrazyBird> I will try there, MonkeyDust. But any help from here would also be appreciated
[09:39] <arkie_> not exactly sure MonkeyDust
[09:39] <yoona> This is my second  time into this channel!
[09:39] <arkie_> Anyway, here is what I've used http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700957/
[09:39] <arkie_> MonkeyDust: it's the final command where I'm having issues
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> arkie_  ppa's are not supported here
[09:40] <arkie_> ls -la /tmp/keepasshttp/KeePassHttp/* shows the .dll isn't actually in the folder and there was a recent commit which moved it into the 'mono' folder
[09:40] <LinuxHorst> igoryonya, http://www.usr-local-share.com/?p=594