[08:20] <lag> cooloney: ping
[08:22] <cooloney> lag: yeah,
[08:22] <lag> cooloney: Good morning
[08:22] <cooloney> lag: morning, man
[08:22] <lag> Is the OMAP4 repo on our server yet?
[08:23] <amitk> morning guys!
[08:23] <lag> Morning Amitk
[08:24] <amitk> I heard that we have a newly-rebased tree from TI?
[08:24] <cooloney> lag: yeah, i just synced one from sebjan
[08:24] <cooloney> and he is trying to unify the panda code into his tree
[08:25] <lag> Great
[08:25] <cooloney> i will pull from him after that and built for you guys for testing
[08:25] <amitk> what version is the tree based on cooloney ?
[08:25] <lag> What's it' called?
[08:25] <cooloney> lag: do you have other omap4 hardware instead of panda?
[08:25] <cooloney> amitk: oh it is based on TI 2.6.34 integration tree
[08:26] <lag> No, just Panda
[08:26] <hrw> morning
[08:26] <lag> I'm guessing it would be called ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid-arm.git
[08:26] <comradekingu> Gnome bytter ut F-spot med shotwell
[08:26] <comradekingu> Wrong chan, sorry
[08:27] <cooloney> lag: lucid-arm.git? no, the new branch is for maverick
[08:27] <lag> I'm guessing it would be called ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick-arm.git
[08:27] <lag> ;)
[08:28] <amitk> why is it a separate tree and not a branch in the maverick git tree?
[08:28] <lag> I understood that it's not ready to go into the main repo yet
[08:29] <lag> I was chatting with cooloney and ogra about it the other day
[08:29] <cooloney> lag: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=roc/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-ubuntu-2.6.34
[08:30] <cooloney> that is a temp branch in my repo
[08:30] <lag> Okay
[08:30] <lag> And after?
[08:30] <cooloney> after it is ready, i will push it out for review and merge into maverick
[08:30] <cooloney> amitk ^^
[08:30] <amitk> ok
[10:29] <lag> cooloney: ping
[11:01] <cooloney> lag: could you please try the kernel from http://people.canonical.com/~roc/kernel/omap4-2.6.34-panda/ on your panda?
[11:03] <lag> Was it built from roc/ubuntu-maverick.git
[11:03] <cooloney> lag: yeah, it is
[11:03] <cooloney> lag: i cross built it locally
[11:04] <lag> By locally, do you mean on 'your' machine?
[11:04] <lag> I am building the same kernel currently on one of the build servers
[11:04] <cooloney> lag: yes, on my machine, since i failed to use sbuild on tyler
[11:04] <cooloney> lag: aha, cool, are you using sbuild?
[11:05] <lag> No idea
[11:05] <lag> Whatever's specified in the chroot
[11:06] <lag> I guess so, as I received an sbuild error this morning when the permissions were messed up
[11:08] <cooloney> lag: yeah, me2, so i switched to my local builder
[11:09] <lag> Well once the maverick-armel issue is sorted apw will have it available again within 2 mins
[11:10] <apw> lag its not that simple
[11:10] <apw> but i am working on it
[11:10] <lag> Is it not the same issue as the other build server?
[11:10] <apw> lag no
[11:10] <lag> You nailed that in moments few
[11:10] <apw> as in the machine is now working for you, but not for him
[11:10] <lag> Ok, sorry for giving false hope :)
[11:10] <lag> Oh, that sucks
[11:11] <lag> (for him)
[11:11] <lag> :)
[11:11] <apw> there is a collision due to two different chroot types, a normal one, and a union one for hard builds
[11:12] <lag> I'll not pretend to know a great deal about chroot architecture. I thought they were just different directories each with their own TLD in
[11:18] <apw> lag, nope they arn't quite.  well they are in the normal case which you use to build, and are union mount overalys in the case of the sbuild use case
[11:18] <apw> and by default they use the same names and everything breaks
[11:19] <apw> i think i have it sorted out though
[11:22] <lag> Good stuff
[11:24] <cooloney> apw: ok, let me try again.
[11:25] <apw> cooloney, not fixed yet
[11:25] <lag> !Good stuff
[11:25] <apw> cooloney, i'll let you know when we are there
[11:25] <ubot2> Factoid 'Good stuff' not found
[11:25] <apw> lag, i am waitng on a new chroot building
[11:25] <cooloney> apw: no, failed again. ok, no problem.
[11:26]  * lag gigges - "stupid bot"
[11:26] <apw> cooloney, yep i know
[11:26] <apw> sbuild -d sbuild-maverick-armel PACKAGE*.dsc
[11:26] <apw> cooloney, could you try again now, note the sbuild- prefix on the chroot name as above
[11:29] <cooloney> apw: thanks a lot, man. it is running now
[11:29] <cooloney> apw: i guess you created a new chroot named sbuild-maverick-armel?
[11:30] <apw> cooloney, yes, as it needs to be a different form from the normal ones, in which changes are persistant
[11:30] <apw> i've only make one on that machine and only for maverick
[11:30] <apw> now i know it works i'll get with rtg to get them made across the board
[11:31] <cooloney> apw: ok, very nice, thx.
[11:31] <apw> cooloney, if you need a different release made let me know
[11:33] <cooloney> apw: one more sbuild-lucid-armel is better.
[11:33] <apw> cooloney, you need lucid yes ?
[11:34] <cooloney> apw: yeah, i might use it for build ti-omap and fsl-imx51
[11:34] <apw> cooloney, ok, its building now will let you know when its done
[11:34] <cooloney> apw: currently, i focus on ti-omap4 for M
[11:34] <apw> yp
[11:35] <cooloney> apw: thanks a lot.
[11:35] <apw> i suspect we'll make them all as they are pretty cheap
[11:35] <cooloney> yeah, i think so, and are those schroot setup scripts in our kteam-tools?
[11:44] <amitk> cooloney: lag: how are we doing on the bugs in omap support in lucid?
[11:44] <amitk> can one of you take up the USB OTG bug
[11:44] <amitk> ?
[11:46] <lag> amitk: I am still quite tied up with a suspend-resume bug, but I can take a look for you if you like?
[11:49] <amitk> lag: please do, assuming you have a beagleboard now
[11:50] <lag> I do not :(
[11:51] <amitk> does either mporier or cooloney have one?
[11:51] <lag> Just my lonely panda - no wonder they're going extinct
[11:51] <amitk> most zoos would love to get a panda :)
[11:51] <lag> I couldn't tell you
[11:55] <cooloney> amitk: i'd love to do that. but i don't have beagleboard and panda
[11:55] <cooloney> amitk: what's the USB OTG bug?
[11:56] <cooloney> i saw some fixing in 2.6.34 kernel
[11:57] <amitk> cooloney: we need to find patches and fix configuration so the USB OTG works in Lucid
[11:59] <cooloney> amitk: ok, any bug on LP? i do love to do that.
[11:59] <lag> cooloney: That image works
[12:00] <cooloney> lag: thanks for the testing.
[12:00] <lag> But has a heart attack when a monitor is plugged in via HDMI
[12:02] <cooloney> lag: do you think that is the first time you meet that?
[12:02] <amitk> cooloney: lag: you should bookmark this page -> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap/
[12:02] <cooloney> no such thing in .33 kernel?
[12:03] <cooloney> amitk: got it. thx
[12:06] <lag> amit: I already have it, thanks
[12:06] <lag> cooloney: bug592295
[12:07] <lag> cooloney: bug 592295
[12:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 592295 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu) "omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST_DIGIT (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592295
[13:26] <lag> cooloney: Are you still around?
[14:39] <cwillu_at_work> cwillu@lucid-zippy:~$ sudo modprobe usbhid
[14:39] <cwillu_at_work> [sudo] password for cwillu:
[14:39] <cwillu_at_work> [  400.146759] usbhid: unknown relocation: 3
[14:39] <cwillu_at_work> FATAL: Error inserting usbhid (/lib/modules/2.6.35-rc3-dl0/kernel/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbhid.ko): Invalid module format
[14:39] <cwillu_at_work> that doesn't strike me as the sort of thing that should be possible :p
[14:47] <rsavoye> does anyone know the url for gcc 4.4 in Maverick for ARM ?
[14:47] <rsavoye> I dug around on launchpad, but only found lp:ubuntu/gcc-4.4
[15:02] <cwillu_at_work> rsavoye, http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/universe/g/gcc-4.4/
[15:08] <rsavoye> is there a bzr branch for it ?
[15:09] <cwillu_at_work> apt-get source it, it'll tell you if there is
[15:09] <cwillu_at_work> but yes, probably
[15:09] <rsavoye> I wanted to check the level of ARM patches
[15:10] <cwillu_at_work> okay, that's a week since rcn was last on, anybody want to come with me on a rescue mission? :p
[15:10] <cwillu_at_work> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.4
[15:11] <rsavoye> that looks like it, thanks
[15:11] <zumbi> rsavoye: afaik, doko uses debian svn for gcc devel, svn.debian.org -- project: gcccvs
[15:12] <rsavoye> I wanted to check the code sourcery patches for ARM, which aren't in the Debian sources
[15:12] <rsavoye> there are some new patches in gcc trunk for Android I was going to migrate
[15:13] <zumbi> rsavoye: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/gcccvs/branches/sid/gcc-4.5/debian/patches/#_branches_sid_gcc-4.5_debian_patches_
[15:13] <rsavoye> right, but this patch I don't believe is in debian at all
[15:13] <zumbi> rsavoye: where are CS patches at?
[15:13] <rsavoye> got me, but I heard there was one for ARM stuff
[15:14] <zumbi> well, there are tons of fixes and patches for ARM
[15:14] <rsavoye> as the CS sources haves fixes for 4.4 based on 4.6
[15:15] <rsavoye> not a huge big deal, I was just doing some Android toolchain hacking and thought maybe I'd check
[15:15] <zumbi> they backport 4.6 development into 4.4 (probably for next release)
[15:15] <rsavoye> yes
[15:15] <rsavoye> maybe it's not merged in yet
[15:15] <zumbi> well, g'luck!
[15:16] <rsavoye> Guess I'll stick to my build of 4.5 for now.
[15:22] <wocao> where is the soucelist for  arm
[15:29] <cwillu_at_work> wocao, how do you mean?
[15:29] <amitk> sources.list?
[15:29] <amitk> sauce list?
[15:29] <amitk> :)
[15:30] <ogra> yum
[15:30] <ogra> sauce
[15:35] <wocao> sourcelist for arm platform
[15:36] <wocao> ?
[15:36] <wocao> where i can fine
[15:36] <wocao> where i can find
[15:37] <ogra> in /etc/apt/
[15:41] <cwillu_at_work> wocao, deb ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports lucid main universe
[16:09]  * cwillu_at_work found rcn
[16:59] <mpoirier_> lag: what was that ?
[17:10] <lag> amitk: Ping
[17:13] <lag> Ogra: Ping
[17:19] <ogra__> lag, yep ?
[17:19] <lag> If I'm fixing bugs for Panda, which tree should I be using?
[17:20] <lag> Things seem a little scattered
[17:20] <ogra> no idea, cooloney should have created one on the server
[17:20] <lag> He has one for Maverick
[17:20] <ogra> right
[17:20] <lag> Hang on
[17:20] <ogra> panda will be maverick
[17:21] <lag> He has one for Maverick in his own area
[17:21] <ogra> hmm
[17:21] <lag> Will panda only be Maverick?
[17:21] <ogra> then i dont know
[17:21] <ogra> yes
[17:21] <lag> I have a working Lucid kernel?
[17:21] <Martyn> good morning
[17:21] <ogra> lag, we wont add new kernels to lucid :)
[17:21] <ogra> its released
[17:22] <lag> Okay, but the Maverick one doesn't work on Panda yet?
[17:22] <lag> Or does it?
[17:22] <ogra> no idea
[17:22] <ogra> afaik we dont have binaries yet
[17:22] <Martyn> I've nearly finished the first set of ARM symbol de-dup patches.   I honestly had no idea how much work I had signed up for at UDS.  This is tough, tough work
[17:22] <ogra> so i havent tested anything yet
[17:22] <lag> Okay
[17:23] <ogra> we got the branch on friday afaik
[17:23] <lag> So I can't fix Panda bugs yet then, is that what you're saying?
[17:23] <Martyn> I thought it would be easy to separate the functions out .. but it wasn't.
[17:23] <Martyn> ogra : What's new?
[17:23] <ogra> lag, do we do have bugs for omap4 yet ?
[17:24] <ogra> since there is no package in the archive yet i doubt we do
[17:24] <lag> I have filled one
[17:24] <lag> But that was with the Lucid kernel!
[17:24]  * lag head explodes
[17:24] <lag> 's*
[17:24] <ogra> which was just a build of the plain TI omap4 upstream kernel
[17:25] <ogra> we dont have the actual kernel yet we will use
[17:25] <lag> Okay, I guess that clears things up
[17:25] <lag> Phew!
[17:25] <ogra> the lucid package you use was just a quick build of what was available to get the boards up at all
[17:25] <lag> Got you
[17:26] <ogra> the actual kernel package we will use has to be built by cooloney first, would probably be best to ask if you can help him with that
[17:26] <ogra> since thats the current blocking factor
[17:26] <lag> Okay, I'll have a word with him tomorrow
[17:27] <ogra> what was your bug about ?
[17:27]  * cwillu_at_work continues happily using his working rcn kernels :)
[17:27] <ogra> clearly a kernel issue ?
[17:27] <lag> HDMI
[17:27] <lag> Yeah
[17:27] <ogra> k
[17:27] <lag> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap/+bug/592295
[17:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 592295 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu) "omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST_DIGIT (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[17:28] <cwillu_at_work> now, if only I could get firefox to stop crashing when using webworkers
[17:28] <Martyn> When did the Panda board support go into the kernel?
[17:28] <ogra> Martyn, not yet
[17:29] <Martyn> *nod*  The only thing I've seen so far was the proposed patch by David Anders, and it missed the patch window (just like the Smooth-Stone patch missed it)
[17:29] <Martyn> Both then end up on hold until 2.6.36
[17:45] <tumbleweed> I'm trying to replicate http://launchpadlibrarian.net/49300098/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.hdf5_1.8.4-patch1-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz in qemu but it keeps segfaulting at the same point in the build processes
[17:46] <tumbleweed> are qemu-system-arm segfaults the norm?
[17:56] <ogra> tumbleweed, depneds what kernel you use
[17:57] <tumbleweed> ogra: the versatile kernel in the repos doesn't work with my qemu
[17:58] <tumbleweed> so I'm using the one from http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/lucid/main/installer-armel/current/images/versatile/netboot/
[17:59] <ogra> thats the same kernel as the archive kernel
[17:59] <ogra> but thats alright then, you shouldnt see segfaults
[18:00] <tumbleweed> ogra: it doesn't seem to be. md5sums don't mathc
[18:00] <tumbleweed> also 2.8M vs 3M
[18:00] <ogra> well, debian-installer just pulls the binary out of the package
[18:00] <ogra> when it builds the netinstall kernel
[18:01] <tumbleweed> with a HEAD qemu and the archive kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/449748/
[18:01] <ogra> oh
[18:02] <ogra> you should mention that you dont use the ubuntu qemu
[18:02] <tumbleweed> I was getting it with ubuntu qemu first, tried git after that
[18:02] <tumbleweed> actually haven't tried ubuntu qemu with the archive kernel. does that
[18:03] <ogra> vmlinuz-2.6.35-2-versatile ?????
[18:03] <ogra> thats not a lucid kernel
[18:03] <tumbleweed> ogra: maverick
[18:04] <tumbleweed> aah, right
[18:04] <ogra> right, thats untested yet :)
[18:04] <ogra> theoretically it should work though
[18:05] <ogra> there were no changes to the versatile branch to my knowledge
[18:05] <ogra> apart from newer upstream
[18:06] <tumbleweed> ok. I see no bugs. I'll file one
[18:06] <ogra> great, thanks
[18:06] <ogra> anyway, your build log seems to have a SIGILL
[18:07] <ogra> could be a toolchain issue
[18:07] <tumbleweed> yeah, I saw that. Tried to replicate, and got sidetracked by this
[18:07] <ogra> since it happens during linking
[18:07] <tumbleweed> I tihnk it cgot past that, though
[18:08] <ogra> are you using a lucid rootfs in your vm image ?
[18:08] <tumbleweed> maverick
[18:08] <ogra> ah
[18:09] <cwillu_at_work> what's the newest firefox build available for arm?
[18:10] <cwillu_at_work> i.e., does anyone have 3.7 builds?
[18:10] <ogra> i dont think so
[18:10] <ogra> theer was no firefox upload to maverick yet
[18:11] <ogra> so the latest in the archive must be the lucid version
[18:11] <cwillu_at_work> :/
[18:11] <cwillu_at_work> building firefox isn't fun :*(
[18:12] <ogra> i dont know if there is any PPA with dailies of trunk
[18:12] <ogra> asac would know such stuff
[18:13] <asac> cwillu_at_work: ogra: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[18:13] <asac> not for armel ;)
[18:13] <ogra> right, thats what i suspected
[18:14] <asac> but firefox 3.7 is there ... which afaik is now branched ... so trunk might be missing temporarily
[18:14] <cwillu_at_work> asac, I suppose I could apt-get source it myself :/
[18:14] <asac> cwillu_at_work: yep
[18:14] <asac> cwillu_at_work: is there any important reason why we should try a ffox 3.7 build?
[18:14] <ogra> tahts great, you can tell us about build failures in advance then :)
[18:14] <asac> if there is a good reason (like important bug fix landing for arm that needs landing), i spin that in a ppa
[18:15] <cwillu_at_work> asac, I can crash a 3.6 build at will by running my app on it?
[18:15] <cwillu_at_work> no idea if it's fixed yet, but it's annoying enough to duplicate that I really want it to get fixed by accident :p
[18:16] <asac> cwillu_at_work: do you see that problem o intel too?
[18:16] <cwillu_at_work> yep
[18:16] <asac> then test it with that ppa
[18:16] <ogra> and it worked on former releases i assume
[18:16] <cwillu_at_work> asac, have been, so far so good
[18:16] <asac> intel builds are avail there ;)
[18:16] <cwillu_at_work> ogra, no, webworkers didn't exist previously
[18:16] <ogra> ah
[18:16] <cwillu_at_work> but they're a pretty big win performance wise in my case
[18:16] <tumbleweed> ogra: gaaah. wrong terminal. ubuntu qemu boots the maverick kernel fine, sorry
[18:16] <ogra> phew
[18:17]  * ogra wipes the sweat off his forehead
[18:18] <ogra> tumbleweed, what i would try is to build the package in the same vm inside a lucid chroot, if thta succeeds its most likely a toolchain issue
[18:20] <tumbleweed> brb supper
[18:28] <ojn> Martyn: I didn't see patches for either go by on arm-kernel. Where were they posted? (panda and smooth-stone support)?
[18:31] <tumbleweed> ogra: when I say "boots fine" I mean it says "booting the kernel" and then hangs at 100% CPU
[19:02]  * gsnedders found the reason why the BeagleBoard he has wasn't working properly: the NAND is b0rked.
[23:35] <cwillu_at_work> ogra, well, I seem to be stable given some code modifications on 3.6.6 from the nightlies
[23:35] <cwillu_at_work> on x86


[03:03] <whyameye_> I have updated my firmware to my router and believe the exploit has been fixed. Can somebody test?
[03:21] <whyameye_> ummm...hello? How can I get back on the #ubuntu channel now that I have fixed my router's exploit?
[03:36] <whyameye_> please test me...
[03:36] <whyameye_> really NOBODY is here?
[03:41] <whyameye_> Pici: are you an ubuntu op? Can you test me to see if I have fixed my router's exploit?
[03:42] <Pici> whyameye_: I only have op priveleges in -offtopic, so I wouldnt be able to check and unban you from #ubuntu, sorry
[03:42] <whyameye_> ok. thanks for responding, though.
[03:52] <whyameye_> !exploit
[03:52] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[03:52] <whyameye_> !test
[03:52] <ubotu> failed
[04:09] <whyameye_> nixternal: do you have op privs to help me get back on the #ubuntu channel now that I have fixed my router's exploit?
[04:11] <nixternal> when were you banned?
[04:11] <whyameye_> today
[04:12] <whyameye_> (I hadn't tried in awhile though)
[04:15] <nixternal> I don't even see you in the ban list
[04:16] <whyameye_> I'm an idiot. I just joined #ubuntu. Sorry for wasting your time.
[04:19] <Pici> I see whyameye!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic from Aug 20th
[04:19] <nixternal> ya, same here
[04:19] <nixternal> 01:28 CST as a matter of fact
[04:19] <rob> heh nick ban
[04:19] <rob> he is using a different nick :)
[04:20] <whyameye_> ok so whyameye is still banned then, huh?
[04:20] <nixternal> whyameye_: please join me really quick in ##nixternal
[04:21] <nixternal> whyameye_: I unbanned ya in #ubuntu
[04:21] <whyameye_> nixternal: thanks! :-)
[04:21] <nixternal> no problem
[05:40] <ubotu> overclucker called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:58] <left1> can someone help me join #ubuntu?
[06:00] <stdin> !staff | #ubuntu
[06:00] <elkbuntu> whoa...
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> stdin: they're on it
[06:00] <left1> ?
[06:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> left1: why can't you atm?
[06:02] <left1> it said to change my port from the default port
[06:02] <left1> it redirected me to the router problem page or something
[06:02] <left1> something about DCC spamming
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> :(
[06:03] <nixternal> heh
[06:05] <left1> atm?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> left1: Looks like you didn't fix the problem yet.
[06:07] <left1> how do i fix it?
[06:07] <left1> I changed the port like it said
[06:08] <rob> !register
[06:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:08] <rob> ubotu, ?
[06:08] <rob> left1, you need to register your nickname with nickserv, we are being hit by bots
[06:08] <left1> oh ok
[06:08] <rob> yes we know.
[06:08] <rob> +r
[06:08] <left1> it doesn't say that on the page
[06:08] <rob> I think I've got most of them now
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> rob: No, left1 is !exploit vulnerable.
[06:09] <rob> oh
[06:09] <left1> !exploit vulnerable
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> !exploit
[06:09] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[06:10] <left1> Yeah i did that. This is what is says "Upon fixing this issue you will NOT automatically be allowed to rejoin #ubuntu if you have been temporarily forwarded to #ubuntu-read-topic. You will need to join the #ubuntu-ops channel and alert an op to the situation.  If they come back ping me as I'll be afk for about 5 minutes
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> left1: Yes, but you failed the test I just ran (hence your last disconnect), so there seems to be more work to be done.
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> rob: What's this?  Putting your daughter ahead of IRC bots?   Can you activate it ? thanks !
 my launchpad page is https://launchpad.net/~zic
 Have you read and followed http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup?
 yes :)
[09:57] <Seveas> could you be so kind? :)
[10:10] <ompaul> wha
[10:10] <ompaul> you ask
[10:10] <ompaul> Seveas, :P
[10:10] <Seveas> ompaul, mornin' :)
[10:11] <ompaul> Seveas, morning
[10:11] <ompaul> nalioth, I'll do that as you are asleep :)
[10:13] <ompaul> Seveas, done
[10:13] <Seveas> grazie
[10:54] <ompaul> Seveas, is ubotu.ubuntu-nl awake?
[11:29] <Seveas> ompaul, it should be
[11:29] <ompaul> okay
 % btlogin
 An error has occurred and has been logged.
[11:29] <ompaul> Seveas, ^^
[11:29] <Seveas> it just doesn't like yoy
[11:29] <Seveas> you*
[11:29] <Seveas> @trlogin
[11:29] <Seveas> @btlogin
[11:29] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[11:30] <Seveas> @reload LpLogin
[11:30] <ubotu> OK
[11:30] <Seveas> @btlogin
[11:30] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[11:30] <Seveas> OperationalError: database is locked
[11:30] <Seveas> fun
[11:31] <Seveas> @btlogin
[11:32] <Seveas> fixed
[11:32] <ompaul> @btlogin
[11:32] <elkbuntu> it does the error thing randomly to me on a regular basis recently
[11:33] <Seveas> ompaul, another cloak request: davromaniak
[11:33] <ompaul> !lol Please don't use lol and omg and so forth on a regular basis. this is irc not IM and using them lines on their own is not required, it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel thanks
[11:33] <ubotu> I'll remember that, ompaul
[11:34] <ompaul> done
[11:34] <Seveas> err
[11:34] <Seveas> !forget lol Please don't use lol and omg and so forth on a regular basis. this
[11:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about lol Please don't use lol and omg and so forth on a regular basis. this yet, Seveas
[11:35] <Seveas> !lol
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <Seveas> !search lol
[11:35] <ubotu> Found: lol please don't use lol and omg and so forth on a regular basis. this, oneko
[11:35] <Seveas> !forget lol Please don't use lol and omg and so forth on a regular basis. this,
[11:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about lol Please don't use lol and omg and so forth on a regular basis. this, yet, Seveas
[11:35] <Seveas> funky
[11:35] <ompaul> what has oneko to do with lol oneko is very serious
[11:35] <Seveas> !lol is <reply>Please don't use lol and omg and so forth on a regular basis. this is irc not IM and using them lines on their own is not required, it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel thanks
[11:35] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[11:36] <ompaul> Seveas, done
[11:36] <Seveas> !forget lol please don't use lol and omg and so forth on a regular basis. this
[11:36] <ubotu> I'll forget that, Seveas
[11:36] <Seveas> gracias
[11:36] <ompaul> !lol
[11:36] <ubotu> Please don't use lol and omg and so forth on a regular basis. this is irc not IM and using them lines on their own is not required, it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel thanks
[12:42] <ompaul> #ubuntu is just nuts
[12:42] <ompaul> I can't do that any longer
[12:42] <ompaul> :)
[12:42] <ompaul> sanity here I come
[12:43] <Gary> lol
[12:46] <ompaul> Gary, I have logged into work to do some scripting of stuff rather than continue with this :)
[12:50] <Gary> awww
[12:50] <Gary> it's a sunday, mute the channel, say it is for religious reasons
[12:51] <Gary> problem solved
[12:51] <ompaul> haha
[12:51] <ompaul> then we would have to mute it friday saturday and sunday
[12:51] <ompaul> that would be cook
[12:51] <ompaul> cookie or cool
[12:51] <ompaul> not sure
[12:51] <Gary> dare ya
[12:51] <Gary> :-D
[12:52] <ompaul> not even a double dare with a curly wurly would work :)
[12:53] <Gary> tripple dare?
[12:53] <ompaul> no
[12:53] <ompaul> tribble
[12:53] <ompaul> how do they do the upside down p
[12:53] <ompaul> haha
[12:54] <ompaul> someone asking how to do they do the backwards   d for do-ob
[12:55] <Gary> lol
[01:15] <AndrewB> rawr
[01:15] <Gary>  woooo
[01:17] <Amaranth> bold is fun
[01:18] <Amaranth> i forget how to do reverse
[01:19] <Gary>  pretty pink
[01:19] <Amaranth> more of a purple here
[01:19] <Amaranth> sort of a mix
[02:42] <ubotu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:44] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:47] <AndrewB> Would it not be better to catalyze troll's instead of instant ban if people call it on the channel?
[03:23] <Pumpernickel> Catalysis is fine with me, so long as it involves nasty chemicals being used on the trolls.
[03:26] <ubotu> In ubotu, zhahak said: who is your Creator?
[03:28] <jrib> !ubotu > zhahak
[04:32] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !copperhead is <reply> Information about Razer's Copperhead mouse and how to set it up in Ubuntu can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RazerCopperHeadMouse
[04:49] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-au, kgoetz said: ubotu: stripping is a feature
[04:49] <kgoetz> btw, i didnt want ubotu to edit, i was talking to it ;)
[04:49] <kgoetz> thats all
[04:50] <Jucato> O.o
[04:52] <Hobbsee> ...okay then?
[04:52] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, i think the conversation was actually very honest...
[04:52] <PriceChild> bah
[04:53] <PriceChild> they were talking about stripping =='s from code afaict
[05:09] <ubotu> dooglus called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:10] <elkbuntu> is he *ever* going to learn?
[05:10] <elkbuntu> he does it like every other week still, ffs
[06:48] <PriceChild> I've had a little pm from our old friend "demon" or however he wants to spell it...
[06:51] <Pici> oh?
[06:52] <Gary> was it a nice pm?
[06:52] <PriceChild> was away, seems like he hasn't been up to any mischief though...
[06:52] <PriceChild> it was very polite... though a little too informal: "Hello joseph..."
[06:53] <Gary> I bought 5 tshirts this afternoon, got to go cut out my transfers and iron them on now
[06:53] <Gary> these are for my LUG for software freedom day
[06:54] <Pici> "Hello Joseph" "My name... is... PriceChild"
[06:54] <Pici> er, sorry, I just watched the matrix the other day.
[06:54] <Gary> lol
[07:13] <mc44> congrats :)
[07:15] <Gary> mc44, whats he done?
[07:34] <mc44> Gary: check the planet :P
[07:35] <pleia2> Seveas: congrats!
[07:35] <Seveas> thanks :)
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> ooooh
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: yay!
[08:01] <Pici> Seveas: Woo! Congrats!
[08:10] <MehdiHassanpour> seveas, can we have ubotu in our loco channel #ubuntu-ir ?
[08:10] <Seveas> @join #ubuntu-ir
[08:10] <Seveas> !ir
[08:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast.
[08:11] <MehdiHassanpour> I'm there :-)
[08:11] <MehdiHassanpour> seveas, ty :-)
[08:11] <Seveas> MehdiHassanpour, is farsi a right-to-left language?
[08:12] <MehdiHassanpour> Seveas: yep!
[08:12] <Seveas> Could you write a translation of the !ir factoid in farsi so we can add it as separate line?
[08:12] <nalioth> yes, please  :)
[08:13] <MehdiHassanpour> persian/farsi is a right to left lang. but we mostly write persian/farsi with latin characters
[08:13] <Seveas> ah ok
[08:13] <MehdiHassanpour> sure, I will
[08:14] <MehdiHassanpour> as some IRC clients don't support unicode or show persian bad
[08:14] <nalioth> MehdiHassanpour: ours do  :)
[08:14] <nalioth> MehdiHassanpour: and so do yours
[08:15] <MehdiHassanpour>  ubuntu-ir#
[08:15] <MehdiHassanpour> nalioth: gaim/pidgin support persian well :-)
[08:16] <MehdiHassanpour> this is the translation of factoid in persian
[08:16] <TheSheep> this line is wrapped wierd :?
[08:17] <nalioth>  ubuntu-ir#
[08:18] <MehdiHassanpour> nalioth: it's fine! and is RTL (right to left)
[08:18] <nalioth> MehdiHassanpour: i just made an alias of what you wrote in here  :)
[08:23] <MehdiHassanpour> Seveas: so that should be fine to be add to ir factoid :-)
[08:25] <nalioth> MehdiHassanpour: i've added this one along with my others
[08:25] <nalioth>       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[08:25] <nalioth>  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:29] <PriceChild> aww @pony is disabled :(
[08:33] <MehdiHassanpour> nalioth: cool :-) seems you're interested in other langs ;-)
[08:33] <nalioth> MehdiHassanpour: i speak a couple  :)
[08:34] <MehdiHassanpour> cool
[08:34] <MehdiHassanpour> nalioth: what are they?
[08:35] <nalioth> MehdiHassanpour: little bit of french, little bit of spanish, some german, and a smattering of others
[08:36] <MehdiHassanpour> :-)
[09:27] <Gary> Seveas, but, you promised me :-D
[09:27] <nalioth> Gary: what were you promised?
[09:28] <mc44> a shotgun wedding
[09:28] <Gary> Seveas said I was the only one for him
[09:29] <Gary> I made my SFD t-shirts :-)
[09:29] <nalioth> alrighty then
[09:29] <Gary> :D
[11:31] <jrib> hmm, how about having ubotu default to linking to the wiki page for X if factoid !X does not yet exist, but the wiki page does?
[11:41] <ubotu> mc44 called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:23] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, gnewsensical said: !downloader is a download manager. To see a comparison of popular download managers for Linux, Windows and Mac, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_download_managers
[01:10] <Amaranth> jrib: but then ubotu has to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X and parse it to see if it's the non-existent page template or not
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: or it could sync the existing pages list weekly and scan that


[01:40]  * sney waves to Logan_
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning
[18:30] <paultag> jamespage: thanks for filing the FFe for Docker, I filed a sync request earlier, but was waiting for the FFe so I can land 1.0 before release (kirland was on this with me)
[20:13] <jamespage> paultag, np - if you want to add anything to the FFe please do
[20:13] <paultag> jamespage: nope, looks great, thanks for doing it!
[20:13] <jamespage> paultag, when's 1.0 scheduled?
[20:14] <paultag> jamespage: it's just barely going to slide in before beta, iirc
[20:14] <paultag> soon ™
[20:15] <paultag> Uh, scratch that, before final freeze.
[20:15] <paultag> euch.
[20:15] <paultag> Let me get an update.


[02:49] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> good evenimg
[02:52] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> hello
[03:35] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> good evening
[12:05] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> How to a start or restart / access the cups httpcontroll panel
[16:24] <jarnos> Is LTS Enablement Stack enabled in latest Xubuntu 16.04 by default?
[16:43] <jarnos> i.e. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Desktop
[16:48] <flocculant> jarnos: I believe that's so, 16.04.3 iso has linux-generic-hwe-16.04


[00:49] <rocco> hi
[01:37] <valorie> Whiskey1: if your fan was working, but now it is not, please file a bug
[01:37] <valorie> or perhaps talk to the #solid devels and see if there were recent changes
[01:38] <Whiskey1> ill try talking to them. the last time (12.10-13.04) this happened that wasnt good enough
[01:38] <Whiskey1> really i just want thinkfan level to work and id be happy
[01:38] <Whiskey1> oh they are kde, mmm not sure its a kde issue at all
[01:39] <Whiskey1> its all in the kernel
[01:39] <keithzg> Hey wait, where's the option in Amarok to send to k3b for burning? Am I just imagining that there was such a feature, or perhaps it was just in the halcyon days of 1.4?
[01:43] <valorie> keithzg: you used to be able to burn from amarok, true
[01:43] <valorie> I think the devels disconnected from k3b because of APIs changing or somesuch?
[01:44] <valorie> I used it back in 1.4 days, but don't recall exactly
[01:44] <keithzg> Pretty much every feature died when they moved away from 1.4, heh. Guess this one just didn't make it back.
[01:49] <keithzg> I think I was also conflating it in my mind a bit with kdenlive, which does still have the ability to toss stuff over to k3b
[01:50] <keithzg> And I've used that recently, which probably made me think I'd used the Amarok feature recently.
[03:29] <Guest61394> YEA
[03:30] <Guest61394> MY  name is Guest61394
[03:54] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:53] <epipercepi> any coders in the house, please check this (primarily for whether 1- the comments all work ok) and/or 2- whether or not it will work at all in terms of closing my zsh script inside my xchat script. (to be used in k/ubuntu).. i have gtk as well installed.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7384851/
[08:20] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:43] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:03] <ronalds> all the qt applications can't stand crtl c crtl v
[10:04] <ronalds> what is wrong with my ubuntu
[10:04] <ronalds> 12.04
[10:04] <ronalds> I did nothing
[10:10] <chachan> ronalds: try checking the global shortcuts
[10:11] <chachan> ronalds: System Settings > Custom ShortCuts > Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:12] <ronalds> well pasting in this konversation appliaction , quassel or other qt app
[10:12] <ronalds> crashes application
[10:12] <ronalds> + skype doesn't work anymore
[10:14] <ronalds> qt designer and creator fails to start
[10:14] <ronalds> Segmentation fault
[10:14] <ronalds> why
[10:14] <ronalds> ?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> !linux
[11:52] <Capprentice> Anyone knows how to create "App folders" in Gnome Shell 3.12 ?
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Capprentice, ask in #ubuntu , this is kubuntu which uses the kde desktop
[11:54] <Capprentice> Im on Kubuntu but installed Gnome 3.12.
[11:54] <Capprentice> Now the menu looks horrible.
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Capprentice, no matter , for gnome support join #ubuntu
[11:56] <Capprentice> Already asked there,....waiting for reply :'(
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Capprentice, tha's because you have boh sets of packages in the menu
[11:57] <BluesKaj> most are dupes with different names for the same job
[12:30] <amundsen> hi
[12:31] <amundsen> why isn't rekonq installed by default in kubuntu ?
[12:42] <TheFakeazneD525> amundsen: idk, they took it out of the ISO
[12:42] <TheFakeazneD525> amundsen: apt-get install rekonq --install-suggests should fix you right up
[13:01] <tmk42> Hello everyone
[13:02] <tmk42> I am experiencing a rather weird issue with kmix on kubuntu 14.04. When I utilize the keyboard shortcuts for raising or lowering the volume, the volume levels do nothing. The only way to control volume is manually within kmix.
[13:02] <tmk42> The volume levels raise and  lower on the screen, but in reality they do nothing.
[13:03] <tmk42> Like ok Im raising the volume now, but nothing happens.
[13:03] <tmk42> Does anyone know how to find a solution to this bug or restore kmix back to default settings maybe?
[13:04] <doctorpepper> hi guys.
[13:15] <BluesKaj> hi doctorpepper
[13:42] <clagiafra> ciao, volevo aggiornare kubuntu a 14.04 ma non riesco
[13:45] <fuchrproof> join #debian
[13:46] <fuchrproof> where the hell am i?
[14:02] <fabio123> hi there
[14:02] <fabio123> i'm having toubles with this command
[14:02] <fabio123> sudo apt-get install appmenu-gtk3 and appmenu-gtk
[14:02] <fabio123> do i need these packages fot the global menu to work with gtk apps?
[14:04] <risetkt> u can find it in the left down corner  ;)
[14:50] <doctorpepper> is it normal that plymouthd is using my cpu while i am running a desktop session  ?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, no it's definitely not normal
[15:03] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj: it actually uses between 2 to 5 % of my cpu.
[15:03] <doctorpepper> and i cant figure out my this happens
[15:07] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, plymouth shouldn't even be running after login
[15:08] <doctorpepper> got any idea how i can fix this issue
[15:09] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, open system monitor and kill it
[15:24] <crook> why is syncing my galaxy android SO DAMN PAINFUL?
[15:24] <crook> mtp sucks
[15:24] <crook> why do i have to resort to airdroid?
[15:25] <crook> ridiculous that this is such a PITA
[15:25] <crook> mtp is not usuable on kubuntu with android
[16:58] <jacky> happy birthday valorie!
[17:00] <rocco> hello
[17:28] <arandomguy> Hi could any one here help me with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/459654/ubuntu-14-04-drivers-for-broadcom-bcm43142 . Thanks :)
[18:13] <Addle> valorie: It's your birthday? Happy birthday, oh helpful one! :)
[19:13] <Programmer_> does anyone know how to sync google drive to ubuntu?
[19:14] <TheFakeazneD525> hmm, how so?
[19:14] <TheFakeazneD525> like do the thing that they did for windows?
[19:15] <TheFakeazneD525> Programmer_: sudo apt-get install grive -y
[19:15] <TheFakeazneD525> then run grive -a
[19:15] <Programmer_> ok
[19:15] <gonssal> Hi all. I just updated to 14.04 and Konqueror, Kontact and other QT apps constantly freeze. Is this a known issue?
[19:15] <gonssal> 13.10 was running just fine
[19:17] <TheFakeazneD525> gonssal: odd, I'm not getting that issue
[19:17] <TheFakeazneD525> gonssal: what arch?
[19:17] <Programmer_> is there a GUI TheFakeazneD525
[19:17] <gonssal> 64bit
[19:17] <TheFakeazneD525> Programmer_: er, the setup is non-gui :c
[19:17] <Programmer_> :/
[19:17] <TheFakeazneD525> but once you set it up, it makes a directory in your home folder
[19:17] <Programmer_> ok
[19:17] <TheFakeazneD525> and then you can access g-drive with Dolphin or Konqueror
[19:18] <gonssal> it affects Dolphin too so the system is basically unusable
[19:19] <landry> Using the ppa available here http://www.noobslab.com/2014/02/unofficial-google-drive-grive-tools.html  , you will make it usable in kde
[19:20] <Programmer_> its reading the local directory :/
[19:58] <jonny_> How do I remove KDE IM contacts from the icon bar at the bottom.
[20:07] <jonny_> anyone know how to remove KDE IM from the tray
[20:19] <guest9WYEub> help help i need help
[20:19] <guest9WYEub> i changed my screen resolution, now kubuntu won't loaad
[20:20] <guest9WYEub> anyone here
[20:20] <valorie> thank you jacky and add
[20:20] <andy123> guest9WYEub: yes
[20:20] <valorie> addle
[20:20] <guest9WYEub> is there anyway to reset the plasma desktops resolution
[20:20] <Addle> valorie: Sup :)
[20:20] <andy123> yes, give me a second, you just need to remove a file
[20:21] <guest9WYEub> i deleted kscreen, all that did was mess up the panels
[20:21] <Addle> valorie: Oh, I missed the previous line. hehe  Hope you're having a good one.
[20:21] <valorie> just got on, thanking all my birthday greeters
[20:21] <valorie> yes, good day
[20:21] <Addle> Excellent :)
[20:21] <valorie> raining a bit, but sunny too -- hoping for rainbows
[20:22] <Addle> Been depressingly grey out lately, but I guess it's well above 0C, so I won't complain.
[20:23] <andy123> guest9WYEub: do you have the file ~/.kde/share/config/krandrrc ?
[20:23] <guest9WYEub> let me check andy
[20:25] <Addle> jonny_: You can just right click it and quit, iirc, then save your session. Can also look in System Settings->Startup and Shutdown.
[20:26] <guest9WYEub> andy123 no i do not
[20:27] <andy123> guest9WYEub: I am not completely sure, but it might be the file ~/.kde/share/apps/kscreen/* now
[20:27] <guest9WYEub> deleted kscreen just messed up the panels
[20:28] <andy123> did you delete the whole folder?
[20:28] <guest9WYEub> yes
[20:28] <andy123> how do you know your panel is messed up when kubuntu doesnt load?
[20:29] <guest9WYEub> guest account
[20:29] <andy123> I suspect something else was messed up
[20:29] <andy123> the kscreen folder only contains some display information
[20:30] <andy123> like "height" : 1080, "width" : 1920
[20:31] <jonny_> Addle,  no option of quit
[20:32] <andy123> guest9WYEub: you could just move the whole .kde folder somewhere else to backup
[20:32] <andy123> it will be created new on a new login  I think
[20:33] <andy123> the .config folder too. check before if you have important files in them, like emails
[20:36] <guest9WYEub> be right back, changeed kscreen settings, gonna see if it works
[20:43] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: ya here?
[20:44] <valorie> yes
[20:44] <valorie> what's up?
[20:44] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: so the guys over in #kde-devel said tht rekonq is still being maintained
[20:44] <TheFakeazneD525> its being ported to KF5
[20:45] <valorie> TheFakeazneD525: if it comes back to workability, we'll weigh the possibilities again
[20:45] <TheFakeazneD525> Hmm? workability?
[20:45] <valorie> I personally always want to present KDE to the world, but on the other hand, we need to give the best experience for our users
[20:46] <valorie> I keep using it occasionally
[20:46] <TheFakeazneD525> Hmm, true
[20:46] <valorie> and FF
[20:46] <TheFakeazneD525> Also QtWebKit is impressive
[20:46] <valorie> I have to say that these days, chromium is my browser of choice
[20:46] <TheFakeazneD525> it can handle Tumblr CSS
[20:46] <TheFakeazneD525> XD
[20:46] <valorie> I even use konqueror too
[20:46] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: oh yeah, speaking of chromium
[20:46] <valorie> chromium can't handle G+ though!
[20:47] <TheFakeazneD525> I'm not sure if I said this, but I do want to add Pepper Plugins to rekonq
[20:47] <valorie> which is bizarre beyond words
[20:47] <valorie> TheFakeazneD525: do we package those?
[20:47] <TheFakeazneD525> Er, Pepper Plugins is the replacement for NSPLUGINS from Google
[20:47] <valorie> cool
[20:47] <TheFakeazneD525> but it hasn't gotten adoption outside of chromium deriatives
[20:48] <valorie> are you willing to do the work?
[20:48] <TheFakeazneD525> Also, PepperFlash is the latest/most secure version of flash on linux, and there are still lots of great flash games around
[20:48] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: possibly, if I get the time
[20:48] <TheFakeazneD525> s/possibly/most likely
[20:48] <valorie> I suggest writing to kubuntu-devel list with your idea
[20:48] <valorie> and offer to do the heavy lifting
[20:49] <valorie> I'm sure you'll get help & advice
[20:49] <valorie> it sucked to have to move to FF
[20:49] <valorie> imo
[20:49] <TheFakeazneD525> Ah, I didn't know that
[20:49] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: true
[20:49] <Ahmad> hello
[20:49] <TheFakeazneD525> :c
[20:49] <TheFakeazneD525> hello Ahmad
[20:49] <TheFakeazneD525> can we interest you in our fine selection of goods?
[20:49] <Ahmad> i'm new kubuntu user, and i have a qustion !
[20:50] <valorie> ask away, Ahmad
[20:50] <TheFakeazneD525> sure!
[20:51] <Ahmad> i can't play mp3,videos,etc ... i tried to install kubuntu-restricted-extras but i faild !!
[20:51] <TheFakeazneD525> Ahmad: what media player
[20:51] <TheFakeazneD525> Amarok? Dragon Player?
[20:52] <valorie> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:52] <valorie> you have the correct package name, at least
[20:52] <Ahmad> yes , amarok and dragon , i didn't change the default players
[20:52] <valorie> sec
[20:52] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: iirc, Flunendo's gst plugin, and some other goodies
[20:53] <TheFakeazneD525> Ahmad: sudo apt-get install phonon-backend-vlc
[20:53] <Ahmad> excuse me , what should i do now to play
[20:53] <TheFakeazneD525> once that finishes, open up system settings > Multimedia > Audio and Video settings > Phonon Backends
[20:53] <TheFakeazneD525> choose VLC, and logout, then login
[20:53] <TheFakeazneD525> it should work then
[20:54] <Ahmad> so i must install vlc ?
[20:54] <TheFakeazneD525> VLC can play _ANYTHING_
[20:54] <TheFakeazneD525> Ahmad: ya
[20:54] <TheFakeazneD525> but you won't have to use vlc directly
[20:54] <Ahmad> ok i will try
[20:54] <TheFakeazneD525> it just needs to be installed
[20:54] <TheFakeazneD525> if you need help feel free to ask
[20:54] <bprompt> hmm
[20:54] <bprompt> installing mplayer should handle all that
[20:55] <bprompt> mplayer plays pretty much any video, even webm ones
[20:55] <Ahmad> yes , so i will install it just for its libraries to be used by dragon , am i true ?
[20:55] <bprompt> and would install codecs and ffmpeg and
[20:55] <TheFakeazneD525> Ahmad: true
[20:56] <bprompt> Ahmad:     what you're missing is just the codecs, installing mplayer installs the codecs which one installed would work for pretty much any player, dragon, kaffeine, kplayer, gnome's whoever, VLC uses its own codecs set
[20:57] <Ahmad> confused again !!
[20:57] <bprompt> ok.. how?
[20:57] <Ahmad> now i must setup mplayer or vlc?
[20:58] <bprompt> Ahmad:   I use both, but codecs for vlc, will work for vlc, no necessarily for dragonplayer or other player
[21:01] <Ahmad> thank u all , online support is amazing !
[21:02] <valorie> mplayer doesn't have a backend for phonon, though
[21:02] <valorie> vlc is superior
[21:04] <Ahmad> i'm installing vlc from Muon Now
[21:06] <Ahmad> can i ask another question ?
[21:06] <Addle> One per customer!
[21:06] <Addle> ;)
[21:06] <BluesKaj> Ahmad, of course
[21:07] <valorie> vlc is great, but if you want dragon and amarok to work, you'll need the vlc backend to phonon installed and *used*
[21:07] <valorie> which you switch in systemsettings
[21:08] <Ahmad> yes
[21:08] <valorie> ok
[21:09] <valorie> I've used VLC even when I was running windows
[21:09] <valorie> great application
[21:10] <Ahmad> thank u , now i can play my videos using VLC , but it is still not working with dragon and amarok !
[21:10] <bprompt> dohh  hehe
[21:11] <bprompt> Ahmad:   I use both, but codecs for vlc, will work for vlc, no necessarily for dragonplayer or other player
[21:11] <bprompt> Ahmad:     what you're missing is just the codecs, installing mplayer installs the codecs which one installed would work for pretty much any player, dragon, kaffeine, kplayer, gnome's whoever, VLC uses its own codecs set
[21:11] <TheFakeazneD525> Ahmad: oh right
[21:11] <bprompt> not to mention a lot of those players are just frontends for mplayer anyway
[21:11] <bprompt> with the exception of vlc of course
[21:11] <TheFakeazneD525> did you change the Phonon backend?
[21:12] <Ahmad> yes i understand
[21:12] <Ahmad> no i didn't change any thing !
[21:13] <Ahmad> just i did install VLC player
[21:14] <BluesKaj> Ahmad, install kubuntu-restricted-extras too
[21:15] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras | Ahmad
[21:15] <Ahmad> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[21:15] <BluesKaj> Ahmad, yes
[21:16] <Ahmad> i'm installing now
[21:17] <valorie> vlc includes the codecs
[21:17] <valorie> gst needs them installed separately
[21:17] <Ahmad> my second question : how to change the permission of root folders
[21:17] <valorie> !
[21:17] <valorie> why
[21:17] <geowany> why?
[21:18] <valorie> !root
[21:18] <valorie> hmmm
[21:18] <valorie> !permission
[21:18] <dinkyluke> Does anyone know a good IDE for KDE applications?
[21:18] <geowany> It's dangeours
[21:19] <Ahmad> because i'm web developer , i want to install xamp ,and store my files in www folder , how can u do it ?
[21:20] <geowany> Ahmad: you can add your user to www-data group by $ sudo gpasswd -a ahmad www-data
[21:21] <valorie> dinkyluke: Kdevelop
[21:21] <valorie> !info kdevelop
[21:22] <Ahmad> what is kdevelop ?
[21:22] <valorie> KDE's IDE
[21:22] <BluesKaj> !kdevelop
[21:22] <valorie> not required to develop KDE stuff, but excellent
[21:22] <BluesKaj> !info kdevelop
[21:23] <dinkyluke> valorie: installing it now..
[21:23] <Addle> Can also use QtCreator, which is nice. But so is KDevelop.
[21:24] <Ahmad> for web developing only ? or can i use them for c++,java developing ?
[21:25] <valorie> yes
[21:25] <valorie> for all
[21:25] <valorie> Qt Creator is made especially for Qt, and some really love that one too
[21:26] <bprompt> Ahmad:      how about apache?     apache package isn't that big
[21:26] <dinkyluke> I installed QtCreator as well. Going to try both.
[21:28] <Ahmad> bprompt : I want to use kubuntu for web developing , what your recommends ?
[21:29] <bprompt> Ahmad:     what version of kubuntu?
[21:30] <Ahmad> 14.04
[21:31] <bprompt> Ahmad:     hmm doing front end? back end? any specific language?
[21:43] <Ahmad> hello
[21:43] <Ahmad> sorry , i disconnected suddenly !
[21:43] <bprompt> Ahmad:     hmm doing front end? back end? any specific language?
[21:45] <Ahmad> bprompt : i'm php developer , i use wordpress but i use front end technologies like jquery,html5 , what should i install now ?
[21:49] <Ahmad> ??
[21:49] <Ahmad> hello
[21:50] <Ahmad> any body here ? :D
[21:51] <bprompt> hheh
[21:51] <bprompt> yes
[21:52] <bprompt> Ahmad:     well, I use Komodo Edit, but there's also a Komodo IDE
[21:52] <bprompt> you can also get Zend studio
[21:52] <bprompt> which is also an IDE, or Aptana Studio
[21:53] <Ahmad> all these software are open source and free ?
[21:54] <bprompt> all I just mentioned, yes, with the exception of Zend studio and Komodo IDE
[21:55] <bprompt> Kate the editor is pretty good too btw
[21:55] <Ahmad> i didn't recieve , plz send again names again
[21:56] <bprompt> ?
[21:56] <bprompt> Ahmad:     well, I use Komodo Edit, but there's also a Komodo IDE
[21:56] <bprompt> you can also get Zend studio
[21:56] <bprompt> which is also an IDE, or Aptana Studio
[21:56] <Ahmad> i recieved only this message " Ahmad:     well, I use Komodo Edit, but there's also a Komodo IDE"
[21:57] <bprompt> hmmm
[21:57] <Ahmad> yes
[21:57] <bprompt> well...
[21:57] <bprompt> something is up wit your connection it seems
[21:58] <Ahmad> can i install packages with ".run" extention ? because xampp is .run extention !!
[21:58] <bprompt> those are binaries, so usually you can just "run them" :)
[22:01] <Ahmad> so .run for run only , and .deb for install , am i true ?
[22:02] <Ahmad> so .run for run only , and .deb for install , am i true ?
[22:03] <Ahmad> hello
[22:06] <Ahmad> hello
[22:07] <Ahmad> helloooooooo !!
[22:11] <le70> hello
[22:12] <le70> can i ask another question ?
[22:16] <andy123> just ask questions here, somebody will eventually answer
[22:17] <valorie> le70: are you ahmad?
[22:18] <le70> yes yes
[22:18] <valorie> because if so, better to use one of our package managers
[22:18] <valorie> using debs and such will likely get you into dependency hell
[22:18] <le70> should i login again with my first name ?
[22:18] <valorie> apt-cache search in the cli will find most packagenames for you
[22:18] <valorie> doesn't matter
[22:19] <valorie> apt-get install will install them and manage dependencies
[22:19] <valorie> if you don't like gui
[22:20] <le70> i don't care about konsol or gui , i need my software to be installed
[22:22] <le70> today is the first time to see Muon
[22:24] <valorie> muon discover is nice as a software center
[22:24] <valorie> however, i use muon package manager if I use a gui
[22:25] <valorie> so use ./whatever if you are running a script
[22:25] <valorie> and packages whereever possible, rather than debs
[22:26] <valorie> usually you can find what you need, and if you can't: the packagers in #kubuntu-devel are great!
[22:29] <le70> yes
[22:30] <le70> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu ?
[22:31] <le70> kde plasma instead of unity ... and ?
[22:33] <Addle> le70: That's pretty much it. It comes with KDE instead of Unity.
[22:33] <valorie> and a different set of applications
[22:34] <valorie> also, we are in the same larger community, but kubuntu is entirely community-produced
[22:37] <le70> kubuntu is developed by canonical also ?
[22:38] <wolftune> can anyone help with this: on my new 14.04 install my network management widget (plasmoid) won't load
[22:38] <wolftune> I am using my prior /home and so maybe I need to purge the settings or something
[22:39] <wolftune> oh and "network settings" in the preferences are basically blank, nothing's there
[22:41] <wolftune> hmm only "service discovery" is present in network settings
[22:41] <geowany> le70:  Isn't! Kubuntu is supported by Blue Systems.
[22:43] <le70> yes
[22:44] <le70> can i ask how does Blue systems make money , if all software is free and open source ?
[22:47] <geowany> Software can be free and opensource, but corporate support is not.
[22:48] <le70> yes
[22:48] <le70> how can i get permission to edit this file /var/www/html/index.html ?
[22:49] <geowany> You can see Blue Systems logo at frontpage kde.org under KDE Patrons section.
[22:49] <geowany> le70: try to add your user to www-data group by sudo gpasswd -a youruser www-data
[22:52] <le70> geowant , i added but still can't edit !!!
[22:52] <geowany> restart your session
[22:52] <le70> ok i will
[22:55] <calzifer> hi, how can I disable to autostart of ibus?
[22:57] <le> hello
[22:58] <le> i can't edit /var/www/html/index.html
[23:01] <geowany> le: I see that index.html is owned by root. So, try to change your permission with a $ sudo chown youruser /var/www/html/index.html
[23:04] <le> thanks , yes now i can edit it , but i want to edit all the folder too , how can i do it ?
[23:05] <le> yes yes
[23:05] <le> i did it
[23:06] <le> thank u geowany
[23:08] <geowany> le: to edit all folder, give permission for your user or group
[23:10] <geowany> if you add your user to group www-data, just give permission with a $ sudo chgrp www-data /var/www/html/
[23:12] <geowany> remember, that is not a good choice to put on the web 'cause apache process have permission to write on all folder
[23:14] <Whiskey`Wonka> is there a easy way to rollback to the kernel used in kubuntu 13.10?
[23:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> and why the buggers does 14.04 keep having to have the touchpad settings changed on every boot (IE: Disable when mouse is plugged in)
[23:18] <le> thanks geowany
[23:19] <le> how can i know that my nvidia card is working good or no ?
[23:21] <geowany> I faced problems with my nvidia GPU. I've been installed Kubuntu 12.04 and upgraded to 14.04 'cause kubuntu 14 live cd doesn't works with nouveau module.
[23:22] <le> yes
[23:22] <geowany> le: but you can install "mesa-utils" package and run glxgears.
[23:24] <le> from driver manger , i selected x.org x server
[23:25] <geowany> $ glxinfo | grep render
[23:25] <geowany> this command will show if direct rendering is working or not.
[23:25] <le>  The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[23:26] <geowany> Yeah! Install mesa-utils!
[23:26] <le> what is mesa-utils ?
[23:26] <le> what is it
[23:27] <geowany> mesa GL utilities
[23:28] <le> did you use steam before [linux version] ?
[23:30] <geowany> No.
[23:31] <le> geowany , excuse me , you are from Blue Systems or you are a volunteer ?
[23:34] <knuxee> !!
[23:34] <geowany> le: I've migrated from Debian a few days ago.
[23:35] <geowany> So, I was a debian user.
[23:35] <le> yes
[23:35] <le> i was a windows user :D
[23:36] <geowany> But I've been used Ubuntu many years ago. I come back!
[23:36] <geowany> https://launchpad.net/~geowany
[23:37] <le> ok
[23:37] <geowany> I have to go now with wife.
[23:37] <geowany> cya!
[23:37] <le> cya
[23:38] <le> thank u for ur help
[23:41] <geowany> glad I could be of help


[10:02] <rooli> hello!
[10:02] <rooli> is here anyone, who can answer me a question about login and password?
[10:09] <rooli> I have installed lubuntu minimal in safe mode, I used the 58 mb iso.
[10:10] <rooli> I added lubuntu minimal installation and lubuntu standard desktop
[10:10] <rooli> after installation has been finished, the PC restarted and a login windows popped up
[10:11] <rooli> on the top of the windows there was a combo box labelled Other...
[10:11] <rooli> I have tried many variations of user names and passwords but none of them not worked
[10:12] <rooli> during the installation no password or user name selection was offered
[10:12] <rooli> only the name of the computer what I gave: 1MAGOS
[10:13] <egy> I am not of the developers, but have you tried "lubuntu" or empty password ?
[10:14] <rooli> I managed to create a non superuser user with password, so I can log in, but any changes I want to make is impossible because of the su password
[10:14] <rooli> egy: yes, I have tried that too....are you hungarian? :)
[10:17] <egy> haha no no, but I like the name and hungarian people too!
[10:17] <egy> okay, let me check the users mailing list. I think someone had such issue before
[10:17] <rooli> egy means ''1'' in hungarian :)
[10:18] <rooli> thank you
[10:21] <egy> rooli: Yup, I am aware of being number "ichi" so to speak :)
[10:21] <egy> ok, unfortunately, it was someone asking for lubuntu-next
[10:21] <egy> Here's the answer:
[10:21] <egy> Try:
[10:21] <egy> user: lubuntu
[10:21] <egy> pass: (none, empty)
[10:21] <rooli> for some reason that did not work
[10:22] <rooli> last year I have installed it and i had the same problem :(
[10:22] <rooli> i have tried many times
[10:22] <egy> That's only what I've found. If it still doesn't work, then please send a mail to the users mailing list. Usually they respond there within a day
[10:23] <egy> oh I am sorry, if you can chroot into it (or if grub installed, it should pop you up: "Advanced options for Lubuntu")
[10:23] <rooli> okay, is there any other solution to create one?
[10:23] <egy> then from there, launch a terminal root and change one
[10:24] <egy> urgh I am not familiar with installing from lubuntu-minimal
[10:24] <egy> For me I provided my username and pass at install time (Lubuntu normal iso)
[10:25] <egy> I suggest you be patient for the moment and wait for the developers to respond. Timezones are different for people.
[10:25] <rooli> I have a very old pc, maybe Ill donwload normal iso, but minimal did not work only in safe mode
[10:25] <egy> You mean it worked *only* in safe mode ?
[10:27] <rooli> yes
[10:27] <rooli> in normal mode
[10:27] <rooli> there was an error message
[10:27] <rooli> according to the cpu
[10:27] <rooli> i don't remember
[10:28] <egy> Ok, they might also help you on that one if you've doubt
[10:28] <egy> post your issue on the users' mailing list and you should get an answer within 1 or 2 days
[10:28] <rooli> here? Alternative support: https://lists.ubuntu.com/lubuntu-users
[10:28] <egy> Yes
[10:29] <rooli> okay, I'll do that. thank you
[10:29] <egy> You can also subscribe to the list for better communication
[10:29] <rooli> allright
[10:29] <egy> :)
[10:29] <rooli> thanks for your time! ;)
[23:23] <krabador> beware of cristian_c
[23:24] <tsimonq2> ...
[23:24] <tsimonq2> Why?
[23:24] <krabador> he's the prince of pimples.
[23:24] <tsimonq2> !offtopic


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[14:23] <cmaloney> Goo dmorning
[14:24]  * cmaloney is checking out N2ACards for the Nook
[14:24] <cmaloney> JoDee is bogarting the Nexus at the moment. :)
[14:25] <cmaloney> I don't mind but I packed all of my books so I have no reading material for the can. :)
[14:27] <brousch> packed?
[14:28] <cmaloney> Packed as in boxes.
[14:39] <rick_h_> party
[14:48] <brousch> cmaloney: Are you moving?
[15:21] <cmaloney> brousch: Eventually
[15:21] <cmaloney> Just packing up non-essentials at the moment
[15:24] <gamerchick02> moving cmaloney?
[15:24] <gamerchick02> or vacation?
[15:24] <cmaloney> Will be moving eventually
[15:24] <cmaloney> still sorting out the particulars.
[15:25] <cmaloney> The gist is the place we're living in is no longer depreciable
[15:25] <cmaloney> so we need to find new living arrangements.
[15:25] <cmaloney> Long story.
[15:26] <gamerchick02> ah
[15:26] <gamerchick02> good luck?
[15:26] <gamerchick02> i hate moving
[15:26] <gamerchick02> heh
[15:26] <cmaloney> On the plus side, I had a sandisk 32GB Class4 card in my phone so I transferred that data over to a 16G UC1 card.
[15:26] <cmaloney> gamerchick02: I'm not a fan either.
[15:27] <gamerchick02> i don't think most people are.
[15:27] <cmaloney> So now I'm trying a "hail mary" for this Nook to see if I can get it doing something useful other than being a paperweight.
[15:27] <gamerchick02> what kind of nook?
[15:27] <cmaloney> Tablet
[15:27] <gamerchick02> oh ok
[15:27] <cmaloney> The one before the HD / HD+ series.
[15:28] <gamerchick02> my brother has that but he insists on reading on his phone
[15:28] <cmaloney> I don't blame him.
[15:28] <cmaloney> The nook android client is pretty good.
[15:28] <gamerchick02> yeah
[15:28] <cmaloney> Limited unfortunately
[15:28] <cmaloney> but still pretty good
[15:28] <cmaloney> I prefer Google Play since the syncing is much better.
[15:28] <gamerchick02> i'm using Marvin on my ipad mini
[15:29]  * gamerchick02 ducks the flying fruit
[15:29] <cmaloney> iPads have their place.
[15:29] <gamerchick02> i like my freedom hating ipad mini
[15:29] <gamerchick02> :-P
[15:29] <cmaloney> for one, they seem to be where all of the board games that I want to play get ported
[15:29] <gamerchick02> yeah
[15:29] <cmaloney> Eclipse, Ascension
[15:30] <cmaloney> There's others that I'm blanking on at the moment
[15:30] <gamerchick02> Hearthstone...
[15:30] <gamerchick02> ahem.
[15:30] <cmaloney> yeah, that one doesn't interest me as much
[15:30] <gamerchick02> i've played that a bit but you have to start as ALLIANCE. bleh
[15:30] <gamerchick02> Horde FTW
[15:30] <cmaloney> But yeah, no Android version
[15:30] <gamerchick02> there's an android version of ticket to ride
[15:31] <cmaloney> It's like owning a Wii and seeing everything that you want on XBox. :)
[15:31] <cmaloney> Blergh
[15:31] <cmaloney> Crashy-to-Ride.
[15:31] <cmaloney> Ticket to Crash
[15:31] <cmaloney> Runs like a barrel of monkeys tied together at the ankles.
[15:32] <cmaloney> There is Carcassone, Hey that's my fish, and Neuroshima Hex
[15:33] <cmaloney> haven't figured out how to play Neuroshima Hex
[15:33] <cmaloney> and Elemental Clash / Magic the Gathering
[15:33] <cmaloney> But sadly the one thing that I find that I play most often?
[15:33] <cmaloney> Pinball
[15:33]  * cmaloney loves his Pinball
[15:34] <cmaloney> ok, brb.
[15:35] <cmaloney> http://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/30273/stranger-in-a-strange-land-playdek-coming-to-andro
[15:35] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/AvRkOj - Stranger In a Strange Land: Playdek Coming to Android | iOS Board Games | BoardGameGeek
[15:35] <cmaloney> Bah.
[15:35] <cmaloney> Stupid fires.
[15:37] <cmaloney> Ah, looks like it was released after all
[15:38] <gamerchick02> pinball!!
[15:38] <cmaloney> Yeah, Pinball Arcade is my favorite title
[15:38]  * cmaloney has played the shit out of:
[15:38] <gamerchick02> i was making my bed... clean sheets today. laundry day. after laundry is trip to the post office and beast buy
[15:39] <gamerchick02> do you go to the pinball thing that's at Oakland University?
[15:39] <gamerchick02> usually in March
[15:39] <cmaloney> PInbot, Bride of Pinbot, Circqs Voltaire, Theater of Magic
[15:39] <cmaloney> I have not been there yet.
[15:39] <cmaloney> I'd love to go
[15:40] <cmaloney> Oh, and Centaur
[15:40] <gamerchick02> next year. i hope it's on a weekend i can go
[15:40] <gamerchick02> maybe i can take an afternoon off work on friday or something and go play. could meet ya there?
[15:41] <cmaloney> Sounds like a ploan
[15:41] <cmaloney> plan even
[15:41] <cmaloney> I had a friend who owned a shit-ton of pinball games
[15:41] <gamerchick02> coolness
[15:41] <gamerchick02> hopefully it won't be on the weekend we schedule our installation for NIle
[15:41] <gamerchick02> it was this year. pah
[15:41] <gamerchick02> Nile
[15:41] <cmaloney> You need to get out of de nile. :)
[15:42] <gamerchick02> that's awesome though.
[15:42] <gamerchick02> lol
[15:42] <cmaloney> It seems to interfere with things way too much. :)
[15:42] <gamerchick02> i'll be junior past queen next year, woo. hopefully the following year i don't get booted to the west again
[15:43] <cmaloney> Anywho, really afk now.
[15:43] <gamerchick02> ok cya later!
[15:56] <brousch> cmaloney: Are you going to buy a block of old meth labs in Detroit and build a compound?
[16:53] <rick_h_> greg-g: around?
[17:20] <greg-g> rick_h_: for about 2 minutes, rowan wants to go for a bike ride
[17:21] <greg-g> rick_h_: nvm, you're probably away now, bbiab ! :)
[17:22] <rick_h_> greg-g: have fun
[17:30] <jrwren> .np
[17:30] <jrwren> .np evarlast
[17:30] <bookiebot> evarlast's current track - Agony by Out Out on Pepperbox Muzzle
[17:31] <rick_h_> I keep thinking you're listening to everlast
[17:43] <jrwren> lol
[19:13] <gamerchick02> hah.
[19:13] <gamerchick02> anyone in here into Stereolab?
[21:17] <greg-g> rick_h_: yo
[21:17] <greg-g> questions re bay area travels?
[22:02] <greg-g> .np Phlegethon
[22:02] <bookiebot> Phlegethon's last track - What'd I Say by Rare Earth on The Best Of Rare Earth - The Millennium Collection [17 May 2014, 17:47]
[22:02] <greg-g> huh...
[22:02] <greg-g> .np Phlegethon
[22:02] <bookiebot> Phlegethon's current track - When the Water Breaks by Liquid Tension Experiment on Liquid Tension Experiment 2
[22:02] <greg-g> there we go, forgot to setup last.fm in gmb today
[23:30] <gamerchick02> what does that dot np do?
[23:31] <gamerchick02> is that a bot or something?
[23:33] <waf> yeah, it's a bot. stands for "now playing" and hooks up to a user's last.fm account
[23:42] <brousch> .np
[23:42] <brousch> .np brousch
[23:42] <bookiebot> brousch's last track - Different Wings by Pitrelli on The Lost Christmas Eve [24 Dec 2011, 18:33]
[23:50] <gamerchick02> cool!
[23:50] <gamerchick02> .np gamerchick02
[23:50] <bookiebot> gamerchick02's last track - Forever Young by Joan Baez on Greatest Hits [17 May 2014, 23:42]
[23:50] <gamerchick02> sweetness!
[23:50] <gamerchick02> thanks


[11:48] <harmw> smoser: on it, thanks!
[11:48] <harmw> about the missing python, thats due to a missing meta package in your instance :)
[11:50] <harmw> god I hate bikeshedding :>
[11:50] <harmw> especially whn it concerns a temporary script


[08:01] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[08:12] <rilleh> Morning
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> hey rilleh
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: how did you like the newest set
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> morning de-facto
[08:21] <de-facto> Morning guys... im here via bluetooth tethering over my mobile (works like a charm with network manager) because my ISP got his PPPoE server screwed up so badly that they are "working on it" for almost a day now :-/
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[08:23] <de-facto> yup they are like "quadruplefacepalm" lol
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[08:26] <rilleh> lotuspsychje: Haven't had the time to listen through it yet
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> no sweat mate
[08:26] <rilleh> I've been afk since wednesday
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> its a housy set :p
[08:26] <rilleh> So I'm about to listen to DCR300 now
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> yay
[08:26] <rilleh> 4 hours
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> huh
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: thats the set ive shared from mixing dj
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: you found the full?
[08:28] <de-facto> maybe someone should suggest them using ubuntu lts server instead of whatever unreliable "server" they are using there right now hahaha
[08:29] <rilleh> lotuspsychje: https://soundcloud.com/adambeyer/dcr300-adam-beyer-bart-skils-ida-engberg-paul-ritch-sam-paganini-live-from-awakenings-antwerp
[08:30] <de-facto> yay soundcloud rocks ;)
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: tnx
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[08:39] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> all ok?
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> rainy weather here
[08:39] <EriC^^> yeah all good thanks
[08:40] <EriC^^> you?
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> fine here :p
[08:40] <EriC^^> sunny weather here
[08:40] <EriC^^> was a little chilly last week though
[08:41] <EriC^^> the weather is all over the place these days
[08:41] <EriC^^> ozone and shit
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> http://fossforce.com/2016/05/surprise-microsoft-ending-free-upgrades-windows-10/
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> $$$$$
[08:41] <EriC^^> lol
[08:42] <EriC^^> no surprise there :p
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> sudo apt $$$$
[08:43] <EriC^^> hehe
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> now everyone has the free Win10
[08:44] <de-facto> sudo apt-get $ms-contract # sell your soul
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> they gotta start paying updates
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> good news for the year of the linux desktop
[08:46] <de-facto> well actually the numbers of users in #ubuntu already raised with the release of xenial
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> yeah before we dropped at 1600
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> seen the channel raise to 2000 lately
[08:46] <de-facto> yup seen that too, and still it works pretty well :)
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> last 10 years have already been the years of the linux desktop :p
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> all those lame articles spreading the web...saying otherwise
[08:52] <de-facto> actually i had dual boot for years, but just did not use windows anytime, so i was lazy to reinstall/update that and now i dont miss anything (especially when seeing all those w10 crazy-mess )
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> :p
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> what you guys think about adding: ubuntu version and hardware chipset to !details?
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> !details
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> oh!!!
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> dax changed it already
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> nvm :p
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> dax: great work :p ^
[09:21] <de-facto> !termbin
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> !pastebinit | de-facto
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: or is the termbin method more handy?
[09:22] <de-facto> yeah thats also nice can it take stuff from a pipe?
[09:23] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^ might know that
[09:23] <EriC^^> something | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:23] <EriC^^> there's also sprunge which uses curl
[09:23] <de-facto> not sure but i guess something like "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" is kinda usefull
[09:23] <EriC^^> something |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[09:23] <EriC^^> quick and dirty pastebins
[09:23] <EriC^^> :D
[09:25] <EriC^^> have they fixed the ubot5 vulnerability yet?
 wants you to know: Package is-this-fixed-yet does not exist in xenial
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> not yet
[09:26] <EriC^^> if the freenode flooder gets ahold of it
[09:26] <EriC^^> god help us all
[09:26] <EriC^^> :p
[09:26] <EriC^^> better get it patched soon!
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: remind them in #ops
[09:27] <EriC^^> who is the freenode flooder btw?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[09:29] <EriC^^> i wonder what's the backstory on that
[09:29] <EriC^^> what a waste of a botnet :P
[09:29] <EriC^^> probably could makes lots of monies with ad revenue or something
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:29] <EriC^^> and he's flooding #ubuntu smh
[09:31] <EriC^^> would be funny to remind them from outside the channel using ubot5 or ubottu
[09:31] <EriC^^> they'll be like what the..
[09:31] <EriC^^> O.o
[09:31] <EriC^^> to #ubuntu-ops
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yeah remind them
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> its your found :p
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[10:02] <de-facto> !ltsupgrade
[10:26] <TJ-> EriC^^: sat in a hotel with sruli right now; good job you've done helping him.. seen the chat log notes he's kept so he doesn't forget
[10:27] <EriC^^> aha
[10:27] <EriC^^> thank you
[10:27] <TJ-> You'd love (not!) some of the many bugs/issues we've been tackling ... reall brain-teasers
[10:28] <EriC^^> :D
[10:28] <TJ-> best one for comedic value so far ... take a look: bug 1574317
[10:30] <EriC^^> hehe
[10:30] <TJ-> also, seeing as you just mentioned holding down Shift for GRUB... best to see this bug report I've taken over since it is extremely relavent: bug 425979
[10:31] <TJ-> I shall be investigating if UEFI v2.4 does support modifier detection and if so will add patches for Ubuntu sometime in the next month. Was talking to Colin Watson about it last night
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: gonna re-watch showdown little tokyo in a bit
[11:19] <EriC^^> what's that?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: movie from 91
[11:19] <EriC^^> never heard of it O.o
[11:19] <EriC^^> ah
[11:19] <EriC^^> i know the actor
[11:19] <EriC^^> both actually, is that the guy from hmm
[11:20] <EriC^^> looks familiar first i thought he was the guy from honey i shrunk the kids
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzasJPXef0E
[11:20] <EriC^^> nah not him definitely, i've seen him though
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> lol that trailer looks old
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje
[12:02] <EriC^^> hi BluesKaj
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hi EriC^^
[12:04] <BluesKaj> back on Xenial, my adventure with plasma 5.6.3 on Yakkety yesterday ended in chaos, too much work to fix. Looks like I'll have to start over
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> im sticking to xenial for few :p
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Xenial is my stable fallback
[12:07] <rilleh> lotuspsychje: DCR300 is a real banger
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: yeah
[12:07] <rilleh> Did you attend Awakenings?
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: go or listen?
[12:08] <rilleh> Were you there?
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> no
[12:08] <rilleh> At the festival
[12:08] <rilleh> Too bad
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: the set from fuse, Brussels is also very neat
[12:08] <rilleh> 301?
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> no
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> an older one
[12:09] <rilleh> Ah
[12:09] <rilleh> The one you posted
[12:09] <rilleh> I've heard it allready
[12:09] <rilleh> But I'll give it a listen again
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: ive heard so many of them, hard to keep em apart sometimes
[12:14] <de-facto> Ah there, my ISP finally managed to fix his stupid PPPoE "server", lol i dont understand why they dont have a replicated slave waiting for a hot swap on such central points :-/
[12:20] <de-facto> btw if you like that kind of music http://uzic.ch/ has got quite some nice sets sometimes and streamed without any adds :)
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[12:21] <de-facto> always depends on their dj currently online
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> cool, but im big fan of adam beyer :p
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> hard to beat
[12:22] <rilleh> I think Ida is better when she's at her peak
[12:23] <rilleh> Her Techno set in DCR300 is off the walls
[12:23] <rilleh> Sadly, she usually plays mostly Tech-House
[12:25] <de-facto> you can see their artits list (and ratings) here http://uzic.ch/artists/
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: i love the way adam adapts to his crowd/club-style
[12:31] <rilleh> lotuspsychje: That's kinda in his job description :D
[12:31] <rilleh> But he's a good DJ, not arguing about that
[13:20] <pauljw> hi everyone
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: the paul ritch part is amazing on dcr300
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> dax: can we have a !releasenotes for 16.04 please?
[16:22] <dax> !releasenotes
[16:22] <dax> lol. k
[16:22] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Desktop
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> tnx :p
[16:27] <dax> ugh there's no variable to give the long-name with no spaces
[16:28] <dax> !releasenotes
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> nice one
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> ty dax
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> and for the !details also :p
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> pretty handy
[17:15] <rilleh> lotuspsychje: Indeed
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[19:51] <dax> http://mhall119.com/2016/05/dogfooding-unity-8/
[20:12] <tsimonq2> I actually just saw that, dax
[20:12] <tsimonq2> I'm getting a dual-boot setup ready now :D
[20:18]  * tsimonq2 wants to try it as well


[09:29] <MichalNowo> Hello! I passed ISTQB Certificate and i wanna gain valuable professional experience in Software Testing/QA Engineeering. I found out opportunity to test Ubuntu as interesting for me. Best!


[21:40] <louisdk> It's not easy to downgrade mythtv on mythbuntu.  The general consensus would be to upgrade, not downgrade
[21:41] <tgm4883> louisdk: however I would think that downgrading would be possible via a little apt pinning
[21:48] <louisdk> tgm4883, my debian stable server is still on 0.27, hence the frontend will not start on my mythbuntu 16.04 frontend. I see that there's a ppa for 0.27 in 16.04.
[21:48] <louisdk> tgm4883, Am I on the right track: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15860376/ ?
[21:49] <louisdk> or wrong syntax for ppa?
[22:03] <tgm4883> louisdk: I'm not sure, I don't usually do apt pinning. I don't even think there are any 0.27 packages for 16.04
[22:06] <louisdk> tgm4883, well I was fooled looking at mythbuntu.org. There's no 0.27 repo for 16.04.
[22:07] <tgm4883> louisdk: mythbuntu.org doesn't say there is a 0.27 repo for 16.04 either. Although it might have a few days ago. I don't recall when I fixed that
[22:08] <tgm4883> in any case, there aren't packages for it anymore, although you could feasibly build your own


[06:17] <soren> It appears that doing a searchTasks against a project on Launchpad excludes bugs that are "Fix Released". I'm trying to query all bugs pertaining to a particular project. How do I do that?
[06:20] <wgrant> soren: searchTasks returns open bugs by default.
[06:20] <wgrant> You need to name each status in the status argument to get closed ones, same as a normal bug search in the web UI.
[06:20] <soren> Is there another way to list all bugs for a given project?
[06:21] <soren> I'm grabbing all the data and shoving it into a Google Sheet for report generation, but I realised things stopped being updated once they got "fix released".
[06:21] <soren> Oh, ok.
[06:21] <soren> Is the list of valid statuses available somewhere?
[06:22] <wgrant> https://api.launchpad.net/devel.html#bug_task
[06:23] <soren> I was hoping for something more programmatic :)
[06:23] <soren> I know they don't change (often), but still it would be nice if I could query the list of valid statuses and then use that to generate the serachTasks status argument.
[06:24] <wgrant> It's in the WADL, but I don't know if launchpadlib exposes it.
[06:26] <wgrant> [o.value for o in task._wadl_resource.get_parameter('status').options] works, but there may be a better way.
[06:26] <soren> I don't think dealing with XML is even anywhere near the Venn diagram of things I'm capable of today and things I'm interested in doing today.  :)
[06:26] <soren> Oh!
[06:27] <soren> So I need a task object first.
[06:30] <soren> [o.value for o in lp.load('ubuntu/+bug/1')._wadl_resource.get_parameter('status').options]   totally does the trick.
[06:30] <soren> wgrant: Sweet. Thanks so much!
[06:30] <wgrant> soren: I'd avoid bug #1 if only because it's huge and slow, but it shouldn't be too bad./
[06:31] <soren> Oh, I didn't think loading that bug task would really pull down much info at all.
[06:31] <wgrant> Ah, true, it is only the task.
[06:32] <soren> Doh.
[06:32] <soren> status: Invalid value "Unknown". Acceptable values are: New, Incomplete, Opinion, Invalid, Won't Fix, Expired, Confirmed, Triaged, In Progress, Fix Committed, Fix Released, Incomplete (with response), Incomplete (without response)
[06:33] <wgrant> Ah, hm, indeed. searchTasks takes slightly different variants of some statuses.
[06:33] <soren> I'm perfectly happy to use another interface if that's better.
[06:33] <wgrant> There is no other interface.
[06:33] <soren> Ok.
[06:35] <soren> *chuckle* I could make an invalid query and use that error message to generate the correct list.
[06:35] <wgrant> Heh
[06:36] <wgrant> I'm not sure if the WADL includes that information.
[06:36] <wgrant> The docs don't expose it because it's inside a list.
[06:38] <soren> Ok.
[16:44] <skay> hi, the launchpadlib docs for authenticated access for website integration are perhaps for an older version of the api? I am getting this error when I try to use the Launchpad constructor according to the docs but as you can see, login_with works okay. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11500279/
[16:44] <skay> relevent docs: https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib#Authenticated_access_for_website_integration
[17:04] <dobey> skay: i think that's because your missing positional arguments. keyword arguments aren't required. the example passes credentials as a positional arg, not a keyword arg, for example
[17:06] <dobey> i'm not sure what you're intending to do with your web site either. if you only need read access, and you only need public data, you can do anonymous access to launchpad as well
[17:07] <skay> dobey: I need private access.
[17:08] <skay> dobey: no, positional arguments versus keyword args don't help. I tried with Launchpad(creds, service_root='production') as the doc says and got the TypeError thing again
[17:08] <skay> dobey: it's okay, I have a workaround in that I can use login_with, but I thought I'd mention the error here in case it wasn't known
[17:08] <skay> dobey: it may be a user error on my part, but in any case, I'll see if there is something I can fix in docs
[17:10] <dobey>  |  __init__(self, credentials, authorization_engine, credential_store, service_root='https://api.staging.launchpad.net/', cache=None, timeout=None, proxy_info=None, version='1.0')
[17:10] <skay> dobey: with my website I want to maintain a cache of launchpad users in a private team, and I'll have a form that someone is filling out where they can autocomplete usernames, or search for usernames
[17:10] <dobey> according to pydoc the example is indeed wrong
[17:13] <skay> I'm a little overcommitted right now, but if I have time I'll try updating that
[17:13] <dobey> you could just file a bug against launchpad itself, so it's at least tracked
[17:13] <dobey> :)
[17:13] <skay> derp, why didn't I think of that :)