[00:00] <Refraxx> ok, u want me to send u a screenshot? is that it?
[00:01] <James147> no... paste the text on to teh site linked (the first one) then paste the link here
[00:03] <Refraxx> Ok, that blue thing related to internet usage-it showed up,but nothing happened after that.
[00:03] <Refraxx> Conquer,I think its called
[00:04] <ThePCKid> It's Konqueror
[00:04] <ThePCKid> I think
[00:04] <Refraxx> Yeah, that thing. It bounced like it does to sow its working,but then nothing happens
[00:05] <Refraxx> show*
[00:05] <Refraxx> I dont normally use that anyway. I go with Firefox
[00:06] <James147> Refraxx: then launch firefox and go to that page
[00:06] <Refraxx> ok
[00:09] <Refraxx> ok, I'm at that screen. What exactly do you want me to paste there?
[00:11] <Refraxx> Wait, you wanted a url,right?
[00:11] <Refraxx> I think I have it.
[00:13] <Refraxx> Do you see it,James?
[00:15] <James147> Refraxx: paste the output of "aptitude show plasma-desktop" onto the site, submit it then paste the link of the page taht appears
[00:22] <Refraxx> James, did you recieve it?
[00:22] <James147> Refraxx: you didnt paste a link ^^
[00:23] <Refraxx> I clicked on ur screenname & sent it there. On my side of the screen, it looks like a link. Dont work for you?
[00:23] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx paste url in this channel
[00:23]  * James147 dosnt knotice pms often :)
[00:24] <Refraxx> Ok, pasting on this chat
[00:24] <drunkncrew> hello everyone ;)
[00:24] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484712/plain/
[00:25] <Refraxx> Is that what you wanted?
[00:25] <Refraxx> It's the only thing I can think of that a URL would be.....
[00:26] <drunkncrew> I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 10.04.1 and for some reason my bottom panel looks wierd. I uploaded a screenshot at http://yfrog.com/jterrorpanelp . For some reason, as you can see in the screenshot, half of the panel is showing a background and half the panel is not. I want the panel to look "normal". Any help is highly appreciated!
[00:27] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx what kubuntu version are you using? And how did you install it?
[00:27] <James147> drunkncrew: I remember someone having a similar problem... think they fixed it be shrinking the panel abit but I cant fully remember if that worked :)
[00:27] <Torch> drunkncrew: known bug.
[00:27] <Torch> drunkncrew: update to kde 4.5 or use compositing.
[00:28] <drunkncrew> torch: how do I update to kde 4.5?
[00:28] <Torch> drunkncrew: and as James147 (who is always right ;-)) shrinking the panel a bit helps.
[00:28] <James147> drunkncrew: see the topic
[00:28] <Torch> +said
[00:28] <Refraxx> ArGGu-I'm using vers. 9.04
[00:29] <drunkncrew> james147: thanks I shrunk tha panel and voila
[00:29] <drunkncrew> thanks for the quick responses everyone
[00:30] <Refraxx> What do you mean: How did I install it?
[00:31] <Refraxx> I put the disk in the tray & my brother walked me through installation
[00:31] <Refraxx> Or did you mean something else?
[00:31] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx could you paste /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntu.com and paste the url
[00:31] <drunkncrew> what version of KDE is lucid configured with initially?
[00:32] <James147> drunkncrew: 4.4.2
[00:32] <Refraxx> ok
[00:32] <Torch> drunkncrew: get 4.5. it's much better.
[00:32]  * James147 agrees with Torch
[00:32] <James147> or at the very least 4.4.5 :)
[00:33] <drunkncrew> james147: thanks. I've googled for a tutorial as to how to update to 4.5, but can't find one. Do you happen to know of a good tutorial, or is there a quick way to update to 4.5?
[00:33] <James147> drunkncrew: see the channel topic
[00:33] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484721/plain/
[00:33] <drunkncrew> james147: will do
[00:33] <Refraxx> I think something went wrong, I think I misunderstood you
[00:34] <James147> Refraxx: paste the contents of that file...
[00:34] <Refraxx> That "etc/apt/resources" thing-where do I paste it at?
[00:35] <Refraxx> in konsole?
[00:35] <ArGGu^^> open /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:35] <Refraxx> in konsole? or a browser window?
[00:36] <ArGGu^^> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:36] <ArGGu^^> run that in console
[00:36] <Refraxx> ok
[00:36] <ArGGu^^> the copy paste the output into paste.ubuntu.com
[00:36] <drunkncrew> I'm a long time Gnome user, but have only used KDE for approximately 20mins so far and it's great. I extremely appreciate everyone's help in here. just wanted to thank you all.
[00:36] <ArGGu^^> drunkncrew I think that kubuntu backports has kde 4.5
[00:37] <ArGGu^^> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[00:37] <drunkncrew> ArGGu: I just added the PPA, thanks
[00:37] <ArGGu^^> ifok
[00:37] <ArGGu^^> *ok
[00:38] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484722/plain/
[00:38] <Refraxx> Came up with a bunch of lines
[00:39] <Refraxx> That stuff makes no sense to me at all.
[00:40] <James147> Refraxx: it dosnt ahve to... thats why you pasted it, so we can look at it :)
[00:40] <Refraxx> oh, right. Good point.
[00:41] <Refraxx> Does it help?
[00:42] <ArGGu^^> I just remembered that older kubuntu releases does not have plasma-desktop package
[00:42] <Refraxx> Ok....?
[00:42] <James147> ArGGu^^: then that would be why :) ... do they ahve the plasma-desktop exec?
[00:42] <Refraxx> What's my next step?
[00:43] <Refraxx> exec sounds familliar. How would I check?
[00:43] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx What was your problem?
[00:43] <James147> ArGGu^^: No desktop/panel but instead he seems to ahve a checkerboard background (or non at all)
[00:44] <James147> ArGGu^^: on a new user as well so not a config problem
[00:44] <Refraxx> My home screen is a grey & white checkerboard. I never downloaded a pic looking like that. It just showed up that way one day,been that way ever since
[00:44] <Refraxx> abt 7 months ago
[00:45] <Refraxx> Is it some form of maleware,mabye?
[00:46] <James147> Refraxx: unlikly...
[00:46] <Refraxx> I go into settings & it wont let me change the screensaver anymore either.
[00:46] <illunatic> don't think so
[00:47] <illunatic> i think that is default if it can't access an img or osmething
[00:47] <Refraxx> I put everything back to factory default settings. Still the checkerboard crap.
[00:48] <Refraxx> Illunatic: Should I try to use a pic in pc to be a screensaver?
[00:50] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx open console and run aptitude update and sudo aptitude upgrade
[00:50] <James147> ^^ "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"
[00:51] <Refraxx> ok
[00:53] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx by the way It might be good idea to install newer kubuntu, because 9.04 security updates ends in october
[00:54] <drunkncrew> does "sudo aptitude full-upgrade" update KDE as well? After adding the backports PPA?
[00:54] <James147> not to mention all the bugfixes in later kde version you ge with newer kubuntus
[00:54] <drunkncrew> nm
[00:54] <James147> drunkncrew: yes (assuming you ran sudo aptitude update or similar)
[00:54] <Refraxx> I try to update my pc, but it keeps coming up with error messages & tells me it couldn't finish. A problem I will need help with later
[00:54] <drunkncrew> james147: thanks
[00:54] <Refraxx> one thing at a time.
[00:56] <James147> Refraxx: I think the broken updates is a larger problem then what we ahve been trying to fix.... since fixing that and updating properly will probally solve your issues
[00:57] <Refraxx> ok, you saying we need to focus on THAT first,then?
[00:57] <James147> yes
[00:57] <James147> can you pastebin the error you get?
[00:58] <Refraxx> ok.Should I start with something small? Or go ahead & try to upgrade everything all at once?
[00:58] <James147> Refraxx: upgrade enverything
[00:58] <Refraxx> yes, I will paste it.
[00:58] <Refraxx> ok, starting now
[01:01] <Refraxx> Do I have to log out of this chatroom? I keep getting crash reports. That's new,even for me.
[01:03] <Refraxx> The details part says: Executable: systemsettings PID: 5384 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)
[01:03] <Refraxx> I'll try loging out of the chat first & see if thats any better.
[01:04] <Torch> Refraxx: why would that help systemsettings crashes?
[01:05] <Refraxx> I dont know.....I'm grasping @ straws here. And it never crashed THAT soon before.
[01:05] <Refraxx> Its getting to the point where I sit in the chair a certain way & dont breathe for a while when it starts up
[01:06] <Refraxx> Hoping that if I do that, everything will be fine & running smoothly that day....
[01:11] <drunkncrew> does kubuntu have a software source center similar to ubuntu, where you can browse different categories, etc?
[01:12] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx before the problem started did you do update to kde 4.3?
[01:12] <Refraxx> I dont remember if I did or not. Is there a way to check?
[01:13] <Refraxx> Crash info:      http://paste.ubuntu.com/484730/plain/
[01:14] <Refraxx> This is the first time it has crashed this soon. I cant even see how many/what kind of updates I have to install...
[01:15] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx run in konsole systemsettings --version
[01:15] <ArGGu^^> it should so the kde4 version
[01:15] <ArGGu^^> *show
[01:15] <Refraxx> It's never crashed like this before-so I am gonna try to do it out of chat & see if that works.
[01:15] <Refraxx> ok, I'll run that first
[01:16] <Refraxx> 2 "--"? or just one?
[01:16] <ArGGu^^> 2
[01:16] <Refraxx> ok
[01:18] <Refraxx> ok, it says:  KDE:4.3.2   Qt: 4.5.2    System Settings: 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)
[01:21] <Refraxx> Does that help ArGGu?
[01:22] <ArGGu^^> aptitude show kdebase-runtime
[01:22] <ArGGu^^> run that in konsole
[01:22] <ArGGu^^> what is the version
[01:24] <Refraxx> Screw that-I'm sending you the URL to that one. WAY too much to type  :-)
[01:25] <illunatic> sry Refraxx i don't know much about it :) hope you're on the right track
[01:26] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484733/plain/
[01:26] <Refraxx> Me too Illunatic
[01:26] <illunatic> i just recall coming across the gray checkerboard thing recently while copying system files from one partition to another
[01:27] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx
[01:27] <Refraxx> Yes?
[01:27] <ArGGu^^> aptitude show systemsettings
[01:27] <Refraxx> ok
[01:29] <Refraxx> ok, here it is
[01:29] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484735/plain/
[01:31] <Refraxx> illunatic: Did you ever fix that problem?
[01:31] <illunatic> it's wasn't making the desktop like that. it was what appeared when i was looking at splash or wallpaper img iirc
[01:32] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx You have kde 4.3 and kde 4.2 packages and that is bad :S
[01:32] <illunatic> i don't know if it's related at all
[01:32] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx run ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[01:32] <Refraxx> ok
[01:32] <ArGGu^^> paste the output
[01:34] <Refraxx> Its not running anything.
[01:34] <Refraxx> Correction: It's not "outputting" anything
[01:35] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484737/plain/
[01:35] <lubun2> is there a kde equivalent for audacious?
[01:36] <lubun2> sorry i mean audacity
[01:36] <ArGGu^^> lubun2 I think that no, but ofcourse you can use audacity in kde
[01:37] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx when you run "sudo aptitude upgrade" it gives error?
[01:37] <drunkncrew> I have dual 23" monitors and am trying to set them up on an nvidia graphics card. I open up nvidia-settings via terminal and whne it opens, it says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server." So I type out (sudo nvidia-xconfig) in terminal and it says command not found. Is there a different command to accomplish
[01:37] <drunkncrew>  this?
[01:38] <lubun2> audio editor/recorder in kubuntu?
[01:39] <lubun2> ArGGu^^, i would like to have a kde apps if possible
[01:39] <Refraxx> No, ArGGu. I am konsoleing it now, Will paste.
[01:39] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx you have kde 4.3 but those packages are not in jaunty official repos and you have no other repos enabled :S
[01:39] <Refraxx> Ok, So whats my next step?
[01:41] <Refraxx> Can I rectify this problem without spending money?
[01:47] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx run sudo aptitude upgrade
[01:47] <Refraxx> I think I found something that might be useful to you ArGGu. Sending URL in a few seconds
[01:47] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484742/plain/
[01:47] <Refraxx> Look at the bottom part-past the resolving stuff
[01:48] <Refraxx> Does that mean anything to you?
[01:53] <Refraxx> ArGGu? You still online?
[01:53] <ArGGu^^> run sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime=4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1.1
[01:54] <kawfish> I can't connect to a hidden network (that I know is working). Any suggestions?
[01:54] <Refraxx> I just finished the sudo ap upgrade. Want the URL?
[01:54] <ArGGu^^> yes
[01:55] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484745/plain/
[01:56] <Refraxx> You still want me to run the aptitude install thing?
[01:56] <ArGGu^^> yes run sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime=4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1.
[01:56] <ArGGu^^> sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime=4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1..
[01:56] <Refraxx> ok
[01:56] <ArGGu^^> sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime=4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1.1
[01:56] <ArGGu^^> las one is correct
[01:56] <ArGGu^^> *last
[01:56] <Refraxx> :-)   Got it
[01:57] <ArGGu^^> I need to goto sleep soon 4am already :S
[01:57] <Refraxx> I will do this quick
[01:58] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx The main problem is that we need to get all the package to kde 4.2 or kde 4.3 version
[01:58] <ArGGu^^> It is not meant to use packages from different version
[01:58] <Refraxx> It is finished-lemmie put it into a URL. Gonna wanna see this
[01:59] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484746/plain/
[02:00] <Refraxx> Do I tell it Yes or No?
[02:00] <ArGGu^^> Yes
[02:01] <ArGGu^^> let see what version it will install
[02:01] <Refraxx> Its working......
[02:02] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx after it done paste again
[02:02] <Refraxx> I will
[02:04] <Refraxx> Ok, It's done. Still with me?
[02:04] <ArGGu^^> yes
[02:05] <Refraxx> Ok, here's the whole thing.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/484751/plain/
[02:08] <ArGGu^^> run
[02:08] <ArGGu^^> sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime=4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1
[02:09] <ArGGu^^> without the .1 at end
[02:09] <ArGGu^^> let see if there is that version
[02:09] <Refraxx> Running.
[02:10] <ArGGu^^> odd thing is that there should not be any kde 4.3 packages because you don't have any unoffical repos in use :S
[02:12] <Refraxx> Why do I have ANYthing in here that isint compatable with the version I have?
[02:13] <Refraxx> Ok, here we go:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/484752/plain/
[02:13] <ArGGu^^> I meant that sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime=4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1.1 without .1 at end
[02:13] <ArGGu^^> so run sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime=4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1
[02:15] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484754/plain/
[02:16] <Refraxx> How do I aquire the missing packets (or whatever they are called)?
[02:16] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx run sudo aptitude update
[02:17] <Refraxx> ok
[02:17] <ArGGu^^> those packages should be in the repos :S
[02:19] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484757/plain/
[02:19] <Refraxx>  I have to take the dog out--gimmie 2 minutes
[02:19] <Refraxx> brb
[02:20] <ArGGu^^> Refraxx when you are back run sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime=4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1.1
[02:25] <Refraxx> Still here ArGGu?
[02:25] <Refraxx> Running it now
[02:26] <ArGGu^^> ye
[02:26] <ArGGu^^> *yes
[02:26] <Refraxx> ok, here it comes
[02:27] <Refraxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484759/plain/
[02:27] <ArGGu^^> that is odd
[02:27] <ArGGu^^> run
[02:27] <ArGGu^^> apt-cache showpkg kdebase-runtime
[02:28] <ArGGu^^> damm
[02:28] <ArGGu^^> I blind
[02:28] <Refraxx> What?
[02:28] <Refraxx> Something Wrong?
[02:28] <ArGGu^^> I looked like everything is okay with your repos
[02:28] <ArGGu^^> but you have karmic repos
[02:29] <Refraxx> yes,I do.
[02:29] <Refraxx> still want me 2 run the apt-cache?
[02:29] <ArGGu^^> but that reason why you have packages from two kde version
[02:29] <ArGGu^^> no
[02:30] <Refraxx> How the heck did that happen?
[02:30] <ArGGu^^> run sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:30] <ArGGu^^> and replace karmic with jaunty
[02:31] <ArGGu^^> and then run sudo aptitude update
[02:31] <ArGGu^^> and then run sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime=4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1.1
[02:31] <ArGGu^^> and ofcourse save the file afte replace
[02:31] <ArGGu^^> and replace all karmic words
[02:32] <Refraxx> What the?
[02:32] <ArGGu^^> run sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <ArGGu^^> press ctrl+r
[02:32] <Refraxx> I dont know what I'm doing here.   I googled it but can't figure it out!
[02:33] <Refraxx> its 9:30 pm my time
[02:34] <ArGGu^^> here is 04:30 am
[02:34] <Refraxx> How do I back out of this without damaging anything?
[02:35] <ArGGu^^> back out of what?
[02:35] <Refraxx> nvmd-its just kate
[02:35] <Refraxx> When will you be online 2moro?
[02:36] <ArGGu^^> yes but wait a moment
[02:36] <Refraxx> Yes?
[02:37] <Refraxx> Do I jus type "exit" in konsole in the middle of the whatever it does??
[02:38] <ArGGu^^> If I are not at computer when you are
[02:38] <ArGGu^^> you can ask help from someone else
[02:38] <ArGGu^^> the problem is
[02:38] <ArGGu^^> karmic repos in jaunty need to change back to jaunty repos and downgrade kde4 to jaunty version
[02:38] <ArGGu^^> so I think someone else will understand from that what need to do
[02:39] <Refraxx> ok,then. Thanks for all your help & patience
[02:40] <Refraxx> I have 2 go to the gas station b 4 it closes
[02:40] <ArGGu^^> ok I go to sleep now :)
[02:40] <Refraxx> ok, thanx again
[02:40] <Refraxx> exit
[02:41] <Refraxx> sry, wc
[02:41] <ArGGu^^> type /quit
[02:41] <Refraxx> Yeah, thats what I meant 2 do  :-)
[02:42] <abdul> quit
[03:02] <illunatic> haha i need to restore a /usr/ directory on another partition that i rm by mistake
[03:03] <illunatic> !debugfs
[03:03] <illunatic> !info debugfs
[03:05] <illunatic> any tips for restoring a rm dir and all it's files?
[03:05] <illunatic> i know it hasn't been written over or anything
[03:15] <SHJordan> hey
[03:15] <SHJordan> can anyone help me?
[03:15] <illunatic> with what
[03:16] <SHJordan> So, i got Ubuntu 10.04 installed via Wubi ok? I wish to test Kubuntu 10.10 alpha 3, got the iso, is there a way to install it directly on ubuntu?
[03:24] <illunatic> ryan@RLap:~$ sudo adept
[03:24] <illunatic> sudo: must be setuid root[D
[03:24] <illunatic> wat
[03:25] <SHJordan> setuid?
[03:26] <illunatic> yeah
[03:26] <SHJordan> you mean, i must use sudo adept, ok
[03:26] <illunatic> no i'm having my own probs :)
[03:26] <illunatic> i can't use root
[03:26] <SHJordan> hmm
[03:26] <illunatic> i just copied over my /usr/ dir from a backup on external HDD
[03:26] <illunatic> lost all permissions apparently
[03:27] <SHJordan> no help on my issue?
[03:27] <SHJordan> why not reset your passwd?
[03:27] <SHJordan> isn't it simple?
[03:27] <illunatic> is that all?
[03:27] <illunatic> :D
[03:27] <SHJordan> http://www.botskool.com/geeks/how-recover-your-ubuntu-1004-password
[03:28] <SHJordan> i think so...
[03:28] <SHJordan> =\
[03:28] <SHJordan> i need help on my issue now =\
[03:31] <SHJordan> i need help on my issue now =\
[03:31] <drunkncrew> I'm trying to setup dual monitors using nvidia-setttings manager and when I click "Save to xorg.config file" I get (Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.)   I am opening nvidia-settings manager using sudo command, should I be using a different root command to opn nvidia-settings?
[03:31] <SHJordan> Recording: So, i got Ubuntu 10.04 installed via Wubi ok? I wish to test Kubuntu 10.10 alpha 3, got the iso, is there a way to install it directly on ubuntu?
[03:53] <illunatic> i appear to be stuck in a paradox
[03:53] <illunatic> ryan@RLap:~$ sudo su
[03:53] <illunatic> sudo: must be setuid root
[03:53] <illunatic> as you can see, i can no chmod /usr/bin/root
[03:55] <illunatic> never mind got it
[03:57] <Walzmyn> how is the "show hidden icons" trey thingy supposed to work in 4.5?
[03:58] <Freejack`> What is the best way to run smuxi-server on boot? Haven't set up a script for this in a while.
[03:58] <Freejack`> using kubuntu
[05:15] <zosky> howdy yall. pretty quite in here compared to the ubuntu chan :)
[05:16] <zosky> how to get camera files via CL ? can get them from dolphin with the URL 'camera:/USB PTP Class Camera@usb:/' but i need to get to them from a bash script
[05:21] <rackIT> in hardy, I could specify a default file to open in ktimetracker... in lucid I have to pick my file every time I open it. Is there a config file or some way to specify a default ics?
[05:30] <illunatic> whew
[05:30] <illunatic> i've identified lost data at block range 1,900,544 - 1,835,007. now to attempt recovery xD
[05:37] <byakuya> hi
[05:38] <byakuya> i dont know what the hell is that
[05:41] <illunatic> is it even possible to recover an entire directory?
[05:42] <illunatic> or only specific files?
[06:09] <illunatic> how do i install from a tar.gz file?
[06:09] <illunatic> i did a tar -zxfv
[06:09] <illunatic> can't figure out how to make or make install it
[06:10] <illunatic> -zxvf rather
[06:16] <well_laid_lawn> it would have unpacked to a dir - is there a readme file?
[06:17] <well_laid_lawn> and what was the app?
[06:17] <well_laid_lawn> illunatic:  ^^
[06:18] <illunatic> i got it :D
[06:18] <illunatic> foremost
[06:18] <well_laid_lawn> k
[06:18] <illunatic> i am trying to recover /usr/ directory on another partition
[06:18] <illunatic> block range 1,900,544 - 1,835,007
[06:18] <dennister> need some help: local laser conntected to lp0 isn't recognized
[06:19] <dennister> already checked in syslog; lp0 and parport working
[06:19] <illunatic> http://linux.sys-con.com/node/117909?page=0,1 as per this tutorial, the dls command doesn't exist
[06:20] <well_laid_lawn> what a horrible ad ridden site that was
[06:21] <illunatic> yeah
[06:21] <illunatic> agrees
[06:21] <well_laid_lawn> I just shut my browser when the ads wouldn't stop coming
[06:22] <illunatic> why is dls and unknown request for debugfs? two tutorials have told me to use it
[06:22] <illunatic> http://www.theavidcoder.com/?p=3 this one is not as bad
[06:22] <well_laid_lawn> k
[06:23] <dennister> i've had this hp 4L hooked up to this same 'puter dozens of times, works, but now...always see in the cups interface: "destination printer does not exist"
[06:24] <illunatic> dls tool from TSK < oh i guess i need tsk... w/e that is
[06:25] <illunatic> !tsk
[06:25] <illunatic> !info tsk
[06:25] <illunatic> yar
[06:25] <dennister> checked the cables, ...seems to be a hardware problem all of a sudden...printer just isn't detected on lp0
[06:26] <illunatic> i'm onto it http://www.sleuthkit.org/sleuthkit/man/blkls.html
[06:27] <dennister> anyone got any ideas? another log to check?
[06:28] <well_laid_lawn> dennister:  how is it hooked up? - usb?
[06:28] <dennister> no...parallel cable...had it on other machine and just moved it to this one
[06:29] <well_laid_lawn> you can check dmesg to see if there is anything about it
[06:30] <well_laid_lawn> !dmesg
[06:32] <dennister> well_laid_lawn: yes, i know how to use dmesg and syslog....dmesg seems to have a lot of: "ppdev0: registered pardevice" followed immediately each time with: ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
[06:32] <well_laid_lawn> dennister:  seems it might be the h/ware - tried it back where it came from/
[06:33] <dennister> yes...sure it will work on other pc, but I need it working on this one :-( I only moved it Wed night
[06:34] <Dr-parg> hi
[06:34] <well_laid_lawn> I just meant to check it
[06:34] <dennister> it's heavy :(
[06:34] <well_laid_lawn> heh :]
[06:36] <dennister> I know I had printer working on this machine, and then for months had it elsewhere, so this time my troubleshooting earlier revealed that I'd disabled the parallel port in the bios...it's enabled again now, but...
[06:37] <dennister> why does the pardev0 keep getting registered and then unregistered in dmesg? anyone know?
[06:39] <dennister> or what this repeated line in dmesg means? audit(1282973679.051:17): type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="a::" denied_mask="a::" name="/dev/tty" pid=13760 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" namespace="default"
[06:41] <illunatic> uh
[06:41] <illunatic> one sec dennister
[06:44] <illunatic> ls -al /usr/sbin/cupsd
[06:44] <illunatic> tell me what that says?
[06:44] <illunatic> for dennister ^
[06:45] <dennister> illunatic: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-06-18 11:15 /usr/sbin/cupsd
[06:50] <illunatic> http://www.thewebhostinghero.com/tutorials/linux-file-permissions.html dennister take a look at this and see if all of the permissions match up to what you need
[06:51] <illunatic> if i'm correct, then your user is being denied write permissions
[06:52] <byakuya> good morning guys
[06:52] <illunatic> but i couldn't be way out of line here.
[06:55] <dennister> illunatic: i realize you're trying to be helpful, and I really *do* appreciate it, but that file would take hours to read, learn, decipher, try to apply to this situation...
[06:55] <well_laid_lawn> there might be something in the auth log
[06:56] <dennister> i'm in the lp group, checked that, but the group doesn't seem to have the write permissions
[06:59] <dennister> and now that I've done some updates, including a new kernel, so an important module in system settings isn't working..."user management"
[07:00] <dennister> will be back guys...gonna reboot into new kernel
[07:00] <byakuya> ya renot lucky at all dude
[07:14] <dennister> k, guys...i'm not getting the unregistered errors in dmesg anymore since reboot, but hp toolbox is still not able to detect a printer at lpt
[07:16] <well_laid_lawn> !printing
[07:17] <dennister> oops...syslog is still showing "unregisterd pardevice"
[07:18] <dennister> well_laid_lawn: thx, but I know that, but cups won't help if the printer isn't being detected by the hardware or kernel
[07:18] <well_laid_lawn> ofc not
[07:18] <well_laid_lawn> ...
[07:19] <dennister> actually, I don't think I'm in a new kernel after all, as while I downloaded it with adept, it's still the old one here....with a new one I'd have been faced with nvidia driver issue again for this new card
[07:19] <well_laid_lawn> try uname -a
[07:20] <dennister> 2.6.24-28-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 25
[07:20] <well_laid_lawn> or it might not have updated grub to show the new kernel
[07:21] <well_laid_lawn> 24? - which kubuntu are you using?
[07:21] <dennister> checked all the entries in /boot and /boot/grub already before I cam back to the room
[07:21] <dennister> well_laid_lawn: hardy on this one...jaunty on other two
[07:21] <well_laid_lawn> k
[07:23] <dennister> and it's based on hardy server...don't want to upgrade yet cause there's still a couple of years left on the LTS
[07:24] <well_laid_lawn> that's fine :]
[07:24] <well_laid_lawn> I did the same with dapper
[07:25] <dennister> ack! someone who's not going to pressure me onto the upgrade treadmill! how lovely!
[07:25] <dennister> ty!
[07:25] <well_laid_lawn> heh :}
[07:29] <dennister> well folks, got go to bed...almost 3 am here, and if I can't get this going on this pc tomorrow I'll have to put it back on the other one
[07:29] <dennister> thanks for trying to help
[07:29] <well_laid_lawn> luck :]
[07:29] <dennister> well_laid_lawn: ty again...'night
[08:11] <DarkriftX> what is the name of the kde update manager? mine keeps closing itself every few weeks and i wanna try it via command line to see if there is an error or not
[09:22] <NuclearStr1der> Hey, can you any of you help me quick?
[09:22] <NuclearStr1der> Any idea why I've been banned from the #ubuntu channel, despite the fact that I've never even used Freenode before today?
[09:25] <NuclearStr1der> Anyone?
[09:26] <Mamarok> !ask | NuclearStr1der
[09:27] <Mamarok> NuclearStr1der: for bans please ask in #ubuntu-ops
[09:29] <Mamarok> NuclearStr1der: please talk in here
[09:33] <NuclearStr1der> @Mamrok Sorry, brand new to IRC.
[10:10] <wele> hello, is there any packeg can make avi file work?
[10:16] <well_laid_lawn> wele:  try vlc
[10:34] <sergio> salve
[11:04] <akssps011> Is there a way to install packages in kubuntu without an Internet connection >
[11:04] <akssps011> ?
[11:06] <akssps011> I want to install build-essential
[11:08] <akssps011> When I boot my pc with kubuntu live cd, I get error related to bootarg (supply bootarg)
[11:11] <well_laid_lawn> !aptoncd
[11:13] <akssps011> well_laid_lawn: I iried but it doesn't include build-essential from my system. I tried reinstalling build-essential via apt-get but when I install it on my m/c without Internet connection it fails to find libc or something of that sort
[11:13] <akssps011> *iried = tried aptoncd
[11:15] <well_laid_lawn> seems it missed some dependencies then akssps011
[11:15] <akssps011> well_laid_lawn: any other way then ?
[11:16] <well_laid_lawn> akssps011:  I've never tried to install stuff without a net connection - aptoncd is the only way I know
[11:17] <akssps011> ok
[11:17] <akssps011> I have never too, but kubuntu hasn't detected my ethernet so I need to install a driver for that first
[11:17] <akssps011> well_laid_lawn: and for installing the driver I need build-esential
[11:18] <well_laid_lawn> akssps011:  what is the net card that needs a home built driver?
[11:20] <akssps011> well_laid_lawn: not a home built driver, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1505697 this is my exact problem
[11:20] <well_laid_lawn> k
[11:21] <akssps011> well_laid_lawn:  the solution there requires build-essential and I am really stuck in getting it to work
[11:23] <well_laid_lawn> akssps011:  I see that - I don't know what else to suggest except maybe try in ubuntu for someone with experience with the driver or aptoncd sorry
[11:23] <well_laid_lawn> #ubuntu
[11:24] <akssps011> well_laid_lawn: ok...thanks
[11:24] <well_laid_lawn> luck :]
[11:24] <akssps011> :)
[11:36] <well_laid_lawn> !away > jtheuer
[11:47] <hsr> Hello
[11:47] <hsr> Is it possible to disable plasma widgets for Desktop 1 and let it enabled for desktop 2?
[11:48] <hsr> Is it possible to disable plasma widgets for Desktop 1 and let it enabled for desktop 2 for same user?
[11:48] <javad> hi
[11:48] <hsr> Anyone acive here???????
[11:48] <hsr> active?
[11:49] <hsr> Is it possible to disable plasma widgets for Desktop 1 and let it enabled for desktop 2?
[11:53] <illunatic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484899/ does any of this show why my mic does not work?
[12:10] <mudassar> anybody here can tell me if he knows about VHDL/FPGA/JTAG ???
[12:13] <Vladio> hello
[12:14] <Vladio> hi folks, I am new to linux, gave it a shot, installed kubuntu and love it so far. i have just ran into problems and can not solve them alone. Would anyone plase help me?
[12:16] <Vladio> can anyone see me type?
[12:16] <well_laid_lawn> Vladio:  yep
[12:17] <Vladio> cool :D
[12:17] <Vladio> I wasnt sure if i am ignored or something :D
[12:17] <well_laid_lawn> it can be quiet here
[12:18] <Vladio> since youre the one who answered me, lol, could you try to help me?
[12:18] <well_laid_lawn> it all depends
[12:18] <Vladio> i know
[12:18] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[12:18] <Vladio> not taking everything for granted
[12:18] <Vladio> i trie stuff for myself, but no luck
[12:19] <Vladio> ok after installig kubuntu 1O .O4, on amd with nvidia everthing went well
[12:20] <Vladio> after installing the updates and reboot, everything went well too
[12:20] <Vladio> the nextday, i couldnt get my ethernet to work
[12:20] <Vladio> no idea why
[12:21] <Vladio> i have tried a command...
[12:21] <well_laid_lawn> ifconfig  ?
[12:21] <Vladio> more /etc/network/interfaces
[12:21] <Vladio> that one
[12:22] <Vladio> and the result is...
[12:22] <Vladio> hold on, ill just punch it into the console
[12:22] <well_laid_lawn> !paste
[12:23] <Vladio> i am getting auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[12:23] <well_laid_lawn> no eth0 there
[12:23] <Vladio> i am on my netbook right in front of my kubuntu install, it takes a moment to rewrite it from screen
[12:23] <Vladio> yes
[12:23] <Vladio> o eth
[12:24] <Vladio> before there was internet
[12:24] <Vladio> everything went well...
[12:24] <well_laid_lawn> does it show in   lspci   ?
[12:24] <Vladio> last thing i installed were programs to send data to support in case a program crashes
[12:24] <Vladio> lpsci says no command found
[12:25] <Vladio> wait
[12:25] <Vladio> lspci :D
[12:25] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[12:25] <Vladio> yes, it found the ethernet controller
[12:26] <well_laid_lawn> what sort of card is it ?
[12:26] <well_laid_lawn> brand?
[12:27] <Vladio> it is a realtek semi... rtl8111 8168 pci express gigabit thernet controller rev 01
[12:27] <Vladio> but it is onboard
[12:27] <well_laid_lawn> that should be ok
[12:27] <Vladio> i thought su
[12:27] <Vladio> so myself
[12:28] <Vladio> it worked after install
[12:28] <Vladio> like a charm
[12:29] <well_laid_lawn> the update brought in a new kernel ?
[12:29] <Vladio> now when I go to the disconnected icon on the bottom panel it says network disconnected and rightclicking says not management disabled
[12:29] <Vladio> this I do not now
[12:29] <Vladio> how do I tell?
[12:30] <well_laid_lawn> have a look in /boot for more then one kernel
[12:31] <Vladio> ok, will do...
[12:31] <Vladio> i have ľ.
[12:32] <well_laid_lawn> k
[12:32] <Vladio> i have 2.6.32-24 generic
[12:32] <Vladio> there is somethig  like abi and config in front of it
[12:32] <Vladio> there is more, but on kernel only
[12:32] <Vladio> one kernel number
[12:33] <well_laid_lawn> that's fine
[12:34] <well_laid_lawn> you can try   sudo service networking restart    to see if it works again - I have to go out to dinner now sorry
[12:34] <well_laid_lawn> bye and luck
[12:34] <Vladio> ok enjoy your lunch
[12:35] <Vladio> thanks
[12:35] <Vladio>  :D
[12:36] <Vladio> would anyone else give a shot and try to help me get my eth up?
[12:37] <Scherenhaenden> hi everybody
[12:37] <Vladio> hi
[12:37] <Vladio> how are ya?
[12:37] <Scherenhaenden> im ok...
[12:37] <Scherenhaenden> n u?
[12:38] <Vladio> good, thanks for asking
[12:38] <Vladio> these folks are asleep though
[12:38] <Vladio> lol
[12:38] <Vladio> are you german?
[12:38] <Scherenhaenden> im having a lot o troubls with my audio... always when my computer start up... i got to write sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=laptop
[12:38] <Scherenhaenden>  to get audio
[12:38] <Scherenhaenden> yeah
[12:38] <Scherenhaenden> well im not german
[12:38] <Vladio> oesterreicher?
[12:38] <Scherenhaenden> but i live in germany
[12:38] <Scherenhaenden> nö
[12:38] <Vladio> aaah ok
[12:38] <FloodBotK2> Scherenhaenden: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <Scherenhaenden> ich komme aus venezuela
[12:39] <Scherenhaenden> FloodBotK2: thanks... sorry
[12:39] <Vladio> wie lange bist du Deutscher ann?
[12:39] <Scherenhaenden> ich bin kein deutscher... ich wohne bloß hier
[12:39] <Vladio> achsoooo
[12:40] <Vladio> tschuldigung :)
[12:40] <Scherenhaenden> kein problem
[12:40] <Scherenhaenden> ;)
[12:40] <Vladio> hast du auch 10.04 installiert?
[12:40] <Scherenhaenden> im having a lot o troubls with my audio. always when my computer start up... i got to write sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=laptop to get audio
[12:40] <Scherenhaenden> also.. jein
[12:40] <Vladio> lol
[12:41] <Scherenhaenden> ich hattes... jetzt habe ich 10.10
[12:41] <Vladio> mit sound kann ich nix anfangen
[12:41] <Vladio> bin new im linux
[12:41] <Vladio> mein eth geht net mehr :D
[12:41] <Scherenhaenden> achso... wo kommst du her?
[12:41] <Vladio> Slowakei
[12:41] <Scherenhaenden> was muss du machen?
[12:42] <Vladio> mein netzwerk ist disabled
[12:42] <Scherenhaenden> slowakei?... bist du da grad? oder wohnst du auch in deutschland?
[12:42] <Vladio> ich bin in der slowakei
[12:42] <Scherenhaenden> ich kann dir helfen
[12:42] <Vladio> kennst du mein land?
[12:42] <Vladio> wirklich????????????
[12:42] <Scherenhaenden> damit kenne ich mich ein bißchen aus
[12:42] <Scherenhaenden> ne
[12:42] <Vladio> faaaaaaaaablehaft
[12:42] <Scherenhaenden> ich war noch nicht da aber in der tschechei
[12:42] <Vladio> wir waren mal ein land
[12:43] <Scherenhaenden> wie kannst du so gut deutsch?
[12:43] <Scherenhaenden> ja
[12:43] <Scherenhaenden> ein mal... wo ich kind war XD!!
[12:43] <Vladio> hab es in der schule irgentwo gelernt :D
[12:43] <crunch2_> Hello, im having a little trouble to install matlab in kubuntu. When i run the install script ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/484440/ ) in ubuntu it questions me if i want to run the aplication in the terminal and it starts the GUI for the install. In kubuntu if i execute the file through terminal it starts the text based install menu.  Any tips? thanks in advance
[12:43] <Scherenhaenden> echt?
[12:43] <Vladio> ja
[12:43] <Scherenhaenden> nur in der schule
[12:43] <Scherenhaenden> nicht schlecht
[12:43] <Vladio> hi crunch, this is way over me
[12:44] <Scherenhaenden> vladio
[12:44] <Scherenhaenden> hast du teamviewer?
[12:44] <Vladio> habe auch fuer Dell und Oracle als manager gearbeitet
[12:44] <Scherenhaenden> mm ok
[12:44] <Vladio> fuer den DE oder At markt
[12:44] <Scherenhaenden> achso deswegen kannst du so gut deutsch...
[12:44] <Scherenhaenden> nicht nur ind er schule
[12:44] <Scherenhaenden> ich kann dir mit deinem komputer helfen
[12:44] <crunch2_> @vladio thanks anyway
[12:44] <Vladio> teamviewer geht nicht
[12:44] <Scherenhaenden> ne?
[12:44] <Vladio> crunch, no problem :D
[12:44] <Scherenhaenden> wieso?
[12:45] <Scherenhaenden> bei mir gehts immer
[12:45] <Vladio> Scheren ich bin an meinem netbook, vor meinem linux pc
[12:45] <Scherenhaenden> so helfer ich immer einem kumpel
[12:45] <Scherenhaenden> achso
[12:45] <Vladio> der hat keinen netz... dass ist das problem
[12:45] <Scherenhaenden> sind 2 unterschiedliche komputers
[12:45] <Vladio> ich kenne es auch
[12:45] <Vladio> ja
[12:45] <Scherenhaenden> mm ok
[12:45] <Vladio> netz war dort, nach einem tag war es dann offline
[12:45] <Scherenhaenden> machen wir denn so... du hast kein überhaupt keine eth?
[12:45] <Scherenhaenden> ok
[12:46] <Scherenhaenden> dann komm zur konsole
[12:46] <Vladio> ok
[12:46] <Scherenhaenden> sagt mal wenn du da bist
[12:46] <Vladio> bin da
[12:46] <Scherenhaenden> gut... jetzt... ifconfig
[12:46] <Scherenhaenden> und sagt mir was du bekommst...  I'm konfused now :P
[14:08] <burgua> hi all!
[14:08] <burgua> in kdm i have always "gnome-session" bydefault
[14:08] <mfraz74> hi burgua
[14:09] <burgua> how to switch it?
[14:12] <illunatic> http://bayimg.com/eaoBoaacK well i found the simple solution to that mic problem
[14:20] <adz21c> Hi, I am trying to get my metamodes for twinview set up correctly but I am not having much luck. I have a GTX 470 and plugged into it I have a 17" sony (DFP-0), 22" LG (CRT) and my TV which it is actually plugged in via my Denon AVR1610 av-receiver (DFP-1). What I generally want to do is have DFP-0+CRT as desktop systems but when when I am watching a DVD etc flick over to just DFP-1. I also want CRT to work by itself some times for
[14:20] <adz21c>  the odd game I might play. The closest meta mode configuration I got to is in this xorg.conf with the xrandr output below it http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/3XqNR18K . As you can see it has the desktop systems fine but seems to have no knowledge of my av-receiver. Any ideas?
[14:34] <jakent> anyone able to provide some insight into using a WG111v2... is the ndis route the only way to go?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:42] <adz21c> arvind_khadri: does this look like yours? http://www.belkin.com/support/article/?lid=en&pid=f5d7230-4&aid=5999&scid=0
[14:42] <adz21c> doh
[14:42] <adz21c> Hi, I am trying to get my metamodes for twinview set up correctly but I am not having much luck. I have a GTX 470 and plugged into it I have a 17" sony (DFP-0), 22" LG (CRT) and my TV which it is actually plugged in via my Denon AVR1610 av-receiver (DFP-1). What I generally want to do is have DFP-0+CRT as desktop systems but when when I am watching a DVD etc flick over to just DFP-1. I also want CRT to work by itself some times for
[14:42] <adz21c>  the odd game I might play. The closest meta mode configuration I got to is in this xorg.conf with the xrandr output below it http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/3XqNR18K . As you can see it has the desktop systems fine but seems to have no knowledge of my av-receiver. Any ideas?
[14:42] <FloodBotK2> adz21c: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:42] <Vladio> adzc, twinview is making my head ache too
[14:43] <Vladio> it never remembers the settings
[14:43] <adz21c> what ya mean remember the settings? as in which mode you had selected when last logged in?
[14:43] <Vladio> yes
[14:43] <adz21c> yea i noticed that, stopped when i upgraded to 10.04
[14:43] <Vladio> the second monitor is always disbled, untill I set it manually
[14:44] <Vladio> and i cannot save it to the xconf
[14:44] <adz21c> i think it picks your first metamode by default
[14:44] <Vladio> it states a parsing error of some kind
[14:44] <Vladio> yes
[14:45] <Vladio> is it something to what you experience?
[14:45] <Vladio> something simmilar
[14:45] <adz21c> if you pastebin your xorg.conf i can have a look
[14:51] <Vladio> adzc sure, i will post it here
[14:51] <adz21c> brb
[14:54] <adz21c> bk
[14:55] <hamit> wadap people
[14:55] <Vladio> wb
[15:15] <BluesKaj> adz21c, what kind of video connection to your receiver from the graphics card ?
[15:15] <adz21c> hdmi
[15:18] <adz21c> nvidia-settings can see it
[15:19] <akSeya> hey there ;)
[15:19] <akSeya> folks... how to I set translucent windows like in here: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Dark-Translucent+window+QtCurve+config?content=128877 ?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> adz21c, and the denon is connected by hdmi to the tv ?
[15:21] <adz21c> ye
[15:21] <adz21c> yes*
[15:21] <adz21c> i can get it to work by fiddling with nvidia-settings
[15:22] <BluesKaj> whynot connect the graphics card directly to the tv?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> gotta goo, bbiab
[15:22] <adz21c> because its easy to flick between sources using the av receiver
[15:22] <adz21c> cya :-)
[15:25] <adz21c> akSeya: based on the post and from i remember in a blog post you need to have the aurorae window decorator
[15:26] <akSeya> adz21c, i have but i cand get the trasnaprecy effect on dolphin background
[15:26] <adz21c> oh ok, i don't know then, i not tried it myself, I hate that effect personally :-)
[15:30] <akSeya> you know.. notifications, kmenu and the Run command window are translucent already.. I may be missing something
[15:30] <akSeya> :(
[15:30] <adz21c> i think thats plasma
[15:30] <adz21c> my devices inside system tray pops up very slightly translucent
[15:31] <adz21c> same with kmenu
[16:23] <zapper> hi
[16:24] <zapper> i have trouble win kwin compositing
[16:24] <zapper> screen edges dont work correctly to activate anyu effect
[16:24] <zapper> the only one that works properly is the bottom-right corner
[16:25] <zapper> on the other corners i have to retry lots of times until the effect gets activated
[16:26] <zapper> it seems as if the activation area of those corners was out of screen
[16:26] <zapper> does anyone know how can i solve that?
[16:26] <BluesKaj> zapper, look in system settings / desktop effects
[16:27] <kurumin_> www.google.com
[16:27] <zapper> i googled about that and i couldnt find any answer
[16:27] <zapper> thats why i come here to ask
[16:28] <zapper> its my last option
[16:29] <zapper> i already looked in the system settings and cant find anything related to the problem
[16:30] <zapper> and of course i have all the corneers with the same efect activated
[16:31] <BluesKaj> zapper, sounds like your screen resolution is too low
[16:32] <zapper> nope, actually its at the maximum that my screen can handle
[16:32] <zapper> 1280x800
[16:33] <zapper> it used to work well on hardy
[16:33] <zapper> when i switched to jaunty the top left corner started failing
[16:34] <zapper> and now in lucid only the bottom right corner works
[16:37] <BluesKaj> zapper try the top left
[16:43] <rethus> how can i save a "Activity" for kde desktop?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> rethus, which "activity" ?
[16:58] <rethus> right mouse on desctop >> activities
[17:00] <BluesKaj> yes but which one ?
[17:02] <rethus> doen't matter... how can i save any activity?
[17:02] <rethus> or how cani rename one
[17:02] <rethus> all what i know how to delete one
[17:05] <BluesKaj> desktop wallpaper, or...?there aren't many options
[17:39] <roberto_> como funciona esta cosa
[17:39] <poseidon2010> que cosa ?
[17:41] <roberto_> es primera vez que utilizo Qyassel IRC
[17:42] <roberto_> Quassel IRC
[17:43] <poseidon2010> ohhhhhh pues and a file---Networks----Configure networks
[17:44] <poseidon2010> bueno......
[17:44] <poseidon2010> eso ya lo debes de ternc ofnirgurado
[17:44] <poseidon2010> el tema es que si quiees meteerte a otros canales
[17:45] <poseidon2010> tendras que hacer un /JOIN <Nombre_Canal>
[17:45] <poseidon2010> o algo asi :P
[17:45] <roberto_> si. gracias, estoy revisando
[17:45] <poseidon2010> eso es lo normal en cualquier IRC
[17:45] <poseidon2010> y claro.....
[17:45] <poseidon2010> siendo un canal en Ingles...... pues deberiamos  hablar en Ingles por respeto a los demas
[17:45] <DexterF> hi
[17:45] <roberto_> bueno, es que entré como usuario de KUbuntu
[17:46] <poseidon2010> thats fine robert
[17:46] <DexterF> in 9.04 there is no printer config in system settings - why? what can I do here?
[17:46] <roberto_> I'm sory
[17:59] <ArGGu^^> DexterF there should be printer configuration in kubuntu 9.04 in system settings
[17:59] <DexterF> ArGGu^^: that's what I thought
[17:59] <DexterF> but it aint ther
[17:59] <DexterF> e
[17:59] <DexterF> ill try to talk the guy through the cups browser interface
[18:00] <ArGGu^^> DexterF
[18:00] <DexterF> what?
[18:00] <ArGGu^^> have check the advanched tab
[18:00] <ArGGu^^> *have you
[18:01] <DexterF> no
[18:01] <ArGGu^^> it might be in there
[18:03] <DexterF> ah...
[18:03] <DexterF> thanks, there
[18:19] <surunveri> hi is there way to make midis playable for kubuntu
[18:19] <surunveri> ?
[18:33] <DexterF> surunveri: check out timidity and rosegarden
[18:34] <DexterF> or instaed of timidity fluidsynth
[18:34] <DexterF> fluid and timi are backends, rosegarden fronteend
[18:34] <draik> I have 2 printers, HP DeskJet 5800 and HP DeskJet F4180. None of these will do landscape printing, just portrait. Any way to resolve this?
[18:36] <surunveri> kk
[18:36] <surunveri> i dont really know what's the difference between backend and frontend
[18:36] <surunveri> :D
[18:38] <DexterF> draik: in cups (browser at localhost:631) generate two new entries for each printer with landscape orientation set and use those printers if you want to print LS. quick and dirty but works
[18:38] <DexterF> but the print dialogues should offer you SL perfectly, still
[18:40] <draik> DexterF: Generate 2 new entries?
[18:40] <surunveri> but im isntallin rosegarden with aptitude
[18:41] <surunveri> so let's see once it's completed :D
[18:41] <DexterF> draik: well, add the 2 printers as new again, buit conf them as landsacpe. give them according names
[18:42] <DexterF> so you have 4 printers in print dialogues
[18:42] <DexterF> gtg
[18:54] <surunveri> ok i installed rosegarden but
[18:54] <surunveri> there's no sound
[18:55] <surunveri> :D
[18:55] <surunveri> when playing a midifile
[18:55] <FloodBotK2> surunveri: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <surunveri> anyone know what might be the problem :<
[19:04] <allan_> exit
[19:10] <SHJordan> is there a wayto backup my applications packages downloaded from the updater? if yes, how can i restore them?
[19:11] <DaskreecH> SHJordan: They are in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory
[19:11] <SHJordan> hmm
[19:11] <SHJordan> ok
[19:11] <SHJordan> thx
[19:11] <johnflux> Is there a way to reinstall all my kde packages? :)
[19:11] <SHJordan> DaskreecH: how can i copy back to this directory? seems protected or something
[19:12] <DaskreecH> SHJordan: it
[19:12] <johnflux> When I run plasma-desktop it crashes plasma-desktop: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so: undefined symbol: _ZN6Plasma6Corona12mapAnimationENS_8Animator9AnimationES2_
[19:12] <SHJordan> DaskreecH: any way to copy back so?
[19:12] <johnflux> This is with KDE4.5
[19:12] <DaskreecH> it's root owned. Only user that can change that directory
[19:12] <johnflux> in backports
[19:12] <DaskreecH> johnflux: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[19:12] <johnflux> DaskreecH: that won't reinstall them
[19:13] <SHJordan> DaskreecH: any chmod trick?
[19:13] <DaskreecH> --reinstall at the end?
[19:13] <DaskreecH> SHJordan: nope just sudo the copy
[19:13] <SHJordan> DaskreecH: kinda learning, how can i do it via Konsole?
[19:14] <SHJordan> my backed-up folder is on /media/disk-1/Downloads/DO UBUNTU/archives/
[19:16] <DaskreecH> SHJordan: sudo cp /media/disk-1/Dowloads/DOUBUNTU/archives/* /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:16] <johnflux> SHJordan: what's the point in backing up that folder?
[19:16] <SHJordan> johnflux: no need to re-download all packages
[19:17] <DaskreecH> johnflux: You can update multiple computers on a single download
[19:18] <johnflux> SHJordan: I don't think you're doing what you think you're doing
[19:19] <johnflux> SHJordan: and that is what you're trying to do ?  update multiple computers?
[19:19] <johnflux> iirc, isn't there a caching server specifically for this task?
[19:20] <DaskreecH> Yep but one step at a time ;)
[19:20] <glaucous> What package contains the uic (user interface compiler) version 4.5? I have qt4 libraries, but only 3.5 of UIC.
[19:21] <SHJordanX> DaskreecH: my bad... it copied... but ommited something, don't know what...
[19:21] <cwh1> finally - found this IRC
[19:21] <buntunub> howdy all -- running Lucid here and I recently upgraded to KDE4.5 via backports and when I did so, I lost my kubuntu shutdown splash screen. How can I put it back
[19:21] <johnflux> glaucous: libqt4-dev
[19:22] <buntunub> does libqt4-dev have anything to do with a shutdown splash screen/
[19:22] <glaucous> johnflux: Got it, then I just have to set uic to use qt4 uic (which I found), instead of qt3
[19:23] <glaucous> Which actually was called uic-qt4
[19:24] <glaucous> buntunub: No it does not. :)
[19:29] <tecnivoro> nm]
[19:37] <surunveri> hey
[19:37] <surunveri> anynoe could helpme out with making midi files playable with kubuntu
[19:37] <surunveri> i followed someone's advice and gotthis program named rosegarden
[19:37] <surunveri> which seems to open the midi files and play them
[19:37] <surunveri> but no sound is produced
[19:37] <surunveri> so idk
[19:37] <surunveri> :D
[19:38] <v3nd3tta``> doesn't amarok play midi files?
[19:38] <DaskreecH> !midi
[19:42] <cwh1> I am working on a a PC with VM Virtual Box and kubuntu installed. Is there a way to minimize the windows so they do not take up the entire screen?
[19:45] <cwh1> I am working on a a PC with VM Virtual Box and kubuntu installed. Is there a way to minimize the windows so they do not take up the entire screen within kubuntu?
[19:49] <glaucous> What is the command that is run when using "Run Command" with Alt+F2? Trying to start plasma-desktop, which doesn't seem to work when making a script with "plasma-desktop"
[19:50] <surunveri> gah why is this midi thing so complicated 8D
[19:51] <glaucous> (glaucous) Never mind what I said.
[19:55] <user1_> http://www.kubuntu.es
[19:56] <user1_> http://www.ubuntu.es/
[19:57] <surunveri> i did just about what the guide said and midi files still dont work
[19:58] <surunveri> seriously after using experience with kubuntu i cant help but think that linux is the antithesis of a userfriendly OS :D
[19:58] <surunveri> which is equal to complaining but i just dont understand why this thing also had to be so hard when i cant even imagine that achieving a goal like "play audio file of type X" could ever become complicated using windows D:
[20:01] <surunveri> ok i got it playing now but not from rosegardern or amarok but isntead from terminal by typing timidity
[20:02] <surunveri> which is completely useless considering i have this html midifile library that you can open with browser and open each midi file from the library separately and if they cant be opened that way it's the same as nothing when considering teh purpose of the library ::::|
[20:03] <surunveri> so anyone got any idea how to make those midi files playable using 'open with program....' and selecting the correct program then?
[20:07] <ArGGu^^> surunveri http://theubuntunews.blogspot.com/2010/08/kmid2-alternative-to-vanbasco-on-ubuntu.html
[20:07] <surunveri> thx
[20:07] <ArGGu^^> I think you can configure kmid to use timidity
[20:08] <JohnFlux> Bah, someone help me please, my system is oh so screwed up :-/
[20:11] <Ahmuck> got a bit of a problem.  did a cdrom upgrade from 9.10 to 10.4 and now i have no desktop except notifications
[20:11] <Ahmuck> any idea how to bring my taskbar, menu, etc. back?
[20:12] <ArGGu^^> Ahmuck you could erase all you kde config
[20:12] <Ahmuck> what are the implications of this?
[20:12] <ArGGu^^> Not sure will it help
[20:12] <surunveri> kk thx arggu it works
[20:12] <Ahmuck> what do i loose by erasing kde config?
[20:12] <Ahmuck> logs?
[20:13] <Ahmuck> ArGGu^^: r u talking about .kde ?
[20:13] <ArGGu^^> yes
[20:13] <Ahmuck> k, i'll have to backup some apps, such as konverstation logs, etc.
[20:13] <Ahmuck> ls -a
[20:15] <ArGGu^^> Ahmuck you can also create new user and login with it
[20:15] <ArGGu^^> If it works then the problem is in config
[20:19] <Ahmuck> i dumped the config, but now i have nothing ...
[20:19] <Ahmuck> just a black screen
[20:19] <Ahmuck> desktop wallpaper is black
[20:20] <DaskreecH> Ahmuck: how did you do it? easiest way is open a konsole and type kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 5 &&  mv ~/.kde ~/kdeconfig.bak && plasma-desktop
[20:29] <Ahmuck> DaskreecH: rm -rf .kde
[20:29] <Ahmuck> but it's a mute point now
[20:29] <Ahmuck> i went to feel the heatsink, hit the thermaltake fan, and broke the proc fan.  now it's vibrating so bad that i'm going to have to order a new fan
[20:30] <DaskreecH> Ahmuck: Umm that has all your mail
[20:30] <DaskreecH> Probably should be a little less drastic in future :) renaming works
[20:33] <Kage> How do I get it so dragon can play DVDs?
[20:33] <Ahmuck> only if i used kmail, correct
[21:03] <KingRollo> gr33tZ
[21:16] <now1da13> Got Ubuntu 10.04 today, and like it so far.
[21:19] <Matt___> Good Afternoon
[21:20] <Matt___> I have a question about VNC Server if anyone can help
[21:23] <da186> Just ask the question , don't ask to ask a question.
[21:25] <MichealH> !ask | Matt___
[21:25] <MichealH> Toolate :/
[21:37] <KingRollo> Gr33tZ
[21:38] <KingRollo> can anyone help with my Kubuntu please... when I press Alt-Tab to switch between windows they are displayed in the left corner of the screen, not like they should be, centered...
[21:43] <KingRollo> ping
[21:55] <oracle> Are KDE3 apps still compliable?
[21:58] <KingRollo> mmh, the quit buck ;D
[21:59] <KingRollo> aiiiight
[21:59] <KingRollo> of 2 new horizons
[22:48] <bloodsmith> yo!
[22:48] <ran_> yo
[22:49] <bloodsmith> is there anyone that could reccomend some actual good games for kubuntu? I've got the standard card/minesweeper lot, but I want something to catch my attention
[22:49] <bloodsmith> got globulation2 as well...
[22:49] <bloodsmith> got globulation2 as well...
[22:50] <al_> osmos
[22:51] <apachelogger> bouncy ball ;)
[22:51]  * apachelogger is wondering if we actually have that in kubuntu
[22:51] <al_> Overgrowth or Penumbra
[22:53] <bloodsmith> i keep looking on google too, but the internet is a vast place, and you know how google is, just crams everything at you at once. on top of that, im not sure what kind of game i really want... thanks for the suggestions though, im checking them out now. keep them coming!
[22:55] <bloodsmith> al: downloadable through adept or package manager? or do I have to download off of sourceforge and set it up
[22:56] <apachelogger> oh, we doo have bouncy ball :D
[22:57] <apachelogger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/bouncyball.ogv
[23:09] <bloodsmith> question: should i download the .deb, .rpm, or .tar? I dont know diddly squat on how to install those anyways, tried and failed on other things before...
[23:11] <apachelogger> bloodsmith: deb
[23:11] <bloodsmith> ty
[23:11] <apachelogger> bloodsmith: if you click on the deb an application should popup that helps you with installing it
[23:11] <bloodsmith> hmm... lemme try, thanks
[23:13] <chrit_> hey
[23:13] <bloodsmith> ah, there it goes
[23:13] <bloodsmith> howey
[23:13] <bloodsmith> howdy***
[23:13] <chrit_> everithings good
[23:15] <bloodsmith> woOoOow... my computer sucks... la-a-a-a-gg-g-g-g-ging the game like hell...
[23:18] <bloodsmith> ok, lets try this then. I have a laptop, a satellite to be specific, and ive got kubuntu 10 running on it. now that thats out of the way, how about some games that wont eat performance like a fat kid on a happymeal. any suggestions now? lol
[23:20] <apachelogger> any good game will require good hardware ;)
[23:23] <bloodsmith> yes, this i know. I, however, am a cheap bastard, and dont have the money to blow anyways. one day I shall, but i need a new job, blah blah blah. in the meantime, i just want something to kill freetime. porn only does so much for so long, you see.
[23:23] <DarthFrog> Games of a previous generation will be less demanding of resources.
[23:24]  * DarthFrog recommends Frozen Bubble.
[23:25] <bloodsmith> indeed. again, my problem lies in the fact that im a console gamer for the most part. have that already, put in 10 hrs or so on gameplay, got bored with it
[23:26] <bloodsmith> hmm... wonder if it would be worth running wine to get ahold of some windows games... prolly not...
[23:27] <HeadshotDaniel> Hi! :D
[23:27] <DarthFrog> Civ 4 runs great under wine.
[23:27] <HeadshotDaniel> Really?
[23:27] <HeadshotDaniel> I haven't got many of my Windows Programs to work. :(
[23:28] <HeadshotDaniel> How can I get better... Ummm, theres really no word for this except to sound stupid...
[23:28] <HeadshotDaniel> How can I get more programs comaptible under Wine under Linux?
[23:29] <HeadshotDaniel> God dam.n it!
[23:29] <DarthFrog> !wine | HeadshotDaniel
[23:30] <HeadshotDaniel> Mac.
[23:33] <HeadshotDaniel> MAC
[23:34] <bloodsmith> ah, well thanks guys, im just gonna try World of Goo in wine and see if it will work with my comp. Appreciate the help


[13:03] <dballester> hi to all, i know that's off-topic, but i've severe problems and I hope that anyone can give me some starting point
[13:07] <dballester> I've lost a lvm/ext3 partition info ( and overwrotten metadata ). In fact, I must carve. By now i wanna know a way to know the physical begining of a file in ext3, to practice with dd and header/footer of this file. I want to try to acquire info about file header/footer of typo files in a good ext3 filesystem, once i'll have a list of this, apply them in the lost disc with scalpel/foremost
[13:08] <dballester> Any tip on how to know the position of a file inside an ext3 filesystem ( no inode info, the real offset from the begining ) TIA
[13:08] <dballester> By now i'm reading about dumpfs, file, etc...
[18:01]  * lamont grumbles about https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/192559
[18:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192559 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "alsa update breaks kernel ABI" [Critical,New]
[18:01] <lamont> I CAN HAZ SOUND NAO PLS?
[20:37] <benje_> hello
[20:39] <benje_> is it normal that failed with a z-com prism54usb [   47.178742] ieee80211_init: failed to initialize WME (err=-17) line 380 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56404/
[20:40] <benje_> is it depending the p54usb or the card , or ieee80211 only ?
[20:41] <benje_> the z-com is 0cde:0008


[12:52] <steffen_b> hi
[12:52] <steffen_b> i have a question about ubuntu's wait-for-state job
[12:53] <steffen_b> anyone ever used it ?
[12:55] <steffen_b> its starting or stopping the job it is waiting for - thats , lets say unexpected
[23:51] <wmp> hello, i have problem with upstart and shutdown my conteneir on vserver
[23:52] <wmp> http://wklej.org/id/782802/ - this problem


[05:10] <ljw-1204>                                                                                ...
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[15:20] <JackYu> happyaron, 国庆过得怎样? ypwong是不是还在休假？
[15:22] <happyaron> JackYu: 不太清楚他怎样，我挺好，你呢
[15:22] <happyaron> ？
[15:23] <JackYu> happyaron, 我也还不错，这次放假算是休息了两天，呵呵。
[15:23] <happyaron> :)
[15:24] <JackYu> happyaron, 那我等下发个邮件，明天下午的例会最好照常开。13.10 Release和Release Party还有很多事情。
[15:25] <happyaron> 嗯。
[15:32] <cheetah> Hi~
[15:33] <cheetah>  any guys?
[15:37] <JackYu> cheetah, hi
[15:39] <cheetah> are you an ubuntukylin user or a developer?
[15:40] <smartboyhw> cheetah, JackYu is the lead of UbuntuKylin-.-
[15:41] <cheetah> so scared...
[15:41] <JackYu> and also user/developer...
[15:41] <JackYu> cheetah, anything interesting?
[15:42] <cheetah> yeah
[15:44] <JackYu> go ahead, please.
[15:45] <cheetah> I want to know , how many projects are developed using qml/Qt5.x in UbuntuKylin.
[15:46] <JackYu> we use QT4.8
[15:47] <smartboyhw> JackYu, you should start the migration to Qt5 soon...
[15:47] <smartboyhw> You will want to keep up with Ubuntu's trend
[15:47] <cheetah> that sounds good.
[15:49] <JackYu> smartboyhw, we tried qt5, but got several problems. Maybe will upgrade to 5 in the next cycle.
[15:49] <smartboyhw> JackYu, oh?
[15:49] <smartboyhw> interesting
[15:50] <JackYu> :)
[15:51] <cheetah> I works on Qt5.1, develops some application on Mac OS X , Ubuntu, and Raspberry Pi (Raspbian), found out that develop GUI app so rapidly.
[15:53] <JackYu> cheetah, that's the truth.
[15:55] <cheetah> ;-)
[15:59] <cheetah> JackYu, Good Night! Don't stay up, All ofmy ex-colleagues. Healthy first~
[15:59] <JackYu> cheetah, thanks, good night!
[16:00] <cheetah> You knows me?
[16:01] <JackYu> maybe, or may not...
[16:02] <JackYu> You stay in Changsha?
[16:05] <cheetah> maybe, or may be not...


[00:03] <nhaines> Hi ianorlin.  Do you have admin access to the mailing list?  I need to know the current subscriber count.
[00:09] <ianorlin> nhaines: no only pleia2 and grantbow have admin access
[00:10] <nhaines> That seemed like such a good idea at the time.
[00:13] <ianorlin> well it was like that I assume before I even joined the team
[00:13] <ianorlin> archive.org ;)
[00:22] <nhaines> Doesn't do me much good for password-protected screens.  :)
[01:04] <ianorlin> nhaines: I know it doesn't but it shows that was grantbow and pleia2 since before I was on the team
[01:08] <nhaines> I'm not really concerned about it.  I just need the subscriber count for our reverification application.  pleia2's probably traveling.
[14:34] <pleia2> nhaines: I've gone ahead and updated the reverification page with the current mailing list count
[14:46] <pleia2> and we should chat about admin access to our mailing list, speaking as an overworked mailing list admin ;)
[19:53] <nhaines> pleia2: oh, thank you!  :)  Yup, we'll have a chat about that at your convenience.
[19:54] <nhaines> My master plan was to never do mailing list administration ever, but then I joined the LoCo Council and do it all the time.  :P
[19:57] <ianorlin> nhaines: because it is tedious?
[20:01] <nhaines> ianorlin: that, plus it's time-consuming, which is the more difficult bit.
[20:02] <ianorlin> yeah that makes sense I am thinking of putting my name forward to do that kind of stuff. At least it is not like being handed a clipboard and told to sign with a time limit would be worse for me
[20:07] <nhaines> Well, it's something that needs to be looked at every day or two, so every bit of help is appreciated.  :)
[20:17] <ianorlin> yes I understand


[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #57408 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[radeon]  enabling EXA results in black screen" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57408
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #56273 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "X extremely slow after resume on ATI mobility M4 with DRI (dup-of: 23513)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56273
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #55073 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Emacs window doesn't get redrawn when switching desktops" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/55073
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #130799 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Gutsy nvidia-glx no gpu or API mismatch (dup-of: 106217)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130799
[11:45] <tepsipakki> wow, we should be able to sync ati from experimental
[11:46] <tepsipakki> means dropping 105_fdo_att7409_bug5437.diff, which is a hacky patch just for some acer
[11:46] <tepsipakki> and upstream hates that patch
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #131276 in xorg-server (main) "X does not use preferred mode when connected to Samsung 225bw" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131276
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #127677 in xorg (main) "oversized fonts in compiz in gutsy on intel 945" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127677
[05:21] <bryce> tepsipakki: excellent
[06:14] <mvo> /home/egon/devel/compiz/compiz/src/display.c:2018: undefined reference to `XGetXCBConnection'
[06:14] <mvo>  ^--- I assume this is only availabe with a xcb enable xlib?
[06:40] <mvo> ^--- byce, tepsipakki ? any idea?
[06:50] <bryce> that sounds likely
[06:50] <bryce> here's my todo notes for xcb enablement:
[06:50] <bryce>    * libx11 with xcb reactivated
[06:50] <bryce>      - Problem is a static lib inside java
[06:50] <bryce>      - Current package in debian should patch java not to use
[06:50] <bryce>      - Needs a fix for
[06:50] <bryce>        https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11390
[06:50] <mvo> hrm, that is pretty bad is it makes it impossible currently to follow compiz
[06:50] <bryce>      - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libX11/
[06:50] <ubotu> Freedesktop bug 11390 in Lib/Xlib "Locking hooks not called from software built against non-XCB Xlib without XTHREADS" [Blocker,Resolved: notourbug]
[06:51] <mvo> bryce: how likely is that for gutsy? oh, and will we get the latest ati driver from experimental :) ? it contains some nice fixes for compiz
[06:52] <bryce> mvo, I can talk more about it with timo, however I had been planning on postponing it until gutsy+1 since I get the impression we'll need debian's involvement but I get the sense they won't be looking at it in the near term
[06:52] <bryce> yes, the ati driver should be here soon
[06:52] <mvo> I'm not adcoating that we need to enable it if it is a risk, its just unfortunate that compiz upstream is using it now and we are sort of excluded
[06:53] <bryce> tepsipakki said he'd upload it today.  Sounds like maybe we can just sync from debian
[06:53] <mvo> cool
[06:53] <bryce> I think it's going to be a moderately-high important task for gutsy+1
[06:53] <mvo> it seems that other distros (opensuse, fedora) ship with a xcb-xlib?
[06:53] <mvo> how do they manage?
[06:54] <jcristau> last i checked, fedora didn't use xlib-xcb
[06:54] <bryce> sorry, I'm being called to breakfast.  bbiab.
[06:54] <bryce> Btw, I put in the main inclusion request for displayconfig-gtk the other day :-)
[06:55] <bryce> I'm hoping it gets in soon, since that's a prereq for two specs
[06:57] <jcristau> oh, it does now
[06:57] <seb128> mvo: previous cycle when we had the xlib-xcb issues fedora was not using it, I've not looked recently though
[06:58] <jcristau> %changelog
[06:58] <jcristau> * Mon Jul 23 2007 Adam Jackson<EMAIL_ADDRESS>1.1.2-1
[06:58] <jcristau> - libX11 1.1.2.
[06:58] <jcristau> - Enable XCB for libX11 transport.
[06:58] <mvo> bryce: rock!
[06:58] <mvo> jcristau: thanks
[06:59] <mvo> seb128: right, as I said, I'm not advocating to enable it (yet ;) - just getting a picture of it
[07:00] <seb128> mvo: do we still want to track compiz git at this point? we are not too far from UVF now, and they just rolled a new stable, might make sense to just use it?
[07:00] <jcristau> i don't know when java is going to be fixed...
[07:01] <mvo> seb128: its a stable unstable ("Compiz 0.5 is the developmental version")
[07:01] <seb128> on an other hand we should better push those change this cycle that next one if they need some adjustments
[07:01] <mvo> seb128: currently we do not have any option, we need to stop tracking it
[07:17] <bryce> back


[01:48] <Guest0> hi all.  im having trouble with installing server to a multipath target. i'm using the "install disk-device/././." option, but not getting a multipath device in the partitioning step.. going to another tty and running multipath -l shows me "mpatha is being ignored". there's no xenial bugs regarding multipath on launchpad.  can anyone suggest the next step in diagnosing why mpatha is being ignored?
[02:18] <Fudge> does anyone know if xenial universe exists?
[02:20] <krytarik> Fudge: Of course.
[02:21] <Fudge> ok, just was getting a sum mismatch on use.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:30] <krytarik> Fudge: Try again later, or try a different mirror.
[02:32] <Pwnna> is there any way to get openjdk7 back in 16.04?
[02:34] <EOBeav> I'm sure there will be a ppa to get it
[02:39] <Pwnna> i guess i can make that ppa >_>
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> kernel freeze today
[05:59] <PETsounds> Hai, any reason why Xenial are not using Ffmpeg 3 ?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> !info ffmpeg xenial
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> !latest | PETsounds
[06:05] <dax> because ffmpeg 3 came out on February 15th, which is pretty late in the release cycle to be pulling in new major versions of widely-used packages, i expect
[06:22] <ladyTalus> Regards.
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: few weeks indeed
[06:23] <ladyTalus> All the best coders are hard at work right around the clock right now.
[06:23] <ladyTalus> It should be good.
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: its already good
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> running daily here pretty stable
[06:24] <ladyTalus> I've chosen to stick with 15.10 until doing a full upgrade.
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-64bit-Development-branch-598369242
[06:24] <ladyTalus> That does look impressive.
[06:25] <ladyTalus> I always encourage the coders to get the first impression right. Give the user a good "wow" moment when they enter the fold.
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-64bit-Development-branch-601374206
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> and here my netbook
[06:28] <ladyTalus> that's unity?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> yep
[06:29] <ladyTalus> the netbook has no problem with it?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: with a tweaked launcher to bottom
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: 4gig ram and samsung 850 pro ssd inside, unity is like a rocket :p
[06:30] <ladyTalus> which cpu?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> 6sec boot, 3 sec halt
[06:31] <ladyTalus> which CPU?
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: amd ft1
[06:32] <ladyTalus> single thread passmark = ?
[06:33] <ladyTalus> my mini pc handles like a dream but my single thread passmark is over 1000.
[06:33] <ladyTalus> however the cpu is not so overpowered that i feel as though i am never pushing it.
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15664405/
[06:35] <ladyTalus> what do you call the cpu when you buy it?
[06:35] <ladyTalus> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+E-300+APU
[06:35] <ladyTalus> yours is only 1GHz.
[06:35] <ladyTalus> that there is 1.3.
[06:36] <ladyTalus> But look how low the single thread is even at 300MHz more.
[06:36] <ladyTalus> 342 single thread??
[06:36] <ladyTalus> when you check for software updates how long does it take to complete?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: that depends how big the updates are
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: on ssd everything goes fsater
[06:37] <ladyTalus> but doesn't anything meaningful on that PC lag badly?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> faster
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> nop
[06:37] <ladyTalus> what if you use something like veracrypt? It must take 5 minutes just to mount a container.
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: its a netbook... i dont use heavy works on it
[06:38] <ladyTalus> i've never seen someone satisfied with a CPU with a single thread score of less than 350.
[06:38] <ladyTalus> for reference, the broadwell celeron has a single thread of 800 or so.
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> you focus too much on cpu
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> i rather have an overal smooth system
[06:39] <ladyTalus> i browse with a dual core 1.9GHz and when i look at system monitor i see both cores getting a good workout
[06:39] <ladyTalus> just browsing around the web.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: how fast does your pc unpack a 4gig rar?
[06:42] <ladyTalus> Never yet tried. I have a speedy mSATA and 8GB of RAM.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: wich hd brand?
[06:43] <ladyTalus> But I don't feel like my system is overpowered except for having at least 2GB more RAM than I ever need.
[06:43] <ladyTalus> Kingston.
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ssd?
[06:43] <ladyTalus> Yes. It's an mSATA. I'll show you.
[06:43] <ladyTalus> http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Notebooks-Ultrabooks-SMS200S3-60G/dp/B00COFMPAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460011420&sr=8-1&keywords=kingston+msata+60gb
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> nice
[06:45] <ladyTalus> It's an impressive piece of technology and only $40 now.
[06:45] <ladyTalus> For an extra 60GB you can get the 120GB for only $52.
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> i payed 94 for my samsung pro 850 128gig
[06:46] <ladyTalus> how long ago?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> yesterday
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> 94 euro that is
[06:47] <ladyTalus> Really??
[06:47] <ladyTalus> You bought it yesterday?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> yep
[06:47] <ladyTalus> Your netbook was bought yesterday?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> plugged my evo in my desktop
[06:47] <ladyTalus> or upgraded yesterday?
[06:47] <ladyTalus> Oh.
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> upgraded
[06:47] <ladyTalus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDt42Vs-teI&list=PLhj6R3nBEgyIdyIVKV2XDfDUdyhcWsWpw&index=11&nohtml5=False
[06:48] <ladyTalus> Listen here and tell me how that sounds on your headphones or speakers.
[06:48] <ladyTalus> I just upgraded my sound card by plugging in a USB device as shown here:
[06:48] <ladyTalus> http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UCA202-Audio-Interface/dp/B000KW2YEI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460011712&sr=8-1&keywords=behringer+usb+sound
[06:48] <ladyTalus> Now my sound settings as configured for Digital Stereo Out.
[06:49] <ladyTalus> The sound quality is an outstanding and a noticeable improvement from using the sound card built in my PC.
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: perhaps we should move this to #ubuntu-discuss, keep the room free for xenial issues :p
[07:24] <Light_> How is the beta looking is it looking like the LTS release will be good or bad?
[08:04] <Light_> Can you download a beta or alpha of 16.04?
[08:26] <server_> Hello. Kernel update linux-image-4.4.0-16-generic broke my DELL Inspiron 7599. VLC stopped working and VPN stopped working, also on reboot only got black screen.  I did apt-get purge of that kernel but VLC and vpn are still not working.  How can I fix?  I tried to reinstall linux-image-4.4.0-14-generic in case that would fix things but it could not be reinstalled.
[08:29] <server_> DELL Inspiron has skylake and nvidia geforce gtx.
[08:39] <dioioib> I just had a crash trying to install 16.04 beta 2. Wouldn't figure a crash before I even started using 16.04 beta.
[09:15] <tracker9> hello. Could u tell me which server of x11 is present in 16.04?
[09:19] <sgbirch> Where is the best place to get a docker container with ubuntu 16.04 installed? ubuntu:16.04 has no networking installed
[09:24] <server_> X.Org X Server 1.17.3
[09:24] <server_> Release Date: 2015-10-26
[09:24] <server_> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[09:25] <server_> sgbirch, what do you mean no networking installed?
[09:26] <sgbirch> root@fbc5ea8d571f:/usr/bin# ifconfig
[09:26] <sgbirch> bash: ifconfig: command not found
[09:26] <TJ-> sgbirch: "ip addr show"
[09:27] <sgbirch> root@02b58caaaff9:/# ip addr show
[09:27] <sgbirch> bash: ip: command not found
[09:27] <sgbirch> I created the container like this: docker run -ti ubuntu:16.04 /bin/bash
[09:29] <tracker9> server_, that's kinda old
[09:29] <TJ-> sgbirch: is the PATH set as you'd expect; are the packages installed (net-tools, iproute2) ?
[09:31] <sgbirch> The path looks good, net-tools and iproute2 are both installed
[09:31] <sgbirch> oh .. hang on, I was on trusty and not in a container .. one set
[09:32] <sgbirch> correction! the PATH is correct, net-tools and iproute2 are not installed
[09:43] <bittin-> Ubuntu and Debian isos updated at work :)
[09:46] <bittin-> now waiting for the 16.04 isos :)
[09:49] <server_> tracker9, really?  This is from an beta 2 iso I installed a week ago.
[09:50] <server_> I fixed the vlc... the issue was needing to switch to nvidia chips using prime-select nvidia.
[09:54] <tracker9> server_, how could i check version bundled in daily ISO?
[09:55] <server_> From a terminal, I typed:  startx --version
[09:55] <server_> it gave the versions at the start.  I don't know how to check the daily ISO builds for what is included.
[09:55] <server_> (never new there were daily isos)
[09:59] <TJ-> sgbirch: it looks like the -core builds stopped at end of March, and also, that the 16.04 builds do not contain a lot of packages that the 14.04, etc., images do contain (been looking at the manifests on partner-images.canonical.com)
[10:11] <tracker6> server_, next time warn that startx even with -version will launch another xsession pls
[10:11] <tracker6> its 1.18.1 in daily iso
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> new kernel out
[10:22] <server_> tracker6, sorry about that.  Didn't think it was important since it doesn't kill the active X server. :(  I will warn next time.
[10:22] <server_> !info linux-image-generic
[10:38] <sgbirch> TJ-: Is there anything that can be done about it?
[10:38] <TJ-> sgbirch: I've just reported bug 1567349
[10:39] <sgbirch> thank you .. is there anything I can do to help?
[10:40] <TJ-> sgbirch: I suspect it is intended from what I found
[10:41] <sgbirch> TJ-: why would they want to do that?
[10:44] <TJ-> sgbirch: I don't know, but you'll see the images on partner-images.canonical.com (where the Docker images are) are different to those (that include the network packages) on cloud-images.ubuntu.com, so I'd recommend you manually fetch the 16.04 image from there
[10:49] <sgbirch> TJ-: I wonder if the objective is to encourage the use of LXD instead of docker
[10:50] <server_> GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[10:50] <sgbirch> TJ-: I know they are different animals, but many people (myself included) will be making that decision. I can use either for my current project.
[10:50] <server_> I get the above message, after I installed linux-image-4.4.0-16-generic.
[10:51] <TJ-> sgbirch: I wondered about the images having 'core' in their titles. Possibly its the absolute minimum image without an assumption of networking being required.
[10:54] <sgbirch> TJ-: hmmm .. that would make more sense than my conspiracy theory :-)
[10:57] <TJ-> sgbirch: but it does seem a bit counter when they're talked about as 'cloud' images
[10:58] <TJ-> sgbirch: rather like sending the eunuchs into the harem and expecting the pitter-patter of tiny feet in 9 months time :)
[10:58] <sgbirch> TJ-: lmao - perfect analogy
[10:59] <sgbirch> TJ-: yeah, a cloud image with no networking is pretty strange
[11:02] <TJ-> Are the images pre-configured to do IPv6 RA and SLAAC? I recall some talk of LX{C,D} images going IPv6 only; this may be related
[11:02] <TJ-> sgbirch: if you're expecting IPv4 that may well explain it
[11:03] <sgbirch> TJ-: how can I check?
[11:05] <sgbirch> TJ-: ahh .. apt-get update works .. I had just *assumed* it had no networking
[11:05] <sgbirch> TJ-: I think you nailed it, ipv6 only installed in the container
[11:06] <sgbirch> TJ-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1525420
[11:08] <TJ-> sgbirch: I don't think that bug report applies at all; that's for the ISO server install images, for bare hardware
[11:08] <sgbirch> TJ-: Oh yes, sorry
[11:09] <TJ-> I recall the discussion about the LXD/IPv6 only stuff in one of the ubuntu developer channels some time ago, I'll see if I can find it in my logs
[11:12] <TJ-> here we go. this was in the context of LXD discussions about DHCP, dnsmasq, and lxc vs lxd
[11:12] <TJ-> 2016-03-21 20:52:03     infinity        stgraber: How do guests get IPv4 connectivity?
[11:12] <TJ-> 2016-03-21 20:52:20     stgraber        infinity: the guest won't have any connectivity by default except http through a minimal proxy
[11:13] <TJ-> sgbirch: I'm guessing those -core images implement that... although that doesn't explain why the -core images going back to 15.04 also don't have those network packages, unless this was a build-service change that affects all release images built since
[11:13] <sgbirch> TJ-: yes
[11:14] <sgbirch> TJ-: it still seems like a pretty bad thing to do :-( What is the answer to the question about getting IPv4 connectivity?
[11:15] <sgbirch> TJ-: I am sure I am not the last person who will stare blankly in dispair at what appears to be a completely broken container!
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:15] <TJ-> sgbirch: I'm not clear on that; these images aren't strictly Ubuntu - these are hosted on Canonical's site so it's different
[11:16] <TJ-> sgbirch: but you can see the Vivid/15.04 manifest also shows it missing those packages. Today's Trusty and Utopic builds do have the packages. https://partner-images.canonical.com/core/vivid/current/ubuntu-vivid-core-cloudimg-amd64.manifest
[11:17] <TJ-> sgbirch: and those 15.04 package build dates are January, so it's not something recent
[11:18] <sgbirch> TJ-: given that it has been this way for a while it is strange that google didn’t find any discussion on it. I must not have found the right search terms
[11:20] <TJ-> sgbirch: you're not alone; my search-fu is usually HOT but I've not found anything. On a side-note I did find this, which might explain *how* the images are created http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/datasources.html#no-cloud
[11:24] <sjoshi> Hello, I am not able to install unity8 on ubuntu16.04 beta2
[11:24] <sjoshi> its day Unable to locate package
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> !unity8 | sjoshi
[11:24] <sjoshi> say*
[11:25] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: thanks! But as soon as I run this command "sudo apt install unity8-desktop-session-mir"
[11:25] <sjoshi> its say Unable to locate package
[11:25] <sjoshi> I am installing it into a pendrive to see the compatability of my hardware
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: apt-cache shows me unity8-desktop-session-mir - Unity8 desktop session for Mir
[11:26] <lotuspsychje>  correctly
[11:27] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: Let me try again
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: you mean your on the live mode right now?
[11:28] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: No I am not
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: explain the pendrive part?
[11:29] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: I have downloaded Ubuntu16.04 and created a live USB of it
[11:30] <sjoshi> Now I am trying to install unity8 desktop on it
[11:31] <sjoshi> Right now, I am on Xubuntu15.10
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> !info unity8-desktop-session-mir wily
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: uname -a plz?
[11:34] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: I dont wanna experiment with my office laptop installation :)
[11:34] <sjoshi> Linux shupkarn 4.2.0-35-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 15 22:15:45 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: but im not sure you can install unity8 on live, as you need logout/login to enter unity8
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: physical install is recommended
[11:35] <sjoshi> ahh.. ok
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: try unity8 on your 15.10? dont like= purge?
[11:36] <sjoshi> I can give it a shot on my home laptop.. it has Xubuntu15.10 but right its having h/w issue
[11:36] <sjoshi> now its*
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> oh wait, its xubuntu not sure how unity8 will react on that
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> didnt test myself yet
[11:37] <sjoshi> yeah, thats also a point to be noted :P
[11:37] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: also I have made persistence live usb, still it will not work?
[11:38] <sjoshi> there is a logout option in Live USB i guess
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: didnt test either, try it perhaps
[11:38] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: sure :)
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: just keep in mind, usb can bottleneck your Os
[11:39] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: agree! I am js going to check hardware compatability.. with new Ubuntu + Unity(mainly display, sound and network)
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: i tested unity8 on my 16.04 desktop, and running like a charm
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: with basic features, more to come @ final
[11:40] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: sounds good!
[11:41] <sjoshi> yah!
[11:42] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: which brand of laptop you have?
[11:42] <sjoshi> for me: office: Lenovo and home:Dell
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: acer aspire netbook
[11:42] <sjoshi> hmm ok
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-64bit-Development-branch-601374206
[11:44] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: how was the graphic performance of Unity8? light on CPU or ..?
[11:44] <sjoshi> lotuspsychje: nice wallpaper..! :)
[11:45] <sjoshi> looks cool
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> tnx :p
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> sjoshi: same feeling as unity7 for me
[11:45] <sjoshi> ok
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[12:09] <sgbirch> TJ-: I made some progress .. thank you for your help. It seems that apt-get install net-tools solves the problem
[12:12] <BluesKaj> sgbirch, odd that wasn't installed by default...
[12:19] <TJ-> sgbirch: so, that infers there was network connectivity already!
[12:20] <sgbirch> TJ-: yes .. it was just no tools installed, that fooled me
[12:20] <TJ-> sgbirch: so presumably the images are configured to auto-configure, so to speak. For IPv4 that'd mean DHCP enabled, via either ifupdown or NetworkManager, or if IPv6 then RA and SLAAC should be sufficient
[12:20] <TJ-> sgbirch: did you check /etc/network/interfaces to see if it was pre-configured?
[12:40] <sgbirch> TJ-: I just checked.  /etc/network is not present but there is a file called /etc/networks which contains one line:
[12:40] <sgbirch> # symbolic names for networks, see networks(5) for more information
[12:40] <sgbirch> link-local <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:40] <sgbirch> I lied .. two lines
[13:21] <jonathan_zz> I currently have "timidity" slowing down my system considerable. I have no idea what started it: "timidity 27699 83.8  0.1 127488  4504 ?        RL   apr04 3797:23 /usr/bin/timidity -Os -iAD"  ---> taking about 100% (of one core, supposedly). The other core is 40% idle.  How do I discover what process started it?
[13:31] <jonathan_zz> apparently it just gets started at boot
[13:44] <asper> hi there. it seems that the php5-common package is no longer in the xenial sources. was is renamed or is it simply gone?
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> asper: could it be php7 now on xenial?
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> !info php7-common
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> !info php7
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> !find php7
[13:46] <pcn> That probably makes the world a better place
[13:46] <asper> ahh thanks!
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> php7.0-common - documentation, examples and common module for PHP
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> asper: cant find a php5 on xenial neither on apt-cache
[13:47] <teward> lotuspsychje: asper: php5 is gone in Xenial, replaced with php7.0
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> teward: ok thank you
[13:48] <teward> lotuspsychje: asper: you'll need to use ppa:ondrej/php and install php5.6 or w/e it is from there
[13:48] <teward> and then remove php7.0 from the repositories on Xenial
[13:48] <teward> (that's Ondrej's coinstallable PHP versions PPA)
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> teward: but not recommended i suppose?
[13:49] <teward> !ppa
[13:49] <teward> obligatory notice is obligatory
[13:49] <asper> thanks. we will upgrade to 7.0
[13:49] <teward> lotuspsychje: There are things which don't support php7.0 - only way to get php5.6 will be to use the PPA< but you lose all other support
[13:49] <teward> (for the package)
[13:50] <teward> lotuspsychje: so no, not supported, not really recommended, I think 5.6 is EOLing anyways, but don't quote me on that
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> teward: yeah downgrading packages, doesnt sound like wise decision
[13:50] <teward> lotuspsychje: it's not a downgrade
[13:50] <teward> it's a separate package?
[13:51] <teward> they're *coinstallable*
[13:51] <teward> they run separately
[13:51] <teward> still a much better idea to modernize your site code to php7.0 which is reportedly much faster
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> right, but lets say a security hole reaches into 5.6, the user wont get official upsate/support
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> update
[13:51] <teward> lotuspsychje: right, that's why I still don't recommend the PPA, though AFAIK, Ondrej keeps that PPA updated...
[13:52] <teward> but yes, not officially supported
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> ok
[13:52] <teward> lotuspsychje: FYI, the !ppa factoid I just posted?  Still applies.
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> yep
[13:52] <teward> (you can answer your own question you just asked there by reading the factoid)
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> upp: you can already help test beta2 or daily
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> upp: but for daily use its recommended to wait until final
[14:50] <teward> ^
[14:50] <upp> how can i help?
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> upp: finding bugs, testing packages,etc
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> upp: the sky is the limit and helps the community
[14:51] <upp> i have to read first what daily is ( mean)
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> upp: the daily images are in topic
[14:54] <upp> lotuspsychje: the daily build change every day?
[14:54] <teward> upp: the daily build is a respin of the ISO daily
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> upp: if you install daily, you will receive the updates also, and be able to upgrade to final
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !final | upp
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> upp: if you accept the fact your system 'could' break till final in this stage
[14:55] <upp> ohh cool
[14:55] <upp> i understand now
[14:56] <upp> now it's only my personal computer now, so not so important
[14:56] <upp> but nice to know such thing exist
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> upp: ok great!
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> upp: i got it installed both on desktop + netbook working like a rocket
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> nothing broken yet
[14:57] <upp> ^^cool
[14:57] <teward> install once, and then `apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade` daily and you'll be fine
[14:57] <teward> or, reinstall the ISO daily for daily testing
[15:00] <upp> tewar: or, reinstall the ISO daily for daily testing -> that's only if i want to test something in daily?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> teward: ^
[15:04] <upp> if i install daily today, and tomorrow i run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade i get the new daily?
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> upp: daily means the most up to date packages inserted
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> upp: so if you install a daily, you will receive latest updates via apt-get also
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> upp: the daily just follows the progress
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> upp: if your system breaks somehow, and you reinstall daily iso, your back in business
[15:08] <upp> thanks for answer, i thought it a daily new image because the one i download now is released today :-)
[15:08] <upp> now i understand very well
[15:08] <upp> thank you so much
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> upp: good luck and welcome to the ubuntu (xenial) experience
[15:09] <upp> i will try to find time to start developing for ubuntu ;-)
[15:09] <upp> it will be a pleasure for me
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | upp thank you
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> upp: the #ubuntu-touch guys can always need a help aswell
[15:11] <upp> i will try my best, but first i have to understand more
[15:16] <teward> lotuspsychje_: I was pinged?
[15:16] <teward> oh
[15:16] <lotuspsychje_> upp: wanted to know more on daily
[17:56] <devslash> is Ubuntu 16.04 locked from any new changes between now and when it will be released later this month ?
[17:58] <dax> The 16.04 release schedule is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule . Most stuff is frozen for release by now, but there's still polishing and bugfixing going on.
[17:58] <devslash> is anyone here ?
[17:58] <dax> So, it's not stable/unchanging, but it is getting there.
[17:58] <devslash> ok thanks
[17:59] <dax> If you're asking because you want to upgrade important stuff, the answer would still be "no that's a terrible idea"
[17:59] <dax> we've had stuff come up *very* late in the cycle that needed fixing before, the next couple of weeks are not just a formality
[18:00] <dax> (personally, the Ubuntu servers I have at work are on 14.04 and won't be going to 16.04 until 16.04.1, assuming we decide to upgrade them)
[18:01] <dax> (for desktop users on 14.04, I'd probably wait until a week after release, or 16.04.1, depending on risk aversion)
[18:20] <ratrace> Hello. Trying out 16.04. Previously (in 15.10 eg.) I could alt-tab between different program windows and alt-` between windows of the same program. This latter behavior is absent in 16.04. Is this a bug?
[18:25] <nacc> ratrace: i think it got fixed this AM
[18:25] <nacc> ratrace: trying to find you a bug #
[18:26] <ratrace> nacc: it's okay if it's a bug. I Was afraid it's a "feature" of the so called "evolving" and "progressing" GNOME... :)
[18:26] <nacc> ratrace: no, i believe it was an xorg issue, actually, fixed now
[18:26] <ratrace> great, thanks for confirming and checking!
[18:27] <nacc> ratrace: yeah, that's based purely on my IRC logs mind you :)
[18:27] <ratrace> :)
[20:18] <strahl> Hi, will Ubuntu 16.04 include a working version of mir? (able to support 3d games)
[20:18] <k1l_> !unity8
[20:19] <k1l_> strahl: neither wayland nor mir are productionready for desktops. they just gained first support by nvidia, for example.
[20:19] <k1l_> nvidia just released a driver with _first_ support for walynad and mir.
[20:19] <strahl> k1l_ if my graphics card is Nvidia, should it work?
[20:20] <k1l_> you need to get that driver from the nvidia website. and i think there is only the lxc version of unity8 and mir available now.
[20:21] <strahl> k1l_ ok. And nouveau?
[20:21] <strahl> k1l_ should it work just like in X windows?
[20:21] <k1l_> no
[20:22] <k1l_> its still in development, as said above.
[20:22] <strahl> k1l_ ok, thank you for the information!
[20:23] <k1l_> you could ask in #ubuntu-mir for the exact state. but i doubt they will say "its just like x works now"
[20:23] <strahl> k1l_ ok, thank you! :)
[20:26] <devslash> how do I move the unity taskbar in 16.04 ?
[20:30] <k1l_> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher launcher-position Bottom
[20:31] <k1l_> devslash: ^
[20:31] <devslash> I thought that it was built into the GUI in 16.04 but you could do that command in older versions of ubuntu
[20:34] <k1l_> no
[20:35] <k1l_> the patch to enable it was just included into the unity version that is shipped with 16.04. you cant do that on older ubuntus without using a pathced version or patch it manually
[20:42] <devslash>  can you change Bottom to any direction like Top or Right ?
[20:43] <k1l> try it
[20:43] <k1l> i only know of Bottom and Left
[20:44] <devslash> so it doesnt go into effect until you restart X....
[20:45] <devslash> nope
[20:45] <devslash> it only allows for Top and Left
[20:47] <k1l> not Top, Bottom
[20:47] <devslash> err sorry
[20:47] <devslash> bottom and left
[20:47] <devslash> not top or right
[20:48] <devslash> so what do you need to do to install this patch in 15.10
[20:48] <devslash> I like the launcher at the bottom a little better
[20:48] <k1l> build unity yourself  with that patch included
[20:49] <devslash> ahh... sounds a little compalicated
[20:49] <devslash> sudo killall Xorg
[20:51] <devslash> I heard about a programmer who tried to end it all by rm -rf self...


[15:30] <AndrewMcC> airurando: Good news, looks like my wife is pushing the first Ubuntu server into work (almost an entirely pure Windows shop until now).
[17:37] <czajkowski> AndrewMcC: yay
[17:43] <zmoylan-hp> you sneak one in and they're great fecking wedges taking over small job after small job
[19:42] <airurando> AndrewMcC: good news indeed!
[21:22] <AndrewMcC> It's a government department, too. Hopefully it goes smoothly.
[22:05] <airurando> I hope so.


[02:43] <klepas> moin
[09:41] <joejaxx> Good Afternoon All
[11:37] <knovak> Just a question, who does the startup/shutdown sounds for Ubuntu? Reason I ask is I'm an aspiring composer and I'm wondering if I could contribute that way
[11:50] <elkbuntu> knovak, cbx33
[11:55] <knovak> cbx33 = Pete Savage correct
[12:07] <elkbuntu> knovak, yes
[12:10] <elkbuntu> knovak, the feisty sounds are still in early development from what he showed me the other day
[12:10] <elkbuntu> so there might be room for contrib :)
[12:10] <knovak> ok -- does he come on this IRC channel much?
[12:11] <elkbuntu> knovak, not that i am aware of. not sure which are his usual haunts. however you can easily check /whois and /ns info cbx33 to find when he is on, and just /msg him when you spot him
[12:11] <knovak> alrighty, thanks a bunch