[05:19] <mrunagi> lol i just push the power button and alt + t
[05:19] <mrunagi> does that make me less l337
[05:19] <spyd3r> ..................
[05:19] <mrunagi> in irssi now spyder?
[05:19] <spyd3r> yes...........
[05:19] <mrunagi> yay!
[05:19] <stansmith> spyd3r, LOL
[05:19] <mrunagi> ok great
[05:19] <spyd3r> dont laugh dude im pissed as hell................
[05:20] <mrunagi> why?
[05:20] <stansmith> your learning how to use irssi!
[05:20] <mrunagi> because your xorg is broken?
[05:20] <spyd3r> i just want it to work
[05:20] <mrunagi> linux never JUST works my man
[05:20] <mrunagi> thats windows mindset
[05:20] <mrunagi> theres a tradeoff for everything
[05:20] <mrunagi> anyway........alt + right arrow will take you to another vritual terminal
[05:20] <mrunagi> from there alt + left brings you back to irssi
[05:21] <mrunagi> still with me?
[05:21] <spyd3r> yea
[05:21] <stansmith> lol
[05:21] <stansmith> omg sorry
[05:21] <mrunagi> ok go to another virtual terminal and type in sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:21] <mrunagi> tell me what it says
[05:21] <spyd3r> ok holod on
[05:21] <mrunagi> log in first of course
[05:22] <mrunagi> i could be playing nexius right now
[05:22] <mrunagi> lol
[05:22] <mrunagi> i havent played open arena all that much
[05:22] <stansmith> i should be asleep
[05:23] <mrunagi> why arent u
[05:23] <spyd3r> nothing
[05:23] <spyd3r> it didnt say anything
[05:23] <stansmith> i <3 the linux
[05:24] <mrunagi> good
[05:24] <spyd3r> good?
[05:24] <mrunagi> yea
[05:24] <michael__> could anyone out there help me with mencoder?
[05:24] <mrunagi> means it completed successfully
[05:24] <mrunagi> now type sudo killall -HUP kdm
[05:24] <spyd3r> ok now what?
[05:24] <mrunagi> should start x
[05:25] <mrunagi> must have worked
[05:26] <spyd3r_> ok im back on desktop
[05:26] <mrunagi> sweet
[05:26] <spyd3r_> but i have a question
[05:26] <mrunagi> i dunno what you did to break it
[05:26] <mrunagi> whats up
[05:26] <spyd3r_> i got a window
[05:26] <spyd3r_> it says
[05:26] <spyd3r_> information - kde sudo
[05:26] <spyd3r_> no command arguments supplied
[05:26] <mrunagi> well u get that when you type kdesudo and nothing else
[05:27] <mrunagi> why youre getting it now........dunno........its cool.........unless it keeps happening
[05:27] <spyd3r_> usage: kdesudo {-u <runas>} <command>
[05:27] <spyd3r_> kdesudo will now exit
[05:27] <mrunagi> lol thats borderline flooding ;)
[05:27] <spyd3r_> 3rd time so far
[05:27] <mrunagi> sounds to me like for some reason you have kdesudo running at startup
[05:28] <spyd3r_> it was a frsh install happened after i rebooted after i allowed restricted drivers
[05:28] <mrunagi> make another user log in and see if it does it
[05:28] <spyd3r_> remember that pass thingy i mentioned earlier
[05:28] <spyd3r_> it happened again
[05:29] <spyd3r_> im fine lets just continue
[05:29] <spyd3r_> i want this done
[05:29] <spyd3r_> nvm the resolution
[05:29] <spyd3r_> ill figure it out some other time
[05:29] <mrunagi> you could dpkg reconfigure and add the resolution you want
[05:29] <spyd3r_> ok how do i do that
[05:29] <mrunagi> !x
[05:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:30] <mrunagi> theres ur link to help resolution
[05:30] <spyd3r_> ok how do i get the cube effect and fusion stuff to work like beryl
[05:30] <mrunagi> !compiz
[05:30] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:31] <spyd3r_> so u wont guide me anymore?
[05:31] <spyd3r_> lol
[05:31] <mrunagi> anything i guide you with is going to be in that link
[05:31] <spyd3r_> ok so just do everything those say right?
[05:31] <mrunagi> basically
[05:31] <spyd3r_> ok
[05:31] <spyd3r_> well
[05:32] <spyd3r_> do you use yahoo mrunagi?
[05:32] <mrunagi> yea
[05:32] <spyd3r_> whats your yahoo name?
[05:32] <mrunagi> mrunagi808
[05:33] <spyd3r_> ok thaNX MAN
[05:33] <spyd3r_> IM GOING TO GO FOR NOW
[05:33] <spyd3r_> ILL LET U KNOW HOW IT ALL GOES
[05:33] <mrunagi> ttyl
[05:33] <spyd3r_> oops sorry for caps
[05:33] <spyd3r_> bye
[05:43] <spyd3r_> hey mrunagi?
[05:44] <mrunagi> yea
[05:44] <spyd3r_> well i got the resolution down
[05:44] <mrunagi> good
[05:44] <spyd3r_> but it had me restart the x server during the compiz fusion thing
[05:44] <spyd3r_> well i did and it reset my visuals
[05:44] <spyd3r_> any way to make it stick?
[05:44] <mrunagi> how did u get the resolution down
[05:45] <spyd3r_> and i need the page again for resolution
[05:45] <spyd3r_> through run command
[05:45] <spyd3r_> by loading up the nvidia driver proggy
[05:45] <mrunagi> do it again?
[05:45] <spyd3r_> no i need that page again
[05:47] <spyd3r_> and while trying to get the compiz-fusion to work i had some snags
[05:47] <mrunagi> lol then type the trigger
[05:47] <mrunagi> !compiz
[05:47] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:47] <spyd3r_> not that one the resolution page
[05:48] <mrunagi> !resolution | spyd3r_
[05:48] <ubotu> spyd3r_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:48] <spyd3r_> ok so should i go to the compiz channel for help with that?
[05:48] <spyd3r_> or can you help me?
[05:48] <mrunagi> im too tired man
[05:48] <spyd3r_> ok
[05:49] <spyd3r_> well thanx again
[05:49] <mrunagi> np
[06:16] <spyd3r_> hello can someone help me to get the codes for compiz-fusion?
[06:36] <huyi> hi, i'm using kubuntu gutsy, i tried krecordmydesktop to record my desktop, but why didn't it record the background song i played?
[06:44] <huyi> excuse me?
[06:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok, I got my wireless card to be detected but not my audio.
[06:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> I open my kmixer window and don't have an audio device.
[06:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> my audio card is an integrated 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[06:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> how can I activate it?
[06:55] <mkquist> gundam_rx78nt1: might take a look see here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[06:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> brb
[07:01] <chad_> hello
[07:02] <huyi> hi, i'm using kubuntu gutsy, i tried krecordmydesktop to record my desktop, but why didn't it record the background song i played?
[07:13] <stdin> huyi: because it doesn't record sound, just the desktop
[07:13] <needhelp> hi, how to disable SKIM from starting in my kubuntu?
[07:23] <amed> hola
[07:23] <amed> ke hay amigos
[07:25] <needhelp> hi, how to disable SKIM from starting in my kubuntu?
[07:36] <crackhead100> hi i was using open office. i clicked the menu drop down menu, and my x froze -- or the kernel froze. im not sure. i can move the mouse, but it sort of jitters as it moves. i can't access anything else. however, i can access the kernel from this second computer remotely logged in... help???? i want to try to get the computer working again without restarting the whole box, if possible..
[07:37] <crackhead100> is anyone there who can help???
[07:38] <ere4si> is anything using the cpu ?crackhead100
[07:38] <crackhead100> how can i check? i think there are a list of processes running.. i tried manually killing the x server from the remote login commandline, but it won't die..
[07:39] <ere4si> crackhead100, type     top     in the terminal - press   k   - then enter the pid for x
[07:39] <crackhead100> one sec
[07:40] <crackhead100> yeah it looks like xorg is using 95% of cpu
[07:40] <crackhead100> should i kill it? or can i pause it somehow?
[07:41] <crackhead100> ?
[07:41] <ere4si> I'd kill it then type startx
[07:42] <crackhead100> is there any way to save the xsession, the windows open, so that i can have them restart upon the restart of startx?
[07:42] <ere4si> from the commandline? - that I don't know...
[07:43] <crackhead100> it said kill with signal 15.. then i hit enter.. then it said kill failed.. operation not permitted... ???
[07:43] <crackhead100> did i have to type yes when it said "kill with sig 15"?
[07:43] <ere4si> try this - press   q  to stop top - then type    sudo top     and retry
[07:45] <crackhead100> it didn't give an error, but top still shows xorg running...???
[07:46] <ere4si> all I can suggest is a reboot
[07:47] <ere4si> sudo shutdown -r now    for the command
[07:47] <crackhead100> anyone else know how to stop/kill/restart X without rebooting the whole machine, if top, kill pid doesn't kill it?
[07:48] <crackhead100> ere4si: this keeps happening. everytime i use open office, and i use the mouse to click the topline menu dropdown, it freezes up the xorg, and i have to restart.. i tried searching for why this happens, but i can't find it. do you, or could you find out anything? is this common??
[07:49] <ere4si> never heard of it... maybe you could remove - reinstall oo
[07:49] <ere4si> *oo = open office
[07:49] <ere4si> crackhead100, are you using 64bit?
[07:51] <ere4si> brb
[07:57] <vlt> Hello. When I copy and paste something from Konqueror into an OpenOffice document all UTF-8 chars are interpreted as ISO. "€" => "â‚¬", "ö" => "Ã¶", "ß" => "ÃŸ" ... How to fix this?
[07:58] <cntb> vlt interesting question
[08:00] <noaXess> have installed kate-kde4.. and now if i run kate unde kde3, kate-kde4 will be started.. how to change that without uninstalling kate-kde4?
[08:21] <toker> hi all
[08:21] <toker> where can I get a copy of firefox.. that is not firefox 3?
[08:22] <toker> nothing seems compatable with FF3
[08:24] <noaXess> toker: www.getfirefox.com
[08:25] <ubuntu> hey guys... i had to format most of my computer, but I ghosted Kubuntu... im looking for the best way to reinstall Grub though
[08:25] <toker> no packages?
[08:26] <Gavo> any easy way from the live cd?
[08:29] <mkquist> Gavo: really this is just a google away but here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[08:29] <vlt> Gavo: `grub-install` is an easy way.
[08:29] <mkquist> Gavo: really easy to install/reinstall grub
[08:29] <Gavo> mkquist:  had no luck with the command prompt ones... entering my partition # caused all kinds of trouble before... messy drive
[08:29] <Gavo> thanks though
[08:29] <Gavo> cheers
[08:30] <vlt> Gavo: Did you read the --root-directory=DIR section of the manpage?
[08:30] <mkquist> Gavo: make sure ur picking the right drive to install too then, thats the only thing thats messed me up
[08:31] <cntb> guys do you know a channel at freenode to discuss PVR DVR TV ?
[08:31] <noaXess> how to disalbe the intalled kate-kde4, that kate for kde3 will run under kde3?
[08:31] <mkquist> Gavo: make sure ur clear in ur head as to where u are installing it, ive had no probs on a dual (triple) boot system once i thought it through.  Usually I was the problem.  G/L though
[08:31] <noaXess> cntb: try searcing in google..
[08:33] <cntb> noaXess OK
[08:33] <Gavo> yeppers   your spot on     me too... problem was I had an extended partition in the middle with unallocated space in 3 different places and somehow partition manager in windows put a partition on it
[08:38] <harmental> hey guys...i have a serious issue with kded after upgrading to kde 3.5.9....When i plug an usb drive, it is mounted automatically, but no icon is showed on desktop and kded starts eating up to 90% of the processor...also kmail halts (or at least the icon the systray dissapears...)
[08:39] <harmental> i tried to find my way through google...But it didnt help......any ideas??? its really bothering me since I have to reboot ...
[08:43] <walmik> hi all.. i had installed baghira to make kde look like mac os but now i just want to go back to th earlier setup... how can i do that without having to reinstall kubuntu? pls help
[08:49] <walmik> ah there must be some way to go back to the default k settings
[08:51] <Lynoure> walmik: If nothing else helps, you can move away your ~/.kde
[08:51] <kristjan_> still no news about kde4 hardy iso? how come?
[08:52] <kristjan_> (if kubuntu hardy will indeed come with kde4 cd also then it's about time to release it for testing)
[08:52] <Lynoure> kristjan_: #kubuntu-dev might know better
[08:52] <walmik> Lynoure: i m sorry but i did not understand it
[08:52] <kristjan_> Lynoure: that's wrong channel
[08:53] <kristjan_> #kubuntu-devel is right one
[08:53] <Lynoure> kristjan_: oh, anyway, meant the Kubuntu devel channel... or even #ubuntu+1
[08:53] <kolla> is there no >kde-3.5.7 for feisty?
[08:54] <Lynoure> walmik: If there is no Restore to default button for the appereance settings, and you don't have lots of custom kde settings, you can restore full default settings by   mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old   and logging out and back in
[08:55] <Lynoure> walmik: it moves all your kde settings to a backup location, new default settings get created automatically. Later if you wish you can pick and choose between the old custom and new default ones
[08:56] <Lynoure> walmik: But settings your own unique appereance settings can be whole fun too. I recommend playing with them first :)
[08:57] <walmik> Lynoure: I d love to but these settings havent turned out the way i thought they would...
[08:57] <walmik> Lynoure: Maybe i ve goofed upsomewhere
[08:58] <walmik> Lynoure: I wanted it to look like Mac OS and it does to a large extent but there are lot of glitches
[08:58] <Lynoure> walmik: I think it's just that the system is not really an OS X... much more satisfying at least for me was to make it look like OS Lynoure ;)
[08:59] <walmik> Lynoure: yea.. that makes more sense
[08:59] <Lynoure> Took a leasurely weekend day of tweaking.
[08:59] <walmik> Lynoure: so u suggest i do mv ~/.kde thingy
[09:00] <cheney> does any body speak Chinese
[09:00] <jussi01> !cn | cheney
[09:00] <ubotu> cheney: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[09:00] <walmik> Lynoure: i had installed compiz and it was fine till then.. but then when i installed baghira.. things started to turn sour
[09:00] <Lynoure> walmik: only if you are ok with restoring all of Kde default settings. I think I recommend that only as a second choice, if you cannot tweak a look you are as ok with as you were with the default
[09:01] <Lynoure> walmik: oh, I'm not a compiz expert, so far have happily avoided it.
[09:02] <walmik> Lynoure: ok... i ll take ur advice,, i ll tweak for some more time and then if its still not smooth, then i guess i ll mv
[09:02] <walmik> Lynoure: thanks
[09:02] <kolla> maybe this is wrong channel... I'm looking for newer KDE packages for feisty
[09:03] <Lynoure> kolla: sounds like about as right channel as there is. How new?
[09:03] <Lynoure> kolla: One way is to upgrade to gutsy, that has about as new as one can get (even kde4)
[09:03] <kolla> well, 3.5.9 would be great :)
[09:04] <kolla> Lynoure: yes, I was hoping to avoid that
[09:04] <cntb> cheney ?
[09:04] <cheney> yes
[09:06] <Lynoure> kolla: I have not searched for other alternatives yet...
[09:06] <cntb> you from PRC?
[09:06] <cheney> what problem
[09:06] <cheney> yes
[09:06] <cntb> good
[09:06] <cheney> cheney, beijing
[09:06] <cntb> PM maybe ?
[09:06] <cheney> how about you?
[09:06] <kolla> Lynoure: ok, thanks
[09:06] <cntb> PM
[09:06] <cheney> I just switch to kubuntu
[09:06] <Lynoure> kolla: I'm pretty sure there is no official 3.5.9 for Feisty. And did not find unofficial packages for that either.
[09:06] <kolla> me neither
[09:07] <cntb> good cheney
[09:07] <cheney> but , i meet some problems
[09:07] <kolla> ok, I'll see if I can be bothered enough to upgrade, or just wait for 8.04
[09:07] <Lynoure> kolla: Why the gutsy-avoidance?  (my occasional feisty-nostalgia is because of not having hibernation in gutsy on this laptop)
[09:08] <cheney> I install kubuntu in my laptop
[09:08] <kolla> Lynoure: lazyness... not my job etc :)
[09:08] <cntb> cheney  what laptop?
[09:08] <Lynoure> kolla: if you'll eventually want 8.04, you'll probably be safer to go through 7.10 anyway. I think skipping a release is not officially supported for non-LTS releases
[09:08] <cheney> haier
[09:08] <cheney> not popular
[09:08] <cntb> Haier
[09:09] <cheney> not the H/W issue
[09:09] <cheney> some problem about the input method of chinese
[09:09] <cntb> yes they have portable dvd  players
[09:09] <kolla> Lynoure: true.. ok, guess I can just as well do it
[09:09] <kolla> Lynoure: eagerly awaiting 8.04 in order to have long standing ldap/ssl annoyances fixed
[09:09] <cntb> cheney what did you try?
[09:10] <cheney> 2nd market share between chine PC manufactor
[09:10] <vlt> Hello. When I copy and paste something from Konqueror into an OpenOffice document all UTF-8 chars are interpreted as ISO. "€" => "â‚¬", "ö" => "Ã¶", "ß" => "ÃŸ" ... How to fix this?
[09:10] <kolla> I still dont grasp why linking against ancient libldap 2.1 was such a clever idea
[09:10] <cheney> I configure the skim, but I donot restart KDE and OS
[09:11] <cntb> do MS windows pinyin methods work the same in ubuntu cheney, Iam asking myself
[09:11] <cheney> I used ubuntu before. But I want to try KDE4, so I switch to kubuntu.
[09:12] <cntb> was ubuntu OK for input method of chinese ?
[09:12] <cheney> Yes. I used scim under gnome, and can input chinese using PINYIN
[09:12] <cheney> the ubuntu has no problem, everything is OK.
[09:13] <cntb> and skim is the parallel similar in konqueror
[09:13] <cntb> sorry KDE cheney
[09:13] <cheney> yes, it may be a configuration problem.
[09:13] <cheney> 3 years ago, I used KDE under SUSE 8.0
[09:14] <cheney> NOT 3 years, it is 6 years ago.
[09:14] <ubuntu> hi im installing kubuntu everything went fine until 89% where it says "checking for packages to remove and has been like so for around 20 mins this happens everytime i try to install this, version 7.10, amd64 dvd and im running this on the live dvd
[09:15] <kolla> hm, typical.. "getting upgrade prerequisites failed"
[09:15] <cheney> I focuses on embedded linux since year 2000.
[09:17] <ubuntu> hi im installing kubuntu everything went fine until 89% where it says "checking for packages to remove and has been like so for around 20 mins this happens everytime i try to install this, version 7.10, amd64 dvd and im running this on the live dvd is there anything thing that i can do please can someone help
[09:18] <Lynoure> kolla: hmm. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/153980 has some potential workarounds
[09:20] <kolla> 2008-02-25 10:18:31,324 ERROR pre-requists item 'http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/release-upgrader-dpkg/release-upgrader-dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu11.2_i386.udeb' is NOT trusted
[09:20] <kolla> seen it before
[09:22] <cntb> cheney
[09:22] <Z3U5> Lynoure: Hi i seemed to have worked around and got the internet working, but still getting the same error while installing it isaying "checking for packages to remove" and 89%
[09:25] <Lynoure> Z3U5: I'm confused now... On the same machine?
[09:27] <Lynoure> Z3U5: Wouldn't that put you past the stage where you are using the kubuntu installer to install kubuntu?
[09:27] <Z3U5> Lynoure: yep, i even ran check install disc which is on the install menu results were fine, im right now takling to you on the live dvd, yes, it has put me past that stage
[09:29] <Z3U5> Lynoure: this stage happenes right after spanning for mirror
[09:34] <Lynoure> Z3U5: It seems some people have managed past it by brutally restarting the computer, and then installing some needed driver after the reboot. What display card you have?
[09:34] <Z3U5> Lynoure: nvidia geforce 6200
[09:35] <Lynoure> Z3U5: hmm. not sure. If you are daring you could try removing the install cd, and rebooting from the stuckness.
[09:37] <Z3U5> Lynoure: do i install needed drivers from adept manager, i tried to do that yesterday, all it showed was error in booting
[09:38] <Lynoure> Z3U5: or you could try the alternate install cd
[09:38] <Z3U5> Lynoure: i am not aware of this
[09:38] <Z3U5> Lynoure: do i need to dload this
[09:40] <Lynoure> Z3U5: It could help, yes.
[09:41] <Z3U5> Lynoure: is there a way for kubuntu to check install and dload whatever is not
[09:41] <Lynoure> Z3U5: It's downloadable through the normal kubuntu download page, but the installing experience is a bit different
[09:42] <Lynoure> Z3U5: that depends on what error you get... You'll need it to get to at least a command line to do anything.
[09:44] <Z3U5> Lynoure: "checking for programs to remove" thats where it gets stuck no error and it is still stuck there right now
[09:45] <Lynoure> Z3U5: I got that. But you said you tried booting without cd from that, and got an error in the boot. Which error?
[09:46] <Z3U5> Lynoure: lemme restart and try ill come and let you know
[10:00] <harmental80> hey guys...kubuntu-desktop is making the kded to eat the processor up each time a usb device is plugged.....
[10:00] <harmental80> any ideas?
[10:07] <tass_2> got a problem with kdm: if i log in as user, it crashes and returns to the login screen
[10:07] <tass_2> if I start x as root, it works
[10:08] <Z3U5> Lynoure: the system booted into xp, i guess grub was not installed
[10:10] <Lynoure> Z3U5: that's weird, I think the grub normally gets installed before that step. If I was physically there, I'd boot with a rescue cd to see if I can boot Linux at all from the harddisk, but I think the alternate install cd might be the best bet nevertheless
[10:13] <Z3U5> Lynoure: can you give the url to download this
[10:14] <Lynoure> Z3U5: where are you located? (So that I can give you the one to the closest mirror)
[10:15] <Z3U5> Lynoure: india
[10:18] <Lynoure> Z3U5: it was an amd64, right? This might be from the closest mirror: http://ubuntu.indika.net.id/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[10:18] <harmental> hey guys...if a remove --purge kubuntu-desktop...And then reinstall it....will i recover all my kde settings, kontact files, etc....?
[10:18] <harmental> in order words...is it safe?
[10:18] <jussi01> harmental: it wond do anything
[10:18] <jussi01> wont
[10:19] <jussi01> harmental: kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[10:19] <harmental> jussi01: sorry..i forgot to tell that ill do remove --purge kubuntu-desktop and autoremove afterwards....
[10:19] <jussi01> harmental: there is a chance it can break things
[10:21] <harmental> jussi01: mmm....ok...so lets try another thing....i've upgraded to kde 3.5.9 last week...and i've been experiencing serious problems since: each time i plug an USB drive kded goes to roof (90% and counting) there is no icon on the desktop and i have to use dolphin for the drive to be automounted...also it hungs up kontact....
[10:22] <harmental> i've tried purging kdm and kubuntu-desktop...the installing only kdm and things seem to work fine....the moment i install kubuntu-desktop the problem comes back....
[10:22] <jussi01> ouch
[10:22] <harmental> jussi01: i really dont know what to do...and google hasnt been of any help.....
[10:23] <harmental> there has been similar reports but no solution whatsoever....
[10:23] <jussi01> harmental: apart from a regress to 3.5.8 ...
[10:23] <harmental> what i dont get is why kubuntu-desktop is responsible for that kind of behavior....
[10:24] <harmental> jussi01: i think ill do that and pray...
[10:24] <harmental> how can i roll back smoothly?
[10:24] <jussi01> harmental: you dont need the meta package, so dont install it :)
[10:24] <Z3U5> Lynoure: thanks later
[10:25] <harmental> also (and this is a minor problem) the login screen is not the one i've set in the kdm manager...its not even the kubuntu login....i think is the default kde login...
[10:25] <jussi01> harmental: where did you get the 3.5.9 packages?
[10:26] <vlt> Hello. Will KDE 3.5.x still be availbale in Kubuntu 8.04?
[10:26] <harmental> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-kde-3.5.9/ubuntu gutsy main
[10:26] <harmental> as explained in kubuntu website
[10:27] <jussi01> vlt: yes
[10:29] <vlt> jussi01: Seems to be the better choice at the moment, right?
[10:29] <jussi01> vlt: hardy will ship with both kde3 and 4 - 2 separate disks
[10:38] <philipp_> hi there, does anyone know how to make the standard-search-funktion find anything (on an externel drive e.g.)
[10:39] <Lynoure> philipp_: anything? Or something specific? I can make  find  find most things, but I bet there are some I'd have trouble with. Could help you better if you told a bit more on what you want to find...
[10:40] <philipp_> i just want it to find my files on my usb-pen etc
[10:46] <Lynoure> philipp_: all the files on the usb-pen?
[10:46] <Lynoure> philipp_: or files by certain name, or some other criteria on the usb-pen?
[10:47] <philipp_> maybee music files, whatever, just as the usual windows-search-funktion
[10:47] <philipp_> of course filtering by name ^^
[10:48] <Lynoure> philipp_: http://www.linux.com/articles/55377  is an excellent intro to using  find
[10:51] <Lynoure> philipp_: e.g.  find /media/usb-pen -name "*.ogg"   would find all your ogg music files under /media/usb-pen
[10:56] <harmental> jussi01: im done! how can i roll back smoothly to kde 3.5.9?
[10:56] <philipp_> ah, i finally succeeded, thanks!
[10:57] <jussi01> harmental: you mean to 3.5.8 ?
[10:57] <harmental> yeap..thats right...good old 3.5.8
[10:57] <ali3n51> hello
[10:57] <jussi01> to be honest, im not exactly sure of the correctprocedure
[10:58] <jussi01> !hi | ali3n51
[10:58] <ubotu> ali3n51: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:58] <ali3n51> how i can change the boot screen
[10:58] <jussi01> !splash
[10:58] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[10:58] <jussi01> hmmm
[10:58] <jussi01> not that one
[10:58] <ali3n51> i am using kubuntu
[10:58] <jussi01> yeah, sorry about that, which boot screen do you want to change? the login?
[10:59] <ali3n51> login and bootscreen
[10:59] <jussi01> ali3n51: system settings - Splash screen
[11:00] <ali3n51> how i can activate the splash screen
[11:01] <ali3n51> to install splash screen in able to activate
[11:02] <jussi01> ali3n51: I told you already...
[11:02] <ali3n51> k
[11:03] <harmental> does anybody know how to downgrade kde please?
[11:07] <ali3n51> do u think ubuntu/kubuntu can attack the spyware/malware and viruses?
[11:07] <vlt> Hello. Where can I test my installation of flashplugin?
[11:07] <ali3n51> what anti virus sofware to use to prevent the attack
[11:10] <ali3n51> how can update the kde 3.5 to 4.0
[11:10] <jussi01> !virus | ali3n51
[11:10] <ubotu> ali3n51: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:10] <bab> Who has a Canon LiDE 500F? The scanner does a great job under Wi***ws but the SANE project said, that the status for this device is "unsupport" for a few years ... "GL841 based, to be added to genesys backend"
[11:10] <jussi01> !kde4 > ali3n51
[11:12] <ali3n51> if possible the kde 3.5 to update into kde 4.0
[11:13] <jussi01> ali3n51: join #kubuntu-kde4
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:44] <jussi01> oh no its ActionParsnip... ( hei there)
[11:46] <ali3n51> beryl is compatible to kubuntu?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> werd up jussi01
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> ali3n51, absolutely
[11:46] <ali3n51> oh really
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | ali3n51
[11:46] <ubotu> ali3n51: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> ali3n51: yes, but compiz-fusion is preferred these days
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> !beryl
[11:46] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[11:47] <ali3n51> i have already installed is my system
[11:47] <ali3n51> but i can't run the effects
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> ali3n51, have you ran compiz --replace
[11:48] <antowen> hola
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> werd up antowen
[11:55] <Z3U5> Lynoure:ok so i got the alternate cd as you asked me to, now what should i do
[11:56] <Lynoure> Z3U5: more like recommended than asked. I found out some people who get the problem you got, do not get it when installing with the alternate cd
[11:58] <Z3U5> Lynoure:thanks lemme see what happens, will keep you updated
[11:58] <pushax> does anyone know of a MAME repository?
[12:01] <SupaFly> Hello there, hey im using Kubuntu 7.10, and the crystal window's decoration, it was working fine( with my X800 XT ATI card ) until the other day, now the windows borders have dissapeared :S, i tired kwin--replace but that did not help, help much appreciated
[12:02] <pushax> SupaFly: could it be your montior?
[12:02] <SupaFly> no definatly not the monitor lol
[12:02] <pushax> SupaFly: are you using a LCD?  if so max a window and press what ever button to auto align screen
[12:03] <SupaFly> yes but i know what it is supposed to look like, the other day crystal decided not to play anymore and now i cant see the window borders anymore
[12:03] <pushax> ALT-F3 ont he window
[12:04] <pushax> SupaFly: I think you press ALT-F3 ont he window and it will put the border on
[12:04] <pushax> on the...
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> pushax, very yorkshire there :D
[12:05] <sveri> does somebody know how to remove a 'weird' file?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> sveri, define weird
[12:05] <jussi01> hehe
[12:05] <jussi01> pushax: you want mame roms or an emulator?
[12:05] <pushax> ActionParsnip: what do you mean by yorkshire?  I'm welsh..  hehehe
[12:06] <pushax> jussi01: I'd like roms but mainly after the exec.  xmam is too old builds now.  like xmame is 2006 builds
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> pushax, int is very yorkshire (leeds here)
[12:06] <sveri> kubuntu tells me that the file is weired, ok, a bit more explanation, i mounted a backup partition on ext3 and try to delete some files, ls -lisa in the directory gives me: memory exhausted and ls -lisa xs_colors.h:2295969 ?r-S-w-rwx 22388<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER> 1994-07-14 01:13 xs_colors.h
[12:06] <SupaFly> yep but thats kcontrol pushax, and believe me ive tried to adjust the settings, but no luck
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> sveri, try sudo rm <whatever file>
[12:07] <sveri> and i i want to remove, chown, or chmod it linux tells me that operation is not permitted, the same if i do it as root
[12:07] <sveri> +happens
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> pushax, do you mean like www.romnation.net
[12:07] <pushax> SupaFly: try kdesu kcontrol then adjust
[12:07] <pushax> ActionParsnip: looking now.  thx.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> sveri, try sudo-ing stuff
[12:07] <sveri> ActionParsnip: i did
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> sveri, whats the output of 'file xs_colors.h' (without the 's)
[12:09] <pushax> brb
[12:09] <sveri> ActionParsnip: xs_colors.h: ERROR: invalid mode 074427
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> sveri, sudo chmod 7777 xs_....
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> sveri, then sudo rm xs_...
[12:10] <sveri> ActionParsnip: again, the operation is not permitted
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> sveri, got a live cd distro?
[12:12] <sveri> yea
[12:12] <sveri> but thats not the problem
[12:12] <sveri> the partition is on another hard drive
[12:12] <sveri> i can unmount it and acces it
[12:13] <sveri> without booting from live cd
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> sveri, true. just figured live cd would be ok
[12:15] <sveri> yea, surely
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> sveri, worth a shot. very weird how its "stuck"
[12:16] <Sbucatone_> Hello World,
[12:16] <sveri> ActionParsnip: yea
[12:16] <peska> hi. Im searching for a tool like scotty. Does anybody have some recomendations?
[12:16] <sveri> ActionParsnip: i never seen that before
[12:16] <Sbucatone_> scotty mm nice name what is ? peska
[12:17] <peska> Sbucatone_: it's a graphical network analyser. for mapping LANs...
[12:18] <Sbucatone_> peska: ah well like look lan , in understand ..well i am sorry i don't know nothing about that
[12:19] <pushax> jussi01: I was hoping there would be a secret or open respository just for mame stuff. heheh
[12:20] <Sbucatone_> peska: look at this maybe can be usefull or not http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=521731
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> peska, ethereal is cool :)
[12:21] <peska> Sbucatone_: thanx. I'll check it.
[12:21] <pushax> I've got the mame bug after watching The King of Kong movie.
[12:21] <Sbucatone_> ActionParsnip: is this on repo ?
[12:21] <peska> ActionParsnip: ethereal still exists?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone_, try it
[12:26] <milestone> hi all
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> peska, yeah its awesome dude
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> hi milestone
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> !hi | milestone
[12:27] <ubotu> milestone: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:27] <milestone> is it possible to define search domains within knetworkmanager or networkmanager in general?
[12:27] <milestone> it keeps overwriting my changes in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:27] <milestone> any help is highly appreciated
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> milestone, no idea sorry
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> milestone, someone else maybe able to
[12:42] <vlt> Hello. When I load http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ in Firefox I get a "Flas is installed, version 9.0.115" window. Using Konqueror I don't see this message, get an html only version from maps.google.com and can't watch youtube videos, for example. Any ideas what to check first?
[12:42] <vlt> s/Flas/Flash
[12:44] <vlt> I installed the flashplugin-nonfree package <IP_ADDRESS>.0ubuntu11~dapper3 from dapper-backports.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> vlt, try sudo cp-ing the .so file to your plugins directory
[12:47] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Where's the .so file and where the plugin dir?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> vlt, if you got the file from adobe, you should extract it to get an installer and a .so file? is that what you have
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> vlt, and are you on 32bit or 64bit kubuntu?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Running ktorrent, and every so often i get an error on a torrent  'too many open files'
[12:48] <vlt> ActionParsnip: No, I installed/used the Kubuntu package
[12:48] <vlt> 32bit
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> vlt, 32bit is good :D
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> vlt, get the archive file and copy it to your plugins dir
[12:49] <vlt> ActionParsnip: I'm pretty sure it worked a few days ago, rigtht after I installed it, hmmm ...
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> vlt, http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[12:50] <vlt> ActionParsnip: What's wrong with the package from backports?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> vlt, id uninstall what you installed too (saves confusion and space)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> vlt, ive never liked backports myself. This is just how I do it. I use firefox too but konqueror should be similar
[12:51] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Ok, I'll try.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> vlt, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/64255-macromedia-flash-player-konqueror-web-browser.html
[12:53] <Floppy_doggy> I got a problem here, when im talking in my mic i hear my own voice. How do i fix this?
[12:54] <vlt> Floppy_doggy: Check you (alsa)mixer settings. You can choose there what source should be audible.
[12:55] <vlt> s/you/your
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Floppy_doggy, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/help-i-cant-record-line-inmic-on-alsa-cs46xx-438831/
[12:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> I try to reboot my laptop and instead of coming to kdm, it comes to the terminal.  Once I log in and do /etc/init.d/kdm restart, it arrives to the kdm login page... what can be wrong?
[12:58] <gundam_rx78nt1> !hda-intel
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda-intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <vlt> gundam_rx78nt1: Have you checked that kdm isn't already running in VT7?
[12:58] <vlt> gundam_rx78nt1: (by pressing Alt+F7)
[12:58] <gundam_rx78nt1> it wasn't.  when I went to vt7, all I had was a blinking cursor.
[12:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> this was after the recent update.
[12:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh, wait a minute. brb.
[13:00] <vlt> gundam_rx78nt1: I often had this on Kubuntu Feisty. Then someday on of the updates fixed it ...
[13:01] <vlt> s/on/one
[13:02] <vlt> (only the second "on")
[13:02] <vlt> nm
[13:02]  * vlt seems to have some ov his keys broken
[13:17] <pushax> haven't tested yet but here are latest builds of mame.  http://wallyweek.altervista.org/rel123.php
[13:21] <siofwolves> is there an app to play realplayer files .rm ?
[13:23] <igno> grul: Hello my young lad
[13:23] <grul> igno, I have a great pdf for you, it's about something remotely related to kubuntu. http://ocw.mit.edu/NR/rdonlyres/Sloan-School-of-Management/15-023JSpring-2007/0C83B5D6-D4D4-453F-979A-2C771FCD416F/0/lect17.pdf
[13:24] <siofwolves> nvm, found it.
[13:25] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok I realized what my problem was...
[13:25] <gundam_rx78nt1> Now, if I can get my audio card working...
[13:25] <farnz_> okey first time ive installed Kubuntu any does and dont's????
[13:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> I did an update and had to remove the linux header package, it removed my audio card drivers.  I have re-installed alsa, headers, and restricted drivers.  I can't find any drivers to modprobe.
[13:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> The driver that is required is snd-hda-intel
[13:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> any help?
[13:27] <Thecks> Apt is locked for some reason, anybody know how to unlock it? :)
[13:28] <Pici> Thecks: If you are sure that you are using sudo and have no other package managers open...
[13:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> if you don't have anything that has it open, do a sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:28] <Pici> !aptfix
[13:28] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:28] <Thecks> Thaks =]
[13:28] <Thecks> Nope, fresh install, it was doing updates and just crashed.. fun =[
[13:31] <Thecks> Good, looks like it's happy again =]
[13:31] <mingo__> hola
[13:32] <mingo__> va aqui no hay nadie
[13:37] <gundam_rx78nt1> !spanish |mingo__
[13:37] <ubotu> mingo__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:38] <farnz_> HELP! why does my mouse keep locking up????
[13:38] <farnz_> please
[13:41] <pushax> farnz_: what type of mouse is it
[13:42] <pushax> gone
[13:54] <xrestassuredx> how can i change the size of icons in dropdown menu items? i accidentally applied one of those "blind people" themes and now everything is huge!
[13:55] <spyd3r> !resolution
[13:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[13:55] <xrestassuredx> it's not my resolution
[13:56] <spyd3r> it wasnt meant for you
[13:56] <spyd3r> i didi it for myself
[13:56] <xrestassuredx> ah
[13:56] <spyd3r> im trying to figure everything out
[13:57] <spyd3r> !compiz
[13:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:00] <MrJigsaw> SlimeyPete: thanks for the help with qtparte.. now it fucked up a VERY importent harddrive of mine..
[14:03]  * SlimeyPete blinks at MrJigsaw
[14:03] <MrJigsaw> Not even funny..
[14:04] <SlimeyPete> I'm not sure what you're talking about
[14:08] <SlimeyPete> MrJigsaw: I'm just intrigued as to why you aimed that at me... I don't remember discussing qtparted with you. Was it a long time ago?
[14:08] <saki> Any ideals as to why my computer would suddenly have the fans go insane followed by a self-reboot?
[14:09] <Dr_willis> saki,  desktop or laptop?
[14:09] <saki> Desktop
[14:09] <spyd3r> saki!! i need help lol
[14:09] <saki> Why hello, spyd3r
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> sup spyd3r?
[14:10] <Dr_willis> saki,  could be the video card drivers crashing.  the fan speed on my desktop of the video card is only 'slow' wheni have the video card drivers loaded.
[14:10] <MrJigsaw> yesterday evening SlimeyPete..
[14:10] <spyd3r> i cant get compiz-fusion to work
[14:10] <MrJigsaw> you tolk me yo load it up to fix grub.. and now one of my most important harddrives is gone
[14:10] <spyd3r> the guide i was given last night wont work for some reason
[14:10] <Dr_willis> spyd3r,  ati or nvidia card?
[14:11] <saki> Hrm...I think it has something to do with my ram because that was the last thing I switched before it started doing this.
[14:11] <spyd3r> nvidia
[14:11] <saki> but the last time I had this problem was because the RAM was mixed speed.
[14:11] <spyd3r> geforce 6100
[14:11] <saki> Long time ago, DDR 400 mixed with 333
[14:11] <Dr_willis> spyd3r you do have the actual nvidia drivers setup? used the restricted manager tool and installed them?
[14:12] <saki> but this time I bought brand new kingston DDR2 1066
[14:12] <SlimeyPete> erm... doesn't ring a bell, sorry. I think I mentioned the alternate CD and grub-install to you if that's what you mean, MrJigsaw?
[14:12] <saki> all four gigabytes together in a pack
[14:12] <SlimeyPete> or... was that to someone else
[14:12] <spyd3r> yes i have
[14:13] <Dr_willis> spyd3r, You may want to go into detail as to whats not working..  and what you have done so far to trouble shoot this.
[14:13] <SlimeyPete> MrJigsaw: yeah, I just scrolled back and can't see me mentioning qtparted. I think you have the wrong person.
[14:13] <saki> !mp3
[14:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:14] <spyd3r> ok when i got to install the compiz and plugins package it asks if i want to continue
[14:14] <spyd3r> i say y
[14:14] <spyd3r> and it aborts
[14:14] <spyd3r> so no package for me
[14:15] <Dr_willis> spyd3r,  so the issue is that the pakcage manager is goofing up.. whats the exact error type message?
[14:15] <spyd3r> id hafta do it all again
[14:15] <spyd3r> hold on lemme do it
[14:15] <Dr_willis> You did a 'sudo apt-get update ' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  befor trying?
[14:15] <Dr_willis> It pays to take notes. :)
[14:15] <harmental_> an urgent upgrade is needed to repair the kde 3.5.9 bugs....does anybody know if it is coming anytime soon???
[14:16] <Dr_willis> harmental_,  check the kubuntu forums perhaps?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> harmental_, if its available, get it in :)
[14:16] <Dr_willis> Im not even using 3.5.9 yet.
[14:17] <spyd3r> im doing it now
[14:17] <spyd3r> gimme a sec
[14:17] <saki> Time to test out the power of this /fully/ functional battlestation!
[14:18] <harmental_> ActionParsnip: if what is available??
[14:19] <spyd3r> ummmmm the upgrade option........does that d/l every update available for my system?
[14:20] <Dr_willis> spyd3r,  yes. basicially
[14:21] <pushax> how can I install a package without it wanting to remove another?
[14:22] <pushax> is there a way to firce just the pciked apet package to install?
[14:22] <Dr_willis> remove another? what one is it wanting to remove?
[14:22] <pushax> is there a way to force just the picked adept package to install?
[14:23] <pushax> Dr_willis: I've installed a new version of MAME, but I want to use the kxmame gui frontend.  when I pick it in Adpet it wants to remove a DEB package of the new MAme I got.
[14:23] <spyd3r> crap
[14:24] <spyd3r> its gunna be downloading forever.....
[14:24] <pushax> Dr_willis: I'm sure the kxmame front end for mame should work on any mame build
[14:24] <Dr_willis> pushax,  do you downloaded a newer mame  deb from somewhere?
[14:24] <Dr_willis> I normally compile the latest mame from source. and keep it in my users dir. Then point kxmame to that binary/version.
[14:25] <pushax> Dr_willis: yep I got the latest ver 0.123  the xmame version is from 2006 on the main repositories
[14:25] <pushax> http://wallyweek.altervista.org/rel123.php
[14:25] <Dr_willis> odd that kxmame wants to remove the newer mame..  Unless the package names/versions are not matching some how
[14:26] <pushax> Dr_willis: it considers it a different item as it's not a new version of xmame.  the new mame I have is sdlmame
[14:27] <Dr_willis> yea. ya could edit the .deb file to tell it to ignore the conflicts i guess..  But that sounds like a hassle.
[14:27] <pushax> Dr_willis: I wanted to know if there is a way to force a single picked package without ti doing toher association processing
[14:27] <spyd3r> those lines you gave me are d/ling now willis
[14:27] <spyd3r> says i have 40 some odd minutes to go
[14:27] <Dr_willis> No idea on that pushax  - proberly is. apt has so many features its scary
[14:27] <pushax> Dr_willis: that maybe a ways
[14:28] <Dr_willis> i wonder what owuld happenif you remove kxmame and the other mame, then install the new, THEN install kxmame.
[14:29] <slon__> русские есть?
[14:29] <Dr_willis> actually - isent the mame  variants like xmame, sdlmame, and the others sort of a 'you can only have 1' instlled  sort of limit?
[14:30] <Dr_willis> I always found the ones in the repos to be so old. I just use source. :) havent messed with them much.
[14:30] <Dr_willis> Well Its bed time for me. Goodnight all.
[14:30] <pushax> Dr_willis: well the sdlmame deb didn't want to instlal when it saw xmame and kxmame doesn't want sdl installed when trying it
[14:31] <spyd3r> crap now im left alone agin
[14:32] <Creationist> I'm trying to get wireless working on my neighbor's laptop and have found some guides, but they all require internet access from the laptop.  Obviously, the laptops wireless access doesn't work, but neither does using my wired internet... I connect the cable and nothing.
[14:42] <farnz__> yo
[14:42] <farnz__>  hello
[14:44] <saki> !64bit
[14:44] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[14:45] <Daisuke-Ido> that should say "pretty much fully supported, with a few caveats"
[14:49] <saki> xD
[14:49] <saki> Chroot environment
[14:49] <saki> I'm trying to decide if that might be the problem
[14:49] <saki> just if its trying to access some of the RAM thats hidden due to the 32-bit system.
[14:49] <saki> and causing an address failure
[15:07] <bittin> Hi somone knows how to get Tele2 Broadband to work in Kubuntu?
[15:08] <Daisuke-Ido> would probably be more likely to get an answer if you informed people as to what kind of connection Tele2 is...
[15:08] <bittin> a DSL connection
[15:09] <Daisuke-Ido> external modem, ethernet to the pc?
[15:09] <Daisuke-Ido> cat5, rather
[15:09] <bittin> its from a router
[15:09] <Daisuke-Ido> are you on that machine now?
[15:09] <bittin> and i putted it in to electroicy things
[15:10] <bittin> nah but i got it besides me
[15:10] <bittin> 1 cm
[15:10] <Daisuke-Ido> hmm
[15:11] <Daisuke-Ido> i'm not seeing anything, it should be exactly like any other wired connection
[15:12] <bittin> i also thinks so
[15:13] <bittin> the problem is i need to get PPPoE to work
[15:16] <jussi01> !pppoe | bittin
[15:16] <ubotu> bittin: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[15:17] <bittin> jussi01: yepp but can't download that package without internet on that computer
[15:17] <jussi01> !aptoncd | bittin
[15:17] <ubotu> bittin: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[15:18] <bittin> thats true
[15:18] <bittin> but don't got an empty cd at all here :P
[15:18] <jussi01> :)
[15:18] <mrunagi> go buy some lol
[15:18] <jussi01> well then...
[15:18] <bittin> don't got moneys
[15:18] <bittin> trying to help my grand parents
[15:18] <bittin> and its far away from town
[15:18] <mrunagi> i have tons here and im broke
[15:18] <mrunagi> want some?
[15:18] <jussi01> bittin:  any chance of networking the 2 pc's, then internet connection sharing for a bit?
[15:19] <bittin> maybe
[15:19] <bittin> if i knowed how i do that from mac osx Wirless to Kubuntu?
[15:19] <mrunagi> why not dl the deb you need and put it on the other
[15:21] <jussi01> bittin: wait a sec, cant you just use kppp which is already installed?
[15:22] <bittin> i can send it with m-player =)
[15:22] <bittin> mp3-player
[15:22] <jussi01> bittin: try kppp in the "internet" menu
[15:23] <bittin> should do that
[15:24] <sammu> how can u share files in here?
[15:24] <mrunagi> i use kppp for bluetooth DUN
[15:24] <mrunagi> =)
[15:25] <playstation3> hi aşş
[15:25] <playstation3> all
[15:26] <jussi01> hi
[15:26] <playstation3> i need an updated sources.list file
[15:26] <playstation3> where can i find
[15:26] <playstation3> i cant update , upgrade or install any updates
[15:26] <playstation3> i m using 7.10
[15:26] <playstation3> gutsy
[15:27] <mrunagi> updated sources? what do you mean by that
[15:27] <jussi01> playstation3: what errror does it give?
[15:27] <playstation3> Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/gutsy-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found
[15:27] <playstation3> and more like this
[15:27] <jussi01> playstation3: go to adet, click manage repositories, and choose a new mirror
[15:28] <jussi01> adept*
[15:28] <spyd3r> how do i get the cube effect to work?
[15:28] <jussi01> ok, hang on, you are using which arch?
[15:28] <spyd3r> mrunagi!!
[15:28] <spyd3r> hi
[15:28] <playstation3> adept not updating , giving errors also
[15:28] <jussi01> spyd3r: you will probably get more help on that in #compiz-fusion
[15:29] <spyd3r> ive tried everyone ignores me
[15:29] <jussi01> playstation3: are you on ppc?
[15:29] <playstation3> yep , playstation3 Cell
[15:29] <jussi01> spyd3r: its quite a busy channel, I would suggest try again
[15:30] <BluesKaj> got biggie crash this morning, no desktop except for the panel , but now the login sequence quits at the 3rd symbol and goes back to the login page. I had managed to boot up normally previous to this and then everything crashed. I'm on TTY prompt right now.
[15:30] <jussi01> playstation3: ask in #ubuntu-powerpc
[15:30] <BluesKaj> tried reconfiguring X but nothing
[15:31] <jussi01> BluesKaj: move you .kde to another place, see if its a setting
[15:31] <jussi01> your*
[15:31] <BluesKaj> how
[15:33] <jussi01> BluesKaj:go to /home/username then mv .kde .kde-old
[15:38] <Blueskaj> oops , jussi01  , what did you mean by 'moving kde' ?
[15:39] <jussi01> Blueskaj: not kde, but your .kde  folder
[15:40] <Blueskaj> I'm in the shell prompt using irssi
[15:40] <mrunagi> weird..........on a samba share, copy and paste requires a password that doesnt exist, but moving a folder  doesnt
[15:41] <Blueskaj> jussi01:  I have no access to folders other than cli commands
[15:42] <mrunagi> Blueskaj: that is a cli command
[15:42] <jussi01> Blueskaj: as i said before, use:  mv .kde .kde-old
[15:42] <mrunagi> sudo mv ~/.kde ~/.kdeold
[15:42] <jussi01> mrunagi: shouldnt need sudo there
[15:42] <jussi01> its a user folder
[15:42] <mrunagi> i see
[15:43] <mrunagi> i have a bad habit of using sudo for everything
[15:43] <jussi01> mrunagi: yes, that is a bad habit...
[15:43] <mrunagi> WHY does smb ask me for a password that doesnt exist =(
[15:43] <hydrogen> yay for the additional security sudo provides!
[15:45] <Blueskaj> ok, did that in another shell, now I do ?
[15:45] <jussi01> Blueskaj: startx :)
[15:45] <hydrogen> mmm
[15:45] <hydrogen> startx is probably a bad idea
[15:45] <spyd3r> hi mrunagi
[15:45] <spyd3r> :P
[15:45] <Blueskaj> exit
[15:45] <hydrogen> unless you've set you're window manager of choice
[15:46] <hydrogen> to be that which you prefer
[15:46] <hydrogen> otherwise you get to play twm
[15:46] <hydrogen> with twm*
[15:47] <mrunagi> hi spyd3r
[15:47] <mrunagi> startx will tell you why X wont load =/
[15:48] <mrunagi> kdm start doesnt unless its somewhere i dunno
[15:48] <hydrogen>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:48] <mrunagi> thats just an extra step i have to take lol
[15:48] <mrunagi> :D
[15:49] <mrunagi> spyd3r: what are you working on today
[15:49] <spyd3r> figuring out how to get compiz to actually work
[15:49] <spyd3r> res is fixed
[15:49] <mrunagi> why doesnt it 'work'
[15:49] <mrunagi> tell compiz to get a job
[15:50] <spyd3r> and all the compiz-fusion stuff is on
[15:50] <spyd3r> but its not working the way its sposed to i guess
[15:50] <mrunagi> then whats the problem
[15:50] <mrunagi> why
[15:50] <mrunagi> be specific man!
[15:50] <spyd3r> here take a look
[15:50] <mrunagi> ::blank stare::
[15:50] <spyd3r> http://pastebin.ca/917641
[15:51] <kulacs> sonebody speaks hungary?
[15:51] <mrunagi> im hungry
[15:51] <spyd3r> im english
[15:51] <jussi01> !hu
[15:51] <ubotu> Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[15:51] <sammu> ᴞ‽⁂₩☠
[15:51] <mrunagi> spyd3r: what happens when you push ctrl alt right arrow
[15:52] <spyd3r> switches desktops
[15:52] <spyd3r> i have that affect
[15:52] <spyd3r> but no 3d cube
[15:52] <mrunagi> i mean does it slide?
[15:52] <mrunagi> or just switch
[15:52] <spyd3r> its only using 2 desktops
[15:52] <mrunagi> i  know this
[15:52] <mrunagi> answer my question
[15:52] <mrunagi> lol
[15:52] <spyd3r> i see a 3d effect when i do ti
[15:52] <mrunagi> what kind of 3d effect
[15:52] <spyd3r> but it just shows a backside of my current desktop and its a blank desktop
[15:53] <mrunagi> thats the cube
[15:53] <mrunagi> open a terminal
[15:53] <mrunagi> ccsm
[15:53] <mrunagi> have fun with the settings
[15:53] <mrunagi> in general theres a place to define how many horizontal desktops.........change it from 2 to 4
[15:53] <spyd3r> i have been but i wanted the whole cube
[15:53] <spyd3r> not just 2 sides
[15:53] <mrunagi> well i just told you how to get 4
[15:53] <mrunagi> apparently you havent read it yet
[15:53] <mrunagi> =x
[15:53] <spyd3r> on my taskbar it says i have 4
[15:54] <siofwolves> is there a way to see what download speeds i'm getting? i'm downloading java atm and it'd be nice to see what the speed is.
[15:54] <spyd3r> but its only switching between 2
[15:54] <mrunagi> spyd3r: read above
[15:54] <spyd3r> do the ccsm in the terminal?
[15:54] <spyd3r> or just open the ccsm?
[15:55] <mrunagi> spyd3r: or if you want k menu > settings > advanced desktop effects settings
[15:55] <spyd3r> its already open
[15:55] <spyd3r> but i have it set for cube
[15:55] <spyd3r> and its still only showing 2 desktops
[15:56] <mrunagi> dude..........i cant help you more than telling you how to change that as i have already done
[15:56] <mrunagi> do i need to say it again?
[15:56] <spyd3r> im not understanding then i guess
[15:56] <Daisuke-Ido> go to #compiz-fusion if you need more help
[15:57] <spyd3r> im in there now
[15:57] <spyd3r> no ones answering me
[15:57] <mrunagi> im answering you qand you arent listening lol
 in general theres a place to define how many horizontal desktops.........change it from 2 to 4
[15:57] <spyd3r> im in ccsm
[15:57] <spyd3r> what do i need to change for the 4 desktops then
[15:57] <mrunagi> i just said it for the second time
[15:58] <spyd3r> yea see i told u im a noob
[15:58] <spyd3r> i have no idea where to look
[15:58] <mrunagi> you said you are in ccsm...........
[15:58] <Daisuke-Ido> General Options > Desktop Size tab > Number of Desktops
[15:58] <spyd3r> theres like 50 different options with sub menus
[15:58] <Daisuke-Ido> change that to 4
[15:58] <spyd3r> i am
[15:58] <mrunagi> then go to general
[15:58] <mrunagi> desktop size..........
[15:59] <mrunagi> horizontal virtual size to 4
[15:59] <Daisuke-Ido> mrunagi: you can't just tell someone who doesn't know the program to look "here", because there's a lot in "here" - try a detailed trail that will get them to where they need to know
[15:59] <Blueskaj> ctrl+alt+F1 doesn't give me the TTY prompt while booting,. Boots directly to the login page, so starting X is not possible .:(
[15:59] <spyd3r> i dont know where desktop size tab is
[15:59] <mrunagi> its under general options
[15:59] <mrunagi> where in ccsm are you right now spyd3r
[16:00] <spyd3r> wheres general options lol
[16:00] <Daisuke-Ido> oiy vey
[16:00] <spyd3r> im looking at a screen
[16:00] <mrunagi> and it says....
[16:00] <spyd3r> that has filter with a search box
[16:00] <spyd3r> category
[16:00] <spyd3r> lists the diff categories
[16:00] <Daisuke-Ido> JUST to the right of that
[16:00] <spyd3r> preferences
[16:00] <Daisuke-Ido> there's a General Options button.
[16:00] <mrunagi> such as....GENERAL?
[16:00] <mrunagi> my head hurts....
[16:00] <Daisuke-Ido> ...and yes, it's also listed under category
[16:01] <spyd3r> advanced ok i did i t
[16:01] <Daisuke-Ido> advanced what?
[16:01] <spyd3r> nuthing
[16:01] <mrunagi> advanced?
[16:01] <spyd3r> mistype
[16:01] <spyd3r> but im only gettin 3 lol
[16:01] <mrunagi> getting 3 what
[16:01] <Daisuke-Ido> i need excedrin
[16:01] <mrunagi> share Daisuke-Ido?
[16:02] <Daisuke-Ido> deal
[16:02] <spyd3r> ok i got 4 now
[16:02] <mrunagi> yay!!!!
[16:02] <spyd3r> now where do i get skins and so forth?
[16:02] <mrunagi> skins?
[16:02] <spyd3r> i have wobbly windows
[16:02] <mrunagi> themes?
[16:02] <spyd3r> but i want it to look like beryl
[16:02] <spyd3r> yes
[16:02] <mrunagi> what do you mean look like beryl
[16:02] <spyd3r> go to youtube
[16:02] <mrunagi> i dont need to
[16:03] <spyd3r> look at the video for vista aero vs beryl
[16:03] <Blueskaj> what's the best way to get to the TTY prompt after the boot menu ?
[16:03] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl doesn't exist
[16:03] <mrunagi> Blueskaj: only way i know is ctrl alt f1 f2 f3 etc
[16:04] <spyd3r> wha?
[16:04] <Daisuke-Ido> it merged with compiz
[16:04] <spyd3r> yes
[16:04] <spyd3r> i know that
[16:04] <Daisuke-Ido> so...  what's the problem?
[16:04] <spyd3r> but i want the same features as in that video
[16:04] <mrunagi> spyd3r: what do you mean by 'look like beryl'
[16:04] <spyd3r> go look at the video!
[16:04] <Daisuke-Ido> they're all there, learn your way around ccsm
[16:04] <spyd3r> youll see
[16:04] <spyd3r> i want everything you can see there
[16:04] <Daisuke-Ido> spyd3r: you're going to have to do better than that
[16:04] <spyd3r> the rocketdock?
[16:04] <spyd3r> the backgrounds?
[16:05] <spyd3r> wallpapers whatever you wanna call em
[16:05] <mrunagi> wtf is rocketdock
[16:05] <mrunagi> !rocketdock
[16:05] <Daisuke-Ido> rocketdock isn't part of beryl or compiz.
[16:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rocketdock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:05] <spyd3r> when you close a window it has sparklies
[16:05] <spyd3r> it looks like rocketdock
[16:05] <Daisuke-Ido> that's in the effects
[16:05] <spyd3r> if u want to know what im saying go watch the video
[16:05]  * Daisuke-Ido grumbles
[16:05] <Filled-Void> I have kde installed on my Ubuntu system and I was tryign to use the themes I previously used on gnome but it doesnt seem to work. I think they are gtk themes . Can I use GTK themes in kde?
[16:05] <spyd3r> skip halfway through and you can see it
[16:05] <Daisuke-Ido> it's not our job to go look at the video for you.
[16:06] <spyd3r> i know this
[16:06] <spyd3r> but i dont know any other way to explain it
[16:06] <mrunagi> you mean you want the dock at the top?
[16:06] <spyd3r> that
[16:06] <spyd3r> and more
[16:06] <mrunagi> you want awn
[16:06] <spyd3r> im a total and utter noob dazzled by pretty lights
[16:07] <spyd3r> so where do i go to get that?
[16:09] <Filled-Void> spyd3r, theres an awn guide in Ubuntu Forums. It has a good write up on how to install
[16:12] <mrunagi> spyd3r: there is alot going on in that video that isnt beryl
[16:12] <mrunagi> ooooh thats kiba dock
[16:12] <mrunagi> you dont want kiba
[16:13] <spyd3r> whats wrong with it?
[16:15] <mrunagi> its unstable
[16:15] <mrunagi> very noob unfriendly
[16:15] <spyd3r> ah ok
[16:16] <spyd3r> but thats not beryl?
[16:17] <al-_-Gir> next ubuntu will have kde4 as default desktop enviroment ?
[16:18] <HydrogenF> No
[16:23] <mrunagi> lol i xkilled my desktop
[16:23] <mrunagi> how do i get it back
[16:23] <spyd3r> mrunagi did you see the effect when the window was closed in that video
[16:23] <spyd3r> how do i get that?
[16:23] <mrunagi> lol please help  me i cant restart x for another hour
[16:23] <mrunagi> spyd3r: wait till next release
[16:24] <spyd3r> what?
[16:24] <mrunagi> that wont be added till the next release spyd3r
[16:24] <spyd3r> hmmm
[16:24] <spyd3r> so that video is it a demo?
[16:24] <mrunagi> no that video is of beryl
[16:24] <mrunagi> what is the command to start the actual desktop anyone know
[16:24] <Arwen> Beryl == dead, obsolete, and broken
[16:25]  * mrunagi is read with embarrassment
[16:25] <mrunagi> red rather
[16:25] <mrunagi> ah.........its kdesktop
[16:25] <edju> Doesn't ubuntu provide a list of debs available for download?  I've looked and looked, but can't find one.  Specifically, looking for a heron list.
[16:26] <mrunagi> are you friggen kidding me?!!?
[16:26] <mrunagi> starting the desktop killed my file transfer!
[16:26] <mrunagi> how annyoing
[16:26] <Pici> edju: packages.ubuntu.com?
[16:26] <Arwen> edju, packages.ubuntu.com
[16:26] <mrunagi> screw it in that case im restarting x brb
[16:27] <Arwen> they're also in a list somewhere in /var/lib/apt
[16:27] <edju> Ah, thanks.
[16:30] <edju> Well, that was easy enough.  Now, I need alsa 1.0.16, which is in hardy - can I remove gutsy alsa .14, and use dpkg to install the hardy .16, or will that break stuff?
[16:30] <Arwen> alsa is usually linked against the kernel so I would imagine that would be a bad idea
[16:31] <mrunagi> i am UNHAPPY right now =)
[16:33] <edju> Arwen, Thanks.  I thought that wouldn't work.  Wait till April, I guess.
[16:33] <Arwen> edju, well, actually, you could download the source packages and compile them
[16:33] <Arwen> that should work
[16:33] <mrunagi> omg!!!!! why does smb ask me for a password that doesnt exist
[16:34] <edju> I tried that - didn't work.  Must have missed some steps or other.
[16:34] <Arwen> mrunagi, that's how SMB authentication works. Respond with a blank password.
[16:45] <dbglt> I'm using kde4, and seem to have lost the panel at the bottom of the screen. Any idea how to get it back?
[16:45] <mrunagi> nope
[16:45] <jpatrick> dbglt: #kubuntu-kde4
[16:46] <mrunagi> what is kde4
[16:46] <jpatrick> !kde4 > mrunagi
[16:46] <mrunagi> i wouldnt call it a major release
[16:46] <mrunagi> can you safely run kde3 and kde4 next to each other?
[16:46] <jpatrick> mrunagi: not a major release??
[16:46] <jpatrick> mrunagi: yes
[16:46] <MGalaxy> is there any program to mange DSL accounts in kubuntu easily? (except PPPTRAY )
[16:48] <mrunagi> i heard it was broken
[16:56] <spyd3r> ok mrunagi im done for a little while i guess
[16:56] <spyd3r> ill ttyl
[16:57] <GAZEL> How can I disable ACPI when installing ?
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> GAZEL» before you boot, there is an otpion for editing the boot parameters, add "noacpi" to those parameters
[16:59] <GAZEL> nosrednaekim: how can i do it
[16:59] <GAZEL> editing boot parameters
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> GAZEL» it says on the grub screen for the liveCD (where you select what to start up) I think its f12 or something.
[17:00] <Daisuke-Ido> nosrednaekim: some days just aren't worth the effort it takes to chew through the restraints, eh?
[17:00] <GAZEL> thanks
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke-Ido» what?
[17:01] <Daisuke-Ido> nevermind :)
[17:01] <Daisuke-Ido> a play on "some days aren't worth the effort it takes to get out of bed"
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> oh :)
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> never had a day like that
[17:03] <Daisuke-Ido> loving xfce, by the way
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> xfce is nice on older HW... but I usually end up missing my KDE :)
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> BBL
[17:05] <mrunagi> xfce is ugly =(
[17:05] <GAZEL> nosrednaekim:
[17:05] <GAZEL>     PCI: BIOS bug:MCFG area at f000000 is not
[17:05] <GAZEL> E820-reserved
[17:05] <GAZEL>     PCI: Not using MMCONFIG
[17:05] <GAZEL>     ACPI: Getting CPU index for acpid 0x3
[17:06] <GAZEL>     ACPI: Getting CPU index for acpid 0x4
[17:06] <mrunagi> !paste
[17:06] <GAZEL> i tried noacpi but this problem still continues
[17:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:06] <GAZEL> mrunagi: it isnt large text i think, but thanks for suggestion :)
[17:10] <mrunagi> GAZEL: its more than 3 lines
[17:11] <mrunagi> it doesnt matter what you think it matters what the ops think..........but whatever man its your ban not mine
[17:11] <jpatrick> mrunagi: personally I'd mute, not ban
[17:12] <mrunagi> i dunno the actions that deeply i was just trying to help the fella out =/
[17:12] <jpatrick> :) aren't we all?
[17:12] <mrunagi> lol
[17:12] <mrunagi> no one ever listens to me anyway i dunno why i try
[17:13] <Exilant> Hi, i'm thinking about encrypting my harddisc (probably only /home), there are some nice tools, but what would be the (k)ubuntu way?
[17:14] <mrunagi> !encrypt
[17:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:20] <BluesKaj> hmm "Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key" - Server error...'scuse the caps but I'm quoting the error ..then it says  remove /tmp/ .X0-lock ..which I tried but there's no such command, so i'm stuck with the TTY ... what's to be done ?
[17:21] <stdin> Exilant: have a read of /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/CryptoRoot.HowTo  (from the cryptsetup package)
[17:22] <BluesKaj> stdin: any ideas about my X problem ?
[17:23] <stdin> BluesKaj: when you say "there's no such command" what do you mean
[17:23] <stdin> ?
[17:23] <sivaji> image i have a dual boot system xp and ubuntu if i remove kubuntu partition , will i be able to use grub to boot xp ?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> that was the error response to "remove /tmp/ X0-lock"
[17:24] <BluesKaj> err.X0-lock
[17:25] <Exilant> BluesKaj: rm /tmp/X0-lock
[17:25] <stdin> BluesKaj: "rm" is the remove command, and it's /tmp/.X0-lock
[17:25] <stdin> you'd want to "sudo rm /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 /tmp/.X11-unix/X0"
[17:25] <stdin> erm "sudo rm /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 /tmp/.X0"
[17:25] <stdin> that'll remove the lock and the socket so X should work
[17:25] <mrunagi> note that sudo rm is NOT rename.........you will make that mistake one time
[17:25] <mrunagi> and only once
[17:25] <Exilant> :)
[17:26] <stdin> there is no rename, just move ;)
[17:26] <BluesKaj> ok . i forgot rm was remove
[17:26] <mrunagi> i learned that the hard way
[17:26]  * mrunagi giggles in shame
[17:26] <mrunagi> lol
[17:26] <stdin> 'whatis <command>' is always a good thing when you don't know
[17:26] <Exilant> ok, so i'm going to use cryptsetup...
[17:26] <mrunagi> i thought i knew
[17:26] <mrunagi> till the dir didnt exist anymore
[17:27] <jpatrick> stdin: awesome, I didn't know that trick
[17:27] <stdin> :)
[17:27] <mrunagi> sweet i dont have to trust people anymore
[17:27] <mrunagi> people tell me to do commands all the time and im like............ok
[17:28] <stdin> I always read (part of) the man page before trying a new command, more out of habit than distrust
[17:36] <BluesKaj> stdin:  .X11-unix/X0 , no such file or directory. /tmp/ is adirectory
[17:36] <stdin> BluesKaj: I put "sudo rm /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 /tmp/.X0"
[17:37] <stdin> /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 is a socket and /tmp/.X0 is a lock file
[17:37] <wad> Do any of you guys use Thunderbird and Firefox under Kubunut? When I click a URL in an email message under Thunderbird, Firefox doesn't notice. Not sure how to fix this problem.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> ok stdin  I'll try again, but i'm pretty sure i followed your comand exactly , last time
[17:39] <stdin> everything is under /tmp, if it doesn't exist you may have nuked it already, so just try starting X again
[17:43] <BluesKaj> stdin:  startx goes to "initializing system services" then stops after 2 icons and reverts back to the login ...looks like a vicious cylcle
[17:44] <stdin> what about just starting /etc/init.d/kdm ?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> hang on, trying
[17:50] <BluesKaj> nope stdin , nothing
[17:50] <stdin> how did the problem start?
[17:52] <whabo>  guys help please how do i completely remove avant window nagigator ...... when i installed it installed 53 mbs and alot of packages ... but when i removed it it only removed 1 package HELP{ please
[17:55] <BluesKaj> stdin, I logged in normally and after checking kmail , the screen went black except for the panel , so decided to reboot when i couldn't reconfigure the desktop sceen or the screensaver in system settings
[17:57] <mrunagi> !kde4
[17:57] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:57] <mrunagi> when is kde4 suppose to be implemented in the repos for kubuntu-desktop
[17:57] <BluesKaj> note : my hardware is ok since the XP partiton is still ok, and the extapp in windows can see the files on ext3 /hda2
[17:59] <BluesKaj> I think I should have stayed away from kde 3.5.9...nothing but probs since then
[18:01] <stdin> BluesKaj: see what it says in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, look for lines with (EE) and (WW). but ignore font warnings
[18:01] <swatto> whats the shortcut for opening terminal please
[18:01] <BluesKaj> stdin: anyway ..got some errands to do ..BBL
[18:01] <tass1412> how to fade the wallpaper-changes?
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» hardy
[18:03] <Arwen> Trolltech was bought out by Nokia -- therefore, development status is endangered?
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> nah
[18:06] <DaSkreech> Arwen: not currently
[18:06] <DaSkreech> Curerntly it's the same except with oodles of money behind it now
[18:14] <coreymon77> so
[18:14] <coreymon77> whats the point of kde 359
[18:14] <coreymon77> ?
[18:14] <stdin> bug fix release
[18:15] <coreymon77> shouldnt they be working more on 4?
[18:15] <stdin> they are
[18:15] <emilsedgh> bugfixes
[18:15] <Arwen> coreymon77, they are
[18:15] <Arwen> the bugfixes are backported
[18:15] <emilsedgh> for kubuntu, just bugfixes
[18:16] <coreymon77> cause im still waiting for a kde4 konversation to come out
[18:16] <coreymon77> x11.app has been crashing alot lately ;)
[18:16] <Arwen> I'm still waiting for KDE 4 to come out...
[18:16] <stdin> coreymon77: konversation is not part of the KDE project
[18:16] <emilsedgh> coreymon77: 3 version will be used in several years.they shouldnt just drop it.also they are not spending mych time on it
[18:16] <coreymon77> okay
[18:16] <coreymon77> Arwen: lol\
[18:17] <emilsedgh> konversation will be ported soon, but kpete guys has no plan to support irc atm :(
[18:17] <redshark> bonsoir!!
[18:17] <coreymon77> ya, until it gets a lot more stable, im not gonna be using it much
[18:17] <redshark> personne ne parle le français,
[18:17] <coreymon77> my dell box cant handle it, and kde4/mac isnt all that good yet
[18:17] <coreymon77> redshark: a bit
[18:17] <stdin> !fr
[18:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:17] <coreymon77> redshark: this is the english channel though
[18:18] <redshark> ok merci
[18:18] <coreymon77> emilsedgh: how do you know about konv being ported?
[18:18] <llutz> anyone using a sdr (software defined radio) and linrad or other software with gutsy and may give me some hints?
[18:19] <emilsedgh> i asked
[18:19] <coreymon77> asked who?
[18:19] <emilsedgh> in a commit digest, if its going to be ported, and one of devs said it will be ported soon
[18:19] <coreymon77> and what do you mean by soon?
[18:20] <emilsedgh> let me find it
[18:20]  * nosrednaekim read that and was excited
[18:23] <coreymon77> anyways
[18:23] <coreymon77> time for class
[18:23] <coreymon77> bye guys
[18:23] <lzfy> hi
[18:23] <lzfy> can someone please help me getting sound to work?
[18:24] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: what's problem
[18:25] <gianluca> !list
[18:25] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: open a terminal type : alsamixer
[18:25] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: put everythings to max
[18:25] <lzfy> I can see my soundcard in kmixer but I can't hear anything
[18:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:25] <lzfy> I tried that :(
[18:25] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: lspci
[18:26] <Sbucatone_> !paste
[18:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:26] <jussi01> lzfy: which soundcard?
[18:26] <lzfy> nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2
[18:26] <lzfy> chipset is Sigmatel STAC9200
[18:27] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: wait a bit
[18:27] <lzfy> sure
[18:31] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: mm i see a lots of folks have problem with this card
[18:32] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: have you tried  to compile alsa driver ?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> exit
[18:34] <lzfy> yes
[18:34] <lzfy> I also upgraded to Hardy but that also didn't work
[18:35] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: mm it seems with feisty that worked...so i have found one has said mmm i ma sorry but uluckly i got few informations around the web
[18:36] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: i suggest this try to compile alsa driver i know there is 1.0.16 now
[18:36] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: so if doesn't work you can always try to compile ,
[18:36] <lzfy> thanks anyway
[18:36] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: have you seen wiki ? to compiling alsa ?
[18:37] <lzfy> i think it has to with the alsa.conf file
[18:37] <blistov> anyone know why after updates today, ksmserver is failing to start, causeing all kdm logins to fail.
[18:37] <blistov> ?
[18:37] <lzfy>  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[18:37] <lzfy> this file I meant
[18:38] <jussi01> blistov: on hardy or gutsy?
[18:38] <blistov> i assume gutsy. its for a client.
[18:38] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: rigt sometime you should add some line to that files
[18:38] <jussi01> blistov: I have not had such peoblems, and Im fully updated
[18:39] <lzfy> yeah but I don't know what to add :P
[18:40] <twosouls82> blistov: check it with "cat /etc/issue"
[18:40] <twosouls82> (ref "I assume"
[18:40] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: well if you download alsa driver you can find a nice file where you can get many information
[18:41] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: you find that file here alsa-driver-1.0.16/alsa-kernel/Documentation
[18:42] <tinin> Hi, how could I change file asociations in firefox? I just want to open download folders with konqueror
[18:42] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: the file is ALSA-Configuration.txt
[18:42] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: so download the driver un-pack it ang your should find that file
[18:43] <lzfy> thanks
[18:43] <lzfy> btw, how do i can i see what version of alsa i currently have?
[18:44] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: you can find in this way
[18:45] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: run alsamixer on the top you should find what are your alsa driver and your chip
[18:45] <lzfy> heh thanks
[18:46] <lzfy> I will try to compile it again
[18:46] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: try #alsa
[18:47] <lzfy> thanks, maybe they know more :)
[18:49] <Sbucatone_> lzfy: if you don't find anyone , don't give up...i have found many supporter in that channel
[18:55] <lzfy> thanks Sbucatone. I will try
[18:55] <lzfy> thanks for the help :)
[18:55] <ahmos> hi,I have enabled power savings so that the monitor shuts off after 45 minutes,now when I desable it, it returns the last settings back after rebooting,anyone can help me plz?
[18:59] <arcticpenguin380> !skype
[18:59] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[19:00] <MrJigsaw> can i set a partitation as root using live CD ?
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw» chroot?
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> !chroot
[19:01] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[19:01] <MrJigsaw> no
[19:01] <MrJigsaw> ROOT
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw» what do you mean?
[19:05] <mrunagi> !webcam
[19:06] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[19:09] <Arwen> Gah.. Hardy desperately needs a new ffmpeg...
[19:09] <mrunagi_> i get to fight with my webcam again lol
[19:09] <mrunagi_> yay!
[19:10] <nosrednaekim> :)
[19:10] <mrunagi_> i know it works i just dont know how i got it to work
[19:20] <tinin> Hi, how could I change file asociations in firefox? I just want to open download folders with konqueror
[19:20] <tinin> !firefox
[19:20] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[19:23] <jussi01> tinin: system settings -> default apps should have it i think
[19:25] <cr64> never buy anything from newegg that has "mail in rebate"
[19:25] <cr64> Everything I bought that was advertized with rebates, the rebates don't start effect unil the next week.
[19:26] <cr64> just lost like $300
[19:27] <nosrednaekim> cr64» I think you can still claim them
[19:27] <nosrednaekim> if they did the rebate within 14 days I think.
[19:28]  * Sammuu haistattaa pitkät
[19:28] <prince_jammys> !defaultapp | tinin
[19:28] <ubotu> tinin: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[19:28] <cr64> the rebates them selves say Feb28-march 15
[19:28] <mrunagi_> hey my cam works
[19:28] <mrunagi_> ya!
[19:29] <jussi01> mrunagi_: great!
[19:29] <mrunagi_> sweeet
[19:29] <mrunagi_> now i only use vista for 1 thing instead of 2
[19:30] <ahmos> hi, I need a little help..anybody can?
[19:31] <jpatrick> !anyone | ahmos
[19:31] <ubotu> ahmos: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:32] <zzillezz> hello, does kubuntu alpha 5 come with both kde 3.5.9 and kde 4.0.1 ?
[19:33] <zzillezz> can you choose to install only one of them or not ?
[19:33] <ahmos> i enabled power saving to turn off monitor after 45 minutes..now I disable it but after I reboot my computer I discover that the last settings have been not changed ..any clue?
[19:35] <jussi01> !khardy | zzillezz
[19:35] <ubotu> zzillezz: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit
[19:35] <zzillezz> can i paste urls here or not ?
[19:36] <nosrednaekim> zzillezz» yes
[19:36] <mrunagi_> depends on what its for?
[19:36] <jussi01> zzillezz: as long as they are relevant
[19:36] <zzillezz> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/daily-live/current/
[19:36] <jussi01> zzillezz: quite broken atm
[19:36] <zzillezz> then what's the difference between alpha 5 and this ?
[19:36] <mrunagi_> i couldnt seem to install kde4 so im not interested in trying
[19:36] <jussi01> zzillezz: that is the kde4 disk
[19:37] <zzillezz> so i'm better off installing the alpha 5 atm ?
[19:37] <jussi01> zzillezz: its the first one, I used it this afternoon and its not working at all right
[19:37] <jussi01> zzillezz: I would suggest furthe questions on this subject be directed to #ubuntu+1
[19:37] <zzillezz> alright, going to reboot and install alpha5 then
[19:38] <zzillezz> see you at the other side :)
[19:38] <zzillezz> thx
[19:38] <sarah> i installed my OS without internet access; how would one suggest i get the propper wireless card drivers? (just burn to CD?)
[19:39] <PriceChild> sarah, depends what your wireless card is?
[19:39] <PriceChild> sarah, please pastebin the output of lsusb and lspci
[19:39] <PriceChild> !paste | sarah
[19:39] <ubotu> sarah: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:40] <ahmos> no one helped me :(
[19:40] <sarah> erg its not on this comp; hold on
[19:41] <sarah> its a PCI card  but not listed in lspci
[19:41] <sarah> WRT300n
[19:41] <sarah> linksys
[19:43] <sarah> also i get a black screen when booting but control alt backspace brings me to the login
[19:48] <abortd> does apt-get purge uninstall a program?
[19:48] <abortd> i cant remember sorry
[19:49] <zzillezz> can i edit partitions when running the live cd ?
[19:49] <ahmos> !nvidia
[19:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:49] <jussi01> abortd: apt-get remove --purge
[19:50] <jussi01> abortd: that should completely remove the program
[19:50] <abortd> thanks
[19:50] <jussi01> :)
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> zzillezz» yes
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> sarah» why isn't it listed?
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> sarah» is it plugged in? does windows see it?
[19:51] <sarah> dont know :( windows sees it fine; it says no network device found when im in the live cd
[19:51] <sarah> zzillezz: its called qtparted, under system
[19:52] <zzillezz> thanks sarah :)
[19:52] <zzillezz> found it
[19:52] <sarah> =p
[19:52] <jinzougen> I'm compiling something that requires gmake, `man make` reveals that the make program installed is GNU Make, yet there is no gmake executable. Is my make program the required make program?
[19:52] <jinzougen> Is it safe to do something like ln /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/gmake
[19:52] <jinzougen> ln -s *
[19:53] <sarah> would you guys reccomend getting the windows driver; burning it to a CD; and using ndiswrapper? i cant really think of another way
[19:53] <zzillezz> but it doesn't seem to run from the live cd :(
[19:53] <sarah> zzillezz: odd i just used it
[19:53] <zzillezz> alpha 5 live cd ?
[19:53] <sarah> 4
[19:54] <zzillezz> it starts loading and then closes again
[19:54] <martin_zgierz> hello, i'm having some difficulties with my fresh installation of kubuntu
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> sarah» yeah... that might work
[19:54] <abortd> i know i have this program installed
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> martin_zgierz» like what?
[19:54] <martin_zgierz> adept updater downloaded all 250MB of updates started installing
[19:55] <martin_zgierz> and then there was a problem
[19:55] <martin_zgierz> it broke
[19:55] <abortd> but apt-get is not finding it any suggestions?
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> martin_zgierz» ok.... is everything working fine though?
[19:55] <martin_zgierz> and now i can't start adept manager to install anything - because that process is still working
[19:56] <crashed_> Anyone know a good tutorial for getting VMWare on Kubuntu with WinXP appliance?
[19:56] <sarah> martin_zgierz: killall <whatever the updater is>?
[19:57] <martin_zgierz> well,the problem is i have no idea what is the name of that process
[19:57] <Sammu> if some1 has games for kubuntu, send them to me plz
[19:58] <martin_zgierz> it was in the statur bar - it downloaded all newest versions of programs
[19:59] <sarah> ps ax | grep update
[19:59] <sarah> you could probably restart too if cant be figured out
[19:59] <martin_zgierz> i restarted the system two times already:/
[19:59] <sarah> and still wont start updater?
[20:00] <martin_zgierz> that's right, i cannot start it
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix | martin_zgierz
[20:00] <ubotu> martin_zgierz: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:00] <sarah> can you run adept on command line?
[20:01] <jhutchins_wk> aptitude or apt-get
[20:01] <crashed> apt-get
[20:01] <crashed> nosred: so how's it going?
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> crashed» great... you?
[20:02] <crashed> good. Finally came back to Kubuntu after a week and a half.
[20:03] <KnYaz> hi all
[20:03] <KnYaz> I have a question
[20:03] <nosrednaekim> crashed» of windows?
[20:04] <toker> what package do I need to install to make amarok play mp3's?
[20:04] <KnYaz> I run XChat, he write me: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[20:04] <KnYaz> why?
[20:04] <crashed> Yeah. Took me a week of Windows to remember how much it sucked again.
[20:04] <martin_zgierz> ubotu you're a God:) it worked:) have you got any idea why it could have crashed? so that i new for the next time:)
[20:05] <toker> KnYaz: Sorry can't help ya.. I use Konversation
[20:05] <martin_zgierz> sarah: ubotu's solution worked fine:)
[20:06] <KnYaz> I need client with proxy....
[20:06] <nosrednaekim> crashed» haha
[20:06] <Jonty> I keep getting syntax errors in my dpkg status file: how can I sort them?
[20:06] <martin_zgierz> sarah: have you got any idea why there was such a problem?
[20:06] <KnYaz> wath you know IRC-clients what work with proxy?
[20:06] <aKniwel> #vSell
[20:08] <crashed> Trying to get VMWare to work on here.
[20:08] <KnYaz> çäóô³ó ðóäç üóþþþ Æ(
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> crashed» use virtualbox... vmware is bleh
[20:08] <KnYaz> please.. help me...
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> martin_zgierz» yeah... there was a dpkg database lock.... to keep more than one process from using the database at one time
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> martin_zgierz» but adept crashed before it could remove the lock
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> so you had to remove it manually
[20:09] <toker> crashed: virtualbox is a lot lighter on system resources... any reason why that one won't work>
[20:09] <toker> forya
[20:10] <crashed> Ah, perfect. I don't have tough hardware.
[20:10] <crashed> Less than a gig of ram, and less than 2 ghz processor. :(
[20:10] <toker> crashed: you will be happier with virtualbox then.
[20:11] <martin_zgierz> nosrednaekim: so, can i in any way avoid this? or it happen just by coinsidence
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> martin_zgierz» it happens occasionally.... you just gotta remember that command (write it down somewhere)
[20:12] <martin_zgierz> nosrednaekim: ok:) thank's a lot
[20:12] <toker> nosrednaekim: care to repeat that command?  for those of us who missed it?
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> !ubotu
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[20:12] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[20:12] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> the second one ;)
[20:13] <crashed> What repository would virtualbox be in?
[20:13] <crashed> Or should I just download and install it manually.
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> crashed» actually, the open source version is in the gutsy repositories
[20:13] <Jonty> reset
[20:13] <Jonty> part
[20:14] <toker> thnx. nosrednaekim :)
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> crashed» but the non-open source one is better (USB support).... you can get that from the virtualboax repositories
[20:15] <tzanger> good afternoon
[20:15] <KnYaz> hi
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> good afternoon
[20:15] <crashed> I don't use USB.
[20:16] <tzanger> KDE won't start anymore... I log in and it gets a few items into the startup, then crashes and restarts X... now on slackware I could just telinit 3 and startkde manually to see what was going on, but I'm not sure how to do this with Kubuntu... there is no /etc/inittab to tell me what runlevel is multiuser but not X
[20:16] <tzanger> and trying to stop /etc/init.d/x11-common isn't doing it either
[20:16] <tzanger> ahh, kdm stop, that's a good starting point
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> tzanger» its /etc/init.d/kdm
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> tzanger» and check what the .xsession-errors file in your home DIR is saying
[20:17] <ublongata> hey i have libqca2-dev installed, it comes with a .pc file but pkg-config doesn't find it. wtf?
[20:17] <tzanger> reset
[20:17] <tzanger> ps ax
[20:18] <crashed> Alright, I installed virtualbox.
[20:18] <crashed> What would be the next step?
[20:18] <tzanger> fjf
[20:18] <tzanger> sudo kdm
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> crashed» run it :)
[20:21] <tzanger> auuugh
[20:21] <tzanger> it looks like the latest adept update to the kde translations has buggered things up
[20:21] <crashed> Hm, can't seem to uninstall vmware-player. Not sure what it was called.
[20:21] <tzanger> is it possible to revert it?
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> crashed» why uninstall it?
[20:22] <crashed> Using VirtualBox now.
[20:23] <crashed> Oh crap.
[20:23] <crashed> sudo apt-get remove vmware* wasn't a good idea.
[20:23] <crashed> Removing xorg ...
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> !
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> did you stop it?
[20:24] <tzanger> nosrednaekim: is it possible to revert the last adept update?  it's not in my /var/log/dpkg.log though
[20:24] <crashed> It removed xserver-xorg
[20:24] <crashed> And others. :|
[20:24] <crashed> It was too quick.
[20:24] <tzanger> and I have no idea what it was (stuck in command line mode here)
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> crashed» run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[20:25] <crashed> Done.
[20:25] <crashed> Does this mean I have to edit my xorg.conf again?
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> probably not
[20:26] <tzanger> can anyone here tell me what the last update to the kde translations was?  I'm trying to locate the package that I just updated that buggered up my install
[20:27] <playstation3> is there a option to restore system , like on winxp ?
[20:27] <playstation3> i dont wanna make a fresh install again
[20:27] <crashed> apt-cache search virtualbox returns nothing :(
[20:28] <crashed> http://www.smokinglinux.com/virtualbox/virtualbox-window-xp-virtualized-in-seamless-modality-on-ubuntu-gutsy-710
[20:28] <crashed> Ah crap, gutsy.
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> crashed» ah right.... you are on edgy...
[20:28] <martin_zgierz> and one more question - i'm fresh with KDE;) - is there anyway to sort my contacts in Kopete?
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> martin_zgierz» like by alphabetic order?
[20:29] <martin_zgierz> i would prefer to sort by status and then alphabetically
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> martin_zgierz» I think you can.... one moment
[20:31] <tzanger> anyone? can I query dpkg to tell me what the modify date of every package I have is so I can tell what package I just updated that caused KDE to crash out?
[20:31] <martin_zgierz> oh my, i used adept manager to install kubuntu-restricted-extras and this time again a problem occured and now the database is locked:/ i think i don;t have luck using kubuntu;)
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> martin_zgierz» hum... seems you can't... you can in the KDE4 kopete though
[20:32] <tzanger> the update buggered up kdelibs.po
[20:33] <martin_zgierz> nosrednaekim: oh my, i used adept manager to install kubuntu-restricted-extras and this time again a problem occured and now the database is locked:/ i think i don;t have luck using kubuntu;)
[20:33] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[20:33] <rysiek|pl> anybody willing to debug acpi woes a bit? ;)
[20:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> !adeptfix | martin_zgierz
[20:33] <ubotu> martin_zgierz: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> martin_zgierz» I don;t like adept_manager... just use apt-get
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl» such as>
[20:33] <tzanger> hmm
[20:33] <rysiek|pl> !pl | martin_zgierz
[20:33] <ubotu> martin_zgierz: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[20:34] <tzanger> apt-file won't tell me which package has kdelibs.po
[20:34] <martin_zgierz> yeah, i know this solution, but the problem occured two time within 1hour:/
[20:34] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: I am whatch -n 1 -ing /var/log/acpid; I can see all the CPU and button/power events happening and being caught
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: no lid events though
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: BUT the screen gets blanked when I close the lid
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: AND reading /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state gives me "closed" when lid is closed and "open" when it's open
[20:35] <crashed> Hm.
[20:36] <crashed> I just installed and configured virtualbox, anyone know how I'd install XP now?
[20:36] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: so it "kinda works"; but I am unable to use acpi + lid events to put the machine to sleep/hibernate modes
[20:36] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: as acpi doesn't seem to get the events
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl» can't you just read the proc file?
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> crashed» ask in !vbox
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> #vbox
[20:37] <tzanger> anyone?  how to find what package(s) provide kdelibs.po?  apt-file updated but not reporting anything
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> !find kdelibs.po
[20:37] <zzillezz> kaffeine keeps on asking if i want to install the codecs, again and again ...
[20:38] <ubotu> Package/file kdelibs.po does not exist in gutsy
[20:38] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: what do you mean "read the proc file"? I can set up a cronjob every minute to check for lid closed/open by reading /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state files
[20:38] <jhutchins_wk> zzillezz: I don't use kaffiene, because it keeps finding new ways to break.
[20:38] <jhutchins_wk> zzillezz: Use amarok, mplyaer, xine.
[20:38] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: I even can create a shell script and run it in screen to check it every second
[20:38] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: but... it's acpid's job, isn't it?
[20:38] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl» thats what I mean
[20:38] <zzillezz> amarok is only for audio right ?
[20:39] <jhutchins_wk> zzillezz: Right.
[20:39] <jhutchins_wk> mplayer or vlc for video, they "just work".
[20:39] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: you mean "write the shell script/make a cron job" or "it's acpid's job"? :)
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl» both... but when one doesn't work.. use the other ;)
[20:39] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: yeah, but I don't like hacky work-arounds
[20:40] <tzanger> ahh
[20:40] <tzanger> stupid language pack update is not a new problem
[20:40] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: the event IS BEING registered - vide blanked display and /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state
[20:40] <BluesKaj> yup, it totally screwed up my system
[20:40] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: just acpid doesn't seem to get it
[20:41] <BluesKaj> can't login , after the update ...what's the fix ?
[20:41] <crashed> And #vbox is dead :P
[20:41] <tzanger> there, I'm back in
[20:42] <tzanger> language packs... who needs 'em.  :-)
[20:42] <BluesKaj> what's the fix for the lang pak screwup ?
[20:43] <BluesKaj> the loginpage just stalls then cycles on and off, on my setup.
[20:46] <noaXess> i'm searching for aaudio tool like Magix Musik Maker.. something similar under kubuntu?
[20:46] <BluesKaj> tzanger ,i just got here so i didn't see what is required to get back into the desktop, (i'n in windoes right now)
[20:46] <noaXess> !audio
[20:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:46] <Daisuke-Ido> noaXess: no, things in kubuntu tend to be spelled properly :)  seriously though, what does MMM do?
[20:46] <BluesKaj> after the lang pack did my system in
[20:47] <noaXess> Daisuke-Ido: it's a tool to make sound, sample,.. you can put some bass samples and other in diffrent audio tracks..
[20:47] <Daisuke-Ido> hrmm
[20:48] <noaXess> i use audacity for editing audio files..  but need one to make sound..
[20:49] <jhutchins_wk> Lots of midi/synth programs available, many as pluggins to audio editors like audacity.
[20:49] <Daisuke-Ido> http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
[20:49] <noaXess> Daisuke-Ido: http://www.magix.com/us/music-maker/
[20:49] <BluesKaj> any info what that lang pack did to screw things up ?
[20:50] <noaXess> Daisuke-Ido: okay.. i will try it :) thanks
[20:51] <ublongata> hey i have libqca2-dev installed, it comes with a .pc file but pkg-config doesn't find it. wtf?
[20:53] <BluesKaj> ok, no one knows ... goodbye gutsy , it was junky anyway
[20:56] <blinck> hey hello
[20:57] <blinck> allo ya personne
[21:00] <aharoon> where can i find new repos? i didnt change the offecial repos comes wuth kubuntu but i need new repos for new app
[21:00] <mrunagi> aharoon: for WHAT app
[21:00] <aharoon> applications
[21:00] <mrunagi> that didnt answer my question
[21:00] <mrunagi> are you after a specific application?
[21:01] <aharoon> multimedia applications codecs and translations programs
[21:01] <mrunagi> !codec
[21:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:01] <mrunagi> anything specific?
[21:01] <Jahromeo> hi guys for kubuntu are there any other packages than compiz-kde i need to install
[21:02] <mrunagi> Jahromeo: no but dont expect kwin to be stable
[21:02] <tekstacy> is there a limit to the ram kubuntu can use in a desktop?
[21:02] <jussi01> Jahromeo: for compiz?
[21:02] <mrunagi> id recommend fusion-icon and emerald Jahromeo
[21:02] <Jahromeo> yeah mrunagi i know
[21:02] <jussi01> tekstacy: for 32 bit yes
[21:02] <tekstacy> 4gb?
[21:02] <Jahromeo> but what is package name in kde?
[21:02] <Jahromeo> kde-compiz?
[21:02] <jussi01> !compiz | Jahromeo
[21:02] <ubotu> Jahromeo: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:02] <mrunagi> Jahromeo: do you not know how to search apt?
[21:03] <Jahromeo> thanks
[21:03] <Jahromeo> yeah
[21:03] <Jahromeo> but i dont know the package name - presume its compiz-kde
[21:03] <mrunagi> Jahromeo: sudo apt-get install compiz then push tab
[21:03] <Jahromeo> or kde-compiz
[21:03] <aharoon> i want applications for translations i make arabic translations for some movies i want applications allow me to see the movies while i open the subtitle file
[21:03] <Daisuke-Ido> mrunagi: instead of berating him, how about explaining it nicely.
[21:03]  * mrunagi sits with a blank stare
[21:04] <Daisuke-Ido> it's all in how you ask the question :)
[21:04] <Jahromeo> mrunagi i got it thanks
[21:04] <crashed> Is there a hotkey for minimizing all the windows?
[21:04] <mrunagi> ctrl alt d
[21:04] <Jahromeo> ta jussie01
[21:04] <mrunagi> crashed:
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> crashed» you can set one I think
[21:04] <crashed> Oh perfect. Thanks.
[21:05] <tekstacy> mrunagi, thanks, that's handy
[21:06] <aharoon> any suggestions?
[21:09] <aharoon> i want app to make subtitle allow me to play the movie while i translate the subtitle and support for arabic
[21:09] <jussi01> !repeat | aharoon
[21:09] <ubotu> aharoon: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:10] <aharoon> i was clearing my quistion
[21:12] <Arwen> is it just me or is keepassx abandonware?
[21:12] <aharoon> ok where can i find extra repos for kubuntu 7.10
[21:13] <mrunagi> what are 'extra repos'
[21:13] <mrunagi> do those exist?
[21:14] <aharoon> new repos for unofficial applicaions
[21:14] <mrunagi> as far as i know unofficial applications have their own repos
[21:15] <mrunagi> !games
[21:15] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[21:15] <jussi01> aharoon: we dont suggest, or suport such repositories, except for medibuntu
[21:15] <Daisuke-Ido> wine has its own (that is far more up to date than ubuntu's)
[21:15] <Daisuke-Ido> jussi01: i would most certainly recommend wine's budgetdedicated repo.
[21:16] <jussi01> Daisuke-Ido: possibly, Im not sure on that one (ie. not used), but as I said, we dont support it.
[21:17] <aharoon> ok maybe someone could help me with uplink game when i open it isee the curser and hear the sound but nothing else just black screen
[21:17] <mrunagi> do you have correct drivers?
[21:18] <aharoon> driver for what?? my vga is s3prosavag built in no need for driver
[21:18] <mrunagi> then im out of helpful tips
[21:22] <mrunagi> !eyetoy
[21:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eyetoy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:46] <mohbana> hey is the new kde available for ubuntu
[21:46] <spiroo> yes
[21:47] <mohbana> spiroo, is it still in testing or fully released?
[21:48] <ublongata> may as well be testing
[21:50] <mohbana> can anyone else confirm please
[21:51] <ere4si> !kde4
[21:51] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:52] <storbeck> I can't stand kde 4.
[21:52] <spiroo> mohbana: Depends what you mean with fully tested :P
[21:52] <Creationist> How do I get Ubuntu to show a list of available wireless networks?  I used to be able to click the network icon and select a network; then I rebooted.  They are no longer listed.
[21:52] <spiroo> I would wait until the stable release is coming in July. Which means KDE 4.1
[21:53] <storbeck> The menubar is huge and it reminds me too much of Vista.
[21:53] <Arwen> gah, the upgrade failed...
[21:53] <Arwen> f***.... time to reinstall...
[21:53] <mohbana> Creationist, try 'iwlist scanning'
[21:54] <mohbana> storbeck, yes the menu bar should be resizeable
[21:54] <Creationist> mohbana: I need a simple GUI way for this to happen ... I'm setting up my neighbor's laptop for him; he's not going to be willing to use the terminal for something so basic.
[21:54] <Creationist> mohbana: eth1 - No scan results.
[21:54] <mohbana> Creationist, if the wireless card is detected then it doing 'iwlist scanning' should display it
[21:55] <mohbana> Creationist, wlan0 is not shown on that list?
[21:55] <Creationist> mohbana: No... just lo, eth0 and eth1
[21:55] <Creationist> eth1 is the wireless card, though.
[21:56] <mohbana> iwlist scanning eth1, thats strange
[21:57] <mohbana> do you see the nm-applet on your taskbar?
[21:57] <Creationist> mohbana: Well, iwconfig lists eth1 as the wireless card too.  And it worked find until I rebooted.
[21:57] <aharoon> !IcedTea
[21:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icedtea - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:59] <DrX> i can't mount /dev/sda5, dmesg reported "journal inode is deleted" and e2fsck /dev/sda5 reports "Suprblock has an invalid ext3 journal (inode 0)" and I'm stepping outside my comfort zone with all the fixes it suggests... can someone help with this?
[22:00] <storbeck> Creationist: What does iwconfig eth1 say
[22:00] <Creationist> storbeck: IEEE 802.11b/g....... "Broadcom 4318" etc... it's the wireless card.
[22:01] <Creationist> storbeck: Need a pastebin of it?
[22:01] <storbeck> yes
[22:01] <Creationist> Oh wait, I can't... I have no internet on that machine ;)
[22:02] <Creationist> storbeck: What info do you need from it?
[22:02] <storbeck> Does it show the ESSID it's connected to?
[22:02] <Creationist> "off/any"
[22:02] <storbeck> Is that what your router is called?
[22:02] <Creationist> storbeck: Nope.
[22:03] <Creationist> storbeck: I'm trying to avoid having to do this manually (non-gui) because my neighbor is NOT going to be okay having to do that.
[22:03] <storbeck> You're setting this up for your neighbor?
[22:03] <Creationist> storbeck: Last time I started the system it just listed the three networks in range, I picked one, it asked for the key and I was good to go.
[22:03] <Creationist> Yes.
[22:03] <Creationist> It's his laptop.
[22:05] <storbeck> You tried going to knetwork-manager?
[22:05] <Creationist> storbeck: Right... but even manually entering my ESSID and key don't work.
[22:06] <storbeck> Hm, is there a wireless switch on the laptop?
[22:06] <storbeck> There's been a few times where I accidently switched it off.
[22:07] <Creationist> lol yes, there is... one sec
[22:08] <Creationist> Hmm... now it's showing me connected at 86% but I can't ping google.com.  There is no connection.
[22:09] <storbeck> Is it encrypted?
[22:09] <Creationist> storbeck: Well, it hasn't asked me for the passphrase yet.
[22:09] <DrX> any way to undo changes made with e2fsck while it's still running?
[22:09] <Creationist> Is there a way to completely reset it all?
[22:10] <storbeck> I suppose you could uninstall the drivers, uninstall eth1. Then reinstall
[22:11] <storbeck> I'd suggest you set it to ath0 or wifi0 ;)
[22:11] <Creationist> storbeck: It actually is connected to my network, but I don't want my neighbor to be able to do that without having my passphrase...
[22:11] <Creationist> storbeck: Could it have somehow been stored in Ubuntu?
[22:12] <Creationist> storbeck: And I guess my last question would be, how do I set it up so that it automatically connects to HIS wireless network every time he logs in?
[22:12] <loggins> how do you install flash?
[22:12] <storbeck> System -> Administration -> Keyring Manager
[22:13] <Creationist> loggins: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:13] <storbeck> Creationist: When he first chooses the wireless network, that will be his default.
[22:13] <Creationist> storbeck: But does that mean the MY network is now HIS default? ;)
[22:14] <loggins> cool. thx
[22:14] <storbeck> Eh, at first. But he will change it
[22:15] <Creationist> ok... and he won't be able to go back to mine without knowing the password, correct?
[22:15] <DrX> anyone know how to manually undo a few e2fsck changes (I recorded the original values)?
[22:15] <storbeck> As long as you didn't save it, and he doesn't know how to crack, yes.
[22:16] <Creationist> hmm... I don't remember intentionally saving it... don't remember seeing that option.  But okay.  Thanks for your help.
[22:16] <storbeck> np
[22:18] <ubuntu> hi
[22:18] <ubuntu> anyone there for hel?
[22:18] <ubuntu> p
[22:18] <ubuntu> ?
[22:19] <NickPresta> ubuntu, we're here
[22:19] <ubuntu> ok
[22:19] <ubuntu> i want to ask something
[22:19] <NickPresta> ubuntu, shoot
[22:19] <ubuntu> i installed kubuntu now
[22:19] <ubuntu> and
[22:19] <ubuntu> have problems
[22:20] <ubuntu> when open ubuntu and waiting for login
[22:20] <ubuntu> the screen looks like broken tv :S
[22:21] <Prodin> nick?
[22:21] <NickPresta> Prodin,  so you're having graphical problems (distorted display)?
[22:22] <Exilant> Hi, I just encrypted my usb drive (cryptsetup), works so far fine with mount, however i cant mount it from konquis media:/
[22:23] <Prodin> YES
[22:23] <Exilant> there i get shown it as encrzpted device, clicking produces an errorbox: Could not mount device. The reported error was: The drive is encrypted.
[22:23] <Prodin> i see login screen like a tv have problems with anntene
[22:23] <Exilant> anzone knows how to mazbe solve this?
[22:23] <Exilant> happens in gutsy and in hardy
[22:24] <Prodin> nick?
[22:24] <NickPresta> Prodin, do you know which graphics card you have?
[22:24] <Prodin> i have a onboard card
[22:24] <Prodin> on biostar u8668 d
[22:25] <Prodin> 16mb
[22:25] <DrX> anyone know how to manually undo a few e2fsck changes (I recorded the original values)?
[22:25] <Prodin> i heard kubuntu7.10 have problems about graphic?
[22:26] <NickPresta> Prodin, have you ever had a non-distorted display?
[22:26] <Prodin> nope
[22:26] <Prodin> when i try log in after install
[22:26] <Prodin> first time
[22:27] <Prodin> i see a screen distorted
[22:27] <Prodin> any many copy
[22:27] <Prodin> like a analog tv
[22:27] <NickPresta> Prodin, it sounds like you need to reconfigure your display server. Have you ever used the command line before?
[22:28] <Prodin> i know only basic server commannds about linux
[22:28] <Prodin> like ls or cd wget
[22:28] <storbeck> Wow
[22:28] <Prodin> what will i write?
[22:28] <storbeck> What has happened to linux.... people doesn't even know how to use a command line.
[22:29] <storbeck> don't*
[22:29] <Prodin> i use linux at my desktop firstly
[22:29] <Prodin> sorry :S
[22:29] <DrX> does e2fsck commit changes dynamically or at the end?  if you committed changes accidently made to a raw disk image, will that image be suspect/unreliable/unstable or do the changes not affect the raw data?
[22:29] <NickPresta> Prodin, when you get to that distorted screen, press Control + Alt + F1. That should bring you to a tty. Login and such. Then, issue this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:30] <NickPresta> Prodin, follow the instructions (the default values are fine for the most part) but when you choose your display driver, choose vesa.
[22:30] <Prodin> vesa
[22:30] <Prodin> ok
[22:30] <Prodin> this is my display servr?
[22:31] <NickPresta> Prodin, you can actually use which you think will work (be it 'nv' for nvidia, 'ati' for ati, etc). Vesa usually works everywhere
[22:31] <Prodin> thanks nick i will come after try this:=)
[22:31] <Prodin> i am on live cd of ubuntu now
[22:31] <Prodin> ok thanks
[22:31] <NickPresta> Prodin, wait
[22:32] <Prodin> ok
[22:32] <NickPresta> open up a Konsole on the livecd and type in: grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:32] <NickPresta> Prodin, see which driver you're currently using (there should be things like 'kbd', 'mouse', 'etc). Type them out here (the values of the Driver line)
[22:33] <Prodin> driver: kbd
[22:34] <Prodin> driver: mouse
[22:34] <Prodin> driver:savage
[22:34] <NickPresta> Prodin, so the 'savage' driver on the LiveCD work for you (obviously). I would select that driver when you reconfigure your display server. It should work.
[22:34] <Prodin> thanks nick :)
[22:35] <Prodin> byby
[22:35] <NickPresta> bye
[22:36] <Anas> i want to know the differ between sun jdk & icedtea which of thm is better and  faster
[22:36] <evilbug> i have a macbook pro and i followed the instructions on the wiki (  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro ) and after i added the startup command for the touchpad,i get a black screen from ubuntu.nothing will load and i can't go into terminal either.
[22:38] <NickPresta> Anas, as far as I understand it, IcedTea is trying to make OpeenJDK (the free software Sun released recently) usable without relying on non-free components. As for which is better, I would assume the official sun jdk functions better, but I don't have any personal experience with icedtea
[22:39] <storbeck> evilbug, Welcome to a macbook.
[22:40] <evilbug> storbeck- thanks.
[22:41] <Anas> nice ok i want to know is there repos for eclipse? i installed it from synaptic but its old version not the last version and it didnt updated by synaptic update
[22:43] <storbeck> No, Eclipse has it's own update system.
[22:43] <storbeck> It should be somewhere in the help menu.
[22:43] <Anas> i have to update it from eclipse options??
[22:44] <storbeck> Yes.
[22:44] <Anas> ok i get it thanks
[22:44] <nicolah> how do I avoid magnetic border screen in kde ? (no compiz)
[22:44] <storbeck> Magnetic border screen?
[22:45] <nicolah> it won't let me move the window above the top screen limit
[22:45] <Dragnslcr> System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Moving
[22:45] <Dragnslcr> Is probably what you want
[22:47] <Exilant> zes, set border snap yone to none
[22:48] <nicolah> it's set to none but it won't let me move the window above top screen limit either
[22:49] <mrunagi> anyone able to help me troubleshoot why my ntfs drives arent on my desktop anymore
[22:50] <mrunagi> or rather they arent when i first load ubuntu
[22:52] <Exilant> mrunagi: zou can choose which devices to show
[22:52] <Exilant> i never understand the default choices there, too
[22:53] <mrunagi> omg..........
[22:53] <spiroo> Is there any possible chance to resize partiions even if they are mounted at the same time? :D
[22:53] <mrunagi> kubuntu just dropped a bunch of data
[22:53] <mrunagi> i drag and dropped data from one folder to the other and said move.........
[22:53] <mrunagi> but it disappeared!
[22:54] <msirPlanogordyH> hmm
[22:54] <mrunagi> omg this is not funny
[22:54] <mrunagi> where is it
[22:54] <msirPlanogordyH> did you drop it into /dev/null
[22:54] <msirPlanogordyH> ?
[22:54] <mrunagi> i dont have a dev null
[22:54] <mrunagi> im gonna hyperventilate here in a second
[22:54] <msirPlanogordyH> cool.
[22:54] <mrunagi> not cool
[22:54] <mrunagi> how do i undo
[22:55] <mrunagi> where is that data???
[22:55] <eddieftw> whoever is running root and then logged into irc should probably remove themselves from root.:P
[22:55]  * eddieftw points to the userlist
[22:55] <mrunagi> did i just lose all that date?
[22:56] <ere4si> mrunagi, open konsole and type     sudo updatedb && locate "filename"
[22:56] <Exilant> mazbe better use find or kfind
[22:57] <Exilant> updatedb will eventuallz overwrite data
[22:57]  * msirPlanogordyH points out that people wayy overexagerate the danger of ircing as root
[22:57] <mrunagi> find: Rigs: No such file or directory
[22:58] <mrunagi> sonofa!
[22:58] <Exilant> *depending on partition structure and saving from pure databits is painful anzwaz}
[22:58] <miladen> how do i see all the processes in the terminal?
[22:58] <hola> im not able to configure my webcam
[22:58] <Exilant> top
[22:58] <Exilant> or ps aux
[22:59] <abortd> how do i remove a installed program and all of its dependencies?
[22:59] <storbeck> sudo apt-get remove program
[22:59] <jcgkffycs> openoffice doesn't have any Icons on the toolbars, it's all text, is there some extra package I need to install?
[22:59] <Exilant> abortd: rephrase that
[22:59] <abortd> i dont feel there is a way to rephrase it
[22:59] <Exilant> zou don|t want to remove all its dependencies
[23:00] <msirPlanogordyH> hmm
[23:00] <abortd> i do when it is leaving conf files scattered
[23:00] <msirPlanogordyH>   git-svn: Depends: git-core (< 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-.) but 1:1.5.3~rc7-1 is to be installed
[23:00] <msirPlanogordyH> that doesn't look right..
[23:00] <msirPlanogordyH> considdering that I had git-svn installed until just recently
[23:00] <msirPlanogordyH> when ubuntu decided that I wanted to uninstall a bunch of packages without asking me
[23:01] <Exilant> abortd, zou can relz on logs of sznaptic and/or aptitude, or mazbe use deborpan
[23:01] <Exilant> deborphan
[23:01] <msirPlanogordyH> uhh
[23:01] <storbeck> I take it your 'y' doesn't work, Exilant?
[23:01] <msirPlanogordyH> english please?
[23:01] <chairmeleon> hey
[23:02] <chairmeleon> Being a debian user myself, but not too keen on doing all the configuration, I was thinking of putting the latest kubuntu on my friend's laptop. I have two questions though
[23:02] <abortd> lol
[23:02] <storbeck> chairmeleon: Ask away
[23:03] <PRODIM> hi nick?
[23:03] <chairmeleon> Is there any significant performance difference between debian /w KDE and Kubuntu, if anyone knows? And, perhaps most importantly, will there be a clean upgrade path from Gutsy to Hardy?
[23:03] <miladen> how do i see all the processes in the terminal?
[23:03] <Exilant> storbeck: in fact it works... just using the hardy<// cd with the wrong keyboard layout
[23:03] <Exilant> so y and z are swapped
[23:04] <storbeck> Ah
[23:04] <miladen> Im running photoshop in wine and it has frozen how do i close it?
[23:04] <storbeck> chairmeleon: I'm not sure between Debian/KDE and Kubuntu. I've never used Debian. As for a clean upgrade, there should be.
[23:05] <hola> im not able to configure my webcam
[23:05] <Exilant> miladen> use top or ps aux. then close with kill or killall
[23:05] <storbeck> Haha hola, still trying to get it to work?
[23:05] <miladen> how do i use top or ps aux? just write it in?
[23:05] <Exilant> zes
[23:06] <hola> storbeck: i dont what to do ....im tried all
[23:06] <Exilant> top lists those processes demanding most cpu time on top
[23:06] <Exilant> hola> what cam?
[23:06] <PRODIM> nick
[23:06] <chairmeleon> storbeck: I mean, there shouldn
[23:06] <PRODIM> Nick Presta?
[23:06] <storbeck> Haha shouldn't*
[23:06] <storbeck> My mistake.
[23:07] <chairmeleon> *there shouldn't be a major difference since (K)ubuntu is built on debian
[23:07] <PRODIM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333416
[23:07] <PRODIM> this is like my problem
[23:07] <storbeck> Right Ubuntu is built from Debian.
[23:07] <PRODIM> i have the same card
[23:07] <storbeck> But there's some differences.
[23:07] <PRODIM> NickPresta
[23:07] <chairmeleon> what do you guys reckon is the best? building a debian system or tearing a Kubuntu one down ? :D
[23:07] <hola> Exilant: 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[23:07] <PRODIM> anyone there for help m eabout graphics card?
[23:08] <storbeck> chairmeleon: It all depends on what the person wants.
[23:08] <nareshov> Hey, is "preload" a good thing to use on a laptop? http://www.techthrob.com/tech/preload.php
[23:08] <PRODIM> hey?
[23:08] <storbeck> From what I've heard of Debian, it requires more configuring than (K)ubuntu
[23:08] <nareshov> s/Hey/All/
[23:08] <MrJoey> Is it possible to send a signal to badblocks (like SIGUSR1) to find out how far it is?
[23:08] <chairmeleon> storbeck: well he, the intended end user, wants a windows-environment equivalent
[23:09] <chairmeleon> and I figured Ubuntu might be very well suited for that, I haven't ran it since 5.10
[23:09] <storbeck> I'd go for Kubuntu then. Or rather Ubuntu
[23:09] <chairmeleon> Why rather Ubuntu?
[23:09] <PRODIM> NickPresta
[23:09] <ibkanat> I just installed Kubuntu and am having trouble with wifi where may I go to get help? Its a bcm4311 I have had it working in the past.
[23:09] <storbeck> Personally, I think Gnome is more closely related to Windows. Although many will disagree.
[23:09] <Exilant> MrJoey: doesn|t it tell zou that anywaz?
[23:09] <chairmeleon> I have some things i can't quite come to terms with in gnome
[23:09] <storbeck> As opposed to KDE of course.
[23:09] <MrJoey> No
[23:10] <MrJoey> It's just blank
[23:10] <Exilant> and apart from that, it can take a long time.
[23:10] <nareshov> ibkanat: sudo restricted-manager-kde
[23:10] <Exilant> just recentlz waited 7 hours or so
[23:10] <chairmeleon> storbeck: the inability to change the desktop icon text color via gui..that drives me nuts
[23:10] <chairmeleon> otherwise I really like gnome, I prefer GTK looks to QT
[23:10] <hola> Exilant: do you know what can i do?
[23:11] <ibkanat> hmm restricted-manager-kde: command not found
[23:11] <storbeck> Ah, well I use Fluxbox anyway.  Am I right?
[23:12] <^jason> hi can anyone help me?
[23:12] <nareshov> !help > ^jason
[23:12] <Exilant> hola, sorrz, i am vaguelz familiar with the uvc/drivers, not with that camera
[23:12] <storbeck> You're right.
[23:12] <^jason> ive got kubuntu but cant get on the internet with it
[23:12] <npurciful> hey someone type my name
[23:12] <ibkanat> hmm same..... in the hardware drivers manager I turned it on
[23:12] <ere4si> npurciful,
[23:12] <MrJoey> Crud, I sent SIGUSR1 to badblocks and lost the terminal program, but badblocks is still running.  How do I find out what it is putting out?
[23:13] <nareshov> ibkanat: doesn't it ask you to fetch the firmware?
[23:13] <storbeck> I've been using Linux for years. Went from RedHat to Slackware to Gentoo to Ubuntu
[23:13] <chairmeleon> storbeck: so, what did you start out with, or at least use prior to Ubuntu?
[23:13] <nareshov> heh, another Gentoo -> Ubuntu person :D
[23:13] <ibkanat> it did fetch.... and the wlan0 shows in the kdenetwork manager
[23:13] <ibkanat> but the the wireless light wont come on
[23:13] <^jason> can anyone share any light on this?
[23:14] <chairmeleon> storbeck: oh, that's a funny upgrade path
[23:14] <storbeck> Heh, yeah
[23:14] <chairmeleon> I've always been a very no-frills kinda guy, from the first moment I settled in Linux, rather..freaked out by preconfiguration
[23:14] <chairmeleon> so what made you choose Ubuntu rather than the pretty unconfigured Gentoo?
[23:15] <^jason> anyone?
[23:15] <storbeck> Eh, I like trying them all out.
[23:15] <nareshov> ^jason: run 'sudo kcmshell kcm_knetworkconfmodule"
[23:15] <Arwen> is there a guide to setting up my own apt repository?
[23:16] <chairmeleon> storbeck: Alright..well..haven't Ubuntu felt sluggish compared to other distros?
[23:16] <storbeck> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:16] <chairmeleon> I kinda got that impression when trying it over at a friend
[23:16] <^jason> nareshov: what does that do?
[23:16] <storbeck> chairmeleon: Not really. I use fluxbox though
[23:16] <storbeck> It's rather minimal.
[23:16] <storbeck> errr
[23:16] <storbeck> Fluxbuntu*
[23:16] <nareshov> ^jason: opens up the network configuration dialogue
[23:16] <MrJoey> Is there a way to get the stdout/stderr of a running program when the terminal has been lost?
[23:17] <chairmeleon> storbeck: well I suppose I'll give dear old *buntu a run for it's money :D
[23:17] <MrJoey> (the program is still running)
[23:17] <storbeck> (K)buntu is pretty plug-n-play
[23:17] <ibkanat> nareshov is open the network interfaces but when I click on wlan0 enable it goes on then off real fast
[23:18] <storbeck> If it doesn't work out of the box, there's probably a GUI to set it up. Heh
[23:18] <chairmeleon> storbeck: yeah, I sometimes miss that...I feel a bit schizophrenic
[23:18] <PRODIM> NickPresta
[23:18] <ibkanat> nareshov; wont enable
[23:19] <chairmeleon> I'm thrilled both by minutious control over everything, and lazy plug-and-play
[23:19] <PRODIM> anyone can help me about graphic problems
[23:19] <nareshov> ibkanat: when did you feed the firmware?
[23:19] <ibkanat> before the last reboot
[23:19] <nareshov> hmm
[23:19] <PRODIM> i must use xp i think...
[23:20] <PRODIM> bcause
[23:20] <ibkanat> this is a piece of work.. AMD turion x2
[23:20] <nareshov> I remember doing the same on my friends laptop and it worked peacefully >_>
[23:20] <nareshov> PRODIM: what happened?
[23:20] <ibkanat> they just fixed some of the bugs in the 2.6.24
[23:20] <PRODIM> hey
[23:20] <PRODIM> thanks
[23:20] <nareshov> ibkanat: you're using hardy?
[23:20] <PRODIM> i have problems about kubuntu
[23:20] <ibkanat> yeah
[23:20] <PRODIM> I installed it
[23:20] <PRODIM> and than when reboot and see firstly login screen
[23:21] <ibkanat> I tried the ndiswrapper earlier but messed things up pretty good
[23:21] <PRODIM> a distorted windows
[23:21] <PRODIM> than ask at here
[23:21] <nareshov> ibkanat: not sure about hardy + bcm thing, might have to google a bit or better yet, post on the forums/mailing-lists
[23:21] <PRODIM> nickpresta says reconfigure your graphics server
[23:21] <PRODIM> i tried savage
[23:21] <PRODIM> than tried vesa
[23:21] <jussi01> ibkanat: hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[23:22] <ibkanat> ok thanks for your help.... is there anything I could grep to find out if its installed right?
[23:22] <PRODIM> when use savage every thing is same
[23:22] <PRODIM> and try vesa i see only a black screen
[23:22] <PRODIM> and can you help me nareshow
[23:22] <PRODIM> and can you help me nareshov
[23:22] <mrunagi> i dont understand strigi search
[23:22] <nareshov> PRODIM: what does 'lspci | grep -i graph" say?
[23:22] <nareshov> mrunagi: what do you not understand?
[23:23] <mrunagi> how to use it
[23:23] <nareshov> oh
[23:23] <nareshov> well, click on K-Menu > Strigi Search
[23:23] <mrunagi> mu
[23:24] <nareshov> and click on "status"
[23:24] <mrunagi> i click search and it doesnt do anything
[23:24] <PRODIM> i write lspci | grep -i graph at command line but nothing happend
[23:24] <nareshov> mrunagi: start indexing/daemon first
[23:24] <nareshov> and wait till it builds an index
[23:24] <PRODIM> nareshov i write lspci
[23:25] <mrunagi> this doesnt make sense
[23:25] <nareshov> PRODIM: 'lspci | grep -i vga'
[23:25] <nareshov> mrunagi: give me two minutes
[23:25] <spiroo> is it possible to interlace the picture in kaffeine. it looks like hell.
[23:26] <ibkanat> nareshov is there anything that I can grep to find out if my network card is installed right?
[23:26] <PRODIM> VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[23:26] <mrunagi> is there not a dvd emulator for kubuntu?
[23:26] <PRODIM> nareshov VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[23:27] <PRODIM> nareshov: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[23:27] <storbeck> dvd emulator?
[23:27] <mrunagi> emulates a dvd drive for dvd images
[23:27] <nareshov> mrunagi: take a look at this http://home.iitk.ac.in/~nareshov/strigi_running.png Do you get a window like that?
[23:27] <storbeck> Never heard of that.
[23:27] <mrunagi> yup nareshov
[23:28] <SlimeyPete> mrunagi: you can just mount an iso as a drive if that's what you mean
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» don't think you need that for linux
[23:28] <mrunagi> its not an iso
[23:28] <mrunagi> its an mds
[23:28] <nareshov> mrunagi: Is the status "indexing" ?
[23:28] <mrunagi> yes
[23:28] <PRODIM> nareshov: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[23:28] <nareshov> you see the "search" link on the top-left?
[23:28] <mrunagi> 184mb
[23:28] <mrunagi> 272mb
[23:28] <nareshov> PRODIM: one moment
[23:28] <mrunagi> yup
[23:29] <nareshov> ok, now click on the search link and search something
[23:29] <mrunagi> sigh
[23:29] <mrunagi> im just trying to find a directory
[23:29] <nareshov> hehe
[23:29] <mrunagi> !mds
[23:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:30] <mrunagi> =(
[23:30] <storbeck> mrunagi: locate file
[23:30] <mrunagi> nothing
[23:30] <mrunagi> interesting
[23:30] <mrunagi> seems that i have to flip over to windows for yet something else
[23:30]  * mrunagi screams in frustration
[23:30] <nareshov> mrunagi: 'sudo updatedb' first
[23:31] <PRODIM> nareshov: ok
[23:32] <mrunagi> blah
[23:32] <mrunagi> !emulator
[23:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:33] <mrunagi> x((
[23:33] <kornieff> Just did apt-get upgrade and kde fails to startwith the following error message:  "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation." Any ideas how to fix it?
[23:33] <Anas> is there way to start slide show for .ppt without opening open office
[23:33] <mrunagi> i do some funky stuff with my pc apparently
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> Anas» nope
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> kornieff» you using any translations?
[23:34] <Anas> ok thx
[23:35] <kornieff> nosrednaekim: I think so
[23:35] <nareshov> PRODIM: you're using kubuntu gutsy, yes?
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> kornieff» then you need to uninstall the translation package
[23:35] <kornieff> nosrednaekim: How can I do it?
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> kornieff» go into failsafe mode
[23:36] <PRODIM> hmm