[00:21] <xyndth> hello.  how am I enable/disable VPN after it has been saved?
[00:31] <nantou> how do I uncompress an .ape file?
[03:22] <Cheri703> When I try to run x11vnc, I get an error message saying it can't find the display "XOpenDisplay("") failed. // Trying again with XAUTHLOCALHOSTNAME=localhost ... // *** XOpenDisplay failed. No -display or DISPLAY. // *** Trying ":0" in 4 seconds.
[03:22] <Cheri703> I am running xubuntu 12.10 on that machine, fresh install a few days ago
[03:23] <Cheri703> x11vnc was working on vanilla ubuntu before the reinstallation
[03:28] <Unit193> What's the output of  ps aux | grep auth | sed -n 's/.*X\ \(.*\)\ -core.*/\1/p'  ?
[03:29] <Cheri703> uhm...one sec
[03:29] <Cheri703> :0
[03:30] <Cheri703> for the record, it gives the same error if I run it with -find instead of -display :0
[03:31] <Unit193> Is user is logged into the system, not sitting at the login screen?
[03:31] <Cheri703> is there a terminal command to check for additional drivers?
[03:31] <Cheri703> it is logged in
[03:31] <Cheri703> I'm ssh'ing from the other room, but I could go out to it if I have to
[03:31]  * Cheri703 doesn't have a comfortable place to sit out there
[03:32] <Unit193> jockey-text is the application.
[03:32] <Cheri703> for drivers?
[03:32] <Unit193> Yep.
[03:33] <Cheri703> hmm...that says I should install jockey-common, which wants to install nvidia stuff, which I don't need
[03:34]  * Cheri703 installs anyway
[03:35] <Unit193> That package installs ubuntu-drivers-common, actually, and comes with Xubuntu (and most other Ubuntus) by default...
[03:36] <Cheri703> hmm...apparently it didn't come by default?
[03:36] <Cheri703> because it wasn't installed
[03:36] <Cheri703> and it's saying I have nothing to install, which is fine, I just wanted to check
[03:38] <Cheri703> wasn't sure if a missing driver might be behind the lack of display stuff
[03:39] <Unit193> Other than jockey, you can also use  ubuntu-drivers list {devices|list}}
[03:39] <Cheri703> well, would that possibly be related to the x11vnc stuff? because that's my main priority
[03:40] <Cheri703> it did not like that command
[03:40] <Unit193> Not likely.  You could also try a method that starts x11vnc with lightdm
[03:40] <Cheri703> hmm
[03:40] <Cheri703> how do I do that?
[03:41] <Cheri703> I was trying this: http://babilonline.blogspot.com/2012/06/ubuntu-1204how-to-use-vnc-even-at-login.html
[03:41] <Cheri703> which is what worked the other day on vanilla ubuntu
[03:41] <Cheri703> but is not working now on xubuntu 12.10
[03:42] <Unit193> Pretty sure http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/ should work, but I've used your method. >_>
[03:43] <Cheri703> at the moment I'm not even worrying about vnc before login, because I just want vnc AFTER login at least!
[03:44] <Cheri703> I am logged in to the computer, I'm fine to ssh in, but any and all attempts to connect via vnc fail. even when I tried vino
[03:44] <Cheri703> do I need to open ports or something? Is there some basic step missing?
[03:46] <holstein> Cheri703: vnc was broken for me.. i just forward x, or use teamviewer... i find vnc pretty "meh" anyways. and i never really tracked down what was going on
[03:46] <Unit193> Shouldn't be, so if you enter  x11vnc -display :0   as your logged in user, what's the full tail end of the output?
[03:46] <Cheri703> I was going to try teamviewer, but it kept crashing on me when I'd try to set a password on it >_<
[03:46]  * Unit193 has used X forwarding, but like VNC for speed.
[03:47] <Cheri703> -_-
[03:47] <Cheri703> so it works if I don't have a .Xauthority file involved
[03:47] <Cheri703> which...concerning
[03:47] <Cheri703> so I need to set a password
[03:47] <Cheri703> thanks Unit193!
[03:48] <Unit193> Sorry, I thought you had tried that command...
[03:48] <Cheri703> I'd tried it a variety of other ways because silly me, I'd think it'd need something other than just "hey computer, let me in!"
[03:49] <Cheri703> >_< thanks
[03:49] <Unit193> It would appear I use x11vnc -safer -forever   with an exported display and no pass.
[03:50] <Unit193> Well, 'welcome.
[06:35] <LJSeinfeld> How do you set up file sharing in Xubuntu?  I installed it from the Software Center… but I don't see any options to set it up anywhere
[07:48] <XATRIX> I see cupsd -f server is running up on my laptop
[07:48] <XATRIX> How can i make - on demand ?
[07:49] <XATRIX> It should start while i connect USB printer/or trigger Printing
[08:44] <xubuntu925> What is the easiest way to set a python script to run on startup?
[08:45] <xubuntu925> Also, I run this (http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=E7x8bczb) command to change screen resolution, but it disappears after reboot.
[08:45] <xubuntu925> I mean, it goes back to 1024x768.
[12:52] <DemonWitch> where can i get opencl headers from?
[12:53] <TheSheep> apt-get install opencl-dev   probably
[12:54] <TheSheep> or libopencl-dev
[12:58] <DemonWitch> TheDrums,
[12:58] <DemonWitch> TheSheep,
[12:58] <DemonWitch> i am trying to build this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khronos-opencl-headers/1.2-2012.04.18a-1
[12:58] <DemonWitch> its tar.gz. how can i build it?
[13:01] <TheSheep> you don't build header files
[13:01] <Lachezar> Hey all... Is there an alternative to xscreensaver that shows the keyboard layout and *-lock states?
[13:02] <DemonWitch> how do i install a deb file
[13:02] <TheSheep> DemonWitch: double-click it
[13:02] <Lachezar> I end up entering the wrong password numerous times before I succeed in choosing the right keyboard layout and turning off the CapsLock and NumLock.
[13:03] <GridCube> ?
[13:05] <DemonWitch> where can i get opencl-icd
[13:05] <DemonWitch> its requested by a package
[13:06] <TheSheep> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[13:07] <TheSheep> or install it with synaptic
[14:53] <xubuntu065> hello
[15:19] <dion2389> good morning guys
[15:26] <GridCube> good
[15:39] <mij> I left xubuntu 12.10 live cd running on a laptop and the screen locked. Now it asks for a password, and I can't find it on the docs
[15:39] <baizon> mij: try to just hit "enter" :)
[15:40] <mij> baizon: that was my first try :) my second was "xubuntu". No luck either
[15:41] <knome> ubuntu and ubuntu?
[15:41] <knome> (i mean, the password would just "ubuntu")
[15:42] <mij> actually, now that I look it closely it says "assuming null password means cancel" on the upper left corner
[15:43] <mij> ok, I think it's an I/O problem
[15:44] <mij> ok that was it, a problem with the USB memory stick
[15:44] <mij> thanks for your time ;)
[15:46] <baizon> np :)
[16:51] <Victor___> Hi all
[16:52] <ScorchedMuffin> hi
[16:55] <Victor___> That is my first time here but I'm really surprised. Today I installed the recommended updates from my Xubuntu OS. It warned me that it was a partial update, but nothing seemed wrong. The update was the new version of Libreoffice (4.0) and now, Writer has a graphic error when I scroll the document. Is there a known issue? It seems a problem with my old graphic card (ATI 9550 AGP), so, should I downgrade Libreoffice? Thanks in advan
[16:57] <holstein> Victor___: did you add a PPA?
[16:58] <Victor___> I'm not sure. I'll check it.
[17:00] <Victor___> I had http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu precise main in "Software origins"
[17:00] <holstein> Victor___: open a terminal... type "sudo apt-get update" and hit return.. share any error messages
[17:00] <holstein> !paste
[17:01] <holstein> then, if no errors, type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:03] <Victor___> no errors with apt-get update, and 0 archives updated, installed, erased and not updated after dist-upgrade
[17:04] <holstein> Victor___: so, you are up to date it seems... you want to open something like synaptic and find libre office and step it down?
[17:06] <holstein> seems like this is the PPA you are using https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa which looks good
[17:07] <Victor___> So it is a compatibility problem with my hardware it seems? Under 180% zoom scrolling all is correct, but with 190% zoom and upwards, there is the graphic fail.
[17:08] <Victor___> If the update was correct and the PPA is good... That only could be my old pc XD
[17:09] <Victor___> I will remain a few days with that vesion of Libreoffice in order to see if a new update solves the problem. If this is not solved, I will downgrade, I think....
[17:09] <GridCube> or some incompatibility somewhere, do a bugreport Victor___
[17:09] <Victor___> Where could I do the bugreport GRidcube?
[17:10] <GridCube> Victor___, open a terminal and typo ubuntu-bug libreoffice
[17:10] <GridCube> lol typo on type XD
[17:11] <Victor___> and that's all? Or should I describe the problem?
[17:11] <GridCube> in any case, it will gather information of your system and libreoffice and try to send it to launchpad, if you have an account it will do so
[17:11] <GridCube> there you will be able to add all the information you want and screenshots and whatnot
[17:12] <Victor___> Ah ok. It said that it was not an official packet, so it could'nt send the bugreport...
[17:14] <holstein> Victor___: step down to the repo version and test
[17:16] <Victor___> Ok Holstein. How I can step down to the repo version? With Synaptic? Should I erase the PPAs I had on Software Origins in addition?
[17:19] <holstein> Victor___: i would start by opening synaptic, and stepping down to the repo version. and test
[17:23] <Victor___> To step down I need to select all libreoffice elements and mark them for complete uninstall? Is this method correct?
[17:24] <emmanuel0791> I am looking for a free screen reader that works with Xubuntu 12.10
[17:25] <emmanuel0791> Does one exist??
[17:25] <holstein> Victor___: i would start by stepping down whatever you find and feel comfortable.. and test.. and know how to recover from what you are doing
[17:26] <holstein> emmanuel0791: i would start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Screen_Reader
[17:27] <SuperLag> Any issues going on with the daily installer?
[17:28] <emmanuel0791> holstein: Thank you very much i did not know that Orca would work with it
[17:28] <SuperLag> I'm at the "Preparing to install Xubuntu" screen, have both boxes (Download updates while installing, and Install this third-party software) checked... and then I click Continue... and I get a spinner, but it never goes any further.
[17:28] <holstein> SuperLag: for 13.04? try #ubuntu+1 ..i would expect issues with any non-stable release of anything, and get 12.10 if you are wanting stable
[17:29] <holstein> emmanuel0791: any screen reader that ubuntu/debian can use should work easily in xubuntu.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[17:30] <emmanuel0791> holstein: I saw in Google that XFCE had a major problem with it but the entries were from 2009 or 2010 so i guess now many issues have been fixed
[17:31] <holstein> emmanuel0791: it = orca? i havent tried it, but there are plenty of options if you have issues
[17:33] <emmanuel0791> holstein: Yes i mean Orca...also on the website of it and at Wikipedia it did not state that Xubuntu would work with it... i will try though :P
[17:33] <holstein> emmanuel0791: does orca state ubuntu support? xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[17:35] <emmanuel0791> holstein: I know it is Ubuntu + Xfce but it only said it would support GNOME and i think Xfce is not GNOME.. but i am glad that it works with it then :) Another question: There is no way to disable the "debconf " windows that pop in for a second during installations right?
[17:37] <holstein> emmanuel0791: i would probably install from the command line or a place where popups wouldnt be an issue
[17:39] <emmanuel0791> holstein: Well it is so easy through the Software-Center =/ but i guess i will have to do so then...
[17:41] <GridCube> emmanuel0791, you might want to enable gnome services on xfce, that might make orca work on xubuntu
[17:42] <GridCube> as far as i knew the only problem was that orca does not work with webkit, so chromium or midori did not worked with orca, however firefox should, but... it wasnt working. thats the last i heard of orca on xubuntu last year
[17:42] <emmanuel0791> GridCube: How do i enable them and will they need much more performance than the usual Xubuntu?
[17:43] <GridCube> not really, you enable them on >settings >session and startup >Last tab(advanced), first checkbox
[17:45] <emmanuel0791> GridCube: Okay thanks i will do so in a few minutes and tell if it worked after
[18:13] <emmanuel0791> GridCube, Okay i installed it now but where is it ? o.o
[18:13] <GridCube> alt-f2  gnome-orca
[18:13] <GridCube> i dont think it has a menu entry
[18:14] <emmanuel0791> GridCube, it says not found
[18:14] <GridCube> maybe its just orca?
[18:14] <emmanuel0791> GridCube, I installed via sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca
[18:16] <GridCube> emmanuel0791, i think you will be more pleased using a distro targeted for accesibility like http://www.sonar-project.org/
[18:16] <GridCube> im afraid that in the current state of orca and xfce there is not much else you could do
[18:19] <emmanuel0791> GridCube, Thank you for the link.. which version should i choose? i386?
[18:20] <holstein> emmanuel0791: i386 is safe
[18:22] <emmanuel0791> holstein, Alright... and it is ISO file so i need to burn it??
[18:22] <GridCube> yes, or make an usb using unetbootin
[18:24] <GridCube> all images are bigger than 700mb so a cd wont fit it
[18:26] <GridCube> emmanuel0791, for my information, have you tried simply running orca on the app launcher?
[18:28] <emmanuel0791> GridCube, Yes i typed the 2 names in the app-launcher but it said " not found " and i think i will need to try to install orca somehow else since i do not have a burner or USB stick now
[18:44] <emmanuel0791> GridCube, I installed it now via Software-Center and it works it even has a menu-entry under tools
[18:44] <GridCube> o:
[18:44] <GridCube> excellent
[18:44] <xubuntu054> hello
[18:45] <xubuntu054> is anyone here know how to install cubuntu using cds
[18:46] <GridCube> cubuntu?
[19:06] <xubuntu375> Hello all, require yr help pls. Using latest version Xubuntu. Have ended session and selected unbuntu session although not installed. screen is now blank. no menu, no context menues on right mouse button. could anybody help?
[19:20] <xubuntu375> Hello all, require yr help pls. Using latest version Xubuntu. Have ended session and selected unbuntu session although not installed. screen is now blank. no menu, no context menues on right mouse button. could anybody help?
[19:40] <frojnd_> Hi there
[19:40] <frojnd_> What is default username and password for live cd 12.10?
[19:41] <frojnd_> I logout and I now I need to login back
[19:57] <David-A> frojnd_: live cd password is empty (no password)
[20:03] <Victor___> Thanks a lot for the help here. Bye
[20:11] <frojnd_> David-A: what's the username?
[20:11] <frojnd_> also, if I attach hard drive after I already boot into live xubutu 12.10, is it possible to install xubuntu after it?
[20:11] <frojnd_> I seem to have big problems
[20:12] <frojnd_> it just won't install it after I choose next at the very beginning
[20:12] <frojnd_> not that it would freeze or anything it just loops on some stuff
[20:13] <David-A> frojnd_: I don't remember exactly, but username is probably xubuntu or ubuntu, anyway, it shows the username on the login screen.
[20:13] <frojnd_> David-A: aha thanx
[20:23] <xubuntu909> how do i install programs from a tar.bz?
[20:23] <holstein> xubuntu909: usually it just depends on what is in there, and what it needs.. and there is usually a readme file
[20:24] <xubuntu909> okay thanks.
[20:24] <knome> xubuntu909, you should always use the official repositories if possible. what are you trying to install?
[20:24] <holstein> !checkinstall
[20:25] <holstein> ^^ i like that as well, since you can more easily remove an application
[20:28] <xubuntu909> knome: im trying to install drivers for a samsung printer, ML-1675
[20:34] <frojnd_> yes!
[20:34] <frojnd_> got the bios pass :D
[20:39] <xubuntu909> Im trying to install printer drivers from a tar.gz, can anyone help me?
[20:41] <baizon> xubuntu909: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25961/how-to-install-a-tar-gz-or-tar-bz2-file
[20:44] <David-A> xubuntu909: have you searched for "samsung printer" in the software center or synaptic? did not that driver work?
[20:44] <xubuntu909> David-A: i tryed the software center but not synaptic
[20:44] <xubuntu909> never heard of synaptic
[20:47] <David-A> xubuntu909: (synaptic is another package manager, showing more technical info, if software center didn't find any, synaptic won't either, probably)
[20:48] <xubuntu909> k thanks
[21:00] <David-A> xubuntu909: if you have downloaded the tar file I found at samsungs site, you are NOT to do the "configure, make, make install" procedure linked to above.
[21:01] <xubuntu909> okay. what do i do then, cause thats what i have David-A
[21:02] <David-A> xubuntu909: you first need to extract its content. either "tar xf <filename>" in a terminal or "Open with archive manager" in Thunar and then extract.
[21:03] <xubuntu909> okay David-A
[21:04] <xubuntu909> then?
[21:05] <David-A> xubuntu909: what exactly is the name of the tar you downloaded?
[21:05] <yell0w> i'm on xubuntu 12.04 amd64. X is not working. I dropped to console and try startx and got "xinit: unable to connect to X server: no such file or directory"
[21:05] <yell0w> any suggestions ?
[21:06] <xubuntu909> David-A: smartpanel_0.92.tar.gz
[21:11] <David-A> xubuntu909: I dont know what samsung terminology is but i would gess UnifiedLinuxDriver is the driver and Smartpanel is a fancy user interface. usually the driver is nessessary and the gui is optional. do you have the driver too?
[21:11] <xubuntu909> no ill grab that quick
[21:14] <xubuntu909> David-A: got it & extracted
[21:14] <David-A> xubuntu909: when you have extracted UnifiedLinuxDriver there is a subfolder "cdroot" with a subfolder "Linux", and when extracted Smartpanel there is yet a subfolder "smartpanel". Look into the file "Installer.htm" for instructions, or if you are brave, just dive in and run "install.sh".
[21:16] <David-A> xubuntu909: (well, better read the instructions first, so you dont blame me if things go wrong)
[21:17] <xubuntu909> David-A: it says in need CUPS, SANE and ghostscfript
[21:19] <David-A> xubuntu909: they are all in the repositories (software center, synaptic or apt-get) (some maybe already installed)
[21:20] <xubuntu909> okay also so you know what im reading David-A ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588790/
[21:26] <xubuntu909> David-A: how do i run the install script? kind of a noob still
[21:28] <David-A> xubuntu909: strangely enuff that doc does not tell how to start the install program. but the "autorun" starts "install.sh" in the "Linux" folder. in a terminal, go to the "Linux" folder and issue command: ./install.sh
[21:30] <David-A> xubuntu909: make sure the prerequisite packages are installed first. (if you are not sure, the install program will check that too, the doc says)
[21:31] <xubuntu909> i tryed to run it and got this :http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588828/
[21:32] <xubuntu909> David-A: ^^
[21:35] <David-A> xubuntu909: thats an old version of the libstdc++. do you have "libstdc++5" in softw center or synaptic (or apt-get), try install it, then start install.sh again
[21:39] <David-A> xubuntu909: wait, the message says "libstdc++.so.5 (gcc 3.0.x .. 3.3.x) not found, install..."
[21:39] <David-A> (note the "...")
[21:39] <xubuntu909> i got it :D
[21:41] <David-A> xubuntu909: then it installs a copy of libstdc++5 provided by their driver package.
[21:41] <David-A> xubuntu909: obviously, the install process must be run with admin rights. throw in a sudo.
[21:43] <xubuntu909> David-A thank you for all this help
[21:44] <Hans-Martin> hi folks, I've installed xubuntu 12.04 on a machine and I'm trying to change the login screen resolution. The recipes on the net recommend editing xorg.conf. However, there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11 :-(
[21:44] <Hans-Martin> I don't grok the new x server configuration structure yet...
[21:45] <frojnd_> Hm
[21:46] <frojnd_> I just tried to install xubuntu and I got Errno 30 Read-only file system: .... and then a note that probably my hd is damaged
[21:46] <frojnd_> can you suggest me any tools for isolating bad secotrs of disk?
[21:46] <frojnd_> within xubuntu?
[21:47] <jcfp> Hans-Martin: if you create an xorg.conf there yourself it will be used
[21:48] <Hans-Martin> ah ok
[21:48] <David-A> frojnd_: bad sectors are isolated automatically if detected while write. if detected while read, data is already lost and cannot be circumvent automatically.
[21:51] <David-A> frojnd_: is the Disk Utility available on the live cd? if so, what does it say about the health of the disk?
[21:52] <frojnd_> David-A: where it should be?
[21:52] <frojnd_> disk utility in xubuntu 12.10 live?
[21:53] <frojnd_> usually*
[21:54] <David-A> frojnd_: maybe the System submenu
[21:54] <Hans-Martin> jcfp: that seems to have worked, thx!
[21:55] <frojnd_> David-A: no nothing there
[21:55] <frojnd_> what's the package name?
[21:55] <frojnd_> I can install it
[21:57] <David-A> frojnd_: i'm not sure what the name is now. will search for "disk utility" in software center find it?
[22:00] <frojnd_> David-A: yeah, is this gui?
[22:01] <frojnd_> found gnome-disk-utility and it says it's already installed but when I do alt+f2 and type in gnome-disk-utility it won't execute, nor will it autocomplete when typing in terminal..
[22:01] <David-A> frojnd_: should be, what does the screenshot look like?
[22:02] <David-A> frojnd_: the command used to be "palimpsest", (maybe still is)
[22:08] <frojnd_> David-A: it's gnome-disks
[22:08] <frojnd_> David-A: heh, it says disk is OK 48 bad sectors :)
[22:08] <frojnd_> if I only knew how to isolate them...
[22:09] <frojnd_> I would create a partition where those disks are and that would be it
[22:12] <David-A> frojnd_: do you need to save/keep data from the disk? there is a command "badblocks" to find bad block, with an option it will write all blocks, and bad blocks will then be isolated automatically.
[22:13] <frojnd_> no I don't need data
[22:13] <David-A> frojnd_: alternatively, there is usually an option to check the whole partition when you format it.
[22:14] <frojnd_> mkfs.ext4 ?
[22:14] <frojnd_> I mean mkfs?
[22:21] <David-A> frojnd_: if you want an ext4 "mkfs.ext4" would be easier than "mkfs".
[22:27] <frojnd_> yeah yeah
[22:27] <frojnd_> you mentioned to check the whole parition when you format it
[22:27] <frojnd_> what did you have in mind?
[22:31] <David-A> frojnd_: see "man mkfs.ext4" the -c option
[23:08] <n-iCe> What are the advantages of xubuntu over ubuntu?
[23:10] <knome> n-iCe, what do you need from a system?
[23:10] <n-iCe> performance
[23:10] <knome> is that more important than any features or userfriendliness?
[23:11] <n-iCe> well, userfriendly is also needed
[23:11] <n-iCe> But maybe not good looking
[23:11] <n-iCe> I just use the browser, movies, office
[23:11] <n-iCe> I was a Debian user for over 6 years
[23:11] <n-iCe> Just moved to Ubuntu yesterday, not sure I like Unity, etc.
[23:13] <David-A> n-iCe: xubuntu is quite user friendly in my opinion, and can be tweaked to be quite pretty too. (for a really new newbe maybe ubuntu is still a little easier)
[23:13] <Slash0mega> i used the live cd to install xubuntu along side windows, but now i can not boot into windows....
[23:14] <knome> n-iCe, you got to find the balance you need. xubuntu is lighter from ubuntu, but there are even lighter systems.
[23:15] <n-iCe> knome: lighter? which ones?
[23:15] <knome> n-iCe, lubuntu, for example; it's not as userfriendly in all places and might lack some features you need. as i said, it's all about balance.
[23:16] <knome> n-iCe, depenging on your system, you might not even need to free more resources you can with xubuntu (or any other flavor/distro)
[23:21] <Slash0mega> I need help, i just installed xubuntu along side windows with the live cd, but now i can not boot into windows....
[23:22] <knome> !patience | Slash0mega
[23:27] <GridCube> Slash0mega, open a terminal and type >> sudo update-grub <<
[23:28] <Slash0mega> ok
[23:34] <Slash0mega> thank you, that got me the menu item i need.
[23:41] <GridCube> Slash0mega, :)
[23:45] <n-iCe> Well, I'm going to install xubunut
[23:45] <n-iCe> xubuntu
[23:46] <GridCube> :D
[23:46] <David-A> n-iCe: nice. you make room for distro hopping?
[23:47] <n-iCe> chan?
[23:48] <n-iCe> I'm booting on xubuntu, brb
[23:50] <n-iCe> Im on xbuntu
[23:51] <n-iCe> not sure  I like the maclookslike botom bar
[23:51] <knome> you can always remove it if you don't like it
[23:57] <n-iCe> Does xubuntu 12.10 has the same files last updates like ubuntu?
[23:58] <knome> n-iCe, yes, your settings and files are kept intact. backups are always encouraged though.
[23:59] <n-iCe> Ok, installed, I need to reboot


[10:23] <mamarley> ricotz: I uploaded 367.57 for Xenial, Trusty, and Precise and a new build of 370.28 for all Ubuntu versions.  All of these contain the fix for not failing if update-initramfs is not installed and the Provides for CUDA 8.
[10:23] <mamarley> https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages
[10:55] <ricotz> mamarley, great, thanks! will take a look later


[08:58]  * cking goes on a systemtap adventure
[09:45] <apw> cking, to anywhere fun ?
[09:46] <cking> apw, the path of torment
[09:46] <apw> heh depending on ones predilictions that could be fun i guess
[09:46] <cking> nope, it's never fun
[11:31]  * apw goes splish
[12:36] <apw> *splash*
[13:11] <jamespage> apw, are you aware of any problems with the latest kernel in quantal?  I upgraded this morning and 0 peripherals - no USB, network, HDMI etc. etc...
[13:11] <apw> jamespage, not heard of anything like that no
[13:12] <jamespage> apw, well reverting to the previous one fixed me up
[13:12] <jamespage> I'll report a bug then
[13:14] <nhm> Can linux-tools-common be created with make-kpkg?
[13:14] <apw> jamespage, did you get that via normal updates?  and do you have the extras pacakge
[13:14] <apw> nhm, no idea
[13:14] <apw> nhm, no idea never tried
[13:15] <jamespage> apw, no extras - just straight linux-image-3.5.0-3-generic
[13:15] <nhm> apw: ok, thanks.  I'm trying to figure out how to make it for 3.4/3.5.  There was a patch on lkml a while back for deb-pkg that I tried, but it seems like it'll need work to function correctly.
[13:15] <nhm> apw: any idea how it's done "normally"?
[13:15] <apw> nhm, for what the mainline builds ?
[13:16] <nhm> apw: yeah.  I saw some examples for debian, but no idea if Ubuntu does the same thing.
[13:17] <apw> nhm, our tools packages differ i am sure, we currently generate ours manually in the ubuntu packaging
[13:18] <nhm> Ok.  I guess I'll have to disect them.  We create custom kernels for ceph from github and I want to start packaging perf with it, but so far there doesn't seem to be any real easy/standard way to get debs for it.
[13:19] <apw> no userspace integration in the kernel sucks
[13:21] <nhm> apw: Any ideas if there are any docs or examples I should follow regarding following the mainline build procedure?
[13:22] <apw> how we build our debs is documented vaguly in the wiki
[13:24] <nhm> ok, I'll look there then.  Thanks for all the help. :)
[13:29] <jamespage> apw, think I must have had some sort of upgrade issue - had a right mix of packages installed with reference to kernel
[13:30] <apw> oh hmmm, apt-get install -f (or whatever it is?)
[13:32] <jamespage> yep
[14:35]  * henrix will be back in ~20min
[15:10] <cking> made me laugh: http://havewefoundthehiggsbosonyet.org/
[15:24] <stack_> Hi, I am compiling linux kernel 2.6.36-4, but while performing make I get this error: No rule to make target `net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ecn.c', needed by `net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ecn.o
[15:24] <stack_> How can I overcome this ?
[16:04]  * herton -> lunch
[16:13]  * ppisati -> gym
[18:17]  * cking thinks he's figured out a reliably workaround to reading the fluke meter reliably event when it gets screwed up during a sessone of sample readings.