[04:00] <hiexpo> dr_Willis, ok i figured it out justcompiled it myself and instead of calling make install >  called make altinstall    worked   :)
[04:00] <LIGHT3MIS0R> what is the lenguaje in this canal, inglish or spanish?
[04:00] <Steve132> This link seemes to imply that the max partition size of an ext4 system is 1 Exibyte
[04:00] <Steve132> how do I actually get a system that large?
[04:00] <rww> LIGHT3MIS0R: #ubuntu is English, #ubuntu-es is Spanish
[04:00] <ninjaneo> inglish pero yo hablo un poco espanol
[04:00] <dr_Willis> lots of money
[04:00] <Steve132> I know that seems like an absurd question, but I'm currently sysadmining a system with a 26 TB hard drive
[04:00] <kaushal> Hi
[04:00] <LIGHT3MIS0R> ok
[04:01] <Herbs> steve132 the only way would be a VM on  a NAS
[04:01] <hiexpo> dr_Willis, that way it don't over write  versions of python already installed
[04:02] <kaushal> when i do Super + W key in 11.04 and then how do i move around those 4 windows ?
[04:02] <walllable> what is the best channel on borknet?
[04:02] <kaushal> I mean for example select a specific window
[04:02] <Steve132> So, I actually have a physical hard drive
[04:02] <walllable> gtg bye
[04:02] <dr_Willis> just double click to select i think
[04:02] <Steve132> that large
[04:02] <hiexpo> kaushal, are you talking about the four desktops   / workstations ?
[04:03] <phasegen> Why would my laptop suddenly start asking me to unlock the keyring three times???
[04:03] <kaushal> four applications
[04:03] <kaushal> in a single workspace
[04:04] <kaushal> dr_Willis: I mean using shortkey key
[04:04] <dr_Willis> its using comiz plgins kaushal - check the ccsm tool and settings I guess.
[04:04] <kaushal> like press Super + W and then ?
[04:05] <dr_Willis> i just alttab a lot. :)
[04:05] <kaushal> ok
[04:05] <hiexpo> kaushal, you arrow keys
[04:05] <dr_Willis> play with the gui.. :)
[04:06] <dr_Willis> compiz can be so complex and full of easiallyoverlooked little details
[04:06] <hiexpo> yeppers
[04:07] <kaushal> hiexpo: Thanks
[04:07] <kaushal> it worked
[04:07] <kaushal> yes its the same for Workspace too
[04:07] <hiexpo> after pressing super +w  you will seeall your windows have shrunk and you can move between them with the arrow keys than enter to select
[04:07] <kaushal> its excellent
[04:08] <Jordan_U> Steve132: A normal install should work with a drive that large. You might run into bugs in the installer but I actually think it will handle it without problems. (unless you're asking because you did have problems :)
[04:08] <kaushal> hiexpo: any recommended applications for 11.04
[04:08] <dr_Willis>  you can click on one, and drag it to the other workspaces I recall also..
[04:08] <Herbs> you can actually get drives that big?
[04:08] <hiexpo> kaushal, i don't use 11.04 sorry i use 10.04 lts
[04:08] <dr_Willis> or was that   during desktop selection.. :) i forget.
[04:09] <dr_Willis> i basically use Lubuntu these days :)
[04:09] <hiexpo> dr_Willis, that will move them to differant workstations
[04:09] <dr_Willis> diferent desktoos
[04:09] <dr_Willis> desktops
[04:10] <hiexpo> yes
[04:10] <kaushal> hiexpo: how do i move for example Terminal from one desktop to other ?
[04:10] <dr_Willis> unity can be just to goofy to  'learn by exploring' at  times..
[04:10] <kaushal> I mean switch workspaces
[04:11] <dr_Willis> kaushal you can get a layout of all the desktops and you can spome how click/drag  to the other workspace.
[04:11] <kaushal> dr_Willis: I mean shortcut keys
[04:11] <dr_Willis> thers also compiz options to let you drag windows to the side and change desktops taking the windows with you
[04:11] <hiexpo> kaushal, you can either just click on it and drag it there or you can right click on it and select move to another workspace
[04:11] <dr_Willis> check ccsm's shortcuts settings.
[04:11] <Herbs> not used gnome3 yet but never liked any other desktops think Ill be running in level 3 in the future
[04:11] <izinucs> kaushal: super (windows key) S .. then just drag it.. not sure if right mouse clicking the title bar and "Move to" still works.
[04:11] <dr_Willis> theres also some guides/wallpapers out with unity key-shortcuts
[04:12] <kaushal> izinucs: I mean able to do with using mouse
[04:12] <kaushal> using keypad ?
[04:13] <hiexpo> i have a big conky running and compiz at boot and am still only using about 250Mbs of ram after boot up
[04:13] <izinucs> kaushal: only one command with the keyboard the rest with the mouse..
[04:14] <kaushal> izinucs: lets say i do Super + S and then move one apps from workspace 1 to 2 using shortcut keys ?
[04:14] <dr_Willis> unity seems to push the use of keyboard shortcuts  a little too much.
[04:14] <dr_Willis> i wonder if it will ever get more focused on potential tablet ussage.
[04:14] <izinucs> kaushal: with the keyboard I don't know.. but you can drag with mouse..
[04:15] <kaushal> izinucs: so there is a slight delay
[04:15] <hiexpo> kaushal, you do not have to do that just   left click mouse and hold it down and drag it
[04:15] <kaushal> so instead keyboard are pretty fast
[04:15] <kaushal> hiexpo: i did it already and it worked :)
[04:16] <izinucs> kaushal: or right mouse click the title bar of the window and "Move to" ..
[04:16] <kaushal> let me try
[04:16] <joshua__> holaaa
[04:16] <joshua__> buenas noches
[04:16] <h00k> !es | joshua__
[04:17] <kaushal> nope
[04:17] <kaushal> anyway thanks
[04:17] <kaushal> I need to play around with it
[04:17]  * cheapie is now accepting help requests
[04:18] <hiexpo> cheapie, ask your ?
[04:18] <izinucs> cheapie: can you help me find someone that needs help with what I can answer?
[04:18] <hiexpo> oops
[04:18] <grrizd72> register ra11376
[04:18] <cheapie> izinucs: What's wrong?
[04:19] <izinucs> cheapie: nothing.. was looking for help to find someone that needs help with what I know about.
[04:19] <bullgard4> grrizd72: Did you forget a '/' at the beginning?
[04:19] <cheapie> izinucs: Oops. I made the same mistake as hiexpo just did...
[04:19] <grrizd72> guess so
[04:19] <izinucs> LOL
[04:21] <grrizd72> Brand new to irc - do I get a msg back form Nickserv?
[04:22] <cheapie> grrizd72: ...wut?
[04:22] <Logan_> !register | grrizd72
[04:23] <dr_Willis>  -----> /msg nickserv help
[04:23] <cheapie> This is boring. Join, quit, join, quit. It's all that people ever seem to do...
[04:24] <dr_Willis> ignore the part/join messages...
[04:25] <rsh> :D
[04:25]  * cheapie yawns and continues listening to stepper motors going "eeeeeeeeee ee ee ee ee eeeeeeee"
[04:26] <iFrenzy> rationalOgre: you still in here?
[04:26] <websiteguy> hey can anyone help me with my ubuntu vps
[04:26] <cheapie> websiteguy: What's wrong?
[04:26] <dr_Willis> help in what way?
[04:27] <websiteguy> this is the first time i get a vps and i'm not sure how to setup my dns
[04:27] <websiteguy> i've got hyper cp and Kloxo cp running
[04:27] <Herbs> websiteguy you have a cp such as Plesk ?
[04:27] <dr_Willis> !VPS
[04:27]  * cheapie wonders what a VPS is... Maybe I'm not the best person to help with that...
[04:28] <rationalOgre> iFrenzy: I am
[04:28] <dr_Willis> i wonder at teh varity of vps's and how this channel cen even hope to support them all.
[04:28] <iFrenzy> rationalOgre: this is weird, I have 3 hdmi ports on my tv, I moved it to the second port and now it works
[04:28] <puguh> hallo
[04:28] <websiteguy> do i just add a dns templet ?
[04:29] <dr_Willis> iFrenzy:  i have a hdmi/dvi port for my tv to use wih the pc.
[04:29] <Herbs> !bind | websiteguy
[04:29] <websiteguy> ?
[04:29] <websiteguy> bind ?
[04:29] <Herbs> is the dns service
[04:29] <puguh> heheheh
[04:29] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why tsclient; i   ubuntu-desktop Recommends tsclient'.Why does ubuntu-desktop recommend tsclient?
[04:29] <iFrenzy> dr_willis: I have 3, but when i plug it into 1 i get a black screen was having problems with it all night
[04:29] <cheapie> OK. I have a few questions. Question 1: How do I make VirtualBox stop eating my partition tables?
[04:30] <rationalOgre> iFrenzy: Confusing. I vaguely remember hearing that HDMI had some type of encryption scheme with it. I wonder if each port identifies uniquely.
[04:30] <websiteguy> all i see is add dns templet
[04:30] <websiteguy> thats it
[04:30] <dr_Willis> vbox  shouldent reallybe used to access real pysical hard drives. the docs give big warnings about it.
[04:30] <rationalOgre> That or it was different enough that ubuntu decided it was a new 'screen'
[04:31] <iFrenzy> rationalOgre: I just plugged it back into the first one and now that one works too
[04:31] <cheapie> dr_Willis: OK. That explains that. Now, question 2: How do I make a particular hard drive always get a certain device name (sda, sdb, etc.)?
[04:31] <ccd> Is there another way to tell what version of ubuntu you are using other than "cat /etc/issue" ?
[04:31] <iFrenzy> rationalOgre: anyway though man Thanks for the help, my wife wants to see the new pirates movie so we're going to go watch that and hopefully I can have a little fun haha
[04:32] <Herbs> cheapie use expandable storage for the hd instead of fixed size then it will only use what is stored
[04:32] <websiteguy> =\
[04:32] <cheapie> Herbs: ...what?
[04:32] <dr_Willis> use the fstab and device UUID or label - and the /dev/sdXX wouldent matter
[04:32] <Herbs> for virtualbox when you create the hd for the vm
[04:32] <Guest41260> !mint
[04:33] <cheapie> dr_Willis: Is there a way to use the device UUID with VBox raw disk access?
[04:33] <dr_Willis> i would have to say - check the vbox manual.
[04:33] <Herbs> cheapie never mind miss read what you asked
[04:33]  * lefty|afk is back (gone 05:39:05)
[04:33] <dr_Willis> I never use raw disk access for real hds
[04:34] <ccd> I followed the upgrade instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Intrepid and the upgrade happened.. and I rebooted... but /etc/issue still says it's 8.10
[04:34] <lefty|afk> Okay can someone help me real quick!? I got my HP Pavillion on ubuntu but I need the wireless drivers so I can connect to the Internet
[04:34] <cheapie> dr_Willis: In that case, question 3: Is it possible to make update-grub not probe a specific disk? It takes forever to probe my Seagate ST-157A-1.
[04:34] <lefty|afk> Okay can someone help me real quick!?  USB or builtin wifi card?
[04:36] <lefty|afk> builtin
[04:36] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, built in
[04:37] <rationalOgre> open a terminal and type (without quotes) "lspci | grep wireless"
[04:37] <cheapie> lefty|afk: Step 1: Smash your computer. Step 2: Find the wireless NIC. Step 3: Find what model it is. Step 4: Build a time machine. Step 5: Travel back in time to when your computer is un-smashed.
[04:37] <lefty|afk> cheapie, lol
[04:37] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, ok lemme do it on the other computer
[04:38] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: actually "lspci | grep -i wireless" might be better
[04:38] <Herbs> pr lspci | grep Ethernet
[04:38] <cheapie> Now, will anybody help me with my update-grub issues?
[04:38] <Herbs> or*
[04:38] <hiexpo> lshw -C network
[04:39] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, I can't find the terminal
[04:39] <geeksmith> cheapie: I'm not sure, but if you remove its entry in /boot/grub/device.map it may no longer probe it
[04:39] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: Applications > Accesories > Terminal
[04:39] <lefty|afk> aha ok
[04:40] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, sudo 1st right ?\
[04:40] <cheapie> geeksmith: It's sort of hard to remove a line from a nonexistent file.
[04:40] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: Naw, you can run this without sudo
[04:40] <Herbs> you dont need sudo for lspci
[04:40] <ascheel> Is there a way to reduce the Ubuntu menu (Applications, Places,System) so it only displays as a single icon to click and splits off to those menus only after clicked?
[04:40] <amero> anyone is familiar with checkinstall here? am i supposed to export the new bin path everytime i install with checkinstall?
[04:40] <rationalOgre> though if you do lshw you may need to run sudo first
[04:40] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, nothing comes up
[04:41] <Herbs> try | grep Ethernet lefty|afk
[04:41] <hiexpo> amero, yes what about checkinstall
[04:41] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: Did you run the second command I gave? "lspci | grep -i wireless"
[04:41] <Herbs> my wireless adapter only shows up using Ethernet
[04:41] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, yes
[04:41] <rationalOgre> Herbs: Interesting. Never seen that before.
[04:42] <amero> hiexpo: ./usr/local/nginx/sbin/nginx
[04:42] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: then use this "lshw -C network | less"
[04:42] <hiexpo> amero, what
[04:43] <Logan_> ascheel: add  "Main menu" to the panel
[04:43] <ascheel> Logan_: trying now, thank you.
[04:43] <rationalOgre> Look for "description: Wireless interface"
[04:43] <Logan_> no problem
[04:43] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, got broadcom
[04:43] <ascheel> Logan_: You are awesome...
[04:44] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: Yuck. You're in for fun.
[04:44] <lefty|afk> and that means ?
[04:44] <Logan_> ascheel: :)
[04:44] <hiexpo> hehe
[04:44] <amero> hiexpo: why it places the bin in it's own dir name?
[04:44] <geeksmith> cheapie: you could make one with "sudo grub-mkdevicemap", but like I said I'm not sure this file determines which drives get probed
[04:44] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, that means ?
[04:44] <ascheel> Logan_: That makes a netbook SO much more usable.
[04:44] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: It means broadcom wireless adapters are notorious for having bad support on Ubuntu (and linux in general)
[04:44] <hiexpo> amero, are you talking about checkinstall
[04:44] <Logan_> ascheel: haha, glad to hear it :)
[04:45] <amero> hiexpo: ofc
[04:45] <nick> ?
[04:45] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: Your easiest method is going to be to learn how to use ndiswrapper and run the windows drivers in linux.
[04:45] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, i had the netbook that im using now have the same issue
[04:45] <lefty|afk> but then i installed a driver and it apparently worked
[04:45] <geeksmith>  lefty|afk: There is a light at the end of the tunnel, but it might be a train.  Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:45] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: sometimes it does, it's a crapshoot.
[04:46] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, what does that mean ?
[04:46] <hiexpo> yep that light may be a train   >  wreck
[04:46] <cheapie> geeksmith: I think you just accidentally solved a different problem (about the drives changing places). I'll see if VBox likes "/dev/disk/by-id/ata-Seagate_Technology_ST157A_29087998".
[04:47] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, what does that mean ?
[04:47] <lefty|afk> rationalOgre, what does that mean ?
[04:48] <ascheel> lefty|afk: he means that setting up Broadcom wireless setups is a PITA
[04:48] <geeksmith> cheapie: I don't know if that means I'm really good or really ungood, but I hope it helps in some way!
[04:48] <lefty|afk> ascheel, thanks
[04:48] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: It means you're going to have alot of difficulty getting the wireless to work easily.
[04:48] <rationalOgre> Or really at all.
[04:48] <rsh> lol @ accidental soln
[04:49] <hiexpo> means   go to ebay and order a alfausb card
[04:49] <rationalOgre> lefty|afk: Just start googling for "ubuntu (your version number here) broadcom wireless setup"
[04:49] <cheapie> geeksmith: Yep. VBox likes it! Now I won't end up with my installation of Ubuntu trying to run inside of itself every time I reboot.
[04:49] <puff> ps
[04:50] <cheapie> geeksmith: Also, back when I had to mess with the VMDK file to make it work, VBox liked to eat my partition tables. Hopefully it won't do that now.
[04:50] <geeksmith> lefty|afk: There is a how-to on ndiswrapper with broadcom here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:52] <geeksmith> cheapie: awesome!  I'm not sure why this file wasn't already there.  I assume that making a device map would be part of the standard install, but sounds like you're on the right track now.  Does its existence prevent the drive probing?
[04:52] <Trfsrfr>   i give up for the night...
[04:53] <izinucs> Is there a tool in the repos that I can break apart a multi page scan that ended up in a gif file?  after that I can use convert to move them to a pdf
[04:53] <lefty|afk> geeksmith, rationalOgre  ; thanks for the help but I have to call it a night ! thanks though I will come tomorrow or another day
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: imagemagic maybe
[04:53] <cheapie> geeksmith: Nope. It doesn't seem to be taking as long now though. I can live with it now, as it only takes a few seconds after I created and edited the device map. Also, it sees the OS on my ST-157A-1 now. However, that drive is on a controller card with no BIOS, so it can't be booted normally. I'm going to see if GRUB will boot it. I'll be right back.
[04:54] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: convert is part of that.. but .. well... I don't know.. I'll google IM
[04:55] <geeksmith> izinucs: you could use gimp to cut it up
[04:57] <cheapie> geeksmith: Well, the GRUB menu broke now.
[04:58] <hiexpo> izinucs, whatwas it a printed web page
[04:58] <ccd> Anyone know where I can get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-proposed/main/dist-upgrader-all/0.111.8/jaunty.tar.gz ? the original is 404... need it to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04
[04:59] <cheapie> ccd: Have you checked the old releases server?
[04:59] <cheapie> geeksmith: Hello?
[04:59] <ccd> cheapie, poking around now...
[04:59] <dr_Willis> !eol
[04:59] <kockstand> my unity bar crashed today on 2 different machines
[04:59] <geeksmith> cheapie: how so?
[04:59] <geeksmith> cheapie: did you run "update-grub" after making the device map?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> ccd: I recommend you use the alternate ISO and you should be ok
[05:00] <kockstand> at first the icons disappeared, so I logged out then back in and the bar itself is gone
[05:00] <ccd> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ dies not even have a jaunty folder....
[05:00] <cheapie> geeksmith: My monitor says "Frequency out of range". I'm running Oneiric, if that helps. As for update-grub, yes, I ran that.
[05:01] <ccd> ActionParsnip, to go from 8.10 to 9.04?
[05:01] <Diamondcite> cheapie: Sounds like X was set to use a frequency which is higher than your monitor supports?
[05:01] <izinucs> hiexpo: no it was a scan to gif.. PITA if you know what I mean.
[05:01] <cheapie> Diamondcite: I'm talking about the GRUB menu.
[05:01] <kaushal> is startup applications available in 11.04 ?
[05:02] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why tsclient; i   ubuntu-desktop Recommends tsclient'.Why does ubuntu-desktop recommend tsclient?
[05:02] <izinucs> geeksmith: saving each layer as a separate file?
[05:02] <Diamondcite> cheapie: Err sorry.. how about the vga= option?
[05:02] <nit-wit> kaushal, yes
[05:02] <cheapie> Diamondcite: It worked fine until a power surge fried my video card and I had to switch to integrated video.
[05:02] <geeksmith> cheapie: that's bizarre...making a device map simply identifies the drives for convenience sake
[05:02] <kaushal> nit-wit: ok
[05:02] <cheapie> Diamondcite: vga= option to what?
[05:02] <geeksmith> izinucs: you could do it that way, or create new image files with the desired size, then paste the relevant chunks into the new files
[05:03] <kaushal> nit-wit: please guide ?
[05:03] <Diamondcite> cheapie: I believe it sets the graphical display method for grub if it had to do any graphics..
[05:03] <kaushal> I have installed google desktop on 11.04 How do i make it available after bootup ?
[05:03] <cheapie> Diamondcite: I can't even see the GRUB menu...
[05:03] <izinucs> geeksmith: I've got about 30 pages to go through.. that sounds tedious.. I'm hoping to find a faster option to break them apart
[05:04] <nugz_> wow is it just me or is us.archive.ubuntu.com in the repos (natty) slow as hell -- my connection is fine everywhere else
[05:04] <nit-wit> kaushal, I'm in oneiric right now can't seem to find it here, I'm sure iot is natty though.
[05:04] <nit-wit> *t
[05:04] <nit-wit> *it
[05:04] <geeksmith> cheapie: in /etc/default/grub do you have an entry for GRUB_GFXMODE ?
[05:04] <dr_Willis> google desktop is just the fancy google widgits right?
[05:05] <geeksmith> izinucs: you're right, it's a bit tedious.  Layers would work, but I'm no gimp expert.  Maybe somebody else has a more automated way to do it.
[05:06] <nugz_> sometimes i'm pulling 15kB/s, sometimes 300kB/s (very rarely), but mainly ~500B/s
[05:06] <cheapie> geeksmith: Yes, but commented. (#GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480)
[05:06] <geeksmith> cheapie: or in /boot/grub/grub.cfg any lines that say vga= ?
[05:06] <dr_Willis> you do not normally edit grub.cfg byhand.
[05:07] <lynx`> Shizzle nizzle telefizzle
[05:07] <DrManhattan> ubuntu.com is not coming up for me
[05:07] <geeksmith> dr_Willis: right, but you can grep it by hand to see the derived file ;~)
[05:07] <FishFace> cheapie: Even if you hold down shift button while booting up you dont see it?
[05:07] <cheapie> FishFace: Nope.
[05:07] <FishFace> :o\
[05:07] <DrManhattan> is ubuntu.com down for everyone or is it just me
[05:08] <cheapie> FishFace: It tries to show it, but fails.
[05:08] <nugz_> DrManhattan: its coming up for me, but the repos for me are slow as hellllll
[05:08] <DrManhattan> wtf
[05:08] <mrdeb> hi, DrManhattan
[05:08] <nit-wit> kaushal, I switched back to natty you find t it the mean time/
[05:08] <nit-wit> *it in
[05:08] <DrManhattan> hi mrdeb - have we met?
[05:09] <cheapie> DrManhattan: The connection timed out when I tried to access it.
[05:09] <hiexpo> hmm getting a net split
[05:09] <DrManhattan> cheapie, ok - at least it isnt me
[05:09] <geeksmith> cheapie: i have to run, best of luck...I'll check back later if possible
[05:09] <cheapie> As for my GRUB issue, I ran "export MAKE_GRUB_WORK_RIGHT_FOR_ONCE="TRUE"". Should I try it now?
[05:09]  * geeksmith is going to help put kids down for bed...g'night, all!
[05:10] <CodeZombie> something up w/ ubuntu apt servers?
[05:10] <DrManhattan> so what is the long term support release of ubuntu 10?
[05:10] <mrdeb> DrManhattan: two year cycle
[05:10] <hiexpo> no freenode
[05:10] <DrManhattan> gnome 3 and unity are both a disaster for me
[05:10] <dr_Willis> ive rarely had grub issues. :) but i have taught my self lilo, syslinux, grub1 and grub2 over the yeras..
[05:10] <shingen> wow, empathy sucks for irc :P
[05:11] <hiexpo> yup
[05:11] <DrManhattan> mrdeb, i meant 10.04 10.10. what
[05:11] <cheapie> !classic | DrManhattan
[05:11] <hiexpo> pidgin is good or i like xchat myself
[05:12] <DrManhattan> yeah I didn't have such good results with 11.04
[05:12] <DrManhattan> is Ubuntu classic REALLY gnome 2?
[05:12] <dr_Willis> its not the old gnome.. its jusgt similer
[05:13] <DrManhattan> yeah, no thanks. G3 aint ready for prime time.
[05:13] <Mathuin> When will Weyland ship?
[05:13] <CodeZombie> hmm, can anyone else ping <IP_ADDRESS>? ( us.archive.ubuntu.com )
[05:13]  * cheapie decides to try something...
[05:13] <cheapiephp> It works!
[05:13] <dr_Willis> i dont think weyland is near ready for primetime either. :)
[05:14] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:14] <Mathuin> Perhaps Mister Shuttleworth will then move the window controls to the bottom. :-)
[05:14] <nugz_> CodeZombie: no
[05:14] <dr_Willis> he will movce them to the mddle of the window. where they are easier to get to.
[05:15] <Mathuin> Ah, where users can bang their head into them.
[05:15] <CodeZombie> nugz_, thanks
[05:15] <CodeZombie> wanted to make sure it wasn't just me
[05:15] <dr_Willis> just replace them with hotkeys
[05:15] <nugz_> CodeZombie: trying to update now using them; however, and is slow as dog hell
[05:17] <vertigeaux> have any recent updates broken unity for anyone else?
[05:17] <shingen__> vertigeaux: not I...
[05:17] <Propel> what program do you guys use to grab multiple screen shots from a video?
[05:17] <madprops> anybody knows a way to download songs off myspace?
[05:18] <Propel> videodownload helper, madprops
[05:18] <vertigeaux> shingen_, happened to me today on 2 different machines
[05:18] <Propel> firefox addon
[05:18] <Propel> it should sniff out the mp3 URL and then you can DL it
[05:18] <CodeZombie> damn, seems like ubuntu.com itself is down
[05:18] <madprops> are you sure it works with myspace?
[05:19] <CodeZombie> gah, I finally feel like being productive and the entire system dies
[05:19] <rww> CodeZombie: no it isn't
[05:19] <Herbs> ubuntu.com working fine for me
[05:19] <CodeZombie> hmm
[05:19] <nugz_> CodeZombie: its down for DrManhattan too but working for me
[05:19] <Herbs> Im in th UK
[05:19] <redpuman> hello everybody, i have a network problem with 11.04
[05:19] <Mathuin> Hmm.  I'm hanging here at Connecting to ubuntu.com...
[05:19] <CodeZombie> my ISP has been kindof flaky lately
[05:19] <CodeZombie> probably it
[05:19] <Mathuin> (Portland, OR)
[05:19] <DrManhattan> w-t-f
[05:19] <marco_vv> is ubuntu.com down? it works fine here
[05:19] <Propel> sorry madprops
[05:19] <Propel> no longer works :/
[05:20] <madprops> :/
[05:20] <DrManhattan> ok so 11.04 uses gnome 2 for Ubuntu classic?
[05:20] <foot-odor> can anyone check alternativeto.net too see if its down?
[05:20] <madprops> myspace sucks, won't even let me download my own songs
[05:20] <Propel> lol
[05:21] <Toph2> foot-odor,,, HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
[05:21] <redpuman> can 11.04 see win7 shares?
[05:21] <foot-odor> Toph2, thanks
[05:21] <vertigeaux> how can unity break on 2 of my machines (one desktop one laptop) on the same day, and this isn't a widespread thing?
[05:22] <DrManhattan> geez, it isnt a good sign when a distro's website goes down
[05:22] <DrManhattan> maybe im just ASSUMING Ubuntu's website runs on Ubuntu though
[05:22] <celthunder> redpuman: why not?
[05:22] <celthunder> foot-odor: sup mate
[05:22] <Herbs> ubuntu.com is not down
[05:22] <celthunder> foot-odor: good to see you're still awake
[05:22] <nugz_> its up for some, down for others
[05:22] <foot-odor> celthunder, i'ts 7 am, of course i'm awake :)
[05:23] <nugz_> us repos barely responding
[05:23] <Herbs> so thats a route issue
[05:23] <CodeZombie> DrManhattan, it has to be some sort of routing issue across parts of the net
[05:23] <foot-odor> celthunder, pm?
[05:23] <dr_Willis> severe thunderstorms across the USA could be power outages
[05:23] <Herbs> a backbone somwhere will be down
[05:23] <CodeZombie> hooray for redundancy
[05:23] <celthunder> foot-odor: you don't have to ask :)
[05:23] <CodeZombie> oh wait... there isn't any!
[05:23] <redpuman> when i try open win7 share it fail with error
[05:24] <celthunder> redpuman: what's the error
[05:24] <redpuman> samba is installed and workgroup is correct
[05:24] <ubuser> can someone tell me if theres a driver scan or anyway i can get my computer up-to-date, i did a hardware test and i didnt see the video it showed
[05:24] <shingen__> wow, I'm surprised that xchat has much more features than xchat-gnome... xchat-gnome is almost handi-enabled
[05:24] <ubuser> i am currently on ubuntu 8.04
[05:24] <CodeZombie> I guess I could proxy through my linode for now
[05:25] <CodeZombie> would be slow as hell though
[05:25] <ubuser> can someone tell me how to get my video drivers and my sound working on ubuntu 8.04
[05:25] <dr_Willis> most peole hate xcaht-gnome its very limited
[05:25] <dr_Willis> ubuser:  whats your video chipset?
[05:26] <ubuser> idk, its a 256mg winfast px8600
[05:26] <redpuman> Error failed to get a list of available resources on the server Select a different view and try again
[05:26] <shingen_> dr_Willis: yeah, I couldn't remember which had more features, so I installed both and have both running
[05:26] <nugz_> ubuser: lspci | grep vga
[05:26] <ubuser> i checked alsamixer also and its all turned up
[05:27] <dr_Willis> ubuser:  why are you using that old a release?
[05:27] <ubuser> nothing came up
[05:27] <nit-wit> Ubuntu 8.04 reached end-of-life on May 12 2011
[05:27] <Herbs> redpuman that sounds like an issue with the windows share are you able to connect from any other boxes
[05:27] <ubuser> i have finally found a version that worked
[05:27] <ubuser> i have been updating slowly
[05:27] <nugz_> ubuser: did you make sure alsamixer wasnt muted? lot of times is by default
[05:27] <ubuser> yes i did jus said that
[05:27] <dr_Willis> So you are saying that a new 11.04 install dosent work?
[05:27] <nugz_> ubuser: lspci | grep VGA
[05:27] <nugz_> try cap
[05:28] <mrdeb> is anyone using ubuntu lucid
[05:28] <ubuser> i burned the cd it kept crashing, i tried the minis both 64 and 32
[05:28] <dr_Willis> lots of people use lucid. :)
[05:28] <ubuser> i am on a 64 bit or w/e and im using 8.04 ubuntu -.-
[05:28] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why tsclient; i   ubuntu-desktop Recommends tsclient'.Warum empfiehlt ubuntu-desktop die Installation von tsclient?
[05:28] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why tsclient; i   ubuntu-desktop Recommends tsclient'. Why does ubuntu-desktop recommend tsclient?
[05:28] <dr_Willis> !info tsclient
[05:29] <rww> bullgard4: because it's included in the default installation and is a GUI program
[05:29] <ubuser> http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/YK6
[05:29] <rww> and isn't essential, hence the recommend instead of depend
[05:29] <ubuser> http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/YK6 my grep stats
[05:29] <nugz_> http
[05:30] <bullgard4> rww: Ah! I understand this reasoning. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[05:30] <untitledwiz> in an if statement in a bash script what is the -z flag testing?
[05:30] <ubuser> can anyone help?
[05:31] <ubuser> whats it sayin guys?
[05:31] <ubuser> can someone help me install video drivers im new to linux
[05:31] <rww> untitledwiz: according to Google, it tests if the length of a string is zero. So "" would be true and "example" would be false.
[05:31] <redpuman> i see win7 pc bu i can't see win7 shares
[05:32] <Herbs> you have an nvidia gfx just fgo to system > administratiuon hardware drivers
[05:32] <dr_Willis> i would suggest on focusing on gettin a newer release going ubuser.
[05:32] <ubuser> i did and i clicked it, but i cant increase the resolution after that
[05:32] <redpuman> only if file -> connetc
[05:32] <GrouchySmurf> redpuman: http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Windows7
[05:32] <ubuser> i guess i will, i jus canceled the download cuz i seen the java download
[05:32] <_dwbear75> my screen pixelates when using the display tool to set dual head with separate screens, on natty narwhal.. is this a nomodereset issue?
[05:33] <ubuser> took me a minute to do that lol
[05:33] <GrouchySmurf> redpuman: did you read that doc before coming here?
[05:33] <_dwbear75> I'm on an hp nc6400 with the ati radeon chipset
[05:33] <redpuman> GrouchySmurf: thanks i'll try it evening
[05:33] <ubuser> how can i get sound working tho?
[05:33] <dr_Willis> _dwbear75:  some of those settings require a X restart - whats your video chipset? why are you using  seperate screens
[05:34] <Herbs> ubuser have you updated your kernel?
[05:34] <ubuser> how do i do that?
[05:34] <_dwbear75> dr_Willis: ATI radeon, I want extended display -- I need to see more
[05:34] <dr_Willis> _dwbear75:  you proberly want to extend.. not seperate X displayts
[05:34] <redpuman> GrouchySmurf: no, haven't that article in russian i found
[05:35] <dr_Willis> if you want one wide wide desktop that is..
[05:35] <Herbs> I was only asking because in the past kernel updates have required reinstalation of gfx drivers but wont be needed if you havent updated the kernel
[05:35] <redpuman> packard bell laptop and 11.04 don't work touch scroll
[05:35] <_dwbear75> dr_Willis: yes, extended single desktop on two screens
[05:35] <ubuser> i reset my bios before this its been acting up
[05:35] <ubuser> i used the jumper and i couldnt even boot with 2 sticks of ram
[05:36] <puff> I'm installing ubuntu on a new thinkpad.  The installer's trying to get me to use LVM.  CHistorically I have four physical partitions: swap, system (/), user data (/home) and bulk (/mcgee).  Can I have a setup like that with LVM?
[05:36] <_dwbear75> will try to restart x --
[05:36] <_dwbear75> \quit
[05:36] <jmcantrell> any way to mount an s3 bucket in ubuntu?
[05:36] <dr_Willis> whats an s3 bucket>
[05:36] <ubuser> even if i update it wont fix it?
[05:37] <GrouchySmurf> _dwbear75: I think your problem may be better addressed by the Xorg team, subscribe to the mailing list<EMAIL_ADDRESS>you can also address your issue through http://www.x.org/wiki/
[05:37] <ubuser> i tried all the iso's on ubuntu.com
[05:37] <puff> dr_Willis: Amazon S3 service.
[05:37] <puff> jmcantrell: There's some sort of doodad to mount amazon storage as a drive... fusion something?
[05:37] <ubuser> and i got stuck with 8.04 and i accidently chose 32 bit instead of 64 bit
[05:37] <ubuser> and personally i think its running slower, now i have no sound and in the video test i couldnt see the static or w/e
[05:38] <puff> jmcantrell: Fuse.
[05:38] <jmcantrell> puff: i assume you're talking about s3fs?
[05:38] <puff> jmcantrell: ode.google.com/p/s3fs/wiki/FuseOverAmazon
[05:38] <jmcantrell> meh. no ppa
[05:39] <WhoAmIHere> _dwbear75: I think your problem may be better addressed by the Xorg team, subscribe to the mailing list<EMAIL_ADDRESS>you can also address your issue through http://www.x.org/wiki/
[05:39] <redpuman> HLP packard bell laptop and 11.04 don't work touch scroll
[05:40] <j3r0m3> is there something weird going on with the apt repos?
[05:41] <vertigeaux> j3r0m3, apparently so. A lot of people are reporting very slow speeds or no connection at all
[05:41] <dr_Willis>
[05:41] <puff> So... LVM, anybody?
[05:42] <puff> I had some problem downloading an ISO, around 6 or 7pm EST.
[05:42] <puff> I assumed it was something with my local network, as I managed to get it to work a short while later.
[05:42] <j3r0m3> oh.. they are finally working!
[05:43] <j3r0m3> no luck for like the last 30 min
[05:43] <dr_Willis> severe thunderstorms across most of the USA tinight.
[05:43] <vertigeaux> j3r0m3, US?
[05:43] <superfirelord42> oh great, not agiain...
[05:43] <littlebearz> dr_Willis: same in Canada too
[05:43] <littlebearz> I was soaked
[05:43] <j3r0m3> vert: ya
[05:44] <superfirelord42> yay, storms are going to miss me!
[05:44] <leander__> hi
[05:44] <rww> !ot
[05:44] <leander__> this one
[05:45] <mysteriousdarren> ya it sucks, well I live in one of the only parts that has no terrible weather(flash floods, tornados, earthquakes) except for snow and the cold. :(
[05:45] <littlebearz> rww: isn't thunderstorm affecting the download speed of ubuntu considered relevent?
[05:45] <rww> littlebearz: no
[05:46] <superproxy> what are the possible sources of a networking problem when using internet in a windows 7 os is possible, but in Ubuntu natty you can only access google?
[05:46] <dr_Willis> chek your dns server settings
[05:47] <littlebearz> superproxy: only google? dns to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:47] <dr_Willis> google could be getting cached for some reason.
[05:47] <dr_Willis> Hmm
[05:48] <dr_Willis> i wonder how only one site would have its dns cached..  time to do some ping tests
[05:48] <superproxy> why does it work on windows pure dhcp, when it can't work on ubuntu also dhcp?
[05:48] <ubuser> i got another question, i downloaded the 32 bit iso and i am going to update it
[05:48] <ubuser> but i am on a 64 bit, will it be okay to update? or should i download the 64 bit one
[05:48] <Herbs> Id suspect that windows is caching dns
[05:48] <roger21> hi, why ar my ssh connections so slow ?
[05:48] <roger21> it take 2-3 seconds each time
[05:49] <superproxy> also i'm using windows right now
[05:49] <dr_Willis> 2-3 sec to do what ecxactly
[05:49] <roger21> to answer betwwenn the connection and the password question
[05:49] <ubuser> is it okay to run 64 bit computers on 32 bit ubuntu
[05:49] <dr_Willis> 32it os should work find on a 64bit hardware
[05:50] <iFrenzy> ubuser: it would work fine unless you have more than 4gbs of ram in which case you couldn't utilize all your ram
[05:50] <dr_Willis> 64bit os wont work on a 32bit hardware
[05:50] <WhoAmIHere> superproxy: check you have not seeing the cache, after that, check you have connected your cable to the card, after that, check you have the port open, after that, check you have a rule in your firewall for addressing traffic through the 80 port, after that check you are reaching the dns and the gateway, after that, if no one thing works, you can take a gun and kill a) your computer, b) your modem
[05:50] <IdleOne> !pae | iFrenzy ubuser
[05:50] <dr_Willis> I try to use 64bit os whnever the hardware supports it
[05:50] <ubuser> i did i have 4 gigs, the max is 3 gigs, i already fixed that, i jus cant get the video working
[05:50] <nit-wit> ubuser, you can't run 64 bit on a 32 bit computer, also 8.o4 is end of life.
[05:50] <Steve132> What are some possible reasons a device might not be mountable?
[05:50] <ubuser> so if i update, it will probably fix my sound and stuff?
[05:50] <Steve132> I can see a device in gparted
[05:50] <iFrenzy> ubuser: like what sort of video?
[05:51] <Herbs> steve132 whats the file system
[05:51] <ubuser> my 256 meg video card isnt showing up i couldnt see the static in the hardware test
[05:51] <Steve132> but I can't seem to get any partitions on it to mount...the "mount point" field just doesn't exist
[05:51] <dr_Willis> a device not getting seen by the bios/kernel/drivers.. is a differnt issue then a device not being mountable. :)
[05:51] <dr_Willis> the hard driv could be dead.
[05:51] <Steve132> I did ext4 at first
[05:52] <ubuser> so if i update my video might be fixed?? or am i havin some different problem?
[05:52] <Herbs> is it ext4 though?
[05:52] <osvin> Somebody run ubuntu with 8 GB RAM
[05:52] <dr_Willis> hard drives failing. can have very weird issues.. or be flakey.. then work.. then die...
[05:52] <osvin> ?
[05:52] <iFrenzy> ubuser: you could try it
[05:52] <ubuser> i got 4 gigs
[05:52] <leander__> hi
[05:52] <ubuser> pae ftw
[05:52] <Steve132> dr_Willis: if you are talking to me, A) its brand new B) I can see it just fine there just aren't any options in the GUI to mount anything
[05:52] <superfirelord42> leander__: hi
[05:52] <Steve132> Herbs:  When I made an ext4 partition,no, it did not mount
[05:52] <iFrenzy> rww: did i some how get blocked in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:53] <dr_Willis> steve132 you did partion and format the filesystmesd? try mounting it by hand
[05:53] <ubuser> i clicked the update manager and it is showing a nvidia driver, but when i enable it, my resolution changes to 800x600
[05:53] <leander__> i have a wierd problem my fans seems to be off or running too slow does unistalling acpi will solve this
[05:53] <Herbs> steve132 how did you try to mount it? have you tried mount -t ext4 /dev/sd* /mountpoint ?
[05:53] <Steve132> so after it is formatted,try mounting it by hand?
[05:53] <dr_Willis> ubuser you then use the nvidia-settings tool to set the res you want.
[05:53] <ubuser> thats max
[05:53] <Steve132> I tried just using gparted to set the mount point and there aren't any options to do it
[05:53] <WhoAmIHere> herbs: check you have the partition declared at /etc/fstab with the right setting for mounting the ext4 partition
[05:54] <dr_Willis> dont use gparted.. mount it by hand.. or make a fstab entry
[05:54] <Steve132> ok
[05:54] <dr_Willis> !mount
[05:54] <Herbs> /etc/fstab will mount automatically you dont need an entry otherwise
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> ubuser: you may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:54] <dr_Willis> gparted does not as far as i know - alter your fstab file
[05:54] <Steve132> thank you. I'll try that.  Due to something strange I'll have to leave to try it
[05:54] <WhoAmIHere> !who
[05:54] <ubuser> not found, after i enable that?
[05:55] <dr_Willis> ubuser try installing it  from your pacnage manager
[05:55] <ubuser> whats nvidia? my video card is winfast
[05:55] <dr_Willis> its part of the nvidia drivers these days.. but in 8.04 - no idea
[05:55] <dr_Willis> may be  a selerate install
[05:55] <dr_Willis> winfawt is not a chipset..   it maybe a company
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> ubuser: nvidia is the chip. winfast bought nvidia chips and made the card
[05:56] <dr_Willis> so - yes. you are using an nvidia card.
[05:56] <ubuser> oh ok thx
[05:56] <chandler12304> first time here ... can anybody help me
[05:56] <superfirelord42> !ask
[05:56] <guglu> Hello
[05:56] <iFrenzy> chandler12304: what's your problem
[05:56] <dr_Willis> Unlike how windows likes to confuse things.  with speific drivers for idenical chipsets on differnt companies rebranded hardware
[05:56] <Semitones> we'll be able to help a lil better if you say what your question is :)
[05:56] <ubuser> that all i should download??
[05:57] <guglu> Hi
[05:57] <ubuser> what about sound?
[05:57] <nit-wit> guglu, whats up?
[05:57] <iFrenzy> lol he asks to ask a question and then doesn't ask the question
[05:57] <guglu> i did a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade yesterday, now when i switch on the computer my KDE is not loading :( :( :(
[05:57] <guglu> please, i need help badly
[05:57] <guglu> i am not a linux/ubuntu guru
[05:58] <iFrenzy> guglu: I'm assuming you are using kubuntu
[05:58] <guglu> yes
[05:58] <dr_Willis> tell us what it IS doing\
[05:58] <superfirelord42> guglu: does it get to the graphical login screen? or just a terminal login screen?
[05:58] <iFrenzy> guglu: what does it do like do you get to the login screen
[05:58] <chandler12304> I am totally new to linux. I've just istalled natty N. from a CD. The screen is almost (and I mean almost) black. Using a flashlight I can make out symbols and "ubuntu"
[05:58] <ubuser> anyone know how i can fix sound too?
[05:58] <guglu> no login screen
[05:58] <guglu> wait, let me explain
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> ubuser: run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     and it will install the driver
[05:59] <iFrenzy> ubuser: I had a problem with my soudn earlier and reset the computer and that fixed it, it was weird
[05:59] <superfirelord42> chandler12304: would this happen to be on a laptop?
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> iFrenzy: pulse probably fell over
[05:59] <ubuser> ill download current after i restart, do u know how i can fix sound?
[05:59] <chandler12304> yes its a new laptop
[05:59] <MGMT> hey guyz
[05:59] <Jordan_U> chandler12304: Do you have any keys for backlight control on your keyboard? Is it black when booted from the LiveCD or only when booting the installed system?
[05:59] <ubuser> i made sure it wasnt muted
[05:59] <ubuser> brb restarting
[06:00] <guglu> the GRUB loader comes, i choose UBUNTU, then the KUBUNTU loader is shown and after that a black screen that says "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16\r\n/dev/sda5: clean xxxx/xxxxx files, xxxx/xxxx blocks
[06:00] <iFrenzy> I also had the weirdest problem with my tv not working through hdmi as you guys might have saw earlier and ironically after hours of trying stuff changing the hdmi port it was plugged into on my tv fixed the problem
[06:00] <guglu> i have pressed ctrl + alt + delete and restarted 5-6 times, but same thing happens everytime
[06:01] <guglu> right now i am using webchat, so if i ignore someone's reply please pardon me
[06:01] <guglu> also i am so tensed :S
[06:01] <Herbs> guglu is it at a prompt?
[06:01] <iFrenzy> guglu: ctrl,alt,delete works on ubuntu?
[06:01] <guglu> its not a prompt, because i cant execute any command
[06:01] <guglu> yes, it is restarting the system
[06:01] <chandler12304> what would a backlight key look like? I booted it from a CD, the moment I punched "install" it went black
[06:02] <WhoAmIHere> ubuser: fix sound can be fixed by cheking: a) Your sound hardware is support by any ALSA, OSS or by any driver your vendor provides, you can also enable sound support by recompiling your kernel
[06:02] <guglu> iFrenzy: yes, it is restarting the system
[06:02] <superfirelord42> chandler12304: I may have missed it, but is this on a laptop?
[06:02] <guglu> Herbs: it is not a prompt, i cannot execute any command
[06:02] <guglu> just normal terminal like black screen, dont know what it is called
[06:02] <guglu> i also choose recovery mode from the GRUB but same thing (just few more extra lines :( )
[06:03] <WhoAmIHere> guglu: it is called "this shit can't work"
[06:03] <Jordan_U> guglu: *never* interrupt fsck.
[06:03] <ubuser> thanks man, my video is fixed
[06:03] <chandler12304> yes it is a laptop
[06:03] <guglu> dam, what do i do now :(
[06:03] <ubuser> although 1260x is high
[06:03] <Jordan_U> guglu: I would recommend booting from a liveCD and running fsck from there.
[06:03] <Herbs> guglu try going into single user and run fsck -y
[06:03] <h00k> !language | WhoAmIHere
[06:03] <iFrenzy> guglu: yeah that
[06:03] <ubuser> im diggin it, lol, can someone help me fix my sound??
[06:03] <guglu> Herbs: but how ?
[06:04] <bullgard4> According to Ikhaya Oneiric UDS recommends to priorize Thunderbird for Evolution. What is the reason?
[06:04] <Herbs> guglu so you cant issue commands in single user?
[06:04] <mrdeb> is thunderbird replacing evolution
[06:04] <ubuser> can someone help me fix my sound? i made sure alsamixer wasnt muted
[06:04] <superfirelord42> chandler12304: do you see any key on your keyboard for adjusting your screen brightness by any chance?
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> ubuser: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[06:04] <guglu> Herbs: no, i tried some commands there, it wont work
[06:05] <Herbs> guglu when you say it doesent work are you able to enter as you need to use full paths in single user
[06:05] <nkh> hello , is there any instrucction to secure Ubuntu? I'm Using 10.04 and pidgin for chat, yesterday some of my friends told me that he saw my chat logs in someone else computer and he didn't revealed his name ! I'm So worry about this !! :(
[06:05] <WhoAmIHere> h00k: my language is well, words mean what you like to interpret, I'm friendly and professional when I say "this shit cannot work"
[06:05] <bullgard4> s/priorize/prioritize/
[06:05] <nit-wit> chandler12304, try fn and the left right arrow keys.
[06:05] <guglu> Herbs: well, i just tried few simple commands like ls, etc. and nothing happens
[06:05] <IdleOne> WhoAmIHere: Stop the swearing please
[06:06] <chandler12304> There are blue signs on  the F5 and F6 keys... don't word, even if I press the blu Fn key at the same time
[06:06] <Herbs> guglu tru /sbin/fsck -y
[06:06] <guglu> maybe i am not doing it in the right place ? i am doing it in the same place where i see those msgs
[06:06] <Herbs> try*
[06:06] <guglu> ok, one second
[06:06] <chandler12304> There are "light signs" on the arow keys, don't word either
[06:06] <guglu> the computer is in the other room, i came quicker today to use this computer and get help
[06:06] <Vonhinten> ubuser, what type of machine? what type of sound device (aplay -l)?
[06:06] <WhoAmIHere> guglu: exactly what happens when you boot your system?
[06:06] <kyle123> Hey guys, I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu and fedora on lvm partitions. What would be the best way to configure grub and the /boot partitions?
[06:06] <satsat> help pls. i installed 11.04 on my hp mini 110.. now how to install graphic driver coz in my appearance settings theres no visual tab  to have fancy animation
[06:06] <guglu> WhoAmIHere: the GRUB loader comes, i choose UBUNTU, then the KUBUNTU loader is shown and after that a black screen that says "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16\r\n/dev/sda5: clean xxxx/xxxxx files, xxxx/xxxx blocks
[06:07] <bullgard4> WhoAmIHere: You are _not_ friendly when you say: ""this shit cannot work".
[06:07] <john_rambo> I am trying to configure squid ...followed http://tinyurl.com/3v9nhmd.........Now how do test that its working?
[06:07] <nkh> hello , is there any instrucction to secure Ubuntu? I'm Using 10.04 and pidgin for chat, yesterday some of my friends told me that he saw my chat logs in someone else computer and he didn't revealed his name ! I'm So worry about this !! :(
[06:07] <ubuser> i got it, http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/YK9
[06:07] <dr_Willis> check your squid logs perhaps?
[06:07] <ubuser> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
[06:08] <guglu> Herbs: nothing happened :(
[06:08] <WhoAmIHere> guglu: and after that, remains the message at the screen?
[06:08] <guglu> just the command was shown and thats it
[06:08] <guglu> WhoAmIHere: yes
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> ubuser: are you using desktop or sever?
[06:08] <ubuser> http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/YK9
[06:08] <ubuser> desktop
[06:08] <guglu> now when i typed /sbin/fsck -y
[06:08] <guglu> it just stayed at the screen
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> ubuser: Hardy is no longer supported on the desktop
[06:08] <guglu> i was using ubuntu 9.10
[06:08] <satsat> help pls. i installed 11.04 on my hp mini 110.. now how to install graphic driver coz in my appearance settings theres no visual tab  to have fancy animation
[06:08] <Herbs> guglu and nothing was echoed back?
[06:09] <guglu> no sir :(
[06:09] <john_rambo> dr_Willis, Am I suppose to ask Ubuntu or at least the browser to use proxy ?
[06:09] <Herbs> hmm
 what kind of gfx card do you have?
[06:09] <guglu> its not like a command prompt, i mean there is not $
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> ubuser: you can jump directly to lucid which IS supported on the desktop in one jump
[06:09] <guglu> or $user@home:
[06:09] <dr_Willis> john_rambo:  you configure the browser to use the squid prox
[06:09] <chandler12304> Fn and left arrow doesn't work either
[06:09] <guglu> hope i make sense
[06:09] <ubuser> i was going to download 10.04
[06:09] <guglu> Herbs:
[06:09] <john_rambo> dr_Willis, How exactly ? ...I havent done this before
[06:10] <nkh> Is there any body there can help me with securing my ubuntu ? :(
[06:10] <ubuser> so the update should fix sound??
[06:10] <Herbs> guglu yeah Im just thinking
[06:10] <dr_Willis> john_rambo:  the squid docs tell you the defalt port to use.
[06:10] <iFrenzy> nkh: what do you mean?
[06:10] <nkh> iFrenzy: hello , is there any instrucction to secure Ubuntu? I'm Using 10.04 and pidgin for chat, yesterday some of my friends told me that he saw my chat logs in someone else computer and he didn't revealed his name ! I'm So worry about this !! :(
[06:10] <satsat> imikey,  i have this  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> ubuser: it should help but Hardy support on desktop is dead
[06:10] <bullgard4> How can I scrutinize ubottu's repertoire?
[06:10] <Jordan_U> !brain | bullgard4
[06:10] <ubuser> well atleast my 4 gigs of ram and video work
[06:10] <guglu> i dont understand whats wrong with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade that caused this
[06:11] <ubuser> pae ftw
[06:11] <nit-wit> nkh, was the chat on an ope IIRC
[06:11] <nkh> iFrenzy: I just mean show me ways to prevent this
[06:11] <chandler12304> still an almost black screen, any more ideas?
 im pretty sure they took that option you are looking for out when they made 11.04
[06:11] <nkh> nit-wit: no, yahoo chats
[06:11] <guglu> but anyway, i need to fix this asap, or else i am in serious trouble please
[06:11] <satsat> imikey, maybe its becoz im using gnome classic? i dont like the unity so i installed gnome desktop environment and chose ubuntu classic when logging on
[06:11] <iFrenzy> nkh: ubuntu is secure you probably gave up your password on the internet somewhere
 your drivers should be supported by a default install
[06:11] <iFrenzy> rww: I'm not sure if you can see me in #ubuntu-offtopic, but it is tomorrow where I'm at
[06:11] <Herbs> guglu how many entries are there in grub any earlier kernels?
[06:12] <guglu> 5 entries
[06:12] <nkh> iFrenzy: I don't think so , It's very Strong and i change it time by time !
 gnome classic would be the place to go to do things like that
[06:12] <guglu> ubuntu, ubuntu recover mode, memtest, memtest something, windows
[06:12] <Herbs> guglu try one of the older kernels
[06:12] <guglu> Herbs:
[06:12] <satsat> imikey,  so the visual tab settings is gone in 11.04? how to enable extra animation then
[06:12] <guglu> i dont know what that means :(
[06:12] <WhoAmIHere> guglu: possibly your BIOS isn't well supported and it may represent a bug with fsck... try to use an interactive startup
[06:12] <Herbs> guglu ah ok
 try downloading compiz fusion
[06:12] <satsat> imikey, ok i'll try
[06:13] <nkh> iFrenzy: so you mean we have nothing to do with ubuntu after default instalation to secure it more ?
[06:13] <guglu> hello, my messages are goin ?
[06:13] <iFrenzy> rww: lol so let me get this straight, you banned me from a chat room because I ask a question and you give me an attitude about it? I'm not starting anything else, I just want clarification.
[06:13] <WhoAmIHere> guglu: fsck is an utility that checks the disk drives when booting
[06:13] <chandler12304> no more ideas?  craaaaaaap!!!!!
[06:13] <rww> iFrenzy: please drop by #ubuntu-ops if you want to have this conversation.
[06:13] <guglu> WhoAmIHere: so what should i do now ?
[06:14] <Herbs> guglu Im mainly a Red hat based and slackware user but if someone can tell the alternate to modifying the boot to rw, init=/bin/sh for ubuntu you could try that
[06:14] <guglu> i will try running windows and see
[06:14] <iFrenzy> rww: still on freenode?
[06:14] <rww> iFrenzy: yes, on freenode
[06:14] <nkh> iFrenzy: I remember that once some one had a test (nessuse? or something like this!) on my laptop and he said that it's security is awful ! :D
[06:14] <guglu> i see, but no commands are executing
[06:14] <guglu> but i will try running windows and see whether that runs or not, brb
[06:14] <Herbs> guglu no from grub press e to modify the boot command
[06:15] <Herbs> guglu but I believe that doesent work on ubuntu
[06:15] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: Thank you for your help.
[06:16] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: You're welcome.
[06:16] <chandler12304> ok .. I'll try again:  I am totally new to linux. I've just istalled natty N. from a CD. The screen is almost (and I mean almost) black. Using a flashlight I can make out symbols and "ubuntu"
[06:16] <nit-wit> chandler12304, you get the grub menu correct?
[06:17] <guglu> Herbs: WhoAmIHere windows is working fine, can i do something from there to fix the issue ?
[06:17] <hawaii> is it laptop?
[06:17] <guglu> Herbs: i will try that now
[06:17] <john_rambo> dr_Willis, Okay I know the pot now ....At FF select Manual Proxy settings ...then ? http proxy? & use http://<IP_ADDRESS> ??
[06:17] <Herbs> guglu ok but I think the syntax is different on ubuntu I rarely use it tbh
[06:17] <chandler12304> No Idea ... I can start the grub (using my flashlight), but i don't know what to do next
[06:18] <john_rambo> dr_Willis, port*
[06:18] <hawaii> chandler12304, on live CD was ok?
[06:18] <Herbs> guglu as for windows dont have a clue I never use it other than gaming
[06:18] <satsat> imikey, i already installed comiz fusion how to open it?
[06:18] <dr_Willis> john_rambo:  i would check the squid docs.. its  not too hard to confiure. ip# and port.
[06:19] <guglu> Herbs: i pressed e
[06:19] <guglu> and it shows some text
[06:19] <chandler12304> Live CD gives me the black screen too
[06:19] <guglu> i dont understand that honestly
[06:19] <dr_Willis> thers proberly firefox extensoons to enable/disable squid
[06:19] <guglu> i can delete, write more text there
[06:19] <Herbs> guglu ok at the end put a space then type init=/bin/sh
[06:19] <john_rambo> dr_Willis, Please
[06:19] <hawaii> chandler12304, how did U installed it? :D
[06:19] <dr_Willis> please what? you want me to read the squid docs to you? Im no teven on a pc right now.]
[06:19] <chandler12304> from a CD if that's what you're asking
[06:20] <guglu> a space at the end, are you sure ? or do you want me to write that on a new line , Herbs  ?
[06:20] <Herbs> guglu a space at the end of the string
[06:20] <guglu> there are many lines
[06:20] <Vustom> Does anyone here have any experience with Joli OS
[06:20] <imikey> satsat: brb
[06:20] <Vustom> ?
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: its offtopic here, this is ubuntu support only
[06:21] <Herbs> guglu like I said Ive only done this with red hat based distros I believe its a diff syntax on ubuntu but if theres 3 lines I think it will be the 2nd
[06:21] <chandler12304> grub gives me four lines 1. linus  2. linus recovery and two memory test... what do i do now?
[06:21] <dr_Willis> vustom it works. :) its weird.. and not oficially supported here.
[06:22] <superfirelord42> Vustom: Jolicloud?
[06:22] <guglu> Herbs: would you like me to write the lines and pastebin ?
[06:22] <Herbs> guglu yes please
[06:22] <dr_Willis> Joilcould is now known as Joli OS - based on  one of the older releases of ubuntu.
[06:22] <guglu> ok, one second
[06:22] <Herbs> guglu I will try in a vm while you do it
[06:23] <superfirelord42> ah, name change.
[06:23] <chandler12304> grub gives me four lines 1. linus  2. linus recovery and two memory test... what do i do now?
[06:23] <dzup> hi, is there a utility to make swf banner for ubuntu?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onxWT8rIRE8&feature=related
[06:23] <Vustom> Yeah, I went on their IRC but theres only afk people there, I'll ask away but If I get no reply it's okay, I've got the Joli OS on a ISO but theres 3 options when it boots to the install screen, first one being "Use Joli OS without Installation" then "Install Joli OS" then "Help" but heres the problem, at that point my keyboard doesn't work, can't press TAB to select Install Joli OS :/
[06:24] <satsat> imikey, ok thanks ill check it
[06:24] <dr_Willis> vustom i found Jolios support rather lacking... either it works.. or  it dosent it seems
[06:24] <leander__> my fans arent working
[06:24] <Vustom> Hm, I might just try and install Ubuntu on the old PC instead. ^_^
[06:24] <dr_Willis> vustom	 unplug/plug in the keyboard. or try a ps2 keyboard perhaps
[06:25] <chandler12304>  I am totally new to linux. I've just istalled natty N. from a CD. The screen is almost (and I mean almost) black. Using a flashlight I can make out symbols and "ubuntu"  I can start the grub (using my flashlight), but i don't know what to do next
[06:25] <dr_Willis> I dident find JoliOS  that impressive.. and lacking in ways.  its hard for them to 'support' all the 'old' pc's they are trying to target.
[06:25] <Vustom> What's a PS2 keyboard?
[06:25] <superfirelord42> Vustom: will it boot the default if you do not select anything?
[06:25] <dr_Willis> PS2 or USB.. round plug .. :) old skool
[06:26] <Vustom> -.-
[06:26] <damian_-_> hi, how do i theme nautilus's sidebar. im trying to set a background in gconf-editor but nothing happens.. could my theme be overwriting this?
[06:26] <Vustom> I don't think I have one of those..
[06:26] <dr_Willis> I have seen pc;s that grub dont work right with.. when using a USB keyboard
[06:26] <nit-wit> chandler12304, do y9u have a external monitor you can plug in?
[06:26] <Herbs> guglu ok I just did it on a Debian box its at the end of the line pointing to the /boot image
[06:26] <imikey> chandler12304: wow thats terrible
[06:26] <guglu> yes, i was writing Herbs
[06:26] <chandler12304> no external available
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> ps2 keyboards rock :)
[06:26] <Vustom> Hm, I suppose theres no way to edit the ISO and change change the menu options. :p
[06:26] <chandler12304> thanks for your pity
[06:26] <guglu> last line is something like initrd /boot/initrd.img-x..x.x.-generic , Herbs
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> !remaster | Vustom
[06:27] <imikey> does your laptop have a svideo port tvout?
[06:27] <dr_Willis> vustom you could make a live flash drivce.. and do some changes
[06:27] <Herbs> guglu thats the one you need to add it to the end of
[06:27] <superfirelord42> Vustom: if you change it to a bootable usb you can, or you can remaster and reburn the USB, but that is more work :P
[06:27] <imikey> chandler12304: does your laptop have an svideo port tvout?
[06:27] <guglu> so like initrd /boot/initrd.img-x..x.x.-generic init=/bin/sh, Herbs  ?
[06:27] <Herbs> guglu no sorry 1 sec
[06:27] <guglu> also please tell me how would i save
[06:27] <chandler12304> I don't even know what that is or looks like
[06:28] <Vustom> Anybody willing to show me how? I have the .ISO in a folder and a spare USB/CD
[06:28] <Herbs> guglu where its points to /boot/vmlinuz-***
[06:28] <nit-wit> chandler12304, your problem is unusual it did have no screen back-light to begin with but yet you installed anyway. Have you any other live cd"s of other distros to confirm the screen works?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: install unetbootin and use that, be sure to MD5 test the ISO
[06:28] <dr_Willis> vustom remasering the iso is not trivial. and you dont even know what you want to change do you? easiest way is to make a bootable flash drive.
[06:28] <imikey> chandler12304: what are you typing from right now another laptop or a desktop?
[06:28] <chandler12304> the scrren works GRUB looks normal
[06:28] <bullgard4> According to Ikhaya Oneiric UDS recommends to priorize Thunderbird for Evolution. What is the reason?
[06:28] <Vustom> What's a bootable flash drive.. -.-
[06:28] <PalinBachman2012> chandler12304: have you tried using the function keys for brightness
[06:28] <chandler12304> right now from a netbook
[06:29] <Vustom> A USB with the .ISO in it?
[06:29] <PalinBachman2012> chandler12304: assuming its a laptop
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: a usb stick or SD card with a bootable system on
[06:29] <nit-wit> chandler12304, to see grub you need the flashlight correct?
[06:29] <Vustom> What do I put on the USB then?
[06:29] <chandler12304> yes, function keys don't work
[06:29] <damian_-_> hi, how do i theme nautilus's sidebar. im trying to set a background in gconf-editor but nothing happens.. could my theme be overwriting this?
[06:29] <dr_Willis> vustom - the proram unetbootin was mentioned earlier
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: its not the ISO, its some files from the ISO as well as extra boot infp
[06:29] <chandler12304> No, grub works whitout the flash
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: if you arent going to read the advice given, why bother asking for it?
[06:30] <ensNRG> Hello
[06:30] <guglu> Herbs: it is linux /boot/vmlinuz-***-generic root=UUID=some_serial_key\b04-some_serial_key ro single
[06:30] <imikey> chandler12304: what kind of graphics do you have in the laptop
[06:30] <Herbs> guglu yup thats the line you add it to the end of
[06:30] <Vustom> I did read it.. just confused.
[06:30] <guglu> so ro single init=/bin/sh , right Herbs  ?
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: install unetbootin and run it, its childishly simple
[06:30] <Herbs> guglu yup
[06:30] <chandler12304> chandler12304: what kind of graphics do you have in the laptop ???? What exactly do you mean
[06:30] <nit-wit> chandler12304, whenI  asked you earlier you said no, chose the recovery line and boot at the gui choose the faixsafe x boot
[06:30] <guglu> ok, one sec and how to save ?
[06:30] <dr_Willis> the Pendrivelinux web site - also has  alternatives to Unetbootin
[06:31] <Vustom> Is this to install Joli OS or Ubuntu?
[06:31] <Herbs> guglu was ctrl x on Debian its enter on CentOS and Red Hat
[06:31] <guglu> Herbs: how to save then ?
[06:31] <imikey> chandler12304: ati nvidia intel
[06:31] <guglu> ok
[06:31] <Herbs> guglu never done it on ubuntu
[06:31] <chandler12304> recovery line ...and then?
[06:32] <guglu> Herbs: init=/bin/bash would be ok ?
[06:32] <nit-wit> chandler12304, hit boot at the gui that comes up choose the safe boot 4th or 5th line down.
[06:32] <superfirelord42> Vustom:  is this what you are needing? http://help.jolicloud.com/entries/231051-creating-a-jolicloud-usb-key-guide
[06:32] <Herbs> guglu should be
[06:32] <guglu> ok, lemme ttry
[06:32] <chandler12304> failsafx? (now i am using the flashlight again)
[06:32] <guglu> Herbs: yes, it loaded bash
[06:32] <nit-wit> chandler12304, it is a safe graphics it may get you in, to look for a graphics driver
[06:32] <guglu> after ctrl x
[06:33] <Vustom> I have the Joli OS .ISO on a CD.. but I'll try this as well?
[06:33] <Herbs> guglu ok try /sbin/fsck -y
[06:33] <guglu> hello, are my messages going ?
[06:33] <guglu> ok
[06:33] <nicekiwi> i cant connect to the Ubuntu One service, help?
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: the unetbootin will work in that software]#
[06:33] <superfirelord42> Vustom: yeah, it makes it easier for you to modify the grub configuration if it will boot on a usb
[06:33] <sam_sam> how to delete multiple files within a directory recursively(subdir too) with a specific extension .. eg. all .pyc files
[06:33] <guglu> Herbs: just gave 3 msgs and ended
[06:33] <guglu> :(
[06:34] <chandler12304> Okay... now it says "ubuntu is running on low graphic settings" (not exactly those words... I'm translating from German)
[06:34] <Herbs> guglu what where the msgs the fsck completed?
[06:34] <guglu> one sec, lemme write
[06:34] <john_rambo> dr_Willis, Its working !!!!!
[06:34] <nit-wit> chandler12304, correct but you have a back light right?
[06:35] <sam_sam> how to delete multiple files within a directory recursively(subdir too) with a specific extension? .. eg. all .pyc files
[06:35] <chandler12304> nope ... It's still me and my flashlight
[06:35] <Vustom> I'm not sure what to change but one wouldn't think it'd not be hard to make the second option of the start screen (looks like grub) the first option?
[06:35] <john_rambo> dr_Willis, Now how do I apply it system wide ? Using Xubuntu 10.04
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: if you are asking stuff like that, I suggest you do some research
[06:35] <rww> sam_sam: find path/to/directory -name *.pyc -delete
[06:35] <dr_Willis> no idea  john_rambo  - squid is a http proxy/cache - it dosent make sence to apply it to every app. just browsers
[06:36] <nit-wit> chandler12304, I would try another live cd this is going nowhere it has not worked since you booted the install cd
[06:36] <rww> sam_sam: if you want to look in the current directory, path/to/directory would be "."
[06:36] <dr_Willis> !proxy
[06:36] <sam_sam> rww:ty =)
[06:36] <dr_Willis> wrong factoid
[06:36] <rww> dr_Willis: I don't think we have a factoid for setting up proxy servers. I looked when I wrote that one :)
[06:36] <chandler12304> damn it!!!
[06:37] <dzup> hi, is there a utility to make swf banners in ubuntu?
[06:38] <PalinBachman2012> !tor
[06:38] <chandler12304> great....I don't have another live-CD
[06:38] <superfirelord42> sam_sam: something like command `find . -name "*.pyc"` i think, run it with ls instead of rm first to make sure i didnt mess it up badly... (and can someone please check that plz?)
[06:38] <foot-odor> does anyone use wbar?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> superfirelord42: you can use -iname to make it case insensitive ;)
[06:38] <guglu> Herbs: you there ?
[06:39] <Herbs> guglu yup
[06:39] <guglu> herhttp://pastie.org/private/qqyreu0sqvw9i11zg1twwa
[06:39] <guglu> Herbs: http://pastie.org/private/qqyreu0sqvw9i11zg1twwa
[06:39] <superfirelord42> ActionParsnip: interesting, didnt know that, thanks xD
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> superfirelord42: sharing the love <3
[06:39] <nicekiwi> i cant connect to the Ubuntu One service, help?
[06:40] <dr_Willis> there is the #ubuntuone channel nicekiwi
[06:40] <Herbs> guglu ok the file system is fine however Id check the time in your bios is correct
[06:40] <nit-wit> chandler12304, you could try upadating by choosing the command rootnet line in that recovery gui and running sudo apt-get update &&  sudo aptget upgrade.    then reboot and see if you have a back light.
[06:41] <guglu> Herbs: could you guide me regarding that please ?
[06:41] <nit-wit> chandler12304, you have to be plugged in wuth ether net to updtae
[06:41] <Herbs> guglu should be del on post
[06:41] <guglu> sorry ? del on post ?
[06:41] <Herbs> guglu when you restart the box the first screen that displays should tell you what to press to enter setup
[06:42] <imikey> dzup: http://freshmeat.net/projects/f4l/
[06:42] <nit-wit> chandler the command is sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:42] <Milossh> hello. I have a weird sound problem with VIA VT1818.  For example, now, I can see input meter working, when I'm playing music or youtube vids, and in pulse I set rear mic as input
[06:42] <Milossh> would someone please help me diagnose the prob?
[06:42] <nit-wit> chandler12304, the command is sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:42] <guglu> Herbs: when i restart first thing that shows is the GRUB LOADER, or am i missing something ?
[06:43] <burg> hello. how can i move a window from one display to another?
[06:43] <chandler12304> Ok ... explain it again..and this time pretend you're talking to Grandma, who doesn't know what the command rootnet line is :-)
[06:43] <john_rambo> rww, Isnt this only a caching proxy running at my end ? I mean whatismyip still detects my ip and says Possible Proxy Squid Port No & squid server name
[06:43] <Herbs> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will only work if the apt-get-update connects otherwise it will terminate
[06:43] <Milossh> guglu, press del button on keyboard from when you start a computer until a blue screen shows up
[06:43] <impiza> apton cd restore not working
[06:43] <Milossh> that's called bios
[06:43] <freeman_> there's a certain part my my screen i can't click. when i move the window im trying to click i can click the spot. ???
[06:43] <john_rambo> rww, Staying anonymous is not my criteria
[06:43] <guglu> ok Milossh , doing now
[06:43] <rww> john_rambo: I didn't recommend tor to you.
[06:43] <Milossh> guglu, don't
[06:43] <guglu> Milossh: ?
[06:43] <Propel> how do you make VLC Player not bring up a new window every time you play a new file?
[06:44] <Milossh> I'm just trying to tell you what 'del on post' means
[06:44] <guglu> ohh, i see
[06:44] <imikey> Propel use File open
[06:44] <guglu> Herbs: so i should do that, right ?
[06:44] <Milossh> I don't really know what's your prob
[06:44] <john_rambo> rww, squid
[06:44] <impiza> herb how can i fix that
[06:44] <rww> john_rambo: dr_willis, who has since left the channel, did. and they were the one helping you. I don't know anything about squid.
[06:44] <guglu> Milossh: my KDE is not loading
[06:44] <Milossh> did you try reinstalling it?
[06:44] <guglu> no, it was working fine yesterday
[06:44] <john_rambo> rww, Okay
[06:44] <Milossh> what errors do you get?
[06:45] <rww> john_rambo: if you're looking for my opinion, though, I think caching proxy servers are a waste of time unless you have a lot of users, since your browser does basically the same thing by itself.
[06:45] <Herbs> guglu yup and check the time is correct as your fsck complained about the system clock
[06:45] <Steve132> Hey, thank you everyone who helped me 10 minutes ago.  It worked perfectly!
[06:45] <george_> i have a usb wireless adapter which when I connect, neither the light on it turns on nor does ubuntu detect it
[06:45] <guglu> i did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, then i was working as usual
[06:45] <guglu> everything was fine and i was happy
[06:45] <guglu> then i went home and today when i came its not loading
[06:45] <john_rambo> rww, Just want to try new things
[06:45] <guglu> Herbs: ok, will do that now
[06:45] <Propel> imikey, is there a more convenient way to do it? it's a bit of a hassle to do that every time you want to play a file
[06:45] <Milossh> guglu, please explain "not loading" a bit
[06:45] <Propel> for instance like music
[06:45] <JoeR1> rww - i found an answer to my problem with linux only reading my CPU as a single core
[06:45] <impiza> apton cd restore not working
[06:45] <imikey> maybe drag and drop
[06:45] <Milossh> but try herb's solution first
[06:45] <imikey> propel
[06:46] <john_rambo> rww, Bye ....Thanks
[06:46] <JoeR1> It was a BIOS option, I assume for compatibility
[06:46] <freeman_> how do i kill the AWN (avant window navigator) in ubuntu
[06:46] <Propel> imikey, nope :/
[06:46] <freeman_> it is giving me a dead zone where i cant click
[06:46] <guglu> Milossh: it loads a black screen with the message "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16\r\n/dev/sda5: clean, 383070/6553600 files, 6168548/26214055 blocks" and yes, i am trying herbs solution now
[06:46] <mrdeb> freeman_: is it no possible to clos it from what i know
[06:46] <Milossh> then do what Herbs said
[06:46] <nit-wit> george_, run this command in a terminal and post the usb info.lspci | grep -i wireless
[06:47] <freeman_> mrdeb, it is making a dead zone where i cannnot click on my desktop
[06:47] <freeman_> no matter what window is open
[06:47] <guglu> Herbs: sudo shutdown -r 0 should be fine to restart, am i right ? (just a bit nervous right now)
[06:47] <freeman_> this is the question in launchpad.net https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/156908
[06:47] <Herbs> guglu should be fine but I usaully use now and not 0
[06:47] <imikey> propel have you ever tried gnome mplayer?
[06:47] <george_> nit-wit, one sec, let me turn that computer on
[06:48] <guglu> ok
[06:48] <Herbs> guglu hangon your in the bios right?
[06:48] <nit-wit> george_, no problem
[06:48] <george_> nit-wit, the adapter is a D-link DWA-125
[06:48] <JoeR1> also, I installed Plane Shift and it doesn't run
[06:48] <Propel> imikey, nope. but thanks for the suggestion. i'll try it out. i was recommened smplayer and vlc
[06:48] <JoeR1> it installed just fine from an installer but it will not execute
[06:48] <freeman_> mrdeb, is there a way i can restart AWN and see if that resolves it? a system reboot doesn't :(
[06:48] <imikey> propel it supports the drag and drop for music
[06:49] <guglu> Herbs: unable to resolve host (none)
[06:49] <guglu> and without sudo nothing happens
[06:49] <robinhoode> Are there any tools for deleting orphan files? I know there are tools for deleting orphan packages, but I'm specifically looking to clean out orphan files.
[06:49] <guglu> i am not in the bios but in that bash
[06:49] <guglu> Herbs:
[06:49] <FloodBot1> guglu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <Propel> imikey, do you know of a program that doesn't need to drag and drop? just plays into the same window?
[06:49] <guglu> FloodBot1: sorry
[06:49] <Herbs> guglu try reboot
[06:49] <guglu> yes i tried
[06:49] <Propel> I know smplayer does that, but it's really annoying how it plays from where you elft off previously in the file
[06:49] <guglu> nthig happens
[06:49] <Vustom> How do I cd in terminal to /home/Desktop/Vustom/Jolicloud/USB?
[06:49] <imikey> propel why not try rythym box and make a database
[06:50] <coconutz> hey guys, i got a 4 TB linux with content, i want to make backup but only to the system and ensure if its fails i can restore it but without the personal data... the tar method allways let me down... ideas?
[06:50] <Herbs> guglu no using the reboot script by typing reboot
[06:50] <imikey> propel it will make the database for you all you have to do is tell it where to look
[06:50] <guglu> yes, i typed the reboot command and hit enter, nothing happens, Herbs
[06:50] <joshmc> Vustom: sure you didn't mean /home/Vustom/Deskotp/Jolicloud/USB? unless your name is Desktop, or you are hiding your username
[06:50] <Herbs> guglu are you in the bios?
[06:51] <Propel> imikey, and then you just search through the DB within the program?
[06:51] <guglu> no, i am in that bash where i was taken after init=/bin/bash in the GRUB and then tried /sbin/fsck -y
[06:51] <guglu> Herbs:
[06:51] <imikey> propel correct
[06:51] <Herbs> guglu ah your still in /bin/bash yeah?
[06:51] <imikey> propel like itunes
[06:51] <Propel> imikey, thanks. :)
[06:51] <guglu> yes
[06:51] <george_> nit-wit, it comes out blank, doesn't show anything, I even tried sudoing it
[06:51] <Herbs> ctrl+alt+del
[06:51] <guglu> ok :D
[06:51] <guglu> and then del to get the BIOS
[06:51] <Herbs> guglu yup
[06:52] <Herbs> guglu keep pressing del repeatdely
[06:52] <nit-wit> george_, it seems that that usb needs drivers just google the same idnetification you posted and you will see what I mean, here is a link for reference. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1289917
[06:53] <Da|Mummy> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[06:53] <guglu> Herbs: del didnt work, f2 did
[06:53] <Da|Mummy> when in upgrade manager
[06:53] <Herbs> guglu cool
[06:53] <guglu> what next sir ? :(
[06:53] <Da|Mummy> it wants to upgrade wine, but source isnt added i take it, how do i fix that?
[06:53] <Vustom> joshmc It's Vustom, I triedc d /home/Vustom/Desktop/Vustom/Jolicloud/USB but it doesn't work..
[06:53] <Vustom> cd*
[06:53] <nit-wit> george here is a link the bot gives when prompted as well.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:54] <Herbs> guglu depending on your bios version
[06:54] <Herbs> but usually its on the first page the time settings
[06:54] <george_> nit-wit, hmm, so I need to compile the drivers myself?
[06:55] <george_> nit-wit, weird thing is I tried using ndiswrapper and didn't work, guess I'll try compiling
[06:55] <joshmc> Vustom: so Jolicloud is on user Vustom's desktop? it would be worthwhile to verify the path using locate (unless you are sure and are just having freak problems). for example, `locate Jolicloud` would give you the path you want, likely.
[06:56] <Vustom> The V is undercase, just noticed it and it worked.
[06:56] <joshmc> Vustom: then there you go :)
[06:56] <nit-wit> george_, hope the links are a help thats my limitations in this area.;)
[06:56] <george_> nit-wit, thanks for the link, i just hope it works
[06:59] <guglu> Herbs: time and date were wrong
[06:59] <guglu> i rectified those
[06:59] <Herbs> guglu lets hope thats sorts it change it and f10 to save and exit
[06:59] <guglu> restarted , same thing
[07:00] <satsat> how to disable compiz in 11.04?
[07:00] <guglu> yes, i did f10
[07:00] <guglu> Herbs: restarting, same issue :(
[07:01] <guglu> some file has corrupted maybe, dunno ? dam :(
[07:01] <Deity> fuck
[07:01] <Guest63684> 11
[07:01] <bullgard4> [Natty] '~$ sudo lshw -class memory; *-memory: description: System Memory. slot: System board or motherboard. size: 1GiB; capacity: 1GiB.' How does lshw determine the "capacity"?
[07:01] <logesh> my chat window in orkut is not visible.what can i do?
[07:02] <Deity> why?
[07:03] <guglu> Herbs: did youw rite anything ?
[07:03] <logesh> how to made the chat window visible in orkut?
[07:03] <Herbs> guglu nope am thinking
[07:03] <ashper> Hello
[07:03] <Deity> brother chun is ture man
[07:03] <guglu> ok, webchat for me is a bit buggy, i miss messages sometimes
[07:05] <guglu> Herbs: could the issue be with ram or HDD ?
[07:06] <Herbs> guglu unlikely
[07:06] <guglu> ok, very weird
[07:06] <george_> nit-wit, well i downloaded the source code for the driver as a bz2 file but when I extracted it, all it has is a 2_dpo file, just one file, any idea what it might be?
[07:07] <guglu> .
[07:07] <kelvinella> hi, is tracker-indexer and tracker-applet really necessary to run?
[07:07] <nit-wit> george_, I have not a clue in this area, sorry.;)
[07:07] <kelvinella> tracker-indexer always running high in CPU time!?
[07:08] <superfirelord42> george_: whats the link please?
[07:08] <Herbs> guglu try pressing the esc key
[07:08] <george_> superfirelord42, http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2 and it's the RT8070/RT3070/RT3370/RT5370/RT5372 USB link
[07:08] <guglu> where ?
[07:09] <ferni> kelvinella: no. tracker just indexes your files so you could search from them easilly
[07:09] <george_> nit-wit, that's alright, you've been more than helpful
[07:09] <Herbs> when you get the fsck message when you try booting
[07:09] <kelvinella> ferni, can i uninstall it?
[07:09] <kelvinella> ferni, how to uninstall?  which process associate with it?  do i uninstall it in synpatic?
[07:10] <ferni> I've run tracker etc software, sure its a nice idea, but when I tried to search something with it, it fails to find the information it says it should be indexing. so its totally useless
[07:10] <superfirelord42> george_: that dpo file is a tar file
[07:10] <kelvinella> ferni, how to uninstall?
[07:10] <ferni> kelvinella: yes you can uninstall it. its propably some "tracker" package
[07:10] <superfirelord42> george_: mv thefilenamedpo thefilenamedpo.tar and then tar -xf thefilenamedpo.tar
[07:11] <george_> superfirelord42, u serious? first time seeing a file liek this, usually it would just be .tar
[07:11] <ferni> kelvinella: dpkg -l |grep tracker  , then apt-get remove the packages
[07:12] <superfirelord42> george_: I think, but quite honestly, I just lost the file, quite literally lost the file....
[07:12] <george_> superfirelord42, wow, thanks so much, worked :) why they didn't just make the extension a tar is beyond me
[07:12] <superfirelord42> george_: well the extention should have been .tar.bz2 or something, but meh. sometimes software treats things different than other software
[07:13] <george_> superfirelord42, ehh, better than not having the source files at all, thanks a lot though
[07:13] <histo> george_: file extensions mean nothing in linux
[07:13] <superfirelord42> george_: no problem
[07:14] <Herbs> guglu any joy?
[07:14] <guglu> no
[07:14] <guglu> everything is so weird
[07:15] <guglu> i wanted to load the bash again
[07:15] <guglu> its not ro single anymore, its ro   quiet splash
[07:15] <guglu> and then when i add init=/bin/bash the bash that comes is weird, where when i type commands the commands are not shown
[07:15] <Herbs> guglu as the fsck complained about the system clock before the only think I can think of now is running it again since you corrected the time in your bios
[07:15] <guglu> also the alignment of root@(none)# is weird
[07:16] <bak0un1n3> Hi, I've just lost one NIC after a power shutdown and reboot. The NIC completely disappeared (doest no show either via ifconfig -a nor lspci). Any thought ?
[07:17] <bak0un1n3> KUbuntu 11.04 / kernel 2.6.38-8 generic
[07:17] <superfirelord42> bak0un1n3: was it a proper shutdown? or a power loss?
[07:17] <bak0un1n3> a proper shutdown, followed by unpluging the power cable to move the machine to another room
[07:18] <superfirelord42> bak0un1n3: any chance the nic could have come loose physically? (just covering all my bases here)
[07:18] <guglu> nothing happens with esc Herbs , it just shows ^[
[07:18] <guglu> ^]
[07:18] <Herbs> guglu what about ctrl+c
[07:18] <sysdoc> bak0un1n3, LMAO!
[07:19] <ferni> remove nic, clear all the dust, reinstert nic. poweron
[07:19] <guglu> ^C
[07:19] <guglu> prints that
[07:19] <guglu> why did i upgrade yesterday ???????????? :'( ;_;
[07:19] <bak0un1n3> I've even remove I can't be sure it's not physically harmed, but the linkj led are green both sides (pc and router)
[07:19] <guglu> reinstalling would kill me
[07:20] <bak0un1n3> but I've tried booti,g from a live cd, it doesn't see the NIC either
[07:20] <bak0un1n3> it's an onboard nic
[07:20] <bak0un1n3> the pci plugged nic still works
[07:20] <mischief> perhaps it bit the dust, bak0un1n3.
[07:21] <Kevin_Flynn> Xubuntu desktop 10.10.  How do you change the color of a panel in Xfce?  Can it be changed to a gradient?
[07:21] <superfirelord42> bak0un1n3: it sounds like a hardware issue, especially if the live cd cannot see it. I assume it could see it prior to moving the computer
[07:22] <bak0un1n3> if not better idea, I'll remove the (working) PCI interface, try to boot with the onbard one only, and see if detected.... but would prefer other solution
[07:22] <Logan_> !xubuntu | Kevin_Flynn
[07:23] <bak0un1n3> yes, before the physical move, all was ok ... but it seems weird the move had any physical impact: since it's  an onboard card, it couldn't unplugged itself
[07:23] <superfirelord42> bak0un1n3: if the only difference is the move and it effects teh live cd detection, all i can think is either that, or possibly the bios reset if you had a bad battery in there. did you have to set up the time again?
[07:24] <bak0un1n3> no no setup time again, and the bios seems to see the card (the corresponding menu options are enabled)
[07:24] <Kevin_Flynn> ubottu, right.  Xubuntu is Ubuntu.  So, that's why I'm here.
[07:25] <Logan_> Kevin_Flynn: Xubuntu-specific support is in #xubuntu
[07:25] <bak0un1n3> I've already faced interface inversion (eth0->eth1 / eth1->eth0) when power shutdown/reboot, but never completely lost the nic
[07:26] <bak0un1n3> I've even remove the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file to clean the hardware info in it, and when recreated at boot, it contains only one interface (normal as the second one does ot appear in lspci)
[07:26] <bak0un1n3> could it be a driver issue? I don't remember if rebooted after updates
[07:27] <superfirelord42> bak0un1n3: but then why would the live cd not work anymore.... as far as i know, ubuntu only updates its software, no firmware updates
[07:27] <skilz> hey how do I change my hostname?
[07:27] <guglu> Herbs: can i not run my KDE from that bash ?
[07:27] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> aack
[07:28] <rww> !hostname | skilz
[07:28] <guglu> any kind of work around will do for me
[07:28] <guglu> just need it working PLEASE
[07:28] <guglu> Herbs: after doing update and upgrade yesterday, i was working just fine, these issues happened after a restart/reboot
[07:28] <guglu> Herbs: there ? :(
[07:29] <Loshki> bak0un1n3: anything which inadvertently flexes the motherboard during a move can cause failures. Also check the BIOS enable/disable settings for the onboard NIC....
[07:29] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> ok, I have Natty installed with Compiz, and a host of WM I want to pare down, and I cannot seem to get the ability to use pictures as my Cube Caps.  What am I missing?
[07:30] <Herbs> guglu I suspect the fact that fsck complained about the time that was incorrect in the bios that whats causing the issue is this is a scheduled fsck but its crashing due to the system time
[07:30] <guglu> what do we do now, Herbs ? still not working event tho i changed time and date in the BIOS
[07:31] <guglu> from that bash can i somehow not run KDE please ?
[07:31] <bak0un1n3> Loshki: the nic is enabled in bios settings, as time goes I'm more and more  afraid of an hardware issue
[07:31] <Herbs> guglu you could try running the fsck manually in /bin/bash again or diabling fsck schedules
[07:32] <guglu>  /sbin/fsck -y
[07:32] <guglu> ok, will do that
[07:32] <Peddy> is there a program that allows me to have different wallpapers for dual monitors?
[07:32] <guglu> how to disable ?
[07:32] <guglu> Herbs:
[07:32] <carpi> Hi. Is there any difference between using the update manager or aptitude for updating an ubuntu system?
[07:32] <skilz> I done sudo hostname router and now it says localhost
[07:32] <rww> carpi: no
[07:33] <Herbs> guglu I dont know how to diable off the top of my head if just reading the tune2fs man page
[07:33] <guglu> http://pastie.org/private/aibyrkb47ldpmrhbhnsyyq <-- this is what it says now compared to http://pastie.org/private/qqyreu0sqvw9i11zg1twwa <-- was saying before
[07:33] <carpi> rww: thank you for the clarification. But in that case, do you think that the "update manager" is redundant and can be safely removed if necessary?
[07:33] <rww> carpi: yup
[07:33] <mrdeb> do you think b spears may shave herself again
[07:34] <guglu> Herbs:
[07:34] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> Peddy>> check Xinerama to use one big desktop, and use Gimp to stitch two wallpapers together
[07:34] <Herbs> guglu try rebooting now
[07:35] <mrdeb> oops
[07:35] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> Peddy>> KDE and XFCE can do it
[07:35] <Peddy> iOSByDayUbuntuBy, GNOME actually can do "one big desktop' wallpaper natively now. I know I can do it in GIMP, but it's a hassle to have to do that every time I want to change wallpaper. Is there no automated GNOME way as of yet?
[07:35] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> Peddy>> not that I am aware
[07:36] <carpi> rww: thanks once again = ). I think i will uninstall it now. Other than the "update manager" and "unity" are there any other redundant packages you would remove on a fresh install of ubuntu natty?
[07:36] <carpi> rww: maybe synaptic?
[07:36] <Peddy>  iOSByDayUbuntuBy, thanks >.> I actually programmed a shell script that 'stitches' two images together for you, but tighter integration would be nice. Thanks again
[07:36] <rww> carpi: I'm probably not the best person to ask that question, I'd go with "most of them" ;)
[07:37] <george_e> Does anyone know the name of the package on Natty that puts an application's menu in the top panel?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-menu
[07:37] <carpi> haha.. i knew there was quite a lot of crud that had no place being on a default install of natty. i just wanted to make sure i didn't remove anything important.. But thank you anyways  + )
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> george_e: global menu I believe
[07:38] <george_e> ActionParsnip: That's the package name?
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> carpi: could install minimal then build up instead
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> george_e: something like that
[07:39] <guglu> Herbs: my /etc/fstab has no /dev/sda5 :(
[07:40] <guglu> and it has some line saying # Commented by Dropbox
[07:40] <Herbs> guglu to diable edit /etc/fstab and where you have ext* errors=remount-ro 0  1 change the 1 to 0
[07:40] <carpi> ActionParsnip: but i think that removes a lot of things. but its too late for me anyways. already have natty up and running, without a problem : )
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> carpi: fair dos
[07:41] <carpi> one more thing.. could someone please tell me what is "zeitgeist datahub"? I saw the words "passive logger" in the description and I'm thinking thats a cause for worry...
[07:42] <carpi> im thinking about disabling it in startup..
[07:42] <jon1> problem with hp laserjet 1020 on natty narwhal.  recognizes printer, lists job, shows job as completed, but nothing prints.  i've tried whatever i could find as help online, but i'm not able to get it to work.  anyone can guide me through this problem?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: delete the printer and unplug it. Grab latest HPLIP and install it. Reboot and connect printer
[07:44] <guglu> Herbs: yes, i read that on a forum, and was trying, but it says "readonly" file
[07:44] <guglu> and doesnt let me save
[07:44] <guglu> sudo doesnt work
[07:44] <Herbs> guglu then when youve done that run tune2fs -i 0 /dev/sda5
[07:44] <guglu> :(
[07:44] <Herbs> gulu you need to edit it as sudo
[07:44] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> How would I add the functionality in Compiz to set pictures as Cube Caps?
[07:44] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> All it shows is a color set
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: its in ccsm
[07:45] <guglu> sudo to any command says unable to resolve host (none)
[07:45] <guglu> Herbs:
[07:45] <Herbs> guglu oops nvm the file system is read only type mount -o remount,rw /
[07:45] <jon1> ActionParsnip: I think i've done this... maybe more than once.  how do i get the latest hplip and how do i install it?
[07:45] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> ActionParsnip>> CCSM?
[07:45] <guglu> are you sure Herbs
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: you can set image in the cube desktop plugin
[07:46] <ptremeka>  hello im an amateur C++ developer, im struggling how to figure out how to implement variables of an object such that whenever a variable changes, the object performs a particular action. Say the object has 4 variables, each triggering a different action
[07:46] <Herbs> guglu yup we didnt add rw when we booted /bin/bash
[07:46] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> ActionParsnip>> In the plugin, it gives only setting color
[07:46] <guglu> Herbs: this is the same issue i am having -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1303356
[07:47] <freshone> i want to play the game GTA san andreas on my ubuntu how can i do it i have the play on linux software... i have an image of the game and no cd. how do i proceed
[07:47] <freshone> image or iso file
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: you'll find the site and file easily. Mark it as executable and run it in a terminal as user.
[07:48] <guglu> Herbs: i am doing mount -o remount,rw / now
[07:48] <freshone> please help iam new to ubuntu
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: i believe it has option for image. You may need to expand a section
[07:48] <guglu> Herbs: says Internal Journal on sda5:8
[07:48] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> ActionParsnip>> i will look again
[07:48] <freshone> i want to play the game GTA san andreas on my ubuntu how can i do it i have the play on linux software... i have an imageor iso file of the game and no cd. how do i proceed
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> !piracy
[07:49] <guglu> EXT4-fs (sda5): internal journal on sda5:8
[07:49] <guglu> Herbs: do i need to do mount / -o remount,rw maybe ?
[07:49] <guglu> or they were same ?
[07:50] <Herbs> guglu no try touch test
[07:50] <ancha> xxx
[07:50] <guglu> yes that works
[07:50] <guglu> mount / -o remount,rw worked, i changed 1 to 0 in fstab
[07:50] <guglu> now reboot with ctrl+alt+delete, ok ? :)
[07:51] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> ActionParsnip>> Neither Top nor Bottom shows an expandable window like Skydome
[07:51] <guglu> Herbs:
[07:51] <Herbs> guglu yup
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: afaik the bottom isn't doable. I'm not o
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> On my pc now
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: could try asking in #compiz
[07:53] <ptremeka> any ideas?
[07:53] <avernos> where could i find the xorg configuration file to make a backup of it? to avoid xorg problems later on...
[07:53] <avernos> /usr/share?
[07:53] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> ActionParsnip>> Bummer, ah well, its only pretty.  Is there a way to remove the buttload of window managers I have in Options at login?  I seem to be missing it, have KDE, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Openbox, Gnome and KDE openbox
[07:53] <guglu> Herbs: no luck, this time it didnt fsck but same black screen
[07:53] <guglu> with just the cursor
[07:54] <harvi_svk> avernos:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:54] <guglu> now one thing, can i somehow not run KDE from the bash ?
[07:54] <avernos> thanks!
[07:54] <Herbs> guglu ok weve found out its not the fsck that is hanging it at least tail the last 20 of dmesg off and paste it to pastebin
[07:54] <Herbs> guglu your using kde?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: if you remove openbox it will remove the openbox options
[07:55] <guglu> Herbs: yes
[07:55] <guglu> dmesg is some command ? do i just run dmseg in the bash ?
[07:55] <guglu> dmesg*
[07:55] <Herbs> tail -20 /var/log/dmesg
[07:55] <avernos> harvi_svk, it isnt there. could me /etc/X11/X/ ?
[07:55] <guglu> ok, doing now
[07:56] <thor99> ActionParsnip: Maybe I'm missing something here, but didn't iOs(etc) install those other window managers? if so, then why not remove them from the pkg mgr?
[07:56] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> thor99>> So I could strip all of them out through pkg mgr?
[07:57] <thor99> I'm awaiting Parsnip's advice here...
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> thor99: does "remove openbox" not sound good? :-D
[07:57] <guglu> Herbs: ok, done. pastebinning wud be difficult job
[07:57] <kaushal> Hi
[07:57] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> ActionParsnip & thor99>> I removed open box through Software mgr, gonna switch users and see what is left
[07:57] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> brb
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: they are added by packages. Removing relevant packages removes them
[07:58] <Herbs> guglu ok will take a look you got the link?
[07:59] <thor99> Parsnip: OK, i see where you are coming from.
[07:59] <guglu> Herbs: it outputted 20 lines, i am thinking of how to pastebin
[07:59] <spark_> hello
[07:59] <guglu> umm, i dont think i can acces /var/log/dmesg from windows, hmm
[07:59] <nit-wit> iOSByDayUbuntuBy, you can use the top and bottom of the cube with the cube reflection and deformation plugin; set thr deformation at none to keeo the cube
[08:00] <nit-wit> *the keep
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: glad you got my back. I'm knackered
[08:00] <guglu> Herbs: can i access the file from windows ?
[08:00] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> Actionparsnip>> Ok, now I have no openbox, but retain Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, KDE plasma, Failsafe, and three Guest restricted
[08:00] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> nit-wit>> thank you
[08:01] <nit-wit> iOSByDayUbuntuBy, no problem.;)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: ok. What do you want to keep?
[08:02] <thor99> ActionParsnip which window manager, if any, do you yourself personally use most often?
[08:02] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> ActionParsnip>> Im finally happy with Ubuntu Classic (current) so I can lose KDE and XFCE, and I dont see a need for three Guest restricteds
[08:02] <harvi_svk> avernos: then they should be in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[08:03] <harvi_svk> avernos: all files in that folder
[08:03] <guglu> Herbs: take a look at http://pastie.org/private/8gy6sysg0ter5vyzugtlxa i will be updating it, have to write on paper and then edit that pastie
[08:03] <avernos> harvi_svk, .d means daemon?, its the same?
[08:03] <Herbs> guglu if you save it to an ntfs partition yes try tail -20 /var/log/dmesg > /path/to/ntfs/drive
[08:03] <harvi_svk> avernos: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37761/xorg-conf-in-ubuntu-natty-11-04
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> thor99: i use openbox on LXDE. I use Xpud a lot too which uses plateUI
[08:03] <avernos> ty
[08:03] <Herbs> and add a file name at the end of the path
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: search your packages for kde and remove them
[08:05] <iOSByDayUbuntuBy> ActionParsnip>> Removal or Complete?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: if you remove xfce4 it should remove XFCE
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> iOSByDayUbuntuBy: always complete
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: yourself?
[08:06] <Herbs> guglu I suspect theres an issue with kde displaying the login scree so what I would suggest is changing the run level to level 3 then hopefully you can login and reinstall kde
[08:07] <jon1> ActionParsnip:  Thanks!  That did it!
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: great!!
[08:08] <thor99> ActionParsnip: Mac OS X snow leopard.. right now I'm using virtualbox with an XP vm, Ubuntu VM... thinking of checking out Lubuntu, have you done so?
[08:08] <iFrenzy> hey does anyone know of a variant of ubuntu like mint or something that comes default with gnome 3?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: i co
[08:08] <guglu> Herbs: where to change that ?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Oop
[08:08] <Herbs> /etc/inittab
[08:08] <guglu> ok, i will try
[08:09] <jenvy> anyone know how to specify a command to execute when a user quits /exits out of an ssh session?
[08:09] <iFrenzy> rww: cheers my pal, btw I'm sorry about our little problem earlier, perhaps your comment was meant jokingly and I took it the wrong way
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: i contribute to it on the mailing list. I think its awesome
[08:09] <guglu> i dont have that file Herbs
[08:09] <thor99> ActionParsnip: I'm wondering how Xpud compares and contrasts w/ Lubuntu??
[08:09] <guglu> is it /etc/init Herbs  ?
[08:09] <Herbs> guglu ah doh ubuntu is different I dont know then Im used to Red Hat based distros
[08:10] <guglu> :(
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: it boots damn fast ( <3 secs) but has fewer default apps and drivers
[08:10] <iFrenzy> herbs: I've found ubuntu = more sudos and less sus haha
[08:10] <thor99> ActionParsnip: That's what I've read so far.  I've been a long time tech.. just a little rusty with some new developments with window managers and stuff these days
[08:11] <Herbs> iFrenzy yeah funny thing is /etc/inittab exists in Debian
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> iFrenzy: sudo -i == su
[08:11] <harvi_svk> iFrenzy: Im looking for something like that too. I just know that fedora5 got gnome3 as default
[08:11] <thor99> Parsnip: Ahh.. what's the size in K?... so Xpud is truly a minimalist thing
[08:11] <jon1> ActionParsnip: ha ha, now if you could only tell me how to get unity working with the nvidia accelerated graphics driver so i could see whether i want to use it or not
[08:11] <iFrenzy> harvi_svk: installing isn't that big of a pain, I just prefer it way more to unity and would love it as a default for when i install on other people's computers
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: my use is basic so xpud is great. Plus it loads quickly
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: which nvidia chip?
[08:12] <thor99> ActionParsnip: What are your specialties in computing?  you a basic nuts and bolts guy, jack of all trades, ???
[08:12] <iFrenzy> ActionParsnip: by the way remember the problem I was having earlier with my tv and hdmi, I finally fixed it by changing the port on my tv the cord was plugged in
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: networking and system monitoring. I can sling systems together too
[08:13] <thor99> Action: Great.. which beckons the question.. I'm wondering what restrictions nVidia has put out there.. i doubt they'd GPL it for Linux
[08:14] <guglu> Herbs: env DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL or env RUNLEVEL ?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> iFrenzy: ahh nice
[08:14] <guglu> found it in /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf , Herbs
[08:14] <Herbs> guglu default runlevel
[08:14] <iFrenzy> ActionParsnip: like there was 3 hdmi ports and moving it from 1 to 2 fixed the problem, I was like all these hours of trying to figure it out and this fixes it, I almost got pissed and didn't even watch the movie I was trying to watch haha
[08:14] <guglu> ok
[08:14] <guglu> it is 2
[08:14] <guglu> changing to 3
[08:14] <jon1> ActionParsnip: geForce 7025 / nForce 630a
[08:15] <ravionrails> i am unable to paste to terminal after ssh ing in another machine
[08:15] <Herbs> guglu yes change to 3 unless thats diff in ubuntu as well :(
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: not sure. I don't delve into that. I just use what i know works.
[08:15] <guglu> :(
[08:15] <iFrenzy> ravionrails: did you try ctrl + v
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:16] <ravionrails> iFrenzy, yup but of not use
[08:16] <thor99> Hmm, isn't it CTRL+SHIFT+V
[08:16] <thor99> or is SSH protecting this for sec reasons
[08:16] <guglu> Herbs: again "readonly" option is set issue
[08:16] <guglu> wut do ?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> ravionrails: +1 ctrl+shift+v
[08:16] <thor99> in all apps CTRL+V.. in Terminal add SHIFT.
[08:16] <carpi> when upgrading to the next version of ubuntu.. how do i carry over my installed programs and settings to the next version?
[08:17] <iFrenzy> thor99: never knew that
[08:17] <thor99> damn i worded that wrong.. haste makes waste.   you get the idea
[08:17] <iFrenzy> I guess I've never had a problem with that before htough
[08:17] <Herbs> guglu you mounted it as read only have you could you touch a file before?
[08:17] <ravionrails> i know that in terminal we use CTRL + SHIFT + C for copy and + V for paste
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> carpi: that will happen automagically
[08:17] <jon1> ActionParsnip: says it's already the latest cersion
[08:17] <iFrenzy> Did anyone know that they made nero burning rom for linux?
[08:17] <guglu> no i didnt try touch
[08:17] <thor99> carpi: Just go thru update
[08:17] <fretegi> so when loading the live cd, what does it mean when the boot process stops at a command line that says initramfs?
[08:17] <guglu> i wil better try touch /etc/inittab
[08:17] <guglu> and set env DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL=3 there
[08:17] <Herbs> guglu no dont do that
[08:18] <thor99> excuse me while I puke... the only Nero I respect is version 6 and lower
[08:18] <jon1> ActionParsnip: version
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: if you run nvidia-settings do you get an error?
[08:18] <RealOpty> iFrenzy, what nvidia card u have?
[08:18] <thor99> much better open source stuff
[08:18] <carpi> oh.. so i don't need to do any backup or installed programs and settings and what not?
[08:18] <bullgard4> It is difficult to quit the Banshee program in Natty. What is the proper way to terminate the execution of the Banshee program?
[08:18] <guglu> ok, so what shall i do now :(
[08:18] <carpi> *backup of* : )
[08:18] <Herbs> guglu just try touch test
[08:18] <iFrenzy> realopty: i don't i have intel
[08:18] <thor99> Carpi: It's ALWAYS recommended that you do a complete backup
[08:18] <guglu> ok, doing now
[08:18] <carnage1> photoshop 4 money
[08:18] <iFrenzy> thor99: didn't say it was good, I was just suprised they made it
[08:18] <thor99> and VERIFY said backup
[08:18] <ChrisA132> Has anyone ever used www.stealthtrades.com ?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Carpi: you should have a backup anyway!
[08:19] <thor99> That's ok frenzy.  was not attacking you :)
[08:19] <guglu> Herbs: cannot touch test: read-only file system
[08:19] <guglu> thats the error i get
[08:19] <JanetP> is there a better alternate for DIA .. or even better quality shapes for dia?
[08:19] <thor99> Parsnip: Have you messed around w/ OpenBSD?
[08:19] <Herbs> guglu then type mount -o remount,rw /
[08:20] <guglu> ok
[08:20] <iFrenzy> although I did run into a problem earlier but I know how i could fix it just didn't feel like taking the time, I had an .mp4 file that was 2 hours and 7 minutes long, but was only 1.1gb and brasero was telling me it was too big to burn
[08:20] <thor99> Being a Networking and security guy, i would think you might have. Also, have you tried out Zyxel's stuff (life besides Cisco!)
[08:20] <iFrenzy> was hoping there was a shorter way than convertering the file
[08:20] <iFrenzy> converting*
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: i have a pc-bsd cd laying around, never got to using it though
[08:20] <jon1> ActonParsnip: no error message.  but when i've tried to use unity i can't see any application or files listed, only a white screen where they should be
[08:21] <carpi> but storing all your data files in a seperate 'home' partition is a good enough backup.. .yes?
[08:21] <daniel> how would i delete a readonly directory in the comand line
[08:21] <RealOpty> does banshee support ALSA or is it pulseaudio only?
[08:21] <dean[w]> I just rebooted my ubuntu 10.10 and I've no sound. I've checked alsamixer and sound config to check to see if anything is muted but i can't see anything. What might be happening?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: can you change res and such using the app?
[08:22] <jon1> ActionParsnip: yes
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> carpi: its handy but drives can and do fail
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: do you have the unity addon enabled in ccsm?
[08:23] <guglu_> Herbs: no login screen :(
[08:23] <aar_on> Hi there, so my boot time is VERY long. Over three minutes! I have a paste of dmesg | less but I don't know what the problem is or how to fix it
[08:23] <aar_on> http://paste.ubuntu.com/613088/ for the log
[08:23] <Herbs> guglu is it blank?
[08:23] <thor99> Parsnip: Ok.. verify this for me.. daniel wants to del a readonly directory from commandline... shouldn't he just CD to working DIR, then rm -rf * ?
[08:23] <guglu_> ys
[08:23] <thor99> (don't do this yet, Daniel)
[08:23] <popey> aar_on: almost certainly a disk check was running
[08:23] <guglu_> Herbs: and i am guglu_ now, pls use that _ or i might miss msgs :(
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> aar_on: look for large gaps in the time on the left
[08:24] <popey> aar_on: see lines 711 and 712
[08:24] <guglu_> do i set it to 5 ?
[08:24] <guglu_> Herbs:
[08:24] <aar_on> yes
[08:24] <jon1> ActionParsnip: is that the unityshell plugin?
[08:24] <daniel> thor99, i would like to rmdir /Users/daniel
[08:24] <KaptenRodSkagg> anyone that can help me to install ubuntu 1104 on my vista computer?
[08:25] <daniel> thor99, but it says its read only
[08:25] <KaptenRodSkagg> i get stuck in BUSYBOX
[08:25] <Alostsoul> KaptenRodSkagg: im having a similar problem
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: its purple and mentions Unity. I'm not sure of the absolute wording. I'm on my phone on the way home from work
[08:25] <bullgard4> !install | KaptenRodSkagg
[08:25] <iFrenzy> wow i'm installing 11.04 on this old laptop i have the cd drive sounds like its eating the cd
[08:25] <thor99> Kapenten: I'm assuming you're trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows and using its partition resizing tool?
[08:26] <jon1> ActionParsnip: I'll check
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> thor99: could chmod it then delete
[08:26] <Alostsoul> ive just installed ubuntu while on windows xp (currently in ubuntu) but it has loaded saying my hard driveis about to fail however while in windows a chkdsk flags no bad blocks so im wondering if its a problem with the installation, is there any way of installing ubuntu while on ubuntu (essentialy i want ubuntui as the main OS)
[08:27] <thor99> Yeah, but there's more command switches to that, if he wants to delete the whole dang thing, rm -rf * CAREFULLY from the working directory should work just fine
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Jon1: enable it. Press Alt+F2 and run: compiz --replace
[08:28] <KaptenRodSkagg> thor99>> i have freespace (200gb) on my sata disk dedicated to ubuntu
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> thor99: sounds fine. Force may not be needed so try without first ;-)
[08:28] <thor99> ALostSoul: Interesting.. usually most OS's are not that S.M.A.R.T. drive aware
[08:28] <Alostsoul> can anyone help me make ubuntu my primary os?
[08:29] <iFrenzy> Alostsoul: where are you at now?
[08:29] <Alostsoul> iFrenzy: im on ubuntu
[08:29] <skilz> hi I got this error for coppermne photo gallery.
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Alostsoul: do you mean change grub to boot ubuntu first?
[08:29] <iFrenzy> Alostsoul: what do you mean by primary os? like you want it to boot by default or what?
[08:29] <Alostsoul> iFrenzy: but top right hand corner it has a HD and when i scroll over it it says my HD is failing
[08:29] <thor99> What specific error are you getting
[08:30] <Alostsoul> i mean i want ubuntu to not be installed from windows so i dont have to use wubi
[08:30] <bullgard4> It is difficult to quit the Banshee program in Natty. What is the proper way to terminate the execution of the Banshee program?
[08:30] <iFrenzy> bullgard4: what happens when you hit the x button?
[08:30] <Alostsoul> thor99: it just says one of my hard disks are failing
[08:31] <ravionrails> i think it's problem with nano or what
[08:31] <ravionrails> ssh pasting in terminal in a file
[08:31] <KaptenRodSkagg> thor99>> BusyBox starts (initramfs)
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Alostsoul: there are guides. It's not an easy job
[08:32] <thor99> If you indeed have bad sectors on your drive you'll need to run FSCK on it from a terminal
[08:32] <bullgard4> iFrenzy: Banshee still plays a song.
[08:32] <thor99> see the man page on FSCK or ask me for some parameters.
[08:32] <harvi_svk> !install  | Alostsoul
[08:32] <iFrenzy> bullgard4: stop the song first then close maybe?
[08:33] <Alostsoul> okay ty
[08:33] <iFrenzy> bullgard4: perhaps if you still have a song playing, it continues to run in the background because I know they have the controls programming into the volume controls at the top
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Alostsoul: its far easier to clean install then restore settings from your backups
[08:33] <iFrenzy> programmed*
[08:33] <Alostsoul> thor99: any specific arguments? it didnt really say much with the basic fsck command
[08:34] <thor99> Agreed.  Clean installs are the best and the way to go.
[08:34] <Alostsoul> ActionParsnip: how would i go about that? i dont have a disk only a 2gb pen drive, which i assume is too small to store the iso image?
[08:35] <carnage1> robinson carusoe
[08:35] <iFrenzy> Alostsoul: no definitely not the install files are less than 700mb
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Alostsoul: iso is only 700mb
[08:35] <thor99> SOUL: You just said you had an HD with errors on it.
[08:35] <Alostsoul> okie dokie soooo, download the iso, put the image on th pend drive and re-format/clean install from iso?
[08:35] <iFrenzy> thor99: I think he meant he didn't have any cd's to burn it to
[08:36] <zrbecker> Can I remove the gtk decorations from the chromium browser? I am using Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity.
[08:36] <Alostsoul> no i dont have a cd just a 2gb usb, though i can boot from usb i think
[08:36] <iFrenzy> alostsoul: you can't just put the image on the drive you have to use the usb creater tool
[08:36] <zrbecker> If I run in classic mode, chromium appears normal.
[08:36] <KaptenRodSkagg> thor99>> shure clean installs work best. but my dual boot dont work so i think that my clean install wount work either..
[08:36] <iFrenzy> alostsoul: its called startup disk creator
[08:37] <Alostsoul> iFrenzy: yes i seem to have that file on my pen drive already, let me go do some research and ill be back shortly
[08:37] <harvi_svk> zrbecker: i dont use chromium but isnt there an option to use themes? maybe it'll look better
[08:37] <Alostsoul> ty for your help
[08:37] <thor99> KaptenroddSkagg: Are you using GRUB for your boot loader?
[08:37] <iFrenzy> harvi_svk: yeah they have themes the default is fugly
[08:37] <steveccc> has anyone got a kindle? - I am looking for software to convert pdf to kindle doc format - does anyone know of any?
[08:38] <Alostsoul> iFrenzy: usb-creator is an exe :/
[08:38] <zrbecker> harvi_svk, I just want it changed for the one app. Everything else loosk fine.
[08:38] <iFrenzy> steveccc: you don't need software believe it or not amazon will do it for you
[08:38] <iFrenzy> steveccc: go to your kindle page on amazon and they're will be a username for your kindle
[08:38] <steveccc> ifrenzy: they will but they charge per mb to transfer it so I was ideally looking to convert on my laptop and copy via usb
[08:38] <KaptenRodSkagg> thor99>> i think so? standard 1104 bootloader, nothing changed
[08:38] <zrbecker> http://imgur.com/a/uJKIe Here is a compare and contrast between unity and classic.
[08:39] <thor99> Cool, Ifrenzy.  I did not know that re: the Kindle.
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Alostsoul: its in a default install. You don't need to download anything. Just run the command
[08:39] <iFrenzy> steveccc: it doesn't charge if the kindle is connected to wifi and you send it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:39] <Alostsoul> iFrenzy: will that mean i have to use windows to sort it? i wanted to do it through ubuntu if possible
[08:39] <Alostsoul> ActionParsnip: i dont understand, my usb-creator is an executable what command would it be?
[08:39] <iFrenzy> alostsoul: no there's a program in ubuntu called startup disk creator that will do it
[08:40] <harvi_svk> zrbecker: I mean this https://chrome.google.com/webstore?hl=en&category=theme. You can find simple but nice themes too
[08:40] <iFrenzy> steveccc: make sure you send it from your trusted email that's listed on your kindle page on amazon though
[08:40] <bullgard4> iFrenzy: Indeed, this is the solution. "It's a feature!" --  Thank you very much for your help.
[08:40] <Alostsoul> can i have the command or location please?
[08:40] <c0mrade316> QUESTION: I want to execute LEX & YACC programs..Using ubuntu 10.10.. What all packages i should install ? Pls help
[08:40] <zrbecker> Ah thanks, you got me looking in the right area. Its under preferences>under the hood in chromium
[08:40] <iFrenzy> bullgard4: you talking about the banshee thing?
[08:40] <bullgard4> iFrenzy: Yes sir.
[08:41] <ohshizlgizen> ?DCC SEND "ultimatekeylogger2001edition.exe" 0 0 0
[08:41] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Alostsoul: press alt+f2 and type: usb then wait. It will be suggested. Or you can install unetbootin and use that
[08:41] <c0mrade316> QUESTION: I want to execute LEX & YACC programs..Using ubuntu 10.10.. What all packages i should install ? Pls help
[08:41] <iFrenzy> bullgard4: well thanks, glad I could help
[08:41] <mr`vile> ?DCC SEND "ultimatekeylogger2001edition.exe" 0 0 0
[08:41] <bullgard4> !patience | c0mrade316
[08:42] <steveccc> ifrenzy: oh ok - thanks - will try that out - does it work well in your experience - techy books with diagrams etc
[08:42] <_Neytiri_> i am having a issue with making a ssh tunnel
[08:42] <_Neytiri_> it use to work for me and i didnt change anythign and now i cant get it to work
[08:42] <c0mrade316> Sorry.. Ty :)
[08:42] <Alostsoul> ActionParsnip: nothing showed up so i use apt-get unetbootin?
[08:42] <thor99> C0mrade: Have you tried doing an exhaustive google search on it?
[08:42] <bullgard4> !details | _Neytiri_
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Alostsoul: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[08:43] <_Neytiri_> i am getting this error in the terminal channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused
[08:43] <Alostsoul> ActionParsnip: ty
[08:43] <_Neytiri_> i am useing ssh -D 9999 -l USER IP
[08:43] <iFrenzy> alostsoul: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[08:43] <iFrenzy> actionparsnip: sorry i didn't see that
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Alostsoul: apt-get unetbootin  won't work
[08:44] <Alostsoul> iFrenzy: :P ty
[08:44] <schnuffle> Alostsoul: Try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[08:44] <iFrenzy> thor99: isn't lubuntu for really old hardware
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> iFrenzy: see what?
[08:44] <bullgard4> _Neytiri_: You should replace USER with the current user's name.
[08:44] <iFrenzy> actionparsnip: I told him to put sudo and you had already told him
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> iFrenzy: not strictly
[08:45] <Kruptein> Hey I'm packaging some .deb  where can I find which standars-version I have?
[08:45] <_Neytiri_> i replaced the username i connected to the server with with "USER" when i posted it for security reason
[08:45] <thor99> Ifrenzy: Yes and No.  It's optimized for speed with a lighter weight window manager, only loading necessary daemons, etc.  You should read for complete details
[08:46] <iFrenzy> thor99: I suppose it would be great for vms
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> iFrenzy: lubuntu can be used on high end systems too. It is designed to use few resources so low end systems do benefit from using it over gnome
[08:47] <thor99> Ifrenzy: but yeah, i've always leaned on the side of desiring an OS that's lightweight.  Believe it or not, there is at least one Linux distro that can still run on an 8088
[08:47] <iFrenzy> thor99: what like puppy or something?
[08:47] <c0mrade316> QUESTION: What is the diff b/w flex and flex-old
[08:47] <thor99> Heh, ActionParsnip cuts my detail level to readable :)
[08:47] <iFrenzy> thor99: and if you like lightweight I got an xp install cd that's only 100mb
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> iFrenzy: similar but ubuntu based, although lucid puppy can use ubuntu repos. Very strange
[08:48] <Kruptein> ActionParsnip: do you know how I can find the current standards-version (packaging)
[08:48] <thor99> IFrenzy: Ohh good grief, I do so much damn reading I'd have to look into it..
[08:48] <iFrenzy> thor99: I use it for running netflix on linux
[08:48] <_Neytiri_> bullgard4,  any idea why i cant get it to work?
[08:49] <thor99> OK.. here's a decent article:
[08:49] <_Neytiri_> it use to work and now it doesnt and nothing hcanged that i am aware of
[08:49] <thor99> or a good article, rather:   http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=727991
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Kruptein: not something I've done. I know checkinstall can make deb from compiled source
[08:49] <thor99> ugh... TinyURL would have come in handy
[08:49] <Kruptein> ActionParsnip: okay thanks anyway
[08:50] <iFrenzy> I just clicked the link...
[08:50] <coconutz> $a=echo $1 | sed -e 's/[^[:alnum:]|-]//g'
[08:50] <coconutz> ideas how to fix it?
[08:50] <bullgard4> _Neytiri_: My idea is that the error should reflect in an error log. I was searching for you where this log is. So far I have not yet succeeded.
[08:50] <MarkAng> Hey all.
[08:50] <coconutz> i want to strip from url the chars and get it into a valid folder name
[08:50] <thor99> morning Mark
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> iFrenzy: also look into slitaz and tinycore if you want light and fast :). Xpud boots really fast and is pretty good too :x
[08:51] <_Neytiri_> a increased load on the server shouldnt cause it tho?
[08:51] <schnuffle> coconutz: which chars?
[08:51] <daniel> ok so lets say its root/user/userone is user the parent directory or is root?
[08:51] <iFrenzy> Actionparsnip: all my stuff is atleast dual core, I don't have any 8088 or 8086's laying around
[08:51] <coconutz> url2folder name
[08:51] <coconutz> ;)
[08:52] <coconutz> without http
[08:52] <joostv> Question: I have no HDMI sound output, aplay -l output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/613095/. Been searching for a solution for a while now but couldn't find anything.
[08:52] <iFrenzy> joostv: have you went to sound settings and changed it from analog to digital?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> iFrenzy: they run on nice fast cpus too
[08:52] <MarkAng> I have a question (not very urgent, would like an answer though) about grub. I want to remove my ubuntu install (because it´s taking up my last two primary partitions), but when I delete it I also delete grub, making my windows unavailable. Would any of you recommend any software to reinstall the windows 7 MBR again, from within windows?
[08:52] <iFrenzy> markang: download easybcd
[08:53] <MarkAng> I´ve heard about that, does it actually delivers what it promises?
[08:53] <joostv> iFrenzy: there's no such option in the sound preferences
[08:53] <iFrenzy> markang: yes it does, I just used it 3 days ok on my wife's computer as a matter of fact
[08:53] <iFrenzy> markang: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
[08:53] <ht_> 哈罗
[08:53] <MarkAng> Alrighty, already installed EasyBCD.
[08:53] <Alostsoul> okay thanks again guys im feeling pretty optimistic, ive managed to get unetbootin to copy the iso over the usb so hopefully afetr switching the boot order on my bios everything should run smoothly, cant wait to be back ubuntu full time XD
[08:53] <KaptenRodSkagg> anyone haveing a ide to find SATA disk in boot menu?
[08:53] <Alostsoul> happy happy
[08:53] <MarkAng> Just wanted to hear if it was any good.
[08:54] <MarkAng> Thanks iFrenzy!
[08:54] <iFrenzy> markang: well then just click on whichever version of windows you have to replace the mbr and you should be fine
[08:54] <thor99> MarkAng: Put in the Windows7 Install Disk, hit F10 at bootup, repair the master boot record
[08:54] <iFrenzy> thor99: easybcd is way quicker and you don't have to have an install cd
[08:54] <MarkAng> I have no install disk. Not anymore, at least. I think I´ll go with iFrenzy´s solution ;-)
[08:55] <iFrenzy> thor99: not to mention with most of the computers they sell these days they don't even give you a windows cd
[08:55] <MarkAng> Thanks, gentlemen.
[08:55] <thor99> IFrenzy: Thanks dude, I'll have to check that out!
[08:56] <thor99> IFrenzy: So true.  I'm so used to having my retail copy it's like 2nd nature.
[08:57] <thor99> IFrenzy: However, it's a pipe-dream, but it'd be a great day when Windows is eclipsed in popularity
[08:57] <thor99> by linux
[08:58] <JanetP> is there a better alternate for DIA .. or even better quality shapes for dia?
[08:58] <iFrenzy> thor99: it already has in some countries, and I hate buying software hence I always use linux or perhaps some version of windows you'd find on a pirate's leg
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: why? Linux is not always the answer
[08:59] <thor99> Ifrenzy: Yeah, I'm aware that China and India rely more on open source
[08:59] <iFrenzy> thor99: and a lot of underdeveloped countries as well
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: users should use the OS to suit their needs
[09:00] <thor99> ActionParsnip: That's the problem.. think in a different paradigm where Windows isn't de facto standard and on top.
[09:00] <iFrenzy> I do wish they would improve the wine functionaility
[09:01] <thor99> Action: Let's compare the security of Linux to Windows, tho
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: that is moot. If mac can do the systems intended job better than windows and linux and money is no object. Why choose Linux when it is the inferior choice, and so on
[09:03] <thor99> We haven't defined enough for the point to be moot!
[09:04] <thor99> I see your point, and I agree with you.  I see the OS as a tool to get the job done
[09:04] <thor99> but, when some tools are more polished and sophisticated than others are
[09:04] <schnuffle> coconutz: sed -e '{s/http:\/\///g;s/[^[:alnum:]|-]//g}'
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: the OS should be chosen on merit, not Linux because you happen to like it
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: so it is moot
[09:05] <thor99> What do you think I'm describing?
[09:07] <newubuntu> i was wondering if anyone likes to program in c on ubuntu?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> Thor99: you want more users to use Linux than windows. That's fine. It may happen but not all needs are met by one OS so whichever OS is used more isn't terribly interesting as people will use the OS suiting what they want the system for
[09:08] <schnuffle> newubuntu: not me, but there're a lot
[09:08] <GASUZAURIO> Hola a todos
[09:08] <schnuffle> !sp | GASUZAURIO
 haber si me puedes orientar con algo
[09:09] <A_J> Hello All, Can Someone Recommend me a Copy Paste Handler for Ubuntu. something like teracopy on the windows side.
[09:09] <schnuffle> !es | GASUZAURIO
[09:09] <newubuntu> on windows i used to write code on a program called "Turbo C" but on ubuntu all i have is the terminal, i want a similar program for ubuntu
[09:09] <coz_> A_J,   what issues are you having with copy paste functions on ubuntu now?
[09:10] <joostv> Question: I have no HDMI sound output, aplay -l output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/613095/. Been searching for a solution for a while now but couldn't find anything.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> !ide | newubuntu
[09:10] <A_J> hey coz_  nothing much, but i want something to que files as i add them. Plus the current handler stops without any reason
[09:11] <newubuntu> actionparsnip: what?
[09:11] <coz_> joostv,  you might also want to log onto both the #alsa channel and #pulseaudio,,
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Newubuntu those are guis to help code
[09:11] <joostv> coz_: I'll do that right away, thank you
[09:11] <newubuntu> ubottu: m actually a beginner, so please could u enlighten me on everything uve written after emacs :P ??
[09:12] <flowbee> once you set the rc.locals or whatever to make the /etc/init.d/ script active on startup... if i modify the script do i need to redo that rc.locals command?
[09:12] <schnuffle> newubuntu: what do want to do with a IDE?
[09:12] <A_J> coz_,  something like this : http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/698/teracopy8026572zy6.gif
[09:12] <newubuntu> ubottu: still!
[09:12] <flowbee> or will it just work
[09:12] <uri> Question: how do I make my Ubuntu box to appear on the Windows network (Windows DNS server, Windows DHCP server, Windows peers)?
[09:13] <schnuffle> flowbee: no
[09:13] <newubuntu> ubotto: what is umbrello?
[09:13] <schnuffle> !samba | uri
[09:13] <iFrenzy> ok this is weird, I just put a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04 on my other laptop and now when it comes up i log in and i can see the background and pointer but unity never loans
[09:13] <iFrenzy> loads
[09:13] <schnuffle> newubuntu: ubottu is a roboter
[09:14] <coz_> A_J,  check out glipper   let me see if I can find a link
[09:14] <newubuntu> schnuffle: whats a roboter"
[09:14] <newubuntu> ?
[09:14] <A_J> newubuntu,  a BOT as u=in robot
[09:14] <TheLostSoul> okay im back, for some reason my computer wouldnt boot from the usb, i tried in 3 different orders as my bios has the following usb boot options - USB-FDD/USB-ZIP/USB-CD-ROM but neone of the 3 booted, i ran the unetboot and coppied the ubuntu-1386.iso over to the usb in the proper manner, anyone have any ideas as why my PC doesnt boot into the usb?
[09:14] <schnuffle> newubuntu: it's a script that can be triggered to do some output, so when I use !ot ubottu will write a message to the channel
[09:14] <iFrenzy> and ideas on unity not loading?
[09:15] <A_J> coz_,  glipper is a clipboard manager mate
[09:15] <schnuffle> !ubottu
[09:15] <newubuntu> oh i see
[09:16] <avernos> in 11.04 i cant find under appareance the tab that was used to effects. how can i access this?
[09:16] <uri> schnuffle, ubottu: I'm not  even talking about file sharing. Just simple DNS recognition, so I can ping, ssh (and later git) from Windows peer machines