[03:12] <viator> it should be under applications>internet
[03:12] <dan2> that's retarded
[03:12] <THX-1138> Bacaruda  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/793048   <-- xorg.conf
[03:12] <dan2> units is broken
[03:12] <dan2> how do I file a bug on a program that is in stable
[03:12] <Dr_willis> m0,  its restricting access to ONLY root - i think
[03:13] <Wyzard> m0: Because you probably don't want ordinary users to be able to look at the VPN configuration
[03:13] <Wyzard> m0: for security reasons
[03:13] <m0> Wyzard: Ah okaythanks
[03:13] <m0> Wyzard: now I will test this vpn tomorroww
[03:13] <dh-laptop> does anyone here know of a good reference for built in webcams in linux?
[03:13] <m0> Thanks  :)
[03:15] <m0> I really don't get why linux is structured this way
[03:15] <m0> why is there /usr/bin
[03:15] <m0> and /usr/local/bin
[03:15] <m0> same thing as why is there /opt/ and why is there /etc/opt/
[03:15] <matti> m0: Google, and find the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard).
[03:15] <m0> matti: okay will do that
[03:15] <matti> m0: You'll got your answer then :)
[03:16] <stevarino> hey all, having a nasty issue with mounting a smb share that eventually locks up my whole system - 'smbumount' and 'pkill smb' does nothing to fix
[03:16] <Bacaruda> THX-1138 sorry I was AFK so I just use that as my xorg.conf to enable the xcompmgr
[03:16] <basscr> i need help with the jdbc driver of mysql, i'm using netbeans, and it tells me - ClassNotFoundException: com.mysql.jdbc.Driver
[03:16] <jUggERNAUt1980> can someone help me with configuring network-manager?
[03:16] <THX-1138> Bacaruda - Back up your own xorg file somwhere okay?
[03:16] <Bacaruda> yeah of course
[03:17] <THX-1138> Bacaruda here is the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527   The link on options
[03:17] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: It doesn't really need configuring...  what are you trying to do with it?
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's what i thought.  i installed it and got the applet to run on startup, but it doesn't show that i have a wireless connection at all, but i'm connected wirelessly through networking
[03:18] <rmorris84> do u not know who i am!? he must not know who i am!
[03:18] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i connected to the wifi network i'm currently on manually, but i want nm to handle it for me and "sniff out" other networks in my vicinity.
[03:19] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: If you're already connected to a wireless network then you've done some configuring of other things already...  what were you using for wireless network control before NM?
[03:19] <viator> jUggERNAUt1980 make sure newrk monitor
[03:19] <dan2> Why is units broken in Dapper Drake?
[03:19] <viator> is on the correct interface
[03:19] <crimsun> dan2: can you be more specific?
[03:19] <Wyzard> viator: It manages all network interfaces
[03:20] <viator> i mean make sure its on wlan0 or eth1
[03:20] <dan2> crimsun: see the paste I made above
[03:20] <viator> instread of eth0
[03:20] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i set it up through system-->administration-->networking
[03:20] <rmorris84> i have a question i had a lil thingy (nooobish term i knowww) up by my calendar that when i clicked it it showed wireless networks around me and i accidently removed it how do i get that back?
[03:20] <Wyzard> viator: You don't run it on a particular interface...  it looks at all the interfaces in the system and handles configuring each of them as needed
[03:20] <viator> wyzard yes
[03:20] <viator> but
[03:21] <viator> if i have it on eth0
[03:21] <viator> it wont show me what eth1 is doing
[03:21] <m0> anyone here used Cisco VPN Client?
[03:21] <m0> Is there any gui?
[03:21] <Wyzard> You're missing the point...  you don't tell it to run on a single particular interface
[03:21] <viator> untill i select eth1
[03:21] <Wyzard> You don't *tell* it to run on eth0
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, when i right click on the nm icon, it shows me a disconnected wired connection, but not a wireless one.
[03:21] <viator> ugh
[03:21] <viator> no you type
[03:21] <viator> eth1
[03:22] <viator> or eth0
[03:22] <viator> into the little box
[03:22] <viator> or use the dropdown
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, and it doesn't give me any other options except about and remove
[03:22] <Wyzard> viator: Are we talking about the same program?
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator is right, you can manually switch between wlan0 or ath0 if you want to, depending on which controller you want it to manage.
[03:23] <Wyzard> You can manually switch, but you do it by picking "wired connection" or a wireless network from a pop-up menu, not by typing "eth0" or "eth1" in a text box
[03:23] <jUggERNAUt1980> but it doesn't even do that, so i'm thinking that i need to manually configure nm to do what it's supposed to do automatically.
[03:23] <Wyzard> In your case it sounds like it's just not seeing your wireless interface
[03:23] <ChrisWhite> http://www.gen2net.net/images/ubuntu.png
[03:23] <ChrisWhite> mmm darkness :D
[03:24] <Wyzard> Unfortunately, this is sort of a distro-specific thing, and I'm more of a Debian user than an Ubuntu user
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's what it looks like.
[03:24] <Wyzard> but in Debian at least, NM ignores interfaces that are configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:24] <viator> jUggERNAUt1980 do you have the little monitor scrren icons on your panel
[03:24] <viator> ?
[03:24] <Wyzard> which I think is what that thing on the Administration menu configures, though I haven't used that
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, yes, with a little exclamation point on it.
[03:25] <viator> if you double click on that
[03:25] <viator> and choose the proper interface does it change?
[03:25] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, left click shows deselected wired connection, right click shows enable networking menu thing
[03:25] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, double-clicked, nothing happened.
[03:25] <viator> left click
[03:25] <viator> then
[03:26] <viator> and change the interface
[03:26] <viator> is yours wlan0 or ath0 etc?
[03:26] <viator> just type it intothe drop down box
[03:26] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, the only item in the menu when i left click shows greyed out wired network.
[03:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, my wifi is set to ath0, but it doesn't show in there.
[03:27] <viator> can you amnually type it
[03:27] <viator> into the box
[03:27] <Tidus> i have a question.  i have a Linksys WPC54G v.2, and i'm trying Kobalt's method on the forums, without much success.... anybody willing to help me get the wifi on my laptop working?
[03:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, nope
[03:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> is there a config file that i'll have to edit?
[03:28] <viator> if you click configure
[03:28] <viator> there
[03:28] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, no configure option.
[03:28] <viator> ummm
[03:28] <viator> weird
[03:28] <jUggERNAUt1980> i know there's something i'm missing here
[03:28] <HabaKKuk> excusemoi
[03:29] <jUggERNAUt1980> i just set it up, did the apt-get on network-manager and natwork-manager-gnome.
[03:29] <viator> wyzard it says connection then underneath says name:
[03:29] <jUggERNAUt1980> i didn't get any errors on that install, but it isn't showing what i expect.
[03:29] <viator> then a box
[03:29] <viator> to the right
[03:29] <viator> you CAN type in ther ya know
[03:30] <Wyzard> viator: I click on the icon and I get a popup listing the two wired adapters (there's no wireless in my Ubuntu box)
[03:30] <Wyzard> viator: One's selected, the other's grayed out because there's no cable plugged into that one, and those are the only choices
[03:30] <viator> ill take a screen shot for you
[03:30] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, u gonna pastebin that?
[03:30] <Wyzard> viator: If I right-click I can get a "connection information" menu that shows me that I'm using eth1 and tells me my IP address, but there's no input box there
[03:30] <Tidus> i have a question.  i have a Linksys WPC54G v.2, and i'm trying Kobalt's method on the forums, without much success.... anybody willing to help me get the wifi on my laptop working?
[03:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, u gonna pastebin that??
[03:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> sorry, wrong button
[03:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, what's your wifi chipset?
[03:31] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: TI ACX111
[03:31] <dh-laptop> he guys
[03:31] <dh-laptop> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:624f Microdia
[03:32] <dh-laptop> how can i tell what /dev/* this is?
[03:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, i'm not familiar with that one, is it linux-friendly?  what's your lappy?
[03:32] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: dapper has the drivers, but the firmware they try to load isn't the right one
[03:33] <Tidus> and my laptop is an old Fujitsu Lifebook... p2-233 with 160mb ram
[03:33] <micahcowan> When running ubuntu server edition, logged in via ssh, what is the preferred method for deactivating services for startup? Is it best to do remove symlinks from the runlevel directories by hand, or is there a utility similar to chkconfig, etc?
[03:33] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, do you have the disc with the drivers for that chipset?  you'll probably have to use ndiswrapper.
[03:33] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: i do have the driver cd, but i'm trying to avoid ndiswrapper if possible.
[03:34] <Wyzard> micahcowan: man update-rc.d
[03:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, yeah, that's understandable, but i don't know of another way.
[03:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, ewww....p2??  ewwwww.....
[03:35] <Dr_willis> P.2 :P
[03:35] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: it was free...
[03:35] <micahcowan> Wyzard, thanks very much.
[03:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, we all like free!  :)
[03:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, i pay out the azz for my shiat
[03:35] <etzerd> Hello all
[03:36] <etzerd> what's the topic tonight?
[03:36] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, toshiba satellite a105-s2081
[03:36] <etzerd> I have a question
[03:36] <viator> http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n136/viamptor/Screenshot2.png
[03:37] <new2linx> how do i use pastebin
[03:37] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: FWIW, "sudo less /var/log/syslog" and search for the word "Network"...  might give you some insight into why the NM daemon is ignoring your wireless interface
[03:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, thanks, i'll try that
[03:37] <Wyzard> viator: aha...  that's Network Monitor, not Network Manager  :-)
[03:37] <jay_> do the open source ati drivers support aiglx?
[03:37] <viator> ah see
[03:38] <Wyzard> viator: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[03:38] <etzerd> I have a SHARP LCDTV 23" Whide screen the higher resolution for it is 1360X768
[03:38] <linuxcrazy> this is incredible, 851 people in ONE channel?!
[03:38] <linuxcrazy> it's outrageous
[03:38] <Wyzard> viator: There's a screenshot on that page of what jUggERNAUt1980 and I are seeing
[03:38] <kyja> I still want my bcm3206 to work at 54g instead of 11b
[03:38] <viator> yeah the network monitor you can choose the interface by typing in that box
[03:38] <viator> i see we were talking bout 2 diff things
[03:38] <etzerd> when I use Gnome the higher resolution I can set it up is 1280X768 which I believe is a 4:3 standard not a 16:9 standard
[03:39] <Rug> I am ahving a problem with nvidia & X.  I get the nvidia logo at boot, but I can't run glxinfo.
[03:39] <etzerd> is there's a way I can set up to a higher resolution using Gnome
[03:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> has anyone gotten a wintv pvr150 working without using mythtv?
[03:41] <viator> network manager is just the thing under sys admin networking
[03:41] <etzerd> nobody wants to help me out?
[03:41] <Rug> etzerd: You can manually edit your sorg.conf file
[03:41] <viator> i thought that was installed by default
[03:41] <viator> i didnt install it just came with dapper
[03:41] <Wyzard> viator: nope, that's something different too
[03:41] <Wyzard> viator: It's confusing, I know
[03:41] <viator> looks the same
[03:42] <etzerd> rug: I manually edit xorg.conf to set it up to 1280X768 not sorg.conf
[03:42] <Wyzard> viator: Install network-manager and network-manager-gnome, then run "nm-applet &" from a shell and look in your tray
[03:42] <etzerd> where sorg.conf is stored?
[03:42] <Rug> ack, sorry typo
[03:42] <otis> hey everyone.  I am trying to build the last mono on dapper and am getting an error.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:42] <dh-laptop> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:624f Microdia
[03:42] <lmosher> my screen just goes blank when I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1. It never did this before I installed the 'nvidia' drivers (it works fine under the 'nv' driver)
[03:42] <dh-laptop> how do I make this /dev/video0
[03:42] <Bacaruda> hmm Im having a problem with running .sh files Im trying to download a couple of game demos and they are .SH and when I click them nothing happens
[03:42] <jay_> do the ati open source drivers support aiglx?
[03:42] <baconbacon> etzerd: did you look at system -> preferences -> resolution
[03:43] <zack_> how do i get to the multimedia settings?
[03:43] <unfknblvbl> Bacaruda: sudo -i
[03:43] <etzerd> I did baconbacon, whatever on xorg.conf that's what you see there on resolution
[03:43] <Bacaruda> sudo -i then the file name?
[03:43] <unfknblvbl> Bacaruda: sh ./FILENAME.sh
[03:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, syslog says no DHCPOFFERS received
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> sudo -i to get you into superuser mode or whatever it is
[03:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's dhcp client 3.03
[03:44] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: On your wireless interface?
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> and then the sh ./FILENAME.sh to ru the FILENAME.sh file
[03:44] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Look for stuff from NetworkManager
[03:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, yes.
[03:44] <baconbacon> etzerd: well xorg shoud detect available resolutions so yes you see what's in xorg.conf...
[03:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> ok, i'll keep looking down for networkmanager in here.
[03:44] <viator> hah says networking disabled
[03:44] <Rug> !nvidia
[03:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:45] <zack_> how do i get to the multimedia settings in dapper?
[03:45] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's localhost dhclient
[03:45] <etzerd> baconbacon: let me ask you this? which of the two GUI is best Gnome or KDE?
[03:45] <viator>  * Stopping DHCP client manager...                                       [fail]
[03:45] <baconbacon> etzerd: if you changed monitor or video card, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to setup x again
[03:45] <viator> thats why prolly
[03:45] <MrNaz> whats the default window manager in ubuntu? kde or gnome?
[03:46] <baconbacon> ubuntu -> gnome, kubuntu -> kde
[03:46] <krazykit> MrNaz: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde, xubuntu uses xfce
[03:46] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Don't look at lines from the DHCP client...  look for lines that begin with "NetworkManager: <information>"
[03:46] <charles_> i'm trying to extract files to a folder and it tells me Extraction not performed you don't have the right permissions to extract arcives in the folder "/usr/local/games/enemy-territory"  what should i do?
[03:46] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, ok looking
[03:46] <MrNaz> thanks guys
[03:46] <unfknblvbl> however KDE has more of a child look
[03:46] <lmosher> my screen just goes blank when I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1. It never did this before I installed the 'nvidia' drivers (it works fine under the 'nv' driver)
[03:46] <dh-laptop> how can I make this /dev/video0?
[03:46] <dh-laptop> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:624f Microdia
[03:46] <baconbacon> unfknblvbl: and gnome as more of an old look ? :P
[03:47] <stevarino> hey all, having a nasty issue with mounting a smb share that eventually locks up my whole system - 'smbumount' and 'pkill smb' does nothing to fix
[03:47] <MrNaz> oh crap i started a religious war :P
[03:47] <baconbacon> nah
[03:47] <unfknblvbl> baconbacon: yeh, but you can mod gnome to look modern, the human theme is modern gnome
[03:47] <MrNaz> yea... its not really a war.... gnome won already so its more just yelling from the losing side
[03:48] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i'm seeing a lot of hdc command errors in here.
[03:48] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, should i be worried about that?
[03:48] <charles_> i'm trying to extract files to a folder and it tells me Extraction not performed you don't have the right permissions to extract arcives in the folder "/usr/local/games/enemy-territory"  what should i do?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> charles_,  you can install the game to the users home dir if you wanted to.
[03:48] <viator> ugh that thing killed gnome pwere manager
[03:48] <Dr_willis> charles_,  or install it as root for everyone.
[03:48] <viator> i had to restart it
[03:48] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Possibly, but it depends on specifically what they are
[03:48] <baconbacon> unfknblvbl, MrNaz im moving this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:48] <charles_> how do i install as root?
[03:48] <etzerd> baconbacon: let me ask you this? which of the two GUI is best Gnome or KDE?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> run the installer as root
[03:49] <Wyzard> viator: That's weird...  I run it alongside g-p-m with no problems
[03:49] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, DriveReadySeekComplete error
[03:49] <viator> it was greyed out for me too
[03:49] <viator> anyway
[03:49] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Yes, that's a problem...  could be a defective cable, or could be a dying drive
[03:49] <malice_> anyone know of a url that will tell me a plug and play PDA for ubuntu?
[03:49] <lmosher> Another way to phrase my question: How do I specify the resolution of my TTY? FOr whatever reason when I switched to the nvidia driver my TTY stoped working
[03:50] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard!  this is a new lappy out of the box tho!  scary!!
[03:50] <krazykit> lmosher: it's a kernel config, as i recall.
 Rumour has it ubuntu is sooo much easier
[03:50] <raiXer> is that true?
[03:50] <lmosher> krazykit, Any more info on that?
[03:50] <charles_> okay whats my home dir?
[03:50] <baconbacon> raiXer: yes.
[03:50] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Well, at least if it's new you probably don't have lots of important data on it (yet) that you'd lose if the drive died
[03:50] <krazykit> lmosher: it's been ages since i've had to set it.  nope.  you could search on the ubuntu and gentoo wikis, though.  both are excellent resources
[03:50] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, glass half full then?
[03:50] <malice_> !pda
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Find out which company manufactured the hard drive, go to their website, and see if they have a diagnostic tool you can download...  it'll probably be in the form of an ISO that burns a bootable CD
[03:51] <lmosher> krazykit, which ubuntu wiki? help.ubuntu.org?
[03:51] <Mystilleef_> Does anyone know where the Java path is on Ubuntu?
[03:51] <baconbacon> raiXer: but remember you're asking in the ubuntu support channel :)
[03:51] <krazykit> lmosher: uh, i guess
[03:51] <charles_> Dr_willis Where should i install it to start?
[03:51] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Use that to test the drive for problems...  you might need to get it replaced
[03:51] <viator> juggernaut you using a native linux driver
[03:51] <Bacaruda> is there a way to edit what appears in the menus on GNOME?
[03:52] <viator> or ndiswraaper or linuxtant
[03:52] <unfknblvbl> Bacaruda: right-click on the ubuntu logo in the top left and go edit menu
[03:52] <Wyzard> I think NM supports most wireless drivers these days, though some esoteric ones might not be supported
[03:52] <charles_> where should i install a program so i don't need to be root to extract files there later?
[03:52] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard thanks for that!  :)
[03:53] <Bacaruda> thx
[03:53] <viator> i have the driverloader
[03:53] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Good thing NM didn't work right, or you would never have looked and seen that  :-)
[03:53] <unfknblvbl> np
[03:53] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, heck yes!
[03:53] <Dr_willis> charles_,   i just install it in the users home dir. since i dont want it installed system wide
[03:54] <charles_> I get what your saying but i don't know which is user wide and what is specific to my user
[03:55] <viator> does ubuntu support the BCM4318 even through ndiswraaper yet
[03:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, my bluetooth seems to be working ok, but i don't have anythig that connects via bluetooth!  :P
[03:56] <viator> last time i looked it didnt
[03:56] <stevarino> how do i go about installing zsnes :)
[03:56] <SpacePuppy> rofl
[03:56] <charles_> because the dir /usr/local/games/ i thought would have been for my user only but i need to be root to extract there so what would the path be?
[03:57] <Dr_willis> charles_,  try /home/username/games or somthiong
[03:57] <Dr_willis> or run the installer with sudo
[03:57] <charles_> ty
[03:57] <Dr_willis> logical eh.
[03:57] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: It's possible that your wireless chipset just isn't supported, which is why I asked you to look for informational messages from NetworkManager in syslog
[03:57] <charles_> sorry i don't mean to be a pain, i've very new to linux
[03:58] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, the chipset seems to be fine, but i see this message in syslog:  NetworkManager: <WARNING>^I nm_dbus_get_networks_cb (): nm-dbus-nmi.c:522 (nm_dbus_get_networks_cb): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - There are no wireless networks stored..
[03:58] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: On my Ubuntu box I see messages in syslog saying that NetworkManager has found both eth0 and eth1 and that they're fully-supported
[03:58] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i see those messages for eth0 only, but not ath0
[03:58] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: That doesn't look like the root cause of a problem...  looks like something's asking for a list of wireless networks, and NM can't respond because it doesn't know about any
[03:59] <charles_> i am running with sudo but when i do the extract i'm doing it without terminol and i don't know how to use sudo then
[03:59] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's how i interpreted it, too.  it doesn't seem to be trying to access ath0 at all, but i'm on wirelessly right now.
[03:59] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: What type of wireless chipset do you have?
[03:59] <Half-Left> charles_, you could just do sudo nautilus --no-desktop and extract the files like normal
[03:59] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Atheros 5212 by any chance?
[03:59] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i just want it because i'm mobile and don't have my own network
[03:59] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's exactly it!
[04:00] <jUggERNAUt1980> atheros 5212
[04:00] <viator> network manager  i cant even see any interfaces
[04:00] <viator> and i have 2
[04:00] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2004-November/msg00085.html
[04:00] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: but that's from nearly two years ago, so I'm surprised if it still doesn't work
[04:00] <Bluhd> How do I add an OpenGL rendering context into a Glad interface?
[04:00] <charles_> half-left i have no idea what that means
[04:00] <Bluhd> *Glade
[04:00] <Half-Left> charles_, run sudo nautilus --no-desktop from the terminal
[04:00] <Wyzard> Bluhd: There's a "libgtkgl" library that gives you a a GTK widget containing a GL context
[04:01] <Wyzard> Bluhd: I haven't used it myself, but it's probably what you want
[04:01] <Bluhd> Wyzard: should I apt-get install that?
[04:01] <Half-Left> charles_, the  you can extract the files to the directory you want with the filemanager
[04:01] <Wyzard> Bluhd: I guess so, if you want to program with it
[04:01] <Half-Left> then*
[04:01] <Wyzard> Bluhd: might be a good idea to look at the documentation for it first
[04:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard:  oh, that's funny!  it says exactly what is going on here.  do you know of another sniffer app i can use then?
[04:01] <viator> will edgy have nework manager for laptops
[04:01] <viator> by default
[04:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard:  i'm fine with using the other to connect with, but want to be able to sniff out routers in my range.
[04:02] <synchk> 	x)
[04:02] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: You can do it manually with "sudo iwlist scan" from a shell, but that's a pain
[04:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i remember that command from another lappy i had linux on
[04:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, what about wifi radar?
[04:03] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: never used it
[04:03] <Wyzard> but if it works, go for it
[04:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, thanks!  :)
[04:03] <viator> wifi-radar - graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles
[04:04] <etzerd> How do I remove the second status bar at the botton in Gnome and have all the application that I open thereafter minimize on the taskbar on top?
[04:04] <Wyzard> viator: I don't suppose you have an Atheros 5212 as well?
[04:04] <chuckyp> jUggERNAUt1980, you didn't get network-manager installed?
[04:04] <viator> nope
[04:04] <viator> Broadcom BCM4318
[04:05] <chuckyp> jUggERNAUt1980, if you just want to sniff for wireless networks.  Kismet is the best
[04:05] <malice_> anyone know of a url that will tell me a plug and play PDA for ubuntu?
[04:05] <charles_> I'm still very very lost, i installed the game to home/user/games/ and it gives me the same extraction error
[04:05] <jUggERNAUt1980> chuckyp, i got it installed, but it just ignores my wifi card.
[04:05] <viator> charles maybe you should chmod the file
[04:06] <Half-Left> malice_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy or the dapper one
[04:06] <lostinc> is there a prog that will tell me when my gmail account has mail?
[04:07] <chuckyp> jUggERNAUt1980, well kismet is the hova when it comes to searching for wireless networks.  But it doesn't let you connect to them.
[04:07] <malice_> half-left, ty
[04:07] <Half-Left> lostinc, I believe there is some kind of applet for it yes
[04:07] <jUggERNAUt1980> chuckyp, thanks muchly!  i'm thinking that all i really need is to know the essid and then i can attemp to manually connect.
[04:07] <lostinc> okay I have seen some in synaptic but wondered how good they were
[04:08] <Delicates> is there any way to reprint the last printed job in CUPS?
[04:08] <Half-Left> not tried then, evolution does let you know
[04:08] <Half-Left> them*
[04:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard:  how do i exit from this less viewer?
[04:08] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: 'q'
[04:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, thanks!
[04:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> could anyone recommend a good p2p app for ubuntu?
[04:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> i have frostwire, but i heard gnutella gtk is better?
[04:10] <Half-Left> overnet
[04:10] <lostinc> is there a way in GNOME to make icons align horizontally not vertically
[04:11] <ferronrsmith> cant find drivers for my dell printer
[04:11] <Half-Left> lostinc, drag then where you want :p
[04:12] <Half-Left> them*
[04:12] <jdroid-> i'm stoked on ubuntu! i was a gentoo user for about 4 years and a slackware user prior. I'm loving ubuntu!
[04:12] <ferronrsmith> The printer is a Dell Photo AIO 922
[04:12] <jUggERNAUt1980> jdroid, i'm with ya on that one.  high 5!  :P
[04:13] <lostinc> the 'clean up'comman only does vertical so even when I have them where I want  them if someone runs that I losre the placement
[04:13] <ferronrsmith>  The printer is a Dell Photo AIO 922
[04:13] <Half-Left> jdroid-, good for you :p
[04:13] <jdroid-> i know i'm preaching to the choir... :)
[04:13] <ferronrsmith> Can't find drivers for my printer,  The printer is a Dell Photo AIO 922
[04:14] <ferronrsmith> Anyone can help me????
[04:14] <ferronrsmith> Cant find the drivers for my printer
[04:14] <Dr_willis> check cups.org yet?
[04:15] <Owner> im having trouble running my mini pci modem on ubuntu can anyone help
[04:15] <jdroid-> ferronrsmith: quick google search indicates the aio 922 driver might be the same as the lexmark x5270
[04:16] <jbroome> yeah, those dells are rebadged lexmarks
[04:16] <ferronrsmith> thanks pal
[04:16] <woodgrain> Yesterday I blew up my libc6. ... I want to reinstall.  system steadily failing.  No synaptic.  only shell.  how to reinstall?
[04:17] <Owner> can anyone help me
[04:17] <Wyzard> woodgrain: If you don't have libc6, nothing at all will work, not even a shell
[04:18] <woodgrain> Wyzard, yeah, that's what I'm learning.  How can I reinstall the library?
[04:19] <Wyzard> Boot from the livecd
[04:19] <chuckyp> woodgrain, you'd probably have to boot from live cd and then chroot and install from a deb.
[04:19] <Wyzard> can't chroot if libc6 is hosed
[04:19] <mersco> Does anyone know where I could find an archive of the compiz repositories so I can get an older working compiz deb?
[04:19] <woodgrain> chuckyp, install the entire distro or just the library?
[04:19] <dan2> Wyzard: unless it's statically compiled
[04:19] <Wyzard> but you can download the .deb and use dpkg's "--root" option to install it without having to chroot
[04:20] <chuckyp> Wyzard, very nice I didn't know about --root
[04:20] <jdroid-> dan2: is chroot usually statically compiled? would make sense since things could break after the chroot itself took place...
[04:20] <woodgrain> Wyzard, can you tell me which version of libc6 I should run with dapper?
[04:20] <dan2> chroot is not statically linked
[04:20] <ferronrsmith> don't c any driver for the lexmark x5270
[04:21] <Wyzard> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/libc6
[04:21] <Wyzard> that one
[04:21] <etzerd> which one of the two GUI is best Gnome or KDE
[04:21] <Wyzard> For cleanliness, it might be a good idea to "dpkg --purge --force-depends" the old one before installing it again
[04:21] <jdroid-> etzerd: HA! Which is a better editor? emacs or vim
[04:21] <woodgrain> Wyzard, I have a deb now for the lib ... it's libc6_2.3.6.ds1-4_i386.deb  ... but I think this is the one that hosed my system (well I hosed my system with this library, I should say)
[04:22] <Owner> im having trouble running my mini pci modem on ubuntu can anyone help
[04:22] <chuckyp> etzerd, I would try both
[04:22] <etzerd> jdroid-: good question
[04:22] <chuckyp> etzerd, and form your own opiniton
[04:22] <chuckyp> !troll
[04:22] <Wyzard> woodgrain: Where did you get that deb from?
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <karsten> I'm helping someone (physically here) do an Ubuntu install onto an iMac, using an external USB drive.
[04:22] <woodgrain> Wyzard, I have only shell and thie terminal in xchat.  Do you know of a way to download the library from the web?
[04:22] <woodgrain> Wyzard, I got it from debian.
[04:22] <ferronrsmith> can't find printer driver for lexmark x5270
[04:22] <karsten> How do I get the external drive recognized by Ubuntu?
[04:22] <ferronrsmith> help me
[04:22] <etzerd> which one you use chuckyp?
[04:22] <Wyzard> woodgrain: Installing Debian packages on Ubuntu is a bad idea
[04:22] <ferronrsmith> where do i get it???
[04:22] <karsten> woodgrain: ... and vice versa
[04:22] <ferronrsmith> not at cups .org
[04:22] <woodgrain> Wyzard, yeah, uh, I'm learning the hard way.
[04:23] <Wyzard> woodgrain: especially for essential things...  and libc6 is the most essential package in the entire system
[04:23] <etzerd> I'm from Windows XP and I see KDE is very similar
[04:23] <jdroid-> ferronrsmith: chill and take your time... :) i don't know where
[04:23] <chuckyp> woodgrain, boot to the live cd wget the  proper .deb from the sight by Wyzard then dpkg install it with the --root option to your hardisk.
[04:23] <woodgrain> Wyzard, I didn't know that then ... but I do now.
[04:23] <karsten> ferronrsmith: HP publishes drivers, a bunch of the lexmark kit is supported.
[04:23] <etzerd> but don't take me wrong Gnome has better Graphic than KDE
[04:23] <woodgrain> Wyzard, can I download the right library wit hat shell terminal
[04:23] <etzerd> that is why it is hard for me to decide
[04:24] <chuckyp> woodgrain, how did you hose it in the first place?
[04:24] <Wyzard> woodgrain: Use the livecd...  you don't have to stick with a shell on your broken system
[04:24] <klick> hey all, does anyone know how in firefox (Bon Echo2.2) to make it so the close tab button is always on the far right, not the individual tab
[04:24] <woodgrain> chuckyp, by installing a deb from the debian site ... a newer ve4rsion needed for an open source application I use.
[04:24] <karsten> wups, it's a firewire drive
[04:24] <Wyzard> chuckyp: At the very least, use the version from edgy, not from Debian
[04:24] <blanky> !nvidia
[04:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:25] <woodgrain> Wyzard, best route is to download and burn this live disk (or the alternate?) on another machine, then load from live ??? what'll happen then?
[04:25] <Wyzard> but the Debian package is also version 2.3.6, the same version that's in dapper, so I don't see what you expected to gain
[04:26] <Wyzard> You can use the alternate CD if you really want, but I meant the regular install one, that gives you a nice convenient graphical desktop
[04:26] <woodgrain> well this deb apparently blew me out of the water ... the one I listed above.
[04:26] <jUggERNAUt1980> wifi-radar works!  :D
[04:26] <Wyzard> Boot the livecd, use the web browser to download the deb, and use dpkg with --root to install it
[04:26] <jUggERNAUt1980> i couldn't figure out kismet with this "i-want-it-now" attitude i seem to have.  o.O
[04:27] <woodgrain> Wyzard, thatnks for the help.  I'll try to get that live disk ... see what happpens.  THanks again.  this is a great channel for help.
[04:28] <brian98> can you install kde on top of ubuntu?
[04:28] <hondje> brian98: yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <m0> =hi, which flash plugin do you guys use?
[04:28] <m0> I am using libflash-mozplugin and it is causing alot of problems
[04:29] <brian98> hondje: can you do something real slick like alt f6 toi switch between gnome and kde or am I asking too much ;)
[04:29] <m0> not many websites are working
[04:29] <Wyzard> m0: flashplugin-nonfree, from multiverse
[04:29] <jdroid-> m0: good question. i'd love a flash plug-in that reliably plays youtube vids... suggestions anyone?
[04:29] <Dr_willis> jdroid-,  mine is working fine for youtube
[04:29] <jdroid-> even non-free doesn't always work, unforth
[04:29] <hondje> brian98: ... yeah, but it's a lot of work. I doubt you'll find someone to walk you through it :)
[04:29] <jdroid-> Dr_willis: which do you use?
[04:29] <Tomcat_> jdroid-: Adobe Flash 7 is unreliable for you?
[04:29] <Dr_willis> jdroid-,  and i just installed this system.
[04:29] <m0> Dr_willis: which one are you using?
[04:29] <hondje> brian98: It's easier to use a nested xserver
[04:29] <Dr_willis> jdroid-,  i will admit im not sure..  i decided to try out that Easyubuntu script.
[04:29] <jdroid-> Tomcat_: Dr_willis yes, flash 7 works fine, but sound is unrealiable for youtube
[04:29] <MugginsM> adobe aren't interested in Linux users, as far as I can tell
[04:29] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:29] <m0> Tomcat_: adobe's plugin crashes my system
[04:29] <Wyzard> MugginsM: They're developing Flash 9 for Linux...
[04:30] <Dr_willis> jdroid-,  not noticed any sound issues in the 5 videos i jsut watched
[04:30] <brian98> i loves a chelleng me!
[04:30] <jdroid-> Wyzard: i read that too. maybe we'll see it in jan
[04:30] <brian98> :)
[04:30] <m0> which one you are using Dr_willis
[04:30] <Tomcat_> jdroid-, m0: It crashed my browser for some time because of some script error, but that stopped when YouTube improved their player software.
[04:30] <MugginsM> wyz: so they say, but they haven't even really released flash *7* for many linux platforms
[04:30] <hondje> brian98: you can do fun things like use xdmcp though :)
[04:30] <brian98> challenge even!
[04:30] <Dr_willis> m0,  whatever one easyubuntu installed.. not even sure how to check.. lets see..
[04:30] <Wyzard> I don't use "many Linux platforms", but it works fine in Debian and Ubuntu, so I'm happy enough with it
[04:30] <m0> Tomcat_: how did you install it
[04:30] <MugginsM> debian and ubuntu on *intel* :)
[04:30] <Wyzard> fair enough
[04:31] <Dr_willis> flashplugin-nonfree it seems
[04:31] <brian98> hondje: any opinions on other distros?
[04:31] <Wyzard> I don't own any non-Intel hardware
[04:31] <Tomcat_> m0: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree? :o
[04:31] <hondje> I'm full of opinions, but you'd have to /msg me to get them...chan is busy as it is :)
[04:31] <m0> i hope it works :s
[04:32] <jdroid-> brian98: gentoo is pretty awesome. depends what you're looking for, though.
[04:32] <n1xt3r> How come everything I compile on a powerpc fails to execute with "Illegal instruction"? Is this a problem with gcc-4xx?
[04:32] <jdroid-> brian98: i recently installed ubuntu after a coworker was talking about it and i'm pretty stoked on it.
[04:32] <MugginsM> n1xt3r: powerpc should be fine
[04:32] <Tomcat_> n1xt3r: Sounds to me as if the software wasn't multi-platform.
[04:32] <brian98> jdroid-: I got a laptop last night just to check out the rc1 of Vista
[04:32] <sethk> n1xt3r, it was not compiled for powerpc
[04:33] <m0> yay
[04:33] <m0> I pressed the yellow thing, and said install
[04:33] <brian98> jdroid-: I had to see
[04:33] <m0> now Firefox CRASHES
[04:33] <brian98> jdroid-: it's bad
[04:33] <sethk> n1xt3r, you need to use a cross compiler when building code _for_ powerpc but not _on_ powerpc
[04:33] <m0> The flash plugin crashed my firefox...
[04:33] <brian98> jdroid-: in fact terrible!!!
[04:33] <m0> it closes it automatically if the page has flash
[04:33] <sethk> n1xt3r, it's an illegal instruction because it's the wrong processor.  Not surprising.
[04:34] <Tomcat_> brian98: full ack... people always say that the RC1 is quite stable already and that it could be used on their machines... but when you read about the horrible bugs... not even the *alpha* of Ubuntu edgy has such bad bugs.
[04:34] <m0> where is firefox installed?
[04:34] <sethk> m0, /usr/bin/firefox, usually
[04:34] <jdroid-> brian98: d'oh! i have to use windows at work because i need excel. i did some tweaking and usually work inside eclipse or a cygwin window so it's at least tolerable
[04:34] <sethk> m0, although that's probably not what you want to know
[04:34] <n1xt3r> sethk: I've compiled software before on my powerpc, I'm just noticing this ffmpeg and mplayer. mplayer works, but barely.
[04:35] <jdroid-> brian98: they also choose the os. i'm just a dev. :)
[04:35] <Tomcat_> m0: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins for plugins :)
[04:35] <brian98> not even that, the amount of resources and the little improvments... I played with it for ours lat night
[04:35] <m0> i wnat to know where the firefox plugins are
[04:35] <sethk> jdroid-, oocalc works reasonably well with excel files
[04:35] <mike1> lo
[04:35] <sethk> n1xt3r, that illegal instruction problem is caused by some type of build error
[04:35] <brian98> it's really time for a decent linux distro to start to attack
[04:35] <Tomcat_> brian98: Yeah, the little improvements don't really justify the 100+ USD price tag.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Im just annoyed that Adult Swim "fix" dont work for me. :(
[04:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> attack?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> http://www.adultswim.com/adultswimfix/index.jsp    work for anyone else?
[04:35] <sethk> n1xt3r, wrong processor, possibly wrong processor variant, wrong exe format, etc.
[04:35] <mike1> My Dapper install crashes when I connect to my brothers home network, where should I look first to find out why this is happening. (I've got to fix it quick)
[04:36] <brian98> because if that's the best they can do , with a little thought we can do WAY better!
[04:36] <m0> Nice... My firefox restarts by itself if visiting flash
[04:36] <m0> how do I fix that???
[04:36] <jdroid-> sethk: it works ok. a lot of the people where i work do a lot of vba
[04:36] <m0> removing flash :(
[04:36] <Tomcat_> Dr_willis: Works for me.
[04:36] <sethk> n1xt3r, no other way to get an illegal instruction in a protected mode environment with proper separation of code and data
[04:36] <m0> Removing Firefox...
[04:36] <m0> And reinstalling it :(
[04:36] <sethk> m0, flash also has major league space and processor leaks.
[04:36] <m0> so how do we access flash stuff...
[04:36] <m0> quit linux?
[04:37] <sethk> jdroid-, sometimes you have to resort to windows.  oocalc helps me reduce the number of times, somewhat.
[04:37] <Tomcat_> m0: Install flashplugin-nonfree? :o
[04:37] <sethk> jdroid-, but no way to reduce it to zero.
[04:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> dr_willis works for me too!
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Tomcat_,  bummer..
[04:37] <Captain_A> alright
[04:37] <Dr_willis> wonder what i am missing
[04:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> dr_willis, i have the mplayer plugin for viewing it, tho.
[04:37] <jdroid-> sethk: preaching to the choir here. windows at work is fine. like i was saying i tweaked in ways. i have 3 virtual desktops, aqua style launcher, no icons on the desktop, and cygwin. i barely notice it's windows most of the time
[04:37] <Dr_willis> aha -  let me try that..  clean install. no mplayer yet.
[04:37] <Captain_A> i need either a link to a step by step guide on getting my wmp54 gs pci card to wrok in ubunte
[04:38] <m0> I don't know what happened... I installed flash and now firefox is not working :(
[04:38] <Captain_A> i have no idea how
[04:38] <baconbacon> m0, how did you install flash
[04:38] <m0> how do I complely remove FLASH and reinstall it?
[04:38] <n1xt3r> sethk: Thanks, I've compiled ffmpeg and mplayer before, just not today I guess.
[04:38] <Captain_A> and can't understand all the things they are referring too
[04:38] <brian98> tomcat_ the biggest bug in breezy at the min which causes me major headaches is the rdesktop bug.. It totally hangs X if you leave it running for a little while
[04:38] <jUggERNAUt1980> dr_willis, ur not missing much.  it looks like the little alien dude is humping his dad's head
[04:38] <brian98> I can recreate
[04:38] <m0> baconbacon: a yellow bar came from the top and said if I want to isntall it. and I said yes and then restarted firefox and whenever visitng a flash page it closes by itself crash
[04:38] <brian98> and I admin a lot of w2003 boxes
[04:38] <Chris9> Hi Does any one know how to get iango working on a lan?
[04:39] <Tomcat_> brian98: Only showstopper for me is the font rendering issue in firefox, which has been fixed as I've read...
[04:39] <Dr_willis> jUggERNAUt1980,  now THATS comedy!
[04:39] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:39] <Tomcat_> brian98: But that bug you describe sounds naughty. :o
[04:39] <brian98> I got around it by using a kde app
[04:39] <brosnan> klick: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.tabs.closeButtons
[04:39] <brian98> krdc
[04:39] <sethk> n1xt3r, I'd wipe out everything you can and rebuild.  it really sounds like a build issue.  I was looking; you can get that illegal instruction situation by linking against one library (shared) and running against another.
[04:39] <jUggERNAUt1980> dr_willis :)  high 5:  anyone?anyone?
[04:39] <brian98> which has yet to crash x
[04:39] <Tomcat_> Dr_willis: I use mplayer plugin as well, like jUggERNAUt1980... works really well. :)
[04:40] <sethk> n1xt3r, unfortunately linux people are careless with the library versions and so this can happen.
[04:40] <viator_> wyzard
[04:40] <m0> how should I complektely remove Firefox?
[04:40] <baconbacon> m0, "rm ~/.mozilla/plugins/*flashplayer*"
[04:40] <m0> is there a way to delete all the dependency?
[04:40] <Chris9> lan games anyone?
[04:40] <brian98> But after my vista look last night I will be sticking with ubuntu and doing my best to start to convert some of my mature customer base ;)
[04:40] <simtower> does anyone know the way to change ubuntu to focus on mouseover (instead of focus on click?)
[04:40] <Wyzard> viator_: yes?
[04:40] <viator_> got it working
[04:40] <viator_> the network monitor
[04:40] <Wyzard> cool...  how?
[04:40] <Wyzard> manager  :-P
[04:40] <viator_> had to comment out everything
[04:41] <Wyzard> ok
[04:41] <viator_> in etc/network interfaces
[04:41] <brian98> but in fairness I'm an old redhat 7.1 man so I want to check out fedora
[04:41] <Tomcat_> brian98: And then there's the fact that xchat-gnome can't log conversations and doesn't work with umlauts in channels on some servers, but regular xchat doesn't have so many great features... I'm still waiting for that to get fixed. :]
[04:41] <viator_> except
[04:41] <brian98> anyone any opinions!!?
[04:41] <viator_> loopback
[04:41] <Wyzard> I'd wondered about that...  it works that way in Debian but I thought it was different in Ubuntu
[04:41] <brian98> Tomcat_ Hopefullly in edgy I guess?
[04:41] <Tomcat_> simtower: Prefs => Windows
[04:41] <m0> baconbacon: that worked now... Now I can access flash pages.
[04:41] <m0> baconbacon: but noww the yellow bar shows on the top of the page
[04:41] <viator_> that other dude could have done that
[04:41] <Tomcat_> brian98: Haven't tried so far... but I just read there's new code in SVN that I'll try out.
[04:41] <baconbacon> ok m0
[04:41] <viator_> i suppose
[04:42] <m0> baconbacon: what should I do to install flash... correctly
[04:42] <lmosher> Is there a way to copy the gnome panel settings? i.e. so I can have my laptop set up like my desktop? :)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Tomcat_,  Hmm.. i just get a lot of loading/connectinmg to messages in the video box now..
[04:42] <simtower> Tomcat_, thanks a bunch =D
[04:42] <m0> isntall the flashnonfree ?
[04:42] <baconbacon> m0, just let me see the correct package
[04:42] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: rofl you wont believe this...
[04:42] <viator_> hey this supports wpa?
[04:42] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Hey, if you're still around, viator_ found out how to get NetworkManager working on his system...  might be worth a try on yours
[04:42] <m0> baconbacon: ok
[04:42] <Tomcat_> Dr_willis: Same for me, but after some time it works.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Ok..   :) its buffering a lot eh?
[04:42] <m0> baconbacon: flashplugin-nonfree
[04:43] <brian98> tomcat_ you checked out nomachine.com : best app I've installed so far!
[04:43] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: i restarted the laptop and plugged the card in... and it worked >.>
[04:43] <baconbacon> m0, yes that's what i have and i can go to youtube and such
[04:43] <Wyzard> viator_: What seems strange to me is that it doesn't ignore your wired interface even though that's in the interfaces file
[04:43] <m0> baconbacon: okay i finsihed apt-get
[04:43] <m0> what should I do now?
[04:43] <baconbacon> restart ff
[04:43] <Tomcat_> Dr_willis: Can't connect now as well... probably overloaded or something. :\
[04:43] <m0> yes
[04:43] <viator_> yeah it sees my wired
[04:43] <baconbacon> it should work now
[04:43] <viator_> and wireless
[04:43] <m0> baconbacon: but that yellwo bar still appears
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Tomcat_,  Argh! the Humanity!
[04:44] <viator_> wyzard this supports wpa?
[04:44] <baconbacon> m0, are you sure you restarted firefox...
[04:44] <Wyzard> viator_: The Debian version completely ignores any interface that's defined in the interfaces file, but I thought that change was made after dapper was frozen for release
[04:44] <baconbacon> try "killall firefox-bin"
[04:44] <m0> i closed firefox and restarted it
[04:44] <Wyzard> viator_: and WPA2 as well, yes
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Oh well.. watch videos tomorrow i guess
[04:44] <viator_> nice
[04:45] <m0>  killall firefox-bin
[04:45] <m0> firefox-bin: no process killed
[04:45] <baconbacon> ok
[04:45] <Tomcat_> brian98: Yeah nomachine is pretty good... but I didn't really have time to check it out completely, and I don't need VNC much anyway.
[04:45] <viator_> no more wep :)
[04:45] <Wyzard> viator_: though it depends on how well your wireless driver supports it...  I had issues with ipw2200 until I upgraded to kernel 2.6.17
[04:45] <brian98> it's vnc on steroids :)))))))0
[04:45] <brian98> btw, that was X hanging again :(
[04:45] <baconbacon> and flash still doesn't work? are you sure it's not shockwave?
[04:45] <m0> oh
[04:45] <m0> hmm
[04:46] <m0> ello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Click here to get the latest flash player.
[04:46] <m0> thats what youtube says..
[04:46] <m0> my flash on my website doens't work either
[04:46] <viator_> youtube ned flash 9  i thought?
[04:46] <Tomcat_> viator_: Nope.
[04:46] <m0> i did flashplugin-nonfree
[04:46] <viator_> i just hacked moilla to say i had flash9
[04:46] <viator_> anyway
[04:47] <Tomcat_> m0: Try "about:plugins" as URL and check for flash plugin.
[04:47] <DrBanzai> Anybody here ever used the cluster feature of dvd::rip??
[04:47] <Wyzard> For "full" functionality maybe, but it seems to work fine for me with flashplugin-nonfree
[04:47] <baconbacon> m0, go to "about:plugins" and check for shockwave of flash
[04:47] <m0> no plugins installed
[04:47] <m0> baconbacon: thats what it says
[04:47] <m0> m0@m0-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:48] <m0> thats what I did to install flash
[04:48] <baconbacon> that's weird... you should have flash
[04:48] <tjb891> are any of you having a problem with the update to flash
[04:48] <m0> i know: )
[04:48] <hondje> try apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[04:48] <brian98> tomcat_ I just got a new drive, whats the best way to move over to it? Ghost? Also , whats the kde install again? and what happens when you install kde do you get an option at boot which manager you want to use
[04:48] <viator_> do apt-cache policy flashplugun-nonfree
[04:48] <brian98> ?
[04:48] <Dr_willis> Ok.. now why on this new install a -->  sudo aptitude  install samba    show about 100 packages it wants to remove?
[04:49] <Dr_willis>  packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 304 to remove and 5 not upgraded
[04:49] <Dr_willis> 304 to remove.. :P
[04:49] <viator_> 304 lol
[04:49] <Tomcat_> brian98: I find LiveCD + tar the best way to move... if you have Windows, yeah Ghost is probably better.
[04:49] <viator_> sounds like when i was running libranet
[04:49] <viator_> with multiple repos
[04:49] <viator_> and pinning
[04:49] <Tomcat_> brian98: KDE is "kubuntu-desktop" package... and you get to choose in the login manager, not at boot.
[04:49] <brian98> cool!
[04:49] <brian98> also one other q
[04:49] <Dr_willis> including 'zoo' and uby ruby1.8 sane-utils   scim-qtimm speedcrunch    and  adept akregator amarok amarok-xine
[04:49] <Wyzard> Dr_willis: Name one of those other packages on the install command line too, to tell it that both must be installed together, and it'll tell you why it can't meet those criteria
[04:50] <m0> hmm still no plugins :s
[04:50] <brian98> the new drive I got is 750GB sata, how do I resive partitions?
[04:50] <Wyzard> i.e. sudo aptitude install samba zoo
[04:50] <babo> Can anyone help me figure out an stunnel issue ?
[04:50] <babo> babo@eire:/etc/stunnel$ stunnel -p stunnel.pem -d 80 -r google.com
[04:50] <Tomcat_> brian98: Easiest is to use gparted or qparted... or parted if you're on the command line.
[04:50] <babo> 2006.09.24 11:48:25 LOG3[31294:3083454144] : Error resolving '<IP_ADDRESS>': servname is not supported for ai_socktype (EAI_SERVICE)
[04:50] <ChrisWhite> hmm.. I've always used apt-get
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Wyzard,  it just reduces the # to remove heh..
[04:50] <ChrisWhite> what's aptitude got?
[04:51] <ChrisWhite> !aptitude
[04:51] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:51] <Dr_willis> ckages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 303 to remove
[04:51] <Wyzard> Or, use aptitude's interactive UI to browse through the changes it's going to make...  highlight a package and it shows you what used to depend on it that's being removed as well, so you can trace it back to the root of the problem
[04:51] <babo> Cannot resolve 'google.com' - delaying DNS lookup
[04:51] <m0> http://paste.uni.cc/10336  Thats what i did to install flash
[04:51] <brian98> tomcat_ Your a gent, I presume you use tomcat for servlets or is that just your nick?
[04:51] <ChrisWhite> I see
[04:51] <m0> Why doesn't plugins work
[04:51] <Dr_willis> heh - im thinking hteres some gnome-desktop breakage. or somthing
[04:51] <Tomcat_> I gotta go... it's 4:50 here...
[04:52] <Tomcat_> brian98: Nah, the nick comes from the airplane... when I took the nick in 1993/4, Tomcat app server and Java wasn't even available. :)
[04:52] <Dr_willis> if i just 'sudo apt-get install samba' i get no issues.
[04:52] <Wyzard> Or maybe aptitude somehow has everything marked as having been installed automatically to satisfy dependencies
[04:52] <baconbacon> m0, i'm sorry, i'm out of ideas
[04:52] <Dr_willis> So is it best to use apt-get..  i only recently started trying to use aptitude instead of apt-get
[04:52] <Wyzard> No, it's best to use aptitude
[04:52] <m0> m0@m0-laptop:~/.mozilla/firefox$ ls
[04:52] <m0> 4qj4iyjq.default  pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini
[04:52] <m0> I only see those
[04:52] <Wyzard> Using apt-get because of this is just sticking your head in the sand
[04:53] <viator_> hey wyzard does nm ask for the password everytime ?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Heck - this is a clean install.. lets look at the sources.list
[04:53] <babo> stunnel -d 80 -r mysite.com:443 ... so when I point my webbrowser to mysite, it should open as https ... right ?
[04:53] <Wyzard> aptitude isn't prone to random fits of making changes it shouldn't -- there's some good reason for this
[04:54] <Wyzard> viator_: It adds your WEP/WPA passphrases to gnome-keyring, and gnome-keyring prompts for a password on subsequent logins, to unlock itself
[04:54] <ysy> hello
[04:54] <tjb891>  i read that installing flash from adobe's website instead of from th ubuntu repository works fine but you don't get upgrades, is it bad to do this?
[04:54] <viator_> yeah
[04:54] <Dr_willis> The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED  - Hmm.. Unused..
[04:54] <m0> oh how do you switch networks in irssi agian?
[04:54] <m0> alt+ ??
[04:54] <Wyzard> viator_: I guess if you had a blank password on your keyring it wouldn't prompt for it, but the current version of gnome-keyring unfortunately doesn't support changing your passphrase
[04:54] <Dr_willis> if i used apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, once instead of aptitude install kubuntu-desktop , would that explain it?
[04:55] <_mason> Gday
[04:55] <brian98> is it safe to install kde on top of ubuntu?
[04:55] <ladydoor> m0: ctrl-x
[04:55] <Wyzard> Dr_willis: Go through the list, find packages that you want to keep, and press '+' on them to mark them to stay installed
[04:55] <m0> ladydoor: thanks
[04:55] <ladydoor> m0: np
[04:55] <viator_> well you could change it if you remved it all together
[04:55] <viator_> and reinstalled the thing maybe
[04:55] <Dr_willis> yea..  i just tried aptitude install kubuntu-desktop again. and it says the package is broken.
[04:55] <MrNaz`> i want to install jedit but there is nothing in the repositories for it... can i install it from a .deb file?
[04:55] <Wyzard> Dr_willis: The libraries and such will automatically be unmarked for removal
[04:55] <tjb891> brian98:yes it just won't work that well
[04:56] <ladydoor> Dr_willis: actually, ":" is the button to cancel any changes on a package
[04:56] <baconbacon> m0, it doesn't work anymore for me now that i've sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree --reinstall
 but it will give me a look at kde?
[04:56] <tjb891> yes
[04:56] <brian98> thats alll I want really!
[04:56] <Wyzard> ladydoor: but that'd have to be combined with 'M' to mark it as manually installed...  '+' is quicker
[04:56] <tjb891> brian98:but using knoppix would be easier
[04:57] <ladydoor> Wyzard: ah.
[04:57] <brian98> argh
[04:57] <brian98> now you tells me!!
[04:57] <brian98>  :)
[04:57] <viator_> or the kubuntu live cd
[04:57] <brian98> true
[04:57] <viator_> or mepis
[04:57] <brian98> never thought of that
[04:57] <brian98> doh
[04:58] <F_roZeN> hi, someone knows if the lan card from a foxconn MB is only for windows?
[04:58] <chuckyp> well there are other packages to get kde
[04:58] <chuckyp> besides kubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <chuckyp> You could sudo apt-get install kde or kde-core
[04:59] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: What kind of network card is it?
[04:59] <supermiguel> does any one know how to unluck a pdf file?
[04:59] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: lspci will tell you the chipset
[04:59] <supermiguel> that is asking for a password
[04:59] <chuckyp> unluck?
[04:59] <_mason> ive got some problems installing azureus, I need the package libswt-gtk-3.2-java to be installed, but its not in apt-get so ive been downloading the .deb's manually  well libswt... needs libswt-gtk-3.2-jni  then that needs libatk1.0-0 and then that says it needs libc6 But libc6 is installed and is latest version
[04:59] <Wyzard> Type the password?  :-P
[04:59] <d3v1ant0n3> Any suggestions....erasing a cd-rw in K3B- gets about halfway thru, then dumps me to login menu...what the?
[04:59] <supermiguel> yea but i dont know which one is it
[04:59] <_mason> How do i install them
[04:59] <chuckyp> _mason, sudo apt-get install azureus
[04:59] <supermiguel> there is hacker or something to do that
[04:59] <F_roZeN> realtek something
[04:59] <viator_> there was this site where you put the info from lspci in and it tellss you if theres drivers
[05:00] <chuckyp> !azureus
[05:00] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:00] <Wyzard> superm1: Somewhere, yeah, but it's not part of Ubuntu
[05:00] <lmosher> Anyone here using a core duo processor (yonah)?
[05:00] <Wyzard> supermiguel: oops, ^^^
[05:00] <chuckyp> !tell _mason about azureus
[05:00] <F_roZeN> I have a Pentium D
[05:00] <viator_> nah the corduo is downstairs
[05:00] <baconbacon> m0, now I uninstall flashplugin-nonfree with synaptic, selecting "completely uninstall", and installed it from the firefox dialog, youtube works again
[05:00] <Wyzard> _mason: Sounds like you're trying to install the Debian version
[05:00] <lmosher> I'm not sure linux is properly detecing it as dual core. Is there a way to check?
[05:01] <_mason> chuckyp azureus is already installed and is the latest version, but IT needs libswt-gtk-3.2-java
[05:01] <_mason> then that needs x, etx
[05:01] <baconbacon> lmosher:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:01] <chuckyp> _mason, well sudo apt-get build-dep azureus
[05:01] <_mason> ok, ill try that
[05:01] <Wyzard> _mason: dpkg -s azureus
[05:01] <lmosher> baconbacon, ok what would tell me it's dual core? it gets the processor name correct...
[05:01] <Wyzard> _mason: What version does it show?
[05:01] <m0> hmm
[05:01] <m0> baconbacon:
[05:01] <m0> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[05:01] <chuckyp> _mason, that build-dep will install all of its dependencies
[05:01] <_mason> azureus is version <IP_ADDRESS>-1
[05:01] <m0> is that the same as flashplugin-nonfree
[05:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> sheesh, worky tonight 80 miles away.  :(
[05:02] <baconbacon> lmosher: that would be mention of smp in features
[05:02] <Wyzard> _mason: You installed the Debian package of Azureus
[05:02] <viator_> flash is in the repos
[05:02] <chuckyp> holly s I need to go to bed gnight all
[05:02] <Wyzard> _mason: Remove that, and install the Ubuntu packaged version...  it's in universe
[05:02] <baconbacon> m0, i dont install it this way
[05:02] <lmosher> baconbacon, hmm smp, do I need to install a kernel or something to deal with that? I don't see it in the list :/
[05:02] <viator_> --purge remove it!
[05:02] <baconbacon> viator_: flash in the repos was broken for me after a --reinstall
[05:02] <_mason> Ahh, Well I was following the ubuntu wiki ? thats a trap for beginners
[05:03] <Wyzard> sounds like a bug in the wiki's directions, then
[05:03] <viator_> bacon its not broken
[05:03] <viator_> it does give an error though
[05:03] <viator_> but works fine
[05:04] <d3v1ant0n3> I had hella trouble installing flash on a reinstall
[05:04] <baconbacon> lmosher: i don't know. you could try the smp kernel which is in the repos
[05:04] <baconbacon> but don't uninstall the other
[05:04] <brian98> jeez, kde is windows
[05:04] <brian98> :)
[05:04] <lmosher> hm ok. Can anyone back that up? How do I set up my system to use smp?
[05:04] <jUggERNAUt1980> brian98, i know, right??!
[05:04] <F_roZeN> any 686 is SMP
[05:04] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: no
[05:05] <viator_> juggernaut you get the manager working
[05:05] <viator_> ?
[05:05] <MrNaz`> F_roZeN no... lmosher you need to get the SMP enabled kernel
[05:05] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator_  netmanager apparently doesn't recognize my wifi card.  i improvised another solution, tho.
[05:05] <Wyzard> Is that the -server one?
[05:05] <viator_> did you try commenting everything out except the loopback
[05:05] <baconbacon> i have Linux laptop-bacon 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT ... using linux-686
[05:05] <supermiguel> what kis the easiest way to make an ftp server
[05:05] <MrNaz`> lmosher apt-get install kernal-foo-smp
[05:05] <viator_> in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:06] <ChrisWhite> brian98: my windows never had direct ssh integration
[05:06] <viator_> EVERYTHING
[05:06] <F_roZeN> linux-image-2.6.15-27-686  - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP
[05:06] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator_, nope.  i just installed wifi-radar.  works peachy fine with my wifi.
[05:06] <brian98> cygwin chriswhite!!
[05:06] <brian98> :)
[05:06] <lmosher> MrNaz`, ok cool, Will I need to do any further updates (i.e. download my nvidia driver) or does the smp thing simply enable smp in my current kernel?
[05:06] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: Oh, you meant any 686 kernel in Ubuntu, not any 686 processor
[05:06] <viator_> jugg cool just to let you know thats what ya need to do
[05:06] <F_roZeN> yeah
[05:06] <brian98> I seem to have a mix of gnome and kde now!
[05:06] <viator_> now i can use wpa
[05:07] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: It's worth a shot...  NM is much preferable over other stuff, if you can get it to work
[05:07] <ChrisWhite> brian98: what're you gonna do!
[05:07] <brian98> gnome panel at the top and kde at the botom!
[05:07] <baconbacon> lmosher my opinion is that you can install linux-686 to have a smp kernel
[05:07] <brian98> bottom
[05:07] <brian98> even
[05:07] <ChrisWhite> brian98: I had this weird mixture once, where twm and kde were mixed together
[05:07] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: and it could very well be that the problem I mentioned to you has been fixed (that was nearly two years ago, after all) and it's just this other thing that's preventing it from working
[05:07] <ChrisWhite> brian98: and kicker was floating around in it's own little twm widget
[05:07] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator_, thanks muchly, but it was pointed out to me that there is an issue with netmanager and athos 5212 wifi.
[05:07] <lmosher> baconbacon, if I do that will I have to re-intall my nvidia drivers.. etc?
[05:08] <brian98> kde don't look as bad as people say, think I'll play for a while
[05:08] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: *Two years ago* there was an issue with the Atheros 5212...  you don't know for sure that your current problem is the same bug that was talked about in that message
[05:08] <viator_> i was always a kde user
[05:08] <viator_> gnome has grown on me
[05:08] <ChrisWhite> I use kde, gnome, fluxbox, xfce
[05:08] <Wyzard> KDE always seemed to gaudy to me
[05:08] <ChrisWhite> just so it's nearly impossible to get me in a flamewar :p
[05:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i used netmanager with my other lappy having a broadcomm chipset.  it worked fine then, but wouldn't connect to anything less than 100% signal strength
[05:08] <viator_> since my wife insisted on ubuntu so has it :)
[05:09] <ChrisWhite> heck, at one time I used framebuffer everytime
[05:09] <baconbacon> lmosher: i think not
[05:09] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: That's your Broadcom chip or its driver...  NM just tells the card what to connect to, and has nothing to do with how well it deals with weak signals
[05:09] <viator_> jugg well i was @ 50% or less
[05:09] <ChrisWhite> graphical links, mplayer with sdl out
[05:09] <viator_> and it worked fine
[05:09] <ChrisWhite> it was fast as heck, but really bland :P
[05:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> Wyzard, i'll keep plugging away at that issue, but i grabbed another solution, however temporary it is.  i really want to use networkmanager, tho.
[05:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> i have ti work in a little bit, so won't be able to hack at it anymore tonight.
[05:10] <mollatov> (very) new user of Linux here; quick question: No matter how slow I burn the Ubuntu Live CD ISO, it behaves unbelievably slow (it will take minutes between clicking a menu and its popping down). I've not had this issue with other Live CDs (SLAX, Knoppix). My question is, is there something wrong with my ISO? Should I re-download it and try again?
[05:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> :P
[05:10] <ChrisWhite> my cd was kind of slow, but that was because my drive is kinda slow
[05:10] <Denstark> I have a question -- I've set up an apache server but no one but the local computer can get to it.. any ideas?
[05:10] <viator_> jug just sudo nano /etc/netowrk/interfaces
[05:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> ok i'll do that now viator_
[05:10] <feross> hey how can I turn off the annoying network applet thing in Gnome? I'd rather configure the network via a couple scipts, that applet thing takes forever.
[05:10] <viator_> and comment out all interfaces except lo
[05:10] <blanky> hey guys what command can i type in the terminal to tell me the version of ubuntu im running
[05:11] <CarlFK> the launcher icon for firefox has "command=firefox %u"  what is the %u for?
[05:11] <viator_> and bam it worked
[05:11] <ChrisWhite> CarlFK: the url
[05:11] <baconbacon> m0, if you're still there, i wen to youtube.com and clicked on the square on the right "click here to download plugin"
[05:11] <maxamillion> anyone else not able to boot on amd64 after the edgy 2.6.17-9 kernel upgrade?
[05:11] <CarlFK> ChrisWhite: what URL?
[05:11] <ChrisWhite> CarlFK: whatever url you pass it
[05:11] <brian98> so how do I get  windows at login asking me which enviroment I want to boot into (kde or gnome?)
[05:12] <m0> baconbacon:  yea? what happedn?
[05:12] <brian98> or is impossible?
[05:12] <CarlFK> ChrisWhite: it is an icon that I click on.  how would I pass a URL?
[05:12] <m0> i am getting this:
[05:12] <ChrisWhite> CarlFK: you can drag and drop a URL on the launcher, so the %u is there to pass in theurl
[05:12] <lmosher> once I do get dual core working I'll be able to see it in both /proc/acpi/cpu and in 'top' I should be two, yes?
[05:12] <excitatory> blanky: chances are you're running dapper
[05:12] <CarlFK> ahh
[05:12] <m0> m0@m0-laptop:~$ sudo update-flashplugin
[05:12] <m0> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[05:12] <baconbacon> m0, i followed the wizard and flash worked after
[05:12] <feross> mollatov: I think there's a switch to load everything into memory, that should run faster.
[05:12] <blanky> excitatory, I'm not sure, becuase I did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and im hoping it didn't upgrade to edgy eft
[05:12] <brian98> or is impossible?
[05:12] <viator_> oh and i rebooted
[05:13] <brian98> so how do I get  windows at login asking me which enviroment I want to boot into (kde or gnome?)
[05:13] <m0> what would be wrong with mine then
[05:13] <excitatory> blanky: unless you put edgy in your apt sources file ( /etc/apt/sources.list ) it wouldn't have upgraded to edgy.
[05:14] <blanky> excitatory, oh right
[05:14] <baconbacon> brian98, look in options -> session
[05:14] <m0> how do we debug linux :(
[05:14] <brian98> sorry :S
[05:14] <babo> So ubuntu has the whisker lib, but doesn't have the whisker.pl script ?
[05:14] <excitatory> say no to sorry :D
[05:14] <siriusnova> man this really sucks, someone REALLY needs to fix the darn ati radeon bug in X.org, it makes ATI card useless
[05:14] <Wyzard> m0: That was a problem in dapper a few weeks ago, but it was fixed by recent updates
[05:14] <siriusnova> X locks up every 10 minutes with the bug
[05:14] <excitatory> siriusnova: what bug?
[05:15] <graveson> has anyone seen this error : mtrr: type mismatch for d0000000,8000000 old and can help me troubleshoot it
[05:15] <siriusnova> excitatory - the bug that causes any ati radeon laptop card to completely lock up the system randomly
[05:15] <Wyzard> brian98: The GDM login screen has a menu for choosing which session you want to run
[05:15] <ChrisWhite> huh...
[05:15] <excitatory> graveson: err.. what were you doing when this error occured?  where do you see it? etc, etc.  (your question is rather vague)
[05:16] <ChrisWhite> allright, my system kinda froze
[05:16] <m0> baconbacon: talking to firefox dev to fix this prob
 how do I add kde to it
[05:16] <watercooler> anyone use tor?
[05:16] <brian98> it's not there right now
[05:16] <ChrisWhite> blanky: /etc/lsb-release
[05:17] <excitatory> siriusnova: well, first are you sure X or the ati driver is in fact locking up your system?  and second, are you using the ati.com driver or something else?
[05:17] <Wyzard> m0: Your problem with update-flashplugin shouldn't have anything to do with Firefox...  it's because Adobe issued an updated version of Flash 7 and the package needed to be updated accordingly
[05:17] <blanky> thanks ChrisWhite
[05:17] <baconbacon> m0, now im REALLY out of ideas, ask in #firefox maybe they can help
[05:17] <graveson> excitatory: not been doing anything just trying to get my ATI card working. the Mesa driver works find.as soon as i switch to fglrx i have this errors
[05:17] <excitatory> siriusnova: i've been using radeons w/ linux for a long time now w/out any trouble.
[05:17] <watercooler> talk about to many people
[05:17] <slime> for grub, if i set the TIME to zero, basically the boot selection is going to be so fast that i will not be able to select my OS, is there some sort of control key i can press to select my OS?
[05:17] <Wyzard> m0: but the current version in dapper (7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1) should work
[05:17] <siriusnova> excitatory - its a known bug, there is a 30 post long discussion on launchpad, im using the X.org "ATI" driver as the ATI driver itself doesnt support my Thinkpad's ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility
[05:18] <Meglo> My Synaptics touchpad wasn't working. But I had it disabled in my windows partition - somehow when I turned it on in windows it started working in linux. How is this possible?
[05:18] <Meglo> :?
[05:18] <m0> Wyzard: hmm it might be some conflict between AIGLX and Firefox
[05:18] <excitatory> siriusnova: ah, ok.  right on.
[05:18] <brian98> must sleep gf not happy
[05:18] <CarlFK> ChrisWhite: how come when I put firefox %u in the "Startup Programs" list (because I didn't know what the %u was for) it opened with http://www.arizona.edu ?
[05:19] <brian98> later
[05:19] <brian98> and thanks for all!!!
[05:19] <viator_> cause linux has more drivers
[05:19] <Wyzard> m0: None of that should have anything to do with update-flashplugin
[05:19] <m0> Wyzard: i ran it within consol and got this: http://paste.uni.cc/10340
[05:19] <Schalken> whats the command to reconfigure X?
[05:19] <siriusnova> excitatory - its really annoying too as running X will cause random hangs, like complete system lockups. I literally have to hit the power button to get my system to work again
[05:19] <jijiu> hi.. i have a kinda noob question.. i'm trying to compile something and it keeps complaining about -lpthreads.. i couldn't find a glibc-devel or something like it on my apt.. what should i install in order to get it going? Oo
[05:19] <viator_> andcorrectly installed the proper one
[05:19] <m0> Wyzard: my update-flashplugin receives ayutomatic installion failed due to network problems
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: I noticed that they just released a new version of the driver; might be worth trying.
[05:20] <Wyzard> m0: All update-flashplugin does is download a file from Adobe, check its md5sum, unpack it, check the md5sums of the files inside, and copy the files to certain places on the system
[05:20] <m0> oh okay
[05:20] <Wyzard> m0: The "network problems or upstream changes" error is because Adobe issued an updated version and the md5sums are different
[05:20] <m0> so not the issue :)
[05:20] <m0> ah...
[05:20] <m0> But i downmlaoded from adobe :)
[05:20] <Schalken> sorry i'll ask again, whats the command to reconfigure X?
[05:20] <m0> Wyzard: any idea about http://paste.uni.cc/10340
[05:21] <Wyzard> m0: Yes, the latest version from Adobe is not the version that your flashplugin-nonfree package is expecting
[05:21] <siriusnova> tonyyarusso - the bug is in the X.org "ati" driver
[05:21] <siriusnova> not ATI's driver itself
[05:21] <brosnan> CarlFK: firefox is doing a google I'm feeling lucky search
[05:21] <m0> Wyzard: what should I do then..
[05:21] <Wyzard> m0: I ran into that a few weeks ago, but flashplugin-nonfree was updated recently to address it...  have you not installed updates lately?
[05:21] <m0> i did
[05:21] <m0> hmm
[05:21] <CarlFK> brosnan: are you kidding?
[05:21] <m0> how do I reinstall updates
[05:21] <Xenguy> Schalken: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:21] <viator_> m0 apt-get update
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: I meant if you're using it instead of the ATI one..maybe I misread.  Anyway.
[05:21] <Xenguy> Schalken: I think
[05:21] <viator_> then apt-get upgrade
[05:22] <Schalken> Xenguy: thats the one, thanks!
[05:22] <slime> how do i use command line for apt-get searching for a package then apt-get install it?
[05:22] <Wyzard> m0: I have no idea about your Firefox bug, but the update-flashplugin problem should be resolved just by upgrading to version 7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1 of the package
[05:22] <viator_> if you have a problem do this
[05:22] <Xenguy> Schalken: yw
[05:22] <Wyzard> m0: unless Adobe just released *another* update today, maybe
[05:22] <viator_> apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree
[05:22] <viator_> then reinstall
[05:22] <m0>                       to version 7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1 of the package
[05:22] <brosnan> CarlFK: no, something is getting added to firefox at startup and it is doing a i'm feeling lucky search
[05:22] <F_roZeN> what is the diference with aptitude
[05:22] <jijiu> hi.. i have a kinda noob question.. i'm trying to compile something and it keeps complaining about -lpthreads.. i couldn't find a glibc-devel or something like it on my apt.. what should i install in order to get it going? Oo
[05:23] <CarlFK> brosnan: wild.  ok, Ill take that %u out.  thanks
[05:23] <Xenguy> slime: use 'apt-cache search' for keyword searches; then 'apt-get install' to install
[05:23] <m0> Wyzard: how do I upgrade to that dapper?
[05:23] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: You can interactively browse through packages, and it can keep track of which packages were installed because you wanted them, vs. which packages were installed just to satisfy dependencies
[05:23] <F_roZeN> ok
[05:24] <Wyzard> m0: Run the update manager from the Administration menu
[05:24] <meowmeow> is there a way for me to unzip splitted rar archives in linux (.r001, r002
[05:24] <luckyone> I cannot for the life of me properly convert WMA to mp3
[05:24] <m0> Wyzard: nothing updates
[05:24] <Wyzard> m0: You should've gotten a little notification bubble telling you that updates were available, actually
[05:24] <m0> I already did that this morning
[05:24] <slime> Xenguy: thx
[05:24] <luckyone> I just lost an album trying to...
[05:24] <Xenguy> meowmeow: unrar e file.rar
[05:24] <Xenguy> slime: yw
[05:24] <m0> i am running firefox from the console: firefox --synch
[05:24] <Wyzard> m0: Run "dpkg -s flashplugin-nonfree" from a shell and see what version it says it is
[05:24] <meowmeow> thanks
[05:25] <m0> hmm
[05:25] <Wyzard> m0: Forget Firefox for the moment...  update-flashplugin is a simple shell script that should work even if Firefox isn't installed at all
[05:25] <supermiguel> !ubuntu es
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <supermiguel> !ubuntu-es
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <m0> Wyzard: It says conflicts flashplugin <<6
[05:25] <Xenguy> !es
[05:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:25] <supermiguel> !ubuntues
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Wyzard> m0: Look at the version, not the dependencies
[05:25] <m0> Wyzard: Version:  <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3
[05:26] <supermiguel> there jis nothing to do :S
[05:26] <Wyzard> m0: ...did you disable your update repositories in your sources.list or something?
[05:26] <viator_> he has problems causehe installed the one from the repos
[05:26] <Anderson> when I upgraded to the newest kernel, 2.6.15-26, my BCM43xx drivers stopped working. Is this a common problem?
[05:26] <viator_> and installed the one from adobe
[05:26] <m0> Wyzard: I don't know! :s
[05:26] <brosnan> m0: try https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304370#c5
[05:26] <MNGRVE> !chmod
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <jijiu> hi, i'm running a ubuntu 6.06 and trying to compile a program.. and it says there is no -lpthread.. i can't find the packet for -lpthread.. anyone knows wich one is that?
[05:26] <m0> Wyzard: how do I check
[05:27] <Wyzard> m0: Run Synaptic
[05:27] <m0> k
[05:27] <Xenguy> Anderson: sometimes 'restricted-modules' need to be installed (don't know if this is the case for you, just something to check)
[05:27] <Wyzard> m0: On the Settings menu, pick Repositories
[05:27] <m0> yes
[05:27] <Wyzard> m0: Make sure the "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Updates" sources are checked
[05:27] <Anderson> Xenguy, I removed and loaded the module, is that what you are talking about?
[05:27] <m0> Wyzard: already checked
[05:28] <m0> not the non-freethou
[05:28] <Xenguy> Anderson: I don't think so...
[05:28] <m0> Wyzard: Under sources I see Officially supported, rEstrcited copyright
[05:28] <simtower> anyone know why apt-get update would be getting connection failed from all the servers even though i can ping them just fine?
[05:28] <Xenguy> Anderson: for example, when I upgrade kernels, sometimes my X gets broken because I run Nvidia...
[05:28] <Wyzard> m0: Check the non-free one...  that's where Flash lives
[05:28] <Anderson> Xenguy, Matter of fact, since I upgraded, none of my network devices seem to be working.
[05:29] <Anderson> Xenguy, Does the manufacture release drivers for linux?
[05:29] <Xenguy> Anderson: so I need to install the 'restricted-modules' package that corresponds to my kernel version
[05:29] <Wyzard> m0: Check everything in the list, in fact
[05:29] <blanky> hey guys if I'm ssh'ed into someone, and I'm in a screen session, how can I get their attention and get them to screen in?
[05:29] <MNGRVE> hey, uh, I had to make a few changes to my partitions, namely change two from ntfs to fat32, and i had to edit my fstab. They're mounting fine, but I'd like to change the labels on the links to them on my desktop. How would i go about that?
[05:29] <blanky> for example how can I send a message ?
[05:29] <m0> Wyzard: the binary is already checked non-free
[05:29] <m0> the sources is not
[05:29] <m0> cause I don't see any
[05:29] <lmosher> Not sure who I was talking with earlier regaridng getting dual cores to work, but installing the linux-image-kernelver-686 works, but in order to get nvidia working you must have linux-image-686-smp installed as well. So in the end you need both.
[05:29] <Anderson> Xenguy, I'll check for that. apt-cache search bcm ??
[05:29] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: it would be easier to just enter the command apt-get install restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:29] <Wyzard> m0: The sources don't matter unless you're a developer, but check all the binary ones
[05:29] <lmosher> Now, does anyone know of a panel applet that will let me see both CPU activies?
[05:29] <blanky> hey guys how can I send a system wide message
[05:29] <m0> already did
[05:29] <m0> now
[05:29] <blanky> through the terminal
[05:29] <m0> I Am relading
[05:30] <Wyzard> m0: Then close that window and hit reload
[05:30] <blanky> so if I'm in one terminal, how can I make it send a message to another one
[05:30] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: I believe you are correct - please advise Anderson
[05:30] <Wyzard> m0: Then upgrade again -- either "mark all changes" and apply in synaptic, or quit synaptic and run the update manager again
[05:30] <leeyee> Hi guys, that's odd it has no sounds on gaim 2.0.0, I've just upgraded it from gaim1.2 via apt-get, any idea?
[05:30] <Xenguy> Anderson: try what ArrenLex said
[05:30] <m0> Wyzard: I reloaded, and upgraded nothing to apply
[05:30] <MNGRVE> I had to make a few changes to my partitions, namely change two from ntfs to fat32, and i had to edit my fstab. They're mounting fine, but I'd like to change the labels on the links to them on my desktop. How would i go about that?
[05:30] <Anderson> Xenguy, Got it, thanks.
[05:30] <Wyzard> m0: You are running dapper, right?
[05:31] <m0> how do I know
[05:31] <Xenguy> Anderson: let us know if it works
[05:31] <m0> uname -a?
[05:31] <Wyzard> m0: "About Ubuntu" on the System menu
[05:32] <leeyee> Hi guys, that's odd it has no sounds on gaim 2.0.0, I've just upgraded it from gaim1.2 via apt-get, any idea?
[05:32] <m0> lol
[05:32] <Wyzard> m0: If you see "Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS -- the Dapper Drake" then you're running dapper
[05:32] <m0> Wyzard:  Could not launch menu item
[05:32] <Wyzard> m0: If not, then you're not
[05:32] <Wyzard> umm
[05:32] <m0> Wyzard: Details: Failed to execute child processes "yelp" no such file or directory
[05:32] <m0> Hmm Don'ty know what happened
[05:33] <Wyzard> OK, go back to that list of sources with checkboxes in synaptic
[05:33] <MNGRVE> what is the octal chmod code to give everyone permissions?
[05:33] <ArrenLex> 777
[05:33] <Wyzard> Are the sources titled "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS", or something else?
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> blanky: This is a really terrible way of doing it I'm sure, but a "fake" shutdown message would work.  (one of the switches for shutdown only simulates, with no actual shutdown)
[05:33] <MNGRVE> thanks
[05:33] <blanky> tonyyarusso, ah okay cool how can I do that
[05:33] <m0> yes they are Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[05:33] <Anderson> How do I view which kernel version are availible on my system?
[05:34] <ArrenLex> Anderson: uname -r
[05:34] <m0> Anderson: uname -a
[05:34] <Anderson> ArrenLex, I have multiple versions availible in my grub boot menu.
[05:34] <brosnan> Wyzard / m0 your issue is reported in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304370#c5
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> blanky: shutdown -k now Your message here  (details in 'man shutdown')
[05:34] <Anderson> ArrenLex, Don't know how to get rid of them, glad I didn't think time.
[05:34] <ArrenLex> Anderson: yes, but you're not currently running them. Are you attempting to see all kernels INSTALLED?
[05:34] <blanky> tonyyarusso, ah thanks! and that one wont really shutdown right?
[05:34] <m0> brosnan: hmm
[05:35] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[05:35] <blanky> just send the message
[05:35] <Anderson> ArrenLex, This**
[05:35] <Anderson> ArrenLex, yea
[05:35] <m0> brosnan: how do I export XLIB_SKIP
[05:35] <m0> i don't know what kind of language that is
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> blanky: Correct.
[05:35] <ArrenLex> Anderson: if you're running synaptic, why don't you just search for 'linux-image' and uninstall the ones you're not using?
[05:35] <chronoAZ> how can i check if i can receive mail using a courier-imap mail server?
[05:35] <blanky> thanks tonyyarusso !
[05:35] <simtower> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu -- apt-get update always gets "connection failed" errors even though i can connect to the mirrors just fine
[05:35] <rmd_> i need to uninstall ubuntu, but i need to use my dell restoration partition.  however, since grub is my bootloader, i cannot access the restoration software via ctrl+f11.  how can i access the dellrestore parition and start from scratch?
[05:36] <Anderson> ArrenLex, I like to learn the command line, it will help in the event I have some remote administration to do.
[05:36] <m0> beh
[05:36] <m0> I am going to uninstall XORG
[05:36] <m0> all it does is problems
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> rmd_: You'll need to add a grub entry for it.
[05:36] <Xenguy> Anderson: dpkg -l *linux-image*     ?
[05:36] <GhostFreeman> enjoy your textual interface
[05:37] <Wyzard> brosnan: That shouldn't prevent update-flashplutin from working, though
[05:37] <rmd_> tonyarusso, where can i read up on that?  i'm on the grub website but it is confusing as 'ell
[05:37] <ArrenLex> Anderson: all I can come up with is this. It's a hacky way, but it works.
[05:37] <Anderson> Xenguy, I was just thinking that.
[05:37] <ArrenLex> WARNING: it will remove all kernels but the currently running one, without prompting!
[05:37] <ArrenLex> dpkg --list  | awk '{ print $2 }' | grep linux-image | grep -v `uname -r` | xargs apt-get remove --purge -y
[05:37] <Wyzard> m0: How about just disabling Composite or AIGLX or whatever it is you're using, instead of removing all of X
[05:37] <m0> how do I disable it?
[05:37] <m0> its n ot working
[05:38] <Xenguy> Anderson: I would urge caution at this point =)
[05:38] <Wyzard> m0: What did you do to enable it?
[05:38] <blanky> hey ChrisWhite what was the solution you gave me
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> rmd_: Good question.  Honestly, the place I'd start though is just the comments in the menu.lst file, since they're pretty good.  Then maybe go back to the grub site after that.
[05:38] <blanky> to displaying the ubuntu version
[05:38] <blanky> please?
[05:38] <blanky> i forgot
[05:38] <m0> AIGLX/compiz has a major bug now hehe
[05:38] <blanky> /etc/rls-version or something/?
[05:38] <Anderson> Xenguy, I'm thinkin the same, I found the version. That scripting stuff looks fancy.
[05:38] <rmd_> tonyyarusso: thanks loads for the help.
[05:38] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: if you don't understand parts, I can explain it in private message if you want.
[05:38] <Xenguy> Anderson: it's great scripting, but it is very easy to make a mistake with one-offs I've found :-)
[05:39] <Wyzard> m0: AIGLX and Compiz aren't in Dapper, so you must have done something to install them yourself...  whatever it was, you need to remove it
[05:39] <Tidus> yay!
[05:39] <m0> i will try
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> rmd_: (Note: on some kinds of machines there's something funny where the partition table will have the wrong type set for your recovery, so if after you make the grub entry it fails to boot right, you might need to use fdisk to change it.  Weird, but sometimes true.)
[05:39] <Anderson> Xenguy, One-offs???
[05:39] <blanky> nevermind ChrisWhite got it
[05:39] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: see above.  Respect (I'm just cautious from experience :-)
[05:39] <blanky> hey guys
[05:39] <blanky> when i do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it says
[05:39] <Tidus> linksys WPC54G V.2 working on linux WITHOUT using ndiswrapper
[05:39] <Wyzard> m0: But none of that has anything to do with why your system isn't seeing the current version of the flashplugin-nonfree package
[05:39] <rmd_> tonyyarusso: thanks again
[05:39] <blanky> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:39] <blanky>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: amarok but it is not going to be installed
[05:39] <blanky> E: Broken packages
[05:39] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: what do you want me to see above?
[05:39] <VR_> hey guys, is it possible to quickly download multiple files at once, with wget? like, file1.txt file2.txt file3.txt, all at the same time/
[05:39] <blanky> what does that mean? sorry i didn't know it was that long
[05:40] <m0> Wyzard: I really don't know what to do :s
[05:40] <VR_> *?
[05:40] <seshomaru123> hello, can anyone help me configure my ftp (proftpd) server on Ubuntu ? (I'm trying to network install FC5, so I put the FC5 iso image in Ubuntu and I want to use it as an FTP server , I installed proftpd but cant seem to get it running)
[05:40] <Xenguy> Anderson: I just mean that the greater the complexity of anything, the greater the probability of bugs -- it only stands to reason
[05:40] <Anderson> Xenguy, agreed.
[05:40] <TestDrivenBug> Hi, I have a application question. What cross compatible (Windows/ Linux) application is available for webcam + chat?
[05:40] <Wyzard> m0: I just checked what repository it's in...  "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Backports"
[05:40] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: comment re: caution; or, don't worry about it :-)
[05:40] <Wyzard> m0: Make absolutely certain you have the backports repository enabled, and then you can update Flash
[05:40] <ArrenLex> Oh. That explains it. "(21:39:33) ArrenLex: Xenguy: if you don't understand parts, I can explain it in private message if you want." Xenguy -> Anderson
[05:40] <ArrenLex> I'm sure Xenguy understands it all. xD
[05:41] <blanky> where the heck can i get libvisual-0.4-0
[05:41] <rmd_> where is this menu.lst file?  beagle can't find it.
[05:41] <ArrenLex> rmd: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:41] <Tidus> rmd_: sometimes menu.lst is grub.conf
[05:41] <Anderson> ArrenLex, I appreciate the help, I think I'll stick to non-scripting for now. I'm still recovering from a Windows addiction. My therapist says I'm doing great =]
[05:41] <rmd_> thanks again to both
[05:41] <m0> k Wyzard
[05:41] <m0> Wyzard: I enabled the non-free in backport
[05:42] <poningru> Anderson: heh
[05:42] <m0> hmm now I am applying
[05:42] <Anderson> ArrenLex, I don't see that.
[05:42] <m0> Wyzard: :)
[05:42] <seshomaru123> when I run proftp start I get a fatal: Socket operation on non-socket error , what can I do?
[05:42] <ArrenLex> Anderson, what don't you see??
[05:42] <ArrenLex> -?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> Tidus: Really?  I've never seen that.  In a grub directory, sure (which beagle wouldn't be indexing).
[05:42] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: FWIW it looks like it would work fine - the problem is that you only find out it has unintended consequences after it is too late -- common sense :-)
[05:43] <TestDrivenBug> any idea for a good webcam chat application that I can use on linux + windows?
[05:43] <simtower> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu -- apt-get update always gets "connection failed" errors even though i ping or browse to the mirrors just fine
[05:43] <Anderson> Arrenlex  Oh. That explains it. "(21:39:33) ArrenLex: Xenguy: if you don't understand parts, I can explain it in private message if you want." Xenguy -> Anderson
[05:43] <Wyzard> m0: I'd still recommend uninstalling your AIGLX stuff...  it's nice to try out as a tech preview, but there's a reason it's not in the stable release yet
[05:43] <ArrenLex> Xenguy, yes, that's why I warned him. (21:38:09) ArrenLex: WARNING: it will remove all kernels but the currently running one, without prompting!
[05:43] <m0> m0@m0-laptop:~$ sudo update-flashplugin
[05:43] <m0> Downloading...  done.
[05:43] <Tidus> tonyyarusso: grub will use either file
[05:43] <m0> Thanks Wyzard :)
[05:43] <poningru> simtower: in your /etc/apt/sources.list make sure the link is the right one
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> Tidus: Ah, okay.
[05:43] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: GnomeMeeting
[05:43] <poningru> ping the links in your sources.list
[05:43] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: stop stroking you ego - I saw your comment, and I urged caution for the same reason you did -- enuf said
[05:44] <ArrenLex> o_O
[05:44] <ArrenLex> I'm confused in this conversation.
[05:44] <poningru> guys coc
[05:44] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: indeed
[05:44] <simtower> poningru, i have tried it with 3 USA mirrors and they all fail
[05:44] <Anderson> && anderson
[05:44] <m0> Wyzard: sooner or later I will be a develloper on linux
[05:44] <m0> instead on windows
[05:44] <linlin> how do i start the ubuntu install from a command line? I prefer to not use the GUI installer, is the old one still available?
[05:44] <lupine_85> !alternate
[05:44] <ArrenLex> linlin: you need to download the alternate CD.
[05:44] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[05:45] <linlin> darn
[05:45] <TestDrivenBug> Wyzard, thats netmeeting counterpart right? Don't the involving parties have to pay for getting useraname?
[05:45] <Wyzard> alternate installer is needed if you want to install on LVM, too...  the GUI installer only supports installing to plain partitions
[05:45] <chronoAZ> how can i check if i can receive mail using a courier-imap mail server?
[05:45] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: yes and no, respectively
[05:45] <Anderson> install in progress
[05:45] <lupine_85> try to download  a message :)
[05:45] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: at least, not that I've ever heard of
[05:46] <poningru> TestDrivenBug: you can use ekiga.net for the username
[05:46] <TestDrivenBug> Wyzard, hmm, I couldn't find one.
[05:46] <Malice_> fuhquake the site is down anyone know of another?
[05:46] <TestDrivenBug> poningru, oh :)
[05:47] <Wyzard> Oh, I forgot, they renamed it to Ekiga
[05:47] <m0> restartng ..
[05:47] <Malice_> fuhquake is ekiga now?
[05:47] <TestDrivenBug> poningru, Wyzard thanks :)
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> I had a very odd problem with Ekiga.  Partway through a call it would just start this popping/snapping noise and I couldn't hear the other person.  Same thing on their end.
[05:49] <slime> i just install gcc, error was  "stdio.h" no file or directory
[05:49] <minerale> does anyone have experience with bluetooth? I can't seem to turn it on, I know i've got the hardware and the kernel module is loaded
[05:49] <Wyzard> slime: Install libc6-dev
[05:50] <Wyzard> slime: or better yet, install build-essential, which depends on that plus some other things
[05:50] <artzneo> hola
[05:50] <slime> Wyzard: i'll go for build-essential, thx
[05:50] <artzneo> mm ubuntu en espaol =)
[05:50] <artzneo> ??????
[05:50] <[NP] Tangent> uh oh
[05:51] <Wyzard> artzneo: #ubuntu-es
[05:51] <[NP] Tangent> I'm having some problems with various applications
[05:51] <artzneo> gracias =)
[05:51] <[NP] Tangent> ie, many errors that look like this one: [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT
[05:51] <etzerd> ?
[05:51] <[NP] Tangent> as such, Xine, OpenOffice, and others don't work anymore
[05:51] <[NP] Tangent> how might I fix this?
[05:51] <etzerd> when is the new version of ubuntu will be out?
[05:51] <slime> i think i'll remove vim 6.0 and install vim 7.0 any recommandation of what i should do?
[05:52] <[NP] Tangent> I've tried reinstalling the fglrx packages
[05:52] <Wyzard> etzerd: December, presumably
[05:52] <ArrenLex> NP: I had a lot of problems with fglrx. I eventually just stuck to plain 2D drivers. Do you need 3D?
[05:52] <Toilet`Duck> is there an irc client out there apart from xchat which has the same feel and look as mirc?
[05:52] <Toilet`Duck> or pirch or something.
[05:52] <ArrenLex> etzerd: the new version is scheduled for Oct. 26
[05:52] <[NP] Tangent> ArrenLex, for bzflag I would need 3D
[05:53] <etzerd> thanks Arrenlex
[05:53] <Wyzard> ArrenLex: They didn't shift the rest of the release cycle when they delayed dapper?
[05:53] <ArrenLex> NP: Sorry, I can't help you. Did it always do that or did it start after some sort of upgrade?
[05:53] <etzerd> I hope the new version can play DVD out of the box!
[05:53] <[NP] Tangent> it started after I ended up reinstalling X
[05:53] <ArrenLex> Wyzard: wikipedia says Oct. 26
[05:53] <[NP] Tangent> I had something go horribly wrong, so I reinstalled X server
[05:54] <ArrenLex> etzerd: it won't. It's illegal.
[05:54] <Wyzard> etzerd: unlikely...  Ubuntu can't distribute DVD codecs for legal reasons, not because of anything related to the release cycle
[05:54] <etzerd> I have running the automatix or easyubuntu for more than an hour
[05:54] <[NP] Tangent> might it perhaps be a package for X server that I'm missing?
[05:54] <ArrenLex> etzerd: DVDs are encrypted. Do decrypt them you need libdvdcss. This library is not legal in the states.
[05:54] <ArrenLex> Do -> to
[05:54] <Wyzard> and in some other countries too
[05:55] <etzerd> ok sorry
[05:55] <etzerd> by the way Arrenlex do you know any changes or look that the new version will come with?
[05:57] <etzerd> I used automatix for the past 3 hours it is still running at the present moment.
[05:57] <ArrenLex> etzerd: Gnome 2.16 for one.
[05:58] <iLLf8d> good evening all
[05:58] <Madpilot> etzerd, automatix is a good way to break your system; it's best avoided.
[05:58] <etzerd> Wow ArrenLex you mean the version will come with Gnome 2.16?
[05:58] <ArrenLex> etzerd: You can find out more at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft?highlight=%28eft%29%7C%28edgy%29
[05:59] <ArrenLex> etzerd: also wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgy_Eft#Edgy_Eft
[05:59] <etzerd> thanks Madpilot, I won't use it again
[05:59] <iLLf8d> hrm
[05:59] <iLLf8d> whats 6.06 called?
[05:59] <bruenig> Dapper Drake
[05:59] <iLLf8d> ah
[05:59] <iLLf8d> who makes up the names?
[06:00] <ArrenLex> iLL: Mark Shuttleworth, the head honcho, I'm assuming.
[06:00] <bruenig> some mailing list, ultimately okayed by Shuttleworth from what I have seen
[06:00] <bruenig> have read*
[06:00] <seshomaru123> hi all , im installing proftpd and get this error:If you are indeed using xinetd, you will have to convert the
[06:00] <seshomaru123> above into /etc/xinetd.conf format, and add it manually. See
[06:00] <seshomaru123> /usr/share/doc/xinetd/README.Debian for more information.
[06:00] <seshomaru123> -----------------------------------------------------------
[06:00] <seshomaru123> ProFTPd warning: not start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode, apparently. Check your configuration.
[06:01] <Schalken> how come i have a folder with 777 permissions yet when i try to open it with nautilus it says 'access was denied'?
[06:01] <ArrenLex> Schalken: you don't own it. 'sudo chown <yourusername> folder'
[06:01] <Schalken> Schalken: i do own it.
[06:01] <etzerd> Thanks ArrenLex, I'm reading it now.
[06:01] <Schalken> Schalken: ill do chown to make sure tho
[06:01] <bruenig> Schalken is using his own name in his messages?
[06:02] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: Schlaken is talking to himself. That's kind of weird.
[06:02] <bruenig> lol
[06:02] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: you're really handsome.
[06:02] <Schalken> lol
[06:02] <Schalken> my bad
[06:02] <iLLf8d> seshomaru123, sounds like you should dpkg --reconfigure proftpd and tell it to use standalone and or apt-get remove --purge then reinstall (but the purge will nuke everything related to this)
[06:02] <[NP] Tangent> [NP] Tangent, don't you agree that [NP] Tangent is a raging idiot?
[06:02] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: [NP] Tangent sure is a raging idiot, isn't he.
[06:02] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: I couldn't agree more, ArrenLex.
[06:03] <ChrisWhite> alright mom, I promise I won't get drunk like that again
[06:03] <bruenig> why would you need to own it if it had 777
[06:03] <ChrisWhite> just please make these weird self dialogue people go away :(
[06:03] <Rookie-> only 800 users .... hmmm ... and most are talking to them selfs .... got to be sunday
[06:03] <seshomaru123> iLLf8d, thanks i will try
[06:03] <Schalken> ArrenLex: i own the file and with 777 permissions yet nautilus cant open it. i can cd into it though.
[06:04] <ArrenLex> Schalken: go to the directory where the file is and run 'ls -l <file>' and paste the result here.
[06:04] <Rookie-> ftp account ?
[06:04] <Rookie-> ftp user ?
[06:04] <ChrisWhite> I get to try out network manager on monday
[06:04] <bruenig> Schalken,  you should try running this command in terminal "nautilus directory"
[06:04] <ChrisWhite> since there's no one around here to steal wifi from
[06:04] <ArrenLex> Scalken: you can't cd into a file. Is it a file or a filder?
[06:05] <bruenig> with the directory changed to what you want
[06:05] <Schalken> bruenig: tried that, same prob
[06:05] <ArrenLex> filder -> folder
[06:05] <iLLf8d> bbiaf
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> grr
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> I need to get this stuff all working
[06:05] <Schalken> ArrenLex: it is a folder. i can cd into it, however nautilus can't open it.
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> why would I get that when I try to run Xine?
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> it worked before
[06:05] <ArrenLex> Schalken: ls -l <folder>
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> then when I reinstalled Xserver
[06:05] <Schalken> the line for the folder reads: "drwxrwxrwx 2 jesse jesse 1616 2006-09-19 05:09 Visual Communication"
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> it went kaboom
[06:06] <runes2006> I installed samba server and client then shared a folder in linux...when I use my windows box which is on the same local network I can acces the box buit it wants a uid and password but rejects them all?
[06:06] <jijiu> hi guys.. i'm trying to compile something on a ubuntu dapper 6.06 and it doesn't find the -lpthread library.. wich package should i install to get it working? i can't find it on my apt
[06:06] <Schalken> ArrenLex: ^ from ls -l
[06:07] <seshomaru123> iLLf8d, I get this error again: ProFTPd warning: not start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode, apparently. Check your configuration.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> !info libpthread
[06:07] <ubotu> Package libpthread does not exist in any distro I know
[06:07] <kitche> runes2006: samba uses it's own user information
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Hmmm
[06:07] <ArrenLex> Schalken: everything should work. It must be something with nautilus.
[06:07] <ArrenLex> Schalken: I use KDE so I can't help you further. Sorry.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> kaffe-pthreads - A POSIX threads enabled version of the Kaffe VM  - is the only hit i get
[06:07] <Schalken> ArrenLex: why would it pick on just this little folder?
[06:07] <bruenig> Schalken, try gksudo nautilus and see if it will let you navigate into it
[06:08] <runes2006> kitche, the interface only allows me to select the file I want to share it says noting about users
[06:08] <ArrenLex> Schalken: hell if I know. Are there any unusual circumstances surrounding it?
[06:08] <kitche> runes2006: samba uses it's own user databse
[06:08] <kitche> runes2006: you have to set the users up
[06:08] <jijiu> Dr_willisme too Oo
[06:08] <Schalken> bruenig: i can navigate through it in nautilus as root, yes
[06:08] <runes2006> kitche, ok but umm that doesn't explain how I get to log into it
[06:09] <bruenig> Schlaken, that appears to indicate something, not sure what but certainly something
[06:09] <Schalken> ArrenLex: i will just copy its contents into a new folder using the terminal
[06:09] <zcat[1] > is there a way of setting up ubuntu so it will coexist in a windows network without a DHCP server, using 192.169.254.* addresses like windows does and switching to DHCP if a server appears later?
[06:09] <bruenig> Schalken, try chmod 777 -R directory
[06:09] <runes2006> kitche, is there a tool in ubuntu to create users?
[06:10] <kitche> runes2006: see if swat is enabled it's an easy way to configure samba compared to the writing the configs by hand
[06:10] <bruenig> maybe there is some problem with something in the directory
[06:10] <ArrenLex> bruenig: no, he has full permissions already.
[06:10] <runes2006> ok thx brb
[06:10] <bruenig> just the folder not recursively
[06:10] <ArrenLex> bru: it shouldn't matter.
[06:10] <ArrenLex> Not to open the folder.
[06:10] <ArrenLex> I have to go. Good luck, all.
[06:10] <kishore> r there any wildcards in.. linux
[06:10] <bruenig> kishore, the * is a wildcard
[06:11] <ArrenLex> Kishore, of course. Asterisk.
[06:11] <Schalken> bruenig: done that, same problem.
[06:11] <kishore> ya.. can i use...how
[06:11] <bruenig> Schalken, well change the directory I guess
[06:11] <supermiguel> how can i install nfts-3g is asking me for libc6 libntfs-3g
[06:11] <jason_> is it possible to change the Daemon loading screen?
[06:11] <briguyd> so how do i get it to run a command every time it starts up or logs on or something?
[06:11] <kitche> kishore: easy let say you want to search for a file in a certain directory you would eo ls -l blah*.txt and it will look for everything that starts with blah
[06:12] <supermiguel> how can i install nfts-3g is asking me for libc6 libntfs-3g
[06:12] <zcat[1] > briguyd: /etc/rc2.d/ for bootup, preferences > session for login..
[06:12] <bruenig> kishore, fore instance. Let's say you have three files "stupid" "smart" and "other".  But it will have something similar somewhere
[06:13] <Schalken> bruenig: using the terminal i managed to copy the contents into a new directory and delete the old one. i have a feeling the filesystem was currupt, because it should have been working.
[06:13] <jason_> Does anyone know how i can change the Ubuntu boot screen?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !usplash
[06:14] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:14] <Dr_willis> jason_,  and its a Pain.
[06:14] <jason_> ah, thanks.
[06:15] <runes2006> kitche, no go
[06:15] <jason_> i just want to change the ugly colors
[06:16] <supermiguel> !lib
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <slime> how do i install vim 7.x ?
[06:17] <jbroome> !info vim
[06:17] <supermiguel> how can i install libc6?
[06:17] <slime> the latest version for ubuntu is 6.x
[06:17] <ubotu> vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is important. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 541 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[06:17] <Asc> jason_: you can remove it entirely by deleting the word 'splash' from the entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:17] <jbroome> i thought i had 7, and i'm running dapper
[06:17] <Schalken> warning to all: nautilus may spontaneously boycott one of your folders so you cant open it. it happened to me, it could happen to YOU OMG LOL
[06:17] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"
[06:17] <TheH> please any help
[06:17] <Asc> jason_: as an added bonus, doing so makes the boot process look much more geeky.
[06:17] <slime> jbroome: can you check?
[06:18] <jbroome> slime: version 7.0.35   I'm not sure how i got it though. :)
[06:18] <jason_> Asc: That's even better, thanks. I was never keen on the splashscreen, always loved the oldschool Linux bootscreen
[06:19] <seshomaru123> can anyone recommend an ftp server?
[06:19] <runes2006> kitche, no go
[06:19] <Dr_willis> seshomaru123,  you will hear "use ssh instead of ftp'" a lot. :P
[06:20] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:20] <ArrenLex> BOO
[06:20] <Outerlimit> !perl
[06:20] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.7-10ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3219 kB, installed size 11172 kB
[06:21] <Schalken> !info epiphany-browser
[06:21] <ubotu> epiphany-browser: Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2188 kB, installed size 11040 kB
[06:21] <seshomaru123> Dr_willis, thanks but I need it for a Fedora network install
[06:21] <seshomaru123> I would like to serve the files from an Ubuntu ftp server
[06:21] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: vsftpd
[06:21] <Outerlimit> I have a question, what is the difference between using the Server installtion CD and using a CD that Ubuntu ships to you for free?
[06:22] <ArrenLex> Outerlimit: the CD that Ubuntu ships you for free is the desktop install CD, the same one you can download.
[06:22] <seshomaru123> Xenguy, I have proftp installed but can't get it running ,do I need to uninstall it first to run vsftpd?
[06:22] <ArrenLex> The Server install CD has no graphical interface. It can be used for low-end systems, to get a bare-bones install.  It's for most users.
[06:22] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: if there is a conflict, then installing vsftpd will reveal that I think
[06:23] <Outerlimit> i didnt have time to d/l the server install, so i used the one that is shipped to setup my server before i left for school
[06:23] <seshomaru123> Xenguy , thanks , where is vsftpd's directory?
[06:24] <Outerlimit> Sry for all the quetions, but could anyone tell me why when i attempt to run gkrellm to connect to my server at home (running gkrellmd) i get the error "Broken Server Connection"
[06:24] <Outerlimit> but if i am on the local network, it is fine
[06:25] <ArrenLex> Outerlimit: are you behind a router?
[06:25] <Outerlimit> Yes
[06:26] <Outerlimit> port forwarding is enabled on the router in front of the server
[06:26] <Outerlimit> do i need ports for the router in front of me here?
[06:27] <supermiguel> any one knows how can i set uo a ftp secure server
[06:28] <ArrenLex> supermiguel: I don't think we're that specialised, and nor do we have time to do whole walkthroughs. Google is your friend. "Linux sftp server howto"
[06:30] <supermiguel> im just bored
[06:30] <supermiguel> and i want to do something
[06:30] <Outerlimit> heh
[06:30] <ChrisWhite> solve bugs
[06:30] <Outerlimit> ArrenLex, do u think the problem is that im not forwarding ports on my side (client)
[06:31] <ArrenLex> Outerlimit: I'm not familiar with gkrellm. I can't answer your question.
[06:31] <supermiguel> Outerlimit: what are you tring to do?
[06:31] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, Im running gkrellmd on my server, and when i try to run gkrellm to monitor it here, i get broken server connection
[06:32] <Outerlimit> when i stop gkrellmd, it fails
[06:32] <Outerlimit> like it doesnt say broken server connectoin, but says it cant find the server
[06:32] <supermiguel> gkrellmd why are you using that
[06:32] <Outerlimit> do u have a better idea?
[06:32] <AlReece45> does anyone know how to fix a "IRQ INTR_SR lossage" problem?
[06:32] <supermiguel> ssh
[06:32] <supermiguel> basically
[06:32] <supermiguel> what do you want to do?
[06:32] <Outerlimit> i was using it because i wanted to monitor my server remotly and see graphical things
[06:33] <Outerlimit> like, cpu usage
[06:33] <Outerlimit> processes, ethernet, number of users
[06:33] <Outerlimit> well, i use ssh
[06:33] <supermiguel> ummm
[06:33] <supermiguel> wait
[06:33] <supermiguel> you want to make it secure
[06:33] <rmd_> i know this is probably the wrong place, but i cannot get grub (installed by ubuntu) to boot my dell restoration partition.  i've created the entry, but somethin called drmk says it cannot load the kernel... any ideas?  i've tried googling grub dell restore but i dont understand...
[06:33] <Outerlimit> rmd_, if u press f12 ( i ithink) u can tellthe BIOS to boot that
[06:33] <seshomaru123> Im trying to run vsftpd but get this error: ~$ sudo vsftpd
[06:33] <seshomaru123> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[06:34] <seshomaru123> any advice?
[06:34] <Outerlimit> for example, when u have windows installed, u dont get to select th dell partition
[06:34] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, secure is nice, but having it working first would be nicde
[06:34] <rmd_> Outerlimit: i think grub has removed that option because the dell knowledge base says it should be ctrl+f11 and it doesn't work for me.
[06:34] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: back; dpkg -L vsftpd
[06:34] <Dr_willis> my pc has a 'hit F11 to selet boot drive' option.  Its a bios option for my system.
[06:34] <Outerlimit> that should all be BIOS based...
[06:34] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: to get a list of files in the package
[06:35] <supermiguel> outer just put the monitors on your server
[06:35] <supermiguel> and just remote it
[06:35] <rmd_> but what if there was a bootloader that grub has replaced?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> but if its wanting to boot the 2nd partition on the drive.. Hmm
[06:35] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:35] <Outerlimit> rmd_, the previous bootloader was windows
[06:35] <rmd_> hmm
[06:35] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, im not sure how to do that
[06:35] <supermiguel> ok
[06:36] <Outerlimit> unless i just ssh in and type gkrellm
[06:36] <rmd_> it's not just dell, its anyone selling computers without restoration cd's
[06:36] <seshomaru123> Xenguy, sorry should i ran the command :dpkg -L vsftpd ?
[06:36] <rmd_> cds*
[06:36] <supermiguel> do you what to remote it from a linux or windows computer/
[06:36] <rmd_> anyway.  i'll try rebooting and pressing different fkeys
[06:36] <Outerlimit> im remoting in from linux
[06:36] <supermiguel> ok
[06:36] <Outerlimit> rmd_, another option
[06:36] <Outerlimit> is call dell and ask them for cds
[06:36] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: sure (completely safe; just a query)
[06:36] <Consty> What's the closest GTK app that competes with k3b?
[06:36] <supermiguel> outer do you know how to use vnc?
[06:36] <Outerlimit> im assuming you are trying to reinstall windos?
[06:36] <Consty> k3b has way to many dependencies in ubuntu.. I dont want to install a ton of kde crap.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> I think dell wants you to 'burn' your own restore dvd/cds :(
[06:36] <Outerlimit> superm1, no
[06:37] <supermiguel> ok
[06:37] <seshomaru123> Xenguy, ok , what do i do with the output?
[06:37] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: maybe after you've installed vsftpd is best
[06:37] <AlReece45> Can anyone here help me with "IRQ INTR_SF lossage" errors?
[06:37] <supermiguel> system > preferences> remote desktop
[06:37] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: you asked a previous question about directory location - this list will help you with that
[06:37] <supermiguel> activate # 1,2 and 3 (set up a hard password)
[06:37] <supermiguel> sorry 1,2 and 4
[06:38] <seshomaru123> Xenguy,  oh I undestand
[06:38] <Outerlimit> dont i need to do that on the server?
[06:38] <supermiguel> leave 3 uncheck the one that says ask for your confirmation
[06:38] <supermiguel> yes ssir
[06:38] <Outerlimit> ok, well i have a problem there
[06:38] <supermiguel> why
[06:38] <Outerlimit> cuz the server is hrs away
[06:38] <Outerlimit> at home
[06:38] <Outerlimit> im at college
[06:38] <jason_> is it possible to mount ISO's in Linux? Like Daemon tools for Windows?
[06:38] <seshomaru123> Xenguy, but it seems I get the same error on vsftpd that i got with proftpd
[06:39] <DJAdmiral> !iso
[06:39] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:39] <DJAdmiral> enjoy.
[06:39] <seshomaru123> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[06:39] <supermiguel> Outerlimit: well do you have any port open on your server?
[06:39] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, ssh is active
[06:39] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: what is the error? (please don't paste multi-lines into the channel tho :-)
[06:39] <Outerlimit> and the ports for gkrellm
[06:39] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: ahh
[06:39] <Outerlimit> i can remote into the router if need be
[06:39] <supermiguel> type on your console
[06:40] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: that error looks significant :-)
[06:40] <Consty> What is the closest competative burning application to k3b that uses gtk instead of qt?
[06:40] <supermiguel> vncviewer xxx
[06:40] <supermiguel> xxx will be your ip or domain
[06:40] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: I have no idea what it means
[06:40] <DJAdmiral> !img
[06:40] <seshomaru123> Xenguy - ok thank you ....I will keep looking.....
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about img - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <iLL_Afk> Consty, maybe gnome baker
[06:41] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, do that on this computer?  and does it need any ports other than ssh?
[06:41] <bruenig> Consty, gnomebaker
[06:41] <DJAdmiral> How does one write IMG files to a floppy disk?
[06:41] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: google the error message (as a phrase)
[06:41] <ArrenLex> !burn
[06:41] <tamacracker> Hey guys.... I have a question, has anyone successfully installed Photoshop 7.0 onto Ubuntu?
[06:41] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:41] <supermiguel> what is your ip?
[06:41] <Consty> The problem with gnomebaker is that it doesn't support copying dvd's.. anyone know a program for that?
[06:41] <supermiguel> let me try
[06:41] <Outerlimit> server is: outernet.dnsalias.net
[06:42] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:42] <supermiguel> can you ping that server?
[06:42] <Outerlimit> yes
[06:42] <DJAdmiral> Floppy disk images to disk, any idea?
[06:42] <Outerlimit> im ssh'd into it now
[06:42] <Outerlimit> well, ping no... i have ping turned off
[06:42] <Outerlimit> but i am ssh'd into it
[06:43] <DJAdmiral> Never mind then
[06:43] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:43] <Outerlimit> dont i need to enable vnc on the server before i can use it?
[06:43] <bruenig> !repeat
[06:43] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:43] <supermiguel> some times
[06:43] <Outerlimit> OIC
[06:43] <Outerlimit> what if i run vncpasswd
[06:43] <supermiguel> will be your machine
[06:43] <Outerlimit> if i run while sshd into my server...
[06:43] <tamacracker> Has anyone successfully installed Photoshop 7.0 onto Ubuntu?
[06:44] <TheH> yes I have done a lot a research that is how I got this to work, is just a minor thing I'm missing prolly
[06:44] <TheH> sorry
[06:44] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: wouldn't it be simpler to use the command-line (if possible) ?
[06:44] <ArrenLex> tama: yes, I have.
[06:44] <SuperBeing> Ubuntu's got 99 problems and the b!tch aint one
[06:44] <Outerlimit> Xenguy, im not sure... my original problem is i want to run gkrellm
[06:44] <ArrenLex> !language
[06:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:44] <SuperBeing> I keep getting black screens
[06:44] <tamacracker> I want to install it.. is there instructions on how to correctly install it?
[06:44] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: remember vnc runs in the clear, unless tunnelled over SSH
[06:45] <Outerlimit> Im fine with just using ssh
[06:45] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: oh, ok
[06:45] <Outerlimit> i dont know much about vnc
[06:45] <Outerlimit> i dont like in the clear over the internet =\
[06:45] <SuperBeing> I figured out how to fix this error in isntall, I switched VGA to 800x600, but now when I boot Ubuntu Server I just get a back screen
[06:45] <Outerlimit> on my local network, i dont care
[06:45] <ArrenLex> tama, get "wine" using synaptic or apt-get. Then just run 'wine setup.exe' on your setup file. The rest will explain itself.
[06:45] <supermiguel> have ytou ever
[06:45] <ArrenLex> tama: if you have problems, THEN ask for help.
[06:45] <supermiguel> use windows?
[06:45] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: it is useful, but needs an SSH tunnel over the Internet
[06:45] <tamacracker> ok cool
[06:46] <tamacracker> im gonna try to install it right now :D
[06:46] <supermiguel> outerlimit
[06:46] <supermiguel> have you use windows?
[06:46] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: freenx may be another option for you, depending
[06:46] <slime_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/T0MRbT70.html  <--- i did a ./config  how do i upgrade the library
[06:46] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, yes i have used windows
[06:46] <Outerlimit> i run linux all the time now
[06:46] <supermiguel> have you used remote desktop on windows?
[06:47] <supermiguel> that you can control another computer
[06:47] <TheH> anyone can help me with getting underscan to work on xorg?
[06:47] <supermiguel> and that kind of stuff?
[06:47] <Tenebrys> Hi!  I'm here to ruin your evening.
[06:47] <Outerlimit> yes, i have
[06:47] <supermiguel> thast vnc
[06:47] <Outerlimit> ok, well i dont want that
[06:47] <supermiguel> thats look like what you need
[06:47] <Outerlimit> no
[06:47] <Outerlimit> look
[06:47] <rmd_> well, grub can't boot it and none of the fkeys can bring up whatever is supposed to boot my dell restoration partition
[06:47] <supermiguel> :A
[06:47] <SuperBeing> can someone tell me how I can get it some sort of safe boot mode in ubuntu so I can maybe fix this video issue
[06:47] <Outerlimit> err... have u ever seen gkrellm?
[06:47] <supermiguel> yep
[06:47] <iLL_Afk> Tenebrys, you gonna ask noob questions and not listen to the answers?
[06:47] <Outerlimit> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
[06:47] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: you can boot to "restore mode" if you know your way around the command line. Do you?
[06:47] <Outerlimit> i just want a box like that
[06:47] <Outerlimit> on my desktop here
[06:48] <Outerlimit> it worked when i was at home on the local network
[06:48] <Outerlimit> now that im going through the internet, it is not working
[06:48] <SuperBeing> ArrenLex, yes, some what, but how do I get into restore mode in the first place?
[06:48] <SuperBeing> (keep in mind I can't get into commandline at all, at the moment, this is the issue)
[06:48] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: is grub your boot loader?
[06:48] <jason_> !iso
[06:48] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:48] <supermiguel> ummm
[06:48] <ArrenLex> If so, then just boot and select "restore mode" rather than your usual kernel.
[06:48] <SuperBeing> ya, i suppose so, it's a fresh install of Ubuntu Server
[06:48] <supermiguel> what ip are you using?
[06:48] <Tenebrys> Maybe not -completely- noob questions, and I'll try to listen.  But, my problem is with trying to get a proper boot-manager and such set up on my computer.  It appears that my Linux adventures have left me with a very "interesting" partitioning scheme, and there's pretty much no way to get to my Ubuntu partition other than indirectly.
[06:48] <Outerlimit> to connect to it?
[06:48] <runes2006> wishlist: a simple util to set up samba to share
[06:49] <SuperBeing> it just automatically goes to the usual kernal, how do I get to a select screen?
[06:49] <supermiguel> yep
[06:49] <Outerlimit> im using outernet.dnsalias.net
[06:49] <supermiguel> :A
[06:49] <Outerlimit> it works for ssh
[06:49] <supermiguel> did you set up
[06:49] <Outerlimit> port forwarding? yes
[06:49] <supermiguel> that port
[06:49] <supermiguel> to be realased on your machine?
[06:49] <TheH> can anyone PLEASE help me with getting underscan to work on xorg?
[06:49] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst into pastebin.
[06:49] <ArrenLex> !paste
[06:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:49] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, i dont know what u mean..
[06:49] <SuperBeing> ArrenLex, I can't access anything, right when it boots the screen is just blank
[06:49] <Outerlimit> released on which machine, and what does released mean
[06:49] <supermiguel> do you use any router?
[06:50] <CVirus> what was the apt-get argument that fetches an updated list of hardware names for lspci ?
[06:50] <SuperBeing> I don't have access to ubuntu or linux at all
[06:50] <Outerlimit> i have one at home, and ports are being forwarded
[06:50] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: you're going to have to boot from a rescue CD, then.
[06:50] <SuperBeing> it boots to it (so it says), but then I just get a blank sreen
[06:50] <Outerlimit> and i have one here
[06:50] <Tenebrys> After some screwing around this evening, I now have... let's see.
[06:50] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: was it always like this or did it just break?
[06:50] <supermiguel> can you ping that port?
[06:50] <SuperBeing> this is a fresh install
[06:50] <Tenebrys> /dev/sda1 : My main Linux partition
[06:50] <SuperBeing> so it was my first time installing ubuntu server
[06:50] <Schalken> ArrenLex: omg Nautilus boycotted by "Visual Communication" folder again!!!
[06:50] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: has ubuntu or any flavour of Linux worked before?
[06:50] <SuperBeing> haven't tried others
[06:51] <Tenebrys> /dev/sda4 : 5-gig Linux partition that I installed just so I could get grub back on my system
[06:51] <muhammad> heey how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation , in fedora its like shift+print is there any syskey that do the same operation in ubuntu /
[06:51] <SuperBeing> i've tried ubuntu desktop and that worked, but when i'd log off i'd get the black screen of death as well
[06:51] <Tenebrys> /dev/sda2 : WinXP partition that started this whole mess
[06:51] <ArrenLex> Schalken: rename it to something with a short name with no space. i.e. in the command line, execute 'mv Visual\ Communication foobar'
[06:51] <ArrenLex> Then see if Nautilus will open it.
[06:51] <Tenebrys> /dev/sda3 : The innocent bystander through it all, Linux Swap.
[06:51] <Outerlimit> i dont know how to ping a port...
[06:51] <TheH> can anyone PLEASE help me with getting underscan to work on xorg?
[06:52] <Tenebrys> It would appear that when I installed Windows XP on this system, I was careful to leave plenty of unallocated HD space for it to be installed to.
[06:52] <Outerlimit> BUt i can tellu this
[06:52] <Outerlimit> when i do /etc/init.d/gkrellmd stop
[06:52] <Outerlimit> on the server
[06:52] <Outerlimit> i get a different error msg
[06:52] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, you installed winxp second?
[06:52] <Tenebrys> Yeah, I did.
[06:52] <Schalken> ArrenLex: calling it foobar fixed it :S that didnt work last time
[06:52] <supermiguel> every time that you tried
[06:52] <Tenebrys> And when I did, it decided to make itself the only bootable partition.
[06:52] <Outerlimit> when gkrellmd is stopped, i get Unable to connect
[06:52] <medic30420> does anybody know if you can have two people working on the same computer at the same time, one locally and the other remotely.  (everything is ubuntu, and different xsessions)
[06:52] <supermiguel> it gived you a differetn error
[06:52] <SuperBeing> ArrenLex, ive experienced this black screen several times in different situations. With Ubuntu Desktop, when choosing install, i'd get it, I fixed this by changing VGA to 800x600, once it instlaled, it booted properly, however when i'd log off gnome, i'd get that black screen again
[06:52] <Outerlimit> when it is running
[06:52] <CVirus> what was the apt-get argument that fetches an updated list of hardware names for lspci ?
[06:52] <Outerlimit> i get Broken Server Connection
[06:52] <Schalken> Schalken: nautilus is being increadable unpredictable
[06:52] <ArrenLex> Scalken: that's very odd. There's nothing WRONG with a long name with a space. It should open.
[06:52] <Outerlimit> and Yes, those errors are the same everytime
[06:53] <Xenguy> CVirus: update  ?
[06:53] <SuperBeing> Now after installing ubuntu server, i get this black screen after booting
[06:53] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: Schalken is talking to himself again.
[06:53] <Schalken> aww dammit
[06:53] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: Indeed. Lunatic.