[15:02] <scunizi> Ganseki: that's not true.. by installing the official driver from nvidia it will not remove all the nvidia stuff that ubuntu puts in.. you have to remove it using synaptic first before installing the nvidia downloaded driver otherwise you risk borking your system .. <--- grey08
[15:02] <grey08> Ganseki: alright, thanks
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: sup
[15:03] <grey08> scunizi: ok.....
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Omar87: you can get it from here if you want to compile http://projects.gnome.org/brasero/#download
[15:03] <anooptp> ActionParsnip ok
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: irfanview doesnt play nice with wine
[15:04] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I don't code either.. it's getting your machine to also be a web server, setting up an FTP server, streaming music/video to other machines in the house.. learning to live at the command line using mutt for email, irssi for IRC, elinks for web browsing etc.. there's lots to do without knowing how to code.. it's a whole different world..
[15:04] <grey08> scunizi: after i remove all the nvidia driver and reboot, am i able to "see" ?/
[15:04] <notwist> scunizi: i msged you if thats ok
[15:04] <anooptp> ya, so i search for alternative
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: im not sure ow to tackle this, the format is proprietary garbage which makes it hard to support in linux
[15:04] <notwist> brb
[15:04] <scunizi> grey08: yes.. disable the hardware driver first and restart the gui.. that will put the generic driver back in action.
[15:04] <anooptp> ActionParsnip y,
[15:05] <scunizi> notwist: I'm on irssi so I didn't catch that you pm'd me.. I'll look
[15:05] <happygrue> hello.  That live CD is pretty nice!  I am hoping to switch over from Win XP in the near future, and that really is a nice demo.
[15:05] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Well even command line scares me. I am using ubuntu with GUI
[15:05] <anooptp> is any other one like that in linux
[15:05] <grey08> scunizi: in that case, it will automatically download the driver?
[15:05] <happygrue> however:  My speakers didn't like it very much.
[15:05] <happygrue> is there much testing/driver stuff I can do from the demo?
[15:06] <anooptp> ActionParsnip i try gqview it is not supporting psd
[15:06] <ynk> i have a sort of a silly problem. i've been trying to install my ati drivers for the past few days now and finally found the right drivers. while installing, the gui box extends beyond the bottom of my screen and thus i cannot click "continue" as the manual instructs. i'm stuck in 800x600 until i can install my driver.. but i can't because the box extends beyond my display. any suggestions?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: because its adobe being annoying and keeping their stuff close to their chest (like flash)
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: the only real people who know about the data layout in psd is adobe and they suck
[15:06] <scunizi> grey08: if you haven't tried the driver in System>Admin>Hardware drivers then try that first. otherwise installing the driver from nivdia follow thier instructions
[15:07] <anooptp> ActionParsnip yes
[15:07] <scunizi> notwist: you here?
[15:07] <anooptp> ActionParsnip like pagemaker file too
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: anything adobe make, except pdf
[15:07] <grey08> scunizi: i have tried that, once i reboot, i will get error msg ---can not load nvidia kernel module
[15:08] <Omar87> ActionParsnip: I coudn't install it.
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> grey08: what is the output of: dkms status
[15:09] <anooptp> ActionParsnip gimp is supporting so i thought there may be one
[15:09] <grey08> ActionParsnip: nvidia, 96.43.09: added
[15:09] <ynk> is there a way to force a window to resize?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> grey08: what video card is it again please
[15:10] <anooptp> ActionParsnip ok see you bey
[15:10] <grey08> ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)
[15:10] <anooptp> bey to all :)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: i cant advise any further, personally
[15:10] <anooptp> how
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> grey08: ok
[15:10] <Omar87> ActionParsnip: I tried configure, and it worked, but when I trie "make", it said: "No terget specified"
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> !compile | Omar87
[15:11] <emretemp> hi all, I want to run my tomcat web application server with a non-root user (named as tomcat), at the command prompt I can do it typing "su - tomcat /opt/tomcat/bin/start.sh"  everything is cool with this unless I mark tomcat user with "nologin" option at /etc/password file. well what  I want is to run tomcat with a non-root user, and I also dont want that user to be able to login with a ssh from outside. any solutions to this?
[15:11] <anooptp> it ok
[15:11] <anooptp> see you
[15:11] <nicklas_> anyone using tor or vpn? which one is best at hiding identity?
[15:11] <grey08> so..... i should remove all the graphic driver now?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> grey08: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-71; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:12] <grey08> ActionParsnip: ok
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> grey08: well it doesnt work so i'd say yes
[15:12] <scunizi> emretemp: if you don't get an answer here try #ubuntu-server or ##linux
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> my command will remove the 96 driver and install the 71 driver, lets see if that works
[15:12] <grey08> ActionParsnip: ok...i will try now
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> grey08: once installed, ctrl+alt+backspace and login
[15:13] <nETspideR> hello
[15:13] <Jimi_Neutral> sunizi: would it be ok to talk to you in a private channel?
[15:13] <grey08> ActionParsnip: which part do i need to ctrl ?
[15:13] <kibil_> hy
[15:14] <margaret> ok I am using a laptop with high def intel (HDA) audio all is fine, but everytime I shut the computer down and login pcm is at zero, if I run alsamixer and alsaconf will this fix it? or does it just fix it for alsa and not oss, what PCM a part of?
[15:14] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: would it be ok to talk to you in a private channel?
[15:14] <grey08> ActionParsnip: glx-71/
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> grey08: let the whole bunch of commands run
[15:14] <grey08> ActionParsnip: ok...i will try now
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> grey08: when it is done, hit the ctrl+alt+backspace
[15:14] <grey08> ActionParsnip: oook
[15:15] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: sure
[15:15] <UChiha> hy
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> grey08: its gonna remove all the old nvidia stuff that doesnt work and install the 71 driver which will hopefully work nice
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> i gotta split, its 3pm and ive not eatern
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> gl grey08
[15:16] <Guest17557> hi all, I have this problem error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, any help please ?
[15:16] <yy> 大家好呀
[15:16] <dead_> hello all
[15:16] <dead_> hallp
[15:16] <dead_> hello
[15:17] <grey08> can use chinese here?
[15:17] <epaphus> hey guys, what cd burning software does ubuntu come with.. and where is located??
[15:18] <zamba> i'm running ubuntu dapper (don't ask) and i need to get a newer version of rdiff-backup.. how can i do this?
[15:18] <storbeck> !cn > grey08
[15:18] <Ropechoborra> !chinese | grey08
[15:18] <headl_> @ epaphus , i think brasero
[15:19] <casa> hello
[15:19] <grey08> 好呀 yy
[15:19] <yy> 我英文不好，能用中文吗
[15:21] <vincent__> yy: you can join #ubuntu-cn
[15:23] <yy> ubuntu 台式机到底用那种内核较好
[15:23] <cumulus007> What the hell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543800
[15:23] <storbeck> Did freenode have a netsplit?
[15:23] <vincent__> yy:   "/join #ubuntu-cn" pls
[15:23] <grey08> ActionParsnip: Error! Could not locate nvidia.ko for module nvidia in the DKMS tree.
[15:23] <grey08> You must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.27-11-server (i686) first.
[15:23] <grey08> Done.
[15:24] <coffee1> where is sendmail installed on ubuntu intrepid?
[15:24] <margaret> anyone know
[15:25] <eressolar> coffee1: whereis sendmail
[15:25] <coffee1> eressolar: i get just "sendmail: " in the terminal.  is exim4 better?
[15:26] <grey08> ActionParsnip:  http://pastebin.com/m9b7f0
[15:29] <doglinoxyz> hello I enabled orca to run when I login , how I do to disable??
[15:29] <cpbtklogic> did you look in Adminstration > Users
[15:31] <master> #urbanterror
[15:33] <lakeoftea> riots in london @ g20 summit lol.  i bet they use windows
[15:33] <ks3> Has anyone managed to get Ubuntu working on the HP TouchSmart PCs? I can't get the touchscreen to work.
[15:33] <shadeslayer> hi guys, im in some major trouble,my windows partition is not seen by nautilus,i was trying out opensuse and started out to install it,but thought better of it and left it as it was quite complex
[15:33] <grey08> hello
[15:34] <genii> Every g(#) summit seems to have riots. Even when it was only 7 countries
[15:34] <shadeslayer> please help me get my partition back
[15:34] <ikonia> shadeslayer: thats not an ubuntu issue
[15:34] <grey08> i guess its my monitor's proble then
[15:34] <ccooke> That's off
[15:34] <ccooke> odd
[15:34] <ccooke> I thought the installer was able to resize partitions
[15:34] <lakeoftea> shadeslayer : can you still boot to windows?
[15:34] <shadeslayer> ikonia: uh i have all my files there,i dont even use windows now
[15:34] <shadeslayer> lakeoftea: no
[15:34] <ikonia> shadeslayer: thats still not an ubuntu issue
[15:35] <ikonia> shadeslayer: please don't ask in here
[15:35] <grey08> is there any command i can check if the graphic card is fully perfomance?
[15:35] <ccooke> has that capability been removed? It's not offering it on the guided install, nor am I able to when I go for manual install
[15:35] <shadeslayer> ikonia: ill leave the question
[15:36] <nicklas_> nobody can recommend tor or vpn? for hiding identity online?
[15:36] <assistencia> ALGUEL DO BRASIL AI
[15:36] <assistencia> OPS ALGUEM
[15:36] <Flannel> !br | assistencia
[15:37] <grey08> sudo nvidia-xconfig command not found...
[15:37] <LjL> !recover | shadeslayer
[15:38] <shadeslayer> LjL: thanks,ill see that
[15:38] <grey08> help
[15:38] <LjL> shadeslayer: have you tried mounting the partition manually with the "mount" command?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> LjL: of course
[15:38] <shadeslayer> /dev/sda5           38587       38914     2620416   dd  Unknown
[15:39] <grey08> HELP
[15:39] <coffee1> how do i uninstall sendmail?
[15:39] <grey08> !help
[15:39] <liar_> ..
[15:39] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:39] <ikonia> coffee1: remove the sendmail package with the package maanger
[15:39] <DSpair> G'day all!
[15:39] <grey08> !hello
[15:39] <grey08> hi
[15:39] <coffee1> ikonia: is there a terminal command for that
[15:39] <^D3vil^> yaa yaa thx for the welcome :)
[15:39] <grey08> LjL
[15:40] <ynk> my goodness, this is frustrating..
[15:40] <LjL> shadeslayer: well, i don't *think* mount cares about partition type... but you could still try cfdisk or something to set it as NTFS
[15:40] <ynk> is there any way at all i can resize a window that's not resizable?
[15:40] <grey08> HELPPP
[15:40] <LjL> grey08: please, behave
[15:40] <LjL> !helpme | grey08
[15:40] <shadeslayer> LjL: how do i do that?
[15:40] <grey08> !helpme
[15:41] <macman_> http://pastebin.com/m4b4c92e2 < -- these are the compression methods i tried but they are all the same
[15:41] <archman> ikonia, do you know a way I can make my laptop fan to work a little less? It runs on half a speed almost all of the time. Maybe some fix?
[15:41] <grey08> i was trying on the command..lol
[15:41] <LjL> shadeslayer: i don't remember precisely... let me try (hope i don't mess up my own partitions in the process :)
[15:41] <shadeslayer> LjL: thanks
[15:42] <ikonia> archman: no idea
[15:42] <coffee1> nevermind got sendmail to work, was a cache problem
[15:42] <macman_> grml = directory .. everything else is the compression i tried to use
[15:42] <Digital_Pioneer> Does the Acer Aspire One ship with a modified Ubuntu, or is it the same thing as the ISO I can download from ubuntu.com?
[15:42] <shadeslayer> LjL: any idea how to get in that partition forcefully,i just need to copy my data,i can format the partition after i get my data
[15:42] <dead_> help me please guys
[15:43] <LjL> shadeslayer: alright, so it's: "sudo cfdisk", then select the partition (up/down arrows), then select "Typ" (right arrow), then type 07 for NTFS (if it's NTFS, it is, right?)
[15:43] <shadeslayer> dead_: state your problem
[15:43] <storbeck> Digital_Pioneer: It's probably pre-configured with all the drivers you need
[15:43] <ikonia> davenpro: ask a question then
[15:43] <ikonia> oops
[15:43] <a_n_d_r_e_w> dead_, ?
[15:43] <ikonia> davenpro: sorry - typo
[15:43] <arno-t> hi in f-spot i imported some photos and later on deleted them from the drive (not from within f-spot). Is there an easy way to get rid of all the "orphan" thumbnails?
[15:43] <shadeslayer> LjL: yes its NTFS
[15:43] <LjL> shadeslayer: then select "Write", and the "Quit". be careful what you do with cfdisk anyway.
[15:43] <Digital_Pioneer> storbeck: Reasonable, so is there a place I can download one I'm sure has all of those drivers?
[15:43] <simplexio> Digital_Pioneer: attleast in one point you could install it from livecd and then use 3rd party repos to make it really work good
[15:44] <storbeck> Yep, a regular Ubuntu iso can do it
[15:44] <dead_> what is conficker??????
[15:44] <macman_> grml = an iso
[15:44] <shadeslayer> LjL:  FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder
[15:44] <Digital_Pioneer> dead_: Windows virus.
[15:44] <a_n_d_r_e_w> dead_, a virus
[15:45] <Digital_Pioneer> storbeck: So the regular CD has all the drivers I need?
[15:45] <storbeck> It should, yes
[15:45] <LjL> shadeslayer: ugh. i think you have worse things to worry about than the partition type, then
[15:45] <storbeck> shadeslayer: Have you tried to fsck it?
[15:45] <shadeslayer> LjL: like?
[15:46] <LjL> shadeslayer: well, it looks like your partition table is quite messed up in general
[15:46] <shadeslayer> storbeck: on a recovery terminal?
[15:46] <Tokenekie> I have a live USB and I need to update my bluetooth application on the live USB. How do I do that?
[15:46] <archman> ikonia, by what is a fan controlled?
[15:46] <genii> dead_: Ask about conficker worm in ##windows please, or google it
[15:46] <wamty> hey whats the command to "index" ther bin-path after apt-get install so that I can run the app without logging off ? thanks
[15:46] <shadeslayer> LjL: should i try fsck?
[15:46] <LjL> shadeslayer: did you interrupt the suse install while it was partitioning?
[15:46] <ikonia> archman: power managment
[15:46] <shadeslayer> LjL: yes :(
[15:46] <storbeck> wamty: updatedb
[15:46] <LjL> shadeslayer: i wouldn't recommend that
[15:46] <archman> ikonia, hmm...any ideas where should I look?
[15:46] <LjL> shadeslayer: well that was a *very* foolish thing to do :(
[15:47] <wamty> so?
[15:47] <LjL> shadeslayer: it's likely that you're about to have corrupt data also in *other* partitions. backup your whole HD using "dd" if you have the space somewhere.
[15:47] <shadeslayer> LjL: I know,please tell me how to repair it
[15:47] <wamty> whats the command to "index" ther bin-path after apt-get install so that I can run the app without logging off ? thanks
[15:47] <Excell> I tried to get the gui in fire starter to start @ boot..it says i do not have permissions..i found out how to bypass that..but..now i want it to stop loading gui..i delete it from sessions but it still tries to load.. how to fix?
[15:47] <storbeck> wamty: I just told you.... updatedb
[15:47] <Tokenekie> I have a live USB and I need to update my bluetooth application on the live USB. How do I do that?
[15:47] <LjL> shadeslayer: there's no magic recipe to repair it. you can try using "testdisk" (or another i can't remember now) to reconstruct the correct partition table
[15:47] <shadeslayer> LjL: hmm 320 GB internal HD and only a 2GB ipod with a install fest tommorow
[15:48] <dinu> Hi all
[15:48] <dinu> have a problem
[15:48] <shadeslayer> LjL: can fsck correct it ?
[15:48] <LjL> shadeslayer: NO
[15:48] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: as you would normally do on a not-live system
[15:48] <dinu> how to nstall Nvidia drivers on ubuntu 9.0.4
[15:48] <AnNahar> i have wubi and ubuntu 8.10
[15:48] <AnNahar> but it has openoffice 2.4:(
[15:48] <AnNahar> how do i update to the new one?
[15:48] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, Try chroot /liveusbfolder and then try using the normal apt.
[15:48] <shadeslayer> LjL: ok so no fsck
[15:49] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Ill try that, Ill get back to you
[15:50] <Ropechoborra> Ok :) tell me if it works
[15:50] <LiteShade> Would appreciate help with OO Calc newbie question. Thanks
[15:50] <LjL> shadeslayer: in my opinion, your first line should be 1) full backup 2) try "testdisk" and "gpart", they can "guess" your correct partition table sometimes
[15:50] <UsamaAkkad> AnNahar,
[15:50] <UsamaAkkad> I'm here whats up?
[15:50] <shadeslayer> LjL: where do i back up?? i have no external drives
[15:50] <Lego_Dan> hello everyone, I was wondering if i could as a quesiton
[15:51] <AnNahar> LjL, how do i update to the latest openoffice on ubuntu?
[15:51] <AnNahar> UsamaAkkad, i was saying why i was on irc
[15:51] <storbeck> Lego_Dan: questions aren't allowed in support channels
[15:51] <LjL> shadeslayer: i don't know what to say - using testdisk or gpart without having a backup image might be dangerous
[15:51] <LjL> AnNahar: i don't know
[15:51] <Lego_Dan> i see, i see...
[15:51] <Kesman_> yeah, only answers here
[15:51] <Digital_Pioneer> Lego_Dan: Don't ask to ask, just ask. :)
[15:51] <archman> Is there a way to control fan speed, cause I can see some increase in its speed lately...
[15:51] <Lego_Dan> ok, well i try to be polite :P
[15:52] <Digital_Pioneer> Lego_Dan: NP. What's up?
[15:52] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: When you say /liveusbfolder yoiu mean root right?
[15:52] <sdls> What is the difference between ubuntu server edition and desktop?  Is it just a matter of support?
[15:52] <shadeslayer> LjL: no problems,ill spend the night installing ubuntu+windows+opensuse+dell media direct ;)
[15:52] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, I mean the mounted usb device
[15:52] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: exactly, what do you want to do?
[15:52] <Kesman_> sdls: well the purpose naturally
[15:53] <LjL> archman: well, that might mean there's some dust on it which makes the cpu heat more than it used to
[15:53] <dead_> INDONESIA...INDONESIA
[15:53] <LjL> !id | dead_
[15:53] <Kesman_> sdls: and there's no graphical interface in the server as far as I know
[15:53] <sdls> kseman: ahhhh
[15:53] <Lego_Dan> Um currently I use FreeBSD, but I have a 2400HD that I haven't been able to use... (using crappy onboard intel card) to run my KDE/Compiz. And now I also can't install Openpanel, Openpanel works on Ubuntu though.. So Im just trying to find out if my Radeon will have 3d support (compiz) and im getting mixed answers everywhere I look
[15:53] <shadeslayer> LjL: do i run test disk from a terminal or recovery console?
[15:53] <Kesman_> sdls: there's this button left to your a key that has arrows in it. Use it with nick
[15:53] <Lego_Dan> so I was considering coming over to Ubuntu
[15:53] <Kesman_> nicks
[15:53] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: Im trying to update the bluetooth aplication on my live USB. And hopefully keep it updated for future boot-ups
[15:54] <archman> LjL, I thought about it, yes... thanks! I'll check it out, if it's not to big of a problem on my hp laptop...
[15:54] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, It should work fine on Ubuntu using the Restricted Drivers package.
[15:54] <LjL> shadeslayer: recovery would be best if you actually use it to re-write a partition table, but as long as you're just simulating it, you can do it anywhere
[15:54] <LiteShade> would like to be able to open a document first instead of opening the default (template) the a document, also wish that the document could be placed on the task(?) bar, so that I could click the icon, instead of having to open the OO Calc program.; Thanks
[15:54] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:54] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: then just boot to the Live system and do "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[15:54] <sdls> Kesman: so if I wanted to put Ubuntu in my office place.  I would likely use the desktop edition for all end users, but the servers (eg, a poweredge 1850 hosting our company webserver) would use the server edition?
[15:54] <shadeslayer> ill boot to recovery
[15:54] <DSpair> I have various Radeon cards working on Ubuntu, including my Sun servers.
[15:54] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: after updating your sources.list and all that
[15:54] <Lego_Dan> so there is 3d support for it :S why doesn't bsd have 3d support for it... and it should out preform my onboard intel card correct
[15:54] <Ubersoldat> you don't need to chroot nowhere
[15:55] <Digital_Pioneer> Lego_Dan: A real card will almost always outperform on-board.
[15:55] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, with chroot you make the folder as it was the root folder. So if you have the USB mounted to /media/usb then do sudo chroot /media/usb and then the update with apt-get
[15:55] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I can't guarantee that, but it certainly does in my experience.
[15:55] <Kesman_> sdls: exactly. The ubuntu desktop and server edition work very well together in a network
[15:55] <sdls> Kesman: I see.
[15:55] <hybr1der> could anyone here help me out fixing mythtranscoder i get an error: 139?
[15:55] <sdls> Kesman_:Thank you
[15:55] <Ubersoldat> Ropechoborra: if he's booting the Live why would he want to chroot to a system he's already rooted at
[15:56] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I know the frustration though. Moving from one *NIX to another can be a pain.
[15:56] <Lego_Dan> ok cool :) kinda makes me wish I tried Ubuntu before BSD... now im gunna have to learn it all over again :P
[15:56] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: terminal gives me "... /dev/sdb is not a directory"
[15:56] <platypus_> hello, after the recent system updates my desktop effects just stopped working and now cannot be enabled, did anyone else experience this? newest/most patched ubuntu.
[15:56] <Ropechoborra> Ubersoldat, Uhmm i dont know why i supoused he had mounted the usb, not booted it. Sorry
[15:56] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Just remember: It's not "ps -ef" it
[15:56] <storbeck> Lego_Dan: That's why I haven't switched to BSD yet :) I'm too used to Linux
[15:56] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Just remember: It's not "ps -ef" it's "ps ax".
[15:56] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: does safe-update update all the aps on the LiveUSB? I just want to update the bluetooth
[15:56] <Lego_Dan> ?
[15:57] <Kesman_>  /aw pois
[15:57] <GibbaTehHutt> platypus_, using gfx drivers from the repos, or compiled separately ?
[15:57] <Kesman_> :FF
[15:57] <Lego_Dan> one sec brb
[15:57] <Kesman_> remove space
[15:57] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: I don't know how you can update only a package
[15:57] <platypus_> i compiled mine sep GibbaTehHutt since the repos dont work for my card
[15:57] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, did you boot from the live usb ? I mean, are you in that ubuntu now?
[15:57] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, The "ps" command on BSD style is usually "ps -ef" for detailed process listing. On Linux it's SysV style and so uses "ps ax" for detail process listing.
[15:57] <Ropechoborra> Ubersoldat, i think if you try to install the package it will update it..
[15:57] <GibbaTehHutt> platypus_, every time there are kernel updates you will need to recompile it, pretty straight forward, just as you did before
[15:57] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Yes, I did an fdisk -l and found my usb to be /dev/sdb
[15:58] <platypus_> GibbaTehHutt, interesting
[15:58] <Ubersoldat> hmmm... certainly
[15:58] <Ubersoldat> let me try
[15:59] <Ubersoldat> Ropechoborra: you're right
[15:59] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, but are you using ubuntu from the LiveUSB or an ubuntu installed in a hard drive?
[15:59] <platypus_> GibbaTehHutt, I'll give that a shot, thanks
[15:59] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Ubuntu from live USB
[15:59] <Ropechoborra> Damn... i dont know how to say it in english :(
[15:59] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, so then forget chroot :)
[15:59] <Lego_Dan> ok sorry, knock at the door, so I missed that its "something" and not "this" ??
[16:00] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, do the sudo apt-get install (bbloothot package)
[16:00] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, The "ps" command on BSD style is usually "ps -ef" for detailed process listing. On Linux it's SysV style and so uses "ps ax" for detail process listing.
[16:00] <prince_jammys> DSpair: upside down?
[16:00] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Ah, yes like I was telling Ubersoldat, I want to make sure I update only my bluetooth package and not everything else. I dont have that much space on my flash drive
[16:01] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, Yeap, so put only the bluetooth package in the apt-get install command
[16:01] <Lego_Dan> ah.. i don't know either command :P im still pretty new i use ps auxx for something but don't remember what
[16:01] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Do you know where I can find the name of the bluetooth package?
[16:01] <DSpair> prince_j1mmys, Upside down? Whaddya mean?
[16:02] <dead_> i need ubuntuers from indonesian
[16:02] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Im trying to look for a search ability like "yum search" does
[16:02] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, wich program are you using ?
[16:02] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, there is one: sudo apt-cache search
[16:02] <Lego_Dan> um, will kubuntu install over my xp partion and still let me use my bsd partion
[16:02] <Ropechoborra> It may be usefull
[16:02] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: ITs just the bluetooth package that comes with the live CD .iso
[16:02] <mbeierl> Tokenekie, or just simple aptitude search <package>
[16:03] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, It can, but you will have to choose to do a manual partition config during the install.
[16:03] <phaer> Is it possible to just see processes running in a certain chroot?
[16:03] <Lego_Dan> ok, so it has a boot manager similar to bsd?
[16:04] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Yes, by default it uses GRUB, but it can also use LILO
[16:04] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, there is a package called "Bluetooth" (Bluetooth stack utilities) you may try that one... I'm not sure
[16:04] <kennethreitz> Has  anyone considered mergine Debian and Ubuntu? What does Ubuntu do that goes against Debian's philosophy?
[16:04] <Lego_Dan> LILO is the bsd one correct? does it matter which I use? i do know that if i re-install xp it messes the boot manager up and I can't access bsd anymore
[16:04] <Tokenekie> mbeierl: Ropechoborra: Is there a way to search for the name of the bluetooth package installed on your live USB already? I did a "sudo apt-cache search bluetooth" but, yeah, it gave me alot of results
[16:05] <mbeierl> oh, sorry what is installed already
[16:05] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Not too much. I find that GRUB works in 99%, but sometimes hardware like high end servers work better with LILO
[16:05] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: just check the first column. If you've got an "i" it's installed
[16:05] <mbeierl> Tokenekie, what is installed already is through dpkg -l | grep name
[16:05] <GibbaTehHutt> kennethreitz, ubuntu is based on debian, so not much point really, different philosophies :)
[16:05] <digifor> I am starting to think my brand new acer aspire one hard drive has failed.
[16:06] <Lego_Dan> ah ok, well this ain't no high end server :P so im sure GRUB will be fine, thanks :) i just don't want to mess my bsd if i get kubuntu installed and get lost :P
[16:06] <Lego_Dan> thanks :)
[16:06] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I just got a new Sun server which couldn't use GRUB, but LILO worked out of the box. It turned out to be the fact that the server had UEFI instead of a standard BIOS.
[16:06] <Ropechoborra> Ubersoldat, first column where?
[16:06] <wad> Running compiz under Ubuntu, with the nifty rotating desktop cube. Is there a way to put a different background image on each face of the cube? I've looked all through the options, and I don't see a way...
[16:06] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, No problem.
[16:06] <Ubersoldat> Ropechoborra: on the output of aptitude
[16:06] <lfaraone> How can I grep a file (HTML) for IP addresses? (they may be inside other words, such as foo://<IP_ADDRESS>/bar)
[16:06] <Ropechoborra> wad, did you try changing background image of each desktop ?
[16:07] <mbeierl> Tokenekie, example:
[16:07] <mbeierl> dpkg -l | grep blue
[16:07] <mbeierl> ii  bluetooth                                  4.32-0ubuntu3                     Bluetooth support
[16:07] <wad> Ropechoborra, no! Good idea.
[16:07] <DSpair> wad, There is, but it's an additional program.
[16:07] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: I dont think I see the "i"'s but mbeierl's method gave me a really good result. So I think I'll continue from there
[16:07] <Lego_Dan> is bind the default nameserver on ubuntu?
[16:07] <kennethreitz> tokenekie: sudo apt-get install bluez or something along those lines
[16:07] <kennethreitz> it has a z in it.
[16:07] <DSpair> wad, Look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482505
[16:07] <Lego_Dan> like i have bind, apache, php5, mysql, blah blah.. and basically want the exact same setup plus openpanel
[16:07] <Ubersoldat> uh, sorry, it's just that I always use aptitude, not apt
[16:07] <wad> When I change the image on one facet of the cube, it changes all of them.
[16:07]  * wad clicks DSpair's link
[16:07] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Yes, BIND 9 is the default in Ubuntu.
[16:07] <Tokenekie> mbeierl: Ubersoldat: Live USB says i have "bluetooth" and "libbluetooth3" installed so I think ill update those
[16:08] <Lego_Dan> sweet so it shouldn't be too hard for me to get it up and running the exact same.. possibly use the exact same *.conf files?
[16:08] <willbeeler> Hey guys!
[16:08] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, You'll probably be a convert the first time you fire up synaptic. The package manager on Ubuntu is AWESOME.
[16:09] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, The same conf files will probably work as long as you adjust the paths to suit the new filesystem layout.
[16:09] <ChrizC> Ubuntu's telling me to put in a rewriteable cd into my CD-RW drive, but there's already one in there? Why won't it write?
[16:09] <Lego_Dan> convert? you mean like pull the configs from bsd and put them right into ubunto
[16:09] <willbeeler> Ok, I dont' know if any of you have done much in the way of SSL certificates and Ubuntu server, but I have a question if you have...
[16:09] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, So, in apache.conf, you may have to change the web root path to "/var/www" or things like that.
[16:10] <Ubersoldat> ChrizC:  maybe you need to format it first
[16:10] <Lego_Dan> ah.. cool.
[16:10] <ChrizC> Ubersoldat: the cd, or the drive?
[16:10] <Lego_Dan> i heard that the file system is significantly different
[16:10] <Ubersoldat> the CD... how are you going to format a drive?
[16:10] <ChrizC> Ubersoldat: I really don't know. Anyway, how do I format the CD?
[16:10] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, You might want to look at the Linux Standards Base docs to see where files are typically found on Ubuntu. I know that the Apache configuration files on Ubuntu were weird to me when I switched.
[16:11] <mistereo075> hi
[16:11] <Lego_Dan> there is a find files and folders isn't there?
[16:11] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Ubuntu devides Apache configurations into "include" files for each module and that modules configuration.
[16:11] <Lego_Dan> so i should be ok :) if not google does it all :P
[16:12] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, And IRC covers the rest! :)
[16:12] <willbeeler> Has anyone worked with Installing SSL CA's Certs before?
[16:12] <Lego_Dan> LOL yup, kubuntu download is at 41% so Im sure you guys will be hearing from me some point after that :P
[16:12] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, The "find" command seems to work the same as other *NIX variants I have used in the past. KDE also has a graphical search tool.
[16:12] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: mbeierl: It worked. I did the "dkpg -l | grep bluetooth" to find my installed packaged. Then activated the "universe" repository thru synaptic. Then "sudo apt-get install bluetooth libbluetooth3". It is apparently the most recent version. Thank you.
[16:13] <Lego_Dan> yea i like the kde search feature but its seems a tad slow
[16:13] <Lego_Dan> meh
[16:13] <mbeierl> Tokenekie: you're welcome!  Glad it worked!
[16:13] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: good... but you'll lose all of that once you reboot
[16:13] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I think switching from BSD to Ubuntu will be a lot easier than when I tried to get back up to speed on Solaris a couple of months ago. Gawd!! That was horrible.
[16:13] <aaron1> hello
[16:14] <DSpair> Hello aaron1
[16:14] <aaron1> is there a way to make pigeon not close when i click on the X
[16:14] <Lego_Dan> LOL, well i think my pro here is that i haven't learned half the in's and out's of bsd
[16:14] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: I created the liveUSB using the System->Administration tools and allocated 1.2 gigs to save system settings so I'm hoping that would allow me to save updated packaged. It currently saves my desktop settings.
[16:14] <aq> helooo
[16:14] <DSpair> aaron1, You can configure pigeon to minimize to the tray on close, but you can't disable the close button complete.
[16:15] <DSpair> s/complete/completely/
[16:15] <aaron1> where do i go to minimize on close?
[16:15] <aaron1> i couldnt find it
[16:15] <DSpair> aaron1, Lemme look at mine and let you know in a sec.
[16:15] <aq> hi
[16:16] <DSpair> aaron1, "Tools->Preferences"
[16:16] <aaron1> yeah?
[16:16] <julio_> Hey guys! Is there one Ubuntu 8.05?
[16:16] <aaron1> where in prefs
[16:16] <DSpair> aaron1, Click on the "Interface" tab and make sure that the box for "Show system tray icon" says "Always".
[16:16] <Ropechoborra> julio_, Nope
[16:16] <aaron1> oh
[16:16] <aaron1> eh
[16:16] <aaron1>  /stupid
[16:17] <Ropechoborra> !version | julio_
[16:17] <kora-chan> hi, im using ubuntu 8.10; if i plug in my usb hard disk (ntfs formatted) it is mounted as read only. how can i make it mount read and write?
[16:17] <DSpair> aaron1, Nah, I'm used to seeing a box which says minimize to system tray myself.
[16:17] <julio_> Ropechoborra, tks :D just checking
[16:17] <aaron1> ok
[16:17] <aaron1> bye
[16:17] <prince_jammys> julio_: the second number in the version refers to the month it was released. the first is the year
[16:18] <Lego_Dan> oh kora brought up another question in BSD i mount my usb with "# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt" is it the same in ubuntu?
[16:18] <babybluesman> Hi everyone. I'm looking for a laptop. PC, Lightweight, Non-Glossy between 500-1000 bones. Similar maybe to a Think Pad. Any suggestions?
[16:18] <Picassotamus> kora-chan: Do you have the ntfs-3g package installed? that would be step 1
[16:18] <Myrtti> Lego_Dan: mount points tend to be in /media, otherwise yes
[16:18] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, No, it will automatically show up as an Icon on your desktop when you plug it in.
[16:19] <ZarroBoogs> babybluesman: Try asking in ##hardware
[16:19] <Lego_Dan> even though its msdosfs?
[16:19] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, To unmount, you just right-click and select "Unmount"
[16:19] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: i can mount it using the mount -t ntfs-3g command
[16:19] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Yup.
[16:19] <babybluesman> Ok, thanks
[16:19] <Lego_Dan> thats slick... they need to add that to bsd
[16:19] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: ill check if its installed mom
[16:19] <Lego_Dan> sorry all the talk of bsd.. but its all i know at this point :( that will soon change :P
[16:20] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: yap its there
[16:20] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Linux has a service called "UDEV" which monitors the kernel for new hardware events. It then passes that information on to "DBUS" which allows for automatic actions to be implemented for all sorts of hardware events.
[16:20] <natsukashi_> Is it hard to install Debian?
[16:21] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I have a USB TV tuner, and when I plug it in, it automatically launches XawTV. Fun stuff.
[16:21] <Lego_Dan> hmm.. in compiz manager DBUS refuses to be enabled.. does that mean I have problems with it.. and will that cause problems in ubuntu.
[16:21] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: do i have to modify fstab or is there an alternative?
[16:21] <virus_> hey everybody! i have a problem with my touchpad
[16:21] <Ropechoborra> natsukashi_, Its not the Ubuntu graphic like install but the theory is just the same :PP
[16:21] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I doubt it. DBUS isn't installed on BSD by default, and that is likely why Compix cannot use it on BSD.
[16:22] <aq_> f
[16:22] <aq_> sfv
[16:22] <aq_> svvs
[16:22] <aq_> sv
[16:22] <aq_> sbv
[16:22] <FloodBot1> aq_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <aq_> svb
[16:22] <Picassotamus> kora-chan: If you want it to mount properly everytime, then yes changing fstab would be my advice
[16:22] <___n00b___> hello all
[16:22] <Lego_Dan> ah.. makes sense. .but you would think that compiz would have installed it as a dependency
[16:22] <natsukashi_> Ropechoborra: I'm kind of new. Can I manage with trail by error? :P
[16:22] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: k thx
[16:22] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, One other kewl thing you can do with Compiz, DBUS, etc...: You can set up a scheduled job to automatically rotate you screen and other Compiz stuff. Not really useful, but fun noetheless.
[16:22] <___n00b___> can anyone help to make AssaultCube working in my ubuntu
[16:23] <Lego_Dan> yea.. im running compiz on my crappy intel card.. and can't figure out how to make all the sides visible with the transparent top/bottom like they do in the youtube videos.... all i get when i disable the caps is 2 sides visible which looks horrid
[16:24] <theD3viL11> i need help with my intel 855 tv-out! It wont work, i tried everything i can!
[16:24] <virus_> can anyone help me to reduce a little delay when i tapping in the touchpad ????
[16:24] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: witch intel card do you using?
[16:25] <Lego_Dan> um... whats the fastest way to check on bsd? also when i upgrade xorg to 7.4 it refuses to upgrade the xorg driver to 7.4 and the intel/ati drivers...
[16:26] <theD3viL11> lspci |grep VGA
[16:26] <Lego_Dan> if that was for me.. that didn't work
[16:26] <usas101> Beware of the downadup virus!
[16:27] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Best of luck. I'm off to lunch.
[16:27] <usas101> it infected my brothers computer!
[16:27] <Lego_Dan> ok, thanks
[16:27] <ZarroBoogs> usas101: This isn't ##windows
[16:28] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: then i dont know :) i cant get my intel card working tv out :S
[16:28] <Lego_Dan> lol, i can't get my radeon card TV-out working :P
[16:28] <Ubersoldat> lol that was the best comment today
[16:28] <Ubersoldat> "Beware of the downadup virus!"
[16:28] <Lego_Dan> when its enabled :P but then compiz doesn't work so its like im always between a rock and a hard place
[16:28] <hybr1der> how do i share a folder over smb so that u need to login to access the folder?
[16:28] <Lavandergirl> whats a virus?
[16:29] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: fglx drivers dont work? When i had radeon 9600pro worked..
[16:29] <usas101> a thing that distroys your computer
[16:29] <Ubersoldat> hybr1der: use ssh, you'll be done faster
[16:29] <usas101> that is what a virus is.
[16:29] <usas101> hi cuca85!
[16:29] <theD3viL11> hybr1der: you have your configurations in /etc/samba/samba.cfg
[16:29] <Lego_Dan> yea I can't get any 3d with the radeon card... or tv-out.. 2d works fine
[16:29] <Ubersoldat> or someone who can't type properly
[16:29] <hybr1der> okay thx
[16:29] <Lavandergirl> usas101: I was being sarcastic
[16:29] <theD3viL11> hybr1der: /etc/samba/smb.cfg
[16:30] <margaret> I have version of rosetta stone that runs from the disc in the disc drive only not hd install necessary, can I run this in ubuntu
[16:30] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: thats weird. take a look on ubuntuforums.org ..you'll find an answer. There is alot of topics of ati cards problems.
[16:31] <LargePrime> Is there a way to set a reminder alarm so my computer could remind me of an appointment?  or a recommended task type application?
[16:31] <Lego_Dan> opps thought you knew, sorry, im talking on bsd.. im downloading kubuntu as we speak
[16:31] <Ubersoldat> LargePrime: you can use, I don't know... cron?!?
[16:32] <LargePrime> i cant.  but i could learn
[16:32] <Lego_Dan> hoping for much nicer video and openpanel.. yeah!!
[16:32] <theD3viL11> LargePrime: i know that KDE has one kind of a program for this..dont know how it is in gnome about that..
[16:32] <Ubersoldat> LargePrime: ok, noob then... with cron you can schedule anything
[16:32] <Jimbo__> I'm not all that experienced with linux yet.. I downloaded a .tar and extracted it.  It told me to run ./configure and then make and then make install.  I extracted the tar into my home folder.  Is that okay or should I extract it somewhere else?
[16:32] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: oh.. :) in kubuntu will work ;)
[16:32] <macman_> i took a 71m file and did .bz2 71msorry to be annoying ..  i have a 177gig folder .. if i rar it and split the rar files and then bzip2 it or lzma it will it compress further ?
[16:33] <LargePrime> Ubersoldat: can i make appointments and notes for them?
[16:33] <Ubersoldat> Jimbo__: that's ok... but I wouldn't be messing with a compiler if you're a noob
[16:33] <Lego_Dan> thats what im hoping :) im sure the radeon 2400 HD will severly out proform the intel card..
[16:33] <meinte> Jimbo__, don't forget to "sudo make install"
[16:33] <meinte> instead of just make install
[16:33] <macman_> if i have a 177gig folder .. if i rar it and split the rar files and then bzip2 it or lzma it will it compress further ?
[16:33] <Lego_Dan> do i have to sudo in ubuntu or is su the same still?
[16:33] <grawity> Jimbo__: tar should have created a new directory in your homedir. For example, if you had test-1.2.tar.gz, the folder would be named test-1.2/ -- so use 'cd' to go into that dir, and then run the ./configure command.
[16:33] <grawity> Lego_Dan: sudo.
[16:33] <Lego_Dan> ah
[16:34] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: sudo
[16:34] <Lego_Dan> ls, cp, mkdir, rm -r,  all the same ?
[16:34] <Lego_Dan> thanks
[16:34] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: you don't HAVE to, but that's the recommended way
[16:34] <heyong> nihao
[16:34] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: yes, the same..
[16:34] <Lego_Dan> cool. so its only a few commands that change?
[16:34] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: when you work with system files you need to attached sudo.
[16:34] <Ubersoldat> LargePrime: what?
[16:35] <heyong>  what
[16:35] <henryrhodes> is there a way  to use the dvd for the eeepc to reload windows while in linux
[16:35] <Lego_Dan> what do you mean? i usually just open a konsole, su, and do whatever i want....
[16:35] <LargePrime> Ubersoldat: i think evoluition is more what i need
[16:35] <Ubersoldat> LargePrime: yes
[16:35] <heyong> how can i use  ubuntu
[16:35] <meinte> Lego_Dan, root is disabled by default
[16:35] <mar77i> hi, I'm having severe problems with an acer aspire 1200 laptop, for which the livecd does not seem to work. even with safe-graphics-mode it doesn't seem to find an appropriate driver (a partial ubuntu logo blinks by in about half a frame)...
[16:35] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... or something like that
[16:35] <meinte> in ubuntu
[16:35] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: you can get a root shell session with 'sudo -i'
[16:36] <Ubersoldat> anyway, if you wan't the sytem to just nudge you about something you can use cron with xmessage... it's very simple
[16:36] <Lego_Dan> ah so you can just su, and say in it. you have to sudo -i
[16:36] <henryrhodes> i need to make the dvd image boot from from sd card
[16:36] <Picassotamus> heyong: You may want to be a bit more specific
[16:36] <Otanacht> whats a good text editor for writing up code?
[16:36] <meinte> yes
[16:36] <Otanacht> please
[16:36] <henryrhodes> i am working on linux now
[16:36] <Ropechoborra> Otanacht, i guess Vi
[16:36] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: well, ubuntu doesn't have the root account enabled by default. you'd have to enable it to use su. sudo works just as well
[16:37] <meinte> Otanacht, gedit/vim
[16:37] <theD3viL11> henryrhodes: Vim
[16:37] <prince_jammys> !rootsudo | Lego_Dan
[16:37] <Ropechoborra> Vim =X
[16:37] <ZarroBoogs> !best | Otanacht
[16:37] <henryrhodes> thanks
[16:37] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: there's a brief comparison of sudo and su in that link, i think.
[16:37] <Lego_Dan> ok thanks, im also assuming vim is the text editor, like ee in bsd.
[16:37] <FoolsRun> Hi, can someone point me to an explanation for the removal of the update notifier in Jaunty?
[16:37] <mar77i> okay, here are some key combinations I have tried: c-m-f1, c-m-backspace, c-m-f2... NO RESPONSE. I'm quite stuck on this now.
[16:37] <FoolsRun> Just so I can understand it better
[16:37] <Ubersoldat> Otacon22: as I told someone before, today is April's Fool, not "Trollers Day"
[16:37] <ZarroBoogs> FoolsRun: Jaunty support in #ubuntu+1 please.
[16:37] <thom__> how can I make sure that my gtk is gtk 2.0???
[16:38] <FoolsRun> ZarroBoogs: Sorry, I even knew that :)
[16:38] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: nano and vim come installed. of course you can install whatever others you want
[16:38] <Lego_Dan> cool. that includes ee
[16:38] <prince_jammys> (and ed)
[16:38] <prince_jammys> if you're a masochist
[16:38] <meinte> Otanacht, if you don't know how to use Vim you first need to find out, look it up in google i'd say
[16:38] <theD3viL11> anyone have intel graphic card?
[16:38] <Lego_Dan> me :P
[16:38] <Lego_Dan> masochist ?? because i want to use ee.. its simple and works :P
[16:39] <thom__> anyone, how can I make sure that my gtk is gtk 2.0???
[16:39] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: i don't know ee, i was talking about ed
[16:39] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: hehe, you dont have ubuntu installed
[16:39] <Lego_Dan> pkg_info|grep gtk ??
[16:39] <mar77i> anyone?
[16:40] <mar77i> is there a way to boot to command line with an intrepid livecd?
[16:40] <ottertoast> mar77i, what was your question
[16:40] <ottertoast> mar77i, nevermind
[16:40] <Lego_Dan> did that work for ya thom_ ?
[16:40] <Lego_Dan> i was guessing
pkg_info: command not found
[16:40] <Lego_Dan> hehe ok its a bsd but i was trying to help :P
[16:40] <mar77i> I'm having severe problems with an acer aspire 1200 laptop, for which the livecd does not seem to work. even with safe-graphics-mode it doesn't seem to find an appropriate driver (a partial ubuntu logo blinks by in about half a frame)... ctrl-alt-backspace nor ctrl-alt-f1 aren't working...
[16:40] <prince_jammys> mar77i: good question. you can't get to a console the usual way?
[16:41] <prince_jammys> ah, ok.
[16:41] <mar77i> no.
[16:41] <prince_jammys> that sucks
[16:41] <Jimbo__> I'm not sure if this is really an ubuntu question.. but I just installed gearmand and when I'm trying to start it I get this error: gearmand: error while loading shared libraries: libgearman.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory       Anybody know if something is weird with ubuntu?
[16:41] <mar77i> it does, big time.
[16:41] <hanthana|> how to disable desktop effects in kubuntu, no way to use GUI, is there any way to disable it in cli?
 I'm using Ubuntu
 I'm using Ubuntu 8.10
[16:42] <Lego_Dan> yea i know ... .but i thought i would try.. :P im getting ready to install ubuntu, and need to figure out which commands will transfer over .. sorry
[16:42] <hanthana|> not geeting any desktop icons, just blank screen
[16:42] <Lego_Dan> and i thought it might be lucky if it worked
[16:42] <prince_jammys> hehe
[16:42] <ZarroBoogs> thom__: If you're running gnome then you have at least gtk2 installed.
[16:43] <Blackshark> hi. i've got a problem with booting my server machine after upgrading the ram from 2gigs to 4 gigs. the error i am getting is something like "softreset failed (1st FIS failed)
[16:43] <Blackshark> when i switch back to 2gigs the system is booting successfully
[16:44] <Lavandergirl> Blackshark: 32bit OS?
[16:44] <LjL> Blackshark: sounds like bad RAM, have you used memtest?
[16:44] <thom__> ZarroBoogs : OK thanks
[16:44] <Lego_Dan> will a i386 boot with 4 gb
[16:44] <mar77i> I'm trying to boot to rl 4 or so... looking at the grub option on auntie google
[16:44] <LjL> Lego_Dan: yes, it just won't see all of them
[16:44] <Kurlon> What is the proper chan to ask questions in reguards to Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope?  (Or is this the right place?)
[16:44] <Blackshark> 64 bit ubuntu 8.04
[16:44] <papu> Hello everybody, i'm total newbie, does your help also includes Xubuntu
[16:44] <LjL> !jaunty > Kurlon    (Kurlon, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:44] <Lego_Dan> ah. ok
[16:44] <hanthana|> which file i should edit to disable desktop effects?
[16:44] <genii> Kurlon: #ubuntu+1
[16:44] <LjL> papu: yes, although there's also a specific #xubuntu channel you can use
[16:44] <Lavandergirl> have you run memtest? might be a bad module
[16:44] <Blackshark> LjL: i am 100% sure about the ram working correctly
[16:45] <LjL> Blackshark: how do you know that?
[16:45] <digifor> if mkfs.ext2 freezes while writing inode tables 267/1193...does that mean hd failure?
[16:45] <henryrhodes> I have thought of vim
[16:45] <Kurlon> LjL/genii: Thanks!
[16:45] <Blackshark> LjL: because i removed it from my windows server
[16:45] <rackerhacker> anyone pretty familiar with LVM that could take a look at a wild error on Ubuntu 7.10?
[16:45] <Lego_Dan> i dunno man.. i had some ram recently that seemed to run stable but my windows system blue screen periodically.. memtest failed it 100 000 in under 2mins
[16:45] <LjL> Blackshark: well, it might not have been seated well, or may have got damaged during the move
[16:46] <LjL> Blackshark: although the error you mention should be SATA-related i think (but then bad RAM might cause any sort of error)
[16:46] <digifor> disregard
[16:46] <mar77i> strange though, I had a xorg working before with some arch-like linux...
[16:46] <papu> I want to install Tibia player for my friend (don't even ask :) ) and on my laptop it doesn't even start. No debug info, just nothing. On Ubuntu it's the same
[16:46] <Lego_Dan> i agree with LjL after the catastrophy i had with my ram
[16:47] <Blackshark> LjL: okay i'll do a memtest on the ram and get back to you when i find something
[16:47] <thom__> Umm how to solve USB-Flash disk that 'read-only system'??
[16:47] <LjL> Blackshark: i think it's a good idea. you don't need to run a very long memtest anyway, just do a quick check, 5 minutes or so
[16:47] <LjL> thom__: what filesystem is there on it?
[16:48] <thom__> Fat32
[16:48] <thom__> LjL : Fat32
[16:48] <LjL> thom__: did you mount it manually?
[16:48] <thom__> LjL : automatic by my machine
[16:48] <LjL> thom__: where is it mounted? (should be /media/disk or somesuch)
[16:49] <thom__> LjL : but it solved if I got Windos and do attrib on it
[16:49] <LjL> hm?
[16:49] <hanthana|> LjL: PING
[16:49] <Lego_Dan> ok all, well thanks for the info, I'll be back after i muck the kubuntu install :P
[16:49] <thom__> LjL " yeah in /media/
[16:50] <LjL> hanthana|: PONG
[16:50] <LjL> thom__: /media/what? do "ls -ld" on it and check the permissions
[16:50] <hanthana|> LjL: is there any way to disable desktop effects by editing a text file ? i mean if we can not access GUI
[16:50] <thom__> LjL : for information, It usually coz the Flash-disk was from Windows with Virus influenced
[16:50] <LjL> hanthana|: i have no idea
[16:51] <wever> Is there a reason for xorg to have to separate processes?
[16:51] <hanthana|> LjL: one of my friend got blank screen after he enabled desktop effects
[16:51] <lianimator> hanthana|: if you cannot access GUI? then how will you see the effects anyway?
[16:51] <hanthana|> no luck after restart
[16:51] <archman> LjL, thank you for "opening my dumb eyes". I "sweeped" everything, and now it's all goood! thanks! :)
[16:51] <archman> LjL, i can't even hear a fan now :)
[16:52] <vigo> How do I start a pkg automatically at boot, it requires /sudo or /su.
[16:52] <arkanabar> can anyone suggest a lightweight, graphical POP3 email client?
[16:52] <hanthana|> lianimator: after enabling effects he can loging but no icons etc
[16:52] <LjL> vigo: "start a pkg"?
[16:52] <lakeoftea> thunderbird ;)
[16:52] <Ubersoldat> arkanabar: evolution
[16:52] <regeya> THUNDERBIRD, lightweight...
[16:52] <regeya> o_O
[16:52] <lakeoftea> outlook
[16:52] <regeya> sylpheed
[16:53] <lakeoftea> aids
[16:53] <vigo> LjL: the graphical firewall doohicky. I want it to start at boot, also maybe some mail fetch things.
[16:53] <the10nitro> I don't suppose there is an option to do like "wget -N address", but only check the timestamp, not size?
[16:53] <papu> Can anyone help a total newbie on priv?
[16:53] <LjL> vigo: you want to start a *graphical* app at boot? that doesn't seem like a good idea. which firewall is that anyway?
[16:54] <Mean_Admin> so here I am, trying smbumount and getting "Device busy" answer
[16:54] <vigo> LjL: Firestarter
[16:54] <regeya> if it's firestarter, it uses an init script; the gui app is just a frontend
[16:54] <vigo> Thank you
[16:54] <LjL> vigo: what regeya said. i can't see a valid reason to start the GUI of it on boot.
[16:55] <Mean_Admin> so then, what's up, how am I supposed to unmount a samba share ?
[16:55] <vigo> I have to ask some questions that may help me and help others.
[16:56] <tuxtox> Hi!  I install 8.1 on a partition that was factory made.  The other partition has windows vista.  I cannot see the windows partition in ubuntu, and I cannot see the ubuntu partition in windows.  How do I fix that?
[16:56] <sachael> does anyone remember the terminal command which gives info about a window you click on?
[16:56] <the10nitro> Is there a way to get a file only if the timestamp is newer than the local copy?  "wget -N" gets the file if they are different in size.  I don't want it to check size.
[16:56] <LjL> sachael: xwininfo
[16:56] <hbekel> sachael: xprop, xwininfo
[16:56] <arkanabar> tuxtox:  for vista, download & install ext2IFS
[16:56] <sachael> LjL, hbekel: thanks, these were the ones
[16:57] <tuxtox> arkanabar download that in ubuntu?  using the syn. pac. man.?
[16:57] <Lego_Dan> ok whats a LAMP server? do I not just install each separately  (apache, php, mysql, openpanel, etc)
[16:57] <Pupuser402-1> !lamp
[16:58] <papu> I want to install Tibia player for my friend (don't even ask :) ) and on my laptop it doesn't even start. No debug info, just nothing. On Ubuntu it's the same. What may be the problem?
[16:58] <Lego_Dan> ok so i dont' have to but its a way to speed up the process, basically
[16:58] <Lego_Dan> like a all in one package
[16:59] <sachael> omg, is there a way to turn the awful pink skin of ubuntuforums? it is really embarassing >:(
[16:59] <the10nitro> Lego_Dan: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[17:00] <Lenin> Hello anyone there?
[17:00] <Lego_Dan> oh cool...
[17:00] <Lego_Dan> thanks
[17:00] <the10nitro> no prob
[17:01] <qimo> hello,everybody
[17:01] <Ubersoldat> why everyone uses apt instead of aptitude?
[17:01] <Lego_Dan> and after that just add the mail server stuff/ ftp and openpanel and done ?
[17:01] <grawity> Ubersoldat: probably because it works better for "everyone"
[17:02] <qimo> ???no one chat with me?
[17:02] <Lego_Dan> I will chat with you qimo
[17:02]  * grawity greets qimo.
[17:02] <Lego_Dan> whats up :P
[17:02] <the10nitro> yeah, the install process will ask you to set up a MySQL password
[17:02] <arkanabar> tuxtox:  no.  ext2IFS lets Windows (2K, Vista, XP, and even Me) read linux file systems.  google, download, and install it in vista.
[17:02] <arkanabar> tuxtox:  to see vista partition in Ubuntu, you have to mount the partition, which usually requires a password.
[17:03] <Droopsta915> is there such a thing as a automotive chat room around here?
[17:03] <Ubersoldat> grawity: I haven't had any problem with aptitude, that's why I ask
[17:03] <Lego_Dan> ... now who's not talking :P
[17:03] <grawity> Ubersoldat: I haven't had any problem with apt either.
[17:03] <sauce> can anyone tell me where the drivers folder is located?
[17:03] <tavasti> how I use update-python-modules when I have installed new theme for moinmoin?
[17:03] <Lego_Dan>  :( i say hi to the guy and he leave :P
[17:04] <scunizi> sauce: what are you trying to install?
[17:04] <Lego_Dan> am i that repulsive :P
[17:04]  * Lego_Dan thinks i shouldn't have asked that
[17:04] <sauce> im just trying to find my bc43 driver to back it up
[17:04] <tuxtox> arkanabar ok i just downloaded it.  I will reboot and install and ill come back and report. thanks
[17:04] <scunizi> !ot | Lego_Dan
[17:05] <the10nitro> wget -N checks timestamps and filesize, to see if they have changed.  What if I only want to check timestamps
[17:05] <scunizi> sauce: no need if you installed from the ubuntu repos .. like from synaptic or aptitude or apt-get.. let their servers hold it for you
[17:05] <vigo> If I were to buy a book to help me relearn this stuff, UNIX or Debian or (some other)?
[17:05] <sauce> how do i check that?
[17:06] <lianimator> what's more suitable for downloading large files (which usually stop halfway in firefox and needs to be downloaded from the beginning)? aria or gwget
[17:06] <midkniht> arkanabar, is that like arkansas?
[17:06] <arin> HDLJKHD'
[17:06] <the10nitro> It's not about partial downloads, it's about compressed files.
[17:06] <arthurL> lianimator: Torrents
[17:07] <scunizi> vigo: start with http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html and then check www.scribd.com for other ubuntu/linux pdf that are downloadable or viewable.. for real paper I enjoyed "Beginning Ubuntu Linux by Thomas
[17:07] <lianimator> arthurL: that wasn't my question though. I'm trying to download WoP..
[17:07] <the10nitro> lianimator: wget handles that pretty well
[17:07] <hybr1der> i dont really get this with samba, am i supposed to be able to use ubuntus accounts, so that a windows machine wants to access ubuntu it uses ubuntus accounts to login?
[17:08] <sauce> so i found my driver in synaptics manager
[17:09] <sauce> does it stay on the server?
[17:09] <scunizi> sauce: then you got it from the ubuntu repositories.. no need to back up the driver.. you'd have to do it with the .deb file anyway not the raw driver files that are installed.
[17:09] <lianimator> the10nitro: thanks. man wget for me
[17:09] <LargePrime> is their a recommended PDF editor?
[17:09] <sauce> so when i do a reinstall all i have to do is open the synaptic manager and reinstall fwcutter?
[17:09] <ZarroBoogs> hybr1der: Yes.
[17:09] <vigo> scunizi: Thank you.
[17:10] <scunizi> LargePrime: the one I've finally gotten to work well for me is pdfedit.  It's in the repos.. add and delete pages, annotate etc..
[17:10] <scunizi> vigo: np
[17:10] <the10nitro> question: wget -N checks timestamps and filesize, to see if they have changed.  What if I only want to check timestamps?
[17:10] <clearscreen> !repeat | the10nitro
[17:10] <LargePrime> scunizi: thanks.  where is the repos?
[17:10] <catox> hello everyone,,I'm coming....
[17:11] <ZarroBoogs> ZarroBoogs: Er. I think at least. I don't have access to a linux computer at the moment to check.
[17:11] <Geometry> hello, anyone ever used byzanz gif creator ?
[17:11] <arkanabar> LargePrime:  access the repos with either apt (command line) or synaptic (GUI) package manager.
[17:11] <LargePrime> arkanabar: thanks
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[17:12] <arussel1> I have a set of schema, how can I add them to a ldap ?
[17:12] <scunizi> LargePrime: if you look in the file called /etc/apt/sources.list or in synaptic you'll see the references for them.. in synaptic you'll also be able to change the servers to find a faster one for updates, program installs etc.
[17:12] <clearscreen> the10nitro: if bandwidth isn't a problem, a simple bash script should suffice.. if it is.. then I dont have a clue, sorry ;)
[17:12] <arussel1> I tried to just add them to /etc/ldap/schema but I still can't see them with ApacheDirectory.
[17:12] <LargePrime> scunizi: thanks again
[17:13] <sauce> scunizi: thanks man! hopefully my reinstall will run smooth
[17:13] <scunizi> LargePrime: takes a while to wrap your head around all the different ways of doing things in linux.. fun though
[17:13] <scunizi> sauce: why are you reinstalling?
[17:13] <LargePrime> scunizi: agreeded.  and fun.  So i am in synaptic.  how do i find pdfedit?
[17:14] <catox> how use to ubuntu ,....i dont know..
[17:14] <Blackshark> LjL: i did a quick memtest scan but no errors were found. is there a possibility the grub isn't accepting the 4gig?
[17:14] <scunizi> LargePrime: click the search button and type pdfedit
[17:14] <UUB1> I am trying to run a .sh file and wine keeps trying to run it automatically, so I go to terminal then type sh <file> and i get sh: Can't open.  How do i run it?
[17:14] <clearscreen> UUB1: chmod +x file.sh && sh file.sh
[17:14] <sauce> scunizi: this was just a trial run i didnt allocate a large enough partition of my dual boot for my liking
[17:14] <LargePrime> funny i just saw that.  noobish
[17:14] <scunizi> LargePrime: or if you're in Intrepid 8.04 there's also a quick search box.
[17:14] <Blackshark> LjL: when i put only 3gigs into the machine it still is working
[17:14] <Nithrin> Which is better? Guarddog or Firestarter?
[17:15] <clearscreen> !better
[17:15] <ZarroBoogs> !tutorial | catox
[17:15] <scunizi> sauce: so try expanding the partitions with .... ta da.. a live cd :)
[17:15] <LargePrime> scunizi: i am 8.04 .  a who what box?
[17:15] <scunizi> LargePrime: you won't have a quick search box in 8.04.. just click the search button.. that'll work.
[17:15] <LargePrime> oh i am hardy and scu said intreped
[17:16] <sauce> scunizi: i would try but i messed up this installation trying to back up my setting i ran the memory down to 0 and invoked some type of safe mode
[17:16] <Geometry> hello, anyone ever used byzanz animated gif creator ? or can tell me where to find the 'window manager'
[17:16] <makario> How can I view an image fullscreen through the terminal?
[17:16] <JediMaster> hey guys, does anyone know anyting about link aggregation?
[17:16] <yow|x2> Geometry - its a gnome applet the last i checked
[17:16] <evilbug> would flash (sites, videos, etc.) lag on an eee pc?
[17:16] <fosco__> makario, try zgv, not sure if it is in repos
[17:17] <arkanabar> Geometry:  Window manager is selected by display manager, part of the graphical login screen.
[17:17] <Geometry> ok how do i open it or w/e need to see what class/name it gives to my windows
[17:18] <Mba7eth> hi guys ... i lost my windows password... can i reset it from ubuntu ?
[17:18] <Geometry> not likely, there are ways
[17:18] <Geometry> google a bit
[17:18] <arkanabar> geometry:  are you trying to find out the window borders theme name?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Mba7eth: theres a recovery toll on the ultimate boot cd, that can be used to blank the password off
[17:19] <LargePrime> how can i check if my wireless is working while connected wired?
[17:19] <Mba7eth> ActionParsnip What is the ultimate boot cd ?
[17:19] <Geometry> arkanabar, i'm trying to find out what my linux calls my windows, cuz this prog needz the exact name
[17:19] <sauce> largeprime: if your wireless card is turned on it will still detect networks when wired
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Mba7eth: www.ultimatebootcd.com
[17:19] <Geometry> LargePrime, try iwconfig or ifconfig
[17:19] <LargePrime> Mba7eth reboot in safe mode and logon as administrator
[17:20] <Geometry> it should show your wireless card
[17:20] <Mba7eth> LargePrime I lost it :(
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Mba7eth: if you log on as administrator you can reset any local password, if you have lost your admin password you need the UBCD
[17:20] <mib_6r44sw82> Anyone know why my desktop top and bottom bars have disappeared (ubuntu 8.10) despite multiple restarts and how i might fix it?
[17:20] <LargePrime> Mba7eth reboot in safe mode and logon as administrator
[17:21] <LargePrime> safemode in windows admin password is null.  i dont think it can be set
[17:21] <LargePrime> big hole in win
[17:21] <jameswf> did you guys see microsoft is promoting Jaunty :http://www.live.com/
[17:21] <clearscreen> lol no
[17:22] <shadeslayer> LjL: you there?
[17:22] <clearscreen> this is really offtopic, but the admin password in safemode is just the password of administrator account.. it's set during setup
[17:22] <jameswf> that should be the 9.04 login screen
[17:23] <dugudule> #eurix
[17:23] <arkanabar> geometry : Ah, you're looking for the path or full directory name, yes?
[17:23] <LargePrime> clearscreen:  i dont think so.  i have hacked a few machines that way.
[17:24] <Geometry> --class=CLASS            Program class as used by the window manager
[17:24] <Geometry>   --name=NAME              Program name as used by the window manager
[17:24] <Geometry> i need that
[17:24] <clearscreen> LargePrime: you might not think so, but you'd be wrong :P
[17:24] <makario> How can I figure out which computer uses SSH access with nmap? I forgot the IP address. >.<
[17:25] <archman> How to access "Sessions" window from Run? what's the command?
[17:25] <prince_jammys> Geometry: xprop
[17:25] <clearscreen> makario: nmap -sS -sV -vv -P0 -p 22 <IP_ADDRESS>-255
[17:25] <clearscreen> makario: you'll need to run that as sudo btw
[17:25] <abhra> is there a way to connect nokia phones with ubuntu?
[17:25] <makario> Thanks, clearscreen
[17:26] <adda> hello
[17:26] <abhra> hello
[17:26]  * grawity greets adda.
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> makario: check for listening port 22 (default)
[17:26] <adda> how are u?
[17:26] <Samper> anyone from Ottawa Ontario hanging out in this channel?
[17:26] <Samper> (canada)
[17:27] <abhra> is there a way to connect nokia with ubuntu?
[17:27] <archman> abhra, we already heard you. want and maybe someone will answer...
[17:27] <archman> wait*
[17:27] <abhra> ok thanks
[17:28] <murlidhar> abhra: do u want to use internet from ur phone ?
[17:28] <Bluhawk> Why inthe world can I not get the flash player to work in Firefox.  I have dl'd and installed the newest flash player, but still can not get any streams to play from Stickam or Ustream...
[17:28] <adda> ......i`m bored:((
[17:28] <macman_> how can i mv or cp all files in one command to an external and leave out 1 folder ?
[17:29] <archman> adda, ok, then tell me how to run "sessions" window via alt+f2 ;) :D
[17:29] <kora-chan> hi, i wanted to make my ntfs harddrive mount automatically with write privileges for my user, so i added " /dev/sdb1       /media/pladde   fuse    user    0       0" to my fstab. when i plug it in it says my user has no permission to mount blick device. what do i need to to? any advice?
[17:29] <Geometry> Bluhawk, have you any java programs open ?
[17:29] <Mean_Admin> right, so I have this /bin/sh scrip that does stuff and when I call in a terminal with "./name of script" it works just fine. However, when I  create a Launcher, it reports    Failed to execute child process "./home/user/.hiddenfolder/scriptname" (No such file or directory
[17:29] <abhra> murli no .i just want to use pc suite functions
[17:29] <vigo> Bluhawk: SWF or gnash or the others?
[17:29] <LargePrime> How do i view wireless networks while still connected wired
[17:30] <mbeierl> jameswf: I don't see anything at live.com which indicates jaunty... what did you mean?
[17:30] <arkanabar>   http://www.live.com/ for jackalope info.  But no ubuntu info UNLESS you search News.....
[17:30] <adda> archman......i`m using linux not windows
[17:30] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: don't place a . on the start of that
[17:30] <archman> adda, lol x 1000
[17:30] <Ubersoldat> just "/home/user/.hiddenfolder/scriptname"
[17:30] <freelanceweb> I am running openSSH version 4.6p1 but i want to upgrade to 4.8 or above. Using apt-get only patches
[17:30] <mbeierl> Samper: Ottawa here... Kanata actually
[17:30] <adda> + i am girl.....
[17:30] <Bluhawk> Geo, vigo,  No java I know of, and SWF I do belive...
[17:30] <archman> adda, what made you think I thought you were using windows? :D
[17:31] <murlidhar> abhra: u mean u want to transfer files or backup contacts ...?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> !info openssh-server
[17:31] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: with no .  the script just doesn't do anything :(
[17:31] <abhra> yes murli
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> freelanceweb: 5.1p1 is in the repo
[17:31] <LargePrime> Can i view wireless networks while still connected wired?
[17:31] <jameswf> mbeierl, its a jackalope
[17:31] <vigo> Bluhawk: You may need to get the Java stuff to make that work
[17:31] <adda> archman...i`m from roumania.....i don`t understand very well...
[17:31] <archman> LargePrime, sure, with nm applet
[17:32] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: pastebin the script
[17:32] <murlidhar> abhra: to transfer files u can use ur phone as pen drive.. which u should be having that feature in ur phone ...
[17:32] <LargePrime> archman: what is a nm applet?
[17:32] <archman> LargePrime, or wifi-radar
[17:32] <archman> LargePrime, network manager ;)
[17:32] <mbeierl> arkanabar, jameswf: only on live.com if you change the location to United States
[17:32] <freelanceweb> ActionParsnip : I have 5.1 on my 8.10 box but how do I get it on my 7.10 box?
[17:32] <murlidhar> abhra: to backup contacts u need an application which i don't remember the name...just wait let me search for it
[17:32] <Bluhawk> viggo...OOOhhhh ok, will try that.  Ya, you would need the java I do belive...Duuuuu
[17:33] <Samper> mbeierl: I am starting up a community group here in Ottawa called Computers For Communities (http://computersforcommunities.ca). The recipe is simple, take cats off computers from those throwing them out, slap on Ubuntu and traing people on how to use it. then give the computers away to those facing barriers to adopting technology. Perhaps you might know some people in the local Linux community that may be interested. perhaps yourself.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> !info openssh-server gutsy
[17:33] <adda> ......i`m baka...:(
[17:33] <mbeierl> jameswf: I'm in Canada, and there's no image in the background until I changed the locale
[17:33] <archman> LargePrime, you can actually view wireless networks by issuing "iwlist scan"
[17:33] <juaco> hello
[17:33] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: there you go : http://pastebin.com/m38d04670
[17:33] <jameswf> mbeierl, ahh stupid redmond
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> freelanceweb: you could compile the source, or find a PPA with the new version for gutsy
[17:33] <archman> adda: no place to chat, so...goto ubuntu chat channel for this..
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> !gutsy
[17:33] <abhra> yeah i know that.but i want to use the pc suite function not the mass mode.its not good enough.thanks for searching though
[17:34] <LargePrime> archman: ok so my wless has the wrong driver i think
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> freelanceweb: gutsy (i think is EOL soon)
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> !eol
[17:34] <murlidhar> abhra: install these two applications gammu and gmobilemedia
[17:34] <archman> LargePrime: Your wlan card doesn't work?
[17:34] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: don't do sudo in a script, take out all the sudo's and execute the script with sudo
[17:34] <maven> if i wanted to install the driver for my sound card, where would i start?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> freelanceweb: yep, end of this month
[17:34] <mbeierl> Samper: I'm doing something similar for my kids
[17:34] <murlidhar> abhra: gmobilemedia can transfer files from ur phone and vice versa
[17:34] <LargePrime> archman: it is not scanning
[17:34] <danand> !flash | danand
[17:34] <mbeierl> Samper: I'm doing something similar for my kids's school.  (sorry ' and enter are too close)
[17:34] <adda> archman i`m going to F*** myself
[17:35] <maven> !sound
[17:35] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: how can I tell the lancuhy to execute with sudo ? like "sudo /path/to/script"?
[17:35] <adda> bye
[17:35] <LargePrime> archman: it is a broadcom 43XX and this is a known problem i think
[17:35] <Ubersoldat> yes
[17:35] <AntiNeko> Hey all! I've really messed up my audio settings - is there a way to reinstall everything to the default settings without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[17:35] <abhra> ok i'm searching
[17:35] <archman> LargePrime: cool, i got bcm4311, the cards work ;)
[17:35] <murlidhar> !gammu | abhra
[17:35] <murlidhar> !info gammu  | abhra
[17:35] <archman> !flame
[17:36] <murlidhar> !info gammu > abhra
[17:36] <juaco> i have a gateway to internet on my lan, and it is forwarding some ports to my machine with DNAT. If i have such gateway as my default route in my machine, do i have to also do SNAT --to thegateway for packets DNAT'ed to me?
[17:36] <vigo> AntiNeko: Yes, choose the install at bootup, or use the backups
[17:36] <murlidhar> !test
[17:36] <abhra> !gammu
[17:36] <archman> LargePrime: goto Hardware Drivers
[17:36] <LargePrime> archman: is it a new card or an older one?
[17:36] <AntiNeko> vigo: You mean like a restore?
[17:36] <murlidhar> abhra: its a gammu - Mobile phone management utility
[17:36] <AntiNeko> vigo: I know I've used X-server recovery one
[17:36] <AntiNeko> vigo: once*
[17:36] <archman> LargePrime: And choose b43 driver for your card. what distro you on btw.?
[17:36] <vigo> AntiNeko: Yes, there is a Restore thing in the list
[17:37] <murlidhar> abhra: u can manage ur contacts and other stuff from this application
[17:37] <AntiNeko> vigo: Awesome! Will check it out. Thanks!!
[17:37] <abhra> thanks
[17:37] <murlidhar> np
[17:37] <LargePrime> archman: 8.04 .  it wants to know if it should extrach firmware?
[17:37] <clearscreen> Bluhawk: dunno if you fixed it yet, just grab ubuntu-restricted-extras :)
[17:37] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: it's a win :)
[17:37] <archman> LargePrime: I think you don't, it was before that we needed to do it...
[17:38] <Lego_Dan> um when kubuntu is done installing and i reboot, will i have to kdm or something to boot to kde? or will it automatically do it?
[17:38] <archman> LargePrime: Why don't you check that? (Hardware Drivers)
[17:38] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: thanks you
[17:39] <clearscreen> Lego_Dan: it should boot KDE by default
[17:39] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: woudl you think/know if this would work similary on a mac ?
[17:39] <Bluhawk> Clearscreen thanks....willl try
[17:39] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: sure
[17:39] <excalibas> Hello, I can connect to the local network but cant connect to the internet on my eee (intrepid) no one seems to be able to help me. anny ideas. please
[17:39] <Mean_Admin> cool :)
[17:39] <Lego_Dan> is there a way to disable that?
[17:39] <arkanabar> !best | arkanabar
[17:39] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: just make sure ssh is on $PATH
[17:39] <Mckagan> holas
[17:39]  * Ubersoldat leaving
[17:40] <Lolz> Bonjour il y 'a quelqu'un ?
[17:40] <archman> LargePrime: I'm here for only 10mins more if you need help...
[17:40] <LargePrime> archman: i did.  it seems the proprietary drivers were not enabled.  i enabled them , it dlded a file, and asked to extract firmware.  i didnot check that box and continued, and then it went back to Hardware manager and still has no proprietary driver enabled
[17:41] <archman> LargePrime: Yes, check the extraction!
[17:41] <LargePrime> archman: sorry but how?
[17:41] <archman> LargePrime: It will do everything automatically, i think, i don't remember really...
[17:41] <archman> check the box
[17:41] <LargePrime> archman: ofcourse.  one sec
[17:42] <archman> cool
[17:42] <mrsteveman1> is the forum site down or is this a joke
[17:42] <Lego_Dan> is there a way to disable the auto boot of kde? to boot to a terminal instead?
[17:43] <nathan7> mrsteveman1: lol
[17:43] <nathan7> Lego_Dan: Sec.
[17:43] <Lego_Dan> ok
[17:43] <nathan7> Lego_Dan: sudo update-rc.d kdm remove
[17:43] <jatt> hi, I open a file with .tex extension using firefox. When I click on the URL a window titled "Opening gant.tex" is shown. When I choose Browse... in that window I get the message: "The application you chose ("(null)") could not be found".
[17:43] <LargePrime> arch restarting
[17:44] <jatt> How do I tell firefox to open gedit instead?
[17:44] <Lego_Dan> thanks
[17:44] <AntiNeko> vigo: Which one do I run? I don't see any sound-stuff under the Recovery Menu.
[17:44] <vigo> AntiNeko: Which version are you on?
[17:45] <AntiNeko> 8.10
[17:45] <AntiNeko> vigo: But I was kinda surpirsed to find a second kernel to run. There was kernel 1 and kernel 1 recovery, and then a second one with normal and recovery.
[17:46] <nathan7> AntiNeko: Is normal.
[17:46] <nathan7> AntiNeko: Old kernels are kept.
[17:46] <AntiNeko> nathan7: Ah, ok
[17:46] <arkanabar> jatt:  right click link, hopefully you will see "open with" in context menu.
[17:47] <LargePrime> bah
[17:47] <arkanabar> jatt:  if not, save file to desktop or home folder, start gedit, and browse for file.
[17:48] <AntiNeko> vigo: My audio settings are messed up. I uninstalled ALSA when installing OSS (I thought OSS would solve some stuff) and by doing that I also disabled PulseAudio. Now when I've restored ALSA and Pulse, everything is just a big pile of settings and nothing seems to work predicably. I just wanna restore the default sound settings and the devices in Sound Preferences
[17:48] <JediMaster> can anyone suggest a nice easy command line VPN program?
[17:48] <ctp> would you recommend jaunty as 32 or as 64 bit version on a amd64 desktop? i see no really use for 64-bit arch on desktop ;-)
[17:48] <lakeoftea> how can i make ubuntu brew my coffee in the morning?
[17:49] <fosco__> !coffee | lakeoftea
[17:49] <fosco__> :-)
[17:49] <little_unix> all! I have got a ethernet adapter USB rj45
[17:49] <dayo> lakeoftea: cron
[17:49] <little_unix> hotplug will detect?
[17:49] <little_unix> and
[17:49] <little_unix> work fine?
[17:49] <dayo> !cron | lakeoftea
[17:49] <vigo> AntiNeko: Ratso, I just passed that page, going back
[17:51] <Raylz> europe/berlin has gmt+2 right?
[17:51] <AntiNeko> +1 I believe
[17:52] <LargePrime> I am having a problem with the hardware drivers application.  i am trying to enable "Broadcom b43 wireless driver".  when i enable it gives a message "While this driver itself is free software, it relies on proprietary firmware which cannot be legally shipped with the operating system. Your hardware will not work without the firmware."  i click enable then nothing happens.  the first time i did this it downloaded a file and asked me if i wished to extr
[17:52] <Lint01> +2 since Sunday
[17:52] <vigo> AntiNeko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting<<that is one of the pages I found, it is pretty easy to follow
[17:53] <jmz> Anyone here running ubuntu on an i7 system ?
[17:54] <jmz> Guess not lol
[17:54] <AntiNeko> vigo: My sound was working well out of the box, I just couldn't change the default sound source. So a restore-thing would be nice. My apps didn't care what I put in Sound Preferences
[17:55] <AntiNeko> vigo: I'll check it out
[17:56] <vigo> AntiNeko: That one should resolve the error.
[17:56] <nvstp1> If you want to enable B43 wireless, you need to install the firmware for it
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[17:56] <LargePrime> nvstp thanks
[17:56] <DaveChannin> Newbie question: I added the kalarm application and it installed (and runs fine). TFM says it should appear in the Application menu under the appropriate category, but it doesn't. If I start it manually from terminal window all is well. Ideas on how to get it to appear in Apps menu?
[17:57] <nvstp1> First, you need to install a package with name begin with b43-xxxx
[17:58] <jercos> b43-fwcutter?
[17:58] <jercos> (only package i remember starting with b43 offhand)
[17:59] <jrib> jercos: have you checked System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[17:59] <little_unix> all! I have got a ethernet adapter USB rj45
[17:59] <little_unix> hotplug will detect?
[17:59] <little_unix> and work fine?
[17:59] <Lego_Dan> quit
[17:59] <Mean_Admin> so I want to make a script that (amongst other things) kills a ssh tunnel.. is there a /etc/init.d/ssh_client restart thing I can use ?
[17:59] <lantjie> hey guys
[17:59] <conficker_> hello world...!!
[18:00] <pablo__> hello, how do i do to mount an ext4 partition in an old system, cannot i ?
[18:00] <lantjie> hello
[18:00] <shadeslayer> :O
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin: theres /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[18:00] <dayo> !welcome | conficker_
[18:00] <jercos> jrib: eh? of course I have, but I'm somewhat unrelated. just popped in to deposit two cents
[18:00] <shadeslayer> conficker_: u cant spread here :P
[18:00] <abhra> how to convert .lit into .prc?
[18:00] <AntiNeko> vigo: Hmm! My USB headset is not in the ALSA supported card-section.
[18:00] <jrib> jercos: heh, same...
[18:01] <ghindo> conficker_: Nooooooo
[18:01] <Lego> ok.
[18:01] <jercos> lol
[18:01] <vigo> AntiNeko: Uhm, erm, forums? USB?
[18:01] <nvstp1> pablo__: I think you need to re-build the kernel to support ext4 filesystem
[18:01] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, How'd the install go?
[18:02] <Mean_Admin> ActionParsnip: that's for ssh daemon, nein ?
[18:02] <lantjie> pablo_: mount -t ntfs-g3 /dev/(your_drive_name) then mount it to a folder. its like this:mount -t ntfs-g3 /dev/sda1 /media/mountfolder
[18:02] <jercos> pablo__: if you don't want to muck around updating your kernel and just want to get at some data you could compile User Mode Linux from recent sources and mount the disk inside that.
[18:02] <little_unix> all! I have got a ethernet adapter USB rj45, this is work fine?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin: yeah
[18:02] <dougl> is it possible to have X gui running on my 8.04 for a user on my 8.10 box?
[18:03] <jercos> lantjie: ntfs-3g is related to ext4 how?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin: you could have a command to run: killall <something>
[18:03] <DSpair> dougl, Probably, but we'll need more details to be sure.
[18:03] <Mean_Admin> ActionParsnip: right
[18:03] <AntiNeko> vigo: This is too complicated for me. I've installed and uninstalled too much stuff in my quest to get the microphone on my USB headset to work.
[18:03] <salvatore_> ciao
[18:03] <AntiNeko> vigo: What about the restore stuff you were talking about?
[18:03] <dougl> DSpair, thanks - what is that called? ie what should I google for?
[18:04] <DSpair> dougl, Nothing, remote GUI is built into X Windows.
[18:04] <dougl> DSpair, hmm... thanks :)
[18:04] <DSpair> dougl, All you have to do is set your DISPLAY environment variable to the machine where you want the display to show up.
[18:05] <lantjie> jercos: because ext3 is related to ext4.
[18:05] <lantjie> jercos: i had this problem for manytimes
[18:06] <dougl> DSpair, thanks - googling DISPLAY environment
[18:06] <DSpair> dougl, What is it you're trying to accomplish?
[18:06] <janisozaur> i've downloaded firefox 3.5 from launchpad (fta), how can i make it my default browser?
[18:06] <jercos> lantjie: but... never mind.
[18:06] <lianimator> does anyone play liquidwars?
[18:06] <DSpair> janisozaur, Using Gnome?
[18:06] <pablo__> thanks nvstp1 but i think compiling ext4 generated problems on my system , jercos compile User Mode Linux from recent sources , there is something more easy ?
[18:07] <janisozaur> DSpair: yes
[18:07]  * jercos rolls his eyes
[18:07] <dougl> trying to have X display on ubuntu 8.04 box for user logged in on 8.10 box
[18:07] <jercos> I think I lost IQ points from idling here :(
[18:07] <DSpair> janisozaur, Go to "System->Preferences->Preferred Applications"
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> janisozaur: sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser
[18:07] <pablo__> !jercos iq
[18:07] <pablo__> 220
[18:07] <pablo__> O.O
[18:07] <DSpair> dougl, So you want the applications to run on the 8.10 box but you want the display on the 8.04 box?
[18:08] <dougl> DSpair, exactly
[18:08] <ghang> hi , i would like to know , where is pidgin plugin folder path
[18:08] <lantjie> pablo:The ext4 filesystem is backward compatible with ext3 and ext2, making it possible to mount ext3 and ext2 filesystems as ext4
[18:08] <Nasra> I have a question regarding firestarter package....do I really firewall installed in my computer or not and if so is not ...how do I remove it?
[18:08] <DSpair> OK, for the 8.04 box, open a terminal. SSH to the 8.10 box with "ssh -X -C <user>@<host>"
[18:08] <pablo__> [lantjie] but i want to use ext4 in ext3, not ext3 in ext4
[18:09] <DSpair> dougl, Then, once you have opened the SSH session, and graphical applications you start in the SSH terminal will be displayed on the 8.04 machine.
[18:09] <pablo__> i have to many gigas in ext4
[18:09] <AntiNeko> vigo: Found something here...
[18:09] <Nasra> what is command for remove a program?
[18:09] <Nasra> thanks
[18:09] <lantjie> ghang: it's in your home folder
[18:09] <DSpair> dougl, If you want to provide a complete desktop environment from the 8.10 box, you'll want to look into XDMCP
[18:09] <rkvirani> Quick question, what packages do I need for 32-bit compatibility?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Nasra: you have ip tables installed already, if you are behind a router its not hugely essential, depends how security scared you are
[18:09] <vigo> AntiNeko: On the forums?
[18:09] <rkvirani> I tried googling but nothing
[18:10] <grawity> Nasra: apt-get remove packagename
[18:10] <wenko> help! how do I get conficker off my Ubuntu box
[18:10] <Nasra> yes  I have a router
[18:10] <Nasra> behind it
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> rkvirani: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[18:10] <dougl> DSpair, VERY helpful = thanks very much...
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Nasra: you should be ok
[18:10] <lantjie> pablo_:ext4 can also be used with ext3 and ext2, such as the new block allocation algorithm.
[18:10] <ghang> lantjie  : i can't find it , i just wanna add a lib into the plugin folder
[18:10] <DSpair> dougl, No problem.
[18:10]  * dougl is googling XDMCP
[18:10] <Nasra> okay thanks alot ActionParsnip | grawity:
[18:10] <Nasra> thanks
[18:10] <lantjie> ghang:it's hidden
[18:10] <AntiNeko> vigo: I wrote in the forums about my probb a while back but no replies yet. I found something on that article you sent. I just gotta be patient here. "configuring default soundcards"
[18:11] <pablo__> [lantjie] ok that is what i want, but i cannot in a fresh 8.10 install
[18:11] <rkvirani> ActionParsnip: thanks bud!
[18:11] <ghang> lantjie:  there is no .pidgin , what is the folder name
[18:11] <janisozaur> DSpair, ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ghang: shoulddddddbe ~/.purpe
[18:11] <DSpair> janisozaur, No problem.
[18:11] <mrluap> does anyone know how to edit an existing route?
[18:11] <DSpair> mrluap, You cannot in Linux. You have to remove the old route and add the new one.
[18:12] <vigo> AntiNeko: Ah, yes, that seemed like the correct page for me to refer you to.
[18:12] <ghang> thanks , is .purple
[18:12] <Julian> who can i configure my bluetooth in ubuntu 8.10 x64?
[18:12] <lantjie> pablo_: ext4 can be mounted as an ext3 partition (using ext3 as the filesystem type when mounting)
[18:12] <shadymr66> hi allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[18:12] <DSpair> BRB
[18:12] <shadymr66> hi there
[18:13] <shadymr66> please any one help me
[18:13] <shadymr66> to adjust my wireless on ubuntu
[18:13] <lantjie> ghang: do this in your terminal: locate pidgin. and you will find it i promise
[18:13] <shadymr66> you you you
[18:14] <Julian> how can i configure my bluetooth in ubuntu 8.10 x64?
[18:14] <Ztripez> hi, i bought myself a usb-pen drive.. now i want to use it as a hardkey to my luks-partitions.. aka must have the pendrive in a usb port when i boot up for the drives to mount.. anyone know any good docs on how to do this?
[18:15] <lantjie> shadymr66: do iwconfig in your terminal and look what name your wireless card has and then do ifconfig name up
[18:17] <AntiNeko> vigo: It's opening a file in a Terminal which I can edit, like a text-file, but how do I save it?
[18:17] <lantjie> hey guys i need some advise. is java good to program with
[18:17] <lantjie> ?
[18:19] <recv-exec> helo
[18:19] <ghindo> !hello | recv-exec
[18:19] <Steven3k> hi, does someone know which programs are included in initrd image? i need to run a script in initrd and i'm wondering which ones I can use
[18:20] <debsan> lantjie, it depends on what you want to program. but yes, its good and easy.
[18:20] <nvstp1> busybox is in initrd
[18:20] <lantjie> debson:i want to make programs.
[18:21] <nvstp1> Steven3k, the commands you can use in initrd are supported by busybox
[18:21] <Steven3k> nvstp1, thanks. no other binaries are included by default?
[18:21] <rkvirani> Whats that command to bring up the ubuntu-server installer?
[18:22] <lantjie> hey the guy who is looking for initrd read this first.http://ww2.cs.fsu.edu/~rosentha/linux/<IP_ADDRESS>/docs/initrd.txt
[18:22] <genii> rkvirani: Something like: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[18:23] <rkvirani> genli, eah tasksel I think I will check it out
[18:23] <nvstp1> Steven3k, yes, they are linked to busybox
[18:23] <LargePrime> nvstp1: thanks my wireless card works now
[18:23] <Steven3k> nvstp1, ok :) thank you. I don't really need anything else, just wondering ^^
[18:23] <cemc> anybody here any experience with thermal zones and powersaved on a HP 8510p notebook ?
[18:24] <nvstp1> LargePrime, not at all
[18:24] <LargePrime> nvstp1: no.  it works completely LOLz
[18:24] <vigo> AntiNeko:Use nano or something like it
[18:25] <nvstp1> LargePrime: :)
[18:25] <scunizi> any scribus fans? I got a question. How do I line up the left edge of 3 identical vertically stacked shapes?
[18:25] <LargePrime> ok anyone have a list of "Must Have" addons to ubuntu.  (8.04 lts)
[18:26] <scunizi> LargePrime: irssi for IRC on the terminal or TTY for when the gui won't start and you need help
[18:26] <DSpair> LargePrime, There was a good article on WirksWithU.com this week about that exact topic.
[18:26] <DSpair> s/WirksWithU.com/WorksWithU.com/
[18:26] <AntiNeko> vigo: It's all messed up. It don't care what I change, it's still playing through the speakers and not the headset.
[18:27] <n3rd4i> how can i use LINK's as int WINDOWS XP shortcuts ?
[18:27] <DSpair> n3rd4i, You can't. Windows doesn't do soft links.
[18:27] <LargePrime> irssi is better than pidgin for irc?
[18:28] <n3rd4i> well i want to get the same thing as in WINODWS when i do LINK to as spec file
[18:28] <nvstp1> n3rd4i, you can use command "ln"
[18:28] <n3rd4i> with ABSOLUTE path
[18:28] <DSpair> n3rd4i, The closest Linux alternative in Linux is the ".desktop" files which are application/file launchers.
[18:28] <n3rd4i> what LN does?
[18:28] <scunizi> LargePrime: most anything is better then pidgin.. pidgin is a great IM client but not an IRC client.. irssi works great and for the gui xchat
[18:28] <AntiNeko> Is there any way to restore sound settings and packages to default?
[18:28] <jrib> n3rd4i: you want a symlink (ln -s TARGET NAME).  symlinks are better than window's shortcuts
[18:28] <grawity> jrib: not always.
[18:28] <LargePrime> DSpair:  WirksWithU DNE
[18:28]  * grawity wishes XP had symlinks
[18:28] <DSpair> s/WirksWithU.com/WorksWithU.com/
[18:29] <DSpair> LargePrime, I mistyped. It's WorksWithU.com
[18:29] <n3rd4i> well i want to put the LINK in a directory who is in ABSOLUTE PATH and just type the name wherever i am
[18:29] <LargePrime> is irssi in the repo?  (look at me using lingo and such)
[18:29] <n3rd4i> in the command line relative path
[18:29] <grawity> LargePrime: yes.
[18:29] <n3rd4i> its possbile that?
[18:29] <jrib> DSpair: yes, so create a symlink...
[18:29] <Nasra> stupid question : my web browser dissaperead.....how do bring it back?
[18:29] <scunizi> LargePrime: yep..
[18:29] <scunizi> LargePrime: so's xchat.. but don't get xchat-gnome.. yic
[18:30] <DSpair> LargePrime, You can always search the repo from aptitude by typing "aptitude search irssi" and it will show you matching items.
[18:30] <nvstp1> Just find it back ^^
[18:30] <LargePrime> ok away i go to get irssi and the stuf on workswithu
[18:30] <DSpair> scunizi, I concur... Xchat-gnome sux0rs.
[18:31] <vigo> AntiNeko: Test the headphones on another doohicky?
[18:31] <edward_> hi
[18:31] <DSpair> Hello edward_
[18:31] <jrib> s/DSpair/n3rd4i
[18:31] <LargePrime> anyone disagree with this list http://www.workswithu.com/2009/03/25/five-essential-ubuntu-modifications/
[18:31] <edward_> hi dspair
[18:31] <AntiNeko> vigo: Works with Win
[18:31] <edward_> im new here
[18:32] <DSpair> edward_, So are a lot of people. Welcome. Got a question?
[18:32] <AntiNeko> vigo: Worked with Rhythmbox and Totem but not any more. Now Rhythmbox won't find the gstreamer-plugins
[18:32] <nvstp1> Welcome!
[18:32] <edward_> not really
[18:32] <rickest> LargePrime: context matters, there are no stock answers for your questions
[18:32] <edward_> well
[18:32] <edward_> yes
[18:32] <vigo> AntiNeko: Ok, then it is a bug report that should be sent to launchpad. methinks.
[18:32] <DSpair> edward_, Shoot...
[18:33] <sl00> Hi. Where can I find this tool or a similar tool? http://www.deesaster.org/progxorg.php
[18:33] <edward_> my question is... if here we can speak about ubuntu system
[18:33] <edward_> if i have a question about something
[18:33] <LargePrime> rickest: i understand.  but asking open questions leads to learning dialog.  i , unlike many, do not desire stock answers.
[18:33] <sl00> I always have tourble with the videocards when I run Ubuntu and the "built-in" screen-resolution utility is not really that good since the display is to small to show the whole window :(
[18:33] <scunizi> edward_: technical assistance questions are welcome here..
[18:33] <nvstp> You can welcome to ask any question
[18:33] <edward_> like... y i become a error log or something like that
[18:33] <edward_> oohh ok
[18:34] <rickest> LargePrime: what should I have for dinner tonight?
[18:34] <vigo> AntiNeko: Do you have a backup disk from when it did work?
[18:34] <DSpair> sl00, There's a tool for that built-in to Ubuntu under Preferences in the "System" menu
[18:34] <LargePrime> rickest: what do you enjoy?
[18:34] <edward_> it´s grat to know... maybe i can have a lot of questions...
[18:34] <edward_> but there r too many errors on my system hehehe
[18:34] <sl00> DSpair: Which I just mentioned. I cannot use it because the window goes outside my screen!
[18:34] <DSpair> edward_, One at a time.
[18:34] <rickest> LargePrime: exactly.  what do you want to do with your machine?  kiosk, development, media player, file server, etc.  'context matters' covers all that
[18:34] <nvstp> Just one by one
[18:34] <duffer> sudo
[18:34] <DSpair> sl00, OH!!!
[18:35] <LargePrime> rickest:  see how we got to more learning?  dev and media
[18:35] <edward_> well...
[18:35] <edward_> hehehe... i introduce my self
[18:35] <DSpair> sl00, Try this. Open a run dialog by pressing "<ALT>+<F2>". In the run dialog try typing "xrandr --auto"
[18:35] <edward_> my english is not so great
[18:35] <edward_> i dont know english it all
[18:35] <DSpair> edward_, Practice makes perfect.
[18:35] <PerryArmstrong> is it advisable to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[18:35] <edward_> heheh
[18:35] <edward_> where r u from?
[18:36] <rickest> LargePrime: if you had started with that info you might already have some answers instead of this meaningless conversation explaining how to ask a worthwihle question
[18:36] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Depends on what type of system. For servers, probably not.
[18:36] <rickest> LargePrime: liver pate and asparagus spears, btw
[18:36] <Flannel> edward_: For general chat questions, we have #ubuntu-offtopic.  This is just for support topics.  Thanks.
[18:36] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, My advice is NO!
[18:36] <DSpair> edward_, Indiana, USA
[18:36] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; not a server.....
[18:36] <LargePrime> rickest:  i might not have know what my options were.  but i take your point.
[18:36] <edward_> ahh ok
[18:36] <edward_> great
[18:37] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; not for server
[18:37] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Then it's probably a good idea. 8.10 introduced a lot uf enhancements which make life much nicer.
[18:37] <LargePrime> rickest: on a diet?
[18:37] <sl00> DSpair: Okey? Nothing happened what I could see.
[18:37] <rickest> LargePrime: no, those are my favorites   :-)
[18:37] <DSpair> sl00, Hrrrmmmm . . . . Old monitor?
[18:37] <edward_> i have a question...
[18:37] <edward_> i have php, mysql
[18:37] <LargePrime> rickest:  why not have them then?
[18:37] <Nasra> Is there a quick way to recover  your web address ( URL ) on firefox <-----typing www.ubuntu.com
[18:37] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; i previously installed it and found many bugs and it couldn't get my screensaver right...so i guess they might have fixed tyhem
[18:37] <sl00> DSpair: No. not at all. None of my components are older than 1 year.
[18:37] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; i previously installed it and found many bugs and it couldn't get my screensaver right...so i guess they might have fixed them
[18:37] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, You can have a try, but there may be some problem
[18:37] <edward_> n a friend tell me that my kubuntu is not ok... cuz all that programs r running on tmp
[18:38] <jrib> Nasra: recover?  is ctrl-l what you want?
[18:38] <edward_> /tmp/
[18:38] <Nasra> perhaps setting up to default/...
[18:38] <Nasra> Jrib: thanks
[18:38] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; i previously installed it and found many bugs and it couldn't get my screensaver right...so i guess they might have fixed them
[18:38] <DSpair> sl00, xrandr should automatically configure your session to the optimal settings based on what it detects about your video card and monitor
[18:38] <rickest> LargePrime: I think I shall.  Now if I could only figure out what good it did to ask the room what I should eat tonight
[18:39] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, Many bugs with the 8.01 version?
[18:39] <sl00> DSpair: Thing is I have this same problem on ALL computers I have tried. I end up with a resolution at 720 x Something. One time I installed using Safe-mode then I atleast got 1024x768.
[18:39] <DSpair> edward_, You mean that they are storing session information in "/tmp"?
[18:39] <Mr_Molez> does anyone know how i would make kdm start after rc.local ?
[18:39] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; you mean they are still existing
[18:39] <LargePrime> rickest: sharing is caring?
[18:39] <rickest> LargePrime: for dev, you might like Eclipse.  to me, it's bloated but some like it, esp java dev I guess.  You already use vim or emacs?
[18:39] <sl00> DSpair: Yes but it seems it can never detect my videocards ranging from Intel -> Nvidia.
[18:39] <rickest> LargePrime: as long as it makes us feel good, I suppose so
[18:39] <edward_> mm.... i will look for that word on the dictionary... i can speak german or spanish or portuguese...
[18:39] <DSpair> sl00, Very strange. I have never seen that happen on Ubuntu.
[18:39] <edward_> wait just a second
[18:40] <LargePrime> rickest: mostly only used MS stuff before
[18:40] <rickest> LargePrime: for media, VLC (player) and amarok (bittorrent client) or deluge.  there are many others, perhaps Google will help now that you have those names
[18:40] <DSpair> Ich spreche sie deutche nicht.
[18:40] <nvstp> PerryArmstron, I think there should not be so many bugs
[18:40] <DSpair> Hablo espanol pequeno
[18:40] <edward_> ja ich kann das sehen... aber es ist kein problem
[18:40] <edward_> si?
[18:40] <rickest> LargePrime: another good Google search: site:reddit.com essential linux  (or site:digg.com)
[18:40] <olskolirc> hey guys how do i make mp3blaster play continuously without my picking the next song please?
[18:40] <edward_> hablas espanhol?
[18:41] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; so not advisable installing??
[18:41] <DSpair> edward_, asi asi.
[18:41] <_ruben> !english
[18:41] <_ruben> !spanish
[18:41] <scunizi> !es | edward_
[18:41] <rickest> LargePrime: apt-get install build-essential     # google that for why a dev would want to run that
[18:41] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, I think your system may be broken, your upgrading to 8.10 cannot resove these problems
[18:41] <DSpair> !german
[18:41] <edward_> well maybe i gotta see u agein
[18:42] <edward_> again
[18:42] <Nasra> Jrib: it was the navigation toolbar needed back
[18:42] <edward_> first i deleted all fils of tmp-.... it was a error... a mistake
[18:42] <jjjj5555> is ubuntu 9.04 already out=
[18:42] <jjjj5555> =
[18:42] <jjjj5555> ?
[18:42] <Nasra> Ctrl-I what is does is open another window....(kind of double panes sort of speak)....thanks
[18:42] <Nasra> gotta bakc
[18:42] <Nasra> back
[18:42] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; no i think you didnt get what i said...i used 8.04....then when 8.10 got out i installed it..and i found that it had bugs and i couldn't use it...so i reintalled 8.04 and i m planning to upgrade now to 8.10 if its good
[18:43] <edward_> than... i was always staring my computer... con strgn n... konsole
[18:43] <sl00> DSpair: Very annoying. Same thing with Fedora. My videocards are not even anything special. This current one is a VIA S3 and other ones have been Intel GMA and Nvidia Geforce.
[18:43] <edward_> than... sudo xinit... than sudo plasma;sudo kwin
[18:43] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, Oh, Now I see
[18:43] <edward_> now i have gnome. xface, blackbox, fluxbox, openbox... kde...
[18:43] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; so what do you say...upgrade...
[18:43] <edward_> on my system
[18:43] <DSpair> sl00, I cannot begin to tell you without more info. Have you tried to run "X -configure" from the console?
[18:44] <raulherbster> hi, is there a standard solution to create ubuntu installers (such as NSIS for windows)?
[18:44] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, I think both of them are good, it depends on your administration on them
[18:44] <edward_> now... it works... cuz i changed the permissions of tmp
[18:44] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; i can't reinstall 8.04 as of now if there will be problems with 8.10
[18:44] <DSpair> raulherbster, Yep, it's called a debian package.
[18:44] <edward_> n i changed the permissions of .iceauthority
[18:45] <DSpair> edward_, What does it say in /etc/passwd for your user?
[18:45] <edward_> n when i do something on var/www
[18:45] <jjjj5555> how can I really speed up my system? it seems so slow on a P4 2.4 ghz and 1gb ram
[18:45] <edward_> ??? what?
[18:45] <nathan7> jjjj5555: =O
[18:45] <nathan7> jjjj5555: Works great here.
[18:45] <edward_> for my user
[18:45] <edward_> for example
[18:45] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, your upgrading means reinstall or upgrade from 8.04?
[18:45] <nathan7> jjjj5555: On P4 too.
[18:45] <edward_> whan i wanted go to gnome
[18:45] <raulherbster> DSpair, I know.. but I mean, with user iteration... he can set installation folder, for example
[18:45] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; upgrading from 8.04
[18:46] <DSpair> edward_, The /etc/passwd file has the information which tells Linux where your home directory is located. I am wondering if it set incorrectly.
[18:46] <sl00> DSpair: Yes but it does not let me do anything.
[18:46] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, you may have a try
[18:46] <sl00> DSpair: Just text flashing by...
[18:46] <edward_> i cannot in the past...
[18:46] <edward_> work on my desktops
[18:46] <DSpair> sl00, True, it outputs a config file in your home directory. You should try that config in place of your current one.
[18:46] <edward_> ..... n i did the updates
[18:46] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, but I advise that you can make a new install of 8.10
[18:46] <edward_> but
[18:47] <edward_> is always a crash ding
[18:47] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; why a new install??
[18:47] <DSpair> edward_, I think that the language barrier is going to be too difficult. Please try the German channel #ubuntu-de
[18:47] <badfish69> is it possible for me to set up a secure ftp server with ubuntu intrepid desktop edition?
[18:48] <thopiekar> hi.. I really would like to install enlightenments python-bindings but the repo I wanted to install from is offline: http://greenie.sk/ubuntu/http://greenie.sk/ubuntu/ ... is there another repo I can use on ubuntu?
[18:48] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, it is not so stable of upgrade
[18:48] <edward_> mm ok
[18:48] <edward_> how can i change the channel?
[18:48] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; but then i may lose my data..if i install
[18:48] <edward_> :$
[18:48] <jjjj5555> nathan7: did you make any tweaks?
[18:48] <DSpair> edward_, I wish you luck!
[18:48] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, is your home directionary a independed part?
[18:49] <DSpair> nvstp, No, because nobody does that.
[18:49] <freelanceweb> ActionParsnip : Can you tell  me again my two options for upgrading my openSSH?
[18:49] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; i didnt get that question..didnt understand
[18:49] <DSpair> nvstp, Only old school geeks like me ever put the home dir on a seperate partition.
[18:49] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, what is your partition table?
[18:49] <edward_> thanks
[18:49] <edward_> :D
[18:49] <jjjj5555> what is the correct place to install a program to, if it has no installer but just a java .jar file that has to be executed
[18:50] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, you can give the result of "df"
[18:50] <edward_> please to meet u
[18:50] <DSpair> jjjj5555, Probably /usr/local/bin
[18:50] <sl00> DSpair: Nothing happened really. Same resolution. Only difference is that gnome did not start at all. Just a grey background and a X mouse pointer.
[18:50] <DSpair> sl00, Hrrmmm . . . Sucky.
[18:50] <freelanceweb> I am trying to get openSSH 5.1 on my 7.10 box. How do I go about that?
[18:51] <sl00> DSpair: If I read the xorg.conf.new it craeted it seems to select the "openchrome" driver for my card. Seems correct since it is a VIA S3 UniChrome
[18:51] <DSpair> sl00, Try renaming your X config file to something else and not having an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on the system and restart X. Then bulletproof X should try to start up with sane defaults.
[18:51] <nvstp>  DSpair, I think make a seperate parttion for home to put data is a good
[18:51] <madalin> hello
[18:51] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; http://pastebin.com/m5f9efe7e
[18:52] <kaiden> Any Synergy users here? I connect from Ubuntu 9.04 (Client) to Windows (Host) for my mouse / keyboard. When I move my mouse over the mouse hits that computer and sticks in the upper left hand corner. Keyboard works fine. Mouse clicks work fine but the mouse never moves. Any ideas?
[18:52] <DSpair> nvstp, It probably is a good thing, but nobody every teaches that to newbs.
[18:52] <DSpair> s/every/ever/
[18:52] <madalin> can anyone help me install a Winfast TV 2100 ? I've only found tutorials and such that relate to TV 2000..
[18:52] <Mr_Molez> does anyone know how i would make kdm start after rc.local ? (lower rc.locals run level or increase kdms run level ) ?
[18:53] <DSpair> nvstp, So, they end up with a single partition for "/" (the default for Ubuntu).
[18:53] <sl00> DSpair: How do I find out which config it uses when I jsut type startx then?
[18:53] <sl00> DSpair: I have renamed the one in /etc/X11
[18:53] <LjL> Mr_Molez: uhm, that would likely result in losing upstart's asynchronous capabilities - in plain english, very much increased boot time
[18:53] <dto> hi. anyone here with experience with psubuntu? it hangs on booting after a line about USB bus being deregistered
[18:53] <LargePrime> I reallly like ubuntu.  so i got irssi from the repo and installed.  how come it has not shown up in applications?
[18:53] <dto> during the install process
[18:54] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, even so, you can only choose to upgrade to 8.10 now
[18:54] <LjL> Mr_Molez: anyway, it would involve using "update-rc.d" to change the properties of the /etc/init.d/rc.local script
[18:54] <DSpair> sl00, X will almost always only use /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:54] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; why wat happened now??
[18:54] <sl00> DSpair: Hmm okey. I tried 'startx' and it looks the same :(
[18:54] <madalin> anyone can provide a link on how i could install a Winfast TV 2100 ?
[18:54] <LjL> Mr_Molez: actually, i think i just said nonsense - more likely you'd have to add a dependency on rc.local into /etc/init.d/kdm
[18:54] <Mr_Molez> LjL: thanks.. I noticed kdm is set at 01, could i move rc.local to anything lower than 01, is there anything lower than 01?
[18:55] <sl00> DSpair: There is no new corg.conf in /etc/X11 either.
[18:55] <sl00> xorg*
[18:55] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, Because you only have on partition for Linux, and you don't want lost your data, so ...
[18:55] <LjL> Mr_Molez: i'm not very sure but i don't think upstart really cares about those numbers anymore... adding a dependency on the other hand should work, i suppose
[18:55] <hbekel> sl00: /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells you what config file (if any) is being used
[18:55] <sl00> hbekel: Okey
[18:55] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; will things be safe??
[18:56] <DSpair> sl00: Tell you what. Sign on as "root" or use "sudo" to run "lspci -vv" and capture the output and put it on pastebin.
[18:56] <Mr_Molez> LjL: so i could just add what i have in rc.local to /etc/init.d then sleep 1 before the kdm stuff?
[18:56] <nvstp>  DSpair, Yes, I have found most pople do so, but I think this is too bad
[18:56] <LjL> Mr_Molez: err, that's not what i meant
[18:56] <Mr_Molez> LjL: but would that work ;)
[18:56] <LjL> Mr_Molez: i don't think so
[18:57] <DSpair> nvstp, I understand the reasoning perfectly. What should be done then is that the Ubuntu installer should default to creating a separate partition for "/home"
[18:57] <LjL> Mr_Molez: just edit kdm and add a dependency on rc.local
[18:57] <sl00> DSpair: I do not thing I can access internet using that computer :(
[18:57] <edward_> dspair... im now on the channel of germany... they r nit being really freindly
[18:57] <Mr_Molez> LjL: ok thanks :)
[18:57] <LjL> Mr_Molez: out of curiosity, why do you want to do that anyway?
[18:57] <sl00> DSpair: Xorg.0.0log says Unable to locateopen config file using defaults.
[18:57] <Dreamglider> the ubuntuforum is playing a pink prank or what ?
[18:57] <Mr_Molez> LjL: i need to unload some modules and reload them before X starts
[18:57] <nvstp>  DSpair: I agree!
[18:58] <DSpair> sl00, As it should. Try copying the files to a disk or thumb drive and then upload them.
[18:58] <LjL> Mr_Molez: ugh, ugly
[18:58] <DSpair> edward_, Sorry, I wish I could be more help.
[18:58] <Mr_Molez> LjL: hehe
[18:58] <nvstp> Good night every one:)
[18:58] <Dreamglider> gn
[18:58] <DSpair> G'nite nvstp
[18:58] <linduxed> is there a page on which i can see the progress of packages that are not stable?
[18:58] <LargePrime> what does ths mean?
[18:58] <LargePrime> Msttcorefonts uses the DEbian FOnt MAnager (defoma). If you wish to use the fonts provided by this package under the X Window System, you must configure it to use defoma fonts.
[18:58] <LargePrime> The easiest way to do so is to use the x-ttcidfont-conf package. For more information, install the x-ttcidfont-conf package and consult its documentation under /usr/share/doc/x-ttcidfont-conf.
[18:58] <LargePrime> For uses of msttcorefonts not related to the X Window System (e.g. printing) this is not required.
[18:58] <FloodBot2> LargePrime: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <madalin> were could i find help to my Tv Tuner Winfast 2100 ?
[18:58] <LjL> Mr_Molez: you could also erm, just do that inside the kdm script
[18:58] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip??
[18:59] <Mr_Molez> LjL: isn't that what I just asked :P lol
[18:59] <LjL> linduxed: what do you mean "packages that are not stable"?
[18:59] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; so you say upgrading is not advisable??
[18:59] <LjL> Mr_Molez: to me it sounded like you wanted to use sleep to "ensure" that X would wait
[18:59] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, No, I said exactly the opposite
[18:59] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, yes?
[18:59] <Mr_Molez> LjL: ohhh... it will not ?
[19:00] <jeffrey_> hey does anyone know of any good wireless extenders that work weill with ubuntu?
[19:00] <unop> LargePrime, it means if you want to use windows TTF fonts on linux .. install the x-ttcidfont-conf package. you don't have to do this if you want to be able to print with those fonts.
[19:00] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; okk fine then....i shall upgrade...nvsip..i am gonna upgrade
[19:00] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Just open your /etc/apt/source.list file and change all of the instances of "hardy" to "intrepid"; run "aptitude update", and then run "aptitude dist-upgrade"
[19:00] <LjL> Mr_Molez: not if you put your module commands in rc.local, and put a sleep instruction in kdm
[19:00] <LjL> Mr_Molez: but if you just put your module commands in kdm before it starts X, it should work
[19:00] <jeffrey_> I am looking for a way to extend my wireless connection and it appears the best way to do that is buy a card/usb wireless device w/ extended range
[19:00] <Mr_Molez> LjL: oh i see, well I meant put it all in the kdm script like you just said, okay I will do that, thanks alot :)
[19:00] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, OK. Good luck
[19:00] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Sorry, typo, thats /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:01] <LjL> Mr_Molez: well then i don't think a "sleep" would be needed at all, but what do i know
[19:01] <LargePrime> unop: install that package to view them?  but i can print them without the package?
[19:01] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; you mean replace all names of hardy to intrepid??
[19:01] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Yep
[19:01] <linduxed> LjL: for instance, clamav is in the version 0.94yaddayadda-ubuntu, but 0.95 without the yaddayadda-ubuntu is out. my guess was that the 0.95 package has been submitted to the devs so they can test it so that it sooner or later can be moved into the repos
[19:01] <Mr_Molez> LjL: I just want to make sure it has time to do its dirty business before X starts hehe
[19:01] <jeffrey_> hey does anyone know of any good wireless extenders that work weill with ubuntu?
[19:01] <LjL> linduxed: not really
[19:01] <LjL> !latest | linduxed
[19:01] <unop> LargePrime, well, it's actually, install the package to setup those fonts for use within X (to be able to display them) .. and no, you don't need this package to use the fonts in printing.
[19:02] <linduxed> LjL: i also assumed there was a page where the progress on that process was displayed
[19:02] <DSpair> jeffrey_, They should all work fine with Linux. Wireless extenders are dumb devices.
[19:02] <bogat> What program is normaly used to make presentation in Ubuntu? (something like powerpoint)
[19:02] <LjL> linduxed: new version of stuff is simply *not* added to the repositories, unless it involves important bug fixes. you only other venue is Backports
[19:02] <baldurpet> I think I've found a small error in the Ubuntu 9.04 beta
[19:02] <LargePrime> unop: if i open a doc that uses them what will i see?
[19:02] <LjL> bogat: openoffice?
[19:03] <Sooke> Anybody using iPhone with Amarok?
[19:03] <LjL> baldurpet: Jaunty discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[19:03] <baldurpet> ah thank you
[19:03] <baldurpet> didn't know that
[19:03] <unop> LargePrime, those fonts - as you'd expect.
[19:03] <sl00> DSpair: Hmm.. I does not seem to find the usbstick. *sigh*
[19:03] <Xiaofei> hi
[19:03] <vigo> baldurpet: join #ubuntu+1
[19:04] <LargePrime> unop: i dont mean to be thick, but if i can see them without the package why do i need the package?
[19:04] <linduxed> LjL: ok, but is there som info/progress-on-packages page on backports?
[19:05] <unop> LargePrime, maybe you already have defoma installed and configured?? that's why you can see them..
[19:05] <LjL> linduxed: before they actually get added to the repos, you can follow the launchpad report about them. please /msg ubottu !backports for more info
[19:05] <nood> hi all
[19:05]  * grawity greets nood.
[19:05] <nood> can i emulate Conficker with wine?
[19:05] <LjL> ...
[19:05] <nood> XD
[19:06] <Mr_Molez> LjL: that worked, thanks :)
[19:06] <sl00> DSpair: http://pastebin.com/m38658be3
[19:06] <LjL> Mr_Molez: just keep in mind that the day kdm gets an update, you'll probably be asked whether you want to use the new version or your custom version of the config file
[19:07] <LargePrime> unop: i do not know that i have anything installed or that i CAN see them.  I just wondered what i would see it i did not install the x-ttcdifont package
[19:07] <LjL> Mr_Molez: (in which case i'd recommend using the new version and re-adding the custom stuff later)
[19:07] <Mr_Molez> LjL: yeah it's not alot to add, i just hope I remember :), catch you later thanks
[19:07] <sl00> DSpair: http://pastebin.com/m11dc6b24  <-- xorg.conf.new
[19:08] <Lint01> how can I add Jaunty repositories to Intrepid?
[19:08] <Mean_Admin> can I do something like           sudo killall "ssh -L" to kill all ssh tunnels ?
[19:08] <unop> LargePrime, not sure .. but I have a suspicion that if you installed the debian/ubuntu msttcorefonts package - everything should be configured for you. don't quote me on this tho.
[19:08] <LjL> Lint01: you can't, unless you want to destroy your system
[19:08] <LjL> !jaunty > Lint01    (Lint01, see the private message from ubottu)
[19:09] <unop> Mean_Admin, I don't see that working .. unless you have processes actually named "ssh -L"
[19:09] <LargePrime> unop: it was the installation of that, that caused the warning above.
[19:09] <Lint01> !jaunty
[19:09] <linduxed> LjL: well thx for the launchpad tip then
[19:09] <Mean_Admin> unop: well when I   ps aux | grep ssh, stuff comes up but I really wanna target "ssh user@server -L port:host:port"
[19:09] <LiteShade> //quit
[19:10] <clearscreen> I wonder why ubuntu devs dont just ship packages like ubuntu-restricted-extras, proprietary(closed-source) drivers, msttcorefonts, etc by default in linux installations... I'm guessing 90%+ of the people installing ubuntu will end up wanting those packages anyway
[19:10] <unop> Mean_Admin,   maybe something like.   ps aux | awk '/ssh user@server \-L port:host:port/{print $2}' | xargs killall
[19:11] <hatter243> clearscreen, because they're not open source.
[19:11] <clearscreen> There isnt any legislation prohibiting them from doing that, is there?
[19:11] <clearscreen> hatter243: irrelevant
[19:11] <Mean_Admin> unop: half of that command is lost on me (but I get the idea)
[19:11] <aero1234> I need to get ubuntu into recovery mode, but it is not in the boot menu ... is there another method to invoke recovery mode?
[19:11] <Mean_Admin> br
[19:12] <hatter243> clearscreen, it is not irrelevant. They're easy to install should you want it, but if I want an open source system I do not want one that automatically installs closed source software on my system
[19:12] <clearscreen> as long as open-source alternatives to closed-source applications are inferior, I dont see any reason to not ship closed-source apps by default
[19:12] <LargePrime> All hail the mighty U.  it warned me i needed a package and then went and installed the needed package automagically.
[19:12] <clearscreen> hatter243: why not?
[19:12] <ikonia> LargePrime: ?
[19:12] <Andurino> hello
[19:12] <clearscreen> that's putting ideals before usability
[19:12] <hatter243> clearscreen, I want to be able to modify anything that I want to. I want to be able to examine the code and be sure that it's not calling mommy and talking about me behind my back
[19:13] <LargePrime> ikonia: i was just remarking on the coolness of ubuntu
[19:13] <Andurino> any speak spanish?
[19:13] <hatter243> !spanish | Andurino
[19:13] <vigo> !es
[19:13] <ikonia> Andurino: #ubuntu-es has lots of people that do
[19:13] <Andurino> thanks
[19:13] <clearscreen> hatter243: I was talking about the majority of ubuntu users ;) and nothing is stopping you from uninstalling them after getting into your installation.. heck, I bet you're currently using proprietary video drivers
[19:15] <clearscreen> I can assure you that at least 99% of the people using ubuntu won't be digging through xorg's nv code to find if the authors have hidden any keyloggers
[19:16] <clearscreen> oh well
[19:16] <LjL> !offtopic
[19:16] <vigo> Thank you
[19:17] <jatt> (OT: was youtube hacked?)
[19:17] <clearscreen> april fools
[19:17] <LjL> jatt: see just above
[19:17] <tvon> 4/1
[19:17] <tvon> most suckassed day on the internet
[19:18] <jatt> I see. Not funny but maybe is just me :).
[19:18] <Dreamglider> can i get my USB GPS receiver to work in ubuntu 8.10, it is listed as  ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port with lsusb
[19:18] <LjL> next offtopic remark earns a little ban
[19:18]  * grawity drinks lemonade
[19:19] <bogat> is there a program for ubuntu that can fight with keynote (mac)
[19:21] <eirik_> anyone here experienced with ddrescue? should it start out thinking of the whole drive as a single large error?
[19:22] <bogat> is there a program for ubuntu that can fight with keynote (mac)
[19:22] <vigo> Dreamglider: There are a number of GPS packages listed in the repositories.
[19:22] <Picassotamus> bogat: figiht with?
[19:22] <vigo> bogat: I am unable to figure out what you mean.
[19:23] <sl00> DSpair: Do you notice anything that is wrong?
[19:23] <ChotaZ> How do I move an entire folder from a place to another in the in terminal?
[19:24] <hbekel> ChotaZ: man mv
[19:24] <lantjie> chotaZ: mv -r
[19:24] <bogat> i mean: program as good as keynote
[19:24] <bogat> for ubuntu
[19:24] <bogat> with the same nice effects
[19:24] <bogat> or better
[19:25] <aero1234> I need to get ubuntu into recovery mode, but it is not in the boot menu ... is there another method to invoke recovery mode?
[19:25] <ChotaZ> sudo mv -r origin destination?
[19:25] <hbekel> lantjie: there's no -r in mv
[19:25] <vigo> bogat: eye candy stuff?
[19:26] <bogat> for example
[19:26] <bogat> yeah
[19:26] <sebsebseb>
[19:26] <lantjie> hbekel: shit sorry man it's only mv
[19:26] <lantjie> sorry
[19:26] <vigo> bogat: Yes, there are many effects and such that are in the repositories
[19:27] <vigo> Compiz, Desklets, and a bunch of others
[19:27] <erUSUL> aero1234: press "e" when in the menu to edit the boot options ... remove last ones "quiet" and "splash" and replace them with "single" press "b" to boot
[19:28] <jeffrey_> thank you DSpair I did not know
[19:28] <yoasdf> anyone know gdm's default runlevels?
[19:28] <yoasdf> mine are set to 2345S
[19:28] <erUSUL> !runlevels
[19:31] <raven1> guys...who has an experience here on USB CD Booting?
[19:31] <toorima> anyone know of some software to manage linux machines? push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, kinda like landscape but internal server
[19:31] <Ienorand> raven1: details?
[19:32] <raven1> lenorand...uhm..my BIOS doesnt support USB booting..so im trying the CD Booting for my USB
[19:32] <robertj> I'm rm -rfing a directory in which I own all the files but some of which I don't have write permissions on. I really don't want to have to chown these files in a seperate step, am I missing the elegant solution?
[19:32] <yoasdf> install grub
[19:32] <Ienorand> raven1: using a cd to boot usb?
[19:32] <yoasdf> and boot through grub?
[19:33] <raven1> details please
[19:33] <raven1> yeah lenorand
[19:33] <raven1> yoasdf....how will that work
[19:33] <erUSUL> robertj: the -f option should deal with read only issues
[19:33] <yoasdf> it will boot the usb
[19:33] <yoasdf> that's how i do it on my laptop that dont support usb booting
[19:33] <raven1> really?!
[19:33] <yoasdf> yes
[19:33] <raven1> so what should I do first
[19:34] <yoasdf> edit menu.lst
[19:34] <raven1> did u install your linux to your USB?
[19:34] <yoasdf> yes
[19:34] <raven1> then?
[19:34] <yoasdf> from my usb
[19:34] <raven1> what?!
[19:34] <raven1> from or to your USB?
[19:34] <yoasdf> i installed linux from my usb
[19:34] <raven1> and then?
[19:34] <yoasdf> u need to install grub first
[19:34] <Ienorand> raven1: hmm, you could always try UBCD: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[19:35] <danbhfive> help: Im trying to delete some files off of a USB drive, and its telling me it can't because it is a read only file system
[19:35] <sebsebseb> danbhfive: mount it, and  gksudo nautilus and that will give you access to it as root, but be careful if you use that, because if you delete something that is part of the system for example, that could be bad
[19:35] <raven1> hmmm...is that UBCD safe?
[19:36] <raven1> do you get my situation?
[19:36] <autoup> hi
[19:36] <EeRr> On install Ubuntu does not ask which source address I wish to use. Is this normal (other distros ask)?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> autoup: hi
[19:36] <danbhfive> sebsebseb: I use sudo rm *, and the same error.  I doubt using nautilus would help, but I can try if you think it will
[19:36] <hbekel> danbhfive: mounted ro?
[19:36] <raven1> i have windows xp but i want to install Ubuntu withouth repartitioning my drive so i decided to run ubuntu in my usb..unfortunately, my bios doesnt support USB booting...so what are the ways so i can run Ubuntu?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> danbhfive: sure try  what I said
[19:37] <danbhfive> hbekel: I dunno, it automounted
[19:37] <hbekel> danbhfive: how about you ckeck?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> raven1: why don't you want to partition?
[19:37] <danbhfive> hbekel: how do I check?
[19:37] <toorima> anyone know of some software to manage linux machines? push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, something like landscape but with our own internal server and preferably open source
[19:37] <raven1> i might lose some files...and my os doesnt have a backup
[19:37] <Mean_Admin> :( I'm not getting how to use kill or killall to kill an app having all characters like              killall --matching "ssh -L"
[19:38] <hbekel> danbhfive: type mount in a terminal
[19:38] <obhk___> I've installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my new netbook; everything worked fine but after updating the packages, I can't connect anymore to the internet?  Can anybody help me sort this out?
[19:38] <danbhfive> hbekel: it looks like  rw: /dev/sdc1 on /media/KINGSTON type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[19:39] <c7m> hi people, i need an advice. Is there any sense to include QoS into kernel?
[19:39] <giaco> hello!
[19:39] <Picassotamus> obhk___: wired or wireless? Error messages?
[19:39] <edoroman> does anyone know anything about making drivers?
[19:39] <c7m> someone definitely does
[19:39] <Ienorand> raven1: I think you should be able to chainload your usb boot loader from the ubuntu livecd, I'm not sure what the commands are though...
[19:40] <madhawie> hello
[19:40] <thom__> hi...
[19:40] <c7m> is there any sense to include QoS into kernel? someone knows?
[19:40] <obhk___> Picassotamus: wired, the network manager just says there's no connection, no specific errors, and I don't really know how to look for them
[19:41] <sisk> hello all
[19:41] <sisk> anyone here
[19:42] <ChotaZ> In amsn, is there any way of seeing your contact's DP in the contact window?
[19:42] <robertj> erUSUL: it doesn't
[19:42] <Picassotamus> obhk___: You can check system->admin->system log for error messages
[19:42] <giaco> I've just upgraded to 9.04! Everything works great but my xorg is eating a lot of cpu power, even w/o firefox opened (actually just with just xchat it eats 12% of my core due T7300). I'd like to ask you if this is a known issue and/or it has a specific name or something! Thank you for your support
[19:42] <robertj> erUSUL: if I don't force it it will prompt me, but even if I say yes it says permission denied
[19:42] <Picassotamus> !jaunty | giaco
[19:43] <thom__> anyone knows, how to solve 'read-only-system' on Flash disk?? It caused by Windows' viruses. So, I cant save my file to it. But, If I attrib it in Windows, then back to my system [ubuntu], it solved. How to solved it in unix-version
[19:43] <giaco> Picassotamus, thank you
[19:43] <Cyc> I'm using ubuntu 8.10 and having problems with panels. Usually i use dual monitors so have 4 panels two on each monitor. However if i boot up with only one monitor the panels dont work, only two load and they are unresponsive. Any ideas how i can solve this?
[19:43] <robertj> and admittedly its r--r------ but I own the thing
[19:44] <mbeierl> thom__: what does "mount" say about the stick?
[19:44] <danbhfive> hbekel: well, I solved it by just reformating.  no idea what was going on
[19:44] <robertj> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m63a16357 <-- am I just missing something stupid?