[00:24] <sk1special> you guys know how i can cut off the graphic for the login/wake up password screen?
[00:35] <natman> okay how do i pronounce "Quantal Quetzal " ( code name for 12.10 - i think )
[00:51] <strask> Hi, I think I found a bug in 12.04 beta 2, but I'm having trouble searching on launchpad to see if it's already known or not. It seems to be a raid bug with devices under /dev/mapper. When I search for "raid" or "mapper" in the bugs database, I get zero hits, so I wonder if I'm searching right or if there are really zero raid bugs out there...?
[00:53] <Daekdroom> I can find plenty RAID bugs.
[00:54] <strask> That's what I figured, I must be doing something idiotic in my search.
[00:54] <Daekdroom> Are you searching under the Ubuntu project?
[00:54] <strask> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/ is where I'm searching.
[00:55] <Daekdroom> Oh. I didn't look for Precise bugs.
[00:57] <strask> Aha! Ok search is working fine in the wider ubuntu search, so I guess there just aren't any precise raid bugs yet and I'll go ahead and file one. Thanks!
[00:57] <Daekdroom> strask, the fact that there aren't any bugs tagged with precise doesn't mean your bug is not already reported.
[00:58] <Daekdroom> It's possible it's happening since an older version.
[00:58] <Daekdroom> Or rather, used to happen in an older version and is now happening again.
[00:58] <strask> True, I suppose, but it is broken on my system in 12.04 and works in 11.10. But point taken I will search a little more.
[01:01] <christhisisgool> cant wait until the beta comes out
[01:01] <Daekdroom> ....
[01:01] <Daekdroom> !Schedule
[01:05] <notKlaatu> hi, anyone know how I can get seahorse-plugins on Pangolin?  launchpad seems to suggest it's not in the repo.
[01:05] <notKlaatu> goal is to get GUI support for gpg encryption as a contextual menu of nautilus
[01:07] <notKlaatu> https://launchpad.net/seahorse-plugins  to be exact
[01:10] <notKlaatu> nevermind, i think bug 796752 is answering my question
[01:10] <BoyBlunder> is there anyway to get the top panel in unity to use the same window theme as everything else? my close/min/max icons are all different
[01:12] <Daekdroom> BoyBlunder, the theme you are using does not support Unity.
[01:12] <Klikini1> !schedule
[01:13] <BoyBlunder> where can I find some unity-friendly themes?
[01:21] <remaster> hello! i have problems in my ubuntu 12.04
[01:22] <remaster> in nautilus, empathy ando some other aplications, the scroll stop to worck, but in chrome or firefox it works well
[01:22] <bcuraboy> hi.how can i setup a new win xp installation in virtual box with usb ports enabled?
[01:22] <remaster> i notice that it happen some times i open empathy
[01:25] <FernandoMiguel> good nite fuys
[01:25] <FernandoMiguel> *guys
[01:25] <FernandoMiguel> see you in the next cycle
[01:30] <strask> Stupid question what kernel version is the 12.04 beta 2? I don't have it booted right now.
[01:36] <strask> Nevermind found it - kernel for beta2 is 3.2.0-20.33
[01:36] <booi> anybody know why the dropbox icon in 12.04 doesn't look right?
[01:36] <Daekdroom> What do you mean by 'doesn't look right'?
[01:37] <lasha> guys
[01:37] <lasha> I have a question !
[01:38] <lasha> who is familiar with compiz?
[01:38] <lasha> I wanna run compiz on gnome 3, is it even possible ? like woobly windows and cube ?
[01:38] <Daekdroom> With GNOME Shell? Nope.
[01:38] <lasha> what about gnome 2 ?
[01:39] <lasha> so basically, if i go to classic, is it gonna work same as for example 10.10 /10.04 compiz ?
[01:39] <Daekdroom> Yes.
[01:39] <booi> Daekdroom, http://i.imgur.com/boGxp.jpg
[01:39] <Lint01> release date/time?
[01:39] <lasha> daekdroom ok thank you, ill give it a shoot
[01:40] <booi> Daekdroom, should look more like https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1656836/linux/toolbar-synced.png or maybe in greyscale to match
[01:40] <lasha> what do you guys recommend personally ? do you personally stick with gnome shell or gnome2/compiz ?
[01:40] <Daekdroom> lasha, why not Unity?
[01:40] <lasha> ooo
[01:40] <lasha> good question
[01:40] <lasha> too slow ?
[01:41] <Daekdroom> Well, Unity runs on top of Compiz.
[01:41] <lasha> i feel like my computer is old when I use with unity
[01:41] <Daekdroom> It only feels slow for me when I open the Dash (which is rarely)
[01:41] <Daekdroom> Fortunately it's improving.
[01:42] <lasha> hmm dunno, if I use unity I would rather install macos on t500, maybe a bad comparison but UI wise its so similar and annoying and no special linux fun features that makes linux fun :s
[01:42] <lasha> unity doesnt intergrate on wide level does it
[01:42] <lasha> kk
[01:42] <lasha> in 2 days i ll try out all combos :D
[01:42] <lasha> waiting for lts
[03:22] <c_smith> Hey, I'm having issues with Conky not inheriting the current wallpaper in Xubuntu, it always takes the default wallpaper no matter what the current wallpaper is. is there something I can try to fix this? I can also paste my .conkyrc file (it was written in a different language than english which I understand)
[03:22] <c_smith> This is Xubuntu 12.04, btw.
[03:25] <haz3lnut> too many crashes?  Are we really releasing on the 26th?  I have had app crashes twice in 12 hours.  not a good sign.  Anyone got any feedback on that?
[03:26] <c_smith> haz3lnut, what app?
[03:26] <c_smith> and twice doesn't seem as bad as it was.
[03:28] <haz3lnut> this morning it was rhythmbox, a few moments ago it was gnofract4d
[03:29] <haz3lnut> twice in 1 day seems really bad for a product that will "release" in less than 48 hours.
[03:31] <c_smith> haz3lnut, understandable, but I've had no crashes on Xubuntu with my many apps installed, not since I installed it.
[03:31] <c_smith> Rhythmbox is really stable for me.
[03:33] <haz3lnut> I upgraded last night.  This morning I loaded rhythmbox, and it automagically started to catalog all of my music.  about 10% in it crapped out and offered to send a crash report to ubuntu.  I told it "yes".
[03:34] <haz3lnut> I just cranked up rhythmbox again.  I'll let you know if it pukes again.
[03:35] <haz3lnut> anyone care to offer a reason why we are jumping between rhythbox, to banshee, to rhythmbox again?
[03:51] <wer0ckz> Help! my ubuntu 12.04 wont boot. i downloaded the iso and burn disk. no error message just a blinking cursor. I installed it in /dev/sda5 ext4
[03:52] <wer0ckz> hi
[03:52] <wer0ckz> im here
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: it clearly stated when you joined the channel
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: what GPU do you use?
[03:53] <wer0ckz> nvidia
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[03:53] <wer0ckz> ok wait. im loading the ubuntu cd now. "try ubuntu" or "install"
[03:53] <wer0ckz> i assume "try ubuntu"
[03:53] <wer0ckz> right?
[03:54] <cc11rocks> Does the Rhythmbox that is preinstalled with Ubuntu 12.04 include an equalizer?
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:55] <jdhfr> ubuntu's network manager breaks my network connection how come??
[03:55] <Jordan_U> wer0ckz: Do you have any problem booting from the CD normally? I assume no, since you say that you have installed Ubuntu already.
[03:56] <wer0ckz> yes ubuntu installed
[03:56] <wer0ckz> but when i eject the cd, it doesnt boot at all
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: then add the boot option to the installed OS
[03:57] <Jordan_U> wer0ckz: Did you use manual partitioning or automatic?
[03:58] <wer0ckz> first was manual it doesnt work same error
[03:58] <wer0ckz> now partition /dev/sda5 ext4
[03:58] <wer0ckz> ActionParsnip: to add boot option, i'll just "try ubuntu" first?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> wer0ckz: Did you change where grub was configured to be installed to?
[03:58] <wer0ckz> or the Advanced Welcome Page Options
[03:59] <wer0ckz> Jordan_U: im not sure
[03:59] <Jordan_U> wer0ckz: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[03:59] <wer0ckz> no just 1. but partition
[03:59] <wer0ckz> original was windows. C: and D:
[03:59] <wer0ckz> i deleted teh windows C: change it to ubuntu
[03:59] <wer0ckz> fail
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: if the OS is installed, you don't need to try Ubuntu. It's already installed
[04:01] <wer0ckz> right. like i said, its working usign the cd "try ubuntu"
[04:01] <wer0ckz> when i eject the cd, it doesnt boot. just a blinking cursor black backgroud
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: is the OS installed to the HDD?
[04:02] <Jordan_U> wer0ckz: Try holding shift during boot. If you don't get a grub menu when you do that, then you probably incorrectly changed where grub was installed. If you *do* get a grub menu, then you can try ActionParsnip's trick from there (press 'e' to edit the menu entry then add "nomodeset" at the end of the line which starts with "linux").
[04:02] <wer0ckz> ActionParsnip: i guess so
[04:02] <wer0ckz> i got 7.72Gib used - free 292.28 Gib
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: then try holding shift, as Jordan_U stated
[04:02] <wer0ckz> thats the /dev/sda5 ext4 <- where i installed the ubuntu
[04:02] <wer0ckz> ok
[04:03] <wer0ckz> i'll just restart the laptop
[04:03] <wer0ckz> thanks guy
[04:03] <wer0ckz> thanks guys
[04:03] <Jordan_U> You're welcome.
[04:07] <wer0ckz> the shift doesnt work
[04:08] <wer0ckz> i got the Advanced Welcome Page Options
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> do you hold it as soon as the system starts to power up?
[04:08] <wer0ckz> yes
[04:08] <wer0ckz> very long press SHIFT
[04:09] <wer0ckz> should i go to the boot option?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> yes, keep it pressed and you will see the grub boot screen
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> then press E to (e)dit the options. Delete 'quiet splash' and in it's place add 'nouveau.blacklist=1'   then press ENTER
[04:14] <wer0ckz> shift still not working
[04:14] <wer0ckz> what's next?
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: I suggest you use a chroot and you can change the options that way. You will also be able to upgrade the OS if you have web access in the liveCD
[04:16] <wer0ckz> ok. please tell me how to do the chroot?
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[04:19] <Bodnar> question, are the repos pretty well final at this point? reason being is i'm wanting to roll a template for my clients but am afraid of some big change landing the day of the release :)
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: there are LOADS of guides online on how to chroot
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: but you still asked....
[04:21] <wer0ckz> i give up
[04:21] <wer0ckz> i'll chnage it to ubuntu 11
[04:21] <wer0ckz> err
[04:21] <bazhang> wer0ckz, there is no version 11
[04:22] <wer0ckz> 11.10 my bad
[04:23] <bazhang> wer0ckz, thats a full reinstall
[04:24] <jdhfr> grub2 switches to graphic screen before showing the menu
[04:24] <wer0ckz> so when should i press SHIFT?
[04:25] <wer0ckz> i was pressing shift 5 minutes
[04:25] <jdhfr> shift won't help
[04:25] <bazhang> jdhfr, to get to grub menu, yes it does
[04:26] <jdhfr> bazhang: not if grub tries to show a gui menu in unsupported mode
[04:27] <bazhang> jdhfr, do you even have ubuntu installed?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> wer0ckz: before grub loads, hold shift
[04:27] <jdhfr> bazhang: I spend 2 days truing to make grub to boot in the text video mode :)
[04:28] <bazhang> jdhfr, why are you asking in here? you are using fedora
[04:29] <jdhfr> what do I asking here?
[04:29] <jdhfr> *am
[04:29] <bazhang> jdhfr, this channel is for the development release of ubuntu, bug fixing and testing: 12.04
[04:31] <cc11rocks> bazhang : Will it change to 12.10 on Friday? Or will this channel be "dead" for awhile?
[04:32] <bazhang> cc11rocks, not sure on that one yet.
[04:32] <bazhang> cc11rocks, it remained open the previous release
[04:32] <cc11rocks> bazhang : Okay, thanks
[04:32] <Bodnar> are the repos still collecting files that will be in the final release? or just stuff in universe?
[04:33] <bazhang> Bodnar, syncing? undoubtedly
[04:33] <bazhang> Bodnar, which repos are you using
[04:33] <Boohbah> i didn't even know what a pangolin was until you decide to name your distribution after it :)
[04:34] <Bodnar> bazhang: releases.ubuntu.com
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: you gotta see the name of 12.10 then :D
[04:34] <Bodnar> i'm wanting to packup a new template for my users but if there's a chance there's some core files that may change from now till release
[04:34] <CyberWorld> Is i386 still recommended for desktop?
[04:34] <Bodnar> i don't really want to chance it :)
[04:34] <bazhang> CyberWorld, do you have a 64bit machine?
[04:35] <CyberWorld> yeah
[04:35] <cc11rocks> CyberWorld : we'll see in two days
[04:35] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: where can i see that?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> CyberWorld: depends on hardware and needs
[04:35] <bazhang> CyberWorld, then use 64, no reason not to
[04:35] <CyberWorld> flash is usually a problem with 64 bit
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: it's 'Quantal Quetzal'
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> CyberWorld: there is a 64bit flash plugin, so no issue at all
[04:35] <Boohbah> ooh, isn't a quetzal a mythical bird?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: no its a real bird
[04:35] <bazhang> CyberWorld, flash has not been an issue on 64 for a while now
[04:35] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: interesting
[04:36] <Boohbah> CyberWorld: i can also confirm that 64bit flash has not been an issue for me
[04:36] <bazhang> apart from flash being a problem as flash
[04:36] <cc11rocks> Newsflash : Flash will not be supported soon...But an app in Chrom/ium will be supported by Adobe which is basically flash
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: from Mexico
[04:36] <Boohbah> flash is a necessary evil
[04:36] <CyberWorld> cool maybe I should try 64 then
[04:36] <Boohbah> hopefully the gnash project will continue to improve
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: or lightspark
[04:36] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: hmm, never heard of it, i will check it out
[04:36] <cc11rocks> GNU/Linux really needs to push for HTML5 now that Flash will be "dead" for us soon...
[04:36] <cc11rocks> *GNU/Linux community
[04:37] <CyberWorld> i386 pae is cool though going to 64 Gigs of ram
[04:37] <Boohbah> cc11rocks: what do you mean, flash will be dead for us soon?
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> CyberWorld: yes but each process will only see 3.2Gb RAM
[04:37] <cc11rocks> Boohbah : Give me a sec, and I'll find a link
[04:38] <cc11rocks> Boohbah : http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/03/adobe-releases-last-linux-version-of.html
[04:39] <Boohbah> cc11rocks: thanks for the link
[04:39] <cc11rocks> No problem
[04:39] <cc11rocks> Boohbah : http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/02/flash-player-for-linux-will-be.html
[04:39] <cc11rocks> The second one is about Chrome, first is about being the last one
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux/
[04:39] <cc11rocks> Second : Flash Player For Linux Will Be Supported On Chrome Only, First : Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player
[04:40] <Boohbah> wow, seems like adobe is *trying* to kill flash
[04:40] <Boohbah> don't understand what they're thinking
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> cc11rocks: yeah i'll be jumping to chrome (if flash isn't in chromium) :)
[04:40] <cc11rocks> But it's still not good for us...
[04:41] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: i have used chromium for a while, but i'm switching back to firefox
[04:41] <cc11rocks> I love Chromium...Will be sad to have to move to Chrome...
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: hopefully HTML5 will take off and flash will be put in a box in the garage
[04:41] <Boohbah> because i don't trust google
[04:41] <jdhfr> Boohbah: they will develop flash for windows, and leave inferior platforms to their own
[04:41] <Boohbah> though chrome/chromium is a very nice browser
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: chromium doesn't have the tracking guff in that chrome has
[04:41] <cc11rocks> I don't like being in the "Apple camp" trying to push HTML5 (because Adobe is screwing us over)
[04:41] <CyberWorld> how does ubuntu pay for bandwidth where does the money come from?
[04:41] <cc11rocks> Apple + GNU/Linux = crap
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> CyberWorld: there is paid for support and other stuff
[04:42] <CyberWorld> yeah I guess I did too when I bought some mp3s
[04:42] <CyberWorld> plan on seeding after release on a fast line
[04:42] <jdhfr> when I trying to use unity network manager, it brings my network adapter down
[04:42] <cc11rocks> CyberWorld : Cononical sells support for Ubuntu
[04:43] <jdhfr> and I have to up him, and then run dhclient manually
[04:43] <cc11rocks> jdhfr : Do you have all the updates installed?
[04:43] <jdhfr> what's happening?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> jdhfr: are there bugs reported?
[04:47] <Boohbah> m
[05:03] <Num83rGuy> I can not get KDE's connection manager to use my VPN.
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> Num83rGuy: are there bugs reported?
[05:03] <Num83rGuy> No it just won't connect
[05:04] <Num83rGuy> Hold on sorry be back in a second.
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Num83rGuy: then I suggest you report one. Precise is not ready
[05:06] <ANub_> One day to go .............. ah time is moving slowly
[05:07] <donpdonp> ANub_: i joined this channel just to see the mania
[05:08] <donpdonp> i guess its too early for that :)
[05:08] <ANub_> donpdonp: welcome to this channel
[05:08] <c_smith> ANub_, heh, not much will change in my system, what I'm looking forward to is the release party that the LoCo team in my state is holding, that, and the Ubuntu Hour I organize in my town.
[05:09] <ANub_> yeah.....ubuntu says not much is gonna change.....but its with 5 yrs support and high stability
[05:09] <ANub_> cant wait to switch
[05:13] <Artemis3> release with nvidia 295.40 = trouble
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> Artemis3: not here with my 6150LE onboard
[05:17] <Artemis3> nv40 is probably safe
[05:19] <cc11rocks> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/254387/a_sneak_peek_at_ubuntu_1204_precise_pangolin.html
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Artemis3: I know it is, as I run it :)
[05:37] <Splashman> lindsay im not finding any info
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: what make and model system is it>
[05:40] <Splashman> HP DV4-1428DX
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> try:    echo "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4 enable_msi=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf            reboot to test
[05:41] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, dv4-1428dx
[05:42] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, There was really nothing of worth listen on google. Coming here was a last resort.
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: you will need a line like that in alsa-base.conf      just need the correct one for your hardware
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> might also be: options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1            instead, try both. Reboot between eac edit
[05:47] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, Yes, being an Arch Linux user I can agree that this solution has probability to be most effective. I assume the file you have mentioned is located in /etc/ ? I must check.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: the file is /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[05:49] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, Ah yes, that was it!
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: the first command adds the line for you, you will need to open the file to try the second
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: I've seen a tonne of users with these HP DV4s with sound issues
[05:49] <lindsay> sudo nano
[05:49] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, Any you have seen with sucess?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: some, not a whole lot
[05:51] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, Any encounters with the mic in these devices?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: not 100% sure tbh. I post on launchpad quite a lot so see quite a lot of different stuff
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: may help: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+questions?field.search_text=HP+DV4&field.sort=RELEVANCY&field.sort-empty-marker=1&field.actions.search=Search&field.language=en&field.language-empty-marker=1&field.status=OPEN&field.status=NEEDSINFO&field.status=ANSWERED&field.status=SOLVED&field.status-empty-marker=1
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> stupid long URLs
[05:58] <lindsay> ActionParsnip, That's why you use pastebin :) Thank you!
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> lindsay: or tinyurl ;)
[06:27] <linuxuz3r> 26?
[06:27] <linuxuz3r> 12.04?
[06:28] <ssfdre38> hey what time in UTC is 12.04 be release?
[06:28] <linuxuz3r> hi ssfdre38
[06:28] <astraljava> linuxuz3r: It usually helps if your sentences contain more than just digits or just one word. But yes, precise is out tomorrow.
[06:29] <ssfdre38> well for me tomorrow is Wend not Thurs
[06:30] <astraljava> ssfdre38: Fine, my bad. Yes, precise is out on Thu, 26th of April.
[06:30] <linuxuz3r> whew
[06:30] <linuxuz3r> i want to just upgrade
[06:31] <ssfdre38> well astraljava do you know in UTC/GMT that it will be release?
[06:32] <linuxuz3r> party in here ok
[06:32] <linuxuz3r> ill bring beer
[06:38] <vega-> linuxuz3r: so what's stopping from upgrading now?
[06:39] <vega-> it will be no different now or in a few hours when it is released
[06:39] <ssfdre38> well im on 12.04 but there are a few upgrades i cant get cause somehow the packages it needs to upgrade with doesnt allow it
[06:42] <astraljava> ssfdre38: No, I'm not sure they have it locked down just yet. Depends on testing results.
[06:43] <ssfdre38> so for me it can be tomorrow
[06:43] <mvn071> aufs won't compile bug or user_error ?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/945239/
[06:56] <eagles0513875> hey guys i am getting this message http://pastebin.com/0WqrGzeh all 3rd party items have been removed yet i still cannot upgrade i am trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[07:02] <_xan_> eagles: try... sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[07:03] <_xan_> eagles:  then run... sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:03] <_xan_> then try to upgrade the distribution
[07:03] <eagles0513875> _xan_: ok
[07:05] <eagles0513875> _xan_: thanks that seems to be doing the trick
[07:06] <_xan_> eagles: glad it worked
[07:06] <eagles0513875> _xan_: lets just hope it doesnt break anything
[07:08] <gnomefreak> running clean will not hurt anything
[07:09] <eagles0513875> but i had run do-release upgrade -d before and it was failing and now it has 1,000 packages from the precise repos which it is upgrading and that is what im worried about in regards to screwing up the system
[07:09] <gnomefreak> no need to worry :)
[07:10] <eagles0513875> :) ok i hope not
[07:10]  * eagles0513875 slides gnomefreak a cup of coffee
[07:10] <gnomefreak> thanks
[07:10] <eagles0513875> i have to say though the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 of kubuntu was the very first upgrade I have had no issues
[07:10] <eagles0513875> not to mention on my netbook kde 4.8 feels alot more streamlined and performant
[07:10] <gnomefreak> i need to run to the atm just not sure i want to leave the house yet
[07:11] <eagles0513875> lol gnomefreak  what time is it where your at
[07:11] <eagles0513875> is it rush hour?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> 3:11am
[07:11] <eagles0513875> O_O
[07:11] <eagles0513875> i wouldnt leave the house that early lol
[07:12]  * gnomefreak brb smoke
[07:30] <sb1980> hi! i just did an update from 11.10 to 12.04 and now my network-manager does not start ... do i need to run something after rebooting?
[07:31] <eagles0513875> sb1980: on kubuntu it works just fine for me
[07:34] <eagles0513875> sb1980: did you tell it somehow not to autostart the network manager?
[07:35] <sb1980> eagles0513875: no, and now i started it manually, but still it does not seem to really work
[07:35] <eagles0513875> im no help as i am on kde and everything is working as it should
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> sb1980: try reinstalling the network manager packages
[07:40] <sb1980> ActionParsnip: i will try now. thx.   also i tried dpkg --configure -a  but i breaks because of too many errors..
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> sb1980: welcome to beta software dude, could install wicd and uninstall network manager
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> sb1980: are there any bugs reported?
[07:43] <sb1980> ActionParsnip: right now i'm getting loads of unresolved packages what ever i try to to, so i'm doing apt-get upgrade-f now, hope it helps
[07:43] <sb1980> looks to me like the update process to 12.04 somehow stopped...but it told me everythin was successfull
[07:44] <_xan_> did you reboot?
[07:51] <sb1980> _xan_:yes
[08:03] <uofm49426> well were can i post the pitcher then ActionParsn
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: use imgur / imageshack etc
[08:05] <uofm49426> just try this in ubuntu look up hesitate stone sour firefox youtube then do same on yahoo music videos
[08:06] <uofm49426> people being blue the fire blue
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> wow people still listen to stone sour? wow...
[08:07] <uofm49426> but it should be red or pink
[08:08] <uofm49426> i dont have the problem in windows
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: its a completely different OS with completely different support
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'     use http://pastie.org to host (or similar)
[08:14] <uofm49426> http://pastebin.com/WYjtMMYP
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer     then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin    and you will ave 64bit flash for your 64bit OS
[08:23] <uofm49426> so the flash plug in is 32 bit i have
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: yes, there is a 64bit one in the partner repo
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> no word of thanks.....some people
[08:35] <CyberWorld> indeed
[08:36] <glosoli> hah 1 day left :)
[08:44] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: thanks :) granted you havent done anything for me thanks anyway :)
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: np man :)
[08:45] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: you just being you :) thanks :D
[08:45] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip:  you a kde user?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: when KDE 3.5 was around, yes. Now I use Gnome+Unity2D or LXDE :)
[08:46] <sb1980> ActionParsnip, eagles0513875_ : upgrade -f seems to have resolved a lot of problems. looks like the dist upgrade stopped, but did not throw an error before
[08:46] <eagles0513875_> sb1980:  :)
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> sb1980: sweet
[08:46] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: noooo come back to kde 4 bro
[08:47] <eagles0513875_> omg kde 4.8 is so zippy on a netbook
[08:47] <Artemis3> i stay with xfce thanks
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: unity seems to work ok here.I use about 5 apps tops. LXDE is what I mainly use
[08:48] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: unity is a hunk of junk needs lots of work especially for netbooks imho
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: it holds the few apps I run.Most stuff I do in CLI using guake (yakuake is the equiv in KDE)
[08:49] <eagles0513875_> what is yakuake
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: did you ever play quake, alf-life /counterstrike etc?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> *half-life
[08:50] <eagles0513875_> ahh ok#
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: the tilde menu? it's like that and you use it instead of konsole / gnome-terminal etc
[08:50] <eagles0513875_> interesting
[08:51] <eagles0513875_> i still have lots to learn about the greatness known as linux
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: set a big command running, hide it. Then show it again to check progress etc, soooo much better than a floating terminal getting lost in the other windows
[08:51] <eagles0513875_> love backgrounding tasks hehe :D
[08:51] <eagles0513875_> havent used that concept much but i am aware of that
[08:52] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: i put together a how to after ikonia explained to me a few things would you mind taking a look at it on my site and check it for accuracy?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: sure
[08:53] <eagles0513875_> hold on
[08:54] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip:  :) http://eagleeyet.net/hardenssh/
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: looks good
[08:55] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: feel free to pm me with any corrections seeing as that not precise material :)
[08:56] <eagles0513875_> i have another how to to write on securing ones system by removing unnecessary users
[08:56] <eagles0513875_> feel free to check out the others ActionParsnip and provide any feed back on them or any part of my site
[09:03] <hifi> wait, what?
[09:03] <hifi> your 2. point is false
[09:04] <eagles0513875_> hifi: ???
[09:04] <hifi> do you know what PermitRootLogin does?
[09:05] <eagles0513875_> hifi: yes
[09:05] <eagles0513875_> allows you to login as the root user
[09:05] <eagles0513875_> which i dont have setup i use sudo
[09:05] <hifi> the wording you use is misleading then
[09:06] <hifi> "a user to compromise", it gives the impression it has something to do with already logged in users rathern than the actual root user
[09:06] <Trewas> the first point (listenaddress) is not particularly useful, unless the computer has several network interfaces and only one should be used for ssh logins
[09:07] <hifi> and you could control that with the firewall anyway
[09:07] <eagles0513875_> ok
[09:18] <sk1special> anyone know how to make my prahics card driver install not disappear my second monitor?
[09:18] <sk1special> graphic*
[09:21] <xranby> sk1special: no idea unless you specify which driver you installed and which card you are using
[09:21] <xranby> sk1special: try open the screens ettings and enable the second monitor output
[09:23] <sk1special> nvidia geforce..shit. something cheaper lol. i installed the graphic accelerator *recommended* one listed..and the other that says post release updates.
[09:24] <sk1special> tried.. it doesnt see it at all. right now theyre uninstalled. and all it does is have a sorta horizontal line filled screen for about 20 secs when i start up
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: did you install the proprietary driver?
[09:25] <sk1special> and when i install it that goes away..but then theres no option at all for the second monitor. and no.. i just searched for drivers needed and it only listed that
[09:28] <sk1special> do i need to go to there site and download the main software or ?
[09:29] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: correct me if i am wrong but if i or someone were to download the drivers from nvidia or ati directly one wont be able to get support right
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: they'll be advised to remove it and use the packaged version afaik
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: there is a handy ppa for 295 driver for nvidia
[09:30] <eagles0513875_> well i did that once ActionParsnip and ikonia told me that i wouldnt get any help from anyone
[09:30] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: why is it illadvised to do though
[09:31] <sk1special> and i have no idea what that means because ive used windows up until i installed this last night :]
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: it doesn't get updated usingusual upgrade methods and I'm not sure dkms will be called after each new kernel
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[09:33] <eagles0513875_> got it ActionParsnip on another not i am trying to help a friend upgrade his server and i keep getting this E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[09:33] <eagles0513875_> any idea what the issue could be
[09:34] <eagles0513875_> or how to fix it for that matter
[09:35] <sk1special> all of it?
[09:35] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: nm my issue i solved it :) thanks anyway
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: nice
[09:35] <sk1special>  *-display
[09:35] <sk1special>        description: VGA compatible controller
[09:35] <sk1special>        product: GT218 [GeForce 210]
[09:35] <sk1special>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[09:35] <sk1special>        physical id: 0
[09:35] <sk1special>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[09:35] <sk1special>        version: a2
[09:35] <sk1special>        width: 64 bits
[09:35] <eagles0513875_> !pastebin | sk1special
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: yes, tats what a pastebin is for
[09:36] <sk1special>        clock: 33MHz
[09:36] <sk1special>        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
[09:36] <sk1special>        configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[09:36] <sk1special>        resources: irq:16 memory:b2000000-b2ffffff memory:a0000000-afffffff memory:b0000000-b1ffffff ioport:b000(size=128) memory:b3000000-b307ffff
[09:36] <eagles0513875_> !pastebin | sk1special
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: use a pastebin
[09:36] <sk1special> No LSB modules are available.
[09:36] <sk1special> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[09:36] <sk1special> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:36] <sk1special> Release:	12.04
[09:36] <sk1special> Codename:	precise
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> oh jeez
[09:36] <eagles0513875_> sk1special: STOP
[09:36] <sk1special> Linux Sk1Special 3.2.0-23-generic-pae #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 22:19:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[09:36] <eagles0513875_> sk1special: use pastebin
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: I said to use a pastebin.....
[09:36] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: question whats the difference between apt and aptitude
[09:36] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip:  even got the bot to tell him to use it
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: aptitude has an ncurses gui
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: both do pretty much the same job
[09:37] <eagles0513875_> could i still use teh full-upgrade switch with apt
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: sure, I only use apt-get
[09:37] <eagles0513875_> ya me too hence i was wondering
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: aptitude also has the search feature like apt-cache
[09:37] <eagles0513875_> the issue i was running into was that i had a partial upgrade that the upgrades didnt finish downloading due to some other 3rd party stuff
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: you are using the open source driver.
[09:38] <eagles0513875_> but this should fix it now
[09:38] <sk1special> and i said i have no idea about any of this because ive always used windows/ a real chat. My bad tho
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: the why not be intelligent and ask us to tell you WHAT pastebin is?
[09:38] <sk1special> and yeah im using whatevers default because when i cut the other one on it cuts off my second monitor..
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: instead of spamming the channel
[09:39] <sk1special> *shrug* i know now. my bad
[09:39] <eagles0513875_> humm same error as before
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: try:    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:40] <eagles0513875_> btw ActionParsnip apt-get full-upgrade doesnt work sadly :(
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: full-upgrade isn't an option of apt-get, the man page will tell you that
[09:40] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: ahh well i was running that and i was running into E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[09:41] <eagles0513875_> still ran an apt-get clean and re running the aptitude full upgrade but i think we have the same issue thats going to arise
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: try: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:42] <eagles0513875_> that didnt work ActionParsnip
[09:42] <eagles0513875_> you mean -f dist-upgrade if thats possible
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: what is output?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> no, I meant sudo apt-get -f install   like I wrote
[09:42] <eagles0513875_> root@eagleits:~# apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1020 not upgraded.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: if you start mangling commands you'll get issues
[09:42] <eagles0513875_> ok
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/945433/
[09:44] <sk1special> do i install the other accelerator drivers now or restart or anything?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> sk1special: the command I gave is all you need, reboot to test
[09:46] <sk1special> mmk .. thank ya thank ya
[09:46] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: do i run this command with LANG=C in front LANG=C;sudo apt-get clean
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: run each line in turn, none of the lines should wrap
[09:47] <eagles0513875_> ok
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: or if that is too hard:  cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[09:48] <eagles0513875_> no its fine im close to finishing
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> good ol dropbox
[09:52] <md_5> can't wait for release :O
[09:52] <eagles0513875_> md_5: tomorrow :D
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> md_5: could install now, then upgrade into the release with no extra effort...
[09:52] <md_5> eagles0513875_: They are normally a bit late
[09:53] <md_5> ActionParsnip: yeah I used beta 2
[09:53] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: im doing that for my friend that way he wont have to deal with bogged down servers tomorrow
[09:53] <md_5> sadly I am switching my laptop over and it doesnt --really-- support ubuntu
[09:53] <md_5> It will be my 3rd ubuntu pc though :)
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> indeedy. Could set up ad apt-cacher server and set that as your upgrade server if you have lots of ubuntu systems :)
[09:54] <md_5> I run my server on debian, ubuntu server is too bloated for me
[09:54] <md_5> <3 sid
[09:55] <eagles0513875_> md_5: bloated how
[09:55] <md_5> too much stuff installed by default
[09:55] <md_5> *way
[09:55] <eagles0513875_> well thin it out
[09:55] <eagles0513875_> hehe thats the beauty of it all
[09:55] <eagles0513875_> wait for server that isnt true
[09:55] <eagles0513875_> when you install it gives you a list of what you can install server wise
[09:55] <md_5> whereas a clean debian (netinst base system only) idles at about 20mb ram on first boot
[09:56] <md_5> The only extra stuff I really need to install is bash-completion and screen
[09:56] <sk1special> yeah no.
[09:56] <eagles0513875_> md_5: on ubuntu server you can by pass installing anything
[09:56] <md_5> the base system is still a lot bigger
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> md_5: use ubuntu minimal, its pretty slim
[09:57] <sk1special> killed the second monitor. said display settings dont work / cant be detected.. and it resized my other monitor only 800 x 600 or 1200x something below the 14-00 x something it was
[09:57] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: i can vouch for that
[09:57] <eagles0513875_> i got a vps with linode md_5 and that too was ideling on a very fresh clean install at about 25 mb of ram
[09:57] <md_5> It still won't be slimmer than minimal debian last ubuntu-server I used was 10.04 iirc
[09:57] <md_5> no 10.10 I think
[09:58] <eagles0513875_> even my 2 linodes with their respective servers havent even reach their max 512mb of ram which has me impressed  :D
[09:58] <sk1special> 1024x768 and i think it was 1400 x something before
[09:58] <Bennlucky7> yay!
[09:58] <md_5> anyone know the exact side effects of noapic   this will be my first laptop install
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> md_5: considering its probably installed on several Tbs of space, who cares about a few extra Mb in server OS install space....
[09:59] <eagles0513875_> md_5: most laptops i have installed ubuntu on have had no issues working with acpi stuff
[09:59] <Bennlucky7> noapic = low grapic mode
[09:59] <md_5> eagles0513875_:  I am talking about apic not acpi
[09:59] <eagles0513875_> oh oops my bad i thought that was a typo on your part md_5
[10:00] <md_5> nope
[10:00]  * eagles0513875_ shuts up and retreats to his server upgrade
[10:00] <md_5> I can make it boot with acpi=off but that kills power management
[10:00] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: i wish upstream debian would get the whole mysql 5.1 vs 5.5 in repos issue sorted out
[10:00] <md_5> whereas noapic  still allows power management and everything afaik
[10:00] <eagles0513875_> would be nice to have mysql 5.5 in the repos
[10:00] <md_5> agreed
[10:00] <Artemis3> md_5, ubuntu minimal (command line) is not good?
[10:00] <eagles0513875_> seeing as the InnoDB engine has major performance enhancements
[10:01] <md_5> Artemis3: I only use the command line....
[10:01] <Artemis3> md_5, i mean using the ubuntu minimal with the "command line" option (pretty much like debian netinst)
[10:02] <md_5> I didn't try that, when I used ubuntu-server I just did a normal install with nothing but ssh in tasksel
[10:02] <Artemis3> md_5, instead of ubuntu server
[10:03] <Artemis3> md_5, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[10:03] <md_5> there isnt a hell of a lot of difference  considering I have only 586 packages
[10:03]  * md_5 chose the wrong place to compare debian minimal to ubuntu server
[10:04] <eagles0513875_> lol
[10:04]  * eagles0513875_ pats md_5 on the head there there :P
[10:05] <Deathvalley122> I wish ubuntu had a netinstall they use to
[10:05] <sk1special> no suggestions
[10:05] <md_5> whats the other command to get ubuntu relase....
[10:05] <sk1special> ?*
[10:06] <sobersabre> hi.
[10:06] <eagles0513875_> Deathvalley122: minimal is like a net install
[10:06] <md_5> not uname, the other one
[10:06] <eagles0513875_> md_5: do you mean upgrading form one release to another
[10:06] <Artemis3> ubuntu minimal is a netinstall, a 22mb iso doesn't have any packages
[10:06] <Deathvalley122> I know eagles0513875_
[10:06] <Deathvalley122> but I am saying
[10:06] <eagles0513875_> md_5: lsb_release -a
[10:06] <sobersabre> Are there many updates expected until 26th in April if my precise system is up-to-date as of now ?
[10:06] <Deathvalley122> you won't find one anywhere for ubuntu
[10:06] <md_5> thanks eagles0513875_
[10:06] <Deathvalley122> I have looked
[10:06] <eagles0513875_> Deathvalley122: MINIMAL CD
[10:07] <md_5> I should set up a bnc here, except I would only have like 3 channels (I have ~45 on esper) ;p
[10:07] <Artemis3> Deathvalley122, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[10:07] <md_5> any sort of live countdown to the relase?
[10:08] <Deathvalley122> ok
[10:08] <md_5> and I dont mean the one dya thing
[10:08] <md_5> *day
[10:08] <Deathvalley122> bookmarked that
[10:08] <Deathvalley122> lol
[10:08] <Artemis3> bingo, i has md5sums ;) bwahahaha
[10:09] <md_5> echo md_5 | md5sum 7e9ea88c95cedeb6c57b55920c9da596  -
[10:10] <Bennlucky7> i wonder  if there is diffrent berween update from beta or new install 12.04
[10:10] <Bennlucky7> ??
[10:10] <Artemis3> just update and you will be fine
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Bennlucky7: none
[10:10] <Bennlucky7> nice
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Bennlucky7: you will be using the same packae sources
[10:11]  * md_5 should learn to use vim properly
[10:11] <Artemis3> cool, images are coming nicely
[10:11] <md_5> <3 nano
[10:11] <Bennlucky7> O:-)
[10:12] <md_5> sorry what images Artemis3
[10:13] <Artemis3> read between lines, they hate it when i talk about it ;) only those in the know, know... its an old ritual of releases.
[10:13] <md_5> screw this web client
[10:13]  * md_5 goes back to xchat
[10:14] <Bennlucky7> lol
[10:14] <Artemis3> well this means the blessing is done, finally, or whatever... nightmare with the nvidia issues :(
[10:14] <sk1special> okay. got the screen resolution and all fixed by installing recommended driver. still does not see my second monitor
[10:15] <md_5> this is a bit nicer
[10:20] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[10:20] <md_5> lol hey
[10:21] <sk1special> no love?
[10:22] <Bennlucky7> no love no cry
[10:22] <sk1special> cry long time.
[10:23] <Bennlucky7> :-S
[10:23] <sk1special> dont know what i need to do to get my second monitor real again?
[10:23] <Schrodinger`Cat> i would like to know if Xubuntu 12.04 work in your computer to have keyboard-shrortcut, since i had installed 12.04 keyboard shortcut dont work
[10:23] <Schrodinger`Cat> :)
[10:23] <Schrodinger`Cat> :/
[10:24] <Bennlucky7> sk1special: wht happen abt ur 2nd mntor?
[10:25] <Bennlucky7> i have 4 monitors a.k.a workspace lol
[10:26] <sk1special> ah. ight. so when i started up my comp..is had a blank horizontal line filled screen for a few secs..and said no 3d support. so used the suggested driver to update one time..and tried the linux driver the second..the suggested driver works fine. except for  making my second monitor not real. and the linux one takes away my screen resolution option..and takes away 2nd monitor
[10:27] <md_5> anyone had experience with mouse back / forward buttons working out the box?
[10:27] <sk1special> with all the driver updates off..they both work..and have screen resolution options. but with drivers enabled..enables 3d..and disables second monitor
[10:28] <Bennlucky7> im using ati dont know aby nvdia
[10:28] <sk1special> ..... :"'''[
[10:31] <Bennlucky7> keep trying in google sk1specoal
[10:31] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: what you pastebinned me still isnt working
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> md_5: don't ask in both channels
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875_: I suggest you report a bug then
[10:32] <sk1special> yeah. google just says to download the other thing i  allready did.
[10:33] <eagles0513875_> ActionParsnip: before i do im going to try an incremental upgrade
[10:33] <Bennlucky7> sk1special: then u shld ask ubuntu forum, many experience users i hope will help u there
[10:34] <xranby> sk1special: the nvidia drivers usually have its own configuration tool
[10:35] <xranby> /usr/bin/nvidia-settings
[10:39] <sk1special> how do i find all my apps? like the command prompt/ skype/ whatever else i installed?
[10:41] <sk1special> mmk got it .sorry first time using linux as of last night
[10:41] <sk1special> the apps*
[10:42] <xranby> sk1special: i assume you are using the unity interface:   open the ubuntu menu , select applications and then click next to the installed applications on the line show additional 145.. results
[10:44] <sk1special> yeah i found it through the dash home button. thank you tho. and that command line worked i believe. brought up the menu and let me reenable the second monitor. restarting now to test it
[10:44] <Bennlucky7> sk1special: dash home and choose application
[10:49] <sk1special> okay..that...sortve worked. now my second monitor is a very bright grey screen.
[10:50] <sk1special> and the mouse shows up as a z
[10:50] <sk1special> x*
[10:50] <sk1special> and i cant do anything with it. but at least its greay and not off..
[10:51] <Bennlucky7> its a progress O:-)
[10:52] <sk1special> lmao. y eah..one day ill even be able to install that badass 3d matrix desktop
[10:53] <Bennlucky7> ^^
[10:55] <Bennlucky7> thats the art of ubuntu ,, u keep tryng until u can
[10:55] <sk1special> hmm. the graphics card is showing both displays.
[10:55] <sk1special> but the display menu in the systems settings still only shows the one
[10:56] <xranby> sk1special: thats normal, the nvidia do not support full integration with the ubuntu desktop
[10:56] <sk1special> so how do i get it to show up? right now the other screen is just a grey light..with no drivers installed they both work fine..but i have no 3d capability without the drivers
[10:57] <Bennlucky7> is there an app for the driver? like my ati (catalys control center) maybe u can edit the setting there
[10:58] <xranby> sk1special: right now you are asking the community, well..  we can only improe the default ubuntu driver
[10:58] <sk1special> thats what im using right now basically thanks to xranby..its how i enabled it..but even tho it sees it and lets me change settings..nothings actually showing up
[10:58] <xranby> but unfortunally we do not have full specification on how the 3d part of the graphics card work
[10:59] <Bennlucky7> my ati works fine with catalyst 12.3
[10:59] <sk1special> ah yeah. i just find it funny that the regualr picture shows up with no drivers intsalled. but once theyre installed ( and able to do 3d ) the second monitor dies
[10:59] <xranby> sk1special: nvidia are sitting on the knowledge how their card work, unless they start to release sourcecode or documentation we will not be able to deliver an optimal solution
[10:59] <Artemis3> i suggest ppl running 12.04 update now, before official announcement when mirrors die worldwide~~~
[10:59] <sk1special> yeah i hear you
[11:00] <sk1special> do you have to reinstall completely for that or can you just update?
[11:00] <Artemis3> just update
[11:02] <Bennlucky7> Artemis3:  no update i check it
[11:02] <Artemis3> then its fine
[11:03] <Artemis3> you are probably in sync with cd images
[11:03] <sk1special> how do you check for updates? didnt see anything on the site but i thought the *offical release version * was coming out sometime soon?
[11:03] <Artemis3> you could alt f2 then type update-manager
[11:04] <Artemis3> i think there is a pretty icon somewhere but anyhow
[11:04] <sk1special> lol yeah some cogs...now i just have to get it to let me click it..,
[11:05] <Bennlucky7> synaptic manager and find update
[11:07] <sk1special> got it. last update one hour ago. sall good.
[11:10] <sk1special> do you guys know why when i go to start up says its starting without full network configuration?
[11:13] <sk1special> brb
[11:14] <Bennlucky7> maybe ip adress or dns configuration
[11:19] <sk1special> thats so weird. having just the generic driver gets me dual screen. having the linux driver gets me one screen with different resolution. and having the nvidia driver gets me one real screen and the logon load screen. but no dual.
[11:22] <Bennlucky7> thats the experience :-D
[11:24] <_bt> anyone successfully using libpam-pwdfile on precise?
[11:25] <_bt> i am getting "wrong password for user xxx" no matter what
[11:25] <sk1special> apparently.. wtf just happened. everything looks.. like oppisite colors like its hightlighted text almost. and theres a ghost menu bar at the top now..and a couple of my icons disappeared even tho the name still shows up
[11:26] <v1Ns> is there an app  to  control  permissions ?   in 12.04
[11:26] <xranby> sk1special: using the nvidia driver?
[11:26] <v1Ns> i cant find one
[11:26] <v1Ns> user account   app  doesnt...
[11:26] <sk1special> no i turned it off so that i could have dual monitors..couldnt get the desktop to actually show up on the second with it on
[11:27] <sk1special> and it was just the theme..guess i hit something and switched it to inverse
[11:27] <xranby> possibly
[11:27] <xranby> there is a high contrast theme with inverted colors
[11:27] <v1Ns> also   a  caplock indicator   would be great  im  using   a wireless keyboard   it as no lightts on it
[11:28] <v1Ns> n y way   xubuntu is better
[11:28] <sk1special> yeah. i switched it back tho. i still want to know how the default driver loads dual screen. but the linux driver specifically doesnt lol
[11:29] <sk1special> it came up. but it would only be a solid grey screen.
[11:37] <sk1special> trying to change background/screen saver to a matrix one..that i saw online can be found in xscreensaver. but when i try to open it says gnome-screensaver is allready running..
[11:39] <Bennlucky7> u shld delete gnow screen first
[11:40] <Bennlucky7> and add setting in startup
[11:42] <sk1special> how do i do that?
[11:45] <Bennlucky7> sudo apt-get remove gnome-screensaver
[11:46] <Bennlucky7> u can reintall it later from soft center if u wan
[11:46] <sk1special> after i remove it  run xsceensaver and itll let me choose which i want?
[11:47] <Bennlucky7> and add command xscreensaver -nosplash in startup menu so when u restart xscreensaver will run
[11:48] <Bennlucky7> system -> start-up app
[11:52] <sk1special> mmk lets see if that worked
[11:58] <sk1special> nope..i added that command to the start up..but nothing came up besides normal password
[12:17] <Xunil> Hi everyone, I got the following problem: LibreOffice word is often making my whole system somehow "crash": while I am able to move the mouse, I cannot click on anything etc.
[12:20] <chmac> Xunil: You fully up to date?
[12:20] <chmac> Xunil: Specific document causing the issue, or a specific filetype, or any document?
[12:21] <Xunil> chmac: no specific document, but strangely it often occurs in documents containing (nearly) no formulas, has not yet appeared in documents with many formulas
[12:21] <Xunil> (maybe "large" amount of text could be the cause)
[12:21] <Xunil> I will see if I am fully up to date
[12:22] <Xunil> nope, not up to date, but libreoffice cannot be updated
[12:32] <mhall119> the archives seem to be getting hammered already
[12:53] <BluesKaj> been searching launchpad for segfault fixes for kmail . but no fixes yet ..hope things change tomorrow
[13:10] <GG111> greetings all, so, I can download 12.04 as beta, and then just apt-get update my way to 12.04 alpha
[13:10] <GG111> ?
[13:11] <Pici> GG111: if by alpha you mean final, then yes.
[13:11] <Pici> !final
[13:12] <GG111> Pici: I see, b/c usually dist-upgrades brake the sound on  my system, do you happen to know if it will require a dist-upgrade, or just an apt-get update ?
[13:13] <GG111> sorry, apt-get upgrade
[13:13] <Pici> GG111: It completely depends on what sort of updates are presented.
[13:13] <GG111> I see.
[13:14] <GG111> Pici: and the official release date is for tomorrow, isn't it ?
[13:14] <Pici> GG111: Yes.
[13:14] <GG111> cool.
[13:15] <vega-> dist-upgrade, upgrade .. neither of them upgrades the distro to a newer release
[13:15] <vega-> unless you change your sources.list, which is not the recommended way to upgrade
[13:15] <GG111> I must say, ubuntu really wipes the floor with Fedora, espically with the LTS option.
[13:15] <GG111> vega, I did dist-upgrade and fro 11.04 , my system tells my that I'm at 11.10, am I not really there ?
[13:16] <vega-> dist-upgrade = ?
[13:17] <Pici> !dist-ugprade
[13:17] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[13:17] <GG111> "do dist-upgrade"
[13:17] <Pici> spelling :(
[13:17] <Pici> do-release-upgrade != dist-upgrade
[13:17] <vega-> exactly
[13:18] <vega-> there is no "do dist-upgrade" command..
[13:18] <vega-> there is apt-get dist-upgrade and do-release-upgrade which are completely different
[13:18] <GG111> do-release-upgrade, true.
[13:18] <GG111> so a do-release-upgrade does take one release higher ?
[13:18] <vega-> yes
[13:19] <GG111> cool, I just had the commands wrong.
[13:19] <GG111> what happend is that after upgrading to 11.10 my pc speaker is not working, how wonder why..
[13:20] <vega-> although do-release-upgrade is mainly for server version iirc..
[13:20] <Pici> vega-: its just the cli version of update-manager. I prefer to use it on all my systems though.
[13:20] <GG111> it worked with desktop as well.
[13:20] <vega-> Pici: ok
[13:20] <BluesKaj> vega-, nope it's for desktops too
[13:22] <BluesKaj> and even laptops :)
[13:29] <Xunil> Ok, and I got an additional question: (How) is it possible in abiword to define custom named styles for characters?
[13:32] <rawhite> hello
[13:32] <rawhite> since i installed Ubuntu 12.04 and upgraded packages now my libvirtd wont work as used to before
[13:32] <rawhite> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/587049/ this is the error message i get when i try to create a new KVM machine with virt-manager connected to libvirtd
[13:32] <rawhite> it can connect but i dont see my old machines there nor i cant create any new ones
[13:44] <viktor_> hi ..anyone with Xubuntu 12.04. ?
[13:45] <rfm> viktor_: I've been running it in a VirtualBox VM
[13:47] <viktor_> are there any significant changes ? Im supposed to work on my laptop on exams, running Xubuntu, so I dont know If I should upgrade tomorrow ..
[13:47] <Mugatu> Hi all - just curious, will there be canonical published AMIs for 12.04 @ ec2 on release date?  Or do they lag somewhat?
[13:48] <rfm> viktor_: changes from what?  I never ran any earlier version....
[13:49] <viktor_> Im using 11.10 ... its OK and stable, but 12.04 is presented as LTS, so ..
[13:50] <rawhite> its some problem with apparmor with libvirt :(
[13:50] <rawhite> ufff
[13:52] <narsil4> I have this problem on 12.04 LTS daily build from yesterday. Is there a fix? http://askubuntu.com/questions/71928/terminal-randomly-disappears-from-alt-tab-list-unity-launcher
[13:53] <rfm> viktor_: LTS means they promise not to stop shipping updates for longer, it still has changes.  they do try to limit the risk somewhat, mainly by moving the change gate back so things are well tested in the alpha/beta cycle.  I haven't had any problems.  Can I, or anybody else, guarantee you won't?  No.
[13:55] <viktor_> I know what LTS stands for ... still thanks for your useless answer :)
[14:00] <_k2s_> hi all! i have a problem i was setting up a ftp server on my ubuntu 12.04 and i have accidentally put my user in a group called ftpusers and now it is not a sudoer... I have no root password set to easily change this. What could i do to make my user a sudoer again?
[14:02] <atrus> _k2s_: you'll probably need to boot a rescue disk.
[14:03] <_k2s_> hmm yeah i'm afraid so, i'm locked out of my own system..
[14:03] <fishcooker> counting down..
[14:04] <fishcooker> coming soon
[14:04] <bazhang> !party
[14:04] <fishcooker> hail the party
[14:04] <fishcooker> #ubuntu-release-party
[14:05] <_k2s_> ok i'm out will try the rescue disk thnx for the help
[14:06] <Wizor> !release
[14:08] <inashdeen> hi there, need a help. I am using ubuntu 12.04 right now.my ubuntu does not seem to detect my usb modem (zte mf180) .the option to enable mobile broadband is not present. when i click edit connections > mobile broadband > add, it does not seem to find my modem. what steps should i do to diagnose the problem?
[14:14] <nitzs> so 12.04 out on the mirrors yet?
[14:14] <bazhang> nitzs, join the countdown at the party
[14:14] <bazhang> !party | nitzs
[14:15] <inashdeen_> hi there, my usb modem cannot be detected by network manager on ubuntu 12.04. it was detected previously, but when i installed a program from etisalat to check my SMS, its lost. i can connect to the net using wvdial, using the etisalat program and sakis 3g, but not with the default ubuntu connection. please tell me step by step to diagnose the problem
[14:18] <inashdeen_> bump
[14:22] <AaronCampbell> Since the upgrade to 12.04 no items are on my desktop.  They're still in ~/Desktop, but they don't show on any desktops in any workspace.  What changed?
[14:23] <samster34> hey..I don't suppose anyone has sublimeclang working for sublime text 2 on ubuntu 12,04?
[14:23] <narsil4> Does anyone else have no terminal in the alt-tab list for 12.04?
[14:24] <samster34> narsil4: somoetimes I d o, sometimes I don't
[14:24] <narsil4> yeah I coulda sworn it was there an hour ago
[14:24] <narsil4> but I figured I was crazy
[14:24] <samster34> gnome-terminal works, then after I started it like that, it sometimes shows up as just Terminal as well
[14:24] <narsil4> which I am anyway
[14:25] <narsil4> It's a real hassle because the "show desktop" icon looks like a terminal, and I keep selecting it.
[14:25] <narsil4> Can I at least get rid of "show desktop"?
[14:26] <narsil4> I would never use it.
[14:26] <narsil4> willingly
[14:26] <samster34> what is this show desktop
[14:26] <samster34> I don't see it
[14:27] <narsil4> When I hit alt-tab, the leftmost icon is a picture of the background called "show desktop". When I select it, all windows disappear.
[14:27] <snadge> possibly classic gnome interface
[14:28] <snadge> ahh that
[14:28] <samster34> oh, right
[14:28] <narsil4> So about 20 times I've wanted the terminal, only to get all windows disappeared.
[14:29] <narsil4> It's really devious because there's a white line across the top of the icon, making it NOT look like the desktop and like a terminal instead.
[14:32] <inashdeen_> hello :(
[14:33] <caravel> Hi again. Is there any doc about kernel upgrades on LiveUSB in persistent mode (made from the beta2 LiveCD creation tool) ? Is it achievable without post-editing casper-rw ?
[14:33] <caravel> Things got better :
[14:34] <caravel> Apt-get upgrade / dist-upgrade do complete, to the exception of kernel packages, still
[14:34] <caravel> And in /casper , initrd is no longer overwritten but placed alongside as .new
[14:35] <caravel> vmlimuz remains untouched, while now in casper-rw boot contain complete file set
[14:36] <caravel> s/kernel/\1 -related/
[14:36] <samster34> followed the istructions here to get this sublime text 2 plugin working, but I get no indication of it working, but no error messages eiter :/https://github.com/quarnster/SublimeClang
[14:38] <samster34> the described workaround does not seem to do anything
[14:43] <bcuraboy> hi.need some installin win xp on virtualbox using ubuntu 12.04
[14:43] <bcuraboy> need the usb ports enabled
[14:44] <kanliot> huh?
[14:46] <bcuraboy> didn't get it?
[14:47] <kanliot> no i don't get it
[14:48] <bcuraboy> i wanna run win xp in a virtual machine and letting the usb ports enabled so i can run some school software of my daughter,that came in a usb pen
[14:49] <kanliot> use vbox to download the usb module
[14:49] <kanliot> well i think you download it from the web
[14:49] <bcuraboy> yes
[14:49] <kanliot> then use vbox to install the gz
[14:50] <bcuraboy> how's that done?
[14:50] <kanliot> do what?
[14:51] <f0x> will be released samoa time?
[14:52] <bcuraboy> install the gz
[14:52] <BluesKaj> 12minight UTC ?
[14:52] <kanliot> open your vm, go to devices menu, install guest additions
[14:57] <topyli> f0x: yes, it will be some time in samoa too, at the moment of release
[14:57] <f0x> ;))
[14:57] <f0x> i asked before last years the releaased at 12 midnight samoa time
[15:01] <BluesKaj> f0x, didn't samoa change their dateline time to sync up with australia , where mosy of theor business is done ?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> tmost of their business
[15:02] <f0x> 4:02am Thursday (WST) - Time in Samoa
[15:02] <f0x> 1:02am Thursday (EST) - Time in Canberra ACT, Australia
[15:02] <f0x> Kingston		2:32am				NFT
[15:02] <f0x> Lord Howe Island		1:32am				LHST
[15:02] <f0x> Adelaide		12:32am				CST
[15:02] <f0x> Perth		11:02pm		 -1 day		WST
[15:02] <f0x> The Settlement		10:02pm		 -1 day		CXT
[15:02] <f0x> they didn/t
[15:03] <thiebaude> When i have partial updates what should i do?
[15:04] <topyli> thiebaude: it means that in order to install updates, apt will have to install additional packages or remove existing ones. which means you should tread carefully
[15:04] <thiebaude> ok i'll what til things are sorted out, thanks
[15:05] <topyli> they might never be, on a beta. just make sure it doesn't remove something like glibc :)
[15:05] <thiebaude> i had to do dpkg last night, but everything is ok now
[15:05] <thiebaude> topyli, yep, anything important
[15:05] <topyli> yes
[15:06] <topyli> usually it just wants to remove some old libraries that an upgrade conflicts with, and install another
[15:07] <thiebaude> oh ok i understand now, been using ubuntu since 6.06 and never really understood that :)
[15:07] <topyli> but if it wants to remove init, things may be a tad broken
[15:07] <thiebaude> topyli, could not get on the desktop last night
[15:07] <topyli> try the upgrade with apt, it's a lot more verbose and clear about this stuff
[15:08] <thiebaude> i had to do a ctrl alt f2
[15:09] <topyli> first run 'apt-get upgrade' and you'll see that some packages will not be upgraded. cancel that. run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and you'll see what would be removed and/or installed. at this point, take your hands OFF the keyboard and consider what to do
[15:09] <thiebaude> ok thanks
[15:10] <thiebaude> ok, some packages are kept back
[15:10] <Travis-42> I'm trying to use apport-cli to report some information about a bug in 12.04. It asks me to "Please choose (1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/C):" but if I try to try in 12, it jumps to the next question after pressing 1. any ideas?
[15:11] <topyli> yeah, likely
[15:11] <thierry_> hi everyone, i have made a dumb error , and now my sestem is down, i tried to upgrade my 10.04 to 12.94 with update-manager when finishing it indicated where do you want to install grub2, i selected my linux partition , and now, i have no longer access to either windows or ubuntu, grub indicates, grub_xputs is not found i think
[15:12] <thiebaude> i thought you could only do incremental upgrades, ex11.04 to 11.10
[15:12] <thiebaude> and so on
[15:12] <topyli> thiebaude: LTS to LTS is supported, 10.04 is lts
[15:13] <thiebaude> ok my bad i forgot
[15:14] <topyli> thierry_: you can grab an ubuntu live cd and fix grub
[15:14] <thierry_> topyli: can you please help how to? i'm booting on a 10.04 live cd right now
[15:15] <topyli> thierry_: same process as here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:15] <topyli> it's not a big deal, your system is fine
[15:15] <thierry_> topyli: but why can't i access windows?
[15:16] <topyli> thierry_: you have no master boot record at all i suppose, so nothing will boot
[15:16] <topyli> but a live cd or usb stick will
[15:17] <thierry_> i hope i'm not scrwed , i have allllllll of my work and software on both windows and linux
[15:17] <topyli> no it should be just fine
[15:18] <thierry_> thanks :) i have tears in my eyes ;D
[15:18] <thierry_> so after that, i will return to 10.04 or 12.04?
[15:19] <topyli> it should boot to 12.04
[15:20] <topyli> thierry_: the upgrade went ok otherwise i assume?
[15:22] <topyli> thierry_: oh but your 10.04 livecd will install the legacy grub1
[15:23] <topyli> not sure if it matters, but a newer one might be better
[15:25] <BluesKaj> topyli, thiebaude no it should install grub2
[15:26] <BluesKaj> oops thierry left
[15:27] <topyli> BluesKaj: ok, i forget when we changed :)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> it was 9.10 topyli
[15:28] <topyli> ah ok
[15:31] <Promethes> hi, how to upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 today? i tried sudo do-release-upgrade -f kde -d without any success
[15:33] <natman> is kubuntu officially released tomorrow ( thurs 26/4 )?
[15:34] <bazhang> yes
[15:34] <natman> does anyone know if they will maintain the 6 month cycle?
[15:34] <bazhang> they will for now
[15:35] <natman> cool, thx hope they keep it
[15:37] <thierry_> hi everyone again, i used boot-reparir to restore my grub after migrating from 10.04 to 12.04 , but now , if i select ubuntu on the main menu, it blocks on a purple screen, and if i check recovery mode, i get , please append a correct "root=" to boot ... kernel panic not sync vas : unable to mount root rf on unknown-block
[15:39] <topyli> thierry_: ok, it can't find root. can you still remember what it was, from when you checked the fdisk output
[15:39] <topyli> ?
[15:40] <thierry_> it's on sda4
[15:40] <topyli> (because if you can boot to your system, you can grub-install from there and it will more surely get it right)
[15:40] <thierry_> topyli:  that's where it's looking for
[15:41] <topyli> grr
[15:41] <thierry_> thierry_: so is there any solutions :/
[15:42] <topyli> perhaps you could boot the live cd, chroot to your current root partition, and then run grub-install
[15:42] <SafariMonkey> Is there any standard page listing all (current) unity lenses?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> we have another guy trying to upgrade to 12.04 from 11.10 , but do-release-upgrade -d doesn't do anything ...anyone know what that fix is ?
[15:42] <thierry_> topyli: i have a 10.04 live cd, i can't chroot on 12.04?
[15:43] <topyli> thierry_: no idea. hard to say. maybe! :)
[15:43] <thierry_> hope to , i'm on it
[15:44] <SafariMonkey> anyone?
[15:47] <rfm> thierry_: one thing to try is fsck that 12.04 root partition while the livecd is booted, just to make sure everything's clean.  I might even reinstall grub after that, especially if any errors were found.
[15:50] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[15:51] <thierry_> topyli: could u please tell me what are the option for grub-install command?? :) :)
[15:52] <topyli> thierry_: i think it's just 'grub-install hda'
[15:52] <Schrodinger`Cat> if i download today 12.04 beta2 and tomorrow upgrade to the 12.04 stable , that will be faster than upgrade an 11.10 to 12.04 ? there will be only final correction of bugs ? (i apologize for my eglish)
[15:52] <thierry_> ok i'll try :) :) thanks
[15:53] <topyli> Schrodinger`Cat: yes it'll be faster. howerver, today is already a busy day as well :)
[15:53] <spaceneedle> I'm going to try and install user theme extension and see if gnome-tweak-tool will open up. Hope it does as I'm dying to install themes for gnome shell.
[15:53] <topyli> spaceneedle: just go to extensions.gnome.org
[15:53] <Schrodinger`Cat> ok topyli
[15:54] <SafariMonkey> If I am asking in the wrong place, please tell me, but not answering is not helpful at all. :/
[15:55] <natman> SafariMonkey: i know of any page
[15:55] <topyli> SafariMonkey: looks like nobody knows. maybe there isn't one
[15:55] <natman> SafariMonkey: since this is not a 12.04 issue per say, maybe try #ubuntu ?
[15:55] <holstein> SafariMonkey: check the wiki's
[15:56] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses for example
[15:56] <SafariMonkey> topyli: thanks. I realise no answer sometimes means no-one knows, but sometimes people just ignore it in favour of flow of conversation.
[15:57] <SafariMonkey> holstein: thanks.
[15:58] <SafariMonkey> natman: sorry, lenses I wasn't sure where to ask about.
[15:59] <SafariMonkey> and would it be worth making a page on the wiki?
[15:59] <holstein> SafariMonkey: you can check the /topic of channels...
[15:59] <holstein> SafariMonkey: if you are looking, others might be too... though i feel there is wiki overload in most cases
[16:00] <spaceneedle> Nope. The user theme extension causes gnome-tweak-tool to not open up. The words "gnome-tweak-tool" appear on the top bar but nothing else. Apport sent a report. Hope it helps.
[16:00] <thierry_> :D
[16:00] <thierry_> topyli: is it necessary to do apt-get install grub-pc??? because i had problems with grub 2
[16:01]  * caravel bbl
[16:01] <SafariMonkey> part of the problem is that having no complete (or large) list relies on searching at random and looking through reviews.
[16:01] <topyli> thierry_: grub-pc is grub2. grub-legacy is, uh, the legacy grub
[16:02] <holstein> SafariMonkey: or finding the proper support channel, which is #ubuntu at this point for your query
[16:03] <SafariMonkey> holstein: thanks, have moved to #ubuntu
[16:03] <topyli> thierry_: actually, i don't know anymore. grub-legacy is not available for precise :\
[16:10] <jtrucks> so what package is php5 json stuff in? is that in php5-common then?
[16:17] <elijah> Is it possible to disable the second menu when using a second monitor?
[16:19] <elijah> The pause the mouse has when transversing between screens is highly aggravating. I have sped up the mouse controls and that helps greatly but I have to remember to move fast enough to avoid the grab the menu makes for my mouse. Reducing the sensitivity of the menu grab would probably be ideal.
[16:20] <Arnold> Hello, I have a Canon PIXMA MP250 printer, and I tried to print a certain image. However, the printer seems to be detected and it does sends the information on what to print, but after that, it says job completed, and the printer stalls.
[16:20] <Arnold> When I try to print all over again, it says "Rendering completed" as status of the printer.
[16:23] <impi> heya guys, have anyone here upgraded from 10.04 desktop to 12.04?
[16:23] <savr> o.0
[16:24] <SafariMonkey> guys, he was directed here from ubuntu for asking that question. :P
[16:24] <bazhang> SafariMonkey, as he should be
[16:24] <savr> anything new in 12.10 right now? or just broken packages that I shouldn't mess with
[16:25] <bazhang> savr, 12.10 is not in existence
[16:25] <savr> :O
[16:25] <savr> there is no rolling development branch?
[16:25] <bazhang> savr, they have to actually release 12.04 first
[16:25] <SafariMonkey> bazhang: I was clarifying the reason for such a strange question.
[16:25] <bazhang> savr, this is not arch, so no
[16:26] <savr> debian has rolling development branches
[16:26] <savr> and fixed stable
[16:26] <bazhang> impi, lts to lts once 12.04 has been released
[16:26] <bazhang> savr, and ubuntu is not debain
[16:26] <Guest45559> hey all
[16:27] <savr> ok...
[16:27] <Guest45559> nice to meet u all
[16:27] <Guest45559> when precise pangoline final released?
[16:27] <savr> I remember when Mark emailed the debian mailing list
[16:27] <rfm> and back when I used debian upgrades from some release years ago to the current testing state were not always smooth....
[16:27] <SafariMonkey> Guest45559: hello No
[16:28] <savr> I remember debian 2.1 upgrading to 3 on dial up
[16:28] <bazhang> Guest45559, some time on 4/26
[16:28] <SafariMonkey> so tomorrow
[16:28] <savr> took like 2 weeks
[16:28] <Guest45559> precise final whene released?
[16:28] <savr> and I got broadband like 3 days after it finished
[16:28] <bazhang> Guest45559, I just told you
[16:28] <holstein> !outyet | Guest45559
[16:30] <Guest45559> anione in here which OS u use?
[16:30] <savr> ubuntu!
[16:30] <bazhang> Guest45559, ubuntu
[16:30] <ssfdre38> 12.04 Beta 2
[16:30] <bazhang> Guest45559, did you have any actual support issues?
[16:31] <savr> I went dos > windows 95 > 98 > debian 2.1 > 3> ... > ubuntu > os x 10.4 > .5 > .6 > ubuntu 12.04
[16:31] <savr> couldn't be happier to be back in linux
[16:31] <savr> the world I understand
[16:31] <Guest45559> me too.... i wait for the final release.... i do daily upgrade....
[16:32] <bazhang> !final | Guest45559
[16:32] <Guest45559> ask, the different both sudo apt0get upgrade with sudo apt-get dist upgrade?
[16:33] <bazhang> yes
[16:33] <savr> some things bug me about the UI and linux consumer hardware support is still not 100%
[16:33] <savr> but I love the UI
[16:33] <savr> on my laptop at least
[16:34] <savr> haven't had a desktop in years
[16:35] <SafariMonkey> I wasn't sure how it works. If i upgrade a computer now to the beta, will everything be downloaded tomorrow or just updates?
[16:35] <mcdonc> updates
[16:35] <SafariMonkey> cool. :)
[16:36] <bazhang> you'll be on final, but early
[16:37] <savr> why do I like the way unity managed windows?
[16:37] <savr> apps today all have tabs
[16:38] <savr> I want to maximise the space I have for apps and tabs
[16:38] <savr> unity is the best at that
[16:39] <Gamoder> hmm - I don't really like unity for that: it doesn't respect the "always on top"-thing
[16:40] <savr> what do you want always on top?
[16:40] <savr> always on top works here
[16:40] <Gamoder> LibreOffice, in my case
[16:40] <savr> on top of?
[16:40] <Gamoder> I got two LibreOffice-windows and want that one is on top of the other: doesn't work
[16:41] <ssfdre38> i like KDE better
[16:41] <Gamoder> and additionally, even windows I want to be on top disappear sometimes (e.g. the formatting-window disappears if I click on another libreoffice-window)
[16:41] <savr> that sounds like a bug
[16:41] <savr> and why don't you use side by side?
[16:41] <savr> interesting
[16:42] <savr> I hope you file bugs
[16:42] <Gamoder> because using that, I can "hide" unnecessary toolbars/menu bars/title bars
[16:42] <savr> I use chrome a lot
[16:42] <savr> and unity is great for chrome
[16:42] <Gamoder> well - since I more or less only use xfce where I do not have this problem ... not now, sorry
[16:44] <Arnold> I still can't get the printer to work. Only printing the test page worked so far. But I can't print any image, whether I printed it from Shotwell, or Image Viewer (Eog) or even in Evince as PDF, it didn't start the actual printing procedure.
[16:45] <Guest45559> where is channel backtracker
[16:46] <EvilResistance> i know the "Is it out yet" questions arent allowed, but is Precise release still on track for 4/26/2012?
[16:46] <elijah> Is anyone using dual monitors on 12.04?
[16:46] <Arnold> Hmm, it seems that I can't print in grayscale so far.
[16:46] <JohnTeddy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.iso
[16:47] <JohnTeddy> Can I use disk encryption with this image^?
[16:47] <JohnTeddy> I don't see the alternative anywhere.
[16:47] <elijah> The pause I am having when switching between them is driving me crazy. The menu on the secondary monitor keeps grabbing my mouse.
[16:51] <JohnTeddy> Do the alternative images not exist anymore?
[16:51] <Pici> JohnTeddy: They do.
[16:51] <holstein> JohnTeddy: some have them, and some dont.. i think most do
[16:52] <holstein> you can always get a server iso
[16:53] <JohnTeddy> There is no alt image on the daily link.
[16:53] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[16:54] <JohnTeddy> thanks
[16:58] <ssfdre38> i keep on running into this error when i do apt-get dist-upgrade http://paste.ssfdre38.com/6
[16:59] <Pici> ssfdre38: You're on 12.04 now?
[17:01] <ssfdre38> yea well Beta2
[17:03] <Pici> ssfdre38: Something is really wrong. 1) sysvutils was last distributed with Ubuntu in 11.04 2) The version number you have there is from 8.04
[17:03] <ssfdre38> Quick make sure anything breakable is hidden from InspectorCluseau
[17:04] <ssfdre38> Pici, well the system im on is from a 11.10 only so it can be still there
[17:04] <ssfdre38> should i just remove sysvutils
[17:04] <Pici> ssfdre38: Heres the output of rmadison sysvutils: http://paste.ubuntu.com/945999/
[17:04] <Pici> ssfdre38: I would.
[17:05] <Pici> ssfdre38: Actually, an apt-cache policy might be good first
[17:06] <elijah> I figured out a workaround got my issue for now, it is to put the launcher in the top left corner!
[17:07] <elijah> Whoops, guess I spoke to soon
[17:07] <elijah> even though the launcher is on top left, it is still hanging the mouse when I try to switch screens
[17:11] <elijah> Does anyone know how to disable the second menu when you have dual monitors?
[17:11] <elijah> The mouse stop/grab/hang is extremely aggravating.
[17:11] <Pici> elijah: You might find a setting in ccsm to help with that.  I personally don't use unity though.
[17:11] <elijah> I love how there is a reveal sensitivity by the way
[17:12] <elijah> Pici: Do you have any idea under what section it may be?
[17:13] <Pici> elijah: No idea, sorry. I'm not even sure if there is a setting for it there.
[17:13] <elijah> Pici: I think I found it, do I need to logout/login to see changes or should they just work
[17:14] <Pici> elijah: They should just work...
[17:14] <xapel> when will 12.04 be released?
[17:15] <bazhang> xapel, 4/26
[17:15] <xapel> bazhang: thanks
[17:16] <elijah> Pici: K, it is working but it thinks primary monitor is secondary monitor and no option to choose secondary monitor
[17:26] <eagles0513875_> hey guys
[17:26] <eagles0513875_> i need to resolve unment dependencies and when i ran apt-get -f install it said there were no packages to install or dependencies for that matter
[17:26] <eagles0513875_> yet when i come to issue sudo apt-get install at-spi2-core python-pyatspi2 to try and resolve an upgrade issue it says broken dependencies
[17:30] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875_, run, udo dpkg --clear-avail, then if you want to get adventurous ,  sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s)
[17:32] <eagles0513875_> BluesKaj: already tried that
[17:34] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875_, yeah that last command is a bit of a hit and miss thing ...you have to search logs to find the right depends \
[17:35] <krababbel> where can I find the logs about 'cpu vectors' messagies I saw during resuming from hibernation? I looked through dmesg and suspend logs.
[17:35] <Tarzipper> slow wireless
[17:36] <Tarzipper> is going with the windows driver advised?
[17:36] <Tarzipper> with ndiswrapper
[17:47] <thiebaude> anyway to put the the unity launcher on the bottom?
[17:55] <stimpie> thiebaude: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Final countdown
[18:14] <skyjumper> i hope a few really annoying bugs get looked at before this goes final...
[18:21] <astro7> how do i disable the window screen edge snap feature? where the windows resize when you drag them to edge or top of screen....
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Astro7: disable the grid plugin in ccsm
[18:21] <astro7> ok, thanks
[18:24] <Gosset_Inofensiu> Hi, my question is: Gnome-panel is equal to Gnome-fallback ?
[18:24] <Gosset_Inofensiu> in 12.04
[18:25] <Gosset_Inofensiu> and is working well under 12.04? Cause I'm seeing some bugs on the web related to this issue
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Gosset_Inofensiu: gnome-panel was the old shell, so I'd say so
[18:26] <Gosset_Inofensiu> do you see any future to it?
[18:26] <Gosset_Inofensiu> what can i do if I want panels instead of a shell
[18:26] <Gosset_Inofensiu> if ubuntu in 2017 stops supporting gnome-fallback
[18:26] <Gosset_Inofensiu> what then
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Gosset_Inofensiu: xfce smells a lot like gnome2
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Gosset_Inofensiu: or use any of the countless other desktops available. Gnome is not the only desktop
[18:29] <Artemis3> Gosset_Inofensiu xubuntu is good
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Or Lubuntu or use KDE in Kubuntu or just use fluxbox etc. Lots of choice
[18:32] <astro7> does Mate work with Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:36] <elijah> Is there a way to make the menu stick for just 500 seconds longer instead of disappearing right away?
[18:37] <rymate1234> yo
[18:37] <rymate1234> Can I ask something?
[18:37] <rymate1234> How can I improve my fps in games?
[18:39] <elijah> rymate1234: For future reference, it is not good etiquette to ask if you can ask
[18:39] <rymate1234> ok
[18:39] <elijah> rymate1234: just ask
[18:39] <rymate1234> the gae
[18:39] <rymate1234> the game with the bad fps is Minecraft
[18:39] <rymate1234> I haven't tried any others yet
[18:39] <Jordan_U> rymate1234: What GPU?
[18:40] <rymate1234> Jordan_U, ati radeon 4250
[18:40] <ajf> worth it using new beta now and upgrading to 12.04 on release?
[18:40] <rymate1234> It runs fine on windows
[18:40] <ajf> ...3d game? ATI cards do 3D gfx horribly on ubuntu
[18:41] <rymate1234> ikr :(
[18:41] <jtrucks> ajf: I'm running beta in prod and it's fine.
[18:41] <rymate1234> it used to be fine
[18:41] <rymate1234> runnning the fglrx drivers
[18:42] <ajf> OK.
[18:42] <ajf> Here we go!
[18:43] <ajf> thank god these are 700mb cds
[18:43] <rymate1234> usb sticks ftw
[18:45] <rymate1234> so any tips on improving 3d preformance in 12.04?
[18:45] <Artemis3> which video card?
[18:46] <rymate1234> ati mobility radeon 4250
[18:46] <Artemis3> hows glxgears doing?
[18:46] <ajf> isn't glxgears a pretty outdated demo?
[18:46] <ajf> doesn't it use immediate mode etc?
[18:47] <Artemis3> its just a quick glimpse of things
[18:47] <rymate1234> not smooth
[18:48] <Artemis3> if you want more complex stuff, you might want to do the unigine demos from openbenchmarking/phoronix etc.
[18:48] <rymate1234> 5945 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1188.760 FPS
[18:48] <rymate1234> apparently
[18:48] <Artemis3> well that sounds about right
[18:48] <rymate1234> could it be the fglrx drivers?
[18:49] <rymate1234> also it didn't look smooth
[18:49] <rymate1234> was all jumpy and stuff
[18:49] <Artemis3> hmm
[18:49] <Artemis3> you running on ac?
[18:50] <ajf> bye folks, gonna install :D
[18:50] <rymate1234> ac?
[18:50] <rymate1234> yu
[18:50] <Artemis3> heh, that was quick
[18:50] <Artemis3> wish i could download things so fast
[18:50] <rymate1234> ^
[18:51] <Artemis3> mobility sounds laptop/netbook, is it plugged to power?
[18:51] <rymate1234> yea
[18:51] <rymate1234> On ac
[18:59] <Gosset_Inofensiu> well thanks all
[19:00] <smallfoot-> firefox 12, thats where its at bitches
[19:00] <smallfoot-> where is it?
[19:00] <smallfoot-> cuz its sure as hell aint on my ubuntu
[19:00] <Artemis3> just wait a little
[19:00] <smallfoot-> aye
[19:00] <smallfoot-> i get firefox 12 in my ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[19:01] <physically_fit> i have 12.04 installed. do you recommend me to update today or wait till tomorrow? i updated like a week ago.
[19:01] <Artemis3> yes update now
[19:01] <smallfoot-> or wait until official release tomorrow, its just 24 hours anyways
[19:01] <Artemis3> tomorrow is probably going to be slow
[19:01] <smallfoot-> but i guess, it really dont matter
[19:01] <smallfoot-> since you already updated last week
[19:01] <physically_fit> Artemis3, that's why i think. slow
[19:02] <smallfoot-> use a mirror
[19:02] <jtaylor> if you already have it installed you won't have much to update anyway
[19:02] <smallfoot-> ya, few updates this week
[19:02] <physically_fit> last week i had to update like 1GB
[19:02] <Artemis3> and the cds are ready so there won't be any difference
[19:02] <smallfoot-> oh
[19:02] <smallfoot-> they shipping rc cd?  Have patience my friend.
[19:06] <donpdonp> smallfoot-: depends on your definition of 'out'  http://donpark.org/i/aurora.png
[19:06] <smallfoot-> oh
[19:06] <smallfoot-> tabs-on-demand is fucking dope if you got 100 sites open
[19:06] <smallfoot-> then you can open firefox quick without it slow down the computer and freeze the browser for 10 mins
[19:07] <donpdonp> smallfoot-: thats one thing i dont like. i forget that i havent switched to the gmail tab in 15 minutes and i dont get alerted to new email
[19:10] <smallfoot-> donpdonp, oh
[19:10] <smallfoot-> donpdonp, then maybe pin it as an app tab
[19:10] <donpdonp> smallfoot-: yeah that might work
[19:10] <smallfoot-> i always logout from gmail, cuz else when i search on google, they profile me
[19:11] <jtaylor> they do that with logging out too
[19:11] <peto_> hi
[19:12] <bluj> hi.. why does ubuntu 12.04 think my laptop, on docking station, is running on battery power?
[19:12] <smallfoot-> i get peronlized search result when im logged out?
[19:12] <in0cula> I download 2 days ago the beta version 12.04, when will come out the normal release i have to reinstall?
[19:12] <jtaylor> no but google knows regardless
[19:12] <smallfoot-> in0cula, i think not
[19:12] <entrylibrary> Hey!
[19:12] <entrylibrary> people
[19:12] <smallfoot-> in0cula, i dont think there been any updates in 2 days
[19:12] <Fishscene> Greetings
[19:13] <smallfoot-> in0cula, when final goes gold, just update
[19:13] <entrylibrary> Sure there are no updates in 2 days!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:13] <smallfoot-> i think the build from 2 days ago is same as the one released tomorrow probably
[19:13] <entrylibrary> it is shortly before final release
[19:13] <jpds> entrylibrary: And?
[19:13] <entrylibrary> what and
[19:13] <Fishscene> inocula, your question was answered in the #ubuntu channel. Asking in multiple places will not make it release faster.
[19:13] <Fishscene> smallfoot: Incorrect.
[19:13] <donpdonp> Fishscene: rimshot!
[19:14] <entrylibrary> It is wrong
[19:14] <entrylibrary> the final build will be build today
[19:14] <entrylibrary> and be uploaded tomorrow
[19:14] <Fishscene> smallfoot: I'm aware of at least one defect being worked on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ldm/+bug/987726
[19:14] <donpdonp> entrylibrary: built hours before release? what could go wrong?!
[19:14] <Fishscene> lol
[19:15] <entrylibrary> donpdonp what?
[19:15] <entrylibrary> Please stop using unity
[19:15] <jpds> entrylibrary: Hi.
[19:15] <in0cula> I notice few problems even if i had update everything, the Xchat icon do not appear in systray and a shell remain there and i could not close and the dash button open a full screen windows and not little like the demo i saw in youtube, and HUD don't work :(
[19:15] <donpdonp> entrylibrary: im saying its incredibly risky for the 'final build to be built today'
[19:15] <entrylibrary> Yes it is but
[19:16] <entrylibrary> they are professionals
[19:16] <Fishscene> in0cula: When they release the final, I highly recommend re-installing with that. I have had a bad experience upgrading from beta/RC's to the final.
[19:16] <donpdonp> heh
[19:16] <entrylibrary> Fishscene: please do not use unity
[19:16] <jtaylor> donpdonp: the images are built daily, with the archive frozen not much can go wrong
[19:16] <topyli> entrylibrary: could you please stop... yeah
[19:18] <jpds> topyli: Oh hi.
[19:18] <topyli> hi jpds :)
[19:19] <smallfoot-> when i get firefox 12 in my ubuntu??  I thought you could change just about all of them?
[19:22] <smallfoot-> it doesnt have any half-bright/half-dark theme
[19:22] <smallfoot-> no cuz you only can have 2 themes, plus the accessibility theme
[19:23] <Fishscene> huh. I thought that could be changed I'll have to look into this.
[19:23] <smallfoot-> and both default themes sucks and cant be compared to osx or win7
[19:23] <topyli> ok
[19:24] <in0cula> If i iconize XCHAT i cannot open it anymore, i could not read the answer you gave to me :(
[19:24] <Fishscene> oh wow. I guess they did remove or change the ability to make your own theme.
[19:24] <smallfoot-> ubuntu done some really shitty design choices like brown. however purple is sexy, but its too bad they have only black and white theme, and not a gray theme
[19:24] <Fishscene> The last time I checked on this was with Gnome 2.x
[19:25] <in0cula> I think UNITY isn't so bad like people tell
[19:25] <in0cula> it is nice
[19:25] <smallfoot-> yeah and now they have unity... which is great if you're on a netbook, but if you're not.... then not so much
[19:25] <topyli> smallfoot-: any actual support issues you'd like to discuss? or are you just venting? maybe you should post that stuff on a blog somewhere
[19:25] <smallfoot-> well unity was shit when it came in 2010 or when it was, but now in 12.04 its much better
[19:25] <in0cula> i'm on notebook
[19:25] <Fishscene> I consider it the only interface that has the potential to grow into a one-size fits all interface for touch and non-touch computers
[19:25] <smallfoot-> im on a 24" screen
[19:25] <smallfoot-> topyli, oh
[19:26] <ajf> hey!
[19:26] <ajf> I'm on Precise Pnagolin now :D
[19:26] <smallfoot-> grats
[19:26] <ajf> Pnagolin... what a funny name. *Pangolin
[19:27] <in0cula> i have problem with xchat, if i iconixe i lost the windows and have to kill the process
[19:27] <RamJett> Going to put this out there again. I have a 12 drive RAID 6 setup with lvm over the /dev/md0 . I can't get it to boot correctly. Always stops and says my RAID is in degrade do you want to boot or drop into recovery shell. I answer (Y) and boot normal and RAID 6 comes up fine. I'm thinking it is either detection bug or race condition in initramfs. Anyone know what it might be or where I can start to debug and fix. Like maybe put a sleep in som
[19:27] <RamJett> eplace if it is a race condition.
[19:27] <in0cula> any help?
[19:27] <topyli> in0cula: you probably have it set up to "minimize to tray", and there is no "tray"
[19:28] <vn> ehm can someone explain me how to change dns servers on precise with the new way resolv.conf works?  I did setup dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces on eth1, but it doesn't change dns, even after a resolvconf -u
[19:29] <in0cula> topyli, i'm in 12.04, the deluge icon is there but xchat not
[19:30] <topyli> in0cula: unfortunately i'm not too familiar with unity, but i think only a precious few applications are allowed (by default) to place icons into the notification area
[19:31] <in0cula> topyli, do you know how i can recall the window
[19:32] <topyli> anyway, you could always try and make xchat minimize normally into the dock. disable whatever 'minimize to tray/notification area/whatever' setting you have
[19:32] <guntbert> in0cula: alt+tab ?
[19:32] <topyli> that's my suspicion
[19:32] <in0cula> don't appear in the list
[19:32] <in0cula> i tryed
[19:33] <in0cula> isn't in the list
[19:33] <in0cula> strange
[19:33] <topyli> perhaps there's an xchat extension installed that you don't really want
[19:33] <in0cula> i did the plain instalation
[19:33] <in0cula> like usual
[19:33] <NurseDad> can anyone tell me the final is coming out today?
[19:34] <topyli> NurseDad: nobody knows
[19:34] <NurseDad> ok thank you
[19:34] <topyli> in0cula: then i don't know, sorry
[19:35] <in0cula> topyli, thx anyway
[19:36] <in0cula> i try to find a solution
[19:36] <PeterEH> in0cula, I believe I installed an xchat-indicator .. then its in the message notification area
[19:36] <lapion> E
[19:37] <topyli> PeterEH: oh yeah! along with the email and IM notifications
[19:37] <in0cula> PeterEH, did u used the software ceneter?
[19:38] <in0cula> yes
[19:38] <in0cula> is ther
[19:38] <PeterEH> in0cula, yes its called XChat indicator plugin :)
[19:38] <in0cula> now I install it
[19:38] <topyli> \o/
[19:38] <in0cula> installed, i have to close and open?
[19:38] <PeterEH> in0cula, probably
[19:39] <in0cula> ok i try
[19:39] <in0cula> 3
[19:39] <topyli> probably, and check that it's enabled in the preferences/settings
[19:39] <lapion> Anyone ever thought of adding indicators in the media list that show whether a show is transcoding or queued ?
[19:39] <in0cula> 2
[19:39] <in0cula> 1
[19:39] <Fishscene> lapion: What software package?
[19:40] <MechanisM> hello. anyone know when ubuntu 12.04 will be released?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> apr 26. tomorrow
[19:40] <lapion> oopd wrong channel..
[19:40] <MechanisM> BluesKaj I know day, I mean time
[19:40] <lapion> but i meant for myth
[19:40] <lapion> tv
[19:41] <vn> so nobody knows about the new way of settingdns on static IPs?
[19:41] <BluesKaj> vn which dns ?
[19:42] <MechanisM> I'm writing blog post about ubuntu release and wanna post it in same time when ubuntu released. so I need to know a time
[19:43] <guntbert> MechanisM: so you and 4753 more? ;-)
[19:43] <BluesKaj> vn here , /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d ...type the nameserver IPs in the "head " file
[19:43] <vn> BluesKaj: I don't get how to change nameservers with resolvconf...I've been told I should add a dns-nameservers line in interfaces and run resolvconf -u, but it doesnt change resolv.conf
[19:43] <vn> BluesKaj: oh so in the head and not in the original..
[19:43] <BluesKaj> yes vn , read my post above
[19:44] <vn> BluesKaj: only IPs? one per line?
[19:44] <BluesKaj> the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d "head" file writes to the origibal /etc/resolv.conf file , vn
[19:44] <MechanisM> guntbert yep all I need is time
[19:45] <BluesKaj> namserver 201.176,blah,blah  ...yes one IP per line
[19:45] <vn> ok, just like before, thanks, trying that
[19:45] <guntbert> MechanisM: no idea - sorry
[19:50] <in0cula> now it is ok
[19:50] <in0cula> i have it in the bar
[19:50] <in0cula> :) thx
[19:50] <PeterEH> in0cula, great :)
[19:51] <topyli> yay
[19:51] <in0cula> PeterEH, THANK YOUUU
[19:51] <in0cula> topyli, THANK YOUUU
[19:51] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:51] <PeterEH> in0cula, no problem .. glad it works :)
[19:52] <in0cula> i like unity, but the systray has some problem
[19:52] <in0cula> they have to adjust it
[19:54] <topyli> in0cula: the main problem is that there just isn't one :)
[19:55] <topyli> for values of "problem"
[19:55] <in0cula> i'm using ubuntu now, this is second day
[19:55] <in0cula> i used before the 11.10
[19:56] <in0cula> i was on arch
[19:56] <in0cula> what are the problems you have?
[19:56] <topyli> the gnome notification area is gone in ubuntu. it's all indicators now. if your app doesn't have one, it has to beg for a place in the "notification indicator" or whatever it's called
[19:57] <topyli> i don't have problems, i'm using gnome shell :)
[19:57] <thiebaude> to my surprise unity is so stable
[19:57] <in0cula> do you prefer gnome shell?
[19:58] <topyli> i just like gnome that's all
[19:58] <in0cula> i didn't find my self confortable with gnome shell
[19:59] <in0cula> gnome 2 was ok
[19:59] <in0cula> my idea was to install xubuntu
[20:00] <in0cula> but i would like to see the improvements of unity
[20:00] <in0cula> i kinda like
[20:00] <PeterEH> it's always great to have things to choose from
[20:01] <in0cula> true :)
[20:01] <topyli> i had a look around, it looks Ready. unity is really really pretty now, and quite usable
[20:01] <krababbel> It
[20:01] <linuxuz3r> topyli, hi
[20:01] <linuxuz3r> what unity on ubuntu version what version you use?
[20:02] <in0cula> i'm on 12.04
[20:02] <topyli> i tried it on 11.04 and now in this beta
[20:02] <linuxuz3r> is there a screen shot of unity on 12.04
[20:02] <linuxuz3r> i wanna see new unity
[20:02] <topyli> i skipped 11.10 because it was a bit too difficult to get "real gnome"
[20:02] <in0cula> just check on youtube
[20:03] <thiebaude> i had went to mint but came back for 12.04
[20:03] <in0cula> the mint in my opinion it is all menus
[20:03] <in0cula> :))
[20:03] <thiebaude> yep
[20:03] <in0cula> everywhere
[20:03] <in0cula> too much
[20:03] <thiebaude> top bottom etc,lol
[20:03] <in0cula> lol
[20:03] <thiebaude> overdone
[20:04] <in0cula> exactly, i cannot understand the success of it
[20:04] <thiebaude> i like how the unity lauuncher hides
[20:04] <thiebaude> in0cula, some ppl coming from ubuntu to mint
[20:04] <in0cula> i reduce the icon to 32, the minimun, and don't hide
[20:04] <topyli> i'd prefer 'intellihide' but meh
[20:05] <in0cula> yes alot from ubuntu to mint cause unity
[20:05] <thiebaude> i got mine at 38
[20:05] <in0cula> even to fedora and the more adventorous to arch
[20:06] <in0cula> i'm one of them, but too much time to configure the
[20:06] <in0cula> enviroment
[20:06] <PeterEH> ...the advantage of mint is that all codecs are available out of the box :)
[20:06] <thiebaude> i been to many distros but came back to ubuntu
[20:06] <topyli> in0cula: i hear that a lot, but i've yet to see numbers. it's all anecdotes
[20:06] <in0cula> topyli, regarding arch and configurations?
[20:07] <thiebaude> for me debian was the worse imho
[20:07] <topyli> "ubuntu users flocking to mint." who? where? that one
[20:07] <in0cula> distrowatch show the distros
[20:07] <topyli> in0cula: people visitied distrowatch's mint page and zdnet writes "mint surpasses ubuntu as biggest distro"
[20:08] <in0cula> and mint grow in the expanse of ubuntu
[20:08] <topyli> in0cula: distrowatch shows absolutely nothing but their own page views
[20:08] <Logan_> !ot | topyli, in0cula
[20:08] <topyli> Logan_: yeah. thanks for the reminder :)
[20:08] <in0cula> topyli, it shows the updates
[20:09] <thiebaude> almost time for the party,lol
[20:09] <thiebaude> :)
[20:09] <fh> hey guys, is there a chrome user with a custom theme? i need you to check the url bar's font before and after the custom theme :) thanks in advance
[20:09] <in0cula> topyli, what does it mean the logan thing?
[20:09] <topyli> in0cula: please join #ubuntu-offtopic, it's more of a chat channel
[20:09] <topyli> in0cula: this is just support really
[20:10] <in0cula> ah ok
[20:12] <thiebaude> how do i move the unity launcher to the bottom, if anyone knows
[20:16] <thiebaude> darn, im still being offered partial updates
[20:20] <Fishscene> thiebaude: I don't believe that is currently possible due to design/integration issues.
[20:20] <thiebaude> ahh ok
[20:22] <thiebaude> hopefully in the future there will be an option for launcher placement
[20:23] <Fishscene> Many people have wished for that ability. There might be a bug report on it somewhere.
[20:26] <topyli> with 300 duplicates :)
[20:27] <Fishscene> lolol
[20:51] <Tarzipper_> the lack of help in this forum has me question support for any betas in the future.
[20:53] <thiebaude> hmm,lol
[20:53] <thiebaude> !atitude
[20:53] <thiebaude> !attitude
[20:54] <thiebaude> but they are gone now
[20:56] <PeterEH> ...or watching champions league (yes, i know -- off topic)
[20:56] <thiebaude> PeterEH, i am
[20:57] <thiebaude> ot but go bayern :)
[20:58] <PeterEH> thiebaude, +1
[20:59] <RiMMER>  hey guys, how do we look with 12.04?
[20:59] <RiMMER> any idea on how many hours left?
[20:59] <thiebaude> RiMMER, looks good  for me
[20:59] <f0x> check samoa time
[20:59] <f0x> :))
[20:59] <thiebaude> got it on the laptop and desktop
[20:59] <Fishscene> Final isn't out yet.
[21:01] <thiebaude> but i have to say unity is shaping up
[21:04] <jrun> i'm watching a bug in precise-proposed, typically, how long does it take to make it into precise-updates?
[21:04] <Fishscene> Welcome Back
[21:04] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks Fishscene
[21:05] <topyli> jrun: depends on how long it takes for someone to pick it up and fix it and commit :)
[21:05] <yofel> jrun: unless it's an emergency fix a week (if someone verified the fix)
[21:05] <thiebaude> and if its not a show stopper also
[21:09] <jrun> it has a verification-done tag so it sounds like I can expect about a week
[21:09] <jrun> thanks
[21:12] <tero__> so any links yet for the iso files? :)
[21:12] <Fishscene> It's not out yet
[21:13] <tero__> on gmt time is allready after midnight :)
[21:13] <topyli> tero__: if you really want to wait for it to happen, join #ubuntu-release-party :)
[21:13] <Artemis3> you can't have 'em until the announcement. the images are done tho.
[21:13] <topyli> that's where the release manager will show up and announce (at least used to)
[21:14] <topyli> at the very least, they'll change the /topic
[21:14] <linuxuz3r> i thought this is the release party channel
[21:14] <Artemis3> and we get kicked to #ubuntu
[21:14] <topyli> linuxuz3r: this is the support channel for development versions
[21:14] <Artemis3> this becomes quantal quetzal support...
[21:15] <quetzal> Not immediately.
[21:15] <MrChrisDruif> I'm still having this issue from time-to-time: my connection just times out suddenly
[21:15] <Artemis3> ah but you already changed nicks lol
[21:15] <quetzal> :-P
[21:15] <topyli> heh
[21:15] <Didou> 12.04 eta ?
[21:15] <Artemis3> hours away
[21:15] <quetzal> Tomorrow.
[21:15] <thiebaude> the 26th
[21:15] <Didou> hour ?
[21:15] <thiebaude> :)
[21:16] <thiebaude> 6am,lol
[21:16] <MrChrisDruif> Sometimes I get through a night without issues, other nights it happens for a good half hour
[21:16] <Didou> 00h00 :p
[21:16] <quetzal> The release manager decides when to release it, Didou.
[21:16] <Artemis3> you could refresh the ubuntu page from time to time ;)
[21:17] <thiebaude> or just keep 12.04 updated :)
[21:17] <topyli> let's move the anticiptation to #ubuntu-release-party please, this is still a support channel :)
[21:18] <thiebaude> topyli, i agree
[21:18] <quetzal> I have a question.
[21:18] <quetzal> Will 12.04 users have to upgrade to final tomorrow, or can we opt to go straight to 12.10?
[21:18] <quetzal> (testing)
[21:19] <quetzal> Actually, I lie. It won't really be an upgrade, will it?
[21:19] <Artemis3> what you have today is enough
[21:20]  * topyli installs debian woody on quetzal's box
[21:20] <quetzal> Gah.
[21:21] <quetzal> So, at what point will we be able to upgrade to the 12.10 development release?
[21:21] <quetzal> Will it be immediate?
[21:21] <topyli> no
[21:22] <topyli> it will take time for them to fork it out of debian unstable. also, even the development plans aren't done
[21:22] <quetzal> Okay.
[21:23] <quetzal> Oh, I see. They're planning Alpha 1 for June 7th.
[21:23] <quetzal> I'm assuming the ability to upgrade to the development version coincides with the release of the first alpha, no?
[21:23] <topyli> unless you're completely nuts
[21:24] <thiebaude> im going to stickwith lts versions
[21:24] <quetzal> I like running unstable versions of stuff. :-P
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> I want some support?
[21:24] <quetzal> I feel important when I submit bugs. :-P
[21:24] <thiebaude> done my share of testing :)
[21:27] <Artemis3> i think ill do the same thiebaude; no need to bother with those nice ppas to keep the important stuff updated
[21:27] <thiebaude> haha
[21:27] <thiebaude> Artemis3, its going to be hard for me tho
[21:27] <Artemis3> also, it hurt a lot an upgrade attempt i tried from 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04; had to rename my /home/usr and make a fresh one to make things work again
[21:29] <Artemis3> i'd rather minimize those downtimes to at least every 2 years
[21:29] <ratcheer> PPA's are the devil, especially when they bring in their own dependencies.
[21:29] <Artemis3> since i use Xubuntu, i might try the XFCE 4.10 ppa
[21:30] <topyli> quetzal: why don't you run something like debian sid then? fixing bugs there is great for ubuntu too, and you'll always have unstable
[21:31] <Logan_> I like Unity
[21:31] <quetzal> ^ sorry, that's me
[21:32] <quetzal> topyli: ^
[21:32] <thiebaude> Logan_, now i do
[21:39] <dstaubsauger> I'm probably the 502382nd person to ask this, but is there some kind of countdown clock?
[21:39] <Artemis3> topyli, mind joining #ubuntu-release-party?
[21:40] <topyli> yes i would mind, i haven't joined in years :)
[21:41] <Artemis3> i know, change channel topic to tell ppl to join~~~ (especially those asking if its done)
[21:41] <Artemis3> yeah me too, but since we are idle chatting,... or i guess we could use -offtopic?
[21:41] <topyli> -offtopic works too
[21:42] <topyli> -release-party isn't usually a place you can have a sane discussion anyway :)
[21:42] <Artemis3> tehehe
[21:42] <MrChrisDruif> So, let's see if wicd is more connection stable
[21:45] <topyli> MrChrisDruif: it is for me
[21:45] <MrChrisDruif> topyli; I've been experiencing sudden connection time-outs with network-manager
[21:46] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe it's worth suggesting to the Technical board?
[21:46] <thiebaude> no problems with wicd
[21:46] <topyli> MrChrisDruif: nah, just a bug would be enough. but i'm afraid these bugs are pretty deep
[21:47] <topyli> n-m usually works fine, but now that i got this laptop it's suddenly acting up
[21:47] <MrChrisDruif> I'll see if wicd solves my issue for multiple nights
[21:47] <MrChrisDruif> It used to work fine with oneiric, no issues
[21:47] <MrChrisDruif> It started acting up on precise
[21:52] <topyli> i wouldn't know, i got this machine preloaded with some early alpha precise :)
[21:53] <MrChrisDruif> This is my personal machine, always fun to mess with your own "production" machine
[21:59] <bkc_> so, 12.04 going live tomorrow (iirc)... is there anything special to think about before dist-upgrading?
[22:00] <dstaubsauger> bkc_: backup all your data
[22:00] <bkc_> dstaubsauger: noted sense 7.10 -> 8.04 ;)
[22:00] <bkc_> s/sence/since/
[22:01] <chull2058> Hello room, could someone please work with me on Themes and implementing them on 12.04 LTS?
[22:01] <bkc_> chull2058: support-channel isn't really the right place to pick up artists ^^
[22:02] <bkc_> and afaik, 11.10-themes should work on 12.04 just fine, might be some light "tweaking" involved :)
[22:03] <bkc_> actually, it's 4.7-themes vs 4.8-themes :)
[22:03] <Skladowy> hi, my ubuntu wont run after forced quit in updating it from 11,10 to 12.04 any1 can help me figure it out?
[22:03] <chull2058> Sorry,  I was under the impression when you are having a hard time implementing software and graphics onto any system you can go to a support channel to find out what the problem may be and possibly fix the problem.
[22:04] <bkc_> Skladowy: you have part 11.10 and part 12.10, good luck getting that to boot ever again :)
[22:05] <bkc_> chull2058: soory my bad, I was under the impression that you were looking for artist :)
[22:05] <Skladowy> thats so helpfull, there isnt anyway to finish updating?
[22:05] <bkc_> Skladowy: 1st, unless otherwise told, no privs ^^
[22:06] <topyli> Skladowy: that's usually a good way to get a broken system
[22:06] <chull2058> no I am wondering why when I download and unpack a theme, they dont appear in the appearance window under themes, yet when I look under advanced settings parts of the theme can be used for windows and such.
[22:07] <bkc_> Skladowy: boot a live-disk, chroot the installed version, do a apt-get check && apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[22:08] <bkc_> you'll probably need to force the dist-upgrade thou, and delete the lock-file :)
[22:08] <majnoon> is there a wubi for 12.x ??
[22:08] <bkc_> majnoon: wubi whould be on the installation-disk :)
[22:08] <Skladowy> bkc_ can u talk in private? :D i wont figure it out reading here :( i'm total newb to linux
[22:09] <majnoon> was thinking with 12 not out may not got that far yet :P
[22:10] <bkc_> Skladowy: don't do priv-help, sorry :/ kinda defeats the point of an open chat-support :)
[22:10] <bkc_> majnoon: then yes, afaik there are no plans of trashing wubi just yet ^^
[22:11] <majnoon> no think get rid of ,it just NOT top project :)
[22:11] <Skladowy> ok, so i dont really care for system, i just need to acces the root account and get files from it, and i'm using live-disk right now as "testing ubuntu"
[22:11] <bkc_> Skladowy: a properly configured irc-client (even web-based) should highlight the message if I write your nick :)
[22:11] <Skladowy> bbk_  see i told u i'm newb :)
[22:11] <bkc_> Skladowy: then just boot the live-disk and copy the files you want to an external hdd or other partition, then reinstall :)
[22:12] <majnoon> with wubi i find BEST way to do is back up settings then do FRESH install
[22:12] <Skladowy> bkc_ but the account root is protected i dont have acces to it, i know passowrd and all but idk how to use it to get in
[22:13] <bkc_> Skladowy: chroot & sudo :)
[22:13] <bkc_> chroot <mountpoint> /bin/bash
[22:15] <topyli> majnoon: or you could just run ubuntu from a live usb stick and save the settings there :)
[22:15] <mohd> alo
[22:15] <bkc_> topyli: permission-problems :/
[22:15] <majnoon> with wubi LESS trouble to do fresh
[22:15] <mohd> is it out yet!
[22:16] <bkc_> mohd: no, tomorrow :)
[22:16] <topyli> bkc_: meh, those are fixed with a simple chown
[22:16] <mohd> bkc_: Okay , cool. :)
[22:16] <bkc_> topyli: actually, sudo works just fine to, as they still have the same GID&UID :)
[22:17] <majnoon> topyli, i have LOTSA external hd space ,copy settings over then redo wubi ,less trouble
[22:17] <bkc_> mohd: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown <-- :)
[22:17] <topyli> majnoon: as you wish of course
[22:18] <cpatrick08> people it wont be out until a announcment is made at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2012-April/date.html
[22:18] <Skladowy> ok ty, bkc i will reboot and see if it works
[22:18] <majnoon> NOT saying best way ,just EASIEST :)
[22:18] <mohd> nah , wubi is trublesome to update and upgrade.
[22:18] <majnoon> but need windoze for mom :(
[22:18] <cpatrick08> wubi will be a seperate download now wont be on the iso anymore
[22:19] <mohd> oh , right .. forgot about the announcment thing .
[22:19] <mohd> thanks guys.
[22:19] <majnoon> yeh but 3-5 mb download that NOT a biggy cpatrick08
[22:19] <majnoon> think that may be a GOOD idea :)
[22:20] <cpatrick08> yea true
[22:20] <electronics-cat> is there a timer for when 12.04 LTS is released
[22:20] <electronics-cat> like a countdown
[22:20] <majnoon> (easier to find that way)
[22:20] <mohd> majnoon: the easy way out .. right but then *blam* boom :D
[22:20] <topyli> electronics-cat: no, because nobody knows the time of release
[22:20] <electronics-cat> thats a shame
[22:21] <mohd> not realy , cuz things happens sometimes.
[22:21] <topyli> electronics-cat: the release manager will announce it when she thinks it's done. in other news, you should join #ubuntu-release-party instead of a support channel like this :)
[22:21] <cpatrick08> electronics-cat, subcribe to the ubuntu-announcement mailing list at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce and you get a email when it is released
[22:22] <majnoon> a couple times lately they say one day and it come out EARLIER :)
[22:22] <electronics-cat> thanks cpatrick08
[22:22] <topyli> also what cpatrick08 said
[22:22] <electronics-cat> you could have just said something helpful topyli
[22:22] <cpatrick08> no problem they also send emails when versions go eol
[22:23] <topyli> electronics-cat: i'm pretty sure the topic change in -release-party is faster than the time for the email to reach your inbox :)
[22:24] <topyli> also, how helpful can i be? i answered your question promptly and accurately
[22:25] <electronics-cat> i thought you were taking the piss
[22:26]  * topyli tries to find clues of piss takeage
[22:27]  * electronics-cat looks
[22:29] <topyli> in any case, if you're already running ubuntu, i would upgrade right now. it won't make any difference really
[22:29] <electronics-cat> i actually have 12.04 beta 2 or whatever it is on one machine
[22:29] <cpatrick08> and would be faster since the servers will be slammed when it is released
[22:29] <krababbel> What should I prepare to do before moving my root partition and swap partition?
[22:29] <gloop_beep_boop> Qqquick qqquestion: How many hours until 12.04 launches?
[22:29] <Artemis3> if you have updated, it is the same as release, so make sure all your 12.04 machines are updated, thats it.
[22:30] <electronics-cat> sweet
[22:30] <topyli> electronics-cat: well that will become final on its own, yes
[22:30] <cpatrick08> 12-16 hours according to #ubuntu-release-party
[22:30] <gloop_beep_boop> Thank you, cpatrick08!
[22:31] <electronics-cat> i want to party when it comes out
[22:31] <krababbel> Is there some howto? I guess, it's grub2, swap and fstab? Will I have to edit grub files manually?
[22:31] <electronics-cat> im going to make a giant cake like RMS's head
[22:32] <cpatrick08> electronics-cat, then you will have a open source cake lol
[22:32] <topyli> krababbel: if you move root, then grub of course needs to know about it
[22:32] <mohd> hah  , nice one electronics-cat :)
[22:32] <topyli> some update-grub chant probably
[22:33] <krababbel> well I'll try
[22:33] <topyli> fstab will want to know where swap is
[22:34] <krababbel> init.gz or what it's called too I read on a forum. I hoped there was some official guide for updating an hdd.
[22:35] <topyli> i just realized, i've never moved root
[22:35] <krababbel> I want to increase the partition size and have to move the beginning now.
[22:39] <CyberWorld> boot off the cd and use gparted
[22:39] <topyli> i don't think the actual partitioning is a problem here :)
[22:40] <krababbel> CyberWorld: Will do. topyli I think changing the first sector will cause a change in UUID. I'll see. :)
[22:40] <topyli> have fun :)
[22:44] <marcm> hey there
[22:44] <marcm> when will 12.04 be released?
[22:44] <RiMMER> marcm: I'd guess in 6 - 8 hours
[22:46] <Tarzipper_> there were few in here and lots of problems with 12.04 I will not bother coming in here for the next beta. thanks..
[22:46] <Bauldrick> O.K
[22:47] <CyberWorld> tell us how you REALLY feel :P
[22:47]  * Bauldrick hates it when he talks to himself, but does it anyway.... how are you
[22:54] <marcm> RiMMER thanks allot :) I'm actually switching from Debian 6 to Ubuntu 12.04. I like them both, but after trying the beta, the features are much better on Ubuntu 12.04
[22:56] <MrChrisDruif> CyberWorld; pretty good actually after switching to wicd
[22:59] <Skladowy> hi, could some1 tell me how to transfer files from root account ( on damaged system i cant log to ) from live disk to new hard drive i have all the info and passwords
[23:36] <shipe> anyone knows how to install GNS3 0.8.2 on ubuntu 12.04
[23:36] <dzocrnanula> today final is coming out?
[23:37] <delusr_> What time will 12.04 be released and what timezone?
[23:40] <delusr_> release?
[23:41] <cc11rocks> Tomorrow at 21:00 UTC
[23:42] <Bodnar> cc11rocks: do you know if the repos are at least finalized for now?
[23:42] <Bodnar> or is there still time for things to be rushed in?
[23:42] <cc11rocks> No clue...
[23:42] <Bodnar> ah damn
[23:42] <cc11rocks> Probably last minute fixes are done for now, but don't know sorry...
[23:43] <cc11rocks> Can anybody confirm Wubi being included in Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:43] <cc11rocks> (By default)?
[23:45] <Athanasius> the beta2 won't boot on my netbook - Asus EEE 1000H. GFXboot won't even load, then it says EDD: Error 8000 reading sector (358366,358367,358371,358372,358371,357426)
[23:45] <bluebomber> Hi, all, I'm having problems updating after upgrading to 12.04. When I check for updates I get this message: "Failed to download repository information. Check your internet connection."
[23:45] <dzocrnanula> try booting it from USB
[23:46] <dzocrnanula> @bluebomer sudo apt-get updare
[23:47] <cc11rocks> *update
[23:47] <bluebomber> My 'net connection is fine (using it now), and there's a scrolling textbox containing lots of "failed to fetch (URL) in Release file (wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)" messages. Can anyone help?
[23:47] <bluebomber> dzocrnanula, cc11rocks: OK. Hold one moment.
[23:48] <cc11rocks> Athanasius : Did you check the MD5 sum before installing it to your media installer?
[23:49] <cc11rocks> I got the Beta 2 to install on a flash drive using another flash drive on my Asus EEE PC 1005 HAB
[23:50] <bluebomber> cc11rocks, dzocrnanula : want the output of # apt-get update?
[23:50] <cc11rocks> Sure...
[23:50] <dzocrnanula> do it
[23:50] <bluebomber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/946533/
[23:52] <cc11rocks> Are you positive that you have an internet connection (aka : are you talking to us on the "problem" computer?)
[23:52] <bluebomber> cc11rocks: Yes.
[23:52] <bluebomber> (to both)
[23:52] <cc11rocks> Okay, cool
[23:53] <bluebomber> Those four (of many) sources (?) seem to be giving me problems for some reason. I even noticed a Launchpad bug filed over something similar and maybe identical to this. I didn't know if anyone here has solved it...
[23:54] <cc11rocks> I'm not sure, sorry
[23:54] <Zebe42> Is there a list of the version of packages in the repositories of 12.4?
[23:56] <dzocrnanula> bluebomber: try setting your update-manager to download from main server
[23:56] <bluebomber> dzocrnanula: I've tried that already.
[23:58] <dzocrnanula> bluebomber: try installing fresh system than
[23:58] <dzocrnanula> :)
[23:58] <cc11rocks> Ouch
[23:59] <andygraybeal> so the new release comes out tomorrow... what time in GMT?
[23:59] <bluebomber> dzocrnanula: Yeah, that's not gonna happen. lol