[22:01] <oly562> VCoolio: ah, thats what i thought , see sometimes a program that wont install with apt-get , installs with aptitude in cmdline. go figure
[22:01] <she_dyed> apparle: lemme look...
[22:01] <guntbert> nightwalk: getting help is one thing - ranting is quite another
[22:01] <oly562> VCoolio: i have tested that a few times, and i know there is some diff
[22:01] <ikonia> there isn't
[22:01] <nightwalk> guntbert: Just because you have a difference of opinion doesn't make what I'm saying 'ranting'
[22:02] <ikonia> they can only intereact with dpkg in the same way
[22:02] <anygivenname> fail2ban is working but ssh is not logging attempts in log.....sshd_config is set to DEBUG......any ideas ?
[22:02] <oly562> ok, i was just imagining a program loading with one and not the other....
[22:02] <ikonia> probably
[22:02] <VCoolio> oly562: that's weird; shouldn't happen, is not an intended difference at least
[22:02] <perseus> nightwalk gutbert bfinch ... chill ppl :)
[22:02] <oly562> i dont imagine
[22:02] <oly562> VCoolio: i can say that has happend hmmm 10x at least since i have been using ubuntu
[22:02] <oly562> at least
[22:02] <oly562> but ikonia is all seeing, he must be right
[22:03] <ikonia> oly562: you've probably not done sudo apt-ghet update to bring the repos into sync
[22:03] <ikonia> oly562: they both use the same repos so thats all it can be
[22:03] <oly562> ikonia: possible, now that makes sense, however, i usually do
[22:03] <ikonia> that's all it can be
[22:03] <Angelov> nightwalk: What do you think?
[22:03] <oly562> ikonia: i understand,,, just pointing out my experiences
[22:03] <aka1> guys can you please suggest me a website or a forum that i can check for linux alternatives ?????
[22:03] <oly562> mileage may differ
[22:03] <bfinch> anyways.... HERE's a question.... waht is the bast (if any) git GUI tool that will fetch git contents by point and click .... ?
[22:03] <nightwalk> aka1: osalt
[22:04] <balr0g> ikonia, i see The program 'ruby' is currently not installed.
[22:04] <aka1> im looking for nastran patran alternatives , anyone knows such ?
[22:04] <balr0g> ikonia, can you help me?
[22:04] <ikonia> balr0g: ok so use the package manager to install it
[22:04] <balr0g> ikonia, i use it, did you see the command i execute, i use aptitude
[22:05] <bfinch> btw... i find between the synaptic tool and the ubuntu software gui tool... i am not often (if ever) using the command line.... on the other hand, I am having problems doing some simple java "builds" fromt he command line that aren;t a problem in distros other than ubuntu
[22:05] <xangua> aka1: what is nastran patran in first place¿
[22:05] <frank> hi , does anyone know y network tools in 10.10 cannot ping?
[22:05] <bfinch> does anyone here USE a git gui tool ?
[22:05] <Hilbert> Hey how do I run scripts with the terminal
[22:05] <balr0g> ikonia, what can i do?
[22:05] <nightwalk> Angelov: as I told someone else a minute ago, I can't really check links atm. left-click among other gnome keyboard/mouse mappings are borked :(
[22:06] <balr0g> ikonia, im stucked dont know what to do
[22:06] <nightwalk> ...and no one seems to know how to reset them...
[22:06] <she_dyed> apparle: i get it, and then look in /etc/X11/Xsession and Xsession.d to leave only enna to run
[22:06] <perseus> bfinch what exactly you trying to build in Java and what are you exactly doing?
[22:06] <ikonia> !synaptic > balr0g
[22:06] <perseus> bfinch i didn't get what you trying to say?
[22:06] <oly562> balr0g: dont beg him, he doesnt like it
[22:06] <aka1> xangua , they are analysis programs for engineering
[22:06] <RoC_MasterMind> Anyone else get a boot hang after installing ubuntu server to an iscsi root?  I get this: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9383/screenshotwrw.png
[22:07] <Ichat> oly562:  - are you always that trollish ;)
[22:07] <aka1> xangua , they are valued like 5.000 $ each
[22:07] <bfinch> perseus, two seprate thing... one aobut git and just a cmment about compiling java code v-v installing packages with gui tools
[22:07] <oly562> Ichat: only when i have to be
[22:07] <peterrooney> Hilbert: (1) /bin/bash nameofscript, or (2) chmod +x /path/to/nameofscript ; /path/to/nameofscript
[22:07] <balr0g> ikonia, oly562 ok guys, will try synaptic then
[22:07] <bfinch> perseus, i did a work around on the java stuff
[22:07] <cjc2010> Hello please can I ask how to access my inbox from the terminal in UNE 10.04
[22:07] <aka1> xangua , i think there is some alternatives, hypermesh and femap are mentioned
[22:07] <bfinch> perseus, but i do have a need to do some package compilation from git repos
[22:08] <oly562> try aptitude ;)
[22:08] <cjc2010> ^email inbox
[22:08] <oly562> sudo aptitude install whateva
[22:08] <no--name> since I upgraded to 10.10 (64-bit), the shell program dict will not connect to it's server
[22:08] <oly562> instead of sudo apt-get install whateva
[22:08] <perseus> bfinch my apologies .. till it goes for compiling Java i could have helped .. but git .. never used before .. sorry
[22:08] <oly562> brb
[22:08] <anygivenname> fail2ban is working but ssh is not logging attempts in log.....sshd_config is set to DEBUG......any ideas ?
[22:08] <Ichat> oly562:  you dont have to be its rude and it wont get you anywhere not in this can not anywhere else and if it does... there's somthing seriously wrong with this world
[22:08] <bfinch> (gosh i hate this gnome -x-chat thingy... too messy compared to good 'ol x-chat)
[22:08] <oly562> Ichat: i have never even talked to before lolol
[22:09] <bfinch> perseus, ok.... thanks for the response
[22:09] <bfinch> i will poke around a bit...
[22:09] <perseus> :)
[22:09] <augustuen_> How do I install a language in Ubuntu 10.10?
[22:09] <bfinch> say loudly... install launguage ?
[22:09] <xangua> system>administration>language support , augustuen_
[22:09] <unilawn> is there a bug with 10.10 where background theme colors don't change?  No matter what I pick my panel and menus don't change colors
[22:10] <frank> hi , does anyone know y network tools in 10.10 cannot ping?
[22:10] <unilawn> and half of my apps seam to use old gtk-1 themes
[22:10] <augustuen_> frank: just do a ping in terminal
[22:10] <Kai696> Hey there I can't seem to mount my internal drive (sda3)
[22:10] <perseus> bfinch wait a second you trying to compile tar.gz of git repo tool???
[22:10] <frank> yes it works
[22:10] <perseus> bfinch means you trying to compile the source?
[22:11] <xangua> unilawn: make sure you have installed the themes engines for the one you want to use
[22:11] <Kai696> anyone spare a moment ^^ ?
[22:11] <bfinch> perseus, i am trying to see IF there is a decent git gui tool for downloading from git repos
[22:11] <unilawn> xangua, This is a default install, I just tried to pick one of the choices (like new wave) and it doesn't work
[22:11] <bfinch> perseus, i use to have my OWN distro.. so compiling itself isn't (usually) an issue
[22:12] <MorpheuXNL> how can i check where my /home dir is mounted
[22:12] <perseus> bfinch .. wow :-) sorry for poking again ..
[22:12] <semitones> is there a button in nautilus that toggles the location bar from text field to buttons?
[22:12] <bfinch> perseus, oh please... don;t be.... just wondering aobut git gui suggestions
[22:12] <she_dyed> MorpheuXNL: df -h or cat /etc/mtab
[22:12] <aeon-ltd> semitones: yeah, its next to the bar
[22:12] <IpSe_DiXiT> the "assistive technology" icon appeared on my lower panel and it won't go away, how can i get rid of it?
[22:13] <Kai696>  /dev/sda3 won't mount, any suggestions?
[22:13] <augustuen_> Kai696: waht is the problem?
[22:13] <aeon-ltd> IpSe_DiXiT: right click?
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[22:13] <Gerwin> !info git-gui | bfinch
[22:13] <Kai696> Augustuen_
[22:13] <Kai696> chad@chad-Aspire-X1700:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda3
[22:13] <Kai696> mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:13] <Kai696> chad@chad-Aspire-X1700:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[22:13] <FloodBot1> Kai696: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:13] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: if /home is not mentioned does that mean it lives inside the root
[22:13] <Kai696> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[22:13] <Kai696> chad@chad-Aspire-X1700:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda3 ntfs /mnt
[22:13] <bfinch> Gerwin, ubottu thanks for the recommendation ~!!
[22:13] <IpSe_DiXiT> aeon-ltd: ive tried that as well, there is no way
[22:14] <Gerwin> bfinch: Welcome :)
[22:14] <she_dyed> MorpheuXNL: maybe it just didn't get mounted?
[22:14] <augustuen_> I've never specified the filesystem on Ubuntu when mounting, it just works
[22:14] <Kai696> Augustuen_ did you get that ?
[22:14] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: i can acces it normally
[22:14] <augustuen_> yeah
[22:14] <semitones> aeon-ltd, i'll give you a screenshot
[22:14] <Kai696> yeah usually it does but it didn't seem to there so i gave it ext4 and still nothing
[22:14] <nightwalk> IpSe_DiXiT: Go System->Preferences->'Startup Applications', and uncheck '*Assistive Technology*'
[22:14] <guntbert> aeon-ltd: that toggle button in nautilus used to exist till 9.10, I cannot see it now?
[22:14] <frank> augustuen , in network tools i can tracert etc but not ping ?
[22:14] <TREXY> I just joined
[22:15] <she_dyed> MorpheuXNL: use one of the GUI filemanagers and when you're in HOME , pick go up a dir
[22:15] <Kai696> frank ping local network our outsdie? if outside check your gateway
[22:15] <semitones> aeon-ltd, where is it? http://imgur.com/XK0zM
[22:15] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: and the
[22:15] <MorpheuXNL> n
[22:15] <anygivenname> on synaptic....i searched for ssh & found that i do not have everything installed but maybe 25% of the foundings.....do I have to install all ?
[22:15] <ka1ser> frank: that could mean TCP works but ICMP doesnt...
[22:15] <TREXY> Unable to format a usb in ubuntu 10.10 daemon is being inhibited. what does this mean?
[22:15] <augustuen_> just wanted to share this cool pic: http://lfs.phayoune.org/blfs/artwork/lfs-background-by-ct.jpg
[22:16] <frank> kai696 . terminal can ping ok
[22:16] <guntbert> semitones: if I remember correctly you have to set it in gnome-config
[22:16] <aeon-ltd> semitones: press Esc
[22:16] <unilawn> can anyone else help me out?  I'm getting no theme changes and have a ugly gtk-1 theme.  This is a default install, trying to use default theme (new wave/etc) and have updated everything...(10.10 btw)
[22:16] <semitones> thanks :)
[22:17] <semitones> guntbert, sounds like gnome-config is the place to be these days :P
[22:17] <aeon-ltd> semitones: it worked? good :) glad i could help
[22:17] <aeon-ltd> semitones: oh ok. sorry
[22:17] <cjc2010> Automatic printing of email + marking as read, any suggestions? apps, plugins, scripts?
[22:17]  * aeon-ltd hangs head in shame
[22:17] <semitones> aeon-ltd, yeah your solution worked :) honestly I'll use the keyboard shortcuts more than a button now
[22:17] <bfinch> INTERESTING .... git-gui is NOT listed in 10.10's Uduntu Software gui app ... BUT (somehow) the repos I have installed DO pick it up in synaptic.... go figure !!
[22:17] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: so when i go a folder up i get in root
[22:17]  * aeon-ltd raises head
[22:17] <semitones> aeon-ltd, ctrl-l to textify it, esc to get buttons again
[22:18] <she_dyed> MorpheuXNL: so now you know where it is
[22:18] <oly562> back
[22:18] <IpSe_DiXiT> nightwalk: didnt go away, hopefully it will after next boot
[22:18] <apparle> why are 4 dependencies of enna not available in maverick. they were there in lucid
[22:18] <Kai696> anyone have any thoughts as to why I can't mount my /dev/sda3 drive? *(internal)* ext4 tag was added but still with no succees
[22:18] <she_dyed> MorpheuXNL: you referring to '/' or '/root'
[22:18] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: i still dont know if it is on it's own partition
[22:18] <MorpheuXNL> to /
[22:18] <augustuen> wtf? Ubuntu has the local language here, but not the one that 75% of my country uses..
[22:18] <Kai696> wb augustuen  ,
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[22:19] <Kai696> any thoughts as to why it's not mounting? :(
[22:19] <oly562> lol wow
[22:19] <aoupi> thank you jpa1mer for your input
[22:19] <Kedare> lol
[22:19] <Kai696> WWWWWWWWOw
[22:20] <Callum__> .................................................
[22:20] <bfinch> nice
[22:20] <perseus> hahahah
[22:20] <KB1JWQ> It requires no comment.
[22:20] <Arsanerit> it still exists?
[22:20] <Diverdude> How do i search content of all files in a specific folder for a specific string?
[22:20] <bsmith093> ok so im not the only one who getas those wierd messages
[22:20] <Callum__> I'm kinda sick of all these spam posts...
[22:20] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: ?
[22:20] <Kai696> never shal be had, getting back to business, anyone help with unable tom ount /dev/sda3?
[22:20] <nobarking> #ubuntu usually chats hard
[22:20] <Callum__> =P
[22:20] <bfinch> diverdude... man find .... man grep
[22:20] <semitones> Callum__, that's their goal
[22:20] <nightwalk> Diverdude: 'grep -r'
[22:20] <she_dyed> MorpheuXNL: in df -h one line would say
[22:20] <luca> hi all.. my computer keeps going into sleep/standby mode (even on DC power) even though I've set it not to.. any ideas?
[22:20] <perseus> bfinch nightwalk can you solve a problem of mine ... i have been looking for tool to enhance my sound for Ubuntu ... or the Rhythymbox player
[22:20] <she_dyed> /dev/hda5             1.9G  1.5G  403M  80% /home
[22:20] <Callum__> i bet it is...
[22:20] <Jordan_U> Diverdude: grep "some string" -R /path/to/directory/
[22:21] <perseus> bfinch nightwalk anything like ...  :P
[22:22] <Kai696> Why not submit a translation yourself augusteun?
[22:22] <bfinch> perseus, sorry
[22:22] <perseus> bfinch nightwalk  thnx anyways .. :)
[22:22] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: so how do i figure out if home is on it's own partition
[22:22] <bfinch> what does ubuntu use for audio... i know it ain't aoss
[22:22] <bfinch> um
[22:22] <psilynt> Is this a place where I can ask newbie questions?
[22:22] <bfinch> er
[22:23] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Yes.
[22:23] <she_dyed> MorpheuXNL: it didn't list in df -h? try cat /etc/mtab
[22:23] <perseus> bfinch alsa?
[22:23] <Kai696> alsa's outdated isn't it ?
[22:23] <Stormx2> bfinch, ubuntu uses pulseaudio, or though some applications use it via a fake alsa device
[22:23] <perseus> Kai696 dunno .. no ideas .. :)
[22:23] <Stormx2> s/or/alll/
[22:24] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: df -h does not mention /home
[22:24] <Chell> Hi all, I was wondering what everybody uses nowadays for cli-client for twitter. I'm looking for an app actively maintained, curses or slang based. I allready googled and found some, but I'm open to suggestions ;)
[22:24] <nightwalk> well...appears a third calling of 'gnome-session' fixed my mouse & keyboard issues (for now). Kind of annoys me that there doesn't seem to be any interface or documentation on changing gnome's mouse/keyboard mappings, though
[22:24] <bfinch> ah yes... NOT alsa.... yes.... so i might have need for poss ... but other than that... (and setting levels) i don;t tend to mess with audio
[22:24] <oly562> question: i am receiving this error: we're sorry, the hulu player is not supported on 64 bit versions of Flash ubuntu
[22:24] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: does this mean it is in /
[22:24] <Kai696> perseus :D <3 well how about with /dev/sda3 not mounting then ?
[22:24] <oly562> anyone have a work around?
[22:24] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: if this is the case can i still make /home on a different partition
[22:24] <perseus> Kai696 what about that?
[22:24] <perseus> :D
[22:25] <psilynt> I think I messed up java. a 'which java' returns blank, but a 'sudo which java' returns /usr/bin/java. I can't run java without being su
[22:25] <Kai696> it won't mount, saying i need a FS tag so i added the proper ext4 tag and still ntohing (sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt)
[22:25] <Kai696> @ perseus
[22:25] <Stormx2> oly562, why are you using 64-bit flash. it's unsupported and insecure
[22:25] <she_dyed> MorpheuXNL: not running live are you, or wubi
[22:25] <MorpheuXNL> she_dyed: nope
[22:25] <erUSUL> psilynt: do « echo "$PATH" » as normal user
[22:25] <nightwalk> psilynt: your $PATH is probably different than root's
[22:26] <bfinch> i am NOT "normal"
[22:26] <al_nz1> for a ubuntu system
[22:26] <psilynt> No... sudo echo $PATH and echo $PATH return the same value
[22:27] <nightwalk> oly562: yes. use the mozilla-packaged version of firefox, or chrome, etc
[22:27] <perseus> Kai696 really no ideas but why don't you try force mounting ...
[22:27] <she_dyed> MorpheuXNL: and not a VM, then we are the same, we have in in /
[22:27] <she_dyed> it*
[22:27] <al_nz1> if i need to "make" on a install of john the ripper, am I picking the linux-x86-64 version?
[22:27] <_Neytiri_> i am haveing a horrible tim listening to ausio its skipping badly on my system
[22:27] <pibarnas> is it possible to theme gnome-chess?
[22:27] <oly562> nightwalk: i did
[22:27] <Stormx2> al_nz1, if you're on a x86-64 system, yes
[22:28] <Jordan_U> psilynt: That doesn't mean anything as $PATH is expanded by the shell, as your user, before being passed to sudo then echo.
[22:28] <pibarnas> its apearance looks awful.
[22:28] <oly562> SwedeMike: i guess i could grep -i whateva /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates
[22:28] <psilynt> Jordan_U: What do I need to do to, then?
[22:28] <cjc2010> Automatic printing of new email + marking as read, any suggestions please? apps, plugins, scripts?
[22:29] <oly562> i guess this works pretty good for what im trying to do:  less /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates|grep -i flash |less try it ;)
[22:29] <balr0g> ikonia, oly562 i already installed ruby1.9.1 using Synaptic, same thing: The program 'ruby' is currently not installed.
[22:29] <nightwalk> oly562: So you're running 32 bit firefox? What about flash? Did you install a 32 bit version of that as well?
[22:29] <balr0g> what can i do?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> psilynt: printenv PATH; sudo printenv PATH
[22:29] <oly562> nightwalk: nah, 64bit
[22:29] <oly562> thus the error
[22:29] <oly562> why do i want to go back a step ? lol the default is 64amd now,, lol
[22:30] <Stormx2> No it's not.
[22:30] <Jordan_U> psilynt: But the problem seems to be that you just don't have /usr/bin/ in your user's $PATH.
[22:30] <oly562> go order a new box from dell/hp so forth, its 64bit now
[22:30] <Stormx2> Flash isn't.
[22:30] <nightwalk> oly562: 32 bit browsers are actually kind of nicer. Being 32 bit, they can't hog all of the system's memory like they otherwise would :/
[22:30] <balr0g> can anyobody help me with this ruby package? why isnt seem to be installed?
[22:30] <Stormx2> Adobe have stopped developing 64-bit flash. It never left alpha. As much of a pain it is, you need to use 32-bit flash.
[22:30] <psilynt> the only difference is normal user has /usr/games and su has /usr/X11/bin
[22:30] <oly562> i guess i could load linux on my ibm aptiva c67 to be with the times....
[22:30] <Jordan_U> Stormx2: It's back again.
[22:30] <oly562> i have 4 gigs of mem, nightwalk, not an issue
[22:30] <psilynt> Jordan_U /usr/bin is in my normal user's path
[22:30] <Stormx2> Really?!
[22:31] <nightwalk> oly562: I have 8gb, and yet 64 bit chromium *still* eventually sucked it up and caused my system to become unusable
[22:31] <oly562> amd's were designed for backend proc's so , for my needs i'll stick with 64bit from here till 128bit
[22:31] <psilynt> jordan_U: It's only java that I have a problem with, other commands work. Could it be a permission issue?
[22:31] <oly562> nightwalk: i dont use google stuff yet, other than gmail/voice
[22:31] <oly562> it's not ready yet ;)
[22:32] <dstaubsauger> is there a way to configure that indicator applet so it does not display the things i never use? ("memenu", that large keyboard layout icon)
[22:32] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Can you run /usr/bin/java (entering the full path) successfully as your user?
[22:32] <balr0g> why my ruby package isnt running?
[22:32] <psilynt> Jordan_U:  bash: /usr/bin/java: Permission denied
[22:32] <psilynt> Jordan_U: How can I change this?
[22:32] <nightwalk> oly562: chrome is slightly more polished and less memory-hungry than chromium, but you're right, they're not ready.
[22:32] <Jordan_U> psilynt: How did you install java?
[22:32] <oly562> balr0g: are you saying you can not log ruby1.x?
[22:33] <marcos> oi brasil
[22:33] <balr0g> oly562, i can run it, it say The program 'ruby' is currently not installed.
[22:33] <balr0g> can0t*
[22:33] <oly562> balr0g: what are you trying to do, curious now
[22:33] <balr0g> can't*
[22:33] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Synaptic
[22:33] <bfinch> git-gui isn't butting it
[22:33] <bfinch> butting=cutting
[22:33] <balr0g> oly562, just trying to isntall ruby1.9.1
[22:33] <nightwalk> Consequently, one can make firefox look and act almost like chrome already. It'll be really interesting if someone figures out a way to get the tabs in the top bar like chrome does, though. Might even be enough to kill off chrome
[22:34] <al_nz1> i got cat /proc/spuinfo to see what my cpu supports, how do I tell if x86 or x86-64?
[22:34] <oly562> try this command: less /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates|grep -i ruby |less    ,,,, or like SwedeMike stated earlier, dpgk --list|grep ruby
[22:34] <rahduke> can someone tell me how to install the basic standard video driver from command line?  Something is really messed up with my nvidia drivers so I purged them and now I want to install/use the basic stock drivers
[22:34] <psilynt> Jordan_U: I was putzing around with trying to get the snapshots of the jdk, and I following a poorly written web guide, I believe I messed something up.
[22:34] <oly562> dpgk --list|grep -i ruby
[22:34] <rahduke> I cant boot into anything but command line
[22:34] <dstaubsauger> nightwalk: they're making an option for tabs on top in ff4, it'll be even the default on windows afaik
[22:35] <nightwalk> psilynt: your executable is probably missing the executable flag. Do 'chmod +x <your_executable_here>'
[22:35] <xangua>  nightwalk the current prebeta 7 does in windows vista and osx, it doesn't in linux :(
[22:35] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: start ubuntu in safe gfx mode (select recovery mode at bootup), then you'll have a graphic environment and can install the nvidia drivers normally
[22:35] <Jordan_U> psilynt: What is the output of "ls -l $(readlink -f /usr/bin/java)" ?
[22:35] <nightwalk> xangua: pfft...don' care about windows. Windows isn't posix-conformant :(
[22:36] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: i cant even run it in low gfx it wont do anything, just goes to command line after attempting
[22:36] <Kai696> perseus how to do that ?
[22:36] <nightwalk> Tons of plugins don't work with ff4/minefield yet either, and that's a *big* showstopper for me
[22:36] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: there was a point where it would get me to my login screen but after trying to login it would sh*t the bed and bring me back to login screen
[22:37] <rahduke> something is really really effed up
[22:37] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: and youre sure it's your nvidia driver?
[22:37] <balr0g> oly562, http://pastie.org/1245758 lot of output on both commands, that is the dpkg output
[22:37] <psilynt> Jordan_U: it returns the contents of the current working directory
[22:37] <rahduke> no, im not sure, i have no clue what it is....just assuming its an X error or an Nvidia error
[22:37] <j5098> hey guys,  i'm having a problem updated my repository list.  running apt-get update always results in "failed to fetch ..... Release.gpg" in 10.10.  But i can browse the the gpg url in my browser fine..
[22:38] <_Neytiri_> i am having a horrible time listening to audio its skipping badly on my system with my digital card
[22:38] <oly562> sb
[22:38] <Rob235> where are compiz settings stored, are they in the home dir?
[22:38] <balr0g> oly562, sb?
[22:38] <cjc2010> can anyone please recommend a bash scripting room?
[22:38] <nightwalk> rahduke: you can try 'Xorg -configure', but doing so may make fixing the problem harder. Might want to check that the nvidia module is loaded first ('lsmod |grep nvidia')
[22:38] <oly562> looks like ruby1.9 is install
[22:38] <oly562> stand by... good grief
[22:38] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: do you have any third party repos (ppas) active?
[22:38] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Are you sure you entered the command correctly? What is the output of just "readlink -f /usr/bin/java"?
[22:38] <oly562> sby = standing by
[22:38] <balr0g> oly562, yes it is, but why in the terminal it says The rybu program is not installed ??
[22:39] <balr0g> oly562, oh! i see
[22:39] <rahduke> nightwalk: ive done that and the nvida module shows up, however when i try to load it with "sudo modprobe nvidia" it fails to load
[22:39] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Very sure, did it twice when I realized what it did.... "readlink -f /usr/bin/java" returns nil
[22:39] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: nothing that would relate to graphics
[22:39] <nightwalk> rahduke: what kernel version?
[22:39] <rahduke> hang on ill tell ya
[22:39] <oly562> balr0g: im not a ruby programmer, i do see its installed though per your pastebin, like i ask before, what are you trying to do... i believe ruby is like a glue
[22:39] <Jordan_U> psilynt: What is the output of "readlink /usr/bin/java" ?
[22:39] <psilynt> Jordan_U: "ls -l /usr/bin/java" returns "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2010-10-24 15:47 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java"
[22:39] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: but something that relates to gnome and could cause the session/gdm to fail?
[22:40] <psilynt> /etc/alternatives/java
[22:40] <rahduke> 35-22
[22:40] <oly562> balr0g: no clue why your getting that error, how are you using ruby is the logical question now....
[22:40] <rahduke> nightwalk
[22:40] <Jordan_U> psilynt: And ls -l /etc/alternatives/java ?
[22:40] <balr0g> oly562, i need ruby to use RubyOnRails, Agile Web Development
[22:40] <nightwalk> rahduke: did you install the nvidia proprietary module via the installer from nvidia's website?
[22:40] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: what do u suggest i do? It was running fine for like over a week..... then i reset today and everything went to hell
[22:40] <psilynt> Jordan_U: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[22:41] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: reset what?
[22:41] <rahduke> nightwalk: all i did was enable the driver in hardware drivers, didnt install anything fancy
[22:41] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: when i reset my htpc today
[22:41] <oly562> balr0g: i assume you need to point the AWD to point to the bin that it needs... i have never used that b4. but logically it appears your are not configured right. maybe the AWD site has input on how to point paths so forth, no clue. anyone?
[22:41] <Jordan_U> psilynt: and ls -l /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java ?
[22:41] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: it was running for like 5 days b4 the reset
[22:42] <fallore> what do i have to do to make audio work over HDMI? this is for ubuntu 10.04 (or whichever is the last release with LTS)
[22:42] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Permission denied.  run with sudo?
[22:42] <balr0g> oly562, how to know the path for ruby and irb (the ruby interpreter), and how to know if that path is environment for the terminal, and how to add a path to the environment? or how to address this issue?
[22:42] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: can you login on the cli and do sudo startx?
[22:42] <oly562> :|
[22:42] <rahduke> ill try
[22:42] <nightwalk> rahduke: hmm....well, I know the default gcc (4.4) isn't what they used to build the 2.6.35 kernel I'm running here, and the kernel is picky about the version used to compile things matching up. Might try changing your /usr/bin/gcc link to /usr/bin/gcc-4.2, and re-install the package
[22:42] <dstaubsauger> maybe the error message contains some info
[22:42] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Ahh, so it's one of the directories whose permissions are bad.
[22:42] <oly562> balr0g: sorry your asking the wrong person... try another...
[22:43] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Can you post the guide that got you into this mess?
[22:43] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: "failed to load X" nvidia module not found
[22:43] <balr0g> oly562, ok, will keep seeking
[22:43] <nightwalk> rahduke: I don't think the ubuntu people would have made that obvious of a mistake though, so try it as a last resort
[22:43] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Sure, After I realized I'd botched it, I tried uninstalling and putting normal sun jre on. One moment.
[22:43] <rahduke> nightwalk: how do i do that?
[22:43] <rahduke> from command line
[22:43] <aconrad> hello, I am using vim in my terminal but I noticed that xterm_clipboard is disabled. Can I enable it somehow without recompiling? I wonder why this isn't set by default.
[22:44] <rahduke> and how can i install a newer or older kernel?
[22:44] <rahduke> from CLI
[22:44] <KB1JWQ> aconrad: :set xterm_clipboard=on?
[22:44] <nightwalk> rahduke: there's probably a way to do it through the 'alternatives' system, but I just did 'rm -f /usr/bin/gcc && ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.2 /usr/bin/gcc'
[22:44] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Did you at any point install a version of java that was not from a .deb or synaptic/apt?
[22:44] <nightwalk> Be *sure* that /usr/bin/gcc is actually a symlink before doing that command, though!
[22:44] <j5098> i'm having a problem updated my repository list.  running apt-get update always results in "failed to fetch ..... Release.gpg" in 10.10.  But i can browse the the gpg url in my browser fine..
[22:45] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Yes... posting link. http://strug.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/installing-java-7-snapshot-on-ubuntu/
[22:45] <aconrad> KB1JWQ: doesn't work
[22:45] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: that also appears in safe gfx mode??
[22:45] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: yea, thats what i tried to get into now
[22:45] <rahduke> and ijsut end up at command line
[22:46] <perseus> Kai696 sorry for late rep...  u can force mount using sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/mountpointname -f
[22:46] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Run the uninstaller for that, and in the future always install non-packaged software to either /usr/local/ or /opt/.
[22:47] <rahduke> nightwalk: im getting permission denied errors when i try that command
[22:47] <rahduke> running it with sudo as well
[22:47] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: try installing the package nvidia-glx
[22:47] <Omen_20> when u change the icon of a file or folder. Where is that information stored?
[22:48] <semitones> does anyone know how one would turn off the blacklight of a laptop? (laptop keys minimize the brightness but don't turn it off outright)
[22:48] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: that should reinstall the driver, but i have no idea whether it works
[22:48] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: no isntallation candidate
[22:48] <rahduke> i need to choose like the 185 driver or something
[22:48] <Jordan_U> psilynt: And unless you know you need Sun's java I'd just go with icedtea / openjdk.
[22:48] <spinningcompass> semitones: BIOS? It's probably hardware-specific. What make and model of laptop do you have?
[22:48] <nightwalk> rahduke: 'apt-get install linux-<type>-<version>'. <type> will normally be 'generic', though rt & vserver are other reasonable possibilities. Doing something like 'apt-get install linux-*' should give you an idea what's available
[22:48] <psilynt> Jordan_U: I know I need sun's java...
[22:49] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: what about nvidia-kernel-common and linux-restricted-modules? which packages did you purge?
[22:49] <oly562> question: i am receiving this error: we're sorry, the hulu player is not supported on 64 bit versions of Flash ubuntu
[22:49] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Out of curiosity, why?
[22:49] <oly562> :-/
[22:49] <ikonia> balr0g: type "ruby in a shell and hit tab a few times, no space eg: ruby<tab>
[22:49] <leaflock> i am having a problem with my wifi connection. it is very unstable, i have this mobo http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=Jg7gThXvovYfZO6F&templete=2, not sure which wifi chipset it has
[22:49] <nightwalk> rahduke: that's in reply to your question about dowgrading kernels, btw
[22:49] <Diverdude> How do i install the gstreamer library?
[22:49] <w3> could anyone tell me: if you use simple backup suite to backup your system, can you then restore the backed up system to a fresh install?
[22:49] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: i just chose the 180 driver, its installing now if that doesnt work ill try the common and restricted install
[22:49] <erUSUL> Diverdude: gstreamer is already installed
[22:49] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Game I'm running has a significant performance increase between the two.
[22:50] <psilynt> Jordan_U: and on my netbook, any tiny bit helps
[22:50] <utilitytrack> semitones: you can entirely turn off any screen. read $ man xrandr
[22:50] <balr0g> ikonia, i see, i think is installed with another name, this version
[22:50] <rahduke> nightwalk: what shoudl i type for <version>?
[22:50] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Once you've removed all manually installed java versions use "sudo update-alternatives --config java" to set things up to use the packaged version.
[22:50] <oly562> where can i find some some gladefile.glade templates to try out?
[22:50] <semitones> spinningcompass, i have a hp pavilion dm3 --- I can turn off the blacklight (and display) with "xset dpms force off," but the backlight always turns itself back on within a few minutes
[22:50] <semitones> utilitytrack, ^
[22:50] <balr0g> ikonia, it seems working with a new name
[22:51] <oly562> if im saying that right? lol
[22:51] <ikonia> balr0g: what name
[22:51] <balr0g> ikonia, thanks jeje
[22:51] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: if nothing works, you could uninstall all the nvidia driver crap left on your system, download the official binary from http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html and sudo sh that file in cli mode
[22:51] <balr0g> ikonia, it is working with ruby1.9.1 not ruby as before
[22:51] <bfinch> and NOW to bdale's git repo....whoo-whee
[22:51] <ikonia> balr0g: ok, so your missing a symlink, it's normally ln -s ruby1.9.1 /usr/bin/ruby
[22:51] <rahduke> dstaubsauger: how can i download that from the CLI
[22:52] <bfinch> (working on rocket flight telemetry stuff)
[22:52] <ikonia> balr0g: that symlink should have been setup at package install
[22:52] <oly562> balr0g: http://guides.rubyonrails.org/
[22:52] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: wget http://url.of/the?=driver
[22:52] <balr0g> ikonia, i dont understand what happened on installation...
[22:52] <spinningcompass> semitones: put "xset dpms 0 0 600" in the session startup; see if that makes a difference
[22:52] <psilynt> Jordan_U: update-alternatives --config java returns "There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java"
[22:52] <Diverdude> erUSUL, i see.... where do i find the gstreamer libs then?
[22:52] <utilitytrack> semitones: you should realize that in Linux you read the manual before running any command
[22:52] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: give you have inet access
[22:53] <ikonia> balr0g: I can't explain that as I didn't follow your install, but put a symlink from ruby1.9.1 to ruby and it will be fine
[22:53] <erUSUL> Diverdude: what are you trying to do ?
[22:53] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: *given
[22:53] <oly562> balr0g: http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/start?redirect=1
[22:53] <ikonia> oly562: that won't resovle his issue, his issue is a missing smylink
[22:53] <nightwalk> rahduke: '2.6.x', where 'x' is the bugfix version you want to install. 32 seems to be the safe choice, assuming it's in the repo for the version of ubuntu you're running
[22:53] <dstaubsauger> rahduke: otherwise, download it on another computer and use an usb stick, etc
[22:53] <Jordan_U> psilynt: What is the output of "dpkg -S /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java"?
[22:53] <oly562> ikonia: i mentioned to him before to point the paths properly
[22:53] <mao> anyone have a multitouch notebook working with ubuntu 10.10???
[22:53] <os390> hi! i boot my machine with and opcion in kernel acpi=off how i know if i am botting with this optin disable there is any comman  to check that? thx
[22:53] <semitones> utilitytrack, I refuse to read the manual further than I need to accomplish something
[22:53] <Diverdude> erUSUL, i need to use em in a python-program
[22:54] <ikonia> oly562: it's nothing to do with paths, he's missing a symlink
[22:54] <oly562> ikonia: i have never used ruby, but seems like its the issue
[22:54] <semitones> spinningcompass, thanks, I'll try it
[22:54] <ikonia> oly562:  a missing symlink is the issue, that's all
[22:54] <erUSUL> Diverdude: so you want the python bindings of gstreamer
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[22:54] <Benkinooby123> how can i find out what key's i am pressing?
[22:54] <Jordan_U> os390: cat /proc/cmdline
[22:54] <oly562> ikonia: ic
[22:54] <Diverdude> erUSUL, yeah
[22:54]  * spinningcompass blinks
[22:54] <oly562> ikonia: his ln -s isnt pointing to the right PATH
[22:54] <oly562> bin
[22:54] <Diverdude> erUSUL, i downloaded them from the homepage actually
[22:54] <ikonia> oly562: no
[22:54] <oly562> whatever it requires
[22:54] <balr0g> ikonia, tks, i already did the symlink, working now
[22:54] <nightwalk> rahduke: ...and actually, I recalled incorrectly. you'd need to do 'apt-get install linux-image-generic-2.6.x' to install the new (generic) kernel. You'd also need to do 'apt-get install linux-headers-generic-2.6.x' to install the development files which iirc are necessary for dkms to do its thing
[22:54] <ikonia> oly562: ln is a link command, nothign to do with path
[22:54] <erUSUL> Diverdude: this packages python-gst0.10*
[22:55] <ikonia> oly562: he is MISSING a symlink
[22:55] <psilynt> Jordan_U: dpkg: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java not found.
[22:55] <w3> could anyone tell me: if you use simple backup suite to backup your system, can you then restore the backed up system to a fresh install?
[22:55] <ikonia> balr0g: nice job, well done
[22:55] <utilitytrack> semitones: when you read the manual you get more information. and it's good for you.
[22:55] <Jordan_U> psilynt: Then you havent remove all of the manually installed jres successfully.
[22:55] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Grrrr....
[22:55] <oly562> ikonia: how did he fix it?
[22:56] <oly562> ikonia: syntax? thanks
[22:56] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Can't I just rm -r /usr/lib/jvm ?
[22:56] <balr0g> oly562, i already have the program
[22:56] <ikonia> oly562: created a symlink, that simple
[22:56] <tyfighter> does anyone know of a good program for a local chatroom for users (not irc)?
[22:56] <balr0g> oly562, only left is a symlink to invoke the pŕogram
[22:56] <semitones> utilitytrack, perhaps. But I'd rather spend my time reading something else, and just use my computer as a tool to further that end.
[22:56] <Diverdude> erUSUL, are they in the repo?
[22:56] <bfinch> what does that mean ?
[22:56] <nightwalk> tyfighter: xmpp
[22:57] <Diverdude> erUSUL, the python bindings
[22:57] <utilitytrack> tyfighter: use XMPP. it's excellent for your own chat rooms
[22:57] <oly562> ikonia: look, ln -s creates a symbolic link. i know this, in the man page its called a symbolic link, not a symlink
[22:57] <oly562> good grief
[22:57] <anygivenname> fail2ban is working but ssh is not logging attempts in log.....sshd_config is set to DEBUG......any ideas ?
[22:57] <erUSUL> Diverdude: correct
[22:57] <leaflock> i am having a problem with my wifi connection. it is very unstable under ubuntu, can someone help?
[22:57] <erUSUL> !info python-gst0.10
[22:57] <bfinch> geesh.... "i don't want to read the manualoften translates into "i want YOU to read the manual and then tell ME"
[22:57] <semitones> utilitytrack, but anyway that's not a conversation for #ubuntu
[22:57] <ikonia> oly562:  symlink is a symbolic link, I know how to make one, balr0g has just made one and resolved the issue
[22:57] <Jordan_U> psilynt: I have no idea what other files it may have installed or where.That's why it's best, in the future, to install things with a prefix of /usr/local/. That way you know that any files in /usr/local/ are from manual installs.
[22:57] <oly562> ikonia: i do as well
[22:57] <Benkinooby123> exit
[22:57] <ikonia> anygivenname: set it to auth
[22:57] <w3> could anyone tell me: if you use simple backup suite to backup your system, can you then restore the backed up system to a fresh install?
[22:57] <ikonia> oly562: then why are you saying what you are saying
[22:58] <oly562> ikonia: i am right
[22:58] <anygivenname> ikonia: what do u mean I should do ?
[22:58] <bfinch> w3, how big is you install ?
[22:58] <spinningcompass> w3: Are you talking about a specific backup suite? Yes, you can. There are 4-5 tools that'll do that.
[22:58] <ikonia> oly562: your not making any sense
[22:58] <ikonia> oly562: he was missing a symlink, he created one, problem solved
[22:58] <tyfighter> utilitytrack: easy setup?
[22:58] <ikonia> anygivenname: change the log level to auth not debug
[22:58] <kavitha> how to record sound playing to a file
[22:58] <w3> bfarrow, which install? the fresh one or the one I'm backing up?
[22:58] <w3> bfinch, , which install? the fresh one or the one I'm backing up?
[22:58] <balr0g> oly562, symlink is short for symbolic link
[22:58] <nightwalk> tyfighter: yes, xmpp is easy to set up if you use prosody
[22:58] <oly562> balr0g: lolol
[22:59] <kavitha> lol
[22:59] <anygivenname> AUTH or AUTHENTICATION ?
[22:59] <w3> spinningcompass, im not sure what you are referring to "that'll do that"
[22:59] <tyfighter> nightwalk: thanks
[22:59] <bfinch> w3, big is the systemyou want to backup ?
[22:59] <ikonia> ?
[22:59] <ikonia> anygivenname: ooh, not sure from memory
[22:59] <spinningcompass> w3: bacula, mkcdrec, mondo, partimage
[22:59] <ikonia> anygivenname: I think it's "AUTH"
[22:59] <Diverdude> erUSUL, hmm it seems i already have it: python-gst0.10 is already the newest version.
[22:59] <oly562> balr0g: yes and linux is an operating system
[22:59] <kavitha> ?
[22:59] <utilitytrack> semitones: you are depriving yourself of info.
[23:00] <bfinch> i'm gone for a bit.... bbML
[23:00] <bfinch> . .
[23:00] <kavitha> ....
[23:00] <spinningcompass> '.' * n
[23:00] <Diverdude> erUSUL, is there an easy way of finding out where ubuntu has put the files?
[23:00] <balr0g> hmm.. yes.
[23:00] <Jordan_U> psilynt: If you install another JRE via the package manager it should supercede the manual one (you can confirm with "sudo update-alternatives --config java) and will *probably* not conflict with the files installed by the manual installer.
[23:01] <erUSUL> Diverdude: why do you want to know that? probably you only have to put an « import gst » or something similar in your python script for everything to work
[23:01] <kavitha> can any help me put of recording the sound played to a file
[23:01] <nightwalk> leaflock: are you using a usb wifi adapter, by any chance?
[23:01] <erUSUL> Diverdude: anyway « dpkg -L packagename » is what you want
[23:01] <w3> bfinch, the system is about 40 gb
[23:02] <kavitha> whta
[23:02] <leaflock> nightwalk: no, i have an asus p5k mobo which have an onboard wifi card
[23:02] <ImaLamer> can i begin an install of another distribution under ubuntu?
[23:02] <Diverdude> erUSUL, well no...i tried that actually....from gstreamer import *    did not work
[23:02] <erUSUL> Diverdude: is import pygst
[23:02] <tyfighter> nightwalk: what I want is for users that are ssh'd into my server to easy be able to connect to a chat room to talk, similar to IRC but just local to those users
[23:02] <psilynt> Jordan_U: I'm going with the very crude 'sudo rm -r /usr/lib/jvm' and relying on the package manager to remove/reinstall what's necessary in that dir
[23:02] <w3> spinningcompass, i am using Simple Backup Suite
[23:02] <erUSUL> Diverdude: http://pygstdocs.berlios.de/pygst-tutorial/playbin.html
[23:02] <oly562> question: i am receiving this error: we're sorry, the hulu player is not supported on 64 bit versions of Flash ubuntu
[23:02] <nightwalk> kavitha: Not sure what you're asking for
[23:03] <oly562> ikonia: any suggestions that nor not 32bit referred
[23:03] <ikonia> oly562: pardon ?
[23:03] <anygivenname> ikonia:
[23:03] <anygivenname> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[23:03] <anygivenname> /etc/ssh/sshd_config line 22: unsupported log level 'AUTH'
[23:03] <oly562> ikonia: everyone is suggesting go use 32bit ndiswrappers so forth so on, i would like to hear your input....
[23:03] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Worked like a charm. Thank you VERY VERY much for your help!
[23:04] <utilitytrack> tyfighter: "easy" it's evaluation
[23:04] <Jordan_U> psilynt: You're welcome.
[23:04] <psilynt> Jordan_U: I'll take your advice about /usr/local from now on =)
[23:04] <spinningcompass> w3: Oh, it's an actual program... Interesting.
[23:04] <oly562> question: i am receiving this error: we're sorry, the hulu player is not supported on 64 bit versions of Flash ubuntu.  i need some suggestions that are not backwards compatible
[23:04] <oly562> ill be in the Linux room, brb
[23:04] <nightwalk> oly562: don't use hulu? :)
[23:04] <oly562> nightwalk: thats a windows user frame of mind answer...
[23:04] <oly562> brb
[23:05] <dstaubsauger> just wanna drop this awesome link here, in case someone reads it: remove all those space-eating things from the indicator applet http://superuser.com/questions/73200/remove-or-add-entry-in-indicator-applet-ubuntu-gnome
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[23:05] <xangua> oly562: use the 32bit plugin then
[23:05] <gbear14275> Hello, I just bought a HP procurve switch and am trying to set it up using a serial connection.  I'm having a little trouble as I've never used a serial connection before and was wondering if anyone might be able to answer a few questions.  First is... How do I know which serial connection to use?  It looks like I have 4 on my machine even though I only have one port for the cable
[23:05] <erUSUL> oly562: we can not do anything to make force hulu to be compatible with ubuntu/linux
[23:05] <rahduke> i give up
[23:05] <rahduke> im just gunna re-install ubuntu
[23:05] <ikonia> anygivenname: sorry, check the parameters, I'm clearly working wrongly from memory
[23:05] <rahduke> goddamn it
[23:05] <DrManhattan> oh no - if you guys have raised the ire of the GNAA you're screwed.
[23:05] <ikonia> oly562: if the app is 32bit only, I'd use a 32bit browser to deal with it,
[23:05] <nightwalk> oly562: seriously though. if they made it a point to not let you use 64 bit flash, there's probably very little you can do about it, other than use a 32 bit browser & 32 bit flash
[23:05] <kaie-> hahaha DrManhattan
[23:05] <oly562> ikonia: ? are you new to linux?
[23:05] <ikonia> oly562: not at all, as you well know
[23:05] <zatan> Hi, is anybody can help me with FONTS on SKYPE ?
[23:06] <DrManhattan> GNAA is a legendary association of trolls.
[23:06] <DrManhattan> tjeu
[23:06] <DrManhattan> theyre like Sauron
[23:06] <Flannel> DrManhattan: Just drop it.
[23:06] <kaie-> ive never heard of it
[23:06] <anygivenname> ikonia: SyslogFacility is AUTH
[23:06] <ImaLamer> i can load hulu using 64 bit flash and google chrome
[23:06] <anygivenname> ikonia: so AUTH is right
[23:06] <ikonia> anygivenname: ahhh, well spotted, not ssh
[23:06] <DrManhattan> Flannel, ok, no problem. Not my issue to deal with anyhow.
[23:06] <ikonia> anygivenname: what file are you looking at for your ssh logging ?
[23:07] <xangua> ImaLamer: flash comes integratet with google chome, surely it uses the 32bit plugin
[23:07] <xangua> integrated*
[23:07] <anygivenname> ikonia: /var/log/auth.log
[23:07] <psilynt> Jordan_U: Have a paypal?
[23:07] <ikonia> anygivenname: for interest, check the syslog
[23:07] <w3> does anyone know the answer?
[23:07] <ne7work> please someone query me to see one my web project please :)
[23:07] <ImaLamer> then the solution (easiest one...) is to use Chrome?
[23:07] <jMyles> repeatthe question?
[23:08] <anygivenname> ikonia: where is syslog ?
[23:08] <w3> could anyone tell me: if you use simple backup suite to backup your system, can you then restore the backed up system to a fresh install?
[23:08] <nightwalk> zatan: Skype seems to use the styling set in qt &/or kde. That's about all the help I can be, though
[23:08] <utilitytrack> w3: which your question
[23:08] <ikonia> anygivenname: /var/log
[23:08] <ImaLamer> Sbackup has worked for me
[23:08] <gbear14275> anyone have a nice serial console howto?  Trying to learn how to configure a switch using serial port... not making the best progress
[23:08] <w3> utilitytrack, ^^
[23:08] <jMyles> w3 in osx there is a programcalled carboncloner
[23:08] <zatan> nightwalk, I have installed QT config, but fonts its still looks rubbish.
[23:08] <Diverdude> erUSUL, aha, nice...thx
[23:09] <ne7work> hello all please someone come on query me to see one my web project :) and tell me what he think about that project. :)
[23:09] <jMyles> find the equivalent
[23:09] <zatan> nightwalk, on x-chat monospace looks nice, on SKYPE looks crap
[23:09] <w3> jMyles, im not using osx
[23:09] <jMyles> you need somthing that can copy your disk bit by bit
[23:09] <jMyles> even empty space
[23:09] <nightwalk> zatan: I never bothered with skype's interface. I just installed skype4pidgin, and used it through pidgin
[23:10] <jMyles> w3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500621
[23:10] <nightwalk> Too silly for me to have to mess with qt & kde styling when I use gnome
[23:10] <zatan> nightwalk,  thanks
[23:12] <DrManhattan> Hooray for Arial!
[23:12] <anygivenname> ikonia: i dont see that syslog has registered any specially that my fail2ban settings were not applied
[23:12] <cdavis> Is there a channel or team for Ubuntu Answers?
[23:13] <ikonia> anygivenname: so your not seeing any sucessful/failed auth attempts in the syslog
[23:13] <utilitytrack> cdavis: No, for questions only :))
[23:13] <ikonia> cdavis: not that I'm aware of
[23:13]  * spinningcompass hits the rimshot
[23:13] <w3> jMyles, i dont want to clone my hdd
[23:13] <anygivenname> ikonia: frankly dunno if it is in there or not
[23:14] <ikonia> anygivenname: anything like this
[23:14] <ikonia> anygivenname: Oct 24 23:11:29 alesi sshd[2733]: input_userauth_request: invalid user admin
[23:14] <nightwalk> w3: Not sure it helps much, but if you make a separate home partition and follow proper procedure and save all your files to your home directory, you can then reinstall without having to go through a backup & restore.
[23:14] <ikonia> anygivenname:
[23:14] <ikonia> anygivenname: Oct 24 21:57:34 alesi sshd[1716]: Invalid user mambo from <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:14] <ikonia> anygivenname: stuff like that
[23:14] <Tom1> i just did a network upgrade to 10.10 and I messed up the boot menu somehow. Is anyone available to help please?
[23:15] <ikonia> anygivenname: Oct 24 23:14:01 alesi sshd[2763]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user secure01  by (uid=0)
[23:15] <ikonia> anygivenname: that sort of thing
[23:15] <erUSUL> Tom1: define "messed up the boot menu"
[23:15] <utilitytrack> Tom1: There is bug in last GRUB bootloader
[23:15] <w3> I'd like to have a fully encrypted system. Right now I have an unencrypted system, so I'm trying to somehow backup only the vital bits of my system so i can write them over a new fully encrypted install.
[23:15] <nightwalk> w3: The only other directory you might want to save would be /etc, and I find git is the easiest way to make 'backups' of that directory.
[23:15] <jose__> es posible compartir en red carpeta home cifrada con permiso de escritura desde los otros equipos
[23:15] <oly562> anygivenname: what is the issue?
[23:16] <Tom1> okay, so I originally had 9.04 so I'm not sure if I ever got grub2?
[23:16] <anygivenname> ikonia: no there is not such lines
[23:16] <Tom1> I did network upgrades up to 10.10 but did not replace menu.lst when it asked me
[23:16] <ikonia> anygivenname: check in auth
[23:16] <anygivenname> Oly562:I connect to my Ubuntu remotely......I need Ubuntu to 1) keep log of attempts 2) really limit the attempts to 3 3) ban the IP after 3 attempts
[23:16] <utilitytrack> Tom1: you rushed with upgrades
[23:16] <ikonia> anygivenname: sorry in auth.log
[23:16] <Tom1> when I boot up now, I see 10.04 and windows 7 only (like I did before 10.10)
[23:17] <Tom1> sorry to be unclear (i did that over a period of time)
[23:17] <Tom1> things were working fine with 10.04 for a while
[23:17] <jMyles> how can i change the names of the operating systems in GRUB?
[23:17] <oly562> ikonia: was right, /var/log/auth.log
[23:17] <anygivenname> ikonia: yes that's the issue i raised at the 1st place....ssh does not register such logs in auth.log
[23:17] <oly562> use iptables aka UFW to deal with too many attempts
[23:17] <Tom1> I am still able to boot into windows 7, but if i try to boot into 10.04 the display stops working
[23:17] <ikonia> anygivenname: does it put anything in there ?
[23:17] <w3> nightwalk, do you have any ideas given what i just said?
[23:17] <Tom1> 10.10 does not appear on the boot menu at all
[23:18] <utilitytrack> Tom1: then you not properly made upgrade :)) try again
[23:18] <anygivenname> ikonia: yes it puts
[23:18] <oly562> anygivenname: log the rest to a file or remote file on your net...
[23:18] <Tom1> how can i try the upgrade again if I can't get into ubuntu?
[23:18] <nightwalk> w3: depends on how you partitioned the system originally, and how much space you have free on any auxillary or windows partition(s)
[23:18] <DragonKeeper> how do i stop a game turning off my secondary monitor
[23:18] <oly562> scp it to remote locations, make sure you set up your keys to do that with openssh
[23:19] <ikonia> oly562: hang on - the problem it's not logging, one step at a time
[23:19] <utilitytrack> Tom1: you tell that 10.04 is in boot menu.
[23:19] <oly562> anygivenname: maybe rsync, something along those lines
[23:19] <oly562> ikonia: oh ok, i listen...
[23:19] <Tom1> utilitytrack: yes, it is
[23:19] <oly562> sby....
[23:19] <utilitytrack> Tom1: And??
[23:19] <thelinx> Hi, I'm having some issues with the Unity interface. When I do anything that "moves" (e.g. software center fading applications in and out) I get massive lag. I don't have any issues like that with the regular interface
[23:19] <zatan> nightwalk,  are u still here ?
[23:19] <Tom1> utilitytrack: it doesn't work if I select it...the display just turns off
[23:19] <anygivenname> oly562: I dont get u
[23:20] <gbear14275> anyone able to point me to or help me with a serial console?
[23:20] <ikonia> anygivenname: what's in auth.log
[23:20] <nightwalk> zatan: only when someone calls my name :)
[23:20] <gbear14275> point me to a howto*
[23:20] <spinningcompass> nightwalk: ...and it's like a little prayer, I imagine.
[23:20] <Tom1> utilitytrack: also, if i act as if I'm going to install 10.10 off the live cd, the 10.10 linux partition shows up
[23:20] <Tom1> I'm hoping it's just a grub problem maybe?
[23:20] <nightwalk> spinningcompass: lol
[23:20] <zatan> nightwalk,  look i just installed skype4pidgin but there is no, PASSWROD field how come ?
[23:20] <utilitytrack> Tom1: you can't boot in ubuntu anymore?
[23:21] <Tom1> utilitytrack: correct
[23:21] <oly562> anygivenname: iptables aka UFW in ubuntu, man ufw, log remote attempts with crontab to a file you can back up somewhere else remotely, makes it harder for hacks to erase tracks. if i am following you correctly per your statement to me
[23:21] <nightwalk> zatan: not sure what you mean by that
[23:21] <ikonia> oly562: stop for a momoent, the problem is it's not logging at the moment
[23:21] <anygivenname> ikonia: all actions but not the hacking attempts
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, how can I make Ubuntu not give me the warning that my drive is failing S.M.A.R.T please
[23:22] <ikonia> anygivenname: can you paste a little bit for me
[23:22] <ikonia> anygivenname: use a pastebin
[23:22] <jags> hey I'm messing around with screenlets in lucid, I set the sysmonitor to startup but when I reboot its replaced by the cpumeter screenlet instead, its weird screenlets replace themselves with other screenlets upon reboot
[23:22] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: disable smartd or disable smart in the bios
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[23:22]  * spinningcompass blinks
[23:22] <anygivenname> ikonia: i have just tried to login to my Ubunutu remotely from another machine & I used wrong password & those attempts were not registered on auth.log
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: cheers dude, will do both :)
[23:22] <oly562> someone is bored
[23:22] <Kai696> Woah 4chan raid here or what
[23:23] <|_ocke> GNAA is still around?
[23:23] <|_ocke> weird
[23:23] <Kai696> Ikonia care to lend a hand for a sec? trying to mount /sda3 but it's not working :( even with ext4 tags
[23:23] <utilitytrack> Tom1: such troubles are difficult to solve in chat. Open thread on forum and definitely describe the problem there
[23:23] <oly562> whats that users ip... let me have a crack at him
[23:23] <ikonia> Kai696: is this the one you DD's earlier ?
[23:23] <zatan> nightwalk,  I just installed skype4pidgin , now I am trying to PIDGIN > Manage Accounts > ADD > SKYPE, and there i can just enter my USERNAME in one field, where i need to enter my password ?
[23:23] <Kai696> no that one is complete, im trying to mount the parition its on now
[23:23] <_Dude_> |_ocke: lol i was thinking the same thing
[23:23] <ikonia> anygivenname: can you pastebin a little of what's in your authlog please
[23:23] <Kai696> so i can access the files
[23:24] <|_ocke> l0de radio hour was associated with GNAA and i found some pretty awesome music because of it
[23:24] <ikonia> Kai696: I told you, you cannot mount it
[23:24] <anygivenname> oly562: pls tell me how to go for iptables
[23:24] <Kai696> how can i access the files ?
[23:24] <Tom1> utilitytrack: sorry, which forum should i use?
[23:24] <ikonia> Kai696: I explained earlier, you have copied block DRIVE, to a partition
[23:24] <oly562> anygivenname: follow ikonia's questions
[23:24] <|_ocke> i never would have found out about Cage if not for the GNAA
[23:24] <|_ocke> heh
[23:24] <ikonia> Kai696: you have to dd them off, as I walked through to you earlier
[23:24] <Kai696> wouldn't that kill the OS Ikonia?
[23:24] <Kai696> (reinstalled windows 7)
[23:24] <ikonia> Kai696: yes it would
[23:24] <oly562> anygivenname: one step at a time... he is on the right track...
[23:24] <ikonia> Kai696: it would overwrite your OS
[23:24] <utilitytrack> Tom1: Any popular Linux forum, but I recomment ubuntuforums.org
[23:24] <anygivenname> ok
[23:25] <oly562> anygivenname: i would like to see that pastebin as well
[23:25] <oly562> paste in room please
[23:25] <Kai696> is there ANY possible ways to view individual files on there then? at all ?
[23:25] <anygivenname> gimme link to pastbin pls
[23:25] <ikonia> Kai696: you'll have to dd it off to a safe location, then mount it
[23:25] <Tom1> utilitytrack: okay thanks, do you have any clues what the general issue might be? I think both operating systems are on my machine, it's just not pointing to ubuntu 10.10 correctly or something
[23:25] <ikonia> Kai696: keep in mind that image has the boot sector, partition table, everything in it
[23:25] <ikonia> Kai696: I did warn you of this at the time
[23:26] <ikonia> !pastebin > anygivenname
[23:26] <Kai696> I know but i figured i would still be able to access the files
[23:26] <utilitytrack> Tom1: there is problems in GRUB configuration, I think
[23:26] <ikonia> Kai696: but I told you you could not
[23:26] <ikonia> Kai696: I told you it would not be mountable
[23:26] <Kai696> well whats the point in DD rescue then
[23:27] <darkdrgn2k3> hi all
[23:27] <Kai696> should be called "dd_backup"
[23:27] <darkdrgn2k3> im trying to PXEBOOT an ubuntu install
[23:27] <rooks> how to tell mplayer to shut itself on buffer underrun ?
[23:27] <ikonia> Kai696: it wasn't what you needed, and I told you that at the time
[23:27] <ikonia> Kai696: you wanted a file system backup, not a block copy of a device
[23:27] <darkdrgn2k3> is this correct?
[23:27] <darkdrgn2k3> APPEND initrd=FE.U/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic root=<IP_ADDRESS>:/pxe/FE.U rw
[23:27] <nightwalk> zatan: you're right. It's that way here, too. It's been quite some time since I messed with it, so I don't remember exactly how it works. The skype api probably handles the password requests & such itself, though. Just set your username and try it.
[23:27] <Kai696> :P so i can export these files to another partition, then do a file system backup of the partition?
[23:28] <donvitoo> i use phpsysinfo but when i go to check Distro name says Unknown how to fix that?
[23:28] <ikonia> Kai696: you can dd those files to another DISK (not partition) mount that disk, and do a file system backup
[23:28] <DragonKeeper> everytime i run a game (doesnt matter what one) my second screen turns off or goes black ......... how do i make it show the desktop instead
[23:28] <Tom1> utilitytrack: okay, thank you
[23:28] <donvitoo> http://www.agsaserv1.com/index.php?disp=static
[23:28] <utilitytrack> DragonKeeper: you use a proprietart nvidia drivers?
[23:28] <donvitoo> how to fix the distro name please?
[23:29] <DragonKeeper> utilitytrack  ATI drivers
[23:29] <darkdrgn2k3> any one know
[23:29] <anygivenname> http://paste.ubuntu.com/519429/
[23:29] <Steven_Krebs> anyone in here who uses the latest gnome shell and is up for a chat with someone interested in trying it out?
[23:29] <Kai696> oaky well i have another disk, but it's not reading it properly from sudo fdisk -l (its attached via USB; sata to usb)
[23:29] <ikonia> anygivenname: Oct 24 22:39:05 yassero sshd[2547]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:29] <ikonia> anygivenname: there is a failure
[23:30] <Raydiation> hi is intel gma 950 still having problems in 10.10
[23:30] <Wanusa_w> hey guys, i need some help to moun my cd devide...
[23:30] <anygivenname> i will try to hack now & send u what it logs
[23:31] <Wanusa_w> it do not appear in fstab
[23:31] <she_dyed> donvitoo did you try conky to see if it gives out distro name corectly
[23:31] <darkdrgn2k3> is this correct?:   APPEND initrd=FE.U/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic root=<IP_ADDRESS>:/pxe/FE.U rw
[23:31] <oly562> anygivenname: pastebin?
[23:31] <w3> can anyone tell me how to restore from backup using Simple Backup Suite
[23:31] <ikonia> oly562: http://paste.ubuntu.com/519429/
[23:32] <oly562> ikonia: thanks
[23:32] <anygivenname> ok now I tried 5 times with wrong passowords...although fail2ban was set on 3 attempts only !
[23:32] <anygivenname> let me see auth.log
[23:32] <DragonKeeper> anyone ?
[23:32] <Benkinooby> hi, the multimedia keys are working under gnome but not under fluxbox. i tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys because i thought this would set the keys "globally" or am i missing something?
[23:33] <oly562> ikonia: what do you gather he wants to do? first step
[23:33] <DragonKeeper> everytime i run a game (doesnt matter what one) my second screen turns off or goes black ......... how do i make it show the desktop instead
[23:33] <Benkinooby> DragonKeeper, ?
[23:33] <Benkinooby> DragonKeeper, hm, that's a tough question. even would not know where to start. it think it is better to ask in #xorg
[23:34] <DragonKeeper> ok
[23:34] <Tom1> Ubuntu 10.10 does not appear on my boot menu after upgrade...does anyone have any ideas please? thanks
[23:34] <she_dyed> i dont think you can though DragonKeeper
[23:34] <edbian> Tom1, What does appear?
[23:34] <FsTluxe> I run ubuntu @ htc HD2 ()..
[23:34] <nightwalk> DragonKeeper: wine games, or linux games?
[23:34] <coz_> Tom1,  you mean the grub menu  .. yes?
[23:34] <Tom1> the boot menu looks like it did before i upgraded to 10.10
[23:34] <earthshade> When I click the little envelope in the top right corner, it only says "chat" and "broadcast",  why doesn't it say "mail"?
[23:34] <Benkinooby> DragonKeeper, if you are out of luck there come back and try here again. usually in #xorg it takes more time until some1 responds so be patient
[23:35] <Tom1> i see 10.04 (which doesn't work if i try to use it) and windows 7 (which still works)
[23:35] <DragonKeeper> anything thats fullscreen
[23:35] <coz_> Tom1,  you are choosing the top most entry on the list   yes?
[23:35] <Tom1> yes
[23:35] <anygivenname> nothing logged....lasted is 15 mins ago
[23:35] <Tom1> i modified menu.lst before though and didn't replace it during the upgrade
[23:35] <anygivenname> lastest is 15 mins ago
[23:35] <coz_> Tom1,  ok  and it wont boot... just it just sit there...or does text  show at all ....?
[23:35] <Tom1> is this a grub/grub2 problem?
[23:36] <she_dyed> DragonKeeper: back then you set it to Metamodes "res1 null" but i doubt it will show the desktop
[23:36] <Tom1> the display turns off completely actually
[23:36] <coz_> Tom1,  if there is a grub issue  I have not seen it
[23:36] <earthshade> Ilovefairuz: u there?
[23:36] <anygivenname> ikonia, oly562: nothing logged now....lastest is 15 mins ago
[23:36] <Tom1> is there a way to purge grub and start over or something?
[23:37] <Raydiation1> hi is intel gma 950 still having problems in 10.10?
[23:37] <Kai696> lets say we restore the drive how can i get indivudual files off o f it Ikonia
[23:37] <anygivenname> ikonia, oly562: so the trials I have just done were not logged in auth.log
[23:37] <coz_> Tom1,  well there is a way to reinstall grub2
[23:37] <coz_> Tom1,  let me get the link  hold on
[23:37] <nightwalk> DragonKeeper: Just had to make sure the problem wasn't confined to wine, because the #xorg probably wouldn't help with that. As it is I'm going to say...what Benkinooby said :)
[23:37] <DrManhattan> why did anyone MAKE grub2?
[23:37] <DrManhattan> there was nothing wrong with the original grub
[23:37] <coz_> Tom1,    http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[23:37] <ikonia> anygivenname: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config search for SyslogFacility
[23:38] <DragonKeeper> ok  cheers for the help anyway
[23:38] <coz_> Tom1,  if you try that..please read through it a few times to become familiar with it
[23:38] <anygivenname> ikonia, oly562: & even my fail2ban config settings were not applied....i mean with regard to 3 attempts max for example
[23:38] <ikonia> anygivenname: make sure it is set to AUTHPRIV
[23:38] <anygivenname> it is on AUTH
[23:38] <ikonia> anygivenname: set it to AUTHPRIV
[23:38] <ikonia> anygivenname: /etc/ssh/sshd_config SyslogFacility=AUTHPRIV
[23:38] <ikonia> anygivenname: restart sshd then
[23:39] <anygivenname> ok
[23:39] <Tom1> coz_: I think I tried a procedure very similar to that already but the grub menu didn't change upon restart
[23:39] <oly562> is learning.... always learning lol
[23:39] <earthshade> When I click the little envelope in the top right corner, it only says "chat" and "broadcast",  why doesn't it say "mail"?
[23:39] <foobarbecue> Hi all. I wanted to get my tablet to rotate the screen automatically when I rotated it, so I found some script on some forum and installed it and it did just that. Now I've decided I don't like that behavior any more, but can't remember what script I used or where I put it or how it's triggered. Silly me. Any ideas?
[23:39] <nightwalk> DrManhattan: nothing may have been wrong with grub for your uses, but there were limitations. So which is better? Pushing more advanced features that bring lots of new bugs with them onto people that don't need the extra features, or branching and allowing people to choose which to use?
[23:39] <coz_> Tom1,  then the install may have failed at some point....did you check the cd for errors?
[23:40] <Benkinooby> Tom1, afaik working on menu.lst is outdated. if you use 10.04 you sue grub2 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[23:40] <Tom1> also, if i use the live cd and act like i'm going to install 10.10 I can see a windows and an ubuntu 10.10 partition on the disk already
[23:40] <oly562> can anyone play this vid - http://www.hulu.com/watch/187465/sanctuary-firewall  using FF 64bit? if so, can i see your configs, plugins, so forth? thanks
[23:40] <RoC_MasterMind> Anyone else get a boot hang after installing ubuntu server to an iscsi root?  I get this: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9383/screenshotwrw.png
[23:40] <Benkinooby> Tom1 the best thing to do is to use a live system
[23:40] <ikonia> anygivenname: can you also show me your ssh jail config for fail2ban
[23:40] <Tom1> a live system?
[23:40] <ikonia> oly562: there is no config, flash either works, or doesn't
[23:40] <DrManhattan> nightwalk, I would say letting people choose, but then again, I spend most of my day passing gas in front of the PC
[23:40] <anygivenname> ok
[23:40] <coz_> Tom1,  yes   it probably  partitioned the drive and install ubuntu but apparenlty  the install is a bit broken
[23:40] <anygivenname> where is it located ?
[23:40] <earthshade> Can someone please help me
[23:40] <anygivenname> i have restarted ssh
[23:41] <ikonia> anygivenname: look in /etc/fail2ban
[23:41] <oly562> ikonia: i dont understand....
[23:41] <Benkinooby> Tom1 like the CD you mentionen before. if ouy have the cd running you need a terminal and then use the command "chroot"
[23:41] <anygivenname> will also try while u check my fail2ban
[23:41] <ikonia> oly562: flash on linux, especially 64bit is flakey, there isn't a config to "fix it"
[23:41] <coz_> Tom1,   y ou can simply overwrite the current install with a fesh install BUT   when you boot into the live cd...you sould see a keyboard logo at the bottom of the screen.. when you see that,,hit enter to get to a menu  ...there you want to check the cd for errors or  check file system   however it is worded
[23:41] <oly562> ikonia: i guess im asking for how they set it up to work.... paths symbolic links, so forth... thats what i mean
[23:41] <ikonia> oly562: paths/symlinks won't matter
[23:42] <Tom1> Benkinooby: I tried doing that, but the menu didn't change
[23:42] <oly562> ikonia: i have gotten it to work flawlessly, however, not with Hula vids, as I have repeated umpteen times now
[23:42] <oly562> ikonia: hmmm. interesting view
[23:42] <ikonia> oly562: it either works or it doesn't, it's a poor situation, but it's how it is
[23:42] <Tom1> coz_: okay, i will double-check the disk for errors thank you
[23:42] <ikonia> oly562: yes, and it either works or doesn't, it works with some stuff, not with others,
[23:42] <Tom1> is there a way to just "flash" grub2 completely and make it forget whatever menu.lst stuff I was using previously?
[23:42] <oly562> ikonia: i understand, but if we stop trying to make things work we will not be better than windoze users
[23:42] <Benkinooby> Tom1 did you try this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 also you need to run someting like grub-update or something to generate the new grub2 settings
[23:42] <coz_> Tom1,  if it has errors let someone here know... if I am not here there are many who can tell you how to check the iso image  when you re download it before you burn it
[23:43] <ikonia> oly562: there is nothing to configure, it's a closed source app - you can't change anything
[23:43] <oly562> ikonia: i have gotten things to work no matter how hard or unreasonable it seemed
[23:43] <she_dyed> its hulu that doesn't bother with playing nice
[23:43] <dancios> is there any library/application that can write rtsp video strem on hdd ?
[23:43] <oly562> ikonia: i understand the hurdles
[23:43] <earthshade> I have a really basic question
[23:43] <coz_> Tom1,   then of course you want to run that check file integrity option before you install it
[23:43] <ikonia> oly562: a.) 64bit flash is dead/not supported b.) its closed sourced compiled app - you can't change anything
[23:43] <Benkinooby> Tom1 what you need is update-grub2
[23:43] <anygivenname> jail ==> http://paste.ubuntu.com/519434/
[23:43] <oly562> ikonia: i guess i am asking for the link to the howto, that no one has or is responding to at the moment, i better go search more on the net, i usually find what im looking for, but i did want to hear some input, thanks
[23:44] <oly562> ikonia: got it, thanks
[23:44] <she_dyed> earthshade: but without remembering what that script or app you ran, we might need more info
[23:44] <Tom1> Benkinooby: use that during the chroot process?
[23:44] <ikonia> anygivenname: it's set to 6 attempts,
[23:44] <manhunter> hi
[23:44] <earthshade> she_dyed: What do you mean? I just rebooted and its gone... Im kinda a noon at ubuntu
[23:45] <ikonia> anygivenname: you have two entries the same
[23:45] <ikonia> anygivenname: get rid of the first set
[23:45] <nightwalk> oly562: as others have said, flash is flaky on linux. Best solution I've found so far is to just use a downloader plugin and play the media in a normal media player app.
[23:45] <earthshade> *noob
[23:45] <oly562> boob
[23:45] <Kai696> toop
[23:45] <earthshade> Lola
[23:45] <manhunter> hello
[23:45] <earthshade> Z
[23:45] <oly562> nightwalk: as i have said, its not flaky for me, mileage may vary
[23:45] <manhunter> reboot
[23:45] <Tom1> coz_: I am checking the disk for errors now
[23:45] <earthshade> she_dyed: Any ideas?
[23:46] <anygivenname> nothing....latest is jail that i edited for u.......Oct 25 00:42:41 yassero sudo:  yassero : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/yassero ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/gedit /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf
[23:46] <ikonia> oly562: it can depend on anything as simple as hardware, and the site that wraps it, your experience will vary dependingo n many many things, the sad thing is, nothing can be changed
[23:46] <nightwalk> oly562: my point was, downloader plugins *always* works. The same can't be said for flash
[23:46] <Benkinooby> Tom1 yes, while you are chrooted in. if you chroot to you system on the hhd away from the live system, you can work like it would be your normal system that booted. so the all the commands as they say. please try to understand what you are doing and do nto follow the tutorials blindly
[23:46] <k-rad> how might one compare fail2ban and denyhosts ?
[23:46] <ikonia> anygivenname: you have 2 ssh anteis, one for ssh and one for sshd-iptables
[23:46] <Benkinooby> hhd =hdd
[23:46] <she_dyed> earthshade: sorry i had it mixed up
[23:47] <ikonia> anygivenname: get rid of the sshd entry, and leave sshd-iptables
[23:47] <ninly> i need to rebuild a dell mini9 netbook, and don't have a USB stick handy. just checking: will i run into trouble if i use the normal USB-stick  method to boot from an old-ish USB hard drive?
[23:47] <oly562> nightwalk: ok
[23:47] <anygivenname> ok
[23:47] <manhunter> hi
[23:47] <earthshade> she_dyed: Oh ok
[23:47] <ikonia> anygivenname: then restart fail2ban
[23:47] <Tom1> Benkinooby: okay, i used a tutorial to install grub2 previously, but i don't think it included an update command
[23:47] <ikonia> anygivenname: you may want to change maxretry down to 3
[23:47] <Tom1> coz_: no errors were found on the installation disk...so hopefully the installation isn't the problem?
[23:48] <anygivenname> so i delete ssh & all its lines below it
[23:48] <she_dyed> earthshade: what window manager BTW
[23:48] <Jordan_U> Tom1: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide will rewrite the grub.cfg in the "grub-mkconfig" step.
[23:48] <earthshade> she_dyed: ?
[23:48] <coz_> Tom1,   which video card is on the system?
[23:48] <ikonia> ssh and 6 lines bellow it
[23:48] <oly562> so are you guys saying 64bit flash doesnt work well on firefox 64bit? furthermore, why does it work fine for me? i have flash-installer used, but i used a binary from the net, not from repo
[23:48] <she_dyed> earthshade: gnome?
[23:48] <earthshade> she_dyed: Ubuntu?
[23:48] <earthshade> Oh
[23:48] <earthshade> Idk
[23:48] <Tom1> it's an ati card
[23:48] <ikonia> oly562: it doensn't work fine for you, you can't view a sites videos
[23:48] <coz_> mm
[23:48] <stringtheory> How do I disable the firewall?
[23:48] <coz_> Tom1,  then I am puzzled  for sure
[23:48] <earthshade> Lol i downloaded ubuntu 3 days ago she_dyed
[23:49] <anygivenname> I delete ssh section with all its lines
[23:49] <ikonia> anygivenname: leave [sshd-iptables
[23:49] <ikonia> anygivenname: and anything bellow it
[23:49] <Benkinooby> Tom1 if you did not do the update command all you changes to grub2 will not be used. gain, follow grub2 and not grub. so the menu.lst is nothing of interest anymore
[23:49] <edbian> earthshade, :)  How great is it?
[23:49] <Tom1> coz_: is it logical to think both operation systems are still there? just not being accessed correctly?
[23:49] <webBuilder> .
[23:49] <oly562> ikonia: i cant see only hula vids, or wasnt i clear enough ;)
[23:49] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Your original problem is that you tried to edit entires in the menu.lst directly, but that's not allowed and will break update-grub (with grub legacy). The only things you can change in grub legacy are the settings / entries outside the "Autmagic kernel list" area.
[23:49] <ikonia> oly562: yes, that's not working flawless
[23:50] <anygivenname> I delete those
[23:50] <anygivenname> [ssh]
[23:50] <anygivenname> enabled = true
[23:50] <anygivenname> port	= ssh
[23:50] <oly562> its flawless enough for 99% of the time...
[23:50] <anygivenname> filter	= sshd
[23:50] <FloodBot2> anygivenname: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <anygivenname> logpath  = /var/log/auth.log
[23:50] <nightwalk> oly562: 64 bit firefox sometimes doesn't work well with flash, and sometimes doesn't work well with java. The problems change by the version. chrome seems to have a nice track record with flash on this end, though
[23:50] <ikonia> oly562: as you've been told, flash is flakey, some stuff will work, others will not
[23:50] <ikonia> oly562: then your in a lucky position, however you just have to accept that %1
[23:50] <oly562> nightwalk: not an issue for me, just with hula vids
[23:50] <Tom1> Jordan_u: okay, so what would you recommend at this point (can i just bag the old grub entirely?)
[23:50] <Benkinooby> Tom1 yes
[23:50] <oly562> ikonia: flash works great for me except with hula vids
[23:50] <Jordan_U> Tom1: With grub2 the distinction is made more clear, settings you are supposed to change go in /etc/default/grub and you simply don't modify the grub.cfg manually.
[23:50] <ikonia> oly562: you've said, and I'm explaining, it's buggy and won't work with all stuff, it's just a bad fact of flash
[23:50] <anygivenname> or just {ssh}
[23:50] <oly562> ikonia: yep, and it wasnt luck, it was researching and implementation
[23:51] <Jordan_U> Tom1: I would recommend you follow this guide (which will upgrade you to grub2): http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[23:51] <ikonia> oly562: that's just nonsense as you can't configure flash
[23:51] <oly562> ikonia: i like flash, and if i really want to watch something, i just download and run it locally
[23:51] <Tom1> okay, thank you all for your help
[23:51] <stringtheory> Does anybody know if Sky internet is unavailable tonight?
[23:51] <anygivenname> ikonia: I remove the 4 lines below {ssh} ?
[23:51] <ikonia> anygivenname: perfect
[23:51] <Tom1> i will try it on the broken machine now
[23:51] <ikonia> anygivenname: change the maxretry to 3
[23:51] <oly562> ikonia: i never said i can configure the source, but i did download rewritten bin's that work fine, and are not flaky, except for hula vids
[23:51] <ikonia> anygivenname: restart fail2ban
[23:52] <oly562> i have never used fail2ban,,, whats that do?
[23:52] <ikonia> oly562: re-written bins, what ???? it's closed source, they can't be re-written
[23:52] <oly562> ikonia: you dont know everything ok
[23:52] <ikonia> oly562: it's just an automation script set for iptables to ban abusing hosts
[23:52] <oly562> you just dont
[23:52] <ikonia> oly562: you talk nosense
[23:52] <ikonia> oly562: flash is closed source and can't be re-written as adobe hold the source code
[23:52] <oly562> i dont care how i said or what matters to you, just that i know flash works fine except for hula vids
[23:53] <donvitoo> i use phpsysinfo but when i go to check Distro name says Unknown how to fix that?
[23:53] <donvitoo> i use phpsysinfo but when i go to check Distro name says Unknown how to fix that?
[23:53] <donvitoo> how to fix the distro name please?
[23:53] <donvitoo> http://www.agsaserv1.com/index.php?disp=static
[23:53] <FloodBot2> donvitoo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:53] <ikonia> oly562: yes, as it does for me, flash works fine for me
[23:53] <oly562> thats nice, but flash works fine for me except hula vids
[23:53] <ikonia> oly562: however those hula videos are just a said fact that they probably don't and won't work for you going forward
[23:53] <anygivenname> ikonia: it is already set to 3 under iptables....or did u mean I should leave the ssh lines as is & set it to 3 in there aswell ?
[23:53] <oly562> my flash player locally aslo works for hula vids i download
[23:53] <nightwalk> ikonia: oly562 might be confusing swfdec & gnash for actual bona-fide flash releases
[23:53] <darkdrgn2k3> ok gius
[23:53] <darkdrgn2k3> guys
[23:53] <ikonia> oly562: however as you've explained your running modified flash binaries we can't support you any more
[23:53] <Tom1> if i have only "linux" and "linux swap" partitions visible i don't have a separate /boot partition right?
[23:53] <oly562> ikonia: i think someone will figure out the work around,,, unfortunately i havent found it yet
[23:53] <darkdrgn2k3> im getting "No Root Device Found"  when i try to pxeboot my ubuntu kernel
[23:54] <darkdrgn2k3> i used dracut to fix ehte kernel
[23:54] <oly562> ikonia: its not a matter of support or contracts, its a matter of do you know the work around, yes or no.
[23:54] <ikonia> oly562: well, that's nothing to do with this channel, as they are you modified binaries, good luck with them, but please don't ask for support on them in here
[23:54] <temoto> [10.10] How do i return network manager icon to gnome panel?
[23:54] <ikonia> oly562: we will not discuss/support your modified binaries of flash, please don't ask
[23:54] <anygivenname> ikonia: it is already set to 3 under iptables....or did u mean I should leave the ssh lines as is & set it to 3 in ssh aswell ?
[23:54] <ikonia> anygivenname: so it is, my mistake
[23:54] <ikonia> anygivenname: leave it as is, sorry
[23:55] <nightwalk> temoto: I think you just run nm-applet
[23:55] <anygivenname> ikonia: i am confused
[23:55] <anygivenname> sorry
[23:55] <Gryllida> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMouse - what do I need to add to the page? just sign up at the wiki and add a line?
[23:55] <ikonia> anygivenname: sorry, I've confused you
[23:55] <donvitoo> HP throws a error
[23:55] <donvitoo> Level : 2 Message : parse_ini_file(/usr/share/phpsysinfo/data/distros.ini): failed to open stream: No such file or directory File : /usr/share/phpsysinfo/includes/os/class.Linux.inc.php Line : 494
[23:55] <ikonia> anygivenname: delete the lines [ssh] and entries under it, until you get to [ssh-iptables] then leave that there
[23:55] <anygivenname> ikonia: so all what i do in jail....is set maxtrials to 3 in ssh
[23:56] <ikonia> anygivenname: no
[23:56] <ikonia> anygivenname: you need to delete those lines
[23:56] <ikonia> anygivenname: delete [ssh] and 5 options under it
[23:56] <anygivenname> ok
[23:56] <ikonia> so the first jail should be [ssh-iptables]
[23:56] <anygivenname> done
[23:56] <ikonia> anygivenname: restart fail2ban and lets see
[23:56] <anygivenname> how do I restart it ?
[23:56] <temoto> nightwalk, when i run nm-applet in console, it prints "** Message: applet now removed from the notification area"
[23:57] <hax0r1> i plugged in logitech g15 into my laptop once, and ever since half of the keys are fscked up and type gibberish, what could be wrong?
[23:57] <ikonia> anygivenname: it's just a service like ssh, service fail2ban restart
[23:57] <anygivenname> or is it so ==> ps auxw | grep -i fail2ban ?
[23:58] <ikonia> anygivenname: that won't stop/start it
[23:58] <anygivenname> service fail2ban restart
[23:58] <hiho> hi im having problems during installation, it already hangs 5 mins after clicking forward and nothing loads, no terminal output eiter
[23:58] <anygivenname>  * Restarting authentication failure monitor fail2ban                            * Socket file /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock is present
[23:58] <anygivenname>                                                                          [fail
[23:58] <nightwalk> temoto: try googling that error
[23:58] <ikonia> anygivenname: didi you use sudo ?
[23:58] <anygivenname> no
[23:58] <hiho> i had the problem with 10.04 too so now im trying 10.10
[23:58] <ikonia> anygivenname: use sudo
[23:59] <Felip0n> español?
[23:59] <Gryllida> !es
[23:59] <ikonia> !es > Felip0n
[23:59] <Gryllida> lol
[23:59] <anygivenname> ok done
[23:59] <nightwalk> hiho: Anything in dmesg?
[23:59] <ikonia> anygivenname: and you restarted sshd after changing the log level ?


 @kc2bez @wxl23 @N0um3n0 apparently there is an issue with svg icons, that might be the problem https://www.gitmemory.com/issue/lxqt/libqtxdg/246/802661171
 https://forum.manjaro.org/t/just-did-update-no-icons/58919/15
 Not sure if it can break but you can make a "Breaks" on libqt-xdg or w/e it is and point at kiconthemes - that would forbid kiconthemes from working.
 The problem is that might break other things
 this is the package in ubuntu :
 libkf5iconthemes5/hirsute,now 5.80.0-0ubuntu1 amd64 [instalado, automático]
 Ubuntu or Lubuntu? (re @HMollerCl: this is the package in ubuntu :
 libkf5iconthemes5/hirsute,now 5.80.0-0ubuntu1 amd64 [instalado, automático])
 important distinction
 *does a thing and does something probably dangerous in a VM*
 actually kubuntu
 but should be lubuntu also
 well what i'm going to do is
 booting vm
[00:54] <kc2bez> @teward001 when aren't you dangerous? *shot*
 install 21.10.  run a check to see if both are installed
 and see what happens when I remove libkf5iconthemes5
 Valid point. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez> @teward001 when aren't you dangerous? *shot*)
 but not relevant here.  :P
 *salts kc2bez*
[00:55] <kc2bez> XD
 yay for 22MBps download speeds xD
 well I found *a* bug
 the "Restart now" button at the end of the installer doesn't actually call a fully functioning shutdown call
 different bug but
[01:19] <kc2bez> Um, what does it do?
 goes to the spinning Ubuntu logo
 Lubuntu logo*
 then just sits
 'cause of that hang i had to manually halt the box at the VM level, did a reinstall just to make sure it was just the installer and if i don't chose "restart now" and then call the typical sudo shutdown -h now it halts proper
[01:21] <kc2bez> hmm, it is supoosed to do this https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/ubuntu%252Fhirsute/lubuntu/modules/finished.conf$3
[01:22]  * kc2bez wonders if your VM was trying to unmount something?
[01:23] <kc2bez> or some sort of network hang
 yeah, so, going back to @HMollerCl's notes, we can't Breaks libkf5iconthemes5 because it yanks stuff that is important.
 possibly, but since i was in the live installer and it was an empty VM... :P (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez> wonders if your VM was trying to unmount something?)
 so this isn't going to be an easy fix with SVG icons
[01:23] <kc2bez> It looks like a pile of things depend on that
 y e p
 I'm trying to found which is the package in debian sid
 in debian sid it works ok
 dry-run output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G57SPGNbCf/
 for which one (re @HMollerCl: I'm trying to found which is the package in debian sid)
 the xdg libs in Qt5 or the kiconthemes file
 for libkf5iconthemes5
 or kiconthemes (arch name)
 https://packages.debian.org/sid/libkf5iconthemes5 - source package named kiconthemes
 packages.debian.org for quick searching by the way ;)
 whatever the binary is in Ubuntu is likely to be the binary in Debain ;)
 that's why
 they use 5.78 and not 5.80
 maybe @RikMills knows about it...
 looks like it's syncing from Experimental
[01:28] <kc2bez> impish is 5.82
 5.82.0-1
 ... which is in Experimental
 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kiconthemes
 (somehow I seem to be more fluent at Debian package tracking... :P)
 yep autosyncing from Experimental
 well at least we apparently found the issue, don't know why it doesnt affect kde...
 Nope (re @HMollerCl: maybe @RikMills knows about it...)
 5.83 will be uploaded to ubuntu at the weekemd fyi
 to impish or hirsute? (re @RikMills: 5.83 will be uploaded to ubuntu at the weekemd fyi)
 @teward001 @kc2bez @N0um3n0 confirmed, removing libkf5icontheme5 fix the issue (but break a lot o other things).
 should I file a bug?
 If the issue is present in impish we should start there. (re @HMollerCl: should I file a bug?)
 as i said ;) (re @HMollerCl: @teward001 @kc2bez @N0um3n0 confirmed, removing libkf5icontheme5 fix the issue (but break a lot o other things).)
 every issue needs fixed in Impish first ;) (re @HMollerCl: to impish or hirsute?)
 just saying
 anyways, bed is calling.  </offline>
 /me to
 night
 cheers
 yay : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/baa8a5a8/file_2717.jpg
 libkf5iconthemes5, version 5.82,  icons working perfectly in 21.10 (re @kc2bez: If the issue is present in impish we should start there.)
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/011826a3/animation_gif.mp4
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/011826a3/animation_gif.mp4
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/e72b09bb/animation_gif.mp4
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/adcfa07e/animation.gif
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/adcfa07e/animation.gif
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/5fecf819/animation_gif.mp4
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/5fecf819/animation_gif.mp4
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/bec98a1b/animation_gif.mp4
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/bec98a1b/animation_gif.mp4
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/211c0a38/animation_gif.mp4
 @HMollerCl @kc2bez @aptghetto spam...
 wow, I guess that was a bunch of spam. Thanks @N0um3n0
 thanks @N0um3n0 !
 thanks for finding the bug (re @HMollerCl: thanks @N0um3n0 !)


[00:59] <clivejo> only 744 jobs in the queue
[08:35] <acheronuk> still 578 if I'm reading that right
[09:13] <renee77> hey all :)
[09:14] <renee77> did not forgot you been very busy exploring kernel config and configuration settings and hardware :D
[09:16] <renee77> I was reading about dmcrypt and luks, is there any reason to encrypt your disks? Assuming it will not get stolen and not doing illegal activity?
[11:29] <clivejo> lots and lots of package-must-activate-ldconfig-trigger errors
[11:41] <acheronuk> yes? great!
[11:49] <clivejo> acheronuk: if you have time feel free to submit merge requests
[11:49] <clivejo> Ill be away for a few hours but will review and push them when I get a chance
[11:50] <clivejo> at least they are failing for genuine packaging issues now
[11:50] <acheronuk> I'll be having Sun lunch and a few drinks shortly, so I make no promises....
[11:51] <acheronuk> yes, I got a bit fed up looking just to find something other than fixable
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:18] <clivejo> anyone else seeing the jenkins logo is missing on KCI
[14:21] <yofel> shows up here
[14:23]  * clivejo kicks KCI
[14:24]  * clivejo shrugs
[14:24] <clivejo> not loading for me
[14:31]  * clivejo wonders where oxygen-icons5 got an epoch
[14:31] <clivejo> oxygen-icons5 - 4:5.21.0+p16.10+git20160504.0505-0
[14:31] <clivejo> Ill delete that from PPA
[15:22] <clivejo> yofel: Not doing a package copy because the component is not "frameworks" nor is the name whitelisted ["qca-qt5", "qapt", "debconf-kde"]
[15:22] <clivejo> there is a whitelist somewhere?
[15:52] <jimarvan> ahoy!
[15:52] <clivejo> hi jimarvan
[15:53] <BluesKaj> hi clivejo, jimarvan
[15:53] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[15:54] <yofel> seems so, dunno where though
[15:55] <jimarvan> anything exciting today?
[15:56] <clivejo> too humid for excitement
[16:43] <acheronuk> clivejo: yofel: line 35? https://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-tooling/blob/master/ci-tooling/kci/ppa_copy_package.rb
[16:43] <acheronuk> copy_sources = %w(qca-qt5 qapt debconf-kde)
[16:44] <clivejo> yeah but where does it define that?
[16:44] <clivejo> could we create a frameworks whitelist to get it to copy them agian
[16:45] <acheronuk> that copys sources is the definition isn't it?
[16:45] <acheronuk> ruby is not my thing
[16:47] <acheronuk> %w is just defining that array of items?
 o/
[16:52] <clivejo> yes
[16:53] <clivejo> same as ["qca-qt5", "qapt", "debconf-kde"]
[16:54] <clivejo> but where does it whitelist those
[17:00] <acheronuk> in that line
[17:00] <clivejo> thats defining what gets copied
[17:00] <clivejo> we could add "frameworks" to that
[17:01] <clivejo> but where do we define what is a qapt or framework
[17:04] <acheronuk> hmmm...
[17:04] <acheronuk> not wuite what I thought at first glance
[17:04] <acheronuk> *quite
[17:07] <clivejo> the previous method was to pick it up from the debian git repro
[17:07] <clivejo> but we dont have those namespaces in LP
[17:09] <acheronuk> yes, I gathered from the other day
[17:17] <clivejo> but I wonder how qapt is defined
[17:24] <acheronuk> the check is 'if !copy_sources.include?(name)'
[17:25] <acheronuk> so it's checking 'name' against inclusion in that copy_sources array, which is hard coded in the previous line
[17:26] <acheronuk> and presumably 'name' is simply the package name it's checking whether to do a copy on, so it's just checking that against the array list?
[17:29] <clivejo> DCI used the name - http://dci.pangea.pub/view/Frameworks/
[17:29] <clivejo> uses
[17:33] <acheronuk> so it's looking of either those few package name exceptions, or inclusion in component frameworks
[17:33] <acheronuk> *'for either of those'
[17:38] <acheronuk> I'm probably better looking at this when I haven't had a few Sunday pm 'refreshments'.
[17:39] <clivejo> LOL
[17:39] <clivejo> that might help!
[17:50] <acheronuk> yes lol
[17:52] <acheronuk> ENV['COMPONENT'] is set where at what stage?
[18:01] <acheronuk> how much of this KCI code to you actually have control of?
[18:12] <clivejo> acheronuk: I dont know
[18:13] <clivejo> me personally I can just push buttons
[18:21] <acheronuk> who has the 'edit code' button I wonder?
[18:21] <clivejo> well sgclark forked the code and somehow mod it
[19:33] <clivejo> ah, Ive found the nightly timer thats triggering the builds
[19:33] <clivejo> 0 0 * * *
[19:33] <soee> :)
[19:35] <clivejo> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_progenitor/
[19:35] <clivejo> Im going to disable it for the time being
[19:39] <acheronuk> good
[19:39] <clivejo> that management job triggers the merges
[19:39] <clivejo> and the mergers trigger the builds
[19:59] <clivejo> if it gets any slower its going to stop!
[20:03] <clivejo> ah, it was problem with Opera Turbo why I dont have Jenkins logo
[20:08] <acheronuk> not sure I've ever enabled that
[20:10] <clivejo> it compresses images
[20:10] <clivejo> but must be broken
[20:11] <acheronuk> ah yes, I remember now. was thinking of the new built in VPN
[23:59]  * clivejo wonders has he actually stopped KCI or just an illusion