[01:13] <tore> gurkZor: No problem, thanks anyway.
[01:13] <gurkZor> MikeyMike: try ALT + F2 nautilus
[01:13] <reus>    Starting httpd.vmware:-ne                                          failed
[01:13] <poolkey172> tore : give me the linky : let me see
[01:13] <MikeyMike> erm
[01:13] <MikeyMike> okay?
[01:13] <sparr> cuteAndFluffy: on the download page, pick a location, then "CD Image for Apple Macintosh PowerPC based desktop and laptop computers"
[01:13] <reus> whats the apache line apt-get needs ?
[01:13] <gurkZor> MikeyMike:  and goto trash:
[01:13] <chaelot|work> poolkey172: :(
[01:13] <gurkZor> MikeyMike:  How did you do?
[01:14] <MikeyMike> it works
[01:14] <minimec> natrix: You have to run that thing on windows first to the definition of the fingerprint. Afterwards, the fingerprint recognition works.
[01:14] <MikeyMike> gurkZor, that brings me to .Trash
[01:14] <MikeyMike> ok well
[01:14] <reus> apt-get install apache ?
[01:14] <MikeyMike> its empty now
[01:14] <MikeyMike> :)
[01:14] <poolkey172> chaelot|work : try installing xmms its what I use and it sounds great
[01:14] <cuteAndFluffy> sparr: Just found it :) I must be tired to have missed that :P
[01:14] <gurkZor> reus:  apache2
[01:14] <sparr> cuteAndFluffy: consider kubuntu instead of ubuntu  :)
[01:14] <tore> poolkey172: I already did?
[01:14] <reus> xD thkx
[01:14] <bimberi> reus: sudo apt-get ...
[01:14] <dawkirst> chaelot|work: I can remember something like that happened to me as well...did you try another application yet?
[01:14] <cuteAndFluffy> sparr: what's the difference?
[01:14] <Whitman> Hi, is there a repo anywhere with php 5.2 for edgy?
[01:14] <chaelot|work> poolkey172, i did, and i use the ALSA drivers etc. i also tried AMAROK
[01:14] <alexis> hello
[01:14] <minimec> natrix: http://skreo.murties.com/
[01:15] <sparr> cuteAndFluffy: default GUI
[01:15] <poolkey172> tore : what are u trying to install on ?
[01:15] <cuteAndFluffy> ohh.. thanks! :)
[01:15] <chaelot|work> dawkirst, yes, i've tried a few, the problems seems to be a bit of Gain on the output signal and no bottom (base)
[01:15] <alexis> hello
[01:15] <sparr> cuteAndFluffy: you can change from one to the other post-install by installing a meta package, so its not a big decision
[01:15] <tore> poolkey172: A SunFire X4100.
[01:15] <poolkey172> tore : rofl
[01:16] <poolkey172> tore : why r u wasting your hardware ?
[01:16] <tore> poolkey172: What do you mean?
[01:16] <reus> Generating SSL Server Certificate
[01:16] <reus>    Starting httpd.vmware:-ne                                          failed
[01:16] <reus> still fails :$
[01:16] <dawkirst> chaelot|work: weird...have you tried googling for similar problems? Maybe Ubuntu doesn't like your sound device?
[01:16] <reus> even with apache installed
[01:16] <Morrissey> bimberi, direct rendering: no
[01:19] (ubs/#ubuntu) how to change the permission on a mounted filesystem
[01:19] (tore/#ubuntu) poolkey172: The installer doesn't recognise the RAID controller.  I was assuming that it would, given the fact that Ubuntu's web pages explicitly mentions that this particular server is supported.
[01:19] (Morrissey/#ubuntu) bimberi, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.conf says: Direct rendering: Enabled
[01:20] (poolkey172/#ubuntu) tore : ROFL : this ubiquity thing is a kiddies installer
[01:20] (poolkey172/#ubuntu) tore : what do u expect ?
[01:20] (bimberi/#ubuntu) Morrissey: riight.  well that's ... interesting :|
[01:20] (Morrissey/#ubuntu) bimberi, loaded and initiziales /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so ... this is maybe wrong?
[01:20] (tore/#ubuntu) poolkey172: I'll always be able to hack around it by suppying it custom modules from a USB drive, but it's a pain in the arse.
[01:20] (natrix/#ubuntu) minimec: Still here?
[01:21] (poolkey172/#ubuntu) tore : try this
[01:21] (bimberi/#ubuntu) Morrissey: It 'just works(tm)' here.  I'll pastebin my xorg.conf for comparison purposes if you like
[01:21] <felixfoertsch_> Hi there!
[01:21] (minimec/#ubuntu) natrix: I think, you can use pgp for encryption.
[01:21] (Morrissey/#ubuntu) thanks bimberi
[01:21] <geokok> Hi. I specify a port to be opened in firestarter but it keeps blocking ip's connecting through that port. What can I do?
[01:21] <felixfoertsch_> Could anyone tell me how to teach Ubuntu to shutdown completely?
[01:21] <natrix> minimec: Did you understand how?
[01:21] <reus>    Starting httpd.vmware:-ne                                          failed
[01:22] <reus> im trying virtuals server vmware
[01:22] <poolkey172> tore : try this : Install the OS on a seperate drive : create the RAID then copy the OS to the RAID its what I am having to do
[01:22] <[GuS] > Bonjour...
[01:23] <MiniJames> reus, what are you trying to achieve
[01:23] <felixfoertsch_> My Ubuntu does no complete shutdown after I told it to shutdown. I have to press the power button all the time.
[01:23] <LadyNikon> felixfoertsch_: click on the red button in the upper right corner
[01:23] <bimberi> Morrissey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34341/  (I'm running Edgy i386 by the way)
[01:23] <minimec> natrix: That french guy has a pgp encrypted patition and only does synchronisation stick <-> pgp-partition.
[01:23] <Morrissey> thanks bimberi
[01:23] <felixfoertsch_> LadyNikon: ... how funny is that?
[01:24] <LadyNikon> felixfoertsch_: heh.
[01:24] <tore> poolkey172: Yes, I will be able to hack around it.  I was just hoping to not have to do it since it's a pain in the arse.  But I guess Ubuntu's support for these devices isn't really what I thought.
[01:24] <highneko> Can someone help me with a vnc problem? On my pc I get "VNC authentication failed". I just setup vncpasswd on my remote machine, then edited the xorg with this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279069&highlight=vncviewer and it says wrong password. I'll try using vncpasswd again, maybe I did it wrong.
[01:24] <poolkey172> tore : As i said this ubuntu is a kiddies system
[01:25] <natrix> minimec: the encryped partition is where? inside the stick?
[01:25] <LadyNikon> felixfoertsch_: i just learned the other day ( sadly to say) that all you have to do is press enter to change a file or folder name on my mac.
[01:25] <minimec> natrix: I'm pretty sure, that you can find some english howto's on the net about your stick and Linux.
[01:25] <LadyNikon> had the bloody thing a year..
[01:25] <poolkey172> tore : why didnt u install something more enterprisish like redhat/fedora/suse
[01:25] <LadyNikon> right click didnt work heh
[01:25] <rdz> hi all. how can i find out from which package a certain file is part of?
[01:26] <minimec> natrix: On the Desktop. And then he does the synchronisation with the stick.
[01:26] <bimberi> Morrissey: yw :)
[01:26] <LadyNikon> btw morning all
[01:26] <Kenas> hi is it possible to open with wine a document in samba ???
[01:26] <gurkZor> bimberi: I did the "sudo modprobe pwc" command, but it didn't do the trick
[01:26] <tore> poolkey172: Because I want Ubuntu, obviously.
[01:26] <gurkZor> got any other idea?
[01:26] <natrix> minimec: I am trying to find now something to that but it gives me as first options the links that you send me (french...)!
[01:27] <tore> poolkey172: Just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/37452, by the way.
[01:27] <felixfoertsch> Could anyone tell me how to shutdown Ubuntu completely - without pressing the power-button?
[01:27] <bimberi> gurkZor: sorry, no :|
[01:27] <Kenas> is it possible to open in wine a document in samba ?
[01:27] <poolkey172> lol @ tore : Cos its easy peasy with apt loads of repositiries too
[01:27] <LadyNikon> felixfoertsch: that option i gave you didnt work?
[01:27] <rdz> /usr/local/include/GL/glext.h tells me somehting about nvidia, though i have fglrx installed
[01:27] <natrix> minimec: do you know if pgp works with ubuntu?
[01:27] <gurkZor> ok, thanks anyway bimberi. And btw do I have to choose -generic every boot from now on?
[01:27] <poolkey172> lol @ tore : Thats why poolkey too is using this kiddies system (its just too easy with ubuntu)
[01:28] <rdz> felixfoertsch, you could also use commandline: sudo halt
[01:28] <felixfoertsch> LadyNikon: ... I know the red button - but thats not the problem. The problem is not the shutdown itself, but the need of pressing the power-button after shutting down.
[01:28] <minimec> natrix: Why shouldn't it? I never tried it, but I guess there is no problem.
[01:28] <felixfoertsch> My PC does not POWER OFF after shutdown.
[01:28] <LadyNikon> felixfoertsch: well you didnt say you tried that :P
[01:28] <poolkey172> tore : that refers to the 2.6.15 kernel
[01:29] <rdz> felixfoertsch, this might bot be a software issue, but an issue of your mainboard
[01:29] <LadyNikon> hmm rdz will halt even power it off.
[01:29] <felixfoertsch> My monitor shows a black screen with a blinking white cursor. That's it. No poweroff.
[01:29] <mdasilva> Hi
[01:29] <bimberi> gurkZor: up to you, choose the one you feel is performing the best :).  by the way you can change the default by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst (line beginning with 'default')
[01:29] <tore> poolkey172: Which is what Dapper is shipping.
[01:29] <felixfoertsch> rdz: But it worked well yesterday on the old Ubuntu installation.
[01:29] <phpnuborn> ok.. i just tried     apt-get install bum  > errmsg.txt      but the error messages are going to  stderr i think.. so how would i redirect stderr to a file?
[01:29] <geokok> Any help with firestarter?A port although opened remains blocked
[01:29] <natrix> minimec: Ok then, I'll try it! thank you very much for the help !!!!
[01:29] <poolkey172> tore : why dont u want to use edgy ?
[01:29] <gurkZor> bimberi: I'm aware of that, but I can't tell the difference between -generic an "normal"
[01:30] <felixfoertsch> rdz: Had to reinstall Ubuntu yesterday because of an odd gnome-panel error.
[01:30] <rdz> felixfoertsch, ah in that case it seems to be a software issue....
[01:30] <bimberi> gurkZor: uname -r
[01:30] <minimec> natrix: np
[01:30] <rdz> felixfoertsch, but i don't have a clue right now
[01:30] <felixfoertsch> rdz: Me neither :(
[01:30] <tore> poolkey172: Because I want LTS.
[01:30] <gurkZor> bimberi: I'm running -generic but I don't "feel" the difference
[01:30] <felixfoertsch> rdz: Maybe it has something to do with ACPI.
[01:31] <poolkey172> tore : whats LTS : I'm a newbie to ubuntu
[01:31] <felixfoertsch> rdz: I had to extend the install options by "acpi=off" to install Ubuntu. Maybe I have to remove this now?
[01:31] <bimberi> gurkZor: there probably isn't much between it and -386
[01:31] <tore> poolkey172: Long Time Support.  Five years, that is.
[01:31] <Vi1> What is LTS on a PC? that one still has me giggling:)
[01:31] <natrix> minimec: I let you know if this can work!
[01:31] <mdasilva> no
[01:31] <rdz> felixfoertsch, i would try that, but i don't really know. but it sounds 'nachvollzehbar'
[01:31] <poolkey172> tore : ic
[01:31] <minimec> natrix: ok.
[01:32] <poolkey172> tore : dont we get that with edgy ?
[01:32] <phpnuborn> can strerr be redirected ti a file?
[01:32] <felixfoertsch> rdz: "nachvollziehbar" you mean ;) - where are those ACPI settings saved?
[01:32] <natrix> minimec: see you later.
[01:32] <phpnuborn> *to
[01:32] <rdz> felixfoertsch, no clue, sorry
[01:32] <felixfoertsch> rdz: Well I'll find it some day. Thanks.
[01:33] <rdz> felixfoertsch, hope so, sorry that i couldn't help
[01:33] <gurkZor> ok, Thanks bimberi
[01:33] <Celldweller> how do I delete the trash can from bash
[01:33] <poolkey172> tore : looks like that link u found (http://jesusch.de/?page=ubuntu) is the way to go
[01:33] <Celldweller> evnen though it says i have permissions it wont let me lol
[01:33] <rdz> how can i find out, from which package a certain file is part of?
[01:34] <rdz> /usr/local/include/GL/glext.h: where is that from?
[01:34] <bimberi> felixfoertsch: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290713
[01:34] <Vi1> Wait, I did not download the LTS version, or I don't know if I did, How do I know?
[01:35] <felixfoertsch> bimberi: Big THX!
[01:35] <bimberi> Celldweller: sudo rm ~/.Trash/*
[01:35] <Celldweller> thnkx
[01:35] <tore> poolkey172: Yes.  But it still makes me wonder if there's any QA done at all before proudly declaring that Ubuntu is "certified to run" on these servers.  I'll still need a custom kernel, it seems.  Very disappointing.
[01:35] <bimberi> felixfoertsch: np, hopefully something there works for you :)
[01:35] <poolkey172> lol @ tore
[01:36] <felixfoertsch> bimberi: I remember this thread - that was the little thing I needed :D
[01:36] <SWAT_laptop> urgent help needed: how do I get a matrox millennium g550 working with 3D? In about 30 minutes I'll have a lot of people asking me for an answer :-/
[01:36] <bimberi> felixfoertsch: cool :)
[01:36] <poolkey172> tore : ubuntu is fit for 1 pupose : to convert windows users
[01:36] <reus> <    Starting httpd.vmware:-ne                                          failed
[01:36] <reus>  im trying virtuals server vmware
[01:36] <poolkey172> it even converted me
[01:37] <Celldweller> ok i found out why
[01:37] <Celldweller> the idiot room mate made some directories
[01:37] <reus> anybody know howto vmware virtual server ?
[01:37] <Celldweller> grrrrrr
[01:37] <felixfoertsch> Thanks all!
[01:37] <tore> poolkey172: I disagree, but I'm not really interested in having that discussion right now.
[01:37] <poolkey172> tore : no worries
[01:38] <reus> :$
[01:38] <[GuS] > reus, theres a lot of info in the net about that
[01:38] <[GuS] > search in google :P
[01:38] <poolkey172> tore : good luck with the install
[01:38] <reus> tried a howto it fails at startin the mui
[01:38] <reus> :$
[01:38] <tore> poolkey172: Thanks.
[01:38] <phpnuborn> i have just 2  lines to paste.. i promise..    that ok?
[01:38] <[GuS] > poolkey172, sometimes i think that too...
[01:39] <[GuS] > and more with the decission to integrate closed source drivers...
[01:39] <poolkey172> [GuS]  dont get me wrong I do like ubuntu
[01:39] <phpnuborn> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:39] <phpnuborn> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[01:39] <[GuS] > hey me too
[01:39] <phpnuborn> i am root
[01:39] <[GuS] > (i use Kubuntu since it beginning)
[01:40] <poolkey172> [GuS]  I have been a windows user for 15 years : got fed up that things slow down after time
[01:40] <[GuS] > but use by default those drivers? is a not good idea... users have the right to choose
[01:40] <[GuS] > so must be optional
[01:40] <phpnuborn> so why might i be getting those with..    apt-get install bum   ?
[01:40] <Daylighter> phpnuborn, sudo apt-get install bum
[01:41] <phpnuborn> i'm root user..  already
[01:41] <Daylighter> according to that error you arent
[01:41] <phpnuborn> or superuser.. no need to sudo
[01:41] <roh> phpnuborn, the administration area may be locked by another apt process
[01:41] <[GuS] > phpnuborn,
[01:41] <Daylighter> oh yes
[01:41] <[GuS] > look into ps aux
[01:41] <Daylighter> I forgot about hatt
[01:41] <[GuS] > maybe the app is lock...
[01:41] <[GuS] > killl it
[01:41] <bimberi> phpnuborn: verify by typing 'whoami'
[01:41] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : type 'id'
[01:42] <bimberi> or that :)
[01:42] <poolkey172> thanks bimeri
[01:42] <poolkey172> lol no response he's doing a sudo -s
[01:43] <RobNyc[] > i wonder if the guides for ubuntu work for debian ?
[01:44] <minimec> RobNyc[] : It depends on what you're working on...
[01:44] <poolkey172> RobNyc[]  depends its software related or OS related.... I have used guides for gentoo to help ubuntu issue : u just tweak along the way if you understand the structure of your distro
[01:45] <rasputnik> anyone know how to boot proper single user? 'emergency' mode won't let me umount /var
[01:45] <RobNyc[] > minimec, for example ati-drivers later xgl , beryl,
[01:45] <poolkey172> like how INIT works vs 2.4x to 2.6x and /etc/init.d /etc etc
[01:46] <poolkey172> rasputnik : rescue mode not good enough ?
[01:46] <Vig> This is a fun OS!
[01:46] <rasputnik> poolkey172: is that different to the grub menu entry?
[01:47] <poolkey172> rasputnik : should be the same it should dump u into a shell at run level 0
[01:47] <minimec> RobNyc[] : hmm... xorg configuration should be the same. The repo for debian testing (etch) is surely different. The ati drivers do not exist in a simple deb package, I think. I don't remember anymore.
[01:47] <rasputnik> didn't seem to, but I'll try again
[01:47] <bimberi> rasputnik: otherwise, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword (Last Resort bit)
[01:47] <bimberi> ooh, missed 'im
[01:47] <Luke> is anyone else having problems with avahi not starting?
[01:48] <mawx> Luke, maybe... what do you mean by avahi not starting?
[01:48] <minimec> RobNyc[] : So I guess. You will have some 'manual' work to install the ati-drivers, but there should be a repository for xgl and beryl and compiz ...
[01:48] <phpnuborn> uid=1000(vmware) gid=1000(vmware) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),112(admin),1000(vmware)
[01:48] <RobNyc[] > yeah
[01:48] <phpnuborn> vmware is the root user
[01:49] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : I think not mate
[01:49] <bimberi> phpnuborn: root user has uid 0
[01:49] <phpnuborn> vmware is the superuser..
[01:49] <mawx> Luke, I do have trouble connecting to other computers on the local net running itunes using both rythmbox and banshee.
[01:50] <phpnuborn> oh i give up on linux..
[01:50] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : u give up 2 easily
[01:50] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : type 'sudo -s'
[01:50] <phpnuborn> too complex.. just to do the simplest crap..
[01:51] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : depends if you're willing to learn : learn and u'll reap the rewards
[01:51] <phpnuborn> everytime i try the smallest task.. it turns into a half a day chore
[01:51] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : no pain no gain
[01:51] <Luke> mawx: my avahi is not running... check in banshee and see if the plugin was loaded for itunes sharing
[01:52] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : having used linux for over 10 years I still have problems
[01:52] <Luke> mawx: also try sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon restart .... it doesnt do anything
[01:52] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : learn all the time
[01:53] <mawx> Luke, Music sharing plugin in banshee says it could not be installed
[01:53] <mawx> Luke, rhythmbox won't share either.
[01:53] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : last night I spend 6 BLOODY hours trying to get the piece of junk(ubuntu) onto a RAID array Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:54] <mawx> Luke, sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon restart doesn't seem to do anything either.
[01:54] <minimec> RobNyc[] : Got something for you ;) http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/2006/11/20/installing-fglrx-ati-drivers-in-debian-etch/
[01:54] <Luke> mawx: there seems to be an error with the init script... i dont know why no one else is complaining
[01:54] <Luke> mawx: i just wanted to confirm
[01:54] <phpnuborn> well  sudo -s   worked.. id show me as uid=0(root)
[01:55] <bimberi> \o/
[01:55] <phpnuborn> now thats a useful command
[01:55] <RobNyc[] > minimec, thanks a bunch =)
[01:55] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : now you're the root user : or stupid user as I call him
[01:55] <minimec> RobNyc[] : np
[01:55] <phpnuborn> one of the few in *nix
[01:55] <silver> salut
[01:55] <mawx> Luke, Can confirm the problem - might not be caused by config file but by missing packages etc, though.
[01:55] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : now u can install remove packages with apt etc
[01:56] <Luke> mawx: should be fixied by reinstalling then?
[01:56] <Luke> mawx: either way - its a problem with the edgy update
[01:56] <phpnuborn> i started just trying to get xfce gui in xubuntu to not auto-load at boot up...
[01:57] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : why dont you do all this via synaptic or adept manager ?
[01:57] <phpnuborn> not just the   ctrl-alt-f1  thingy either
[01:58] <phpnuborn> huh?   synaptic?  adept manager?
[01:58] <Impetus|Fatkid> hey anyone around
[01:58] <Luke> mawx: after I make a bug report, care to confirm it for me?
[01:58] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : refresh me : when u boot ure machine u do get a gui asking u log in right ?
[01:58] <roh> phpnuborn: graphical package management interfaces
[01:58] <mawx> Luke, send me the url, i'll confirm.
[01:59] <phpnuborn> how would i find out if they are in my installed VM xubuntu distro?
[01:59] <phpnuborn> goes right into a gui called  xfce
[01:59] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : good question : I'd like the answer for this too
[01:59] <Impetus|Fatkid> i just download 6.10 burned it and everything restarted but it seems to start of the cd
[01:59] <Impetus|Fatkid> and not install
[01:59] <Impetus|Fatkid> altho i pressed start..install tab
[02:00] <poolkey172> anyone know ? I'm an old time rpm man : rpm -qa | grep etc
[02:00] <highneko> Can someone help me with a vnc problem? On my pc I get "VNC authentication failed". I just setup vncpasswd on my remote machine, then edited the xorg with this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279069&highlight=vncviewer and it says wrong password.
[02:00] <bluesign> how can I restart iptables on ubuntu ?
[02:00] <poolkey172> Anyone ? How can I list the packages that I have installed currently ?
[02:01] <bimberi> phpnuborn, poolkey172: dpkg -l synaptic   (or adept)
[02:01] <roh> poolkey172, dpkg -l bash
[02:01] <chrish> /etc/init.d/iptables restart
[02:01] <highneko> poolkey172: Adept filter for installed programs.
[02:01] <Luke> mawx: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/73461
[02:01] <bimberi> poolkey172: dpkg -l   will list them all
[02:01] <poolkey172> Thanks guys
[02:01] <mawx> Luke,  /usr/sbin/avahi-daemon -c seems to be the programm called from the init script.
[02:01] <bluesign> chrish: there is no iptables there
[02:02] <we2by> !flash
[02:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <mawx> Luke, it returns an error for me
[02:02] <Luke> mawx: same but running it normally I can start it
[02:02] <mawx> Luke, well it does not return 0 at least.
[02:02] <Impetus|Fatkid> how do i install 6.10 please help
[02:02] <Impetus|Fatkid> i just get the option for booting from cd only
[02:02] <chrish> it it running bluesign what does iptables -L give you?
[02:02] <Luke> mawx: just try running "avahi-daemon"
[02:02] <mawx> Luke, ahh, sorry. guess -c just checks if avahi is up already.
[02:03] <highneko> Impetus|Fatkid: Do that then execute the livecd installer.
[02:03] <imperfect-> Is there an easy way to convert kbuntu to regular ubuntu without reinstalling?
[02:03] <Impetus|Fatkid> is that in startup from reboot or from windows now
[02:03] <bluesign> chrish: yep it is listing my fw rules
[02:03] <ndlovu> I need to get a new laptop, so I'm comparing specs - does Ubuntu support Intel centrino core duo processors?
[02:03] <mawx> Luke, right running avahi-daemon by hand works for me.
[02:03] <RobNyc[] > minimec, so you think those isntructions are what i gotta do?
[02:03] <poolkey172> imperfect : I would think apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <bimberi> poolkey172: that's the way, unlearn that rpm stuff :)
[02:04] <poolkey172> lol@bimberi
[02:04] <Luke> mawx: cool. you have the same results as me
[02:04] <vivid> im trying to run firestarter in edgy with sudo NOPASSWD, but the nopasswd entry isnt working...has the sudo syntax changed or something?
[02:04] <poolkey172> bimberi : I have an old machine in a datacentre running redhat 5 or something
[02:05] <Impetus|Fatkid> it seems my cd i have is a live cd
[02:05] <bimberi> poolkey172: ha, beats me, my oldest is RH 7.2
[02:05] <mawx> Luke, Banshee still won't list the plugin though.
[02:05] <Impetus|Fatkid> to just show u a trial
[02:05] <poolkey172> vivid: check visudo
[02:05] <minimec> RobNyc[] : this is the first step. After that howto you will have a running fglrx driver on your system. As a 2nd step you will need to install the xgl and beryl binaries. I am pretty sure that you will find a inofficial etch repository containing the software you need.
[02:05] <phpnuborn> [07:56]  <poolkey172> phpnuborn : why dont you do all this via synaptic or adept manager ?  <<--   how do i find out if these are already installed?
[02:05] <bimberi> Impetus|Fatkid: there is an Install icon on the Desktop once it boots
[02:05] <Luke> mawx: if you restart banshee it does
[02:05] <rag> hi *
[02:06] <RobNyc[] > minimec, yea i'll look in the beryl site wiki they have a couple of instructions :)
[02:06] <Impetus|Fatkid> whats the user name n pass tho
[02:06] <vivid> poolkey172: i have entered 'username ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter' with visudo, yet im getting no response when running sudo firestarter
[02:06] <minimec> RobNyc[] : Good idea.
[02:06] <Impetus|Fatkid> coz when it startd it said it couldnt load the starting program trying another
[02:06] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : I just learnt this right now myself : dpkg -l adept
[02:06] <Impetus|Fatkid> then it just went to a login screen
[02:06] <poolkey172> dpkg -l synaptic
[02:06] <bimberi> phpnuborn: [00:01] <bimberi> phpnuborn, poolkey172: dpkg -l synaptic   (or adept)
[02:06] <RobNyc[] > hehe thanks for the support.. i have ubuntu edgy here on my celeron and debian 4.0 aka etch on my prescott
[02:06] <chrish> #ubuntu-freshers
[02:07] <chrish> doh
[02:07] <mawx> Luke, right.
[02:07] <chrish> no idea about the iptables thats odd
[02:07] <mawx> Luke, Ahh, this might be due to the "no ports open policy" in ubuntu.
[02:07] <poolkey172> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[02:07] <poolkey172> %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[02:07] <rag> hi * anyone know how to pass parameter
[02:07] <mawx> Luke, They ship it without any ports open - so avahi should not open ports by default.
[02:08] <mawx> Luke, Maybe there is some switch to turn it on.
[02:08] <Luke> mawx: i'm not sure how to fix that... but it should work by default
[02:08] <mawx> Luke, will still confirm your bugreport.
[02:08] <rag> on alternate cd, but no one time but all times i insert a cd alternate for install, it put parameters automatic
[02:08] <Luke> mawx: thanks
[02:08] <Luke> mawx: if you can find more info as well... that'd be great
[02:09] <RobNyc[] > beryl site down so ill just follow those directions ty again
[02:09] <rag> is there any file for put this parameters on alternate cd install?
[02:09] <poolkey172> sweet just learnt up on dpkg-*
[02:09] <vivid> poolkey172: if i add NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter to the %admin entry, i get Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:10] <vivid> but at least it doesnt ask for a password
[02:10] <rainyrhythm> i think it's the xauth problem vivid
[02:10] <poolkey172> vivid : are u running it as kedsu ?
[02:10] <vivid> no
[02:11] <vivid> using edgy/gnome/sudo
[02:11] <poolkey172> ok well it should work then
[02:11] <poolkey172> try it from the command line
[02:11] <vivid> well, tell that to visudo
[02:11] <vivid> thats what ive been using
[02:11] <poolkey172> use your default user id
[02:11] <rainyrhythm> vivid you know xauth ?
[02:12] <poolkey172> open a shell
[02:12] <vivid> rainyrhythm: yea, if i can use xhost + to remove the access, but it has to be done everytime i log on
[02:12] <rainyrhythm> oh..
[02:13] <tripppy> how do i make a script to run a bunch of terminal commands?
[02:13] <Vig> Somethin is messed up,,well better said, I messed something up, my apps that are running,Firfox,This GAIM, TBird, whatever is dissapearing somewhere and not going to bottom taskbar...ideas?
[02:13] <mawx> Luke, will comments on the bugreport be send to you?
[02:13] <e319> hi where can i dl an iso of feisty fawn?
[02:13] <vivid> tripppy: start a text file with #!/bin/sh followed by your commands
[02:14] <Kim^J> Hey all. I have a NFS problem. I installed nfs-common, nfs-kernel-server, portmap on the Debian server. Installed nfs-common, portmap on the Edgy client. I can't mount the nfs drive.
[02:14] <Kim^J> Just get a Mount to NFS server 'IP' failed.
[02:14] <adi> hi
[02:14] <rag> any way for install with alternate cd , and forever pass same parameters?
[02:14] <rag> i want safe me i put noapic, nolapic on installation each
[02:15] <soundray> Kim^J: where you entered 'IP' you were supposed to put the actual IP address of the server.
[02:15] <rag> is possible?
[02:15] <highneko> I installed a normal vncserver. When I use vncviewer I can see my remote desktop but the panels load for a second then keep dissapearing. I's unusable Here's a screenshot http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/numbers6554/Screenshot2.png any ideas?
[02:15] <vivid> so anyone else with edgy having troubles with sudo nopasswd?
[02:15] <poolkey172> Kim^J : what does showmount -e ipaddressofyourNFSserversay ?
[02:15] <Kim^J> soundray: I know. Just didn't wan't to write the IP out on this channel.
[02:15] <rag> highneko: try freenx, is better
[02:16] <adi> hi
[02:16] <soundray> !nfs | Kim^J
[02:16] <ubotu> Kim^J: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:16] <rag> highneko: than vnc
[02:16] <tripppy> vivid: i put my commands in the txt file and run the file as root, /bin/sh text.txt
[02:16] <tripppy> ?
[02:16] <adi> hi
[02:16] <Kim^J> poolkey172: mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered
[02:16] <highneko> rag: I have tried many things already, maybe six different type things.
[02:16] <rag> highneko: 6 software?
[02:16] <vivid> tripppy: make it executable with chmod a+x text.txt then run ./text.txt
[02:16] <roh> tripppy, you probably don't need to be root but that should work
[02:16] <mawx> e319, i don't know if there is an iso yet. I'd install edgy and then run...
[02:16] <highneko> rag: Different packages of things.
[02:17] <phpnuborn> whats the pastebin  this channel prefers?
[02:17] <soundray> !pastebin | phpnuborn
[02:17] <ubotu> phpnuborn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:17] <mawx> e319, sudo aptitude update && sudo dist-upgrade
[02:17] <tripppy> woot thnx
[02:17] <poolkey172> Kim^J Read the NFS howto as recommended and also ensure portmap/nfs/ /etc/exports are correctly  running on the NFS server
[02:17] <adi> hi
[02:17] <rag> highneko: then you have other problems, security or firewalls for example, it block you
[02:17] <roh> tripppy, you can make the file executable (and run it) from the gui too
[02:17] <mawx> e319, You'd have to change /etc/apt/sources.list before that though.
[02:17] <adi> hi
[02:17] <e319> hmm ok
[02:17] <Kim^J> poolkey172: Ok.
[02:18] <rag> hi * any way for pass parameters to alternate cd install
[02:18] <rag> ?
[02:18] <highneko> rag: Why would you think that? It displays the background and stuff.
[02:18] <soundray> e319: why do you want feisty rather than edgy?
[02:18] <mawx> e319, but maybe check the ubuntu page if there is a knot / flight out yet.
[02:18] <adi> hi sugar
[02:18] <rag> always same parameters, and then i safe than i put noapic, nolapic always :)
[02:18] <rag> and press F6 to pass parameters...
[02:18] <rag> :)
[02:19] <phpnuborn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34346/  <<--  so is synaptic   fully loaded or what??
[02:19] <mawx> e319, but it's still really early for feisty - you'll definitly run into some interesting trouble ;)
[02:19] <roh> rag, I imagine you can type "c" from the GRUB bootloader on the CD...
[02:19] <rag> highneko: ah ok then i dont know
[02:19] <vivid> feisty is probably really close to the same as edgy at this point..
[02:19] <soundray> phpnuborn: no. Run 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[02:19] <rag> highneko: are you tried with other softwares?
[02:20] <roh> phpnuborn, It looks like synaptic *was* installed, but removed
[02:20] <rag> roh: no, i want not only for 1 time but automatic process
[02:20] <poolkey172> phpnuborn yes it is
[02:20] <rag> auto process for always , pass same parameters
[02:20] <soundray> poolkey172: no it isn't (phpnuborn)
[02:20] <roh> rag, so you want to edit your grub.conf and add the parameters there?
[02:20] <rag> roh: auto process for always , pass same parameters
[02:20] <highneko> ragTired? I'm tired of trying other things kinda. I would like something to work well, and I have seen a screenshot of vnc working really nice.
[02:20] <rag> roh: you know?
[02:21] <poolkey172> soundray : thanks for correcting me
[02:21] <poolkey172> doh
[02:21] <phpnuborn> ok..
[02:21] <rag> roh: is there grub.conf on alternate cd?
[02:21] <rag> roh: in alternate cd?
[02:21] <rag> roh: i dont know
[02:21] <XiXaQ> In System Monitor, what is the difference between Memory and Resident Memory?
[02:21] <rag> roh: is there?
[02:21] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : can u even log into x windows ?
[02:22] <roh> I don't know anything about the alternate cd, but on my desktop machine the file is "/boot/menu.lst"
[02:22] <phpnuborn> yes..  poolkey172
[02:23] <rag> roh: no i need pass parameters on installation , not on already system installed, ok?
[02:23] <phpnuborn> it boots into it automatically
[02:23] <rag> roh: thanks
[02:23] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : cool then what do u not like or what problems are u experiencing ?
[02:24] <phpnuborn> i want this 'turnkey'  distro to boot into text mode
[02:24] <poolkey172> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh ic
[02:24] <phpnuborn> not the  xubuntu  xfce gui
[02:24] <poolkey172> that should be easy
[02:24] <phpnuborn> so i did the ctrl-alt-f1 thing
[02:24] <poolkey172> I'm going to do the very quick hack
[02:24] <roh> phpnuborn, so you want to boot into a different runlevel? one that doesn't run an X display manager?
[02:25] <Luke> mawx: thanks for confirming. yes they will be sent to me. if I report they are automatically CCed to the author
[02:25] <gorski> can i resize fat32 partitions with qtparted?
[02:25] <phpnuborn> roh, yes
[02:25] <tripppy> roh, how do i make it run another script? and how do i run it from the gui?
[02:25] <Byan> hey, anyone here know how ipv6 works more then me...?
[02:25] <Byan> cause I got a broker working..
[02:25] <Byan> and it's confusing me
[02:25] <phpnuborn> but i don't want to hunt for files to edit..
[02:26] <runes> If I wanted a symlink in the users folder that shows up in ftp session what do I do.  I tried ln -s /media/ftp/Internet_downloads downloads  the link shows when I browse locally but not in ftp
[02:26] <gorski> do i need to unmount the partition first, 'cause it want to resize mounted?
[02:26] <gorski> can i resize fat32 partitions with qtparted?
[02:27] <highneko> When I use vncviewer I can see my remote desktop but the panels load for a second then keep dissapearing. I's unusable Here's a screenshot http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/numbers6554/Screenshot2.png any ideas?
[02:27] <roh> phpnuborn, if you want a gui way to disable the gui, you can use the "Services" config application
[02:27] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : settings > boot-up manager
[02:27] <boggle> gorski: no idea about gparted, but there is ntfsresize in ntfsprogs
[02:27] <boggle> gorski: in general, unmounting a partition and having a backup of your disk is advisable when resizing any
[02:28] <boggle> gorski: partition, no matter what type
[02:28] <soundray> phpnuborn: System-Administration-Services. Disable gdm. On next boot, you'll get text mode only.
[02:29] <openexit> hey.. How can i configure X to use a screensaver (xlock)
[02:29] <roh> i think xubuntu uses xdm instead of gdm, but it'll be much the same
[02:29] <soundray> gorski: yes, you can resize fat32
[02:29] <poolkey172> roh : yup ure right
[02:29] <gorski> do i need to unmount the partition first, 'cause it want to resize mounted?
[02:29] <soundray> openexit: System-Preferences-Screensaver
[02:30] <snIphe> hi all
[02:30] <openexit> soundray - i need to do it with config files
[02:30] <soundray> gorski: definitely, yes
[02:30] <openexit> or with commands
[02:30] <roh> tripppy, to run another file you can just execute it as you would from the command line
[02:30] <snIphe> I have ubuntu and I want to join to a wireless AP wich have DHCP
[02:30] <gorski> ok, thank you very much.
[02:30] <snIphe> how can i do it in Xterm mode ?
[02:30] <gorski> soundray, will i lose my data?
[02:31] <sod75> snIphe: check out iwscan and iwconfig
[02:31] <soundray> gorski: no, but you should still have a backup as a precaution.
[02:31] <roh> tripppy: to run a script from the GUI you can double-click in the file browser
[02:31] <snIphe> ok iwconfig I know it, because my wardriving lessons jejej
[02:31] <tripppy> roh, one command runs a program listening - dund - how do i continue commands after this?
[02:31] <roh> tripppy, or you can create a "launcher" icon
[02:31] <gorski> ok, tnx
[02:31] <gorski> .
[02:31] <runes> anyone know how to set up symlinks so that they show in ftp session?
[02:31] <A[D] minS> i installed last xchat but it didn't working with spell checker
[02:31] <A[D] minS> so any idea why ?
[02:32] <snIphe> but know I have a WEP but the AP has the DHCP mode on and i can renew my ip address
[02:32] <roh> tripppy, put an ampersand afterwards, so: dund &
[02:32] <poolkey172> how do i list channels in konversation ?
[02:32] <sod75> snIphe: exact config depends on which card you have and theefore which driver too
[02:33] <sod75> snIphe: check wpa_supplicant
[02:33] <snIphe> ok now I have the d-link g122 with rt73 driver....
[02:33] <snIphe> ok I`m writing all the commands. This afternoon I`ll try it
[02:34] <snIphe> [sod75]  wpa_supplicant is for retreive wpa ?? or something related with dhcp ?
[02:35] <tripppy> roh, i love you!
[02:35] <poolkey172> snlphe : man interfaces : then modify /etc/network/interfaces accordingly;  finally ifdown yourinterface; ifup yourinterface
[02:36] <soundray> openexit: you want to lock a running X session via a command?
[02:36] <snIphe> ok thanks all , later I`ll try it
[02:36] <snIphe> thanks
[02:37] <VigoFusion> soundray: You can use the LockScreen?
[02:37] <soundray> VigoFusion: I'm not the one looking for help -- openexit is.
[02:38] <sod75> Anyone know how to see detailed info about update, as in what's the difference whith the currently installed version, bugs that are fixed, etc ?
[02:38] <sod75> updates *
[02:38] <soundray> sod75: there is a changelog for each package in /usr/share/doc/packagename/
[02:38] <sod75> soundray: thanks, I'll check
[02:39] <sod75> soundray: uh, that directory doesn't exist, I'm on dapper btw
[02:39] <VigoFusion> soundray: Oh, its a command line thing, lemee check my UNIX book, (I have a VERY old one.)
[02:39] <sod75> soundray: sorry, copy paste error
[02:39] <soundray> sod75: you need to replace 'packagename' with the name of the package you are interested in.
[02:40] <openexit> soundray - well no.. I want to set xlock (with -nolock mode on, i.e its a screensaver) to run after a certain amount of inactivity
[02:41] <VigoFusion> soundray: srry, this manual is incorrect one,,,,
[02:42] <openexit> soundray - aparently it works the same way as xscreensaver does.. I just dont know how to configure X to run the app after x amount of inactivity
[02:42] <p_masho> HELP!! can I recover a directory I deleted with rm -f -r *
[02:42] <hesperia> hi guys :)
[02:43] <hesperia> how can i disable  IPv6 in the LiveCD?
[02:43] <boggle> p_masho: that's kind of tricky. Best you turn off the box before any of that free disk space is reused
[02:43] <soundray> !xautolock | openexit
[02:43] <ubotu> xautolock: Program launcher for idle X sessions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1-7 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 92 kB
[02:44] <boggle> p_masho: http://e2undel.sourceforge.net/recovery-howto.html
[02:44] <sod75> p_masho: if your filesystem ext3, probably not, ext2 , what boggle just said
[02:44] <boggle> p_masho: I've never used e2undel, but recovered succesfully some files with debugfs.
[02:44] <hesperia> gosh, net feels slow...
[02:45] <VigoFusion> soundray: Whats the command to Lock Screen in Graphic Mode? its also a sudo | command~thingy,,,it prolly work in Text.
[02:45] <boggle> p_masho + sod75: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/30/1652211, no idea if it works
[02:46] <boggle> only works when a process was still accessing the file though
[02:47] <openexit> yeah its installed
[02:47] <openexit> oooh i see
[02:47] <poolkey172> xscreensaver-command -lock
[02:47] <openexit> so xautolock is a daemon that checks for idle sessions
[02:47] <openexit> and launchs a program...
[02:48] <soundray> openexit: that's how I understand it
[02:48] <openexit> i thought you could configure X to do this directly
[02:49] <openexit> alrightly... let me five this a go then
[02:50] <wspinto_> hi! please any people install ltsp4.2 in ubuntu6.10?
[02:53] <VigoFusion> wspinto: Using Synaptic?
[02:53] <wspinto_> Hi! Any people install ltsp4.2 in ubuntu6.10?
[02:54] <VigoFusion> wspinto_: Is it listed in the Synaptic Package Manager?
[02:55] <runes> !pastebin
[02:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:56] <poolkey172> !pastebin
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:56] <nom> Hello how ca go?
[02:56] <elTigre> hi
[02:56] <elTigre> I have some show-stopping problems in my edgy installation....
[02:57] <elTigre> for example I can't run python gtk programs, and the /boot/grub/menu.lst is made unbootable whenever dpkg touches
[02:57] <elTigre> it
[02:57] <Crescendo> When trying to connect to an ubuntu machine via vnc, I get the following: "ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)"
[02:58] <wspinto_> how to change the runlevel in ubuntu 6.10?
[02:59] <soundray> elTigre: which python gtk program can't you run? Is it homemade?
[02:59] <Duesentrieb> hi all - after half a day of digging around, i finally got k3b to work with my laptop. now i'd like to share the info on the ubuntu wiki, but i'm unsure about local structures and customs. Would I simply edit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto ? and what's the difference between help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com?
[02:59] <elTigre> gnome-sudoku and everything else
[02:59] <elTigre> I also can't import gtk from the python interpreter
[02:59] <Duesentrieb> I'm too used to the wikipedia way, i guess...
[03:00] <EDinNY> wspinto_, you mean initial runlevel, or runlevel after your system boots?
[03:00] <soundray> elTigre: did you upgrade or install afresh?
[03:00] <Duesentrieb> anyone around with experience on the ubuntu wiki?
[03:00] <elTigre> upgrade
[03:00] <sod75> Duesentrieb: no idea personally, but I'd just go ahead, they can always move it :)
[03:01] <soundray> elTigre: did you install ubuntu-desktop before you did so?
[03:01] <elTigre> and no, I won't reinstall ubuntu... my disk drive literally eats boot disks....
[03:01] <sod75> Duesentrieb: info at a wrong place is still better then no infi
[03:01] <elTigre> I made sure to
[03:01] <Duesentrieb> sod75: true. Be Bold, and all that :P
[03:01] <soundray> elTigre: does 'sudo apt-get -f install' report any incomplete installs?
[03:01] <elTigre> I think I installed xubuntu-desktop
[03:02] <elTigre> yes, python-setuptool
[03:02] <elTigre> s
[03:02] <Celldweller> its frustratin;'
[03:02] <highneko> Can someone help me with this problem please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1813183
[03:02] <soundray> elTigre: can you pastebin that output? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:02] <Celldweller> but i refuse to be a self install dumbass
[03:02] <elTigre> no, at the moment I can't....
[03:02] <EkUmBa> hello there
[03:03] <elTigre> I have to rerun that
[03:03] <EkUmBa> does anyone know,how to install win xp on a ubuntu system without problems?
[03:03] <elTigre> and that will take quite a while usually
[03:03] <soundray> elTigre: rerun what?
[03:03] <nom> Why you re-lays not? You it is because I am French!
[03:03] <elTigre> apt-get -f install
[03:04] <Crescendo> EkUmBa, use a seperate HDD.
[03:04] <elTigre> well now there aren't any errors
[03:04] <EkUmBa> i just have ONE
[03:04] <nom> Who speaks French?
[03:04] <soundray> elTigre: if that takes long to run, you haven't finished your installation properly.
[03:04] <soundray> !fr | nom
[03:04] <ubotu> nom: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:04] <elTigre> the python-setuptools thing comes up whenever I install new packages
[03:04] <sod75> EkUmBa: it generally is easier to do it the other way around, as ubuntu will leave you windows and provide a bott method for bot, windows install do not play so nice with already present other OSes
[03:05] <soundray> elTigre: that's why you need to fix it. I could help you fix it if you pasted the output I asked you for.
[03:05] <EkUmBa> hmm...so i can forget it :-(
[03:05] <elTigre> apt-get -f install exits cleanly now...
[03:05] <elTigre> I will try to install some package to provoke an error
[03:05] <sod75> EkUmBa: no, but you have to know how to do it....
[03:06] <EkUmBa> and how do i do it without a hdd crash,followed by reforamt issues :-)..is it difficult to handle?
[03:06] <soundray> EkUmBa: if you have a sufficiently sized free primary partition, you should be okay. Just fix grub afterwards.
[03:07] <soundray> elTigre: now, what happens to your menu.lst?
[03:07] <EkUmBa> well,let me explain the main problem,why i want to install xp.i have a program,which makes a cd self check.but this program is just for win nt/xp.so,wine can't hande it....so i tried
[03:07] <EkUmBa> didn't work out
[03:07] <EkUmBa> any ideas?
[03:07] <elTigre> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=5b6b4d05-1ce9-4eb4-bc7f-aadb32b6c9b5 ro quiet splash
[03:07] <soundray> EkUmBa: what is a CD self check?
[03:08] <EkUmBa> well...the program looks,if it is the original cd,which it is
[03:08] <elTigre> I changed another entry to boot me into my system....
[03:08] <EkUmBa> but with wine,it doesn't work...somehow
[03:10] <Manse> with wine do what?
[03:10] <Crescendo> When trying to connect to an ubuntu machine via vnc, I get the following: "ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)"
[03:10] <sod75> EkUmBa: you can look into vmware, better then a full install
[03:10] <CokeNCode> hey guys, loooking for some video editing software ... can anyone help me out ?
[03:10] <sod75> they have some good/ free/trial options
[03:10] <DevC> hmm can't seem to uprade from 5.10 to 6.06 for some reason. cat /etc/issue says breezy badger5.10  but when I follow the directions for going to 6.06 I do the updates and still end up with 5.10 when I'm done :-/
[03:10] <CokeNCode> they are asf vids, from my camcorder
[03:10] <soundray> elTigre: can you pastebin the whole file?
[03:11] <CokeNCode> preferably something i can 'apt-get install'
[03:11] <sod75> DevC: did you do a dist-upgrade ?
[03:11] <soundray> DevC: what's the output from uname -a ?
[03:11] <elTigre> ok
[03:12] <Manse> anyone running qq with wine?
[03:13] <EkUmBa> the problem is,that the cd has a copy protection,that controls the data on the cd directly with the hardware.so,an emulator will have its problems
[03:13] <EDinNY> does the machine name have to be some minimum length?
[03:13] <DevC> Linux HOMENET 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:13] <EDinNY> I tried to call my machine "ed" during installation and it did not like that
[03:14] <Whitman> Anyone know of a repo that has php 5.2 (and modules) for edgy?
[03:14] <Kaptah> Someone please help me
[03:14] <soundray> !upgrade | DevC
[03:14] <ubotu> DevC: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:14] <Kaptah> can't apt-get lilo
[03:14] <Manse> repo?
[03:14] <sod75> EDinNY: ed is also a command, so maybe that's why
[03:14] <soundray> Kaptah: apt-get install lilo
[03:15] <DevC> sod75 I've been following the Upgrades site that they have up on ubuntu and I did the Breezy 5.10 upgrade now I'm tryin to do the 6.06 so I can go to the new 6.10
[03:15] <DevC> soundray been reading those and following them already
[03:15] <Manse> why not grub
[03:15] <Kaptah> "Package lilo is not available... "
[03:15] <p_masho> which device is the floppy disk by default ? /dev/fd0
[03:15] <Manse> try apt-get install grub
[03:15] <soundray> !lilo | Kaptah
[03:15] <ubotu> Kaptah: lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[03:15] <soundray> !info lilo | Kaptah
[03:15] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.6.1-7ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 335 kB, installed size 1072 kB
[03:15] <EDinNY> sod75, redhat and susa let me call my machine "ed", and my ip address forward and reverse resolves to "ed.q"
[03:16] <soundray> Kaptah: so you haven't configured your repositories correctly.
[03:16] <EDinNY> sod75, rh and susa named my machine from the DNS
[03:16] <Kaptah> i got rid of grub. had an guide to dual boot and it was for lilo
[03:16] <sod75> EDinNY: i said maybe :)
[03:16] <EkUmBa> well,anyway thanks
[03:17] <soundray> Kaptah: you shouldn't follow any guides that aren't ubuntu-specific if there are ubuntu-specific ones around.
[03:17] <Kaptah> LiLo 'cause it presevers xp boot loader
[03:17] <soundray> Kaptah: you don't need XP's boot loader in the MBR if you have grub.
[03:17] <Kaptah> ok, i should use grub
[03:18] <soundray> !dualboot | Kaptah
[03:18] <ubotu> Kaptah: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:18] <DevC> soundray: I've been following that and since I can't do upgrades properly with firefox open I've been looking off my laptop and I've followed everything it has said to do according to that UpgradeNotes site...I'm currently on the upgrading from 5.10 to 6.06 page (as I've done the upgrade to 5.10
[03:18] <Kaptah> thanks :) i'll study these
[03:19] <Crescendo> When trying to connect to an ubuntu machine via vnc, I get the following: "ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)"
[03:19] <Kaptah> do you know if this works in case of xp SP3,4,5... updates
[03:19] <DevC> I've done what the site says for going to 6.06 and rebooted but it still says issue is 5.10 and not 6.06
[03:19] <Manse> 6.10 has released
[03:19] <Kaptah> ..meaning boot sequences won't change
[03:20] <soundray> DevC: can you give me the URL of the page that you are following
[03:20] <DevC> Manse: yeah but to upgrade you have to go 5.04 to 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.10
[03:20] <DevC> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[03:21] <soundray> Kaptah: yes, the instructions will work. In the worst case, you will have to follow another HOWTO for rescuing grub.
[03:21] <AngryElf_> Why is it that firefox Crtl+Scroll Wheel Zooming feature works so much better in Winblows than ubuntu and can it be fixed?
[03:21] <elTigre> soundray: I pasted it
[03:21] <rickympl> lspci shows a recognized sound card, but i cant select it or use it in volume control
[03:21] <elTigre> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34357/
[03:21] <DevC> soundray: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[03:22] <DevC> brb got to change and dress son
[03:22] <Kaptah> can I tell Grub to build it's boot sector not in the MBR, but /dev/sda6 ?
[03:22] <soundray> elTigre: what's your root partition device name?
[03:23] <elTigre> /dev/hda8
[03:23] <Ranbee> hi, can the normal ubuntu install (as opposed to the alternate install) let you put grub on a floppy?
[03:24] <soundray> elTigre: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34358/ (changed the kopt line). Change your menu.lst accordingly and run 'sudo update-grub'.
[03:25] <soundray> elTigre: erm, do you have separate root and boot partitions?
[03:26] <elTigre> I had separate root and boot partitions
[03:26] <elTigre> however I changed that
[03:26] <elTigre> I continously ran into trouble because of no disk space left
[03:27] <soundray> elTigre: okay, that's the reason why update-grub did the wrong thing for you. If you make the change I suggested, and you have /boot on /dev/hda8, it will be fine.
[03:28] <lakio> hello friends..
[03:28] <elTigre> thanks
[03:28] <lakio> anyone know of an Evolution mail plugin that will give notification in the toolbar when there is mail?
[03:30] <burner> lakio: thunderbird ;)  I know of nothing for evolution
[03:30] <soundray> !gnubiff | lakio
[03:30] <ubotu> gnubiff: A mail notification program for GNOME (and others). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[03:30] <Skello> Hi everyone, i'm new to Ubuntu, is there any kind of graphical interface that would allow me to set up routes if i use the Ubuntu box as router for my LAN, for example if i have two separate internet connections working simultaneously on two separate devices?
[03:31] <lakio> aha..unfortunately I think I have to use evolution for calendaring
[03:33] <EkUmBa> re
[03:34] <soundray> lakio: you can configure gnubiff to monitor your evolution mailfolder
[03:34] <EkUmBa> does anyone know,how i can usw vmware to emulate win xp or so?or how do i use vmware?haven't found anything useful with google,and i don't have much time
[03:35] <soundray> Skello: I think you may be able to use firestarter for that.
[03:35] <EkUmBa> when i start the player,it wants load a vmx file
[03:35] <soundray> !info firestarter | Skello
[03:35] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[03:35] <Nick1> I got some problem........could someone help?
[03:35] <stefg> EkUmBa: /j #vmware
[03:35] <soundray> !ask
[03:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:35] <sod75> EkUmBa: vmware let's you install any (supported) os in a virtual machine
[03:36] <sod75> EkUmBa: it's non-free though
[03:36] <LadyNikon> there is a part of the bot that is programmed for that
[03:36] <LadyNikon> ha
[03:36] <Skello> soundray i have installed firestarter, however i don't see an option for setting routes, i only have options for NAT/port forwarding
[03:36] <Duesentrieb> EkUmBa: the player needs an existing vm. if you need to create a vm, you have to install the vmware server.
[03:36] <Vigor> Am I back?
[03:36] <Vigor> YAY!
[03:36] <soundray> Vigor: no
[03:36] <EkUmBa> so,...i just can install win xp with vmware?
[03:36] <Vigor> Oh heck, I aint?
[03:37] <Vigor> arrrghhhhh
[03:37] <sod75> EkUmBa: yes
[03:37] <soundray> Vigor: sry, that joke is "de rigeur" in here
[03:37] <Duesentrieb> EkUmBa: the "vm" is a simulated computer, including dives, network cards, a simulated bios, etc. you can install pretty much anything.
[03:37] <Vigor> Aye
[03:37] <EkUmBa> where do i get these vmx files?
[03:37] <Duesentrieb> you create them using the server
[03:37] <Skello> soundray could it be because i'm not running Ubuntu on that particular network setup yet ? with 3 devices, two for internet, one for LAN ? i'm running on a test box now with a single NIC just to make sure i have the tools i need to achieve this
[03:37] <anto> how do i un "rar " a filename.ro1 ?
[03:37] <EkUmBa> vmx for win xp especially
[03:38] <sod75> EkUmBa: http://www.vmware.com/
[03:38] <Duesentrieb> EkUmBa: only the server version allows you to create/define a new virtual pc. the player just lets you access existing ones.
[03:38] <EkUmBa> yes,i have looked there,but haven't found any vmx for win xp
[03:38] <Duesentrieb> the server is free for linux
[03:38] <Duesentrieb> you don't doewnload a vmx.
[03:38] <Duesentrieb> you install the server and create it
[03:39] <Duesentrieb> note that vmware has to be compiled for your system. but the installer is pretty decent, if the command line doesn't scare you
[03:39] <soundray> Skello: I don't think I can be of any help there. Maybe ask the channel again.
[03:40] <Skello> soundray sure np, i appreciate the effort though, thanks
[03:40] <Vigor> This is fun, relearning all this stuff is neato skeeto
[03:40] <Duesentrieb> anyway... as a note to the general public:
[03:40] <Duesentrieb> got problems with cdrecord? use libburn + cdrskin
[03:41] <Duesentrieb> works perfectly for me :)
[03:41] <cute_killer> where i can softs
[03:41] <cute_killer> from net???
[03:41] <Vigor> Duesentrieb: Did you post that to the Forums?
[03:41] <LordMetroid> Hm, I tried to find a package for LaTeX but could only find latex-base for 2.09 which is obsolete according to the package manager?
[03:42] <LordMetroid> WHat am I suppose to install?
[03:42] <Nick1> I got a "ubuntu" cd 6.06 LTS, and I already installed it on mycomputer but when I boot for ubuntu from my hdd, it doesn't work. (When boot from CD, it's working)
[03:42] <sod75> cute_killer: just use the synaptec, maybe enable the extra repositories. all the functinality to danwload and install is already built-in
[03:43] <Vigor> Nick1: Did you run the gpart?
[03:43] <DevC> brb again now I have to help my wife get dressed lol
[03:43] <sod75> cute_killer: or on the command line "sudo apt-get install whatever_you_want_to download_and_install
[03:43] <norgul> hi folks
[03:43] <Nick1> what is gpart? I'm new here :P.....
[03:43] <Vigor> !gpart
[03:43] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[03:43] <norgul> have som problems with updating apt
[03:44] <norgul> 99% [8 Sources gzip 0]                                               23.4kB/s 0s
[03:44] <norgul> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:44] <norgul> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources
[03:44] <norgul>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:44] <norgul> Fetched 196B in 6s (32B/s)
[03:44] <norgul> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:44] <norgul> Reading package lists... Done
[03:44] <norgul> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:44] <norgul> i get this at the end
[03:45] <norgul> someone that can help me?
[03:45] <devilsadvocate> \
[03:45] <kambakth_lucky> anyone configured ipw3945ABG for Edgy?
[03:45] <Vigor> norgul: Do you have Multiverse enabled?
[03:45] <Nick1> Vigor : I though I didn't run gpart...
[03:46] <Duesentrieb> Vigor: i wrote something here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto - if you know another good place, please tell...
[03:46] <Vigor> Nick1: It runs at the end of the install, or should....
[03:46] <Duesentrieb> it's probably interresting to k3b users, but it's not rellay k3b-specific
[03:46] <norgul> i have used the repositories from ubuntuguide.org
[03:47] <LordMetroid> ahh tetex...
[03:48] <norgul> how do i check about multiverse is enabled?
[03:48] <Mook`> Recommendations for a good sound card with digital out for Ubuntu?
[03:48] <Vigor> norgul: In the Synaptic Package Manager is a checklist for that
[03:49] <Nick1> Vigor : My problem is, when it all installed (100% complete), it alway reboot on ubuntu loaing screen...May I do the gpart to reslove this problem?
[03:49] <highneko> norgul: grep 'multiverse' '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:49] <norgul> thanks
[03:49] <highneko> norgul: If those lines are commented you have to uncomment them.
[03:49] <headhunter> hi
[03:50] <norgul> they are not commented
[03:50] <headhunter> i'm searching a deb package for a gtk1 build of firefox1 or 2.. anybody knows where to get one?
[03:50] <Vigor> Nick1: I am a totall noob to this stuff, but gpart helped me install and repartion my NTFS drive to install Ubuntu6.10
[03:50] <thiebaude> welcome to 6.10
[03:51] <kaur> speedsteping doesn't work and dmesg says something similar to this: [17179574.040000]  ACPI Exception (acpi_processor-0693): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20060707
[03:51] <norgul> any ideas?
[03:51] <kaur> How to fix?
[03:51] <kaur> it is killing my laptop's batteries
[03:51] <Nick1> Vigor: Ok, thanks for trying for help, I'll try.....
[03:52] <norgul> lol
[03:52] <Vigor> norgul: Download gpart from Ubuntu/Debian and run it. At is all I can think of
[03:52] <norgul> the internet connection really slow
[03:52] <norgul> what the heck?
[03:53] <norgul> 76kb/sec
[03:53] <Vigor> LiveCD?
[03:53] <norgul> nope
[03:53] <PecisDarbs> !intel
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <norgul> i'm running ubuntu
[03:54] <Vigor> norgul: Is it set up on a Slave with WinXP?
[03:54] <norgul> nope
[03:55] <Vigor> norgul: Is a fresh clean install on a single HDD with no other OS present?
[03:55] <Cyberai> I installed a new Linksys Wireless PCI card yesterday and set it up using nswrapper. But it has a hard time seeing my base station 20 feet away and loses connection constantly. it also looses its config if rebooted. Does anyone have any recommendations for me to fix this?
[03:55] <yanger> what causes resolve.conf to change? I set it up, but every now and then, it gets reset to a setting that won't work thus my server can't dns correctly until i adjust resolve.conf again...
[03:55] <norgul> i erased the whole disk
[03:56] <Vigor> norgul: uhm, you cant just erase XP, you can, but there is a trick to it.
[03:57] <norgul> god, i hate winxp
[03:57] <Vigor> !wireless
[03:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:57] <norgul> so now i have done something stupid?
[03:58] <Vigor> norgul: Naw, just look at Fred Langas site, or some site you trust and know on how to REMOVE winXP
[03:58] <Guerrand> norgul... dont worry stupidity is a common problem for me :P
[03:58] <sod75> yanger: DHCP might server send dns config overwrinting yours ?
[03:58] <norgul> i habe already removed windows
[03:59] <Vigor> I thought I had also, that drive is in the garbage now.
[03:59] <norgul> really?
[03:59] <sod75> Vigor: why ?
[04:00] <sod75> what's so special about XP that a format won't fix ?
[04:00] <norgul> fuck, i'm getting very angry on microsoft now
[04:00] <Vigor> WinXP has a nasty way of locking itself into the BIOS, especially a Factory Install
[04:00] <norgul> w8
[04:00] <norgul> i have an extra disk here
[04:00] <norgul> i can replace it
[04:01] <sod75> Vigor: that still doesn mess up you hd , would it ? and just flash your bios then
[04:01] <norgul> one thing, i installed edgy yesterday and it worked nice. apt updated nicely and so on
[04:01] <norgul> beryl ran nice
[04:01] <Vigor> Ok, I left mine on, I dont access it much, and I shrunk its partition down to minimum, its there, I just dont use it, much
[04:01] <norgul> so did i switch screen to lcd 27"
[04:02] <norgul> tv
[04:02] <norgul> but the resolution got fucked up, so i installed edgy at new
[04:02] <norgul> and now it is crappy
[04:02] <Vigor> sod75: Its not really a flash, well it is, but its a goofy one
[04:03] <norgul> lemme see
[04:03] <Vigor> Language please.
[04:03] <norgul> what?
[04:03] <Vigor> 2 many open windows
[04:04] <norgul> ok
[04:04] <norgul> i have an extra hdd here
[04:04] <Crescendo> When trying to connect to an ubuntu machine via vnc, I get the following: "ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)"
[04:04] <norgul> i can replace that one with that i have in the computer now
[04:05] <Vigor> Set the XP one as Main in BIOS, yes its a Microsoft thing, set the Ubuntu as a Slave
[04:06] <norgul> but i dont have xp
[04:06] <Vigor> What system did you have?
[04:06] <norgul> the other hdd is clean
[04:06] <Vigor> Oh neaters
[04:07] <norgul> the hdd i'm using now is using ubuntu
[04:07] <TheWheat> hey guys i've upgraded from kubuntu dapper to edgy and now when I try ctrl+alt+f1 instead of showing the console the screen just shows some funny lines and stuff. anybody know whats up with that? it worked perfectly b4 the upgrade
[04:07] <norgul> has got ubuntu*
[04:08] <abes> oh that was a violent lag!
[04:09] <kaur> speedsteping doesn't work and dmesg says something similar to this: [17179574.040000]  ACPI Exception (acpi_processor-0693): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present. Any ideas about how to fix are welcome...
[04:09] <abes> is it common that wi-fi likes to "spike" or it's just my router? :P
[04:10] <yanger> sod75, i'll have to check that.. the dhcp server is a m0n0wall server ;/ so... maybe...
[04:10] <norgul> the hdd i have next to me has 120 gb
[04:10] <Vigor> abes: Depends on the WiFi Signal, alotta times
[04:11] <beasty> you gota love my wifi range
[04:11] <abes> kaur: does it have anything to do with hibernating?
[04:11] <Coffee502> n'abend zusammen
[04:11] <abes> Vigor: well it seems like it works weird over wi-fi all the time....
[04:11] <abes> Vigor: let me check another router on another network... brb
[04:11] <norgul> should i try to install ubuntu again?
[04:12] <Vigor> abes: It could be any number of things ,honestly, all I know about WiFi is what I know learned in HAM,LORAN,VHF and Broadcasting
[04:12] <kaur> abes: hibernating works after some modifications but the cpu is way too hot. That is the main problem, because I'm using a laptop
[04:12] <norgul> i'll give it a try
[04:12] <norgul> see ya
[04:12] <Coffee502> who can call me a german ubuntu IRC?
[04:12] <gbw> hello, i am trying to build my own linux cd with ubuntu 6.10, in which i want to have a webserver installed, anyone has a good tutorial or link how i can do that?
[04:12] <mnepton> !it > tux75
[04:12] <Vigor> Yes, norgul, thats makes sence
[04:13] <turbopc> hmm
[04:13] <norgul> lol, 7kb/sec
[04:14] <turbopc> damn... does anyone have an op here? can u kick "abes" so I can switch back to my nick? :P
[04:14] <Crescendo> When trying to connect to an ubuntu machine via vnc, I get the following: "ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)"
[04:14] <tux75> hello
[04:14] <icheyne> which cd rippers are you boys using?
[04:14] <tux75> anybody can help me with a "unknown FAIL_DELAY" error, pls?
[04:15] <marlun> Why can't I find mozilla-mplayer in the repositories anymore? I've uncommented every repository in the source.list.
[04:15] <turbopc> Crescendo: have u checked http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402 ?
[04:16] <Vigor> Crescendo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307028&highlight=vnc maybe
[04:16] <Crescendo> turbopc, yep, I've looked at that one.
[04:16] <gbw> a link for me please =)
[04:16] <tux75> what about a FAIL_DELAY error, friends?
[04:17] <turbopc> tux75: have u checked http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-276858.html ?
[04:17] <Vigor> gbw: I have a nasty cold or something, am very slow today,,,well am slow everyday, but twice bad this day
[04:17] <turbopc> Btw... I just received my UBUNTU MUG and HOODIE!!!! w00t! w00t! :P
[04:17] <turbopc> Vigor: lol :P
[04:17] <gbw> Vigor, wish you healthy
[04:18] <roh> tux75, when do you get the FAIL_DELAY error?
[04:18] <turbopc> Vigor: I hope you have an antivirus ;]
[04:18] <grunger> wtf? "sudo : unable to execute /usr/bin/eciadsl-config-tk: No such file or directory". But there is ! Why doesn't it work !
[04:18] <tux75> roh, i get this error whe i try to log in a terminal or in a console..
[04:18] <Vigor> My AV scrip just expired
[04:18] <tux75> turbopc, i seen the forum you suggest me, but it doesn't offer any solution..
[04:18] <Yoric> Hi.
[04:19] <soundray> grunger: it's not finding another file or directory referenced inside that script.
[04:19] <p_masho> now do I make my removable USB drive writable by root ?
[04:19] <Yoric> I just realized that my computer comes with a so-called "Smart card keyboard", including a smart card reader. Does anyone know where to look for more information on this ? That is drivers, applications, APIs...
[04:19] <soundray> p_masho: what filesystem is on that drive?
[04:19] <tux75> roh, whe* whenever (sorry)
[04:19] <Vigor> masho: Give the USB sudo privelages?
[04:19] <turbopc> p_masho: where is the USB mounted?
[04:20] <GionnyBoss> hi all :)
[04:20] <roh> tux75, Google tells me that there is a bug filed for it and that there is a workaround https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/73024
[04:20] <turbopc> p_masho: you can just use chmod -R 755 /dev/usb or wherever u have it mounted
[04:20] <gbw> Vigor, btw, do you know what i meant? for example ubuntu is shipped with  applications like firefox, i want to have my own created ubuntu cd whiich will installed webserver if people use it to install ubuntu
[04:21] <soundray> Yoric: search the web for terms like 'manufacturer model smartcard linux'
[04:21] <Eri> hola
[04:21] <soundray> Yoric: sometimes it can be useful to look up the USB id with lsusb and stfw for that.
[04:21] <GionnyBoss> can anybody help me letting my Canon scanner work under Ubuntu 6.10, please? xsane seems not to recognise it (and I read that unfortunately Canon scanner are not officially supported under Linux) ... does anybody have the same problem and solved it?
[04:21] <Yoric> soundray: sounds like a plan, thanks.
[04:21] <Eri> i need help with cedega
[04:21] <tux75> roh, so i just need to comment the line of /etc/login.defs? and what it happen then? really the FAIL_DELAY is not necessary?
[04:22] <turbopc> GionnyBoss: what is the exact model of the scanner?
[04:22] <AnthonyG> Hello everyone :D
[04:22] <soundray> GionnyBoss: you should look up the latest news about your scanner on the sane website
[04:22] <turbopc> AnthonyG: Hello :P
[04:22] <Vigor> gbw: Yes. I understood that, I would suggest useing the ShipIt method. Across lines Installs are great, but the ShipIt method is better cause then they get their own Install CDs, unlike some companies....
[04:23] <GionnyBoss> CanoScan LIDE370
[04:23] <grunger> anybody got eciadsl working on Edgy Eft?
[04:23] <Celldweller> ecaidsl?
[04:23] <GionnyBoss> soundray, ok, I go and check on SANE website now
[04:23] <AnthonyG> I may have found the solution to my modem problems (After many pots of coffee and searching) , Would http://ltmodem.heby.de/martian-full-20061110.tar.gz   be sufficient for my AgereSystems V.92 56K Modem?
[04:23] <r000t> could someone please help me understand a problem with mysql replication .. i have configured master/slave and when i try  "LOAD DATA FROM MASTER;"  i get "Access denied for user 'slave_user'@'testserver' (using password: YES)"
[04:23] <gbw> Vigor, what is ShipIt method?
[04:23] <grunger> modem drivers for GlobanSpan chipset
[04:23] <DevC> ok back and still no closer to figuring out why I can't upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 following the upgrade notes for Dapper Drake
[04:24] <GionnyBoss> you know, this thing is very important for me... untill I can't get this scanner work under Ubuntu, my father will keep using Windows... and I'm trying to convince him that Linux is so much better :P
[04:24] <gbw> !shipit
[04:24] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[04:24] <Vigor> Oh
[04:24] <icheyne> which cd rippers are you boys using?
[04:24] <gbw> Vigor, i see, but that is not i want, with ship it, i will get only pre configured cd
[04:24] <tux75> anybody can explain me why my swap result with a priority=-1? (mangage suggest into 0 and 32767)
[04:25] <Vigor> Yes, gotcha
[04:25] <gbw> i want to add extra apps and then burn it in a new iso cd
[04:25] <r000t> noone here understand mysql master/slave configurations then huh :(
[04:25] <soundray> GionnyBoss: if it needs convincing, it'll be tough. People have to discover it for themselves.
[04:25] <Celldweller> rOOOOt
[04:25] <Celldweller> no
[04:25] <Celldweller> i dont think so
[04:25] <Celldweller> forums are really good to check in tho
[04:25] <AnthonyG> grunger: Was that directed at me? Those drivers are for Kernel > 2.12.* and Lucent/Agere chipsets :)
[04:25] <mseney> is ebay the best place to get a 700 Mhz Laptop for the best price?
[04:26] <sod75> DevC: if your /home/is on a seperate partition you could you do a clean install of 6.10 without loosing your files (do a backup though if you can)
[04:26] <personal> jooos
[04:26] <DevC> the update package is looking at Breezy, do I need to change that like I did for got from 5.06 to 5.10
[04:26] <tux75> anybody can explain me why my swap result with a priority=-1, while the mangage suggest into 0 and 32767??
[04:27] <Celldweller> because you swapped it wrong
[04:27] <norgul> back
[04:27] <GionnyBoss> soundray, that's true! but I guess that he is discovering it by itself, he tryed to use Ubuntu on my computer and he found it fast, simple... he just doesn't care very much about it... he just needs that things work... but you know, I'm trying to tell him that if things works well with both for him, why shouldn't he use and support Linux and the good philosophy that there is behind it?
[04:27] <soundray> tux75: don't repeat, rephrase (and correct your typos in the process)
[04:28] <norgul> *erase the entire disk*
[04:28] <GionnyBoss> soundray, sorry for my awful english (I'm italian)
[04:28] <gbw> Vigor, are you still helping me?
[04:28] <soundray> GionnyBoss: your English is fine (by my German standards)
[04:28] <moo`> Anyone know what might be the problem here? Using ubuntu edgy 6.10 - disabled screensaver and dpms, and console blanking and yet after 10 minutes of idle my screen will blank even when watching movies etc in mplayer - driving me nuts now.
[04:28] <GionnyBoss> soundray, are you German? I'm going to Berlin for 2 months... leaving wednesday :P
[04:29] <Vigor> gbw: I don't know which applications or programs you are adding, so I cannot say if it is legal or accepted policy of the policy of canonical,FSF, or certain US laws.
[04:29] <mseney> moo`, is it a laptop?
[04:29] <sod75> moo`: known bug
[04:29] <moo`> no its not a laptop
[04:29] <moo`> is there anything i can do to stop it?
[04:29] <tux75> soundray, i didn't understand.. sorry..
[04:29] <gbw> Vigor, i want to installed apache, mysql, php in it
[04:29] <moo`> its driving me mad, cant watch films etc
[04:30] <GionnyBoss> soundray, but my German is awful, I can say "ich spreche kein deutsch" and nothing more :P my girlfriend is from Berlin... but we speak only italian... ok sorry for the parenthesis :P
[04:30] <sod75> moo`: there were some workarounds irrc, but can't remeber by heart
[04:30] <bidha2kbsd> i was migrating /etc/passwd, group and shadow along with related /home directory .. to next server as part of server migration is there any good tools that does this safely..i have to keep look all those uid or gid...to make sure no mismatch occured..or is there any best way to do this...
[04:30] <soundray> GionnyBoss: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
[04:30] <Vigor> gbw: Use the Synaptic Package Manager for that, its easy
[04:30] <GionnyBoss> soundray, thanks ;)
[04:30] <AnthonyG> Anyone care to give a yay or nay?
[04:30] <moo`> if i format and reinstall 6.06 does it have the same bug?
[04:30] <norgul> installing edgy eft
[04:30] <poolkey172> Hi again : Got a problem : Grub hangs at 'GRUB' what does this mean ?
[04:30] <abes> Wow.... never knew about the "cal" command :P
[04:31] <GionnyBoss> soundray, I didn't found that model... those Vendor ID and Product ID are the one that I can see with 'sane-find-scanners' command?
[04:31] <fnf> Hello, is there anyone here compiled the Intel PRO Wireless driver ? It's driving me crazy, I couldn't figure out how to resolve the errors.
[04:31] <sod75> moo`: I didn't have it on 6.06, but have on 6.10
[04:31] <soundray> AnthonyG: it's hard to tell from afar, but it may be worth a try
[04:31] <moo`> ok thanks
[04:31] <soundray> GionnyBoss: no, 'lsusb'
[04:32] <AnthonyG> soundray: Alright , Time for a reboot then :D
[04:32] <AnthonyG> Wish me luck everyone :D
[04:32] <dmnd> anyone who knows a application to automatically login to remote servers with ssh? i dont want to generate dsa keys
[04:32] <gbw> Vigor, i am planning it for a web server, so i will add every apps i want to the cd, then if something bad happens to the server, what i need is to just reinstall with the cd i have, it is easier
[04:32] <dmnd> an X app
[04:32] <poolkey172> hel loooooo
[04:32] <rada> hello
[04:32] <poolkey172> Grub hangs just displays 'GRUB' what does this mean ?
[04:32] <GionnyBoss> soundray, ok thanks, I will try that
[04:32] <moo`> sod75  do you know if its a gnome only thing? if i install and use kde would that mabye fix it ?
[04:33] <fnf> Anyone ? I have installed a new kernel and I need wireless support, but the compilation problem seems to exist only in Ubuntu.
[04:33] <soundray> dmnd: if you want autologin, you will have to do it with keys.
[04:33] <rada> how can i install mac osx on intelbased computer?
[04:33] <Snikles> How do I compile the kernel?
[04:33] <dmnd> soundray: ok, do you know of an X applet/app that allows me to add lot's of ssh connections?
[04:33] <poolkey172> snikes : kernel-howto
[04:33] <Eri> Where is the directory of Cedega's Games?
[04:33] <DevC> ok question...do I need to change breezy to dapper or something to go from 5.10 to 6.06 like I did with hoary to breezy for 5.04 to 5.10? I can't figure out why the upgrade won't work.....5.04 upgraded fine but 5.10 won't :/
[04:33] <dmnd> soundray: something like mac-os has?
[04:33] <soundray> dmnd: no, sorry. apt-cache search
[04:33] <poolkey172> can anyone plz help ?
[04:33] <GionnyBoss> soundray, it is unsupported... I guess I'm not very lucky :(
[04:33] <poolkey172> Grub hangs just displays 'GRUB' what does this mean ?
[04:34] <dmnd> ok
[04:34] <soundray> poolkey172: have some patience
[04:34] <erUSUL> !upgrade | DevC
[04:34] <ubotu> DevC: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:34] <poolkey172> soz soundray
[04:34] <tux75> soundray, can you help me?
[04:34] <soundray> poolkey172: how did you arrive at this situation?
[04:34] <Nick1> I'm back agian, I already install ubuntu cd 6.06 LTS but it show "Missing OS".....how can I do?
[04:34] <Vigor> gbw: Totally understand, You can vnc to them and install as you like, but then again, certain laws apply to certain countries, thank you again microsoft for not allowing freedom of access on an Internet.
[04:34] <poolkey172> I installed grub-install /dev/fd0
[04:34] <fnf> poolkey172: Can you push a LiveCD which has GRUB and do a GRUB reinstall ?
[04:34] <soundray> tux75: no, since I don't understand your question. That's why I suggested rephrasing it.
[04:35] <poolkey172> fnf : ok I'll try but I got the feeling the livecd does not give me all my devices
[04:35] <tux75> ok, sorry.
[04:35] <gbw> Vigor, what you said is irrelevant, i told you, i will just install free apps like apache, mysql, php
[04:35] <poolkey172> fnf : from the livecd I just do grub-install /dev/fd0 ?
[04:36] <tux75> if i type: swapon -s it say:
[04:36] <Vigor> gbw: On your machine, just use the Synaptic Package Manager.
[04:36] <tux75> /dev/hda6                   partition       1028120 0       -1
[04:36] <tux75> where priority= -1
[04:36] <gbw> Vigor, can i do it after that to a install cd?
[04:36] <gerson> hello
[04:36] <Vigor> gbw: Yes
[04:36] <tux75> but in man swapon i read that priority must to be between 0 and 32767
[04:36] <fnf> poolkey172: Do you intend to use the floppy on any other machines ?
[04:36] <mrson> buenas
[04:37] <poolkey172> fnf : no I need to test my installation
[04:37] <tux75> so, what it mean this different priority? and how to fix this problem?
[04:37] <gbw> Vigor, let me check
[04:37] <tux75> soundray, did you understand now?
[04:37] <paradizelost> anyone fix blank screen in vmware console under Xgl/Beryl?
[04:38] <gerson> The one who knows of a program to programme games
[04:38] <fnf> poolkey172: Ok, so that's a bit easier, you need to temporarily mount your target root partition into LiveCD "/" directory
[04:38] <Hobbsee> !pbuilder > jpetso
[04:38] <mrson> buenas
[04:38] <poolkey172> fnf : ok
[04:38] <soundray> tux75: I'm still not clear what the problem is. Why do you worry about the priority? Swap should either work or not. Only if it doesn't work, there's a problem.
[04:38] <gbw> Vigor, i cant find any option in synaptic which can allow me to do that
[04:39] <fnf> poolkey172: The thing is, without a root/boot partition mounted, GRUB have no way to figure out what is your drive geometry to build the correct menu.lst
[04:39] <tux75> ok, and so what is this priority? and how can i know if swap work properlly?
[04:39] <mrson> alguien me puede decir como conectarme a internet con el puerto usb???
[04:39] <poolkey172> fnf : but thats where the problem is : when I mount my filesystem chroot to it : grub-install dont work
[04:39] <Vigor> gbw: you are on Edgy?
[04:39] <poolkey172> fnf : my install has block devices missing !
[04:39] <tiptip> anybody knows a program to save broadcasted flash as video file ? i'm talking about flash movie in video.google.com or youtube.com
[04:40] <abes> cool thing everyone should take a look at: http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/24/20-must-read-howtos-and-guides-for-linux/
[04:40] <bismark> im compiling tapioca-xmpp and i got this error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ljinglesessionphone-0.3"
[04:40] <bismark> any idea?
[04:40] <poolkey172> fnf : so I created them myself like hdb hdb1 etc (where the ubuntu install is)
[04:40] <soundray> tux75: run 'cat /proc/meminfo | grep Swap' and see if the numbers are what you expect.
[04:40] <mrson> hola
[04:40] <trappist> tiptip: you can save videos from google video from right there on the website
[04:40] <abes> tiptip: in google videos you can just choose to save it
[04:40] <fnf> poolkey172: AFAIK, you don't need to chroot into the new environment if you mount it as I do.
[04:40] <gerson> Hola mrso
[04:40] <gerson> hablas espaol
[04:40] <poolkey172> fnf : COOL
[04:40] <abes> tiptip: choose PSP/iPod format or something similar and u have it as MP4
[04:40] <fnf> poolkey172: Really ? You don't see any hd devices ?
[04:40] <_Roman> I have a dual boot laptop (Windows XP Pro/Ubuntu 6.06)  I recently had to reinstall windows which overwrote my boot record.  How can I get it to dual boot again?
[04:40] <mrson> si
[04:40] <poolkey172> I'll try it right now :)
[04:40] <erUSUL> tiptip: google has direct links to save the videos ans i use a greasemonkey script for youtube
[04:40] <gbw> Vigor, yes
[04:40] <mrson> gerson me podrias explicar algo
[04:40] <gerson> que
[04:41] <mrson> q distri usas?
[04:41] <gerson> edubuntu
[04:41] <abes> there is no #ubuntu-es is there? :P
[04:41] <soundray> !es | abes
[04:41] <ubotu> abes: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:41] <abes> lol
[04:41] <mrson> como me conecto a internet por usb
[04:41] <gerson> mrson
[04:41] <Celldweller> i took 4 years of spanish
[04:41] <Celldweller> maybe i can help translate
[04:41] <poolkey172> fnf : I'm in the livecd : about to do mount /dev/hdb1 /
[04:41] <abes> soundray: I know...
[04:42] <Celldweller> tu nececitas leer a la forums
[04:42] <abes> !pl | abes
[04:42] <ubotu> abes: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:42] <mrson> gerson sabes como conectarme a internet por usb en ubuntu???
[04:42] <gerson> bueno en primer lugar nunca me e conectado asi pero te voy a ayudar en lo que puedza
[04:42] <poolkey172> fnf : running grub-install /dev/fd0 failed : unknown partition signature
[04:42] <tux75> well, i cannot execut run '...' by the way if i do cat /proc/meminfo | grep Swap i see that there is a Swap totally free.. is this a good output?
[04:43] <mrson> gerson de donde eres??
[04:43] <poolkey172> fnf : running grub-install /dev/fd0 failed : unknown partition signature + the file /boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly
[04:43] <soundray> tux75: gnome-system-monitor has an entry on swap as well
[04:43] <gerson> de guatemal
[04:43] <Celldweller> es dificil a explicar
[04:43] <gerson> guatemala
[04:43] <Celldweller> enespanol
[04:43] <poolkey172> GRrrrrrr
[04:43] <fnf> poolkey172: mmm...
[04:43] <Celldweller> commandsaloneare a pain
[04:43] <mrson> ok
[04:43] <soundray> tux75: yes it is, it means that your system does not have to resort to using swap space
[04:43] <Celldweller> muchless translating them into spanish
[04:43] <poolkey172> GRrrrrrr getting fed up with grub
[04:43] <dabaR> poolkey172: failed to install grub to the floppy?
[04:43] <Celldweller> use lilo
[04:43] <mrson> gerson, sabes como puedo hacer para q aparezco los iconos de acceso directos en ubuntu
[04:44] <tux75> so that's good..
[04:44] <tux75> thank you soundray .
[04:44] <dabaR> poolkey172: or was it grub-install /dev/hd0 failed?
[04:44] <poolkey172> doing an apt-get install lilo
[04:44] <fnf> poolkey172: I may have missed something here, so you want to make a full GRUB boot floppy ? If so I'll need to do some research...
[04:44] <mrson> gerson es decir la barra donde estan los acceso directos o como se configura
[04:44] <gerson> dandole click izquierdo
[04:44] <soundray> tux75: only when your processes are using all available RAM should the kernel swap to HD.
[04:45] <eimajenthat> Morning.  Having a little trouble on one of my machines.  I noticed last night, it gets a "Cannot connect to server" error, or something to that effect when I try to access myspace.com.  I tried another computer on the same switch, and it worked fine.  I returned to the original computer, and tried a different browser.  No luck.  I tried pinging myspace, and got "no route to host".  I guess it's some kind of DNS issue, but at the m
[04:45] <eimajenthat> oment I'm not smart enough to fix it.  Anyone have any tips?
[04:45] <soundray> poolkey172: lilo on a floppy won't make you happy.
[04:45] <fnf> poolkey172: Will you umount the root partition and recreate the floppy again ? I want to see the menu.lst file, it may have incorrectly built.
[04:45] <mrson> gDesklets ese es?? gerson
[04:45] <zeasier> how can i tell what is using a partition preventing it from being unmounted?
[04:45] <gerson> a si si lo tengo
[04:45] <ailean> !es
[04:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:45] <gerson> perame ahorita voy
[04:45] <poolkey172> soundray: I kow lilo better than grub : POXY apt-get didnt even create a lilo.conf file bck to grub then !
[04:45] <ailean> voy all tambin...
[04:45] <poolkey172> fnf : OK I'll try
[04:46] <soundray> eimajenthat: is it a DHCP setup?
[04:46] <mrson> gerson estas ocupado??
[04:46] <dabaR> zeasier: lsof /dev/ZdXY
[04:46] <ailean> mrson, no habla espaol
[04:46] <eimajenthat> soundray: it is
[04:46] <poolkey172> fnf : cant unmount / device is busy of course
[04:47] <mrson> ailean como?
[04:47] <soundray> eimajenthat: does the problem machine even  get an address through DHCP?
[04:47] <Duesentrieb> um.. does anyone know a bit about alsa or sound drivers in general?
[04:47] <fnf> poolkey172: do a restart pls, I'm curious how it works too.
[04:47] <ailean> mrson, hablar espaol es prohibido aqu. va a #ubuntu-es
[04:47] <Rprp> Hmm, how can i upgrade my openGL for my ATI Driver?
[04:47] <Rprp> I tried everything but still doesnt work L:/
[04:47] <Duesentrieb> i have been trying to get sound working on my laptop for months. the chipset doesn't seem to be supported right
[04:47] <poolkey172> fnf : dudh
[04:47] <mrson> ailean como voy a ubuntu-es
[04:47] <ailean> mrson, sino, pregunte en ingls
[04:47] <abes> whats the difference between "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" ?
[04:47] <eimajenthat> soundray: yes, and it pings other stuff both in my network and on the internet, just not myspace
[04:47] <poolkey172> fnf : duh thats the only thing I cab do :p
[04:48] <ailean> "/join #ubuntu-es"
[04:48] <Duesentrieb> so, i'd like to know if i can just tell it to use it in SB16 mode, and forget about the rest
[04:48] <Duesentrieb> kind of a fail safe, very basic setting.
[04:48] <Duesentrieb> is that possible with alsa (and onboard sound)?
[04:48] <fnf> poolkey172: I'm getting a lot info on creating a GRUB bootable floppy, I'll see what should we do in a few minutes.
[04:48] <incorrect> are there any better tools than cacti / mrtg?
[04:48] <sod75> abes: update just checks for upgrades in the repositories whiytout installing anything
[04:48] <zeasier> dabaR: lsof, thanks'
[04:48] <soundray> eimajenthat: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ? (That's what www.myspace.com resolves to over here)
[04:48] <poolkey172> fnf : Thanks you're a top man
[04:48] <incorrect> a nagios/cacti hybrid would be good
[04:49] <poolkey172> fnf : Thanks you're a top man or gal if I'm lucky ;)
[04:49] <eimajenthat> soundray: I'll check
[04:49] <fnf> poolkey172: Then you're unlucky I presumed ;)
[04:49] <tx> hi all , can diff compare the output of two commans ?
[04:49] <soundray> poolkey172: gals rarely make it to these water :(  ;)
[04:49] <eimajenthat> soundray: also no route to host
[04:49] <fnf> poolkey172: Will you take a look at this ? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Bootable_Floppy_with_GRUB
[04:49] <soundray> waters
[04:50] <tx> like do a diff on two streams
[04:50] <poolkey172> fnf : Unless ure a penguin with a skirt LOL
[04:50] <paradizelost> Found a little glitch - if i run vmware with gksudo, i get no display from the virtual machine, but vmware appears to work fine, no gksudo, and vmware works, with display
[04:50] <abes> Any idea why would Totem give me the error: "The source seems encrypted, and canot be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" although libdvdcss is installed?
[04:50] <sod75> paradizelost: I run vmware without sudo
[04:51] <paradizelost> yes, it works fine without gksudo , but i want my vmware console running with root priv's.
[04:51] <kenThomson3> Can someone please help me? I installed Ubuntu and now i cant boot my Computer!!!
[04:51] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, what do you mean by can't boot your computer?
[04:52] <ifrozen> hali
[04:52] <sod75> kenThomson3: get the livecd, boot from that to repair it
[04:52] <Celldweller> Ken Whatsisname that is an option
[04:53] <Celldweller> or you could tell us why it wont boot up or where it gets to
[04:53] <der0b> paradizelost: have you tried entering an 'xhost +' and then doing the gksudo vmware?
[04:53] <soundray> eimajenthat: do the two machines access different DNS servers?
[04:53] <fnf> poolkey172: How's the situation ? The link I've seen seems to prefer the manual way, which could be better as grub-install assumes a lot of things.
[04:53] <paradizelost> and by "cant boot my computer" do you mean you cant get to windows?
[04:53] <kenThomson3> OK, i installed Ubuntu on hd1, i am having windows on hd0. I put the GRUB on hd1. Than i removed the windows HDD, and put in hd1. Then i got the GRUB screen on booting, but whenever i selected any option i got the message "Error 21:selected disk doesnot exist"
[04:53] <paradizelost> der0b, no, so xhost + gksudo  vmware?
[04:53] <poolkey172> fnf : I'm using it to make a boot floppy manually
[04:54] <kenThomson3> sod75: i am tyoing this from Knoppix live CD
[04:54] <eimajenthat> soundray: I didn't think so, lemme check
[04:54] <abes> !ro | abes
[04:54] <ubotu> abes: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[04:54] <fnf> poolkey172: Good luck :) .
[04:54] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, that's beacuse grub would be referring to /boot on (hd1,1) and it's now (hd0,1)
[04:54] <poolkey172> fnf : :/
[04:54] <paradizelost> because you removed a drive
[04:54] <kenThomson3> Celldweller:	"Ken Whatsisname that is an option". What do you mean?
[04:54] <der0b> paradizelost: nope separate commands.  this is just a guess mind you..  xhost + from the command line and then try launching vmware
[04:54] <Celldweller> lol
[04:54] <Celldweller> sorry
[04:54] <soundray> kenThomson3: when you remove the first HD after installing grub on the second one, grub will get confused because the disk addresses have changed.
[04:54] <Celldweller> i just hit ken and tab
[04:54] <Celldweller> and it came up
[04:54] <Celldweller> i wasnt  looking
[04:54] <gerson> mrson
[04:55] <abes> Any idea why would Totem give me the error: "The source seems encrypted, and canot be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" although libdvdcss is installed?
[04:55] <gerson> ya instalaste el paquete de gdsklets
[04:55] <soundray> kenThomson3: best to not change your hardware and follow one of ubotu's guides:
[04:55] <paradizelost> !es
[04:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:55] <Celldweller> is it configured correctly
[04:55] <soundray> !dualboot | kenThomson3
[04:55] <ubotu> kenThomson3: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:55] <eimajenthat> soundray: In windows, you can get the DNS from the network connection properties, but I don't knw how to do it in linux
[04:55] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, you need to put a hard drive back in, and it will work
[04:55] <fnf> kenThomson3: Depends on how you removed the partition, the order of the partitions may have been shufftled, in which case you need to correct the menu
[04:55] <Celldweller> abes.... configuration?
[04:55] <soundray> eimajenthat: 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[04:55] <paradizelost> fnf, he removed a whole drive
[04:55] <abes> Celldweller: hmmm... what do you mean?
[04:56] <kenThomson3> soundray: Celldweller: paradizelost: But Ubuntu still is on hd1. It's reference in the GRUB hasn't changed. SO i should be able to boot it up, right?
[04:56] <fnf> paradizelost: Ouch.
[04:56] <sod75> kenThomson3: mount you hd in knoppix and edit that /wherever you mounted/boot/grub/menu.list
[04:56] <abes> Celldweller: everything seems to be ok... shuld be working... but it doesnt :)
[04:56] <eimajenthat> soundray: gracias
[04:56] <Celldweller> correct
[04:56] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, no, you need to edit menu.lst to reference the new hard drive position
[04:56] <soundray> kenThomson3: no, if you removed hd0, the former hd1 becomes hd0
[04:56] <Celldweller> hmmm
[04:56] <paradizelost> THEN it will boot
[04:56] <Celldweller> i still say get the live cd
[04:56] <Celldweller> and run linux recovery
[04:56] <sod75> kenThomson3: the first disk it finds becomes hd0
[04:56] <abes> Celldweller: evrything installed according to manuals (libdvdcss2 + w32codecs) but it still doesnt work... :?
[04:56] <gerson> ya instalaste el paquete de gdesklets
[04:57] <paradizelost> so basically, go edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change everything that says (hd1)  to say (hd0)
[04:57] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: If i put the windows HD back in, it will simply boot Windows, as grub is not installed on the Windows HDD! I am having GRUB ONLY on the UBuntu HDD
[04:57] <dabaR> abes: abes and you restarted totem?
[04:57] <soundray> Celldweller: he needs to understand the problem first. At least superficially.
[04:57] <Celldweller> yea
[04:57] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, you can change the boot order
[04:57] <Celldweller> abes... w32 codecs?
[04:57] <Celldweller> and what app are you using
[04:57] <abes> Celldweller: Tried with MPlayer, Totem-xine, Gxine, Xine, Ogle, VLC, Totem, Totem-xine
[04:57] <Rprp> Hmm, how can i upgrade my openGL for my ATI Driver?
[04:57] <Rprp> I tried everything but still doesnt work L:/
[04:57] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: how?
[04:57] <protocol1> how can I clear my terminal history? command?
[04:57] <MaJoR42> Anyone got some expertise in troubleshooting video on laptop problems?
[04:57] <fnf> kenThomson3: Will you plug both HDDs and set it to boot on Ubuntu HDD ?
[04:57] <abes> Celldweller: w32 codecs here
[04:58] <soundray> paradizelost: that won't be enough for booting. All the root entries and fstab need to be changed as well.
[04:58] <der0b> major42: history -c
[04:58] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, but go in, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change every instance of (hd1,0) to (hd0,0)
[04:58] <kenThomson3> fnf: Exactly
[04:58] <paradizelost> ahh, yes soundray
[04:58] <Celldweller> and it wont do what... burn?
[04:58] <MaJoR42> history -c
[04:58] <eimajenthat> soundray: they're almost the same.   The working one says "search austin.rr.com," while the not so working one says "domain austin.rr.com"
[04:58] <Celldweller> play?
[04:58] <MaJoR42> ?
[04:58] <abes> Celldweller: Totem restarted...
[04:58] <abes> Celldweller: play...
[04:58] <abes> Celldweller: tried another DVD just in case...
[04:58] <fnf> kenThomson3: If you did that, great, a little modification of menu.lst would finish the story.
[04:58] <Celldweller> mplayer and totem you may as well knock off your list... i cant believe VLC doesnt work
[04:58] <soundray> eimajenthat: those entries aren't the important ones. "nameserver" ones are.
[04:58] <eimajenthat> soundray: and then both say "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[04:58] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, then, you need to edit /etc/fstab and change every instance of /dev/hdb# to /dev/hda#
[04:58] <der0b> sorry major42 that was supposed to be directed at protocol1
[04:58] <DevC> wtf? I'm following the 5.10 to 6.06 page for upgrading from Breezy to Dapper under "UPgrading with the update manager application"...I've updated everything on the computer and run the update manager again but it doesn't offer to upgrade to 6.06 like the upgrade page says...does that mean I'm not running 5.10 like I thought?
[04:58] <der0b> protocol1: history -c
[04:59] <gerson> mrson
[04:59] <protocol1> thx
[04:59] <gerson> ya me desocupe
[04:59] <paradizelost> DevC, it's gonna upgrade to edgy, 6.10
[04:59] <gerson> bueno si estas ahi ahi te va la configuracion
[04:59] <paradizelost> !es
[04:59] <eimajenthat> soundray: both are the same
[04:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:59] <sal> Hey! I was wondering if someone could help me get my tascum US122 running, I followed a tutorial to get the drivers installed and now the lights come on and everything, but I'm not sure how to select it as my device I use for recording?
[04:59] <soundray> eimajenthat: okay...
[04:59] <Celldweller> it will upgrade to edgy over a LONG period of time
[04:59] <abes> Celldweller: VLC does work... but doesnt play DVDs
[04:59] <poolkey172> fnf : lets se if this junk works
[05:00] <Celldweller> doesnt play dvd's...
[05:00] <Celldweller> does it give you an error?
[05:00] <eimajenthat> soundray: pointing at my router, which is odd, because I didn't think it could be a dns server
[05:00] <fnf> poolkey172: Alright :)
[05:00] <dabaR> DevC: cat /etc/issue
[05:00] <paradizelost> eimajenthat, is it a linksys?
[05:00] <abes> Celldweller: just doesnt seem to do anything when i want to play a DVD
[05:00] <soundray> eimajenthat: it probably is a DNS forwarder
[05:00] <poolkey172> fnf : cool loading stage2
[05:00] <DevC> paradizelost: according to what I've read it only updates by 5.04 -> 5.10 -> 6.06 -> 6.10 and I'm at the middle
[05:00] <paradizelost> eimajenthat, a lot of the routers will forward dns
[05:00] <MaJoR42> Where's the best place to solve xvid problems? I've been through most of the stuff I could find in forums, but I can't get the settings to stick.
[05:00] <eimajenthat> paradizelost: no, Buffalo
[05:00] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: Celldweller: fnf: sod75: People editing all these files seems to tricky for me. I wish to re-install everything. Here is how i want it. hd0 (Ubuntu, with GRUB on hd0 Only), hd1 (Windows, with NO GRUB ON HD1). SO than can someone tell me a newbie-friendly 'correct' way of installing Ubuntu for such a requirement?
[05:00] <Celldweller> in your VLC preferences
[05:01] <Celldweller> read them of to me
[05:01] <gerson> mrson ya
[05:01] <Rprp> Hi, how can i make '.deb' file?
[05:01] <Rprp> s
[05:01] <DevC> dabaR: cat /etc/issue -> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[05:01] <sod75> kenThomson3: the just boot from the cd and do so
[05:01] <Vigor> sal: Did you try the Device Manager use (this) as default? or is it listed?
[05:01] <dabaR> Rprp: out of what?
[05:01] <abes> Celldweller: all of them? or any particular "tab"?
[05:01] <fatbrain> What player shoudl I use when I want to play .rm videos?
[05:01] <sod75> kenThomson3: just don't wtart changeing hd's after
[05:01] <kenThomson3> SO that after installing everything GRUB comes up on booting asking me to select any OS, and if i remove the Ubuntu HDD, THAN THE WIndows one, boots like nothing ever happened
[05:01] <soundray> kenThomson3: that setup is too complex for a newbie to do without unexpected side effects.
[05:01] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, hookk the drives up how you want them, then install ubuntu on the first hard drive, with windows currently installed on the second hard drive
[05:01] <Celldweller> second tab i think
[05:01] <paradizelost> and it will magically work
[05:01] <dabaR> DevC: and cat /etc/apt/sources.list shows dapper in all lines?
[05:01] <sal> vigor: hold on let me look in the device manager
[05:01] <gerson> Mrson already
[05:01] <Celldweller> no
[05:01] <fnf> kenThomson3: If you don't feel comfortable with GRUB, you may reboot to Ubuntu then do a 'grub-update', that'll do it.
[05:02] <paradizelost> but please, do NOT change drives around AFTER you have stuff installed
[05:02] <nosbig> fatbrain, mplayer...
[05:02] <Celldweller> input and codecs
[05:02] <abes> Celldweller:  "Video" or "Input / Codecs"
[05:02] <soundray> kenThomson3: I say, leave ubuntu on hd1, leave windows on hd0, and put grub on hd0 to boot both. That's a newbie friendly setup.
[05:02] <abes> Celldweller: ?
[05:02] <Celldweller> i said it... input and codecs
[05:02] <DevC> hold on I'll check and pastebin it through Winxp
[05:02] <kitsuneofdoom> I have a separate home partition. The /home partition appears as about 11G filled, but when I use filelight, it will only show about 6.5 GB. My personal folder appears as 9 GB.
[05:02] <paradizelost> soundray, or windows on hd1, ubuntu on hd0, and grub on hd0
[05:02] <kenThomson3> soundray: i have already messed windows once, i simply dont wish to touch that HDD
[05:02] <PlanarPlatypus|w> hi, does anyone know a way to find out the size of a given partition without using sudo?
[05:02] <poolkey172> fnf : error 17 : cannot mount selected partion
[05:02] <abes> Celldweller: Theora, x264, Fake
[05:02] <eimajenthat> soundray: maybe it's not forwarding the other machines dns requests properly for some reason, can't think why
[05:02] <nosbig> kenThomson3, Windows doe snot like having it's drive assignment changed from underneath it.
[05:03] <soundray> paradizelost: no, Windows on hd1 will have side effects that will drive him back here in no time.
[05:03] <dabaR> PlanarPlatypus|w: df -h
[05:03] <fnf> poolkey172: Do you see the menu ?
[05:03] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: Do you mean i set Ubuntu's drive as master, and the Windows one as slave, and then install Ubuntu?
[05:03] <poolkey172> yeh
[05:03] <poolkey172> fnf : yeh everything is here
[05:03] <soundray> eimajenthat: it's strange that it does it for some, but not others, though.
[05:03] <paradizelost> soundray, no, usually works fine for me
[05:03] <abes> Celldweller: Thats all that i have under that list
[05:03] <Celldweller> what's the path of your devices
[05:03] <sal> vigor: it is listed in the device manager, but I'm not sure how to set it as default? also it doesn't show up (properly) in gnome alsa mixer it just shows up as "usb mixer" with one mic port but it has more than that
[05:03] <PlanarPlatypus|w> dabaR, thanks
[05:03] <Rprp> dabaR: i just downloaded limewire. and did alien Limewire*
[05:03] <Rprp> But it created a .db file
[05:03] <Rprp> .dev*
[05:03] <nosbig> Install Windows on the first (master) drive, and Linux on the second one...  Otherwise, you'll have to play some interesting tricks with Grub...
[05:03] <kenThomson3> Does Ubuntu go in the master drive or the slave one?
[05:04] <abes> Celldweller: In VLC or in the system?
[05:04] <kenThomson3> I Dont wish to install GRUB on the windows HDD.
[05:04] <Celldweller> VLC
[05:04] <fnf> poolkey172: Will you post the two relevant lines (press 'e' on the target option): kernel, root and initrd
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> does naim let you set away messages?
[05:04] <kenThomson3> please tell me in some simple language
[05:04] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, why don't you want to install grub on the windows drive?
[05:04] <paradizelost> because it will work perfectly
[05:04] <eimajenthat> soundray, glad I'm not the only one who thinks so
[05:04] <abes> Celldweller: Hmmm... there is no path to DVD device....
[05:04] <poolkey172> fnf : I am looking at those already and they are fine
[05:04] <nosbig> kenThomson3, Ubuntu on slave; Windows on Master...  Use a boot disk, if you have to...
[05:04] <Celldweller> well there ya go
[05:04] <Celldweller> you are missing a device
[05:04] <abes> Celldweller: But there is one to VCD whic is the same as the DVD one should be
[05:04] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: becuase i already messed one Windows HDD, i simply wish to leave it alone
[05:05] <Celldweller> ok
[05:05] <poolkey172> fnf : kernel : /boot/vmlinuz......... root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet etc perfect
[05:05] <chandu> cappicard, hiii
[05:05] <Celldweller> copy that same thing
[05:05] <soundray> kenThomson3: then find a guide for setting the Windows boot loader to boot Linux.
[05:05] <Celldweller> to the DVD path
[05:05] <kitsuneofdoom> I have a separate home partition. The /home partition appears as about 11G filled, but when I use filelight, it will only show about 6.5 GB. My personal folder appears as 9 GB. My personal folder is the bulk of the /home folder. There is discrepancy here
[05:05] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, then add a 3rd drive
[05:05] <Celldweller> save settings nd try that
[05:05] <dabaR> Rprp: Rprp get this file, and unpack it http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[05:05] <fnf> poolkey172: How about 'root' ?
[05:05] <poolkey172> fnf : initrd /boot/initd.img-2.6.17-10-generic
[05:05] <chandu> what should i do to play rm format
[05:05] <kenThomson3> nosbig: paradizelost: THat's what i had done, Windows as master, Ubuntu as slave, but as GRUB was present on Ubuntu's drive. So the machine simply booted Windows as if no Ubuntu was present.
[05:05] <nosbig> chandu, http://mplayerhq.hu
[05:05] <paradizelost> kitsuneofdoom, maybe one of your programs don't check .paths
[05:05] <Rprp> dabaR: I already have the .dev file of it.
[05:05] <dabaR> !realplayer > chandu
[05:05] <soundray> eimajenthat: sorry, I've no ideas for troubleshooting that problem...
[05:05] <poolkey172> fnf : root I am not sure about ! it says hd0,0
[05:05] <Rprp> But dont know how to make it ;?
[05:06] <poolkey172> fnf : root I am not sure about ! it says hd0,0 which I think is wrong
[05:06] <abes> Celldweller: well the disc started spinning and PLAY button on VLC turned into PAUSE, but there is no vid/aud output whatsoever
[05:06] <Celldweller> Hd0 is the windows partition if its dual boot
[05:06] <poolkey172> fnf : should it not be something like hd1,0 ?
[05:06] <fnf> poolkey172: If only mine has a floppy driver, sorry, give me a minute to find the possible cause for this.
[05:06] <kenThomson3> I am still confused! Can someone please sort all the advice, and tell it to me in utter simplicity?
[05:06] <eimajenthat> soundray: I was thinking of flashing it to dd-wrt for other reasons, seems like a decent chance that would fix this as well, no?
[05:06] <abes> Celldweller: What about "input repetitions" should i change that?
[05:06] <dabaR> Rprp: you mean install it. I know how, but I recommned the other way that I told you about.
[05:06] <soundray> Celldweller: hd0 is never a partition.
[05:07] <poolkey172> fnf : thanks
[05:07] <Celldweller> er hd1
[05:07] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, if you don't have grub on the MBR on the windows drive, when it's the first drive, it will NEVER see that ubuntu is there
[05:07] <eimajenthat> soundray: I know it's kind of a sledgehammer approach, but if it would work
[05:07] <Celldweller> go to stream output
[05:07] <Celldweller> inthe settings
[05:07] <Celldweller> in VLC
[05:07] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: I know that. and i am asking for a solution for such a situation!
[05:07] <dabaR> kenThomson3: when the computer boots, it looks for a boot loader in the master boot record of the first hard drive, the master. If one is found, any other bootloaders on other drives are ignored.
[05:07] <chandu> dabaR, iam new to linux
[05:08] <soundray> eimajenthat: if the problem is even in the router, yes. OTOH, flashing the firmware won't reset your nvram, and resetting nvram isn't recommended anyway...
[05:08] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, the solution is to have grub on the windows drive
[05:08] <abes> Celldweller: Ok... and?
[05:08] <sod75> kenThomson3: or to use a boot floppy
[05:08] <soundray> eimajenthat: I'm slightly partial to OpenWrt btw.
[05:08] <dabaR> kenThomson3: well, just fixgrubafterinstallingwindows.
[05:08] <chandu> what i need to do to paly this rm format in linux
[05:08] <dneary> Hi
[05:08] <Celldweller> click them all but the top one
[05:08] <dabaR> grub > kenThomson3
[05:08] <Celldweller> make sure they are all checked except the first one
[05:08] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: please please tell me any other solution, than putting grub on windows hdd
[05:08] <soundray> Celldweller: hd1 is never a partition either.
[05:08] <poolkey172> fnf : how do I see all the hd mappings in grub console
[05:08] <kenThomson3> sod75: You want me to use a floppy :(
[05:08] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, have a 3rd drive that u use to boot
[05:08] <rasputnik> is it normal not to be able to umount /var in  Edgy single user?
[05:09] <abes> Celldweller: The one under "File"? There is a lot of subcategories there
[05:09] <paradizelost> be it a floppy, hard drive, usb drive, etc...
[05:09] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: you mean a third HDD?
[05:09] <kenThomson3> ok
[05:09] <sod75> kenThomson3: then it's not on your hd0 :)
[05:09] <paradizelost> yes
[05:09] <dneary> I'm looking for some detailed docs on managing translations on rosetta - any idea where I can get some?
[05:09] <Celldweller> no
[05:09] <Celldweller> settings
[05:09] <paradizelost> and it HAS to be the first drive
[05:09] <Celldweller> preferences
[05:09] <fnf> poolkey172: It's a bit off my knowledge, I haven't really played that much with GRUB.
[05:09] <eimajenthat> soundray, I looked at it, but it seemed the web interface was a separate component, and it wasn't too obvious (at least to me) how to get and install that component
[05:09] <dabaR> chandu: look at your private messages, and follow the guide in the first link.
[05:09] <paradizelost> eimajenthat, i use DD-WRT
[05:09] <M3G4crux> hi
[05:09] <sal> can anyone help me get my US122 USB audio/midi interface working?
[05:09] <abes> Celldweller: Then "Stream output" and check stuff under "Access output"???
[05:10] <kenThomson3> How about this: I put a blank drive as master, and windows one as slave. I boot from the liveCD, and install ubuntu on the blank HDD. Than i install GRUB ON ubuntu's HDD. On rebooting will everything work?
[05:10] <soundray> eimajenthat: not any more, if you get white russian rc6 or so, the web interface comes with it.
[05:10] <M3G4crux> has anyone experienced problems with fonts, character encodings, etc after upgrading to Edgy
[05:10] <Celldweller> yes
[05:10] <poolkey172> Anyone know if I can make a lilo boot floopy instead then ?
[05:10] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, the windows drive won't like that setup
[05:10] <sod75> kenThomson3: not sure windows will like being moved
[05:10] <Celldweller> it knows your dvd rom/cd drive is there... it's a configuration problem or a configure problem
[05:11] <soundray> M3G4crux: yes. Font problems went away with a fresh install, character encoding is a new problem that came with the fresh install and I haven't solved it yet.
[05:11] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: sod75: than please suggest what should i do, if i dont want GRUB on the MBR of windows HDD.
[05:11] <Daviey> Has anybody here tried fiesty out?
[05:11] <dabaR> Daviey: ask on #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, the easiest way, 2 drives, install windows on first drive, then load ubuntu on the 2nd drive, and let it do it's autmatic thing
[05:11] <rasputnik> kenThomson3: I'd try that - its' easily reversible and it might well work
[05:11] <soundray> kenThomson3: you are making your life exceedingly difficult because of an irrational fear of messing something up.
[05:12] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, i agree with soundray
[05:12] <poolkey172> kenthomson3 have u read the linunx , winnt boot loader howto ? u can do it that was
[05:12] <Daviey> dabaR, i'm gonna guess *everybody* in there has tried it out! ;)
[05:12] <poolkey172> kenthomson3 have u read the linunx , winnt boot loader howto ? u can do it that way
[05:12] <paradizelost> i've done the dualboot setup literally hundreds of times
[05:12] <rasputnik> why does Edgy not let me umount /var in single user?
[05:12] <Celldweller> just make sure that everything is set to default.. for names
[05:12] <dm__> Important question for yall, Is there anyway for the system to automatically restart a daemon if it closes?
[05:12] <Vigor> sal: Did you run the lspci -n ?
[05:12] <Celldweller> like the output module
[05:12] <kenThomson3> poolkey172: link please?
[05:12] <paradizelost> poolkey172, *SHUDDER*
[05:12] <Celldweller> then try it and let meknow
[05:12] <paradizelost> you really want him messing with dd?\
[05:12] <poolkey172> paradizelost : why ? its quick n easy
[05:13] <Celldweller> dont use up yourdvd's up lol
[05:13] <rasputnik> dm__: yes, you can respawn it from /etc/inittab
[05:13] <kenThomson3> paradizelost: soundray: I am asking for solution which DONT involve touching windows MBR
[05:13] <kenThomson3> BECUASE one i already messed the whole thing
[05:13] <soundray> kenThomson3: yep, that's your irrational fear.
[05:13] <dm__> rasputnik so lets say it crashes, with the sytem start it up again
[05:13] <Celldweller> there probably isnt an ption for that kenThompson3
[05:13] <kenThomson3> it may be, but that has got to be a workaround
[05:13] <paradizelost> kenThomson3, if by messing it up by moving drives around, don't do that
[05:13] <rasputnik> dm__: yes, that's what respawn means.
[05:14] <dm__> rasputnik is that a txt file?
[05:14] <rasputnik> dm__: yes
[05:14] <soundray> kenThomson3: any workaround is more difficult and more likely to result in further messups than just overcoming that fear.
[05:14] <poolkey172> kenthomson3 I did this like 5 years ago g00gle it up mate
[05:14] <Vigor> sal: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/
[05:14] <dm__> rasputnik doesnt exist, so i can make one safely ?
[05:14] <Celldweller> google away
[05:14] <Celldweller> and spend 50 hours on forums
[05:14] <rasputnik> dm__: /etc/inittab doesn't exist??
[05:14] <Celldweller> you're bonkerz
[05:14] <kenThomson3> OK bye, i leave more uninformed than i came here. :)
[05:14] <soundray> kenThomson3: so anyone who will help you with that workaround will not really help you in the end.
[05:14] <kenThomson3> Thanks anyways
[05:15] <dm__> rasputnik nope
[05:15] <kenThomson3> Good night!
[05:15] <Celldweller> sorry
[05:15] <paradizelost> grr
[05:15] <poolkey172> kenthomson3 soundray is right
[05:15] <Celldweller> oops
[05:15] <poolkey172> soundray : Any chance u can help me mate ?
[05:16] <Vigor> sal: did or have you used the Debian pastebin checker?
[05:16] <rasputnik> dm__: oh doesn't Edgy use upstart, not init? You'll have to check the docs for that then.
[05:16] <mike1o> anybody here use dosemu?
[05:16] <soundray> poolkey172: I'll have a go. AFAI understand it, you want to boot your system from a floppy, correct?
[05:16] <Vigor> sal: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[05:16] <Celldweller> lol
[05:16] <dm__> rasputnik eek
[05:16] <poolkey172> soundray : Yeh I managed to create the floppy by copying over the stages and all looks good
[05:17] <bumpo> you can't help some people...
[05:17] <soundray> poolkey172: all right. What's the snag now?
[05:17] <Celldweller> my psychiatrist says im hopeless lol
[05:17] <paradizelost> agreed bumpo
[05:17] <dm__> rasputnik no man for it
[05:17] <bumpo> just let it go, you guys did fine
[05:17] <soundray> Celldweller: I could have told you that for free ;)
[05:17] <poolkey172> soundray : Problem is that it cant find the disk : I have changed root from hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) evc etce to no vain
[05:17] <Celldweller> soundray,  lol
[05:18] <poolkey172> soundray : Is there a way to see the hd-> /dev/hd mappings ?
[05:18] <grirgz> poolkey172: salut ca va ?
[05:18] <soundray> poolkey172: is that in the grub commandline when booted off the floppy?
[05:18] <poolkey172> soundray : correct
[05:19] <paradizelost> fr
[05:19] <paradizelost> !fr
[05:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:19] <dabaR> poolkey172: you can calculate them easily, hda1 is hd(0,0), hda2 hd(0,1) hdb1 is hd(1,0) and so on
[05:19] <dm__> rasputnik there any easier way to do this ? i just want the damn program to respawn if it crashes
[05:19] <poolkey172> grirgz : Soz dont know
[05:19] <soundray> poolkey172: does geometry (hd0) help at all?
[05:19] <dm__> rasputnik its just a command "nostromo_daemon"
[05:19] <soundray> dabaR: it's not always that easy, the problem is more deep-seated here.
[05:19] <poolkey172> soundray : what do u mean by geometry ?
[05:19] <paradizelost> dabaR, not necessarily
[05:19] <soundray> poolkey172: the grub command
[05:20] <poolkey172> soundray : ok I'll try it now
[05:20] <poolkey172> soundray : brb
[05:20] <soundray> poolkey172: try 'help geometry' and 'geometry (hd0)
[05:20] <soundray> '
[05:20] <paradizelost> dabaR, things get messy when the boot drive isn't the linux drive, i.e. if you are using a USB drive
[05:21] <rasputnik> dm__: inittab is how you normally do it - ubuntu changed stuff in edgy, so you'll have to find another way
[05:21] <soundray> poolkey172: how are your drives connected? Type of controller?
[05:22] <Celldweller> soundray,  u know how to set raid 5 in ubuntu
[05:22] <soundray> Guys, do you know of a way to calculate the age difference between a pair of files based on the mtime stamp?
[05:22] <Celldweller> i tried but to no avail
[05:22] <soundray> Celldweller: I know enough not to try ;)
[05:22] <Vigor> I gotta jet out yall, temp is 103 now...:-/
[05:22] <Celldweller> roflol
[05:23] <dm__> rasputnik damn,
[05:23] <Celldweller> it worked with MCNlive after install
[05:23] <Celldweller> but not ubuntu
[05:23] <Celldweller> weird
[05:25] <poolkey172> soundray : pants : My disk is not here :(
[05:25] <cute_killer> hello
[05:25] <cute_killer> any body there?
[05:25] <Celldweller> lol lost drive
[05:25] <soundray> poolkey172: how are your drives connected? Type of controller?
[05:25] <Celldweller> that sounds like a good movie
[05:26] <poolkey172> soundray : ide0 : cdrom : ide1 ubuntu install : Via RAID (2 disks)  Sil RAID (2 disks)
[05:26] <Rprp> Eat
[05:26] <Celldweller> lol Raid seems to be a popular mess up
[05:27] <Joakim> hi
[05:27] <M3G4crux> soundray, I have not done a fresh install
[05:27] <M3G4crux> only a fresh update from Dapper
[05:27] <poolkey172> lol@cellweller true true
[05:27] <soundray> M3G4crux: I've tried both
[05:27] <Joakim> Get:51 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources [55.3kB]
[05:27] <Joakim> 99% [51 Sources gzip 0]                                               8001B/s 5s
[05:27] <Joakim> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[05:27] <Joakim> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources
[05:27] <Joakim>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:27] <Joakim> Fetched 6190kB in 12m2s (8571B/s)
[05:27] <Joakim> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:27] <Joakim> Reading package lists... Done
[05:27] <Joakim> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:27] <M3G4crux> any idea how to fix this?
[05:27] <Celldweller> go toanother mirror
[05:28] <Celldweller> not you M3G4crux
[05:28] <apokryphos> great... at the end :/
[05:28] <Celldweller> lol
[05:28] <nosbig> Celldweller, are you using a hardwaer RAID controller or trying to use the software RAID?
[05:28] <M3G4crux> ok Celldweller thanks for letting me stay here :o
[05:28] <M3G4crux> ;)
[05:28] <ScreaminIke> i have a Belking 802.11g Wireless Desktop Network Card (F5D7000). though the wiki says it works "out of the box"... it doesn't. i've installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome, but certain features seem totally unaccessable, including scanning for networks, and connecting to even unencrypted networks. can i get some help?
[05:28] <apokryphos> !pastebin | Joakim
[05:28] <ubotu> Joakim: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:28] <dmnd> Joakim: try a mirror or something?
[05:28] <Celldweller> i have no control over if u stay here or not
[05:29] <Joakim> i know that
[05:29] <Celldweller> and i was useing software raid
[05:29] <M3G4crux> you never know, I might only real in your mind
[05:29] <Celldweller> from Bios
[05:29] <Joakim> used pastebin alotta times
[05:29] <soundray> M3G4crux: for the font problem, create a new user and see if it occurs with that.
[05:29] <M3G4crux> ok soundray
[05:29] <M3G4crux> I check that straight away
[05:29] <nosbig> From BIOS....  OK  Hardware RAID on the motherboard...
[05:29] <Celldweller> ok yea
[05:29] <Morrissey> What is v4l? In xorg module? Video for linux? when should I enable that?
[05:30] <Celldweller> technically lol
[05:30] <Celldweller> but yes
[05:30] <nosbig> Once you create your array in the BIOS configuration, Ubuntu (or any Linux distro, for that matter) should see the drives as a single unit...
[05:30] <poolkey172> morrossey : video for linux
[05:30] <soundray> poolkey172: sorry, I don't know enough about RAID to effectively help you booting from one...
[05:30] <M3G4crux> in fact you might be the only one reading me, I think you are not even awake
[05:30] <dm__> rasputnik lol they always have to put the documentation in terms i cant understand ( because im not an expert or advanced linux user )
[05:30] <poolkey172> soundray : nice try I aint letting u escape just yet
[05:30] <Celldweller> soundray,  its ok.. i dont need ro Raid them... i just wanted to  play around with it
[05:30] <poolkey172> soundray : lol dont worry about it :)
[05:30] <nosbig> You can host the boot as part of the array, in this case.
[05:31] <nosbig> If you wish to use Linux's software RAID, you will have to put a boot partition on another drive...
[05:31] <Joakim> i can use the standard repositories
[05:31] <Celldweller> I was just seeing if it would work on RAID 5
[05:32] <nosbig> And no matter what you do with RAID, I highly recommend using Logical Volumes...
[05:32] <poolkey172> soundray : thanks for trying anyway : I am going and disabling raid in the BIOS and going for a fresh install and try to install grub on the boot record for the standalone disk on the IDE port
[05:32] <dcordes>  send #75
[05:32] <Celldweller> it apparently does when its configured right
[05:32] <nosbig> Celldweller, sure it will...
[05:32] <Celldweller> MCN live worked when i finished the install
[05:32] <dcordes> oh sorry i was about to leech some file on another channel d'oh
[05:32] <Celldweller> but that was quickly riped back off... dont like it
[05:33] <Celldweller> i had high expectations of Fedora 6, but that gave me nothing but problems
[05:33] <poolkey172> nosbig : I got my pseudo software RAID recognised with the /dev/mapper and it's giving me 95Meg a second thats something I dont want to let up.....   If you have it recognized, you are probably in good shape...
[05:35] <Celldweller> thats the only german phrase i know
[05:36] <DevC> dabaR: went back and checked a few things...for some reason they all went back to hoary instead of breezy which is why it is ignoring the upgrades.....I'll edit them accordingly
[05:36] <nosbig> I use Grip.
[05:36] <poolkey172> nosbig : I just want to make sure
[05:36] <soundray> Celldweller: find the person who told you that was German and give her a good smack.
[05:36] <reus> my amarok says no alsa no dcopserver
[05:36] <MTecknology> can i get somebody to take a guess at what's wrong with my video? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34371/
[05:36] <reus> and cant acces amarokrc
[05:36] <Celldweller> roflol
[05:36] <Celldweller> i may have not been saying it properly... but it is supposed to mean you are an a$$ kisser
[05:36] <reus> kiss kiss
[05:37] <Celldweller> lol
[05:37] <reus> cell dweller its true tho
[05:37] <reus> that aint german at all
[05:37] <Celldweller> im not debating with you
[05:37] <Celldweller> lol
[05:38] <reus> kiss kiss
[05:38] <Celldweller> but i know there was a little hint of it in t here somewhere im sure..
[05:38] <Celldweller> reus,  check the configurations  for it
[05:38] <reus> anyway somebody care to help me on alsa dcopserver and amarokrc
[05:39] <reus> it cant read or write it :$
[05:39] <Celldweller> urrrg
[05:39] <Celldweller> what error do you get again
[05:39] <icheyne> thanks nosbig
[05:40] <reus> dcopserver sockets not found or something
[05:40] <reus> file:/// inaccessible
[05:40] <reus> erm
[05:40] <reus> amarok alsa not found
[05:40] <reus> thats about it
[05:41] <Celldweller> jeez
[05:41] <Celldweller> i dont really know
[05:41] <DevC> what do I change the CD binary to for breezy?
[05:41] <Celldweller> not my area
[05:41] <reus> :$
[05:41] <Jeej> can anyone help me with updating ubuntu from warty to edgy?
[05:41] <reus> it started with installin vmware server
[05:41] <jbroome> !update
[05:41] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:41] <reus> witch still dont work
[05:41] <defrysk> Jeej, thats virtually impossible
[05:41] <soundray> DevC: the CD binary? Not clear what you mean.
[05:42] <Celldweller> path to the server is correct?
[05:42] <soundray> Jeej: sure. Backup your data files and do a fresh install from an edgy desktop CD.
[05:42] <Celldweller> im confused.. i think i had better sit this one out
[05:42] <Jeej> Why cann't i just update?
[05:42] <Celldweller> too far back i believe Jeej
[05:42] <soundray> Jeej: because there were three releases since warty.
[05:43] <Celldweller> lol
[05:43] <DevC> in the repositories the top option says CD 5.04 Hoary and I need to change it to 5.10 for updates
[05:43] <Jeej> so it isn't supported any more?
[05:43] <defrysk> Jeej, make a backup and do a fresh install is my advise
[05:43] <soundray> DevC: aren't you doing your upgrade via the internet?
[05:43] <Celldweller> DevC
[05:43] <AsheD> are there any linux mp3 taggers that support ALL of the different id3v2 modes?
[05:43] <Celldweller> yea
[05:43] <soundray> Jeej: no, not really
[05:43] <Celldweller> nm soundray can multitask
[05:43] <defrysk> !backup > Jeej