[16:18] <daftykins> tranjeeshan: i would never have that much open, and i am fine with task switching so that would be unnnecessary
[16:18] <ServerSage> Hey folks, we have a 12.04.4 LTS server.  ps aux is hanging, top hangs, w hangs, and stopping services (like apache) hang.  But, I can do other things like ls, cp, and even mount it over NFS.  Any ideas?
[16:19] <daftykins> ServerSage: that's slightly out of date if that version # is accurate. sounds like it's resource constrained possibly
[16:20] <Sez> tranjeeshan: pipe lsof for example
[16:20] <tranjeeshan> Switching works fine with 3/5 number of files. For 10/15, it would be time consuming
[16:21] <tranjeeshan> @Sez, any DE suggestions?
[16:21] <tranjeeshan> Terminal would be time consuming in this case
[16:22] <ServerSage> daftykins: Version number is correct, it's an LTS release, and gets security updates.  This started out of the blue.  It's not swapping (only 21mb of 3GB swap used).  Has about 300mb of memory free.  Nothing is in state D.
[16:22] <SchrodingersScat> tranjeeshan: only as you work out the function the first time
[16:22] <Sez> tranjeeshan: dunno depends on the DE i guess?
[16:22] <Roidan> ServerSage: how is disk space? (df -h)
[16:23] <Sez> and if so why bother overhead anyways and do not taskswitch? *eg*
[16:23] <daftykins> ServerSage: then it's out of date, 12.04.5 is current
[16:23] <tranjeeshan> @Sez, I mean a GUI based DE instead of using terminal would be better
[16:23] <ServerSage> Roidan: the / partition has 5.5G remaining.
[16:23] <Sez> i got your question you got my answer?
[16:23] <tranjeeshan> yeap
[16:23] <tranjeeshan> *yep
[16:24] <ServerSage> daftykins: Ok...
[16:25] <Roidan> Serano: do you have any sub-mounts for other paths, or is it all under / ?
[16:25] <ServerSage> daftykins: After 300+ days of uptime I kind of doubt the server is upset about being a minor revision out of date.  :)
[16:25] <UseTh3S0urce> Ughh Wubi you already have a good ISO quit trying to download a new one
[16:25] <daftykins> ServerSage: that's not my point, my point is your install isn't up to date
[16:25] <daftykins> UseTh3S0urce: we don't support WUBI by the way, i would seriously advise against using it.
[16:26] <ServerSage> daftykins: Ok, noted.  :)
[16:26] <daftykins> ServerSage: backup and dist-upgrade it
[16:26] <UseTh3S0urce> Why would you not support Wubi? Page says it is still supported just not windows 8
[16:26] <daftykins> it's an absolute abomination
[16:26] <UseTh3S0urce> It still ships with every ISO for a reason
[16:27] <daftykins> it's a seriously bad idea.
[16:27] <UseTh3S0urce> Because the devs still develop it, so don't se why it would not be supported here
[16:27] <UseTh3S0urce> If I had any other means of installation I would
[16:27] <ServerSage> daftykins: That is seriously the most useless suggestion.  Clearly you don't work in industry.
[16:27] <ServerSage> daftykins: You can't just pull servers out of production in the middle of a work day to dist-ugprade.
[16:28] <UseTh3S0urce> I used to use my Galaxy s4 and DriveDroid to install Linux distros
[16:28] <daftykins> ServerSage: sure i do, but i can't read your mind as to what scenario this system is in :)
[16:28] <UseTh3S0urce> But I have an S5 now, and it doesnt work
[16:30] <UseTh3S0urce> 10-17 09:24 ERROR  CommonBackend: The md5 of the metalink does match
[16:30] <dbugger> Hi guys. When I try to shutdown, the systems gets stuck on this message: "unregistered_netdevice: waiting for vboxnet2 to become free. Usage count = 1". I have to halt manually the vagrant boxes if I want to shutdown successfully. Is there any way to fix this?
[16:30] <UseTh3S0urce> Thats what wubi says
[16:30] <UseTh3S0urce> Even though the md5 hashes fine
[16:30] <akhil> can we use multiple xchat at same time
[16:30] <EriC^^> akhil: yes
[16:30] <PhoenixSTF> hello guys, I am having an issue with my USB3 hdd dock, it will mount and detect HDD on startup but not plug and play, I get a usb6-1:Device not responding to set address, device not responding address 19, error -71, This only happens in USB3, USB2 is working plug and play, system is 14.04 amd64 updated today
[16:31] <akhil> eric how
[16:31] <EriC^^> akhil: click on the icon on the top right corner
[16:31] <Sez> dbugger: append shutdown script or force shutdown, for example
[16:32] <k1l_> UseTh3S0urce: wubi is very hard to support. if it works: fine (even if a native install would be better) but if it doesnt work, there is just very little we can do about it
[16:32] <dbugger> Sez: sorry, what? I did not understand what you tried to tell me
[16:35] <UseTh3S0urce> k1l_: Thats okay google is helping there is an option to skip md5 check
[16:35] <Sez> dbugger: look up shutdown process + ubuntu and try to add your missing link, turning off vbox networking...
[16:35] <UseTh3S0urce> And it is installing, finaly, yey.
[16:36] <UseTh3S0urce> Finaly.
[16:36] <OerHeks> wrong MD5, i would not proceed
[16:36] <UseTh3S0urce> Now I can actually use this crappy Alptop and not on this clogged up broken Vista install
[16:36] <UseTh3S0urce> My girl doesnt want me to fix it
[16:36] <UseTh3S0urce> Or upgrade it
[16:37] <UseTh3S0urce> And I just wanted Linux, but no CD/DVD/USB
[16:37] <UseTh3S0urce> No way to run a PXE server
[16:37] <UseTh3S0urce> SO, yes I have to use wubi, I know everyone hates Wubi.
[16:37] <OerHeks> great, wubi on a broken vista install
[16:38] <Sez> .oO(hate cryptic leet nicknames ever more;)
[16:38] <DJones> UseTh3S0urce: Wubi is hated, but its still included, but not many people are willing to support it
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> UseTh3S0urce  wubi = will ultimately be inefficient
[16:47] <teaearlgray> I'm currently running Python 3.4.0. I have a dependancy that claims to only work with up to 3.3. How do I switch my 3.X version?
[16:47] <teaearlgray> I think I have 3.3 installed already somewhere
[16:54] <gordon> Hello
[16:55] <YokoBR> hi guys... English is not my native language... I'm trying to search on the internet for a php system that could handle something like a bank line, when each client get a number, and the screen shows who's next.
[16:56] <YokoBR> i know this has nothing with ubuntu, but it's just a quick tip, if you guys could help me. I don't know the therms to search for it
[16:56] <markand> hi guys
[16:56] <markand> sometimes when I log on my altgr key is understood as super...
[16:56] <markand> I need to click on the keyboard layout again to make it act as alt gr again
[16:56] <markand> does anyone already have that issue ?
[16:57] <alexgl> i am setting up drbl clonezilla on a brand new virtual machine of 14.04 lts server edition and i used the software center to get it, where would it be located now?
[16:58] <rwp> markand, I use "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us -option compose:menu" in my .xsession when I log in. You could explore doing similar with your gr options.
[17:02] <markand> rwp, it's random
[17:02] <markand> it does not happen all the time
[17:03] <markand> the .xsession is always read even with lightdm?
[17:03] <rwp> That is strange that it would be intermittent. Should be always or never. So strange if it is something different.
[17:04] <rwp> The .xsession is part of the Xsession startup used by all of the graphical login managers.
[17:04] <rwp> But perhaps I should not have mentioned it since it is a longer topic of discussion to understand how to insert things there.
[17:04] <Sez> see that is your problem depending on DE keyboard device could be reinitialised otherwise though
[17:04] <rwp> Perhaps .xsessionrc instead is better?
[17:08] <ceibal> hola
[17:08] <ceibal> vfuihvj
[17:09] <kaligne> Hi  I created a "Linux filesystem" with gdisk. gparted clearly shows the filesystem is "ext2". Then I used "mkfs.vfat -F 32" on that partition. gparted shows it is now a fat32 file system. However if I check with gdisk, it still tells me it is a Linux filesystem. Isn't it contradictory?
[17:11] <genii> kaligne: gdisk looks at the partition type.
[17:12] <diffis> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 with Unity. I'd like to see the contents of /home/<my_username>/Desktop folder on my desktop. But how to do that?
[17:12] <obounaim> how download a .deb from debian or ubuntu
[17:12] <SchrodingersScat> !apt | obounaim
[17:13] <rwp> diffis, Me? I would type in "ls ~/Desktop". You? You didn't give enough context.
[17:14] <diffis> rwp:  On the desktop, not terminal.
[17:14] <OerHeks> diffis, open nautilus, it will show you
[17:14] <rwp> Which desktop? Implies graphical file manager. Which graphical file manager?
[17:16] <kaligne> diffis : "ls /home/<user_name>/Desktop". Or open nautilus file managment
[17:16] <diffis> Err... How I'd explain this...? I'd like to see them as icons or what ever on screen. Like there was possible to add files on desktop on Windows. But is that possible?
[17:16] <obounaim> SchrodingersScat, I am look for a tool to download the .deb form the specified version (sid, utopic, ...) not to install the package. Thanks!
[17:17] <diffis> I know the nautilus, but it is not the thing I'm looking for now..
[17:17] <MMukherjee> What is the pkg. name for Open-JDK
[17:17] <MMukherjee> ?
[17:17] <wizbit> how can i put xbmc 13.2 stable on trusty?
[17:17] <OerHeks> MMukherjee, easy to find in softwarecenter
[17:18] <federico> hi
[17:18] <kaligne> diffis : Nautilus is graphical..
[17:18] <MMukherjee> I am using a Server, OerHeks. -.-
[17:18] <MMukherjee> No GUI there.
[17:18] <irth> apt-cache search openjdk?
[17:19] <kostkon> MMukherjee, sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[17:19] <MMukherjee> 'k
[17:19] <diffis> kaligne:  Yes, but you need to launch it before you can access the files. I'm looking for something that they just sit on the screen and you can click one of them and open it.
[17:19] <OerHeks> apt-cache search openjdk
[17:21] <kaligne> diffis : you just istalled Ubuntu right? If you do not see anything on your Desktop, it means your Desktop folder is empty.
[17:21] <theseb> do you see 14.04 reboot start with lots of popups of stuff crashing?
[17:21] <kaligne> diffis : did you put files in your Desktop folder?
[17:22] <diffis> kaligne:  Now, I've used this installation some months now. And I've created some stuff on there to test, but they won't show.
[17:22] <theseb> how modify program that gets called for SCREEN LOCKING?
[17:22] <diffis> Maybe I've missed one/some settings at some point or something... I afraid..
[17:23] <kaligne> diffis : DO you mean you could see your files on your desktop, but it suddenly stopped working correctly?
[17:24] <kaligne> diffis : or was it from the very start?
[17:25] <diffis> kaligne:  No, I mean that I haven't seen any files on my desktop ever. And I can't get them showing or find any tips what to do.
[17:26] <kaligne> diffis : and you can see them on your desktop when browsing your file manager?
[17:26] <diffis> Yes. Or using the ls on terminal.
[17:28] <kaligne> diffis : otherwise your GUI is working right?
[17:28] <TronicKey> How is the cmd script used for making a build log?
[17:29] <diffis> kaligne:  Yes, it works fine. I've even installed the Ubuntu Tweak and tried to force the icons like trash to show but no success so far.
[17:29] <the_real_derpher> hey can anyone help me with DDNS?
[17:30] <OerHeks> there is a wiki for it > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[17:30] <the_real_derpher> how do I set up the client to receive a DHCP ip addr from one server but register the IP address/hostname with a different nameserver
[17:31] <kaligne> diffis: I once mistaingly deleted my Ubuntu Desktop folder, re-creating it with mkdir would not give me the "desktop displaying"  back. If I recall I booted from the Ubuntu live CD. I then mounted my hard drive (mount /dev/your_hard_drive /mnt) and copied the live Desktop folder in /mnt/home/<user>/
[17:31] <the_real_derpher> I dont think I need ddclient because I can see I registered with nameserver1
[17:33] <kaligne> diffis : the hard drive to mount is the partition your Ubuntu is installed on. Perhaps there are easier solutions out there, I did that hack  because I did not want to spend time searching
[17:35] <diffis> kaligne:  Yes, this is guite hard problem to search. Perhaps I simply leave it to be as it is right now... But thank you. Perhaps I look into the settings one more time and try to see if I'm clicked something strange... :D
[17:36] <kaligne> diffis : mmm... Have you tried re-installing ubuntu-desktop?  "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[17:37] <zenlinux> where can I download an ISO of Utopic RC? I saw that it was scheduled to come out yesterday (Oct 16)
[17:37] <ckildegaard> Hello. I am trying to get connected to campus wifi at my university. They use PEAP and 802.1x I understand that I need wpa_supplicant, but am unsure of exactly how to configure it. I've seen things about PSKs...do I definitely need that?
[17:37] <neredsenvy> Is anyone here using a multi-button mouse ? I have Gigabyte M8600 v2 and I can't get the extra buttons to work. Ubuntu 14.04 detects left, right buttons and the wheel button + up & down but not the 4 extra buttons on the side.
[17:37] <diffis> kaligne:  No.
[17:38] <DJones> w 20
[17:38] <OerHeks> zenlinux,  join #ubuntu+1 untill release for help
[17:39] <zenlinux> OerHeks, will do, tnx
[17:43] <ckildegaard_> Hey, guys. Sorry...connection went down.
[17:44] <ckildegaard_> If anyone responded to me, could you please send your response again? :)
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> ckildegaard_  better repeat your qsuestion
[17:45] <ckildegaard_> I am trying to connect wirelessly to a connection that uses 802.1x. My machine doesn't even see it when scanning for networks and I can't connect. I have tried configuring wpa_supplicant with no success.
[17:45] <ckildegaard_> (I am currently connected via ethernet to that network, but only to look up how to do it wirelessly)
[17:47] <seed_> hi
[17:48] <scrote> moin.
[17:48] <scrote> What is the ntp command line client?
[17:48] <ckildegaard> scrote was that directed at me?
[17:49] <EriC^^> ckildegaard: he just joined
[17:49] <ckildegaard> oh, okay
[17:49] <ckildegaard> I didn't see it, sorry.
[17:49] <DX099> ckildegaard, not on linux right now but if you have wireless adapter, it certainly supports 802.1x
[17:50] <EriC^^> ckildegaard: no problem
[17:50] <EriC^^> ckildegaard: type lspci | grep Network
[17:50] <ckildegaard> DX099: great, but do you know how I use it?
[17:50] <DX099> ckildegaard, also wpa_supplicant is installed per default on Ubuntu
[17:51] <DX099> are you able to see the network with some other device from where you are ?
[17:51] <ckildegaard> D099: I remember having to install wpa_supplicant, and yes, I can see the network.
[17:51] <PottyTheShitter> YOU ARE ONLY ONE HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM ETERNAL TORMENT
[17:51] <PottyTheShitter> Luke 12:4-5; Luke 13:3
[17:52] <PottyTheShitter> !ops | YOU ARE ONLY ONE HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM ETERNAL TORMENT
[17:52] <PottyTheShitter> Luke 12:4-5; Luke 13:3
[17:52] <ckildegaard> EricC^^: that command doesn't give me any output. What should it do?
[17:52] <EriC^^> ckildegaard: it should return the wireless network controller
[17:52] <EriC^^> ckildegaard: try lspci | grep Wireless
[17:53] <DX099> ckildegaard, that's really strange because wpa_supplicant is what network-manager uses to operate with wireless networks and ships per default with every ubuntu install out there
[17:53] <ckildegaard> Hmm...I am not using Unity (although it is installed). Could that have anything to do with it?
[17:54] <ckildegaard> 02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[17:54] <DX099> nope, nothing to do with unity
[17:55] <DX099> ckildegaard, could you try lsmod | grep ipw200 ?
[17:55] <ckildegaard> DX099: no output
[17:57] <DX099> ckildegaard, "sudo modprobe ipw200" ?
[17:57] <OerHeks> *2100
[17:57] <ckildegaard> no output
[17:58] <DX099> OerHeks, oops yeah
[17:59] <DX099> ckildegaard, rather than ipw200, try given commands with ipw2100
[17:59] <kaligne> I copied Ubuntu iso to my usb stick with "dd if=ubuntu of=/dev/sb1". When I boot on my usb, it says "no operating system". It usually works, why wouldn't it work this time? Should I flag /dev/sdb1 as "Legacy BIOS Bootable" with gdisk? I never had to do so though
[17:59] <ckildegaard> DX099: I tried that
[17:59] <DX099> still no output
[17:59] <DX099> ?
[17:59] <ckildegaard> Correct
[18:00] <ckildegaard> This wouldn't be because I'm already on Ethernet, would it?
[18:00] <DX099> did you try "lsmod ipw2100" after using "sudo modprobe ipw2100" ?
[18:00] <DX099> no
[18:00] <DX099> nothing to do with Ethernet unless really weird bug
[18:01] <EriC^^> kaligne: you dd'd it to a partition or the whole disk?
[18:01] <EriC^^> nevermind
[18:01] <kaligne> EriC^^ : I used dd to the only partition which covers the whole disk space
[18:02] <kaligne> EriC^^ : which was /dev/sdb1
[18:02] <DX099> kaligne, that should have been /dev/sdb
[18:03] <kaligne> DX099 : Oh shoot.. Ill get it right thanks :)
[18:04] <DX099> np
[18:05] <DX099> ckildegaard, mmh the module for your wireless chipset should be built with the kernel
[18:06] <Space_Man> hello, which java should I use with libreoffice, I want to convert some files to odt using "soffice --headless --convert-to odt * docx"? thanks
[18:06] <Quatroking> here's a plan, guys
[18:06] <Quatroking> actually no plan
[18:06] <Quatroking> nevermind
[18:06] <EriC^^> yay
[18:07] <Quatroking> ¯\(ツ)/¯
[18:07] <ckildegaard> When running "lsmod ipw2100" I just get "usage:  lsmod"
[18:07] <EriC^^> was that the plan all along?
[18:07] <EriC^^> :P
[18:07] <Quatroking> or was it?
[18:07] <Quatroking> Well I'm planning on moving my ubuntu install over to a new drive
[18:07] <EriC^^> what for?
[18:07] <DX099> ckildegaard, that's my mistake. Rather, after "sudo modprobe ipw2100", try "lsmod | grep ipw2100"
[18:07] <Quatroking> it's currently installed on the second drive of my laptop
[18:08] <Quatroking> I'd rather have it on the primary drive so I can pull the secundary drive out
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> Quatroking  try to keep your question in one line, it's easier to easier and repeat
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> easier to read and repeat*
[18:08] <Quatroking> Sure, will try
[18:09] <Quatroking> hey now, that's two lines!
[18:09] <DX099> is should be loaded because when the "modprobe xxx" is used, it outputs something if "xxx" module doesn't exist. So the operation should have been successfull
[18:10] <EriC^^> Quatroking: ok so backup your stuff, get the list of programs and reinstall
[18:10] <EriC^^> Quatroking: i don't know if you could just dd the whole thing too
[18:11] <Quatroking> I've done one of these aptoncd things - should I backup /usr/ too?
[18:11] <EriC^^> i'm guessing aptoncd is the repositories on a cd?
[18:12] <EriC^^> if you're reinstalling the apps, no need to backup /usr/ i guess
[18:12] <Quatroking> yeah it grabs all your installed packages minus the default ones
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> !aptoncd
[18:12] <ShrewdSpirit> hi
[18:12] <ckildegaard> DX099: found several files
[18:12] <Quatroking> !dd
[18:12] <ShrewdSpirit> guys I can
[18:12] <ShrewdSpirit> ah damn this enter key
[18:13] <Quatroking> EriC^^, what's dd do?
[18:13] <EriC^^> Quatroking: it's a low level copier
[18:13] <EriC^^> Quatroking: will image the whole disk bit for bit
[18:13] <ShrewdSpirit> guy I can't record audio from system, like, audacity cannot record the current playing song
[18:13] <ShrewdSpirit> or teamspeak cannot hear system sound even I've set it to monitor system sound
[18:13] <DX099> ckildegaard, do you see a line like "ipw2100 weird-number chat,chat,chat" ?
[18:14] <EriC^^> ShrewdSpirit: try pavucontrol
[18:14] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: thanks, sounds cool
[18:15] <ShrewdSpirit> can't I just install realtek drivers? cuz ubuntu doesn't detect the mic on my handsfree
[18:16] <EriC^^> ShrewdSpirit: pavucontrol might help you record the current playing song
[18:16] <ShrewdSpirit> EriC^^: I have it right now
[18:17] <ShrewdSpirit> EriC^^: but none of the apps can hear system sounds. they only hear microphone
[18:17] <ckildegaard> D099: I do not see that, no. Thanks for your help...I'm just going to get in touch with IT at my university
[18:17] <EriC^^> ShrewdSpirit: you have to switch it in audacity i think
[18:18] <DX099> ckildegaard, well hope they know their way around linux
[18:19] <DX099> ckildegaard, one last thing try "ifconfig -a"
[18:19] <EriC^^> heh
[18:19] <EriC^^> would be funny if it was down
[18:19] <DX099> definitely
[18:21] <LucidGuy> Anyone able to get java apps to work in firefox?
[18:21] <ShrewdSpirit> EriC^^: I thought audacity will record system audio automatically but it wont. I had to set it to monitor audio in pulsecontrol
[18:22] <ShrewdSpirit> *pulseaudio control :D
[18:24] <EriC^^> ShrewdSpirit: yeah :D
[18:24] <michael_j_p> choppy video in facebook in chrome - any suggestions ?
[18:25] <dahood> hey guys
[18:25] <kostkon> LucidGuy, you need to install icedtea-plugin first
[18:25] <UseTh3S0urce> So I got select Wubi to work by disabling the md5 check
[18:25] <dahood> i am using precise puppy based on ubuntu. there is also slacko puppy based on slackware. why is ubunut better than slackware or wise versa?
[18:25] <UseTh3S0urce> then it wouldnt mount root
[18:25] <UseTh3S0urce> It was set as read only
[18:26] <UseTh3S0urce> so once I fixed that, by directly editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg(I know this is a no no) it works like a charm, finally!
[18:26] <EriC^^> lovely
[18:28] <EriC^^> i'm afraid to ask, but you did remove the md5 check cause of a bug right? not cause the iso's md5 was off?
[18:28] <LucidGuy> kostkon, I have .. but some sites still complain I don't have it installed.
[18:29] <UseTh3S0urce> EriC^^: I downloaded the image 5 times from 3 different sources
[18:29] <EriC^^> UseTh3S0urce: and the md5 was always not checking out?
[18:29] <UseTh3S0urce> And the md5 kept failing and it would download its copy of the iso via torrent
[18:30] <UseTh3S0urce> and that md5 would fail
[18:30] <EriC^^> UseTh3S0urce: why did you not use rsync ? it can patch it up with it's differencing algorithm
[18:30] <UseTh3S0urce> EriC^^: Yeah I just read where to find the log
[18:30] <UseTh3S0urce> I wasnt on a nix system
[18:31] <EriC^^> argh, sounds like a mess
[18:31] <UseTh3S0urce> Anyways, I had to disabe the md5 check, but i checked the file integrity
[18:31] <UseTh3S0urce> And the grub lines were all ro
[18:31] <UseTh3S0urce> SO root wouldnt mount
[18:32] <UseTh3S0urce> I almost thought I did have a bad image, luckily I found someone who had similar issue online, and looked at the boot params
[18:32] <pcn> Hi everyone
[18:32] <UseTh3S0urce> i pcn
[18:33] <pcn> What's the best channel to ask questions about net installing ubuntu (with cobbler in my case)
[18:33] <pcn> I'm trying to use local mirrors in a lab w/o internet
[18:33] <pcn> it's proving challenging :)
[18:35] <Quatroking> on a 500gb drive, what'd you guys suggest to assign to /home/, / and swap?
[18:36] <EriC^^> Quatroking: swap depends on whether or not you want hibernation, /home if you're using it all just assign 30gb to "/" and the rest as /home
[18:37] <OerHeks> Quatroking, let the installer choose, and you will be fine
[18:37] <EriC^^> Quatroking: if you want hibernation swap should be slightly larger than your ram
[18:37] <andrej1> Swap need if small RAM
[18:37] <EriC^^> OerHeks: installer won't partition a seperate home, would it?
[18:37] <Quatroking> OerHeks, installers aint the boss of me! anarchy!! - EriC^^ alright, will keep that in mind
[18:38] <Quatroking> throwing 10gb at swap, 40gb at / and the leftover 450 at home
[18:38] <EriC^^> sounds good
[18:40] <bekks> Quatroking: 10GB swap - so you have 10GB RAM?
[18:40] <Quatroking> I've got 4GB ram but I like the number 10
[18:41] <bekks> Well, thats wasting more than half of your swap then. :P
[18:41] <Quatroking> meh, I can always adjust it later
[18:41] <Supermathie> So... something about me firing events between master and jobs is making my Windows minion crash :/ https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/16723
[18:41] <Supermathie> or exit.
[18:43] <errietta> is hexchat in thedefault ubuntu repos?
[18:43] <errietta> 14.04
[18:43] <Supermathie> errietta, yes
[18:44] <Supermathie> errietta, yes it's in universe
[18:44] <Supermathie> is it better than xchat? :D
[18:48] <balance> hi I have a very basic question, if I create a file and do chmod 775 and then I upload if and someone downloads it , is it still 775?
[18:49] <DJones> Supermathie: I don't find much difference between them, if anything, hexchat seems less stable in that it crashes more often, but other than that, very little difference
[18:49] <Supermathie> Whatever uploads/downloads the file would have to query and explicitly set the mode. It's metadata.
[18:50] <balance> Supermathie that was for me?
[18:51] <Supermathie> balance, yep
[18:52] <balance> Supermathie, ah ok, so how do I know what permission is set after the download? What are the rules ubuntu uses?
[18:52] <errietta> ta
[18:53] <Supermathie> balance, ubuntu doesn't have any rules per se, but take a look at umask - that probably mostly addresses your question
[18:53] <balance> Supermathie ok thanks :)
[18:55] <irreverant> in windows you can enter cli info into the run box
[18:55] <irreverant> such as \\server\folder
[18:55] <irreverant> where can i enter this info in ubuntu?
[18:55] <bekks> balance: there is no way to enforce the permissions of a download.
[18:56] <bekks> balance: It always depends on the defaults/rules on the client - the uploader cant enforce that.
[18:56] <balance> bekks ok good thanks
[18:58] <feiyin> :-D
[19:01] <Anoniem4l> tsimpson here are 2 pictures of the problem: https://i.imgur.com/aaAJizR.png --- https://i.imgur.com/iaiykny.png
[19:04] <Wryness> how do I know which data to enter into the fstab file when I want to add a partition to it?
[19:04] <henkpoley2> Anybody here knows if on any laptop optical drive, you can just replace the drawer front-panel?
[19:05] <Wryness> also, can I add a partition to fstab if its not permanently mounted, but only mounted if I want to mount it via sshfs?
[19:05] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, many times I will ssh-add a pem file and then use the nautilus "connect to server " feature to get the sftp style connection. This works great for a week or so then it says permission denies and I have to ssh-add the same exact key again.
[19:05] <Pinkamena_D> Is this intentional or not?
[19:06] <Pinkamena_D> I often do through many keypair adds, is it possible that some of the new ones overwrite older ones somehow?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> Wryness  in a terminal, type lsblk
[19:09] <Wryness> thanks
[19:09] <imbezol> upgraded to 14.10.. virtual consoles are all black / blank / not working
[19:09] <irreverant> I have a windows server and ubuntu box and need to transfer files from one to the other, what's the best method to accomplish this task?
[19:09] <imbezol> known issue?
[19:10] <dxtr_> Hello everybody
[19:10] <OerHeks> imbezol, join #ubuntu+1 for support untill release 14.10
[19:10] <imbezol> OerHeks: thx
[19:12] <Jordan_U> irreverant: There are many options, and "best" is subjective and dependant on exact circumstances. One option is to make a network share on the server and connect to it from Ubuntu, after which you can copy things as you normally would.
[19:12] <dxtr_> If you are free I need some help here please
[19:13] <Jordan_U> dxtr_: Just ask your question. If anybody thinks they can help they'll respond :)
[19:13] <dxtr_> Well , ubuntu can't connect to wifi
[19:14] <dxtr_> Im connecting through ethernet cable now
[19:15] <cryptic0> Just installed Ubuntu 14.04 server.  I plan to install some software in /work and I would like all users to be able to access that software.  Do I need to set any special permissions?
[19:15] <bekks> cryptic0: No.
[19:16] <Jordan_U> cryptic0: What are you actually trying to install?
[19:16] <cryptic0> Jordan_U: data analysis software
[19:16] <Jordan_U> cryptic0: What software specifically?
[19:17] <cryptic0> Jordan_U: not sure why people keep asking me this question.  We are an academic research lab, we need hundreds of pieces of code to do data analysis.
[19:17] <cryptic0> it's all going into /work
[19:17] <irreverant> Jordan_U yes i'm trying that but it doesn't want to accept account credentials
[19:18] <Jordan_U> cryptic0: The standard prefix for proprietary software is /opt/, and the standard prefix for locally built (as opposed to installed from the package manager) software is /usr/local/. If you keep things in /work/ you will (at least) need to change all users' $PATH.
[19:18] <cryptic0> Jordan_U: thank you.  That's exactly what I wanted to know.
[19:19] <cryptic0> can I mount /work partition onto /usr/local?
[19:20] <Jordan_U> cryptic0: You're keeping this on a separate partition rather than just a separate directory?
[19:21] <bekks> cryptic0: /work and /usr/local are mountpoints, not partitions. And as Jordan_U already stated, the standard prefix for proprietary software is /opt/
[19:21] <cryptic0> I made a /work a separate partition
[19:22] <Jordan_U> cryptic0: Why?
[19:22] <genii> You won't be able to change ownerships/permissions if it's a partition
[19:22] <cryptic0> that's what I was told to do when I was trying to install biolinux. I eventually gave up biolinux and installed Ubuntu server, but the partition scheme stayed the same
[19:23] <cryptic0> genii: what?
[19:23] <genii> ( well, you can, but it will reset to root every boot)
[19:24] <Jordan_U> genii: cryptic0: That is not true at all, permissions are perfectly editable on separate partitions, as long as they use a filesystem which supports the permissions you need (e.g. ext3/4).
[19:24] <cryptic0> Jordan_U: all partitions are ext4 on my system.
[19:24] <cryptic0> I can just add /work to the $PATH variable for everyone
[19:25] <Jordan_U> cryptic0: I generally advocate for a single partition for everything, because that way you don't need to worry about guessing how much space you'll need for each and having one partition get full while overall you still have tons of space left.
[19:25] <genii> Jordan_U: The problem is, you can permanently change permissions of for instance a folder which is on a partition, but the ownership of the root of the partition gets set by udev/modprobe to root every time the system boots
[19:25] <cryptic0> Jordan_U: storage isn't really a problem, we have a large network storage available to us.  This machine is only for data analysis and on the fly storage.
[19:26] <cryptic0> genii: that makes no sense.
[19:27] <pavlos> cryptic0, set your PATH in /etc/environment and all users will pick that
[19:27] <FilthyMacNasty> 30% ext4 OS partition 2% swap 68% /home
[19:27] <errietta> Supermathie, thanks</late>
[19:27] <cryptic0> pavlos: is 'environment' a file?
[19:27] <irreverant> what's the syntax to push a file using ftp from cli (ubuntu) to windows?
[19:27] <pavlos> cryptic0, yes /etc/environment
[19:28] <cryptic0> thanks
[19:28] <irreverant> i need to say put /home/ftp c:\..........
[19:28] <Supermathie> irreverant, ncftpput
[19:28] <irreverant> ncftpput?
[19:29] <cryptic0> why is /home owned by 'root'? Is that normal?
[19:29] <Pici> irreverant: The FTP server is running on windows?
[19:29] <Pici> cryptic0: yes, that is normal.
[19:29] <cryptic0> ok
[19:29] <Pici> cryptic0: /home/youruser should be owned by youruser though.
[19:30] <cryptic0> yes, can confirm.
[19:31] <cryptic0> If I wanted /work partition to be accessible by everyone, is it prudent to do: chmod a+rwx /work?
[19:31] <dbugger> Hi guys. Everytime I restart the computer, I need to replug the webcam to make it works. Otherwise it says it can not detect it. What is the problem??
[19:31] <FilthyMacNasty> chmod 777?
[19:32] <Jordan_U> cryptic0: It's generally a bad idea to give word write permissions to important files. Do all of these users need to write to this directory, or only read from it?
[19:32] <Pici> cryptic0: no, you should add a group and then put all those people in that group and then chown the path to that group.
[19:32] <cryptic0> Jordan_U: read/write/execute permissions are needed for all users. We are small group of 5 people.
[19:32] <cryptic0> Pici: great idea
[19:32] <Luca24> ciao
[19:32] <Luca24> !list
[19:32] <FilthyMacNasty> yup group it and group the users
[19:33] <cryptic0> a user can be part of many groups right?
[19:33] <Jordan_U> cryptic0: Yes.
[19:33] <pavlos> at least put a README file to remember what you did 6 months ago
[19:33] <FilthyMacNasty> bah documentation is for weenies
[19:33] <cryptic0> pavlos: was that for me?
[19:33] <pavlos> yes
[19:33] <cryptic0> pavlos: ditto!
[19:34] <FilthyMacNasty> never comment your code, its job security
[19:34] <cryptic0> FilthyMacNasty: lol
[19:34] <OerHeks> nice troll, FilthyMacNasty
[19:34] <FilthyMacNasty> wasnt a troll, just making funny
[19:37] <Wryness> I have mounted a remote partition via sftp/sshfs. how can I find out which sda number it has so that I can add it to my fstab?
[19:38] <compdoc> doubt it will have a /dev/sdx
[19:38] <compdoc> but fstab doesnt need it
[19:39] <cryptic0> Can root share ownership of a partition with a group?
[19:39] <irreverant> i just used scp
[19:39] <Wryness> but when I want to unmount it, I always get the message "umount: /media/partition is not in the fstab (and you are not root)"
[19:40] <FilthyMacNasty> Wryness using sudo?
[19:41] <Wryness> with sudo it works, but if I just click on the unmount/safely remove button in nautilus, the message appears (unless I am running nautilus as root)
[19:42] <FilthyMacNasty> mount is a root thing
[19:42] <Wryness> but why can I mount and unmount say usb keys without needing root in nautilus then?
[19:43] <FilthyMacNasty> because automount runs as root
[19:46] <Wryness> that doesnt make sense. If both runs as root, then why can I unmount usb keys from nautilus but not remote partitions?
[19:50] <cryptic0> I set up my public key in authorized_keys on the server and the automated ssh login was working fine for a while.  But now it's asking me for password again.
[19:50] <cryptic0> Any ideas?
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Wryness: Because there are PolicyKit policies in place for external devices, but not for manual sshfs mounts. Also, there is no device node associated with sshfs mounts, as there is no block device.
[19:52] <fartface> This might be a stupid question, but is there any way to setup a keyboard shortcut for "CTRL+LEFT" to act as "HOME" and "CTRL-RIGHT" to act as "END" like on a Mac keyboard?
[19:52] <fartface> Or at least in OSX
[19:53] <Jordan_U> Wryness: If you add "user" to the mount options field in the fstab then any user can mount that entry, and the same user that mounted it can unmount it.
[19:53] <Jordan_U> !fstab | Wryness
[19:53] <FilthyMacNasty> can you use username instead of user?
[19:54] <Wryness> so i have to literally add "user", not my username?
[19:54] <guntbert> cryptic0: start with telling ssh to be more verbose:   ssh -v   user@server
[19:54] <Jordan_U> Wryness: Correct.
[19:55] <FilthyMacNasty> now of course if you set the user on the partition to "username" they should be the only one accessing it
[19:56] <Jordan_U> !who | FilthyMacNasty
[19:57] <jhutchins> FilthyMacNasty: Most irc clients will auto-complete a nic if you type the first few characters and hit <Tab>.
[19:58] <jhutchins> FilthyMacNasty: No, <username> is not a valid mount option, althoug uid is.  Man pages and web docs go into detail.
[19:58] <cryptic0> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8580942/
[19:58] <jhutchins> FilthyMacNasty: Still haven't tracked down the genius who decided that removable devices should always mout read-only.
[20:03] <jhutchins> cryptic0: Check ownership and permissions on your private key.
[20:03] <jhutchins> cryptic0: should be owned:group by you an RW user only.
[20:05] <Jordan_U> jhutchins: "Still haven't tracked down the genius who decided that removable devices should always mout read-only.", that should not be happening.  I'm testing Utopic. final release.
[20:08] <OerHeks> jirka_,  join #ubuntu+1 for support untill release 14.10
[20:08] <Fishscene> Greetings. I'm following the LiveCD customization tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization I'm stuck under "Producing the CD image". The 2nd command is "sudo chroot edit dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Package} ${Version}\n' > extract-cd/casper/filesystem.manifest" and it appears it is trying to change the root, and extact information outside the root. Does this look right? It is failing for me..
[20:09] <jirka_> OerHeks, Thanks
[20:10] <Wryness> does anybody know if someone has ever written a tool/script for ubuntu/linux to automatically be notified about (attempted/failed/successful) logins on ones ssh servers?
[20:10] <tgm4883> Wryness: would something like fail2ban work?
[20:10] <tgm4883> !info fail2ban
[20:10] <genii> Wryness: Look into fail2ban, as tgm4883 suggests
[20:11] <Wryness> will do, thanks
[20:11] <OerHeks> one liner grep sshd.\*Failed /var/log/auth.log | less
[20:11] <tgm4883> it sends me an email every time someone gets banned on our servers and bans them for 10 minutes by default (I changed ours to an infinite ban)
[20:12] <tgm4883> OerHeks: that would work, but is less of an automated response
[20:12] <OerHeks> tgm4883,   true, fail2ban is an excellent solution
[20:14] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: Please pastebin the exact command you're running, and its complete output.
[20:15] <guntbert> cryptic0: that looks like neither the id_dsa nor id_rsa keys are accepted, are you certain that one of them is in the autorized_keys file of your server?
[20:16] <AdmantgardSam> Reinitiate RSA keys 1 and 2
[20:17] <tempmemp> Hey guys, I just had my screen go to black with a quickly blinking underscore. I restarted and everything's fine, but wondering what the issue was. I tried going to tty and it wasn't working. Kernel panic?
[20:18] <daftykins> tempmemp: not likely for kernel panic
[20:18] <daftykins> read your logs maybe
[20:18] <tgm4883> tempmemp: usually you'd see your keyboard lights blinking on a kernel panic
[20:18] <Jordan_U> tempmemp: Was your caps lock light flashing?
[20:18] <tgm4883> although that is odd you couldn't get to another TTY
[20:18] <tempmemp> Jordan_U: Nope, nothing was flashing
[20:18] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | tempmemp
[20:19] <Jordan_U> tempmemp: (for future reference).
[20:19] <Pinkamena_D> how can I set up a user to be able to authenticate private key to a server without giving them the admin user .pem file?
[20:20] <Pinkamena_D> For example I am x user and I have the admin .pem file for a remote server. I would like to give y user access to the remote server with their own username
[20:21] <tempmemp> Jordan_U: Didn't know something like this even existed. Thanks.
[20:21] <Jordan_U> tempmemp: You're welcome.
[20:21] <aigeano> hey
[20:21] <Pinkamena_D> the REI parts of REISUB always say they are disabled for me.
[20:22] <tempmemp> daftykins: syslog?
[20:22] <guntbert> Pinkamena_D: set up an account for the user, let them create their key pair and tell them to copy it to the server with ssh-copy-id
[20:22] <AdmantgardSam> This is not good: Old and good tune with bad intents: http://www.rocksvirke.com/vesti/aktuelno/4083-robert-truhijo-metallica-o-novom-albumu.html ... Coca Cola Zero still has the cancerous asesulfam and Acesulfam-k artificial sweeteners. We have switched to Stevia, a natural replacement for sugar that doesnt cause cancer.
[20:22] <aigeano> m having some problem with my desktop screen ,which blinks and goes unresponsive after some time on
[20:23] <guntbert> !ot | AdmantgardSam
[20:23] <AdmantgardSam> Ill talk to Truhilljo about this.
[20:23] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: tempmemp: Indeed, Ubuntu and many other distros now default to not allowing many of the useful Sysrq feature, I always re-enable them.
[20:23] <aigeano> maybe due to some problem with the lughtdm package ,i tried reinstalling it but problem still persist
[20:24] <dxtr_> Hello again  , can you anyone please tell me whats wrong with my wifi , why i can't get connected to it , here is network test check http://paste.ubuntu.com/8580961/
[20:24] <dxtr_> Hello again  , can anyone please tell me whats wrong with my wifi , why i can't get connected to it , here is network test check http://paste.ubuntu.com/8580961/
[20:25] <Pinkamena_D> guntbert
[20:25] <AdmantgardSam> guntbert: Do you feel that this is unimportant ? Quad pipes * 4 << 0x65
[20:25] <jeremyb> dxtr_ can you change the encryption on flat9 to WPA2-AES?
[20:25] <dxtr_> Jeremyb : ok wait I will try
[20:25] <bekks> AdmantgardSam: Can you clarify the Ubuntu support relevance please?
[20:25] <Pinkamena_D> I manage a server with many users where the remote server changes fairly frequently and I was looking for a way to do it programatically
[20:26] <Pinkamena_D> I am not looking for the program logic but rather a mechanism where an administrative user would setup the ssh pairs for non administrative users
[20:26] <AdmantgardSam> bekks: Knowledge is good. I like Ubuntu people so they dont get harmed in any way.
[20:26] <modelengine> hello, i get the following message when i try to install certain things via terminal. can anyone help me out, please? http://imgur.com/fVNJh8k
[20:26] <AdmantgardSam> at&f
[20:26] <Jordan_U> AdmantgardSam: Please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss your ban.
[20:26] <bekks> Pinkamena_D: sudo su -c username - ssh-keygen -t rsa
[20:26] <dxtr_> @jeremyb : still the same problem
[20:27] <Pinkamena_D> woah, that was fast.. lt me chack that out P
[20:27] <Fishscene> Jordan_U: Sorry for the long wait. I can't pastebinit because the command fails unless I use sudo to execute, and if I sudo the command, Pastebinit has no output.
[20:27] <Fishscene> wait
[20:28] <tempmemp> Well, looks like I was getting spammed with "Oct 17 16:11:27 PC1 acpid: 1 client rule loaded" Multiples of these on every other line and "Oct 17 16:11:27 PC1 acpid: client 4864[0:0] has disconnected" "Oct 17 16:11:27 PC1 acpid: client connected from 4869[0:0]"
[20:29] <tempmemp> Constant connects and disconnects. I'm guessing this is when it was on the blank screen with the blinking underscore.
[20:29] <dxtr_> s
[20:29] <dxtr_> JereymB : yes it worked
[20:29] <dxtr_> but without internet
[20:30] <Wryness> how long does it take rsync to notice changes in a file?
[20:30] <TronicKey> How do I turn kill X in Ubuntu? Normally it is Ctrl Alt Backspace?
[20:31] <bekks> Wryness: depends on the filesize
[20:31] <jeremyb> dxtr_ you may have to delete your wifi connection in network manager, then add it back with the WPA2 personal encryption option
[20:31] <Fishscene> Yea, I'm either not understanding how to get pastebinit to work (echo test | pastebinit) works just fine, or the command failure is causing it not to output to pastebinit
[20:31] <Montenegrina> Hi
[20:31] <Wryness> <100 KB?
[20:31] <Fishscene> Basically, I'm running this exact command: sudo chroot edit dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Package} ${Version}\n' > extract-cd/casper/filesystem.manifest
[20:32] <Fishscene> Output: bash: extract-cd/casper/filesystem.manifest: Permission denied
[20:32] <Jordan_U> TronicKey: One way to (rather forcefully) kill X is to use alt+Sysrq+K . (I don't remember if this is one of the sysrq commands disabled by default in Ubuntu or not).
[20:32] <tempmemp> I'm guessing the acpid errors were due to some bug?
[20:32] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: Does your user have write permissions to extract-cd/casper/filesystem.manifest ?
[20:33] <Fishscene> let me check
[20:33] <TronicKey> Thanks Jordan_U .Sure a far cry from fvwm2. Things have changed the GNU/Linux world !
[20:33] <Jordan_U> TronicKey: You're welcome.
[20:33] <Fishscene> No. I do not. But I'm running the command with sudo permissions I thought?
[20:34] <modelengine> anybody?
[20:34] <tempmemp> Jordan_U: I always thought it was ctrl+alt+backspace to kill X, or does that command do the same?
[20:34] <Fishscene> It appears that I'm chroot to the edit directory, and then extracting information out of the chroot environment, which doesn't make sense to me..
[20:34] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: You're running the command "chroot edit dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Package} ${Version}\n'" as root, then telling bash (which is running as your user) to safe that commands output to extract-cd/casper/filesystem.manifest .
[20:35] <modelengine> i get the following message when i try to install certain things via terminal. can anyone help me out, please? http://imgur.com/fVNJh8k
[20:35] <Jordan_U> tempmemp: ctrl+alt+backspace is a shortcut to kill X, which has been disabled in most distributions. Alt+Sysrq+K is a kernel command to forcefully kill whatever is on the current tty, (SaK).
[20:36] <Fishscene> Jordan_U: That would explain the permission denied. I'm nervous about changing the permissions as I don't want to mess up the custom livecd I'm putting together.
[20:37] <Fishscene> ...and I find it odd that no one else has caught this gap in the website tutorial. :P Who should I contact to talk about updating the tutorial?
[20:37] <compdoc> modelengine, you dont have to use: sudo apt-get install?
[20:37] <compdoc> or are you trying to remove it?
[20:37] <tempmemp> Jordan_U: Ohh, ok.
[20:38] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: You have a common misconception about how commands in the bash shell work. It's bash that handles redirection of output, like '> somefile' or '| some_other_command'. So if you run "echo foo > /tmp/bar" bash runs "echo foo", then takes the output ("foo") and saves it to the file /tmp/bar. It is not echo that saves to /tmp/bar, in fact the echo command knows nothing about the file /tmp/bar. Do you understand that much
[20:39] <Bushman> ave
[20:39] <Bushman> i've tried to run Compulite Vector PC on my ubuntu but the only error i get is:
[20:39] <Bushman> err:ole:CoUninitialize Mismatched CoUninitialize
[20:39] <Bushman> donno how to fix this cause google results show people had other errors with it.
[20:39] <Bushman> can anyone try to diagnose the problem with me?
[20:40] <dbugger> Hi guys. Everytime I restart the computer, I need to replug the webcam to make it works. Otherwise it says it can not detect it. What is the problem??
[20:40] <modelengine> compdoc, i think i may have figured it out. at one point i wanted to change my computer name. i went into gedit /hosts/etc/hostname
[20:41] <modelengine> compdoc, it brough up a window where i changed the host name, now when i type certain things in terminal, it can't resolve the host name b/c it is diff from the main host (i think)
[20:41] <compdoc> oic
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: What is the output of "ls -ld extract-cd/"? (If it's more than one line, use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ).
[20:41] <compdoc> its /etc/hosts
[20:41] <compdoc> and /etc/hostname
[20:42] <Jordan_U> !hostname | modelengine
[20:43] <modelengine> compdoc, and Jordan_U, i used this tutorial http://imgur.com/wdXJmUD
[20:44] <OerHeks> modelengine, looks like you forgot to edit /etc/hosts
[20:45] <modelengine> OerHeks, yeah, so what i did is, i went back into gedit, and changed the hosts back to the orig host name. it wants me to restart, so i will be back in a jiffy....and thanks to everyone :)
[20:46] <Jordan_U> modelengine: Try to stick to official documentation whenever possible, instructions from random blogs are usually wrong (and sometimes dangerous). Also, why did you link to a screenshot of the webpage instead of the webpage?
[20:47] <donspaulding> Hi there, I'm using n2n to setup multiple VPN interfaces on a single host.  I would like to use avahi/mDNS to broadcast a different hostname tied to a different IP address on each device.
[20:47] <menace> hi, is the static analyzer named clang already in the ubuntu repositories? i cannot find it, but i am not entirely sure
[20:48] <modelengine> ok i'm bakc
[20:48] <Jordan_U> modelengine: Try to stick to official documentation whenever possible, instructions from random blogs are usually wrong (and sometimes dangerous). Also, why did you link to a screenshot of the webpage instead of the webpage?
[20:48] <donspaulding> For example, if I have a 'prodvpn0' interface and a 'testvpn0' interface, each with their own IP (assigned by avahi-autoipd), how can I have avahi-daemon broadcast the mDNS hostname as mybox.testvpn.local on the testvpn0 interface and mybox.prodvpn.local on the prodvpn0 interface?
[20:48] <modelengine> Jordan_U, yeah, i realized that afterwards....my bad
[20:49] <donspaulding> I tried creating individual upstart scripts pointing to different avahi-daemon.conf files, but avahi-daemon refuses to start when it detects a running daemon.
[20:49] <kevindf> What VPN solution would you guys suggest on a ubuntu server 13.04, OpenVPN? Also i'm hosting a voice server on my server, would hosting vpn take alot of cpu/ram & network connection off?
[20:50] <modelengine> Jordan_U, i just took a screenshot of what the terminal looks like when i first open it http://imgur.com/GFGtuDT is there a way for my computer name to just be " kcnixon-vostro-460 " instead of having keithandcandace at the beginning?
[20:50] <Jordan_U> kevindf: None. Upgrade to a supported release of Ubuntu. Ubuntu 13.04 is incredibly insecure.
[20:51] <kevindf> for server? i taught the newest version of server from ubuntu was only available for 64bit?
[20:51] <Bushman>  i've tried to run Compulite Vector PC on my ubuntu but the only error i get is: "err:ole:CoUninitialize Mismatched CoUninitialize". Donno how to fix this cause google results show people had other errors with it. Can anyone help me diagnose the problem?
[20:52] <Jordan_U> modelengine: Do you want to change your hostname, or the prompt in your terminal? Right now the prompt in your terminal is your_username@your_hostname, and your hostname is "kcnixon-Vostro-460".
[20:53] <modelengine> Jordan_U, i just don't want the username to show up in the terminal, or anywhere else for that matter.
[20:53] <kostkon> kevindf, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.1-server-i386.iso
[20:53] <Jordan_U> kevindf: Definitely not, you can get Ubuntu 14.04 server 32 bit.
[20:53] <kevindf> but that would force me to do a complete fresh install?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> !eol | kevindf
[20:54] <kostkon> kevindf, you can try the eol upgrade path 13.04 -> 13.10, then 13.10 -> 14.04, that's 2 upgrades
[20:55] <kevindf> ok
[20:55] <kevindf> once that's done, would you reccommend openvpn as vpn service?
[20:57] <modelengine> also, does anyone know where to download a compatible ICC profiler for linux?
[20:57] <donspaulding> kevindf: openvpn works reasonably well, but I prefer PPTP for compatibility reasons.  The builtin clients on all the major OSes support PPTP natively.
[20:57] <modelengine> i have a asus vg 248 qe gaming monitor
[20:58] <donspaulding> Plus, there's a really handy digitalocean guide for setting up a L2TP/PPTP VPN server.
[20:58] <kevindf> ok
[20:58]  * donspaulding digs around...
[20:58] <kevindf> thanks
[20:58] <donspaulding> kevindf:  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-setup-your-own-vpn-with-pptp
[20:58] <Fishscene> Jordan_U: Sorry about the long delays. I'm still at work. :P
[20:58] <kevindf> thank you
[20:59] <donspaulding> It works on non-DO servers, but if you want to practice, a DO server costs just $5/month.
[20:59] <donspaulding> I use those DO instances like Ewoks, cute, cheap, expendable.
[21:00] <modelengine> does anyone know the terminal command for installing an ICC profiler?
[21:02] <kostkon> modelengine, open your ssystem settings, click on Colo(u)r, import your ICC file
[21:02] <kostkon> system*
[21:03] <vincenzo> chat ciao
[21:05] <boolli> boolli
[21:06] <Lakers_business> join ##slackware
[21:06] <Lakers_business> join #slackware
[21:06] <Lakers_business> join #xubuntu
[21:06] <Fuchs> Lakers_business: try /join
[21:06] <k1l_> Lakers_business: /join #channelname
[21:06] <guntbert> Lakers_business: start the line with /
[21:06] <Fuchs> IRC commands start with a /
[21:06] <theseb> when i reboot ubuntu i can by pass the login by pressing enter and then i get popups of all kinds of errors..why?
[21:07] <Lakers_business> fuuucccck!
[21:07] <Bushman>  i've tried to run Compulite Vector PC on my ubuntu but the only error i get is: "err:ole:CoUninitialize Mismatched CoUninitialize". Donno how to fix this cause google results show people had other errors with it. Can anyone help me diagnose the problem?
[21:08] <kevindf> What would be the best way to backup 1 single file to a external hard drive on a ubuntu server?
[21:08] <Lakers_business> soory for bad language!dont boot me lol lol
[21:08] <Bushman> kevindf: manually or automated?
[21:08] <kevindf> manually
[21:08] <kevindf> just one time
[21:08] <Bushman> kevindf: copy it
[21:09] <kevindf> would it be possible to just transfer over with like FTP or something?
[21:09] <Bushman> kevindf: i might be missing some information. where is the file?
[21:10] <kevindf> it's teamspeak SQLite file
[21:10] <kevindf> to backup my ts server
[21:10] <kevindf> it's in /data/server/teamspeak3
[21:10] <kevindf> data is located in root directory
[21:10] <Bushman> is it on THE ubuntu server?
[21:10] <kevindf> yes
[21:11] <Bushman> then SSH to the server and copy the file with: cp /source/path/filename.ext /destination/path
[21:11] <kevindf> ok
[21:11] <kevindf> thank you
[21:12] <modelengine> kostkon, which profile do i use?
[21:12] <Jordan_U> Bushman: What is Compulite Vector PC? Is it proprietary software? Is it designed to run on GNU/Linux or are you trying to run it via wine? If you purchased it, have you tried the companie's tech support?
[21:13] <Bushman> kevindf: if both, source and destination are on the same machine the simple way is to use terminal. unless the server has desktop enviroment installed and you have phisical access to it then copy it with your mouse :P
[21:13] <Bushman> Jordan_U: yes, i am trying to run it with wine.
[21:13] <Bushman> and no, it was not designed for GNU/Linux unfortunatly
[21:13] <kevindf> nono no GUI :D
[21:13] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: I'm still waiting for responses to my last two messages to you. I can repeat them if needed.
[21:14] <kevindf> i will try transfer over ssh with putty to windows
[21:14] <Bushman> kevindf: then terminal is your friend ;]
[21:14] <kevindf> with that command you gave me
[21:14] <Bushman> kevindf: no
[21:14] <Bushman> kevindf: wait...
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Bushman: Try #winehq then.
[21:14] <Bushman> Jordan_U: no answer yet
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Bushman: What does this software do?
[21:14] <Bushman> it's a stage light console
[21:15] <modelengine> when i go to system settings --> color profiles, the 'calibrate' button is greyed out....anybody?
[21:15] <Bushman> kevindf: don't copy it to windows back and forth
[21:15] <kevindf> as i'm gonna do a fresh installation to a newer version of ubuntu i will copy the file over to windows
[21:15] <Bushman> kevindf: if the file is on the server and the disk is connected to the server copy it directly from one place to another
[21:15] <kevindf> why not if i may ask?
[21:15] <modelengine> I guess what I need help with is calibrating my monitor and creating a color profile
[21:16] <Bushman> kevindf: the external drive is connected to the server, is it?
[21:16] <modelengine> nm i figured it out
[21:17] <kevindf> i could do it with a external hdd but i was planning to put it on my windows pc
[21:17] <kevindf> over ssh
[21:17] <kevindf> then transfer it back once new installation was done
[21:17] <Bushman> then you need sftp client
[21:17] <Bushman> kevindf: there is one on putty website
[21:18] <Bushman> kevindf: but it's command line only so you need to understand the login and filepath syntax
[21:18] <kevindf> filezilla would work with pageant if i'm correct
[21:19] <kevindf> i will try to look up some guide
[21:19] <Bushman> kevindf: if you have http or ftp service on your server just use any browser to access the file to download it to your windows machine
[21:19] <Fishscene> Yea, I'm a little familiar with bash. However, to answer your 2nd question: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8581272/
[21:20] <Fishscene> Sorry for the extreme delays. I answer phones and got tied up with a complicated call.
[21:20] <Bushman> Jordan_U: do you have any reasonable experience with wine related issues? Could you try to help me perhaps?
[21:21] <Fishscene> Jordan_U: ^ (Forgot to tag your name in my reply)
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Bushman: Not really, no.
[21:21] <Bushman> ok. :(
[21:21] <genii> Bushman: You might try their channel
[21:21] <genii> !wine
[21:22] <Bushman> genii: i AM on it. thank you.
[21:22] <Bushman> it's just not that busy channel as this one
[21:22] <genii> Bushman: Yes, waiting can be painful sometimes.
[21:22] <Bushman> so i'm still waiting for anyone to wake up and read my question
[21:23] <modelengine> ok, so when i try to add a color profile it doesn't add even though i import the correct profile. is there anywhere on the net where i could download a suitable gaming profile for my VG248QE monitor? this is what the profile screen looks like for me http://imgur.com/stFv8w5
[21:24] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: OK, so going back to concepts, you understand that when you enter "echo foo > /tmp/bar" into the terminal, it's bash (not echo) that's writing to /tmp/bar. The same is true of "sudo echo foo > /tmp/bar", bash runs a single command "sudo echo foo" and writes its output to /tmp/bar. The command "sudo echo foo" runs /usr/bin/sudo with the arguments "echo foo", and then runs (as root) /bin/echo and passes it "foo". But
[21:26] <Lakers_business> So what is with this new development with nftables, im curious to see if anyone is using it, I very much like iptables but are the major linux distros going to stick with iptables for awhile.Iptables works great for me on my ubuntu machine.
[21:27] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: As to your specific problem, I don't think that the directions are wrong, I think that you didn't follow one of the earlier instructions. Please run the following, and post (or pastebin) its output: history | grep "mkdir extract-cd"
[21:28] <Fishscene> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8581320/
[21:30] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: OK, I thought you might have run "sudo mkdir extract-cd" instead of just "mkdir extract-cd", but it looks like you did follow the instructions properly. I don't know what caused extract-cd to be owned by root.
[21:31] <Fishscene> Jordan_U: Would the rsync a couple of commands later change it to be owned by root?
[21:31] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: I wouldn't expect it to.
[21:31] <Fishscene> I'll test. :)
[21:31] <modelengine> ohhhh baby! I figured it out, and it is AWESOME!!!
[21:32] <kevindf> is it good to do a upgrade from ubuntu server 13.04 to 14.04 with the "do-release-upgrade" method?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> kevindf: You'll need to follow the steps in the EOLupgrade page linked to you earlier, and it will take two upgrades. One upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10, and another from 13.10 to 14.04.
[21:33] <Jordan_U> !eol | kevindf
[21:34] <genii> kevindf: Only LTS versions can be directly upgraded to other LTS
[21:34] <kevindf> would you suggest fresh install or the 2 upgrades
[21:34] <kevindf> if it was your server, what would you pick
[21:34] <genii> kevindf: Fresh, if nothing crucial there
[21:34] <Jordan_U> kevindf: I would do a fresh install, especially as your server might already be compromized given how insecure 13.04 is.
[21:35] <kevindf> ok
[21:40] <david38400> Just connected a Samsun Tv with hdmi connection to my computer, but as the tv has a separate remote control the sound bar panel is appearing and I can't get it off the screen. Also when I turn up the volume automatically is goes back to zero. Does anyone know why this is happening plealse?
[21:44] <Fishscene> Jordan_U: I ran the commands, but set up a test folder to extract the CD. As soon as I run the rsync command (sudo rsync --exclude=/casper/filesystem.squashfs -a mnt/ test), the test folder owner is changed to root: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8581356/
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: OK, I'm not sure if changing the permissions of the directory will break some other part of the instructions, but you should be able to run "sudo chroot edit dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Package} ${Version}\n' | sudo tee extract-cd/casper/filesystem.manifest > /dev/null" to have the file written to as root (by the command tee, which unlike bash is being run as root).
[21:48] <liquidcandy> I have an irq problem showing up in dmesg. Can someone help?
[21:48] <liquidcandy> paste is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8581397/
[21:49] <liquidcandy> Also, I don't think that paste contains all of dmesg (maybe too long for pastebin). There are other warnings and stuff when I look at it in the terminal.
[21:49] <Fishscene> Jordan_U: Command seems to have executed just fine.
[21:49] <Quatroking> obscure hard to answer question time! Does anybody know a working alternative to Synergy that can run on windows and linux? And please, don't throw the alternative software site at me, it only suggests a synergy fork and a program that won't do
[21:51] <Lakers_business> Yes we will see if giants win over KC.yeah i know its not about #ubuntu.Fuck it i do what i do.
[21:51] <Fishscene> Jordan_U: I've made note of your command in my notes for future reference. I'll have to validate it later, but it executed just fine. Thank you so much for looking into this and being patient with me. I really appreciate it.
[21:51] <maveeps> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.      He would "play the bongos" on my ass.!
[21:51] <maveeps> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.!!
[21:52] <maveeps> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.!!!
[21:52] <Quatroking> :<
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Fishscene: You're welcome.
[21:52] <Fishscene> ... I had no idea you were an op too. :P
[21:54] <liquidcandy> Anyone for an irq problem, per chance?
[21:55] <Jordan_U> liquidcandy: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:56] <Jordan_U> liquidcandy: The best solution, if feasable for you, is to buy a nice internal wireless card that uses an Atheros chipset.
[21:56] <Lakers_business> funny playtime hehe.wtFF
[21:56] <k1l_> !guidelines > Lakers_business make sure you read them and stick to them. else you get a ban.
[21:59] <Quatroking> my nintendo bluetooth keyboard reports low battery power the entire time, even though the batteries are brand new, how do I remove these annoying warnings?
[21:59] <Quatroking> in the power statistics, "discharge accuracy" is also zero
[22:00] <m{a}zel> anyone know how to force fsck to check a disk that keeps having i/o errors
[22:00] <greenmon2> I'm installing Ubuntu on an old netbook (as the only OS) with 1GB RAM -- Do I want LVM?  It's asking me.
[22:00] <m{a}zel> its an ssd
[22:00] <OerHeks> !fsck
[22:00] <Jordan_U> m{a}zel: Lets back up. First, do you have all importand data on this drive backed up?
[22:00] <liquidcandy> Jordan_U: (1) Ubuntu 13.04. (2) I am a homeless person and the machine was given to me through my local church. I need to use the comptuer to seek empolyment (in web or software development). Purchasing anything is not really an option for me (I seldom have more than a little spare change in my pocket). If I can't make this work, well, the outlook is bleak to say the least. (3) I do havce a paste of dmesg though if anyone can help.
[22:00] <liquidcandy> If it is even possible to fix.
[22:00] <m{a}zel> yes, not worried about the drive.
[22:01] <liquidcandy> I meant 14.04
[22:01] <Jordan_U> m{a}zel: The first thing I would check is the S.M.A.R.T status of the drive.
[22:01] <m{a}zel> not doing at this exact moment but wanted to know if one could force a check and possibly repair
[22:01] <m{a}zel> didn't come back with anything
[22:01] <Fishscene> hmm... running into more issues with the "Producing the CD image" section. I'm running the command "sudo mksquashfs edit extract-cd/casper/filesystem.squashfs -nolzma", but "-nolzma" doesn't seem to be a valid argument for squashfs
[22:02] <m{a}zel> but when I boot the drive winblows says it's gonna check and fix the drive
[22:02] <Fishscene> NVM. I didn't read 1 line down. lol.
[22:02] <mezel> realized I was still listed as away
[22:02] <Jordan_U> mezel: Is this an ntfs filesystem that's you're getting IO errors from?
[22:02] <mezel> yes
[22:03] <mezel> has windows 8 on the drive
[22:03] <mezel> or win 8.1
[22:03] <Jordan_U> !away | mezel
[22:03] <Jordan_U> mezel: You can't repair an ntfs filesystem from GNU/Linux, only from within Windows.
[22:04] <Lakers_business> offtopic:I cant wait until my brother gets home.Im gonna say lebron is gonna get smashed by the dallas mavericks.lol
[22:04] <mezel> ok, but I was trying to install ubuntu on it
[22:04] <mezel> gave me the i/o error
[22:04] <liquidcandy> Back in the day, with desktop machines, irq issues were hardware issues. Is this something I would need to open up the machine to fix?
[22:04] <OerHeks> liquidcandy, i would first check the bios/irq settings, are they set to 'auto' ?
[22:05] <Svetlana> How do I set a user's locale?
[22:05] <mezel> should i just let MS fix the drive and then try again for install of linux?
[22:05] <Jordan_U> mezel: Yes, definitely.
[22:05] <Svetlana> In debian 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' works and asks to choose, but in Ubuntu it only reconfigures existing locales.
[22:05] <mezel> ok
[22:05] <mezel> will do it later, thanks Jordan_U
[22:06] <mezel> bbl
[22:06] <liquidcandy> OerHeks: My bios (on this pos HP machine) is extremely limited. There is very little available there and certainly not anything to do with irq stuff
[22:06] <liquidcandy> There isn't even a setting for acpi
[22:07] <Jordan_U> Lakers_business: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you'd like to discuss your mute. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines .
[22:07] <OerHeks> liquidcandy, so what is your irq issue?
[22:07] <liquidcandy> There is a paste here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8581397/
[22:07] <liquidcandy> but it is not the entire output of dmesg
[22:08] <liquidcandy> that's all that showed up in the paste when I did sudo dmesg | pastebinit
[22:08] <OerHeks> that is not an irq issue, but a B43 broadcom wireless issue
[22:09] <liquidcandy> OerHeks: ok, well that is the ultimate problem I'm trying to solve. I been working on this steadily for over a week ( no kidding ).
[22:09] <Svetlana> "How do I set a user's locale in Ubuntu? In debian 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' works and asks to choose, but in Ubuntu it only reconfigures existing locales."
[22:09] <liquidcandy> I've read all the howtos (multiple times) tried all (yes all) the drivers. The driver I have now is the most promissing, yet still no go.
[22:10] <liquidcandy> Is Joseph Mills around, and would he be interested in working on a b43 issue
[22:10] <liquidcandy> ?
[22:11] <OerHeks> liquidcandy, what broadcom wifi is it? open terminal: lspci  (and paste the line with bcm here)
[22:11] <Jordan_U> Svetlana: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-help/session-language.html
[22:12] <liquidcandy> OerHeks: ok, it's the 4311 but here's the line from the terminal: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[22:12] <johncarper> is TAR a good backup solution,
[22:12] <johncarper> on a ubuntu server
[22:12] <UseTh3S0urce> Hello
[22:13] <OerHeks> liquidcandy, did you install  linux-firmware-nonfree ?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> liquidcandy: Check your BIOS menus to see if there is any option about PnP (Plug aNd Play).
[22:14] <DX099> johncarper, depends on how you use it but yes, tar is a good backup solution for almost any kind of linux server when used properly
[22:14] <johncarper> ok, thank you
[22:14] <DX099> !tar
[22:15] <liquidcandy> OerHeks: That is the driver I currently have, iirc
[22:15] <DX099> !backup
[22:15] <johncarper> what would be the easiest backup method out of your experience?
[22:15] <Jordan_U> liquidcandy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Indeed, I haven't heard of IRQ issues in many years, so I'm guessing this is a fairly old machine, old enough where OSs that didn't support PnP were still a thing :)
[22:15] <johncarper> both automated and manual
[22:16] <DX099> johncarper, I always backup my package list : "dpkg --get-selections"
[22:16] <[vbm]> Hi there, anyone knows why "ln -s /path/to/folder/*" creates a single symlink named "*" instead of multiple links to all folders under "/path/to/folder"? I tried several variations of the syntax, read the manual, and googled it. I ended up solving it with "for f in $(ls '/media/v/DATA3_2TB/Media/TV Shows/Scraped'); do ln -s '/path/to/folder/'$f; done" but would like to know how to do it with ln alone.
[22:16] <liquidcandy> Jordan_U: it's from 2007 yeah
[22:16] <DX099> actually "dpkg --get-selections > dpkg_backup.txt"
[22:16] <johncarper> ok
[22:16] <OerHeks> liquidcandy, i thought so, remove it, reboot, install broadcom-sta https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_Internet_access
[22:17] <Jordan_U> liquidcandy: As a side note, if you're not already using Lubuntu or at least Xubuntu I suggest you do. Lubuntu 14.04 is running great on this 10 year old laptop of mine, but there is no way I could work with standard Ubuntu on this thing :)
[22:19] <liquidcandy> Jordan_U: Thanks for the link ( It's suggesion is what I feared and I really don't want to brick the thing ). If I put a different system on here I'd probably go w/ gentoo/awesome wm  :  OerHeks, I'll give it a try thx.
[22:20] <Jordan_U> liquidcandy: You're welcome.
[22:20] <DX099> then my home "tar cvf - -p --same-owner /home/myhomedir | 7z a -si my_home.tar.7z"
[22:20] <alexa> If root password has been changed and forgotten, I can't access to root via recovery, is it right?
[22:20] <alexa> What are my options to recover root password?
[22:21] <OerHeks> !password
[22:22] <Jordan_U> [vbm]: There are multiple common bash pitfalls in both your original command, and your for loop. Please join #bash, which is a good place for clearing up bash misconceptions.
[22:23] <DX099> johncarper, then my etc dir "sudo tar cvf - -p --same-owner /etc | 7z a -si my_etc_dir.tar.7z"
[22:23] <DX099> when restoring my etc dir, I do it per directory although
[22:24] <DX099> this isn't really automated but it there are far more advanced tools and scripts out there to do what you want
[22:24] <sl1rpy> http://imageshack.com/a/img538/976/q9zc6E.png can someone tell me what would cause this?  i cannot find a fix for why this would happen...
[22:24] <johncarper> as i only have to backup one dir i will do sudo tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz /data     (where my data is located i have to backup)
[22:24] <johncarper> that should work i guess
[22:25] <EriC^^> johncarper: use this for backing up the installed packages comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[22:25] <Lukenzi_Pancic> hi
[22:25] <EriC^^> hello Lukenzi_Pancic
[22:25] <[vbm]> Jordan_U: thanks. trying @ #bash
[22:26] <johncarper> ok, thanks
[22:26] <liquidcandy> Just entertaining the idea : Is there any way to see what bios/version I have without a restart?
[22:26] <k1l_> liquidcandy: maybe "lshw" tells you
[22:27] <Jordan_U> [vbm]: You're welcome.
[22:27] <johncarper> in order to extract a TAR backup it's just like you extract a regular tar file right
[22:28] <johncarper> like tar -xff
[22:28] <johncarper> xzf*
[22:29] <EriC^^> liquidcandy: sudo dmidecode -s bios-version
[22:33] <CodeGosu> is there any easy ( oneline script? ) way to setup some kind of ssh server that gives access to current directory but nothing else ( assuming user totaly messed up all file rights ofc)?
[22:33] <k1l_> !away > climbup
[22:34] <liquidcandy> EriC^^: Thanks Seems lspci does show it.
[22:34] <johncarper> in order to give a user full Root privileges on ubuntu would "usermod -G root useraccount" work?
[22:35] <EriC^^> liquidcandy: ok, cool, if you want a bunch of info sudo dmidecode -t bios
[22:35] <reisio> johncarper: ...
[22:35] <liquidcandy> cool
[22:35] <johncarper> would it?
[22:36] <EriC^^> johncarper: no
[22:36] <liquidcandy> The link for (what I think is the correct bios upgrade) says in one place :  "This package contains the WinFlash Utility" Link: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-89406-1&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&os=228&product=1842155&sw_lang=
[22:36] <DX099> johncarper, there's only one root account
[22:36] <liquidcandy> Does that mean I would have to have a working windows install in order to do the upgrade?
[22:37] <DX099> being in root's group only create a vulnerability is your system
[22:37] <reisio> liquidcandy: odd question for this channel
[22:37] <johncarper> ok that's not what i want :D
[22:37] <DX099> there are better policies for achieving this
[22:37] <liquidcandy> reisio: sorry I try #hardware
[22:38] <DX099> one would be to put your user in the sudoers
[22:38] <DX099> so that if you trust them, they can gain root via sudo command
[22:39] <johncarper> alright
[22:42] <unstable> Are there collectd and collectd-core packages for precise, with 5.4*?
[22:42] <unstable> backports or ppa or whatever
[22:43] <Freen0deAdmin> Hello
[22:44] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/collectd
[22:44] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/collectd-core
[22:45] <unstable> OerHeks: That is 4.1, trusty has 5.4;
[22:45] <OerHeks> unstable, all i find is collectd 5.2.0-2 in this ppa https://launchpad.net/~raravena80/+archive/ubuntu/collectd5
[22:45] <unstable> OerHeks: collectd-core is missing on that one
[22:46] <OerHeks> hmm you are right
[22:47] <Freen0deAdmin> hello
[22:47] <reisio> 'lo
[22:57] <Freen0deAdmin> !ops
[22:57] <Freen0deAdmin> !staff
[22:58] <Namifez> T_T
[22:58] <Corey> Freen0deAdmin: Yes?
[22:58] <Freen0deAdmin> Corey, hi
[22:58] <kailas> Hi guys, I have to do a presentation on Linux and I am choosing Ubuntu as the example. I am wondering what would be the the best place to get the details about the kernel and the OS. Its an Operating Systems Coures
[22:58] <kailas> ???
[22:59] <Freen0deAdmin> kailas, get this book http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Linux-Kernel-Third-Edition/dp/0596005652
[22:59] <Freen0deAdmin> kailas, or read the linux source code
[22:59] <[976497]A> What are you doing with Ubuntu sytem? First: OpenGL went down and today the sound on my PC is down. WTH?
[23:00] <[976497]A> I didn't change anything.
[23:00] <kailas> Freen0deAdmin: I would read the source if I had some more time, although I think I should start doing that, any online stuff would also be greatly appreciated
[23:00] <LordFoobar> Hi, I have a game that, when I launch it, it says "error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". I have tried installing "sudo apt-get install libopenal1" but it's already installed. Can someone help me?
[23:01]  * ki7rw guesses that he needs to upgrade his mobos because 14.04 is very slow in starting on all boxes
[23:01] <kostkon> LordFoobar, sudo apt-get install libopenal1:i386
[23:01] <kostkon> !find libopenal.so.1
[23:03] <LordFoobar> kostkon, nice! :) thanks
[23:03] <kostkon> LordFoobar, np
[23:03] <Freen0deAdmin> kailas, http://www.tuxradar.com/content/how-linux-kernel-works
[23:04] <Freen0deAdmin> !ops | how am i doing?
[23:04] <kailas> Freen0deAdmin: Thanks, that looks great
[23:04] <Freen0deAdmin> kailas, no problem
[23:05] <OerHeks> Freen0deAdmin, please do not use !ops unless it is needed in emergency, thanks.
[23:18] <newbme> can someone help me please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2248865
[23:21] <after_r> Hi... can someone please tell me how to turn off font anti aliasing in Ubuntu 14?
[23:21] <after_r> I want to disable it globally
[23:23] <after_r> is that option possible?
[23:23] <after_r> or is it hard coded to be turned on?
[23:27] <Anarchic> after_r, somewhere in the settings there is a calibration wizard for the fonts
[23:27] <after_r> no there isn't
[23:27] <after_r> i figured it out, theres a tool called gnome tweak tool that does it
[23:28] <after_r> but the problem is, Firefox still uses smoothed fonts
[23:28] <after_r> how can I turn that off in FF?
[23:30] <Freen0deAdmin> !ops
[23:31] <spycrab0> I think that i somehow broke my entire libc setup :/ ubuntu wants to update linux-libc-dev but always fails with the error that this is blocked by oss4-dev 4.2-build2007-2.1.
[23:31] <spycrab0> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64-bit.Any ideas?
[23:31] <after_r> got how i hate font smoothing shit
[23:31] <after_r> god*
[23:31] <reisio> Freen0deAdmin: why don't you go overthrow a government or something useful :p
[23:31] <reisio> after_r: :)
[23:34] <after_r> I solved it
[23:35] <after_r> you have to edit /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-antialiasing.conf
[23:35] <after_r> and change false to true
[23:35] <after_r> thats' what I call user friendly
[23:36] <reisio> after_r: :)
[23:36] <reisio> after_r: you know how to do it on other OSes?
[23:36] <Freen0deAdmin> hi
[23:36] <after_r> reisio: in windows, theres a checkbox
[23:36] <after_r> reisio: in OSX, its impossible
[23:36] <reisio> heh
[23:37] <reisio> Freen0deAdmin: hi again
[23:37] <Freen0deAdmin> hi
[23:37] <reisio> hi again
[23:37] <Freen0deAdmin> hi
[23:37] <reisio> hello
[23:37] <Freen0deAdmin> reisio, hi
[23:38] <reisio> 'lo
[23:38] <Freen0deAdmin> hi
[23:38] <Freen0deAdmin> reisio, hii
[23:39] <reisio> ohai
[23:40] <Freen0deAdmin> !ops | reisio
[23:40] <Jayjawn> Testiiiing can anyone here me out there!?
[23:40] <reisio> Jayjawn: maybe, what's it worth to you? :p
[23:40] <Jayjawn> Lol! Hear*
[23:41] <Jayjawn> Well I'm new to using irc's! Just wanted to make sure I was doing something right!
[23:42] <EriC^^> Freen0deAdmin: what a peculiar character O.o
[23:42] <Freen0deAdmin> EriC^^, hello
[23:43] <Jayjawn> I'll be back soon with questions!!!
[23:43] <Jayjawn> Byyyyee
[23:46] <newbme> can someone help please. i cant delete a file from my home folder
[23:47] <newbme> or i should say i cant delete a folder
[23:47] <EriC^^> newbme: sudo rm -r <directory>
[23:47] <newbme> i tried sudo nautilus and the folder does not appear in the home folder when i use that command
[23:47] <EriC^^> newbme: don't use sudo nautilus, use gksu for gui apps, gksu nautilus
[23:52] <newbme> so eric^^ it would be sudo rm -r home/wine/dosdevices/z:/run/razerd
[23:53] <SchrodingersScat> can you remove it from wine?
[23:53] <EriC^^> there's a leading "/" before home, and yes no idea about wine
[23:54] <newbme> so eric^^ it would be sudo rm -r /home/wine/dosdevices/z:/run/razerd
[23:54] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:55] <newbme> rm: cannot remove `/home/wine/dosdevices/z:/run/razerd': No such file or directory
[23:55] <newbme> do i need the dots?
[23:55] <EriC^^> type sudo find /home -iname "razerd"
[23:57] <newbme> /home/me/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3387526693/razerd
[23:58] <newbme> but the folder is still in wine directory
[23:58] <EriC^^> maybe you have to delete it in wine?
[23:58] <EriC^^> what do you mean it's still in the wine directory?
[23:59] <EriC^^> ls -l /home/wine/dosdevices/z:/run
[23:59] <newbme> it doesnt show up in wine, but the folder razerd is still in wine, but i cant delete it
[23:59] <EriC^^> shows the directory?
[23:59] <newbme> ls -l /home/wine/dosdevices/z:/run
[23:59] <newbme> ls: cannot access /home/wine/dosdevices/z:/run: No such file or directory


[17:11] <jfenn2199> afternoon everyone!
[17:36] <wrst> hello jfenn2199
[17:36] <jfenn2199> how goes wrst?
[17:38] <wrst> going well jfenn2199, how are you doing?
[17:39] <jfenn2199> doing well, was wondering has there been any discussion for the 12.10 launch party?
[17:47] <wrst> jfenn2199: not that I know of
[17:48] <wrst> jfenn2199: the mailing list seems to be a good place for that maybe if you would like to get something started?
[17:48] <jfenn2199> yeah we've been wanting to do a computer workshop here and since the next launch is around the corner what better time
[17:49] <wrst> sounds like a good idea
[18:19] <jfenn2199> hey how goes chris4585
[18:19] <chris4585> hey jfenn2199, I'm good, you?
[18:19] <jfenn2199> fairly well
[18:20] <wrst> good morning chris4585
[18:20] <wrst> ;)
[18:20] <chris4585> good, and yep
[18:27] <wrst> good email jfenn2199
[18:27] <jfenn2199> thanks wrst
[18:33] <wrst> wb binarymutant
[22:50] <binarymutant> ty
[22:50] <binarymutant> ty from 4 hours in the future :D
[23:36] <wrst> ha ha binarymutant


[07:33] <didrocks> kirkland: FYI, I uploaded a powernap fix for the upstart override ^
[11:22] <sil2100> Hello! I would need an archive admin +1'ing a version bump of media-hub packages
[11:22] <sil2100> https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-023-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/media-hub_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/ <- here is the CI Train packaging diff
[11:22] <sil2100> It basically renames libmedia-hub-common2, libmedia-hub-client2 to libmedia-hub-common3, libmedia-hub-client3
[11:23] <sil2100> The agreenment was that every binary package addition/rename (I think) needs approval from the archive admins
[11:25] <ogra_> sil2100, i'd ACK it ... but thats from my team :)
[11:25] <ogra_> looks totally sane though
[11:25] <cjwatson> ogra_: but you aren't in ~ubuntu-archive
[11:25] <ogra_> oops
[11:25] <ogra_> yeah
[11:25] <cjwatson> sil2100: diff looks OK but I prefer to check the actual generated binaries; doing that now
[11:26]  * ogra_ totally missed the channel :)
[11:26] <cjwatson> and yes, any package whose name wasn't previously in the archive requires approval, not inclined to change that.  hopefully we'll get the LP bug fixed soon that gives you a backdoor here
[11:27] <sil2100> :)
[11:27] <sil2100> cjwatson: thanks!
[11:27]  * sil2100 waits for the final ACK
[11:27] <cjwatson> sil2100: looks fine, go ahead
[11:27] <sil2100> Thanks again o/
[15:08] <kirkland> didrocks: thanks!
[15:08] <kirkland> didrocks: I'm still having some some systemd problems with dotdee, which isn't installing
[17:41] <arges> bdmurray: infinity: hey I just accepted this into -proposed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/1.78ubuntu23.1 for bug 1435663, but for some reason rmadison isn't showing it in -proposed, nor did sru-review update the bug appropriately. What got screwed up?
[17:46] <bdmurray> arges: I don't see anything obvious for either issue
[17:47] <arges> bdmurray: hmm... should I just manually comment to verify?
[17:47] <bdmurray> arges: all the other SRU bugs are getting updated right?
[17:48] <arges> bdmurray: yea others ones are working fine so far
[17:49] <bdmurray> arges: did the tab open for bug 1435663 when you were reviewing it?
[17:49] <infinity> arges: The rmadison thing is a lack of patience.  No idea about the bug comment.
[17:50] <arges> bdmurray: no the tab did not open, but I already had the bug open due to the previous package and the bug comment looked well formed
[17:50] <arges> infinity: ack. I'll wait it out a bit
[17:51] <infinity> arges: If you look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/1.78ubuntu23.1/+publishinghistory it's pending.
[17:51] <arges> ah didnt know about +publishinghistory that's pretty useuful
[17:51] <bdmurray> arges: ah, then for some the .changes file is mising Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed
[17:51] <bdmurray> s/some/some reason/
[17:51] <infinity> arges: It's linked from the page you linked to us. :P
[17:52] <infinity> arges: Directly above the builds, where you'd expect to see which pockets/releases it's in.
[17:52] <arges> 'View Publishing History' cool
[17:52] <bdmurray> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/201141747/grub-installer_1.78ubuntu23.1_source.changes
[17:52] <arges> and there it is in rmadison
[17:52] <bdmurray> ^- No L-B-F
[17:53] <arges> bdmurray: ok in the cases where there isn't a bugs-fixed should it be re-uploaded with that corrected?
[17:53] <infinity> Tell dannf to stop preparing his uploads on a Debian system. :P
[17:54] <bdmurray> arges: I think so, a fair number of things look for that
[17:54] <arges> ok i'll ask for a re-upload of those packages with proper LBF, and ask they be done in a proper Ubuntu schroot for that release etc
[17:55] <arges> bdmurray: infinity thanks guys
[17:55] <dannf> arges: infinity: ah - didn't know that broke things, sorry
[17:55] <infinity> arges: I'm not sure a reupload is worth it now that they're accepted.
[17:55] <arges> infinity: i think some of the other packages in that bug may have the same issue, need to check it
[17:55] <dannf> arges: all of them probably do - that's where i sign things
[17:56] <infinity> arges: Yeah, for the ones already in the archive, a no-op upload isn't worth the effort just to make some computers happier.  Humans can sort out if the bugs don't auto-close, etc.
[17:56] <arges> infinity: makes sense
[17:56] <infinity> dannf: genchanges on Ubuntu, scp to Debian and sign?
[17:57] <arges> dannf: libdebian-installer for trusty/utopic needs to be re-done
[17:57] <dannf> infinity: yeah, easy to do, just not something i knew was better
[17:57] <infinity> We don't actually carry changes to dpkg-genchanges, I'm wondering what this keys off of.
[17:57] <infinity> Probably dpkg-vendor.
[17:57] <arges> dannf: partman-auto for trusty/utopic too
[17:58] <arges> dannf: and partman-efi for trusty/utopic
[17:58] <infinity> Oh, in fact, LP-B-F only happens in Dpkg/Vendor/Ubuntu.pm
[17:58] <infinity> So, that explains that.
[17:58] <arges> dannf: i'll hold off on that for a bit and look at it after lunch
[17:58] <infinity> dannf: Yeah, do all your source package building on Ubuntu. :)
[17:58] <dannf> arges: is the "re-done" for L-B-F or something else?
[17:59] <arges> dannf: yea so adding the L-B-F was the only obvious thing I saw
[18:10] <arges> infinity: bdmurray : the other thing to ask (while you're here) is there some sort of MAAS Macro release Exception discussion I missed? looks like andreas wants to slam 1.7 into utopic/trusty
[18:11] <infinity> arges: There's a discussion ongoing, but no formal exception yet, so that one will be reviewed as a normal SRU.
[18:11] <arges> bug 1438428 <- seems really risky with all the changes (people will have to re-import images etc)
[18:12] <ScottK> Since when did really risky stop Maas?
[18:12] <infinity> arges: Or, rather, we'll review the 1.7->1.7.2 in utopic as a normal SRU, then verify that the backport to trusty looks vaguely sane, then they'll dilver a ton of testing to prove said sanity.
[18:14] <infinity> arges: Not happy about the "users will have to do manual things to upgrade" bit, though. :/
[18:14] <arges> Ok I'll skip it for now since there is ongoing discussion
[18:15] <ScottK> infinity: Isn't that normally a show stopper?
[18:15] <infinity> ScottK: It should be, yes.  I'll bring it up with them in said ongoing discussion.
[18:15] <ScottK> I sometimes feel like we might as well change the SRU rules to "Meh, whatever".
[18:18] <infinity> ScottK: Or, I could put my foot down, which I'm doing.
[18:18] <ScottK> I like that option better.
[18:19] <infinity> ScottK: The "new maas upstream versions in LTSes" was sabdfled, but only on the condition that the maas team met a set of requirements laid out by the TB and SRU people.  That's not happening here.
[18:20] <ScottK> I don't suppose there's anything that can be done to align their development schedule to the distro development schedule.
[18:20] <ScottK> It'd be nice to have one release without last minute Maas related flails.
[18:20] <ScottK> (i.e. plan on delivering the features before feature freeze)
[18:21] <arges> infinity: if it does break imported images etc, could we request a debconf prompt be added to let the user know how their system will break?
[18:22] <arges> or is that pretty pointless
[18:22] <infinity> ScottK: To be fair, their changes in vivid have been pretty sane, and not massive feature work.  It's the SRUing it back to trusty bit that's problematic.
[18:22] <ScottK> OK.
[18:23] <infinity> arges: If there's literally no other way out of it, angry user prompts might help.  But that's hardly the ideal.
[18:23] <ScottK> I thought I recalled seeing a standing FFe request from them.
[18:23] <arges> yea
[18:23] <infinity> arges: You'd think people familiar with the old and new data models could migrate from A to B for the user.
[18:23] <ScottK> arges: That's an abuse of debconf.  It's not a notification system.
[18:23] <infinity> NEWS.Debian is the right place for that, but it's still wrong.
[18:26] <infinity> Anyhow, commented on the bug, we'll see where it goes.
[18:42] <infinity> Riddell: Erm.  Since when does KDE own the generic-looking /usr/share/doc/HTML namespace?
[18:43] <infinity> Riddell: That looks entirely wrong.
[18:46] <Riddell> infinity: that's the upstream default in kde frameworks 5, it's been agreed with debian to use that
[18:47] <infinity> Riddell: ... seriously?
[18:47] <infinity> usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common/2.png <-- That's pretty horrible namespace pollution that isn't obviously tied to a package or a set of packages.
[18:49] <Riddell> that becomes /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdoctools5-common/ in frameworks, kde4libs will go away one day but in the mean time we should be compatible with it
[18:50] <infinity> I don't suppose you can s/common/kdelibs5-data/ and have it still work?
[18:51] <infinity> If you've checked that no other packages in the world overlap, and it's going to go away Very Soon, I guess it's not world ending, but it's pretty gross.
[18:51] <Riddell> not without risking breakage
[18:52] <Riddell> the next step is to upload 300 odd kdelibs4 apps to move the docs I'm afraid
[18:52] <infinity> And not to package namespaces?
[18:53] <infinity> I note that everything in the archive currently using that namespace uses /usr/share/doc/HTML/$lang/$package, which is fine.  All except for kdelibs.
[18:53] <Riddell> it will yes
[18:54] <infinity> Okay, yeah, apt-file shows me all the old stuff is namespaced fine, assuming they just remove the "kde" from their path.
[18:54] <infinity> The common thing bugs me, but there's no overlap, so I'll get over it. :/
[19:16] <infinity> mdeslaur: You sure seem to be enjoying tiff this week.
[19:17] <mdeslaur> infinity: *&*("?" PoS
[19:17] <infinity> mdeslaur: But how do you really feel?
[19:17] <mdeslaur> irc needs emoji
[19:18]  * mdeslaur makes all the neckbears cringe
[19:18] <mdeslaur> neckbeards
[19:57] <dannf> arges: so for l-d-i, partman-auto & partman-efi - did you want to reject those and have me reupload them?
[19:57] <arges> dannf: yea me reject
[19:58] <dannf> ok - will reupload proper source packages once i get the reject notifications
[19:58] <dannf> that way i can hopefully do one d-i build against proposed to verify the whole stack instead of franken-builds to verify the individual components
[19:58] <arges> dannf: ok rejected on my end
[19:58] <dannf> thx
[20:01] <dannf> arges: can you reject the utopic ones too?
[20:01] <arges> dannf: done
[20:01] <dannf> ta
[20:35] <arges> dannf: all set? I'll re-review those packages then
[20:35] <dannf> arges: yeap, thx


[00:14] <reel> ok im talking to this poor girl sun-flower atm, she really seems like a sweet heart, why you guys gotta ban for emo reasons man
[00:14] <reel> you should know better
[00:15] <Seeker`> reel: anything we can help you with?
[00:15] <Pricey> reel: I've discussed this with them for over an hour.
[00:17] <Pici> I too spent a separate hour with them
[00:47] <mneptok> i have the latest CD by Emo Reasons
[02:35] <MenZa> Question. #ubuntu-offtopic - the link. Is that within the rules of -ot?
[04:57]  * genii sips
[07:11] <genii> nekostar in #u is giving some dodgy advice
[07:13] <genii> On checking scroll most of it seems "ok" ... but I came in when he was recommending some user use sudo su -  for instance...
[08:22] <genii> MenZa: No one seems to currently have an answer to your question. Please don't idle here in thechannel
[11:34] <ikonia> MenZa: what link are you refering to ?
[11:37] <elky> ikonia, my scrollback shows some trolly kind of link of a deformed fake plastic MJ head alleging to be autopsy photos
[11:37] <ikonia> for some reason last nights logs have all but gone
[11:37] <ikonia> I wonder if irssi had a bender last night while sleeping
[11:39] <elky> probably
[11:39] <elky> either way it was wrong, but i wasnt even awake for another 3 hours
[11:40] <elky> MenZa, was there something else you needed from us?
[12:27] <phix> hey
[12:27] <phix> can i come in now?
[12:28] <phix> sir?
[12:28] <phix>  / madam
[12:29] <phix> <3
[12:42] <Tm_T> pfffft
[12:53] <Tm_T> Crissi: you can speak in #kubuntu now, just remember to behave there
[12:53] <Tm_T> you can go now
[12:54] <Tm_T> Crissi: if there's no other issues to talk here (see topic) then please leave
[13:00] <Mamarok> phix: do you need something?
[13:18] <Mamarok> Tm_T: this will go nowhere anyway, he/she doesn't listen to the support, the installation is totally borked, half 4.2.2, half 4.2.90, no good
[13:19] <Mamarok> I wonder how this even happened
[13:25] <Tm_T> 1441.59 < Crissi> i'm using kde since 1.0 beta1
[13:26] <Mamarok> right...
[13:26] <Tm_T> perhaps that's the reason?
[13:26] <Mamarok> phix: please do not idle here
[13:32] <Mamarok> Tm_T: thx :)
[13:32] <Mamarok> seems to be a new sport, idling
[14:56] <MenZa> elky→ No, I went offline. I pardon my idling.
[20:39] <RED300> hello
[20:40] <Flannel> Hi RED300, how can we help you today?
[20:41] <Flannel> RED300: I'd prefer it if you kept the conversation in this channel
[20:42] <RED300> hhello
[20:42] <RED300> hello
[20:42] <Flannel> Hi RED300
[20:43] <RED300> mgs
[20:43] <Flannel> RED300: I'd prefer it if you kept the conversation in this channel
[20:43] <RED300> ok can you un ban me
[20:43] <RED300> plz
[20:43] <RED300> plz
[20:43] <RED300> zplz
[20:44] <Flannel> RED300: Do you understand why you were removed from #ubuntu?
[20:45] <RED300> yes rushing
[20:46] <RED300> them i thick
[20:46] <Flannel> what do you mean rushing?
[20:46] <RED300> go faster you are to slow
[20:46] <RED300> like that
[20:47] <Myrtti> that sentence makes a limited amount of sense
[20:47] <Flannel> Well, from what I can tell that may have been a factor,
[20:47] <Flannel> but, really, you were just being offtopic in #ubuntu
[20:48] <RED300> ohhhhhh
[20:48] <Flannel> and then a little bit of flooding, which I suppose is your rushing.
[20:48] <RED300> ooooohhh sorry
[20:48] <RED300> forgive me
[20:48] <Flannel> RED300: do you understand what #ubuntu is for?
[20:49] <RED300> plz unban me
[20:49] <RED300> yes to help people
[20:49] <Flannel> Right, it's for technical support.  We have other channels if you're looking to chat.
[20:50] <Flannel> RED300: Or looking for help on other, non-ubuntu, issues, for the sake of completeness.
[20:51] <Flannel> RED300: In the future, don't repeat the same thing over and over, since no one likes that.  This isn't a chat in a game or something.
[20:51] <Flannel> (that's in addition to remaining on topic)
[20:51] <Flannel> RED300: Think you can handle that?
[20:54] <RED300> yes
[20:54] <Flannel> RED300: alright, just so we won't have any future issues, please take the time to read over our IRC guidelines, and let me know when you're done: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:59] <RED300> ok done
[21:00] <Flannel> RED300: alright, I believe I've removed the ban.  Please join #ubuntu to verify, and if there's nothing else we can do for you in here today, please part this channel.  Thanks.
[21:01] <RED300> ok
[21:03] <Flannel> bazhang: Did he say something in a query to you when you banned him or something?  All the BT shows is that he was removed, came back half an hour later and was removed/banned again (but doesn't show him saying anything)
[21:16] <Flannel> Weeeee
[22:02] <RED300> hello
[22:06] <tritium> !lgin
[22:06] <tritium> !login
[22:06] <tritium> heh, oops
[22:06] <tritium> @login
[22:07] <tritium> @btlogin
[23:50] <bazhang> Flannel, yes. he is letaris / Franklin-x4ce (late of asking for xfce on his sugar labtop) ban evading; this time asking for Ubuntu on his olpc labtop, and then given instructions, launching into the same offtopic, flooding
[23:51] <bazhang> I /msg'd him meanwhile, and he admitted it was him ban-evading (ie being franklin, etc.) at which time I asked him to leave #ubuntu
[23:52] <Flannel> bazhang: Alright.  In the future please mention these things in the BT, since it would've been nice to have known earlier
[23:53] <Flannel> He's already banned again in #u
[23:53] <bazhang> Flannel, it was the tail end of a *very* long day, and had not got around to it.