[05:52] <harlowja_at_home> ijw_,  guess u saw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85673 right?
[05:53] <ijw_> Yup, which I'm pleased to see and commented on
[05:53] <harlowja_at_home> cool
[05:53] <ijw_> He was taking this from the 'fix it in Openstack and they will come' approach but I think mainly cos he didn't know about the cloud-init group
[05:54] <ijw_> Either way, looked pretty okay; could do with a bit of refinement but I think he'll get there
[05:54] <harlowja_at_home> ya JoshNang found this channel (afaik thats the same josh, haha)
[05:55] <ijw_> It's at rev 13 and apparently I'm the only person with a -1 on it, which makes me feel bad, but I still don't think it'll fly in its current form
[05:55] <harlowja_at_home> smoser, when he gets back hopefully has some inputs on it
[05:55] <ijw_> Er, and I note that I was nagging you on there, so not only did I see it, I've been talking to you in the comments ;)
[05:56] <ijw_> (tl;dr: /etc/network/interfaces sucks and we shouldn't use it as a reference form)
[05:56] <harlowja_at_home> :)
[05:56] <harlowja_at_home> i had to write the /etc/network/interfaces translater in cloud-init so i know your pain ;)
[06:00] <harlowja_at_home> ijw_,  there i added my comment, better format == good ;)
[06:04] <ijw_> OK, and I've made the comments on routing (which is also throwing /etc/network/interfaces under the bus, but hey)
[06:06] <ijw_> I'm not sure I have a full mental picture of what's needed either, to be honest, I've just noted many weirdnesses of the interfaces format over time, and I'm way out of practice with the redhat way of doing things, which may be precisely the same or completely different (ditto Windows)
[06:07] <harlowja_at_home> eck multicast
[06:08] <harlowja_at_home> multicast bad
[06:08] <harlowja_at_home> * at least yahoo folks that i know say that
[06:10] <harlowja_at_home> forget why they say that though, haha


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[20:13] <mwhudson> adsys: whut
[21:55] <mwhudson> oh i think i see what's going on
[22:04] <mwhudson> jibel, doko: i think this is an upstream bug, disabling lto seems appropriate for now
[22:20] <mwhudson> https://github.com/golang/go/issues/45275
[22:20] <mwhudson> i have a simple change that fixes my test case, running full test suite now
[22:48] <mwhudson> https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/305290
[22:49] <mwhudson> figuring out what's going on: 10 mins
[22:49] <mwhudson> guessing a fix: 1 min
[22:49] <mwhudson> testing that fix helps: 2 mins
[22:49] <mwhudson> running full test suite: 10 mins
[22:49] <mwhudson> writing commit message: 1 hour


[01:14] <Etriaph> regedit: https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia
[02:32] <adonis_> ssssss
[05:21] <regedit> ksystraycmd does not exist?
[05:23] <regedit> i am getting this error http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-users/2015-04/msg00074.html
[05:29] <regedit> i have Kubuntu 15.04 with KDE Plasma 5.2.2, any reason ksystraycmd does not exist?
[05:31] <regedit> Bug: the Edit Applications offers an option to "Place in sytem tray", which tries to invoke ksystraycmd
[05:32] <regedit> problem: ksystraycmd does not exist
[05:34] <regedit> is there a new equivalent?
[07:52] <nexia> hey
[07:52] <nexia> lordievader: is this relevant to my issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221662
[08:00] <nexia> one of the posters in that thread also have a 'Dell 15 7000'...similar to mine
[08:00] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:01] <nexia> Oh, good morning!
[08:02] <lordievader> nexia: You were the one with the hybrid graphics and the black screen?
[08:02] <nexia> Yes.
[08:03] <lordievader> Did you install 331-updates?
[08:04] <nexia> nope, I'm kind of unwilling to downgrade :<
[08:04] <nexia> uh, oops, I mean: no, I didn't install that.
[08:05] <nexia> (and neither did I downgrade to 14.04 like you suggested previously, seeing as lightdm would possibly work better?)
[08:05] <lordievader> I never suggested that. I did suggest to switch to lightdm.
[08:07] <nexia> Then I probably mis-understood. I think it had something to do with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics 14.04 being as far as it would go on that page.
[08:10] <lordievader> True, but that doesn't mean that you need to downgrade. It simply means you follow something that might or might not be applicable to your version of the distro.
[08:10] <nexia> but 331-updates only works with lightDM ?
[08:10] <nexia> or can it work with SDDM too
[08:11] <lordievader> No idea, try it out ;)
[08:11] <nexia> wait, why haven't I tried that then already lol
[08:12] <nexia> thanks, will try it out next :P
[08:23] <BarnaSza1ai> hi
[08:24] <BarnaSza1ai> have a little problem with kubuntu/plasma 5. I had a system freeze, after that booting into Plasma I dont have a status bar, but black background
[08:24] <BarnaSza1ai> how to correct this?
[08:25] <BarnaSza1ai> on right click I dont have any menu popping up
[09:08] <nexia> lordievader, sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 didn't help ;-;
[09:09] <lordievader> How did lightdm fare?
[09:11] <nexia> didn't try lightdm yet
[09:11] <nexia> hmm....maybe 331-updates ..will work?
[09:11] <nexia> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221662&p=13233802#post13233802
[09:12] <lordievader> Perhaps. But do try lightdm. From what I've heard sddm has issues with hybrid nVidia graphics.
[09:12] <nexia> lightdm won''t ..not work with plasma 5 I hope? :(
[09:12] <nexia> won't*
[09:13] <nexia> 'sudo apt-get install lightdm' enough also? ^^
[09:13] <nexia> (I'm going to make lightdm default with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm' and change it to lightdm)
[09:14] <lordievader> What?
[09:16] <nexia> nevermind :P I see it's going to install a bunch of stuff, but whatever.
[09:16] <lordievader> Also, take a look at the logs for hints.
[09:16] <nexia> which 'logs' ?
[09:17] <lordievader> X, lightdm, sddm, syslog, etc.
[09:17] <lordievader> You are trying to get as much information about this as possible. Then from there you can make good conclusions in how to solve the problem ;)
[09:17] <nexia> ah..
[09:18] <nexia> Quite correct, yeah.
[09:20] <BarnaSza1ai> can I install Unity on Kubuntu 15.04 wo problems?
[09:20] <lordievader> BarnaSza1ai: Should be without problems. Though your menu's might clutter up.
[09:21] <BarnaSza1ai> ok thanks
[09:46] <nexia> lordievader: huge fail, after installing both lightdm and nvidia-331-updates I rebooted, and then the screen began flashing heavily.
[09:47] <nexia> like, constantly, every 2 seconds
[09:47] <nexia> I couldn't do ctrl+alt+f1 either, just kept flashing.
[09:47] <lordievader> When launching X or before?
[09:47] <nexia> after 'start 219' or whatever message that is
[09:48] <nexia> I guess after..?
[09:48] <lordievader> nexia: Try booting with the kernel parameter 'text'.
[09:55] <Elsah> ugh
[09:55] <nexia> sorry for that.
[10:05] <nexia> lordievader, well my question is, how can I get to a shell to do 'sudo apt-get remove nvidia-331-updates' ?
[10:05] <nexia> without..that screen flashing :s
[10:06] <lordievader> nexia: Bootup with the 'text' kernel parameter.
[10:08] <lordievader> Or with the 'single' kernel parameter.
[10:11] <thx> hy evry one
[10:11] <thx> hey evryone
[10:11] <thx> hr u?
[10:12] <lordievader> o/
[10:16] <nexia> lordievader: how would I do that? o.o
[10:17] <nexia> hm, nm, googling ;-)
[10:17] <lordievader> nexia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[10:26] <nexia> okay.
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:53] <alket> hi, how to install opensuse 13.1 kde theme in kubuntu 14.04 ?
[11:58] <amari> Hi are the 15.04.2 app updates gonna be backported to the Kubuntu backports PPA?
[12:28] <mokush> any updates on the spell-checking issues people were talking about yesterday?
[12:48] <amari> Hi are the 15.04.2 app updates gonna be backported for 15.04 in the Kubuntu backports PPA?
[12:51] <lordievader> I suppose when the Kubuntu developers get to it, yes. But don't quote me on it ;)
[13:09] <amari> lordievader: it's taking longer than usual this time :P
[14:15] <David1965> I will be switching to a new personal computer with an  AMD APU which combines both CPU and GPU into one package and 16Gbit memory and 2Tbits of Hard-Drive AND IT TURNS OUT THAT THE Motherboard doesn't use BIOS but UEFI will LM 17 MATE (Qiana) 64bit still install
[14:16] <lordievader> David1965: This is a (K)Ubuntu support channel. We do not support Linux Mint, ask around in #linuxmint for that.
[14:21] <genii> !mint
[15:34] <G__81> Hi i am using Kubuntu 14.04.2 and have all updates installed. I have a question regarding Alt+Tab behavior in work spaces. I have one window to another workspace and i want that window also to be listed in alt+tab and when i select that window it should automatically take me to Desktop 2. Is this possible in KDE?
[16:20] <excalibr> why does Konsole think linkified links that I clicked on terminal some kind of file
[16:21] <excalibr> I always get that Transfer dialog  when I click links
[17:08] <nadav_> hello ?
[17:09] <nadav_> Someone ?
[17:09] <BluesKaj> nadav_, hi, got a question
[17:09] <nadav_> Hi
[17:14] <EvilRoey>  shalom nadav_
[17:14] <nadav_> Hello, Can Some help me ? my sound is not working
[17:14] <nadav_> shalom
[17:43] <artlu> hi. as of today, my kubuntu 14.04 randomly freezes. sometimes the screen goes black after it freezes for about 10 seconds and recovers and then it's usable again, but sometimes it completely freezes and i have to hard reboot my computer. were there any updates recently which might cause this behaviour?
[17:44] <artlu> when it freezes, I can still move the mouse and every action gets submitted after it recovers from the freeze
[17:52] <ZeBigDuck> Hey! I installed a fresh gnome-ubuntu yesterday, and everything is working like a charm :D
[17:52] <ZeBigDuck> ubuntu-gnome in fact
[17:53] <ZeBigDuck> oh damned, didn't see I was in kubuntu... sorry, I didn't aim to troll :x
[17:54] <ZeBigDuck> Maybe I should go... :D :x
[18:11] <lordievader> artlu: Sounds like io-wait.
[18:12] <artlu> lordievader: how can I monitor io-wait when it freezes? are there any logs?
[18:12] <lordievader> artlu: vmstat ;)
[21:37] <amari> Should I enable EGL in Plasma 5 or GLX is more stable?
[21:37] <amari> compositor settings


[02:15] <xubuntu20w> Hi... I'm trying to install Xubuntu (latest version) on a notebook (HP Pavilion DV4000) by USB, but it looks like its doing nothing, the usb stick led is not blinking. On the screen it shows the "Install" window (says about support, this IRC channel, join community, etc) and the mouse cursor is a revolving circle...
[02:16] <xubuntu20w> Any ideas??
[02:18] <xubuntu20w> hehe... looks like it finished...
[13:05] <xubuntu37w> Frustrated, long-time xubuntu user here. Alt-F2 no longer works in 18.10, and I cannot disable touch-to-click on my touchpad. Although I can deslect the checkbox, the setting does not get saved. (both options worked in 18.04)
[13:05] <xubuntu37w> Clarification: they no longer work from a LiveUSB - I have not installed 18.10.
[18:24] <c0mrade> I've made an IRC bot that prints to a dot matrix Star printer on its serial port at ##robot, everything you type there is printed to it and it's on Live Stream on YouTube at https://youtu.be/zwRL5V0XWQY


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 Hello there

[06:02] <rafa> i got it running but the res was ALL FUCKED up.
[06:02] <rafa> working onfixing now.
[06:04] <guiverc> rafa, mind your language please.
[06:07] <rafa> oops sry, wont happ'n agn
[06:09] <rafa> brb
[06:57] <ciro> hi, I would like to take a look at the source code of Kubuntu's installer, where can I get it?
[07:03] <RikMills> ciro: https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity
[07:03] <ciro> RikMills: thanks!
 Hi, the application menu is not visible for applications after I upgraded to Kubuntu 20.04
 How can I get it back?
 This includes e.g. Kate and Dolphin
[08:31] <IrcsomeBot1> HosseinG110 was added by: HosseinG110
 hi there
 tday i install kubuntu and its working in command line interface but when i hit ctrl+alt+f1 ,graphic interface not working
 please help me
 @HosseinG110, its a black screen
[09:32] <franzopow[m]> Hi. I am trying to download qjackctl 0.6.3 from kubuntu repos but looks like it is not available. Instead I have this old 2017 version (0.5.1)
[09:32] <franzopow[m]> the latest version uses Qt 5. Is that the problem why I can't find it on the kubu repos?
[09:33] <franzopow[m]> I had to install app image version, instead
 @HosseinG110, Could you use graphical interface before?  … Try ctrl+alt+f1 to f7
[09:41] <franzopow[m]> Hi. I am trying to download qjackctl 0.6.3 from kubuntu repos but looks like it is not available. Instead I have this old 2017 version (0.5.1)
[09:41] <franzopow[m]> the latest version uses Qt 5. Is that the problem why I can't find it on the kubu repos?
[09:41] <franzopow[m]> I had to install app image version, instead
[09:42] <tomreyn> !latest | franzopow[m]
[09:42] <franzopow[m]> I didn't found anything in the ppas
[09:42] <tomreyn> franzopow[m]: which kubuntu version are you running there?
[09:42] <franzopow[m]> that's why I am asking here. I am on 20.04 Kubuntu
[09:43] <tomreyn> right, 20.04 provides version 0.5.0-1ubuntu2
[09:45] <franzopow[m]> Yes, it's the same since 2017. The latest 0.6 is stable, it's just that it is not updated on Ubuntu. Maybe it's because kubuntu has Qt 4?
[09:45] <tomreyn> if the newer version has a bug fix or feature you need, and you think many others will benefit fro it as well, you could post a bug report about this.
[09:45] <franzopow[m]> or am I wrong?
[09:46] <franzopow[m]> 0.5 = Qt4
[09:46] <franzopow[m]> 0.6 = Qt5
[09:47] <tomreyn> i think kubuntu 20.04 comes with qt 5.something
[09:48] <franzopow[m]> mmm so there's no real problem about that
[09:48] <franzopow[m]> how can I open a bug report?
[09:48] <tomreyn> !bug
[09:49] <tomreyn> "Kubuntu 20.04 LTS ships with Qt LTS 5.12.8": https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Qt_LTS_release
 @smhk1379, befor this i work with ubuntu and it was fine with f1
 @HosseinG110, Did that help?
[10:53] <franzopow[m]> <ubottu "If you find a bug in Ubuntu or a"> roger. I will compile a bug
[11:00] <franzopow[m]> I ran ubuntu-bug qjackctl but I can't add the reason why I am sending a bug report
[12:50] <Mamarok> franzopow[m]: this is unlikely to end in 20.04 as it needs a newer Qt version, wait for 20.10
[12:54] <Mamarok> mind you, Groovy also ships version 0.5.0, so you need to wait for eventual backports into 20.10 later on, as it depends on Qr 5.15, and Groovy has Qt 5.14.2
[12:57] <Mamarok> you can ask for 0.6.0 in Groovy, though
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:19] <IrcsomeBot1> <shuhao zhang> it should be event.reply i think.
[15:08] <amichair> help! I just tried upgrading form 18.04 to 20.04, upgrade aborted in the middle (some python error about missing tasks field), continued from terminal with apt, rebooted... now I see an unfamiliar login screen. When I click on the password input, before I can type anything, it all goes blank except for the mouse cursor. Now what?
[15:10] <amichair> oh, I just discovered if I continue typing anyway on the blank screen and hit enter at the end, then the login screen is visible oncd again, with the password supposedly written, but enter does nothing, it just sits there.
[15:12] <amichair> it's repeatable, i.e. every time I click on the password input field the screen goes blank, then I hit enter and it shows up again. but password is not accepted, cursor just keeps on blinking on the password input field.
[15:24] <tomreyn> amichair: you'll probably need to switch to y tty and complete the upgrade from there.
[15:24] <tomreyn> !tty | amichair
[15:25] <tomreyn> this would gather info on the state of your apt package manager:
[15:25] <tomreyn> sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[15:25] <amichair> tomreyn: apt update && full-upgrade completes successfully... what else left to do?
[15:25] <tomreyn> no warnings, no errors?
[15:26] <amichair> all good, nothing to do
[15:27] <amichair> I resumed the apt stuff before the reboot, it completed it, seemed ok
[15:27] <amichair> after reboot it just says there's nothing to do, all good
[15:27] <tomreyn> i assume you're confirming that there are no warnings.
[15:28] <tomreyn> install apt-fforktracer and use it to identify packages which should not be installed, or will need to have a third party repository enabled to gain an upgrade path
[15:28] <tomreyn> * apt-forktracer (single f)
[15:28] <amichair> indeed. I can't copy pase from the broken pc, but the usual 0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 to remove, etc.
[15:29] <tomreyn> you can pipe output into    nc termbin.com 9999    for sharing it
[15:30] <amichair> oh neat, didn't know about that
[15:30] <amichair> termbin.com/hwbb
[15:30] <tomreyn> i see a lot of "18.04" there
[15:31] <tomreyn> all the packages which are listed without [brackets] on theior line lack an upgrade path / an apt repository
[15:32] <tomreyn> looks like you had a lot of third party software installed when you started your upgrade. an unsupported situation, and probably the cause of its failure
[15:33] <tomreyn> some of these packages must be from pre-18-04 releases, based on their names
[15:33] <amichair> only a couple things are from external repos I think, all others from the standard repos iirc
[15:34] <amichair> could be, this pc has gone through several kubuntu upgrades over the years
[15:34] <amichair> is this related to not being able to perform a login, or unrelated package cleanup?
[15:35] <amichair> oh maybe the installer disabled some other repos that I need to re-enable?
[15:36] <tomreyn> sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999    would show which apt sources you have enabled now
[15:36] <amichair> oh, so maybe I did have a few more third-party repos configured :-)
[15:37] <amichair> maybe I need to manually edit the sources to this release name
[15:38] <tomreyn> i wouldn't know, got no info
[15:38] <amichair> yet still quite helpful ;-)
[15:42] <tomreyn> several of these packages date back to xenial (16.04), may have held back (security relevant?) updates all the time you were running 18.04.
[15:43] <tomreyn> yet others are from 14.04, i think
[15:51] <amichair> so what's the best course of action? uninstall all of them?
[15:54] <amichair> does anything here seem related to login or session manager or such?
[15:54] <tomreyn> either re-active your ppas, those which still support focal, and install the available updates and hope they're compatible
[15:54] <tomreyn> or purge the packages and their configurations
[15:55] <tomreyn> you're already far outside of what's supported, clean up first.
[15:57] <amichair> and after fiddling with the ppas etc. do I need to do anything else, or just reboot and hope for the best?
[16:00] <tomreyn> apt update && apt full-upgrade
[16:00] <tomreyn> + reboot + hope for the best
[16:00] <tomreyn> sometimes clearing out ~/.cache helps, too
[16:23] <amichair> tomreyn: following a hunch, I found that plasma-desktop was not installed! installed it, and now I can login
[16:23] <amichair> haven't looked for other side effects yet
[16:23] <amichair> but I am worried that it's possible other packages weren't install just as this one wasn't
[16:23] <amichair> how can I re-install everything that was supposed to be there during the upgrade?
[16:26] <tomreyn> apt install kubuntu-desktop    should get your all the components required for the kubuntu desktop
[16:28] <amichair> tomreyn: yeah that one I did, I was referring to how to find out all the other packages that were supposed to be installed and weren't, so I can make sure to install them as well
[16:28] <amichair> it's possible plasma-desktop was the only one that silently disappeared, but I'd like to be sure there isn't other stuff missing that will be less obvious to find
[16:30] <amichair> I assume the installer has a list of all the packages required in the release... any way to run it again, or get the list somehow?
[16:32] <franzopow[m]> <Mamarok "franzopow: this is unlikely to e"> I see, thank you Mamarok
[16:42] <tomreyn> amichair: i think thoese are the packages installed by the kubuntu 20.04.1 installer http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/20.04.1/release/kubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.manifest
[16:44] <amichair> tomreyn: thanks, do u maybe know of a way to check if any of them is not installed?
[16:50] <tomreyn> amichair: curl -s http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/20.04.1/release/kubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.manifest | awk '{print $1}' | xargs sudo echo apt -s -y install
[16:50] <tomreyn> untested. remove 'echo' and '-s' when you're happy
[16:51] <tomreyn> better run it with -s the first time
[16:55] <amichair> is that a dry run? can't find it in man page
[17:11] <amichair> yep, I see a bunch of other stuff missing, I recognize dolphin and a couple others that should probably be installed
[17:34] <amichair> tomreyn: ok ran it, got an error with samba missing some directories but googled a workaround... hopefully now it's all good
[17:34] <amichair> tomreyn: thanks for you time and help!!
[17:51] <IrcsomeBot1> amboulchouk was added by: amboulchouk
[18:33]  * franzopow[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/WnmOqYqSUrOhoLeqEZVdJmpZ/message.txt >
 (Photo, 127x127) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/EyfZae37/file_38059.jpg Hello, i have such problem. Can i get normal rounded corners?
[19:30] <tomreyn> amichair: you're welcome
[19:31] <Exousian> I want to try Kubuntu without installing on my PC. How to download and install kubuntu directly to a USB thumb drive.
[19:36] <tomreyn> Exousian: same as when you install to a fixed drive. you just set a different target when installing
[19:36] <tomreyn> if you have enough resources, you could also install to a vm.
[19:42] <Exousian> thanks tomreyn. I'll try it.
[19:48] <h1pot> I'm having a problem changing the default language of gimp in ubuntu 20.04, can anyone help me? i've installed gimp using default repositories
 Hello
[20:00] <tomreyn> hi
 I upgraded from Kubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 two days ago. … Desktop PC with  … Kernel: 5.4.0-52-generic x86_64  … bits: 64  … desktop: KDE Plasma 5.18.5  … Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS (Focal Fossa) … Intel Core i5-4670 … and 12GB RAM. … Now the computer is quite slow when using LibreOffice, Okular and Dolphin. Mouse movements are slow in parts, it takes several seconds to open the print dialog. Menu dialogues in LibreOff
[20:15] <tomreyn> waldbursche: some of your text was cut off here on irc after "Menu dialogues in LibreOff" << there
[20:15] <swift110> oh wow
[20:16] <tomreyn> waldbursche: run    journalctl -f    see if it keeps repeating error messages there
[20:16] <tomreyn> swift110: what's up?
[20:16] <swift110> im great man getting laundry done
[20:17] <swift110> tomreyn, im in offtopic as well bro
[20:17] <tomreyn> yes, looks like. ;-)
 @tomreyn, Menu dialogues in LibreOffice also start only partially after 2-3 seconds.
 Is this a known problem under 20.04 or would I first have to search for errors locally.
 Sufficient memory is available. The root partition still has 70GB free. … Does anyone have an idea? Thanks a lot
[20:18] <tomreyn> i very much doubt this is a generic problem
[20:18] <tomreyn> see above for what to try next
 Part 1 … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/49gSFKKQ2S/
[20:25] <tomreyn> waldbursche: let's see this instead:   journalctl -k | nc termbin.com 9999
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/n8mcqxfwhP/
[20:31] <tomreyn> hmm, not sure what you did to produce this log, but you didn't run the above command
 Sorry, forgot | ...
 https://termbin.com/dgyb
[20:35] <tomreyn> you have bios F5, but F8 is the latest (and probably last, too)
[20:35] <tomreyn> https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H97M-HD3-rev-11/support#support-dl-bios
 Okay
 Thanks
[20:37] <tomreyn> !mtrr | waldbursche
[20:37] <tomreyn> ^ you have this message on your log. updating the bios *may* fix it, so consider this first
 I try this
[20:38] <tomreyn> this is often also causing problems with the nvidia graphics performance as a side effect
[20:39] <tomreyn> note there are two hardware revisions for your board, and i don't know which one you have there, but firmware downloads seem to be the same
[20:39] <tomreyn> i mean bios updates
 I think so it's a problem with nvidia
 @tomreyn, Okay
[20:45] <tomreyn> waldbursche: your /dev/sdb is likely broken
[20:46] <tomreyn> Intenso SSD SATAIII, S0423B0, max UDMA/133
 @tomreyn, Hmmm, it's working
[20:48] <tomreyn> try cross-testing sata cables before you replace it, and testing it with smartctl, though
[20:49] <tomreyn> communication with it froze towards the bottom of the log you posted
 i see ... mmmh
[20:49] <tomreyn> the sata link was reset which made it work for now.
 okay
 I have just reconnected all SATA cables
 I think it looks better than before
 https://termbin.com/uzbk
[22:06] <cfaber> does anyone have any ideas why I'd be seeing a lot more I/O errors on NFS (soft, ver=3) mounts moving from 18.04.5 to 20.04.1
[22:06] <cfaber> this is a wifi connected client and my error rate seems to have gone up significantly
[22:07] <cfaber> server is the same old debian nfs I've had running for years


[02:37] <xsspants> So i had a bug with an AMD a4-5000 laptop where the backlight control in unity wasn't working.  I narrowed it down to the backlight being controlled by /sys/class/backlight/radeon_bl0/brightness             ...   value 1-255
[02:37] <xsspants> is there a way to fix the backlight control widget to aim to that value?


[19:15] <UbuBen> anyone here?
[19:17] <UbuBen> helloooooooo!
[19:17] <UbuBen> nothing but bots i guess
[19:36] <ububen> hi anyone alive here?
[19:44] <DJones> ububen: The channel doesn't have much discussion
[19:45] <DJones> If you need support, better asking in #ubuntu, if its general chat maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:56] <ububen> i tried #ubuntu, but didn't get an answer, i'll try the other option. How do I change to it from here? is there a command?
[19:57] <DJones> Use "/join #channelname"
[19:58] <ububen> thanks


 That is all.
[01:33] <Maik> all a matter of personal taste and experience :)
 oh
[02:58] <Maik> Swift110 better stop typing nonsense in these channels  ;)
[02:59] <Maik> you've been on irc for years so you should know that... just saying
 Hmm
[03:05] <Maik> exactly that's what i meant. If you want to poke fun or troll around do so in offtopic or elsewhere
 Fwd from Invictus1718: Needed to add Flutter SDK path somewhere in there, and since then it refuses to boot; login loop :/ … Trying to fix it by using shell and editing the etc/environment file but for some reason it shows as blank😑
 Fwd from Invictus1718: Thank you.... editing the environment didn't solve my problem though :/  … Still stuck at the same login loop. Tried adding another user and logging in but doesn't work either
 Fwd from Invictus1718: Is there another way I can boot? Or at least manage to salvage my files and do a fresh install thereafter?
[05:01] <Guest18533> hi
[06:44] <user|40943> Hello there, im a software developer who uses android studio trough the day. My computer have 16 gb of ram. When im Building projects the RAM usually goes to full usage and Kubuntu wont kill java processes. Which leads to system completly freeze and I have to hold the shutdown button on computer to restart it. I tried to increasing swap space but i
[06:44] <user|40943> t doesnt help. I think the main issue here is that Kubuntu wont close processes which take too much ram
[06:44] <user|40943> Any suggestion or help how to avoid this problem would help, thanks :)
[06:54] <diogenes_> user|40943, maybe try zram?
 @user|40943, Try using Ksysguard to manually kill processes I guess?
 @DarinMiller, Edit: thanks a lot, realised later I hadn't been updating the etc/profile which was causing the bootloop. Fixed now :D
[07:22] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:14] <user|40943> @IrcsomeBot
[08:14] <user|40943> @IrcsomeBot
[08:14] <user|40943> @IrcsomeBot Thats what Im doing now...I constantly have to check the RAM usage and its really hard to keep track on it while focused on coding. Killing processes is OS work not Users
[08:52] <Ching> i just wanted to ask if i m corrct
[08:53] <Ching> kubuntu is like kubuntu DE on top of ubuntu?
[08:53] <Ching> which means i get resposive kde with ubuntu?
[09:56] <blippitybloopy-4> I think Kubuntu also includes some more KDE software
 i might get homeless in 6,5 days so don't expect me to say much or being active in the community
[10:30] <bittin-M1> i might get homeless in 6,5 days so don't expect me to say much or being active in the community
[11:04] <isomari> greetings, how can i get the shutdown options on my logout screen? I'm only seeing the option to logout.
[11:31] <Aristide> Hello
[11:31] <Aristide> Do you know a usable repository for last version of Plasma5/KDE App for Kubuntu ?
[11:40] <Aristide> (Kubuntu 20.04)
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:54] <Aristide> Hi BluesKaj :)
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Hi Aristide
[14:26] <user|85548> Hi
[21:42] <locomad> hi


[15:21] <ikonia> has anyone spoken with rene_ ?
[15:22] <k1l_> imho just plain trolling to stirr up the channel
[15:22] <k1l_> Rene_> !how_to_disable_setting_the_clock_as_a_normal_user
[15:23] <k1l_> "i read that ubuntu is insecure so lets join the channel and start something" while not even knowing what that bug is about.
[15:30] <ikonia> it would appear that way


[05:27] <guruprasad> Since there is a recent release of Latte dock which fixes some issues, would it be possible to release it via the backports PPA so that folks can use it?
[07:19] <vboxuser_> sudo apt install update
[07:19] <vboxuser_> sudo apt install update
[07:19] <vboxuser_> exit
[07:19] <vboxuser_> exit
[07:20] <vboxuser_> resport
 hi. When I want to connect to remote desktop with krdc, I get a log record like this.
 qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 2381, resource id: 14739432, major code: 40 (TranslateCoords), minor code: 0
[16:23] <Roey> hi
[16:23] <Roey> I want to install Kubuntu on a laptop, with LUKS providing full-disk encryption to BTRFS on root and /home, and to a swap partition.  Can I set this up through the Kubuntu installer?
 can we get all updates time to time like ubuntu?
[17:43] <Guest61> can we get all updates time to time like ubuntu?
[17:49] <gaurabh> hi
[17:50] <arrayboltXE> @Gaurabh: Kubuntu gets updates just like Ubuntu does.
[17:51] <arrayboltXE> The only difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is the pre-installed packages and configuration are different, and the KDE components are in the Universe repo, which still gets updates, just not necessarily as reliably as the Main repo (where most of the core components are).
[18:00] <Guest39> how to install plymouth theme from kde store on kubuntu?
[18:10] <oerheks> some themes give a howto, like this one https://store.kde.org/p/1669265
[18:27] <gaurabh> how to get access root in dolphin?
[19:00] <user|33> I can't upgrade kubuntu 20.04 to 22.04
[19:18] <cbreak> it should be possible
[19:36] <mybalzitch> sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:36] <mybalzitch> oh they left
[21:10] <Roey> hello
[21:11] <Roey> My apologies if this has already been answered here before; I had to log off earlier.  Does Kubuntu's installer support installing BTRFS over LUKS on root, /home, and swap?
[21:16] <mparillo> I don't think by simple box-checking, but I believe you can manually partition your target device, and then point the installer at the partitions.
[21:22] <Roey> mparillo: thank you
[21:22] <Roey> what baout ULKS
[21:22] <Roey> *what about LUKS, can the Kubuntu installer set that up?
 /home@IrcsomeBot
[22:20] <cbreak> people actually use btrfs? :O
 I have scars from my openSuse days. =(
[23:07] <tonyw> Roey Yes, but it's not as easy as one might wish. The key is to first, select guided and encrypted, enter your password in the two boxes, then select manual. From that point, the installer works.
[23:08] <tonyw> BTW, I have not yet submitted a bug report. I am a bad user.
[23:10] <armin__> Hi, what is best KDE distro?
[23:19] <tonyw> armin__ I have used KDE on Debian (mostly), Fedora (some), and Kubuntu (less). Do you have a specific concern or issue? For example, do you want have two years of stability or the latest (maybe buggy) bits?
[23:39] <user|93> How to update change driver in kubuntu?
[23:44] <user|0> How to change driver in kubuntu
 Video driver?