[00:01] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, just update the lines, replace with 'saucy', then apt-get update. you might get a warning from some that their pcakges are not available for saucy, ignore it for now, and then apt-get upgrade
[00:01] <kostkon> daaamn
[00:01] <kostkon> alastor__, ^^^
[00:02] <izinucs> I just installed 12.04 64bit on an older quad core. I can boot into the desktop, click the menu and have it open.. it won't take any other input.  going to tty2 I get a message on screen "out of frequency" so I can''t edit any config files.. how do I resolv this?
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> that does not help to learn what should be done
[00:02] <OerHeks> or just test sudo apt-get update and use paste.ubuntu.com for the errors
[00:02] <OerHeks> alastor__, ^
[00:04] <Thursday> is there a lot of people on this channel because a lot of people are having problems and bugs with their Ubuntu?
[00:04] <izinucs> Thursday: no.. people do lots of different things and don't know everything about everything
[00:05] <kostkon> Thursday, ask the same question in #ubuntu-offotopic. this is strictly only for support
[00:05] <OerHeks> Thursday, having issues and wanting information
[00:05] <Hodapp> There being a lot of people in this channel, and there being a lot of people having problems/bugs with Ubuntu, are probably correlated, not causative. The causative factor is probably the number of people using Ubuntu.
[00:06] <OerHeks> lurking here is a good start
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> izinucs, I would update/upgrade and then check the additional drivers
[00:07] <kostkon> izinucs, did you use the latest 12.04.3 iso?
[00:07] <izinucs> wilee-nilee: can't do that because I can't see anything at the tty terminal screen and the gui stops accepting input
[00:07] <izinucs> kostkon: yes.. just downloaded it..
[00:07] <kostkon> izinucs, ok. just checkin
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> izinucs, try ctrl-alt-t for a terminal on the desktop
[00:08] <Tekno> No wire all gone
[00:08] <izinucs> wilee-nilee: tried ctrl+alt+f2 instead of using the gui and can't see anything.. Frequency out of Range..error
[00:09] <izinucs> wilee-nilee: ctrl-alt-t will open the terminal window but will not accept input
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> izinucs, I thought you had a desktop with some control IE the menu.
[00:09] <izinucs> wilee-nilee: only to the first click.. after that no additional input is accepted.
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> izinucs, you can run a update from the recovery terminal
[00:10] <izinucs> wilee-nilee: how do I get to that.. on boot right?
[00:10] <kostkon> izinucs, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> izinucs, You might just have a bad install, hard to say at this point.
[00:11] <izinucs> wilee-nilee: seems to be somewhat know, a grub issue with 12.04 .. might have to use a rescue cd to edit :(
[00:12] <izinucs> brb
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> izinucs, If this is a fresh install I would not mess with trying to fix it myself, I would confirm the sum of the iso and do another install, if you find errors.
[00:14] <kostkon> izinucs, also you could download 13.04 and compare the results. although, sticking with12.04 would be better as it is an lts release
[00:25] <raygus> can someone help with trying to get vaapi working in mythtv. When I attempt playback everthing freezes
[00:25] <iljuschin> thank you kostkon , for your advice and help! leaving now, good night/day! :)
[00:26] <iljuschin> Dr_Willis seems to have left already
[00:26] <kostkon> iljuschin, have a nice day/night. bye
[00:26] <iljuschin> bye
[00:26] <raygus> can someone help with trying to get vaapi working in mythtv. When I attempt  video playback it freezes
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> raygus, I see #mythtv-users you might try there as well.
[00:44] <anshin> has anyone used wmctrl?
[00:46] <Guest86943> hello which version do you recommend the 13.04 or 12.04?
[00:47] <kostkon> Guest86943, 12.04. Supported for 5 years until 2017
[00:49] <anshin> kostkon: how long will 13.04 be supported? I didn't know there had been a change
[00:49] <Guest86943> thank you kostkon
[00:49] <kostkon> anshin, only a few months left i think. support period is sort for it, only 8 months
[00:49] <Guest86943> what is the real difference?
[00:49] <qin> !13.04
[00:50] <Guest86943> i see no one..
[00:50] <sadcat> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   097   097   000    Old_age   Offline      -       123
[00:50] <sadcat> buy a new drive?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> sadcat, What does the smart check in disks say?
[00:51] <honestly> support period for 13.04 won't end before 13.10 is released, will it?
[00:52] <Tex_Nick> honestly: no
[00:52] <sadcat> long test says read failure
[00:52] <sadcat> there are 62 ata errors and 120 reallocated sectors
[00:52] <sadcat> i think this drive is going to die
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> sadcat, I would not use it myself.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> honestly, The bots links have those answers.
[00:55] <sadcat> so i need to buy a new one and hope that the raid can be restored without an error
[00:57] <Tex_Nick> sadcat : i've been using a 2.5" WD 360GB drive ... that SMART says is likely to fail ... on the grandkids box for about a year now without problem ... wilee-nilee's advice is more than wise though !!!
[00:58] <rypervenche> sadcat: Replace the drive ASAP and backup anything that is important.
[00:58] <sadcat> the data on the storage is not that important. i  dont care a lot about a few TB of movies
[00:59] <sadcat> but since the values of other disks of the raid are not that good i'll better replace it
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> If you have backups of what you want to save you can do anything really, covering your booty is the goal.
[01:03] <kostkon> sadcat, dont care about TBs of movies? wow
[01:04] <OldTexas> Last night a feller gave me a name of a file to go for help with a wireless card n' I done up n' fergot what it was.  Dishwasher or somethin' like that.
[01:04] <kostkon> !ndiswrapper | OldTexas
[01:05] <sadcat> my internet is fast enough to download all of them in a week or so
[01:05] <kostkon> sadcat, nice
[01:05] <kostkon> sadcat, how fast
[01:05] <sadcat> 10MB/s up and down
[01:05] <kostkon> sadcat, ie ~100mbits?
[01:05] <OldTexas> ndiswrapper!!!  Thankie.  Gotta admit, it kinda sounds like "diswasher" :)
[01:06] <sadcat> yes
[01:06] <kostkon> sadcat, nice nice
[01:06] <sadcat> the problem is to collect all the uploaded/[whatever oneclickhoster] links
[01:06] <kostkon> sadcat, i always keep some in a text file ;)
[01:07] <kostkon> OldTexas, it does, but just a little bit
[01:07] <sadcat> the first thing i should do is to ls -alR the mountpoint
[01:08] <kostkon> sadcat, good idea
[01:16] <belkinsa> Is there a way to have PluseAudio to remember what volume level you had headphones plugged in after you disconnect them?
[01:18] <kostkon> belkinsa, you could try installing pavucontrol and setting the volume level for your headphones from there
[01:18] <kostkon> belkinsa, because in the ubuntu volume settings you can only change the master volume
[01:19] <kostkon> ubuntu sound settings*
[01:19] <kostkon> belkinsa, your headphones need to be connected to do that
[01:25] <snine> @search colin mochrie
[01:26] <Dragin> where should I go for 13.10 help for running an apache server?
[01:26] <dragan> im having problem installing g++ in ubuntu 13.04
[01:27] <Dragin> did you try sudo apt-get install g++?
[01:28] <Dragin> Apparently there are no helpers in here =(
[01:28] <dragan> yes
[01:29] <dragan> and i got ths The following packages have unmet dependencies:  g++ : Depends: g++-4.7 (>= 4.7.2-1~) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[01:29] <belkinsa> Just wait, someone will come and help you.  In the meanwhile, check the forums and ask Ubuntu.
[01:29] <kostkon> Dragin, #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <Dragin> been doing that for a couple of days now, belinska, but thanks =)
[01:30] <belkinsa> Okay, just keep waiting. You will get your answer.
[01:30] <Dragin> err... belkinska too ;)
[01:31] <Dragin> been having typos for days =(
[01:31] <belkinsa> If you have the question on ask Ubuntu, I can bump it up for you.
[01:31] <belkinsa> It's cool.
[01:31] <belkinsa> Wait, is that allowed?
[01:31] <Dragin> no, I have plenty of time. Been working the learning curve lol
[01:32] <belkinsa> New user of Ubuntu?
[01:32] <Dragin> yes, and no
[01:32] <Dragin> new user that decided to get serious because I have made some headway lol
[01:33] <Dragin> not new user because I have been tinkering with it since 8.xx
[01:33] <belkinsa> I understand.  I'm the same.  I'm using it for four years now and just now i'm starting to get back into the community.
[01:33] <belkinsa> Tinkering it, I might soon.
[01:33] <belkinsa> As for*
[01:33] <Dragin> I used to be good with DOS... back when Windows was still in its infancy... 3.11 ;)
[01:34] <belkinsa> Same here!  I was very young when my family had 3.1.
[01:34] <Dragin> I watch a lot of Nixie Pixel on YouTube. She's hot and smart ;)
[01:34] <green_geeky_dude> I wasn't so young "sniffle"
[01:34] <Dragin> me either lol
[01:34] <Dragin> 49 here ;)
[01:34] <Dragin> I is an old fart ;)
[01:35] <green_geeky_dude> LOL not yet
[01:35] <Dragin> lol
[01:35] <belkinsa> I think I was four to eight when we had it.
[01:35] <belkinsa> So, 1995-1998?
[01:35]  * Dragin does some quick calculations...
[01:35] <green_geeky_dude> <- hides under the desk while he burns his birth certificate
[01:36] <ThalinVien> !offtopic
[01:36] <Dragin> \/me caries the 3, and subtracts the five...
[01:36] <belkinsa> Sorry, ThalinVien for going off topic.
[01:36] <green_geeky_dude> my bad
[01:36] <derrik> i cant remember how to identify to chanserv
[01:36] <derrik> help?
[01:36] <Dragin> sounds about right belkinsa ;)
[01:37] <ThalinVien> derrik: /msg nickserv help identify
[01:37] <belkinsa> identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[01:37] <derrik> thanks!
[01:37] <Dragin> type .msg NickServe Identify <password>
[01:37] <Dragin> just like it said ;)
[01:37] <fungoat> What's everyone using for a podcatcher?
[01:38] <lapt0p_> How to recover from a person you would die for?
[01:38] <belkinsa> !offtopic
[01:38] <lapt0p_> hahaha, just kiddin :)
[01:38] <falktx> I just found out one thing that works in irc that is kinda a secret
[01:38] <falktx> if you write ".pw password" your password gets like ***
[01:38] <falktx> let me try...
[01:38] <OldTexas> Well, I found the driver n' a install.sh.  I can hear the cluckin' but I can't find the nest.  Made a drivers directory n' opened i up in there.   ///home/thid/n'/that/install.sh   then tried it with file: ///ect...  Won't crank.
[01:38] <falktx> .pw *******
[01:39] <falktx> ha! works!
[01:39] <FloodBot1> falktx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <Dragin> I somehow locked my server so that it won't let me access localhost =(
[01:41] <OldTexas> Honest, I'm 'bout as confused as a termite in a yoyo.
[01:42] <Dragin> I have chmod 755 /var/www -R, then rebooted, but no help. then I chmod 777 /var/www -R and still no go
[01:42] <Dragin> any ideas anyone?
[01:42] <DEdesigns57> hello all, is this the main ubuntu channel
[01:42] <DEdesigns57> ?
[01:42] <belkinsa> Yes, for support.
[01:42] <Dragin> seems to be
[01:43] <DEdesigns57> awsome thx
[01:43] <DEdesigns57> just installed this OS
[01:43] <belkinsa> And your question is?
[01:43] <falktx> Dragin: shouldn't "-R" come before the path?
[01:43] <belkinsa> And welcome to the world of Ubuntu.
[01:43] <Dragin> Ubuntu is by far the best and easiest distro I have used... and I have tried a LOT of distros! lol
[01:44] <Dragin> tbh, I really don't know falktx. The web site I saw showed it last
[01:44] <falktx> Dragin: I've always used it before the path and it works for me
[01:45] <Dragin> ok. I will try that and see what happens. thanks falktx
[01:45] <falktx> Dragin: perhaps using "sudo chown user:user -R /path" is an option too?
[01:45] <Dragin> I did the sudo... kinda figured that was a given ;)
[01:45] <superjoe> I filed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreplaygain/+bug/1225557
[01:45] <superjoe> not sure if it's on topic in this channel, but just wanted to check if anyone knows anything relevant and could give hints
[01:46] <belkinsa> Mainly on what?
[01:46] <superjoe> libreplaygain (package included in ubuntu's repository) seems to be giving me bogus values
[01:46] <Dextrome> Hey peeps. I gotta a slight problem. I needed to have my laptop power on tomorrow morning to wake me up. I set it up in the BIOS, and set it to log me in automatically, disabling my password and setting it to auto-log in under the User Account settings. But now my old password that I would use for authenticating things (like installing an alarm clock app) won't work, and I can't unlock the User Account settings to fix it
[01:46] <belkinsa> Like what?
[01:47] <superjoe> like 0
[01:47] <dragan> i just changed sftware sources from serbia to main server and got 200 mb of updates i hope that i will be able to install build-essentials and g++ after update
[01:47] <superjoe> no matter the input
[01:47] <belkinsa> Have you read the doc for the program?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> Dextrome, disabled your password?
[01:47] <OldTexas> Question... I got this wireless card, got the drivers for Linux from Realtek, created a drivers directory offa the Home directory, unzipped it in there and sure enough, there's a install.sh, but I'll be danged if I can come up with the command to use the file...
[01:47] <superjoe> belkinsa, at least 8 times
[01:47] <Dextrome> wilee-nilee, yes
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> not a good idea
[01:48] <Dextrome> wilee-nilee, I only needed it to wake me up in the morning, but now I can't authenticate anything
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> Dextrome, not sure of a fix.
[01:49] <Dextrome> wilee-nilee, ha, oh well. I've been wanting to do a new clean install anyway. Thanks anyway
[01:49] <OldTexas> Is it sudo /dir/dir/dir/install.sh?
[01:49] <Dragin> I typed sudo chmod 755 -R /var/www, it went to next line... (after pw of course...) then I typed sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart tp restart the server... Still getting the You don't have permission to access / on this server when I try going to localhost or the actual web site =(
[01:49] <bwayne> OldTexas: the command is the install.sh file itself. you'll want to 'chmod +x install.sh' to make sure it's executable. Then 'sudo ./install.sh' if you're sure you want to install it.
[01:49] <cipherboy> Hey, in Cinnamon running on Ubuntu 13.04, any tips and tricks to getting extensions to work? I have logged out and logged back in twice since enabling two different extension and it still has not applied.
[01:50] <OldTexas> by gotcha, and thanks.  One last question, what is the change directory command in Linuz
[01:51] <OldTexas> by gotcha, and thanks.  One last question, what is the change directory command in Linux
[01:51] <kostkon> !cinnamon | cipherboy
[01:51] <Dextrome> wilee-nilee, you know anything I can do to install this alarm clock app that I stll neep installed?
[01:51] <kostkon> :/
[01:51] <bwayne> OldTexas: 'cd <directory_name>'
[01:51] <belkinsa> ./cd is the command
[01:51] <OldTexas> duh...
[01:51] <belkinsa> ;)
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> cipherboy, This cinnamon from ubuntu or a ppa?
[01:51] <OldTexas> Sorry guys  That was funny.  TY
[01:51] <cipherboy> Ubuntu
[01:51] <bwayne> OldTexas: no duh's. We're not here to duh you.
[01:52] <belkinsa> lol
[01:52] <belkinsa> Don't worry, we have those moments.
[01:52] <OldTexas> bwayne,  I'm an old DOS dog tryin' to learn new tricks :)
[01:53] <reisio> sed s@\\\\@/@
[01:53] <genii> OldTexas: You might find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal useful
[01:53] <bwayne> OldTexas: you may find this helpful. http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html
[01:53] <kostkon> OldTexas, at least some commands are the same, e.g. cd
[01:54] <reisio> IME DOS users know about five of those DOS commands :p
[01:54] <Dextrome> wilee-nilee, I fixed it with the passwd command
[01:54] <bwayne> reisio: I doubt that. I've seen some pretty advanced bat files.
[01:55] <reisio> bwayne: for DOS and not Windows?
[01:55] <OldTexas> bwayne Bless you...  the ROSSETA STONE!!
[01:55]  * Dragin is an Old DOS dog too... Also a TEXAN and Proud of it =)
[01:55] <bwayne> reisio: for pre-NT era Windows.
[01:55] <OldTexas> dragan, there ya go :)
[01:56] <reisio> :p
[01:56] <bwayne> OldTexas: no prob
[01:57] <bwayne> i suppose speaking of posh scripts is verboten.
[01:59] <OldTexas> Are directory names case sensitive?
[01:59] <bwayne> OldTexas: you'll find that the linux shell is extremely powerful and flexible. far more so than DOS or CMD.
[01:59] <bwayne> OldTexas: yes
[01:59] <jrib> OldTexas: yes
[01:59] <Dragin> yes
[01:59] <kostkon> OldTexas, y
[01:59] <OldTexas> cool
[01:59] <kostkon> !tab | OldTexas, just a tip
[02:00] <bwayne> OldTexas: the filesystem itself is case-sensitive. foo and foO are different.
[02:00] <OldTexas> Hmmm... like doskey
[02:01] <Hodapp> ugh, doskey.
[02:01] <OldTexas> bwayne, that could be very handy
[02:01] <OldTexas> Hodapp, LOL :)
[02:01] <LrdArc> i can't connect to wifi with this description --> http://pastebin.com/vzLMUrDa
[02:01] <LrdArc> i used wifi card Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100
[02:02] <OldTexas> ls
[02:02] <OldTexas> oops
[02:02] <kostkon> OldTexas, no, dir
[02:02] <kostkon> :P
[02:02] <Dragin> I typed sudo chmod 755 -R /var/www, it went to next line... (after pw of course...) then I typed sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart tp restart the server... Still getting the You don't have permission to access / on this server when I try going to localhost or the actual web site =(
[02:03] <kostkon> OldTexas, dir woks too, just doesn't do any highlighting or something
[02:03] <Dragin> ls is the Linux dir DOS command ;)
[02:04] <cheshircat> -> Dragin try verifying the perms with ls -l in the var directory
[02:04] <bwayne> dir --color
[02:04] <kostkon> bwayne, nice
[02:04] <OldTexas> Yah, ls has purdy colors :)   Had and old dos program like that called hotdir, with colors.  Got it off a Big Blue Disk.    I am a newb...  I THINK I understand.
[02:05] <cheshircat> no, just make sure you're in the /var directory
[02:05]  * nevyn had 4dos back in the day
[02:05] <Dragin> that is what I thought lol
[02:05] <Dragin> thanks
[02:05] <Dragin> brb
[02:05] <nevyn> OldTexas: ^^
[02:06] <Dragin> NICE little command that! ;)
[02:06] <OldTexas> bwayne indeed... dir --color looks just like ls
[02:06] <nevyn> ls --color
[02:06] <cipherboy> So anyone have suggestions on cinnamon or not?
[02:06] <cheshircat> I actually think it might be chmod -R 777 /var/www, not 777 -R
[02:06] <cheshircat> or 755
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> cipherboy, What are these extensions you speak of?
[02:07] <cheshircat> also, on ubuntu you should use services, not daemon scripts --> sudo service apache2 restart
[02:07] <cipherboy> Coverflow Alt-Tab and Wobbly windows, both off of the cinnamon extension site.
[02:07] <OldTexas> nevyn,  ever use desqview :)
[02:08] <Dragin> This is saying that folder is root access, correct? drwxr-xr-x  3 root 4096 Sep 14 20:46 www
[02:08] <Dragin> if so, EVERYTHING says root =(
[02:08] <Dragin> ok
[02:08] <cheshircat> hmmm
[02:09] <bwayne> OldTexas: you can find out just about everything about a command by reading its man page. 'man <command>'
[02:09] <Dragin> should I pastebin that stuff?
[02:09] <OldTexas> Wow, command line cut n' paste.
[02:09] <Dragin> it is about 15 or 20 lines
[02:09] <nevyn> OldTexas: know what it was never used it...
[02:09] <OldTexas> cool beans bwayne
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> cipherboy, I did not know they had added extensions, must be the gnome-shell extensions tweaked, not sure myself of the problems, you might as in a mint channel as well.
[02:10] <cheshircat> for ls -l, just the permissions on /var/www are fine, the rest doesn't matter
[02:10] <public> wasup
[02:10] <cipherboy> Thanks, will do.
[02:11] <Dragin> ok... Except if you go to my web site, I think you'll get a 403 Forbidden error
[02:11] <cheshircat> first make sure it isn't port forwarded, then try to chmod to 777
[02:11] <Dragin> it IS port forwarded
[02:11] <cheshircat> ah
[02:11] <Dragin> that is bad?
[02:11] <cheshircat> then setting write access is a bad idea
[02:12] <cheshircat> YOU'RE good
[02:12] <OldTexas> nevyn,  at one time, many, many years ago, on a planet far far away... No, wait, that's another story.   A few years ago I had an 8 line RBBS BBS with and Artisoft lan and two lines per PC with Desqview.   Nor for the web site... try it?
[02:13] <cheshircat> try chowning /var/www to www-data
[02:13] <cheshircat> I'm to lazy to man the chown command, so you'll have to figure out the syntax yourself
[02:14] <cheshircat> the apache2 process should run as the user www-data
[02:14] <crocket> When I move a mouse cursor in video players in fullscreen mode, unity appeared on top for a short time.
[02:14] <crocket> I found a workaround for this issue.
[02:14] <crocket> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1156327/comments/4
[02:14] <Dragin> sudo chown  /var/www  /var/www-data?
[02:14] <b0x> chown -R www-data:www-data /home/$USER/public_html;
[02:14] <cheshircat> no, www-data is a user
[02:14] <Dragin> never seen a chown with other than numbers
[02:14] <cheshircat> chown is different than chmod
[02:15] <crocket> Does anyone experience the same issue as I did?
[02:15] <cheshircat> man it
[02:15] <usr13> Dragin: Why not just serve from a /home/user directory?
[02:15] <Dragin> doh!
[02:15] <b0x> find /home/$USER/public_html -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[02:15] <b0x> find /home/$USER/public_html -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[02:15] <b0x> etc
[02:15] <Dragin> sorry... I just realiuzed that was a chown and not a chmod lol
[02:15] <usr13> Dragin: apache follows symlinks by default.
[02:15] <usr13> (easier solution)
[02:15] <cheshircat> but that wouldn't solve a permissions issue
[02:16] <usr13> cheshircat: What?
[02:16] <cheshircat> his issue is with a 403 error
[02:16] <usr13> cheshircat: What do you mean?  It's not a user that accesses them?
[02:16] <OldTexas> compile make error 2   pfft
[02:17] <Dragin> usr13 actually that is what I want to do... still figuring this out. Old mind and VERY rusty... Needs a bit of axle grease ;)
[02:17] <cheshircat> now I'm confused, why would pointing the apache2 daemon at a home directory fix a permissions issue?
[02:18] <usr13> Dragin: Try it and see.  mkdir /home/Dragin/public_html  ; sudo ln -s /home/Dragin/public_html /var/www/site1 ;  cat /home/Dragin/public_html/index.html [Enter] <html>Hello world!</html> ; firefox localhost/site1
[02:19] <dragan> as i taught after changing sftware sources from serbia to main server im able to install build-essential
[02:19] <usr13> Dragin: It works, trust me.
[02:20] <usr13> Dragin: By default your directories will be 755 and files 644 and that will work for  you.
[02:20] <Dragin> thanks =)
[02:20] <cheshircat> well, sorry I lead you down the wrong track
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys im having a wierd problem my wifi says im connected
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> but im not getting internet
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> but oin my other computer the net works fine
[02:21] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do to fix this? its wierd
[02:22] <ahow628> @psil: Are you using DHCP or are you assigning IPs?
[02:22] <usr13> Dragin: Directories will be drwxrwxr-x and files will be -rw-r--r--
[02:22] <usr13> ... which is default....
[02:22] <fm> heey
[02:23] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: route -n   #Do you see your gateway router's IP?
[02:23] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[02:23] <Psil0Cybin> i do
[02:23] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #Do you again see your gateway router's IP, or a valid nameserver?
[02:23] <belkinsa> FM, you have a question?
[02:24] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: host av.com    #To test your ability to resolve domain names.
[02:24] <belkinsa> Does anyone know if the app "Radio Tray" is still being developed?
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> name server <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> search home
[02:24] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS>    #To test your ability to ping a nameserver.
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> !enter | Psil0Cybin
[02:25] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[02:25] <Psil0Cybin> no
[02:25] <Psil0Cybin> 3 packets transmitted 0 recieved 100% packet loss
[02:25] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Really?   Are you using a proxy server?
[02:25] <Psil0Cybin> no...
[02:26] <Dragin> I type this... ~public_html -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; and I get this... ln: accessing ‘ype’: No such file or directory
[02:26] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Can you ping the router's IP?
[02:26] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: ping -c3  <IP_ADDRESS>   #Or what ever the router's IP is.
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> no not successfully
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> it does not pin
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> ping but the internet will start working randomly
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> and then disconncet again
[02:26] <belkinsa> !enter
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> :S
[02:26] <belkinsa> (sorry, had to!)
[02:27] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: ifconfig |grep Bcast   #What IP do you have?
[02:27] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: What does it say after "inet addr:"
[02:28] <Psil0Cybin> Bcast: <IP_ADDRESS> Mask: <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:28] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: (Is it an IP that is in the same subnet as your router?
[02:28] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Is this a wireless connection>?
[02:28] <Psil0Cybin> well my router ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:28] <Psil0Cybin> and its a wireless connection
[02:28] <Psil0Cybin> and i think so because its all one router.
[02:29] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: iwconfig    #What is link quality?
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> it was working before but i installed samba and after that this happened, it will sayt im connected....internet will work ill start downloading but my downloads stop
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> so i freaked out uninstalled samba
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> and same problem, but before this never happend
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> Link Quality 70/70
[02:29] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: I do not know why samba would make a difference.
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> Signal level =-26dBm
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> thats why im confused usr13
[02:30] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: What is the IP of your router?
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> how this happend all of a sudden
[02:30] <usr13> Oh, never mind.
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:30] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: So you can not ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> no :S
[02:30] <K1rk> Anybody feel like a friendly game of Wolfenstein Enemy Territory? :)
[02:30] <K1rk> I've got a few people on.
[02:30] <K1rk> It runs on Ubuntu!
[02:30] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: I don't know then.  Mabye power-cycle the router.
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> you think it can be the router?
[02:31] <belkinsa> !offtopic
[02:31] <belkinsa> To K1rk
[02:31] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: What did I just say?
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> but my other computers work fine
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[02:31] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: I don't know then.  Mabye power-cycle the router.
[02:31] <K1rk> belkinsa: yeah I suppose.
[02:31] <K1rk> lol
[02:33] <ahow628> Anyone know how to uninstall the update-manager gui? I have an underpowered laptop and only want to use CLI to update as GUI locks up intermittently.
[02:35] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: If that doesn't work, you might try rebooting the Ubuntu PC.  (Could be that the routing tables have somehow become corrupted.) (You never know.)  One other thing I can think of is that the WiFi device may have gone haywire.  Is it very close to the wireless-router?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> ahow628, It's gotta be part of a meta group, just don;t use it, maybe try a light desktop.
[02:36] <ahow628> @wilee-nilee: Ok, thanks. I was hoping to dump it but oh well.
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> ahow628, You can tab complete nicks here, be careful with just picking at the desktop.
[02:37] <sixpks> hello
[02:37] <belkinsa> Hello,
[02:37] <sixpks> I am looking for some guidance on Upstart
[02:38] <belkinsa> Question?
[02:38] <bwayne> ahow628: you can click on 'Settings' you can choose to never check for updates.
[02:38] <usr13> sixpks: Ok,  What do you need to know?
[02:38] <sixpks> I have 4 services running on my ubuntu 12.04 lts box
[02:38] <ahow628> wilee-nilee: Ah, very nice on the tab complete. I might switch to xfce. I did never check, but when I 'apt-get update' the window pops up.
[02:38] <sixpks> Mysql, mongo,tomcat7 and apache2
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> ahow628, lxde/lubuntu is even lighter
[02:39] <sixpks> I see that mongo and mysql have conf files in init-- So I can add the respawn line in there
[02:39] <sixpks> so that they can resatrt when ever they crash
[02:39] <usr13> sixpks: If you do not keep all one one line, your information will be fragmented up and down and will be hard to follow what you are saying.  (Don't use Enter for punctuation.)
[02:40] <usr13> sixpks: service
[02:40] <usr13> sixpks: See;   man service
[02:40] <ahow628> wilee-nilee: It is a CR-48 with Chromebuntu completely removed and Ubuntu only. Unity runs ok, but I think lxde might be overkill (underkill?)
[02:40] <usr13> sixpks: Why would *they* crash?
[02:40] <sixpks> OOM
[02:40] <ahow628> wilee-nilee: *chromeos I mean.
[02:40] <usr13> sixpks: What does OOM mean?
[02:41] <sixpks> out of memory error
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> ahow628, ah, I see.
[02:41] <Dragin> sudo chown -R jeff /var/www:jeff /home/jeff/public_html;
[02:41] <usr13> sixpks: Can you give an example?  (of a service)
[02:41] <ahow628> wilee-nilee: Thanks for the help. later.
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> see yah
[02:41] <Dragin> if that is correct syntax, this is what it gives me...
[02:42] <Dragin> chown: cannot access ‘/var/www:jeff’: No such file or directory
[02:42] <Dragin> and I KNOW /var/www is there
[02:42] <sixpks> @usr13 -Mongodb
[02:42] <usr13> sixpks: I'll give *you* an example.    service cups status   #Will tell you the status of the service "cups"
[02:42] <Dragin> I am assuming that jeff (in this case) is user$
[02:43] <usr13> sixpks: service cups stop    #Will stop the service "cups"
[02:43] <usr13> sixpks: service cups start    #Will start the service "cups"
[02:43] <usr13> sixpks: .... catching on yet? .....
[02:43] <sixpks> usr13
[02:43] <sixpks> I understand the Service
[02:43] <sixpks> I use it allready
[02:44] <usr13> sixpks: What is your *real* question?
[02:44] <sixpks> the problem is that , I wnt to the services to start on thier own , when ever they crash
[02:44] <cheshircat> they're daemons; they should do that already
[02:44] <Dragin> that goes to the init. doesn't it?
[02:44] <Dragin> init.d that is
[02:44] <sixpks> I want MONGO and TOMCAT and Apache2 to start on thier own if they ever crash
[02:44] <usr13> sixpks: Most services don't "crash"
[02:45] <usr13> sixpks: How whould they crash?
[02:45] <sixpks> For us mongo has been crashing and stopping- the logs show "Out Of Memory"
[02:45] <cheshircat> well, there's your problem!
[02:45] <cheshircat> are you on a dedicated server, or vps?
[02:46] <Dragin> How can I log this file so that I can reboot then find the help I have been getting again?
[02:46] <usr13> sixpks: The problem is this;  If something made a service crash, that something will need to be done away with before it could be restarted.
[02:46] <usr13> sixpks: If you have a memory problem, you will need to fix the memory problem.
[02:46] <sixpks> Yes dragin
[02:46] <Dragin> Memory Leak sixpks?
[02:47] <bwayne> Dragin: what irc client are you using? most of them keep a log.
[02:47] <Dragin> pidgin
[02:47] <usr13> sixpks: Or, if you have a leak, you will need to fix it.
[02:47] <sixpks> yes the application is not well built- so we have a few memory leaks
[02:47] <phix> hey
[02:47] <sixpks> What do u thi8nk about respawn in Init
[02:47] <usr13> sixpks: You will need to fix it or find a version that does not have the problem.
[02:48] <cheshircat> I think your problem does not lie in restarting the process when it fails, rather just make sure it doesn't fail
[02:48] <phix> Is there a configuration file or similar that I can set how I want dual monitors to be setup automatically when one is plugged in?
[02:48] <bwayne> Dragin: not sure where pidgin keeps it. Check the preferences for pidgin.
[02:48] <usr13> sixpks: What is giving you the problem?
[02:48] <sixpks> MONGODB
[02:48] <sixpks> lack of Swap space- was crashing the MONGO
[02:49] <phix> I am using the properiatary NVIDIA drivers, when I plug in a HDMI cable is auto sets up in extend mode with the laptop monitor being tothe left of the plugged in monitor, I want to swap the default around so the laptop monitor is on the right and the plugged in monitor to the left
[02:49] <Dragin> just did a locate pidgin... tons of stuff, but easier for me to find out where they hid the logs ;) Thanks bwayne =)
[02:49] <wylde_> !logs | Dragin ;)
[02:49] <miceiken> Hi. So I just ran a apt-get install on pptpd and set it up according to whatever guides I could find. I'm not able to connect from my computer (not on the local network), when I check syslog it says: pppd[8094]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such file or directory - is this related?
[02:50] <bwayne> Dragin: now you have two places to find the log. ;)
[02:50] <usr13> sixpks: What version of mongodb  do you have?
[02:50] <Dragin> thanls lol
[02:50] <Dragin> thanks even
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> so wierd does anyone else have any idea on how i can diagnose a wifi connection that shows that its connected but really only lets me browse a few sites until it cannot reach any website?
[02:50] <usr13> sixpks: Lack of whap space?  So, how large is your swap partition?
[02:50] <usr13> sixpks: sudo fdisk -l
[02:50] <wylde_> Psil0Cybin: sounds like a dns issue to me.
[02:51] <bwayne> wylde_: thanks for that. didn't realize Ubuntu kept a log themselves. Nice.
[02:51] <usr13> sixpks: sudo fdisk -l  | pastebinit   #And show us URL
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> wylde_: but it was working before, last night how can i fix a DNS issue, everything is set to automatic
[02:51] <wylde_> bwayne: it's handy at times :)
[02:51] <phix> Psil0Cybin: sounds like something is filtering it
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> to get all information from my router.
[02:51] <OldTexas> I am an old DOS who is starting to tinker with Linux more and more.  Just to get off on a good foot since I will be using it intensively, which terminal is the most popular. I have been using the default Cntrl-Alt-T in Ubuntu, but there seems to be a multiplicity of choices out there.
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> phix: but it works here
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> and there
[02:51] <belkinsa> Got your answer, Dragin?
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> so its notbeing blocked...
[02:51] <cheshircat> phix: nautilus manages the desktop currently, so you have to use tweak tool to make it not, and then there is an app that allows you to set backgrounds for multiple displays
[02:51] <phix> Psil0Cybin: you have a firewall setup on your network?  or a filtering proxy or anything liek that?
[02:52] <wylde_> Psil0Cybin: wireless controller dying perhaps?
[02:52] <cheshircat> I forget what it is called
[02:52] <sixpks> swap space is 8gb
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> no i was using a VPN a few days ago
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> but it was still working perfectly fine after then
[02:52] <Dragin> still working on it belkisa
[02:52] <Dragin> thanks though
[02:52] <usr13> sixpks: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[02:52] <bwayne> wylde_: my #ubuntu log in irclogs is 1.1M only after a couple of days.
[02:52] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[02:52] <Dragin> belkinsa too.... damned typos =(
[02:52] <phix> cheshircat: ok so it is nautilus that is extending the monitor by default when it is plugged in?  or the NVIDIA drivers?
[02:52] <wylde_> bwayne: this channel gets extremely busy sometimes :)
[02:52] <rscnt> join to #archlinux-newbie now!
[02:53] <cheshircat> nvidia shouldn't have anything to do with it
[02:53] <phix> cheshircat: basically I need to use the nvidia-settings application to reverse the screens around, but I would like to set it to the current position by default
[02:53] <sixpks> 12.04lts
[02:53] <OerHeks> rscnt, you forgot the /
[02:53] <bwayne> wylde_: going to have to check if irssi has an option to trim the logs.
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> wylde_: if the wireless controller was dying would it be working, here and there but still state its connected
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> just not be able to actually use it?
[02:53] <rscnt> ah no
[02:53] <rscnt> im saying you to join!
[02:53] <cheshircat> when I did multiple displays, I nevery had to worry about drivers
[02:54] <phix> cheshircat: well something has to tell natualis that another monitor was plugged in
[02:54] <usr13> sixpks: So you have Ubuntu 12.04 server edition installed?
[02:54] <sixpks> yes
[02:54] <usr13> sixpks: How much RAM do you have?
[02:54] <OldTexas> bwayne, any recommendations on a good terminal package?
[02:55] <bwayne> OldTexas: terminal package? not sure if i follow what you mean.
[02:55] <usr13> OldTexas: What do you mean by terminal package?
[02:55] <wylde_> Psil0Cybin: possibly.
[02:55] <sixpks> 4
[02:55] <sixpks> 4gn
[02:55] <OldTexas> Terminal program, seems to be a ton out there and thought I'd get soemthing to master.
[02:56] <bwayne> OldTexas: do you mean which shell to use, as in bash vs csh vs ksh, etc?
[02:56] <miceiken> Hi. So I just ran a apt-get install on pptpd and set it up according to whatever guides I could find. I'm not able to connect from my computer (not on the local network), when I check syslog it says: pppd[8094]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such file or directory - is this related?
[02:56] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Did you try rebooting the Ubuntu PC.  (Could be that the routing tables have somehow become corrupted.) (You never know.)  One  thing I can think of is that the WiFi device may have gone haywire.  Is it very close to the wireless-router?
[02:56] <kostkon> bwayne, other terminal apps
[02:56] <OldTexas> No, like cntl-alt-T in Ubuntu has a defauth terminal, but I seen tons of options.
[02:57] <OldTexas> kostkon, TY, I really weasn;t being clear.
[02:57] <Little_Shira> hey guys :)
[02:57] <Psil0Cybin> yea usr13 i tried rebooting :S how wierd is this...i even tried deleting the wifi preferences off the computer and readding them
[02:57] <sixpks> exit
[02:57] <usr13> sixpks: apt-cache policy mongodb  |pastebinit
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> and it connected to the network fine, the internet worked i went to google and to yahoo
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> then the sites stopped working :S
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> like i could tell i am not recieving packets
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> but before i was because the graph on my top panel showed a spike
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> in packets
[02:58] <bwayne> OldTexas: gnome's terminal (what you get with cntrl-alt-t) is a great terminal. tilda is a good "drop-down" menu for giving a quick command or two.
[02:58] <belkinsa> !enter
[02:58] <usr13> OldTexas: What are you looking for?  (Larger screen?  Different fonts?  .... ???)
[02:59] <kostkon> OldTexas, check out guake https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/guake/
[02:59] <usr13> OldTexas: What options?
[02:59] <OldTexas> usr13,  no, just a standard most people are using.
[02:59] <usr13> OldTexas: Do you ever use console mode?
[02:59] <usr13> OldTexas: Or is that an option?
[02:59] <willows1> OldTexas: I like the default. LXTerminal is kinda nice too
[02:59] <usr13> OldTexas: (tty6)?
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> usr13: right now again its working but in 3 minutes
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> it wont again
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> im so confused
[03:00] <usr13> OldTexas: Or do you really need / want a GUI terminal?
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> how i can diagnose this lmao
[03:00] <OldTexas> <[03:01] <zykotick9> urxvt (aka rxvt-unicode) works well for me, but i don't know how beginner friendly it would be...
[03:01] <OldTexas> usr13,  a GUI terminal may be interesting.
[03:01] <usr13> OldTexas: Try a console:  Ctrl-Alt-F6  #Login, try it out, Alt-RightArrow to come back to GUI.
[03:01] <phix> ok
[03:01] <phix> any other ideas?
[03:01] <phix> Where is the default settings kept?
[03:01] <bwayne> OldTexas: I've used a few terminals. Believe me. The default is a great one. Ubuntu chose a nice, user-friendly terminal. I see what zykotick9 recommended (rxvt) used often, but be prepared to configure.
[03:01] <Little_Shira> can anyone help me out with a little porblem, please? I can not change the brightness on my asus X55A :/
[03:02] <usr13> OldTexas: (Alt-RightArrow or  Ctrl-Alt-F7  to come back to your X-Session.)
[03:02] <phix> Little_Shira: What's that? a laptop or a monitor?
[03:02] <Little_Shira> a laptop
[03:02] <zykotick9> usr13: technically it's just alt+f7 ;)  the ctrl is only required when in xorg
[03:03] <phix> fn+F5 or F6 doesn't work? (I am assuming F5 anf F6 control the brigtness, it does on my SUS :))
[03:03] <phix> ASUS*
[03:03] <Little_Shira> it wont work with the linux os
[03:03] <usr13> zykotick9: Really?
[03:03] <phix> Little_Shira: works on mine :)
[03:04] <phix> Little_Shira: The only thing that doesn't work on mine if the keyboard backlight brightness, it is either on or off
[03:04] <phix> s/if/is/
[03:04] <Little_Shira> under windows it works fine... i have tried setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=FF
[03:04] <usr13> zykotick9: What are *you* using?
[03:04] <Little_Shira> but it wont change
[03:04] <zykotick9> usr13: yes.  alt+F1-F? when in linux console.  what am i using for what?
[03:04] <phix> Little_Shira: What does google say anbut it?
[03:05] <phix> about*
[03:05] <usr13> zykotick9: Oh yea, Alt-F7   I see.  Thanks
[03:05] <belkinsa> !google
[03:05] <Little_Shira> i can edit grub, use xbrightness but nothing helped ._.
[03:06] <phix> belkinsa: oh, I didn't know
[03:06] <usr13> zykotick9: So when in tty6-tty7 you can advance up or down with Alt-Right-or-Left arrow, or choose with Alt-F#  (I stand corrected.)
[03:06] <usr13> zykotick9: So when in tty1-tty6 you can advance up or down with Alt-Right-or-Left arrow, or choose with Alt-F#  (I stand corrected.)
[03:06] <Little_Shira> but, is here anyone who can speak german? that would be much easier for me to understand ._. *laughin*
[03:06] <rscnt> join to #archlinux-newbie
[03:06] <phix> belkinsa: although I wasn't telling him to use it, I just asked what it said, I was under the impression he would of attempted to research the problem first before asking in this channel
[03:06] <usr13> (*correction*)   ^^^^
[03:07] <bazhang> rscnt, stop that
[03:07] <rscnt> why?
[03:07] <kostkon> Little_Shira, is your monitor an oled one? because there is this
[03:07] <kostkon> !info asus-oled-dkms
[03:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu-de Little_Shira
[03:07] <zykotick9> usr13: you got it.  but my consoles "go to 11" (12 for x) ;)
[03:07] <phix> rscnt: advertising other IRC channels in irc channels is frown apon
[03:07] <phix> rscnt: unless it is an affiliated channel
[03:07] <Little_Shira> kostkon: it is a laptop... the x55a is an ASUS notebook
[03:07] <phix> rscnt: That is IRC 101 :)
[03:07] <rscnt> frown apon?
[03:08] <bazhang> !ot | rscnt
[03:08] <kostkon> Little_Shira, yeah, i just asked about the type of display the laptop has
[03:08] <bwayne> don't ustle rscnt's jimmies.
[03:08] <phix> rscnt: yes, as in, discouraged
[03:08] <rscnt> im banned from #ubuntu-offtopic :(
[03:08] <bwayne> cuz he ain't even mad
[03:08] <bazhang> lets move on please
[03:09] <kostkon> Little_Shira, or maybe that oled display is just a little thingie on the laptop chasis ok
[03:09] <phix> Yeah that happened to me once, apparantly you can be offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic too :)   yes lets move on, I still want to know what file controls default monitor placements
[03:09] <Little_Shira> kostkon: it is with led backlight, a standard-model
[03:09] <kostkon> Little_Shira, ok
[03:09] <usr13> zykotick9: Well, my system is default, (only tty1-tty7)
[03:09] <phix> bazhang: Do you know which file controls default monitor placements?
[03:09] <zykotick9> usr13: ya, that's "normal" ;)
[03:09] <usr13> zykotick9: So you are not  "normal"  ;)
[03:10] <zykotick9> usr13: i doubt many others like console enough to bother to change the default... so probably not ;)
[03:11] <usr13> F1-F7 is enough for me.
[03:11] <belkinsa> !enter phix
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> usr13: like again i tried to download a 500mb file on that laptop and it was working til 100mbs and then stopped
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> and now isnt recieving anymore packets
[03:11] <belkinsa> phix: !enter
[03:11] <belkinsa> !enter
[03:11] <Little_Shira> kostkon: i rebooted my laptop right now, now it is on max brightness and i am unable to dim it ô.ô
[03:11] <kostkon> Little_Shira, i understand your pain :/
[03:12] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Strange
[03:12] <Little_Shira> my laptop is hateing me QwQ
[03:13] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[03:13] <phix> belkinsa: Yes, my bad :)  I will attempt to stop myself from doing something that is just natural for me.  There we go, I am learning :)  So do you know anything about default monitor placements in ubuntu?
[03:13] <Little_Shira> but i have the same problems on debian, arch, fedora, suse...
[03:13] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: Or just cat it
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> says
[03:13] <usr13>                    me
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> networkmanager[879]: <info> activation (wlan0) stage 4 cf 5 (IPv6 Configure timeout) complete
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> above that
[03:14] <bwayne> i laugh with every new entry in my fail2ban log.  /evil laugh
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> IP6 addconf timed out or failed
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> and then the stage 4 error is showed twice
[03:14] <usr13> !paste
[03:15] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: So, why is it trying to use IPv6?
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> i have no idea
[03:16] <Psil0Cybin> under IPv6 Settings
[03:16] <Psil0Cybin> on my wifi settings
[03:16] <Psil0Cybin> the moethod is on automatic
[03:16] <Psil0Cybin> but it is also like that on my other laptop with xubuntu that is working fine which i am using now
[03:16] <Psil0Cybin> because if i tried to use my other laptop id disconnect every couple of seconds
[03:16] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: I don't know, but looks like a good clue there.  Google it and see.
[03:17] <usr13> Psil0Cybin: And do not use Enter for puncuation. Okay?
[03:17] <usr13> (Use complete sentences.)
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> sorry. I am trigger happy. Yes i am going to try and google it thanks @ least for pointing me in the right direction.
[03:20] <crocket> "export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0" kills global menu in most applications.
[03:20] <crocket> But nautilus ignores UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 and just shows its menu in the global menu.
[03:20] <crocket> How can I supress nautilus global menu?
[03:22] <alastor__> what will the next LTS version be?
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> alastor__, 14.04...
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> !14.04
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> !LTS
[03:23] <Ari-Yang> alastor__, I think it's going to be released in April next year...
[03:23] <alastor__> Ari-Yang: i see. thanks
[03:23] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[03:25] <backbox> x
[03:25]  * bwayne won't be upgrading until 2014. :0
[03:26] <usr13> Ari-Yang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[03:27] <Ari-Yang> usr13, thanks, but I have no need for that link... alastor__ you might be interested in it though
[03:30] <phix> hmmmm, ok so any way, I plug a HDMI cable into my laptop, the second monitor comes up in extend mode but I have to move my mouse to the right of the laptop screen to get to it instead of the left hand side, how do I change the placement by default?  so when I plug it in again I can move my mouse to the left to get to the monitor instead of the right?
[03:35] <HoChile> not much going on here...
[03:35] <Ari-Yang> HoChile, for offtopic you could join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:36] <Onixs> chill on that
[03:37]  * bwayne say goodnight
[03:38] <phix> lol, why am I still banned from #ubuntu-offtopic?  I thought that was cleared up months ago, actually more liek a year ago now
[03:40] <bazhang> phix, #ubuntu-ops not here
[03:41] <phix> bazhang: sorry
[03:41] <Ari-Yang> [23:36:38] <Onixs> chill on that --> was that directed to me?
[03:41] <Ari-Yang> if it is, I don't get it :|
[03:44] <Mace268> is there a way to check my base installation? I removed a package and removed what was it said no longer needed. I'm pretty sure it broke things because I had to reinstall unity and python outside of the gui to get this far and have no terminal, update manager, and i'm sure others are missing.
[03:45] <dr_willis> install the ubuntu-desktop package Mace268  that should pull in all the default stuff
[03:46] <Mace268> ok thanks dr_willis i'll try that now
[03:47] <mernilio> Hi all! I had my first intvervention today. Mum and dad t hought i drink to much...
[03:47] <mernilio> I did not worry to much tho! :-)
[03:47] <Mace268> dr_willis, should i remove what i manually installed and let ubuntu-desktop pull them instead?
[03:48] <dr_willis> I dont know what you installed
[03:48] <Mace268> unity and python
[03:48] <dr_willis> unity is installed by default as is python
[03:48] <mernilio> it worrows me with ppl here calling themself for doctors. :-/
[03:49] <mernilio> Like John Wayne Gacy.. killer clown...
[03:49] <Tex_Nick> !offtopic | mernilio
[03:49] <Mace268> i thought that but does it matter how the deps are pulled in?
[03:50] <mernilio> oki.. i just wanted to alert everybody here not to trust a "doctor" on the internet!
[03:50] <Mace268> dr_willis is trustworthy here mernilio
[03:51] <phix> ok so I take it no one knows the answer to my question or wants to assist me?  Or should i come back at another time?
[03:51] <dr_willis> dont feed the trolls Mace268    :)
[03:51] <Tex_Nick> if you're refering to dr_willis ... he's one of the finest people on this channel!!!
[03:52] <Mace268> xD ok
[03:52] <phix> Tex_Nick: That's debatable :)
[03:52] <mernilio> Mace268: i have seen lots of horrormovis with dr_willis and his cave...
[03:52] <dr_willis> phix:  with?
[03:52] <phix> dr_willis: The question I have been asking for the last hour
[03:53] <dr_willis> and ive been here 5 min
[03:53] <phix> dr_willis: refering to what file I edit to control the default placement of monitors when I plug one in via HDMI
[03:54] <phix> dr_willis: I have tried adding a config entry into xorg configuration file however it then expects the monitor to be there at all times, I just want to setup a default so if I happen to plug a monitor into the HDMI port it will set it up to the left of my laptop monitor instead of the right
[03:54] <dr_willis> phix:  I recall one in the users home. saved by the display  settings tool.  but it might be from my nvidia settings tool also
[03:55] <phix> dr_willis: I am using nvidia-settings tool to manually set the placement.
[03:55] <dr_willis> im not on a ubuntu box to check. but I recall  setting my nvidia once and it remembering.
[03:56] <phix> ok thank you
[03:56] <dr_willis> I use a pc monitor and a hdmi tv most of the time
[03:56] <dr_mernilio> dr willis seems like a kewl guy! :-)
[03:56] <dr_willis> I plyg in the tv and it benomes a upper monitor
[03:57] <phix> Yeah, I have a 27" LCD which I plug my laptop up to sometimes, very useful especially when programming, one screen to program the other for reference material or testing output.
[03:57] <dr_mernilio> dr_willis: is it okay for me as an adult to wear a hoodie with sculls on it?
[03:58] <dr_mernilio> say yes!!
[03:58] <dr_willis> stick to hello kitty please.
[03:58] <qin> hehe. KO
[03:58] <dr_mernilio> :-)
[03:58] <phix> haha
[03:59] <phix> dr_willis: Do you mind if a private message you for a sex?
[03:59] <phix> sec*
[03:59] <phix> sorry
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> lol
[03:59] <SchrodingersScat> way offtopic
[03:59] <phix> yeah tell me about
[03:59] <phix> it
[03:59] <dr_willis> heh.. sure
[03:59] <Morph4me> Wouldn't xrandr do --output --left of --right ...then save to script /etc/X11 ?
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> phix, your Freudian slip is showing. ;)
[04:01] <dr_willis> xrandr used to not work with the nvidia drivers.  it may work these days
[04:01] <cjwelborn> kde-desktop asks me when I plug the hdmi in, and then remembers it if I want. If i could only get the sound to automatically switch too.
[04:01] <Morph4me> ok dr_willis
[04:01] <phix> wilee-nilee: you don't know half of it
[04:03] <qin> cjwelborn: probably with alsa-control you can.
[04:04] <cjwelborn> k, i need to look into that. streaming videos with my hdmi plugged into a 37" tv is awesome. I just hate setting it up every time.
[04:04] <Mace268> thanks dr_willis that got me p and running again, seems lftp-gtk is a bad package to try and install. It caused all this and caused autoremove to delete a lot of core packages
[04:06] <qin> !info lftp-gtk
[04:09] <Mace268> still finding more and more needing a reinstall
[04:09] <dr_willis> more what
[04:10] <Mace268> packages that were removed, just had to reinstall flash
[04:11]  * xangua hates flash
[04:11] <ocooel> Anyone have a hack for Gwibber that allows adding Google+?
[04:13] <xangua> ocooel: isn't now called friends¿ in 2010¿ it supported the microbloging thing of google back in 2010
[04:15] <ocooel> xangua: I can't find a client called friends..?
[04:21] <kichigai> Hey all, I'm trying to dual-boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu, but Windows 8 has created an NTFS EFI partition. This guide isn't exactly the clearest on how to fix that issue (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI). Does anyone have anything to help me out?
[04:21] <Dragin> what would be the command to print a file from the CL?\
[04:22] <kichigai> It's a hand-built machine, so there's none of that SecureBoot !#%! in the way.
[04:23] <GeorgeTorwell> does anyone know why bazhang was appointed to op this channel?
[04:23] <GeorgeTorwell> pm me
[04:23] <dr_willis> Dragin:   "lpr" perhaps
[04:23] <Valentina-123> hi guyz, my ubuntu movie player doesn't play vcd and dvd videos .... how can I fix it ?? Somebody plz help me !!
[04:24] <dr_willis> ! dvd
[04:24] <Valentina-123> But how can I fix it ????
[04:24] <kichigai> Valentina-123, read the page, it'll say what to do there.
[04:24] <kichigai> I think.
[04:25] <Valentina-123> let me try..
[04:25] <parallels> hello all
[04:25] <Valentina-123> hi
[04:27] <wylde> Dragin: I  suppose you could try 'lpr -P YourPrinter /tmp/someFileName'
[04:27] <Dragin> thanks dr_willis. Sorry it took me so lomg. I missed your answer =)
[04:27] <Dragin> thanks wylde
[04:28] <dr_willis> the cups  docs may tell other ways Dragin
[04:28] <SinCos> anyone tried eve online with latest wine in ubuntu? any luck?
[04:29] <bazhang> !appdb | SinCos
[04:29] <GeorgeTorwell> is bazhang still opped in here?
[04:29] <kichigai> He is now.
[04:29] <bazhang> SinCos, check the appdb, then join #winehq
[04:29] <kichigai> Or was.
[04:30] <dr_willis> signs say yes..
[04:30] <wylde> lol
[04:30] <kichigai> Shall I just assume no one knows jack squat about EFI?
[04:30] <dr_willis> ! efi
[04:31] <bazhang> kichigai, that ? ^
[04:31] <kichigai> Yes, I read that. It wasn't clear about dual-booting, hence why I'm here. I mentioned that when I /joined
[04:31] <dr_willis> all I know about it is above
[04:32] <cjwelborn> kichigai: my setup was kind of a headache, i ended up having to use boot-repair to fix both Ubuntu and Win8 because of UEFI.
[04:34] <kichigai> cjwelborn, any info on that? Just nuke the EFI, install Debian, boot-fix Windows 8, then boot-fix Debian?
[04:34] <kichigai> Err, Ubuntu, sorry.
[04:34] <kichigai> I got used to the Debian machines at work.
[04:36] <cjwelborn> kichigai: i'm no expert, but I knew both OSs were installed. They just weren't booting properly. I loaded a LiveCD and backed up my EFI Files, MBR, (anything related to booting) with boot-repair. I then ran the actual 'repair' and everything worked. I had weird extra boot options on my grub menu, but it worked and I later 'fixed' those.
[04:37] <Dragin> where exactly is the shown --help file so I can print that file please?
[04:37] <kichigai> "actual repair"?
[04:38] <kavelot> hello! I'm considering installing ubuntu 13.04 (desktop), but I it's not LTS, so i'm wondering if updating to 13.10 or 14.04 is simple... do I have to reinstall everything? do I endup with a lot of garbage?
[04:38] <cjwelborn> kichigai: that tool, warns you to back everything up before it does it's "magic". Look up boot-repair, I'm sure there's more info on it.
[04:39] <kichigai> Because my plan right now is to nuke the EFI partition, install Linux, and then, if necessary, use my Windows 8 DVDs to fix the EFI, then re-install Linux if I needed to. But that makes a lot more sense.
[04:40] <qin> kavelot: yeah, release upgrades can deliver some thrills, yet with back ups it's all good ;)
[04:41] <cjwelborn> kichigai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair (after doing a normal dual-boot install, creating separate partitions, noting name of efi partition, and all that beforehand)
[04:41] <qin> kavelot: and 13.10 is almost here...
[04:43] <kavelot> yes, my main fear now is to install 13.04 now, upgrade to 13.10 in 1 month and end up with a lot of garbage
[04:43] <hays> garbage?
[04:43] <kavelot> supposedly installing 13.04 and updating to 13.10 would leave my system as clean as if I had installed 13.10?
[04:43] <kavelot> old libs, packages...
[04:43] <dr_willis> you worry too much
[04:43] <hays> pretty sure apt takes care of that
[04:43] <kavelot> after using windows for so long yes, I do :)
[04:43] <kavelot> I know how it gets in a couple years
[04:43] <dr_willis> it wont be old stuff
[04:44] <hays> i just upgraded my laptop from 12 to 13
[04:44] <hays> got some error messages, but they seem to have self-resolved
[04:45] <hays> things about kernel modules, but upon checking the kernel modules are loaded and working
[04:45] <hays> so I've nothing but good things to say about the upgrade process.
[04:45] <hays> Unity is nice, although the lack of a start menu grates on me a little
[04:45] <qin> hays: or you got used to error messages and seg faults ;)
[04:46] <kavelot> I don't really get linux distro versions... why ubuntu doesn't just update the packages and it would be a normal packages update?
[04:46] <kichigai> I've never had a problem upgrading any Linux distro ever. It's easier to deal with than full version upgrades of OS X or Windows, trust me.
[04:46] <kichigai> kavelot, well, that's basically what it is. I think they use version numbers primarily for support tracking reasons.
[04:46] <hays> kavelot: usually kernels change
[04:47] <computergeek1234> hi  need some help /information .
[04:47] <kavelot> hays: kernel is also a package, isn't it?
[04:47] <dr_willis> ubuntu is not a rolling release either
[04:47] <hays> and then packages with big dependency changes
[04:47] <dr_willis> ! latest
[04:47] <qin> kavelot: it is easer to track developement process, even rolling distros number themself.
[04:48] <hays> yeah dr_willis makes a good point that it is also about the support effort involved in keeping a snapshot/release stable with bug fixes and security patches
[04:48] <kavelot> got it, i guess it might be related to QA also
[04:48] <kavelot> ok, I think I got it :) thanks
[04:48] <computergeek1234> can anyone suggest a linux alternative to gotomeeting or netmeeting in windows.
[04:48] <hays> google chat?
[04:48] <qin> ekiga?
[04:49] <kichigai> Can Ekiga do video comms?
[04:49] <computergeek1234> need one for business purposes with multiple users worldwide.
[04:50] <dr_willis> so you need one that also works with windoes?
[04:50] <kichigai> This might be worth testing: https://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/
[04:50] <computergeek1234> yes
[04:50] <qin> kichigai: according to wiki it can
[04:50] <hays> there are advantages/disadvantages to the constant release system
[04:50] <hays> but i think the 3-9 month rolling cycle is a pretty good compromise
[04:50] <dr_willis> 'manpower' is always a limiting factor in any  distro. ;)
[04:51] <dr_willis> release.. then wait... then Bam,, release.. then wait. l)
[04:51] <kichigai> hays, No doubt. There are advantages and disadvantages to everything.
[04:51] <dr_willis> at least people who want to can stick to the LTS.
[04:52] <hays> on a conventional desktop ive found you can go pretty agressive and be ok
[04:52] <hays> laptops start to get dicey and servers it starts to get very dicey
[04:52] <computergeek1234> must have video similar  to skype and have whiteboard access.
[04:52] <dr_willis> but if you have 'just came out last week' laptops.. often lts falls down badly
[04:53] <hays> heh
[04:53] <hays> well new laptops sometimes being on the bleeding edge (kernel) is a good thing
[04:53] <kichigai> computergeek1234, How important are these meetings? I mean, how critical is it that they're flawless? Because if major money is involved, you may just be best off hanging in with GoToMeeting.
[04:54] <kichigai> Or do you have Linux machines that need to participate?
[04:54] <computergeek1234> kich mostly presentation to clients cross country. etc.
[04:54] <b0dhi> Does logmein has support for linux?
[04:55] <computergeek1234> i have both linux and windows 7 /8   machines.
[04:55] <hays> but seriously guys is there a way to get a heirarchical listing of installed programs e.g. a start menu
[04:56] <dr_willis> hays:   the various docks can have differnt launcher buttons
[04:56] <kichigai> computergeek1234, do they need to participate, or are you just showing stuff?
[04:56] <dr_willis> hays:  and theres classic-gnome style menu addons and indicator applets
[04:56] <computergeek1234> participate
[04:57] <qin> b0dhi: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-logmein-alternatives-ubuntu/ or just use ssh
[04:57] <computergeek1234> basically online interactive conferences with powerpoint etc.
[04:57] <Dragin> where exactly can I find the PRINTABLE version of the chown --help file please?
[04:58] <kichigai> computergeek1234, have you considered Cisco WebEx?
[04:58] <computergeek1234> no
[04:58] <qin> Dragin: copy/paset man chown or: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?chown
[04:59] <d1g1talph3r3t> Hello everyone!
[04:59] <computergeek1234> any good ?  cost?
[04:59] <Dragin> thanks qin
[04:59] <kichigai> computergeek1234, not sure, just an alternative to GTM I've found so far.
[05:00] <computergeek1234> ok kich will check it out.  thanks.
[05:00] <dr_willis> Dragin:  theres ways to format man pages for printing also
[05:00] <kichigai> computergeek1234, also check out Mikogo
[05:00] <computergeek1234> ok
[05:00] <Dragin> be nice if it was formatted for printing before it went live ;)
[05:01] <zexcriz> with the help of mail server setup on my machine, i can send and recieve emails from my yahoo,gmail or any other service provider ?
[05:01] <Dragin> http://www.kernel.org/doc/man\-pages/ bad url
[05:02] <computergeek1234> is mikogo a linux package or windows based?
[05:02] <dr_willis> Dragin:  a big feature of 'man' is it can gegerate printable output
[05:02] <b0dhi> qin..thanks but it seems it is not released yet..
[05:02] <dr_willis> !find man2html
[05:02] <dr_willis> !info man2html
[05:02] <qin> Dragin: man col | col -b > man_of_col
[05:03] <qin> Dragin: hope you not trying to publish nix man pages ;)
[05:03] <dr_willis> qin:  i recall    troff --man  somthing  > page.ps
[05:04] <dr_willis> old skool word processing with trofg
[05:04] <dr_willis> troff
[05:04] <Dragin> no.... Just easier for me to understand if I am reading it printed out like a book for some reason if that makes any sense. I am able to comprehend it a little better
[05:04] <kichigai> troff? Back in my day we used a magnetized needle and flipped the bits ourselves!
[05:05] <dr_willis> you had magnets? ... luxery!
[05:06] <qin> dr_willis: i used it maybe once, neat thinky with man, tho
[05:06] <dr_willis> i actually used troff/nroff then TeX for reports in school.
[05:07] <_> hello
[05:07] <_> where would the paging files in ubuntu be?
[05:07] <dr_willis> !swap
[05:07] <Psil0Cybin> does anyone else know what i can do. I have a wifi connection that says is connected but i can browse the net for only 5 minutes at a time, every 5 minutes it stopps being able to recieve connections like i cannot browse sites but suddenly i am able too again, I tried power cycling the modem/router but the connection is fine on every other computer but mine...This started when I tried to install samba
[05:07] <zexcriz> with the help of mail server setup on my machine, i can send and recieve emails from my yahoo,gmail or any other service provider ?
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> _, there are none
[05:07] <SwedeMike> Guest39452: it's usually a swap partition, not a paging file.
[05:09] <kichigai> SwedeMike, aren't they *essentially* the same, in the most basic way, though?
[05:11] <cjwelborn> Psil0Cybin: what app is handling your network connections? I've heard of some of them going crazy (crashing and restarting a lot)
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> i have no idea cjwelborn how do i find out..it was working perfectly before i started playing with samba yesterday
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> now today i have these problems
[05:12] <dr_willis> Psil0Cybin: test with a live cd. see if that has the same issue
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> it woudnt have the same issue, it was working perfectly fine like 23 hrs ago
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> like i think it will work with the live cd
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> i think its something that samba maybe did
[05:13] <dr_willis> samba shouldent be affecting that.  test with a live cd and prove it works there
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> when i uninstalled it
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> is there nothing i can do i just dont have a live cd handy
[05:14] <dr_willis> you might  have yninstalled other stuff as well. but i cant think of what would cause this
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> and the computer which has the internet working does not have a cd burner
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> god damit
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> i dont think i did
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> didnt think i did
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> but even if i did
[05:14] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <Psil0Cybin> it would get it to stop completely, now it works randomly like every 5 minutes i can browse a couple of sites, and then it goes offline while it says im still connected to the wifi network
[05:14] <dr_willis> use a usb? setvup grub2 to boot an iso file.. set up a netboot server..
[05:15] <dr_willis> try an older kernel also from the grub menu. if any exist
[05:18] <dhyana> I'll keep it
[05:18] <dhyana> :)
[05:18] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, check your /var/log/dpkg.log
[05:19] <Psil0Cybin> one second kostkon im restarting the laptop im going to check in a second
[05:19] <Psil0Cybin> i even tried power cycling my modem/roauter like im so confused
[05:21] <monkwitdafunk> Thats okay if you got a good power to all working in the set up
[05:21] <cjwelborn> Psil0Cybin: about the livecd, and not having a cd burner... do you have a USB stick and a USB port? You could boot from that maybe if you have to.
[05:23] <monkwitdafunk> If my outlet is a small one you can run a 3.0ghz cores intel64 on a 80watt power supply to the computer
[05:24] <Deividanonbrsc> oi
[05:25] <monkwitdafunk> Lga775 socket is low power for single.channel ram mode
[05:25] <Deividanonbrsc> hello
[05:25] <monkwitdafunk> Hi
[05:26] <monkwitdafunk> 80 watt power supply. Thats right. You herd it
[05:26] <Deividanonbrsc> alguem do brasil?
[05:28] <reisio> #ubuntu-br
[05:29] <monkwitdafunk> Hey should viva la brasil be on the long term support for intel/amd 64bit
[05:29] <reisio> monkwitdafunk: hrmm?
[05:32] <Guest99895> hola, buenos días
[05:32] <reisio> hola
[05:34] <Guest99895> conocen alguna guia básica, quise decir muy básica, para lubuntu?
[05:35] <aeon-ltd> !es
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> hmm so wierd
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> still cant figure it out
[05:37] <Guest99895> hola, busco guia muy básica de uso lubuntu? Gracias
[05:40] <reisio> Guest99895: http://wiki.lxde.org/es/Especial:Todas
[05:40] <reisio> Guest99895: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/local-language#spanish
[05:41] <ElectricPrism> need to buy a new video card, want to have ubuntu in mind / mir
[05:42] <ElectricPrism> Should I get an nVidia 6/7 series?
[05:43] <sasi> clear
[05:44] <sasi> exit
[05:44] <ElectricPrism>  /
[05:44] <qin> sasi: /
[05:51] <chenchacha> Hello，some one develop cortex-m3 in linux？
[05:51] <reisio> chenchacha: useless question :)
[05:51] <dhyana> chenchacha,  hello
[05:52] <chenchacha> 。。。。
[05:53] <chenchacha> so few people
[05:55] <chenchacha> reisio: why the question useless??
[05:56] <kichigai> OK, I just ran the Ubuntu Installer and used the Install-Ubuntu-besides-Windows-8 option and now I'm booting just windows 8
[05:56] <reisio> chenchacha: because no answer will help you
[05:56] <chenchacha> I think there should be a lot of people do this.
[05:56] <reisio> chenchacha: to do what? Answer your poll?
[05:57] <chenchacha> dhyana:hello
[05:57] <reisio> kichigai: boot the install image again, hit 'try' instead of 'install', come back here and we can fix it
[05:58] <kichigai> reisio, Oh, there's no coming back. I won't be leaving.  It won't be THAT easy to get rid of me!
[05:58] <kichigai> So I'm live now.
[05:59] <kichigai> USB drives boot faster than the discs I'm used to.
[05:59] <reisio> kichigai: cheating
[06:00] <reisio> kichigai: most likely GRUB failed to properly configure itself
[06:00] <kichigai> reisio, looks like my EFI boot partition is still NTFS, and Ubuntu kept installing without telling me about that.
[06:00] <reisio> kichigai: still?
[06:01] <kichigai> reisio, Da.
[06:01] <reisio> okay, well, let us know
[06:02] <qin> how looks like partition setup after "installing besides"? It intimidates me to not know that.
[06:03] <kichigai> reisio, da is Russian for "yes"
[06:03] <reisio> kichigai: oh I know :)
[06:04] <reisio> qin: something like windows system reserved, windows, ubuntu, swap
[06:04] <reisio> qin: if it bothers you, do the manual partition option
[06:04] <kichigai> reisio, ??????? ??????? ?????
[06:05] <reisio> kichigai: do you need help fixing your efi partition?
[06:05] <kichigai> reisio, Well, I need help *building* one to be more accurate.
[06:05] <Psil0Cybin> does anyone else know what i can do. I have a wifi connection that says is connected but i can browse the net for only 5 minutes at a time, every 5 minutes it stopps being able to recieve connections like i cannot browse sites but suddenly i am able too again, I tried power cycling the modem/router but the connection is fine on every other computer but mine...This started when I tried to install samba
[06:05] <kichigai> IT's NTFS formatted, so I'm assuming I'll ned to format it and make it FAT32, then set up grub, then point that to the Windows bootloader.
[06:05] <kichigai> But I don't know much about EFI, so I can only *guess* that this is the right course of action.
[06:06] <qin> reisio: always do manual, that why I wonder, so installer do whole resizeing for itself? would it use extended partition?
[06:06] <kichigai> I *thought* the Ubuntu "install beside" option would fix that.
[06:06] <reisio> kichigai: I'm not sure how it worked for your previous OS/es if it was NTFS
[06:06] <reisio> kichigai: you sure it isn't just a Windows system reserved partition?
[06:06] <aeon-ltd> Psil0Cybin: are you running samba?
[06:06] <chsados> can anyone help me get drivers for my ATI HD 4890
[06:06] <reisio> qin: does it matter?
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> i just tried reinstalling it to fix this problem
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> but it didnt
[06:06] <qin> reisio: no
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> i wasnt before
[06:06] <reisio> qin: :)
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> i was when the problem started aegis
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> aeon-ltd:
[06:07] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <kichigai> reisio, it's a new machine. My first one with an EFI. And there is no other partition. One 367MB NTFS partition flagged bootable, one NTFS partition I installed Windows 8 on, and then EXT4 and SWAP.
[06:07] <reisio> chsados: /msg ubottu ati
[06:07] <chsados> ubottu?
[06:07] <reisio> kichigai: what makes you think it's ntfs?
[06:07] <kichigai> reisio, besides the fact parted says it's NTFS?
[06:07] <reisio> chsados: that's what it says, isn't it? :)
[06:07] <Xavier89> hi
[06:07] <kichigai> reisio, the label is "system reserved"
[06:08] <Xavier89> how to stop the service psybnc ?
[06:08] <chsados> i dont get it
[06:08] <qin> !bot
[06:08] <Psil0Cybin> aeon-ltd: do you think samba could have caused this?
[06:08] <reisio> kichigai: it doesn't sound like you're using efi at all
[06:08] <Psil0Cybin> should i try to reinstall all the apps i did when i had these problems?
[06:08] <tozen> Xavier89: sudo service psybnc stop?
[06:08] <reisio> chsados: what don't you get?
[06:08] <kichigai> reisio, I think I am. It's a new machine, less than a month old, and I just let Windows 8 do its thing.
[06:08] <kichigai> reisio, if it's legacy booting, I'm not going to start a fight, though.
[06:08] <chsados> reisio- nm i misspelled the name i got the url thx
[06:09] <reisio> kichigai: legacy is a bit strong
[06:09] <reisio> kichigai: it sounds like you aren't using efi, though
[06:09] <reisio> kichigai: does it matter to you if you aren't?
[06:09] <reisio> chsados: :)
[06:09] <Xavier89> [tozen] unrecognized service
[06:10] <kichigai> reisio, Yeah, legacy is hard to dispose of under x86. I don't see a benefit right now to using EFI, since all I care about is dual-booting, so if it's MBR I'll just roll with it.
[06:10] <tozen> Xavier89: or see the number of service you want to stop through <top> command
[06:10] <reisio> kichigai: again it's not "legacy", it's just not efi, it doesn't seem
[06:10] <sherefe> hello has anyone experience in installing and configuring openvpn server on ubuntu ?
[06:10] <chsados> is there anything like the task manager for ubuntu?
[06:10] <tozen> Xavier89: sothen could be smth like <kill number_of_service>
[06:10] <reisio> kichigai: but that would also mean the efi partition is unrelated to your booting issue
[06:10] <reisio> kichigai: so you have the live os running?
[06:11] <kichigai> reisio, you had said that "legacy is strong", that's what I was replying to.
[06:11] <reisio> chsados: yes, just regular Ubuntu?
[06:11] <kichigai> reisio, and yes, Live OS is running right now.
[06:11] <reisio> kichigai: okay, is 'pastebinit' on there?
[06:11] <chsados> im on 12.04
[06:11] <Patero-ng> question, how to make ubuntu load from a usb drive with changes enabled
[06:11] <Patero-ng> I'm playing using the 13.4 ver
[06:11] <sherefe>  guys has anyone experience in installing and configuring openvpn server on ubuntu ?
[06:11] <reisio> Patero-ng: you could install to a usb drive
[06:11] <qin> Xavier89: htop and kill
[06:12] <Patero-ng> from win7
[06:12] <kichigai> reisio, no. But I'm guessing it can be just apt-getted? apt-got? What's the proper verbal form?
[06:12] <reisio> chsados: sudo apt-get install gnome-system-monitor && dpkg -L gnome-system-monitor | grep -i bin
[06:13] <chsados> thx reisio
[06:13] <reisio> kichigai: installed? :)
[06:13] <Patero-ng> that was pro reisio
[06:13] <reisio> kichigai: yeah, should be able to be
[06:13] <reisio> kichigai: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:13] <reisio> Patero-ng: hrmm?
[06:13] <kichigai> reisio, implying that it's obtained other than through apt-get, but yeah, I'll do that.
[06:13] <sealbhach> Patero-ng: I find the best way is to install from a live session in a virtual machine e.g. Virtualbox. It can makes a normal install onto USB as if it were a hard drive
[06:14] <drcasper_> hi guys .. i have a question. I have an Ubuntu box running Apache (port80) and I have an application (ScreenConnect) that uses port 8040.. when people go to my website (somewbsite.com) they hit my aweb server, but at the same time, i also want my application to use port 80 so they don't have to type somewbsite.com:8040 .. how can i go about getting something like that set up ?
[06:14] <reisio> kichigai: well there actually are many other ways, but mostly 'installed' is so simple, and accurate
[06:14] <kichigai> reisio, true, true...
[06:15] <kichigai> reisio, well, verbiage aside, it's now on my Live system.
[06:15] <drcasper_> i would like to see something like .. support.anywebsite.com  goes to anywebsite.com:8040
[06:15] <Patero-ng> sealbhach so load the iso image then select the install procedure to install on a 4gb drive
[06:17] <sealbhach> Patero-ng: Yes, are you familiar with Virtual machines? You need to get the VM to see your attached USB, easy enough in Virtualbox.
[06:17] <reisio> kichigai: okay, will need to see /boot/grub/grub.cfg, /etc/fstab, the output of /sbin/blkid
[06:17] <kichigai> reisio, I trust you mean the *installed* /{etc} right?
[06:18] <Patero-ng> I'm on windows 7 that's the only os on the computer
[06:18] <qin> dr_casper: /j #httpd, or would it be easy to make subdomain and redirect?
[06:18] <reisio> kichigai: yes indeed
[06:18] <qin> drcasper: ^^^^
[06:18] <sealbhach> Look up Virtualbox. It's really easy to use.
[06:18] <kichigai> reisio, working? working?
[06:18] <monkwitdafunk> Oem! Cheers!
[06:18]  * kichigai does the Data eye-scanning thing
[06:19] <reisio> kichigai: hrmm?
[06:19] <reisio> oh :p
[06:20] <kichigai> reisio, grub.cfg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109122/
[06:21] <monkwitdafunk> If i wanted to be a Ubuntu for amd/intel 64bi..... how can i be widely recognized as one? t
[06:21] <kichigai> reisio, fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109126/
[06:21] <monkwitdafunk> Be a OEM
[06:22] <reisio> monkwitdafunk: a reseller?
[06:22] <kichigai> reisio,  blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109130
[06:25] <monkwitdafunk> Well i like the efforts for performace on cheap 80watt power supplies
[06:26] <monkwitdafunk> Or leas
[06:26] <monkwitdafunk> Or.less
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> monkwitdafunk: i haven't been following but 80W psu?
[06:27] <justinm001> hey
[06:27] <monkwitdafunk> Yeah
[06:27] <monkwitdafunk> You can run it safely in a good home
[06:27] <monkwitdafunk> You can leave it on
[06:28] <justinm001> can someone help me please with ubuntu 13.04.. i'm trying to set the  default route (via usb.. I've added gatway x.x.x.x in /etc/network/interface but its not working.  I set the ip in that part and that bit is working.
[06:28] <justinm001> then i cheated and add route add default gw x.x.x.x to rc.local but t doesnt work either
[06:28] <reisio> kichigai: what's /dev/sdb2 ?
[06:28] <monkwitdafunk> Nobody has herd of the 80watt PSU
[06:29] <kichigai> reisio, either my USB hard disk I'm using for storage or the USB flash drive I'm booting from
[06:29] <kichigai> reisio, what format is it?
[06:29] <justinm001> anyone at all :) ?
[06:29] <justinm001> shiny penny in it for you
[06:29] <Guest80319> hey guys
[06:29] <Xavier89> [qin]
[06:29] <justinm001> (not really)
[06:29] <Guest80319> first timer here
[06:29] <kichigai> reisio, nm, sdb2  is part of the flash drive I'm booting from
[06:30] <Guest80319> how do i change my name?
[06:30] <kichigai> reisio, don't ask me how I got hter.
[06:30] <kichigai> Guest80319, use the /nickname (new nickname) command
[06:30] <Guest80319> hhuashd
[06:30] <Guest80319> didnt work
[06:30] <kichigai> Guest80319, use /nick instead
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Guest80319: You need to select a nick that hasn't already been registered.
[06:30] <Tex_Nick> monkwitdafunk: if you're wanting to become an OEM of low power PC's ... then you probably need to lookinto the micro ITX MoBo's ... that's not a topic for this channel though ... try ##hardware ... if i understand your question
[06:30] <reisio> kichigai: and sdc?
[06:31] <kichigai> reisio, THAT is my USB HDD.
[06:31] <monkwitdafunk> Oh
[06:31] <saied> got it thanks
[06:31] <reisio> kichigai: oka
[06:31] <saied> hey guysl i want to become a white hat hacker
[06:31] <saied> whats a code channel to start
[06:31] <reisio> kichigai: I s'pose you could be using efi... did you go into windows 8 and flip that switch to let multiple OSes boot?
[06:31] <kichigai> reisio, there's a switch or that?
[06:32] <kichigai> *for that
[06:32] <reisio> saied: #whitehat ?
[06:32] <saied> its on this server?
[06:32] <Jordan_U> reisio: kichigai: You don't need to disable secure boot to boot Ubuntu.
[06:32] <reisio> kichigai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Accessing_the_UEFI_settings_from_Windows8 ?
[06:32] <kichigai> Jordan_U, I don't have SecureBoot enabled to start with. I don't even have a TPM module!
[06:33] <kichigai> reisio, where's the multi-boot option there?
[06:33] <Jordan_U> kichigai: If the machine came with a Windows 8 sticker then it had secure boot enabled by default (which doesn't quite require a TPM, which is more for "trusted" boot). That said, it's still not particularly relevant as Ubuntu should work either way.
[06:34] <reisio> UEFI is responsible for loading stuff
[06:34] <kichigai> Jordan_U, it's a custom built machine I assembled myself. The only stickers involved with it are the ones packaged with the CPU that I left alone.
[06:36] <xem25> Hi
[06:36] <reisio> kichigai: what physical media did you install from?
[06:36] <reisio> xem25: hiyo
[06:36] <kichigai> reisio, DVDs ordered from Microsoft. I originally purchased them to dual-boot my MacBook Pro, but since I built a dedicated machine...
[06:36] <hanasaki> have a br0 setup so resulting in eth0 not getting an IP.... all runs fine... except pidgin is not logging into any accounts... I have to go to "accounts" and check/uncheck the account active on them all to get them to log in.  why is this and how do I get them to login when pidgin starts up?
[06:37] <justinm001> anyone have any ideas howto set default gw ?
[06:37] <hanasaki> justinm001:  google about route
[06:37] <reisio> kichigai: sorry I meant Ubuntu
[06:37] <reisio> although I wonder about Windows, too
[06:38] <kichigai> reisio, A USB NAND drive.
[06:38] <reisio> kichigai: is your DVD drive scsi?
[06:38] <kichigai> reisio, No, USB. But it's not currently connected.
[06:38] <hanasaki> how do I tell what speed my ethernet is running at?
[06:39] <reisio> oh :)
[06:39] <reisio> kichigai: I think you might be in some efi twilight zone, and might require someone who knows more about efi than most people :/
[06:40] <kichigai> reisio, Yeah, that's what I was a'fear'd of.
[06:40] <qin> hanasaki: speedof.me
[06:40] <reisio> but I s'pose you could try re-installing GRUB
[06:40] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:40] <kichigai> reisio, I thought you couldn't MBR grub on a GPT volume?
[06:40] <reisio> if that doesn't work you can try grub-install manually
[06:40] <qin> hanasaki: sorry, thats rather for broadband
[06:40] <reisio> kichigai: well how is it you mean to boot Ubuntu?
[06:41] <justinm001> hanasaki i have, ive wird tho.. its works if i add route manually
[06:41] <Patero-ng> I have a question I want to burn ubuntu into a usb drive using unetbootin but I want to know the recommended size of space to preserve files across reboots
[06:41] <kichigai> reisio, I was expecting EFI, but I'll take it anyway it'll start.
[06:41] <justinm001> or if i add to rc.local.. and i no rc.local is deff working, just the cmd doesnt work when it runs, then :(
[06:41] <gefangshuai> hello everone
[06:41] <monkwitdafunk> Distance and power maybe for ethernet speed? Cat5 ethernet is by far the pioneering as a construction trade
[06:41] <zhoutao> hello
[06:41] <reisio> kichigai: try boot repair, maybe it'll just work :p
[06:41] <reisio> zhoutao: hi
[06:41] <kichigai> reisio, will do.
[06:42] <monkwitdafunk> Its feasible to build bundles of wire
[06:42] <justinm001> and bloody /etc/resolv.conf keeps changing
[06:42] <justinm001> and im not using / running dhcp
[06:42] <Jordan_U> kichigai: What problem are you having? Did you install 64 bit Ubuntu? What image did you use?
[06:42] <kichigai> Jordan_U, yes, 64-bit, 13.04 I beieve.
[06:43] <Jordan_U> kichigai: And what problem are you having?
[06:43] <kichigai> Jordan_U, it's complicated.
[06:44] <kichigai> Jordan_U, reisio seems to have a reasonable grasp on my problems thus far, unless you know some dark majick about EFI
[06:44] <Jordan_U> kichigai: I can likely help you, but I'm going to sleep in about 5 minutes. Can you try to summarize?
[06:45] <kichigai> reisio, is boot-repair available as an APT package?
[06:45] <kichigai> Jordan_U, I doubt you can fix it in 5 minutes, but my problem is my EFI partition is NTFS thanks to Windows 8, and I need to resolve how to dual-boot.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> kichigai: Your EFI System Partition is not NTFS. If it were then Windows 8 wouldn't be booting either.
[06:46] <salamandre43025> Y'all are probably sick of hearing this, but just installed nvidia_319_updates after configuring my xorg.conf with Nvidia-settings. 1st reboot: got "Starting load fallback graphics devices" [fail]
[06:46] <kichigai> Jordan_U, No. It *IS* NTFS. Windows 8 formatted it so. Trust me, I've read the parted outputs several times.
[06:47] <Jordan_U> kichigai: UEFI can only read FAT, if you don't have a FAT EFI System Partition then your computer won't boot.
[06:47] <hanasaki> qin:  I mean from the linux level.. not the speed test.. but the nic config
[06:48] <Jordan_U> kichigai: If any OS is booting via UEFI, then you have a FAT EFI System Partition. It is possible that you are booting via CSM (BIOS) rather than UEFI thouhg.
[06:48] <Strit> Jordan_U, kichigai You sure you are talking about the same partition? Windows 8 creates a seperate "system" partition and then the partition where windows is.
[06:48] <kichigai> Strit, I don't see any other partition that could be it.
[06:48] <Jordan_U> kichigai: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo blkid".
[06:49] <salamandre43025> Can ne1 help with a Nvidia_319 problem? Really don't wanna spam
[06:49] <kichigai> Jordan_U, blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109130
[06:50] <Strit> salamandre43025, I have the same problem, so I do not dare to update my drivers. :P
[06:51] <kichigai> Jordan_U, parted -l: http//paste.ubuntu.com/6109203/
[06:52] <pccfatman> So, I am a windows user that has just migrated to Ubuntu, everything seems to be going well with the exception of Ubuntu constantly notifying me every 10 minutes that my wireless mouse battery is at 1% I have tested the battery and also changed it with no love. Removed gnome-power-manager as I thought this was the culprit, no joy. Any suggestions?
[06:53] <salamandre43025> Strit, lol so I'm stuck with 304 and a 59.75 Hz refresh (which my monitor hates?
[06:53] <hanasaki> ethtool shows speed of 100Mb/s however I know the nic is 1000 and the hub is 1000 also.... why would ethtool show 100?
[06:53] <reisio> pccfatman: I hope you put it back, if it didn't make a difference :)
[06:53] <Jordan_U> kichigai: Since the drive containing Windows is using an msdos partition table you almost certainly aren't booting Windows via UEFI, but rather through your firmware's BIOS implementation (CSM). So it's not that your EFI System Partition is NTFS, it's that you don't have any EFI System Partition.
[06:53] <pccfatman> yep tried that too :)
[06:53] <Strit> kichigai, if UEFI can't boot on ntfs partitions, then that's your problem. Now why Win8 would change that to ntfs on it's own is out of my power to say. :)
[06:54] <omkar> hi
[06:54] <omkar> does anyone know the name of the app which appears afterone installs kde
[06:54] <kichigai> Jordan_U, the drive containing Windows is NTFS. It's all on the same drive. The FAT32 (MSDOS) partition is on my flash drive, which is where I boot Ubuntu from.
[06:54] <reisio> pccfatman: logitech?
[06:54] <omkar> i mean the one onthe desktop
[06:54] <Strit> salamandre43025, yeah. Same as me. Until Ubuntu repo's update their versions.
[06:54] <reisio> omkar: ?
[06:54] <pccfatman> yest is is as a matter of fact
[06:54] <omkar> the pane on which we can keep multiple things
[06:54] <omkar> and access
[06:54] <Jordan_U> kichigai: Re-read what I said. You're not booting via UEFI at all.
[06:55] <reisio> does his grub.cfg think he is, though?
[06:55] <omkar> i mistakenly removed it and want that app on desktop
[06:55] <salamandre43025> Strit, nuts I guess I'll just have to RSS the dev forum post. Cheers
[06:55] <Jordan_U> reisio: A default grub.cfg will be the same for both BIOS and UEFI.
[06:55] <kichigai> Then why didn't the Ubuntu installer configure MBR correctly, Jordan_U?
[06:56] <reisio> ew
[06:56] <Strit> omkar, What panel do you mean? If you mean unity then you can't have both KDE and Unity running at the same time.
[06:56] <shri> can someone tell me how to install  cndrvcups-capt these drivers
[06:56] <omkar> no not unity
[06:56] <Jordan_U> kichigai: Please run boot info script: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces.
[06:56] <omkar> in kde4 when the machine comes up right there is a panel on the desktop
[06:56] <Jordan_U> kichigai: What happens when you try to boot?
[06:56] <reisio> pccfatman: maybe look at a package named 'solaar'
[06:56] <omkar> in which u can keep application which u access many times
[06:57] <Strit> omkar, Ah, like windows has?
[06:57] <pccfatman> reisio: ok will do thanks
[06:57] <kichigai> Jordan_U, I end up in Windows 8
[06:57] <omkar> nope
[06:57] <reisio> pccfatman: ah, hrmmm
[06:57] <reisio> pccfatman: is it an mx1000?
[06:57] <omkar> https://www.google.co.in/search?q=kde4+plasmadesktop+applet&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.52164340,d.bmk,pv.xjs.s.en_US.CQsooEYev9Y.O&biw=1366&bih=623&dpr=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=JVk1Up7hOJDxrQe94IHoBw#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=e9OGFhx3vzRfhM%3A%3BKawSOwT5PSEDTM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Flinuxlibrary.org%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2011%252F05%252Fkubuntu-11-04-4.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Flinuxlibrary.org%252Fkde-plasma-desktop-widgets%25
[06:57] <omkar> 2F%3B800%3B600
[06:58] <omkar> sorry for the pasting image link directly
[06:58] <Jordan_U> kichigai: Did you change any settings related to grub during the Ubuntu installation?
[06:58] <pccfatman> wireless trackball m570
[06:58] <reisio> pccfatman: hrmm, well if solaar doesn't help, look into getting the latest version of upower, there's some talk of this sort of problem having been fixed since only four days ago
[06:59] <kichigai> Jordan_U, No, I didn't change any settings. Bootinfoscript: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109215/
[06:59] <helmut_> hi
[06:59] <reisio> hi helmut
[06:59] <kichigai> pccfatman, Good choice of trackball. That's what I use and I *love* it
[06:59] <pccfatman> I wont use any other :)
[07:00] <pccfatman> thanks reisio appreciate the help, its been driving me nuts for days, and google wasnt much help
[07:00] <Jordan_U> kichigai: One thing to note, the partition table on sdb is a mess in many ways. You should probably fix that ASAP, and I hope all your important data is backed up.
[07:01] <kichigai> Jordan_U, SDB is the flash drive I'm booting the Ubuntu Installer from. There's nothing there I care about.
[07:01] <kichigai> brb
[07:03] <Jordan_U> kichigai: Carefully follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot and at the end (just before step 12) run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and make sure that "sda" is selected as an install device (use sapce bar to select / unselect and Enter to go to the next screen). Be sure to follow those instructions exactly and you should end up with a working system. Goodnight.
[07:04] <omkar> its finei will search it
[07:05] <pccfatman> bbs
[07:13] <pccfatman> all appears to be working ok with solaar, have to let it run for a bit and see what happens, thanks for the help, Ill be back again im sure :)
[07:14] <reisio> pccfatman: :)
[07:15] <Valentina-123> hello, is there any application that shows the  internet bandwidth usage of individual programs running.....or softwares that limits the bandwidth to certain softwares onli ????
[07:15] <reisio> Valentina-123: which do you want, the latter?
[07:15] <Valentina-123> yeah
[07:16] <Valentina-123> plz help me reisio
[07:17] <monkwitdafunk> I use ubuntu amd64 long term
[07:18] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys can someone help me figure out why my wifi says connected but i cannot access the internet, it was working perfect yesterday before i tried installing and configuring samba, but i dunt think samba is the problem, i just am clueless i have googld and googled, and tried thosands of answers none which worked for me...I have tried to reset my modem/router but it works perfectly fine for this computer, my other computers internet connec
[07:18] <Psil0Cybin> tion works for 5 minutes then disconnects for 25 minutes and reconnects for 5 (doesnt say reconnects just lets me actually view websites) I can see my wifi connection is constantly connected so im clueless
[07:18] <SemenDickman> hiiiii
[07:20] <Valentina-123> hi guys, is there any application that shows the  internet bandwidth usage of individual programs running.....or softwares that limits the bandwidth to certain softwares only ???? plz help me
[07:20] <SemenDickman>             yes there is one u indian fucktard
[07:21] <bazhang> !info wondershaper | Valentina-123
[07:22] <Mig_> Does anyone know something about http://gaosu.rave.org/ubuntu?  Do you want ubuntu with internet limted usage?
[07:24] <auronandace> Valentina-123: he got kicked, and don't use that language here please
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> funny enough semandickman doesnt know how to use vpns and proxys
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> muaha
[07:24] <Valentina-123> monkwitdafunk: for certain sws only
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys can someone help me figure out why my wifi says connected but i cannot access the internet, it was working perfect yesterday before i tried installing and configuring samba, but i dunt think samba is the problem, i just am clueless i have googld and googled, and tried thosands of answers none which worked for me...I have tried to reset my modem/router but it works perfectly fine for this computer, my other computers internet connec
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> tion works for 5 minutes then disconnects for 25 minutes and reconnects for 5 (doesnt say reconnects just lets me actually view websites) I can see my wifi connection is constantly connected so im clueless
[07:24] <bazhang> !repeat | Psil0Cybin
[07:25] <Valentina-123> monkwitdafunk:can u help
[07:25] <bazhang> !info trickle | Valentina-123
[07:25] <monkwitdafunk> Well....
[07:25] <bazhang> Valentina-123, I have given you two suggestions so far
[07:25] <monkwitdafunk> It all starts with the backbone and isp
[07:25] <bazhang> Valentina-123, have you even tried either one of them yet?
[07:25] <Valentina-123> can I get a GUI based one ???
[07:26] <reisio> there is at least one gui one, but I don't remember its name :/ :p
[07:27] <Valentina-123> plz help me friend
[07:27] <hanasaki> whatiss a good irc channel to discuss printers and ink vs laser vs led and brands?
[07:28] <auronandace> !alis | hanasaki
[07:29] <reisio> hanasaki: #electronics?
[07:29] <bazhang> http://blog.kylemanna.com/linux/2013/06/17/ubuntu-1304-bandwidth-shaping-and-traffic-control-using-htb/   augh he quit
[07:29] <hanasaki> alis has no info lol
[07:30] <reisio> wouldn't have read it anyways :p
[07:30] <bazhang> hanasaki, ##hardware
[07:31] <b0x> how do i completely disable the gnone-screensaver process from running
[07:31] <monkwitdafunk> Hanaski you can share the news after seeing a profession
[07:31] <Shal> I can set up xfce to be like gnome 2? With so many changes, is there a program or mod that I can use to do this?
[07:31] <reisio> Shal: it takes a few minutes to do it manually...
[07:32] <reisio> b0x: you don't want your screen to ever blank?
[07:32] <b0x> well
[07:32] <b0x> i'd like the screen to just turn off
[07:32] <Shal> Would you be willing to to guide me through that reisio ?
[07:32] <b0x> which it does eventually anyway, but when i try to
[07:32] <b0x> restore, or come out of screensaver
[07:32] <b0x> i often get a black screen
[07:33] <b0x> i have to switch to console mode with ctrl alt f1, do "killall gnome-screensaver"
[07:33] <b0x> then ctrl alt f7 to get everything back
[07:33] <reisio> Shal: sure
[07:34] <reisio> b0x: I'd probably do something like this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-replace-gnome-screensaver-with-xscreensaver-in-ubuntu.html
[07:34] <reisio> GNOME 3's blanker is a little underdeveloped
[07:37] <b0x> thanks reisio, i'll try that
[07:37] <Shal> How do you disable leave/enter notices in xchat?
[07:38] <b0x> Shal: theres a option in preferences pretty sure
[07:38] <b0x> or its in their FAQ the line to enter
[07:38] <xlinkz0> Hi, i'm trying to run live ubuntu on a machine from my usb stick, i got it to boot but when i select the first option ( run image smth ) it spits out a lot of text and when it finishes with the text my monitor goes on stand by and it stays that way
[07:40] <Shal> b0x I have been looking around in preferences, please narrow it down a bit
[07:41] <b0x> Shal: please check their FAQ
[07:41] <b0x> it outlines it there
[07:41] <b0x> i know as i was reading it yesterday :p
[07:41] <xlinkz0> Shal: in hexchat it's under Chatting -> Advanced -> (checkox) Hide join dna part messages
[07:43] <bazhang> Shal, right click channel name in xchat
[07:43] <Shal> bazhang, thanks, but I assume that means its only for that channel, I want it hid for all my channels
[07:43] <dr_willis> how to hide parts/joins in xchat?
[07:44] <Shal> dr_willis, yes exactly, for all channels
[07:45] <dr_willis> its in the  xchat faq/docs at its homepage. theres some  conferancemode setting you use the command line to set
[07:45] <dr_willis> some / command
[07:45] <dr_willis> somthing like confernce mode.
[07:45] <dr_willis> i think it may be mentioned in the top 10 faq's  at the xchat homepage
[07:46] <dr_willis> i musch perfer weechat's smart filtering of such messages
[07:46] <Shal> dr_willis, I looked through the FAQ, and didn't see it
[07:46] <reisio> ...
[07:47] <reisio> /set irc_conf_mode  ?
[07:47] <reisio> /set irc_conf_mode 1 ?
[07:47] <monkwitdafunk> Does emapthy support sasl for register?
[07:47] <Dandalion> Hi room, I'm toying with the idea of installing Ubuntu and getting rid of Windows completely - the only drawback of this I can see is gaming. Could anyone provide me with any pointers on making my Windows games fully compatible with Ubuntu? If I can do that, I would never go back
[07:47] <dr_willis> somthing like that. i gave up on xchat a long time ago
[07:47] <monkwitdafunk> Emapthy has everything right?
[07:47] <dr_willis> Dandalion:  'fully compatiable' is not going to happen
[07:47] <monkwitdafunk> Empathy
[07:47] <Dandalion> I figured
[07:48] <Dandalion> :(
[07:48] <dr_willis> Dandalion:  if you want best gaming. dual boot.
[07:48] <Dandalion> I like Ubuntu so much but I hate dual booting
[07:48] <Dandalion> I'd rather run it in a VM on my MS box
[07:48] <dr_willis> give up on games.. thats basically what ive done.  Most are rather poor these days anyway. ;)
[07:48] <Dandalion> true, but Counter-strike will always have my heart
[07:48] <dr_willis> lubuntu in virtualbox - is very very handy
[07:49] <dr_willis> my name is normally 'Easy-Target-Kill-me-first' in those kind of games
[07:49] <Dandalion> basically, if CS:GO/CS:S work good in Ubuntu - that's all I need ;)
[07:49] <bazhang> !appdb | Dandalion
[07:49] <Dandalion> lubuntu?
[07:49] <reisio> Dandalion: they both do, via Wine
[07:50] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[07:50] <Dandalion> :O
[07:50] <bazhang> Dandalion, check the appdb then join #winehq
[07:50] <Dandalion> well in that case, I may switch over completely. The only other game I play is BF3, rarely, so not a big deal if I lose that. I'm learning programming/web development and from what I have been told Ubuntu is great for C
[07:51] <dr_willis> most any linux can be used for C programming. ;)
[07:51] <Dandalion> considering the guys who invented C also invented the Linux kernel
[07:51] <JimboPea> Hi, I have a HP laptop with an amd apu a8, and discrete graphics. I have the latest beta driver installed. Buw when i run "aticonfig --od-getclocks" it only shows t.he clocks for the intergrated gpu and doesnt see the discrete card. Any ideas?
[07:51] <dr_willis> Hmm? i dont think thats  true Dandalion
[07:52] <Dandalion> Maybe I'm misinformed
[07:52] <auronandace> Dandalion: perhaps you're thinking of unix
[07:52] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:53] <Dandalion> yes
[07:53] <Dandalion> that's what it was
[07:53] <Dandalion> Dennis Ritchie
[07:54] <dr_willis> minux is another os designed for  'learning' ;)  sort of the grandfather to linux in ways, a lot of inspiration came from it.
[07:54] <dr_willis> but theres learning  'C' then theres learning how 'An OS works' ;)
[07:55] <reisio> minix*
[07:55] <Tex_Nick> Dandalion: you're thinking about Thompson & Ritchie ??? with Unix & C ... Torvalds was Linux ;-)
[07:56] <reisio> and Stallman, but GNU/Linux is a Unix clone, so :p
[07:57] <dr_willis> but i thought stallman invented computers? ;)  .. oh wait.. i will shut up now.
[07:57] <Tex_Nick> lol ;-) ... so does Stallman ???
[07:57] <reisio> does stallman what?
[07:58] <nicolette> Hello, I've just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. It worked great from a livecd, but the first time I booted I had no sound. I also recieved an odd error in the software manager about needing to repair the packages. I rebooted, and now when I rebooted, my sound works again, but now Unity never loads when I log in
[07:58] <Tex_Nick> reisio: just poking fun @ Stallman :)
[07:58] <reisio> I just didn't get it...
[07:59] <Dandalion> according to Wikipedia, Stallman was responsible for GNU
[07:59] <Dandalion> Linus was responsible for the Linux Kernal
[07:59] <bazhang> !ot | Dandalion
[07:59] <Dandalion> kernel*
[07:59] <Dandalion> oh oops
[07:59] <monkwitdafunk> How is ubuntu not using a desktop enviroment?
[07:59] <Dandalion> sorry :P
[07:59] <reisio> monkwitdafunk: ?
[07:59] <bazhang> a server monkwitdafunk
[08:00] <dr_willis> monkwitdafunk:  the desktop is just another app you run. ;) just dont run it
[08:00] <xlinkz0> Hi, i'm trying to run live ubuntu on a machine from my usb stick, i got it to boot but when i select the first option ( run image smth ) it spits out a lot of text and when it finishes with the text my monitor goes on stand by and it stays that way
[08:01] <dr_willis> xlinkz0:  'run image somthing...'  err.. normally  the thing boots.. and you get a  'try or install' messaage
[08:01] <Tex_Nick> Dandalion: that's true ... & Linus Torvalds doesn't really like the reference to GNU/Linux ... he prefers to segregate GNU from Linux ... which is true
[08:01] <bazhang> Tex_Nick, take the chit chat elsewhere please
[08:01] <xlinkz0> dr_willis: i get the init messages but then nothing, doesn't matter if i select live boot or install
[08:01] <monkwitdafunk> I forget what one desktop enviroment i used but doing a driver upgrade got me graphics
[08:01] <Dandalion> ahhh yes, but Tex_Nick I suppose this is more relevant to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:02] <Tex_Nick> bazhang : i know better than that sir ... sorry will watch it in the future :)
[08:02] <nicolette> Hello, I've just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. It worked great from a livecd, but the first time I booted I had no sound. I also recieved an odd error in the software manager about needing to repair the packages. I rebooted, and now when I rebooted, my sound works again, but now Unity never loads when I log in
[08:02] <dr_willis> xlinkz0:  common things/problems.  - you did verify the iso downloaded md5 sum? you did verify the burn? try differnt tools to put the ISO on the usb, try differnt usb's,  try the nomodeset option on the live usb.
[08:02] <nicolette> the only way i can interact with the OS is currently via terminal
[08:03] <bazhang> nicolette, did you try in low graphics mode
[08:03] <nicolette> no, I haven't tried that. I guess this could be related to me installing the video drivers
[08:04] <bazhang> nicolette, and what about using different shells than unity
[08:04] <dr_willis> nicolette:  so it worked - befir you installed the drivers?
[08:05] <xlinkz0> i'll test it on my laptop, brb
[08:05] <Shal> How can I mount my hard drive to access it from my live usb flash drive?
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys can someone help me figure out why my wifi says connected but i cannot access the internet, it was working perfect yesterday before i tried installing and configuring samba, but i dunt think samba is the problem, i just am clueless i have googld and googled, and tried thosands of answers none which worked for me...I have tried to reset my modem/router but it works perfectly fine for this computer, my other computers internet connec
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> tion works for 5 minutes then disconnects for 25 minutes and reconnects for 5 (doesnt say reconnects just lets me actually view websites) I can see my wifi connection is constantly connected so im clueless
[08:06] <nicolette> Sorry did anyone say anyhing to me?
[08:06] <dr_willis> Shal:  proper use of the mount command is one way.
[08:06] <nicolette> I had to close xchat to access the terminal
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> nicolette? lmao
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> i used to call my x gf  that
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> wierd
[08:06] <Shal> proper use? When I tell it to mount it says "Adding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/xubuntu' failed: Operation not supported"
[08:07] <nicolette> I have no Unity so I have no way to switch between windows..
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> try
[08:07] <nicolette> how can I use a terminal to access System settings?
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> ALT+TAB
[08:07] <nicolette> ALT TAB doesn't work
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> wtf
[08:07] <dr_willis> Shal:  so what filesystem is the drive using? I really havent ever used acl's - so you may  be doing somthing that ive never done/used befor
[08:07] <nicolette> ALT TAB requires Unity...
[08:07] <dr_willis> nicolette:  so you are on a semi-working X desktop?
[08:08] <Shal> ext4, it works perfectly fine under the installed distro
[08:08] <nicolette> yes, desktop is loaded after installing drivers.. but no Unity
[08:08] <Shal> dr_willis,
[08:08] <Shal> And I don't know what acls are
[08:08] <Shal> but it isn't something I choose to use
[08:08] <dr_willis> nicolette:  to get at least a 'useable desktop' you may want to do a 'sudo apt-get install jwm' then run 'jwm' in a terminal.
[08:09] <nicolette> what is that?
[08:09] <dr_willis> Shal:  some sort of access /permission thing. ;) ive never used them etither
[08:09] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[08:09] <nicolette> I see..
[08:09] <dr_willis> jwm- about the lightest/smallest window manager in the repos.
[08:09] <dr_willis> a Huge 290k!
[08:09] <nicolette> or I could prolly just switch to GNOME, right?
[08:09] <dr_willis> if you got it installed. ;)
[08:09] <Shal> dr_willis, So can you help me?
[08:09] <dr_willis> jwm will take like 3 sec to download
[08:10] <dr_willis> Shal:   what was the original os that made the partion?
[08:10] <wylde_> nicolette: what output do you get from 'ps aux | grep lightdm'?
[08:10] <nicolette> jwm got me a window manager, thanks
[08:10] <Shal> dr_willis, ubuntu 11.10
[08:10] <dr_willis> jwm is about as basic and light as it gets. ;) handy for vnc and remote sessions.
[08:11] <dr_willis> Shal:  you migght want to check askubuntu.com to see if anyone else knows about that error mesage. I never have looked into acl ussage. so dont know how or what its really used
[08:11] <dr_willis> !acl
[08:11] <nicolette> here is the output: http://www.pastebin.ca/2451826
[08:12] <dr_willis> Shal:  that error message dosent really say the mount failed. it just is saying it cant add the permission.  so did it actually fail to mount?
[08:12] <yellabs-r2> we need an ubuntu version thats all dutch, how could we get it , any tips are welcome ( should we roll out our own version ? )
[08:12] <Shal> dr_willis, I don't understand what distinction you are tying to make, I can't access the drive
[08:13] <reisio> #ubuntu-nl ?
[08:13] <wylde_> nicolette: ok, that's not the problem.
[08:13] <dr_willis> Shal:  how are you trying to access it? as what user.
[08:13] <dr_willis> Shal:  whats the exact mount command you are using also.
[08:13] <yellabs-r2> i asked there, but there is no nl version they are maing right now..
[08:13] <Shal> dr_willis, I said, from a usb live flash drive. Access it by point and click
[08:13] <dr_willis> Shal:  use the shell. it will give better error messages
[08:14] <dr_willis> shal the live cd will also be the user 'ubuntu' its possible that user has no rights to access the filesystem. Your root user should be able to
[08:14] <Shal> dr_willis, please tell me how to do it via terminal then please
[08:14] <nicolette> There were two updates listed in the Software Manager.. I'm going to try switching to the other one
[08:14] <nicolette> Also, what is the command to open Ubuntu Software Center?
[08:14] <dr_willis> !mount | shal  for referance.
[08:15] <dr_willis> Shal:  somthing like 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/MAKEADIRECTORYFIRST'
[08:15] <dr_willis> then try a 'sudo ls /media/THENAMEYOUMADE'
[08:15] <wylde_> !find language-pack-nl
[08:15] <dr_willis> assuming the partion is sda1
[08:15] <crocket> nautilus is shitty.
[08:16] <nicolette> also... I have ATI graphics. Is it correct for me to be installing fglrx from the System Settings -> Software and Updates?
[08:16] <crocket> What's a good alternative nautilus for unity?
[08:16] <dr_willis> crocket:  theres dozens of file managers in the repos.
[08:16] <reisio> crocket: what don't you like about nautilus?
[08:16] <wylde_> nicolette: you can use jockey to get those drivers
[08:16] <Shal> dr_willis, make directory?
[08:16] <dr_willis> and theres tweaked nautiuls variants out in unofficial places. ;)
[08:16] <nicolette> jockey?
[08:16] <dr_willis> Shal:  yes.. you MAKE a directory to MOUNt the  partion to
[08:16] <dr_willis> Shal:  that mount info url - gives details.
[08:17] <wylde_> nicolette: it's the actual program for "Additional Drivers" :)
[08:17] <nicolette> interesting
[08:17] <dr_willis> jocky-gtk i thought was the name.. at least in the older ubuntus' - the newer ones  have the addational-drivers tool in a tab under the software-sources tool
[08:17] <Shal> dr_willis, You mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount?
[08:17] <crocket> reisio, When I type some keys in it, nautilus just automatically searches what I type. But I want it to point to the matching files/directories.
[08:17] <wylde_> nicolette: you can run it from the commandline with jockey-text
[08:18] <dr_willis> Shal:  yes. its worth skimming/reading that to learn the basics of what you are trying to do
[08:18] <wylde_> dr_willis: yes it is
[08:18] <reisio> crocket: it doesn't point?
[08:18] <crocket> dr_willis, What's the best?
[08:18] <nicolette> I just installed the other driver in Additional Drivers
[08:18] <nicolette> Is it worth it for me to install jockey?
[08:18] <nicolette> or should I try rebooting now?
[08:18] <dr_willis> Shal:  make a directory 'sudo mkdir /media/THEDIR'  mount the drive to it.. 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/THEDIR'   see whats there 'sudo ls /media/THEDIR'
[08:18] <nicolette> Also, is there a command I can run to try to restart unity?
[08:18] <crocket> reisio, In other file managers, when you type some keys, they move focus to files/directories that match what you type.
[08:19] <dr_willis> crocket:  totally depends on what your needs are. I use 'mc' 90% of the time.
[08:19] <crocket> reisio, In nautilus, when you type, it starts a search.
[08:19] <reisio> crocket: ah, use one of the others then
[08:19] <wylde_> nicolette: compiz --display :0 --replace   might help
[08:19] <Rory> nicolette, i think "unity --replace"
[08:19] <reisio> crocket: alternatively: http://www.google.com/search?q=nautilus%20disable%20search
[08:19] <crocket> reisio, I think GNOME devs are becoming increasingly crazy.
[08:20] <reisio> crocket: maybe, but only about what they always wanted
[08:21] <nicolette> here is the output when I try to start Unity
[08:21] <nicolette> http://www.pastebin.ca/2451835
[08:21] <crocket> reisio, They removed lots of fine-grained background settings to the point of frustration, and they put auto-search into nautilus.
[08:21] <day> ive a big problem with my soundcard/microphone. Im using a ALC889. And the microphone adds random fragments to my voice. Not all the time just every few seconds and ive no idea how to fix this.
[08:21] <crocket> It's just crazy.
[08:22] <crocket> They're certainly drifting a lot in brownian motions.
[08:22] <reisio> crocket: it's not my cup of tea, but it's what they've always been into in GNOME land
[08:22] <crocket> reisio, I think GNOME people are drifting.
[08:22] <xlinkz0> dr_willis: md5sum is correct, i can boot from it on my laptop, tried different usb ports on the desktop with the problem but i nothing changed
[08:22] <nicolette> brb, gonna try a restart
[08:23] <xlinkz0> i suspect it's booting it just has a problem with the display/graphics card?
[08:23] <bekks> xlinkz0: Did you try the nomodeset kernel option?
[08:24] <xlinkz0> no, do i just go into help then type nomodeset?
[08:24] <Shal> dr_willis,  don't I need to make the directory on a specific partition? I see nothing in that code that specifies which partition the directory is being made in
[08:24] <bekks> !nomodeset|xlinkz0
[08:24] <day> maybe i should just get a cheap 'working' soundcard :/
[08:24] <dr_willis> Shal:  you Mount a partion TO a directory. the directory can be anywhere.
[08:24] <xlinkz0> thanks
[08:24] <nicolette> well that didn't work.
[08:25] <crocket> I just ended up installing marlin as a replacement for nautilus.
[08:25] <nicolette> now I can't even start JWM
[08:25] <Mig_> what do I do when apt-get fails on me because it can't locate the source?
[08:25] <Rory> nicolette, might it not be easier to log out and in?
[08:25] <dr_willis> Shal:  mount example ->  'mount /dev/sda1 /path/to/the/mountpoint'
[08:25] <nicolette> If I try to start JWM now it claims that the display is already manager (it definitely isn't
[08:25] <Rory> Mig_, please post the full error on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:25] <dr_willis> Shal:  that  /path/to/the//mountpoint MUST exist befor you can mount the partion to it
[08:25] <Rory> nicolette, jwm --replace ?
[08:25] <nicolette> tried it
[08:26] <dr_willis> jwm dosent support replace i imagine. ;) its too new a option
[08:26] <Rory> nicolette, are you trying to use jwm instead of unity?
[08:26] <dr_willis> killall compiz && jwm
[08:26] <dr_willis> perhaps. ;)
[08:26] <Shal> dr_willis, Ok, but this confuses me a bit because it has the appearance of being the exact opposite of how windows works :p But I think I get it
[08:27] <Shal> partially
[08:27] <xlinkz0> bekks: i'm on 12.04 i don't get the f6 stuff with extra options
[08:27] <dr_willis> Shal:  windows does it totally screwy.   Linux - you put the partion exactly where you want it to go on the directory 'tree' of the system
[08:27] <bekks> xlinkz0: What is "f6 stuff"?
[08:27] <dr_willis> you want sda3 to be your home directory,, you mount it to /home/
[08:27] <xlinkz0> bekks: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png
[08:27] <nicolette> I had to kill the terminal window and xchat again
[08:27] <dr_willis> want it for video. mount it to /media/videos
[08:27] <nicolette> did i miss anything?
[08:27] <peter09> /join ubuntu+1
[08:27] <Mig_> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109483/
[08:28] <nicolette> jwm --replace doesn't give any errors, but also doesn't work
[08:28] <dr_willis> nicolette:  you should learn to use a console based irc client. ;)
[08:28] <xlinkz0> bekks: 12.04 doesn't have a splash screen like that, the options on the bottom are not present
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> peter09/join #ubuntu+1
[08:28] <Rory> dr_willis, NTFS does actually allow you to mount a volume as a folder, but I agree, the UNIX way seems more obvious and powerful
[08:28] <bekks> xlinkz0: Yeah, because 12.04 uses grub2.
[08:28] <shawn> hello the world !!! please how do active the seLInux on Ubuntu Studio ? thanks !!!
[08:28] <nicolette> lol, i have more pressing concerns..
[08:28] <Rory> Mig_, What is gaosu.rave.org ???
[08:28] <bekks> xlinkz0: Enter the menu, and add the option.
[08:28] <bekks> !grub2 | xlinkz0
[08:28] <vs7> hi, anyone know how to get amd catalyst driver 12.4 and radeon hd 6950 working in 12.04.3 LTS
[08:28] <dr_willis> Rory:  and ive had that totally screw things up. ;) but ive also had windows decide to install to my H: drive giving me no C: D: E: or F; once.. and that really really goofed things up. ;P
[08:29] <Mig_> it's where the packages are located
[08:29] <dr_willis> !selinux | shawn
[08:29] <xlinkz0> bekks: doesn't look like that either ;\
[08:29] <vs7> * 12.04.3 LTS 64-bit
[08:29] <bekks> Mig_: If you have issues with your PPA - and thats what you have - please contact the maintainer of the PPA.
[08:29] <xlinkz0> i don't have grub installed, i'm trying to run ubuntu as a live image
[08:29] <Shal> dr_willis, Can't I mount it directly to media? How do I determine the name to use to mount X partition to the directory?
[08:29] <bekks> xlinkz0: Doesnt need to look like that. Please read the grub2 article on how to get into the grub2 menu.
[08:30] <dr_willis> Shal:  again.. you dont want to mount it to /media/ but to a DIRECTORY in  /media/   like how evverything else gets mounted to.
[08:30] <dr_willis> Shal:  you can use ANY NAME you want.
[08:30] <dr_willis> Shal:  i would avoid spaces in the  name, and fancy characters
[08:30] <shawn> thanks ubottu !!!
[08:30] <Mig_> ah, or perhaps i can change my PPA :)
[08:31] <Shal> dr_willis, the name of the partition, not the name of the directory. Like how do I know if its sda1 or something else?
[08:31] <nicolette> any ideas? It seems pretty clear to me that the fglrx driver is causing this... what should I do now?
[08:31] <dr_willis> Shal:    i think that !mount factoid url mentioned how. you can use 'sudo blkid' or 'sudo fdisk -l'
[08:32] <quick---> hi i forgot my external HDD password wihich i have encrypted with ubuntu. is there any way i can recover it ?
[08:32] <bekks> quick---: No.
[08:32] <dr_willis> Shal:  the /dev/sdXX is the 'device' name    sdXY  where X= a letter for the drive and Y = a number for the partion on the drive
[08:33] <SwashBuckla> how do i restore my ipod?
[08:33] <reisio> quick---: if it's actually encrypted, and if the password was of a decent length, nope
[08:33] <SwashBuckla> note: it is not supported by gtkpod
[08:33] <bekks> SwashBuckla: Connect it to iTunes, click restore.
[08:33] <reisio> SwashBuckla: restore?
[08:33] <SwashBuckla> bekks: i dont have itunes
[08:33] <SwashBuckla> reisio: rythmnbox trashed the filesystem
[08:33] <reisio> quick---: sure you didn't write it down or store it in a file somewhere?
[08:34] <quick---> reisio: bekks:  I use a standard combination of some words . is there any brute force software that i can use.
[08:34] <reisio> SwashBuckla: trashed in what way?
[08:34] <reisio> quick---: yes, but it could potentially take eternity
[08:34] <Shal> dr_willis, Neither of those commands tell me which name for which partition. I need additional information like partition size etc
[08:34] <reisio> quick---: that's the whole point of using a long password
[08:34] <quick---> reisio:  Nope i havn't written it anywhere.
[08:34] <SwashBuckla> reisio: now when i try to listen to music on it, a voice plays "please use itunes to restore this ipod"
[08:34] <Shal> So I know which partition it is talking about
[08:35] <reisio> quick---: you'll probably remember it
[08:35] <bekks> quick---: The answer is: No.
[08:35] <reisio> SwashBuckla: mmm
[08:35] <quick---> reisio: I ll take my chances with the software . Ya i hope i remember it too
[08:35] <reisio> SwashBuckla: well, iPhoos are really only made with specific software in mind
[08:35] <reisio> there are plenty of more sensible portable audio devices, that use simple mass storage and not a proprietary filesystem hierarchy
[08:36] <bekks> quick---: Theoretically, you can try to brute force, practically you arent the FBI/NSA having a supercomputer.
[08:36] <SwashBuckla> reisio: :(
[08:36] <nicolette> just FYI, the graphics card giving me this problem is a Radeon HD 7670M in a Lenovo Ideapad y470
[08:36] <bekks> SwashBuckla: Then use itunes to restore the ipod.
[08:36] <reisio> it'd still take ages even with a supercomputer
[08:36] <SwashBuckla> I will have to find a computer running itunes then
[08:36] <reisio> not much point encrypting data that rich people can easily brute force
[08:36] <quick---> bekks:  who know :D
[08:36] <SwashBuckla> bekks: ok
[08:36] <quick---> reisio: bekks: thanks for the advice guys :)
[08:36] <BlackWeb> use GPG
[08:37] <reisio> SwashBuckla: anyways, bekks already told you how to do it
[08:37] <bekks> BlackWeb: Which rewquires you to remember your password, too.
[08:37] <quick---> \msh nickserv logout
[08:37] <quick---> \msg nickserv logout
[08:37] <BlackWeb> What I do is use GPG, Then Flip the ASC file then GPG again,  only a password if you keep a password on your secret key
[08:37] <bekks> BlackWeb: And that "only a password" I what he forgot.
[08:37] <bekks> BlackWeb: Go figure. ;)
[08:38] <crocket> meh
[08:38] <crocket> nemo is a replacement for nautilus.
[08:38] <BlackWeb> LOL oh...
[08:38] <reisio> get yourself a security token and your system will be more secure and you won't be able to forget the password
[08:39] <reisio> or maybe just some gingko :)
[08:39] <crocket> reisio, Are GNOME devs extorted by corrupt people?
[08:39] <crocket> They're killing nautilus.
[08:40] <dr_willis> i just write my password down on a post-it note. ;)
[08:40] <dr_willis> and hide it on the wall with all the other poste-it-notes for all the other passwords
[08:40] <audrey> apt-get seems to have completely fucked itself, apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:40] <ice9> how to open pst files?
[08:41] <Shal> dr_willis, Still there?
[08:41] <BlackWeb> Then after encryption I sometimes rar the encrypted file and then cat it into a jpg so that it sits on pc and no suspecting person would realize its more then a pic
[08:41] <dr_willis> !find libbz2.so
[08:41] <audrey> does this with any command.
[08:41] <xlinkz0> nomodeset worked ! thanks
[08:41] <dr_willis> Shal:  for a bit longer.  works almost over here for me
[08:41] <mamed> ubuntu 13.04 youtube problem . when i try to open a video it is loaded for a while and then scroll arrow goes back to video start position and then "an error occurred"
[08:41] <audrey> when trying to install it with dpkg -i i get this: dpkg-deb: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:41] <xlinkz0> i have a dvd-rom drive in the computer and would like to test if it is working, can i do that from the live image?
[08:41] <Shal> dr_willis, I asked you something awhile back, I guess you missed it, perhaps we should talk in PM?
[08:42] <audrey> so dpkg and apt-get are both broken.
[08:42] <bekks> xlinkz0: Do you inserted the live image into the dvd drive and boot from it?
[08:42] <dr_willis> Shal:  im at work. so may  have to leave at any time.  others in the channel can cover for me if i got to split. ;)
[08:42] <xlinkz0> bekks: no the live image is from an usb stick
[08:42] <Shal> dr_willis then please answer someone
[08:42] <bekks> xlinkz0: Then insert a dvd...
[08:42] <xlinkz0> i did
[08:42] <peter__> NICK Peter09
[08:42] <dr_willis> Shal:  fdisk -l  shows me all partions on all disks here.
[08:43] <dr_willis> shal well 'sudo fdisk -l'     also 'sudo blkid' shows me all partions on the system with the label and other info
[08:43] <bekks> xlinkz0: Then continue.
[08:43] <BlackWeb> Shal    ls -ltr /dev/disk/by-uuid  or ls -ltr /dev/disk/by-label
[08:44] <tozen> hi all does smb can explane me what 4 i have two folders with anoying background ( http://itmages.ru/image/view/1217318/c37ee87b )
[08:44] <tozen> thx
[08:45] <Shal> dr_willis,  fdisk -l seems to only show me mounted partitions, that being only the flash drive. sudo blkid does not tell me which partition name belongs to which partition
[08:45] <xlinkz0> bekks: continue what?
[08:45] <dr_willis> Shal:  fdisk -l should definatly show more then just mounted partions.
[08:45] <Shal> It only has lines like "/dev/sda1: UUID="1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e" TYPE="ext4" " which is useless
[08:45] <bekks> tozen: The colors depend on the permissions.
[08:45] <dr_willis> Shal:  start mounting them all perhaps?   and see whats in eacch one
[08:45] <Shal> dr_willis but it doesnt
[08:46] <bekks> xlinkz0: Continue using the DVD.
[08:46] <xlinkz0> bekks: when i inserted the dvd nothing happened on the live image, does that mean the dvd-rom isn't working?
[08:46] <BlackWeb> sha1    do  ls -ltr /dev/disk/by-label
[08:46] <Shal> dr_willis mounting them is what I am trying to do
[08:46] <dr_willis> Shal:  i always give my partions lables so o know what ones are what.
[08:46] <dr_willis> Shal:  so you know ONE is /dev/sda1
[08:46] <bekks> xlinkz0: No, it doesnt mean the dvd is not working. You just have to do what you want - manually.
[08:46] <dr_willis> Shal:  and you can see what mountpoints the others are at with the  'mount' command.
[08:46] <Shal> dr_willis, Isn't there a command that will tell me the partitions size, free space?
[08:46] <dr_willis> Shal:  so make a list of what each partion is so you rember.
[08:46] <tozen> bekks: ok thx but what i've to do with this info, pal? :)
[08:46] <xlinkz0> bekks: i entered the home folder but i can't see the dvd-rom in the devices list on te top left list
[08:47] <dr_willis> Shal:  fdisk -l shows me the space here.
[08:47] <dr_willis> in K or somthing
[08:47] <Shal> k?
[08:47] <dr_willis> im not on a ubuntu box so i cant cut/paste any output
[08:47] <bekks> tozen: Now, you have to look at the permissions.
[08:47] <dr_willis> K as in Kilobytes, or somthing.
[08:47] <dr_willis> Shal:  perhaps pastebin the output of those 2 ccommands for the channel to look at
[08:47] <tozen> bekks:  :) ok thx anyway
[08:48] <dr_willis> Shal:  you have shown that sda1 is a linux partion. allready
[08:48] <Shal> dr_willis, Sorry my mistake, I should have said fdisk -l only shows me physical drives, not partitions
[08:48] <crocket> dr_willis, I think nemo serves me right.
[08:48] <dr_willis> Shal:  fdisk -l should show partions on the drives also.    like 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda'  whould show all on sda. by default it shows all drives and all partions  i recall
[08:49] <Shal> They are all linux partitions :p
[08:49] <dr_willis> Shal:  so mount them all.
[08:49] <dr_willis> the mount command will show where they are mounted at now - IF any are mounted
[08:49] <ocooel> Is there anything else out there like Full Circle..?
[08:49] <dr_willis> you can use the 'tune2fs' command to make a proper Label for each partion so you can rember whats what
[08:50] <nicolette> S... switching back to open source drivers did not fix the problem.
[08:50] <nicolette> So*
[08:50] <nicolette> Can anyone please help me here? I'm desperate :(
[08:50] <tozen> bekks: thx sorted now!
[08:50] <dr_willis> nicolette:  try making a new user - see if that user works.
[08:51] <dr_willis> nicolette:  if the new user works.. that points to a user setting problem
[08:51] <Shal> dr_willis, So is there a command that shows partitions total size and free space along with partition names/designations? fdisk does not do this for me
[08:51] <dr_willis> Shal:  i revcal lit doing it for me.. why not pastebin the output for the channel to look at
[08:51] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[08:52] <dr_willis> your partions have no names. if you gave them no labels.
[08:52] <dr_willis> or just go down the list.. make a directory for each one.. and mount it to that directory
[08:52] <Shal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6109555/
[08:52] <dr_willis> sudo mkdir /media/sda1   && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1      repeat for each drive
[08:53] <Shal> sda1 counts as a name, and I know for a fact some of my partitions have specific names
[08:53] <Shal> that I gave them
[08:53] <dr_willis> you are using a gpt partioned drive. ;) fdisk dosent like those.