[00:00] <kudar> i cant cd to it though
[00:00] <kudar> it says it doesn't exist
[00:00] <stdin> kudar: make sure you run that after tar and in the /usr/src directory
[00:00] <WaltzingAlong> rob: and you might just as well follow the beta3 instructions
[00:00] <rob> WaltzingAlong, do you know of a link?
[00:00] <WaltzingAlong> rob:  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[00:00] <rob> WaltzingAlong, thanks :)
[00:00] <ScorpKing> Dragnslcr: do you know the name of the module? sudo modprobe <module> will load it. if it works add it to /etc/moduls so it's loaded at startup.
[00:01] <stdin> rob: the i386 packages are on kubuntu.org for Edgy, they are in universe for gutsy (with amd64 packages)
[00:01] <kudar> stdin: i did. and where does /usr/src come in to this?
[00:01] <rob> stdin, yeah following the link above, so there are amd64 packages which is good :D
[00:01] <stdin> kudar: because that's the place the archive of the source goes
[00:02]  * rob wonders if kde4 is socks-nocking-off better then kde3 yet
[00:02] <stdin> rob: almost :p
[00:03] <rob> stdin, awesome.. I used to use Kde a long time ago and was hoping Kde4 might convince me to convert back :)
[00:03] <kudar> stdin: is this missing something
[00:03] <kudar> stdin: ln -s linux-source-2.6.22 /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source
[00:03] <stdin> rob: it will be great, but it's not great right now
[00:04] <ScorpKing> Dragnslcr: lshw | less and look for multimedia. it will show you what device you have.
[00:04] <stdin> rob: not the packages anyway, from svn it's nice
[00:04] <Dragnslcr> ScorpKing- name of the module is what I'm trying to remember. It's an onboard nVidia sound chip
[00:04] <kudar> oh, not it isnt
[00:05] <Dragnslcr> ScorpKing- MCP55, to be specific
[00:06] <kudar> in the lib/modules/generic folder it says 'source' requires arguments
[00:06] <kudar> stdin: ^---
[00:07] <kudar> its like im trying to put a link somewhere that doesn't exist
[00:07] <kudar> so you put a link in the archive of the source?
[00:07] <stdin> kudar: try "sudo ln -fs linux-source-2.6.22 /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source"
[00:08] <stdin> or "sudo ln -fs /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source"
[00:09] <kudar> stdin: THAT WORKED@!#$
[00:09] <stdin> good
[00:09] <kudar> stdin: what was the difference?
[00:09] <kudar> f?
[00:10] <stdin> -f forces it, overwrites a link that was already there
[00:10] <kudar> ok now here is the question
[00:10] <ScorpKing> Dragnslcr: does lsmod | grep mcp scow anything usefull? also run sudo updatedb and then locate mcp | grep .so and see if you can find the module.
[00:11] <ScorpKing> show*
[00:11] <kudar> stdin: now that i  built the module. how do i know where to install the module
[00:11] <kudar> or will 'make install' take care of that for me
[00:11] <ScorpKing> Dragnslcr: good luck. i have to go.
[00:11] <stdin> "sudo make install" will
[00:11] <smax> hi
[00:11] <ScorpKing> nite guys! have fun. ;)
[00:11] <smax> whats a nice bit-torrent program ?
[00:12] <aj_> ktorrent
[00:12] <vzduch> smax: define 'nice'
[00:13] <kudar> stdin:
[00:13] <kudar> Don't forget to copy firmware to your hotplug's firmware directory
[00:13] <kudar> and have the hotplug tools in place.
[00:13] <kudar> wtf
[00:13] <smax> vzduch: you know... nice
[00:14] <stdin> kudar: I'm guessing it means /lib/firmware/2.6.22-14-generic/
[00:14] <kudar> stdin: what do i put in there?
[00:15] <stdin> what it said, you're the one compiling whatever it is you're compiling
[00:16] <stdin> README and INSTALL files make a good read
[00:16] <scheater6> smax: well, I personally like the fact that Ktorrent is so well integrated into KDE.
[00:17] <user_> всем привет, кто может подсказать как в kopete отключить передачу уведомлений о наборе текста и отправку сообщдений по Ентеру
[00:17] <kudar> stdin: readme and install are not helping
[00:17] <kudar> stdin:
[00:17] <kudar> compatible/iwl4965.ko compatible/iwl3945.ko (s) installed into:
[00:17] <kudar>         /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[00:17] <kudar> shit
[00:17] <kudar> i didn't mean to do that
[00:17] <stdin> !language
[00:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[00:18] <stdin> !ru | user_
[00:18] <ubotu> user_: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[00:18] <aj_> hey, can someone help me with my sound missing and/or kopete crashing when i try to connect to msn?(this happened after i installed gutsy gibbon)
[00:18] <WaltzingAlong> user_:
[00:18] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit
[00:18] <aj_> thanks
[00:18] <kudar> stdin: should i put iwl4965.ko into lib/firmware/s.6.22-14-generic?
[00:19] <stdin> kudar: no, .ko is a module, it get's installed with "sudo make install"
[00:20] <kudar> stdin: it tells me to install the firmware in /lib/firmware
[00:20] <kudar> stdin: but i don tknow what it is it wants me to put in there
[00:20] <kudar> the folder i untarred?
[00:21] <stdin> kudar: would there be any .ucode files in there somewhere?
[00:22] <kudar> ya but im not to that step yet
[00:22] <stdin> well, that's the firmware
[00:22] <kudar> it wants me to wget the ucode file
[00:22] <kudar> ok
[00:22] <stdin> and that firmware/module is in gutsy already
[00:22] <kudar> im a noob man... maybe im misinterpreting it
[00:22] <gribouille> hi
[00:22] <gribouille> can someone tell me how I can install firefox ?
[00:23] <stdin> gribouille: open Adept Manager (KMenu -> System > Adept) and install the package called "firefox"
[00:23] <dedi> can i modify the keymapping of a special keyboard (only numbad keyboard)?
[00:24] <gribouille> stdin: but it is greyed. I can't select it
[00:24] <stdin> gribouille: then try opening konsole and do "sudo apt-get install firefox" (if there is an error then post it to the pastebin site linked in the topic)
[00:25] <gribouille> stdin:
[00:25] <gribouille> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:25] <gribouille> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:25] <gribouille> is only available from another source
[00:25] <Alloosh> hi guys, I just installed windows application using wine, where can I open it, where is program files located>
[00:25] <Alloosh> ?
[00:26] <MurielGodoi_> Alloosh: ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[00:26] <gribouille> stdin: aby idea ?
[00:26] <stdin> gribouille: ok, open adept again, then go to Adept > Manage Repositories  and mark all the boxes on the 1st tab, then it should be installable
[00:27] <kudar> stdin: it tells me to use cp command
[00:27] <kudar> stdin: cp command not found
[00:27] <stdin> not "cp command", the "cp" command
[00:28] <gribouille> stdin: I selected everything except source code
[00:29] <stdin> gribouille: that's ok, it should ask to reload the package cache, say yes then it should be available
[00:29] <Dragnslcr> Anyone else using a sound card/chip that uses the snd_hda_intel module in 7.10? It looks like the module is in a different location now, and modprobe can't load it
[00:29] <gribouille> stdin: is it possible to reload the package cache from the command line ?
[00:30] <yonkeltron> so, i have this issue with sleep...it goes down and comes up fine from sleep. the issue is that i've set my lid to be the switch for it to know to sleep and it only goess down for sleep the first time the lid is closed. after that, when i close the lid it stays on but turns off the screen. however, if i log out of X and log back in, it will restart the pattern of sleep-once and then don't
[00:30] <stdin> gribouille: it is, but you can do it from adept manually to, by clicking Fetch Updates. the command line way is "sudo apt-get update"
[00:31] <ove> good night from denmark to all of you here...
[00:32] <gribouille> stdin: ok, thanks. just a little problem : the version of firefox I got is <IP_ADDRESS>, while the latest firefox vresion is <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:33] <stdin> gribouille: that's the latest version in the repositories, a newer version may be releases sometime
[00:34] <gribouille> stdin: are available packages quite recent or not ?
[00:34] <vzduch> gribouille: at least you have <IP_ADDRESS>, my Fedora 7 still runs on <IP_ADDRESS>  o0
[00:34] <galathal1on> eth0:avah <--- what is avah?
[00:34] <gribouille> vzduch: and opensuse has <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:34] <stdin> galathal1on: avahe
[00:34] <galathal1on> stdin: ?
[00:34] <stdin> gribouille: some packages are newer than others, most are more stable than new
[00:35] <stdin> galathalion: it helps if you don't change your nick when you want me to reply
[00:35] <galathalion> sry :>
[00:35] <gribouille> stdin: are ubuntu packages more recent than debian packages ?
[00:36] <vzduch> gribouille: openSUSE is brandnew
[00:36] <BluesKaj> don't think there's much of a diff between the latest FF versions , other than plugging vulnerabilities running in windows
[00:36] <stdin> galathalion: avahi (not avahe) is the new name for zeroconf, it lets you participate in a network with no DHCP and no static addresses
[00:36] <vzduch> (well, Gutsy is too, but at the time of feature-freeze Firefox was <IP_ADDRESS>, I guess
[00:36] <vzduch> )
[00:36] <stdin> gribouille: ubuntu uses packages from debian unstable, then modifies some a bit
[00:37] <gribouille> stdin: so, they should be fairly recent
[00:37] <fluffman> yeah running a FF that's two versions behind is kinda :P
[00:37] <stdin> gribouille: yeah, there are certain rules about when a package can be updated. but generally you won't find a package more than a couple months out of date from the latest release
[00:38] <galathalion> stdin: how did it happen?
[00:38] <galathalion> stdin: never seen it before
[00:38] <stdin> galathalion: it happens when you get no offers from DHCP
[00:38] <BluesKaj> fluffman, don't think you'd even notive the diff
[00:39] <BluesKaj> notice
[00:39] <fluffman> true
[00:39] <galathalion> stdin: ok thnx
[00:39] <BluesKaj> early adopters think it's so cool , stability is more important IMO
[00:39] <TheDude> how do you get restricted formats?
[00:40] <BluesKaj> anyway ...konq is my browser of choice now
[00:40] <fluffman> ACK! Konqueror!  >:[
[00:40] <BluesKaj> !restricted formats | TheDude
[00:40] <ubotu> TheDude: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:41] <fluffman> I can't get used to it
[00:41] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[00:41] <BluesKaj> i didn't like it at first either , but it's so stable and safe
[00:42] <fluffman> I guess I didn't play around in it much
[00:42] <WaltzingAlong> consistency is fairness
[00:42] <fluffman> but without adblock + noscript, it's going to take a lot to beat Firefox
[00:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, it takes a bit of tweaking and fooling around to get it right
[00:42] <BluesKaj> konq has adblock
[00:42] <angasule> I did aptitude search vdrift and only vdrift-data shows up, it suggests vdrift but it's not in the repos!?
[00:43] <fluffman> BluesKaj: does it have per-site javascript options?
[00:43] <vzduch> !info vdrift
[00:43] <ubotu> Package vdrift does not exist in gutsy
[00:43] <Not_Sure> In Kate, is it possible to increase font size by holding Ctrl and moving mouse wheel up or down?
[00:43] <BluesKaj> yes i beleive so, in the the browser ID options
[00:43] <angasule> !info vdrift-data
[00:43] <ubotu> Package vdrift-data does not exist in gutsy
[00:44] <angasule> btw, I'm in feisty :)
[00:44] <fluffman> awesome, I'm going to check it out now
[00:45] <angasule> Not_Sure: isn't it faster to try it out than to come here and ask? :?
[00:45] <Not_Sure> angasule; I appreciate your help
[00:46] <Not_Sure> In Kate, is it possible to increase font size by holding Ctrl and moving mouse wheel up or down?
[00:46] <Not_Sure> Perhaps it is possible to enable this feature by altering some general KDE parameters?
[00:47] <WaltzingAlong> Not_Sure: other than asking here (too quickly, might i add) what have you tried?
[00:47] <fluffman> BluesKaj: ah, that's nice.  Now if it could sync up my bookmarks with Firefox (which I use at work on my thumbdrive in windows), I would use it at home
[00:48] <fluffman> esp. since firefox has started eating a gig of ram overnight :-\
[00:48] <BluesKaj> fluffman, check the javascript options on domain
[00:48] <Not_Sure> I would highly commend those who would be so kind an answer my question. Thank You in advance.
[00:48] <Alloosh> hi, how come clam updates are not working any more?
[00:49] <fluffman> yeah I found that, BluesKaj
[00:49] <BluesKaj> good
[00:50] <Not_Sure> Again, my problem is that I would like to use KDE's Kate (and/or other applications) to be able to use Ctrl button and mouse wheel. This is a common Windows feature so I would like to be able to implement this feature in KDE.
[00:50] <Not_Sure> Ctrl + mouse wheel should produce zoom in/out effect
[00:51] <Not_Sure> I cordially thank everybody willing to help me
[00:51] <Alloosh> Not_Sure: it does with KDE and GNOME
[00:51] <BluesKaj> mousewheel will switch tabs in konversation
[00:51] <Dragnslcr> It looks like the module for my sound chip moved from /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko to /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko in the new kernel, and modprobe can't find it. Any suggestions?
[00:52] <WaltzingAlong> Not_Sure: i have not seen this happen in ms notepad
[00:52] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: do you have linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic installed?
[00:52] <gribouille> how can I install apache ?
[00:52] <martoya> Dragnslcr: try load with: insmod -f  /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko
[00:52] <WaltzingAlong> gribouille: aptitude install apache ?
[00:52] <Not_Sure> WaltzingAlong: notepad2 in Windows is capable of that functionality
[00:52] <fluffman> Not_Sure: you can change the fonts size in kate by going to settings > configure > fonts & colors
[00:53] <gribouille> Package apache is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:53] <gribouille> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:53] <gribouille> is only available from another source
[00:53] <WaltzingAlong> Not_Sure: if you want ms windows ...
[00:53] <Not_Sure> fluffman: I am aware of the font size feature in Kate, however, I am looking for a keyboard shortcut such as ctrl+mouse wheel
[00:53] <gribouille> where can I get apache from ?
[00:53] <Not_Sure> WaltzingAlong: notepad2 in Windows implements that shortcut
[00:54] <WaltzingAlong> gribouille: aptitude install apache ?  ah best search for it aptitude search apache
[00:54] <fluffman> why would you need that in a text editor?  everything is using the same font...just set it and forget it :-\
[00:54] <WaltzingAlong> gribouille: how about package apache2
[00:54] <fluffman> sorry, I don't know of anything else
[00:55] <Not_Sure> Perhaps I ought to rephrase my question: what is the best text editor for programming that is available under KDE?
[00:55] <WaltzingAlong> vi / emacs here they come
[00:56] <WaltzingAlong> Not_Sure: kate/settings/configure shortcuts/ then you can define a key or combination thereof for in/decreasing the font size
[00:56] <angasule> WaltzingAlong: he wants an editor, not an OS
[00:56] <Lars_G> What's the name of gutsy's kde theme and icon theme etc? I think it wasn't applied correctly
[00:56] <fluffman> if you want a notepad replacement (and then some), go with kate
[00:56] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[00:56] <fluffman> otherwise vi is great
[00:57] <Not_Sure> fluffman: what does vi stand for and what is the 'apt-get' command to install it?
[00:57] <gribouille> WaltzingAlong: aptitude search apache yields p   apache2
[00:57] <fluffman> !vi
[00:57] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[00:57] <WaltzingAlong> !info apache2 | gribouille
[00:57] <ubotu> gribouille: apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.4-3build1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 92 kB
[00:57] <angasule> actually, vim is great, vi is a bit too old
[00:57] <fluffman> Not_Sure: sudo apt-get install vim
[00:57] <WaltzingAlong> gribouille: so install apache2
[00:57] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- I don't have that installed, no
[00:58] <fluffman> I personally use nano from the command line because it's easy :D
[00:58] <gribouille> is there an equivalent of the service command in ubuntu ?
[00:59] <sven_> Hi there! I used kubuntu 7.04 with my dell d620 laptop with ndiswrapper to control my broadcomm network card.. No problems at all. Now I just installed a fresh 7.10 install, and Im trying the same trick, but my wifi network card is not working :(
[00:59] <sven_> ndiswrapper tells me the driver is loaded ok
[00:59] <sven_> /var/log/messages shows me that ndiswrapper loaded ok
[01:00] <sven_> but I dont see the wifi light :(
[01:00] <fluffman> Not_Sure: also, there are little magnifying glasses at the top of kate on the toolbar with a + and - sign...these will enlarge or shrink your font sizes
[01:00] <WaltzingAlong> !bcm43xx
[01:00] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:00] <fluffman> sven_: use the restricted drivers manager
[01:00] <Not_Sure> WaltzingAlong: I have attempted to assign my shortcut using 'Configure shortcuts' menu in Kate. However, my mouse wheel button is not recognized. What would you recommend?
[01:00] <fluffman> that worked for me with bcm43xx
[01:01] <WaltzingAlong> Not_Sure: i would recommend using a text editor for editing text
[01:01] <fluffman> lol @ WaltzingAlong
[01:01] <WaltzingAlong> Not_Sure: following that, grab the source to kate, hack away
[01:01] <WaltzingAlong> at or with :D
[01:01] <sven_> fluffman, Tried that, didnt work.. Whenever I try to install the driver that kubuntu tells me with the restricted manager, a new window pops up and that window is frozen.. cant select anything..
[01:01] <sven_> It does specify a file  though
[01:01] <Not_Sure> WaltzingAlong: where would I be able to download Kate's source code?
[01:02] <sven_> I downloaded the file manually, but where do I install it???
[01:02] <fluffman> sven_: I have no idea beyond that
[01:02] <fluffman> actually, it worked for me in Ubuntu, and I haven't tried it in Kubuntu
[01:02] <WaltzingAlong> Not_Sure: from apt? apt-get source kate i think
[01:03] <sven_> fluffman, it worked perfectly for me in 7.04
[01:03] <WaltzingAlong> sven_: fresh install or upgrade from 7.04?
[01:03] <sven_> WaltzingAlong, there is no explanation for 7.10, only for 7.04 and below
[01:03] <fluffman> I've got to go
[01:03] <fluffman> good luck sven_
[01:04] <fluffman> :D
[01:04] <aj_> ok, got kopete fixed, can someone give me a pointer or two on what to do with my sound(disappeared after gutsy install)
[01:04] <stdin> !away > fluff|away
[01:04] <Dragnslcr> aj_- what sound card/chip?
[01:04] <sven_> WaltzingAlong, fresh install
[01:05] <sven_> fluff|away, thanks!
[01:05] <stdin> Not_Sure: kate is in kdebase, so to get kate's source it'll download kdebase (big package)
[01:05] <aj_> i'm pretty sre its integrated with my motherboard(amd turion 64 x2 TL 50)
[01:05] <Not_Sure> stdin: I have just downloaded kdebase. However, I am uncertain of its location on my harddrive. Could you help me?
[01:05] <aj_> kmixer worked with it fine on fiesty fawn, but now cant seem to find it
[01:06] <CPrompt^> anyone get Kopete to work with GoogleTalk?
[01:06] <WaltzingAlong> CPrompt^: yes
[01:06] <Dragnslcr> aj_- sudo lshw | more
[01:06] <stdin> Not_Sure: it'll be in the same directory you ran apt-get from
[01:06] <Dragnslcr> aj_- look for "multimedia"
[01:06] <CPrompt^> WaltzingAlong : care to share?
[01:06] <stdin> CPrompt^: it does: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[01:07] <muchanic> Not_Sure - if you used apt-get source at the console it'll be in the current directory
[01:07] <Not_Sure> muchanic and stdin: I thank you
[01:08] <CPrompt^> stdin : that's what I did and it says "Host not found"???
[01:09] <stdin> CPrompt^: I used those settings to configure my kopete Server: talk.google.com  Port: 5223
[01:09] <aj_> Dragnslcr: nVidia MCP51 hi-def audi
[01:10] <CPrompt^> stdin : yep.  That's what I have.  "Host not found" though
[01:10] <aj_> i guess its on my video card
[01:10] <stdin> CPrompt^: same settings works here
[01:10] <CPrompt^> stdin : bummer.  not sure why mine isn't working
[01:10] <Spork> Umm... How do Install flash playerin firefox?
[01:11] <WaltzingAlong> !flash
[01:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:11] <Dragnslcr> aj_- it's onboard audio. I have an MCP55
[01:11] <aj_> but why is kmixer not finding it?
[01:11] <Dragnslcr> aj_- I think this is the problem- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-2.6.22/+bug/131577
[01:12] <Dragnslcr> aj_- it seems like the module got moved to a different directory in 7.10, and now modprobe can't find it
[01:12] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: but did you install the package I asked about?
[01:12] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- yup, didn't include that module
[01:13] <crimsun> sure it does
[01:13] <Dragnslcr> aj_- here's a forum topic that may be about the same problem- http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087802.0
[01:13] <aj_> k, thanks
[01:13] <CPrompt^> stdin : nevermind.  imma idiot.  i was using talk.gmail.com DOH!  it's working :)
[01:13] <crimsun><EMAIL_ADDRESS>dlocate snd-hda-intel
[01:13] <crimsun> linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[01:13] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: that's the proper location for the updated (1.0.15rc3) version
[01:16] <WaltzingAlong> CPrompt^: first reaction: it is broken. second reaction: i broke it
[01:16] <tjodalv> exit
[01:16] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: after installing the package that I mentioned, what happens when you `sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel`?
[01:17] <Spork> It wot workiee
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- same problem
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel    FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found.
[01:17] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: please execute `sudo depmod -e`
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- still the same error
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> (after trying modprobe again)
[01:18] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: `modinfo snd-hda-intel`   -> pastebin
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> modinfo snd-hda-intel   modinfo: could not find module snd-hda-intel
[01:19] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: dpkg -l linux-\*-modules-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii
[01:20] <Dragnslcr> ii  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 <IP_ADDRESS>-14.9  Non-free Linux 2.6.22 modules on 386
[01:20] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: err, -386?  No wonder.
[01:20] <Barbaros> join perl
[01:20] <Barbaros> hi guys
[01:20] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)
[01:21] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- done
[01:21] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: now, modinfo snd-hda-intel|grep ^file
[01:22] <Dragnslcr> modinfo: could not find module snd-hda-intel
[01:22] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: dpkg -L linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)|grep hda
[01:23] <Dragnslcr> Nothing
[01:23] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: dpkg -l linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii
[01:23] <Spork> flashplayer-installer can not be found T_T
[01:24] <crimsun> Spork: use flashplugin-nonfree if you're on i386
[01:24] <Spork> i386?
[01:24] <Dragnslcr> ii  linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-386 2.6.22-14.10   Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.22 on i386
[01:24] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/sound/pci/hda
[01:24] <crimsun> Spork: non-amd64, non-ppc, non-sparc, non-xbox, non-ia64, etc.
[01:25] <Spork> ohh.
[01:25] <coreymon77> Spork: does your computer have a intel processor
[01:25] <Dragnslcr> -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-10-15 14:46 snd-hda-intel.ko
[01:25] <Spork> uhh...yeah why?
[01:25] <coreymon77> Spork: then its 1386
[01:25] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: looks fine.  Run `sudo depmod -e`
[01:25] <coreymon77> Spork: aka x86
[01:26] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- done. Still can't find the module
[01:26] <Spork> ok! ...?
[01:26] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/updates/sound/pci/hda
[01:28] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/updates/ doesn't exist
[01:29] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: err, did you install linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-386?
[01:30] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[01:30] <richard> hello all, I'm in the middle of trying to get/install apache2.  I tried using the command: "sudo apt-get install apache2" in the terminal window and i received the following error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:30] <Dragnslcr> Doesn't look like it really has any files in it
[01:30] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: apt-get --reinstall install linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-386
[01:31] <richard> and another error: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> richard- do you have Adept open?
[01:31] <richard> ya i do :-/
[01:31] <richard> i just noticed this now :-)
[01:32] <kudar> anyone know why i would only be pulling down 229 kb/s on wireless?
[01:32] <kudar> i have up to date drivers
[01:32] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- done. Still the same
[01:32] <WaltzingAlong> kudar: using a 104 wep key?
[01:32] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- Adept says that there are only a couple doc files in that package
[01:32] <kudar> waltz: not using any security at the moment
[01:32] <kudar> windows flies
[01:32] <kudar> kubuntu creeps
[01:33] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- and /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko does exist
[01:33] <kudar> i have tried new drivers
[01:33] <coreymon77> kudar: are you nuts?
[01:33] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: what is `uname -r`?
[01:33] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- -386
[01:33] <kudar> corey: i am testing
[01:33] <coreymon77> kudar: it doesnt matter what os you use, your network still should be encrypted
[01:33] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: then /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko isn't relevant.  Note that 2.6.22-14-generic != 2.6.22-14-386
[01:33] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- think just copying the file would work?
[01:33] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: no
[01:34] <kudar> corey: its easier to test without encryption when you are changing wifi utilites
[01:34] <sayers> Hiya! Any reason why Kopete seems to be crashing?
[01:34] <coreymon77> sayers: its a known bug
[01:34] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: have you rebooted?
[01:34] <coreymon77> sayers: being worked on as we speak
[01:34] <sayers> coreymon77: Well that's good :s
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- did you happen to look at the Launchpad link I mentioned a while ago? It seems like a lot of people are having problems
[01:34] <sayers> Beats being a bug that's only me coreymon77 :)
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- not since you started helping me, no. I rebooted an hour or two earlier though
[01:34] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: we can't diagnose that issue until we get that module loaded.
[01:35] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: please reboot
[01:35] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- mkay, back in a couple minutes
[01:36] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit
[01:36] <WaltzingAlong> sayers:
[01:36] <sayers> WaltzingAlong: think it will be in the respos soon?
[01:37] <WaltzingAlong> sayers: it may already be in gutsy-proposed
[01:37] <coreymon77> WaltzingAlong: already being address
[01:38] <MilesG> Dr_willis: hey did you compile conky from source?
[01:39] <WaltzingAlong> coreymon77: what more work is there for it?
[01:39] <MilesG> has anyone compiled conky from source in here?
[01:39] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- done (obviously)
[01:39] <coreymon77> WaltzingAlong: is it fixed?
[01:40] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: lsmod|grep ^snd_
[01:40] <WaltzingAlong> sure
[01:40] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:41] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- nothing
[01:42] <crimsun> please download the troubleshooting script from http://www.trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh, and attach output (a URL) from the script
[01:42] <crimsun> ^ Dragnslcr
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- http://pastebin.ca/746181
[01:45] <sthasthastjh> i got a problem
[01:46] <sthasthastjh> How can i uninstal GNOME?
[01:46] <rcg1984> i'm in the middle of trying to test out if i installed php correctly.  The help document specified: "ou can save the content in a file phpinfo.php and place it under DocumentRoot directory of Apache2 Web server."  Do i save the file to: /etc/apache2?
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> unless you're pressed for diskspace, there's little reason to, honestly...
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> rcg1984- no, that's the configuration directory
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> !purekde | sthasthastjh, I'm not sure how much I trust this, but:
[01:46] <ubotu> sthasthastjh, I'm not sure how much I trust this, but:: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[01:46] <rcg1984> Dragnslcr: oh
[01:47] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: interesting.  sudo apt-get --reinstall alsa-base linux-sound-base
[01:47] <crimsun> err
[01:47] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: interesting.  sudo apt-get --reinstall install alsa-base linux-sound-base
[01:47] <Dragnslcr> rcg1984- you can get the DocumentRoot from Apache's config. It's usually somewhere under /var/www
[01:47] <sthasthastjh> ok, ty
[01:47] <rcg1984> Dragnslcr: ok
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- done
[01:49] <rcg1984> Dragnslcr: I'm one step further to testing this out.  I'm in the www directory but it's apparent that I can save.
[01:49] <rcg1984> i can't*
[01:49] <lavacano201014> rcg1984: sudo chmod 777 /your/www/dir
[01:50] <Dragnslcr> rcg1984- you may need to use sudo. You usually want web files owned by a special user (sometimes www or www-data)
[01:50] <lavacano201014> "sudo su www"?
[01:50] <Dragnslcr> lavacano201014- that would be a bit of a security problem, but go for it
[01:50] <lavacano201014> Dragnslcr: heh
[01:51] <MilesG> rcg1984: my apache install has www-data as the usre
[01:51] <MilesG> has anyone compiled conky from source in here?
[01:51] <lavacano201014> conky...?
[01:52] <rcg1984> Dragnslcr: I'm using Bluefish to create php files and save them, is there anyway to add another user to the owners list?
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- want me to run the alsa-info script again?
[01:52] <lavacano201014> rcg1984: add the user to the www-data group
[01:52] <rcg1984> lavacano201014: ok will do
[01:52] <lavacano201014> then "sudo chmod 77? /your/www/dir"
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> rcg1984- never used Bluefish, so I dunno. Might be easiest to save the files to your home directory and then move/chown them afterwards
[01:53] <lavacano201014> replace the ? with whatever chmod digit you want
[01:53] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: no, just modprobe snd-hda-intel
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- nope, still can't find it
[01:54] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: can't find that file still?
[01:54] <rob_> hi
[01:55] <bobbyd> How can I change my bootsplash from kubuntu back to ubuntu?
[01:55] <bobbyd> oops, wrong channel :)
[01:55] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found.
[01:56] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- I'm checking locate again
[01:56] <pillowpants> whats a good file encryption program?
[01:56] <pillowpants> im just looking to encrypt a few folders
[01:56] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: no, use find
[01:56] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd-hda-intel.ko'
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- nothing
[01:58] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: is / mounted read-only?
[01:58] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- I wouldn't think so
[01:58] <genjix> hi!
[02:00] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: and you're still running -386?
[02:00] <asasasas> Hi
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> Yep
[02:01] <asasasas> I am using Gutsy Gibbon. How can i make a SEARCH without using "Strigi"?
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- looks like grub's menu.lst has entries for both -386 and -generic. Maybe the upgrade picked the wrong kernel to be the default in grub?
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- I honestly didn't notice it in the boot menu. I always just let it pick the first one on its own
[02:03] <blackbsd> hi i just installed kubuntu gusty and the desktop effects are not working like they do in ubuntu, any ideas on how to get this working?
[02:04] <supert0nes> use fusion
[02:04] <jpwhiting|homepc> hello
[02:04] <MurielGodoi_> !compiz | blackbsd
[02:04] <ubotu> blackbsd: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:04] <rob> bots
[02:04] <blackbsd> from the apt tool
[02:04] <blackbsd> thanks
[02:04] <jpwhiting> anyone know how I can detect which kernel module I'm missing to use all the features of my motherboard?
[02:05] <lavacano201014> is excess flood the new netsplit message?
[02:05] <supert0nes> gotta be
[02:05] <jpwhiting> ' /proc/cpuinfo only shows one processor, but I have Hyperthreading turned on and it showed 2 with feisty
[02:05] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- did you catch my last message?
[02:06] <jpwhiting> and nvidia kernel module also can't find my nvidia pcie video card with gutsy, but it worked with feisty...
[02:06] <lavacano201014> jpwhiting: your nVidia card said something bad about the kernel module's mother.
[02:07] <jpwhiting> lavacano201014: probably
[02:07] <jpwhiting> just wish it would appologize and get over it :)
[02:07] <lavacano201014> exactly.\
[02:07] <lavacano201014> damn backslash
[02:07] <jpwhiting> there used to be separate 386 and smp kernel packages iirc
[02:08] <jpwhiting> smp being for multiprocessor machines
[02:08] <jpwhiting> but maybe the 386 kernel has that?
[02:08] <jpwhiting> or maybe I should just use the -generic kernel?
[02:09] <carlos> hola
[02:09] <rcg1984> lavacano201014: I trie doing what you mentioned but i still have no access to write to the www directory
[02:09] <angasule> !es | carlos
[02:09] <ubotu> carlos: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[02:09] <lavacano201014> did you use the chmod?
[02:09] <rcg1984> i changed the group of www to www-data and added this current account to the www-data group and set the chmod
[02:10] <Gun_Smoke> we have an offtopic channel for K don't we?
[02:10] <rcg1984> lavacano201014: i did "sudo chmod 775 /var/www" with out the quotes of course
[02:10] <hellhound> how do you instal compiz fusion in 7.10 kubuntu?
[02:11] <kudar> guys wlan0 isn't even showing up in ifconfig
[02:11] <kudar> how do i get it back
[02:11] <kudar> says there is no such device
[02:12] <Yammeh> !compiz:hellhound
[02:12] <rcg1984> lavacano201014: have any clue as to what I should do now?
[02:12] <Gun_Smoke> well anyhow.. For some reason I logged out earlier today and couldn't log back in.. It would try, trip and go back to the login window
[02:12] <lavacano201014> hellhound: the packages are compiz, compizconfig-settings-manager, compiz-kde and emerald
[02:12] <lavacano201014> rcg1984: youre stuck with "sudo"
[02:12] <yago> hi
[02:13] <alethes> can somebody tell me why the kemnu has items like "_: Entries in KMenu: Blah Blah Blah" ?
[02:13] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- I think I found the package I need for the module- linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386
[02:13] <yago> does anyone can help me with kubuntu 7.10
[02:13] <alethes> I see strings that are similar in app menus, like in ktorrent for example
[02:13] <hellhound> lavacano201014: thank yo
[02:13] <rcg1984> lavacano201014: ?
[02:13] <Gun_Smoke> yago:  what did you break?
[02:13] <hellhound> lavacano201014: does it require a restart?
[02:14] <lavacano201014> hellhound: i dont think so
[02:16] <yago> my problem is that i'd downloaded the iso, but
[02:16] <alethes> can somebody tell me why the kmenu has items like "_: Entries in KMenu: Blah Blah Blah" ?
[02:16] <yago> i dont know if i had burn a CD o can a i use apt-adapter for it
[02:17] <kudar> how to you force a remove directory?
[02:17] <alethes> rm -rf
[02:17] <kudar> what does the r stand for
[02:17] <alethes> recursive
[02:17] <kudar> werd
[02:17] <kudar> thanks
[02:17] <alethes> it'll remove all the contents
[02:18] <alethes> np
[02:18] <alethes> is the menu screwed on the ISO for everybody?
[02:18] <kudar> no
[02:18] <alethes> wonder why mine went fubar
[02:18] <yago> no
[02:19] <Gun_Smoke>  yago is english your native language?
[02:19] <sam64> Im having troubles after logging in in the default mode
[02:20] <yago> no, I'm from Spain sorry...
[02:20] <sam64> nothing turns on - I cant even use a console
[02:20] <Gun_Smoke> yago: No problem.
[02:21] <Gun_Smoke> yago: What do you want to do?  Burn a new Kubuntu CD from ISO?
[02:21] <yago> Gun_Smoke, how can i install kubuntu 7.10, only using my download?
[02:21] <yago> no
[02:21] <sven_> test
[02:21] <yago> installing new kubuntu 7.10 using only the file iso,
[02:21] <Gun_Smoke> yago: do you currently have kubuntu?
[02:22] <sven_> Is it my imagination or is 7.10 having a whole lot more problems than 7.04?? I had almost no trouble with 7.04, but 7.10 is  giving me hell.. I got a long list of problems I just solved, and now I got really bad networking problems (looks like I can forget wifi, the restricted manager simply hangs, ndis is a nogo).. what happened?
[02:22] <yago> yes i do
[02:22] <Gun_Smoke> 7.04?
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- thanks for all your help. Finally got it working with that package
[02:22] <Gun_Smoke> yago: 7.04?
[02:22] <yago> yes i do
[02:22] <yago> I have now 7.04
[02:22] <sven_>  Is it my imagination or is 7.10 having a whole lot more problems than 7.04?? I had almost no trouble with 7.04, but 7.10 is  giving me hell.. I got a long list of problems I just solved, and now I got really bad networking problems (looks like I can forget wifi, the restricted manager simply hangs, ndis is a nogo).. what happened?
[02:23] <alethes> sven_: yeah, so far I'm less than enthused about 7.10 :/
[02:23] <yago> and I'd download the iso for 7.10
[02:23] <Gun_Smoke> yago: Then what you want to do is called a Distro Upgrade.
[02:23] <Jucato> sven_: can you not repeat the question/complaint every minute?
[02:23] <Gun_Smoke> !upgrade
[02:23] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:23] <sven_> When I use knetworkmanager to start my wifi its throwing down my eth0 cable network!! Its even removing the configuration of it..
[02:23] <yago> yes exactly!
[02:24] <sven_> Jucato, I dont even know what gets posted or not, thats the problem!  My network interface is going on and off every minute here
[02:24] <Gun_Smoke> yago: Enjoy..
[02:24] <sven_> right now, I got eth0 up, but knetwork manager does not see any network interfaces anymore...
[02:24] <kudar> im so sick of my wireless being slow
[02:24] <kudar> i used intel developmental drivers and it didn't work at all
[02:24] <kudar> use the stable new ones and its slow as crap
[02:24] <kudar> i just dont understand
[02:24] <yago> Gun_Smoke thank you!
[02:24] <yago> You are my IDOL!
[02:25] <Gun_Smoke> yago: Your welcome.
[02:25] <alethes> wonder if that distro upgrade thing ever works heh
[02:25] <alethes> I try it, it breaks packages, and I just end up reinstalling from an iso
[02:26] <sam64> !shell
[02:26] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:29] <yago> Gun_Smoke, I have downloaded the iso for kubuntu, and my question is
[02:30] <yago> I have it burn on a CD o can I use the file without use a CD, using apt-adapter?
[02:31] <sam64> what is the shortcut to temperaraly leave the GUI?
[02:31] <Gun_Smoke> yago: I think what you are asking is if you can update uding apt-get from CD not over the network.  Is that correct?
[02:31] <alethes> sam64: ctrl-alt-F1 - ctrl-alt-F6
[02:31] <sam64> thanks
[02:32] <alethes> hmmm suppose I shoulda told him how to get back
[02:32] <yago> no, if I can update using the file, is that i dont have a cd for burning until tomorrow, that i can buy one
[02:33] <Gun_Smoke> yago: Yes you must burn it to CD to use the file you downloaded.
[02:33] <vbgunz> what is the default elevator argument in kubuntu grub? I've had cfq for a very long time. is it cfq? is it better?
[02:33] <yago> ok, now I undrestand!
[02:34] <yago> thank you Gun_Smoke
[02:34] <Gun_Smoke> yago: But if you are using 7.04 you do not need a CD for anything.
[02:34] <Gun_Smoke> yago: You can just use the update manager.
[02:34] <yago> why?
[02:35] <yago> but if i use update manager i need download the same, or no?
[02:36] <Gun_Smoke> You will download and install all upgrades the same way you download and install updates.  For example when you do sudo apt-get update
[02:37] <yago> can i expecific a file? for this?
[02:37] <Gun_Smoke> yago: have you tried asking your question at #ubuntu-es ?
[02:37] <yago> yes
[02:37] <Gun_Smoke> No one around..
[02:37] <yago> and I dont find nothing
[02:38] <Gun_Smoke> yago:  Ok... hold on..
[02:38] <yago> anyone sorry ;-(, but Gun_Smoke don't worry, tomorrow i'll buy a CD
[02:38] <Gun_Smoke> No need to spend money.  This is easy.. You just need some code.
[02:39] <yago> can i use apt-get /home/yago/Desktop/kubuntu.iso
[02:40] <yago> or anything like this, I meant expecificand where is file iso?
[02:40] <Gun_Smoke> yago: No.  have have good network connection?
[02:41] <alethes> if nothing else, couldn't he mount the ISO and extract the packages for apt?
[02:41] <yago> yes 300k/s
[02:41] <yago> but the problem is that that servers are too busy!
[02:42] <fizzmahon> hey guys just installed compiz but i cant find fusion-icon to switch window managers, where can i find it =) ?
[02:43] <mohd> fizzmahon: compiz --replace
[02:44] <mohd> Guys, I have used configure-desktop for 4 virtual desktops, but I am only getting 2. Does anyone know why?
[02:44] <Gun_Smoke> yago:  So how about getting the kubuntu 7.10 alternated CD and then install from there.  Get the torrent.. it fast
[02:45] <fizzmahon> mohd: im getting these wierd boxes around all my menu's, any idea what it is?
[02:46] <mohd> fizzmahon: Hmm. I haven't ever seen weird boxes appear around my menus. Can you get me a screenshot?
[02:46] <lostnoob> can anyone tell me how to get my wireless card re-enabled? It was working fine until I connected to a wired lan. Ever since my wireless can't be detected.
[02:46] <fizzmahon> mohd: sure! just a moment
[02:46] <yago> Gun_Smoke, thank you for your help, but my battery is out in a few min
[02:46] <yago> thank you my friend!
[02:47] <Gun_Smoke> Ok... too bad..
[02:47] <yago> bye!
[02:47] <andre_> ola
[02:47] <Gun_Smoke> you need the 7.10 alternate CD to upgrade from CD.. and still need to burn it.
[02:47] <Gun_Smoke> Sorry I couldn't help more.
[02:48] <yago> thank you, Gun_Smoke, it is enogh!
[02:48] <andre_> some brazilian here??
[02:48] <yago> good luck Gun_Smoke!
[02:48] <Gun_Smoke> I'll be around tomorrow if you need help same time.
[02:48] <yago> andre yesterday in Brasil F1 was great!
[02:48] <yago> I'll see you tomorrow Gun_Smoke!
[02:49] <andre_> rsrsrs
[02:49] <Gun_Smoke> addios
[02:49] <andre_> you see the F1
[02:49] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how come after leaving my computer running it freezes and stays at using 100 % of the CPU and i have to restart X
[02:49] <yago> hasta luego Gun_Smoke!
[02:49] <andre_> one question!!!!!
[02:49] <fizzmahon> mohd: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/723/boxesrg0.png
[02:50] <yago> yes  andre, I'll see you tomorrow
[02:50] <fizzmahon> mohd: and when maximized windows are cut off by the taskbar
[02:50] <andre_> what i do , to mylinux accept all icons themes???
[02:50] <andre_> i use kubuntu 7.4
[02:50] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how come after leaving my computer running it freezes and stays at using 100 % of the CPU and i have to restart X
[02:51] <mohd> Fizzmahon: How exactly did you install compiz?
[02:51] <dsmith_> AT0M1CB0MB3R: screensaver one?
[02:51] <lostnoob> can anyone tell me how to get my wireless card re-enabled?
[02:52] <lostnoob> plz!
[02:52] <fizzmahon> mohd: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compizconfig-settings-manager sexy-python
[02:52] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> AT0M1CB0MB3R: huh?
[02:52] <dsmith_> AT0M1CB0MB3R: screensaver on?
[02:52] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dsmith_: yeah
[02:53] <dsmith_> what type of pc?
[02:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> like amd?
[02:53] <dsmith_> desktop or laptop?
[02:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> desktop
[02:53] <dsmith_> whats the size of your vid card?
[02:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> like in megs?
[02:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> 256
[02:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> its agp
[02:54] <dsmith_> hmmm mine does that at times
[02:54] <dsmith_> I have to restart
[02:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> why
[02:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> do you know why
[02:55] <pestilence> how come kubuntu no longer opens up a window when i put a cd in?
[02:55] <pestilence> same if i attach an external hd
[02:55] <pestilence> (gutsy)
[02:55] <fizzmahon> getting boxes around menus with compiz http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/723/boxesrg0.png any ideas?
[03:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dsmith_: do you know what powernowd is
[03:03] <lavacano201014> !vino
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <lavacano201014> ah
[03:04] <lavacano201014> so i must ask the humans
[03:04] <lavacano201014> what the hell is vino?
[03:04] <Jucato> vino?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> err wine , maybe
[03:10] <fulat2k> hi folks, i just upgraded to gutsy from feisty on a dell latitude d410.  somehow the built in wifi pro/wirless 2200bg isn't working.  but i can see that the ipw2200 module is loaded via dmesg.  any ideas?
[03:11] <dystopianray> i have ipw2200 and it works without issues, i'm not sure why yours wouldn't be
[03:11] <jpwhiting> fulat2k: when I upgraded to gutsy my wireless was ra0 with feisty, but now it's wlan0_rename for some reason
[03:12] <dystopianray> jpwhiting: you can probably adjust a udev rule to fix that naming
[03:14] <Jucato> whoa! jpwhiting's in here!? O.o
[03:14]  * Jucato runs for cover
[03:16] <fulat2k> jpwhiting: hmm.... in feisty it was eth1.  how can i make sure?
[03:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i disable DPMS
[03:18] <ardchoille> AT0M1CB0MB3R: Sorry about earlier, I had an emergency here.
[03:19] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille: i figured it out
[03:19] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille: dont worry about it
[03:19] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille: how do i disable DPMS? if you know....
[03:20] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: do you know how to disable DPMS?
[03:20] <Jucato> nope
[03:20] <jpwhiting> Jucato: why? I'm not going to try to motivate you to get back to kde dev ;-)
[03:20] <jpwhiting> fulat2k: eth1 was your wireless?
[03:20] <Jucato> haha :)
[03:20] <jpwhiting> dystopianray: I hope so
[03:21] <jpwhiting> it's annoying to have ra0 and wlan0_rename both
[03:21] <ardchoille> AT0M1CB0MB3R: lol, I don't even know what DPMS is
[03:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> never mind
[03:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> lol
[03:22] <jpwhiting> Jucato: yes, I do read planet every once in awhile
[03:22] <Jucato> hahah!  I've written very small patches (the biggest one would probably for d3lphin)....
[03:24] <jpwhiting> oh
[03:25] <lespea> g'evening
[03:26] <dsmith_> karamba is buggy
[03:26] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dsmith_: that was my problem
[03:26] <fulat2k> jpwhiting: well, i think it still is.  but i can't get it to scan for any APs
[03:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> is there another program that has widgets like that dsmith_
[03:27] <fulat2k> jpwhiting: in interfaces, there's eth0, eth1 and the usual lo
[03:28] <jpwhiting> fulat2k: ah, dunno
[03:28] <fulat2k> jpwhiting: i remember there's place where i can see where the interfaces are aliased as...
[03:29] <jpwhiting> fulat2k: in feisty knetworkmanager showed ra0 but it now doesn't show any interfaces at all
[03:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> fulat2k: whats the problem
[03:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> my problem is that after leaving computer on for an hour or maybe 10 minutes my computer freezes and uses 100% CPU but if i take off all superkaramba themes except one (the CPU monitor) it will stay idle for hours to no end i jsut dont get it i really like the superkaramba themes too ive seen people having the same probem as me on google nobody had a fix what so ever
[03:31] <fulat2k> AT0M1CB0MB3R: wifi used to work in feisty doesn't work in gutsy.  i can see the ipw2200 module is loaded in dmesg.  but in knetworkmanager, it doesn't see any wireless connections.
[03:31] <jpwhiting> fulat2k: do you have wireless set up to use an AP at home in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:32] <mneptok> AT0M1CB0MB3R: so then don't use those SK! widgets
[03:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> mneptok: nobody else makes widgets
[03:32] <mneptok> AT0M1CB0MB3R: so?
[03:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> mneptok: they look nice any help my theme come together
[03:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> mneptok: how do i uninstall superkaramba
[03:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nvm mneptok
[03:33] <mneptok> AT0M1CB0MB3R: sudo apt-get autoremove superkaramba
[03:34] <fulat2k> jpwhiting: nopes.  everything is auto
[03:35] <mneptok> AT0M1CB0MB3R: when an open source app does not work the way you want, you have 3 options. - 1. fix it yourself. - 2. file a coherent and salient bug report and track its progress. - 3. don't use that app.
[03:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> mneptok: whats up with the autoremove
[03:35] <mneptok> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it will also remove any packages upon which only SK! depends
[03:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> 4.find a fix :]
[03:36] <mneptok> AT0M1CB0MB3R: uhh.
[03:36] <mneptok> AT0M1CB0MB3R: if a fix was findable, don't you think someone would have found it?
[03:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> mneptok: how d i make konq my defaultfile browser not cappy dolphin
[03:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> mneptok: i know what your saying
[03:36] <Jucato> !dolphin | AT0M1CB0MB3R
[03:36] <ubotu> AT0M1CB0MB3R: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[03:38] <needles> does anyone know a good file encryption program with a front end?
[03:38] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: thanks big time
[03:38] <Jucato> !info kgpg
[03:38] <ubotu> kgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 454 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[03:38] <miles_> I need some help with this one-liner,  im trying to see all my running processes and kill a certain one
[03:38] <miles_> kill | ps ax | grep conky        I want to kill conky
[03:39] <miles_> but that isnt right, could someone point me in the right direction please
[03:39] <mneptok> needles: GPG
[03:39]  * Jucato points to kgpg above
[03:39] <dsmith_> dolphin is nice
[03:39] <Jucato> miles_: why not just "killall conky" ?
[03:39] <mneptok> miles_: how's your regex-fu?
[03:39] <needles> thanks
[03:39] <miles_> mneptok: weak
[03:39] <miles_> Jucato: ah
[03:40] <mneptok> miles_: then you're not gonna do it on one line :)
[03:40] <mneptok> miles_: Jucato has the right idea
[03:43] <miles_> lol
[03:43] <miles_> yea, kill and killall are a couple things I really should know more on
[03:43] <miles_> im writing a lil bash script to start and stop conky similiar to one youd find in /etc/init.d
[03:44] <tony> Does anyone know how to get CBT Nuggets to run on Kubuntu?
[03:46] <fulat2k> got it working.. :P
[03:49]  * miles_ smiles at his script
[03:49]  * miles_ in a non-creep way
[03:50] <needles> im not seeing much in the way of file encryption with kgpg
[03:51] <gesslar> i'm trying to upgrade to 7.10 using the screenshots from kubuntu.org but my adept manager doesn't look the same. when i go to "Adept -> Manager Repositories", I don't get a dialog box, instead i get what looks like the config file and disabled out lines are grey..
[03:51] <gesslar> i'm in feisty, now
[03:52] <gesslar> so i can't do as it recommends and enable "recommended updates" and "pre-released updates" repositories
[03:52] <gesslar> as they're not listed
[03:53] <Jucato> gesslar: install software-properties-kde
[03:55] <gesslar> i'm installing that now, thanks
[03:55] <shawnsonium> so, yeah. I upgraded to 7.10 and now the xorg-ati driver shows me a beautiful black screen on X startup. what the deuce...
[03:56] <gesslar> thanks a lot for your help
[03:56] <shawnsonium> i'm running under vesa right now, but i miss the speediness i had with feisty + xorg-ati
[03:56]  * gesslar thanks Jucato
[03:56] <Jucato> sure
[03:57] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> shawnsonium: use the restricted drivers
[03:58] <kudar> how can slow wireless internet NOT be a known bug
[03:58] <kudar> i have ugraded drivers, reinstalled and my wireless is slow as balls
[03:58] <shawnsonium> alright, i'll give that a go. thanks
[04:00] <kudar> yellow
[04:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> omg my computer is running so much faster after ditching super karamba
[04:01] <Jucato> some SK themes are buggy and resource intensive.
[04:01] <Jucato> some are properly done though
[04:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: if i could have superkaramba running correctly my linux would be so sexy
[04:02] <Jucato> just look for a good theme
[04:02] <Jucato> (check the ratings of the theme)
[04:02] <kudar> jucato: what up. check out my speed results to a server right by me
[04:02] <kudar> jucato: http://www.speedtest.net/result/195144250.png
[04:03] <Jucato> wow. funky. no idea though
[04:03] <kudar> who me?
[04:03] <kudar> you saying funky to me?
[04:03] <Jucato> yeah I have no idea what's causing your slow internet (if you consider that slow...)
[04:03] <kudar> i consider it slow yes
[04:04] <Jucato> my download doesn't even reach 512kbps :)
[04:04] <kudar> its cable and im  uploading faster than dling
[04:04] <kudar> you have dsl?
[04:04] <Jucato> yep. but a low subscription
[04:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> heres mine http://www.speedtest.net/result/195144731.png
[04:05] <Jucato> bah!
[04:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> bah what
[04:05] <Jucato> making me jealous
[04:05] <dystopianray> does anyone have any idea when the kopete fix will hit gutsy-updates ?
[04:06] <Jucato> dystopianray: not sure. unless you're on 64-bit, there's a fix already (install a .deb)
[04:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i got a better result this time Jucato http://www.speedtest.net/result/195145109.png
[04:07] <dystopianray> Jucato: there are debs for both 32-bit and 64-bit
[04:07] <Jucato> that's good then
[04:12] <smorg> whats the thing called again to convert tar to deb?
[04:13] <needles> what does "end with an empty line" mean
[04:14] <Jucato> smorg: no such thing. there's checkinstall, but you need to do some intermediate steps
[04:14] <hydrogen> most unix tools expect files to have a blank line at the end
[04:14] <Jucato> !checkinstall | smorg
[04:14] <ubotu> smorg: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:14] <needles> hydrogen : what do you do though?
[04:14] <needles> hit enter?
[04:14] <hydrogen> yes
[04:14] <smorg> ah ty
[04:14] <Jucato> yes
[04:14] <needles> space so theres another line
[04:14] <hydrogen> at the bottom of the file
[04:14]  * Jucato is not hydrogen
[04:15] <dsmith_> http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=22198_ServerFiles9.jpg
[04:15] <dsmith_> thers mine
[04:15] <smorg> trying to get firefox going... the one in the kubuntu repository seems always out of date
[04:15] <hydrogen> or the simplest way, echo >> filename
[04:15] <dsmith_> seems kinda slow
[04:15] <smorg> but only comes as a tar bundle
[04:15] <Jucato> smorg: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[04:15] <Jucato> !info firefox
[04:15] <smorg> 7.10
[04:15] <needles> "Enter the user ID. End with an empty line: "
[04:15] <hydrogen> firefox--
[04:15] <hydrogen> but
[04:15] <hydrogen> before we get into this discussion again!
[04:15] <Jucato> wehere's the bot..
[04:15] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8960 kB, installed size 26008 kB
[04:15] <melody> Hello.  I'm using adept package manager, try to do a distrobution upgrade.... but it keeps failing at a certain point downloading the updates
[04:15] <needles> im enting my UID in and hitting enter, and it keeps asking me to do it again and again
[04:16] <hydrogen> i'm going fooding
[04:16] <smorg> yea should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:16] <Jucato> smorg: well wait for updates :)
[04:16] <hydrogen> needles: you hit enter twice?
[04:16] <smorg> :/
[04:16] <Jucato> <IP_ADDRESS> isn't so old
[04:16] <smorg> or I could try iceweasel
[04:16] <IronHans> hey guys how do i configure java with firefox??
[04:17] <dystopianray> IronHans: you mean you want to install java for firefox?
[04:17] <IronHans> yep
[04:17] <melody> Can I do the distro 'upgrade' from an installed version of Tribe 5?
[04:18] <dystopianray> IronHans: the latest java from sun?
[04:18] <Jucato> melody: just do normal upgrade
[04:18] <dystopianray> melody: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:18] <IronHans> look, i've installed with adept but it doesn't work
[04:18] <Jucato> IronHans: install sun-java6-plugin
[04:19] <melody> dystopianray: I did that..and it came back with 0 upgrades.
[04:19] <Jucato> melody: that means you're up to date
[04:19] <Jucato> if you upgraded daily from Tribe 5
[04:19] <melody> then why is adept manager telling me there is a distro upgrade and has a big ole button there for it?
[04:20] <Jucato> it's a bug
[04:20] <melody> aaah.
[04:20] <melody> can I get around that?  convince it I'm good to go?
[04:20] <dystopianray> ignoer it
[04:20] <Jucato> ignore it until the bugfix arrives
[04:20] <needles> is it possible to encrypy a folder in one command from gpg?
[04:21] <melody> dystopianray: will I be able to continue to get normal updates then? (just ignoring the distro upgrade button)
[04:21] <Jucato> melody: es
[04:21] <Jucato> yes
[04:21] <dystopianray> melody: as, it's a bug, just ignore the distro upgrade thing
[04:21] <dystopianray> s/as/yes/
[04:21] <melody> okay. thank you.
[04:22] <melody> btw, is googleearth not in the repositories?
[04:22] <dystopianray> melody: it is not
[04:22] <frank23> melody: it's in medibuntu right now
[04:23] <IronHans> tnx jucato
[04:23] <draik> For those who have upgraded to 7.10... How long did it take to upgrade everything?
[04:26] <kudar_> what cd burning utility should i use?
[04:26] <IronHans> it depends, i think it must take 3 hours
[04:26] <melody> k3b
[04:26] <Jucato> kudar_: k3bn
[04:26] <Jucato> kudar_: k3b
[04:26] <Jucato> draik: depends on your server's load
[04:26] <kudar_> im about to burn gentoo 2007 iso
[04:26] <draik> US
[04:26] <dystopianray> kudar_: definetly k3b
[04:26] <kudar_> gonna see if gentoo lets my wifi card work properly
[04:26] <kudar_> thanks
[04:27] <dystopianray> kudar_: haha, good luck with that
[04:27] <dystopianray> kudar_: what card do you have anyway?
[04:27] <kudar_> dystopianray: why you say that
[04:27] <kudar_> intel pro 4964agn
[04:27] <kudar_> 4965agn
[04:27] <dystopianray> doesn't gutsy have the iwlwifi driver?
[04:27] <kudar_> yes
[04:28] <kudar_> i have even uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers
[04:28] <kudar_> no luck
[04:28] <dystopianray> but it doesn't work?
[04:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> whats the best instant messaning program?
[04:28] <kudar_> its slow
[04:28] <kudar_> very slow
[04:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> whats the best instant messaging program?
[04:28] <dystopianray> AT0M1CB0MB3R: they're all pretty crap
[04:28] <kudar_> it works
[04:28] <kudar_> its just slow
[04:28] <kudar_> atomic: pidgin
[04:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> kudar_: ok
[04:28] <Jucato> !best | AT0M1CB0MB3R
[04:28] <ubotu> AT0M1CB0MB3R: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:28] <dystopianray> AT0M1CB0MB3R: kopete
[04:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !stink
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stink - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <dystopianray> AT0M1CB0MB3R: what IM networks do you want to use and do you want to use webcam?
[04:29] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: word of advice, ask a "what is the best" question and you'll get so many different answers
[04:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dystopianray: yes
[04:29] <Jucato> that leaves you with kopete then
[04:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: i realized that lol
[04:29] <Jucato> pidgin afaik still doesn't have webcam support
[04:29] <dystopianray> AT0M1CB0MB3R: kopete supports msn and yahoo webcam
[04:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dystopianray: i have a webcam sight so im all good ill just use pidgin
[04:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> site
[04:32] <IronHans> i can't close java applet windows, why?
[04:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> bye everybody :[
[04:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> im tired bed time its 8:34pm here but i woke up at 2:00am so im a little tired so bye
[04:36] <soulwarp> can anyone recommend a decent torrent program other than ktorrent?
[04:36] <soulwarp> open source
[04:36] <ubunturos> bittorrent, and Ktorrent come with kubuntu
[04:39] <soulwarp> i used to like ktorrent untill they took the options to select seperate files to download from torrents that provide multiple files
[04:39] <soulwarp> in the new kubuntu upgrade
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[04:50] <Dr_willis> soulwarp,  clarify that a bit? I can select sepreate files from torrents...
[04:50] <Dr_willis> i can tag them to not be downloaded, or first, last, ect..
the client changes since 7.04-7.10 transition
not sure where it's now located
[04:51] <strtok> hey, anyone know how to turn off touchpad tap mouse clicks ? (where if you tap the pad, it's a mouse click)
[04:51] <Dr_willis> using 7.10 right now. Ive not noticed any changes.  But i dont use a lot of the  options
[04:51] <strtok> i've found it's wayyy too sensitive
[04:51] <Dr_willis> strtok,  thers some synaptic touch pad tools
[04:53] <strtok> Dr_willis: tpconfig and gsynaptics?
[04:54] <Hoondie> hey people, whats the command to access the restricted drivers application?
you will have to change your repository in your adept package manager
look for the unchecked options
[04:55] <ray_> Hey... I have kind of a weird question
[04:55] <Hoondie> soulwarp: i thought it came with gutsy?
[04:56] <ray_> Will kernels from other distros work if I compile them?
[04:56] <ray_> Like, if I use a Gentoo kernel with Kubuntu on top of it
the repository is there, it's just unchecked by default
[04:56] <Dr_willis> !find synaptics
[04:56] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, libsynaptics-dev, libsynaptics0 (and 2 others)
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Hoondie,  i normally install /use 'restricted-manager' tool
[04:57] <Dr_willis> ray_,  why do you need to do this?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[04:57] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[04:58] <soulwarp> maybe he is bored :)
[04:59] <ray_> It's just that I don't like the kubuntu kernel
[04:59] <Dr_willis> or into S&M
[04:59] <Dr_willis> ray_,  well thats.. vague. :)
[04:59] <Hoondie> Dr_willis: thanks, installing now :)
[05:00] <ray_> I don't like how large the resolution is set in the boot and that there is no color.  Ubuntu's kernel seems to have removed the options to change it.
[05:00] <Dr_willis> large the res in the boot? You mean the framebuffer settings?
[05:00] <Alethes> Failure registering capabilities with primary security module. <-- I get this error when I try to start bind9
[05:00] <Alethes> what's giving me this error?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> i always totally disable framebuffer. :)
[05:00] <soulwarp> he means the login menu i think
[05:01] <ray_> Yes, the login menu, but also the messages when it's booting up
[05:01] <ray_> and just everything not in x
[05:01] <soulwarp> sometimes the login menu is larger than the desktop resolution settings
[05:01] <soulwarp> i noticed that too
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  Thats because the USER can have their own X resolution setting. Im not aware of this being a kernel issue at all.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> you can set the default res in the xorg.conf and kdm will use that.
[05:02] <ray_> In the Gentoo kernel (and I'm assuming the vanilla kernel) there was an option to choose that resolution...but I can't find it in the ubuntu kernel
[05:02] <Dr_willis> well have fun :)
[05:03] <ray_> I'm not talking about in the x server
[05:03] <Dr_willis> I dont think gentoo uses a vanilla kernel.  And ym not sure what ya mean by Login menu then. If you are nor refering to KDM.
[05:04] <ray_> ctrl-alt-f1
[05:04] <ray_> bash
[05:04] <Dr_willis> ray_,  thats just the consoles.. if you are using the framebuffer you can set the res of that on the fly
[05:04] <Dr_willis> !info fbset
[05:04] <ubotu> fbset: framebuffer device maintenance program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-19ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 100 kB, installed size 324 kB
[05:04] <juan> hi!
[05:04] <ray_> Oh thanks : )
[05:04] <ray_> I guess I just haven't found it yet
[05:05] <ray_> lo
[05:05] <Dr_willis> and the kernel option to set those is like vga=791 or similer
[05:05] <Dr_willis> I always use the 'nofb' option to totally disable the framebuffer and give me a 'old fashined' console screen
[05:05] <juan> does anyone know how to tell adept installer to stop reminding me about one specific package
[05:05] <slimjimflim_> hi. i lost my "start button" how do i get it back?
[05:05]  * Dr_willis rembers when the framebuffer was cutting edge and everyone had these high hopes for it.. now it seems its just used for purty splash type screens.
[05:06] <ray_> info fbset
[05:06] <ray_> oh whoops
[05:06] <Dr_willis> slimjimflim_,  right click on the panel and use the 'add to panel item'
[05:06] <slimjimflim_> i mean i lost the kmenu
[05:07] <Dr_willis> add applet to panel ---> Kmenu
[05:07] <slimjimflim_> you mean 'add new panel'?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> i mean 'add applet to panel' :)
[05:08] <Dr_willis> The K menu is just one of many panel applets.
[05:08] <juan> dr willis is a very fast typer
[05:08] <Dr_willis> add the 'settings applet' also - Its my Fave. :)
[05:09] <Dr_willis> juan,  yep. :) and some times i even spell things right
[05:09] <slimjimflim_> ok, thanks
[05:09] <Dr_willis> whats amazing is how i type.. i got full use of my left hand.. but the right hand i use one finger to type with.. since i broke the hand years ago..
[05:09] <Dr_willis> and cant wiggle the fngers sideways as much. :)
[05:10] <juan> Dr_willis, do you know by any chance jow to tell my adept manager to stop reminding me about a specific program?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> really really got my 'typing' teacher mad. :)
[05:10] <Dr_willis> I rarely use adept manager. sorry cant help ya there. Whats its reminding you to do?
[05:10] <slimjimflim_> i also have a problem where my resolution gets reset whenever i restart x, maybe off-topic, but is there a kde setting for that?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> slimjimflim_,  thats odd. the xorg.conf sets the resolutions. You could set the default res in there.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[05:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:11] <Dr_willis> now a days X querys the monitor for what res's it can habndle and uses that info.
[05:11] <juan> to upgrade freepops, but if i do, i wont be able to use "localhost" it doesnt connect to it with that version
[05:11] <Dr_willis> xorg.conf often dosent need the info.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> !info freepops
[05:11] <ubotu> freepops: POP3 interface to several webmail sites. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1 (gutsy), package size 259 kB, installed size 1188 kB
[05:11] <Dr_willis> you got a webmail server on localhost?
[05:11] <juan> yep, yahoo on kmail
[05:12] <Dr_willis> set up a different name for the machine in the hosts file that points to <IP_ADDRESS> perhaps.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> or use its actual ip#
[05:13] <DaveQB> whats happened to kdrc in Gutsy ??
[05:13] <DaveQB> i cant for the life of my find it
[05:13] <DaveQB> my=me
[05:13] <soulwarp> moo
[05:14] <juan> Dr_willis that sounds like chinese to me
[05:14] <Dr_willis> juan,  your machine has a name Other then localhost. and an ip other then <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:15] <juan> yeah, that i know
[05:15] <juan> but how do i use my actual ip?
[05:15] <Dr_willis> <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost
[05:15] <Dr_willis>   <IP_ADDRESS>   mythbox
it may be a restricted module, check your repositories
[05:15] <Dr_willis> My actual ip is in my hosts file (i put it there) with the mythbox name :) thats the name of this machine
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Yours may have your machine name and <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:16] <juan> really? i vae to put mythbox?
[05:16] <juan> have
[05:16] <Dr_willis> No... You PUT IN your machines name
[05:16] <Dr_willis> and your IP
[05:17] <juan> and where do i find out my machines name?
[05:17] <Dr_willis>  you can set up all sorts of names in the hosts file if you want ted to.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> what name did ya gibe it at install? what do ya see on your bash prompt?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> try the hostname command. :)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> check the hosts file also.. it should be in there.
[05:17] <dedi> i have a very high cpu usage on wa ( = iowait), how can i find out how this is caused?
[05:17] <juan> juan@juan-desktop
[05:18] <Dr_willis> looks like your hostname is juan-dekstop
[05:18] <DaveQB> soulwarp i definately have restricted enabled
[05:18] <DaveQB> any other thoughts guys ???
[05:18] <Dr_willis> willis@MythBox:~(.025 Mb)$
[05:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:19] <hydrogen> hydrogen@Yes
[05:19] <juan> so i would havce to put my ip + juan-desktop?
[05:19] <hydrogen> my hostname is cooler
[05:19] <slimjimflim_> i don't really know what to edit. here's my xorg.conf     pastebin.ca/746333
[05:19] <slimjimflim_> i need 1024x768
[05:20] <soulwarp> E: Couldn't find package kdrc
[05:20] <slimjimflim_> Dr_willis?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ya could give the actual web address.. :)
[05:20] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.ca/746333
[05:20] <Dr_willis> makes it easier to open the web browser
[05:20] <slimjimflim_> sry
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[05:21] <Dr_willis> You are set to 1024x768
[05:21] <Dr_willis> could remove the other modes
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Modes      "1024x768"
[05:23] <slimjimflim_> hmm, ok
[05:25] <Dr_willis> logical eh?
[05:25] <slimjimflim_> yea
[05:25] <strtok> q
[05:25] <hydrogen> it may not work though
[05:25] <slimjimflim_> /etc/init.d/kde restart  ???
[05:25] <hydrogen> kdm
[05:26] <Dr_willis> or just hit alt-ctrl-backspce
[05:26] <Dr_willis> ;)
[05:26] <soulwarp> my fav command
[05:26] <juan> Dr_willis if i change my hot lo my ip, would i need to change my port? it is currently set to 2000
[05:27] <Dr_willis> lo is always <IP_ADDRESS> thats localhost
[05:27] <Dr_willis> port shouldent need to be messed with
[05:28] <juan> why not?
[05:28] <juan> i'm just learning
[05:28] <Dr_willis> why should it. :)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> if your server is on port 2000 its on port 2000
[05:28] <juan> i don't knwo, on the freepops page it tells me to set it to 2000, so thats what i did
[05:29] <Dr_willis> i dont see why it wouldent work on localhost really. that shouldent matter
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Unless the config for the program  needs to be tweeked.
[05:30] <dennister> any other would-be gutsy upgraders having difficulty?
[05:31] <dennister> i was finally able to solve mine yesterday, so at least i know what to expect, lol
[05:31] <juan> that could be a motive
[05:32] <iRnerdK> i has a Gutsy now
[05:32] <dennister> <-----not too used to things not working anymore...kubuntu's spoiling me
[05:33] <Dr_willis> thats why i always do clean installs. :)
[05:33] <iRnerdK> i has 2 hard drives so backing up is a breeze
[05:34] <dennister> I usually do clean installs, but this time i wanted to try to upgrade method...my installation/apps takes so long to get everything working the way I want i didn't want to start from scratch if i could help it
[05:34] <hydrogen> mm
[05:34] <slimjimflim> Dr_willis, that didn't work
[05:34] <hydrogen> I had no trouble updating
[05:34] <Dr_willis> ive gotten wher ei make a little script that isntalls/tweaks things
[05:34] <hydrogen> but I did it way back around tribe5
[05:34] <dennister> and i have 2 hdd's too, it's not difficult, just takes a long time
[05:35] <Dr_willis> slimjimflim,  what res is it using then?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> slimjimflim,  you did change ALL the  entrys that had those 3 modes?
[05:35] <slimjimflim> 1024 again, but i had to reset it manually after kdm restarted
[05:35] <dennister> <-----had lots of probs, now mainly fixed
[05:35] <Dr_willis> really ya just need to change the one thats being used with your color depth.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> DefaultDepth    24
[05:36] <Dr_willis> so you need to change the one under
[05:36] <Dr_willis> #
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Depth       24
[05:36] <Dr_willis> #
[05:36] <Dr_willis>         Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[05:36] <iRnerdK> i make a note of what i like on my system like sudo apt-get install xxx xxx ...
[05:36] <slimjimflim> yea, i changed all of them
[05:36] <Dr_willis> I make a script that has 'sudo apt-get  .... ' :) and i keep them handy for othe rmachines
[05:37] <Dr_willis> slimjimflim,  the user can also set their res. could be its overriding the default.. but if theres only 1 default  dont see how you are using anything OTHER then 1024x768
[05:37] <Dr_willis> what res are you wanting to use? and what one are you using?
[05:38] <slimjimflim> i'm using 1024, i want 1024, but i had to set it manually
[05:38] <slimjimflim> i can't see why either
[05:38] <sd32> if I am using  kdm, do I want to unselect the gdm in the services settings?
[05:38] <pillowpants> whats the command to have a .deb get its need dependencies
[05:39] <Dr_willis> sd32,  no need. it sees that its not set to the default login manager. so it wont start.
[05:39] <sd32> dr_willis,thanks
[05:39] <Dr_willis> slimjimflim,  try making a new user - see if it affects them also.
[05:41] <slimjimflim> btw, when i restarted kdm like instructed, it wouldn't restart, so i rebooted
[05:42] <slimjimflim> which i'm doing again now
[05:42] <Dr_willis> thats very weird....
[05:42] <dennister> slimjimflim: sorry if i'm getting into your situation late, but what is your video card? i ask 'cause i had the same problem with a very old riva tnt2 card
[05:43] <iRnerdK> i think it was nvidia from what i saw in his pastebin
[05:43] <dennister> it was an emergency replacement card for my son's pc...had to do tons of xorg.conf editing of modelines
[05:43] <sd32> is there a list somewhere, of the video cards that work with ubuntu?
[05:44] <dennister> sorry, read ^^^ but didn't see pastebin...will now
[05:44] <Dr_willis> sd32,  when in doubt - stick with nvidia. :)
[05:44] <sd32> dr_willis, ok
[05:44] <iRnerdK> nvidia <3
[05:45] <elliott541a> Can anyone help me get my sound working in gutsy? when I first installed, I did a sound test and it worked, but some ine over the weekend it seems to have quit.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[05:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
also check your volume in mkix
[05:45] <iRnerdK> kmix*
[05:46] <elliott541a> Volume is up, sound system is enabled
[05:47] <sd32> I have a ati 9600 pro in here now but only have a 200 watt power supply, wonder what the fastest card I could use is?
[05:47] <elliott541a> It would a be a lot cheaper to buy a new power supply than it would a new graphics card, I think
if you want accelerated graphics i think 300
[05:48] <dennister> sd32: i concur with elliott541a...you'll eventually need another PS anyway
[05:48] <iRnerdK> +
[05:48] <iRnerdK> would be better
[05:48] <sd32> its a small hp case I cant upgrade the power in
[05:49] <dennister> the newer video cards all want 6pin ps connectors...most 1+ yr-old PS's don't thave these 6pin connectors
[05:50] <iRnerdK> i've had a case like that, PS was hard to get to. i had to removed the ram and the cd drive to get to it
[05:50] <dennister> brb
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sd32,  id stick with a low end fanless nvidia card. :)
[05:51] <dennister> slimjimflim: what kind of nvidia card do u have? the pastebin didn't say
[05:51] <sd32> it  was hp's glory days to make you upgrade sooner
[05:51] <slimjimflim> Dr_willis, when i log in w/ my new user, the screen flashes and brings me back to the kdm login screen
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sd32,   you can get a nice one for like $40
[05:51] <slimjimflim> it's an nvidia geforce 4 i think
[05:51] <Dr_willis> slimjimflim,  thats getting real weird.
[05:52] <sd32> that sounds good, thanks everyone!!
[05:52] <sd32> dr_willis, thanks
[05:52] <dennister> slimok, not the same card & prob i solved then
[05:52] <slimjimflim> i did as root, useradd <a user>, passwd <that user>...<password>
[05:53] <slimjimflim> was able to su to that user from console
[05:53] <Dr_willis> try 'startx' as that user see if theres any error messages
[05:53] <Dr_willis> try it as root and the inital user also.
[05:54] <slimjimflim> i'm gonna try from a different tty, and keep this one running
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Theres some real weirdness going on with this setup. Your xorg.conf seems right.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> and its very simple etup
[05:54] <slimjimflim> idk
[05:54] <needles_> where might i find the package libpurple0 for feisty, needed to install the gfire plugin for pidgin
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !find purple
[05:55] <ubotu> Found: libpurple-bin, libpurple-dev, libpurple0
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !find purple feisty
[05:55] <ubotu> File purple found in jpilot
[05:55] <needles_> ive found it for gutsy
[05:55] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I doubt purple would be in feisty, since Pidgin isn't
[05:55] <Dr_willis> looks like it dosent exist in feissty. have to use the source
[05:55] <needles_> but i havent upgraded yet
[05:56] <Dr_willis> or just upgrade. :)
[05:56] <needles_> Dr_willis : yeah, i compiled pidgin from source
[05:56] <needles_> Dr_willis : im thinking i may
[05:56] <needles_> is it safe?
[05:56] <needles_> ive been debating whether or not to do so
[05:56] <Dr_willis> If you dident have that libpurple hen you compiled.. you may need to install it and recompile.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> I always do clean installs :)
[05:56] <dennister> isn't pidgin great? better than kopete...and gutsy's dolphin is so much better than konq or the dolphin i had with feisty
[05:56] <needles_> dennister : pidgin is great
[05:57]  * Dr_willis pukes on Dolphin and stuffs it into Tuna Cans
[05:57] <Dr_willis> First thing i do.. set Konqueror back to the default filemanager
[05:57] <Jucato> (kde4's dolphin is 10x much better than gutsy's... which isn't really dolphin)
[05:57] <dennister> but Dr_willis: why?!!!
[05:57] <Dr_willis> dennister,  because i USE the features in Konqueror thats not in dolphin.
[05:57] <dennister> i can't wait for kde4...i want arts out!
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I dont see much  in dolphin that i need. that benifites me
[05:58] <Jucato> dennister: arts has been only an optional dependency in KDE since 3.5.x
[05:58] <sd32> kde4 is in december correct?
[05:58] <needles_> ok, its official, im going to upgrade
[05:58] <needles_> !upgrade
[05:58] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:58] <Jucato> unfortunately, most binary distros opt to make it required
[05:58] <iRnerdK> yay :D
[05:58] <dennister> heheheh...well gutsy's dolphin is still kinda new to me, i like how i can actually start it with the details view instead of icons
[05:58] <needles_> kde4 looks promising
[05:58] <dennister> <-------hates! icon-based file managers
[05:58] <Dr_willis> You can set Konqueror to start in detail views..
[05:59]  * Jucato loves icons in file manglers :)
[05:59] <Jucato> er.. managers...
[05:59]  * needles_ likes to set it based on the folders contents
[05:59] <Jucato> konq could do that too
[05:59] <iRnerdK> i like dolphin
[05:59] <Jucato> but thanks to Kubuntu's menu handling... it's not so easy
[05:59] <iRnerdK> something different
[05:59] <dennister> well. i loved the old dos xtree gold, so...
[06:00] <Dr_willis> i tend to use 'mc' for my needs. :)
[06:00] <Jucato> konq can do that too!
[06:00] <dennister> yes, i tried to get konq to open and use tree or details as the default view, but it was frustrating
[06:00] <Jucato> er.. am I beginning to repeat myself? :P
[06:00] <Dr_willis> fustrating? set the default profile?
[06:00] <Jucato> dennister: not really frustrating...
[06:01] <Jucato> but Kubuntu took out 2 very useful menu entries from the Settings menu
[06:01] <Jucato> (and removed the whole Window menu)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Yea - i dislike it when the disrtos remove features like that.
[06:01] <Jucato> (and Go menu)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> wonder how to replace those
[06:01] <dennister> well, Dr_willis i tried that, but i never pretended to be as experienced as you are
[06:02] <dennister> Jucato: which menu entries r u talking about?
[06:02] <Jucato> dennister: hm? just change the View mode then Save View Profile
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <dennister> oops
[06:02] <Jucato> "Save View Changes Per Folder" and "Remove Folder Properties" in the Settings menu
[06:02] <Jucato> the first one allows you to set a different View mode per folder
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Thers was a extra profiles settings ya could set up also. at one time
[06:03] <dennister> well, i've got dolphin now...and it will help me get my linux-resisting son to be more receptive :)
[06:03] <Jucato> yep
[06:03] <dennister> worthy goal, eh?
[06:03] <Jucato> hahah
[06:03] <Dr_willis> I still dont see much that dolphin.. unless you perfer the 'less is  more' thing...
[06:03] <Jucato> ironcially, it was Konqueror that made more receptive to KDE :D
[06:03] <Jucato> Dr_willis: it's a powerful tool for simple uses
[06:03] <Jucato> not really for everyone
[06:03] <Jucato> just as Konqueror isn't for everyone
[06:03] <Dr_willis> we all should use mc !@ ;)
[06:04] <needles_> i like konq for file browsing, but not as web surfing
[06:04] <iRnerdK> try ubuntu ;p
[06:04] <Jucato> yay for choice! :P
[06:04] <needles_> for*
[06:04] <Dr_willis> I just dont see what the hype is about dolphin. of coourse there are those dolphin bugs people keep comming in with...
[06:04] <Jucato> iRnerdK: no thanks. I'm insane enough as it is :D
[06:04] <Jucato> Dr_willis: there's no hype.. there's lots of anti-hype in fact
[06:04] <Dr_willis> give me Krusader! ;)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info krusader
[06:04] <Jucato> and you have to differentiate dolphin (KDE4) from d3lphin
[06:05] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0-1 (gutsy), package size 3102 kB, installed size 8736 kB
[06:05] <dennister> yes, choice is what makes it so strong...and some newbies (like my kid) need less is more
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  just what we need.. more confisuing names! :)
[06:05] <Jucato> Dr_willis: not dolphiin's fault
[06:05] <dennister> yes Dr_willis i had krusader for awhile (still might) i very much liked how it was so much like xtree gold
[06:05] <Jucato> Read: http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/download.html and See: https://marrat.homelinux.org/D3lphin
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Dolphin-Fuzion!  thats what we need!
[06:06] <Jucato> won't happen. The real Dolphin is too much Qt4/KDE4
[06:06] <dennister> but because it would only run as root, i felt it was more dangerous for the kiddies/newbs
[06:06] <Jucato> d3lphin won't be able to merge...
[06:06] <iRnerdK> what's next? manatee file manager?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> krusader in no way should 'only' run as root.
[06:06]  * Jucato would go for mantaray
[06:06] <iRnerdK> lol
[06:06]  * Jucato always found ray's fascinating...
[06:07] <dennister> well id did run with root, and i was too lazy to figure out how to change that feature
[06:07] <iRnerdK> pidgins are cool
[06:07] <Dr_willis> if you user ran it.. then it should of ran as the user running it..
[06:07]  * iRnerdK looks at his messanger
[06:08] <Gun_Smoke> I killed kubuntu today...
[06:08] <dennister> wehen i started krusader, it asked me for password...like i said, too much work to get it configured differently
[06:08] <Dr_willis> password? Hmm.. somthing seems confused here...
[06:08]  * Jucato arrests Gun_Smoke
[06:09] <dennister> hahah
[06:09]  * Dr_willis instals krusader and checks it out...
[06:09]  * Dr_willis thinks it may be a PEBKAC :)
[06:09] <dennister> PEBKAC? translation?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Problem exists between Keyboard and Chair.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:10] <sd32> lol
[06:10] <hellhound> how can I have KDE remember a window's location on the dektop?
[06:10] <_nix_> hello everyone.. I just installed kubuntu 7.10 and I think I chose the wrong keyboard layout in the alternate installer. Is there a way to fix this?
[06:10] <dennister> ahhhh.... i'd seen taht acronym b4
[06:10] <Dr_willis> hellhound,  right click on the titlebar - look under the 'advanced' settings - you can tweak all sorts of that stuff
[06:11] <Gun_Smoke> Jucato: I remember you from earlier...... I've been with u/k-buntu for a while now..
[06:11] <Jucato> oooh
[06:11] <needles_> _nix_ : xserver-xorg edit
[06:11] <Jucato> [13:10] <Jucato> right-click on the window titlebar -> Advanced -> SPecial Window Settings
[06:11] <Jucato> [13:11] <hellhound> Jucato: i do not have that option when i right click the titlebar
[06:11] <needles_> i forgot the real command, my memory fails me
[06:11] <Jucato> hellhound: press Alt+F3?
[06:11] <Jucato> hellhound: unless you're using something like Compiz?
[06:12] <needles_> can someone tell _nix_ the command
[06:12] <_nix_> Ill try that out.. couldnt type the single quote thing..
[06:12] <hellhound> Jucato: yes i am using compiz
[06:12] <Jucato> !xconfig | needles_
[06:12] <ubotu> needles_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[06:12] <Jucato> hellhound: that's the problem then :)
[06:12] <needles_> _nix_ : ---^
[06:12] <Jucato> you'll have to check if compiz has that kind of setting/features
[06:12] <Jucato> hellhound: #compiz-fusion
[06:12] <hellhound> Jucato: i take there is no way around then?
[06:12] <dennister> hellhound: then alt+f2 will give you a command bar, type in ccms
[06:12] <needles_> !xconfig | _nix_
[06:12] <ubotu> _nix_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[06:12] <Gun_Smoke> But it busted for know reason after a logout and there was a pcBSD sitting right next to ubuntu.. BSD is winning.. I don't know anything about it... But so far it's been even easier then buntu
[06:12] <xevious> hellhound: i had compiz set so that it should remember the location of windows, and it didn't
[06:13] <Jucato> hellhound: there is *if* compiz has that feature
[06:13] <_nix_> thanks a lot
[06:13] <Dr_willis> those are some the tough choices with compiz or not... :)
[06:13]  * xevious ditched compiz and waits for kde4
[06:13] <hellhound> dennister: ccms "could not run the specified command"
[06:13] <needles_> !upgrade
[06:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:13] <dennister> hellhound: sorry! the command is ccsm
[06:14] <Dr_willis> yet another brilantly named command. :)
[06:14] <dennister> lots of ways to tweak compiz with that one
[06:15] <Jucato> compiz c_____ settings manager?
[06:15] <Gun_Smoke> Anyhow.... What else is breaking and not working in k?
[06:15] <_nix_> umm sorry but that just reconfigured the video settings.. but there was nothing that allowed me to choose a new keyboard layout! :-(
[06:15] <sd32> <---was finally able to fully turn off ipv6 with the blacklist command...phew!!!
[06:15] <xevious> Jucato: replace _____ with rap
[06:16] <Jucato> xevious: hahaha
[06:16]  * Gun_Smoke Needs a restart (kernel update) hold that thought........
[06:16] <Jucato> _nix_: which command did you use?
[06:16] <_nix_> jucato: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <Jucato> hm.. it should ask you for the keyboard layout at the very beginning
[06:16] <needles_> how long does it take to upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[06:17] <dennister> needles_: when it finally did work for me, about 3 hours
[06:17] <needles_> hmm
[06:17] <needles_> i guess ill wake up to it then
[06:17] <hellhound> dennister: do you know of a way to tell it fix window placement of a certain application?
[06:17] <dennister> no almost 4 hrs
[06:17] <xevious> mine took about 3
[06:18] <Jucato> hellhound: you might want to ask in #compiz-fusion how to do that...
[06:18] <dennister> hellhound: sorry, i'm still very new to compiz, was starting work on it earlier, so that's why i remembered the ccsm stuff
[06:18] <needles_> dennister : what problems did you have
[06:18] <xevious> hellhound: #compiz-fusion can help you better, but i think it was making sure "Place windows" is enabled and setting it to smart placement
[06:19] <xevious> hellhound: but it didn't work no matter what i tried, so i gave up on compiz
[06:19] <dennister> hellhound: this is a very basic howto; it won't tell you what specifically you want to know now: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[06:19] <hellhound> Jucato & dennister: thank you
[06:19] <_nix_> jucato: oh.. k I had to type the keyboard layout there.. thanks. I was looking for something more in the lines of what I saw in the alternate installer.
[06:19] <dennister> needles_: first, with my repositories, the canadian server was having probs
[06:19] <Gun_Smoke> !upgrade
[06:19] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:19] <Dr_willis> compiz has more tweakd and tools and thangs..  :)
[06:19] <dennister> i changed them to us server, and things were much better and faster
[06:20] <Jucato> _nix_: you mean like the one in System Settings -> Regional & Language?
[06:20]  * xevious goes to find food
[06:20] <dennister> then, when all the fetching got done, it disappeared, and i didn't realize the fetching had only loaded them into adept
[06:21] <_nix_> jucato: yeah kinda' but its working now. I can type the single qoute thing.. some of my online passwords had this. thanks a lot.
[06:21] <Angelus> no wonder why the splashcreen doesn't appear on kubuntu gutsy amd64, the vesafb  module is not compiled...
[06:21] <dennister> needles_: then adept crashed as soon as i tried to install those getched updates, and i had to finish it via the shell
[06:21] <Dr_willis> I think there were a lot of issues with the vesafb stuff befor.. so they removed it. :)
[06:21] <dennister> *fetched updates
[06:22] <dennister> needles_: with me so far? :P
[06:22] <Angelus> Dr_willis: and make people stay with a monitor turned off insteaf of a splash screen? nice
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I always disable the lame splash so i can see the messages
[06:23] <Dr_willis> i disable the framebuffer also.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive seen the monitor be 'off'
[06:23] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I wish I could have both, just like the old usplash from Breezy
[06:23] <Jucato> and Dapper (iirc)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I recall a few disrtos that had a purty boot screen AND the messages in the bottom half.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> thats the best of both worlds i guess. :)
[06:23] <Jucato> *buntu used to have too
[06:24] <Dr_willis> then ya got the ones that put ugly gfx on the consoles and take up space. :)
[06:24] <Angelus> so now i have to compile a custom kernel everytime to get bootup splash. nice :O
[06:24] <dennister> i like the backdrop from gentoo for my grub menu...quite purty
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Angelus,  the humanity of it all...
[06:24] <Dr_willis> the things people do for eyecandy. :()
[06:24] <Angelus> lol
[06:24] <Angelus> im addicted to eyecandy
[06:25] <Angelus> :P
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Im addicted to stability and being informed. :)
[06:25] <Angelus> but Dr_willis still
[06:25] <dennister> heheheh...i don't care for eye candy myself, but i'm forcing myself to care for the convincing-my-son goal
[06:25] <Jucato> I'm addicted to what I personally consider as useful/helpful eyecandy
[06:25] <dennister> give my kid a cool look...and he's instantly sold
[06:25] <Dr_willis> I under stand more and more why Kubuntu dident put Compiz in by default. :)
[06:25] <Jucato> that is, eyecandy that isn't (imho) senseless (wobbly windows?!?!)
[06:26] <Jucato> the reason is more technical though :)
[06:26] <xevious> i liked expo
[06:26] <Angelus> Dr_willis: by default kubuntu-desktop install the bootup splash, which people on a computer like mine will get the monitor turned off instead of the splash  because there is no vesafb module, its not good like that:p
[06:26] <Dr_willis> wait for about a year from now - when every  kid has some compiz addons for more eyecandy
[06:26] <xevious> but compiz crashed my X server about every 20 minutes
[06:26] <Angelus> i love compiz
[06:26] <Jucato> xevious: that's one useful, sensible eyecandy :)
[06:27] <xevious> Jucato: Zoom was also useful
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Angelus,  marry it then. :)
[06:27] <Jucato> xevious: another one :)
[06:27] <Angelus> if i didn't have a girlfriend, i would.
[06:27] <Angelus> :p
[06:27] <xevious> Jucato: and the drawing fire on the desktop one!
[06:27] <Jucato> the cube is semi-useful only. the desktop grid/wall is much more sensible for me
[06:27]  * Dr_willis now pronounces you Eyecandy and User.
[06:27] <iRnerdK> i tryed beryl
[06:27] <iRnerdK> wasn't bad
[06:27] <Angelus> try compiz-fusion
[06:27] <Angelus> :p
[06:27] <Dr_willis> I dont find the cube usefull at all.. it dont work/look too good with -  dual monitors.
[06:27] <iRnerdK> k :P
[06:28] <Angelus> Dr_willis: i make the cube turn everytime i change from program to program
[06:28] <Angelus> its c00l
[06:28] <xevious> Jucato: actually funny story, i was filling out the FAFSA, and the page wouldn't search for my school. just wouldn't do anything when i clicked search. so i drew a line of fire underneath it and tried again and it worked
[06:28] <Jucato> Dr_willis: semi-useful only... in the sense that it gives the user a visual metaphor of an otherwise abstract "multiple desktops"
[06:28] <xid> hmm... I enabled dual screen in the display settings and now it boots to a command prompt, I type startx and it says "Requested Entity already in use"... how do I revert to original settings?
[06:28] <needles_> is my system going to have to be restarted while i upgrade?
[06:28] <iRnerdK> i never used the cube, but when you move the mouse to the upper right it puts all the windows at your reach in a thumbnail type deal
[06:29] <Jucato> iRnerdK: expose
[06:29] <Dr_willis> expose donmt work too good with dual monitors either
[06:29] <dennister> Angelus: i need to learn how to do that. make the cube do things...having some trouble with the CompizConfig Settings Manager tho
[06:29] <Jucato> Dr_willis: not everyone has dual monitors (and therefore not everyone has headaches) :P
[06:29] <xid> How do I boot my machine?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Compiz stuff needs a tool to let yu easially print out all the darn shortcuts its using...
[06:29] <apparle> how to compile .c and .cpp codes. I am just learning the language
[06:29] <dennister> needles_: yes, there's a new kernel, too
[06:30] <needles_> dennister : ah, i see
[06:30] <dennister> needles_: oops! sorry
[06:30] <dennister> not during the upgrade, after it's finished
[06:30] <needles_> dennister : ah
[06:30] <dennister> you'll want to reboot into the new kernel the upgrade provides
[06:30] <needles_> because i want to watch a movie
[06:31] <Angelus> dennister: easy, make 6 desktops, and reduce the turning speed of the rotate cube "accalaratio and speed options reduce them" . and open a program on a each desktop instead off all programs in 1 desktop, and when you swtich from 1 to other you'll have a nice cube turning everytime :p
[06:31] <Angelus> im out now, night peace
[06:31]  * Angelus gone
[06:31] <dennister> well gnome said to close all apps, but when it did work for me i refused to close other apps and do nothing...it was fine to do other stuff
[06:31] <xid> hmm... I can't boot my machine.  It boots to a command prompt and says "requested entity already in use" ever since I enabled dual displays
[06:31] <Jucato> apparle: install build-essential. then for .c (C code) "gcc filename.c -o what_you_want_the_program_to_be_called"
[06:31] <xid> how do I revert to single display?
[06:31] <Jucato> apparle: for .cpp (C++ code), use g++ instead of gcc
[06:31] <apparle> Jucato: Give me an example
[06:32] <dennister> Angelus: thank you...do you have a half decent howto to fully explain the CompizConfig Settings Manager, how to make value strings, etc.?
[06:32] <Jucato> apparle: give me a name of a .c file :)
[06:32] <apparle> hello.c
[06:32] <sabaccatus> Has anyone installed the proprietary ATI drivers on 7.04 before?
[06:32] <xid> hmmm... I guess no one knows
[06:32] <Jucato> apparle: "gcc hello.c -o hello" (explanation to follow)
[06:33] <needles_> canonical ltd. stopped supporting xmms?
[06:33] <Jucato> apparle: this will compile hello.c and produce a program (executable file) named "hello"
[06:33] <needles_> !!!!
[06:33] <Jucato> needles_: ?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> needles_,  xmms has not been getting updated for some time
[06:33] <needles_> i was unaware of this
[06:33] <Dr_willis> needles_,  check out the 'beep media player' or the Bmpx player
[06:33] <iRnerdK> !compiz-fusion
[06:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !info xmms
[06:33] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB
[06:33] <Jucato> needles_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xmms&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all
[06:34] <Dr_willis> !info bmpx
[06:34] <ubotu> bmpx: Beep Media Player eXperimental. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.40.0~rc3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2999 kB, installed size 9264 kB
[06:34] <apparle> How to connect net via mobile GPRS
[06:34] <Jucato> please try to search first before assuming :)
[06:34] <needles_> im not giving up on xmms
[06:34] <needles_> audacious is the next best thing
[06:34] <Jucato> needles_: even if the developers of xmms have? O.o
[06:34] <Dr_willis> You should give up on xmms.. it has issues in a lot of ways now a days
[06:34] <Jucato> amarok! :P
[06:34] <Dr_willis> theres that xmms2 i think. but its a REAL work in progress
[06:34] <needles_> Dr_willis : what issues does it have?
[06:34] <needles_> ive never noticed any
[06:35] <needles_> amarok takes up too many system resources
[06:35] <apparle> How to connect net by GPRS through moto razor V3i
[06:35] <Dr_willis> needles_,  lets see.. some how when ya doublesize it can crash X.. and a lot of other little things. the way it handles its window/decorations is also nonstandard practice i belive
[06:35] <xid> dang... kubuntu doesn't work... guess I'm going back to windows ... too much headache... no one can tell me how to fix it
[06:35] <Dr_willis> there were some other issues with xmms and  X  i forget.
[06:35] <xid> not even google
[06:36] <needles_> xid : what problems are you having
[06:36] <Jucato> !patience | xid
[06:36] <ubotu> xid: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:36] <Dr_willis> xid,  gee.. how verbose. :)
[06:36] <xid> see scrollback
[06:36] <xid> I just need to know how to disable the setting I changed
[06:36] <Dr_willis> and you are using what video card?
[06:36] <xid> I changed it to enabled dual displays
[06:37] <xid> and now it boots to a command prompt
[06:37] <xid> when I type startx, it says "requested entity already in use"
[06:37] <apparle> from where do i get real player
[06:37] <Dr_willis> look in /etc/X11/ see if theres a backup xorg.conf  replace the existing one.
[06:37] <xid> the video card that's embedded in the laptop
[06:37] <xid> a Geforce Go 4 something or other
[06:37] <dsmith_> dev.not working on xmms no longer?
[06:37] <xid> hmm... I'll try that
[06:37] <Dr_willis> you installed the nvida drivers and enableed twinview?
[06:37] <xid> Dr_willis:  no nothing like that
[06:37] <xid> Dr_willis: just a clean install of gutsy actually
[06:38] <Dr_willis> To get dual displays with nvidia - i think you do need to use the nvidia drivers, and enable twinview.
[06:38] <xid> Dr_willis: and went to system settings > display > enable dual displays or something
[06:38] <xid> ok that's good to know
[06:38] <Dr_willis> the nvidia cards have their own  nvidia-xsettings tool
[06:38] <Dr_willis> nvidia-bug-report.sh  nvidia-glx-config     nvidia-settings       nvidia-xconfig
[06:39] <Dr_willis> all part of the nvidia drivers package
[06:39] <Dr_willis> I normally just install/run the restricted-manager tool to enable the nvidia drivers.
[06:39] <xid> yes X is starting now thank you much
[06:39] <Dr_willis> then use the nvidia-settings tool to enable twinview
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Of course ive been twidding with  nvidia and twinview for years. :)
[06:40] <Dr_willis> and read the various nvidia docs/readmes and stuff over the years heh.
[06:41] <dennister> xid: see what happens when u show patience? Dr_willis is one of the best :)
[06:41]  * Dr_willis blushes
[06:41]  * Dr_willis is just RTFMING.. and spouting out what hes read..
[06:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:41] <xid> sorry to be so dramatic... it got your attention anyways
[06:41] <apparle> Any body knows how to play .rm ,.ra ,.rmvb files
[06:41] <needles_> xid : ive been there too
[06:41] <Dr_willis> xid,  actually all of this is proberly well documented on the ubuntu forums also.
[06:41] <needles_> xid : just have to ask a few times when it happens, the irc lines fill fast and stuff doesnt always get caught
[06:42] <dennister> ah yes, but sometimes the kind of attention u get is NOT what u desire
[06:42] <Dr_willis> and the !nvidia factoid
[06:42] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:42] <needles_> Dr_willis : that has never helped me, ever, ha
[06:42] <needles_> the nvidia factoid
[06:42] <Dr_willis> heck - i often check out the Gentoo docs/wikis for information. :)
[06:43] <dennister> yes...i have a gentoo installation now, too, and i learned quite a bit with that and other gentoo documentation that i now apply to kubuntu
[06:43] <needles_> dennister : how did you isntall it?
[06:43] <dennister> like when i was getting clock drift...
[06:44] <needles_> stage 3, or through a livedc
[06:44] <needles_> cd*
[06:44] <dennister> needles_: u mean gentoo? use the minimal install only...nothing else works
[06:44] <xid> you know how you google for stuff and sift through wikis and you never find the answer how to do the simplest thing and you wish you had your college professor's phone number?  That happens to me all the time since I installed linux on my laptop
[06:44] <Dr_willis> xid,  with linux to learn the fundamentals.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> it pays to learn the fundamentals
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <xid> yeah for sure
[06:44] <dennister> and I rpinted out most of the handbook, too, to have handy during the install
[06:45] <needles_> xid : it took me two weeks flat to use linux comfortable and know my way around
[06:45] <needles_> comfortably*
[06:45] <Dr_willis> read, read and read more...  then when you need info.. rember where ya saw it mentoned and go back and read.
[06:45] <needles_> just takes some reading and patience
[06:45] <needles_> but it is really worth it
[06:45] <WaltzingAlong> and by that you mean some gnu/linux-based distribution like kubuntu or just putzing with the kernel?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> read throiugh the xorg.conf, and check the xorg.conf man pages. :) lots of neat info in there.
[06:45] <needles_> dennister : how long did the minimal install take you?
[06:46] <Dr_willis> I got a whole library of old linux books from the bargin bins.. in the 'library' :) right above the TOilet.
[06:46] <needles_> linux ebooks are available all over the place
[06:46] <needles_> i recommend the wiley linux bible
[06:46] <Dr_willis> needles_,  and some of them are even legal! :)
[06:46] <dennister> needles_: i can't quite remember how long, it was a couple of months back now...but it is quite complicated, what with xorg and stuff the gentoo way...the minimal install and the handbook doesn't cover xorg
[06:47] <analterror> Hello there, i messed up my kmix settings, and want them back to default, i tried removing/reinstalling kmix, with no effect.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> problem with a lot of the books are that they can get out of date with some 'tools' thats why you focus on the core fundamentals. not the fancy gui tools
[06:47] <Dr_willis> Fundamentals dont change much
[06:47] <needles_> dennister : yeah, ive read the compile times for kde and openoffice alone are like 2 days
[06:47] <dennister> i have the wiley linux bible here, too...and yes, they get out of date real fast...but then again, so do wikis and online documentation
[06:47] <Dr_willis> 'removing/reinstalling' is a windows way.. :) that normally dosent do much under linux.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> analterror,  clarify 'messed up'
[06:48] <analterror> sounds really weird, i think maybe some crazy 3D effects
[06:48] <analterror> i have SB 5.1 btw
[06:49] <dennister> needles_: i can't tell you how many times i re-compiled my kernel, what with the wiggy ivtv drivers for my mythtv
[06:50] <flogs> ahoj
[06:50] <Dr_willis> analterror,  ive never seen anything in kmix that can do that.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> analterror,  of course reove/reinstalling kmix will NOT remove the users kmix settings
[06:50] <Dr_willis> those are in   ~/.kde/share/config/kmix*
[06:50] <dennister> needles_: the long compile times and the long installation process is the key reason why you should keep kubuntu as your working isntallation, then you aren't dependent on gentoo to get things done...my gentoo is more my sandbox/learning tool
[06:51] <mads> hi
[06:51] <Dr_willis> You might try removing those.. and make a new user  - see if his sound is messed up also
[06:51] <apparle> how to play real player files
[06:51] <Dr_willis> !realplayer
[06:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:51] <mads> i just got a freshly install on my computer
[06:51] <mads> fresh*
[06:51] <mads> but when i try to apt-get
[06:51] <mads> it automatically takes the packages from the cdrom
[06:51] <mads> how do i change that to make it go online?
[06:52] <analterror> Dr_willis:  thanks, i'll try that :)
[06:52] <mads> a file on the cd when i try to apt-get xorg is corrupt.
[06:52] <mads> \:
[06:52] <dennister> mads:  in synaptic or adept, find the 'manage repositories"
[06:52] <dennister> it's under one of the titlebar pulldown menus...uncheck the cdrom box
[06:53] <DaSkreech> grr
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Kopete!
[06:53] <dennister> !repositories
[06:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:53] <dmitry_> hello 2 all!
[06:53] <dennister> mads: that link should help you if u need more info
[06:53] <mads> im in console.-
[06:53] <mads> i dont have xorg installed.
[06:54] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit
[06:54] <mads> isnt there a configfile i can fix * in?
[06:54] <dmitry_> guys, i have installed virtualbox on Gibbon and this version of virtualbox doesn't hava usb support
[06:54] <dennister> mads: ok; type this: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:54] <dmitry_> how can i add usb support?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> WaltzingAlong: No kopete just sucks in general
[06:54] <DaSkreech> WaltzingAlong: Thanks though
[06:54] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[06:54] <DaSkreech> night
[06:55] <dennister> mads: make sure the line with cd rom has a # mark at the beginning, and remove any #'s from lines you do want apt to use to fetch packages
[06:55] <mads> dennister: im guessing its etc/apt/sources.lst
[06:55] <dennister> didn't i say that?
[06:55] <mads> there i only have 'deb cdrom'
[06:55] <mads> im not sure. did you? :x
[06:56] <WaltzingAlong> DaSkreech: sure thing
[06:56] <mads> should i just add 'internet' or something?
[06:56] <WaltzingAlong> !source-o-matic
[06:56] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:56] <mads> if i remove the cdrom theres nothing
[06:56] <dennister> mads...ok. hold on a sec
[06:56] <mads> cool.
[06:57] <apparle> I want to know how to install realplayer on PC without net
[07:00] <dennister> mads: i've opened up a private channel for me to give you some multiple lines
[07:00] <mads> which is?
[07:00] <mads> you mean query.
[07:01] <dennister> what client are u using to chat with us now? the channel should have popped up off the side or the bottom
[07:01] <mads> irssi
[07:01] <dennister> you can't see the new private channel?
[07:02] <mads> that's a query
[07:02] <mads> and you wrote 2 lines there
[07:02] <mads> i replied to those.
[07:02] <contrast83> Anyone know what might cause Active Desktop Borders to act like the pager's in two rows, even though it's only in one?
[07:02] <mads> it's in window 3.
[07:02] <dennister> i don't see any replies
[07:02] <mads> oh
[07:02] <mads> oh
[07:02] <mads> i need to register
[07:02] <mads> sec
[07:03] <dennister> mads: registering could take you awhile
[07:03] <mads2> it's already done.
[07:03] <mads2> try now.
[07:06] <apparle> what is KMplayer
[07:06] <xevious> a kde frontend to mplayer
[07:07] <apparle> And what is it's konquerer plugin
[07:09] <xevious> i dunno
[07:09] <xevious> i use firefox and there's just an mplayer plugin
[07:09] <xevious> not a kmplayer plugin
[07:09] <needles_> what program do you guys usally watch movies on
[07:10] <apparle> xevious: How do i install real player
[07:10] <xevious> needles_: i use kmplayer to watch movies that are located on my hard drive
[07:11] <apparle> xevious: in what way Kmplayer is better than kaffiene
[07:11] <xevious> oh
[07:11] <xevious> no
[07:11] <xevious> i use kaffeine
[07:11] <xevious> n/m
[07:11] <xevious> used to use kmplayer
[07:12] <xevious> don't trust anything i say, i'm drunk
[07:12] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[07:12] <needles_> xevious : ha
[07:12] <xevious> oh here's trouble
[07:12] <needles_> !realplayer
[07:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <emilsedgh> apparle: kmplayer is more stable
[07:12] <apparle> xevious: Tell me how to install rel player
[07:12] <emilsedgh> apparle: also in i feel its more usable
[07:13] <needles_> i didnt know there was such a thing as kmplayer
[07:13] <needles_> i like vlc, but kaffeine is alot nicer
[07:13] <sub[t]rnl> vlc is slick
[07:13] <sub[t]rnl> i stick with mplayer though
[07:14] <needles_> the only thing i dont like about kaffeine is the side bar
[07:14] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[07:14] <needles_> it reduces my watchable space
[07:14] <sub[t]rnl> same
[07:14] <xevious> apparle: i don't know how to install real player. i've never had a need for it
[07:14] <needles_> other than that, its pretty supurb
[07:15] <sub[t]rnl> !easyubuntu
[07:15] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:15] <needles_> apparle : in what way are you trying to install it?
[07:15] <needles_> with firefox, or just realplayer alone
[07:16] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[07:16] <sub[t]rnl> apparle: https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/949/RealPlayer-10.0.3-rc1-xandros3.i586.deb.tar.bz2
[07:17] <DaSkreech> apparle: Is realplayer useful on a PC without Net?
[07:20] <miles_> hello fellow kubuntu enthusiasts/users
[07:20] <needles_> oh man, im watching tron
[07:20] <bazhang> hi miles_
[07:20] <needles_> i havent seen this movie in ages
[07:20] <MilesG> does anyone in here use conky?
[07:21] <needles_> MilesG : i used to
[07:21] <DaSkreech> !hi
[07:21] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:21] <MilesG> needles_: i found out what it was today, this thing is crazy!
[07:21] <needles_> MilesG : how is it crazy?
[07:22] <MilesG> well..its not really, i am configuring it through .conkyrc, i appreciate all that you can do with it
[07:22] <MilesG> crazy.equals("sweet");
[07:23] <needles_> MilesG : yeah, i liked it
[07:23] <MilesG> needles_: why did you stop using it?
[07:24] <needles_> MilesG : i dont remember
[07:24] <needles_> MilesG : i think i reformatted my hd and just forgot to redo it
[07:25] <guillermo> ky webcam has been recognized as another camera and it does not work how do i change that?
[07:27] <capcom> hi
[07:27] <MilesG> !hi | capcom
[07:27] <ubotu> capcom: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:28] <diomedes> how can I get a root console so I can dispence with using sudo its annoying as hell
[07:28] <MilesG> diomedes: in konsole, hold the left mouse button down on the "make new tab" button and select root console
[07:29] <needles_> MilesG : haha
[07:30] <cap|com> i am using gutsy on my acer travelmate 650 notebook. when starting up, my screen turns completely white during the splash screen is displayed. when i remove the boot parameter "splash" it's fine. this was already in the first months of feisty but had been fixed later. with gutsy the problem has reappeared
[07:31] <MilesG> needles_: what?
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> cap|com: yeah, theres a problem with the gutsy kernel and vesab.  It's being sorted
[07:32] <needles_> MilesG : left click on such and such, just thought it was funny
[07:32] <cap|com> sub[t]rnl: okay, thanx. i just wanted to give this "bug" report in case it is not still known
[07:32] <sub[t]rnl> thanks for the input
[07:33] <diomedes> it there an issue with gutsy and dual screening?
[07:33] <sub[t]rnl> not that I know of
[07:33] <sub[t]rnl> though, I havn't managed it with the intel driver
[07:34] <MilesG> needles_: i guess? i mean, i just happened to know?
[07:34] <diomedes> I have a laptop I installed before that uses a 22" display  1680x1050 works great, I set it to use the laptops own display as "2" 1440x900 it told be to logout and restart X, after doing this X won't restart, even after a reboot
[07:34] <needles_> whats the number one problem people complain about in gutsy
[07:34] <cap|com> with gutsy afaik usb-connected printers are recognized and installed automatically?
[07:34] <apparle> how to install realplayer files
[07:35] <MilesG> "wtf compiz"
[07:35] <needles_> yeah, heard that
[07:35] <bazhang> wireless
[07:35] <sub[t]rnl> diomedes: rebooting wont change a non working /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:35] <needles_> bazhang : i heard wireless was improved
[07:35] <diomedes> sub shouldn't gutsy's display tool not borke the x11 conf
[07:35] <bazhang> needles_: hugely improved; wireless on laptops is tough for all distros
[07:36] <godfodder> could anyone suggest a program for kubuntu that works like daemon tools for windows?
[07:36] <sub[t]rnl> diomedes: that would be nice, but its not the case
[07:37] <godfodder> i only installed this a couple days ago and i don't know much about it
[07:37] <sub[t]rnl> diomedes: there are a lot of variables that come into play.  like if your current xorg.conf uses the same screen or monitor identifiers, things can get jumbled
[07:37] <cap|com> does somebody use a canon s820 printer, or is there a report on how well this device is integrated now? i formerly had to choose the cpus driver for s800 to get this printer to work, but the result was not really satisfying. i had to use turboprint for better results. should that work better now out of the box?
[07:37] <bazhang> godfodder: what's the function of daemon tools?
[07:37] <cap|com> cpus = cups
[07:37] <godfodder> it was to mount images and such
[07:38] <MilesG> "omg how do i get the cube!?"
[07:38] <diomedes> sub so who are you ment to get dual displays to work?
[07:38] <bazhang> godfodder: for burning to disk?
[07:38] <needles_> MilesG : ive never seen anyone say it like that
[07:38] <godfodder> virtual drives :)
[07:38] <DaSkreech>  !real apparle
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real apparle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <bazhang> godfodder: virtualbox
[07:39] <DaSkreech>  !real | apparle
[07:39] <apparle> anybody knows how to connect to net on kubuntu using GPRS
[07:39] <ubotu> apparle: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <godfodder> :) ty
[07:39] <DaSkreech> !virtualbox
[07:39] <sub[t]rnl> diomedes: with xinerama and knowing how to manually edit xorg.conf
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Night Jucato
[07:39] <guillermo> need to chane thte driver of my webcam
[07:39] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[07:39] <guillermo> can it be done?
[07:39] <apparle> DaSkreech: i donot have net on my PC which package should i download and install at home
[07:40] <DaSkreech> apparle: real.com has a package if you want full real player
[07:40] <diomedes> sub so the tool in gutsy is trash then i take it
[07:40] <Jucato> DaSkreech: bye
[07:40] <apparle> DaSkreech: Is it free
[07:40] <sub[t]rnl> diomedes: for more complicated stuff like setting up and identifing your second screen? yeah
[07:40] <DaSkreech> apparle: yes
[07:41] <DaSkreech> apparle: If you want to play things other than .rmvb and rm you can use the helix player
[07:42] <apparle> DaSkreech: Kaffiene plays everything else. Do you know how to get xine engine to play real player files
[07:43] <Jucato> apparle: do you have w32codecs installed?
[07:43] <DaSkreech> apparle: It depends on the file. Some can only be played by the realplayer program
[07:43] <apparle> Jucato: I have a 64bit system
[07:43] <Jucato> ah...
[07:44] <needles_> apparle : you could convert the files
[07:44] <needles_> to something else
[07:45] <apparle> Can't I just play them. is there a real player version for amd64
[07:46] <DaSkreech> w64codecs ?
[07:46] <bazhang> :}
[07:46] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[07:50] <sabgenton> has any had this problem in konqueror
[07:51] <sabgenton> the find text function "/"  doesnt' work
[07:51] <sabgenton> you see the words startin -- find text as u type
[07:51] <sabgenton> but typeing doesn't doo anything
[07:52] <apparle> DaSkreech: there are 2 w64 packages which one should i download
[07:52] <needles_> my kubuntu upgrade to gutsy seems to be stuck on configuring cfs
[07:53] <sabgenton> sorry it does do something,  the konquer keybord shortcuts start working but thats it
[07:54] <sabgenton> anyone?
[07:54]  * ubunturos plans to attend the kubuntu session
[07:55] <esperegu> anyone knows how to remove the version upgrade in adept? It prevents me from installing the updates.
[07:55] <apparle> http://www.real.com/linux/ This site gives a.bin file. What to do with it
[07:55] <kraut> moin
[07:57] <bazhang> sabgenton: I believe what you want can be found in Strigi, the new desktop search tool
[07:58] <needles_> esperegu : untick pre-releases in the repositories
[08:00] <MilesG> stallman loves nano
[08:01] <sabgenton> bazhang: i just wanted to know if anyone knows the bug im taliking about
[08:01] <sabgenton> type /
[08:01] <sabgenton> an the type your search
[08:01] <sabgenton> thats the way it should work
[08:01] <sabgenton> but sometimes i type /
[08:02] <sabgenton> and i can't type my search
[08:02] <sabgenton> the letters don't come up
[08:02] <sabgenton> this is in konqueror
[08:02] <bazhang> sabgenton: not sure how to help; Strigi handles that fine here.
[08:02] <Xacarith> any one know how to get sound working in kde?
[08:02] <sabgenton> ok
[08:03] <sabgenton> i will investigate Strigi thanks
[08:03] <diomedes> ok adept keeps trying to upgrade to 7.10 when thats whats installed
[08:03] <sabgenton> heard of it
[08:04] <sub[t]rnl> diomedes: its a known bug
[08:06] <diomedes> kk
[08:06] <diomedes> i normally run centos, but kubuntu has way better support for my laptop
[08:06] <diomedes> my os of choice though is solaris
[08:07] <Xacarith> Any one?  Have no sound on kde?
[08:07] <sub[t]rnl> Xacarith: hrm, do lspci |grep Audio
[08:07] <sub[t]rnl> see if it recognized your sound card
[08:07] <Xacarith> They're both listed
[08:07] <sub[t]rnl> run alsamixer
[08:07] <sub[t]rnl> might have something muted?
[08:07] <sub[t]rnl> !sound
[08:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:07] <sub[t]rnl> arts too
[08:08] <Xacarith> Sound system is enabled.  Where is alsamixer though?
[08:08] <RealMurphy> Xacarith: on the command line
[08:09] <RealMurphy> Xacarith: Just start a terminal (Konsole) and run alsamixer there
[08:10] <RealMurphy> Xacarith: Otherwise kmix might also be of help (under multimedia if installed)
[08:11] <Xacarith> RealMurphy It's not installed, yet
[08:12] <TheDude> so why does kubuntu-restricted-extras throw errors when you attempt to install it?
[08:13] <capcom> re
[08:13] <sub[t]rnl> TheDude: what errors are you getting?
[08:14] <capcom> after gutsy upgrade on one of my machines the gtk styles settings in kcontrol are gone. is somebody dealing with this, too?
[08:14] <needles_> my gutsy upgrade is stuck on configuring cfs
[08:14] <needles_> its been on "configuring cfs" for like 20 minutes
[08:14] <needles_> anyone heard of anything like that?
[08:15] <capcom> needles_: are you using the graphical updater?
[08:15] <needles_> yeah
[08:15] <needles_> the adept
[08:15] <TheDude> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[08:16] <capcom> this didn't work here as well. i had to abort, reboot (because of the lock on the apt-database) and run apt-get upgrade install by hand
[08:16] <esperegu> anyone knows how to set the preferred xrandr metamode??
[08:16] <capcom> ther were some dialogues to answer, i guess the graphical tool wasn't able to handle this
[08:18] <capcom> but how do i get the treeview node for gtk styles in kcontrol back...
[08:18] <phiras> What is the best DVD player for Kubuntu ?
[08:18] <capcom> my firefox looks that ugly since the upgrade..
[08:19] <capcom> gnomish
[08:19] <needles_> capcom : so youre saying i should cancel the upgrade and reboot?
[08:19] <Jucato> capcom: instatll gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[08:19] <needles_> capcom : and then do it from the terminal?
[08:19] <phiras> What is the best DVD player for Kubuntu ?
[08:19] <needles_> with "sudo apt-get upgrade install"?
[08:19] <monkey__> http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5177/dragonts9.png   anyone know where i can find this image?
[08:20] <Xacarith> ok, so seems I have sound blaster working but nothing sending sound to it...  Erm  How can I change what sound card the system is trying to use?
[08:20] <Jucato> monkey__: the wallpaper?
[08:20] <monkey__> Jucato: yes
[08:20] <capcom> needles_: i did that, but here this happened quite at the beginning after the downloads were finished. if you are somewhere in the middle i can't guarantee that a reboot will work
[08:21] <Jucato> monkey__: it's pre-installed in all KDE distros. right-click on the destop-> Configure Desktop -> Background, the name is Konqui
[08:21] <capcom> i waited 2 hours but nothing went forward at 0% of the upgrade as i rebooted
[08:22] <needles_> capcom : im at 60%
[08:22] <monkey__> Jucato: you sure? is it in kubuntu 7.10? last time i checked, it's not in kubuntu (older version).
[08:22] <needles_> install
[08:22] <Jucato> monkey__: it should be.
[08:22] <needles_> Jucato : what would you recommend I do?
[08:22] <capcom> needles_: might work, might not.. it's risky
[08:23] <Jucato> monkey__: are you sure you're looking in the right place? there's a drop down list beside ( ) Picture: in the Background options
[08:23] <needles_> Jucato : my gutsy upgrade is stuck at 60 percent, on "configuring cfs"
[08:23] <Jucato> needles_: um.. not really sure
[08:23] <phiras> How can I upgrade kaffeine to let it run DVDs ?
[08:23] <Jucato> !dvd | phiras