[16:46] <Krustyklimber> I am for all practical purposes, nearly computer illiterate lol
[16:47] <jhansonxi> RB2: Ticket?  Do you have a bug number or link I could check?
[16:47] <mesquka> night
[16:47] <RB2> jhansonxi, not for this issue, just the Enable Networking bug...
[16:47] <RB2> This just started happening this morning ;)
[16:48] <Krustyklimber> jhutchins, what is GUI? and how do I access it?
[16:48] <jhansonxi> RB2: Were any updates applied before the bug started occurring?
[16:49] <RB2> jhansonxi, yes... I think it was the kernel update because it didn't update the headers package... I had to manually do that from the recovery console and then re-install the nvidia drivers so it would correctly compile the kernel module
[16:51] <jhansonxi> RB2: A simple test - reboot, hold the shift key down to get the Grub menu, then select the previous kernel version from the list and try booting with that.  If the bug doesn't reoccur then it's something specific to the last kernel update.
[16:52] <RB2> jhansonxi, ok, I'll do that. I've already installed the nvidia driver and it compiled the driver against the new kernel headers.. won't that cause a problem when booting into the previous kernel?
[16:52] <RB2> jhansonxi, also to note is that the driver work PERFECT in recovery mode when the gui starts.
[16:53] <jhansonxi> RB2: I don't think so.  I think the older kernel will have the previous version of the module.
[16:53] <jhansonxi> RB2: That behavior is the odd part.  I haven't seen that before.
[16:53] <RB2> jhansonxi, I'll try and report back in a few minutes.
[16:54] <RB2> jhansonxi, I didn't think the gui would spontaneously load in recovery mode after enabling networking... seemed a bit strange to me.
[16:54] <jhansonxi> RB2: I may not be around because I'm busy with a CAD project.
[16:54] <Isildur> !ubuntu
[16:54] <Isildur> !it
[16:54] <Krustyklimber> I'm still not understanding this GUI... I type it in my dash and get three songs
[16:54] <jhansonxi> RB2: But this will help narrow down the cause.
[16:54] <RB2> jhansonxi, ok, thanks again for your help!
[16:55] <folorn> Anyone got a idea how to get a new release installed for a new labtop? if someone has time drop me a message please
[16:55] <folorn> oh and... does ubuntu work/detect fine for hp labtops well or is there some other distro i should use?
[16:56] <xangua> folorn: you can get latest ubuntu from ubuntu.com
[16:56] <JoeyB2> ubuntu worked fairly well on my old HP
[16:57] <Hilikus> i'm trying to upgrade my server to 12.10 but when i do do-release-upgrade it says "no new release found"
[16:57] <Hilikus> any idea how to do the upgrade then?
[16:57] <jrib> Hilikus: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:57] <folorn> this is fairly new, im not great with the hps much less new comps joeyB2 does it detect the  wireless card fines
[16:58] <folorn> I've rebooted loaded the disk but its like iso image wont load the installer any ideas then for that?
[16:58] <ioria> Hilikus: try install update-manager-core
[16:58] <Teufelchen> hello, when was the ability removed from lauchpad.net to add new bugs?
[16:58] <ircSonest> hi to all, can anybody help me on a network driver problem ?
[16:58] <jrib> !bug | Teufelchen
[16:59] <Teufelchen> no
[16:59] <Teufelchen> the bug tracker wont let me open a new bug
[16:59] <jrib> Teufelchen: did you read the link?
[16:59] <k1l_> Teufelchen: first choose a paket which contians the bug
[16:59] <Teufelchen> did you read what i say?
[16:59] <jrib> Teufelchen: yes.
[16:59] <Teufelchen> perfect
[17:00] <Teufelchen> askubuntu was closed aswell
[17:00] <Krustyklimber> can someone tell me what the GUI is?
[17:00] <jrib> Krustyklimber: what do you mean?  GUI for what?
[17:00] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Graphical User Interface
[17:00] <Krustyklimber> how do I access it?
[17:01] <jrib> Krustyklimber: why?
[17:01] <Krustyklimber> so I can get to all my music etc on the ext harddrive
[17:01] <jrib> Krustyklimber: what do you see now on your screen?
[17:02] <Krustyklimber> besides this chatroom.... nothing
[17:02] <ircSonest> can anybody help me with a network driver installation ? I'm running backtrack 5 r1 on a macbook air and the network card is not installed. The network chipset is a Broadcom BCM43224. Thanks!
[17:02] <Krustyklimber> just an empty desktop
[17:02] <delac> recently networkmanager has started claiming (when opening Network Settings) that hotspot is on, even though it is not. Trying to stop the hotspot from the  Network Settings causes Network Settings to crash. Fixes or related bug reports?
[17:03] <jrib> Krustyklimber: GUI just means the graphical interface; you're in that now.  If you open nautilus (the default file manager) you should be able to browse the files on your external hard drive
[17:03] <Krustyklimber> what's nautilus? sorry I am so dumb :)
[17:03] <jrib> Krustyklimber: the default file manager
[17:03] <ioria> ircSonest: firmware-b43-installer or something like that ... :P
[17:03] <yeehi> 1) Does Quantal on a SSD need manual configuration to have TRIM happen? (I think so: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html )  2) Is there a package that we can install, that will set this up automatically for us? Thank you!
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> Krustyklimber  the file manager, where you open your documents
[17:03] <k1l_> Krustyklimber: nautilus is the "explorer" from ubuntu
[17:03] <Krustyklimber> like the home file folder thing?
[17:04] <jrib> Krustyklimber: yes
[17:04] <Krustyklimber> not in there
[17:04] <jrib> Krustyklimber: on the sidebar, you should see your driev
[17:04] <Krustyklimber> not there either
[17:04] <ircSonest> ioria: yep ... something like that, or a patch on kernel ...
[17:04] <jrib> Krustyklimber: pastebin the output of « sudo fdisk -l; mount »
[17:05] <undeadknight> ?
[17:05] <ircSonest> but I'm newbie on linux and there are big changes that need to be made. so I really need help on this
[17:05] <OerHeks> !backtrack | ircSonest
[17:05] <Hilikus> thank yo jrib
[17:05] <deddanza> irc.uragano.org
[17:06] <ircSonest> ok, thanks
[17:06] <tharkun> What is the package that need to be removed to get rid of the ads on ubuntu?
[17:06] <ircSonest> oops, i'm banned on backtrack-linux ... why ?
[17:07] <Krustyklimber> still no drive showing in folder or sidebar
[17:07] <SonikkuAmerica> ircSonest: What's your issue?
[17:07] <OerHeks> ircSonest, because you run as root, or not registered
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> ircSonest  probably banned without a reason
[17:07] <whoever> ircSonest: well is your nic registered
[17:07] <tharkun> ircSonest: Ask there, really hard to solve from here
[17:07] <k1l_> ircSonest: that could be a topic for #freenode
[17:07] <ircSonest> I'm registered on backtrack forums I should use that nickname?
[17:08] <ircSonest> it's first time when I'm using the irc on that server
[17:08] <k1l_> ircSonest: maybe you need to login to freenode first. so better ask in #freenode to get support for login in
[17:09] <ircSonest> wow, so bureaucracy :)
[17:09] <Krustyklimber> oh well just one more thing I can't do on Ubuntu I geuss... thanks anyways guys
[17:09] <HoldSteady> hello ubuntu, do you have any recommendations for a command line googletalk chat client? (or does such a thing exist)
[17:09] <tharkun> ircSonest: try joining #freenode you will get your answer there
[17:09] <ircSonest> ok, thanks
[17:10] <k1l_> ircSonest: how others run their channels is not the business of the ubuntu support channel. so please keep this channel clear for the ubuntu support. thank you :)
[17:10] <tharkun> HoldSteady: IIRC there was an effort to include google talk on bitlbee, but then take that as gossip
[17:10] <ircSonest> yeap, your right k1
[17:10] <ircSonest> "_
[17:10] <ircSonest> :)
[17:11] <jrib> HoldSteady: google talk uses jabber; works fine with bitlbee
[17:11] <xangua> HoldSteady:  there should be several xmpp command line clients
[17:11] <Krustyklimber> ok one other issue... can anyone tell me how to add a contact to empathy?
[17:12] <savio> hi
[17:12] <jrib> Krustyklimber: you never pastebinned what I asked
[17:13] <Krustyklimber> I dunno if I know what pastebinned means... I typed what you wrote in a terminal
[17:13] <jrib> !pastebin | Krustyklimber
[17:13] <jrib> Krustyklimber: it's a way for you to share the output with us.  Visit http://paste.ubuntu.com, paste the output, submit, give us the url
[17:14] <Krustyklimber> sorry I'm lost
[17:14] <jrib> Krustyklimber: you typed commands in and got output, yes?
[17:14] <Krustyklimber> paste everything the terminal had?
[17:14] <Krustyklimber> yes
[17:14] <ChallengerX> *offers a cup of coffee to ubottu
[17:14] <jrib> Krustyklimber:  Visit http://paste.ubuntu.com, paste the output, submit, give us the url
[17:15] <tharkun> When was the last LTS version released?
[17:15] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[17:15] <jrib> tharkun: 12.04 is the latest LTS.  12.04 means 2012 April
[17:15] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: be careful about using console commands you don't understand.
[17:15] <tharkun> jrib: Thanks
[17:15] <HoldSteady> thanks for the recomendations, trying bitlbee
[17:16] <tharkun> jhutchins: Nice to see familiar faces around
[17:16] <tharkun> :D
[17:16] <Krustyklimber> careful? I just follow the advice I'm given :P
[17:16] <jhutchins> tharkun:Certain other OSs are too reliable - not enough to support.
[17:17] <b3nj> help
[17:17] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Yes.  Not everybody giving advice on irc really knows what they're doing.  If they don't understand the situation, they could give you bad advice.
[17:17] <tharkun> !tell b3nj ask
[17:17] <Brittany> lol.
[17:17] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Pretty much any command will have a man page, so you can check to see if it does what you think it will do.
[17:17] <tharkun> b3nj: just ask
[17:17] <Krustyklimber> main page?
[17:17] <Krustyklimber> oops man?
[17:18] <ioria> manual
[17:18] <Krustyklimber> oh manual... that thing just confuses me more (often)
[17:18] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Linux has what's called a "steep learning curve".  When you're first getting started there is an overwhelming amount of stuff to learn.  Once you get through the basics though, you have a LOT of power and control over your system.
[17:18] <the_hydra> jhutchins: second that
[17:18] <Krustyklimber> well I'm on that slippery slope... I feel lost
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> Krustyklimber  first time using linux?
[17:18] <Krustyklimber> yes
[17:18] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: There are good man pages and bad man pages.  The more you read, the more you'll be able to get out of either kind.
[17:18] <Krustyklimber> had it a month or so
[17:19] <b3nj> tharkun: i want bash to search in current working directory for programs
[17:19] <the_hydra> Krustyklimber: try to focus on  what you really need
[17:19] <tharkun> Krustyklimber: Deep breath, If someone made it you can understand it and usee it :)
[17:19] <CUB4> so how long does it take to get through the basics? on average??
[17:19] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: in a console, man <command> will give you a man page.  apropos <subject> will show related man pages.
[17:19] <Krustyklimber> I don't know enough to know what I need
[17:19] <tharkun> b3nj: man find
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> Krustyklimber  first get familiar with the graphical interface
[17:19] <the_hydra> Krustyklimber: say you want to learn how to list directories content, then start with ls
[17:19] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Many browsers will display man pages as well.
[17:20] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: This is a good place to start: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[17:20] <oneliner> hello there, i ve noticed that after switching between two apps that use sound, one of them stops working, mainly skype calls and vlc
[17:20] <Krustyklimber> wait y'all are going too fast... let's stick with the pastebin thing for now?
[17:20] <ioria> Krustyklimber: O'REILLY Learning the Unix OS
[17:20] <Krustyklimber> I have the terminal open with the cammand you gave me
[17:21] <oneliner> is there a way to know what config may be causing this issue?
[17:21] <Krustyklimber> copy it to the other link?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> Krustyklimber  what was your first question, you came here for?
[17:21] <b3nj> tharkun: for example when i type    program    in shell it searches for program in current working directory
[17:21] <Krustyklimber> Monkey Dust, I am trying to access my ext harddrive
[17:23] <Krustyklimber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549587/
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> b3nj: This is a bad thing?
[17:24] <tharkun> b3nj: nope, it doesn't work that way. If you type program it will search for that program in $PATH (echo $PATH to see it)
[17:25] <tharkun> if you want to run a program on certain subdir you either suply the full path or if you are on that subdir you run it with ./program
[17:25] <tharkun> Which is a relative path to your current location (man pwd)
[17:25] <b3nj> tharkun: i tried to add    $PWD   to path but did'nt work
[17:25] <the_hydra> other non popular trick is to insert "./" in PATH
[17:25] <oneliner> anyone knows of conflicts in sound that may make vlc stop outputting sound properly?
[17:26] <the_hydra> like export PATH=./:"$PATH"
[17:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Just a random musing (but notable enough, not trying to be offtopic): I hate the fact that Unity doesn't use the GNOME lock screen.
[17:26] <the_hydra> oneliner: just idea....does your VLC use pulseaudio output?
[17:26] <the_hydra> oneliner: so does the Skype?
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> SonikkuAmerica  try ctrl alt L
[17:27] <oneliner> no i killed pulseaudio using asla only
[17:27] <b3nj> the_hydra: why PATH='$PWD'$PATH didn't work?
[17:27] <tharkun> b3nj: It doesn't work that way the_hydra stated a way to do that. But if you want to make  your life simpler add the full path to your command line
[17:27] <the_hydra> oneliner: if one of them directly grab the sound channel using ALSA API, well, that's the quirk AFAIK
[17:27] <the_hydra> b3nj: IIRC it needs : as separator between entry
[17:28] <oneliner> what queries could i run or what would be a googable reference of methods?
[17:28] <Krustyklimber> so I pasted it... anyone read it?
[17:28] <the_hydra> b3nj: also, PWD varies between invocation
[17:28] <histo> Krustyklimber: is your external hard drive plugged in?
[17:28] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: The drive does not appear to be detected.  This is not normal for usb drives.
[17:28] <SonikkuAmerica> MonkeyDust: I guess you don't get my point: When you lock GNOME Shell or GNOME Classic, you get a blank screen but also with the date/time and person who locked it at the top. When it senses activity, it shows the GNOME lock screen (which looks like it's modeled after the Win 8 lock screen). I wish Unity had THAT.
[17:28] <Krustyklimber> yes Histo
[17:28] <b3nj> the_hydra: i did that with :
[17:28] <Krustyklimber> ok not normal is normal for me
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> SonikkuAmerica  missed that part in your question
[17:29] <dom_> hej
[17:29] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: if you unplug it, then plug it back in, then run the command "dmesg", the last few lines should show what the system thinks has happened with the hardware.  That may help us track it down.
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> dom_: Hello
[17:29] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: You can run dmesg to see what it says now, then reconnect the drive and pastebin the new lines.
[17:29] <oneliner> the_hydra, what could be a command to "reset" audio for alsa?
[17:29] <Krustyklimber> dmesg in a terminal?
[17:29] <histo> Krustyklimber: okay lets try this. In a terminal sudo dmesg -c   then physicly unplug your drive. Wait a second plug it back in.  Then in the terminal type dmesg .  Please pastebin the output of that when you are done
[17:29] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Yes.
[17:29] <b3nj> the_hydra: with : didn't work
[17:30] <Krustyklimber> in a new terminal or the one I have open now?
[17:30] <the_hydra> b3nj: really? strange
[17:30] <histo> Krustyklimber: the one open now
[17:30] <Krustyklimber> ok
[17:30] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Sorry, I forget that we need to use sudo dmesg instead of just dmesg.
[17:30] <SonikkuAmerica> histo, Krustyklimber: Careful, not all devices are hotpluggable!
[17:30] <histo> jhutchins: only need sudo to clear the -c option
[17:30] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Doesn't really matter.  Once you get back to the prompt the terminal is essentially reset.
[17:30] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: it's a usb external
[17:30] <b3nj> the_hydra: my $PATH is now /home/benjamin/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:$PWD
[17:30] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: OK, that's good.
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> Krustyklimber  my advice: forget the external drive for, first get used to the system's basics
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> for now*
[17:31] <Krustyklimber> so... sudo dmesg
[17:31] <Krustyklimber> Monkey I need to get to some old homework on the HD to cite for current homework
[17:32] <b3nj>  the_hydra
[17:32] <histo> Krustyklimber: sudo dmesg -c     This wil clear the current log. Then unplug the drive and plug it back in.  Then run dmesg    by itself this will show what is going on when the system detects the drive.
[17:32] <the_hydra> b3nj: ok
[17:32] <b3nj> so help me
[17:32] <b3nj> the_hydra:
[17:33] <blkadder> Help me Obi-Hydra!
[17:33] <Krustyklimber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549614/
[17:33] <histo> Krustyklimber: keep in mind that a bunch of stuff will fly by on the terminal when you run the sudo dmesg -c command. We don't care about that. Only the output from dmesg after you unplugged and plugged the drive back in.
[17:34] <b3nj> the_hydra: ./ works
[17:34] <Krustyklimber> I didn't unplug... forgot that part
[17:34] <the_hydra> b3nj: okay, good to hear
[17:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Krustyklimber: Seems like that's just 5 lines repeated a gazillion times. All rejecting DRIVER_SENSE
[17:34] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: This is what my system shows when I plug in a flash drive, which is mounted and opened in the file manager automatically with xfce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549615/
[17:34] <b3nj> the_hydra: i want to know why $PWD don't
[17:35] <Krustyklimber> I'm not smart enough to use U b un tu
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> Krustyklimber  it's because you're not starting with the basics
[17:35] <blkadder> the_hydra: PWD is indicated by "."
[17:35] <the_hydra> b3nj: because $PWD expands into whatever you're currently in
[17:36] <Krustyklimber> define basics?
[17:36] <tharkun> because $PWD is a variable constantly checking but if you need more insight on that you need to man bash and read how it works
[17:36] <histo> Krustyklimber: Has this drive worked on this computer before.
[17:36] <the_hydra> b3nj: but just at that time
[17:36] <Krustyklimber> never tried this drive, I had misplaced it :P
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Krustyklimber  the basic actions, the GUI, some simple commands
[17:36] <b3nj> the_hydra: maybe i need to add / there?
[17:36] <the_hydra> b3nj: whereas using ./, it points dynamically at whatever you're in...at any time
[17:36] <Krustyklimber> I don't know any commands... I surf the net, listen to music, write...
[17:36] <the_hydra> b3nj: / ? i don't think so
[17:37] <histo> Krustyklimber: it's not that you don't know the basics. Using an external hard drive is rather trivial. Usually you just plug them in and the file explorer will start to browse them.   You are experiencing an issue/bug right now.
[17:37] <Krustyklimber> ok
[17:37] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Normally these things just work, so you're having to get into the system to figure out why this doesn't work.
[17:37] <histo> Krustyklimber: Now to troubleshoot the issue you would need to know more things like using a terminal viewing logs etc....  That's the parts you don't know.
[17:37] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: From what you've been able to tell us, there's a chance the drive is bad.
[17:38] <zykotick9> b3nj: fyi, if it's not clear, having ./ in your PATH isn't a great idea... stuff that gets copied from MS filesystems is typically marked executable by default, also is slight security issue, as "system" commands can be superseeded by what's in your current directory...
[17:38] <histo> Krustyklimber: I would try the drive on another machine.  I'd bet the enclosure is faulty.
[17:38] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: At this point I would suggest that you assume it's bad until you can test it on another system.
[17:38] <Krustyklimber> holy smokes, I just unplugged and plugged back in... and found it in the sidebar
[17:38] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: ... or there's that.
[17:38] <Krustyklimber> yay
[17:38] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Run dmesg again and see what it says differently.
[17:39] <yeehi> just logged into Quantal. All the desktop icons have gone. There is no launcher and no panel. I can't seem to get a terminal. How do I fix this? Why did it happen?
[17:39] <b3nj> the_hydra: but i add $PWD to $PATH so bash should use $PWD to search for programs
[17:39] <Krustyklimber> sudo dmesg with or without -c?
[17:39] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: just dmesg
[17:39] <Krustyklimber> w/sudo?
[17:39] <blkadder> b3nj: You sound add "." to PATH
[17:39] <tharkun> b3nj: wrong you will get into trouble because that will only be evaluated when you set up the $PATH
[17:39] <histo> yeehi: ctrl+alt+t I believe launches a terminal.  But I suspect your gui is locked up.
[17:39] <blkadder> err should.
[17:40] <yeehi> how do i unlock the gui histo? Thanks for the info
[17:40] <histo> Krustyklimber: dmesg with the -c option is just to clear the previous logs.  Typing dmesg by itself will just print the current log without clearing it.
[17:40] <b3nj> tharkun: echo $PATH prints $PWD
[17:40] <blkadder> LOL
[17:40] <tharkun> b3nj: if you want to run a program on a specific place of your filesystem you either provide the full path to it or from the working directory you run it using ./program thats it
[17:40] <neil098> hi guys is i got issues going on with my samsung n100 netbook running ubuntu 12.04, first is the video when on full screen there this line appearing, like the video freezes or gets delayed
[17:40] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: sudo is not needed to just display the messages.
[17:40] <histo> yeehi: well you could hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a console.  You could then sudo restart lightdm    to restart the gui
[17:41] <blkadder> b3nj: If you want the present working directory in your PATH you use "." not $PWD
[17:41] <histo> yeehi: ctrl+alt+F7 will get you back to the gui console.  If you need to but restarting lightdm should automatically take you there.
[17:41] <b3nj> blkadder: $PWD should expand to current working dir
[17:41] <Krustyklimber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549637/
[17:42] <blkadder> b3nj: "." denotes the present working directory.
[17:42] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Do you see what's different?
[17:42] <Krustyklimber> no
[17:42] <b3nj> blkadder: $PWD does too
[17:42] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: Heh.  Niether do I.
[17:43] <Krustyklimber> m line I have access to HD, that's what I really need
[17:43] <histo> Krustyklimber: I don't see the difference in those either. I suspect your enclosure or drive is bad still if you continue to experience problems.
[17:43] <Krustyklimber> *bottom line
[17:43] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: We'd only be interested in the last 10-20 lines anyway.  One trick is dmesg | tail -20
[17:43] <Krustyklimber> not ready for tricks LOL
[17:43] <jhutchins> Krustyklimber: did you save that link I posted earlier?
[17:44] <ANub> I have multiple LAN networks and I want to access Windows shares using Places---> Network. Now when I access shares of any one network for the first time , all goes well. Then I make my Ubuntu part of other network and tries to do the same Places---> Network but, this time it does not show me the shares of new network rather shares of previous network are displayed, no matter how much i refresh the screen (Ctrl +R). Then I logout my Ubuntu box and login aga
[17:44] <ANub> in and then it is able to refresh the new network shares.
[17:44] <ANub> I wonder why it happens and how it can be fixed...???
[17:44] <Krustyklimber> which link I have like 6 windows open
[17:44] <b3nj> blkadder: so?
[17:44] <neil098> anybody can help me?
[17:45] <blkadder> b3nj: So technically it works but I wouldn't do it that way.
[17:45] <b3nj> blkadder: $PWD does not work for me
[17:45] <Krustyklimber> you're right, I can't open the drive still
[17:45] <histo> Krustyklimber: close the pastebin windows and create a new one with jhutchins command
[17:45] <blkadder> b3nj: So just use "." and be done with it.
[17:45] <ANub> I have multiple LAN networks and I want to access Windows shares using Places---> Network. Now when I access shares of any one network for the first time , all goes well. Then I make my Ubuntu part of other network and tries to do the same Places---> Network but, this time it does not show me the shares of new network rather shares of previous network are displayed, no matter how much i refresh the screen (Ctrl +R). Then I logout my Ubuntu box and login aga
[17:45] <ANub> in and then it is able to refresh the new network shares.I wonder why it happens and how it can be fixed...???
[17:45] <Krustyklimber> not following you Histo
[17:46] <jhutchins> !repeat
[17:46] <johnjacobjinger> COOOOOL  http://www.break.com/video/the-coolest-new-vr-tech-you-ll-see-today-2407551/
[17:46] <b3nj> blkadder: i want to know why $PWD does not work
[17:47] <johnjacobjinger> u can preorder now
[17:47] <blkadder> b3nj: If I was to hazard a guess it is because $PWD is a variable that is evaluated once not every time you run a command
[17:48] <blkadder> b3nj: But in any case the easiest, most appropriate way to refer to your current directory in $PATH is "."
[17:48] <zongo> greetings, anyone could tell me if chipset AR9485 has issue with linux ubuntu 12.10 ?
[17:48] <histo> Krustyklimber: pastebin the out put of dmesg | tail -20
[17:49] <b3nj> blkadder: i quoted $PWD
[17:49] <blkadder> b3nj: So that is going to get literally a directory called "$PWD" not the variable expansion you want.
[17:49] <b3nj> blkadder: why bash does not do that?
[17:50] <Krustyklimber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549665/
[17:50] <blkadder> b3nj: Because bash has a nice way to refer to the present working directory in your PATH. It is called "."
[17:50] <Gnea> b3nj: it's standard to use ., not ${PWD} when setting ${PATH}
[17:51] <b3nj> why bash does not expand variables?
[17:51] <Gnea> b3nj: when you use $PWD, you're calling a memory-set variable that can be flushed at any given time. "." is good from the get-go.
[17:51] <blkadder> b3nj: It does, once.
[17:51] <Gnea> b3nj: that question is likely better asked in #bash
[17:52] <histo> Krustyklimber: you typed something wrong copy and paste my command exactly dmesg | tail -20
[17:52] <neil098> my ubuntu slowed down after i downloaded the updates?
[17:52] <Gnea> neil098: it did?
[17:52] <Krustyklimber> ok lemme try again
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> neil098  maybe you need to remove old kernels
[17:53] <escott> b3nj, you cant add the string literal '$PWD' to the path. it won't be expanded
[17:53] <Krustyklimber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549672/
[17:54] <neil098> how do i do that monkeydust
[17:54] <neil098> @gnea yeah it did
[17:54] <b3nj> escott: why will it not be expanded?
[17:54] <Gnea> b3nj: when you add $PWD, it only provides the PWD of the directory that was set while setting that variable. It doesn't change everytime you change directory.
[17:54] <blkadder> Oh boy.
[17:54] <escott> b3nj, because it just wont be. probably a security concern
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> neil098  what's the output of lsb_release -sd;uname -r ?
[17:54] <histo> Krustyklimber: yeah that hard drive is still throwing errors
[17:55] <neil098> the log screen screen also slowed down, like when selecting from one user to another
[17:55] <Krustyklimber> oh well
[17:55] <korfuri> hi folks, i have an odd behavior, my grub doesn't show the kernel selection screen anymore, and it boots a kernel that panics. any ideas on how i can force grub to let me pick another kernel?
[17:55] <Gnea> b3nj: it's like asking why a glass of water will freeze when put into a freezer for 10 hours.
[17:55] <Krustyklimber> thanks for trying to help
[17:55] <histo> Krustyklimber: i'd save whatever data is critical while it's working.
[17:55] <neil098> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[17:55] <neil098> 3.2.0-36-generic-pae
[17:55] <Krustyklimber> it's saved... I just can't get to it LOL
[17:55] <escott> b3nj, there is also no guarantee that the user is running an SH type shell
[17:55] <neil098> @MonkeyDust Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[17:55] <neil098> 3.2.0-36-generic-pae
[17:56] <Krustyklimber> it works on the lil woman's puter (running windows)
[17:56] <b3nj> Gnea: $PWD changes every time i cd
[17:56] <Gnea> b3nj: only within that particular shell environment.
[17:56] <Gnea> try this:  export PATH="${PATH}:${PWD}"
[17:56] <Gnea> then cd /
[17:57] <Gnea> then echo $PATH
[17:57] <tharkun> b3nj: What is your ultimate goal to make $PWD part of $PATH ?
[17:57] <Gnea> what do you see?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> neil098  open synaptic and delete kernels older than ...-36
[17:57] <Gnea> be sure that you do the export in ~
[17:58] <neil098> how do i know that it is older than -36 (sorry, am a a little dummy here T.T)
[17:58] <Gnea> b3nj: if you open 2 terminals, that opens 2 different shells.  if you cd / in one and cd /usr in the other, and if you run echo $PWD in both, will they result in the same result or different results?
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> neil098  of the number after the dash is less than 36
[17:58] <b3nj> tharkun: i just want to know why it does not work
[17:59] <Gnea> b3nj: I'm trying to explain why it doesn't work. if you're unwilling to try the experiment I have given, you will not understand why.
[17:59] <b3nj> Gnea: but when bash searches in $PATH it operates in current window
[17:59] <seeqwell> hey umm, how would I switch my spoken language to another language on my keyboard and well, back to English please?
[17:59] <Krustyklimber> how bout now... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549693/
[18:00] <neil098> ok, not really good at deleting kernels havent tried that before
[18:00] <folorn> no luck ....of anyone know how to trigger a fresh distro i just got ? for some reason its not allowing me to do the install and dunno why...the  cd tray starts up but wont load the boot loader for some reason.
[18:00] <Gnea> b3nj: yes, and that window has its very own process, which contains a set of its own variables. $PWD is one of those variables.
[18:00] <neil098> how should i remove them ive got synaptic package open
[18:00] <SonikkuAmerica> folorn: Which type?
[18:00] <tharkun> b3nj: Because it is not intended to work that way. You need a full insight of bash to understand it. Please read "man bash" at the deepest level then /j #bash for further assistance
[18:01] <folorn> ubuntu ive tried gentoo as well
[18:01] <b3nj> Gnea: so why not to expand variables
[18:01] <Gnea> b3nj: your $PWD variable is going to be different between various instances of bash, unless they all happen to be cd'd to the same path at the same time.
[18:01] <folorn> all of them dont open ive restarted it afew times dunno sonikkuamerica
[18:01] <Gnea> b3nj: it DOES NOT WORK. now /join #bash before you are kicked for repeating the same question over and over after it's been explained to you in explicit detail already.
[18:02] <yeehi> histo - restarting lightdm hasn't worked - good idea though. I think it might be due to compiz crashing - this is happening now and happened on another installation. What should I do? I still can't see any panel, launcher or icons on the quantal unity desktop
[18:02] <SonikkuAmerica> folorn: Sounds like a bad image writer.
[18:02] <b3nj> Gnea: okay ;(
[18:03] <folorn> its so i tried to change the boot sequence but dunno hp's all that well so kinda stuck any ideas then sonikkuAmerica?
[18:04] <SonikkuAmerica> folorn: Well, how are you trying to boot, DVD or USB image?
[18:04] <Krustyklimber> ok I give up... thanks again for eveyone's help
[18:04] <folorn> dvd as far as i know...
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> folorn  did you use a disk or a usb stick?
[18:08] <ircSonest> can anyone help me installing a network driver in backtrack5 ? I was asking in #backtrack-linux and no one could help me ...
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> ircSonest  type /join #backtrack-linux for support
[18:08] <ircSonest> I was asking in #backtrack-linux and no one could help
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> ircSonest and backtrack is not supported here
[18:09] <ircSonest> but it's the same linux ...
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> ircSonest  if it were the same, it would be called ubuntu
[18:10] <ircSonest> lol, that's true ..
[18:10] <matanc> Hey guys. So I've got a problem with ubuntu and turning off wifi. At the top right corner when I hover over the wifi icon and click Disable wireless it won't let me re-enable it.
[18:10] <ircSonest> damn, i'm tired. I have about a week trying to fix this problem.
[18:11] <matanc> I do have a hardware switch and it was turned on, but turning it off from ubuntu seemed to screw it up. What can I do?
[18:11] <SonikkuAmerica> matanc: What did the machine do?
[18:12] <korfuri> ok, i made some progress. new question: anyone has an idea of how i can fsck an ext4 partition from initramfs when fsck.ext4 is on that partition itself?
[18:12] <matanc> What do you mean?
[18:12] <tonsofpcs> korfuri: you use fsck.ext4 from somewhere else.
[18:12] <ircSonest> one more question. Did someone used ubuntu portable (installed on a usb stick) in a MacBook Air 2012 (Intel Core i7) ?
[18:13] <korfuri> tonsofpcs: that's my idea too, but i don't have access to another boot media at the moment
[18:13] <korfuri> worst case i'll just have to wait until tomorrow to get one
[18:13] <blkadder> korfuri: It is unsafe to make changes to your running partition.
[18:13] <tonsofpcs> korfuri: do you not have any other media?
[18:14] <blkadder> korfuri: As it fsck might need to repair areas that could potentially take down the OS.
[18:14] <korfuri> sadly no
[18:14] <tonsofpcs> can't you just make some other media bootable?
[18:14] <tonsofpcs> or chain to a ramdisk and migrate fsck over?
[18:14] <korfuri> blkadder: yeah i know. i don't think there is any clean solution besides finding an fsck somewhere magically :)
[18:15] <korfuri> tonsofpcs: but where would i migrate it from?
[18:15] <blkadder> korfuri: Why can't you boot from a USB drive/dvd, etc.?
[18:15] <tonsofpcs> the internet? the drive that already has it? write it from scratch?
[18:15] <blkadder> LOL
[18:16] <tonsofpcs> (two of these are viable, the other is kinda crazy)
[18:16] <blkadder> In ed.
[18:16] <SonikkuAmerica> matanc: You said the hardware switch screwed things up. Be a little more specific.
[18:16] <korfuri> blkadder: because i don't have any removable medias available here :)
[18:16] <blkadder> korfuri: Bummer.
[18:16] <korfuri> tonsofpcs: i was hoping for a "hey just do <magic> and fetch it from your unmounted partition"
[18:16] <korfuri> but that's a bit unrealistic :)
[18:16] <xauth> korfuri: can't you just copy fsck.ext4 to the ramdisk, umount the partition and check from ram disk?
[18:17] <ithinktoomuch> i installed 12.10. I have an internet usb stick
[18:17] <matanc> What I meant was the following: I've got a hardware switch on the front of the laptop. It was turned on (so I had internet connection). I accidentally turned the wifi off using the "Enable/Disable Wireless" icon at the top right corner.
[18:17] <korfuri> xauth: sure, but i have no removable media to copy a fsck.ext4 from
[18:17] <blkadder> You don't need any.
[18:17] <SonikkuAmerica> matanc: So what's the problem with turning the software switch back on?
[18:17] <blkadder> If you copy it to the ramdisk.
[18:17] <matanc> It doesn't let me
[18:17] <blkadder> Assuming you have enough space
[18:17] <tonsofpcs> korfuri: well, you could mount the partition, copy, then unmount....
[18:17] <matanc> It's grayed out
[18:17] <xauth> korfuri: you can copy it from the ext4 partition. mount it read-only first .
[18:18] <the_hydra> matanc: try rfkill command
[18:18] <bobesponja>  /join #ubuntu-co
[18:18] <ithinktoomuch> i installed 12.10. I have an internet usb stick which works only on the usb 2.0 port on my lenovo g580. It doesnt work on the other 2 usb 3.0 ports. Any idea how to fix this?
[18:18] <matanc> It says: wireless is disabled by hardware switch. It has nothing to do with the switch though (it's still on).
[18:18] <the_hydra> matanc: i forgot the exact parameter to use
[18:18] <the_hydra> matanc: read "man rfkill"
[18:18] <korfuri> i might have a bigger issue then. mounting readonly doesn't work, i assumed it was because the partition was unclean
[18:18] <blkadder> korfuri: So you can't mount the partition at all?
[18:18] <korfuri> yup.
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> matanc: And switching the wireless on and off using the hardware switch didn't do anything?
[18:19] <korfuri> otherwise ofc i'd have fsck'd that way
[18:19] <matanc> Nope. The hardware switch was still on when I clicked "disable wireless".
[18:19] <the_hydra> matanc: just try rfkill command
[18:20] <ithinktoomuch> i installed 12.10. I have an internet usb stick which works only on the usb 2.0 port on my lenovo g580. It doesnt work on the other 2 usb 3.0 ports. Any idea how to fix this?
[18:21] <rubiconjosh> ithinktoomuch: internet usb stick?
[18:21] <the_hydra> USB modem I guess
[18:21] <the_hydra> USB 3G modem, to be precise
[18:22] <matanc> the_hydra: I've looked it up in the manual. It says to use "unblock" but that doesn't seem to work
[18:22] <the_hydra> matanc: really?
[18:22] <StevenX> does anyone know where I can get some help with testdisk utility / recovery RAW partition
[18:23] <the_hydra> StevenX: what help?
[18:23] <the_hydra> matanc: if you do "sudo rfkill list", what do you see regarding your wifi interface status?
[18:23] <the_hydra> matanc: is it soft blocked? hard blocked? both?
[18:24] <matanc> One moment
[18:24] <neil098> @MonkeyDust i managed to take off all old kernels and still the same thing
[18:24] <arshavin> StevenX: see the man page or testdisk --help
[18:25] <matanc> I get "no" on both soft block and hard block. The hardware switch seems to work now (the little light is on) but it still says "wireless is disabled by hardware switch"
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> neil098  try sudo apt-get autoremove;sudo shutdown -r now
[18:26] <mohrjo> hello
[18:26] <the_hydra> matanc: hm, I don't know then, could be a bug in networkmanager
[18:26] <neil098> then after that?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> neil098  don't know yet, depends on what happens
[18:27] <ithinktoomuch_> @rubiconjosh : I mean I am using a data usb stick to connect to the internet, It is basically a mobile broadband service
[18:27] <matanc> So any suggestion as to what I should try doing?
[18:28] <the_hydra> matanc: or you could try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[18:28] <the_hydra> matanc: assuming wlan0 is your wifi interface name
[18:28] <rubiconjosh> ithinktoomuch_: you could type 'lsusb' find out what it reports itself as then google search for that identifier
[18:29] <the_hydra> matanc: and see if it picks up any SSID with "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[18:29] <Fanfy> Can anyone help me with this magicseteditor thing I can't get it to download. I'm starting fresh encase something went wrong. But my computer refuses to work with anything at this point
[18:30] <neil098> @MonkeyDust i just did it. the log in screen transition is slow and the videos are pixelating minimally all videos are doing that
[18:31] <matanc> the_hydra: I don't know what SSID is, but it seems to pick up on wireless networks
[18:31] <matanc> I can see my wireless network's name there
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> neil098  i'm out of idea's, maybe someone else can come up with something new
[18:32] <the_hydra> matanc: so, your wifi interface actually works
[18:32] <Wolfybear> Hey anyone know of a good tutorial on installing Ubuntu 12.1 on an external hard drive?
[18:32] <matanc> But it shows that it's not?
[18:33] <matanc> So what alternative ways are there for me to see the wireless networks in my area and connect to them?
[18:33] <neil098> help anyone?
[18:33] <ioria> neil098: ps -A ?
[18:33] <the_hydra> matanc: I can't help on that part. All I can up to this point is to make sure you have functioning wifi interface
[18:34] <Fanfy> Anyone able to help me? ._.
[18:35] <pw-toxic> hi, is it a bad idea to write data while a raid is beeing rebuilded after first creation?
[18:36] <the_hydra> pw-toxic: IMHO it will be just queued in
[18:36] <neil098> @iora  PID TTY          TIME CMD
[18:36] <neil098>     1 ?        00:00:01 init
[18:36] <neil098>     2 ?        00:00:00 kthreadd
[18:36] <neil098>     3 ?        00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0
[18:36] <neil098>     6 ?        00:00:00 migration/0
[18:36] <neil098>     7 ?        00:00:00 watchdog/0
[18:36] <FloodBot1> neil098: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <the_hydra> pw-toxic: so you just hog the disk
[18:36] <ircSonest> Did someone used ubuntu portable (installed on a usb stick) in a MacBook Air 2012 (Intel Core i7) ?
[18:37] <ioria> neil098: that's all ?
[18:38] <matanc> the_hydra: one more thing. Someone on the forums said to run the following command: sudo rmmod -f sony-laptop. Can this do any harm?
[18:39] <neil098> its on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:39] <matanc> I read that the command removes a module from the kernel, but I don't know if it'll screw stuff up
[18:39] <neil098> @iora on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> neil098  then paste the url here
[18:40] <neil098> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549812/
[18:40] <pw-toxic> the_hydra, i just copied 10GB on the new raid and i could read it - even over samba
[18:40] <pw-toxic> the_hydra, im just wondering if i should wait one day until the raid is rebuild or start copying now
[18:41] <the_hydra> matanc: ehm not sure
[18:41] <neil098> @iora @MonkeyDust here is the link:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549812/
[18:42] <escott> matanc, its a temporary removal
[18:42] <ioria> neil098: silly question.... did you reboot, don't you ?
[18:42] <the_hydra> pw-toxic: better wait...anything could happen during RAID rebuild
[18:42] <neil098> i already rebooted twice
[18:42] <hmm> any news about ubuntu phones ?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> hmm  #ubuntu-phone
[18:43] <hmm> when will ubuntu phone be coming out and what type of models ?
[18:43] <hmm> ok
[18:43] <matanc> escott: and could that fix my problem?
[18:43] <matanc> a few people on that thread said it might
[18:44] <johnjacobjinger> hmmm if an invoice has parantheses around the total doesnt that mean they owe me that money?
[18:44] <neil098> @iora i already rebooted twice
[18:44] <johnjacobjinger> if so my school says I overpaid them by 7k
[18:44] <xubuntu> hi to all
[18:44] <Fanfy> Guessing no one can help me huh..
[18:44] <johnjacobjinger> oops wrong window
[18:44] <hmm> ubuntu tv needs any specific hardware or it only deals with net braodcast ? can ubuntu tv make use of home cable ?
[18:44] <johnjacobjinger> sorry i know it was off-topic it was a mistake
[18:44] <SonikkuAmerica> johnjacobjinger: I was about to say....
[18:44] <escott> matanc, i did not read what your problem was, but an rmmod is easily "undone" by rebooting
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> hmm  you too, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:45] <learnLinux> whenever I put comp to sleep and go back to it, wireless  internet NEVER reconnects.  any help? I have tried connecting wired and reboot to recovery and ? dspk? but it didnt help
[18:45] <escott> Fanfy, not without a statement of your problem
[18:45] <Shinobi> Running 10.10 and want to upgrade to 12.04. Will my apps and such remain in tact?
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> rubiconjosh  you can't, fresh istall is needed, after backup
[18:45] <Bon-chan> does someone knows if there is a emulator for 3DO for linux?
[18:45] <matanc> escott: okay so I'll give it a try
[18:45] <ioria> neil098: are you sure it depends on updates you did ?
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Shinobi  you can't, fresh istall is needed, after backup
[18:46] <escott> Shinobi, 12.04 is fairly different from 10.10 but if your application exists in 12.04 and is installed in 10.10 it will still be installed in 12.04
[18:46] <Shinobi> damn! All of a suddon my pc starts rebooting randomly. It seems to pass diag tests though...
[18:46] <Guest20096> you mean zx spectrum
[18:47] <neil098> well the update that i did are the ones that appeared on ubuntu itself,
[18:47] <Shinobi> Crashes with flash/maps type of content...
[18:47] <neil098> @iora i down know whats causing the issue with the fullscreen videos and the slow log in transitions
[18:48] <callmev> hello
[18:48] <callmev> wo
[18:48] <ioria> neil098: can you change session with another DE ?
[18:49] <Guest20096> just messing in Voyager os
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> Guest20096  wrong channel
[18:50] <Guest20096> ok
[18:50] <yeehi> unity --reset is deprecated. Which command replaces that?
[18:50] <mickabrig7> http://adf.ly/Ha2YI
[18:50] <neil098> change session
[18:50] <neil098> @iora change session with DE? what do you mean
[18:50] <Guest20096> log out change session
[18:51] <ioria> neil098: at log in screen you can change session.... openbox - lxde - xfce (if they are installed)
[18:51] <neil098> i only have gnome
[18:53] <pw-toxic> the_hydra, thank you
[18:53] <neil098> @ioria i only have gnome, should i try it there?
[18:53] <ioria> neil098: try to log out and look for  - change session - or similar
[18:53] <nickinwales> Hello, can anybody help me with an update problem. I'm a newbie with Ubuntu but with a little experience with other distros. When I updated ubuntu (32bit) yesterday, after reboot the menu bar had vanished, so had the task bar. The screen was unresponsive. I re-installed ubuntu (this time 64bit) and did an update, the same thing happened again! I have now disabled updating and have got a totally stable system. I am using a Dell 9200 wi
[18:53] <the_hydra> pw-toxic: you welcome
[18:54] <ioria> neil098: you should have a menu in the login screen
[18:54] <esy> Hi, what's the difference between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[18:54] <callmev> hydra?
[18:54] <neil098> @ioria i only have gnome
[18:54] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | esy
[18:54] <esy> Thanks jrib
[18:55] <Fanfy> escot - same problem I came in with yesterday I ran out of time
[18:55] <Gunrun> Hey guys, I'm running a liveCD to try and recover a windows drive, and I'm wondering if I'm going to run into any issues copying My Documents and stuf
[18:55] <Gunrun> since I know Windows password protects that. I can't try right now but it'd be nice going in beforehand
[18:56] <esy> Another question, what's the name of that window theme which is like Adwaita Cupertino (Mac-like) but without colors on the window buttons?
[18:57] <escott> Gunrun, i've never heard of any kind of encryption on My Documents in windows
[18:57] <mamece2> ok so ive tried google and forum and i havent a solution for my problem. I connect a GS3 to my ubuntu laptop and it doesnt seem to recognize it
[18:58] <escott> nickinwales, sounds like your graphics drivers are not installed. either install them or install and use unity-2d
[18:58] <Gunrun> its not encryption but user permissions, like within Windows one non admin user can't access another users My Documents
[18:58] <escott> Gunrun, that doesnt matter
[18:59] <nickinwales> Thanks escott, I tried to install the graphics drivers and the screen ploughed so I think it may be a graphics driver problem.
[19:00] <Gunrun> alright cheers
[19:01] <nickinwales> @escott I could not find anything in the updated packages that mentioned graphics drivers.
[19:02] <neil098> @iora i tried a different desktop and it is the same
[19:02] <neil098> @iora i tried a different desktop environment and it is the same
[19:02] <ioria> neil098: yep
[19:02] <escott> nickinwales, check the additional drivers tab of software-sources
[19:03] <mamece2> ok so ive tried google and forum and i havent a solution for my problem. I connect a GS3 to my ubuntu laptop and it doesnt seem to recognize it
[19:03] <nickinwales> escott. thanks I'll try that.
[19:03] <neil098> @ioria the issue still there
[19:06] <yeehi> unity --reset is deprecated. What command should I use instead?
[19:06] <ioria> neil098: /etc/rc.local ?
[19:08] <esy> Somebody knows which is the theme showing on this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDHBtg9t2kk
[19:08] <esy> (the window theme)
[19:08] <mamece2> ok so ive tried google and forum and i havent a solution for my problem. I connect a GS3 to my ubuntu laptop and it doesnt seem to recognize it
[19:14] <machicola> I'm trying to use CTRL + F for string searches in webpages & documents but Ubuntu keeps popping up an unfamiliar terminal window (it is not the gnome-terminal that comes up with CTRL + ALT + T). CTRL + F is not listed in keyboard shortcuts or xbindkeys either. Does anyone know anything about this?
[19:14] <jrib> machicola: is it actually a new program?
[19:14] <exiff> Hello.
[19:16] <KI4RO> machicola, CTRL F works fine on 12.10
[19:16] <machicola> i think i've found help jrib, sorry, i didn't think this would be a common problem
[19:16] <exiff> I'm having trouble with logging in.. it seems encryption has consumed my home directory and now i am unable to log in. Help! ;_;
[19:16] <machicola> seems like there are quite a few threads on it
[19:16] <machicola> yeah I'm running 12.10 as well
[19:17] <blargg> When I enable bluetooth on my phone, I want a script to automatically run on my Ubuntu 12.04 machine. What do I hook into do detect this event?
[19:20] <folorn> hmm
[19:20] <escott> exiff, did you change your password and not tell ecryptfs?
[19:23] <ffixe> escott, exiff here, let me sort out this disconnection quick.. will get right back to you.
[19:23] <_helios_> Well I'm giving up on this wireless adapter ndiswrapper says everything is working hardware is present but still wont show up as wlan0
[19:26] <adibhanna> hello
[19:26] <SmallR2002_> I have foolishly done a linux raid with a partition table and then lvm partitions on top, is it possible to migrate the lvm partition to plain lvm pv?
[19:28] <wN> SmallR2002_: what?
[19:28] <wN> SmallR2002_: you want to migrate the LVM PV from a partition to a raw device? so sda1 -> sdb?
[19:28] <wN> (for example)
[19:30] <SmallR2002_> wN: yes, but worse, I want to move my /dev/md0p1 to /dev/md0
[19:30] <SmallR2002_> see the problem?
[19:30] <SmallR2002_> all my storage is in one array
[19:30] <wN> SmallR2002_: why did you think that was foolish?
[19:31] <wN> SmallR2002_: you'd have to have another disk to move everything to, then remove the partition table, then move it back
[19:31] <SmallR2002_> well, it turns out it is now because I can't work out how to resize /dev/md0p1 so I can grow /dev/Mapped/Drive
[19:31] <gunn> hi
[19:31] <SmallR2002_> that's what I thought was the case wN
[19:31] <wN> SmallR2002_: do you have unpartitioned space on the md0?
[19:31] <SmallR2002_> yes
[19:32] <wN> SmallR2002_: why not create a new partition, and add it to your volume group?
[19:32] <grim21> updated to ubuntu 12.10 today, and i'm just wondering why the dialog that would prompt me to install nvidia binary drivers is no longer there
[19:32] <wN> it will provide extra space to grow the logical volume
[19:32] <SmallR2002_> /dev/md0p1 is about 49% of the space
[19:32] <SmallR2002_> I did consider that
[19:32] <wN> what is md0p2?
[19:32] <SmallR2002_> there is no md0p2
[19:32] <gunn> HOW TO REMOVE Grub Customiser ?????????????
[19:32] <SmallR2002_> just one partition
[19:33] <wN> SmallR2002_: i would create a second partition, pvcreate on it, then vgextend over it, then lvextend to use the free space
[19:33] <theadmin> gunn: sudo apt-get remove whatever-the-package-name-for-that-is
[19:33] <gunn> this is not package I believe
[19:33] <wN> SmallR2002_: if you're using a linear LV it shouldn't cause any problems.
[19:33] <SmallR2002_> it feels tacky to have /dev/Mapped/Drive made up of /dev/md0p1 and /dev/md0p2 on the same RAID
[19:33] <gunn> it is modification of original Grub2
[19:33] <gunn> :)
[19:33] <escott> SmallR2002_, why do you say "foolishly" sounds very sensible
[19:33] <wN> SmallR2002_: get over it :P
[19:34] <exiff> That took longer than i thought.
[19:34] <theadmin> gunn: Well, if you didn't install the software using an Ubuntu package, uninstalling may be a serious pain
[19:34] <SmallR2002_> just using the LVM to manage partitions and keep my space dynamic
[19:34] <gunn> yes, exactly
[19:34] <wN> SmallR2002_: i would avoid using striping or mirroring though
[19:34] <gunn> I didn't install it using software center
[19:34] <wN> SmallR2002_: the great thing about LVM is you can recover from stuff like this
[19:34] <wN> SmallR2002_:  you could also just adjust your partition table to take up the whole disk
[19:34] <gunn> but there I found a link with HOWTO
[19:34] <gunn> and it is useless
[19:34] <gunn> :(
[19:35] <wN> SmallR2002_: which is actually recommended. using raw devices is a security concern. :O
[19:35] <SmallR2002_> I got the partition table to take up the whole disk I believe
[19:35] <SmallR2002_> just not the partition to grow and fill it
[19:35] <gunn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10340183
[19:35] <gunn> THATS THE LINK !
[19:36] <wN> SmallR2002_: the partition table should only sit at the beginning of your disk. did you adjust the partition (md0p1) size?
[19:36] <SmallR2002_> wN: how do I confirm that it's not striping and is linear?
[19:36] <Ronalds_M> hello everybody
[19:36] <theadmin> gunn: sudo apt-get purge grub-customizer
[19:36] <johnjacobjinger> gunn i thought u said you didnt install it with the package
[19:36] <Neikius> let me put some of my stupidity here: I want to have zfs using my entire disk no partitions... where can I put grub? It kinda spooks if I try to put in on a boot sector since it probably is already allocated to zfs... could I do better using EFI? Or is there no other way but to use a small partition for that?
[19:36] <SmallR2002_> wN: I can't work out how to grow md0p1
[19:36] <theadmin> gunn: Should do it.
[19:36] <gunn> okay, i will try
[19:36] <gunn> now
[19:36] <johnjacobjinger> oh software center i see
[19:36] <johnjacobjinger> same dif
[19:36] <exiff> escott ,if you are still here... No i did not change the password... i just suddenly started losing disc space, even though i did not create more files.. i sudo touched /forcefsck and restarted during which i figure the last space was used up. And now when i log in i just get shown the log in screen again.
[19:37] <OerHeks> gunn, does "part 7. Returning to Grub 2 Defaults" not work ?
[19:37] <wN> SmallR2002_: # dmsetup table | grep <lv name>
[19:37] <wN> it will say linear
[19:37] <wN> if it's linear
[19:37] <theadmin> exiff: You may have a problem with your logs. Check if /var/log/ is using a lot of disk space. If so, remove everything inside it, that should be quite safe.
[19:37] <wN> SmallR2002_: how did you create the partition?
[19:38] <theadmin> exiff: To prevent that from happening later, make sure "logrotate" is installed.
[19:38] <Ronalds_M> I have question about gtk window decorations, since I have compiz installed on xubuntu, I wan't to change position of close button
[19:38] <SmallR2002_> wN: honestly don't remember, it's been a while
[19:38] <Ronalds_M> I tried gconf
[19:38] <gunn> no :(...I went to find the files/folder mentioned in part7, but I didn' find anything like that !
[19:39] <exiff> My problem started similar to ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560411&page=1
[19:39] <gunn> and hey, it looks like your link worked
[19:39] <gunn> the process done without error
[19:39] <coldpizza72i> im having problems installing a ubuntu update
[19:39] <escott> exiff, a lot of times people are confused by du when they have ecryptfs because there is some double reporting. The true ciphertext sits in ~/.Private, and the plaintext is fuse mounted to ~. So running du on ~ incorrectly counts both plaintext and ciphertext. In fact the only thing that should be counted is ~/.Private
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  what goes wrong?
[19:39] <Ronalds_M> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':close,maximize,minimize' changes the order of buttons, not place
[19:39] <gunn> I will REBOOT the pc to see if it goes well. The main reason I remove Grub-Customiser is that it makes the pc startup hell-slow :(
[19:39] <escott> Ronalds_M, put the : at the end
[19:39] <wN> SmallR2002_: i'd say the smart thing to do would be to get over feeling tacky about have 2 partitions and create md0p2 and extend over it. if you really want to use 1 partition, you will hvae to modify the partition table by hand. you could also migrate to another disk, delete the partition table, the migrate back
[19:39] <becker_11> I changed a setting or two in CCSM and I lost unity I reset CCSM to defaults and rebooted but it hasn't come back. I've lost the top taskbar, the launcher and the ability to alt+tab can anyone help?
[19:39] <gunn> anyway, thanks and brb
[19:40] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: the package manager tells me to run  "sudo apt-get install -f" first
[19:40] <Ronalds_M> will try escott
[19:40] <wN> wN: that is how my storage is setup
[19:40] <SmallR2002_> wN: confirmed, it's a linear LVM, it's starting to make the most sense to just create another partition and grow the vg/lv over them
[19:40] <B1ACkH3AR7> hello  i wanna ask that i have ubuntu 11.04 installed and is there any way to get updated softwares without updating distro
[19:40] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: then from that command i get "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[19:40] <wN> SmallR2002_: :)
[19:41] <SmallR2002_> wN: much as my OCD tells me to never ever ever ever ever ever create any form of RAID/VM system over two partitions from the same disk I'll just have to deal with it
[19:41] <Ronalds_M> it worked, thanks escott
[19:41] <theadmin> B1ACkH3AR7: Not anymore, 11.04 is EOL. Meaning you need a newer Ubuntu version to get updates, packages, etc.
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  and did you?
[19:41] <coldpizza72i> then from that command it stalls after saying "grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb2.  Check your device.map.
[19:41] <coldpizza72i> Found Ubuntu 9.10 (9.10) on /dev/sda1
[19:41] <coldpizza72i> done
[19:41] <becker_11> B1ACkH3AR7: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[19:41] <coldpizza72i> "
[19:41] <FloodBot1> coldpizza72i: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <wN> SmallR2002_: lvm can handle it.
[19:41] <SmallR2002_> wN: too many awkward experiences working in end user support at a small shop where idiots would make two partitions and RAID them so they couldn't lose their data
[19:41] <exiff> escott, so how do i log in now?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  ok, get rid of 9.10, it's !eol, no longer supported, too old
[19:41] <wN> SmallR2002_: yeah that's dumb. heh. but thats a level lower than what you're doing
[19:42] <B1ACkH3AR7> sir i can update it but i am from small country and it will take forever to update it +_+
[19:42] <exiff> theadmin, how do i do that without logging in?
[19:42] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: thats what im trying to do.. im trying to upgrade
[19:42] <escott> exiff, i would login to another account you can manage the system from or use the livecd
[19:42] <theadmin> exiff:  Oh, hm. Can you get to a TTY login? (Try: Ctrl-Alt-F2)
[19:42] <becker_11> B1ACkH3AR7: sooner you start the sooner it's done
[19:42] <becker_11> B1ACkH3AR7: or buy a magazine with Ubuntu 12.10 on the cover cd
[19:42] <SmallR2002_> my OCD will have to deal with it and I'll do what we discussed, thanks wN and escott
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade | coldpizza72i
[19:43] <wN> lol
[19:43] <coldpizza72i> grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb2.  Check your device.map.
[19:43] <coldpizza72i> Found Ubuntu 9.10 (9.10) on /dev/sda1
[19:43] <coldpizza72i> done
[19:43] <B1ACkH3AR7> ok sir !
[19:43] <theadmin> coldpizza72i: 9.10 is no longer supported. Please use a newer Ubuntu version...
[19:43] <coldpizza72i> sorry theres a shortcut to paste i just found out
[19:43] <wN> theadmin: he's trying to upgrade
[19:43] <becker_11> Any ideas on how to recover unity? I have lost everything but the wallpaper, no launcher, no notification area etc
[19:43] <SmallR2002_> B1ACkH3AR7: go to a bigger country, update, go back?
[19:43] <theadmin> wN: Ah... lol, my bad.
[19:44] <B1ACkH3AR7> lol =_=
[19:44] <exiff> theadmin, escott... I'm in... (tty2)
[19:44] <theadmin> becker_11: What Ubuntu version?
[19:44] <darksis[BNC]> Hi i, You Are In My Friends List (ArthasScript)
[19:44] <darksis[BNC]> Info Line For i, NOTSET (ArthasScript)
[19:44] <becker_11> theadmin: 12.10
[19:44] <theadmin> exiff: Perfect: Please give the output of: du -hs /var/log
[19:44] <wart___> hi folks.  i'm working on a non-ubuntu system and I'm curious if you'all have a file called /sbin/getty.  Can someone run ls -lart /sbin/getty?  If you do, I'd love to know where teh source to this program might be.
 http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-reset-unity-to--settings-in-ubuntu/
[19:45] <bipul> Any one here who has conducted network emulation in ubuntu ?
[19:45] <exiff> theadmin 11G /var/log
[19:45] <theadmin> exiff: Woah.
[19:45] <exiff> Sugoi na.
[19:45] <theadmin> exiff: sudo rm -r /var/log/*
[19:45] <trakinas> anyone with bind9 knowledge? need a little help.
[19:45] <theadmin> exiff: Followed by: sudo apt-get install logrotate
[19:45] <becker_11> Ronalds_M: that 404'd
[19:46] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: "lsb_release -a" says i have 12.04
[19:46] <Neikius> How safe is upgrading from 10.4 to 12.4? Are there any knows problems that can kill the system? just curious for now...
[19:46] <Ronalds_M> unity --reset becker_11
[19:46] <jrib> theadmin, exiff: it may not be the best idea to simply delete everything in /var/log
[19:46] <becker_11> Ronalds_M: thanks
[19:46] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: so im already upgraded
[19:46] <coldpizza72i> ?
[19:46] <escott> exiff, if you already have logrotate installed it could be a bad driver for something like a network card. i've seen those spam kernel warning messages multiple times per second and fill up the log files
[19:47] <becker_11> Ronalds_M: that returned an "error the reset option is now depreciated" error
[19:47] <theadmin> jrib: It's safe. Sure, you can use some potentially useful info but most people can't read logs
[19:47] <exiff> I don't remember installing it ever escott, but i can now log in.
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[19:47] <Ronalds_M> unity is compiz plugin, you have compiz installed?
[19:47] <bipul> so no one has conducted network emulation on ubuntu ??? .
[19:47] <veryhappy> hi guys, the sound on my notebook comes out of the speakers and the headphones even when they're connected. i'd like to know how i can install the proper sound module to solve that problem.
[19:48] <escott> exiff, you might try "sort /var/log/syslog | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -n 12"
[19:48] <coldpizza72i> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[19:48] <trakinas> Im just having some toubles understanding dnssec  key generation.
[19:48] <veryhappy> my notebook is: ACER ASPIRE 6930G
[19:48] <veryhappy> used ubuntu version: 12.04.1
[19:48] <veryhappy> thanks
[19:48] <escott> exiff, actually nevermind that wont work stupid timestamps
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  great, now get rid of the 9.10 sources, they are the culprit
[19:48] <exiff> Ah... well... ok escott
[19:48] <jrib> theadmin, exiff: there are a few reasons: 1) I'd want to know what caused it since it will likely become a problem again later if I don't  2) some programs may not like that their log file doesn't exist :/
[19:48] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: how do i do that
[19:49] <exiff> jrib it started when i copied some large files from an sftp mount this morning
[19:49] <theadmin> jrib: They may toss a warning, but all software I know simply re-creates the log if that's the case.... As for the reason, it's most usually logrotate not being installed
[19:49] <exiff> You saved me theadmin.. thank you.
[19:50] <escott> !info logrotate
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  i'm busy, throw the question in the channel
[19:50] <theadmin> exiff: yay
[19:50] <elise001> Hi
[19:50] <becker_11> man unity says try unity --reset to fix unity issues but when you do it you get an --reset is depreciated error any ideas?
[19:50] <coldpizza72i> How do i get rid of the 9.10 sources?
[19:50] <escott> exiff, whatever it is will come back. so check /var/log to see who is growing too quickly
[19:51] <theadmin> becker_11: Try: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && setsid unity
[19:51] <Guest1659> jes
[19:51] <DarthEaron> can someone please point me to someone who can help me with my new installation of slackware?
[19:51] <p47> I'm using openvpn but when I connect to my server I lost internet connection. any idea ?
[19:51] <Neikius> one more thing... this is quite hard to find out, can I use a partition on ssd for l2arc cache (current zfs on ubuntu) or must I use the entire device?
[19:52] <ThinkT510> DarthEaron: ##linux
[19:52] <DarthEaron> thanks Thinkt510
[19:52] <theadmin> DarthEaron: They have their own channel...
[19:52] <becker_11> theadmin: I did that and the whole screen flashed by no launcher came back afterwards it's still borked
[19:52] <Controlsfreek> p47, Your server is probably pushing a route which routes all traffic through the vpn
[19:53] <ffixe> exiff here, are y'all saying it's gonna happen again?
[19:53] <becker_11> DarthEaron: try #linux for starters
[19:53] <p47> Controlsfreek, what can I do ? :S
[19:53] <Guest1659> having problems installing ubuntu 12.1 to usb using unetbootin any ideas?  I boot from usb and it just keeps trying to boot over and over agin.
[19:53] <theadmin> becker_11: Eh... Well. That's the alternative to unity --reset nowadays. My final answer, therefore, is you're missing some vital part of Unity. You can get *everything* that comes in a default Ubuntu install by "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", dunno if you'd want that
[19:53] <ioria> coldpizza72i: software sources
[19:54] <DarthEaron> i cant talk in that channel
[19:54] <trakinas> so, no bind9 help? (#bind is silent )
[19:54] <becker_11> theadmin: cheers I'll give it a go
[19:54] <coldpizza72i> ioria: what do you mean?
[19:54] <tomtiger11> Whenever I try and connect to a proxy running on Windows OS, I get connection refused
[19:54] <ioria> coldpizza72i: you have to disable repos ?
[19:55] <DarthEaron> ....i just installed slackware and im using irc in terminal... how do i get the nvidia drivers?
[19:55] <Controlsfreek> p47, Do you "own" the server? You can change the server config. Google openvpn push route and redirect gateway
[19:55] <coldpizza72i> ioria: is that a question? because i dont know what i have to do
[19:55] <ffixe> Well, thanks again. I'll know what to do next time.
[19:56] <becker_11> DarthEaron: this is the ubuntu channel join #linux or the slackware specific channel
[19:56] <ioria> coldpizza72i: you updated the system don't you ?
[19:56] <coldpizza72i> ioria: yes i did update it.
[19:57] <ioria> coldpizza72i: so you have the old repositories still present ?
[19:58] <Ronalds_M> DarthEaron why not startx?
[19:58] <tomtiger11> Whenever I try to connect to a proxy running on windows, I get connection refused error
[19:58] <jesswf> I need help getting ubuntu 12 up and running I am using ubuntu feisty fox (7) and all repositorys are outdated....can anyone help me
[19:59] <jrib> jesswf: are you doing a fresh install?
[19:59] <coldpizza72i> ioria: let me ask you this first. How do i determine which drive my os is on?
[20:00] <jesswf> jrib trying to....i erase everything on the thumb and then use unetbootin to create a usb boot drive.  but It just keeps trying to boot over and over
[20:00] <ioria> coldpizza72i: you have a gui for that or you can look /etc/fstab
[20:01] <jesswf> Ubuntu seems so complicated to me...
[20:01] <theadmin> jesswf: Don't use unetbootin. Use dd (from command-line) or usb-creator (from GUI) or Universal USB Installer (from Windows)
[20:01] <tomtiger11> I have an LTSP setup running in a school, but when I try to connect to its proxy server, It refuses connection
[20:02] <ioria> coldpizza72i: System profiler ad ex.
[20:02] <jesswf> i can try dd, but have o idea how to use it.  or a usb-creator, but I dont knowif I even have a functional GUI
[20:03] <theadmin> jesswf: Well, the usage of dd is simple for this case: sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb (where sdb is your USB stick)
[20:04] <tomtiger11> I have an LTSP setup running in a school, but when I try to connect to its proxy server, It refuses connection. The IT admin says its a config error, but Im sure its not...
[20:05] <jesswf> so I just inter this in the terminal?
[20:05] <theadmin> jesswf: Yep
[20:05] <jrib> jesswf: STOP
[20:05] <Ade> Evening all, I need to install the package 'libautopilot-gtk0' - would anyone know how I go about this?
[20:05] <theadmin> jesswf: Well, replace things as necessary...
[20:05] <jrib> jesswf: you must make sure sdb is your usb device otherwise you will destroy data
[20:06] <theadmin> jesswf: e.g: sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb (again, like jrib said, make sure sdb is the right one)
[20:07] <jesswf> I have it mounted but am not sure what its name is.
[20:08] <coldpizza72i> ioria: it seems my problems are fixed
[20:08] <theadmin> jesswf: Yeah, uh, it should not be mounted.
[20:08] <jesswf> unmounting right now.
[20:08] <coldpizza72i> ioria: nevermind... let me pastebin this problem i have
[20:09] <ioria> coldpizza72i: use also lsblk to show partitions
[20:09]  * folorn[A] is now away - Reason : im away from da keyboard hit me up later
[20:09] <jrib> !away > folorn[A]
[20:10] <tomtiger11> CAn anyone help me?
[20:10] <gunn> @theadmin, sorry but your way didn't work
[20:10] <theadmin> gunn: mmm, what's that about again? Lost conversation.
[20:10] <jesswf> unmounted
[20:10] <gunn> but good news, I solved it by
[20:10] <gunn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467147
[20:11] <coldpizza72i> ioria: http://pastebin.com/WzCefyEp
[20:11] <gunn> UNINSTALL and INSTALL GRUB again without REBOOTING the PC !
[20:12] <tomtiger11> I have an LTSP setup running in a school, but when I try to connect to its proxy server, It refuses connection. The IT admin says its a config error, but Im sure its not...
[20:13] <theadmin> gunn: What's the problem? Simply re-run grub-install on the respective drive
[20:13] <blkadder> tomtiger1l: When you say you are connecting to the proxy server what server are you referring to?
[20:14] <blkadder> tomtigerll: Not really an ubuntu question in any case is it?
[20:14] <blkadder> *sigh* One of these days I'll get your nick right.
[20:14] <ThinkT510> !tab | blkadder
[20:15] <blkadder> ThinkT510: Thanks!
[20:15] <gunn> THANKS, theadmin, IT WORKED :)
[20:15] <ioria> coldpizza72i: do you still have ubuntu 9 on your system ?
[20:15] <tomtiger11> blkadder: It kinda is
[20:15] <ThinkT510> !ltsp | blkadder
[20:16] <tomtiger11> blkadder: As it seems to be that the software is incompatible with the proxy server
[20:16] <coldpizza72i> ioria: not according to  lsb_release
[20:16] <przemek_> hello my Dears, i have a problem with bonnie++ command when i provide bonnie++ - u root i d /tmp/foo
[20:16] <przemek_> the output tell me that ,,writing intelligently..cant write block: no such file or directory can't write block 8453057...i was trying to make some hdd test but it's not easy coz i got raid 3ware 9750 and 4xSAS disks and i cannot check those disks throug smartctl command so i was trying to use bonnie++ please help
[20:16] <tomtiger11> I can't remember the exact errors I got, but one of them was connection refused
[20:17] <blkadder> tomtiger11: Well having the exact error(s) is going to be pretty important.
[20:17] <ioria> coldpizza72i: how many hd do you have ?
[20:17] <przemek_> i got 4 disks
[20:17] <tomtiger11> blkadder: I can't get them, since the setup is at the school
[20:17] <jesswf> I tried dd substuting the name of my iso image and it gave me this:
[20:18] <coldpizza72i> ioria: around 4
[20:18] <blkadder> tomtiger11: You are trying to connect to the server from somewhere else?
[20:18] <przemek_> doesnt mean my one of mi disk have been broken?
[20:18] <przemek_> one of my*
[20:18] <tomtiger11> blkadder: No, Its on the setup at the school that its not connecting
[20:18] <tomtiger11> Im at home now :)
[20:18] <jesswf> unreconized operant 'of-/dev/sbd'
[20:19] <tomtiger11> jesswf: Its of=
[20:19] <blkadder> tomtiger11: Could you explain the flow? Are you trying to connect to the school from home, or ???
[20:19] <tomtiger11> blkadder: To the proxy server from school.
[20:19] <escott> przemek_, $400 and it doesnt support SMART?!?!
[20:19] <ioria> coldpizza72i: on /dev/sda1 you still have ubuntu 9
[20:19] <tomtiger11> the server is located at school aswell
[20:19] <przemek_> no it doesnt  :/
[20:20] <blkadder> tomtiger11: So um, how can we help if both the client and server are at school and you don't know the specific errors you received?
[20:20] <ioria> coldpizza72i: and Grub is on it
[20:20] <coldpizza72i> ioria: i think im using sda1 right now
[20:20] <tomtiger11> blkadder: Well, Would the fact that the proxy server is running on Windows matter?
[20:20] <trijntje> jesswf: that command contains 2 typo's, you should be more carefull using dd, it can destroy your system
[20:20] <jrib> jesswf: have you made sure that sdb is your usb drive?
[20:20] <blkadder> It's a little like telling a mechanic "yeah my car is making this noise, but no I can't bring it in, can you tell me what is wrong with it?"
[20:21] <blkadder> tomtiger11: Maybe. Maybe not. Impossible to say with the info you have provided.
[20:22] <ioria> coldpizza72i: use System profiler in your menu -system tools and go in filesystem
[20:22] <tomtiger11> blkadder: Well, It said something about incompatibility :P
[20:22] <cirrus]> hello
[20:22] <escott> przemek_, what version of smartmontools is installed?
[20:22] <blkadder> tomtiger11: I would suggest asking for help when you are at school and have access to the client. :-)
[20:22] <cirrus]> how can I install drivers for Intel HD Graphics 4000?
[20:23] <tomtiger11> blkadder: I would, but the school blocks port 6667
[20:23] <tomtiger11> and 6697
[20:23] <escott> cirrus], it is installed automaticaly
[20:23] <blkadder> tomtiger: That is a non-sequitar
[20:23] <coldpizza72i> ioria: i cant find it... is there a way i can open it from the command line
[20:23] <przemek_> escott: i used a new stresslinux iso and systemrescu 3.0.0 so i guess the version of smartctl is the new one
[20:24] <cirrus]> escott, but it doesn't work, how can I reinstall it?
[20:24] <blkadder> tomtiger11: Ahh nevermind I undertand what you mean now...
[20:24] <escott> przemek_, http://faq.aslab.com/index.php?action=artikel&cat=116&id=199&artlang=en supposedly 5.40-svn3178 has support for that controller
[20:24] <escott> cirrus], what version of ubuntu are you running
[20:24] <tomtiger11> blkadder: Ok
[20:24] <jesswf> I am not sure if that is my sub disk or not.  I cant figure out hw to tell
[20:24] <cirrus]> (I can use it, but I don't have support for 3d acceleration in virtual machines)
[20:25] <cirrus]> escott, 12.10 on XFCE
[20:25] <blkadder> tomtiger11: Perhaps you have a phone with Internet access you can use or something to login to IRC?
[20:25] <escott> cirrus], and what does "glxinfo | grep renderer" say
[20:25] <tomtiger11> blkadder: I have a phone, but if I get any signal from that room, I don't know :P
[20:25] <przemek_> escott: i will try this now thank you very much i hope this help
[20:26] <magn3ts> Is there a PPA to be used with 12.10 that has Unity 6.12?
[20:26] <ioria> coldpizza72i:  try cat /etc/fstab
[20:26] <escott> jesswf, if you open gnome-disks and look at the "Device" it will say something like /dev/sdb /dev/sda so you can figure out what device is what disk
[20:26] <blkadder> tomtiger11: Well in any case you are going to need more details in order for anyone to help...
[20:26] <cirrus]> escott, OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile
[20:26] <tomtiger11> blkadder: Kk
[20:27] <coldpizza72i> ioria: http://pastebin.com/nxUTBWCp
[20:27] <escott> cirrus], so why do you think the driver isn't working?
[20:27] <trijntje> Hi all. I need someone to help me install ubuntu on a system with secure boot. My end goal is to have ubuntu dualboot with win8 without having to disable/enable secure boot in the bios every time I want to switch
[20:28] <cirrus]> escott, 3d acceleration in vm doesn't work, and the vm says that it's driver or opengl support problem
[20:28] <escott> trijntje, you have to add the ubuntu signing key to the keyring
[20:28] <escott> sounds like a problem with the vm then
[20:29] <escott> cirrus], ^^ is this paravirt?
[20:29] <cirrus]> escott, no, vmware
[20:29] <jesswf> I cant figure out how to open gnome disk.  I am just such a noob to this operating system
[20:29] <przemek_> escott: in stresslinux iso i got smartctl 5.42 so i think it doesn't make any diffrence to install 5.40 :/
[20:29] <escott> jesswf, [Windows Key] and then type "disks"
[20:29] <jesswf> disks
[20:29] <jesswf> ugn
[20:30] <escott> jesswf, what version of the desktop are you running? not ubuntu?
[20:30] <trijntje> escott: I thought canonical had a key they used to sign the bootloader that would allow ubuntu to boot on any windows system?
[20:30] <escott> trijntje, yes but none of that is going to be available until 13.04 at the earliest
[20:30] <jesswf> ubuntu 7 feisty fawn....its just so old that the repositys all fail
[20:31] <escott> !eol | jesswf
[20:31] <ioria> coldpizza72i: your root is in sdd1
[20:31] <cirrus]> escott, should I?
[20:31] <coldpizza72i> ioria: you deduced that from fstab?
[20:32] <escott> cirrus], should you what?
[20:32] <ioria> coldpizza72i: i guess so
[20:32] <coldpizza72i> ioria: it doesnt even say sdd1 in there
[20:32] <cirrus]> escott, should I use paravirt
[20:32] <cirrus]> ?
[20:33] <escott> cirrus], unless you have an iommu and a second graphics card you won't have any kind of opengl acceleration without paravirt drivers
[20:33] <ioria> coldpizza72i: sure ... look at bottom
[20:33] <trijntje> escott: that sucks, so I've wasted two days trying to install ubuntu on this laptop?
[20:33] <elise001> II hope some day to get good enough at this to help also.
[20:33] <ioria> coldpizza72i: sdd5 is your swap
[20:33] <escott> trijntje, just disable secure boot. what is so hard about that
[20:33] <jesswf> I want to do a fresh install but I can not burn a cd image and I cant seem to build the boot usb
[20:33] <coldpizza72i> ioria: thats sda5
[20:34] <ioria> coldpizza72i: '/' means root
[20:34] <cirrus]> escott, is it in repo?
[20:34] <coldpizza72i> ioria: can u take another look... i think you misread http://pastebin.com/nxUTBWCp
[20:34] <escott> jesswf, a fresh install on a system that old... not going to be very enjoyable
[20:34] <escott> cirrus], this is a vmware issue. i suggest you look in the vmware documentation/whatever forums they have
[20:34] <elise001> Yes, I'd like to be able to burn a cd image to a memory stick, from my Windows 7 machine to my broken hinge laptop, which is now running an old version of Ubuntu with broken dependencies.
[20:35] <ioria> coldpizza72i: sdd1   8:49   0 461.8G  0 part /
[20:35] <ioria> ├─sdd2   8:50   0     1K  0 part
[20:35] <ioria> └─sdd5   8:53   0     4G  0 part [SWAP]
[20:35] <cirrus]> escott, :(
[20:35] <jesswf> I have to work with what I have.  It is a perfectly good machine.  quick and functional.
[20:35] <trijntje> escott: I tried that already, but if I install ubuntu with secure boot disabled win8 won't boot any more,
[20:35] <shortstraw8> Is there a command form terminal to enter Mobo bios?
[20:35] <cirrus]> are there any other virtual machines for Linux than vmware and VirtualBox?
[20:35] <blkadder> Parallels
[20:36] <coldpizza72i> ioria: oh thats from lsblk
[20:36] <escott> trijntje, windows should boot just fine without secure boot
[20:36] <theadmin> cirrus]: Eh. kvm? qemu?
[20:36] <coldpizza72i> ioria: so what should i do
[20:36] <shortstraw8> cirrus], oracle vm
[20:36] <theadmin> blkadder: That's a mac thing
[20:36] <escott> shortstraw8, no
[20:36] <theadmin> shortstraw8: That *is* virtualbox
[20:36] <escott> cirrus], xen/kvm
[20:36] <blkadder> So?
[20:36] <blkadder> The question wasn't specific. :-)
[20:36] <ioria> coldpizza72i: let me ask you when did you do the upgrade ?
[20:36] <coldpizza72i> ioria: 5 days ago around
[20:36] <shortstraw8> escott, thanks
[20:37] <rawfodog> is there a program that cann put text to speech in my context menu's like on a mac ?
[20:40] <OerHeks> rawfodog, festival can > awesome howto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uKTamXonPs&list=PLA2578BDE9CB9AAB3
[20:40] <ioria> coldpizza72i: during the installation ... you don't remember  which partition did you set up ?
[20:40] <causative> how do I disable the dash?  it's useless to me and I keep hitting it by accident and it is so slow to pop up
[20:40] <coldpizza72i> ioria: the installation was a long time ago... the upgrade was around 5 days ago
[20:40] <trijntje> escott: do you know what could have gone wrong with the installation that broke windows?
[20:41] <theadmin> causative: Well, the dash is the core of Unity. You can use another desktop: Xfce (feels like "traditional", pre-Unity Ubuntu), KDE, LXDE
[20:41] <trijntje> causative: you can set another key to open the dash, one that you are less likely to hit by mistake
[20:42] <ioria> coldpizza72i: i think you have to reinstall grub
[20:42] <Nixola> hi, I need some help, I have to copy an Ubuntu 10.04 setup from a USB drive to the HDD of the netbook it's currently running on; I can't install a new one because that netbook is strange and refuses to install any OS directly
[20:42] <coldpizza72i> ioria: im scare if i do that... somethign worse will go wrong and i want even be able to log in
[20:42] <coldpizza72i> scared^
[20:43] <ioria> coldpizza72i: yep
[20:43] <coldpizza72i> ioria: what do you mean, "yep"?
[20:43] <ioria> coldpizza72i: nothing... it's risky
[20:43] <trijntje> Nixola: I'm not sure what you mean? Why can't you install ubuntu on that netbook?
[20:44] <ludovicoeinaudi> Anyone with experience setting up a Macbook 2,1 in Ubuntu who can give me the best settings for the touchpad sensitivity? To make it the more identical possible to with Mac OS X
[20:44] <jesswf> I give up....nothing is working for me
[20:44] <Nixola> trijntje: I don't know why exactly, anyway any OS setup from an USB key just doesn't run properly
[20:45] <trijntje> Nixola: did you check the usb key for defects?
[20:45] <SushiDude> Hi, I have Ubuntu Server running on VirtualBox with an Ubuntu Desktop host and I can't connect to the Internet with the server. At startup of the server it hangs on getting the virtual network configuration.
[20:45] <ludovicoeinaudi> jesswf: I was like that for days and then BAM breakthrough! What's frustrating you?
[20:45] <ludovicoeinaudi> (just arrived;not contextualized)
[20:45] <escott> trijntje, thats a windows problem
[20:45] <SushiDude> My other virtual computers do connect just fine though
[20:46] <Nixola> trijntje: I tried using several different USB keys, they all have the same errors and work on other PCs
[20:46] <Ronalds_M> just found some weird thing in my xubuntu with compiz-all apps open in first workspace, when I'm at second, it shows nothing, how to change that?
[20:46] <DDAZZA>  I want all my users to be able to run a program which requires sudo  but I don't want to give them all sudo rights.  What do I need to add to the visudo?
[20:46] <Nixola> trijntje: and that netbook is currently running Ubuntu 10.04 installed on that drive
[20:47] <trijntje> Nixola: from the usb drive you mean?
[20:47] <jesswf> luduvico  trying to do a fresh install to a usb  stick of ubuntu 12.1 or so from ubuntu 7 feisty fox, and I cant do it.  Unetboot is not working for me either, tried v 11.x and it would not work
[20:47] <escott> Ronalds_M, you mean you cant move them from workspace to workspace, because opening on the current workspace is normal
[20:47] <Ronalds_M> xfce+compiz, workspaces not working right, every app opens in first workspace, what should I do?
[20:48] <trijntje> escott: but won't win and ubuntu require seperate boot partitions, if one is to start using secure boot and one legacy bios?
[20:48] <ioria> coldpizza72i: but in the ubuntu manual (http://ubuntu-manual.org/  almost at end of it) you can find simple commands to do that.... but you need the live disk
[20:48] <escott> DDAZZA, in that case just setuid the program instead of messing with sudo
[20:48] <Nixola> trijntje: yes, I installed Ubuntu 10.04 on that drive using another PC
[20:48] <Ronalds_M> escott doh
[20:48] <trijntje> Nixola: so you installed ubunt 10.04 on the usb drive?
[20:48] <jesswf> ludovicoeinaudi  trying to do a fresh install to a usb stick of ubuntu 12.1 or so from ubuntu 7 feisty fox, and I cant do it. Unetboot is not working for me either, tried v 11.x and it would not work
[20:49] <escott> trijntje, why are you booting one OS in legacy mode. thats your whole source of difficulties
[20:49] <Nixola> trijntje: yes, and I need to copy that Ubuntu on the netbook HDD
[20:49] <trijntje> escott: you just said that I wont be able to boot ubuntu using secure boot untill 13.04
[20:49] <jesswf> ludovicoeinaudi and I cant burn anything with the op system being at eol
[20:50] <escott> trijntje, so just disable that junk and boot without secure boot.
[20:50] <trijntje> Nixola: I don't think that is possible. Why don't you try installing the latest ubuntu on that netbook?
[20:50] <trijntje> escott: I would if I could, but then win8 wont boot
[20:50] <escott> trijntje, disabling secure boot != legacy bios mode
[20:50] <escott> trijntje, those are completely different things
[20:51] <Nixola> trijntje: firstly because it's too slow on it, secondly because I tried to install every version from 10.04 to 12.10 with 4 different USB keys
[20:51] <Nixola> it took me days
[20:52] <trijntje> Nixola: so you were able to install a later version on the netbook?
[20:53] <disharmonic> how hard is it to use the distribution numbering instead of ubuntu codenames in Wikis. 12.10 is so much easier to understand than having to remeber how a release is nicknamed
[20:53] <Nixola> trijntje: no, I tried installing all of them and I couldn't; I then installed them on USB drives and I tested them
[20:53] <trijntje> escott: ah ok, I didn't know. All I know is that there are only two options in the bios of that laptop: Legacy BIOS or UEFI
[20:54] <escott> trijntje, you MUST boot in UEFI mode. i would advise you to disable secure boot because it will make your life easier, but thats another setting
[20:54] <trijntje> Nixola: have you tried lighter versions of ubuntu like Xubuntu?
[20:57] <trijntje> escott: I'd like to, but Acers excuse for a bios/whatever-its-called won't let me disable secure boot
[20:57] <disharmonic> Anyone tried XBMC hw acceleration on Catalyst 13.01? Is it stable?
[20:57] <Nixola> trijntje: no, I didn't try them; anyway, I don't have time to download them and install them because I have to do this in about 8 hours and I have to get some sleep in this time
[20:57] <xomrk> guys is a good alias to do create a backaup a profile?
[20:57] <escott> trijntje, if its relatively new i would return it to them
[20:57] <xomrk> alias bolo='cd /home/bolo/ && tar --exclude="Pobrane" --exclude="Muzyka" --exclude="kopie"  -pcvzf /media/dane/kopia_bolo.tar.gz /home/bolo/ '
[20:58] <rawfodog> OerHeks, thanks ! it works like a charm :D
[20:58] <OerHeks> rawfodog, have fun
[20:58] <ioria> coldpizza72i: what's in your /boot/grub/device.map ?
[20:58] <Xeology> Hi, 12.10, no nvidia drivers work, it always ends up at a black screen. Yes I installed the source, build essential and appropriate headers. The nvidia drivers from the site install but when it boots leaves me at a blinking cursor with no control.
[20:58] <user82> hi. it randomly happens to me but: how can i intentionally start the app switcher with the touchpad
[20:59] <trijntje> escott: you are right, it should be returned as 'faulty product', but its not mine, but a friends
[21:00] <escott> trijntje, or just search for "acer disabling secure boot" and follow the instructions on the acer website, or call them and ask how to do it
[21:02] <elise001> I have had trouble with video drivers on my Ubuntu system too.
[21:02] <trijntje> escott: I'll try that, or maybe there is a bios update available. Thanks for helping me understand this whole uefi/secure boot mess
[21:03] <psauxw> Hey, can anyone tell me what are the default "unity-lens" installed ?
[21:03] <BluesKaj> Xeology, was the nouveau driver working ok before you installed the "additional drivers" ?
[21:04] <Xeology> Yes.
[21:04] <Xeology> I did not use additional drivers though its broken, I did it manually.
[21:05] <Nixola> trijntje: please, I know I may be annoying, but I need it
[21:06] <psauxw> can someone PLEASE tell me what are their "dpkg -l | grep unity-lens" ....?
[21:07] <dogears> Hi!
[21:07] <dogears> What version of Ubuntu is running on Mint 11?
[21:07] <user82> psauxw http://pastebin.com/MiJgxZ25
[21:07] <ThinkT510> !mint | dogears
[21:08] <psauxw> user82, is that with 12.04?
[21:08] <user82> psauxw 12.10
[21:08] <user82> (unity lens shopping ;) )
[21:08] <psauxw> user82,  would you happen to know which one are the default with 12.04?
[21:08] <caffine> psauxw: i believe i'm on 12.04:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550166/
[21:08] <disharmonic> Where does transmission store .torrent files?
[21:08] <user82> psauxw not sure either customized mine sorry
[21:09] <vifanq> Why ubuntu is so cool?
[21:09] <Xeology> I may just try a different distribution, I need nvidia drivers, the nouveau are garbage for performance in intensive apps.
[21:09] <psauxw> user82, i deinstalled all mine by mistake haha
[21:09] <psauxw> caffine, thanks a lot
[21:10] <irc4> I installed nvidia graphics drivers and I got stuck @ 640x480 resolution, so I purged all nvidia drivers... and I'm still stuck at 640x480.
[21:10] <BluesKaj> Xeology, well depends on you graphics card and which driver you installed ..more info would help
[21:10] <caffine> psauxw: happy to give back when i can. :)
[21:10] <psauxw> =)
[21:11] <lawltoad> Is there any way to install ubuntu on a headless machine via a USB flashdrive
[21:11] <psauxw> gotta re-log to make my dash work again ...brb
[21:11] <Xeology> Xfx 630 gt and I used the recommended 310 along with trying every other available driver
[21:11] <irc4> Any idea how to revert back?
[21:11] <SushiDude> disharmonic, ~/.config/transmission/torrents
[21:12] <trijntje> Nixola: you could maybe try creating a backup of the usb with clonezilla, and then expand that image onto the netbook
[21:12] <disharmonic> SushiDude, thanks m8
[21:13] <Nixola> trijntje: I'll try, thanks
[21:13] <trijntje> Nixola: however, 10.04 won't be supported much longer, so you might want to install a more recent version of ubuntu on it
[21:13] <trijntje> Nixola: I'm not 100% sure its possible though, you should probably check their website
[21:13] <icebird> any idee how to thank you that ubuntu exist for u ?
[21:13] <Nixola> trijntje: Clonezilla's website?
[21:13] <sogeking99> Hey guys I am trying to set up gmote server. It says to work on Linux VLC must be in /usr/bin. I typed whereis VLC and got this: "vlc: /usr/bin/vlc /etc/vlc /usr/lib/vlc /usr/bin/X11/vlc /usr/share/vlc /usr/share/man/man1/vlc.1.gz" but it says error
[21:13] <trijntje> Nixola: yeah
[21:14] <Nixola> thanks
[21:14] <Xeology> Are there other open source drivers for nvidia that work and outperform the nouveau
[21:14] <BluesKaj> Xeology, not the 310.14 I hope, it's experimental , the 310.19 is the stable driver
[21:15] <sogeking99> There was an error loading livrary libvlc.so?
[21:15] <Xeology> 310.19 though I tried the experimental, the 304s and several legacy
[21:15] <ThinkT510> Xeology: nouveau are the open source nvidia drivers
[21:15] <Xeology> I was asking if there were any others
[21:15] <disharmonic> hmm, i'm trying to uninstall transmission and apt os telling me it's not installed. Weird
[21:16] <sogeking99> Cannot open  shared onject file, no such directory exitst?
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> disharmonic  try sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:16] <ThinkT510> Xeology: asside from nv that was abandoned no
[21:16] <disharmonic> MonkeyDust, what does that do?
[21:16] <rgoo001> Can anyone walk me help me fix wireless connection? I'm new to Linux
[21:17] <SushiDude> disharmonic, autoremove removes packages that are no longer needed
[21:17] <Nixola> trijntje: will I be able to resize the main partition (sdb1 on the USB drive, will become sda1)?
[21:17] <disharmonic> SushiDude, well transmission is still installed though
[21:17] <goodbyeearl> whats the problem?
[21:18] <rgoo001> Can anyone help me with my wireless internet connection?
[21:18] <trijntje> disharmonic: try uninstalling it via the software center, maybe you have the wrong package name
[21:18] <trijntje> Nixola: I'm not sure, you should check the documetation for clonezilla
[21:18] <icebird> verdorie mensen jullie hebben een van de mooiste dinegen verwzenlijkt dat mogelijk is  en dat allemaal via open source  txs
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> icebird  hier wordt enkel engels gesproken, ga eens kijken in #ubuntu-nl
[21:19] <trijntje> icebird: graag gedaan/your welcome ;)
[21:19] <rgoo001> Can anyone help me troubleshoot my wireless connection??
[21:19] <disharmonic> trijntje, i found a package named transmission using  apt-cache and it's a bittorrent client. Anyway, i'm opening Synaptic now
[21:20] <rgoo001> where can I get help with my internet connection? anyone?
[21:21] <trijntje> rgoo001: what have you tried to get your wireless to work?
[21:21] <sogeking99> Hey guys I am trying to set up gmote server. It says to work on Linux VLC must be in /usr/bin. I typed whereis VLC and got this: "vlc: /usr/bin/vlc /etc/vlc /usr/lib/vlc /usr/bin/X11/vlc /usr/share/vlc /usr/share/man/man1/vlc.1.gz" but there was an error loading library libvlc.so? Cannot open  shared onject file, no such directory exitst?
[21:21] <disharmonic> Well seems the transmission pkg is just a metapackage remove transmission* did the trick
[21:21] <rgoo001> trijntje: I am still looking around the forums but am very confused with most of the posts. Where do I enter the commands they give out?
[21:22] <trijntje> rgoo001: first things first, search for 'software sources' in the dash, go to the 'additional drivers' tab and see if there are drivers for your wirelss card available
[21:23] <Nixola> is there a way to do that without having to boot other OSes?
[21:23] <trijntje> rgoo001: first connect your pc to the internet using an ethernet cable
[21:24] <icebird> I only wanted to be gratefull for yur courage and persistence to make such  thing happen ;)
[21:24] <rgoo001> trijntje: Thank you for your help. I am currently connected through ethernet. And there is nothing under additional drivers tab in software sources
[21:25] <trijntje> icebird: its actually a lot of fun, you can also help if you want ;)
[21:25] <disharmonic> trijntje, MonkeyDust SushiDude thanks
[21:26] <icebird> man trijntje I am e fedora freek
[21:27] <rgoo001> dc
[21:28] <sherorox> Hello everyone. I was enabling desktop cube in compiz manager, but I think I crashed Unity and now everytime I reboot I get what looks like Ubuntu Classic. I'm on 11.10. How do I re-enable unity?
[21:28] <trijntje> sherorox: alt+f2, then type unity --replace
[21:29] <Simplicity> Is there a way to mount a .ISO to a bootable drive? I don't have any USB's or disks to use.
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> sherorox  unity does not combin[4~e well
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> sherorox  unity does not combine well with the cube, ad consider upgrading
[21:29] <rgoo001> I am dual booting windows 7 / ubuntu. My windows 7 has wireless connection but my Ubuntu cannot connect wirelessly
[21:30] <caion> hi
[21:30] <sherorox> @MonkeyDust: upgrading to what?
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> sherorox  12.04 or 12.10
[21:30] <caion> anyone on this channel speaks portuguese
[21:30] <sherorox> @trijntje: thanks for the answer
[21:30] <disharmonic> !pt | caion
[21:30] <sherorox> @MonkeyDust: what is the difference between 12.10 and 11.10
[21:31] <trijntje> sherorox: your welcome
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> sherorox  i guess 11.10 is no loger supported - 12.10 has more recent versions of software
[21:31] <trijntje> Simplicity: what do you mean with mount to a bootable device?
[21:32] <trijntje> rgoo001: so you can't see your wireless card in the network menu in ubuntu (top right of the screen)
[21:32] <sherorox> @MonkeyDust: okay will do ATM, but it says it'll update to 12.04.1 LTS. Should I be concerned
[21:32] <icebird> trijntje wish could help but I am an artist and u can handel this very well seems to me ;)
[21:32] <Rallias> So... I'm trying to do "dig storage.fortress" on local network, in network manager my DNS is set to <IP_ADDRESS>, but it keeps returning SERVER: <IP_ADDRESS>#53. How do I fix that?
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> sherorox  fine, do continue
[21:32] <Simplicity> trijntje: I want go to from Ubuntu 12.10 to Windows 7, but I have no disks or USBs that I can use to expand the .ISO to.
[21:33] <FordR> I actually have an odd thing to note: the LTS works fine when installed on my laptop, but when I update it to 12.10 it seems whatever graphical drivers that come alongside 12.04 stop functioning.
[21:33] <Rallias> When I do dig @<IP_ADDRESS> it responds correctly.
[21:33] <sherorox> @MonkeyDust: thanks again. I also realized that I don't need an @ for you to see my message
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> sherorox  we're here to learn
[21:33] <FordR> I figured the best way to get around this was to simply manually install drivers from AMD prior to updating, would anyone here have any other suggestions?
[21:33] <rgoo001> trijntje: I can see my wireless connection, however I cannot successfully connect to the network wirelessly
[21:34] <sherorox> MonkeyDust: Very true
[21:34] <vifanq> is there any midnight commander alternative?
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> vifanq  try ranger
[21:37] <rgoo001> how can I detect wireless card / driver??
[21:38] <disharmonic> rgoo001, it should appear in lspci
[21:38] <earspliT> help
[21:39] <rgoo001> disharmonic: what is lspci? Sorry I'm new
[21:39] <vifanq> MonkeyDust: looks specific
[21:39] <expartaco> hola a todos
[21:39] <disharmonic> rgoo001, sry, it's a command. Open a terminal and type lspci and hit enter
[21:39] <Narblo> hola
[21:40] <expartaco> nunca avia usado irc
[21:40] <expartaco> busco gente que sepa linux
[21:40] <escott> !es | expartaco
[21:40] <IdleOne> !es | expartaco
[21:40] <Narblo> si es la primera vez que lo uso :P
[21:40] <nothingspecial> you did it bubba99
[21:40] <expartaco> XD
[21:40] <expartaco> somo dos
[21:41] <rgoo001> disharmonic: Ty, which one is my device? There is a big list
[21:41] <bubba99> yes thanks nothingspec
[21:41] <Narblo> we are two... you have to speak in english here xD
[21:41] <disharmonic> rgoo001, paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com and post the link here
[21:43] <icebird> monolitic kernel thougths lol
[21:44] <icebird> strong and versatile
[21:46] <bubba99> hi guys
[21:46] <Guest77919> hi
[21:46] <teazel> Hi, am having trouble with wget. Trying to download the Java Collections Interface tutorials using this command: wget -I /intro,/interfaces,/implementations/,/algorithms,/custom-implementations/,/interoperability --convert-links -nd http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/collections/TOC.html -- but it only downloads TOC.html. What am I doing wrong?
[21:46] <bubba99> can you help with problems here?
[21:46] <vifanq> lmsensors doesnt detect sensors.. and on my previous distro it did
[21:46] <ANub> i need help..........i killed indicator-applet process and now its not coming back .......not even through reboot
[21:47] <icebird> allez if u are here its because u didn't read wat was supposed to be read ... most of the time
[21:47] <ANub> i need help..........i killed indicator-applet process and now its not coming back .......not even through reboot.....?
[21:48] <bubba99> i got no start up
[21:48] <icebird> lmsensors will not detect acpi lol
[21:48] <bubba99> i get blank screen with No INIT Found
[21:49] <ANub> i need help..........i killed indicator-applet process and now its not coming back .......not even through reboot.....?
[21:49] <icebird> enfin gasten
[21:49] <fox_wilson> ANub: do you still have the panel?
[21:50] <ANub> fox_wilson> you mean is it installed..?
[21:50] <fox_wilson> ANub: no, do you still have the system tray? without indicator-applet?
[21:50] <ANub> fox_wilson> yes it is there
[21:51] <fox_wilson> ANub: go ahead and open up a terminal
[21:51] <ANub> fox_wilson> listening
[21:51] <fox_wilson> ANub: can you start indicator-applet manually?
[21:52] <ANub> fox_wilson> i've tried /usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet-complete ....but doesn't work
[21:52] <fox_wilson> hmmm
[21:53] <fox_wilson> ANub: wait a sec, be right back
[21:53] <ANub> fox_wilson> waiting... :)
[21:53] <PeterCL> Hey everyone! How can I get a detailed description of the Ubuntu sound drivers and settings?
[21:54] <fox_wilson> ANub: I'm assuming the indicator-applet-complete package is installed, not just indicator-applet
[21:54] <fox_wilson> ANub: wait of course it is :D
[21:54] <fox_wilson> otherwise indicator-applet-complete wouldn't be there
 ;)
[21:55] <Note_> Hello, I am wondering if anyone knows what would be the best solution for what I am wanting/require? I have a contact form on my website, I plan on setting this up with PHP and enable anybody whom fills in the form fields send an email to an email address (my domain), and allow me log in to my email address somehow, either by putting in the details of the server into a client such as Mail app on my Mac or on my iPhone, or by logging in somehow
[21:55] <Note_>  with php at a subdomain such as mail.domain.tld, but I'm not quite sure on what I will need, what is the best mail server for my solution?
 no indicator-* process is running .......although when i switch ti Ubuntu indicator-applet is there with all the processes
[21:56] <fox_wilson> ANub: that's odd... maybe it
 no indicator-* process is running .......although when i switch to Ubuntu indicator-applet is there with all the processes
[21:57] <icebird> anyway guys be aware that thanks to all u here this is possible
 Currently I'm logged into Ubuntu (classic no effects)........thats where i killed the process
[21:58] <fox_wilson> ANub: maybe it depends on the time at which it's launched, there isn't a man page and nothing really gives ANY documentation :(
[21:58] <Nixola> trijntje: I have to copy the partition, right?
 I'm constantly googling .........no luck so far
[21:59] <fox_wilson> ANub: I have no solution for you. That's kind of strange - you might want to try to login in to "Ubuntu 2D" to see if that works.
 yes .....it does work
[22:00] <bubba99> i locked myself out of the administration account and ended up shutting down my laptop in guest account. when i restarted the machine it went to a dark screen with run as normal / run as recovery mode / check memory. i tried both and got the same message on the dark screen. NO INIT FOUND TRY PASSING INIT=BOOTARG   I tried booting from usb with a live cd but no joy please help
[22:00] <trijntje> Nixola: you have to make an image of the ubuntu partition on the usb stick, and then extract that image onto the harddisk of your laptop
[22:01] <Nixola> trijntje: perfect, thanks again
[22:03] <trijntje> Nixola: Your welcome, I hope it works, I've never done that myself
[22:03] <Nixola> I'll make you know then
[22:04] <kunji> bubba99: What happens when you're trying the livecd?  Is it just not even attempting to boot from the USB, or does that give some other error, blank screen?  You've set your BIOS to boot first from USB right?  I find some BIOSs will skip it by accident unless you remove the HD from the boot order.  Also sometime I will need to make a USB several times before it will work.  Also you made sure to write GRUB to the boot partition of the USB ri
[22:06] <dr_willis> ive seen bios also remove the usb item if you boot with no usb plugged in. and not add it back when you do plug in a usb
[22:06] <blkadder> Stupid Bios!
[22:06] <blkadder> :-)
[22:06] <bubba99> hi kunji - nothing was happening at all from BIOS set to boot from USB. But when i boot from recovery mode then put the usb stick in after i got a message about some checks but i didnt record it.
[22:07] <kunji> dr_willis: Just who I wanted to see, remember that problem I was having the other day with the computer going to sleep and once core going to 100% cpu use.  I'm having it again today and flash hasn't been running at all today, I think it was just the IRC chat making the computer think it was active.
[22:07] <malimbar> hmm, does anyone know an easy way for me to stream part of my desktop online?
[22:07] <blkadder> bubba99: Did booting from USB ever work?
[22:08] <disharmonic> malimbar, i VLC can do that afaik.
[22:08] <kunji> malimbar: VLC can, but I think there were a few other tools that were a little better, can't remember the names right now though T.T
[22:09] <bubba99> hi blkadder. i only just got this laptop and its first time i used ubuntu. i only had it fired up twice before i had the problem
[22:09] <malimbar> disharmonic: I've looked at VLC, couldn't get it to work. It's a bit complicated thought, so no idea what I might be doing wrong.
[22:09] <blkadder> bubba99: So have you ever tried to boot from USB previously?
[22:09] <kunji> bubba99: Hmm, so did you install Ubuntu from the USB then, or did you receive it with Ubuntu already on there?
[22:10] <bubba99> I received the laptop with ubunto on it already guys
[22:11] <bubba99> blkadder  no not done it before
[22:11] <disharmonic> malimbar, well there's also this. I haven't used either myself
[22:11] <blkadder> bubba99: Then you need Ubuntu on either a USB or DVD to fix it... Essentially you need to boot from that then do a repair on the install that is on your HD
[22:13] <malimbar> disharmonic: there is also what?
[22:13] <bubba99> blkadder  I got the livecd on the usb from the ubuntu home page using unetbootin to create the live cd
[22:13] <kunji> bubba99: Mmk, well, booting from a real cd tends to be better supported by most BIOS, so that is something to try.  You could also try making the USB with some other tools, like Unetbootin.  I find that sometimes I need to make the USB more than once before it will work, no idea why that's the case though.  Also with some BIOS I need to take out the drive and put it in again at the point where the BIOS is looking to do the actual boot.
[22:13] <disharmonic> malimbar, forgot to paste the link :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeseer
[22:13] <kunji> bubba99: Mmk, what I was saying about needing to make it several times applies especially to Unetbootin
[22:14] <malimbar> disharmonic: lol, thanks. I'll look into it
[22:14] <bubba99> kunji  the laptop is a notebook so i dont have real cd access to it
[22:14] <blkadder> bubba99: First step is to get a functional USB install then...
[22:15] <kunji> bubba99: Hmm, mmk, do you have the option to maybe netboot?  But we'll look at that later, I think trying to create the USB 2 or 3 more times is probably the first thing to do.
[22:15] <blkadder> bubba99: Do you have another computer you can test the USB on?
[22:15] <blkadder> bubba99: To determine if it is the USB install or the computer?
[22:16] <kunji> blkadder: That's a good thing to check, but I've had them work on one, but not another, and then recreating would let it work, with Unetbootin they just tend to be a bit finicky.
[22:17] <bubba99> ok blkadder / kunji - I have wiped the usb stick 3 times already and reloaded but I will keep trying. in the meantime am i better trying to go through recovery mode - then put usb stick in or go straight to usb boot?
[22:17] <blkadder> kunji: Understood, was just trying to narrow the issue down...
[22:17] <kunji> bubba99: Oh, sorry, didn't realize you already did 3 times, hmm
[22:17] <blkadder> kunji: I've had flaky images too so understood.
[22:17] <kunji> blkadder: ^_^
[22:18] <Atlantic777> maybe it's a good idea to do check if the image is valid
[22:18] <Atlantic777> checksum and stuff
[22:18] <bubba99> blkadder - no i dont have another pc i can test on. i am extracting the livecd from a windows based laptop though. will that matter?
[22:18] <blkadder> bubba99: It shouldn't if it is done properly. :-)
[22:19] <bubba99> this is a work laptop so i dont have write access to save to it
[22:21] <Nixola> trijntje: ok, I succesfully managed to waste all the time I spent since now. I just started to copy the partition
[22:21] <Peyam> Hi
[22:21] <Peyam> Why do I have 5 more degrees with ubuntu than xubuntu?
[22:21] <blkadder> Continental drift.
[22:21] <Peyam> I have temp 50 here and with xubuntu 40-44
[22:21] <nightfly> Doing more work regularly?
[22:21] <Peyam> no
[22:21] <Peyam> I hardly use anything
[22:22] <Peyam> Ofcourse I use two screens now
[22:22] <Peyam> but wtf?
[22:22] <nightfly> I meant background CPU usage
[22:22] <blkadder> But the system might be.
[22:22] <kunji> bubba99: You could try running fsck from the rescue shell as someone suggested here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386549  You might need something different than /dev/sda1 though, use sudo fdisk -l to see what partitions you have and run it for the one Ubuntu is installed on.
[22:22] <disharmonic> Peyam, xfce doesn't use HW GPU acceleration afaik
[22:22] <Peyam> is it why?
[22:22] <Hishm1> Evening everyone
[22:22] <nightfly> Could be, you're the only one who could find out for sure
[22:22] <Peyam> what do I do to make it coler
[22:23] <nightfly> Is it really a problem though?
[22:23] <kunji> bubba99: I'm not entirely sure if that works from rescue or not though, because I think the partition should not be mounted, I think it's not mounted for the rescue shell, but I'm not entirely sure
[22:23] <Peyam> It just irritates me
[22:23] <disharmonic> Peyam, is it a laptop?
[22:23] <Peyam> no
[22:23] <Peyam> desktop
[22:23] <Hishm1> does anyone here have ubuntu 12.10 with skype 4.1 working?
[22:23] <bubba99> when i go recovery mode way with the usb i get the following  -     usb 1-1: new high speed usb device numer 3 using ehci_hcd  [251.435138] initializing usb mass storage driver     scsi2 : us-storage 1-1:1.0    usbcore:registered new interface driver usb-storage   usb mass storage support registered. no caching mode page present etc
[22:24] <kunji> bubba99: Do recovery mode without the usb, the usb won't really be helpful if we can't boot from it.
[22:24] <disharmonic> Well 50C is hardly a lot tbh.
[22:24] <bpcomp> Hishm1: I'm on 12.04 with skype 4.1
[22:24] <Peyam> disharmonic: I just wana know why.. Have I made a misstake to have ubuntu?
[22:25] <kunji> bubba99: Also, after you know what partition (/dev/sdxx) the Ubuntu install is on, then you can check the UUID by using blkid and make sure it matches the one in the GRUB menu entry.
[22:25] <Hishm1> ok,bpcomp, I tried to install skype on my system but it gives me the worng architecture error
[22:25] <Hishm1> i386 was the wrong one
[22:25] <Peyam> Hishm1: libc++6.
[22:26] <bpcomp> Hishm1: are you running 12.10 64bit?
[22:26] <Hishm1> yes
[22:26] <qualia> Hi ! How do I get to the GRUB selection screen on startup ? It skips it and starts ubuntu even though I have BSD on SSdrive and customized the boot entry
[22:26] <qualia> (it's UEFI)
[22:26] <bpcomp> i386 is 32 bit binary
[22:26] <bpcomp> you want the x86_64
[22:26] <Hishm1> my system architecture is amd64
[22:26] <Peyam> qualia: google Grub repair
[22:26] <Hishm1> according my system itself
[22:27] <bubba99> kunji - when i type sudo fdisk-1 i get the result sudo not found
[22:27] <disharmonic> Peyam, Unity, the ubuntu desktop, has more bling and therefore uses more resources. This is the most likely cause of the temp difference. There is nothing wrong with it. XFCE is simply more lightweight, while Unity has some extra features and looks good.
[22:27] <kunji> bubba99: That's a lower case 'L' not a '1'
[22:27] <kunji> qualia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2
[22:28] <elise001> Do people get together/meet any place near Stanford University?
[22:28] <Peyam> disharmonic: I knew that but 50 degrees at minimum? it is crazy
[22:28] <blkadder> bubba99: If you are in a root shell you probably don't need sudo.
[22:28] <Nixola> trijntje: damn, it doesn't work
[22:28] <bpcomp> Hishm1: That's weird. They skype page is offering the i386 download for the 64 and 32 bit systems
[22:28] <kunji> elise001: 50 C?  CPU?  That's not terribly unusual.
[22:29] <zykotick9> Hishm1: don't reply to me, i have nothing further.  are you using wheezy?  as skype (even supposed 64bit, which isn't actually) relies on ia32-libs which might not be compatible with multiarch on wheezy... i wouldn't know, i don't use skype.
[22:29] <kunji> bpcomp: It should work on both
[22:29] <jhansonxi> FYI: No more getdeb, needs new maintainer: https://plus.google.com/+getdeb/posts/FF1gRuZN7pM
[22:29] <zykotick9> Hishm1: sorry! wrong channel!
[22:29] <bubba99> kunji - i changed for lower case l - no difference in result
[22:29] <bpcomp> kunji: he's getting a wrong architectuer error
[22:29] <disharmonic> Peyam, it's not ideal. Not all CPUs report temps accurately though. Keep that in mind
[22:30] <Hishm1> no problem zy
[22:30] <bubba99> blkadder what is a rootshell?
[22:30] <kunji> bpcomp: I know, but I've installed both before on 64 bit, they both do work under normal circumstances, something else is a bit screwy on his setup I guess.
[22:30] <Hishm1> bpcomp: I tried to download every package of their site, but none worked for me
[22:31] <blkadder> bubba99: Is the command line you are typing into prefaced with a "#"?
[22:31] <kunji> Hishm1: Have you tried just using the one from the repos?  -_-
[22:32] <Hishm1> kunji: I heard that one was fake, but I tried it didn't work
[22:32] <kunji> bubba99: Sorry, try without sudo, since as someone mentioned, the rescue shell is as root anyway.  So just fdisk -l
[22:32] <bubba99> blkadder i have a command line with (initramfs) before what i write
[22:32] <bpcomp> Hishm1: Have you tried installing form the command line?
[22:32] <bpcomp> Hishm1: sudo apt-get install skype
[22:32] <kunji> Hishm1: fake?.... who have you mean talking to?  The one in the Ubuntu repos is perfectly real.
[22:32] <Hishm1> bpcomp yes
[22:32] <blkadder> bubba99: I believe you are root already... :-)
[22:33] <blkadder> bubba99: So no need to use the sudo
[22:33] <bubba99> kunji  no gap between fdisk and -l?
[22:33] <Hishm1> kunji: No idea wich article i was reading then lol
[22:33] <blkadder> bubba99: Yes there is a gap
[22:33] <kunji> bubba99: one space in between
[22:33] <Hishm1> bpcomp: But still I got the error there too
[22:34] <Nixola> trijntje: I'm gonna try cloning the entire disk
[22:34] <bpcomp> Hishm1: what exactly is the error?
[22:34] <kunji> Hishm1: Have you made sure that Skype was properly uninstalled in between your attempts to install it?
[22:35] <Hishm1> bpcomp: a second please, I am going to try installing it again and will copy the error for you
[22:35] <bubba99> kunji with 1 space the result is  /bin/sh: fdisk: not found
[22:35] <Hishm1> kunji: I never had skype installed before on my system
[22:35] <kunji> bubba99: Hmm, oh, this is the GRUB rescue shell isn't it, not the Ubuntu rescue one?
[22:36] <kunji> Hishm1: It gives you the architecture error during the install, not after when you try to run it?
[22:36] <isis_> hello
[22:37] <isis_> Can someone help me please? I've got two problems from updates, first one is  with with grub. I set it up couple months ago, and about two weeks ago, some  update broke it. It never actualy really worked, it boots very randomly. I  figured out that it works ok with "noapic" option, but I didn't know how to put  it there, so I put an entry in /etc/grub.d/40_custom, chainloading grub1 from
[22:37] <isis_>  anoher part/ition with basic gentoo instalation, and booting ubuntu from  gentoo's grub, with noapic option. But couple weeks ago, after an update, grub1  stopped working. Now this is interesting, because I didn't change the settings  and I don't usualy boot or change anything in gentoo. The settings is still in  40_custom, I can choose it ubuntu's grub2 menu, but upon selection, the screen
[22:37] <isis_>  just oes purple for at second and I'm back in ubuntu's grub2, instead of  gentoo's grub1. The best would be to have a way to add noapic to grub2. I tried  many times, but couldn't succeed, eventualy gave up and installed gentoo and  grub 1 for booting. Now it's broken again :(
[22:37] <bubba99> kunji  yes i think so.im not familiar with all the terms yet. but im learning fast   :)
[22:38] <Hishm1> bpcomp: It says to me that i am missing skype-bin and isn't installable also
[22:38] <Hishm1> kunji: It doesn't show up
[22:38] <bpcomp> Hishm1: What is the exact error message
[22:40] <Hishm1> bpcomp: it is in dutch, it says exactly that i miss skype-bin and I also can't install it
[22:40] <Hishm1> bpcomp: about the skype-bin it is speaking of
[22:40] <bpcomp> Hishm1: copy the error, I know a little dutch
[22:40] <Hishm1> bpcomp: De volgende pakketten hebben niet-voldane vereisten:
[22:40] <Hishm1>  skype : Vereisten: skype-bin maar het is niet installeerbaar
[22:40] <Hishm1> E: Kan problemen niet verhelpen, u houdt defecte pakketten vast.
[22:40] <bubba99> kunji if i type in /dev/sda1  i get the result  /bin/sh: /dev/sda1: permission denied
[22:40] <kunji> bubba99: Damn, I never did learn how to do anything useful in that, there's very few things to work with.  I guess I'm going to refer you to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting  Really I think you might need to aim for getting your hands on a USB cd-rom drive or something though.  So there's some things you can try on there, maybe someone else here will know more than me.
[22:42] <bpcomp> Hishm1: type in the command line, which skype
[22:43] <bpcomp> does it return anything?
[22:43] <Hishm1> bpcomp: i am awaiting for the response from command line
[22:44] <blkadder> bubba99: kunji is right... You need a working USB image.
[22:44] <bpcomp> so nothing
[22:44] <Hishm1> Yea nothing, I repeated it
[22:44] <bpcomp> go look in /usr/bin for skype and see if there is anything there
[22:44] <bubba99> kunji i just typed in the blkid and got this result   uuid="b13717b1-d190-4e22-ab90-b767-c7b9952d" TYPE ="ext4"
[22:44] <shubham> hello everyone
[22:45] <bubba99> kunji  next line is
[22:45] <bubba99> kunji that was sda1
[22:46] <Hishm1> bpcomp: no there is nothing about skype in here
[22:46] <bubba99> kunji  sda5 is the other to type out now
[22:46] <shubham> can anyone tell me about gsoc
[22:46] <bpcomp> Hishm1: can you install any other programs?
[22:46] <Hishm1> Yes I can
[22:47] <shubham> Hishm1 thanx
[22:47] <kunji> bubba99: If it matches what is in the GRUB menu for where it's trying to boot from, then that's not the problem, I just wanted to verify that.  If the one in the GRUB menu is different, then change it to match the UUID of the partition that Ubuntu is on.
[22:47] <shubham> i have just started using open source
[22:47] <bubba99> kunji   sda5 is uuid="2e155f93-3e52-4268-9685-d8f97e6041c7" TYPE ="swap"
[22:47] <Omen_20> Does anyone know if web-apps will be able to work with key shortcuts? I'd love for webapps like Pandora to work with my media keys on my laptop.
[22:47] <Hishm1> lol shubham
[22:47] <folorn> anyone know how to view your boxes stats again i forgot the command
[22:47] <bpcomp> shubham: Hishm1 was answering a question I asked
[22:47] <kunji> bubba99: looks like it's probably on /dev/sda1 then
[22:48] <shubham> k sorry
[22:48] <shubham> but can anyone help me with gsoc
[22:48] <bpcomp> shubham: NP, I would help you with GSOC but I don't really know much
[22:48] <bpcomp> Hishm1: so when you try to install, that is the error you get back?
[22:48] <folorn> nobody know :)?
[22:49] <shubham> atleast first steps
[22:49] <shubham> how to get in?
[22:49] <bubba99> kunji which one is reported as it being on sda1 or sda5 . and where do i find the grub menu ??
[22:49] <bpcomp> folorn: sudo lshw
[22:49] <Hishm1> bpcomp, from the softwarecentre it says wrong architecture, but from the command line, I am missing skype-bin
[22:50] <folorn> thanks bpcomp
[22:51] <kunji> bubba99: The fdisk -l showed the sizes of partitions and their types, hopefully you can verify by that that Ubuntu is on /dev/sda1.  We know it's not on sda5 right away because it is a swap partition.  I forget where that's listed in the GRUB menu, lemme look it up.
[22:51] <Isildur> someone can tell me why when I add the network card wlan0 system gives me the following error: can't add wlan0 to bridge br0: Operation not supported
[22:52] <Isildur> someone can tell me why when I add the network card wlan0 to bridge the system gives me the following error
[22:52] <bubba99> kunji  igot nothing from using the fdisk command. this info on sda1 and 5 came from the blkid command
[22:52] <isis_> Can someone help me with grub please?
[22:53] <icebird> hishm 1  install ubuntu tweek and cleanup  maybe could help
[22:53] <kunji> bubba99: Right, they will report the same filesystem types though, we just can't verify the size with blkid
[22:53] <Isildur>  can't add wlan0 to bridge br0: Operation not supported
[22:53] <bubba99> kunji is the grub menu in the root shell?
[22:54] <Hishm1> icebird: I think ubuntu 12.10 64-bit is incompatible, they need to work on it
[22:54] <icebird> could be i have 32 bit but it works
[22:55] <kunji> bubba99: Not the menu itself, rather the config file that the menu is displayed from, I don't think the menu will typically show the UUID.
[22:55] <icebird> indeed
[22:55] <Hishm1> Ok, thanks for any help/effort
[22:56] <icebird> u could do it manualy if u dare going to var lol
[22:56] <bubba99> kunji why doesnt the fdisk command work?
[22:57]  * blkadder consoles kunji
[22:57] <kunji> bubba99: Because the GRUB shell is an extremely stripped down shell T.T
[22:57] <bubba99> kunji does it only work in the ubuntu terminal then ?
[22:58] <Hishm1> Bye all
[22:58] <kunji> bubba99: Does it have access to nano?  Try "nano /dev/sda1/boot/grub/grub.cfg"  And see if it show you anything or complains.
[22:58] <kunji> bubba99: Yeah
[22:59] <kunji> bubba99: Or, if that doesn't work, then use more /dev/sda1/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:00] <bubba99> is that sda one or little l?
[23:00] <kunji> bubba99: one
[23:00] <bubba99> kunji ok trying now
[23:01] <kunji> bubba99: I think you need to fine yourself a different font :P
[23:01] <kunji> *find
[23:01] <bubba99> kunji  nano row says not found
[23:01] <kunji> bubba99: mmk, try more instead, that should work I think
[23:02] <qualia> I don't know who here suggested me the boot-repair but not even that recognizes the BSD filesystem
[23:02] <kunji> qualia: Hmm, what FS type is it?  You can always add he entry manually.
[23:02] <kunji> *the
[23:03] <qualia> UFS, but it's on solid state, (hybrid hdd-sdd) could that be the reason ?
[23:03] <bubba99> kunji  for more it says can't open    not a directory
[23:05] <isis_> emm, can you see what i'm typing?
[23:05] <qualia> I added entry manually, but it doesn't even show me the OS selection screen
[23:05] <Rafael212> Vitorlobo?
[23:06] <qualia> oh i forgot to say, it's uefi efi whatever that makes the whole thing disgustingly problematic
[23:06] <kunji> qualia: Did you run update-grub afterwards?
[23:06] <qualia> yes
[23:07] <bonez2046> I d/ld and burned the 12.10 desktop iso today, installed it on a machine, and it sems like it is all installed, but it's taking FOREVER to finally present the 'desktop'...is this normal, that horrendously long wait time upon first bootup/configuration run?
[23:08] <qualia> and update-grub didn't recognize it. Everything is on HDD but bsd is on SDD, maybe that makes things harder
[23:08] <kunji> qualia: You didn't add it directly did you?  Because since GRUB2 the main config file is generated from the script, so if you added it directly, then update-grub would be overwriting it rather than adding it.
[23:08] <qualia> yeah after i saw that update-grub didn't recognize anything i added it manually
[23:08] <trijntje> Nixola: your pc will get confused if it has two disks/partitions that are identical
[23:09] <qualia> without the search option though, im gonna include the kernel search option this time and see if there's a change
[23:09] <kunji> bubba99: Hmm, try using cd to change directories and see what point it's stopping at, I'm guessing it's at the /dev/sda1 though
[23:09] <esy> Hi
[23:09] <esy> The daily build of raring is updated every day?
[23:09] <Nixola> trijntje: even though they're "different"? one is sda1, the other is sda2
[23:09] <Nixola> sda1/sdb1*
[23:09] <kunji> bubba99: I guess the GRUB shell uses a special format for that, like (hd,X,Y) as you will see used quite a bit here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[23:10] <trijntje> Nixola: yeah, because they also have the same identifier (UUID), which should be impossible as far as your pc knows
[23:10] <esy> I mean, if I install it and a new feature is released tomorrow, will I have to install tomorrow's build or will I have an update?
[23:10] <kunji> qualia: Hmm, try that I guess, adding it should work, it hasn't given me trouble before, it's been a while since I played with GRUB though.
[23:10] <qualia> hd,1,a    is like sda and it's first slice I think
[23:10] <bubba99> kunji  which cd?
[23:10] <machicola> anyone have the issue where the update notification flags red on the taskbar while Ubuntu is actually up to date
[23:11] <Nixola> trijntje: how can I change the UUID of one of them?
[23:11] <bonez2046> 12.10? anyone else find is loading slowly?
[23:12] <bubba99> kunji yeah i just tried putting the cat (hd0,1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg command and it came back with not found
[23:12] <kunji> bubba99: The cd command, as in "cd /dev/sda1"  to change to the directory /dev/sda1, but I think that to change between partitions the grub rescue shell actually needs to use that other format, so something like "cd (hd0,1)"
[23:13] <bubba99> the first link you posted for me No init found - the first list of problems is exactly what i get on the screen when i boot from mount down to init=bootarg
[23:13] <kunji> bubba99: See if the tab completion wants to be helpful at all, it's been a long time since I saw that obnoxious shell
[23:13] <icebird> man tune2fs | less +2/-U
[23:14] <kunji> bubba99: Gotta go, dinner time for my family, so I'll be back after that.
[23:14] <zlatan> hi, is there any other way to kill process (then sudo kill <PID>)
[23:15] <mh0> zlatan: There's killall
[23:15] <bubba99> i just put the cd /dev/sda1 and it gave me a   >
[23:15] <mh0> killall java would kill all instances of java
[23:15] <BlessJah> after messing with apt inside chroot environment, i get error during some updates: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.5.3-1-ARCH/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[23:16] <mh0> I also beleive for GUI, kill -x also makes a "x" appear, in which you can select the window to kill
[23:16] <bubba99> kunji  do you know what that means ?   >
[23:16] <mh0> Wait...
[23:16] <mh0> xkill, sorry :P