[12:26] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-se, einand said: !einand is <reply>Världens coolast och bästa människa
[12:51] <glade88> 'lo -- I was told in some channel that ubuntu irc team has private wiki pages. is that true? and if it is, I'd like to know how (interests the brainstorm moderator team)
[13:00] <elkbuntu> if we do, it's the first i've heard of it
[13:02] <glade88> elkbuntu: hehe.. thanks.
[13:48] <A4Tech> jrib: ?
[13:49] <muzanaka> I'm here
[13:49] <jrib> A4Tech: Hi, muzanaka is trying to join #ubuntu-ru.  The ban on 91.145.* is catching him though.  He's here now
[13:50] <A4Tech> jrib: http://itmages.ru/view.php?action=view&id=1731&key=ad68c7 - i'm don't now who is banned him
[13:50] <muzanaka> Why I was baned?
[13:51] <A4Tech> now == know
[13:51] <muzanaka> Why  was I baned?
[13:51] <jrib> A4Tech: it's a pretty wide ban though, I doubt it's muzanaka, but just someone with a similar ip.  He seems fine in #ubuntu and here
[13:52] <A4Tech> perhaps coincided network
[13:53] <muzanaka> When I can connect to #ubuntu-ru?
[13:53] <A4Tech> sec
[13:54] <A4Tech> jrib: I have to write down the address, because I do not know who blocked it, but we have other people's taboos operators are untouched
[13:55] <A4Tech> muzanaka connect to #ubuntu-ru
[13:57] <jrib> A4Tech: I see
[13:58] <muzanaka> thanks
[13:58] <muzanaka> )))
[13:59] <muzanaka> I'm veru glad, that you helped me)
[13:59] <muzanaka> very
[18:58]  * emmajane waves.
[18:58] <Nafallo> hi emmajane :-)
[18:58]  * Netcowboy looks
[18:58] <emmajane> pleia2 sent me here and said that I can get "hooked up." Really I just want a cloak though. /me is an Ubuntu Member.
[18:59] <emmajane> https://launchpad.net/~emmajane
[18:59] <emmajane> Nafallo, hey :)
[18:59]  * Nafallo have forgot who to ping about that :-)
[18:59] <Nafallo> nalioth? ^--
[18:59] <emmajane> awww
[19:00] <pleia2> emmajane: just hang about :) someone will show up to handle it soon enough
[19:00]  * emmajane nods at pleia2
[19:01] <Nafallo> jpds, Myrtti: one of you would need the procedure to add a cloak? :-)
[19:03] <jpds> emmajane: Make sure: "/msg NickServ info" shows that you have a grouped nick and email set.
[19:04] <emmajane> jpds, yup :)
[19:04] <jpds> emmajane: Prefect, that should be all.
[19:06] <emmajane> jpds, that's it?
[19:06] <emmajane> jpds, it'll just cloak me from now on?
[19:06] <jpds> emmajane: As soon as you identify to NickServ, it'll apply your cloak.
[19:07] <jpds> emmajane: But you'll have to wait for nal. or Price.y to turn up to set the cloak.
[19:07] <emmajane> jpds, cool :)
[19:20] <jpds> ubot2: info figlet
[19:20] <ubot2> jpds: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[19:20] <jpds> Gah.
[19:24] <jpds> stdin: Odd, looks like it's still failing on Description-cc_CC parsing in lastest trunk.


[20:58] <gdh0> hello!
[20:58] <gdh0> do you know how to get in touch with LaptopTestingTeam ?
[21:35] <paoligno> hi. i want to buy this notebook: SONY SZ71E/B T7250 2GB 160GB DL 13.3" VHP      . is it fully compatible with ubuntu?


[04:44] <leftyfb-> hello?
[04:47] <Turl> hi leftyfb-
[04:48] <leftyfb-> does anyone here run the official ubuntu website/domains?
[04:49] <Turl> leftyfb-: yep. newz2000 is in charge of ubuntu.com and the wikis iirc
[04:49]  * newz2000 also blogs about pizza sometimes too
[04:50] <leftyfb-> hi there newz2000
[04:50] <newz2000> hello
[04:50] <Turl> newz2000: what kind of pizza? you made me feel hungry :P
[04:50] <newz2000> Well, tonight I was actually blogging about cutting pizza
[04:50] <leftyfb-> Was wondering if you guys had any future plans for spreadubuntu beyond just forwarding it to the main page?
[04:51] <newz2000> http://is.gd/qEjA Turl
[04:51] <newz2000> leftyfb-: I don't have any plans for it
[04:51] <newz2000> this is kind of a community effort
[04:52] <leftyfb-> Have you considered pointing it to the rapidly growing and popular "spread ubuntu" effort going on over at http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org
[04:53] <Turl> newz2000: good pizzalistic ideas :)
[04:53] <newz2000> it's making me hungry too
[04:54] <newz2000> leftyfb-: is there more than one spread ubuntu effort?
[04:54] <Turl> leftyfb-: didn't know that site, seems a good one - and it's even in my native language! :)
[04:54] <leftyfb-> newz2000: not that i know of
[04:55] <newz2000> leftyfb-: last I heard the spread ubuntu efforts were being run by the #ubuntu-marketing team
[04:55] <newz2000> I think that's probably a good place for it
[04:55] <leftyfb-> it'd make things a lot easier to find that one if we could just use spreadubuntu.com/org
[04:55] <newz2000> If help is needed with the web specific aspects those topics could be discussed through this group... we have numerous drupal experts
[04:56] <newz2000> I see what you're asking now
[04:56] <leftyfb-> well, i dont run the site. Just saw the need to make it easier to find and raise awareness
[04:56] <newz2000> I didn't even know that domain was registered
[04:57] <leftyfb-> com/org/net
[04:57] <leftyfb-> all point to the main site
[04:57] <leftyfb-> kinda pointless
[04:57] <newz2000> leftyfb-: are you part of the ubuntu-marketing team?
[04:57] <leftyfb-> nope ... just help run the MA LoCo and the site was brought up at a couple of our meetings
[04:58] <Turl> newz2000: they are registered by James Troup, maybe he can contact him?
[04:58] <newz2000> yes, I can contact him
[04:58] <leftyfb-> oh, those aren't owned by Canonical?
[04:58] <Turl> leftyfb-: James Troup works at canonical
[04:58] <newz2000> leftyfb-: are you part of the group that does spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org?
[04:59] <leftyfb-> nope
[04:59] <leftyfb-> like i said
[05:00] <leftyfb-> nope ... just help run the MA LoCo and the site was brought up at a couple of our meetings. i felt the need to come ask if we could get the spreadubuntu domain(s) pointed to a more appropriate site
[05:01] <newz2000> I would consider doing it. I think I'd want to talk to the team handling it first.
[05:01] <newz2000> I'll put it on my todo list for next week
[05:01] <leftyfb-> cool
[05:02] <leftyfb-> by team, you mean the team handling the http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org site right?
[05:02] <newz2000> yes
[05:04] <Turl> newz2000: how's the geo ip download system going?
[05:04] <newz2000> stalled
[05:04] <Turl> :/
[05:04] <newz2000> the drupal 6 upgrade took too long
[05:04] <newz2000> but it's still high on my todo list, I hope to work on it this summer
[05:04] <Turl> I'll have to wait until karmic then
[05:05] <newz2000> I have an idea...
[05:05] <newz2000> create a url such as www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download/latest-32bit.iso
[05:05] <leftyfb-> geo ip download?
[05:05] <newz2000> it would really be a php/drupal page that downloads the iso
[05:06] <newz2000> then people wouldn't need forms
[05:06] <Turl> leftyfb-: automatic mirror selection
[05:06] <newz2000> just links to the proper ISO file
[05:06] <leftyfb-> closer doesn't always mean faster
[05:06] <newz2000> that's true, automatic detection is very tricky
[05:07] <leftyfb-> i give out the MIT mirror all the time and people find it one of the fastest from anywhere in the world
[05:07] <Turl> leftyfb-: where are you in?
[05:07] <leftyfb-> MA :)
[05:07] <newz2000> :-)
[05:07] <newz2000> south america says that europe is faster than north america
[05:07] <Turl> and where's that? :p
[05:07] <leftyfb-> Massachusetts
[05:07] <newz2000> USA
[05:08] <newz2000> Boston is in MA
[05:08] <Turl> oh, I see
[05:08] <leftyfb-> or TN
[05:08] <leftyfb-> but mainly known for MA
[05:09] <Turl> here in south america you usually get high speeds on 1)mirrors in your country 2) Mirrors in very near countries 3) Mirrors in europe/usa
[05:09] <newz2000> Turl: where are you again?
[05:09] <Turl> newz2000: Argentina. The last country from top to bottom
[05:09] <leftyfb-> newz2000: what about using the same mechanism that the automatic/fastest mirror selection in the software sources tool uses?
[05:10] <Turl> leftyfb-: that would require users to run an app that does that.
[05:10] <newz2000> leftyfb-: I'll look into it but I don't think it's anything special
[05:10] <Turl> it pings all the servers and downloads from the less-latency ones
[05:10] <Turl> and checks speeds
[05:11] <leftyfb-> hm
[05:11] <newz2000> oh, I thought it was just country based with some dns tricks for countries without a mirror
[05:11] <leftyfb-> no
[05:11] <leftyfb-> it checks
[05:11] <leftyfb-> Turl is right
[05:11] <leftyfb-> didnt think about people not using ubuntu to download the iso
[05:11] <Turl> newz2000: ar.archive.ubuntu.com is in USA iirc. not even near argentina
[05:11] <newz2000> yeah, that's common
[05:11] <newz2000> Turl: are you in Beunos Aries?
[05:11] <Turl> leftyfb-: windows people download the ISO commonly
[05:11]  * newz2000 thinks we may have had this conversation before
[05:12] <Turl> newz2000: nope, on Rosario. But I used to leave near buenos aires (70km from there)
[05:12] <newz2000> I think I may be in Beunos Aries in a month or two
[05:13] <Turl> newz2000: it's "Buenos" :)
[05:13] <Turl> newz2000: do you speak some spanish?
[05:13] <newz2000> about 8 words
[05:13] <newz2000> :-) He leaves.
[05:14] <newz2000> :-)
[05:14] <newz2000> I know about 8 - 10 words of Spanish
[05:15] <Turl> sorry, pidgin crashed and this new indicator-applet is crap, I can't see if pidgin is running at a glance
[05:15] <Turl> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=es&geocode=&q=rosario,argentina&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.095668,86.660156&ie=UTF8&ll=-33.906896,-61.875&spn=8.129552,21.665039&z=6&iwloc=addr
[05:15] <Turl> see, I live in "Rosario"
[05:15] <newz2000> gotcha
[05:15] <Turl> and I used to live in "Campana"
[05:15] <Turl> the little dot under the road # 12
[05:16] <newz2000> I didn't realize Buenos Airies was so close to the water
[05:16] <Turl> it's just between Rosario and Buenos Aires
[05:16] <Turl> newz2000: Buenos Aires has docks and all that ;)
[05:16] <Turl> there are a lot of boats stopping there and whatelse
[05:17] <Turl> it's a very big place, has lots of containers near the river :P
[05:18] <Turl> newz2000: http://www.lsis.org/imsm07/gallery/images/Puerto%20Madero%201_jpg.jpg
[05:18] <Turl> http://www.mvl.gov.ar/sec_privada/img_lugares/puerto de Olivos.jpg
[05:18] <newz2000> I see
[05:19] <newz2000> Turl: do you have a day job?
[05:19] <Turl> newz2000: if you come, buy some "alfajores" and try "dulce de leche". You won't regret :)
[05:19] <newz2000> ok
[05:19] <Turl> newz2000: I'm 16, I'm doing 4th year of secondary school :)
[05:20] <Turl> here the last one is 5th, so it's still 2 years to go (+ university)
[05:21] <newz2000> Turl: if it makes you feel better I think my panel just crashed
[05:21] <newz2000> :-)
[05:21] <Turl> my pidgin crashed *again* :p
[05:21] <Turl> newz2000: on jaunty?
[05:21] <newz2000> yeah
[05:21] <leftyfb-> use a real irc client
[05:22] <Turl> leftyfb-: real irc clients don't have jabber+msn support
[05:22] <Turl> newz2000: did you install kerneloops ?
[05:22] <leftyfb-> i use carrier for IM's and xchat for IRC
[05:22] <newz2000> Turl: no
[05:23] <newz2000> leftyfb-: I stick to default ubuntu apps as much as possible
[05:23] <newz2000> dogfood and etc
[05:23] <Turl> newz2000: install it then. help kerneloops.org identify the most common kernel oops :)
[05:23] <newz2000> I don't think I've had a kernel oops in a long time
[05:23] <Turl> newz2000: I have one which appears every time I reboot :p it's related with my intel wifi
[05:23] <newz2000> definitely not since I switched to jaunty
[05:24] <leftyfb-> i would too if the pidgin devs weren't systematically destroying their project and alienating their users
[05:24] <Turl> leftyfb-: it's true, pidgin quality is decreasing
[05:24] <newz2000> leftyfb-: yeah, there was discussion to switch the default client to empathy, don't know where that went though
[05:24] <Turl> a friend uses this telepathy thing, I might switch too
[05:24] <Turl> empathy*
[05:25] <newz2000> the interesting thing about pidgin is that since the split it into a separate UI and library package more IM packages are coming out using the libpurple
[05:25] <Turl> newz2000: https://launchpad.net/cloudsession
[05:25] <leftyfb-> i like the idea of telepathy, but it's tough to switch from polished and feature rich applications to barebones and limitatiions
[05:25] <Turl> newz2000: the problem is, libpurple crashes sometimes :P
[05:26] <newz2000> yeah
[05:26] <newz2000> I run bip so that I'm always connected
[05:26] <newz2000> that's an interesting looking package (cloudsession)
[05:26] <leftyfb-> i run a BNC for that
[05:26] <Turl> bip? what's what?
[05:27] <newz2000> Turl: it's an IRC proxy
[05:27] <leftyfb-> hm
[05:27] <leftyfb-> loco wiki is broken
[05:27] <leftyfb-> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MassachusettsTeam
[05:27] <newz2000> it runs on a server and stays connected to IRC and then you connect to it as if it were your own private irc server
[05:27] <Turl> newz2000: that's a software I'm doing with a friend
[05:27] <newz2000> Turl: how far along are you?
[05:28] <Turl> newz2000: what do you mean with that?
[05:28] <leftyfb-> the trouble with remote management is NATing
[05:28] <newz2000> How much have you got done?
[05:28] <leftyfb-> only way to do it easy is with an online subscription service
[05:29] <leftyfb-> eg: gotomypc
[05:29] <Turl> newz2000: it can ping, screenshot on the 3 main OSes and shutdown on the 3 main OSes (shutting down is not still on the control UI, but should be easy to add)
[05:29] <leftyfb-> most people dont want to or know how to forward ports on a firewall
[05:30] <newz2000> Turl: when you get ready to release something let me know, I know some people who'd like to see it I think
[05:31] <Turl> newz2000: ok :)
[05:31] <Turl> the protocol itself is ready, the functionality is just missing (ie code to reboot, suspend, whatever)
[05:31] <leftyfb-> Turl: do you have any solutions/ideas for getting around NAT's transparently?
[05:32] <Turl> leftyfb-: this is a setup once-works forever thing. it's not suppoused to work around nat :P
[05:32] <leftyfb-> not sure i follow
[05:32] <Turl> but you can always use good old ssh to do that, if needed
[05:33] <Turl> leftyfb-: this is a software for, let's say, manage the 30 pcs on an IT lab, on an office, or why not, at home
[05:34] <leftyfb-> landscape
[05:34] <Turl> but it's not something you would send a friend to fix him a problem
[05:34] <newz2000> landscape doesn't do screen sharing
[05:35] <leftyfb-> how would cloudsession do screen sharing through NAT?
[05:35] <leftyfb-> how would cloudsession do screen sharing through NAT?
[05:35] <newz2000> ah, my panel came back
[05:35] <leftyfb-> you need to open ports or ssh a reverse ssh tunnel
[05:35] <Turl> leftyfb-: you open a port on your router and that's it :P
[05:35] <newz2000> wow, it's 1:35am in Argentina
[05:35] <leftyfb-> ok, so this isn't for the average user
[05:36] <Turl> leftyfb-: nope, as I said if for special needs
[05:36] <newz2000> there is some way that clients can open ports on routers, I've seen games do it.
[05:36] <newz2000> Maybe using UPnP
[05:36] <Turl> or for the home user who has 2+ pcs
[05:36] <leftyfb-> upnp
[05:36] <Turl> newz2000: that's true too
[05:36] <leftyfb-> most routers dont enable it by default
[05:36] <Turl> I might implement it in the future
[05:37] <Turl> leftyfb-: I don't even know if my crappy one supports that :p
[05:37] <leftyfb-> canonical needs to open up landscape to the average user and make a centralized service for remote desktop management
[05:38] <leftyfb-> so many people ask for something like remote desktop/gotomypc on ubuntui
[05:38] <newz2000> vino
[05:38] <Turl> leftyfb-: that exists and it's called vinagre/vino
[05:38] <leftyfb-> nope
[05:38] <Turl> leftyfb-: combine that with hamachi and it's done :)
[05:38] <leftyfb-> without opening ports
[05:38] <leftyfb-> transparent
[05:38] <Turl> well, I have to leave
[05:39] <leftyfb-> it wouldn't be that hard to implement....
[05:40] <leftyfb-> use a combination of reverse ssh with their centralized server and x11vnc on the target desktop
[05:40] <newz2000> see you later Turl
[05:40] <Turl> leftyfb-: hamachi does best ;)
[05:40] <leftyfb-> they could even make pgp keys easy by making them little ID cards with avatars
[05:40] <Turl> see you!
[05:42] <leftyfb-> hamachi is not user friendly
[05:44] <leftyfb-> welp, bedtime...
[05:44] <leftyfb-> thanks for considering the use of the domain name newz2000
[05:44] <newz2000> ;-) catch you later leftyfb-
[05:45] <leftyfb-> i hope it gets worked out... it'd raise the awareness of the site and give loCo's a centralized place to share marketing material


[11:41] <frank23> bob2: ok thanks
[11:41] <bob2> iceman: do you know what a chroot is?
[11:41] <dyno> does anyone tried to install a rme multiface card on a ubuntu system?
[11:41] <sunshine82> lsuactiafner my driver is linux nw802
[11:41] <jonny> oh sorry, I didnt realize that
[11:41] <dyno> someone*
[11:41] <iceman> bob2 i do not even know it it is properly install, or what it is ...
[11:42] <bob2> dyno: is it PCI? is there a driver in the mainline kernel?
[11:42] <cyphase> jonny, what's not possible?
[11:42] <bob2> iceman: so, every system has a root directory, /, right?
[11:42] <dyno> bob2, it's pcmcia
[11:42] <ciel> by
[11:42] <bob2> dyno: does it have a driver in the kernel?
[11:42] <iceman> bob2 i understand that ...
[11:42] <frank23> iceman: to install a chroot look in the forums for instruction. My suggestion for getting everything to work easily and painlessly is to use Ubuntu x86 however
[11:42] <jonny> quiet for 30 seconds is not possible
[11:42] <dyno> there's a driver in the kernel boabsta
[11:42] <dyno> there's a driver in the kernel bob2
[11:42] <dyno> bob2, (hdsp)
[11:43] <dyno> bob2, but it seems that i need to install alsatools
[11:43] <bob2> iceman: chroot = change root
[11:43] <bob2> iceman: it lets you alter what some processes consider / to be
[11:43] <dyno> with hdspmixer and hdsploader
[11:43] <jonny> 75%
[11:43] <iceman> frank23 where i am ready to toast a 64 bit install.
[11:43] <iceman> bob2 check my post in flood .
[11:43] <bob2> iceman: so, inside /chroot/ is a whole little system, and whe nyou run 'dchroot', you lock things inside it
[11:44] <bob2> iceman: so, you need to go into the chroot, and make /home/iceman.  in the chroot, not in your normal system
[11:44] <thrush> jonny: quick hit ctrl-c!
[11:44] <dyno> bob2, and it doesn't want to be installed ( make does not pass )
[11:44] <cyphase> jonny, don't
[11:44] <frank23> iceman: that's what I did. ran 64bit for 2 months and switched to 32 bit
[11:44] <cyphase> lol
[11:44] <iceman> bob2 tried to make
[11:44] <jonny> ok i wont
[11:44] <bob2> iceman: another option would be 'sudo mkdir /chroot/home/whatever ; sudo chown whatever /chroot/home/whatever'
[11:44] <cyphase> lol
[11:44] <jonny> wats it do
[11:44] <alumno> comand for delite directoris ? which is ?
[11:44] <bob2> alumno: rmdir
[11:44] <alumno> thanks
[11:44] <cyphase> jonny, it would have stopped your download
[11:44] <amitayk> bob2: I've finished should I restart my computer?
[11:45] <cyphase> you could have continued, but still..
[11:45] <frank23> alumno: or rm -r dir  will delete directory and everything inside
[11:45] <bob2> amitayk: no, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:45] <jonny> uhh that would stink
[11:45] <cyphase> very much so
[11:45] <jonny> IN yo face TRUSH!
[11:45] <bob2> iceman: do you know the difference between 'mkdir /home' and 'mkdir home'?
[11:45] <techsolo> hey this channel does really exists :-)
[11:45] <iceman> bob2 where i would rather risk letting a person with actual knowledge in via a ssh than my sit here and fight and fight this.. her i have been 1  day just trying ...
[11:45] <jonny> 81%
[11:45] <alumno> thanks for help ;) bob2 frank23
[11:46] <bob2> iceman: do you know the difference?
[11:46] <iceman> bob2 no .... /home would be a actual folder i think
[11:47] <bob2> iceman: no
[11:47] <bob2> iceman: /home = 'home' inside /
[11:47] <bob2> iceman: 'home' = 'home' in the current directory
[11:47] <bob2> iceman: sudo, 'cd /chroot ; mkdir home'
[11:47] <agt> Sound doesn't work in any of my games... I can play music, watch video with sound, hear gaim alerts... but nothing in games. Suggestions?
[11:47] <WinZ> Have anybody a .config of kernel 2.6.12 for DELL Latitude C600 or the same?
[11:47] <dyno> esd sucks
[11:47] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:/chroot$
[11:47] <iceman>   so i am in the chroot directory .. that i know
[11:48] <amitayk> bob2: Done. Still no mouse to work with...
[11:48] <dyno> no one know rme here...
[11:48] <dyno> and ubuntu too
[11:48] <bob2> iceman: now 'sudo mkdir home ; sudo mkdir home/iceman'
[11:48] <thrush> jonny: conciousness can affect objects on the quantum level jonny. ::concentrates on screwing up jonnys download::
[11:48] <bob2> dyno: sounds kidna obscure, what does google tell you?
[11:49] <bob2> WinZ: uh, the ubuntu kernel doesn't work?
[11:49] <dyno> nothing that's why i came here
[11:49] <srbaker> yo
[11:49] <WinZ> boabsta, it's working.. but it's default
[11:49] <iceman> bob2 ok that had no errors
[11:49] <WinZ> bob2, it's working.. but it's default
[11:49] <jonny> thrush, im 12 years old, i have no idea wat that means
[11:49] <srbaker> does ubuntu livecd have a tool that will either a) install a winxp mbr, or b) reset an admin password?
[11:49] <bob2> iceman: now dchroot in again
[11:49] <srbaker> i have to get the winxp mbr back on this laptop that i had ubuntu on.
[11:49] <bob2> srbaker: no
[11:49] <sunshine82> does anyone know how i can check to see if i have  a linux compatble webcam
[11:49] <thrush> its ok im 17 and i dont know what it means :)
[11:50] <digits> srbaker, winxp install cd has
[11:50] <srbaker> yes
[11:50] <jonny> well, wats it mean
[11:50] <srbaker> winxp install cd wants the administrator password
[11:50] <srbaker> my boss' laptop.  he doesn't know the admin passowrd either
[11:50] <digits> lol
[11:50] <iceman> bob2 see flood ? lost me
[11:50] <bob2> srbaker: you'll need to find that linux ntfs smashing boot disk
[11:50] <srbaker> damnit
[11:50] <KurtKraut> Windows has a local cache for DNS reverse. This cache is cleaned thru ipconfig /flushdns. This kind fo cache exists on Ubuntu ? How could I flush it ?
[11:50] <jonny> why did u want to screw up my download anyway?
[11:50] <joachim> what are the two funny bars below the list of names on xchat?
[11:50] <srbaker> apparently Knoppix STD does it
[11:51] <linux-noob> Hey, IS there a Boot flopy that will have driver for a USB cdrom so i can instll ubuntu on my laptop
[11:51] <bob2> KurtKraut: nscd may be caching it
[11:51] <titanium> "Please ensure that SSHD on localhost accepts password authentication."   Still no mouse to work with...
[11:52] <talios> anyone here got vmware working under breezy?  I just reconfigured it (thanks bob2, frank23) with gcc 3.4.x but no joy - seems some issues with the virtual network drivers and stuff....
[11:52] <KurtKraut> bob2, but it is not stantard on Ubuntu, is it ?
[11:53] <P8ntKid> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu hoary, but i want to upgrade to breezy without having to download another Cd. How do I do this?
[11:53] <thrush> jonny: evil is is evil does
[11:53] <bob2> KurtKraut: don't think so
[11:53] <bob2> KurtKraut: why do you think your rDNS resolution is being cached?
[11:53] <iceman> bob2 see #flood
[11:53] <bob2> talios: yes, you need the any2any patch
[11:53] <techsolo> sunshine82:  cat /dev/video
[11:53] <bob2> iceman: dude
[11:54] <bob2> iceman: read your prompt
[11:54] <bob2> iceman: you're in the chroot
[11:54] <bob2> iceman: you've won
[11:54] <pizux> yop
[11:54] <jonny> u r evil!
[11:54] <mohkohn> srbaker knoppix has a tool called install-mbr
[11:54] <KurtKraut> P8ntKid, you may try sudo dist-upgrade, but I strongly recommend you to burn a CD and install it on scrathc
[11:54] <pizux> try to install planeshuft and got that Checking if dialog program is installed...
[11:54] <pizux> Dialog program, which is required to use this software, cannot be found.
[11:54] <pizux> Please install this program before continuing Planeshift installation.
[11:54] <pizux> You may obtain it from your distribution FTP or install disk.
[11:54] <digits> srbaker, are you just out after resetting the mbr?
[11:54] <joachim> P8ntKid, yeah, upgrade from hoary has been a bit troublesome for a few people :(
[11:55] <pizux> what is dialog program
[11:55] <KurtKraut> P8ntKid, wrong command... try sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:55] <talios> bob2, cheers - just found a thread on ubutuforums about it - downloading the patch
[11:55] <sunshine82> techsolo it say no such device for /dev/video
[11:55] <bob2> P8ntKid: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[11:55] <mohkohn> if you are in a position to burn it then you just run the command sudo install-mbr /dev/hda
[11:55] <techsolo> ah then there aint a video device
[11:55] <slicslak> what cli util can i use to add/remove init.d scripts from run levels?
[11:55] <thrush> P8ntKid: change everything 'hoary' to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get upgrade, then distupgrade
[11:55] <techsolo> sunshine82:  ah then there aint a video device
[11:55] <P8ntKid> thrush, Are you sure that will work?
[11:56] <jonny> FINISHED DOWNLOAD!!!
[11:56] <thrush> P8ntKid: no.  good luck
[11:56] <bob2> slicslak: update-rc.d, or just rm/ln
[11:56] <thrush> :)
[11:56] <bob2> P8ntKid: read the wiki page I pointed oyu at, it explains all you need
[11:56] <jonny> now what?
[11:56] <slicslak> bob2, thanks
[11:56] <sunshine82> techsolo nah that the problem ive installed but it still say
[11:56] <iceman> bob2 now wheres wine then
[11:56] <bob2> iceman: what does 'file /bin/ls' print out, while you're in the chroot?
[11:56] <jonny> cyphas?
[11:56] <Zeep> bob2: Hello again ;
[11:56] <steigweis> no net-connection on breezy with pcmcia nic. (with debian sarge it worked) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=437873 pleasegive me a hint, in which direction to look for a solution.
[11:57] <techsolo> sunshine82: what are you trying to install?
[11:57] <thrush> P8ntKid: i recently upgraded that way not problems
[11:57] <bob2> Zeep: hi
[11:57] <sunshine82> techsolo after i install /dev/video i put in chmod 666
[11:57] <cyphase> hey jonny
[11:57] <bob2> iceman: you're getting ahead of yourself...run the command I gave you
[11:57] <cyphase> ok, do you have a blank cd?
[11:57] <iceman> bob2 in flood
[11:57] <titanium> Seveas: okay i've turned on logging in node.conf and after trying to connect with the windows nx client nothing is written to the log. it seems like the client isnt even ATTEMPTING to connect.
[11:57] <blair> another day, another bug
[11:57] <thrush> jonny: its corrupted
[11:57] <shandar> has anyone in here gotten lazarus to work?
[11:57] <sunshine82> techsolo well im tryin to set up my webcam i was trying to install gqcam to test it out but nothin seem to be workin outy
[11:57] <techsolo> sunshine82: /dev/video is what you get when you modprobe the driver for a television tuner card
[11:57] <iceman> bob2 a generic command to a knowing person .. great, but i am lost
[11:58] <cyphase> thrush, and how would you know
[11:58] <cyphase> lol
[11:58] <techsolo> sunshine82: and those bath habbits with chmod
[11:58] <Seveas> titanium, right... are you sure you put in the correct IP address and that there's no firewall in the way?
[11:58] <bob2> iceman: I don't even know what you're talking about
[11:58] <bob2> iceman: 'file /chroot/bin/ls' from outside the chroot, then
[11:58] <titanium> Seveas: it's on my local network, going through the router. <IP_ADDRESS> to ssh to it... <IP_ADDRESS> in nxclient chokes
[11:58] <sunshine82> techsolo could u help me fix it please
[11:58] <cyphase> jonny, you there?
[11:58] <iceman> bob2  file /bin/ls  ... command not found
[11:58] <techsolo> sunshine82: shure
[11:58] <sunshine82> techsolo i really dont know what to do
[11:58] <titanium> it has no monitor, kb, or mouse, and i'm controlling it entirely through ssh. so it's connected and such for sure
[11:58] <techsolo> sunshine82: what type of cam
[11:59] <blair> anyone know why hotplug startup locks up during boot if i'm booting clean but not if i'm booting after power-cycling to get past the locked up hotplug startup?
[11:59] <sunshine82> techsolo my webcam is ame cu-98a
[11:59] <bob2> iceman: 07:58:37           bob2 | iceman: 'file /chroot/bin/ls' from outside the chroot, then
[11:59] <slicslak> gentoo has a init.d/local for starting user added stuff, and conf.d.local.[start|stop]  for specifying said stuff.  does ubuntu/debian have something similar?
[11:59] <sunshine82> techsolo the driver is divio nw802
[11:59] <bob2> blair: sounds like dodge hardware
[11:59] <amitayk> bob2: I'm back in the GUI, but still without a working mouse. What can I do next?
[11:59] <blair> bob2: this hw is in phoenix
[11:59] <bob2> amitayk: sounds like you didn't configure X to use /dev/psaux
[11:59] <techsolo> sunshine82: and dit you modprobed that one
[11:59] <blair> dodge is up thataway a fair piece
[12:00] <jonny> sorry went to get some cd-rs what now?


[02:03] <RPG-Master> I'm not able to upgrade, I keep running into this error: http://imgur.com/cVjlEP2
[02:10] <pepee> RPG-Master, how are you running it?
[02:10] <roasted> hello friends
[02:10] <roasted> has anybody noticed on 14.04 that their bluetooth flat out isn't detected?
[02:10] <RPG-Master> pepee: I'm trying to upgrade from 13.10
[02:11] <pepee> RPG-Master, yeah, but how, from the console?
[02:12] <RPG-Master> oops
[02:13] <RPG-Master> But yeah, I'm sorry, I ran update-manager-d from the Alt+F2 menu
[02:14] <pepee> did you run it before?
[02:14] <RPG-Master> I've done it in the past, yeah
[02:15] <RPG-Master> But this is actually like my 3rd time trying from Alt+F4
[02:15] <RPG-Master> Alt+F2
[02:15] <pepee> I mean, this time, did you run it more than once?
[02:15] <RPG-Master> I tried 2 times about 4 days ago
[02:16] <RPG-Master> This is my first time today
[02:16] <pepee> can you run lsb_release from the console?
[02:16] <RPG-Master> "No LSB modules are available."
[02:17] <pepee> run:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:18] <RPG-Master> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[02:18] <RPG-Master> DISTRIB_RELEASE=13.10
[02:18] <RPG-Master> DISTRIB_CODENAME=saucy
[02:18] <RPG-Master> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 13.10"
[02:19] <pepee> well, perhaps you are using a non-official repo?
[02:19] <RPG-Master> ...You mean non-PPA repos?
[02:20] <RPG-Master> I thought the upgrade dialog mentioned temporarily disabling them?
[02:20] <pepee> yes, that's what the dialog says
[02:20] <pepee> I have no idea, though, I usually upgrade in a different way
[02:21] <RPG-Master> I'll try manually disabling all my unofficial repos.
[02:27] <RPG-Master> I think that did it. We'll see.
[02:32] <RPG-Master> Nope, didn't work. Ran into the same error.
[02:32] <RPG-Master> So, pepee, how do you upgrade?
[02:34] <pepee> either by modifying the repo lists directly (which I'm not sure is correct), or from the console, with do-release-upgrade
[02:34] <rww> it tends to work. it's not supported
[02:35] <RPG-Master> should I try do-release-upgrade?
[02:35] <rww> (do-release-upgrade (which is fully support) and its GUI equivalent are programmed to deal with any quirks that are known to be possible during the upgrade, hence them being recommended)
[02:35] <rww> RPG-Master: worth a try, yes
[02:35] <pepee> RPG-Master, make sure the system is in a consistent state
[02:35] <rww> s/support/supported/
[02:35] <pepee> otherwise, it may break some things :)
[02:36] <pepee> also, I think the best time to do an upgrade is at night, because usually there are not new packages
[02:36] <ggreer> I have a weird/scary problem with my thinkpad x140e running 14.04: if I close the lid, it sleeps. when I open the lid, I see my previous screen for a fraction of a second, then the lock screen shows up
[02:36] <pepee> night, american time...
[02:37] <ggreer> if I'm quick enough with the mouse, I can focus an existing app before the lock screen takes over
[02:37] <ggreer> and the instead of typing in the password field, I can type in the terminal or browser
[02:37] <ggreer> *then instead
[02:38] <ggreer> to work around this, I have to lock my computer before sleeping it
[02:39] <RPG-Master> do-release-upgrade just said "No new releases found". do I need to add an argument to it?
[02:39] <ggreer> once the lock screen is displayed, there seems to be no risk (unless maybe OOM-killer kills the lock screen some time later, but I haven't had that happen in a decade)
[02:39] <RPG-Master> nvm, added -d
[02:39] <ggreer> RPG-Master: do-release-upgrade -d probably
[02:39] <ggreer> :)
[02:40] <RPG-Master> :P
[02:40] <ggreer> may the force be with you and all that
[02:40] <ggreer> actually, 14.04 is surprisingly stable
[02:42] <RPG-Master> Yep, got the same error message, just this time in the terminal
[02:43] <ggreer> aw
[02:43] <ggreer> I read the backlog. I have no idea what the problem could be
[02:43] <RPG-Master> I'm seeing a lot of stuff like "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en_US"
[02:44] <RPG-Master> Err is a weird way of shortening Error?
[02:44] <rww> yes
[02:44] <ggreer> almost certainly
[02:44] <RPG-Master> Making sure
[02:44] <rww> translations tend to error out though because Reasons
[02:44] <rww> least they did last time I checked
[02:44] <rww> could try a different mirror though I guess
[02:45] <RPG-Master> Yeah, all the "Err" in the terminal involved translation related stuff
[02:46] <RPG-Master> So instead of "Main Server" I should just try "Server for United States"?
[03:02] <RPG-Master> nope, not working for me
[03:14] <RPG-Master> It would seem the "unsupported" method, as used by pepee, is working for me
[03:17] <rww> \o/
[03:36] <Blue1> where can I report a bug I found in 14.04?  I am in launchpad.net
[03:37] <nlsthzn> hi, installed latest daily of Xubuntu 14.04 yesterday and I don't have a volume indicator in the panel? Known issue or my bad luck?
[03:39] <Blue1> nlsthzn: I have it in 14.04 gnome
[03:39] <Blue1> not tried xubuntu
[03:39] <Blue1> cups is broken on my system here -- so I can't add a printer
[04:13] <nlsthzn> I have had volume indicator in Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Gnome also... only missing in Xubuntu
[04:14] <nlsthzn> volume control works with keyboard shortcuts
[06:51] <cesurasean1> thanks yall!
[07:06] <akiva-mobile> hey, should I report this as a bug
[07:07] <akiva-mobile> when switching accounts from akiva to guest, and then switching back from guest to akiva
[07:07] <akiva-mobile> when switching back, I have to enter my password to log back in
[07:07] <akiva-mobile> and then I have to enter my password again, to unlock the screen
[07:07] <akiva-mobile> that is really annoying.
[07:08] <akiva-mobile> Also, akiva is set to not have to unlock.
[10:03] <cyberalex4life> hello, I have a graffical bug in gufw (rules and listening frames are only big as one row each and also some drop down menu can't be seen correctly the first time I select them)
[10:04] <cyberalex4life> should I report it, or is it already known and taken care of. I haven't used much ubuntu daily builds so I don't realy know...
[10:07] <cyberalex4life> it looks kind of in here http://iloveubuntu.net/handy-firewall-app-gufw-1404-released-ubuntu-1404-support  but when there's activity it won't expand
[10:12] <CyborgCygnus> Sounds like you should report it in the launchpad, you'll get an answer eventually if it's already been reported. Since it's a daily build I'd recommend waiting & seeing what the next few days updates do. I'm currently on a xubuntu 14.04 daily & I've worked out even though I've been updating since the alpha, a current daily image (since xubuntu provides those) always run better than my updated from alpha version.
[10:13] <CyborgCygnus> cyberalex4life, I'm not sure of your level of experience with os's but if you're after something more usable & less buggy then perhaps wait for the stable release, unless you're wanting to be a bug reporter.
[10:17] <cyberalex4life> trusty is verry stable
[10:17] <cyberalex4life> actionally this is one of the few bugs it has
[10:18] <cyberalex4life> I've seen worse in 13.04 an 13.10
[10:28] <cyberalex4life> for me, reporting bugs is investing in the future stability and hardware compatibility of my system
[10:29] <akiva-mobile> Cmake is not letting me built unity8. I tried this on 13.10, and 14.04, and am getting the same error
[10:31] <akiva-mobile> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:64 (message):
[10:31] <akiva-mobile>   Could not determine plugin installation dir.
[10:32] <akiva-mobile> I have little experience with cmake; can anyone tell me if there is just a command I have to put in after ./build?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:07] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, morning
[12:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning akiva-mobile
[12:08] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, Developing anything interesting?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> not a dev, just an edgy user :)
[12:09] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, ever thought of developing?
[12:09] <akiva-mobile> and nice :)
[12:10] <BluesKaj> tester as well, too lazy to learn dev work and what it requires :)
[12:11] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, ha ha; fair enough. Its an annoying hurdle to say the least.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> afraid i couldn't commit to the time required aswell, since >i have other interests that keep me occupied
[12:13] <BluesKaj> akiva-mobile, and I'm old and grumpy and lose patience :)
[12:14] <akiva-mobile> BluesKaj, but you have a heart of gold.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> akiva-mobile, thanks, I sure hope so :)
[12:42] <antagomir> i recently made fresh installation of ubuntu 14.04 on my HP Folio 9470m laptop. It has worked fine. Last night I turned the laptop off (as every night). This morning I turned it on and logged in. After login, I have an empty screen. I can open the terminal with ctrl-alt-t as usual, and open browser etc from command line. But the desktop system does not seem to work. How to fix this?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> antagomir, try the virtual terminal/tty ctl+alt +F1-F6 , login , the update, upgrade and dist-upgrade, then reboot, see if that works for you.
[12:51] <antagomir> Ok, I will try now. Tnx.
[13:13] <antagomir> BluesKaj: did not help. Now I can't even get the terminal with ctrl+alt+t
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+F1 , antagomir , that will get you to a virtual terminal
[13:17] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+t, doesn't work amymore afaik
[13:17] <BluesKaj> anymore
[13:18] <k1l_> works here
[13:18] <antagomir> jes it also worked for me before this
[13:19] <antagomir> anyway, now i'm in virtual terminal. i tried with gdm and lightdm but neither works
[13:23] <BluesKaj> did you update and upgrade?
[13:25] <antagomir> yes
[13:25] <BluesKaj> run startx
[13:25] <BluesKaj> if it uses X
[13:26] <BluesKaj> KDE here , so no sure what's going on with ubuntu and mir
[13:28] <antagomir> does not help much
[13:28] <antagomir> i get to the desktop screen but it is still blanl
[13:28] <antagomir> blank
[13:29] <antagomir> now the ctrl+alt+t brings terminal again, thgough
[13:29] <k1l_> video card driver installed?
[13:29] <antagomir> no idea
[13:29] <k1l_> modul get build?
[13:29] <antagomir> but this worked still yesterday
[13:29] <antagomir> how to check?
[13:32] <vanadis> oh hai
[13:33] <vanadis> Is there anything problematic about installing the latest 14.04 beta now and upgrading it then to the final as soon as it arrives?
[13:36] <hyde> vanadis: it's beta
[13:36] <hyde> in other words, nobody really knows for sure if there's anything problematic
[13:37] <hyde> or can promise there probably will not be anything problematic
[13:41] <BluesKaj> vanadis, depends on the hardware and available drivers, no one can predict without that info how your install will run
[13:48] <antagomir> BluesKaj: shall i just do fresh reinstall since nothing works any more
[13:48] <antagomir> or well, works but not on the desktop
[14:11] <BluesKaj> antagomir, run this, we need to see what graphics chipset and driver you have, lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga
[14:14] <antagomir> ok tnx. the output is here: http://pastebin.com/PqjpEd60
[14:17] <antagomir> BluesKaj: see http://pastebin.com/PqjpEd60
[14:17] <BluesKaj> antagomir, same driver that I use, but I'm not sure why it behaves differently on ubuntu vs kubuntu
[14:18] <antagomir> hm
[14:18] <antagomir> everything worked fine untilt this morning
[14:18] <BluesKaj> antagomir, are you actually on 14.04?
[14:18] <antagomir> i think so, what you mean?
[14:19] <vanadis> kthx hyde / BluesKaj
[14:19] <antagomir> BluesKaj i think so, what you mean?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> antagomir, because the drivers behave differently
[14:22] <antagomir> BluesKaj at least the login screen mentions 14.04
[14:23] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:26] <antagomir> I tried to switch to UEFI Native mode in BIOS. Now after turning on I see the message: "No bootable image found. Notebook will shutdown.". I can't get to BIOS settings any more.
[14:26] <antagomir> Any idea how I can switch back from UEFI model
[14:28] <BluesKaj> f2 on , delete on some and f12 ands fn +f2 on others
[14:30] <BluesKaj> to get the uefibios
[14:31] <antagomir> tnx
[15:39] <mardan> hi is it possible to install Banshee 2.9.1?
[15:45] <ikonia> mardan: is it the repos ?
[15:47] <mardan> no
[15:48] <mardan> in repos is 2.6
[15:48] <mardan> 2.9.0+really2.6.2
[15:49] <mardan> and can't find any ppa for trusty
[15:49] <ikonia> ok, so there is your answer then
[15:50] <BluesKaj> mardan, try the dailies
[15:50] <mardan> BluesKaj, nothing for trusty
[15:52] <BluesKaj> nothing? how do you mean?
[15:53] <mardan> there is no daily build for 14.04
[15:53] <BluesKaj> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:54] <mardan> BluesKaj, there will be ver really2.6.2
[15:57]  * BluesKaj shrugs, mardan, if you're hung up on banshee, then my condolences
[15:57] <mardan> well rhytmbox can not play 3 songs
[15:58] <mardan> amarock is for kde
[15:58] <mardan> so that was best solution
[15:58] <mardan> (rhytmbox crash after 5 min)
[15:59] <BluesKaj> that's one of the reasons I use VLC for media playback and the KDE desktop
[16:00] <mardan> hm I am using vlc for video .... since I love foobar maybe I will tray to change
[16:01] <BluesKaj> too many probs with unity/gnome atm on 14.04 ...tried yesterday to see how it would run on my desktop pc ,....gave up after 3 hrs, just not my style either
[16:03] <mardan> and now you are using kubuntu?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> i have been for 10yrs, tried to like gnome, but it just didn't workout
[16:06] <BluesKaj> well almost 10 yrs :)
[16:11] <mardan> heheh me to .... but gnome/unity have something that make you love it after like one week .... kde have best app on other hand
[16:12] <mardan> btw that nautilus was change by "file" can I install any addons?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> correction ,almost 9yrs , I did start out with ubuntu 4.10, my memory ain't so good :)
[16:20] <mardan> hehehehe its like first love ;)
[16:53] <mathuin> I have two systems running 12.04.4 LTS.  I would like to run 14.04 LTS Beta 1 on those machines.  Should I wipe those machines before installing the beta, or is there a way to upgrade using apt-get?
[16:54] <ikonia> check the topic
[16:54] <ikonia> as I said
[16:54] <ikonia> and again, you never upgrade with apt-get as I told you in #ubuntu
[16:54] <mathuin> It's funny you say never upgrade with apt-get, when that's exactly how I've done it for the past two years within this LTS, and for years before.
[16:54] <ikonia> if you're doing a wipe of the disk that is not an upgrade, but a clean install, so you'll need install media for 14.04
[16:54] <ikonia> well, it's wrong
[16:55] <Pici> You need to use do-release-upgrade to upgrade your release.
[16:55] <Pici> not apt-get.
[16:55] <Pici> rather, use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to another release.
[16:55] <mathuin> Pici: can I use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to the beta, or do I need to wait for the release?
[16:55] <mathuin> I have a project with a shrinking deadline, so I can't wait for April 17.
[16:55] <ikonia> Pici: has update-manager been removed as a supported method ?
[16:56] <Pici> ikonia: it still should work.  I just do everything in the terminal these days I forget about the gui options.
[16:56] <Pici> mathuin: you should be able to, but you should check out the beta release notes in case there are any issues with that process.
[16:57] <mathuin> Pici: when looking at the 12.04 server guide I see that I can use the option -d to upgrade to a development version.  Is it reasonable to expect that that switch will do what I want?  I'm checking the release notes now.
[16:57] <ikonia> you can always "man do-release-upgrade"
[16:57] <ikonia> to verify the options are current
[16:58] <mathuin> The option says "latest release".  If that means Beta 1 I should be fine.
[16:58] <mathuin> (it says that in the manual page, which I had open)
[16:58] <ikonia> what does -d say in the man page ?
[16:59] <mathuin> "Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible".
[16:59] <ikonia> there we go then
[16:59] <mathuin> So _if_ this is the latest devel release then I'm fine, and that's what I was asking.
[16:59] <ikonia> what other dev release is there ?
[16:59] <Pici> it will prompt you before doing anything anyway
[17:00] <mathuin> ikonia: if I knew that, I wouldn't've asked.
[17:00] <ikonia> ok, well there isn't one
[17:00] <mathuin> Pici: okay, thanks.  I saw it download stuff with 'trusty' in the name, so at least I'm on the right release.
[17:05] <mathuin> http://pastebin.osuosl.org/6351/
[17:05] <mathuin> Thanks. :-)
[18:34] <sandGorgon> Is gnome 3.12 going to come to 14.04?
[18:58] <k1l_> !info gnome
[18:58] <k1l_> sandGorgon: ^
[20:09] <johnjohn101> I need help. i can't reset my ui size to 1 on the display screen
[20:10] <johnjohn101> there is NO way to scroll to that setting
[20:11] <johnjohn101> it's going to need to be fixed
[20:22] <Konstigt> Am reading that GTK+ gains Google Cloud Print support. Does that help me, running Trusty Tahr?
[20:24] <Konstigt> I have found this 3rd party app: http://www.niftiestsoftware.com/cups-cloud-print/
[20:24] <GZA-Genius> hey all, I am getting a crash report every time I reboot and log into account the first time, it seems that system is not picking up my CPU correctly dmesg is returning ([   17.200780] AVX2 or AES-NI instructions are not detected.) Also when I go into VMware Workstation and go to setup a VM if I pick 4cpu's it gives me a warning that I am choosing more cores than available. (That msg was never returned on 13.10) I know this in not VM sup
[20:24] <GZA-Genius> port I just bring that up because that data supports theory that something is up between sys>cpu. Any ideas/info would be greatly appreciated
[20:38] <k1l_> !info cinnamon
[20:58] <fibz_> anyone else experiencing this? when sending a remote shutdown command, the system requires some one to press the power button to complete shutdown
[21:00] <llutz> fibz_: have you tried using "poweroff" not shutdown command?
[21:01] <fibz_> nope
[21:03] <fibz_> yup that works, thanks llutz
[21:47] <TJ-> fibz_: Are you doing "shutdown -h ..." or "shutdown -P ..." ?
[21:48] <akiva-mobile> hey I am trying to build mir, and I am getting this error ./cross-compile-chroot.sh: line 83: popd: build-android-arm: invalid argument
[21:51] <akiva-mobile> nvm; just going to grab the mir-devel
[21:51] <trism> akiva-mobile: bug 1287600
[21:51] <trism> although apparently fixed
[21:51] <akiva-mobile> trism, Yah I thought I had the devel version, but apparently not


[15:00] <yano> lol, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/datagatekeeper/datagatekeeper-the-first-impenetrable-anti-hacking
[15:00] <jenni> [ DataGateKeeper: The FIRST Impenetrable Anti-Hacking Software by MyDataAngel.com, Inc. —Kickstarter ] - https://j.mp/24W19wk
[18:00] <dzho> "impenetrable" already brings the lulz
[18:03] <Unit193> dzho: I can do that.  Very good safe, no internet, put computer in and melt the key, put safe in vault, melt that key.  Granted, it's not technically impenetrable, but basically! :----D


[14:12] <hicham_> hi
[14:12] <hicham_> this is my firsr time i start this program
[14:12] <hicham_> what to do?


[16:10] <rexbron> hey
[16:11] <rexbron> TheMuso, persia: Any suggestions for handling out of source cmake builds in a debian package? Currently, I'm having to cd into a dir that I create and && a bunch of commands together
[16:13] <persia> You could write a build script, and then call that from debian/rules
[16:13] <persia> Or patch the upstream build system to allow it from a single call
[17:28] <astraljava> Ok this is mysterious; two maverick install discs fail at Select and install software.
[17:28] <astraljava> Anyone else seeing that?
[17:33] <holstein> astraljava: again...
[17:33] <holstein> D'oh
[17:33] <holstein> astraljava: theres a step in the installer after it fails
[17:34] <holstein> if the failing install computer is online
[17:34] <holstein> it makes a webserver that you can go and get the logs from
[17:34] <holstein> astraljava: can/did you do that and see what package/s borked it?
[17:34] <astraljava> holstein: Yeah I have installed it after that step, but the problem is that I've got 3G, which requires NetworkManager, which requires gdm...
[17:35] <holstein> AH
[17:35] <holstein> i saw other options for reporting, that was just the easiest for me since it was online
[17:35] <astraljava> Downloading the image again, and will trytomorrow.
[17:36] <holstein> :/
[17:36] <holstein> i should do that too
[17:36] <holstein> the 64bit ones
[17:37] <astraljava> That's what I'm trying, guess I should get the 32-bit as well. IT should be finished overnight. :)
[17:52] <astraljava> holstein: Sorry, I didn't read very well. I'll try that webserver thingie when I have installed the switch into the cabinet, so that I can network that machine locally.
[17:54] <persia> ScottL, You might want to join #ubuntu-devel : sistpoty is currently verifying release delegates for flavours.
[17:57] <astraljava> persia: Does he require someone's presence from the team? If Scott is unavailable, I can assist temporarily.
[17:57] <persia> He needs someone to be officially responsible for review of any uploads that affect the release.
[17:57] <persia> And I believe that is supposed to be one person.
[17:58] <persia> Anyway, ask ScottL, or for clarification in #ubuntu-release for more details (I have an overview of procedure, and presence in lots of channels, but don't know this bit so well)
[18:04] <ScottL> i accepted responsibility, although i don't necessairly expect too much to be exacted
[18:05] <astraljava> Okay, that's good. :)
[18:06] <persia> As long as you're following in -release, the few times something is raised, it ought be brought to your attention.
[18:06]  * persia is thinking about a WildMidi update that would include features, but doesn't think it's actually in the packageset
[18:13] <ScottL> i'll add -release to my settings so i stay in the channel all the time then
[18:33] <persia> You might want to idle in -devel also.  You may or may not be interested in all traffic there, but that channel gets used a lot for inter-flavour coordination.
[21:21] <ScottL> hi rlameiro
[21:21] <ScottL> persia, i already have -devel in my default channels :)
[21:22] <rlameiro> Hey ScottL
[21:22] <persia> #ubuntu-devel?
[21:22] <persia> I just didn't see you three :)
[21:22] <ScottL> rlameiro, have you had a chance to test the latest maverick ISO with the recently patched gnome-network-admin
[21:22] <rlameiro> persia: are you on the arm project?
[21:22] <ScottL> i'm really curious how it works for wifi users
[21:22] <persia> rlameiro, I'm in *lots* of IRC channels.  I do some ARM porting, and have some ARM machines.
[21:22] <rlameiro> ScottL: not yet, trying to figure out ubuntu on my arm single computer...
[21:23] <rlameiro> persia: FTW
[21:23] <rlameiro> persia: beagle board? or some clone?
[21:23] <ScottL> lol, everytime i see that i don't read that as "for the win" ;)
[21:23] <ScottL> it comes from being influence by nihilistic 80's metal :P
[21:24] <rlameiro> he he, right now i am converting a vmware vm to quemu bin, to convert it back to vbox....
[21:24] <rlameiro> my pc is on FIRE
[21:24] <persia> rlameiro, I've a beagle, a QNAP TS-119, a Kurobox, an n810, a netwalker, and an SLC-3100.  Only the Beagle can run maverick, so the rest aren't really running proper Ubuntu.  the beagle is my least favorite, but I wanted to keep things in shape for when I can get supported hardware.
[21:25] <rlameiro> persia: nice:D mine is a beagle clone, but a little better
[21:25] <persia> (oh, and both Sharp handhelds are dead in annoying ways)
[21:25] <rlameiro> its an IGEPv2 512Ram
[21:26] <rlameiro> well, yeah, ARMV7 its the way to go
[21:26] <persia> Any ideas on why lash doesn't build?  I'd like to get Studio running on arm.
[21:26] <rlameiro> the others are so slow...
[21:26] <rlameiro> persia: I am trying to do a FX box with it :D
[21:26] <persia> Then you and I have similar goals there :)
[21:26] <rlameiro> persia: FTW
[21:27] <rlameiro> I will use puredata as a processing backend
[21:27] <persia> Are there any missing packages that especially annoy you?  I'll put them higher on my list for porting time.
[21:27] <rlameiro> making the patches for effects
[21:27] <rlameiro> persia: for now i just want to put it making sound:D
[21:28] <rlameiro> but the pd libs in debian would be nice:D
[21:28] <persia> OK.  You probably want to chat with mpoirer: I know he's looking into the ASoC on the beagles, and would probably appreciate testers.  He's in -arm.
[21:28] <rlameiro> at least the new ones
[21:28] <persia> Getting new versions is tricky, with the archive frozen, but getting stuff built counts as fixing release-critical bugs :)
[21:28] <rlameiro> i am there, my problem is that i cant tar my rootfs inside the VM
[21:29] <persia> I booted one of the netbook images, and then uninstalled everything I didn't want, and installed stuff I wanted.  I recommend trying that.
[21:29] <persia> then you can just use apt-get to tune the system.
[21:29] <rlameiro> so i am porting my vm to virtual box, the igep guys give a vm with ubuntu in it, where you have all the toolchain to build kernels and rootfs for it
[21:30] <rlameiro> persia: problem with ubuntu images is that they need a first boot with DVI/hdmi
[21:30] <rlameiro> but i am running it headless UART/SSH
[21:30] <rlameiro> not good for me, so i need to build my own rootfs with rootstock
[21:31] <rlameiro> and also build the kernel with the preempt choice :D
[21:31] <persia> Then I'm not the right person :)  But ask in -arm, and I'm sure someone will help you.
[21:31] <persia> For -preempt for omap, talk to mpoirer
[21:31] <rlameiro> persia: have you tried some LCD on the beagle?
[21:32] <persia> No.  I connected DVI to get it set up, and run headless as a buildd.  It's lower-spec than most of my handhelds.
[21:32] <persia> But, really, better to talk about armel in -arm
[21:32] <persia> (unless you have studio-specific stuff, which I'm happy to discuss here)
[21:33] <rlameiro> persia: well, what is the best audio backen in arm?
[21:33] <rlameiro> oss or alsa?
[21:33] <rlameiro> this is inportant for studio :D
[21:33] <persia> ASoC, which implements the ALSA interface.
[21:34] <persia> Most of the vendors hire ASoC implementors during bringup.  I haven't heard of much vendor support for OSS in armel.
[21:34] <rlameiro> persia: do you think we could make some "distro" for arm devices?
[21:34] <persia> Sure.  If we port all the apps, we can do a studio image for ARM
[21:34] <persia> (assuming ScottL allows it, and we have testers)
[21:34] <rlameiro> well, some apps will not be nice in arm low end
[21:35] <rlameiro> we could make a stripdown version :D
[21:35] <persia> The seed tools allow one to select different applications on a per-architecture basis, or we could do a "effects box" image for amd64/armel as a controllable tone generator.
[21:36] <rlameiro> thats the idea
[21:36] <persia> Anyway, first get *your* machine working.  Once that works, we can figure out what belongs on that kind of target, and then we can ask if we can make an image.
[21:36] <rlameiro> I was thinking in designing an app in python/gtk/qt to select things
[21:36] <rlameiro> something on top of say, ... jackrack or something
[21:37] <rlameiro> my idea was to make pd booting at startup and then having a control patch that would launch effects via outside commands
[21:38] <rlameiro> eitheir via OSC or MIDI or even direct TCP/IP
[21:38] <persia> That, or make it just start everything by default somehow, and expect external MIDI/OSC controls
[21:38] <rlameiro> that will burn the processor :D
[21:39] <rlameiro> I even am reading DSP stuff to implement some of the pd Harder objects in the DSP
[21:39] <rlameiro> that would be awesome
[21:39] <rlameiro> FFT precessing without waiting
[21:39] <rlameiro> maybe there is something like that already
[21:39] <persia> I'm not sure.
[21:40] <rlameiro> if the fftw3 lib is ported for the dsp it will be awesome
[21:40]  * persia tends to focus on having things exist before optimising them
[21:40] <rlameiro> persia: anyway, first things first
[21:40] <persia> Anyway, time for food
[21:40] <rlameiro> i will also talk with the people of puredata
[21:41] <rlameiro> there is a lot of fuzz on the embedded and pd
[21:41] <rlameiro> it runs already on the iphone/ipod
[21:41] <rlameiro> and preliminary steps in android
[21:42] <persia> Please: let's get Ubuntu on that list :)
[21:42] <rlameiro> yeap
[21:42] <rlameiro> ubuntu-arm :D
[23:47] <ScottL> rlameiro, you still around?
[23:47] <ScottL> i've begun to update the FAQ page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/FAQ
[23:48] <ScottL> i not only restructured it a bit, but i also added a SoftwareSelection link where i'll start documenting reasons we include or exlude applications
[23:48] <ScottL> (i think we were talking about this before)
[23:48] <ScottL> i've been talking with holstein about it as well
[23:49] <ScottL> i encourage you to add whatever you think is appropriate
[23:49] <ScottL> .
[23:50] <ScottL> rlameiro, i would also encourage you to add a pure data workflow (and any other academia ones you can think of) to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
[23:50] <ScottL> i'll be adding to this page over the weekend as well
[23:51] <ScottL> rlameiro, i don't remember if i told you or not, but instead of being an "application factory" where we try to included everything available without any coherent association
[23:51] <ScottL> we will be focusing on tasks, specifically how to accomplish specific tasks
[23:52] <ScottL> if we develop a workflow to accomplish a task this will provide reason for an application's inclusion
[23:53] <ScottL> this will help us re-evaluate package selection in ubuntu studio
[23:53] <ScottL> defining a workflow will also provide a skeleton from which to develop documentation
[23:54] <ScottL> hopefully, this will yield a leaner, more focused and usable ubuntu studio
[23:54] <rlameiro> ok
[23:54] <rlameiro> it seems very good idea
[23:54] <ScottL> i don't claim credit for this idea, it was persia 's idea, i hope i am able to effect it though :)
[23:55] <ScottL> rather i hope i have the ability to effect it
[23:55] <ScottL> .
[23:56] <ScottL> persia, i should be adding a section to the FAQ listed above about why ISO's will continue to be made for ubuntu studio vs. ubuntu livecd & ppa installation
[23:57] <ScottL> i feel this would be important to document and continue to append to the list when new reasons are remembered, discovered, or developed
[23:57]  * persia doesn't deserve credit either: the idea of workflow-based usability was collaborative between both of us in combination to a general atmosphere of focus on usability in Ubuntu these days.
[23:58] <ScottL> troy has been preaching something akin to this, but in a less concise and palatable manner :P
[23:58] <persia> ScottL, That's a good idea, and it becomes even more important as we trend towards a single high-performance kernel for Studio and Desktop, because it's just not going to perform well running from CD or USB.
[23:59] <ScottL> usually troy is more "its crap and there's no reason for doing the things you are doing....arrgghhh!  no reason, NO REASON!"
[23:59] <ScottL> lol
[23:59] <persia> troy knows far too much about this, and so tends to use technical meanings of terms we often consider just words.  The concept of "audience" usually takes 20-30 thinkings about before one understands it doesn't mean "the people who see things" except when it does, for example.


[02:37] <mfisch> Is trusty open?
[02:38] <stgraber> no
[19:56] <Noskcaj> Is it safe to start merging stuff yet?
[21:09] <rbasak> Noskcaj: no: #ubuntu-release's topic says that the archive is still frozen (not yet opened)
[21:10] <Noskcaj> rbasak, ok.


[01:20] <Curly> Hello
[01:22] <Curly> Question! If I sudo apt-get update and upgrade, is that the same as installing the latest version of Xubuntu?
[01:23] <Curly> I don't have any problem with my install.
[01:23] <Curly> I don't think it would make a difference.
[01:24] <Curly> Not sure if there is a technicality.
[01:31] <Curly> The above question is subjective. Upgrading a ( version ) keeps up with the latest of that version but does it put it on the same  par  with the latest upgrade or version.
[01:36] <Curly> I am using IRSSI  IRC  Client
[01:40] <Curly> I guess everyone is watching CNN with the TRUMP dilema.
[01:40] <Curly> Covid-19 is getting to everyone.
[01:41] <Curly> According to the statistics, Covid is not going anywhere anytime soon.
[01:41] <Curly> Wow!
[01:42] <Curly> Empty channel
[01:43] <Curly> Have a nice day folks.
[16:13] <xu-help87w> I just upgraded from 18 to 20 xubuntu, and now the default font  is displaying in HEX i cannot find a solution to this issue
[16:14] <xu-help87w> all help is appreciated
[16:16] <xu-help87w> hello is there anyone here?
[16:22] <xu-help87w> please help I cannot even read on my system to fix the issue
[16:45] <gnrp> xu-help87w: What do you mean displaying in HEX?
[17:45] <xu-help28w> I am trying to download the Xubuntu  20.04 release for an operating systems class as ASU.   I keep getting a Failed - Network error during the download.   Any ideas how to correct this problem so that I can download it


[17:31] <mup> PR operator#500 opened: Don't leave a 'testing.sock' in the working dir <Created by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/500>


[07:31] <ara> good morning all
[10:40]  * ara takes a break
[14:06]  * davmor2 bets that fader is sciving off with the excuse of flying home
[14:07] <davmor2> cr3, ara: How's things
[14:08] <ara> hey davmor2
[14:08] <cr3> davmor2: I had a nice weekend, finished a blog post about performance testing in postgresql. how goes it for you?
[14:09] <ara> davmor2, weekend was great, now planning alpha 2 testing, of course
[14:09] <ara> cr3, are you in planet ubuntu?
[14:10] <cr3> ara: nah, I don't think it's sufficiently relevant to ubuntu for posting it there
[14:11] <ara> cr3, what's the url?
[14:11] <cr3> ara: cr3bits.wordpress.com
[14:12] <davmor2> cr3: Have you ever read some of the stuff on planet ubuntu I think yours is closer to relevant than most ;)
[14:13] <ara> nice!
[14:13]  * ara adds cr3bits to her reading list
[14:14] <cr3> davmor2: in that case, I'd rather not add to the noise
[16:05] <cyphermox> davmor2: I'm trying to make screenshots of wubi for a blog post, running it in VirtualBox... what is supposed to happen during the "completing the installation" phase? All I'm getting is a blinking cursor in the top left corner of the screen
[16:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: You have the windows part of the install,  this basically transfers the an image of the cd onto the harddrive and sets up the virtual drives.  Then you have the Linux side of the install this should function in the same manner as a normal ubiquity install minus the setup questions.
[16:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: it should then reboot.  By the sound of it your hitting an old non-reboot bug
[16:09] <cr3> Hankyone: welcome aboard, matey!
[16:09] <davmor2> I could be wrong though as I'm not 100% sure where you are at with the install
[16:09] <cyphermox> davmor2: I don't think so, this is right after grub for the first time after the windows part of the install
[16:10] <cyphermox> e.g. I tried Normal, Verbose, ACPI Workarounds, but no love.
[16:10] <Hankyone> thanks marc
[16:10] <davmor2> cyphermox: ah in that case report it to ev on #ubuntu-installer and he'll let you know any info he needs
[16:10] <cyphermox> alright
[16:10] <cyphermox> thanks davmor2
[16:11] <davmor2> cyphermox: at that point it should fire up an automated ubiquity install which it isn't
[16:11] <cyphermox> I'm hoping it's just because I'm running it in Virtual Box
[16:12] <cyphermox> davmor2: actually, I'll try a couple more things before reporting it as a bug, in case my setup is just wrong
[16:12] <davmor2> cyphermox: If I get a minute I'll have a look on HW but time is short at the minute
[20:36] <GrueMaster> Does anyone here know if I need to request a new testcase for http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ to add testing of preinstalled SD images?  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/M/ARMPreinstalledSDCardImages for more background on the new images being pushed for A2 and beyond.
[20:37] <GrueMaster> This is specific to Ubuntu Arm images for Maverick.


[22:41] <jelmer> python3-keyring is quite annoying, unless you disable recommends it pulls in most of GNOME on headless machines :-/


[17:03] <paissad> hello guys, i would like to know how to create a launch icon in Unity for a specific application ?
[17:03] <paissad> thanks in advance
[17:03] <paissad> i'm packaging an application, and i would like to add a quicklink to Unity
[17:07] <paissad> is there  a tutorial for that ?
[17:13] <paissad> quicklist*
[22:06] <fsmu> hi. how can I contact with a project mentor?
[22:06] <fsmu> I need some help to get started for contribution


[01:37] <PCLine__> Evening everyone.
[01:37] <Unit193> Howdy.
[01:38] <PCLine__> Hey Unit193 - How you doing?
[01:38] <Unit193> I think I'm alive.
[01:39] <PCLine__> I am pretty sure you are alive!
[16:41] <yano> http://radio.wosu.org/post/ohio-secretary-state-releases-early-voting-numbers
[16:41] <jenni> [ Ohio Secretary Of State Releases Early Voting Numbers | WOSU Radio ] - https://j.mp/1R3JCpg
[22:30] <yano> http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/03/05/17-year-olds-shut-out-of-presidential-primary.html
[22:30] <jenni> [ 17-year-olds shut out of presidential primary | The Columbus Dispatch ] - https://j.mp/1OZ9pxE