[17:22] <chilversc> Anyone know if this patch set has a related Ubuntu bug<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:23] <chilversc> The first commit for that patch set is https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?id=b4fa966f03b7401ceacd4ffd7227197afb2b8376
[17:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Commit b4fa966 in kernel/git/stable/linux.git "mm, netfs, fscache: stop read optimisation when folio removed from pagecache"
[17:30] <tjaalton> it's not on any stable tree
[17:30] <tjaalton> only on 6.6 and up


[14:34] <mquin> someone with revert access on help.ubuntu.com may wish to take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto - seems to have had some malicious alterations in the last few days
[14:35] <ZachK_> mquin: i'll take a look
[14:36] <ZachK_> mquin: what malicious alterations do you see?
[14:36] <ZachK_> or what appears to be such alterations i should say
[14:37] <mquin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto?action=diff&rev2=28&rev1=27
[14:38] <mquin> looks like they're trying to direct the unwary to a few trollpits on another network
[14:38] <ZachK_> ok i'm going to have to grab that person....thanks for pointing that out
[14:39] <ZachK_> the launchpad id is invalid...go figure
[14:42] <mquin> lorez is one of freenode's staff, so that's likely impersonation
[14:42] <ZachK_> ok
[14:43] <cody-somerville> Interesting.
[14:44] <ZachK_> I hate that crap
[14:47] <cody-somerville> The person is Thomas Pynchon
[14:47] <ZachK_> ok we shall have to do something about him
[15:01] <sommer>  mdke:any problem with me updating the HTML version of the serverguide on h.u.c
[15:03] <LoRez> how would I go about claiming my name on launchpad?
[15:05] <LoRez> or maybe not launchpad, but help.ubuntu.com... (dunno if that uses launchpad)
[15:06] <LoRez> everything 'LoRez' has edited should probably be reverted as well.
[17:46] <jo-erlend> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/bazaar.html states that documentation comes bundled with Bazaar, and is installed by default in /usr/share/doc/bzr/html. But there is no such directory after installing it.
[18:40] <ZachK_> LoRez: how do we figure out what he's edited?
[18:40] <ZachK_> go about looking for it?
[18:40] <LoRez> it's your wiki, not mine :)


[14:20] <gilesc> Is Ubuntu-Mate supported officially under the Raspberry Pi4 as of yet? Web pages only mention up to Pi3B+
[15:01] <sixwheeledbeast> gilesc: still being worked on AFAIK
[15:19] <gilesc> thanks


[01:04] <sec_goat> Can any one help me with the Broadcom BCM4318 driver? Not sure where / how to get i t
[01:06] <sec_goat> trying here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177
[01:06] <sec_goat> but /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist doesnt seem to exist
[01:22] <diytto> how can i check what graphics card i have?
[01:45] <szczur> lspci | grep VGA
[01:46] <szczur> run this in terminal
[02:07]  * phillw good evening to the night shift :)
[02:08] <phillw> okies, seems like diytto only one still about....
[02:08] <diytto> Hmm?
[02:08] <diytto> :s
[02:09] <diytto> I just got a notification i was higlighted
[02:09] <diytto> Whatd i miss
[02:09] <phillw> you had a question regarding graphics card?
[02:09] <diytto> Yea i got it thiugh
[02:09] <diytto> Though*
[02:09] <diytto> :)
[02:09] <phillw> good, I'm just doing a quick look over before I head for bed :)
[02:09] <diytto> Cool
[02:10] <diytto> Night
[02:10] <diytto> :p
[08:34] <head_victim> I did an 11.10 - 11.04 this afternoon on my ancient laptop, other than the 5 or more prompts that I had to respond to (was trying to let it do it's thing while I was working elsewhere in the house and had to keep coming back to check it) it was flawless. Nice work.
[16:43] <pmatulis> how do i configure multiple keyboard layouts?
[17:31] <MK``> pmatulis: Do you mean like US, Japanese layouts or individual key layouts
[17:32] <pmatulis> MK``: multiple.  i need both 'us' and 'ca fr'
[17:32] <MK``> Do you have a keyboard input methods setting?
[17:33] <MK``> "Keyboard Input Methods" in the software center if you do not
[17:34] <pmatulis> MK``: you have s/c installed on lubuntu?
[17:34] <MK``> I am using Ubuntu with gnome, not lubuntu right now. I do not know what default programs it has
[18:03] <MK``> test, てすと、테스트, 特色他 ㄔㄍㄋㄔ, yeah, this one works fine pmatulis. Should have no trouble if you get it installed.
[18:04] <pmatulis> MK``: which one?
[18:04] <MK``> "Keyboard Input Methods" in the software center
[18:04] <MK``> lets you switch between layouts with defined shortcuts
[18:04] <pmatulis> MK``: can you run it and then do a 'ps ax | grep key' or somesuch
[18:05] <pmatulis> MK``: i want to find the command so i can find the package
[18:05] <pmatulis> MK``: doesn't s/c give you the package name?
[18:05] <MK``> Oh, that
[18:06] <MK``> "ibus" is the package name.
[18:06] <MK``> and ibus-gtk for the gui
[18:08] <MK``> ç á isn't that about all you need for french? :P
[18:09] <pmatulis> wow, ibus is not a dependency of ibus-gtk
[18:10] <MK``> haha
[18:45] <aalkex> Hello, I was using Lubuntu 10.10 for a long time without problems, but now I decided to install 11.04, it crashes A LOT! it just goes POOF and I can see the login screen again. Sometimes I can reproduce it, sometimes I can't. any way to solve it? it was working ok before in 10.10
[18:46] <bioterror> X crashes
[18:46] <bioterror> if it gets you to LXDM
[18:46] <bioterror> look for xorg's logs
[18:46] <aalkex> for example if I set Icon size to 24 pixels in lxpanel preferences it crashes
[18:46] <aalkex> where are these logs?
[18:47] <bioterror> /var/logs/
[18:50] <aalkex> sooo.. lets see..
[18:51] <MK``> Ouch
[18:53] <aalkex> so.. here I am
[18:55] <MK``> You cursed me aalkex. I just went to open a terminal with alt+f3, but accidentally hit fn+f3 and made my computer fall asleep
[18:56] <bioterror> ;)
[18:57] <alex__> bioterror, now it did it without any reason... uhh... so I look at the log, nothing wrong there
[18:58] <MK``> alex__ are you on a laptop?
[18:58] <alex__> nope
[18:58] <MK``> Ah.
[19:00] <alex__> lxdm.log
[19:00] <alex__> http://pastebin.com/JuYEHW00
[19:02] <MK``> Segfault. Hm
[19:02] <MK``> "Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information."
[19:02] <alex__> I have two monitors, can it be a problem?
[19:02] <MK``> Perhaps.
[19:04] <alex__> Xorg.0.log
[19:04] <alex__> http://pastebin.com/4BeF04Yr
[19:06] <alex__> uhh, the fact that it was working OK makes me angry :O
[19:07] <alex__> this is how I configure monitors
[19:07] <alex__> xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1600x900 --right-of DVI-0 --primary
[19:07] <alex__> xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1440x900 --left-of VGA-0
[19:08] <MK``> Only explicit error I can see there is [ 37565.987] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[19:08] <alex__> sometimes this script fails throwing me to login screen...
[19:09] <alex__> apt-get install fglrx should fix it, right?
[19:09] <MK``> it's ok to declare VGA-0 to be right of DVI-i which hasn't been initiated yet, right? (No idea)
[19:09] <MK``> I don;t know
[19:09] <alex__> why it hasn't been initiated?
[19:10] <alex__> well, it was working in 10.10
[19:10] <MK``> I mean, you are saying it's to the right of DVI-0 before the DVI-0 line. Again, I do not know, may be nothing
[19:10] <MK``> May also want to try in #xorg
[19:12] <alex__> well, kk, thanks
[19:12] <alex__> I'll let you know if I will find something that will fix it
[19:14] <MK``> ok
[19:14] <MK``> Upgrading to 11.04 gave me many issues as well. I'm on a laptop, and a kernel regression makes it use 40% more power
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> hey guys
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> does anyoone know the command to run the "customize look and feel" like this: http://images.maketecheasier.com/2011/02/lubuntu-install-icon-theme.png
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> nm got it, lxappearence
[23:30] <sec_goat> can some one help with my broadcom bcm4318 wireless card? tried  afew things nothing seems to work
[23:30] <sec_goat> trying this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177 but cannot seem to install ndiswrapper-utils
[23:31] <sec_goat> installed some b43xx from the synaptic package manager, that didn't work
[23:32] <sec_goat> also tried this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747147 and that didn;t work either


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[08:10] <mgz> morning
[08:16] <jelmer> hi mgz
[08:18] <mgz> jelmer: need a samba summary, what did you get up to?
[08:19] <mgz> know it was a holiday thing, but I'm curious :)
[08:20] <jelmer> it was mostly just a developer conference like any other :)
[08:21] <jelmer> met up with other folks again, listened to/gavee talks, drank beer, didn't do a lot of coding...
[08:24] <jelmer> how were things here?
[08:25] <mgz> generally confused, as normal
[09:34] <jelmer> mgz: do you perhaps have some time for a mumble?
[09:36] <mgz> I do, let me startx
[09:37] <jelmer> thanks!
[09:39] <jelmer> the audio gods appear to be in a bad mood today


[16:50] <dirk2> Actually, I'm looking into recent rootstock script. For 'karmic' it uses vmlinuz-2.6.31-rc3versatile1-cortex-a8 and -cpu cortex-a8. Is this only the configuration options for QEMU, or are the is the resulting rootfs compiled for A8, too? Or the other way around: Will a karmic rootfs created with rootstock run on ARM11, too?
[16:57] <ojn> ARM11 is ARMv6. Karmic is built for v6 + VFP, so as long as your specific ARM11 has VFP you should be good
[17:05] <kblin> ojn: so karmic won't work on the maxwell sheevaplug? that's an ARMv5
[17:12] <ojn> kblin: Correct, as far as I know.
[17:12] <kblin> oh well, mine is currently having fu being shipped around the world, I'll start worring as soon as it gets back here :)
[17:13] <armin76> s/maxwell/marvell
[17:14] <kblin> fun, as well
[17:14] <kblin> er, right
[17:22] <dirk2> ojn: Thanks! Will try it then :)
[17:31]  * kblin is feeling brave and remote-updates his home server's kernel
[17:33] <kblin> oh, crap, mkimage failed.. and of course I see that the minute after I hit reboot
[17:36] <kblin> that was so bound to happen
[17:47]  * kblin hugs the serial console :)


[12:23] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/Viper550
[01:21] <Viper550> Has anyone seen the new Usplash theme I made?


[15:58] <Ursinha> I will chair the meeting this time!
[15:59] <rbasak> \o/
[15:59]  * rbasak is safe for another week
[15:59] <m_3_> o/
[15:59] <mercsniper> o/
[15:59] <Ursinha> :)
[16:00] <Ursinha> sorry for being absent last weeks
[16:00] <Ursinha> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct  2 16:00:07 2012 UTC.  The chair is Ursinha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:00] <Ursinha> hello all
[16:00] <Ursinha> are you all here?
[16:00] <SpamapS> no
[16:00] <SpamapS> but keep going
[16:00] <Ursinha> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:00] <Ursinha> * jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
[16:01] <jamespage> Ursinha, golly -is that still on the list....
[16:01] <Ursinha> jamespage, hehe... this one involves me, right?
[16:01] <jamespage> yep
[16:01] <jamespage> and as we are sooo bad at communicating with each other...
[16:01] <Ursinha> [action] jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports
[16:01] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports
[16:01] <Ursinha> it's mine too now :)
[16:02] <Ursinha> we can catch up tomorrow, will try to find a spot for us to talk
[16:02] <Ursinha> #topic Quantal Development
[16:02] <Ursinha> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[16:02] <Ursinha> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:03] <Ursinha> I don't think this works?
[16:03] <Ursinha> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:03] <Ursinha> so, let's see
[16:04] <JoseeAntonioR> Ursinha: you won't get a reply for link, or for subtopic
[16:04] <Ursinha> that's different
[16:04] <Ursinha> thanks JoseeAntonioR
[16:04] <Ursinha> I'm looking at the bugs
[16:05] <Ursinha> so, there is bug 1017847
[16:06] <Ursinha> are we working on it for this cycle? it has the rls-q-incoming tag
[16:06] <Ursinha> serge isn't here
[16:06] <hallyn> sure i am
[16:06] <hallyn> last i tried i couldn't reproduce due to other failures - i should try again...
[16:06] <Ursinha> ah!
[16:06] <Ursinha> :)
[16:07] <Ursinha> hallyn, if we're not fixing, we might want to remove the tag or add another one to say we're not fixing this cycle
[16:07] <Ursinha> if is a valid issue, of course
[16:07] <hallyn> the issue definately was valid at one point
[16:08] <Ursinha> right..
[16:09] <hallyn> (added to my list)
[16:09] <Ursinha> we have two critical bugs, one is fix committed by smoser
[16:09] <Ursinha> other is critical, SpamapS set it to critical
[16:09] <Ursinha> bug 1047520
[16:09] <Ursinha> SpamapS, are you fixing that?
[16:10] <smoser> what is the one that is fix-committed by me ?
[16:10] <Ursinha> bug 1049177
[16:11] <Ursinha> the quantal task
[16:11] <Ursinha> for maas
[16:11] <smoser> roaksoax, should that be fix-released in maas ?
[16:12] <smoser> ie, do we have a maas package that uses its own dhcp server?
[16:12] <SpamapS> Ursinha: yes I'll take a look at that
[16:12] <roaksoax> smoser: i think we do, i haven't looked at the latest changes made to that package
[16:12] <roaksoax> (maas-dhcp(
[16:12] <Ursinha> thanks Sp4rKy
[16:12] <Ursinha> oops
[16:12] <Ursinha> SpamapS, even
[16:13] <Sp4rKy> :)
[16:13] <Ursinha> (sorry Sp4rKy)
[16:13] <smoser> Ursinha, well, either way, its under control
[16:13] <smoser> (it is fixed in daily ppa)
[16:13] <Ursinha> cool
[16:13] <Ursinha> do you have any issues you want to bring into attention?
[16:14] <SpamapS> bug 1047520 is actually already Fix Released
[16:14] <SpamapS> so, woot :)
[16:15] <Ursinha> cool :)
[16:15] <Ursinha> I found another critical bug: bug 1044632
[16:16] <Daviey> OT: /me chimes in that he is only partially here atm.
[16:16] <jimbaker> Ursinha, that's part of the 0.5.2 release of juju
[16:16] <Ursinha> jimbaker, I ask because it's targeted to the release, only wanted to know if that bug is going to make it or if it's going to be sru'd later
[16:17] <jimbaker> SpamapS is currently working on a micro release that will be in a sru
[16:17] <Ursinha> ah, right
[16:17] <jimbaker> actually bad phrased - 0.5.2 is that micro release, then to included in an upcoming sru
[16:18] <Ursinha> so we might want to target that to quantal-updates,right?
[16:18] <Daviey> SpamapS: any news on using ubuntu-cloud lxc template for local provider ?
[16:19] <jimbaker> Ursinha, that's a sru for precise. it should be part of the final for quantal
[16:19] <Ursinha> jimbaker, right, thanks for the info
[16:19] <Ursinha> I'll talk to people about bugs outside the meeting, otherwise this will take forever
[16:19] <Ursinha> will move on to blueprints
[16:19] <Ursinha> #subtopic Blueprints
[16:20] <Ursinha> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
[16:20] <Ursinha> the link that Daviey hates
[16:21] <Ursinha> that link is indeed not nice if you want to be objective :/
[16:22] <SpamapS> Daviey: yes, branch is proposed and in review today actually
[16:22] <SpamapS> jimbaker: format 2 does not exist in 0.5.x
[16:22] <SpamapS> jimbaker: that bug is only relevant in 0.6
[16:23] <SpamapS> Ursinha: we don't need to target that at quantal-updates. I have a final drop of Juju code planned for later this week.
[16:23] <Ursinha> SpamapS, awesome then
[16:23]  * SpamapS apologizes for lagging :-P
[16:23] <Ursinha> :)
[16:24] <Ursinha> that link is somehow impossible to follow up, the blueprints one, so please remember to update yours if haven't already
[16:24] <Ursinha> I'll move on
[16:24] <Ursinha> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:25] <Ursinha> * CFP deadlines
[16:25] <Ursinha>  ** SoCal Linux Expo (Deadline: Dec. 10) http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/cfp
[16:26] <Ursinha> any other events?
[16:27] <Ursinha> I'll take that as a no :)
[16:27] <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:27] <hggdh> hi
[16:27] <Ursinha> hi hggdh, any updates for us?
[16:28] <hggdh> just a question from me -- the iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO -- it seems you want us to run it
[16:28] <hggdh> we need to have the details on how to do it, can you please pass them over?
[16:29] <hggdh> and, additionally, I found an easy way to have the ISO dns-server tests to actually execute, I will be proposing a merge soon for USIT
[16:29] <hggdh> ..
[16:29] <Ursinha> who asked you that, hggdh?
[16:29] <hggdh> Ursinha: nobody asked us that, but then the server team did not run them on the Beta 2 tests
[16:30] <Ursinha> ah, oops
[16:30] <Ursinha> Daviey, who could provide the info to hggdh to run these tests?
[16:31] <jamespage> hggdh, I can pass you info on the iscsi tests
[16:31] <hggdh> oh, an additional point on MAAS
[16:32] <Ursinha> [action] jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO
[16:32] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO
[16:32] <hggdh> it now seems to support virsh, but there is no docs on how to fill in the fields on the "Add Node" screen
[16:32] <hggdh> and the "Doc" button on the page does not even talk about virsh...
[16:34] <Ursinha> roaksoax or smoser, ^^
[16:35] <roaksoax> i think we would need to check that with iupstream I've only worked with IPMI
[16:35] <roaksoax> but should be pretty straight forward
[16:36] <smoser> i've not tested current maas with virsh
[16:36] <smoser> but it is on the list of things i'd like to know how to do
[16:37] <Daviey> Ursinha: hggdh should grab me out of meeting :)
[16:38] <Ursinha> cool :)
[16:38] <Ursinha> is that enough information for you, hggdh?
[16:38] <hggdh> yes it is :-)
[16:38] <Ursinha> great :)
[16:39] <Ursinha> moving on, then
[16:39]  * hggdh prepares the net to grab Daviey
[16:39] <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:39] <Ursinha> hello smb
[16:39] <smb> I don't have much to report right now... I hope I am finally homing in on bug 1021471. Just compiling a new test kernel for that right now. Should be on people by the time this meeting ends...
[16:39] <smb> ..
[16:39] <SpamapS> smb: thanks for fighting to get that going. Its quite important for juju. :)
[16:39] <SpamapS> and really for LXC users
[16:40] <Daviey> +1
[16:40] <Ursinha> great, thanks smb
[16:40] <Ursinha> any questions for smb?
[16:41] <Ursinha> okay, moving on
[16:41] <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:41] <rbasak> Quantal on ARM is looking good. MAAS on ARM is almost done too - all the critical pieces are written now, appear to be working and are in various stages in the pipeline for landing in the next week.
[16:41] <rbasak> Any questions for me?
[16:42] <Ursinha> maybe not :)
[16:42] <Ursinha> thanks rbasak
[16:42] <Ursinha> #topic Open Discussion
[16:42] <Ursinha> discuss!
[16:43] <Ursinha> you are making me sad today, people
[16:43] <Ursinha> :)
[16:43] <zul> gee thanks
[16:43] <Ursinha> lol
[16:43] <Ursinha> no one is into discussing today :)
[16:43] <Ursinha> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:43] <Ursinha> sooo
[16:44] <SpamapS> Ursinha: thanks!!
[16:44] <SpamapS> oh damn I thought that was EOM
[16:44] <Ursinha> Next meeting will take place Oct 9th, same bat-channel
[16:44] <Ursinha> who's next in the line
[16:45] <Ursinha> if that is a line, so jimbaker is our next chair
[16:45] <Ursinha> jimbaker, is that ok for you?
[16:45] <Ursinha> that should do :P
[16:45] <Ursinha> #endmeeting
[16:45] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct  2 16:45:40 2012 UTC.
[16:45] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-02-16.00.moin.txt
[16:45] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-02-16.00.html
[16:45] <Ursinha> thanks people
[16:45] <SpamapS> FYI, jim did last week, so its from the other end
[16:46] <SpamapS> Ursinha: anyway, ^5 well done, thanks again
[16:46] <Ursinha> so next week is rbasak :)
[16:47] <rbasak> Ursinha: not jimbaker first?
[16:47]  * rbasak doesn't mind
[16:47] <rbasak> But knowing in advance is helpful
[16:47] <Ursinha> rbasak, SpamapS said he did it last week, so I have to fix that queue :/
[16:49] <jimbaker> Ursinha, rbasak, cool, yes, i chaired last week, so someone else is next :)
[16:49] <rbasak> ah yes
[16:49] <rbasak> OK, so me next week it is
[16:49] <zul> the more people who pile in front of me the better :)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <dhillon-v10> o/
[17:00] <sconklin> o/
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <ogasawara> o/
[17:00] <rtg> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <ppisati> Nothing new to report this week.
[17:01]  * smb runs in
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10.html
[17:01] <ogasawara> || apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 2 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 2 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-version-and-flavors || 2 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || desktop-q-xorg-lts-updates      || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> apw and I will review and close our remaining work items as we approach
[17:01] <ogasawara> final release.
[17:01] <ogasawara> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> Last week we uploaded the 3.5.0-16.[24,25] kernels.  With Quantal kernel
[17:02] <ogasawara> freeze approaching in 2 days, we will upload one final kernel before
[17:02] <ogasawara> freeze by EOD tomorrow, Wed Oct 3.  Following kernel freeze all patches
[17:02] <ogasawara> are subject to the SRU policy and only critical bug fixes will warrent
[17:02] <ogasawara> an upload. Non critical bug fixes and changes will be targetted to the
[17:02] <ogasawara> first Quantal SRU kernel.
[17:02] <ogasawara> As usual, all kernels will also get uploaded to the q-lts-backport [1]
[17:02] <ogasawara> PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We welcome
[17:02] <ogasawara> anyone to please install, test, and let us know your feedback.
[17:02] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:02] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Oct 4 - Kernel Freeze (2 days)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Oct 9 - Final Freeze (~1 week)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Oct 18 - 12.10 Final (~2 weeks)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:02] <sconklin> == 2012-10-02 (weekly) ==
[17:02] <sconklin> Currently we have 41 CVEs on our radar, with no CVEs added or retired this week.
[17:02] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:02] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:02] <sconklin> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:03] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (October 02):
[17:03] <henrix>  * Hardy - In Testing; 1 CVEs; (1 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (12 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Testing; 2 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (54 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Precise - In Verification; 1 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (234 commits)
[17:03] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:03] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:03] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:03] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:03] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:03] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:03] <henrix> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:03] <dhillon-v10> o/
[17:04] <jsalisbury> dhillon-v10, go ahead
[17:04] <dhillon-v10> hi all, okay so recently at KS there was a lot of discussion about module signing and I've been working on an approach i'd like to present and maybe get some feedback?
[17:05] <rtg> dhillon-v10, how is your approach different then david howell's ?
[17:05] <dhillon-v10> the idea is a hybrid between what chrome os does (I saw some of Kees's work) and what David Howell posted
[17:05] <dhillon-v10> rtg: just getting to t hat
[17:05] <dhillon-v10> *that
[17:05] <dhillon-v10> so specifically, I'm referring to patch 19 that in his patchset, that allows signatures to be added in the build process
[17:06] <rtg> dhillon-v10, so, given the complexity of module signing you'd likely be better off posting your ideas on teh kteam mailing list
[17:06] <dhillon-v10> rtg: do you think it's better to post there? alright then in that case i suppose i'm done here
[17:07] <rtg> dhillon-v10, we _are_ considering module signing, but just haven't fully thought it all through
[17:07] <sconklin> Yes, that also preserves the discussion and gives people in different time zones an ability to review it
[17:07] <rtg> ..
[17:08] <jsalisbury> Any other open discussion or questions?
[17:08] <dhillon-v10> rtg: right, the idea here is not to include all of David's signing stuff because it's very complicated, and I think I may have a simpler approach similar to how in the UEFI stuff, we are getting signed bootloaders IIRC
[17:08] <dhillon-v10> ..
[17:09] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:09] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:09] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct  2 17:09:02 2012 UTC.
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[17:09] <sconklin> thanks jsalisbury


 I am still looking for a solution to this. I tried re-installing Kleopatra to see if it would resolve. Muon not allow re-install. I then tried removal, but Muon was going to remove the whole pim suite. Not ideal. I do not want to re-set up Kmail, Kalendar and Akregator all over again. 🤷♂ (re @Anarchotaoist: "--- Comment #1 from Laurent Montel<EMAIL_ADDRESS>---
 it's not a bug against kleopatra but it needs to be report to Kubuntu I think.
 Regards" - so, where should I actually report this??)
 Have you tried accessing settings with Alsamixer in Konsole? : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/1c99b551/file_67305.jpg
 That question needs some clarification. Are you wanting to create an installation usb stick or install the OS as a persistent OS onto a usb stick? Also, are you attempting this on Kubuntu or Linux - or other OS? (re @IrcsomeBot: <jk> how to install on mem stick)
 I am still looking for a solution to this. I tried re-installing Kleopatra to see if it would resolve. Muon would not allow re-install. I then tried removal, but Muon was going to remove the whole pim suite. Not ideal. I do not want to re-set up Kmail, Kalendar and Akregator all over again. 🤷♂ (re @Anarchotaoist: "--- Comment #1 from Laurent Montel<EMAIL_ADDRESS>---
 it's not a bug against kleopatra but it needs to be report to Kubuntu I think.
 Regards" - so, where should I actually report this??)
 KDE connect has stopped showing media controls for my PC on my phone for some reason
 plugin is enabled on both ends but it just doesnt seem to work : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/6e665e42/file_67306.jpg
 Just empty space where it should be : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/085ab740/file_67307.jpg
[08:24] <jony> hi all
[08:26] <weedmic> cheers
[10:20] <skramer> It's a ity that there are still so many bugs in 22.04 after such a long time. Whatever I tried, it still does not remember window positions in a saved session or after reboot. It believes my headphones are the internal speakers and vice-versa. Kup says it would create the relevant folder for the backupup automatically, but of course it does not ...
[10:21] <skramer> And why on earth is firefox listed three times in the menu (1x Favourites + 2x Recently used)?
[10:21] <skramer> Btw. those problems do not exist on the machine I upgraded since 18.04
[10:24] <skramer> I actually would prefer saying with Kubuntu, but it would be great if the "newly integrated" issues and errors could be fixed again
[10:25] <weedmic> do you have an active issue atm - skramer?
[10:27] <skramer> weedmic: Yes, I would - for instance - like to have the windows stored and redrawn in same position as they were when I closed the session. Used to work in all earlier versions
[10:27] <weedmic> you can do that
[10:29] <weedmic> in the "frame" upper left corner right click on ?paper?>more>configure special * (dpending on what you want).  I do this for some things like runescape.  I want it in a specific location specific size, etc.  But you can also do it more general, like center windows and remember location (double checking this one).
[10:30] <weedmic> yep right under "center" - windows remember locations
[10:30] <weedmic> I <3 kde
[10:31] <skramer> weedmic: I'm using KDE since '95 or '96 but never found windows not be restored in their former position...
[10:32] <weedmic> I used linux since 95, but... i started w gnome - then I found kde and have been there since.  I do miss wanda by the clock though.  never found a way that works in kde for a little fish aquarium that gives advice.
[10:32] <skramer> weedmic: Was there any change between 20.04 and 22.04? Becaus, as I said, the machine I upgrade since 18.04 works as I would expect
[10:34] <skramer> weedmic: I'm also a bit surprised about these recent "issues" since I did not find them in an Endeavour VM I just set up recently
[10:41] <skramer> weedmic: On the other hand there is a regression regarding my NVidia GTX 1650 card: It does only 60 Hz now on freshly installed 22.04 while it was able to do 120 Hz previously...
[10:42] <weedmic> of course there were changes - there is a command to upgrade thought.  upgrade incrementally (hoping that is english) until you get to the one you want.  clone the system volumes just inc ase it doesn't work - so you can go back right away.
[10:43] <weedmic> personally, with opensuse,  I generally do the regular updates until they don't have any anymore, then build a new system from scratch.  w ubuntu, I keep doing the upgrade versions fromt he konsole until some programme doesn't work and can't be fixed.  then I build from scratch.  but I always clone  first.
[10:47] <skramer> weedmic: That's what usually I do as well. Was more difficult back than with Slackware and 0.99.14 Kernel :)
[10:48] <weedmic> true
[10:50] <skramer> weedmic: I used SuSe too since their 6.0 release & switched to Ubuntu from the 8.10 release on. Company laptop actually had Kubuntu 9.10  after I could choose the distro ;)
[10:51] <skramer> weedmic: So what I regret is that I can not help as much as I want because being just user through all those years.
[10:51] <weedmic> I use opensuse on everything except where I need apt - like at work.  but I always have kde:)
[10:52] <skramer> weedmic: Same :)
[10:52] <weedmic> i'm in both this and opensuse.
[10:53] <skramer> weedmic: I don't know why, but I did not have closer looks on Opensuse for a long time myself. Just keeping an eye watching Youtube vids
[10:55] <skramer> weedmic: Latest "project": I did install EndeavourOS in a VM. Just to have an idea how Arch-based distros work
[10:57] <skramer> weedmic: So far quite happy with it, but you mst be aware that there might be some issues to fix if you leave the PC for more tan afew days. But was no problem :))
[10:58] <weedmic> reminds me I need to watch the video on china's new os - just to see
[10:58] <weedmic> anyway, this is an help area - so we should be quieter before we get counselled.
[11:59] <user|AlhaanDev> i want to install my HP Laserjet 1080 Printer driver on Kubuntu 22,04 but its not working since HPLIP shows that pyqt4 is not supported on your distro or version
[12:01] <user|AlhaanDev> Now I am using Ubuntu 20.04 Focal Fossa to use the printer however I want it on Kubuntu since its desktop is amazing. Does it works with Kubuntu 20.04
[12:08] <weedmic> i think you are overcomplicating it.  The last printer (which was also hp) all I had to do was put in the ip and hplip figured out the rest itself.  are you sure you are picking the right ?method?
[12:10] <weedmic> application launcher>printers (configure your printer)>+ (add printer)>discovered printer (or if not listed - adppsocket/hp jetdirect and type in ip) - done
[12:11] <weedmic> oic, he left after 30 seconds - :(
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:20] <weedmic> wb
[21:10] <mmikowski> fwiw, hplip has gotten long in the tooth and is hardly desirable IMO. You can get a few extra features, but the bugs and complexity are hardly worth if for most users.
[22:29] <Guest70> hi
[22:29] <Guest70> ich habe eine problem mit kde coonect
[22:30] <Guest70> funktionirt nicht
[23:06] <mparillo> If you think there is a problem with KDE Connect, I suggest you open a Bug Report here: https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=kdeconnect
[23:07] <mparillo> But, if you are seeking information about how to use KDE Connect, you can describe your configuration and outline what you have done, and the results you see.
[23:07] <mparillo> Also, if you need a German-speaker, it is getting late in the day in Europe.


[08:53] <slyon> teward: Cou cannot do this via the "gateway4/6" shortcuts, but you should be able to define the routes manually, having different metrics, so that one is preferred over the other: https://netplan.io/reference/#routing
[12:50] <Hybrid512> o/
[12:50] <Hybrid512> Hi
[12:52] <Hybrid512> Question : I have a standalone hypervisor that I use as KVM host in a MaaS setup
[12:53] <Hybrid512> I have an issue with this machine, my VMs are deployed correctly but when I reboot them, sometimes, and randomly, some VMs lose their network
[12:54] <Hybrid512> my configuration is this on the host : bond0 -> br0 -> [eth inside VMs with vlan coming from a trunk port]
[12:55] <Hybrid512> I need to have my vlans flowing through the bond and the bridge to the VMs so that vlan configuration is done inside the VM and not at the hypervisor level
[12:55] <Hybrid512> I know it works but I suppose this vlan filtering is causing my issues so I was hoping someone could help me in fixing this or at least checking my netplan config :/
[12:57] <slyon> Hmm... do they lose the connection during reboot, or at runtime (after reboot)? Does it work if you do another reboot? Do you have any kind of logs about this?
[12:57] <slyon> Sure, I can have a look at your netplan config if you want to paste it somewhere.
[12:59] <Hybrid512> here is my conf : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/7fxxyz6h95/
[13:00] <Hybrid512> I don't know exactly when they lose the connection
[13:00] <Hybrid512> at boot time, when it works, I get the user prompt very fast, when it doesn't , boot startup hang for a (quite long) moment then I get the prompt but I lost my network then
[13:01] <Hybrid512> restarting the VM sometime fixes the issue
[13:01] <Hybrid512> it is really random, sometimes it work, sometimes it fails
[13:01] <Hybrid512> but, it NEVER fails when I deploy the VM (so at install time) with MaaS
[13:01] <Hybrid512> only when I reboot
[13:07] <slyon> I cannot spot any obvious problems with your network config... Maybe you could try to collect some more logs about the problem. I.e. reboot until it fails, then reboot again once and collect the logs from previous boot via: journalctl -b -1 -u systemd-networkd (networkd logs at first, to see what's going on with the networking)
[13:10] <Hybrid512> are there any recommendation towards vlan filtering on bridges ? I suspect the issue to be close to that
[13:10] <Hybrid512> regarding bridges options maybe like stp, fd, maxwait, ...
[13:10] <Hybrid512> I'm not top notch regarding network :/
[13:18] <Hybrid512> slyon : this one is the netplan config that is set by MaaS inside the VM : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Kf29qdZkVs/
[13:18] <Hybrid512> (if you spot something)
[13:23] <slyon> Hybrid512: the MAAS auto-generate netplan config should most probably be fine (I cannot spot any issue).. I'm not really sure about vlan filtering on bridges. I'm wondering if it might be a problem that the bridge has an IP and the VLANs on top have different IPs... why are you defining the VLANs on top of the bridge? Most examples I can find device VLANs directly on the bond (and define one bridge per VLAN on top, if
[13:23] <slyon> needed). So basically the other way around.
[13:24] <slyon> *define VLANs directly on top of the bond
[13:25] <Hybrid512> so your idea would be to give the host vlan IP at the bond level and not at the bridge level instead ?
[13:26] <Hybrid512> I can try that
[13:26] <slyon> Yeah, I'm not sure if this works. But it might be worth a try.
[13:27] <Hybrid512> okay, I'll try that and see if that makes anything better
[13:27] <Hybrid512> this is really tricky anyway and can lead to lots of troubles because it works "most of the time" ... pretty hard to debug
[13:28] <slyon> like having vlans.vlan1201.link: bond0 (instead of br0)
[13:28] <Hybrid512> if this is a bad practice, it should be forbidden (or at least discouraged) by netplan
[15:51] <Hybrid512> slyon: I tried what you proposed ... it didn't change anything :(
[15:52] <Hybrid512> and I don't see any valuable informations in the logs :(  :(
[16:00] <slyon> hm.. that's sad. I'm not really sure what I should recommend now :-/ maybe you could try asking in #maas if there are some better ways to debug this situation and get proper logs of what's going on?
[16:47] <Hybrid512> is it possible to configure macvlan with netplan ?