[06:55] <stormy|> sorry for the spam... didn't know it would paste them as new lines...
[06:55] <DBO> john64, i didnt see what he said, can you please point it out to me?  (in PM if possible)
[06:55] <jrib> stormy|: so useful... ok are you using i386 or amd64?
[06:55] <e3> Ignoring the off topic chatter, is there a way to disable mesa
[06:56] <john64> yes, you just can't seem to follow a guide
[06:56] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: in a console:  wget http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run
[06:57] <vtoart> Sorry...
[06:57] <john64> e3: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[06:57] <john64> you have have foobared your installation too much though
[06:57] <php-freak> hey guys how do I get all the plug ins for gimp?
[06:57] <ajopaul_> any ways to move grub from my mbr to the partition where ubuntu is installed, i have a dual boot and i want to have a 3rdparty bootloader on my mbr????any ways to move grub from my mbr to the partition where ubuntu is installed, i have a dual boot and i want to have a 3rdparty bootloader on my mbr????
[06:57] <stormy|> jrib: AMD64
[06:57] <DBO> e3, which version of mesa is glxinfo reporting?
[06:57] <php-freak> I want it to be powerful as photoshop if i can
[06:57] <DarkED> like i said before, i cannot boot into windows, so therefore, i cannot make a backup
[06:57] <php-freak> jrib: do you use gimp that much
[06:57] <john64> php-freak: i use synaptic
[06:57] <jrib> php-freak: I use it sometimes
[06:57] <john64> darked: Gparted supporst resizing ntfs
[06:57] <DarkED> i am replacing borked windows with ubuntu because i dont have a good winxp disc
[06:58] <jrib> stormy|: k, have you installed the binary drivers for your video card?
[06:58] <php-freak> I need something where i can create strong graphics
[06:58] <coz_> DarkED, hey guy
[06:58] <john64> DBO: did you get my message?
[06:58] <DarkED> and by good i dont mean pirated, i mean not scratched
[06:58] <stormy|> jrib: would the video be working without them?
[06:58] <DarkED> hey coz_
[06:58] <DBO> john64, no you need to identify first
[06:58] <jrib> stormy|: yes
[06:58] <DBO> john64, or join #ubuntu-ops and paste it there
[06:58] <john64> i have
[06:58] <john64> ok
[06:58] <stormy|> jrib: not that i know of
[06:58] <coz_> DarkED, if you use nero on windows to make a copy of the xpdisk it may work again
[06:58] <jrib> stormy|: k, that may help, what kind of card do you have?
[06:59] <DarkED> coz_ nope, its got a crack
[06:59] <coz_> DarkED, ok forget what I said ! :)
[06:59] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: its pulling it down now
[06:59] <stormy|> jrib: nVidia 6800
[06:59] <DarkED> coz_ ms wont send me another one without proof of purchase, which i dont have, because the xp disc i got is a system restoration disc argh
[07:00] <jrib> !nvidia | stormy|
[07:00] <ubotu> stormy|: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <ArrenLex> DarkED: All the more reason to run Linux!
[07:00] <DarkED> and Compaq... they told me "sorry, your laptop is too old to be covered under our Windows XP disc warranty, you'll have to buy a new disc"
[07:00] <john64> DarkED: gparted supports this
[07:00] <DiscoStu> is it true, that MergedFB only supports 2 screens of the same size?
[07:00] <john64> the live cd installer supports this as 99% of users use this functionality
[07:01] <DarkED> john64: i heard you, sorry dude, dont mean to be rude just have alot of stuff going on...
[07:01] <DarkED> john64: and thanks
[07:01] <john64> np
[07:01] <john64> DarkED: maybe you can download an OEM disc, with your legit key, everything should be honky-dory
[07:02] <ArrenLex> DarkED: what problems are you having? Just curious.
[07:02] <coz_> DarkED, which part of the world are you in/
[07:02] <arash> im making a makefile for a school assignment. how do i prevent anything being sent to standard output?
[07:02] <vtoart> hey... I'h a trable network... any body help?
[07:02] <jrib> arash: redirect it to /dev/null
[07:02] <DarkED> john64: i could but its too much trouble, i dont have an oem anyways, this laptop came with xp professional and i dont want any unneccessary cracks/hacks in my xp iso
[07:02] <arash> is that the only way?
[07:03] <DarkED> or slipstreams, those suck as well
[07:03] <arash> and will EVERY unix machine have /dev/hull?
[07:03] <john64> darked: i hear ya
[07:03] <john64> msdn is my saviour
[07:03] <DarkED> lol
[07:03] <coz_> DarkED, your nic registered?
[07:03] <DarkED> oooh yes
[07:03] <DarkED> the ubuntu disc is done
[07:03] <john64> is there anyway to stop all my partitions from showing up on the places menu?
[07:04] <ArrenLex> arash: Every POSIX-compliant OS will have /dev/null
[07:04] <john64> /dev/null is where all the fun is
[07:04] <Crell> 'ello.  Is there a way to restore a config file to its original package version?
[07:04] <ArrenLex> Crell: you could just reinstall the package.
[07:04] <arash> how do I prevent echo-ing? (Like echo off in a windows bat file)?
[07:05] <Crell> ArrenLex: You mean purge and install?  Hm.  I was hoping for something a bit less destructive.
[07:05] <vtoart> Wow... i know
[07:05] <ArrenLex> Crell: I mean apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[07:05] <arash> i don't want to see the command that is being entered
[07:05] <ArrenLex> Crell: this will recreate all the package's files in-place.
[07:05] <Crell> Ah.  Will that auto-overwrite all config files?
[07:06] <ArrenLex> Crell: it will replace all files in the package with default versions from the package.
[07:06] <Crell> OK.
[07:07] <stormy|> okay jrib, installing the drivers...
[07:07] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: almost done downloading
[07:07] <jrib> stormy|: ok hope it works.  I'm off to sleep
[07:08] <arash> i get permission denied to /dev/hull
[07:08] <w30> john64, if you take them out of fstab they won't  show up but they won't be mounted on boot up either.
[07:08] <ArrenLex> arash: what command are you trying to run?
[07:08] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: download now what?
[07:08] <w30> john64, backup fstab before you mess with it though.
[07:08] <kurisutofuaa> ls
[07:09] <arash> ArrenLex: i am compiling a java class javac -classpath $(PATHH) -Xlint $<
[07:09] <arash> the output gives me some warnings, which I don't want on the screen
[07:09] <ArrenLex> arash: and where is the /dev/null coming from?
[07:09] <stormy|> nn jrib
[07:09] <arash> well i put it to redirect standard output to that
[07:09] <ArrenLex> arash:  javac -classpath $(PATHH) -Xlint $< >> /dev/null
[07:10] <arash> >> ?
[07:10] <arash> i put >
[07:10] <ankur> Hi, I installed ubuntu 6.10 (edgy), but I cannot play sound as non-root user
[07:10] <ArrenLex> arash: shouldn't matter.
[07:10] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo $(editor_of_choice) /etc/X11/xorg.conf with these 3 lines:  Sections "Extensions"...Option "Composite" "Disable"...EndSection
[07:10] <arash> i get "/dev/null/ is a directory"
[07:10] <ArrenLex> arash: there is no last slash on that.
[07:11] <arash> drop the slash
[07:11] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: just throw it in at the bottom, doesn't really matter
[07:11] <ArrenLex> /dev/null
[07:11] <arash> its not there
[07:11] <ArrenLex> o_O
[07:11] <ArrenLex> arash: what's the output of "file /dev/null"
[07:11] <arash> no such file
[07:11] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: doing it now
[07:11] <ArrenLex> arash: you ARE running Linux, yes? o__O
[07:11] <arash> /dev/null: character special (1/3)
[07:12] <arash> sorry
[07:12] <ArrenLex> arash: that's different! Which is it?!
[07:12] <arash> /dev/null: character special (1/3)
[07:12] <Crell> OK, the config file was NOT overridden, but mysql is now starting anyway.
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Crell: take what you get :D
[07:12] <john64> w30: sorry i was afk, i want them to mount, i just don't want to see them on places, this never happened before
[07:12] <john64> seeing as one is /boot
[07:12] <ArrenLex> arash: what's the output of    echo "foobar" > /dev/null
[07:12] <Crell> Hey, I'm not complaining. :-)
[07:12] <michaelaoash> I solved the wireless problem I had several hours ago.
[07:12] <john64> awesome!
[07:13] <arash> nothing
[07:13] <ArrenLex> arash: Good. Now what's the output of your command with > /dev/null
[07:14] <michaelaoash> Here is the explanation:  I added a third-party repository (trevi) in order to get a new version of flashplayer.  The new repository added wpasupplicant, a wireless security application which somehow fouled up my connection to my home wireless network.  I discovered this by carefully searching /var/log/dpkg.log
[07:14] <dobsonj> pagefault, thanks a bunch, zsnes svn works like a charm :)
[07:14] <irnub> is this the right place to ask questions about ubuntu live cd?
[07:14] <ArrenLex> micaelaoash: why not download flashplayer from the macromedia beta site?
[07:14] <john64> likely yes
[07:14] <ArrenLex> irnub: ask away!
[07:15] <mordof> alright, so i just installed ubuntu server, and i was wondering how i would go about taking the dapper cd out of the repos?
[07:15] <michaelaoash> ArrenLex:  you bet I'll do that next time.  The repository approach sounded so easy.
[07:15] <arash> ArrenLex: it still outputs to the screen
[07:15] <irnub> ok :)  a realy noob question but here goes
[07:15] <ArrenLex> arash: what about 2> /dev/null
[07:15] <levander> Can you upgrade a kernel on a system that doesn't boot anymore, like by using the LiveCD?
[07:15] <ArrenLex> (i.e. with a 2> instead of >)
[07:15] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: Mod'ed now what.
[07:15] <irnub> how do i change permission on a folder that's owned by root in a root terminal window, i want to be able to write to it
[07:15] <ArrenLex> levander: if it doesn't boot anymore I think you have bigger problems than an outdated kernel.
[07:15] <mordof> nm i found it
[07:16] <arash> that worked
[07:16] <michaelaoash> the one scary part about the fix was that removing wpasupplicant required removing ubuntu-minimal (which then reinstalled ok, but it sounds scary to remove really fundamental-sounding pieces).
[07:16] <john64> irnub: chmod mode file
[07:16] <arash> why didn't > work?
[07:16] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo echo "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:16] <hackel_> How do I change the locale for a particular user in edgy? (to change UI language, etc.)
[07:16] <john64> where mode is either octal or characters
[07:16] <levander> ArrenLex: it's not booting because of the kernel version
[07:16] <ArrenLex> arash: > means "standard output". 2> means "error output"
[07:16] <john64> on the livecd you shouldn't need this
[07:16] <john64> 2> is aka standard error
[07:16] <arash> ohh LOL im so dumb
[07:16] <levander> ArrenLex: the upgrade process converted everything to udev, but for some reason my kernel didn't get upgraded
[07:16] <ArrenLex> arash: the compiler was printing those warnings to standard error rather than standard out
[07:16] <arash> yeah hehe thanks
[07:16] <arash> (you can tell im a newb)
[07:17] <john64> why don't you want to see compiler warnings?
[07:17] <ArrenLex> arash: many people on here are! Everyone has to start somewhere :)
[07:17] <arash> i am doing it for a school project.
[07:17] <michaelaoash> I guess the only lesson is to avoid third-party repositories and download directly, which is too bad because I like to keep things in the apt system.
[07:17] <irnub> john64 for some reason the live cd didn't mount my drive..i got it mounted with root terminal but i can't write to it now
[07:17] <arash> they want to run make on my class
[07:17] <arash> my class compiles and works fine
[07:17] <arash> so i don't want the warnings outputted
[07:17] <john64> irnub: right-o
[07:17] <ArrenLex> arash: why don't you write code that doesn't generate warnings? :)
[07:18] <john64> good one arrenlex
[07:18] <arash> because the 'warning' should not be a warning
[07:18] <hackel_> Can anyone tell me how to change the language in Edgy?
[07:18] <arash> I am using generics on a class
[07:18] <john64> what warning is it?
[07:18] <john64> oh
[07:18] <arash> i am using generics on JDOM
[07:18] <arash> which doesn't use generics
[07:19] <arash> using java 1.5
[07:19] <john64> oh
[07:19] <Crell> arash: Are you sure you have the right version?
[07:19] <Crell> That would do it.
[07:19] <arash> yes
[07:19] <john64> why do you need stderr surpressed?
[07:19] <arash> because it looks ugly
[07:19] <john64> any other reason?
[07:19] <arash> no
[07:20] <arash> well the warnings are bothering me
[07:20] <john64> that is very interesting
[07:20] <arash> i am doing something like this
[07:20] <Crell> When programming, always set your compiler/interpreter to "extra picky and pedantic" mode, and correct anything it even thinks about telling you.
[07:20] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: it gives me a permission denied
[07:20] <Crell> It WILL save you time in the long run with more robust code.
[07:20] <arash> List<Element> l = root.getChildren();
[07:20] <arash> it says we cannot expect root.getChildren() to return list
[07:20] <arash> i mean return Element
[07:21] <john64> *well
[07:21] <arash> even though root.getChildren() will ALWAYS return a Element
[07:21] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: you prefixed with sudo, right?
[07:21] <Crell> arash: Is it declared to have that as its return type?
[07:21] <john64> always,  what if you have a badalloc ;)
[07:21] <kurisutofuaa> yup
[07:21] <arash> yes
[07:21] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: yup
[07:21] <john64> for sure
[07:22] <Crell> Could there be some polymorphism involved somewhere?
[07:22] <Flannel> not to stifle the coding conversation, but can you guys move it to ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:22] <Err_> i'm trying to install the wpasupplicant in my /etc/default, but how do I modify it so I can input ENABLE=0 into it?
[07:22] <mhiku>  is there any other way to update kernel without restarting?
[07:22] <john64> no
[07:22] <Err_> i just went into etc/default and did a "touch wpasupplicant", but i don't know how to open it and add a line to it
[07:22] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: then sudo edit the file and add the entry manually if it isn't there
[07:23] <john64> mhiku: restarting is the process where a kernel is loaded
[07:23] <arash> let me look at the JDOM api again
[07:23] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: ko
[07:23] <john64> anyway, i am signing off for now, have a good night all!
[07:23] <ArrenLex> Night!
[07:24] <Err_> i'm following the rules on here: http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html, but i just can't figure out how i can make a wpasupplicant file and add a line to it
[07:24] <Crell> Err_: You need to use a command line text editor.  I suggest nano
[07:24] <Crell> nano /name/of/file
[07:24] <Err_> how should i do it?
[07:24] <arash> how do I prevent echoing in a make file?
[07:24] <arash> (echo off)
[07:24] <arash> sorta thing
[07:25] <Crell> Err_: With nano, as I just said.
[07:25] <Err_> Crell: I just tried to save it and it said permission denied.
[07:25] <Crell> arash: I think #Linux might be a better place for that level of question.
[07:25] <irnub> is chmod used to change folde permissions in ubuntu live cd?
[07:25] <Crell> You need to edit it as root/sudo.
[07:26] <Crell> Try sudo nano /path/to/file
[07:26] <Err_> that worked, thank you very much
[07:26] <Crell> Cheers.
[07:26] <Err_> how do you learn all these commands?
[07:26] <Err_> this is excrutiatingly hard for me
[07:26] <Viscid> does NetworkManager do static IPs yet?
[07:26] <arash> okay
[07:26] <arash> thanks all
[07:27] <repartad> do u have to format new portable drives?
[07:27] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: done what next?
[07:27] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential && sudo apt-get install fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:28] <Crell> repartad: Usually not, depending on the type of drive.
[07:28] <repartad> a seagate.. 100gb
[07:28] <irnub> can somebody give me and exact command that i can use in a root terminal to chance permission on a folder "/home/d" so i can write to it?
[07:29] <Crell> External USB drive?
[07:30] <Crell> irnub: Depends who "I" is on the system and who else you want to be able to read it.
[07:30] <vader1102> irnub, if I knew I would tell you
[07:30] <repartad> Crell, yea. I just tried to copy a 4 gig file to it. Said it didn't have enough space.
[07:30] <repartad> fresh out of the box
[07:31] <irnub> Crell: using ubuntu live cd at the moment and being able to write to it in the root terminal will work fine
[07:31] <arash> why is ubuntu so freaking awesome?
[07:32] <Crell> root can write to anything it damn well feels like.  That's what makes it root. :-)
[07:32] <mordify> Can some one help i have a file with the extention .chm that opens in windows but doesnt in ubuntu. what can i use
[07:32] <irnub> mmm i think i know what the problem is...the folder/partition is ntfs :/
[07:32] <arash> there are a couple of chm viewers
[07:32] <vader1102> that would be it irnub
[07:32] <arash> search chm in synaptic
[07:33] <mordify> cool thanx guys
[07:33] <irnub> Crell: is there a format command i can make it fat32 with?
[07:33] <Crell> repartad: Are you sure it's mounted?
[07:33] <Crell> Yes.  First, make absolutely certain it's not mounted. :-)
[07:33] <tx22> This isn't relevant, but what do you guys think? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44012056/
[07:34] <irnub> Crell: ok i will unmount it before i format...if you could give the command please :)
[07:34] <Crell> Then mkfs.vfat /dev/sdX1, where sdX1 is the device name you're trying to format.
[07:34] <Crell> Make sure you have the right one. :-)
[07:35] <Crell> Actually, correction.
[07:35] <ArrenLex> tx22: you're right, it's not relevant, although the art is amazing -- but #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place for it.
[07:35] <Crell> mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdX1
[07:35] <irnub> Crell: i know exactly which one it is :)  thanks alot
[07:35] <bitflip> man fltk-config
[07:35] <Crell> Pay it forward. :-)
[07:35] <tx22> ArrenLex:  thanks.. p.s. I just finished making it :)
[07:35] <ArrenLex> !seen Madpilot
[07:35] <ubotu> I last saw Madpilot (n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot) 6m 4s ago, quiting: "http://www.warbard.ca/temp/CthulhubuntuLogo.png"
[07:36] <Err_> i followed all the instructions at http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html, but when i go to my wireless manager in the top right and try to add a new connection, i don't get 'WPA Personal' in the drop down list
[07:36] <Crell> I'm afraid I know next to nothing about wireless.
[07:37] <Err_> where's a good place to read up on operating terminal and ubuntu commands?
[07:37] <irnub> Crell: that did the trick :)
[07:37] <ArrenLex> !bash | Err_
[07:37] <ubotu> Err_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:38] <Crell> Err_: You mean the command line?
[07:38] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: okay did that
[07:38] <Crell> What ArrenLex said. :-)
[07:38] <Err_> yesm
[07:38] <irnub> Crell yes the formal command...i can now write to the partition/folder in question
[07:39] <progek> Hi room, anyone know if I can type something in terminal to bring up the log out/restart/shutdown menu?
[07:39] <Crell> yay
[07:39] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: What next?
[07:39] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo ln -sf bash /bin/sh && bash ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy && sudo ln -sf dash /bin/sh
[07:40] <vader1102> progek, I allways use sudo /sbin/shutdown -h or r now. This will halt the system or reboot -h is halt -r is reboot
[07:40] <progek> thanks vader
[07:40] <ArrenLex> bitflip: WTF? All you need is "bash ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run" if it's a shell script.
[07:40] <MrKeuner> !help
[07:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:40] <vader1102> progek, np
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Or whatever that command was.
[07:40] <ArrenLex> bash ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy
[07:41] <bitflip> ArrenLex: sure about that...You might want to double check what ubuntu actually uses for /bin/sh
[07:41] <bitflip> ArrenLex: versus what the script actually expects
[07:42] <ArrenLex> bitflip: it doesn't matter what ubuntu uses for /bin/sh. If you execute something as "bash script.sh" it will run with bash, and if you run it with "ksh script.sh" it will run with ksh, etc, regardless of what the script expects or says.
[07:42] <ArrenLex> Or what /bin/sh is.
[07:42] <bitflip> ArrenLex: well, put this way - if you don't do it - the script dies horribly
[07:43] <ArrenLex> bitflip: Shouldn't.
[07:43] <bitflip> ArrenLex: I'm not arguing theory with you, only practice
[07:43] <msoul> I have had this problem before and forgot how to fix it, trying to install ubuntu on my toshiba and I can't see anything except blackscreen
[07:43] <bitflip> ArrenLex: read as, I agree with you but it is what it is
[07:43] <slew> hi, browsing seems really slow, im using swiftfox and it seems really laggy. is there anything i can do?
[07:43] <msoul> any idea how to fix this_
[07:44] <Aura> sadasd
[07:44] <vader1102> is there any old server people in here? I am trying to get any version of Linux on my old p1 200 server, the problem I am getting is any newer kernel I get a kernel panic after it finds the compressed image on the disk and then it is froze.... any thoughts would be great. I have used the following commands to try and move it passed this but nothing has helped. noapic noalpic noagp pci-bios
[07:44] <vader1102> dual p1 200 sorry
[07:44] <ArrenLex> vader1102: for really old computers, try Damn Small Linux, Feather Linux, Vector Linux... one of the light distros.
[07:45] <vader1102> ArrenLex, ok, will they see the RAID card?
[07:45] <DARKGuy> I'm trying to set up apache on my local comp for sharing files to friends when they can't download from somewhere and such. How would I go into making apache2 give public access to the outside world?
[07:45] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: Error: need root permission or the 'fakeroot' package installed
[07:45] <msoul> how can I re-configure X?
[07:46] <DARKGuy> msoul: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:46] <msoul> darkguy thanks, I will try and see since all I got now is console mode
[07:46] <DARKGuy> msoul: Ah, good luck there :)
[07:46] <ArrenLex> vader1102: Hell if I know.
[07:47] <vader1102> ArrenLex, oki thanx
[07:47] <ArrenLex> kurisutofuaa: sudo ln -sf bash /bin/sh && sudo bash ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy && sudo ln -sf dash /bin/sh
[07:47] <ArrenLex> bitflip: you're right, it DOES crash. That's so weird.
[07:47] <bitflip> ArrenLex: insane, isn't it
[07:48] <ArrenLex> bitflip: /bin/sh must be HARDCODED into the package or something...
[07:48] <bitflip> ArrenLex: bingo - beauty of closed source
[07:48] <DARKGuy> Nobody knows?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> bitflip: I have long been of the opinion that ATI's Linux drivers were coded by a blindfolded intern typing into notepad as part of a hazing process, and released as a Linux driver as soon as it compiled.
[07:48] <slew> hi, browsing seems really slow, im using swiftfox and it seems really laggy. is there anything i can do?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> slew: Is your computer slow?
[07:49] <bitflip> ArrenLex: now that is funny
[07:49] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: still giving me this [Error: need root permission or the 'fakeroot' package installed]  when I run that
[07:49] <slew> ArrenLex, no, not really. 2.31 ghz celey / 512 m ram
[07:49] <MrKeuner> hi, how safe is to enable proposed updates and backport updates in edgy?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> kurisutofuaa: sudo ln -sf bash /bin/sh && sudo bash ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy && sudo ln -sf dash /bin/sh
[07:50] <ArrenLex> slew: is anything else slow?
[07:50] <slew> ArrenLex, so far, no
[07:50] <MrKeuner> will I be in SID mode if I enable proposed updates and backport updates in edgy?
[07:50] <ArrenLex> slew: why are we using swiftfox? Do we like restrictive licenses so much? You shouldn't notice a difference on a modern machine.
[07:50] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: curios - sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[07:51] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: then rerun the command that is failing
[07:51] <slew> ArrenLex, well also thunderbird is fetching mail slowly now that i notice it
[07:51] <ArrenLex> bitflip: easier to just add sudo to the middle command in that chain.
[07:51] <Err_> how do i check what driver my network card has?
[07:53] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: Okay did that now it ran but a new error [make: dh_testdir: Command not found]  [make: *** [configure]  Error 127]
[07:54] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: I think the computer gods are mad at me lol one error after another
[07:55] <slew> ArrenLex, i got opera browser and its slow and now giving me 404s =[ any ideas?
[07:56] <Aura> help me
[07:56] <ArrenLex> slew: how good is your connection?
[07:56] <chalcedony> does anyone use Audacity sound editor? i'm having problems with it
[07:56] <Aura> where search mp3 for kubuntu or ubuntu
[07:56] <mordof> help! how do i disable the beeps in ubuntu server!
[07:56] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: I do. What problems?
[07:56] <DARKGuy> !mp3
[07:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:56] <mordof> it beeps loudly and people are asleep!
[07:56] <mordof> lol
[07:56] <slew> ArrenLex, as in speed? 1.5mbps
[07:56] <Crell> mordof: You get those too, huh?
[07:56] <mordof> Crell: yeah :S
[07:56] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo apt-get install dh-make then go for it again
[07:57] <Crell> I was wondering what it was.
[07:57] <druke> For some reason I the program in syste->admin wont change my changes to sessions, nor will it save them to user groups. Its there whenever i move about the program but as soon as i 'close' the changes are lost
[07:57] <mordof> it's lack of a sound card/sound drivers
[07:57] <mordof> so it uses that for system beeps
[07:57] <mordof> but i want to turn it off!! >.<
[07:57] <Crell> I have onboard sound on this motherboard, but I still don't need it to beep.
[07:57] <MrKeuner> is there a reason that I should not feel safe after turning on edgy backports and edgy-proposed?
[07:57] <Aura> where download mp3 for ubuntu or kubuntu
[07:58] <DARKGuy> !mp3 > Aura
[07:58] <Crell> MrKeuner: Because the InterWeb is a dangerous place no matter what you do.
[07:58] <bitflip> so sad, snowed in for two days right into the weekend and I bet I still don't get code written in time for Monday.
[07:58] <Aura> heeelp
[07:59] <Aura> mp3
[07:59] <ArrenLex> Aura: you were answered.
[07:59] <Aura> i am beginer in linux
[07:59] <druke> For some reason I the program in syste->admin wont change my changes to sessions, nor will it save them to user groups. Its there whenever i move about the program but as soon as i 'close' the changes are lost
[07:59] <druke> Aura type !mp3
[07:59] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: It worked now what next?
[07:59] <druke> !mp3
[07:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:59] <Aura> i don't play my mp3 format
[07:59] <Crell> Aura: Read those links.
[08:00] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: ls *.deb - does it only show 3 debs?
[08:00] <ArrenLex> /ignore Aura
[08:00] <druke> (sorry about that)
[08:00] <ArrenLex> Augh, I hate GAIM.
[08:00] <ArrenLex> *goes into the roomlist*
[08:00] <DARKGuy> How welcoming, huh
[08:00] <Crell> haha
[08:00] <druke> so anyone have my problem where they cant make changes to things like groups and sessions ?
[08:01] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: It shows 5
[08:01] <mboso> what apps do you guys use for podcasts, and video podcasts?
[08:01] <MrKeuner> will I be in still in development mode if I enable proposed updates and backport updates in edgy?
[08:01] <mboso> to subscribe/manage and transfer to your mp3player?
[08:02] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.31.5-1*.deb && sudo dpkg -i fglrx-kernel-source_8.31.5-1*.deb && sudo dpkg -i fglrx-control_8.31.5-1*.deb
[08:03] <jbinder> when you do mount and then you have to do -t <filesystem>, what would you type if the filesystem is fat32
[08:03] <Crell> vfat
[08:03] <ArrenLex> jbinder: vfat
[08:03] <jbinder> ah
[08:05] <Dial_tone> whois Dial_tone
[08:05] <ArrenLex> I give up. Who?
[08:05] <IdleOne> lmfao
[08:08] <abductee> fscking fastcgi
[08:08] <abductee> fscking ruby on rails.
[08:08] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: Okay on to the next step?
[08:08] <bitflip> such emotion!  passion in programming
[08:09] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo rm /usr/src/fglrx-kernel*.deb
[08:09] <ArrenLex> I've always wondered what they were thinking when they called the command "fsck".
[08:10] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: that just cleans up anything laying around before we proceed
[08:10] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: Okay
[08:11] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: next step
[08:12] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo module-assistant prepare && sudo module-assistant update && sudo module-assistant build fglrx && sudo module-assistant install fglrx && sudo depmod -a
[08:12] <druke> whats the chmod command to change the ownder of a folder?
[08:13] <ArrenLex> druke: chmod user:group folder/
[08:13] <druke> thanks
[08:13] <ArrenLex> druke: chown. xD
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Ouch
[08:13] <ArrenLex> chown user:group folder, druke
[08:13] <Rob-West> did you guys know if u install BitchX or irsii in Ubuntu u can go to a Text only screen and run it
[08:13] <ArrenLex> (sorry)
[08:13] <IdleOne> Rob-West, ?
[08:14] <Rob-West> yes
[08:15] <IdleOne> ok then
[08:15] <IdleOne> was that a question or a statement?
[08:17] <Rob-West> statement
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Why is it so quiet in here toni... oh, of course, only 850 people, that explains it.
[08:21] <bitflip> lol
[08:21] <mordof> can anyone point me to a link or maybe help me out to be able to ssh into my server?
[08:21] <bitflip> mordof: are you running sshd on the server?
[08:21] <Crell> mordof: Have you installed openssh?
[08:22] <mordof> erm.. which one is better?
[08:24] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: module-assistant, error message: You are not root and no replacement directory (the -u option) is specified. Unable to continue.
[08:24] <bitflip> mordof: openssh, my question is if you had the daemon running, but Crell makes more sense with the basics - do you have anything installed
[08:24] <mlinton> can someone help me with a grub problem and dual boot with XP?
[08:24] <Crell> The openssh package is what provides the ssh server daemon.
[08:25] <Crell> aptitude install openssh
[08:25] <Crell> That should be all you need to do.
[08:25] <ArrenLex> !someone | mlinton
[08:25] <mordof> bitflip: i don't really know where to start this is my first server install, and still being relatively new to linux, this entire no gui thing is proving difficult :P
[08:25] <ubotu> mlinton: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:25] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: did you fatfinger a password entry?  If not, break each command at the "&&" and tell me which one it died on
[08:25] <mordof> Crell: k
[08:25] <mlinton> My issue is that my grub installation doesn't boot XP now, it just reboots the computer.
[08:25] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: okay
[08:25] <mlinton> Can I post my menu.lst herE?
[08:25] <Crell> !pastebin
[08:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:25] <ArrenLex> mlinton: do you mean it ALWAYS reboots your computer, or it reboots your computer if you try to boot XP?
[08:26] <mlinton> only when I try to boot XP (hd0,0)
[08:26] <mlinton> but ubuntu boots find (hd0,1)
[08:26] <mlinton> fine
[08:26] <ArrenLex> Sure, pastebin it.
[08:27] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: okay got it to run
[08:28] <mlinton> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35068/plain/
[08:28] <mlinton> I was monkeying with my Sata drives to try to get OSX installated, and in the process broke my working dual boot
[08:29] <mlinton> I just have never seen when selecting a partition that should be bootable, the machine reboots
[08:29] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo aticonfig --initial && sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[08:30] <r_rehashed> hello everybody
[08:31] <mordof> alright.. openssh-server works great, heh
[08:32] <r_rehashed> I use intel's 946 chipset and want the drivers for it for ubuntu. intel hasn't written drivers for this chipset for linux as yet.
[08:32] <r_rehashed> any idea of Open Source drivers for this chipset?
[08:32] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: okay next please
[08:33] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: sudo shutdown -r now ...hold one arm up and the other pointing west while blinking 5 times and hope for the best
[08:33] <floating_> Why can't I play wmv files. I open it up in xgine, and it pops up a message "message from gxine engine" and no message is there, and gxine freezes :(
[08:33] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: lol
[08:33] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: If it doesn't you'll have to send me a mistress so that gf thinks I'm with mistress and mistress thinks I'm with gf leaving more time for computer to help you but right now I have to be going pretty quick
[08:34] <floating_> or I get audio but no video.
[08:34] <chobits_> meh
[08:34] <floating_> encrypted media stream detected
[08:35] <repartad> does one have to format a new portable hd?
[08:36] <ArrenLex> r_rehashed: a) Intel's drivers ARE open-source. b) http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm?iid=graphics+852main& Here's a complete list of chips they have drivers for. Are you sure it's not on there? c) What is the EXACT name of your chip? There is no "946".
[08:36] <TiG4-Laptop> ***--- I'm running Edgy Server, whenever I try to apt-get install ssh, it tries to look for the file on the edgy install cd, how can I make it download from the web instead? ---***
[08:36] <ArrenLex> r_rehashed: d) we ARE talking about graphics chips, right?
[08:36] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: IT WORKS
[08:36] <ArrenLex> TiG4-Laptop: go into /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the cd-rom line.
[08:36] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: :P
[08:36] <mordof> alright, i've got everything else set up.. any chance anyone knows off-hand how to set a static IP on a server install?
[08:37] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: Now we need to make a guide for this some time
[08:37] <TiG4-Laptop> ArrenLex, Lol, well that was easy. Thanks bud.
[08:38] <ArrenLex> TiG4-Laptop: easy is good. :)
[08:38] <TiG4-Laptop> ArrenLex, Indeed. :P
[08:38] <ArrenLex> uncomment -> comment, just realised
[08:38] <ArrenLex> But you understood.
[08:38] <bitflip> heh
[08:39] <mlinton> anyone helpout with the grub issue?
[08:40] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: curious - does your splash screen gunk up in black in white or is it in color without artifacts?
[08:41] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: some ati x86_64's won't display splash correctly...not a big deal to me but curious
[08:43] <Flannel> mlinton: is sdc1 (where the grub comment mentions windows to be) really 0,0? in your bios? or have you since moved/tweaked/etc your hardware
[08:43] <mlinton> let me see...
[08:43] <mlinton> how can I tell?
[08:44] <r_rehashed> ArrenLex: yeah I need the drivers for intel's integrated graphics card, which is the intel xtreme 3000
[08:44] <Flannel> mlinton: check your BIOS
[08:44] <mlinton> ok, I know what the bios states.  The disk I'm trying to boot from is the first sata disk on the nvidia array
[08:44] <r_rehashed> ArrenLex: the motherboard model no. is 946GZ-I, I guess
[08:44] <mlinton> so it's probably been changed since it was sdc
[08:45] <mlinton> probably sda now
[08:45] <mlinton> but how could the other grub options work and xp not.  If it was really borked wouldn't all of the boot options be broken?
[08:46] <ArrenLex> mlinton: Hmm. pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[08:46] <Flannel> mlinton: it'd be a windows specific issue, not a grub issue. try changing root to rootnoverify
[08:47] <Flannel> mlinton: well, it could be a grub issue as in not finding the windows drive, or whatnot.  But, it's not a global grub issue
[08:47] <mlinton> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35069/plain/
[08:47] <ArrenLex> *blink*
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Yeah, that's so beyond me.
[08:48] <mlinton> sdc1
[08:48] <Raskall> yay. Seems 64 bit Edgy works a lot better than 64 bit dapper.
[08:48] <mlinton> is the XP install disk
[08:48] <Flannel> mlinton: Windows is NOT the first partition.  You need 2,0 and then you'll need to use a pair of maps
[08:48] <mlinton> explain... please
[08:49] <r_rehashed> ArrenLex: thanks for the link. I found my way. :)
[08:49] <Flannel> map (hd0) (hd2) \n map (hd2) (hd0)
[08:49] <mlinton> in the menu.lst right?
[08:49] <ArrenLex> r_rehashed: glad I accidentally helped you! xD
[08:50] <Flannel> on your windows thing
[08:50] <mlinton> before or after the root command?
[08:51] <mlinton> Flannel: thanks btw - saving my bacon
[08:51] <bitflip> so 850+ people...Who uses vi to edit their ~/.emacs?
[08:52] <Flannel> mlinton: before the root, and I suppose that means you don't need to change the root line
[08:52] <mlinton> cool let me try it...
[08:53] <ArrenLex> bitflip: the same people who take diet soda and large fries. :)
[08:53] <bitflip> ArrenLex: excellent point!
[08:53] <FriedCPU> i could never get used to vi, nano all the way for me
[08:54] <ArrenLex> FriedCPU: ...FriedGeek?
[08:54] <FriedCPU> friedgeek, friedchicken, fried anything
[08:54] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek! ^__^
[08:55] <Cyrus25801> Could someone pls advise. I busy installing my app's for document viewing, media center, internet, dvdripping. Could some one please give me a list of app's that have worked well for them. thanx
[08:55] <FriedCPU> another reason i dont use vi, i just launched it, and it killed eterm and my pager
[08:55] <mlinton> Flannel: no dice error 11, unrecognized device
[08:56] <brendan__>  /server irc.freenode.net
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Cyrus25801: office suite: openoffice ; internet: firefox ; media: amarok
[08:56] <FriedCPU> does anybody want to tell him if he comes back, he was already on freenode?
[08:56] <ArrenLex> dvds: k3b
[08:56] <Elda|Zz> night all
[08:57] <bkudria> how can i rname a vfat volume? i was able to rename in mac os x - how do i do it under linux?
[08:57] <Cyrus25801> #
[08:57] <Cyrus25801>     /msg nickserv set email <your-email-address>
[08:57] <floating_> Hi. With gxine, I couldnt play these wmv files, but with vlc player I can play but picture is something weird random colors
[08:58] <FriedCPU> heres a thing i noticed in ubuntu and other distros derived from ubuntu, when rebooting or shutting down, i noticed it stops BitTorrent tracker. why is there a bt tracker loaded? lol
[08:58] <FriedCPU> or is that a dumb question that has been answered before
[08:58] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: It
[08:58] <floating_> kurisutofuaa: bitflip it ? me
[08:59] <r_rehashed> ArrenLex: it shows only windows versions again!
[08:59] <raghu206> how to establish connection between java and oracle in linux
[08:59] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: Splash  displays correctly
[09:00] <defrysk> bkudria, change the folder where it refers to in fstab and create the folder where fstab is going to refer it to , then sudo mount -a
[09:00] <floating_> kurisutofuaa: hmm, I donno how to do it, but I guess I find on web
[09:00] <bkudria> defrysk: well, mine is automounted in '/media'
[09:01] <bitflip> kurisutofuaa: that's interesting, more times than not it doesn't
[09:01] <repartad> 4gigs 6 minutes.
[09:01] <repartad> naiice
[09:01] <defrysk> bkudria, yes
[09:01] <bkudria> defrysk: it's not in /etc/fstab
[09:01] <bkudria> defrysk: it's a removable flash drive
[09:01] <kurisutofuaa> bitflip: So something good came out of it lol
[09:01] <repartad> whats shortcut for "terminal"
[09:01] <defrysk> bkudria, oooh
[09:01] <FriedCPU> anybody know  way to get some debug output from X when it fails to load, apart from what it spits at you in the tty lol
[09:01] <defrysk> not shure about removable drives bkudria sorry
[09:02] <bkudria> defrysk: and it shows up with the same name on other mac, linux and windows computers
[09:02] <bkudria> defrysk: ok, thanks
[09:02] <ArrenLex> FriedCPU: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:02] <SF100> hi is there someone who can help a complete noob
[09:02] <Cyrus25801> could some help i have amarok installed but dont see it in my programs list
[09:02] <FriedCPU> ta ArrenLex
[09:03] <repartad> What plays Video_TS
[09:03] <ArrenLex> repartad: you mean, VOB files? Lots of things -- mplayer, probably xine, probably vlc...
[09:03] <FriedCPU> vlc deffinatly
[09:03] <repartad> how do  yo uset vlc to do it?
[09:03] <FriedCPU> go to "open"
[09:04] <FriedCPU> ;/
[09:04] <FriedCPU> or you mean by default
[09:04] <eloquence_> sup everybody?
[09:04] <repartad> That doesn't work.
[09:04] <SF100> I am completely lost an need help with something totally basic, can someoen help me
[09:04] <r_rehashed> ArrenLex: ah got it! I can download software for the motherboard. I guess that will include drivers for the chipset as well
[09:04] <repartad> It wont setup the dvd from the folder if you load video.ts
[09:04] <ArrenLex> !ask | SF100
[09:04] <ubotu> SF100: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:05] <r_rehashed> ArrenLex: should I download the drivers for Debian 3.1?
[09:05] <SF100> ok...I just installed in a vmware virtual machine and want to install vmware tools but i cannot figure out what i am doing
[09:05] <ArrenLex> r_rehashed: if there's nothing closer, yes.
[09:06] <defrysk> repartad, xine dvd:/full/path/to/DVD/VIDEO_TS/
[09:06] <r_rehashed> ArrenLex: there's simply Linux.
[09:06] <defrysk> repartad, try that
[09:06] <bitflip> alrighty peepz - have fun
[09:06] <eloquence_> does anybody know how i can identify the manufacturer of my wireless lan card that is in my laptop? i have an hp dv8000t laptop running ubuntu and it just has my card listed as unknown vendor .. blah blah
[09:06] <repartad> what about for vlc defrysk?
[09:07] <defrysk> repartad, same goes for vlc probably but not sure
[09:07] <SF100> i see the mounted volume on my desk and can extract it to my desktop but i can do nothing from there
[09:07] <SF100> extract the tar i mean
[09:07] <floating_> how did you guys set up your ubuntu to play .wmv files ?
[09:07] <Cyrus25801> could some help i have amarok installed but dont see it in my programs list
[09:08] <Cyrus25801> could some help i have amarok installed but dont see it in my programs list
[09:08] <defrysk> !patience | Cyrus25801
[09:08] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:08] <FriedCPU> smart bot
[09:08] <FriedCPU> lol
[09:08] <repartad> dude I friggin love linux.
[09:09] <nekobaka> !root
[09:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:09] <repartad> Ill honestly say something gay here....
[09:09] <FriedCPU> repartad: i did till 5mins ago when i killed my xserver, and i cant see how :( lol
[09:09] <SF100> i want to love linux but i think im too dumb to
[09:09] <repartad> I was always afraid of Unix/Linux because of the interface I saw in Jurassic park
[09:09] <repartad> I thought it was 3d...
[09:09] <repartad> lol
[09:09] <FriedCPU> rofl
[09:09] <repartad> like in hackers as well
[09:09] <FriedCPU> the hackers stuff would be cool, JP was abit plain
[09:10] <repartad> it would take 30 minutes to navigate to gedit.
[09:10] <repartad> flying through the world
[09:10] <sindrum> Anyone having problems with JDK and netbeans install? I'v installed it last week and reinstalled ubuntu... Updated reinstalled jre and jdk and netbeans tells jdk is not installed?
[09:10] <DarkMageZ> offtopic is in #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[09:10] <repartad> FriedCPU: Yea dude It takes a little while to get setup
[09:10] <repartad> But I regret nothing
[09:10] <repartad> I hooked up ubuntu to my pc downstairs. Just to watch media on. and browse the net.
[09:10] <Raskall> Where do I set screensaver options in edgy? Cant seem to find the screensaver option on the System menu anywhere
[09:11] <r_rehashed> is ubuntu built on top debian 3.1?
[09:11] <DarkMageZ> Raskall, system > preferences
[09:11] <Raskall> DarkMageZ: it's not there
[09:11] <SF100> I am so lost with this and it seems like something so simple
[09:11] <eyequeue> Raskall, system > administration > preferences
[09:11] <ArrenLex> r_rehashed: ubuntu is derived from Debian Sid. 3.1 is, IIRC, sarge. So no, it's taken from a newer version.
[09:11] <sindrum> system/preferences/screen savers
[09:12] <repartad> where do i change pageflipping settings and etc for my videocard?
[09:12] <repartad> nvidia-settings? is that the only command.
[09:12] <DisabledDuck> is there any way to for Ubuntu to run at a different resolution?
[09:12] <repartad> Yea
[09:12] <repartad> Screen Resolution, under prefrences.
[09:12] <repartad> I think. or administration
[09:12] <r_rehashed> ArrenLex: so will the drivers for Debian 3.1 work fine on ubuntu?
[09:13] <Raskall> eyequeue: it's not there. would you mind checking the shortcut for me, so that I can start it from the command line?
[09:13] <defrysk> r_rehashed, unlikely
[09:13] <DarkMageZ> Raskall, gnome-screensaver-preferences
[09:14] <ArrenLex> r_rehashed: they might. They mightn't.
[09:14] <Raskall> DarkMageZ: weird. That doesn't exist on my computer
[09:14] <defrysk> preferences > screensaver
[09:14] <r_rehashed> so I guess I have to wait till intel makes Linux drivers for my chipset. :(
[09:14] <levander> Anybody got a link on how to reinstall grub from the LiveCD?
[09:15] <Raskall> gnome-screensaver package was not installed
[09:15] <Raskall> weird
[09:15] <SF100> I just installed ubuntu in a vmware virtual machine and now want to install vmware tools but i cannot figure out what i am doing i see the mounted volume on my desk and can extract it to my desktop but i can do nothing from there with the tar.
[09:15] <defrysk> r_rehashed, mybe the producer of the chipset should start making drivers for linux ;)
[09:15] <repartad> Raskall: you arent missing anything
[09:15] <repartad> ubuntus screensaver function is lacking.
[09:15] <eyequeue> Raskall, alt-f2    gnome-screensaver-preferences
[09:15] <repartad> You might as well just turn your monitor off.
[09:16] <Raskall> repartad: yes, I am missing the opportunity to disable GL screensavers
[09:16] <SF100> i cannot get to the install files from a terminal window or a root terminal window
[09:16] <repartad> there are NO options for any of the screensaers.
[09:16] <r_rehashed> I wanted to run xgl and since it needs h/w acceleration, I have to install the drivers for the graphics card
[09:16] <Raskall> repartad: I want just a black screen
[09:16] <r_rehashed> defrysk: right!
[09:17] <jmg> hey all
[09:17] <Raskall> ahh.. there. no more resource-sucking screensavers
[09:17] <jmg> i am having problems playing a movie
[09:17] <jmg> no sound
[09:17] <jmg> get this message on console
[09:17] <r_rehashed> stupid windoze!
[09:18] <jmg> ALSA lib pcm.c:2146:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM dmix:ICH5
[09:18] <jmg> read on the forums somebody solved it by reinstalling alsa but when i try it doesnt help
[09:19] <r_rehashed> can I use ndiswrapper to run windows drivers?
[09:20] <r_rehashed> ie, the windows drivers for my chipset?
[09:20] <First|Laptop> r_rehashed: yes
[09:21] <First|Laptop> !ndiswrapper
[09:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:21] <First|Laptop> hmm
[09:21] <repartad> oddly enough
[09:22] <repartad> I only get 250kbps on my ubuntu box
[09:22] <repartad> and 500+ on my winblowz box
[09:24] <SF100> should i just keep waiting or keep repeating my ? periodically?
[09:26] <eloquence_> what an ungrateful questioner u are
[09:27] <SF100> who?
[09:27] <sindrum> sf100 what are you looking to do?
[09:27] <SF100> I just installed ubuntu in a vmware virtual machine and now want to install vmware tools but i cannot figure out what i am doing i see the mounted volume on my desk and can extract it to my desktop but i can do nothing from there with the tar.
[09:27] <SF100> I am clueless on why I cant get to the files
[09:27] <Alzi2> Hey. How to get Ubuntu to be blazing fast on my AMD Athlon 2800+?
[09:28] <printk> SF100: you tar -xvf the files?  shrugs  Never done vmware install.  check the wiki?
[09:28] <sindrum> iv never used vmware... why are you using vmware anyway?
[09:28] <SF100> i followed what vmware said lemme check to see what i did...1 sec
[09:28] <eloquence_> sf100 u cant install the ubuntu to your hard drive?
[09:28] <SF100> sindrum: cuz im scared to run it dual boot :(
[09:29] <First|Laptop> uh
[09:29] <First|Laptop> why?
[09:29] <sindrum> i dual boot my (i have two hard disk...)seems to work fine
[09:29] <SF100> because Im a chicken, no other reason
[09:29] <First|Laptop> i've been dual booting windows and linux for years.
[09:29] <First|Laptop> no issues
[09:30] <ompaul> SF100, well you need to bite the free software bullet
[09:30] <mdious> SF100>you'll get there...and see that dual booting is no biggy :)
[09:30] <sindrum> and ubuntu is really easy to set up
[09:30] <First|Laptop> it holds your hand through the partitioning process
[09:30] <First|Laptop> and if you act now, ompaul will pat you on the back and whisper sweet nothings into your ear
[09:30] <Raskall> is adept a kde-only thing?
[09:30] <sindrum> id have to say to just back your important stuff and go for it
[09:31] <mdious> I've never used ubuntu to partition...I always reach for mandrake 10.1 cd1...diskdrake is nice for idiots like me who don't know what they are doing
[09:31] <Raskall> I am trying to clean up packages on my repeatedly dist-upgraded system
[09:31] <eloquence_> sf100
[09:31] <mdious> windows+linux are both easy to re-install so just try it when you have time to re-install one or the other (I doubt you will need to though)
[09:31] <SF100> Ill probably do it son, I just want to be comfortable with linux first and Im so not comfortable yet. I cant find files
[09:31] <eloquence_> i have a top of th eline hp laptop
[09:31] <eloquence_> and i was scared to dual boot
[09:31] <SF100> I cant do anything at all
[09:31] <eloquence_> but i installed
[09:31] <eloquence_> and now a week later its smooth sailing
[09:32] <eloquence_> first i was using qEMU emulator
[09:32] <Raskall> mdious: windows might be easy to reinstall, but it takes LONG time.
[09:32] <SF100> I extract the tar to the desktop and i cant get to the files from a terminal screen
[09:32] <eyequeue> Raskall, sudo apt-get install cruft
[09:32] <eloquence_> for virtual environment
[09:32] <eloquence_> but it sucks
[09:32] <SF100> i dont feel like ill be able to do anything to warrant a dual boot yet
[09:32] <eloquence_> dude
[09:32] <eyequeue> !info cruft
[09:32] <ubotu> cruft: Find any cruft built up on your system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-0.15 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 1096 kB
[09:32] <eloquence_> cant have ur cake and eat it too
[09:32] <eloquence_> install it
[09:32] <printk> SF100: no need to dual boot, just remove windows
[09:32] <Alzi2> Hey. How to get Ubuntu to be blazing fast on my AMD Athlon 2800+?
[09:33] <repartad> so I talked to Norm Mcdonald  today on the radio
[09:33] <eloquence_> no
[09:33] <Raskall> eloquence_: ahh.. :) thnx.
[09:33] <eloquence_> dont remove windows
[09:33] <sindrum> id have to say keep windows dual boot
[09:33] <eloquence_> dont listen to the die hard retards
[09:33] <eloquence_> every1 at some point needs windows
[09:33] <printk> uhrm
[09:33] <Alzi2> eloquence_, I agree.
[09:33] <printk> i haven't use windows in about 10 years
[09:33] <eloquence_> linux is awesome
[09:33] <eyequeue> eloquence_, blatantly false, many of us have never had it
[09:33] <eloquence_> but for gaming
[09:33] <mdious> Raskall>haven't installed it since forever, I do recall even just formatting a drive with NTFS takes forever hehe
[09:33] <SF100> ok but lets attack my question this way. I extract the files from the tar to the desktop but then I cant do anything
[09:33] <eloquence_> for some adobe products
[09:33] <repartad> I have another question.....
[09:33] <SF100> how do i even find them from a terminal window
[09:34] <repartad> how can I setup a command "blah" to run a command?
[09:34] <printk> SF100: where did you extract them to?
[09:34] <eloquence_> for your cousin who wants to play Barney's Gay Dinosaur Adventures.... u will need windows
[09:34] <Raskall> mdious: :) The installation itself takes only 2-3 hours. But getting and installing all drivers and software is a tedious and frustrating process
[09:34] <eyequeue> okay, enough homophobia, i'm out of here
[09:34] <SF100> printk: to the desktop but they are in a folder
[09:34] <eloquence_> lol
[09:34] <eloquence_> haha
[09:34] <eloquence_> i scared him away
[09:34] <printk> SF100: then your they are in your home directory/Desktop
[09:35] <eloquence_> who is the phobe then?
[09:35] <printk> SF100: /home/SF100/Desktop/<folder>
[09:35] <mdious> Raskall>you are bringing back painful memories, I've gotten so use to linux and bsd having all the drivers i need...windows would be fun without a internet connection...ah yes it doesn't run after 30 days or something if you don't do...some rubbish with it doesn't it?
[09:35] <SF100> i cant seem to get to them
[09:35] <SF100> im so lost :(
[09:35] <eloquence_> sf
[09:35] <eloquence_> take my sincere advice
[09:35] <printk> SF100: you acn type "~" as a special character to get to your home.  Like cd ~<username>/Desktop
[09:35] <eloquence_> make a partition
[09:35] <eloquence_> and put linux
[09:35] <repartad> how can I setup so when I type "iceage2" it runs vlc/certain folder
[09:35] <eloquence_> 3 gb is fine
[09:35] <SF100> oh lemme try that
[09:35] <eloquence_> dualboot is very efficient
[09:36] <printk> repartad: create a file and put the command you want in it, then chmod  +x it
[09:36] <repartad> will that set it up so I can just run the alias in the terminal?
[09:36] <eloquence_> yo printk ... bro .. how can i make sure about my intel wireless's type
[09:36] <repartad> im trying to make it girlfriend friendy.
[09:36] <SF100> printk: im trying that now
[09:37] <sindrum> lol
[09:37] <printk> eloquence_: does lspci or dmesg list it?  If not contact your computer manufactorer? :))
[09:37] <mdious> printk>Thanks for the ~, i didn't know about that :)
[09:37] <printk> mdious: np :)
[09:38] <mdious> printk:  thanks for the lspci, I had forgotten about that one :)
[09:38] <printk> heh
[09:38] <eloquence_> lspci lists a bunch of stuff
[09:38] <eloquence_> but nothing specific
[09:38] <eloquence_> intel stuff
[09:39] <eloquence_> i am looking thru dmesg now
[09:39] <printk> eloquence_: doesn't list like Intel Pro 2100 or 2200 ?
[09:39] <SF100> printk: i dont know what im doing wrong but i cant get there still
[09:40] <eloquence_> in lspci?
[09:40] <eloquence_> no
[09:40] <eloquence_> even though i was able to connect thru wireless as a default device
[09:40] <eloquence_> no device info
[09:40] <repartad> so, about 4 days ago.. one of my molars was being pushed up.. like it was lose and hurting terribly. I couldn't even TOUCH it it was so bad.
[09:41] <repartad> Now, its perfectly fine
[09:41] <Raskall> mdious: yup. it needs to be "activated". :)
[09:41] <printk> SF100: are you able to cd ~<your_username_here>/Desktop atleast?
[09:41] <eloquence_> even in ubuntu's device manager ... manufacturer unknown
[09:41] <repartad> it like sunk back down.
[09:41] <repartad> odd?
[09:41] <printk> eloquence_: shrugs sorry man
[09:41] <eloquence_> damn
[09:41] <repartad> I prayed to god to make the pain go away because it was so bad.
[09:41] <repartad> very very odd.
[09:41] <raghu206> how to set data source name in oracle ..:?
[09:41] <printk> eloquence_: if you can find out what it actually is you can make linux recongnize it... just need to know for sure what you have
[09:42] <mdious> printk>you don't need to put the username in correct...or is that just there for reference?
[09:42] <sindrum> SF100: try doing sudo -i
[09:42] <eloquence_> how do i find out what it is thru linux atr the same time that linux doesn't know what it is
[09:42] <printk> oh youre right don't need the username if it is YOUR home dir
[09:42] <sindrum> SF100: then do cd /
[09:42] <sindrum> SF100: then do ls
[09:42] <eloquence_> u must forgive me i am fairly new to linux ... last time i was on it was like 5 years ago
[09:42] <printk> but say you're loggged in as user1 and you want to go to user2 you'd type cd ~user2
[09:42] <eloquence_> no ... more
[09:42] <printk> if you are user1 and want to go to your own you can just use ~ by it self
[09:43] <sindrum> SF100: hows that going?
[09:43] <SF100> printk: it says "no such file or directory"
[09:43] <SF100> sindrum ok
[09:43] <SF100> i got a directory listing
[09:44] <sindrum> SF100: whats it say?
[09:44] <SF100> now im totally lost i dont know who to follow
[09:44] <sindrum> SF100: whats it say?
[09:44] <SF100> bin cdrom etc
[09:44] <SF100> and a bunch of other stuff
[09:44] <sindrum> is there home?
[09:44] <mdious> type pwd
[09:44] <sindrum> cd home
[09:44] <SF100> yes there is a home
[09:44] <eloquence_> the mysteries of linux....
[09:45] <SF100> ok
[09:45] <sindrum> ls
[09:45] <sindrum> cd username
[09:45] <SF100> ok
[09:45] <sindrum> repeat
[09:45] <mdious> sounds like /
[09:45] <mdious> sindrum>do you have to lather and rinse first?
[09:45] <sindrum> dont forget to capitalize the d on Desktop
[09:46] <SF100> GOT IT
[09:46] <sindrum> g/j
[09:46] <SF100> thanks sindrum and printk
[09:46] <sindrum> np
[09:46] <SF100> now to install the tools but i was just so lost on the nav of directories
[09:46] <SF100> i totally forgot case sens in nix
[09:47] <SF100> im a tard
[09:47] <SF100> been years since i look at anything nix
[09:47] <ihavenoname>  hi
[09:47] <ihavenoname>  hi
[09:47] <SF100> thanks so much
[09:47] <sohan> sorry, what name for French canal ?
[09:47] <sohan>   /join <ubuntu-fr>
[09:48] <SF100> you guys and gals are great for helping have a great holiday season
[09:48] <sohan> ok i see ;)
[09:48] <impparator> h
[09:48] <eloquence_> keep it real bor
[09:48] <eloquence_> bro*
[09:48] <matthew_> yay! I'm back!
[09:49] <eloquence_> yay!
[09:49] <Raskall> SF100: which holiday is it now?
[09:50] <matthew_> uh, Christmas, I think...
[09:50] <matthew_> whoops, never mind...I'm not SF100
[09:50] <Raskall> christmas isn't until 3 weeks.
[09:50] <Raskall> blargh.
[09:50] <Raskall> I hate christmas
[09:50] <matthew_> Raskall, why?
[09:51] <eloquence_> its international midget tossing week
[09:51] <eloquence_> lets celebrate
[09:51] <eloquence_> and toss midgets into the international!
[09:51] <matthew_> <= passes eloquence_ a glass of wine
[09:51] <matthew_> !etiquette
[09:51] <Raskall> matthew_: because that was the time of year my parents drank the most and beat us up every day (instead of every other day)
[09:51] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[09:51] <matthew_> Raskall, aww, that's so sad....
[09:51] <eloquence_> looks like Raskall has issues
[09:51] <eloquence_> lets not pet him the wrong way
[09:51] <elkbuntu> guys. how about you take discussion that isnt support related to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:52] <eloquence_> dude if u dont get help at charter... get help somewhere
[09:52] <mdious> Raskal: :(
[09:52] <matthew_> elkbuntu, ok, I'll chill out...
[09:52] <eloquence_> good idea elk
[09:52] <Raskall> matthew_: I know. I'd like to cancel christmas altogether, but I have my own family now and they deserve the celebration
[09:52] <eloquence_> back to my hp laptop
[09:52] <eloquence_> anybody got experience with hp products and linux?
[09:53] <axisys> how do i install soundwrapper?
[09:53] <Raskall> elkbuntu: sorry
[09:53] <eloquence_> i cant seem to find what type of wireless chip i have
[09:53] <eloquence_> either its a broadcom or an intel
[09:53] <matthew_> Raskall, you know, if you're really telling the truth, than that is really sad...anyways, I'm gonna go smoke some salvia divinorum...good night, all
[09:53] <mdious> night matthew
[09:53] <sindrum> lol
[09:53] <eloquence_> i think it is intel as that is what most descriptions of the HP Pavillion dv8000t say
[09:53] <sindrum> good night
[09:53] <eloquence_> u smoke saliva?
[09:53] <matthew_> salvia
[09:53] <eloquence_> how can u smoke a liquid?
[09:53] <sindrum> i do
[09:53] <matthew_> lol
[09:54] <eloquence_> ;) i know
[09:54] <sindrum> ?
[09:54] <matthew_> night...
[09:54] <eloquence_> hawk a loogie and toke up
[09:54] <Crankeye> hey guys
[09:54] <eloquence_> sindrum u do what?
[09:54] <First|Laptop> !offtopic
[09:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <sindrum> nothing
[09:55] <Crankeye> I'm trying to get my CD-RW Drive to work. It can read CDs but it cannot recognize CD-Rs. Its an HP CD Writer any ideas?
[09:55] <eloquence_> bah
[09:55] <eloquence_> my lappie is doomed
[09:56] <Crankeye> I did some searching on google and found something about SCSI support
[09:56] <sindrum> whats the deal with ipodder thing keeps giving me an error on close?
[09:56] <Crankeye> Which is need it kenel 2.4 and im running 2.6
[09:56] <Crankeye> >_>;
[09:58] <malt> anybody know any cheap vps server hosts for like $10 a month? thats like 100 gb a month
[09:58] <malt> of bandwidth
[09:58] <mdious> what is a vps server?
[09:58] <mdious> sorry fo rmy ignorance
[09:58] <malt> virtual dedicated server
[09:58] <Crankeye> VPS = Virtual Private Server
[09:59] <malt> yeah
[09:59] <malt> I ment private
[09:59] <malt> there usally cheaper
[09:59] <malt> then a dedicated
[10:00] <gauteh> hey. would i be able to upgrade to feisty by adding the fesity repos to sources.list and do a dist upgrade?
[10:00] <First|Laptop> gauteh: yea but i really wouldn't recommend it right now
[10:01] <gauteh> First|Laptop:  ah ok.. xkill then :)
[10:02] <malt> wow found a cheap vps server host ---> http://www.vpslink.com/vps-hosting/
[10:02] <mdious> Crankeye>cheers
[10:03] <First|Laptop> you get what you pay for
[10:03] <sindrum> whens fesity fawn do to come out?
[10:03] <Crankeye> cheers?
[10:03] <Crankeye> ;p
[10:03] <gauteh> how can i edit my powersaving/cpu scaling more advanced.. now it goes up and down all thetime
[10:03] <Crankeye> ah gotcha
[10:03] <Crankeye> np
[10:03] <Crankeye> ;p
[10:03] <First|Laptop> sindrum: probably 4 - 6 months after edgy came out
[10:04] <sindrum> yeah i found it on there site april 07...
[10:05] <First|Laptop> dapper runs just fine for me
[10:06] <arash> is mono broken
[10:06] <arash> in edgy?
[10:06] <arash> im trying to install ASP.net for apache2
[10:06] <arash> i get a dependancy problem
[10:06] <Crankeye> I'm trying to get my CD-RW Drive to work. It can read CDs but it cannot recognize CD-Rs. Its an HP CD Writer any ideas?
[10:06] <Crankeye> whoa spam
[10:06] <Crankeye> whoa spam
[10:06] <Crankeye> I'm trying to get my CD-RW Drive to work. It can read CDs but it cannot recognize CD-Rs. Its an HP CD Writer any ideas?
[10:07] <eloquence_> no
[10:07] <eloquence_> its a net split
[10:07] <Crankeye> lawl
[10:07] <mdious> arash>isn't asp.net for windows?
[10:07] <eloquence_> a whole network server disconnects from the main server
[10:07] <Crankeye> i was jay slash kay
[10:07] <eloquence_> and then rejoins
[10:07] <mdious> Crankeye>cd-rw should work...any chance you have a dodgy cd-r?
[10:07] <eloquence_> so all ppl are suddenly vanished then reassimilated
[10:07] <eloquence_> ohhh
[10:07] <eloquence_> sorry
[10:07] <eloquence_> u know the kind of ppl that come here
[10:07] <Crankeye> mdious: nope ive tried a few kinds of cd-rs and no dice
[10:07] <mdious> Crankeye:  :(
[10:08] <Crankeye> i recognizes that its a cd burner when i try to burn an iso
[10:08] <Crankeye> but it keeps asking me to insert a disk
[10:08] <Crankeye> even though it says CD-Rom on the desktop
[10:08] <Crankeye> it should say CD-R Though
[10:08] <mdious> i think i might have something to eat...Catcha Later everyone, good luck with your cd-r...sorry i have no useful tips or help
[10:10] <kurisutofuaa> How do you tell If your video supports 3D?
[10:10] <cappiz> how do i change the default LANG for the system?
[10:10] <eloquence_> kde has a test
[10:10] <eloquence_> kurisutofuaa, kde has this way of checking
[10:11] <eloquence_> if u can handle 3d
[10:11] <eloquence_> google the kde 3d test thingy
[10:11] <astroboy> greetings. I've just installed edgyeft but on reboot get "Error: 17: Cannot mount selected partition" which apparently means Grub can't recognise partition fs - yet all are ext3.  Any ideas .. ?
[10:12] <eloquence_> let's play "Identify eloquence's wireless device": http://pastebin.ca/264355
[10:13] <Kaaroth> Hi amigos !!!
[10:13] <Kaaroth> are there many italians ??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I need help !!!!
[10:13] <Kaaroth> or I cast Kamehameha
[10:14] <Kaaroth> o reg me date firefox da install
[10:14] <First|Laptop> uhh
[10:14] <Kaaroth> ??????????????????????????????????????
[10:14] <Kaaroth> uhhhhhh
[10:14] <First|Laptop> ...
[10:14] <astroboy> Ha, ha, ah ..
[10:14] <Kaaroth> Can you help me , please ?!
[10:14] <astroboy> Et moi ?
[10:15] <Kaaroth> tu e trepel
[10:15] <Kaaroth> vulevu pat avec mua
[10:15] <astroboy> NIght, night .. I need some sleep.
[10:15] <sindrum>  eloquence: what is your computer?im guessing its built into the computer cannot remove...
[10:15] <Kaaroth> I need serius help !!!
[10:16] <astroboy> Don't we all ..
[10:16] <chalcedony> Kaaroth: take two aspirins and come back tomorrow ;)
[10:16] <koles> hello
[10:16] <koles> I have problem with installing Ubuntu 6.10 desktop
[10:16] <First|Laptop> That's pretty general.
[10:16] <astroboy> Me too ..
[10:16] <koles> when i press install icon and there is option with partitions
[10:17] <koles> u set up mounting point as "/"
[10:17] <astroboy> comedia dell Ubuntu .. ?
[10:17] <Kaaroth> chalcedony your mother work in the traffic!!!
[10:17] <sindrum>  eloquence: what is your laptop?
[10:17] <koles> and program dont want continue the install
[10:17] <Kaaroth> I need serius help
[10:17] <eloquence_> hp dv8000t
[10:17] <astroboy> eloquence: what is your laptop ?
[10:18] <eloquence_> it is built in i believe
[10:18] <Kaaroth> mi lap top is the LAPDANCE
[10:18] <eloquence_> http://pastebin.ca/264360
[10:18] <eloquence_> that is lspci and demsg
[10:18] <koles> anybody ?
[10:19] <astroboy> Laptop Lapdance .. hmm
[10:19] <astroboy> radiation in the gonads
[10:20] <sindrum> im gonna say ... Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[10:20] <sindrum> http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[10:20] <Kaaroth> www.google.it
[10:20] <eloquence_> ok
[10:20] <eloquence_> so sindrum this is the type i have huh?
[10:21] <eloquence_> and how do i find the chipset for getting better linux drivers?
[10:21] <enderrules> darn ender istaken
[10:21] <enderrules> ok so if i have an  amd turion 64 do i have to do the 64 bit ones or can i go with n ormal
[10:21] <sindrum> ok im gonna get ready to kill a deer...good morning ttyl
[10:22] <enderrules> lol
[10:22] <Kaaroth> www.softpedia.com
[10:22] <enderrules> wats that
[10:22] <enderrules> woohoo
[10:22] <enderrules> 3 percent and i started a minute ago or so
[10:23] <enderrules> downthemall was getting horible speeds
[10:23] <enderrules> like in the under 10 kbps range
[10:23] <Crankeye> I'm trying to get my CD-RW Drive to work. It can read CDs but it cannot recognize CD-Rs. Its an HP CD Writer any ideas?
[10:23] <enderrules> who is gonna out yellow dog on there ps3
[10:24] <enderrules> wait
[10:24] <enderrules> SHIT how do i dual boot windows and ubuntu
[10:24] <koles> can anybody help me ?
[10:24] <DBO> !dualboot
[10:24] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[10:24] <koles> please guys
[10:24] <enderrules> thanks
[10:25] <DBO> !justask | koles
[10:25] <ubotu> koles: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:25] <koles> so
[10:25] <enderrules> ummmmmm do i have to burn it to a cd
[10:25] <Kaaroth> fuck all!!!!!!!!!
[10:26] <elkbuntu> !language
[10:26] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:26] <koles> I just downloaded U6.10 desktop cd and when i want install it partition program dont work for me corettly
[10:26] <First|Laptop> DBO: He asked a few times already but nobody obviously knows the answer to his question
[10:26] <DBO> Firetech, sorry didnt see it
[10:26] <koles> i mean When i set up my partition to "/" mounting mode
[10:26] <koles> nothing happens
[10:26] <DBO> =/
[10:26] <koles> what shall i do ?
[10:26] <koles> :/
[10:26] <DBO> koles, I have no idea...
[10:26] <enderrules> ummmmmm do i have to burn it to a cd   cuz i have alcohol soft 120% and was wondering if i could just use that
[10:27] <enderrules> cuz i think my dads asleep and the cds r in  his room
[10:27] <koles> i have this second time, i thod my cd downloaded have bug so Ive dwl again and nothing
[10:27] <ski-worklap> wake him up, are you afraid you'll find him masturbating?
[10:27] <koles> :(
[10:27] <maxamillion> anyone here using pypanel?@?@?
[10:27] <First|Laptop> ...
[10:27] <enderrules> lol
[10:27] <enderrules> its 12 am
[10:27] <enderrules> 12 27 am
[10:27] <First|Laptop> enderrules: move like a ninja and get them.
[10:28] <ski-worklap> psth. it's 4.27am here
[10:28] <ski-worklap> that reminds me
[10:28] <enderrules> lol im in alaska
[10:28] <enderrules> LMAO
[10:28] <enderrules> i alrdy am a ninja stupid wtf do u think a blackbelt is?
[10:28] <skiZZZ> juneau?
[10:28] <enderrules> nah anchorage
[10:28] <enderrules> y?
[10:28] <First|Laptop> then getting some cds should be an easy task
[10:28] <enderrules> woohoo
[10:28] <skiZZZ> anchorage is only 1 hour off pacific time? odd
[10:29] <enderrules> lol its a joke i may be a blackbelt but im no ninja
[10:29] <enderrules> nope
[10:29] <enderrules> its not odd
[10:29] <enderrules> its just how they decided to do it
[10:29] <enderrules> i think alaska only has one time zone if i remember
[10:30] <enderrules> so yes or no do i have to use the amd64 for my turion 64
[10:30] <diskus> enderrules: no, you can use 32-bit
[10:30] <enderrules> kk
[10:30] <enderrules> cuz my  other cpu is 32 bit sempron
[10:30] <enderrules> i wanna dual boot both:P
[10:31] <enderrules> i wanna be teh uber nerd at my school
[10:31] <enderrules> idk many nerds that have said they use linux
[10:31] <diskus> nerd doesn't need windows
[10:31] <First|Laptop> i have an AMD64 and i run 32 bit ubuntu just fine
[10:31] <enderrules> huh
[10:31] <First|Laptop> 64 bit isn't worth it yet imo
[10:31] <diskus> and uber nerd doesn't use linux :P
[10:31] <enderrules> kk
[10:31] <TiG4> **-- Is it possible to map an ip on my network to a string, so say i wanted to map <IP_ADDRESS> to 'WebServer', so that I could just type , ssh WebServer
[10:31] <enderrules> in my school uber nerd=linux user
[10:31] <eloquence_> anybody know about remmod in ubuntu?
[10:31] <enderrules> hey speaking of network
[10:32] <eloquence_> i wanna erase a wireless driver and install a new one
[10:32] <enderrules> how do i connect to my windows setup wirless network
[10:32] <diskus> TiG4: check /etc/hosts
[10:32] <enderrules> woohoo 14 percent of ubuntu!
[10:32] <TiG4> diskus, got it, thanks
[10:33] <TiG4> diskus, do I need to reload the hosts file somehow?
[10:33] <First|Laptop> ever since i got this laptop my desktop has turned into mostly a fileserver
[10:33] <First|Laptop> >_>
[10:33] <diskus> TiG4: no, you add <IP_ADDRESS> WebServer there and it should work
[10:33] <enderrules> lol i have a laptop and im on it right now
[10:33] <TiG4> mk
[10:33] <eloquence_> me too
[10:33] <eloquence_> on an hp laptop with ubuntu
[10:33] <enderrules> its mostly for school but its got some stuff.... aka porn
[10:33] <diskus> TiG4: it's text file
[10:33] <eloquence_> i am so happy i installed
[10:34] <enderrules> i have a compaq:S
[10:34] <eloquence_> but having dial up sucks when trying to update and download new proggies
[10:34] <enderrules> ouch
[10:34] <TiG4> diskus, yep got it working, thanks
[10:34] <eloquence_> enderrules, we're practically cousins dude!
[10:34] <enderrules> i dont have dialup
[10:34] <diskus> I have 5 seasons of 3rd rock from the sun on my ubuntu laptop :P
[10:34] <eloquence_> i am currently living in saudi arabia
[10:34] <eloquence_> so i am a bit screwed until my dsl comes applied weeks ago
[10:35] <graveson> where can i find a guide to install a dual boot system with edgy and windows XP, i currently have XP installed :(
[10:35] <holycow> !dualboot
[10:35] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[10:36] <graveson> !dualboot
[10:38] <eloquence_> graveson
[10:38] <eloquence_> i installed dapper
[10:38] <eloquence_> need some help?
[10:38] <skiZZZ> eloquence_, what's the prob?
[10:38] <eloquence_> i am a linux newbie mainly... but the fact that i did what u r trying to do means i can help if th emore advanced users are helping ppl with advanced stuff
[10:38] <eloquence_> skizzz i need to know what kind of wireless device i have
[10:39] <diskus> maybe lspci?
[10:39] <skiZZZ> eloquence_, pastebin the output of ifconfig -a for a start
[10:39] <diskus> eloquence_: try runing 'lspci'
[10:39] <eloquence_> and based on the description of the HP Pavillion dv8000t laptop it says i should have an intel 3945
[10:39] <eloquence_> http://pastebin.ca/264360 here is an lspci and dmesg
[10:39] <diskus> and check ifconfig -a as skiZZZ said or dmesg after reboot
[10:39] <kurisutofuaa> How do I check if my video card supports 3D in ubuntu-Edgy64?
[10:40] <diskus> it's laptop?
[10:40] <eloquence_> yea
[10:40] <Kishore> Hi all
[10:40] <dade`> how do i use the debug kernel image ?
[10:40] <eloquence_> for some reason it isn't reading any eth1 device
[10:40] <eloquence_> i think i am really ifconfig -ascrewed nowq
[10:40] <eloquence_> now*
[10:40] <graveson> eloquence : my dapper crashed due to hardware failure, and i had to switch to windows as i upraded my pc to core 2 duo . I found out after that Dapper will not work. So i downloaded Edgy and i hope it will firstly install onto my Core 2 duo and also not mess up my windows install so i can recover the data
[10:41] <eloquence_> i am running dapper on a core duo
[10:41] <skiZZZ> eloquence_, when i first got my hands onthis laptop on tuesday, sound ethernet and wifi were all blanks
[10:41] <eloquence_> so u might need a 64bit one for core 2
[10:41] <eloquence_> ok cool skizz
[10:41] <eloquence_> to tell u the truth skizz
[10:41] <skiZZZ> on weds they all worked
[10:41] <eloquence_> until last night i was using wireless
[10:42] <eloquence_> but last night i tried to install a broadcom driver since sum1 said i have a broadcom and it disappeared
[10:42] <eloquence_> in the terminal window it says there are currenty drivers that seem to work do i wanna override
[10:42] <eloquence_> and i di
[10:42] <eloquence_> but i never rebooted
[10:42] <diskus> eloquence_: can you give me model number of your laptop?
[10:42] <diskus> eloquence_: it's easier to google what hardware you have in it
[10:42] <eloquence_> my laptop battery died while i was asleep ( i forgot to plug the cord in)
[10:42] <eloquence_> and i woke up this morning to a dead lappie
[10:42] <eloquence_> HP dv8000t
[10:44] <diskus> seems like Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network w/Bluetooth
[10:45] <eloquence_> yea
[10:45] <graveson> eloquence: i believe there is a difference between core duo and core 2 duo
[10:45] <kurisutofuaa> How do I check if my video card supports 3D in ubuntu-Edgyamd64?
[10:46] <s1`_> do you have an ati o nvidia?
[10:46] <eloquence_> yea graveson
[10:46] <eloquence_> core 2 duo is 64 bit
[10:46] <kurisutofuaa> ATI
[10:46] <eloquence_> u just gotta get a 64bit os
[10:46] <eloquence_> i have nvidia sl if that question was for me
[10:47] <diskus> eloquence_: you could try loading modprobe ipw3945, and checking if it's recognized
[10:47] <graveson> eloquence: will the desktop version of edgy not work then ? :(
[10:47] <eloquence_> i am not sure grave
[10:47] <eloquence_> i have core duo
[10:47] <First|Laptop> eloquence_: You don't need a 64 bit OS just because the chip supports it.
[10:47] <eloquence_> but from what i been reading
[10:47] <eloquence_> if u have a 64 bit proc u gotta install a 64bit os
[10:47] <diskus> no need 64-bit at all
[10:47] <eloquence_> oh ok
[10:47] <eloquence_> i see then
[10:48] <eloquence_> cool
[10:48] <s1`_> kurisutofuaa, check on ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[10:48] <First|Laptop> I have two 64 bit chips running 32 bit ubuntu
[10:48] <axisys> anyone here can tell how to install soundwrapper? sorry for the reapeat question
[10:48] <DarkED> Hi all, is it possible to install ubuntu FROM a usb drive such as a PSP or thumbdrive?
[10:48] <diskus> it's even easier if you run 32-bit ubuntu on amd64 hardware
[10:49] <DarkED> For some reason, I cannot write the CD correctly (after six attempts now) and I'm tired of burning coasters
[10:50] <diskus> DarkED: that's why I use cd-rw :P
[10:50] <mathieu_> DarkED: you can install linux using pretty much any media, but cd is probably the easiest way
[10:51] <YBH_1> Darked, yes copy the iso to the USB drive and mount using the mount -loop option. Do a google search.
[10:52] <mathieu_> diskus: assuming you can boot into a unix system
[10:52] <diskus> mathieu_: yeah
[10:52] <DarkED> Hmm, and also, if the LiveCD part of the disc will not work, is it possible that the text-based installer will work?
[10:53] <mathieu_> diskus: sorry that was for darked
[10:53] <diskus> mathieu_: :P
[10:53] <shaym> hello
[10:53] <theAdib> hello does Ubuntu support my laptop AC97 Modem ? 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller. WHich device will it be ?
[10:53] <shaym> i look for someone who have a toshiba satellite M70
[10:53] <shaym> to get some configuration files
[10:54] <DarkED> YBH_1: And doing this I won't have to use internet/network to complete the install?
[10:54] <enyc> theAdib: hrrm ac97 audio an that sounds like the i810-audio driver... but that is not modem part of it
[10:54] <DarkED> Um, nope I can't boot into a unix system
[10:54] <DarkED> So, guess I'm stuck..
[10:55] <eloquence_> i did modprobe ipw3945 nothing happened
[10:55] <eloquence_> diskus, any ideas?
[10:55] <enyc> theAdib: I think the answer really is... that is not a real model as such... its all software controlled whatnot. I know there are _some_ linux modelos for these 'winwodem' like units...
[10:55] <diskus> eloquence_: nope, but myself I would reinstall my laptop to be sure
[10:56] <diskus> eloquence_: http://cepes.org.pe/jaime/dv8000t.html read this, it's for Fedora Core 5 but you can maybe get something out of it
[10:56] <shaym> i want to create a master access point, ihave a ipw2200
[10:56] <shaym> the master option is not recognized
[10:57] <DarkED> Hmm, guess it probably WONT work in text mode either, considering the corrupted file is filesystem.squashfs and that is the file with all the install packages lol
[10:57] <astroboy> What about the fiskus ?
[10:58] <graveson> i hope edgy will solve my issue - windows is giving me a headache as i cannot control what it does
[10:58] <eloquence_> reinstall ubuntu diskus?
[10:58] <livingdaylight> !paste
[10:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:58] <eloquence_> that would be such a problem for me after this whole week of downloading and upgrading
[10:58] <eloquence_> i am on dialup
[10:58] <phisquare> Hi guys, I want to set up my computer to be a linux file server right now and also run myth tv with an ati tv tuner card.  The file server needs to be windows accessable
[10:59] <phisquare> I want subversion access on this box too and remote vnc access as well
[10:59] <phisquare> Can this be done with edgy?
[10:59] <kraut> moin
[10:59] <enyc> theAdib: read on http://www.linmodems.org/ for general info
[11:00] <enyc> theAdib: im sure there are some wiki.ubuntu.com pages with ubuntu-specifigc info.
[11:00] <theAdib> phisquare: samba is your friend, windows fileserver
[11:00] <theAdib> enyc: ok, I will do
[11:00] <epswing> so i'm considering ubuntu.  first question, 6.10 vs 6.06.  is there some question i can ask and answer myself which would single out which i would want to install?
[11:03] <hc`> hi. anyone willing to help me with Compiz?
[11:05] <mkst> need help on iptables
[11:05] <DBO> mkst, whats up?
[11:05] <phpError> uh, i386 works on p4 cpus right?
[11:05] <mkst> ok...
[11:06] <DBO> phpError, yes
[11:06] <phpError> :)
[11:06] <mkst> i need to know how i can make changes on iptables available after rebbot
[11:07] <mkst> that is, i add my rules but when i reboot i have to set them up again.
[11:07] <DBO> mkst, make a script with your rules
[11:07] <Shi> hi
[11:07] <Shi> :)
[11:07] <eloquence_> mew
[11:07] <mkst> i'm a newbye
[11:08] <DBO> mkst, then put that script in /etc/init.d, and symlink it to /etc/rc2.d as S74scriptname
[11:08] <mkst> where should i put that script?
[11:08] <hastesaver> Hi, I'm trying to do a fresh install of Edgy (upgrade from Dapper). My /home was a separate partition.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek | FAQ:
[11:14] <epswing>           https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options:
[11:14] <epswing>           http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info:
[11:14] <epswing>           https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | The Ubuntu pastebin is
[11:14] <hastesaver> in case someone even read my question... nevermind, I figured it out myself :-)
[11:15] <eloquence_> lol hastesaver
[11:15] <eloquence_> that happens so often
[11:16] <abductee> DBO: thanks for the tip
[11:16] <hastesaver> eloquence_: but it's not surprising, lots of people, things tend to go unnoticed, or the right people aren't here at the time... I'm not complaining
[11:16] <eloquence_> yea
[11:16] <eloquence_> no for me
[11:16] <eloquence_> i would say the question like 3 times
[11:16] <eloquence_> each time fearing that i might bother ppl by repeating
[11:16] <eloquence_> but they wouldnt notice
[11:17] <eloquence_> then i crack a few jokes get some attention and ask
[11:17] <eloquence_> lol
[11:17] <eloquence_> try it .. i just exposed my copyrighted techniques
[11:17] <eloquence_> ppl have other things going on
[11:17] <hastesaver> eloquence_: framing questions so as to grab attention and elicit answers is an art, eh? :-)
[11:17] <eloquence_> i am sure the advanced users dont just sit on their irc window and stare off into ppl's complaints and problems
[11:17] <pecisk> how to tell ubuntu version from console?
[11:17] <eloquence_> oh yea its an art
[11:18] <robotgeek> pecisk: lsb-release -a
[11:18] <pecisk> robotgeek: thanks :)
[11:18] <eloquence_> bah damn ieee80211
[11:19] <ath0_up> eloquence_: why damn?
[11:19] <|thunder> ALL; is there a way to have apt-get list the packages that are marked for upgrade in the console? I checked the man page, it references the -u option, but I cant get it to do anything, even with update and install. help.
[11:19] <eloquence_> it wont install
[11:20] <eloquence_> http://pastebin.ca/264380
[11:20] <Terminus> |thunder: hmmm... why not `apt-get -s upgrade` ?
[11:21] <|thunder> Terminus; does that download anything ?
[11:21] <hastesaver> |thunder: "-s" is the option for "simulate only". Does it not work, or is too crude a method for your tastes?
[11:21] <Terminus> |thunder: nope.
[11:21] <|thunder> have not tried it.
[11:21] <lazzareth> Hey, I Really Need Help, I need to author a DVD in ubuntu.. I need to get an episode of stargate (.avi) on a dvd to run & work in a dvd player to impress my girls mother! Pretty much will make or break our sex life!?
[11:21] <|thunder> lemme give it a shot and see if it suits my palette
[11:22] <hastesaver> lazzareth: lol. Try qdvdauthor, maybe
[11:22] <defrysk> lazzareth, that pretty easy
[11:22] <|thunder> lazzareth; use ffmpeg or mencoder to conver to mpeg-2.
[11:22] <gavintu> how do I run scripts/text files from console?
[11:22] <defrysk> lazzareth, sudo apt-get install ffmpeg dvdauthor
[11:22] <|thunder> gavintu; put a ./ in fornt of it
[11:22] <Shi> you make them executable thanks to chmod
[11:23] <lazzareth> ok, its installing, Thank you so much you guys!
[11:23] <lazzareth> You know how it is
[11:23] <hastesaver> gavintu: unless you know what you're doing, you shouldn't :-) (But if you do, then it's "./<filename>" or "bash <filename>" or "sh filename", or whatever you prefer)
[11:23] <Shi> and then you run them by typing ./your_script_name
[11:23] <eloquence_> ath0 have u installed it?
[11:23] <defrysk> lazzareth, http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2006/12/01/avi-to-dvd-with-ffmpeg-and-dvdauthor/
[11:23] <gavintu> hastesaver: I'm not doing anything crazy :  ).
[11:23] <Terminus> hastesaver: bash and sh only works for scripts. ./ is more general. =P
[11:24] <gavintu> hastesaver: but ./ is giving me permission denied, so do I have to make it executable AND use the command?
[11:24] <lazzareth> defrysk, That looks to be it, Thank you so much,
[11:24] <hastesaver> gavintu: do "chmod +x <filename>"
[11:24] <lazzareth> Ill video tape it for you :P
[11:24] <defrysk> lol
[11:24] <tanlaan> Does anyone know of a linux distro that looks/acts/uses the same principles as Mac OS X?
[11:24] <hastesaver> gavintu: chmod = change mode, +x = make executable. The "permission denied" only means that the file is not executable
 Hello.
 We put the videocard in the PC and only the fan is blowing, we get a blank screen. It is an ATI Radeon 9600 XT and we checked AGP and PCI support
 you can't put it in the wrong one, man, it's either agp or pci
 The new video card has longer slots than my old one. That one had shorter ones. While it does fit, my PC doesn't boot.
 Please, help...
[11:26] <Alzi2_> Sorry for the paste.
[11:26] <Alzi2_> But I need help
[11:27] <gavintu> hastesaver: OK, got it, thanks!
[11:27] <reverseblade> Alzi2_, this has nothing to do with #ubuntu
[11:27] <tanlaan> try going into bios and then going to exit, then goto set defaults
[11:27] <tanlaan> that may help
[11:27] <tanlaan> *thats what i did for mine*
[11:27] <shaym> i can't set mode master for my ipw2200
[11:27] <tanlaan> i had  a wrong setting somewhere
[11:28] <shaym> should i compile myself the ipw2200 source ?
[11:28] <ath0_up> shaym: wich driver do you use?
[11:28] <hastesaver> tanlaan: you *can* make GNOME (the default Ubuntu desktop) look (somewhat like) OS X. Search the web for "Making GNOME look like OS X" :-) But for those "principles", it's hard to say. Try it and see for yourself.
[11:28] <shaym> from the ubuntu 6.10
[11:28] <tanlaan> hastesaver: well thats not all that i meant/want
[11:29] <tanlaan> hastesaver: what i want is a linux distro that really uses the principles of OS X
[11:29] <eilker> people should i install dhcp or dhcp3 ??? (trying for wmvare server)
[11:29] <hastesaver> tanlaan: and what are those principles?
[11:29] <reverseblade> eilker, #networking ?
[11:29] <tanlaan> hastesaver: as in having everything used most often up front and in plain view and not cluttered
[11:29] <shaym> i want to build a wifi access point on my laptop centrino
[11:29] <tanlaan> hastesaver: most linux distros/programs tend to try and fit the most they can in one space
[11:30] <shaym> i don't have a hardware wifi routeur
[11:30] <tanlaan> hastesaver: i had a great article on it just earlier today, and im trying to find it
[11:30] <shaym> i just want to test my pda wifi via my laptop wifi chipset
[11:30] <shaym> i found a tuto on building custom ipw2200 modules
[11:31] <hastesaver> tanlaan: what you're saying is interesting, but I've got to reboot now... I'm on the Live CD, just finished installing Edgy. gtg :-(
[11:31] <reverseblade> shaym, it is hard hard being a geek is
[11:32] <tanlaan> hastesaver: ok goodbye
[11:34] <shaym> the tuto tells to copy the ipw2.3*.fw to /usr/lib/hotplug
[11:34] <shaym> but the previous directory doesn't exists
[11:35] <ath0_up> you could try putting it into the firmware folder
[11:35] <shaym> ??
[11:36] <tanlaan> if anyone would like to read a pretty good article, and maybe talk to me about it, here is "9 things KDE should learn from Mac OS X" http://www.icefox.net/articles/kdeosx.php
[11:36] <tanlaan> i think its good
[11:36] <tanlaan> and it makes for a pretty good discussion topic
[11:36] <ath0_up> /lib/firmware
[11:36] <shaym> ok
[11:45] <richard501> anyone know how to setup a server on pen drive?
[11:45] <richard501> ive done it on windows
[11:45] <richard501> not with linux
[11:45] <richard501> i got 500mb pen drive
[11:46] <tanlaan> well i would say...
[11:46] <tanlaan> get a bootable server disk
[11:46] <tanlaan> *install disk
[11:47] <tanlaan> then boot to it, and install it onto the pendrive
[11:47] <_greenie> ive found a rather unique bug when u dual boot windows XP pro and ubuntu 6.10...
[11:47] <tanlaan> then boot to the pendrive
[11:47] <_greenie> u are able to change date/time on windows, but not in ubuntu,,,
[11:48] <|thunder> Im trying to install dvd95, and it says I have a failed dependency. 'libdbus-1-2'  I have 'libdbus-1-3' installed, but there is no 2 just 3. any thought ?
[11:48] <richard501> how big is the ubuntu server?
[11:48] <richard501> once expanded
[11:48] <richard501> installed
[11:49] <shaym> i forgot the command to add automatically by default a service stored into /etc/init.d
[11:49] <as124j> hi Hobbsee
[11:49] <Scrippie> hi
[11:50] <Hobbsee> heya
[11:51] <bimberi> shaym: update-rc.d
[11:51] <shaym> thanks
[11:51] <bimberi> np :)
[11:51] <sacater> if anyone is having trouble with quicktime videos, and/or windows videos .wmv .wma etc.
[11:51] <sacater> use sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:52] <|thunder> sacater; does vlc have a firefox plug-in ?
[11:52] <_greenie> i cant get my 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02), in my laptop to produce sound :(
[11:52] <shaym> i compiled my ipw2200 modules
[11:52] <shaym> i try it now
[11:53] <bimberi> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc
[11:53] <ubotu> mozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB
[11:53] <sacater> exit
[11:54] <momal> Anyone know of a good dvd authoring program? I need support for custom menu/chapters and ease of use. (Similar to what Nero Vision did on windows)
[11:55] <|thunder> momal; go to freshmeat and search for dvdauthor. theres lots
[11:55] <defrysk> !qdvdauthor | momal
[11:55] <ubotu> qdvdauthor: GUI frontend for dvdauthor and other related tools. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.1.2-0.0 (edgy), package size 3299 kB, installed size 6700 kB
[11:55] <suston3d> hi all ... i have a problem with ubuntu dd on my desktop pc... everytime i start ubuntu i must rechange the keyboardlayout ... its getting kinda anoying .. on my asus notebook it works perfektly
[11:55] <momal> thanks will try them out :)
[11:57] <dter> Is it possible to 'downgrade' edgy to dapper?
[11:57] <sacater> dter: i doubt it,
[11:57] <bimberi> suston3d: how are you changing the layout?
[11:57] <bimberi> !downgrade
[11:57] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[11:57] <defrysk> dter, anything is possible , if its doable is something else
[11:57] <dter> great
[11:57] <manitsme> I was wondering if anyone knows of a way that I can make a text file listing the names of a file in a directory  with the full path? ie. a mp3 folder with song.mp and it would list it in a text file as /home/user/share/song.mp3  I am trying to make a list generator for  a shoutcast type of deal  thank you
[11:57] <dter> guess ill have to reinstall my system then
[11:58] <defrysk> !backup | dter
[11:58] <ubotu> dter: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[11:58] <dter> I know how to backup.
[11:58] <RoC_MM> !cloning
[11:58] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[11:58] <dter> Why on earth doesnt edgy support my mouse and dapper did perfectly?
[11:58] <suston3d> i change it with system->Configuration->Keyboard
[11:59] <dkrzakala> Anyone here launched Tibia linux client on ubuntu? :P
[11:59] <[^Twen^] > I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my computer, but when I'm clicking "install ubuntu" the installation won't really start. I'm getting this message:
[11:59] <[^Twen^] > Timeout waiting for DMA
[11:59] <[^Twen^] > what does it means?
[11:59] <sogar> Hello, anybody running 6.06 ? I'd like you to check something in a manpage for me...
[12:00] <dter> My wireless usb mouse worked perfectly in dapper, then I updated to edgy and it doesnt work anymore. So as I cannot downgrade it back to dapper, I guess I have to reinstall my system?
[12:00] <eilker> by which command can i learn my dns adresses??
[12:00] <dter> eilker: ifconfig
[12:00] <bimberi> suston3d: perhaps try changing the setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:00] <eilker> dter: it is dns
[12:00] <dter> eilker: doesnt ifconfig show dns too?
[12:00] <eilker> dter: no it doesnt
[12:00] <bimberi> dter: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:00] <suston3d> the layout is set to "de" -_-"
[12:01] <suston3d> in xorg.conf
[12:01] <dter> bimberi: what does that do?
[12:01] <dter> eilker: ah sorry, I thought so
[12:01] <dkrzakala> And also question.. I have builtin i945G graphic card.. and my 6.06 has driver i810. Is it possible to enable hardware graphic acceleration or install new drivers for i945G?
[12:01] <bimberi> dter: oops, misnick, meant for eilker
[12:01] <sogar> can somebody on 6.06 tell me if they see the -F option in "man shutdown" ? Thank you
[12:01] <suston3d> but im using beryl .. so i think its ignoring the xorg.conf ?? not sure about that
[12:01] <DBO> suston3d, beryl has nothing to do with your xorg.conf, it load WAY after that is read
[12:02] <dter> bimberi: np, can you help me out with my mouse? worked in dapper but not in edgy
[12:02] <eilker> bimberi: i need to learn what isp gives us to use
[12:02] <eilker> bimberi: trying to configure dhcpd.conf here
[12:03] <sogar> hello ?
[12:03] <bimberi> dter: sorry, i'm not sure
[12:03] <suston3d> hmm ... but if the entry is set in the xorg.conf to a german keyboard layout .. way doesnt it work ;(
[12:03] <sogar> can someobdy fucking read what I'm typing ?
[12:03] <we2by> hi
[12:03] <dter> !language
[12:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:03] <suston3d> yes sugar
[12:03] <DBO> sogar, yes and please dont swear
[12:03] <sogar> ah, sorry
[12:03] <sogar> I though I was not +v or something
[12:03] <bimberi> eilker: cat /etc/resolv.conf will show you what the current nameservers are
[12:03] <we2by> my gnome-panel is scrwed up. it is crashing. I can't use it. how do I fix it??
[12:04] <sogar> Okay if somebody is running 6.06, can you take a look into man shutdown and see if you see option "-F" ?
[12:04] <DBO> sogar, unfortunately not many dapper users here, so you might be waiting a bit...
[12:04] <sogar> Okay, I'll be waiting.. this isn't really an emergency...
[12:04] <we2by> guys?
[12:04] <MegaR0m> hi, are ther any howto's for leadtek tuners on ubuntu ?
[12:04] <suston3d> xorg.conf: Option "XkbLayout" "de"  - isnt this ok ?
[12:05] <dter> I runned my lovely Ubuntu for half a year now (Dapper). I just upgraded using the update-manager to edgy, and my mouse doesnt work, now my system is practicly rendered unusable and im stuck on the command line.
[12:05] <manitsme> -F     Force fsck on reboot.  there sogar
[12:05] <sogar> manitsme: aaah thank you..
[12:05] <we2by> my gnome-panel is scrwed up. it is crashing. I can't use it. how do I fix it??
[12:06] <jmsbwtr_> hellol, i want to use sound juicer to rip cds to mp3, i have installed lame and gst-ugly but i get error, invalid parameters when trying to rip...
[12:06] <dkrzakala> so anyone here knows how to install intel drivers for i945G? :P
[12:06] <sogar> so -F is present in shutdown on 6.06 ... can you do shutdown -rF now to check if it works ? :)
[12:06] <shaym> in fact, i can't make difference between mode ad-hoc and mode master ?
[12:06] <dter> Should I reinstall dapper?
[12:06] <eloquence_> can sum1 help:
[12:06] <eloquence_> adil@provision:~/ieee80211-1.2.15$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386
[12:06] <eloquence_> Password:
[12:06] <eloquence_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:06] <eloquence_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:06] <dter> !paste
[12:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <eloquence_> i am trying to nstall ieee80211 subsystem to install my wireless lan card's drivers from intel
[12:07] <bimberi> eloquence_: close synaptic, and don't paste that much in here please
[12:07] <dter> eloquence_: use sudo
[12:07] <eloquence_> ok
[12:07] <dter> eloquence_: sudo apt-get install ...
[12:07] <dter> eloquence_: also make sure you dont have adept/synaptic open
[12:07] <eloquence_> thanks guys
[12:07] <eloquence_> that was the one
[12:07] <eloquence_> damn problem
[12:07] <dter> sudo?
[12:07] <eloquence_> also
[12:07] <eloquence_> can u check this out
[12:07] <eloquence_> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/61647-installing-ieee80211-file-missing.html
[12:08] <eloquence_> synaptic was open
[12:08] <dter> at the commandline atm, need help too =[
[12:08] <dter> sorry
[12:08] <bimberi> dter: have you tried reconfiguring X?
[12:08] <dter> bimberi: yes, several times, both manually editing xorg.conf and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:08] <MegaR0m> hi, are ther any howto's for leadtek tuners on ubuntu ?
[12:08] <HumanPrototype> hi
[12:08] <MegaR0m> hey
[12:09] <bimberi> dter: kk :|
[12:09] <HumanPrototype> how do I put a directory full of files using ftp?
[12:09] <MegaR0m> upload ?
[12:09] <HumanPrototype> MegaR0m, yup
[12:09] <HumanPrototype> MegaR0m, from the command line
[12:09] <manitsme> I was wondering if anyone knows of a way that I can make a text file listing the names of a file in a directory  with the full path? ie. a mp3 folder with song.mp and it would list it in a text file as /home/user/share/song.mp3  I am trying to make a list generator for  a shoutcast type of deal  thank you
[12:09] <dter> HumanPrototype: cp/mv /path/to/local/files ftp://the/ftp/server/?
[12:10] <Fortis> how can I open a file using the commandline?
[12:10] <dter> Fortis: what kind of file
[12:10] <HumanPrototype> dter thanks
[12:10] <Fortis> textfile?
[12:10] <apokryphos> Fortis: programtoopenwith somefile
[12:10] <Fortis> ok
[12:10] <apokryphos> Fortis: gedit textfile
[12:10] <dter> Fortis: editing from the commandline? nano /file/
[12:10] <shaym> someone played with the intel ipw2200-ap project ?
[12:10] <eloquence_> bimberi, once apt-get finishes with those headers... what do i have to do?
[12:11] <eloquence_> reboot or sumthin?
[12:11] <eloquence_> or does it not affect my performance?
[12:11] <HumanPrototype> dter, that doesnt work im afraif
[12:11] <dter> HumanPrototype: do you want to copy or move files?
[12:11] <dter> eloquence_: guess so
[12:11] <eloquence_> ok cool
[12:11] <HumanPrototype> dter copy the phpbb package from my pc to the ftp server for a site i am working on
[12:11] <eloquence_> thanks dter i know u r busy with your own prob thanks for the help
[12:12] <bimberi> eloquence_: no, just resume whatever guide told you to install them
[12:12] <dter> HumanPrototype: 'cp /path/to/phpbb ftp://ftp/server/folder/'
[12:12] <we2by> what's the command to start gnome user management??
[12:12] <dter> HumanPrototype: I think
[12:12] <we2by> can any one tells me that
[12:12] <cox377> has anyone here managed to get aol working on a usb modem with ubuntu? i've read the instructions for installing the modem which seems fine, however i dont know about aol as i've heard there are issues using it's own interface etc. ps just doing some research for a friend
[12:12] <dter> eloquence_: anytime mate, i have to go now anyway, good luck
[12:13] <bimberi> we2by: users-admin
[12:13] <HumanPrototype> dter, it just tells me ftp://blah is not a directory
[12:13] <eloquence_> thanks bimberi
[12:13] <dter> HumanPrototype: hmm, I think you need some app like gftp or proftpd or something
[12:13] <we2by> bimberi, where is that located?
[12:13] <HumanPrototype> we2by, just press alt+F2 and type in that
[12:13] <bimberi> we2by: /usr/bin/users-admin
[12:14] <eloquence_> i hope this stuff works
[12:15] <jokoon> Hello
[12:15] <[NikO] > !apt
[12:15] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:15] <Ema> Hi guys
[12:16] <jokoon> Where is the file I should modify to change the characters typed with my keyboard ?
[12:17] <jokoon> Or maybe is there a better way to change these ?
[12:17] <Ema> I'd like to know what is the name of the system monitor that shows you the CPU, hard disk temperature and so on on the gnome panel
[12:18] <Fortis> how do I create a new textfile using the commandline?
[12:18] <jerp> jokoon, do you need to find another keyboard setting, if so use System/preferences/Keyboard
[12:19] <Ema> jerp
[12:19] <outime> Fortis, you can make it with 'nano file'
[12:19] <jokoon> jerp I want to create my own keyboard layout
[12:19] <outime> make, and write
[12:19] <Fortis> OK thanks
[12:19] <jerp> hello Ema
[12:19] <Ema> who can I ask for a good system resource monitor? gnoame-system-monitor is quite sucky..
[12:19] <jokoon> jerp I heard there is some file to change
[12:20] <Ema> thanks in advance jerp I now you know! :-)
[12:20] <jerp> jokoon, i c
[12:21] <bimberi> Fortis: 'touch filename' creates an empty file
[12:21] <cox377> !aol
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <Ema> Guys i'd like to know where to find better system monitors, maybe ones to append to gnome upeer panel and so on...do you know any? Do all of you use gnome-system-monitro?
[12:23] <defrysk> Ema, top
[12:23] <huiber1>  Ema: gnome system mmon, works for me :-)
[12:23] <jerp> Ema, the panel applet I have on my screen is "System Monitor"
[12:23] <huiber1> Ema: what is missing?
[12:23] <jokoon> For what kind of CPU the generic kernel is made ?
[12:24] <jerp> ema, right click on the panel and click on add to panel
[12:24] <defrysk> Ema, an nice monitor for you might be gkrellm
[12:24] <huiber1> jokoon: >> 586 AFAIK
[12:24] <defrysk> Ema, its nice eye candy
[12:24] <jerp> near the bottom of the page find "system monitor"
[12:24] <jokoon> so for an old amd athlon 2200+
[12:25] <huiber1> 2200+ is not "old"
[12:25] <Ema> yeah i'd like the one which shows CPU speed, hd temperature and so on
[12:25] <defrysk> jokoon, sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[12:25] <jerp> in the "system & hardware" section
[12:25] <defrysk> Ema, try gkrellm
[12:25] <jokoon> huiber1 at least 3 years is rather old
[12:25] <domek_pieknis> jo
[12:26] <jerp> ema, you might be talking about gdesklets from the synaptic manager
[12:26] <huiber1> A cpu is not bread, it does not get stale after a while
[12:26] <jerp> there's also adesklets
[12:26] <bimberi> !generic
[12:26] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[12:26] <Ema> gkrellm is quite what i mean
[12:27] <jerp> Ema, you with me?
[12:27] <Ema> yes
[12:27] <Ema> where can i see a list of them do you know?
[12:28] <eilker> anyone using dhcp server ???
[12:28] <jerp> ema, a and g desklets put the info on the desktop like you have seen on many screenshots
[12:29] <snedar> hi! is there an official way to install the beta nvidia drivers in edgy? I'd rather not use nvidia's installer or an unofficial repository/deb package...
[12:29] <Ema> coool so do i have to try gdesklets?
[12:30] <HumanPrototype> eilker, i am
[12:30] <jerp> ema, yeah, just install it with synaptic
[12:30] <jerp> real easy
[12:30] <HumanPrototype> what kernel should I install on a AMD X2 3800 pc?
[12:30] <defrysk> http://amaranth.selfip.com used to have a repository but unfotunatly its closed for now
[12:30] <Ema> apt-get ;-)
[12:30] <defrysk> snedar
[12:30] <bimberi> !nvidiabeta | snedar
[12:30] <ubotu> snedar: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://seerofsouls.com/ edgy contrib" (for x86) (key at http://seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[12:31] <jerp> there's a cpu thingy in it
[12:31] <defrysk> ah bimberi  :)
[12:31] <defrysk> also thanks from here :)
[12:31] <Whoopie> Hi, anybody knows where I can find packages for ecryptfs-utils and keyutils for Edgy?
[12:31] <eilker> HumanPrototype: i need a favor, i lost my dhcpd.conf , and i dont know how to fix it, could you share your file with me ?
[12:31] <Corbeaux> friend of mine is getting Bug: soft lockup on cpu#0 when he tries to install any ideas?
[12:31] <HumanPrototype> eilker, sure - let me just grab it for u
[12:32] <snedar> defrysk, bimberi: thanks, but they are unofficial and after all upgrade and security problems I heard of, I'd rather not use any unofficial packages...
[12:32] <eilker> HumanPrototype: thank you so much
[12:32] <bimberi> snedar: a good policy
[12:33] <song> hey, why I cannot establish connection together with ejb and mysql
[12:33] <snedar> so maybe I'll just have to make a testing installation for that stuff then, then I could try the feisty dev version too
[12:33] <HumanPrototype> eilker, http://hjmills.co.uk/files/dhcpd.conf
[12:33] <defrysk> snedar, then you have to wait for the next version of ubuntu (edgy eft)
[12:33] <enry183> i just installed Samba....when i try to connect my linuxpc to windowspc (which is correctly found) samba ask me domain and passwor....but i don't know the password!!
[12:34] <enry183> help
[12:34] <defrysk> feisty that is sorry
[12:34] <enry183> help
[12:34] <song> this info "MESSAGE: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused" always display
[12:34] <snedar> defrysk: yep, I will wait for that for my 'working installation'
[12:34] <defrysk> !patience | enry183
[12:34] <ubotu> enry183: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:34] <enry183> ok but i'm a newbe
[12:35] <eilker> HumanPrototype: thanx again:)
[12:35] <HumanPrototype> eilker, hope that helps
[12:35] <defrysk> enry183, then read the guidlines , being a newbie is no excuse
[12:36] <eilker> HumanPrototype: in fact i dont know how to setup it, but still searching in google
[12:36] <shaym> if i compile the ipw2200 module from source, should i also recompile my kernel ?
[12:36] <MegaR0m> 02:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) ... Anybody know a guide onto howto make a /dev/tuner from this ? its a tv card !
[12:37] <HumanPrototype> eilker, try https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[12:37] <domek_pieknis> hi
[12:37] <TrendKi||> hey guys, got a quick package versioning question, in amarok_2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10, what is the "2" ?
[12:37] <jerp> enry, sorry, I'd help but I'm not that far along, I did have to establish a new password for the login screen from the point of grub
[12:38] <we2by> can u mount .daa files?
[12:38] <domek_pieknis> Ilona? Are u there?
[12:38] <Ilona> :|
[12:38] <jerp> that good ol' " rw init bin bash "
[12:38] <domek_pieknis> You have message in priv!
[12:38] <domek_pieknis> priv..
[12:38] <Ilona> ja nie umiem po angielku!
[12:38] <Ilona> to dawaj tego priva
[12:38] <Ilona> bo ja nie umiem
[12:38] <Ilona> :P
[12:38] <infernux> Does someone know how to change the Gtk theme used in the GDM Graphical greeter?
[12:39] <domek_pieknis> please wait - ps. tu nie mozna po polsku :(
[12:39] <infernux> i tried to set GtkTheme=Clearlooks in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[12:39] <infernux> but that doesn't work
[12:39] <HymnToLife> infernux,        gksudo gdmsetup
[12:39] <HymnToLife> doesn't it let you do that ?
[12:39] <infernux> HymnToLife: no
[12:40] <Ilona> dlaczego nie mozna?
[12:40] <Ilona> zapraszam Cie na priv!
[12:40] <ath0_up> 0_u ;-)
[12:40] <Ilona> wlaz!
[12:40] <Ilona> :/
[12:40] <Ilona> zaraz mnie cos strzeli
[12:40] <HymnToLife> !pl
[12:40] <domek_pieknis> napisalem ci
[12:40] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:40] <domek_pieknis> kilka razy na priva
[12:40] <domek_pieknis> hymn - sorry
[12:40] <domek_pieknis> she cannot english
[12:40] <Ilona> ciekawe bo ja tobie tez
[12:40] <domek_pieknis> and she dont see a priv window
[12:40] <ath0_up> Ilona: join #ubuntu-pl
[12:40] <ath0_up>  /join
[12:40] <Ilona> ja nie umiem po nie pl
[12:41] <Ilona> wiec spadajcie
[12:41] <domek_pieknis> Ilona - wejdz na przyjacielenel
[12:41] <MegaR0m> polania
[12:41] <MegaR0m> 02:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) ... Anybody know a guide onto howto make a /dev/tuner from this ? its a tv card !
[12:42] <H3g3m0n> !en
[12:42] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:42] <eloquence_> huh
[12:43] <Ilona> ej sluchaj ja stad wychodze
[12:43] <Ilona> bo mnie zaraz krew zaleje
[12:43] <Ilona> chodz na interia
[12:43] <Ilona> pl
[12:43] <eloquence_> yo quiero taco bell
[12:43] <apokryphos> !pl
[12:43] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:43] <domek_pieknis> Ilonko
[12:43] <domek_pieknis> wejdz na kanal przyjacielenel tam pogadamy
[12:43] <apokryphos> English only in here guys
[12:43] <Ilona> nie ma tu tego cholernego kanalu
[12:43] <domek_pieknis> apokry - sorry, she cannot english, and she dont see a priv window :(
[12:43] <eloquence_> !ar
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <domek_pieknis> Ilonka - WPISZ jako NOWY kanal
[12:44] <apokryphos> domek_pieknis: please tell them to join the relevant channel then
[12:44] <domek_pieknis> apokry - i try, but she do not know how to use irc :(
[12:44] <eloquence_> then why is she here?
[12:44] <eloquence_> maybe came thru a website?
[12:44] <domek_pieknis> bye.
[12:45] <jokoon> How can I create my own keyboard layout ?
[12:45] <MegaR0m> do /j #privateChatwithme
[12:45] <abo> can anyone help me with my microphone setup, it used to work perfectly .. but after upgrading to edgy eft I ppl can't hear me in Skype
[12:46] <jokoon> MegaR0m This doesnt look to work in the terminal
[12:46] <huiber1> abo:have you checked your microphone settings with "alsa mixer gui"
[12:47] <kmon_> Hi
[12:47] <needshelp> hey can someone give me a link to a ubuntu live dvd torrent.
[12:47] <kmon_> Is there a specific channel for backports?
[12:47] <abo> huiber1, it's putting Mic Boost [Off] , how can I turn it on?
[12:48] <huiber1> abo:  it can be turned on in the "sound setting applet" from ypur desktop
[12:48] <jerp> jokoon, did you try this????   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188761
[12:48] <abo> huiber1, but the mic is at the highest level
[12:48] <jokoon> jerp not yet
[12:48] <huiber1> abo: are the red lights on?
[12:48] <huiber1> abo: this indictaion if it is used to capture
[12:49] <jokoon> jerp wow thanks, it perfectly match my question.
[12:49] <jerp> yep
[12:49] <jerp> np
[12:49] <KenSentMe> needshelp: here is one for dapper http://sommerville.uvt.nl/ubuntu-dvd/dapper/release.1/
[12:49] <infernux> I just noticed that when I boot with "nosplash" my system boots unbelievably fast! w00t!
[12:50] <needshelp> KenSentMe: thanks :)
[12:50] <abo> huiber1, on the mic, there is the level (all are on "white", "green", "red".. which indicat that it's at the higher level)
[12:50] <needshelp> #azurues-support
[12:50] <KenSentMe> needshelp: thats not the latest release, that is called edgy eft, but i don't think there are dvd releases of that
[12:50] <huiber1> abo: oops, I allways thought it was about the capture device.
[12:50] <HumanPrototype> infernux, is there a reason it boots faster?
[12:51] <abo> huiber1, I'm not sure... I know that it used to work perfectly..
[12:51] <eloquence_> bimberi, u there bro?
[12:51] <battlesquid> hello :) i'm trying to backport vim7 to ubuntu 6.06 using this guide: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Backport_VIM7 however step 8) fails with the following (translating from norwegian now): Buildcommand cd vim-7.0 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc failed. E: Childprocess failed". And so I can't go on as there are no .deb files in the dir as outlined in 9)
[12:51] <ath0_up> anybody got a logitech gamepad working?
[12:51] <ailean> KenSentMe: there are DVD releases of EdgyEft
[12:51] <infernux> HumanPrototype: I don't know... but I had disabled gdm before also and now re-enabled it. it's like gdm popping up just after grub
[12:51] <Seveas> battlesquid, you can find a readymade backport on seveas.imbrandon.com
[12:51] <KenSentMe> ailean: ok, but i couldn't find them
[12:51] <huiber1> abo: in the shell, start alsamixer
[12:52] <infernux> I just see 2-3 lines with acpi stuff and then gdm comes up and I can log into gnome
[12:52] <huiber1> abo: then use TAB key to switch between playback/capture/all
[12:52] <battlesquid> Seveas, thanks i'll have a look
[12:52] <MegaR0m> anyhow can u help on my tuner issue ?
[12:52] <MegaR0m>  02:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)   thats the card ... howto make a tuner from it ?
[12:52] <ailean> KenSentMe: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/
[12:52] <abo> huiber1, I did that, should I choose capture?
[12:52] <KenSentMe> ailean: yeah, found em also now
[12:52] <ailean> KenSentMe: k
[12:53] <huiber1> abo: in cature mode, ypu should see the MIC with the word CAPTURE
[12:53] <philiKON> hi, i just logged into my ubuntu 6.10 system for the 3rd or so time, and the top and bottom bars don't show up. the system just sits there with the brown background doing nothing
[12:53] <philiKON> what's wrong?
[12:54] <abo> huiber1, right, I see it, and the level is at the highest
[12:55] <huiber1> abo: have you tried to record some sounds with your mic
[12:55] <abo> ok it's working now
[12:55] <abo> cheers
[12:55] <huiber1> abo: I find the ekiga setup wizzard good for diagnosing mic problems.
[12:55] <huiber1> abo: it's working?
[12:55] <Ema> jerp are you here?
[12:55] <huiber1> abo:  what have you done?
[12:56] <NiklasofVienna> hi
[12:56] <jerp> philc, are the bars set to hide?
[12:56] <Ema> how can I put desklets on gnome panel?
[12:56] <jerp> yes Ema
[12:56] <huiber1> abo: my sister has the same problem atm.
[12:56] <abo> I raised all capture levels :)
[12:56] <huiber1> abo: thats all?
[12:56] <philiKON> jerp: no. at least i didn't change that seting
[12:56] <jerp> philc,  right click dow at the bottom
[12:56] <jerp> down
[12:57] <abo> huiber1, I'm not sure, I've playing around since a while... but the last thing I did was playing around with the alsamixer
[12:57] <Ema> ohhh found them!
[12:57] <Ema> thanks
[12:57] <jerp> emam yeah right click on the bar
[12:57] <philiKON> jerp: hm, that'll be hard, my mac only has one button :/
[12:58] <jerp> phil, sorry I missed it that you were using a mac
[12:58] <huiber1> abo: thanks for the info
[12:58] <philiKON> jerp: it's ok, i didn't say ...
[12:58] <philiKON> problem is, there's no bar at all
[12:58] <philiKON> just that standard orange-brownish screen
[12:59] <philiKON> after providing login name + password
[12:59] <abo> huiber1,I'm sorry it's not very helpfull....
[12:59] <abo> huiber1, I should thank you for helping me
[12:59] <snedar> does logging out restart the X server like CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does? I'm wring a small tutorial on how to install nvidia drivers, and "Log out" sounds nicer than "Press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE"
[12:59] <snedar> (in edgy)
[12:59] <Jowi> no snedar
[12:59] <jerp> phil, yeah, I'm on a pc myself
[01:00] <snedar> Jowi, okay
[01:01] <philiKON> jerp: what's the top bar called in GNOME, so i can at least try to google the problem...
[01:01] <Jowi> snedar, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" in a terminal is an alternative solution
[01:01] <elkbuntu> philiKON, gnome-panel. the bottom one is a gnome panel as well.
[01:01] <philiKON> ok
[01:01] <philiKON> thx
[01:01] <snedar> Jowi, nah, I'll leave it by CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, it's a bit shorter :-)
[01:02] <Jowi> philiKON, you can try to create a new user and log in with that one to see if it is user specific
[01:02] <philiKON> good idea
[01:02] <philiKON> what's the best way to do that in ubuntu w/o X11?
[01:02] <philiKON> standard adduser?
[01:02] <Jimmey> I've lost a kernel module :-( After playing about with "module-assistant", I can no longer find the bcm43xx module. How can I get it back?
[01:02] <Jowi> philiKON, yep
[01:02] <philiKON> k
[01:02] <huiber1> philiKON:maybe gnome cannot start be cause it can not accass your sound device,
[01:03] <philiKON> huiber1: hmm, that may be, though it used to work before...
[01:03] <philiKON> this is, as said, the 3rd or 4th time i started
[01:03] <philiKON> and it worked perfectly earlier
[01:03] <huiber1> philiKON: I had that once, because some OSS app was still hanging (crashed) in th ebackground
[01:03] <Minty> is there a automatixeezy ? for br
[01:04] <huiber1> abo:  OSS as in open sound system,
[01:04] <philiKON> hmm, interesting
[01:04] <huiber1> abo: OSS only allows one thread to access sound
[01:04] <abo> huiber1, while alsa allows multiple?
[01:05] <huiber1> abo: yes
[01:05] <abo> huiber1, mmmm... ok thx
[01:05] <huiber1>  philiKON: sorry, yes.
[01:05] <errorlevel> huiber1: I used to be able to use my sound card (SBLive) with more than one app using OSS.
[01:05] <philiKON> huiber1: the problem persists after restats, though
[01:05] <philiKON> restarts
[01:06] <huiber1> errorlevel: this might be, for this pupose daemons like ESD Arts and the like where written
[01:06] <errorlevel> huiber1: I agree, though, in general, it was true.  Although, I think it was on a card-by-card basis.
[01:06] <Jowi> philiKON, same prob with new user?
[01:06] <huiber1> philiKON:the problem should go away after a restart, if it is what I think it is.
[01:06] <philiKON> Jowi: no, a new user can log in
[01:06] <philiKON> just tried
[01:06] <abo> I have a difficulty playing embedded videos, in firefox, and although I can see that the win32codecs are installed I can only play wmv with vlc, anyone can help? I have installed everything thing using automatix, which ppl here say is not good, but how can I fix it now?
[01:07] <philiKON> works nicely with a new user
[01:07] <philiKON> so, something about my configuration must be hosed
[01:07] <richee> ubuntu sucks :p
[01:07] <Jowi> philiKON, so something in ~/.gnome2 or something
[01:07] <huiber1>  philiKON: then maybe some app in your session is "stealing" the sound devicve, before gnome can access it?
[01:07] <philiKON> presumably
[01:07] <philiKON> i can just get rid of that
[01:07] <philiKON> there was nothign important there
[01:08] <huiber1>  philiKON: but I really hate it , how the gnome splash/login can hang because of something simple like this.
[01:08] <philiKON> we don't know what it is yet...
[01:08] <philiKON> but yeah, it seems a bit strange
[01:08] <Jowi> does anyone know if gnome will move its configs to ~/.config in the future?
[01:08] <snedar> is there a good reason why autohinter isn't enabled by default in ubuntu?
[01:09] <philiKON> hmm, problem is still there after deleting .gnome* and .nautilus
[01:10] <philiKON> now i just get a grey square in the upper left corner
[01:10] <philiKON> and when hovering the mouse over it, the cursor changes to a text cursor
[01:10] <philiKON> weird
[01:10] <huiber1>  philiKON: looks like you have removed _half_ of the gnome config :-(
[01:10] <Jowi> philiKON, how about .gtk* ?
[01:10] <philiKON> huiber1: ok, what's the other half? ;)
[01:11] <philiKON> Jowi: hmm, ok
[01:11] <philiKON> i'm new to gnome
[01:11] <huiber1>  philiKON: might work to delete it, throw it away
[01:11] <Jowi> philiKON, or .gconf* :)
[01:11] <philiKON> yeah, got rid of that too
[01:11] <Jowi> philiKON, or... or... or... hehe
[01:11] <philiKON> heck, i can throw away my user
[01:11] <philiKON> i just need to make that other one an admin, i suppose
[01:13] <MegaR0m> so anybody care to help me on my tuner problem ?
[01:13] <coz_> MegaR0m, well I have no idea what you mean ... tuner? problem
[01:14] <huiber1>  philiKON: yes, that should work...
[01:14] <david_> Hi, is this a good place to ask about a dapper->edgy upgrade problem?
[01:14] <philiKON> huiber1: i suppose it's about adding the user to the 'admin' group, right?
[01:14] <huiber1>  philiKON: but be carefull.
[01:14] <coz_> david this is theplace , what i s the question
[01:15] <david_> Ran into bug registered as Bug #67996 - opera is in a directory installer tries to delete
[01:15] <huiber1>  philiKON: I dont know precicely, the user might need other groups too, check your current user.
[01:15] <MegaR0m> well i got this
[01:15] <david_> Seems to screw up whole package updater system
[01:15] <MegaR0m> anyhow can u help on my tuner issue ?
[01:15] <MegaR0m>  02:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)   thats the card ... howto make a tuner from it ?
[01:15] <philiKON> huiber1: good idea
[01:15] <david_> Can I restore to some state that has workingness?
[01:15] <MegaR0m> i posted like 3 times earlier but noon replied coz_
[01:16] <huiber1> MegaR0m: maybe because nobody knows.
[01:16] <coz_> david_, well unfortunately i never use opera... sorry, however, someone here can certainly help with that problem
[01:16] <coz_> MegaR0m, sorrry to hear that
[01:16] <huiber1> MegaR0m: how about asking in a mythtv or dvr irc/forum?
[01:16] <david_> To be honest, I'd forgotten I installed it. (sorry I did - it was just for web-devel checking...
[01:17] <coz_> MegaR0m, ok i can tell you that i would not be the person with that knowledge... however two things...
[01:17] <huiber1> david_:yes, delete tne /usr/X11/bin/opera thingy.....
[01:17] <coz_> MegaR0m, first.. if someone says no one answers you probably because no on eknows... pay no attention to that
[01:17] <philiKON> huiber1: great, after giving the other user all those groups, same symptoms with that user account as well
[01:17] <coz_> MegaR0m, at least they can say they don't know
[01:18] <huiber1> philiKON:"now thats strange..."
[01:18] <philiKON> :)
[01:18] <coz_> MegaR0m, second... keep asking the question , not pesty like, but ask it several times.. people with the knowledge you need may not be online as of yet
[01:18] <david_> huiber1: Just the bit in X11R6/bin? Did that immediately - in fact don't know if it's that that screwed it up
[01:18] <coz_> MegaR0m, remember people are here form all over the planet so there are many time zones
[01:18] <iwkse> hi, how's possible to jump to a page with evince?
[01:19] <zeR> Wei jemand, ob es neben Gimmie noch andere alternative Panel-Anstze gibt?
[01:19] <huiber1> david_: yes, it abborts the x-org upgrade, and therefore aborts the system upgrade.
[01:19] <coz_> MegaR0m, i am sorry no one had the courtesy to tell you they didn't know the answer .. before
[01:19] <huiber1> david_: you  should be able to go into singleuser mode.
[01:20] <huiber1> david: and try apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20] <jokoon> Is there a better DVI or PS viewer than the default one that allows to scroll the page by left clicking and moving the mouse up and down ?
[01:20] <david_> huiber1: I haven't restarted, so I'm still logged in. Should I reboot, and try again, then? How do I get to singleuser mode(sorry if silly question)?
[01:20] <iwkse> jokoon: evince with dvi support enabled
[01:20] <MegaR0m> tho somebody must know
[01:21] <jokoon> iwkse Yes that program was launched when I opened a PS file. What about scrolling with left click ?
[01:21] <coz_> MegaR0m, you know guy you are right... someone doesknow .. unfortuanatley i have no idea when those peple may bo online, but please continue to ask and don't get frustrated here come in at different times of the day you will get someone to answer you
[01:22] <blekos> hello
[01:22] <MegaR0m> o_0
[01:22] <coz_> MegaR0m, sorry
[01:22] <huiber1> david: If you are still logged in, try opeing a terminal or console
[01:22] <blekos> i got fingerprint recognition on my laptop, anyidea how i can make it work?
[01:22] <david_> huiber1: ok
[01:23] <coz_> MegaR0m, in the mean time while you are wiating to ask agin, you may want to google the question in different ways, i am sure  you ahve done some of this, but..
[01:24] <jerp> blekos, oooo that's what I want to get, may I ask what device you are using?
[01:24] <blekos> vaio vgn-sz3xp
[01:24] <MegaR0m> like i didnt
[01:24] <jerp> blek, so it must be built in, right?
[01:25] <blekos> yeap
[01:25] <philiKON> huiber1: i have the suspicion that your guess about sound system goes in the right direction
[01:25] <huiber1> david: I dont know if the system upgrade only performs a package upgrade, or if other things are changed as well...
[01:26] <blekos> unfortuenately it's not 100% linux compatible
[01:26] <blekos> i'm missing the built in camera functionality as well as
[01:26] <huiber1> philiKON: cool, ok. It was just a guess though
[01:26] <jerp> blekos, I built my own pc and need to get it as an add-on
[01:26] <blekos> the ability to change between the gr.cards
[01:26] <blekos> o i c