[02:36] <jrib> !upstart > dspstv (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:36] <kitche> xcst: the video is probably formatted for that size :)
[02:37] <jrib> xcst: go to mplayer prefs
[02:37] <dspstv> jrib, i've read on upstart but is to complex for me
[02:37] <jrib> Innomen: now go to global keybindings and set it up
[02:37] <dspstv> i just need to add one line
[02:37] <jrib> dspstv: what line
[02:37] <dspstv> to whatever works like inittab in ubuntu
[02:38] <xcst> wheres mplayer prefs? sori
[02:38] <dixon> Does anybody know where can I download gutsy release candidate?
[02:38] <dspstv> jrib, a line for a program i need to respawn if it crashes
[02:38] <kitche> dixon: download.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <xcst> there
[02:38] <xcst> jrib,  im at prefs
[02:38] <Innomen> ha!
[02:38] <Innomen> jrib: thank you
[02:38] <jrib> xcst: use "xv" as your video output
[02:38] <dixon> kitche: download.ubuntu.com is down :\
[02:38] <jo1> whenever i leave my pc alone for a while or manually 'suspend' the session, when i try to log back in i get a yellow msg at the top "   Linu" and cannot get back in without a hard reboot - any help?
[02:39] <MikeDX> its not down its just hammered
[02:39] <MikeDX> j01 do any of the ctrl+alt+F1-7 combos work?
[02:39] <xcst> oh there it is
[02:39] <xcst> thanks
[02:39] <xcst> jrib, thanks
[02:39] <jrib> dspstv: don't know that then, try #upstart
[02:39] <jrib> Innomen, xcst: no problem
[02:40] <jo1> MikeDX: erm yes they appear to but i dont know how to use any of them?
[02:40] <kst> ok, another try :P my compiz won't work, see bash/xorg.conf here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40249/
[02:40] <jrib> kst: #ubuntu-effects for compiz help
[02:40] <MikeDX> jo1: if you can get to ctrl+alt+f1 for instance, you can login (as yourself) then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart if your desktop has crashed
[02:41] <kst> :P thanks jrib
[02:41] <aguitel> how open and write in pdf file?
[02:41] <IdleOne> !odf | aguitel
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about odf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <IdleOne> !pdf | aguitel
[02:41] <ubotu> aguitel: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[02:42] <brownie17> i got G-lined from a different IRC server through a misunderstanding and i'm trying to find a proxy that won't be stopped by their DNS ban list check
[02:42] <jo1> MikeDX: oh no sorry i thought you meant in general, ive not tried any of the shortcuts DURING the crash. anyhow i can hard reset anyway i would like to prevent it if possible
[02:42] <kitche> !offtopic | brownie17
[02:42] <ubotu> brownie17: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:43] <marko> HI, I have a XMMS player and I would like to install a xmms crossfader ''plugin'' but I dont know how..!!!!so I need a little help.....if it is possible....thx
[02:43] <IdleOne> brownie17: this is the wrong place to ask for help to ban evade
[02:43] <RasqualTwilight> hello, why are there multiple versions of libc6, and why can't they live side by side?
[02:43] <kst> is there a hardware support channel? i want to ask stuff about usbhid and mousepolling rate but no one in here ever replied ;-)
[02:43] <maxiounet> join #ubuntufr
[02:43] <brownie17> IdleOne, was just whinging not asking for help.
[02:43] <jrib> !support > kst (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:43] <kst> thx
[02:43] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: well they can but all the programs depend on glibc to work
[02:44] <maxiounet> commen on fai pr allez sur le chay ubuntu francai svp
[02:44] <jrib> kst: probably better asked on a mailing list or forum
[02:44] <crolle17> how to print a page with open select-box?
[02:44] <IdleOne> maxiounet: tape /join #ubuntu-fr
[02:44] <crolle17> into memory
[02:44] <maxiounet> ok ;)
[02:44] <kst> are these mailing lists useful? i've never been on one, not sure how they work jrib :)
[02:44] <kst> you just sign up and then you get all the emails ppl write?
[02:45] <jrib> kst: yep
[02:45] <RasqualTwilight> kitche: but why does the package manager insist that I downgrade libc6 to install some progs in synaptics?
[02:45] <crolle17> i have a  webpage, which i want to print into memory, but with opened select-box.
[02:45] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: no clue conflict in your sources.lst?
[02:45] <crolle17> alt+print or print doesn't work.
[02:46] <RasqualTwilight> kitche, actually I installed libc6 from a .deb to make another program work
[02:46] <jrib> RasqualTwilight: you have a broken system then
[02:46] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: well that's probably why you most likely messed your whole system up
[02:46] <RasqualTwilight> well, yeah, I can downgrade safely I think
[02:46] <RasqualTwilight> it's just annoying that it doesn't "just work"
[02:47] <jrib> RasqualTwilight: why did you need the libc deb
[02:47] <RasqualTwilight> I think a 3rd party app needs 2.6.1-5, ubuntu has 2.5-0ubuntu14
[02:47] <jrib> RasqualTwilight: what app?
[02:47] <Cryx> anyone know where is the file that contains all the "links" like when i write to shell "lol" it does some action
[02:48] <RasqualTwilight> jrib: aqualung
[02:48] <RasqualTwilight> http://aqualung.sourceforge.net/
[02:48] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: it does just work but all the programs depends on glibc if you upgrade your glibc without recompiling all the programs almost nothing works unless of course it installs to a different path
[02:48] <jo1> whenever i leave my pc alone for a while or manually 'suspend' the session, when i try to log back in i get a yellow msg at the top "   Linu" and cannot get back in without a hard reboot - any help?
[02:49] <tom__> jo1: it's a problem with acpi
[02:49] <tom__> jo1: or apm
[02:49] <gcc_> hi, i have troubles with clone my ubuntu to other computer
[02:50] <jrib> RasqualTwilight: it's packaged in gutsy, if you can wait a week for release
[02:50] <jewbilee> I have 2 internal harddrives on my computer that I cannot figure out how to get into on ubuntu through command line (ie: i dont know the pathname to them).  How do I figure out their path name.  I need to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst on them but they arent showing in ubuntu
[02:51] <kitche> jewbilee: you sure they are not showing up in ubuntu? /dev/sdX is them most likely
[02:51] <jewbilee> where X is the number correct?
[02:51] <jewbilee> they arent showing under computer so i dont know how to access them
[02:51] <kitche> jewbilee: no X is the device like a b c
[02:52] <jewbilee> alright
[02:52] <jdownie> jewbilee: or you can have a look at the output from dmesg to see what HDDs the kernel is registering
[02:52] <jewbilee> can you tell me the command to list HDD and partitions?
[02:52] <tom__> jewbilee: or they could be /dev/hdX
[02:52] <praecox> hey guys
[02:52] <tom__> jewbilee: df -h
[02:52] <praecox> I experienced kinda odd problem on my Ubuntu recently
[02:52] <tom__> what was it
[02:52] <genii> jewbilee: sudo fdisk -l
[02:52] <RasqualTwilight> kitche: basically, it means that if I want to tread away from the synaptics "path", I will encounter such problems?
[02:52] <praecox> some keys are blocking on my keyboard
[02:53] <praecox> I mean sometimes when I press some keys
[02:53] <tom__> praecox: are you sure your keyboard isn't just stuffed
[02:53] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: well with core programs you will
[02:53] <jdownie> jewbilee: are they ide drives or scsi/sata?
[02:53] <praecox> on of them, mostly last one, keeps writing same letter
[02:53] <regebro> I have a weird problem with my laptop and it's external monitor. The entire picture will "vibrate" from side to side.
[02:53] <praecox> tom__, yes, I checked with three different keyboards.
[02:53] <praecox> tom__, it looks like software problem.
[02:53] <tom__> praecox: that sure is weird
[02:53] <IdleOne> praecox: sounds like a dirtu keyboard to me
[02:53] <regebro> I've seen some more people asking, but no answers, and I need this to work in c:a 2 hrs... :-/
[02:54] <RasqualTwilight> kitche: the other solution, except upgrading to gg, would be compiling from the sources?
[02:54] <regebro> It's an i915 chip,
[02:54] <praecox> IdleOne, I know, but as I said - I checked three other keyboards, all have the same symptoms.
[02:54] <praecox> IdleOne, and it doesn't happen on other workstations.
[02:55] <kitche> regebro: that's not a problem really just means your refresh rate is wrong
[02:55] <praecox> IdleOne, tom__, do you have *any* idea what can this be? except dirty keyboard?
[02:55] <IdleOne> praecox: none sorry
[02:56] <jewbilee> jdownie: They are SATA drivers in a RAID configuration
[02:56] <regebro> kitche: Well, I'm not excluding any solutions. Could you tell me what refresh rate I should have?
[02:56] <tom__> praecox: umm something crazy wrong with possibly
[02:56] <jewbilee> the problem is everytime i reboot I get an gurb error 21
[02:56] <jewbilee> and I cant choose vista or ubuntu
[02:56] <tvisto> Hi all
[02:56] <Downix> evening
[02:56] <regebro> kitche: I've never seen anything like this before, and different refresh rates or dfferent monitors does not seem to make a difference.
[02:56] <LDS_Trooper> morning
[02:56] <tom__> hey
[02:56] <Downix> I forgot to check if there's a SPARC32 version of Ubuntu
[02:56] <tvisto> We've just installed Ubuntu at work at all PC's wow! so great
[02:56] <tom__> tvisto: congrats
[02:57] <LDS_Trooper> tvisto, excellent!
[02:57] <LDS_Trooper> 7 more days to the new release
[02:57] <kitche> regebro: figure out the refresh rate that looks good on your eyes is just a tiny vibrate or a big vibrate and do other people notice it besides you?
[02:57] <LDS_Trooper> brb
[02:57] <tvisto> But I wanted to ask : anyone knows a good enterprise resource planning solution for small companies?
[02:57] <tom__> tvisto: i'm not sure what that is :)
[02:57] <regebro> kitche: OK, thanks for the answer. It's not a refresh rate problem.
[02:57] <RasqualTwilight> jewbilee: is it a CRT or LCD monior?
[02:58] <tvisto> ah well somehting to keep track of documents, orders, and so on (basically try manage all in one program)
[02:58] <kitche> regebro: ok if it's not then that's what most of the anwsers you will get most likely even if you do a search
[02:58] <WaltzingAlong> how do i set the default xsession for new users (with ubuntu then install kubuntu-desktop, it gets set to kde, how to i pick gnome again as the default?)
[02:58] <osfameron> tvisto: dunno if GnuCash will do some/any of that... I think people tend to use SAGE don't they for certain sizes of small business at least
[02:59] <regebro> kitche: I know. But it's not a refresh rate flicker. The image really vibrates left-right.
[02:59] <WaltzingAlong> tvisto: gnucash has support for customers, vendors, and the like
[02:59] <IdleOne> regebro: could it be a faulty monitor perhaps? have you tried with a different one
[02:59] <jewbilee> Rasqual: its an LCD
[03:00] <jewbilee> why does that matter...
[03:00] <tvisto> well guys its not for customers
[03:00] <tvisto> just for us ourselves
[03:00] <tom__> tvisto: so it keeps track of lots of inhouse data for you
[03:00] <jrib> WaltzingAlong: sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[03:00] <tomassino> need help.....
[03:01] <tvisto> yes exactly: and also helps us process things like: ordering (for manufacturing)
[03:01] <Downix> dangit, SPARC64 only
[03:01] <tomassino> how do i edit xorg.conf
[03:01] <Downix> those of us with 32-bit get no love 8(  8)
[03:01] <tom__> tvisto: im not really sure but i can have a look
[03:01] <tvisto> no no its cool
[03:01] <LDS_Trooper> tvisto, this may not be what you are looking for, but would something like this help    http://live.gnome.org/Planner
[03:01] <whiskeytango> SATA and ATA use different connections to connect to motherboard, right?
[03:01] <tvisto> i will have a look myself: i really neede just answer if anyone actually used anything liek this
[03:01] <kitche> whiskeytango: yes
[03:02] <RasqualTwilight> jewbilee: does it also happen at other screen resolutions?
[03:02] <jewbilee> Can someone tell me how to access the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on a different harddrive
[03:02] <jewbilee> Rasqual... its a boot issue with grub, not video
[03:02] <walrus_RUS> whiskeytango: certainly
[03:02] <Pici> tomassino: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:02] <tom__> tvisto: i found this about erp software on linux
[03:02] <whiskeytango> Man, I just spent an hour driving to a friends house to get this damned ATA HDD and i got back and discovered that the HDD i have in there already is SATA :(
[03:02] <Downix> whiskeytango, ATA is an interconnect protocol that can occur over several different connections.  SATA is one, IDE is another.
[03:03] <tom__> tvisto: http://linux.about.com/b/a/129056.htm
[03:03] <whiskeytango> One uses a little connector and the other uses a big connector :D
[03:03] <jewbilee> How do I access a file stored on another harddrive?
[03:03] <MikeDX> IDE = PATA
[03:03] <kitche> Downix: IDE doesn't exist anymore well it does but it's known as PATA :)
[03:03] <tom__> tvisto: http://www-304.ibm.com/jct09002c/gsdod/scsolutiondetails.do?solutionId=26533&lc=en&usrcode=pub
[03:03] <tvisto> THAbks all for help I'llcheck it: unfortunaly have to run :(
[03:03] <Downix> MikeDX, IDE != PATA, but you can use IDE drives on a PATA system
[03:04] <assasukasse> hi all
[03:04] <tom__> tvisto: np i just google linux "resource planning"
[03:04] <assasukasse> when will openoffice 2.3 be available for ubuntu?
[03:04] <kitche> Downix: PATA does = IDE look it up
[03:04] <Downix> kitche, They work differently protocol-wise.  I just got done designing an ATA controller, main that was a pain
[03:04] <whiskeytango> Regardless, there are no conversion adapters or anything like that, correct?  So i will need to adapt my IDE/PATA/POS for use with a USB port, correct?
[03:04] <Downix> whiskeytango, they make adaptors from PATA to SATA, USB, Firewire, even SCSI
[03:04] <whiskeytango> Hmm..
[03:04] <jewbilee> Anyone, someone, this is an emergency, how do I access a file stored on another harddrive if it wont show up in the visual windows
[03:05] <regebro> sorry of somebody said anything, network problem (I moved rooms)
[03:05] <whiskeytango> Thank you.
[03:05] <MikeDX> Many synonyms and near-synonyms for ATA exist, including abbreviations such as IDE and ATAPI.
[03:05] <kitche> jewbilee: cd /media/<mountpoint>/<path>/to/file/
[03:05] <tomassino> Pici: so typed the command and i get a blank screen with some stuff on the bottom....(get hep, exit...and so on)
[03:05] <regebro> Anyway, I don't think my problem is a generic problem, but a specific problem, probably with the 915 chipset.
[03:06] <tomassino> Pici: what now????
[03:06] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee:  did you mount another harddisk ?
[03:06] <jewbilee> i dont know
[03:06] <Pici> tomassino: Are you sure you typed the location of the file correctly? Its case sensitive.
[03:06] <MikeDX> With the introduction of Serial ATA around 2003, conventional ATA was retroactively renamed to Parallel ATA (P-ATA), referring to the method in which data travels over wires in this interface.
[03:06] <jewbilee> I dont know its mountpoint
[03:06] <Downix> MikeDX, Too true, but they don't all work the same.  I have a basic IDE controller and an ATA controller, for two different jobs.  The irony for me is that the IDE wound up able to emulate ATA through software.
[03:06] <MikeDX> so yes, PATE DOES = IDE
[03:06] <kitche> !offtopic | MikeDX Downix
[03:06] <ubotu> MikeDX Downix: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:06] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee:  just type mount and it show you all mounted devices
[03:07] <MikeDX> kitche, with the greatest of respect, shut up
[03:07] <kitche> !coc | MikeDX
[03:07] <ubotu> MikeDX: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:07] <Downix> kitche, quite true.
[03:07] <tomassino> Pici: thanks.....works
[03:07] <jewbilee> mount worked but didnt show me anything about the HDD i need to access
[03:08] <atlfalcons866> how can i use dolphin as a file manager
[03:08] <kitche> atlfalcons866: install kde4
[03:08] <atlfalcons866> in gnome
[03:08] <atlfalcons866> instead of Nautilus
[03:08] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: do you know what device  name? /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb etc etc?
[03:09] <kitche> atlfalcons866: like I said install kde4 it depends on kde4 libs and such
[03:09] <Downix> I still need to get this SPARC up and in decent order
[03:09] <jewbilee> I can find out
[03:09] <jewbilee> hold on
[03:09] <Downix> Debian Sarge is a bit old
[03:09] <jewbilee> Its /dev/sda
[03:09] <atlfalcons866> kitche: isnt kde4 unstable
[03:09] <kitche> atlfalcons866: pretty much yes
[03:09] <Pici> atlfalcons866: Yes, and Dolphin is in KDE4.
[03:10] <wilson> i prefer konq to dolphin
[03:10] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: your another harddisk (that you need toaccess) is /dev/sda ?
[03:10] <atlfalcons866> I never had luck with kde
[03:10] <jewbilee> yes
[03:10] <atlfalcons866> its too much like windows
[03:10] <kitche> wilson: kinda funny since konq is not the same konq really in kde4 :)
[03:10] <Pici> atlfalcons866: Then why are you asking to use Dolphin?
[03:10] <atlfalcons866> Pici: because i dont like nautilus
[03:10] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee:  ok. make dir for mount point. Say, /mnt/anotherhard
[03:11] <jewbilee> ok
[03:11] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: mkdir /mnt/anotherhard
[03:11] <jewbilee> yea
[03:11] <jewbilee> then what
[03:11] <walrus_RUS> mount it.
[03:11] <Innomen> will true crypt be in the packages for the next version of ubuntu?
[03:11] <jewbilee> how
[03:11] <jewbilee> i dont know these commands that well
[03:11] <walrus_RUS> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/anotherhard
[03:11] <atlfalcons866> will my computer be faster with xfce?
[03:12] <atlfalcons866> #xubuntu
[03:12] <tom__> atlfalcons866: yeah xfce is really snappy
[03:13] <tom__> atlfalcons866: especially if you don't have much ram
[03:13] <atlfalcons866> tom_ what not much ram these days?
[03:13] <WaltzingAlong> 2GB
[03:14] <WaltzingAlong> hahah j/j
[03:14] <atlfalcons866> my computer ram is maxed out at 512mb
[03:14] <jewbilee> Walrus: that said I must specificy a file system type
[03:15] <CorpusCallosum> i setup apache php5 phpmyadmin mysql to my gutsy, i worked well, but today when restart my computer i doesnt work. Even i wrote sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart command. how can i activate again how can i fix that
[03:15] <atlfalcons866>  #ubuntu+1
[03:17] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee:  do you know what partition you need to access? sda1 could be a swap partition for instance
[03:17] <shonen> corpus have you checked the logs? i believe you may find a reason there
[03:17] <Innomen> is there a shortcut key for brining up a terminal?
[03:17] <jo1> ubotu !apm
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <jo1> ubotu !acpi
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <genii> I'm tempted to say ctrl-alt-f1
[03:18] <jewbilee> we need to access /dev/sda
[03:18] <walrus_RUS> Innomen: Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[03:18] <adaniels> hi, does anyone know where the beryl package has gone to? I can't find it. I'm using 7.10.
[03:18] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: i switch among xfce, kde, and fluxbox
[03:18] <shonen> Innomen, try going through System -> Preferences (i believe) -> Shortcuts, has all the different shortcuts
[03:18] <kitche> adaniels: beryl is decrapted use compiz
[03:18] <WaltzingAlong> !beryl | adaniels
[03:18] <ubotu> adaniels: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:19] <jewbilee> but when I do sudo mount /dev/sda i get a Unknown filesystem type -promise_fasttrack_raid_member-
[03:19] <vaisami> Are there any programs like AutoCAD to Ubuntu?
[03:19] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: /dev/sda is a whole device. It must be seaprated to several partition.
[03:19] <Innomen> shonen: thank you, it was in there
[03:19] <jewbilee> im not sure
[03:19] <whiskeytango> when 7.10 comes out i wont need to format over everything and start from scratch, will I?
[03:19] <jewbilee> which partition then
[03:19] <WaltzingAlong> vaisami: like qcad?
[03:19] <adaniels> kitche: compiz doesn't have the cube and i can really configure anything with compiz
[03:19] <WaltzingAlong> !info qcad | vaisami
[03:19] <ubotu> vaisami: qcad: A professional CAD System. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1-2 (feisty), package size 2950 kB, installed size 12596 kB
[03:19] <kitche> whiskeytango: no just update as usual
[03:19] <shonen> np, id like to point out you can set it to WHATEVER you want Innomen ^_^
[03:19] <ndube> adaniels: compiz has the cube
[03:19] <kitche> adaniels: it does have the cube you just have to enable it with tons of plugins
[03:19] <whiskeytango> thank you.  love you guys, be back in a few hours.
[03:20] <Bereanone> help a noobie with total system lockup/crash ubuntu gutsy
[03:20] <Innomen> shonen: it was disbaled by default, i set it to alt f3
[03:20] <adaniels> kitche: ok i'll have another look
[03:20] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: promise_fasttrack_raid_member??
[03:20] <adaniels> thnx
[03:20] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | Bereanone:
[03:20] <ubotu> Bereanone:: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[03:20] <kitche> adaniels: beryl is based on compiz which merged with compiz-extras to becoem compiz-fusion
[03:20] <jewbilee> i have 2 HDD in raid
[03:20] <jewbilee> that when i installed ubuntu on
[03:20] <shonen> haha cool my friend uses Alt+F1, dunno why. He uses a different window manager than gnome so it's wierd.
[03:20] <jewbilee> got the Vista MBR overwritten
[03:20] <shonen> weird*
[03:20] <Bereanone> tx
[03:20] <jewbilee> I need to access the grub bootmenu on them
[03:20] <jewbilee> but I cant navigate to them
[03:20] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: it looks like a part of hardware raid.
[03:21] <jewbilee> it is raided
[03:21] <jewbilee> with another hdd
[03:21] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: I very doubt you get access to this partition out of hardware raid
[03:21] <Yumyu> hi, could someone help me please, i got a question : is there a way to collect email from *sender* adresses from all email within Thunderbird or Eudora ?
[03:22] <WaltzingAlong> Yumyu: what do you mean collect?
[03:22] <shonen> isn't when you place two drives into an array they become one large drive? do the partitions actually hold up?
[03:22] <jewbilee> walrus: theres got to be a way
[03:22] <Yumyu> i mean get a list
[03:22] <WaltzingAlong> Yumyu: just to obtain a list of all the senders of the various email messages?
[03:22] <soundray> Yumyu: just sort by sender
[03:22] <vaisami> OK.. thanks.. where I can found this qCAD? or is it free?
[03:22] <Yumyu> yes
[03:22] <WaltzingAlong> vaisami: sudo aptitude install qcad
[03:22] <Yumyu> i need to be able to export that list
[03:22] <Innomen> has anyone here used truecrypt for ubuntu?
[03:23] <genii> Hmm. Ubotu's beryl lookup neds to be appended to note beryl is now compiz-fusion
[03:23] <Yumyu> not just see it
[03:23] <KoweSix> yes Innomen but got problems with it :p
[03:23] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: what is 'dmraid -r'  output?
[03:23] <soundray> Yumyu: highlight them, right-click and look at the context menu
[03:23] <Innomen> KoweSix: would you please help me figure out how to mount this drive? i've never used it before and my weakness with linux in general is making the help, simply incomprehensible
[03:24] <KoweSix> innomen: which filesystem is your encrypted drive?
[03:24] <Yumyu> soundray: there's nothing interested, i dont need to export the emails messages, just the sender email adresses
[03:25] <Everlong> does anyone know how to use the recovery boot option...i think i screwed up and i can't see my desktop now
[03:25] <vaisami> WaltzingAlong: OK.. thanks a lot.. soon i can stop using windows at all :)
[03:25] <Innomen> KoweSix: its a 300gb drive fully encrypted, when mounted and decrypted i think it mgiht be fat32, but i'm not sure, if i cant mount it, does it matter?
[03:25] <jewbilee> Wlarus: it sayd dmraid is not currently installed
[03:25] <shonen> mounting is as simple as mount -t filetype /file/extention  /folder/you/want/to/mountto but i think you're doing something a bit more different lol
[03:25] <soundray> Yumyu: I see. That's better done on the command line.
[03:25] <simu> hello, I have a strange problem using ubuntu 7.04 server for x64 architecture: cups, syslog and exim to panic from time to time. I analyzed the problem and found that the probelm are wrong permissions on /dev/null, it happens at ~6:30 every morning and in the eveaning at ~17:00
[03:25] <Innomen> shonen: was that meant for me?
[03:26] <shonen> yeah sorry forgot your name ^_^
[03:26] <shonen> forgot to add it lol
[03:26] <KoweSix> !pastebin
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <Innomen> shonen:  i believe there is confusion for me because mount is a linux term and a truecrypt term
[03:26] <Yumyu> is there any open source software that would do the work? to collect all email adresses in the sender field within an mbox, for example?
[03:26] <simu> the wrong pemissions are reset every day and are set to 600 instead of 666
[03:26] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: you need to install dmraid. Then run 'dmraid -ay' (it activates your hardware raid). then look what is new device name. then mount this new device. then edit your files
[03:26] <Pici> Yumyu: you probably could do it with a bunch of greps and seds.
[03:27] <jewbilee> we cant install dmraid
[03:27] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is the English name of the followeing menu item: Gnome NetworkManager applet (left-click) > Manual configuration > network settings > links >  wire link > 'Roaming-mode activated'?
[03:27] <RvGaTe^work> i have a problem starting the installer for a Compaq NC6400 laptop... when booting, it fails to start X giving the error... no screens found... then gives me a message from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"Ubuntu kernel: [ 109.640000]  calling WQBA" any ideas how to fix this...
[03:27] <atlfalcons866> will ubuntu run on my old powerpc g4
[03:27] <jewbilee> were running off of the live CD
[03:27] <soundray> Yumyu: yes. You need to do it on the command line with a combination of grep, sort and uniq
[03:27] <KoweSix> Innomen:  already installed it?!
[03:27] <Stevethepirate> Hi, my X is broken, like won't start up. I'm in gutsy, but #ubuntu+1 is not helping :P ...
[03:27] <adaniels> ubotu: how can i configure compiz? I have the 'compiz-plugin', 'compiz-fusion-plugins-main' and 'compiz-fusion-plugins-extra' installed.
[03:27] <Innomen> KoweSix: yes
[03:28] <shonen> have you done a man truecrypt Innomen? im looking at their man page right now
[03:28] <Innomen> kowesix: truecrypt [OPTIONS]  VOLUME_PATH [MOUNT_DIRECTORY]  i dont understand "mount directory"
[03:28] <KoweSix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40253/
[03:28] <shonen> mount directory is where you want to "mount the drive"
[03:28] <Innomen> shonen: yes and it might as well be greek, i dont understand the very basics yet
[03:28] <shonen> like on ubuntu say i want it on my desktop
[03:28] <Stevethepirate> on startup, pc goes into low graphics mode, even though i configured it...
[03:28] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: we need the log and the conf  /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:29] <Everlong> is there anyone who can help me with the recovery mode...? I'd apreciate the help
[03:29] <soundray> Yumyu: for example, 'grep ^From: Inbox | cut -d " " -f 2- | sort | uniq >~/temp-fromaddresses'
[03:29] <Innomen> shonen: desktop would be fine, anywhere
[03:29] <shonen> where i have a folder called encrypted-drive well just give the path to that folder, innomen
[03:29] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: i can't really give the whole log.. i'm on irssi...
[03:29] <Innomen> creating folder now
[03:29] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: is there a way i can get it to you?
[03:29] <KoweSix> i'm not an unix expert neither :p
[03:29] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: just look through the log for errors  (EE)
[03:29] <shonen> that should work
[03:29] <Innomen> shonen: folder made :)
[03:29] <adaniels> how can i configure compiz? I have the 'compiz-plugin', 'compiz-fusion-plugins-main' and 'compiz-fusion-plugins-extra' installed. But I don't have the cube, nor any configuration windows. I can only disable/enable/enable+xtra it.
[03:29] <Stevethepirate> kk
[03:30] <shonen> ok now try truecrypt [whatever options you want]  VOLUME_PATH MOUNT_DIR
[03:30] <shonen> and see what happens
[03:30] <shonen> worst it can do is say no
[03:30] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: sorry it's out of  my knowledge.
[03:30] <RvGaTe^work> anyone ?
[03:30] <Innomen> shonen: yes but what do i tell truecrypt? can you build an example command for me, the man tell ms thier function not the syntax
[03:30] <Pici> adaniels: Feisty or Gutsy?
[03:30] <KoweSix> Innomen:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40253/
[03:30] <soylent> hi, which package contains the 'mail' command? (someone with ubuntu >=7.04 maybe just type it in, the package will be given then) thx :)
[03:30] <Everlong> anyone?
[03:30] <Innomen> shonen:  see, thats what i dont understand [bracket talk]
[03:31] <adaniels> Pici: Gutsy
[03:31] <shonen> sorry
[03:31] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: have you tried the Safe Graphics boot option?
[03:31] <Pici> adaniels: Can you join #ubuntu+1 please.
[03:31] <KoweSix> for example i mount my containerfiles with "truecrypt /media/disk-1/Documents1.TC /media/disk-2"
[03:31] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, yes, same problem
[03:31] <shonen> here you go is the sytanx from Truecrypts site innomen, http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/, scroll to the bottom they have some examples
[03:31] <berent> !qmake
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <berent> how to install qmake
[03:32] <Innomen> KoweSix: thank you thats exactly what i'm after
[03:32] <walrus_RUS> berebt qmake is part of qt
[03:32] <MikeDX> !search qmake
[03:32] <ubotu> Found:
[03:32] <Innomen> shonen: go look please
[03:32] <MikeDX> qt-utils or summat isnt it
[03:32] <shonen> yeah
[03:32] <Yumyu> sound: ok thanks
[03:32] <KoweSix> but i can just read from my files when i mounted them... dunno why, but maybe its because of ntfs :p
[03:32] <MikeDX> install the ntfs driver then whats it called now.. not the 3g one, the other one
[03:32] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: only occurence of '(EE)' in /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the '(EE) indicates an error' at the top...
[03:33] <Samuli^> why not ntfs-3g?
[03:33] <Innomen> how do i find out "my volume" ?
[03:33] <MikeDX> theres another one called fusion or something
[03:33] <Innomen> i'm looking at the properties for the drive, but i dont see what i'm supposed ot type
[03:33] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, any ideas ?
[03:33] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: to reconfigure x          sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:34] <Innomen> so far i've got "truecrypt yourvolume /desktop/encrypted-drive"
[03:34] <Samuli^> Innomen, if you're running feisty you probably want to install ntfs-config
[03:34] <Pici> !fuse | MikeDX
[03:34] <ubotu> MikeDX: FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[03:34] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: one way would be to install in text mode using the alternate CD. Afterwards you can change the graphics driver to intel with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[03:35] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, so the ati drivers wont work? it has an ati gfx card integrated...
[03:35] <Innomen> KoweSix: ""truecrypt yourvolume /desktop/encrypted-drive"" how do i figure out "your volume" i see the drive i want to mount in "computer"
[03:35] <MikeDX> aha!
[03:35] <MikeDX> now it makes sense
[03:35] <joelito> Hi, anyone using else radeon getting problems?
[03:35] <L0GAN> good day
[03:35] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: okay, reconfigured
[03:36] <Stevethepirate> must i restart gdm now?
[03:36] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate:  sure sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:36] <Innomen> linux dosent use drive letters
[03:36] <Innomen> how do i tell it which drive to mount?
[03:36] <shonen> Innomen, if you see the drive in "computer" try to find out the filepath to that drive and use that as yourvolume
[03:36] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: same error
[03:37] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: which video card? which module (driver)?
[03:37] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: oh, you've got the version with the ATI card.
[03:37] <L0GAN> anyone got info how to have a ubuntu version for on USB stick that can be boot from USB?
[03:37] <Innomen> shonen: would "mount point" be it?
[03:37] <Stevethepirate> looks like its changing resolution
[03:37] <Stevethepirate> but then hanges
[03:37] <L0GAN> I tried soem tutorial yesterday but almost every step didnt work
[03:37] <Stevethepirate> nvidia 7600gt
[03:37] <redguy_work> Does anybody know how to make LTSP terminal logins appear in utmp?
[03:37] <shonen> does it say mount point on it Innomen? i would say yes
[03:37] <Innomen> /media/disk-1
[03:38] <Innomen> ok thank you both
[03:38] <Innomen> attempting
[03:38] <WaltzingAlong> Steve
[03:38] <Everlong> does anyone know how to change options using the console in the recovery mode?
[03:38] <Stevethepirate> Yeah.
[03:38] <shonen> i hope it works for you Innomen
[03:38] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate:  gtg now but keep at it, you will get it
[03:38] <KoweSix> :]
[03:38] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: sighs.. you gonna return ? :P
[03:38] <genii> Innomen: mount point is where it attaches or splices the drive into your directory structure. so if you mount a drive at directory /media/somewhere    then that dir is where you see the contents of the drive you mounted
[03:39] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: you could also boot as far as it goes, then switch to console mode with Ctrl-Alt-F2. From there you can reconfigure X like I said -- try both the VESA and the ATI drivers. Restart X with sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[03:39] <soundray> Everlong: you have to edit the config file in question with nano
[03:39] <shonen> genii is the genius round these thar parts Innomen. lol im on my windows box so i actually can't walk through it with you listen well :-P
[03:40] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, trying to start the installer... there is nothing to boot... so im downloading the alternative installer first
[03:40] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: hold on
[03:40] <Eva_> hello everybody. had a question not directly linked to ubuntu but this is the channel i am closest to.
[03:40] <genii> shonen: Well, you over-rate me. But i may be able to help
[03:40] <Stevethepirate> !ask
[03:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:41] <Eva_> if a machine is not a finite state machine, what is it ?
[03:41] <shonen> ^_^ genii, everyone needs a little boost every once in awhile haha
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> What the .... question is that?
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> thats a comp sci question
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> like.
[03:41] <walrus_RUS> Eva_:  may be car
[03:41] <L0GAN> I try asking in the #Linux channel
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> _nothing_ to linux
[03:41] <Eva_> because i was personally thinking that a machine always has a state
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> like, even remotely.
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> No.
[03:41] <Eva_> i mean even everything has a state , no ?
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> Wait
[03:41] <shonen> then it's it has non-deterministic states i would believe Eva. correct?
[03:41] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: your installer boots fine, it's just X that won't start. So do as I said, boot the CD as far as it will go and try to get a command line.
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> A FSM is like a tree structure
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> dude
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> wait
[03:42] <Eva_> shonen, i am not sure, trying to learn myself
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSM
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> maybe
[03:42] <Everlong> soundray: i'm sorry...didn't get it...newbie
[03:42] <shonen> gah, i had to talk about this in my mathmatical foundations of computer science
[03:42] <Pici> !offtopic | Eva_
[03:42] <ubotu> Eva_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:42] <shonen> are you doing AUtomata Emva?
[03:42] <shonen> err Eva
[03:43] <soundray> Everlong: what are you trying to fix?
[03:43] <Eva_> Stevethepirate, been to the wiki page already but doesnt say what it is not
[03:43] <Shmattie> Anyone have ideas on bug 144247? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/144247
[03:43] <Eva_> Pici, i know but some people are interested
[03:43] <genii> Innomen: If you did the command i gave earier: sudo fdisk -l      it would have listed all the drives on your system. they will have names like /dev/sda1 or /dev/hdb2   or so on like this. If there is a usable filesystem on the drive it can be mounted into a directory such as /media/somewhere like i just described. then you can see the contents of the drive when you list or visit that directory
[03:43] <Eva_> shonen, yeah automaton
[03:43] <Pici> Eva_: Okay, well, those interested people are also offtopic.
[03:43] <Everlong> soundray: I tried to use that "desktop effects" option but my video card mustn't suppsort it
[03:43] <L0GAN> i never used ubuntu before
[03:44] <soundray> Eva_: then you AND the people interested are wrong in this place
[03:44] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is the English name of the followeing menu item: Gnome NetworkManager applet (left-click) > Manual configuration > network settings > links >  wire link > 'Roaming-mode activated'?
[03:44] <shriphani> I want to know the best utilities available for podcasting.
[03:44] <Eva_> Pici, lol
[03:44] <L0GAN> is there a place to get help?
[03:44] <Everlong> soundray: and now it's all white
[03:44] <Stevethepirate> Thats like saying 'every choice in life can be put into a tree structure'
[03:44] <Stevethepirate> it may be true
[03:44] <shonen> lol sorry Eva, im in offtopic too :-P haha i don't have my book on me. sorry man
[03:44] <Stevethepirate> but who cares?
[03:44] <Everlong> soundray: it's working but i donn't see anything
[03:44] <Zapt> hi
[03:44] <Zapt> when can I download the release candidate?
[03:44] <soundray> Everlong: but you can boot in recovery mode and get a command line?
[03:45] <shriphani> I tried audacity and whatever I record seems to be equipped with a high pitched noise in the background.
[03:45] <genii> Zapt: The link is in topic of channel #ubuntu+1
[03:45] <L0GAN> well maybe I should look at another version
[03:45] <Zapt> ok
[03:45] <regebro> Update: Dropping the bitdepth to 16 bits seem to have worked.
[03:46] <soundray> L0GAN: you could also just ASK your question
[03:46] <MrEgg964> Hi, I'm trying to connect to my router/vpn remotely. What would be an equivalent of SSH Sentinel ? TIA
[03:46] <Innomen> shonen: ok, trying the second dirve, this one cannot mount, but it is seen in computer, how do i point to it without mounting it for purposes of the truecrypt command line?
[03:47] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, same thing after the reconfigure...
[03:47] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: what did you do after the reconfigure?
[03:47] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, i tried to put in the values as far as i know, and selected the vesa driver
[03:47] <Everlong> soundray: when i'm choosing the OS in Grub there is the Ubuntu, Windows and Ubuntu...(recovery mode)
[03:48] <Innomen> KoweSix: ok, trying the second dirve, this one cannot mount, but it is seen in computer, how do i point to it without mounting it for purposes of the truecrypt command line?
[03:48] <walrus_RUS> MrEgg964: ssh sentinel is windows ssh client?
[03:48] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: and when you were done with the configuration, how did you restart X?
[03:48] <shonen> Innomen, is it giving an error when trying to mount
[03:48] <Innomen> or, how is an unmounted volume designated for command line purposes?
[03:48] <d1n0> Can anyone here help me? I've got hd2400 video card, got picture on both the lcd screen and the tv, but the picture is cloned... how can i extend my desktop to the tv? I'm running Xubuntu, and YES i HAVE tried for DAYS to get an answer at #xubuntu, but that channel is as dead as jesus christ........
[03:48] <Innomen> shonen: yes
[03:48] <MrEgg964> walrus_RUS: yes, where I can set my remote server ip, pre-shared key, etc.
[03:48] <soundray> Everlong: yes, I know that. I'm asking, do you get a command line in recovery mode or not?
[03:48] <shonen> Innomen: Error please ^_^
[03:48] <Innomen> shonen: this is a good sign
[03:49] <Innomen> no, please just answer the question
[03:49] <ibob63> I need to find a word with a group of files within a folder. Can anyone tell me which command is best?
[03:49] <genii> Innomen: An unmounted volume only exists as a /dev entry until you mount it someplace
[03:49] <Everlong> soundray: yes, yes I do
[03:49] <KoweSix> just copy&paste the error line -.-
[03:49] <shonen> yeah, what genii said Innomen
[03:49] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, please... im not stupid, im a good reader... i used the stuff you said
[03:49] <soundray> Everlong: are you chatting on another machine?
[03:49] <Innomen> genii: cool, how would i find out what the dev entry is for this drive?
[03:49] <Hoosteen> hiya all...i've got compiz installed and my volumes are not showing on my desktop..i went into gconf and ticked the show volumes but they still aren't showing up..any ideas?
[03:49] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: I can't make that assumption before I know you :)
[03:50] <shonen> will fdisk show all partions, genii?
[03:50] <KoweSix> disk by path
[03:50] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, now you know :)
[03:50] <Everlong> soundray: nope, on windows,but i'll take notes :p
[03:50] <L0GAN> soundray : i tried yesterday when i was on ubuntu live
[03:50] <walrus_RUS> MrEgg964: in linux you can use just 'ssh'
[03:50] <L0GAN> im now on windows atm
[03:50] <genii> Innomen: You can normally deduce what drive it is by examining output of: sudo fdisk -l    which shows all drives, mounted or otherwise. then the command: mount   by itself shows you which drives are already mounted.
[03:50] <Innomen> fdisk -l did it
[03:50] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i add/install my scanner to ubuntu?
[03:51] <soundray> Everlong: run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and set the graphics driver to VESA. For everything else, accept the defaults. Then enter reboot.
[03:51] <walrus_RUS> MrEgg964: just type 'ssh yourname@yourserverIP '
[03:51] <MrEgg964> walrus_RUS: from terminal ?  I'm going on holiday for a few weeks but I want a fresh and up to date ubuntu installation
[03:51] <Everlong> soundray: ok, that's it? =)
[03:52] <Innomen> "truecrypt /dev/sdb2 /desktop/encrypted-drive"
[03:52] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: I think your best option is to get the alternate CD. Then you can at least install a CLI-based system. Maybe the graphics will even work "out of the box" after an alternate install.
[03:52] <genii> Innomen: since i don't use trucrypt i may not be much help with that particular program.
[03:52] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i add/install my scanner to ubuntu?
[03:52] <Innomen> Cannot open volume: No such file or directory
[03:52] <Innomen> genii: you've already been very helpful, thank you
[03:53] <shonen> Pirate_Hunter, have you tried just pluggin the Scanner in?
[03:53] <Hoosteen> hiya all...i've got compiz installed and my volumes are not showing on my desktop..i went into gconf and ticked the show volumes but they still aren't showing up..any ideas?
[03:53] <Innomen> so in order for truecrypte to see the drive it MUST be mounted
[03:53] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, will try that.. burning the cd as we speak
[03:53] <shonen> Alot of hardware is recognized just instantly.
[03:53] <Pirate_Hunter> shonen: yeha it should pick up automatically but i have no clue how to work with it from ubuntu
[03:53] <gorski> I cannot enter phpmyadmin. what does this mean, how to correct it: /var/www/phpmyadmin/.htaccess: Option FollowSymLinks not allowed here
[03:53] <seppe> I have an ati card, when I do an installation of Gutsy .. will it use the fglrx+XGL+compiz fusion combo? or the ati+aiglx+compiz fusion combo?
[03:54] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: Applications -> Graphics -> XSane Image Scanner
[03:54] <shonen> you should be able to see it if it's been installed correctly in i believe System
[03:54] <genii> Innomen: According to http://hype-free.blogspot.com/2007/04/installing-and-using-truecrypt-on.html    truecrypt needs the drive fs specified as FAT whether it is or not
[03:54] <Innomen> shonen: the mount error says bad "fs" type
[03:54] <Innomen> genii: can i do that without writing to the disk itself?
[03:54] <Pirate_Hunter> dave__: thanx
[03:54] <Jammer> seppe, afaik Gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: np :)
[03:54] <seppe> Jammer: thx!
[03:54] <shonen> Innomen, fs means filesystem. it can't use that type.
[03:54] <Pirate_Hunter> dave__: wow too many options dont even know where to start
[03:55] <Innomen> shonen: well its encrypted, i has no file type, its gibberish
[03:55] <autodidakt> hi, i cant mount my cdrom right now dont know why. if i type mount /media/cdrom i get an error
[03:55] <belkar> Hello. I just bought a new laptop, and I would like to use Gutsy once it is released. My question is: Will I have a better Gutsy installation if I wait until it is oficially released, or coud I try to install the beta or Feisty now and upgrade when it is possible? If so, should I choose the Gutsy beta or Feisty? Thanks a lot for your time and work.
[03:56] <genii> Innomen: In truecrypt i am not certain. normally for a regular mount command you would specify filesystem type like:   mount -t fat  /dev/sdX /mountpoint
[03:56] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: :).  Generally the process is to acquire a preview, then drag a rectangle to select what area you want, then scan, then save
[03:56] <MikeDX> I still use edgy...
[03:56] <steel_lady> I need to find people from a specific city in a specific town and the only way I know how to accomplish what I nees id through some particular chat that I can not visit because linux is incapable of visualising the page
[03:56] <Innomen> genii: does that write to the volume header?
[03:56] <soundray> belkar: either way, you will end up with the same system. It may be worth creating a new user once you've updated to the release version.
[03:56] <Pirate_Hunter> dave__: i click scan but it dont scan yet it detects scanner.. whats going on?
[03:56] <Innomen> i wish i could flip a read only switch on this disk
[03:57] <Pici> steel_lady: Is there a question there?
[03:57] <genii> Innomen: This does not make fat filesystem on drive or alter any partition things etc etc, just tells linux what sort of fs to expect to try and read from that device
[03:57] <Innomen> ahhh good
[03:57] <Innomen> ok
[03:57] <MikeDX> steel_lady: ie6 runs in linux at a push :)
[03:57] <belkar> Thanks a lot, soundray. Then I'll create a temporal user until Gusty comes =)
[03:57] <Innomen> genii: can you walk me through the option you presented above?
[03:57] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: hm, not sure sorry.  Is there a preview button anywhere?
[03:57] <steel_lady> Pici, yes, do you have any idea how to log in to the page?
[03:58] <Pici> !ies4linux > steel_lady (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:58] <steel_lady> MikeDX I think I need shockwave
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> dave__: havent found it yet :(
[03:58] <Innomen> genii: mounting the volume and telling ubuntu that it is fat32 (is that what you said it wanted) ?
[03:58] <genii> Innomen: to break down what is happening in the sample mount command?
[03:58] <Pici> steel_lady: You could try that, its internet explorer in wine
[03:58] <MikeDX> i dont think shockwave works in IE in wine :(
[03:58] <genii> Innomen: The truecrypt howto i found for Feisty says truecrypt expects fat filesystem no matter what it actually is
[03:58] <Innomen> /dev/sdb2 is the unmounted volume in question
[03:59] <miles8> Can anyone recommend an simple way to throttle / limit the bandwidth to a particular ip?
[03:59] <Innomen> genii: how would i mount /dev/sdb2 as a FAT volume?
[03:59] <henrix> can anyone tell me whether it is possible to install ubuntu on a sparc32 box (I have an old ss20)?
[03:59] <brobostigon> mount -f vfat
[03:59] <MikeDX> mount /dev/sdb2 /mount/point -f vfat
[03:59] <gorski> I cannot enter phpmyadmin. what does this mean, how to correct it: /var/www/phpmyadmin/.htaccess: Option FollowSymLinks not allowed here
[04:00] <steel_lady> Pici, but it is not IE, I need shockwave
[04:00] <autodidakt> hi, i cant mount my cdrom right now dont know why. if i type mount /media/cdrom i get an error
[04:00] <Innomen> MikeDX: please give me a safe /mount/point
[04:00] <Pici> steel_lady: There is no version of shockwave for linux.  You also could try installing firefox in wine and installing shockwave on that firefox.
[04:00] <MikeDX> make a folder in /media
[04:00] <MikeDX>  /media/disk
[04:00] <gorski> I cannot enter phpmyadmin. I get a 500 Internal Server Error. Somebody help?
[04:00] <gorski> please!
[04:00] <soundray> miles8: I haven't read this thread myself, but it may point you in the right direction: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7990
[04:01] <Innomen> mikedx: there is already a folder media/disk
[04:01] <genii> Innomen: to mount (normally) that then, if a dir like /media/fatdrive existed:    sudo mount -t <ostype> /dev/sdb2 /media/fatdrive    where <ostype> can be: msdos or vfat    for regular fat you want msdos as <ostype> for fat32 you want vfat
[04:01] <Pici> gorski: have you asked in #phpmyadmin ?
[04:01] <henrix> sparc32, anyone??
[04:01] <gorski> no, ok
[04:01] <soundray> !repeat | henrix
[04:01] <ubotu> henrix: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:01] <steel_lady> Pici, can you somehow chech is it the shockwave I need for displaying the second part of this page: http://www.terra.es/chat/salas/sala_6_72.htm
[04:02] <Pici> steel_lady: sure, hold on.
[04:02] <bidha2kbsd>  hi friends...i just facing strange problem..my virtualhost setup is okay..as i can browse them perfectly fine..from localserver..i.e with lynx or links..its show all virtualdomain correctly..also in same server i have dns server..which is also okay..but the problem is when i try to access the same virtual host from client pc  .. i get the default page of apache ..it happens only from outside my network (client side)..whats the issue is it the issue wit
[04:02] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: hmm, i don't have a scanner attached atm so I'm a bit useless sorry :|
[04:02] <MikeDX> Innomen: make a new folder then /media/my_mount
[04:02] <Innomen> Mikedx: it will not let me make a folder there
[04:03] <shonen> Innomen, have you sudo mkdir?
[04:03] <brobostigon> sudo mkdir
[04:03] <Innomen> i dont know the command line
[04:03] <shonen> Innomen, sudo mkdir /media/my_mount
[04:03] <Innomen> thats a big reason to log in as super user *glare*
[04:03] <Innomen> shonen: thank you
[04:03] <shonen> it'll prompt for password, you give it the root password
[04:03] <Innomen> it should do that in the gui
[04:03] <Innomen> anyway
[04:03] <soundray> shonen: the root password?
[04:03] <shonen> sudoers password :-P
[04:04] <MikeDX> no, its NOT the root password
[04:04] <shonen> sorry there is no real root in ubuntu
[04:04] <MikeDX> or the sudoers password
[04:04] <MikeDX> its YOUR OWN PASSWORD! :)
[04:04] <shonen> hahahaha technically he has to be in the sudoers file!
[04:04] <Innomen> mikedx: directory created
[04:04] <soundray> shonen: there is, but the account is locked.
[04:05] <MikeDX> well, technically you can just give root a password but lets not pick flies
[04:05] <Innomen> mikedx: ok, what now?
[04:05] <genii> Innomen: You may like to look at that page, http://hype-free.blogspot.com/2007/04/installing-and-using-truecrypt-on.html   the parts after the install details where it has about what filesystems and so on is informative.
[04:05] <Innomen> genii: i plan to abandon truecrypt afte ri save my data, if i can save it :(
[04:05] <bintut> hello all..
[04:05] <Pici> steel_lady: I dont get any chat window on mine, and I'm running firefox on Windows right now.  The FAQ (I guess, I dont speak/read spanish) http://www.terra.es/chat/aprende.htm says Flash 9.
[04:05] <genii> work, away from keyboard a few minutes
[04:06] <bintut> how do i disable NetworkManager?
[04:07] <MikeDX> now as root, do sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/my_mount -f vfat
[04:07] <Innomen>  mount /dev/sdb2 /media/my_mount with what swtiches to make it show as fat?
[04:07] <Innomen> just to confirm
[04:07] <soundray> bintut: sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[04:07] <Innomen> this will NOT write to the drive
[04:07] <steel_lady> Pici I have flash player 9 installed
[04:07] <shonen> no won't write to the drive
[04:07] <Innomen> ok
[04:07] <MikeDX> it will just let you see the files
[04:07] <MikeDX> it wont write anything
[04:07] <shonen> mount just let's ubuntu read it
[04:07] <shonen> that's all
[04:08] <MikeDX> you can add -o ro if you like
[04:08] <Pici> steel_lady: As do I.  Its not working for me on Windows either. I can't check IE here though.
[04:08] <bintut> soundray: that's a better idea.. :)
[04:08] <steel_lady> pici it is under the name flushplugin-nonfree. can it be that something is wrong with the instalation?
[04:08] <Pici> steel_lady: I doubt it.
[04:08] <Innomen> it didnt like that, the mount command spit a help thing at me like i gave it a syntax error
[04:08] <soundray> bintut: it will ask you to remove ubuntu-desktop as well. That's fine, it's just a metapackage.
[04:09] <genii> Innomen: Switch the "-f" to a -t
[04:10] <Innomen> mount: special device /dev/sdb2 does not exist
[04:10] <steel_lady> Pici, but I have problems with other pages also. For eg. infojobs.net
[04:10] <bintut> soundray: but it will not remove other packages?  will it not affect the entire behaviour of the desktop?
[04:10] <soundray> bintut: no, not at all.
[04:10] <bintut> ok
[04:11] <Innomen> genii: -t returned what i just psted
[04:11] <Pici> steel_lady: Perhaps its a firefox incompatibility, you could try in wine.
[04:11] <soundray> bintut: it makes a difference only if you decide to upgrade to gutsy one day.  What is the English name of the followeing menu item: Gnome NetworkManager applet (left-click) > Manual configuration > network settings > links >  wire link > 'Roaming-mode activated'?
[04:11] <Innomen> thank you all for your help by the way, this is MOSt important to me
[04:12] <bintut> soundray: actually, i'm running gutsy already.. :)
[04:12] <genii> Innomen: It would seem you need to find which drive device it actually needs, since it cannot find sdb2 in the list of devices
[04:12] <j0hn> Hey everybody. How do I do keyboard bindings? For example, I would love to have CTRL+ALT+DEL open the System Monitor...
[04:12] <Innomen> genii: but its right there in fdisk -l
[04:13] <soundray> bintut: well, same applies when you upgrade to HH
[04:13] <Innomen> genii: what do i do?
[04:13] <Ubersoldat> j0hn: gconf
[04:13] <bintut> soundray: yeah..
[04:13] <bintut> soundray: thanks.. :)
[04:13] <soundray> bintut: the hoarse horse or whatever it will be.
[04:13] <Pici> soundray: Hardy Heron
[04:13] <rjune> Is php-cups in gutsy?
[04:13] <genii> innomen: does:  ls /dev/sdb?      produce an output which shows sdb2 ?
[04:13] <soundray> Oh yeah, thanks Pici
[04:14] <Pici> rjune: you can look on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:14] <j0hn> Ubersoldat, i'm a newb with linux... isn't that a config file somwhere?
[04:14] <Ubersoldat> j0hn: type in a console gconf-editor
[04:15] <j0hn> thanks
[04:15] <Innomen> genii: when i type "ls /dev/sdb" in a terminal, i get a yellow on black text print out of "/dev/sdb" and thats all
[04:15] <soundray> j0hn: hold on...
[04:15] <genii> innomen: use:  ls /dev/sdb?                           with the ?
[04:15] <soundray> j0hn: probably easier to go through System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts
[04:15] <Innomen> oky
[04:16] <Innomen> genii: It returns "ls: /dev/sdb?: No such file or directory"
[04:16] <darrint> Anyone know where to find a list of usb video cameras or digitizers that work well out of the box with feisty?
[04:16] <Innomen> so should i just mount without the 2?
[04:16] <Ubersoldat> soundray is right... Im just used to use gconf
[04:16] <Innomen> like... "sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/my_mount -f vfat"?
[04:16] <Pici> !webcam > darrint (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[04:16] <soundray> darrint: for digitizers, you should probably look at the sane project's compatibility list
[04:17] <MikeDX> if /dev/sdb doesnt exist, surely the bios hasnt picked it up
[04:17] <soundray> darrint: with webcams, the problem is that sometimes the internals change while the model name stays the same.
[04:17] <Innomen> mikedx: it shows in computer, a 279gb volume as it should
[04:17] <j0hn> Ubersoldat and soundray - thanks. gconf-editor looks more capable (for multiple tasks?), but Keyboard Shortcuts just seems easier for me to use so i'll try that.
[04:17] <darrint> Pici: Thanks. I hadn't seen those before.
[04:17] <darrint> soundray: Yes. I've seen that with wireless cards too.
[04:17] <MikeDX> Innomen: is it shown in the list when you do mount -l ?
[04:18] <soundray> j0hn: I'm not sure whether you can tie a key to System Monitor, though
[04:18] <Innomen> mikedx: and fdisk -l shows it as well, as /dev/sdb2
[04:18] <Innomen> mikedx: no
[04:18] <closcadura> hi
[04:18] <genii> Innomen: The device system is seeing only that drive exists but no partitioniong information to list subdevices like sdb1 sdb2 sdb<whatevernumber>     This can happen if you partitioned it recently but did not yet reboot for the system to see therere are partitions (why fdisk would list it but not appear in /dev)
[04:19] <obsolete> What's the best way to share files between linux and windows?
[04:19] <MikeDX> samba
[04:19] <closcadura> could someone paste me in a private window the result of "host mares.croac.name <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[04:19] <soundray> darrint: I always buy from dealers that give me a no-quibbles exchange without a restocking fee
[04:19] <soundray> obsolete: file system or network?
[04:19] <Innomen> genii: its encrytped, in true crypt, it always showed as unparitioned in windows
[04:19] <Innomen> the / system sucks compared to drive letters
[04:19] <Innomen> >:(
[04:19] <j0hn> soundray: is it possible to add new commands to they Keyboard Shortcuts?
[04:20] <genii> innomen: my workplace needs me for a few minutes but I'll return. ...lag Ah, yes it may be some idiosyncrasy then of trucrypt (which i am not that familiar with)
[04:20] <Innomen> genii: oky thanx
[04:21] <soundray> j0hn: it's not straightforward. Maybe have a look at the keytouch package
[04:21] <Innomen> god this is so frustrating! why cant there be a simple way to designate a device in the command line, or more simply why cant there be a gui for truecrypt linux like there is for windows *sigh*
[04:21] <soundray> !info keytouch | j0hn
[04:21] <ubotu> j0hn: keytouch: A program to configure the extra function keys of the keyboard. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.99+2.3.0beta4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 419 kB, installed size 1888 kB
[04:22] <j0hn> soundray: okay, i'll open synaptic and look into it
[04:22] <soundray> Innomen: you should put that question to the truecrypt developers, not to us.
[04:22] <obsolete> soundray: filesystem
[04:22] <Innomen> soundray: its rhetorical, they would not appreciate it, i'm just venting
[04:23] <soundray> obsolete: if you have admin powers in Windows, use ext3 and the ext2fsd Windows driver. If not, use fat32 (and backup carefully)
[04:23] <Innomen> i was right
[04:23] <Innomen> removing the 2 allowed it to mount
[04:23] <chippy> steel_lady still around? meh. http://chfl.terra.es/servicio/chatclient.swf?29112002
[04:23] <Innomen> or rather allowed truecrypt to see it
[04:23] <ndube> closcadura; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40261/
[04:24] <closcadura> ndube thanks!!
[04:24] <closcadura> see you
[04:24] <ndube> np
[04:24] <h0vding> I have some problems burning a .iso image.. first time I just used CD/DVD creator and everything worked perfectly.. but afther I have rebooted my computer it looks like it doesnt read my blank cd's or any other dvd cd.. anyway I could backdoor this with using terminal ? (commands)
[04:25] <MikeDX> cdroast is a command line client
[04:25] <Poromenos> how can i have ubuntu always update automatically, without asking at all?
[04:26] <kaushal> hi
[04:26] <fiXXXerMet> I have 424 folders inside of a folder and I want to cp all but 1 of them.  Is there any way to cp -r the parent folder but have it ignore a specified one?
[04:26] <kaushal> I have downloaded FF Browser <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:26] <Poromenos> fiXXXerMet: move the one you don't want out, cp, move back in :)
[04:26] <kaushal> how do i add it to the Applications/Internet
[04:26] <fiXXXerMet> Poromenos: Probably the easiest way :)
[04:26] <Poromenos> yep
[04:27] <soundray> kaushal: not at all. Install the ubuntu package instead.
[04:27] <kaushal> soundray where can i find it
[04:28] <Pici> kaushal: I believe <IP_ADDRESS> is the latest one in the repositories right now, but it will be updated.
[04:28] <h0vding> MikeDX: Im a linux noob can u tell my more about it ?
[04:28] <kaushal> I am running ubuntu 7.04 and FF <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:28] <soundray> kaushal: it's not out yet. Wait until it's out.
[04:28] <kaushal> :(
[04:28] <Pici> kaushal: Is there is a reason you need <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:29] <kaushal> yeah its stable and have new features :)
[04:29] <Pici> kaushal: Its just a security release.
[04:29] <kaushal> ok
[04:29] <soundray> kaushal: in other words, you don't know why.
[04:30] <fevel> hey guys
[04:30] <Innomen> does grub over write the same place as mbr?
[04:30] <fevel> im having trouble running beryl
[04:30] <genii> innomen: I am back. Give me a few minutes to google and read some info about truecrypt so that i will perhaps have a better understanding of it.
[04:30] <kaushal> is there a way to install FF <IP_ADDRESS> on ubuntu 7.04
[04:30] <fevel> I have installed it
[04:30] <Pici> kaushal: This is the only fix: http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2007/mfsa2007-28.html
[04:30] <fevel> but nothing happesn
[04:30] <Innomen> genii: here please look at this
[04:30] <MikeDX> h0vding: sure
[04:30] <frojnd> Is there any program that first loads movie and than u start it like on this page http://joox.net/cat/249/id/1435932   U need a program that support .divx formats. I've tryed with vlc and totem but they stopes when there is'n enough data loaded... I wanna a player similar to youtube. Where u see movie is being loaded.  If u have low internet speed u can first start load it and than play it. So any program that allows buffering like in youtube
[04:30] <frojnd>  ??
[04:30] <Innomen> http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?p=36425#36425
[04:30] <MikeDX> h0vding: sudo apt-get install cdroast, man cdroast
[04:30] <soundray> kaushal: not at the moment, but it's a matter of hours.
[04:30] <fevel> I have the diamond next to the clock
[04:30] <kaushal> oh ok
[04:30] <h0vding> kk thx Il look into it
[04:30] <Pici> kaushal: The vulnerability only exists on Windows computers, the update is trivial on Linux.
[04:30] <kaushal> Thanks soundray
[04:31] <Innomen> genii: sorry, http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?p=36425#36425 that is exactly my situation
[04:31] <kaushal> soundray so when is it going to be updated
[04:31] <kaushal> as you said few hours
[04:31] <h0vding> MikeDX: E: Couldn't find package cdroast
[04:31] <genii> Innomen: OK, reading etc
[04:31] <Pici> kaushal: Did you read my response?
[04:31] <MikeDX> !search cdroast
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: burners
[04:31] <kaushal> yeah
[04:31] <MikeDX> !search burners
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: cdrw, burners, burn, burner, burning
[04:31] <Innomen> except, it was mispoint grub root/setups that did it
[04:31] <MikeDX> hmm
[04:31] <MikeDX> i dunno what the package is
[04:31] <Innomen> gah
[04:31] <fevel> can someone please help me
[04:32] <soundray> kaushal: come back when you have a *real* problem.
[04:32] <kaushal> thanks
[04:32] <genii> Innomen: That site requires a login which i'm not inclined to sign up for right now
[04:32] <h0vding> can someone give me a link or tell me a way to burn bootable .iso files with commands ?
[04:32] <MikeDX> h0vding: sudo apt-get install cdrecord, man cdrecord
[04:32] <CoCHnSexSby> helo
[04:32] <soundray> !please > fevel
[04:32] <soundray> !enter > fevel
[04:33] <Innomen> genii: thats fine, can i paste something to your privately? do you see my current pm?
[04:33] <soundray> !burniso > h0vding, please read the private message from ubotu
[04:33] <h0vding> MikeDX: got same message
[04:33] <h0vding> thanks soundray I'll have a look
[04:33] <rjune> Pici: thanks. it's not in there
[04:34] <genii> innomen: No, no pm shows. Likely your name is not registered on freenode yet
[04:34] <h0vding> hmm
[04:34] <CoCHnSexSby> any person with cam here?
[04:34] <Innomen> oh it it, let me log in
[04:34] <MikeDX> really??
[04:34] <proteus_> q
[04:34] <fevel> ok thank you
[04:34] <MikeDX> oh you ned the multiverse enabled
[04:34] <h0vding> my I need to try to burn it with commands because now for some reason it doesnt read any of my dvd cd's...
[04:34] <Innomen> see it now?
[04:34] <MikeDX> do you know how to do that
[04:34] <MikeDX> !multiverse > h0vding
[04:34] <genii> Innomen: I have found the online manpage, reading it now
[04:35] <h0vding> kk
[04:35] <MikeDX> dunno is that worked
[04:35] <Innomen> genii: oky
[04:35] <h0vding> it owrked. so Ill check
[04:35] <soundray> h0vding: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning
[04:36] <asfak> how can i play gsm files in ubuntu ?
[04:36] <soundray> asfak: what are they?
[04:36] <frojnd> Is there any program that first loads movie and than u start it like on this page http://joox.net/cat/249/id/1435932   U need a program that support .divx formats. I've tryed with vlc and totem but they stopes when there is'n enough data loaded... I wanna a player similar to youtube. Where u see movie is being loaded.  If u have low internet speed u can first start load it and than play it. So any program that allows buffering like in youtube
[04:36] <frojnd>  ??
[04:36] <soundray> asfak: voice audio?
[04:36] <genii> innomen: Hmm. did you already do something like: truecrypt /dev/somedevice /somemountdirectory         ?
[04:37] <asfak> yes
[04:37] <Innomen> genii: yes and it returns incorrect pass or not TC volume
[04:37] <soundray> !info sweep | asfak
[04:37] <CoCHnSexSby> hey ALL
[04:37] <ubotu> asfak: sweep: An editor for sound samples. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 510 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[04:37] <CoCHnSexSby> any girl have webcam?
[04:37] <soundray> CoCHnSexSby: please don't do this. This is a support channel for ubuntu.
[04:37] <Innomen> genii: i pasted you the solution from the forum
[04:38] <Pici> frojnd: I usually download the .divx files and play them with vlc, they will open before they are finished downloading.
[04:38] <asfak> i could play that using Zgsmplay in shell, but i wan't to play that in firefox. i wil try sweep
[04:39] <asfak> frojnd, i can play that in my kubuntu using mozilla-mplayer plugin
[04:39] <lionel_hutz> hi.  I'm trying to install the newest version of pidgin, but don't know how.  I've downloaded the source, but don't know what to do with it.  any advice?
[04:39] <frojnd> asfak: thanx
[04:40] <chippy> you will need to compile and then install it lionel_hutz
[04:40] <soundray> lionel_hutz: which version of ubuntu?
[04:40] <chippy> have a look in the file called readme in the folder that the source is in
[04:41] <lionel_hutz> 7.04
[04:41] <ipx> lionel_hutz: www.getdeb.net <- download the ubuntu package there :)
[04:41] <Downix> egads, can't find a distro that likes my CPU
[04:41] <ipx> Its a double-click install
[04:41] <Innomen> thanks guys
[04:43] <h0vding> how to boot with a .iso file ?
[04:43] <h0vding> without burning it.
[04:43] <soundray> lionel_hutz: can you wait for a week and upgrade to gutsy (7.10)?
[04:44] <lionel_hutz> ipx: that's a handy site.  thanks!
[04:44] <soundray> h0vding: one of the many links on the install page as advice for you:
[04:44] <soundray> !install > h0vding
[04:44] <nicolai__> hi
[04:44] <lionel_hutz> yes, I will.  my system isn't running well
[04:44] <ipx> 7 small days... :-D
[04:45] <soundray> lionel_hutz: pidgin will be in gutsy.
[04:46] <h0vding> !automate
[04:46] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[04:46] <hmx> why rtorrent can not normaly download files like deluge?
[04:46] <soundray> h0vding: you can converse directly with ubotu in the pm window.
[04:47] <Polysics> hi all
[04:47] <soundray> !hi | Polysics
[04:47] <ubotu> Polysics: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:47] <Polysics> anyone knows how i can set some PHP option for only a directory under stock 7.04 LAMP install?
[04:47] <Polysics> the good ole .htaccess gets ignored
[04:49] <pete83> I want to know if there is any way to write a script to connect to a network using NetworkManager. Anybody know about this?
[04:49] <Juancabrito> Hi, I've installed ubuntu server, as a LAMP server suposedly, but I wasn't able to find any of the componets I guessed were instaled... so I did that afterwards (install them I mean), with no luck... then I tried XAMPP... no luck with mySql. Also I don't know how to upload pages to this server to test them. Help please, I'm about to give up ubuntu
[04:49] <WaltzingAlong> Juancabrito: give up then. come back when ready
[04:50] <Juancabrito> what you mean with "ready"
[04:50] <WaltzingAlong> Juancabrito:  otherwise start   sudo aptitude            find lamp-server         install that
[04:50] <soundray> pete83: if you're willing to write a script, my suggestion would be to disable/bypass network-manager
[04:50] <h0vding> soundray: the install guide without burning a cd is based on using windows :o
[04:51] <soundray> h0vding: I think there are other relevant links as well.
[04:51] <h0vding> kk
[04:52] <anomalia> hi guys does anybody know if there will be an ubuntustudio gutsy release?
[04:52] <soundray> h0vding: Installation/FromLinux
[04:52] <Polysics> Juancabrito, not to sound too rough, but i think you need to read up a bit :-)
[04:52] <pete83> soundray: Well I think I like NetworkManager, it's just that sometimes it takes it 10 minutes to detect my network, even though if I go to "connect to other wireless network" and then re-enter all the info in manually, it will connect instantly
[04:52] <Polysics> still the deafult dir should be /var/www
[04:52] <Polysics> and what do you mean with "find"?
[04:52] <Polysics> the apps?
[04:52] <Juancabrito> Polysics: I've read a lot
[04:53] <Polysics> try installing phpmyadmin, if that works everything else does
[04:53] <Polysics> it's my first test
[04:53] <soundray> pete83: have you tried a plain 'sudo ifup wlan0'?
[04:53] <Juancabrito> Polysics: Isn't it supposed to be installed with XAMPP?
[04:54] <pete83> soundray: no, what's that?
[04:54] <Juancabrito> Polysics: I have it installed but doesn't work
[04:54] <soundray> pete83: man ifup
[04:55] <pete83> soundray: my wireless card is working, it just detects some networks and not others... and about half the time, not the one I want for quite a few minutes
[04:55] <Polysics> any error messages?
[04:56] <bulmer> Juancabrito: what commands are you using to test?  do you find any new entries in /etc/init.d/  ?
[04:57] <Juancabrito> Polysics: Error: 2002 The server is not responding...
[04:57] <sygnatech> hello guys and gals...  doing a LAMP install on 6.06 and trying to do a software raid 1.  I had several "
[04:57] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I will try it now
[04:58] <Juancabrito> bulmer: what's the command for that?
[04:58] <Polysics> i've never used the packaged lamp tbh
[04:58] <Polysics> always installed the pieces by hand
[04:58] <Polysics> much more control and you actualyl know what you're doing
[04:58] <h0vding> soundray one thing I didnt understand quite was, "cp MYLINUX.iso /distro/distro.iso" cp mylinux.iso how to direct it to where I have the iso file ?
[04:58] <bulmer> Juancabrito: thats why I asked you what commands did you use to test?
[04:58] <Juancabrito> Polysics: I've tried that with the same in mind, but thing went worse
[04:59] <tarzeau> are there any snowballz player?
[04:59] <soundray> h0vding: which instructions are you following?
[04:59] <sygnatech> issues" when I first tried to do this but I fixed them.  But now when setup is complete and it goes to reboot the system, it tells me that it is reconstructing md1.  It just sits there and does nothing.  When I reboot, it pops up an error in grub and won't boot.  error to follow...
[04:59] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I can't remember now, sorry, I'm new in this and thought it would be easier with ubuntu
[04:59] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I've made a lot of things here
[05:00] <h0vding> install any linux distro directrly from harddisk without burnung any cd..
[05:00] <iarwain1> Hiya, does anyone know where ssh keeps my log files?
[05:00] <soundray> sygnatech: don't paste errors please
[05:00] <sygnatech> kk
[05:00] <bulmer> Juancabrito: i can not guess what you did, so try to remember what command you used
[05:00] <soundray> h0vding: point me to the page please
[05:00] <soundray> !pastebin | sygnatech
[05:00] <ubotu> sygnatech: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <h0vding> paste link in query ?
[05:01] <PhenGy> what to type for ssh server?  sudo apt-get install ssh-server?
[05:01] <sygnatech> soundray i'm new here, thanks for the advice!
[05:01] <soundray> h0vding: give us the URL please
[05:01] <h0vding> http://instantfundas.blogspot.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[05:01] <soundray> sygnatech: any time
[05:01] <h0vding> scroll down abit untill you see "from terminal enter theese commands"
[05:02] <sygnatech> nevermind guys, i figured it out.  guess it took coming here to fix it :)  thanks anyway.  later
[05:02] <iarwain1> Hiya, does anyone know where ssh keeps my log files?
[05:02] <sslashes> how can i remove macbook fn key mapping in gnome (i am using pommed instead)?
[05:02] <soundray> h0vding: interesting, wonder if that will work. Anyway, they assume that the iso is in the present working directory. So if you've downloaded the iso to your desktop, for example, you would do a 'cd /home/h0vding/Desktop' before anything else.
[05:02] <Juancabrito> bulmer: What do you mean? I've followed this guide:  http://www.mysql-apache-php.com/
[05:03] <bulmer> Juancabrito: does it have any instructions on how to test things?
[05:03] <h0vding> aaah kk. Il give it a shoot.. u will see me here tomorrow if it worked :p or else dont try it :P
[05:03] <soundray> sslashes: System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts
[05:03] <Juancabrito> bulmer: It mentions the directories you said this way: /etc/init.d/postfix restart
[05:04] <Juancabrito>   /etc/init.d/postfix stop
[05:04] <Juancabrito>   /etc/init.d/postfix start
[05:04] <bulmer> Juancabrito: thats for email stuff, is that what you want installed?
[05:05] <Juancabrito> bulmer: couldn't you help me out with some commands to test?  I want a server to test php with mysql
[05:05] <bulmer> Juancabrito: did you ever check /etc/init.d/  directory for new things installed?
[05:07] <bonzai> b0nza1
[05:08] <Juancabrito> bulmer: what should i look in there?
[05:08] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is the English name of the followeing menu item: Gnome NetworkManager applet (left-click) > Manual configuration > network settings > links >  wire link > 'Roaming-mode activated'?
[05:08] <Juancabrito> bulmer: there's a lot of stuff
[05:09] <bulmer> Juancabrito let me ask you, why do you even want to install LAMP? do you have an inkling what it supposed to do?
[05:09] <FurryNemesis> 's all gone quiet in here. Is everyone saving themselves for the Gutsy rush?
[05:09] <Kurosaki_Ichigo> ubuntu is messing up my wireless broadcom adapter in my other operating systems.  any idea how to fix this?
[05:09] <bulmer> :)
[05:09] <melqui>  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[05:10] <soundray> FurryNemesis: we'll get 1700 people in here. Thinking about taking bets :)
[05:10] <Anomynous> Is there some utility to adjust displays contrast?
[05:10] <bulmer> Juancabrito: btw, the AMP part can be applied to windows also, the L is for linux off course
[05:11] <soundray> Anomynous: very few hardware configurations support that.
[05:11] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I want to test pages and development in php by now, but I also want to learn how to set up the server using linux
[05:11] <FurryNemesis> soundray, I bet you 1 internet that it'll be more than that
[05:12] <Anomynous> okay, thanks, soundray
[05:12] <leku> how do I setup key bindings to switch workspaces in gnome?
[05:12] <yoopernate2004> quick really dumb question: if i'm running a wired computer does that slow down wireless internet on a router?
[05:12] <leku> i'm cramping up hitting ctrl-alt arrow
[05:12] <bulmer> Juancabrito: okay, now, do you know a lil bit of what a client and what a server is?
[05:13] <soundray> leku: System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts
[05:13] <leku> thx
[05:13] <bulmer> yoopernate2004: nope
[05:13] <yoopernate2004> i didn' think so but my neighbor who is running the network is an idiot
[05:13] <sslashes> soundray: that allows me to remove the volume controls, but nowhere can i find keyboard or lcd backlight
[05:13] <Juancabrito> bulmer: yes, the basics
[05:13] <Stevethepirate> Sighs... Xserver crashed again....
[05:13] <leku> how do I add a new shortcut? i see switch to workspace 1 and 2, but I have 4 workspaces?
[05:13] <Stevethepirate> won't start up.
[05:14] <Stevethepirate> leku: Ctrl-Left
[05:14] <Stevethepirate> and Ctrl-Right
[05:14] <bulmer> Juancabrito: okay, so you need a client to test and connect to a server right? how do you check if server is running the services?
[05:14] <soundray> sslashes: for backlight support, you need a driver.
[05:14] <leku> steve: that makes no sense
[05:14] <bulmer> yoopernate2004: you're leeching off of your neighbor? :)
[05:14] <Stevethepirate> press those buttons.. should switch between desktops
[05:14] <leku> dude
[05:15] <leku> that wasn't my question
[05:15] <leku> i alreadyk now how to do that
[05:15] <leku> it is not ergonomic
[05:15] <leku> so i wanna define my own
[05:15] <winge-d_angel> how do i check what shared libs a certain binary file depends on?
[05:15] <leku> i want to have alt-1<>4 for my workspaces
[05:15] <leku> but i only have the option to edit shortcuts to switch to workspace 1 &2, but i have 4 workspaces
[05:15] <Stevethepirate> oO
[05:15] <bulmer> winge-d_angel: i think its nm or ldd  try to man those two command and see what it tells you
[05:16] <sslashes> soundray: backlight support just *worked* with gusty - and i now want it *not* to work so i can use pommed
[05:16] <LM2> anyone know what kernel gutsy is going to use?
[05:16] <LM2> the new 2.6.23?
[05:17] <DoYouKnow> .22
[05:17] <soundray> sslashes: don't know. Have you checked the installation reports linked on tuxmobil.org
[05:17] <Juancabrito> bulmer: to make that easy I've installed XAMPP, but in its main control panel mySQL appears as not activated... also I don't know how to upload to this server from a windows client
[05:17] <LM2> :C
[05:17] <sslashes> soundray: no, i'll give it a look thouigh
[05:18] <LM2> darn.. I was hoping CFS would make it in
[05:18] <LM2> :C
[05:18] <soundray> leku: configure it via gconf-editor - /apps/metacity/global_keybindings
[05:18] <musashi> is there any way to disable ubuntu from checking for certain hardware? it is messing up my wireless card in my other operating systems every time i boot ubuntu
[05:19] <bulmer> Juancabrito: read some more on that tutorial, there sure be some procedures how to test if things are running or not
[05:19] <soundray> LM2: 23 was released last week or so. That would have hardly left time to test it with gutsy...
[05:19] <skannan> how do I disable an app from starting up when I logon ?
[05:19] <Esteth> how can i tell gnome to never populate my "recent documents" list?
[05:19] <soundray> musashi: do you want to disable that hardware in ubuntu?
[05:20] <musashi> soundray, if that would stop it from ever checking for it on bootup, then yes
[05:20] <skannan> I had configured it startup using sessions, but even after disabling/deleteing the app still starts up
[05:20] <LM2> I really think a rolling release system would make more sense but thats just me...
[05:20] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I think I'm not so smart to help myself with tutorials, that's why I came here in the first place
[05:21] <soundray> musashi: I'm not sure what you mean by "checking for", but I would try blacklisting the module that drives the device:
[05:21] <bulmer> Juancabrito: give yourself more credit, you can do it
[05:21] <soundray> !blacklist > musashi, please read ubotu's private message
[05:21] <MrEgg964> hi all, I'm looking for an ipsec vpn client on ubuntu. Any suggestions ?
[05:21] <mc44> LM2: you could use debian unstable if you want rolling ;)
[05:21] <bulmer> Juancabrito: haft to be patient though and persistent
[05:21] <musashi> was just about to ask that
[05:21] <LM2> ya but I like ubuntu's support community and forums enough to make me stick with it :P
[05:22] <LM2> plus I can get a few new debs for things of getdeb.net
[05:22] <musashi> soundray, the problem is, when i boot ubuntu, everything is fine.  i dont have a driver for my wireless card in linux so i dont wrry about it
[05:23] <Juancabrito> bulmer: do you think is better if I reinstall ubuntu? using the normal vesion this time, not the server, and try to install everything from a tutorial ??
[05:23] <musashi> soundray, but when i load my other operating systems after having booted ubuntu, the broadcom wireless LAN is completely gone
[05:23] <bulmer> Juancabrito, maybe, i have installed mine many times, learned mistakes along the way.. :)
[05:24] <hagna> how do I know what version of glibc I'm running?  Also where does apt-get put the source tarballs?
[05:24] <WaltzingAlong> Juancabrito: take it slow. learn what you are doing. set out to do something, understand the steps you are taking as you take them.
[05:24] <WaltzingAlong> Juancabrito: the sudo doitall4me is broken :D
[05:24] <amishninja> Anyone know how to use apt-get to install php4 or if it is even possible? I need it in order to test run a site on my localhost.
[05:25] <soundray> Esteth: try 'chmod a-w ~/.recently-used'
[05:25] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: yes it is possible
[05:25] <amishninja> Awesome
[05:25] <amishninja> Because I've been having trouble - mutliverse and universe are enabled in sources.list, but I understand that php4 is no longer supported.
[05:26] <amishninja> or won't be veyr soon.
[05:26] <bulmer> Juancabrito: learn an application at a time, so you get the feel of the inter-actions
[05:26] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: refering to gutsy? ah that is a different story
[05:26] <h0vding> what is wronge when I get Permission Denied when using command "cp"
[05:26] <amishninja> Huh? Oh, I'm on Feisty.
[05:26] <yoopernate2004> you need to sudo the cp command
[05:26] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: otherwise with feisty to get it working with apache, sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4
[05:26] <Esteth> soundray: hasn't helped :(
[05:26] <bulmer> h0vding: no permission
[05:26] <soundray> h0vding: you don't have write permission to the target. Use sudo
[05:26] <kitche> h0vding: you don't have permissions to cp the file to where your copying it to
[05:26] <soundray> Esteth: in what sense?
[05:26] <amishninja> aptitude, eh? alright, I'll give it a shot.
[05:26] <Esteth> soundray: Nothing has chaned
[05:26] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: or apt-get
[05:27] <Esteth> s/chaned/changed
[05:27] <h0vding> wow I gotto be dumb since I got so many answers on that :p
[05:27] <amishninja> Waltz: I actually tried using apt-get already, and php4 is no longer supported by it.
[05:27] <amishninja> Waltz: So I'm trying to figure out a workaround.
[05:27] <yoopernate2004> hovding: its one of the first things you come across
[05:27] <soundray> Esteth: what do you get when you do a 'ls -l ~/.recently-used'?
[05:27] <h0vding> hehe ya I know
[05:28] <Esteth> soundray: -r-------- 1 esteth esteth 80327 2007-10-06 11:26 /home/esteth/.recently-used
[05:28] <h0vding> just never knew what sudo does but now I know :p
[05:28] <yoopernate2004> you know your in trouble when sudo doesn't work hehe
[05:28] <szachista> amishninja: apt-cache search php4
[05:28] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: aptitude search php4
[05:28] <szachista> amishninja: it still should  be in official repos
[05:28] <MartinW> My computer was struck by lighting and I had to replace almost everything except the hard drive. Now Ubuntu 7.04 won't start X. It gives an error (No screens found) and goes into the terminal. How do I reconfigure it to recognize my new hardware?
[05:28] <WaltzingAlong> szachista: amishninja yes seems to be in feisty but not gutsy
[05:29] <Juancabrito> bulmer: do you know the difference with the ubuntu normal version and the server one?  I've downloaded the second one thinkig it will be with everything there ready
[05:29] <WaltzingAlong> MartinW: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <szachista> marko-_-: of course it gives errors if you have changed you video card
[05:29] <szachista> i mean MartinW^
[05:29] <amishninja> Hmm... because I did a google and it said feisty no longer supports php4, and php4 in general will be support-less by the end of the year. I did actually do an apt-cache search php and only saw php5*.
[05:29] <MartinW> thanks
[05:29] <gsb> amishninja:  is there a reason why you need php4 instead of 5?
[05:29] <szachista> MartinW: maybe dpkg --reconfigure xserver
[05:29] <MartinW> I konw I just don't know how to reconfigure it.
[05:29] <bulmer> Juancabrito: i do not know all the little differences between the two
[05:29] <yoopernate2004> has anyone here gotten second life to work?
[05:29] <WaltzingAlong> yes
[05:30] <WaltzingAlong> !info libapache2-mod-php4
[05:30] <ubotu> Package libapache2-mod-php4 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:30] <h0vding> most of us does
[05:30] <WaltzingAlong> doh!
[05:30] <amishninja> Yes, I'm developing for a site written in php4 and I need to be able to test it locally on that version...
[05:30] <gsb> MartinW: at the command line type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-zorg
[05:30] <szachista> yoopernate2004: second life is gay
[05:30] <buddy> my friend recently switched over to ubuntu and is having some trouble with cg814wg v2 router/modem he has. Where would I find firmware for such a device?
[05:30] <GG-ChuckNoris0> irc.quakenet.org
[05:30] <szachista> yoopernate2004: no godmode, no shutgun :(
[05:30] <brobostigon> no, it doesnt work for me at all, evethough i would love to use seconf life.
[05:30] <gsb> amishninja:  it is possible you may need to download php4 from the php site and compile it.
[05:31] <yoopernate2004> szachista: ah you say that now
[05:31] <MartinW> BEcause Ubuntu doesn't work I'm using my windows computer. I understand now why i switched.
[05:31] <amishninja> gsb: yeah, you're probably right, but I hate having to do that since it's a pain and installers tend to handle dependencies rather well :)
[05:31] <musashi> soundray, i dont have anything in that file specified. is it supposed to be empty?
[05:31] <gsb> amishninja:  I know what you mean, I hate compiling :)
[05:31] <WaltzingAlong> MartinW: ok
[05:31] <soundray> musashi: yes
[05:31] <buddy> MartinW: what graphics card you using? have you tried xubuntu or wubi?
[05:31] <bulmer> MartinW: yeah but you know the grass is greener on the other side, and you know you want to be on the other side
[05:31] <gsb> MartinW:  You can't get to a command line on your ubuntu machine?
[05:32] <sciboy> I wanted to restart wine from scratch, so I ran rm -Rf .wine/ unfortunately the menu items in the Applications menu are still there, how can I clear that as well?
[05:32] <soundray> musashi: unless you've blacklisted something before
[05:32] <musashi> soundray, it says add it has <<blacklist modulename>>
[05:32] <Stevethepirate> sighs
[05:32] <Stevethepirate> sighs
[05:32] <amishninja> I wouldn't mind learning how to actually do it well, but it seems so time-consuming, and why bother doing it if package installers can take care of the overhead
[05:32] <buddy> sciboy: uninstall wine the way you installed it
[05:32] <musashi> soundray, do i use the two '<'s or just blacklist module name
[05:33] <kitche> sciboy: just delete them but rm -rf .wine doesn't do a lot besides removing all your config files and programs
[05:33] <gsb> The only time I ever compile is when the repositories don't have it or it's out of date.  But then again, I work with FreeBSD a lot and thats all compiling from the ports.
[05:33] <amishninja> ah
[05:33] <soundray> musashi: have you found out what module name to blacklist?
[05:33] <musashi> soundray, i also just noticed when i boot ubuntu it says i have a BIOS bug or something to that efect
[05:33] <sciboy> Which is what I wanted to do, but the gnome Applications menu still has the programs I've installed listed.
[05:33] <musashi> soundray, where would i find that at?
[05:34] <sciboy> I've had trouble with this before with properly uninstalled applications, if would be nice to know how to remove it.
[05:34] <amishninja> any tips on how to start with compiling? I actually am a huge noob when it comes to compiling software in linux (kinda new to linux in general but I know basics like where config files are and how to do some admin stuff etc)
[05:34] <soundray> musashi: forget it, I think we're on the wrong track.
[05:34] <Stevethepirate> I'm having X server problems... heres some pics, perhaps someone can hlep
[05:34] <sciboy> kitche, Delete them where?
[05:34] <soundray> musashi: when you reboot into "other OS", does it *always* fail on the wireless, or only if you warm-reboot?
[05:34] <Stevethepirate> http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7875/screenshot1gf1.png
[05:34] <Stevethepirate> http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7079/screenshot2sd9.png
[05:35] <h0vding> bah whats the command to delete a file ?
[05:35] <Stevethepirate> http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6469/screenshot3wf9.png
[05:35] <soundray> h0vding: rm
[05:35] <geefinator> H0viding: rm
[05:35] <h0vding> hehe kk thanks
[05:35] <soundray> !cli > h0vding
[05:35] <ukdsl> hmmz, ive got 2 x rt8139 nics in a machine. dmesg | grep 8139 tells me: identified 8139 chip type RTL-8139C, try the 8139too driver instead :/
[05:35] <kitche> !pastebin | Stevethepirate that might be considered spam to some
[05:35] <ubotu> Stevethepirate that might be considered spam to some: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:35] <musashi> soundray, if i have booted into ubuntu, the wireless lan will be gone.  it will reinstal itself after a while( a few restarts), but then once i boot into ubuntu again, it will dissapear again.
[05:35] <ukdsl> lshw -C network shows them both as disabled :S
[05:35] <Stevethepirate> kitche: its < 3 lines of urls.
[05:35] <Stevethepirate> So. GTFO.
[05:35] <Stevethepirate> :P
[05:36] <moppit> amishninja :  command lines for compiling..  1st Compile Program.c  --> that will make a .mak file then make program.mak
[05:36] <amishninja> geef, any tips on learning to compile programs? should I just google it and hope for the best or do you have a specific reference that you like to use?
[05:36] <moppit> amishninja : be ready for missing dependencies that you will have to manually get and install until you have all the dependencies satisfied and your make program.mak works
[05:36] <kitche> !gtfo > Stevethepirate but anyways I don't have a gui to even look at your links right now
[05:36] <mc44> !gtfo | Stevethepirate
[05:36] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:36] <geefinator> amishninja:  Well I learned from FreeBSD which is a bit different than ubuntu, but close to the same.  Let me see if I can find you some references.
[05:37] <Stevethepirate> Luls.
[05:37] <amishninja> moppit: what about using Dpkg to install some of it?
[05:37] <Stevethepirate> Please stop shouting at me, and rather help.. please.
[05:37] <amishninja> geef: thanks bro
[05:37] <Stevethepirate> Sighs
[05:37] <Stevethepirate> brb.. supper
[05:37] <sciboy> I find it rather difficult to shout with text.
[05:37] <amishninja> CAPS LOCK IS YELLING
[05:38] <amishninja> :-p
[05:38] <musashi> lolo
[05:38] <IrrsiNewbie> hello
[05:38] <h0vding> talk about beeing bored :p
[05:38] <sciboy> I thought it was emphasis?
[05:38] <brobostigon> caos lock is also shouting.
[05:38] <soundray> sciboy: no, *this* is emphasis
[05:38] <NixMan> what is the package that i can install to compile stuff? the dependenncy for compiling...
[05:38] <sciboy> What about _this_ then?
[05:38] <amishninja> nope, caps lock is always yelling. fact of life.
[05:38] <musashi> soundray, should i just forget about using? i cant figure out why it would disable my wireless in other OSs
[05:38] <musashi> using ubuntu*
[05:38] <moppit> amishninja dpkg works a lot better for handling dependencies, I use it when I can.. But if your forced to compile manually, on the make stage it will give errors for missing dependency packages..
[05:39] <moppit> amishninja: and for compiling you want gcc
[05:39] <moppit> or a variant c compiler
[05:39] <soundray> musashi: sorry, I can't explain it either. Normally, the kind of probing that ubuntu does should not disturb a device.
[05:39] <geefinator> amishninja:well actually just do a sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:39] <joshua--> hello, anyone here have any experience with getting wireless usb adapters to work, on ubuntu, on a computer that does not have a wireless chip ?
[05:39] <amishninja> moppit: ugh, really? so it's best to just do it all myself using... whatever commands that I have to use in order to do it? hold on... *scrolls up*
[05:39] <amishninja> geef: what's that?
[05:40] <soundray> musashi: perhaps there's a kernel boot option that will prevent the probe. How is your wireless device connected?
[05:40] <mc44> joshua--: what chipset is it?
[05:40] <moppit> amishninja : No it's best to do sudo apt-get install program
[05:40] <geefinator> amishninja:  it installs most of the dependencies needed for compiling.
[05:40] <musashi> soundray, its internal, came with the laptop
[05:40] <gorski> i installed apache2. Why i do not have a httpd in /usr/sbin?
[05:40] <joshua--> mc44: there is no wireless chipset .. it is a netgear usb wireless adapter.
[05:40] <soundray> musashi: then it's miniPCI. Can you do a 'lspci' and just paste the line that refers to the device pls
[05:40] <amishninja> moppit: right I know, but the package I want to install (php4 and all the stuff that goes with it for LAMP, as well as gd for images) is unsupported by apt-get
[05:40] <geefinator> moppit:  I am just letting him know that instead of installing all the programs from scratch he can do build-essential to get most of what he needs.
[05:41] <musashi> k
[05:41] <mc44> joshua--: yeah I meant on the wireless adaptor...
[05:41] <joshua--> oh sorry.
[05:41] <geefinator> for compiling that is.
[05:41] <mc44> joshua--: what model? what does lsusb say?
[05:41] <livingdaylight> can i ask a question about gutsy gypsie?
[05:41] <DoYouKnow> how do I disable this: When I open up firefox, then spawn a new window, I can close the child process and it will terminate the parent
[05:41] <MartinW> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but now I get an error message saying that my screens configuration isn't workable.
[05:41] <moppit> moppit: cool cool. get the essential with apt-get and once you have the dependencies, go ahead and compile the php4 source
[05:41] <joshua--> mc44: it is a netgear WG111v3.
[05:41] <moppit> should save a lot of trouble
[05:42] <musashi> soundray, uhhh i only see alot of nVidia stuff, nothing from broadcom
[05:42] <Noemie> `Naya
[05:42] <Noemie> ^^
[05:42] <`Naya> Noemie
[05:42] <Noemie> :)
[05:42] <Noemie> a parle pas en franais ici XD
[05:42] <Lunz> hello
[05:42] <livingdaylight> anyone?
[05:42] <brickbat> hi
[05:42] <amishninja> moppit: oh, so I can install mysql, apache2, phpmyadmin by itself and then put php4 on top of that? I should also mention that I have a php5/apache2/mysql5/phpmyadmin installation already from apt-get. I want to be able to use both php4 and php5 in separate branches.
[05:43] <`Naya> noemie
[05:43] <Noemie> oui `Naya ?
[05:43] <brobostigon> i have a netgear wg1111 v2, and it does work but after boot i have to disconnect it and then plug it back in, and then restart networking to get it working.
[05:43] <`Naya> tu es nono ?
[05:43] <moppit> amishninja : That I have no clue.. might be a problem with the .php suffix and which program it's using when your apache opens a php file...
[05:43] <Noemie> oui `Naya
[05:43] <soundray> musashi: sorry, I think this one is beyond me
[05:44] <`Naya> Ok
[05:44] <Noemie> ici nono est rserv je peux pas l'utiliser
[05:44] <Lunz> tom_:are you still here?
[05:44] <hhp2k> Wheee, my Ubuntu CD's came! =D
[05:44] <`Naya> Ok
[05:44] <geefinator> amishninja:  I have never personally had two installations of php on the same box, so I am not sure if you will run into some errors.  I would say the chance of it is likely though.
[05:44] <moppit> amishninja: Cause doesn't php work, that when apache opens a php file, it points to the php location to parse the file in question.,, That sounds like it might be a configuration nightmare, not to let ya try and stop
[05:44] <musashi> soundray, i appreciate the help, perhaps this is a known problem, i will search google or something.  i only came here first out of habit.
[05:44] <joshua--> mc44: lsusb finds it Buss 004 Device 002: ID 0846:4260 NetGear,Inc.
[05:44] <Noemie> `Naya tape /join #jamzine
[05:44] <amishninja> moppit: well, I guess it may be best to compile everything manually then, because I could put a separate apache installation in with the php4 and have it be independent of what I already have installed
[05:44] <soundray> musashi: have a look on launchpad as well, and consider reporting it there.
[05:45] <`Naya> Y'a le droit  la pub
[05:45] <SNy> Hey guys. If I install 7.10 beta now, will the final be an update or an upgrade?
[05:45] <soundray> !bugs | musashi
[05:45] <ubotu> musashi: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:45] <moppit> amishninja:What I would recommend for testing something locally for a project.. put together a computer out of spare parts and just install a light linux and only php4 and apache... 2 php's may be.. interesting
[05:45] <steve1> Hello
[05:45] <brobostigon> mines a netgear wg1111 v2, but it does work,
[05:45] <magnetron> !fr | `Naya
[05:45] <ubotu> `Naya: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:45] <joshua--> brobostigon: what did you use to set it up?
[05:45] <novato_br> how can I get gtk version on my ubuntu 7.04 ?
[05:45] <geefinator> amish and moppit:  I would guess that you could do that if you loaded the php 4 module in apache instead of the php5 module.
[05:45] <`Naya> Merci
[05:45] <geefinator> but thats just a guess.
[05:45] <`Naya> Moi Anglais
[05:45] <livingdaylight> livingdaylight is wondering whether the login music to Ubuntu will be different in gutsy gypsie... me thinks those bongs are starting to wear thin
[05:45] <`Naya> C'est la cats
[05:45] <Noemie> lol
[05:46] <mc44> joshua--: have you tried using ndiswrapper?
[05:46] <moppit> geefinator: Is there a config file where you can change php5 to php4?
[05:46] <Noemie> t'essaye de leur parler `Naya ?
[05:46] <amishninja> moppit: you think two PHPs will be a problem even if I install it in some way that they're separate from one another? like two copies of each of their dependent parts? just have one be /etc/php4 and the other be /etc/php5 or something?
[05:46] <joshua--> mc44: yeah, i downloaded it, but i dont know how to use it. :/
[05:46] <geefinator> moppit: well you specify what modules to load in httpd.conf
[05:46] <PhenGy> how to use WINSCP connect to Ubuntu?  Must install what SSH server module on Ubuntu
[05:46] <brobostigon> connect it whillst ubuntu is booting, setup your wireless in the interfaces file, disconnect it and then recconnect it, and then restart networking.
[05:46] <amishninja> geef: that's true.
[05:46] <mc44> joshua--: do "ndiswrapper -l" in a terminal
[05:47] <soundray> PhenGy: 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[05:47] <novato_br> how can I get gtk version on my ubuntu 7.04 ?
[05:47] <moppit> good enough then.. Thanks for that next step geefinator.. I have a tendency for doing things in the hardest ways possible :)
[05:47] <steve1> Hey guys for some reason my browser doesn't work on ubuntu 6.06. As you can see i am connected to the internet can anyone else?
[05:47] <geefinator> amish and moppit:  so i am assuming you can specify php4 instead of 5 :)
[05:47] <novato_br> what is the line command to know about that?
[05:47] <geefinator> moppit:  No problem.  I am the same way sometimes.
[05:47] <MartinW> My computer was struck by lighting and I had to replace almost everything except the hard drive. Now Ubuntu 7.04 won't start X. It gives an error (No screens found) and goes into the terminal. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but I got some of the settings wrong and it now says my screen configuration isn't working. Is there an auto-detect somewhere?
[05:47] <joshua--> mc44: is that ndiswrapper -one? or l ?
[05:47] <amishninja> So basically I could get away with installing php4 and 5 and have them both using the same apache/mysql/phpmyadmin or what have you, and it would just be a simple matter of changing something in httpd.conf?
[05:48] <joshua--> brobostigon: okay, i will try that now.
[05:48] <soundray> novato_br: 'dpkg -l libgtk1.2 ; dpkg -l libgtk2*'
[05:48] <geefinator> amish:  yeah,  in theory I would think that would work.  But I have never tried it.
[05:48] <mythri1> For some reason or another my scroll wheel stopped functioning, but the ZAxisMapping is set up properly (as far as I can tell), is there something else I need to make sure is set up right?
[05:48] <brobostigon> that worked for me, it worth trying.
[05:48] <novato_br> thx, soundray
[05:48] <Noemie> hellooo :)
[05:48] <musashi> soundray, thanks ill try that. hope i can fix this problem, id love to give ubuntu a chance
[05:48] <moppit> geefinator:checking on httpd.conf right now.. have php5 and apache.. looking at config file
[05:48] <joshua--> mc44: ndiswrapper -l returns nothing.
[05:48] <steve1> Anyone here that could give me a hand?
[05:49] <joshua--> someone told me i need to get 'windows drivers' ?
[05:49] <amishninja> geef: fair enough. do you have any idea how to go about setting up php4 manually so that it *does* use everything else I have installed as its dependencies?
[05:49] <joshua--> but i couldnt figure out where to find them at.
[05:49] <mc44> joshua--: ndiswrapper -h
[05:49] <PhenGy> what compiler module to install if want to compile  Eggdrop again ?
[05:49] <Lunz> !ndiswrapper
[05:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:49] <`Naya> Thank you for living rooms in Frenchman Car I am void in English :)
[05:49] <joshua--> -h does nothing, dont think its a vaild argument.
[05:49] <PhenGy> uncompile
[05:49] <mc44> joshua--: should show whether ndiswrapper is installed properly if you get the help insturctions
[05:50] <geefinator> amish:  Well I would imagine you set it up just like you would php5,  usually the configure will have a help option that shows you all the flags you can specify when configuring/making the software.
[05:50] <soundray> mythri1: there should be a line Option         "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" or Option         "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
[05:50] <mc44> joshua--: just run "ndiswrapper"
[05:50] <geefinator> amish:  you know ./configure --with-apxs2(thats apache) --with-whatever... etc.
[05:50] <moppit> amishninja: the dependencies for 4 and 5 should be almost the same.. try getting gcc and comiling and making the source right now.. should at least set it up in a directory... make sure it doesn't overwrite the php5 directory :)
[05:50] <moppit> +
[05:50] <novato_br> soundray, here it's shows:  ii  libgtk2.0-0    2.10.11-0ubunt
[05:50] <Hornet> Could someone please lend me a hand getting my display back into XGL / AIGLX mode?  I've tried all the various how-tos available and none do the trick.
[05:50] <mythri1> soundray: I see the ImPS/2 one
[05:50] <novato_br> Soth, here is 2.10.11???
[05:50] <amishninja> geef: okay. say, this is a random stab in the dark as well but would there be some way to add a respository to sources.list so that it actually does try to install php4 automatically for me via apt-get?
[05:50] <novato_br> soundray, here is 2.10.11?
[05:51] <amishninja> moppit: sure!
[05:51] <soundray> mythri1: has it stopped in all applications?
[05:51] <geefinator> amishninja:  Unfortunately I have no clue.
[05:51] <soundray> novato_br: same here
[05:51] <mythri1> soundray: so far, firefox, gaim, gedit
[05:51] <novato_br> i need to version 2.10.13
[05:51] <amishninja> geef and mop: alright, so I download the php4 tarball and do what exactly? gcc it somehow you say?
[05:51] <novato_br> to run the gimp, soundray
[05:51] <geefinator> amishninja:  whenever I compile php here at work for my webservers I just make sure to specify everything I want it to use when I configure it.
[05:51] <novato_br> how can i get install the new GTK?
[05:51] <joshua--> mc44: yeah, that does nothing, the program just runs and then stops because i am give it no arguments.
[05:52] <geefinator> amishninja:  Untar and unzip it.  tar xzf filename
[05:52] <soundray> novato_br: no, just install the gimp from the repository. It doesn't have any dependencies that aren't in feisty already.
[05:52] <amishninja> geef: kk.
[05:52] <geefinator> amishninja:  then navigate to the directory it creates.
[05:52] <soundray> novato_br: if you need a newer gimp, upgrade to gutsy-beta.
[05:52] <mc44> joshua--: you're sure its actually installed? :) ndiswrapper should return the help page
[05:52] <geefinator> amishninja:  should be close to the name of the tar file.
[05:52] <novato_br> soundray, you don't understand me, man! I like the new versions programs
[05:52] <novato_br> and i want the new gimp
[05:52] <novato_br> heehehe
[05:52] <soundray> novato_br: I do understand you. Install gutsy-beta.
[05:53] <joshua--> mc44: yeah, it returns the hep page.
[05:53] <novato_br> i know that software are instable, but this is not problem for me
[05:53] <joshua--> help
[05:53] <joshua--> sorry, i couldnt find the right words for it. :P
[05:53] <novato_br> i'd like, soundray
[05:53] <geefinator> amishninja:  then there should be a readme in there, I would take a look at that.
[05:53] <amishninja> geef: will do. thank you sir
[05:53] <novato_br> but my internet is very slow to dowload the gutsy now
[05:53] <Noemie> I'm french and I don't understand what you say !!
[05:53] <novato_br> i'll take on next time
[05:53] <soundray> novato_br: generally, ubuntu is tuned towards stability. If you don't care about that, run Debian Sid.
[05:53] <geefinator> amishninja:  you are welcome :)
[05:53] <mythri1> soundray: any other ideas (scrolll wheel thing)?
[05:54] <novato_br> hehee, soundray
[05:54] <soundray> mythri1: has it just failed in this session, or have you rebooted since?
[05:54] <mc44> joshua--: ok then you need to get the windows drivers for the wireless adaptor and find the .inf file
[05:54] <mythri1> soundray: rebooted twice
[05:54] <novato_br> soundray, so cannot I install the gtk lib ?
[05:55] <soundray> mythri1: anything suspicios in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Look for lines that start with EE
[05:55] <amishninja> Aaaaahhh! There's like 10 README files...
[05:55] <tyler_d> how do I switch from an 64 bit install to an i386 install?
[05:55] <soundray> novato_br: you can do anything, but it's not recommended.
[05:55] <ShadowWork> I have some security updates on my machine for mysql but everytime I try to update I get "(Reading database ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault" what does it mean and how can I fix it?
[05:55] <soundray> tyler_d: you have to reinstall. All the binaries are different.
[05:55] <geefinator> amishninja:  Give me a second to grab the tarball and I will do it myself so I can walk you through it
[05:55] <amishninja> kk
[05:55] <tyler_d> soundray: ok then.. ty
[05:56] <amishninja> give me a second to get some caffeine
[05:56] <amishninja> brb
[05:56] <novato_br> heehe, soundray
[05:56] <soundray> tyler_d: alternatively, run a 32bit chroot
[05:56] <novato_br> i want it, soundray
[05:56] <novato_br> wish good lock for me
[05:56] <dan_l> Hey, can somebody take a look at a laptop spec sheet and confirm that ubuntu will run on it with me.  It's not listed on the laptop tests, but I'd just like to see if there are any red flags withsomebody in the know.
[05:57] <mythri1> soundray: only stuff about my wacom tablet (which hasn't been attached for nearly 6 months)
[05:57] <marko-_-> i wanna play a game so.. are there any cool games for linux like first shooter games or someting like that with a cool storyline ?
[05:57] <steve1> what would i run executable text files with?
[05:57] <soundray> dan_l: go to tuxmobil.org and see if there are any installation reports for your model.
[05:57] <geefinator> steve1:  what exactly do you mean?  what is the file extension?
[05:57] <Lunz> does anyone use irssi?
[05:57] <Lunz> !irssi
[05:57] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[05:57] <soundray> mythri1: have you tested the mouse wheel on another machine?
[05:58] <skynexus_> _Andrew: are you there?
[05:58] <mythri1> none available, but the rest of the mouse worked, and it was working yesterday
[05:58] <soundray> mythri1: so what has changed since yesterday?
[05:58] <mythri1> nothing that I am aware of
[05:58] <mythri1> only played some games since then
[05:59] <soundray> mythri1: is it a USB mouse?
[06:00] <mythri1> yes, but I am using a ps/2 adaptor
[06:00] <tyler_d> dpkg -i .."file name" --force-architecture .... ? is this the correct syntax
[06:00] <tyler_d> ?
[06:00] <geefinator> Is anyone in here intimately familiar with ncpfs?
[06:01] <soundray> mythri1: any chance you can plug it into a USB port?
[06:01] <ShadowWork> I have some security updates on my machine for mysql but everytime I try to update I get "(Reading database ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault" what does it mean and how can I fix it?
[06:01] <dan_l> Soundray:  It's not listed.  But does that necessarily mean I can't run ubuntu on it?
[06:01] <mythri1> soundray: no difference
[06:01] <soundray> dan_l: no, it doesn't
[06:01] <mythri1> I'll reboot and see if that helps
[06:01] <frojnd> if I wanna delete all files but *example.avi in the direcotry I am. How can I remove em *
[06:02] <soundray> mythri1: also, run a 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and watch while you unplug and replug. Any errors logged?
[06:02] <PirateLeChuck> why can i no longer install xchat on ubuntu?
[06:02] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  thats a good question since I am using it right now on ubuntu...
[06:02] <PirateLeChuck> i do an apt-cache search xchat
[06:02] <PirateLeChuck> nothng found
[06:03] <steve1> hey i just opened up the terminal, how do i navigate to a folder on the desktop?
[06:03] <mc44> steve1: cd ~/Desktop/
[06:03] <soundray> steve1: cd Desktop/yourfolder
[06:03] <PirateLeChuck> i try and install it via the add/remove tool in X and it informs me that my distribution has chosen not to support it or somesuch...
[06:03] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  Do you have have all the repositories enabled?
[06:03] <steve1> thx
[06:03] <PirateLeChuck> geefinator - i couldn't confirm that either way
[06:04] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  are you using gnome?
[06:04] <PirateLeChuck> geefinator, i am using gnome yes, has xchat fallen out with gnome?
[06:04] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck: Nope, just need to know how to get you to the software source selection.
[06:04] <PirateLeChuck> muhuhu!
[06:05] <Pici> PirateLeChuck: System>Preferences>Software sources
[06:05] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  Click Applications -> Settings -> Software Sources (If i remember correctly, I run xfce and its different)
[06:05] <soundray> frojnd: 'mv example.avi .. ; rm * ; mv ../example.avi .' It's very fast, as mv only changes dir entries - doesn't actually touch the file.
[06:05] <Pici> PirateLeChuck: Also, Look behind you! Its a three-headed-monkey
[06:05] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  Pici got it right :)
[06:05] <Wips> I'm having problems viewing my ubuntu's shared files on the windows laptop and vice versa. They are able to ping eachother and I can browse the windows laptop's shared folders with  the "smbclient -L hostname"-command
[06:06] <steve1> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Adobe Flash Player installer - Whats that?
[06:06] <geefinator> Wips:  Did you format the shared partition as Fat32?
[06:06] <Lounge> can you plug a digital camera into ubuntu without any problems?
[06:06] <PirateLeChuck> Pici, geefinator, arrrrgh me hearties i be sorting the wee xchat problem out right now!
[06:06] <Wips> geefinator, Shared Partition?
[06:06] <soundray> Lounge: sure. Do you also expect it to work :)
[06:06] <Wips> geefinator, There's no shared partition, only folders
[06:07] <geefinator> Wips:  ah ok, gotcha.  sorry :P
[06:07] <PirateLeChuck> geefinator, it is cool, i only just installed ubuntu and it hadn't picked up all the repositories
[06:07] <PirateLeChuck> if i now run apt-cache search xchat it finds it fine!
[06:07] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  Well you should be on your way to using Xchat in no time! :)
[06:07] <frojnd> soundray, what do u mean just change dir entries, so example is still somewhere ?
[06:07] <interbird> Actually it is: System->Administration->Software Sources
[06:07] <PirateLeChuck> i am off to install it, i jamp the gun a bit there, cheers for your help anyway
[06:07] <geefinator> Wips:  So the windows computer can't see the linux computer?
[06:07] <soundray> Lounge: most cameras support either PPTP or the USB mass storage protocol. Ubuntu can deal with both.
[06:08] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  You are welcome :)
[06:08] <Wips> geefinator, yes it can.. that's the weird part imo =P but it can't access it
[06:08] <LogicalDash> Where does SCIM keep its logs?
[06:08] <PirateLeChuck> bbiab on ubuntu AND xchat...
[06:08] <Wips> geefinator, and the ubuntu computer can't even see the workgroup in the windows network
[06:08] <geefinator> Wips:  Hmm, give me one second.
[06:09] <Scunizi> Wips you might need to install Samba or SMBFS
[06:09] <soundray> frojnd: 'mv file ..' moves the file to the parent directory. This happens without any actual data bits from the file being moved. Linux just adapts the filesystem entries. That's why it's fast.
[06:09] <Wips> Scunizi, I have samba..
[06:09] <mythri1> soundray: no difference
[06:09] <soundray> mythri1: logs?
[06:09] <zachary> Hi i'm having trouble with the partitioning step of the install.  first time with ubuntu, can someone help?  i am getting a "Cant have the end before the start error"
[06:09] <interbird> Wips: Are you using the same workgroup names ?
[06:09] <Wips> yes Interbird. Mshome
[06:09] <geefinator> Wips:  I would take a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7686, might be helpful.
[06:10] <mythri1> soundray: again only wacom errors
[06:10] <geefinator> zachary:  How are you trying to partition it?
[06:10] <PirateLeChuck> arrrgh! i be cookin' on gaaaassss now!
[06:10] <interbird> Wips: So, Mshome is listed in /etc/samba/smb.conf after the workgroup= statement ?
[06:10] <Wips> As I said the windows-laptop can see my ubuntu-computer in the same workgroup as it is in.. just can't access
[06:10] <Scunizi> zachary, are you using the "Alternate CD"?
[06:10] <soundray> mythri1: run a 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and watch while you unplug and replug. Any errors logged?
[06:10] <zachary> geefinator: first question, do i need a /boot partition?
[06:10] <Wips> yes interbird =D I made sure earlier
[06:10] <zachary> scunizi: no, liveCD
[06:10] <geefinator> zachary:  Yes, as far as I know that is needed.  Are you dual booting?
[06:11] <bruenig> you need a boot directory, whether that is on a separate partition is up to you
[06:11] <zachary> geefinator: maybe, i have another OS on a different harddrive, not a problem yet, might add it later
[06:11] <Scunizi> zachary, do you only have one drive installed? (I'm also reading geefinator's questions)
[06:11] <Warini> HI
[06:11] <geefinator> zachary:  is ubuntu going to be the only thing on the hard drive you are using?
[06:11] <zachary> Scunizi: at the moment i pulled the other two, so yes
[06:11] <Warini> how are you guys
[06:12] <zachary> geefinator: yes
[06:12] <geefinator> zachary:  Then I would just use the default setup.  Although, you may want to do custom so you can put your /home on a separate partition.
[06:12] <zachary> geefinator: i have 500GB, i want 512MB /boot, 4GB swap, 20GB /, 100GB /home, and the rest as /media
[06:12] <mythri1> soundray: nothing looks out of place in syslog
[06:12] <zachary> what does the default do?
[06:13] <geefinator> zachary:  Ok, so do the custom partitioning and set it up that way.
[06:13] <Scunizi> zachary, keep it simple.. the drive needs to be tagged as bootable.  You need a root "/" partition, /swap partition, and /home partition.  / should be between 8-15gigs, swap= 1-2 gigs and the rest home.
[06:13] <brickbat> swap should be 2x your ram memory
[06:13] <geefinator> zachary:  it just allocates for / partition and swap
[06:13] <soundray> mythri1: I suspect a hardware fault then. Some dirt blocking the optical sensor. Borrow another mouse to test, or test yours elsewhere.
[06:13] <interbird> Wips: Does dpkg --list|grep smbfs show it's installed ?
[06:13] <Scunizi> zachary, I suggest the seperation of partitions because when you upgrade later or have to reinstall, you're data will pretty much be protected.
[06:13] <geefinator> zachary:  Scunizi has it,  read their answer.
[06:13] <Warini> I had to install ubuntu on a old pc I have it as server because my new dualcore nvidia 8600 has abit wifi and i couldn't find any driver, anyone knows what can i do
[06:14] <mythri1> I have a battery operated one, I am chargin right now to test
[06:14] <zachary> right so i have 2GB ram...its a huge harddrive, i dont want such a huge /home
[06:14] <Col-Panic> Any news on the Gutsy release candidate?
[06:14] <brickbat> i am having a problem with using a mouse on a hp laptop
[06:14] <zachary> exactly...i want to segregate my data from the OS as much as possible
[06:14] <geefinator> Scunizi:  thanks, I was trying to word it properly :P
[06:14] <Intrepd> Hi, I'm trying to setup some terminals using --geometry.  is there a easy way to get the x/y/w/h besides just guess and check?  Can I move the terminal to where I want it, and then find out its geometry?
[06:14] <Scunizi> zachary, what will you do with the extra space you don't want to use for /home?
[06:14] <Wips> interbird, it lists nothing
[06:14] <Scunizi> geefinator, np
[06:14] <foxiness> Col-Panic: www.ubuntu.com
[06:15] <zachary> scunizi: mount it remotely over my lan or mount it if i boot into a different OS
[06:15] <interbird> Wips: As root: apt-get install smbfs or use synaptic
[06:15] <Col-Panic> foxi: They only mention the beta
[06:15] <soundray> Intrepd: the window size is shown while you resize. You can also use xwininfo
[06:15] <Wips> interbird, I have samba installed though.. shouldn't that be enough?
[06:15] <bruenig> Intrepd, xwininfo
[06:15] <Col-Panic> Which was already removed from the mirrors
[06:15] <interbird> Wips: smbfs is needed to connect to shares
[06:15] <Warini> I hace a PCI-E Abit AirPace Wifi, can't make it work, any help???
[06:15] <Intrepd> Sweet thanks guys
[06:15] <interbird> Wips: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[06:15] <Wips> interbird, ok, it's installed now
[06:15] <geefinator> Wips: did you look at the forum posting i sent?  You need to actually mount the drive.
[06:15] <Col-Panic> I was hoping somebody had some inside news when the RC will be deployed
[06:16] <boris__> is there any way to see which font my theme uses ?
[06:16] <interbird> Wips: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:16] <freezey> i am trying to write some perl scripts with ubuntu and i am gettin error outputs that are saying use: command not found... so and and so forth.. what package do i need for all the perl modules?
[06:16] <nasim> quit
[06:16] <bruenig> !ot | Col-Panic
[06:16] <ubotu> Col-Panic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:16] <brickbat> can i get some help please?
[06:16] <freezey> brickbat: whats ur issue i didnt see it
[06:16] <geefinator> freezey: what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:16] <zachary> so geefinator/scunuzi: my problem is that when i go to set up the "everything else" partition, i get a "ERROR!!! end cannot come before the start"
[06:16] <Wips> I looked at it geefinator, but I don't get it.. I've been able to share files on this ubuntu before, whitout having to mount etc etc
[06:16] <interbird> Wips: also check that guest ok = yes in the global settings of /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:16] <freezey> geefinator: just write a perl script using DBI to connect to my mysql db and do a few things for me
[06:16] <Scunizi> zachary, ok.. that makes sense.. like a NFS partition. That can be a good idea.. and doable.  Remember a drive can only have 4 primary partitions. With the current partitioning sceme 3 are used.  The 4th will have to be tagged as a logical volume then create partitions under that for NFS or another op system etc..
[06:17] <Col-Panic> bruenig: thx a bunch
[06:17] <brickbat> i have a hp laptop and when i plug in the mouse it doesnt work
[06:17] <freezey> what kind of mouse
[06:17] <bruenig> brickbat, have you tried starting the xserver when the mouse was already plugged in?
[06:17] <geefinator> freezey:  have you installed DBI and the DBD driver for your database?
[06:17] <Scunizi> brickbat, the mouse or the lap top? :)
[06:17] <brickbat> just a regular logitech scrollmouse
[06:17] <freezey> na thats what i was wondering what packages are those?
[06:18] <zachary> scunizi: ok.  heres what i have so far:  509MB /boot primary, 20480MB / primary, 4096 swap primary, 102396MB logical /home, and i want to add 372621MB logical /media
[06:18] <_Carlo_> hi, my postfix smtp server uses sasl for auth how can i configure mailman to authenticate?
[06:18] <brickbat> i think it is clashing with the trackpad
[06:18] <freezey> geefinator: na tats what i was wondering.. whats the packages for that
[06:18] <Wips> interbird, there's nothing called "guest ok"
[06:18] <geefinator> freezey: libdbi-perl and libdbd-mysql-perl
[06:18] <brickbat> yes ive tried booting with the mouse already plugged in
[06:19] <freezey> geefinator: already installed
[06:19] <zachary> scunizi: so i go to do that, and i get the error."Cant have the end before the start"
[06:19] <geefinator> freezey,  ok so what error are you getting?
[06:19] <soundray> brickbat: is it an optical mouse?
[06:19] <brickbat> umm let me see
[06:19] <Scunizi> zachary, your / is too large, reduce to 15gigs at the most. Although most writings say to double your ram to get the size of your swap, it's not neccessary, 2 gigs is plenty.
[06:19] <Wips> ah, found it interbird.. It's set to Yes
[06:19] <interbird> Wips: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and add guest ok = yes to the global section and then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:20] <freezey> command not found
[06:20] <freezey> geefinator: command not found
[06:20] <CH1P> my ethernet driver is not getting detected in ubuntu anyways of using driver softwares to fix the problem?
[06:20] <geefinator> freezey, what command?
[06:20] <soundray> CH1P: your ethernet *card* isn't getting detected?
[06:21] <zachary> ok, so 15 GB instead of 20...and i have a pretty huge 500GB hdd here....i'm not going to worry much about the 7GB...is there a reason that I should save those 7GB?
[06:21] <CH1P> soundray:yeah,
[06:21] <brickbat> its not an optical mouse it has a ball
[06:21] <zachary> ideally i would like to be able to obliterate the / partition and stick something else in there whenever i want to
[06:21] <freezey> geefinator: use and user
[06:21] <interbird> Wips: can you paste /etc/samba/smb.conf on #flood so i can check it ?
[06:21] <Scunizi> zachary, when using the partitioning tool don't use the "sliders" to adjust the size.  Delete all the partitions (or choose back and start over again)
[06:21] <soundray> CH1P: is it a PCI card?
[06:21] <CH1P> yes
[06:21] <geefinator> freezey: could you send me a copy of the code?  my aim screen is gbrodniak
[06:21] <Wips> sure interbird
[06:21] <brickbat> the mouse works fine on my desktop pc
[06:21] <brickbat> in ubuntu
[06:22] <zachary> Scunizi:i'm typing numbers in, there are no sliders.  I'm using the "Prepare partitions" manually from inside the install
[06:22] <soundray> CH1P: is there a line in the output of lspci that corresponds to your card?
[06:22] <geefinator> feezey, or you could email it to me.
[06:23] <Eon_> soundray: this is everlong...are you there_
[06:23] <soundray> Eon_: yes
[06:23] <Scunizi> zachary, no matter how large your drive you'll eventually want the extra space. :).. ok, no sliders. Typically only change the end cylindar for each partition and allow the program to choose the beginning cyl.
[06:23] <amishninja> geef: you untar php4 yet?
[06:23] <CH1P> soundray: do u mean this one: RTL8139D PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
[06:23] <soundray> CH1P: yes, second...
[06:23] <Eon_> soundray: i-m sorry to bother but that thing didnt work
[06:24] <CH1P> ok