[08:16] <the_hammer> well hope your not as disappointed as i am
[08:17] <Simeon_H> I'll tell you in 6-8 weeks
[08:17] <anon32> there's no option to order 1x 32-bit and 1x 64-bit...
[08:17] <anon32> annoying
[08:18] <the_hammer> the kcontrol is messed up i goto the kmenu to set up my display i click admin mode and says loading but the stupid box where ya put the pw dont come up just says loading and thats it
[08:18] <Simeon_H> well you could make a custom order
[08:18] <Simeon_H> but that would take longer
[08:18] <anon32> yeah, but that takes even longer :-\
[08:18] <the_hammer> hell with it i goto mepis night all
[08:19] <anon32> wtf is mepis???
[08:19] <Simeon_H> an awesome distro
[08:19] <Simeon_H> I use kubuntu because I get the CD's shipped to me for free
[08:19] <Simeon_H> seeing as I have super super slow internetz
[08:20] <anon32> I have a broadband line but it still seems to take forever to connect to servers...
[08:20] <anon32> maybe there's some kind of anti-net neutrality going on
[08:21] <ubuntu__> anyone online?
[08:21] <ubuntu__> i need some help
[08:21] <aaron_> hi, I'm trying to use the... ha.. .I just figured it out... kde 4 for EDGY.. .I'm using F ... haha
[08:21] <aaron_> ask away
[08:22] <aaron_> and be patient
[08:22] <ubuntu__> i am running kubuntu now from a cd
[08:22] <ubuntu__> and would like to know how to install beryl
[08:22] <ubuntu__> :D
[08:22] <Simeon_H> well I suppose you could install it to RAM
[08:22] <Simeon_H> but err
[08:23] <aaron_> I have no idea....  however, I do know that it depends on the version of kubuntu you are running
[08:23] <aaron_> and you probably need to install it to your HD
[08:23] <tmulvaney> any one know of a qt based beryl manager?
[08:23] <aaron_> then just apt-get install it
[08:23] <ubuntu__> i have the latest kubuntu...its from the internet
[08:23] <aaron_> ...
[08:23] <anon32> ubuntu_, uh... apt-get install beryl
[08:23] <ubuntu__> can you give me a link or smthing from where i can download beryl?
[08:24] <anon32> ...beryl is in the universe repos....
[08:24] <aaron_> ubuntu__  I thought ubuntu has a niceness wrapper arround apt that will tell you if that package is in a different repo
[08:25] <ubuntu__> untill yesterday i was using only windows...since i was 9...so i am a noob in linux :D
[08:25] <anon32> there's sooo many people named "ubuntu" here....
[08:25] <anon32> ubuntu__, assuming you have a 7.04 Live CD, you can just turn on universe and run 'apt-get install beryl'
[08:25] <Simeon_H> because irc uses the machine name
[08:25] <Simeon_H> by default
[08:25] <anon32> ah
[08:26] <anon32> lol
[08:26] <Simeon_H> errr I mean login name
[08:26] <icecruncher> and it's more like 2 ppl
[08:26] <Simeon_H> and it's ubuntu with a live CD
[08:26] <anon32> icecruncher, there's a new "ubuntu" each day
[08:26] <icecruncher> lol
[08:26] <ubuntu__> turn on univers?
[08:26] <aaron_> ubuntu__: to turn on universe, poke arround with the package manager, and uncomment a line, or search for add a repository
[08:26] <ubuntu__> what is that? sorry ...:D
[08:27] <aaron_> ubuntu you will either edit /etc/apt/sources.list  or just use aptitude, the package manager
[08:27] <ubuntu__> and where do i find tha aptitude thingy?
[08:27] <ubuntu__> or the packet manager
[08:28] <aaron_> ubuntu__: I think there is a way to use start-> system -> adept manager to do it
[08:28] <gdiebel> aaron_: feisty has such a wrapper. if you try and run a program you don't have it tells you the package you need to apt-get. also feisty has all repos enabled by default expect backports
[08:28] <terapicodave> Jucato: sweetness that worked! thanks a lot.
[08:28] <aaron_> ubuntu__: I think you need to install it first ;)
[08:28] <Jucato> terapicodave: you're welcome :)
[08:29] <icecruncher> anybody know a software directory (web based) other than FSF?
[08:29] <aaron_> ubuntu__: there may be other livecd's that support beryl right out of the box, butit is still kinda beta
[08:29] <icecruncher> for linux naturally
[08:29] <aaron_> icecruncher: freshmeat sourceforge
[08:29] <aaron_> icecruncher: to name 2...
[08:29] <aaron_> icecruncher: tucows has a list
[08:30] <ubuntu__> oke...i am in the packae manager
[08:30] <icecruncher> thnks
[08:30] <aaron_> icecruncher: distrowatch has a list of what programs comes with the distro...
[08:30] <ubuntu__> but i cant find there beryl...does i have another name?
[08:30] <aaron_> ubuntu__: you'll probably have to install it first
[08:30] <qsu> hi
[08:30] <ubuntu__> from where??
[08:30] <ubuntu__> doesn't it have a setup?
[08:30] <aaron_> ubuntu__: kubuntu...
[08:31] <aaron_> ubuntu__:  Maybe, i think i saw something about that, but I wouldn't have put that utility on the livecd
[08:31] <anon32> ubuntu__, beryl-project.org
[08:32] <ubuntu__> i was on that site all night long
[08:32] <anon32> if you're new to Ubuntu, you probably don't wanna try setting up beryl/compiz
[08:32] <aaron_> ubuntu__ beryl is in my list...
[08:32] <wolferine> ubuntu_, trying to setup beryl?
[08:32] <aaron_> ubuntu__ of course, I have all the repositories enabled
[08:32] <ubuntu__> man....its so hard for me now....after so many years of windows its so completly different
[08:32] <aaron_> ubunu__ enabling repositories suxks the first couple of times, just search for how to do that, and maybe the berly ubuntu howto :)
[08:33] <thomas__> hi
[08:33] <ubuntu__> ok
[08:33] <ubuntu__> everything seemd to be so easy...why is beryl so hard to install?
[08:34] <thomas__> can somebody help me with a kernel question?
[08:34] <aaron_> ubuntu__ wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[08:34] <anon32> thomas__, me... maybe
[08:34] <thomas__> I need to know the differences (patches) between vanilla and kubuntu kernel
[08:34] <wolferine> ubuntu_, did you get it to install yet?
[08:34] <anon32> ubuntu__, it's not - it's just not blindingly easy
[08:35] <ubuntu__> thank you aaron
[08:35] <anon32> thomas__, oh, can't help ya there
[08:35] <thomas__> any ideas where i can get such piece of info?
[08:36] <anon32> kernel team, docs, debian changelog for kernel
[08:36] <thomas__> hmm...
[08:37] <thomas__> i wanted to join the kernel.org mailinglist, but that was no good idea (about 3000 mails per day i think)
[08:38] <thomas__> the docs do not really help and the changelog does not say "We use the xyz patch from http..." it just says: hey! you can now use your xyz hardware!"
[08:38] <wolferine> why are you interested thomas__ ?
[08:39] <thomas__> i want to compile my own kernel and want to get to know more about "the internals" ;-)
[08:39] <wolferine> good luck with that
[08:39] <anon32> thomas__, so just fetch a vanilla kernel and have fun
[08:39] <thomas__> lol
[08:39] <fdoving> thomas__: ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[08:39] <wolferine> u have a kernel to work with?
[08:40] <thomas__> i tried the <IP_ADDRESS> vanilla but it didn't start (...ok i got a kernel panic, but thats not what i call "start") ;-)
[08:40] <anon32> thomas__, heh, it's all about that 2.6.21 shiat now :-)
[08:41] <thomas__> so i used oldconfig and got 1000errors because of all the patches which where configured in the old kernel....
[08:41] <thomas__> yes true, i think i will have a look at the 2.6.21, because they say it has now better support for my S3 graphics card
[08:41] <thomas__> i have several kernels here so i would not damage much...
[08:43] <wolferine> anyone network admins?
[08:45] <thomas__> no but perhaps can i help?
[08:45] <wolferine> nope
[08:45] <Shiva88> don't be afraid to just ask your question...someone may have an answer for you :)
[08:45] <wolferine> Shiva88, in not "afraid" to ask
[08:46] <wolferine> im looking for a yes
[08:46] <fdoving> yes.
[08:46] <wolferine> fdoving, hear of nagios?
[08:46] <Shiva88> i'm sorry, i didn't mean it literally... it's a figure of speech :)
[08:46] <fdoving> wolferine: yes.
[08:46] <wolferine> iptrack?
[08:47] <fdoving> wolferine: never used iptrack.
[08:48] <wolferine> do you use anything to track users b/w, space, etc?
[08:48] <fdoving> no.
[08:48] <fdoving> you're looking for a quota system for users in your network?
[08:48] <wolferine> any other tools you might recommend, that are similar
[08:49] <wolferine> well, i want to be able to track a specific users use(processes, b/w,etc) all in one kinda thing
[08:50] <qsu> how much is enough to install kubuntu on a usbstick
[08:50] <FireTalon> at least a 1gb stick
[08:51] <fdoving> wolferine: i've done something similar on one machine, for a ppp server. with ppp-acct and acct.
[08:52] <wolferine> fdoving, can you recommend other tools as well?
[08:52] <wolferine> ethereal, I have used in the past
[08:53] <fdoving> wolferine: i guess an snmp server on each machine, if you have a network of computers, can give you some information that can be analyzed.
[08:54] <ryks> hi all
[08:54] <ryks> aldin?
[08:55] <wolferine> how long you worked in the field fdoving ?
[08:58] <fdoving> wolferine: 3 years, but i quited 2 years ago. :)
[08:58] <wolferine> ah
[08:58] <wolferine> any pointers for someone just starting out?
[08:59] <voicu> what was the command to start a program in a specific directory without cd-ing in it?
[08:59] <fdoving> wolferine: google.com is the best :)
[08:59] <fdoving> voicu: depends on the program i guess.
[08:59] <wolferine> voicu, /this/is/where/it/is/this_is_the_app_i_want_to_run
[09:00] <wolferine> fdoving, k, well thanks
[09:00] <voicu> no, i mean to set the startup directory of that program without running it while inside that directory
[09:00] <fdoving> wolferine: you can also have a look at ntop, not sure it does what you want, but it can be usefull.
[09:01] <Linux_Galore> interesting app for setting up Xorg (resolution, graphics card, mouse etc) http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/X.org+Setup?content=56982
[09:01] <fdoving> voicu: depends on the program.
[09:01] <wolferine> network top
[09:01] <voicu> there is a command for that, i just forgot it
[09:02] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: looks a lot like SUSE's YaST/SaX
[09:02] <fdoving> voicu: if there is a separate command you can use 'cd /path/to/dir', no need for another command.
[09:03] <fdoving> voicu: but as said, it depends on the program, what program is this?
[09:03] <voicu> that's the thing, i don't want to use cd /path
[09:03] <voicu> it's a python script
[09:03] <voicu> and i have to make python start in a specific directory
[09:03] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: it does a bit, although the author comments he wrote it from scratch
[09:03] <Jucato>  /path/to/executable/script.py ?
[09:04] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: I could believe him since it's only a few days ago that Novell announced that they will "open" YaST
[09:04] <voicu> yes, but the script will see the current directory. i want it to see the one it resides in
[09:05] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: although "written from scratch" doesn't mean that he also thought of the UI from scratch :)
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: well Sax could be said to be a bit of a ripoff of the kcontrol layout
[09:06] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: hm... actually... not really... but... hm.. :)
[09:06] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: first time I used YaST 2 I wasnt really surprised the layout was pretty standard
[09:07] <Jucato> it is? I find it very different from kcontrol actually
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: Im just saying the two window layout is nothing new
[09:08] <BongoBill> Hiya. If this is the support channel, I believe I have one for you. Another twist on the nvidia resolution problem that seems so popular lately.
[09:08] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: ah yes. but what I was saying is that his layout is exactly like SaX's :)
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yeah and Im saying SaX isnt really new either, Ive seen similar layouts in the early 90's
[09:10] <Jucato> oh well :)
[09:11] <Jucato> ugh ryanakca's doing again
[09:11] <BongoBill> I've installed the nvidia binary drivers, and convinced it that my monitor's resolution is not really 1024x768@43Hz (which is what it set it to initially).
[09:11] <BongoBill> The login screen's resolution is what I want it to be; however, when I log in, the resolution and refresh rate revert to the lower values, and I have to run nvidia-settings again to fix them.
[09:11] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: Im compiling it, I want to see if it has a nice mouse config option
[09:12] <BongoBill> I've even ran nvidia-settings with sudo to tell it to write the changes to xorg.conf, but to no avail.
[09:12] <BongoBill> Is this, by chance, an issue that has been encountered?
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: I manually edited my settings, the refresh changes for me but the resolution stays the same
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: what are you running
[09:14] <BongoBill> Kubuntu Feisty.
[09:14] <BongoBill> nvidia binary drivers.
[09:15] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: the drivers shouldnt really matter in this case
[09:15] <wolferine> can I remove/reinstall Apache, without touching php and mysql?
[09:15] <wolferine> and have no issues, of course...
[09:16] <BongoBill> Yeah, but I figured it'd be safer to err on the side of giving more information. Additionally, my current xorg.conf was generated by nvidia-xconfig, which as far as I know might matter.
[09:16] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: so you ran the sudo dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    thing ?
[09:16] <BongoBill> Yes, but once more couldn't hurt. One moment.
[09:16] <wolferine> BongoBill, what are you trying to do?
[09:17] <BongoBill> My resolution changes when I log in. I'm trying to get it to remember my settings.
[09:17] <wolferine> want some help?
[09:17] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: the nvidia-xconfig  changes 2-3 lines from memory and doesnt touch the resolution settings
[09:17] <wolferine> or just gonna try zserver-xorg?
[09:17] <wolferine> xserver*
[09:17] <BongoBill> I'll give that one a try and see how it goes.
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: thats pretty much rebuild the whole xorg.conf  file for you
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> rebuilds*
[09:19] <anspot> Hallo
[09:19] <BongoBill> Thanks for your help; I will be back in a minute to report on whether it worked, and thank you or continue to bother you as appropriate.
[09:23] <BongoBill> I'm back, and it's still setting my resolution back to 1024x@43Hz.
[09:23] <BongoBill> Even after dpkg-reconfiguring xserver-xorg.
[09:24] <wolferine> BongoBill, list to me
[09:24] <wolferine> listen*
[09:24] <wolferine> what are u running, feisty?
[09:24] <BongoBill> Yes.
[09:24] <wolferine> did you get the last drivers?
[09:24] <wolferine> latest*
[09:24] <BongoBill> Just tonight.
[09:24] <wolferine> how did you install them?
[09:24] <wolferine> from the nvidia site?
[09:25] <BongoBill> I switched to a gnome session and ran the Restricted Drivers tool.
[09:25] <BongoBill> Selected the Nvidia drivers, and rebooted.
[09:25] <wolferine> read the ubuntu guide (google it) for installing the latest drivers
[09:25] <wolferine> then come back, and ill help you set it up
[09:25] <BongoBill> Have it open right here, in fact.
[09:25] <BongoBill> It's what I've been referring to....
[09:25] <wolferine> good
[09:26] <wolferine> its really helpful, in my opinion
[09:27] <BongoBill> Aha. Skipped a step. Let me just take care of that...
[09:30] <BongoBill> Thanks for your help, wolferine and Linux_Galore. I'm gonna try this again.
[09:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> how can I see what the name of my laptop monitor is, and how can I look for (in google) what resolutions and refresh rates it supports?
[09:31] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, u mean your graphics card?
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> dettoaltrimenti_: eeer, its written on it, usually on the rear
[09:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> im on a laptop, and sure, the graphics card- but I have a widescreen monitor so I'm sure that has something to do with the resolutions I can use
[09:33] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, you have two monitors then
[09:33] <wolferine> or you just using one or the other?
[09:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine- I'm on a laptop.
[09:34] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, I think you stated that already, so can you just answer the question?
[09:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> no I don't have two monitors
[09:34] <fildo> !tvtuner
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <BongoBill> Well. If the nvidia drivers weren't installed before, they are now. Still, the specific issue is no closer to a resolution.
[09:35] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, your graphics card is something you need to configure to setup your resolutions, which is what I beleive you want to do
[09:36] <wolferine> BongoBill, ok, drivers are installed, thats a good start
[09:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine ok, so how do I see what graphics card I'm using
[09:36] <wolferine> now, BongoBill you want to use sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:36] <wolferine> once that is complete, you want to use sudo nvidia-settings
[09:37] <icecruncher> how do you change java versions? i have 4 and 6 installed
[09:37] <wolferine> BongoBill, fool around with the settings in there, then ask if you have a question
[09:37] <jussi01> hmmm, are there plugins for konqueror like firefox has?
[09:37] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, you would neeed to look up your laptop online
[09:37] <Jucato> jussi01: what plugins? if you mean Firefox extensions, then the answer is no
[09:37] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, and see what type of hardware is added to it
[09:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine- maybe there is a command I can type in the terminal that tells me the name of all the hardware I'm using?
[09:37] <Jucato> (although Konqueror has a few extensions of its own)
[09:37] <jussi01> Jucato: nah, just similar stuff...
[09:37] <BongoBill> I've done this before, but once more couldn't hurt. wolferine, should I hit the button to save this to xorg.conf?
[09:38] <jussi01> Jucato: where can i find konqueror extentions?
[09:38] <wolferine> BongoBill, once you have it setup the way you like, you want to view the xorg.conf
[09:38] <wolferine> BongoBill, you might want to backup your xorg.conf as well
[09:38] <BongoBill> Yes, it's backed up.
[09:38] <Jucato> jussi01: Firefox distinguishes between plugins and extensions. Plugins refer to the mini-apps that allow you to run multimedia (flash, java, etc.) Konqi has those too
[09:39] <Jucato> jussi01: I think they're already installed by default. konq-plugins is the package, and they are in Settings -> COnfigure Extensions
[09:39] <icecruncher> anyone, how to change the active java version
[09:39] <Jucato> jussi01: different Extensions will only show depending if you are browsing a web page or a directory
[09:39] <wolferine> BongoBill, once you have the settings setup, if you dont trust the nvidia-settings, you could always copy/paste the xorg.conf produced (by nvidia-settings) manually
[09:39] <jussi01> Jucato: Im after things like firegpg and stuff
[09:39] <BongoBill> wolferine: what am I looking for in xorg.conf?
[09:39] <Jucato> jussi01: ah.. no I don't think so. unless there's a KDE app that would provide that functionality in Konqueror
[09:40] <wolferine> just to ensure its correct, look at it once, then ctrl-alt-backspace (that closes X, so you will have to log back in, hopefully with the new changes)
[09:40] <Jucato> (for example KGet, the KDE Download Manager can be integrated into Konqueror)
[09:40] <wolferine> BongoBill, you arent looking for anything, you want to make sure the xorg.conf on your system, matches that in the nvidia-settings
[09:40] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, find it?
[09:40] <BongoBill> And it does. I'll return shortly.
[09:41] <fildo> !nvidia
[09:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah, it's lspci
[09:41] <BongoBill> Once again, wolferine (And I appreciate your patience), it's set the resolution back down from where I set it in nvidia-settings.
[09:44] <wolferine> BongoBill, what did you do?
[09:44] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, what is lspci?
[09:44] <BongoBill> I confirmed that xorg.conf reflected my changes in nvidia-settings, and then I restarted X with a ctrl-alt-bksp, and then I logged in again.
[09:45] <wolferine> BongoBill, and you setup some "good" res within the nvidia-settings?
[09:45] <BongoBill> Yes.
[09:45] <wolferine> post your xorg.conf (current) on pastebin pls
[09:45] <wolferine> !pastebin | BongoBill
[09:45] <ubotu> BongoBill: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:45] <BongoBill> That's handy, just a moment.
[09:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine- what I wanted. The command to get info for all your devices. I know how to fix my problem, I just wanted to know what that command was
[09:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine ^
[09:47] <wolferine> you can fix it yourself, cool :)
[09:47] <BongoBill> wolferine, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18058/ would be it
[09:48] <wolferine> BongoBill, what res are you expecting?
[09:48] <BongoBill> 1280x1024 at, I believe 50Hz.
[09:48] <wolferine> u have duals
[09:48] <BongoBill> Rather than 1024x768 at 43Hz interlaced.
[09:48] <BongoBill> No, just the one monitor.
[09:49] <chienta_mutz> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:49] <wolferine> well, you video card can handle it
[09:49] <wolferine> can your monitor?
[09:49] <BongoBill> Yes. It's displayed it in the past.
[09:50] <BongoBill> That's how I set it in nvidia-settings, and it maintained that quite comfortably, until I ended the X session.
[09:50] <wolferine> did you select the advanced in the nvidia-settings?
[09:50] <luca> good day
[09:50] <wolferine> did you do sudo nvidia-settings ?
[09:50] <BongoBill> I didn't go into the advanced settings, but I did sudo.
[09:50] <wolferine> hmmm
[09:51] <wolferine> restricted drivers set?
[09:51] <luca> can someone help me in solving a standy problem which only appears using KDE (not GNOME)?
[09:51] <BongoBill> Yes. nvidia-glx. Not legacy, not new, as I did my homework as to which drivers suppored my graphics card. (Or is it that the cards support the drivers?)
[09:52] <wolferine> u have more than one choice in the restricted drivers?
[09:53] <BongoBill> Not as such; I had been looking into installing them manually before I found the Restricted Drivers program, and noticed that there were three binary nvidia drivers (one of which applied to me). In the Restricted Drivers program itself, though, there was just the one.
[09:54] <wolferine> please, yes or no
[09:54] <BongoBill> No.
[09:54] <wolferine> ok, so you have the restricted driver set?
[09:54] <BongoBill> I do.
[09:54] <wolferine> ok
[09:54] <wolferine> can you take screen shots?
[09:54] <BongoBill> Of...?
[09:55] <wolferine> yes or no
[09:55] <amorphous_> well.... i not used K for years, and now I'm giving it another go - 's pretty good, eh!!!
[09:55] <amorphous_> ;D
[09:55] <wolferine> prtscn usually does it
[09:55] <BongoBill> Yes, I can.
[09:55] <amorphous_> all hail to the K team!
[09:55] <wolferine> k, so do this
[09:55] <BongoBill> Just had to make sure I could paste them anywhere.
[09:55] <wolferine> sudo nvidia-settings
[09:55] <luca> anyone who can help me?
[09:56] <BongoBill> done
[09:56] <wolferine> in the server settings, go to X Server Display Config
[09:56] <wolferine> Click on the Advanced button
[09:56] <amorphous_> however.... that's not why I came in here! anyone know anything of using ssh (or should I be in another channel for that?)
[09:56] <wolferine> under metamode press the 1
[09:56] <amorphous_> luca - with ..?
[09:56] <wolferine> once it comes up, take a screenshot of that
[09:57] <wolferine> with the correct res you would like
[09:57] <luca> amorphous: on my dell inspiron standby works with GNOME only, not KDE
[09:57] <wolferine> then add it to http://imageshack.us/ so I can view it (save it as a .jpg before you upload it)
[09:57] <luca> no idea about why
[09:58] <wolferine> amorphous_, what about ssh, I dont see a question
[09:58] <aaron_> luca, is there a tool to enable it in kde?
[09:59] <luca> aaron: I just installed kubuntu and tried to use the suspend button - onbviously I am running a ubuntu/kubuntu system :)
[09:59] <BongoBill> Right, just a moment.
[09:59] <luca> it functions flawlessly with gdm, resumes to black screen with kdm
[09:59] <amorphous_> wolferine: sorry - I want to use automated scripts to copy files to seperate machines, but want to be secure (passphrase) - i cant seem to find out how to automate it with a passphrase... :/
[09:59] <wolferine> BongoBill, when ever your ready
[10:00] <aaron_> luca: yeah, I'm just running in a virtual machine, and don't really have a way to test... but speculating shoul dhelp keep your conversation open ;)
[10:00] <wolferine> amorphous_, copy files, what about nfs, samba, etc?
[10:00] <BongoBill> wolferine, http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2447/nvidiaxserversettingslp0.jpg
[10:00] <aaron_> luca: take a look in the control panel...
[10:00] <luca> ok :) obviously it's a KDE configuration problem, as GNOME functions - problem is I do not have any error output
[10:01] <amorphous_> wolferine: the files are in other locations... I'm setting up machines in different parts of the city. they are to back up to each other...
[10:01] <wolferine> BongoBill, i needed to view the Metamode
[10:01] <wolferine> what is it, under the 1 - ...
[10:01] <wolferine> the first res
[10:01] <BongoBill> 1280x1024 +0 +0
[10:02] <wolferine> Configuration (if you have it) ?
[10:02] <BongoBill> It was originally set to metamode 13, which, by a startling coincidence, is exactly the resolution it kept reverting to! Imagine that.
[10:02] <luca> aaron : where should I look?
[10:02] <luca> in kcontrol I mean
[10:02] <BongoBill> Configuration. Right. Of what, specifically? The nvidia configuration, or xorg?
[10:02] <amorphous_> luca - not too sure about that, sorry - hang on...
[10:03] <wolferine> there is a Configuration (maybe) set in the Nvidia X Server Settings (the same app yu took the screen shto from)
[10:03] <amorphous_> luca - I dont seem to have a standby on my logout menu... that what you mean?
[10:03] <luca> amorphous - ok thanks :)
[10:03] <wolferine> dang keyboard :/
[10:03] <luca> amorphous : no idea of which entry I should look at, yeah :-/
[10:03] <luca> no wait
[10:04] <luca> I have a standby button
[10:04] <BongoBill> I'm sorry, I'm afraid I don't understand the question. Do you want me to take a screenshot of the metamode list?
[10:04] <luca> problem is it resumes to black screen
[10:04] <luca> and I am forced to rebbot
[10:04] <wolferine> BongoBill, how many MetaModes are in there?
[10:04] <wolferine> just 1?
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> things to come with Beryl -> http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre3/56770-3.jpg
[10:04] <BongoBill> Fifty-two.
[10:04] <amorphous_> luca - is suspend the same thing?
[10:05] <BongoBill> When I opened it for the first time, the thirteenth was selected.
[10:05] <wolferine> BongoBill, why so many?
[10:05] <luca> yes
[10:05] <BongoBill> Beats me.
[10:05] <luca> suspend to ram
[10:05] <wolferine> BongoBill, can you delete all but 1
[10:05] <BongoBill> I'll give it a try.
[10:05] <wolferine> k
[10:06] <jujimufu> heya guys
[10:06] <BongoBill> wolferine, it's now just the one.
[10:06] <wolferine> then view your xorg.conf (the one generated by nvidia-settings) and see if it matches your xorg.conf (the system is currently using)
[10:07] <wolferine> BongoBill, if you didnt notice, your screen shot is covering up part of the X Server Settings... so the reason i asked that question before was, I could not see it
[10:07] <BongoBill> Ah. I'll just check real quick....
[10:07] <wolferine> BongoBill, do you think you might be able to take a better screen shot, but opening the window a bit more?
[10:07] <wolferine> as appose to hiding some info....
[10:08] <ryks> salut voicu!!!!!!!!!!
[10:08] <wolferine> and if you clcik on the 1 in MetaMode, then take the screenshot, then I can ACTUALLY see what it is
[10:08] <ryks> am nevoie de ajutor
[10:08] <wolferine> rather than have to ask you..
[10:08] <ryks> ro?
[10:08] <icecruncher> !fr > ryks
[10:08] <wolferine> ice | instead of >
[10:08] <ryks> aha
[10:09] <wolferine> bonjour ryks
[10:09] <ryks> this name is usual in ro
[10:09] <ryks> :)
[10:09] <wolferine> ah
[10:09] <BongoBill> wolferine, line 66        Option "Metamodes"     now contains only one screen resolution (1280x1024), as opposed to several which it had previously.
[10:09] <ryks> ola
[10:09] <ryks> salut
[10:09] <wolferine> BongoBill, that will probably help
[10:09] <wolferine> salut
[10:09] <wolferine> :)
[10:09] <ryks> need a little help
[10:09] <wolferine> ryks, ask away
[10:10] <icecruncher> with?
[10:10] <ryks> so i have kubunto on my comp
[10:10] <ryks> kubuntu
[10:10] <wolferine> ryks please just make it a one line question...
[10:10] <ryks> i am new in linux
[10:10] <wolferine> ;)
[10:10] <wolferine> still no question...
[10:10] <jujimufu> lol :P
[10:11] <jujimufu> so guys, which one's better, Beryl or compiz?
[10:11] <wolferine> beryl
[10:11] <ryks> need to view a movie but i don t have a good player
[10:11] <wolferine> ryks, vlc
[10:11] <BongoBill> wolferine, I will be back in just a moment. Thanks for your help.
[10:11] <wolferine> np
[10:11] <ryks> how can i install a player in kubuntu?
[10:11] <icecruncher> sudo aptitude install vlc
[10:11] <wolferine> ryks, use the ubuntu guide (google it)
[10:12] <wolferine> it explains everything to setup your system
[10:12] <wolferine> wow, its late
[10:12] <ryks> i am out on install stuff in linux(new)
[10:12] <ryks> a link please
[10:12] <blekos> so u know any program for disk cataloging
[10:12] <wolferine> ryks, im sure you know how to google
[10:12] <blekos> *do
[10:12] <jujimufu> rysk: just go to google.com, and search for "kubuntu install guide"
[10:13] <wolferine> just ubuntu guide
[10:13] <wolferine> like I said
[10:13] <ryks> thz
[10:13] <ryks> too kind
[10:13] <jujimufu> ryks: we're not here to feed you, we're here to teach you how to eat yourself :P
[10:13] <ryks> hehe k
[10:14] <blekos> do u know any program for disk cataloging?
[10:14] <ryks> i am just trying to instal with adept but too many errors i have
[10:14] <jujimufu> ryks: what about ubuntuguide.org?
[10:14] <icecruncher> how much do you guys think that the ubuntu comunity has grown sice the release or feisty
[10:15] <jujimufu> ryks: are you logged in as root?
[10:15] <wolferine> ryks, read the guide
[10:15] <jujimufu> you mean, in the last two days?
[10:15] <wolferine> anyone know how to setup Thunderbird to check a hotmail account (what are the incoming servers, etc..) ?
[10:16] <ryks> yes and i have a player called cofeine but nedd codecs
[10:16] <icecruncher> wolferine: does hotmail support pop?
[10:16] <ryks> don t run dvix stuff and xvid
[10:16] <jujimufu> ryks: check EasyUbuntu and automatix, if you want lots of stuff automatically installed on your bx
[10:16] <jujimufu> *box
[10:16] <Jucato> !automatix
[10:16] <jujimufu> icecruncher: probably not. But gmail does.
[10:16] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:16] <wolferine> icecruncher, so it might not be possible
[10:17] <icecruncher> yep
[10:17] <Jucato> ryks: just install libxine-extracodecs and you're good to go
[10:17] <wolferine> yep, it might not, or yep, it should
[10:17] <ryks> are the same platforms ubuntu vs kubuntu?
[10:17] <wolferine> :)
[10:17] <jujimufu> !easyubuntu
[10:17] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:17] <wolferine> ryks READ
[10:17] <wolferine> last time I am telling you
[10:17] <ryks> ths
[10:17] <wolferine> np
[10:17] <jujimufu> ryks: all of this is answered on the ubuntulinux.com homepage
[10:17] <jujimufu> and wiki
[10:17] <wolferine> and in the GUIDe
[10:18] <ryks> i am on it
[10:18] <Jucato> !mp3 | ryks
[10:18] <ryks> :)
[10:18] <ubotu> ryks: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:18] <wolferine> !read | ryks
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about read - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <jujimufu> it's like going to channels and asking people "is google a search engine?" "do I just press enter and it searches for me?" "do I have to put keywords in it, or do I just think really hard about what I want and I press "I feel lucky"?"
[10:18] <jujimufu> lol
[10:18] <wolferine> press lucky!
[10:19] <wolferine> so jujimufu can you check a hotmail with thunderbird?
[10:19] <wolferine> account*
[10:19] <jujimufu> wolferine: I don't know. I am using thunderbird for my gmail account, though.
[10:20] <jujimufu> wolferine: I've never been a big fan of hotmail anyway :P
[10:20] <Jucato> wolferine: 1) only if hotmail provides you with a pop3 account/service or 2) use some special apps to download the emails from hotmail and then feed it into thunderbird
[10:20] <jujimufu> wolferine: from google: "MSN HotMail provides no POP3 and SMTP servers for free accounts,"
[10:20] <jujimufu> so, if you have bought an account, pop3 might be available.
[10:20] <wolferine> IMAP?
[10:20] <Jucato> there are "ways" to do it though... you'll have to Google for it
[10:20] <Jucato> something like freepops I think
[10:21] <jujimufu> wolferine: from google again: "Unfortunately, Hotmail lacks POP or IMAP "
[10:21] <Jucato> !info freepops
[10:21] <ubotu> freepops: POP3 interface to several webmails. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.99-1+patches20061018 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 1252 kB
[10:21] <wolferine> if I wanted google, I would have done it myself :P
[10:21] <Jucato> well, at least now you know what to google for :P
[10:21] <Jucato> google for thunderbird, hotmail, and freepops
[10:21] <jujimufu> wolferine: then don't tell ryks to google, when you don't :P
[10:22] <Jucato> play nice people :)
[10:22] <jujimufu> wolfering: check this: "The WebMail extension for Thunderbird enables access to Yahoo, Hotmail, Lycos"
[10:22] <jujimufu> maybe check that out?
[10:27] <BongoBill> wolferine, I'm sorry to report that it, plus a few other creative ideas related to those metamodes, had no effect.
[10:28] <wolferine> Bongo you can always manually edit your xorg.conf
[10:28] <BongoBill> Looks like I'll have to. Thank you anyway.
[10:28] <wolferine> np
[10:29] <Alarm> goodmorning , i got a problem with my resolution on feisty. no matter if i choose 85hz from the nvidia setting tool., on the next reboot the monitor turns always to 75hz (even if i save it from the tool to the xorg file). on the monitor and display tool from of fiesty i dont got 85hz to chose, just 95, and then some others with 60,54 and so on what can i do ?
[10:29] <BongoBill> No way, I was just dealing with the same problem.
[10:29] <BongoBill> Found no resolution, unfortunately, but there's hope yet!
[10:29] <wolferine> there ya go Alarm
[10:29] <Alarm> there i go what ?
[10:30] <BongoBill> Spoke too soon, wolferine. I don't have an answer for you, Alarm, I just mean that you and I have solidarity.
[10:30] <BongoBill> I'm trying something, though. Might work.
[10:31] <wolferine> im sure you two can work together and get it to work
[10:31] <BongoBill> Have to restart X; just a moment.
[10:31] <Alarm> i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[10:31] <Alarm> but i cant understand much
[10:31] <BongoBill> Blast. Nothing.
[10:32] <BongoBill> Perhaps the answer lies in #nvidia, or someone with experience with this issue is hanging out in #ubuntu.
[10:32] <wolferine> BongoBill, use #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <BongoBill> I shal.
[10:33] <BongoBill> l.
[10:33] <Alarm> weird. many people seem to have that problem
[10:33] <Alarm> anyway. in the modelines i see the resolution that i want
[10:34] <Alarm> can i reconfigure xorg just for the resolution and not keyboard and all that stuff that normally i am asked ?
[10:35] <jujimufu> Alarm: yes, but you'd have to edit xorg.conf
[10:35] <Alarm> wish i knew what i need to change...
[10:35] <jujimufu> yeah
[10:35] <insmod> Alarm: yes
[10:35] <jujimufu> so, better do the xorgconf from the beginning
[10:35] <Alarm> and how ?
[10:36] <jujimufu> although I don't think that when you start it again it loses all configurations.
[10:36] <Alarm> i know
[10:36] <insmod> Alarm: add it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:36] <Alarm> thats why i asked about the specific configuration
[10:36] <Alarm> insmod,  i know which file it is .
[10:36] <Alarm> i cant figure out all the settings with the refresh rate of the monitor
[10:36] <insmod> Alarm: ?
[10:37] <Alarm> yes
[10:37] <wolferine> anyone use Webmail for Thunderbird, I cannot setup an account for my hotmail
[10:37] <jujimufu> wolferine: maybe check out the site's manual?
[10:37] <insmod> Alarm: so your monitor was not detected ?
[10:37] <wolferine> jujimufu, once again, your just not doing it for me
[10:37] <Alarm> insmod,  my monitor was detected
[10:37] <jujimufu> wolferine, once again, you're not doing what you tell other people to do :P
[10:38] <insmod> Alarm: just add the hz vf
[10:38] <Alarm> i quote:  i got a problem with my resolution on feisty. no matter if i choose 85hz from the nvidia setting tool., on the next reboot the monitor turns always to 75hz (even if i save it from the tool to the xorg file). on the monitor and display tool from of fiesty i dont got 85hz to chose, just 95, and then some others with 60,54 and so on what can i do ?
[10:38] <insmod> Alarm: then
[10:38] <Alarm> insmod, if you think i would understand which setting that is , i would be here asking ?
[10:38] <wolferine> jujimufu, i only do what I choose, not what some other person thinks I should do
[10:38] <wolferine> jujimufu, im gonna have to add you to ignore
[10:39] <jujimufu> oi, that's tough...
[10:39] <jujimufu> it's pity you won't see what I type, I am usually a pretty funny guy.  You just went on bashing ryks for not using google of the kubuntu docs, and there you are, asking us about stuff you can find on the net.
[10:40] <insmod> Alarm: sudo and fix the xorg -- you can't fix it via gui because the sudo can not do that with the prog -- just edit via sudo mc vi etc
[10:40] <insmod> easy
[10:40] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, client or server?
[10:40] <jujimufu> I prefer nano
[10:40] <Alarm> insmod,  if its easy to tell me something else of what i am doing at the moment ,do so instead of pretenting the smart one
[10:40] <bonaldo2000> wolferine: client...sorry
[10:41] <insmod> jujimufu: mc is better lol
[10:41] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, coming from winblows, I like filezilla
[10:41] <ryks> ???
[10:41] <ryks> don t understand
[10:41] <ryks> explain
[10:41] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, you can alway search for FTP in the package manager, and see if you find others, and give them a try
[10:41] <bonaldo2000> wolferine: ok, I use that also, but I think its bad in kubuntu compared to the windows version, seems incomplete somehow
[10:41] <jujimufu> insmod: I prefer simple stuff :D
[10:41] <insmod> Alarm: edit xorg
[10:41] <ryks> aha
[10:41] <ryks> yap
[10:42] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, so you want alot of bells and whistles by the sounds of it
[10:42] <ryks> miising alot of stuff here in this pakage
[10:42] <Alarm> insmod,  thats what i am doing the last hour, i didnt wait for that kind of answer
[10:42] <jujimufu> rkys: who are you talking to? lol :P
[10:42] <jujimufu> Alarm: ok. Can you post your xorg.conf on pastebin or something?
[10:42] <Alarm> sure
[10:42] <jujimufu> Alarm: and tell me what you want to change your resolution to.
[10:42] <wolferine> ryks, i realize your new, but typing all your thoughts into the channel isnt geting you anywhere, and you never really ever ask a question
[10:43] <insmod> Alarm: what the hell man xorg
[10:43] <wolferine> ryks, you might want to work on your approach...
[10:43] <bonaldo2000> wolferine: not really, but filezilla in kubuntu just has a rather ugly UI and small things annoy me, like it doesnt remember the dir I was in (on my own computer) when I start it up...it does this in windows.....stuff like that
[10:43] <Alarm> jujimufu,  http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3327
[10:43] <insmod> Alarm: i can help but i can't do it for you -- learn yourself
[10:43] <ryks> in this matter really don t help me guys
[10:43] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, edit the config file for the program?
[10:43] <ryks> i just trying but
[10:44] <Alarm> i want to put on 1024x768 on 85hz
[10:44] <wolferine> ryks, like I said, not one question yet
[10:44] <wolferine> ryks, its all in the ubuntu guide, you might want to take a bit more time and read it over, since its only been about 10-20 mins
[10:44] <Alarm> even on my nvidia setting tool, i think things are messed up. cause i see 3-4 times the same resolution listed
[10:44] <bonaldo2000> wolferine: could try to play with that. But just wanted to hear if there was some program that people use, you know some brialliant ftp client or something...
[10:45] <ryks> have on my desktop a arhive called xine-ui-0.99.4.tar
[10:45] <ryks> right?
[10:45] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, alot of FTP clients are great, but you just have to look for it
[10:45] <wolferine> ryks, read the guide
[10:45] <insmod> ryks: untar it
[10:45] <insmod> ryks: man tar
[10:45] <wolferine> insmod, good luck
[10:45] <ryks> so how can i install on my computer
[10:45] <wolferine> ryks its in the guide
[10:46] <wolferine> sudo aptitude get xine
[10:46] <voicu> ok, so i'm running feisty with all the updates and ktorrent seems to crash when it's in the tray and the monitor goes into standby. anyone else with this problem? also, how can i stop the standby from happening? at least as a short term solution
[10:46] <insmod> ryks: man tar
[10:46] <ryks> i am out -thz
[10:46] <wolferine> i mean, aptitude install xine
[10:46] <insmod> EXAMPLES
[10:46] <insmod>        tar -xvvf foo.tar
[10:46] <insmod>               extract foo.tar
[10:46] <insmod>        tar -xvvzf foo.tar.gz
[10:46] <insmod>               extract gzipped foo.tar.gz
[10:46] <insmod>        tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/
[10:46] <insmod>               tar contents of folder foo in foo.tar
[10:46] <ryks> doesn t work guys like that
[10:46] <wolferine> !pastebin | insmod
[10:46] <ubotu> insmod: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:47] <ryks> is just an arhive
[10:47] <jujimufu> Alarm: check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[10:47] <insmod> ryks: ?
[10:47] <Alarm> jujimufu,  thats what i have allready open :)
[10:48] <ryks> nedd to install not to unpaked
[10:48] <ryks> :)
[10:48] <Alarm> let me restart x
[10:48] <insmod> ryks: yes it is
[10:48] <jujimufu> Alarm: lol, ok :P
[10:49] <insmod> ryks: unpake it then install or use fakeroot
[10:50] <ryks> aha
[10:50] <jujimufu> Alarm: what resolution do you have right now?
[10:50] <ryks> firts true respond
[10:50] <ryks> first
[10:50] <insmod> ryks: there ya go
[10:51] <ryks> so what is a fakeroot?
[10:51] <insmod> ryks: debian creats the deb file so you can dkpg it
[10:52] <ryks> just open the console ?
[10:52] <ryks> and type make instal.....
[10:52] <insmod> ryks: why not just untar and compile it it would be faster
[10:52] <wolferine> or u could just get the package, since it is already setup for you
[10:52] <wolferine> but that would be too easy
[10:53] <ryks> yap but new in buisness
[10:53] <insmod> ryks: no that is only after untared
[10:53] <purpleposeidon> I'm on fiesty; how do I make ctrl-alt-del halt instead of restart?
[10:53] <insmod> tar -xvvf foo.tar then do that
[10:54] <ryks> aha
[10:54] <wolferine> anyone use Webmail for Thunderbird, I cannot setup an account for my hotmail
[10:54] <insmod> purpleposeidon: edit inittab
[10:55] <purpleposeidon> whereis inittab?
[10:55] <ryks> must  read the ubuntu guide -thz for support guys :)
[10:56] <insmod> cat /etc/inittab
[10:57] <purpleposeidon> no such file or directory
[10:57] <insmod> purpleposeidon: i am on debian lol
[10:58] <insmod> purpleposeidon: know idea waht you call it
[10:59] <purpleposeidon> upstart, something... :/
[10:59] <purpleposeidon> ah I found it
[10:59] <insmod> purpleposeidon: is it on kubuntu?
[10:59] <purpleposeidon>  /etc/event.d/control-alt-delete
[11:00] <insmod> purpleposeidon: lil init.d is easier
[11:01] <fildo_> !tvtuner
[11:01] <icecruncher>
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <fildo_> !tuner
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Alarm> i still have the same problem with the refresh rate. i reconfigured xorg. what i find strange is that the splash screen is in the proper resolution and refresh rate but when loggin in it changes
[11:06] <Alarm> in the modelines i see the resolution that i want 1024x768_85 hz , but not in the list of the tools to choose it
[11:07] <pafnutiy> hi all! i'm new in ubuntu, i want to ask question about gnome. why my media players (totem, for ex.) don't play videos from LAN? thanks.
[11:09] <LazyIdiot> Hi all
[11:10] <LazyIdiot> Anyone there ??
[11:10] <Aattila> hi! i can't run amarok. it says updating database and then this window disappears and happens nothing. can anybody help me?
[11:10] <LazyIdiot> Its one of my probs too :s
[11:13] <pingveno> I'm trying to write a script that puts my laptop into sleep mode at the end of the script, but I can't find the necessary command.
[11:13] <pingveno> by sleep I mean suspend
[11:17] <_4strO> pingveno: shutdown, halt ?
[11:17] <pingveno> Don't those just bring the computer down?
[11:17] <pingveno> I mean, restart/shutdown?
[11:18] <LazyIdiot> shutdown now .. would help
[11:18] <renato> hi, I have installed the ati-drivers (I'm on feisty) and I wanted to set up a big desktop. X starts as a big desktop but it reverses to a "clone" after I login. I have seen in a forum to go to the control panel and set the resolution there, but when I do that X crashes. is there a config file I can edit manually?
[11:19] <ryks> back
[11:19] <_4strO> renato: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:19] <squall9900> ih how do i extract rar files
[11:19] <_4strO> squall9900: with ark
[11:19] <LazyIdiot> I've installed xmms using apt-get, but, I can't see any TEXT on menu. Can any one help me out.
[11:19] <Alarm> sorry i cant figure out anymore.  i still cant set my monitor on 1024x768@85 hz. the splash screen is on the resolution i want. but when i log on , it goes always on 75hz
[11:19] <Jucato> squall9900: install the package "unrar" and you can use Ark to extract them
[11:20] <Alarm> no matter if i choose again and again from the nvidia tool or from the monitor tool of kubuntu 85hz
[11:20] <squall9900> thanks
[11:20] <renato> _4strO in there I already have the setup for the big desktop but, it gets reverted back to cloen mode when I login
[11:20] <Alarm> no matter if i confidured xorg.conf
[11:20] <Alarm> can someone help me
[11:20] <Jucato> hm... that seems to be a recurring problem lately...
[11:20] <_4strO> renato: what did you mean by "big desktop" ?
[11:21] <renato> I have two monitors and I wanted to use them both, one option is the so called "big desktop"
[11:21] <Alarm> in the xorg i see:   modeline  "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
[11:21] <Alarm>  as also  modes "1024x768@85" "1024x768@75" "832x624@75" ....
[11:22] <renato> big desktop is when you configure one device whose virtual resolution spans across multiple monitors
[11:22] <Alarm> in the monitor tool , first i had the option of 85hz and now just some strange ones like 100,99,57,53,52 but nothing with 85
[11:22] <Alarm> just in the nvidia tool, that it exists 85, but even if i save it . again on the next restart i got it on 75hz
[11:23] <Alarm> read here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 , but didnt figure out or didnt help me much
[11:23] <_4strO> Alarm: can you past your xorg.conf
[11:23] <squall9900> were do i get unrar
[11:23] <Alarm> sure
[11:23] <_4strO> paste*
[11:23] <_4strO> !unrar
[11:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:24] <nuu> hi all
[11:24] <Alarm> http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3328
[11:24] <sonoftheclayr> hi
[11:24] <Alarm> there it is
[11:24] <Alarm> what i find strange is that on the splash screen i get 1024x768@85 hz , but not when it logs in
[11:25] <Aattila> can anybody help with amarok? it updates database when i run it, but then happens nothing
[11:25] <Alarm> i adjusted the monitor many times as a maximum resolution of 1600x1200@76 or 70hz , but nothing
[11:25] <Alarm> didnt have that problem with kubuntu 6.10 at all actually
[11:26] <_4strO> Alarm: what do you want exactly ?
[11:26] <pingveno> _4strO: For the record, running dcop on power-manager is a good way to suspend/hibernate
[11:26] <Alarm> to have finally:  1024x768@85 hz
[11:26] <nuu> i'd like to submit a bug to launchpad, but i wonder which project i should pick
[11:26] <Alarm> only that :)
[11:26] <_4strO> pingveno: ok good :)
[11:26] <pingveno> In my case, dcop power-manager-5532 power-manager suspend
[11:26] <_4strO> thx
[11:26] <nuu> the problem is with my vaio laptop and AC power...whenever AC power is plugged in, kde icon animations are slower
[11:26] <nuu> whenever its plugged out, it gets faster
[11:26] <_4strO> Alarm: and actually you have ?
[11:26] <nuu> should i submit this to the main kde project bug list?
[11:26] <pingveno> Well, time to finish that script
[11:27] <Alarm> i can set that configuration through the nvidia tool. but on the next reboot i get again a configuration that i dont want. like the settings are not being saved
[11:27] <nuu> we're talking just kde animations btw, not cpu slowdown
[11:27] <Alarm> _4strO,  actually , i have all the other resolutions excepts of that
[11:27] <_4strO> lol
[11:27] <squall9900> ok plez help howdo i get unrar do i use adept
[11:28] <Alarm> now i see in my monitor setting tool of kubuntu only 100,99,57,53,52 but nothing with 85 (on1024x768)
[11:28] <guhhh> i cant load konversation, i get some errors, can someone help? i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18062/
[11:29] <_4strO> unrar | squall9900:
[11:29] <_4strO> !unrar | squall9900:
[11:29] <ubotu> squall9900:: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:29] <USMarine> my xorg.conf is fine, however kdm doesn't auto start
[11:29] <_4strO> Alarm: did you have two screen ?
[11:29] <USMarine> have you got any idea why?
[11:29] <Alarm> no
[11:29] <Alarm> i have just one
[11:30] <Alarm> _4strO,  did u see the xorg.conf i pasted ?
[11:30] <nuu> USMarine: sudo apt-get install rcconf && rcconf
[11:30] <nuu> go to "kdm", hit space bar, go to OK, hit space bar, reboot
[11:30] <USMarine> tks
[11:31] <_4strO> Alarm: yep$
[11:31] <USMarine> gonna try that
[11:31] <nuu> np
[11:31] <_4strO> Alarm: i try to understand some part of it
[11:31] <Alarm> hope u will, as i didnt :)
[11:32] <_4strO> Alarm: but by default wich resolution is used ?
[11:32] <squall9900> unrar utility
[11:32] <Alarm> _4strO,  depends on how i make my changes
[11:32] <Alarm> now i think i got something with 800x600
[11:33] <guhhh> i cant load konversation, i get some errors, can someone help? i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18062/
[11:33] <guhhh> i hate use gaim! please help :(
[11:34] <Alarm> rebooting., hold one
[11:35] <_4strO> Alarm: perhaps just try to add other depth lines
[11:36] <guhhh> damn, lol...
[11:36] <guhhh> i guess i will have to reinstall my system
[11:36] <Alarm> ok now restart x. the resolutions i get on 1024x768 are from 50 to 58hz only
[11:36] <squall9900> ok how do i install unrar on Ark
[11:37] <guhhh> !konversation
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <nuu> guhhh: from a terminal, ps awux | grep kded
[11:37] <nuu> paste output
[11:38] <guhhh> nuu nothing
[11:38] <squall9900> ubotu rar how do iin stall it
[11:38] <Alarm> now all i managed again was the splash screen to be ok . but not the resolution after logging in. i got now again 1024x768@75 and not 85 hz that i want
[11:38] <guhhh> nuu: im on debian, just to make u know
[11:39] <nuu> sudo kded
[11:39] <nuu> see if that helps
[11:39] <guhhh> but i used to run konversation, i guess that something that i installed made it dont work anymore :(
[11:40] <guhhh> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[11:40] <guhhh> Aborted
[11:40] <guhhh> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[11:40] <guhhh> Aborted
[11:40] <guhhh> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[11:40] <guhhh> Aborted
[11:40] <guhhh> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[11:40] <guhhh> Aborted
[11:40] <guhhh> nuu:
[11:40] <guhhh> ops, sorry.
[11:40] <nuu> sudo dcopstart
[11:40] <nuu> hm
[11:40] <nuu> sec
[11:40] <_4strO> Alarm: you should remove all the modeline lines
[11:40] <guhhh> dcopstart kded ?
[11:41] <Alarm> as i said i also reconfigured xorg but nothing
[11:41] <Alarm> ok lets say i removed them. and then ?
[11:41] <nuu> sudo dcopserver
[11:41] <_4strO> (just put an # in front of them)
[11:41] <Alarm> then ?
[11:41] <guhhh> nuu: i still get the same error
[11:42] <_4strO> Alarm:
[11:42] <_4strO> Section "Monitor"
[11:42] <_4strO>         Identifier      "P95f"
[11:42] <_4strO>         Option          "DPMS"
[11:42] <_4strO> EndSection
[11:42] <_4strO> it's mine ;)
[11:42] <nuu> did it say it started ?
[11:42] <guhhh> nuu: yes, it did
[11:42] <guhhh> It looks like dcopserver is already running.
[11:42] <nuu> ps awux | grep dcopserver
[11:42] <_4strO> Alarm: and try to have other depth lines
[11:42] <guhhh> i got this message when i tried the second time :)
[11:42] <nuu> ah right
[11:43] <nuu> then sudo kded
[11:43] <nuu> again
[11:43] <_4strO> Alarm: you anly have depth 24
[11:43] <guhhh>  7930  0.0  0.2  48944  5012 ?        S    05:41   0:00 dcopserver
[11:43] <guhhh> nuu
[11:43] <guhhh> kded: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[11:43] <guhhh> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[11:44] <nuu> what did you install recently ?
[11:45] <guhhh> well, a lot of things, cant remember
[11:45] <guhhh> :(
[11:46] <_4strO> guhhh: are you root when you try to launch konversation ?
[11:46] <guhhh> yes
[11:46] <_4strO> thqt's the reason why ...
[11:47] <guhhh> lol, i see
[11:47] <nuu> hah
[11:47] <guhhh> i will relog then
[11:48] <guhhh> same problem...
[11:48] <_4strO> mmm
[11:49] <_4strO> launch konversation in a console and paste the entire error message plz
[11:50] <guhhh> ERROR: Communication problem with konversation, it probably crashed.
[11:50] <ricky_ds> Hi all. I just had a voice chat over windows with a friend using yahoo messenger. I was wondering if such a thing is also possible over kubuntu. I'm currently using kopete, but if it doesn't support voice chat, I'm open for anything else. What are the options?
[11:50] <guhhh> _4strO: thats it ERROR: Communication problem with konversation, it probably crashed.
[11:50] <_4strO> guhhh: ok
[11:51] <guhhh> _4strO:  now that ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[11:51] <guhhh> ERROR: Communication problem with konversation, it probably crashed.
[11:51] <guhhh> tried to reinstall... useless
[11:54] <_4strO> guhhh: sure you dont execute it in root ?
[11:54] <guhhh> no, im not as root :(
[11:56] <blekos> do u have any disk catalog tool 2 suggest?
[11:57] <guhhh> _4strO: well, my echo $USER says root, but im not as root, shouldnt be. id log with my own account :(
[11:59] <_4strO> guhhh: try tu 'su youruserAccount'
[11:59] <_4strO> then launch konversation
[11:59] <oem_> Hallo zusammen wie kann ich als oem angemeldet fr den pfad /usr/local/bin die rechte 755 einstellen?
[11:59] <_4strO> !de | oem_
[11:59] <ubotu> oem_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:59] <USMarine> guhhh use kopete
[12:00] <USMarine> !de | oem_
[12:00] <_4strO> bl
[12:00] <_4strO> blekos: disk catalog ?
[12:00] <_4strO> ho i see :p
[12:01] <blekos> disk cataloging
[12:01] <guhhh> _4strO: okay, now i got another error, lol
[12:02] <blekos> i have about 100cds/dvds and need to know their index, so i'm looking 4 a software like broken cross
[12:02] <guhhh> !pastebin
[12:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:02] <guhhh> _4strO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18065/
[12:03] <_4strO> ok
[12:04] <_4strO> blekos: try to finf one in adept (seach catalog or something like thios)
[12:05] <jlilly> slight problem. My sound is being a bit wonky.
[12:05] <jlilly> I just restarted and it plays in one ear of my headphones. I went to adjust the volume in kmix, and the volume went dead
[12:05] <_4strO> guhhh: weird all this
[12:05] <blekos> ok thnx
[12:06] <_4strO> blekos: sorry i dont use catalog, for my mp3, amarok works fine
[12:06] <blekos> :)
[12:06] <_4strO> but have all them in my HD
[12:07] <guhhh> _4strO: really!
[12:07] <blekos> my HD is out 2days now... so until i buy a new one..
[12:07] <guhhh> its really annoying :-(
[12:08] <_4strO> guhhh: why have you open a root session !
[12:08] <_4strO> :p
[12:08] <guhhh> i didnt
[12:08] <guhhh> i forgot that my terminal is open as root
[12:08] <guhhh> :P
[12:08] <_4strO> ha ok
[12:08] <guhhh> because its debian :D
[12:09] <kinp> I have a major problem.
[12:09] <deviance> !avi
[12:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:09] <guhhh> so do i :(
[12:09] <fildo> !samba
[12:09] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:10] <deviance> What package/player can i use to get avi's working?
[12:10] <kinp> I can't connect to my wireless network,
[12:10] <xiantia> hi all
[12:10] <kinp> And the logof is fucked
[12:10] <guhhh> _4strO: lol, i receive a mail from my system when that error occurs
[12:11] <kinp> hehe
[12:12] <kinp> But how do I make the network work? It says it finds my netwrok but the lights doens't flash
[12:12] <xiantia> i have some pb with new kernel 2.6.20, and wireless ipw2200. i can ping www.yahoo.fr but under kde kmail, konversation, firefox, ... not work. it work under 2.6.17 kernel
[12:12] <_4strO> guhhh: try to type 'xhost +' and then retry to open konvers
[12:13] <_4strO> !codecs | deviance
[12:13] <ubotu> deviance: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <Mena> Hi, Is there an app works Fine and fine with subtitles
[12:14] <_4strO> Mena: kaffeine, vlc, ...
[12:15] <_4strO> Mena: mplayer
[12:15] <Mena> _4strO, ok
[12:15] <Mena> Thanks :)
[12:15] <_4strO> Mena: think all application just work fine (with subs)
[12:15] <Mena> ok
[12:15] <Mena> but not english
[12:16] <_4strO> what ?
[12:16] <Mena> i mean the subs wich are not english
[12:16] <_4strO> what the diff ?
[12:16] <Mena> i have a subtitle (Arabic)
[12:17] <Mena> wich works wrong every time and wuth every player
[12:17] <Mena> with*
[12:17] <_4strO> Mena: you probably have to go to configuration to change using charset of subs
[12:17] <Mena> i did
[12:17] <deviance> It doesnt go into detauls about Avi files
[12:17] <deviance> Is there a specific plug in because Mplayer, kaffine and the rest dont work
[12:17] <_4strO> deviance: avi is just a box
[12:18] <deviance> Vlc doesnt either so it must be a plugin prob
[12:18] <deviance> A box?
[12:18] <Mena> _4strO, Thanks any way :)
[12:19] <Mena> Bye
[12:19] <_4strO> deviance: w32codecs and xinelibxine1-ffmpeg that's all you need ;)
[12:19] <_4strO> Mena: see ya
[12:19] <_4strO> deviance: avi is a container
[12:19] <_4strO> not a video format
[12:19] <deviance> Oh
[12:20] <deviance> Well its still not working
[12:20] <deviance> Ill check thoes plogins
[12:20] <deviance> plugins*
[12:20] <deviance> What video format are avi's then?
[12:21] <_4strO> mpeg4 for exemple
[12:21] <deviance> xinelibxine1 doesnt retun anything
[12:22] <_4strO> deviance: where ?
[12:22] <_4strO> in adept ?
[12:22] <deviance> Yeah
[12:22] <_4strO> and w32codecs ?
[12:23] <deviance> 1sec
[12:23] <deviance> Thats installed
[12:23] <Eruantalon> Why does many library packages have an appended zero?
[12:23] <deviance> So its just xinelibxine1
[12:24] <_4strO> libxine1-ffmpeg
[12:24] <deviance> Theres libxine1c2 but not -ffmpeg
[12:25] <deviance> adn a couple of libxine packages but none have -ffmpeg
[12:25] <_4strO> deviance: have you active the universe package ?
[12:26] <_4strO> deviance: have you active the universe repositorie  ?
[12:26] <_4strO> sorry
[12:26] <deviance> What repo is it in
[12:26] <deviance> yeah I havfe
[12:26] <deviance> Im on 6.06 lts if that helps at all
[12:26] <_4strO> haaa !
[12:26] <_4strO> lol
[12:27] <deviance> lol
[12:27] <_4strO> apt-cache madison libxine1-ffmpeg
[12:27] <_4strO> libxine1-ffmpeg | 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 | http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
[12:27] <deviance> In terminal?
[12:28] <deviance> And does it have to be fr? or can I use GB instead.
[12:28] <_4strO> deviance: no, were just for show
[12:28] <jussi01> !info libxine1-ffmpeg dapper
[12:28] <deviance> Oh, so what do I do then?
[12:28] <ubotu> Package libxine1-ffmpeg does not exist in dapper
[12:28] <_4strO> jussi01: :)
[12:28] <deviance> Is there a replacement package arround?
[12:29] <deviance> I have got mpg videos and video streams to work before, I guess using win32codecs
[12:29] <_4strO> deviance: try to search ffmpeg
[12:30] <deviance> Okay
[12:31] <deviance> !info ffmpeg dapper
[12:31] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 3835 kB, installed size 9816 kB
[12:31] <deviance> Thats installed by the way
[12:36] <deviance> Okay, What codec is xvid in?
[12:37] <_4strO> not sure ...
[12:37] <deviance> Thats the file type
[12:37] <Maruko> hi everybody
[12:38] <deviance> !xvid
[12:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <Maruko> I need a suggestion
[12:38] <deviance> Hi
[12:38] <Maruko> is there any progam like iWeb or Macromedia Dreamweaver for Kubuntu?
[12:38] <Maruko> or anything that can help me create a nice-looking website
[12:38] <oem_> please can you say me the german kubuntu irc
[12:38] <Maruko> (I just know a little HTML...)
[12:38] <USMarine> !de
[12:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:39] <Black_Cat> Maruko, Quanta Plus should do.
[12:39] <Maruko> Quanta Plus?=
[12:39] <USMarine> Maruko eclipse ftw
[12:39] <Maruko> is it in the repositories?
[12:39] <Black_Cat> it certainly is
[12:39] <_4strO> deviance: have this package libxine-extracodecs ?
[12:40] <_4strO> have you ?
[12:40] <deviance> installed
[12:40] <Maruko> it say Eclipse is not made for creating websites...
[12:40] <USMarine> it's good for php
[12:40] <USMarine> and php is used in sites
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> ...
[12:41] <deviance> Yeah I use Quanta for my php work, therse a nice js one, try Aptana
[12:41] <USMarine> aptana is good also yeah
[12:41] <Maruko> ok
[12:41] <Maruko> I just found Quanta-Data in my repositories
[12:41] <Maruko> is it normal?
[12:42] <USMarine> i prefer eclipse because it's more powerful
[12:42] <Black_Cat> Maruko, hold on, i'll check it
[12:42] <Maxdamantus> Lol. PHP scripting help ftl.
[12:42] <Maruko> ok thanks
[12:42] <Eruantalon> Why does many library packages have an appended zero?
[12:42] <guhhh> _4strO: how do i remove kded and reinstall?
[12:43] <_4strO> guhhh: try 'xhost +' in a console
[12:43] <deviance> I'm gopnna go mplayer a go, thats supposed to suport xvid
[12:43] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: google for sonames, if you're interested
[12:43] <Black_Cat> Maruko, use search pattern "quanta", it's in main repo, so there must be no problem.
[12:43] <deviance> !mplayer
[12:43] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[12:44] <guhhh> _4strO: what now?
[12:44] <_4strO> try to open konversation
[12:44] <Maxdamantus> guhhh, don't do xhost + unless you trust him.
[12:44] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: ?.??
[12:45] <Maxdamantus> It allows him to access your GUI programs from wherever.
[12:45] <Maruko> ok
[12:45] <Maruko> and what about Aptana?
[12:45] <Maruko> I cannot find it
[12:45] <Black_Cat> never heard about it, can't provide any related help, sorry.
[12:46] <guhhh> _4strO: no way
[12:46] <_4strO> :/
[12:46] <guhhh> _4strO: is there anyway to remove kded?
[12:46] <Maruko> another thing
[12:47] <Maruko> I am thinking of installing Xfce
[12:47] <Maruko> and have Xfce together with KDe
[12:47] <_4strO> guhhh: i dont know
[12:47] <Maruko> how can I do?
[12:47] <Maruko> and then, will my KDE applications work under XFCE?
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> Maruku, just try "apt-get install xfce"
[12:47] <_4strO> Maruko: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-destop
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> Worked for me with gnome.
[12:47] <_4strO> Maruko: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> Then had to apt-get kde again to make it compiled for KDE by default.
[12:48] <Black_Cat> btw, i've installed ICEWM and i want my KDE apps work under it. is there a way?
[12:48] <deviance> I would trust _4strO
[12:48] <_4strO> :p
[12:49] <_4strO> deviance: $USER output is ok ?
[12:49] <Maruko> @_4str0== will my KDE applications work under XFCE?
[12:49] <_4strO> Maruko: yes
[12:49] <Maruko> wow
[12:49] <Maruko> I try now
[12:49] <mula> hello
[12:49] <mula> how can i install the nvidia and nforce drivers?
[12:49] <deviance> Im not sure what you mean by $user
[12:49] <_4strO> !nvisia
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvisia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <_4strO> !nvidia
[12:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:49] <mula> ty :)
[12:50] <mula> !nforce
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nforce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <guhhh> _4strO: i will try something stupid, /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg -i *
[12:50] <guhhh> lol
[12:50] <_4strO> lol
[12:51] <deviance> Whats the program for finding and adding programs to the kmenu
[12:51] <_4strO> deviance: kmenuedit
[12:51] <Maruko> @_4str0 : then can I remove all the XFCE applications from my pc? I mean, Thunderbird and so on...since I don't use them is useless for me to have them installed, right?
[12:52] <deviance> Isnt there one that does it automaticly, I have it on my pc but i cant rember the terminakl rpmpt
[12:52] <_4strO> Maruko: right
[12:52] <Maruko> ok
[12:53] <Maruko> then how can I know which packages I should NOT uninstall?
[12:53] <_4strO> Maruko: dont really know
[12:54] <Maruko> I cannot really understand how to use Quanta...
[12:54] <Maruko> I don't know a lot of HTML code
[12:54] <Maruko> so I am a little in trouble
[12:55] <jujimufu> Maruko: the best thing to do is read some tutorials on HTML and learn at least the basics.
[12:55] <Black_Cat> Maruko, when you remove some vital library which is required for some application, this application will be removed too! So you just check "Preview Changes" in Adept and... well, i think you got the idea :)
[12:56] <Maruko> ok
[12:58] <Maruko> ok last thing
[12:58] <Maruko> how can I enter the Italian Kubuntu Channel?
[12:58] <nerfbat> I got a small question I cannot seem to find the answer to, is there any way to remove the god awfull bouncing icon when you start a program
[12:59] <Black_Cat> neoj_, look for "Launch Feedback" in "appearance" or some place else, i don't remember exactly. and turn it off :)
[01:00] <nerfbat> Ah, I ran into that word trying google, but I cannot seem to find it in apperance under setup or in knoq. Will look again, it gotta be there
[01:01] <Black_Cat> nerfbat, the last position in "Panel" part of "System settings"
[01:02] <Black_Cat> and, you can switch it on/off for every single app, there's a checkbox in K Menu Editor for this purpose.
[01:02] <nerfbat> Ah, I will try and locate that now
[01:04] <_4strO> nerfbat: ALT - F2 and then kcontrol
[01:04] <nerfbat> Yeah, that brought up an app I have not seen in my list
[01:05] <_4strO> nerfbat: look and feel
[01:05] <_4strO> the las t part in ti
[01:05] <_4strO> it*
[01:06] <nerfbat> Found the Lauch Feedback and disabled it
[01:06] <_4strO> ;)
[01:06] <nerfbat> much better now, thanks
[01:08] <deviance> !kmplayer
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <kraut> moin
[01:08] <mads-> Can I reset my xorg.conf in any way?
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> What do you mean by reset it?
[01:09] <_4strO> mads-: did you look at the /etc/X11 directory to find a backup version
[01:10] <mads-> Yeah... the latest backup I made was alreay altered by myself :S
[01:10] <Black_Cat> mads-, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:10] <Black_Cat> i guess that might help
[01:10] <_4strO> it might to create a new one ;)
[01:10] <mads-> Black_Cat: Can I run that over ssh?
[01:10] <mads-> I'd like to create a new one :)
[01:11] <Maxdamantus> You can run anything over ssh if you're allowed.
[01:11] <_4strO> mads-: ssh -X ;)
[01:12] <mads-> Maxdamantus: I can't run X applications, can I ? :)
[01:12] <Black_Cat> hmm... i'm not sure, try it ;)
[01:12] <mads-> thanks guys.. I'll try...
[01:12] <_4strO> mads-: you can with the -X option
[01:12] <Maxdamantus> Yea. As long as the server has it enabled.
[01:13] <mads-> Don't think it has though...
[01:13] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: dont think so
[01:14] <Maxdamantus> _4strO, don't think so what?
[01:14] <_4strO> dont think you have something to activate to run x app aver ssh -X
[01:15] <_4strO> you have something to activate if you want startx an Xsession under network
[01:19] <underdog5004> you know, I started playing with gentoo just for something new...I didn't realize that compiling from source took so long. My lappy's been compiling kde and deps since last night
[01:19] <voltagex_> anyone using kaffeine for DVB TV?
[01:19] <underdog5004> about 27 hours, and counting
[01:19] <mads-> Hmm.. Dunno why, but the nvidia driver just don't want to work.. So I just sat my driver to be "nv" and now it is working..
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> Lol.. What speed CPU?
[01:20] <mads-> Don't think it is using the real nvidia driver, but who cares - it works and no games will be played on it :)
[01:20] <mads-> But thanks for your quick replies...
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> Longest my 2.4ghz P4 took was about 2 hours for KDE, and 45 mins for Firefox.
[01:20] <underdog5004> Maxdamantus, 933Mhz PIII
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> :S
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> I liked Gentoo, seemed powerful, but couldn't get the sound working.
[01:21] <underdog5004> yeah, but I'm not cool enough to compile on a seperate machine and then copy the bins over...
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> So decided to use kubuntu because it's said to be easy to set up.
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> I know that portage > apt-get :d
[01:23] <underdog5004> Maxdamantus, I chose gentoo because it'll be more of a challenge...I've gotten to a point with kubuntu where I'm not learning new stuff anymore...gotta keep myself sharp....
[01:23] <Maxdamantus> Yea, Gentoo was my first distrib, and I think I learnt quite a bit from the time I used it.
[01:24] <underdog5004> I don't know if the whole compile for your machine for speed is a bunch of hype or for real...I think apt-get > portage atm, but I've only been at gentoo for a few days...installing was a bi...female dog
[01:24] <Maxdamantus> I'll fix Gentoo up again so I can use it dual booting.
[01:24] <underdog5004> I started with Damn Small Linux
[01:24] <underdog5004> that was fun, I learned a lot
[01:24] <Simeon_H> I started with MEPIS
[01:24] <Maxdamantus> portage is much more straightforward.
[01:24] <Simeon_H> KDE was love
[01:25] <underdog5004> lol @ Simeon_H
[01:25] <underdog5004> Maxdamantus, why?
[01:25] <underdog5004> apt-get install program...hard to get easier than that
[01:25] <_4strO> i started with mandrake !
[01:25] <Maxdamantus> Portage uses ebuilds, so you can set custom flags before compiling.
[01:25] <Maxdamantus> /etc/make.conf
[01:25] <_4strO> underdog5004: you can, aptitude :p
[01:25] <underdog5004> oh, right
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> And alot of other reasons why.
[01:26] <underdog5004> _4strO, not in mho
[01:26] <underdog5004> apt-get is easier for me
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> Colour coding makes it quicker to read, rather than reading everything, just look for black, which is the size of downloads.
[01:26] <underdog5004> apt-cache search for packages I don't know the exact name of, etc...
[01:26] <_4strO> fot me to but it has a historical reason
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> Tells you exactly what you're installing, and what category it is.
[01:27] <Maxdamantus> Also tells you the flags you're using before, so you can edit them and run again if you don't like them.
[01:27] <underdog5004> I didn't notice any color-coding! I want my money back!
[01:27] <Maxdamantus> And, can run more than one at a time.
[01:27] <Maxdamantus> Lol. When you "emerge -av something"
[01:27] <underdog5004> Maxdamantus, oh, very cool, I wasn't sure that I could emerge more than one at a time
[01:28] <Maxdamantus> Not really very efficient emerging more than one at a time.
[01:28] <underdog5004> lol
[01:28] <Maxdamantus> Would just half the speed on both of them. :d
[01:28] <underdog5004> cause it's compiling 2/more, right?
[01:29] <Maxdamantus> Yea.
[01:29] <Maxdamantus> Lol. I might install xpde for the hell of it.
[01:30] <underdog5004> xpde...xp desktop environment?
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Yea.
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Meant for people who are used to the Windows interface.
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> http://www.xpde.com/
[01:30] <Black_Cat> is kde interface really that different? i don't think so :)
[01:31] <Maxdamantus> Look at xpde, then decide.
[01:31] <_4strO> Black_Cat: your right
[01:31] <_4strO> you're righht
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> It is fairly different.
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> Unless you tell it to be similar.
[01:32] <_4strO> linux dont have to mimic windows, the user have to be emancipate :p
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> And I think kubuntu is trying to edit KDE to be a mix of Mac and Windows.
[01:33] <underdog5004> lol, I like twoplustwo.com
[01:33] <underdog5004> might be 2plus2.com
[01:33] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: the better mix i ever seen
[01:33] <Black_Cat> Maxdamantus, absolutely agreed. the "System Settings" look'n'feel almost stolen from MacOS X :)))
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> Yea.
[01:33] <underdog5004> gotta remember that linux isn't windows...if anything, it's unix
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> I don't like it.. I liked KDE when I was using Gentoo better.
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> underdog5004, it's not unix.
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> It's a clone of unix.
[01:34] <underdog5004> anyway, good talking w/ you Maxdamantus, I gotta go cuddle w/ my gf
[01:34] <mlv> hola
[01:34] <underdog5004> it's 5 in the morning
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> Ok.
[01:34] <mlv> irc spanish??
[01:34] <Black_Cat> underdog5004, LINUX = Linux Is Not UniX :)
[01:34] <mlv> irc.ubuntu-es??no conect
[01:34] <underdog5004> LINUX = Linus' unix
[01:34] <Black_Cat> !kubuntu es
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <underdog5004> was originally called freax
[01:34] <underdog5004> adios
[01:35] <mlv> !kubuntu es
[01:35] <Black_Cat> !kubuntu-es
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <mlv> !kubuntu-es
[01:35] <_4strO> !es
[01:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:35] <mlv> !es
[01:35] <_4strO> :p
[01:35] <pa> hello
[01:35] <_4strO> yo
[01:35] <mlv> ok
[01:35] <Black_Cat> ah
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> maxdamantus@maxdamantus:/$ php -r 'if("linux" != "unix"){echo "true\n";}'
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> true
[01:35] <pa> i just upgraded from edgy to feisty. but on kde->logout options for shutdown/restart disappeared... i have only "log out"
[01:35] <pa> why?
[01:36] <_4strO> pa: you're using XGL ?
[01:36] <pa> uh? no
[01:36] <pa> i dont think so
[01:36] <pa> what is it?
[01:36] <pa> :)
[01:36] <Maxdamantus> What does "Suspend" do?
[01:37] <_4strO> pa: try to 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[01:37] <voltagex_> what format does kaffiene broadcast in?
[01:37] <pa> i'll try thanks :)
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> Btw, how do I use beryl? I can't figure it out.
[01:39] <mlv> no conect irc spanish
[01:39] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: what's the problem ?
[01:39] <blekos> how can i change the wait time in GRUB?
[01:39] <Black_Cat> mlv, /join #kubuntu-es
[01:40] <simoux> hallo
[01:40] <llutz> hi
[01:40] <mlv> gracias
[01:40] <Maxdamantus> Not sure, but for example, for General > Shortcuts > Desktop Cube > Bindings > Unfold Cube, I have it set to <Shift><Control><Alt>Return, but it does nothing.
[01:40] <_4strO> blekos: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:40] <Maxdamantus> I can't see any difference. :S
[01:41] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: exept this, is beryl works fine ?
[01:42] <Maxdamantus> No, I can't see any difference after installing it.
[01:42] <Maxdamantus> Never used it before though, so probably just me.
[01:42] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: beryl-manager in a console ?
[01:42] <Maxdamantus> settings you mean.
[01:42] <simoux> i have my tv carte working unter ubuntu witjout sound
[01:43] <simoux> tvtime
[01:43] <_4strO> nop Maxdamantus : beryl-manager (close the rubis icon in the systray before)
[01:43] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: just to see if there is an error
[01:44] <Maxdamantus> Oh. I needed to run "beryl"
[01:44] <Maxdamantus> O_o Fancy
[01:44] <_4strO> lol
[01:44] <simoux> can i get hepl
[01:44] <_4strO> !ask | simoux
[01:45] <ubotu> simoux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:45] <Maxdamantus> Am I not able to use normal KDE Windows decorations while using it?
[01:45] <simoux> i hav my tv carte working   in ubuntu but no sound
[01:45] <simoux> tvtime
[01:45] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: exept if you install aquamarin engine i think
[01:46] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: you have two choice for win decoration, aquamarine or emerald
[01:47] <_4strO> simoux: you have sound elsewhere ?
[01:47] <simoux> yes
[01:47] <simoux> it work fine
[01:48] <_4strO> simoux: fr ?
[01:48] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. And how does one shut down beryl correctly?
[01:48] <simoux> marocain a frankfurt
[01:48] <simoux> je parle francais
[01:48] <_4strO> Maxdamantus:  ??? dont understand
[01:49] <Maxdamantus> I tried ending it's task, and I couldn't switch windows or use the keyboard. :d
[01:49] <Maxdamantus> Can't access my top kicker either.
[01:49] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: dont really sure i understand but try ESC
[01:50] <_4strO> simoux: sorry i never install a tv card so ...
[01:50] <simoux> ok
[01:51] <_4strO> simoux: try open some TV in vlc
[01:51] <simoux> i tray im google
[01:51] <simoux> i cant , but  it doentwork xine
[01:52] <blekos> sometimes its really frustrating, u install a program and it doesnt appear in the menu... any ideas how i can do that?
[01:52] <Maxdamantus> blekos, you can add it easily.
[01:52] <_4strO> blekos: wath do you want ?
[01:53] <Maxdamantus> Right click the menu icon, and then "Edit menu"
[01:53] <Maxdamantus> No, "Menu editor"
[01:54] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. This is a bit too heavy for my integrated video card actually.
[01:54] <blekos> i want to add program (basicaly the command for running it) in the kmenu in the utiliets section
[01:55] <Maxdamantus> Then go into the Menu editor, Utilities, and clck "New"
[01:55] <blekos> ok, and smg else i've installed a prog (katalog) but i dont know how to run it, i tried Katalog & katalog in the command line, any ideas how i can find it?
[01:55] <bert__> is this a known bug.. if not, where and how do i submit it..
[01:55] <bert__> http://www.bpeers.com/stuff/kubuntu-lock-dos.avi
[01:56] <_4strO> blekos: you install katalog is that right ?
[01:56] <blekos> yes?
[01:56] <blekos> yes
[01:56] <Maxdamantus> No AGP ftl
[01:57] <_4strO> blekos: try to kata + TAB
[01:57] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: wich card ?
[01:57] <Maxdamantus> It's integrated.
[01:58] <Maxdamantus> Intel i810 something.
[01:58] <Maxdamantus> It uses about 24mb of my RAM. :d
[01:59] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: ok lol type 'glxinfo | grep render'
[01:59] <Maxdamantus> _4strO, if you're trying to help me with my video card, nty.
[01:59] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: just have a look if you can use beryl :p
[01:59] <Maxdamantus> It can only be fixed by getting a better one, and non-agp are hard to find.
[01:59] <Maxdamantus> I can use beryl, I'm using it atm.
[02:00] <Maxdamantus> Just really laggy when it uses any of it's affects.
[02:00] <_4strO> ha !
[02:00] <Maxdamantus> Took like 5 secs to minimize a Window with the squiggly effect.
[02:01] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: :/
[02:02] <Maxdamantus> Idc, I've been using low standard graphics on here for 5 or 6 years.
[02:02] <Maxdamantus> Used to it now.
[02:03] <atidem> ciao
[02:03] <bluebird22> any one used g4L ?
[02:03] <_4strO> bluebird22: dont know what it is :p
[02:04] <Maxdamantus> But how does one shut down beryl?
[02:04] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: what ?
[02:04] <Maxdamantus> How do I close beryl?
[02:04] <Maxdamantus> If I kill it, it doesn't close properly, and the keyboard doesn't work.
[02:04] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: just right on the rubis in the systray
[02:05] <Maxdamantus> Then I have to paste "beryl" into the terminal to get it again.
[02:05] <Maxdamantus> I don't see any rupis in the system tray.
[02:05] <_4strO> [14:03]  <_4strO> bluebird22: dont know what it is :p
[02:06] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: type 'beryl-manager'
[02:06] <_4strO> you will have one
[02:06] <Maxdamantus> It tells me to apt-get it.
[02:07] <pa> _4strO: i installed kubuntu-desktop, but i still dont have choiches to reboot when i click kde->logout
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> It did nothing when I did that.
[02:07] <bluebird22> _4strO backup app
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> maxdamantus@maxdamantus:~/42804-domino-0.4/domino-0.4$ sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> Password:
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> maxdamantus@maxdamantus:~/42804-domino-0.4/domino-0.4$ beryl-manager
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> The program 'beryl-manager' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> Sorry for spam. :S
[02:08] <_4strO> pa: restart X
[02:08] <Maxdamantus> Ah, working now for some reason.
[02:08] <pa> _4strO: did
[02:09] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Wtf.
[02:09] <Maxdamantus> It added invisible Window decorations.
[02:09] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: emerald --replace
[02:10] <Maxdamantus> Now has broken images. :D
[02:11] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: come back into kwin
[02:11] <pa> in "session manager" i have checked "offer shutdown opts"
[02:11] <jussi01> !beryl
[02:11] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:11] <snap> beryl is a waste
[02:12] <Maxdamantus> Agreed.
[02:12] <snap> its fun for like 5 minutes
[02:12] <_4strO> pa: mmm you're under gnome ?
[02:12] <_4strO> lol
[02:12] <lt_> ug i just swapped windows managers from gnome to kde, and when I VnC into the kde session I get these errors.  "kompmgr cannot find the Xrender extension", now I can only get a few apps to actually open ><
[02:12] <pa> lol :)
[02:12] <snap> but then you want your memory back LOL
[02:13] <pa> and by the way it is a very ugly splash with the only "logout" opt
[02:14] <_4strO> pa: i cant help you on gnome options sorry
[02:14] <Maxdamantus> #ubuntu is gnome.
[02:15] <pa> lol
[02:15] <pa> it's not gnome
[02:15] <pa> it's kde
[02:15] <snap> for me gnome takes forever to open windows.....KDE much snappy-er........but i still like Xforc desktop it  is fast
[02:16] <Maxdamantus> How do you restart X?
[02:16] <Maxdamantus> I forgot. :S
[02:16] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:16] <lt_> k well let me ask this then, since i got crickets on my last question,  how can i remove kde and gnome completely and then just install kde?
[02:17] <_4strO> lt_: reinstall all ;o
[02:17] <snap> lt_ download kbunto iso and make live cd?
[02:17] <bert__> how do you turn off the auto mouse-button-press on laptop touchpads ?
[02:18] <bert__> i keep clicking stuff i shouldn't :|
[02:18] <_4strO> lt_: you can 'sudo apt-get remoce kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop && install kubuntu-desktop, but it will not remove all things
[02:18] <lt_> i dont want to wipe everything out, there are things that I have setup that I dont want to lose
[02:18] <blekos>
[02:18] <snap> addremove the gnome desktop in synaptic
[02:19] <blekos> in KDE menu appear the GNOME menu items as well, what will happen if I make a subcategory and move them there?
[02:19] <lt_> i just get the feeling that my kubuntu-desktop install was flakey cause of the vnc issues
[02:19] <_4strO> lt_: and you should not  probably do this in kde
[02:19] <_4strO> blekos: nothing other that you ask to him
[02:19] <_4strO> ^^
[02:20] <_4strO> blekos: nothing other that you ask him to do
[02:20] <_4strO> better ?
[02:20] <blekos> so, when I log in to GNOME everything will appear as usual?
[02:20] <Maxdamantus> Btw, what happened to SSL on this server?
[02:21] <Maxdamantus> 66697 isn't even open. :S
[02:21] <_4strO> blekos: probably :p
[02:21] <Maxdamantus> 6697*
[02:22] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: kdesu kate /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[02:22] <Maxdamantus> _4strO, nothing to do with my computer.
[02:23] <Maxdamantus> Was wondering why Freenode doesn't offer SSL connections to IRC anymore.
[02:23] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: haaaaa :p
[02:24] <Aattila> can anybody help with amarok? it updates database when i try to run it, but then happens nothing and amarok isn't loaded
[02:26] <Maxdamantus> Rofl. xpde is < 5mb
[02:27] <pandaconstantin> salut tout le monde
[02:27] <Maxdamantus> Je parlez vous englai?
[02:27] <emonkey> !fr
[02:27] <Maxdamantus> Havn't done french for so long. :S
[02:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:27] <Maxdamantus> Wonder if that meant what I thought it meant.
[02:28] <xcatxxl> hallo an euch alle
[02:28] <rfoss> Hi, is there anyone that could provide some helpful hints for troubleshooting my KDE login?  When I use kdm and log in to kde, I keep getting thrown back to the login window.  However when I use gdm and log in to kde, I successfully log in and KDE seems to work fine.
[02:30] <gugliolo> hi to all!!!
[02:30] <rfoss> oh, and kdm_greet seems to produce the following error: Internal error: memory corruption detected.
[02:30] <xcatxxl> can i make a update for kubunto
[02:30] <gugliolo> hem
[02:31] <gugliolo> can someone help me with some beryl problems?
[02:31] <JohnB>  8-)
[02:31] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[02:32] <fildo> !nvidia
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <coolzgeek> Im using Feisty and i installed iceweasel using a .deb package and now when i access Firefox, iceweasel pops up! I want both browswers
[02:33] <xcatxxl><PHONE_NUMBER>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[02:33] <xcatxxl> jemand aus deutschland da?
[02:33] <coolzgeek> KDE 4 is comming out i think
[02:34] <xcatxxl> i need a updatee of kubunto
[02:34] <USMarine> kubuntu*
[02:35] <xcatxxl> ok
[02:35] <xcatxxl> some bady now how i can make a update?
[02:35] <xcatxxl> body
[02:36] <coolzgeek> Im using Feisty and i installed iceweasel using a .deb package and now when i access Firefox, iceweasel pops up! I want both browsers
[02:36] <Jucato> !de | xcatxxl
[02:36] <ubotu> xcatxxl: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:36] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, use a link to Firefox?
[02:36] <xcatxxl> danke jucato
[02:37] <icecruncher> how do you apply a patch to kopete?
[02:37] <xcatxxl> www.kubuntu.de
[02:37] <xcatxxl> sorry
[02:37] <coolzgeek> Yes
[02:37] <Maxdamantus> How are you trying to run it?
[02:37] <coolzgeek> Using a link on the toolbar
[02:37] <yaccin> xcatxxl: *meld*
[02:37] <coolzgeek> the link
[02:37] <coolzgeek> i unistalled iceweasel
[02:37] <coolzgeek> tool
[02:37] <yaccin> hmm i have a USB-Hard drive
[02:37] <yaccin> and it doesnt work
[02:37] <Maxdamantus> Right click it, "Configure firefox.."
[02:37] <yaccin> when i plug it in, the little window comes up
[02:37] <Maxdamantus> Then Application tab
[02:38] <yaccin> so i select "open in new window"
[02:38] <yaccin> and nothing happens :(
[02:38] <Maxdamantus> See what it says in the "Command" text box.
[02:38] <baudthief> Is there an app similar to DVDshrink for linux? I'd rather not go the 'wine' route - just need to backup a couple of DVDs
[02:38] <baudthief> (and reburn)
[02:38] <llutz> baudthief: k9copy dvd95
[02:38] <yaccin> baudthief: k9copy
[02:38] <yaccin> or dvdrip
[02:39] <baudthief> thanks!
[02:39] <coolzgeek> right click what?
[02:39] <Maxdamantus> The Firefox icon.
[02:39] <montoya> Hi, I have a problem with kdevelop
[02:39] <coolzgeek> There isn't a configure firefox
[02:39] <coolzgeek> Its on a panel
[02:40] <Maxdamantus> ...
[02:40] <montoya> Kdevelop start witouth translation
[02:40] <yaccin> montoya: ...
[02:40] <yaccin> hm
[02:40] <chijin> does k9copy 'shrink' dvd9s to dvd5?
[02:40] <montoya> It's a problem with kubuntu
[02:40] <yaccin> chijin: yes
[02:40] <yaccin> or to 1 or more avi files
[02:40] <yaccin> if you want to
[02:40] <yaccin> or mpegs
[02:40] <yaccin> or DVD images of every size you want to
[02:40] <chijin> i still use dvdsrink with wine :P
[02:41] <Maxdamantus> montoya, I mean the option staring with "Configure firefox"
[02:41] <DarkED> hi, i want to mount my root partition on my real hdd in write mode on the liveCD, how would i do that?
[02:41] <Maxdamantus> Couldn't be bothered typing "Configure firefox web browser button"
[02:41] <coolzgeek> montoya?
[02:41] <montoya> firefox??
[02:42] <Maxdamantus> Oh, nvm.
[02:42] <Maxdamantus> Wrong person.
[02:42] <montoya> ;)
[02:42] <yaccin> i want to mount the USB-HDD :(
[02:42] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, if it's on a panel, you should be able to do that.
[02:42] <coolzgeek> Nop
[02:42] <coolzgeek> Configure Firefox?
[02:43] <coolzgeek> oh you mean on Iceweasel?
[02:43] <Maxdamantus> You say when you try opening Firefox it opens Iceweasel.
[02:43] <coolzgeek> Yes
[02:43] <Maxdamantus> It's not configuring the program, configuring the shortcut.
[02:43] <coolzgeek> Yeah then what do i do?
[02:43] <Maxdamantus> Right click the shortcut, and select the option starting with "Configure Firefox"
[02:44] <coolzgeek> There is only properties
[02:44] <coolzgeek> Launcher properties
[02:44] <boyee> which package include the aclocal
[02:44] <boyee> ?
[02:44] <Maxdamantus> Are you using GNOME?
[02:44] <coolzgeek> If you want me to use KDE i can
[02:44] <Maxdamantus> Click Properties
[02:44] <coolzgeek> THen?
[02:45] <Maxdamantus> Then, see what it says in the "Command" box.
[02:45] <blckcts> coolzgeek:  command: "firefox %u"
[02:45] <boyee>  which package contains the aclocal??
[02:45] <coolzgeek> yes
[02:45] <coolzgeek> firefox %u
[02:45] <coolzgeek> thats what it said
[02:45] <boyee> help me!!!!
[02:45] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[02:45] <Maxdamantus> Try in a terminal: firefox
[02:45] <coolzgeek> Tried it
[02:46] <coolzgeek> doesnt work
[02:46] <Maxdamantus> It opens Iceweasel?
[02:46] <coolzgeek> Yes
[02:46] <boyee> Hi all, please tell me which package contains the aclocal??
[02:47] <blekos> how can i set my IP
[02:47] <HymnToLife> which IP ?
[02:47] <yaccin> anyone can help with my usb-hdd? :(
[02:47] <coolzgeek> Funnily, when i su, it can work
[02:47] <Maxdamantus> The firefox symlink probably leads to iceweasel then.
[02:47] <blekos> in windows is smg like configure tcp/ip
[02:47] <enry> hi
[02:47] <blekos> well,
[02:47] <icecruncher> anybody know how to add custom emoticons to kopete?
[02:47] <HymnToLife> your LAN IP, then ?
[02:47] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, try "cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox"
[02:47] <HymnToLife> doesn't Ubuntu have a GUI-thingie for it ?
[02:47] <blekos> i am having wan in my house , and want to give my laptop a standard internal IP
[02:47] <blekos> no,
[02:47] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[02:47] <blekos> just for my laptop so I can set up a vnc l8r
[02:48] <coolzgeek> ok
[02:48] <coolzgeek> then?
[02:48] <Maxdamantus> Now, "./firefox-bin"
[02:48] <Maxdamantus> (No quotes)
[02:49] <coolzgeek> no such file
[02:49] <coolzgeek> i lsed
[02:49] <coolzgeek> and theres such file though
[02:50] <Maxdamantus> Did you mistype?
[02:50] <coolzgeek> nop
[02:50] <coolzgeek> lemme try using nautilus
[02:51] <czer323> Is there an easy way to get picture files on the desktop to show as thumbnails for KDE?
[02:51] <blekos> so any ideas?
[02:52] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[02:52] <coolzgeek> seems like the file is corrupted
[02:52] <coolzgeek> i can't run it
[02:52] <coolzgeek> i tried reinstalling though
[02:53] <Maxdamantus> Try "./firefox" in that directory.
[02:53] <coolzgeek> didn't wokr either
[02:55] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, "apt-get remove iceweasel"
[02:55] <Maxdamantus> Didn't realise that iceweasel is pretty much Firefox.
[02:55] <coolzgeek> i removed already
[02:56] <Maxdamantus> "apt-get remove firefox"
[02:56] <Maxdamantus> Then "apt-get install firefox"
[02:56] <shawn34> how do i check to see if the kernal can see my multi-card reader?
[02:56] <ForgeAus> !dist upgrade
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <coolzgeek> Hey but ubuntu-desktop will be removed
[02:56] <shawn34> so
[02:56] <ForgeAus> !upgrade
[02:56] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:56] <coolzgeek> wait lemme go to kde first
[02:56] <shawn34> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[02:56] <coolzgeek> oh
[02:56] <coolzgeek> okay then
[02:57] <shawn34> its ok to remove it
[02:57] <xXLOOSERXx> warum is der 3d desktop bei kubuntu nich dabei?
[02:57] <coolzgeek> do i have to sudo?
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> Yes
[02:57] <jjj> hey I was surprised by the iceweasel term I have read here...
[02:57] <ForgeAus> yes generally
[02:57] <ForgeAus> unless its a gui app
[02:57] <ForgeAus> then its kdesu
[02:58] <Maxdamantus> It's not a gui app.
[02:58] <jjj> I didnt realize that firefox has some legal issues with debian...
[02:58] <coolzgeek> dint work
[02:58] <xXLOOSERXx> firefox shits
[02:58] <coolzgeek> there was a bug
[02:58] <ForgeAus> jjj really? what sort?
[02:58] <ForgeAus> somethign related to foss?
[02:58] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, in what?
[02:58] <coolzgeek> on https://launchpad.net/bugs/30791
[02:58] <coolzgeek> read there
[02:58] <shawn34> how do i check to see if the kernal can see my multi-card reader?
[02:59] <jjj> will firefox and iceweasel work the same? theoretically it should ryt?
[02:59] <coolzgeek> nop
[02:59] <coolzgeek> iceweasel's tabbing sucks
[03:00] <coolzgeek> you can't see the original tab
[03:00] <coolzgeek> thats why i wanted to unistall it
[03:00] <coolzgeek> and somehow, iceweasel associated itself with firefox
[03:00] <coolzgeek> when i installed some extension, they said that it was only compatible with iceweasel 2.0 even though there isn't such thing
[03:01] <jjj> ok ok, so why not the Gnuzilla team just remove the branding and exchange it with free images so tthat the functionality will be the same?
[03:01] <jjj> i mean the firefox..
[03:01] <czer323> coolzgeek: There's an extension called mrtech local that can sometimes force an extension to install.
[03:01] <coolzgeek> really?
[03:01] <coolzgeek> where
[03:02] <jjj> http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/
[03:02] <czer323> http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/  I've never tried it with iceweasle before though.
[03:02] <coolzgeek> Do you all have ubuntuforums acc?
[03:02] <Maxdamantus> Nope.
[03:02] <coolzgeek> oh
[03:02] <coolzgeek> w8
[03:03] <coolzgeek> i need to switch to KDE
[03:03] <jjj> will kubuntu still include firefox in its packages even if iceweasel will succeed in its visions?
[03:03] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[03:03] <jjj> I think that can be...
[03:04] <Moo-> Should this "Kubuntu distribution upgrade tool" be somewhere in KMenu?
[03:04] <jjj> because kde's konqueror is the default browser anyway...
[03:04] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, try "apt-get moo"
[03:04] <Maxdamantus> Might help.
[03:05] <czer323> Maxdamantus: lol, lies. ;)
[03:05] <sivaji> what apt-get autoremove will do
[03:06] <sivaji> !autoremove
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoremove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <coolzgeek> Hey i changed to KDE and it work
[03:06] <coolzgeek> ed
[03:06] <sivaji> jvm!
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> What was that thing on GNOME? Someone here lastnight said to do "free the fishes" or something in it.
[03:06] <coolzgeek> Do you use GNOME?
[03:06] <coolzgeek> kde is better
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> I can use GNOME.
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> I have a GNOME session on atm.
[03:06] <coolzgeek> I mean ur default session
[03:07] <Maxdamantus> Ctrl + alt + F10 = GNOME, Ctrl + alt + F7 = KDE
[03:07] <Maxdamantus> KDE is my default.
[03:07] <coolzgeek> How do i change the cursor to double click?
[03:08] <manuel__> how can i mix a list (randomly) ?
[03:08] <Jucato> coolzgeek: System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse
[03:09] <coolzgeek> on kDE
[03:09] <Maxdamantus> Haha. Awesome, if you "apt-get install kde", it uses the default KDE control centre.
[03:09] <sivaji> !ops
[03:09] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[03:09] <Hobbsee> sivaji: yes?
[03:09] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ...  I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[03:13] <manuel__> can anybody help me?
[03:14] <coolzgeek> Why when i boot ubuntu theres a kubuntu boot screen?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> coolzgeek: because you installed kubuntu?
[03:15] <BenPA> can anyone help me with LPD printing?
[03:15] <coolzgeek> i mean can u switch it back?
[03:15] <Jucato> coolzgeek: if you installed Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu, you also get the Kubuntu bootsplash.
[03:15] <Jucato> yep you can
[03:16] <Jucato> coolzgeek: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork
[03:16] <tuco> Hello all. Hi 4stro :-)
[03:17] <tuco> I have installed wine and need help to install utorrent.
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> wine utorrent
[03:18] <USMarine> azureus ftw
[03:18] <BenPA> can anyone help me with LPD printing?
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> azureus is a resource hog and way too bloated
[03:20] <tuco> excatly, utorrent is a a lot lighter
[03:21] <tuco> for that reason I need help to install it using wine
[03:22] <tuco> nobody?
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> wine utorrent
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> there's nothing to install with utorrent
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> just run the client from a command line with wine
[03:23] <jjj> will trillian be ported to kubuntu? I have read that trillian astra has linux version...i hope so...
[03:23] <Hobbsee> jjj: unlikely.  unless someone does the work - usually at the company who makes the windows version
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> jjj: why would anyone need trillian when there's kopete?
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe it's improved, but trillian always felt to me like a badly hacked together amalgamation of parts
[03:24] <jjj> i was an ubuntu user and I'm not satisfied with Gaim...I planning to shift to kubuntu when the CDs arrives...
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> now that's a good reason
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> dialup?
[03:25] <jjj> so kopete was the IM tool for kubuntu...
[03:25] <tuco> OK done anyway. I just clicked on properties and made it an executable.
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> tuco: don't like ktorrent, i take it?
[03:26] <crene> <hello from crene
[03:26] <crene> <belgium
[03:26] <tuco> I never used it. I have utorrent in windows so I stick with my old habits really.
[03:27] <tuco> it isn't a bloatware like azureus so there you go :-)
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i would try out ktorrent, personally.  why even shift to a new os if the same habits still apply
[03:27] <jjj> kopete looks like trillian as I saw it from the screenshots...now I dont care about trillian astra ported to linux...
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> jjj: hehe, yeah, kopete's really nice
[03:28] <jjj> thank God almost everything is free with linux!!!!
[03:29] <tuco> We live in a free world as far I as am concerned Ido. So when I decide to use Ktorrent I will do so, right now it is also an exercise to experiment with the various options in Linux.
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> tuco: this is true, and it is your choice, i'm just recommending one that will keep your choice open rather than dependent on a windows solution
[03:30] <cntb> an X feature in kubuntu sometimes does not work  - CTRL ALT + zooms in , Ctrl ALT - zooms out but without restarting few minutes ago it stopeed zoomin/
[03:30] <manuel__> how can i sort a list randomly?
[03:30] <cntb> ah got it !!!!!!!!!
[03:30] <cntb> must be in english
[03:30] <tuco> No worries Ido. I will certainly give it a try as long as it isn't a resource monger like azureus!
[03:30] <fagin> Where can I find info to install mp3 support into a fesity install?
[03:30] <cntb> was in Spanish and greek
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> oh definitely not
[03:30] <fagin> *feisty
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> it's pretty lightweight
[03:31] <tuco> lighter than utorrent?
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> fagin: open an mp3 in amarok
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> not quite as light as utorrent, but i don't think anything is yet
[03:31] <cntb> this doesn ot work as expected windows keyboard behaves more as expected
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> but it is a native app
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> so it has that advantage
[03:31] <tuco> like what?
[03:32] <fagin> Daisuke_Ido: OK. I can't do that just now though since I can't encode anything into mp3 :)
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> fagin: you'll need libxine-extracodecs and lame
[03:32] <icecruncher> what is the kubuntu equivilant or how do u do the same like this in ubuntu  System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs -> New:
[03:32] <don> how do you configure kopete?
[03:32] <jjj> does anyone here knows how to use winmodems in kubuntu/ubuntu other than the Linuxant drivers (which is not free)?
[03:33] <fagin> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks. I'll look fro those packets in adept
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> don: when you open it the first time, you get a "welcome to kopete" with a setup wizard
[03:33] <don> I try aand get noware
[03:34] <BenPA> can anyone help me with LPD printing?
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> and after that, go to settings > configure kopete
[03:34] <don> its all new to me but I like it
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> you obviously have to know your account details for the different protocols if you want to use them
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> username and password, stuff like that
[03:35] <don> yes but it does not work at all
[03:35] <icecruncher> or how do you add a program to strtup (firewall)
[03:35] <don> goes through motions and does nothing
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> did it set up the account?
[03:37] <icecruncher> anyone?
[03:39] <cntb> +
[03:41] <Jucato> !startup | icecruncher
[03:41] <ubotu> icecruncher: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[03:41] <Jucato> icecruncher: although I imagine the app also having it's own settings to do that
[03:41] <icecruncher> hmm
[03:42] <jjj> how about startups in kubuntu?
[03:42] <icecruncher> yeah?
[03:42] <Hobbsee> symlink into ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:42] <Hobbsee> jjj: ^
[03:42] <Jucato> oh crap
[03:42] <Jucato> sorry
[03:42] <Hobbsee> or link, or wahtever
[03:42] <Jucato> !autostart | icecruncher
[03:42] <ubotu> icecruncher: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:43] <Jucato> this is definitely not my night :/
[03:43] <abattoir> poor desk :(
[03:43] <jjj> ok thanks thanks...
[03:43] <icecruncher> lol
[03:43] <icecruncher> thanks
[03:44] <Jucato> abattoir: you have to wait for infinity :)
[03:44] <yapi> anyone have kubuntu & win x on laptop?
[03:44] <yapi> xp..
[03:44] <Jucato> :D
[03:44] <abattoir> Hobbsee: you weren't the one i irked ;)
[03:44] <abattoir> Hobbsee: hi, btw :)
[03:45] <Jucato> abattoir: are you sure? :D
[03:45] <Hobbsee> abattoir: heya!
[03:45] <abattoir> yapi: lots of people here do... what's your question/problem?
[03:45] <abattoir> Jucato: unless you two are alternate identities of the same person or something ;)
[03:45] <MementoMori__> hi all
[03:45] <MementoMori__> where can I find cowpatty package?
[03:45] <MementoMori__> !cowpatty
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cowpatty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <yapi> I'm trying to install kubuntu on logical particion but I always have the code: no main files system
[03:46] <abattoir> MementoMori__: doesn't seem to be in the feisty repos from what i can see
[03:47] <icecruncher> !info cowpatty
[03:47] <ubotu> Package cowpatty does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:47] <abattoir> yapi: where do you see this?
[03:47] <abattoir> yapi: also how many primary/logical partitions do you have?
[03:47] <yapi> when I choose mount points
[03:47] <don> can serious gaming be done with kubuntu?
[03:47] <MementoMori__> abattoir: there is a way to know if there is a repo with cowpatty avaible?
[03:48] <Jucato> yapi: make sure that you have a partition that's set aside for and mounted on /
[03:48] <Jucato> (in the partition table part of the installer)
[03:48] <yapi> I have / and swap
[03:48] <MementoMori__> abattoir: nUbuntu seems to have this packet
[03:49] <icecruncher> ok this might seem silly but does anybody know how to make the icons in the system tray a bit smaller so that they are on 2 rows intead of 1?
[03:49] <abattoir> MementoMori__: would it be possible for you to compile it?
[03:49] <yapi> what I should install First ? lkubuntu or xp ?
[03:49] <Jucato> MementoMori__: nubuntu isn't an official derivative... we don't have their repos
[03:49] <Jucato> icecruncher:  you can't make the icons smaller, but you can make the panel larger so that it will fit in 2 rows
[03:49] <abattoir> yapi: i'd recommend installing xp first, then kubuntu
[03:50] <icecruncher> Jucato: ugh, ok,
[03:50] <jjj> xp first then kubuntu/ubuntu...because ubuntu installer is smarter then xp...
[03:50] <yapi> ok I install xp as primary partition ..
[03:50] <Jucato> icecruncher: use a Custom size of 48... that's the smallest possible that will have 2 rows
[03:50] <enry> bye
[03:50] <don> I installed on clean drive
[03:50] <icecruncher> k
[03:50] <yapi> and leave 3 partitions for kubuntu ..two linux ext 3 and 1 swap ..yes?
[03:51] <Hobbsee> yapi: xp first
[03:51] <Hobbsee> and yes
[03:51] <yapi> ok ;p
[03:51] <yapi> will try
[03:51] <Jucato> well, you can have 2 partitions for kubuntu (/ and swap) but it's recommended that you have a different one for /home :)
[03:51] <jjj> or dont install xp at all...hehe...
[03:52] <icecruncher> woo
[03:52] <icecruncher> lol
[03:52] <Jucato> ideal and nice to think about... but sometimes not practical :)
[03:53] <don> can you get an emulater to run my games?
[03:56] <Mena> Hey
[03:57] <yapi> and there should be only one primary partition ..xp or xp and / should be both primary partitions?
[03:57] <don> can you run windows software like games?
[03:57] <Mena> yes
[03:57] <Mena> use wine
[03:58] <Mena> !wine
[03:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:58] <yapi> ?
[03:58] <don> what is wine I have heard of it
[03:58] <don> thanks
[03:58] <Mena> wine is  compatibility layer wich enable you to run Xp apps
[03:59] <Mena> yapi, i guess you better make Xp and / and swap primary partitions
[03:59] <DjDemon> hello
[04:00] <Mena> Hello
[04:00] <jjj> :-)
[04:00] <yapi> ok tnx
[04:00] <Mena> you are welcome
[04:00] <Mena> :)
[04:00] <yapi> :)
[04:02] <yapi> but then /home would also be rimary
[04:02] <jjj> does anyone here knows how to use winmodems in kubuntu/ubuntu other than the Linuxant drivers (which is not free)?
[04:02] <yapi> ..primary
[04:03] <AltKey> hello
[04:03] <Mena> yapi, /home located on the / root partition
[04:03] <Mena> yapi, so its on the primary partition
[04:04] <Mena> Hello
[04:04] <jup2> hi
[04:04] <yapi> but some other say that there shoulb be 3 partitions .. / , /home , and swap
[04:04] <yapi> ..should..
[04:04] <Mena> ???!!
[04:04] <Mena> i dont know any thing a bout this
[04:05] <Mena> maybe you get it wrong or maybe its me
[04:05] <jup2> i installed kde on my ubuntu but kde-core is not installed do i need it?
[04:05] <Mena> but its cant as i guess
 well, you can have 2 partitions for kubuntu (/ and swap) but it's recommended that you have a different one for /home :)
[04:05] <yapi> make up your mind ;p
[04:06] <Jucato> yapi: "you can" means it's technically possible. "it's recommended" means that you're advised to do it... no confusion there ;)
[04:06] <DjDemon> someone can tell me do kubuntu has included beryl?
[04:06] <Jucato> DjDemon: not installed or enabled by default.
[04:06] <yapi> so I can make 2 ;p
[04:06] <Jucato> you can install it using Adept Manager
[04:07] <Jucato> yapi: yes, you *can*
[04:07] <Jucato> (whether you want to depends on you)
[04:09] <jup2> i installed kde by install the kubuntu-desktop package  it works but the package kde and kde-core and x-window-system is not installed do i not need them??
[04:09] <Hobbsee> jup2: shouldnt do
[04:09] <jup2> ?
[04:09] <Jucato> jup2: nope. not necessary
[04:09] <jup2> okey
[04:10] <jup2> can i remove all the gnome stuff now then?
[04:11] <_4strO> jup2: you can try apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <Jucato> won't work neatly _4strO
[04:11] <Jucato> jup2: try this guide: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:12] <_4strO> Jucato: ok
[04:12] <jovan> where can i find seamonkey in the repo?
[04:12] <icecruncher> question, why does ubuntu not have a firewall preinstalled?
[04:12] <_4strO> icecruncher: he as one
[04:13] <boyee> Hi,How to do search in my installed packages?
[04:13] <jup2> thx
[04:13] <icecruncher> how do you configure it?
[04:13] <icecruncher> boyee, use dpkg -l
[04:13] <_Schlumpf> icecruncher: iptables
[04:13] <boyee> Oh,Thanks!
[04:13] <icecruncher> _Schlumpf: so are any others unecessary?
[04:13] <_4strO> icecruncher: or you can install some gui for manage it
[04:13] <icecruncher> ah
[04:13] <icecruncher> k
[04:14] <ofek> hi everyone
[04:14] <jovan> arno-iptables-firewall
[04:14] <icecruncher> hi
[04:15] <boyee> icecruncher.
[04:15] <LjL> icecruncher: because it has no internet accessible services installed
[04:15] <LjL> if you install services, you're supposed to be sane enough to also set up a firewall
[04:15] <icecruncher> lol
[04:15] <icecruncher> boyee, what?
[04:16] <DjDemon> oh, and tell me please, what program I need to view .pdf files?
[04:16] <icecruncher> kpdf
[04:16] <Jucato> DjDemon: kpdf (installed by default)
[04:16] <boyee> I want to remove all the package contains scim,but the dpkg -l scim don't show me all the packages i installed and only one package name scim.
[04:16] <voidmage> What resolution does kubuntu usplash use by default?
[04:17] <Jucato> voidmage: "cat /etc/usplash.conf" will tell you
[04:18] <sayers> Hello
[04:18] <boyee> icecruncher,How to print all packages' name I want above.
[04:18] <ofek> helloooooooo
[04:18] <icecruncher> boyee: print?
[04:18] <sayers> I have a problem with my keyboard, I can use it in a differnt terminal session but in KDE it doesnt respond after I log in.
[04:18] <fagin> Is there any decent KDE based cd ripper around?
[04:18] <boyee> print to shell.
[04:18] <boyee> show me in shell
[04:18] <icecruncher> that should do it
[04:19] <_4strO> fagin: k3b
[04:19] <icecruncher> dpkg -l doesnt do it?
[04:19] <Jucato> !ripping | fagin
[04:19] <ubotu> fagin: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[04:19] <boyee> any other parameter need?
[04:19] <icecruncher> boyee: another way is to a file with dpkg -l > packages.txt
[04:20] <fagin> _4strO: Nope. It rips images as far s I can tell. I want rips of indiviual files
[04:20] <boyee> Yes,It shows only one.
[04:20] <_4strO> sayers: I think it's about your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:20] <sangers> sayers: if nothing works, get rid of some files from your .kde and that should fix your keyboard problem
[04:20] <boyee> But it's not what I want.
[04:20] <_4strO> fagin: it rip CD too ;)
[04:20] <icecruncher> boyee: no
[04:20] <sayers> sangers how would I go about that
[04:20] <icecruncher> boyee: you want all the packages listed
[04:21] <sayers> it worked earlier
[04:21] <boyee> yes.Good.
[04:21] <_4strO> sangers: sudo aptget install libk3b2 libk3b2-mp3
[04:21] <fagin> _4strO: Yes, but does it rip individual files off from a CD? I only saw options for ripping an entire CD image.
[04:21] <sangers> sayers: from a plain text session go into your home/.kde/
[04:21] <Skrot-> Hi, is there a tool, like top, to measure I/O activity?
[04:21] <boyee> icecruncher.I want all the packages list contains scim I installed.
[04:22] <icecruncher> boyee: ok dpkg -l | grep scim
[04:22] <sangers> and if nothing important get rid of the directory, it will be recreate at next login, without your keyboard problem
[04:22] <boyee> Good.Thank you very much.icecruncher!
[04:22] <icecruncher> np
[04:23] <_4strO> fagin: I had try and it works, i can rip only one song if i want
[04:23] <sangers> sayers: my guess is kmail or evolution setting files corropted
[04:23] <don> has enyone installed wine it sounds tough
[04:23] <sayers> sangers well it happened when I ran a .package to install Warzone2100
[04:23] <sangers> sayers: that happen to me before, do a backup if you need to restore some setting
[04:24] <sayers> sangers bit late for that
[04:24] <fagin> _4strO: Great. Then I will try it again. Thank you for the help.
[04:24] <_4strO> fagin: ;)
[04:24] <sayers> sangers how else could I fix this?
[04:25] <ForgeAus> is there a command line to run the distro update tool?
[04:25] <sangers> sayers: did you restart your kde yet?
[04:25] <sayers> sangers yes
[04:25] <sayers> sangers i could try again I guess...
[04:26] <sangers> sayers: still no access to keyboard?
[04:26] <sangers> sayers: at the kdm login screen your keyboard works?
[04:27] <sayers> sangers yes
[04:28] <sangers> sayers: and do you get a fresh vanilla kde session?
[04:28] <icecruncher> ForgeAus: yes
[04:28] <sayers> sangers yes
[04:28] <icecruncher> !update | ForgeAus
[04:28] <ubotu> ForgeAus: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:29] <sangers> sayers: keyboard works inside kde now?
[04:29] <sayers> sangers no
[04:29] <plex> hi. first time i use kubuntu... how can i dl and install geforce fx 5600xt driver?
[04:29] <sangers> sayers: if you press on caplock do you get a green light on?
[04:30] <cables> !ubuntu | plex
[04:30] <ubotu> plex: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:30] <cables> damn
[04:30] <cables> !nvidia | plex
[04:30] <ubotu> plex: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:30] <plex> ty
[04:30] <cables> plex: that should be a little more helpful :)
[04:31] <ForgeAus> argh my ttf-opensymbol package has problems that means open office can't upgrade :(
[04:32] <ForgeAus> says : "/usr/share/fonts": error scanning
[04:32] <ForgeAus> for a few
[04:32] <ForgeAus> then: dpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--configure):
[04:33] <ForgeAus> I copied symbolic links to fonts for X guess it just wasn't enough
[04:34] <icecruncher> ForgeAus: sorry, don't know
[04:35] <plex> how is Restricted Device Manager called in kubuntu?
[04:35] <cables> plex: it isn't.
[04:35] <cables> plex: I believe it's only in Ubuntu.
[04:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> what's the command line argument to search for keywords in man pages?
[04:36] <ForgeAus> grep generally
[04:36] <ForgeAus> to search words but in man pages I'm not sure
[04:36] <tyfon_> apropos <word>
[04:36] <Hobbsee> dettoaltrimenti_: inside them?  /word
[04:36] <manu_> playmidi and amarok dont play my midifiles, someone can help?
[04:36] <manu_> http://paste.debian.net/26708
[04:36] <Yorokobi> man -k <keyword>
[04:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks tyfon_
[04:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> and what is the command to see all files that are open on your computer
[04:38] <tyfon_> lsof :)
[04:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks
[04:38] <don> anyone install Wine?
[04:38] <ForgeAus> sure
[04:38] <ForgeAus> lotsa people why?
[04:38] <don> It looks difficult
[04:38] <ForgeAus> (theres a #winehq channel in case your interested)
[04:39] <ForgeAus> nope
[04:39] <ForgeAus> simple just get it from adept
[04:39] <ForgeAus> there can be some complication depending on what you want to do with it
[04:39] <ForgeAus> and not every windows program works under it...
[04:39] <don> I checked outa site and it was very difficult to understand]
[04:40] <ForgeAus> maybe but it doesn't HAVE to be difficult in kubuntu depending on what you need to do
[04:40] <don> then i will have trouble getting 3D
[04:40] <ForgeAus> yes I aren't sure DirectX installs under wine
[04:41] <ForgeAus> (I tihnk thats partially what Cedega's for)
[04:41] <ForgeAus> (its a commercial fork of wine with extras)
[04:41] <ForgeAus> mostly in order to run some specific games
[04:41] <don> Everything I go to do has 3 text books of directions I just will have to learn
[04:42] <ForgeAus> what are you trying to do?
[04:42] <ForgeAus> maybe you can cut some of the unnecessary information
[04:42] <dettoaltrimenti_> don, what do you want to run in wine?
[04:43] <plex> does smbdy know if nvidia-glx-legacy is for fx5600xt or do i need glx-new ?
[04:43] <don> ya most does not matter usually just sounds tough
[04:43] <ForgeAus> Don wine isn't necessarily tough
[04:43] <don> I will start by getting Wine working
[04:43] <ForgeAus> it depends on the app and what lengths you need to go to to get it running
[04:43] <ForgeAus> some do some don't even work
[04:43] <Yorokobi> plex, if you try the new one and your X won't start, check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if the driver tells you to use the legacy (or regular nvidia-glx) driver.
[04:44] <ForgeAus> ok well go to adept and install it then
[04:44] <ForgeAus> thats the easiest bit :)
[04:44] <don> I have used crossover in Xandros that worked]
[04:44] <ForgeAus> yeah crossover is basically also a fork of wine with extras
[04:44] <plex> ty
[04:44] <icecruncher> don: and if your running feisty, there's some nice config
[04:44] <ForgeAus> it has some cushy dialogs to run stuff...
[04:44] <ForgeAus> all wine alone is is basically cxoffice without the glam
[04:45] <don> Where is a dept
[04:45] <ForgeAus> but most stuff you can do in one will also work in the other
[04:45] <ForgeAus> adept is your package manager
[04:45] <ForgeAus> in system ... manage packages is probably the best one to run
[04:45] <ForgeAus> (or if thats too hard just use add/remove programs in the k menu)
[04:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> don- k menu--> system
[04:46] <ForgeAus> yeah Dett, sorry I jumped ahead a few steps
[04:46] <don> I just reallized that I t does not understand either
[04:46] <ForgeAus> or you could type in console sudo adept_manager
[04:46] <jup2> hi
[04:47] <jup2> i installed this http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+with+Suse+Kickoff+Edgy+Elf+6.10?content=50240
[04:47] <jup2> but i cant get it work
[04:47] <jup2> it is not in add aplet :P
[04:47] <ForgeAus> um what is it?
[04:47] <ForgeAus> (is it like a start menu?)
[04:47] <jup2> yes
[04:47] <ForgeAus> it might be a kbfx theme or something
[04:47] <ForgeAus> so you might need kbfx first
[04:48] <jup2> aha
[04:48] <ForgeAus> and that is an applet for kicker
[04:48] <jhutchins> jup2: Any documentation come with it?
[04:48] <jup2> its a deb file
[04:48] <ForgeAus> deb is just the install package
[04:48] <jup2> yes
[04:48] <jup2> how to install kbfx?
[04:48] <ForgeAus> in adept
[04:49] <ForgeAus> its there (if you have the right repositories, assuming its not in the main one... )
[04:49] <ForgeAus> !kbfx
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <ForgeAus> hmmm thats interesting
[04:49] <Yorokobi> !info kbfx
[04:49] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[04:49] <ForgeAus> anyhow its a kmenu (like start menu for windows users) replacement
[04:50] <icecruncher> jup2: did you read everyting to the bottom of the page?
[04:50] <jhutchins> Is there an apt equivalent of rpm -qd <package>?
[04:50] <jup2> ?
[04:50] <ForgeAus> whats the qd mean?
[04:51] <icecruncher> jup2: 3 post from the bottom
[04:51] <jhutchins> ForgeAus: Lists any documentation included in the package.
[04:51] <jup2> ehm i have kbfx now
[04:51] <icecruncher> sorru, top
[04:51] <icecruncher> k
[04:51] <ForgeAus> kewl.. um not that I'm aware of
[04:51] <ForgeAus> but then I'm no apt officionado
[04:52] <mindspin> hi, what's the command to detect the UUID of an USB device?
[04:52] <jup2> how du i edit kbfx to use the new skin?
[04:52] <Yorokobi> jhutchins, debs usually have <package>-doc for documentation. Otherwise, all you get is some readmes and licensure in /usr/share/doc/<package>
[04:52] <ericsson> Anyone got NTFS 3G driver working in feisty?
[04:52] <Jucato> !uuid | mindspin
[04:52] <ubotu> mindspin: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:53] <mindspin> thanks
[04:54] <ForgeAus> dpkg -c lists contents
[04:54] <Yorokobi> jup2, use the KBFX Configurator it Kmenu -> Settings
[04:54] <ForgeAus> and -I shows info
[04:55] <ericsson> I've added an NTFS formatted drive in the machine (feisty) but I can't mount/see/touch/lick it, any tips?
[04:55] <jup2> but i can install theme in there but my deb file dont work :P
[04:56] <manu_> playmidi and amarok dont play my midifiles, someone can help?
[04:57] <manu_> http://paste.debian.net/26708
[04:57] <Moo-> Can someone help me? Where can I find the updgrade tool to updrade to Feisty? Adept said that it downloaded it but I can't find it
[04:58] <jhutchins> !midi | manu_
[04:58] <ubotu> manu_: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[04:58] <delphine> Moo-: reboot your system
[04:58] <jhutchins> Moo-
[04:58] <delphine> then start with new kernel
[04:58] <jhutchins> !upgrade
[04:58] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:59] <fagin> _4strO: I have figured ot how to rip single tracks with K3b now, and also how to encode them with mp3. Thanks again for your help.
[04:59] <jhutchins> Moo-: If you follow the link above to the Feisty page, it will tell you what to do.
[04:59] <jhutchins> Moo-: You need to add a special repo if you have kde 3.5.6 already, otherwise you just update your GUI Package tool.
[04:59] <jhutchins> Moo-: It should offer a system upgrade.
[05:00] <manu_> jhutchins what shall i do?
[05:00] <manu_> i only want to play mid files
[05:00] <manu_> via playmidi and amarok
[05:00] <jhutchins> manu_: Have you read the link ubotu sent you?
[05:00] <jup2> i can use k-menu and kbfx-menu  but the suse one i still cant get work :(
[05:00] <manu_> jhutchins yes its about server and instruments and hardware... but thats not my aim i think?
[05:00] <Moo-> jhutchins: It offered it, I downloaded it and it said that I should run the update-software but I can't find that software from anywhere
[05:00] <Analista_Ucsal> alguem do brasil?
[05:01] <jhutchins> manu_: I think if you follow it's directions and get midi working that way, it will work with amarok as well, but there may be plugins for amarok.