[04:22] <Out_Cold> alexandros, not beta
[04:22] <keepsake> alexandros: Karmic is out.
[04:22] <jarlath> Alf_Stewart, I had the same problem. There was a bug on launchpad about it but I don't think it's resolved yet.
[04:23] <alexandros> ubuntu  9.10   is  beta  edition or not?
[04:23] <alexandros> ubuntu  9.10   is  beta  edition or not?
[04:23] <alexandros> ubuntu  9.10   is  beta  edition or not?
[04:23] <FloodBot1> alexandros: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <Out_Cold> stupid troll
[04:23] <Alf_Stewart> jarlath ahh i see
[04:23] <keepsake> alexandros: Ubuntu 9.10 is out of beta.
[04:23] <Xfact> Out_Cold: I've just clicked on the icon then properties  then the command was there
[04:23] <Wilabob> undecim: See anything?
[04:23] <mzawieska> keepsake, which file system is preferable for xp fat 16 or fat 32?
[04:23] <jarlath> Alf_Stewart, it's a shame. It sounds like a great feature.
[04:23] <undecim> Wilabob: Okay, let's edit grub.cgf directly for a moment so that this is only a temporary change (i.e will be undone with update-grub), but can you change the colors in likes 46 and 47 of your grub.cfg file to something else? This will tell us if grub is reading your image or not.
[04:23] <Out_Cold> Xfact, i googled system monitor and cross refferenced it with ubuntu lol
[04:23] <keepsake> mzawieska: NTFS, if you can. Otherwise, FAT32.
[04:24] <Alf_Stewart> i think it has something to do with grub
[04:24] <Xfact> alexandros: it's released as stable but I think it's 'still not totally stable' like beta....
[04:24] <Xfact> lol
[04:24] <keepsake> Xfact: The 10 stands for October, so it's been out for months now =P
[04:24] <Alf_Stewart> i think when i installed linux i unchecked the box in the installation screen for installing a boot loader on the usb drive i think that might be why..can anyone confirm this?
[04:24] <Out_Cold> Xfact, there are always bugs when people modify the OS to their liking.... if everything worked perfect people would get charged to use ubuntu
[04:24] <Wilabob> undecim: Okay so what do you want me to do exactly?
[04:24] <undecim> Wilabob: For example, replace "set color_normal=light-green/green" with something like "set color_normal=red/blue", then restart and see if you see the color change in grub.
[04:25] <keepsake> Alf_Stewart: Of course. If you don't have the bootloader... you can't load Ubuntu =P
[04:25] <Alf_Stewart> damn it :)
[04:25] <O__o> keepsake, error
[04:25] <undecim> Wilabob: but don't change the lines with "menu_color" in them.
[04:25] <Wilabob> undecim: okay one sec
[04:25] <Alf_Stewart> fresh install here we come :P
[04:25] <tcarter> Any one know much abou nvidia geforce graphics card installation
[04:25] <jarlath> Alf_Stewart, I'm sorry - I thought you were talking about the USB creator.
[04:25] <keepsake> O__o: What's the error?
[04:25] <O__o> keepsake, something like python not support
[04:25] <keepsake> Alf_Stewart: Haha, good luck!
[04:25] <Alf_Stewart> jarlath no problems :)
[04:25] <Out_Cold> tcarter, ask and if we do, you'll get an answer
[04:26] <keepsake> O__o: Ick, python isn't installed.
[04:26] <O__o> keepsake, error: dependency is not satisfiable: python-support
[04:26] <O__o> keepsake, i have python
[04:26] <keepsake> O__o: Run "sudo apt-get install python python-cairo python-gobject python-gtk2 python-support"
[04:26] <Xfact> well, Ubuntu promise it'll be free forever, and people always expect perfect product in this time, and ubuntu 9.10 is not that stable as compare to other version till 8.04
[04:27] <Out_Cold> O__o, if it requires python 3 you may break a lot of older python dependent apps
[04:27] <O__o> then i may just forget it and install amsn to try
[04:27] <keepsake> Out_Cold, O__o: It doesn't require python3
[04:27] <tcarter> I am trying to run the installer for my nividia graphics card. when i run   **sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx the** i am asked to specify one of 4 diff types and i don't know the difference between them? Any ideas
[04:27] <keepsake> Out_Cold, O__o: At least, I don't think it does >>
[04:28] <Xfact> 9.10 doing lots of tik tak toe problems on my computer but I am still happy because it's awesome!
[04:28] <keepsake> O__o: Try just "sudo apt-get install python-support"
[04:28] <Out_Cold> not sure.. but after installing python3 and symlinking it to /usr/bin/python i almost broke my system..
[04:28] <O__o> keepsake, installing amsn wait
[04:28] <keepsake> Out_Cold: I'm pretty sure the one in the repos is still 2.6.4 >>
[04:29] <Out_Cold> yea... they haven't added 3 i don't think
[04:29] <Out_Cold> for good reasons too
[04:29] <jarlath> Xfact, I'm convinced that the stability of Ubuntu depends completely on what hardware you're running. It works really well for me. I've had no crashes.. yet.
[04:29] <keepsake> Out_Cold: Yup, look
[04:29] <keepsake> !info python
[04:29] <O__o> keepsake, amsn works
[04:30] <O__o> but where is the shortcut?
[04:30] <Wilabob> undecim: No that didn't do anything but to change the colour I had to edit the menu lines before
[04:30] <keepsake> O__o: Make one =P
[04:30] <Out_Cold> jarlath, i crash all the time.. but my motto is " if you don't break your ubuntu box, you aren't trying hard enough"
[04:30] <tcarter> no one has any idea about the nvidia question?
[04:30] <undecim> Wilabob: Okay, that means that Grub doesn't like your image file.
[04:30] <Out_Cold> tcarter, what card?
[04:30] <keepsake> O__o: Otherwise, isn't it in Internet or something?
[04:31] <tcarter> gt 2203
[04:31] <O__o> keepsake, its not there
[04:31] <tcarter> gt220
[04:31] <keepsake> O__o: Do you want one in menu or on desktop?
[04:31] <Wilabob> undecim: so... why would they include an image that it didn't like?
[04:31] <O__o> i have amsn long time ago, it should be in internet but this time it is not there
[04:31] <O__o> of course in the meny
[04:31] <devero> yo can anyone help me with a webcam problem ?
[04:31] <O__o> menu
[04:31] <Out_Cold> tcarter, and you don't know which number to install??
[04:31] <undecim> Wilabob: can you make sure that /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 exists?
[04:32] <jarlath> Out_Cold, yikes - that's a real pity. Was it like that on clean install or have you just been 'playing' with it :)
[04:32] <Xfact> in 9.10 After installing in update manager it showing I can update my 'gdm' and it's related files' but after updateing on next restart ether, my gnome desktop unavailable or the screen and all the lights  of my computer flickering horribly! (scary) thats a big problem :( I am still unknown to the reason... and my hardware is probably 1 yrs old...
[04:32] <keepsake> O__o: Go into the menu editor and try adding "amsn"
[04:32] <O__o> got it
[04:32] <Out_Cold> jarlath, i always play.... mind you that's the beauty of ubuntu.... on fresh installs i never have issues
[04:33] <tcarter> out-cold, well i downloaded a driver from nividia ffor my card but cant run the .run file. when i use the terminal i can't tell which of the for it's askig me about to install
[04:33] <Wilabob> undecim: Yes, it does.
[04:33] <jarlath> Out_Cold, ah ok.
[04:33] <keepsake> tcarter: How are you running it?
[04:33] <Out_Cold> tcarter, wrong way to go about it for a noob..... go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[04:33] <Xfact> anyone can access my desktop through remote desktop?
[04:34] <tcarter> the one i have from nvidia...just clicking on the file
[04:34] <jarlath> Xfact, that's a pity. I've stuck with Ubuntu because it's always run well for me on my laptops / desktop. But if I was experiencing intermittent trouble I'm sure I'd loose it!
[04:34] <keepsake> tcarter: You'll need do "sudo sh /path/to/file"
[04:34] <undecim> Wilabob: Then other then the possibility that grub simply CANNOT read that image, I see no reason why it shouldn't display.
[04:34] <tcarter> out_cold, got it...i'll give it a try
[04:34] <LinuX2half> how do I know if I can run an 64 bit operating system?
[04:35] <Out_Cold> tcarter, you can also run the script call that keepsake offered
[04:35] <keepsake> LinuX2half: Well, are you in ubuntu/linux right now?
[04:35] <Wilabob> so I should move it to the default grub image location?
[04:35] <Out_Cold> LinuX2half, do you have a 64 bit processor?
[04:35] <tcarter> out_cold, thanks
[04:35] <LinuX2half> How could I check?
[04:35] <Out_Cold> LinuX2half, are you in ubuntu?
[04:35] <keepsake> LinuX2half: If you're in linux, "sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo" then pastebin the output
[04:36] <LinuX2half> Yes I'm running Ubuntu
[04:36] <undecim> Wilabob: will your reolution go as small as 640x480?
[04:36] <undecim> Wilabob: use the "xrandr" command to list available video modes.
[04:37] <LinuX2half> Out_Cold, keepsake: http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5e49384d
[04:37] <Wilabob> undecim: Yeah, it will.
[04:37] <Wilabob> undecim: Why?
[04:37] <keepsake> LinuX2half: I don't think you can go 64-bit on that.
[04:37] <Out_Cold> i'm still loading.... bandwidth is buggered today
[04:37] <LinuX2half> keepsake: really? So I can only run 32 bits?
[04:38] <undecim> Wilabob: Because if grub can't get into gfxterm mode, it won't display a background.
[04:38] <Out_Cold> LinuX2half, most definitely 32 bit lol
[04:38] <keepsake> LinuX2half: Yeah, but to be honest, 32-bit isn't really a big disadvantage or something.
[04:38] <zig_> Oops, sorry.
[04:38] <ghufran> hi .. i need some help .. i have 9.1 64 bit installed on my system and suddenly wireless has stopped working (it was working fine earlier) .. also i added some programs in my startup .. they no longer run at startup
[04:39] <ghufran> how can i resolve this?
[04:39] <LinuX2half> keepsake: why? I thought 64 bit can handle intense cpu level
[04:39] <Out_Cold> LinuX2half, 64 bit just uses memory more efficiently when it can
[04:39] <tcarter> out_cold, when i ran the script call that keepsake mentioned i got a blue screen that said:     ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root
[04:39] <Out_Cold> tcarter, so run sudo sh
[04:39] <keepsake> LinuX2half: It can, there are issues with compatibility and such; for common users 32-bit is easier.
[04:40] <Out_Cold> tcarter, which was in his script call
[04:40] <tcarter> out_cold, I did
[04:40] <kaiser2011> hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu 64 bit on my laptop. I had something to ask regarding sound
[04:40] <Out_Cold> tcarter, can you past the command?
[04:40] <LinuX2half> keepsake: so then 32 bit have fewer issue than 64 bits?
[04:40] <tcarter> out_cold,sh /path/to/file
[04:40] <keepsake> tcarter: "sudo sh /path/to/file"
[04:40] <scott_ino2> keepsake, might have been the case years ago, but ive found that 64-bit is pretty much on par with 32-bit at this point
[04:40] <Out_Cold> tcarter, sudo sh /path to file
[04:41] <keepsake> scott_ino2: While that may be true, there are still a lot of programs that need wrappers =\
[04:41] <tcarter> out_cold, ok let me see
[04:41] <scott_ino2> keepsake, such as?
[04:41] <keepsake> LinuX2half: Generally speaking it's like that.
[04:41] <Wilabob> undecim: Any suggestions?
[04:41] <undecim> Wilabob: Care for another reboot?
[04:41] <keepsake> scott_ino2: Well, the last time I used Ubuntu, Flash was wrapped, and some other things like webcams. I dunno how it's changed since then though.
[04:41] <jarlath> LinuX2half, it's faster for processor intensive stuff like 3D rendering (Blender) and such. But your normal desktop experience won't be noticably faster.
[04:42] <scott_ino2> keepsake, flash has been native 64-bit player and libraries for well over a year now :)
[04:42] <Wilabob> undecim: Sure.
[04:42] <undecim> Wilabob: 1 sec...
[04:42] <nomnex> SMPayer, when I watch a movie the screen dim to black after 10 min.
[04:42] <keepsake> scott_ino2: Flash 10? Damn, it's been long.
[04:42] <jarlath> LinuX2half, there's a performance test done here comparing 32bit and 64bit ubuntu http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1%22
[04:42] <scott_ino2> keepsake, yeah honestly flash and java id agree with you, but they're solid now.
[04:42] <tcarter> out_cold, does this look right:       sh /home/tcarter/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-190.53-pkg2.run
[04:43] <Out_Cold> tcarter, where is sudo??
[04:43] <Out_Cold> sudo sh
[04:43] <LinuX2half> jarlath: thanks for the information.
[04:43] <mezimezim> I
[04:43] <mezimezim> Hi
[04:43] <jarlath> LinuX2half, np
[04:43] <LinuX2half> keepsake, Out_cold; thanks
[04:43] <chu_> gday, mezimezim.
[04:43] <mzawieska> is there a way to install photoshop cs4 on ubuntu 9?
[04:43] <titan_ark> Hey, could anyone help me out on restarting powerdaemon?
[04:43] <tcarter> out_cold, aha....gottcha
[04:43] <keepsake> scott_ino2: That's great =P I'm planning a switch back =P
[04:44] <scott_ino2> from?
[04:44] <keepsake> scott_ino2: I'm running W7 atm.
[04:44] <titan_ark> Everytime my notebook goes into sleep mode, it then says there is no battery
[04:44] <mezimezim> I have a language issue in Ubuntu: I have a french version of it and some programs are not in French anymore (ubuntu9.10) any idea?
[04:44] <keepsake> mzawieska: Check appdb
[04:44] <undecim> Wilabob: Okay, the menu_color lines you edited earlier... Can you past a copy of the after the line " if terminal_output gfxterm ; then true ; else ", and change the colors on them again?
[04:44] <Out_Cold> !tab > Out_Cold
[04:44] <keepsake> !appdb | mezimezim
[04:44] <undecim> Wilabob: Wait, that was a stupid suggestion....
[04:44] <mezimezim> these are : Epiphany, Xchat, Gnucash, all well integrated in gnome, there might be a link
[04:44] <mzawieska> keepsake, appdb?
[04:44] <scott_ino2> keepsake, honestly the last year and a half has been RAPID development, I remember just two years ago the work I had to do to get wireless working, now pretty much 90 percent of the new hardware out there works
[04:44] <jamiejackson> i've got a problem upgrading my kernel: http://jamiejackson.pastebin.com/fd45622 "dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" <= can you help me fix?
[04:45] <Wilabob> undecim: Let me reboot, Im trying something
[04:45] <keepsake> scott_ino2: Good thing I've been using ethernet cables for a few years now =P
[04:45] <tcarter> out_cold, how do i exit X server
[04:45] <undecim> Wilabob: instead of copying them, just cut-and-paste them there, and see if the color disappears.
[04:45] <mezimezim> someone should kick ubottu out!
[04:45] <mezimezim> I never asked for MS advertisement!
[04:45] <keepsake> scott_ino2: I've been running karmic since one of the alphas, I believe. It was not that great back then =P
[04:45] <Out_Cold> tcarter, you need to either reboot or go ctrl+alt+f1, log in the restart gdm
[04:46] <meowbuntu> anyone like linuxmint os
[04:46] <chu_> I believe the appdb message was meant for mzawieska, keepsake mistakingly read his name as yours.
[04:46] <keepsake> mezimezim: If you want to run Photoshop in Ubuntu, you'll need to WINE the Windows version.
[04:46] <Out_Cold> **then "restart gdm"
[04:46] <Wilabob> ok, thing is I'm writing this on my macbook...
[04:46] <LinuX2half> I want to also ask if its possible to update your BIOS?
[04:46] <Wilabob> undecim: ok, thing is I'm writing this on my macbook...
[04:46] <Xfact> keepsake: photoshop like heavy program can run on WINE?
[04:46] <mzawieska> chu_, what is appdb?
[04:46] <Out_Cold> LinuX2half, i don't think that has anything to do with the OS
[04:46] <keepsake> Xfact: I used to run PS CS2 using Wine, and it worked perfectly fine.
[04:46] <chu_> !appdb | mzawieska
[04:47] <mezimezim> I know that! But why would ubottu start telling me about Wine 30 sec after I joind the forum?
[04:47] <Xfact> probably application database
[04:47] <keepsake> chu_, mezimezim: You're right, chu_, I mistabbed to mezimezim instead of mzawieska =P
[04:47] <scott_ino2> Xfact, should work fine in wine, the google guys made sure that's one of the programs that works pretty darn well
[04:47] <Vantrax> tabfail:P
[04:47] <LinuX2half> Out_cold: its not actually....but probably I'll found some information from my manufacturer
[04:47] <scott_ino2> since it was the number1 most requested
[04:47] <Voss> I was registering with publishers clearing house, and they asked me what operating system I had and it actually had a choice for linux!
[04:47] <scott_ino2> YESsss
[04:48] <scott_ino2> Voss, yes!
[04:48] <titan_ark> hey any idea on how to restart a daemon? n00b here!
[04:48] <keepsake> titan_ark: "A" daemon? Which one?
[04:48] <titan_ark> power management says i have no battery everytime my notebook goes into sleep
[04:48] <Out_Cold> LinuX2half, your bios is specific to the MB... even if you modify/change/erase the OSs your bios is self sufficient
[04:48] <titan_ark> so i want to restart powerdevil
[04:48] <jamiejackson> titan_ark "sudo /etc/init.d/<daemonName> restart" <= this is how i restart most of them
[04:49] <chu_> Holy!!! keepsake... are you using irssi? I had no idea it supported tabbed completion of nicknames.. That's beautiful.
[04:49] <Out_Cold> Voss is gonna win the $1 000 000
[04:49] <Xfact>  keepsake:  maybe then you have hi fi hardware, in my pc google talk like lite app doesn't work on WINE but I have 9.10 with latest version of WINE installed... :(
[04:49] <scott_ino2> LinuX2half, I don't know the name of it but there's a native linux program,process under development that can flash new bios
[04:49] <keepsake> chu_: I'm using mIRC =P
[04:49] <scott_ino2> that works for certain motherboards
[04:49] <Voss> Its 10 million now ;-)
[04:49] <LinuX2half> Well thanks anyway guys
[04:49] <keepsake> Xfact: It isn't perfect, but yeah, Photoshop CS2 runs well on my comp.
[04:50] <gotsanity-book> is there any way to check what chipset of touchpad I am using?
[04:50] <Xfact> nice
[04:50] <titan_ark> jamiejackson: it says command not found!
[04:50] <keepsake> titan_ark: What did you run?
[04:50] <titan_ark> jamiejackson: sudo: /etc/init.d/powerdevil: command not found
[04:50] <nomnex> how do I know if I can run a ubuntu 64 on my notebook?
[04:50] <jamiejackson> titan_ark: remove the colon after sudo
[04:50] <Out_Cold> nomnex, try a 64 bit live cd
[04:51] <titan_ark> jamiejackson, keepsake: sudo /etc/init.d/powerdevil restart
[04:51] <titan_ark> is what i ran
[04:51] <nomnex> Out_Cold, forgive the question but all the apps like Open Office are compatible 64?
[04:51] <keepsake> titan_ark: See if "power-devil" works
[04:51] <keepsake> nomnex: Of course.
[04:51] <Out_Cold> not all but almost... i am pretty sure open office is
[04:51] <mzawieska> anything similar that runs on ubuntu 9 to photoshop for website development?
[04:51] <jamiejackson> titan_ark: you can also let it tab complete sudo /etc/init.d/pow...
[04:51] <titan_ark> keepsake: same thing!
[04:52] <Out_Cold> mzawieska, tried gimp??
[04:52] <Wilabob> undecim: I can't seem to find this line if terminal_output gfxterm ; then true ; else
[04:52] <dtb> hey all - how does `sudo` remember that you've already typed your password in? ie: using sudo multiple times in a row only prompts first time for password.
[04:52] <scott_ino2> nomnex, that's one of the strong features of linux, pretty much everything has a 64 bit version
[04:52] <jamiejackson> if not, i dunno how.
[04:52] <infid> mzawieska:  photoshop isnt for web dev, maybe web design
[04:52] <jarlath> nomnex, when you install the Ubuntu 64 desktop you get the full install, same as 32 bit, with all those applications.
[04:52] <mzawieska> yupp i mean for web design
[04:52] <Out_Cold> dtb, there is a 10 minute timeout
[04:52] <nomnex> scott_ino2, all, great, got to try it. thanks
[04:52] <mzawieska> so anything closed to photoshop?
[04:52] <tcarter> out_cold, ok i rebooted but get the same message...what did you mean about logging in gdm
[04:52] <Xfact> 'gdm' and 'gdm-setting-daemon' messing my pc when I am updating...any way to get back my pc same as before if gdm does any bad stuff with my pc... (like in windows 'system restore')
[04:52] <Xfact> ?
[04:52] <undecim> Wilabob: Line 27 in grub.cfg, right after insmod gfterm and insmod vbe
[04:53] <titan_ark> jamiejackson: damn, power devil doesnt come up in the list
[04:53] <xod> hi,
[04:53] <keepsake> mzawieska: GIMP or something
[04:53] <NFischer> Hi all, how do i stream music through my LAN?! i just set up an gnump3d Server but i dont want a on-demand server but rather an LAN-Radio cahnnel in which i can arbitrarily tune in..
[04:53] <Out_Cold> tcarter, what's the error??
[04:53] <xod> how do i play AAC files on exaile?
[04:53] <scott_ino2> mzawieska, GIMP is "similar" to photoshop, I came from photoshop and can now pretty much do everythign i could there in gimp
[04:53] <xod> it seems that there's no codec for it available in package manager?
[04:53] <scott_ino2> however... it will take some time to learn a new program
[04:53] <undecim> Wilabob: actually, I have a better idea than rebooting.
[04:53] <Out_Cold> mzawieska, gimp is the closest gnu app to PS
[04:53] <scott_ino2> mzawieska, but gimp is VERY powerful just like photoshop once you learn it
[04:53] <keepsake> scott_ino2: Personally I'd just Wine it =P
[04:53] <tcarter> out_cold, you must be running an X server...you must exit X
[04:53] <scott_ino2> keepsake, i like open source
[04:53] <mzawieska> scott_ino2, u can cut off too and do it to be able to work with dreamweaver
[04:53] <Wilabob> undecim: OK, shoot
[04:53] <undecim> You said you are chatting with your macbook, rather than the computer we are troubleshooting, correct?
[04:54] <Wilabob> undecim: Yeah
[04:54] <keepsake> scott_ino2: There's also GimpShop which emulates a PS environment.
[04:54] <scott_ino2> mzawieska, slices?
[04:54] <Out_Cold> tcarter, you need to install via command line then....
[04:54] <undecim> Wilabob: Go to the command line from the grub menu (ctrl+c, I believe)
[04:54] <scott_ino2> mzawieska, also google Pixel32
[04:54] <Out_Cold> tcarter, got another computer to chat on??
[04:54] <Wilabob> undecim: OK
[04:54] <mzawieska> scott_ino2, so which one do u recommend?
[04:54] <undecim> Wilabob: let me know when you're there.
[04:54] <tcarter> out_cold, no just this one
[04:55] <Wilabob> undecim: K
[04:55] <keepsake> scott_ino2, mzawieska: Pixel is not open source, and costs $3x. Use GIMP if you want a starter program.
[04:55] <Out_Cold> tcarter, well.... you get that error when you try to run the sudo sh command??
[04:55] <scott_ino2> mzawieska, GIMP can probably do everything you want, however like photoshop, it's a complex program and takes time to master. so depends on how patient you are.
[04:55] <Wilabob> undecim: Im here
[04:55] <scott_ino2> keepsake, i know just letting him know options
[04:55] <tcarter> out_cold, yes
[04:55] <LinuX2half> Good night...
[04:55] <Out_Cold> tcarter, well get your pen and paper ready then...
[04:55] <jamiejackson> oh well, titan_ark, it's not turning up in google?
[04:56] <mzawieska> scott_ino2, thank you :)
[04:56] <undecim> Wilabob: okay, type "terminal_output" and tell me what you get.
[04:56] <jarlath> Good night LinuX2half.
[04:56] <scott_ino2> mzawieska, np, honestly i hated gimp at first coming from 5+years of photoshop, now it's all I use
[04:56] <Wilabob> undecim: gfxterm *console
[04:56] <scott_ino2> but i also took the time to learn it
[04:56] <chu_> GIMP is moving to a single interface on their next major release, maybe you'll want to look into GIMPShop until then? I don't know, learning the multiple window approach to GIMP and then having it changed on you the next version seems a bit silly.
[04:56] <titan_ark> jamiejackson: i got the same way to do it for restarting processes. just checking up on powerdevil now
[04:57] <tcarter> out_cold, got it
[04:57] <undecim> Wilabob: type lsmod, and look for "vbe", and "tga" modules in the list.
[04:57] <scott_ino2> chu_, they're seriously doing that? wow can't believe they'd do that after all these years saying how they didnt want a to be a photoshop clone
[04:57] <keepsake> scott_ino2: I won't deny that Pixel looks amazing though
[04:57] <scott_ino2> keepsake, i tried it roughly 2-3 years ago
[04:57] <scott_ino2> it's not bad... honestly id just rather use gimp at this point now
[04:57] <keepsake> scott_ino2: If you get used to it/if you support GNU, it's of course the better option =P
[04:57] <NFischer> Hi all, how do i stream music through my LAN?! i just set up an gnump3d Server but i dont want a on-demand server but rather an LAN-Radio cahnnel in which i can arbitrarily tune in..
[04:58] <scott_ino2> keepsake, i have no issue with close sourced software really, other than the fact that it usually wont run on linux
[04:58] <Wilabob> undecim: How do I go up? a bunch a code covered the screen and I don't see those things.
[04:58] <jarlath> Hows Krita coming along these days? It was showing promise last time I checked - about two years ago.
[04:58] <undecim> Wilabob: Shift + Page Up?
[04:58] <keepsake> scott_ino2: That's true. Pixel is also one of the few pay-to-use software I've seen on Linux, although, I have stuck with mostly GNU/freeware.
[04:58] <Out_Cold> 1. ctrl+alt+f1  2. log in  3. sudo stop gdm 4. sudo sh /path/to/file 5. sudo reboot
[04:58] <chu_> scott_ino2: http://www.chromecode.com/2009/10/single-window-mode-progress-report.html
[04:58] <Wilabob> undecim: nope
[04:58] <Out_Cold> ** tcarter ^^
[04:58] <undecim> Wilabob: this could be a problem...
[04:58] <scott_ino2> chu_, thanks for the link
[04:58] <tcarter> out_cold, i am ready
[04:59] <Wilabob> undecim: ...lol
[04:59] <Out_Cold> tcarter, 1. ctrl+alt+f1  2. log in  3. sudo stop gdm 4. sudo sh /path/to/file 5. sudo reboot
[04:59] <undecim> Wilabob: try "set gfxmode=1024x768" and see if that changes your resolution in grub.
[04:59] <philyaw> I did something with themes on Kubuntu and bam, my keyboard didn't work anymore and the bar above windows disappeared to where I couldn't close anything again.  I'm about to uninstall if this doesn't seem familiar to anyone.
[04:59] <titan_ark> jamiejackson: is it possible to check the version using the version command?
[04:59] <chu_> The single or multiple window interface will be optional. Interesting. Might as well start learning GIMP now :p
[04:59] <scott_ino2> chu_, optional i see :)
[04:59] <titan_ark> it gives the same error
[05:00] <matelot> ? can someone tell me how to burn mp3 to CD to be played on ordinary cd player ?
[05:00] <geitenneuker> burp
[05:00] <scott_ino2> chu_, take the time to learn it, like really learn it. I can pretty much do everything i could with photoshop at this point
[05:00] <Wilabob> undecim: no, maybe that's the resolution im in?
[05:00] <scott_ino2> chu_, i still hate how they do text though:)
[05:00] <Out_Cold> matelot, try installing k3b
[05:00] <tcarter> out_cold, thanks i'll be back shortley
[05:00] <undecim> Wilabob: Aright, try "terminal console" and the "terminal gfxterm" to change your resolution
[05:00] <keepsake> scott_ino2: PS had a nice text-manipulation engine =P
[05:01] <Out_Cold> tcarter, good luck ;)
[05:01] <matelot> Out_Cold, can Brasero do it ?
[05:01] <scott_ino2> keepsake, not just that, even making edits to text layers is overly complicated with gimp
[05:01] <mcnellis> I'm commanding sudo kill -9 PID but it won't kill my process ... is there something else i need to do?
[05:01] <Out_Cold> matelot, never tried.... but i'll check now for you
[05:01] <keepsake> scott_ino2: What about Pixel?
[05:02] <Wilabob> undecim: It says unknown command "terminal"
[05:02] <Out_Cold> matelot, the first option "create traditional cd" in brasero sould do it
[05:02] <scott_ino2> keepsake, what about it?
[05:02] <scott_ino2> keepsake, i actually still have my code for pixel, i should try it again.
[05:02] <matelot> Out_Cold, ah yes, try it now thanks
[05:02] <keepsake> scott_ino2: You have the source?
[05:03] <undecim> Wilabob: Okay, grub is just being a pain now.... Try "rmmod tga" and "rmmod vbe"
[05:03] <scott_ino2> keepsake, let me see if my login still works, i don't think they gave out .src
[05:03] <Out_Cold> mcnellis, what are you trying to kill?? you replace PID with a number
[05:03] <keepsake> scott_ino2: Ah, I see what you mean.
[05:03] <Wilabob> undecim: rmmod tga works but rmmod vbe says no such module
[05:03] <mcnellis> Yeah Out_Cold the specific PID is 9805, just didn't include that in my message lol
[05:04] <undecim> Wilabob: that's likely the problem then.
[05:04] <mcnellis> so my command was sudo kill -9 9805 but the process won't die
[05:04] <mcnellis> it's a firefox process
[05:04] <Wilabob> undecim: anyway of fixing it?
[05:04] <Out_Cold> mcnellis, try this in terminal: ps aux | grep your_app (like wine)
[05:04] <undecim> Wilabob: 1 sec...
[05:05] <undecim> Wilabob: I need to figure out exactly what vbe does.
[05:05] <mcnellis> yeah Out_Cold that's what I used to to find the PID and verify that it's still running after I did "kill -9 9805"
[05:05] <FiReSTaRT> undecim: sudo killall process_name
[05:05] <undecim> Wilabob: I know it's involved in graphics, but that's the extent of my knowledge on it... brb, google.
[05:05] <Out_Cold> mcnellis, i think that one from FiReSTaRT was for you
[05:06] <akio> I am using Lucid, but I imagine there is more help here as #ubuntu+1 seems pretty dead right now
[05:06] <mcnellis> yeah I tried that too FiReSTaRT used sudo killall firefox
[05:06] <mcnellis> still won't die :|
[05:06] <unop> mcnellis, what's the state of the process as per 'ps aux' ?
[05:06] <akio> keyboard doen't work in X, touchpad does - after safe-upgrade this happened
[05:06] <akio> I imagine it has to do with hal removal
[05:07] <mcnellis> unop: me      9805  2.0  5.6<PHONE_NUMBER>92 ?       D    12:59  10:06 /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.5/firefox
[05:07] <Guest84798>  /nick chri5
[05:08] <Out_Cold> what state is D?
[05:08] <undecim> Wilabob: Try changing that "insmod vbe" to "insmod vga" in the config file.
[05:08] <unop> mcnellis, state D indicate "Uninterruptible sleep (usually IO)" -- meaning that the process is waiting for some suspended IO to complete, things like a hung disk access, network, etc
[05:08] <NFischer> Hi all, how do i stream music through my LAN?! i just set up an gnump3d Server but i dont want a on-demand server but rather an LAN-Radio cahnnel in which i can arbitrarily tune in..
[05:08] <UpgradeOrNot> Hey everyone. I've been thinking about upgrading to 9.10 from 9.04 for a while. Anyone have any specific reasons I should upgrade?
[05:08] <Wilabob> undecim: Okay just startin
[05:08] <X-722> Anyone here run ubuntu on an asus eee?
[05:08] <DrManhattan> why not?
[05:08] <mcnellis> interesting unop ... is there anything i cna do to kill the process? I don't know why it's still running i don't have a window open i just see the process running when i run ps aux
[05:09] <usser> NFischer, icecast is one option
[05:09] <Out_Cold> mcnellis, try a reboot?
[05:09] <undecim> X-722: I set up an eee for my sister.
[05:09] <Wilabob> undecim: Where do I find that in the file?
[05:09] <FiReSTaRT> UpgradeOrNot: if all of your hardware is working properly under 9.04, stick with it.. 9.10 was more unstable i.m.e.
[05:09] <mcnellis> damn I was hoping that wouldn't be my only option but it seems it is :(
[05:09] <X-722> undecim: Do you recall which model it was?
[05:09] <mcnellis> such a pain to launch all my programs again lol
[05:10] <Out_Cold> i think that kill has an option to get rid of it... but not sure which one
[05:10] <undecim> Wilabob: /boot/grub/grub.cfg  If this fix works, we will need to edit other files to make it work after update-grub though.
[05:10] <Wilabob> undecim: what line?
[05:10] <NFischer> usser, yeah, looks nice, thx!
[05:10] <FiReSTaRT> UpgradeOrNot: the only reason i didn't revert to jaunty was that karmic fixed my suspend and got my built-in mic working
[05:10] <undecim> Wilabob: 26
[05:10] <Wilabob> undecim: nvm
[05:10] <geitenneuker> is there a upnp client available to read DLNA stuff from WMP or such stuff?
[05:10] <unop> mcnellis, Out_Cold - you cannot kill a process in state D -- you'll have to wait it out or fix the IO problem
[05:10] <braintorch> Hi. Does anybody know how to fix ps cutting process' names in terminal?
[05:10] <UpgradeOrNot> FiReSTaRT: One thing me and another user have found is that when 9.10 is loading, that loading bar seems to make it seem slower. :P
[05:11] <undecim> X-722: It was a 900 model. 901A, I believe.
[05:11] <unop> mcnellis, what was firefox doing before you attempted to kill it?
[05:11] <geitenneuker> i thougnt T3000
[05:11] <Out_Cold> lol mcnellis reboot
[05:11] <FiReSTaRT> UpgradeOrNot: i've also experienced slower boot and buggy gnome (a couple of applets crapped out on me)
[05:11] <UpgradeOrNot> FiRtSTaRT: Yeah I think I'll just stay with 9.04 for now. Thanks.
[05:11] <X-722> undecim: Everything install ok on it?
[05:11] <X-722> I mean, everything work after install?
[05:11] <Wilabob> undecim: nothing happened
[05:12] <mcnellis> unop: not sure I had just closed firefox before and when I came back to my comp i tried to open it again and got the message that it was still running so I used ps aux | grep firefox and here i am trying to kill it heh
[05:12] <Wilabob> undecim: Any other suggestion? I have to go soon
[05:12] <mcnellis> i guess it just never properly closed the window?
[05:12] <undecim> X-722: Yeah. Even wireless worked out of the box.
[05:12] <jonas3> good day
[05:12] <X-722> undecim: Thank you
[05:12] <unop> mcnellis, and did you do a kill -9 right off the bat?
[05:12] <FiReSTaRT> UpgradeOrNot: good choice.. i loved jaunty but still had those pet peeves.. had to carry around an extra mic and couldn't suspend first thing in the morning
[05:12] <mcnellis> no tried killall firefox first
[05:13] <FiReSTaRT> i mean resume
[05:13] <mcnellis> it was in state D from the beginning though
[05:13] <undecim> Wilabob: I have no idea. other than the fact that the vbe module isn't there, I don't see any reason it wouldn't work, but the vga module should have worked.
[05:13] <unop> mcnellis, can you open another instance of firefox?
[05:13] <Wilabob> undecim: Damn... I g2g then. Thanks for your help again.
[05:14] <mcnellis> unop: only if I launch with the profile manager and use a dif profile
[05:14] <x_> is there a program or terminal code to figure out how hot is my cpu fan?
[05:14] <UpgradeOrNot> FiReSTaRT: I remember trying 9.10 a while ago but I didn't like the theme and some of the apps crashed on me. But luckily I have support for all of my hardware, if I ever decided to upgrade in the future.
[05:14] <jonas3> sorry to ask about this (noob here) but i'm having trouble installing my samsung printer on jaunty...can anyone help?
[05:14] <unop> mcnellis, strange, guess a reboot is imminent then - it's probably the only thing you can do
[05:15] <FiReSTaRT> UpgradeOrNot: exactly.. hopefully they'll iron out the gnome bugs by 10.04.. keeping 9.10 on my media center though.. there it's perfect
[05:15] <mcnellis> k thanks for your help unop Out_Cold .... brb :)
[05:15] <freaky[t]> is there any good note taking & sharing tool?
[05:15] <chuche> It should be automatically recognized once you plug it in. Of course it isn't going to notifiy a la Windows but you can try printing in OpenOffice.
[05:15] <x_> is there a program or terminal code to figure out how hot is cpu?
[05:15] <chuche> There you will see it detected.
[05:15] <jonas3> i did that already but it says CUPS scheduling is not running..
[05:16] <blakkheim> freaky[t]: vi
[05:17] <freaky[t]> blakkheim i dont want to use vi for that
[05:17] <freaky[t]> i mean for gnome
[05:17] <FiReSTaRT> UpgradeOrNot: maybe i should just turn off upgrades.. an upgrade screwed up the suspend function for me when i was running on hardy :P
[05:17] <Out_Cold> yipeee.... new movie downloaded... see ya all later
[05:17] <fatface> in gnome is there any way to change the color of the scrollbar?
[05:18] <chu_> what's wrong with vi?
[05:18] <nulled> !dvd
[05:18] <unop> freaky[t], zim
[05:18] <jonas3> any advice on how to run CUPS scheduler?
[05:18] <unop> !info zim
[05:18] <UpgradeOrNot> FiReSTaRT: Hopefully nothing messes up my configuration because I turned on automatic security upgrades. :P
[05:19] <freaky[t]> unop thanks
[05:19] <freaky[t]> ill reboot into linux now
[05:19] <freaky[t]> and see what zim can do ;D
[05:19] <Darkedge> How do I check what commands (Terminal) are provided in a Debian Package?
[05:19] <isiah> i am ssh-ing into a server. Typing firefox & results in "Error: No display specified" I have tried using "-o ForwardX11=yes" to login it just freezes up.
[05:19] <Flannel> Darkedge: Have you already installed it?
[05:19] <blakkheim> isiah: why not just use ssh as a proxy for your local firefox?
[05:20] <mith_> true, so much easier
[05:20] <Darkedge> Flannel: yes
[05:20] <FiReSTaRT> UpgradeOrNot: usually doesn't.. im probably the only one with such luck :P
[05:21] <Flannel> Darkedge: `dpkg -l | grep bin` would likely list everything. (dpkg -l lists all the files in the package)
[05:23] <braintorch> If I run "ps -A" command, "CMD" column is too narrow and cuts programs names. Anybody knows how to fix that? Please?
[05:24] <jonas3> CUPS Server Error....the CUPS scheduler is not running....
[05:25] <jonas3> can someone help me?? really dont have any idea...noob here so sorry
[05:25] <hari_> HEY HI :-)
[05:25] <chu_> hey hari_
[05:26] <hari_> I HAVE THIS PROBLEM:
[05:26] <hari_> After fixing my printer PROBLEM WHEN THE COMMAND TO PRINT CUPS does not print and I get this message after trying to see what the PROBLEM
[05:26] <blakkheim> hari_: is your caps lock key stuck?
[05:27] <sonium> I just rm -R deleted a directory with my whole coding work in it. is there a way to recover this?
[05:27] <chu_> Why would you do something like that.
[05:27] <Darkedge> Flannel: Thanks! :)
[05:27] <blakkheim> lol
[05:27] <valindil89> ad another computer to the ubuntu network! w00t!
[05:28] <jonas3> :-(
[05:28] <isiah> sonium: I would look into shutting off the computer, running a liveCD, and trying to get a data recovery program
[05:28] <meowbuntu> anyone used ubun-student before whats it like
[05:29] <hari_> Page 1 (Scheduler not running?):
[05:29] <hari_> {'cups_connection_failure': False}
[05:29] <hari_> Page 2 (Choose printer):
[05:29] <hari_> {'cups_dests_available': [('HP-Deskjet-D2300-series', None)],
[05:29] <hari_>  'cups_queue_listed': False}
[05:29] <FloodBot1> hari_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <hari_> Page 3 (Local or remote?):
[05:29] <chu_> I thought Ubuntu Tweak was better, meowbuntu
[05:29] <x_> is there a program or terminal code to figure out how hot is cpu?
[05:29] <mith_> hari_: are you not using the hplip drivers?
[05:29] <blakkheim> x_: install lmsensors and run "sensors" once it's setup
[05:30] <Night0wl> is wine the best application of it's kind for ubuntu?
[05:31] <hari_> yeah i'm using this drivers
[05:31] <x_> blakkheim couldn't find package lmsensors
[05:31] <x_> blakkheim i sudo apt-get install lmsensors
[05:32] <jamiejackson> what might be the problem with this kernel package installation error? http://jamiejackson.pastebin.com/f3975c285
[05:32] <stew> i don't believe there is any other appliation of wine's kind
[05:32] <Night0wl> stew: i need something to run just one individual windows program- this is the thing right?
[05:32] <hari_> but i don't  know happened
[05:32] <chuche> Yeah, in that case, this is the thing.
[05:32] <stew> Night0wl: yes
[05:32] <Night0wl> :) thanks
[05:32] <bastid_raZor> x_: acpi -Vf
[05:33] <powertool08> Night0wl: I think cedega is a wine-like program, but its not free.
[05:33] <hari_> you know mith_
[05:33] <hari_> ??
[05:35] <meowbuntu> anyone used ubun-student before whats it like
[05:36] <chu_> meowbuntu: It's basically like Ubuntu Tweak.
[05:37] <x_> bastid_raZor so do i sudo apt-get install acpi ?
[05:37] <bastid_raZor> x_: no, that should be a terminal command
[05:38] <meowbuntu> ok whats better ubun-student or ubuntu tweek
[05:38] <|_ocke> http://www.chilloutzone.to/video/alle-mann-raus-aus-den-federn.html
[05:38] <chu_> meowbuntu: Well, I thought Ubuntu Tweak is a more mature version.
[05:39] <Xaero> so, is 9.10 really unstable, or am I somehow retarded, twice now (once on laptop, second on desktop) it has gotten finnicky with Nvidia graphics drivers, softlocked, and then will not allow me to use the glx module at all after uninstall/reinstall of graphics drivers and reconfiguring in xorg.conf
[05:39] <x_> bastid_raZor i did sudo apt-get install acpi , then i did acpi -Vf it said cooling 0: proccessor 0 of 0
[05:39] <arghh2d2> 9.10 blows, wait for 10.04 lts to upgrade
[05:39] <chu_> nvidia card here, running 9.10, no issues. Retardation is a possibility? :p
[05:39] <arghh2d2> thought everybody knew that by now
[05:40] <arghh2d2> 9.10 is the retard
[05:40] <jonzbcc> .. I have no issues with 9.10
[05:40] <arghh2d2> so what
[05:40] <arghh2d2> you got lucky
[05:40] <bgupta> WOndering if there is an official howto to install KDE in Jaunty, and be able to easily switch back and forth between gnome and kde?
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> x_: i have lm-sensors installed and set up.. that may be the difference.
[05:40] <arghh2d2> not everybody has your hardwared
[05:40] <arghh2d2> tards
[05:40] <Xaero> chu_ running completely stable? no random compiz lag -> video corruption -> soft lock ->reboot into no working x display and tracing it to the nvidia binary being corrupted, and having to reinstall?
[05:40] <jonzbcc> right, me and a ton of other people.
[05:40] <chu_> lol
[05:41] <x_> bastid_raZor how i install lm-sensors
[05:41] <chu_> Xaero: No issues at all fortunately.
[05:41] <Diverdude> In ubuntu, i have to go to places->MyDriveLetter in order to mount the drive. Can i somehow make this happen automatically when i log in instead?
[05:41] <ouyes> bgupta, i dont think so
[05:41] <Xaero> chu_ I'm running a gtx 295, and dual 8600m's and somehow its just acting up consistantly
[05:41] <powertool08> bgupta: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop to install it.
[05:41] <x_> bastid_raZor i did sudo apt-get install lmsensors and its not in there
[05:41] <Xaero> I still havn't been able to get GLX working again after it does this
[05:41] <chu_> I guess I'm pretty light on the eye-candy (I only use this expose thing), but yeah seems to be fine.
[05:41] <powertool08> !kde > powertool08
[05:41] <geev> help me with this error "E: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-26-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[05:41] <dandaman> sorry, whats the command in the terminal to show all your processes and how much processing power they're using?
[05:41] <bgupta> powertool08: thanks!
[05:42] <chuche> You can make them mount automatically.
[05:42] <jamiejackson> what might be the problem with this kernel package installation error? http://jamiejackson.pastebin.com/f3975c285 <= it has apt all gummed up
[05:42] <Voss> Xaero, what nvidia driver?
[05:42] <Xaero> spits out about 10000000 Missing GLX extension messages, even though the glx module is in my xorg.conf ><
[05:42] <NFischer> Whats the difference between "command &" and "command & disown"? it has the same effect as it seems..?
[05:42] <bastid_raZor> x_: lm-sensors
[05:42] <chuche> Download a package in Synaptic called pysdm.
[05:42] <chu_> I'm not entirely sure what I am speaking of, but I heard something about 9.10 "moving" away from the xoeg.conf? I don't know, I just remember some people taking about it perhaps.
[05:42] <powertool08> bgupta: I was wrong, its kubuntu-desktop not kde-desktop
[05:42] <chuche> The program calls itself Storage Device Manager.
[05:42] <Xaero> Voss, I used both the driver reccomended by the "restricted drivers" app and the latest Nvidia card
[05:42] <jonzbcc> dandaman: ps (actually, I like top)
[05:42] <powertool08> !kde > bgupta
[05:42] <Xaero> er Nvidia drivers
[05:42] <Hilikus> is there any setting to start emacs NOT in split mode?
[05:43] <neild> Hi just got a computer with a Intel Celeron E3200 CPU... should I use the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[05:43] <Voss> Xaero, ok which versions are those?
[05:43] <Xaero> neild: no
[05:43] <chuche> Not with a celeron.
[05:43] <powertool08> bgupta: As far as switching, last time I used gdm it had an option at the login screen to change your session.
[05:43] <chuche> Sorry
[05:43] <Xaero> voss: lemme check
[05:43] <x_> bastid_raZor what is the command to run it?
[05:43] <bastid_raZor> x_: you have it installed?
[05:43] <x_> bastid_raZor ya
[05:43] <bastid_raZor> !lm-sensors | x_
[05:44] <bgupta> powertool08: That's what I thought.
[05:44] <Xaero> Voss: 185.xx (doesnt say in restricted-drivers) & not sure about the newer driver that I installed, i deleted the installer after I rolled back to this driver
[05:44] <bastid_raZor> x_: that site can give you much more detailed information.
[05:44] <meowbuntu> neighter ubun-student or ubuntu tweak are in repos
[05:44] <Voss> Xaero, so which one is working?
[05:44] <meowbuntu> ^ or synaptic
[05:44] <neild> Xaero: thanks
[05:44] <powertool08> bgupta: Just a warning, the kubuntu package will install alot of stuff, libraries, programs, etc.
[05:44] <chu_> meowbuntu: Not sure how I got it. Google for ubuntu tweak .deb ?
[05:45] <Xaero> Voss: both of them worked fine, for a while, and eventually it starts to hiccup (GPU less than 60C) and eventually graphics stutter and it soft-locks
[05:45] <bgupta> powertool08: I know, I did it once (what seems like) ages ago with gutsy.. just been awhile.
[05:45] <bgupta> powertool08: thanks again
[05:45] <powertool08> bgupta: no problem
[05:46] <NFischer> Whats the difference between "command &" and "command & disown"? it has the same effect as it seems..?
[05:46] <Xaero> Voss: after rebooting, i get an unusable display error from X, and even after reconfiguring X it doesnt work correctly, but theres an error about loading the Nvidia kernel  module, so I assumed it probably got corrupted somehow, and just purged & reinstalled the driver to get back in to a live X session
[05:46] <Voss> Xaero, what program are you running when it does that?
[05:46] <meowbuntu> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubun-student/ppa does not work in ubuntu 9.10
[05:47] <tcarter> Can anyone tell me why when i use ctrl+alt+f1 and try to login i get an incorrect login message
[05:47] <meowbuntu> ^ im trying to install this http://pastie.org/774552
[05:47] <arghh2d2> tcarter: mispelled something?
[05:48] <arghh2d2> tcarter: caps lock is on?
[05:48] <Xaero> Voss: the four or five times its happened, its been different programs, the only common factor is compiz. Its crashed on gmplayer; Totem; a game via Wine; and while doing some GPU-accelerated folding
[05:48] <tcarter> arghh2d2, nope neither of those
[05:48] <Voss> xaero, then turn off desktop effects
[05:48] <ouyes> when i watch a movie 720p(1280*720) i see two black bar on the top and the bottom of my screen, but my resolution was 1280*800, there should be only 80 pixels black ? what is wrong?
[05:49] <ardchoille> Wait, there's an easier way to add a PPA in Karmic than manually editing sources.list?!
[05:49] <meowbuntu> hello any ideas y these commands wont work
[05:49] <Xaero> Voss: I still don't see how compiz could possibly be causing the issue, its never given me issues with this GPU before... ><
[05:49] <ardchoille> When did that happen?
[05:49] <jamiejackson> How do I debug this apt-get kernel package installation error? http://jamiejackson.pastebin.com/f3975c285 Is there a way to look at the init script of the package, or something?
[05:49] <fata_erro> hi my server is getting hack attempts lots and i would like to stop uneeded services can anyone help? Here is my service list http://pastie.org/774581
[05:49] <Xaero> Voss: I'll try that for a while, however, I still am unable to get my GLX module to load again
[05:49] <Xaero> ><
[05:49] <ouyes> anybody can explain it to me?
[05:49] <meowbuntu> ardchoille, how can i do that
[05:50] <Flynsarmy> Is there an implimentation of pulseaudio for win7? I had a working one for XP but it doesn't seem to work on 7...
[05:50] <ardchoille> meowbuntu: No idea, this is new to me too
[05:50] <edbian> fata_erro: What makes you say you're getting hack attempts?
[05:50] <ouyes> Flynsarmy,  ubuntu channel mat
[05:50] <Flynsarmy> ouyes, figured ubuntu guys would have more of a clue than windows guys
[05:50] <zvacet> meowbuntu : if you added repo then  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 9320B41C  sudo apt-get update
[05:50] <fata_erro> edbian: logs
[05:51] <arghh2d2> fata_erro: paste the logs
[05:51] <ouyes> Flynsarmy,  you are right , ok
[05:51] <neild> Can the desktop version allow you to create and install to a RAID 1 setup?
[05:51] <undecim> fata_erro: You are getting a lot of hits on your SSH server, huh?
[05:51] <edbian> fata_erro: Are you talking about ssh login attempts?
[05:51] <fata_erro> ya /var/log/auth.log
[05:51] <edbian> fata_erro: Check out this neat little package: "denyhosts"
[05:52] <fata_erro> and my site logs
[05:52] <edbian> !denyhosts
[05:52] <fata_erro> ok
[05:52] <fata_erro> thanks
[05:52] <edbian> fata_erro: I use it for denying ssh hackers.  It's great!
[05:52] <meowbuntu> ardchoille, zvacet its ok i had a typo its installing now
[05:53] <fata_erro> i'm getting 4 - 10 diff people a day
[05:53] <ardchoille> meowbuntu: so all you have to do to add a ppa is sudo apt-add ppa?
[05:53] <Hose> join ubuntu.pl
[05:53] <undecim> fata_erro: SSH servers get attacked a lot. I run my ssh server on a non-standard port to prevent this.
[05:53]  * powertool08 seconds the non-standard port idea, coupled with denyhosts
[05:54] <undecim> fata_erro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/InstallingConfiguringTesting#Start%20sshd%20on%20a%20Different%20Listening%20Port
[05:54] <powertool08> fata_erro: And pubkey authentication only. I feel fairly safe between those three.
[05:54] <Xaero> Voss: I just updated to 190.53, and... well, i think they need to change which driver they reccomend as the default for 9.10
[05:54] <meowbuntu> aryes just like in the pastie i sent
[05:55] <Xaero> Voss: the video is smoother than it has been since I installed Karmic
[05:55] <ardchoille> !packages
[05:55] <nightsjammies> Oh good. Finally.
[05:55] <fata_erro> thanks for the tips i going to get denyhosts running
[05:55] <ardchoille> !PPA
[05:56] <powertool08> fata_erro: There's also fail2ban, similar to denyhosts but I've never tried it.
[05:56] <nightsjammies> I got a Microsoft wireless mouse from a pawn shop today, and at first it worked, but now, nothing.
[05:56] <nightsjammies> I know the battery is good. Do I need to install any libs for it to work?
[05:57] <Parabola> no
[05:57] <nightsjammies> Hrmm..
[05:57] <Parabola> hotplug should take care of it
[05:57] <powertool08> fata_erro: I think it comes this way by default, but double check sshd_config for Permit Root = no and Protocol = 2, protocol 1 is weak and well, root shouldn't be logging in.
[05:57] <Parabola> do you have anything else in the room thats wireless?
[05:57] <Parabola> pretty much everything runs at 2.4ghz
[05:58] <Parabola> also, you could try another PC, or at least another USB port
[05:58] <nightsjammies> hotplug?
[05:58] <nightsjammies> No, I don't think so.
[05:58] <nivas> what does mean Time to Live???
[05:58] <ikaro007> hi i have a problem with my laptop toshiba, when i use ubuntu 910, the machine gets very warm and it doesnt happen when i use windows
[05:59] <j03lar50n> so I have two servers (both with small HDD's 30GB). i want to tar compress a folder on one but store the archive on the other. how do i command this via ssh?
[05:59] <j03lar50n> ikaro007 maybe your fan controller isn't recognized in Ubuntu?
[05:59] <powertool08> nivas: Every time a packet goes through a switch or router, its time to live is reduced by one.
[05:59] <Parabola> j03lar50n good call
[05:59] <Parabola> nightsjammies, just try it
[06:00] <Parabola> you bought a mouse at a pawn shop, it may just be broken
[06:00] <nightsjammies> I did just try it.
[06:00] <powertool08> nivas: If this number is too small and the packet hits lots of routers and the ttl hits 0, the packet times out and fails.
[06:00] <nightsjammies> I know. It was only a few bucks.
[06:00] <Parabola> the fact that its wireless doesnt matter
[06:00] <nightsjammies> I tried another port
[06:00] <nightsjammies> Okay.
[06:00] <Parabola> the receiver does that bit :)
[06:00] <Parabola> do you have another computer you can try it on
[06:00] <ikaro007> j03lar50n, what can i do
[06:00] <nivas> powertool08: Thanku
[06:00] <nightsjammies> I just tried to connect using the connect buttons.
[06:00] <nightsjammies> Nope.
[06:00] <ouyes> when i watch a movie 720p(1280*720) i see two black bar on the top and the bottom of my screen, but my resolution was 1280*800, there should be only 80 pixels black ? what is wrong?
[06:01] <Parabola> ouyes lol...
[06:01] <ouyes> Parabola, what? lol what you mean ,
[06:01] <j03lar50n> maybe look into what fan controller/device you have - see if it has support in Ubuntu. Try to obtain that info in Windows via Device Manager or SIW. That's about all I know though sorry
[06:02] <ouyes> laugh out loud?
[06:02] <ouyes> Parabola, laugh out loud?
[06:03] <nightsjammies> what's hotplug?
[06:03] <ouyes> Parabola, what does lol stand for anyway?
[06:03] <powertool08> ouyes: Maybe its playing in another aspect ratio? There's 16:9 and 16:? something else close to 16:9, but different enough for bars.
[06:03] <powertool08> ouyes: laugh out loud.
[06:04] <Flannel> powertool08: 16:10 is the other one
[06:04] <ouyes> Parabola,  why you say this to me?
[06:04] <Junkyard> pidgin ubuntu packages not working 404 error!!!
[06:04] <powertool08> Flannel: Thanks, I knew it was really close.
[06:04] <bullgard> Two Ubuntu 9.10 computers. On both says Update Manager: "Your system is up-to-date." Still, one presents a 'man update-grub' of 2001, the other of 2009. Why is the former not up-to-date?
[06:04] <Junkyard> Not sure why... Is there any alternate way to install pidgin
[06:04] <nightsjammies> trinity
[06:04] <Flannel> bullgard: Are you sure they're both 9.10? and the old one isn't 8.04?
[06:04] <j03lar50n> I have two (remote) servers at work. Both have small HDD's, 30GB, and I can't fit the tar archive of the folder I want to compress on the server it's on. What command can I pass through SSH to archive the folder from one server to the other?
[06:04] <ouyes> Parabola,  are you a robot?
[06:05] <edbian_> Junkyard, Go to their website and get the source code or a .deb
[06:05] <brishu> Junkyard, yes there is, you can get the .deb from http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[06:06] <NFischer> ive just installed nmap manually.. it works, but i cant deinstall it via dpkg -r it says, its not installed Oo
[06:06] <meowbuntu> hi i got this error http://imagebin.ca/view/YvZ8gkY.html when installoing the .deb package from http://code.google.com/p/ailurus/downloads/list
[06:06] <sleepy-cat> how to create a new user(administrator) from the terminal
[06:06] <sleepy-cat> i tried with useradd -D user1
[06:06] <sleepy-cat> did not work
[06:07] <ikaro007> j03lar50n, im looking trough web and day about im sensors, i installed allready and say /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: No sensors found! (modprobe sensor modules?
[06:07] <powertool08> NFischer: If you install from source it won't show up in apt unless you used checkinstall
[06:07] <pallu> how can i add a nested X session on my desktop?
[06:07] <NFischer> powertool08, shoots.. how can i deinstall then?
[06:07] <Flannel> sleepy-cat: use adduser instead.  And it's easier to just use a two step process.  One to create the user (adduser username) then the next to add them to the admin group (adduser username admin)
[06:07] <pallu> hello every one
[06:07] <powertool08> NFischer: You have to uninstall with 'make uninstall' in the same directory you ran 'make install'
[06:08] <NFischer> i see
[06:08] <meowbuntu> i am stuck on that
[06:08] <NFischer> thx
[06:08] <sleepy-cat> Flannel,  that will make him the admin ?
[06:08] <powertool08> You're welcome
[06:08] <meowbuntu> a.deb package should just install right
[06:08] <Flannel> sleepy-cat: That'll give them access to sudo, yes.
[06:08] <sleepy-cat> cool
[06:08] <sleepy-cat> thanks Flannel
[06:08] <Richturd> hey gayasses
[06:08] <Richturd> I have a question
[06:08] <Flannel> sleepy-cat: If you're in the admin group, you can use sudo (by default, you can change this, etc, etc)
[06:08] <Flannel> Richturd: Please watch your tone
[06:08] <pallu> i don't want to have to log out to open a new session i don't know what  the progam that im missing is called so can some one point me in the right direction?
[06:08] <Richturd> Ok
[06:10] <gregorio> hey
[06:12] <Diverdude> In ubuntu, i have to go to places->MyDriveLetter in order to mount the drive. Can i somehow make this happen automatically when i log in instead?
[06:12] <punto> is there an alternative to update-manager? it doesn't work (says it can't find pygtk)
[06:12] <Flannel> punto: for day-to-day updates?
[06:12] <nightsjammies> Okay, so no ideas? Maybe something else I need to install?
[06:12] <Flannel> punto: or for moving from one version of Ubuntu to the next?
[06:13] <arghh2d2> ExxonValdeez: Diverdude tried altering /etc/fstab?
[06:13] <nightsjammies> Oh, and does anyone in here use devede?
[06:13] <arghh2d2> Diverdude tried altering /etc/fstab?
[06:13] <Flannel> Diverdude: Adding it to your fstab will work, yeah.
[06:13] <arghh2d2> sorry ExxonValdeez
[06:13] <Diverdude> AHH OK
[06:14] <meowbuntu> how do i get ubuntu tweek
[06:14] <elitecoder> Is there a problem with pppd in ubuntu 9.10?
[06:14] <elitecoder> Trying to get pptp working for a vpn
[06:15] <elitecoder> and god it's a pain
[06:15] <SillyTalker> erm...
[06:15] <alloosh> hi, whats up with quanta and sftp? after updating to 9.10 its not letting me connect? this is really not good
[06:15] <elitecoder> I keep getting GRE: Bad checksum from pppd.
[06:15] <SillyTalker> why in gadsname is there no link to the 64bit version on the website???
[06:15] <Flannel> SillyTalker: There is, on the download page
[06:15] <SillyTalker> i need to google myself the latest 64bit version...
[06:16] <SillyTalker> Flannel: where did they hide it?
[06:16] <Flannel> SillyTalker: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download  radio buttons on the right hand side select your version
[06:16] <eminor> hello :)
[06:16] <Flannel> SillyTalker: Also, every mirror has them along side the 32bit ones (if you just jump to a mirror file list instead)
[06:16] <SillyTalker> Flannel: seriously there is no radiobutton, only a dropdown to select the server
[06:17] <rww> SillyTalker: Click "Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows"
[06:17] <Flannel> SillyTalker: Under that, there's a radio button for ... hmm, ok, apparently with javascript enabled it hides it by default.  hit "alternative download options" and then it shows up
[06:18] <SillyTalker> rww: aaaaaaaaaah :) i didnt notice that, they should make that a bit clearer imho
[06:18] <SillyTalker> Flannel: thanx i found it, rww was correct
[06:19] <nivas> Tomcat package download???
[06:19] <Raj> i have a iso file i need to burn it to CD in Ubuntu..  ?
[06:19] <Flannel> Raj: Right click, "burn to disc"
[06:19] <edbian_> Raj, Use brasero :)
[06:19] <SillyTalker> where can i get info on how to create a .deb according to the rules?
[06:19] <Flannel> SillyTalker: #ubuntu-motu has info in the topic
[06:20] <meowbuntu> is it a good idea to use package cleaner on ubuntu tweek
[06:20] <SillyTalker> Flannel: ok thanx again
[06:20] <nightsjammies> Hey, I've got a question. I want to install linux on an old gateway tower. I'm not sure how old it is, but it has a sticker on it thsat says something about windows NT. Which ditro should I use?
[06:20] <edbian_> nightsjammies, Try the Ubuntu live CD and see how it runs.  If Ubuntu is too much for it look at DSL or Puppy ;)
[06:20] <kinja-sheep> nightsjammies: Make it a server. :)
[06:20] <edbian_> DSL = Damn Small Linux
[06:21] <nulled> Wine is completely uniqiue, so ya
[06:21] <nightsjammies> Server?
[06:21] <nightsjammies> What is the closest to Ubunut?
[06:21] <nightsjammies> *Ubuntu?
[06:22] <edbian_> nightsjammies, DSL and Puppy are both pretty equally far from Ubuntu in my opinion.  If you're looking for a lightweight ubuntu I suggest xbuntu
[06:22] <nightsjammies> xbuntu?
[06:22] <nightsjammies> Okay.
[06:23] <edbian_> nightsjammies, Yep :)  Ubuntu with xfce
[06:23] <rww> nightsjammies: Ubuntu Server is the closest server distribution to Ubuntu :\
[06:23] <edbian_> nightsjammies, Ubuntu Server is Ubuntu ;)
[06:23] <nightsjammies> I've never used a server before.
[06:23] <nightsjammies> And okay.
[06:23] <kinja-sheep> edbian_: Xubuntu is not lightweight IMO. :<
[06:24] <edbian_> kinja-sheep, It's more lightweight than gnome isn't it?
[06:24] <nightsjammies> Should I go with 9.10?
[06:24] <rww> edbian_: not particularly
[06:24] <Raj> how can i verfiy a iso file ?
[06:24] <rww> !md5 | Raj
[06:25] <kinja-sheep> edbian_: XFCE, sure. Xubuntu, no. :P
[06:26] <DrManhattan> my ubuntu install doesn't recognize my ide cdrom - intel g31 chipset with an sata HD - is there a solution for this yet?
[06:26] <DrManhattan> its a dual boot with win7 and win7 has no issues with the cdrom
[06:26] <nightsjammies> Shoot, still no luck with mouse.
[06:27] <kinja-sheep> DrManhattan: You got more than one CDROM?
[06:27] <DrManhattan> No.
[06:27] <DrManhattan> there's nothing physically wrong with the drive.
[06:28] <kinja-sheep> DrManhattan: Same thing for me. I wasn't able to install it using first drive but I could make do with second drive. Weird issue, I know.
[06:28] <DrManhattan> I got it installed using a usb drive
[06:28] <DrManhattan> but I would like to enable the drive in my OS
[06:29] <Dravekx> how do I uninstall something Ive installed?
[06:29] <arghh2d2> win7 is a little b!tch that likes to mess with linux installs
[06:29] <infid> i created /home/infid/bin and put a program in it but it's not being read by my path. any idea why?
[06:29] <edbian_> Dravekx, There are mutliple options.  Would you like to know the GUI way or the CLI way?
[06:29] <infid> i know i can add it to my PATH but shouldnt linux do this by deafult
[06:30] <powertool08> infid: You have to adjust your $PATH variable, or you could symlink it to the /usr/bin folder.
[06:30] <Dravekx> edbian_, via ssh... i installed using sudo apt-get install... hwodo I uninstall?
[06:30] <ikarus__> .
[06:30] <edbian_> Dravekx, sudo apt-get remove <packageName>
[06:30] <Flannel> Dravekx: sudo apt-get remove --purge ...
[06:30] <edbian_> Dravekx, sudo apt-get purge <package> will remove the configuration files as well
[06:31] <edbian_> Dravekx, Configuration files are usually found in /etc
[06:31] <Dravekx> k. :)
[06:32] <edbian_> Dravekx, No problem
[06:32] <powertool08> Speaking of /etc, whats the best way to backup those config files? /home is easy, I want to keep everything in it. However I can do without a large number of the files in /etc.
[06:32] <Flannel> powertool08: Did you manually change anything in /etc?
[06:33] <maco> powertool08: i usually backup all of /etc anyway. its only a couple mb total
[06:33] <edbian_> powertool08, They might be a large number of files in /etc but the actual size on the disc is probably relatively small
[06:33] <powertool08> Flannel: A few things. Enough that I don't want to list them for backup one at a time unless I have to, but not enough to grab the whole directory.
[06:33] <kinja-sheep> powertool08: 10MB at most.
[06:33] <maco> powertool08: mine is 18mb
[06:33] <infid> powertool08: ubuntu's ~/.profile already has code that sets PATH to include $HOME/bin if it exists, yet it doesnt seem to work for me
[06:33] <friend1> hi
[06:34] <infid> powertool08: nm i have to resource it
[06:34] <maco> powertool08: (i also have a lot of stuff installed)
[06:34] <Flannel> powertool08: If they're just minor changes, it might just be worth it to note the changes in a text file in your home.  And yes, as other people have said, etc is rather small.
[06:34] <powertool08> maco: This is true, I was just thinking, lots of files, more space taken than necessary.
[06:35] <arghh2d2> powertool08: /var/cache/
[06:36] <powertool08> arghh2d2: What about it?
[06:38] <arghh2d2> powertool08: i thought you were looking for directories taking up unnessecary space
[06:38] <bullgard> Flannel: On both computers: '~$ lsb_release -a; No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu; Description: Ubuntu 9.10; Release: 9.10; Codename: karmic'
[06:39] <powertool08> arghh2d2: No, just complaining about the lack of efficiency in backing up all of /etc for just a few files. Then I was reminded of how little /etc is. :)
[06:40] <arghh2d2> yeah, /etc is mostly made up of little text files
[06:41] <Dextronaught> ppl awake? I need some help on something really easy.
[06:41] <powertool08> arghh2d2: Yep, not sure why that didn't occur to me. I guess I just figured why backup the stuff I don't want to restore.
[06:42] <Flannel> bullgard: Alright, can you pastebin the output (of the machine with old grub man page) of the following: uname -a && apt-cache policy grub libc6
[06:42] <powertool08> Dextronaught: We'll be the judge of that :p
[06:42] <Dextronaught> well
[06:42] <Dextronaught> I need to connect to my vpn
[06:42] <Dextronaught> I'm on ubuntu
[06:42] <Dextronaught> it's not an option to add...?
[06:43] <Dextronaught> like... top-right, I click configure VPNs or w/e
[06:43] <Dextronaught> and... the Add tab is grey
[06:43] <Dextronaught> I just installed ubuntu today, am I missing some drivers?
[06:43] <powertool08> Dextronaught: Maybe a vpn client isn't installed?
[06:43] <Dextronaught> know any?
[06:43] <Dextronaught> like, good names
[06:44] <powertool08> Dextronaught: I used a command line one, vpnc IIRC.
[06:44] <Seveas> Dextronaught, network-manager-openvpn and network-manager-vpnc for openvpn resp. cisco vpn
[06:44] <arghh2d2> powertool08: i have two 6.5 gb partitions for /  i just back everything up except for /home
[06:44] <Dextronaught> ok, 1 second, and ty btw
[06:45] <Seveas> Dextronaught, if you have a different vpn (juniper crap for example), you're out of luck
[06:45] <powertool08> arghh2d2: Except home? All your personal files on a different file server or something? Or do you just not care if you lose them?
[06:46] <jackson> is there a way to install multiple operating systems from a single flash drive?
[06:47] <Dextronaught> uhh, Seveas, I pay for one from ipredator, those guys from piratebay
[06:47] <Awesome3000> !anything
[06:47] <meowbuntu> is it a good idea to use package cleaner on ubuntu tweek
[06:47] <asdd> how do i see all the hidden folders ? '." ?
[06:47] <jackson> install / boot
[06:47] <Dextronaught> umm, Idk what you mean by network-manager
[06:47] <Dextronaught> where's that?
[06:47] <kinja-sheep> asdd: CTRL + H in nautilus
[06:47] <arghh2d2> powertool08: /home is on a seperate partition so the only way i'll lose it is if the harddrive physically dies
[06:47] <kinja-sheep> jackson: http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB
[06:48] <powertool08> arghh2d2: Ok, hope your drive doesn't die then.
[06:48] <Seveas> Dextronaught, looks like pptp. Better google a howto for that. I haven't seen it before but it's definitely not handled by the plugins I mentioned.
[06:48] <powertool08> asdd: ls -a in a terminal
[06:48] <c_nick> i want to connect to a remote computer.. i need to figure out the host name there.. how should i do that
[06:49] <Dravekx> anyone using joomla?
[06:49] <maco> c_nick: ask its owner?
[06:49] <kinja-sheep> c_nick: Check out the IP in web router configuration
[06:49] <Dextronaught> ok, thanks Seveas
[06:49] <jackson> kinja-sheep, does this only apply to linux distros?  can you boot a windows iso also?
[06:49] <c_nick> no i dont want to connect using the ip address
[06:49] <punto> Flannel: for moving to a new version of ubuntu (kubuntu actually)
[06:49] <Seveas> Q: Which protocols may I use to connect to Ipredator? Does protocols like OpenVPN or SSL connections work?
[06:49] <Seveas> A: Currentley we only offer connections using the PPTP protocol. However, we are looking into offering additional protocols in the future.
[06:49] <c_nick> i am trying to figure out my own host name :D
[06:50] <Seveas> Dextronaught, so it's pptp. there's network-manager-pptp I believe. It may work
[06:50] <kinja-sheep> jackson: I don't know. I don't use Windows. (and I'm not sure if you can boot Windows off USB.) Ask ##windows for that one.
[06:50] <maco> c_nick: type "hostname" on that computer then
[06:50] <c_nick> i can connect to myself using<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but i would like to have the host name too
[06:50] <firefly2442> I need help forcefully removing a package: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d42194fee
[06:50] <Awesome3000> is there any reason to use the latest kernal
[06:50] <bullgard> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/f3b062d51
[06:50] <maco> Awesome3000: if you know that some hardware you need is supported in it but not in whatever kernel you're currently using, yes
[06:51] <firefly2442> I've tried some of these options already : http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/48910
[06:51] <chu_> Awesome3000: More likely to support newer hardware in some cases? For instance, in newer kernels there's a lot of interest in wireless and acpi improvements, this isn't in older versions so much
[06:51] <powertool08> c_nick: You can use 'whois ipaddy' to find out the dns name of it.
[06:51] <Awesome3000> maco  actually the latest kernal is causing a driver error
[06:51] <git__> acpi still an issue in Ubuntu 9.1
[06:51] <maco> Awesome3000: ooh fun. file bug?
[06:51] <c_nick> thanks maco
[06:52] <maco> c_nick: np
[06:53] <root> hi all
[06:54] <asdd> where is the XORG file located ?
[06:54] <Awesome3000> root Hi
[06:54] <powertool08> asdd: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:54] <maco> asdd: by default there is no xorg.conf, however if you wish to create one, put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:55] <Dextronaught> Seveas, pardon my ignorance, where can I find network-manager-pptp? synaptic says it's already installed, but I cain't find it
[06:55] <maco> Dextronaught: it should have enabled more of the buttons inside network manager
[06:55] <maco> Dextronaught: its not a separate program
[06:55] <Dextronaught> o ok
[06:55] <a|3x> i have compiled the kernel but the initrd image is 46 mb and doesn't fit on my boot partitions, any ideas what i could do?
[06:55] <Dextronaught> yay :D
[06:55] <Spectral_> Hi, i have recently done a new install of the latest ubuntu and it won't display the desktop. I can switch to consoles using cntrl+alt+# but the desktop (cntrl+alt_f7) gives me an "out of range" message.
[06:56] <Dextronaught> thanks guys
[06:56] <Awesome3000> Spectral_  try startx  on another terminal
[06:56] <Spectral_> anyone got any ideas of how i can fix?
[06:56] <maco> Spectral_: i think you need to make an /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the right settings for your monitor
[06:57] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm having a problem with my laptop's webcam. Can anyone help?
[06:57] <Spectral_> ok, what is the best way to go about this? I'm fairly new to linux still
[06:57] <maco> i dont know :-/ i havent had to worry about xorg.conf much in the last 2 years
[06:57] <ardchoille> !monitor
[06:57] <maco> !xorg
[06:58] <ardchoille> Spectral_: there's a good page right there ^^
[06:58] <Spectral_> awesome thankss for that guys!
[06:58] <Awesome3000> !webcam
[06:58] <Spectral_> i'll have a read and see if i can fix my issues
[06:58] <SillyTalker> "VirtualBox can't operate in VMX root mode. Please disable the KVM kernel extension, recompile your kernel and reboot (VERR_VMX_IN_VMX_ROOT_MODE). "
[06:58] <SillyTalker> is that ubuntu related?
[06:58] <ThatGuyOverThere> Alright, let me be more specific.
[06:58] <maco> i need to stop buying working hardware. i'm getting really out of practice.  or i need to try gentoo...
[06:58] <SillyTalker> i didnt install kvm or anything
[06:59] <ardchoille> maco: Same here
[06:59] <ThatGuyOverThere> I think I have a problem with the driver.
[06:59] <ThatGuyOverThere> I can get video from my webcam but it's upside down.
[06:59] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: oh oh just a second
[06:59] <maco> i have something about that in my email, lemme find it
[06:59] <ardchoille> I installed Karmic yesterday and my biggest problem has been deciding which gtk theme to use
[07:00] <SillyTalker> ThatGuyOverThere: you can reverse it realtime with a cam program
[07:00] <kaushal> hi
[07:00] <kaushal> I am facing the issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/355372/
[07:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> Hmm...
[07:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> Do you mean something that's specific to the program I'm using?
[07:00] <SillyTalker> ThatGuyOverThere: sudo apt-get install cheese
[07:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> Yeah, that doesn't help.
[07:01] <ThatGuyOverThere> I know I can just turn the upside down effect on, but that doesn't help me for video chat.
[07:01] <ThatGuyOverThere> Thank you, though.
[07:01] <Awesome3000> kaushal  first fix the can't resolve host error
[07:01] <SillyTalker> ThatGuyOverThere: maybe with a good client lol
[07:02] <kaushal> Awesome3000: sure
[07:02] <ThatGuyOverThere> Well, as far as I can tell, there are no good video IM clients for Ubuntu. :(
[07:02] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: what happens if you do this "echo 0 >/sys/class/video4linux/video0/vflip" ?
[07:02] <ThatGuyOverThere> Actually, I like TokBox for Adobe Air, but it doesn't give me the option to flip the video, obviously.
[07:02] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: if nothing, try 1 instead of -
[07:02] <ThatGuyOverThere> Maco: I'll give it a try.
[07:02] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: instead of 0, i mean
[07:03] <ThatGuyOverThere> bash: /sys/class/video4linux/video0/vflip: No such file or directory
[07:03] <SillyTalker> maco: cooooool i didnt know that was possible
[07:03] <powertool08> SillyTalker: Maybe its this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose/+bug/292588
[07:03] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: whats under /sys/class/video4linux/ ?
[07:03] <ThatGuyOverThere> Maco: replace both the 0's, or just in video0?
[07:03] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: the one you're echoing
[07:03] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: but if vflip doesnt exist we need to find the right path to it
[07:04] <ThatGuyOverThere> Pretend I don't really know the command line that well. :)
[07:04] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: ls /sys/class/video4linux/
[07:04] <ThatGuyOverThere> A'ight.
[07:04] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: does it have a video0 ?
[07:04] <ThatGuyOverThere> Yes.
[07:05] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: Now what?
[07:05] <SillyTalker> powertool08: yep, i was asking at #vbox too and they told me the same solution
[07:05] <SillyTalker> powertool08: thanx though
[07:05] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: ls /sys/class/video4linux/video0
[07:06] <powertool08> SillyTalker: np
[07:06] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: dev  device  index  name  power  subsystem  uevent
[07:06] <ThatGuyOverThere> I feel like those are supposed to be column headers...?
[07:06] <ThatGuyOverThere> There's nothing under them.
[07:06] <co> cwe_-cute
[07:06] <SillyTalker> nice no need to even reboot
[07:07] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: no, theyre not column headers. theyre a list of files and folders
[07:07] <ThatGuyOverThere> Okay.
[07:07] <nick[0]> does anyone know the name of that program that forks to background, and then matches new windows to rules, for the purpose of window resizing, location, etc...?  (I can't find it in my bookmarks, nor on google)
[07:07] <powertool08> Any midnight commander users? how do I switch between left/right columns?
[07:08] <Spectral_> !fqdn
[07:08] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: So I'm assuming the problem is there's no directory "vflip" in there which has the fix that I need?
[07:09] <nick[0]> powertool08: http://www.givemefish.com/ArticlesAndBook/CheatSheets/GiveMeFish_CheatSheet_mc.php
[07:09] <powertool08> nick[0]: Thanks
[07:09] <eminor> nick[0]: devilspie?
[07:09] <Spectral_> ok guys, big problem. When i boot from a fresh install i get: "Kernal Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0). However if i use the 'older' option on grub it does work. Whats the deal?
[07:09] <Spectral_> *Kernel
[07:10] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: im seeing other people hitting its nonexistence too. hang on, im looking
[07:10] <nick[0]> eminor: yes, that's the one!  Thank you very much.
[07:10] <ThatGuyOverThere> A'ight.
[07:11] <hateball> nick[0]: devilspie does not work with compiz tho, just a heads up
[07:11] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: that it doesnt autoflip the picture is a missing feature in the driver (my webcam flips when i rotate it, as it should), so you can file a bug on that, but... im sure there should be a way to set it on the fly
[07:11] <eminor> nick[0]: np
[07:11] <Jordan_U> nick[0]: devispie?
[07:11] <Jordan_U> nick[0]: *devilspie
[07:12] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: :(
[07:12] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: hmm ok lets try this. "lsmod | grep gspca" whats that give?
[07:12] <elvis321> hi, does ubuntu provide any hotspot server software?
[07:12] <nick[0]> Jordan_U: burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie/
[07:12] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: No output.
[07:13] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: "lsmod | grep videodev" then
[07:13] <Jordan_U> nick[0]: Sorry, I was answering your question, I didn't see that someone else already had :)
[07:13] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: videodev               36736  1 uvcvideo
[07:13] <docmax> hello, since some weeks standby on my laptop is working only sometimes. how can i fix it? the screen goes black, but the laptop doesent standy...
[07:13] <ThatGuyOverThere> v4l1_compat            14496  2 uvcvideo,videodev
[07:13] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: ah ok thanks
[07:14] <sangho_Geek2> i have a question about cron
[07:14] <sangho_Geek2> i fixed cron config by crontab -e
[07:14] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: knowing what driver you're using helps ;)
[07:14] <sangho_Geek2> 0 2 * * * su - root -c /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -u root -p'wldhxpr##' -e "PURGE MASTER LOGS BEFORE DATE_SUB(CURRENT_DATE, INTERVAL 7 DAY)"
[07:14] <sangho_Geek2> that password is test
[07:14] <hateball> !info devilspie | nick[0]
[07:14] <sangho_Geek2> is it work well?
[07:14] <nick[0]> Jordan_U: oh, np ;-)  I wonder if I'm going to be able to use it to manipulate Citrix-created windows (which aren't Twinview aware...hence why I'd like to use devilspie to try to hack around it)
[07:14] <hateball> nick[0]: no reason to download/compile if it's in the repos already :)
[07:15] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: Hey, man, I don't even know how to figure out what driver I'm using in Windows, and I've been using that for years. :)
[07:15] <ThatGuyOverThere> Probably why I hate computers so much at times.
[07:15] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: its uvcvideo. that was the point of that command
[07:15] <ThatGuyOverThere> 'Kay.
[07:15] <ThatGuyOverThere> Good to know.
[07:16] <skyl> what's the absolute best sound card for linux at any price? (sry for the opinion question, but let's get down to business)
[07:16] <meowbuntu> hi how do i find the uuid of /dev/sda6
[07:17] <hateball> !hcl | skyl
[07:17] <geirha> meowbuntu: sudo blkid /dev/sda6
[07:17] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: try "sudo modprobe -r uvcvideo" then "sudo modprobe uvcvideo vflip=1"
[07:17] <docmax> hello, since some weeks standby on my laptop is working only sometimes. how can i fix it? the screen goes black, but the laptop doesent standy...
[07:18] <powertool08> skyl: I have an Sound Blaster Audigy ZS 2 and I'm happy with it, its always been easy to setup (disabling the onboard sound was the hardest part) but I only have a 2.1 speaker system so I can't vouch for the other channels working or not.
[07:18] <ThatGuyOverThere> FATAL: Error inserting uvcvideo (/lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/uvc/uvcvideo.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[07:19] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: Oh dear.
[07:19] <ThatGuyOverThere> My camera is no longer detected.
[07:19] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: dont worry
[07:19] <nick[0]> skyl: depends what you want to use it for...games, surround sound, upgradable opamps, for headphones?  for speakers?  spdif out?
[07:19] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: yes, because "modprobe -r" is unload the driver and then we were tyring to reload it with vflip=1
[07:19] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: if you just "sudo modprobe uvcvideo" itll be back to normal
[07:19] <ThatGuyOverThere> Oh. Okay.
[07:20] <nick[0]> skyl: recording?  low latency?  cleanest sound possible?
[07:20] <skyl> nick[0], synthesis and recording with JACK mostly, right
[07:20] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: *pout* you might just be in "file a bug" mode, i'm sorry
[07:20] <ThatGuyOverThere> :(
[07:20] <bullgard> Where to set the environment variable PAGER?
[07:20] <skyl> I've got it pretty well working with the onboard sound but I suspect it could be better
[07:21] <Jordan_U> bullgard: .profile
[07:21] <nick[0]> skyl: so you just need a card to monitor your synthesis, or do you need to use it to record?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> bullgard: Or, for system wide, use update-alternatives
[07:21] <skyl> nick[0], yeah, record, playback and record, mulitrack, ardour, jack, jack-rack, LADSPA, synthesizers
[07:22] <ThatGuyOverThere> I found a guide earlier that might help, but I didn't really understand the instructions.
[07:22] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: link?
[07:22] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=838210
[07:22] <skyl> running xlr + 1/4 inch would be a bonus
[07:22] <Wyt> can anyone help me with activating the "broadcom b43 wireless driver"?
[07:23] <nick[0]> skyl: does it need a midi interface?
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Wyt: What happens when you try?
[07:23] <ThatGuyOverThere> It's not very recent, but I was looking for solutions and it seems a lot of people who have Asus notebooks referred back to this guide.
[07:23] <skyl> nick[0], midi is good but I have a little usb thing that works really fine for that
[07:23] <Wyt> it just says "downloading and installing" but nothing happens
[07:23] <Wyt> it still says its not activated
[07:23] <nick[0]> skyl: awesome.  that makes it easier
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Wyt: Are you connected to the internet ( via ethernet ) ?
[07:24] <Wyt> no
[07:24] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: yeah i came across that too and winced
[07:24] <Wyt> do i need to be
[07:24] <Wyt> ?
[07:24] <Jordan_U> Wyt: Yes unfortunately ( for legal reasons )
[07:24] <cUte> u....
[07:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: ?
[07:24] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: it involves patching and recompiling a kernel module....so it'd need to be redone after every kernel update :-/
[07:25] <Wyt> for legal reasons?
[07:25] <ThatGuyOverThere> maco: That would be thoroughly unpleasant.
[07:25] <nick[0]> skyl: this is what my friend and I use -> http://www.m-audio.ca/products/en_ca/Delta44.html  ,which we found on ebay (wicked deal)  if you need XLR, the 192 or the 2496 might be more appropriate
[07:25] <maco> Wyt: yes
[07:25] <maco> ThatGuyOverThere: yeah...
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Wyt: Broadcom won't allow Ubuntu to distribute the firmware needed for he b43 driver to work ( the driver itself is already installed )
[07:25] <Wyt> fair enough, so you're saying if i hook it up to a wired connection it should be able to download and install/activate the driver on its own?
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Wyt: Yes
[07:26] <Wyt> ooo gotcha
[07:26] <Wyt> cool thanks man
[07:26] <bastid_raZor> Jordan_U: where is that disclaimer located?
[07:27] <nick[0]> skyl: if you need help figuring out the million features of these card's mixers, subscribe to one of the ubuntu studio mailing lists
[07:27] <skyl> nick[0], cool, thanks, that makes 2/2 for maudio
[07:28] <skyl> so I guess that is the family; any suggestions about the pro/cons of pci vs usb vs .. whatever else there is?
[07:28] <nick[0]> skyl: they're less hassle than the alternatives ;-)  (part of my definition of "best")
[07:28] <skyl> usb?
[07:29] <skyl> oh, yeah maudio
[07:29] <bullgard> Jordan_U: '~$ update-alternatives --display PAGER; update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for PAGER.' --  '~$ cat .profile | grep PAGER' does not produce output.
[07:30] <skyl> yeah, def don't want hassle, I'm throwing-away/giving-away/selling a nice echo layla that worked okay on linux a couple of years ago but since support has been dropped and recompiling alsa and whatnot burned me a couple of weeks ago
[07:30] <nick[0]> skyl: for serious audio production, don't use usb for anymore more than a monitor.  Some people say it's not even good enough for that.  This said, external electronics mean that there's less EMI interference
[07:30] <Jordan_U> bullgard: Lower case for update-alternatives, and if you don't set $PAGER explicitly in .profile it uses the version set in update-alternatives
[07:31] <Jordan_U> bullgard: So it's not there by default, you have to add "export PAGER=foo" yourself ( in ~/.profile )
[07:31] <skyl> nick[0], but the firewire/pci/etc stuff works nearly as hassle free on linux?
[07:31] <nick[0]> skyl: I hate it when that happens...
[07:33] <Jordan_U> bastid_raZor: "This firmware is copyrighted by Broadcom and it must be extracted from Broadcom's proprietary drivers. To get such firmware on your system, you must download the driver from a legal distribution point, as noted below." http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[07:33] <cUte> ah
[07:33] <cUte> ku bth tmen
[07:33] <bastid_raZor> Jordan_U: thank you.
[07:33] <Jordan_U> bastid_raZor: np
[07:33] <nick[0]> skyl: the friend I set up with the m-audio 44 and ubuntu studio had never used linux before, and figured it out with a bit of googling and mailing list use (he's a guitaristist, not someone with extensive sysadmin/config experience)
[07:35] <nick[0]> skyl: this is Studio 8.04LTS 32bit though...it's worth finding out of anything newer causes issues, or if there are any weird 64bit driver bug (google)
[07:36] <bullgard> Jordan_U: Excellent! lower case was the stumbling block. --  Thank you.
[07:36] <Jordan_U> bullgard: np
[07:37] <skyl> yeah, I think the next LTS is going to be amazing, 9.10 is the best yet for jack and general audio imo; it is pretty good with the onboard sound
[07:38] <sjahed> #mono
[07:40] <ardchoille> Is there any way to change the gdm theme in Karmic? I don't see a /usr/share/gdm/themes dir like there was in Jaunty
[07:41] <Awesome3000> Can package manager download multi files in parallel?
[07:41] <Polysics> hello
[07:41] <nick[0]> skyl: I'm definitely looking forward to it, and hope to settle down and use it until the LTS after it.  ('been chasing the in-between releases for the improving-though-sometimes-temporary-buggy-regresion laptop support)
[07:41] <Awesome3000> !Hi
[07:41] <Polysics> frivolous question: when i tried Kubuntu, i liked the Twitter client desklet. Is there anything like that for Gnome?
[07:42] <Awesome3000> Polysics  You might be able to download the kde one it should work on gnome
[07:42] <Awesome3000> Polysics  if you know what it is called
[07:42] <AxD09> I think you can install new themes by dragging the archive into the Appearance window's Theme tab
[07:43] <Polysics> i will have to go and look at that :-)
[07:43] <kritzi> ardchoille, http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[07:43] <c_nick> i have got 7 files in my pendrive.. i want to delete 4 so is there a cmd which would bypass the other
[07:43] <ardchoille> kritzi: Thanks
[07:43] <Awesome3000> Polysics  was it the  KDE Micro-Blogging Client
[07:44] <nick[0]> Polysics: there might be a gdesklet or cairo-dock twitter...then there's gwibber, and twitux, neither which I've used
[07:44] <Polysics> Awesome3000, yes, that was it
[07:44] <Awesome3000> In synaptic there are 21 packages when I shearch for Twitter
[07:44] <Awesome3000> Polysics  You should be able to run it under gnome
[07:45] <kritzi> ardchoille, if you also want to change the splash screen, you have to modify the images in /usr/share/images/xsplash
[07:46] <nick[0]> ardchoille: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME#Configure
[07:47] <maximo_> am damn slept
[07:47] <maximo_> bye
[07:47]  * nick[0] purged the Cylon xsplash
[07:48] <chilli0> Hello Ive installed ushare but the webinter face gets This Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:49200.
[07:48] <chilli0> I have enabled it
[07:49] <kitche> you sure that is its port that is a very high port number
[07:49] <ardchoille> kritzi , nick[0] I got it, I just wnated to remove the user list from the gdm screen and that was easy, no log out required
[07:49] <chilli0> kitche,  Thats the defult
[07:50] <cjae> ok I am using calibre to convert pdfs for my sony reader, it know lrf it the sony format, but I seems to be scrambling some of the paragraphs
[07:50] <cjae> epub too
[07:50] <chilli0> kitche,  I changet it to 200 and same thing
[07:51] <cjae> but the pdf's are ok in okular and such
[07:52] <cjae> !calibre
[07:54] <cjae> anyone know of a good channel to ask my question
[07:55] <marius> sal
[07:56] <Guest42374> ma poate ajuta careva?
[07:57] <powertool08> ardchoille: How did you check that the user list was removed without logging out?
[07:57] <c_nick> how can i delete everything off my pendrive except one file
[07:58] <Awesome3000> c_nick  copy the file you want to keep somewhere else  then delet every thing and copy the file back
[07:58] <ardchoille> powertool08: I haven't logged out yet, I simply disabled the user list for the gdm screen
[07:59] <powertool08> ardchoille: Ok, I see, just trusting the command did its job.
[07:59] <c_nick> how to delete everything
[07:59] <ardchoille> powertool08: I did it from the gconf-editor
[08:00] <powertool08> ardchoille: Oh, I decided to ditch the list too, I followed the terminal command using gconftool in the link somebody sent you earlier.
[08:01] <ouyes> powertool08,  you are always online, what do you do for a living ?
[08:01] <powertool08> ouyes: I'm unemployed at the moment.
[08:01] <johnKeynes> hi. when i am in a wlan i use vpn. i have got vodafone mobile connect, too. but when i am online with the vodafone 3g usb-stick  the vpn-connections in the network manager in gnome are note available. how can i enable them?
[08:01] <ouyes> powertool08,  the best situation
[08:02] <powertool08> ouyes: It sucks, so I stay up late, sleep in late, and do whatever entertains me for free in between.
[08:02] <zer0_mood> hi all. i need to set a reminder or alarm to pop up every 10 minutes. how to do it ??
[08:02] <ScreaminIke> cron
[08:03] <One``> Hey guys.. is it possible to install Ubuntu from the HDD you are installing it on to?
[08:03] <ouyes> powertool08,  since you are time-free, and i need you advice, take a look at this
[08:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> One'' I guess it would be if you it was on another partition
[08:04] <ouyes> powertool08,  my thread  also my question , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1376583
[08:04] <zer0_mood> where is cron? in terminal says resource temporaly unavailable
[08:04] <powertool08> ouyes: I also stay logged into irc most of time, whether I'm here or not.
[08:04] <Jordan_U> One``: Yes, but it's not easy
[08:04] <zer0_mood> !cron
[08:04] <ardchoille> powertool08: the setting to remove the user list in gconf-editor doesn't work. must be left-over from Jaunty and someone forgot to remove the setting
[08:04] <hateball> zer0_mood: you can run "crontab -e" to edit your crontab... but there should be a simple gui tool for reminders *looking*
[08:05] <Awesome3000> c_nick   rm -ri *
[08:05] <One``> Dernit. Can't get my DVD drive to boot discs or be recognised in Windows, and don't have a blank CD to burn to.. only blank DVDs
[08:05] <c_nick> thanks Awesome3000
[08:05] <ardchoille> One``: you can burn a cd image to a blank dvd with no problem
[08:05] <rudi> fffffg
[08:05] <zer0_mood> i got it tnx
[08:05] <ouyes> how to login as root and how to creat a password for root ?
[08:05] <c_nick> sudo rm -rf * also works:)
[08:05] <Jordan_U> !install | One``
[08:05] <rudi> sir?
[08:06] <rudi> ya
[08:06] <Jordan_U> !root | ouyes
[08:06] <ardchoille> !sudo | ouyes we don't support that here
[08:06] <rudi> get out
[08:06] <One``> I've read it, the only way I can do it is if I can install from the HDD I am installing to.
[08:06] <me> hi
[08:06] <Guest53422> sudo -s
[08:06] <ardchoille> ouyes: unlocking the root account makes your system much less secure, you can't brute force a locked root account
[08:06] <One``> Or if I buy a PATA DVD-ROM :P
[08:06] <rudi> sudo su
[08:06] <floyd8> I want to create a linux set up with a pre-configured development enviorment for my team members. How would I go about doing something like that?
[08:06] <ardchoille> rudi: sudo -i is recommended
[08:07] <Awesome3000> c_nick  -f is for forcefully  well the -i is interactive making it safer
[08:07] <Jordan_U> One``: How much ram do you have?
[08:07] <rudi> configure
[08:07] <hateball> zer0_mood: I havent tried it, but maybe xwrits can do what you want
[08:07] <ouyes> ardchoille, i think you both misunderstand my words
[08:07] <rudi> scaning modem
[08:08] <ardchoille> ouyes: you asked how to login as root. the answer is you don't, use sudo
[08:08] <ouyes> i try to know the something about the root user
[08:08] <Awesome3000> ouyes  sudo su gets you to a root prompt
[08:08] <rudi> sudo su
[08:08] <ardchoille> ouyes: sudo -i is recommended
[08:08] <rudi> sudo to login roo
[08:08] <jussi01> !root
[08:08] <rudi> sudo to login root
[08:08] <c_nick> ohk
[08:08] <ouyes> Awesome3000,  o i know and i ever used sudo -i
[08:08] <jussi01> rudi: please dont give out wrong/bad advice.
[08:09] <rudi> to make install
[08:09] <ouyes> i have been using ubunt since 8.04
[08:09] <cobra679> i have been using backtrack
[08:09] <ouyes> i know quite a few thing s
[08:09] <rudi> i have been using ubuntu 8.10
[08:09] <ardchoille> ouyes: I have been using ubuntu since 5.04 and have never had to unlock the root account
[08:09] <Jordan_U> One``: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM Though if something goes wrong with the install you will be SOL without a liveCD
[08:10] <rudi> sudo install cdrom
[08:10] <One``> 512mb
[08:10] <jussi01> rudi: ?
[08:10] <alloosh> guys, this is really disturbing, why quanta is not working with sftp?
[08:10] <cobra679> sudo install dildo
[08:10] <johnKeynes> hi. when i am in a wlan i use vpn. i have got vodafone mobile connect, too. but when i am online with the vodafone 3g usb-stick  the vpn-connections in the network manager in gnome are note available. how can i enable them?
[08:10] <Jordan_U> One``: 512 meg is not enough to boot the Ubuntu liveCD into RAM
[08:10] <ardchoille> cobra679: Please don't post stuff like that here, this is a family friendly channel
[08:11] <cobra679> how much ram do you need Jordan
[08:11] <Jordan_U> One``: Why can't you use the LiveCD installer?
[08:11] <cobra679> i got 2 gb
[08:11] <rudi> enough
[08:11] <ouyes> ardchoille, i am worried, if there is no password for the root user, somebody can start my pc and he donnot know ouyes account's password but he can login in as root
[08:11] <ardchoille> ouyes: you cannot log into a locked account, don't worry about it
[08:11] <Jordan_U> One``: At least 1 GIG, and this isn't the most dependable procedure
[08:11] <cobra679> do you need an anti virus ?
[08:11] <powertool08> ouyes:  To answer the forum question: As for ubuntu supporting that cpu, who knows. You might want to ask around in #ubuntu-dev. And for size, I have a 15" laptop, I think its big and heavy and I wish I had gone with a 12" or so, still big enough to see and usable as a desktop replacement in a pinch, yet small enough to still be portable and light.
[08:11] <rudi> yes
[08:11] <Jordan_U> !virus | cobra679
[08:12] <ardchoille> cobra679: you don't need that
[08:12] <One``> I don't have any blank CDs, and don't want to go out to buy some. Only have blank DVDs, but the computer won't boot from the SATA DVD drive but will recognise it during the boot process.
[08:12] <ardchoille> One``: you can burn a cd image to a blank dvd with no problem
[08:13] <Jordan_U> One``: Do you have a USB drive?
[08:13] <One``> But you can't read a DVD with a CD drive.
[08:13] <jussi01> powertool08: please dont send people to #ubuntu-dev (or #ubuntu-devel for that matter). the channel is strictly for development of ubuntu, not support.
[08:13] <One``> I don't have a 2GB USB drive.
[08:13] <ardchoille> One``: ah, good point
[08:13] <pwnedulongtime> linux don't need no AV.....rootkits kickass
[08:13] <Jordan_U> One``: Do you have any size USB drive?
[08:13] <One``> 1GB
[08:13] <Jordan_U> One``: Can your computer boot from USB?
[08:13] <One``> Yes.
[08:13] <cobra679> maybe
[08:13] <ouyes> powertool08,  you made one of the best answer
[08:13] <powertool08> jussi01: Sorry, wasn't aware of that. Would #ubuntu+1 be a better place for ouyes to ask about future hardware support?
[08:14] <cobra679> im having hot dogs tonight
[08:14] <Jordan_U> One``: Then follow the installation from flash drive instructions in the link from ubottu
[08:14] <One``> I followed the instructions for booting from USB memory, but apparently 2GB is the minimum
[08:14] <ouyes> powertool08, is it ?
[08:14] <XBlackChaosX> hi. i just installed ubuntu 9.10 alongside windows 7. This is my first time messing with linux. Im trying to edit the grub menu but i dont know how can anyone please help. Thank you.
[08:15] <Jordan_U> One``: Where does it say that?
[08:15] <jussi01> powertool08: #ubuntu+1 is for the next release of ubuntu, so perhaps. Depends on the actual question, although its much like looking into a crystal ball.
[08:15] <zvacet> !grub | XBlackChaosX
[08:15] <cobra679> Whats the command to install amsn from console ?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | XBlackChaosX
[08:16] <zvacet> !grub2 | XBlackChaosX
[08:16] <One``> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:16] <One``> "•2GB thumbdrive, or just do network install "
[08:16] <ouyes> !sudo |  ouyes
[08:16] <powertool08> ouyes: I guess you'll have to wait for the cpu to be released and then try to find some knowledgable types?
[08:16] <pwnedulongtime> why use amsn when you hasve pidgin?
[08:16] <cobra679> is pidgin better ?
[08:16] <pwnedulongtime> ya
[08:16] <Awesome3000> XBlackChaosX  what do you need help with specifically
[08:16] <cobra679> im using Kopete but i dont like it
[08:16] <One``> I gave it a go with the 1GB option, but it still needed 1700MB
[08:17] <cobra679> do you know the command for that
[08:17] <cobra679> to install pidgin from console
[08:17] <jussi01> cobra679: sudo apt-get install amsn
[08:17] <pwnedulongtime> sudo apt-get install pidgin
[08:17] <johnKeynes> why are my vpn-connection disabled in the gnome network manager when i am online with 3g?
[08:17] <Guest42374> sal
[08:17] <jussi01> ardchoille: may I PM?
[08:17] <XBlackChaosX> k thanks for you help guys
[08:17] <zvacet> cobra679:  sudo apt-get install pidgin
[08:17] <ardchoille> jussi01: Certainly
[08:17] <pwnedulongtime> 3g doesn't support vpn
[08:18] <XBlackChaosX> @ awesome : i want to edit the order and the names of the os that appears in the grub menu. i dont know if this makes sence to you
[08:18] <Jordan_U> One``: That page is wrong, you only need a 700 meg flash drive, even for Ubuntu Desktop
[08:19] <c_nick> how to copy ALL file from one folder to another..  i mean also the hidden ones
[08:19] <ShazbotMcNasty> oh my god
[08:19] <ShazbotMcNasty> that was a massive netsplit
[08:19] <powertool08> c_nick: cp *.* /path/to/target/folder
[08:19] <pwnedulongtime> epic netsplit
[08:19] <ouyes> powertool08,  it is released already, i am just wandering you guys always lost behind the latest  hardware tech
[08:20] <c_nick> powertool08:  cannot stat *.*
[08:20] <powertool08> ouyes: Compared to Japan or similar, yes. The world in general? Probably about average. I don't stay on top of hardware advances though.
[08:20] <rudi> setting modem ?/
[08:21] <Awesome3000> XBlackChaosX  That should be easy  in a terminal use   sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   to edit the list as root
[08:21] <Petsounds> !modem > rudi
[08:21] <zvacet> c_nick: cp -R /path/yo/folder
[08:21] <powertool08> c_nick: hmm, works for me
[08:22] <rudi> ]why?
[08:22] <One``> Hurrah, I got the DVD drive working.. perhaps I can install Ubuntu now.
[08:22] <ouyes> powertool08,  why all of a sudden, so many joins ?
[08:23] <Jordan_U> One``: I need to leave now so I don't have time to check those instructions completely to be sure that you don't in fact need a 2 GIG flash drive when using those instructions. I am 95% sure those instructions don't require 2 GIG though, and if they really do, I am 100% sure that these ( much more complicated ) instructions will work fine with 1 GIG: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[08:23] <powertool08> ouyes: Somebody said there was a netsplit, I didn't notice it though
[08:23] <powertool08> !netsplit > ouyes
[08:23] <Awesome3000> !netsplit
[08:24] <c_nick> well its still not working properly be back later :)
[08:24] <ShazbotMcNasty> c_nick, 'man cp' outputs this near the bottom "   The  backup  suffix  is  ‘~’,  unless  set  with   --suffix   or   SIM‐
[08:24] <ShazbotMcNasty>        PLE_BACKUP_SUFFIX.   The version control method may be selected via the
[08:24] <ShazbotMcNasty>        --backup option or through the  VERSION_CONTROL  environment  variable.
[08:24] <ShazbotMcNasty>        Here are the values:
[08:24] <ShazbotMcNasty> "
[08:24] <rizvan>  hi, how to type zwnj (zero width non-joiner) in Hindi keyboard layout, i have 3rd level with right-ctrl key
[08:24] <ShazbotMcNasty> :| kinda big sorry
[08:24] <Robot> ubuntu is awesome. i've just discovered this.
[08:24] <ShazbotMcNasty> ah crud he left
[08:24] <ShazbotMcNasty> Robot, how long have you been using linux? Brand new?
[08:24] <ShazbotMcNasty> Or just new to ubuntu?
[08:25] <Robot> not entirely new. messed around with it a bit
[08:25] <powertool08> ouyes: You can hide parts and joins if you wish, it makes large channels more manageable.
[08:25] <One``> thanks Jordan_U.
[08:26] <powertool08> ouyes: I think the command is something similar to: /ignore * PARTS JOINS QUITS,
[08:26] <Robot> and ubuntu seems to work the best for me. got a few windoze progs to work (games) so that's fun :P
[08:26] <Lostinspace_46> Any one got an idea what would cause this msg when putting a disk in my c/d rom?Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[08:26] <Lostinspace_46> mount: must be superuser to use mount
[08:26] <ShazbotMcNasty> One``, do you know exactly how big the iso is?
[08:26] <ouyes> powertool08,  you do know a lot, that's ok to see somebody in and out
[08:27] <user_> hi all people
[08:27] <user_> good morning
[08:27] <XBlackChaosX> Awesome3000, this is all that comes up : GNU nano 2.0.9 File:  /Boot/grub/menu.lst..... what do i do with this?
[08:27] <user_> i got one error when i do "hg Clone":
[08:27] <powertool08> ouyes: its /ignore -channels #channelToAffect * JOINS PARTS QUITS
[08:27] <ouyes> hi you it is your morning
[08:27] <user_>  encoding="ANSI_X3.4-1968"?
[08:27] <user_> abort: requirement '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ANSI_X3.4-1968"?>' not supported!
[08:27] <user_> i cant find any solution under forums or google
[08:27] <One``> Something like 700MB?  I don't consider myself a guru compared to many people here.
[08:28] <Awesome3000> XBlackChaosX   Maybe your grub is installed somewhere else?   Google-fu is the key.
[08:29] <Awesome3000> XBlackChaosX  I have never worked with grub 2  so can't help  I don't think it uses a menu.lst
[08:29] <V1k1n9> Hi, how can i do to download the content of an iframe in a php page plz ? that doesn't work correctly with wget -> I have a crypted code. (maybe there are an option...) I have the right result by using the "firebug" of Firefox, but i can't have it with a command line (maybe with lynx...)
[08:29] <zvacet> XBlackChaosX: applications>accessories>terminal and type lsb_release -a and you will know witchc version do you use
[08:30] <XBlackChaosX> Awesome3000, its grub 2. is there a way to go to grub 1?
[08:30] <powertool08> ouyes: I've trashed an install or three in my time ;)
[08:30] <Shaolu> XBlackChaosX: Did you say "/Boot"?
[08:30]  * Blink Searching PPL For New Mu-Online Project! MSG For INFO!
[08:30]  * Blink Searching PPL For New Mu-Online Project! MSG For INFO!
[08:30] <Blink> n
[08:31] <Shaolu> XBlackChaosX: If you're trying to edit your boot entries, I would instead recommend running "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[08:31] <Awesome3000> I got to Go  :( :(
[08:32] <ShazbotMcNasty> !hacking
[08:32] <XBlackChaosX> Shaolu, all i get is a blank white page
[08:32] <zvacet> Shaolu:  no if he use karmic
[08:32] <ShazbotMcNasty> cobra679, if you mean having like that, then sure.
[08:32] <zvacet> xblac
[08:32] <seryl> Anyone have experience with tinydns?

[08:32] <powertool08> XBlackChaosX: If you're using grub2, its grub.cfg not menu.list
[08:32] <seryl> I can't get anyone in the dns channel (who's alive) to respond
[08:32] <zvacet> XBlackChaosX: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reverting to GRUB Legacy
[08:32] <Awesome3000> Shaolu	XBlackChaosX  don't sudo gedit  you have to gksudo gedit
[08:33] <ouyes> powertool08,  use google, i have installed and get system crashed more than once
[08:33] <seryl> This is my dns config: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/aU5LDbzJOPOX2BWc51Q2/ and I can't seem to get pings out to my servers properly, it's suuuper slow, and I'm not sure why.
[08:33] <cobra679> you know www.google-fu.com I cant get passed the comfirmation thing u have to enter when u register because im colour blind :(
[08:33] <Shaolu> Awesome3000: I figured he was already on the command-line, gksudo would be if he's using Alt + F2 or something.
[08:34] <][ce> you all got reemed
[08:34] <][ce> :P
[08:34] <Shaolu> powertool08: So /boot/grub/grub.cfg then?
[08:34] <Awesome3000> Shaolu  see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for an explanation
[08:34] <ardchoille> ][ce: take that to another channel please
[08:35] <powertool08> Shaolu: Yep
[08:35] <][ce> fuck you asshole mind yo bis
[08:35] <ardchoille> !ops | ][ce
[08:35] <Aragami> sal
[08:36] <zvacet> !language | ][ce
[08:36] <Aragami> can you help me?
[08:37] <zvacet> !ask | Aragami
[08:37] <Shaolu> Ah...
[08:37] <Shaolu> So that's the .ICEAuthority issue I've seen...
[08:37] <Shaolu> Thanks, Awesome3000 :)
[08:37] <Aragami> y cant change rezolution
[08:38] <Aragami> low rez on fx 5200
[08:38] <powertool08> seryl: #networking might be awake
[08:38] <seryl> powertool08: you're more awake than I apparently, thanks :)
[08:39] <Shaolu> Aragami: Do you have the latest drivers from NVidia?
[08:39] <powertool08> seryl: Not by much, Its late. ;)
[08:39] <Aragami> yes
[08:39] <Aragami> bat dont save rez
[08:39] <Shaolu> Do you have System --> Preferences --> NVidia X Server Settings?
[08:39] <Aragami> yes
[08:40] <Shaolu> And you're changing the resolution through there, right?
[08:40] <XBlackChaosX> how can i find out which device ubuntu is on sda, sdb, etc
[08:40] <Shaolu> Now are you saying the resolution doesn't change immediately or that it does change immediately but resets itself when you log back in?
[08:41] <Makaveli> hello I am thinnking of switching to Ubuntu, but I have a question in regards to the drive. In windows, we have C D, E and F drive, so when I switch from XP to windows vista, I just format C drive, but In ubuntu I am afraid there is an option like that. Am I wrong.. please enlighten me a noobie
[08:41] <Shaolu> Because if it's the latter, you need to "Save to X Configuration File"
[08:41] <Aragami> when y try to change rez y sez y dont have enaf right
[08:41] <Shaolu> You don't have enough what?
[08:41] <Aragami> dont let me to save to x conf
[08:41] <zvacet> XBlackChaosX:  sudo fdisk -a
[08:41] <XBlackChaosX> zvacet, thanks
[08:42] <zvacet> XBlackChaosX:  np  :)
[08:42] <Lostinspace_46> Any one know what would cause this msg when putting a disk in my c/d rom?  Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:mount: must be superuser to use mount
[08:42] <Shaolu> Aragami: Alt+F2 and type "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[08:42] <Shaolu> Aragami: Try the save button then :)
[08:43] <Makaveli> can you please help me?
[08:43] <kjelle> hi. I want to stop using Kopete, any other cool program which supports jabber/xmpp and msn protocols in KDE?
[08:43] <zvacet> Makaveli:  do you want dual boot or just ubuntu on that drive
[08:43] <DJones> kjelle: Try pidgin
[08:43] <kjelle> DJones: ty
[08:43] <Shaolu> kjelle: Not a big Gnome fan, eh?
[08:44] <Shaolu> kjelle: Pidgin is built on Gtk, just so you know.
[08:44] <kjelle> Shaolu: i dont want to mix in gnome in my kde. but, im about done with kde, so in the future i'll probalby turn to gnome :p
[08:44] <kjelle> Shaolu: ah, ok
[08:44] <Makaveli> @ zvacet I just want to use Ubuntu from now on
[08:44] <DJones> kjelle: Thats probably the main chat client used, or if you're on Karmic, the other alternative is Empathy which is the default for Karmic
[08:44] <Aragami> VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[08:44] <Aragami> Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default Screen"
[08:44] <pillow> I installed all libs/codecs from synaptic and i installed real player,smplayer, vlc player,audacious,beepmedia players  too but amr files recorded from cell phones are not playing in ubuntu :-(
[08:45] <zvacet> Makaveli:  during install you can delete existing partitions and install ubuntu
[08:45] <drmrhorse> pillow: i think ffmpeg supports amr
[08:45] <Aragami> Shaolu
[08:45] <Aragami> rezult this VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[08:45] <Aragami> Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default Screen"
[08:45] <Shaolu> pillow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=445398
[08:45] <kjelle> DJones: havent upgraded to karmic yet, as i havent had time to setup vmware in karmic on my homecomp. when i get that done, i'll go for it ;) but until i know for sure vmware can run w/o problems in karmic, im keeping my 9.04 :)
[08:45] <zvacet> Makaveli:  it will be good to have separate home partition use manual way to install
[08:46] <Makaveli> zvacet I know how to install ubuntu but what I want to know is how do i install ubuntu on the C drive only
[08:46] <Makaveli> and put data's on D , E and F
[08:46] <pillow> drmrhorse ffmpeg is also installed
[08:46] <iKernel> hello
[08:46] <Shaolu> Makaveli: That's all configured during installation.
[08:46] <drmrhorse> pillow: there are instructions here on how to compile ffmpeg from source with amr support: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[08:47] <DJones> kjelle: I'm using karmic, but I've stuck with pidgin because it suits my use better, it connects to pretty much all the different chat proctols so should cover anything you need
[08:47] <zvacet> Makaveli:  it is little bit different than win linux use root home ... not c,d,e
[08:47] <powertool08> pillow: if you compile, use checkinstall so its easy to uninstall
[08:47] <Shaolu> Makaveli: Just select the partition for C and have Ubuntu installed on it, overwriting everything on it while selecting the other partitions to be left alone.
[08:47] <Gary20> is there a LAMP package out there w/ python?
[08:47] <Aragami> ok ,merci
[08:47] <seryl> LAMP with python? WHY!
[08:47] <drmrhorse> the instructions for ffmpeg use checkinstall
[08:47] <seryl> Nginx and Python chief
[08:47] <Shaolu> Makaveli: You can even non-destructively repartition drives if need be.
[08:48] <seryl> Why apache? Talk about overdoing it
[08:48] <unknown32> hello i did a update and rebooted pc and all  my sessions are blank, gnome and blackbox are not available to me is this a known isssue?
[08:48] <iKernel> I'm having trouble logging into my desktop environment (xfce4). When I enter my password, hit enter, it starts to load up, but then the X server restarts, and I'm presented with a fresh login prompt. This is what is in dmesg every time: pastebin.ca/1748019 . This happens every time I try to log in to the desktop environment, everything else is fine.
[08:49] <Gary20> seryl: lighttpd? good?
[08:49] <coz_> iKernel,  that pastebin.ca link is not good
[08:49] <seryl> Did I say lighttpd? What is this 1999?
[08:49] <iKernel> coz_ what do you mean?
[08:49] <seryl> Gary20: nginx is better by orders of magnitude.
[08:49] <unknown32> ikernel i am having the same problem I cannot log onto a desktop enviroment (gnome) as well
[08:49] <coz_> iKernel,   it should be http://pastebin.ca + number
[08:49] <powertool08> coz_: sure it is, just not a clickable link.
[08:50] <iKernel> http://pastebin.ca/1748019
[08:50] <iKernel> i had to write it down with pen and paper
[08:50] <Gary20> new and currently learning about web servers. i'll look into nginx
[08:50] <seryl> Gary20: what type of app are you trying to run, web app? Look into pylons, or turbogears if you want to go the python route
[08:50] <XBlackChaosX> starting a new OS is not an easy thing
[08:50] <Redaxxx> I got a minor but quite annoying problem with xubuntu, everytime I boot my computer and reach the desktop it automatically opens terminal, hardware drivers and add/remove software (or whatever it's called in English)... When shutting off I make sure that "Save session for future logins" is not marked.  Anyone know how to stop this from happening?
[08:51] <iKernel> unknown32, when installing, did you choose to make it so you need the password to log in and decrypt your file system?
[08:51] <ardchoille> Redaxxx: you need to be in #xubuntu, we can't support that here
[08:51] <Redaxxx> Alright
[08:51] <powertool08> Redaxxx: I had that problem once, you have to delete the folder which holds the saved session, logout, and back in.
[08:52] <papul> hi. i would like to know how to install and use tor
[08:52] <Redaxxx> Alright, I'll look into that powertool, thanks
[08:52] <powertool08> Redaxxx: You're welcome.
[08:52] <papul> i have used it before on win xp. is vidilia also available for ubuntu?
[08:52] <unknown32> ikernel nothing,   ... as a work around right now i am reinstalling ubuntu-desktop package on apt to see if that works
[08:52] <cobra679> how do i get into making my own linux distro ?
[08:53] <iKernel> cobra679, linux from scratch
[08:53] <cobra679> is it easy ?
[08:53] <kjelle> DJones: yepp ;)
[08:53] <powertool08> !LFS > cobra679
[08:53] <iKernel> cobra679, no
[08:53] <kjelle> DJones: ty
[08:53] <unknown32> nope
[08:53] <Shaolu> cobra679: Get a CD burner, some CDs, and some cases?
[08:53] <Shwack> does anybody use grooveshark widgets?
[08:53] <ardchoille> !ot | cobra679
[08:53] <iKernel> unknown32, yeah well I chose to make it so I need the password to decrypt my file system
[08:53] <XBlackChaosX> i need help once more. i reverted back to grub 1 but now it doesnt even show a menu at startup it just says grub at the top left corner and then it boots straight to ubuntu. and when i took a look at the grub menu.lst i dont see windows on it all i see is this
[08:53] <Gary20> seryl: i was told to learn django and twisted.
[08:53] <unknown32> oh i see
[08:53] <rww> papul: Installation instructions are at http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en . In my experience, Vidilia is a pain to get running.
[08:53] <XBlackChaosX> can someone do private chat i dont wanna flood the channel
[08:54] <papul> ok rww thanks
[08:54] <Slart> !pastebin | XBlackChaosX
[08:54] <rww> papul: (you want option 2 on that page)
[08:54] <Myrtti> !pm | XBlackChaosX
[08:54] <ardchoille> XBlackChaosX: it's best to keep it in the channel so others may learn too :)
[08:54] <XBlackChaosX> k
[08:54] <XBlackChaosX> np
[08:54] <iKernel> Another annoying thiing is that when I shut down from the xfce4 screen, xfce4 closes all the windows, then just before it gets to closing off X, the computer freezes and I have to do a hard power off.
[08:54] <iKernel> i've had to do that a few times, and I think it might be related to my problem
[08:55] <powertool08> XBlackChaosX: You may need to run 'update-grub' when in a grub shell (looks like 'grub>  ')
[08:55] <ardchoille> !away | tk_afk
[08:55] <kinja-sheep> !away > tk_afk
[08:55] <mmanu> hello, what should i set the PATH variable in .bashrc so that i can include all subfolders under a folder say /home/jeff/folder?
[08:55] <iKernel> !LFS > iKernel
[08:56] <unknown32> ikernel :  reinstalling ubuntu-desktop worked to get my sessions back
[08:56] <kinja-sheep> mmanu: Use ~/bin for all your script goodies.
[08:56] <XBlackChaosX> here is the link for the paste
[08:56] <XBlackChaosX> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ma826288
[08:56] <unknown32> i do not know why i didn't try that before
[08:56] <V1k1n9> Hey is there an equivalent in command line of the firebug extension of firefox plz ? a kind of super source code or something like that ?
[08:56] <drmrhorse> !LFS > drmrhorse
[08:56] <mmanu> but ive got some scripts under my home directory
[08:56] <iKernel> unknown32, but you don't have your /home directory encrypted
[08:56] <unknown32> right
[08:56] <mmanu> and theyare in subfolders
[08:56] <iKernel> meh ill give it a shot
[08:57] <cobra679> how old are most of you
[08:57] <UAA> hello, I've problem with partionar. It says space unusable. the same thing still after restart
[08:57] <kinja-sheep> mmanu: Look in ~/.profile
[08:57] <mmanu> OKAY
[08:57] <cobra679> UAA use a windows disk to delete and create partitions then try install ubuntu again
[08:57] <UAA> :S so it's bug?
[08:58] <Shaolu> Can someone tell me what FSF means by "Graphical Interface" on its page about Grub2?  I mean, grub already supports graphical backgrounds and what not...
[08:58] <cobra679> UAA no idea
[08:58] <cobra679> UAA just give that a go
[08:58] <Shaolu> Hmm...
[08:59] <Shaolu> Oh, I see...
[08:59] <Shaolu> Full-on widgets, nice :)
[08:59]  * cobra679 pats Shaolu on the back
[09:00] <Shaolu> :3
[09:00] <cobra679> Shaolu want to chat via pm ?
[09:00] <Shaolu> Sure :)
[09:01] <gazra> Hello, does anyone know where I can find infos about cloud computer services. Differences between Google, Amazon, Ubuntu, etc clouds?
[09:03] <MASARUwota> gazra: wikipedia?
[09:03] <ardchoille> gazra: That's a very interesting idea and one I feel the rest of the community needs to know as well. Perhaps you can post this question at http://ubuntuforums.org
[09:03] <MASARUwota> "cloud computing" D:
[09:03] <MASARUwota> enjoy privacy loss and corporational control D:
[09:04] <Quan-Time_> gazra: "consipracy theory ahoy" resist cloud computing.. your data will no longer be "your data". much like the pics on facebook, they are 100% no longer yours.. etc..
[09:04] <ardchoille> !ot
[09:04] <gazra> What I'm interested is to make a comparison between the top offerings
[09:05] <gazra> But i don't seem to find much with Google
[09:06] <kinja-sheep> gazra: Silly theory! Google is concealing the evidences!
[09:06] <Quan-Time_> gazra: in #ubuntu-offtopic please ;)
[09:06] <gazra> And this is Ubuntu related!! So please don't make ubottu to tell me that I'm offtopic
[09:06] <MASARUwota> !ot|gazra
[09:06] <MASARUwota> :/
[09:06] <gazra> Ubuntu has also a cloud!
[09:06] <Quan-Time_> gazra: ok.. wahts your question ?
[09:06] <rww> gazra: this channel is for Ubuntu technical support. Cloud computing is neither Ubuntu-related nor a technical support issue.
[09:06] <Quan-Time_> gazra: HARHARCH repositories are not "cloud".. is that what you mean ?
[09:07] <gazra> What???????????????
[09:07] <gazra> Well, then I'm miss informed
[09:07] <rww> gazra: us sharing a name with a cloud computing solution does not make said solution on-topic for here.
[09:07] <MASARUwota> gazra: lol
[09:07] <Quan-Time_> gazra: PM chat me
[09:07] <gazra> So Ubuntu cloud solution has nothing to do with Ubuntu?
[09:07] <ardchoille> Folks, please take the cloud computing conversation to another channel.
[09:07] <MASARUwota> gazra: not with #ubuntu, the ubuntu support channel
[09:08] <XBlackChaosX> Hello again dont mean to be annoying but here is the link to my paste :http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ma826288
[09:08] <rww> gazra: please, feel free to ask #ubuntu-offtopic all about it.
[09:08] <XBlackChaosX> as you can see windows is not in the menu
[09:08] <XBlackChaosX> what went wrong
[09:08] <MASARUwota> XBlackChaosX: windows is not a linux kernel dude
[09:08] <MASARUwota> XBlackChaosX: did you run sudo update-grub
[09:08] <MASARUwota> ?
[09:08] <gazra> OK, then, I just want to make clear it was not my intention to bather anyone, I really though it was ubuntu related
[09:09] <coz_> gazra,  no problem :)
[09:10] <XBlackChaosX> no i didnt let me do that. this is my first time  using linux so this is all new and hard for me. im a windows guy
[09:11] <ardchoille> !ubuntuone
[09:11] <drizzt__> I'm having problems trying to connect WinXP share to Karmic machine, getting NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE error
[09:12] <XBlackChaosX> MASARUwota, which option do i choose? im trying to update grub.
[09:12] <Morgie> hey
[09:13] <Morgie> anyone here?
[09:13] <XBlackChaosX> do i install the maintainer, keep local version, etc etc
[09:13] <drizzt__> XBlackChaosX, replace the existing one
[09:14] <XBlackChaosX> drizzt__, i dont see that option
[09:15] <grub_booter> does anyone know how the .local names are resolved? i'm finding that support for it is very spotty - some machines resolve perfectly by name.local, and others don't...
[09:15] <MASARUwota> XBlackChaosX: open a terminal and type "sudo update-grub"
[09:15] <MASARUwota> XBlackChaosX: check if it changed anything
[09:15] <rww> XBlackChaosX: installing the maintainer version will replace the existing one.
[09:15] <Heval> hi everyone. I have some problem with my ubuntu can i ask a question here?
[09:16] <coz_> Heval,  yep shoot
[09:16] <ouyes> Heval, say it
[09:16] <Heval> for some reason my ubuntu is refusing to connect to my router...
[09:16] <XBlackChaosX> now i got this when typing sudo update-grub
[09:16] <XBlackChaosX> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[09:16] <Heval> i have no problem connection to my friends router who is my next door neighbour and they are using WEP
[09:17] <ouyes> Heval, wireless line or wired line ?
[09:17] <Heval> but i have WPA on mine and it just wont connect to it..
[09:17] <Heval> wireless
[09:17] <dandaman> do any netbooks come with ubuntu loaded on them anymore? i wanna save some money on the OS by getting on with linux
[09:17] <dandaman> one*
[09:17] <ardchoille> dandaman: yes, zareason and system76
[09:18] <dandaman> i have never heard of either one of those...
[09:18] <ardchoille> dandaman: http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php  and  http://system76.com/  have a look, somce nice boxes there with ubuntu pre-loaded
[09:18] <Heval> i have win7 on different machine and my iphone connect to my wireless router no problem. it is just my ubuntu wont connect.
[09:18] <rww> dandaman: Dell does too. http://dell.com/ubuntu/
[09:18] <bXi_> anyone know something about the fact that my ubuntu does'nt remember its localhost adres
[09:19] <Heval> any possible reason... anything comes to anyones mind?!
[09:19] <dandaman> just looked at system, not cheap AT ALL
[09:19] <dandaman> why was i under the impression that ubuntu netbooks were supposed to be significantly cheaper than windows ones?
[09:19] <drizzt__> dandaman, Ubuntu systems are not cheap, because they are not popular
[09:20] <ouyes> Heval,  you tried to make a connection but failed ? how it failed like?
[09:20] <dandaman> drizzt__: wouldnt buying a windows one and just loading ubuntu on it be the same though?
[09:20] <rww> dandaman: yes
[09:20] <Heval> dandaman: just buy any netbook with a linux distro then install ubuntu on it
[09:20] <adityag> i am using 8.10, and i am getting very low screen resolution, pls help, i have 7.10 installed too but in 7.10 i get  a resolution of 1024*800
[09:20] <rww> dandaman: OEMs get Windows at huge discounts. You're not going to save much of anything by skipping the Windows license.
[09:20] <dandaman> thats retarded, ubuntu netbooks should be cheaper :(
[09:21] <drizzt__> dandaman, you will most likely encounter various hardware incompatibilities
[09:21] <Heval> anyone can help me with my wireless problem?!
[09:21] <dandaman> drizzt__: ahh
[09:21] <ouyes> Heval,  give us more details ok
[09:21] <adityag> i am using 8.10, and i am getting very low screen resolution, pls help, i have 7.10 installed too but in 7.10 i get  a resolution of 1024*800
[09:22] <Heval> ouyes: I have 2 machines, one with ubuntu one with win 7.
[09:22] <drizzt__> adityag, and your videocard is?
[09:22] <Heval> ouyes: my wireless router is using WPA as security...
[09:22] <ouyes> Heval, lap or pc, so the connection is ok in ubuntu?
[09:22] <dandaman> stupid....the HD's dell offers for their ubuntu netbooks are only 5400rpm or SSD...why cant i have 7200 rpm :(
[09:22] <coz_> Heval,   if no one has a solution here you might want to try  ##Linux  channel
[09:22] <ouyes> Heval,  in win 7
[09:22] <Heval> i am using al Alfa wireless card on a pc
[09:22] <adityag> drizzt__: dont have any, its in-built with the motherboard
[09:23] <Heval> ouyes: that is for the ubuntu
[09:23] <dandaman> doesnt even have wireless n
[09:23] <ouyes> Heval, is the connection ok in win7 but not in ubuntu at the same time?
[09:23] <adityag> drizzt__: i tried copying xorg.conf from 7.10 to 8.10, but that does not help
[09:23] <dandaman> netbooks are trash
[09:23] <Heval> ouyes: but on my laptop, i have win7 pro and i have no problem connection to my router
[09:23] <Heval> ouyes: yes
[09:24] <titan_ark> Heval, probably you need to install a properitery driver
[09:24] <Heval> ouyes: but, i have asked my neighbour for their WEP key. my Ubuntu have no problem connecting to theirs.
[09:25] <ouyes> Heval,  you have to use the same security way to make the connection work ,try to change security settings when you connect from ubuntu
[09:25] <adityag> i am using 8.10, and i am getting very low screen resolution, pls help, i have 7.10 installed too but in 7.10 i get  a resolution of 1024*800
[09:25] <Heval> ouyes: i have tried it with no security at all, but still the same problem. It wont connect to my home router.
[09:25] <Heval> i am on 9.10
[09:26] <MASARUwota> adityag: you cannot change it in the settings/
[09:26] <ouyes> Heval,  try this iwconfig
[09:26] <switchgirl> anyone having java issues?
[09:26] <ouyes> Heval, open a terminal and run iwconfig
[09:26] <adityag> MASARUwota: there is only 640*400 & 640*350
[09:27] <Heval> ouyes:  i have i get my setting, but i am connected to my neighbours router right now.
[09:27] <switchgirl> i'm trying to use gaydargirls.com chat and it keeps crashing on me
[09:27] <drizzt__> adityag, you probably need a new vendor driver. Does 7.10 ask you to do this?
[09:27] <drizzt__> adityag, and why 7.10? It;s not even supported now
[09:28] <ouyes> Heval, is there a wireless interface in the output?
[09:28] <Heval> yes wlan0
[09:28] <adityag> drizzt__: 7.10 does not asked anything... its just works cool in 7.10
[09:28] <Heval> ouyes: yes wlan0
[09:28] <MASARUwota> adityag: what does your videocard support?
[09:28] <gypsymauro> hi
[09:28] <ouyes> Heval, iwlist wlan0 scanning
[09:28] <MASARUwota> !hi|gypsymauro
[09:28] <Heval> ouyes: the router it is refusing to connect to is Linksys DEFW11S4
[09:29] <drizzt__> adityag, I mean you're not likely find a suitable videodriver for it now
[09:29] <dahlia> how do I tell 9.10 to share a folder so vista computers can see it? I have samba installed but it won't let me log in and I can't find a GUI that lets me configure samba
[09:29] <gypsymauro> I've a lot of images with different sizes, there is a tool to resize them with a fixed width? (proportionally)
[09:29] <titan_ark> Heval: sorry to interrupt, are yooou unable to connect to any wireless n/w?