[00:10] <anonymous> ukyk
[00:10] <anonymous> hola
[00:10] <anonymous> hola
[00:11] <kostkon> !info gnome xenial
[00:20] <stan_man_can> Where do I put an "export WHATVER=$HOME/whatever" to make it every time I login?
[00:20] <stan_man_can> .bashrc?
[00:22] <keonkim> my wifi doesn't work please help me
[00:22] <keonkim> someone please save me
[00:22] <bazhang> need more details keonkim
[00:23] <keonkim> bazhang: I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on a MacBook Air
[00:24] <Bashing-om> stan_man_can: Depends on the use case and system . For my use case in my system I would export in my .xinitrc file . You may or may not have/use this config file .
[00:24] <keonkim> bazhang: how do I get more information (like logs) about the problem?
[00:24] <bazhang> what is the wifi chipset keonkim
[00:25] <stan_man_can> Bashing-om, on a server
[00:25] <stan_man_can> "go build" need GOPATH to be set
[00:25] <stan_man_can> export GOPATH=$HOME/go
[00:26] <stan_man_can>  /s/need/needs
[00:27] <keonkim> bazhang: Airport Extreme
[00:28] <keonkim> bazhang: with Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 firmware
[00:28] <bazhang> keonkim, the wifi chipset differs from the apple branded name for that
[00:28] <bazhang> !broadcom | keonkim
[00:31] <keonkim> Broadcom bcm4360 802.11ac
[00:31] <keonkim> bazhang:
[00:31] <bazhang> read the link above for broadcom keonkim
[00:34] <wannabej> clear
[00:34] <enyc> wannabej: no this isn't a shell prompt =)
[00:34] <wannabej> rofl
[00:34] <wannabej> wrong window :)
[00:35] <evilytwisted> this isnt irssi
[00:38] <fn2> I decided to give unity another try and I noticed there is an issue where if I play a game full screen or max it flashes but if I don't max the screen out it doesn't. Is that an issue with unity or the graphics driver?
[00:49] <asq624> Hello
[00:52] <asq624> http://i.imgur.com/XqtCr0J.png How do I reset everything?
[00:53] <asq624> It's a fresh install, so there's nothing to back up
[00:53] <CarlenWhite> Should mdadm be halting the boot even if one of the drives is not present?
[00:54] <CarlenWhite> As in, mount, but as a degraded array?
[00:54] <CarlenWhite> I'm using RAID5 at the moment.
[00:54] <CarlenWhite> So I should be given one drive of failure and resume in a degraded state
[00:56] <asq6241> Pidgin crashed. Anyway, I meant that I don't mind doing a complete reset, just don't know how. Any help would be appreciated
[01:01] <Bashing-om> !sysrq | asq6241
[01:06] <asq6241> Bashing-om, I don't understand what that's for?
[01:07] <deathstar> hello all. I don't know if you guys can forsure answer this but, should the IRC pong messages be sent with the hostname (I.E. SENT: PONG :irc.mibbit.com) or the actual exact server address (SENT: PONG :irc.us.mibbit.net)? I dunno if it matters or if it should just match the connection.
[01:08] <Bashing-om> asq6241: Seems you indicate the system is froze up ??? If the keyboard is still active that sequence will gracefully reboot the system .
[01:09] <CarlenWhite> I interpreted it as pidgin threw a application error.
[01:09] <CarlenWhite> Not a complete kernal panic.
[01:09] <asq6241> I should've given more detail, sorry. Everything seems to work (now), it's just that no icons load
[01:09] <CarlenWhite> Fun
[01:10] <Kali_Yuga> since there will probably no new skype version for Linux, which is sad... are there any good replacements out there for linux? i'm using skype to talk to family that live in a different country. so i kind of rely on skype or some simple replacements that also old poeple could easily use ^^
[01:10] <asq6241> Earlier, it didn't recognize .png when I tried to save the screenshot, but that apparently fixed itself
[01:11] <kostkon> Kali_Yuga: there is. Search for Skype on omgubuntu.co.uk
[01:12] <kostkon> Kali_Yuga: it's still in beta but a new version nevertheless
[01:12] <Kali_Yuga> kostkon: I am asking cuz they don't come out with a new version. I'm just worried that I get up one day and my skype won't work anymore.. :/
[01:13] <kostkon> Kali_Yuga: but they did that's what I'm saying
[01:13] <Kali_Yuga> kostkon:  did what?
[01:14] <kostkon> Kali_Yuga: ms released a new version for Linux
[01:14] <Kali_Yuga> ? okay i have to see that
[01:15] <deathstar> kostkon: MS = microsoft?
[01:15] <kostkon> Kali_Yuga: yes
[01:15] <Kali_Yuga> kostkon: that was a question from deathstar ^^
[01:15] <kostkon> deathstar: that was for you sorry
[01:16] <kostkon> meant*
[01:16] <Kali_Yuga> kostkon: are you talking about this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/skype-linux-alpha
[01:17] <Kali_Yuga> you can't do anything with it yet
[01:17] <Kali_Yuga> No video calls No desktop screen sharing No support for running two clients at once No 32-bit Linux support
[01:18] <Kali_Yuga> but i'm glad that people are working on it
[01:19] <tarvid> The canary thread is apparently starving. Taking action.
[01:19] <tarvid> this Ubuntu 16.10 system freezes often
[01:19] <Kali_Yuga> cuz linux skype is so freaking old. group conversation doesn't even work anymore
[01:20] <Kali_Yuga> group chat* sorry
[01:21] <kostkon> Kali_Yuga: yes although latest post is this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/video-call-improvements-land-skype-linux-alpha-1-11 mentions video support
[01:24] <Kali_Yuga> okay thanks very much kostkon. so I won't have to worry about it anymore
[01:24] <asq6241> http://i.imgur.com/XqtCr0J.png Any advice?
[01:25] <kostkon> Kali_Yuga: np
[01:26] <Kali_Yuga> thought MS is going to just leave us alone without any new skype versions... thought one day i'll need to find a replacement. thx
[01:27] <kostkon> Kali_Yuga: they haven't given up on us just yet :)
[01:30] <Kali_Yuga> will keep my eye on the new version. as soon as video calling and more is working i'm gonna get the new version. so glad they are fixing it finally..
[01:33] <Siva_Machina> Well that was for 1.11 not 1.13
[01:33] <wyth> I could use some help with my server if anyone is around. I posted this question but no one has commented in 4-5 days. http://askubuntu.com/questions/851406/upgrade-to-ubuntu-server-16-04-1-lts-appeared-fine-python-and-other-issues-aris
[01:33] <Siva_Machina> so it may have support for video calls outside other Sky for Linux Alpha users
[01:34] <Siva_Machina> Skype
[01:34] <vfw> Kali_Yuga: Most use smart-phones for video conferencing now-days and there are a number of options.
[01:34] <Siva_Machina> https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/What-s-New-in-Skype-1-13-for-Linux-Alpha/td-p/4532982
[01:35] <vfw> Kali_Yuga: messenger, line, etc. etc.
[01:36] <wyth> My python configuration appears to be messed up, I can no longer apt-get upgrade due to unment exceptions. And due to the python issues I'm also not able to start transmission
[01:36] <wyth> *unmet dependencies
[01:37] <Kali_Yuga> thx like i said i get it as soon as i thing it's ready for use. like beta or something. alpha is a bit early for me. until then i'll use my old version
[01:37] <Kali_Yuga> think*
[01:40] <wyth> Anyone have any suggestions on what I could try?
[01:40] <winsen> hi all
[01:40] <wyth> Hi winsen
[01:42] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get -f update
[01:43] <wyth> "E: Command line option 'f' [from -f] is not understood in combination with the other options."
[01:43] <Siva_Machina> sudo apt -f update maybe?
[01:44] <wyth> Same thing
[01:44] <wyth> I've also tried "sudo apt-get -f install" but it fails
[01:45] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get -f update |& nc termbin.com 9999  #Send URL to us.
[01:45] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get -f install |& nc termbin.com 9999  #Send URL to us.
[01:45] <vfw> Sorry...
[01:45] <Kali_Yuga> wyth: sorry wyth i'm not familiar with servers :/. you upgraded to 16.04 from 14.04, maybe you have invalid entries still from 14.04 that are not in the 16.04 repos?
[01:46] <wyth> http://termbin.com/7e71
[01:46] <Kali_Yuga> but don't ask me
[01:46] <wyth> Kali, I think that is quite possibly the case, but not sure how to go about correcting it
[01:47] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:48] <Kali_Yuga> i was reading somewhere -make sure your sources.list only contain valid entries for 16.04
[01:48] <wyth> It fails at sudo apt-get upgrade, because of the unmet dependencies
[01:48] <Bashing-om> wyth: Pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' . Then we have more direction to look in .
[01:48] <vfw> wyth: What command returned the error we see at http://termbin.com/7e71 ?
[01:48] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:48] <winsen> I tried to recover partitions unfortunetely it doesn't work for me , worst even the grub2 that restored 2 days ago doesn't work and I wonder how can I reeinstall it. now I have the following errors: https://paste.debian.net/898938/, so I can't do all these steps as I did : https://paste.debian.net/898939/
[01:49] <wyth> the termbin was from sudo apt-get -f update
[01:49] <wyth> One second Bashing, I will get that
[01:49] <vfw> wyth: That was a mistake, change update to install
[01:49] <winsen> wyth: hi,  any clue?
[01:49] <vfw> wyth: My mistake.
[01:50] <wyth> http://pastebin.com/57DHhuvR
[01:50] <vfw> winsen: Recover partitions from _____________?
[01:51] <winsen> Bashing-om: do you know any good and free recover partition ?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> winsen: As is, looks like linux no longer exist on that hard drive . A better view at this time is a screenshot from GParted of sda .
[01:52] <vfw> wyth: sudo dpkg-reconfigure python-minimal
[01:53] <vfw> wyth: sudo dpkg-reconfigure python-minimal |& nc termbin.com 9999
[01:53] <winsen> Bashing-om: right
[01:53] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/oi03
[01:53] <winsen> vfw: I didn't follow you
[01:54] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get install python-minimal
[01:55] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/y5cs
[01:57] <winsen> Bashing-om: on gparted nothing changed. but I don't remember that I even deleted 1 ntfs partitionwhich's (document partition)
[01:57] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get --reinstall python-minimal
[01:58] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get --reinstall python-minimal |& nc termbin.com 9999
[01:58] <Daisuke> saaalve!!!
[01:58] <Bashing-om> winsen: Show me that GParted screenshot . I do expect that where the linux partitions were is now " unallocated space" .
[01:58] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/lqa6
[02:00] <winsen> Bashing-om: do you know any website past screenshot because I can't do it on debian pastbin
[02:00] <Guest23387> Hi, guys, I just got ubuntu MATE. I'm kinda a newbie with linux. Should I do any cleaning of any sort, like getting rid of temporary files or anything like they do on Windows?
[02:00] <Bashing-om> wyth: vfw :: Were me here I would see what results with a purge of python-dev .
[02:01] <vfw> wyth: What command generated the above information?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> !paste | winsen
[02:01] <wyth> the last one you sent me, sudo apt-get --reinstall python-minimal
[02:02] <wyth> Bashing: sudo apt-get purge python-dev?
[02:03] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt -purge python-minimal
[02:04] <wyth> vfw: "E: Command line option 'p' [from -purge] is not understood in combination with the other options."
[02:04] <Bashing-om> wyth: Yeah .. but apt-get is depreciated .. I suggest ' sudo apt purge python-dev ' . We can expect the package manager to scream and holler, but to also make further suggestions for a remedy .
[02:04] <wyth> ok, I'll give that a go Bashing
[02:05] <vfw> wyth: sorry it's --purge
[02:05] <vfw> wyth: dpkg --purge pyhon-minimal
[02:05] <wyth> bashing: http://pastebin.com/0pvKA6KE
[02:05] <vfw> wyth: dpkg --purge pyhon-minimal |nc termbin.com 9999
[02:07] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/7nj6
[02:08] <Bashing-om> !info python-all-dev xenial
[02:09] <vfw> dpkg --purge --force-depends python-minimal |& nc termbin.com 9999
[02:09] <winsen> Bashing-om: I couldn't paste it with http://imgur.com/
[02:10] <Kali_Yuga> winsen: I always just use xup.in then take the hardlink.
[02:10] <wyth> vfw: had to run it with sudo, but http://termbin.com/ctmj
[02:10] <Bashing-om> !info python-minimal xenial
[02:11] <vfw> wyth: sudo update |nc termbin.com 9999
[02:11] <Kali_Yuga> u don't need account either
[02:12] <wyth> vfw: sudo update "command not found" sudo apt-get update: http://termbin.com/ld2f
[02:12] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt update |nc termbin.com 9999
[02:13] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/zl3y
[02:14] <winsen> Bashing-om: http://www.xup.in/dl,44673077/Screenshot_gparted/
[02:14] <vfw> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[02:14] <winsen> Kali_Yuga: thanks. it seems working
[02:14] <vfw> wyth:   ^^^^^^^^^^
[02:14] <Kali_Yuga> winsen: lol he took my link ^^
[02:15] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt -f install python-minimal
[02:15] <Kali_Yuga> No
[02:15] <wyth> vfw: I get this at sudo apt-get upgrade "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[02:16] <vfw> wyth: Run it.
[02:16] <vfw> wyth: sudo dpkg --configure -a |nc termbin.com 9999
[02:16] <Kali_Yuga> winsen no you have to post hardlink
[02:16] <winsen> Bashing-om: can you see it?
[02:17] <uxfi> test
[02:17] <uxfi> test
[02:17] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/40b9
[02:17] <bwlang> have have two similar machines, and would like to share my home directory between them is there anything better than nfs (better = simpler, better performance)
[02:18] <vfw> wyth: lsb_release -a |& nc termbin.com 9999
[02:18] <Kali_Yuga> winsen that: http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=14286094
[02:18] <Kali_Yuga> Hardlink is the pic
[02:19] <uxfi> hi Kali_Yuga
[02:19] <uxfi> :)
[02:19] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/5z96
[02:19] <Kali_Yuga> hey
[02:19] <Bashing-om> winsen: Sorry, not - I do not download things I do not know the source of .. I do not trust . Find some other means to transfer the screenshot of GParted if you desire my continued assistance .
[02:20] <Kali_Yuga> he uploaded wrong. http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=14286094 this is a screen a.e. no download
[02:20] <winsen> Bashing-om: i don't know how to show this, I forgot one I used to use
[02:20] <pauser> Hello I need some help. I wanted to have root privileges and I did this. " sudo chmod g+rwx / -R 2> /dev/null ". Now everything seems to be work. Wireless and many things do not work. Any help how should I revert?
[02:23] <vfw> wyth: apt-cache policy python* |& nc termbin.com 9999
[02:24] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/ad2a
[02:24] <Bashing-om> winsen: Do not feel alone , I do not know also how to tell you what I do not know .
[02:26] <winsen> Bashing-om: no problem man. I am not angry about linux itself but about document I deleted, I'll try to recover it with other software..
[02:28] <winsen> Bashing-om: I really don't know how is that possible 3 partitions disapared? even though 3 of them have different FS!? fat32, Ntfs and Ext4
[02:29] <winsen> Bashing-om: do you think I can install the grub without following all steps I showed above.
[02:29] <Bashing-om> winsen: I know of no more thourough tool for recovery than testdisk . But there does exist other tools . If you have ran testdiak and wrote to that drive your chnaces of recovery are slim . https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery .
[02:30] <Bashing-om> winsen: With no known linux install there is no point in installing a linux boot loader . period .
[02:31] <winsen> Bashing-om: That's what I think too
[02:32] <winsen> Bashing-om: I didn't try testdisk before, I remeber the last time i used one was scafanger something like that, I 'll try with this or ...
[02:34] <Bashing-om> winsen: The best thing - in my opinion - here is to image that drive and work from the image . IF you value your data .
[02:35] <wyth> It's quite a long paste, are you still with me vfw?
[02:35] <winsen> Bashing-om: I should try though. I don't have another hdd. it requires 140GB,
[02:37] <winsen> Bashing-om: I'll try later. have good night all
[02:37] <wyth> Heh, it was a good effort Bashing
[02:38] <Bashing-om> winsen: testdisk can and will recover the partition table . and can set things aright . but one slip and your data will be history . Proceed with extreme care and caution . Be very sure of what you are doing .. do your homework !
[02:39] <wyth> He's already gone. :P
[02:39] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt purge python-dev python-all-dbg python-all-dev python-dbg  python-all |nc termbin.com 9999
[02:39] <wyth> vfw: Thanks, one sec
[02:39] <Bashing-om> wyth: I have not kept up . what is the status - My last thought was that there was a python PPA cinflicting with what is installed from the repo .
[02:40] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/ycmq
[02:41] <wyth> Bashing: I think that's more or less where we're at. :P
[02:41] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get -f install |nc termbin.com 9999
[02:42] <pauser> can somebody help me? I executing this " sudo chmod g+rwx / -R 2> /dev/null " and now almost nothing works normally.
[02:43] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/a9ii
[02:43] <Bashing-om> vfw: wyth Have a look ' apt-cache policy python-minimal python-dev ' .
[02:44] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get autoremove |nc termbin.com 9999
[02:44] <Guest_84483> allah is doing
[02:44] <wyth> bashing: http://pastebin.com/D9NwskdF
[02:44] <Guest_84483> sun is not doing allah is doing
[02:44] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/9vzs
[02:45] <Guest_84483> moon is not doing allah is doing
[02:46] <vfw> wyth: So you upgraded from ________ to 16.04?
[02:46] <wyth> vfw: 14.04 I believe
[02:46] <vfw> wyth: Did you, or do you now, have any ppa's?
[02:47] <wyth> vfw: I'm not sure. Is there a command to check?
[02:47] <wyth> vfw & bashing: I appreciate all the help by the way
[02:48] <Bashing-om> wyth: I just looking iver yalls shoulder . OK .. " //us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main i386 Packages " is this a 32 bit install ?
[02:48] <vfw> wyth: cat /etc/apt/sources.list |nc termbin.com 9999
[02:48] <wyth> Bashing: Yes, it's 32bit
[02:48] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/cwic
[02:48] <vfw> Bashing-om: By all means, *help*  :)
[02:49] <Bashing-om> wyth: At this time python-dev and python-minimal look to be stable .
[02:50] <vfw> Bashing-om: I see:  xenial-backports (What do you think?
[02:51] <Bashing-om> wyth: 3rd party directory for sources ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' in a pastebin, please .
[02:51] <vfw> Bashing-om: It's been my experience that backports is a no no....
[02:52] <wyth> bashing: http://pastebin.com/f02dxZDx
[02:52] <Bashing-om> vfw: xenial backports "should"  not be a problem as these pacjages are thise approved for use in xenial - and sometimes are fixes .
[02:52] <vfw> Ok
[02:52] <Bashing-om> vfw: But like you I do not have that repo enabled . If it ain't broke do not fix it .
[02:54] <wyth> These are the dependencies errors I'm still getting when trying "sudo apt upgrade" http://termbin.com/vykp
[02:54] <vfw> Bashing-om: Agreed
[02:55] <vfw> wyth: Bashing-om   http://termbin.com/ycmq
[02:55] <Bashing-om> wyth: I see no conflicts there either . so good to go .. as an aside, do not enable "
[02:56] <Bashing-om>  wyth mc3man/trusty-media/ubuntu " as Doug appears not to have caught up yet to xenial . Wait for it  wait .
[02:56] <vfw> Bashing-om: sudo apt install python-minimal
[02:57] <wyth> bashing: http://pastebin.com/EuRL7sUY
[02:58] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt purge gstreamer1.0-clutter |nc termbin.com 9999
[02:58] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/b4wy
[03:01] <vfw> wyth: dpkg --purge gstreamer1.0-clutter libcwidget3 libmutter0c libnux-4.0-0 python zeitgeist-core
[03:02] <Bashing-om> vfw:  ?? is this your output or wyth's " http://termbin.com/ycmq ' If it is wyth's then I do not understand how "python : Depends: python-minimal (= 2.7.5-5ubuntu3)" when the system reports " python-minimal: >> Installed: 2.7.11-1 " ... hummmm .
[03:03] <vfw> Bashing-om: Yea, I dono...  A whole lot of this does not make sense.
[03:03] <vfw> Bashing-om: Maybe he should reboot or...?
[03:03] <athan> Hi everyone, when I `sudo apt-get install -f` to fix a broken package, it fails with an error. I think the download failed (I'm restricted to 150 kb/s) and it's corrupted or something. Is there a way to remove it from my system and start over?
[03:04] <wyth> vfw: http://pastebin.com/5f9YtNXJ
[03:04] <vfw> Oh no.  Not another one... ;(
[03:04] <wyth> lol. sorry
[03:04]  * wyth ducks
[03:04] <athan> it's for libpython3.5-dev :\
[03:04] <wyth> I can give her a reboot if you think it might help
[03:05] <xcyclist> This may be a windows question, but they may not want to answer it.  I've got a new PC and I need to install an ubuntu iso on a usb drive to boot and install Ubuntu.
[03:06] <xcyclist> So, I copy and paste copied in windows, and when I try to boot from this USB pin, the bios just drops it's jaw and does nothing, blocked.
[03:06] <xcyclist> Please advise.
[03:06] <yeats> !usb | xcyclist this may help
[03:07] <vfw> wyth: Let's try sudo apt update one more time and show us the result
[03:07] <xcyclist> Thank you.
[03:07] <wyth> vfw: Sure thing. I went ahead with the reboot anyways, so it'll be just one sec
[03:07] <vfw> wyth: Do you have a second partition for /home/ ?
[03:08] <Bashing-om> wyth: vfw Perhaps a good thing is to clean out the archives , and start again form square one . see what then the package manager advises .
[03:08] <xcyclist> Okay, this is not helping.  I have bios set to boot from usb drive.
[03:08] <athan> xcyclist: Have you used brasero? a .iso file should be burnable to a disk if you use the right program. It's supposed to represent all the partitions and all that for the entire liveCD operating system
[03:08] <xcyclist> I need to know how to copy the iso to the usb pin so it will boot.  I just copied it.
[03:08] <yeats> xcyclist: longer answer is that you have to "burn" the ISO onto the thumb drive - copying it there doesn't do it
[03:08] <yeats> xcyclist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Windows
[03:08] <xcyclist> Ok.
[03:08] <athan> usually you just need to capture it for the boot sequence, but yes, if you want it to always try, set it to the disk drive
[03:09] <wyth> vfw: Shouldn't be a second partition for home, I do have an lvm with all my media and such though
[03:09] <vfw> wyth: So how did apt update go?
[03:10] <vfw> wyth: and then apt -f install
[03:10] <wyth> vfw: sudo apt update: http://termbin.com/mrwc
[03:11] <wyth> vfw: apt -f install: http://pastebin.com/etpxeLaL
[03:11] <vfw> wyth: Was that all of it?
[03:11] <wyth> vfw: this didn't get added to the termbin "keys on reference is experimental at /usr/bin/apt-show-versions line 264.
[03:11] <wyth> keys on reference is experimental at /usr/bin/apt-show-versions line 359."
[03:12] <athan> Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong here? http://lpaste.net/346037
[03:12] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt-get autoremove |nc termbin.com 9999
[03:12] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/4bdo
[03:13] <xangua> Just installed Ubuntu 16.04, then security updates, restarted and now my fonts look too thin :-\
[03:13] <wyth> vfw: This is sudo apt upgrade: http://termbin.com/syti
[03:16] <vfw> wyth: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:17] <wyth> vfw: http://pastebin.com/SGVUmYC3
[03:17] <Bashing-om> wyth: " Depends: python (= 2.7.11-1) but 2.7.5-5ubuntu3 is installed " .. show us ' apt-cache policy python '. See what we can finger out .
[03:17] <athan> :( is this mic on?
[03:18] <wyth> bashing: http://pastebin.com/ypyJEn7D
[03:19] <vfw> wyth: sudo apt upgrade python
[03:20] <Bashing-om> wyth: Uh Huh, there she be that be the culprit .. now as it is python ... we tread lightly . Take a gentle poke at it ' sudo apt install --reinstall python ' .
[03:21] <wyth> bashing: http://pastebin.com/VMNscACN
[03:21] <vfw> wyth: What you probably need to do is just stack up all of the ones you see at http://termbin.com/syti  and use dpkg --purge --force-depends  to remove them.
[03:22] <wyth> vfw: Ok, give me a sec and I'll give it a show
[03:22] <wyth> shot*
[03:23] <vfw> wyth: dpkg --purge --force-depends  libnux-4.0-0 python python-all python-all-dbg python-all-dev python-dbg synaptic zeitgeist-core
[03:23] <vfw> wyth: But first, uname -r
[03:23] <vfw> wyth: what does that say?
[03:24] <wyth> vfw: gives me "3.13.0-96-generic"
[03:24] <wyth> Should I go ahead with the purge you posted right before the uname command?
[03:25] <vfw> wyth: Ok, well, that kernel is not what you should have with Ubuntu 16.04
[03:26] <wyth> ok, so update the kernel first?
[03:29] <ubuntu032> hello, i just came or help here anyone willing to help_
[03:30] <wyth> vfw: Update kernel first? Or purge?
[03:30] <vfw> wyth: So the upgrade from what-ever to 16.04 got interrupted and not sure if it is recoverable.  Yea, if you can, update the kernel, but don't think you even can...
[03:30] <wyth> ok
[03:31] <ubuntu032> i bought a new laptop today and, going to install lubuntu on it. already disablded secure boot but for some weird reason i cannot see the emmc disk when im booting lubuntu live from usb, should i try hirens boot cd to format the emmc disk so i could install  on it or what should i do
[03:31] <ubuntu032> my external hdd and my usb are only ones being listed by gparted
[03:32] <ubuntu032> it is such a shitty laptop and i only bought it for usage of some linux distro pretty much
[03:34] <ubuntu032> there was some clear part on bios which talked about clearing encryption keys or something, the laptop is acer aspire e1  432
[03:35] <vfw> wyth: Your kernel should be 4.4x
[03:35] <wyth> vfw: Oh, I just did a dpkg on a 4.8 kernel
[03:36] <Bashing-om> wyth: vfw Yeah . get the kernel straight . what shows ' dpkg -l | grel linux- ' . so we know what we are shooting for to get the xenial kernel to install .
[03:36] <Bashing-om> grep*
[03:39] <gonliSs> Hi. I Installed LEMP stack (Linux, Nginx, MySQL, and PHP. Then on Namecheap.com I created personal dns server ns1.mydomain.com and ns2.mydomain.com pointing to my server's IP. I created a config file on /etc/nginx/sites-available and shortcut to it on /etc/nginx/sites-enabled. But when I'm trying to access my domain there is an error: mydomain.com’s server DNS address could not be found. What I missed?
[03:40] <wyth> vfw bashing: this is what I've got from uname -r now "4.8.0-040800-generic"
[03:41] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[03:41] <carlyanna> hey guys, can someone help me figure out which distribution would be a good fit for me? i've been running ubuntu and lubuntu on my computer for the past few months now, and i've got to reinstall the system  to make it a 64bit because my last install was the 32bit (long story)...ANYWAY - i have no idea what the different distributions are, like debian fedora, arch linux, etc. Any one prefer one over the other?
[03:41] <khoa> ver
[03:42] <carlyanna> I am truly enjoying learning about these systems and sort of be coming a geek about it. I like to use terminal and learn different commands, etc.. - so is there a specific distribution that may assist me with that?
[03:42] <Bashing-om> wyth: How did you get up on yakety's kernel ? And it is not the more recent .
[03:42] <wyth> Bashing: I copied from a website like an idiot, :P
[03:42] <Kali_Yuga> wyth: any progress?
[03:43] <wyth> bashing: This is the output of the command you gave: http://pastebin.com/YrEeghzH
[03:43] <wyth> Kali: Uhm, sort of? lol
[03:44] <Kali_Yuga> wasn't here, just curious :P
[03:44] <Bashing-om> wyth: Now you may have bitten of more than we can chew as yakety's kernel is not yet supported in xenial install .
[03:44] <wyth> Bashing: I could uninstall it?
[03:46] <carlyanna> maybe if i shorten my question - anyone have input on the best distribution out there ? Fedora, debian, dreamlnux, etc. and why?
[03:47] <Kali_Yuga> carlyanna: you are on an ubuntu channel so I would say ubuntu :D
[03:47] <wyth> bashing: I didn't realize it was not an official kernel, the website just said "Linux kernel 4.8 was released on October 2, 2016"
[03:47] <carlyanna> Kali_Yuga: aren't these all associated with ubuntu?
[03:48] <Kali_Yuga> No
[03:48] <carlyanna> Kali_Yuga: i don't even know what the distributions mean, what are the differences?
[03:48] <carlyanna> anything specific i should know about
[03:49] <wyth> bashing: Should I attempt to uninstall it before doing anything else?
[03:49] <carlyanna> Kali_Yuga: what about the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu, or the various types of linux distributions
[03:49] <Kali_Yuga> they function differently use different programs arch uses pacman instead of apt-get a.e ubuntu is good for beginners. i would even say also good for experts too. but yeah i think you get the best support for ubuntu
[03:50] <carlyanna> ok good for beginners is what i am looking for :)
[03:50] <RtMF> ubuntu can be great for beginners, agreed!  depends on your hardware, of course, but absolutely, if you want to not worry about things, I still recommend *buntu
[03:50] <carlyanna> Kali_Yuga: now what about xubuntu - anything special there? I am definitely trying to stick with what i have learned so far, apt get etc. so you made a good point there
[03:51] <carlyanna> RtMF: thank you ! :D
[03:51] <uxfi> hello carlyanna welcome to Ubuntu
[03:51] <uxfi> :)
[03:51] <uxfi> what are you using Ubuntu for?
[03:51] <uxfi> also hello Kali_Yuga :)
[03:52] <Kali_Yuga> xubuntu is ubuntu using same repos but the GUI is different they use Xfce instead of unity
[03:52] <carlyanna> well my laptop (very old sony) crapped the bed COMPLETELY, so my dad told me to try and boot ubuntu or some other software, and so I taught myself how to create the bootable usb and it's brought my computer back to life :)
[03:52] <uxfi> ah
[03:52] <Bashing-om> wyth: Honestly at this point I do not know . But I do know we want xenial's kernel installed and I do have a idea of how that can be done . As to what results in removing that 4.8 kernel, I just do not know .
[03:52] <uxfi> carlyanna;  how old of an laptop?
[03:52] <carlyanna> now i'm sort of addicted to learning all about it. Also though, I like using chrome and all of the apps - and need to be able to use the flash player for TV :) which i can't update on the ubuntu 32bit
[03:53] <carlyanna> its a sony vaio, probably about 5 years or so
[03:53] <Kali_Yuga> if it's really old Laptop i would use Lubuntu. it's nothing special not many features but very lighweight
[03:53] <Zombie_Ryushu> I would like assistance recompiling an existing DEB to include a Patch from its RPM based counterpart in libgpod/gtkpod+
[03:53] <uxfi> Kali_Yuga;  or Xubuntu
[03:53] <OerHeks> carlyanna, chrome browser on 32 bit?
[03:53] <Zombie_Ryushu> This is a known problem with communicating with legacy iDevices using Amarok.
[03:53] <Kali_Yuga> yeah xubuntu is also very good. has also more features yes
[03:54] <Zombie_Ryushu> Or Clementine.
[03:54] <OerHeks> flash for 32 bit is dead
[03:54] <uxfi> carlyanna; any other plans for the laptop?
[03:54] <uxfi> Facebook and such?
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[03:54] <carlyanna> OerHeks: yes yes it is :(
[03:54] <carlyanna> uxfi: yes! exactly
[03:54] <OerHeks> !spam | RtMF
[03:54] <carlyanna> it is now my main computer
[03:54] <uxfi> carlyanna; oh good
[03:55] <uxfi> carlyanna; did you get my message? jsut tsting out my Uuntu
[03:55] <Zombie_Ryushu> And you can get both Netscape Flash and Pepper Flash  as an independent Download on x86+32 and 64
[03:55] <OerHeks> carlyanna, chrome 32 bit is long gone, nice story though, no flash updates
[03:56] <michaelvipub> jjjjjjjjjjjkkk
[03:57] <xangua> After 16.04 install, security updates and restart, regular fonts are very thin :-( someone having this issue?
[03:58] <carlyanna> OerHeks: yeah thats why i'm rebooting with a 64bit version, wndering which distribution to us
[03:58] <carlyanna> use
[03:58] <carlyanna> from this convo i'm thinking xubuntu would be nice to try out
[03:59] <wyth> bashing: Ok, I'm back at 3.13.0-96-generic. It won't let me do "sudo apt remove 'linux-headers-4.8*' 'linux-image-4.8*'" because of the unmet dependencies though
[03:59] <uxfi> carlyanna; sure give ita whirl
[03:59] <uxfi> give it a whirl
[03:59] <bwlang> ethernet cards work with 3.13, rebooting with 4.4 network appears to come up, packets appear in stats, but I cannot ping the gareway (just a reboot, no config change)
[03:59] <bwlang> bnx2 driver
[03:59] <bwlang> google produces no interesting hits - suggested search terms?
[03:59] <Kali_Yuga> xagua: not with 16.04. but I had very little fonts too. there was some setting. you have to change dpi setting
[04:00] <carlyanna> okay guys well, here goes nothing! going to get unetbootin started and startup fresh with xubuntu
[04:00] <carlyanna> thanks for the help!!
[04:00] <Kali_Yuga> good luck
[04:00] <Bashing-om> !tab | wyth Ekse I can and will meiis your replyes " Bashing-om " to get my attention .
[04:00] <xangua> Kali_Yuga: I think fonts are back to normal
[04:01] <carlyanna> Kali_Yuga: i would install the 16.04 live x64 version right??
[04:01] <xangua> Reset font settings with unit tweak, don't know what happened
[04:01] <wyth> Bashing-om: Sorry, back on the original kernel. Can't apt remove the 4.8 one though because of the unmet dependencies
[04:01] <Bashing-om> wyth: No experience in downgrading a kernel . 'Fraid to go there, as my 1st priority is not to break a system .
[04:02] <wyth> Bashing-om: fair enough. I'm at least booted on the original one now though
[04:03] <Kali_Yuga> idk do you have 64 bit go for that one i guess yes. idk your system. you decide until you find a distro that suits you
[04:03] <Bashing-om> wyth: How did you attempt to remove th 4.8 kernel ?
[04:04] <wyth> Bashing-om: I rebooted, under advanced options chose my previous kernel, and when I was in tried to do "sudo apt remove 'linux-headers-4.8*' 'linux-image-4.8*'" but it wouldn't go through because of the unmet dependencies issues I've been having
[04:04] <khoa> anyone know which server-channel to get ebooks?, i tried IRCHighway and Undernet
[04:04] <carlyanna> Kali_Yuga: i forgot, i think i have to mount the usb drive - not sure how to do that....anyone know?
[04:05] <Kali_Yuga> carlyanna: are you still on windows? on ubuntu i used startup disk creator very simple tool
[04:05] <Kali_Yuga> to make usb?
[04:05] <carlyanna> Kali_Yuga: i have startup disk creator here on ubuntu
[04:05] <carlyanna> how should i go about it?
[04:06] <Kali_Yuga> you wanna make a bootable usb drive with xubuntu am i right?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> wyth: If you accept the risk we can try and remove the 4.8 kernel . But be sure that I am not comfortable ! .. But for sure we MUST get you up on xenial's kernel to effect any repair to python .
[04:06] <carlyanna> yeah, but i use unetbootin cause it downloads everything for me..it just wont recognize the usb disk because im on ubuntu and the usb isn't mounted i dont think
[04:07] <wyth> Bashing-om: I acknowledge and accept, heh
[04:07] <Kali_Yuga> download iso --> md5sum check iso --> use startup disk creator put iso on it --> boot from usb
[04:08] <carlyanna> wow that sounds pretty easy.
[04:08] <carlyanna> if i download that md5sum check iso that will give me 64bit xubuntu?
[04:09] <Bashing-om> wyth: Give me a bit to consider .. as we also want the conflicting quantal sources gone gone too .
[04:09] <Kali_Yuga> no i think you're not getting what i mean
[04:09] <wyth> Bashing-om: For sure
[04:09] <wyth> Bashing-om: Again, I super appreciate you trying to help
[04:10] <carlyanna> Kali_Yuga: hah i probably am not, but i just figured it out in unetbootin so we are good to go!
[04:10] <carlyanna> see you guys on the xubuntu side :)
[04:10] <Kali_Yuga> md5sum is to check if your .iso file is not corrupted
[04:11] <Kali_Yuga> read somewhere https://www.lifewire.com/validate-md5-checksum-file-4037391
[04:12] <Kali_Yuga> before burning or booting from it
[04:14] <Bashing-om> wyth: Let's take a poke and see what happens ' sudo apt remove linux-image-generic-lts-quantal ' . See if we can continue .
[04:16] <wyth> Bashing-om: Same unmet dependencies error. I also reached my pastebin limit
[04:16] <Kali_Yuga> just saves headache in case later on
[04:17] <wyth> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/g38t
[04:19] <Bashing-om> wyth: Ouch .. need to see that output . let's switch to pastebinit . ' sudo apt install pastebin ' then: ' sudo apt remove linux-image-generic-lts-quantal | pastebinit ' .
[04:21] <wyth> Bashing-om: "E: Unable to locate package pastebin"
[04:21] <wyth> Bashing-om: oh, I see it
[04:22] <wyth> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/9oc4 Can't install pastebinit
[04:22] <Bashing-om> wyth: Looks like we are stuck between a rock and a hard place .
[04:23] <vfw> wyth: Bashing-om So just use termbin.com
[04:23] <wyth> Bashing-om: When I run "sudo apt remove linux-image-generic-lts-quantal |nc termbin.com 9999" I get http://termbin.com/b4eb
[04:23] <tarvid> Getting freezes after 2 minutes to two hours on Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu but usually longer as I move right
[04:24] <tarvid> the canary is apparently starving
[04:24] <uxfi> tarvid; hello
[04:24] <tarvid> hi uxfi
[04:24] <vfw> Bashing-om: wyth I've done distribution upgrades many times with no problems, but almost every time I've seen someone on here that had a failure doing one... well, just haven't seen much in the way of recovery.
[04:25] <wyth> vfw: :-X
[04:25] <vfw> wyth: Did you experience a power failure?  Or what?
[04:25] <vfw> wyth: What happend to interrupt the process?
[04:26] <wyth> vfw: Nah, not sure what happened. I didn't realize anything was wrong for a couple weeks when after I rebooted I suddenly didn't have software like transmission working anymore.
[04:26] <Kali_Yuga> stupid question. wouldn't a backup of all files and reinstalling be faster than trying to figure out this problem? no offend to anyone
[04:27] <Kali_Yuga> just time wise
[04:28] <wyth> Kali_Yuga: It seems like that might be what I end up having to do. Not looking forward to having to go through all of that though. Especially nervous about getting my LVM working right if I went that route.
[04:28] <venzen> Kali_Yuga: that might be the best solution, given you had sudden failure of various software packages... did you perhaps make changes to Python before that catastrophic reboot?
[04:29] <wyth> venzen: Not that I recall. And I don't believe it was a catastrophic reboot, just a regular one. It was only after that reboot did I realize some things were not working.
[04:29] <venzen> Kali_Yuga: sorry not your issue, but wyth's
[04:29] <vfw> wyth: Well, you can not interrupt a distribution upgrade in any way.  It must continue until it's finished.  The best thing you can do is backup your personal files and do a fresh install. Just do a backup of /home/wyth/ and do a fresh install with same user name and replace all the files.
[04:30] <Bashing-om> wyth: What results ' sudo apt install linux-generic ' ? Try and find a way to move either forward, backward or even sideways .
[04:30] <wyth> vfw: I'm pretty sure I did not interrupt it at all, it just seems like there were errors during the process I guess
[04:30] <wyth> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/ujy8
[04:31] <vfw> wyth: LVM should not be a problem.
[04:31] <wyth> I feel like the route left is to try purging all of the python as vfw had put it, and then seeing if reinstalling it fixes the apt issues
[04:31] <vfw> wyth: If there were errors, you should have resolved the problems *before* a reboot.
[04:32] <wyth> vfw: You're definitely right
[04:32] <linux205> hey, can anyone help me to install ubuntu on my new laptop? It has emmc flash card, so do i need to format the whole emmc flash drive with something? Because when i boot into ubuntu (with secure boot off) it is not showing the emmc drive at all
[04:32] <Kali_Yuga> yeah. there are probably ways of fixing this. but figuring out all this takes also time. comparing this to a fresh install what would be quicker. i know it's painful but what do you wanna do?
[04:34] <wyth> Kali_Yuga: I'd prefer to try and avoid the fresh install if possible, but I realize it's probably been pretty annoying dealing with me the last couple hours, heh
[04:35] <horsevj> hello
[04:35] <horsevj> hello
[04:36] <linux205> hello horsevj, do you anything about eMMC flash drives since i need to install ubuntu on my new laptop but cannot find a workaround anywhere
[04:36] <horsevj> why do you need eMMC flash drive?
[04:36] <linux205> i do not need that, my laptop has it and i am having difficulties installing ubuntu on it
[04:36] <Kali_Yuga> wyth: not at all, keep trying to fix it. if you get it fixed great. thats just the shotgun solution.
[04:37] <Bashing-om> wyth: Getting more knotty alla the time . see what happens ' sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic ' .
[04:37] <linux205> because the ubuntu live cd is not showing the  eMMC flash drive at all horsevj. so i was thinking do i need to format it with hiren's boot cd or something first?
[04:37] <vfw> wyth: Nothing beats a fresh install.  If done properly it is quicker and easier.  If you have a separate /home/ partition, you can just install and leave it as is, if not, must back-up /home/wyth and replace it when your done.
[04:38] <horsevj> sorry linux205 i dont quite know
[04:39] <horsevj> .bark
[04:39] <doggu> roof
[04:39] <linux205> well im going to try it, yolo
[04:39] <horsevj> okay
[04:40] <Bashing-om> wyth: Purge python. some kind of risky . But what we can do is start at the bottom of the dependcy tree and work our way back up to python . show ' apt-cache depends python ' there are only maybe 3 or 4 packages of concern .
[04:41] <Kali_Yuga> I had problems that i wasn't able to fix. fresh install always did it for me in situations like this
[04:41] <wyth> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/4t68
[04:42] <Kali_Yuga> but i don't have server and i don't know how long it takes on a server to redo everything
[04:42] <Bashing-om> !info python xenial
[04:42] <wyth> vfw: Main concern is that most stuff doesn't appear to be installed to home directory. This server has been frankensteined over many years and it was my first linux machine, so I did a bunch of stuff like a dumbass
[04:43] <wyth> vfw: I know that's all the more reason to start clean, but still seems daunting.
[04:43] <vfw> wyth: No. All personal files will be in the /home/ directory, unless you have other data partitions or directories that you have stored files.  In that case, just make backups of those directories as well.
[04:44] <horsevj> .bark
[04:44] <doggu> roof
[04:45] <vfw> wyth: Applications are not installed in the /home/ directiries and that is not the issue anyway.  All you want to backup are personal files and other files that you want to save.  All of the installed programs are easily replacable.
[04:45] <wyth> vfw: I know for instance some stuff is installed in /opt. Which I could also back up, but I'm not sure what other random crap is in random places too. This server is an old aluminum macbook pro, and I remember just getting the liveusb to show up and work was a major chore the first time I installed it
[04:46] <horsevj> could you just back up home opt etc
[04:46] <horsevj> seems that would be good
[04:46] <Bashing-om> wyth: Houston, we have a problem . python version 2.7 belongs to trusty . We have to install 2.7.11-1 (xenial) But but to do that we have to have xenial's kernel installed . As around and around we go .
[04:47] <wyth> Bashing-om: Oh man.
[04:47] <wyth> Bashing-om: Well, we could install the xenial kernel, I could make sure I boot to that kernel, and hopefully go from there?
[04:48] <vfw> wyth: I don't want to discorage you.  It may be possible to recover.  You will more-than-like have to manually uninstall many apps to get the job done.  Like I said before, just use dpkg purge
[04:48] <wyth> vfw: Right, and I appreciate it all, like you said.  I'm currently on 3.13.0-96-generic
[04:49] <Kali_Yuga> thats 14.04 kernel
[04:50] <Kali_Yuga> thats the one i currently use
[04:50] <Bashing-om> wyth: Wrong ! .. we maybe in good stead for python / try ' sudo apt install --reinstall python2.7 ' . See what the package manager now advises .
[04:51] <vfw> wyth: I don't want to discorage you.  It may be possible to recover.  You will more-than-like have to manually uninstall many apps to get the job done.   dpkg --purge --force-all  <package-names-here>
[04:52] <Bashing-om> wyth: That is an older trusty kernel . I am on trusty :"sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-101-generic" . we want you up on xenial .
[04:52] <vfw> wyth: I think Ubuntu 16.04 starts at 4.4.x
[04:52] <wyth> Bashing-om: I think I thoroughly f'd this all up, I tried to purge the python to reinstall from a while back.
[04:53] <Bashing-om> wyth: Well ..,yeah ! // not good to mess with mother python .  Now I know enough not to break it !
[04:56] <wyth> Bashing-om: this is with the -y, so you can see the full output http://termbin.com/xa47
[04:57] <wyth> Bashing-om: I hear ya. I should've known better than to just upgrade without a much better reason. I was having a problem with something else at the time and thought it might help
[04:59] <Bashing-om> wyth: If it is any consolation to ya .. this " ii  linux-image-generic-lts-quantal  " is the original problem . that we still have to find a means to address .
[05:01] <wyth> Bashing-om: This is the site that I used to install the wrong kernel before, which was pretty easy. If I knew the right version I could do it again? https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-linux-kernel-4-8-ubuntu-16-04-16-10
[05:05] <wyth> Bashing-om: Should I try this verson? http://linuxdaddy.com/blog/install-kernel-4-4-on-ubuntu/
[05:05] <Bashing-om> wyth: Oh .. getting the kernel is not the problem .. it is getting the kernel with the package manager and keeping the package manager happy . // Not to say we will not ' wget ' the kernel and headers if we have too . going to go smoke and think on this . Smoke break !
[05:05] <wyth> Bashing-om: Roger that.
[05:08] <Skei> Morning. Anyone running CUDA ? I seem to have two different driver versions installed and I'm not managing to fix that.
[05:12] <vfw> wyth: The fresh install option is not hard.  Just backup your files.
[05:14] <wyth> vfw: If we're unsuccessful I'm sure that's what I'll be doing tomorrow.   What do you have and where is it?  (What directories?)
[05:19] <wyth> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/oknn
[05:20] <wyth> vfw: it's /media/ all my backups, media, etc
[05:20] <vfw> wyth:  du -sh /media/
[05:22] <wyth> vfw: it's still running :-X
[05:23] <gonliSs> can I get a help with configuring proper vHosts? server DNS address could not be found for my domain all the time
[05:23] <vfw> wyth: We should all have methods for backing up our files.  We should never trust computers not to ever fail.  Having backups is a normal part life as a computer user.
[05:23] <liregirl> Scott Roberts has produced a 10-minute long epic entitled "Aliens?" It's available here: https://youtu.be/m0vFHhKOcII
[05:24] <wyth> vfw: I know, I'm just a dickbag. :(
[05:24] <vfw> wyth: You now have a reason to develop a method.
[05:24] <wyth> vfw: You're definitely right
[05:24] <vfw> wyth: And backing up your data is not hard.
[05:25] <Bashing-om> wyth: How about ' sudo apt install linux-generic=<IP_ADDRESS>.50 ' . If that too fails . I am now all for trying to wget the kernels and headers .
[05:25] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[05:25] <wyth> Bashing-om: Same failure
[05:26] <liregirl> Scott Roberts has produced a 4-minute-long epic entitled "Who's killsing us?" It's available here: https://youtu.be/DhoKe3Y1hSc
[05:26] <OerHeks> !spam | liregirl get lost
[05:26] <liregirl> That is... "Who's killing us?"
[05:27] <liregirl> OerHeks, I love exposing the lying perpetrators.
[05:27] <liregirl> OerHeks, But I realize this ain't the channel.
[05:34] <wyth> vfw: 6.6T    /media/
[05:34] <vfw> wyth: What is mounted in /media/ ?
[05:35] <vfw> wyth: sudo fdisk -l |nc termbin.com 9999
[05:35] <wyth> vfw: The three externals that make up my lvm
[05:35] <vfw> Show me
[05:35] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/a2e8
[05:36] <vfw> wyth: Ok, so you have 3 external drives.  Back up /home/ on a thumb drive.  Unplug the three external drives, re-install and plug them back in.
[05:36] <wyth> vfw: Yeah, sounds like the plan
[05:37] <vfw> wyth: Just install without formatting any of your external drives.
[05:41] <wyth> Well, I guess I'll be spending tomorrow wrangling whatever scripts and config files and whatever else I have strewn about and reinstalling. I don't think I have it in me to do it tonight
[05:42] <wyth> I really appreciate all of the help from you guys though, seriously
[05:47] <Kali_Yuga> :/
[06:33] <fenix> hi does any one aware of HTTP2 protocol? in this how long the connection will be remained open ? when it'll be closed ?
[06:52] <vae> 777
[06:52] <vae> 777
[07:20] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[07:21] <raddy> Xenial comes with mosquitto with websocket support ?
[07:42] <mylisto> Is there a command line I can use to flip a video horizontally?  Not rotation, but flipping.
[07:48] <ricksanchez>  is there a problem with the upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 ?
[07:49] <ricksanchez> I mean like a bug that causes a non-bootable os ?
[08:03] <brotherBox> hi. is it possible to install ubuntu with /boot on the EFI system partition? the setup wont let me choose /boot on ESP
[08:10] <Tahr-user> hi
[08:13] <avgeek> Hello
[08:16] <domino14> how do i upgrade from ubuntu 13.04? it's eol so it won't even connect to the mirrors
[08:16] <domino14> so i can't update
[08:17] <domino14> im tryna update it on digital ocean
[08:18] <brotherBox> domino14: sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:18] <BarnabasDK> ^^^
[08:18] <ricksanchez> hey brotherBox are there any known issues with upgrading from 16.04 to 16.10 that cause the os to not boot
[08:18] <domino14> do-release-upgrade doesn't work
[08:18] <domino14> it tries to download all teh packages and it can't
[08:19] <domino14> because the mirrors are all old / down / whatever
[08:19] <BarnabasDK> domino14, have you selected a mirror site apart from the central ubuntu one?
[08:19] <BarnabasDK> say one in your country
[08:19] <BarnabasDK> if so, try selecting the central one
[08:19] <domino14> how do i select a mirror?
[08:20] <brotherBox> ricksanchez: im not an ubuntu dev or anything but if there are issues you should get an error message
[08:20] <ricksanchez> nope
[08:20] <ricksanchez> it hangs at the ubunt loading screen
[08:20] <ricksanchez> with the dots at the bottom
[08:20] <brotherBox> you might want to press one of the F keys (F1-F7 i think) which should bring up a log of whats happening
[08:21] <BarnabasDK> domino14, for me when i start the application software and updates there is a "download from" drop down
[08:21] <ricksanchez> I tried it appears to be locked up
[08:21] <BarnabasDK> where I selected my country
[08:21] <BarnabasDK> try resetting that to "main server"
[08:22] <domino14> which application software.. i'm on the command line
[08:22] <domino14> it's a vm on digitalocean
[08:23] <brotherBox> have you tried sites like https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[08:24] <BarnabasDK> domino14, then you have to manually edit the source files in /etc/apt
[08:24] <BarnabasDK> then do a sudo apt update and an upgrade
[08:25] <domino14> what do i put in the files
[08:25] <BarnabasDK> if thats an issue maybe you should not be doing serverside upgrades
[08:25] <brotherBox> the output from what that site generates
[08:25] <brotherBox> based on your input
[08:26] <BarnabasDK> to be quite honest
[08:26] <domino14> so just keep this on 13.04 forever?
[08:27] <brotherBox> its not an LTS so thats not a good idea imo
[08:27] <brotherBox> lol
[08:28] <arthur_____O> join #ilico
[08:28] <arthur_____O> ooops
[08:29] <brotherBox> is it possible to install ubuntu with /boot on the EFI system partition? the setup wont let me choose /boot on ESP
[08:45] <mahfiaz> hey, I am trying to install Ubuntu Mate on an Samsung SSD, but right after configuring the first partition installer gets stuck and dmesg shows Enabling discard_zeroes_data message over and over
[08:46] <mahfiaz> any ideas?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: wich ssd type?
[08:47] <mahfiaz> SM841
[08:47] <mahfiaz> lotuspsychje: ^
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: evo? pro?
[08:47] <mahfiaz> lotuspsychje: evo
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: 840? 850?
[08:49] <Ryuken> Hi
[08:49] <mahfiaz> lotuspsychje: sorry, it
[08:49] <mahfiaz> lotuspsychje: sorry, it
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: wich number of evo please?
[08:50] <mahfiaz> lotuspsychje: sorry, it's not evo, it's neiter: http://cdn.shopclues.net/images/detailed/11130/11_1421595111.jpg
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: ah its msata
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: did you check if your bios is changed from IDE to AHCI?
[08:52] <mahfiaz> lotuspsychje: will do
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: also check samsungs website, if firmwares are available for your device
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: wich ubuntu version did you try to install?
[08:54] <mahfiaz> lotuspsychje: it is AHCI
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: ok, thats good turned off secureboot and fastboot also? or you dualboot?
[08:55] <Ryuken> Anyone know how to duplicate with grub customizer?
[08:56] <Ryuken> Like duplicate an option
[08:56] <BarnabasDK> Ryuken, having a second option in the boot list?
[08:56] <mahfiaz> lotuspsychje: Linux Mint 18 is Ubuntu 16.04, I dualboot, will try turning off secure- and fastboot
[08:57] <Ryuken> BarnabasDK: Like creating a duplicate of the same boot option
[08:57] <Ryuken> Say Ubuntu wotih Linux4.4.0 generic and make an exact copy of that
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: im sure, but we cant support mint here, download a vanilla ubuntu and try?
[08:57] <BarnabasDK> Ryuken, the boot def is in /etc/defaults/grub, you can edit that and add all the entries you want
[08:58] <BarnabasDK> Ryuken, do a update-grub as root in order to effectuate
[08:58] <Ryuken> BarnabasDK: Okay, thanks
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> mahfiaz: if samsung website has a new firmware for your ssd, please apply it carefull and you will need a fresh reinstall on it after
[09:01] <joegiampaoli> can you send files directly to another user here on freenode?
[09:02] <mahfiaz> lotuspsychje: my bios has neither options, but will try out the other two suggestions
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> joegiampaoli: dcc send
[09:04] <joegiampaoli> lotuspsychje: That's the command?
[09:05] <joegiampaoli> lotuspsychje: OK, I'm reading about it...thanks...
[09:05] <elodinn> joegiampaoli: it's not, your IRC client probably has it built in though
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> joegiampaoli: your irc client should be able to dcc send to other users
[09:06] <joegiampaoli> elodinn: Oh, OK, so it is possible? That's all I want to know...
[09:06] <elodinn> joegiampaoli: yes
[09:06] <joegiampaoli> elodinn: OK, thanks :)
[09:11] <noka> #bluez
[09:26] <discovered> I am using Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS(Kubuntu) and Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter for WIFI. But the signal is poor
[09:27] <discovered> Is it possible to fix it?
[09:29] <hhee> guys, i have some program, which run from extract archive like eclipse, and in unity panel they have ? icons. can i change icon thre
[09:29] <hhee> there
[09:31] <PurpleSunset> ru?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> !ru | PurpleSunset
[09:33] <PurpleSunset> thx
[09:33] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[09:41] <Snowie> wow, really quiet in here.
[09:41] <unicornjedi> is setting a resolution of something like 768x1360 legal in xorg.conf
[09:41] <unicornjedi> Snowie: not anymore hehe
[09:41] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, so long as your gpu supports it, yes
[09:42] <Snowie> unicornjedi: broke the silence lol
[09:43] <hhee> :)
[09:44] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett: soo I was on #raspberrypi for 6 hours with someone and he was helping me to get my pi to output to a vertical display... I haven't touched xorg.conf yet
[09:44] <unicornjedi> andddd it still doesn't work.
[09:44] <cfhowlett> no experience at all with raspberrry, sorry
[09:44] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett: hopefully editing the xorg.conf file will solve the problem :( thanks for answering my question
[09:45] <cfhowlett> best of luck unicornjedi
[09:45] <unicornjedi> :'( you can drink my tears, I have too much
[09:45] <unicornjedi> drink up buddy
[09:46]  * BarnabasDK hurl
[09:47] <Snowie> unicornjedi: i think it might be rotate, not resolution, in xorg
[09:48] <unicornjedi> Snowie: so what would the code look like?
[09:49] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[09:49] <Snowie> ftp://www.x.org/pub/X11R7.5/doc/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.html
[09:50] <Snowie> unicornjedi: rotate left?
[09:51] <unicornjedi> whoooa thats a lot to rea
[09:51] <unicornjedi> *read
[09:52] <Snowie> unicornjedi: looks like you just add rotate left or rotate right in the same playce you were going to add the resolution.
[09:53] <unicornjedi> Snowie: I hhope it works. its 5am here, I didn't know rotating a screen on rpi was such a challenge
[09:54] <Snowie> unicornjedi: what OS?
[09:55] <unicornjedi> snowie, openelec. on rpi or laptop... it just sucks at vertical resolutions
[10:13] <deniz> how can install gnome on ubuntu mate?
[10:13] <deniz> how to*
[10:14] <cfhowlett> !gnome | deniz
[10:42] <halpme> hi, is this a sata 2 or sata 3? http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_spinpoint_m9t_hard_drive_review
[10:43] <kubast2> Hey
[10:43] <kubast2> how can I for loop files in a directory
[10:43] <kubast2> when they have a space in the name
[10:43] <kubast2> so it doesn't do
[10:43] <kubast2> Track
[10:43] <kubast2> 1.wav
[10:43] <kubast2> etc.
[10:43] <kubast2> ?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> kubast2, stop using enter>
[10:44] <brotherBox> in general, using -print0 options will help here
[10:45] <brotherBox> is it possible to install ubuntu with /boot on the EFI system partition? the setup wont let me choose /boot on ESP
[10:45] <kubast2> brotherBox: -print0 ? at ls or in the for ?
[10:45] <kubast2> for files in $(ls); do ffmpeg -i "$files" -codec:a libmp3lame -qscale:a 0 "CD1/$files.mp3"; done
[10:46] <kubast2> $(ls -print0) or for files in $(ls) -print0; ?
[10:47] <kubast2> ah
[10:47] <kubast2> -Q
[10:48] <kubast2> nah still does
[10:48] <kubast2> "Track
[10:48] <kubast2> 1.wav"
[11:00] <ducasse> Kingsy: the module might not be registered for that device id, in which case it won't be loaded automaticallyååååååååååååååååååååååååååååååååååååååååååååååe*
[11:00] <ducasse> gtfr
[11:01] <cfhowlett> stop spilling your mountain dew on the keyboard so your keys don't stick
[11:01] <ducasse> cfhowlett: that was the cat :)
[11:02] <cfhowlett> ... uh huh.  the "cat".  riiiiiiiiight.       P)
[11:02] <Noti> I've updated to 16.04 from 15.10 and I've been screwed. I have no networking, no graphic and who knows what else.
[11:07] <door> hello?
[11:08] <door> is worth to upgrade ubuntu from 16.04 to 16.10?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> door, 16.04 is LTS.  16.10 is not.  absent a serious need for the latest greatest shiny stuff, I'd say LTS only is the way to go.  Far fewer headaches that way.
[11:09] <door> okay, thanks
[11:10] <fub> Hi. I am currently moving my linux installation to a different partition from this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition)
[11:10] <fub> I'm now at the step 6.2 (Run grub setup for new partition )
[11:10] <fub> in my /mnt/sda5/usr/lib/grub/ I have one folder (i386-pc) and a file (grb-mkconfig_lib)
[11:11] <fub> Why one should I choose? I dont get what [instance] means
[11:17] <fub> Okay, I read I should specifiy the plattform here. I did (i386-pc), and now I get:
[11:17] <fub> grub-install: error: failed to get canoncial path of '/cow'
[11:20] <fub> Should I try a "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/sda5 /dev/sda5 ?
[11:34] <BeLeKy> !help
[11:34] <fub> BeLeKy: was that related to my question?
[11:34] <fub> I dont see where I ask to ask
[11:35] <BeLeKy> mean?
[11:35] <fub> What?
[11:35] <BeLeKy> fub bot?
[11:35] <fub> no, I'm not
[11:35] <BeLeKy> oh sorry
[11:35] <bazhang> BeLeKy, did you have an ubuntu support question
[11:35] <BeLeKy> fub staff?
[11:36] <BeLeKy> what a quest
[11:36] <bazhang> #freenode for staff help BeLeKy
[11:39] <BeLeKy> bazhang i need staff
[11:40] <bazhang> BeLeKy, then stop asking here in #ubuntu
[11:40] <BeLeKy> im not understand
[11:41] <Kingsy> does anyone know what application I can use for selecting and conecting to wifi via tty
[11:41] <bazhang> BeLeKy, this is ubuntu support only, for help with freenode and staff ask in #freenode NOT here
[11:41] <BeLeKy> im conected from wifi
[11:42] <bazhang> kingsy network manager has a cli
[11:42] <Kingsy> on arch linux there was a wifi-menu which was handy... obviously dhclient won't work because I need to authenticate with a network
[11:42] <Kingsy> bazhang: what is the binary called?
[11:42] <brotherBox> is it possible to install ubuntu with /boot on the EFI system partition? the setup wont let me choose /boot on ESP
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:44] <Kingsy> bazhang: hrm, networkctl says that systemd-networkd is not running. I guess I have not set my network up properly? is networkd required?
[11:45] <Kingsy> Hey BluesKaj :)
[11:45] <bazhang> not sure about that Kingsy
[11:45] <fub> okay, solved my problem
[11:45] <Kingsy> no problem :D
[11:45] <fub> so what is a good size for a system partition? I want to split up in system and in /home
[11:45] <fub> around 20G ?
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hi Kingsy
[11:46] <Kingsy> fub: I was thinking about that the other day. I went for 40GB on this installation, but that might be overkill
[11:47] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: what client do you use for authenticating a wifi connection?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> yeah 15Gb is plenty for the / partition
[11:48] <Kingsy> damn, so I have massively over compensated
[11:48] <Kingsy> tbh I have this problem with my swap partition so I might reinstall....
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Kingsy, network-manager
[11:50] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: thanks, question, if I am using dhclient to connect via ethernet will installing network-manager render that method obsolete?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> it's not a client Kingsy, it's the default application for wifi and ethernet on ubuntu
[11:51] <Kingsy> oh, umm sorry for misunderstanding. So, I don't need dhclient anymore?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Kingsy, in a word no, dhclient works with network-manager, unless of course you don't use NM and use the /etc/network/interfaces file for configuring your connection
[11:53] <Kingsy> what I mean is.. right now I guess by default I have the interfaces configured in /etc/netowrk/interfaces.. so its configured with inconfig up and down etc... do I need to change my interfaces file so network-manager handles the interfaces?
[11:53] <Kingsy> oh ok, so how do i choose? Is there a line I can isnert into network/interfaces ?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> !dhclient
[11:54] <BluesKaj> !info dhclient
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Kingsy, http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/dhclient8.html
[11:56] <Kingsy> hrm I don't have a DE yet or browser so I cant read that.
[11:56] <Kingsy> I'll grab my phone
[11:56] <Kingsy> just reading about netowkr-manager now.
[11:58] <Kingsy> I looks to me like its heavily geared to a GUI, and there isnt much information on getting wifi working or it working at all through a cli
[12:02] <Kingsy> alright, after a reboot its connected to the internet so I guess its using network manager now.. I would love to know how to check tho :S
[12:06] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-cache policy netwwork-manager, Kingsy
[12:09] <Kingsy> cheers
[12:11] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: that just shows that I have the package installed. or thats what it looks like
[12:11] <BluesKaj> oops only one w in network
[12:11] <BluesKaj> it's installed by default
[12:13] <BluesKaj> it's installed on yur system unless you remove it with apt or the package manager
[12:19] <twoleds> is there a console tool for obtaining RGB color of screen pixel?
[12:25] <Apachez> screen reader in ubuntu is scary shit... was cleaning and had done some accidental keycombo... had a little bit of a jump when the computer started to speak to me when moving the mouse cursor =)
[12:34] <anpan> Hi, I hope someone can help me here, because I'm at my wits end. Using 16.04 for a few months now and was happy until yesterday: following an upgrade yesterday, I can only boot ubuntu if I set "nomodeset" as a kernel option. Otherwise the screen will stay black without fail. With "nomodeset" set, I can only see one screen (out of three) and the system menus and text are too tiny to read
[12:35] <anpan> using the radeon driver that comes with ubuntu
[12:36] <anpan> Logs only seem to be available from times when I boot with nomodeset kernel option. In that case, it says that there is no UMS support for the card
[12:36] <Ben64> try an older kernel
[12:36] <anpan> already tried, no difference
[12:37] <Ben64> then it probably wasn't the upgrade
[12:37] <anpan> grub only offers me two kernel versions though
[12:37] <Ben64> that's not normal
[12:38] <anpan> the upgrade didn't upgrade the kernel as far as I can tell
[12:38] <Ben64> well thats where the driver comes from
[12:38] <anpan> let me check again, one moment
[12:39] <anpan> (i have to do this in console mode because the terminal in the graphics mode is unreadable because small)
[12:42] <anpan> http://pastebin.com/uZbrvVeE thats the upgrade that happened yesterday (or rather, this morning)
[12:42] <anpan> right after that, I simply shut down the computer and found I cant boot anymore today
[12:43] <Frjd> Is laptop-mode-tools needed on modern Ubuntu?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> Frjd, doubt that it would hurt.  also see TLP
[12:46] <Frjd> cfhowlett: TLP?
[12:46] <AAA_xyi> kek
[12:46] <anpan> so, any suggestions what I can do to find out what the problem is? I don't even know where to look anymore
[12:47] <AAA_xyi> SOSI PISOS
[12:47] <AAA_xyi> SOSI PISOS
[12:47] <AAA_xyi> idi naxyi, sam pisodr
[12:59] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[13:00] <OnkelTem> Do you know how to install/find network manager applet? I'm on KDE but w/o Plasma
[13:00] <OnkelTem> I need to run network connection somehow
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !tlp | frj
[13:00] <OnkelTem> I could manage to add a connection with `nm-connection-editor`
[13:01] <motexx> Hi please help.
[13:01] <motexx> I installed the Intel Graphics updater from Intel, it broke my network entirely, theres no devices in networkmanager.
[13:01] <motexx> The driver wouldn't run because of missing lib of kinds, so i unistalled it, but my network are still broken. I'm typing this from a live session.
[13:01] <motexx> lspci lists the network devices ok, but the system doesn't see them. I tried starting up on older kernels but the doesn't help so i guess it above kernel level.
[13:01] <motexx> Are there something i can reinstall, or otherwise do to get it running again?
[13:04] <melleb> Hi all, does anyone know how to install dspam on ubuntu 16.04? Every tutorial I find mentions it should be a simple apt command, but the package is not found. Has it been removed/renamed or something?
[13:06] <tozen> melleb: try to change server to Central the apt update
[13:06] <tozen> *then
[13:08] <brainwash> melleb: it was removed in debian, and therefore in ubuntu too
[13:08] <ioria> !info dspam trusty
[13:08] <ioria> !info dspam
[13:08] <brainwash> melleb: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754810
[13:08] <ioria> melleb, only for trusty
[13:09] <melleb> Ah, ok
[13:09] <melleb> thanks all
[13:10] <melleb> I guess it's best to move to spamassassin then :)
[13:10] <ioria> yup
[13:33] <Vivek> When I am trying an apt-get upgrade I am getting the following error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23537512/
[13:34] <Vivek> Due to this error, I am not able to install any new packages or upgrade the system.
[13:35] <anpan> Vivek: your /boot is probably full. Try removing old kernels installed there (i believe apt-get autoremove should do this)
[13:36] <Vivek> anpan: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23537524/
[13:37] <anpan> and if you use -f?
[13:38] <anpan> Might fail because /boot, again, is full though
[13:38] <anpan> If I remember correctly, there was a guide to manually remove old kernels somewhere, let me take a look
[13:40] <kbob> hello, in ubuntu 16.10 I would like to run a script like root at startup. Do I must create a service? to run a script?
[13:40] <Vivek> anpan: Thanks
[13:41] <anpan> Vivek: http://askubuntu.com/questions/263363/how-can-i-remove-old-kernels-install-new-ones-when-boot-is-full
[13:41] <Vivek> anpan: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23537545/
[13:44] <anpan> Vivek: the first answer in my link should fix your problem. Make sure you don't remove your current kernel though
[13:44] <FinalX> Vivek: df -h
[13:44] <FinalX> see which is at 100%
[13:45] <FinalX> because in that paste I clearly see "gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[13:45] <cfhowlett> Vivek, best practice: keep the 2 most recent
[13:45] <FinalX> or once in a while just do apt-get autoremove --purge
[13:45] <FinalX> and apt-get autoclean
[13:47] <anpan> What FinalX said definitely works. But once you run into dependency problems because /boot is full, you cant use that method anymore (at least when I ran into the problem, it didn't)
[13:48] <Vivek> ChkDigit: That is what I am doing now.
[13:49] <brelod> hey guys! do you know if its posible to use fbi to watch images in text browser (elinks) running inside of screen session? (err msg = ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Inappropriate ioctl for device (not a linux console?)) It works perfectly if i run the browser without screen session
[13:50] <Vivek> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23537585/
[13:50] <kbob> brelod: install fmi
[13:50] <kbob> maybe is fim
[13:50] <Vivek> anpan,FinalX,cfhowlett: It is still going on :)
[13:51] <Vivek> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-34-generic
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Vivek, really should not take that long!
[13:51] <Vivek> Waiting patiently :)
[13:51] <anpan> usually takes 10 seconds or so for me
[13:52] <cfhowlett> note that you can also do a manual process:  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058377&s=eaf2e645238b823b3f49566b6cd4a75c&p=12240745#post12240745
[13:53] <anpan> I think that was the post that helped me when I had the problem.
[13:53] <brelod> kbob: thx i'll try it
[13:54] <Vivek> anpan,FinalX,cfhowlett: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23537597/
[13:55] <ilmaisin> hi
[13:55] <ilmaisin> how to prevent ubuntu from deleting logs on reboot
[14:04] <Vivek> anpan,FinalX,cfhowlett: Looks like the issue is resolved.
[14:04] <Vivek> Thanks
[14:04] <anpan> Vivek: you're welcome
[14:05] <cfhowlett> Vivek, happy2help!  don't forget to perform regular maintenance
[14:05] <anpan> So, anyone have any ideas why I can only boot with "nomodeset" kernel option? Something is wrong with the radeon driver, but i can't find out why (it worked yesterday). Older kernel doesnt work
[14:06] <Vivek> cfhowlett: Sure.
[14:06] <Vivek> Wondering if I should myself hang around here and help.
[14:06] <cfhowlett> Vivek, it's a surprisingly effective way to learn Ubuntu IMHO
[14:07] <Vivek> cfhowlett: yea, been using Ubuntu from the very first release :)
[14:09] <anpan> I guess I'll lie down and hope someone answers on stackexchange in the next few hours. I'm sick anyway.
[14:09] <pinkisntwell> I changed my /etc/network/interfaces to "iface enp0s10 inet static" but the old IP address that I had via dhcp still shows up when I do "ip a"
[14:09] <pinkisntwell> and when I do "ifconfig" only that old address shows up
[14:09] <pinkisntwell> what's happening?
[14:10] <ducasse> pinkisntwell: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[14:11] <pinkisntwell> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/LvVn4yae
[14:13] <ducasse> pinkisntwell: if you do 'sudo ifdown enp0s10 && sudo ifup enp0s10', do you get the new address then?
[14:13] <pinkisntwell> ducasse: I tried "sudo service networking restart", is that not good enough?
[14:13] <ducasse> pinkisntwell: i'm not sure exactly what that does, so try.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> pinkisntwell, remove
[14:14] <BluesKaj> auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[14:14] <ducasse> no, loopback should be there
[14:14] <BluesKaj> don't need it
[14:15] <pinkisntwell> I just tried ifdown and ifup and nothing changed on ifconfig
[14:15] <SexyFail> Hey guys, I'm quite new to Ubuntu. (#ubuntu-beginners is invite only) I have a VPS that I am trying to install a teamspeak3 client on without a GUI, but I'm running into some problems.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> ducasse, I don't have loopback in my interfaces file , and it works perfectly
[14:17] <ducasse> BluesKaj: sure, you can get by without, i just don't see a reason to remove it
[14:17] <BluesKaj> ducasse, no network-manager
[14:17] <lostinspace> hi how do i chroot and create a new system inside a system for example running ubuntuserver inside ubuntu desktop
[14:18] <ducasse> lostinspace: debootstrap, or use lxc/lxd
[14:18] <pinkisntwell> ducasse: I just tried ifdown and ifup and nothing changed on ifconfig
[14:19] <lostinspace> don't have lxc/lxd
[14:21] <lostinspace> How to install ubuntu on X86 android
[14:23] <lostinspace> How to install ubuntu on X86 android
[14:23] <ducasse> lostinspace: ask #android
[14:23] <ducasse> pinkisntwell: kill dhclient if it is still running
[14:25] <fiter> hi
[14:25] <fiter> anybody here?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu questions fiter
[14:26] <jack> hi i have question can  I ask here ?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !ask | jack
[14:26] <brotherBox> is it possible to install ubuntu with /boot on the EFI system partition? the setup wont let me choose /boot on ESP
[14:26] <jack> searchsploit allow me search exploit which I have installed. but If i want to update my DB same as exploit Db (website). what should I do ?>
[14:27] <ducasse> brotherBox: no, the installer isn't set up for that. you _might_ be able to hack it after install, though.
[14:28] <brotherBox> ducasse: how not? i hear that putting /boot on ESP is common and even advised sometimes
[14:29] <ducasse> brotherBox: i just told you, the installer is not set up for it.
[14:29] <brotherBox> ducasse: is that for any particular reason?
[14:29] <ducasse> brotherBox: ask the installer team.
[14:29] <brotherBox> because "nope doesnt work" is something i'd expect from windows
[14:30] <brotherBox> how could such a hack look like?
[14:30] <brotherBox> would i need anything besides the kernel and initramfs on ESP?
[14:30] <ducasse> brotherBox: it's completely unsupported, but try if you feel like it.
[14:30] <brotherBox> well thats great
[14:32] <SexyFail> I am trying to install teamspeak3 client on a VPS with no KVM (TS3 client requres a GUI). I have tried vncserver, screen, and xinit. I am running into errors with every attempt.
[14:32] <brotherBox> ducasse: where could i talk to the installer team?
[14:32] <ducasse> brotherBox: you'd need to install grub to a different path than the default, other than that i can't think of anything major.
[14:32] <brotherBox> are they on IRC?
[14:32] <ducasse> brotherBox: check their launcpad page.
[14:32] <brotherBox> lol launchpad
[14:37] <nat> \nick Natkeeran
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !nick | nat
[14:38] <fub> So when I hol a key pressed, it needs about a second until the keypress is sent continually, how can I shorten this delay?
[14:40] <ducasse> fub: see the xset man page, under the 'r' option
[14:43] <fub> ducasse: is it possible to show the current value of rate?
[14:43] <ducasse> fub: 'xset q'
[14:44] <SexyFail> I am trying to install teamspeak3 client on a VPS with no KVM (TS3 client requres a GUI). I have tried vncserver, screen, and xinit. I am running into errors with every attempt.
[14:44] <fub> ducasse: awesome. where do I put this to be persistent on reboot? In my /etc/rc.local?
[14:44] <iamrohit7> what is the most lightweight ubuntu variant other than lxde?
[14:44] <jatt> xfce
[14:44] <fub> jatt: thats a display manager as far as I remember
[14:45] <ducasse> fub: no, x isn't up yet at that point. try ~/.xsessionrc
[14:45] <cfhowlett> iamrohit7, lxde is a Desktop environment, not a variant.  lubuntu and xubuntu are lightweight
[14:45] <jatt> lxde is a display manager
[14:45] <iamrohit7> cfhowlett: i meant lubuntu
[14:45] <fub> jatt: yeah, but I think he is looking for a variant
[14:46] <stoned> I went to my GF house
[14:46] <stoned> I downloaded Ubuntu latest
[14:46]  * stoned is on open free wifi, horrible speeds.
[14:47] <vfw> iamrohit7: lubuntu is probably as light as it gets.
[14:47] <stoned> I am going from Debian stable to Ubuntu latest. I wonder if I can just import my /home over and install the new os and that's it?
[14:47] <stoned> I also want to xfer over my settings from /etc
[14:47] <cfhowlett> stoned, no.
[14:47] <vfw> stoned: Do you have /home/ on a separate partition?
[14:47] <stoned> Yessir
[14:47] <stoned> always sep.
[14:48] <stoned> I'm just trying to see if any new versions of software will conflict w/ debian stables config
[14:48] <stoned> right now, my /home is populated w/ config files from all th edebian stable software (fairly old)
[14:48] <stoned> usually new software has updated configs and maybe diff config locations probably
[14:49] <stoned> I have a free partition, I can intall ubuntu there, and mount /home from debian as /home in ubuntu
[14:49] <iamrohit7> vfw: can i install it over my current ubuntu install? without redoing everything from scratch
[14:49] <cfhowlett> stoned, choose one.  debian or ubuntu.  mixing repos is likely to cause pain
[14:49] <vfw> stoned: If you have /home/ on a separate partition, you can just tell the installer to leave that partition, (do not format it), and use same user name.
[14:49] <stoned> I'm wiping debian away
[14:50] <stoned> http://cdn.stoned.io/debian/screenshots/debian-8.2-xmonad-09-01-2016.jpg
[14:50] <stoned> here's my debian desktop
[14:50] <ducasse> stoned: frankly, i'd move the config over one program at a time to check for issues
[14:50] <stoned> I only need minimal apps. Only reason I'm using ubuntu is if I might need new software tht's not in debian stable.
[14:50] <vfw> iamrohit7: All of your personal data can remain or be replaced, but all of the applications will be replaced by new ones.
[14:50] <stoned> ducasse: ohhh
[14:50] <stoned> ducasse: that's a very sane advice. thank you
[14:51] <vfw> iamrohit7: What is your original issue?
[14:51] <vfw> iamrohit7: *(What are you working on?)*
[14:51] <stoned> Ubuntu + Xmonad + Xorg + all my cli apps/tools. Only thing I need from GUI is Konqueror, open office, smplayer/smtube and chrome. Nothign else gui
[14:52] <vfw> stoned: Even if packages are not in debian stable, you can still get them.
[14:52] <stoned> library versions are old too
[14:52] <stoned> can't compile from source a lot of new things.
[14:52] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[14:52] <stoned> ABI incompat
[14:53] <vfw> stoned: ... not trying to talk you out of installing ubuntu just making the statement ....
[14:53] <raddy> How can i get libwebsockets3 in ubuntu 16 ???
[14:53] <raddy> Very frustrating
[14:53] <stoned> vfw: *nod*
[14:53] <stoned> ty
[14:53] <iamrohit7> vfw: my system boots in a little less than 5 min. i have a programming job in which i need to compile some stuff which takes up the whole RAM. right now ubuntu takes up 1.5gigs with firefox running and i can make it down to half of it, it would certainly help.
[14:54] <cfhowlett> iamrohit7, lubuntu or drop to the cli
[14:54] <cfhowlett> and, of course, kill ffox
[14:54] <vfw> iamrohit7: What Desktop Environment are you using now?
[14:54] <iamrohit7> vfw: unity
[14:54] <vfw> iamrohit7: Oh yes, you can do better.
[14:54] <SexyFail>  I am trying to install a program on a VPS with no KVM (it requres a GUI). I have tried vncserver, screen, and xinit. I am running into errors with every attempt.
[14:55] <iamrohit7> cfhowlett: firefox isn't the problem. the heavy memory usage since 16.04 is
[14:55] <vfw> iamrohit7: You can just install xubuntu-desktop
[14:55] <vfw> iamrohit7: or just xfce4
[14:55] <cfhowlett> and ffox is a hungry best
[14:55] <cfhowlett> beast
[14:56] <vfw> iamrohit7: or lxde
[14:56] <iamrohit7> vfw: tried it. that would just mess up the whole ui consistency. instead i could just reinstall xubuntu over ubuntu
[14:56] <vfw> iamrohit7: You don't have to re-install the OS
[14:56] <raddy> Where can we get libwebsocket
[14:56] <fub> SexyFail: define "running into errors with every attempt"
[14:56] <cfhowlett> iamrohit7, sudo apt install lxde xfce4           then logout, choose your session and login
[14:56] <vfw> iamrohit7: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:56] <iamrohit7> vfw: 16.10
[14:57] <vfw> !info lubuntu-desktop | iamrohit7
[14:57] <iamrohit7> cfhowlett: i know but it doesn't look nice.
[14:57] <fub> iamrohit7: you can also isntall htop and run it to see which process is taking all the RAM
[14:58] <cfhowlett> iamrohit7, since you already mentioned a limited and slow system, best option is to drop to the terminal for max ram
[14:58] <SexyFail> fub: Qt: couldn't retrieve an initial keyboard state. XIO: fatal IO error 2 (no such file or directory on X server ":1.0"
[14:59] <SexyFail> fub: this would be running through vncserver
[14:59] <ars23> Hi guys!
[15:00] <iamrohit7> cfhowlett: you mean a tty?
[15:01] <cfhowlett> yep.
[15:06] <iamrohit7> how much RAM does xubuntu fill up?
[15:07] <iamrohit7> without anything running
[15:07] <jatt> 400k
[15:07] <jatt> between 400k and 500k
[15:08] <iamrohit7> jatt: k?
[15:08] <jatt> M
[15:09] <jatt> xfdesktop takes 600MB virtual memory on my machine
[15:12] <iamrohit7> jatt: ah. thanks.
[15:13] <ducasse> iamrohit7: you could also just install a basic wm, log into that and do the work, then log back into unity.
[15:14] <iamrohit7> ducasse: i3 comes to mind.
[15:14] <ducasse> iamrohit7: that's what i use.
[15:19] <SexyFail>  I am trying to install a program on a VPS with no KVM (it requres a GUI). I have tried vncserver, screen, and xinit. I am running into errors with every attempt. (Such as Qt: couldn't retrieve an initial keyboard state. XIO: fatal IO error 2 (no such file or directory) on X server ":1.0") <- through vncserver
[15:20] <ducasse> SexyFail: are you connecting from an ubuntu mmachine?
[15:21] <SexyFail> ducasse: through both a VNC viewer on Windows and Screenshare on OSX
[15:22] <ducasse> SexyFail: os x has an x server, just connect via ssh and display locally
[15:23] <SexyFail> ducasse: I'm still quite new to linux. once connect to the ssh what is the command to display locally? is this still through vncserver?
[15:25] <ducasse> SexyFail: just connect with ssh -X and run whatever program, no need for vnc. make sure the osx x server is active first, though, and it should just work.
[15:25] <SexyFail> ducasse: okay I will try this out, thank you!
[15:30] <Guest29913> guys, could anyone recommend a music player for old console file sounds?deabeef works great but there are formats it doesn't support, like gsf
[15:32] <cfhowlett> vlc is the swiss army knife of players
[15:32] <hitman_> hi
[15:33] <hitman_> u945
[15:33] <constl> Hello, is it possible to trace which configuration file/app is setting specifics environmental variables?
[15:34] <jatt> in a shell script? run with -x
[15:36] <Guest29913> not for console music files, however
[15:37] <ducasse> Guest29913: you might be able to convetr them with sox
[15:37] <Guest29913> I'd rather maintain them as they are rather than converting them
[15:37] <SexyFail> ducasse: on osx getting error QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display, when running the app script
[15:38] <SexyFail> ducasse: connected via ssh -X us@ip
[15:38] <ducasse> SexyFail: that sounds like the x server is not running
[15:39] <Guest29913> it also doesn't support gsf, either
[15:41] <BluesKaj> game boy music files , not many music players in linux will play them, Guest29913, think you should take ducasse's advice and convert with sox if possible
[15:41] <SexyFail> ducasse: in the sshd_config I have X11Forwarding yes. is there another config file/command I am missing?
[15:41] <Guest29913> as I already said, sox doesn't even support it
[15:42] <ducasse> SexyFail: os x needs to have the x server running
[15:43] <ducasse> Guest29913: for something so utterly obscure, you might have better luck asking in an emu-related channel
[15:43] <vfw> Guest29913: mpg123
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Guest29913, well then your probly asking the impossible
[15:44] <vfw> !info mpg123 | Guest29913
[15:45] <vfw> Guest29913: What kind of audio format are you trying to play?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> vfw, he wants to play gsf files/gameboy music files
[15:47] <Guest29913> gsf. and it is not impossible as I've found a program that plays it, but it is console only
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Guest29913, what program is that ?
[15:48] <Guest29913> http://projects.raphnet.net/#playgsf
[15:55] <amikrop> When I drag n drop an mp3 from a window to audacious' playlist, focus is lost from audacious and the playlist disapears, making it difficult to do the task. This doesn't happen eg on Windows and Winamp... Any workarounds?
[16:02] <Darkpainy> hello lonely people
[16:04] <mais369> KLJ
[16:04] <mais369> KJL
[16:08] <mais369> HI
[16:08] <Hounddog_> Good evening
[16:09] <Sean_McG> Sat Nov 26 11:09:03 EST 2016
[16:09] <Hounddog_> I am trzing to restore this laptop and am somehow failing to repair the mbr i just used boot-repair http://paste2.org/4xj4YIxY all i get when restarting though i grub rescue
[16:11] <Sean_McG> is your BIOS/UEFI settings protecting the MBR?
[16:11] <Hounddog_> Sean_McG: nope
[16:12] <LOLROFL86> anyone?
[16:12] <LOLROFL86> lel
[16:13] <Hounddog_> all i am trying is to remove ubuntu and restore windows....
[16:14] <Hounddog_> at least for this laptop...
[16:14] <LOLROFL86> Hounddog: Can you switch between Ubuntu Gnome and Ubuntu Unity?
[16:15] <LOLROFL86> lol
[16:15] <LOLROFL86> refl
[16:15] <LOLROFL86> rofl
[16:15] <Hounddog_> um, currently i am just running ubuntu life
[16:15] <Hounddog_> live cd i meaa
[16:15] <Hounddog_> live cd i mean
[16:15] <LOLROFL86> What is Ubuntu Life?
[16:15] <Hounddog_> if you just want to troll, please stop it
[16:16] <LOLROFL86> I am not trolling, I am only 10 years old
[16:17] <Sean_McG> Hounddog_: if all you want is to boot Windows then presumably you just need to boot with your Windows CD and go into it's rescue mode and I would be very surprised if there wasn't a tool to fix the MBR there
[16:18] <Hounddog_> Sean_McG: i have no windows cd, as i purchased the laptop there was non but a recovery partition
[16:18] <Sean_McG> BLEH.
[16:18] <Hounddog_> yep...
[16:18] <Sean_McG> I don't know how to help then.
[16:18] <LOLROFL86> BRUH
[16:18] <LOLROFL86> BREH
[16:18] <LOLROFL86> fsd
[16:18] <LOLROFL86> fushdi
[16:19] <SexyFail> ducasse: I was finally able to launch the GUI through XQuartz. Now it just doesn't register my keyboard strokes on the GUI, but this is the farthest I've ever come with this. Thank you so much
[16:20] <ducasse> SexyFail: ok, good luck. don't know about the keystrokes, maybe an osx channel can help.
[16:20] <Hounddog_> Sean_McG: i think i am going to reinstall grub and set timeout to 0...
[16:20] <LOLROFL86> I just want to download Ubuntu Unity 16.04 LTS onto my Raspberry Pi 3
[16:20] <LOLROFL86> Any ideas?
[16:21] <LOLROFL86>
[16:21] <LOLROFL86> ????
[16:21] <LOLROFL86>
[16:22] <LOLROFL86> bye
[16:24] <xangua> LOLROFL86: why not something like Lubuntu or xubuntu?
[16:31] <juan_> saludo  necesito ayuda tengo ubuntu 16.04 teclado en ingles pero mi hija esta escribiendo algo en espanol necesita la letra elle
[16:31] <cfhowlett> !es | juan_
[16:31] <EriC^^> !es | juan_
[16:31] <roomerre> hello
[16:32] <roomerre> i did set default grub to 0 but still get grub for a split second?
[16:32] <juan_> ok thank have problems with some letters that we use in spanish can fine
[16:32] <EriC^^> roomerre: GRUB_DEFAULT_TIMEOUT ?
[16:34] <roomerre> GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 the first or secon line
[16:35] <D4n1u5> hello
[16:35] <EriC^^> roomerre: try setting GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[16:35] <D4n1u5> im gay
[16:35] <D4n1u5> lol
[16:35] <EriC^^> roomerre: or =1
[16:35] <cfhowlett> D4n1u5, we don't care.  go play somewhere else
[16:35] <cfhowlett> !ops | D4n1u5
[16:35] <EriC^^> roomerre: nevermind the =0 try =1
[16:36] <EriC^^> with GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[16:36] <D4n1u5> im not speacking english because im italian
[16:36] <roomerre> which manual should i read to know meaning of GRUB_etc options ?
[16:36] <roomerre> there are several and their meaning subtle
[16:36] <fhikmawan> hi
[16:36] <roomerre> why =1 ?
[16:36] <roomerre> 1second ?
[16:36] <fhikmawan> hi
[16:36] <roomerre> i dont want it etirely
[16:37] <D4n1u5> ok basta parlo in italiano
[16:37] <fhikmawan> how to connect wifi ?
[16:37] <roomerre> EriC^^: ?
[16:37] <D4n1u5> usate il traduttore
[16:37] <EriC^^> roomerre: no idea, GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 should remove it i think
[16:37] <D4n1u5> :)
[16:37] <cfhowlett> roomerre, shttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB
[16:37] <D4n1u5> who is boss?
[16:38] <Sean_McG> not you, son
[16:38] <D4n1u5> hahaha :( sean
[16:43] <ars23> :)
[16:47] <Yaaic_Demo> motd
[16:47] <flappynerd> can I upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 "in place" ?
[16:47] <EriC^^> flappynerd: yes
[16:47] <EriC^^> sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:48] <EriC^^> backup first
[16:48] <flappynerd> ok thanks
[16:48] <Yaaic_Demo> i can break Myusbonl
[16:48] <EriC^^> flappynerd: no problem
[16:48] <Yaaic_Demo> myusbonly software
[16:49] <Yaaic_Demo> Ubuntu 17.04 relese date
[16:49] <Sean_McG> erm, the 04 in that means April
[16:49] <Yaaic_Demo> thanx man
[16:51] <flappynerd> EriC^^, hmm, "no new release found"
[16:51] <flappynerd> lsb_release -a reports 16.04
[16:51] <Sean_McG> oh, since 16.04 is an LTS release maybe there is something special you need to do?
[16:51] <flappynerd> ahh
[16:52] <EriC^^> flappynerd: try sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:52] <ducasse> flappynerd: open 'software and updates', set to 'show any new release'
[16:52] <Sean_McG> I don't know myself -- I'm still on 14.04 (trusty) here
[16:52] <flappynerd> well, what about backports, is it relatively easy to get a package from 16.10 in to 16.04?
[16:52] <flappynerd> I don't see it in backports
[16:52] <flappynerd> libboost 1.6x
[16:52] <EriC^^> flappynerd: set Prompt= to Prompt=normal and then save and exit
[16:53] <Sean_McG> wow, less than a month before Christmas
[16:53] <Netek> Sean_McG dont remind me -_-
[16:54] <flappynerd> Sean_McG, you mean cannibal zombie celebration?
[16:57] <ProfessorKaos64> my ~/.dput.cfg is here: http://slexy.org/view/s2W5dOPM5c and my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~mdeguzis/+archive/ubuntu/libregeek-ubuntu, but dput ppa:mdeguzis/libregeek-ubuntu antimicro*soure.changes yields No host ppa:mdeguzis/libregeek-ubuntu found in config
[16:58] <flappynerd> "will take about 2 days 1hr with a 56k modem"
[16:58] <flappynerd> o.0
[16:58] <flappynerd> brings back the memz
[17:09] <brainwash> ProfessorKaos64: try without "ppa:"
[17:09] <ProfessorKaos64> I figured it out by rename the profile in [ ] under the cfg file
[17:11] <Yaaic_Demo> can i install windows app in Ubuntu ??
[17:11] <ducasse> !wine | Yaaic_Demo
[17:12] <Yaaic_Demo> it works yaa
[17:16] <Malgorath> Is there a way to take the time and icons off a second monitor with the grey bar at the top? its kinda redundant and takes up space on my smaller monitor
[17:23] <ikonia> /w/win 7
[17:23] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[17:25] <yyyy_> q
[17:32] <Juanete> Hello Channel
[17:34] <Juanete> Does anyone knows if I have to open other port than 21 in ubuntu and to check if it's working?
[17:34] <Juanete> I've made a netstat and it looks like it is only in IPV6
[17:34] <Juanete> https://i.imgur.com/KGk57py.png
[17:40] <zanshin> On 16.10 with gnome-shell installed, I'm trying to activate the "Applications Menu" extension through extensions.gnome.org in Firefox. When I turn the extension on I'm prompted to install it - which I do - and then the on|off toggle reverts to off. Not sure where to look for any error messages so I'm stuck trying to figure this out. Other extensions, like Places, work just fine. Any ideas?
[17:43] <devslash> I've got a macbook unibody that was running 16.04 perfectly. I ran the upgrade to upgrade it to 16.10 and now it won't boot. I added nosplash at the grub prompt and it hangs at Started user manager for UID 125
[17:45] <flappynerd> devslash, what do you mean by "ran the upgrade"
[17:45] <flappynerd> devslash, i.e. which upgrade method did you use?
[17:46] <devslash> i dunno it said do you want to upgrade to 16.10 and i clicked on upgrade
[17:48] <devslash> do you know what causes this to happen?
[17:48] <ProfessorKaos64> my ppa upload goes until the very last part, but gets Could not write .upload?
[17:49] <flappynerd> devslash, hmm, seems you must have changed something
[17:49] <flappynerd> devslash, normally ubuntu will not ask you that
[17:49] <devslash> no
[17:49] <newbie_m> Hi all, abit primitive question. Which is easier, installing ubuntu on Celeron chromebook3 or a windows 10 atom laptop ?
[17:49] <devslash> during the upgrade it did ask me to choose between gdm and lightgdm
[17:50] <flappynerd> well, I have 16.04 and I manually had to change settings to get it to even allow me to upgrade to 16.10
[17:50] <devslash> i chose gdm
[17:50] <devslash> i did too i chose notify me for any new version
[17:50] <flappynerd> devslash, anyway, basically upgrading like that is not well supported
[17:50] <devslash> then it displayed the upgrade prompt
[17:50] <flappynerd> devslash, ubuntu upgrades should typically only ever be done from an .iso file on a DVD or USB-thumb-drive for example
[17:50] <manjaro> hola que tal
[17:51] <flappynerd> otherwise it's basically "at your own risk"
[17:51] <flappynerd> zanshin, probably #gnome is better
[17:53] <devslash> thats BS i dont buy that. I've upgrade from previous versions of ubuntu and it worked perfectly
[17:53] <manjaro> alguien hablando español
[17:53] <manjaro> hola que tal
[17:54] <manjaro> probando,probando
[17:54] <Netek> devslash doesnt mean its BS.  I have had an instance in the past doing an upgrade of Ubuntu and had issues, JUST because it worked perfectly for you doesnt mean it works perfectly for everybody else....  Just sayinh
[17:54] <Netek> saying
[17:55] <ProfessorKaos64> dput writes package.ftp-master.upload, but still says Could not write incoming/...regeek-ubuntu.upload
[17:56] <manjaro> no entiendo a esta gente
[17:56] <manjaro> yo creo que me he equivocado de canal
[18:02] <devslash2> hey guys i fixed the problem
[18:03] <devslash2> flappynerd, Netek
[18:03] <devslash2> I booted into recovery mode and did sudo dpk-reconfigure lightdm and selected lightdm as the WM
[18:07] <Trioxin> I can't figure this out. I have this line in my /etc/sudoers: %group1 ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/app  and my account is added to group1 but when I launch the app with gksudo /usr/bin/app it still promps for a password.
[18:08] <flappynerd> newbie_m, sounds like you want to do a google search for "ubuntu netbook"
[18:10] <howarth> what is the logic of libiomp5 being emptu in 16.10?
[18:10] <newbie_m> flappynerd: yes, I found that for the Atom but not sure if that should be good enough factor for me to buy the Atom Win 10 laptop over the Celeron Chromebook ?
[18:11] <howarth> certainly ubuntu should be distributing libomp.so
[18:11] <flappynerd> newbie_m, buy a used lenovo
[18:11] <flappynerd> thinkpads have been historically great with most *nix
[18:12] <ikonia> only the t series or x series are safe
[18:12] <ikonia> lots of other thinkpads are very incompatible with linux
[18:12] <flappynerd> and you can get a faster one, for cheaper than plenty of netbooks
[18:12] <flappynerd> i.e. you'll oftetn pay $300-$400 for a netbook, and you can get a reasonably good used thinkpad for less than $300
[18:13] <newbie_m> flappynerd: well, the celeron chromebook is for $140 , the atom win10 is $100
[18:14] <flappynerd> newbie_m, you realize that the computer you buy for that price will be less powerful than my iPhone, right?
[18:14] <newbie_m> flappynerd: yeah that's a secondary machine, not my main laptop but I want linux on it.
[18:16] <flappynerd> I would still search for a used thinkpad or similar in the same price range
[18:17] <ikonia> newbie_m: then buy a device that actually supports linux
[18:17] <flappynerd> hell, you could probably get an old 386 for free and put DSL on it
[18:17] <ikonia> rather than reference devices that really won't work
[18:17] <flappynerd> and it would still be faster than a netbook
[18:17] <flappynerd> and, upshot, the drivers for all the hardware will be well supported by now, even by BSD and friends :)
[18:19] <newbie_m> ikonia: both should support Linux. It's just  installing ubuntu on Chromebook seems more complicated than on a win10 machine
[18:19] <nicko> aranızda türkçe bilen varmı
[18:19] <ikonia> newbie_m: they don't though
[18:19] <ikonia> newbie_m: why are you thinking both should support linux....based on what
[18:20] <newbie_m> ikonia: I could eventually install linux on both if needed , right ?
[18:20] <ikonia> newbie_m: no
[18:21] <neopsyche> hi. has anyone else tried gnome 3 on ubuntu"?
[18:21] <ikonia> neopsyche: yes
[18:21] <neopsyche> ikonia the rendering engine is absolutely amazing
[18:22] <newbie_m> ikonia: ok, can you please clarify why not ? I though I could remove win10 or ChromeOS and install ubuntu
[18:22] <neopsyche> just .. some icon problems i am having and the pointer is too sensitive .. on 16.04 and trying to figure out how to keep the great rendering .
[18:22] <pca> hy
[18:22] <ikonia> newbie_m: look up the people running linux/ubuntu on both of these and you'll find it's a hack
[18:23] <giru> help ! i installed opencv lib on home folder and build it . but how to include this in our program. /usr/include/opencv is not any folder shown in various tutorial .
[18:23] <giru> this is not in my pc.
[18:23] <newbie_m> ikonia: Isn't that If I'm planning to keep the original OS ? I'm planning to remove the original OS.
[18:23] <ikonia> newbie_m: no
[18:24] <neopsyche> ikonia: can you help me tweak the gnome3
[18:24] <ikonia> giru: look at the linker
[18:24] <ikonia> neopsyche: no idea, not sure what you want to change
[18:24] <ikonia> neopsyche: best just ask the channel
[18:24] <giru> ikonia: I am using code blocks ide.
[18:24] <neopsyche> helo all.. can anyone help me tweak gnome 3?
[18:25] <ikonia> giru: so ?
[18:25] <giru> what to include in compiler search directory option.
[18:25] <giru> which folder?
[18:25] <ikonia> neopsyche: you need to say more than "tweak gnome" explain what you want
[18:25] <ikonia> giru: talk to codeblocks support
[18:26] <giru> what is present under /usr/include/ ??
[18:26] <ikonia> giru: headers
[18:26] <giru> i have to put my all header here???
[18:26] <ikonia> giru: no
[18:26] <ikonia> giru: talk to codeblocks support if you want help using codeblocks
[18:26] <TAL_> Hello there, could someone help me? I have a Lenovo T420 running on both Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.03. The problem is, my speakers arent working. They dont work in both OSs. In the settings, I went to check on the speakers and aparently(to the computer), they are working flawlesly. I think this is a hardware issue. Any ideas what the problem could be?
[18:26] <giru> so i have to give relative path to it..
[18:26] <ikonia> giru: talk to codeblocks support if you want help using codeblocks
[18:27] <giru> ikonia: thank you.
[18:27] <ikonia> TAL_: talk to lenovo
[18:27] <ikonia> TAL_: if it's broken in both OS's its going to be hardware
[18:27] <newbie_m> ikonia: I'm confused. What you mean by  laptops  that support Linux? why is it a hack to remove the original OS and install fresh ubuntu ?
[18:28] <ikonia> newbie_m: try removing the OS on a chrome book
[18:28] <TAL_> ikonia: ok, I'll head to the lenovo forums. Thanks
[18:28] <nunchuck> anyone have a good cli browser?  or is it still lynx?
[18:29] <ikonia> hard to beat lynx
[18:29] <newbie_m> ikonia: yes its complicated. Removing windows is easier I guess
[18:30] <ikonia> newbie_m: nope, both of these devices are designed to be a closed platform.
[18:31] <zergut> hello, what i can use to burn CD?
[18:31] <newbie_m> ikonia: so, any recommendations for a specific platform ?
[18:31] <nunchuck> ikonia: yea after all these years lynx still has the title
[18:31] <ikonia> newbie_m: depends on your usecase/budget etc
[18:31] <gcl> How can i use my Creative CT6840 in Ubu16.04? lsusb shows it as "OmniVision OV511+ Webcam" but in Cheese it is not available, it shows only the built-in webcam (Toshiba Satellite C55)
[18:32] <neopsyche> mouse pointer is too sensitive and some window managers etc.. missing scrollbar / icons
[18:33] <newbie_m> ikonia: something cheap , simple just to vnc remotely
[18:33] <ikonia> why would you vnc into it ?
[18:33] <ikonia> sort of defeats the object of a laptop
[18:34] <gcl> It is an old webcam, Creative Labs Webcam3 (CT6840) http://www.astrosurf.com/atuniverse/image003.gif
[18:35] <ikonia> gcl: have you looked if it has linux support
[18:35] <newbie_m> ikonia: vnc from it to my main machine
[18:35] <tgm4883> newbie_m: he's asking why you would pay a premium for a laptop if you were just going to access it remotely anyway
[18:35] <ikonia> newbie_m: then why not buy a cheap desktop that a.) has cheaper better hardware as it's full size b.) is cheaper as it won't include costs like screen
[18:37] <newbie_m> tgm4883: ikonia I have a desktop. I'm buying the chromebook to login to my desktop remotely so I dont need a fancy one, just something that I could put basic linux on.
[18:38] <ikonia> newbie_m: why do you need linux then
[18:38] <tgm4883> newbie_m: ah, that was confusing. You're looking to VNC from the laptop
[18:38] <ikonia> just use a chromebook running chrome os
[18:38] <wyth> Can I repair my server installation with a liveusb, but still keep things like webmin and stuff installed? Or will I have to go through and reinstall/reconfigure all my softwares
[18:38] <gcl> PD: I need to use 2 cameras concurrently.
[18:38] <ikonia> wyth: webmin is not supported and makes your machine unsupportable
[18:39] <wyth> ikonia: Ok then, good to know.
[18:40] <newbie_m> ikonia: just in case I happen to need to do anything locally, you know
 i used a long time ago in Ubu12.04 and Ubu14.04 (and other versions between then.
[18:40] <wyth> ikonia: What about my lvm and stuff though?  :P
[18:43] <wyth> vfw: It's three externals in the lvm, they should each be the single partition?
[18:43] <vfw> wyth: Do you have your system running now/
[18:43] <vfw> ?
[18:43] <wyth> vfw: yes, I'm still backing things up
[18:44] <vfw> wyth: Show us what you have.  You have all your Hard Drives mounted right now.  Right? Show us what you have and what you have on these drives.
[18:45] <vfw> wyth: sudo fdisk -l |& ne termbin.com 9999
[18:45] <vfw> wyth: df |& nc termbin.com 9999
[18:45] <vfw> wyth: sudo fdisk -l |& nc termbin.com 9999
[18:45] <wyth> http://termbin.com/84un
[18:45] <wyth> vfw: //termbin.com/84un
[18:46] <vfw> wyth: cat /etc/fstab |nc termbin.com 9999
[18:46] <gcl> Driver(webcam CT6840) seems to be ok. but it doesn't 'attach' to /dev/video1. i haven't idea where to start to do it available. Any clue?
[18:46] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/uzhb
[18:50] <gcl> I have tested in an old Laptop with Ubu14.04 and works(plug and play), but to video processing it needs the Toshiba power.
[18:51] <vfw> wyth: du -sh /home/
[18:51] <vfw> Show us...
[18:51] <vfw> here
[18:52] <vfw> wyth: I do not see the need to re-partition anything.  The installer will only format the partitions you tell it to and you can tell the installer to install to the partitions you want.
[18:52] <wyth> vfw: 753M    /home/
[18:53] <wyth> vfw: Right, so it won't format those drives, but will I need to reconfigure lvm for them to show up?
[18:53] <wyth> cd opt
[18:54] <wyth> oops, sorry
[18:54] <vfw> wyth: sudo blkid |& nc termbin.com
[18:55] <wyth> vfw: http://termbin.com/rn3n
[18:55] <vfw> wyth: You can try and fix what you have if you want but I just want to see how feasable a re-install would be.
[18:56] <wyth> vfw: Yeah, I mean I'm planning on doing the reinstall, just wanted to know how difficult the lvm coming back would be, basically
[19:00] <marshall> hi everyone. I need help accessing an encrypted file on another partition on my computer. I added a ubuntu 16.04 LTS partition to my desktop which was running mint 17.3
[19:01] <marshall> Another chatter helped me before, but I had to leave all of a sudden, and my wife rebooted the computer, which undid all of the work I had done to access those files.
[19:05] <vfw> wyth: It would be difficult either way.  The way you have it set up, it's hard.
[19:06] <wyth> vfw: Oi. :(
[19:07] <vfw> I told you last night that you would have to manually uninstall a lot of packages in order to get rid of the conflicts..  You would have to manually install a bunch more and keep on and on until you can satisfy apt/dpkg and then  start rebuilding the system as 16.04. Right now, even though it is identified as 16.04 it is still stuck mostly as 14.04
[19:07] <wyth> vfw: Right, that's why I planned on just doing the reinstall
[19:10] <vfw> wyth: I would boot Ubuntu LiveCD, (or some sort of LiveCD, and look at what options you might have and how you can split it up.
[19:11] <wyth> vfw: I made an Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS 32bit liveusb
[19:11] <vfw> wyth: You are in a difficult situation.  Best thing is to get some backup drive or drives and backup everything you cant live without.
[19:12] <vfw> wyth: Why 32bit?
[19:12] <vfw> wyth: Is your system 32bit now?
[19:12] <wyth> vfw: It's an old macbook and is only 32bit
[19:12] <wyth> vfw: It's supposed to have been 32bit the whole time
[19:12] <Rinzler> I'm doing headbanging to configure a secondary wlan1 interface on physical phy0, someone can help me?
[19:12] <vfw> wyth: Oh, this is a mackbook?
[19:13] <wyth> vfw: Yeah, an old aluminum one
[19:13] <vfw> Ok.  Well, as much as I'd like to contiune this conversation, I have to go for now.  I'll be back in about 2 hours if you're sill here.
[19:14] <wyth> vfw: Ok, thanks again Sir. I appreciate the help/insight
[19:25] <Guest81747> quit
[19:28] <jillbyers> Questioning The Holocaust - Why We Believed (Part 1 of 2) https://youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM
[19:33] <makoya> guys how do i optimise my wireless card, i notice on windows the pc connects better to linux but when i reboot to ubuntu there is less signal
[19:33] <makoya> i mean connects better to wifi**
[19:40] <Tachyon_> hello. I know the don't ask to ask thing, but I'm still not sure if I can ask something related to Minecraft. so, excuse me but I'll still ask.. to ask.
[19:40] <navidr> after installing all Qt5 packages , I still don't have Qt Application template in my qtcreator ? and when I want to install qt-sdk it wants to install qt version 4 ( which is quite old ) , how can I install qt5 sdk in ubuntu
[19:43] <angelxenial1604l> Hello everyone I have a problem with ubuntu 16.04 with Intel graphics drivers gives me this error, how do I fix?
[19:43] <angelxenial1604l> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23539242/
[19:43] <navidr> forget it , removing all configuration file worked !
[19:45] <Hikikomori> Does anybody tried yandex browser?
[19:48] <rocketbomb> .quit
[19:52] <headless__> yandex is created by kgb
[20:00] <Hikikomori> I'm fine with that, just asking appinion about browser. KGB or FBI - same shit :)
[20:02] <NiO> hey
[20:03] <NiO> I know this is not the channel for SQL but is anybody familiar with SQL?
[20:03] <OerHeks> Hikikomori, it is not in our repositories, only availabe with a PPA https://launchpad.net/~yandex-load/+archive/ubuntu/main never tried it myself
[20:04] <OerHeks> NiO, try #ubuntu-server or #sql ?
[20:04] <NiO> THank OerHeks
[20:05] <max12345> hi, can I stop my machine from doing background update checks?
[20:05] <max12345> right now there is a root process running updatedb.mlocate
[20:05] <max12345> and some other time it was checking for updates by itself, I don't want that.
[20:06] <OerHeks> max12345,  updates > automatically check for updates > daily - never
[20:08] <max12345> :) sweet thanks. I thought it would be more arcane than that...
[20:16] <crackle> hi
[20:16] <golden_ticket> Is there any way to get picture in picture in Ubuntu? http://www.itdadao.com/articles/c19a350892p0.html
[20:17] <crackle> #CHANNEL
[20:23] <soso_> hello
[20:23] <soso_>  i have a computer, it s a celeron, there is a ubuntu on it... what can i use it for ? make a server ? but what kind of server ?
[20:24] <ioria> soso_, can you give us your exact cpu ?
[20:27] <ioria> soso_,  in windows Control Panel -> System, on linux  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:29] <x0g> Heya guys, after 6-7 years I'm trying out Ubuntu again (16.04 atm). So far it looks really polished but Unity is taking more memory than Plasma on cold start. Should I upgrade my kernel to 4.8+ or the issue persists there as well?
[20:29] <winsen> hi all
[20:30] <ioria> x0g, how much ram ?
[20:31] <x0g> 4 GB but 64bit
[20:31] <ioria> x0g, ok, cpu ?
[20:32] <x0g> ioria, Intel Core2 Duo E8400
[20:32] <ioria> x0g, can you paste free -m ?
[20:33] <x0g> free -m
[20:33] <x0g>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[20:33] <x0g> Mem:           3951        1476         414          97        2059        2017
[20:33] <x0g> Swap:          1952         381        1570
[20:33] <ioria> x0g, not here, please
[20:33] <ioria> x0g, on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:34] <x0g> I know but it's only 3 lines, not really a spammy output. Will do next time
[20:34] <ioria> x0g, yes, not normal your swap in use ....
[20:34] <x0g> yea, I reduced swappiness
[20:34] <x0g> Need to reboot
[20:34] <xangua> x0g: how much is plasma using? Recently read an article about hour much less ram plasma uses but it is still slower to start and turn off than gnome, xfce, etc
[20:35] <ioria> x0g, to what ? under 60 ?
[20:35] <x0g> ioria, yeah 10-20 ,can't recall
[20:35] <ioria> x0g, i don't think it's the solution
[20:35] <x0g> xangua, I tried OpenSuSe tumbleweed and it used 435 MB -600 MB on cold boot on my system
[20:36] <ioria> x0g,  something not right
[20:36] <x0g> ioria, yeah , figured as much
[20:36] <ioria> x0g,  ps -A
[20:37] <xangua> x0g: if you really need RAM you could either use a lighter desktop or buy more RAM
[20:37] <ioria> but he should be bood with 4G ...
[20:37] <ioria> *good
[20:37] <xangua> x0g: is there something wrong with Ubuntu, unity or KDE anyways?
[20:38] <x0g> xangua, I gave up on this desktop after buying 8 different RAM sticks and they wouldn't work
[20:38] <xangua> What doesn't work!?
[20:39] <x0g> xangua, not at all working as intended but I will use VDI to work from home so I will kinda need free RAM
[20:39] <ioria> x0g,  can you paste sudo dmidecode --type 17
[20:39] <x0g> ioria, sec
[20:40] <x0g> ioria, http://pastebin.com/cGaXN4Cb
[20:42] <x0g> Odd thing is that the system runs great on Debian Jessie with 3.16 kernel
[20:42] <x0g> but there I'm using Openbox
[20:42] <x0g> so ofc it runs great :D
[20:43] <xangua> You can also use openbox in Ubuntu ;-)
[20:44] <ioria> x0g,  if you rebbot, with no apps opende, what you get from free -m ?
[20:44] <ioria> x0g,  if you reboot, with no apps opened, what you get from free -m ?
[20:44] <x0g> lemme test it out, give me a min
[20:44] <dorkmafia> I'm trying to install ubuntu using a usb stick on to an HPZ820 it has a UEFI ... is there anything special I need to do?
[20:45] <xangua> dorkmafia: I just did my first UEFI install, good luck ;-)
[20:45] <ioria> dorkmafia, run the usb in efi mode
[20:45] <dorkmafia> xangua: yah I think I already destroyed the windows partition :)
[20:45] <dorkmafia> ioria: how do I run the usb in efi mode?
[20:45] <ioria> dorkmafia, from bios
[20:46] <ioria> dorkmafia, the ubuntu isos are hybrid
[20:46] <xangua> dorkmafia: that's what I did too, but because I wanted
[20:48] <x0g> ioria, 600 MB on cold boot , no swap usage atm
[20:48] <ioria> x0g,  hurrah
[20:48] <x0g> yeah, that's fine by me for Unity
[20:49] <ioria> x0g,  yup
[20:49] <dorkmafia> is there anything special I need to do when creating the usb stick?
[20:49] <x0g> dorkmafia, are you on Windows or Linux?
[20:49] <mist_> heya fellas, i seem to have broken xorg or my dm when installing my amd graphics card driver
[20:49] <ioria> dorkmafia, check the iso and the media
[20:50] <mist_> anyone have time to help me? i was stuck in the terminal for an hour before i was able to edit the grub config to enter recovery mode
[20:50] <wyth> So, trying to install ubuntu server 16.04.1 LTS. Each time after it goes through the installation and gets to the reboot part, it reboots and stops at a purple screen. It never shows a grub or bios before it gets to that section.. Any suggestions as far as steps to take? Should I edit a file before the reboot?
[20:50] <ioria> !details | mist_
[20:50] <mist_> (i'm actually running linux mint but there is alot more people in here)
[20:50] <x0g> mist_, always have a backup before messing with confs :D
[20:51] <mist_> yeah ._.
[20:51] <x0g> can you run startx?
[20:51] <mist_> i cannot
[20:51] <x0g> what's the error output ?
[20:51] <mist_> sec let me pastebin the xorg log
[20:51] <dorkmafia> ioria: ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso was going to use this for the uefi boot stick
[20:51] <ioria> dorkmafia, ok, dd on a stick
[20:52] <mist_> http://pastebin.com/mgMP5a9X
[20:52] <x0g> I have to skip as I have to work but people here are really helpful mist_ , good luck! Bye ioria ! :D
[20:52] <ioria> x0g,  bye, mate
[20:52] <dorkmafia> i used unetbootin before
[20:52] <dorkmafia> i'm on osx right now
[20:52] <ioria> dorkmafia, better dd
[20:52] <ioria> dorkmafia, on win, rufus
[20:53] <ioria> dorkmafia, no idea, then
[20:54] <mist_> anyone else got any ideas?
[20:54] <dorkmafia> ioria: unetbootin?
[20:54] <ioria> dorkmafia, never used osx, sorry
[20:54] <dorkmafia> it's just like BSD there is a dd tool
[20:55] <ioria> dorkmafia, try thst
[20:55] <Random832> unetbootin works differently from dd
[20:55] <Random832> it puts all the files from the iso on the usb, and sets it up to boot with syslinux
[20:57] <dorkmafia> Random832: will that work with a uefi boot?
[20:58] <Random832> no idea
[20:59] <Random832> just pointing out that it's two different mechanisms
[20:59] <dorkmafia> ok
[21:00] <Random832> so if one doesn't work maybe try the other
[21:00] <Padawan> Hey guys, Is it possible to change the unity for another desktop evironment say xfce?
[21:00] <dorkmafia> the ubuntu site reccomends to use unetbootin
[21:00] <Random832> then you probably should use it
[21:00] <dorkmafia> the stick is in EFI mode
[21:00] <xangua> Padawan: yes
[21:01] <dorkmafia> is that a good thing or bad thing?
[21:01] <Random832> i don't know what that is
[21:08] <Leissi> hello
[21:09] <luigi> ciao
[21:09] <Leissi> I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[21:09] <luigi> !list
[21:09] <wyth> I can't get to bios or grub after a fresh install of ubuntu server. It goes straight to a purple screen where it hangs..
[21:09] <luigi> sorry
[21:10] <Leissi> I booted up my old laptop and it suggested to make a distribution upgrade so I did. Now I don't have network connectivity and get random system error popups
[21:12] <wyth> Any suggestions?
[21:12] <Leissi> this is a paste about the errors I get https://paste.ee/p/AJF3D
[21:14] <mist123> alright 2 hours since i tried to install the amd drivers that ruined my xorg server
[21:14] <mist123> Anyone got any experience with this or should i just go back to winblows?
[21:14] <Leissi> sudo apt-get upgrade ends up with this https://paste.ee/p/P6D8a
[21:21] <Seveas> Leissi: is the disk full or corrupt? df -h will show you available space, dmesg may give clues about corruption
[21:21] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[21:22] <Seveas> wyth: the purple screen is likely ubuntu already, but the bios comes before that, so you should be able to get in.
[21:22] <Leissi> Seveas: disk is not full
[21:22] <OnkelTem> Folks, need your help. Do any of you have a working VPN connection? Would you copy-paste it (from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/) somewhere? I can't create a new connection
[21:23] <Leissi> Seveas: also, dmesg gives a whole lot of text - What of it is important?
[21:23] <Seveas> OnkelTem: that'll be mostly useless as those settings depend on the vpn used...
[21:23] <OnkelTem> oh, I meant pptp!
[21:23] <OnkelTem> Or rather... I don't know why it is not added. When I run nm-connection-editor, I see there my newly created connection. But it doesn't appear in the /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/...
[21:23] <Seveas> OnkelTem: ticked the 'connection can be used by all users' checkbox?
[21:24] <Leissi> aw crud. I/O errors don't really seem too good
[21:24] <Seveas> Leissi: anyting with sda or sdb (or sdc... etc.) in it
[21:24] <Seveas> I/O error sounds bad indeed
[21:24] <OnkelTem> Seveas: sure. There's another issue with this, I should started with it: it doesn't save password. And then when I run it using `nmcli` it says: Error: Connection activation failed: no valid VPN secrets.
[21:25] <Seveas> OnkelTem: any reason you're not using nm-applet for all this? It tends to do its job quite well
[21:25] <vfw> wyth: Sitll there
[21:25] <vfw> ?
[21:25] <Seveas> (OnkelTem and yes, that's a lame cop out as I don't quite know how to debug that further and would like not to need to find out :))
[21:25] <OnkelTem> Seveas: yeah, it doesn't work :) When I run it, it seems to only do WiFi jobs. I'm on AwesomeWM and have no normal tray
[21:26] <vfw> Before I left I was going to suggest you so some non-destructive partitioning so that / can be on a separate partition.  Just create about an 80 or 100G partition for /
[21:26] <Seveas> OnkelTem: you'll need to install network-manager-gnome-pptp for nm-applet to be able to do pptp connections iirc
[21:26] <OnkelTem> Seveas: offtopic and a wild guess: are you Russian or somewhere from Asia? :)
[21:26] <vfw> wyth: That was for you.
[21:26] <Seveas> OnkelTem: Not even close. .nl here :)
[21:27] <OnkelTem> Seveas: Ah, then maybe you had long conversations for the mentioned people? :)
[21:27] <Leissi> dmesg paste https://paste.ee/p/9VURA
[21:28] <vfw> wyth: And you can probably do it on the fly. At the beginning or even the end, just create an 80 or 100G partition for /
[21:28] <OnkelTem> Seveas: because once I was "acused" for using multiple brackets in smileys and was told that's very particular for Russians. And that's who I'm  :)))
[21:28] <Seveas> Leissi: yes, that disk is toast.
[21:28] <OnkelTem> s/for/with/ (to the previous)
[21:28] <Seveas> OnkelTem: the second bracket is actually the closing bracket to the ( at the beginning of the line :P
[21:29] <vfw> wyth: I for one, never wanted everything on one big partition, and your situation is a good reason why....
[21:29] <OnkelTem> Seveas: damn! An exception confirming a rule! :)
[21:29] <OnkelTem> and it was not even an exception LOL
[21:29] <Seveas> Leissi: I could give you some commands with which you can try to whip apt-get into shape, but your time is much better spent backing the files on that disk that you don't want to lose and then buying a new harddisk.
[21:29] <OnkelTem> ok, back to NetworkManager issues. Does anybody know how why networkmanager could not save passowrds?
[21:30] <vfw> OnkelTem: Mine does.
[21:31] <OnkelTem> vfw: w/o the 'standard' desktop manager?
[21:31] <Seveas> OnkelTem: if it's not created as system connection (which it doesn't seem to be), the password is stored in your user settings and you'll need a running secret agent (such as nm-applet) to tell n-m the secret when connecting.
[21:31] <Seveas> OnkelTem: so I would delete the conenction and recreate it, making doubly sure to create it as system connection
[21:31] <OnkelTem> Seveas: I did ticked that checkbox. And even launched it (nm-connection-editor) with sudo
[21:32] <OnkelTem> ah, let me check
[21:32] <Seveas> launching nm-connection-editor with sudo may not be the best idea
[21:32] <vfw> OnkelTem: Well, that's the only way I've used it, (with nm-applet).
[21:33] <OnkelTem> I tried both. But recreating the connection now
[21:33] <OnkelTem> vfw: I see
[21:33] <vfw> OnkelTem: I don't know what it would be like without it.
[21:33] <Seveas> OnkelTem: you may also want to try nmtui instead on nm-connection-editor
[21:34] <wyth> vfw: Hey man, I've still just been trying to install it fresh. So I've been back and forth. Sorry to miss your messages
[21:34] <wyth> vfw: I'm remaking the usb, because even though it was an iso for 16.04 it was showing up as 14.04. And it installed a desktop interface, even though it's supposed to be a server image
[21:34] <vfw> OnkelTem: Here are the files I have installed for networkmanager:  http://termbin.com/zgld
[21:36] <Hancock> Have anyone tried Gnome 3.22 ?
[21:37] <wyth> Now the new usb isn't even loading any grub or options to install. *sigh*
[21:40] <AmazeCPK> I set up an ubuntu vm with virtual box, and am now wondering, can I do my programming in the windows host, and run my program in the vm? (node.js)
[21:41] <Malgorath> AmazeCPK, Yes. You can even share a folder between them so your not copying files back and forth
[21:41] <AmazeCPK> oh wonderful!
[21:41] <AmazeCPK> will look into sharing folders. thank you
[21:41] <codfection> what GUI is suitable for qemu? (I am used to vmware)
[21:42] <Seveas> codfection: virt-manager is used a lot by the kvm crowd
[21:42] <Bashing-om> wyth: As you are re-partitioning . and a server install . this is my partioning - verry very tight ! http://termbin.com/cfjj .
[21:42] <Leissi> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-extra-4.4.0-49-generic but it is not installed
[21:43] <Leissi> wat do
[21:43] <Seveas> Leissi: I could give you some commands with which you can try to whip apt-get into shape, but your time is much better spent backing up the files on that disk that you don't want to lose and then buying a new harddisk.
[21:43] <codfection> thanks Seveas
[21:43] <wyth> Bashing-om: I will try to set it up like that if I ever get to the point where it'll load the usb again
[21:43] <vfw> wyth: Did you see what I said earlier?
[21:44] <Seveas> Leissi: disks that exhibit the symptoms you pastebin'ed usually deteriorate quickly.
[21:44] <Leissi> Seveas: well, shit
[21:44] <MarcoP> lol
[21:44] <wyth> vfw: About resizing the partition? I already wiped the thing when trying to reinstall it a bit earlier
[21:44] <Seveas> Leissi: 'shit' is a pretty accurate summary of your current situation :)
[21:45] <Leissi> Seveas: it's not actually that big of a deal - this laptop only holds about 2 gb of photos
[21:46] <codfection> Is it worth learning / switching to qemu when I can use vmware workstation?
[21:46] <wyth> unetbootin doesn't seem to be making the usb drive bootable..?
[21:46] <MarcoP> seveas are you saying those unmet dependecies usually mean a hard drive is about to fail?
[21:46] <kk4ewt> why use vmware/vbox if you dont have to
[21:46] <Seveas> codfection: I wouldn't bother learning 'naked' qemu, but kvm is worth learning about.
[21:47] <wyth> When I first made it it showed up with the grub to try without installing, install, etc. Now it's just going straight to a purple screen
[21:47] <Seveas> MarcoP: no, but he pastebin'ed some things earlier that show that it will :)(
[21:47] <MarcoP> oh i c
[21:47] <kk4ewt> wyth no but fdisk can
[21:47] <vfw> wyth: I was on the phone.... So did you do the install?
[21:48] <wyth> vfw: Been trying. The new usb isn't showing any options for install, it just goes straight to a blank purple screen. I used unetbootin
[21:49] <vfw> wyth: I just use dd
[21:49] <takko> Hi, can anyone help me with recovering an .odt file?
[21:50] <wyth> vfw: I can dd using bash on ubuntu on windows?
[21:50] <zh1> i read this https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html
[21:50] <vfw> wyth: What I was saying about making another partition for / is a good idea I think.  It can even be another HD.  What I like to do is have partitions for / and for /home/ and swap  (at least three).  That way, if I want to do a fresh install, it's no problem
[21:50] <Seveas> zh1: anything read on gnu.org needs to be taken with a pretty big grain of salt.
[21:51] <vfw> wyth: But as far as your USB install media, just go at it again.
[21:51] <wyth> vfw: If I can get it to that point, I will try going that route
[21:51] <Bashing-om> takko: These any help : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery ?
[21:51] <vfw> wyth: And just use dd.  sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX  bs=4M
[21:52] <vfw> wyth: Yea, I use 3 partitions, / and swap and /home/
[21:53] <wyth> vfw: I'm on win10, can I use the bash on ubuntu on windows to do that?
[21:53] <chamunks> I'm trying to restart a Salt-Minion I installed with the bootstrap.  I can't seem to get service salt-minion restart
[21:53] <chamunks> To work.
[21:53] <vfw> wyth: swap about 4G or 8G,  / about 80 or 100G and the rest for /home/
[21:53] <wyth> vfw: roger that
[21:53] <zh1> wyth, yes
[21:53] <codfection> Seveas, is KVM worth ditching current vmware workstation for?
[21:53] <chamunks> systemctl is apparently not a thing here so what is it this week...
[21:54] <takko> Bashing-om I think it is an xml problem.  I still have the file, the hard drive is fine
[21:54] <vfw> wyth: media can be somewhere like /home/wyth/media
[21:54] <wyth> vfw: Not sure how to check which sdX the usb is from bash on windows
[21:54] <Bashing-om> vfw: wyth I like to make sure the cache gets written out : ' dd if=/dev/sdx of=/dev/sdy bs=8M && sync ' .
[21:54] <takko> Bashing-om: I get this when I try to open it with libreoffice Read-Error.
[21:54] <takko> Format error discovered in the file in sub-document content.xml at 20,67(row,col).
[21:55] <vfw> wyth: you can do LVM and strap as many drives together as you want but just have /home/ for the biggest partition, everything there other than packages and program files and /var and cache and all that.
[21:55] <Bashing-om> takko: Humm, my thought is to look at the file from a text editor ??
[21:55] <younder> oddly cat can be used to move data between devices fater.. try it
[21:55] <takko> Bashing-om: opening it with another program (focuswriter, which I used to create the file) gives me the message "Premature end of document"
[21:55] <younder> 'cat'
[21:56] <vfw> Bashing-om: You mean dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M && sync
[21:56] <kk4ewt> takko what happens if you try to open in libreoffice
[21:57] <Bashing-om> takko: Soinds like a Windows versus linux EOL declaration . If so .. 'sed' can change the line return character .
[21:57] <takko> kk4ewt that error above
[21:57] <wyth> vfw: Roger
[21:57] <Bashing-om> vfw: Yeah . that is the more descriptive :)
[21:58] <takko> Bashing-om, kk4ewt I opened it with Kate but It says it contained invalid (non utf-8) characters
[21:58] <vfw> wyth: So if this ever comes up again, it will be easy to do fresh install.  Nothing beats a fresh install. (I just did one a couple weeks ago.
[22:00] <wyth> vfw: A fresh install is what I'm trying to do. Can't believe I'm hung up this early in the process though. I've never felt like such a newb
[22:00] <takko> Bashing-om I am on linuxmint w/ KDE 17, not using winows at all
[22:01] <wyth> vfw: I'm on a liveusb of ubuntu right now, downloading the iso again, so I can try dd'ing the usb to see if that will get it to work to install
[22:04] <vfw> wyth: I'll tell you what I just did a few days ago;  there was a box with one 2TB drive and it had 4G swap, 55G /, and the rest /home/ but the 55G / partition was full.  So I just cut into the end of the drive, (shrunk /home/ partition) and created a 80G partition for /var.  So I just edited the fstab file and made a line for the new partition, (sda7) as mount point for /var  All is well again....
[22:05] <vfw> ...and copied /var/* to the new partition...
[22:06] <vfw> ... first renamed it /old-var/ and then copied it. Once I could see it would boot ok, I just rm -rf /old-var/