[07:38] <mattias|farm> tucemiux : yeah I plan to use the free space from the partitions currently used by debian for ubuntu. basicly just clean the partions so I dont have any crap laying around (without causing grub going haywire). Is gparted a part of the basic ubuntu install or should I look into this before attempting to remove the partitions?
[07:38] <deepheat> what was it
[07:39] <seank> deepheat: type    ifconfig eth0 | grep inet\ addr:
[07:39] <seank> deepheat: and copy/paste the output in here
[07:39] <deepheat> there is no output
[07:40] <seank> deepheat: grand.  what about just   ifconfig eth0  ?
[07:40] <deepheat> do you want me to do that on the laptop?
[07:40] <seank> deepheat: on the machine with the problem
[07:40] <edomeda> tucemiux, nah, too many deps to get install all the dev stuff on ubuntu.  Spend an hour installing all the missing lib-dev versions.
[07:40] <gigasoft> power is nothing without control
[07:40] <tucemiux> mattias|farm, the thing about gparted that you have to remember is: do not use any mounted partition!  You should really use a live CD or ubuntu installation CD unless you know what youre doing
[07:40] <mattias|farm> tucemiux : ah, it should be possible to use ubunto to add grub again with a fresh config after removing the partions. big thanks for the support =) Ill get right on it
[07:40] <deepheat> ok that worked give me a minute to get the text across...
[07:41] <mattias|farm> tucemiux : yeah Ill use a ubuntu install cd
[07:41] <seank> deepheat: not all the output of   ifconfig eth0, just the inet addr: .... line
[07:41] <tucemiux> mattias|farm, once you do the ubuntu install grub will configure itself
[07:42] <deepheat> inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS> Bcast <IP_ADDRESS> mask: <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:42] <mattias|farm> tucemiux : yep, sounds good =) big thanks and have a good weekend
[07:42] <tucemiux> you too
[07:42] <deepheat> am i meant to have a inet6 addr?
[07:42] <seank> deepheat: no.
[07:42] <deepheat> oh well it says i do
[07:43] <seank> deepheat: you may have one
[07:43] <seank> deepheat: thats fine
[07:43] <seank> deepheat: were you doing the pings earlier on the machine with the problem?
[07:43] <deepheat> yes
[07:43] <seank> deepheat: ping <IP_ADDRESS>   -- does that still work?
[07:43] <deepheat> yes
[07:44] <seank> deepheat: and    host -t a google.com
[07:44] <seank> deepheat: that returns several "google.com has address" lines?
[07:44] <deepheat> yes
[07:44] <seank> deepheat: then type the   telnet google.com 80   again
[07:44] <Diverdude> is it possible to get a dictionary for emacs?
[07:45] <seank> deepheat: then after connected, type GET / HTTP/1.1
[07:45] <jayjaymires> I'm still trying to figure out what ping means
[07:45] <seank> deepheat: and hit enter twice
[07:45] <deepheat> it worked that time
[07:45] <seank> deepheat: you got back a bunch of html?
[07:45] <deepheat> yeah then 'connection closed by foreign host'
[07:46] <seank> deepheat: ok so... dont see a problem... in the menu, go to system->preferences->network proxy
[07:46] <seank> deepheat: you set to direct connection ?
[07:46] <deepheat> yes
[07:47] <nikos_> ΕΧΩ ΠΡΟΒΛΗΜΑ ΣΤΟ BOOT MENU
[07:47] <IdleOne> !gr
[07:47] <seank> deepheat: well that telnet to google.com 80 means you connected to the webserver and downloaded the html which is what firefox would do... so if you open firefox and type in google.com, the page should come up.
[07:47] <IdleOne> nikos_: /join #ubuntu-gr
[07:48] <nikos_> ΕΧΩ ΠΡΟΒΛΗΜΑ ΣΤΟ BOOT MENOU
[07:48] <deepheat> im not pulling your chain
[07:48] <deepheat> 9.04 works 9.10 doesnt
[07:48] <SalmonSam> hey , anyone using arista transcoder unable to use the pantent free presets?
[07:48] <nikos_> ΕΧΩ ΠΡΟΒΛΗΜΑ ΣΤΟ0 BOOT MENU
[07:49] <seank> deepheat: i dont know what to tell you.  you're connected, you can get to sites.
[07:49] <frybye> nikos_: this is an english langauge support channel - for Greek language support see above...
[07:49] <SalmonSam> running it from a terminal shows this error: http://pastebin.com/m67d68143
[07:49] <nikos_> EXV PROBLHMA STO BOOT MENU
[07:49] <rww> ubottu: gr | nikos_
[07:49] <diddy> Anybody knows when the programmers will fix Flash on the 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[07:50] <nikos_> HHHG
[07:50] <diddy> The Flash problems drive me nuts
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> diddy:  given the attitude adobe has had about linux lately.. dont hold your breath
[07:50] <nikos_> BBB
[07:50] <frybye> diddy: get a new apple i-pad - not flash problems at all.. ;(
[07:50] <seank> diddy: there is a 64bit flash driver for linux from adobe, its beta, but it works for most things.
[07:50] <seank> diddy: or plugin i should say
[07:51] <koshari> seank theres actually even a 10.1 alpha 64 bit plugin
[07:51] <deepheat> seank: thanks for your time
[07:54] <infid> can ubuntu run on a mac mini? i heard it will fry the cpu
[07:55] <raven> unison: how to exclude the .-files (hidden/config) in a home forlder?
[07:56] <meowkbuntu> hi how do i find teh device name for my usb eg /dev/.../...
[07:56] <rumpsy> meowkbuntu: lsusb
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> infid:  never hear that myth befor. the xbmc guys and mythbuntu guys use mac minis and appletv's i hear
[07:56] <tertitten> anyone know how to get system-notifications updated to looking like in fedora, opensuse, mandriva etc ?
[07:57] <rumpsy> meowkbuntu: or, sudo fdisk -l
[07:57] <raven> unison: how to exclude the .-files (hidden/config) in a home forlder?
[07:58] <infid> ok
[07:58] <meowkbuntu> rumpsy: no lsusb does not give teh device parth
[07:58] <rumpsy> meowkbuntu: prefix it with sudo and try
[07:58] <rumpsy> meowkbuntu: means, sudo lsusb
[07:58] <FG2> i had some files on a vdi file that had no os installed. nor does it have guestadditions installed. how can i get those files from that disk?]
[07:59] <llutz> meowkbuntu:  check dmesg or fdisk, depending on what kind of usb-device you're looking for
[07:59] <mmaksimov_> deepheat: is your problem solved?
[08:00] <jesse> whats a good editor in linux?
[08:00] <FG2> jesse, nano
[08:00] <raven> jesse kate
[08:00] <meowkbuntu> rumpsy: sudo lsusb gives the usb name not teh patn eg /dev/.../...
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> editor to use.. depends on what you are editing
[08:01] <rumpsy> meowkbuntu: i given another thing, sudo fdisk -l
[08:01] <raven> Guest23883, what are you going to do with this editor - only text or do you need an ide?
[08:01] <Guest23883> just text
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> Guest23883:  i like 'geany' a lot lately
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> Guest23883:  it is worth while to learn vi eventually
[08:01] <raven> Guest23883, gedit
[08:01] <meowkbuntu> ok is /dev/sdc1 a usb path name
[08:02] <FG2> i had some files on a vdi file that had no os installed. nor does it have guestadditions installed. how can i get those files from that disk?]
[08:02] <llutz> meowkbuntu:  check dmesg
[08:02] <candy> I am having problem with opening open office docement can anybody help me
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> FG2:  those are virtualbox drive images right?  if so make vbox mount them to its  system and boot a live cd image..  then copy the stuff whefer you want
[08:02] <rumpsy> meowkbuntu: can you pastebin it?, so that i can able to tell you the exact thing
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> FG2:  its proberly possible to convert them where you can mount them directly
[08:03] <rumpsy> candy: ?
[08:03] <Rishab_> morning ubuntu
[08:03] <candy> when i open word then a recovery wimdow pop ups and asks me to click on start recovery
[08:03] <FG2> Dr_Willis, I can with a livecd image.. but what next after that? Shared folders wont work as guestadditions isn't installed?
[08:04] <rumpsy> candy: okay click to recovery
[08:04] <meowkbuntu> llutz: thtas to much info dont know what to look for. there should be a command that just reads all the devices path names
[08:04] <FG2> *can boot with
[08:04] <candy> rumpsy, i clicked then it get stuck everytime
[08:04] <candy> i cant even open new document to create one
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> FG2:  the OS you are running is basically a real machine/os  - you could use ssh, or samba or whatever if you wanted over the network
[08:04] <rumpsy> candy: give time to recover
[08:04] <llutz> meowkbuntu: there isn't, so if you don't know you have to check dmesg+fdisk
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> FG2:  the vbbox guest may be faster way.. but ssh can do it. :)
[08:05] <candy> rumpsy, ya i gave time and they asked me to click finish i did.. after that stucking thing is going on
[08:05] <linkiduu> there is no close button and minimise button in my pc
[08:05] <Rishab_> while starting my system desktop fails to load but else every thing working fine.. i can see my panner, use internet but fails to open the computer.. can any one tell me were the problem lies ??
[08:05] <FG2> Dr_Willis, How can I use ssh? Install opensshd on the vbox and then ssh it?
[08:05] <linkiduu> only blank windows
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> FG2:   or ssh out from vbox to the host os..
[08:05] <rumpsy> candy: what is that size of that file size, that you opened?
[08:06] <candy> rumpsy, i cant do anything with any open office thing..
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> FG2:  theres live cd's that have ssh and scp allready included
[08:06] <rumpsy> candy: what is that size of that file, that you opened?
[08:06] <unitedpotsmokers> hello... someone can help me, what should i do for this? :: [Global Notice] Hi all, services and channel states have now been migrated over to the new production network. We're migrating utility bots/pseudoservers as we speak and we're nearly ready for users. Users connected to calvino, crichton, kubrick, leguin and verne may wish to make sure they are re-connecting to chat.freenode.net as these servers will not be immediately li
[08:06] <unitedpotsmokers> nked on newnet as they are pending upgrades first. Thank you!
[08:06] <linkiduu> how to restart gnome ?
[08:06] <candy> rumpsy, 40 mb
[08:06] <rumpsy> oh, my god!
[08:06] <Guest23883> whats a good video editor?
[08:06] <Rishab_> even gdm restart makes no difference
[08:06] <meowkbuntu> llutz: y cant i kist right click device and get that info would be easier for everybody
[08:07] <linkiduu> good video editor is handbrake
[08:07] <Rishab_> any one with clues??
[08:07] <meowkbuntu> kist = just
[08:07] <llutz> meowkbuntu: write a feature request to the devs
[08:07] <unitedpotsmokers> Guest23883: KINO
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> unitedpotsmokers:  connect to chat.freenode.net if you want..
[08:07] <rumpsy> candy: 40mb !
[08:07] <candy> rumpsy, what to do?
[08:07] <meowkbuntu> llutz: dont know how
[08:07] <candy> rumpsy, ya
[08:07] <linkiduu> yes Kino is also good
[08:07] <cycrosism> FG2: sudo apt-get install openssh-server then write ifconfig and ssh into that IP
[08:07] <unitedpotsmokers> Dr_Willis: thanks... so i must type " /server chat.freenode.net?
[08:07] <rumpsy> candy: wait, i'm working on it
[08:07] <Rishab_> while starting my system desktop fails to load but else every thing working fine.. i can see my panner, use internet but fails to open the computer.. can any one tell me were the problem lies ??
[08:08] <Guest23883> i didnt get anything from kido...
[08:08] <candy> rumpsy,  ok ok
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> unitedpotsmokers:  i doubt if its needed.. since you are still here.. but you can do that command now if you want to
[08:08] <superbee> Hey buntu peeps, i wonna do a PXE boot of my trusty 8.04(best so far:-))
[08:08] <linkiduu> some one please tell how to get the minimise, maximise, close buttons
[08:08] <FG2> cycrosism, yea  doin that
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  you got titlebars? can you move windowss around?
[08:08] <unitedpotsmokers> Dr_Willis: i think i already user that server...
[08:08] <unitedpotsmokers> * Looking up irc.ubuntu.com
[08:08] <unitedpotsmokers> * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 8001...
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> unitedpotsmokers:  then its not worth worring about. :)
[08:09] <linkiduu> Dr_willis : No there is not title bar
[08:09] <llutz> linkiduu: "metacity --replace"
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  so your 'window decorations' have vanishes.. see what llutz  said..
[08:09] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: you can use internet -- how?
[08:09] <rumpsy> candy: open, just the openoffice
[08:09] <unitedpotsmokers> Dr_Willis: ok.. thanks :)
[08:09] <candy> rumpsy, sorry sorry its 43 kb not mb
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  alt-f2 run 'metacity --replace'
[08:09] <rumpsy> candy: o_O
[08:10] <linkiduu> yay :D
[08:10] <rumpsy> candy: Are you sure now?
[08:10] <Rishab_> i can use the application as my pannel is visible but any thing fails to open from places mmaksimov_
[08:10] <linkiduu> got it back ..thanks guys
[08:10] <candy> ya i saw the properties just now after doing force quit to that document
[08:10] <linkiduu> but I lost all my decorations I had made
[08:10] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: You mean, from places menu?
[08:10] <rumpsy> candy: goto accessories and open openoffice
[08:10] <superbee> Ok. Lemmi shut up and watch
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  made?
[08:11] <candy> rumpsy, same thing comes
[08:11] <linkiduu> not made.. :P customisations
[08:11] <Rishab_> yes mmaksimov_
[08:11] <tertitten> anyone know how to get system-notifications updated to looking like in fedora, opensuse, mandriva etc ?
[08:11] <FG2> /etc/init.d/sshd start ???
[08:11] <rumpsy> don't open that file !
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  you are now using metacity instead of compiz, or emerald..  use compiz --replace to switch to compiz
[08:11] <meowkbuntu> rumpsy: llutz i'm using unetbootin to creat a bootable usb from an iso
[08:11] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: you're running ubuntu 9.10, right?
[08:11] <cycrosism> FG2: try sudo before it
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  or emerald --replace (but i would suggest not bothering with emerald)
[08:11] <Gralamin> Hello. I'm trying to get FGLRX to work, and am getting a "(EE) fglrx(0): CAIL: CAIL_ASICSetp failed, error 1" on startup. Anyone know the cause?
[08:11] <Rishab_> yes
[08:11] <candy> rumpsy, same recovery pop up.. and sam story.. cant do anthing with any of openoffice
[08:11] <meowkbuntu> so i ned to know teh usb path
[08:11] <rumpsy> candy:  give don't recover
[08:12] <linkiduu> Dr_Willis : thanks for help :)
[08:12] <rumpsy> candy: tell see what happens for that
[08:12] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: open the terminal, then run   nautilus
[08:12] <candy> rumpsy, ya this is working
[08:12] <rumpsy> meowkbuntu: pastebin the result of fdisk -l
[08:12] <candy> rumpsy, but i got to lose that document right??
[08:12] <FG2> cycrosism, ok now logged in to host system from the guest box via ssh. how to transfer those files ?
[08:12] <Rishab_> is "run nautilus" a command mmaksimov_
[08:12] <rumpsy> candy: no !
[08:13] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: no, just   nautilus
[08:13] <cycrosism> FG2: Are you using Ubuntu on the host system?
[08:13] <rumpsy> candy: opened?
[08:13] <hyperstream> !dvb
[08:13] <FG2> cycrosism, yep
[08:13] <linkiduu> how do I use ssh keys ?
[08:13] <candy> rumpsy, that document didnt opened but i can work on new one
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | linkiduu
[08:13] <infid> can irssi be set to only log what i say to a channel?
[08:13] <rumpsy> candy: goto tools and then to options
[08:13] <cycrosism> FG2: Places > Connect to server And then make the protocol SSH and write in the IP and username then click OK and it will prompt you for a password
[08:13] <linkiduu> !ssh
[08:14] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ nothing happen it just get stuck in next line
[08:14] <chetnick_pc> hi.
[08:14] <candy> rumpsy, then?
[08:14] <FG2> cycrosism, ok thanks  will try     thanks Dr_Willis to give a push in right dircection
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  read wjhat the bot said.
[08:14] <cycrosism> FG2: Then drag and drop files
[08:14] <rumpsy> candy: on the left hand side, click memory
[08:14] <linkiduu> I know how to connect to ssh using terminal... ssh root@MYIP
[08:14] <linkiduu> but how can I autologin using keys ?
[08:15] <infid> linkiduu: ssh-keygen
[08:15] <candy> rumpsy, then?
[08:15] <linkiduu> infid : I have generated key in my server
[08:15] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: strange. How did it start? I mean, are you working on a fresh install, or has it been working some time ago?
[08:15] <linkiduu> how can I use it in ubuntu terminal ?
[08:15] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ i think some services relating to nautils got stop..
[08:15] <MaRLBoRo> please help to manage my iphone music in ubuntu
[08:16] <infid> linkiduu: same way 'ssh foo@bar'
[08:16] <rumpsy> candy: now increase the graphics usage from 20 to 100
[08:16] <MaRLBoRo> what application should i need to transfer my mp3 in iphone
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  i think the ssh docs given - mention the 'ssh-copy-id' command :) thats handy for passwordless logins - if thats what you want
[08:16] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ i install the OS 2 hours ago
[08:16] <llutz> linkiduu: create keys on your local machine, copy your pub-key to the remote machine (ssh-copy-id)
[08:16] <candy> rumpsy, ya i did.. wait i ll try now to open that document
[08:16] <linkiduu> but my ip is not static
[08:16] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: 2 hours, Was it working at first?
[08:16] <linkiduu> its dynamic ip ( client ) server is static ip
[08:17] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ every thing was working fine before
[08:17] <llutz> linkiduu: use dyndns, no-ip.com
[08:17] <rumpsy> candy: And decrease, the undo- "number of steps" to 50
[08:17] <Gralamin> Hmmm If I get a "Unable to open display (Null)" error from fglrxinfo, what does that likely mean?
[08:17] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ i just installed the java and loged out
[08:18] <Rishab_> for next login it seems to be in bad shape ..
[08:18] <hyperstream> !Mythtv
[08:18] <candy> rumpsy, then
[08:18] <willemb> Guys, can anyone give me advice on a cupport mailbox folder?
[08:18] <rumpsy> candy: over, try to open that 43kb doc
[08:18] <willemb> corrupt, even?
[08:19] <candy> rumpsy, just a moment please
[08:19] <rumpsy> candy: ;)
[08:19] <devD> I have played a game supertux and after exiting all my panel icons got messed up even they were fixed, now whenever I start some thing like xchat its not visible on system tray, when I close it does not go to tray but stops.
[08:19] <linkiduu> how to export man page to html ?
[08:19] <linkiduu> with all colours , etc
[08:19] <candy> rumpsy, its not responding:-(
[08:20] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: and after logging in again it's all broken?
[08:20] <llutz> linkiduu: use man2html
[08:20] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_  xactly
[08:20] <rumpsy> candy: may be, that should be corrupted, try to open someother doc
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  theres man2html tools out there.
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  theres web sites with the man pages on them also allready done
[08:20] <linkiduu> ok.. will apt-get install man2html work ?
[08:20] <candy> rumpsy, othes i can easily open and edit
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> linkiduu:  check the package manager for such a tool
[08:21] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ very strange that i could access Application menu, system menu but not the places menu..
[08:21] <rumpsy> candy: where do you get that doc? , is that downloaded one
[08:21] <rww> !info man2html
[08:21] <candy> rumpsy, no i copied a long document from wikipedia with even images and pasted in odt
[08:21] <linkiduu> this bot is very intelligent :D
[08:22] <rww> although that one ends up installing a webserver with it O_O
[08:22] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: btw, did the automatic update application pop up?
[08:22] <rumpsy> candy: okay, try to do that again..
[08:22] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ i guess no actually i just re-logined not re booted
[08:22] <candy> rumpsy, okay. thanks rumpsy.
[08:23] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: yeah, you said exactly this, re-login.
[08:23] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ should i reboot it
[08:23] <linkiduu> lol I had nginx. on my localhost..it failed to intall..
[08:23] <infid> do any major game companies create games that work in linux?
[08:24] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: not really sure. That's just a guess: update took place after a fresh install, and it broke something inside the system. Reboot may help in this case...
[08:24] <linkiduu> infid. sadly no..but I love a game called Assault Cube
[08:24] <mmaksimov_> Rishab_: if it does not help, I'm out of ideas, try asking around :(
[08:24] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ okay  i will be back..
[08:25] <candy> rumpsy, hey how to quit from here and get to another room?? i mean whats the command?
[08:25] <Rishab_> mmaksimov_ thx any ways
[08:25] <superbee> Mythbuntu?
[08:25] <rumpsy> candy: /part
[08:25] <rumpsy> candy: to join another, /join #ubuntu
[08:25] <evinxi> a
[08:26] <candy> rumpsy, but i m already in ubuntu
[08:26] <rumpsy> candy: that was an example
[08:26] <rumpsy> candy: what channel you want? replace that in ubuntu
[08:27] <infid> what's the main thing the next major version of ubuntu is supposed to have?
[08:27] <candy> rumpsy, but i dont know any other channels.. suggest me some
[08:27] <iceroot> infid: LTS
[08:27] <guntbert> candy: you can leave #ubuntu open and just join any other channel by typing /join #otherchannel
[08:27] <linkiduu> what is difference between aptitude and apt-get ?
[08:27] <rumpsy> candy: use this command, /list, this will list you channel list
[08:27] <iceroot> linkiduu: debian developers say that aptitude can handle dependencies better
[08:28] <candy> guntbert, ok
[08:28] <candy> rumpsy, ok
[08:29] <guntbert> candy: rumpsy: /list is not too good on this network - use /msg alis help list instead
[08:29] <iceroot> linkiduu: (from debian) aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution                       where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>).  Like apt-get, it                       can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at                       the Y/n/q/? prompt us
[08:29] <candy> guntbert, i see
[08:30] <superbee> Ahem, bsd ports
[08:30] <rumpsy> candy: use this, instea, /msg alis help list
[08:30] <infid> heh
[08:30] <rumpsy> candy: use this, instead, /msg alis help list
[08:30] <candy> rumpsy, ok
[08:31] <cycrosism> Why is freenode muted
[08:31] <cycrosism> #freenode?
[08:31] <linkiduu> when I typed aptitude on terminal , I got a nice gui
[08:32] <infid> yeah
[08:32] <llutz> linkiduu: another difference to apt-get
[08:32] <psycho_oreos> cycrosism, too many idiots talking random stuff and not obeying channel rules
[08:35] <cycrosism> WOW
[08:35] <kostkon> nooooo!
[08:35] <cycrosism> that was weird
[08:35] <Gralamin> My X seems to be seg-faulting whenever I try to start it. FGLRX is doing something weird.
[08:35] <linkiduu> lol
[08:35] <FG2> candy: nope its normal their moving to new servers
[08:35] <tertitten> ha ha ha
[08:35] <linkiduu> lol
[08:35] <cycrosism> lol
[08:35] <cycrosism> owned
[08:35] <rww> candy: no, this is a planned update
[08:35] <cycrosism> lo,l
[08:35] <iflema> :)
[08:35] <kostkon> this is the end of the world!
[08:35] <cycrosism> xD
[08:35] <jmad980> XD
[08:35] <lilzeus-web> what happened?
[08:35] <FG2> EVERBODY: THIS is A PLANNED UPDATE AND MOVEMENT.. (AND OFCOURSE FUN TIME FOR US)
[08:35] <res> lilzeus-web: what FG2 said
[08:35] <rww> lilzeus-web: planned server update, hold on to your hat
[08:35] <cycrosism> lilzeus-web: server migration
[08:35] <linkiduu> this is like matix :D
[08:36] <jmad980> well if you wanted to know everyones IP address XD
[08:36] <candy> rww, ok i see
[08:36] <cycrosism> lol
[08:36] <cycrosism> looks like a massive ddos
[08:36] <purplefool> *shit!  left my hat downstairs!!!*
[08:36] <linkiduu> ip
[08:36] <linkiduu> !
[08:36] <Sacho> cycrosism: it's not :)
[08:36] <iflema> :)
[08:36] <wgrant> cycrosism: Well, it's basically moving *everybody* onto a new set of servers.
[08:36] <pshr_> he he netsplit
[08:36] <pshr_> :P
[08:36] <linkiduu> q
[08:36] <linkiduu> clear
[08:36] <willemb> What is up with thunderbird/quit
[08:37] <rumpsy> i hate spammer
[08:37] <purplefool> are there really 21 hundred people here?
[08:37] <Sacho> not really
[08:37] <Sacho> 857 currently.
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> purplefool:  i count 857
[08:37] <purplefool> thousand i meant!
[08:37] <ziggz> ay guys i got my skype to work!!!!!!!!!
[08:37] <purplefool> grats
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> purplefool:  ive seen 3000
[08:37] <psycho_oreos> its not really spamming, its ircd upgrade, users are getting shifted
[08:37] <candy> 860 now
[08:37] <linkiduu> looks like its stable now :D
[08:38] <FG2> that should be all what connect
[08:38] <FG2> we were the first ones
[08:38] <mmaksimov> purplefool: my client says 860+
[08:38] <purplefool> just noticing the change to 'Guest21360' and stuff...
[08:38] <linkiduu> ya..some guy came and posted announcement :D
[08:38] <ziggz> how do add a volume control to the panel??????
[08:39] <linkiduu> wow..is it never ending ?
[08:39] <jmad980> linkiduu: nope still got a few hundred nicks to goo
[08:40] <APERSON> server maintenance
[08:40] <APERSON> yay!
[08:40] <purplefool> 'nicks'? interesting...
[08:40] <linkiduu> how can I get a colour to my username ? o_0
[08:40]  * jmad980 is watching first flood of freenode
[08:41] <devD_> whats it
[08:41] <cycrosism> r ppl still joining lol
[08:41] <Gralamin> So, I have a Radeon Mobility HD 3650. Which should be supported by Catalyst 9.12 right?
[08:41] <purplefool> linkiduu, would suggest in settings...
[08:41] <iflema> purplefool lol... hat downstairs ROFL
[08:42] <purplefool> iflema, :)
[08:42] <raven> unison: how to exclude the hidden folders?
[08:42] <borix> guys, can anyone point to a rigorous comparison between ubuntu (preferably karmic) and windows (preferably xp-vista-7)?
[08:42] <borix> i mean, a good document/paper/report, etc...?
[08:42] <linkiduu> ubuntu pawns all windows :)
[08:42] <MinusSeven> how come ChanServ is in every channel?
[08:43] <jussi01> MinusSeven: chanserv is freenodes channel services bot - ask more in #freenode
[08:43] <enzotib> MinusSeven: is a service
[08:43]  * iflema :*)
[08:43] <purplefool> ok, looks like questions can now be asked:  how do i set the password on my 'default' keyring?
[08:43] <borix> @linkiduu: that it does, and even better, but i need a good reference...
[08:43] <MinusSeven> its just that it's in a channel I made, and its not registered
[08:43] <mneptok> MinusSeven: please discuss that in #freenode
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> MinusSeven:  it likes you and wants to chat. :)
[08:47]  * FG2 removes operator status from FloodBot2
[08:47]  * FG2 removes operator status from FloodBot2
[08:49]  * FG2 removes operator status from ChanServ
[08:49] <mneptok> FG2: plese stop
[08:49] <Gatewayy> take that chanserv
[08:49] <FG2> ok sorry
[08:49] <linkiduu> is it back to normal ?
[08:50] <rumpsy> no don't remove chanserv !
[08:50] <ardchoille> linkiduu: it's getting there
[08:50] <mneptok> linkiduu: #ubuntu rarely qualifies for any definition of "normal"
[08:50] <FG2> yeah linkiduu nearly read the global notice from christel
[08:51] <FG2> test
[08:52] <rww> FG2: success
[08:52] <raven> unison: how to exclude the hidden folders?
[08:52] <borix> quit
[08:52] <FG2> thanks :)
[08:54] <linkiduu> how to make hidden folders who by default ?
[08:54] <linkiduu> show*
[08:54] <ardchoille> linkiduu: ctrl+h
[08:54] <FG2> ^H
[08:54] <swapy> guys tell me which is good http download manager for ubuntu
[08:55] <mneptok> swapy: wget
[08:55] <swapy> no
[08:55] <ardchoille> SwapMan: wget
[08:55] <swapy> i want good gui
[08:55] <ardchoille> SwapMan: then gwget
[08:55] <mneptok> swapy: gwget
[08:55] <swapy> even with good gui
[08:55] <linkiduu> btw I have recorded the flood :D
[08:55] <swapy> it has basic options
[08:55] <linkiduu> using gtk-record my dekstop :D
[08:56] <ardchoille> I hope Paraselene__ doesn't keep that up
[08:57] <FG2> whats the shell command to list all the bz2 archives in /usr/* ?
[08:57] <z3rongod> Hello
[08:58] <ardchoille> FG2:  in /usr and its subdirectories?   find /usr -name *.bz2
[08:58] <mneptok> FG2: ls -Rl /usr | grep .bz2
[08:58] <hithlain> hi, I made a mistake, I installed the nvidia drivers, but I have an ATI. So I uninstalled nvidia ones, and install ati drivers from the software repository, but ubuntu continues to try to load nvidia, and not ati. What should I do? Thanks
[08:58] <kindofabuzz> uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[08:58] <hithlain> uninstall with the ubunta software manager
[08:58] <hithlain> (ubuntu)
[08:59] <ardchoille> FG2: I like mneptok's command better :)
[08:59] <z3rongod> I am running a HLDS (game) server on windows 7 and i am concerned about CPU and RAM usage. On windows the server uses about 62MB Private set memory and 105 MB virtual memory, while CPU usage on average is about 0.5 % of an AMD 5000 2.61 dual core.
[08:59] <z3rongod> Will i have any significant gains in performance?
[08:59] <z3rongod> I mean less CPU and RAM usage?
[08:59] <Sacho> ...what?
[09:00] <ardchoille> z3rongod: you need to ask in #windows
[09:00] <quietone> apologies to all - would someone mind tell me why I am getting "cannot send to channel" on two other channels.
[09:00] <z3rongod> No i mean i want to try it on ubuntu :)
[09:00] <rww> quietone: which channels?
[09:01] <ardchoille> quietone: That sounds like a channel mode in those channels
[09:01] <z3rongod> The thing is i don't have another HDD running around and i don't know if it's suitable to try it on a live CD
[09:01] <quietone> #xchat and #freenode
[09:01] <rww> quietone: you need to be registered and identified with Nickserv to speak in #freenode right now. Probably the same with Xchat.
[09:01] <z3rongod> to test differences using a live CD i mean
[09:01] <rww> ubottu: register | quietone
[09:02] <quietone> I am registered and identified
[09:02] <herve> <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:02] <z3rongod> Does ubuntu have an utility to see the CPU and RAM usage of an application?
[09:02] <rww> quietone: no, you aren't
[09:02] <ardchoille> quietone: you aren't
[09:02] <quietone> this is frustrating. i keep getting unregistered
[09:02] <FG2> again ???
[09:02] <rww> quietone: Freenode recently migrated servers, you likely were identified, and now aren't.
[09:02] <FG2> ROFL
[09:03] <willemb> Greetings, can someone help me troubleshoot a Thunderbird problem in ubuntu, please?
[09:03] <z3rongod> Does ubuntu have an utility to see the CPU and RAM usage of an application?
[09:03] <faileas> yeah, you can use htop or top
[09:04] <FG2> z3rongod, System->Administration->System Monitor
[09:04] <ardchoille> Can someone /b high-rez and Paraselene__ please
[09:04] <z3rongod> thanks FG2 noted
[09:04] <z3rongod> Also pardon my ignorance but what about virtual RAM on ubuntu? Is this feature available?
[09:05] <willemb> When downloading email from a certain account, the attachments dissappear.  The same email to a different one works fine
[09:05] <FG2> You essentially mean swap.
[09:05] <z3rongod> i think so FG2
[09:05] <FG2> Its also marked on the graph in System Monitor.
[09:05] <quietone> thanks folks: but i still don't know what to do. Now I get "Please log in before attempting to verify your registration." but there doesn't seem to be a "log in" command
[09:06] <z3rongod> FG2 i want to try to determine if there are any significant gains in performances for an application. I don't have another HDD to install ubuntu, will it matter if i try it on a live CD ?
[09:06] <FG2> z3rongod, Its also marked on the double graph of memory, Resources tab, in green color.
[09:06] <FG2> You can dual boot
[09:07] <z3rongod> FG2 last time i installed ubuntu on a hdd with windows, it f***ed up windows' boot
[09:07] <willemb> z3rongod:  yes, livecd has lots of overhead because cdroms are much slower than hard drives
[09:08] <z3rongod> willemb good point
[09:08] <nibbler_> can i configure evolution-rss where to save my feeds? i'd like to push them to my imap server, so i have my computers synced on that...?
[09:09] <z3rongod> is it possible to limit the amount of ram an application can use under ubuntu ?
[09:09] <nibbler_> z3rongod, if, then with ulimit
[09:09] <z3rongod> ulimit ok noted thanks nibbler_
[09:09] <m13e37> hey guys
[09:09] <m13e37> anyone could tell me best way to learn linux?
[09:10] <kinja-sheep> m13e37: By using linux as a main operating system.
[09:10] <m13e37> so far I do
[09:10] <ardchoille> m13e37: install it and use it, and stick around this channel and learn from watching :)
[09:10] <nibbler_> z3rongod, http://ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html pretty asy it seems - no idea where to tell what process you mean....
[09:10] <m13e37> but I'm just learning programming on it and don;t have really problems to solve on Linux
[09:11] <ardchoille> m13e37: you can learn quite a bit just by watching others get help
[09:11] <danijel> DaNiJeL
[09:11] <m13e37> any way to stop this spam xxx connected/left?
[09:11] <boss> wenas
[09:11] <kinja-sheep> m13e37: What client are you using?
[09:12] <z3rongod> nibbler_ i could then just look at the resource consumption when the app is off and add the limit on top of it
[09:12] <m13e37> Xchat
[09:12] <danijel> hello everybody
[09:12] <m13e37> gnome
[09:12] <m13e37> hi
[09:12] <z3rongod> Oh wait
[09:12] <Gralamin> Okay, this is going to be a very very stupid question, but...
[09:12] <kinja-sheep> m13e37: Right-click on your channel's tree/tab and untick it.
[09:12] <m13e37> oh thank
[09:12] <m13e37> s
[09:12] <z3rongod> -v   The maximum amount of virtual memory available to the process. So there's a way
[09:12] <kinja-sheep> m13e37: "Hide Join/Part Messages"
[09:12] <m13e37> another useful tip
[09:12] <freeride> guys, please help. I've got a lot of files in the folder and  want to add them to a separate archive. How to do that?
[09:13] <nibbler_> z3rongod, yep, seems easy with that
[09:13] <shrini> hello all
[09:13] <z3rongod> Is there a guide on how to install ubuntu on a hdd that has windows on it, in order to preserve window's boot and not do something wrong?
[09:13] <shrini> need help on cups
[09:13] <m13e37> z3rongod
[09:13] <Gralamin> I have a Toshiba Satellite A350 Laptop. There is a proper bios for this on the canada site, but a completely different one on the american site for a different variation. How stupid would it be to try and flash with the american one when I don't have it?
[09:13] <shrini> i use canon lbp 2000 printer
[09:13] <danijel> zhiku li neko hrvatski?
[09:13] <quietone> please - where can I get help. my brand new registration password is not working.
[09:13] <kinja-sheep> !dualboot | z3rongod
[09:13] <m13e37> just install linux after xp install
[09:13] <ardchoille> !dualboot | z3rongod
[09:13] <m13e37> but on other partition
[09:14] <shrini> it is confidured. but not printing
[09:14] <m13e37> and ure good to go
[09:14] <rww> quietone: /join #freenode, and then /msg one of the people in there with ops (@) or voice (+)
[09:14] <freeride> guys, please help. I've got a lot of files in the folder and  want to add them to a separate archive. How to do that?
[09:14] <z3rongod> Thanks
[09:14] <z3rongod> m13e37 i did that and windows didn't boot after :)
[09:14] <quietone> rww: i can't send any message to #freenode
[09:14] <rww> quietone: hence me suggesting /msg
[09:14] <z3rongod> I'll go check the guide
[09:14] <rww> quietone: people voiced or opped in there are network operators, and can help you with that.
[09:14] <frogzoo> !docs > m13e37
[09:14] <m13e37> z3rongod, I did it like = install XP, install Linux = I have GRUB as boot manager and I can choose
[09:15] <rww> quietone: (/msg is private message, not in-channel message)
[09:15] <quietone> rww: i will try. I don't know about /msg will override the error I am getting
[09:15] <rww> quietone: it will
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  the services/servers are also in a b it of a mixxup right now. so there maybe  some issues going on
[09:15] <rww> quietone: you'd do "/msg rww this is a message" to send me a message; replace my nick with one of the opers in #freenode
[09:16] <chad__> Hey there, anyone have a moment? Just trying to figure out how to set windows in GRUB to dualboot... Only part I am stuck on is figuring out what my windows would be (hd0,0;0,1;so on)
[09:17] <aishumoorthy> chat, wat happened..?
[09:17] <aishumoorthy> *chad
[09:17] <m13e37> windows is hd0
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> chat using grub1 or grub2 ?
[09:17] <m13e37> I guess
[09:17] <chad__> Not sure... Not a pro at linux ^^ Just following a guide
[09:17] <aishumoorthy> chad__:
[09:17] <danijel> did canon pixma IP1800 work with driver for canon Ip2000
[09:17] <danijel> ?
[09:18] <m13e37> ubuntu installation doesnt need a guide is veery simple :D
[09:18] <chad__> My windows sector is ---> /dev/sda3            2624       65077   501655552    7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:18] <aishumoorthy> chad__: are u in the partitioning step..?
[09:18] <nixjr> I recently bought a usb irda, the drivers came with a readme but i dont understand what its asking me to do, could anyone explain?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1244872
[09:18] <m13e37> danijel, rather ask google
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> chad__:  You dont have ubuntu installed yet? or is it installed and just not showing windows in the grub menus>
[09:19] <danijel> or try better
[09:19] <z3rongod> can i install ubuntu on a NTFS format partiton ?
[09:19] <cycrosism> z3rongod: nop
[09:19] <z3rongod> crap
[09:19] <wgrant> !wubi | z3rongod
[09:19] <aishumoorthy> no u have to create a new partition ext
[09:19] <chad__> It doesn't even boot the grub menu tbh, I am using Ubuntu, and windows 7 was the original install... It's just adding windows 7 to the grub menu... When my computer loads it doesn't even show me a menu to select from
[09:19] <aishumoorthy> ext3 or ext4
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> z3rongod:  er, no. unless you want to use Wubi.. and i DONT reccomnd Wubi
[09:20] <z3rongod> yeah i will try to shrink the volume then
[09:20] <z3rongod> tho it seems it's not so good that im under windows 7
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> chad__:  what ubuntu did you inzstall? 9.10 or some other version? It boots straight to linux right now?
[09:20] <quietone> rww and all: thanks!
[09:21] <chad__> The latest version, 9.10 and it boots straight to Linux, yes
[09:21] <ubuntu910> #디씨마갤
[09:21] <ubuntu910> join #디씨마갤
[09:21] <ubuntu910> #디씨마갤
[09:21] <reinis> why is it that firefox has different keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu?
[09:21] <frogzoo> !cn
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> chad__:  rerun 'sudo update-grub' it should see/add windows to the grub menu.
[09:22] <nixjr> the readme for some drivers talks about kernel modules and firmware patches, can anyone explain what its talking about? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1244872
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> chad__:  this was a clean install and not an upgrade was it?
[09:22]  * iflema :/
[09:22] <chad__> Clean install, Shrunk the windows 7 partition and gave ubuntu 100GB; 10GB swap
[09:22] <hyperstream> new ircd is finally up
[09:22] <m13e37> hm :/
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Odd that it dident see/show windows automatically
[09:22] <r522> hola buenos dias me acabo de comprar un portatil samsung al que le instale el karmic, todo me funciona perfecto a falta de solo dos cosas, configurar dos cosas, las teclas de funcion del teclado (algo que no me quita el sueño) y configurar el touchpad multitactil cada vez que hago un gesto con dos dedos el raton se vuelve loco se podria configurar con en windows, un  saludo
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> !es | r522
[09:23] <m13e37> lol
[09:23] <linkiduu> English please
[09:23] <chad__> Okay it displays it from the terminal, Now what do I have to do?
[09:23] <m13e37> it displays what?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> chad__:  huh?
[09:23] <chad__> One moment, I'll pastebin to avoid spam
[09:24] <chad__> http://pastebin.com/d3ca35110
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> i dont even knwo iif the grub menu hides/autohides or not by default ive tweaked mine so much
[09:24] <linkiduu> its not a question to be asked here..but is there any ssh client for mobile phones ?
[09:24] <chad__> (Vista being the recovery drive)
[09:24] <m13e37> chad now try to reboot
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> chad__:  see if you see the grub menu now at boot. perhaps need to hit the escape jkey
[09:25] <m13e37> and see if theres boot menu
[09:25] <chad__> For sure, I'll try to reboot now...brb!
[09:25] <kinja-sheep> linkiduu: Not really. You would have to find out yourself (using your mobile phone's apps marketplace or such).
[09:25] <r522> i can't go to chanel ubuntu-es
[09:25] <linkiduu> how can I stop the boot menu to show recovery modes, etc
[09:25] <z3rongod> LOL
[09:25] <z3rongod> i can only shrink 800 mb
[09:25] <z3rongod> out of 16 GB of free space
[09:25] <linkiduu> it shows a lot of option ubuntu 9.10 , 9.10 recovery
[09:26] <linkiduu> etc
[09:26] <iflema> linkiduu /etc/default/grub @ the bottom... the update-grub
[09:26] <iflema> linkiduu then
[09:27] <linkiduu> yes please
[09:28] <linkiduu> iflema mate..the directory u gave was empty
[09:28] <iflema> linkiduu that 4 grub2
[09:28] <chad__> Thanks a million guys! :) Worked like a charm
[09:28] <ruien> I am new to the "Upstart" boot system introduced in Ubuntu. I need to get SSHd running at boot on a machine that I have root access to right now. A fresh xubuntu 9.10 has been installed, and I believe that it includes an SSH daemon. If so, does anyone know how to schedule it to activate on boot?
[09:28] <linkiduu> I use ubuntu 9.10
[09:29] <iceroot> ruien: sudo apt-get install openssh-server   that is all, its starting automaticly at boot after installation
[09:29] <iflema> linkiduu grub = /boot/grub/menu.lst   edit and reboot
[09:29] <linkiduu> ok
[09:29] <linkiduu> thanks
[09:29] <nixjr> the readme for my hardware says "install the driver into the kernel loadable modules directory for IrDA (.../kernel/drivers/net/irda)" there are many supplied files, which is "driver"?
[09:30] <chad__> Another quick question maybe someone can help, it's with reguards to an external harddrive? It seems to be having a lot of problems and doesn't want to format, is there a particular way I can diagnose why it won't or a way I can force it to format?
[09:30] <bullgard> Where can I find the program "Seahorse" in the GNOME menu hierarchy?
[09:30] <ardchoille> bullgard: Accessories
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> ruien:  if you install the ssh server. it should set up to auto start at boot automatclly
[09:31] <ardchoille> bullgard: Passwords and encription jeys
[09:31] <kostkon> bullgard, "applications → accessories → passwords and encryption keys" i think
[09:31] <ruien> iceroot/Dr_Willis: thanks, but that won't work because i am not booting from the machine right now. I am booting from a system rescue CD (SSH'd into that from another computer) and mounted the filesystem underneath. I have access to the machine but its video card is fried. I need to do this manually.
[09:31] <bullgard> kostkon: Excellent! --  Thank you very much for your help.
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> ruien:  chroot in, sudo service ssh start (i think) to start it.
[09:32] <LordVorp> I'm having trouble with a udev rule for a TI ez430 device...
[09:32] <LordVorp> the driver has support in its structures for usb id :f430 but mine's :F432
[09:32] <ruien> Dr_Willis: thank you much. I wasn't sure chroot was a viable option here. I'll give it a shot
[09:32] <LordVorp> shoudl I rebuild the drive?
[09:32] <LordVorp> driver, even?
[09:33] <z3rongod> Ok well i guess i'll have to wait the testing 'till i get a new hdd about march or so
[09:33] <z3rongod> Thanks for the guidance so far
[09:33] <z3rongod> best wishes
[09:34] <politas> Hi all. I'm wondering if anyone can help me out with a Palm Treo issue I'm having.
[09:35] <lilzeus-web> where does synaptic install phpbb so I can test it after installation??
[09:36] <faileas> lilzeus-web: probably /var/www/???
[09:36] <seank> lilzeus-web: dpkg -L <pkgname> will show you all the files in the package
[09:36] <faileas> lilzeus-web: but eh, it might be easier not to use the package manager for that
[09:37] <lilzeus-web> I don't see it in /var/www/
[09:38] <seank> lilzeus-web: dpkg -L phpbb3
[09:38] <seank> lilzeus-web: ... already told you the answer
[09:38] <lilzeus-web> mysqladmin: Unknown command: 'phpbb3'
[09:39] <seank> lilzeus-web: mysqladmin? wtf?
[09:39] <lilzeus-web> yer asking me???
[09:39] <lilzeus-web> lol
[09:39] <zetheroo1> in Linux I can do lspci in the terminal to see the hardware information I have ... is there something like that in Windows?
[09:39] <seank> lilzeus-web: at a terminal, type dpkg -L phpbb3
[09:39] <faileas> lilzeus-web: seriously, its probably gonna be easier to download the latest phpbb, untar it appropriately, fix permissions...
[09:39] <faileas> zetheroo1: yes.
[09:39] <faileas> zetheroo1: ask in #windows and i'll tell you ;)
[09:40] <lilzeus-web> seank
[09:40] <lilzeus-web> seank: ok, got the list
[09:40] <politas> Can anyone tell me why visor and usbserial modules are not being loaded automatically now that I have upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 (via 9.04, of course)?
[09:40] <zetheroo1> faileas: I am trying to as there ... but I get a message saying "Cannot send to channel"
[09:40] <lilzeus-web> I probably put the command in wrong...pasted from previous
[09:40] <seank> lilzeus-web: so there you go... every file that package installed.
[09:40] <faileas> zetheroo1: that would be odd. you probably are on the windows overflow channel
[09:41] <zetheroo1> faileas: I am connecting to #windows ... but then its called ##windows
[09:41] <faileas> zetheroo1: same channel. ask there ;p
[09:41] <seank> damn freenode.
[09:41] <lilzeus-web> I think its here /usr/share/phpbb3/www/
[09:42] <zetheroo1> faileas: I am trying to ask there.... cannot
[09:42] <faileas> zetheroo1: i answered there
[09:42] <seank> lilzeus-web: im sure there is also a readme file
[09:42] <livingdaylight> My laptop spits out "Fan Error" message when I attempt to boot up and promptly shuts down again - is my laptop broken, or can this be fixed -anyone?
[09:42] <zetheroo1> faileas: I saw .. thanks
[09:42] <faileas> zetheroo1: sorry about that. i try to keep my OSes seperate ;p
[09:42] <lilzeus-web> that would be nice
[09:42] <lilzeus-web> lol
[09:43] <zetheroo1> faileas: why am i getting that message in there?
[09:43] <lilzeus-web> now I just gotta get it to work with apache
[09:43] <faileas> zetheroo1: server change wierdness i suppose
[09:43] <m13e37> livingdaylight, it means your fan is broken and ure gettin too high temp
[09:43] <m13e37> so you have to change ur fan in your laptop
[09:43] <seank> livingdaylight: fan error... well, sounds to me like one of your fans are broken... the bios usually detects that and some will not boot unless the fan is replaced..
[09:43] <faileas> zetheroo1: i think its supposed to auto symlink to your /var/www ...
[09:43] <livingdaylight> m13e37, is this repairable on a laptop?
[09:43] <ironman_> j #metalhammer
[09:43] <m13e37> sure
[09:43] <m13e37> laptop is not closed forever box
[09:44] <livingdaylight> seank, replaceable on laptop?
[09:44] <seank> livingdaylight: yes
[09:44] <m13e37> just go with it to nearest computer service or smth
[09:44] <ubuntu910-g> #ubuntu-ko
[09:44] <zetheroo1> faileas: well I did wmic ... but its not showing me any hardware info ..
[09:44] <ubuntu910-g> #ubuntu-ko
[09:44] <m13e37> if you can't handle it yourself
[09:44] <seank> livingdaylight: call the manufacturer and explain the problem.  i'm sure they can send you a new fan or provide someone to take it to.
[09:44] <faileas> zetheroo1: get siw then
[09:44] <faileas> its way easier
[09:44] <livingdaylight> seank, thank you
[09:45] <seank> livingdaylight: curious, why did you come to an ubuntu channel to ask this?  They are taking always my comp for looong time -.-
[09:45] <faileas> livingdaylight: might want to try #hardware
[09:45] <livingdaylight> faileas, cool, thx
[09:45] <Moon> ciao
[09:45] <zetheroo1> faileas: will siw show information of hardware that is not installed (no driver)?
[09:45] <faileas> i don't remember
[09:45] <nexus_> Hello what is the best way to install ubuntu... Should I make a separate partition just for the os's files and then a separate partition to keep my stuff?
[09:46] <faileas> i haven't needed to use it a while
[09:46] <m13e37> nexus_, just make sep part and install it therwe
[09:46] <Moon> aiuto
[09:46] <m13e37> there*
[09:46] <faileas> nexus_: the 'default' is one big partition + swap. it'll do unless you reformat often
[09:46] <m13e37> for new users I would recommend to keep windows
[09:47] <m13e37> cuz if linux fuck up then you can seek help on google on windows
[09:47] <faileas> eh
[09:47] <m13e37> <like I did>
[09:47] <nexus_> Ok well im would like to reformat every time a full year release comes out
[09:47] <kinja-sheep> m13e37: Language, please.
[09:47]  * faileas thinks the turning point for me was wubi ;p
[09:47] <m13e37> uhm sorry
[09:47] <nexus_> Like from 10.04 to 11.04
[09:47] <seank> high-rez is a piece of shit apparently
[09:47] <faileas> nexus_: well having a seperate /home might help. I just back up the stuff i need, and wipe, but some people keep /home as is
[09:48] <nexus_> faileas: Could you guide me on how to create a separate /home
[09:49] <nexus_> I am new to Linux and I have been trying many live CDs for a few months so I think im ready to install now
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> isent there a 'memo server' service?  i forget its nick,. or its down right now
[09:49] <faileas> nexus_: while setting up, use the manual partitioning option
[09:49] <politas> nexus: The "reformat every year" is really sub-optimal with Linux. Upgrading in place is much better
[09:49] <faileas> you'll need 3 partitions / /home and one for swap. set the mount pounts as such, and thats pritty much it
[09:49] <Moon> chi può darmi una mano? problemi con DCC
[09:50] <faileas> Dr_Willis: its usually memoserv
[09:50] <faileas> !it > Moon
[09:50] <cycrosism> you're lucky your not installing gentoo, that's a pain
[09:50] <faileas> lol
[09:50] <cycrosism> lol owned?
[09:50] <faileas> ....
[09:50] <seank> cycrosism: no it's not :P
[09:50] <cycrosism> Botnet?
[09:50] <faileas> naw, more server swapover wierdness
[09:50] <cycrosism> seank: gentoo is a pain to install well it was for me
[09:51] <seank> cycrosism: the default gentoo install now (stage3) takes maybe 45min.
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  aha - one too many ms
[09:51] <cycrosism> seank: yeah but u have to configure everything
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> had to look up some notes i had ages ago about Pulse Audio.
[09:51] <faileas> cycrosism: tried that. Amusingly, i compile some of my own apps, and i still have no stomach for gentoo ;p
[09:51] <seank> cycrosism: of course... it is 2010... you shouldnt have to do that shit
[09:51]  * Dr_Willis wishes the various pulse audio config tools would have more... logical names..
[09:51] <politas> Can anyone help me with Treo/visor/usbserial issues, or should I just start tearing out my hair in exasperation?
[09:52] <cycrosism> seank: No i mean you literally have to configure EVERYTHING
[09:52] <faileas> seank: in generally if i can't get a working system without a network connection (well wpa is acceptable) i ain't running it ;p
[09:52] <nexus_> politas: Yea but I really like the fact that ubuntu increases it's boot speed every release and that is one of the main reasons why I would like to reformat ever year
[09:52] <Moon> Help my
[09:52] <faileas> nexus_: you can upgrade in place and get the same thing
[09:52] <faileas> Moon: try the italian channel
[09:52] <faileas> !it
[09:52] <seank> cycrosism: i have used gentoo, a lot actually.  i know what it takes.
[09:52] <politas> nexus_: it does that with upgrades, too.  My laptop has a single core CPU, but the 'top' commando shows 125% CPU usage for Firefox. What's the idea behind this?
[09:58] <cycrosism> znh: use htop
[09:58] <iceroot> znh: hyper-threading? press "1" in top to see your cores
[09:59] <znh> Oh. It's hyperthreading. Thanks!
[09:59]  * kinja-sheep splits!
[09:59] <politas> iceroot: I tried that /ignore suggestion, but I get "Unknown command"
[09:59] <cycrosism> wtf is wrong with this channel
[09:59] <iceroot> politas: what client?
[09:59] <faileas> cycrosism: its the whole server
[09:59] <meowkbuntu> hi i am wanting to know what i need to download there are  seperate packages for the app 7zip. p7zip and p7zip-full. what do i need to get
[09:59] <cycrosism> Make it +R
[09:59] <politas> Pidgin
[09:59] <ardchoille> politas: are you using xchat?
[10:00] <iceroot> politas: i cant imaging that pidgin dont have /ignore
[10:00] <faileas> meowkbuntu: p7zip-full
[10:00] <meowkbuntu> pidgin for irc is not that great. works but cant do many things
[10:00] <politas> iceroot: well it doesn't, it seems
[10:00] <iceroot> politas: maybe use a real irc-client then
[10:01] <superbee> Htop rocks out! :-)
[10:01] <meowkbuntu> faileas: whats the diff between the 2
[10:01] <politas> iceroot: any suggestions?
[10:01] <kinja-sheep> politas: You could find out how in #pidgin
[10:01] <seank> politas: irssi, xchat
[10:01] <faileas> meowkbuntu: one has support for 7za file ;p
[10:01] <iceroot> politas: if you want a gui, xchat, if you want a cli, irssi
[10:01]  * faileas uses lostirc on his gtk systems ;p
[10:01] <faileas> its nice and light
[10:01] <politas> Ok. I'll give xchat a go.
[10:01] <ardchoille> politas: in xchat, right click the tab and choose Settings > Hide ...
[10:01] <faileas> it lacks ipv6 support apparently though, but who the hell uses ipv6!
[10:02] <faileas> ;p
[10:03] <meowkbuntu> faileas: is this right p7zip=cli. p7zip-full=graphical interface
[10:03] <faileas> no
[10:03] <nexus_> Any recommendations for a Linux learner
[10:03] <faileas> p7zip will integrate itself into the gui unzipping app
[10:04] <faileas> no idea what its called in ubuntu
[10:04] <znh> nexus_, please be more specific
[10:04]  * faileas is a kubuntu user mostly
[10:04] <nexus_> Mmmm what are the most used applications you have installed?
[10:04] <iceroot> faileas: please dont use /me here
[10:04] <faileas> nexus_: http://xkcd.com/456
[10:05] <seank> nexus_: just use it... if you don't know something, google it, and if you really cant figure something out, ask here.
[10:05] <faileas> nexus_: hmm, on gtk systems,,, guake- its a drop down terminal.
[10:05] <mimor> nexus_, evolution, firefox, ....
[10:05] <seank> faileas: lol, awesome
[10:05] <faileas> tilde does the same thing, but isn't as polished
[10:06] <faileas> seank: hardcore yakuake user. its the only thing that kept me from ditching kde in the early days of kde 4 ;p
[10:06] <faileas> guake is the same, but gtk based
[10:06] <politas> iceroot: Ok, I'm in xchat now. What was that /ignore command?
[10:06] <nexus_> Ok anyone know if it's possible to put sabayon's theme on ubuntu?
[10:06] <ardchoille> politas: in xchat, right click the tab and choose Settings > Hide ...
[10:07] <seank> faileas: im referring to the xkcd
[10:07] <iceroot> politas: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS  if i am correct, /help ignore will tell you
[10:07] <rem_> ..
[10:07] <faileas> lets see if that worked ;p
[10:07] <faileas> nope
[10:07] <nexus_> So why do you guys choose gnome and not kde? Is it just about the looks
[10:07] <nexus_> ?
[10:07] <faileas> its added, but does nothing
[10:07] <Mogue> Hey guys. I need some help regarding my screen resolutions. I've been working on it for like a week now but to no avail. I made a thread but it hasn't really gotten any replies: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1393387
[10:08] <iceroot> nexus_: because kde (4) was long time not stable. that is one reason
[10:08] <faileas> nexus_: eh. i actually use kde, and a custom varient that uses cairodock and openbox
[10:08] <seank> nexus_: who gives a shit what i or anyone uses?  use both and find out which you like better.
[10:08] <iceroot> seank: whatch your language
[10:08] <ardchoille> !language | seank
[10:08] <faileas> nexus_: really though, the nice thing with linux is as you learn to use it, you end up making it your own ;p
[10:08] <Mogue> And here's a nother one that didn't really work: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/158961-screen-resolution.html
[10:08] <nexus_> seank: I would just like to hear from experienced Linux users
[10:09] <iceroot> nexus_: :)
[10:09] <faileas> nexus_: the desktop environment eventually isn't that important ;p
[10:09] <faileas> everything has equivilents, you can adjust them almost infintely...
[10:10] <iceroot> nexus_: imo the gnome-implementation in ubuntu is much better then the kde-implementatin. if you want to see a good kde-implementation, use opensuse. so ubuntu is mainly focused on gnome (that is my opinion)
[10:10] <vatts> hi, i cant connect to my wifi (WPA2 aes) w/ ubuntu
[10:10] <vatts> the ubuntu 9.10
[10:10] <seank> nexus_: well i've been using it for... many years.... and if anyone ever suggests to you one way or the other, its just opinion.  i'm encouraging you to try them out yourself... why would you want someone elses opinion on something that is really your own choice?
[10:10] <meowkbuntu> hey i just installed 7zip i cant run it whats rong
[10:11] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: what does "cant run it" mean?
[10:11] <nexus_> Do you guys know if it's posibble to put sabayon's default theme on ubuntu?
[10:11] <Nachturnal> seank, that's like saying "why would you avoid touching a hot stove just because someone else taught you it will hurt". some opinions have value.
[10:12] <vatts> at last
[10:12] <vatts> connection established
[10:12] <vatts> and ubuntu.freeze(4s)
[10:12] <nexus_> Thanks Nachturnal
[10:12] <seank> Nachturnal: uhm... are you serious?
[10:12] <meowkbuntu> iceroot: idk what do you think.
[10:13] <meowkbuntu> cant run means cant run
[10:13] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: usefull detailed so we can help you, i dont like guessing
[10:13] <Nachturnal> Yes. If we don't take other peoples' opinions into account, we're going to waste our time trying EVERYTHING out there.
[10:13] <seank> Nachturnal: we're referring to desktop environments... not hot stoves.. are you retarded?
[10:13] <seank> Nachturnal: its all about opinion... entirely subjective.  just shut up.
[10:13] <ericson> I have a quick question about 9.10 64bit and wireless cards.... Most of the time the card works and connects (such as now) However, on the same laptop as this one, sitting right next to me running 9.10 64bit, it wont connect. Is there a known problem with the network manager?
[10:13] <Mogue> Anyone, guys? The modes in my xorg.conf are not showing up in the Nvidia Server Settings... What should I do?
[10:14] <iceroot> seank: stop that
[10:14] <ardchoille> !coc | seank Please be respectful of others
[10:14] <Nachturnal> It's a simple human function. Listening to peoples' opinions allows us to function more productively. Do you suggest he try every desktop environment in existence?
[10:14] <meowkbuntu> iceroot: cant=wont,=will not=does not etc
[10:14] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: erros-message and so on
[10:14] <nexus_> Ok so I have a question about apps... If I make a 10 gb partition for ubuntu... Do the applications I install get installed to that partition too?
[10:14] <kinja-sheep> nexus_: Yes.
[10:15] <tremmons>  /nick iflema
[10:15] <meowkbuntu> iceroot:  i installed p7zip-full. i cant find it in kmenu adn i cant run it in cli
[10:15] <ericson> nexus_, I used to run ubuntu in a 30gig partition, and it never got close to filling up. Granted, I kept all of my music and movies on an external drive so it was easier to swap between windows and linux
[10:15] <meowkbuntu> ice no errors
[10:15] <nexus_> So what's a smart sized partition so that all upgrades and only a few apps can be installed
[10:16] <seank> Nachturnal: whatever... he's asking about gnome and kde.  out of the 1166 users in here, maybe 3 or 4 will respond with their own opinions... what *value* is that?  how much *more* value will it be to just use them for yourself and figure out which *you* prefer.
[10:16] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: its not an extra program, just right click on the file you want to extract and choose extract
[10:16] <ericson> nexus_, I would say a 10gig is enough room
[10:16] <meowkbuntu> iceroot: no errors. i have been using irc for awhile i know how it works. i gave you what i had
[10:16] <m13e37> k this is not good
[10:16] <nexus_> ericson: Ok cool that's the type of info I wanted to hear
[10:16] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: and that was nothing, sorry
[10:17] <meowkbuntu> iceroot: 7zip has a graphicle interface.
[10:17] <shazbotmcnasty> meowkbuntu, no it doesn't
[10:17] <m13e37> If I'm runnig ubuntu for more than 12h+ my RAM is gettin used in 100% just by FF tuned on... what's going on?
[10:17] <m13e37> turned*
[10:17] <Nachturnal> seank, Then I recommend you use sound logic when providing a reason for the action you recommend to others. While KDE and Gnome may both be worth trying, your provided reasoning is absurd.
[10:17] <meowkbuntu> um i can run it in wine adn it does
[10:17] <ericson> nexus_, I'm on a 100gig partition, just because I had the room for the partition, but my other buddy was running in a 20gig, also with more than enough room.
[10:17] <shazbotmcnasty> ARRGGHHHH I don't want to deal with you twice today meowkbuntu
[10:17] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: windows-program != linux-program
[10:18] <seank> Nachturnal: uhh what?  you can install both easily.  give them both a shot and see which you prefer.  how is that "absurd"
[10:18] <knoppies> m13e37, FF does seem to have a memory leak or something. I would just close, and then re-open FF and see if that helps.
[10:18] <meowkbuntu> if teh windows version of 7zip is graphicle then the linus one is
[10:18] <meowkbuntu> just like other apps
[10:18] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: no
[10:18] <nexus_> Seank just let it go... I see what you mean and I will try them out myself... I am not going to base my decision completly on sow
[10:18] <zztop__> which irc app should i use in gnome?
[10:18] <knoppies> meowkbuntu, that is not always true.
[10:18] <shazbotmcnasty> meowkbuntu, I love how you think you're right.
[10:18] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: as i told you, just choose extract on the file
[10:18] <meowkbuntu> ok thanks
[10:18] <nexus_> ... Completely on someone elses opinon
[10:18] <kinja-sheep> zztop__: Any IRC apps will work regardless of desktop environment.
[10:18] <coz_> zztop__,   I personally prefer xchat
[10:18] <meowkbuntu> shazbotmcnasty: then dont reply to my questions
[10:18] <zztop__> i like mirc in windows
[10:18]  * knoppies also prefers xchat (in gnome)
[10:19] <iceroot> zztop__: try xchat
[10:19] <m13e37> knoppies, it didn't helped I just got 100mb ram free...
[10:19] <nexus_> Ok thanks everyone im gonna go now
[10:19] <m13e37> oh and xchat and deluge are on only
[10:19] <knoppies> zztop__, have you tried mirc using wine? or something simialr.
[10:19] <ericson> anyone got a lot of knowledge of wireless cards and network manager?
[10:19] <meowkbuntu> i prefer a graphicle interface. is there a linux zip app like that
[10:19] <knoppies> m13e37, ok, then you need to see what is using all your ram.
[10:19] <shazbotmcnasty> meowkbuntu, then once again: stop being so rude about your questions
[10:19] <seank> Nachturnal: .....come on, whys my reasoning "absurd"
[10:20] <meowkbuntu> i was sure there was a frount end for 7zip
[10:20] <coz_> zztop__,  let me take a look at mirc  screenshots to see what might be similar
[10:20] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: the one which comes with ubuntu
[10:20] <Nachturnal> seank, check your PM. We need not flood the channel with argument.
[10:20] <meowkbuntu> shazbotmcnasty: is on ignore
[10:20] <meowkbuntu> iceroot:  called
[10:21] <coz_> zztop,    I would definitly suggest xchat...it looks quite similar
[10:21] <shazbotmcnasty> meowkbuntu, that I really do not mind
[10:21] <coz_> sort of
[10:21] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: dont know, right click on a file and choose archiv/extract to see as told 3 times
[10:21] <raven> UNISON how to ignore the hidden files in the home-folder?
[10:21] <coz_> raven,  ignore as in hide?
[10:21] <meowkbuntu> ice i know about that i need to create zip files
[10:21] <Jenk> hey, can an UDF disc be read in ubuntu ?
[10:21] <shazbotmcnasty> raven, ctrl+h
[10:22] <faileas> Jenk: yes
[10:22] <meowkbuntu> easier for me if i have graphivcll application
[10:22] <raven> coz_ how to do it in the prf file
[10:22] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: yes, with that you can creatie zip files
[10:22] <Jenk> faileas, how ?? i get an error
[10:22] <meowkbuntu> really ice thanks i never knew about that. thanks for being helpful
[10:22] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: right click a file, choose create archiv (dont know the english menu name) and choose zip
[10:23] <meowkbuntu> so riuight click on teh file and click zip???
[10:23] <coz_> raven,  not sure exactly waht you want...do you want to hide the hidden files from view in the home directory altoghether?
[10:23] <knoppies> I installed graphic card drivers on my ubuntu 9.10 and now it wont boot. It gets stuck at a blank screen before the login screen, and if I hit a key on the keyboard it comes up with the error: "gave up waiting for root device"
[10:23] <raven> coz_ i want UNISON to ignore it when checking and synching
[10:23] <pRinCeess> cwe_manis
[10:23] <cyberebel> hello, can someone help with usb joypad installation please!
[10:23] <coz_> raven,  oh mmm ok   I am not sure   but someone here might ..sorry
[10:23] <ardchoille> raven: check the unisonman page, should be an option like --exclude or something
[10:24] <coz_> knoppies,   which video card?
[10:24] <candy> i want to disable keyring password
[10:24] <faileas> Jenk: might help to mention the error
[10:24] <meowkbuntu> its nice when people listen and help insted of arguing
[10:24] <Jenk> faileas, Cannot mount volume,
[10:24] <kinja-sheep> raven: http://tinyurl.com/2hyagf
[10:24] <coz_> knoppies,  and how did you install the driver??
[10:24] <knoppies> coz_, a geforce FX5200
[10:24] <candy> i want to disabble keyring password.. anybody help??
[10:24] <faileas> Jenk: hmm, tried mounting it manually? with sudo mount?
[10:24] <knoppies> using the gui.
[10:24] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: and its nice if all are playing nice
[10:24] <raven> ardchoille, "ignore = Name {.*} but i need a right syntax for {}
[10:24] <faileas> (you chouldn't need to, but... eh)
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> candy:  video how to do it at --> http://drop.io/dr_willis
[10:25] <knoppies> coz_, system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[10:25] <Jenk> ya, nd hive seen d net too.
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> candy:  theres a menu that people overlook  :)
[10:25] <coz_> knoppies, ok and you rebooted apparenlty.... are you at the text console?
[10:25] <ardchoille> raven: ignore = .*  <-- try that
[10:25] <candy> Dr_Willis, thanks i ll try it
[10:26] <meowkbuntu> iceroot: agree with that
[10:26] <exaby1e> i need help with eclipse
[10:26] <Jenk> faileas, Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'
[10:26] <knoppies> coz_, its a very basic text console with the prompt "(initramfs)"
[10:26] <ardchoille> raven: on second thought, that might not work
[10:26] <Regravity> Hey has anyone ever tried to install FocusWriter to Ubuntu? I'm trying on Ubuntu Netbook remix but it wont build
[10:26] <nibbler_> in imap, how would be the standard notation for a folder structure? mainfolder/subfolder or what?
[10:26] <exaby1e> i wont start anymore
[10:26] <candy> Dr_Willis, are u sure i will b able to do it from that video?? coz i m a newbie in using ubuntu
[10:26] <meowkbuntu> whats teh most compace format of zip in linux
[10:26] <cyberebel> please help with usb joypad setup
[10:26] <iceroot> exaby1e: start it from the cli and paste the error
[10:26] <raven> ardchoille, until now it's working that way
[10:26] <Dr_Willis>  candy  its trival to changhe.. you just got to find the right menu item.
[10:26] <devD_> after playing a supertux game all of my panel icon got messed up ? how to solve this.
[10:26] <nibbler_> meowkbuntu, bzip2 (tar cjf for eg)
[10:26] <ardchoille> meowkbuntu: .rar ?
[10:27] <coz_> knoppies,  ok ,  did it give you any warning that ubuntu is running in low graphics mode?
[10:27] <raven> ardchoille, have to wait a litte bit to tell about the success
[10:27] <exaby1e> i've tried that, but i don't get any output
[10:27] <candy> Dr_Willis, ok let me try
[10:27] <iceroot> exaby1e: is there a debug-modus? eclipse --help
[10:27] <knoppies> coz_, it might have, dont remember. It wouldnt allow me to enable compiz, and it wouldnt allow me to increase the resolution above 800x600
[10:27] <meowkbuntu> nibbler_: and ardchoille disagree
[10:27] <exaby1e> i even redownloaded eclipse, but i did'nt help
[10:28] <iceroot> exaby1e: why not using the repo-version?  sudo apt-get install eclipse
[10:28] <obiwan_> ey guys, i got a question: when i set root (hd0,5) in grub, it says : filesystem is ext2. But it's ext4. Does anybody have the same problem? i've seen it reported on the net but didn't found any explanation
[10:28] <coz_> knoppies,   so you can get onto the Desktop?
[10:28] <nibbler_> meowkbuntu, well, rar is not really free, and bzip is way more modern, and its the linux standard (besides gnuzip, which is older and not as compact)
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> obiwan_:  they are backwards comnpatiable.. so to grub they are the same.
[10:28] <knoppies> coz_, its a rather new install, the only thing I had set up was x11vnc and apache. I could always reformat. was hoping there was a way to revert to the standard drivers.
[10:28] <knoppies> coz_, not anymore, not since I restarted it.
[10:28] <nibbler_> meowkbuntu, i'd say in this case he is wrong, but his "?" suggests its just an idea :p
[10:28] <ardchoille> meowkbuntu: nibbler_ has a point there
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> obiwan_:  at least thats my guess. :)
[10:28] <exaby1e> it doesn't matter what arguments i enter, nothing happens
[10:29] <coz_> knoppies,  ok is this gnome you have as a DE?
[10:29] <ribot> hi
[10:29] <cyberebel> can someone help with usb joypad please?
[10:29] <obiwan_> ok Dr_Willis hehe thanks . i'm having troubles loading a distro and i thought that may be the problem. i'll keep trying
[10:29] <meowkbuntu> i remember now bzip2 i cant do bzip when rightclicking the file
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> cyberebel:  plug it in and use it? clarify to the channel what its not doing
[10:29] <nibbler_> meowkbuntu, look for downloading sourcepackages on sourceforge eg and see what you find they use as a format :p
[10:29] <ribot> im having problem with searching files in subfolders: grep -r doesn't go any deeper than one subfolder to search
[10:29] <knoppies> coz_, not sure what DE stands for, but yes Im using gnome.
[10:29] <meowkbuntu> nibbler_: how do i do that
[10:29] <coz_> knoppies,    in that text console  type   /etc/init.d/gdm restart   or    if that doesnt work   service  gdm restart
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> obiwan_:  i think if ya look at 'fdisk' /partion types.. ext2/3/4 are the same type. just different format commands to make the fs.
[10:29] <coz_> knoppies,   DE  stands for   Desktop Environment :)
[10:29] <cyberebel> i pluged it in but its not doing anything
[10:29] <knoppies> coz_, thanks, will let you know how it goes.
[10:30] <politas> So, anyone knowledgeable in palm treo syncing under karmic?
[10:30] <nibbler_> meowkbuntu, just rightclick, chose compress, chose tar.bz2 as format
[10:30] <coz_> knoppies,   well I just want to see if it does go into gdm
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> cyberebel:  and how are you testing this? Plug it in - chedk dmesg command output... what else have ya tried
[10:30] <knoppies> coz_, claims its not found.
[10:30] <iceroot> meowkbuntu: bz2 in the menu
[10:30] <nibbler_> meowkbuntu, by the way, tar.gz would be *the* standard format, which you can unpack on practically *any* unix out there, bzip2 needs a bit more modern systems
[10:31] <coz_> knoppies,  if not  restart and I belive there is a low graphics mode option in the boot mentu   hit  esc  or shift I believe to see the menu if this is not a dual boot
[10:31] <politas> I had my treo all set up and syncing perfectly under Intrepid. Then I upgraded to Karmic, and now nothing works from all the instructions I can find.
[10:31] <knoppies> coz_, not a duel boot. when do I hit esc or shift?
[10:31] <coz_> knoppies,  just as you reboot I believe it should bring up the menu
[10:31] <cyberebel> Dr Willis (chedk) is that a comand in the terminal?
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> cyberebel:  plug it in.. run 'dmesg' look at output at bottom
[10:32] <obiwan_> Dr_Willis: fdisk won't show kind of partition
[10:32] <cWe_cRi> uh....
[10:32] <cyberebel> ok
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> obiwan_:  sudo fdisk -l    - dont forget the sudo :)
[10:32] <obiwan_> Dr_Willis: blkid shows it, but it says ext4 :P but it's np
[10:32] <obiwan_> yeah sudo fdisk -l won't show Dr_Willis
[10:32] <knoppies> coz_, it brings up a menu with the items: Ubuntu-linux-2.6.31-17- generic
[10:32] <ribot> im having problem with searching files in subfolders: grep -r doesn't go any deeper than one subfolder to search
[10:32] <obiwan_> Dr_Willis: but np , i guess that's not the problem
[10:33] <coz_> knoppies,   but no option for safe graphics mode?
[10:33] <knoppies> coz_, and a recovery mode, and 2.6.31-14 and its recovery mode, no safe graphics mode.
[10:33] <coz_> knoppies,  ok   let it move forward  choose the top most item on the menu
[10:33] <knoppies> coz_, I have, and then it goes to where I initially stated my problem.
[10:34] <coz_> knoppies,   ok  now in that  console type     nvidia-xconfig
[10:34] <coz_> knoppies,  restart the system and tell me if it boots
[10:34] <cyberebel> Dr_Willis i dont see anything about joypad
[10:35] <raven> ardchoille, ok seems that every file is ignored - but no folders and a few files
[10:35] <knoppies> coz_, nvidia-xconfig not found.
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> cyberebel:  the ones i got = when i plug them in they mention some /dev/input/js0 or similer.. and i just use them in zsnes fine. No special tweaking needed
[10:35] <coz_> knoppies,   ok   now type   lspci | grep -i vga
[10:36] <nixjr> how do i "make" something?
[10:36] <knoppies> coz_, this is a busybox terminal and seems to have very few commands, should i try boot it into command line (from the boot menu)?
[10:36] <coz_> knoppies,   sure
[10:36] <iceroot> i want ssh to another pc, passwd is stored in ldap and shell is set to zsh, but on the server i want to connect to there is no zsh installed. is there a syntax for passwd to set a fallback-shell?
[10:37] <nexus_> Anyone know how to get to the Linux mint irc room?
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  i recall some way to ssh in and run a command..  but never tried it.
[10:37] <cyberebel> im kinda new to computers sorry i dont no what that means
[10:37] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: without a login-shell?
[10:37] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: or better, without the installed login-shell?
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  yea. i seem to recall that in some ssh books/docs/tricks
[10:38] <coz_> nexus_,  I am not seeing a linux mint channel   did you check on their wiki?
[10:38] <ribot> im having problem with searching files in subfolders: grep -r doesn't go any deeper than one subfolder to search
[10:38] <knoppies> coz_, takes me to the same shell.
[10:38] <coz_> knoppies,   ok   type   lspci  | grep -i vga
[10:38] <nexus_> No but I have been there before and I don't remember how I got there lol
[10:38] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: ok, i will do some searching on it
[10:38] <knoppies> coz_, not found
[10:39] <exaby1e> i tried to install eclipse from the repo, but still, it wont start
[10:39] <exaby1e> no output
[10:39] <Jenk> faileas,  n e ideas ?
[10:39] <coz_> knoppies,  mmm   try   sudo apt-cache search  nvidia-glx
[10:39] <knoppies> coz_, sudo not found.
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  man ssh says -> If command is specified, it is executed on the remote host instead of a login shell.
[10:39] <tarvid> Is there any fix for Flash and swf?
[10:39] <coz_> knoppies,   do it without sudo
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  ssh bill@whever bash
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> perhaps :)
[10:40] <ardchoille> !flash | tarvid
[10:40] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: yes, that sounds good
[10:40] <knoppies> coz_, Im starting to think that a complete reformat might be my easiest option. I got /home on a seperate partition (although, not sure how to set that up while installing the new OS)
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> ssh willis@server df -h
[10:40] <tarvid> Flash is installed but hangs on some websites
[10:40] <airtonix> ribot, investigate the use of "find"
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:40] <coz_> knoppies,   mm  ok   I may not be the best person for that configuration...
[10:41] <mimor> for the people who're comming to FOSDEM next weekend: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2010
[10:41] <Jenk> hey, can an UDF disc be read on Ubuntu ?
[10:41] <knoppies> coz_, ok, thanks for your help. It seems as though the recovery console doesnt support enough commands.
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  bash might not work right it seems.. you might need to change the shell that way however
[10:41] <nixjr> when i type "make" is says make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-2.6/include/linux/irda.h', needed by `irda-usb.o'.  Stop.
[10:41] <kinja-sheep> knoppies: Point the path to /home on different hdd (sdX). Don't format.
[10:41] <exaby1e> any ideas on the eclipse problem?
[10:41] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: yes, of course
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  heh - it does SORT of work. I get a bash shell.. but no prompt
[10:41] <coz_> knoppies,   ok  talk with someone here about your home dirctory and setting up the system
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  so its a little weird
[10:41] <knoppies> kinja-sheep, I dont understand.
[10:42] <knoppies> coz_, yea I will, thanks
[10:42] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: same here
[10:42] <knoppies> kinja-sheep, I have 3 partitions on the disk, one for / one for /home and one for swap.
[10:42] <knoppies> kinja-sheep, if I want to reformat and reinstall ubuntu on / how do I tell the installer to use the other partition for /home?
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> iceroot: ssh willis@server mc    --> dont work right either. :) guess its for simple commands/non interative stuff mainly
[10:42] <coz_> Jenk,   not sure read this    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224983
[10:43] <coz_> knoppies,  sorry I couldnt be more helpful
[10:43] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: yes, its like rsh
[10:43] <knoppies> coz_, no problem, thanks anyway.
[10:43] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: so maybe its not a good idea to have zsh in passwd on a ldap-based passwd :)
[10:44] <kinja-sheep> knoppies: You don't reformat everything on the HDD. You reformat the / since the partitions are already created. Meh, you will have to use LiveCD and get the idea.
[10:44] <cyberebel> Dr_Willis thanks for the help anyway :)
[10:44] <kinja-sheep> knoppies: When you pop in the disc, you should see the existing partitions. From there, you work with it. When it comes to home partition, point it to the correct partition (and path).
[10:44] <airtonix> Jenk, http://www.bitwizard.nl/udf/
[10:44] <knoppies> kinja-sheep, I use a netboot disk and then point it to an apache server on my network with the alternate install disc on it.
[10:44] <knoppies> kinja-sheep, I will try that though.
[10:45] <Jenk> coz_, thanks, i've been there b4, tried all d options bt it doesn't work...
[10:45] <airtonix> Jenk, or : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+udf
[10:45] <coz_> Jenk,  damn... I am going to suggest going to the ##Linux channel   they may have come accross this before
[10:46] <airtonix> Jenk, http://ascending.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/howto-read-vista-burnt-udf-dvds-on-ubuntu-linux/
[10:47] <candy> which file system ll be better to select to install ubuntu 9.10 in desktop??
[10:47] <candy> ext3 or 4??
[10:47] <Jenk> coz_, i've gone thru bug reports, trolled google, but no help.. i get dis error, invalid mount option when attempting to mount 'UDF Volume'.
[10:47] <airtonix> Jenk, also worth noting : windows cd/dvd creator via explorer does not create standard UDF discs.
[10:47] <coz_> Jenk,  that last link from airtonix  seems to be something to read
[10:47] <knoppies> candy, ext3 is more stable. but Im not sure myself.
[10:48] <knoppies> candy, I used ext4, seemed fine. But now my ubuntu wont boot after I installed graphics drivers, but I think that is something else entirely, and not related to the format.
[10:48] <Jenk> airtonix, i've gone thru dat, changed the order of options... it doesn't work.
[10:48] <candy> knoppies, i m doing ext3
[10:49] <knoppies> candy, Im gonna use ext3 on my reformat as well.
[10:49] <candy> knoppies, okeis
[10:50] <airtonix> Jenk, sorry, i thought UDf was for dvd discs not dat tapes/
[10:50] <Jenk> airtonix, k, bt n e oda ideas ?
[10:50] <airtonix> !u
[10:51] <Jenk> dis is my dmesg | tail output.... udf: udf_read_inode(ino 1889230) failed !bh
[10:51] <Jenk>  UDF-fs: No partition found (1)
[10:51] <Jenk> grow_buffers: requested out-of-range block<PHONE_NUMBER>3709333392 for device sr0
[10:51] <Jenk> attempt to access beyond end of device
[10:51] <Jenk>  sr0: rw=0, want=7556924, limit=7516800
[10:51] <FloodBot4> Jenk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:53] <quietone> how do I set up a mail server, for home network? I've got no experience and reading postfix and dovecot has not helped me. I can send/rcv to my self, but want to change the domain.
[10:53] <airtonix> Jenk, don't confuse my suggestions of urls to visit as a sign that I have any idea of the deeper workings with regards to UDF on linux. You didn't mention that you'd already investigated certain pathways so I took the liberty of providing the basics of google for you
[10:53] <papul> is ircii a dead project?
[10:54] <silverraindog> quietone: check in /etc/postfix/main.cf
[10:54] <llutz> quietone: read at postfix.org
[10:54] <quietone> silverraindog: and llutz: I have done both and it isn't working for me.
[10:54] <quietone> I mean that reading it isn't helping me to understand or to make the changes I want.
[10:54] <llutz> quietone: then ask at #postfix, maybe give some more details than" does not work"
[10:55] <quietone> tried #postfix. how can I change the domain name?
[10:56] <smvrglc> anyone knows the _best_ method to install on a encrypted root partition? how about the boot partition, can that be encrypted too?
[10:56] <llutz> quietone:see postfix address rewriting at postfix.org
[10:57] <silverraindog> quietone: in main.cf there is something called myhostname
[10:57] <silverraindog> quietone: change that
[10:57] <hamzaatova2> how can i record something from the sound card easily?????? will it be better idea to do it on windows on another computer?????
[10:58] <airtonix> Jenk, just a wild shot... have you bothered to try using nero for linux to read the udf disc?
[10:58] <llutz> quietone: the thing is, running a mailserver is a very complex job. you have to read and more important, to understand what you're doing
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> I just plug in to the sound in and use th record tool.. but last i did that was.. proberly 2 yrs ago :)
[10:58] <smvrglc> hamzaatova2, Aplications > Sound & Video > Sound Recorder
[10:59] <Leoneof> hi, if anyone have problems with network-manager, thery have channel #nm
[10:59] <Jenk> airtonix, no, d dvd was burnt in Vista nd it doesn't open up here... 9.04
[10:59] <Leoneof> just wanted to tell
[10:59] <llutz> quietone: we don't need more spam-relays on the net, driven by unexperienced admins
[10:59] <hamzaatova2> smvrglc, but how do  i record from the soundcard and from myspace????
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> !info recordmydesktop
[10:59] <airtonix> Jenk, so you have not bothered to try and use nero for linux to mount the udf disc and convert it to a proper ISO ?
[11:00] <hamzaatova2> Dr_Willis, let say ive installed it-- how to use it?????
[11:00] <quietone> llutz: have I done something wrong? what is a spam-relay?
[11:01] <Jenk> airtonix, no hav neva heard dat der was a nero 4 linux bt s u say, i'll giv it a shot...
[11:01] <silverraindog> quietone: look for a web gui for postfix
[11:01] <Callum_> airtonix: Brasero will do the same job and it is installed by default...
[11:01] <airtonix> Jenk, btw i find your mangling of the english language to be offensive
[11:01] <llutz> quietone: a misconfigured mailserver misused by spammers. you should read more about postfix to prevent your server becoming a spam-relay
[11:01]  * airtonix quietly rages
[11:02] <quietone> llutz: my server will not be going past our router. it is only for the home.
[11:03] <Jenk> airtonix, i've injured my hands and am typing using a pen in my mouth, the economics of typing dictate that it is easier to type short....
[11:04] <zilkomaa> could someone tell me how to unzip this file Dark_linux_0_5_by_metak.gz properly to  /usr/share/themes
[11:04] <airtonix> Jenk, I'm sorry you'll have to talk to another waiter if you want to order a different argument.
[11:04] <kinja-sheep> zilkomaa: You can unzip it in ~/.themes
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> zilkomaa:  you could just go to the appeaances tool and drag/drop it on the tool to install it to the users themes directory
[11:04] <coz_> zilkomaa,  could you link me to the theme
[11:04] <airtonix> Jenk, that was my last idea : use nero for linux. all out of ideas
[11:05] <zilkomaa> Thank you guys, here is the link: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Dark-linux?content=118548
[11:05] <x404x> how do i enable direct 3d rendering in xubuntu 9.10 ?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> zilkomaa:  theres severll tools that let you auto-download.install themes..
[11:06]  * _Ovidiu is away: Gone away for now
[11:06] <Jenk> airtonix, with all due respect, i really meant what i said.... thanks for you help :-) !!
[11:06] <smvrglc> Jenk, http://ascending.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/howto-read-vista-burnt-udf-dvds-on-ubuntu-linux/
[11:06] <zilkomaa> Dr_Willis: yes but i want that specific one
[11:06] <coz_> zilkomaa,  ok  right click the file and extract   then right click that file and extract
[11:06] <airtonix> Jenk, I understand. if you are a monty python fan you will see where the waiter comment comes from
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> zilkomaa:  thers tools that show all the themes from gnome-look and let you grab them
[11:07] <Jenk> smvrglc, thanks..
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> zilkomaa:  or just download/drag/drop to the 'appeaarance' tool
[11:07] <coz_> zilkomaa, then open that folder... right click on the "Dark-linux 0.5  folder and  "Compress"  then drag that compressed file on the the window of system/preferences/appearacne
[11:07] <yogi_>  /msg NickServ identify rootz09
[11:07] <coz_> i dont know why people dont dont package some of these themes properly
[11:08] <Jenk> airtonix, thanks, will get back later if i can... gtg ;-) !
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  yep. its a annoyance
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  or how they can call  a 'window decoration' package a 'theme'
[11:08] <kakak> can anyone help me with UNetbootin frugal install? pm plz
[11:09] <coz_> Dr_Willis,   exactly...
[11:09] <coz_> zilkomaa,  did you get all of that?
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  i found a neat tool called 'gstyle' that lets you grab themes real easy :) better then gnome-artng i think
[11:09] <smvrglc> anyone knows the _best_ method to install on a encrypted root partition?
[11:09] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  mm looking for it now :)
[11:10] <menashe>  I really like Ubuntu, but I need to solve some display problems first. May I ask?
[11:10] <coz_> menashe,  shoot
[11:10] <kinja-sheep> menashe: Go ahead.
[11:10] <kakak> i have few questions regarding UNetbootin. pm me some1
[11:11] <airtonix> kakak, why? just ask the questions here... collective repsonses will help you
[11:11] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wondering about gadmin-proftpd I cant figure out why its not remembering virtual users they always get a 530 incorrect login?
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  yea it would be nice if they would have some ubuntu tools for this. and pick a few dozen+ (or 100) top themes :) not all the trashy ones they got
[11:12] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  trying gstyle now
[11:12] <techtronic> having a problem setting up dns logging cant some one take a look at my loogging part of /etc/bind/named.conf.local - http://pastebin.com/m1e26d32
[11:12] <menashe> Thank you both! In Gnome I have a problem that if I choose to have a display only on the external monitor and not on the laptop, it fails. If I use the same settings but allow also the laptop, the external monitor is working fine
[11:12] <menashe> I have ubuntu 9.10
[11:12] <firefly2> Hello, I installed ubuntu-server, the interface is a wlan-stick and the network is wpa2, where and how do I set it up?
[11:13] <ouyes__> knoppies, ext4 is just ok, stable
[11:13] <coz_> zilkomaa,  did that work for you?
[11:13] <freeride> i understand it's a strange question, but how to create router in my ubuntu?
[11:13] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: where would I find gstyle?
[11:13] <knoppies> ouyes, thanks. but my machine wont boot Im im not sure what caused it to go that way. Last thing I did on it was install graphics drivers.
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  i saw it at that web8 blog.. let me find the url
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/try-gstyle-project-new-gnome-theme.html
[11:14] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Thanks!
[11:14] <techtronic> firefly2: would it not be in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  it seems to work much better then the gnome-art and gnome-artng tools
[11:15] <airtonix> freeride, using iptables and masquerade
[11:15] <coz_> zilkomaa,  that is a "decent"  dark theme  but here are many others  more or less better
[11:15] <freeride> airtoni thanks :)
[11:15] <zilkomaa> coz_: no i unzipped there comes one folder and 3 gzip files ?
[11:15] <kakak> airtonix pm!
[11:15] <airtonix> kakak, no thanks.
[11:15] <hamzaatova2> why does he says about with us??????? “Memory is the diary that we all carry about with us”
[11:15] <coz_> zilkomaa,  right now   in that unzipped folder there is a folder named dark linux right?
[11:16] <zilkomaa> coz_: yes Dark-linux 0.5
[11:16] <firefly2> techtronic, I looked there the line says wep and it doesn't connect to the router
[11:16] <coz_> zilkomaa,  ok right click that folder and choose  "Compress"
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  in the 'full themes' tab it has  stuff it can download.. but its not listing everything at gnome-look  - which is good in ways. :)
[11:16] <airtonix> hamzaatova2, despite my personal opinion on the use of the english language and grammer this is not the channel for discussion of its use
[11:16] <coz_> zilkomaa,  tell me when that is done
[11:16] <zilkomaa> coz_: ok, window appears
[11:17] <zilkomaa> coz_: to gzip the folder or something?
[11:17] <coz_> zilkomaa,    tar.gz  that folder yes
[11:17] <zilkomaa> coz_: k..
[11:17] <hamzaatova2> airtonix, it was for another channel
[11:17] <coz_> zilkomaa,  then you should get a dark linux  .tar.gz
[11:17] <airtonix> hamzaatova2, although I admire your desire to understand various pecularities in the english language
[11:18] <zilkomaa> coz_: yes its done now..
[11:18] <menashe> And under KDE, I can see only the lower part of the screen, both in the laptop and in the external screen, no matter which display settings I choose. Also in xterm mode. I cannot even lower the windows and reach their menus.
[11:18] <coz_> zilkomaa,  ok now open system/preferences/appearance  and drag that new .tar.gz onto the appearance window
[11:18] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: This is quite nice
[11:19] <coz_> zilkomaa,  it should install and ask if you want to apply the new theme
[11:19] <airtonix> Dr_Willis, is this the correct page for instructions on installing gstyle ? ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1389711 )
[11:20] <zilkomaa> coz_: yes it asked but nothing happend?
[11:20] <coz_> zilkomaa,  did you click Apply theme
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> airtonix:  that would be for teh svn i guess. i just used the source
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/try-gstyle-project-new-gnome-theme.html
[11:20] <zilkomaa> coz_: yes..
[11:21] <zilkomaa> coz_: maybe there is something missing that that tar file
[11:21]  * soreau clicks on coz_
[11:21] <coz_> zilkomaa,  with the appearance window opened   click the "Customize" button at the bottom and go to the "Controls" tab
[11:21] <coz_> zilkomaa,   in that list see if  Dark Linux is listed
[11:21] <zilkomaa> coz_: yes it is there but i can only delete it?
[11:22] <coz_> zilkomaa,  can you click on the words  Dark linux
[11:22]  * soreau double clicks on coz_
[11:23] <balsaq> how come each new ubuntu release is pretty much the same? is it because the desktop it uses?
[11:23] <coz_> zilkomaa,   if that doesnt work  log off and back on or restart x to see if the theme  is recognized and used...some systems  for some reason do not  change the theme imediately
[11:23] <zilkomaa> coz_: ok ill try restart brb!
[11:23] <kinja-sheep> balsaq: Same how?
[11:23] <dr_bro> in grub boot loader i can't get into windows, it just restarts the computer. how can i fix it?
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> zilkomaa:  thats what peole dont realize ; a theme is made of 'parts'  not all themes are actually a full theme. :)
[11:24] <balsaq> kinja-sheep, looks pretty much the same, almost no difference
[11:24] <iflema> balsaq and it goes on a cdrom... install stuff
[11:24] <soreau> balsaq: Ubuntu officially uses gnome as the default Desktop Environment. There are other options however, such as xfce, kde and lxde
[11:24] <zilkomaa> Dr_Willis: yea..i noticed when i unzipped that theme file
[11:24] <balsaq> i use xfce
[11:24] <soreau> balsaq: Do you use xubuntu?
[11:25] <balsaq> soreau, yep
[11:25] <soreau> balsaq: Then maybe you should try asking in #xubuntu or #xfce why they dont change their look
[11:26] <kiwiman> !wiki webcam
[11:26] <balsaq> soreau, its all ubuntu lol just different DE
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> !webcam
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> spend dozens of man days making 'art' for the next relese.. then they change it the release after that.   :)
[11:26] <kiwiman> Dr_Willis: thanks you :)
[11:26] <soreau> balsaq: The reality is, in linux, each user can customize their desktop to be what they want it to be. The default look for each de is typically the same
[11:26] <menashe> and the third question: How can I configure my Ubuntu to not sleep if I close the lid of my Thinkpad laptop, but simply ignore it. I'm using an external display
[11:27] <Nachturnal> What soreau said...
[11:27] <kinja-sheep> balsaq: Ubuntu is not a true rolling release.
[11:27] <balsaq> menashe, you can remove power manager and then there will be no way it will sleep lol
[11:27] <balsaq> kinja-sheep, thats a good thing, right?
[11:27] <papul> kinja-sheep, what does rolling release mean?
[11:28] <kinja-sheep> balsaq, papul: http://tinyurl.com/2v3lcj
[11:29] <zilkomaa> coz_: haha i did get it work with gtk-chtheme :DD
[11:29] <coz_> zilkomaa,  very cool :)
[11:29] <kinja-sheep> !latest | balsaq papul
[11:29]  * soreau clicks frantically on coz_
[11:30] <coz_> :)
[11:30] <kiwiman> Dr_Willis: Hello I'm searching for a webcam who works with flash in firefox, I want to use with "Stickam" , any idea ? thanks
[11:30] <papul> kinja-sheep, yaeh, i compiled and installed latest openssl
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> kiwiman:  the issue will be mainly with 'flash'  working with the webcam....  good LUCK with anything flash related...
[11:31] <ubunt> hi,guys,my 910 has no sound on my eeepc ,how to solve
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> kiwiman:  theres dozens of webcams that work in linux that flash is so badly done - it cant handle them
[11:31] <kiwiman> Dr_Willis: so flash is the problem you say ?
[11:31] <kiwiman> :)
[11:31] <papul> !sound | ubunt
[11:31] <coz_> ubunt,  the first step might be to open  a terminal and tyep   alsamixer    there check to see that volume sliders are up and nothing is muted
[11:32] <ubunt> coz
[11:32] <travmon> i  got stickam working  actually  reading tis  from my  stick  now
[11:32] <coz_> ubunt,   also check there to see that the sound card is recognized...it should be named
[11:32] <ubunt> coz_, i am sure everything in alsa is the max
[11:33] <ubunt> coz_, use aplay -l?
[11:33] <kiwiman> Dr_Willis: you are right, my labtec works with cheese but not with flash, very disapointed ( sorry for my English) :)
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> kiwiman:  write a letter to adobe complaining
[11:34] <travmon> use webcamstudio
[11:34] <kiwiman> Dr_Willis: yes , why not !
[11:34] <kiwiman> :)
[11:34] <travmon> and epiphany browser  or  arora
[11:34] <george1> epiphay
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> kiwiman:  they will just rant about how linux cant do this or that.. then be shown wrong by other app developers :) thats what happened last week
[11:35] <kiwiman> :D
[11:35] <callum__> Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 ASUS EEE PC 701 2GB RAM - When De-Activating WIFI Using FN + F2 Hotkeys screen goes black and computer freezes.
[11:35] <Gangrel> is there any possibility to drag windows fonts ?
[11:36] <kiwiman> Dr_Willis: WHAt the time in usa, here 12:35 am
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> its 6:30 am
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> Gangrel:  Huh?
[11:36] <ubunt> coz_, it seemed volume control was removed by me ,how to install it
[11:36] <callum__> Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 ASUS EEE PC 701 2GB RAM - When De-Activating WIFI Using FN + F2 Hotkeys screen goes black and computer freezes. I there a fix?
[11:36] <kiwiman> ok thanks you from France bye ! :)
[11:36] <coz_> ubunt,   you mean on the  panel ?
[11:36] <Gangrel> Dr_Willis is there any possibility to make ubuntu use windows fonts?
[11:36] <george1> search on google
[11:36] <NoBodyStudios> the empathy messenger client do not work so good on IRC
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> Gangrel:  thats trivial
[11:37] <ubunt> in my system
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Gangrel:  theres the msttcore fonts package to install them
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[11:37] <mintux> when I unconnected cable to eth0 . when I ping <IP_ADDRESS> (this ip set for guest in virtual box ) doesn't ping . and why when cable not connected I the network manager disabled?
[11:37] <coz_> ubunt,  ooo let me check
[11:37] <ubunt> coz_, thk
[11:37] <medionpal> I have a question, I installed thunderbird 3.0.1 in ubuntu but the screenshots on the thunderbird website look very different! Mine looks like the 2.0 thunderbird.. there is no "people" field in my thunderbird... what is wrong?
[11:37] <callum__> Fuck You All - Ignorance is a Bliss
[11:38] <kinja-sheep> medionpal: How do you install it in first place? o.o
[11:38]  * Dr_Willis sends callum__ a bill.
[11:38] <medionpal> well I just depacked the archive and ran ./thunderbird
[11:38] <coz_> ubunt,  it should be
[11:38] <hyperstream> how can i disable the screen saver permanatly ? or atleast on Me-TV playback? either is fine
[11:38] <coz_>  ubunt  it should be  sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-control
[11:38] <mintux> any suggesution I want my network manger be enabled without connected cable . I use ifconfig eth0 (IP) but when I ping I got Destination Host Unreachable
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  theres the screensaver you can turn off. then theres the powersaving settings tht you may also want to turn off.
[11:39] <papul> medionpal, how did u install thunderbird?
[11:39] <medionpal> well I just depacked the archive and ran ./thunderbird
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  many media players have settings that let them allready disable the screensaver/powersavers
[11:39] <papul> medionpal, thunderbird 3?
[11:39] <medionpal> yes
[11:39] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, i cant modify anything in: sys>screen saver, and everything is disabled on the power management ?
[11:40] <ubunt> coz_, when i input sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-control,it tells no packages found
[11:40] <iflema> hyperstream set as default button... press it.
[11:40] <papul> Guys isn't thunderbird 3 available in the repos yet?
[11:40] <coz_> ubunt,  ooo
[11:40] <medionpal> any ideas?
[11:40] <kinja-sheep> papul: Remember the !latest :)
[11:41] <cyberfin> Hello all, I would very much appreciate some help with this: my mouse pointer freezes whenever I enter the following programs: Opera 10, Totem, XBMC. I'm running 9.04 64bit with nvidia 8500GT. Any ideas?
[11:41] <kinja-sheep> papul: There are Mozilla Daily PPA you can add.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  cant? thats odd.
[11:41] <coz_> ubunt,  see if there is a gnome-media  pacakge
[11:41] <papul> kinja-sheep, but thunderbird 3 are tested by mozilla developers and it is stable
[11:41] <medionpal> I cheched the synaptics program but could not find thunderbird 3.0
[11:41] <kinja-sheep> papul: Lot of softwares are tested by their own developers but it does not necessarily mean it is stable. :O
[11:42] <ubunt> coz_, yes i installing it
[11:42] <papul> kinja-sheep, ok
[11:42] <hyperstream> iflema, it pops up with a password, i stick in my password(same for sudo) and i enter it (correctly) everything is still disabled via the 'Power management' and 'Screensaver' window
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> medionpal:  there may be PPA repos for newer versions
[11:42] <kinja-sheep> medionpal: http://tinyurl.com/d5b4rw (Add that and you can get Thunderbird-3.0 or -3.1 in the repo).
[11:42] <coz_> ubunt,  if you open synaptic  and hit Search  and type   gnome media  you get a list of package available   I see  gnome-volume-manager  but it is not a defulat install package
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  Hmm.. screensaver and powersaver settings here defaintly do not ask for a password..
[11:42] <mintux> nobody answer ? how can I enable my network manager without connected cable . I want I wired connection and static ip . I want to have <IP_ADDRESS> manualy for eth0\
[11:43] <mintux> I just got Destination Host Unreachable
[11:43] <iflema> hyperstream was that you i seen enquiring about dvb earlier... that was quick.... power managment there is a set a default button.
[11:43] <dr_bro> Is there any way to switch from grub to windows boot loader?
[11:43] <coz_> ubunt,  think the gnome media takes care of volume controller but not sure .....let me know
[11:43] <iflema> hyperstream as default
 papul: There are Mozilla Daily PPA you can add. how???
[11:43] <iflema> hyperstream set ya settings and click onit
[11:44] <medionpal> mintux: just go to the networkmanager and choose static ip
[11:44] <travmon> the guy who  wanted help  with flash and stickam  still  here?
[11:44] <hyperstream> iflema, yes, but the screen saver keeps turning on,  when i click the 'Make Default' button in the 'Power management' window, it pops up asking for a password, i enter my sudo password and nothing changes, everything is still greyed out.
[11:45] <kinja-sheep> papul, medionpal: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa && sudo aptitude update && aptitude search thunderbird-3"
[11:45] <hyperstream> iflema, ill try a reboot on the machines two secs
[11:45] <danub> hey all
[11:45] <papul> kinja-sheep, is there any web page about it where i can learn more
[11:45] <ubunt> coz_, i install gnome-media,and i click system-perfrence-sound,i find it was mute,but in alsamixer,everything is ok,i unist gnome-media yesterday,and it works fine.i confused
[11:45] <menashe> balsaq, actually there is a better solution - I have configured the power manager to simply make a blank screen upon closing the lid, so I simply move the mouse and continue working.
[11:46] <kinja-sheep> papul: There are over million sites and tutorials. What are you looking for in particular?
[11:46] <coz_> ubunt,  mm  I am puzzled also   ,,, i am going to suggest going to  #alsa channel and hang out there to see if someone has better ideas about this one....out of curiosity...why did you uninstal this in the first place? :)
[11:46] <medionpal> kinja-sheep: mozilla has its own repositories?
[11:46] <hyperstream> iflema, next step will be to remove: tvtime / w-scan / mplayer as i have recently installed those applications,
[11:46] <Utis> hmm .. my gamepad acts as a mouse.. why?
[11:46] <vishalparkar> may anybody pl guide me abt c++ compiling
[11:46] <papul> kinja-sheep, i am searching
[11:47] <iflema> hyperstream huh?
[11:47] <hyperstream> iflema, reboot has fixed it
[11:47] <iflema> hyperstream what?
[11:47] <vishalparkar> may anybody pl guide me abt c++ compiling
[11:47] <cyberfin> Hello all, I would very much appreciate some help with this: my mouse pointer freezes whenever I enter the following programs: Opera 10, Totem, XBMC. I'm running 9.04 64bit with nvidia 8500GT. Any ideas?
[11:47] <iflema> ?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> !compile | vishalparkar
[11:47] <kinja-sheep> medionpal: Yup. Running that command will add it and display a new search query for you.
[11:48] <ubunt> coz_, i install e17 on my ubuntu,and i don't want anything useless for me on my system,so i just uninstall them
[11:48] <vishalparkar> Thanx Dr Willis
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> ive seen so many people break too many sysmtes by uninstalling 'stuff' :)
[11:48] <vishalparkar> Let me know how to
[11:48] <hyperstream> iflema, i no long have an issues with the screen save/power management, i rebooted the pc, and it is now solved.
[11:48] <hyperstream> thanks guys.
[11:48] <vishalparkar> compile C++ using any good compiler
[11:49] <vishalparkar> like Anjuta
[11:49] <coz_> ubunt,  mm   ok  i am not sure that was a wise choice ... sound on linux is touchy at times...any package related to it should be left alone unless you really are aware of the implications that can occur  with uninstalling the pacakge
[11:49] <Dr_Willis>  vishalparkar   thats not a compiler.. thats an IDE.. time to go read some C++ basics tutorials.. and start with just a text editor and the terminal
[11:50] <banished> Hi, how do I get gcc to cross compile? I've installed gcc-4.4-multilib, but still I get cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mips32" when I try to make ARCH=mips
[11:50] <coz_> ok breakfast time  be back in a bit :)  yummm :)
[11:51] <cyberfin> Hello all, I would very much appreciate some help with this: my mouse pointer freezes whenever I enter the following programs: Opera 10, Totem, XBMC. I'm running 9.04 64bit with nvidia 8500GT. Any ideas?
[11:51] <medionpal> kinja-sheep: I cannot find anything about these mozilla repositories...
[11:52] <ubunt> coz_, you are right,but in fact i think they would be ok,and i will lokk carefully everything packages implications on which i uninstall,but some time something is no reason
[11:52] <papul> kinja-sheep, will this work? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[11:52] <kinja-sheep> medionpal: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[11:52] <kinja-sheep> papul: Yes.
[11:52] <soreau> cyberdo: What do you mean by your pointer freezes and by entering these apps?
[11:52] <soreau> forget it
[11:53] <cyberfin> A few seconds after launching the app, the mouse pointer freezes (I move mouse, pointer does nothing), but system in general works and keyboard works...
[11:53] <cyberfin> When I exit the app, mouse works again
[11:53] <medionpal> kinja-sheep: those are beta packages...
[11:54] <soreau> cyberfin: That is really strange. Do you have a special type of mouse?
[11:54] <cyberfin> Apps not affected are i.e: VLC, Firefox, Chrome,
[11:54] <papul> kinja-sheep, where can i find the file to add this line? deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[11:54] <kinja-sheep> medionpal: Don't use thunderbird-3.1 or firefox-3.7 -- The true linux distro does not have versions.
[11:54] <cyberfin> Logitech optical usb
[11:55] <kostkon> papul, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:55] <medionpal> kinja-sheep: ???!
[11:55] <papul> ok thanks kostasuse
[11:55] <papul> oops
[11:55] <papul> ok thanks kostkon
[11:55] <kostkon> papul, or in system → administration → software sources
[11:55] <papul> kostkon, i am using fluxbox :)
[11:55] <kinja-sheep> papul: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa && sudo aptitude update" -- You're done. Now search for thunderbird-3.0 and install it.
[11:55] <banished> cyberfin: is there anything interesting at the end of dmesg when that happens?
[11:55] <kostkon> papul, ah
[11:55] <soreau> cyberfin: Does it work if you unplug/replug the mouse?
[11:56] <soreau> cyberfin: and what banished said
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> ppa's and that add-apt-repository command is so handy
[11:56] <cyberfin> I apologise; correction its ps2
[11:56] <kinja-sheep> medionpal: I'm using Thunderbird-3.0 and Namoroka (Firefox 3.6) myself. I did used TB-3.1 but I ran into some issues so I rolled back.
[11:56] <cyberfin> and unplug/plug doesnt work
[11:56] <papul> i get this error W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EF4186FE247510BE
[11:57] <soreau> Dr_Willis: How do you install this app add repo command in karmic?
[11:57] <papul> how to add pub key?
[11:57] <cyberfin> noob question, how do I check the dmesg
[11:57] <howling> what happens if i update to fireforks 3.6?
[11:57] <medionpal> I just want it 3.0 to look like the website, which is much better then the simple interface I am getting right now, even though it says it is the 3.0 versin
[11:57] <soreau> cyberfin: 1) Open a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) 2) Type dmesg 3) Press Enter
[11:58] <kinja-sheep> medionpal: What website?
[11:58] <howling> do i lose all my stuff?
[11:58] <Gangrel> how can i install a run file?
[11:58] <howling> never
[11:58] <medionpal> http://de.www.mozillamessaging.com/de/thunderbird/
[11:58] <cyberfin> lol I though you meant dmesg | "soemthing specifc"
[11:58] <howling> gangrel. a .run file ./file.run
[11:58] <kostkon> papul, try sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys EF4186FE247510BE
[11:58] <soreau> Gangrel: ./file.run
[11:58] <cyberfin> nope, dmesg has nothing interesting to say
[11:59] <papul> ok added the key to gpg. will it work?
[11:59] <howling> gangrel but first you have to open a terminal window
[11:59] <medionpal> somehow there is filters on there, "people" etc
[11:59] <kostkon> papul, now do a sudo apt-get update
[11:59] <kinja-sheep> papul: "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 247510BE && sudo aptitude update"
[11:59] <howling> because linux is based on bass
[11:59] <Quan-Time> yo
[11:59] <soreau> cyberfin: The best thing for you to do is file a bug report if you cant find a solution
[11:59] <soreau> ! bug
[11:59] <papul> kostkon, ok that helped
[11:59] <papul> thanks a lot kostkon
[11:59] <mojo_> question question for everyone
[12:00] <howling> sudo ganjaptitude install hemp && bob marley && seeds
[12:00] <mojo_> i could not find version 2.9.x of Evolution on Lucid
[12:00] <Nachturnal> lol
[12:00] <mojo_> is there any reason behind this?
[12:00] <medionpal> http://de.www.mozillamessaging.com/de/thunderbird/features/
[12:00] <kinja-sheep> medionpal: Use a theme that resembles something Apple-like.
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> mojo_:  if it wasne tout when the disrto got released.. its not in the default repos
[12:00] <howling> lucie in the sky of diamonds
[12:00] <medionpal> but the functionality is less... that is my point
[12:01] <cyberfin> (sigh) thought so. On random thoughts, considering the apps it happens with, would it maybe be something related to the nvidia driver? I mean it must have soemthing to do with the way xorg handles the mouse?
[12:01] <Justin_`> How can I make it so the username 'dangt' only has access to the files on his desktop (in ftp and putty)
[12:01] <mojo_> thx
[12:01] <howling> in india they use Moozilla
[12:02] <medionpal> I will just stick with evolution I think
[12:02] <Justin_`> How can I make it so the username 'dangt' only has access to the files on his desktop (in ftp and putty)
[12:03] <medionpal> bye
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  why do you even want to do that?
[12:03] <medionpal> thanks
[12:03] <jetienne> !info ruby
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  he will need access to his  /home/USERNAME directory also most likely
[12:04] <MaT-dg> is there a channel for scripting related questions or can I just ask here?
[12:04] <kostkon> papul, there is this useful  app if you want to graphically manage your repos and keys http://code.google.com/p/foxoman/wiki/APTSourcesManager
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  and putty gives him a shell.  he can only access locations he owns anuyway
[12:04] <howling> you can call me al
[12:04] <papul> will this be sufficient? "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6 firefox-3.6-branding firefox-3.6-gnome-support"
[12:04] <creature> Hello. My gtk-fonts look awful until I run gnome-appearance-settings, and then they look nice. So presumably subpixel smoothing is disabled until I run it. How do I fix that?
[12:05] <howling> anjushka babushka
[12:05] <papul> will this be sufficient? "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6 firefox-3.6-branding firefox-3.6-gnome-support"
[12:05] <Justin_`> Dr_Willis, I want it because he will be hosting a java server on the Ubuntu and I don't want him accessing other files
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> papul:  try it and see?
[12:06] <papul> Dr_Willis, if some bad happens?
[12:06] <papul> how do i revert back?
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  what other files?  he can access whats in his  Home and thats it. if you want more lock down.. make a locked down user I guess.
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> papul:  apt-get remove
[12:06] <howling> apt-get demove windows
[12:06] <Justin_`> Like he can go onto the ftp server and view my files, and edit it
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> papul:  theres dozens of guiides on  installing 3.6 - ive been using the daily build ppa's for about a week now
[12:07] <Mrokii> hello. Is there a way to disable one CPU-core (of a dual-core AMD-CPU) on Ubuntu? So that only one core is used?
[12:07] <Justin_`> I don't want that, I just want him to be able to view his desktop and thats it
[12:07] <papul> howling, apt-get purge windows microsft ;)
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  give him his own user.. not yours.. and set YOUR users permissions on the files so other users cant accecss them
[12:07] <Justin_`> How do I set the permissions?
[12:07] <Justin_`> What is the chmod number?
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> 'his desktop' is a single directory in the  users home. so thats just strange
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> !chmod
[12:08] <howling> sudo aptitude install xerox
[12:08] <papul> Dr_Willis, if u r having no problems then its fine. btw what packages did u installed?
[12:08] <erUSUL> Mrokii: everytime since you boot or for only one task or how?
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> papul:  from teh daily build ppa - i forget the package name.. proberly firefox-3.6.daily or somthing
[12:09] <ugliefrog> is there a way to run  boxee in a window
[12:09] <papul> Dr_Willis, is this fine?? sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6 firefox-3.6-branding firefox-3.6-gnome-support
[12:09] <Dr_Willis>  papul  i have NO idea if thats fine.. Try it and see.
[12:09] <Mrokii> erUSUL:  The best would be to be able to disable it for some time completely. The reason is that I experience lots of crashes which all seem to occur on one of the cores. So I would like to switch it off, so only the other is used.
[12:10]  * howling is playing duke nukem 1 episode 2
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> papul:  i imagine firefox-3.6 will pull in the other pacakges
[12:10] <papul> ok
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> I used this PPA for my FF3.6 daily build --> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[12:10] <erUSUL> Mrokii: you can use a kernel parameter to boot with max cpu = 1 iirc but i do not know if you can choose which one will be used
[12:11] <ugliefrog> yay-nevermind i did it
[12:11] <howling> dr_willis: megaman using the same repo
[12:11] <papul> Dr_Willis, if i have any problem then doing apt-get remove firefox-3.6 and then apt-get install firefox will do?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> papul:  the ppa i used lets me have both the old and new firefox installed
[12:11] <dr_bro> Hello all! I have win7/kubuntu installed. grub is the boot loader but restarts the computer when i try to boot windows. any fixes?
[12:11] <Mrokii> erUSUL:  I guess that won't help than, as I would have to be able to specifically select the core that should not be enabled.
[12:11] <jetienne> q.anybody knows if there is plan to switch to ruby1.9 by default ?
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> at least i think it does.. :) ive never needed to run the older
[12:12] <papul> then i better not do it
[12:12] <howling> jetienne: according to the supertramp song ruby, it happens as soon as possible
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> papul:  whatever then..
[12:12] <mojo_> i am going out now, just want to say how much I love ubuntu community, everyone's so helpful
[12:12]  * Dr_Willis just wonders about some people
[12:12] <Mrokii> erUSUL:  Do you know any other irc-rooms I could ask? Some more-hardware-centric or such?
[12:12] <kinja-sheep> !info ruby1.9 lucid | jetienne
[12:13] <erUSUL> Mrokii: #hardware exist dunno if they can help
[12:13] <mojo_> kinja-sheep: go for ruby1.9.1
[12:13] <kinja-sheep> jetienne: There are ruby1.9 in the karmic repo as well.
[12:13] <jetienne> kinja-sheep: ? you mean what
[12:13] <jetienne> kinja-sheep: ah ok, but when it gonna be the default ?
[12:14] <tony32> anyone use tmpfs for a netbook? i tried it to keep my ssd from wearing down but a /tmp file keeps being made
[12:14] <toto__> hi guys
[12:14] <erUSUL> Mrokii: try passing    --> isolcpus=1 or isolcpus=0
[12:14] <kinja-sheep> jetienne: I hope it will in Lucid. Also, I'm sure it can be toggled to be default.
[12:15] <jetienne> kinja-sheep: the issue is that it isnt backward compatible and i dont want to test all the cases
[12:18] <toto__> i can connect myself through my other box via SSH. then in the command line i can mplayer and let the sound play from my main hifi system
[12:18] <toto__> how can i do for the movies to play in the TV via ssh?
[12:18] <jetienne> kinja-sheep: people on #ubuntu+1 told me 'quite unlikely'
[12:19] <kinja-sheep> jetienne: Oh. One only can hope. :\
[12:20] <erUSUL> Mrokii: or maxcpus=1
[12:20] <toto__> Cannot open display
[12:20] <toto__>   if i use xine; and this is logical, i don t want to get the movie in the main PC to my laptop screen: i just ant to send the execution order from my laptop for the movie to be played from my main computer
[12:21] <toto__> how can i do this?
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> toto__:  many  many media players have 'backends/controll' features that let you controll them from a remote pc.
[12:23] <howling> !seen markus wasmeier
[12:23] <cycrosism> 3 flood bots? whatfor?
[12:23] <erUSUL> cycrosism: keep the channel clean
[12:23] <cycrosism> but why 3 lol
[12:23] <erUSUL> cycrosism: in such large channel one is not enough :)
[12:23] <kinja-sheep> Why do we have multiple policemen? :\
[12:24] <menashe> shall I wait for a reply to my 2 display questions above, or simply come later when there are less users?
[12:24] <howling> kinja: because a single policeman only can read, so you need one who can write
[12:25] <neil_d> I am trying to run qemu it complains about not having /dev/kqemu I have kqemu-common installed..
[12:26] <Justin_`> I am having some problems booting up Ubuntu
[12:26] <Justin_`> Its stuck on the loading screen with caps lock and scroll lock flashing
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  thats a hard crash. :(
[12:26] <erUSUL> Justin_`: that's a kernel panic
[12:27] <werdna> Hi! I'm trying to run the Ubuntu installer, and, like the Mint installer, it doesn't seem to be able to make my (hardware RAID mirrored) drive bootable -- when I install Ubuntu, the computer doesn't boot, though the partitions are intact. The error on booting is "No bootable device -- insert bootable disk and press enter to continue", which I think comes from the BIOS (but it could well be GRUB). I'd like to know if anybody has any experience with how to r
[12:27] <howling> guru meditation
[12:27] <Justin_`> Any suggestions?
[12:27] <howling> yeah
[12:27] <howling> increase voltage
[12:27] <Justin_`> 240 isn't enough?
[12:27] <howling> nah cpu voltage
[12:27] <erUSUL> !ot | howling
[12:27] <m13e37> werdna, are you sure you have burned CD good?
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> 240 241 - whatever it takes.. :)
[12:27] <Justin_`> How do i increase it :S?
[12:27] <howling> 240 you must be in south africa or something
[12:28] <Justin_`> Australia
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:28] <howling> australia, fascinating
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  do live cd's work fine?
[12:28] <Justin_`> Ill give it a shot
[12:28] <cycrosism> Justin_`: Australia is 230
[12:28] <werdna> On Mint I found that if I tried to install GRUB, with root (hd0,1), install (hd0), I got an Error 22, partition not found
[12:28] <erUSUL> Justin_`: in the grub menu press scp or "e" to enter edit mode and remove the splash and quiet option from the kernel line press b or ctlr +x to boot
[12:28] <howling> just tell to the neighbor stopping talking with his CB Radio, so your computer works again
[12:28] <neil_d> howling: the regulation can be very bad thou..
[12:29] <werdna> m13e37: yes. I get the same issue with a burnt Mint CD and an Ubuntu CD that I got at a tech event
[12:29] <neil_d> I am trying to run qemu it complains about not having /dev/kqemu I have kqemu-common installed..
[12:29] <Justin_`> Sorry its running 300
[12:29] <howling> neil-d yeah sometime its a bad mobo
[12:29] <break_> hey. what's the difference between the packages "adobe-flashplugin" and "flashplugin-installer" and which one should i use??
[12:29] <Justin_`> Who told me to do a live cd test?
[12:29] <werdna> Also, it doesn't seem to be the sort of symptom you'd get of a corrupt CD
[12:29] <Justin_`> Do I use 'Try Ubuntu without any changes to your computer'??
[12:30] <guntbert> Justin_`: yes
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  yes that gets the live  cd booted.
[12:30] <Justin_`> Ok, Booting up.
[12:30] <howling> justin: it changes only the bits in the ram and stuff
[12:32] <break_> hey. what's the difference between the packages "adobe-flashplugin" and "flashplugin-installer" and which one should i use??
[12:33] <erUSUL> break_: i allways use flashplugin-nonfree
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> !info adobe-flashplugin
[12:33] <cycrosism> break_: flashplugin-nonfree
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> !info flashplugin-installer
[12:34] <cycrosism> nonfree
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> one dosent seem to exist... :)
[12:34] <cycrosism> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[12:34] <cycrosism> orly
[12:34] <Justin_`> Dr_Willis, The live CD worked fine.
[12:34] <iceroot> hm, no flash for arm? :(
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  if theres any older kernels listed in the grub menu -  try the iolder ones
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  none for PPC any more either
[12:35] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: ppc is dead, that is no problem but arm is coming (google netbook)
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  no flash for arm is one thing people are worried about
[12:35] <recmajkemi> how do i update to FF 3.6
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  Cell CPU is a PPC.. but  i still call it dead also
[12:36] <faileas> lol
[12:36] <faileas> well a ps3 specific distro has a limited range of hardware to support
[12:36] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: Cell cpu is also dead (ps4 dont have cell anymore)
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> recmajkemi:  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/firefox-36-stable-ubuntu-repository-ppa.html
[12:36]  * Dr_Willis waits for the PS10
[12:36] <Justin_`> FFS, Just booted off the HDD and the lights are still flashing :(
[12:36] <break_> cycrosism: hmmm... i have package adobe-flashplugin installed. i wonder where i got that from
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  try a different kernel if theres some in the menus? or is this a new clean install>
[12:37] <Justin_`> new install
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> break_:  perhaps the one downloads/makes the other?
[12:37] <Justin_`> but when i got to the meny
[12:37] <Justin_`> I think i saw 4_17?
[12:37] <ssam> iceroot, flash is dead too
[12:37] <faileas> lol
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> flash can die and die soon... :) if we are lucky
[12:37] <faileas> if only
[12:37] <Justin_`> 2.6.31-14 and 2.6.31-17
[12:37] <faileas> we had a world with html5 and ipv6 ;p
[12:37] <iceroot> ssam: you know youtube?
[12:38] <neil_d> I am trying to run qemu it complains about not having /dev/kqemu I have kqemu-common installed..  what is wrong?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  and where iPAD's wherent locked down...
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:38] <erUSUL> neil_d: maybe you neeed to load the qemu driver
[12:38] <cycrosism> iTampons
[12:38] <tertitten> anyone know how to get system-notifications updated to looking like in fedora, opensuse, mandriva etc ?
[12:38] <ssam> iceroot, yes, works fine in totem/miro/moovida
[12:38] <Justin_`> Dr_Willis, I tried the older version, still the keys are flashing -.-
[12:38] <faileas> Dr_Willis: blah. i own ONE apple device. and its a plain old ipod
[12:38] <erUSUL> neil_d: run --> find /lib/modules -name '*qemu*'
[12:38] <Justin_`> Is this version of Ubuntu no longer working?
[12:38] <iceroot> ssam: and a browser?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> ssam:  if you like moovida check out the geexbox next generation 'enna'  (i think thats the name)
[12:39] <howling> any good emulator for ps2 on ubuntutubugurumudu?
[12:39] <iceroot> howling: no
[12:39] <techtronic> any1 know how to prevent fpdns from working
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  i got an imacDV from several years ago.
[12:39] <cycrosism> techtronic: remove it
[12:39] <ssam> iceroot, yes, i miss the commonents :-(
[12:39] <recmajkemi> Dr_Willis: thanks
[12:39] <faileas> Dr_Willis: i'll never buy a general purpose device i can't install my own OS on
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> howling:  i hear one or 2 exist.but never tried them
[12:39] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: howling they dont work
[12:39] <neil_d> erUSUL: no results...
[12:39] <banished> howling: pcsx2
[12:40] <Justin_`> Dr_Willis, The lights are still flashing on both version... what is my next step? reinstal Ubuntu>
[12:40] <techtronic> cycrosism: i meant working against your box eg some one using against you
[12:40] <erUSUL> find kqemu
[12:40] <erUSUL> !find kqemu
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Justin_`:  do a mentest from the menus/live cd.. for starters perhaps.
[12:40] <break_> Dr_Willis: hmm... i think its the deb i downloaded directly from adobe.com
[12:41] <erUSUL> !find kqemu.ko
[12:42] <Justin_`> I think I might just re-install Ubuntu :(
[12:42] <Justin_`> Is there much diffrence between the Desktop and Server version?
[12:42] <banished> What do I need to crosscompile the kernel for another arhcitecture? When I try make ARCH=mips, I get cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mips32"
[12:42] <techtronic> Justin_`: server has no gui
[12:42] <erUSUL> neil_d: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/424765
[12:42] <erUSUL> neil_d: no kqemu anymore
[12:43] <Justin_`> Gah ok
[12:43] <ikonia> banished: it's a very complex proress
[12:43] <techtronic> Justin_`: what do you want to do? why are you considering server?
[12:43] <Justin_`> I just want to get the most of out my ram
[12:43] <ikonia> banished: you'll need a compiler that is aware of the other arch and tool chain to build against
[12:43] <Justin_`> But if the only diffrence is GUI then ill stay with Desktop
[12:44] <techtronic> Justin_`: how much ram have you got
[12:44] <Justin_`> 256mb
[12:44] <banished> ikonia: tell me more about that ;)
[12:44] <techtronic> run the lts
[12:44] <theadmin> Justin_`: You'd better just install Xubuntu then
[12:44] <Justin_`> Xubuntu?
[12:44] <ribot> hey ubuntuu
[12:44] <ikonia> banished: no, it's a big and complex topic you'll have to research the basics on your own
[12:44] <techtronic> theadmin: nice shout!
[12:44] <theadmin> techtronic: Em?
[12:44] <ribot> do you know something? when i set my sound off in ubuntu there is still low sound
[12:45] <theadmin> Justin_`: This is Ubuntu with the lightweight !XFCE desktop
[12:45] <banished> ribot: have you checked alsamixer?
[12:45] <Justin_`> Much diffrence?
[12:45] <techtronic> theadmin: advising Justin to use xubuntu
[12:45] <zilkomaa> how to get this kind of cursor? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr9pb14sD2E&feature=related
[12:45] <theadmin> techtronic: Yeah, why not? He wants less ram usage but wants to keep the GUI, right?
[12:46] <Justin_`> Theadmin, yes
[12:46] <techtronic> theadmin: yeah i know im saying nice call, i forgot about xubuntu
[12:46] <neil_d> erUSUL: if there is no /dev/kqemu how do I get qemu to work at full speed?  it is very slow.
[12:46] <Justin_`> Can you get all the same packages?
[12:46] <theadmin> Justin_`: It's a lot faster. You CAN install Ubuntu's normal packages inside Xubuntu, yes