[12:37] <gnomefreak> asac: i dont know never used it not even sure wth it doesx
[12:37] <gnomefreak> -x
[12:39] <gnomefreak> here it is https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/271/ not sure how to find out
[12:40] <gnomefreak> would like to package ubuntu forums menu
[12:41] <asac> gnomefreak: download xpi file and unzip :)
[12:41] <asac> then you'll see if there is a shared lib included
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:41] <asac> .xpi files are just zip files
[12:41] <asac> renamed
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:41] <asac> same goes for .jar
[12:42] <gnomefreak> checking for the 2 above
[12:43] <gnomefreak> colorzilla seems not to have a .so file that i can see in components
[12:44] <asac> just .jar files?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> rdf too
[12:44] <asac> please paste content somewhere :)
[12:44] <asac> should be in components folder
[12:44] <gnomefreak> dll and one xpt
[12:44] <asac> is there such a folder?
[12:45] <asac> yeah
[12:45] <asac> then you got the windows build
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:45] <asac> dll is windows lib
[12:45] <gnomefreak> yeah
[12:45] <asac> there should be a linux link somewhere
[12:46] <gnomefreak> the one i wanted doesnt eve have compents file
[12:46] <asac> which extension is it?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-forums menu
[12:46] <asac> that crashes too?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> no i love it
[12:47] <asac> or you want to have it in archive?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> yeah
[12:47] <asac> probably ubuntu specific stuff can be added even though extension is non-native
[12:47] <asac> colorzilla should be packaged
[12:48] <gnomefreak> colorzilla has one download for all from what i can see
[12:48] <asac> if its free software
[12:48] <asac> and sources are available under gpl or lgpl
[12:49] <gnomefreak> compoents has dll.linux dll.mac .dll dll.macintel and xpt
[12:49] <gnomefreak> for colorzilla
[12:49] <asac> yeah ... probably wrong xpi
[12:49] <asac> dll.linux?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:50] <gnomefreak> cant open it i will keep looking to see if a linux build but looks like tis for all
[12:50] <asac> yeah :)
[12:50] <asac> its a shared object with bad extension :)
[12:51] <asac> however mozilla appears to look at this anyway
[12:51] <asac> http://www.iosart.com/firefox/colorzilla/
[12:51] <asac> you see the source somewhere?
[12:53] <asac> maybe someone should approach the author and ask
[12:53] <gnomefreak> what extension would source have?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> tar?
[12:53] <asac> tar.gz probably ... but might be zip too
[12:53] <asac> you found something?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> no xpi
[12:54] <gnomefreak> http://www.iosart.com/blog/2004/08/13/a-multiplatform-extension-for-firefox/
[12:55] <gnomefreak> that explains why there are only .dll files :(
[12:57] <asac> actually i am looking for the sources
[12:57] <gnomefreak> if you read the comments at the bottom it says the source can be found in foxytunes download :(
[12:57] <asac> oh
[12:57] <asac> you have a link?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> The code can be found in my FoxyTunes extension (foxytunesOverlay.js)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> im looking for it
[12:59] <asac> i wrote the author if this is free-softwar
[12:59] <asac> e
[12:59] <asac> or not
[01:01] <gnomefreak> http://www.foxytunes.com/
[01:01] <gnomefreak> i dont think it is :(
[01:01] <gnomefreak> i will research the ubuntu forums menu one little later
[01:01] <asac> then we can do nothing ... but to see why mozilla doesn't deny to load that extension, but crashes instead
[01:02] <asac> maybe author will free the software if he sees that his software might become readily available to more users
[01:02] <gnomefreak> true
[01:04] <asac> gnomefreak: do you have the old firefox version for feisty in your apt-cache?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> asac: i might hold on
[01:04] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: i may as well
[01:04] <asac> it would be good to know if the totem crash happens with that one as well ... or if this is a regression introduced by last upload
[01:04] <gnomefreak> no i dont
[01:04] <asac> i don't have  the old package anymore
[01:05] <Admiral_Chicago> i have firefox_<IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1_i386
[01:05] <asac> thats the new one ... any other results on apt-cache show firefox ?
[01:05] <asac> <IP_ADDRESS>+0... something
[01:05] <Admiral_Chicago> there is an archive somewhere no ?
[01:05] <asac> i don't think so
[01:06] <asac> i still have the diff.gz lying around
[01:06] <asac> so maybe I have to respin that
[01:06] <asac> in order to test
[01:06] <asac> would have been more convenient if someone had the old package lying aroun
[01:06] <Admiral_Chicago> let me check something real quick
[01:06] <asac> d
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=firefox
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> there is the 0 file but for Edgy
[01:07] <asac> yeah
[01:07] <asac> but we need feisty :)
[01:08] <Admiral_Chicago> debian has 1 as well
[01:08] <asac> yes, but we cannot use debians
[01:09] <Admiral_Chicago> wait I have an idea...
[01:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm on the mozilla FTP site...its not cooperating with my computer
[01:10] <gnomefreak> asac: i found tb <IP_ADDRESS> :)
[01:12] <gnomefreak> only xpi :(
[01:13] <asac> what?
[01:13] <asac> yeah ... probably some pushing of next release ... might as well be replaced by a new build if there are last minute problems
[01:14] <gnomefreak> emailing the writer for uubntu forums menu
[01:14] <asac> good ... let him know if he is interested in getting this packaged
[01:14] <gnomefreak> asac: i will package the tb .10 release but do you have a ubuntu.com email i can use for maintainer or shoul di use mine?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> think we hav ea fix for the totem crashes :)
[01:17] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/85112
[01:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]
[01:18] <asac> gnomefreak: please you mine for now<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... I think you should first take over maintainership of some universe package ... maybe an extension or two for now.
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ok i just needed your ubuntu email :)
[01:18] <gnomefreak> didnt know if you had one
[01:18] <asac> can you confirm that it fixes it?
[01:19] <asac> gnomefreak: its a good excercise, but i will review the diff anyway before upload.
[01:19] <gnomefreak> thats fine
[01:19] <asac> its important that you list the fixed security issues in changelog
[01:19] <asac> there should be several exampleson how this is down
[01:19] <asac> I will give you the list as soon as its available
[01:19] <gnomefreak> you asked me to do it last week but it wasnt relelsed yet
[01:22] <asac> btw, the edgy packages you build should be available in
[01:22] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/mt-edgy/
[01:22] <asac> so adding
[01:22] <asac> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/mt-edgy/ ./
[01:22] <asac> to sources.list should be good
[01:24] <asac> ok bug 85112 is now our master bug for all totem crashes that have indication that they occur because if this symbol mess
[01:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85112
[01:24] <asac> we should mark them as duplicates properly
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> speaking of emails...where could I get my @ubuntu.com email addy?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> if your a member about a week after you get memebership you can use it
[01:26] <gnomefreak> its not an address but its a foward
[01:26] <gnomefreak> forward.
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: your LP email is used for your ubuntu.com address
[01:27] <gnomefreak> if i email you at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it will show up in your LP email address
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on let me think about that. I know the @ubuntu.com gets fowarded to my LP address. It this case @gmail.com
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> and the LP name becames the prefix, so<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:28] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> which will get fowarded to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:28] <gnomefreak> people can send to it but i havent figured out how to send from it yet :(
[01:28] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> isn't there some kind of set up I have to do though?
[01:29] <asac> i think ubuntu does not provide an smtp service
[01:29] <asac> so probably just fake from address and sent through your default smtp server
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> my network doesn't support it regardless...
[01:29] <gnomefreak> asac: `the only change by the looks of this is Fixed: 366113 - mozilla-plugin.pc should not depend on mozilla-xpcom.pc  but i will look into it more before i package it
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> oh I see, maybe I was reading too much into this..going to try something...
[01:30] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: yeah ... just USE it :)
[01:30] <asac> gnomefreak: where is that from?
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i plan too...
[01:32] <asac> gnomefreak: 366113
[01:32] <asac> actually landed in <IP_ADDRESS> ... which is not yet out
[01:32] <asac> why do we see this issue at all?
[01:33] <asac> but it really smells like this was the case in <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:33] <asac> --> translated: <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:34] <gnomefreak> http://planet.mozilla.org/
[01:35] <asac> /usr/lib/pkgconfig/firefox-plugin.pc contains
[01:35] <asac> Requires: firefox-xpcom = <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:35] <asac> so this is not our issue :/
[01:35] <gnomefreak> tb <IP_ADDRESS> on the above address lists it as a build config
[01:36] <gnomefreak> from bug 366113 seems like it was for all mozilla products
[01:37] <asac> yes i see that ... the question is why did totem work before, but stopped to work in <IP_ADDRESS> though the bug you refer to is fixed<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:38] <asac> which is not yet out
[01:38] <asac> anyway ... lets see if an upgrade heals us
[01:38] <asac> then we should bother
[01:38] <asac> ^^ not
[01:38] <gnomefreak> i was refering to tb side of that bug. but the totem bug was fixed in totem so it seemed to be a totem issue
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> according to Sebastian Bacher that is fix released
[01:39] <asac> ok ... i think its just a coincident that upstream drops plugin dependency on xpcom and we have a missing xpcom link in totem :)
[01:39] <gnomefreak> yeah it was an issue with totem
[01:40] <gnomefreak> yep
[01:40] <asac> hmm ... new totem is not yet available?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> mz 366113
[01:41] <gnomefreak> mozilla 366113
[01:41] <Ubugtu> Mozilla bug 366113 in Build Config "mozilla-plugin.pc should not depend on mozilla-xpcom.pc" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366113
[01:41] <gnomefreak> ah
[01:41] <asac> ah
[01:41] <asac> :-P
[01:41] <asac> gtk
[01:41] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:42] <asac> so do we have a usable stacktrace of a crash due to this totem issue?
[01:42] <asac> we somehow need to filter out all crash reports from that
[01:43] <asac> then mark as duplicate and *after* this is done, mark as fix released :)
[01:43] <gnomefreak> no not really just what we have seems to be it
[01:45] <gnomefreak> can we rename thunderbird to thunderchicken :(
[01:45] <asac> why?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ;)
[01:47] <gnomefreak> its funnier sounding :)
[01:47] <asac> bug 63230 ... can you retrace?
[01:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63230 in firefox "firefox crash after opening totem in a tab" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/63230
[01:48] <gnomefreak> in a few i will try
[01:48] <gnomefreak> i want to get source downloaded first retrace == alot of cpu/mem
[01:48] <asac> k
[01:50] <gnomefreak> no not until we have newer crash report
[01:51] <gnomefreak> firefox 1.99+2.0b2+dfsg-1ubuntu2  we dont have anywhere
[01:51] <asac> bug 71315 as well
[01:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71315 in firefox "Crash with totem when opening an MPG link" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71315
[01:51] <asac> gnomefreak: ah ... ok
[01:51] <asac> maybe 71315 is ok?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> ill tell you as soon as it shows
[01:52] <gnomefreak> should be
[01:53] <gnomefreak> yes should be fine
[01:54] <gnomefreak> ok should have it by morning
[01:57] <asac> ty
[02:04] <gnomefreak> should i try to add the replytolist patch in <IP_ADDRESS> tb?
[02:04] <asac> we probably won't ship it for now.
[02:05] <asac> I might request approval upstream ... but not for <IP_ADDRESS> anymore. I guess for next release this should be doable
[02:05] <gnomefreak> ok
[02:20] <gnomefreak> <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1+mt sound goo dot you?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> good to*
[02:41] <gnomefreak> retrace is done uploading files now good trace we got :)
[02:45] <gnomefreak> mt-needconfirm is set on bug 71315 because ther eis no mt-traced defined in any wiki so i guess we stopped using it.
[02:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71315 in firefox "Crash with totem when opening an MPG link" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71315
[02:46] <gnomefreak> asac: please look at 71315 when you get time trace is done
[03:01] <gnomefreak> it seems to not have been released yet the tar isnt a bz2 so i will wait for the upstream tar on mozilla.org or ftp.mozilla.org.   night everyone
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> guys, I totally lied to you all, I won't be able to make the meeting tomorrow
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> my sister is visiting my college to possibly come here next yea, I will be with her
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Ubugtu: you're in charge while I'm gone
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> :). let me know how it goes
[11:36] <gnomefreak> yayyyyyyyy i have it :)
[11:37] <gnomefreak> i got source and ok for ubuntu forums menu :)
[12:15] <gnomefreak> hmm
[12:47] <asac> ok totem link problem has been a regression in latest upload.
[12:48] <asac> bug 71315
[12:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71315 in firefox "Crash with totem when opening an MPG link" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71315
[12:58] <gnomefreak> for edgy?
[12:58] <asac> no ... thats why i think that the link problem solves all bugs
[12:58] <asac> just in feisty
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:59] <gnomefreak> im looking for dupes of the totem crash bugs atm (really needs someone with mozilla related bughelper for this
[12:59] <asac> i guess all other crashes are still there
[12:59] <asac> cant you just search for NS_CStringContainerInit
[12:59] <asac> ?
[12:59] <asac> hmm
[12:59] <asac> so how can i use bughelper?
[01:00] <asac> we have that really stupid clue file in wiki ... i would like to test :)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> if you have davids files for bughelper you can search that string
[01:00] <asac> files?
[01:00] <asac> i only know of one file
[01:00] <gnomefreak> his clue files
[01:00] <asac> that is in wiki
[01:00] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Bughelper/ClueFile
[01:00] <gnomefreak> i thought he had a few and was gonna make one for this issue
[01:01] <asac> thats the one I know of
[01:01] <gnomefreak> afaik that is just to search tags
[01:01] <asac> dfarning isnot here yet ...hmm
[01:02] <asac> bughelper depends on bzr ... tse
[01:02] <asac> funny
[01:03] <gnomefreak> well i cant seem to find any more dupes but i will be testing to see if its fixed in this update
[01:13] <gnomefreak> asac: i cc
[01:14] <gnomefreak> I cc'ed you the replys to and from Adam(the ubuntu forums menu guy) it has the attachment of what he sent me as source. Im not sure what the rules file should look like and what the depends are. Can you (when you get a minute) unofficially build it so i can look at the files to get an idea of what they should look like?
[01:15] <asac> will look
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ty
[01:17] <gnomefreak> looks like the totem/fx issue has been fixed. im gonna check a few of the links given to see if all are good
[01:17] <asac> not seen the mail so far
[01:17] <asac> yes it has
[01:17] <asac> did we see crashers of other plugins as well recently?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> not that im aware of
[01:21] <gnomefreak> i dont like that this page resizes but im betting its the site not fx
[01:21] <asac> if you refer to the bug i commented on, then i agree :)
[01:22] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/86243
[01:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86243 in firefox "Firefox crashes when accessing WindowsMedia content  (dup-of: 85112)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[01:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]
[01:22] <gnomefreak> that one
[01:22] <asac> i want a cluefile for that string
[01:22] <asac> i can't get bughelper work
[01:22] <gnomefreak> http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=2939419&md5=486267e1edd7ec32e7a2a4d076f71593 is the link that does it for me
[01:23] <asac> (feisty2)asac@hector:~/ubuntu/clue$ bugxml -a firefox NS_CStringContainerInit "TOTEM NO LIBXPCOM CRASH"
[01:23] <asac> #Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:23] <asac>   File "/usr/bin/bugxml", line 75, in <module>
[01:23] <asac>     main()
[01:23] <gnomefreak> asac: im waiting for david to get it acked for upload to bughelper
[01:23] <asac>   File "/usr/bin/bugxml", line 48, in main
[01:23] <asac>     conf.local_packages_dir.strip(),
[01:23] <asac> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'strip'
[01:23] <asac> uploaded? ... we should be able to install locally too, right?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> asac: yes
[01:24] <gnomefreak> but if its uploaded to bughelper than all we have to do is install bughelper and its in there
[01:24] <gnomefreak> marking this bug as fix released since i get no more crashes on the sites listed
[01:25] <asac> mark it duplicate please
[01:25] <gnomefreak> thats the error you get when making the clue files
[01:25] <gnomefreak> a duplicate of what?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> bug 85112 was fixed as well as all dupes of it
[01:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85112
[01:26] <asac> yeah ... i want to see all duplicates found first :)
[01:26] <gnomefreak> i cant find any more dupes i was looking all morning
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ok
[01:26] <asac> do you think we catched them all?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> i think we did yes since i cant find anymore. i see alot of JS crashes but not really any totem+fx media crashes
[01:27] <gnomefreak> maybe wait for david to run bughelper on it
[01:27] <asac> ... ok, but lets wait for a clue search, ok?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ;)
[01:28] <asac> so we find reports that have the string in comment but an unreasonable description ;)
[01:28] <gnomefreak> btw i was playing with tb <IP_ADDRESS> last night but it was a tar.gz not a bz2 so im gonna wait for official release
[01:28] <gnomefreak> i will get with david if i see him and see what clue files we have for it and see whats going on
[01:29] <asac> tar.gz?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> yeah
[01:29] <gnomefreak> not sure who spun it but i found it FUCK
[01:29] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:29] <asac> at best, david can setup a short instructios on how to properly set things up to develop clue files locally too
[01:30] <gnomefreak> and use them
[01:30] <gnomefreak> fx just crahsed
[01:30] <gnomefreak> i had one of those links open and after closing fx it crashed
[01:31] <asac> you know how you can checkout a tag?
[01:31] <asac> i think its bad to take arbitrary tarballs from the net to build testbuilds
[01:32] <asac> so better take from cvs
[01:32] <gnomefreak> agreed it was from planet mozilla so i figured it was safe but will wait for official
[01:32] <gnomefreak> oh this is bad
[01:33] <gnomefreak> we need to go over all the dupes of that bug
[01:33] <asac> i think so too
[01:33] <asac> i guess all posted before feb 17 cannot be dups
[01:33] <asac> as this is the date when I introduced this
[01:34] <asac> no feb 15
[01:34] <asac> but more like feb 16 ... so that is the range to decide
[01:34] <gnomefreak> this is with new totem. im gonna send all my reports up on a bug and i will give you link so you can read it properly but from what i can tell its the same as some that were marked
[01:34] <asac> will you ... or shallI ?
[01:35] <asac> what?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> not sure yet i wasnt you to read the crash first to make sure im right that it was totem crash like before
[01:35] <gnomefreak> want*
[01:36] <asac> ok ... if unsure just paste here
[01:36] <asac> we can discuss it then
[01:36] <asac> bug 79491 should be too old for this issue
[01:36] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79491 in firefox "Firefox crashes while playing a video with totem (dup-of: 85112)" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79491
[01:36] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85112
[01:37] <asac>  oh ... no it might actually be one of the first reports valid
[01:37] <asac> oh sorry for confusion
[01:37] <asac> jan 16
[01:37] <gnomefreak> i think anything without a gdb ran we cant mark as dupe
[01:37] <asac> of course not this bug
[01:37] <asac> we can mark any bug that has NS_CStringContainerInit noted in comment
[01:37] <asac> as dupe
[01:38] <asac> if that is on console from reporter, than its definitly a dupe
[01:38] <asac> /than/then/
[01:40] <asac> bug 85102
[01:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85102 in totem "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/totem/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so: undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit (dup-of: 85112)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85102
[01:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85112
[01:40] <asac> is interesting
[01:40] <asac> it has been posted on feb 14
[01:40] <asac> that should be before the upload
[01:40] <asac> hmm
[01:41] <asac> did the initial reporter mention the string NS_CStringContainerInit ... or was it added later (e.g. by me?)
[01:42] <gnomefreak> not sure
[01:44] <asac> interesting ... the initial report was about liferea ... then the author noted that this happens in firefox too ... but that comment was after upload
[01:44] <gnomefreak> reporter did it
[01:45] <gnomefreak> from what i can tell atleast
[01:45] <asac> bug 85174 is unlikely to be a dupe
[01:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85174 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with wmv in html page (dup-of: 85112)" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85174
[01:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85112
[01:45] <asac> first comment on NS_CStringContainerInit was posted on Feb 18
[01:46] <asac> all garbage
[01:47] <gnomefreak> the upload was the 19th for the fix
[01:47] <gnomefreak> /usr/bin/liferea-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/totem/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so: undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit
[01:47] <gnomefreak> he is getting that error though
[01:47] <gnomefreak> im still uploading my crash
[01:47] <asac> yes ... upload of firefox was 17th
[01:47] <asac> first comment about that symbol 18th
[01:48] <asac> ... but that was a new fix
[01:48] <gnomefreak> i would look for any of them with a crash report attached not a gdb and compare with mine
[01:48] <asac> same for 85198
[01:48] <asac> bug 85198
[01:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85198 in firefox "[Feisty]  FireFox crashes on trying to open http://www.wretch.cc/blog/cinphy (dup-of: 85112)" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85198
[01:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85112
[01:48] <asac> you dropped the comment .... so its not a dupe ... but since no crash report attached i will reject it afterwards.
[01:50] <gnomefreak> oh shit i think i knwo this bug all too well :(
[01:51] <asac> hehe
[01:51] <asac> ok bug 85511 appears to be the first report on this
[01:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85511 in firefox "Firefox Crashes with no warning after an ubuntu update. (dup-of: 85112)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85511
[01:51] <gnomefreak> there are something like 10 of them reported or atleast same title. not sure if its apport reports the same title for all bugs or not though
[01:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85112
[01:51] <asac> i assume all other duplicates are correct
[01:51] <asac> because they have higher bug numbers
[01:52] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+filebug/napC4Xl2L0yDIm3L9fA8pjLQs2Z
[01:53] <gnomefreak> take a look at that the upper section
[01:53] <asac> what does it do?
[01:53] <asac> or what does it tell me :)
[01:54] <asac> you have latest totem installed? ... can you show me the dependencies of totem-mozilla package?
[01:55] <asac> of the latest version i mean
[01:55] <asac> i want to keep old to keep it reproducible for now
[01:55] <gnomefreak> Provides: totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin, totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Depends: totem-xine (>= 2.17.91-0ubuntu3) | totem-gstreamer (>= 2.17.91-0ubuntu3), dbus
[01:56] <asac> ok and how about totem-xine
[01:59] <gnomefreak> give me a minute i wanna get this report finished real fast.
[02:00] <asac> no need to show dependencies
[02:00] <asac> already found it
[02:01] <gnomefreak> Depends: libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.13.1), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.15.0), libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.15.1), libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1), libcairo2 (>= 1.3.12), libdbus-1-3 (>= 0.94), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.72), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.2), libgconf2-4 (>= 2.13.5), libglade2-0 (>= 1:2.5.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.9), libgnome-desktop-2 (>= 2.11.1), libgnome-keyring0 (>= 0.7.1), libgnome2
[02:02] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:02] <asac> k
[02:02] <gnomefreak> asac: take a look wh9ile im gone? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/86265
[02:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[02:05] <asac> can u reproduce this?
[02:05] <asac> i have the feeling that this might be the other issue we are hunting
[02:06] <asac> is there a dbg package for totem?
[02:06] <asac> would be good to know where in totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin () it crashes
[02:07] <gnomefreak> thats my bug
[02:08] <gnomefreak> i just filed that bug
[02:08] <gnomefreak> im pinging seb128 atm about it
[02:10] <asac> about dbg package?
[02:10] <asac> if you can reproduce i would like to test something
[02:10] <asac> actually there is just one line that might crash
[02:10] <asac> in totem code
[02:11] <gnomefreak> i filed bug 86265
[02:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86265
[02:13] <gnomefreak> he said its a differnet bug
[02:13] <gnomefreak> he ONLY fixed missing symbols
[02:13] <asac> yes it is
[02:14] <asac> that is out of question
[02:14] <asac> can you reproduce this?
[02:14] <asac> maybe it should happen if you go to a site with video and then close the tab afterwards ... or navigate away or something
[02:15] <gnomefreak> asac: i filed the bug so yes i can :)
[02:15] <asac> cool
[02:16] <asac> please get totem source ... apply the patch I send you and see if it goes away
[02:16] <gnomefreak> i guess i have to go through the other 10 bugs with same titel to find out if its same bug
[02:17] <gnomefreak> just totem or totme-xine?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> totem-xine*
[02:17] <asac> 100% ?
[02:17] <asac> reproducible
[02:17] <asac> it doesn't matter ... its all from the same source
[02:17] <gnomefreak> well seeing as it happened to me i would have to say yes
[02:18] <gnomefreak> my fx crashed i reported the bug 86265
[02:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox crash [@totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86265
[02:19] <asac> i don't see it when visiting that bug ... what do you need to do to crash?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> asac: go to bug 86243 and click the link hes says crashed for him (with feisty) and leave it up for 5 minutes or so than close. than i get the apport reporter
[02:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86243 in firefox "Firefox crashes when accessing WindowsMedia content  (dup-of: 85112)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86243
[02:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85112
[02:21] <gnomefreak> now if i can do it every time i dont have a clue.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> give me a minute lets see if i can
[02:22] <asac> thats what i try to ask you :)
[02:23] <gnomefreak> this time it crashed on load
[02:23] <gnomefreak> loading the page
[02:23] <gnomefreak> gonna look at stack see how close to same it is from last time
[02:29] <gnomefreak> same stacktrace
[02:29] <gnomefreak> i will get you a link to try
[02:30] <asac> its fine
[02:31] <gnomefreak> http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=2939419&md5=486267e1edd7ec32e7a2a4d076f71593  does this link crash for you at all in feistys fx either while loading or after closing?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> what it looks like is due to the missing symbol it wasnt crashing but closing now that the symbol is fixed its allowing it to crash
[02:35] <asac> it crashes
[02:35] <gnomefreak> from what you can tell its due to totem plugin?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> atleast thats how i read the report
[02:44] <asac> gnomefreak: can you run a retrace on that stacktrace?
[02:44] <asac> with totem -dbgsym installed (e.g. run apport -d ??)
[02:44] <gnomefreak> not without core dump
[02:45] <gnomefreak> i may have the full file
[02:45] <gnomefreak> give me a sec
[02:45] <asac> there is a coredump attached to bug 86265
[02:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox crash [@totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86265
[02:46] <gnomefreak> im running it
[02:46] <gnomefreak> i still had the crash log
[02:47] <gnomefreak> its running
[02:48] <gnomefreak> crap
[02:48] <gnomefreak> he really needs to update his frigging repos
[02:49] <gnomefreak> WARNING: library /usr/lib/totem/libtotem-basic-plugin.so not known to firefox <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1 dependencies (using totem-xine 2.17.91-0ubuntu3)
[02:49] <gnomefreak> a bunch of them because of the firefox version you released so i will end up installing all -dbg packages see if that helps if this is no good
[02:51] <gnomefreak> but we will see what i get brb while its running
[02:56] <asac> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407679
[02:56] <Ubugtu> Gnome bug 407679 in Browser plugin "Crash on webtv.tv2.no" [Critical,New]
[02:56] <asac> can you try to apply and test if your crash is gone?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> when im done with retrace. i also need the command and the path to place the patch
[02:58] <asac> i can tell
[02:59] <gnomefreak> looks like its grabbing the -dbgsym for everything. want me to upload stack and threadstack to the bug for this crash?
[02:59] <asac> sure ... just because i am curious :)
[03:00] <asac> how a proper stack with dbgsym looks like
[03:01] <gnomefreak> thats what i just ran
[03:02] <asac> not yet there
[03:04] <gnomefreak> ok uploaded retrace info to bug 86265
[03:04] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox crash [@totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86265
[03:04] <asac> are totem -dbgsym packages installed
[03:05] <asac> never mind
[03:05] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:05] <gnomefreak> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=82498&action=view  is the patch right?
[03:06] <asac> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=82498
[03:06] <asac> yes
[03:06] <asac> apt-get source totem
[03:06] <gnomefreak> already did
[03:07] <asac> ok
[03:07] <asac> change to totem directory
[03:07] <asac> and use
[03:07] <asac> dpkg-edit-patch to create a new one
[03:07] <asac> e.g.
[03:08] <asac> dpkg-edit-patch 10_gnomebug_407679_crash_in_totemScriptablePlugin_destructor
[03:08] <asac> done?
[03:09] <asac> then download patch
[03:09] <asac> and appy
[03:09] <asac> apply
[03:09] <asac> e.g.
[03:10] <asac> patch -p0 </tmp/downloaded_patch
[03:10] <asac> if that worked
[03:10] <asac> you exit dpatch-edit mode by hitting Ctrl-D
[03:10] <asac> afterwards a new file debian/patches/10_gnomebug_407679_crash_in_totemScriptablePlugin_destructor.dpatch
[03:10] <asac> should be there
[03:10] <asac> with the patch included
[03:11] <asac> and it should be listed in debian/patches/00list
[03:11] <asac> you get it?
[03:12] <asac> sorry
[03:12] <asac> its not dpkg-edit-patch
[03:12] <asac> but
[03:12] <asac> dpatch-edit-patch of course
[03:13] <gnomefreak> ok hold on i got tied up for a minute
[03:13] <asac> sure
[03:14] <gnomefreak> i run dpkg-edit-patch 10_gnomebug_407679_crash_in_totemScriptablePlugin_destructor in totem dir right?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> bash: dpkg-edit-patch: command not found  what package do i need?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> i just searched for dpkg-edit and found nothing
[03:28] <asac> dpatch-edit-patch
[03:28] <asac> see above :)
[03:30] <gnomefreak> yeah its stopping
[03:30] <asac> what?

[03:30] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/totem-2.17.91$ dpatch-edit-patch 10_gnomebug_407679_crash_in_totemScriptablePlugin_destructor
[03:30] <gnomefreak> dpatch-edit-patch: * /home/gnomefreak/totem-2.17.91/debian/patches/10_gnomebug_407679_crash_in_totemScriptablePlugin_destructor.dpatch does not exist, it will be created as a new dpatch.
[03:30] <gnomefreak> dpatch-edit-patch: * Copying /home/gnomefreak/totem-2.17.91 to reference directory.
[03:30] <gnomefreak> dpatch-edit-patch: * Cleaning /tmp/dpep-ref.x22783/totem-2.17.91
[03:30] <gnomefreak> debian/rules:10: /usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/uploaders.mk: No such file or directory
[03:30] <gnomefreak> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/uploaders.mk'.  Stop.

[03:31] <asac> wierd ... i will try in a minute to see whats that
[03:33] <gnomefreak> and grabbing the patch with wget is weird too i have to hit enter because it says 100% but never brings me back to prompt
[03:33] <gnomefreak> its full patch though
[03:35] <gnomefreak> ther eis also no debien dir after unpacking totems tar
[03:36] <gnomefreak> there is* debian*
[03:37] <asac> you are doing wrong then
[03:37] <asac> ok
[03:37] <asac> apt-get source
[03:37] <asac> should extract the dir for you
[03:37] <asac> if you have downloaded dsc diff.gz and orig.tar.gz in pieces
[03:37] <asac> you can run
[03:37] <asac> dpkg-source -x somepacke_....dsc
[03:37] <asac> to extract
[03:38] <asac> don't do it manually (e.g. no tar xzf  on orig)
[03:38] <gnomefreak> should i put them in the totem dir?
[03:38] <asac> what?
[03:38] <asac> just remove everything you have
[03:38] <asac> then run apt-get source totem :)
[03:40] <gnomefreak> ok re running give me a bit of time for it to finish
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ok done
[03:42] <gnomefreak> i have all 3 (tar, diff, dsc)
[03:43] <gnomefreak> ok ran dpkg-source -x totem_bleh.dsc
[03:43] <gnomefreak> ah now i have debian dir.
[03:44] <gnomefreak> ok now should i try to run dpatch?
[03:45] <asac> yeah
[03:45] <asac> dpatch-edit-patch <nameofpatch>
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[03:45] <asac> then patch (with attachment from gnome bug)
[03:45] <asac> then exit temporary totem edit directory by ctrl-D or typing exit :)
[03:46] <asac> then there is a new patch in debian/patches/
[03:46] <asac> you need to add it to 00list
[03:46] <asac> then edit changelog and fire
[03:47] <gnomefreak> its not letting me run dpatch-edit-patch <nameofpatch>
[03:47] <asac> why?
[03:47] <gnomefreak> attachment.cgi?id=82498 is name of patch
[03:47] <asac> no
[03:47] <asac> see above
[03:47] <asac> 10_<something>
[03:47] <asac> 10_gnomebug_407679_crash_in_totemScriptablePlugin_destru
[03:48] <asac> ctor
[03:48] <gnomefreak> i didnt see a patch with that name though
[03:48] <asac> thats how we will name it
[03:48] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[03:48] <asac> its not a file, but a name you have to choose
[03:48] <asac> the file in debian/patches will be named that way
[03:49] <gnomefreak> so run dpatch-edit-patch 10_gnomebug_407679_crash_in_totemScriptablePlugin_destructor   should i add patch name to end of that command?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> dpatch-edit-patch 10_gnomebug_407679_crash_in_totemScriptablePlugin_destructor attachment.cgi?id=82498   like that?
[03:49] <asac> no
[03:49] <asac> just run without file
[03:50] <gnomefreak> k
[03:50] <gnomefreak> still stopping
[03:50] <asac> dpatch-edit-patch changes to edit mode and will record all changes you do inside of that
[03:50] <asac> in a dpatch file
[03:50] <asac> you enter an interactive shell
[03:51] <gnomefreak> it doesnt
[03:51] <asac> you sure?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> dpatch-edit-patch: * Cleaning /tmp/dpep-ref.y23675/totem-2.17.91
[03:51] <gnomefreak> debian/rules:10: /usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/uploaders.mk: No such file or directory
[03:51] <gnomefreak> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/uploaders.mk'.  Stop.
[03:52] <gnomefreak> same exact as i pasted above when i ran it for the first time
[03:52] <asac> then you do something wrong ... cant tell from here ... works well in feisty for me
[03:53] <asac> If you wish to abort the process, exit the shell such that it returns an exit
[03:53] <asac> code of "230". This is typically done by exiting the shell with the command
[03:53] <asac> 'exit 230'.
[03:53] <asac> (feisty2)asac@hector:/tmp/dpep-work.n32640/totem-2.17.91$
[03:53] <asac> thats how it ends for me
[03:54] <gnomefreak> i will pastebin what im doing
[03:54] <asac> i just run dpatch-edit-patch my_new_patch
[03:54] <asac> in directory
[03:54] <asac> totem-2.17.91
[03:54] <asac> replace my_new_patch with any name you like
[03:54] <asac> k
[03:55] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6572/
[03:56] <asac> hmmm ... install gnome-pkg-tools
[03:56] <asac> ??
[03:56] <gnomefreak> ill try
[03:56] <asac> its in the build-depends
[03:56] <asac> you should do
[03:56] <asac> apt-get build-deps totem
[03:56] <gnomefreak> ah its installing
[03:57] <gnomefreak> will run build-dep next to make sure i have everything
[03:57] <asac> :)
[03:58] <gnomefreak> E: Build-dependencies for totem could not be satisfied.
[03:58] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:58] <asac> aptitude update
[03:58] <asac> in advance
[03:58] <gnomefreak> but i have gnome-pkg-tools
[03:58] <asac> might new package have landed
[03:58] <asac> you need them anyway, otherwise you won't be able to build totem
[03:58] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:05] <gnomefreak> running upgrade right now and i will try build-dep again :(
[04:05] <asac> update :)
[04:05] <asac> not upgrade :)
[04:08] <gnomefreak> after update i tried again same error
[04:09] <gnomefreak> so i figured lets upgrade and try since i have to upgrade anyway
[04:09] <asac> k
[04:09] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get build-dep totem (that should work damnit)
[04:12] <gnomefreak> does it work for you? totem is a dummy package from what i get from search totem, should i try build-dep tptem-xine maybe?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> s/tptem-xine/totem-xine
[04:13] <asac> what happens if you run the above line?
[04:13] <asac> iirc i installed build-deps a minute ago
[04:13] <asac> in that way
[04:13] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep totem
[04:13] <gnomefreak> Reading package lists... Done
[04:13] <gnomefreak> Building dependency tree
[04:13] <gnomefreak> Reading state information... Done
[04:13] <gnomefreak> E: Build-dependencies for totem could not be satisfied.
[04:29] <asac> and apt-get update did run successfully?
[04:30] <gnomefreak> still cant get them
[04:31] <gnomefreak> aptitude doesnt have a build-dep command neither does smart im gonna try -f install
[04:31] <gnomefreak> still nothing
[04:33] <gnomefreak> asac: what totem version do you have?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> it works for other packages just not totem
[04:35] <asac> 2.17.91-0ubuntu3
[04:35] <gnomefreak> same here :(
[04:35] <asac> hmmm ... i guess I will upload the prepared package (already it it by now) ... maybe you build it and see if issue is gone?
[04:37] <asac> ok ... you can grep source pieces from http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/mt-feisty/
[04:37] <gnomefreak> well i got dpatch to work
[04:37] <asac> and dpkg-source -x totem_2.17.91-0ubuntu4.dsc
[04:37] <asac> but wait a minute ... orig.tar.gz is not yet uploaded
[04:37] <asac> great
[04:37] <gnomefreak> what do i do while im in dpatch?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> im gonna continue than worry about it before build
[04:38] <asac> when you are in dpatch
[04:38] <asac> you apply patch
[04:38] <asac> then exit dpatch
[04:39] <asac> and document your changes in debian/changelog as well as enable patch in 00list
[04:39] <asac> then you are done and can spin
[04:40] <gnomefreak> k running patch -po
[04:40] <gnomefreak> -p0
[04:41] <asac> yes
[04:42] <gnomefreak> does this look right? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6583/
[04:43] <gnomefreak> patch -p0 is taking a long time to finish
[04:44] <gnomefreak> dpatch-edit-patch: Warning: * No base-patch supplied, not applying any patches. is my main concern
[04:44] <asac> ah ok
[04:44] <asac> thats not a problem for now
[04:44] <asac> as we don' change files already affected by any other patch
[04:44] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:45] <asac> if you need some patch applied in advance you can name it as second argument
[04:45] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:45] <asac> all patches that are listed before that patch in 00list will be applied too before you enter dpatch shell
[04:45] <gnomefreak> 10:44
[04:45] <asac> maybe read man dpatch-edit-patch
[04:46] <gnomefreak> this is taking longer than i would have though so i gave time so i know how longish it took
[04:56] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:/tmp/dpep-work.W27405/totem-2.17.91$ patch -p0 /home/gnomefreak/attachment.cgi\?id\=82498   should i have added /debian/patches to the end?
[04:56] <asac> patch -p0 < /home/gnomefreak/attachment.cgi\?id\=82498
[04:56] <asac> should do the trick
[04:57] <gnomefreak> ok much better i missed the <
[04:59] <gnomefreak> should i change ubuntu3 to ubuntu4?
[05:00] <asac> yes
[05:00] <asac> add comment that you added patch xxxx in order to fix lp #bugnumber
[05:00] <asac> but don't edit debian/ files in dpatch shell
[05:00] <gnomefreak> im not
[05:01] <asac> ok
[05:01] <asac> just upstream file changes are tracked that way
[05:09] <gnomefreak> ok changelog is done now i have to figure out how to grab build-dep (should i build this with dpkg-buildpackage?
[05:10] <asac> yes
[05:10] <asac> it will tell you what packages are needed
[05:11] <gnomefreak> it bothers me im the only one it fails for
[05:11] <asac> yeah ... maybe you miss universe/multiverse or some other repo=
[05:11] <asac> ?
[05:12] <gnomefreak> ill re check but seems i have them i thought but checking
[05:12] <gnomefreak> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted
[05:12] <gnomefreak> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe multiverse
[05:13] <asac> deb-src are not important
[05:13] <asac> deb ... are
[05:15] <gnomefreak> i have them too
[05:15] <gnomefreak> im gonan install them as control lists them and see what happens
[05:20] <gnomefreak> i know whats wrong just not sure how to fix it
[05:20] <gnomefreak> libnspr-dev libnss-dev are the issues
[05:22] <gnomefreak> its telling me i have wrong firefox version but i have ubuntu version
[05:24] <gnomefreak> libnspr-dev: Depends: libnspr4 (= 2:1.firefox<IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1) but 2:1.firefox<IP_ADDRESS>+1-1 is to be installed
[05:24] <gnomefreak> Installed: <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1 is my firefox version
[05:27] <asac> hmm
[05:27] <asac> was plain simple here
[05:28] <asac> you cannot install firefox-dev package?
[05:29] <asac> maybe start at square one again ... do an apt-get update; then apt-get build-dep totem ... then you should be able to build
[05:29] <gnomefreak> nope but give me a minute might have idea
[05:29] <asac> you have something messed up which i cannot see ... should be *really* straight forward
[05:31] <gnomefreak> E: Version 'firefox<IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1' for 'firefox-dev' was not found
[05:31] <gnomefreak> its not installable but its there
[05:31] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~$ policy firefox-dev
[05:31] <gnomefreak> firefox-dev:
[05:31] <gnomefreak>   Installed: (none)
[05:31] <gnomefreak>   Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1
[05:31] <gnomefreak>   Version table:
[05:31] <gnomefreak>      <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1 0
[05:31] <gnomefreak>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
[05:32] <gnomefreak> gonna try it from packages.ubuntu.com
[05:32] <asac> can't install it from there?
[05:32] <asac> at least its a candidate
[05:33] <gnomefreak> im trying right now
[05:37] <gnomefreak> no i cant becaise of libnss and others alike
[05:41] <asac> try to remove all firefox packages first ... guess you have <IP_ADDRESS>+1-1 installed ... which was a wrong version.
[05:41] <gnomefreak> libnss-dev: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2:1.firefox<IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1
[05:42] <gnomefreak> could it be the 2:1. giving issue?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> i already removed and purged firefox
[05:42] <gnomefreak> firefox: Installed: <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1
[05:44] <gnomefreak> E: Version '<IP_ADDRESS>+1-1' for 'firefox' was not found
[05:48] <asac> csn't tell then ... other that its messed up with you
[05:48] <asac> sorry
[05:48] <gnomefreak> i know how but damn
[05:49] <gnomefreak> what is the reinstall command
[05:49] <gnomefreak> apt-get install --reinstall?
[05:50] <asac> yes
[05:50] <asac> but probably won't help
[05:50] <asac> you have to run that on libnss3
[05:50] <asac> and libnspr
[05:50] <asac> + -dev packages
[05:52] <gnomefreak> fixingf it
[05:52] <gnomefreak> i had wrong versions of 2 packages
[05:53] <asac> good :)
[05:53] <asac> or not so good :-P
[05:53] <gnomefreak> well being fixed i hope :)
[05:54] <gnomefreak> ha i win
[05:54] <gnomefreak> brb
[06:02] <asac> lol
[06:02] <gnomefreak> its building
[06:03] <gnomefreak> its on make so it will be a while but ill let you know
[06:07] <asac> fine
[06:07] <asac> just let us know if the patches the issue
[06:12] <gnomefreak> is the version gonna stay the same?
[06:12] <gnomefreak> this way i can install it and not worry about this issue i had with ff with totem
[06:17] <asac> what?
[06:17] <asac> ah ... if the build is the same, then yes ... we can tell them that they should use ubuntu5 for the update as we named a testbuild ubuntu4
[06:17] <asac> so you get an upgrade anyway
[06:19] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[06:19] <gnomefreak> i just dont want to run into "wrong packages being installed" when upgrade
[06:23] <asac> no that won't happen
[06:23] <gnomefreak> k cool :
[06:23] <gnomefreak> )
[06:23] <gnomefreak> its done :)
[06:24] <asac> no crash?
[06:25] <gnomefreak> oh i dont know yet
[06:33] <gnomefreak> still crashes on that link
[06:34] <gnomefreak> closes not crashes
[06:34] <gnomefreak> ah hold that thought
[06:34] <asac> what? firefox still closes?
[06:34] <asac> you added the new dpatch file to 00list?
[06:35] <asac> please paste the content of the new dpatch file somehwere
[06:35] <gnomefreak> hold on a minute
[06:35] <gnomefreak> and yes i did
[06:37] <gnomefreak> ok site is open video is playing and i will leave it open while i go smoke and see what happens
[06:39] <asac> why was libtotem-plparser1 not installed automatically?
[06:39] <asac> was there at least a complaint about this when upgrading package?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> i used dpkg -i to install them
[06:42] <gnomefreak> the ubuntu4 build
[06:44] <gnomefreak> its fixed
[06:44] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:44] <gnomefreak> i upload to my site give you link you do what needs to be done?
[06:46] <gnomefreak> that should teach totem to mess with us :)
[06:47] <asac> ok
[06:47] <asac> i will review you diff ... and forward to seb
[06:47] <gnomefreak> k
[06:48] <asac> please set bug to mt-confirm
[06:48] <asac> and note where to find the fixed package
[06:48] <gnomefreak> k
[06:48] <asac> ty
[06:49] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:52] <gnomefreak> asac: like this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/86265
[06:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox crash [@totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin] " [Undecided,Confirmed]
[06:54] <gnomefreak> do we know of any dupes?
[06:58] <asac> not yet thorougly triaged ...  we need bughelper I guess to be sure
[06:58] <asac> at least for those that already have a proper stacktrace attached
[06:59] <AlexLatchford> Evening guys
[06:59] <asac> hi
[07:00] <AlexLatchford> lol you are killing my inbox asac
[07:00] <AlexLatchford> you to hjmf
[07:00] <asac> :)
[07:00] <asac> yeah ... did constant bug triage today ;)
[07:00] <asac> hope my karma gets a face lift tomorrow :)
[07:00] <asac> but will stop now ... cannot see bugs at least till wednesday anymore
[07:01] <AlexLatchford> fair enough
[07:01] <hjmf> hi lol
[07:01] <poningru> yarr
[07:01] <AlexLatchford> word.
[07:02] <asac> i extended wiki page about state by adding content for state "confirmed" further i did some minor updates to state "needinfo" ... maybe you want to read before meeting tonight
[07:02] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States
[07:02] <AlexLatchford> aha okay
[07:02] <asac> especiall description for Needs Info is new as well all in state confirmed
[07:02] <hjmf> asac: here is my daily question about tags
[07:03] <asac> hjmf: go ahead :)
[07:03] <hjmf>  if a retrace is done is there still a tag like mt-traced? not in the wiki
[07:03] <asac> read the content in wiki ... should be clearly documented now
[07:03] <hjmf> k
[07:04] <asac> now its right
[07:04] <asac> mt-confirm is now the tag to indicate that a bug might be ready to transition to next state
[07:04] <poningru> just wanted to ask what I added to the meeting agenda is ok
[07:05] <asac> have you added you name to your agenda point?
[07:05] <poningru> yes sir
[07:05] <asac> :)
[07:05] <poningru> err not the second one though
[07:05] <gnomefreak> its all uploaded asac http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Totem/ and its fixed
[07:06] <poningru> the one about speeding up security update
[07:06] <hjmf> once the retrace is done, we change to mt-needconfirm and then you decide?
[07:06] <hjmf> ?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> yep
[07:06] <asac> ok do so ... whatever you find worth discussion should be good for discussion
[07:06] <gnomefreak> hjmf: thats about right as i understand it
[07:06] <hjmf> gnomefreak: k
[07:06] <asac> yeah ... but please use mt-confirm (just changed it in wiki)
[07:06] <hjmf> asac: k
[07:07] <gnomefreak> goiing through the 10 bugs i have listed and seeing if same issue
[07:07] <asac> fine
[07:10] <gnomefreak> asac: they are marked as dupes of another bug should i add mine as a dupe since i have all the fixed info on it?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> or re mark them as dupes of my bug
[07:11] <asac> which bug are they marked as duplicate?
[07:11] <asac> is it the same issue?
[07:11] <asac> maybe it has been duped wrongly
[07:11] <gnomefreak> so far yes its bug 86265
[07:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox crash [@totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin] " [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86265
[07:11] <gnomefreak> i know bug 85427 is a dupe of mine for sure
[07:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85427 in firefox "[apport]  firefox crash [@totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin]  (dup-of: 86265)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85427
[07:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox crash [@totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin] " [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86265
[07:12] <gnomefreak> doh nvm
[07:12] <asac> so what is the quetsion now? Which should be the new master bug?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> yes
[07:13] <asac> tag bug 86265 if that is not a problem?
[07:13] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox crash [@totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin] " [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86265
[07:18] <asac> has someone still problems to install dom-inspector package on edgy?
[07:18] <gnomefreak> no other bug besides mine and the one duped as mine
[07:18] <gnomefreak> nope i dont
[07:19] <asac> k
[07:19] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: do you have bughelper
[07:25] <AlexLatchford> afraid not
[07:25] <AlexLatchford> havent had the time to investigate it yet
[07:26] <gnomefreak> me neither
[07:27] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[07:27] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/New_York: 19 Feb 16:30: Mozilla Team | 21 Feb 07:00: Edubuntu | 21 Feb 11:00: Kernel Team | 22 Feb 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Feb 12:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 25 Feb 12:00: LoCo Team
[07:27] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:29] <asac> @schedule hamburg
[07:29] <asac> so no idea about my city :)
[07:29] <asac> @schedule berlin
[07:29] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 19 Feb 22:30: Mozilla Team | 21 Feb 13:00: Edubuntu | 21 Feb 17:00: Kernel Team | 22 Feb 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Feb 18:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 25 Feb 18:00: LoCo Team
[07:30] <asac> k new firefox will be out in 3 days
[07:30] <asac> hope tbird too
[07:31] <asac> rc source is here
[07:31] <asac> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/<IP_ADDRESS>-candidates/rc4/firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>-source.tar.bz2
[07:32] <asac> gnomefreak: here is the tbird RC source
[07:32] <asac> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/<IP_ADDRESS>-candidates/rc1/thunderbird-<IP_ADDRESS>-source.tar.bz2
[07:32] <asac> you want to test if package still compiles or if I need to adapt some patches?
[07:37] <asac> (you don't need too ... just if you want to gain a bit more practice :))
[07:37] <asac> I will package this anyway :)
[07:40] <gnomefreak> i will later today im heading to lunch. ty
[07:43] <asac> ok .... just let me know if patches apply cleanly and if you see any regression, like enigmail package is broken, etc. thx
[07:43] <asac> ok guys ... cu at meeting in a few hours
[07:45] <asac> gnomefreak: can you please clarify why you have change bug title of Bug 85198
[07:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85198 in firefox "[Feisty]  FireFox crashes on trying to open http://www.wretch.cc/blog/cinphy" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85198
[07:46] <asac> from  when I drag some Icons , firefox crashed ... to [Feisty]  FireFox crashes on trying to open http://www.wretch.cc/blog/cinphy
[07:46] <asac> ?
[07:46] <asac> i mean i couldn't reproduce, but i never tested to drag icons on that page
[07:46] <asac> :)
[07:46] <asac> did you?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> i couldnt reproduce it and i didnt want 2 seperate issues on one bug
[07:54] <asac> k
[08:00] <asac> is it now marked as duplicate properly?
[08:06] <AlexLatchford> okay, im off for a bit, ill be back at about 22UTC
[08:08] <asac> bug 83118
[08:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83118 in firefox "Some components are non-free" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83118
[08:51] <asac> salty-horse: hi
[08:52] <salty-horse> hi everyone
[08:52] <asac> so how can I reproduce ?
[08:52] <asac> its about bug 82168
[08:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82168 in firefox "autoscroll shows the "resize up" cursor" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82168
[08:52] <salty-horse> ok, do you have the autoscroll feature enabled?
[08:52] <asac> salty-horse: yes
[08:53] <salty-horse> ok
[08:53] <asac> have enabled middlemouse.paste as well as middlemous.contentLoadURL
[08:53] <salty-horse> if you click the middle mouse button, and get that little circle, and hover over it with the mouse, what mouse cursor icon do you see?
[08:53] <salty-horse> my settings:
[08:53] <asac> a hand ... like move
[08:54] <salty-horse> middlemouse.contentLoadURL: false - middlemouse.paste: false
[08:54] <asac> yeah me too ... got that confused :)
[08:55] <asac> what desktop environment do you use?
[08:55] <salty-horse> GNOME
[08:55] <asac> what theme?
[08:55] <salty-horse> my edgy is a dapper upgrade - not a fresh install
[08:55] <salty-horse> regular one - haven't changed any theme
[08:55] <salty-horse> be it cursors or something else
[08:56] <salty-horse> and i do get the hand icon when dragging windows
[08:56] <asac> so which is selected if you open Theme Preference dialog?
[08:56] <salty-horse> Human
[08:56] <asac> ok
[08:57] <asac> hmmm ... maybe if you reselect that theme, this gets fixed?
[08:57] <asac> e.g. select something else, then select Human again?
[08:59] <salty-horse> 1) switched to industrial tango - firefox is taking 100% cpu :( sec
[08:59] <asac> oh yes ... it might crash :)
[08:59] <asac> when switching theme
[08:59] <asac> that is known
[09:00] <asac> for me it just stalls and consumes cpu for some time though.
[09:00] <salty-horse> cursor is still the "resize top" - going back to Human
[09:01] <asac>  ... have you tried a new firefox profile and see if the problem disappears?
[09:01] <asac> please backup your .mozilla directory first
[09:01] <salty-horse> on #developers @ irc.mozilla.org someone using ubuntu has experienced the same problem
[09:01] <salty-horse> trying a new profile
[09:03] <salty-horse> created a new profile, and set the autoscroll and middlemouse config. still the same cursor
[09:04] <asac> without that config?
[09:04] <asac> same?
[09:04] <salty-horse> without that config there is no autoscroll :)
[09:05] <salty-horse> (for a long time i didn't even know there was an autoscroll in the linux firefox)
[09:05] <asac> is that the default for you?
[09:05] <asac> for me mm.paste defaults to true and mm.contentLoadURL defaults to false
[09:06] <salty-horse> the autoscroll defaults to "false" on linux - because "paste" is more native
[09:06] <salty-horse> yes, here too
[09:06] <salty-horse> defaults are unchangable
[09:06] <asac> some defaults might be changeable in /etc/firefox dir?
[09:07] <salty-horse> i haven't touched those
[09:07] <asac> ok
[09:07] <salty-horse> note that the new profile i tested on has no extensions etc
[09:07] <asac> was just confused that you need to enable middlemous.paste
[09:07] <salty-horse> i needed to DISABLE it :)
[09:08] <asac> i don't need to do that
[09:10] <salty-horse> your default for middlemouse.paste is "disabled"?
[09:10] <asac> do you see the same in thunderbird?
[09:10] <asac> with all settings default?
[09:10] <asac> no ... its true, but it still works
[09:11] <salty-horse> i don't have autoscroll in thunderbird - i need to enable it
[09:11] <salty-horse> (it's off by default)
[09:11] <asac> what?
[09:11] <salty-horse> there is no autoscroll setting in thunderbird
[09:11] <asac> i did nothing afaik ... and its enabled. ... wait a sec.
[09:11] <asac> it works in message preview pane
[09:11] <salty-horse> OH
[09:11] <salty-horse> in the message preview, yse
[09:12] <salty-horse> oh, now it works both in tb and firefox
[09:12] <asac> crazy
[09:12] <asac> so you get a hand now?
[09:12] <salty-horse> i think the re-themeing changed it
[09:12] <salty-horse> yes
[09:12] <salty-horse> but i'll try tomorrow after a restart :)
[09:12] <asac> so you needed to reopen firefox afterwards?
[09:12] <salty-horse> or today if you're willing to wait
[09:12] <salty-horse> perhaps
[09:12] <salty-horse> not sure when it got fixed
[09:12] <asac> just post your results here ... and leave a message in the bug.
[09:13] <salty-horse> i'll update the bug with my findings
[09:13] <asac> great
[09:13] <asac> ty
[09:13] <salty-horse> (when i do the test cases)
[09:13] <salty-horse> n,ty!
[09:17] <salty-horse> aaaa! now it's back to the old cursor
[09:17] <salty-horse> and i didn't restart or anything
[09:18] <salty-horse> oh, it's specific to a certain tab
[09:23] <asac> what?
[09:23] <asac> to what tab?
[09:28] <salty-horse> i have about 30 tabs open (not usual - blame the feed reader), and i get the correct icon in 4 of them
[09:33] <asac> good can reproduce
[09:33] <asac> please post info to bug and fix description
[09:33] <salty-horse> trying after a restart
[09:33] <asac> we have to open good amout of tabs to trigger this bug
[09:34] <salty-horse> no.. i triggered it with just one tab
[09:34] <asac> open all tabs from planet debian worked for me ... I get complete random behaviour ... sometime the resize up icon, sometimes a finger ... et al ... some work well though
[09:35] <salty-horse> that's not the case in here
[09:35] <salty-horse> maybe i got less chaotic randomness :)
[09:35] <asac> maybe because I opened 60 tabs :) ... can you update the description to include this info on how to reproduce?
[09:36] <salty-horse> what arrow are you getting here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ask_a_ninja
[09:36] <asac> i guess it does not depend on the site, but something else what you see
[09:37] <salty-horse> and what cursor in here? http://www.prosody.co.uk/2007/02/19/carnival-of-video-game-bloggers/
[09:37] <asac> i get good cursor if i don't use many tabs
[09:37] <salty-horse> in wp i get the hand move cursor, in prosody i get the resize one
[09:38] <asac> its completely random
[09:38] <asac> now i get good cursor at both patges
[09:38] <asac> but bad ones in others
[09:38] <salty-horse> hmm
[09:38] <salty-horse> do you think you also get that randomness when opening just one tab?
[09:39] <asac> just update the info ... that should be enough infos for us to deal with this for now.
[09:39] <salty-horse> ok
[09:39] <salty-horse> updating
[09:39] <asac> if we need something, I will ping you :)
[09:39] <asac> thanks alot for coming here
[09:46] <salty-horse> submitted
[09:46] <salty-horse> can you update the status please?
[09:55] <asac> ok ... i updated the general description as well
[09:56] <asac> next run i process all that wait for state confirm, this bug will be confirmed and then investigated :)
[09:57] <salty-horse> and moved to bugzilla@mozilla if necessary?
[09:57] <asac> at state confirmed i will post some instructions what to do to get this closer to resolvation
[09:57] <asac> if we can verify that this is an upstream issue, we will communicate it to their bug-tracker and work with them, yes.
[09:58] <salty-horse> great
[09:58] <salty-horse> thanks!
[09:58] <asac> if you see that i drop instructions and think you can contribute feel free to do so :) ... otherwise some team member
[09:58] <asac> will take over when time slot permits :)
[09:59] <salty-horse> ok. i'll follow the bug by email
[09:59] <asac> fine.
[10:18] <gnomefreak> poningru: @schedule now works in here
[10:18] <poningru> woah awesome
[10:18] <poningru> did not know that
[10:19] <poningru> just got back from class
[10:19] <gnomefreak> i had it set up today
[10:19] <poningru> I thought it was at 1530
[10:19] <gnomefreak> nope
[10:19] <poningru> brb let me grab lunch
[10:19] <gnomefreak> 10 minutes
[10:23] <gnomefreak> asac: thunderbird <IP_ADDRESS>rc? arnt the <IP_ADDRESS> already been relesed?
[10:25] <asac> oh yeah :)
[10:25] <asac> sorry
[10:25] <asac> probaly not yet updated then
[10:26] <gnomefreak> ill work on firefox maybe after dinner since meeting will run into dinner most likely
[10:27] <gnomefreak> poningru: btw when you add agenda point please add your name
[10:28] <poningru> sorry
[10:28] <poningru> but I thought maybe asac would want to do that one
[10:28] <asac> poningru: which?
[10:28] <poningru> asac: faster security updates
[10:29] <asac> lets start?
[10:30] <poningru> ready
[10:30] <poningru> in -meeting right?
[10:30] <asac> j
[10:31] <asac> y
[10:31] <poningru> blargh?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: you around?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> asac: did you get a chance to review the diff?
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: now I am. won't be for long
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> just checking my computer very quickly
[10:47] <poningru> hurry
[10:47] <gnomefreak> i forgot you werent gonna be here
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: you are free :)
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: not really, just came back to get some supplies
[11:51] <gnomefreak> poningru: how versed are you in packaging?
[11:52] <poningru> not well
[11:53] <poningru> I thought about just get --source firefox
[11:53] <poningru> patching the orig
[11:53] <poningru> from diffs of <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:53] <poningru> bugs
[11:53] <poningru> and just rebuilding that
[11:54] <gnomefreak> poningru: ok if i were you get with asac with packaging for now. im still learning but its a bit hard when you have new upstream tar
[11:54] <gnomefreak> patches dont apply and shit like that.
[11:54] <poningru> ah
[11:54] <gnomefreak> been fighting with it
[11:54] <gnomefreak> after 8 hours i got totem built :(
[11:55] <poningru> fight away my friend
[11:55] <gnomefreak> i will try to have tb 2.0 for tomorrow on my site
[11:55] <poningru> awesome
[11:55] <gnomefreak> see how far i can get with it tonight
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ok will return later
[11:57] <poningru> ttyl
[11:57] <poningru> wait what?
[11:57] <poningru> what does that mean?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> what mena?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> mean*
[11:58] <poningru> if you are eating tonight
[11:58] <poningru> dont tell me you are like my roommate
[11:59] <poningru> speaking of which brb
[12:00] <gnomefreak> not sure time im gonna eat tonight thats all


[00:35] <cool_skeleton_95> Is there any way to update libreoffice to the newest version on Lubuntu 20.04
[00:41] <Maik> cool_skeleton_95: probably through a PPA, installing the snap version or by downloading the deb files
[00:42] <cool_skeleton_95> should i be downloading all my programs via snap?
[00:42] <wxl> i would avoid snaps whenever possible
[00:42] <Maik> PPA and deb aren't the recommended way though and not supported if anything goes wrong because it's from outside the official ubuntu repo's
[00:42] <wxl> they have a high overhead cost
[00:42] <wxl> also they don't provide 7.0.3 on any channel
[00:43] <Maik> cool_skeleton_95: everythime someone asks how to get a newer version of a program i advice them to go rolling release
[00:43] <cool_skeleton_95> ok, thanks!
[00:43] <wxl> the PPA does but you should consider them generally unsupported https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-7-0
[00:43] <wxl> Maik: and how do you propose someone go rolling release on a distro that's not a rolling release?
[00:44] <Maik> cool_skeleton_95: having the newest and the latest alway doesn't mean it's better
 flatpak is an option here I guess. 7.0.3 is on flathub.
[00:46] <wxl> of course keeping flatpaks updated is kind of a thing
[00:47] <Maik> wxl: with that i mean they should switch to a rolling release then, maybe not the best way but they'll at least have the latest and greatest. And if they don't want to they'll have to live with the fact that ubuntu and it's flavors ship with older software packages. :)
 true. Discover can help you with that though.
[00:48] <wxl> Maik: i don't think that just because someone wants a particular piece of software to be a newer version that it necessarily implies they want to deal with the trauma of having an entire system running on bleeding edge software
[00:50] <cool_skeleton_95> thanks for the help!
[00:50] <Maik> yw
[00:53]  * Maik heads back to his Ubuntu Mate Pi 4 install
[00:57] <camilo> hola
[01:05] <cool_skeleton_95> hola
[01:52] <cool_skeleton_95> is there anyway to know what programs are running in the background?  I don't mean things that are run by the OS, but applications that run in the background
[02:23] <Maik> cool_skeleton_95: if there any apps running in the background you should see them in the Task Manager, system monitor or whatever lubuntu has installed by default.
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[20:34] <KGIII> Thanks, bot. I'm going through the apps one by one. So far, so good. Ho hum...
[20:37] <kc2bez> KGIII: That was @Leokolb from the telegram side. lubot is the bridge. You can join us in #lubuntu-devel for any Lubuntu specific Hirsute issues above what tomreyn suggested.
[20:38] <KGIII> Alright, I was merely making chatter as I go through. I'm in the OS now, so I'll make a note of the other channel.
[20:39] <kc2bez> Sounds good, thanks.
[23:09] <quser2020> Hi. Anyone can help with lubuntu 18 upgrade?


  :P
[21:05] <IdleOne> I am not the one recommending low fat, low sodium bacon
[21:05] <Resistance> :P
[21:05] <Resistance> now that is blasphemy
[21:05] <Resistance> WHO IS THIS PERSON WHO RECOMMENDED LOW FAT NO SODIUM BACON?!?!?
[23:47] <InHisName> Resistance: its his doctor,  of course his doctor can't make $$$ if he drops dead of a heart attack.  He can make MUCH more if he lives 50+ more years.


[17:48] <kristofor> hi all, can somebody tell me how I would go about running a bash script as a specific user in upstart?
[17:54] <sadmac2> kristofor: su
[19:39] <Terces> I just created an upstart task in the /etc/event.d directory, but when I "sudo start taskname" it says "start: Unknown job:". A google search for "upstart start: Unknown job:" didn't turn up anything useful. Can anyone suggest how I would go about finding my problem (are there error logs, etc.)?
[19:40] <ion> It’s /etc/init, unless you’re running very old software.
[19:40] <ion> Parse errors are logged to syslog.
[19:40] <Terces> oh, thanks.
[19:41] <Terces> trying to fix it now.
[19:41] <Terces> that was it/
[19:42] <Terces> I was using documentation I found online that must have been outdated.
[19:42] <ion> man 5 init is a good starting point.
[19:43] <Terces> thanks ion


[22:49] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: just in case... after following all of those steps and before rebooting... download this http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/R600_rlc.bin and move it to /lib/firmware/radeon
[22:49] <Mace268> does linux support the i7 turbo settings or just the base frequency?
[22:49] <vanishing> Mace268: it supports turbo
[22:49] <Assimilater> vanishing: I wasn't sure what to make of that because i have 10 GB on this HD and it's mostly free
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> Assimilater: your /boot is using a seperate partition and that's full :)
[22:50] <chare> what happens if i reinstall ubuntu on the old ubuntu partition by using the advanced options during installation, can I just select the old partition or do I need to format that partition to get a true clean reinstall
[22:50] <Assimilater> hitsujiTMO: k1l: google found me this answer does it seem right? sudo apt-get purge $( dpkg --list | grep -P -o "linux-image-\d\S+" | grep -v $(uname -r | grep -P -o ".+\d") )
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> no!
[22:50] <vanishing> Assimilater: well..your df shows
[22:50] <vanishing> /dev/sda1                  228M  226M     0 100% /boot
[22:50] <cw>  سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ
[22:50] <cw> love it
[22:50] <k1l> Assimilater: i prefer the manual way
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> you do not want delete your current kernel
[22:51] <Plasmastar> That's naught cw
[22:51] <Plasmastar> naughty*
[22:51] <Assimilater> vanishing: now I understand what that means :)
[22:52] <Mace268> vanishing, I tried with speed step on and off and everything still says it's not going into turbo. any other ideas on how to verify this?
[22:52] <moppy> what is the channel for ubu touch please?
[22:53] <Assimilater> k1l: manual meaning? (I have a guess but want to make sure) deleting every directory in /boot except those with the highest version number?
[22:53] <challach_> ubuntu-touch
[22:53] <kureno> moppy: #ubuntu-touch
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> Assimilater: whats is the output of: uname -r      and: dpkg --get-selections | grep "linux-image"
[22:53] <vanishing> Mace268: ‡ grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[22:53] <vanishing> cpu MHz         : 2501.000
[22:53] <vanishing> :D
[22:53] <k1l> Assimilater: no. remove the single packages that include tha old kernels
[22:53] <moppy> kureno: ty
 Assimilater: remove the "linux-image...." packages of that old kernels.
[22:54] <TheLordOfTime> Wubi is still not supported for 13.04 and later, right?
[22:54] <Assimilater> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/j4023ZHd
[22:54] <Mace268> vanishing, that always says 3400.100 no matter what, even under a full 8 thread prime95 load
[22:54] <vanishing> Assimilater: check uname -a first, make sure you DON'T remove the one showing in it
[22:54] <Mace268> it should jump to 3800 under load
[22:55] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: oh and make sure you arne't using any proprietary drivers.... like wifi proprietary driver. you can check software-sources and go to the 'Additional Drivers' tab and if you see 0 proprietary drivers in use then you're good to go
[22:56] <mlbj> hey guys, what's up
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> Assimilater: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic linux-image-3.5.0-27-generic linux-image-3.5.0-28-generic linux-image-3.5.0-30-generic linux-image-3.5.0-31-generic linux-image-3.5.0-32-generic linux-image-3.5.0-34-generic
[22:56] <vanishing> Mace268: The frequency shown in /proc/cpuinfo is often capped at the "normal" CPU speed when in fact turbo boost is working fine.
[22:57] <Assimilater> hitsujiTMO: ah, I see, thanks
[22:57] <Mace268> vanishing, I just came upon i7z, i'll give that a try
[22:57] <Mace268> thanks for your help
[22:57] <DenSaakalte> So I noticed two things after updating to 13.10: first of all, my Intel Graphics card now shows up in the About section as «Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.3, 128 bits)», and the Disk now says 0 bytes. This wasn't like that before installing it and I'm sure it's what's causing my lag problem. How could I fix it?
[22:57] <cm-t> !paste cm-t
[22:58] <vanishing> np
[22:58] <vap1> Greetings all. I need to connect my printer to the ethernet port on the back of my computer. Its a Brother DCP-7065DN. Anyone have info on that
[22:59] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, It took me a bit to find it, but software sources tells me 0 proprietary drivers are in use.
[22:59] <vanishing> Mace268: also you can check powertop
[22:59] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: nice
[22:59] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: let me know before you reboot after following those instructions
[22:59] <vanishing> Mace268: should be in repo, and its pretty straight forward
[22:59] <Mace268> ok thanks i'll try that
[23:00] <cm-t> Hi, I am trying to open gnome-control-center on the activity-log-manager subpanel, it is working. Is it possible to select the tab to focus? like search tab
[23:00] <cm-t> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6253793/
[23:00] <cm-t> (python)
[23:01] <netm> Anybody out there who could help me with an Ubuntu install question? I have a laptop with 13.04 on the HD and have just installed 13.10 on an ssd in the laptop, but can't boot to it..
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> cm-t #ubuntu-app-devel might be a more suitable channel for such a question
[23:02] <guest-AhYDCS> netm, where did you install grub when install 13.10?
[23:03] <netm> I'm pretty sure on the SSD
[23:03] <cm-t> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[23:03] <guest-AhYDCS> netm, them, did you set your BIOS to boot from ssd first?
[23:03] <netm> Yep it's first on the list
[23:04] <cm-t> Hi, i am trying to open gnome/part
[23:04] <cm-t> ops
[23:05] <netm> But when I go into BIOS, select the SSD and hit enter it doesn't boot to it - nothing much happens
[23:05] <guest-AhYDCS> netm, hmm, does the grub menu show?
[23:05] <diskawrs> Hi. Can someone tell me how I can force apt-get to install gufw_13.10.0-0ubuntu2 on precises?
[23:06] <chare> wtf nice job guys I tried create a btrfs partition during installion and got a filesystem creation failed error
[23:06] <chare> NICE JOB GUYS
[23:06] <netm> Grub menu only shows when I boot to the HD, maybe I don't have grub on the SSD...anyway I could test that (I can see the SSD from my 13.04 install)
[23:07] <Dawid> witam serdecznie jestem nowym urzytkownikiem i mam pytanie odnośnie linuxa ubuntu 12.04 mam pewien problem
[23:07] <vanishing> chare: don't be mad please, calm down
[23:08] <chare> wtf do I do
[23:08] <chare> why isn't the installation working
[23:08] <vanishing> don't curse for starters
[23:08] <guest-AhYDCS> netm, I think you should try install grub on hdd, and boot from it, some laptop don't support booting from ssd.
[23:08] <Guest83460> hi, need help copying folder into 'icons'. Do not have permission to do so
[23:08] <DenSaakalte> So... Any ideas to solve this? I'm getting Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.3, 128 bits) instead of the Intel Graphics card after upgrading to Ubuntu 13.10
[23:08] <netm> guest-AhYDCS - thanks - what would then happen if I took my HD out (or it failed) ?
[23:09] <Dawid> o tóż chce zainstalować program GrADS 2.0.2 jak wpisuje komendę w kosoli sudo cp grads to pokazuje błąd [sudo] error pasword Dawid
[23:10] <karab44> I just reverted upgrade. I don't see any mouse cpu issue on 13.04.
[23:10] <chare> I get exactly this error except with btrfs http://askubuntu.com/questions/205132/ubuntu-12-10-failed-to-create-a-file-system-error
[23:10] <Ari-Yang> !pl
[23:10] <Ari-Yang> !pl | Dawid
[23:10] <Guest83460> Hi, I'm trying to unzip a folder in 'usr/share/icons/' but permission is denied. How can I do this?
[23:10] <guest-AhYDCS> netm, I'm not sure, I don't have a ssd :(
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> netm http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1525202
[23:11] <wylde> !sudo | Guest83460
[23:12] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, oddly enough, gksudo gedit is returning 0 responses. Xubuntu doesn't have gedit by default, does it?
[23:12] <Guest83460> thanks wylde !
[23:12] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: then use a different text editor
[23:12] <Ari-Yang> :|
[23:12] <darkangel> Who ever wants a super FAST Download of Ubuntu 13.10 (64-Bit) download the Torrent here          releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[23:12] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: gksudo your-text-editor-here /etc/default/grub
[23:13] <vap1> is it possible at all to install a network printer?
[23:13] <darkangel> Who ever wants a super FAST Download of Ubuntu 13.10 (32-Bit) download the Torrent here         releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[23:13] <Ari-Yang> darkangel: 'k, we get it
[23:13] <Ari-Yang> :|
 thanks - I'll try it out...
[23:15] <moppy> zeifer: not sure i remember but i *think* it has leafpad
[23:15] <sam113101> well
[23:15] <sam113101> this new release is shit
[23:15] <moppy> all linuxes have vim though, it's part of posix spec
[23:15] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, I found mousepad on the accessories list. Been a long while since I used Xubuntu.
[23:16] <Ari-Yang> k
[23:16] <jpedroza2k> moppy, they all have vi, vim not always.
[23:16] <dubone> Hello All, I have a vm running Ubuntu from Ubuntu and it has been running fine for months until last night I rebooted the vm and it is now stuck on "Boot from (hd0,0) ext4 - Starting up ... Here is my libvirt.log http://pastebin.com/EfpxKaLr -- Host is Ubuntu 13.04 and Guest is Ubuntu 12.04. Can I have some tips on troubleshooting this? I have extended my personal resources, documentations is light on this situation. I appreciate it.
[23:17] <subcool> Could someone assist me with my thermaltake BlacX external Sata HDD dock? - lsusb shows it, but the usb notifier does not pop up with anything. Do i have to manually mount it?
[23:18] <subcool> the drive does not show in my device manager..
[23:18] <subcool> i mean file manager
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> subcool: whats output of lsblk
[23:19] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6253910/
[23:19] <subcool> hitsujiTMO, ^^^
[23:20] <zeifer> Ack! What was the command line for adding ppa's?
[23:20] <faugusztin> subcool: how big is that external drive ?
[23:20] <bindi> zeifer: add-apt-repository
[23:20] <bindi> or apt-add-repository
[23:20] <zeifer> Thank you, bindi.
[23:20] <subcool> 160gb
[23:21] <subcool> i suppose that would be sdf1?
[23:21] <faugusztin> subcool: then it is /dev/sdf1
[23:21] <subcool> ok- so i have to manually mount it?
[23:21] <faugusztin> subcool: you could try to mount it somehwere manually
[23:21] <faugusztin> subcool: probably :)
[23:21] <subcool> ok, ill give it a whirl.. thanks.
[23:21] <Wug> hitsujiTMO: I don't suppose you're still around?
[23:21] <dubone> anyone have any troubleshooting tips for me? Trying to get a kvm guest up and running again :)
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> subcool: sudo mkdir /mnt/funkydisk && sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/funkydisk
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> i just might be wug
[23:22] <grimeton> funky
[23:22] <sleepee> whats up guys.  has anybody else using 13.10 had super dim screen issues at startup?
[23:23] <subcool> sob- ok.. um..
[23:23] <subcool> mount: unknown filesystem type 'zfs_member'
[23:23] <Wug> :D anyway, how exactly do I get to system settings
[23:23] <subcool> i am mounting the entire drive to do a backup recovery of information lost when i accidently install PCBSD on it
[23:23] <dubone> I found a couple bugs that have the same libvirt errors as me - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1157626
[23:23] <Wug> it's not in the unity bar, and I can't search for anything :|
[23:23] <compdoc> dubone, whats the issue?
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> subcool: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[23:24] <subcool> i know what ZFS is
[23:25] <dubone> hitsujiTMO: My Ubuntu kvm guest is stuck at Boot from (hd0,0) ext4 - Starting up ... It ran fine for months. Here is my libvirt.log http://pastebin.com/EfpxKaLr
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> you need to install support for it, theres a link to a ppa for it
[23:25] <dubone> sorry, that was for compdoc
[23:25] <dubone> compdoc: My Ubuntu kvm guest is stuck at Boot from (hd0,0) ext4 - Starting up ... It ran fine for months. Here is my libvirt.log http://pastebin.com/EfpxKaLr
[23:25] <subcool> hitsujiTMO, ok- thanks. i see it now. Im use to being told that ZFS isnt supported, .
[23:25] <darkangel> Ari-Yang: sorry to annoy ya just getting the pressure and flood off the ubuntu servers at least trying
[23:25] <Ari-Yang> k
[23:26] <SunTsu> subcool: OpenZFS changes that
[23:27] <chsados> can anyone recommend a really study/solid thumb drive that I can install linux to to use as a full blown os (not live os)
[23:27] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, launchpad.net is failing to update. Any possible errors in the URL?
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> Wug: hit <ctrl> + <alt> + T    and run gnome-control-center
[23:28] <subcool> SunTsu, is OpenZFS the same as ubuntu zfs?
[23:28] <Stanley00> Anyone upgrade to 13.10? I got trouble with unity hiding, I have intel videocard, and got this http://imgur.com/BwkGvqL when unity hide.
[23:28] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: what do you mean? and copy and paste the exact command you typed out to add the ppa
[23:28] <subcool> Stanley00, yes, and i downgraded back to 12.04
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> chsados: just look for something with a decent brandname and decent read/write speeds
[23:29] <chsados> ok
[23:29] <subcool> Ok- witht hat in hand, (thank you guys), after mounting this "drive" will i still be able to do a data recovery?
[23:29] <Wug> hitsujiTMO: disabled web search, no change.  no results ever display, no disk activity
[23:29] <Wug> he's dead jim.
[23:29] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: just hit the up arrow key, that should show you the latest command you ran in the terminal...
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> wug: maybe report the bug
[23:29] <compdoc> dubone, is the vm's file stored in:  /sys/fs/cgroup/devices/libvirt/qemu/zooapps
[23:30] <SunTsu> subcool: OpenZFS is a project that merges all current ZFS development branches - ZFS on Linux, FreeBSD, Ilumos/OpenSolaris and such
[23:31] <dubone> compdoc: pasted private ls -al /sys/fs/cgroup/devices/libvirt/qemu/zooapps
[23:31] <Wug> I am going to try removing and reinstalling all unity packages
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> chsados: lookup corsair voyager gt or gs range for an example
[23:32] <zeifer> sudo apt-add-repository https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[23:32] <SunTsu> subcool: those package slook like they are pre-OpenZFS, though
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> wug use install --reinstall
[23:33] <chsados> hitsujiTMO: im thinking maybe a sd card would be more reliable with a usb adapter like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820283018
[23:33] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, sudo apt-add-repository https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/ is what I used and had fail.
[23:34] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: actually go to the link and get the ppa address.... which would be ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers so sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[23:34] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: run sudo apt-add-repository --remove https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[23:34] <Ari-Yang> then run the command I just said: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[23:34] <Ari-Yang> then after run apt-get update and move on with the instructions, zeifer
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> chsados: your not going to get the same write speeds. also sd isn't suitable for large amounts of read/writes like you get with an os.    i also recommend adding noatime flag to the partitions when you're seeting them up
[23:36] <chsados> hmm ok
[23:36] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, thank you for clarifying that line. It worked this time.
[23:36] <Ari-Yang> kk
[23:36] <kxtwo> can some one tell me why when I do ipcs I get a long list of memory segments despite not having anything running in code?
[23:38] <kxtwo> they are all keyless so I am assuming they are OS related
[23:38] <zeifer> I have to wait on the dist-upgrade command while a couple buddies are in an LoL match.
[23:38] <kxtwo> but my server doesnt have them so Im confused
[23:39] <vap1> Anyone have an idea how I can connect my printer to my computer via ethernet
[23:41] <Malinux> vap1: is i a network-printer?
[23:41] <Malinux> *is it
[23:41] <vap1> malinux: yea only thru ethernet.
[23:41] <Malinux> vap1: then I think you can connect it directly to a router or a network hub?
[23:42] <vap1> Malinux: yea I can do that, but the router is not near me. I have a job I need to do that requires my printer/scanner to be near my computer.
[23:42] <subcool> SunTsu, i just followed openzfs, and it brought me back around to this ubuntu-zfs
[23:42] <fishscene> vap1: Unless you have a print server to manage security, I don't recommend opening up ports on your router to forward to your printer.
[23:43] <SunTsu> subcool: yeah, zfs on linux is what later will get to be part of OpenZFS
[23:43] <Malinux> vap1: okey. I don't know then
[23:43] <vap1> fishscene: I want to connect it to the ethernet port on my computer..not through the router
[23:43] <subcool> SunTsu, ? what? - No i googled openzfs - and while following the links on the page to install it- it brought me to ubuntu-zfs
[23:44] <subcool> SunTsu, i have to reboot, brb
[23:44] <fishscene> ah-sorry. I've been staring at my screen too long. I read it as "internet", not Ethernet.
[23:44] <maletor> what is the ubuntu equivilant os OS X's FileVault?
[23:45] <SunTsu> vap1: just connect it, if it is GigE it should do AutoMDI, run a dhcpd on the nic and there you go
[23:45] <fishscene> vap1: You'll need to use a crossover cable to connect it directly to your computer's ethernet port. And then you'll want to print out a diagnostics page to see the IP address it has. Then you can connect to it like any other network printer.
[23:45] <subcool> SunTsu, still installing updates, so if there is anything else you would like to add
[23:45] <SunTsu> vap1: if it's not GigE then you need a cross cable to connect it, the rest stays the same
[23:46] <SunTsu> subcool: http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Distributions#ZFS_on_Linux
[23:46] <vap1> alright. how can I tell if my ethernet cable is a crossover or not
[23:46] <SunTsu> vap1: look at the plugs, if the colors are in the same order it's not
[23:47] <fishscene> Hold the cable-ends together upside-down right next to each other. If they don't match, it's a crossover.
[23:47] <SunTsu> vap1: if the colors are in a different order chances are it's crossover
[23:47] <subcool> SunTsu, right, which brings you to zfsonline.org, when you lcick the ubuntu link it brings you to the ubuntu-zfs
[23:48] <mdkwlan> Anyone running 13.10 here (kinda poinless question.)
[23:48] <ADP4U> no
[23:48] <SunTsu> subcool: as I said: zfs on linux is going to be part of OpenZFS in the near future
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone < mdkwlan
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | mdkwlan
[23:48] <ADP4U> Didn't think you were anyway
[23:49] <mdkwlan> MY bad.
[23:49] <ADP4U> Your bad with what?
[23:49] <jpedroza2k> Wanted to update anyone that might be having an issue with three monitors on a Lenovo laptop. I had to compile the nightly build from Intel to get three monitors working again.
[23:49] <jpedroza2k> The kernel that is.
[23:50] <mdkwlan> I'm having a problem coming out of the lock screen. When I log back in unity command window is open. Anyone else having this happen.
[23:50] <ADP4U> You are having a problem coming out of the closet?
[23:50] <mdkwlan> Clearly
[23:50] <codephobic> hi
[23:51] <fedeisas> hi guys
[23:51] <ADP4U> hi
[23:51] <fedeisas> anyone saavy with setfacl willing to help me? Thanks
[23:51] <maletor> What do people do for disk encryption on Ubuntu?
[23:51] <ADP4U> no
[23:51] <codephobic> I've just upgraded to 13.10 and, surprisingly, everything has worked... more or less.
[23:51] <ADP4U> good for you homophobic
[23:51] <fedeisas> ADP4U well, not really setfacl, just permissions in general
[23:51] <codephobic> the one issue I have, I cannot figure out how to resolve
[23:52] <codephobic> ADP4U, not that there's anything wrong with that but ... codephobic.
[23:52] <sam113101> I upgraded to 13.10 and, surprisingly, it's buggier than 13.04
[23:52] <codephobic> the problem I'm having is that apache2 no longer seems to recognise any of my virtualhosts
[23:52] <ADP4U> can someone direct me to a howto on how to use a keyboard?
[23:53] <mdkwlan> sam113101: are you having any problems with the lock screen?
[23:53] <sam113101> mdkwlan: let me try
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> enough ADP4U
[23:53] <ADP4U> ok
[23:53] <sam113101> well…
[23:54] <sam113101> don't leave
[23:54] <sam113101> if you want an answer
[23:54] <sam113101> ;_;
[23:54] <sam113101> mdkwlan: it's a bit slow but it works as expected
[23:54] <fedeisas> hey codephobic, I can help with Apache
[23:54] <ultim8>  .
[23:54] <mdkwlan> I get this weird error when I come back in that the unity is open.
[23:54] <codephobic> hi fedeisas, thanks would appreciate some help
[23:55] <fedeisas> tell e
[23:55] <stewart_> Good Evening all, just wondering if any has tackled openfire certificate imports ??
[23:55] <codephobic> my virtualhost configs were working fine in 13.04 and work fine in debian and 12.04 LTS Server.
[23:56] <codephobic> not sure what's changed in the upgrade, that would affect this.
[23:56] <codephobic> mysql is working, php is working, but apache keeps serving the default page, rather than any of the virtualhost sites I configured for this machine.
[23:57] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[23:57] <fedeisas> mmm
[23:57] <fedeisas> there could be many things
[23:57] <fedeisas> go to /var/logs/apache2/
[23:58] <fedeisas> and tail -f access.log and error.log
[23:58] <fedeisas> hit refresh and try to see if there are some errors
[23:58] <stewart_> any thoughts on on you need to provide  Certificate Authority Reply ? is cer, pfx , csr and key file don't work hmmm?
[23:58] <codephobic> ok, will check now
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: have you strayed much from the default config od apache2? do you use /etc/apache2/sites-available ?