[00:00] <Whisket> lsb_release shows 14.04.5 as well
[00:02] <t3kg33k> Greetings all
[00:03] <t3kg33k> I'm looking for a php expert. I've install php 5.6 on Ubuntu 16.04. Is there a way to confirm if mbregex is enabled? And, if it is not, how do I enable it?
[00:10] <transhuman> hi! is pacmanfan around?
[00:13] <Bashing-om> transhuman: Enter into your client pacman<tab> ; if it autocompletes, yes the party is on-line - else not .
[00:17] <transhuman> actually I figured he might have changed his handle
[00:18] <iCherry> t3kg33k, make sure you have installed the mbsting module (i believe mbregex is part of it), $ sudo apt-get install php-mbstring
[00:18] <transhuman> perhaps it might now be pacbard
[00:19] <t3kg33k> iCherry I did install that module. So, mbregex is enabled by default when that module is installed?
[00:19] <iCherry> t3kg33k, are you running this within a webserver like apache, or cli?
[00:19] <t3kg33k> yes, apache
[00:20] <iCherry> did you also install the apache php lib?
[00:21] <iCherry> $ sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php
[00:21] <t3kg33k> I don't think so. I installed apache, then installed php 5.6 with modules
[00:22] <iCherry> libapache2-mod-php has the mbstring module built in
[00:22] <t3kg33k> it looks as if I did install it
[00:23] <iCherry> you can test if php works by doing the following:
[00:23] <t3kg33k> iCherry, thanks a lot
[00:23] <iCherry> echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" > /var/www/html/index.php
[00:23] <t3kg33k> I created a phpinfo file and it shows all the information
[00:23] <t3kg33k> yep
[00:23] <iCherry> that is the default document root for apache
[00:24] <t3kg33k> I see the mbstring module, I just couldn't see the mbregex
[00:24] <iCherry> mbregex is part of mbstring
[00:24] <iCherry> you could also try this:
[00:25] <iCherry> <?php if (extension_loaded('mbstring')) { echo "loaded"; }else{echo "not loaded"} ?>
[00:26] <t3kg33k> iCherry From command line? Or, do I just add that to the php info file?
[00:26] <iCherry> add it to a .php file
[00:27] <iCherry> then go to the website and check if it works
[00:30] <t3kg33k> iCherry the page does not load from that new file
[00:31] <iCherry> oh sorry, my bad, try this:
[00:31] <iCherry> <?php if (extension_loaded('mbstring')) { echo "loaded"; }else{echo "not loaded";} ?>
[00:32] <t3kg33k> iCherry That worked. Thanks. Output is 'loaded'
[00:33] <iCherry> t3kg33k, no problem
[01:06] <arooni> every now and then after 20 min or so; my ubuntu 16.04 laptop drops my bluetooth connection to my headphones and i have to reconnect
[01:06] <arooni> is this a known problem/
[01:10] <apn> arooni, sounds like a power saving feature is causing it.
[01:12] <eremita> helo I'm having trouble with my wifi. It's a ralink board. Anyone can telme a good wifi board that works fine in ubuntu?
[01:12] <eremita> i'm using ubuntu 16.04
[01:14] <apn> eremita, generally, anything with intel is well supported in Linux. Most of Atheros as well. Here is the support status for different ones: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers
[01:15] <eremita> apn: thanks
[01:22] <arooni> apn: way to disable that?
[01:28] <apn> arooni, kind of. You will have to find out if it's bluetooth device, or port (like USB for instance) power management that does it. Then you can go to /sys to check power setting (/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:00.0/power for instance) and change it from auto to on.
[01:28] <apn> arooni, or you can use a tool like powertop to see if it can see it in tweaks.
[01:37] <DWSR> Hey all, where can I get information on the preseed file syntax and possible options?
[01:37] <DWSR> !preseed
[01:42] <glitsj16> DWSR: hi, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/s390x/apb.html might help
[01:44] <DWSR> glitsj16: That's helpful, thank you
[01:45] <glitsj16> DWSR: you're welcome, had it in my bookmarks
[02:36] <nathani> what causes this error when restarting a network device: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[02:37] <kenrin> Don't use multiple default gateways
[02:39] <kenrin> If you need to use a secondary gateway use a static route and you won't get that error.  Make sure only one is in the interfaces file
[02:42] <nathani> https://gist.github.com/mnathani/b2c682a497406cd765b068134263468a
[02:42] <nathani> thats my /etc/network/interfaces
[02:43] <kenrin> Ah ok,  that is just the most common reason for it.  Possibly the interface can't be stopped when it does the restart for some reason
[02:44] <kenrin> If it detects it already up it will give that error as duplicate
[02:45] <Geo> ok, silly question... is there a simple calculator GUI I can install in ubuntu? similar to the microsoft one, I just type calc in the command box and it pops up, nothing fancy...
[02:45] <nathani> root@water:~# ifdown ens160 && ifup ens160
[02:45] <nathani> ifdown: interface ens160 not configured
[02:45] <nathani> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[02:45] <nathani> Failed to bring up ens160.
[02:46] <nathani> so, I should reboot?
[02:47] <kenrin> Does it give the same error when you use the new IP tool ?
[02:47] <kenrin> the nettools will be deprecated eventually
[02:47] <nathani> what new IP tool?
[02:47] <kenrin> ip
[02:47] <kenrin> as in: ip link set dev ens160 down
[02:47] <nathani> whats a sample command
[02:47] <nathani> ip link set dev ens160 down && ip link set dev ens160 up
[02:47] <nathani> like that?
[02:47] <kenrin> ya
[03:45] <ghostinzshell> What does Ubuntu do to allow udisksctl to mount block devices without prompting for authentication? I'm trying to replicate the same thing on Debian Stretch.
[03:52] <jerknextdoor> Upgraded my Dell XPS 15 from 16.04 to 17.04 over the weekend. After the first restart it goes to a black screen with '/dev/sda1 clean ####/##### blocks'. The OS is started in the background since I can ssh into the box, but something is going on with X or a driver I think. I've tried installing, removing, and every combination of driver possible. I finally gave up this afternoon and upgraded to 17.10 hoping that would get me some
[03:52] <jerknextdoor> I can successfully boot to the console, but am unable to `startx`. I'm out of ideas so any advice is appreciated.
[03:52] <senaps> hi, support for ubuntu 16.10 was ended two night a go, and now i want to upgrade to 17.04. using sudo apt dist-upgrade... it says nothing is there to update! sudo apt do-release-upgrade shows No new release found!
[03:52] <senaps> what should i do now?
[03:54] <jerknextdoor> senaps: `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`
[03:54] <jerknextdoor> senaps: sorry, `sudo do-release-upgrade` no need for the `-d`.
[03:55] <senaps> yup that throws a no new release found too :(
[03:56] <jerknextdoor> senaps: open up Software & Updates. Under the `updates` tab select `notify me of new ubunt version:` and set it to `for any new version`. that should do it.
[03:58] <senaps> jerknextdoor: i have done that too! its on any new version. it prompted me 2 nights ago for a upgrade but i didn't have a stable connection so i clicked on tell me later! now it's not upgrading or showing the need for upgrade:(
[04:23] <snowkidind> if i only wanted to accept incoming ssh connections from other computers within my network and not outside of my router, is there a way I can enforce that on ubuntu?
[04:25] <ghostinzshell> snowkidind: You can try setting the listen address to be your local subnet.
[04:25] <ghostinzshell> snowkidind: Or you can configure the firewall to just allow connections to your machine from your local subnet.
[04:25] <snowkidind> oh ok
[04:26] <snowkidind> thanks ill dig a bit
[04:49] <campitor> hello everyone
[04:50] <campitor> I think I messed up my dns settings, I can't lookup anything
[04:50] <campitor> how can I reset it to default?
[04:50] <campitor> neither nslokup nor other internet applications work. nslookup server <IP_ADDRESS> works
[04:50] <campitor> also server <IP_ADDRESS> (dnscrypt) works just fine
[04:51] <campitor> but other than that nothing else works out side of nslookup
[04:51] <campitor> help please
[04:53] <Ben64> campitor: well what did you do to cause the problem
[04:53] <Moondhum> Hello, I did a minimal install on my laptop. My integrated webcam doesn't seem to work. I have installed 'libv4l-0' and here is my demsg https://paste.debian.net/978006/ Also I don't have /dev/video present.
[04:53] <campitor> Ben64 : it is the funny part, I really don't know what got me here.
[05:02] <campitor> nope not working still
[05:02] <campitor> how can i force the whole os to only and only do ns lookup on <IP_ADDRESS>:53 ?
[05:02] <campitor> and no where else?
[05:03] <Ben64> campitor: you should really try to remember what you did
[05:04] <campitor> i really only set the dns setting for ethernet connection, nothing else
[05:05] <Ben64> so unset that
[05:05] <campitor> i don't know why the system is persistent on usin <IP_ADDRESS>:53 (Bind if I am not mistkaen) eventhough I am telling it to go for <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:05] <Ben64> theres no difference between <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:06] <campitor> ok,, if no diff, why nslookup on server <IP_ADDRESS> times out, but it answers perfectly on <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:06] <campitor> it really doesn't work on <IP_ADDRESS> !!!!
[05:06] <Ben64> you're going about this all wrong
[05:06] <campitor> how?
[05:07] <Ben64> just unset the dns
[05:07] <campitor> clear the settings?
[05:07] <campitor> all of them?
[05:07] <Ben64> yep
[05:07] <campitor> and it will lookup on my <IP_ADDRESS>:53 ? auto?
[05:07] <campitor> ok
[05:07] <campitor> let me go for it
[05:08] <campitor> with no dns set for ethernet: server can't find www.google.com: REFUSED
[05:08] <campitor> !!!
[05:08] <Ben64> now reboot
[05:08] <campitor> ok
[05:09] <campitor> 89ANI567
[05:10] <campitor> oops wrong place for BIOS pass
[05:10] <campitor> LOL
[05:14] <campitor> Ben64 : Ben my man, now server <IP_ADDRESS> > www.google.com results in server can't find www.google.com: SERVFAIL
[05:14] <campitor> !!
[05:14] <campitor> yet dnscrypt-proxy reports successful proxying to the dnscrypt server
[05:15] <campitor> did I mess something up or is this normal
[05:15] <campitor> yeap working now
[05:15] <campitor> wrong server chosen
[05:16] <Ben64> campitor: if you're going to pick a dns server, pick an actual dns server
[05:16] <campitor> what do you mean?
[05:16] <campitor> actual?
[05:16] <campitor> dnscrypt is pretty good, no?
[05:17] <Ben64> oh dnscrypt
[05:17] <campitor> cause without it, I think anyone can easily send me to www.letmehackyou.com instead of www.google.com
[05:17] <Ben64> not really
[05:17] <campitor> not just my isp, any one with access to my traffic
[05:18] <campitor> why not?
[05:18] <Ben64> ssl
[05:19] <campitor> well, yes, google was just an example, even though stealing ssl certs from some websites is not that hard, to make a copy of them. but this is super easy to copy a site with no ssl
[05:19] <campitor> am i right?
[05:19] <campitor> most of ubuntu update servers use no ssl
[05:19] <campitor> for obvious reasons
[05:20] <campitor> I know there are signatures and certs in place
[05:20] <campitor> but still, if someone has the sigs and the keys, they might give you a faulty update
[05:20] <campitor> no?
[05:22] <campitor> YEAP WORKING LIKE A CHARM, thanks Ben64
[05:22] <campitor> you awesome
[05:44] <DrTickles> http://imgur.com/gallery/F0UCN6D
[06:00] <Ademan> If I recall correctly (it's been so long since I've done a fresh install) there is an optional package statistic reporting tool, are the aggregated results of that reporting available anywhere?
[06:00] <Ademan> I'm specifically curious about percentages of users on 14.04 vs 16.04 and non-LTS releases
[06:01] <Ademan> (which I imagine could be inferred from the package data)
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Ademan: your on a server?
[06:43] <Mittens007> hi guys
[06:43] <Mittens007> I am trying to start using ubuntu
[06:44] <Mittens007> I have a HP laptop and was advised to get a 128gb flash drive and boot the ubuntu from the usb
[06:44] <Mittens007> someone mentioned that I would need empty "dvd" disk drives or something along with the usb
[06:44] <Mittens007> any idea what they are talking abou?
[06:44] <Mittens007> about?
[06:46] <jink> USB-stick with 128GB capacity.  Install Ubuntu on it.  Boot from it.
[06:46] <Mittens007> jink! so I don't need to order anything other than the USB 128GB flash drive?
[06:46] <jink> Order?
[06:47] <Mittens007> yes,  they told me to order a USB flash drive
[06:47] <jink> "they" ?
[06:47] <Mittens007> yes I was trying to get support from some people who already use ubuntu
[06:47] <Mittens007> but lost communication
[06:48] <Mittens007> and found this channel
[06:48] <Mittens007> #ketocaht
[06:48] <Mittens007> #ketochat
[06:48] <Mittens007> jink : do I need anything else to install and use ubuntu?
[06:49] <jink> If you want to try it out, using a USB-stick is a good option.  If you want to install it, you can go with USB or DVD, whatever works for you.
[06:50] <Mittens> jink: ohhh so I don't need that DVD thing whatever that is
[06:50] <Mittens> jink: just use the USB stick for now okay?
[06:50] <Mittens> they said something like, without DVD thing  I won't be able to boot it proper
[06:50] <Mittens> I could be wrong tho, I got dced mid convo
[06:51] <jink> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/try-ubuntu-before-you-install?_ga=2.76840597.1272931721.1500965406-1304707405.1500965406#0
[06:51] <Mittens> jink <3 thanks a lot
[06:52] <jink> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[06:52] <Mittens> jink thanks.
[06:53] <Mittens> I don't even know why it's necessary for me to keep windows10, and have two operating systems available
[06:53] <Mittens> what is the benefit to that?
[06:54] <Mittens> well I guess I can always download ubuntu directly onto my laptop
[07:26] <jojero> hi
[07:26] <jojero> may I ask some help, how to delete an installed theme
[07:29] <jojero> fixed it already by deleting local themes
[07:30] <Mittens> jink!
[07:30] <qswz> hmm is imagemagick also installed on ubuntu?
[07:30] <qswz> it seems required by cups
[07:30] <qswz> (print driver stuff I think)
[07:30] <Mittens> jink I heard back from them and found out why they ask u to purchase/order DVD disks!!!
[07:30] <Mittens> are u there?
[07:30] <qswz> (I'm on lubuntu)
[07:31] <cfhowlett> !info imagemagick
[07:38] <jink> Mittens: You don't have to.  You can burn your own.
[07:39] <jink> Mittens: Unless you don't know what you're doing, but then maybe Ubuntu isn't for you.
[07:40] <Mittens> jink: their reasoning was, because I'm downloading ubuntu onto the flashdrive, I can't burn the ISO on the flash, so I would need dvd cds to burn ISO on it
[07:40] <cfhowlett> mittens try a different USB?
[07:40] <jink> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows?_ga=2.76962069.1272931721.1500965406-1304707405.1500965406#0
[07:40] <Mittens> jink: I'm not good with computah stuff, but people gotta start somewhere :S
[07:41] <jink> Mittens: See that link.
[07:41] <Mittens> cfhowlett: hmm, I guess u can, right?
[07:42] <Mittens> this is so confusing. one ubuntu channel says I need the dvd cd
[07:42] <Mittens> but then this is the main
[07:42] <Mittens> shit.
[07:44] <jink> There is no "THE dvd".  You can burn your own.
[07:44] <jink> Or you can go with USB, and flash it yourself.
[07:45] <jink> You don't have to buy anything (except for a writable DVD or a USB-stick).
[08:13] <capruro> Hi there!
[08:34] <shmu> My new external 4k monitor is not recognized as 4k on Ubuntu GNOME ASUS UX560. Only HD resolution. I confirmed it works with 4k on Windows. Seems my X or whatever there is in this distro is not behaving nicely. Help?
[08:42] <Mittens> #freenode
[08:51] <mercury200Hg> I have a custom Ubuntu Live OS in a USB but it doesn't have a installer. Is there a way to install the same on a hard drive using set of commands from terminal ?
[09:12] <Mittens> ##illustrator
[10:01] <Kingsy> Can someone think of a cursor size config I am missing.. I have changed the cursor size in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and in ~/.Xresources where else would I have to change? I am getting a very large cursor in a few different applications.. one QT application for example.
[10:05] <oerheks> Kingsy, only certain cursos sizes are accepted, see this answer of dobey > "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-size 48" https://askubuntu.com/questions/682641/change-mouse-pointer-size-in-ubuntu-15-04
[10:05] <oerheks> if that does not work, check out the theme installed?? those can be nasty too
[10:05] <oerheks> e.g. with unity-tweak-tool
[10:06] <Kingsy> well I am using openbox
[10:06] <Kingsy> oerheks: if I use gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-size 48 it does absolutely nothing..
[10:08] <oerheks> maybe you need to logout/login again to take effect, i have no clue with openbox themes
[10:08] <Kingsy> oerheks: I am using lxappearance to set the cursor theme.. and I have tried alot of different ones
[10:09] <Kingsy> oerheks: no luck either.
[10:09] <Kingsy> let me try one more time
[10:11] <Kingsy> naa no good
[10:11] <Kingsy> its just so erratic
[10:11] <oerheks> :-(
[10:11] <Kingsy> now its huge in xfce-terminal
[10:11] <Kingsy> (I changed the cursor theme in lxappearance) then logged oput and back in again
[10:12] <oerheks> huge... 48 is huge indeed
[10:14] <Kingsy> ok adding 16 to ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini fixed xfce-terminal and chrome
[10:15] <oerheks> oke, you determined the right config.
[10:16] <oerheks> for the user, that is
[10:16] <Kingsy> well for xfce-terminal and chrome yes
[10:16] <Kingsy> but phpstorm for exampel is still shwoing a big big cursor
[10:16] <Kingsy> is there a settings.ini system wide? or another config I don't know about?
[10:18] <oerheks> not in the /home/ folders, that would be in /usr/share/themes/ and /usr/share/icons/
[10:19] <Kingsy> well those are the actual theme folders..
[10:20] <Kingsy> the index.theme files don't contain anything about cursor size
[10:20] <Durgeoble> hi
[10:20] <Kingsy> they just style the cursor right?
[10:23] <oerheks> hmm yes, no settings there in a file, you would need dconf for that
[10:24] <Kingsy> I checked dconf
[10:25] <Kingsy> I couldnt see any settings for cursor size on there at all
[10:25] <Kingsy> unless I am being blind
[10:26] <Kingsy> nothing under unity of course.. given I am not using unity
[10:26] <oerheks> that is where we started with,  org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-size 48
[10:27] <oerheks> but this theme and cursor thing is a mystery to me too
[10:27] <Kingsy> the cursor size is set to 16 on dconf.
[10:27] <Kingsy> the cursor theme is wrong...
[10:29] <Kingsy> ok corrected that but know that isnt going to make a differenc.e
[10:29] <Kingsy> hehe crazy to spend over a day trying to fix a cursor size
[10:29] <Mittens> it's a link
[10:30] <Mittens> woops wrong window
[10:30] <Kingsy> hehe damn I thought we had another chipping in :P
[10:30] <Kingsy> need all the help I can get at this point
[10:42] <vlt> Hello. Around every six or eight weeks our Ubuntu 16.04 LTS xrdp servers stop listening to port 3389 and no more logins are possible while all the old sessions are still running.
[10:43] <vlt> What could cause this?
[10:43] <vlt> Is there an internal "counter" that overflows after a certain amoutn of logins?
[10:43] <vlt> And how can I "refresh" xrdp without having to destroy all the old sessions?
[10:43] <vlt> old = currently running
[10:50] <oerheks> vlt, in the /etc/xrdp/xrdp.ini perhaps,     tcp_keepalive=[true|false] >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man5/xrdp.ini.5.html
[10:51] <oerheks> one should destroy old sessions, they seem to be not-properly-closed
[10:52] <Kingsy> swear to god.. hahaha I am going to throw my computer out the windopw :P
[10:54] <tomreyn> vlt: if there was an internal counter which overflowsand someone here knows about it then it would likely be a known and reported bug in this soiftware, one you could search the web for. you're basically asking whether the unexpected functionality in a specific software is a bug. since you asked this before (i think several times actually?) and no one happened to know about this specific behaviour, it's quiote unlikely you'll rub into someone on
[10:54] <tomreyn> this linux distribution channel whoo knows this specific software's source code well enough to tell whether its a bug or intended behaviour.
[10:54] <tomreyn> *rub -> run
[10:55] <tomreyn> in fact i saw you post this question a couple times, people responded (mentioning your nickname) and you went silent.
[10:55] <oerheks> if you specify the port static, you would reuse the old rdp session, it says https://askubuntu.com/questions/133343/how-do-i-set-up-xrdp-session-that-reuses-an-existing-session
[10:56] <oerheks> ah,asking in multiple channel, and forget to read
[10:56] <oerheks> ubottu, wipe my answer please.
[10:59] <tomreyn> maybe it'sa cron job ;)
[11:02] <qswz> cfhowlett sorry
[11:02] <qswz> http://i.imgur.com/PPtOJFw.png I mean I see this
[11:02] <qswz> if I remove imagemagick I'm afraid to break stuff
[11:05] <tomreyn> .aaand vlt went silent
[11:06] <qswz> vlc?
[11:06] <qswz> just use MPlayer
[11:06] <qswz> oh the user
[11:10] <sebsebseb> hi
[11:13] <glitsj16> Kingsy: I came in after you stated your cursor issue, so I don't know what the actual problem is, but if the box isn't out of the window yet, you could go over https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cursor_themes to check if you missed something
[11:16] <qswz> I also came
[11:22] <_8bits> What desktop tweaker are you using guys at the moment?
[11:23]  * qswz is on lubuntu
[11:23] <oerheks> useless to poll, _8bits, unity-tweak-tool for unity, gnome-tweak-tool for gnome3 etc etc
[11:23] <qswz> well I'm off before being molested
[11:23] <Kingsy> glitsj16: yeah I have been through that wiki a few times.
[11:23] <Kingsy> cant spot anything I havnt tried
[11:23] <qswz> LxQT is going to be great
[11:24] <oerheks> qswz, yes, waiting for 17.10 ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt
[11:25] <glitsj16> Kingsy: what cursor theme are you having trouble with?
[11:26] <Kingsy> glitsj16: all of them
[11:26] <qswz> yep
[11:27] <Kingsy> glitsj16: so the problem is on certain applications sucjh as keepassx or phpstorm the cursor is massive.. i'd say 3 times as big as it is when hovered over regular windows
[11:28] <Kingsy> this seems to be regardless of what cursor theme I have set. I am using lxappearance to set the theme (cursor and desktop) and I have openbox as my WM
[11:29] <glitsj16> Kingsy: have you specified Xcursor.size in ~/.Xresources?
[11:30] <Kingsy> yes I have Xcursor.size: 16
[11:30] <Kingsy> thats the only thing in that file mind
[11:31] <glitsj16> Kingsy: you'd need to put in the theme you use as well in that file, Xcursor.theme:foo
[11:32] <glitsj16> Kingsy: use the exact same name you see in /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme on the inherits line
[11:34] <Kingsy> ok done
[11:34] <Kingsy> I will log out and back ina gain
[11:35] <Kingsy> glitsj16: ok I think this is the issue. On lxappearance the cursor theme I have selected is called "moblin" however that is not the cursor theme that is applied.
[11:36] <Kingsy> also the issue still remains. the cursor is huge on certain windows
[11:36] <Kingsy> so somehow lxappearance isnt actually changing the cursor theme.
[11:36] <glitsj16> Kingsy: what is set in /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme? not 'moblin'?
[11:36] <Kingsy> surely its not waiting for a cold reboot ?
[11:37] <Kingsy> it is yes Inherits=moblin
[11:37] <glitsj16> Kingsy: that would be odd, a re-login should do it
[11:37] <Kingsy> yeah just did that.
[11:37] <Kingsy> its so so strange.
[11:37] <Kingsy> its like I have some serious misconfig somewhere.
[11:37] <Kingsy> I wish I could just scrap it all and return to default somehow.
[11:38] <glitsj16> maybe you could, i'm not familiar with lxappearance, no reset to default option?
[11:38] <Kingsy> no :(
[11:40] <Kingsy> I also find it strasnge having to do this at all.. I have been using openbox for years and never had this issue
[11:41] <mzaza> Can I create an SSH account that can run certain commands only, with no write permissions?
[11:41] <Kingsy> lxappearance also doesnt seem to be editing /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme its not changing when I change the cursor themem
[11:42] <glitsj16> Kingsy: do you have a symlink to the moblin theme in ~/.icons/default?
[11:42] <Kingsy> no index.theme is just a file owned by root. perhaps I should delete it
[11:42] <Kingsy> see if lxappearance makes one for me
[11:43] <glitsj16> Kingsy: i'm looking at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=97229
[11:43] <warri0rr> mzaza: sure
[11:43] <warri0rr> mzaza: that's why the execution bit and write bit are different
[11:44] <Kingsy> oh I lie --> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   32 Mar  7 16:49 index.theme -> /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme
[11:45] <mzaza> warri0rr: I have a directory and files owned to user 'ubuntu' I want user 'dummy' to be able to run php artisan commands in the same directory but not write to any files.
[11:46] <mzaza> warri0rr: Would you recommend using the default method for jailing SSH user or use Jailkit?
[11:46] <Kingsy> right I will update that via --> sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[11:46] <glitsj16> Kingsy: i forgot about the alternatives, if it isn't already complex enough lol
[11:47] <ppf> why are there no package contents available at https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/llvm-3.9 ?
[11:48] <glitsj16> ppf: there are, you need to follow the link at the bottom for your architecture --> list of files
[11:50] <oerheks> ppf, always check the updates- part https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/llvm-3.9
[11:50] <oerheks> it will give hte list of files, not the packages itself
[11:52] <ppf> oerheks: thanks!
[11:52] <Kingsy> glitsj16: tell me about it
[11:52] <ppf> so, essentially, xenial knows the package exists, but only xenial-updates has the contents?
[11:55] <Kingsy> glitsj16: I fixed it!!!!!
[11:56] <Kingsy> but I have no idea how...... :S
[11:56] <Kingsy> haha
[11:56] <glitsj16> Kingsy: haha, well, make a backup now you have it as you prefer
[11:56] <oerheks> ppf, when xenial was released, it used llvm 3.8 iirc, so that is why there are no packageslists there i guess
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:57] <glitsj16> hello BluesKaj
[11:57] <oerheks> that is why you always should look in updates on launchpad
[11:57] <ppf> oerheks: sounds alright
[11:58] <BluesKaj> hi glitsj16
[11:58] <Kingsy> glitsj16: I reverted everyhting to core
[11:58] <Kingsy> so its not running a theme.
[11:58] <Kingsy> but at least it works
[11:58] <Kingsy> totally right I will make a backup
[11:59] <glitsj16> Kingsy: nice catch, incredible how hard cursor themes are, i've had similar issues in other desktop environments
[12:00] <Kingsy> haha yeah. and also how ANNOYING it is when you have a cursor thats 3 times too big
[12:00] <Kingsy> :P
[12:01] <Kingsy> glitsj16: thankyou for your help!
[12:02] <glitsj16> Kingsy: no trouble, i just happenend to keep you motivated to try without throwing your box on to the pavement :p
[12:02] <vlt> oerheks: Thank you. The tcp_keepalive setting seems to be newer than in current LTS and I don't know exactly what it does.
[12:02] <Kingsy> haha yujp
[12:02] <Kingsy> I was on the cerge
[12:03] <Kingsy> verge*
[12:05] <vlt> tomreyn: Hi! Yes, I asked here a couple of times before. Propably every six to eight weeks when it happened again ;-)  I'll try to search the logs for an answer I might have missed. Thank you :-)
[12:07] <vlt> oerheks: What does "one should destroy old sessions" mean? My "old sessions" are sessions people currently work in without problems. Or did you mean TCP session (if there's such a thing)?
[12:08] <oerheks> old sessions as in your old session when it broke off without a kill signal.
[12:09] <necrophcodr> is this the right place to ask questions about using multistrap for ubuntu?
[12:12] <oerheks> necrophcodr, sure, ask wait and see.
[12:13] <oerheks> never used it myself, though
[12:17] <necrophcodr> I'm using multistrap with this configuration: https://browse.dgit.debian.org/multistrap.git/tree/examples/trusty.conf?id=debian/2.2.8
[12:18] <necrophcodr> but it's simply getting stuck on
[12:18] <necrophcodr> Setting up libselinux1:amd64 (2.2.2-1) ...
[12:18] <necrophcodr> Does anyone know how to get past this? Or how to troubleshoot it?
[12:18] <necrophcodr> I'm running it like this:
[12:19] <necrophcodr> fakechroot fakeroot perl multistrap -f multistrap.conf -d .
[12:28] <oerheks> selinux is not installed or enabled by default. We use apparmor by default.
[12:28] <vlt> oerheks: But (I think) I don't have any old sessions around everytime that happens. Any idea how to find out?
[12:28] <oerheks> but if you want to, you can .. https://askubuntu.com/questions/481293/selinux-implementation-in-ubuntu
[12:29] <necrophcodr> oerheks, i'm not asking for it to be installed either. does debian use selinux by default perhaps?
[12:29] <necrophcodr> it's a dependency that's being pulled somehow.
[12:29] <oerheks> necrophcodr, could well be, yes
[12:30] <oerheks> vlt, your problem was a xrdp service crashing, not accepting new connections, so it is hard to find out why with such little info, one issue could be ports in use, and hardcoding the port, could fix that
[12:31] <vlt> oerheks: Ah, I see ... thanks!
[12:35] <necrophcodr> it appears that it _does_ have it compiled in and depends upon it by default, even though it isn't enabled.
[12:35] <necrophcodr> i guess i'll have to find a workaround somehow.
[12:36] <necrophcodr> i could've sworn this wasn't a problem a couple months ago though
[12:57] <arunangshu> how to delete Google Drive Ocamlfuse from my device
[12:58] <tomreyn> how did you install it?
[12:58] <vlt> tomreyn: Hmmm ... unforunately in my logfiles I can't find a single answer to my xrdp problem I didn't answer. Can you point me to one? I really might have missed that then.
[12:59] <tomreyn> vlt: i'm not sure whether it logs to., i would check xorg.*.log*, syslog and dmesg at least.
[13:00] <vlt> tomreyn: Oh sorry, I referred to my *irc* logfiles.
[13:01] <vlt> tomreyn: Nothing in xorg.log (as X isn't involved at all here), nothing suspicious in syslog/dmesg or xrdp's sesman.log
[13:01] <tomreyn> vlt: one of the questions i asked you one of the lprevious times you asked your question is (roughly) "what's in your log files?"
[13:02] <tomreyn> have you tried to increase logging verbosity / enabling debug logging?
[13:06] <vlt> tomreyn: Not yet. I'll find out where to set that. Thanks!
[13:06] <tomreyn> apparently xrdp and sesman each have their own logging configurations. you may need to modifiy both
[13:06] <vlt> tomreyn: Is this also you? 2017-06-17 16:34:53     rictaslix       vlt: Have you checked your xrdp logs?
[13:06] <tomreyn> whats the error message when a client tries to connect? can you connect to the srdp server port using netcat still?
[13:07] <tomreyn> vlt: thats not me
[13:08] <vlt> tomreyn: Ok, then I'm sorry for not having replied to you. (I suspect a netsplit because there's absolutely nothing in my own irc logs.)
[13:08]  * vlt checks how to increase logging verbosity
[13:09] <tomreyn> vlt: it is possible that someone else asked what i meant to ask and since you never responded did not actually ask more questions, sorry if that's so, can't find it on irclogs.ubuntu.com using a web search either.
[13:12] <tomreyn> anyways, looking forwards, the generic approach to find out why some service is not working is: get textual error messages and check the web for any of these, possibly combined with a generic descritption of this issue; check log files; increase log file verbosity, reproduce the issue, check log files; maybe try a newer version; run service through gdb, get backtrace by the time things fail, pass it to the software developers, ask for more
[13:12] <tomreyn> instructions.
[13:13] <tomreyn> that's not exactly applicable in all cases, but should usually work
[13:13] <tomreyn> vlt: ^
[13:15] <vlt> tomreyn: Looking backwards for a last time: I hope I don't give the impression that I just want to demonstrate how wrong you are ;-)  I was just deperately trying to find an answer in the irc logs I might have missed. I really appreciate your help!
[13:17]  * vlt increases logging (but also fires up standby xrdp servers to take over when this happens again in around six weeks :-D)
[13:21] <tomreyn> vlt: it's fine, it's just generally (i can't verify whether this was the case here) a little frustrating when you respond to people's questions and they never get back to you on it, then repost the same message again later.
[13:21] <tomreyn> but i appreciate the energy you put into ruling this out.
[13:26] <tomreyn> vlt: (only) if any of the xrdp / sesman processes actually fail (segfault) you should be able to capture core files (by default those are not written to disk but piped into apport). if you have debug symbols installed you'll be able to gather 'meaningfuly' core files which you can use to generate a backtrace of the crash which can be useful to the software developers as well as the ubuntu package maintainers in identifying the malfunction.
[13:29] <tomreyn> but indeed look into better logging first of all
[13:32] <vlt> tomreyn: My current check if everything is fine is a `watch "netsat -tulpen | grep 3389"` :-D  Because everytime that problem occurs the process still is running (as well as the sessions of the already logged in users) but it stops listening to tcp 3389. And you're right: that's not a real _crash_ :-/
[13:32] <vlt> netstat, even
[13:35] <trijntje_> I have a problem with wifi, it stays connected but I cannot access the internet. Running 'sudo service network-manager restart' fixed it for a minute or so
[13:36] <arunangshu> how to delete Google Drive Ocamlfuse from my device
[13:36] <tomreyn> vlt: in case you would like to automate a workaround, better use 'lsof -i :3389'
 how did you install it?
[13:37] <tomreyn> arunangshu: ^
[13:39] <arunangshu> tomreyn: i followed this link "http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-mount-your-google-drive-on-linux-with-google-drive-ocamlfuse/"
[13:39] <vlt> tomreyn: Thank you! I had never used that. Why is this better?
[13:41] <vlt> tomreyn: Interestingly this return 11 more "ESTABLISHED" connections than currently logged in users. And that's 6 hours after server reboot.
[13:43] <tomreyn> trijntje_: are you aware that PPAs are not supported? this article seems to miss this information.
[13:44] <vimart> Hello #ubuntu
[13:44] <tomreyn> sorry trijntje_ this wasnt for you
[13:45] <tomreyn> arunangshu: are you aware that PPAs are not supported? this article seems to miss this information.
[13:45] <tomreyn> arunangshu: this said, you may be able to uninstall it using: sudo ppa-purge ppa:alessandro-strada/ppa
[13:46] <tomreyn> vlt: lsof allows you to specify the specific port you want to look for, whereas the netstat + grep is very error prone
[13:48] <tomreyn> vlt: so connections remain in established state on the server whereas the client has since disconnected. this could be due to a software bug, or due to incorrect firewall configurations.
[13:58] <j4f-shredder> Hey, I have ubuntu 16.10 and I'm trying to update grub on /etc/grub...is that file ok or I need to update the one of grub 2
[13:58] <j4f-shredder> I did the changes on the grub 1 file without any success
[13:58] <j4f-shredder> which makes me think that's not the file to edit
[14:00] <mertyildiran> Hi, my mouse cursor changes (like from normal to pointer on hover a link) sometimes (not always) a little bit jerky/choppy. It's like can't decide the correct icon for a moment and try to display all icons in a glimpse of an eye. The position is also glitching on changes. What could be the reason?
[14:02] <vlt> tomreyn: I think I found the reason for the reaminig connections. Because there's no "shutdown client pc" button on the xrdp login screen users just switch off their client. The xfreerdp process there has no chance to properly close the connection. BUT: The next time someone uses this client, a new ESTABLISHED connection appears in lsof's output. No duplicates for client IP addresses. I don't suspect this as
[14:02] <vlt> a cause (for now).
[14:02] <vlt> *remaining
[14:05]  * vlt checks lsof on a machine with 30+ days uptime
[14:05] <tomreyn> vlt: i think that's what oerheks discussed earlier
[14:07] <vlt> Bingo!
[14:08] <vlt> There's a machine with 20+ ESTABLISHED connections to the very same IP address.
[14:13] <Katronix> Hi all, if I want to use my Bluetooth headset to listen to music while running Ubuntu what kind of device do I need to tell Ubuntu it is?
[14:15] <leftyfb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community = Internal Server Error
[14:16] <arunangshu> i am trying to delete a app but getting this error "https://pastebin.com/qZd6Lugd" what to do please help
[14:16] <leftyfb> arunangshu: that link doesn't work
[14:17] <kunji> Katronix: For my Philips SHB4000 the Bluetooth device type on Ubuntu is 'Headset'
[14:18] <arunangshu> https://pastebin.com/qZd6Lugd
[14:18] <Katronix> kunji, okay how do you tell the audio to use it then? (I'm using plasma if that makes a difference)
[14:19] <oerheks> arunangshu, "Read-only file system" it seems your filesystem has errors or closed dirty, run fschk on boot to correct this
[14:19] <oerheks> !fschk
[14:19] <oerheks> !fsck
[14:23] <ejay> Hi all. Is there any repository for 17.04 with qt 5.9 packages?
[14:23] <arunangshu> ubottu: which cmd i should type
[14:24] <BluesKaj> ejay, have you checked launchpad ?
[14:25] <oerheks> ejay, no, build it yourself > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=qt
[14:26] <oerheks> we are @ 5.7.1 now https://launchpad.net/qt
[14:27] <ejay> thanks guys
[14:30] <oerheks> arun ubottu gives you 2 commands, to check and to skip a check. btw, ubuntu would show this filesck menu too when you boot normally, iirc
[14:32] <sebsebseb>
[14:32] <GeorgesLeYeti> Hi
[14:32] <sebsebseb> GeorgesLeYeti: hi
[14:33] <GeorgesLeYeti> Is it possible to "autocomplete" (when press tab) aliases in a terminal
[14:34] <oerheks> GeorgesLeYeti, sure, most commands need 3 letters, or try with 2 letters [tab]  and all possible combinations show up
[14:35] <GeorgesLeYeti> oerheks, but it seems not to work
[14:36] <th0r> GeorgesLeYeti, instead of defining an alias, write a one line script and link it to /usr/local/bin
[14:36] <arunangshu> i am trying to delete an application but getting "https://pastebin.com/qZd6Lugd"  this error please help
[14:37] <GeorgesLeYeti> th0r, Didn't though about that. Ty for the advice
[14:37] <welcomeparty> th0r: cause /usr/local/bin is already on the default path when you do echo $PATH
[14:38] <leftyfb> arunangshu: you were already given an answer and the next step you should be doing to troubleshoot
[14:38] <th0r> welcomeparty, right. I have a ~/bin, so I can edit the scripts as user. But I link them to /usr/local/bin so they are all in the path
[14:38] <leftyfb> !fsck arunangshu
[14:38] <leftyfb> !fsck | arunangshu
[14:38] <arunangshu> leftyfb: please guide me with proper cmd as i am new here
[14:39] <oerheks> sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now .. really that hard to read?
[14:39] <leftyfb> arunangshu: please follow the exact instructions just given to you
[14:39] <welcomeparty> th0r: or u can define path urself
[14:40] <th0r> welcomeparty, your choice. I don't like to clutter up the path any more than necessary.
[14:41] <welcomeparty> oerheks: but when u type reboot and system reboot cleanly, fsck always try to read from /etc/fstab right? thats the reason when u mess with the fs path, it wont boot up
[14:41] <welcomeparty> th0r: sounds good. indeed, it depends on the choice
[14:42] <arunangshu> issuing "sudo touch /forcefsck" this command i am getting "touch: cannot touch '/forcefsck': Read-only file system" error
[14:43] <eater99999> Hi - I accidentally ran "chown -R eater9 /" and now I can't do a damn thing. How can I fix it? I'm concerned that if I try to reboot into single-user mode it won't even boot because of ownership errors.
[14:44] <leftyfb> arunangshu: try: sudo mount -o remount,rw / ; sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot
[14:44] <leftyfb> eater99999: you cannot. You will need to reinstall and restore from backup
[14:44] <oerheks> leftyfb +1 mount -o remount,rw / and run it again
[14:44] <eater99999> PS I am not a total idiot -- I was chowning a normal home subdir and a terminal bug was secretly mirroring my typing into a root shell
[14:45] <oerheks> but this fsck should pop up anyway ...
[14:45] <oerheks> eater99999, the -R did it all recursive, backup your data with a live iso and reinstall
[14:45] <arunangshu> well i got  "mount: cannot remount /dev/sda5 read-write, is write-protected
[14:45] <arunangshu> touch: cannot touch '/forcefsck': Read-only file system
[14:45] <arunangshu> "
[14:46] <leftyfb> eater99999: unless you want to build an exact replica of your entire OS on another machine and go through each and every single file and fix the permissions on each and every one, there is absolutely nothing you can do to fix the OS. Reinstallation is your only option
[14:46] <leftyfb> arunangshu: write protected? Is this not installed on a regular hard drive?
[14:47] <oerheks> sdcard with a flipmode ..?
[14:47] <leftyfb> that's my guess
[14:47] <leftyfb> or usb with a write-protect option
[14:47] <eater99999> leftyfb: arghhhhh thanks
[14:47] <arunangshu> no i have installed it on my disk only
[14:48] <oerheks> fix your partitions with a live iso then https://askubuntu.com/questions/251284/ubuntu-goes-into-read-only-mode-randomly
[14:49] <leftyfb> it's more than likely a bad hard drive
[14:49] <yosefrow> @worksti somevar="$(/sbin/ip route|awk '/default/ { print $3 }')"
[14:50] <eater99999> nothing to lose from trying to manually fix a bunch of executables' ownership while I'm booted from the live ISO ... I will report back
[14:50] <leftyfb> lol
[14:51] <oerheks> fixing complete / ...
[14:51] <eater99999> what was I going to do, get work done today?
[14:51] <leftyfb> eater99999: you do realize that might take you years right?
[14:51] <leftyfb> there are currently 1879805 files/directories on my system as an example
[14:52] <leftyfb> maybe not years
[14:52] <leftyfb> not certainly not in a day
[14:53] <eater99999> well, I'll give up after a few hours if I haven't had any success, but I'm fantasizing that chowning /etc /usr/bin and such back to root will fix the most glaring issues?
[14:53] <leftyfb> nope
[14:53] <leftyfb> but good luck
[14:53] <leftyfb> it will be WAY quicker to reinstall
[14:54] <leftyfb> and less work
[14:54] <eater99999> leftyfb: because a lot of system files have to be owned by specific system users, not root?
[14:54] <oerheks> tons of treads , but quickest way would be backupdata and reinstall, https://askubuntu.com/questions/43621/what-if-i-accidentally-run-command-chmod-r-on-system-directories-etc
[14:55] <oerheks> there are more groups than $USER and root..
[14:55] <leftyfb> neat little ruby script in that link
[14:57] <eater99999> oerheks: the groups and the permissions are still intact, it's just the primary ownership. I'm prepared to reinstall but I figure I'll try a little rechowning first
[14:58] <oerheks> maybe that url is any help :-)
[14:59] <Al3xG0> how to solve problem https://i.gyazo.com/29b54376bafef71b2d587cb4951a2018.png
[14:59] <eater99999> yeah, maybe I can set up a clean system to use as a model
[15:00] <eater99999> super fun
[15:00] <oerheks> Al3xG0, explain what happens plese, that error is not in english
[15:00] <leftyfb> oerheks: you might be better off in #ubuntu-es
[15:01] <eater99999> thanks guys; catch you later
[15:01] <oerheks> running a program with the name @@BINARY@@ %  ??
 yes
[15:02] <oerheks> quick google says it is a vmware error?
[15:02] <Al3xG0> oerheks sure
[15:02] <leftyfb> sure?
[15:02] <oerheks> LoLz, ask vmware :-D
[15:19] <__Yiota> how do I put a long command in flock's -c ?
[15:20] <__Yiota> I want to run a psql script
[15:22] <rpg> I just did an aptitude safe-upgrade, upgrading jenkins, and after jenkins upgrade I get a configure error because there's no java in PATH for startup script. Actually this safe-upgrade for some reason *removed* a number of java-related packages.
[15:22] <rpg> Any suggestions how to fix this?
[15:24] <rpg> checking with aptitude search I indeed seem to have no java packages now.
[15:25] <rpg> jenkins package weirdly seems to have no java dependency.
[15:30] <rpg> Looks like hand-(re)installing the java 8 jdk solves the problem, but I have no idea why apt decided it was appropriate to *remove* it....
[16:07] <epinky> what's the off topic channel?
[16:08] <pankaj> Can anybody answer my question. Where does ubuntu stores its runlevel value?
[16:08] <epinky> !runlevel
[16:08] <epinky> !runlevel | pankaj
[16:09] <tomreyn> !ot | epinky
[16:09] <pankaj> ubottu: OK. So how does it related to /etc/init.d directory?
[16:10] <tomreyn> actually ubuntu now uses systemd, not upstart
[16:10] <pankaj> ubottu: So, Is their any channel for finding deep info about Linux System?
[16:11] <emanuel1205> guten nabend
[16:12] <tomreyn> pankaj: ubottu is just what it says, a bot. epinky had asked it to tell you about runlevels
[16:12] <tomreyn> !de | emanuel1205
[16:12] <epinky> pankaj: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/update-rc.d.8.html
[16:12] <pankaj> epinky: Thanks for link.
[16:13] <epinky> pankaj: indeed update-rc.d is in between those, what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:14] <pankaj> epinky: I was reading about runlevels and it said that files for specific runlevels are specified in /etc/init.d like rcn.d (n is runlevel number). But in current Linux operating System it is not as I said.
[16:15] <oerheks> 16.04 / systemd uses systemctl to change runlevel https://askubuntu.com/questions/788323/change-runlevel-on-16-04
[16:15] <oerheks> still, where runlevel is stored, i guess in memory, on disk there are only scripts.
[16:15] <pankaj> epinky: Sorry. I just stambled between /etc and /etc/init.d/ . The directories are their in /etc.
[16:15] <epinky> pankaj: we use systemd for managing services now: https://www.linux.com/learn/understanding-and-using-systemd
[16:18] <pankaj> oerheks: Is their any shortcut command so that I can change runlevel on fly?
[16:18] <devster31> hello guys, I'm looking at this page: http://www.freenas.org/freenas-vs-ubuntu-with-zfs-on-linux/ and it seems to suggest that there's a manually-installable GUI for Ubuntu, is that a package of some kind?
[16:20] <oerheks> pankaj, no
[16:20] <tomreyn> devster31: a gui providing what?
[16:20] <pankaj> oerheks: So, where is the file in ubuntu stored where I can change the runlevel. I do not want to change anything. Just see and confirm.
[16:21] <devster31> tomreyn administration functionalities for ZFS similar to FreeNAS, it is the freeNAS page
[16:21] <oerheks> if you type 'runlevel' you get the answer
[16:21] <oerheks> again: where runlevel is stored, i guess in memory, on disk there are only scripts.
[16:22] <oerheks> devster31, freenas itself comes with a webgui
[16:22] <tomreyn> devster31: alright, i'm not aware of a ZFS administration GUI for ubuntu, but that does not mean anythnig, i never looked for one.
[16:23] <devster31> oerheks yes, I know, but it's not linux, it's based on FreeBSD, and I don't really want that
[16:24] <devster31> I was trying to replicate at least part of it on Ubuntu, the page I linked seemed like a good resource
[16:24] <pankaj> oerheks: No, Sorry but I was talking about the text file where runlevel value is stored.
[16:24] <oerheks> pankaj, there is no such file AFAIK
[16:24] <oerheks> why?
[16:25] <pankaj> oerheks: I thinks I was studying a book and I saw their the directory. I tried on computer and I found. But it was 2 to 3 days earlier and now I do not know that what was the name of the book and what was the name of file.
[16:40] <pankaj> What is the use of single user mode in linux. Why?
[16:40] <oerheks> for admin/recovery purpose
[16:43] <illmatix> I'm running ubuntu 16.04 server and trying to get mongodb installed but i keep running into an issue with libc6 not being the correct version and apt-cache doesn't seem to list any newer versinos than 2.19
[16:45] <oerheks> illmatix, odd, xenial updates gives 2.23 https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/libc6
[16:45] <illmatix> yeah that's what i'm seeing on that page too. Not sure why my local updates and cache checks only list the other version
[16:45] <oerheks> did you run sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade # this might help
[16:46] <illmatix> hrm.. full-upgrade vs upgrade?
[16:46] <oerheks> if you run it, you still need to confirm, but it gives a list what might be held back
[16:46] <oerheks> newer kernel?
[16:46] <illmatix> lol nothing.
[16:47] <tomreyn> xenial comes with libc6 2.23 by default., if you have an older version currently it suggests a failed distribution upgrade or manually installed packages
[16:48] <illmatix> oh actually, i must be on trusty so that's 14.04?
[16:48] <oerheks> aii good find, tomreyn
[16:48] <tomreyn> what does this give? dpkg -l libc6; lsb_release -sd
[16:48] <oerheks> yeah, trusty gives 2.19-0ubuntu6.13
[16:49] <illmatix> libc6:amd64 2.19-0ubuntu6.13 / Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[16:49] <tomreyn> so yes it's always good to know what you're working with ;)
[16:49] <illmatix> ahh okay that seems to be the limitation currently. Is there anyway to get a newer version without building manually?
[16:49] <peyam_> hi. whel installing ubuntu I accidently removed the windows Bootloader partition now when using update-grub it does not detect win 10
[16:49] <EriC^^> peyam_: do you have a windows cd?
[16:50] <tomreyn> illmatix: you can upgrade ubuntu
[16:50] <peyam_> yes. but will not detect ubuntu.
[16:50] <illmatix> tomreyn oerheks  well thanks for the help.
[16:50] <oerheks> building for mongodb 2.4.9-1ubuntu2 ?? such old version, i would not stick time in that ..
[16:50] <peyam_> EriC^^, I have bootable USB
[16:50] <tomreyn> illmatix: don't try to increase the version number of libc6 on ubuntu 14.04, you will break your system.
[16:50] <illmatix> haha oerheks alright sounds like i'll avoid a manual build
[16:51] <EriC^^> peyam_: great boot it and go to advanced > command prompt, and reinstall your bootloader according to the windows version and booting mode
[16:51] <EriC^^> peyam_: are you in ubuntu right now?
[16:51] <peyam_> EriC^^, yes
[16:52] <EriC^^> peyam_: open a terminal and type "sudo parted -l | nc termview.me 9"   it'll give you a link, paste it here
[16:52] <W4RH4WK> hey, is it normal that i cannot open links from snaps (specifcally the discord app) ?
[16:53] <peyam_> http://termview.me/wpbk EriC^^
[16:55] <EriC^^> peyam_: are you sure you removed the bootloader partition?
[16:55] <peyam_> EriC^^, yes
[16:55] <oerheks> W4RH4WK, yes, you need the xdg open plugin > sudo apt install snapd-xdg-open  https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/05/04/discord-is-now-available-as-a-snap-for-ubuntu-and-other-distributions/
[16:55] <EriC^^> it's legacy not uefi and windows is on a totally different disk, not much space in the start of it that's unallocated
[16:55] <peyam_> I removed all paritions in sda and replaced it with those you see EriC^^
[16:56] <oerheks> W4RH4WK, with that plugin, other snaps come alive too, i guess
[16:56] <EriC^^> peyam_: yes, where is windows now?
[16:56] <EriC^^> peyam_: oh sorry
[16:56] <peyam_> EriC^^, yes. windows is on sdb. and I just created 170Gb for it. the rest is allocated! :)
[16:57] <EriC^^> peyam_: yes it's on 170gb out of 500gb
[16:57] <peyam_> yes
[16:58] <EriC^^> peyam_: type "/join ##windows" here and ask them about the issue
[16:58] <Guy1524> hey guys, how do I found out which model bluetooth adapter I have
[16:58] <W4RH4WK> oerheks: i have snapd-xdg-open installed and xdg-open on the commandline works fine, any ideas?
[16:59] <oerheks> W4RH4WK, nope, that was my only clue
[16:59] <W4RH4WK> oerheks: thank you anyway
[17:06] <jerknextdoor> Upgraded my XPS 15 from 16.04 to 17.04 over the weekend. After the first restart it goes to a black screen with '/dev/sda1 clean ####/##### blocks'. The OS is started in the background since I can ssh into the box, but something is going on with X or a driver I think. I've tried installing, removing, and every combination of driver possible. I finally gave up this afternoon and upgraded to 17.10 hoping that would get me somewhere
[17:06] <jerknextdoor> I can successfully boot to the console, but am unable to `startx`. I'm out of ideas so any advice is appreciated.
[17:12] <linux-phaedrus> !nvidia | jerknextdoor
[17:23] <spearthistle> hi, i recently updated 14.04.05 LTS and can no longer login.  I've tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop.  installing gnome and lubuntu.  renaming .Xauthority etcetera.  but no luck, any ideas?
[17:24] <jerknextdoor> linux-phaedrus: As I said, I've tried most every driver combination possible. I still get the same result. I cannot start X.
[17:25] <pankaj> oerheks: What is the use of single user mode and why and when does kernel use it. Can you please give an example.
[17:25] <Bashing-om> spearthistle: At the login screen, what results with key combo crl+alt+F1 ? Can you log into the system here ?
[17:26] <spearthistle> Bashin-om: aye, i can get to console screen?
[17:26] <oerheks> pankaj, to reset the password of root-account, would be one.
[17:27] <Bashing-om> spearthistle: Next up is a graphics driver . what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ? unclaimed ? and what driver is shown on the configuration line ?
[17:29] <pankaj> OK. So, I will do it practically ones. What is the difference between runlevel 2 and 3?
[17:29] <spearthistle> Bashing-om: i briefly see "PCI (sysfs)" then it goes back to root prompt?
[17:31] <Bundestrojaner> good evening. My Computer (Kubuntu 16 LTS) keeps freezing, i can't even go to command line (strg+alt+f1), it doesn't do anything. Which log-files could help here?
[17:32] <Bashing-om> spearthistle: Ouch,  New situation to me . See what we can find out . Pastebin: ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[17:32] <pankaj> oerheks: OK. So, I will do it practically ones. What is the difference between runlevel 2 and 3?
[17:32] <oerheks> !runlevels
[17:33] <oerheks> but you are given enough documentation to answer that
[17:33] <genii> Hm, needs updating to reflect default is now systemd
[17:34] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Looks like we need to update the factoid to systemd :)
[17:34] <spearthistle> Bashing-om: no such file or directory.  use netcat?
[17:34] <spearthistle> ;)
[17:34] <ioria> spearthistle, lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'
[17:34] <oerheks> genii, indeed, this answer is pretty selfexplaining with systemctl https://askubuntu.com/a/788465
[17:36] <spearthistle> ioria: pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci    lspci: Cannot find any working access method?
[17:37] <ioria> spearthistle, are you root ?
[17:37] <spearthistle> ioria: logged in as root.
[17:37] <ioria> spearthistle, why ? are you in recovery mode  ?
[17:38] <spearthistle> ioria: i don't think so.  i just did ctrl-alt-2 to get to a console screen, then logged in as root?
[17:38] <ioria> spearthistle, can you exit and  normally  log in again ?
[17:39] <spearthistle> ioria: yes, I can exit, then log back in as root or spearthistle if necessary?
[17:39] <ioria> spearthistle, as you user
[17:39] <ioria> *
[17:40] <spearthistle> ioria: yes, as spearthistle.  ran the same lspci command and got same error?
[17:40] <ioria> spearthistle, uname -r
[17:41] <spearthistle> ioria: 3.10.18
[17:41] <ioria> spearthistle,  cat /etc/issue
[17:41] <spearthistle> ioria: Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[17:41] <ioria> spearthistle,  i don't think so ....:þ
[17:42] <ioria> spearthistle,  ls /boot
[17:42] <ioria> spearthistle,  paste it, please
[17:42] <spearthistle> ioria: NULL or nothing returned.
[17:42] <ioria> spearthistle,  there is no 3.10 kern on trusty
[17:43] <ioria> spearthistle,  really idk that are you running atm
[17:43] <spearthistle> ioria: if I may explain a little.  this is a non-standard install.  a chrubuntu install on a chromebook tegra K1 (armhf).  i made the mistake of including backports and cutting edge stuff.  after an update this problem surfaced?
[17:44] <ioria> spearthistle,  i'am sure about that
[17:44] <Al3xG0> pavucontrol
[17:44] <Al3xG0> pavucontrol: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgiomm-2.4.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN4Glib11VariantTypeD1Ev
[17:44] <Al3xG0> whats solve problem?
[17:44] <balooo> Hi everyone.  We recently updated to 4.10.0-27-generic,  and since we've found a whole bunch uninteruptable processes popping up across the esate.  It seems to be related to our cron.daily being run, although there is nothing present in that folder.  Our setup is a little complicated (kubernetes/docker) so without going into the details, Im looking into advice on how i can investigate this further myself?  For example I have one server with over 400
[17:44] <balooo> processes in an uninteruptable state.  "root     128249  0.0  0.0  44004  2560 ?        D    05:17   0:00 /usr/sbin/CRON -f"
[17:45] <spearthistle> ioria: the chubuntu script might be able to install 12.04 LTS, maybe that a safer option, but 14.04 has been running in this non-standard state for a while?
[17:46] <spearthistle> ioria: what does "really idk" mean?
[17:46] <ioria> spearthistle, I don't know
[17:47] <spearthistle> ioria: okay, so the safer option might be a chrubuntu install of 12.04?  I was really pleased with the 14.04 install because all tegra K1 drivers were working (4.4 openGL and fishGL at 50fps).
[17:48] <oerheks> chrubuntu is not an official supported ubuntu thingy
[17:48] <spearthistle> oerheks: thingy ma-jig?
[17:49] <oerheks> ChrUbuntu is no longer maintained (after 2014) too
[17:49] <DWSR> Hey all, I'm trying to generate a Ubuntu 16.04 Hyper-V VM using Packer. I'm following this guide: http://kappataumu.com/articles/creating-an-Ubuntu-VM-with-packer.html and adjusting for Hyper-V. I can generally get it to work, my only problem is that the grub command that is listed there isn't working for 16.04. When manually trying to boot from Grub CLI, I'm getting `command not found: /install/vmlinuz` even though `ls /install` show
[17:49] <DWSR> shed some light on this*
[17:50] <spearthistle> oerheks: okay, might have to sell the hardware then :(
[17:50] <Bundestrojaner> My Computer (Kubuntu 16 LTS) keeps freezing.
[17:50] <Bundestrojaner> In syslog, i've found strange lines about my nvidia card: "Pinguin kernel: [ 9365.468112] NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:01:00): 79, GPU has fallen off the bus" - what can i do now?
[17:51] <oerheks> spearthistle, stick to crouton, i guess.
[17:52] <spearthistle> oerheks: crouton sucks... :P
[17:54] <someone_> Hi , I want install all available libraries for wine, How I can do that ?
[17:55] <spearthistle> all: thanks for trying... i might just risk a reinstall of non-standard 14.04 and limp on with crutches!
[17:57] <Al3xG0> pavucontrol: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgiomm-2.4.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN4Glib11VariantTypeD1Ev how to solve error?
[17:58] <oerheks> someone_, there is winetricks, playonlinux and the wineHQ database for help, oh and they have a channel too
[17:58] <oerheks> !wine
[18:00] <Al3xG0> oerheks how to remove symbol lookup ?
[18:00] <Al3xG0> ubuntu 16
[18:00] <someone_> thanks
[18:00] <Al3xG0> i create "echo /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libglibmm-2.4.so.1 | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.so.conf.d/LD_LIBRARY_PATH.conf"
[18:01] <Al3xG0> I do not know how to remove it now.
[18:01] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: Are you running the open source driver, nouveau ?  I was running ubuntu server in vmware and changes /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf file's default runlevel to 0. ANd now my ubuntu server starts but do not start as was expected. Is their any solution for this?
[18:19] <th0r> those questions are beginning to sound a lot like a homework assignment
[18:20] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-375/+bug/1662860 . See if the fix applies . Be aware the sylinks break at each driver update . I am undecided what to do about breaking the symlinks .
[18:20] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: thx!!!
[18:22] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: It just looks related . could be . Be a good thing though to do the symlinks anyway . A pain to keep current .
[18:22] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: i'm just reading, but how is it related? i don't get errors at installing, i have random freezes of my system
[18:24] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: Freezes are tough to identify . As is now maybe binaries won't know where to find their library files ?
[18:25] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: The error in syslog is: "NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:01:00): 79, GPU has fallen off the bus.", doesn't look like a symlink-problem for me
[18:34] <Bashing-om> burroughs: Blundering along : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/733374 post #70 ?? .
[19:02] <arooni> how come this command seems to take forever in my home directory (there arent that many files htere)   ls --group-directories-first --time-style=+"%m.%d.%Y %H:%M" --color=auto -F ;; ubuntu 16.04
[19:05] <oerheks> ls -ls
[19:07] <L00P3X> GoodEvening #ubuntu.. i have a ton of zips i can not extract in one shot.. have to do it one by one.. just why :\
[19:07] <oerheks> arooni, even " ls -la --group-directories-first --time-style=+"%m.%d.%Y %H:%M" --color=auto -F " runs like a charm
[19:09] <arooni> nevermind -- it was because i had a network drive that was unavailable and symlinked from home directotry
[19:09] <arooni> i unmounted it and everything is great again
[19:09] <oerheks> ai, good find :-D
[19:10] <arooni> well it wasnt my idea; was googling around
[19:10] <arooni> :P
[19:12] <arooni> i was wondering what was going on; i didnt put a SSD in this laptop for nothing haha
[19:12] <pankaj> Hello friends. I currently messed with my vmware ubuntu server. Can anybody tell me a way so that I can configure its filesystem because I know the error.
[19:14] <Bashing-om> pankaj: Pastebin the error . Then pehaps someone here can point you in the right direction .
[19:15] <th0r> Bashing-om, I bet the pastebin doesn't show
[19:15] <pankaj> Bashing-om: Actually the thing is that I changed the DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL to 0 in /etc/init.d/rc-sysinit.conf
[19:16] <pankaj> Bashing-om: So, as I get in the virtual machine shuts down quickly.
[19:18] <Bashing-om> pankaj: As I do not know alternate means to access a vm station, others here will have jump in to assist .
[19:22] <ioria> pankaj, that file should be in /etc/init not in in /etc/init.d
[19:23] <oerheks> lolz @ ioria you catched the troll
[19:24] <ioria> ^_^
[19:24] <oerheks> doing his homework i guess
[19:25] <Uname-r> Howdy folks. I hope this is the right place for a quick question. Anybody have a suggestion for software I can use to make simple edits to the text of a PDF file? Libreoffice Draw breaks most of the formatting for me.
[19:30] <BluesKaj> !pdf
[19:31] <BluesKaj> too bad, instant gratification  loses again
[19:31] <area51pilot> Uname -r, Im looking for one I had about a week ago beofre i did a clean install on my system
[19:31] <tomreyn> ^ gone
[19:31] <area51pilot> thx
[19:32] <thebwt> kami, integrated with google drive is pretty good (though not ubuntu specific)
[19:33] <area51pilot> thebwt, I normally use Dochub ... but there was ne native to the system that did more of what I need like annotations, highlighting, etc
[19:34] <area51pilot> just can remember for the life of me what it was now and I spent half the day trying alternatives   :P
[19:35] <thebwt> good luck in your search :)
[19:35] <area51pilot> :)
[19:39] <wooster> hello i could use some help... i am running ubuntu in vmware. i have open-vm-tools etc installed. the tools work if i'm in unity, but if i switch WMs (to spectrwm) then the usual tools and stuff like resizing the window don't work right
[19:39] <wooster> any idea what that's about?
[19:44] <thebwt> I don't know at all, but my hunch leans towards it only works with gnome based WMs.
[19:45] <MikeSee> If I have three cronjobs that all run at the same time, say * * * * *; will they be run in any particular order by crond, or just in the order they are in the crontab?
[19:46] <wooster> yeah i don't doubt gnome is involved somehow
[19:46] <wooster> but i don't know how to proceed
[19:46] <ioria> MikeSee, https://askubuntu.com/questions/143666/in-what-order-do-cron-jobs-with-the-same-schedule-run
[19:46] <MikeSee> beautiful, thanks :)
[19:47] <thebwt> wooster: may just need to rerun xrandr with flags to resize the system manually
[19:47] <MikeSee> ah, just as I suspected, a wrapper bash to ensure order, or &&'s  Thanks ioria .
[19:48] <ioria> MikeSee, you're welcome
[19:48] <wooster> "rerun xrandr with flags" what's xrandr? what flags?
[19:49] <balooo> Hi,  I'm having serious problems after upgrading the kernal to 4.10.0-27-generic.  You can see the problem by installing  Docker version 1.12.6. and doing `docker run phusion/baseimage sleep 10000`.  After doing this, any attempt to cat/modify the `/etc/crontab` file in the container causes the system to hang.  Every attempt to run cron.hourly, causes more and more uninteruptable process that cannot be cleaned up.  This prevents docker from being able to
[19:49] <balooo> do docker stop/kill.
[19:50] <balooo> Anyhelp, advice would be hugely appreciated.  Doing this exact same thing on kernel 4.4 works without any problems.  We've seen this across about 100 nodes, so it's pretty consistent.
[19:51] <pankaj> Where are ubuntu log files stored. I checked /etc/syslog.conf file but it was not there?
[19:52] <balooo> In /var/log ?  Is that what you mean?
[19:52] <polyarchive_> hi folks, i am wondering if there is a way to fix a locked logon screen via the tty terminal?
[19:53] <polyarchive_> this only happens sometimes when i wake the computer from sleeping, that the login ox won't appear
[19:53] <polyarchive_> using linux mint cinnamon
[19:53] <tomreyn> !mint | polyarchive_
[19:54] <polyarchive_> i was in the linux mint channel but they referred me here
[19:54] <balooo> tomreyn:  I'm using ubuntu ubuntu :)
[19:54] <genii> !mint
[19:54] <tomreyn> pankaj: the default system logging daemon on ubuntu is rsyslog, its configuration is stored in /etc/rsyslog*
[19:54] <pankaj> balooo: I mean /var/log/syslog.conf
[19:55] <balooo> any ideas, why 4.10.0-27 kernel might be causing cron to go crazy in containers ? :)
[19:55] <soee> hi, what is the proper way to get Firefox Devepoper Edition on Ubuntu ?
[19:55] <genii> polyarchive_: Were you on the spotchat network mint channel, or the one here on freenode?
[19:55] <genii> ( because spotchat is the official one)
[19:55] <polyarchive_> spotchat
[19:56] <balooo> Actually, maybe a more useful question for here is,  is there a guide/instructions I can read to learn how to downgrade the kernel from 4.10 to 4.8
[19:56] <tomreyn> balooo: the most relevant thing i know about docker is that i dont want to use it
[19:56] <balooo> do you know anything about downgrading :)
[19:56] <pankaj> tomreyn: OK.
[19:56] <tomreyn> yes, that it is not supported
[19:56] <thebwt> wooster: sorry don't recall, been a long tme since I used linux on a desktop.
[19:57] <balooo> tomreyn:  heh, really?  If that's the case, it's good for me to know.  Are there any reference on that?
[19:57] <wooster> ic
[19:58] <thebwt> balooo: may find luck with lts kernel vs hwe kernel
[19:58] <thebwt> not sure of those versions, but that sounds like a workable avenue
[19:58] <tomreyn> balooo: oh you mean just the kernel, not the ubuntu release, i had not read the other line.
[19:59] <polyarchive_> how would you kill a locked logon screen in ubuntu?
[19:59] <tomreyn> balooo: you should be able to downgrade packages by installing a specific version
[20:00] <tomreyn> balooo: besides the apt-get man pages, this also discusses the process of downgrading a given package to a given package version  https://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[20:01] <balooo> thanks for that.
[20:01] <thebwt> polyarchive_: if you can switch to another tty with ctrl-alt-f5 or something, you can login on the cli and restart the lightdm service or wahtever your login manager is
[20:02] <polyarchive_> thanks -- is there a way to see what my login manager in tty?
[20:03] <tomreyn> polyarchive_: your question seems incomplete.
[20:03] <thebwt> he wants to confirm the name of his login manager via the command line
[20:04] <thebwt> it should be in `ps aux`, try `ps aux | grep light` and see if lightdm comes up
[20:04] <thebwt> lightdm, gdm, not sure for kde
[20:05] <oerheks> mint uses something else with cinnamon, right?
[20:05]  * thebwt shrugs
[20:05] <balooo> tomreyn:  do you know if it's possible to install a specific version of linux-generic-hwe-16.04 ?
[20:05] <polyarchive_> grep light returns grep --color=auto light
[20:06] <thebwt> hmm, then it's not that
[20:06] <glitsj16> polyarchive_: look to where /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service is symlinked
[20:06] <tomreyn> balooo: if you have more than one available, you should be able to. maybe state what you are specifically trying to do including the source and target package versions
[20:06] <polyarchive_> grep login returned a few things.... /bin/login -- and /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
[20:07] <polyarchive_> do any of those sound right?
[20:07] <thebwt> see what glitsj16 said
[20:07] <thebwt> and actually, if that works then I think `systemctl restart display-manager` would do it
[20:07] <thebwt> which that's really really cool
[20:11] <balooo> tomreyn:  sure.  I am trying to get back 4.4.0-77-generic from 4.10.0-27-generic.   When i look at the apt history.log all i see is: apt installing linux-generic-hwe-16.04 which brings in linux-headers-4.10.0-27-generic and linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04:amd64 and a few more others.  So I was trying to find a package i could install that would manage all those dependencies, allowing me to just go back to what it was, i.e. 4.4.0-77.  I'm just not sure how
[20:11] <balooo> to look if old packages exist
[20:11] <polyarchive_> glitsj16 -- thanks for the tip -- how do i do that?
[20:11] <polyarchive_> i need very literal directions, i am quite new to linux
[20:11] <polyarchive_> :/
[20:11] <thebwt> polyarchive_: you jsut want to restart it right?
[20:12] <gpayano> Hi
[20:12] <thebwt> if so, all you should need to do,  no matter what dm you use, is run `systemctl restart display-manager`
[20:12] <glitsj16> polyarchive_: ls -l /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service .. and look at the service name it refers to at the end of the result
[20:12] <gpayano> anyone using Virtualbox?
[20:13] <wooster> god no
[20:13] <wooster> no oracle products for me
[20:13] <gpayano> I'm facing an issue
[20:13] <gpayano> what do you recommend for VMs?
[20:13] <polyarchive_> yayyy that worked thebwt!!
[20:13] <polyarchive_> thanks!
[20:13] <thebwt> polyarchive_: np
[20:14] <Dbugger> Hello everyone
[20:14] <Dbugger> I have a small question. Is there any hotkey to move the windows between screens?
[20:15] <tomreyn> balooo: so basically you want to get back from the HWE kernel to the default kernel in 16.04 LTS, i would think
[20:16] <tomreyn> !hwe
[20:18] <tomreyn> balooo: if that's so, you can just: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic; sudo apt-get purge linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[20:19] <arooni> how do i modify set viminfo=%,<1000,'10,/50,:100,h,f1,n~/.viminfo to include marks !@#$%^&* ?
[20:19] <arooni> oops wrong chan
[20:19] <tomreyn> balooo: if you have headers installed, you may want to do the same there.
[20:23] <jscatala> hello! I create user X with home at /home/X. Then I create a user Y with home /home/X and added Y to group X. But Y still not been capable to write into X root
[20:25] <th0r> jscatala, make sure the group has write permissions, once you make sure you want to do this
[20:26] <jscatala> th0r: if I do ls -l all files have X X <filename>
[20:26] <th0r> jscatala, to the right of all that.....(drwxrrwxrwx) those are read,write, and execute permissions for user,group,world
[20:27] <th0r> jscatala, the other right....the left most column
[20:28] <jscatala> th0r: -rwxrwx---
[20:28] <balooo> tomreyn: So installing the 4.8 linux headers package also seems to have resolved the problems.  I'm just not sure if that has any other impacts, or if that's a relatively safe change as it's additive.  Do you know/have any views on that?  So to leave it on 4.10.0-27 and just install linux-headers.4.8 ?
[20:28] <jscatala> th0r: this is enought
[20:29] <th0r> jscatala, then the group should be able to write to that file
[20:29] <th0r> jscatala, for a file, a directory should say drwxrwx---
[20:29] <jscatala> th0r: if I check /etc/group I get X:...:Y
[20:30] <th0r> jscatala, never looked there....not sure what it should say/
[20:30] <jscatala> th0r: sudo chmod a+d pwd ?
[20:30] <th0r> jscatala, no....that is a bad idea I think
[20:30] <th0r> jscatala, what are you trying to do?
[20:33] <tomreyn> balooo: which ubuntu release are you working on?
[20:34] <tomreyn> balooo: kernel 4.8 is not available as an official / supported package for ubuntu 16.04 at this time. so you must have gotten this from elsewhere or built it yourself?
[20:34] <tomreyn> that's if you are on ubuntu 16.04
[20:35] <tomreyn> balooo: so far my understanding was that you would like to downgrade from 4.10 (HWE kernel) to 4.4 (default 16.04 kernel), now how does 4.8 get into play there?
[20:36] <balooo> tomreyn:  no, we need HWE for some aws specific capabilities.  According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=16.04.x+Ubuntu+Kernel+Support+Schedule.svg  there should be a 16.04.2 (v4.8) HWE package available, or at least there was a some time.
[20:36] <balooo> I just don't know how/where to find it.
[20:37] <balooo> I'd be happy to move to HWE 4.4 as well
[20:40] <illmatix> hi, I was just in the process of upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04. I ran in to a problem when i guess it was updating the kernel and my /boot partition was out of space. I since tried to do a clean up like i've done in the past but everytime i try to continue the process it seems to add those images back into the directory. Any ideas how i can do this properly?
[20:41] <tomreyn> balooo: which ubuntu release do you run there?
[20:42] <tomreyn> lsb_release -sd
[20:42] <balooo> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[20:42] <tomreyn> yeay
[20:44] <Dbugger> Noone knows how to move windows between screens?
[20:45] <th0r> Dbugger, I just drag the window from one to the other
[20:45] <glitsj16> Dbugger: https://askubuntu.com/questions/141752/keyboard-shortcut-to-move-windows-between-monitors has a few options
[20:45] <oerheks> rightclick on window > move to workspace
[20:45] <oerheks> or hold winkey for all shortcuts
[20:45] <SimonNL> Dbugger: can't you right click the panel tab and choose that
[20:46] <Dbugger> th0r, Id like a key combination, so that I can be faster than with the mouse
[20:46] <Dbugger> glitsj16, that is a question from 2012. Did it even use Unity?
[20:47] <Dbugger> SimonNL, I would like to be able to do it without touching the mouse
[20:47] <tomreyn> balooo: then your choice is between (a) 16.04.0's default (GA) kernel version 4.4, specifically 4.4.0-21 currently, (b) the HWE kernel, currently 4.10.0-27, and (c) the HWE 'edge' kernel, currently 4.10.0-26
[20:47] <Dbugger> oerheks, I do not what to move it to another workspace. I want to move it to another SCREEN
[20:47] <Dbugger> I have 3 monitors at home
[20:48] <glitsj16> Dbugger: yes, unity as a compiz plugin is still able to use what's on that page, and there's desktop-environment neutral tips as well
[20:49] <tomreyn> balooo: the meta packages linux-image-generic, linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 and linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04-edge allow you to install these easily.
[20:53] <daguz_> How do I get pam to ignore expired password.   I want the password to be able to expire, but a cron job needs to continue running.
[20:54] <oerheks> Dbugger, with compiz manager you can, and choose a personal shortcut http://www.arj.no/2017/01/03/move-windows-ubuntu/
[20:54] <oerheks> enable 'put' , and configure it
[20:58] <illmatix> how can i make space on /boot when trying to finish off a upgrade from 14 to 16 lst when the apt install -f recreates the 3.13.0-x initrd.img-3.13.0.-x-generic and prevents the new kernel from finishing up
[21:00] <balooo> tomreyn: is there no way for me to go back to the HWE kernel 4.4.0-77-generic?
[21:00] <Ben64> 4.4 isn't HWE
[21:00] <glitsj16> illmatix: have you tried purging unneeded kernels + header packages *before* starting the upgrade?
[21:01] <illmatix> glitsj16: well the examples i've seen mention different file names then what i'm seeing in /boot.
[21:01] <illmatix> glitsj16:  this is a vm on our internal server so i'm not sure if the names differe for that
[21:01] <DWSR> Hey all, I'm trying to do an unattended installation of Ubuntu 16.04 via Packer on Hyper-V. When I boot into the Ubuntu installer, it reads my preseed file, but tells me that the CDROM for installation can't be found and then the VM freezes. Is there any way that I can enable additional logging or feedback?
[21:02] <DWSR> Preseed file and Packer template can be found here: https://gist.github.com/DWSR/2d89bc8ca8eb969b4147991eb982cf3f
[21:03] <glitsj16> illmatix: focus on what's in your /boot, there's no difference in package names what apt (the package manager) is concerned
[21:07] <illmatix> glitsj16: well doing a purge on the images that get recreated returns package not found. the names i'm trying to clean is initrd.img-3.13.0-x-generic
[21:07] <boblamont> When I plug a portable USB HD into my laptop running Lubuntu 16.04, it just sort of stops. Sometimes the screen goes black (I think in those cases, it has fallen asleep and won't wake back up), other times, the panel disappears and clicking anything on the desktop makes all the icons on the desktop vanish (the background remains). What's going on?
[21:07] <tomreyn> balooo: what Ben said
[21:08] <croberts> has anyone see where all my gnome extensions are disabled upon restart
[21:08] <croberts> i saw a post about using system default when logging in but didnt help
[21:08] <croberts> it worked for a bit then stopped
[21:08] <croberts> 16.04
[21:09] <tomreyn> balooo: 4.4 is the default 'General Availability' kernel. and going back to that just means installing linux-image-generic and ensuring you actually boot into this kernel by the multiple means available.
[21:11] <illmatix> glitsj16: ahh okay i think i figured it out thanks. :)
[21:11] <glitsj16> illmatix: you'll need to tell apt the exact package names; initrd.img-3.13.0-x-generic suggests linux-image-3.13.0-generic for example.. might be easier to use synaptic if you're not familiar with kernel naming schemes
[21:11] <boblamont> I just right clicked, an openbox menu is there, choosing anything gets a "can't start lxle" type error.
[21:12] <illmatix> glitsj16: yeah this is a remote box with out x so synaptic might not be easy to set up in the current state but i found a awya to remove the headers once i realized the names were a little different
[21:14] <glitsj16> illmatix: yeah, i understand, once you figure that out it should make some space in /boot
[21:14] <illmatix> glitsj16: yeah, the process we were using was only to remove the files in /boot not the actual package that's stored. So that's probably why they were getting repopulated while trying to complete the upgrade
[21:14] <illmatix> Thanks again glitsj16
[21:15] <glitsj16> illmatix: the gist of it being: don't rm files manually or apt won't be aware of it and will try to keep those, no problem :)
[21:15] <illmatix> Yeah, good to note i'll add that to our internal documentation.
[21:29] <doux> Home Backup Question: I tar(ed) my /home/user_name directory and then opened up Virtualbox and replaced the fresh install with my untared directory. Tried to open Firefox to see if all my settings were good. Firefox didn't want to open. What am I not understanding about recovering your home directory???
[21:31] <[n0mad]> do other apps exhibit the same behavior or just firefox?
[21:31] <doux> n0mad: I didn't check. I will check LibreOffice Writer...
[21:32] <doux> n0mad: LibreOffice says my settings are locked?
[21:33] <redviper> you should check permissions between the old home directory and the untared one
[21:33] <doux> I used a different user name... but I thought that it was the number 1000 that mattered...
[21:34] <doux> redviper I made sure that i used tar -cvpzf, but I will check that.
[21:35] <redviper> oh ok; have you tried to launch firefox from command line? maybe it can give a more clear error
[21:36] <DWSR> Hey all, I'm trying to do an unattended installation of Ubuntu 16.04 via Packer on Hyper-V. When I boot into the Ubuntu installer, it reads my preseed file, but tells me that the CDROM for installation can't be found and then the VM freezes. Is there any way that I can enable additional logging or feedback? Preseed file and Packer template can be found here: https://gist.github.com/DWSR/2d89bc8ca8eb969b4147991eb982cf3f
[22:10] <Apachez> where do I disable the bad soundeffect in ubuntu terminal?
[22:10] <Apachez> arrived in 17.04
[22:11] <Apachez> like if I backspace and there is no more chars to remove
[22:12] <[n0mad]> profile preferences > terminal bell
[22:13] <Apachez> but that seems to exist in every software runned in ubuntu
[22:13] <Apachez> is it some global setting?
[22:14] <Apachez> ok terminal bell removed that annoying thing in terminal
[22:14] <Apachez> now lets find it out in other software :(
[22:15] <Apachez> cant find it in hexedit
[22:15] <Apachez> err
[22:15] <Apachez> hexchat
[22:17] <[n0mad]> yeah, not sure, i've never tried disabling it but seems something more ingrained
[22:19] <[n0mad]> Apachez: Settings > Sounds > Sound Effects
[22:27] <dorkmafia> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my dual boot hackintosh/win7 (chameleon bootloader)
[22:27] <dorkmafia> I unplugged my win7/osx drive and I have only one drive installed
[22:27] <dorkmafia> I'm getting this error: "Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location."
[22:28] <Apachez> [n0mad]: they are all empty
[22:28] <Apachez> I still get the same "bell" as I had in the terminal
[22:28] <Apachez> or it sounds more like a muffled drum
[22:28] <dorkmafia> the install usb looks like it booted up the 32 version of the installer but I have an i7 64 bit chip
[22:28] <[n0mad]> i turned sound effects off there and it stopped the sound
[22:28] <dorkmafia> so i'm also confused about that
[22:29] <Apachez> settings -> preferences -> chatting -> sounds  ?
[22:29] <[n0mad]> no, in sound effects. i turned it off in that tab and the sound stopped. of course I had others listed there
[22:30] <Apachez> there is only one there
[22:30] <Apachez> default
[22:30] <Apachez> and it sounds like a waterdrop or ehh so
[22:30] <Apachez> setting alert volume to mute removed that annoying "bell"
[22:32] <Durgeoble> is posble to set 3 configurations to boot ? i use ubuntu in virtual machine from USB in 3 pcs with differents configurations
[22:32] <[n0mad]> yeah, it happens everywhere it seems when you backspace...hexhcat, gedit, terminal. it doesn't bother me at all
[22:35] <Apachez> well I hate that shit :)
[22:35] <Apachez> first thing I do on a wintendo box
[22:35] <Apachez> put the sound theme into "no sounds" :)
[22:36] <Apachez> also funny that the soundbar have a stepsize of 10% or so
[22:37] <Apachez> the one close to the clock (normally upper right)
[22:37] <Apachez> in 17.04 compared to 16.10
[22:40] <Apachez> and whats "repowerd"? seems to lack manpages for that
[22:42] <tomreyn> !info repowerd yakkety
[22:44] <dorkmafia> why does my usb flash drive boot with 32 bit screen?
[22:50] <Apachez> anyone in here with ubuntu 17.04 and cs:go (steam) along with intel gpu?  after upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04 it seems like no textures are runned when entering a game, I see only light and reflections etc
[22:54] <Apachez> this is how the startscreen when entering a game looks like https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/73012/4452215/9f7b948e-4843-11e4-842b-c05a8f4b2e60.png
[23:01] <Apachez> looks like libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386 is involved in this
[23:12] <balooo> Does anyone how to downgrade the hwe kernel ?
[23:13] <oerheks> i guess if you want to undo HWE and return to the 4.4, reinstall
[23:18] <GalzuFromQ> I installed the 4.12 kernel but the server is still booting into the 2.6 kernel!?
[23:18] <GalzuFromQ> Any help would be appreciated.
[23:21] <bipul> When i say orphan packages! it means unused packages?
[23:22] <bipul> I would like to remove orphan packages from distribution.
[23:22] <GalzuFromQ> bipul, https://askubuntu.com/questions/286947/obsolete-packages-vs-orphaned-packages
[23:24] <bipul> GalzuFromQ, Thank you.
[23:24] <oerheks> GalzuFromQ, 2.6 kernel sounds like vagrant
[23:25] <oerheks> no way you run any other kernel on that, ask in the #vagrant channel
[23:26] <balooo> oerhks: but we were using hwe successfully, it's only when it got upgraded to 4.10 from 4.8 that it stopped working for us.
[23:27] <GalzuFromQ> bipul, you're welcome.
[23:27] <GalzuFromQ> oerheks, can you explain please?
[23:28] <oerheks> vagrant is a highly tweaked cloud image, not supported by ubuntu.
[23:28] <oerheks> ask the vagrant channel why they stick to the 2.6.x kernel
[23:29] <bipul> oerheks, Do you know how to install vagrant? I would love to learn about it. :)
[23:29] <oerheks> bipul, why do you ask, i don't support it.
[23:29] <GalzuFromQ> Ok, its a shared virtual server.
[23:31] <bipul> GalzuFromQ, Means, there is difference between VM and Vagrant?
[23:31] <GalzuFromQ> bipul, not sure... I haven't administered a server in a while.
[23:43] <Schnabeltierchen> hello guys, i´m trying to mount a nfs share to my ubuntu 14.04 with autofs, i followed the tutorial on https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Autofs/ with my files like following http://paste.ubuntu.com/25173211/ but sadly, the mountpoint doens´t show any files... what did i wrong
[23:48] <MathWiz> So I have a laptop with i7-7700HQ and planning to install Ubuntu Gnome on it, I also plan to do lots of programming on it, with Multiple IDEs, Browser tabs, PDFs and other programs running ... Should I buy a SATAIII SSD or a PCIe NVMe SSD ?for my laptop ? what is your recommendation ?
[23:59] <dr_horrible> help buffer cycle