[00:00] <ikonia> jbreher: you don't login to the gui as "root"
[00:00] <ikonia> jbreher: the root account is disabled
[00:01] <jbreher> I understand - but when I launch (e.g.) Synaptic, it prompts for pw. I enter, it kicks me. Same pw works in shell
[00:01] <ikonia> jbreher: your user account needs to be a member of the "admin" group
[00:02] <jbreher> ikonia - thanks - I'll check
[00:02] <tbruff13> beandog, what do i do next is that fileit
[00:02] <jbreher> groups reports I am a member of admin
[00:03] <ikonia> jbreher: so if you do "sudo apt-get update" it prompts you for a password and works fine ?
[00:03] <jbreher> ikonia - correct. the shell recognizes the pw. the gui does not
[00:03] <ikonia> jbreher: how are you launching the gui applications ?
[00:04] <ikonia> jbreher: eg: system -> administration menu ?
[00:04] <jbreher> from the menu launcher (e.g. System > Administration > Synaptic...)
[00:04] <ikonia> jbreher: test it "gksudo synaptic"
[00:05] <jbreher> ikonia: you mean launch by entering 'gksudo synaptic' in shell?
[00:05] <ikonia> yes
[00:06] <jbreher> ikonia: prompts for pw, I enter, launches Synaptic in GUI
[00:07] <jbreher> so I guess that is a clue, but now how to fix?
[00:07] <beandog> tbruff13: whats that?
[00:08] <tbruff13> beandog, what do i do after editing the file to finish setting the keys is that it
[00:08] <beandog> tbruff13: oh.  xmodmap .xmodmap file
[00:08] <tbruff13> beandog, ok
[00:08] <beandog> tbruff13: er, xmodmap <filename>
[00:09] <tbruff13> im following a guide and cross checking it aganist yoru advice
[00:09] <tbruff13> i trust you more then some possibly outdated guide
[00:10] <beandog> tbruff13: okay got it, save the config file to ~/.Xmodmap
[00:10] <beandog> tbruff13: that should load it on starting an X11 session
[00:10] <tbruff13> i did that
[00:10] <beandog> tbruff13: k if you dont wanna logout, just run xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[00:10] <tbruff13> beandog, the KDE says set it up with KDE as well
[00:10] <beandog> same effect
[00:11] <beandog> tbruff13: is it not getting set when you login?
[00:11] <tbruff13> beandog, it is not skipping songs in banshee
[00:11] <beandog> tbruff13: does banshee normally work with that?
[00:12] <tbruff13> beandog, in mint it did
[00:12] <tbruff13> in mint every song application i had worked with those keys
[00:13] <tbruff13> beandog, let me finish this guide out for setting it up with KDE before i file a bug
[00:13] <lololjay> will songbird ever be supported again by ubuntu
[00:13] <beandog> tbruff13: check this out too, I gotta run: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Multimedia_Keys
[00:13] <tbruff13> beandog, already did thanks
[00:15] <beandog> tbruff13: np, good luck.  Just worry about getting the keypress events registered first (hittting fn+f12 actually returns a keycode).  Then you can map the keycodes to specific commands
[00:16] <beandog> k I'm outta
[00:16] <MrKeuner> is there a way to see what's new in the package synaptic suggest upgrading?
[00:17] <ldz420> does anyone know of grub repair tool that is loaded on the ubuntu live cd?
[00:17] <PsyberS`> i made a customized livecd (based on the wiki howto) and was wondering what it takes to make ubiquity boot into the desktop, instead of prompting to use the desktop or install (as this cd will be used solely for desktop mode)?
[00:19] <PsyberS`> should i simply remove ubiquity?
[00:19] <jbreher> how can I get GUI to recognize admin/root password?
[00:21] <dem0n> hey guys if i wanted to add an icon to
[00:21] <mkultra_> alt+f2 gksu command
[00:21] <mkultra_> thats directed at jbreher
[00:21] <ZZZyyy> O
[00:21] <mkultra_> go on demon
[00:22] <dem0n> if i wanted to add an icon to my desktop but inorder for the application to run i need to do this on the terminal "mono /path/to/app" for it run, what would i need to put in the command section for the icon (using kde) ?
[00:22] <dem0n> ofcourse i have tried "mono /path/to/app.exe" however it doesn't work...
[00:23] <yyyZZZ> O
[00:23] <jbreher> mkultra: that only seems to work for invocation from shell?
[00:24] <chris_is_me> dem0n: do you have a "
[00:24] <chris_is_me> dem0n: "run in terminal box"
[00:24] <lololjay> can anyone recommend a good music/media player similar to itunes/winamp. I'm really after that cover flow feeling..... i have tried banshee,rhythmbox,gmusicbrowser,gnome player ect... I dont care for the style of any of them it's hard to track down things at times
[00:24] <dem0n> ya i have tried "" for the path to the app and tried it without quotes and it doesn't work...
[00:26] <dem0n> when i added a wine app i did this -> "env WINEPREFIX="/root/.wine" /root/path/to/app.exe and that worked
[00:26] <dem0n> but i am new with mono so i am not really sure what i need to do...?
[00:26] <dem0n> and i would like to add it to
[00:26] <dem0n> and i would like to add this icon to my desktop...
[00:26] <user_____> hey guys, I am trying to edit my sources.list...how can I make the file save? (i am trying to do this out of terminal)
[00:27] <ldz420> you will have to edit it with sudo user___
[00:27] <user_____> lzdz420: how
[00:28] <ldz420> oh sudo gedit sources.list
[00:29] <ntr0py> How can i configure evolution to use multiple separate contact lists? As for now mine behaves like all contact lists are one big one, i cant edit them individualy?!
[00:29] <ldz420> type the password >> the file will open >> edit file>> and save
[00:29] <user_____> lzdz420: but that opens in /home/user/ ...sorry to be a pain...how do i edit the specific file in the directory etc/apt/sources.list
[00:30] <dem0n> do you guys think i should try "run in the terminal" for the icon when i need to run a .exe file with mono?
[00:30] <chris_is_me> user_____: sudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:30] <chris_is_me> dem0n: yes
[00:30] <user_____> chirs_is_me: thank you
[00:30] <ldz420> user__: you have to specify the file location
[00:31] <lololjay> is there a hackintosh server
[00:31] <lololjay> ?
[00:31] <Guest38857> i am still seeing an 11.10 bootscreen despite being on 12.04
[00:32] <Guest38857> fixes?
[00:33] <Fyodorovna> Guest20452, #ubuntu+1 is the channel.
[00:33] <SumoJim> I've found gnome-power-preferences and gnome-session-properties for disabling power managemnt, is there a way to do this from the command line?
[00:33] <Fyodorovna> Guest38857, ^^^
[00:34] <lugsn> cuanta gente .. alguien de argentina ?
[00:35] <Fyodorovna> !es
[00:36] <dem0n> chris_is_me: i will give it a shot, and see if running it a terminal and see if it works...
[00:37] <chris_is_me> dem0n: good luck
[00:37] <lugsn> ok ! ,
[00:38] <zykotick9> !gksu | chris_is_me user_____
[00:40] <keithzz> Still wasn't able to find PL2303X driver for ubuntu..Anyone found it?
[00:40] <chris_is_me> zykotick9: i figured it wasn't excatly a graphical app
[00:41] <zykotick9> chris_is_me: gedit?  what would it be ;)
[00:41] <chris_is_me> zykotick9: oh ya that, lol i anways just use sudo instead of gksu never had issues
[00:42] <zykotick9> chris_is_me: it's a bad idea, and could bite you in future.  certainly, that is a !wfm situation.
[00:42] <zykotick9> !wfm | chris_is_me
[00:42] <chris_is_me> zykotick9: could be bad, only time i really use sudo is for apt and gedit
[00:44] <ntr0py> How can i delete an address book in evolution?
[00:49] <A-KO^^> I'm trying to use a command line media player, is that possible? mplayer is saying cannot find libgl something or another.
[00:49] <dem0n> hmm...it didn't work when i tried to run the application that needs mono "in a terminal"
[00:49] <dem0n> i am trying to add an icon for a .exe program that needs "mono" inorder for it be executed
[00:50] <phn> A-KO^^: use cvlc , provided u have vlc installed
[00:51] <dem0n> when i cd into the dir and run "mono app.exe" it loads no problem, but when i try to add an icon so i can run the app.exe from my desktop i tels me tells me that files are not found and these are files that are in the directory that has the .exe app, does anyone have any ideas on how i can add this program to a desktop (for a shortcut) ?
[00:51] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: in Xorg or in console?  try "mplayer -vo xv foo.file" and/or "mplayer -vo x11 file.foo" as a test.
[00:52] <GhostConn> I'm tryign to resolve a minor problem hear.. I'm having black splash/boot screens ever since I installed ubuntu 11:10.I have even tried a third party application called splash screen manager, I have installed them correctly with the terminal no problem however, They work when i shut down my pc jsut not during start up
[00:52] <GhostConn> what could cause this?
[00:53] <dem0n> for some reason it keeps looking for the files that are in the directory that has the app.exe which i am trying to add to my desktop when i click on the icon it tells me that i can't find the files but it is looking for the files in /root/Documents
[00:53] <dem0n> anyone have any ideas?
[00:53] <phn> GhostConn do you want text boot?
[00:53] <A-KO^^> zykotick9: no show on that
[00:54] <A-KO^^> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:54] <A-KO^^> vlc plays but doesn't quit
[00:54] <A-KO^^> I need to play something and exit when done
[00:54] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: what graphics card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[00:55] <phn> ctrl+c?
[00:55] <GhostConn> I want a graphical custom boot screen.  i have splash screen manager installed and a ton of splash screens to choose from. My problem is they work when i shutdown my computer but when i boot it up I get a black screen until it reaches the login screen
[00:55] <A-KO^^> ATI RV350 zykotick9
[00:55] <CFHowlett> GhostConn   you have to update initramfs
[00:56] <A-KO^^> Mobility Radeon 9600 M10
[00:56] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: damb.  Sorry i can't help any further - good luck.
[00:56] <phn> use vlc, ctrl+c to exit
[00:56] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: FYI it seems you have OpenGL issues
[00:56] <CFHowlett> GhostConn   see http://laptopny.us/ubuntu-tips/how-to-change-login-screen-background-on-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-10-04
[00:57] <GhostConn> I have done that I used this command after choosing what boot screen i wanted ........     sudo update-initramfs -u
[00:57] <GhostConn> i followed this guide step by step http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/install-plymouth-manager-and-change.html
[00:57] <jesco> how can i add open as admin in 12.04???  -no nautilus gksu in 12.04
[00:57] <GhostConn> like i said they are working only when i shutdown tho?
[00:57] <orudie> which tool for windows can I use to burn .iso to USB in order to install it ? Download link please ?
[00:57] <A-KO^^> zykotick9: I'm aware, but I don't want to actually launch a visible player--I want something that will play without a gui, no curses, no gui, no nothing. Play file then quit.
[00:58] <jesco> i am trying to 'open as admin' in nautilus 12.04... totally stumped
[00:58] <GhostConn> type gksudo nautilus into you're terminal
[00:58] <GhostConn> gksudo nautilus
[00:59] <zykotick9> GhostConn: (i don't really want to get involved but) i've experienced seeing plymouth on shutdown but not startup with 10.04 with nvidia drivers, messing with grub resolutions and possible custom framebuffer stuff might help.  good luck.
[00:59] <ntr0py> Is it somehow possible to delete an address book in evolution?
[00:59] <jesco> grassy-ass!
[00:59] <legilson> ubuntero
[00:59] <jesco> gracias!
[00:59] <GhostConn> hmmmm... im stumped lol... I'm running a ati 4870
[01:00] <CFHowlett> orudie   http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[01:00] <GhostConn> thanks for the help tho greatly appreciated
[01:00] <zykotick9> A-KO^^: that's how i would describe mplayer's (mplayer-nogui in my case) default behaviour - but you got ATI issues :(
[01:00] <CFHowlett> !precise|jesco
[01:01] <phn> A-KO^^ what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say?
[01:02] <pedrolucasp> Hello, can anyone give me some links about how to integrate an app to the Message Menu?
[01:02] <jesco> ubottu: yeh, i know just trying to figure out a coupla things ;)  this distro is WAY different than 10.04!!!
[01:03] <PenguinLover> evening, everyone
[01:04] <CFHowlett> PenguinLover   greetings
[01:04] <PenguinLover> CFHowlett, and to you...so, what's the latest and greatest?
[01:05] <CFHowlett> PenguinLover   counting the days to 12.04  - whatcha need help on this fine day?
[01:06] <pedrolucasp> PenguinLover, Greetings
[01:06] <phn> anyone out there using xmonad?
[01:08] <PenguinLover> CFHowlett, nothing, actually...just watching the conversation roll by, to see what i can learn...also looking forward to pangolin, to throw on to test netbook, and see if the HUD is a step forward or back..if the focus is towards mobile devices and tv platforms is the focus (as unity led me to believe), then i do have my doubts...but that aside, always exciting...have a countdown timer on me phone (me="nerd!!")
[01:09] <PenguinLover> pedrolucasp, hey...what's new and exciting?
[01:10] <zykotick9> !anyone | phn i doubt many people here, might want to try #xmonad
[01:11] <blez> I'm trying ot install libwebkitgtk on ubuntu 10.10
[01:12] <blez> but I can't find a good link
[01:14] <PenguinLover> blez, not in the repos?
[01:15] <blez> I can't find it in the repos
[01:15] <pedrolucasp> PenguinLover, Precise Pangolin, and Android development, oh btw, I hate Java. :)
[01:15] <PenguinLover> blez, you did apt-cache search?
[01:16] <blez> I'm new to linux
[01:16] <blez> what is that?
[01:16] <triscuit> what's a command to find some basic info on a file?
[01:16] <zykotick9> triscuit: "file example.foo" ?
[01:16] <GhostConn> how come the search bar in my ubuntu software centre is gone
[01:17] <triscuit> no, am trying to chech the size of two archives
[01:18] <zykotick9> triscuit: "ls -l file.foo" ?
[01:19] <Shadow__X> hello everyone, I am having issues with the sky2 driver in ubuntu. For months it has worked without an issue and after a reboot now its having issues negotiating gigabyte speeds and at times working with the network. I already tried swapping ethernet cables with known good cables (using cables i made and premade bought cables). It is connected to a gigabyte switch any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
[01:19] <PenguinLover> pedrolucasp, whyso, the java nolove?
[01:20] <triscuit> thanks
[01:20] <triscuit> thanks zykotick9
[01:20] <PenguinLover> blez, open a terminal, and type 'apt-cache search libwebkitgtk' and see what you get
[01:21] <PenguinLover> blez, (sorry don't have a maverick system to try it out on)
[01:21] <zykotick9> triscuit: fyi, i'd typically use "ls -sh file.foo"
[01:22] <beebee> hi
[01:22] <pedrolucasp> PenguinLover, I really need to say? hahahaha
[01:22] <beebee> my laptop keeps crashing to logon
[01:22] <beebee> how do i find out why?
[01:22] <hoshi> can anyone suggest a tv pci card that will work well with ubuntu?
[01:22] <hoshi> i want to try mythbuntu
[01:22] <hoshi> live tv streeming
[01:23] <hoshi> and recording
[01:23] <hoshi> but i don't have  a tv adaptor for my pc
[01:23] <KILLSIG> pedrolucasp, prolly naught..
[01:23] <hoshi> should I just go with a tv to usb adaptor or a pci card?
[01:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> !register
[01:24] <guybrushsantiago> Noob in distress: custom script runs correctly from terminal but shows "not found" if run with sudo
[01:24] <PenguinLover> guybrushsantiago, more details, please?
[01:25] <hoshi411> i wanna try mythbuntu but don't know which pci card runs linux?
[01:25] <hoshi411> i wanna try live tv streaming and recording
[01:25] <hoshi411> should I go with a tv to usb adaptor or a pci card?
[01:25] <PenguinLover> hoshi411, check with manufacturer?
[01:26] <hoshi411> manufacturer of what? O_o
[01:26] <hoshi411> just wanted to know if anyone here has experience with tv?
[01:26] <hoshi411> if so, would like to know what you are using
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> guybrushsantiago: check your paths
[01:26] <guybrushsantiago> PenguinLover: I creted a script, put it under /home/me/bin (it's in the path). If I run "$ myScript" it works. If I do "$ sudo myScript" it fails with "sudo: myScript: commant not found"
[01:27] <CFHowlett> hoshi411   see this for the right channel: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IRC
[01:27] <hoshi411> ah ok thanks
[01:27] <zykotick9> hoshi411: i use a hauppauge 1600 for O.T.A. HD recording with mythtv (but it's an older hard with an analog input as well).  The remote on this model has been messed up for far too long :(  but i'd suggest you get a card over usb myself.
[01:28] <hoshi411> zykotick9: thanks : )
[01:28] <PenguinLover> guybrushsantiago, did you try with ./myScript?
[01:29] <guybrushsantiago> PenguinLover: From the folder of the script? I want it to be available from anywhere
[01:29] <guybrushsantiago> PenguinLover: (it does work that way)
[01:30] <guybrushsantiago> PenguinLover: I guess I should add the folder to .bashrc from the /root folder
[01:31] <no-name-> if you get a .png file with a program's source code that's for its launcher icon, where should I (or where does sudo make install) put it?
[01:31] <dem0n> hey guys sorry i can not find anything on google on how to add a windows app.exe which needs "mono" to load, to the kde desktop...?
[01:33] <zykotick9> no-name-: if you know the name of the package you got it from "dpkg -L foo" you might even be able to "dpkg -L foo | grep png"
[01:33] <no-name-> it wasn't from a package, I compiled it
[01:34] <dem0n> when i try to add this in the command section fo the kde icon properties "sh -c "mono /path/to/app.exe" it tells me that it can't find files which are in the app's directory , but it tells me it can't find those files in "/root/documents", why os it looking for those files in the directory /root/documents  it makes no sense?
[01:34] <zykotick9> no-name-: ahh - no idea then.  good luck.
[01:34] <no-name-> it probably put it somewhere anyway, I'll do a search for it
[01:36] <kparaju> Does anyone know of any minimalistic word processor? Something like TextRoom but with a little bit more GUI?
[01:37] <CrustyTheRusty> hi guys, just a quick question: whats the best pdf editor for ubuntu?
[01:37] <CFHowlett> CrustyTheRusty   i've edited in gimp and inkscape
[01:37] <CrustyTheRusty> ok, thanks :)
[01:37] <Joe580> thanks for help in advance... Linux Rookie have installed ubunutu on a laptop with a 80% broken dead screen / install worked but I cannot figure out how to get second monitor configured // suggestions?
[01:38] <haz3lnut> CrustyTheRusty: Editor?
[01:38] <CrustyTheRusty> editor yes, something that can edit the pdfs... i'm basically looking for an Acrobat alternative
[01:38] <haz3lnut> CrustyTheRusty: gscan2pdf allows to extract specific pages from multiple page PDFs
[01:39] <pedrolucasp> PenguinLover, Someone knows a better Page/Wiki/Article for the App Indicator/Messaging Menu?
[01:39] <CFHowlett> CrustyTheRusty   you extract individual pages in gimp as well
[01:39] <CrustyTheRusty> ok, i'll try them out :)
[01:39] <CrustyTheRusty> thank you!
[01:40] <haz3lnut> CFHowlett: didn;t know gimp could do that. ty
[01:40] <PenguinLover> kparaju, strict text..i like kate, but i just realized that textpad also works with wine
[01:41] <CFHowlett> haz3lnut   yep, I just did a 4 page doc that way!
[01:41] <Joe580> broken screen - i have 2 inches of screen realestate, how would you configure second monitor in this situation ubuntu 11.10 / (prefarably in terminal)?
[01:42] <sammmy> does /tmp automatically get garbage collected?
[01:43] <kparaju> sammmy, IIRC it is cleared every reboot.
[01:44] <sammmy> kparaju: and if your server doesn't reboot?
[01:44] <kparaju> PenguinLover, Thanks will take a look. But looks like both are centered towards coding more than word processing.
[01:44] <hythlodaeus> hello
[01:44] <hythlodaeus> i need some help
[01:44] <hythlodaeus> having a bit of problem here
[01:44] <PenguinLover> kparaju, i misunderstood then...what exactly are you looking to do?
[01:45] <kparaju> sammmy, http://askubuntu.com/a/20787
[01:45] <hythlodaeus> i'm actually on xubuntu, but i've had the same problem with my previous ubuntu installation
[01:45] <kparaju> PenguinLover, A minimal word processor.
[01:45] <hythlodaeus> essentially my system completely freezes at unspecified times
[01:45] <kparaju> There is too much stuff going on in LibreOffice or any other word processor.
[01:45] <hythlodaeus> does anyone knows a cause for this?
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> hythlodaeus: overheating, bad ram, untested repos?
[01:46] <kparaju> PenguinLover, I am basically looking for something that does this (http://jhollingworth.github.com/bootstrap-wysihtml5/)
[01:46] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down to a halt
[01:46] <a1fa> anyone seen anything similar
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> kparaju: I grabbed one from KDE awhile back that was small and decent
[01:47] <hythlodaeus> that's a bit of a grim scenario on the hardware part... but it's usually random
[01:47] <hythlodaeus> i doubt it's overheating
[01:47] <dem0n> okay here is my situation, i just added a windows icon which needs "mono" inorder for it to load, when i tried to add an icon using this under the command section i added this "mono /path/to/app.exe" and when i try to run it, an alert box pops up and says "can find file /root/bla.txt and i don't understand why it is looking for those files under /root and i even tried with the icon "run in a terminal" and did "sh -c /path/to/app.exe" and i get the same erro
[01:47] <hythlodaeus> it never happened while i was playing a game for instance. only when doing simple stuff on desktop
[01:47] <dem0n> (which are the files that are part of the app) but it says it can't find the files in /root ?
[01:47] <PenguinLover> kparaju, sorry, i'm being dense...kompozer is what you're looking for?
[01:48] <hythlodaeus> i'm dual booting with winxp btw
[01:48] <dem0n> so does anyone here know how to add an icon for a windows app.exe which needs "mono to load
[01:48] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down to a halt
[01:48] <CFHowlett> hythlodaeus   does it act up in winxp?
[01:48] <a1fa> slow on AC power, fast on battery
[01:49] <hythlodaeus> nope. everything is fine on winxp
[01:49] <hythlodaeus> only happens on ubuntu
[01:49] <kparaju> PenguinLover, no.. not really. Thanks for the help though. I tried searching it for a bit but could not find it so came here.
[01:49] <ntr0py> Where does evolution store the addressbooks?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> kparaju: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_%28text_editor%29
[01:50] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   .evolution/addressbook
[01:50] <kparaju> Jack_Sparrow, Kate is more of a text editor for code than word processor. I'm looking for something that can do bold, underline, center etc.
[01:51] <ntr0py> CFHowlett there is no directory ~/.evolution on my ubuntu 11.04
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ntr0py: . means hidden
[01:51] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   ntr0py ctrl h will display hidden folders
[01:52] <PenguinLover> kparaju, maybe lynx is what you're looking for?
[01:52] <ntr0py> Jack_Sparrow, CFHowlett: "ls ~/.evolution" no such file or directory
[01:52] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   try ls .evolution
[01:53] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down to a halt -_-
[01:53] <ntr0py> CFHowlett its really not there
[01:53] <Wildbat> is there a way to install adobe arcobat reader on 10.04 64bit?
[01:53] <kparaju> PenguinLover, isn't lynx a web browser? I'm looking for something like LibreOffice writer but more lightweight.
[01:53] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   locate .evolution shows it - but I AM in 10.04?
[01:54] <smw> kparaju, libreoffice is the best one.
[01:54] <smw> kparaju, it is not worth getting something light weight
[01:54] <Joe580> thoughts on configuring dual display in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:54] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down to a halt -_-
[01:55] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: i only want to delete an addressbook but evolution wont let me
[01:55] <a1fa> it did it in 10.04, 10.11, 11.04
[01:55] <a1fa> its not version induced
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kparaju:  did you look at geany
[01:55] <a1fa> some kind of power saving profile or something
[01:55]  * PenguinLover agrees with smw..feels like we're dancing around the issue/don't have enough info...what exactly are you looking to do?
[01:55] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   did locate .evolution work?
[01:56] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook.service and /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Calendar.service
[01:56] <cvillavicencio> alo franco?
[01:56] <telcnas_> a
[01:56] <CFHowlett> !fr|cvillavicencio
[01:57] <kparaju> Jack_Sparrow, will take a look at it. Thanks.
[01:57] <a1fa> hey guys.. i got a wierd laptop problem... if i unplug ac power adapter, and run on battery.. its fast... mouse moves fast.. plug ac in, and it slows down..
[01:57] <Sevith> a1fa, ? Weird..
[01:57] <a1fa> no doubt
[01:58] <cvillavicencio> !es|cvillavicencio
[01:58] <Sevith> a1fa, What kind of laptop?
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> alfa does it do it instantly or take a few minutes
[01:58] <kparaju> a1fa, I would file a bug report. I am not sure what files you will need to include in the bug report, but you can ask it in your bug report. Also, give full information about your laptop (make/model/how old) etc.
[01:58] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: do you know of any way to delete evolutions addressbook without deinstalling it?
[01:58] <kparaju> and a1fa, does it occur w/ a plain installation of ubuntu?
[01:58] <a1fa> anyway to compare charge profile
[01:58] <a1fa> yes
[01:59] <Wildbat> is there a way to install adobe acrobat reader on 10.04 64bit?
[02:00] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   again 10.04 here.  Were it me, I'd create a new addressbook and switch to that.  Then I'd delete the previous one either via nautilus or command line.  YMMV.
[02:00] <Sevith> Wildbat, You can goto the adobe website and get the .deb to install
[02:01] <a1fa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818830
[02:01] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: how do i switch to an addressbook?
[02:01] <jodesj777> what is the command to echo the ubuntu version i am running ?
[02:01] <invisiblek> cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:02] <Sevith> Wildbat, http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/
[02:02] <Sevith> jodesj777, cat /etc/issue
[02:02] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   I think it's Evolution>Preferences>Contacts ..
[02:02] <droidfellow> hello all have a issue installing ubuntu 11.10 had a blank screen so at the grub i press "e" delete quiet and plash type nomodeset and reboot, now i get a black screen filled with words
[02:03] <a1fa> crazy
[02:03] <Wildbat> Sevith, i tried but the package are for 32 bit :|
[02:03] <kparaju> a1fa, Looks like the bug will be fixed and included in 12.04
[02:03] <Sevith> Wildbat, Should still work..? Have you tried installing the 32bit?
[02:04] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: thanks, but there none of the blocked addressbooks is checked?
[02:04] <Wildbat> Sevith, ya ~ it said wrong architecture
[02:06] <droidfellow> this is what i get "loading, please wait..begin: loading essential drivers..done begin: running /scripts/init-premount..done begin:mount root file system done begin: running/scripts/local top-done then screen is blank
[02:06] <ntr0py> CFHowlett, do you know which files i should delete for an addressbook?
[02:07] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   kill .evolution will wipe all mail, addresses and calendars
[02:07] <Sevith> Wildbat, http://www.adobe.com/products/reader.html
[02:07] <Sevith> Wildbat, idk what to tell you if those dont work? Bug? idk...
[02:08] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   ... but I'm mystified why your .evolution/addressbook didn't show up.
[02:08] <CFHowlett> ...especially via nautilus with hidden files viewable
[02:08] <Guest02697> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:09] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: i have ~/.local/share/evolution and ~/.config/evolution
[02:10] <CFHowlett> ntr0py  completely different arrangement than mine, I see no .evolution in .local/share
[02:10] <CFHowlett> sorry, but IDK
[02:11] <hopstafarian> kparaju, would love to try to help, but don't unnerstand the questions, and has to go...another time, then...
[02:12] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: i tried to delete  ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/* but that had no effect at all...
[02:12] <diskinetic> I'm using gnome. Is there any way to change/remove the Google and Wikipedia search bubbles from the desktop?
[02:13] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   as I said, you've got something very different from mine...I would suspect that the .share is visible to all users.  Have you *created* a new addressbook for your user account?
[02:14] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: i created several local addressbooks because i wanted to migrate vcards from old to new mobile phone, now i have those empty local addressbooks sitting there and i cant delete them
[02:15] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   #evolution might have answers.  Otherwise, consider apt-get purge evolution then reinstalling.
[02:15] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: also strange is that i could not use them individually, all behaved like a big one ...
[02:16] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   see #evolution - it's over my head  :~
[02:16] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: on which server?
[02:16] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   freenode iirv
[02:16] <CFHowlett> *iirc*
[02:17] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: that seems to be somehow locked/reserved for future use... thanks anyways for your help
[02:17] <CFHowlett>    ntr0py http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1341772
[02:21] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: thanks that is exactly what i tried
[02:23] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: that deleted the contacts but not the addressbook entries
[02:23] <tosh> simple scan doesn't recognize my multifuncional MFC-J280w Brother wifi via network suggestions?
[02:24] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: do you know if thunderbird or alternatives are better/less buggy?
[02:24] <digitard> where do I configure vino? specifically need to turn off listening on 5800
[02:25] <Pasq89> when i start my laptop, without power supply plugged in, then my maximum frequency stacks at 800mhz. that cool 'n quiet thing is enabled, and i cant select a higher frequency. so how can i disable cool 'n quiet?
[02:26] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   sorry, I've only used evolution - will have to change soon as ubuntustudio 12.04 uses xfce
[02:26] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   I've heard good things about thunderbird
[02:26] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: thanks i will try that instead
[02:27] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   good luck - sorry I couldn't help with an exact answer
[02:27] <ntr0py> CFHowlett: thanks anyways for your kind assistance
[02:27] <CFHowlett> ntr0py   have fun / be safe
[02:28] <Pasq89> anybody knows? cool 'n quiet is enabled when i start my laptop w/o power supply. And exists till i restart(and plug it in before it boots). is there a option to disable that annoying thing?
[02:29] <Lirth> I'm building my own desktop and was wondering if anyone had some recommendations for DVD drives that worked well with Ubuntu.
[02:31] <drbrownbear> Lirth: Most of them should work fine
[02:31] <Lirth> drbrownbear: So there won't be any weird comparability things for the majority?
[02:32] <drbrownbear> I personally have had good experince with lite-on drives; but I'm not a heavy DVD user or burner
[02:32] <Lirth> drbrownbear: That's good to hear, I'm looking at a lite-on drive.
[02:34] <drbrownbear> Lirth:  You should be fine regardless of the brand you get. Support for fancier things like lightscribe is a different issue altogether though
[02:34] <Shadow__X> hello everyone, I am having issues with the sky2 driver in ubuntu. For months it has worked without an issue and after a reboot now its having issues negotiating gigabyte speeds and at times working with the network. I already tried swapping ethernet cables with known good cables (using cables i made and premade bought cables). It is connected to a gigabyte switch any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
[02:35] <Lirth> drbrownbear: I've never used lightscribe, even on the computers capable. I don't like the idea of buying the special disks when basic ones that I can write on will work fine.
[02:36] <dem0n> hmmm i got the app.exe which needs "mono" to run from an icon i created on my desktop however i had to do "sh -c "cd /path/to/app && mono app.exe" and it opens a terminal and then opens the app.exe, now i am wondering if it is possible to do it without a terminal?
[02:36] <dem0n> anyone have any suggestions ?
[02:37] <Hail_Spacecake> how do I put the stock ubuntu .iso on a usb drive?
[02:37] <Hail_Spacecake> to boot from it?
[02:37] <Lirth> Hail_Spacecake: What OS are you running?
[02:38] <Sevith> Slax
[02:38] <Hail_Spacecake> arch linux
[02:38] <Hail_Spacecake> so I don't have access to ubuntu's tools for that
[02:38] <Hail_Spacecake> btu I thought you didn't need those anymroe
[02:38] <drbrownbear> Hail_Spacecake: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:39] <Hail_Spacecake> ah, thanks
[02:39] <Hail_Spacecake> that's it
[02:40] <dem0n> well never mind guys i got it to work...
[02:40] <dem0n> it took some adjustments, and some trial and error but i finally got it working!
[02:40] <Lirth> dem0n: How did you do it?
[02:41] <dem0n> well one way to do it is this...
[02:42] <dem0n> sh -c "/path/to/windows/app && mono windows-app.exe" and you check the option "run as terminal"
[02:42] <dem0n> but if you don't want to do it do this:
[02:42] <dem0n> in the section "workspace path" you put the directory where the .exe file is /path/to/windows/app
[02:43] <dem0n> and then in the command section i put -> mono app.exe
[02:48] <Sevith> Its...quiet...?
[02:49] <CFHowlett> Sevith   means everyone has a working machine  :)
[02:50] <Amin> hi. Justin Bieber talking here.
[02:51] <Sevith> CFHowlett, haha
[02:51] <digitard> i don't
[02:51] <mun> hi
[02:51] <mun> could someone recommend a VoIP softphone?
[02:51] <Sevith> I once tipped a jar that said, "If you tip, Justin Beiber dies a littler."
 Freezes when I shut down. I remember having this issue before and I had to run something to unload one of my modules, possibly sound, before shutdown.. But can't remember what it might have been or what to do, any pointers?
[03:00] <almoxarife> Amin: was that a question?
[03:00] <Amin> all righty then
[03:00] <Amin> conv over
[03:01] <Amin> brb
[03:01] <Sevith> ChapterNZ, Make a bash script that runs on shutdown to unload the modules? idk
[03:01] <almoxarife> Amin: take your time
[03:01] <ChapterNZ> well yeh, that's what I will probably have to do
[03:01] <ChapterNZ> but I can't remember what was the actual cause of the lock up
[03:02] <ChapterNZ> don't know what logs I should be looking at or how to track it down
[03:02] <Amin> fuck that faggot Justin Bieber
[03:02] <Sevith> ...
[03:03] <almoxarife> android users are angry types?
[03:03] <Sevith> I guess...
[03:03] <schl0ng> looks like it.
[03:05] <mike> is there a way i can use the mic slot as a headphone slot?
[03:15] <Hail_Spacecake> hm
[03:15] <Hail_Spacecake> does ubuntu by default have gparted installed on it?
[03:16] <Fyodorovna> Hail_Spacecake, no
[03:16] <Fyodorovna> Hail_Spacecake, the live cd does thogh
[03:16] <Fyodorovna> *though
[03:18] <Patrick_DJ> Hail_Spacecake: Maybe you need to install it manually yourself.
[03:18] <Hail_Spacecake> I want to have a linux distro with gparted already installed on it to have on a usb drive
[03:18] <Hail_Spacecake> so if the 10.11 .iso I downloaded has it already that's fine
[03:20] <xangua> Hail_Spacecake: sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:21] <xangua> Hail_Spacecake: the live cd/session have it, if you want a persistent usb install you can also install gparted later
[03:24] <GhostConn> im having trouble with the playstation 3 media server... i cannot add my media because all of it is located on two ntfs drives
[03:24] <GhostConn> anyone know a way around this
[03:26] <sammmy> I'm using upstart 0.6.6 what's the latest version?
[03:26] <chroot> hi, how can i grep the keyword "Authentication Failure" in a file?
[03:26] <chroot> i typed "grep "Authentication Failure", it dosen't work.
[03:31] <GhostConn> wow this is one clean server
[03:31] <GhostConn> ...
[03:32] <forbidden404> Hi, there, my partition cannot be read/writed, I cant give the permission ): I tried to mount in a folder in media, and it works, but I only can access, I tried to change the permission using nautilus, and he said that I don't have the rights to change this, even in the file, where I mounted the hd with rw option
[03:32] <forbidden404> what should I do?
[03:33] <wylde> chroot: grep "my phrase" /path/to/file.txt
[03:33] <GhostConn> put you're linux instilation disc into you're computer and format the partition to ext3
[03:34] <GhostConn> do a complete reinstall
[03:34] <step21> forbidden404: some more info ... what file system? from which system are you trying it?
[03:34] <forbidden404> ntfs
[03:34] <forbidden404> Im using Ubuntu 11.10
[03:34] <forbidden404> but the partition I createad with Windows,
[03:34] <forbidden404> created*
[03:34] <GhostConn> or try this command in you're terminal     gksudo nautilus
[03:34] <forbidden404> ok, i'll check
[03:34] <GhostConn> that will give you full control over nautilus
[03:35] <wylde> 8nix permissions don't work on NTFS volumes.
[03:35] <wylde> *nix
[03:35] <step21> forbidden404: did it automount before?
[03:35] <forbidden404> yep, automount, but there's no permissions to read and write
[03:35] <forbidden404> Sorry, could not change the permissions of "Forbidden404": Error setting permissions: Read-only file system
[03:36] <wylde> !ntfs | forbidden404
[03:36] <forbidden404> !NTFS-3g
[03:37] <superdave321> How do I install drivers and such from the live disk as if I were booted to the root drive?
[03:38] <newhaskeller> Hi. I have Ubuntu 11.10 running on a macbook (13 inch white) as the sole OS. I cannot get wifi or cable connectivity on it. lscpci -v output is here (http://pastebin.com/4WjCHMZz). I just downloaded the firmware-b43-installer and the b43-fwcutter deb files but cannot install it. Could someone help me on how to install this firmware so I can get a wireless up
[03:40] <newhaskeller> I also raised a 250 point bounty on askubuntu for the issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[03:40] <wylde> !macbook | newhaskeller
[03:41] <CatalanGuy> hi
[03:43] <CatalanGuy> hei running Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits with 2 virtual machines how much RAM do I need to get a decent speed?
[03:43] <zackattack> hey guys..
[03:43] <newhaskeller> anyone?
[03:45] <superdave321> CatalanGuy: Try #ubuntu+1 for support of future releases.
[03:46] <zackattack> anyone have troubles install mysql-server-5.1 on 10.4?
[03:47] <atpa8a> hmm
[03:47] <superdave321> How do I install drivers and such on a preinstalled system from the live disk?
[03:48] <atpa8a> why would ubuntu say 'Starting OpenSSH Server [OK]' followed by 'Stopping OpenSSH Server [OK]' for every NIC or alias during boot?
[03:48] <atpa8a> any remedy?
[03:49] <newhaskeller> In the b43 docs at Ubuntu documentation, it is written "b43-fwcutter is located on the Ubuntu install media under ../pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter/ and patch is located under ../pool/main/p/patch/ or both in the official repositories online."
[03:49] <newhaskeller> where is the pool directory?
[03:51] <dannek71> hey alll
[03:52] <escapeplan> Hello there dudes :D
[03:52] <sacarlson> atpa8a: one for system startup and one for system shutdown?  or is this what you see when you manually restart?
[03:57] <forbidden404> Guys, I found a way in that !ntfs-3g, I used the ntfs-config to remount with the read/write permission
[03:57] <superdave321> Is it chown that can make a live disk environment act like it owns the files of a disk? Or is it something else...
[03:59] <zykotick9> superdave321: do you want to install things on a hard drive from the livecd?
[03:59] <superdave321> zykotick9: Yes
[04:00] <zykotick9> superdave321: chroot is what you want - grub2 link has some chroot instructions you might want to see
[04:00] <zykotick9> !grub2 | superdave321
[04:00] <superdave321> zykotick9: Thanks!
[04:00] <atpa8a> debootstrap man page has a nice example of how to enter chroot
[04:00] <sacarlson> forbidden404: what does it do default to read only now?
[04:01] <forbidden404> sacarlson: I guess I should re-open the ntfs-config, remount the partition without the permission, I guess
[04:02] <wawawee> http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg163/scaled.php?server=163&filename=screenshot0321201212004.png&res=medium <= This icon will not delete =[ right click = Launch \ Properties... sigh
[04:03] <dannek71> anyone in here have trouble getting vm player to work after upgrading Ubunut?
[04:06] <Shadow__X> anyone?
[04:11] <JermBob> hey there
[04:11] <JermBob> does irssi log by default  ?
[04:13] <Black> i get a error "sub items errors: 3502" while extracting a 533 Mb zip file, google didnt help me
[04:14] <cocoading> password protection?
[04:14] <Black> no
[04:15] <lifestream> Oh dear Ubuntians, is it possible to set notify-send to the center (heck, anywhere except top-left) of the screen? I keep missing notifications because I'm looking at the bottom right of the screen ;) And my notifications are neon green! :P
[04:15] <Ghrim> Can someone tell me what the default cursor theme is in *buntu?
[04:15] <JermBob> how can i enable logging in irssi then ?
[04:19] <mi3> Hello!
[04:23] <lifestream> JermBob:  inside irssi type:  /set autolog_level = all -crap -clientcrap -ctcps   I believe that's correct, just saw on irssi docs
[04:24] <JermBob> lifestream:  thanks, does it log to a file ?
[04:28] <lifestream> JermBob:  http://irssi.org/documentation/manual  Search: Automatic logging  .. I'm actually reading it now myself.. :)
[04:28] <JermBob> thanks mate
[04:28] <JermBob> will do
[04:31] <fam>  /fs beginner_help
[04:39] <curiousx> salut a tout le monde
[04:39] <curiousx> !fr | curiousx
[04:40] <scottj> anyone know if ubuntu has an app for adding music/videos to the ipad3? does banshee support it?
[04:42] <isaac__> Hi all, I have a question I would be grateful if anyone would be kind enough to answer; When setting up a router, the default is usually <IP_ADDRESS>, but sometimes it's <IP_ADDRESS> what is that number called (the 0 and 1 part that changes) and why can't I connect to something else like a wireless access point if that number is different. Thank you if you can answer this or point me in the right direction :)
[04:43] <isaac__> Hi all, I have a question I would be grateful if anyone would be kind enough to answer; When setting up a router, the default is usually <IP_ADDRESS>, but sometimes it's <IP_ADDRESS> what is that number called (the 0 and 1 part that changes) and why can't I connect to something else like a wireless access point if that number is different. Thank you if you can answer this or point me in the right direction :) (sorry if I sent this already, my
[04:43] <isaac__> internet is acting wacky so I don't think it went through...)
[04:44] <fam>  /fs beginner_help
[04:44] <sacarlson> isaac__: that would be the default gateway address,  it should be setup auto when dhcp is set active
[04:45] <ome> `dsmesg` give just a hand full of `[ 1563.575619] evbug: Event. Dev: input3, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
[04:45] <ome> what that exactly means ?
[04:45] <terminhell> isaac__:  are you actually connected to the router? as in, given a wep/wpa password etc
[04:46] <fragrant> When i click a partition from nautilus it's mounted, which package is responsible for this?
[04:46] <isaac__> Yeah I'm actually connected to the router
[04:46] <fragrant> Which option/settings does that for click and mount?
[04:46] <ome> !xy > fragrant
[04:46] <terminhell> isaac__:  run ip route   the default gateway should be listed
[04:47] <fragrant> ome: ?
[04:47] <ome> !xy
[04:47] <fragrant> ome: What would i do with that?
[04:47] <ome> :)
[04:48] <isaac__> How would I connect to a device (like a wireless access point) that had a default of <IP_ADDRESS>   the router's ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:48] <isaac__> and change it to use .0.245
[04:48] <ome> fragrant: why do you need to know what package is nautilus is using to mount a drive ?
[04:49] <sacarlson> isaac__: you can add an alias address to the nic example  ifconfig eth0:1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:49] <fragrant> Because it's not mounting,
[04:50] <fragrant> Unable to mount, not authorised
[04:51] <isaac__> Thank you sacarlson
[04:53] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!!
[04:53] <ponrajuganesh> "tar xvf sample.tar" ----> this actually extracts the tar file --- now is there any option to check whether if the folder is already is present not to extract
[04:54] <yjqg6666> ponrajuganesh man tar
[04:55] <ponrajuganesh> ogey yjqg6666
[04:56] <yjqg6666> ponrajuganesh tar --list sample.tar |grep folder_name
[04:57] <Xabster-lap> How do I give gedit superuser permissions? I need to replace a file...
[04:58] <terminhell> run gksudo gedit
[04:58] <terminhell> or sudo gedit
[04:59] <terminhell> or just sudo nano /path/to/filename
[04:59] <Xabster-lap> i just did sudo gedit
[04:59] <Xabster-lap> cause i didn't know what gksudo did
[04:59] <Xabster-lap> and it worked, thanks
[05:00] <kla> always w. this
[05:00] <Xabster-lap> If there any thing i can do to get a windows-like feature where i can right click and click "run as administrator"?
[05:00] <Xabster-lap> cause I'd like to make most my stuff available with mouse only
[05:00] <terminhell> Xabster-lap: gksudo appname
[05:01] <terminhell> Xabster-lap: or just google some nautilus scripts, im sure it exists
[05:02] <Xabster-lap> k, thanks
[05:02] <Xabster-lap> i'd hate to replace all my programs and give them shortcuts that include gksudo
[05:03] <sacarlson> Xabster-lap: I just create a shortcut to a script that runs gksudo nautilus;
[05:03] <dr_willis> i can only a few apps that need to run as root gor my normal day
[05:03] <dr_willis> i definatly sboide gksu nautilus...   ;)
[05:03] <dr_willis> avoide
[05:04] <dr_willis> there are  'edit as root..' addons for the nautilus menus
[05:14] <gotmilk> s
[05:24] <terminhell> ive got cows
[05:25] <rocktop> fdisk -l doesn't showing up failure HDD how to resolve the problem .?
[05:26] <ejv> since when does fdisk show disk failure information...
[05:27] <rocktop> ejv: its possible to run FSCK on that hideen hdd ?
[05:27] <cucu> hello
[05:28] <ejv> try checking the kernel buffer for access errors; fsck *could* be a destructive operation, YMMV.
[05:35] <Rask> Hello, channel.  I'm trying to install the 'maildrop' package, but for some reason when I do, aptitude wants to bring with it all kinds of packages that aren't in the depends... does anyone happen to know why it's doing this and how I can stop it?  D:
[05:36] <Rask> for some unexplained reason it wants to install both exim -and- postfix
[05:36] <Rask> even though, from my understanding, it should be able to stand on its own without requiring an MTA
[05:38] <sn00p> Hello, I am wanting to install ubuntu 11.10 on my new laptop which has intel integrated graphics HD3000 now previously I had ubuntu installed on my netbook and it didn't have dvi or hdmi it just had vga and i've had problems with the monitor on it it had intel integrated graphics 940GME or something anybody know how well the integrated graphics hd 3000 works with ubuntu?
[05:38] <yjqg6666> Rask aptitude show maildrop             see the depends field
[05:39] <Rask> yjqg6666: I have done, but nothing in there requires exim.  It 'recommends' exim4 | mail-transport-agent, but it doesn't appear to require it
[05:40] <yjqg6666> Rask   use aptitude install with --without-recommends options
[05:40] <Jordan_U> sn00p: Probably easiest to just try it out with the LiveCD and see for yourself.
[05:42] <yjqg6666> Rask how is it going ?
[05:42] <Rask> yjqg6666: Seems to work.  Thanks :)
[05:45] <ome> I have some how managed to block all ports on my computer
[05:45] <ome> well most of it.
[05:46] <pithagora> hi
[05:46] <ome> and now I can't get torrents, where should I look for the problem ?
[05:46] <ome> pithagora: Hi :)
[05:46] <CFHowlett> pithagora   greetings
[05:47] <pithagora> :ome - iptables -L -v
[05:48] <pithagora> :sn00p - it works fine for me on dell latitude e 5410
[05:51] <ome> pithagora: cheers.
[06:01] <LxKermit> exit
[06:03] <nunuyabiz> what software does Ubuntu use for screencasts.... like when you do a voice explanation of what you are doing and the viewer can see you mouse move around and whatever you execute on your screen as though it were live?
[06:04] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   gtkrecordmydesktop
[06:05] <nunuyabiz> CFHowlett thanks
[06:05] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   or instanbul or recroditnow or kx11grab: look in software center
[06:05] <CFHowlett> *recorditnow*
[06:06] <nunuyabiz> CFHowlett thanks again'
[06:06] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   have fun / be safe
[06:07] <collinjsimpson> any reason why a two directories have the same owner, group, and permissions but one can't be cd'ed into?
[06:08] <nunuyabiz> CFHowlett which one do you thing is best in terms of maturity and/or user friendliness
[06:08] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   gtkrecordmydesktop is the one I seem to see in use the most.  I've used it a few times and found it fairly intuitive ...
[06:09] <CFHowlett> of course YMMV :)
[06:09] <crf>  /join #transmission
[06:09] <nunuyabiz> CFHowlett thanks again
[06:09] <CFHowlett> nunuyabiz   np
[06:11] <chroot> how can i find a word in a text?
[06:11] <collinjsimpson> try 'grep'
[06:11] <chroot> i.e.  i want to find Success in file state
[06:11] <chroot> collinjsimpson, anyother tools,  i used that, not perfect.
[06:12] <CFHowlett> chroot   cat state | grep Success IIRC
[06:12] <chroot> CFHowlett,  i know that, anyother solutions ?
[06:13] <collinjsimpson> what is preventing you from using grep?
[06:13] <collinjsimpson> too slow?
[06:13] <chroot> no, it is hang out.
[06:13] <chroot> and dosen''t proceed
[06:14] <chroot> i am using it in a shell script
[06:14] <ketterer> which channel would i go to if i have a unique idea for ubuntu
[06:14] <collinjsimpson> chroot  might be executing an incorrect grep or searching in the wrong place
[06:15] <CFHowlett>  ketterer brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[06:15] <ketterer> thankyou
[06:15] <collinjsimpson> any reason why two directories have the *exact* same permissions but one can't be cd'ed into?
[06:17] <chroot> how to use awk find a word in a text?
[06:17] <silv3r_m00n> in terminal I want to execute a command and return
[06:17] <silv3r_m00n> how to do that ?
[06:18] <silv3r_m00n> ok command &
[06:20] <collinjsimpson> does anybody know why two directories act differently even thought they have the same permissions?
[06:26] <collinjsimpson> i have two directories with the same permissions. why can i cd into one and not the other?
[06:27] <rajarshi> hoe to install java wireless toolkit in ubuntu 11.10 version
[06:27] <dimitris> hello to all
[06:28] <CFHowlett> dimitris   greetings
[06:30] <rajarshi> how to install java wireless toll kit in ubuntu 11.10 version..can somebody help me !!!
[06:34] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson:   different owners maybe?
[06:38] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: another possibility is that is the directory is a subdirectory of a dir with different privs than the other compared dir
[06:39] <SumoJim> I'm looking to setup rcp (insecure I know), but I'm getting Permission Denied every time I've tried. I have added entries into .rhosts, hosts.equiv and securetty. Is anyone familiar enough to help me?
[06:40] <step_offset> Hi all, does anyone know of a way to create an *upgradeable* install on removeable media (usb, etc) ???
[06:41] <Jordan_U> step_offset: Do a normal install as you would to an internal drive.
[06:41] <step_offset> I am aware of the many methods of creating a custom removeable w/ a rw partition, but it doesn't allow for an upgrade, in particular, will fail at initramfs and new kenel install
[06:41] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent step_offset
[06:41] <sacarlson> SumoJim: seems rcp just redirects you to scp  so you will need an ssh-server installed on the server side to work
[06:42] <step_offset> bazhang: I have persistence working fine, but you can't perform a complete upgrade
[06:43] <step_offset> Jordan_U: are you sure this works?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> step_offset: Yes.
[06:43] <bazhang> step_offset, so get the new system and use that to create a persistent one
[06:43] <step_offset> thanks, Jordan_U
[06:43] <Jordan_U> step_offset: You're welcome.
[06:43] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson:  I had some confusion with -x on my directories, but I have resolved it now. Thank you.
[06:44] <step_offset> in the past, that failed miserably :-/
[06:44] <step_offset> I'd been creating a custom install in chroot and reflashing, getting a bit tedious
[06:44] <rajarshi> how to install java wireless toolkit in ubuntu 11.10...can somebody help me !!!
[06:45] <bazhang> rajarshi, whats the package name
[06:45] <rajarshi> i have downloaded it in linux.bin format
[06:45] <rajarshi> but not able to insatal it now
[06:45] <bazhang> rajarshi, with what package name
[06:46] <rajarshi> how to check the package name?
[06:46] <bazhang> rajarshi, the name of the package you downloaded
[06:47] <rajarshi> sun java wireless tolkit 2_5_1 linux.bin
[06:47] <bazhang> rajarshi, what do you need that for? better to install from ubuntu repos
[06:48] <rajarshi> what is this???
[06:48] <rajarshi> ubuntu repos?
[06:48] <rajarshi> ???
[06:49] <bazhang> rajarshi, the normal way to install software on ubuntu is from the software repos, not 3rd party websites
[06:49] <bazhang> !repos | rajarshi
[06:49] <collinjsimpson> rajarshi:  investigate 'apt-cache search myRepoName'?
[06:53] <mattiasnorlander> Has anyone tried Ubuntu+xbmc+spotify?
[06:54] <sacarlson> rajarshi: it looks like you just run the installer bin file after you have installed java jdk  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/installing-sun-java-wireless-toolkit-bin-file-572168/
[06:55] <j504> hi
[06:56] <j504> I followed these intrustions to set up mailman on my system: http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/development_environment_on_ubuntu_9.10
[06:56] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/108530/tools-for-java-development-on-ubuntu-11-10 rajarshi you mean this?
[06:56] <j504> I now want to reset these settings and start over (I messed something up :( )
[06:56] <j504> How to I reset what I've done?
[06:56] <bazhang> j504, for which version of ubuntu
[06:56] <rajarshi> yes
[06:57] <rajarshi> i downloaded from dat link
[06:57] <bazhang> rajarshi, did you check the link I gave you?
[06:57] <j504> bazhang: 11.10
[06:57] <rajarshi> yes ...
[06:57] <rajarshi> repositories link
[06:57] <m15k> Hey, is it enough to place the upstart configuration in /etc/init to register a task for system start?
[06:58] <bazhang> rajarshi, and that tells you how to do it
[06:58] <rajarshi> will it be available in synaptic
[06:58] <rajarshi> ???
[06:58] <bazhang> rajarshi, that link says no
[06:58] <rajarshi> kkk
[06:58] <rajarshi> so what to install frm dat
[06:58] <rajarshi> link
[06:58] <rajarshi> ??
[06:59] <bazhang> rajarshi, read the link, follow the instructions
[06:59] <j504> bazhang: I now have a user account called "mailman" on my system and have some changed config settings, Is there a way to reverse all of this?
[06:59] <Xabster-lap> How do I enable that rotating cube desktop in ubuntu 11.10 using gnome?
[07:00] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, got ccsm installed?
[07:00] <Xabster-lap> yes i believe so
[07:00] <Xabster-lap> yes i do, starting it now
[07:02] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, if my gfx card doesn't do opengl can I still use it but laggy?
[07:02] <Xabster-lap> just to see it
[07:02] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, what card
[07:02] <Xabster-lap> hurm
[07:02] <rajarshi> bazhang,how to add the repositories in ubuntu 11.10 version???
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Xabster-lap: If you're using GNOME shell then it's not possible.
[07:03] <bazhang> rajarshi, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[07:03] <j504> bazhang: Something like System Restore in Windows?
[07:03] <rajarshi> 11.10
[07:03] <bazhang> j504, no system restore, just remove the packages you installed
[07:04] <bazhang> rajarshi, then you should have the necessary repos installed; however with Sun Java you need to follow the instructions on that askubuntu link
[07:05] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[07:05] <Xabster-lap> that's all i could get from lshw
[07:05] <rajarshi> i have installed the sun java 1.6 version ..only i need dat sun java wirelees toolkit...is it instaled already???
[07:05] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, what about from lspci
[07:06] <bazhang> rajarshi, for cldc?
[07:06] <rajarshi> cldc????
[07:06] <rajarshi> dont have any idea about cldc??
[07:06] <Xabster-lap> same info, bazhang
[07:07] <bazhang> Sun Java Wireless Toolkit 2.5.1 for CLDC   rajarshi
[07:07] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, please pastebin the out put from lspci to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <bazhang> sun_java_wireless_toolkit-2_5_1-linux.bin   <---- rajarshi from the link I gave you
[07:09] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/893280/
[07:09] <rajarshi> i have already downloaded it..but not able to install it
[07:09] <rajarshi> ???
[07:11] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/82327/compiz-issues-on-intel-integrated-graphics-chips Xabster-lap this may help
[07:11] <Xabster-lap> okay, i just googled my model number, it's a Intel GMA 4500M
[07:11] <SumoJim> scararlson: Just noticed I missed your message do you know of a way to prevent rcp from redirecting to scp?
[07:11] <bazhang> chmod +x sun_java_wireless_toolkit-2_5_1-linux.bin
[07:11] <bazhang> ./sun_java_wireless_toolkit-2_5_1-linux.bin
[07:11] <bazhang> rajarshi, see above
[07:12] <rajarshi> so i have to run it in my terminal now??
[07:12] <Aesthenaut> is there a safe way to lower your CPU clockspeed for power saving?
[07:12] <bazhang> rajarshi, I simply copy and pasted exactly from the link I gave you
[07:12] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: Why do you want to use rcp?
[07:12] <bazhang> rajarshi, if you actually read the link, then you can know what to do
[07:12] <SumoJim> Because it's what our company uses. I know it's insecure, it's not up to me though.
[07:13] <rajarshi> bazhang,but it shows in the terminal no such file or directory
[07:14] <rajarshi> cannot access sun java wireless toolkit it shows???
[07:14] <SumoJim> At this point, I'll do whatever I can to get it to work. I tried looking into scp, unfortunately no luck on that front either.
[07:14] <bazhang> rajarshi, you need to be in the same directory, like on you r Desktop , or where ever you downloaded it to
[07:15] <SumoJim> There will be no access to internet or anything outside of network, so no need for security.
[07:15] <rajarshi> i kept it in my desktop
[07:15] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: You can't even use tftp, http, or other simple protocal which is still widely used and thus well supported?
[07:15] <bazhang> rajarshi, it's Desktop with a capital D
[07:15] <bazhang> rajarshi, so go to that directory
[07:16] <SumoJim> Jordan_U not sure how I would use that, I need to issue updates from a host machine to slave machines.
[07:17] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: What OS are the slave machines running, and what type of updates? Usually updates require more than a simple file copy.
[07:17] <m15k> Hey, is it enough to place the upstart configuration in /etc/init to register a task for system start?
[07:18] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: All machines are linux, they are simply configuration files for our simulation program so they will all run the same scenario and settings.
[07:19] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: Why not have the machines wget new files from an http server. For that matter, why can't you use scp? Does your company actively disallow use of protocals other than rcp?
[07:19] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: In the souce, I tracked the program crash to be that a script it launches is failing.
[07:20] <number_one_1> hey all new kid n town jus wanna say i left win7 and i love ubuntu alot :)
[07:20] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, even when I enable rotating cube I got the "wall" thingy where, if i press ctrl+alt+down, I can switch to a secondary desktop
[07:20] <Xabster-lap> but nothing else works - I checked the keyboard bindings and I'm clicking the right stuff
[07:21] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: The other computers will have no way of knowing what files they need.
[07:21] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, wall plugin needs to be disabled with cube on
[07:21] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: Maybe better stated, when they will need them.
[07:22] <Xabster-lap> yes and it is, bazhang, it does that automatically
[07:22] <Xabster-lap> but it still works even when disabled
[07:22] <Xabster-lap> i don't know if it's some sort of fallback cause no opengl support
[07:22] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: That is, without re-writing our current program initilization.
[07:23] <SumoJim> Jordan_U: Which could take months, so that's not an option.
[07:24] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, not sure there, according to the askubuntu post, modifying grub will allow you to use compiz; perhaps #compiz can give a better answer
[07:30] <number_one_1> hey all noob here is conky pretty easy to fix up?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> SumoJim: How did your company manage to install an rcp daemon in the first place?
[07:30] <sammmy> Can I update upstart even though I'm using ubuntu 10.10?
[07:30] <bazhang> number_one_1, sure
[07:31] <bazhang> number_one_1, need to see the beginners guide?
[07:31] <number_one_1> oh plz
[07:31] <number_one_1> :)
[07:31] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 number_one_1
[07:31] <number_one_1> bazhang: ty much my friend
[07:33] <number_one_1> why do i keep gettin unlock ring coming up?
[07:33] <number_one_1> what is that
[07:34] <bazhang> number_one_1, for a wireless network?
[07:34] <number_one_1> it is?
[07:34] <number_one_1> started when i open pidgin
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> Is there some sort of repository for embedded Intel graphics cards?
[07:36] <dan3son> Anyone here use transmission? I'm an ubuntu n00b and that channel is dead atm
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> I'm looking but all I find a zip files with Fedora drivers
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> dan3son,, i do
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> -,
[07:36] <Abhijit> Xabster-lap, there is website for intel graphics card drivers
[07:36] <CFHowlett> dan3son   what's the issue?
[07:36] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, perhaps a PPA
[07:36] <dan3son> I can download from the GUI in ubuntu but the web interface won't connect to peers for some reason. It's the strangest thing
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> what does PPA stand for bazhang ?
[07:36] <bazhang> !ppa | Xabster-lap
[07:36] <Xabster-lap> i thought PPA's /were/ repositories
[07:36] <Abhijit> Xabster-lap, http://intellinuxgraphics.org/
[07:37] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, yes, but DIY at your own risk ones
[07:38] <dan3son> Any idea what I should do Xabster/CFHowlett?
[07:38] <Xabster-lap> thanks, Abhijit, but it says you need to be a non-n00b to do it
[07:38] <Xabster-lap> and i dont fit that category
[07:38] <Abhijit> ok
[07:38] <Xabster-lap> :/
[07:38] <Abhijit> this is linux world. or get an commercial support.
[07:38] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!1
[07:38] <dan3son> I'm trying to download a legal torrent w/3000 seeders and it's just not connecting to peers
[07:39] <dan3son> The machine isn't even behind NAT
[07:39] <CFHowlett> dan3son   for grins and giggles, run an alternate torrent manager - install one form software center and see if it'll connect
[07:39] <ponrajuganesh> How am I to display the files in the folder which are of size 0?
[07:39] <dan3son> Well CFHowlett, the GUI version of the program works fine. The web daemon doesn't
[07:39] <bazhang> dan3son, sounds like you need to adjust the port number
[07:39] <CFHowlett> dan3son   ah, ok, ports adjustment
[07:40] <ponrajuganesh> How to display the files in the folder which are of size 0?
[07:40] <number_one_1> noob here i was told by someone u never gotta reboot linux, i did big update had problems now reboot everything 110% in line
[07:41] <number_one_1> :)
[07:41] <bazhang> number_one_1, well not never
[07:41] <ecthiender> hello, i'd like to know if sticky notes application for gnome, specifically gnome-shell, is still available? I can't seem to find it in the repo. I'm using 11.10 with gnome-shell
[07:41] <Abhijit> number_one_1, in case of kernel update you need to reboot
[07:41] <dan3son> I'm think it's a permissions issue with the daemon.
[07:41] <sevlarasec> one question i need ubuntu canal br...
[07:41] <CFHowlett> !tomboy|ecthiender
[07:41] <number_one_1> ya ok i know now
[07:41] <bazhang> sevlarasec, #ubuntu-br
[07:41] <CFHowlett> ecthiender   tomboy
[07:41] <number_one_1> ty
[07:41] <sevlarasec> ok ty
[07:42] <number_one_1> was kernal update to....:)
[07:42] <sevlarasec> #ubuntu-br
[07:42] <ecthiender> CFHowlett, umm sticky notes? i wasn't looking for tomboy
[07:42] <Abhijit> sevlarasec, /j #ubunt-br
[07:42] <number_one_1> all good now
[07:42] <Abhijit> sevlarasec, /j #ubuntu-br
[07:42] <bluefrog> ponrajuganesh, find -type f -size 0
[07:42] <raketti> how do i get panels/launcher running? i only have pidgin on my desktop..
[07:42] <raketti> so any keybindings to open console..
[07:42] <Abhijit> raketti, ctrl alt t
[07:42] <number_one_1> ok ima try this conky thing bazhang
[07:43] <raketti> Abhijit: awesome! thnx!! =D
[07:43] <number_one_1> wow this looks nice
[07:43] <raketti> the next problem is.. my gnome session won't start automatically..
[07:43] <raketti> meaning, no logon screen
[07:44] <ecthiender> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition : this link says that there is a sticky notes applet. But I can't seem to find it.
[07:45] <st1> I've changed locale to denmark in language support '/etc/environment' '/etc/default/locale', but I still see date format like 'wed mar 21 12:34' instead of iso format
[07:45] <ecthiender> Any insights?
[07:45] <Abhijit> raketti, how are you starting it now?
[07:45] <st1> oh, that's only in terminal, in gui applications like nautilus are already right
[07:45] <CFHowlett> ecthiender   look in the software center - LOTS of notes apps are available
[07:46] <raketti> Abhijit: startx
[07:47] <ecthiender> CFHowlett, yes there is knotes, and xpad and lots. I am looking for sticky notes for gnome. (damn. don't even know the package name)
[07:47] <CFHowlett> ecthiender   xjournal is pretty handy
[07:47] <Abhijit> raketti, please do uname -a in terminal and tell me the output
[07:48] <ecthiender> CFHowlett, is it like sticky? stick em up on your desktop?
[07:48] <raketti> Abhijit: can i get the output straight here? using irsssi...
[07:48] <CFHowlett> ecthiender   look in software and then go the site shown for more info.
[07:48] <ecthiender> CFHowlett, hmm ok
[07:49] <raketti> Linux lakka 3.1.10-grbfs-kapsi #2 SMP Sun Jan 22 18:37:08 EET 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:50] <Abhijit> raketti, no
[07:50] <bazhang> ecthiender,for gnome3?
[07:50] <Abhijit> raketti, are you sure the system you are using is ubuntu?
[07:50] <raketti> Abhijit: it's mint, but close enough..
[07:50] <bazhang> !mintsupport > raketti
[07:51] <Abhijit> raketti, please ask in the mint channel. it is not same. they have different configuration. they should be better knowing why x is not starting automatically
[07:52] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, I'm downloading a 124 mb zip file now with some driver off of Intel's site that matches my card but I have no idea what to do when the download completes... I'm super newbie
[07:52] <raketti> trying.. no answer.. frendlier people here :D
[07:55] <bazhang> !info xpad | ecthiender
[07:55] <CFHowlett> macosx only?
[07:55] <ecthiender> bazhang, thanks. but i was specifically looking for sticky notes. its an applet. this one: http://library.gnome.org/users/stickynotes_applet/stable/stickynotes-introduction.html.en
[07:56] <ecthiender> and i can't seem find it in the repo
[07:56] <bazhang> Xabster-lap, yeah, I would either stick with what ubuntu repos offer, or get the PPA for that card. you have to extract that package contents and follow the instructions on the read me file
[07:56] <bazhang> ecthiender, and it was removed
[07:57] <ecthiender> bazhang, oh. thanks. that was the insight I needed :)
[07:57] <bazhang> ecthiender, trying to suggest an alternative, like knotes or xpad, tomboy perhaps
[07:57] <dan3son> Shit I fixed it.
[07:57] <ecthiender> bazhang, think I'll go with xpad
[07:57] <Chat9598> Hello all
[07:57] <bazhang> though tomboy is way more than stick notes
[07:57] <dan3son> I just had to restart the daemon
[07:57] <ecthiender> bazhang, yeah. we all know about tomboy
[07:57] <Chat9598> /Nick faceitone
[07:57] <dan3son> I have a Debian/Ubuntu question for you guys though, an easy one
[07:57] <ye> 额 大家好
[07:58] <number_one_1> hey noob ? here do u need a ccleaner for linux?
[07:58] <dan3son> I installed the daemon and in /etc/default/transmission-daemon it's configured 'ENABLE_DAEMON=1'
[07:58] <dan3son> And I an stop/start it with /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon
[07:58] <dan3son> My question is, how does Ubuntu start up my daemons at boot?
[07:59] <bazhang> dan3son, in startup applications? add it there?
[07:59] <dan3son> Where is the master list of processes to load stored? In windows this would typically be done in the registry
[07:59] <bazhang> ye  its english here, #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[07:59] <Facitonne> It's magic
[07:59] <Aciid> dan3son: update-rc.d
[07:59] <bazhang> Facitonne, what is
[08:00] <bazhang> number_one_1, ccleaner is a registry cleaner? something like that?
[08:00] <triscuit> bleachbit
[08:00] <triscuit> ?
[08:00] <dan3son> Thanks Aciid
[08:03] <number_one_1> anyone got comment?
[08:03] <Foo438> Hello
[08:03] <number_one_1> hi Foo
[08:03] <Foo438> I'm setting up some server software on a computer running ubuntu
[08:03] <Foo438> I'm following this guide: http://funnymonkey.com/install-geoserver-ubuntu
[08:04] <bazhang> number_one_1, about what?
[08:04] <number_one_1> do i need a cleaner for linux? like ccleaner for win?
[08:04] <bazhang> number_one_1, apt will recommend you remove packages when necessary
[08:04] <number_one_1> oh ok
[08:04] <workcjk> How do I edit a printer in the printer settings?
[08:04] <roy_m> Hi, I am writing a intro how to lab for snort. I have installed everything nicely and it appears to be working as it is generating logs when I portscan using nmap. Can anyone suggest and simple apt-get install type utilities for ubuntu that will run random hacks. I really just want to generate a whole bunch of different alerts on my snort IDS. Thanks
[08:05] <workcjk> I can't figure out how to do it
[08:05] <SumoJim> JordanU: rcp Seemed to just work on Fedora 10, but we are just moving to Ubuntu.
[08:05] <Foo438> I have a problem though, in short the guide instructs you to create a link "/etc/init.d/geoserver" that links to geoserver/bin/initd.sh
[08:05] <workcjk> I wanna change it to duplex
[08:05] <collinjsimpson> roy_m:  BackTrack is very useful for those kinds of things.
[08:05] <sith> any one?
[08:06] <collinjsimpson> Is there any way to kick users out of a mounted directory so the directory can be unmounted (without logging off the users)?
[08:06] <Foo438> but when I try starting it up, "sudo /etc/init.d/geoserver start" I get an error: "sudo: unable to execute /etc/init.d/geoserver: No such file or directory"
[08:06] <Guest75809> how can i get the title bar of kubuntu??
[08:06] <roy_m> collinjsimpson: Yeah, I know but it is a 2 hour lab tutorial and backtrack takes time to install on ubuntu...
[08:06] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, fuser -k
[08:06] <ssta> collinjsimpson: not really, no
[08:06] <Abhijit> collinjsimpson, if you are root then you can do umount
[08:07] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, don't listen to ssta, use fuser
[08:07] <collinjsimpson> Abhijit:  umount doesnt work when users are using the resource. I need to get them out of the resource first.
[08:07] <roy_m> collinjsimpson, maybe I will just use a backtrack live cd
[08:07] <ssta> workcjk: which will kill the user's shell...
[08:07] <Guest75809> any body familiar with kde desktop?
[08:07] <Abhijit> Guest75809, yes
[08:08] <workcjk> ssta, exactle "kick users out of a mounted dir"
[08:08] <collinjsimpson> workcjk:  that helps identify what's using the resource. it doesnt help in freeing the resource
[08:08] <workcjk> exactly
[08:08] <ssta> workcjk: "...without logging them out"
[08:08] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, man fuser
[08:08] <olegb> Foo438: is the link created correctly, is there really a file/link in /etc/init.d/geoserver ?
[08:09] <collinjsimpson> workcjk:  'fuser -k' would kill bash for all users using the resource, kicking them out of SSH.
[08:09] <Foo438> olegb: yes I'm quite confident in that
[08:09] <workcjk> anyway, does anyone know how to "edit" a printer in the printer settings in 11.10
[08:09] <Xabster-lap> bazhang, ok i found a PPA matching what I need and I added it as a repo - how do I install? :)
[08:09] <olegb> Foo438: and it shows up when you do "ls /etc/init.d/" ?
[08:09] <workcjk> I really think it is stupid if I have to delete it and create it again.
[08:10] <Foo438> olegb: yup. btw I've tried using both a symlink and a hard one, no difference
[08:10] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, how many users are you talking about?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: Does a lazy unmount solve your particular issue?
[08:11] <workcjk> collinjsimpson, can you tell them to cd, cause otherwise, either kill them or don't unmount.
[08:11] <collinjsimpson> workcjk:  Arbitrary. The amount of users doesn't affect the way I'll go about solving the problem...
[08:11] <ssta> collinjsimpson: you can try to umount -f (which may or may not work, depending on what sort of mount it is)
[08:11] <olegb> Foo438: and geoserver/bin/initd.sh also exists ? you may need to used the full path to the file ..
[08:12] <Foo438> olegb: yep, the "target" file exists
[08:12] <pawleeq> Hi
[08:13] <olegb> Foo438: I would go through geoserver/bin/initd.sh and see if the problem is that the script tries to open a non-existing file
[08:13] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: If it's media which you need to remove safely, then a lazy unmount won't help. If you just need to mount something else there though, a lazy unmount is probably the way to go (anyone whos current directory is under the mountpoint during the umount will continue using the old filesystem until they cd. When all users are no longer using the filesystem it will actually be unmounted).
[08:13] <pawleeq> I have Genius MousePen 8x6, which was working pretty well, but after some updates (i havent been using it for a few weeks) it dos not work at all and it is not event listed in lsusb output, any clue pls?
[08:15] <collinjsimpson> Jordan_U:  That's good to know. It's a shame there seems to be no way of redirecting user shell locations.
[08:15] <dan3son> Okay. Now I'm having a permissions problem
[08:15] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: That'
[08:15] <dan3son> I tried moving the download folder to /srv/torrents because my samba folder is located in /srv/samba and it'd make it convenient to move files within an FTP client
[08:15] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: ... That's not the only problem. You also have anyone with any file open (in any utility).
[08:16] <dan3son> The transmission daemon obviously doens't have proper permissions to create files/folders within /srv/torrents (I had to sudo to create the directory)
[08:16] <dan3son> What can I do?
[08:16] <collinjsimpson> Jordan_U:  Sorry, I understand. I was using the term loosely.
[08:17] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: Why do you need to unmount the filesystem, what type of filesystem is it? (to help see what your options are).
[08:19] <dan3son> 'transmission-da' is being run by user 116
[08:19] <dan3son> What does that mean?
[08:19] <collinjsimpson> Jordan_U:  I'm using bindfs and fstab to share a directory among a set of users. In order for changes in fstab to take effect, I need to remount the filesystem.
[08:20] <ssta> collinjsimpson: -o remount doesn't help?
[08:20] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  Correct.
[08:21] <ssta> collinjsimpson: I don't know of a way to do what you want then...sorry
[08:21] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  I guess it's understandable that it's (apparently) not possible to do. Lots of complications involved.
[08:22] <mattiasnorlander> Question: Is not holding down "shift" during boot of Ubuntu supposed to let me access grub boot menu?
[08:22] <ssta> collinjsimpson: I don't know that it's impossible (although I suspect it is).  Be interesting to see if you can find a way
[08:22] <Jordan_U> mattiasnorlander: Holding shift during boot should get you the grub menu.
[08:23] <DJones> mattiasnorlander: Yes it is, I think (from memory) its only left shift that does that though
[08:23] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  That's why I used the "apparently" qualifier :). I'll keep an eye out for a solution.
[08:23] <collinjsimpson> ssta, Jordan_U:  Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.
[08:24] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: If you want an ugly hack to keep them from losing their ssh session but still kill their shell, add something like this to their ~/.bashrc (after lots of testing to avoid infinite loops)...
[08:26] <mattiasnorlander> Jordan_U: DJones: trying left shift without result. I am running Ubuntu 11.10 minimal. TV just goes black after bios splashscreen until "Ubuntu starting..." splashscreen is shown
[08:26] <Jordan_U> collinjsimpson: if [[ "$hacky_second_shell_started" != true ]]; then hacky_second_shell_started=true; export hacky_second_shell_started; bash; fi
[08:26] <ssta> ewwww, yuck!
[08:27] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  Yuck, indeed. Interesting, though.
[08:29] <arturaz> Hey folks. I'm having problems with localization in 11.10 (unity). I've installed language-pack-lt package, however language support does not how lithuanian in supported languages. Any ideas?
[08:29] <ssta> it will work, but you might run into problems if users have their own .bashrc hacks (eg to start stuff upon login)
[08:29] <ssta> and...eeewww!
[08:29] <ssta> anwyay, worktime.  Good luck with it collinjsimpson
[08:30] <goddard> if i installed something using make install how can i uninstall it?
[08:30] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  Thanks for the help. Have fun at work.
[08:30] <ssta> I doubt it...going to spend most of the day writing vbscript hacks
[08:31] <JMLatvala> window
[08:31] <collinjsimpson> ssta:  Ok, then have a mediocre day at work. Better?
[08:31] <JMLatvala> oops :>
[08:31] <ssta> haha, I'll try.  Thanks :)
[08:32] <kylesum> goddard, you can try make uninstall but few packages have that target
[08:32] <kylesum> otherwise.... rm?
[08:32] <douglaslucas> Just installed Linux for the first time tonight. Ubuntu using Gnome Classic.
[08:32] <collinjsimpson> douglaslucas:  Congrats. Welcome to the matrix.
[08:32] <willian> hi
[08:33] <derekyangdk> quit
[08:33]  * kylesum pats douglaslucas on the back
[08:33] <douglaslucas> thanks. :) :)
[08:34] <collinjsimpson> douglaslucas:  Is ubuntu now your primary OS?
[08:34] <iMeerkat> Hows everyone doing?
[08:35] <collinjsimpson> Not doing much, but doing.
[08:35] <douglaslucas> I plan for it to be, yes collin
[08:36] <iMeerkat> collinjsimpson I can say the same. I've been programming and just looked at the clock and its 430 :(
[08:36] <collinjsimpson> douglaslucas:  You're a better man than I. I don't think I'd manage in terms of recreation.
[08:36] <collinjsimpson> iMeerkat:  It's 4:30 over here as well. Class at 8.
[08:37] <douglaslucas> My machine is a MacBook Pro7,1 with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 320m. I installed nvidia-current from ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates as suggested by the help.ubuntu.com for my model & Ocelot, but that caused my screen to blip out in so many ways that i had to reinstall ocelot
[08:37] <iMeerkat> Ouch. I have class at 5.. pm lol
[08:37] <douglaslucas> Am curious if any has suggestions as to how i could tackle getting the right driver for ocelot and my card
[08:39] <iMeerkat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Oneiric
[08:39] <douglaslucas> iMeerkat: right, that's the one I was looking at and followed
[08:40] <iMeerkat> Whats going on with the video?
[08:41] <douglaslucas> iMeerkat: when I rebooted, the screen would blip out (a flash of a horizontal line) and go black. the machine would power off. nothing in reserve mode could fix it (that I could figure out, anyway)
[08:42] <derek> exit
[08:42] <douglaslucas> iMeerkat: the things I did in reserve mode eventually led to the screen blipping out again
[08:42] <gvandeweyer> What could be the reason that I can 'id ldap-username' as a regular user, but if I sudo the same command, the ldap user is not recognised ?
[08:42] <mrfelton> I have a schell script that does sep to sync a file from a remote server. My ssh key is on the remote server, and I can ssh without needing a password. When I run the sep command from the terminal, it works. When Iit runs from inside the base script, it asks for a password...
[08:42] <mrfelton> Why doesn't it use my ssh key?
[08:45] <iMeerkat> sorry it took me so long douglaslucas had to let the dog out I would try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Oneiric#Video_.26_Effects_.28Compiz.29
[08:46] <douglaslucas> no problem iMeerkat. Looking at the link now
[08:47] <sammmy> how do I update upstart?
[08:47] <collinjsimpson> apt-get install upstart?
[08:48] <collinjsimpson> sammmy:   if not, try 'apt-get update'
[08:49] <sammmy> is there some major incompatabilities with upstart's latest version and the one I got 0.6.0?
[08:49] <sammmy> 0.6.6
[08:50] <collinjsimpson> sammmy:  current version is 1.4, so an update from 0.6.6 might be substantial. Check the changelog: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[08:50] <anonymous_> hi
[08:50] <sammmy> Or is that the latest version?
[08:50] <anonymous_> wtf?)
[08:51] <AndyUbuntu> Hey everyone
[08:51] <collinjsimpson> sammmy:  Depending on how much 'legacy' support you need for upstart, you might not notice a change.
[08:51] <AndyUbuntu> has anyone ome across this problem
[08:51] <mr_ubuntu_12> hi ubuntu gurus can any1 please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[08:52] <AndyUbuntu> I have no application menus at all in gnome3, they are gone
[08:52] <mr_ubuntu_12> i have been waiting for ages in libreoffice community but no reply
[08:53] <AndyUbuntu> for example there is no menu for libreoffice, nautilus and other apps
[08:53] <collinjsimpson> AndyUbuntu:  You're sure you have them installed?
[08:54] <mr_ubuntu_12> Hi AndyUbuntu collinjsimpson anonymous_ sammy collinjsimpson  can u  please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[08:54] <mr_ubuntu_12> libreoffice menus AndyUbuntu can be reinstalled
[08:54] <auronandace> collinjsimpson: i think he is refering to the file, edit and so on menus on the apps themselves
[08:55] <AndyUbuntu> collinjsimpson, they are menus on all applications and i did have them before
[08:55] <AndyUbuntu> they seem to be gone from an update
[08:55] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu  here u go sudo apt-get remove lo-menubar
[08:55] <mr_ubuntu_12> sudo apt-get install lo-menubar
[08:55] <douglaslucas> What is the equivalent of "System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers" in GNOME Classic ?
[08:55] <collinjsimpson> AndyUbuntu: My mistake.
[08:55] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu sudo apt-get install libreoffice-gnome
[08:55] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu sudo apt-get install libreoffice-kde for kde
[08:56] <AndyUbuntu> mr_ubuntu_12 this applies to other applications also
[08:56] <AndyUbuntu> like nautilus
[08:56] <Kartagis> I have an issue. I need to recover some photos from an fdisk'd disk, on which I have later written stuff on. what are the chances for me to recover them?
[08:56] <auronandace> Kartagis: not great
[08:56] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu this is for LibreOffice global menu
[08:57] <mr_ubuntu_12> Hi AndyUbuntu collinjsimpson anonymous_ sammy collinjsimpson  can u  please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[08:57] <auronandace> !photorec | Kartagis
[08:57] <Kartagis> !info photorec
[08:57] <auronandace> !undelete | Kartagis
[08:57] <mr_ubuntu_12> auronandace Kartagis  can u  please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[08:57] <AndyUbuntu> mr_ubuntu_12 thanks
[08:58] <mattiasnorlander> How do I get my wifi working when using ubuntu 11.10 minimal? it is not listed when using ifconfig. Could anybody point me in the right direction?
[08:58] <mr_ubuntu_12> AndyUbuntu oh u r welcome . u can pray for twins for me i return ;)
[08:58] <Foo438> Hello
[08:58] <Foo438> I'm setting up some server software on a computer running ubuntu
[08:58] <Foo438> I'm following this guide: http://funnymonkey.com/install-geoserver-ubuntu
[08:58] <auronandace> mr_ubuntu_12: i haven't used calc or graphs in libreoffice
[08:59] <Foo438> I have a problem though, in short the guide instructs you to create a link "/etc/init.d/geoserver" that links to geoserver/bin/initd.sh
[08:59] <AndyUbuntu> I have been using the gnome3 application menu and this seems to not be working anymore as so i am not able to see any of my app menus
[08:59] <Foo438> but when I try starting it up, "sudo /etc/init.d/geoserver start" I get an error: "sudo: unable to execute /etc/init.d/geoserver: No such file or directory"
[08:59] <AndyUbuntu> this was the main issue
[08:59] <mr_ubuntu_12> oh auronandace ,,, thanks but it really sucks lo macros are not so intelligent
[08:59] <douglaslucas> When I try System Settings - Hardware - Additional Drivers, there's nothing there for NVIDIA
[08:59] <Foo438> I have scrutinized it a bit and I can't find anything that's wrong, any ideas on how I should troubleshoot?
[09:01] <auronandace> !info testdisk | Kartagis
[09:01] <auronandace> Kartagis: photorec is in testdisk
[09:01] <Kartagis> auronandace: I'll try these, thanks
[09:02] <auronandace> Kartagis: no worries (always good to extol the virtues of backups)
[09:03] <Kartagis> auronandace: which fs has the better chances for a recovery? I'll keep that in mind
[09:04] <auronandace> Kartagis: don't know sorry, i've never needed to recover files
[09:05] <douglaslucas> Not sure what happened, I think I closed this channel window
[09:05] <douglaslucas> So with System Settings -> Hardware -> Additional Drivers, I don't see anything for NVIDIA
[09:05] <mr_ubuntu_12> Hi AndyUbuntu collinjsimpson anonymous_ sammy collinjsimpson  <douglaslucas> <auronandace>  <Kartagis> can u  please comment on http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2796 ???
[09:06] <douglaslucas> and I'm not sure what "System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers" in the MacBook Pro 6,2 guide means
[09:06] <derek> l
[09:06] <auronandace> mr_ubuntu_12: i have already commented, stop highlighting people needlessly
[09:07] <Syria> Do you guys recommend that I install Gnome3 on my 11.10?
[09:07] <Oer> douglaslucas, maybe you need to enable the mac ppa >> https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=
[09:08] <auronandace> Syria: i recomend you use whatever suits you best, xfce suits me best
[09:08] <Oer> Syria, guess what ? 11.10 comes with gnome3
[09:08] <auronandace> Syria: to find out what suits you try them out
[09:09] <ultrixx> Syria: yes try it out. i use kde
[09:09] <sammmy> how do you use forever to start node-inspector?
[09:09] <Syria> auronandace:  Oer  Is it completly compatable and will not cause problems?
[09:09] <Syria> ultrixx:  Using KDE makes me tired, It doesnt suit me at all.
[09:09] <derek> 2
[09:10] <Oer> Syria, completely compatible with what?
[09:10] <Syria> Oer:  With 11.10.
[09:10] <Oer> Syria, 11.10 runs on Gnome3
[09:10] <Oer> so i guess, yes?
[09:11] <bazhang> Syria, of course kde4 has an 11.10 version
[09:11] <Syria> Oer: I did not know that, Thank you.
[09:11] <quiescens> it doesn't come with gnome3 by default to my knowledge
[09:11] <Syria> bazhang:  :D
[09:11] <bazhang> Syria, install kubuntu-desktop to get it
[09:11] <auronandace> !unity | Syria
[09:12] <Syria> Thank you very much guys, I am upgrading to 11.10 right now.
[09:12] <UrB> quiescens: yeah, not by default, but can install it from the default repositories
[09:13] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!!
[09:13] <ponrajuganesh> how to cancel a bash script when it is running in the background
[09:14] <Oer> ponrajuganesh, kill -9 <PID>
[09:14] <Oer> ponrajuganesh, to find the PID, run TOP of Htop ( not installed default )
[09:14] <ponrajuganesh> Oer: when I do over grep with the bash there are few more runnin? is there any way to find the script name associated with every
[09:15] <yuskhanzab> hi
[09:15] <sacarlson> ponrajuganesh: maybe killall scriptname
[09:16] <douglaslucas> Oer: none of those nvidia mac packages are for ocelot :(
[09:16] <Oer> ponrajuganesh, see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kill-a-process-by-process-name-from-ubuntu-command-line/
[09:17] <Oer> douglaslucas, i am sorry.
[09:17] <ponrajuganesh> fine :) thanks Oer and sacarlson
[09:24] <[Si]> douglaslucas do the graphics work with the noeuvau built in drivers?
[09:25] <douglaslucas> Si: yes but they look slightly bad somehow. I'm not very good with visual vocabulary, so hard to describe. I could screenshot though
[09:26] <[Si]> I have a Macbook air, I swaped to the closed nvidia drivers but it makes the bits outside X look very bad
[09:26] <Kaco> morning
[09:26] <douglaslucas> Si: outside X?
[09:27] <[Si]> if you use like ctrl-alt-f1 to get a text console.
[09:27] <[Si]> and while it boots/shuts down.
[09:28] <Kaco> frambuffer console? i bet bootloader sets up some weird resolution
[09:29] <douglaslucas> ah, then I am not too concerned about outside X :)
[09:31] <mohtadi> Hi everyone
[09:31] <mohtadi> Anyone knows how to change the file receiving folder for bluetooth in ubuntu?
[09:32] <mohtadi> files are received automatically in /Downloads but i need them to be stored at a different location
[09:32] <douglaslucas> Is "System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers" the same as "System Settings - Hardware - Additional Drivers" ?
[09:32] <aatish> hi
[09:33] <aatish> i have problem "Load Karnel" in grub
[09:33] <Oer> douglaslucas, yes
[09:33] <aatish> can anyonehelp me
[09:34] <sacarlson> aatish: you want to change or add a kernel in grub2 menu?
[09:34] <[Si]> Kaco, on my mac at least I had to bypass the FB Console totaly, "nomodeset" + LINUXGFXPAYLOAD=text to make it usable.
[09:34] <douglaslucas> Hmm since the mactel packages are old, is there another way I could get my nvidia card to show up in Additional Drivers?
[09:34] <matt5> I'd rather not go through the whole installation process -- can I somehow download a virtualbox image of 12.04 beta? I'm trying to find it, but no luck so far. anyone have a clue as to where I may be able to find it?
[09:35] <aatish> sacarlson :  I m newbie in linux ubuntu plz can you guide me or tel me any resource with that i can fix that
[09:35] <Oer> aatish, isn't that specified in the ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs file ?
[09:35] <Oer> eh sorry aatish , is for mohtadi
[09:36] <aatish> plz send me any link or form so i'll fix that i m gud in win platform n developer in php
[09:36] <cris_> i've installed macbuntu, docky menu looks fine, but i still have the unity bar on the left and the gnome panel looks the same
[09:36] <Oer> mohtadi, isn't that specified in the ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs file ? it will change for all download, afaik
[09:38] <[Si]> douglaslucas, the way I did it was quite a hack, it's proably best for someone that knows the propper ubuntu way to tell you, or you could hit issues updating later.
[09:38] <aatish> i can't boot my system
[09:38] <Oer> douglaslucas, what Nvidia videocard? open terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[09:39] <ponrajuganesh> what command to move all the files form one directory to another
[09:39] <douglaslucas> Oer: GeForce 320M
[09:39] <douglaslucas> er
[09:39] <douglaslucas> hang on
[09:39] <[Si]> ponrajuganesh mv /dir/* /newdir/
[09:40] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone know why my gnome 3 extension for applications could be gone?
[09:40] <AndyUbuntu> is not working*
[09:40] <douglaslucas> Oer: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 08a0 (rev a2)
[09:40] <cris_> bump :)
[09:42] <[Si]> douglaslucas, the problem with mine is the EFI bios/VBE emulation layer doesn't show anything but 640x480 or 800x600 so the FB console is just a mess. until I hacked it.
[09:42] <[Si]> that could be the same as you are seeing.
[09:43] <Oer> douglaslucas, is it a hybride video / intel + nvidia ?
[09:44] <douglaslucas> Si: That sounds intimidating :)
[09:44] <douglaslucas> Oer: I'm not sure about the video part, but it's Intel, yeah
[09:45] <Oer> ah, theb
[09:45] <Oer> ah then you should check bumblebee >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[09:45] <sacarlson> aatish: maybe try this and tell me how it goes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbIHWoJhIII
[09:46] <Oer> douglaslucas, else there is a #Bumblebee channel too here on freenode, those guys are up2date
[09:47] <[Si]> Ah I didn't realise the MBPs had hybrid setups. Sorry for the confusion there douglaslucas
[09:48] <Defusal> hi everyone
[09:48] <aatish> sacarlson : tx for that i'll try that
[09:48] <Oer> [Si], me too, but the specs of the video gave me a clue
[09:49] <Defusal> i've added the following line to my /etc/sudoers file, but still get "adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system." -- "admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/home/admin/script/add_system_user", does anyone know why?
[09:50] <MestreLion> can an ubuntu repo contain 2 versions of the same package?
[09:50] <Oer> MestreLion, yes, 32 & 64 bit
[09:50] <ikonia> MestreLion: if they are named differently, sure
[09:50] <ikonia> MestreLion: most common is to seperate into different repos though
[09:51] <mohtadi> Oer:  yes that's it!!! thanks XD
[09:51] <ikonia> Defusal: depends what's in that script
[09:51] <MestreLion> Oer: ok, let me rephrase that... given a single arch , single release, and not considering repos like security, updates, backports, etc
[09:51] <ikonia> MestreLion: the common approach is to have one version per repo
[09:52] <ikonia> MestreLion: it makes functionality such as searching simple and no need for pinning when installing
[09:52] <Defusal> ikonia, oh i am a retard
[09:52] <Defusal> i forgot to add sudo to the script :P
[09:52] <Defusal> i thought it wasnt needed
[09:54] <MestreLion> ikonia: but... is it *possible*? Are there any cases of that currently in Ubuntu? (and i mean same package names, i'm not considering packages like wine1.2 and wine1.3, since, for ubuntu, they are different packages
[09:54] <ikonia> MestreLion: there are no cases in the ubuntu repos
[09:54] <MestreLion> ikonia: glad to know :D
[09:54] <ikonia> MestreLion: and no - same package names is not possible
[09:56] <MestreLion> ikonia / Oer  : just to make sure I understood correctly. If i run apt-cache policy <somepackage>, and it shows me more than 1 available version, these different versions must be necessarily in different repos, correct?
[09:56] <yanniboi> \j #drupal-commerce
[09:57] <ikonia> MestreLion: yes
[09:57] <MestreLion> so 1 would be from security, the other from, say, updates, and the last from... err.. how can i call it? "main" ?
[09:58] <ikonia> MestreLion: why don't you give us the actual example
[09:58] <MestreLion> ikonia: i'm not talking about any particular package... i'm making a script to calculate "Ubuntu size"
[09:59] <MestreLion> an estimation of how large a system would be if *all* available packages are installed
[09:59] <MestreLion> (provided someone is crazy enough to do so)
[09:59] <quiescens> vast swathes of packages conflict with vast swathes of other packages
[10:00] <MestreLion> something like "reposize maverick amd64"
[10:00] <ikonia> MestreLion: just do a dummy rsync on the mirror - it will give you the size
[10:01] <MestreLion> quiescens: sure, no one can install *all* packages, since there are conflicting ones (like wine1.2 and wine1.3), but i can ignore those corner cases for a ballpark estimative
[10:01] <MestreLion> ikonia: I'm planning on parsing Packages.gz for the given distro/release/arch
[10:02] <mato__> hey guys, somebody help how to make facebook chats on ubuntu? :(
[10:02] <MestreLion> my problem was how to deal with security, updates, backports, etc
[10:03] <MestreLion> mato__: define "make chats". Isn't Gwibber enough?
[10:04] <mato__> Mestrelion, am a newbie in ubuntu
[10:04] <MestreLion> ikonia: so, if it is safe to assume that all packages in security are just a higher version of an existing package in main, and considering their size is usually similar, I can simply ignore security/updates/backports and still have a nice estimative, correct?
[10:05] <MestreLion> mato__: what version are you using?
[10:05] <ikonia> MestreLion: sounds reasonable
[10:05] <douglaslucas> does a sudo apt-get always use a default repository unless told otherwise?
[10:05] <douglaslucas> *the same default repository
[10:06] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: nope... it uses the repository that contains the most recent version of a given package
[10:06] <ikonia> douglaslucas: the repos are hardcoded, some of the hosts are load blancers
[10:06] <mato__> MestreLion: am running on ubuntu 11 and a mozzila browser
[10:06] <ikonia> douglaslucas: it will use the repo that is hardcoded into your apt config
[10:07] <douglaslucas> ok one Feb 2012 forum post about my exact same model is suggesting:
[10:07] <mato__> MestreLion:  I googled and got this command: sudo dpkg -i pidgin-facebookchat-1.38.deb
[10:07] <MestreLion> mato__: no need
[10:08] <douglaslucas> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings        followed by    sudo nvidia-xconfig     which creats /etc/X11/xorg.conf    then reboot
[10:08] <mato__> MestreLion: then the command produces error " Command not found"!
[10:08] <MestreLion> mato__: you can use either facebook.com's website, OR, if you want a standalone app for facebook chat, use Gwibber... it is pre-installed in Ubuntu 11.10...
[10:08] <anudaasa> helou, i have question, how can i give my program to depository ?
[10:09] <[Si]> douglaslucas that will install the nvidia blob drivers (closed)
[10:09] <vta> Hello everyone
[10:09] <[Si]> hey vta
[10:09] <MestreLion> mato__: golden hint: NEVER, EVER run commands that you googled in random blogs if you are dont 100% understand what it does
[10:09] <douglaslucas> last time I tried switching to the nvidia proprietary driver (using the help.ubuntu.com guide), I didn't install nvidia-settings or do an -xconfig
[10:10] <mato__> MestreLion: Oh, I get that
[10:10] <[Si]> you may wish to check Bumblebee works with the proprietary driver or your battery life will be shocking.
[10:10] <douglaslucas> what's bumblebee?
[10:10] <douglaslucas> power manager?
[10:10] <[Si]> it would appear you have 2 gpus
[10:11] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: combining both mine and ikonia's answer: you have a list of repositories that Ubuntu will search for when you apg-get install a package. If the sotfware is found in more than 1 of them, the one it downloads and installs is the one with the most recent version #
[10:11] <anudaasa> douglas: fat flying insect :-)
[10:11] <[Si]> as Oer pointed out (and I totaly missed) Bumblebee supports this "Optimus" tech.
[10:11] <mato__> MetreLion: How is the best way to learn ubuntu, if forums are dangerous?
[10:12] <MestreLion> mato__: click on the Ubuntu icon, and type "gwibber"... or type "social", it will also work
[10:12] <anudaasa> mato: how forum is dangerous ?
[10:12] <[Si]> the idea is the intel GPU (Low power) runs almost everything then the Nvidia one is activated for the graphics intensive stuff, bumblebee does this for you.
[10:12] <douglaslucas> ah ok checking out the Bumblebee page now
[10:12] <anudaasa> mato: sorry, which forum is dangerous ?
[10:12] <ikonia> MestreLion: https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <ikonia> oops
[10:13] <ikonia> sorry
[10:13] <MestreLion> mato__: forums are not dangerous... but don't run commands you find there unless you read about them, study them, and understand what they do
[10:13] <ikonia> mato__: https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <vta> i have some questions about printer driver
[10:13] <[Si]> anudaasa people sometimes think it's funny to post commands that can kill your system, if you don't know linux they you may just run them blind.
[10:13] <nothingspecial> mato__, Do you have a problem at ubuntuforums.org
[10:13] <anudaasa> how can i give my program to depository ?
[10:14] <MestreLion> mato__: because some commands may not apply to your particular version / system... it may be outdated... it may require something else... or it may be plain wrong
[10:14] <quiescens> to be perfectly fair, its not really "forums" per se, so much as, "most of the internet", including this channel
[10:14] <anudaasa> si: ok :-)
[10:14] <MestreLion> very true quiescens
[10:14] <nothingspecial> If you see a dangerous command please report it and the staff will deal with it
[10:15] <vta> Is there any way to install Canon series on armel?
[10:15] <zlynx1> vta: what is armel ?
[10:15] <douglaslucas> Si: should I install the nvidia closed drivers first or Bumblebee or does it matter?
[10:16] <anudaasa> si: i have firewall, so, nobody can kill my system :-)
[10:16] <MestreLion> mato__: for example, the command you posted will install a package named pidgin-facebookchat-1.38.deb , ***provided that this packaged is already downloaded to the local hard drive, to current directory**
[10:16] <Oer> douglaslucas, the bumblebee ppa provides de driver and the switch
[10:16] <douglaslucas> ah ok
[10:16] <vta> armel just likes i386 or adm64
[10:16] <douglaslucas> so straight to Bumblebee (and maybe ask the #Bumblebee folks first :)
 Thats nice info, I really appreciate
[10:17] <[Si]> douglaslucas that would be a good plan, I don't have any hybrid kit here to test with.
[10:17] <Oer> douglaslucas, yes, good idea, but be carefull, bublebee is not perfect yet. it still uses double X
[10:17] <douglaslucas> double X?
[10:17] <MestreLion> mato__: but manually downloading .deb files and installing from local hard drive is usually NOT a good idea... and it should never be your *first* approach.... for that, use Software Center... he is your dearest friend if you are a newcomer
 Av been in windows for too long and I think ubuntu is fantastic
[10:18] <anudaasa> yes, install from internet
 where do i get the software center?
[10:19] <MestreLion> mato__: in Windows world is common practice to hunt .EXEs in thw wild web, download and run them... that is NOT a good practice in Ubuntu
[10:19] <nothingspecial> mato_ if you are unsure of any command you find on ubuntuforums just ask
[10:19] <MestreLion> mato__: in Ubuntu you have a VERY convenient Software Center, where you can *safetly* download more than 30.000 software
[10:20] <anudaasa> yes, i am using Ubuntu Software Center
 this is surely a good place to be, yet i feel like a kid, yet in windows am my own guru hahahah
[10:21] <MestreLion> mato__: it automatically chooses the version and architechture that best fits YOUR system... downloads and installs them with a single click
[10:21] <bluefrog> MestreLion, not a good practice in W either
[10:22] <douglaslucas> Can a 64-bit OS (well, specifically, Ocelot) run 32-bit programs like WINE?
[10:22] <vta> Does any1 install Canon printer on armel?
[10:22] <MestreLion> mato__: so until you are more familiar with Ubuntu, stick with Software Center *only* for getting new software... it will save you a LOT of headaches until you are more confortable
[10:22] <sipior> douglaslucas: yes. there are 32-bit support libraries you'll need to grab as well.
[10:23] <mato__> This is great piece of advice
[10:23] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: generally, no. But some packages allows this if they are compatible with ia32-libs... wine is one of them
[10:23] <douglaslucas> siplor: okay, thanks. Install the libraries before or after installing Bumblebee + rebooting ?
[10:23] <douglaslucas> *the 32-bit libraries
[10:24] <MestreLion> true bluefrog ... but in Windows you have no other choice... there is no Software Center... you are FORCED to hunt down websites and download executables from unkown sources
[10:24] <MestreLion> mato__: use TAB to auto-complete nicknames here... ;)
[10:25] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: before
[10:25] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: wait... *how* are you installing Bumblee ?
[10:26] <mato__> MestreLion,  wow, it works, by tabs, thanks, thats great tip!!
[10:26] <MestreLion> ;)
[10:27] <MestreLion> mato__: back to your original question... have you found gwibber ?
[10:27] <douglaslucas> MestreLion: I was planning to follow the instructions here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation , once I figure out what the one command I don't get is
[10:28] <mato__> MestreLion, thanks , I open facebook direct and now  i can chat
[10:28] <MestreLion> mato__: didn't it work before?
[10:28] <ubuntu> i cant chat
[10:28] <mato__> MestreLion,  but yesterday i tried chatting it cudnt, so i thot its some missing pluggins
[10:28] <ubuntu> no dude
[10:29] <MestreLion> no plugins needed to use facebook...
[10:29] <ubuntu> is this real chat
[10:29] <MestreLion> ubuntu: are you ok?
[10:30] <[Si]> douglaslucas which command are you unsure of?
[10:30] <mato__> yeah, now am okay, but i wud like to learn abt qwibber
[10:30] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: seems pretty straight-forwards instructions... what is not working?
[10:31] <douglaslucas> I'm not sure what "sudo usermod -a -G bumblebee $USER" means/does. And the bumblebee-project.org page says to change $USER and the wiki.ubuntu.com page says changing $USER is unnecessary :)
[10:31] <douglaslucas> I think they should have a cage match
[10:31] <[Si]> it adds your current user account to the bumblebee group
[10:31] <Wabs> Good morning everyone
[10:32] <[Si]> if you do echo $USER, it will show you what it would expand to :)
[10:32] <[Si]> hey Wabs
[10:32] <douglaslucas> ah ok cool
[10:33] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: it only means $USER can be used literallty... because bash automatically expands that to your actual username
[10:34] <mato__> MestreLion,  Thanks greatly, am going for lunch, will meet u later
[10:34] <MestreLion> altought it is weird for a video driver to require user to add to group
[10:35] <MestreLion> side-note: douglaslucas... if you don't know what usermod is or how it works, you probably should not edit /etc/sudoers
[10:35] <[Si]> MestreLion, it uses a kernel module to disable the second GPU when it's not used, I assume the group is too allow non-root users to do this.
[10:36] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: not requiring passowrd when using sudo is a VERY, VERY, EXTREMELY bad idea
[10:36] <MestreLion> [Si]: humm.. well, in this case, fair enough
[10:40] <MestreLion> oh man, sorry... the guy who was editing /etc/sudoers was Defusal , not douglaslucas ... really sorry for the confusion
[10:40] <douglaslucas> s'ok
[10:40] <douglaslucas> that's weird, the apt-get install was able to locate two of the libraries,
[10:40] <douglaslucas> but the final, third one, virtualgl-libs:i386
[10:40] <douglaslucas> *but not
[10:41] <MestreLion> because that one is in the PPA
[10:41] <douglaslucas> so then I would do,
[10:42] <MestreLion> ... or not. let me check
[10:42] <douglaslucas> sudo apt-get-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable install virtualgl-libs:i386   ?
[10:42] <MestreLion> btw... what is the relation between wine and bumblebee ?
[10:42] <douglaslucas> I don't understand how Linux switches back and forth between repositories
[10:43] <MestreLion> it doesn't... it scans all repos when you search for a package
[10:43] <[Si]> Wine needs the 32bit OpenGL
[10:43] <douglaslucas> ok, so does  add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable    just add another repository in its list of repositories to scan?
[10:43] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: exactly
[10:44] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: and then apt-get update reads all the repos and fetches the available package names
[10:44] <MestreLion> so when you open Software Center (or Synaptic, or apt-get, or aptitude), it will list packages from all these repos
[10:45] <lupzz> hi, how can I print a PDF 4-pages per sheet, correctly double-sided (p1 and p2 must be on different sides of the sheet)?
[10:45] <MestreLion> it knows wich packages (and versions) are in each repo, so you don't have to worry about that
[10:46] <bmejias> o
[10:46] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: the problem is that sometimes people add the new repository but forget to update the package list...
[10:46] <douglaslucas> ah hah
[10:47] <LMX> Hello all, can i logout my current session and get a new login screen without killing X session...I mean Xorg should not get killed and start again...
[10:47] <lupzz> I must do something like, print to PDF odd pages 4-pages per sheet, print to PDF even pages 4-pages per sheet, shuffle merge the two files in a single PDF
[10:47] <douglaslucas> cool, it worked after I ran  sudo apt-get update
[10:48] <sacarlson> LMX: yes it should work
[10:48] <Vooloo> can you remov
[10:48] <Vooloo> can you remov
[10:48] <mattiasn_> My harddrive is being detected by bios, but not shown when doing "sudo lshw _C disk". What does that mean?
[10:48] <Vooloo> ffs, can you remove the new left menu? i want to use gnome do instead
[10:49] <LMX> sacarlson, but when I logout the X session gets killed...ans starts again with a new pid...can u help me out with this
[10:49] <sacarlson> mattiasn_: not sure about the _C disk part,  maybe just sudo lshw | pastebinit ;   to see what we can see
[10:49] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: it looks like wine (and its libs) are not related to bumblegee at all... besides, 'im not sure why you would need to install the 32bits one, since there is a native 64 bits wine iin Ubuntu
[10:49] <netAction> Hi! Why doesn't apt-get install indicator-weather && reboot show the indicator in Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:49] <MestreLion> netAction: have you white-listed it?
[10:49] <netAction> MestreLion: How?
[10:50] <MestreLion> netAction: i may be wrong, but i think pannel applets are now blacklisted by default
[10:50] <The_BROS> how to convert VOB-files from VIDEO-TS folder to one file?
[10:50] <MestreLion> and you have to manually whitelist the ones you want to allow
[10:50] <sacarlson> LMX: it should put you back into a login screen that you can now login to the same or another user account
[10:50] <mattiasn_> sacarlson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/893442/
[10:50] <netAction> MestreLion: I can call the indicator in command line.
[10:51] <MestreLion> The_BROS: install handbrake
[10:51] <Fujk> can you remove the new left menu in ubuntu?
[10:51] <mattiasn_> sacarlson: how werid, it shows there when not using the "-C disk"
[10:51] <douglaslucas> ok so with the repository and the 32-bit libraries installed (just in case), I'm now going to  1) sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia  2) sudo usermod -a -G bumblebee $USER      .
[10:51] <douglaslucas> then reboot. I have all my stuff backed up and all on an external hard drive as I've been installing OS all day heh
[10:51] <LMX> sacarlson, yes i gets the login screen...but X session changes...I need Xorg session should not get killed...I am using a usb multiseat environment
[10:51] <sacarlson> mattiasn_: ya looks like they are all there now
[10:51] <MestreLion> netAction / Fujk : as for how, go to #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <mattiasn_> thanks! :)
[10:52] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: the libraries are for 32-bit version of wine... they seem not to be related with Bumblebee at all
[10:52] <[Si]> good luck douglaslucas!
[10:53] <douglaslucas> yeah, if I'm not back in a few minutes that's because it didn't work ;) (in which case I'm going to bed and messing with it tomorrow)
[10:53] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: also, rebooting is overkill
[10:53] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: as Linus once said, in Linux rebooting is for adding new hardware ;)
[10:53] <douglaslucas> hmm
[10:53] <Aufwind> Hi every body, I have a python script running by the command "nohup myscript.py > my.out &". Is see the prints of the output?
[10:53] <douglaslucas> so if I don't have to reboot, I can keep listening to M.I.A. :)
[10:54] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: and for 99% of actions you don't even need to re-login
[10:54] <[Si]> Aufwind tail -f my.out
[10:54] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: nope... because you are in the 1% that needs re-login
[10:54] <ikonia> !info gimp
[10:54] <douglaslucas> ah ok
[10:54] <douglaslucas> sorry, MIA
[10:54] <douglaslucas> here goes
[10:55] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: adding groups to a user requires that user to logout so the new group is effective
[10:55] <Aufwind> [Si], it seems like my.out has not captured all prints...
[10:55] <douglaslucas> hrm
[10:55] <douglaslucas> so after executing the usermod command,
[10:55] <[Si]> Aufwind add 2>&1 to your nohup you are missing the output to STDERR
[10:55] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: yes... the usermod is the only command there that requires you to re-login...
[10:55] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: if not, you would be able to use that immediately
[10:55] <douglaslucas> should I just logout and back in through the graphical interface in the top right (Log out)... the wheel thingie
[10:56] <ghl> Can anyone help me with this error? When im trying to install ubuntu server 11.10 i gives and error: unable to install the selected kernel ..... linux-generic-pae
[10:56] <[Si]> MestreLion he'd also need to disable KVM + the FM console stuffs
[10:56] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: yup. go ahead, and good luck :)
[10:56] <[Si]> FB console stuffs even
[10:56] <Aufwind> [Si], you mean "nohup myscript.py 2>&1 my.out &"   ?
[10:56] <[Si]> yes Aufwind
[10:56] <[Si]> no
[10:57] <MestreLion> [Si]: is he using KVM ?
[10:57] <[Si]> sorry you mean "nohup myscript.py my.out 2>&1 &
[10:57] <Aufwind> [Si], Ok thanks, again.
[10:57] <sacarlson> ghl: pick another one?
[10:57] <Deaconf19> anyone in here up?
[10:58] <[Si]> MestreLion yeah the non nvidia blob driver uses KVM (Kernel Video Mode)
[10:58] <ghl> sacarlson: it happens in the step Install the base system. How can I select another one there?
[10:58] <Aufwind> [Si], I assume, that if a process got started (without 2>&1)  there is no way to get hands on its output again? Is this right?
[10:58] <sacarlson> Deaconf19: 1546 people and counting
[10:58] <Deaconf19> wow
[10:58] <[Si]> Aufwind that's correct
[10:58] <sacarlson> ghl: is this the alternate install disk?
[10:58] <Aufwind> [Si], thank you!
[10:58] <Deaconf19> ok I was told to come here to ask how to change the LTSP Ubuntu loading image
[10:58] <Deaconf19> anyone know how to do this?
[10:58] <ghl> It is the ubuntu server 11.10 downloaded from the ubuntu site, and then burned to cd
[10:59] <ghl> 32 bit
[10:59] <MestreLion> [Si]: Humm... in this case, perhaps rebooting is really necessary... but again, the package should signal it like kernel packages do
[10:59] <Fujk> when I run live CD of new ubuntu it says I cant access my old /home partition because of permissions... so, if I reinstall will I be able to access it again or be forever locked out?
[10:59] <MestreLion> I mean, a properly built package does :D
[10:59] <[Si]> MestreLion in this case I imagine a reboot is needed :) it may also require some /etc/default/grub.conf hacking :)
[10:59] <sacarlson> Deaconf19: you want to make a custom install cd image?
[10:59] <MestreLion> Fujk: were you using an encrypted home folder?
[10:59] <Deaconf19> sacarlson, yes
[11:00] <Fujk> MestreLion, think so
 thanx. And what would be better Avidemux or Handbrake?
[11:00] <MestreLion> [Si]: which we both hope the package handles by itself...
[11:00] <[Si]> I'm with you on that one MestreLion
[11:01] <MestreLion> The_BROS: depends on usage... Handbrake is geared towards a smooth, "click here" workflow to convert DVDs to mkv files...
[11:01] <sacarlson> Deaconf19: I've never tried this one but looks cool http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[11:01] <MestreLion> The_BROS: while Avidemux handles... AVI files :P
[11:02] <bluefrog> Fujk, ll /home  if you see .ecryptfs, then you are using it. reinstalling and using same user and password. should be ok BUT you should do a capture of ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase before doing so, in  case you need to decrypt manually
[11:02] <Deaconf19> sacarlson: thanks
[11:03] <MestreLion> The_BROS: do you want to convert VIDEO_TS folders or avi files ?
 VIDEO_TS
 But sometime I need to convert one videoformat to another
[11:04] <Fujk> bluefrog, yes its there, where is the unwrap file?
[11:04] <MestreLion> The_BROS: install them both... and use whatever you like the most... they both have nice features... and none can cover all
[11:05] <douglaslucas> ok, haven't executed the second command yet, but the first, installing bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia, went well except for about ten "Possible missing firmware ... for module nouveau" messages involving the /lib/firmware/nouveau/ directory
[11:06] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: for bumblebee-specific errors, folks at #bumblebee will be able to provide you a much better support
 Thanx. I will do
[11:07] <MestreLion> douglaslucas: afterall, this is third-party software, not provided by Ubuntu repositories
[11:07] <Charlyftw> Bonjour tout le monde !
[11:08] <MestreLion> The_BROS: also, consider installing WinFF and mkvinfo
[11:08] <mattiasn_> Anybody good at getting Wifi connections up n running? I am not able to udnerstand really where the problem is located...
[11:09] <sacarlson> mattiasn_: can you see the access point of interest?
[11:10] <MestreLion> sacarlson: sarcastic note: be careful with "see"... he may reply with "yes, it is right on top of my desk"
[11:11] <sacarlson> MestreLion: yes I might of added more detail but they added none so I just folowed
[11:12] <MestreLion> i was jusk kidding anyway :)
[11:13] <Frank2> Hello everybody. I just installed Virtual Box and I have loaded an Ubuntu .iso image. It's allright but I can't see on the left of the top bar the applications menu. can you help me?
[11:14] <MestreLion> Ok folks... pro-bono support daily quota reached.. I'll go watch CSI now... cya!
[11:14] <douglaslucas> bye mestre, thanks for the help! :) :)
[11:14] <anudaasa> frank2: why you do that ?
[11:15] <no-name-> I'm trying to install a deb, on 10.04 x64, but it says "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'" ... there's no 64-bit package, so is there anything I can do?
[11:15] <mattiasn_> auto wlan0; iface wlan0 inet dhcp; wireless-essid Tottenhem
[11:15] <sacarlson> MestreLion: ok and that paycheck is in the mail,  thanks for your assistance
[11:15] <mattiasn_> sacarlson: Yes I can, but sudo ifup wlan0 yields weird results. However not I managed to connect by modifying /etc/network/interfaces I added lines:
[11:15] <mattiasn_> auto wlan0; iface wlan0 inet dhcp; wireless-essid Tottenhem
[11:15] <no-name-> I know you can install x86 stuff on x64 windows
[11:15] <Frank2> anudaasa: I need to test a server environment. but it's strange this thing... I can't access programs...terminal...
[11:15] <mattiasn_> That seemed to make it work after doing sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:15] <lupzz> how can I print an a6 double-sided leaflet using an a4 duplex printer?
[11:16] <mattiasn_> I need to restart and see if it works automatically now..
[11:16] <sacarlson> mattiasn_: sounds good to me
[11:17] <Xabster-lap> Skype closes after 5 seconds or so when I try to run it... if I run it in a terminal it stays open until i close the terminal... how do i fix it so that it will stay running without a terminal window open?
[11:17] <anudaasa> Frank2: Ubuntu is good, there is no need to test
[11:19] <Frank2> anudaasa: yes I know, but this is not my machine, I can't do what I want, so virtualization is a temporary solution. According to you, what is the problem? I can see everything on the desktop, but not the menu in the top left bar. probably it's a trivial issue...
[11:19] <anudaasa> Xabster-lap: maybe reinstall skype
[11:20] <anudaasa> Frank2: can you boot cd of Ubuntu ?
[11:22] <Frank2> anudaasa: unfortunately I can't at this moment. I would burn the image, but I have not cds with me.
[11:23] <anudaasa> Frank2: can you do reboot ?
[11:23] <saju_ma> Error: Directory not empty,  while trying to remove a directory after killing copy operation running on it.http://dpaste.com/719428/
[11:23] <marysia> witam serdecznie . Jestem swieżym linuxowcem i sprawdzam różne rzeczy czy działaja
[11:23] <Frank2> anudaasa: I'm thinking about a monitor limitation, so I can't see the menu bar... I don't know.... Yes I have rebooted the machine. it works perfectly...
[11:23] <anudaasa> Frank2: fine :-)
[11:25] <Frank2> anudaasa: it's strange because I can see th time and other icons on the right top bar, why I can't see the application menu.
[11:25] <anudaasa> Frank2: i was same problem, there is program named Application Finder
[11:26] <anudaasa> in Application Finder are all installed programs, this is in new version, but this is no so big problem
[11:28] <Frank2> anudaasa: sorry actually the reboot is ok, but still I have the problem :-( Where can I find the appilcation finder?
[11:30] <anudaasa> Frank2: xfce4-appfinder
[11:31] <anudaasa> Frank2: install xfce4-appfinder
[11:31] <Xabster-lap> if anyone had to save error as me with skype, here's an easy fix (rename your ~/.Skype/shared.xml file to something else or delete it if you don't want a backup)
[11:31] <macele> Frank2: Do you have a bar on the left side of your screen?
[11:31] <kylen> Frank2: alt+F2 and type xfce2-appfinder if you don`t have panel
[11:31] <Xabster-lap> "had to save"
[11:31] <Xabster-lap> i wrote had the same*
[11:31] <Xabster-lap> what is this fucking autocomplete spell check
[11:31] <Mandy__> Hi! Can someone help me with my internet sharing? The wireless stops working when my laptop disconnects.  Have to keep my Ipod plugged in 24/7 to keep the internet sharing up!!!
[11:32] <Mandy__> Made sure power management on the wireless card is turned off, can't think of what else it could be.
[11:32] <Xabster-lap> can you turn it back on without the ipod plugged in?
[11:33] <Mandy__> Yes by resetting the whole network.
[11:33] <Mandy__> which is inconvienent to say the least, as I run the ubuntu box headless.
[11:33] <Xabster-lap> yeah, you definitely shouldn't have to do that
[11:33] <Xabster-lap> gotta go, my stop's here
[11:33] <AlanBell> adhitya: please ask in the channel if you have a question
[11:33] <Xabster-lap> fast train!
[11:34] <adhitya> i want to ask about my ubuntu server
[11:34] <Mandy__> Well at least my Ipod stays charged all the time, lol!
[11:35] <lolmaus> Hi! My server is running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid) Server Edition. I would like to upgrade it to 11.10 (Oneiric). How do i do that?
[11:35] <Frank2> anudaasa macele kylen:Ok here we go. I have started it. yes I can run commands... it's the first icon on the top of the left bar. ok> I have started it.
[11:35] <kylen> lolmaus: apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[11:36] <adhitya> how do i configure ntp server on my ubuntu ?
[11:37] <lolmaus> kylen, why not do-release-upgrade?
[11:37] <Frank2> anudaasa macele kylen: But how can I show  the application menu on the top bar?
[11:37] <kylen> adhitya: cat /etc/ntp.conf and look at line about server
[11:37] <adhitya> ok thanks..
[11:37] <kylen> adhitya: when you type right server ten 'service ntp restart'
[11:38] <adhitya> oke thanks..
[11:38] <LMX> Hello all, can i logout my current session and get a new login screen without killing X session...I mean Xorg should not get killed and start again...
[11:38] <kylen> np
[11:38] <kylen> lolmaus: first do backup all config file ( etc. samba itp. )
[11:38] <anudaasa> Frank2:  i like ubuntu without application menu :-) ,,, it is like wmware :-)
[11:39] <kylen> anudaasa: hehe
[11:39] <anudaasa> sorry windowmaker
[11:41] <Frank2> anudaasa: :-) if you are saying that the new version does not include the application menu on the bar btu this new feature for me it's ok. I have thinking that was a problem of Virtual Box...
[11:42] <anudaasa> Frank2: no, its no problem
[11:42] <noaXess> hey..
[11:43] <Mandy__> Ubuntu just needs to stop being so buggy.
[11:43] <macele> Frank2: No it's just the new way, you can install gone-session-fallback if you like the old way
[11:43] <Estragon> Im trying to resize a partition using a ubuntu live usb and gparted
[11:43] <macele> *gnome-session-fallback
[11:43] <noaXess> i changed from kde to unity ubuntu-desktop... removed all unneeded kde packages and installed ubuntu-desktop.. works all fine...
[11:43] <Estragon> the step "shrink file system" is taking forever
[11:43] <noaXess> but now.. if i start thunderbird, cpu goes to 20-40% usage for thunderbird.. any idea?
[11:44] <auronandace> Estragon: what size was it and what size are you shrinking it to?
[11:44] <Estragon> im resizing a partition from 280GiB to 230GiB
[11:44] <auronandace> Estragon: what fs too?
[11:44] <Mandy__> Try telling it not to be so nice, noaxess.
[11:44] <Frank2> anudaasa: ok perfect for me is enough. thank you very much for your help!!! probably I need an ubuntu server instead of a classic ubuntu
[11:44] <noaXess> Mandy__: ?
[11:44] <Mandy__> man nice
[11:44] <Estragon> auronandace: I believe it's ext4 (its the main partition from my existing ubuntu install)
[11:45] <anudaasa> Frank2: maybe
[11:45] <noaXess> ahh :)
[11:45] <Frank2> macele: thank you macele! now I have the change to do everything!
[11:45] <noaXess> Mandy__: but that can't be the solution.. right?
[11:45] <auronandace> Estragon: wow, why do you have a ubuntu / partition as 200+ GB?
[11:46] <anudaasa> Frank2: by the way, how you do whispering ?
[11:46] <Kk2> the package xmonad is brother on 12.04? cause i installed with apt-get choose xmonad on gdm but doest worked :S
[11:46] <Mandy__> As far as I can tell, I'm the only person on the planet with my ubuntu problem.
[11:46] <Estragon> auronandace: I have a single hard drive and I gave all the space to ubuntu
[11:46] <Mandy__> Lots of people with wifi not working after sleep, but none with it no working unless you keep an Ipod plugged in.
[11:47] <auronandace> Estragon: how full is it while you are resizing?
[11:47] <Estragon> auronandace: about 180 GiB are used
[11:47] <auronandace> Estragon: ah, yes, that would take a little while i would expect
[11:47] <auronandace> Estragon: how long have you been waiting?
[11:48] <Estragon> auronandace: about 10 minutes made me believe something was wrong
[11:48] <auronandace> Estragon: just 10 mins?
[11:48] <Frank2> anudaasa: Sorry I can't undestand your question...
[11:48] <anudaasa> Frank2: anyway
[11:48] <Mandy__> It takes a lot longer than 10 minutes to copy 180g lol
[11:48] <anudaasa> Frank2: never mind
[11:49] <mhts> hi guys. i want to download a new cd. do you know any channels to get info about how to do this?
[11:49] <Mandy__> There also might be some large files it's having difficulty fitting properly in the new partition, so it's moving small files around and around and around.
[11:49] <auronandace> Estragon: out of curiosity, how did you manage to fill up that partition to use 180gb?
[11:50] <Estragon> auronandace: media files on my home
[11:50] <Frank2> anudaasa: ok, pefect. thank you again, I try apply your advices, and probably I will let you know :-) see you soon
[11:50] <auronandace> Estragon: i keep a seperate storage partition for my files
[11:51] <Estragon> auronandace: yep, Im doing that too on my other computers but this one is a little older, when I was young :)
[11:51] <Estragon> another question : what filesystem should I use to prepare a windows install ? ntfs or fat32 (or other ?)
[11:52] <auronandace> Estragon: ntfs
[11:52] <Estragon> thanks
[11:52] <anudaasa> Estragon: from fat32 you can change to ntfs
[11:52] <auronandace> anudaasa: not really, you'd need to reformat
[11:53] <anudaasa> Estragon: fat32 has big restriction
[11:53]  * Jacta_ says hi
[11:53] <Estragon> ok
[11:53] <auronandace> Estragon: only xp can install onto fat32 now