[03:31] <jrib> tators: that means you set a root password.  Did you forget that too?
[03:31] <tators> yea
[03:31] <HealthyElijah> MasterShrek: Thanks
[03:31] <tators> I am the root
[03:32] <Rageon> is /root (root) or is / (root) ?
[03:32] <MasterShrek> Rageon, / is the root directory, /root is the user root's home directory
[03:32] <Rageon> ahh ok
[03:32] <jrib> tators: huh?  What do you mean by "I am the root"?  Didn't you say it was asking you for a password?
[03:32] <tators> yeah
[03:32] <danyn> /root is the user profile for the root user, / is the root of the filesystem
[03:32] <tators> I press f11
[03:32] <tators> then it counts down 1,2,3
[03:32] <sayers> With openoffice if  I make a bussiness card will it make multiple and fill page or just one big one?
[03:32] <danyn> what mastershrek said :)
[03:32] <tators> then goes to the orange ubuntu screen
[03:32] <mm23> how can i start & stop my internet connection from the terminal ?
[03:33] <dv310p3r> Ok, need help with built in SD card reader. When i run dmesg after a fresh reboot, nothing shows on the last line, after inserting a SD card, this is what shows: [10889.428000]  tifm_core: SmartMedia/xD card detected in socket 0:0. How can I gain access to the file?
[03:33] <Rageon> so its like.. when it pops up asking me for a password its not actually asking for root? just my home accounts root?
[03:33] <fpreto> Man_id_Unknown: sorry for not being useful =]
[03:33] <tators> and asks what my username: then password: are
[03:33] <MasterShrek> mm23, ifconfig
[03:33] <avt3kk>  guys I just installed wine and im looking to install an exe but how
 im in the terminal and I changed directory to the user folder its in now what do I do??
[03:33] <MasterShrek> mm23, u need to use sudo
[03:33] <Man_id_Unknown> fpreto: Don't be. Remember, I don't have the answer to my question either.
[03:33] <MasterShrek> Rageon, yes, i believe thats the password for sudo
[03:33] <jrib> tators: right, because you set a root password which isn't needed.  Now you have to either edit the grub line and set "init=/bin/sh" or boot a live cd and chroot to your install so you can reset the password
[03:33] <pike_> Rageon: your user is a member of the admin group. this group has been added to the /etc/sudoers file and so can execute root stuff using sudo
[03:34] <Rageon> mm ic
[03:34] <tators> edit the grub line?
[03:34] <sasa> MasterShrek: thank you for the multiverse comment....that worked. However, when I try to install dvd::rip, I get an error message saying "could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade...following packages have unresolvable dependencies. Make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences"
[03:34] <Psyber> Does anyone know the name of the Linux app launcher similar to the one on the mac?
[03:34] <MasterShrek> sasa what packages need dependencies?
[03:34] <jrib> Psyber: deskbar?
[03:34] <sasa> MasterShrek: dvdrip:
[03:34] <sasa>  Depends: transcode but it is not going to be installed
[03:34] <sasa>  Depends: gtk2-ex-formfactory-perl (>=0.65) but it is not installable
[03:34] <sasa>  Depends: libevent-execflow-perl (>=0.62) but it is not installable
[03:34] <sasa>  Depends: lsdvd but it is not going to be installed
[03:34] <sasa>  Depends: libevent-perl  but it is not installable
[03:34] <sasa>  Depends: ogmtools  but it is not installable
[03:34] <Rageon> still confusing.. i set a password for /root and one for /home/... but they change to become the same?
[03:35] <Xero> Psyber, KXdocker or OSXdock
[03:35] <Emperor886> Does anyone here know how to reset the Xorg.conf file from the command line after it has been backed up then changed?
[03:35] <jrib> !paste | sasa
[03:35] <ubotu> sasa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:35] <dv310p3r> Ok, need help with built in SD card reader. When i run dmesg after a fresh reboot, nothing shows on the last line, after inserting a SD card, this is what shows: [10889.428000]  tifm_core: SmartMedia/xD card detected in socket 0:0. How can I gain access to the file?
[03:35] <Man_id_Unknown> Help: Does anyone here have experience with GCC ??
[03:35] <pike_> Rageon: root password is disabled by default
[03:35] <Psyber> Xero:  wouldetn KXdocker be for KDE?
[03:35] <jrib> Emperor886: sudo cp /path/to/your/old/xorg.conf /path/to/your/new/xorg.conf
[03:35] <MasterShrek> sasa, does it say waht packages they conflict with?
[03:35] <Xero> Psyber, yes.
[03:35] <jrib> !anyone | Man_id_Unknown
[03:35] <ubotu> Man_id_Unknown: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:35] <sasa> MasterShrek: that is all it lists in there...
[03:36] <Rageon> pike_ im not setting / im trying to /root
[03:36] <sasa> how could I find out?
[03:36] <Emperor886> jrib: I dont know the path's, I screwed up my Xorg.conf file and I can only get the command line when I boot Ubuntu now. I am using Puppylinux now.
[03:36] <sasa> maybe some pearl stuff??
[03:36] <Man_id_Unknown> Help: Does anyone know how to strip unecessary proc names from a shared lib ?
[03:36] <jrib> Rageon: you set the password for root.  Does 'su' in a terminal not work wiht that password now?
[03:36] <MasterShrek> sasa, do you have universe enabled also?
[03:36] <sasa> I do not, should I?
[03:36] <danyn> sasa>yes
[03:36] <MasterShrek> yes
[03:36] <jrib> Emperor886: so you don't know where the backup is?
[03:36] <sasa> cool, I'll do it now
[03:37] <MasterShrek> sasa, i usually enable all the ones that are listed, plus i usually end up adding a few more :)
[03:37] <jrattner> Question: How can I sync my google calendar with evolution?
[03:37] <Emperor886> jrib: It is backed up in the default place that Ubuntu would back it up in, but I have no idea where that is.
[03:37] <Rageon> i cant seem to explain myself :s
[03:37] <tators> ok so I'm reinstalling linux
[03:37] <tators> or starting from the live cd
[03:37] <jrib> Emperor886: what did you use?  dpkg-reconfigure?
[03:37] <tators> whatever its called
[03:37] <tators> how do I chroot
[03:37] <jrib> tators: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[03:37] <tators> ok jrib
[03:37] <Rageon> basically when i goto install stuff in Syn package Manager.. it asks for password.. but the password is the same password i login with?
[03:38] <jrib> tators: join us here when you are on the livecd
[03:38] <pike_> Rageon: yes
[03:38] <danyn> rageon>yes
[03:38] <tators> I am on the cd now
[03:38] <jrib> Rageon: yes, that is intended
[03:38] <Rageon> hmmm ok
[03:38] <Emperor886> jrib: I gave the command 'sudo nvidia-glx-new enable' figuring that would render better, and Ubuntu automatically made a backup of my Xorg.conf file.
[03:38] <jrib> tators: mount your ubuntu partition
[03:38] <Psyber> Xero:  is there something that will run on Gnome that will act like the launch bar in OSX?
[03:38] <tators> what does that mean jrib
[03:38] <MasterShrek> Rageon, root is the user that has control of everything, the super mega god user, low life users, like your user that you log in with are given access to commands that only the root user should be able to execute, so they made sudo to do it
[03:38] <Xero> Psyber, OSXdock
[03:38] <danyn> tators>are you trying to log in as root?
[03:38] <Xero> I don't know where you'll get it, but it exists.
[03:39] <tators> danyn: I just want to log in, but because it is my pc, I want full access again
[03:39] <jrib> Emperor886: you do this 'cd /etc/X11'.  Then list what you see with 'ls'.  Then look for the backup (will be xorg.conf.blahblahblah or similar).  Then 'cp xorg.conf.blahblahblah xorg.conf'
[03:39] <sasa> MasterShrek: i'm in business...it's downloading now. Thank you!
[03:39] <tators> (Even if I don't log in as root anymore)
[03:39] <carlosV2> hello, i'm here another time jeje
[03:39] <MasterShrek> Xero, did you get your video card working? or was that someone else named Xero? theres a few lol
[03:39] <danyn> tators>if you are logged in on the live cd you have sudo rights, so you shouldnt need to login as root
[03:39] <carlosV2> i've a problem with IRDA :(
[03:39] <jrib> tators: do you know what partition your ubuntu is on?
[03:40] <carlosV2> $ sudo modprobe irda0
[03:40] <carlosV2> Password:
[03:40] <carlosV2> FATAL: Error inserting nsc_ircc (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/net/irda/nsc-ircc.ko): No such device
[03:40] <tators> ok, but I don't want to keep logging in on the livecd
[03:40] <jrib> !paste | carlosV2
[03:40] <ubotu> carlosV2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:40] <Xero> MasterShrek, I'm the one that has the name registered. If anyone comes in here under my nick without a comcast host, it's not me.
[03:40] <tators> it is my entire computer
[03:40] <Xero> My video card has been working for a month.
[03:40] <Rageon> how do you tell whos Oped and who not in Pidgin?
[03:40] <carlosV2> ups, i'm sorry :S
[03:40] <EvilAIM> asynews.com
[03:40] <Rageon> can i use Bitch-x on ubuntu?
[03:40] <danyn> tator>did you want to install linux to your computer?
[03:40] <MasterShrek> i didnt know if u were regged Xero :)
[03:40] <sasa> MasterShrek: I do have one more question: I installed K3b. Upon its startup, I get a message:  please install the MAD Mp3 decoding library as well as the K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin (the latter may already be installed but not functional due to the missing libmad). I installed package libmad0, but I still get the same error message. Any thoughts?
[03:40] <carlosV2> jrib, i'm sorry for paste here
[03:40] <jrib> Rageon: sure, install bitchx with your favorite package manager
[03:40] <Rageon> sorry its not pidgin its umm... x-chat
[03:40] <jrib> !info bitchx > Rageon
[03:41] <tators> danyn: linux is already on my computer, but I forgot the root password so I am rebooting with the livecd because I was told that is the first step to fixing hte problem
[03:41] <DarwinAwrdWinner> sasa, it told you to install two things. You installed only one of them
[03:41] <carlosV2> jrib, here is mi problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38416/
[03:41] <Emperor886> jrib: Thanks, will be back if it doesn't work.
[03:41] <danyn> tators>ah, i see. well can you log into your normal account on your computer without the live cd?
[03:41] <jrib> carlosV2: tell the channel, I don't know anything about that
[03:41] <Rageon> what do you guys use? if i had a half decent irc client id just version but yer lol
[03:41] <DarwinAwrdWinner> I believe the package you are looking for has "k3b" in the name, so searching for it should be easy
[03:41] <tators> danyn: no I can not log into the computer at all
[03:41] <Man_id_Unknown> Help: Does anyone know how to strip unecessary proc names from a shared lib ?
[03:41] <MasterShrek> sasa, try install libmad0-dev
[03:41] <jrib> Rageon: irssi is nice
[03:42] <jrib> tators: so, partition?
[03:42] <tators> jrib: partition what?
[03:42] <MasterShrek> sasa, and madplay if that still doesnt work
[03:42] <jrib> tators: do you know the partition ubuntu is on?
[03:42] <ep1> is there yahoo messenger for ubuntu ? there is one for debian and it isnt working
[03:42] <tators> jrib: I put it on my entire computer, I don't know what you are asking
[03:42] <Rageon> anyone here seen let it ride with richard drayfus?
[03:42] <jrib> ep1: use gaim
[03:42] <DarwinAwrdWinner> how about the libk3b2-mp3 package?
[03:42] <tators> jrib: there is no other os on this computer
[03:42] <jrib> tators: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:42] <MasterShrek> Rageon, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:42] <Rageon> rgr
[03:43] <carlosV2> ok, you gave me this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto and i'm doing all but i've a problem with number 12 and the shell say this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38416/ (sorry for mi bad english, i'm from spain -.-)
[03:43] <ep1> jrib: I want to use the voice-in voice out of yahoo messenger, gaim doesnt have that option
[03:43] <danyn> caronte23>did you get it working?
[03:43] <nomasteryoda> kopete?
[03:43] <ep1> jrib: voice-in has an actual phone number assigned to it
[03:43] <underwatercow> Does any know why one of the programs I run wine with suddenly no longer accepts keyboard input? Is there a way I can fix it? or maybe reset whatever was messed up?
[03:43] <caronte23> danyn, noo
[03:43] <Man_id_Unknown> Help: How do I strip unecessary proc names from a shared lib ?
[03:43] <MasterShrek> ep1, google for an ubuntu package of it
[03:43] <caronte23> danyn, It can't find the package
[03:44] <danyn> caronte23>did you add the repositories in step 1?
[03:44] <MasterShrek> ep1, if u cant find one, the debian package should work fine also
[03:44] <nomasteryoda> underwatercow, did you just start using compiz?
[03:44] <Rageon> should i be using a different Package manager then what comes installed?
[03:44] <caronte23> danyn, caurse
[03:44] <MasterShrek> ep1, nvm, u said the debian pack doesnt work
[03:44] <caronte23> danyn, course
[03:44] <slashzul> how do you find out what package /usr/sbin/apachectl belongs to?
[03:44] <ep1> MasterShrek: yes I think it showed dependency problem
[03:44] <MasterShrek> Rageon, synaptic should work perfectly fine, theres also apt-get which is the command line version of it
[03:44] <underwatercow> nomasteryoda: Only desktop effects, which I disabled because it messed with wine. Also, keyboard is fine in other programs I run in wine... just in a particular one.
[03:45] <pike_> Rageon: i think youre expecting this to be harder than it is. i know its an adjustment but everything normally 'just works' :)
[03:45] <slashzul> I keep trying to install lamp server and get a fail with no /usr/sbin/apachectl is not executable
[03:45] <danyn> caronte>hold on one sec im reading over the page i sent you
[03:45] <Rageon> MasterShrek: cheers mate
[03:45] <MasterShrek> ep1, youll probably need the same dependency with an ubuntu package, what did it need?
[03:45] <krammer> need help installing ProFTPD 1.2
[03:45] <ep1> MasterShrek: ok sorry I think I need this sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.6
[03:45] <MasterShrek> probably ep1
[03:45] <DarwinAwrdWinner> slashzul, apt-file is a command-line utility file for searching for files in packages, installed or not
[03:45] <caronte23> danyn, ok
[03:45] <slashzul> how do you find out what package /usr/sbin/apachectl belongs to?
[03:45] <Rageon> pike_ yea its been over 2 years since i last used linux its alot more streamlined now :)
[03:45] <tarelerulz> I am really lost I updated my router and I still don't have udp and tcp  at the same time on port forwarding . I need it for azureus .   Is there other clients that don't need that?
[03:45] <DarwinAwrdWinner> apt-file search /usr/sbin/apachectl
[03:46] <slashzul> where is apachectl found ?
[03:46] <sasa> MasterShrek: I installed libmad dev and madplay and I still get the same message upon K3b startup
[03:46] <dubphiend> this is all over my head
[03:46] <DarwinAwrdWinner> of course, you have to install apt-file if it's not installed
[03:46] <MasterShrek> tarelerulz, ktorrent, transmission, or utorrent under wine should work fine
[03:46] <nomasteryoda> underwatercow, i have not seen that, but have had issues with compiz and other desktop apps...
[03:46] <DarwinAwrdWinner> sasa, how about the libk3b2-mp3 package?
[03:46] <jrib> slashzul: or use packages.ubuntu.com
[03:46] <carlosV2> somebody can help me with Fast IRDA Port, please?
[03:46] <nomasteryoda> underwatercow, make sure the process is not running and you are spawning a second one... that can cause such issues
[03:46] <Rageon> currently trying to see if i can configure it enough to make it usable for all the PC's in my house - and as ive discovered it all depends on me lol
[03:47] <underwatercow> nomasteryoda: I've tried restarting, and it still doesn't work
[03:47] <riot\hates\wifi> boo. hiss. my feisty cd isn't in my drive :'(
[03:47] <danyn> caronte23>well if you followed the page exactly like it said, there shouldnt be a problem that i see
[03:47] <MasterShrek> sasa, type locate libmad, mine are in /usr/lib dont paste the results here though, youll get kicked
[03:47] <Rageon> how come ubuntu server doesnt come with a GUI?
[03:47] <ep1> MasterShrek: It cant find libssl0.9.6
[03:47] <riot\hates\wifi> Rageon: cause uh, it's a server?
[03:47] <underwatercow> Ragon: because you don't typically want a GUI for a server
[03:48] <carlosV2> other cuestion, can i connect with Freenode by other port than 6667?
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> maybe do a wineconfig and review settings ... adding the app you need to the list of applications... that's my extent of knowhow on this.
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> hope you can get it working
[03:48] <riot\hates\wifi> and servers are typically not where one would use a GUI
[03:48] <MasterShrek> ep1, sudo apt-get install libssl
[03:48] <caronte23> danyn, I did what it sayd...
[03:48] <krammer> need help installing ProFTPD 1.2
[03:48] <danyn> caronte>join me in #ubuntu-caronte and ill guide you thru it
[03:49] <riot\hates\wifi> carlosV2: i dont see why not... i'm sure they have more than one port open
[03:49] <Psyber> Xero: are you sure it is called OSXdock?  google cannot seem to find it, nor symantic
[03:49] <Emperor886> jrib: There was no xorg.conf.blahblahblah file. =/
[03:49] <ep1> MasterShrek: E: Package libssl has no installation candidate
[03:49] <jrib> Emperor886: what was there?
[03:49] <Xero> Psyber, yes.
[03:49] <carlosV2> riot\hates\wifi, thanks, i use X-Chat. do you know how can i do it?
[03:49] <Rageon> ty u all for answering my stupid question, rest assured i never ask them twice and if anyone asks the same question i can answer it so u dont have to :)
[03:49] <Rageon> questions*
[03:49] <underwatercow> nomasteryoda: I ran wineprefixcreate and it fixed my problem ;-D
[03:49] <pj1976> HI, I'm using xgl and have I don't believe I have hardware acceleration.  I can't run fgl_glxgears How can I check?
[03:49] <MasterShrek> ep1, try libssl0.9.8
[03:50] <Emperor886> X, Xserver, xorg.conf, display-session-options, and some other stuff, but nothing to do with the .conf file.
[03:50] <ep1> MasterShrek: it says already have newest version uggh
[03:50] <riot\hates\wifi> carlosV2: it's been so long since i've used xchat, and i'm using win right now so i cant check. uhmmm maybe /server irc.freenode.net <port>
[03:50] <sasa> MasterShrek: I reinstalled those two packages and it worked!!
[03:51] <sasa> you are brilliant!
[03:51] <sasa> wow
[03:51] <sasa> I mean
[03:51] <MasterShrek> :)
[03:51] <sasa> that is gerat
[03:51] <Xero> http://www.hackitlinux.com/50226711/mac_os_x_dock_for_linux.php
[03:51] <tarelerulz> Is  azureus really picky or all  bit torrents need both tcp and udp to work ?  In the past it has not been problem under portforwdeing my router had both working at the same time ,but it dead on me
[03:51] <riot\hates\wifi> i should really start labeling CDs :o
[03:51] <carlosV2> uoooo, realy thanks, riot\hates\wifi. i will test it the next day. thanks again
[03:51] <Emperor886> jrib: X, Xserver, xorg.conf, display-session-options, and some other stuff, but nothing to do with the .conf file.
[03:51] <MasterShrek> ep1, try this: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 /usr/libssl.so.0.9.6
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> underwatercow, nice one .. will have to remember that
[03:52] <MasterShrek> ep1, its kinda a hack, but there probably isnt much of a difference from 0.9.6 to 0.9.8 so itll prolly work
[03:52] <Rageon> is this universe/multiverse thing in Synaptic PM?
[03:52] <carlosV2> i return to mi first cuestion. somebody knows how to config a Fast IRDA port?
[03:52] <Xero> Psyber http://www.hackitlinux.com/50226711/mac_os_x_dock_for_linux.php
[03:52] <atlfalcons866> is there a kubuntu room
[03:53] <Xero> atlfalcons866, yes. #kubuntu
[03:53] <IdleOne> !universe | Rageon
[03:53] <jrib> Emperor886: I don't know then.  You'll have to try reading the documentation for the nvidia driver or consult google to see where it creates the backup.  Better approach: just make a new one with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:53] <ubotu> Rageon: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:53] <ep1> MasterShrek:  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 /usr/libssl.so.0.9.6
[03:53] <ep1> sory
[03:53] <Rageon> thx dude
[03:53] <MasterShrek> ep1, yea, give it a shot
[03:53] <MasterShrek> ep1, if it doesnt work: sudo rm /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6
[03:54] <Ownatik> hi
[03:54] <jrib> Emperor886: or 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' for less questions
[03:55] <Ownatik> here<s what I get ..ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[03:55] <Ownatik> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[03:55] <jmg> !easybuntu
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easybuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <jmg> !automatix
[03:55] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[03:55] <Emperor886> jrib: As in y/n questions?
[03:55] <tzadik> how do i install moonlight
[03:56] <tzadik> (a.k.a. silverlight)
[03:56] <Ownatik> same for hda .. but I know its sda
[03:56] <jrib> Emperor886: not quite, it will ask you for the driver you want to use
[03:56] <MasterShrek> Ownatik, try sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 (assuming sda1 is your ubuntu root partition)
[03:56] <Emperor886> I don't know the driver I want to use though, I've only been using Linux for a month.
[03:57] <Rageon> so basically u dont wanna download stuff from multiverse unless u cant help it?
[03:57] <Emperor886> jrib: I don't know the driver I want to use though, I've only been using Linux for a month.**
[03:57] <Ownatik> same message, even if I --recheck
[03:57] <riot\hates\wifi> awesome. i seem to have overwritten my feisty cd, and deleted the iso <head/desk>
[03:57] <MasterShrek> Rageon, some things in multivers are a bit unstable, but i generally dont run into many problems, plus it opens lots and lots of extra pacakges
[03:57] <jrib> Emperor886: nv is the normal one for nvidia cards (not proprietary)
[03:57] <alecwh> I'm in High School, and I would love a program to organize my assignments/homework for my classes. Can someone suggest an app?
[03:58] <Emperor886> jrib: Thanks, will be back.
[03:58] <qazwsx> what's the best tool for buiding my own animated movie on linux?
[03:58] <tkd> I need to convert some AVI too DVD, any sugguestions for apps?
[03:58] <Rageon> MasterShrek: Ok, will i ever download stuff from the multiverse that is like shareware software? or is it all free?
[03:58] <nickrud> alecwh: evolution has decent calendaring and to do stuff built in
[03:58] <macd> tkd, devede
[03:58] <Ownatik> MasterShrek , got the same message, even if I --recheck
[03:58] <HealthyElijah> any humans here?
[03:58] <pj1976> I use devedi and it works great
[03:58] <MasterShrek> yes Rageon its all free
[03:58] <alecwh> nickrud, OK, I'll try that out.
[03:58] <Rageon> cool!
[03:58] <mboldisc> alecwh: I suggest using a plain filesystem with directories. :)
[03:58] <MasterShrek> Ownatik, try sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and make sure sda1 is your ubuntu partition
[03:59] <HealthyElijah> i need some basic NOOB help here
[03:59] <HealthyElijah> if anyone is bored ;)
[03:59] <nickrud> !ask | HealthyElijah
[03:59] <ubotu> HealthyElijah: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:59] <riot\hates\wifi> hm. maybe i should shoot for gusty.  i suppose this is going to be painful, regardless  of the release.
[03:59] <alecwh> mboldisc, I am, doing my assignments with gedit. :). But I just need to keep track of what my homework assignments are.
[03:59] <atlfalcons866> !bug
[03:59] <HealthyElijah> friggin bot
[03:59] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:59] <MasterShrek> riot\hates\wifi, wait until next month when it gets release
[03:59] <pj1976> How can I check if If I am using hardware or software acceleration?
[03:59] <nickrud> riot\hates\wifi: gutsy on #ubuntu+1 (but it works nice)
[03:59] <Ownatik> MasterShrek: ok it<s sda4 :P
[04:00] <nickrud> pj1976: glxinfo | grep direct
[04:00] <pj1976> thanks
[04:00] <IdleOne> HealthyElijah: what do you need help with?
[04:00] <TUXedomember> how can i put a theme on a web site with kompozer?
[04:00] <HealthyElijah> IdleOne: Wrong channel nevermind
[04:00] <IdleOne> HealthyElijah: np
[04:00] <nickrud> HealthyElijah: the bot is smarter than most of us :)
[04:00] <Ownatik> MasterShrek: I still get it ...: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda4
[04:00] <Ownatik> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[04:00] <Ownatik> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[04:01] <HealthyElijah> I am getting real tired of bots
[04:01] <HealthyElijah> i wish there was a command for ignoring all bots
[04:01] <MasterShrek> Ownatik, try typing 'mount' to see if something is mounted at /boot
[04:01] <mboldisc> alecwh: I'll probably get bashed for saying this, but I use igoogle notebooks for small notes/tasks.
[04:01] <nickrud> HealthyElijah: so anyway, what's the issue.
[04:01] <HealthyElijah> i have only used irc for 24 hours in my whole life too
[04:01] <HealthyElijah> just ranting
[04:01] <carlosV2> how can i uninstall a compiled program?
[04:01] <pj1976> ok, no direct rendering and XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0", so I'm using software, right?
[04:01] <rsk> carlosV2: make uninstall
[04:02] <h1st0> carlosV2: make uninstall
[04:02] <MasterShrek> carlosV2, if u still have the source make uninstall
[04:02] <carlosV2> xDDD ok, thanks, i'm stupid :P
[04:02] <nickrud> carlosV2: if you still have the directory in which you did the compile from , make uninstall
[04:02] <tzadik> how do i install moonlight
[04:02] <tzadik> ?
[04:02] <MasterShrek> !info moonlight
[04:02] <ubotu> Package moonlight does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:02] <Ownatik> MasterShrek: no nothing mounted as boot
[04:02] <tzadik> (which is the linux version of silverlight)
[04:02] <tzadik> !info moonlight
[04:02] <riot\hates\wifi> compile from source?
[04:03] <carlosV2> riot\hates\wifi, what do you want to compile?
[04:03] <tzadik> what is that?
[04:03] <riot\hates\wifi> carlosV2  > i dont want to compile anything. at the moment.
 compile from source? <- then, why this?
[04:03] <riot\hates\wifi> tzadik: if the package isnt available in the repos, you're going to need to build (compile) it yourself
[04:04] <carlosV2> ok
[04:04] <carlosV2> :P
[04:04] <MasterShrek> Ownatik, try sudo grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sda4
[04:04] <atlfalcons866> !gutsy
[04:04] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:05] <tzadik> riot\hates\wifi: why isn't it in the repos?
[04:05] <IdleOne> tzadik: http://johansoft.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-install-moonlight-desklets-step.html
[04:05] <MasterShrek> tzadik, nobody made a package for it
[04:05] <riot\hates\wifi> tzadik:  nobody put it there
[04:05] <IdleOne> tzadik: second link returned on google search
[04:05] <Ownatik> MasterShrek: I get this: Could not find device for //boot: Not found or not a block device.
[04:05] <h1st0> tzadik: check getdeb.net if not compile yourself and use checkinstall instead of make install it will create a deb for you for easy removal
[04:06] <nickrud> tzadik: probably to volatile and alpha for packaging to be worthwhile
[04:06] <ep1> MasterShrek: It depends on an old version of libssl0.9.6 that doesnt exist, so I guess this isnt working for me
[04:06] <MasterShrek> Ownatik, try sudo grub-install (hd0,3)
[04:07] <pj1976> is it possible to use hardware accleration with XGL and an ati driver.  I'm running compiz perfectly an don't want to lose it.
[04:07] <Ownatik> MasterShrek: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[04:07] <tico1> heyy
[04:08] <MasterShrek> Ownatik, try without the parenteses
[04:08] <tzadik> thanks
[04:08] <MasterShrek> i dunno Ownatik ive done it before, i dont remember how lol
[04:08] <Ownatik> MasterShrek: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[04:08] <Rageon> whats a FORK?
[04:08] <Rageon> other then the eating utensil :)
[04:08] <Ownatik> read on many websites, tried everything and nothing works
[04:08] <nickrud> Rageon: someone doesn't like the people/direction of a software project, takes the code and starts his own version
[04:08] <jacob> what does modprobe ndiswrapper do?
[04:08] <riot\hates\wifi> a fork ... if a project splits
[04:09] <tico1> some body can help me to open a RAR file. I already installed everything but it dosen't work. i have the option when i clic using the right button but nothing happens.
[04:09] <Rageon> ahh ic, tym :)
[04:09] <jacob> what does modprobe ndiswrapper do?
[04:09] <MasterShrek> Ownatik, are you sure sda4 isnt your swap partition? typing mount will show for sure whats mounted at /
[04:09] <Rageon> tyvm*
[04:09] <riot\hates\wifi> i just feel the need to share that there is nothing better than being able to dl a linux iso in 15 minutes. i remember the good old days when this took 52 hours. :D
[04:09] <nickrud> jacob: installes the module into the kernel, adding functional support
[04:09] <MasterShrek> tico1, you install the program unrar?
[04:10] <Rageon> anyone here played boson? any good?
[04:10] <Ownatik>  /dev/sda4 on /mnt/temp type ext3 (rw)
[04:10] <Ownatik>
[04:10] <jacob> nickrud ok thanks
[04:10] <tsukasa_> is there a way to set evolution to only download the last 30 days of my gmail account? i have over 2 years of messages on there
[04:10] <sd3> how stable is gutsy?
[04:10] <hhp22> Guys.. someone help explain this to me.
[04:10] <riot\hates\wifi> although i am probably being needlessly paranoid and need not do a clean install.  :\
[04:10] <riot\hates\wifi> sd3: stable enough to be a beta <shrug>
[04:11] <hhp22> My brother just handed me a green cable that has a sound port jack on one end.. and a VGA mini D-sub on the other.
[04:11] <hhp22> wtf?
[04:11] <IdleOne> sd3: I been running it for a couple months now without any major issues. that said. use at your own risk
[04:11] <rsk> :D
[04:11] <MasterShrek> riot\hates\wifi, http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h247/invisiblekid852/damnfast.png
[04:11] <sd3> riot\hates\wifi, thanks
[04:11] <robink> Is there a way to get the Ubuntu alternative installer to not pop the display into framebuffer mode?
[04:11] <riot\hates\wifi> sd3: apologies, as that was a really lame answer on my part. ;)
[04:11] <hhp22> MasterShrek: jesus
[04:12] <heartsblood> 2 Questions if I may, could anybody an app that can remotely ping a router from several different locations in the world and could somebody recomend a list of decent gtk based torrent apps?
[04:12] <pj1976> I can try to find the info on my own, but is it possible to have hardware acceleration with XGL and an ati driver?
[04:12] <MasterShrek> when i was working at the college, at about 7:15 in the morning before everyone got there
[04:12] <Red-Sox> hello!  Could someone tell me how this would work? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178574#5
[04:12] <sd3> riot\hates \wifi, i was thinking about trying it as a live cd
[04:12] <IdleOne> !torrent | heartsblood
[04:12] <ubotu> heartsblood: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:13] <riot\hates\wifi> MasterShrek: i'm envious :o
[04:13] <KurtKraut> heartsblood: try deluge-torrent.org
[04:13] <MasterShrek> =P
[04:13] <rustalot> hey guys, so I was testing tcpdump, and apparantly my box is sending a bunch of random data to an ip in moldova..??
[04:13] <gizmo21187> wee
[04:13] <heartsblood> deluge?
[04:13] <macd> pj1976, yes it is, using the fglrx driver.
[04:14] <gizmo21187> any one use ISPconfig on xubuntu
[04:14] <Ryouga_Hibiki> hi everyone
[04:15] <gizmo21187> hello
[04:15] <macd> !hi | Ryouga_Hibiki
[04:15] <ubotu> Ryouga_Hibiki: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:15] <JiBEsH> Hi, I got a trouble since the last swiftfox update, there's an "error while loading shared libraries: libXcomposite.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".
[04:15] <pj1976> thanks mac, I'm using the restriced driver now.  Can I just look for and install an fglrx driver?
[04:15] <macd> yep, the restricted driver also does XGL (I think)
[04:15] <MasterShrek> JiBEsH, try reinstalling it
[04:15] <Ryouga_Hibiki> I just installed ubuntu a few moments ago its amazing
[04:15] <KurtKraut> rustalot: use lsof -i and grep to identify what program is sending this data
[04:15] <MasterShrek> Ryouga_Hibiki, youll learn to hate it, then youll learn to love it :P
[04:15] <KurtKraut> Ryouga_Hibiki: oh, there is a lot to be amazed yet. Don't rush :P
[04:15] <macd> JiBEsH, we dont really support swiftfox here, as its not an official piece of software from ubuntu repos.
[04:15] <heartsblood> KurtKraut: I like it, thanks for the advice.
[04:15] <patbam> hi, can anyone suggest a way that i can preview all the fonts on my system?
[04:15] <IdleOne> JiBEsH: sudo apt-get install libxcomposite-dev
[04:15] <pj1976> mac: Yeah it does, but for me it's just doing it in software.   No direct rendering
[04:16] <MasterShrek> patbam, system > preferences > font
[04:16] <macd> patbam, Im pretty sure system --prefs --fonts will show you all of them
[04:16] <JiBEsH> IdleOne: I did
[04:16] <hbcm> hey macd
[04:16] <robink> I need to install Ubuntu from a textmode installer running on a VGA console (framebuffer might work if it used a resolution that my monitor supported)
[04:16] <macd> hi, hbcm
[04:16] <macd> robink, you need the alternate install cd in that case.
[04:16] <IdleOne> JiBEsH: best I can say is try the swiftfox forums
[04:16] <patbam> macd MasterShrek, but you can only view one at a time, and it's a fiddly dropdown
[04:16] <PvtRyan> How do I get Ubuntu to stop booting into X?
[04:16] <pj1976> and I get an error XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0", do you know what that is?
[04:16] <JiBEsH> IdleOne: ok thanks.
[04:17] <heartsblood> now can anybody recomend an app (if there is a legal one) that can ping a router from different locations in the world (ping locations limited to the us would be ok as well)
[04:17] <MasterShrek> patbam, try in openoffice or something, maybe its easier
[04:17] <robink> macd: Alternate install CD uses framebuffer
[04:17] <gizmo21187> any one use ISP Config control panel
[04:17] <hbcm> try a session pvtryan
[04:17] <KurtKraut> gizmo21187: try #ubuntu-server
[04:17] <hbcm> at the login screen
[04:17] <nickrud> patbam: waterfall is a pretty nice/simple font viewer
[04:17] <MasterShrek> heartsblood, if you can use the ping command to do this, you could just write a script for it
[04:17] <macd> PvtRyan, by removing the startup script link for x11-common, and/or GDM
[04:17] <pj1976> Pvt-you can find in the login screen
[04:17] <gizmo21187> thanx
[04:17] <hbcm> popular ?
[04:18] <macd> robink, the alt install cd has a console curses based installer, I dont think that is framebuffer.
[04:18] <PvtRyan> thanks
[04:18] <hbcm> ubotu: most popular question please
[04:18] <robink> macd: The initrd (or squashfs image, not sure) tries to pop the display into framebuffer before the installer can run.
[04:18] <robink> macd: Framebuffer is largely a kernel thing.
[04:18] <MasterShrek> !popular
[04:18] <patbam> nickrud: thanks, i'll check it out
[04:18] <MasterShrek> worth a shot...
[04:18] <macd> robink, you can pass kernel options to the alt install cd
[04:18] <IdleOne> !msgthebot | hbcm
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about popular - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <ubotu> hbcm: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:19] <heartsblood> MasterShrek; I'm aware of that, but i'd rather have the initial echo coming in, not going out.
[04:19] <hbcm> try pm ing the bot
[04:19] <robink> macd: There is no kernel option to disable the framebuffer so that no userspace app can enable it.
[04:19] <hbcm> lol
[04:19] <robink> macd: I need an option that gets picked up by the Ubuntu userspace.
[04:19] <Elda> !Ubotu popular questoin
[04:19] <Elda> meh typos
[04:19] <Elda> !Ubotu popular question
[04:20] <bruenig> !fishing | Elda
[04:20] <ubotu> Elda: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:20] <Elda> Fishing?
[04:20] <Ryouga_Hibiki> When I using Ubuntu a moment ago....I couldn't connect to the internet..do I have to imput my wireless settings manually?
[04:20] <Elda> I was just curious as to what it was o,o
[04:20] <hbcm> lol
[04:20] <patbam> nickrud: this thing rawks, thanks
[04:20] <macd> robink, you can pass fb=false video=vga16:off and disable framebuffer.
[04:20] <robink> macd: Userspace can't turn it on that way?
[04:20] <nickrud> patbam: yw
[04:20] <MasterShrek> Ryouga_Hibiki, what kinda wifi card do you have?
[04:20] <bruenig> Elda, yes, like when you throw out a hook, you are curious to see what bites
[04:20] <macd> not to my knowledge.
[04:20] <robink> macd: OK, I'll give it a go
[04:20] <Ryouga_Hibiki> hang on.
[04:21] <Elda> Okey then
[04:21] <hhp22> Hey guys, how can I copy files into a usr/share folder? I'm trying to do it through Nautilus and it's telling me I don't have the permissions, which obviously means I'm not root. How would I get root privleges for just dragging some files into another folder?
[04:21] <Scatology> PLEASE I NEED HELP TO INSTALL A DIALUP MODEM MOTOROLA SM56 ON UBUNTU
[04:21] <Ryouga_Hibiki> A dell wireless card.
[04:21] <DjViper> !capslock | Scatology
[04:21] <bruenig> !caps | Scatology
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capslock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <ubotu> Scatology: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:21] <IdleOne> !pppoe | Scatology
[04:21] <bruenig> !please | Scatology
[04:21] <MasterShrek> hhp22, use a terminal and sudo
[04:21] <ubotu> Scatology: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:21] <h1st0> hhp22: gksu nautilus in a terminal.  But what do you need to copy in usr/share?
[04:21] <ubotu> Scatology: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[04:21] <DjViper> lol
[04:22] <DjViper> I guess he got the attention he wanted, just not the right type :P
[04:22] <MasterShrek> Ryouga_Hibiki, join #MasterShrek for a min, i think its probably a broadcom based chip which i can help you install
[04:22] <rustalot> KurtKraut: it's not there, so I presume the program has stopped... I tried running chkrootkit, but that found nothing.
[04:22] <hhp22> h1st0: A new Human Themed screen locker that goes in gnome-screensaver. I'm supposed to put the files in usr/share/gnome-screensaver.
[04:22] <cole> How do you revert GNome Panels
[04:22] <bruenig> hhp22, ask your questions in the digg comment thread
[04:23] <h1st0> hhp22: yeah if you launch nauytilus from a terminal with gksu you will ahve root access
[04:23] <DoYouKnow> hi guys. I am running into a couple issues. the main issue is that when I try to logout of Xgl and restart the login screen in ubuntu feisty 7.04, it hangs. Ctrl+Alt+backspace does nothing. I type ctrl+alt+del and it can't seem to reboot
[04:23] <riot\hates\wifi> oh dear. i'm having an ethical dilemna :o
[04:23] <DoYouKnow> is there a way for me to force the console to load up?
[04:23] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:23] <ticked> macd thanks devede seems to be working for me
[04:23] <macd> ticked, great.
[04:23] <h1st0> DoYouKnow: xgl support go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:23] <DoYouKnow> but my PC is still working
[04:23] <hhp22> bruenig: I would if it was specifically regarding the program :P
[04:23] <DoYouKnow> ok
[04:24] <h1st0> DoYouKnow: you could boot in recovery mode
[04:24] <robink> macd: Couldn't figure out how to pass options to the GUI bootloader, but managed to get the boot process to pop the display mode to a resolution that my monitor supports.
[04:24] <heartsblood> DoYouKnow: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:24] <pj1976> Thanks Hist0
[04:24] <DoYouKnow> yeah, but I can't get to the console
[04:24] <macd> robink, f6 for future reference.
[04:24] <DoYouKnow> it's just a locked up blank screen
[04:24] <IdleOne> !pppoe | Scatology READ THE FOLLOWING LINK
[04:24] <ubotu> Scatology READ THE FOLLOWING LINK: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:24] <riot\hates\wifi> is it wrong of me to not kill my feisty torrent so i can burn and install? or should i be a good BTer and keep chugging along  :\
[04:24] <heartsblood> alt-f1/f12
[04:24] <riot\hates\wifi> err not not.
[04:24] <h1st0> cole: You may have to figure out where they are configured and delete that folder
[04:24] <hhp22> h1st0: Thanks, that worked :)
[04:24] <Scatology> ubotu it's not a ADSL/PPPoE connection
[04:24] <cole> I deleted .gnome, .gnome2, .gconf, and .metacity, but didnt't suceed
[04:25] <tarelerulz> azureus use TCP and UDP and for torrent and it seems to need to be port forwarding.  Do all bit torrent clients need to do that with router ?
[04:25] <IdleOne> riot\hates\wifi: burn and install and then continue seeding
[04:25] <riot\hates\wifi> Scatology: ubotu's a bot
[04:25] <rustalot> by the way, if i'm in bash, can I tell it to run tcpdump until a certain time?
[04:25] <Prez_> is facebook having issues?
[04:25] <Prez_> i keep getting disconnected
[04:25] <heartsblood> DoYouKnow: hit ctrl-F1/F12 or alt-F1-12.  the key combination seems to change depending on the keyboard I use.
[04:25] <Prez_> not sure if it's me..
[04:25] <h1st0> cole: ~/.gnome2/panel2.d  ? or something maybe
[04:25] <ePax> Is there some programs like superkaramba but just for gnome ant not kde?
[04:25] <cole> hmm ill try again
[04:26] <riot\hates\wifi> IdleOne > that assumes i can connect to the internet from feisty.   the internets and i dont get seem to get along where linux is involved :|
[04:26] <rustalot> ePax: i think it's called gDesklets..
[04:26] <macd> ePax, gdesklets
[04:26] <h1st0> cole: or
[04:26] <ePax> Thnx ppls (;
[04:26] <nickrud> cole: to revert the panel:   gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[04:26] <riot\hates\wifi> unless i'm wired. and i'm only going to be wired long enough to apt-get build essential and curse myself blue in the face.
[04:26] <IdleOne> riot\hates\wifi: dualboot untill you are certain you can cvonnect with feisty
[04:26] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:26] <cole> thanks
[04:27] <IdleOne> !dialup Scatology
[04:27] <riot\hates\wifi> IdleOne: i'm quad booting as is :P
[04:27] <IdleOne> !dialup | Scatology
[04:27] <ubotu> Scatology: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[04:27] <h1st0> cole: ~/.gconf/apps/panel  or even ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/gnome-panel
[04:27] <IdleOne> riot\hates\wifi: what is 4 without 5?
[04:27] <riot\hates\wifi> negative one :x
[04:27] <IdleOne> :)
[04:27] <IdleOne> lol
[04:27] <nickrud> lol
[04:28] <rockets> Is it safe to use a journaling filesystem (e.g. ext3), on an external drive?
[04:28] <krammer> which program is good for playing internet radio??
[04:28] <nickrud> rockets: yes
[04:29] <nickrud> krammer: rhythmbox, others, and streamtuner
[04:29] <krammer> apt-get ??
[04:29] <Skwid_> hey everyone, i have a problem, when i press volume up/down on my keyboard, i get the OSD that changes but it doesnt actually affect the sound in volume control
[04:29] <nickrud> krammer: yes
[04:29] <IdleOne> krammer: apt-cache search radio
[04:29] <krammer> thanks
[04:30] <id_sonic> hi, everybody, who know how to extracting a directory in a gzip file?
[04:30] <nickrud> krammer: rhythmbox is the "music player" that ubuntu comes with
[04:30] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:30] <krammer> ok
[04:30] <IdleOne> krammer: apt-cache search radio | less
[04:30] <IdleOne> hehe
[04:30] <heartsblood> Whoever recomended Deluge to me thanks a ton!  This is exactly what I was looking for; Features of Azureus with none of the bloat!
[04:31] <rhet> anybody have any idea what the problem might be if i set up wifi to work on ppc, worked fine for months and now dhclient says it hasnt recieved any dhcp offers..i couldnt find anyone with similar problems in the forums or on the net
[04:31] <riot\hates\wifi> most <3
[04:31] <Mr> What is a good channel to get help installing a progy off of a cd ?
[04:31] <IdleOne> !dialup | Scatology THIS IS THE LAST TIME I GIVE YOU THIS LINK....READ THIS BEFORE ASKING AGAIN FOR HELP
[04:31] <ubotu> Scatology THIS IS THE LAST TIME I GIVE YOU THIS LINK....READ THIS BEFORE ASKING AGAIN FOR HELP: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[04:31] <krammer> Idleone: than what?
[04:31] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:31] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:31] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:31] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:31] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:31] <IdleOne> krammer: se if any of the listed packages strikes you and install it :)
[04:31] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:32] <Scatology> I need help to install my 56k modem (Motorola sm56) on unbuntu...
[04:32] <IdleOne> !ops
[04:32] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[04:32] <krammer> rythmbox is there
[04:32] <IdleOne> krammer: go for it :)
[04:32] <Skwid_> anyone
[04:32] <krammer> how do i get it now
[04:32] <nickrud> krammer: that's a list of installable apps that have radio in the description, check them out in synaptic
[04:32] <Mr> !ubotu
[04:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:32] <krammer> ok
[04:32] <krammer> ty'
[04:33] <riot\hates\wifi> man, thats obnoxious o_o
[04:33] <riot\hates\wifi> i've never understood why some people seem to think that's the key to being helped
[04:34] <Javid> is there a config editor for grub? the boot.lst is really confusing
[04:34] <novaton> no me va el puto emule
[04:34] <novaton> alguien sabe?
[04:34] <novaton> k hacer? xd
[04:34] <Javid> !sp
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <nickrud> !es | novaton
[04:34] <Javid> gr
[04:34] <ubotu> novaton: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:34] <Javid> !es
[04:34] <Javid> bah, beaten!
[04:34] <riot\hates\wifi> Javid: i dont think so, but i might be wrong. what's confusing you?
[04:34] <nickrud> quick fingers ;)
[04:34] <Rageon> dude just change the first entry 0 to saved
[04:34] <novaton> ok :)
[04:35] <Javid> The thing is that I have four options on the list with only one OS.
[04:35] <Javid> I want to make it not do that
[04:35] <Javid> I know it makes no real difference but I want it anyway
[04:35] <riot\hates\wifi> lol. i should turn my filter off. i'm missing all of the fun !commands.  <wonders how many times she's missed !wireless today>
[04:35] <nickrud> Javid: keep them, you should always keep the second oldest kernel around
[04:36] <trogdor> I'm a bit new to photo editing anyone got some nice guides or apps?
[04:36] <Javid> wine photoshop >>>>>> gimp
[04:36] <Javid> other than that, not really
[04:36] <Mr> echo echo heloo o o any one here?
[04:36] <vulcanius> paint
[04:36] <dave__> !foo
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <Javid> !what
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <seth_m> !seen seth_m
[04:36] <Javid> !doesntwork
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen seth_m - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <nickrud> gthumb does everything photo I need
[04:36] <trogdor> Javid: I've seen some pros that use gimp, its not bad once you get hang of it
[04:36] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:36] <Madpilot> !msgthebot
[04:36] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:37] <arthur> boa noite senhores
[04:37] <trogdor> Javid: but I lack the terminology to use either one
[04:37] <Javid> heh
[04:37] <krammer> Problem how can i get rhythmbox to execute??
[04:37] <KurtKraut> !br | arthur
[04:37] <ubotu> arthur: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:37] <Madpilot> trogdor, there's lots of GIMP tutorials out there - hit Google - lots of good ones, and some great sites collecting them that aren't hard to find.
[04:37] <Mr> What other rooms help with ubuntu?
[04:37] <trogdor> Javid: I mean they got blurring burning smudging juggling sizzling constrating rotating blah blah blah blah still no clue what those buttons do
[04:38] <Javid> way to learn is play with it till you know it
[04:38] <Javid> what I did. :p
[04:38] <nickrud> trogdor: for simple cropping, color balance and the like, gthumb works really well & is simple
[04:38] <IdleOne> krammer: Applications>Sounds>...
[04:38] <trogdor> Madpilot: yeah I've read a few but where should I start?
[04:38] <trogdor> nickrud: ooh thx
[04:38] <krammer> lol now i feel dumb
[04:38] <tico1> i still have problems with RAR files. do someone know how to open it
[04:39] <trogdor> ticol: apt-get install rar 7z
[04:39] <Madpilot> trogdor, personally, I always learn best when I find or invent a project for myself. Rather than just noodling around, I try and re-create an image I found, or something similar...
[04:39] <trogdor> ticol: then just right click it
[04:39] <riot\hates\wifi> Mr: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy , #ubuntu-effects for desktop effects/compiz/etc ...  #kubuntu, #xubuntu and the #ubuntu-<language>s are thoe only ones i know of
[04:39] <tico1> tragdor : thanks
[04:39] <IdleOne> krammer: dont! you will get the hang of it
[04:39] <riot\hates\wifi> 7z is soooo grating, free or not  D:
[04:39] <KurtKraut> Mr: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=partial&I=ubuntu&T=chan&N=59&M=min&C=1&PER=20&D=color&Submit=+Go+
[04:39] <Mr> ok, would you give me a hand riot?
[04:39] <trogdor> Madpilot: I once started to use some photo editing stuff before I got annoyed with icons that have white background makes my desktop look crappy
[04:40] <krammer> yea thanks, but I did go through adm & pref
[04:40] <krammer> have fun
[04:40] <tico1> tragdor : look , Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:40] <tico1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:40] <tico1> is only available from another source
[04:40] <tico1> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[04:40] <riot\hates\wifi> Mr: i'll try but it depends on what ya need a hand with
[04:40] <trogdor> ticol: it is there use synaptic to find it
[04:40] <trogdor> ticol: do apt-get upgrade and make sure that comp has internet setup right
[04:41] <Mr> I would like to install this game i have, and it is linux, the setup file on the cd is /media/cdrom0/linux-installer.sh how do i get it to go in terminal?
[04:41] <tico1> tragdor: everything is fine. i try using the winrar file and now i havve the option when i use right clic
[04:41] <Mr> I mean how do i open it or run it?
[04:41] <Javid> mr: sh /path/to/file.sh
[04:42] <tico1> tragdor: but nothing happens
[04:42] <_gpg_> any one succeeded to install eclipse europa on ubuntu please ?
[04:42] <Javid> !grub
[04:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:42] <_gpg_> !tell _gpg_ about eclipse
[04:43] <Mr> riot do i type in terminal something like sudo get-install /media/cdrom0/linux-installer.sh ?
[04:43] <trogdor> Mr: pull up terminal and cd /media/cdrom0/ then ./linux-installer.sh
[04:43] <riot\hates\wifi> Mr: do what javid said
[04:43] <riot\hates\wifi> or what trogdor said. both work
[04:43] <Mr> ok
[04:43] <trogdor> Mr: if it requires root privileges then do sudo su and enter your password then try again
[04:43] <_gpg_> !eclipse
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <seth_m> I have Feisty installed on a system with a Core2Duo. I noticed some performance drop recently. Investigating a bit, I found that HAL Device Manager and Gnome System Monitor listed one CPU, where they used to list two (I'm certain in the latter case.)  Can someone help me verify whether there is a problem and fix it?
[04:44] <tico1> trogor: any idea?
[04:44] <seth_m> My uneducated speculation is that something happened at some point messing with getting the nVidia proprietary drivers to work right.
[04:44] <trogdor> Mr: no that won't work.. apt-get grabs basic applications from ubuntu repositories but its a separate program you have yourself that isn't prepackaged
[04:45] <KurtKraut> seth_m: does cat /proc/cpuinfo still showing 2 cores ?
[04:45] <Mr> ok i am ignorant of linux lingo
[04:45] <kevinO> when gutsy come out, is it going to include a newer version of gnome?
[04:45] <SomaFM> does anyone know of any archiving methods built in other than TAR?
[04:45] <Rageon> if ubuntu doesnt set a password for / doesnt that mean anyone could just login with no password?
[04:45] <KurtKraut> SomaFM: yes, gnome 2.20
[04:45] <sayers> Rageon, no...
[04:45] <trogdor> riot: that sh <path> thing usually gets really buggy with all sorts of hidden bash settings crap I'd not like to ever deal with
[04:46] <SomaFM> kurtkraut, whats the basic command? never used it
[04:46] <riot\hates\wifi> Rageon: no.
[04:46] <Rageon> why not?
[04:46] <hhp22> Does anyone know if there's a specific channel for help in ubuntu with dualhead?
[04:46] <hhp22> (Multiple Monitors)
[04:46] <seth_m> KurtKraut: Doesn't look like it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38419/
[04:46] <KurtKraut> SomaFM: the basic command for what ?
[04:46] <trogdor> Rageon: because its not marked as being something you can log into...
[04:46] <riot\hates\wifi> it's not so much that there's no password, as it is the account is locked.
[04:47] <Rageon> ic see.. so the ONLY thing that can access / is sudo correct?
[04:47] <KurtKraut> seth_m: isn't that displayed twice ?
[04:47] <trogdor> Rageon: and any root level app that has such privileges like grub recovery console
[04:47] <seth_m> KurtKraut: Nope.
[04:47] <trogdor> Rageon: you can turn that off in menu.lst though
[04:47] <SomaFM> kurtkraut: sorry let me rephrase the question, is there another cli method other than TAR to archive/compress files into 1 file
[04:48] <seth_m> KurtKraut: That was the whole file.
[04:48] <KurtKraut> seth_m: could you show it to me as a screenshot ?
[04:48] <arrummzen> How hard is it to get the source code for packages an Ubuntu installation has?
[04:48] <Rageon> theres nothing id download from repositories that would be a root level app tho correct?
[04:48] <riot\hates\wifi> woo. my disc is burned. i'm going to go beat some sense into my wireless adapter, and i'll be back from feisty, on my WPA2 protected network.  ::something tells me that i have just set myself up for more defeat, but whatever::
[04:49] <KurtKraut> SomaFM: yes, you can do it by selecting the files in nautilus and doing a right click over then and choosing CREATE PACKAGE.
[04:49] <hhp22> :D
[04:49] <IdleOne> Rageon: there are but omnly root level user can access
[04:49] <Mr> eek i can't get it to open?
[04:49] <riot\hates\wifi> arrummzen - cant you download the source for those packages via apt?
[04:49] <Rageon> mmk
[04:49] <juan> is it possible to get fsck to run on shutdown not boot
[04:49] <arrummzen> riot\hates\wifi, that is my question =P. Assuming the package is open source, could I just use apt-get or something to grab the source for it?
[04:50] <SomaFM> kurtkraut, im looking for a command that can be used via the command line, such as tar can
[04:50] <IdleOne> Rageon: the majority of apps that a normal user would want to use on ubuntu dont require root/sudo privs
[04:50] <badraa> hello
[04:50] <AshDragonSca> Hi, can anyone help me with a ndiswrapper issue?
[04:50] <KurtKraut> SomaFM: what is the problem with tar ?
[04:50] <badraa> hello
[04:50] <disposition> would anyone have any idea how after a fresh install, 16.2 gigs would be maxed on my primary partition?
[04:50] <badraa> hello
[04:50] <badraa> hello
[04:50] <Rageon> ok kool
[04:50] <hhp22> IdleOne: In comparison, the majority of simple user actions on Windows Vista require elevated priveleges :P
[04:50] <riot\hates\wifi> arrummzen  ... i believe there's a source option. i can't tell you what the specific format is as i'm under win xp but it might be as simple as apt-get source <package> or. eh. <shrug>
[04:50] <disposition> i mounted a partition to /media/disponia and it's saying that it's on my primary partition
[04:51] <IdleOne> hhp22: yeah funny how that works
[04:51] <hhp22> Hello badree :P
[04:51] <hhp22> *badraa
[04:51] <arrummzen> riot\hates\wifi, alright.
[04:51] <Rageon> i just downloaded some stuff from Synaptic PM -- how do i access them? the ones i installed via Add new software appeared in my applications menu
[04:51] <SomaFM> kurtkraut, i never said there was a problem with tar. im just wondering if there is an alternative build into ubuntu that is similar to TAR
[04:51] <badraa> tnx
[04:51] <IdleOne> Rageon: synaptic downloads and installs. what did you install?
[04:52] <KurtKraut> SomaFM: yes, there are many, usually envolving compression like gzip
[04:52] <seth_m> KurtKraut: The pastebin doesn't appear to take images? Can I email you it?
[04:52] <badraa> i cant see anyone?
[04:52] <KurtKraut> seth_m: use www.imageshack.us
[04:52] <Rageon> bitch-x irssi umm and some other random things
[04:52] <wladston> I have just apt-get install mldonkey-server, but when I try to  /etc/init.d/mldonkey-server start, the core doesn't start, and it also outputs no errors. Can anyone help me ?
[04:52] <Red-Sox> any suggestions for getting a 5-button mouse working?
[04:52] <badraa> from list
[04:52] <pike_> Rageon: terminal apps wont show up in panel with icons usually
[04:52] <pike_> Rageon: word of advise though.. use irssi not bitchx
[04:52] <badraa> i'm beginer of Ubuntu
[04:53] <IdleOne> Rageon: bitch-x irssi are both terminal apps. so  type BitchX to start bitchx and irssi to start irssi
[04:53] <Rageon> thx
[04:53] <AshDragonSca> Hi, I have a Airnet AWD154 wlan card in my machine, I have installed the ndiswrapper from the repos for Ubuntu Feisty and any time I try to access the card (config it) it makes my computer lock up. I have tested the card under windows xp and it works fine. Any clue as to what is going on here?
[04:53] <badraa> hello
[04:53] <badraa> help me
[04:53] <IdleOne> hello badraa
[04:53] <badraa> ok
[04:53] <badraa> tnx
[04:53] <seth_m> KurtKraut: http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuinfojm6.png
[04:53] <IdleOne> help you with?
[04:53] <SomaFM> kurtkraut, can you list any built into ubuntu?
[04:53] <badraa> can you help me?
[04:54] <IdleOne> badraa: with?
[04:54] <badraa> me
[04:54] <IdleOne> badraa: what do you need help with?
[04:54] <bruenig> !english | badraa
[04:54] <ubotu> badraa: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:54] <badraa> ok
[04:55] <badraa> i'm beginer of ubuntu
[04:55] <bruenig> !enter | badraa
[04:55] <ubotu> badraa: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:55] <IdleOne> badraa: what country?
[04:55] <KurtKraut> seth_m: I have no clue why this is happening. I recommend you posting that issue in ubuntuforums.org. This screenshot will help to convince people that you're not mistaken.
[04:55] <testtesttest> test
[04:55] <bruenig> badraa, just ask your question for the love of fsm
[04:55] <Mr> this i do not under stand
[04:55] <Red-Sox> any suggestions for getting a 5-button mouse working?
[04:55] <badraa> central asia
[04:55] <Madpilot> ubotu, mouse | Red-Sox
[04:55] <ubotu> Red-Sox: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:55] <seth_m> KurtKraut: Thanks. Trippy, no?
[04:55] <Red-Sox> thanks maddler
[04:55] <Red-Sox> Madpilot: *
[04:55] <IdleOne> badraa: what language?
[04:55] <badraa> i can't install some programms
[04:55] <Mr> riot: do i have to mount cd ?
[04:56] <pike_> badraa: can you type the error you get?
[04:56] <IdleOne> badraa: what programs. you need to be more specific
[04:56] <KurtKraut> seth_m: yes... absolutely. I think this should be filed as a bug too. But let's try to get some answers in the forums first.
[04:56] <badraa> for examble adobe reader
[04:56] <badraa> adobe reader
[04:56] <IdleOne> !adobe | badraa
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <badraa> i already downloaded
[04:56] <IdleOne> hmmm thought there was a fatcoid
[04:56] <Psyber> hello everyone
[04:56] <badraa> but can'nt install, help me
[04:56] <IdleOne> hehe fatcoid
[04:57] <Psyber> has anyone had any issues with their window controls(the ones in the top right corner)  not responding?
[04:57] <pike_> badraa: this file you downloaded.. does it end in .exe?
 ?\
[04:57] <MrZim> hi, is xchat the most powerfull irc-client for ubuntu? i`m just using it for the time and cant even see a userlist from the channel...thx!
[04:57] <guhhh> ive mounted my windows partition(ntfs) but i can read/execute the files... i need ntfs-3g?
[04:57] <badraa> are you here?
[04:58] <badraa> yes
[04:58] <badraa> it's exe file
[04:58] <IdleOne> MrZim: you need to drag the userlist open. it is on the right side
[04:58] <Madpilot> badraa, exe files do not work on Linux. Not without lots of work, anyway.
[04:59] <pike_> badraa: you can use windows apps without wine or some emulator. adobe does provide a linux version but there are also free pdf viewers if that is all you need
[04:59] <pike_> cant i mean
[04:59] <badraa> oh
[04:59] <Dremth> is there a way to change the ubuntu boot screen? (not grub, the one like this: http://decoding.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/boot-screen.jpg)
[04:59] <wladston> I have just apt-get install mldonkey-server, but when I try to  /etc/init.d/mldonkey-server start, the core doesn't start, and it also outputs no errors. Can anyone help me ?
[04:59] <badraa> do you know ubuntu's reader?
[04:59] <nickrud> !usplash | Dremth
[04:59] <ubotu> Dremth: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:00] <Madpilot> badraa, Ubuntu has a good PDF reader built right into it. You usually don't need Adobe's reader.
[05:00] <badraa> relly?
[05:00] <badraa> nema?
[05:00] <badraa> name?
[05:00] <MrZim> IdleOne: thanks, found it - but not on the right side, it was under the serverlist...
[05:00] <KurtKraut> badraa: evince... just try to open a PDF file you'll see it
[05:00] <badraa> ok
[05:00] <Madpilot> badraa, find a PDF, double-click on it. It'll open in the default viewer.
[05:01] <pike_> badraa: welcome to ubuntu :)
[05:01] <Psyber> lol
[05:01] <IdleOne> MrZim: are you using xchat for windows?
[05:01] <Emperor886> Can someone help me with my display driver? It keeps freezing on me and I don't know how to fix it. :(
[05:01] <MrZim> IdleOne: nope, ubuntu
[05:01] <IdleOne> MrZim: heh ok
[05:01] <Psyber> hey, has anyone had any issues with windows not responding to the mouse ?
[05:02] <badraa> tnx
[05:02] <badraa> gues
[05:02] <IdleOne> Psyber: yes but I believe it is my mouse that is dying
[05:02] <badraa> i think, linux is better xp
[05:02] <mvuelma> Psyber, me too, but after I upgraded my system, all function well
[05:03] <ruckerz> anyone have luck installing libapache2-mod-php5 on feisty?
[05:03] <ruckerz> im getting package dependency problems
[05:03] <Psyber> IdleOne, mvuelma,   On some of my windows, I cannot use the controls in the top right corner.  Was this what you guys were going through?
[05:04] <robink> macd: Thanks
[05:04] <IdleOne> Psyber: yes
[05:04] <Madpilot> ruckerz, just as a guess, there's something wrong with your sources.list. Something basic like PHP & Apache shouldn't be giving dependency issues.
[05:04] <macd> robink, glad it worked
[05:04] <mvuelma> Psyber, are you using 3d effects?
[05:05] <Psyber> mvuelma:  they are installed, but not running
[05:05] <Emperor886> I have an Nvidia graphics card and the driver keeps freezing me, anyone know how to fix this?
[05:05] <badraa> help me?
[05:05] <robink> macd: Haven't tried passing options yet...
[05:05] <Crav> I installed TinyXP for dual booting. I'm using GRUB, but it seems that XP is automatically giving its partition the boot flag. everytime i boot xp, it restarts to xp, when i boot ubuntu, it restarts to GRUB. anyone know what to do?
[05:05] <badraa> gues
[05:05] <MasterShrek> Emperor886, how did you install the driver?
[05:05] <badraa> i'm from mongolia
[05:05] <robink> macd: Installer seems to be locked up doing hardware detection
[05:05] <MasterShrek> !ask | badraa
[05:05] <ubotu> badraa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:06] <mvuelma> Psyber, did you already test another mouse?
[05:06] <ruckerz> Madpilot: is there somewhere i can get a default sources.list?
[05:06] <badraa> my english very bad
[05:06] <macd> robink, wouldnt be the first time I've seen that
[05:06] <Schalken> how can i get flash player 9 on dapper?
[05:06] <Psyber> mvuelma: No, I don't access to another mouse right now.
[05:06] <badraa> do you know ubuntu's dictionary
[05:06] <Emperor886> MasterShrek: Frozen, brb.
[05:06] <badraa> english -mongolia
[05:07] <badraa> how to download ?
[05:07] <mvuelma> Well, this behavior only occurs on the right corner?
[05:07] <Madpilot> ruckerz, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:07] <MasterShrek> ruckerz, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ try that
[05:07] <robink> Wait, it's not doing hardware detection, it's trying to partition my drive.
[05:07] <robink> Why is it trying to partition my drive for me?
[05:07] <pike_> Schalken: you can download the files from adobe and just drop em in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or somesuch
[05:07] <Luke> Is there a special place for compiz questions or can I ask here?
[05:07] <tattors> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38420/
[05:07] <bruenig> !effects
[05:07] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[05:07] <tattors> what is wrong
[05:07] <KurtKraut> Luke: yes, #ubuntu-effetcs
[05:07] <Luke> thanks
[05:07] <badraa> now i can see reader file
[05:07] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-effects
[05:08] <Luke> join #ubuntu-effects
[05:08] <macd> robink, is this the livecd or the alternate install cd?
[05:08] <Luke> join #ubuntu-effects
[05:08] <IdleOne>        /
[05:08] <Luke> wtf
[05:08] <Luke> my slash key isnt working =)
[05:08] <robink> macd: Alternate CD
[05:08] <Psyber> mvuelma:  well No  I loose all control of the window.  Cannot scroll or use the control bar.  However, if I minimize and redisplay the window using the taskbar I regain the functionality
[05:08] <IdleOne> try it again
[05:08] <macd> robink, you sure its not setting up its temporary ramdisk partitions?
[05:08] <badraa> how to download english dictionary ?
[05:09] <robink> macd: It could be, I really don't know.
[05:09] <Schalken> pike_: is there a package avaliable?
[05:09] <Madpilot> badraa, there is one by default - Applications->Accessories->Dictionary
[05:09] <robink> macd: I should let it go though, the machine still responds to pings...
[05:09] <Emperor> MasterShrek: I chose the driver (nv) when I created my xorg.conf file.
[05:09] <MasterShrek> Emperor, what kinda card are you using?
[05:09] <mvuelma> Psyber, sorry. I think I can't help you.
[05:09] <MasterShrek> !nvidia
[05:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:10] <pike_> Schalken: should be yes. i havent used dapper since flash9 came out though
[05:10] <Emperor> MasterShrek: Nvidia GeForce GO 6100
[05:10] <macd> robink, yeah I'd let it go for a while
[05:10] <IdleOne> !flash | Schalken
[05:10] <ubotu> Schalken: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:10] <robink> macd: CPU is apparently a Geode GX2 (haven't cracked the case, just looked at pictures of open cases)
[05:10] <PoofDaddy> My Alt key is not functioning. Is it disabled by default? Could I or should I enable it?
[05:10] <icus> is it possible to tell ubuntu not to expand the menu bar across two monitors when using twinview and/or designate a primary monitor?
[05:10] <Schalken> IdleOne: ah, cool
[05:11] <Psyber> mvuelma: thanks for trying
[05:11] <Emperor> MasterShrek: Thanks.
[05:11] <pike_> Schalken: dont use gnash :)
[05:11] <macd> robink, ohh yeah, thats going to take a while Id guess
[05:11] <mvuelma> Psyber: You're welcome.
[05:11] <riotkittie>  after having spent so much time wondering why i would have deleted the feisty desktop iso, it came to me. unfortunately, it did not come to me until i had DLed, burned and  attempted to install :|
[05:11] <Schalken> pike_: lol yeah
[05:11] <badraa> ubuntu have diction of english -mongolia, mongolia-english?
[05:12] <robink> macd: It's a CPU that implements all 686 instructions except for cmov.  It also support the Intel SIMD (MMX).
[05:12] <robink> macd: ...so it isn't too terrible...
[05:12] <KurtKraut> badraa: no
[05:12] <macd> robink, yeah Im pretty familiar with it
[05:12] <hhp22> Has anyone in here successfully made Dual Head in Ubuntu work?
[05:12] <badraa> KurtKraut
[05:12] <robink> macd: Oh
[05:13] <badraa> KurtKraut: ok
[05:13] <PvtRyan> Is there a posted copy of a default sorce.list somewhere for feisty?
[05:13] <vulcanius> hhp22, what is the problem your having?
[05:13] <robink> macd: I'm not.  I have a GX1 in my Soekris, but I know nothing of the GX2.
[05:13] <macd> robink, we built some linux media center extenders with gx2 base
[05:13] <macd> I think those things only use ~1watt
[05:13] <hhp22> vulcanius: I've always had problems, but now I just have a couple of questions, like can you achieve dual-head with an AGP and PCI card together.
[05:13] <robink> macd: Their power consumption is pretty low.
[05:14] <vulcanius> hhp22, yes you can
[05:14] <vulcanius> what types of cards are these?
[05:14] <badraa> KurtKraut: how to add new font?
[05:15] <hhp22> vulcanius: That's good to know. Another question, if you don't mind: Can you achieve Dualhead with two different types of cards (nVidia and ATI for example)?
[05:15] <riotkittie> PvtRyan:  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:16] <badraa> KurtKraut: how to add new font?
[05:16] <vulcanius> hhp22, if the drivers want to play nice with each other i don't really see why not, but i've never attempted to mix like that
[05:17] <AshDragonSca> can anyone help me with ndixwrapper locking up my computer when I try to access it?
[05:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, fonts | badraa
[05:17] <ubotu> badraa: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:17] <hhp22> vulcanius: I'll try to keep them the same to avoid complications. Another question: do you know of an application that can assist me with ATI Dual-head? I know there's one for nVidia, but I don't know if there's one for ATI.
[05:18] <riotkittie> AshDragonSca: did you install from the repos or compile from source?
[05:18] <krammer> I have booted up and now i have a black screen with gnome running need help
[05:18] <vulcanius> hhp22, check out http://www.darkartistry.com/content/view/74/41/ for ATI dual heading
[05:18] <jamesh> are there any docs on configuring dual monitor support through the xorg.conf file? (I was using radeon MergedFB prior to Gutsy, but this doesn't seem to work anymore)
[05:18] <robink> n/m, machine has crashed
[05:18] <IdleOne> krammer: what did you do before rebooting?
[05:18] <Schalken> !flash
[05:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:18] <zemisolsol>
[05:19] <zemisolsol> hi
[05:19] <zemisolsol> everyonw
[05:19] <krammer> i was downloading a file then this happen so i tried rebooting  and stilll the same
[05:19] <vulcanius> hhp22, personally i have dual PCI-E nvidias. they were the cheapest cards i could find with 256MB memory and dual DVI. they work great
[05:19] <jamesh> I can configure it at runtime with xrandr, but I'd prefer to have it set up in dual monitor mode at startup
[05:19] <hhp22> vulcanius: Thank you so much. :) I can never get anyone in this channel to help me with dual-head :P
[05:19] <krammer> it is little circle of gnome running with all black screen
[05:19] <vulcanius> np
[05:19] <Emperor> MasterShrek: Whilst trying to install this new driver, I have gotten myself into a pickle.  When I try to install it it says "You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing." How can I install and get rid of X?
[05:19] <hhp22> vulcanius: I'm working with ancient hardware, so I don't really have the capability of linearity right now. :P How I wish.
[05:20] <vulcanius> ah, lol
[05:20] <robink> Can I choose one language for installation and then change the language to install later on in the installation process?
[05:20] <firebird619> Could someone help me? I cannot log in except for recovery console root. When I try to login otherwise, it says it couldn't write to authorization file due to either no disk space or unable to open for writing. I have 51 GB disk space free on /home, but / is 100% full, how do I reduce it
[05:20] <firebird619> How do I reduce /'s size to solve this problem?
[05:20] <krammer> Idleone: can you help me?
[05:20] <MasterShrek> Emperor, ctrl+alt+f1, then log in as user and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:20] <riotkittie> sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop  .... or sudo /etc/init/gdm stop Emperor, but what driver are you trying to install?
[05:21] <krammer> i can move the cursor but still black screen
[05:21] <IdleOne> krammer: not certain I can. dont see how a download would make your screen go black
[05:21] <krammer> virus?
[05:21] <IdleOne> krammer: nope
[05:21] <Emperor> MasterShrek: Thank you. :)
[05:21] <Schalken> how can i update a package from the command line?
[05:21] <XdorotaX> Virus on ubuntu. XD
[05:21] <vulcanius> Schalken, sudo apt-get
[05:22] <krammer> i tired rebooting 3 times
[05:22] <riotkittie> yay 6 minutes then i can burn and reboot and retry this song and dance
[05:22] <[Mau_Restor] > Virus on ubuntu. XD lol
[05:22] <riotkittie> i should stop being  a weenie and just do it in my current feisty install but 1GB of downloads later, i've come too far for that
[05:23] <vulcanius> firebird619, still here?
[05:23] <firebird619> vulcanius: yes
[05:23] <robink> Also, macd, your boot options had no effect.
[05:23] <riotkittie> what exactly were you downloading?
[05:23] <riotkittie> and have you tried an fsck?
[05:23] <vulcanius> firebird619, you can use your ubuntu install cd or another livecd to log in and modify your filesystem sizes
[05:23] <krammer> .doc
[05:23] <Emperor> riotkittie: A newer Nvidia one.
[05:24] <Mr1> Hows it goin everybody?
[05:24] <riotkittie> Emperor: ah
[05:24] <macd> robink, really? thats very odd
[05:24] <vulcanius> firebird619, if this is a fairly new install and you can reinstall i highly recommend that you create a separate filesystem for /boot
[05:24] <mohamed_> hello all, i installed vdr and i control it using xine with vdr-sxfe, how can i create session for vdr that can start automaticly instead of gnome ?
[05:24] <riotkittie> nooo i'm only downloading at 950kBs :O
[05:24] <firebird619> vulcanius: What caused the / partition to all of a sudden get full, it's been working file.
[05:24] <avt3kk> file explorer
[05:24] <firebird619> vulcanius: I do have a separate partition for /boot
[05:24] <avt3kk> in dapper
[05:24] <avt3kk> from term
[05:25] <Mr1> Firebird: I had the same problem
[05:25] <Ashfire908> how do i save the iptables
[05:25] <buzz-cp> can anyone help with sporadic USB flash drive recognition?
[05:25] <vulcanius> firebird619, it could have been a process that was writing and forked like crazy
[05:25] <wladston> I was later here asking for help on an issue. Checked that it was reported to be working on gusty, so I'd like to  try t upgrade to get my system working again.  I have a server without a video card, so I can't use update-manager. Can anyone tell me how to update to gusty via command-line ?
[05:25] <IdleOne> krammer: try explaining your issue again giving as much detail as possible
[05:25] <firebird619> Mr1: What did you have to do to solve the problem?
[05:25] <riotkittie> firebird619: logs? files not cleaned from apt?  how much space did you have on it last time you checked, prior to this issue?
[05:25] <vulcanius> wladston, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:25] <krammer> in a middle of a download my computer went to a black screen with gnome running i can move the cursor but thats it
[05:26] <h08817> Does it matter whether a cd-rw or a cd-r cd is used to burn the image?
[05:26] <buzz-cp> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c030 Logitech, Inc. iFeel Mouse
[05:26] <buzz-cp> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[05:26] <buzz-cp> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[05:26] <avt3kk> file explorer pls
[05:26] <riotkittie> h08817: no
[05:26] <hhp22> krammer: That's a screensaver freezing issue
[05:26] <firebird619> vulcanius: So is the only way to fix the problem resize the partition, if so, which one, / or /boot?
[05:26] <Mr1> To be honest, I never did. I reformatted
[05:26] <buzz-cp> ^^ my USB drive is not listed in lsusb
[05:26] <hhp22> I get that too :P
[05:26] <wladston> vulcanius: just did that : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:26] <Ashfire908> !pastebin | buzz-cp
[05:26] <ubotu> buzz-cp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:26] <Crav> I installed TinyXP for dual booting. I'm using GRUB, but it seems that XP is automatically giving its partition the boot flag. everytime i boot xp, it restarts to xp, when i boot ubuntu, it restarts to GRUB. anyone know what to do?
[05:26] <buzz-cp> Ash
[05:26] <buzz-cp> thanks
[05:26] <h08817> riotkittie, i have been having problems with my checksums whenever i use my cd-rw that has had files on it before
[05:26] <Flannel> wladston: install update-manager-core, then sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:26] <krammer> screensaver i dont think i wasnt away my computer for more than 2 min
[05:27] <avt3kk> how to I pull up the file explorer in term???
[05:27] <firebird619> riotkittie: I hadn't checked at all until now when I started having the problem. Bad practice on my part. Can I delete logs and clean apt to get some space back?
[05:27] <brontos> Hi All! Anyone know how to stop system messages from displaying in the terminal?
[05:27] <vulcanius> doh
[05:27] <Flannel> wladston: Or at least, that was the way from edgy to feisty.  You should ask in #ubuntu+1, they'll know for sure.
[05:27] <vulcanius> wladston, you'll need to add the gutsy repos first
[05:27] <vulcanius> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3290551
[05:27] <vulcanius> take a look there for more info
[05:27] <riotkittie> h08817: try another disc? burn at a lower rate?
[05:27] <Mr1> Can anyone tell me how to update grub? with sudo?
[05:27] <h08817> riotkittie, what is a good rate?
[05:27] <wladston> thanks, Flannel, vulcanius will try suggestions now
[05:27] <Flannel> Mr1: sudo update-grub
[05:27] <vulcanius> wladston, doh, sent you the wrong link
[05:27] <Psyber> hey everyone.... I know this is off topic.. but does anyone know of a free calendar website that will allow me to view/edit a calendar on either the website or a desktop application?
[05:28] <orionr> does anyone know where evolution mail stores all the email?
[05:28] <h08817> riotkittie, i tried two used cd-rw and even got a fresh download of fiesty fawn and the hashes do match
[05:28] <wladston> vulcanius: :) np, what's the right one ?
[05:28] <buzz-cp> All, here is fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38423/  <-- my USB drive is not listed
[05:28] <brontos_> Hi all! Anyone know how to stop system messages from displaying in the terminal?
[05:28] <riotkittie> h08817: you may want to go down to the lowest speed your burner will write at .. or close to it
[05:28] <buzz-cp> PS my USB drive mounted and showed up yesterday.  Not the day before.  I don't understand why it is sporadic?
[05:29] <mohamed_> how i can create session for vdr that can be the default session without login?
[05:29] <h08817> riotkittie, what does burning at a slower speed really do?
[05:29] <avt3kk> I got zinc installed :P
[05:29] <IdleOne> Psyber: calendar.google.com
[05:29] <avt3kk> yahoo chat :P
[05:29] <vulcanius> wladston, i believe you need to install and use "update-manager -d" but like Flannel said, i'd check in #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <Psyber> IdleOne:  I was under the impression I could not modify my google calendar with thunderbird
[05:30] <riotkittie> h08817: it will potentially eliminate -or at least decrease- errors in the burn process for some people
[05:30] <IdleOne> Psyber: I dont know if you can.
[05:30] <h08817> riotkittie, ok thanks and i'll use a fresh cd
[05:30] <vulcanius> firebird619, yes, to answer your question you can remove logs and such to clear up space
[05:30] <buzz-cp> anyone, any ideas why USB Flash Drive isn't mounting?
[05:30] <wladston> vulcanius, Flannel : I already have update-manager core. But update-manager reports as a non-installed program :(
[05:30] <krammer> downside of ubuntu if i can figure it out then i have to reinstall
[05:30] <riotkittie> firebird619: oooooooh sorry, i did not mean to not answer you
[05:30] <Armor_Azrael> Psyber: i just use Alt-F2
[05:31] <riotkittie> ok. i have the alt install CD. here we go again.  <prays>
[05:31] <badraa> my default language english, i can add other language but how to speach by this language on ubuntu's word?
[05:32] <Rageon> anyone recommend a program where i can scan the network from say <IP_ADDRESS> to .254 too see whats connected on the network?
[05:32] <firebird619> riotkittie: That is OK. I was patiently waiting for a response from you or anyone else who can offer advice. The wonderful thing about Ubuntu is this channel to get help. I know someone will answer me at sometime.
[05:32] <MasterShrek> Rageon, nmapfe
[05:32] <Flannel> wladston: do-release-upgrade, not update-manager.  And, yeah, for Gutsy (since its still development), youll need to pass a flag.  I don't know which one.  man page should tell you
[05:32] <krammer> buzz is there a password for the usb?
[05:32] <firebird619> vulcanius: Where are the logs located that I can safely delete?
[05:32] <Rageon> cheers will check it out
[05:32] <sirjoebob> hey all. quick question. is there a way for me to make open office ignore my system theme?
[05:33] <eatupmartha> Hey guys... apologies in advance for my noobishness...  I would like some advice on how to troubleshoot the following problems (even if that is just directions to which part of a FAQ to read); 1st. I had Beryl running great and then I tried installing Kiba Dock unsuccessfully and it resulted in my Beryl not working anymore... I un-enabled desktop effects and now It wont enable again, no idea how to undo any damage I might of
[05:33] <firebird619> I just tried to run apt-get autoclean and it returned E: Unable to write mmap - msync (28 No space left on device)
[05:33] <Rageon> im trying to install using APT-get .. it says E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:33] <Rageon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:34] <alexbobp> I have a complex directory tree with a bunch of duplicate songs, as mp3s and as oggs.  Is there a tool to split it into two trees, one with the mp3s and one with the oggs?
[05:34] <badraa> KurtKraut: my default language english, i can add other language but how to speach by this language on ubuntu's word?
[05:34] <buzz-cp> krammer: Are you asking if the flash drive requires a flash drive?  if so, no.
[05:34] <Rageon> do i need to do sudo apt-get ?
[05:34] <vulcanius> firebird619, if you do "df" what shows up as being 100% used?
[05:34] <vulcanius> Rageon, yes
[05:34] <sirjoebob> anyone know how to override my system theme so open office displays normally
[05:34] <sirjoebob> ?
[05:35] <firebird619> vulcanius: the / partition
[05:35] <ines> chanos
[05:35] <riotkittie> alexbobp: how many subdirectories?
[05:35] <krammer> my experience was i had a password for my usb and didnt mount then i removed the password and all good
[05:35] <vulcanius> firebird619, did you use the default partition layout when installing?
[05:35] <firebird619> vulcanius: No, I created separate partitions for /, /boot, and /home
[05:36] <buzz-cp> krammer, removed the password from the USB Flash Drive?  Or are you talking about some password for the USB port?  I'm confused.
[05:36] <krammer> I need help bad with my laptop
[05:36] <hellion0[laptop] > when all else fails, mount an iso. *grin*
[05:36] <riotkittie> buzz-cp: for the drive
[05:36] <hellion0[laptop] > krammer: what kind of laptop?
[05:36] <krammer> the usb
[05:36] <vulcanius> firebird619, so all you have are those three partitions?
[05:36] <gregcha117> ive got gutsy running right now, and i have compiz-fusion installed but i cant seem to start the settings manager
[05:36] <krammer> the problem is i was downloading a ..doc then my screen gone black
[05:37] <riotkittie> gregcha117: #ubuntu+1   or #ubuntu-effects will be better equipped to help you. probably the former.
[05:37] <firebird619> vulcanius: Those are the ones I created myself during install.
[05:37] <riotkittie> krammer: did you try a reboot?
[05:37] <buzz-cp> riotkittie, krammer:  AFAIK, there is no password.  I plug this in on an XP machine and it comes up as a drive letter, no password, no problems.
[05:37] <krammer> yes 5 times
[05:37] <Rageon> why does fingerprinting for OS detection require root?
[05:37] <gregcha117> riotkittie: thanks
[05:37] <krammer> the gnome icon is running and i can move it around the gui thats it
[05:38] <Szego> Anyone know a different way to convert a ps to a pdf other than using ps2pdf?
[05:38] <sethk> Rageon, because it requires permissions that span more than one user
[05:38] <vulcanius> firebird619, in a terminal cd to / and run the following "sudo find / -type f -size +20000k" and let me know what comes up
[05:38] <Szego> ps2pdf seems to be giving me some errors
[05:38] <firebird619> vulcanius: Ok
[05:38] <hellion0[laptop] > ok. having trouble with a nonexistant module needed for my sound. would a different kernel help this?
[05:38] <riotkittie> buzz-cp: have you tried adding an fstab entry, given that automount is being fickle?
[05:38] <h1st0> hellion0[laptop] : Have you looked up your sound card in the wiki?
[05:38] <Rageon> so i need to login as root to use this program?
[05:39] <riotkittie> krammer: can you ALT + CTRL + F1 and access a tty?
[05:39] <buzz-cp> riotkittie, haven't done fstab, nope.
[05:39] <krammer> ok
[05:39] <h1st0> Rageon: no you use sudo
[05:39] <h1st0> !sudo | Rageon
[05:39] <ubotu> Rageon: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:39] <Rageon> i used sudo to open it
[05:39] <hellion0[laptop] > i know it requires modprobe snd-cs4236.
[05:39] <Rageon> but it opens in a GUI
[05:39] <krammer> yues
[05:39] <h1st0> Rageon: then use gksu
[05:39] <krammer> my research paper is on this machine
[05:39] <Rageon> ah k cool
[05:39] <krammer> login ??
[05:39] <Rageon> ill read that link btw
[05:39] <hellion0[laptop] > but that module isn't present on my system.
[05:39] <buzz-cp> riotkittie: I probably need some kind of nudge on fstab, haven't changed before
[05:39] <alexbobp> riotkittie: I think the maximum depth is about 4, but there are a lot of directories
[05:40] <monkeyBox> How do I run a memory test in ubuntu?  does that need to be run before the OS is booted?
[05:40] <sirjoebob> anyone know how to override my system theme so open office displays normally?
[05:40] <ndube> i would do it before boot
[05:40] <h1st0> sirjoebob: change the theme
[05:41] <riotkittie> buzz-cp > it's been so long since i've toyed with fstab that i cant think of the proper options off the top of my head. uhm.  and i'm not using linux at the moment so i can't cheat by peeking at my own. can you mount in manually?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> monkeyBox,  the grub menus normally have a memtest feature
[05:41] <buzz-cp> riotkittie: I think I've tried to mount manually to no avail.
[05:41] <hellion0[laptop] > i'm running kernel 2.6.17-10-386 under Edgy, on a thinkpad 600, if that's any help.
[05:41] <sethk> monkeyBox, yes.  the desktop cd has a memory test on the boot menu
[05:41] <sethk> monkeyBox, for x86 boxes, at least
[05:42] <sirjoebob> i dont want to change the theme hist0, i want open office to ignore it
[05:42] <buzz-cp> riotkittie: I can post my /etc/fstab
[05:42] <sethk> monkeyBox, it's an old version.  you can download the latest version as a bootable iso image from the memtest86 web site
[05:42] <ndube> !pastes
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <sethk> monkeyBox, www.memtest86.com
[05:42] <ndube> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:42] <Javid> !ohgodtheypastedthreelinesNERDRAGE
[05:42] <buzz-cp> here's my /etc/fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38426/
[05:42] <krammer> If i use ctrl alt f7 a list box i think the deskop i sshwoing
[05:42] <IdleOne> MasterShrek: just got this from nmapfe : TCP/IP fingerprinting (for OS scan) requires root privileges.  Sorry, dude.
[05:42] <riotkittie> arrrrgh. i had a script for moving but i cant get to it as its on my laptop.
[05:43] <IdleOne> :)
[05:43] <MasterShrek> IdleOne, open a terminal and type: sudo nmapfe
[05:43] <IdleOne> MasterShrek: yeah I know just found the error funny lol
[05:43] <sethk> monkeyBox, effective memory testing is only possible in real mode, which is why you can't do it after booting an o/s
[05:43] <eatupmartha> is there a way to like, step back through the process you have made... to a point where it was happy days for your system ?
[05:43] <h1st0> Is there something wrong with the xfce4 meta package?
[05:44] <LM1> can anyone help me....  I think I am going crazy...  I unplugged my linux drive and formatted my other one with xp. then I changed the boot priority so the linux drive was the first boot device... well now it seems my resolution is messed up  my lcd is 1280x1024 and it overhangs even if I hit auto adjust any ideas?
[05:44] <sethk> monkeyBox, (unless you consider the original version of msdos an o/s.  :)   )
[05:44] <Malachi> How can I mount a floppy image? I don't have a floppy disk drive and I need to edit a GRUB boot disk.
[05:44] <riotkittie> krammer: ok, from a tty, sudo /etc/init/gdm restart ... see if that has any effect
[05:44] <buzz-cp> Hey can anyone with a USB Flash Drive past (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org) their /etc/fstab for me??
[05:44] <buzz-cp> ^paste
[05:44] <vulcanius> krammer, in a virtual term i'd recommend "tail"ing the Xorg log file and looking for any errors or warnings
[05:44] <sethk> LM1, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:44] <LM1> thanks
[05:44] <sethk> LM1, or xorg-xserver, I can never remember which  :)
[05:45] <riotkittie> sethk: the former :P
[05:45] <deadtowindows> This ubuntu is looking a lot better now
[05:45] <xoRock> alow, where can i find something like system info but transparent on desktop? i saw it from someones desktop screenshot a few times
[05:45] <sethk> riotkittie, thanks
[05:45] <riotkittie> brb.  i need to rebeet. errr. reboot.
[05:45] <deadtowindows> yw
[05:45] <skyfaller> hey folks... I'm trying to get Amarok music sharing working in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn between 3 computers also running Feisty Fawn... all 3 work as clients, 2 work as DAAP servers, but the 3rd won't work as a DAAP server... can someone help me figure out why?
[05:45] <hellion0[laptop] > xoRock: did you try asking the screenshot's poster what program/effect it was?
[05:46] <vulcanius> buzz-cp, what is the problem you're having?
[05:46] <krammer> command not found
[05:46] <xoRock> hellion0[laptop] , nope, its somethng like widget that shows your computer info, like cpu/ram/freespace etc, but in transparent
[05:46] <hellion0[laptop] > hm.
[05:47] <hellion0[laptop] > it's not gkrellm with a transparent skin?
[05:47] <vulcanius> krammer, "tail" wasn't found?
[05:47] <hellion0[laptop] > because that's something i've tried before on old linux systems of mine for that sort of effect.
[05:47] <buzz-cp> vulcanius, when I insert my USB Flash drive, it does not automount.  Yesterday, however, it DID.  The day before it DIDN'T :)   Someone suggesting adding to fstab, but I don't know what text to add.
[05:47] <firebird619> vulcanius: There is 10 lines it returned from that command, I probably shouldn't paste them here then should I.
[05:47] <xoRock> hellion0[laptop] , i dunno ^^; what is it called? gkrellm?
[05:47] <hellion0[laptop] > gkrellm.
[05:48] <xoRock> hellion0[laptop] , ok thx, ill look for it
[05:48] <vulcanius> firebird619, are any of them log files firebird619?
[05:48] <HealthyElijah> gkrellm is hard to view
[05:48] <buzz-cp> firebird:  paste them here and bring back link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:48] <HealthyElijah> how do i make it more readable?
[05:48] <krammer> nothing in return after i type tail
[05:48] <mohamed_> !session > mohamed_
[05:48] <krammer> bkinkjing cursor
[05:48] <firebird619> vulcanius: No
[05:48] <hellion0[laptop] > change the fonts or theme?
[05:48] <Xenguy> krammer: tail filename
[05:48] <HealthyElijah> change the background
[05:49] <hellion0[laptop] > that too, i guess.
[05:49] <krammer> canoot open file for reading
[05:49] <hellion0[laptop] > i always preferred mine opaque.
[05:49] <Notos> oh hi
[05:49] <vulcanius> firebird619, paste it on paste.ubuntu-nl.org and toss the link here
[05:49] <Notos> having some problems with firefox an nautilus
[05:49] <firebird619> vulcanius: Ok
[05:50] <vulcanius> buzz-cp, http://howto.helpero.com/howto/Mount-an-USB-Flash-Drive-in-Linux_15.html towards the end you'll find info on modifying your /etc/fstab. but please oh please back it up before you touch it
[05:50] <hellion0[laptop] > Notos: what kind of firefox issues?
[05:50] <Notos> iget this error on the shell 0x81874a0 2007/09/23 20:09:51.9694 (GLog): couldn't parse /usr/share/mime/video/x-ms-wmv.xml
[05:50] <buzz-cp> vulcanius.  Will check that out.  Thx
[05:50] <vulcanius> np
[05:50] <Notos> also  firefox crashes a lot :'(
[05:50] <chodianoronaldo> anyone here familiar with hosting gameservers on ubuntu?
[05:51] <hellion0[laptop] > ack. was hoping for "it's really slow."
[05:51] <SpongeBob> i need help with this video link in linux
[05:51] <SpongeBob> http://ripclinton.ytmnd.com/
[05:51] <Notos> searched google but find nothing :(
[05:51] <firebird619> vulcanius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38428/
[05:51] <ruckerz_> is there an ubuntu friendly way to mount a drive to a permanent directory?
[05:52] <defcon> how do I modify my screen "brightness" in ubuntu feisty
[05:52] <alecwh> Hello! I'm trying to switch from Nautilus to Thunar. I'm having trouble... How do I replace Nautilus as the default file manager with Thunar?
[05:52] <defcon> !brightness > defcon
[05:52] <vulcanius> firebird619, hrm... nothing stands out there. how large is your / partition?
[05:52] <defcon> ubotu, doesnt have anything for "brightness"
[05:52] <mboldisc> I need help with vsftpd.conf.
[05:52] <vulcanius> alecwh, are you using KDE, Gnome, or something else?
[05:53] <firebird619> vulcanius: 15 GB
[05:53] <mboldisc> Has anyone successfully limited local user access?
[05:53] <Rageon> ive got nvidia dual montiors.. anyone know how i can send GTK windows to my other screen and vice versa?
[05:53] <alecwh> vulcanius, Ubuntu, gnome
[05:53] <Psyber> does anyone know where synaptic installs files?
[05:54] <Psyber> /usr/bin ?
[05:54] <vulcanius> alecwh, go to System >> Preferences >> Preferred Applications
[05:54] <ma7moud> anyone installed ubuntu x64 on 8800 GTS?
[05:54] <hellion0[laptop] > it should.
[05:54] <hellion0[laptop] > Psyber: looks like it.
[05:55] <Psyber> hellion0[laptop] :  ok thx
[05:55] <alecwh> vulcanius: ok?
[05:55] <josiahw> !dvd
[05:55] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:55] <hellion0[laptop] > that's where it put irssi, anyway.
[05:55] <vulcanius> alecwh, in your menus at the top left
[05:55] <seth_m> Psyber: I would think it depends on what it's installing.
[05:55] <vulcanius> alecwh, doh, nevermind, punch me in the face
[05:55] <Rageon> ive got nvidia dual montiors.. anyone know how i can send GTK windows to my other screen and vice versa?
[05:56] <krammer> how long should tail take
[05:56] <alecwh> vulcanius: Heh, s'ok. :)
[05:56] <Psyber> seth_m:  I am trying to manually install thunderbird 2.0  only 1.5 is in the repos
[05:57] <Psyber> seth_m:  any suggestions where I should put it to be consistent?   Most of the other apps I install manually I put in /opt
[05:57] <Xenguy> krammer: it's instaneous pretty much
[05:57] <Xenguy> instantaneous
[05:57] <overclucker> some pages wont load, specifically myspace, thepiratebay, and some random page about how pages won't load, heh, ironic, any tips?
[05:57] <krammer> so another words reiinstall?
[05:57] <benzs_s> 0-o
[05:58] <krammer> my flash drive is more worthy the os
[05:58] <Xenguy> krammer: I dunno; I missed the first part of your issue, not sure what the original problem was
[05:58] <seth_m> Psyber: I'm no expert on such things, but I would think /usr/bin and so forth. Run ``whereis mozilla-thunderbird'' to see where it is now.
[05:58] <firebird619> vulcanius: When I highlight everything in / and go to properties, it says 16.4 GB for Contents.
[05:58] <h1st0> krammer: you shoulnd't have to reinstall ever.
[05:58] <h1st0> krammer: what is your problem?
[05:58] <krammer> this will be my 5th in 2 months
[05:58] <krammer> ok
[05:59] <seth_m> Psyber: Is there a reason you need Thunderbird 2.0?
[05:59] <Psyber> seth_m:  lol I was just about to do that
[05:59] <krammer> in the nmiddle of a download my screen wenet black
[05:59] <krammer> i tried rebooting about 6 times now
[05:59] <Psyber> seth_m:  I want to be consistent w/ my xp box and b/c some extinsions I want only work w/ 2.0
[05:59] <h1st0> krammer: and what happens on reboot?
[05:59] <overclucker> nobody's had that problem before?
[05:59] <spiderworm> is anyone here willing to spend some time helping me get some software compiled and installed?
[05:59] <Rageon> i was downloading gmediasteamer and system lockedup
[06:00] <hellion0[laptop] > wow, dist-upgrade actually worked this time.
[06:00] <krammer> go back to where i was
[06:00] <defcon> how do I modify my screen "brightness" in ubuntu feisty
[06:00] <alecwh> Can anyone link me to a guide to switch the default gnome file browser with Thunar?
[06:00] <overclucker> spiderworm, what are you compiling?
[06:00] <h1st0> !compile | spiderworm
[06:00] <ubotu> spiderworm: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:00] <h1st0> krammer: a black screen?
[06:00] <vulcanius> firebird619, do "sudo apt-get install filelight"
[06:00] <krammer> if i use cntrl alt f8 is shows a little box i think my desktop and gnome icon is running i can move the icon with my mouse that is it
[06:00] <spiderworm> overclucker, cwiid
[06:00] <ruckerz_> is there an ubuntu friendly way to mount a drive to a permanent directory?
[06:00] <krammer> yes
[06:00] <vulcanius> firebird619, and when that is done, run it
[06:00] <h1st0> krammer: can you get to a terminal?
[06:01] <Mr1> vulcanius: Whats filelight?
[06:01] <krammer> yes
[06:01] <IT> Here is my question. Is there drivers out yet for my nvidia 8500gt card for ubuntu7.04
[06:01] <seth_m> Psyber: Have fun, then. Merging data right could potentially be a problem, so tread carefully if you want your saved emails to work right. I'm off. Take care.
[06:01] <Jimmi_jones> I am having a little trouble with fstab entries and was hoping someone could help me out.
[06:01] <IT> ///
[06:01] <overclucker> spiderworm, have you make.d source before
[06:01] <overclucker> ?
[06:01] <alecwh> !filelight
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filelight - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <spiderworm> overclucker, yes, plenty
[06:01] <h1st0> krammer: okay try cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[06:01] <Rageon> mmm i just used nmapfe and now i cant browse the net?
[06:01] <overclucker> spiderworm, and there's a problem?
[06:01] <spiderworm> overclucker, i've even found errors in compile/install scripts before but this one confuses me
[06:01] <trevor> Anyone want to comment on my cover of Dylan's I Want You? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hny2UVaeU0I
[06:01] <Psyber> seth_m: thanks fr the help
[06:01] <spiderworm> overclucker, can i PM you with the details?
[06:01] <vulcanius> Mr1, it's a filesystem visualizer, it's awesome for helping you find problems when you run out of space
[06:01] <josiahw_> !codec
[06:02] <overclucker> spiderworm, sure
[06:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:02] <josiahw_> !dvd
[06:02] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:02] <vulcanius> Mr1, http://www.methylblue.com/filelight/
[06:02] <vulcanius> Mr1, i recommend everyone use it
[06:02] <h1st0> !bot | josiahw_
[06:02] <ubotu> josiahw_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:02] <Mr1> Nice, thanks man
[06:02] <vulcanius> np
[06:02] <Madpilot> !info filelight
[06:02] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[06:02] <seth_m> IT: There should be. What do you want to do? Stuff with 3D acceleration? (Games, Beryl)?
[06:02] <h1st0> josiahw_: please im the bot instead of spaming in here.
[06:03] <Madpilot> vulcanius, Mr1 there's also Baobab, which is in Ubuntu by default as "disc space analyzer" or something like that
[06:03] <IT> seth_m: yes
[06:03] <Rageon> mmm i just used nmapfe and now i cant browse the net?
[06:03] <h1st0> krammer: did that output any errors?
[06:04] <vulcanius> Madpilot, it's in gnome-utils by default. I just much prefer filelights interface to bao's
[06:04] <firebird619> vulcanius: I started the pc from recovery mode and am in as root, its the only way I can get logged in and have a GUI. I wanted to mount a flash drive but it won't automount and I can't mount it from command line either. Is there a way to quick mount it. I have an e-mail that I need to send and the file is on the flash drive. Also, I do have file light installed and running.
[06:04] <IT> How do ya know what version your running of ubuntu???
[06:04] <krammer> no sulch direct
[06:04] <krammer> should i use sudo
[06:04] <krammer> is the o after exorg a  zero and letter
[06:05] <josiahw_> h1st0: sorry didnt even think of iming the bot
[06:05] <vulcanius> firebird619, you can check if ubuntu recognizes your usb drive by looking in "dmesg"
[06:05] <navets__> how do i change kontact so that the date is in AM and PM not military time
[06:05] <h1st0> krammer: its case sensitive.  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE   the EE must ge capital
[06:05] <navets__> it is a KDE ap
[06:05] <h1st0> krammer: and the X must be capital
[06:05] <vulcanius> firebird619, in filelight go through your / directory and try to find where most of that space is going
[06:05] <krammer> yes
[06:06] <krammer> but the o after Xorg is this a letter
[06:06] <davubuntu> Hi everyone... I have been having trouble with setting up compiz fusion with an ati card... I know you haven't heard this one before.
[06:06] <vulcanius> krammer, it's a zero
[06:06] <vulcanius> Xorg.0.log
[06:06] <seth_m> IT: ``cat /etc/lsb-release'' will print what version of Ubuntu you're on.
[06:06] <Jimmi_jones> how do I mount hdb2 to an existing directory under / ?
[06:06] <seth_m> IT: Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=515573 to see how to install the driver.
[06:06] <IT> seth_m: I am using version 7.10
[06:06] <IT> gutsy
[06:06] <krammer> ok
[06:06] <firebird619> vulcanius: Yes, it found it but won't mount it. If it is alright, I will start from a live cd and get the e-mail sent that  I need to and come back here. Will you continue to help me when I come back.
[06:07] <IT> oops gutsy
[06:07] <davubuntu> My problem is that I need dbus-x11 for dbus-launcher... I tried adding it using apt-get but it can't find the package
[06:07] <vulcanius> firebird619,  sure thing
[06:07] <Mr1> Can anyone tell me a few things to help increase the proformance and speed in my computer??
[06:07] <firebird619> vulcanius: Thank you very much.
[06:07] <vulcanius> firebird619, np
[06:07] <seth_m> IT: The simplest thing is if your system already detected the driver. Then you'll just need to enable it. System>Administration>Restricted Drivers manager. Otherwise, just check out the thread. I'm heading out now. Good luck!
[06:07] <krammer> ww ee ni (list of stuff)
[06:08] <davubuntu> does anyone know what repository I need for dbus-x11 or how I can find out. I've tried googling but I can't find a listing for the repository it's in.
[06:08] <krammer> (EE) Aiglx error: dlsym for __dricreatednewscreen_20050727 fialed
[06:08] <vulcanius> Mr1, what type of hardware are you on?
[06:08] <IT> ok thanks
[06:09] <zarcoder> Mr1,chkconfig --list
[06:09] <zarcoder> and del some unuseful deamon
[06:09] <davubuntu> Can anyone help me with this problem
[06:09] <IT> I have tyhe driver installed, But nothing like beryl or ut2004 works or even attempts to stasrt
[06:09] <IT> *start
[06:10] <IT> I get flashy effects though
[06:10] <Mr1> zarcoder, command not found
[06:11] <nortcele> i just have a quick question.. i have beryl (awesome) but i want it to start on login. is there a way to do this?
[06:11] <parsek_77> I am trying ti install compizfusion on Kubuntu, but compiz-kde gives dependency error, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion  I followd this guide, any help?
[06:11] <HealthyElijah> IT: Gutsy is unstable, use feisty
[06:11] <davubuntu> I need help with finding out what package dbus-x11 is in... Can some one help me? Please
[06:11] <Jewfro-Macabbi> parsek_77, install the missing dependecy
[06:12] <zarcoder> Mr1,sorry i no idea
[06:12] <IT> healthy
[06:12] <krammer> i guess i ll reinstall
[06:12] <IT> Will the drivers work in fiesty
[06:12] <IT> ?
[06:12] <krammer> what ever this is it is still running
[06:12] <Jewfro-Macabbi> davubuntu, did you try "aptitude search dbus-x11"?
[06:12] <Mr1>  vulcanius: as far as what hardware?
[06:12] <nortcele> How to make an application start on logon?
[06:12] <albert__>
[06:13] <HealthyElijah> i just installed CF in feisty and it works nicely, im a noob
[06:13] <parsek_77> Jewfro-Macabbi: shouldn't it find the dependency? it says it is not installable
[06:13] <zarcoder> nortcele,search to init in google
[06:13] <davubuntu> Jewfro-Macabbi: no I didn't. I don't know that command. I just tried and nothing was returned
[06:13] <Jewfro-Macabbi> parsek_77, what are you trying to do?
[06:13] <parsek_77> install compizfusion on kubuntu
[06:13] <Jewfro-Macabbi> davubuntu, useful command - try google?
[06:14] <vulcanius> Mr1, well i guess let me first ask what is it you find slow?
[06:14] <eatupmartha> nortcele - add it as a new startup program in preferences/sessions
[06:14] <HealthyElijah> parsek_77:  this may be helpful http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/26/The-best-way-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty
[06:14] <davubuntu> Jewfro-Macabbi: done that already. That's why I'm here
[06:14] <HealthyElijah> dunno what kubuntu really is though
[06:14] <Jewfro-Macabbi> parsek_77, from where? source? apt-get?
[06:14] <Jimmi_jones> any help on getting a partition mounted under an existing directory?
[06:14] <heartsblood> Anybody here use vlc?
[06:14] <bruenig> !anybody | heartsblood
[06:14] <ubotu> heartsblood: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:14] <parsek_77> Jewfro-Macabbi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion   I looked here
[06:15] <heartsblood> ?
[06:15] <chodianoronaldo> heartsblood
[06:15] <chodianoronaldo> soz, read that as vnc, not vlc
[06:15] <chodianoronaldo> ##
[06:15] <chodianoronaldo> anyone here familiar with hosting gameservers on ubuntu?
[06:15] <HealthyElijah> parsek_77: Check  this out for sure --> http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=3679
[06:15] <Jack3> is there a floppy that lets you boot from DVD
[06:15] <Jack3> i dont think my comp normally lets me
[06:15] <Jewfro-Macabbi> davubuntu, sorry, best help I can offer...
[06:15] <eatupmartha> how do I remove multiple instances of programs in my desktop toolbar?
[06:16] <HealthyElijah> Noob question here --> Are KDE and Gnome teh main 2 competitors?
[06:16] <Jewfro-Macabbi> parsek_77, what step are you stuck at from the instructions on the page you sent?
[06:16] <HealthyElijah> Majority
[06:16] <vulcanius> HealthyElijah, yes
[06:16] <heartsblood> I'm trying to track a discrepancy between oss and direct alsa output.  it seems the default install option is to use oss however the sound cracks horribly.
[06:16] <CineScope> Jimmi_jones: right-click on the drive and select the volumes tab, expand the settings portion, type in a mount point
[06:16] <HealthyElijah> vulcanius: And I suppose the argument is subjective and there is no right or wrong?
[06:17] <CineScope> Jimmi_jones: looks like that might work, haven't had to do that yet tho
[06:17] <heartsblood> I can't seem reproduce the problem in any of my other media players
[06:17] <parsek_77> Jewfro-Macabbi: sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde
[06:17] <vulcanius> HealthyElijah, i suppose it's generally frowned upon to discuss it because it's been beaten bloody but essentially the two have different views of what a desktop should be
[06:17] <heartsblood> the discrepancy being in vlc only obviously.
[06:17] <HealthyElijah> Well for noobs it is helpful
[06:18] <HealthyElijah> So they are both good then
[06:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> parsek_77, you completed all the previious steps as indicated? added repositories and all?
[06:18] <Jimmi_jones> will try. I copied a bunch of data out of a directory under / and onto a larger drive and now want to mount the partition where the data was, will try what you suggested though, brb
[06:18] <HealthyElijah> i will stick with ubuntu/gnome for my virginity period then
[06:18] <parsek_77> Jewfro-Macabbi: yes
[06:18] <krammer> what can the recovering mode do to help me with a the problem?
[06:19] <firebird619> vulcanius: Are you there?
[06:19] <vulcanius> HealthyElijah, KDE is usually considered the pretty one but takes up more space. gnome tries to keep it simple and sweet, restricting some stuff.
[06:19] <Jewfro-Macabbi> parsek_77, what's the dependency it says you are missing?
[06:19] <Jimmi_jones> CineScope: what app am I right clicking on the drive in? I used CL for the copying.
[06:19] <vulcanius> HealthyElijah, but dont forget about the competition. check out others like XFCE
[06:20] <vulcanius> firebird619, yup
[06:20] <parsek_77> Jewfro-Macabbi: compiz-kde: Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig
[06:20] <parsek_77> but it is not installable
[06:20] <parsek_77> E: Broken packages
[06:20] <firebird619> vulcanius: Ok, I am in filelight right now looking at the / partition. What signifies the most space used. Does it go by color or how far out the part of the chart extends or what?
[06:21] <javier> ???
[06:21] <jetscreamer> !info xdiskusage
[06:21] <ubotu> xdiskusage: Displays a graphic of your disk usage with du. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.48-7 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 100 kB
[06:22] <javier> ..
[06:22] <HealthyElijah> so kubuntu just has kde on it then
[06:22] <jetscreamer> easy enough to use
[06:22] <HealthyElijah> my graphics card is old, im not messin with it
[06:22] <javier> me aburren
[06:22] <peanutb> basically, KDE with K programs
[06:22] <javier> im from argentina
[06:22] <HealthyElijah> k programs?
[06:22] <jetscreamer> you can turn down the eye candy
[06:22] <jetscreamer> kde progs
[06:22] <vulcanius> firebird619, essentially this is your filetree wrapped around a circle
[06:23] <HealthyElijah> and u cant use them on the same install right?
[06:23] <vulcanius> firebird619, each ring outward is deeper into the file tree
[06:23] <peanutb> yes
[06:23] <jetscreamer> in fact it's the second thing it asks you on first run
[06:23] <HealthyElijah> i know you cant use at same time
[06:23] <firebird619> vulcanius: So how do I tell what is taking up the most space?
[06:23] <vulcanius> firebird619, so /home will be at the center and /home/user/Desktop/Pictures/pron/ will be farther out
[06:23] <HealthyElijah> but can you install kde and gnome on same system
[06:23] <jetscreamer> yes
[06:23] <HealthyElijah> is that what xubuntu is?
[06:23] <nickrud> HealthyElijah: sure, not the integration but the apps: I just used k3b to burn a dvd in gnome
[06:23] <jetscreamer> i have kde gnome and icewm.. also kdm and gdm
[06:24] <peanutb> as well as use KDE proga on gnome and vica-versa
[06:24] <javier> kde is better
[06:24] <firebird619> vulcanius: 4,106 is usr/
[06:24] <javier> byee
[06:24] <vulcanius> firebird619, the wider the cross section the more space thats being taken up
[06:24] <peanutb> javier, thats an opinion
[06:24] <jetscreamer> i use kde stuff in gnome, and would use gnome stuff in kde but i don't want to
[06:24] <jetscreamer> you can install both full blown desktops or just pick and choose
[06:24] <vulcanius> HealthyElijah, yes Xubuntu is XFCE
[06:24] <HealthyElijah> is xubuntu just linux with xfce
[06:25] <chodianoronaldo> anyone here at all familiar with iptables
[06:25] <chodianoronaldo> and gameservers?
[06:25] <Jewfro-Macabbi> parsek_77, see if anything here helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=537836
[06:25] <vulcanius> HealthyElijah, you can install them all together
[06:25] <firebird619> vulcanius: so that is /usr, /usr/lib, and /usr/share
[06:25] <vulcanius> HealthyElijah, to switch you can log out and select which one you want to use
[06:25] <pike_> HealthyElijah: xubuntu package pulls in some other stuff too.  abiword and such
[06:25] <gokhan_> hi gys
[06:25] <HealthyElijah> well for a noob i need to stick with the most poular stuff for support reasons, maybe i iwll mess with kde soon although gnome is very fancy with compiz fusion
[06:25] <vulcanius> firebird619, ok, so click on /usr/share
[06:26] <vulcanius> firebird619, you can go deeper and deeper in by clicking on the sections
[06:26] <HealthyElijah> still cannot get raised windows in my cube though
[06:26] <nickrud> kde has excellent support as well, it's just not as good ;)
[06:26] <punzada> it's all about preference really, gnome is my cup of tea
[06:26] <peanutb> KDe is my cup of tea as it happens
[06:26] <peanutb> sort of like apples and oranges
[06:26] <parsek_77> Jewfro-Macabbi: thanks for your help
[06:26] <HealthyElijah> so as far as market share goes what do you guys think Gnome and KDE wise?
[06:26] <peanutb> in the end we're all fruit
[06:27] <nickrud> and nuts
[06:27] <HealthyElijah> 20/20
[06:27] <HealthyElijah> 35/40
[06:27] <punzada> with all the different distros
[06:27] <firebird619> vulcanius: In /usr/share, the most is 491 MB, but I can't click it and it doesn't tell me what directory it is.
[06:27] <vulcanius> HealthyElijah, probably too hard to say
[06:27] <punzada> its hard to make that assumption
[06:27] <HealthyElijah> guestimate
[06:27] <HealthyElijah> ballpark
[06:27] <peanutb> to close to call
[06:27] <HealthyElijah> it isnt 5% is it?
[06:27] <punzada> of what?
[06:27] <firebird619> vulcanius: /usr/share in general uses 2.1 GB
[06:28] <HealthyElijah> give me a rough estimate of people you come into contact with on the channel
[06:28] <HealthyElijah> ok, lets take a quick poll then
[06:28] <nickrud> wrong place to compare; ubuntu is gnome, #kubuntu is kde.
[06:28] <HealthyElijah> what is your preferrd environment?
[06:28] <punzada> exactly
[06:28] <punzada> lol
[06:28] <HealthyElijah> what do you use nick?
[06:28] <chodianoronaldo> CLI
[06:28] <HealthyElijah> im not comparing at all
[06:28] <chodianoronaldo> >both
[06:28] <chodianoronaldo> aha
[06:28] <nickrud> chodianoronaldo: you use mutt then?
[06:28] <eatupmartha> how can I troubleshoot to find out what is causing my desktop effects not to be able to enable?
[06:29] <chodianoronaldo> not at all, i use gnome because i dont really care
[06:29] <MarcoPau> hello, the mount window is not popping up any more when I plug my usb pen drive in. what am I supposed to check?
[06:29] <vulcanius> firebird619, hrm... you should be able to continue into the filetree further than just /usr/share
[06:29] <chodianoronaldo> terminal/putty's always there
[06:29] <peanutb> i use KDE/Gnome/Fluxbox depending on what im doing
[06:29] <firebird619> vulcanius: it won't let me though.
[06:29] <chodianoronaldo> aanyone here familiar with iptables?
[06:29] <HealthyElijah> well since you guys cant pull just 1 number out then I will have to assume then
[06:29] <chodianoronaldo> and their effect on cs servers displaying correctly in server lists
[06:29] <chodianoronaldo> ?
[06:29] <firebird619> vulcanius: /usr/lib uses 1.4 GB
[06:29] <vulcanius> firebird619, it just sits there?
[06:30] <nickrud> HealthyElijah: gnome for web, mail, writing, but cli for management
[06:30] <chodianoronaldo> ?
[06:30] <peanutb> HealthyElijah, try both and see which one you like
[06:30] <HealthyElijah> i assume that the majority of linux distros have gnome installed 40%
[06:30] <peanutb> both have helpful communities
[06:30] <firebird619> vulcanius: Yes, however, I can click other sections of /usr/share to go deeper, but I can't click to go deeper on the section that is taking up the most space.
[06:30] <punzada> depends on the distro
[06:30] <punzada> but i'm pretty sure you can install it to anyone that has X on it no problem
[06:30] <HealthyElijah> I assume that the runner up is kde with 30% and the rmaining 30% is divided amongst others
[06:30] <bruenig> HealthyElijah, a majority if distros probably have neither
[06:30] <punzada> so it's really a moot point
[06:30] <bruenig> HealthyElijah, seeing as linux is generally a server OS
[06:31] <punzada> yup
[06:31] <HealthyElijah> the majority of desktop distros is what i am assuming
[06:31] <peanutb> bruenig, i have to disagree
[06:31] <pike_> id say gtk has a significant lead over qt
[06:31] <HealthyElijah> Linux is going to be hitting some major market share soon
[06:31] <peanutb> HealthyElijah, seriously just use whatevr you are comfortable with
[06:32] <chodianoronaldo> hahaha
[06:32] <robert11> its a server OS and a desktop all at the same time
[06:32] <bruenig> well someone go down distrowatch and figure it out, shouldn't take too long
[06:32] <firebird619> vulcanius: I just tried running apt-get autoclean again, thinking it might work after having restarted the PC, and that worked now, it didn't give me the no space message.
[06:32] <chodianoronaldo> why do you bother debating it
[06:32] <HealthyElijah> peanutb: I am but that is not what I wanted to know
[06:32] <chodianoronaldo> it's not like you've got statistics
[06:32] <HealthyElijah> Im not debating
[06:32] <chodianoronaldo> it's all simply opinion
[06:32] <chodianoronaldo> ahah
[06:32] <HealthyElijah> I just want to know majority for support reasons
[06:32] <punzada> HealthyElijah, you use marketshare in such a board term
[06:32] <bruenig> oh pclinuxos is above ubuntu now, uh oh
[06:32] <peanutb> heck. im on osx at the moment. My desktop next to it is running linux
[06:32] <chodianoronaldo> then you'd be best looking for stats
[06:32] <chodianoronaldo> i'm on winxp
[06:32] <chodianoronaldo> pc behind is fawn
[06:33] <HealthyElijah> no, it is not opinion, there is a exact number percentage wise and that is what i am trying to pull out of you guys but none of you have a clue,
[06:33] <chodianoronaldo> well yes
[06:33] <vulcanius> firebird619, hrm... good.
[06:33] <nickrud> HealthyElijah: exactly
[06:33] <chodianoronaldo> that's pretty much exactly right
[06:33] <chodianoronaldo> in the immortal words of dane cook
[06:33] <chodianoronaldo> google that shit.
[06:33] <vulcanius> firebird619, i'd recommend removing any packages you don't plan on using
[06:33] <nickrud> rflol
[06:33] <bruenig> HealthyElijah, like I said go down distro watch, tally it up on a sheet of paper, might take you 10 min or so
[06:33] <Jimmi_jones> can someone please tell me what is wrong with this line for fstab?
[06:33] <Jimmi_jones> /dev/hdb2       /windows swap space     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-rw, 0 1
[06:33] <HealthyElijah> it is much easier to ask experienced linux users or so i thought
[06:33] <nickrud> Jimmi_jones: the swap space
[06:33] <firebird619> vulcanius: Ok, I can give that a try. Thank you for all of your help so far.
[06:33] <HealthyElijah> maybe it is easier to get an answer out of a computer
[06:34] <Jimmi_jones> spaces in the name?
[06:34] <LarNet> wow this room is growing
[06:34] <HealthyElijah> bruenig: thanks i will do that
[06:34] <chodianoronaldo> well if it was a question 'do you LIKE gnome' then you'd be fine asking it on IRC
[06:34] <vulcanius> firebird619, no problem
[06:34] <LarNet> Shows how popular Ubuntu is now
[06:34] <chodianoronaldo> but the question isn't about something subjective, you're after hard facts
[06:34] <nickrud> Jimmi_jones: no, 'swap space' has no business in that line. And, /windows is probably ntfs not ext3
[06:34] <HealthyElijah> LarNet: Linux is going to grab more and more market share
[06:34] <vulcanius> what? this is Ubuntu?! oh shit, i thought i was in #vista!
[06:34] <LarNet> ha ha
[06:35] <HealthyElijah> LarNet: I just installed ubuntu after watching COmpiuz Fusion Youtube videos
[06:35] <chodianoronaldo> vista comes on computers these days?
[06:35] <peanutb> yes. it does sadly
[06:35] <HealthyElijah> vulcanius: BOT ALERT
[06:35] <riotkittie> argh
[06:35] <LarNet> I have been using Ubuntu for over 2 years
[06:35] <vulcanius> chodianoronaldo, you can't really call them computers after that. more like giant paper weights
[06:35] <punzada> I finally installed ubuntu because I saw a fix for my shitty graphics card that i've been waiting two years for
[06:35] <nickrud> LarNet: then you remember seeing 150 people here ;)
[06:35] <Jimmi_jones> yeah, I realized after naming it that it was a dumb choice, but you live and learn. The directory is named "windows swap space" and is a shared directory over smb
[06:35] <LarNet> dumped Windose in all aspects
[06:36] <nickrud> Jimmi_jones: don't use spaces in partition names, it confuses things
[06:36] <riotkittie> i'm /this/ close to tossing my computer out of the closest window. or i would be, if my arms werent sore.
[06:36] <chodianoronaldo> now that you're all awake and alive
[06:36] <LarNet> I know, over 1k is incredible
[06:36] <chodianoronaldo> anyone here familiar with iptables
[06:36] <chodianoronaldo> ?
[06:36] <Jimmi_jones> nickrud: can you help me clean something up please?
[06:36] <chodianoronaldo> specifically their effect on cs servers not displaying on LAN server lists
[06:36] <chodianoronaldo> t,t
[06:36] <HealthyElijah> Have you guys all seen the distro timeline? --> http://730x.up.md/wp-content/44218-1.png
[06:36] <nickrud> chodianoronaldo: familiar enough to use shorewall for all my firewall needs
[06:36] <nickrud> Jimmi_jones: sure, ask away
[06:37] <chodianoronaldo> any reason why a vanilla ubuntu install running lowlatency kernel
[06:37] <nosklo> riotkittie: can you toss it in me? I am in need of computers to make some labs for the children
[06:37] <chodianoronaldo> wouldn't display cs-servers in the lan server list