[03:19] <NigelS> Leechzilla: it means that your NTFS partition is marked as dirty - that is to say it wasn't cleanly unmounted - either the machine was hard reset or something crashed
[03:19] <FourX4Luvn> Leechzilla: That means that the NTFS partition was not shut down cleanly.
[03:19] <NemesisD> Rcommander, at least not on the router end, maybe its set somewhere on the eee's end?
[03:19] <BagelMaster> No matter what media player I use, all my music always skips when I do a process on the computer, is there a very low-resource player that I haven't tried (I've tried Banshee, Rhythmbox, and XMMS), or a way to fix this?
[03:19] <Ashfire_Server> amenado: i don't think i can upload it with elinks.
[03:20] <Rcommander> NemesisD, k are you using the latest laptop kernel, no if there is no encryption on router then there is none on eee
[03:20] <RB2> BagelMaster, is this a desktop or a notebook?
[03:20] <amenado> Leechzilla-> i wonder if that kind of error is something to do with your xp having shutdown improperly, some people here mentioned that, while mounting an ntfs, it fails because xp was not shutdown properly
[03:20] <BagelMaster> RB2: Notebook
[03:20] <spaghetti_knife> Can anyone help me with my package manager problem?
[03:20] <NigelS> all he has to do is run ntfsfix or reboot into windows and exit smoothly
[03:20] <amenado> Ashfire_Server-> oh well..next time perhaps
[03:20] <danbhfive> spaghetti_knife: what's the problem?
[03:20] <Rcommander> nemesisD, also make sure if you are using KDE then you have Knetworkmanager thts what i use and works like a charm
[03:21] <mjw-> someone asked re: macbook compatibility: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AppleMacBook2007
[03:21] <Rcommander> Guys I need help installing SopCast on gutsy...any takers?
[03:21] <Ashfire_Server> amenado: can you send/recieve dcc files?
[03:21] <amenado> Ashfire_Server-> nope
[03:21] <spaghetti_knife> danbhfive: my updater/installer/synaptic/apt-get does not work well. It starts downloading at 15 kB/s and then stops.
[03:21] <RB2> BagelMaster, could be a lot of things. What notebook?
[03:21] <Jahromeo> GODDAMMIT
[03:21] <FourX4Luvn> Rcommander: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258049
[03:21] <Jahromeo> guys im back with an adept issue
[03:22] <BagelMaster> RB2, Older Dell Latitude C600
[03:22] <alberto> alo
[03:22] <alberto> alo
[03:22] <danbhfive> !enablesources | spaghetti_knife  try enabling the defaults, just check to be sure
[03:22] <ubotu> spaghetti_knife  try enabling the defaults, just check to be sure: Enable the standard Ubuntu repositories by going to System > Administration > Software Sources - See !repositories for detailed information
[03:22] <spaghetti_knife> I switched mirrors and everything, but it's still really slow.
[03:22] <NemesisD> Rcommander, laptop kernel? im using ubuntu, is there a separate kernel?
[03:22] <Jahromeo> i install synaptic - it crashes once dl finished - closes - now it wont open again
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> Jahromeo: well, i doubt that is Gods fault.
[03:22] <amenado> alberto-> speak in english please
[03:22] <Jahromeo> what is wronggg grrrr
[03:22] <spaghetti_knife> !repositories
[03:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[03:22] <Jahromeo> adept is the one thats caus all this nonsense :(((((((((((9
[03:22] <Rcommander> NemesisD ya try the laptop-latest h.o
[03:22] <mjw-> BagelMaster I'm on a Dell Latitude C510, what problem are you having?
[03:23] <NemesisD> god this is getting intolerable, sorry Rcommander just went down again
[03:23] <kjp2> anyone with expereince using netatalk ?
[03:23] <RB2> BagelMaster, you're on 7.10? What's your CPU usage when idling?
[03:23] <Ashfire_Server> amenado: oh apparently i need to refresh the page
[03:23] <amenado> Jahromeo-> ahh spend another few to re-install
[03:23] <RB2> I had a problem with trackerd being a resource hog for days on end.
[03:23] <NemesisD> Rcommander, im afraid im not familiar with your lingo
[03:23] <spaghetti_knife> danbhfive: I can't start synaptic. My program's locked.
[03:23] <BagelMaster> mjw- All the media players I have tried (XMMS, Banshee, Mplayer, Rhythmbox) skip when I do any process on my computer
[03:23] <alberto> alguien habla español?? necesito ayuda sobre ubuntu
[03:23] <Jahromeo> gonna try install synaptic via apt-get without adept
[03:23] <Rcommander> NemesisD here download laptop-netconf
[03:23] <FourX4Luvn> !spanish | alberto
[03:23] <Rcommander> in SPM
[03:23] <ubotu> alberto: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:23] <danbhfive> spaghetti_knife: did you check your sources?
[03:23] <Jahromeo> and see if synaptic does the same nonsense
[03:24] <eltux> BarryToeman: I require a password to login to my website's ftp, will it work?
[03:24] <juank_prada> loa: what else could i do?  :(
[03:24] <alberto> ok
[03:24] <alberto> ok
[03:24] <amenado> Jahromeo-> this time when installing remove your network capabilities like removing the ethernet cable so its quicker..update should be done post-install
[03:24] <alberto> bye
[03:24] <mjw-> BagelMaster i'm curious to the answer of cpu usage when idle too
[03:24] <NemesisD> Rcommander, installing now
[03:24] <alberto> chao
[03:24] <RB2> mjw-, have you seen many probs with trackerd?
[03:24] <MrPiracy> anyone familiar with java virtual machine? how can i install it on ubuntu x64?
[03:24] <BagelMaster> RB2 mjw - Percent used while idling?  That's around 7%
[03:25] <NemesisD> Rcommander, now what?
[03:25] <BagelMaster> RB2 mjw - P3
[03:25] <NigelS> !java | MrPiracy
[03:25] <ubotu> MrPiracy: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[03:25] <astro76> !flash64 | MrPiracy
[03:25] <mjw-> RB2 um, what's trackerd? :)
[03:25] <ubotu> MrPiracy: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:25] <amenado> MrPiracy-> runtime or jdk?
[03:25] <Rcommander> NemesisD, also get the backport modules
[03:25] <Rcommander> and restart you should be fine
[03:25] <RB2> mjw-, it's the indexing engine for the search applet
[03:25] <amenado> MrPiracy-> never mind, you're 64bit, am not..
[03:25] <NemesisD> Rcommander, how an i tell which are the backport modules?
[03:26] <rhineheart_m> is there a way to restore ubuntu server into its newly installed state? just like in windows..they have system restore...thanks
[03:26] <Jahromeo> synaptic is already the newest version. - according to apt-get
[03:26] <mjw-> RB2 i run on xubuntu, i don't think xubuntu uses that
[03:26] <spaghetti_knife> danbhfive: I have to be able to start apt first. I tried that, then it sank, then I control-z'd and now it's locked. How do I unlock it, or at least kill it?
[03:26] <Jahromeo> yet when i run command synaptic it doesnt work
[03:26] <amenado> rhineheart_m-> nope, but which server services you think you have fouled up?
[03:26] <RB2> mjw-, no I don't believe it does.
[03:26] <Jahromeo> nm got synaptic gonna see if that bombs
[03:26] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: what do you mean newly installed?
[03:26] <Rcommander> NemesisD, go to synaptic, and search for backport and get the latest backport modules, AFTER you have enabled them int he software sources pack
[03:26] <Jahromeo> maybe its just my adept manager that sux
[03:26] <danbhfive> spaghetti_knife: fg
[03:27] <RB2> BagelMaster, I'm assuming this is doing anything else regardless of what it is, correct?
[03:27] <Rcommander> nemesisD, if you just installed ubuntu then go to software sources, enable backports and unsupported and run and update
[03:27] <MrPiracy> amenado: i just want to get this website open and displaying normally: https://www2.bancobrasil.com.br/aapf/login.jsp?aapf.IDH=sim
[03:27] <spaghetti_knife> danbhfive: i fg'd, and fg apt-get, but nothing happened. "No such job."
[03:27] <mjw-> BagelMaster I use xubuntu on this c510, but i haven't actually tried much media playing. youtube works ok though without skipping (Celeron 1066MHz)
[03:27] <NigelS> spaghetti_knife: fg uses job numbers
[03:27] <MrPiracy> NigelS, astro76 : i just want to get this website open and displaying normally: https://www2.bancobrasil.com.br/aapf/login.jsp?aapf.IDH=sim
[03:27] <FourX4Luvn> spaghetti_knife: 'jobs'
[03:27] <NemesisD> Rcommander, are you saying its just a newer version of the same app thuogh? im still searching for laptop-netconf?
[03:27] <amenado> MrPiracy-> it prompting about trusting its key..you have already?
[03:27] <Jahromeo> how can i remove adept without removing kubuntu desktop?
[03:28] <spaghetti_knife> 'jobs' turns up nothing.
[03:28] <BagelMaster> RB2, I didn't quite get that.  I'm also running Xchat and Pidgin while I gave you that Processor &
[03:28] <spaghetti_knife> and yet apt remains locked.
[03:28] <BagelMaster> 5*
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Jahromeo,  i wouldnt even bother trying to remove adept. - Just use synaptic if you perfer it
[03:28] <Rcommander> NemesisD, no laptop-netconf is a completely different thing that does not ship with ubuntu but helps with certain WiFI connections
[03:28] <FourX4Luvn> spaghetti_knife:  then you have nothing running in the background on that terminal.  try 'ps ax | grep apt'
[03:28] <amenado> spaghetti_knife-> look in /var/lock  and see if its locked there
[03:28] <khaotik> anyone feel like walking me thru getting my web cam working. i have read a lot of forums and downloaded things but my laptop just wont pick up the device
[03:28] <Rcommander> NemesisD, updating is just somethin that might help
[03:28] <snkmad> how do i install firefox 3 beta on ubuntu?
[03:29] <MrPiracy> amenado: well, i dont see it ... all i have is an error message on the bottom that says "Applet tclJava notinited"
[03:29] <RB2> BagelMaster, I'm not sure.
[03:29] <RB2> Anyone else with more Dell notebook experience want to take a stab?
[03:29] <danbhfive> spaghetti_knife: do you have the upgrade-manager open?
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> snkmad: download the source and compile it.
[03:29] <amenado> khaotik-> juank_prada  both of you exchange notes :P
[03:29] <rhineheart_m> I ruined everything.. I tried to reinstall apache2 and the rest of the applications but I can't install it successfully
[03:29] <Rcommander> NemesisD, maybe you have to enable additional repositories, I am not sure how to check which repository its from
[03:29] <Rcommander> google it
[03:29] <Jahromeo> dr_willis i want adept gone its buggy as hell
[03:29] <MrPiracy> NigelS, astro76, amenado : i followed instructions on this website http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[03:29] <NigelS> MrPiracy: if you just want java to work do as the bot says and apt-get install the sun java package and also the plugin package - open synaptic and search for java
[03:29] <Rcommander> Is there anyone here that knows sopcast?
[03:29] <juank_prada> khaotik: what di you do?
[03:29] <spaghetti_knife> I don't have it open. I tried to apt-get install, and then control-z'd out.
[03:29] <Jahromeo> if i try remove it it wants to take kubuntu desktop with it :(
[03:29] <amenado> MrPiracy-> it prompted me for it to trust the key..
[03:29] <FourX4Luvn> snkmad: No offense, but if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't be running FF3.  It's still highly experimental.  Suitable for developers only
[03:29] <notyeta> Anybody can give me some suggestion on how to install ubuntu throw ISO?
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> notyeta: what do you mean?
[03:30] <MrPiracy> amenado: well, it never asked me that
[03:30] <Rcommander> notyeta, just put the cd in
[03:30] <snkmad> FourX4Luvn well i tried it on winxp, and seems really great
[03:30] <snkmad> wanna try on my ubuntu now
[03:30] <MrPiracy> amenado: been trying to get to this site for days now
[03:30] <notyeta> i wanna install ubuntu
[03:30] <Ashfire_Server> amenado: got it, one sec
[03:30] <Rcommander> notyeta and run the live and double click install
[03:30] <khaotik> i installed easycam, tried it under camorama and tried it under xsane
[03:30] <Dr_willis> Jahromeo,  whatever..  removeing it will break kubuntu-desktop, and that may make upgrading to the next releae more of a hassle..
[03:30] <danbhfive> spaghetti_knife: and fg didn't work? hmmm....  is it a virtual terminal?
[03:30] <amenado> MrPiracy-> you have to look around the java security
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> notyeta: have you burned the iso as an image to a disk?
[03:30] <Leechzilla> When I used the -o force option to mount my NTFS partition, it says $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, ). WARNING: Forced mount, reset $LogFile. How do I reset it?
[03:30] <spaghetti_knife> danbhfive: killall apt worked
[03:30] <MrPiracy> amenado: i did, i even installed firefox32
[03:30] <spaghetti_knife> thanks, guys.
[03:30] <notyeta> yep, i burned it into a cd
[03:30] <Jahromeo> meh fine ill leave it then but i HATE IT :(
[03:30] <FourX4Luvn> snkmad: Ok.. Just know that you were warned :)   Here's a link for you... http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[03:30] <spaghetti_knife> killall is awesome.
[03:30] <Rcommander> notyeta just restart comp and boot from CD
[03:30] <khaotik> everytime it pops up could not connect to video device /dev/video0
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> notyeta: restart your PC, with the disk in your CD drive, and make ure your computer is set to boot from the CD drive first
[03:31] <snkmad> FourX4Luvn thx
[03:31] <Ashfire_Server> amenado: http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l244/Ashfire908/NetworkLayout2.png
[03:31] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive<<< just like when I just finished installing ubuntu
[03:31] <Dr_willis> Jahromeo,  removing it wont break 'kde' but it will also remove the meta-package kubuntu-desktop. Thats not a big deal really .
[03:31] <cosmodad> can anyone tell me if the Load_Cycles/disk crashes issue affects non-notebook disks as well?
[03:31] <MrPiracy> amenado: there's not many options around java and sun-java6-plugin says there's no package candiate
[03:31] <spaghetti_knife> I went to software sources, switched to the main server.
[03:31] <notyeta> but i am confused on how to format the disk
[03:31] <amenado> MrPiracy-> umm maybe they have you marked as local user..so you are not allowed :P  some banks dont allow local users only imported ones..heh
[03:31] <MrPiracy> amenado: went to www.java.com and it says my computer has the latest java installed .... i'm lost
[03:31] <spaghetti_knife> Now it's downloading files, and it's not working anymore.
[03:31] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: do you have a gui?  or is this gui-less?
[03:31] <juank_prada> amenado: i tried using easycam but when i got the list of usb devices all of them are like 'Bus 002 Device 001: id 0000:0000
[03:31] <khaotik> any suggestions
[03:31] <khaotik> ???
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> notyeta: we'll deal with that once you get the CD running, when you get Ubuntu started, come here and we'll help you
[03:31] <notyeta> i wanna intall two system one is window another is ubuntu
[03:32] <mjw-> BagelMaster so does the cpu usage shoot up to 100 when you do anything media related - or is it video or audio only/
[03:32] <MrPiracy> amenado: this is my home banking page. i use it for years. i am sure it works fine under IE
[03:32] <SJrX> Hmmmmm
[03:32] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive<< m not running gui... m accessing the server through ssh
[03:32] <juank_prada> khaotik: nope.. actually i though you fixed the problem
[03:32] <hipekhop> hi
[03:32] <amenado> MrPiracy-> there is in regards to security..you have to google for the java security info
[03:32] <FourX4Luvn> juank_prada: Uninstall all your other USB devices.. then whatever one is left must be the camera ;)
[03:32] <SJrX> When I suspend my new system, the clock changes time when I resume
[03:32] <SJrX> How can I fix it
[03:32] <FourX4Luvn> juank_prada: Excuse me.. unplug them.. not uninstall them
[03:32] <notyeta> but how should i format the disk?
[03:32] <spaghetti_knife> Maybe it's my isp. I'll call them tomorrow.
[03:32] <hipekhop> Plise help, i cant registry #
[03:32] <SJrX> Ubuntu was originally installed on a previous machine
[03:32] <hipekhop> :(
[03:32] <khaotik> its driving me crazy. what kind of system you running??
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> notyeta: are you listening?
[03:32] <juank_prada> FourX4Luvn: i did... but all of the output is 0000:0000 which means there is nothing plugged
[03:32] <danbhfive> !info orphan | rhineheart_am
[03:33] <ubotu> rhineheart_am: Package orphan does not exist in gutsy
[03:33] <notyeta> yep, i listened what u said
[03:33] <danbhfive> crap
[03:33] <Rcommander> notyeta pm me if you need more help
[03:33] <hipekhop> hi
[03:33] <amenado> MrPiracy okay..just making a comment that some banks dont allow local users, only imported ones :)
[03:33] <BagelMaster> mjw- It goes between 12% and 22% while playing
[03:33] <Jahromeo> k updating while i sleep lets hope synaptic isnt as lame as adept
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> notyeta: then what part did you not understand?
[03:33] <juank_prada> khaotik: im in a Dell inspirton 1420
[03:33] <BagelMaster> mjw- rarely hits 22% though
[03:33] <zetto> hi
[03:33] <Raspberry> I've bene having lots of the 3d and I've found this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa
[03:33] <mjw-> BagelMaster and by playing are you referring to video only,  audio only, or both together
[03:33] <notyeta> sorry, i can't understand you well
[03:33] <Leechzilla> When I used the -o force option to mount my NTFS partition, it says $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, ). WARNING: Forced mount, reset $LogFile. How do I reset it?
[03:33] <BagelMaster> mjw- audio only
[03:33] <FourX4Luvn> juank_prada: Are you sure the camera is supported by ubuntu?
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> notyeta: ok.. boot your Ubuntu CD, then come back here, and we'll talk you through partitioning your drive and installing
[03:34] <rhineheart_m> ubotu<<what do you mean with that?
[03:34] <NigelS> Leechzilla: yes, we told you how to solve this
[03:34] <amenado> Ashfire_Server-> thats no more different than what you pasted earlier
[03:34] <mjw-> BagelMaster and it goes to 12-22% and starts skipping?
[03:34] <Starnestommy> rhineheart_m: ubotu is a bot
[03:34] <Leechzilla> NigelS: I didn't get it
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> !ubotu | rhineheart_m
[03:34] <juank_prada> FourX4Luvn: it worked before.. i found the device under gstreamer-properties and i tested it... but now it no longer appears
[03:34] <ubotu> rhineheart_m: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:34] <FourX4Luvn> NigelS: He'd logged out when you answered him.
[03:34] <MrPiracy> amenado: this is my bank, it accepts connections from brazil
[03:34] <NigelS> Leechzilla: your ntfs drive wasn't shut down cleanly - you should run ntfsfix on it or boot into windows and shutdown normally
[03:34] <danbhfive> !info deborphan | rhineheart_am maybe this package will help you, I don't know how to use it myself
[03:34] <ubotu> rhineheart_am maybe this package will help you, i don't know how to use it myself: deborphan (source: deborphan): Find orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.23 (gutsy), package size 69 kB, installed size 420 kB
[03:34] <Ashfire_Server> amenado: oh, i see what you meant by routes. if something requests something from the internet, using the server as a gateway, it routes it to the gateway. (by setting a default route on the serrver). it's not an actual router
[03:34] <BagelMaster> mjw- Only if I minimize something, open something, or do any kind of process
[03:34] <wastedyouth> wow I'm now windows free
[03:34] <amenado> MrPiracy i heard you,
[03:34] <notyeta> ur...maybe it's a tough task
[03:34] <NigelS> FourX4Luvn: not a good idea to quit a channel when asking a question
[03:35] <rhineheart_m> what's that for?
[03:35] <NemesisD> Rcommander, ok i rebooted, anything special i need to do?
[03:35] <FourX4Luvn> NigelS: You speak the truth.  :)
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> notyeta: what is a tough task?
[03:35] <amenado> Ashfire_Server-> something to that effect yes
[03:35] <notyeta> i need prepare some material.
[03:35] <Ashfire_Server> amenado: one sec i just had an idea...
[03:35] <Rcommander> NemesisD you should be good to go
[03:35] <freafdsh> Whenever I install a newer nvidia driver from the nvidia website the nvidia driver stops loading completely, and I'm stuck with a generic driver. Any suggestions?
[03:35] <Ashfire_Server> amenado: (which will probaly disconnect me.)
[03:35] <Rcommander> ND, are you on KDE or Gnome?
[03:35] <FourX4Luvn> juank_prada: Odd.. have you tried unplugging the camera and plugging it back in?
[03:35] <mjw-> BagelMaster what is the result of lspci | grep -i audio
[03:35] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: if you are talking to me, please use my name, it highlights the message.  the tab key can help with this
[03:35] <cosmodad> can anyone tell me if the Load_Cycles/disk crashes issue affects non-notebook disks as well?
[03:36] <notyeta> install ubuntu is a tough task, i thought
[03:36] <juank_prada> FourX4Luvn: kinda hard, its an integrated webcam in my laptop
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> notyeta: no, its quite easy actually
[03:36] <spaghetti_knife> My isp might be blocking some of my traffic or something.
[03:36] <eekrano> freafdsh, i had the same problem, I had to match the kernel version- what kernel are you using?
[03:36] <FourX4Luvn> juank_prada: Oh.. sorry.. I thought it was USB for some reason
[03:36] <spaghetti_knife> Thanks, dudes.
[03:36] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive: sorry..this is my first time here
[03:36] <Rubin> anyone know why totem cant play location http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/exhibition/scc5/results/iyxhrs.mov but if i save that mov to disk, it can?
[03:36] <larson9999> juank_prada, what kind of laptop?
[03:36] <BagelMaster> mjw- lspci | grep -i audio
[03:36] <Phrozen_One> what would be the easiest method of booting to a console instead of gnome by default?
[03:36] <freafdsh> eekrano, what command do I use to determine the kernel version?
[03:36] <FourX4Luvn> juank_prada: There isn't some key combination to enable/disable it then is there?
[03:36] <juank_prada> larson9999: Dell inspiron 1420
[03:36] <notyeta> could u give me some reference?
[03:36] <amenado> juank_prada-> umm   tail -f /var/log/messages and unplug your camera, then plug it back in..to see if its detected..you have to be patient and wait though
[03:36] <BagelMaster> mjw- Sorry: dan@Dan-laptop:~$ lspci | grep -i audio
[03:36] <BagelMaster> 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 10)
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> !install | notyeta
[03:36] <ubotu> notyeta: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[03:37] <Flannel> freafdsh: uname -a
[03:37] <eekrano> freafdsh, whats the output of    dmesg | grep NVRM
[03:37] <mjw-> BagelMaster and what does glxinfo | grep -i direct  return
[03:37] <Levarris> Wonder if anyone can help me out here, Im trying to find a driver for a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum,  Ive heard its not compatible by default with Ubuntu.   Id more than like want sound once its installed.
[03:37] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive: what web based control panel can you recommend for ubuntu server?
[03:37] <FourX4Luvn> amenado: It's not external.. it's built into the laptop
[03:37] <larson9999> juank_prada, too bad, i just got my embedded camera working for my hp.  guess that won't help you
[03:37] <freafdsh> 2.6.22-14-generic #1
[03:37] <juank_prada> amenado: i cant unplug my camera its integrated
[03:37] <amenado> notyeta-> we have told you earlier, burn the iso into your cdrom disk then use that to boot
[03:37] <notyeta> okay, thanks a lot, i will have a try
[03:37] <juank_prada> larson9999: tell me what di you do
[03:37] <amenado> FourX4Luvn-> ahh..
[03:37] <BagelMaster> mjw- dan@Dan-laptop:~$ glxinfo | grep -i direct
[03:37] <BagelMaster> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[03:37] <BagelMaster> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:37] <FourX4Luvn> juank_prada: There isn't some key combination to enable/disable it then is there?
[03:37] <eekrano> freafdsh, or uname -r
[03:38] <mjw-> BagelMaster what does lspci | grep -i video  return
[03:38] <MTecknology> What's the easiest way to install 32bit firefox on amd64?
[03:38] <juank_prada> FourX4Luvn: nope... at least not that i know
[03:38] <freafdsh>  loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  100.14.19  Wed Sep 12 14:12:24 PDT 2007
[03:38] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: no big deal, I might accidentally ignore you.  deborphan will identify which packages are orphaned.  A base install is simple the package ubuntu-server.   So, anything that is orphaned other than ubuntu-server can go, to get back to a vanilla install
[03:38] <amenado> juank_prada-> maybe you have to look into your bios to disable/re-enable it
[03:38] <NemesisD> Rcommander, what exactly did that do?
[03:38] <notyeta> okay, thanks all
[03:38] <larson9999> juank_prada, i had to compile a driver someone made during the last year for it.
[03:38] <NemesisD> out of curiosity
[03:38] <freafdsh> eekrano that is what I get now, but this is when the system is running correctly with an older driver, (back up)
[03:38] <BagelMaster> mjw- Nothing.
[03:38] <juank_prada> amenado: ok.. ill check that
[03:38] <Rcommander> NemesisD, exactly what did what do? the new kernel?
[03:38] <Rcommander> i mean
[03:38] <mjw-> BagelMaster what does lspci | grep -i vga   return (sorry, misspoke there before)
[03:39] <freafdsh> eekrano I would really appreciate a fix for this, if you can help
[03:39] <Rcommander> ND, netconf?
[03:39] <MrPiracy> ok, i have several aditional fonts installed on gutsy and most of the programs can see/use these fonts. is there an easy way to make them available for ALL programs (ie. aMSN)?
[03:39] <khaotik> how do i find out what the specific type of camora i have???
[03:39] <NemesisD> Rcommander, i don't have a new kernel, i didnt quite unde4rstand what you meant by that
[03:39] <BagelMaster> mjw- No worries: dan@Dan-laptop:~$ glxinfo | grep -i direct
[03:39] <BagelMaster> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[03:39] <BagelMaster> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:39] <mjw-> BagelMaster also don't send back the command line you typed in, just adds to channel noise
[03:39] <NemesisD> Rcommander,  i just installed that package you recommended, did you mean the eee bios or summat?
[03:39] <BagelMaster> mjw- My apologies: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)
[03:39] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive: so you mean..when I will deoprhaned the system...it will go back to its OS state?
[03:39] <jack-desktop> who knows anything about virtualbox?
[03:39] <theurs> man wget
[03:39] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: I don't know about webbase control thingies
[03:40] <Rcommander> NemesisD, i know sorry i am doing too many things at once, mistyped, i mean the netconf thing? is that what you are asking what did that do?
[03:40] <juank_prada> amenado: after doing that 'tail  -f /var/log/messages' should i wait till i get back to the prompt?
[03:40] <theurs>        --tries=number
[03:40] <theurs>            Set number of retries to number.  Specify 0 or inf for infinite retrying.  The default is to retry 20 times, with the exception of fatal errors like ‘‘connection
[03:40] <theurs>            refused’’ or ‘‘not found’’ (404), which are not retried.
[03:40] <mjw-> BagelMaster could you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to a pastebin?
[03:40] <BagelMaster> mjw- Yea, I'm not paying attention to what I'm highlighting, my apologies
[03:40] <theurs> how to force it keep trying anyway
[03:40] <NemesisD> Rcommander, oh, yes
[03:40] <BagelMaster> mjw- No problem
[03:40] <twavis> i need a boot disk to boot off of a usb drive that's not supported by my bios.. is this possible?
[03:40] <FourX4Luvn> khaotik: You could try checking out http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and see if your laptop model is listed.  There may be some advice on how to get the camera working.
[03:40] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: yeah, the original state is when you only have ubuntu-server installed, and all the packages it depends on
[03:40] <Rcommander> NemesisD, Honestly...don't know...but it worked for some...someone else here had suggested that to me...
[03:40] <juank_prada> amenado: so far this is what i got from that command ->http://pastebin.com/m5677370d
[03:40] <eekrano> freafdsh, thats the same version I'm using- I tried using a later release and had the same problem-
[03:41] <NemesisD> Rcommander, works for me :P are you an eee user as well? if so, how are you liking it
[03:41] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive: that's great! at least I will not be spending most of my time formatting the disk
[03:41] <Fare> will ubuntu work with 256MB of memory?
[03:41] <snkmad> jack-desktop i run virtualbox here, whats your problem?
[03:41] <mjw-> BagelMaster what I suspect is happening (at least partially) is that the non-direct rendering is taking a heavy toll on your performance. Any sort of window operation will be painful without direct rendering, especially on a slower computer
[03:41] <FourX4Luvn> twavis: Nope.. Afraid that before you boot, the BIOS is all you have, so if it doesn't support the drive, you're kind of SOL
[03:41] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: and you should make sure to have a kernel installed to, like the linux-generic meta package, though there may be a server one
[03:41] <BagelMaster> mjw- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56296/
[03:41] <Rcommander> NemesisD, oh i am loving the eee its awesome..just wished for a bigger HDD
[03:41] <Fare> it's fscking damn slow on my gf's R40
[03:41] <mjw-> Fare xubuntu is better for lower memory situations
[03:41] <freafdsh> eekrano What can I do to get a "kernel match"?
[03:41] <NemesisD> Rcommander, sd cards are extremely cheap these days i hear
[03:41] <eekrano> freafdsh, i think you'd have to recompile the kernel- but I'm actually not too sure to be honest.
[03:42] <Fare> is 256MB low memory these days?
[03:42] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive: so how to do i
[03:42] <mjw-> Fare relatively... ;)
[03:42] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: well, play with deborphan, the gtkorphan package is easy, im afraid the cli version is more difficult to use, and I can't help ya, since I've never done it
[03:42] <freafdsh> Ah, ok.
[03:42]  * Fare remembers the bad old days when 8MB was a lot
[03:42] <gretsch_drums> can anyone recommend a good AGP nvidia card to use with ubuntu?
[03:42] <Dr_willis> 256mb ram - is uber low. :)
[03:42] <FourX4Luvn> mjw-: fluxbox, ratpoison, blackbox, or the like if you really want to cut down memory usage yet still have a graphical interface
[03:42] <Fare> (or the worst old days when 64KB was so much memory)
[03:42] <KlrSp1> anyone know how to get samba and winbind working properly?
[03:42] <Rcommander> NemesisD, ya but they aren't fast enough correct me if i am wrong, but cant the eee only support 4 more gigs through SD?
[03:42] <eekrano> freafdsh, If I attempt it again and get it I'll be sure to let you know... but I'm just happy I'm not stuck with nv anymore!
[03:42] <freafdsh> What is the latest nvidia driver that works with your 2.6.22-14-generic kernel?
[03:42] <KlrSp1> !winbind
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winbind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <amenado> juank_prada-> it looks like you system recognized it as an input device like a keyboard or a mouse
[03:42] <Dr_willis> gretsch_drums,  depends on your budget.  - Id track down one with a fanless design if gettting a new card.
[03:43] <gretsch_drums> ok
[03:43] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive: is that something with GUI?
[03:43] <gretsch_drums> i have a 6200 with 128mb ram, and no fan
[03:43] <freafdsh> eekrano did you get better compiz fusion performance after updating the driver?
[03:43] <Dr_willis> gretsch_drums,  they got some in the under $40 range - or at leas tthey yuse to
[03:43] <juank_prada> amenado: so is there something that can be done to get it back to work?
[03:43] <gretsch_drums> and a 5500 dual-headed
[03:43] <gretsch_drums> with a fan
[03:43] <jack-desktop> snkmad, if i try to install windows xp using a recovery disk in virtual box
[03:43] <NemesisD> Rcommander, i think the limit is the media not the port, i heard sd cards go up to 16-32 gb
[03:43] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: gtkorphan is the gui front end to deborphan
[03:43] <jack-desktop> snkmad, is there any chance it'll mess up my harddrive at all
[03:43] <gretsch_drums> but the 6200 doesn't work well at all in ubuntu
[03:43] <eekrano> freafdsh, absolutely-
[03:43] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive: but how about if I will not be using GUI... i just want the server be accessed through ssh
[03:44] <amenado> juank_prada-> i dont know, i dont own  a laptop nor a video camera
[03:44] <gretsch_drums> the menus don't get rendered and the desktop is extremely sluggish
[03:44] <gretsch_drums> the 5500 is PCI
[03:44] <Rcommander> NemesisD, ya they do, but i thought the eee cant support SDHC cards, maybe(i hope) i am wrong
[03:44] <snkmad> jack-desktop no, its all virtual, the hdd from virtual machines are just files inside your real HDD
[03:44] <freafdsh> damnit eek, I will not rest until I find a way to update this driver!
[03:44] <juank_prada> amenado: oh.. ok thanks for your help :)
[03:44] <mjw-> BagelMaster do you happen to know how much video memory you have
[03:44] <eekrano> freafdsh, you should be getting good performance too if you're using nvidia instead of nv
[03:44] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: then look at orphaner
[03:44] <snkmad> jack-desktop i do have winxp installed virtualbox here, works just fine
[03:44] <danbhfive> rhineheart_m: you are going to have to use google, or ask someone else, because I don't know.  Sorry
[03:44] <NemesisD> Rcommander, im not sure, i havent looked into it too extensively, im gonna try to keep mine pretty light
[03:44] <BagelMaster> mjw- Not offhand
[03:44] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: it's curses based, if I recall.  Doesn't require X anyway, whatever it uses.
[03:45] <Rcommander> NemesisD, awesome hey i gotta run i'll catch ya later
[03:45]  * Rcommander is away
[03:45] <NemesisD> Rcommander, have a nice evening, thx for the help
[03:45] <Rcommander> NemesisD, you are very welcome!
[03:45] <gretsch_drums> anyone know of an AGP problems in ubuntu?
[03:45] <rhineheart_m> danbhfive: thanks for the advice...I appreciate it.. I will try FourX4Luvn
[03:45] <Levarris> anyone know if my Audigy 2 Platinum ZS will work in Ubuntu?
[03:45] <gretsch_drums> or problems with the 6200 nvidia card?
[03:45] <danbhfive> np
[03:45] <freafdsh> eekrano in xorg.conf it says "nvidia", does that mean I am not using nv?
[03:46] <mjw-> BagelMaster since it's scrolled off now, could you pastebin the results of lspci -vvv   ? (warning: it's going to be a lot)
[03:46] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: Yeah.. I just checked it out again.. it's curses based.  No X requirements, but still nice and easy to use.
[03:46] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn<<<< May I know how orphaner works?
[03:46] <eekrano> freafdsh, right. what do you get with glxgears?
[03:46] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn: how and for what use is it about?
[03:46] <mjw-> BagelMaster one of your problems MAY be that you are running short of video memory, which could cause direct rendering to not function
[03:46] <freafdsh> 3137, with compiz fusion running
[03:47] <BagelMaster> mjw- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56297/
[03:47] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: Once it's installed you run 'sudo orphaner' and it gives you a curses based view of what packages are orphaned.  You select which ones to remove and hit 'ok'
[03:47] <freafdsh> eekrano 3137 with compiz fusion running
[03:47] <mjw-> BagelMaster and again a lack of direct rendering is going to take a big performance hit on a slower machine
[03:47] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn: is there a way to do is via ssh?
[03:47] <BagelMaster> mjw- I se.
[03:47] <BagelMaster> mjw- I see*
[03:47] <Led_Zeppelin> Trying to configure ndiswrapper, when I do a make I keep getting these messages: http://pastebin.com/d6fed690d
[03:47] <Led_Zeppelin> can someone please assist?
[03:48] <eekrano> freafdsh, well thats better than without the restricted module!
[03:48] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: Yes.  Just ssh into the box, and do 'sudo orphaner'  (once it's installed of course) 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install orphaner'
[03:48] <freafdsh> eekrano and 4812 with metacity
[03:48] <eekrano> freafdsh, i'd love to stick around and lend more of a hand- but my g/f wants to to get off and watch a movie... grr...
[03:49] <freafdsh> eekrano I'm only on a 8400M GS, not exactly a robust card.
[03:49] <freafdsh> eekrano ok take it ez
[03:49] <KlrSp1> anyone know how to get samba and winbind working properly?
[03:49] <eekrano> freafdsh, yeah, I get 6500 FPS with my 6800 gt oc
[03:49] <jack-desktop> snkmad, so there is 0% it will try to partition my real harddrive?
[03:49] <freafdsh> eekrano nvclock doesn't support my card :(
[03:49] <Blaenk> darkaznmonkey: what's up
[03:49] <FourX4Luvn> winbind?  Is that some sort of Windows DNS or something?
[03:49] <darkaznmonkey> u on blaenk?
[03:49] <Blaenk> darkaznmonkey: yes...
[03:49] <darkaznmonkey> yea
[03:49] <mjw-> BagelMaster i'm going to be pastebinning an updated xorg.conf in a bit, have to think about this for a little while
[03:49] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn: I've been trying to ssh the box but it gives this error already after I messed up the box: network connection refused
[03:50] <Blaenk> darkaznmonkey: check this out
[03:50] <snkmad> jack-desktop yeah not a single change
[03:50] <snkmad> it will create a file
[03:50] <eekrano> freafdsh, sorry bout jettin, but I'll be sure to see where you're at if I see you on again
[03:50] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: Ahh.. Well then that will have to be fixed at the console of the remote computer.
[03:50] <freafdsh> k, take it ez eekrano
[03:50] <BagelMaster> mjw- Thanks, I'm starting to understand this a bit more, with the help of you and google.
[03:50] <Led_Zeppelin> Anyone here configure ndiswrapper on AMD64?
[03:51] <darkaznmonkey> fullmetal
[03:51] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn: is that something that we really have to reinstall and reconfigure the ssh server?
[03:51] <snkmad> jack-desktop inside /home/user/.Virtualbox/VDI/nameofvm.vdi
[03:51] <FourX4Luvn> Led_Zeppelin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11956
[03:51] <|seb|> how stop install from saying a package is "untrusted" ?
[03:52] <bruenig> apt-key
[03:52] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: I don't know.. I don't know what the problem is with the server.. It may simply need to be started (perhaps it isn't set to start on boot, and the system was rebooted?)  it's hard to say what the problem could be without checking out the server
[03:52] <Rcommander> hey guys I need Sopcast help on gutsy
[03:53] <jordanjay29> I'm having problems with the network in vmware workstation 6.0 running the current stable ubuntu version as a guest on a winxp sp2 host. I've tried both bridged and NAT networking settings, but neither seem to allow a connection to the internet.
[03:53] <FourX4Luvn> Rcommander: Have you checked this out? http://www.google.com/search?q=sopcast+on+gutsy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[03:53] <Led_Zeppelin> FourX4Luvn, thanks, not easy for newbies :-)
[03:53] <jordanjay29> Wait, actually, nevermind. I just set the virtual settings to NAT, booted into Ubuntu and the 'net works now.
[03:53] <FourX4Luvn> Led_Zeppelin: So that got you going then?
[03:54] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn: okay..I just forget what command I used..I read it in one of the forums...as I tried reinstalling the apache2 server.. but it gives me the message that something all packages installed is being removed
[03:54] <sixpence> Flash for Firefox (32 bit architecture) has been very unstable. Like I can only watch one flash video per session at times and sometimes audo dies. Has anyone else been having this problem.
[03:54] <Blaenk> !compiz-fusion
[03:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:54] <jordanjay29> Guess it was the threat of being solved that scared it into working. :P
[03:54] <Rcommander> Fourx4Luvn, i have been searching for past 2 hours, and all the stuff on the forum isn't really working
[03:54] <Led_Zeppelin> FourX4Luvn, to an extend...I am pretty sure I have my kernel-headers installed. Still getting compile errors
[03:54] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: You'll have to be more specific
[03:54] <Rcommander> on my x86_64
[03:55] <Led_Zeppelin> dpkg -l linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic FourX4Luvn : def installed
[03:55] <FourX4Luvn> Led_Zeppelin: Ok.. well that was the best I could do.. I don't have a 64bit install so I'm just guessing.
[03:55] <mehdi__> Hello anyone got a tutorial of how to install java in ubuntu
[03:55] <mehdi__> thanks
[03:55] <FourX4Luvn> Led_Zeppelin: Just remember.. Google is your friend ;-)
[03:55] <Starnestommy> mehdi__: amd64 or i386?
[03:55] <sixpence> What's the package name for flash in Ubuntyu?
[03:55] <Starnestommy> sixpence: flashplugin-nonfree ?
[03:55] <Led_Zeppelin> lol yep FourX4Luvn
[03:56] <mehdi__> i386
[03:56] <Rcommander> mehdi just use synaptic
[03:56] <sixpence> Starnestommy: And if I want to downgrade?
[03:56] <CoastonCute> Silly question. Does anyone in here bother with the PCSX emulator?
[03:56] <mehdi__> i cannot find java in synaptic
[03:57] <Starnestommy> mehdi__: try checking https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:57] <|seb|> bruenig: thanks..i'll look into it
[03:57] <FourX4Luvn> !java
[03:57] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[03:57] <frank23> I have downloaded a x264 video 1920x1080 that is choppy because the cpu can't keep up. I have a AMD Athlon64 3200+ Any ideas how to get better performance? I tried mplayer and xine and get the same result.
[03:57] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn:and after that...I couldn't reboot the box already remotely.. if I will do: reboot now It will give me file or directory cannot be found
[03:57] <CoastonCute> Upgrade your cpu?
[03:58] <mjw-> BagelMaster http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56299/
[03:58] <larson9999> CoasterMaster, i ran it many moons ago.  now i have a ps1 so i don't need to :)
[03:58] <mjw-> BagelMaster back up your old xorg.conf before using that
[03:58] <CoasterMaster> larson9999, ?
[03:58] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: Is this a new install that you were just trying to configure?
[03:58] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: Or do you have data on it?
[03:58] <BagelMaster> mjw- will do, should I shut down any media related things first?
[03:58] <larson9999> CoastonCute, , i ran it many moons ago.  now i have a ps1 so i don't need to :)
[03:58] <natlinuxnewb> hi all
[03:59] <mjw-> BagelMaster no, you'll have to restart X anyway before it will take effect
[03:59] <larson9999> CoasterMaster, me and tab complete still fight after all these years
[03:59] <BagelMaster> mjw- ah
[03:59] <frank23> CoastonCute: yeah.. that's not really an option. I was just wondering if there is anything I could do to squeeze out more performance
[03:59] <CoasterMaster> larson9999, haha, it's cool
[03:59] <mjw-> BagelMaster restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace but keep in mind it will shut things down without asking you to save or anything
[03:59] <Liono_> wine.. and virtualisation? any other method used to play non native linux games?
[03:59] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn: I have data on it.. I installed webmin already to it... but if there is a command that I could erase everything..like in a clean install..I am willing to lose everything there
[03:59] <BagelMaster> mjw- ok
[03:59] <CoastonCute> So not a clue on how to get it to work, it's not even reading the cds
[04:00] <Twin> !iptables
[04:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:00] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: It sounds like the best option to me.. Format and reinstall.  Will be quicker than trying to sort out what was removed and what wasn't
[04:00] <frank23> !xvmc
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvmc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <mjw-> BagelMaster once you restart (and this should break anything i hope, conservative changes, paste the results of glxinfo | grep -i direct
[04:00] <mjw-> BagelMaster should NOT break anything that is ;)
[04:00] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: BUT of course that's only an option if you have a very recent backup or if you don't have any data to worry about losing
[04:00] <natlinuxnewb> I have just installed 7.10. Why does my monitor say "64k / 60Hz Frequency is out of range" then it carries on loading and the startup freezes (or seems to freeze - I can still hear the HD spinning) at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)"?
[04:01] <BagelMaster> mjw- OK
[04:01] <MrPiracy> ok, i have several aditional fonts installed on gutsy and most of the programs can see/use these fonts. is there an easy way to make them available for ALL programs (ie. aMSN)?
[04:02] <FourX4Luvn> MrPiracy: If X can use them, the programs can to.. You just have to tell the programs what fonts to use.  That, of course, would be specific to each individual app.
[04:02] <chicagonpg> Does anyone know where the audacious files directory is to add themes,is located? Thanks
[04:02] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn: thanks for the advice.. I am decided to do the reformat thing then.. (m sure this won't happen--just for curiosity sake) Is there a way to reinstall the ubuntu server without a cd?
[04:02] <natlinuxnewb> rhineheart_m I believe there is. gimme a sec
[04:03] <natlinuxnewb> !install | rhineheart_m
[04:03] <ubotu> rhineheart_m: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:03] <jordanjay29> Anybody have any ideas how to get a mouse scroll wheel to work with Ubuntu running as guest in vmware?
[04:03] <AtomicSpark> yes. the only other way i know of would be to do a network install.
[04:03] <MrPiracy> FourX4Luvn: well, aMSN for example doesnt list it on its font options
[04:03] <natlinuxnewb> Or an Internet install
[04:04] <BagelMaster> mjw- direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[04:04] <BagelMaster> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:04] <gram> What determines what is included in "Places" menu?
[04:04] <FourX4Luvn> MrPiracy: Are you sure you're looking in the right directory for the fonts?
[04:04] <natlinuxnewb> rhineheart_m: a few more minutes and ill have the link for you
[04:04] <mjw-> BagelMaster are you using an external monitor with this laptop?
[04:05] <gram> How do you negotiate what is included in "Places" [menu]?
[04:05] <MrPiracy> FourX4Luvn: how can i be sure? all the other programs can see these fonts, but aMSN and a few other progs
[04:05] <rhineheart_m> AtomicSpark<<< network install? How to do it.. I removed everthing in the box actually.... The cd-rom drives...floppy...
[04:05] <Starnestommy> gram: nautilus controls it somehow
[04:05] <BagelMaster> mjw- No.
[04:05] <CoastonCute> So is there anyone in here that knows PCSX?
[04:05] <mjw-> BagelMaster so the native LCD resolution is 1400x1050?
[04:06] <rhineheart_m> natlinuxnewb: I will be happy waiting for the link
[04:06] <FourX4Luvn> MrPiracy: I was only half right, it seems: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3571
[04:06] <gram> Starnestommy, How does the user change [include or exclude] entries in "Places"?
[04:06] <Twin> nyone know, why on tracker i cannot connect to seeder that is no connectable?
[04:06] <gram> How is it customized?
[04:06] <FourX4Luvn> MrPiracy: That should get you pointed in the right direction at least.
[04:06] <gram> Or IS it possible to change it?
[04:06] <natlinuxnewb> rhineheart_m: this is one way. Not the link i was looking for but http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[04:06] <gram> Surely it is a user defined menu?  Right?
[04:06] <BagelMaster> mjw- Yes.
[04:07] <Starnestommy> gram: some of it is controlled by nautilus's bookmarks menu
[04:07] <AtomicSpark> gram: open a Nautilus window
[04:07] <mjw-> BagelMaster well, you're not likely to like this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370219
[04:07] <jordanjay29> Mouse scroll wheel as guest under vmware? Possible or futile? Do mouse scroll wheels even work in native installations?
[04:07] <FourX4Luvn> MrPiracy: If can make a suggestion.. ditch amsn and go with pidgin.. I think you'll find it's a better program in most aspects.  And it does support TTF fonts
[04:07] <CoastonCute> Pidgin doesn't have mic or cam support, only downside.
[04:07] <AtomicSpark> gram: drag and drop a folder to the left menu when it says places
[04:08] <pyrak> i can't play dvds
[04:08] <pyrak> and i got all the repos
[04:08] <mjw-> BagelMaster it appears that the m3 is not capable of direct rendering above 1024x768x16bpp, and that may be the primary reason you get skipping from trying to do other things at the same time
[04:08] <AtomicSpark> should work for you :D
[04:08] <pyrak> vlc and ogle just crash
[04:08] <MrPiracy> FourX4Luvn: pidgin doesnt have webcam feature
[04:08] <natlinuxnewb> rhineheart_m: what version ubuntu do you do?
[04:08] <gram> Starnestommy, AtomicSpark  Thank you
[04:08] <cosmodad> anyone has an idea why I don't have /etc/init.d/hdparm although I have just re-installed hdparm?
[04:08] <FourX4Luvn> MrPiracy: I didn't know that.  I don't have a cam... eh.. that sucks.
[04:08] <PKdoR>    How can I uninstall sudo tar xvzf /home/pkdor/Desktop/nerolinux-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86.tar.gz
[04:08] <rhineheart_m> natlinuxnewb: gutsy gibbon
[04:08] <chrisb_> does anyone know how i would go about installing ubuntu server?
[04:08] <BagelMaster> mjw- I see, thanks for your help.
[04:08] <PKdoR> is it even install?
[04:08] <pawan> any audio conversion utiltiy
[04:09] <FourX4Luvn> chrisb_: Have you burned the CD yet?
[04:09] <chrisb_> not yet
[04:09] <MrPiracy> FourX4Luvn: you cant view someone's cam either
[04:09] <Starnestommy> PKdoR: if that was the only command you ran on it, it isn't installed
[04:09] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb use a server cd or a ubuntu dvd. both have server install options. i would use server cd because it has the install LAMP optoin which qiuckly sets it up
[04:09] <mjw-> BagelMaster the only other thing I can suggest is DefaultDepth 8  ....but then you're going to end up with only 256 colors :/
[04:09] <chrisb_> i'm in the process of making the cd
[04:09] <PKdoR> Starnestommy, so I just extracted i?
[04:09] <FourX4Luvn> chrisb_: Well.. y ou just need to download the iso, burn it to a CD, put the CD in the drive, and reboot your computer.  As long as your BIOS is set to boot from a CD drive, it will find it and start the install
[04:09] <Starnestommy> PKdoR: looks like it
[04:10] <chrisb_> ok
[04:10] <PKdoR> ok
[04:10] <rhineheart_m> natlinuxnewb: I have CD actually... But m asking if it would be possible to use another PC in the LAN that has CD drive shared over the network...
[04:10] <chrisb_> i've got a server with multiple hard drives, will the cd be able to handle that?
[04:10] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: Yes, if that other computer has an ftp server running on it, you could do an ftp install that way.
[04:10] <jordanjay29> Ok, I think I found a guide here: http://myunko.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/vmware-mouse-scroll-on-ubuntu/ What do I need to do to reload the x config? Just reboot, or do I need to input any commands?
[04:10] <PKdoR> Starnestommy, I guess I have to go make install route then
[04:10] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ yes. do you want to make them all one partion? do any raid?
[04:10] <rhineheart_m> natlinuxnewb: I found it tasking if m going to open the box again and after the installation process...remove it again
[04:10] <DKDTA> Hi all
[04:11] <CoastonCute> Hell
[04:11] <chrisb_> i'm going to set up raid
[04:11] <CoastonCute> Hello*
[04:11] <rhineheart_m> FourX4Luvn: Can I use filezilla server?
[04:11] <CoastonCute> Too tired for Computers. >.>
[04:11] <chrisb_> and they're both 18GB
[04:11] <DKDTA> If i install Ubuntu and have it partition an existing drive with Windows, will I be able to access my Windows files?
[04:11] <^rumput_kering^> good morning all
[04:11] <jordanjay29> DKDTA, I think if they're FAT, then yes
[04:11] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: Should be able to.  Shouldn't matter what the server is, so long as you configure the server to allow access to the cdrom drive.
[04:11] <fancy> I've a problem with viewing my .pdf files..i opened a magazine but some of the pages are black...
[04:11] <fancy> any good pdf viewer  ?
[04:12] <FourX4Luvn> rhineheart_m: Then, on the computer you're installing the OS onto, select ftp install and point it to the ftp server
[04:12] <DKDTA> Jordanjay29: what if it's NTFS?
[04:12] <ethan961> fancy, okular and evince
[04:12] <rhineheart_m> okay..so how would I configure the box to do the installation through ftp?
[04:12] <PKdoR> chrisb_, You'll have fun with that
[04:12] <fancy> ethan961, evince is what i have..but there are problems :P
[04:12] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ hardware raid is best, but if you're installing this on a non-server computer (you dont have a RAID controller), you should beable to set it up in custom partitioning. I've only messed with LVM myself. It's not fault-tolerant but it groups harddrives together.
[04:12] <chrisb_> with the raid, or the whole install?
[04:13] <jordanjay29> (DKDTA): http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows Might help you
[04:13] <PKdoR> chrisb_, with raid
[04:13] <notyeta> hey, all, i have 2G physical memory, should set the swap size to 4G?
[04:13] <PKdoR> chrisb_, What raid are you using?
[04:13] <KlrSp1> notyeta: nah... try 512m
[04:13] <notyeta> why 512M?
[04:13] <KlrSp1> notyeta: the point of that much ram is to hopefully never touch swap
[04:14] <DKDTA> Does anyone know if I can use Ubuntu to help recover files from my broken Windows harddrive? I want to try doing this with the Ubuntu boot disk
[04:14] <DaZ>  imo at this amount of memory, swap partition is useless
[04:14] <Starnestommy> notyeta: 1GB to 4GB of swap should be fine
[04:14] <chrisb_> i'm not sure yet
[04:14] <notyeta> the offical say that the swap size should 2*your physical memory
[04:14] <avis> notyeta, i would do 4GB myself
[04:14] <astro76> notyeta: that's a myth
[04:14] <natlinuxnewb> rhineheart_m you can try this http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[04:14] <DKDTA> jordanjay29: ok checking it out
[04:14] <danbhfive> notyeta: that's an old windows thing
[04:14] <KlrSp1> for smaller ammounts of ram it's not a bad practice
[04:14] <astro76> notyeta: 512 to 1gb is a good recommendation
[04:14] <AtomicSpark> @notyeta 32 bit operating systems cant use more then 2gb swap
[04:15] <astro76> notyeta: unless you want to hibernate, then make it same size as ram
[04:15] <chrisb_> i can
[04:15] <KlrSp1> < 1024m maybe
[04:15] <viktor> can someone help me install a tar.gz program i downloaded
[04:15] <KlrSp1> astro76: good point
[04:15] <pawan> any software to convert audio format
[04:15] <masterloki> i'm new to ubuntu and I need to change the permission of my user so I can read and write to my extra hd I know that I can use chmod but with do i use along with that so i can have read and write to use the hd's
[04:15] <chrisb_> i can't tell if it's hardware or not yet, but i'm thinking about a raid 1 config
[04:15] <natlinuxnewb> rhineheart_m you can try this http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[04:15] <PKdoR> chrisb_, Raid 0-1-01-10-5
[04:15] <notyeta> okay, i will give it 1G
[04:15] <jordanjay29> IF the xorg.conf file is edited, what needs to be done to make it effective? Simple reboot?
[04:15] <danbhfive> notyeta: I have 2g ram, and the swap NEVER gets used
[04:15] <chrisb_> raid 1 probably
[04:15] <jordanjay29> (viktor): extract it
[04:15] <DaZ> viktor: ./configure && make && make install :F
[04:15] <danbhfive> notyeta: I just have it incase hibernation works someday
[04:15] <jordanjay29> or what Daz said
[04:15] <mjw-> BagelMaster are you still there
[04:16] <KlrSp1> danbhfive: yeah here at home i have 2g, and at work i have 4g and in neither do i ever use swap
[04:16] <BagelMaster> mjw- Yes
[04:16] <chrisb_> if i get to using most of the space, i'd like to have the backup ability
[04:16] <AtomicSpark> hibernation works in vista *hides*
[04:16] <viktor> what do i put after :
[04:16] <viktor> the name of folder
[04:17] <notyeta> i have 40G free disk space, my methods is: / 33g /home 5G swap 1G /boot 200M is it reasonable?
[04:17] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ raid 1 only mirrors the drive. you wont have more space.
[04:17] <FourX4Luvn> hibernation works in ubuntu too.. who said it doesn't?
[04:17] <mjw-> BagelMaster in that thread I linked to you, you might try some of the additional options he recommends adding to the driver section
[04:17] <astro76> notyeta: way too much in / if you have a /home
[04:17] <natlinuxnewb> Can anyone answer what I asked when i logged on?
[04:17] <DaZ> notyeta: why so much on / partition?
[04:17] <BagelMaster> mjw- Yea, I was just considering that
[04:17] <nickrud> notechyet: / 10 swap 1gb rest home
[04:17] <natlinuxnewb> I have just installed 7.10. Why does my monitor say "64k / 60Hz Frequency is out of range" then it carries on loading and the startup freezes (or seems to freeze - I can still hear the HD spinning) at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)"?
[04:17] <danbhfive> notyeta: / only needs like 10g,
[04:17] <AtomicSpark> @FourX4Luvn i ment sleepmode :| my laptop went into a coma last time i tried it.
[04:18] <danbhfive> notyeta: what nickrud said
[04:18] <FourX4Luvn> Oh.. yes.. suspend on some systems can be tricky.  It suspends just fine.. but sometimes won't wake up
[04:18] <masterloki> i'm new to ubuntu and I need to change the permission of my user so I can read and write to my extra hd I know that I can use chmod but with do i use along with that so i can have read and write to use the hd'sthe drives are formated to ext3 on both
[04:18] <notyeta> i only need 3 part, one is / and swap and /boot
[04:18] <notyeta> the size is/ 40G swap 2G /boot 200M
[04:18] <nickrud> notyeta: you don't need /boot , and separating home is a good idea
[04:19] <mjw-> BagelMaster ignore anything he says regarding mach64 files, modules in the first post....the M3 is not mach64 based
[04:19] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark  i know, but i don't think i'll need both drives for now, but i'd like to make sure i have a backup if something goes down
[04:19] <notyeta> ur...i should have a try
[04:20] <notyeta> but i think all part in a subarea of /
[04:20] <mjw-> BagelMaster that 1400x1050 screen must have been quite the premium option back when that laptop was purchased though
[04:20] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ its a good way to keep your system running. just remember it only prevents harddrive failure. not against viruses (ha), deleted files, or basically any software failure.
[04:20] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ the only real solution is backups!
[04:20] <nickrud> notyeta: the /boot and /home would be, but having /home separate is useful for using it with other installs, or for backups, or reinstalls
[04:20] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark  true that\
[04:20] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ whats this server for? just learning linux?
[04:20] <xinx> hey how can I give permissions to a folder can someone help me please?
[04:21] <BagelMaster> mjw- lol, I got it for free when an accounting firm in town packed up
[04:21] <evil> .rizon.net
[04:21] <nickrud> xinx: depends, either chmod or chown
[04:21] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark  it may end up as a web server, but for now it's just something to play with
[04:21] <mjw-> BagelMaster it must date from what, 2001? must have cost a fortune then ;)
[04:21] <notyeta> thanks, i am confused
[04:21] <xinx> chown
[04:21] <natlinuxnewb> xinx: tried right click in root nautilus?
[04:21] <xinx> for owner
[04:21] <xinx> right?
[04:21] <nickrud> xinx: yes
[04:21] <xinx> yes
[04:21] <xinx> chown
[04:21] <FloodBot1> xinx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:22] <co_kenter_fs> ghjghj
[04:22] <xinx> but I dont know how does it works :/
[04:22] <FourX4Luvn> chrisb_: AtomicSpark is right.  If it were me.. personally, I wouldn't do raid.. I'd just keep one drive for backups and implement a good backup plan.. One where you can have a few versions around just in case (for the accidentally deleted file, etc as AtomicSpark mentioned)
[04:22] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ i would use the LAMP option. i have had troubles getting mysql to work on other distros post-installation.
[04:22] <xinx> I want to write
[04:22] <benanzo> I'm considering a PS3 as a MythBuntu frontend
[04:22] <nickrud> notyeta: then do   / 10gb , 2xram to 2gb for swap, and the rest for /home . A very standard partitioning
[04:22] <BagelMaster> mjw- 2002 I believe, with all the insider trading and other back room schemes the firm was doing, I wouldn't doubt they outfitted themselves with the most expensive at the time
[04:22] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark   what exactly is the LAMP option?
[04:22] <not_guilty> hi folks
[04:22] <benanzo> I need WPA2 wifi, remote control, USB disk access, s-video out, and stereo sound
[04:22] <benanzo> will all this work?
[04:22] <notyeta> okay, thanks, need i have the swap part?
[04:22] <mjw-> BagelMaster sadly they didn't get a laptop that could do direct rendering in linux in 2008 with a screen of that resolution ;)
[04:23] <natlinuxnewb> I have just installed 7.10. Why does the startup freeze (or seems to freeze - I can still hear the HD spinning) at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)"?
[04:23] <BagelMaster> mjw- I actually chuckled out loud at that one.
[04:23] <nickrud> notyeta: it doesn't hurt, it's used to hold running programs that aren't in use.
[04:23] <FourX4Luvn> chrisb_: Then have a look at http://www.debianadmin.com/backup-and-restore-your-ubuntu-system-using-sbackup.html for a pretty cool little gui app for setting up backups
[04:23] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ its ubuntu's famous "15 min LAMP install" or something. LAMP stands for linux apache mysql and php. it sopposed to install all 4 and have them configured properly to prevent problems by doing it manually
[04:23] <chrisb_> @FourX4Luvn  if it doesn't already have a RAID card in it, i probably won't set up RAID, and i'll save some processor time
[04:23] <notyeta> sorry, where is the boot part?
[04:23] <nickrud> notyeta: leaving more actual memory for programs you are using. Speeds up the machine, lets you run more stuff
[04:24] <nickrud> notyeta: you don't need /boot , it will be on /
[04:24] <mjw-> BagelMaster it appears that the M3 is just underpowered for it.. :/
[04:24] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark    ok, I'll definitely check into that
[04:24] <DaZ> xinx: chmod o+w -R should give write premission for an owner to every file in the folder
[04:24] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ raid controllers are independent of cpu. thats why they're big and cost a lot of money. :P
[04:24] <xinx> ty :)
[04:24] <balzac> hello
[04:24] <mjw-> BagelMaster i suspect that's at least 50% the cause of the skipping, possibly coupled with the...uh...not-so-goodness of the ESS chipsets back in the day
[04:24] <balzac> I have a problem
[04:24] <FourX4Luvn> chrisb_: I've performed the LAMP install a couple times, and AtomicSpark is right.. it's a breeze to install.  Does take longer than 15 minutes, on my hardware anyway.. but it's still a nice install method.
[04:24] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark  i've installed Apache MySql and PHP on other systems before, is there some incompatability with ubuntu?
[04:24] <nickrud> notyeta: back when, you had to have the kernel at the beginning of the drive, that's why people would use a separate /boot. Not necessary any more
[04:25] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ now the onboard "controller" found on most motherboards will use a cpu time i think but we're comparing personal computers to servers now.
[04:25] <notyeta> ur... it's /10G swap 4G /home 26G
[04:25] <xinx> root@exos2:/home/jose# chmod o+w -R
[04:25] <xinx> chmod: missing operand after `o+w'
[04:25] <xinx> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[04:25] <xinx> >.>
[04:25] <BagelMaster> mjw- No worries, I'll be getting a system76 notebook come summer
[04:25] <xinx> didnt work
[04:25] <balzac> when i'm typing, my computer has little momentary lapses in which key-strokes are not registered.
[04:25] <FloodBot1> xinx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <notyeta> okay, is it reasonable?
[04:25] <nickrud> notyeta: up to 2 gb for swap is plenty
[04:25] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ not that i know of. just supposed to make it easier.
[04:25] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark   i'm not sure they'd eat as much time as a software raid
[04:25] <Starnestommy> xinx: chmod -R o+w /directory
[04:25] <nickrud> notyeta: otherwise it's a good layout
[04:25] <xinx> oh sorry
[04:25] <xinx> XD
[04:25] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark  i'm all for easier
[04:25] <balzac> All my keys work, but there are moments in which keystrokes won't be registered.
[04:26] <xinx> thank you it worked :D
[04:26] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ software raid is a joke. maybe MAYBE to make your harddrive bigger. if you lose your OS, you lose everything.
[04:26] <notyeta> ur..that's /10G swap 2G /home 28G right?
[04:26] <nickrud> notyeta: that's a good layout
[04:26] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark   which is why i wouldn't use it
[04:26] <FourX4Luvn> AtomicSpark: Use LVM if all you want to do is create a larger drive :)  You have the flexibility of dynamically resizing the virtual volume that way too
[04:26] <notyeta> okay, i will have a try, thanks
[04:27] <xinx> hey does anyone knows why everytime I type this  root@exos2:/home/jose# iphone-mount
[04:27] <xinx> Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again.
[04:27] <xinx> doesnt work?
[04:27] <nickrud> xinx:   sudo adduser username fuse , log out and back in
[04:27] <xinx> k ty
[04:27] <FourX4Luvn> xinx: Your answer was included in your question..
[04:27] <mjw-> BagelMaster thankfully the C510 I inherited came with a Radeon Mobility M6...but not the 1400x1050 screen ;)
[04:27] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ my server is currently running CentOS 5, I'm considering changing to Ubuntu Server because things just work in Ubuntu. Configuring repos and priorities in Yum just takes too much time. (and I can't get MySQL to work.)
[04:28] <xinx> hehe
[04:28] <xinx> im new with ubuntu :p
[04:28] <FourX4Luvn> xinx: No worries :)
[04:28] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark   i will agree that ubuntu just works
[04:28] <AtomicSpark> i've had ubuntu for maybe a month now. i'm impressed so far.
[04:28] <AtomicSpark> it actully worked on my laptop.
[04:28] <chrisb_> Does anyone know what kind of Radeon drivers ubuntu has?
[04:29] <mjw-> chrisb_ what kind of radeon do you have
[04:29] <AtomicSpark> mm i'm using the restricted drivers right now.
[04:29] <FourX4Luvn> heh, AtomicSpark that's the same reason I converted.  Was the first distro I'd tried on my laptop that actually worked without a bunch of tweaking.
[04:29] <nickrud> amazing, wasn't it. I was floored, installed, rebooted, everything but wireless Works for Me™
[04:29] <AtomicSpark> havent gamed on it but it runs the Compiz packages well. :P
[04:29] <xinx> do you mean by logout and login again is logout of the Terminal or logout of the system?
[04:29] <PKdoR> is there a gui for 7z?
[04:29] <FourX4Luvn> xinx: the system
[04:29] <xinx> k
[04:29] <xinx> brb ty
[04:29] <nickrud> xinx: logout of the gui.
[04:29] <mjw-> chrisb_ if you're in linux, paste the result of   lspci | grep -i vga
[04:30] <FourX4Luvn> PKdoR: file roller has a plugin to support 7z
[04:30] <chrisb_> @mjw-   ok, one moment, i'm in ubuntu now
[04:30] <AtomicSpark> @PKdoR no. only 7z for linux is p7z which is command line only.
[04:30] <Pkunk> you can always use wine if you want the GUI
[04:31] <PKdoR> FourX4Luvn, how would I go about insalling his plugging?
[04:31] <nickrud> AtomicSpark: fileroller will use p7zip if it's installed
[04:31] <chrisb_> @mjw-  here's what i got:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 9505
[04:31] <Pkunk> the 7z gui was pretty shitty the last time i used it though
[04:31] <nickrud> AtomicSpark: or p7zip-full, I forget which
[04:31] <bazhang> langugae Pkunk
[04:31] <FourX4Luvn> PKdoR: What nickrud just said.. install p7zip and then fire up file-roller
[04:32] <AtomicSpark> @nickrud p7zip-full and the rar option :) it will get you set right.
[04:32] <mjw-> chrisb_ is this a new computer?
[04:32] <chrisb_> @mjw-   yes, yes it is
[04:32] <AtomicSpark> @nickrud rar is needed for all the people who keep loving it for some reason.
[04:32] <nickrud> AtomicSpark: ug.
[04:32] <mjw-> chrisb_ ah, you'll have to use the proprietary ati driver for sure then
[04:32] <chrisb_> @mjw-    how would i go about doing that?
[04:32] <FourX4Luvn> AtomicSpark: The rar love is from the windows world.  One of the best, halfway widely supported compression algorithms
[04:33] <AtomicSpark> @ FourX7Luvn I push 7z as much as I can in the windows world. ;)
[04:33] <chrisb_> @mjw-    my graphics are ok, except a certain points when ubuntu is loading, and i don't have 3D acceleration
[04:33] <FourX4Luvn> AtomicSpark: Push bzip2 instead :)
[04:33]  * nickrud thinks rar ~= pirated
[04:33] <FourX4Luvn> AtomicSpark: Even better than 7z for compression ratios
[04:33] <ElMasInexpertos> hi all! I have just intalled Ubuntu 7.10 on a laptop, but the Operating system does not have all the drivers for the hardware (the scren or video card, for example). How can I say to system that it must search new drivers on line?
[04:33] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ you might have it if you install xgl i needed that package to get it to work.
[04:34] <FourX4Luvn> AtomicSpark: And of course, it's more widely supported for us ;-)
[04:34] <mjw-> chrisb_ yeah, you'll need the so-called 'fglrx' driver to get that going - were you prompted by the restricted drivers manager?
[04:34] <bazhang> ElMasInexpertos: what card
[04:34] <AtomicSpark> @FourX4Luvn well I use it now. :P
[04:34] <amenado> ElMasInexpertos-> you did not try the liveCD first to see how it looks and feel?
[04:35] <rkj> hello, I have a question - I have an ubuntu 7.10 system that I use with gnome.  A week ago somebody suggested I install the kde-desktop package and then I could use either one by just selecting an option at login.  I did that and discovered I really like kde; but when I went back to gnome, all my desktop icons had disappeared, and my keyboard didn't work. A system reboot fixed it, but I'm wondering if any of you wizards might know why.
[04:35] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[04:35] <chrisb_> @mjw-    no
[04:35] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ then use synaptic package manager to find xserver-xgl just search for xgl and you'll find it
[04:35] <bazhang> rkj you mean the kubuntu-desktop package?
[04:35] <ElMasInexpertos> Yes amenado, I tried it, but I was thinking that maybe I could upgrade the hardware after the installation
[04:35] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ logout and log in and everything should work.
[04:35] <rkj> bazhang yes, from synaptic package manager
[04:36] <mjw-> chrisb_ you may want to hunt around the ubuntu forums...you'd have to install the ATI driver from their website to get acceleration going for sure.
[04:36] <rkj> bazhang it changed my splash page to say kubuntu
[04:36] <bazhang> rkj what splash screen loads kubuntu?
[04:36] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ restricted driver @ xgl package will get 3d acceleration working for you
[04:36] <amenado> ElMasInexpertos-> you can try to upgrade, just do  apt-get upgrade
[04:36] <EchoBinary> is there a how-to on installing xen as a Dom0 on a ubuntu (xubuntu)  desktop environment? all the tutorials assume a server environment...
[04:37] <EchoBinary> ..that i have found, anywyas
[04:37] <mjw-> AtomicSpark his card is so recent the restricted driver manager's version of it may even be too old - he wasn't prompted by it
[04:37] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark   i have the restricted driver program loaded already, just not the xgl package
[04:37] <nickrud> chrisb_: if you have to use the driver from the ati wesite (that is, if AtomicSpark's advice doesn't work because it's a really new card) http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide is good
[04:37] <rkj> bazhang I get the same splash screen either way, but it's probably not important
[04:37] <chrisb_> @nickrud  thanks
[04:38] <AtomicSpark> @echobinary i recommend  KVM/QEMU for client messingsaround with virtual machines
[04:38] <bazhang> rkj you want pure gnome, pure kde or a mix of both using some apps from each
[04:38] <AtomicSpark> @echobinary https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM it will be installed by default in next release of ubuntu
[04:38] <EchoBinary> AtomicSpark: what makes it more advisable than Xen?
[04:38] <ElMasInexpertos> amenado: I did it and nothing changed
[04:40] <AtomicSpark> @ EchoBinary Xen and VMware are hypervisors. they take over your host os and run everything on top of it. KVM is included in the linux binary and gives direct access to the hardware. it lets your guest os control resources of the VM
[04:40] <mjw-> chrisb_ ah, in that case, the xgl-server package would help
[04:40] <amenado> ElMasInexpertos-> nothing changed? nothing was downloaded?
[04:41] <eltux> does anyone know a way to have side button functionality on their mouse in Ubuntu?
[04:41] <AtomicSpark> @chrisb_ it's xserver-xgl, i just checked :D
[04:41] <eltux> i miss it
[04:41] <jordan> can i add the server features to the desktop version?
[04:41] <amenado> jordan yes, which feature are you after to serve?
[04:41] <AtomicSpark> @ jordan. yes. just add the packages you want via the synaptic package manager.
[04:41] <nickrud> chrisb_: before you install the xserver-xgl, run   fglrxinfo  and make sure it's using the ati 8.37.6 driver , and run  glxinfo | grep direct to make sure you have direct rendering
[04:41] <bazhang> jordan you mean have a server but with a gui?
[04:41] <ElMasInexpertos> amenado: There were many files downloaded, but the drivers were not updated....
[04:41] <EchoBinary> AtomicSpark: is there a performance difference?
[04:42] <chrisb_> @nickrud ok
[04:42] <nickrud> jordan: absolutely
[04:42] <jordan> no. i mean have a gui with server features
[04:42] <FourX4Luvn> eltux: do a search for zaxismapping on google.  Lots of information out there to help you.
[04:42] <rkj> bazhang I guess I could choose one or the other and stick with it, but it would be nice to just be able to switch back and forth
[04:42] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark  i found the ATI drivers package  (xgl)
[04:42] <amenado> ElMasInexpertos-> maybe it have, which directory where you looking at for the drivers?
[04:42] <jordan> i have ubuntu desktop installed and i want to add the server features on top of it
[04:42] <eltux> FourX4Luvin: I have btnx installed for my mouse but it aint working quite right
[04:42] <bazhang> rkj so you want a pure gnome and a pure kde side by side, or like the mix
[04:42] <AtomicSpark> @ echobinary kvm is relatively new. i am not sure which is "faster" now. I never used Xen since KVM is preferred by ubuntu.
[04:42] <Snurglewozzle> Question: I'm having big problems after trying Xubuntu (bad idea) and then trying to remove it and return to "straight" Ubuntu.  Can I simply reinsall Ubuntu and NOT lose 30gb or so worth of movie files I've copied onto this server?
[04:43] <jordan> like apache and stuff
[04:43] <nickrud> jordan: I run apache, mysql, ssh server on my laptop
[04:43] <rkj> bazhang there are definitely some nice apps that come with kde and I now have access to them in gnome
[04:44] <ElMasInexpertos> amenado: I just used apt-get upgrade and also I reboot the system...
[04:44] <ElMasInexpertos> I did not do more
[04:44] <eltux> FourX4Luvn: I have an MX Revolution and it seems like I've been down this road before
[04:44] <FourX4Luvn> jordan: 'sudo apt-get install apache2
[04:44] <AtomicSpark> @ echobinary here is a random performance thing i found. of course i never trust these things. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=623&num=1
[04:44] <Smegzor> I set Nautilus to preview sounds, but it only ever did that when my Ubuntu was new.  Why would that feature not work anymore?
[04:44] <NemesisD> anyone happen to know what the ubuntu background manager does with wallpapers? does it copy them somewhere? is there some sort of flat file that stores their settings?
[04:44] <Zeddie> Snurglewozzle: have you got your media files on another partition?
[04:44] <tanath> when i click the show desktop button with compiz running, it shunts the windows out of the way instead of minimizing them. how do i fix that?
[04:44] <Snurglewozzle> Zeddie: no
[04:44] <AtomicSpark> @ echobinary here is a comparison http://www.gridvm.org/xen-vs-kvm.html
[04:44] <Zeddie> Snurglewozzle: if you don't then you might want to look into splitting your existing partition :)
[04:45] <bazhang> tanath in the ccsm plugins
[04:45] <Snurglewozzle> GOOD idea, zeddie
[04:45] <tanath> bazhang, i've been looking
[04:45] <nickrud> NemesisD: it creates and tracks pointers to the files, it doesn't copy them anywhere. If you move the picture, the wallpaper handler won't be able to find it
[04:45] <notyeta> i met the problem again, should i set the /home to extend part or primary part?
[04:45] <amenado> ElMasInexpertos-> which driver are you looking for exactly?
[04:45] <Zeddie> Snurglewozzle: i think it's parted that does it but I could be wrong :)
[04:45] <NemesisD> nickrud, well thats silly...
[04:45] <bazhang> tanath they disappear? completely gone?
[04:45] <amenado> notyeta  it does not matter, your choice
[04:45] <FourX4Luvn> eltux: Perhaps look here then?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2727025
[04:46] <Snurglewozzle> I just wish I could do a "repair" installation of ubuntu...  isn't that possible?
[04:46] <nickrud> notyeta: you create an extended, then a logical inside the extended. That's the one that would be /home
[04:46] <ElMasInexpertos> amenado: wifi card (i'm searching the exact name of it)
[04:46] <AtomicSpark> man ubuntu 8.04 alpha 4 takes forever to install in kvm
[04:46] <tanath> bazhang, i have most effects and stuff turned off. i can't find what's doing this. i haven't enabled it deliberately, and it didn't always do this
[04:46] <Zeddie> Snurglewozzle: hmm good question
[04:46] <nickrud> NemesisD: not really, it allows you to use pictures from anywhere almost
[04:46] <tanath> bazhang, it just pushes them off the screen
[04:46] <notyeta> that's say the /home should be extended part?
[04:46] <eltux> FourX4Luvn: I already have it and I'm lost with it
[04:46] <amenado> ElMasInexpertos-> did it work while on the liveCD ?
[04:46] <Zeddie> Snurglewozzle: kinda like a dist-upgrade?
[04:46] <Smegzor> hmm..  maybe it was kde that had that feature?  oh well..
[04:46] <Snurglewozzle> yeah
[04:46] <bazhang> tanath still not clear on what the issue is--they windows are gone and closed, or just cant locate them
[04:46] <nickrud> notyeta: it would be the logical partition. Create an exented, then a logical.
[04:46] <sin|g|_> \join #programming
[04:47] <Zeddie> I'm not quite sure how you'd do that across branches
[04:47] <NemesisD> i guess
[04:47] <jordan> ty
[04:47] <Snurglewozzle> You know, just fix the startup problems
[04:47] <FourX4Luvn> eltux: Ok, well I'm afraid I can't help you then.  I don't have side buttons anymore even.  (My mouse died! *sniff*)
[04:47] <Snurglewozzle> I can't get past the initial screens without hitting "OK"
[04:47] <notyeta> okay
[04:47] <nickrud> notyeta: the extended partition is a trick to let you have more than 4 partitions
[04:47] <Snurglewozzle> man, DO NOT install xubuntu, by the way. impossible to get back out of it without major problems.
[04:47] <Snurglewozzle> no exec line in the session file
[04:47] <notyeta> if i create another part such as /work, should i set it to extended?
[04:47] <nickrud> !mouse | eltux
[04:47] <ubotu> eltux: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:47] <eltux> FourX4Luvn: Yeah, its a feature I can't live without, sorry to hear about your mouse man. Thanks for your help
[04:47] <Snurglewozzle> no exec line in the session file: xcfe 4
[04:47] <tanath> bazhang, the issue is, they windows should be minimized. it causes issues sometimes... i don't want it to move them, i want it to revert to the original behaviour of minimizing them
[04:48] <Snurglewozzle> how can I find the session file to remove that line from?
[04:48] <bazhang> tanath so you want non-compiz behaviour with compiz?
[04:48] <AtomicSpark> @ Snurglewozzle Ironic. The guy who pushed me to linux swares by KDE.
[04:48] <tanath> bazhang, i've had a couple minor issues because of it
[04:48] <amenado> notyeta  it does not matter, your choice
[04:48] <eltux> nickrud: been down that road, its a MX Revolution, already have btnx installed but not too sure how to configure it. Lost right now :D
[04:48] <notyeta> okay, thanks a lot.
[04:48] <bazhang> tanath what issues--this sounds more of an annoyance than anything
[04:49] <ElMasInexpertos> amenado: no, I didn't but i imagine it can be downloaded and installed from here. it's: AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[04:49] <nickrud> eltux: ah, one of those. I haven't played with it, don't have one
[04:49] <Snurglewozzle> kde might be ok, but xubuntu doesn't install cleanly on top of ubuntu
[04:49] <tanath> bazhang, uh, AFAICT every effect has been customizable or easily disabled in compiz. i just can't find this one
[04:49] <eltux> nickrud: I'm totally lost xD
[04:49] <Snurglewozzle> how can I find the session file to remove a trouble-making line?
[04:49] <Snurglewozzle> the error I get on startup is: "no exec line in the session file"
[04:49] <FourX4Luvn> eltux: Another thought.. dunno if it would work for you or not.. The side buttons only work in firefox even when they do work, isn't that right?
[04:49] <bazhang> tanath what is the effect; I will try it
[04:49] <Snurglewozzle> no exec line in the session file: xfce 4
[04:49] <tanath> bazhang, it was more of an annoyance. but do you know how to change this behaviour or not?
[04:49] <nickrud> Snurglewozzle: it's probably in ~/.xfce4 (?)
[04:50] <tanath> bazhang, click the show desktop button
[04:50] <nickrud> Snurglewozzle: that's a directory, look for the session file in there
[04:50] <eltux> nickrud: they don't work at all, I would be happy with basic firefox useage
[04:50] <Snurglewozzle> hmm
[04:50] <bazhang> tanath I just offered to try it; you dont want help after all?
[04:50] <jimmygoon> So if I want the global_menu like the mac menu hack... do I want the code loaded from google_code repos? or should I actually follow the ubuntu wiki?
[04:50] <rainwalker> tanath: what are you trying to do?
[04:50] <amenado> ElMasInexpertos-> look around /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[04:50] <AtomicSpark> @Snurglewozzle: Do you think KDE didn't install properly? Did you log into a KDE session?
[04:50] <Snurglewozzle> and what do I do -- remove the session file altogether?
[04:50] <Snurglewozzle> I'm trying to boot into gnome now so why is taht xfce4 even in there?
[04:50] <tanath> rainwalker, when clicking show desktop with compiz, it has started to shunt the windows off the screen instead of minimizing them. i want to return it to the original behaviour
[04:51] <nickrud> Snurglewozzle: on the gui login screen, select options->session
[04:51] <FourX4Luvn> eltux: You could install mouse gesture firefox extension.. it supports something called 'button rocking' or somesuch.. You can go back by clicking right mouse button, left mouse button in quick succession... reverse the procedure for going forward.
[04:51] <AtomicSpark> @snugglewozzel i have compiz enabled w/ xserver-xgl it has a custom login session
[04:51] <rainwalker> tanath: I think that's the default compiz behavior
[04:51] <Snurglewozzle> hmm...  it's set to auto login
[04:51] <tanath> rainwalker, wasn't before, but regardless. how do i fix it?
[04:51] <nickrud> Snurglewozzle: there's your problem :)
[04:51] <bazhang> heh
[04:51] <FourX4Luvn> eltux: Not exactly what you want, but a little better than nothing.. It's what I settled on until I get money for another mouse with side buttons
[04:51] <eltux> FourX4Luvn: Kinda like in Opera, Hrm I'll look into it
[04:51] <Snurglewozzle> amoticspark: I installed xubuntu and then tried to uninstall it and now when I boot, I get the error described above and gnome default desktop launches
[04:52] <jack-desktop> snkmad, how do you get out of fullscreen mode in virtualbox?
[04:52] <nickrud> FourX4Luvn: that sounds like a seriously geeky hack
[04:52] <rainwalker> tanath: you mean it didn't do that before when using compiz? or when using metacity?
[04:52] <tanath> rainwalker, never used to before in compiz. metacity doesn't do that
[04:52] <FourX4Luvn> eltux: Yes.. exactly.  it also has mouse gestures, invoked with the right mouse button.. supports a ton of actions.. closing window, opening new one, reloading.. etc. etc.
[04:52] <Snurglewozzle> what's my problem, nickrud?
[04:52] <tanath> *that
[04:52] <kLownish> can anyone help with some nfs issues?
[04:53] <AtomicSpark> is there a official irc server url? i'm using irc.ubuntu.com.. it would be nice to have a server with only official rooms.
[04:53] <FourX4Luvn> nickrud: Hey.. I didn't write it.. I just think it's a good extension  heh ;-)
[04:53] <bazhang> rainwalker: tanath needs to specify the precise plugins he is using before we can resolve this
[04:53] <nickrud> Snurglewozzle: the login manager is trying to start the desktop you last used, which was xfce4. But, xfce4 is gone.  Log out, and at the gui options->session->gnome
[04:53] <tanath> bazhang, ok, gimme a min
[04:53] <Snurglewozzle> ah, nickrud
[04:53] <Snurglewozzle> good thought -- I just need to re-enable login
[04:53] <rainwalker> tanath: ah...well I never actually noticed that it did it differently, but I don't really use the show desktop thing much. I'll look around some and let you know if I figure anything out
[04:53] <nickrud> Snurglewozzle: just logging out should get you to the login iirc
[04:54] <jscinoz> Can it be confirmed that opengl performance with 8 series nvidia cards is currently lacking due to bad drivers (on all platforms, not just Linux)
[04:54] <kLownish> im attempting to mount my western digital netcenter, and everytime i try, i get a permission denied..
[04:54] <MrPiracy> nickrud: do you have any idea of how i could manually adjust my keyboard layout to use ç instead of ć when i type ' + c?
[04:54] <tanath> bazhang, rainwalker aha, i found it. not sure how i missed it: the show desktop plugin
[04:55] <bazhang> jscinoz: many complaints, esp with the 8800
[04:55] <JohnRobert> is anyone aware of a bug with wine on ubuntu resulting in no sound? I've got a fresh install of ubuntu 7.10, all sound works apart from in wine (winecfg sound test only seems to work on oss too)
[04:55] <FourX4Luvn> kLownish: Try running mount as root?  'sudo mount /dev/whatever /mount/point'
[04:55] <tanath> bazhang, i feel silly now. i looked through them twice, but missed it both times
[04:55] <nickrud> MrPiracy: not a clue, I'm a clueless english only user, never needed any language settings
[04:55] <rainwalker> tanath: yeah I already looked, it doesn't let you change how it hides the windows
[04:55] <JohnRobert> I'm thinking it's something to do with this new pulseaudio thing
[04:55] <bazhang> tanath haha nice work finding them
[04:55] <Snurglewozzle> trying now, nickrud...  wish me luck!
[04:55] <tanath> rainwalker, just turn it off :)
[04:55] <MrPiracy> nickrud: ok, thx
[04:55] <rainwalker> tanath: ah! hadn't thought of that
[04:55] <jscinoz> bazhang, im using an 8400M GS (not the best, but its decent) and it struggles to run sauerbraten at more than 10fps
[04:55] <killux> hey, how do you resize the gnome-panel width?
[04:55] <tanath> rainwalker, i have most plugins off. many are unstable
[04:56] <Snurglewozzle> I think it's working, nickrud!
[04:56] <tanath> rainwalker, or useless to me
[04:56] <jscinoz> bazhang, of all the games i've tried, urbanterror (which i'm trying to get into hardy+1) runs the best at 125fps.
[04:56] <ctex> killux - Right click, properties I think
[04:56] <kLownish> i tried.  sudo mount -t nfs -o rw <IP_ADDRESS>:/shares/Main/mp3 /media/mp3
[04:56]  * Snurglewozzle beats chest, howls into the night sky.
[04:56] <tanath> rainwalker, so i'm used to turning them off :P
[04:56] <nickrud> killux: you got two choices: full width, and the width of the icons. Right click, properties
[04:56] <bazhang> jscinoz: the restricted drivers manager installed those cards or done manually from the site or 0ther (envy etc)
[04:56] <kLownish> and it keeps giving me the same error.
[04:56] <tanath> bazhang, rainwalker, thanks guys
[04:56] <jscinoz> bazhang, yes im using the driver providded by envy (much newer than the one in repo, and it seems faster)
[04:56] <nickrud> Snurglewozzle: good on ya!
[04:56] <Snurglewozzle> nickrud: I am now doing a full reboot (after changing login info) -- keep your fingers crossed
[04:56] <FourX4Luvn> kLownish: Oh!  it's a remote mount.  Have you checked your NFS exports on the host computer?
[04:56] <Snurglewozzle> this will save me a LOT of hassle
[04:56] <killux> nickrud, when i choose it in properties it expands the length of the panel, not the width
[04:57] <FourX4Luvn> kLownish: /etc/exports /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny
[04:57] <rainwalker> ahhh crap...how do you run a command in a terminal so that you can close the terminal and it will keep running?
[04:57] <nickrud> killux: by width, I mean screen width
[04:57] <bazhang> jscinoz: you do know this channel's thinking about that script I presume ;]
[04:57] <kLownish> fourX4luvn, its not a 'remote computer' its a network storage device.
[04:57] <PKdoR> what the difference between xarchive and xachiver?
[04:57] <nickrud> killux: oh, you mean height :)
[04:57] <amenado> kLownish-> also check no_root_squash from the nfs server
[04:57] <killux> nickrud, me too, i want the panel to expand across the screen more than it is
[04:57] <bazhang> the letter 'r'
[04:57] <killux> but not all the way
[04:58] <nickrud> killux: two choices only
[04:58] <FourX4Luvn> kLownish: Ahh.. Ok.. sorry I missed that if you said that already.  Well, does the NAS have a web admin or something like that, where you can control who has access to it?
[04:58] <Snurglewozzle> It worked, nickrud!  IT WORKED!  YES!
[04:58] <jscinoz> bazhang yes, i know, but the method by which i install the driver is mostly irrelevant now, the fact is, no matter which driver version, no matter how i install (apt-get, envy or nvidia package) my 3d performance is far to low for this hardware :(
[04:58] <harrumph> anybody know why parallels doesn't like the 7.10 cd?  installer just prompts to insert a cd, it's in there.  did i burn the right iso?
[04:58] <rainwalker> emerald just died on me...and for some reason now pressing alt + F2 won't bring up the run dialog...help?
[04:58]  * Snurglewozzle carries nickrud around #ubuntu, hooting and hollering, clapping and laughing
[04:58] <FY1> hello, I am trying to connect to my windows computer via ubuntu. ubuntu picks up the workgroup and the desktop (windows computer), but just loads
[04:58] <FY1> any ideas on how to get that working?
[04:59] <killux> nickrud?
[04:59] <FY1> !networking
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <kLownish> FourX4Luvn, it has a webadmin, but all it allows is nfs, or CIFS
[04:59] <linxuz3r> when is hardy heron gonna be released?
[04:59] <bazhang> jscinoz: that is odd; I have the 7300 and it runs fps games quite well
[04:59] <mjw-> !hardy > linxuz3r
[04:59] <AtomicSpark> @FY1: what are you trying to do? connect to a share?
[04:59] <nickrud> killux: that's just the way the panel works, either full width of the screen, or just big enough to hold all the contents. No fine control
[04:59] <FourX4Luvn> klownish1: Ok.. it doesn't offer an access control?
[04:59] <FY1> AtomicSpark: access the public folder on the computer
[04:59] <klownish> FourX4Luvn: no, not at all.
[04:59] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: For the NFS portion
[04:59] <jscinoz> bazhang, can you install sauerbraten from the official repos, and tell me what framerate you get?
[04:59] <killux> nickrud ok
[04:59] <amenado> whoa.. install  ubuntu-desktop  reinstall 384MB  including openoffice
[04:59] <Snurglewozzle> harrumph: I have a weird suggestion for you.  Something similar happened to me on the PC.  I burned a 7.10 DVD instead of CD and it worked.  Don't ask me why.
[04:59] <jscinoz> bazhang, i believe its quite small
[05:00] <FY1> but I get Sorry, could not display all the contents.......
[05:00] <Dr_willis> FY1,    You want Ubuntu to access a public share on the windows box? or windws tp access the ubuntu box?
[05:00] <jscinoz> bazhang, around 210mb
[05:00] <ElMasInexpertos> bazhang: sorry, i've just seen your message, it's a AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[05:00] <killux> nickrud i am also using awn, i like it but i dont like how the windows can go below it
[05:00] <bazhang> jscinoz: what command would I use to check the fps?
[05:00] <FY1> dr_willis, first option
[05:00] <rainwalker> bazhang do you know what I should do?
[05:00] <ElMasInexpertos> :)
[05:00] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Wow.. I would of thought they all would have some sort of ACL for security purposes.  Afraid I have no idea then, sorry.
[05:00] <killux> does anyone know a way if that can change
[05:00] <jscinoz> bazhang, shown by default at bottom right corner
[05:00] <bazhang> rainwalker: sorry missed your question
[05:00] <Snurglewozzle> I burned two or three 7.10 CDs but the friggin' computer refused to recognize them even though it DID recognize other CDs.  For some reason it allowed to be booted up by the DVD instead
[05:00] <nickrud> killux: yeah, it's still a work in progress. I set it to autohide, it kinda counters that behavior
[05:01] <AtomicSpark> FY1: Go to Places > Connect to server. Change to windows share. Add computer IP for server. share name for share. click OK.
[05:01] <zelrikriando> hi nickrud
[05:01] <bazhang> jscinoz: just a moment--sauerbraten right?
[05:01] <FY1> AtomicSpark: I will try that, thanks :)
[05:01] <killux> nickrud, awn is being developed actively?
[05:01] <nickrud> zelrikriando: how's the desktop? Found anything to do with it yet :)
[05:01] <jscinoz> bazhang yes, it should also install package sauerbraten-data
[05:01] <AtomicSpark> @Fy1 wait i forgot. dont forget the user name or it will try to use your ubuntu user!
[05:01] <harrumph> thx snurglewozzle
[05:01] <nickrud> killux: I do believe so
[05:01] <zelrikriando> ?
[05:01] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Wait.. that could be it.. Is it being exported as CIFS and not NFS perhaps?  have you tried to smbmount it?
[05:01] <harrumph> trying that
[05:01] <AtomicSpark> @FY1 it will prompt for password when you open the folder on desktop or in places
[05:01] <rainwalker> bazhang: emerald just died on me, and I need to restart it, I don't know how to run it from the terminal in a way that I can close the terminal and have it keep running, and for some reason my run dialog box doesn't show up with alt + F2
[05:01] <klownish> FourX4Luvn: it gives me the option for both
[05:02] <nickrud> zelrikriando: hm, might have mixed you up with someone else. I thought you said you were bored, everything was working
[05:02] <AtomicSpark> SSH FTW
[05:02] <chrisn> hi
[05:02] <klownish> FourX4Luvn: both of them are checked at the moment
[05:02] <mjw-> rainwalker emerald &
[05:02] <nickrud> rainwalker: alt-f2  emerald
[05:02] <ctex> whoa..You can use the classic dvorak keyboard layout in ubuntu...
[05:02] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Just for giggles, try to SMB mount it then.  Perhaps it uses some screwed up NFS protocol
[05:02] <chrisn> has anyone else had problems with flash completely freezing their system?
[05:02] <FY1> AtomicSpark: what do I put as share? the host name?
[05:02] <rainwalker> nickrud: alt + f2 isn't bringing up the run dialog
[05:02] <chrisn> ctrl-alt backspace doesn't even work
[05:02] <mjw-> FY1 the share name is something you specify on the windows machine
[05:03] <killux> nickrud do you know of anyway to just remove the last gnome panel
[05:03] <ctex> rainwalker - Are you sure you have the "f-lock" active if you have the Microsoft keyboard?
[05:03] <rainwalker> mjw-: it doesn't work
[05:03] <bazhang> rainwalker: what about the gui run command in the menu?
[05:03] <killux> i dont even need it
[05:03] <AtomicSpark> @FY1 no the share name. so like in windows you had \\computer\share put the ip address of computer as the server and the share as the share name!
[05:03] <mjw-> rainwalker define it doesn't work?
[05:03] <nickrud> rainwalker: hm, then in the terminal type   emerald &  ; disown <tab>  <-- press tab
[05:03] <AtomicSpark> @FY1 i say ip address because computer name might now work
[05:03] <rainwalker> bazhang: that's what I'm talking about, it won't come up
[05:03] <FY1> AtomicSpark: I got it to work without including a share name... thanks for your help :)
[05:03] <bazhang> jscinoz: installing will take a few...
[05:03] <FY1> I used the IP of it
[05:03] <FY1> thanks again
[05:03] <jscinoz> bazhang, sure i've got time to wait :P
[05:03] <klownish> FourX4Luvn: im kinda new to all this, mind giving me a quick runthrew of smb?
[05:03] <ctex> rainwalker - Do you have "f-lock" on your keyboard?
[05:04] <AtomicSpark> @FY1 you can also go to Places > Network and browse :P but i'm not sure that would work well with authentication.
[05:04] <rainwalker> ctex: I have the fn key, but I don't know what lock you're talking about
[05:04] <bazhang> rainwalker: otherwise append the ampersand to the back of the command
[05:04] <eltux> FourX4Luvn: YAY I GOT BTNX WORKIN! hehe
[05:04] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Hrm.. have to give me a minute then.. I dont' recall how to smbmount for sure
[05:04] <FY1> yeah, it didn't work too well :D... it would just timeout/load forever
[05:04] <FourX4Luvn> eltux: Congrats!  :)
[05:04] <rainwalker> nickrud, after pressing tab what do I do?
[05:04] <eltux> FourX4Luvn: I feel smart now hahah
[05:04] <chrisn> gah this is driving me nuts
[05:04] <mjw-> rainwalker using the ampersand (&) should keep the process running - even if the xterm is closed
[05:04] <AtomicSpark> FY1: lawl I can only see two computers on my network in that. fail.
[05:04] <Snurglewozzle> what is it chrisn
[05:04] <nickrud> rainwalker: you should see %emerald  , hit enter. Then you can close the terminal
[05:05] <rainwalker> mjw-: it doesn't...it's gnome-terminal, if that matters
[05:05] <Dr_willis> close the xterm with the 'exit' comand rainwalker  DONT just hit the close button
[05:05] <bazhang> chrisn what is your issue--what are you trying to do
[05:05] <AtomicSpark> linux NFS is so much better.
[05:05] <AtomicSpark> even windows to windows fails a lot. :|
[05:05] <AtomicSpark> SSH pawns all though.
[05:05] <mjw-> rainwalker maybe xfce4-terminal behaves differently...? I could swear i start commands in xterm all the time with & and close them and they keep running
[05:05] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-remote-windows-partition-windows-share-under-linux.html
[05:06] <rainwalker> Dr_willis: THANK YOU! that's what I was doing wrong
[05:06] <Dr_willis> rainwalker,  :)
[05:06] <Dr_willis> rainwalker,  common mistake.
[05:06] <chrisn> When I view flash websites in any browser, my whole computer freezes
[05:06] <rainwalker> mjw-: apparently I have to use the "exit" command to close it
[05:06] <chrisn> I am forced to do a hard reset
[05:06] <mjw-> rainwalker ah....yeah, i always use exit...probably why I've not encountered that problem :)
[05:06] <bazhang> chrisn just the one window or several tabs
[05:06] <BaconBits> kill/9?
[05:06] <rainwalker> nickrud: I have it fixed now, but what you were saying still didn't work...%emerald never showed up
[05:07] <chrisn> bazhang: both
[05:07] <AtomicSpark> mounting shares seems iffy. i would just stick with adding the share to your places :\
[05:07] <BaconBits> GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO.
[05:07] <rainwalker> wow, it's crazy how ugly my desktop looks without shadows...
[05:07] <FourX4Luvn> rainwalker: ctrl+d at the prompt works too, and saves you some keystrokes :)
[05:07] <BaconBits> GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO.
[05:07] <mjw-> !ot > BaconBits
[05:07] <bazhang> chrisn you have the newest non-free flash plugin?
[05:07] <BaconBits> ghello
[05:07] <chrisn> bazhang: yes
[05:07] <bazhang> BaconBits: #gentoo ;]
[05:07] <BaconBits> Gentoo is just plain better than ubuntu
[05:07] <nickrud> rainwalker: hm, I do that here regularly. Once for a very important thing I backgrounded and pressed the wrong window's close button.
[05:08] <AtomicSpark> ... need a "do not let stupid user close window" option
[05:08] <bazhang> chrisn when installed
[05:08] <mjw-> chrisn you haven't installed gnash have you?
[05:08] <FourX4Luvn> lol AtomicSpark
[05:08] <chrisn> bazhang: no
[05:08] <bazhang> BaconBits: not a lucky place to say that
[05:08] <chrisn> bazhang: I even tried unistalling and installing the plugin straight from adobe
[05:08] <BaconBits> bazhang: yes it is.
[05:08] <bazhang> chrisn when did you install it
[05:08] <chrisn> mjw-:  no
[05:08] <bazhang> BaconBits: stop
[05:09] <BaconBits> why?
[05:09] <chrisn> bazhang: a few hours ago
[05:09] <bazhang> BaconBits: last warning
[05:09] <AtomicSpark> question: is there a purpose to the different color names of chat users? I am guessing big bold guy is a mod or something.
[05:09] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Did you get my link?  Did it work?   Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Spoken with the average IQ of a gentoo addict. :)
[05:09] <Dr_willis> well not really...
[05:10] <bazhang> wow too late sorry
[05:10] <harrumph> anybody know why parallels doesn't like the 7.10 cd?  installer just prompts to insert a cd, it's in there, filetree's written on it.  did i burn the right iso?
[05:10] <AtomicSpark> lol @ gentoo
[05:10] <mjw-> aw, i kind of liked the ban but no kick. kind of like watching someone stew in their own juices
[05:10] <AtomicSpark> hmm. is there a list of the commands?
[05:11] <chrisn> bazhang: any ideas on what I should do?
[05:11] <bazhang> harrumph: what speed did you burn it at what media did you use, does the cd boot ok not with parallels
[05:11] <Nuke_> whats the channel for hardy
[05:11] <FourX4Luvn> mjw-: Yes.. the size 12 boot in the rear was sorely needed.. quite a let down
[05:11] <elkbuntu> mjw-, this way he cant get the thrills of someone going 'lol @ gentoo'
[05:11] <bazhang> !hardy
[05:11] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:11] <Nuke_> thanks
[05:11] <AtomicSpark> wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC
[05:11] <bazhang> np
[05:11] <jscinoz> is copying a ttf font to fonts:// sufficent to install it? or must something else be done
[05:11] <AtomicSpark> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC
[05:11] <klownish> FourX4Luvn: its telling me incorrect fs type.
[05:12] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Did you try smbfs or cifs?
[05:12] <AtomicSpark> hardy seems like a good update. i am excited. :D i am installing a vm of alpha 4 now
[05:12] <klownish> cifs.
[05:12] <ctex> why is there competition between linux distros? They are all free...
[05:12] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Try smbfs
[05:12] <bazhang> jscinoz: I always just install via apt-get; did you mean outside the repos? what fonts let me give it a shot as soon as I finish sauerbraten ;]
[05:12] <chrisn> I think I am going to have to get rid of ubuntu
[05:12] <chrisn> these hard resets are getting annoying
[05:12] <harrumph> bazhang: 1) 24x 2) taiyo uden i think and 3) im gonna find out as soon as this xp box finishes backup
[05:12] <chrisn> :'(
[05:12] <bazhang> ctex not really ontopic here but just personal preference
[05:13] <killux> how do you set ubuntu's desktop panels and everything back to default?
[05:13] <DaZ> ctex: SLED of RHEL aren't free :F
[05:13] <fismoll8> hello everyone. I'm trying to enable sound when I rdesktop from ubuntu gutsy to my remote windows xp computer. any ideas?
[05:13] <bazhang> harrumph: taiyo uden are known to be troublesome from some accounts
[05:13] <rainwalker> chrisn: what's wrong?
[05:13] <supersako> i am contemplating installing ubuntu on my laptop.. #1 is 20gb /, rest for /home a good partition scheme for ubuntu.. #2 can ubuntu be upgrade to future versions without having to reinstall the whole thing (ex. feisty -> gutsy)
[05:13] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: smbfs is deprecated on Linux.. but the NAS may still use that type.
[05:13] <yu> hi
[05:13] <mjw-> !upgrade > supersako
[05:14] <mjw-> supersako the short answer is yes though
[05:14] <rainwalker> supersako: yes, upgrade all you want, but I find that fresh installs are better for me (clear out all my junk)
[05:14] <AtomicSpark> DaZ + Ctex, I'd use CentOS if you want RedHat. It's the same thing with the logos and such removed.
[05:14] <jscinoz> bazhang, just a few various ones im trying to test
[05:14] <chrisn> rainwalker: for some reason flash is causing xorg to crash
[05:14] <bazhang> supersako 20GB for / ? seems a bit excessive--if you have a seperate home partition then you can do a fresh install from cd otherwise just upgrade via the net
[05:14] <chrisn> rainwalker: I cant figure it out... it is really driving me up the wall
[05:14] <AtomicSpark> !search Hardy
[05:14] <ubotu> Found: ebox, hardy, heron, queue, ubuntu+1, installhardy, 8.04, final
[05:14] <AtomicSpark> !factoid hardy
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about factoid hardy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <fismoll8> !rdesktop
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <AtomicSpark> :|
[05:14] <FourX4Luvn> supersako: You asked those two questions in here a couple hours ago and you were answered.  If you won't listen to the answers you're given, I suggest you quit asking in the first place.
[05:14] <duyanh> auduyanh
[05:15] <rainwalker> chrisn: bleh I hate flash...
[05:15] <DaZ> AtomicSpark: indeed, but it doesn't change the fact thah not all distros are free :F
[05:15]  * Symmetria makes note to self, never attempt to rsync data off the net with it saving to an NFS mount, it is a sure way to get linux to twist its panties in a knot
[05:15] <klownish> FourX4Luvn: its giving me the same error
[05:15] <chrisn> rainwalker: yeah
[05:15] <ctex> DaZ, fine, MOST distros are free :P
[05:15] <supersako> Four i know i apologize, but i had to leave after i asked it and it is off my screen now :(
[05:15] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Ok.. What is the make and model of the NAS?
[05:15] <bazhang> ctex really offtopic here
[05:15] <AtomicSpark> DaZ: CentOS is free. Ubuntu is free. I ran out of useful distros.
[05:15] <klownish> WD-NetCenter 160gig
[05:15] <DaZ> AtomicSpark: ArchLinux :x
[05:15] <ctex> bashang - sry, I get passionate :(
[05:16] <klownish> Firmware:  	 <IP_ADDRESS>3
[05:16] <Symmetria> klownish NAS as in iscsi?
[05:16] <bazhang> join #ubuntu-offtopic then ctex ;]
[05:16] <AtomicSpark> lol. okay i give up. how do i point my sentance at someone? like how do you make your name bold and show name:?
[05:16] <klownish> iscsi?
[05:16] <ctex> bazhang, thanks, didn't know about that
[05:16] <rainwalker> AtomicSpark: you type their nick and then what you want to say to them
[05:16] <FourX4Luvn> supersako: Ok.. Well, yes you can upgrade it as much as you want.. though it's not recommended to upgrade between major version changes (eg. 6.10 -> 7.10)  It works, but it's not always flawless.
[05:16] <chrisn> how do you uninstall the flash plugin from adobe?
[05:16] <bazhang> AtomicSpark: tab completion type first three or so letters then hit tab
[05:16] <Symmetria> heh, whats the communication mechanism between the NAS and the box you are using it on?
[05:17] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Ok.. brb
[05:17] <AtomicSpark> bazhang: omg tab completion XD
[05:17] <bazhang> jscinoz: trying sauerbraten now, just a moment
[05:17] <nickrud> AtomicSpark: for you I type  Ato<tab>
[05:17] <jimmygoon> What is a udeb?
[05:17] <klownish> Symmetria: its connected to my router, via cat5 ;/
[05:17] <AtomicSpark> thanks. i was typing users by hand :|
[05:17] <klownish> if thats what ur asking.
[05:17] <Symmetria> ok, so its either an NFS system or an iSCSI system
[05:17] <nickrud> jimmygoon: a micro deb, used during installation
[05:17] <killux> how do you set ubuntu's appearance back to its default?
[05:17] <rainwalker> AtomicSpark: I did that for a couple of months before I found out about tab completion haha
[05:17]  * Symmetria checks
[05:17] <AtomicSpark> rainwalker: nice
[05:17] <jimmygoon> nickrud, interesting.......
[05:18] <rainwalker> killux: not sure, but let me know if you find out how
[05:18] <klownish> Symmetria: how can i check?
[05:18] <AtomicSpark> anyone install ubuntu on ps3 yet? is there a point?
[05:18] <fdafdsa> How can I upgrade to kernel 2.6.24?
[05:18] <harrumph> bazhang: yeah this cd is fine. this xp box picks it up.  anybody know why parallels doesn't like 7.10 cd?
[05:18] <rainwalker> harrumph: parallels really isn't that great
[05:19] <PKdoR> AtomicSpark: well yes and no
[05:19] <rainwalker> fdafdsa: I think there's some force-version thing you can do with synaptic
[05:19] <fdafdsa> rainwalker i'll look
[05:19] <nickrud> fdafdsa: you'd have to compile it
[05:19] <AtomicSpark> PKdoR: some of us are just bored :P still waiting for my Hardy install to finish.
[05:19] <nickrud> !kernel | fdafdsa
[05:19] <ubotu> fdafdsa: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[05:20] <jscinoz> !envy > jscinoz
[05:20] <PKdoR> AtomicSpark: it looks pretty and runs good it also give your PS3 prety much unlimited capabilities as a media player
[05:20] <rainwalker> PKdoR: are you talking about ubuntu on the ps3?
[05:20] <Symmetria> hrm, klownish that looks like CIFS, and errr at this point I must bow out, I've never worked with one of the cheaper NAS's under linux
[05:20] <chrisn> gah I cant even check gmail
[05:20] <PKdoR> rainwalker: yes
[05:21] <AtomicSpark> PKdoR: I can't even get DVD's to work on ubuntu (too lazy to install vnc) :P
[05:21] <elsha> hey guys, would the only reason 'wired connection' isnt showing up on the networking options be because it isnt recognising the network card?
[05:21] <rainwalker> PKdoR: what do you mean it looks pretty? does it look any different than ubuntu? and how does it make such a great media player?
[05:21] <klownish> Symmetria: it shows on the web admin it can use NFS and CIFS
[05:21] <FY1> If I gpg something on 1 computer and goto decrypt it on another, will it work?
[05:21] <bazhang> jscinoz: about 180 fps; sorry but that game rocks--got caught up in it for a minute ;]
[05:21] <AtomicSpark> elsha: is enable networking checked when you right click on it?
[05:21] <rainwalker> AtomicSpark: did you install libdvdcss?
[05:22] <klownish> but thats all it allows, just a check box..no other configuring for either.
[05:22] <bazhang> www.medibuntu.org for that AtomicSpark
[05:22] <Symmetria> klownish, if its NFS then on the linux box apt-get nfs-common && mount -t nfs nasip:/ /mnt
[05:22] <Symmetria> and see if it mounts on /mnt
[05:22] <mjw-> elsha yes, basically
[05:22] <fdafdsa> I have to get kernel 2.6.24 to install nvidia 169.09
[05:22] <rainwalker> arg bazhang you beat me to it :P
[05:22] <PKdoR> rainwalker: well not a GREAT meadi played but itsdefinitlly better then the stock PS3 as far as playing avi's and stuff
[05:22] <Jangari> I changed the mount point of my data partition and everything's fine, except the database for rhythmbox is looking to the old mountpoint for all my music. Is there a way to find the database itself and globally change /home/data to /media/data in every entry?
[05:22] <Symmetria> or mount -t nfs -o rw nasip:/ /mnt
[05:22] <elsha> i dont remember there being an enable networking checkbox. i'm not in the same room as the computer so it's a bit difficult for me to go check
[05:22] <rainwalker> PKdoR: how so?
[05:22] <elsha> the only option that's coming up is modem connection
[05:23] <supersako> FourXLuvn so for example 7.10 -> Edgy when its stable will be flawless right?
[05:23] <mjw-> elsha the default ubuntu behavior is to enable any ethernet hardware it sees
[05:23] <fismoll8> hello everyone. I'm trying to enable sound when I rdesktop from ubuntu gutsy to my remote windows xp computer. any ideas?
[05:23] <Rael> I have a problem with cutting and pasting. this happened in both fedora and ubuntu(which I'm in now.) alot of times highlighting text to copy it, it won't stay highlighted. or right click copy does not save it to the clipboard, only file copy will work
[05:23] <lalang> hi
[05:23] <klownish> Symmetria: i tried sudo mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/shares/Main/mp3s /media/mp3 and it keeps telling me permission denied.
[05:23] <lalang> am just open this site
[05:23] <Jangari> elsha, is there a network cable connected?
[05:23] <AtomicSpark> PKdoR: PS3 has great audio hardware. pawns my laptop.
[05:23] <rainwalker> Rael: can you highlight text and middle-click to paste?
[05:24] <elsha> jangari, yeah there is, network worked fine when windows was installed
[05:24] <bazhang> Rael: from where are you cutting and pasting? the terminal?
[05:24] <Rael> the terminal, irc, firefox etc. anywhere
[05:24] <Jangari> is this on a desktop or a laptop?
[05:24] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Well, I found at least one person that had your problem after they upgraded to Gutsy.  So it may be an issue with Gutsy, though I can't find any other information about it.  The closest I found was this:  http://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2007/01/13/using-western-digital-netcenter-with-ubuntu-linux/
[05:24] <elsha> desktop
[05:24] <Rael> I don't have a middle button
[05:24] <Rael> I have a scroll wheel I could press
[05:24] <Jangari> self-installed network card?
[05:24] <mjw-> Rael if your wheel is clickable, you have a middle button
[05:24] <themoebius> how do i change the number of virtual desktops?
[05:24] <rainwalker> Rael: scroll wheel = middle button
[05:24] <PKdoR> AtomicSpark: I got o wait to get My PS3 back from repair
[05:24] <Jangari> you might have to go and find a driver for it, but i wouldn't have a clue how to install it.
[05:24] <Symmetria> klownish try and mount / on it to some other directory
[05:25] <rainwalker> themoebius: in compiz or normal?
[05:25] <bazhang> Rael: that is what you want to do then works for many scroll wheels
[05:25] <Symmetria> they may have only exported the root of the drive
[05:25] <anniku989> Hi
[05:25] <elsha> not sure what you mean by that :) think it's a part of the motherboard
[05:25] <themoebius> rainwalker: compiz
[05:25] <Rael> ok
[05:25] <Rael> cool
[05:25] <Rael> but alot of times the text doees not stay highlighted
[05:25] <AtomicSpark> PKdoR: I find the PS3 to be amazingly interesting. It's sopposed to have amazing hardware but it takes 3 freaking hours to format its harddrive. lol.
[05:25] <chrisn> do you think upgrading my kernel will help?
[05:25] <Rael> it goes away as soon as I release the button
[05:25] <anniku989> someone let me know if their free, I'm having some troubles with grub
[05:25] <rainwalker> themoebius: do you have ccsm installed?
[05:25] <bazhang> ccsm general virtual horizontal desktops = 4 themoebius
[05:26] <harrumph> rainwalker: would it make a difference if i burned the "alternate desktop cd" iso instead?
[05:26] <Symmetria> but if its telling you permission denied then there has to be SOME nfs setup on that disk
[05:26] <lalang> hello!what is this site?
[05:26] <FourX4Luvn> anniku989: Just ask the question and if anyone is free and know how to help you, they'll answer :)
[05:26] <lalang> can anyone tell?
[05:26] <mjw-> !ubuntu > lalang
[05:26] <bazhang> ubuntu support channel lalang
[05:26] <klownish> Symmetria: if there is, i dont know how to find it.
[05:26] <anniku989> alright lol
[05:26] <themoebius> rainwalker: i have compiz fusion icon
[05:26] <klownish> FourX4Luvn: thx for the help, i tried that page earlier, with no help.
[05:26] <Symmetria> klownish www.googleisyourfriend.com
[05:26] <Symmetria> :p
[05:26] <Symmetria> :)
[05:26] <FourX4Luvn> klownish: Ok.. then I'm fresh out of ideas, sorry mate.
[05:26] <klownish> Symmetria: www.ivebeenongoogleallnight.com :-P
[05:26]  * elsha scratches her head thoughtfully
[05:27] <Rael> I'm just plaing around with it..sometimes it highlights and stays. sometimes not
[05:27] <rainwalker> harrumph: doubt it, it's just a different way of installing ubuntu (not graphical, all command line)
[05:27] <FourX4Luvn> LOL
[05:27] <lalang> and what is it pls?
[05:27] <zelrikriando> eh this site does exist !!
[05:27] <Symmetria> haha
[05:27] <mjw-> lalang you will learn more from www.ubuntu.com than we could tell you here
[05:27] <AtomicSpark> i wasnt following but here is compiz install info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[05:27] <FourX4Luvn> Too bad it's not an actual site, klownish
[05:27] <bazhang> lalang www.ubuntu.com will explain  this is not a chat channel
[05:27] <Symmetria> klownish did you try mounting the /
[05:27] <zelrikriando> and it looks good ! :p
[05:27] <anniku989> I'm getting "Error 15" from grub when booting the pc, can't get to boot list of ubuntu/vista, so the only way around is using this live cd I'm currently on. This is on a single hdd with two partitions btw
[05:27] <Symmetria> like I said
[05:27] <AtomicSpark> need xserver-xgl package too
[05:27] <klownish> Symmetria:  yeah i did, same error.
[05:28] <jscinoz> bazhang, did sauerbraten finish installing yet?
[05:28] <Symmetria> klownish as a matter of interest, are you on the same network subnet as that NAS?
[05:28] <lalang> so do i need to go ubunto?
[05:28] <rainwalker> themoebius: well I haven't used the fusion icon thing, only ccsm
[05:28] <Dr_willis> lalang,  you are in #ubuntu now
[05:28] <bazhang> anniku stage one grub loads then you get that message?
[05:28] <klownish> Symmetria: im want to say yes, but ill doublecheck.
[05:28] <lalang> ahhhhhhhhh
[05:28] <bazhang> jscinoz: yup 180 fps or so
[05:28] <anniku989> computer posts, then I get error
[05:28] <lalang> then what will i do here to communicate friends
[05:28] <jscinoz> bazhang, can your monitor output at 1280x800?
[05:28] <anniku989> I dont' get to the point here I can choose what i wanna do
[05:28] <bazhang> lalang: you wont this is not a chat channel
[05:29] <jscinoz> bazhang, if so, try my exact command line ./sauer_client "$@" -w1280 -h800 -a4 -b24 -z24 -f3
[05:29] <rainwalker> lalang: you can install ubuntu if you want, and this is the support channel for it
[05:29] <jscinoz> bazhang and see what you get then
[05:29] <bazhang> anniku989:  you get the message grub loading even?
[05:29] <anniku989> oh, yes
[05:29] <charlie> Is there a command to automatically fix permissons? mine are all messed up
[05:29] <mjw-> bazhang doesn't that sound like a hard drive failure...?
[05:29] <klownish> Symmetria: yes i am.
[05:29] <FourX4Luvn> anniku989: What is the exact error you get?
[05:30] <anniku989> oen sec
[05:30] <bazhang> mjw-: not sure could be the mbr is missing or on another drive perhaps
[05:30] <Symmetria> klownish then my last suggestion is go check western digital's website, there has to be a config utility to setup security on that thing
[05:30] <jimmygoon> I can't login under ttys? I type 'j' and it registers a new line and just repeat GNU/Linux/Ubuntu Login: ______
[05:30] <lalang> how to connect friends?
[05:30] <anniku989> http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u100/Anniku989/S6300118.jpg
[05:30] <rainwalker> agg got distracted by a movie...who was I helping again?
[05:30] <FourX4Luvn> Symmetria: According to what I could find about that drive.. it's simply a password is all they offer
[05:30] <anniku989> theres a pic of the error message
[05:30] <rainwalker> lalang: connect friends? with what?
[05:30] <Symmetria> FourX4Luvn hrm, ohhhh
[05:30] <Symmetria> in that case
[05:30] <Symmetria> hold on
[05:30] <MrObvious> FourX4Luvn: bazhang: I've been trying to help him; he's basically installed updates and the computer died (I think he said power outage) 90% through it and now he can't boot either OS.
[05:30] <charlie> Is there a command to automatically fix permissons? mine are all messed up
[05:31] <bazhang> lalang not here this is not a chat channel please go elsewhere for that
[05:31] <anniku989> wth
[05:31] <anniku989> It was error 15 before lol
[05:31] <MrObvious> FourX4Luvn: bazhang: So now he's in the live cd and is stuck.
[05:31] <anniku989> just noticed that in that pic
[05:31] <rainwalker> charlie please don't ask multiple times, if someone knows the answer they will tell you
[05:31] <MrObvious> anniku989: Did it work? lol
[05:31] <FourX4Luvn> MrObvious: Oh.. Didn't see anyone helping.. sorry
[05:31] <ryanw> anyone know why my laptop reboots everytime i shutdown while the cord is still plugged in? It will only completely shutdown if it is unplugged.
[05:31] <MrObvious> FourX4Luvn: No you're fine.  Besides I was in another channel.
[05:31] <bazhang> MrObvious: sorry to overstep ;]
[05:31] <Symmetria> errr wait, nfs doesnt support a password option *hrm*, klownish can you either a.) browse to the drive with a webbrowser or b.) telnet to it?
[05:32] <MrObvious> bazhang: No, please do. I'm stuck.
[05:32] <FY1> !trackerd
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trackerd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <anniku989> Its error 15 though
[05:32] <charlie> !repeat > sp219
[05:32] <Symmetria> that password is probably for setup in some kind of admin interface, because nfs by standard does not support passwords
[05:32] <rainwalker> MrObvious: what are you stuck with?
[05:32] <charlie> !repeat > charlie
[05:32] <MrObvious> rainwalker: Helping anniku989 with a Grub 15 error.
[05:32] <AtomicSpark> !repeat
[05:32] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:32] <klownish> Symmetria:  ill try
[05:32] <Symmetria> !repeat Symmetria
[05:32] <bazhang> rainwalker: haha anniku I believe not him
[05:32] <charlie> !repeat | Symmetria
[05:32] <ubotu> Symmetria: please see above
[05:32] <FourX4Luvn> anniku989: Ok.. I assume this is a dual boot system, with Windows as the other OS?
[05:32] <xeom> Anybody here have any lucky getting the latest version of warsow to run
[05:33] <AtomicSpark> !patience
[05:33] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:33] <anniku989> Yes it is
[05:33] <MrObvious> ! repeat charlie :p
[05:33] <Symmetria> heh there ya go Charlie :)
[05:33] <FY1> anyone have any idea why trackerd is taking up one of my processors?
[05:33] <anniku989> I don't have the vista disk BTW
[05:33] <FourX4Luvn> anniku989: XP?
[05:33] <Symmetria> that actually redirected to me
[05:33] <anniku989> vista
[05:33] <anniku989> lol
[05:33] <AtomicSpark> vista
[05:33] <rainwalker> why is everyone using that repeat factoid repeatedly?
[05:33] <FourX4Luvn> anniku989: Ok.. I'm not too familiar with vista.. is there a way to boot vista to a recovery console?
[05:33] <Symmetria> AtomicSpark now you know how to get it to redirect to someone :)
[05:33] <bazhang> botabuse
[05:33] <FY1> !repeat > rainwalker
[05:33] <anniku989> I can't get that far...
[05:33] <AtomicSpark> the only reason i need it is for CS3
[05:33] <Symmetria> pipe it :)
[05:33] <AtomicSpark> mm dreamweaver
[05:33] <FY1> !repeat -> FY1
[05:33] <bazhang> Symmetria: with the pipe |
[05:34] <roachmmflhyr> when i host (my old hostname) i get roachmmflhyr@okinawa:~$ host ubuntu-box
[05:34] <roachmmflhyr> Host ubuntu-box not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[05:34] <roachmmflhyr>   but when i host $HOSTNAME i always get SERVFAIL
[05:34] <MrObvious> Ok guys seriously, stop playing with the bot before we call the chanops.
[05:34] <rainwalker> FY1: I don't know, but I would recommend beagle over tracker
[05:34] <anniku989> I post, and grub starts to load (so I can choose ubuntu or vista) and errors out before i can do anything
[05:34] <FourX4Luvn> anniku989: You'll need the ... wait... You just said you don't have the CD
[05:34] <AtomicSpark> bazhang: you mean it works like a terminal? no way! lol
[05:34] <MrObvious> !enter | roachmmflhyr
[05:34] <klownish> Symmetria: telnet refused connection, and no on the web browser.
[05:34] <ubotu> roachmmflhyr: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:34] <AtomicSpark> !enter
[05:34] <Symmetria> klownish hold
[05:34] <jbinder> Hi.
[05:34] <FourX4Luvn> anniku989: I can fix it for you if you can get ahold of an XP or VIsta CD to boot from.
[05:34] <FY1> also, does anyone know how to send a network message from an ubuntu computer to a vista computer?
[05:34] <anniku989> I don't have the vista dvd that i can boot off of to recover
[05:34] <xeom> Anybody here have any lucky getting the latest version of warsow to run
[05:34] <AtomicSpark> FY1: what do you mean by a message?
[05:34] <rainwalker> FY1: via IRC?
[05:34] <FourX4Luvn> anniku989: Doesn't have to be the same CD that the computer came with.. just any CD