[01:28] <PCLine__> Good evening everuone.
[01:44] <Unit193> Howdy.
[02:14] <PCLine__> Hello Unit193
[02:14] <PCLine__> Hows things with you?
[02:21] <Unit193> Alive I believe.
[02:26] <PCLine__> I would agree to that since you are typing!


[00:58] <nOStahl> hey guys I am not sure where to ask this, I have minimal ubuntu with just open box and xserver going, how can I set it up to autologin the user instead of it booting up to command prompt
[00:58] <Unit193> Install a DM.
[00:59] <SonikkuAmerica> nOStahl: Get lightdm, it's the easiest
[01:00] <Unit193> KDM, GDM, LXDM. XDM, LightDM (ubuntu default.)
[01:00] <Unit193> Slim too.
[01:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, lightdm-gtk-greeter is, anyway
[01:00] <nOStahl> I didn't know slim did autologin
[01:00] <SonikkuAmerica> unity-greeter is too decorative but it is functional.
[01:01] <nOStahl> I'm making a digital display that loads a fullscreen webpage
[01:01] <Unit193> Lightdm and LXDM are pretty easy to set autologin, but you need a greeter for lightdm.
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Wouldn't lightdm-gtk-greeter do the trick? Or would that pull all of GTK+ in with it
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[01:02] <nOStahl> was hoping to not install ton of dependancies for a login manager :P
[01:02] <nOStahl> should be able to throw a line in a config file somewhere
[01:02] <nOStahl> I'm looking into rungetty now
[08:01] <brauleinchen> i need to install a certificate on firefox. Xubuntu 13.04 64 bits. file is here: http://www.cert.fnmt.es/content/pages_std/certificados/FNMTClase2CA.cer
[08:01] <brauleinchen> i have no idea how to proceed
[08:04] <koegs> ttp://www.utexas.edu/its/help/user-certs/817
[08:10] <brauleinchen> thanks koegs
[13:03] <GridCube> its there a way to edit the gnumeric icons menus order?
[13:05] <GridCube> the font selection box its far to big and eats other options i want to use like color painting of cells
[13:22] <SonikkuAmerica> GridCube: I wouldn't know, does #gnumeric exist?
[13:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Nope, guess not
[13:22] <GridCube> nope
[13:23] <knome> it's part of the gnome office suite, so maybe people on the gnome channels would know
[13:24] <SonikkuAmerica> (I wonder why they can't exist on Freenode.)
[13:24] <Pici> because they have their own IRC network?
[13:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Tru dat
[13:24] <knome> i assume the real question is why they need to have their own network
[13:24] <GridCube> whats that network?
[13:24] <SonikkuAmerica> GIMPNet
[13:24] <knome> irc.gnome.org ?
[13:25] <Pici> yep
[13:25] <SonikkuAmerica> irc.gimp.org actually
[13:25] <Pici> I think.
[13:25] <knome> aha.
[13:25] <SonikkuAmerica> All things GIMP Tool Kit (or "gtk")
[13:25] <SonikkuAmerica> The gtk acronym just looks weird.
[13:25] <Pici> irc.gnome.org is a CNAME to irc.gimp.net
[13:25] <GridCube> nope, blocked by proxy
[13:25] <GridCube> i can only join freenode here
[13:26] <knome> they don't have a #gnumeric channel, but they have #gnome-office
[13:26] <knome> GridCube, or just #gnome on freenode
[13:26] <knome> " #gnome - Unofficial GNOME help channel on freenode. (irc.freenode.net) "
[13:27] <knome> anyway... i need to run soon
[13:27] <knome> see you later
[16:47] <p3d4N7ic> Does anyone know how to manually set up an LVM with the Xubuntu LiveCD? It doesn't seem to come equipt with the proper controls. Do I have to use a different CD, or do I have to use command line to do it? I just want a little guidance, I'm sure I can figure it out after that
[16:48] <GridCube> !lvm
[16:49] <GridCube> p3d4N7ic, at that level any config will be the same either in xubuntu or mainbuntu
[16:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey stuffin
[16:49] <stuffin> hello, this is the xubuntu help?
[16:49] <stuffin> hi
[16:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Yep
[16:49] <GridCube> !hi | stuffin
[16:49] <stuffin> oh good. so i seem to have lost the sound slider , i am in xfce right now
[16:49] <p3d4N7ic> Thank you very much ubottu and GridCube, I really appreciate it
[16:49] <stuffin> i also dont see any sound settings in the settings manager
[16:49] <GridCube> stuffin, go to the panel and re-add the indicatos plugin
[16:49] <SonikkuAmerica> GridCube: I keep forgetting about the !hi command... why don't we have that in the other *buntu channels?
[16:50] <stuffin> o try
[16:50] <stuffin> i*
[16:50] <GridCube> SonikkuAmerica, i dunno, i have them everywhere
[16:50] <GridCube> P:
[16:50] <SonikkuAmerica> I can't seem to make that !command work... :P
[16:50] <stuffin> oh yes! ty GridCube
[16:50] <stuffin> i can keep the sound now and not the bluetooth icon or the arrows?
[16:50] <GridCube> stuffin, remove the broken indicator plugin
 Sorry, I don't know anything about hi <<< GridCube, that's what I get outside of #xubuntu... weird.
[16:51] <GridCube> stuffin, sorry i dont understand
[16:51] <GridCube> SonikkuAmerica, oh well
[16:51] <stuffin> when i choose indictor, it is sound, bluetooth icon and two arrows, one up one down
[16:51] <GridCube> yes thats networking
[16:51] <stuffin> i just want sound
[16:51] <GridCube> mmm
[16:52] <GridCube> if you rea-add the indicator the pavucontrol  doesnt reappear?
[16:52] <GridCube> if you "close" the plugin indicators it will restart itself for networking
[16:52] <GridCube> but it will not re add the sound control
[16:53] <stuffin> i rea-add the indicator three times it always give me back those 3
[16:53] <GridCube> you have to manually restart the plugin indicators for the sound application to re appear
[16:53] <GridCube> oh, it has to have them 3
[16:53] <stuffin> ok, but now i also dont hear the sound when adjusting the audio, like the little "plop"
[16:54] <GridCube> be sure you are outputing to the proper device
[16:54] <GridCube> check the last tab for the sound settings, check that sound its going to programs in the proper output
[16:54] <stuffin> it is, ty
[16:55] <GridCube> if you have hdmi and analog it might be going to the one you are not currently using
[16:55] <stuffin> all speake tests work
[16:55] <stuffin> strange
[16:55] <GridCube> open alsa-mixer on a terminal and check that nothing its muted
[16:56] <stuffin> hope do i open it?
[16:57] <stuffin> how*
[16:57] <GridCube> open a terminal and type alsamixer
[16:58] <stuffin> they all look good
[16:58] <stuffin> maybe just a restart
[16:59] <stuffin> one last question if i can. I decided to install the most recent proprietary driver, is that ok? i didnt see much difference with the other proprietary.
[17:02] <GridCube> yes thats fine
[17:03] <stuffin> ty
[17:03] <GridCube> generic should work though i dont have any problem with them, though i do not have privative for this machine to try P:
[17:03] <stuffin> generic wont work well enough
[17:03] <stuffin> hey, do i need install gstreamer?
[17:04] <GridCube> if you installed xubuntu-restricted-extras you got all what you need
[17:04] <stuffin> i dont think i did
[17:05] <stuffin> unless it come with it
[17:05] <GridCube> if you checked the "install media stuffs" in the installer while installing you should, you can do a fast check using sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:06] <stuffin> i will ty
[17:06] <GridCube> if it says its in its latest version you already have it, if it ask you to install a gazillion programs its not installed :P
[17:06] <stuffin> it is installing, ty again
[17:07] <GridCube> dont worry :)
[17:07] <stuffin> do you know of good usenet download?
[17:07] <stuffin> gui
[17:07] <GridCube> not really
[17:07] <stuffin> k
[17:07] <GridCube> !search usenet
[17:07] <GridCube> nop
[17:07] <GridCube> !find usenet
[17:07] <GridCube> oh there seems to be some many
[17:08] <stuffin> hotdog! i try
[17:08] <GridCube> :)
[17:39] <blue_pearl> in Xubuntu 13.04 command in /etc/rc.local not executing when computer starts , what can be the problem?
[17:41] <brainwash> blue_pearl, rc.local might be executed even before the X server is running
[17:42] <brainwash> blue_pearl, try to delay your command in rc.local
[17:48] <blue_pearl> brainwash, ooh , i see
[17:50] <brainwash> blue_pearl, you can also use the lightdm script hooks to run commands on startup
[17:50] <brainwash> blue_pearl, or upstart :)
[17:50] <blue_pearl> brainwash, ok, thanks
[18:12] <jdr> Hi Folks, I've got a pc with xubuntu 10.04 on it (booting from sda3). I want to install xubuntu 13.04 (but have no usb bootable pc and no cddrive).
[18:13] <jdr> Any solution on how I can install xubuntu from a partition?
[18:13] <SonikkuAmerica> jdr: Does it have an Internet connection?
[18:13] <jdr> yes
[18:13] <SonikkuAmerica> All you need
[18:14] <SonikkuAmerica> jdr: STEP 1: Open a terminal and type [ do-release-upgrade ].
[18:14] <SonikkuAmerica> jdr: That will get you to 12.04 LTS.
[18:15] <jdr> I tried so, but it does not want to boot any more after I upgraded
[18:15] <SonikkuAmerica> jdr: Why not?
[18:15] <jdr> some errors like colord? group did not exist etc
[18:15] <bekks> Which errors exactly?
[18:15] <jdr> do I have to upgrade all of my packages first before doing the upgrade to 12.04?
[18:16] <SonikkuAmerica> jdr: You shouldn't have to. But bekks is right. We need !details
[18:17] <jdr> ok, I give it another try then and post the errors as I encounter them. sec
[18:17] <SonikkuAmerica> jdr: It's recommended that you run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ] first, just to be safe.
[18:18] <jdr> That's idd what I am going to try first. Make sure my system is up to date, then upgrade to 12.04
[18:18] <peyam> Hi
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> !hi
[18:19] <peyam> My thinkpad gets very hot with xubuntu
[18:19] <jdr> This will take a while though, so will get back to you later
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> jdr: k
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> peyam: Your ThinkPad gets hot, eh?
[18:24] <peyam> SonikkuAmerica: it goes up to 70 after using 30 min
[18:24] <superboot> peyam: 70c?
[18:24] <peyam> yes
[18:24] <superboot> Wow!
[18:25] <peyam> it is pretty high for a intel computer
[18:25] <SonikkuAmerica> peyam: Cant touch dis (literally)
[18:25] <peyam> dis?
[18:25] <peyam> what does it mean?
[18:25] <SonikkuAmerica> == this
[18:25] <peyam> okej
[18:26] <peyam> I thonk it should eb modified in the bios
[18:26] <SonikkuAmerica> peyam: MC Hammer
[18:26] <peyam> 70 is very high
[18:26] <peyam> MC hammmer? you are from March? I dont understand you :(
[18:26]  * SonikkuAmerica thonks his CPU to make sure it's not overheating.
[18:26] <peyam> SonikkuAmerica: sorry Im not so good at english
[18:26] <SonikkuAmerica> He's a rapper
[18:27] <superboot> peyam: It's not your english. He isn't making any sense. :)
[18:27] <peyam> there is an offtopic channel as well
[18:27] <peyam> go there :)
[18:27] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | All of us
[18:27] <peyam> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/751689?comments=all
[18:27] <peyam> i find this
[18:47] <hylian> i was wondering if anyone knows that Xubuntu 12.04 LTS help docs say "Welcome to Xubuntu 11.10!"
[18:48] <hylian> it says it in
[18:48] <hylian> it says it in file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/about/xubuntu-index.html
[18:48] <knome> hylian, it's outdated, but known bug
[18:50] <hylian> ok, so long as it's known about. That's all I needed to worry about. So it is on launchpad or something? And, do I use launchpad, being that i am not a directly Ubuntu user?
[18:52] <hylian> well, i answered my own questions, with google, thanks knome!
[18:52] <knome> hylian, i don't know if it's in launchpad, but we (xubuntu team) are working on it
[18:52] <knome> *can't remember :)
[18:52] <knome> no problem
[18:53] <hylian> before I go, i have to say that Xubuntu rocks! KDE is now my second fave, but it still holds no candle to XFCE.
[19:02] <seronis> knome, does the xubuntu team also fix bugs / missing features in things like Thunar?  So far in 2 weeks i've found that it doesnt allow editing (or even seeing the status of) the executable bit on files.  And it doesnt support  ctrl-tab and ctrl-shift-tab for navigating between tabs
[19:02] <knome> seronis, not really. check the xfce bugzilla for that
[19:03] <knome> seronis, (we can if it's critical, but this is more towards feature request)
[19:06] <seronis> ok thanks for quick response. i havent bothered filing bug reports / feature requests on those yet BECAUSE they're such small issues. Waiting till im comfortable enough with the environment to be able to submit a patch along with the report.  just wanted to know which group would be most receptive
[19:07] <knome> seronis, ubuntu-bug thunar files a bug about thunar to launchpad against the thunar package in ubuntu, but with xfce we usually forward people to file upstream bugs anyway
[19:07] <knome> s/about/for/
[19:21] <jdr> @SonikkuAmerica: I've updated all packages, and now running Distribution upgrade to 12.04. I encounter error as in: http://pastebin.com/gNSSnKyD
[19:21] <jdr> Will killall xscreensaver and killall xlockmore do the trick here?
[19:21] <SonikkuAmerica> jdr: Instead of that...
[19:22] <SonikkuAmerica> jdr: I would recommend disabling the screen saver and the screen locker in xfce4-settings-manager
[19:26] <jdr> ok upgrading
[20:18] <jdr> SonikkuAmerica: upgrade went fine right now. System could reboot.  to get from 12.04 to 13.04: does this require me to get to 12.10 first ?
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes.
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> And you'll have to tweak [ software-properties-gtk ] to do it.


[13:27] <Zephyr1139> Has anyone else ever encountered an empty desktop with just a mouse cursor after an install of ubuntu 14.04?
[13:28] <jasonjang> it's my case, a few Hrs ago.
[17:43] <joey> jasonjang: yes
[17:43] <joey> jasonjang: it happens a lot when you upgrade using parallels
[17:44] <joey> there are a few different ways to fix it... it depends on if you are using parallels or not
[17:44] <joey> if so, change /etc/X11/xorg.conf back to the default
[17:45] <joey> if not, first try nuking xorg.conf (by backing it up)  if that doesn't work your gconf settings in your home directory are corrupt
[17:45] <joey> you will probably have to nuke .cache and .gnome*
[17:45] <jasonjang> ok, THX 2 much.
[17:45] <jasonjang> ok, THX 2 much.  joey  ^^
[17:45] <joey> oh and .compiz*
[17:46] <joey> the xorg.org with parallels is a parallels issue, not ubuntu
[17:46] <joey> the others are problems with the way compiz and gnome work
[17:55] <joey> apparently 14.10 has had some issues.  http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-14-10-breakage-breakage-everywhere/1914/11?u=joey


 @ubot93 [<ubot93> standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @Samuel …], Oh! This message was 23 mins late. I was asleep. Alarm woke me up at 2.30 but I turned it off and went back to sleep. 😅 This message was at 53.
 @lubuntu_bot [*guiverc: didn't realize it was a friday (my local)*], Me tooo.
 Anything I missed?
 @wxl [<wxl> i dug back up the problem with the runner shortcut and i'm still waiting f …], Yup! That's on the list. Gotta test things nicely before filing the bug.
[05:31] <guiverc> The_LoudSpeaker, a reminder of someone making dev.  I forget who :)  talk about a install issue (not really part of meeting; but occupied a good portion of the time)
 guiverc: Is there a bug report to that issue?
[05:47]  * guiverc looks up iso.qa.ubu.com .. http://launchpad.net/bugs/1851188  (it only impacts a few systems, is upstream as I recall discussion); might be best to read irclogs of discussion
[05:51] <guiverc> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/01/02/%23lubuntu-devel.html  (which you probably don't need..)
 okay. I am trying to upload lubuntu-meta
 I can't get my secret key
 `gpg —list-secret-keys` doesn't do anything
 in my container
 but in my host, I do get the same output as `gpg —list-keys`
 @HMollerCl I don't see anywhere the "/" as you mentioned.
 look at the packaging guide
 Ack.
 `gpg: skipped "9616B898C578B454C3260288*********": No secret key`
 asteriks for obvious reasons
 @kc2bez
 This is same result that I got that day.
 this occurs even after following 2. L from extras from packaging requirements
 did you create the key in the container?
 I did
 but wait. I got it.
 fixed
[06:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5b9d29ce5a3a: Rephrasee Best Score] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5b9d29ce5a3a
 I had imported the gpg key using openkeychain. But somehow didn't import secret key that's why the empty output when running `gpg —list-secret-keys` So I did some digging and ran `gpg --export-secret-keys $ID > my-private-key.asc` on my host. where simillar importing of key using openkeychain had worked successfully. Then I ju
 tl.dr: when using openkeychain to import keys into a container, do run `gpg --export-secret-keys $ID > my-private-key.asc` on host and import that file.
 upload succesfull
[06:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3928c090ec3e: Specify which icon] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3928c090ec3e
 @kc2bez what about the git tag part of the tutorial ?
 yup, that is the next part.
 I run it now in this clone only?
 or a new one?
 wherever you did arc land.
 ah
 then same one
 the ubuntu/version is "ubuntu/focal" or "ubuntu/20.04.4" ?
 focal I guess?
 no
 hang on
 ow
 okay
 You uploaded rSeed ?
 rMETA
 r seed was done by you I guess. I did the rMETA part.
 I landed this: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D68
[06:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Added lubuntu-grub-theme and fonts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D68
 trying to upload it. I mean uploaded.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [r seed was done by you I guess. I did the rMETA part.], it was done by wxl
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D66
[06:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Added fonts suporting new xscreensaver dialoguebox and added lubuntu-grub-theme.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D66
 I got it now. here are the tags https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-meta/tags/ubuntu%252Ffocal/
 your upload should be Ubuntu/VERSION or in this case 20.04.4
 So ubuntu/20.04.4 ?
 yeah
 yup
 done
 pushed
 i mean git pushed
 verified
 edited the packaging tutorial to give the warning about this.
 well it was #2 in the important variables above :p
 Ow.
 It's all good. whatever helps you remember.
[10:55] <gsilvapt> tsimonq2, thanks for the link! I was checking that one out earlier but I'll keep reading :)
[10:55] <gsilvapt> wxl, thanks! I will be around trying to do something useful :D
[10:56] <gsilvapt> wxl, about Telegram, I use it a lot too. Perhaps I'll join your telegram group :)
[11:02] <gsilvapt> I created an account to be able to comment things and/or download documents as needed
 Welcome @gsilvapt
[11:12] <gsilvapt> Thanks The_LoudSpeaker :)
 Has the today's iso not built yet?
 Where can I check the status?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Has the today's iso not built yet?], Your ISO builds about 4:30pm UK time
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Where can I check the status?], Know about this?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Know about this?], https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/focal/ … and … https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/lubuntu
 Thanks!
 So the times mentioned on this page are according to time in UK? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
 I thought they were according to my timezone.
 I think they are according to the server time which is likely UTC.
 Okay. So still 4 hours
[14:58] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T139: Add snaps to the panel] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2831
[15:50] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T139: Add snaps to the panel] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2833
 Happy new year lugito
 Al ser gtk ya no la incluimos, no hemos encontrado una versión Qt
 Sil la necesita es hwinfo el paquete
 Ooops, wrong channel
 tsimonq2: kc2bez: Regarding task 139, I installed spotify via snap and checked I cannot see it in the menu either. My phab account hasn't been approved yet, so I can't comment directly
 Wanted to let you guys know
 This on Lubuntu 19.10.
 @gsilvapt [tsimonq2: kc2bez: Regarding task 139, I installed spotify via snap and checked I …], Mmm, I installed Spotify via snap in 20.04 and it appear in the menu
 @HMollerCl I think we were targetting 18.04. Has something been made in that regard?
 @gsilvapt [tsimonq2: kc2bez: Regarding task 139, I installed spotify via snap and checked I …], Does the desktop file show up in other flavors for that snap? What's the difference between the desktop file of this snap and the desktop file of a snap that actually shows up? Is it a problem with the spotify snap or is it e.g. a prob
 All of those should be answered to get to the bottom of this :)
 @gsilvapt [@HMollerCl I think we were targetting 18.04. Has something been made in that reg …], I'm not sure what you mean
 If I had to make a wild guess, it would be that the menus in LXQt don't pick it up
 Oh, so different releases should have different results. I would expect 18.04 to have different results compared to 19.10/20.04 (which should be similar enough)
 @tsimonq2 [If I had to make a wild guess, it would be that the menus in LXQt don't pick it …], 20.04 also uses LXQt, right?
 If it doesn't show up in 18.04 but it does in 19.10/20.04 then we should SRU a fix to 18.04
 @gsilvapt [20.04 also uses LXQt, right?], Yes
 18.10 and on is LXQt only
 @tsimonq2 [Does the desktop file show up in other flavors for that snap? What's the differe …], I can try to debug these but later only. In my home Ubuntu installation, I have this same package installed via snap and worked fine
 I guess I can (must, actually) set a Lubuntu VM to test these issues and I can come back to you with a reply
 (fwiw in case you're wondering, my push to exclusively use LXQt in 18.10 on is one of the factors that caused gilir to finally depart the project as he wanted to continue LXDE and that wasn't part of our project goals; since I know you knew him at some point)
 @gsilvapt [I can try to debug these but later only. In my home Ubuntu installation, I have …], Okay
 If you aren't already very sure of this, QA is going to be a major thing in getting the precise answer to this problem
 Perhaps guiverc or someone else can help you with the QA parts if you're not able to at the moment but I'm confident that this task can be completed by you if you have the time and want to assign it to yourself :)
 @tsimonq2 [(fwiw in case you're wondering, my push to exclusively use LXQt in 18.10 on is o …], I'm aware. I was around when that discussion started and know what it ended up - I also know your stance regarding snaps :D
 @gsilvapt [I'm aware. I was around when that discussion started and know what it ended up - …], It's shifted from "bad things" to "I don't use them in production personally and I don't find a use for them in Lubuntu but they're not horrible"
[16:32] <kc2bez> I am running 19.10 here currently. This box was originally 18.10 and has been updates through the releases. I have had the remmina snap all along and have had no issue with it showing in the menu. I can test on a fresh install too.
 The only thing I've been very carefully considering whether we should snap or not is the Lubuntu Manual but ultimately that's a "make work" project for @lynorian and I simply haven't brought it up yet
 I just don't think LXQt moves fast enough for snaps to be ideal
 @lynorian works really hard and very diligently on the manual, which is why if we wanted to include it on the actual install, a snap would make more sense
 Anyway, since this is the first time I've typed out that idea, thoughts are welcome :) it would probably have to be with an offline or PDF viewer and we'd have to have translations working, but I think an offline Lubuntu Manual would be great
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> I am running 19.10 here currently. This box was originally 18.10 and ha …], Want to test 18.04 as well? Perhaps that's where the issue is
[16:35] <kc2bez> I can and will
 Thanks Dan
 Wimpress, popey: ^ (more of a CC, re: snapping the Lubuntu Manual and including it with 20.04 but snaps not fitting in with the LXQt story as well)
 @ericadams @profetik777 I wanted to touch base again re: marketing. What did/can we decide on for next steps in getting that ball rolling?
 @tsimonq2 [@ericadams @profetik777 I wanted to touch base again re: marketing. What did/can …], The holidays got in the way. I will look at @profetik777's entries on Phriction and I am part way through a website review.
 @ericadams [The holidays got in the way. I will look at @profetik777's entries on Phriction …], Sounds good. Would you or @profetik777 be available to attend next week's standup to share whatever progress you have made?
 From there if there's something actionable on our part, we can get you the access and such that you need.
 @tsimonq2 [Sounds good. Would you or @profetik777 be available to attend next week's standu …], Possibly. When is it?
 @ericadams [Possibly. When is it?], Thursday 3 PM US Central
 Although with people sometimes forgetting about it, maybe 3:30 ;)
 If not, alternatively I'd ask the both of you to prepare some text and paste it (or a link to it) here on Thursday at some point
 Whatever progress you end up making, it's fine, but the more it's actually worked on, I think the more momentum we can get going for the marketing team as a whole :)
 Ideally we'd have as many marketing team members as Lubuntu Developers
 @teward001 I think we need to investigate something other than Weblate so we can get translations rolling for the Manual
 The problem isn't that regular things like desktop files can't be translated using Weblate
 We already have translations that stand for that
 The problem is that translating multi-layered Sphinx projects with Weblate is a bit of a PITA
 And by "a bit of" I mean "big"
 I could totally be missing something too
 I haven't quite found a solution that's separate from "add each subdirectory as its own subproject" which is hours of tedious manual entry
 I might be wrong though, perhaps there's a Sphinx tool we can use to get everything in one directory and add it to Weblate
 I just think it's time for me to stop procrastinating on it and actually address this thing head on so we can start getting translations coming in
 @tsimonq2 [Ideally we'd have as many marketing team members as Lubuntu Developers], Agreed. I can have at least the text but will try to make the meeting.
 Cool, sounds good
[18:16] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T139: Add snaps to the panel] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2834
 @wxl [<wxl> ^ there's a fun job for you @The_LoudSpeaker — get rid of all of those (an …], What do i do? Delete the recipe(s) ?
 About this: https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+recipes
[18:51] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T139: Add snaps to the panel] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2836
 I just made a change to https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+recipe/falkon-daily …  Build options. This will hopefully stop those build fail emails in lubuntu-dev mailing list.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [What do i do? Delete the recipe(s) ?], wxl:
 Most of them are building for wily. Tf!
[18:57] <wxl> yeah i would delete them @The_LoudSpeaker
 That's a huge task to delete them one by one. But I can do it tomorrow while travelling.
[18:59] <wxl> you could probably use the launchpad api for it
[18:59] <wxl> it still will take some time
[18:59] <wxl> https://help.launchpad.net/API
[19:01] <wxl> don't think so though https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#source_package_recipe
 I will have a look.
 @wxl [<wxl> don't think so though https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#source_pack …], Yup. Looks like that. After reading through half of that page. I will have a good look tomorrow morning.
[19:05] <wxl> probably easier just to delete them
 Yup!
[19:11] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: here's an example of putting it to work https://polka.bike/blog/mass-subs/
[19:11] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T139: Add snaps to the panel] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2837
 @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: here's an example of putting it to work https://polka.bi …], Noted.
[19:15] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T139: Add snaps to the panel] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2838
[21:48] <lynorian> Does that involve yaml?
 @lynorian [<lynorian> Does that involve yaml?], Yeah, a little bit
[21:49] <lynorian> for snap packages that is the part I worry about the most I don't really like yaml  but otherwise would not be against that idea
 Okay
[23:19] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T139: Ensure applications in Snap packages show up in the lxqt-panel menu] gsilvapt (Gustavo Silva) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2841
[23:43] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T139: Ensure applications in Snap packages show up in the lxqt-panel menu] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2842
[23:51] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T139: Ensure applications in Snap packages show up in the lxqt-panel menu] gsilvapt (Gustavo Silva) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2843


[00:22] <vorlon> rbasak: it appears an MP that's in progress but not in condition to be sponsored can't ever be dropped from the sponsorship report. e.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu/+source/casper/+git/casper/+merge/373690 now has an 'abstain' review on behalf of ubuntu-sponsors but still shows up in the report.  I'm not sure if MP reviews in certain states should drop it from the report?
[00:22] <vorlon> rbasak: or I could just add xnox to the BLACKLISTED_REQUESTER tuple ;D
[08:47] <xnox> flips tables
[08:48] <xnox> vorlon:  i changed it to work in progress, maybe that will drop it off the report?
[10:33] <rbasak> vorlon: looks like the bzr MP handling filtered for "Needs review" only. I guess we could do that?
[12:59] <enr0n> Can a core dev please retry the following? `retry-autopkgtest-regressions --blocks systemd -s focal | grep -v fwupd`. TIA!
[13:03] <rbasak> ahasenack: there's an autopkgtest regression in pending-sru for iptables. Did it reappear after you cleared them?
[13:03] <ahasenack> rbasak: it must have, I definitely cleared them
[13:03] <rbasak> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/a/autopkgtest/jammy/armhf suggests not
[13:03] <rbasak> I'll just retry
[13:05] <rbasak> Did it reappear> I realised that I could just look
[13:06] <ahasenack> subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['cp', '-a', '/usr/lib/locale/C.UTF-8', '/tmp/autopkgtest.test.32tiwsgn/chroot//usr/lib/locale']' returned non-zero exit status 1.
[13:06] <ahasenack> ??
[13:07] <rbasak> enr0n: done
[13:09] <ahasenack> rbasak: it's green now
[13:10] <rbasak> That was quick!
[13:10] <ahasenack> rbasak: oh, autopkgtest was a new upload, not iptables
[13:10] <ahasenack> the regression was autopkgtest, not iptables
[13:10]  * rbasak hates searching for autopkgtest in the pending-sru report
[13:12] <rbasak> I'd prefer to see the pending-sru report clear before releasing as a less error-prone check than my examining things manually. But +1 to release as soon as the current status ends up in the report.
[13:13] <rbasak> Assuming that the current status is "all good" of course</pedantic>
[13:14] <ahasenack> you realize you could be racing it the other way around
[13:14] <ahasenack> the report could be green, but there is a dep8 failure that just wasn't picked up yet
[13:14] <rbasak> That's true.
[13:15] <rbasak> But if we're moving towards taking britney out of dry run mode, then that's something I guess we'll have to live with.
[13:18] <rbasak> Here's a perfect and minimal SRU verification report from GunnarHj. He's not here, but thanks! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-pinyin/+bug/2019921/comments/5
[13:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2019921 in ibus-pinyin (Ubuntu Jammy) "ibus-pinyin: Crashes when opening Preferences" [High, Fix Committed]
[13:47] <enr0n> rbasak: thanks!
[14:08] <UnivrslSuprBox> rbasak: what does "britney out of dry run mode" mean here? How are migrations done now if not by Britney?
[14:37] <rbasak> UnivrslSuprBox: I'm only talkig about stable releases. There, the SRU team do "migrations" manually (we call this "releasing" for SRUs), informed by britney at https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/pending-sru.html but not actually performed by britney. We use sru-release from ubuntu-archive-tools instead.
[14:53] <vorlon> xnox: moving it to WIP is wrong tho; there should be a way to remove an MP from the report without changing the top-level status
[14:54] <vorlon> rbasak: I suppose having it only include 'Needs Review' for git reviews could be reasonable yes
[15:00] <sergiodj> vorlon: hey, if you're OK with my reply on https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiodj/ubuntu/+source/clamav/+git/clamav/+merge/442791 I intend to go ahead and merge it later this week
[15:04] <vorlon> sergiodj: that's fine - and sorry, since I didn't claim a review on that (it was just a drive-by comment) I didn't get notified of your response
[15:05] <sergiodj> vorlon: that's fine, no worries.  thanks for chiming in
[15:25] <dviererbe> Hello, can someone review my Merge Proposal to Merge unzip from Debian unstable? It should was just a simple merge conflict in the debian/control file, so it should not take too much time to review it.
[15:25] <dviererbe> https://code.launchpad.net/~dviererbe/ubuntu/+source/unzip/+git/unzip/+merge/443804
[16:13] <cjwatson> We're attempting to cut over Launchpad's Debian importer to a new Juju-deployed environment based on focal (it was previously manually-constructed and based on xenial); things look OK on staging, but at minimum the first run will take a few more hours than usual to populate its mirror, and if there's anything unforeseen then it may be broken until tomorrow.
[16:14] <cjwatson> Debian imports are usually not _super_ time-sensitive though.
[17:00] <ahasenack> rbasak: iptables is clear now in the pending sru report
[18:42] <rbasak> ahasenack: OK released


[12:39] <TrillClinton> MATE actually works great on this little ASUS transformer tablet
[16:34] <chengzimu> hello?
[16:41] <Menzador> chengzimu - what's up?
[16:45] <chengzimu> i need to setup a chinese input
[16:45] <chengzimu> but i can't setup
[16:46] <chengzimu> and it give me a error
[16:46] <Menzador> IBus?
[16:50] <Menzador> chengzimu - Did you install IBus? [ sudo apt install ibus ]
[16:51] <chengzimu> I wangt use sogou
[17:53] <mate|14161> hola, ¿alguien habla español?
[17:53] <mate|14161> :D
[17:54] <mate|14161> :(
[17:55] <diogenes_> !es | mate|14161
[17:56] <mate|14161> n_n
[17:57] <mate|14161> Tx
[18:22] <mate|14123> New here. What is the purpose of this software???
[18:23] <mate|14123> Are these people on the right side of the screen alive?
[18:23] <diogenes_> mate|14123, what?>
[18:23] <mate|14123> Are they computers?
[18:24] <mate|14123> Space Aliens?
[18:24] <mate|14123> Unable to communicate?
[18:24] <diogenes_> yeah they usually visit you when smoking
[18:24] <mate|14123> Very quiet people?
[18:25] <mate|14123> Weed?
[18:25] <diogenes_> exactly
[18:26] <mate|14123> Seriously... what happens here. I don't understand. Can you help me?
[18:27] <mate|14123> I guess there is a purpose but it must be a secret?
[18:27] <diogenes_> mate|14123, unfortunately I'm not a doctor :)
[18:28] <mate|14123> Are you from planet Earth? Mars? Dark side of the moon, Antartica???
[18:28] <diogenes_> from Phobos
[18:28] <pavlos> or Deimos
[18:29] <diogenes_> pavlos, Phobos ) Deimos is my step brother :)
[18:29] <mate|14123> I know they keep destroying probes that are sent near them.
[18:29] <pavlos> k
[20:23] <pavlos> hi ... fresh 18.04 beta, caja network does not discover other hosts ...