[06:48] <mup> PR snapd#12790 closed: many: implement workaround for veritysetup usage on older distros <Created by Meulengracht> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12790>
[08:24] <mup> PR snapd#12797 opened: data/selinux: more AVC denials that needs to be handled <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12797>
[08:33] <mup> PR core#133 opened: Makefile: fix version script <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/core/pull/133>
[09:31] <mup> PR pc-gadget#89 closed: Pull shim and grub from the Ubuntu archive <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/pc-gadget/pull/89>
[09:39] <mup> PR snapd#12798 opened: overlord/state: introduce a new Wait() method on Tasks <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12798>
[10:04] <mup> PR snapd#12747 closed: tests/core: extended gadget defaults test for default-configure hook <Squash-merge> <Created by ernestl> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12747>
[10:14] <mup> PR snapd#12586 closed: tests: add spread test for verifying usage of validation-sets in the model assertion using prepare-image <Squash-merge> <Created by Meulengracht> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12586>
[16:41] <mup> PR snapd#12799 opened: interfaces: add nfs-mount interface <Created by atomcult> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12799>


[17:53] <tenc> Good afternoon everyone.
[17:54] <wrst> howdy tenc
[17:55] <wrst> doing well?
[17:56] <tenc> Doing great thanks; and you?
[17:56] <wrst> yes
[17:56] <wrst> warming up looks to be heading above freezing mark today
[17:57] <tenc> Yeah I thought I escaped this moving down from Maine. I guess this year there's no escape.
[17:58] <wrst> ha ha :)
[17:59] <cyberanger> tenc: you can take the man/woman out of the north, but you can't take the north out of the man/woman
[18:00] <wrst> well I think he was atleast hoping to take the -10 out of something :)

[18:00] <cyberanger> sounds like it's better there though
[18:00] <wrst> we are up to 30
[18:00] <cyberanger> I-90 reopened, but a ton of travel bans still
[18:01] <wrst> sounds like loads of fun
[18:02] <cyberanger> well, return to work, bbl
[18:02] <cyberanger> wrst: surely is, for the same reasons it isn't
[18:02]  * cyberanger logs out and continues migrating cloudstack
[20:29] <tenc>  /away


[00:12] <jcb2016_> Bashing-om: sorry for the delay. How would I enable networking in the root recovery console?
[00:12] <Bashing-om> jcb2016_: Is an option in the menu.
[00:13] <jcb2016_> Oh ok
[00:19] <zarozombie> quit()
[00:19] <thaurwylth> Hmmmm, Skype does no longer support the Firefox web interface. Is there a Ubunty Skype daemon? I tried apt-cache search skype and found the following non-lib* packages: pidgin-sipe, sipwitch, sipwitch-cgi, empathy-skype, and a bunch of pidgin-skype versions.
[00:21] <pragmaticenigma> thaurwylth: to the best of my knowledge, there is as "skype for linux" snap installer
[00:22] <pragmaticenigma> thaurwylth: with an official install on Skypes homepage
[00:23] <thaurwylth> Does that mean the same thing as what I found on the Skype webpage? ...Ah, another line appeared in between, I guess it's the same. go.skype.com/skypeforlinux-64.deb
[00:28] <thaurwylth> I was able to log into my old account, so it seems all good. Didn't test all the call features.
[00:50] <heller_> hey guys, fresh install of ubuntu 18 server. any tips to make it take less than 5G of drive space by default?
[00:53] <squidthesid> Hi guys, is anyone having an issue trying to login with LUKS? It's stopped on cryptsetup and won
[00:53] <squidthesid> t go into the login menu
[00:54] <leonardus> error: This revision of snap "android-studio" was published using classic confinement and thus may perform arbitrary system changes outside of the security sandbox that snaps are usually confined to, which may put your system at risk. If you understand and want to proceed repeat the command including --classic.
[00:54] <leonardus> is is safe to use --classic?
[00:57] <OerHeks> leonardus, yes, you can check on the snapcraft.io page for all versions
[00:57] <squidthesid> Okay, my other drive boots up just fine, not sure what happened to my first one
[01:02] <Gerowen> Are there any 32 bit ISOs for Ubuntu 18.04 or 18.10?  I have an x86 tablet PC that has a 64 bit CPU, but a 32bit UEFI.  I had Debian running on it once before, but would like to use Ubuntu if possible.
[01:02] <OerHeks> xubuntu gives i386 isos
[01:03] <thaurwylth> This will also be the last time that 32b Xubuntu is available, at least I'm under that impression.
[01:03] <Gerowen> I noticed that mate did as well.  One of the lighter distros might be better anyway because this tablet only has like 2GB of RAM I think.
[01:04] <Gerowen> I mainly got it because it was cheap and thought it would be nice to have a tiny full blown PC with detachable keyboard.
[01:04] <OerHeks> you might find a 32 bit uefi hack, but then some hardware does not work properly, stuff like that
[01:05] <johnfg> hi folks
[01:05] <johnfg> I think I found the source of the errant group error message that sudo -i gives.
[01:06] <Gerowen> I guess if I want to see how Gnome 3 runs I could just install ubuntu-desktop after it's up and running.
[01:06] <johnfg> I thought that reinstalling the system took care of the problem, but it didn't.
[01:07] <johnfg> The problem, and it seems to be confined to ubuntu, for sure not on my debian boxes.
[01:08] <OerHeks> let me guess: you set rootpassword
[01:08] <johnfg> The culprit is libpam-afs-session.
[01:09] <johnfg> OerHeks: No, I learned that lesson.
[01:09] <johnfg> But as I kept adding to this new system, to get it back to the state I wanted, I found that the libpam-afs-session is the problem.
[01:10] <tomreyn> !info libpam-afs-session
[01:11] <tomreyn> universe -> community support, possibly imported from debian.
[01:11] <johnfg> On my debian boxes, both running stretch, I have this, and don't get the error.
[01:11] <johnfg> For now, I'll just leave it, and do aklog manually to get my token for my afs space.
[01:12] <tomreyn> use "ubuntu-bug libpam-afs-session" to file a bug report against it if there is one which wasnt reported, yet
[01:13] <johnfg> tomreyn: doing that now.  I'm glad I at least narrowed down what the problem, or where the problem is.
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> heller_: That all depends on what you need installed on your server. Are you using the Ubuntu Server install image. Also, there is not "Ubuntu 18" ... There is "Ubuntu 18.04", "Ubuntu 18.10" and there is a big difference between the two
[01:16] <OerHeks> less than 5gb .. remove swapfile
[01:25] <johnfg> I just realized that vino is already installed, a vnc server for ubuntu 18.04.  I'm on the machine via ssh.  Is there a way I can start it remotely?
[01:26] <johnfg> Should gsettings be run as user or with sudo?
[01:32] <johnfg>  /usr/lib/vino/vino-server doesn't work from the cli.  It comes back with: Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused Cannot open display:
[01:32] <pragmaticenigma> johnfg: in settings, find remote desktop
[01:32] <johnfg> pragmaticenigma: I'm on that machine via ssh.
[01:32] <pragmaticenigma> vino, requires an active desktop session
[01:33] <pragmaticenigma> and needs to be launched within that session to aquire a special token to interact with the desktop
[01:33] <johnfg> pragmaticenigma: Should I uninstall vino if I were going to do x11vnc instead, which doesn't have the limitations?
[01:34] <pragmaticenigma> johnfg: x11vnc has the same limitation... if you're using it under a headless instance, it works because of the way launch into said virtual desktop session
[01:35] <pragmaticenigma> johnfg: or effectively, x11vnc can start a virtual X session
[01:36] <pragmaticenigma> johnfg: Unless vino is causing you great distress, I would just leave it be... unless it's being used, it's not going to hurt anything
[01:58] <kidscomputer> Clarissa
[02:03] <Bilbo0> I am confused, so testdisk sees the name of a bunch of files in a directory that mysteriously disappeared, but when I try to restore said files with extundelete, it can't do it. How can testdisk see files that did exist but supposedly don't now?
[02:07] <ducasse> Bilbo0: consider those files gone and move on
[02:09] <Bilbo0> ducasse: What reason would testdisk see files that can't be recovered?
[02:10] <ducasse> Bilbo0: i don't know, but at this point you probably need a professional data recovery specialist
[02:17] <_david_sohonet> Has anyone found issues net-installing Xenial recently? I've noticed there is a new version of the 4.4.0 kernel available and I'm wondering if that's related. 4.4.0-142 is the netboot kernel available but the installer tried to install 4.4.0-143
[02:18] <_david_sohonet> Mar 16 01:20:12 in-target: /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-4.4.0-143-generic.postinst: 50: /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-4.4.0-143-generic.postinst:
[02:18] <_david_sohonet> Mar 16 01:20:12 in-target: linux-update-symlinks: not found
[02:18] <_david_sohonet> Mar 16 01:20:12 in-target: dpkg: error processing package linux-image-4.4.0-143-generic (--configure):
[02:18] <_david_sohonet> Mar 16 01:20:12 in-target:  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[02:18] <_david_sohonet> Are the errors in syslog during the install
[02:18] <pragmaticenigma> !paste | _david_sohonet
[02:20] <pragmaticenigma> _david_sohonet: Another person had a similar issue today... are you using preseed?
[02:20] <_david_sohonet> pragmaticenigma: yeah
[02:21] <pragmaticenigma> Include this line in preseed: d-i base-installer/kernel/image string linux-image-4.4.0-142-generic
[02:21] <_david_sohonet> I'll try. thank you pragmaticenigma !
[02:22] <pragmaticenigma> _david_sohonet: I wish I could take credit, just passing on what worked for another person
[02:26] <_david_sohonet> here goes nothing...
[02:26] <pikapika> Hi
[02:26] <pikapika> Anyone here who upgraded from 16 to 18?
[02:27] <pikapika> Did themes break and font rendering become, fucking ATROCIOUS for anyone else all of a sudden after the upgrade?
[02:27] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | pikapika
[02:27] <tomreyn> and please watch the language.
[02:27] <pikapika> 16.04 lts to 18.04 lts
[02:28] <pikapika> Hmm, some fonts don't look too different...maybe its a change in the default monospaced font?
[02:28] <tomreyn> discuss the issues you're seeing, one by one, provide context (hardware, drivers, desktop environment, special configurations)
[02:29] <pikapika> Hmm, how do I give those details? I mean I have no idea
[02:29] <tomreyn> you don't know which hardware you have there? or how to describe the issues you're seeing?
[02:30] <pikapika> the latter I can do, the former only high level desc, I don't know how to state the exact graphics driver version etc
[02:30] <pikapika> Let me start with the visible things
[02:30] <pikapika> Fonts suddenly seem very pixelly
[02:30] <pikapika> and
[02:30] <pikapika> The theme basically broke
[02:31] <pikapika> whisker menu elements suddenly have background colors
[02:31] <pikapika> when they had none
[02:31] <tomreyn> to get the graphics card: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[02:31] <pikapika> and other controls like buttons etc didn't have any backgrounds
[02:31] <pikapika> and menu items are squashed together suddenly
[02:31] <tomreyn> whisker menu is some alternative menu for xfce.
[02:32] <pikapika> "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] [8086:1916] (rev 07)
[02:32] <pikapika> "
[02:32] <pikapika> Well of course
[02:32] <tomreyn> that's apparently a customization you did which should be pointed out.
[02:32] <pikapika> Its xubuntu desktop I am using
[02:33] <tomreyn> maybe ask in #xubuntu
[02:33] <pikapika> ok
[02:36] <pikapika> But yes tomreyn the whisker menu was just an example
[02:36] <pikapika> Buttons, slider bars, etc everythings suddenly broken after the upgrade
[02:37] <pikapika> Am using a diff theme right now
[02:38] <tomreyn> pikapika: did you read the releas enotes? maybe there's something relevant in there.
[02:38] <pikapika> Let me see
[02:39] <tomreyn> also make sure you got all old PPA packages downgraded to ubuntu versions (or upgraded to the current releases' PPA versions), and any untracked packages purged.
[02:40] <pikapika> oh theres def some "dead" ppas in there, need to prune those
[02:40] <tomreyn> i remember reports about blurry fonts after upgrading from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS if you have kde installed in addition to gnome-shell (default desktop). not sure this is related, though.
[02:40] <pikapika> Oh
[02:41] <pikapika> I only had xfce before the upgrade, and I believe the upgrade added gnome
[02:41] <pikapika> or rather added back in a sense
[02:41] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: The upgrade tool does not install desktop environments that weren't there to begin with
[02:42] <pikapika> Didn't 16 come with gnome by default?
[02:42] <pikapika> I had the normal ubuntu, not xubuntu.
[02:42] <pikapika> I just added xubuntu along with gnome desktop
[02:42] <pikapika> and later deleted gnome because I never used it
[02:42] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: As was already mentioned (and you've been told repeatedly) there is no Ubuntu 16
[02:42] <pikapika> 16.04
[02:43] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: what do you mean by "added xubuntu" ?
[02:43] <_david_sohonet> Thank you. I was able to install Ubuntu 16.04 with the preseed explicit kernel version reference.
[02:43] <pikapika> the package 'xubuntu-desktop'
[02:43] <pragmaticenigma> _david_sohonet: Sweet! glad that did the trick
[02:44] <tomreyn> _david_sohonet: i recommend you look for an existing bug report, and, should there be none. file one, if you'd like to see this fixed.
[02:44] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: so you started with "Ubuntu" and then installed the xubuntu-desktop package? is that right?
[02:44] <_david_sohonet> tomreyn: you betcha
[02:45] <pikapika> Yes pragmaticenigma
[02:46] <pragmaticenigma> So then it would appear that your system may fall under the scenario that tomreyn was speaking about? If so, go and look at the bug report that was posted... see if any of the suggestions there work for you
[02:47] <pikapika> uh, which bug report?
[02:47] <pragmaticenigma> I guess tomreyn didn't post a bug link...
[02:47] <tomreyn> i did not, just repeated this from memory. i don't know the bug report
[02:47] <tomreyn> but i think there is one
[02:49] <pikapika> I found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype/+bug/1722508/comments/36
[02:49] <pikapika> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype/+bug/1722508
[02:49] <pikapika> sorry
[02:49] <conjo> hi all i have a GA-870A-UD3 (gigabyte) motherboard and there seems to be a recurring problem with my usb on the front of the tower not working (only 1 of two stops working) is there a way of seeing what the problem is from terminal without pulling the cmos battery and selecting default config when prompted)
[02:50] <conjo> only when using ubuntu
[02:50] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: you can monitor syslog or checkout journalctl to see if there are any related messages about the port
[02:51] <conjo> if i pull the battery and select default settings for bios it works but every now and then it stops working and i would like to be able to fix it from terminal not by opening the case and pulling a battery every time
[02:51] <conjo> pragmaticenigma, how would i wipe anything stored in the log for the port please
[02:52] <conjo> so i have a clean slate to look for information/setting changes
[02:52] <tomreyn> !artful | pikapika
[02:52] <tomreyn> but there is also bug 1769132
[02:53] <tomreyn> not sure this is the one i had in mind
[02:55] <pikapika> also what is it with these bug reports and dead links for the example images
[02:55] <tomreyn> conjo: you shouldn
[02:56] <tomreyn> 't wipe logs, instead you should use their timestamps and limit log out put to what you need.
[02:56] <tomreyn> see: journalctl --help
[02:57] <conjo> okay thanks tomreyn-am viewing from logviewer
[02:58] <conjo> one question i am looking at a log and i can see and entry "Watching system buttons on /dev/input/event2 (MOSART Semi. 2.4G RF Keyboard & Mouse)
[02:58] <conjo> its all foregn
[02:58] <conjo> its all foreign to me but just wanted to ask this isnt a keylogger is it lols
[02:58] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: Do you have a wireless keyboard and/or mouse
[02:59] <conjo> i do
[02:59] <pragmaticenigma> What do you think 2.4G RF Keybaord & Mouse means?
[02:59] <conjo> the word watching caught me though =)
[03:00] <pragmaticenigma> It's probably not the best term, but it is likely based in long established parlance from many years gone by
[03:01] <conjo> =) thanks for skooling me i always learn something here and i love it thanks to all
[03:09] <pikapika> also
[03:10] <pikapika> Where's the docs for the theming as in the syntax and meaning of the various files within the theme folder in /usr/themes or ~/.themes? I wish to make some manual changes to what I have currently.
[03:10] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: that is a topic that isn't support related... customizations are something you have to research on your own
[03:10] <pikapika> Alright
[03:10] <pikapika> Thanks for the help
[03:17] <conjo> im planning on installing ubuntu mate on my laptop and i would like to check the laptops cpu; if its 32 or 64bit is uname -m the correct command to do this guys
[03:19] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: nope
[03:19] <pragmaticenigma> uname merely tells you what is already installed... you would have to know the CPU archetecture to know if you have a 32 bit or 64 bit system
[03:20] <conjo> can i check that from a terminal command
[03:21] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: "less /proc/cpuinfo" will tell you the CPU model... from there you can search to see if it is 32 or 64 bit
[03:24] <conjo> its a Toshiba satellite i3, specs page i found with google it says its a 64bit so ill give that version a try
[03:24] <conjo> L850
[03:24] <pragmaticenigma> The intel i series processors , far as I know, are all 64 bit
[03:25] <conjo> thank you
[03:29] <_david_sohonet> Xenial network boot issues ( linux-generic package failure ) logged at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1820366
[03:32] <pragmaticenigma> sweet _david_sohonet
[03:36] <conjo> how would i make network manager go down and then back up again-when my pc is woken up from sleep mode the network connection is lost so i can logout and login or restart but id like to take down the service and put it back up in terminal if possible please
[03:38] <conjo> i cant quite recall what i used in past tried sudo services NetworkManager down (fail) can anyone help me remember correctly pls
[03:39] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[03:41] <mnathani> why did ubuntu switch to netplan?
[03:41] <conjo> 	Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[03:41] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: System services are managed with "systemctl" now
[03:41] <Speed_> How can I troubleshoot my WiFi? I can’t connect my laptop running 18.04, it was working earlyer today
[03:41] <conjo> okay
[03:41] <pragmaticenigma> mnathani: That isn't a topic for the support channel. Feel free to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[03:41] <conjo> thanks
[03:42] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: for network manager "sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager"
[03:42] <mnathani> pragmaticenigma: Thanks
[03:43] <pragmaticenigma> Speed_: Does it work after a reboot?
[03:43] <conjo> pragmaticenigma, prolly going offline =)
[03:43] <Speed_> Rebooting my laptop?
[03:43] <pragmaticenigma> Speed_: that's typcially what is meant by reboot
[03:44] <Speed_> I wasn’t sure you meant my laptop or the router. Rebooting now
[03:47] <Speed_> pragmaticenigma: activation of network failed
[03:47] <pragmaticenigma> Speed_: what did you chance since the time it was working earlier?
[03:48] <Speed_> I plugged in my iPhone and a raspberry pi to a couple of the USB ports
[03:50] <pragmaticenigma> Speed_: You plugged your Raspberry Pi to a couple ports how?
[03:53] <Speed_> Just one, I mean a couplle one for phone one for pi
[03:54] <pragmaticenigma> Speed_: how though... were you trying to power the pi ?
[03:54] <Speed_> Yes
[03:55] <pragmaticenigma> Speed_: So the big USB plug when to the computer, little one went to the micro port on the pi?
[03:56] <Speed_> Yes
[03:57] <pragmaticenigma> Speed_: are you using a USB wifi dongle?
[03:59] <Speed_> No
[04:00] <pragmaticenigma> Speed_: Is this a dual boot computer? does the wifi work in Windows, or from a Live USB boot?
[04:01] <conjo> pragmaticenigma, so i used the command and it worked...but the network icon had a cross on it as if disconnected, so i pinged google (worked fine) and opened a firefox window and searched for news (worked), whats with the icon not updating after the sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager, not essential but im so curious
[04:01] <Speed_> I don’t have windows on the machine
[04:02] <conjo> i gave it about 2mins wait time
[04:02] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: I'm not certain... I've had the same behavior before. NetworkManager is just a layer on top of the actual networking... it's merely a manager for the underlaying system
[04:03] <Speed_> pragmaticenigma I can connect with my phone and ping my desktop pc and I get responces
[04:03] <pragmaticenigma> Speed_: Try it with it a live image then, I'm concerned that attempting to power the rpi might have damaged something. the raspberry pi requires 2 amps to function, USB on computers typically only allows 0.5 amps... that kind of demand could have burned something out
[04:04] <conjo> pragmaticenigma, got ya- layer is this what is known as a frontend? eg like ufw to iptables (just trying to learn)
[04:04] <gambl0re> does anyone know any recommended email forwarding web services?
[04:05] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: yes, that's basically what it is. NetworkManager is used as a front end to manage the network in Desktop Ubuntu. netplan is used for Server/GUI-less installs
[04:05] <conjo> cool
[04:05] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: Recommendations and polls are not a support related topic. Please ask those in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:06] <gambl0re> pragmaticenigma, what?
[04:06] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: This is a support channel for Ubuntu OS
[04:06] <gambl0re> pragmaticenigma, oh ok
[04:20] <conjo> hello-could s1 please give me some examples of front-end & back-end in ubuntu 18.04 to crystallise  my understanding of the concept?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> elaborate your issue conjo
[04:21] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: A frontend means something that has an interactive component... backend means something that uses pre-configured settings to carry out it's operation
[04:22] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: A frontend can be used to create/modify the configuration of a backend component, as well as the frontend can trigger the backend to perform certain tasks
[04:22] <conjo> great stuff =)
[04:23] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: that is just a high level explination of one type of frontend/backend systems
[04:24] <conjo> okay
[04:25] <Gerowen> Here's one example, let's say you have some command line tool with lots of options, say mupen64plus (a Nintendo 64 emulator).  By itself, it's command line only.  However, there are a lot of "frontend" applications that provide a different, often more user friendly way to interface with the backend software by making certain assumptions, providing a graphical user interface, etc.  Mupen64plus is still what's "actually" doing the work in the background,
[04:25] <Gerowen> but the frontend is some other program that collects information from the user and then passes that information to mupen64plus so that you don't have to use the command line yourself.
[04:25] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: A real world example of another instance is e-mail. Think of GMail from google. You access it's front end, where you see your e-mail, send, etc. That frontend talks to a backend, an application that holds all that data the frontend needs to display. The backend continuously runs whether you are logged in or not, so that your e-mails can keep being received etc.
[04:26] <conjo> dude just answered my next question lol and i was going to use retroarch and libcor as example lols thats crazy
[04:26] <conjo> you guys are both awesome thanks
[04:28] <conjo> really appreciate the varied examples
[04:28] <conjo> i feel like am really 'getting' it
[04:29] <Eickmeyer> In Ubuntu Studio, we have a front-end to the Jack Audio Connection Kit called Ubuntu Studio Controls. It is the front-end to the back-end audio server configuration.
[04:29] <pragmaticenigma> conjo: pretty good article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_and_back_ends
[04:29] <conjo> =) pragmaticenigma
[04:40] <conjo> does anyone know of a python3 help channel that works like this #ubuntu channel works (im learning absolute beginner no prior experience programming, other than a few commands in bash)? please
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> conjo: there is #programming if you like
[04:41] <conjo> cheers
[04:42] <krytarik> conjo: Or in fact, #python.
[04:42] <conjo> dble cheers
[04:46] <conjo> great recommendations thanks lotuspsychje  and krytarik
[04:46] <krytarik> Sure.
[04:53] <espBerry> how can i install apache?
[04:53] <espBerry> server?
[04:53] <espBerry> No one is here?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !patience | espBerry
[04:55] <espBerry> :P
[04:55] <krytarik> espBerry: "sudo apt install apache2"
[04:56] <espBerry> apache2? there is no 3?
[04:57] <krytarik> Not according to the topic of #httpd.
[05:08] <sheng_> hello
[05:08] <sheng_> I love ubuntu
[05:08] <sheng_> and i am a child
[05:08] <espBerry> how can i unzip zip file?
[05:09] <sheng_> you can use tar
[05:10] <espBerry> i have zip file now
[05:10] <espBerry> ShellcatZero1:
[05:10] <espBerry> sheng_: and are you chinese?
[05:10] <sheng_> yes
[05:11] <espBerry> me too
[05:12] <espBerry> where do you live?
[05:12] <espBerry> 8)
[05:12] <sheng_> i live in beijing
[05:12] <espBerry> i m pretty chinese girl
[05:12] <espBerry> lol me too
[05:12] <espBerry> can we meet?
[05:12] <sheng_> yes
[05:12] <espBerry> in the beijing?
[05:12] <espBerry> 8)
[05:13] <sheng_> but i am a student
[05:13] <espBerry> i m 13 years old
[05:13] <sheng_> i study in 海淀外国语
[05:13] <espBerry> what programming language can you do?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> !ot | espBerry sheng_
[05:13] <sheng_> c++，lua
[05:14] <espBerry> wo si jong gua
[05:14] <espBerry> ah
[05:14] <espBerry> great can you teach me?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> stop it please espBerry
[05:14] <sheng_> yes
[05:14] <espBerry> :|
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> this is the ubuntu support channel, no chatting here please
[05:15] <espBerry> ok
[05:17] <espBerry> how can i move all file and directory that include subdirectory to other directory?
[05:17] <espBerry> help me
[05:18] <sheng_> use mv
[05:18] <espBerry> there is a directory that have subdirectory
[05:18] <espBerry> :(
[05:18] <espBerry> so it is difficult
[05:18] <espBerry> :(
[05:19] <espBerry> sheng_: ?
[05:22] <sheng_> 文件夹后面加/×
[05:23] <sheng_> 代表移动整个文件夹
[05:23] <espBerry> we are same chinese you must help me 8)
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !zh | sheng_
[05:23] <sheng_> ok
[05:25] <espBerry> 哥哥 sheng_:
[05:26] <sheng_> like this：mv /home/× /var
[05:26] <espBerry> how can i install php on ubuntu?
[05:27] <sheng_> SORRY
[05:27] <sheng_> I DONNOT KNOW
[05:27] <espBerry> i think that ‘mv /home /var’ is correct?
[05:27] <espBerry> i don’t know why there is x?
[05:27] <sheng_> this is a star
[05:28] <espBerry> star?
[05:28] <sheng_> yes
[05:28] <espBerry> x?
[05:28] <sheng_> full of all
[05:28] <espBerry> x is start?
[05:28] <espBerry> star?
[05:28] <espBerry> ah perhaps *?
[05:28] <sheng_> star
[05:28] <espBerry> instead of x
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !ops | sheng_ espBerry trolling
[05:28] <sheng_> yes
[05:29] <espBerry> thanks
[05:29] <espBerry> we are chinese
[05:29] <espBerry> china great again 8)
[05:30] <sheng_> we are the world
[05:30] <sheng_> we are family
[05:30] <espBerry> anyway lua is easy to learn?
[05:30] <espBerry> yeah because we are chinese
[05:30] <espBerry> 8)
[05:31] <sheng_> very easy
[05:31] <espBerry> how about comparing it with python?
[05:33] <espBerry> anyway no one know how installing php on ubuntu?
[05:33] <sheng_> i do not know
[05:36] <CoolerX> hey
[05:37] <CoolerX> I am trying to use virtualbox but I am getting this error https://imgur.com/vV49Rmi
[05:41] <CarlFK> CoolerX: try asking in  /j #vbox
[05:47] <CoolerX> fixed it nvm
[06:09] <anibic> Why my 17" monitor is treated as 15" in 18.10
[06:10] <jcb2016> hello im looking for a upgraded version of a package. im on 18.04 bionic the upgraded version isn't in backports either how do i fix this? im looking for weechat
[06:10] <anibic> I am using Nouveau driver.
[06:11] <anibic> But display is OK.
[06:15] <jcb2016> i thought backports have all the new software?
[06:17] <guiverc> anibic, I don't know why, but it could be your monitor reports wrongly (or vagely), `xdpyinfo` or `xrandr` may provide more details of what can be displayed (mainly resolutions supported by monitor).   I've had two 17" crt's that reported as 15" but that was long ago
[06:17] <krytarik> jcb2016: Only if you're lucky.  Use the instructions on their website instead.
[06:17] <guiverc> !latest jcb2016
[06:17] <guiverc> !latest |jcb2016
[06:18] <jcb2016> krytarik so if i want the latest of something i go to the devlopers website to get instructions?
[06:18] <krytarik> jcb2016: Yep, I use their repo too.
[06:18] <jcb2016> oh ok
[06:20] <jcb2016> another question. i just installed mate desktop and i don't see it on gdm drop down menu any ideas?
[06:22] <guiverc> jcb2016, you may need to restart your gdm3 if just installed (or just reboot); I suspect gdm is using details it read on boot/startup
[06:22] <jcb2016> ok
[06:26] <jcb2016> so im assuming that when you use a devs repos you add them to sources.list right?
[06:30] <jcb2016> krytarik i just put in the bionic url in sources.list and it needs a public key. am i doing someting wrong?
[06:31] <jcb2016> i just installed ubuntu like 5 mins ago. coming from debian and archlinux
[07:33] <lola> busco amistades manden priv y asi
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> !english | lola
[07:45] <isomari> my libreoffice 6.1.5 shows "/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/oosplash: error while loading shared libraries: libuno_sal.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when executed.
[07:46] <isomari> libuno_sal.so.3 is installed
[07:47] <maret> Hi eveyone, I am thinkgin about upgrading kernel on ubuntu 18.04 to something higher. Not sure if its safe though
[07:47] <maret> reason I am doing this (and this might not help) is because my HP wireless keyboard doesnt work  now and I hope newer kernel might  help
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | maret
[07:50] <maret> lotuspsychje: what about ukuu
[07:55] <maret> i went through kernel release notes and didnf find a mentiond of my keyboard so I don't think it's worth it :/
[07:55] <maret> fck really didng expect cheap hp keyboard to have an issues in 2019
[07:59] <Ben64> maret: what keyboard, and what issues
[08:23] <maret> Hi, does any one know why my wireless keyboard works without problem in bios but doesnt work in Ubuntu ? -_-
[08:23] <Ben64> maret: what keyboard, and what issues
[08:25] <maret> its hp wireless 600, and keys doesnt work at all, media keys do work but nothing else. There is a project which is trying to address this https://github.com/JohnJohanssonChalmers/hp_wireless_keyboard and actually kind of helps but its buggy
[08:27] <maret> stuff like this makes me wanna switch to OSX fck. Seems like I will have to return the keyboard
[08:29] <Ben64> sounds like a bad keyboard
[08:32] <maret> Ben64: given that keyboards works in osx, windows and even bios I dont think keyboard is the issue
[08:33] <Ben64> i don't mean it's defective, i mean bad design
[08:34] <maret> one againt given it works everywhere from get go but linux , keyboard design isnt the issue
[08:34] <Ben64> sure it is
[08:34] <maret> heh ok
[08:34] <Ben64> if it presented itself as a keyboard, like every other keyboard does, it'd work
[08:36] <maret> funny it seems to be presenting it self as keyboard to bios, windows and osx
[08:37] <Ben64> you don't know that
[08:37] <maret> nvm this wont help my problem anyway, thanks for the time though
[08:37] <Ben64> cool, have a good one
[08:45] <maret> Base64 btw it was reported as a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1771431
[08:46] <lafiza> how can I setup a capslock-indicator on mate 18.04?
[08:55] <maret> Ben64: btw it was reported as a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1771431
[08:58] <Ben64> maret: check #11
[08:59] <ellyacht> someone tell me how to get gnome-keyring to pop up when I launch chromium again please
[08:59] <ellyacht> will someone* please
[09:04] <lafiza> ellyacht, why you need that?
[09:05] <ilias_gr> hi all. I am running xubuntu 18.04.6 and i lost the sound. I did sudo alsa force-reload && sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-base pulseaudio && sudo apt-get install alsa-base pulseaudio and when i reboot i still have no sound and the icon was disappeared from task bar. Any help please?
[09:06] <ellyacht> because when I installed chromium and launched it I wasn't paying attention and when it prop,pted me for a keyriugn I clicked cancel several times and now I can;'t get it back up so that I can actually enter a password
[09:08] <isomari> my libreoffice 6.1.5 shows "/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/oosplash: error while loading shared libraries: libuno_sal.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when executed. libuni_sal.so.3 is installed.
[09:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:19] <acresearch> people is it possible to install an older kernel on ubuntu?
[10:19] <conjo> wsup homes
[10:23] <conjo> acresearch, yes, so long as you have the iso img with the kernel you want to install on it, i would assume yeah its possible whether the iso is online with the kernel you want is another matter (dont take my word for it but i beleive to be accurate)
[10:24] <acresearch> conjo: interesting, where can i find old linux kernels?
[10:25] <conjo> and if you have updated to a newer kernel and you with to download to a lower kernel then boot into grub and select the kernel you with to revert too
[10:25] <acresearch> conjo: sounds complicated, is there a tutorial i can watch or read on how to do this?
[10:26] <conjo> typo with = wish
[10:26] <conjo> hang on
[10:26] <EriC^^> acresearch: it's easy, reboot, hold shift, when you get grub go to advanced > choose older kernel number
[10:27] <conjo> yups
[10:31] <acresearch> EriC^^: ok, but how to install an older kernel from iso? when i find the ios
[10:31] <acresearch> EriC^^: conjo i found this: http://linuxlookup.com/linux_iso
[10:32] <EriC^^> acresearch: are you installing ubuntu on another PC?
[10:32] <acresearch> EriC^^: i will be yes, i have a small laptop that i will install ubuntu on it, and try to have it work with an older kernel to compile binaries on it
[10:33] <EriC^^> !customlivecd | acresearch
[10:35] <acresearch> is there a spesific name for the kernel 2.6?  i can't seem to find the iso
[10:36]  * RtMF|afk offtopically giggles at having worked with admimistering a network on cisco::ios, writing a skeleton app to play around with the pre-apple toolchain for apple::ios, and having also assembled an iso just before the everex linux based netbooks had to go out the door, not sure quite why but it was the same boxes I had to build a daemon that read evdev and wrote pmu regs via ioperm() to toggle wifi
[10:36]  * RtMF|afk power.  i now wonder if dsdt hacking would have been a better option.
[10:36] <acresearch> i can't install the kernel from apt?
[10:37] <conjo> EriC^^ is lucid correct and will this help acresearch, https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:37] <conjo> acresearch, i think lucid is the name your looking for
[10:37] <CoolerX> hey
[10:37] <acresearch> ok
[10:37] <CoolerX> where is sendfd for ubuntu 14.04's documentation?
[10:38] <cdfsan> como instalar novo firefox
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !es | cdfsan
[10:39] <conjo> acresearch, if your already running linux or windows i would try what you want to acheive on an VM(virtual machine) first, if you wreck everything its all good
[10:39] <acresearch> conjo: I don't have enough processing power for a VM unfortunatly
[10:39] <conjo> bugger
[10:40] <acresearch> conjo: how do i download this?  https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.32-lucid/
[10:40] <conjo> are you using gui or terminal
[10:41] <acresearch> conjo: i can use both, i am on ubuntu
[10:41] <acresearch> conjo: though i prefear the terminal
[10:42] <conjo> what architecture
[10:42] <acresearch> 64
[10:44] <acresearch> conjo:   kernel 2.6.32-358.23.2.el6.x86_64  to be exact
[10:44] <conjo> i would assume you click on the image you desire with amd64 in the name
[10:45] <acresearch> conjo: they are all directories
[10:45] <acresearch> and i click them i get other files inside,   when i wget it won't download the directory
[10:46] <jeremy31> a 6 year old Red Hat kernel?
[10:46] <acresearch> jeremy31: yes !!!!   i can't do anything on it
[10:46] <conjo> when i click on linux-image... it asks me to save or open with software
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> jeremy31: trolls all morning
[10:47] <acresearch> conjo: image? i only have directories
[10:47] <CoolerX> where is sendfd for ubuntu 14.04's documentation?
[10:48] <jeremy31> conjo, sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.  You would likely need to install alien to install a rpm file
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> CoolerX: what are you planning to do, 14.04 goes eol soon
[10:50] <conjo> do you see a screen like mine with the linux-image... , in the beginning of the name  https://imgur.com/bkwa5fD
[10:51] <conjo> jeremy31 can you assist acresearch im a little over my head re kernel installations apart from grub gui lols
[10:52] <jeremy31> conjo, I see nothing good coming from a 6 year old kernel
[10:52] <conjo> yeah but he/she prolly wants old software to have a little more life
[10:53] <conjo> or to do a project
[10:53] <conjo> no?
[10:53] <conjo> i agree re such an old kernel
[10:53] <conjo> acresearch, what do you want to achieve
[10:54] <conjo> is there a better way to do it with a more recent kernel
[10:54] <conjo> ask here
[10:54] <conjo> typo old hardware
[10:54] <acresearch> conjo: so i need to compile code to be used on a supercomputer that uses the old kernel, the only i can acheive that is to install a linux distro with an old kernel and compile my code there, then upload it to the supercomputer
[10:55] <jeremy31> acresearch: so you are trying to use Ubuntu to compile code to use on a Red Hat machine?
[10:56] <acresearch> jeremy31: yes, do i have another choice?
[10:57] <jeremy31> acresearch: Possibly run the same OS in a VM in Ubuntu?
[10:57] <acresearch> jeremy31:  with an old kernel?   i am not sure how to install red hat with an old kernel
[10:59] <jeremy31> acresearch: If you have rpm files with the kernel, you could use those
[10:59] <guiverc> acresearch, fyi: centos 6 (still supported) runs 2.6.32  -- but it's off-topic here
[11:08] <Anywhere> hey, is it possible to side grade from 18.10 to 18.04?
[11:09] <guiverc> Anywhere, apt/dpkg tools are written to go to a later version, so no.   You could install 18.04 (something else & no format your partitions) where it'd take note of your installed apps, erase your system dirs, install, then re-add (ubuntu repo) programs you added to your system, then ask reboot.  backup of course first.
[11:10] <Anywhere> guiverc: yea, I figured but had to check. Thanks!
[11:11] <acresearch> ][{{{{{[[-[11:11] <acresearch> ]\'
[12:00] <dynamicspirit> hello
[12:00] <dynamicspirit> hello guys
[12:00] <conjo> dynamicspirit, hello
[12:00] <jeremy31> dynamicspirit: If you have a support question, just ask
[12:01] <dynamicspirit> yup ]
[12:01] <dynamicspirit> can i create my private server
[12:02] <conjo> https://www.expressvpn.com/blog/how-to-make-a-small-server-for-your-home/
[12:03] <dynamicspirit> ads
[12:03] <dynamicspirit> hello
[12:03] <dynamicspirit> guys
[12:03] <dynamicspirit> asd
[12:03] <dynamicspirit> sad
[12:03] <dynamicspirit> sad
[12:03] <dynamicspirit> sa
[12:13] <CoolerX> how do you get cat to display file in ascii ?
[12:14] <CoolerX> or at least display escaped chars as code
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> CoolerX: maybe thats more something for ##linux
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> CoolerX: we try to focus on actual ubuntu issues here
[12:50] <satanist|hell> hi, is there a way to overwrite/add some config for the pam-configs without changing /etc/pam.d and /usr/share/pam-configs?
[12:54] <satanist|hell> i.e. i want to disable libpam-gnome-keyring but can't uninstall it because I want to keep gnome
[13:09] <d3fkon> Hey guys
[13:19] <vassie> Hello, I have an issue with my Ubuntu server that I am struggling to solve regarding the "Enter" key on my new laptop. Under Fedora pressing Ctrl+V then Enter shows ^M, however on my Ubuntu server it produces a new line, this is causing issues when trying to use VIM, how can I set Ubuntu to be the same a Fedora? Thanks
[13:22] <tomreyn> vassie: it's helpful to always mention the ubuntu version you are inquiring about.
[13:23] <tomreyn> i just tried what you said on an ubuntu 18.04 *desktop* (gnome-shell, gnome-terminal) and there pressing ctrl-v followed by enter, does print ^M on screen
[13:24] <vassie> tomreyn: Sorry, server is 18.04.2
[13:24] <vassie> Clean install this morning
[13:24] <vassie> When using VIM pressing enter produces M
[13:25] <vassie> But then I cannot exit VIM but using Esc, :wq
[13:25] <tomreyn> and you want this, or not?
[13:25] <vassie> no
[13:25] <tomreyn> that's in vim edit mode or?
[13:26] <vassie> it happens outside VIM too, if I enter byobu-config, then pick an option, pressing enter quits the program
[13:27] <tomreyn> on a tty on ubuntu server 18.04.2 amd64, pressing ctrl-v, then pressing enter, prints ^M on screen for me.
[13:28] <tomreyn> this is not running the latest kernel version, though. is yours fully patched?
[13:28] <vassie> yes, clean install this morning and fully up to date
[13:30] <tomreyn> so can you confirm that on a tty, pressing ctrl-v, then pressing enter, does not prints ^M on screen for you? that's the first test case you provided which i am currently testing.
[13:30] <tomreyn> vassie: ^ also, if you think one of the other tests you mentioned would be better, please state which.
[13:30] <vassie> tomreyn: That's correct, it produces a new line
[13:31] <tomreyn> vassie: hmm not on this system i'm testing on
[13:32] <tomreyn> which is a VM, uefi booted
[13:32] <tomreyn> vassie: can you show: cat /proc/{version,cmdline}
[13:32] <tomreyn> and please test this outside of temrinal multiplexers
[13:33] <vassie> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AhWdoYCm/
[13:33] <tomreyn> okay, same config here. hmm.
[13:34] <jeremy31> does ctrl +v ctrl + m work?
[13:34] <vassie> jeremy31: that show's ^M
[13:35] <tomreyn> the system i'm testing on was installed using the 18.04.1 installer. but i wouldn't expect this to make a difference.
[13:36] <tomreyn> vassie: so you also see this happen outside of terminal multiplexers?
[13:36] <vassie> I only have SSH access to this server right now
[13:36] <tomreyn> okay, but you're not running byobu, tmux, screen?
[13:36] <vassie> I'm running byobu
[13:36] <vassie> it's the same without
[13:37] <tomreyn> ok
[13:37] <tomreyn> i don't actually know what the expected behaviour is there.
[13:38] <vassie> ctrl+M and enter should be the same
[13:38] <vassie> they are on my Fedora laptop
[13:38] <vassie> and on my Pi, just not on my Ubuntu server
[13:39] <tomreyn> i can type on vim in edit mode just fine, can press ctrl-M and press enter in vim edit mode and it prints a blue (special / control character) ^M on screen.
[13:40] <tomreyn> so something is different with your system apparently. i'd say file a bug, work it out from there.
[13:40] <tomreyn> i can comment on it, and test with a fresh 18.04.2 later.
[13:42] <vassie> tomreyn: thanks
[13:43] <tomreyn> you're welcome. i'll be afk for now. if you'll file a bug, please post its url here so i can take a look later.
[14:17] <monkeyboy537> hello
[14:44] <tomreyn> vassie: did you report a bug (or find an existing bug report), yet?
[14:56] <ahoo> hi
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> hello ahoo
[15:15] <ahoo> hi all
[15:16] <ahoo> where are you
[15:18] <OerHeks> !ask
[15:27] <pikapika> Anyways
[15:27] <pikapika> I got my thinking in order finally
[15:27] <pikapika> and the conclusion I can draw is, yes
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | pikapika
[15:27] <Vuurdraak> hi everybody did anybody noticed that the latest kernel 143 , has effectively killed all nvidia drivers appart from 384.130 on 16.04 lts ?
[15:28] <OerHeks> Vuurdraak, and how did you install nvidia?
[15:28] <pikapika> The fonts looking trash part definitely boils down to the issue of some change in the font rendering engine. I mean, the bug report I linked before says the same thing. Also, currently investigating why is it that themes which worked perfectly before in 16.04 are now all wonky in 18.04.
[15:28] <Vuurdraak> through the 'drivers' pannel and later by hand
[15:28] <pikapika> I will try downgrading freetype and see if it works
[15:28] <Vuurdraak> i tried out all drivers untill the last remaining one worked
[15:28] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: which kernel version exactly? 4.4?
[15:28] <OerHeks> .. later by hand, o gosh .,. time to do that again
[15:29] <Vuurdraak> yes <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:29] <Vuurdraak> or somethinglike that
[15:29] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: try linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04
[15:29] <leftyfb> that will give you the latest 4.15 kernel
[15:29] <OerHeks> if you would have used the driver menu, after a kernel update it would reinstall again, by the dkms module
[15:29] <Vuurdraak> is that the kernel tree from 18.04 lts ?
[15:29] <ilias_gr> hi all. My system lost xubuntu session option and is logging only on a xfce session. How can I restore xubuntu session?
[15:29] <pikapika> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype/+bug/1722508
[15:29] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: it's the latest 16.04 LTS kernel
[15:30] <leftyfb> !hwe | Vuurdraak
[15:30] <Vuurdraak> i upgraded  a few weeks ago from 14.04, so am i using a different xenial kernel because of that ?
[15:31] <Vuurdraak> i go take a look thanks
[15:31] <pikapika> What's the freetype version in use in 16.04, and how does one downgrade to that version in 18.04? Do I need to manually compile and install? How'd I suppress the system version and force it to use the one I built?
[15:32] <hggdh> Vuurdraak: <IP_ADDRESS> has had an ABI bump. That means all third-party kernel modules must be re-compiled against the new kernel
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: You can't downgrade
[15:32] <OerHeks> pikapika, you could find this easily ..https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype
[15:33] <Vuurdraak> hggdh, ah i guess the other drivers are from the extra ppa, and 384 is the main ubuntu nvidia driver
[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: you can't downgrade, source compiling is not supported here, and you will have to refer to the documentation on the project page of freetype for assistance in implementation
[15:33] <leftyfb> hggdh: shouldn't dkms take care of that?
[15:34] <hggdh> leftyfb: for modules that deploy it, yes. Not sure this is the case here
[15:34] <pikapika> Oh of course, there's probably no "official" means provided in apt to do so. I was just wondering if I could suppress that version, build my own of the specific freetype version I want and force the system to use that. But I think you seem to say this question is not fit for asking here or am I reading it wrong.
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: Did you read my entire statement?
[15:35] <pikapika> I guess, that the question I asked isn't suitable for asking here? Alright I get that. Does freetype have a support channel on this network?
[15:36] <OerHeks> !alis
[15:36] <Vuurdraak> leftyfb & hggdh thanks i installed the 4.15.0-46 kernel & 415 nvidia driver, going down for reboot hopefully it works again :D
[15:37] <hggdh> pikapika: you can use alis to search for it: /msg alis list *freetype*
[15:37] <ilias_gr> any help?
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freetype
[15:39] <hggdh> ilias_gr: you need to ask your question first :-)
[15:39] <pragmaticenigma> hggdh: they asked at 29 min past the hour
[15:40] <leftyfb> ilias_gr: xubuntu = xfce
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> ilias_gr: Computer's don't just lose things, what was the last thing you did before the session preferences were lost?
[15:42] <ilias_gr> hggdh: I mentioned above that my system (xubuntu 16.04.6) cannot log in a xubuntu session and it log in only a xfce session. Is there any way to fix this?
[15:42] <leftyfb> ilias_gr: xubuntu = xfce
[15:42] <OerHeks> ilias_gr, the option to choose, appears when you click the username
[15:42] <OerHeks> i find this very confusing too
[15:43] <ilias_gr> pragmaticeningma: i did an routine update
[15:43] <leftyfb> ilias_gr: The fact that you see "XFCE session" means "Xubuntu session". They are the same thing
[15:44] <ilias_gr> leftyfb: not exactly !
[15:44] <ilias_gr> OerHeks: At log in screen appears only Xfce session option. Not Xubuntu session !
[15:44] <leftyfb> ilias_gr: xubuntu is the Ubuntu distribution with the default DE being XFCE
[15:46] <OerHeks> !info xfce4
[15:46] <ilias_gr> leftyfb: It is not. The system under xfce session was on different configuration and I realized I was no in Xubuntu sesion running $ echo DESKTOP_SESSION.
[15:47] <OerHeks> not sure why it would not appear, are you sure you clicked the username first? then it would appear, no?
[15:47] <leftyfb> ilias_gr: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[15:48] <Vuurdraak> okay so the 4.15 kernel creates even more problems :( it doesn't like any of the driver packages including nouveau
[15:48] <Vuurdraak> how can i tell ubuntu to use 4.4 again ?
[15:49] <OerHeks> hold shift @ boot, choose 4.x
[15:49] <Vuurdraak> as i did: "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04" to try to remove the 4.15 kernel, but i guess i need to reinstall the 4.4 one somehow
[15:50] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: no, the 4.4 kernel should have been kep
[15:50] <leftyfb> kept
[15:50] <Vuurdraak> its there but not automaticly starting now
[15:50] <Vuurdraak> the 4.15 is somehow still to main kernel
[15:50] <OerHeks> some nvidia cards need nomodeset to run properly
[15:50] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: do you have the linux-headers-generic-hwe-16.04 package installed?
[15:50] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: and linux-modules-4.15.0-46-generic
[15:50] <leftyfb> those might help
[15:51] <Vuurdraak> strangely enough nouveau is also not working for me on the 4.15 kernel
[15:51] <ilias_gr> I have two pc running in front of me. Both have Xubuntu. the one has the oprion of both sessions. the other only Xfce option because it lost suddenly the Xubuntu session. Xubuntu is not exactly Xfce. It is based on it but is a different session. That is the reason for example Sound Sttings does not work clicking on sound indicator panel although pavucontrol is installed and can be loaded from terminal. Any idea ?
[15:51] <ilias_gr> leftyfb: XFCE
[15:51] <leftyfb> ilias_gr: maybe try #xubuntu ?
[15:52] <Vuurdraak> leftyfb lol why doesnt tab work on ur name xD, i did an" sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04  , to get the 4.15 kernel and then simply did a remove
[15:52] <Vuurdraak> should i say purge ?
[15:53] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: I think you should focus on getting the latest hwe kernel working, but sure, you can purge it if you like
[15:53] <ilias_gr> Oerherks: It appears only Xfce option in logging screen
[15:54] <OerHeks> hmm then xfce4 changes displaymanager too?
[15:55] <Vuurdraak> leftyfb, im guessing the driver packages wil get updated over time, im happythat at least the 384 driver works properly with <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:56] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:57] <ilias_gr> Oerherks: I realized that I am in a different session because I saw some differences in my system's configuration (appeareance, fonts etc) and that I couldn't open Sound Settings through Sound indicator in panel.
[15:58] <ilias_gr> Oerherks: The I read that pavucontrol cannot open from sound indicator if the system isn't running in a Xubuntu session
[15:59] <Vuurdraak> leftyfb, thanks yeh i had that already installed
[16:00] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: then you shouldn't still be using 384
[16:00] <OerHeks> ilias_gr, never knew mixing ubuntu and xfce gives such issues, reask in #xubuntu perhaps?
[16:00] <Vuurdraak> strange still how no driver seemed to work with 4.15
[16:00] <OerHeks> c/xubuntu
[16:00] <Vuurdraak> i was on 415 with kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:00] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: tried 390?
[16:00] <Vuurdraak> but they no longer work idk why
[16:00] <Vuurdraak> yep all of them
[16:00] <Vuurdraak> untill i ended with the lowest available 384
[16:01] <Vuurdraak> luckely that worked
[16:01] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: you tried them all running the latest 4.15 kernel?
[16:01] <Vuurdraak> no
[16:01] <Vuurdraak> only 415
[16:01] <Vuurdraak> and 384
[16:01] <Vuurdraak> and nouveau
[16:01] <Vuurdraak> all dont work properly
[16:01] <Vuurdraak> at least not with the 4.15 kernel
[16:02] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: define "don't work properly". Lets stick with troubleshooting on 4.15 and the 415 driver. What happens?
[16:02] <Vuurdraak> i have no clue whats going wrong, i get a login screen and when i login it goes back to the login screen
[16:03] <Vuurdraak> i tried to read syslog but i see so many erros i dont get it
[16:03] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: ok, this is where we need to troubleshoot. Can you get back to this state with 4.15 and 415?
[16:03] <Vuurdraak> i could in theory yes
[16:03] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: lets do that
[16:04] <Vuurdraak> leftyfb, what would you like me to get/do when i would do that ? copy syslog ?
[16:05] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: ~/.xsession-errors
[16:06] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: that's the log we need to look at
[16:06] <Vuurdraak> where do i find that log its in var/log ?
[16:06] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: ~/.xsession-errors
[16:07] <Vuurdraak> thats my home dir right ?
[16:08] <leftyfb> yes
[16:08] <Vuurdraak> i dont have such a directory
[16:08] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: .xsession-errors is a file in your home directory ( ~/ )
[16:08] <Vuurdraak> ah lol sorry got it :D
[16:11] <Vuurdraak> i think it actualy already goes wrong while installing the driver
[16:11] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: pastebin the errors please
[16:12] <Vuurdraak> cause when i get back to a working condition, i get error reports that the driver didnt instal properly
[16:12] <Vuurdraak> atm i dont get erros
[16:12] <wordhacker> hi
[16:12] <Vuurdraak> only after boot, and then when i get back to a working x
[16:12] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: I thought you said it won't boot into the desktop after logging in?
[16:12] <Vuurdraak> i go boot to 4.15 + 415 driver, copy the xsession error log and come back
[16:13] <Vuurdraak> brb
[16:13] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: hole on
[16:13] <leftyfb> hold*
[16:13] <wordhacker> i want to change the ubuntu boot logo but it does'not for me czn you help me
[16:13] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: I  would suggest purging nivida* before reinstalling 415
[16:13] <Vuurdraak> yes i dont get in to the desktop when it goes wrong, i get stuck on the login screen
[16:13] <Vuurdraak> okay
[16:13] <wordhacker> i want to change the ubuntu boot logo but it does'not for me can you help me
[16:15] <tomreyn> not if you quit instantly, no.
[16:15] <Vuurdraak> leftyfb, Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-143-generic (x86_64)
[16:15] <Vuurdraak> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-415/415.27/build/make.log for more information.
[16:16] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: when doing what?
[16:16] <Vuurdraak> when installing 415
[16:16] <Vuurdraak> in the terminal
[16:16] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: did you purge nividia-*
[16:16] <Vuurdraak> yes
[16:17] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: ok, can you pastebin /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-415/415.27/build/make.log
[16:17] <Vuurdraak> i did a sudo apt-get install nvidia-415 after that
[16:17] <Vuurdraak> k
[16:18] <Vuurdraak> https://pastebin.com/zEQwLjM4
[16:20] <tomreyn> line 201 contains the error
[16:20] <tomreyn> please use paste.ubuntu.com in the future
[16:21] <Vuurdraak> okay
[16:22] <tomreyn> see bug 1573508
[16:23] <Vuurdraak> funny thing is with the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel the only working nvidia driver is 384 , when i install the 4.15 no driver works anymore (altthough it might be a different bug)
[16:24] <Vuurdraak> <IP_ADDRESS> all drivers worked fine
[16:24] <leftyfb> tomreyn: that says the fix was released yesterday for all the older drivers, no 415
[16:25] <leftyfb> tomreyn: and no reference to the 4.15 kernel either
[16:25] <Vuurdraak> im guessing its a bug that i cant do nothing about other then atm use the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel with the 384 nvidia driver i guess ?
[16:25] <leftyfb> Vuurdraak: to be clear, you can still go back to the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[16:26] <tomreyn> leftyfb: you're right, a new bug report seems neccessary there.
[16:26] <Vuurdraak> true but the 384 driver is okay, it has NVENC wich i use in OBS
[16:28] <Vuurdraak> i just keep using 384 untill stuff is resolved , i think it might be better then using older kernels although an older driver might have security issues too that i dont know about theoreticly
[16:28] <tomreyn> leftyfb: actually there is no nvidia-graphics-drivers-415 in xenial, so i guess no bug report will be possible.
[16:28] <tomreyn> i didn't follow your full conversation
[16:28] <leftyfb> tomreyn: ah right. It's in the PPA
[16:28] <Vuurdraak> i was using 415 with the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel before its in the extra graphics ppa
[16:29] <tomreyn> you could report it in #ubuntu-x then
[16:29] <Vuurdraak> or u mean its not in the main standard driver thingy no
[16:29] <Vuurdraak> its in the extra driver ppa
[16:30] <Vuurdraak> okay i will report it there
[16:30] <tomreyn> Vuurdraak: on your ubuntu release, which seems to be 16.04 LTS, nvidia-graphics-drivers-415 does not exist as an official package, just in a PPA
[16:30] <Vuurdraak> yes true
[16:32] <heller_> hey guys, where does zabbix keep hosts and templates?
[16:32] <leftyfb> heller_: try #zabbix
[16:32] <heller_> wondering about transferring zabbix to newer server
[16:32] <heller_> oops
[16:32] <heller_> :)
[16:32] <leftyfb> heller_: or read it's documentation
[16:33] <Vuurdraak> thanks for trying to help by the way :)
[16:34] <docter> hello
[16:34] <docter> anyone here?
[16:34] <Vuurdraak> no sorry we are all gone
[16:35] <Vuurdraak> just ask a question , and if anybody knows an anwser they will say it
[17:29] <popnfloss> is there a way to disable the overlay scrollbars in bionic
[17:29] <popnfloss> export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 doesnt work
[17:30] <OerHeks> that might need logout/login again
[17:30] <popnfloss> i did that
[17:31] <popnfloss> GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 is in /etc/environment
[17:31] <popnfloss> i can see it in printenv in a terminal
[17:31] <popnfloss> im not sure why or how ubuntu ignores that variable, it doesnt do it in fedora
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> popnfloss: You might need to disable them in dconf
[17:34] <OerHeks> echo "GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0" | sudo tee -a /etc/environment #should work after logout/login
[17:35] <pragmaticenigma> according to this article there are some CSS changes needed to make it work: https://askubuntu.com/a/1016846
[17:36] <popnfloss> theres no settings in dconf about overlay scrollbars anymore
[17:36] <popnfloss> that was unity
[17:36] <pragmaticenigma> popnfloss: https://askubuntu.com/a/1016846
[17:43] <popnfloss> is there an up-to-date yaru and suru theme for 18.04
[17:44] <popnfloss> i see theres a snap and a ppa for it
[17:44] <popnfloss> but idk which one is more up-to-date
[17:45] <popnfloss> im just gonna use the yaru theme since this old one has these awful scrollbars
[17:46] <OerHeks> https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru .. i think the snap gives the latest?
[17:46] <pragmaticenigma> OerHeks: already left...
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> after snap install brave on 18.04.2 i was able to launch it once, now the icon doesnt anymore. from terminal still works. snap bug or ubuntu bug? https://hastebin.com/iyepufiyal.cs
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> I call snap bug
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> pragmaticenigma: didnt we have users with similar issues not being able to launch icon?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> on other snaps that is
[17:51] <pragmaticenigma> The error message appears to imply that an AppArmor policy is preventing something
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> lemme check permissions on software
[17:51] <tonyt> any know how to get usb tether working in ubuntu18.04? what app needs to be installed on the android device? and what needs to be done in ubuntu?
[17:52] <Fuchs> it should work out of the box
[17:52] <ducasse> tonyt: nothing needs to be installed on the android device
[17:53] <xamithan> the android device needs to be in tether mode,  that's it
[17:53] <ducasse> tonyt: and your pc should just connect
[17:53] <Fuchs> android supports usb tethering out of the box unless your manufacturer decided to disable it. The Linux part needs a kernel module, but ubuntu has it
[17:53] <tonyt> k. for some reason it isnt working
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> pragmaticenigma: it just got weirder, from software i can launch it, icon not
[17:54] <pragmaticenigma> what's in the .desktop file for the app?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[17:59] <tanja77> hello. I have ubuntu 18.04 and an nvidia 1050ti with driver version 418. but I got no opencl support. How can I fix this?
[18:06] <ioria> !info ocl-icd-libopencl1
[18:10] <coventry> Does ubuntu's openssl still use OpenSSL for the backend? Or libreSSL or BoringSSL? Or is that whole issue regarded as sorted out now?
[18:10] <OerHeks> openssl it is
[18:10] <coventry> Thanks.
[18:12] <tomreyn> what is "that whole issue"?
[18:13] <coventry> The drama with heartbleed and a general perception of careless development practices in OpenSSL, back around 2014.
[18:16] <tomreyn> heartbleed is fixed in all implementations, and i think it was in all of them soon after it was reported. afaik openssl still carries a lot (some would say too much) of backward compatibility around.
[18:16] <OerHeks> "general perception" .. interesting
[18:17] <coventry> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreSSL#History
[18:18] <tomreyn> maybe that's a topic for #ubuntu-discuss, or -offtopic
[18:18] <OerHeks> please take it to discussc, libressl is not in our repos
[18:18] <coventry> Apologies, no derail intended.
[19:24] <pikapika> Which pip do we use for user projects?
[19:25] <pikapika> I am certain the pip that Ubuntu supplies already isn't supposed to be touched by us
[19:41] <OerHeks> pikapika,  what do you mean with that?
[19:44] <pikapika> I hope this font issue is officially fixed soon
[19:51] <ahmedeng> Hi
[19:52] <OerHeks> :-)
[19:52] <deepend> hey, i edited my /etc/network/interfaces dns server entry and did a ifdown && ifup and now my interface isn't working at all?
[19:53] <deepend> so i tried a doing ip addr flush && systemctl restart networking
[19:53] <deepend> still not working
[19:53] <deepend> any ideas? i changed my config back even
[19:53] <OerHeks> deepend, more info please, what ubuntu version?
[19:53] <deepend> 16.04
[19:53] <deepend> server
[19:55] <deepend> i don't see any errors in the networking server, last message is something about bringing up interfaces
[19:55] <deepend> service*
[19:58] <OerHeks> create a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail and add them there, and run sudo resolvconf -u
[20:23] <deepend> still can't get this server online, even tried reconfiguring it as dhcp
[20:25] <ioria> a server with dhcp sounds like a bad idea
[20:26] <deepend> it's normally static
[20:26] <ioria> i see
[20:26] <deepend> but i can't get any config to work
[20:26] <deepend> no idea what's going on here i've never run into this before
[20:26] <ioria> guess why
[20:26] <Bashing-om> deepend: symlink still in-place ' ls -l /etc/resolv.conf ' ?
[20:27] <deepend> let me go check. would that stop the interface from coming back up and being able to ping the gateway by addr?
[20:28] <ioria> deepend, what will stop the interface ?
[20:29] <deepend> yes still appears to exist Bashing-om
[20:29] <deepend> ioria: what do you mean?
[20:29] <ioria> deepend, paste the output
[20:29] <deepend> of?
[20:30] <ioria> deepend, maybe the Bashing-om cmd ?
[20:30] <deepend> uhh it's linked to some systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf I believe
[20:30] <deepend> i can't easily copy paste from this server cause it isn't online..
[20:30] <ioria> deepend, on xenial 16.04 ?
[20:31] <deepend> yeah 16.04
[20:31] <ioria> no way
[20:35] <Bashing-om> deepend: On 16,04 I would expect something like: /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[20:37] <ioria> right
[20:37] <OerHeks> i gave: create a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail and add them there, and run sudo resolvconf -u
[20:39] <xfceone> ethtool force 1000 not working
[20:40] <OerHeks> xfceone, what is the full command you tried? and what linux version?
[20:41] <xfceone> 18.04
[20:42] <deepend> Bashing-om: yes that's what it says exactly
[20:42] <deepend> OerHeks: you think that will make a difference when I never had that before and now I can't get any traffic to work on the interface at all?
[20:42] <deepend> doesn't seem like a dns issue
[20:42] <xfceone> one minute
[20:49] <r710_user> excuse me, I am attempting to install ubuntu 18.04.2 server onto a Dell r710. I have a Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 card which is not being loaded properly because direct firmware load is failing at boot. Any idea of how to get the installer iso to load this firmware?
[20:52] <ioria> r710_user, only a speculation :  set            if_bce_load="YES" in the kernel parameter
[20:53] <OerHeks> yes, reading that too .. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man4/bce.4freebsd.html
[20:56] <xfceone> ethtool -s en*** speed 1000 duplex full
[20:57] <xfceone> hp 250 G5 laptop, 1 Gb/s port
[20:58] <OerHeks> try with autoneg off, else change cable
[20:59] <xfceone> I used cat5 and cat6 autonet off command not working
[20:59] <xfceone> can be only 100 port?
[21:00] <super_koza> Hi guys! Could you help me out with my SSH problem? I can't reach my PC via domain name, but I can reach it via IP address... I use freeDNS for dynamic DNS. It used to work, but something happened, and now it doesn't work. However, I can reach services hosted on the PC via domain name. The system I am using is Ubuntu Server 18.04. Any idea how to debug this?
[21:00] <xfceone> with ethtool say that can 1000
[21:06] <xfceone> cannot set new settings: Invalid arguments not setting autoneg
[21:08] <xfceone> ethtool en****
[21:08] <leftyfb> super_koza: Are you trying to contact the domain remotely or from within your network? Can you confirm that the dyndns domain points to the same ip you're using that you say works?
[21:08] <xfceone> Supported link modes: 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
[21:09] <super_koza> leftyfb: I am trying to connect from the internet. I tested with the IP address that is listed in the freeDNS.
[21:10] <leftyfb> super_koza: is this the same connection you're connected to IRC with?
[21:10] <super_koza> Yes.
[21:11] <super_koza> Give me a sec.
[21:11] <xfceone> ethtool -s en**** speed 1000 duplex full  RJ-45 blinks
[21:11] <leftyfb> !paste | xfceone
[21:12] <xfceone> ok but it is something with the driver?
[21:12] <super_koza> leftyfb: So, I tried pinging my server with the domain name, but it used the wrong IP address.
[21:13] <super_koza> How is this possible?
[21:13] <leftyfb> super_koza: could be lots of things. Care to share the domain here?
[21:14] <super_koza> Sure.
[21:14] <super_koza> I've sent it to you... :)
[21:15] <leftyfb> super_koza: the ip of that domain does not point to your isp
[21:15] <leftyfb> super_koza: you'll have to see support from your dyndns/domain provider
[21:15] <leftyfb> seek*
[21:15] <super_koza> Wait a second...
[21:15] <deepend> huh, so I guess the source of my problem was not software config, but a hardware issue
[21:16] <deepend> thanks for the help anyway guys
[21:16] <super_koza> How do you mean that the IP of the domain doesn't point to my ISP?
[21:16] <leftyfb> super_koza: it's not pointing to the ip you're connected to IRC with
[21:17] <leftyfb> super_koza: though, it does have ssh listening
[21:17] <super_koza> leftyfb: Oh that, well I said I am remote currently.
[21:17] <leftyfb> I take that back, it's filtered, not open
[21:17] <leftyfb> super_koza: ok, well, the ip that domain is pointed to does not have ssh open on port 22
[21:18] <super_koza> Not using port 22.
[21:18] <leftyfb> super_koza: It's not open on your other port either
[21:18] <Cursarion> hi, umm, I just installed LTS 18 over LTS 16 and there seems to be an issue with networking. something's getting stuck, like web browser isn't reaching anything, nor is a ping from terminal
[21:19] <Cursarion> but at the same time an earlier browser window with twitch is showing a stream with no problem
[21:20] <super_koza> leftyfb: It must be.
[21:20] <Cursarion> disabling and re-enabling the wired connection helps, but it's not something I'd like to do every five minutes. Nothing appeared to be in logs based on a quick glance o_o
[21:20] <leftyfb> super_koza: it's not
[21:20] <super_koza> Which IP do you get back when you ping the domain?
[21:21] <super_koza> I connected to it just now with the IP address listed in the freeDNS.
[21:22] <leftyfb> super_koza: please contact your domain/dyndns provider for support. Your domain is not pointing to the correct ip address
[21:26] <daleko3454> I am new to linux and i am trying to get a touchscreen working in ubuntu
[21:26] <xfceone> autoneg off or on?
[21:27] <daleko3454> what is autoneg?
[21:27] <daleko3454> i am very new
[21:27] <xfceone> something about network speed
[21:28] <Bashing-om> !who | daleko3454 : You will learn :)
[21:28] <super_koza> leftyfb: Thanks for helping me debug the problem! :)
[21:29] <jeremy31> daleko3454: autoneg is a network setting for ethernet devices, nothing to do with touchscreen
[21:31] <lordl> Does pavlos still use this channel?
[21:31] <leftyfb> lordl: This is a support channel. Do you need help with support?
[21:31] <daleko3454> i am using a hp envy laptop, AH0003na. I found this git of someone achieving wat i want to achieve. As i am new, i do not understand it.
[21:31] <lordl> leftyfb, well, not really.
[21:31] <daleko3454> https://github.com/dmoisset/hp-envy13
[21:31] <lordl> I just wanted to know if he still comes here.
[21:32] <lordl> Sorry for the off-topic question.
[21:32] <leftyfb> lordl: that's offtopic. Feel free to ask for Ubuntu support.
[21:32] <lordl> Yeah, mate.
[21:32] <lordl> I've got nothing more to say. Bye!
[21:34] <daleko3454> can someone help me?
[21:37] <daleko3454> i am trying to get a touchscreen to work on ubuntu
[21:43] <aldcor> Hi! I am on ubuntu 18.04. I cant see LAN players and they cant see me if I make a server. Is it port problem? How to resolve this?
[21:45] <leftyfb> aldcor: what exactly are you talking about?
[21:49] <aldcor> oh, I am talking about cs 1.6 game
[21:49] <leftyfb> aldcor: in wine or steam?
[21:49] <aldcor> steam
[21:49] <leftyfb> aldcor: ok, please seek support from #steam
[21:49] <aldcor> invite only channel..
[21:49] <leftyfb> aldcor: try ##steam
[21:50] <leftyfb> aldcor: or their forums or find out what support options they have through their website
[22:00] <daleko3454> I need help getting a touchscreen working on ubuntu
[22:01] <Bashing-om> daleko3454: Tell the channel what release you are on, please.
[22:01] <daleko3454> ubuntu 18.04
[22:04] <OerHeks> your url https://github.com/dmoisset/hp-envy13 talks about recompiling acpi, is this a very new laptop?
[22:05] <daleko3454> oerheks, yes it is very new
[22:06] <leftyfb> recompiling acpi??? Not worth it
[22:06] <leftyfb> daleko3454: do you really need a 15" smartphone?
[22:07] <daleko3454> haha. i do need the touchscreen, it is so useful and really speeds tasks up for me
[22:08] <leftyfb> daleko3454: what sort of tasks?
[22:09] <daleko3454> just general use of the laptop. i also find trackpads really annoying to use.
[22:09] <daleko3454> i use a normal mouse at a desk but i am not always at a desk
[22:11] <OerHeks> amd ryzen, ultra hd screen .. wait for proper support?
[22:12] <daleko3454> i have not got amd ryzen or ultra hd display
[22:14] <daleko3454> why is recompiling the acpi not worth it? i have nothing to lose if i do it. i can just reinstall the distro if i screw it up
[22:15] <leftyfb> daleko3454: ok, good luck. Only official packages are supported here.
[22:16] <daleko3454> can you guide me
[22:16] <daleko3454> ?
[22:17] <leftyfb> daleko3454: negative. I have no experience with touchscreens on laptops other than immediately disabling them in the BIOS since they cause more problems then they worth. Not to mention, compiling my own acpi sounds like something I would only do if I had a really bad grudge against myself
[22:19] <daleko3454> what about with the help of that linon github?k
[22:19] <OerHeks> i read those instructions, but are incomplete, good luck!
[22:20] <daleko3454> do you think it is possible at all to get my touchscreen working other than recompiling the acpu?
[22:20] <leftyfb> daleko3454: feel free to contact the author of the github project
[22:21] <daleko3454> i will do that
[22:21] <daleko3454> but is their any other way?
[22:22] <OerHeks> you could put this issue on askubuntu ...
[22:23] <daleko3454> Thank you. OerHeks and leftyfb, you have been very helpful
[23:07] <Zorin_Server> Hey
[23:16] <Zorin_Server> what is everyone up to today
[23:17] <OerHeks> hi Zorin_Server, some are waiting for an ubuntu support issue, not zorin ofcourse
[23:17] <Zorin_Server> yh i know
[23:18] <Zorin_Server> i have been using ubuntu for a few years
[23:18] <Zorin_Server> just testing waters with other distros
[23:19] <Zorin_Server> yh dw im not in the wrong place
[23:23] <H1P7F9bM54oc81D5> This is the Official Channel Right?
[23:24] <j0seph> H1P7F9bM54oc81D5, official ubuntu support channel, yup.
[23:24] <H1P7F9bM54oc81D5> good
[23:24] <H1P7F9bM54oc81D5> i can give my knowledge out
[23:24] <H1P7F9bM54oc81D5> Welcome carif!
[23:36] <igoryonya> Hello, I have an ubuntu server 18.04 LTS. It has one problem on cli.
[23:36] <igoryonya> Often the command output doesn't move the previous contents up, but owerwrite it partially and partially moving it up
[23:37] <igoryonya> , so it all get's mixed up and pretty much unreadable.
[23:37] <igoryonya> I have other installations on other computers, but they don't have a such problem
[23:37] <igoryonya> How to fix it?
[23:38] <emanuel> Hello. I have a HP 4200 printer that I want to connect using a USB to Parallel adapter. My Ubuntu system will not see the printer. I saw a post at https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/62523/how-to-install-a-printer-that-is-connected-via-an-usb-to-parallel-port-adapter with some tips but I don't really understand it. Would someone help me? I am using Ubuntu 16.04
[23:41] <Plumette> motus
[23:49] <barni> hey eveyone
[23:49] <tonyt> hi
[23:49] <barni> where are the girls
[23:50] <Tin_man> barni, this is Ubuntu Support, NOT Girls are us..... go to a social channel..
[23:50] <barni> germAN
[23:50] <tonyt> dont think females use linux and irc
[23:51] <H1P7F9bM54oc81D5> tonyt - hahaha i can name a few
[23:51] <barni> OK
[23:52]  * tonyt hasnt come any yet :)
[23:52] <compdoc> thats sad to hear
[23:52] <tonyt> guess time to change the topic though


[16:23] <chris78v> hello
[16:23] <chris78v> i need support, can anybody help me ?
[16:23] <LaserJock> chris78v: what's your problem, perhaps somebody can
[16:24] <chris78v> ok i can not get my screen to fit,, its off center
[16:25] <chris78v> i am using my tv as my monitor and have only encountered this problem when doing so
[16:25] <chris78v> i am a very new user to ubuntu
[16:27] <LaserJock> well, this is not a very good channel for you
[16:28] <LaserJock> chris78v: have you tried the #ubuntu channel, that's a much better support channel