[00:54] <n9sgg> join #linux
[00:54] <n9sgg> join #linux
[00:55] <n9sgg> join /#linux
[00:55] <sarnold> try /join  instead
[00:55] <n9sgg> thank you
[02:12] <darth_tux> hey I have a problem mono-complete is installed yet when I cli wine blah.exe it tells me mono is not installed. Any ideas?
[02:19] <sarnold> darth_tux: try running 'mono' on its own -- does it give any output?
[02:25] <tomreyn> darth_tux: mono is a way to run .NET applications natively on ubuntu. wine is an emulation for running unmodified windows applications on linux. you can run .NET applications using wine, but you'll need to use the original .NET framework distribution (targeting windows) for that
[02:42] <darth_tux> tomreyn: thanks and sorry for my confusion it just keeps saying mono isnt install at cli with wine yet guild wars like always works like a beast
[02:47] <tomreyn> darth_tux: i really prefer not to go down the wine (or, less so, but still, mono) rabbit hole. if you want to run windows games on ubuntu without virtualization, your best options are probably lutris or steam.
[02:47] <tomreyn> but i would not expect that anyone here would want to support setting those up or solving remaining issues
[02:47] <darth_tux> OK Steam went quack so ill try lutris and its for one game that can run on a toaster Bones Undergroud a friend wants to play with me
[02:48] <darth_tux> nah id do it on my own just didnt know where to start
[02:51] <darth_tux> tomreyn: thanks for all your help I am a real noob with wine things
[02:51] <tomreyn> so am i ;)
[02:53] <tomreyn> i said wine was an emulator. it's not, more like a (limited) compatibility layer.
[03:11] <darth_tux> tomreyn: OK that makes more sense yet Guild Wars flawless a game that I can run on my vape goes quack
[03:13] <tomreyn> i don't think i can help there
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> darth_tux: try playonlinux and proton maybe?
[03:16] <darth_tux> proton no playonlinux yes
[08:46] <cesarIFCT> hola buenas
[08:46] <lotuspsychj3> !es | cesarIFCT
[09:27] <DoctorCat92> hi
[09:27] <DoctorCat92> Привет
[09:27] <DoctorCat92> есть русские?)
[09:57] <elias_a> Ні. Тільки українці.
[09:57] <Habbie> !english
[10:00] <elias_a> A general remark - given the present Russian aggression going on in Ukraine, I personally have obstacles in supporting any Russian national without knowledge of his/her attitude to the aggression.
[10:01] <elias_a> If this is against the policy of this channel, I will be glad to jump off.
[10:04] <Znevna> you're the one writing in cyrillic
[10:18] <cats3d> I use OpenSCAD that uses Scintilla as an editor, and there's crazy keyboard lag there, I don't have it anywhere else (emacs, firefox, terminal). Is there something I can check or do about it?
[11:16] <robottidude> hello there
[11:16] <robottidude> I was there yesterday
[11:19] <robottidude> my problem was with keyboard
[11:19] <robottidude> and no working cursor keys
[11:20] <robottidude> it seems to be badly designed hardware and that why it does not work with linux.
[12:01] <chilversc> This is interesting, I have a service where the init.d script disagrees with systemd. The daemon no longer exists, but its pid file still remains, I suspect it crashed. Running "systemctl status cachefilesd" shows "Active: active (exited)", instead of some sort of failed state, while "SYSTEMCTL_SKIP_REDIRECT=1 /etc/init.d/cachefilesd status" shows "* Checking status of FilesCache daemon cachefilesd
[12:01] <chilversc> [fail]"
[12:10] <chilversc> How do I get the source code for a specific package that belongs to a different Ubuntu release?
[12:11] <chilversc> Specifically I want to get the source for cachefilesd 0.10.10-0.2ubuntu1 amd64 on Ubuntu 22.04.1
[12:12] <raub> So I seem to have a clippie-like "paste multiline text" thingie in my ubuntu desktop which keeps asking "do you really want to paste this?" every time I try to paste something. WTF is it so I can uninstall the damn thing?
[12:12] <chilversc> I can never figure out how to navigate launchpad to download the source for a specific version of something (including Ubuntu's additional patches)
[12:34] <Lope2> hey guys, I installed https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04.5/ubuntu-20.04.5-live-server-amd64.iso in a VM. I unchecked the LVM install option and proceeded.
[12:34] <Lope2> the ubuntu install it has done is messed up in 2 ways.
[12:35] <Lope2> /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.list.d were completely empty.
[12:35] <Lope2> /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ubuntu-keyring-2018-archive.gpg was also completely empty.
[12:36] <Lope2> How can it be so broken?
[12:37] <binboupan> Did you have working internet during the setup? I suppose they could be empty if it can't fetch them
[12:37] <binboupan> also iirc sources.list.d is supposed to be empty unless you have 3rd party repositories
[12:37] <Lope2> hmm, yeah there was no DHCP internet during the setup.
[12:38] <Lope2> I could reinstall with internet.
[12:38] <gogofc_> Yeah reinstall with Internet
[12:38] <binboupan> You could try that!
[12:38] <Lope2> Thanks dudes. Will do.
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:54] <Lope2> gogofc_, binboupan reinstalling with internet access from the get-go via DHCP (not manual IP entry) gave me a working installation.
[12:55] <binboupan> Lope2: That's great.
[13:04] <FKAShinobi> I am reading that I need to add x-gvfs-show to the mount options in fstab in order for the filesystem to show in Gnome tools. Yet, my existing entries don't have this and I see them in Gnome just fine. Is this outdated info?
[13:20] <bello> hello people.
[13:20] <Alexey_> Hi!
[13:21] <Alexey_> 🍺
[13:21] <binboupan> hiya
[13:21] <Alexey_> ой иди нахуй а?!
[13:22] <Alexey_> ой.. сорри
[13:22] <hiya> sup BinarySavior
[13:22] <hiya> binboupan:
[13:23] <binboupan> haha sorry for mentioning you hiya :(
[13:23] <bello> i had installed Ubuntu 20.4.1 lts template or iso on my vps.  it shows me upgrade notice for Ubuntu 22.4 lts. should i use another template or iso to upgrade ? how to upgrade without lose current things ?
[13:23] <hiya> hehe binboupan
[13:23] <Alexey_> https://dchub.one
[13:23] <Alexey_> look
[13:26] <bello> if i use iso or template OS , should upgrade process different ? or same as normal?
[13:28] <binboupan> bello: normal
[13:29] <bello> it shows Ubuntu 22.04.1 lts available.  run `do-release -upgrade` command.  but my vps installed as 20.04.4 lts from iso or template some years ago.  Can i run this upgrade command safely now ?
[13:30] <binboupan> yes
[13:30] <luka_> hi
[13:30] <bello> binboupan my OS will continue to be iso or template still if i will upgrade by this command?
[13:31] <binboupan> bello: template is just the base image, it works like a normal server, so yes, just run do-release -upgrade
[13:35] <bello> binboupan i choose before iso or template because my vps provider makes some ready pre configurations in it. so that i didn't have to be busy with all of these configurations myself.  they will be deleted and i will need to configure everything myself from zero after run upgrade command now ? that's why i scared and wanted to ask here.  :)
[13:36] <gonix> there is no risk doing a direct upgrade from 20.x to 22.x?
[13:37] <gonix> i think you could loose some apps sometimes if they aren't packaged or things like that, i had such a situation. but since its a server its a bit different i guess.
[13:38] <binboupan> bello: no, there is no risk
[13:39] <bello> gonix i don't know.  i thought maybe i will lose somethings because i used preconfigured iso or template.  so i decided to ask here
[13:39] <bello> binboupan: ok thank you
[13:40] <bello> binboupan: my OS will continue to be template or iso ? or its status will be changed after command upgrade ?
[13:42] <binboupan> bello: your "template" stopped being a template after installation, so neither
[13:44] <bello> binboupan: ah i didn't know it. :)
[13:45] <bello> binboupan: is there another way to upgrade besides this command?
[13:47] <binboupan> bello: I dont think there are other supported ways to do so, I guess you could edit your repositories manually, etc, but it could break your configuration.
[13:52] <bello> binboupan ok i will refuse to replace upgraded new conf files with my current conf files. correct?
[14:00] <pkej1236[m]> i cannot refresh firefox,it says status code=409 kind=snap-change-conflict message=snap "firefox" has refresh change in progress
[14:02] <bello> binboupan: thank you its upgrading now
[14:03] <ogra> pkej1236[m], snaps upgrade asynchronously and on its own so there is already a refresh in progress ... you cah check it with "snap changes" and see details with "snap change <ID>" (wher ID is the number you get with the first command)
[14:04] <Led_Zeppelin2> hi
[14:13] <pkej1236[m]> ok i will try that
[14:14] <pkej1236[m]> i cannot set livepatch, i have logged in with ubuntu one but it keeps saying livepatch failed
[14:14] <pkej1236[m]> my ubuntu version is 22.04LTS
[14:16] <ogra> pkej1236[m], did you make any serious modifications to that ubuntu install (like installing a non-standard kernel or so) ? and what architecture is that x86/arm ?
[14:17] <ogra> (livepatc shuld surely not fail on x86 with a standard install)
[14:17] <pkej1236[m]> i install it in the vmware workstation
[14:22] <pkej1236[m]> is this the reason?i don't modify any other thing
[14:22] <ogra> no, that should (theoretically) not matter
[14:25] <Guest17> Hello
[14:26] <sem> Hello there Mr. Guest17
[14:26] <Guest17> Ubuntu based distro won’t on mac any idea
[14:27] <lotuspsychj3> Guest17: wich mac model are we talking about?
[14:27] <Alexey_> http://dchub.one:8080/Audio/Браво.torrent Girl & Boy Russian Rock and Roll - advise
[14:28] <lotuspsychj3> !ops | Alexey_ multiple channels spam
[14:28] <Guest17> lotuspsychj3 imac 2015
[14:30] <lotuspsychj3> Guest17: i think ubuntu 20.04 would work good on that model
[14:35] <Guest17> To be honest i download tuxedo os 1 based on ubuntu but won’t boot i know this channel for ubuntu but i can’t any help and it’s based on ubuntu lotuspsychj3
[14:36] <lotuspsychj3> Guest17: we can only support ubuntu and their !flavours , try to grab an ubuntu iso
[14:37] <lotuspsychj3> Guest17: i installed 20.04 on a lot of macs in the past
[14:37] <Guest17> Thanks lot
[15:03] <vlm> Any official place i could download prebuilt binary packages for ubuntu 16.10?
[15:04] <ravage> vlm: no
[15:04] <gregl> vim: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.10/
[15:05] <ravage> but you have to search through that yourself
[15:05] <ravage> !eolupgrades | vlm
[15:07] <vlm> Is the source files possible to get then anywhere? Saw something on launchpad but only found a few packages here and there.
[15:08] <vlm> gregl: was looking around in old-releases.ubuntu.com but didnt find any packages though? So then when a release is EOL all the packages will no longer be availible?
[15:10] <jhutchins> vlm: Why not track down the original project and get the sources there?
[15:11] <gregl> Vim: There is an iso there.. That's where you should look first.
[15:11] <UnivrslSuprBox> vlm: at the end of a release's life, its archives (release, updates, and security) on the final day are copied into old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu. You can find all the APT metadata and package files there, if you know how the repository is structured.
[15:11] <UnivrslSuprBox> It appears that ports aren't copied, but the main architectures are.
[15:11] <vlm> jhutchins: yes you are correct thought of didnt think before i asked.
[15:11] <UnivrslSuprBox> Ah, no, my mistake. ports are copied too.
[15:13] <vlm> UnivrslSuprBox: found it thanks. i knew i had looked it up before though forgot where it was cheers
[15:13] <UnivrslSuprBox> Additionally, Launchpad has the source and binary packages for every publish to Ubuntu going back years and years. If you know what you're looking for in the history of Ubuntu, there's likely a way to get Launchpad to give it to you.
[15:13] <ogra> vlm, the sources should still be on launchpad ... iirc it keeps all uploads in some history DB
[15:15] <vlm> Thanks for all answers. I found what i was looking in old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu but nice to know about launchpad aswell. Also looking up the original project is helpful
[15:18] <vlm> Wasent it also an option earlier on to get cd or dvd images with lots of packages for offline installation or am i thinking of another distribution?
[15:18] <jhutchins> vlm: What was the project you were looking for?
[15:21] <vlm> jhutchins: was looking for glibc im just fiddling around was wondering to try upgrade glibc on another system without a package manager. might not be a good idea but again just trying out stuff
[15:25] <vlm> jhutchins: also i wanted to install other prebuilt packages on that very system from a source for earlier glibc. old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu have all those nice debs laying around so good place to start -_-
[15:26] <jhutchins> vlm: Yeah, you're at least going to be warned if your version is incompatible with other packages.
[15:27] <jhutchins> vlm: Seems to me it's possible for certain uses to have more than one glibc available.
[15:31] <ogra> vlm, here is an example of the source package history on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+publishinghistory (you need to know the source package name though)
[15:31] <ogra> tha should list every ever uploaded version of a package
[15:33] <vlm> ogra: to be honest i havent really looked at launchpad before ive just apt-get packages. Launchpad seems very informative ill have a closer look
[15:34] <ogra> well, lauchpad is the actual archive and build location ... what you get with apt is just a frontend to that
[15:35] <vlm> ogra: i probably should do some reading also dont quite understand the meaning of backports just know im able to use a newr package than whats availible in the default repositories hehe
[15:40] <geosmile> I've a machine where the network was working till yesterday. Now the DNS isn't working. Any ideas on how to debug/fix this? On the same network other machines are working without issues.
[15:42] <geosmile> it just started working...not sure why it took so long
[15:58] <jhutchins> geosmile: Bad cables, failing switch port, failing switch, something preventing networking from loading...
[16:56] <jhutchins> Voltage at the power connector is good, I don't think I'll bother tearing down the external enclosure.
[16:57] <jhutchins> 2TB is pretty cheap these days.
[17:12] <tomreyn> jhutchins: looks like you hit the wrong channel there
[18:48] <chilversc> Can I set a limit on the highest memory address that can be used by a 64 bit application, especially those allocated using calloc?
[19:01] <arraybolt3> chilversc: I think that's probably more of a generic C programming question. You might try asking in #c.
[19:01] <chilversc> no, I don't want to recompile the binary
[19:02] <chilversc> I just want to stop it allocating addresses above the 3GB range as if it were a 32 bit application
[19:02] <arraybolt3> Oh.
[19:03] <Habbie> sounds like a job for LD_PRELOAD, but i don't know if a suitable library exists yet
[19:03] <Habbie> (that's all i'll say about it, it feels off topic here)
[19:04] <arraybolt3> I thought the kernel is what decides what areas of memory a program can use.
[19:04] <arraybolt3> When I've compiled a kernel before, there's a setting to choose the kernel/application memory split.
[19:05] <arraybolt3> That doesn't necessarily mean that what you're trying to do is impossible, just that I don't know how to do it and suspect that it may require kernel modification or at least recompilation.
[19:05] <chilversc> The issue I have is an application is crashing (cachefilesd) and I have a suspicion it wasn't intended to be compiled as 64 bit
[19:06] <arraybolt3> What's the crash?
[19:06] <arraybolt3> chilversc: Can you pastebin the crash message?
[19:06] <arraybolt3> You can do so with a site like dpaste.com.
[19:07] <chilversc> It terminates itself, calls abort(). I suspect its an old bug check from the 32 bit days where you could use addresses in the kernel range as sentinel values
[19:07] <arraybolt3> Hmm, odd. I see it interacts with the kernel.
[19:08] <chilversc> that's the line https://kernel.googlesource.com/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/dhowells/cachefilesd/+/refs/tags/v0.10.10/cachefilesd.c#1571
[19:09] <chilversc> I figured until I've reported the bug, and it can be resolved I could just force linux to treat cachefilesd as if it were an old 32 bit app and only hand out addresses <0xC0000000
[19:10] <arraybolt3> I see what you're saying.
[19:10] <arraybolt3> Yeah, I have no clue how to do that sadly. I see what it is you're trying to do though, so hopefully someone will have an idea.
[19:12] <wh0ami> h
[19:12] <wh0ami> hi
[19:12] <chilversc> It's the check on the line above, cullready[0] == 0x556d6d7382a0, which unfortunatley fails the check, I don't think its supposed to as its a valid memory address with valid data
[19:14] <Guest9795> #nick
[19:14] <Guest9795> #wantom
[19:14] <Guest9795> ls
[19:15] <Habbie> chilversc, if you're compiling it, have you considered compiling it as 32 bit entirely?
[19:23] <chilversc> Habbie: I wasn't compiling it, but I'm considering that as an option.
[19:23] <chilversc> first step I gotta write up a report and post it to the fscache mailing list
[19:27] <chilversc> Though I'm curious why the issue didn't seem to occur as in the past while I was running Ubuntu 20.04 with the 5.13 kernel, compared to 22.04 on the 6.1.0-rc5 kernel.
[20:30] <elias_a> Znevna: Yes. I can also write using several other languages and writing systems. That does not change anything, really.
[20:36] <wantom> Client: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4570T CPU @ 2.90GHz (3.29GHz) • Memory: Physical: 6.3 GiB Total (3.0 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (1.3 GiB Free) • Storage: 70.1 GB / 245.0 GB (175.0 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller • Upt
[20:36] <wantom> ime: 4h 2m 21s
[20:40] <tomreyn> wantom: please don't post this here.
[21:54] <bjorkintosh> why is it so hard to get the subwoofer working? how come its settings are not default?
[22:05] <elias_a> ... and yet again - what does it have to do with Ubuntu? :D
[22:08] <Apachez> elias_a: perhaps the sub is connected to a computer running ubuntu and the user wish to get sound of this said sub when playing somethinǵ in ubuntu? :)
[22:11] <gogofc_> Maybe the sub is going to be used to play music while user uses Ubuntu, so yeah :)
[22:16] <wh0ami> hi
[22:18] <elias_a> Apachez: Then one should utter the possible connections. Next!
[22:20] <Apachez> ?
[22:25] <wingarmac> hi
[22:27] <wingarmac> I would like to know how a server communicates with the public IP on the router?
[22:27] <wingarmac> How are these two linked in the configuration of a server?
[22:28] <wingarmac> I use Ubuntu 22.04 Server and webmin to configure it from my desktop
[22:28] <wingarmac> I've also a domain name I've to attach to this configuration.
[22:29] <wingarmac> should I specify it in network.yaml somehow ?
[22:30] <wingarmac> i've apache server installed, and no page is displayed when I enter my public IP or domain name.
[22:31] <wingarmac> I've also installed bind on the server
[22:32] <wingarmac> I think I do not get the requests form outside because the route stops at the ip. I don't now how to route it to the local ip of my server
[22:34] <sarnold> wingarmac: you'll probably need to configure some forwarding rules on your firewall/router device to forward tcp/80, tcp/443, to your server machine on the inside
[22:35] <sarnold> wingarmac: this might help you find the port forwarding configuration in your router https://portforward.com/router.htm
[22:58] <_jak> hey y'all! I'm trying to connect my joycons (Nintendo Switch controllers) to my ubuntu machine, and they paired ok, but every subsequent time I try, they fail to connect with an "input/output" error
[22:59] <_jak> I'm hoping someone in here can point me in the right direction debugging-wise i.e. where I might find some logs
[22:59] <_jak> or, y'know, magically solve my problem. Would be totally fine with that outcome :)
[23:29] <gartral> why is firefox by default a snap?
[23:31] <gartral> and further, I'm running into an issue with my VDI and snaps, when I start firefox I get: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-7.scope is not a snap cgroup
[23:35] <toddc> gartral: snaps are the new default and or future for many resons
[23:37] <toddc> !snap | gartral
[23:39] <nothingman> eggdrop?
[23:40] <nothingman> !help
[23:40] <nothingman> !news
[23:52] <gartral> ok, well.. snaps are annoying because they don't interact well with x2go because of the need to attach to dynamic display sessions. At least by default. So how do I fix this?