[10:15] <richiefrich> Xyloc  your not in wondows now, pastbin xorg.conf
[10:16] <octan> paste your xorg.conf to pastebin.com
[10:16] <richiefrich> octan i guess he wont
[10:16] <Xyloc> Richifrich, I am in Windows now, checkmy Chatzilla signature...
[10:16] <richiefrich> Xyloc boot to linux
[10:16] <richiefrich> cant fix linux from windows
[10:16] <octan> richiefrich then hes not willing to get much help.. lets all just guess whats wrong :p
[10:17] <Xyloc> Just a moment while I boot my Toshiba Tecra 8100
[10:17] <richiefrich> unless u have two computers
[10:17] <distanceisdeath> does anyone know how to use partition magic?
[10:17] <richiefrich> octan i cant guess
[10:17] <alth> Greetings ^_^
[10:17] <Xyloc> distancheisdeath: Whcih version are you using?
[10:17] <distanceisdeath> 8 trial
 sry my english isnt the best :P
[10:18] <distanceisdeath> im trying to take ten gigs off my c
 whats up..
[10:18] <octan> just resize it
[10:18] <richiefrich> octan  u see my comment  :)
[10:18] <distanceisdeath> i am
[10:18] <distanceisdeath> now
[10:18] <crazy_penguin> good mornin' ! // jo napot!// buna ziua! :)
[10:18] <distanceisdeath> no***
[10:18] <distanceisdeath> im making a new partition
[10:18] <distanceisdeath> and taking the memory off of the c drive
[10:18] <drumline> distance: http://gparted.sourceforge.net
[10:19] <octan> richiefrich :)
[10:19] <distanceisdeath> and it says operations pending
[10:19] <distanceisdeath> but it doesnt do anything
[10:19] <richiefrich> octan it's true :)
[10:19] <drumline> distance: that sucker supposedly can resize NTFS and FAT32 partitions
[10:19] <octan> richiefrich, yea i know
[10:19] <babo> did someone say earlier that it was possible to boot up with dapper without burning a cd ?
[10:19] <Xyloc> distanceisdeath: Follow that link Drumline supplied to you, gparted is great
[10:19] <babo> welp maybe ...? ^^
[10:19] <drumline> Xyloc: you've used it successfully many times?
[10:19] <Healot> PM does excellent job on resizing NTFS, even the new version
[10:19] <Xyloc> distanceisdeath: YEs
[10:19] <drumline> Xyloc: I just burnt the sucker seconds ago for the first time
[10:20] <distanceisdeath> what do i do with this gnome thing?
[10:20] <Xyloc> drumine: Yes, I've used gparted many times with success
[10:20] <distanceisdeath> im on windows not liux
[10:20] <distanceisdeath> linux
[10:20] <twopeak> is there a nice way to see what computers are on the network and connect to them?
[10:20] <drumline> distance: burn the gparted live cd...  it's a boot disc.
[10:20] <Xyloc> Me too, but I'm booting Ubuntu on my Toshiba right now... (Cowers in shame)
[10:20] <distanceisdeath> i cant burn anything
[10:20] <distanceisdeath> i have no cds
[10:21] <drumline> Xyloc: shame?  why?
[10:21] <drumline> distance: FLUNK
[10:21] <distanceisdeath> haha
[10:21] <alth> Hey Xyloc, what Toshiba is it?
[10:21] <distanceisdeath> how do you resize the partition?
[10:21] <munckfish> I have a nasty lockup problem in Breezy relating to my wireless connection. Forum post is here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180160. I'm not a complete noob, but not dealt with a serious system issue like this before. I've given up on the searhcing the logs as it appears no relevant errors are logged just before it hangs. Can anyone give me any tips on lower level debugging?
[10:21] <Xyloc> Well, to join an Ubuntu chat-channel whilst using WindowsXP....
[10:21] <drumline> distance: not with native windows programs, as far as I know.
[10:22] <distanceisdeath> the other kids said i could
[10:22] <kevor> Hello, when i try to update, i click "Update" in the screen i get when clicking the popup saying i need updates. It gets to updating, but nothing happens, the updates are not installed...
[10:22] <alth> Xyloc, I do that all the time, when I have a problem with my laptop, I boot my desktop :P
[10:22] <Xyloc> Ah, Ubuntu has started, I'll start a new chatsession on my other box...
[10:22] <dewbie> so then does anyone know how to compile and install a tarball?
[10:22] <richiefrich> Xyloc we need linux info please load it, if your not yet
[10:22] <drumline> distance: did the other kids tell you exactly how?  :)
[10:22] <octan> distanceisdeath if the fat | nfts is bigger than 10 GB its not problem.. but if you wanna use some space from ext2|3 your out of luck
[10:22] <richiefrich> Xyloc cool
[10:22] <drumline> dewbie: man tar.  :)
[10:22] <dewbie> I got that
[10:22] <dewbie> its un tarred
[10:22] <Xyloc> dewbie: That's easy, just tar -xvzf <filename>
[10:22] <dewbie> err
[10:22] <dewbie> I need to build it
[10:22] <Xyloc> That's from the commandline....
[10:23] <dewbie> and install it
[10:23] <drumline> dewbie: C to create a tar...
[10:23] <distanceisdeath> i just wanna have a partition for linux
[10:23] <kevor> dewbie: ./configure --help
[10:23] <Xyloc> dewbie, trie ./configure
[10:23] <distanceisdeath> ten gigs
[10:23] <twopeak> !network
[10:23] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[10:23] <distanceisdeath> and i wanna take it off my c drive
[10:23] <drumline> dewbie: but read your man pages...  you'll learn a ton of other cool tricks that you didn't know were possible.
[10:23] <kevor> dewbie: but in the directory that has just been created after doing $ tar xfvz file
[10:23] <bintrue> Is anyone able to download the 6.06 torrent?
[10:23] <twopeak> anyone has better info than that?
[10:23] <octan> distanceisdeath how many partition do you have?
[10:24] <Xyloc> distanceisdeath, did you Defrag before rearrangin your partitions?
[10:24] <octan> 1? c only?
[10:24] <drumline> dewbie: sorry... lowercase c
[10:24] <dewbie> lol
[10:24] <dewbie> ok so read the man pages
[10:24] <alth> Hmm. Should I upgrade to the Dapper beta on my laptop?
[10:24] <dewbie> fine
[10:24] <Xyloc> Rolling on Ubuntu::Xchat
[10:24] <spikeb> dapper is RC now, not beta. :)
[10:24] <drumline> dewbie: seriously...  :)  There are jewels in the man pages...   and you don't need to read the whole thing if you don't want to.
[10:25] <haakonn> what is the kernel source package in dapper called?
[10:25] <dewbie> its telling me bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[10:25] <visik_> is reiser from dapper installer still unavailable ?
[10:25] <distanceisdeath> i have one partition
[10:25] <distanceisdeath> no i didnt defrag
[10:25] <drumline> Xyloc: have you used the live cd of  gparted?
[10:25] <Xyloc_> So, now I'm talking from my Ubuntu box...
[10:25] <drumline> dewbie: make sure you have a configure file in your current dir
[10:25] <dewbie> I don't
[10:26] <dewbie> oh shit
[10:26] <dewbie> its called config
[10:26] <dewbie> heh
[10:26] <Xyloc_> drumline: I used Knoppix, which includes gparted
[10:26] <octan> distanceisdeath so whats so hard? open partiton magic and rezise it
[10:26] <dewbie> wait
[10:26] <drumline> dewbie: so the file is called 'config' ?
[10:26] <drumline> usually it's configure
[10:26] <drumline> well.. what the heck...
[10:26] <drumline> ./config
[10:26] <distanceisdeath> okay octan
[10:26] <distanceisdeath> lemme give it a go
[10:26] <dewbie> tried that
[10:27] <Xyloc_> octan, if he has'nt defragged first, he'll be in for a wild, bumpy ride...
[10:27] <kevor> What the.. updating to Dapper requires 700mb of files@!$!@
[10:27] <Healot> dewbie, just read the readme text :)
[10:27] <kevor> what is up with that?
[10:27] <octan> Xyloc, if can lose all data anyway
[10:27] <dewbie> there is an imake folder withing te config folder
[10:27] <octan> *he
[10:27] <drumline> dewbie: there might even be an INSTALL.TXT
[10:27] <Healot> try to follow that first... if any error then tell them
[10:27] <octan> distanceisdeath partiton magic is not 100% safe
[10:27] <alth> spikeb, what do you mean RC?
[10:27] <drumline> anyway... time for bed.   niter folks
[10:28] <spikeb> alth: release candidate
[10:28] <alth> spikeb:  ah, what's the difference?
[10:28] <distanceisdeath> octan
[10:28] <distanceisdeath> i resized it
[10:28] <dewbie> lmao
[10:28] <distanceisdeath> and
[10:28] <distanceisdeath> i wanna quit it
[10:28] <dewbie> the readme for it is for xorg 6
[10:28] <dewbie> not for the actual file
[10:28] <distanceisdeath> but it asks me if i want to apply or not???
[10:28] <dewbie> wtf
[10:28] <octan> you need to reboot.. then the stuff start to happen
[10:28] <spikeb> alth: release candidate means it's almost ready
[10:28] <Xyloc_> Richiefrinch, how do i pastebin a file into XChat?
[10:28] <distanceisdeath> reboot?
[10:28] <distanceisdeath> like i quit
[10:29] <octan> yes..
[10:29] <distanceisdeath> partitionmagic
[10:29] <octan> as in powerdown
[10:29] <distanceisdeath> and apply the changes?
[10:29] <octan> after you applyed
[10:29] <distanceisdeath> and then restart
[10:29] <distanceisdeath> okay
[10:29] <alth> spikeb:  Ah, ok. So should I upgrade? :P
[10:29] <spikeb> alth: if you feel brave, yes :)
[10:29] <octan> distanceisdeath it may take some houers before its finished :P
[10:30] <distanceisdeath> oh joy
[10:30] <octan> lol
[10:30] <distanceisdeath> its 430 AM
[10:30] <manuvcube> Hi all. My Ubuntu is trying to send a mail to <root> every morning. How do I stop that?
[10:30] <distanceisdeath> okay
[10:30] <distanceisdeath> so what are these changes im supposed to see?
[10:30] <octan> manuvcube see if its an error.. then fix it :P its probelay a crond job
[10:31] <octan> distanceisdeath you'll notice it
[10:31] <manuvcube> so it shout be in cron.daily?
[10:31] <octan> posseble
[10:31] <octan> it may run a script.. that its having some problems that is reporting it
[10:31] <dewbie> ./make, ./configure, none of them work
[10:32] <dewbie> ./imake either
[10:32] <dewbie> wtf
[10:32] <Xyloc_> richiefrich:
[10:32] <babo> what's a good iso burner for gnome (besides gnomebaker) ... ?
[10:32] <dewbie> it tells me that there isn't a file or folder
[10:32] <spikeb> babo: graveman
[10:32] <octan> manuvcube is it a error mail you get?
[10:33] <twopeak> !tell twopeak about openoffice
[10:33] <Xyloc_> brb
[10:33] <babo> spikeb: thanks ...
[10:33] <Xyloc> brb
[10:33] <distanceisdeath> octan
[10:33] <distanceisdeath> i swear
[10:33] <octan> yes
[10:33] <manuvcube> octan: I have not figured out, what's in that mail, I just see it in mail.log
[10:33] <richiefrich> Xyloc_ ?
[10:33] <distanceisdeath> my computer better stop restartiing itself
 look at the mail
[10:34] <manuvcube> octan: how?
[10:34] <Xyloc_> richiefrich, yes>
[10:34] <distanceisdeath> octan:why is my computer restarting itself?
[10:34] <octan> use a mail app.. and sudo it to get root premission
[10:34] <richiefrich> Xyloc_ pastebin ?
[10:34] <achandra> is gcc-3.4 in main  repository or must i edit my sources.list??
[10:34] <babo> distanceisdeath, maybe it's buddhist ... ?
[10:34] <octan> distanceisdeath how many times has it done that now?
[10:34] <manuvcube> octan: ok, I'll try that
[10:34] <distanceisdeath> like five times
[10:34] <ubuntu> hi
[10:34] <Xyloc_> richiefrich, I' m a bit new to XChat
[10:35] <octan> distanceisdeath thats normal for windows :P
[10:35] <distanceisdeath> and its still doing
[10:35] <distanceisdeath> it
[10:35] <richiefrich> Xyloc_ pastebin.ca
[10:35] <ubuntu> DBO: thanks for assistance a few days  eveything works now
[10:35] <distanceisdeath> well how do i fix it?
[10:35] <octan> distanceisdeath press F8 during bootup.. right after bios
[10:35] <octan> then safemode
[10:35] <richiefrich> Xyloc_ web site  go there and paste your xorg.conf
[10:35] <distanceisdeath> okay one sec
[10:36] <Xyloc_> richiefrich, waht do you mean with pastebin.ca?
[10:36] <Xyloc_> Ah, thanks
[10:36] <ubuntu> DBO: what was that prog we used very useful just remind me please
[10:36] <Xyloc_> I use Liunux since 1996, but I'm a bit new to chatting, sorry guys
[10:36] <Xyloc_> and gals...
[10:36] <ubuntu> cfsk or cfdisk?
[10:37] <distanceisdeath> all right octan
[10:37] <Healot> Xyloc_: really?
[10:38] <distanceisdeath> now what octan?
[10:38] <octan> open partiton magic again again.
[10:38] <distanceisdeath> okay
[10:39] <octan> but as i told you.. partiton magic is not 100 % safe
[10:39] <tmroland> yupee
[10:39] <tmroland> just installed ubuntu
[10:39] <Xyloc_> richiefrich, pasting....
[10:39] <tmroland> running 5.10 on powerpc64 smp
[10:39] <tmroland> :)
[10:39] <distanceisdeath> keep going
[10:39] <distanceisdeath> its open
[10:39] <GnarusLeo> !java
[10:39] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:39] <tmroland> i love this OS
[10:39] <octan> distanceisdeath resizing partitons are not 100% safe,, and never will be
[10:39] <distanceisdeath> i understand
[10:39] <distanceisdeath> but right now
[10:40] <Healot> tmroland: distro :)
[10:40] <distanceisdeath> my computer is half broken...
[10:40] <tmroland> yea i hate yellow dog linux or other distros.. all i like is ubuntu.. clean, lightweight and rock-solid
[10:40] <twopeak> is there a decent way to brows the network?
[10:40] <octan> what did part magic say
[10:40] <Xyloc_> distanceisdeath: so you live up to your nick ;-)
[10:40] <tmroland> finally a good distro for my dual cpu powermac
[10:40] <octan> Xyloc_ LOL
[10:40] <Healot> tmroland: you're using the SMP kernel?
[10:41] <tmroland> smp and 64 bit
[10:41] <tmroland> yes
 what did part magic say about the sizes?
[10:41] <Xyloc_> 800x600 sucks...
[10:41] <Healot> how does it feel?
[10:41] <distanceisdeath> octan it looks like i jsut opened to it before i did any partitioning
[10:41] <richiefrich> Xyloc_ ok
[10:41] <tmroland> very fast and stable so far :)
[10:41] <Healot> just like, MacOS X *BSD kernel? tmroland
[10:41] <xerophyte> is there anything like Fedora Directory server for Ubuntu ???
[10:41] <Xyloc_> richiefrich, thx forthe pointers...
[10:41] <tmroland> macosx doesnt have a bsd kernel.. its a mix of mach and some bsd code is handling networking and file management
[10:42] <tmroland> i mean fs
[10:42] <distanceisdeath> they are the same
[10:42] <spikeb> osx's kernel is a POS
[10:42] <richiefrich> Xyloc_  np
[10:42] <distanceisdeath> the way i had them before
[10:42] <spikeb> hope they clean it up now that avie is gone
[10:42] <tmroland> see ya later guys ill come back with questions soon
[10:42] <octan> distanceisdeath try cheage em now in safe mode
[10:42] <tmroland> so far so good the distro rocks
[10:42] <distanceisdeath> resize again?
[10:42] <octan> yes
[10:42] <distanceisdeath> okat
[10:42] <distanceisdeath> okay*
[10:43] <octan> i have used pm8 3 time.. 1 time i had to reformat the hole drive
[10:43] <distanceisdeath> okay octan
[10:43] <Xyloc_> distanceisdeath: did you apply the changes yert>
[10:43] <distanceisdeath> aply?
[10:43] <distanceisdeath> one sec
[10:43] <shriphani> i got a problem
[10:43] <Xyloc_> yert = yet
[10:43] <dog> i have tryed to install my nvidia card but i cant get it 2 work does some one have a guied?
[10:44] <shriphani> wine refuses to install
[10:44] <spikeb> !tell dog about nvidia
[10:44] <distanceisdeath> yeah i applied
[10:44] <octan> distanceisdeath then restart
[10:44] <shriphani> anyone ?
[10:44] <Xyloc_> dog: Oh, boy, nVidia supplies binary drivers for linux
[10:44] <Xyloc_> dog: You're the lucky one, I'm stuck with an S3
[10:44] <shriphani> i installed wine but it doesnt run
[10:45] <Xyloc_> shriphani, what errs do you get?
[10:45] <shriphani> just a sec
[10:45] <octan> dog i have a nothher way to do it.... dont use the drivers in the repo. if you want proper libGL drivers
[10:45] <octan> *another
[10:45] <octan> get the nvidia bin pkg
[10:45] <shriphani> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\PATH.exe": Module not found
[10:45] <achandra> Sorry to ask again..is gcc-3.4 in the main source or?
[10:45] <Xyloc_> dog: Use the drivers from the nVidia website
[10:45] <distanceisdeath> octan: it took me to the log on screen
[10:46] <distanceisdeath> log in?
[10:46] <octan> just reboot
[10:46] <distanceisdeath> i did reboot
[10:46] <Xyloc_> shriphani: what version of wine did you install?
[10:46] <distanceisdeath> and it went through the xp logo screen and now to the log in
[10:46] <shriphani> i used the apt-get
[10:46] <Xyloc_> shriphani: good...
[10:46] <shriphani> ok
[10:46] <shriphani> but why doesnt it run
[10:47] <Xyloc_> shriphani: What program are you trying to run through wine?
[10:47] <octan> distanceisdeath you must powerdown and up | reboor. force it if it will not do it
[10:47] <shriphani> nothing
[10:47] <distanceisdeath> okay
[10:47] <shriphani> i just wanted to run it first
[10:47] <spikeb> you can't
[10:48] <shriphani> i cant ?
[10:48] <spikeb> wine doesn't actually run itself, it runs other programs
[10:48] <Xyloc_> spike: right on
[10:48] <shriphani> ok so i put in the cd and then type wine PATH ?
[10:48] <alth> !tell alth about dapper
[10:48] <Xyloc_> shriphani, no.
[10:48] <shriphani> then ?
[10:48] <distanceisdeath> octan...its doing the same exact thing
[10:48] <manuvcube> octan: neither "mail" from the gnu mailutils nor evolution show any mails for root. The trouble is, that the mail is delivered over a relay host to root@mycomputername.tld.
[10:48] <distanceisdeath> going to the logo scren
[10:48] <distanceisdeath> screen*
[10:49] <Xyloc_> shriphani: type wine path.exe instead (when in the same path as path.exe)
[10:49] <manuvcube> octan: the relay host cant deliver to mycomputername.tld, because there's no smtp server running
[10:49] <shriphani> ok
[10:49] <shriphani> after i put in the cd ?
[10:49] <Xyloc_> From your Desk, you can use Alt+F2
[10:49] <shriphani> and ?
[10:49] <distanceisdeath> octan im at logon again
 hmm.. odd
[10:49] <Xyloc_> shriphani: you first have to mount the CD and change to the proper directory
[10:49] <dee_> hello.
[10:50] <distanceisdeath> now what?
[10:50] <shriphani> ok
[10:50] <shriphani> the dir of my cd ?
[10:50] <dee_> is it possible to restore files deleted by "rm" on ext3-filesystem?
[10:50] <Xyloc_> shrip: yes...
[10:50] <shriphani> i.e. /mount/cdrom ?
[10:50] <manuvcube> octan: and postfix has mycomputername.tld as a "mydomain" entry in main.cf
[10:50] <octan> distanceisdeath you must have missed something in parition magic
[10:50] <manuvcube> octan: but stil tries to deliver that mail via the relay host
[10:50] <Healot> yes... there are tools for that... dee_
[10:50] <Xyloc_> shrip: or media/cdrom, yes, you can choose your own mount point
[10:50] <octan> manuvcube you missconfigured postfix
[10:50] <shriphani> ok
[10:51] <Xyloc_> shrip: Just mount it as vfat
[10:51] <distanceisdeath> i right clicked the c drive...resize.....changed the free space to 10000 megs...applied
[10:51] <shriphani> and then i type wine path.exe ?
[10:51] <distanceisdeath> and turned off
[10:51] <manuvcube> octan: blame me ;-)
[10:51] <octan> lol
[10:51] <manuvcube> octan: I didn't even know, I configured it :-)
[10:51] <babo> I can't seem to burn an iso to my cdrom ... ? it seems to run fine, when I put in a blank cd I get 'blank cd' on the gnome desktop. But when I fire up gnome it just asks me to Please insert a disk into the HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B  ... then says ... umount: /media/cdrom0: not mounted?
[10:51] <Xyloc_> shriphani: First you need to change to the same dir that path.exe is in.
[10:51] <shriphani> hmm
[10:52] <babo> root@ubuntu64:~# ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom0
[10:52] <babo> root@ubuntu64:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom0
[10:52] <babo> mount: block device /dev/cdrom0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:52] <octan> manuvcube do you got webmin? its a great tool to comfigure postfix
[10:52] <shriphani> i.e. the installation file ?
[10:52] <manuvcube> octan: how do I teach postfix to deliver mails without a domain portion locally?
[10:52] <Healot> babo: try to reinsert that blank
[10:52] <octan> manuvcube> you need to set that the root mail are delivered localy
[10:52] <richiefrich> babo what are u trying ?
[10:52] <Xyloc_> shrip: well if the installation file is in the smae directory as your pwd, go right ahead...
[10:52] <Xyloc_> smae = same
[10:52] <babo> I want to burn an iso of dapper ... ?
[10:53] <Xyloc_> babo, wait until Juhne 1st
[10:53] <richiefrich> babo  ok but it's mounted
[10:53] <manuvcube> octan: webmin? Ok, I'll try that, even if it known to have (or had) some serious security flwas
[10:53] <manuvcube> octan: bbl
[10:53] <babo> richiefrich, gnomebaker gone all weird since I rm'd /home ... ;-)
[10:53] <shriphani> if the exe is brb.exe should i still type brb.exe or path.exe ?
[10:53] <Healot> babo: pre order the CD now :)
[10:53] <richiefrich> babo  <babo> mount: block device /dev/cdrom0 is write-protected, mounting read-only    <--- means it mounted
[10:53] <babo> Xyloc: why ?
[10:53] <distanceisdeath> octan...what to do?
[10:53] <Xyloc_> babo: that's the proper release date of Dapper
[10:53] <richiefrich> babo   burn it from the CLI with cdrecord
[10:54] <richiefrich> babo or use growisofs
[10:54] <babo> Xyloc_: unconcerned...my os needs a reinstall and I'm sick of 64bit...
[10:54] <Xyloc_> richiefrich: Did you see anything unusual in my xorg.conf file?
[10:54] <octan> distanceisdeath i wish i knew... i think you habe been doing it wrong.. distanceisdeath check and see if partition magic is set to start at bootup
[10:54] <shriphani> Xyloc, should i type the exact exe name or only path.exe ?
[10:54] <richiefrich> Xyloc_ whats the link i missed when u pasted it
 start --> run --msconfig
[10:55] <babo> richiefrich: well, it's not that I don't enjoy hd scsi commands, but I was hoping to avoid them on this occasion ;-)
[10:55] <distanceisdeath> its not
[10:55] <GnarusLeo> How do I install java virtual machine?
[10:55] <distanceisdeath> okay
[10:55] <distanceisdeath> one sec
[10:55] <richiefrich> babo  hd scsi commands?
[10:55] <babo> richiefrich, cdrecord
[10:55] <shriphani> Xyloc, ???????????????????????
[10:55] <richiefrich> babo   whats hard about it
[10:55] <Xyloc_> richiefrich: That would be:
[10:56] <richiefrich> Xyloc_ url to the pastbin ?
[10:56] <Xyloc_> http://www.elks.sourceforge.net
[10:56] <babo> richiefrich, the man page ...
 btw. ide , sata or scsi drive you got?
[10:56] <richiefrich> babo i give u cmd to use
[10:56] <GnarusLeo> Im trying to run mercury, but it says it needs to a virtual java machine .... how do I do that?
[10:56] <shriphani> Xyloc, if the exe file is ass.exe do i type ass.exe or path.exe ?
[10:56] <octan> install java :P
[10:56] <Xyloc_> richiefrich: just add /58999 after pastebin.ca
[10:56] <Xyloc_> like this:
[10:57] <Xyloc_> http://pastebin.ca/58999
[10:57] <babo> richiefrich: :-) ...
[10:57] <distanceisdeath> ide
[10:57] <distanceisdeath> okay
[10:57] <richiefrich> Xyloc_  lookin
[10:57] <distanceisdeath> im in msconfig
[10:57] <distanceisdeath> now what?
[10:57] <distanceisdeath> i have another hd
[10:57] <Xyloc_> richiefrich: something you should know:
[10:57] <octan> look at whats startin up t boot.. do you see pm ther?
[10:57] <distanceisdeath> its just master
[10:57] <distanceisdeath> and it wont fit in the slave
[10:57] <Xyloc_> richiefrich: My install first hung on xresprobe.
[10:58] <Xyloc_> I had to kill it, befor I could get on with my install..
[10:58] <Xyloc_> richiefrich: ddcprobe works fine however
[10:58] <richiefrich> babo  cdrecord -v speed=16 dev=/dev/hd(a/b/c/d)  foobar.iso
[10:58] <octan> distanceisdeath ok try this simple think.. link pm to your startmenu --> startup
[10:58] <Xyloc_> richiefrich: You want me to paste the output of that, too?
[10:58] <shriphani> hey Xyloc_ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:59] <richiefrich> Xyloc  ddcprobe  is awsome :)
[10:59] <Xyloc_> shrip: Yes?
[10:59] <distanceisdeath> wait
[10:59] <distanceisdeath> hoold up
[10:59] <distanceisdeath> im at the msconfig
[10:59] <distanceisdeath> now where?
[10:59] <richiefrich> babo  do u understand that
[10:59] <distanceisdeath> boot.ini?
[10:59] <octan> no,
[10:59] <octan> you see the tabs
[10:59] <shriphani> if the file is shit.exe do i type shit.exe or path.exe ?
[10:59] <distanceisdeath> yes
[10:59] <snakeubuntu> salut tout le monde
[10:59] <octan> go to the last one i think ut was
[10:59] <Xyloc_> distanceisdeath: Shouldn't you switch to a Window$ forum?
[10:59] <l_> can someone help me? i have installed an ident server on my computer yet still have trouble connecting to irc servfers
[10:59] <distanceisdeath> then what
[10:59] <richiefrich> babo  http://penguinslair.dyndns.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3
[11:00] <distanceisdeath> octan got me covered
 indeed :)
[11:00] <babo> richiefrich: yes .. me speake de english ... :-)
[11:00] <octan> i kida agree with Xyloc
[11:00] <distanceisdeath> whats at the last tab
[11:00] <richiefrich> babo  many more CLI cmd's for CD/DVD
[11:00] <distanceisdeath> no octan
[11:00] <distanceisdeath> we are almost done
[11:00] <shriphani> Xyloc_, if the file is shit.exe should i type shit.exe or path.exe ?
[11:01] <octan> distanceisdeath brbr.. close msconfig.. link pm to startmenu -> startup.. then try
[11:01] <babo> richiefrich: ok cool, the man page was a bit of a mess IMO. I just switch speeds down to 4 ... iso's tend to come out as coasters for me at anything above that ;-)
[11:01] <Xyloc_> shrip: just type shit.exe ;-)
[11:01] <richiefrich> shriphani for what
[11:01] <shriphani> ok
[11:01] <shriphani> thanx
[11:01] <Xyloc_> LOL
[11:01] <Xyloc_> rotfl
[11:01] <distanceisdeath> do what??
[11:01] <octan> x.x
[11:01] <distanceisdeath> how do i link it?
[11:01] <octan> X.x
[11:01] <richiefrich> babo u look at that url i gave u
[11:01] <Xyloc_> shrip: Did your box shit itself yet?
[11:02] <Xyloc_> shrip: ;-)
[11:02] <richiefrich> babo thats my forums/my post :)
[11:02] <l_> can someone help me? i have installed an ident server on my computer yet still have trouble connecting to irc servfers
[11:02] <laughlin> Terminus:thanks for your help earlier. im writing from y fresh ubuntu install right now
[11:02] <octan> distanceisdeath man... if you dont know how to link in M$ .. how so you think you will survive in linux
[11:02] <distanceisdeath> haha
[11:02] <babo> richiefrich, excellent post dude, :-) thanks ... it's going in my google.com/bookmarks ...
[11:02] <distanceisdeath> can you do it through msconfig?
[11:02] <Xyloc_> richiefrich: Would a pastebin of ddcprobe output help?
[11:02] <Taru> /home/momo/cedega-5.1.3-OES.tar.gz
[11:02] <Taru> , how do i install this?
[11:02] <Terminus> laughlin: you're welcome. nice! welcome to the world of almost no compiling. hehe
[11:02] <octan> distanceisdeath yes.. thats the hard way..
[11:03] <distanceisdeath> whats the easy way?
[11:03] <distanceisdeath> open a cmd
[11:03] <distanceisdeath> $path
[11:03] <Xyloc_> Is Synaptic still buggy in Dapper?
[11:03] <octan> link pm to startmenu --> startup
[11:03] <laughlin> now its time to build in all those packages i need/want! yay
[11:03] <Xyloc_> apt-get from the CLI works much better.
[11:03] <distanceisdeath> i dont know how to do that man
[11:03] <octan> distanceisdeath, thats the easy way
[11:03] <GnarusLeo> What do I need to install to get Java Virtual Machine? I have the sun-j2re packages!
[11:03] <distanceisdeath> is this command line or drag and drop?
[11:03] <richiefrich> Xyloc  u dont have too try to change line 88  to          DefaultDepth    24
[11:04] <Xyloc_> distance: just type [Win+R] , then cmd [Enter]
[11:04] <distanceisdeath> i know that
[11:04] <distanceisdeath> i dont know how to set the path
[11:04] <octan> distanceisdeath, ocuments and Settings/All Users/Start-meny/Programmer/oppstart
[11:04] <richiefrich> Xyloc  if not then try to change the         Driver    "savage"   and use vesa or something compatible
[11:04] <Xyloc_> distance: Why do you want to alter the path?
[11:04] <octan> distanceisdeath, look there
[11:05] <distanceisdeath> i need partition magic to start up on start
[11:05] <distanceisdeath> okay octan
[11:05] <distanceisdeath> then how do i link it
[11:05] <octan> OMFG..
[11:05] <Xyloc> richiefrich: Vesa will slow it down to a Slug sliding upwards through nails
 open the dir where pm is and drag it to dockument and setings bla bla bla
[11:06] <ubuntu> hi
[11:06] <ubuntu> hi
[11:06] <richiefrich> Xyloc yes it will, but what elsa is compatible to your card ? nvidia ?  idk savage cards
[11:06] <Xyloc> richiefrich: Waht do you mean with idk?
[11:06] <richiefrich> Xyloc there must be something else u can use
[11:06] <richiefrich> idk = i dont know
[11:06] <ubuntu> what does NC mean next to bbot flag in a partition table?
[11:06] <dewbie> so then
[11:06] <ubuntu> boot
[11:06] <dewbie> still can; install this graphics driver
[11:06] <richiefrich> babo u can jion too :P
[11:07] <richiefrich> jion/join
[11:07] <Xyloc> richiefrich: S3 has ceased to exist long ago...
[11:07] <achandra> Hello..to start ssh server is it a simple /etc/init.d/sshd start??
[11:07] <dewbie> it won't let me build or make or configure or config anything
[11:07] <richiefrich> Xyloc ok, what does  lspci | grep VGA
[11:07] <achandra> It says no host keys or something...how do I get that work?
[11:07] <Xyloc> just a moment.
[11:07] <richiefrich> achandra yes
[11:07] <octan> distanceisdeath i dont think linux is suted for you,, windows is all about drag & drop.. linux is cli.. mostly.. if i where you i would stay in windows.. no offence
[11:08] <dewbie> ...
[11:08] <achandra> richiefrich: it complains about a host key not found..what can i do to fix that such that things will start properly?
[11:09] <distanceisdeath> octan
[11:09] <octan> im here
[11:09] <distanceisdeath> there is no oppstart
[11:09] <distanceisdeath> but start up
[11:09] <octan> startup
[11:09] <Xyloc> richiefrich: See:
[11:09] <distanceisdeath> okay
[11:09] <octan> oppstart is norwegian
[11:09] <Taru> how do i install cedega-5.1.3-OES.tar.gz?
[11:09] <Xyloc> http://pastebin.ca/59000
[11:09] <neo_> Hello anyong!
[11:09] <richiefrich> achandra stop it andreinstall it
[11:09] <Xyloc> octan: Are you Norwegian?
[11:09] <GnarusLeo> Please, can anyone tell me how I can get to Java Virtual Machine? I need to install it
 you pay 5$ for it
[11:10] <neo_> !list
[11:10] <octan> Xyloc, yes i am
[11:10] <ubotu> list is, like, you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:10] <richiefrich> achandra is should make one on 1st starting it
[11:10] <Taru> octan, No, i got a free one from a friend
[11:10] <Xyloc> octan: Jeg r Nederlndsk
[11:10] <octan> no you have to pay for an account
 ;)
[11:10] <octan> i love netherland.
[11:10] <Taru> octan, but i do not know how to install it
[11:10] <Xyloc> octan: Why?
[11:11] <octan> you got great beer :)
[11:11] <Xyloc> octan: Belgian beer is much better.
[11:11] <richiefrich> Xyloc  ok im lookin
[11:11] <Xyloc> octan: But is cheap, yes...
[11:11] <achandra> richiefrich: i dont need openssl as well or?
[11:11] <octan> havent tasted belgian beer
[11:12] <Xyloc> richiefrich: Thanks!
[11:12] <distanceisdeath> all right
[11:12] <distanceisdeath> i got it in the start up folder
[11:12] <Xyloc> octan: Try Hoegaarden
[11:12] <distanceisdeath> look sorry octan
[11:12] <richiefrich> Xyloc  install nvidia
[11:12] <Taru> octan, nevermind, i will just use qtparted to partition windows, so i can play my MMORPGs
[11:12] <richiefrich> drivers
[11:12] <distanceisdeath> its 5 12 AM
[11:12] <Xyloc> octan: You'll love it on a hot summer's day
[11:12] <octan> i'll try that one
[11:12] <octan> thxz for the tip
[11:12] <distanceisdeath> what now octan?
[11:12] <Xyloc> octan: Don't forget the slice of lemon.
[11:12] <octan> reboot again
[11:12] <distanceisdeath> okay
[11:13] <neo_> How to use XMMS for play *.mpc & *.APE files?
 oh,,, it it a light beer? like corona is you tatsed that one..
[11:13] <Xyloc> neo, download the proper plugin from their website
[11:13] <neo_> Thanks
[11:14] <Xyloc> octan: Actually I only drink one glass per year at most
[11:14] <ubuntu> can someone give me the ubuntu wiki for grub please
[11:14] <Sub> !grub
[11:14] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:14] <ubuntu> thanks
[11:14] <Sub> there u go ubuntu
 0.o i drink atlest 1-2 bottles a week :)
[11:14] <ubuntu> Sub; thanks
[11:14] <Xyloc> octan: I can't because of my epilepsy...
[11:14] <octan> ic
[11:15] <octan> thats bad tho..
[11:15] <Xyloc> octan: Thogh I haven't had any seizure these last 6 years and that without any meds
[11:15] <dewbie> how do I confiure and install something that came to me as a tarball
[11:15] <Taru> do i make windows extended partition?
[11:15] <richiefrich> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/S3Savage
[11:15] <Xyloc> Thogh = Though
[11:15] <richiefrich> Xyloc ^^
[11:15] <distanceisdeath> octan...all that did was have pm run it for me on start up
[11:15] <Taru> i have QTparted running
[11:15] <distanceisdeath> after  i logged in
 thats great :)
[11:16] <dewbie> s3savage is crap guy
[11:16] <Xyloc> richiefrich, thx for the link!
[11:16] <dewbie> use vesa
[11:16] <dewbie> heh
[11:16] <dewbie> it works better
[11:16] <Corey> hey guys
[11:16] <octan> distanceisdeath you be better of in #windows
[11:16] <Xyloc> dewbie: That will slow things to much
[11:16] <achandra> Can someone help out with getting ssh server installed and up and running
[11:16] <distanceisdeath> haha
[11:16] <Corey> I'm on dapper now
[11:16] <distanceisdeath> okay
[11:16] <distanceisdeath> i will
[11:16] <distanceisdeath> thanks guys
[11:16] <distanceisdeath> peace
[11:16] <Corey> I don't see anything that has changed :S
[11:17] <dewbie> vesa was faster than the s3savage driver on my 10 year old desktop
[11:17] <Xyloc> dewbie: I know it's crap, but I won't but another laptop, just because the VHGA is crappy
[11:17] <dewbie> this Im on now is a laptop
[11:17] <Xyloc> dewbie, thanks for the tip, I'll try it!
[11:17] <richiefrich> Xyloc i'd still try the nvidia one cause look here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=66551
[11:18] <dewbie> I can't get the tgz to compile
[11:18] <dewbie> ive already untarred it
[11:19] <dewbie> just need to install it
[11:19] <dewbie> its not working well
[11:19] <octan> dewbie ./configure & make & sudo make install
[11:19] <Xyloc> dewbie: Did you try ./configure first?
[11:19] <dewbie> yes
[11:19] <Xyloc> octan: :-)
[11:19] <dewbie> tells me there is n such file
[11:19] <octan> what file?
[11:20] <octan> configure?
[11:20] <dewbie> even from within the folder in which the driver resides
[11:20] <Xyloc> octan: I think it's twice the &&
[11:20] <octan> did you read the README & INSTALL file
[11:20] <octan> ops sorry,,, yes its &&
[11:20] <Xyloc> ;-)
[11:20] <dewbie> the readme is for xorg... useless
[11:20] <enkrav> I did "share this folder" to a folder of mine, wrote localhost as the host and used NFS. How are users supposed to access this shared folder?
[11:20] <dewbie> ./configure doesn't work
[11:21] <Xyloc> I really liked the chat Guys, now I'm going to the shop for a me upgrade...
[11:21] <Xyloc> me= mem
[11:21] <Xyloc> 128MB -> 512 MB
[11:21] <octan> me did that,, got 2GB now :)
[11:21] <dewbie> this is what it tells me in bash : bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:21] <Xyloc> That should rock my old P /// 600!
[11:22] <octan> lol
[11:22] <Xyloc> dewbie: So there's no configure?
[11:22] <Sub> dewbie, not all source tars have a ./configure. do "make" and tell me if u get any errors
[11:22] <octan> yes,, 100% improment
[11:22] <Xyloc> octan: at the very least
 i didnt follow form the start,, but what are you trying to install
[11:23] <dewbie> make[1] : xmakefile: No such file or directory
[11:23] <dewbie> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `xmakefile'.  Stop.
[11:23] <dewbie> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/dewbie/xc'
[11:23] <dewbie> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[11:23] <zcat[1] > what is dewbie compiling?
[11:23] <octan> erm dewbie
[11:23] <dewbie> Im trying to compile the Intel 945GM PCI Express driver
[11:24] <richiefrich> Xyloc do this too --> DefaultDepth    8   and  --> ddcxinfo-knoppix -monitor >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:24] <richiefrich> Xyloc try those
[11:24] <zcat[1] > ahh. ok
[11:24] <twopeak> i'd like to make a shell script to unmount my drives, but I need to isue the command with sudo. How do I go around to have the password in the script?
[11:24] <Xyloc> richie: Thanks, I'll copy your line to a text file...
[11:24] <dewbie> for breezy
[11:24] <Sub> twopeak, you can make the shellscript run as root
[11:24] <Sub> !setuid
[11:24] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sub
[11:24] <Sub> hmm
[11:25] <richiefrich> Xyloc  those will be the 1st things i'd do keep the drive "savage"  for now
[11:25] <dewbie> nothing seems to work
[11:25] <richiefrich> Xyloc i think your card is maxing out of mem
[11:25] <twopeak> Sub how do I do this?
[11:25] <Sub> twopeak, you need to setuid as root on the shellscript, google "setuid", its bad security practice though.
[11:25] <zcat[1] > never setuid shell scripts.. it's one of the oldest security issues!!
[11:25] <Sub> i've never done it so i dont kno myself im aftrad
[11:25] <twopeak> Sub thanks.
[11:25] <Xyloc> richiefrich, it does work under win9x
[11:25] <Xyloc> With full color depth
[11:26] <Xyloc> and 1024x768
[11:26] <dewbie> if ubuntu were anything like win9x id shoot myself
[11:26] <richiefrich> Xyloc i kknow u said, but try that line
[11:26] <richiefrich> dewbie lol
[11:26] <Xyloc> richiefrich: I will, thx 4 all your help!
[11:26] <richiefrich> np
[11:26] <dewbie> wahts worse than win0x?
[11:26] <Xyloc> richiefrich: Something I can help you with?
[11:27] <Xyloc> dewbie: Windows 3.0
[11:27] <dewbie> err win9x
[11:27] <Xyloc> ;-)
[11:27] <dewbie> nope
[11:27] <dewbie> slse
[11:27] <dewbie> close
[11:27] <Xyloc> dewbie: Try Gem
[11:27] <dewbie> lol
[11:27] <Xyloc> dewbie: Gem was a precursor to Window$ in the 80-ies
[11:27] <richiefrich> Xyloc get my extra keys to work on my bluetooth keybord, xev doesn't register them
[11:27] <dewbie> the thing thats worse.... is winME
[11:28] <Xyloc> dewbie: WinME is no OS, it's a disease, see the Wiki
[11:28] <dewbie> lol
[11:28] <dewbie> exactly
[11:28] <Xyloc> rich: ouch
[11:28] <dewbie> its like syphillis
[11:28] <dewbie> onlyitches more
[11:29] <octan> dewbie, is this the one? http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/download.aspx?url=/9722/eng/Intel-3.4.3006-20051209.i386.tar.gz&agr=N&ProductID=2301&DwnldId=9722&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[11:30] <SS2> hi, does somebody have problems with the torrent version of the dapper rc i386 version?
[11:30] <SS2> because I can't use the torrent somehow, its blocked
[11:30] <laughlin> Terminux: what is the apt-get search option again? i cant seem to find it
[11:30] <dewbie> si si senor
[11:30] <philc> does all the hardware on the mac mini work out of the box with ubuntu?
[11:30] <spikeb> philc: what generation mac mini
[11:30] <laughlin> Terminus:what is the apt-get search command again, i cant seem to find it
[11:31] <dewbie> ... seniorita
[11:31] <philc> spikeb: newest, intel core duo
[11:31] <dewbie> lol
[11:31] <spikeb> philc: i don't know
[11:31] <dewbie> philc sweet
[11:31] <Terminus> laughlin: apt-cache search foo
[11:31] <spikeb> i know the ppc mac minis work well
[11:31] <dewbie> me too
[11:31] <laughlin> thanks
[11:31] <spikeb> philc: i am wondering the same thing myself, since i want to get one
[11:31] <dewbie> Ive got one
[11:31] <octan> dewbie, did you know its for X11R6.8.1
[11:31] <dewbie> its awesome
[11:31] <dewbie> lol
[11:31] <octan> dapper got xorg7
[11:31] <Terminus> laughlin: tab autocompletes nicks. less probability spelling the nick wrong. :)
[11:31] <dewbie> octan no
[11:32] <dewbie> Terminus, smartass :P
[11:32] <laughlin> apt-get search kismet
[11:32] <laughlin> E: Invalid operation search
[11:32] <Taru> Is it possible to make the partition for windows 20 gigs?
[11:32] <spikeb> laughlin: apt-cache search
[11:32] <enyc> laughlin: apt-gagte...
[11:32] <enyc> laughlin: apt-cache...
[11:32] <Terminus> laughlin: apt-cache, not apt-get.
[11:32] <gnaleo> I am trying to install mercury, and I only get this error allt he time, though j2re is installed! No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
[11:32] <gnaleo> !
[11:32] <ubotu> gnaleo: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:32] <dewbie> windows HATES being after something else
[11:32] <Stefansoft> hoi
[11:32] <Taru> I am planning on re-installing ubuntu to set the partition big enough for windows.
[11:32] <dewbie> install it FIRST
[11:32] <dewbie> then
[11:32] <Taru> install windows first?
[11:32] <dewbie> install ubuntu
[11:33] <Taru> ok
[11:33] <dewbie> yeah
[11:33] <admiral_proFTW> windows first
[11:33] <Taru> do i need partition magic installed on windows ?
[11:33] <admiral_proFTW> it'll overwrite the MBR otherwise
[11:33] <Taru> ok
[11:33] <dewbie> windows will overwrite the MBR
[11:33] <Terminus> dewbie: well, just trying to be helpful. i don't exactly keep my irc window open and a lot of people don't either. we just wait for the icon to blink. :)
[11:33] <enyc> you can recover from this using Knoppix or semithng... it can just be a fiddle...
[11:33] <dewbie> taru no
[11:33] <enyc> and then you have te sotup the windows chain-boot
[11:33] <enyc> to make that work...
[11:33] <Taru> dewbie, well i want 20 gigs for windows and rest for ubuntu
[11:34] <dewbie> just install windows and then ubuntu will take care of the rest
[11:34] <St_Iron> hello
[11:34] <enyc> St_Iron: mee_do_moop
[11:34] <Kakurady> So it's not possible to boot Ubuntu from the Windows loader?
[11:34] <admiral_proFTW> taru: what do you have on your HD now. how are they partitioned
[11:34] <Taru> dewbie, i have 80 gigs total
[11:34] <dewbie> I have 160
[11:34] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, i just have ubuntu in HD
[11:34] <dewbie> no problem
[11:34] <Terminus> Taru: you don't need partitionmagic if you limit the size of the windows partition when installing it. :)
[11:34] <Taru> Terminus, ok
[11:34] <dewbie> lol
[11:34] <enyc> Kakurady: you con sortof... by adding win32-grub and adding boot etries etc. but it makes life all needlessly complicated...
[11:34] <dewbie> terminus is correct
[11:34] <Taru> ok thanks guys/gals^^
[11:34] <spikeb> i love my mac mini, i plan on getting a new one or an intel imac eventually
[11:35] <Taru> going to try this now
[11:35] <Kakurady> Well if it is possible it is exciting enough for me.
[11:35] <dewbie> uh oh
[11:35] <Taru> just install over ubuntu?
[11:35] <admiral_proFTW> no
[11:35] <enyc> Kakurady: you may-as-well just install win32 first then install ubunt u and the needed boot envirenment will all be-there
[11:35] <dewbie> yes
[11:35] <Taru> and sometime it will let me choose how ot manage the partition?
[11:35] <dewbie> windows needs to be first
[11:35] <Kakurady> That's what I have now, enyc.
[11:35] <Taru> im on ubuntu atm
[11:35] <Taru> so what i do?
[11:35] <dewbie> it will be pisse otherwise
[11:35] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: do you have free space
[11:36] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, 3 gigs of unused space
[11:36] <Terminus> Kakurady: if you really want to use the windows bootloader, you're gonna have to image the boot sector for ubuntu.
[11:36] <dewbie> windows will over write the MBR anyway
[11:36] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: no i mean unformated space
[11:36] <dewbie> just reinstall both
[11:36] <Kakurady> The problem is, I've got an ATI X1800 and the free drivers provided by breezy won't work.
[11:36] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, not sure
[11:36] <spikeb> and yes, i run ubuntu on my macintoshes
[11:36] <spikeb> !tell Kakurady about ati
[11:36] <admiral_proFTW> run "sudo fdisk -ls"
[11:36] <Taru> k
[11:36] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: and tell us what it says
[11:36] <Kakurady> I knew that, ... but I haven't tried yet.
[11:37] <spikeb> oh
[11:37] <spikeb> Kakurady: try it :)
[11:37] <dewbie> I still can't get shit working
[11:37] <dewbie> god I hate term windows to chat in
[11:37] <admiral_proFTW> dewbie: whats the problem?
[11:37] <dewbie> in irrsi
[11:37] <dewbie> lol
[11:37] <dewbie> wait
[11:37] <laughlin> E: Invalid operation search
[11:38] <topher> hi, um, can anyone tell me how to install openssh on ubuntu?
[11:38] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, http://linux.pastebin.com/738918
[11:38] <Besso> HI DO SOMEONE KNOW HOW TO INSTALL ACROBAT READER ON UBUNTU 64 BIT
[11:38] <Kakurady> I couldn't do as documented, anyway, since there's something wrong with my PPPoE internet connection and I'll have to download the packages in Windows and install them using dpkg.
[11:38] <dewbie> I can't get my intel video driver installed
[11:38] <topher> or send me to a website with instrusctions that are easy to follow
[11:38] <Terminus> laughlin: what exactly did you type?
[11:38] <dewbie> goddamn besso
[11:38] <dewbie> stop yelling
[11:38] <spikeb> Besso: i don't think there is a 64bit version of acrobat reader
[11:39] <albinoloverats> Is there a way to bring a window to the front, using the terminal?
[11:39] <Kakurady> sudo apt-get openssh-client , then sudo apt-install openssh-client?
[11:39] <spikeb> sudo apt-get install
[11:39] <Kakurady> Hmm.
[11:39] <dewbie> can I get a vote : sudo aye or nay?
[11:39] <admiral_proFTW> taru: can you run gparted and take a screenshot
[11:39] <spikeb> dewbie: sudo aye
[11:39] <Kakurady> Sudo Yeah!
[11:39] <admiral_proFTW> taru:i forget how to read these things
[11:39] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok
[11:40] <Terminus> dewbie: aye!
[11:40] <apokryphos> dewbie: sudo is the superior model
[11:40] <laughlin> Terminux: apt-cache search kismet;;;;;;;;;;; but it doesn't give me what i'm looking for
[11:40] <Kakurady> What's the alternative, then?
[11:40] <laughlin> Terminus: it gives me nothing
[11:40] <apokryphos> Kakurady: conventional root model
[11:40] <Terminus> laughlin: what's with the semicolons?
[11:40] <apokryphos> with only su
[11:40] <spikeb> even OSX uses something very similar to the sudo model
[11:40] <spikeb> :)
[11:40] <dewbie> versus su... password...wait... wrong pass... try again .... hmmm sudo rocks
[11:40] <dewbie> lol
[11:40] <Kakurady> Oh. I've never used Unix-like systems before ubuntu.
[11:41] <topher> it okay, i will try that.  thank you.
[11:41] <Xyloc> Thx 4 the talk guys, I'm going to have luch and after that I'll buy my mem upgrade....
[11:41] <Kakurady> Microsoft lover all the time.
[11:41] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, how do you take pic?
[11:41] <apokryphos> dewbie: not just because of that. Sudo is an awful lot more flexible; it'd be very hard to hold up any argument for it not being superior.
[11:41] <laughlin> to seperate my command from a statement to you...
[11:41] <laughlin> hehe
[11:41] <spikeb> if you actually like MS's products, why are you trying ubuntu, Kakurady?
[11:41] <Terminus> laughlin: apt-cache shows me kismet here. and kismet is available in the universe repo. like i suggested to you earlier, enable the universe and multiverse repos.
[11:41] <java_dev> how can i setup a name server something like ns1.something.com and ns2.something.com?
[11:41] <Kakurady> Because it's way too cool compared to Windows.
[11:41] <Terminus> ubotu: tell laughlin about repositories
[11:41] <dewbie> Im lazy and its easy to type waht could be better?
[11:41] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: Ksnapshot. Kmenu --Graphics --Screen capture
[11:42] <spikeb> haha Kakurady
[11:42] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, thanks
[11:42] <laughlin> Terminus: shit that's right i forgot
[11:42] <dewbie> coming from FreeBSD...
[11:42] <admiral_proFTW> ah
[11:42] <Kakurady> spikeb:And I'm using free software even before I used Linux, see...
[11:42] <spikeb> Kakurady: ah, that makes sense
[11:42] <dewbie> ok who has gnome and who has kde?
[11:42] <Kakurady> like, GIMP.
[11:42] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: it might not be Ksnapshot, i forget this ubuntu
[11:42] <dewbie> gnome
[11:42] <spikeb> dewbie: gnome
[11:42] <admiral_proFTW> kde
[11:42] <Terminus> dewbie: you can still use su - without a root password if you really want to. :)
[11:42] <N1GH4> gnome
[11:42] <unix_infidel> hey guys, quick question, does ubuntu ship with a dynamic association script with its wireless config
[11:42] <unix_infidel> eg with iwconfig
[11:43] <apokryphos> dewbie: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter, please :)
[11:43] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, GIMP image editor?
[11:43] <admiral_proFTW> no
[11:43] <Taru> synaptic it?
[11:43] <Taru> maybe i dont havei t
[11:43] <dewbie> fine
[11:43] <Taru> ooh
[11:43] <admiral_proFTW> look for screen capture
[11:43] <Kakurady> Saves me  from adobe products =^n_n^=
[11:43] <Taru> it says take screenshot of your desktop
[11:43] <Taru> do that?
[11:43] <dewbie> can't get this graphics driver installed so I bs around a bit sorry
[11:43] <admiral_proFTW> taru: mine is called "Ksnapshot"
[11:43] <admiral_proFTW> yea
[11:43] <Taru> k
[11:44] <Xyloc> Bye evrybody
[11:44] <Besso> KAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF THERE IS POSSIBILITIS TO INSTALL SKYPE ON A 64BIT MACHIN
[11:44] <Taru> how do i send?
[11:44] <Mortal`> Does anyone have / know how to get a screenshot of the Ubuntu login-screen? I need to show others because it's so sexy. I've tried VNC, but the server doesn't run when noone is logged in, and when I choose "LOg in as different user" the screen doesn't update on the VNC client
[11:44] <neo_> bye everyone
[11:44] <neo_> quit
[11:44] <apokryphos> Besso: drop the caps, please.
[11:45] <unix_infidel> sorry, about that.
[11:45] <Besso> OK
[11:45] <Kakurady> Mortal`: Try a digital camera!
[11:45] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: upload it to photobucket
[11:45] <Xyloc_> bye everybody, great to be here
[11:45] <unix_infidel> what did you guys mean by /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:45] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok
[11:45] <dewbie> so how do I compile something that won't compile?
[11:45] <VoX> besso: yes you can, but you need to use a 32bit chroot
[11:45] <MistaED> mortal`: you mean the normal 'ubuntu' login screen or is there a new updated dapper one?
[11:45] <Mortal`> MistaED, normal one
[11:45] <Mortal`> Kakurady, hehe, sure, I thought of doing that if I couldn't find another way :)
[11:45] <Besso> do you have som guide to it?
[11:45] <unix_infidel> when i get my device up it automatically associates to the closest AP
[11:46] <unix_infidel> i'm wondering what does ubuntu use? is it using a custom dynamic assocation script?
[11:46] <Kakurady> Well you can compile one from the source images using GIMP ^_^
[11:46] <dewbie> still waiting,,,
[11:46] <dewbie> :(
[11:46] <Mortal`> Kakurady, do you know where the source images are? :o
[11:46] <dewbie> Ive tried ./configure
[11:46] <dewbie> ./make
[11:46] <dewbie> and ./imake
[11:46] <MistaED> mortal`: i guess you could mock-up one from the data it uses to make it, like from system > admin > login window *shurgs*
[11:46] <Kakurady> No. I'm no experienced than you in using linux-based systems;
[11:46] <dewbie> nothing works
[11:46] <unix_infidel> anyone on my wireless assocation script quesiton?
[11:47] <admiral_proFTW> dewie: what are you compiling?
[11:47] <Kakurady> I'm used to Windows.
[11:47] <Kakurady> And I can't get X working.
[11:47] <pio> oui
[11:47] <VoX> Besso: have a look on the ubuntu forums
[11:47] <Mortal`> MistaED, do you know where those themes are hidden, and in which format?
[11:47] <MistaED> although whenever i pick it, it instantly closes under dapper o.O bug
[11:47] <pio> cm va tu?
[11:47] <apokryphos> Kakurady: what's the problem?
[11:47] <dewbie> intel 945GM PCI Express video
[11:47] <VoX> Besso: there's a few guides on there
[11:47] <apokryphos> !fr
[11:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:47] <Terminus> dewbie: you can't just bash on something and expect it to work. read and understand the documentation. :)
[11:47] <admiral_proFTW> what is that?
[11:47] <MistaED> mortal`: i'm guessing /usr/share/gdm
[11:47] <pio> allo
[11:47] <Kakurady> Can't install ATi's prop******(can't spell it) drivers.
[11:48] <dewbie> geesus
[11:48] <Terminus> Kakurady: proprietary. :)
[11:48] <apokryphos> Kakurady: are you following the guide?
[11:48] <dewbie> Im kind of in a hurry
[11:48] <Kakurady> Thanks, Terminus.
[11:48] <admiral_proFTW> Kakurady: propriety*
[11:48] <Kakurady> I was following the readme instead...
[11:48] <dewbie> whats the man page for configureing then
[11:48] <apokryphos> Kakurady: /msg ubotu ati
[11:48] <Mortal`> MistaED, sweet! I'll start Gimp rightaway :D thanks a lot!
[11:48] <Kakurady> Not needed.
[11:48] <Terminus> dewbie: not reading the docs and trying to build something takes a lot longer.
[11:48] <admiral_proFTW> dewbie: read the install file
[11:49] <MistaED> mortal`: np, or you could just yoink one from osdir.com ;)
[11:49] <unix_infidel> anyone for my dynamic assocation question...whenever i get my wireless device up it automaticlaly associates to the closest unencrypted wireless AP, how does it do that....
[11:49] <Terminus> dewbie: there's no manpage. the developer usually provides documentation on how to build stuff.
[11:49] <dewbie> if you read it you will see what I am still here for
[11:49] <unix_infidel> someone mentioned /etc/network/interfaces
[11:49] <Terminus> dewbie: URL for the source?
[11:49] <Kakurady> I guess I didn't understand the guide at first. I couldn't use apt-get because I didn't have PPPoE configured.
[11:49] <Mortal`> Oh yea, another question: How do I start an application from Terminal without having it hook the Terminal screen?
[11:49] <auser> Mortal`: add a & at the end
[11:49] <Mortal`> auser, thanks
[11:49] <laughlin> Terminus: another question: i just edited  my /boot/config-2.6.12-9-386 and set CONFIG_SMP=y, is that all i need to do to enable SMP, as i noticed that by default it was disabled
[11:50] <Kakurady> And I can't get it configured w/o luck.
[11:50] <Sub> Mortal`, Alt_F2 and clcik "run from terminal2
[11:50] <Mortal`> Sub, I meant the opposite, which can be achieved by adding a & at the end in Terminal (as auser just told me)
[11:51] <auser> Hello folks anybody here who'd be willing to help with a "X" Problem?
[11:51] <Sub> oh you mean run it seperateof the terminal? i thought u meant run it without opening a terminal first :D
[11:51] <Sub> auser, what kind of problem?
[11:51] <Sub> I may be able to help
[11:51] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/momo87_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot.png
[11:51] <Terminus> laughlin: ummm... i'm not sure. i haven't had to compile a kernel in a long time. are you running breezy or dapper?
[11:51] <auser> Sub: X starts, but all i get is a Blank screen..
[11:51] <dibblego> I just switched my Ubuntu machine from wireless to ethernet and now the network is extremely slow, any ideas why?
[11:51] <laughlin> 5.10
[11:51] <SS2> hi, I have problems on downloading the latest ubuntu rc with bittorrent, error: rejected by the tracker <-- why that?
[11:51] <Sub> auser, you dont get any X errors?
[11:52] <Kakurady> Why I can't copy files to my other partition as a user?
[11:52] <auser> Sub: no sadly no errors and only some WW in the log
[11:52] <Kakurady> drwxr-xr-x  13 root root 8192 2006-05-26 17:07 sda2
[11:52] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: err click on hda no sda
[11:52] <admiral_proFTW> not*
[11:52] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok
[11:52] <Terminus> laughlin: hmmm... not sure if the server kernels are in breezy. i think those have SMP support. try searching for linux-image-server.
[11:52] <Sub> auser, and your monitor is confgiurred correctly in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:52] <admiral_proFTW> auser: run it in fail safe terminal
[11:52] <SS2> nobody that uses the torrent of ubuntu to geht the iso?
[11:52] <dewbie> good god
[11:53] <Sub> auser, cuz the wrong horiz/vert sync or resolution can cause blank screen
[11:53] <dewbie> wtf am I worried about, it doesn't support my resolution anyway
[11:53] <auser> Sub: yea i belive so, in as much as it's a generic monitor, that does only 3 different resolutions..
[11:53] <admiral_proFTW> asuer: or the wrong drivers
[11:53] <dewbie> 1440x900 is native 1280x1024 is their max
[11:54] <auser> Sub: any suggestions for "known to work with anything" (640x480)?
[11:54] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/momo87_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot-1.png
[11:54] <fatima> oui
[11:54] <Sub> auser, what gfx card u got? Nvidia?
[11:55] <auser> Sub: naw integrated i830m card (uses i810 driver)
[11:55] <Sub> ahh, was gonna say fall back to the nv driver, sometimes fixes things for me
[11:55] <richiefrich> auser do u have modlines in your xorg.conf
[11:56] <auser> Sub: funny thing is it was working beautifully befor i installed a dapper beta
[11:56] <cA1mAn> how to have copied (ctrl+c) things STAYING in the clipboard, even when closing the app where it was copied from?
[11:56] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: your HD isn't registeing
[11:56] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, :O
[11:56] <admiral_proFTW> auser: your card
[11:56] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, What do I do now?
[11:56] <richiefrich> auser  whats in your xorg.conf would u pastebin that
[11:56] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: let me reserach
[11:56] <auser> admiral_proFTW: i830m
[11:56] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok
[11:57] <H0lyD4wg> how do i keep mounted partitions from appearing on the desktop?
[11:57] <auser> richiefrich: i cant at the moment as i'm in "single user"
[11:57] <richiefrich> auser  whats that mean
[11:57] <richiefrich> auser  goto pastebin.ca uload the file
[11:58] <auser> richiefrich: simple: if you boot in "recoverymode" you only get one terminal (in which i'm typing now) and cant swith with Alt+Fx..
[11:58] <Sub> richiefrich, hes in a shell, not X
[11:58] <auser> richiefrich: will do, join u later,
[11:58] <richiefrich> Sub so
[11:58] <auser> Sub: correct!
[11:58] <richiefrich> Sub links
[11:58] <admiral_proFTW> can someone read this: http://linux.pastebin.com/738918
[11:58] <Sub> richiefrich, how can he copy paste?
[11:58] <admiral_proFTW> how bit is hda1
[11:59] <richiefrich> sub use links
[11:59] <admiral_proFTW> NWM
[11:59] <Sub> richiefrich, i kno what links is
[11:59] <admiral_proFTW> Taru:your entire Hd is one partition
[11:59] <richiefrich> Sub use links   goto  patebinbin.ca
[11:59] <Sub> but u cant copy xorg and paste it into pastebin in links.
[11:59] <richiefrich> it has an UPLOAD
[11:59] <cA1mAn> how to have copied (ctrl+c) things STAYING in the clipboard, even when closing the app where it was copied from?
[11:59] <richiefrich> feature
[11:59] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, O.O
[11:59] <Sub> oh does it?
[11:59] <admiral_proFTW> do you have your files saved somewhere else or are you files only on your computer
[11:59] <richiefrich> yes'
[11:59] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, what you think should happen?
[12:00] <Sub> anyway hes gone
[12:00] <richiefrich> Sub  ppl  dont look at that page i guess :P
[12:00] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: well ideally, you save your files to an external HD (your ipod might work, not sure)
[12:01] <admiral_proFTW> and then you can reduce your partition using gparted
[12:01] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, there is nothing to save here, i just installed this fresh linux today.
[12:01] <Terminus> admiral_proFTW: around 80.4GB.
[12:02] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, i just want to be able to put 20 gigs on windows and rest to linux, and easily go between OS whenever.
[12:03] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: okay
[12:03] <admiral_proFTW> then use gparted
[12:03] <Waerner> Hi! How do I set permissions for all users to a directory?
[12:03] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok
[12:03] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, already there
[12:03] <Waerner>  chmod somethinghereIguess directoryname   ?
[12:03] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: to reduce your partition to a 60 gb one and create a 20 GB unallocated block
[12:04] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok
[12:04] <Tross> What is UTB-8? or something like that
[12:04] <njan> Waerner, what are you trying to let users do?
[12:04] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, how do i unallocate?
[12:04] <Terminus> Tross: UTF-8 is a character encoding method. it extends ascii i think.
[12:05] <Waerner> njan: Browse everything, and let them write. I have a directory which shall work as a "dump" on my local network
[12:05] <Tross> Teminus: Someone told me to "take it away" how i am suppose to do that. And should i?
[12:06] <njan> Waerner, if you want the entire world to be able to write to a directory, you can chmod -r 777 directory, which will give Owner, Group, World all read/wite/execute permission
[12:06] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: then install Xp in that partition, after that boot to an install CD
[12:06] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, it wont let me make a partition table in the big drive hmm
[12:06] <Waerner> njan: As long as they're system users?
[12:06] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, doesnt have much options
[12:06] <miweit00> hi
[12:06] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: and ue that install CD partitioner to delete the 60Gb partition and create a new one
[12:06] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, im on /dev/hdc
[12:07] <achandra> Hello.. is there a basic firewall that comes installed with ubuntu??ie even after enabling ssh it appears that i am being blocked by machine..
[12:07] <Waerner> njan: Thanks alot =)
[12:07] <phibxr> achandra, firestarter.
[12:07] <njan> Waerner, but you'd be better off doing it by group and adding all the users to a particular group and then doing 'chown -r you:yourgroup directory' and then chmod -r 775 directory, which would make it writable to yourgroup but only readable to anyone not in it
[12:07] <phibxr> achandra, or, well. i think you have to install it.
[12:07] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: link me to photobucket again please
[12:07] <Waerner> njan: thanks!
[12:07] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok
[12:07] <kbendahm> slt
[12:07] <miweit00> i have a problem: my ubuntu-installation (Dapper, beta2 amd64) stops after configuring the network.
[12:07] <phibxr> achandra, no firewall in your router or something?
[12:07] <kbendahm> alo
[12:08] <njan> achandra, what's the output of netstat -avlp |grep ssh?
[12:08] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/momo87_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot-1.png
[12:08] <njan> achandra, (run using sudo, so 'sudo netstat -avlp |grep ssh')
[12:08] <achandra> yeah the local port 22 is open... but with :::22
[12:08] <achandra> that should be good right?
[12:08] <Terminus> Tross: why would you want to remove it?
[12:08] <Kakurady> If I use apt-get to install a package will it install other packages needed for the package?
[12:09] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: you should be on dev/hda
[12:09] <Tross> Terminus: Cause one i OP in a channel told me to. What happens if i do?
[12:09] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, i see hdc and sda
[12:09] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, thats it
[12:10] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: what i suggest you do is just create an installation of Xp (or whatver OS)
[12:10] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: then use partition magic to create a 60 Gb partition and install Linux there
[12:10] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok so boot xp cd
[12:10] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok cool, will do thanks
[12:10] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, be back later
[12:10] <Terminus> Tross: the OS will probably default to C. it wouldn't show funky chars in IRC if you don't have an english keyboard for example.
[12:10] <richiefrich> fdick
[12:11] <richiefrich> fdisk
[12:11] <admiral_proFTW> Taru: if you have problems, admiralprim3 on AIM
[12:11] <Doat> richiefrich, lol
[12:11] <richiefrich> Doat typo
[12:11] <Taru> admiral_proFTW, ok thank you so much^^
[12:11] <Tross> Terminus: I have an Swedish keyboard. So should i do that?
[12:11] <Tross> a*
[12:11] <admiral_proFTW> np
[12:12] <Terminus> Tross: maybe you can change it to en_US.UTF-8 instead. you'll lose the swedish chars though. that's probably why the OPs in the other channel told you to remove it, coz the IRC clients can't handle unicode.
[12:12] <Terminus> *their
[12:12] <Cin> Wow! New version of Xgl. ^_____^ Just got from upgrade. Not sure how new... but it's more stable, and works *PERFECTLY* on KDE.
[12:13] <Tross> Terminus: How am I do then?
[12:14] <Tross> Terminus: Sorry for my english.
[12:14] <roman> halloo
[12:14] <Terminus> Tross: AFAIK, the env vars for that is in /etc/environment. change the values for LANGUAGE and LANG. then logout and login again.
[12:15] <Terminus> Tross: maybe there's another way to do that in gnome. not so sure though. i'm using KDE right now.
[12:15] <Terminus> Tross: should be something like keyboard or language options.
[12:15] <richiefrich> Cin i wish i could use it with e
[12:15] <roman> DEUTSCHER UBUNTUSERVER BITTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:15] <Terminus> Tross: or regional or whatever. you know what i mean...
[12:16] <Flannel> !de
[12:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[12:16] <Tross> Terminus: I can't find anything like that.  But i hope i fins something soon. bye
[12:16] <richiefrich> Flannel i got all my css sorted out, and im all 'strict' complaint
[12:16] <Flannel> richiefrich: take it to #css
[12:17] <richiefrich> Flannel i was just tellin u
[12:17] <Cin> richiefrich, "e"?
[12:17] <richiefrich> Cin enlightenment
[12:17] <Flannel> richiefrich: ah, alright then.  Good job ;) and Congrats
[12:17] <Cin> Ohhh.
[12:17] <richiefrich> Flannel :)
[12:17] <Cin> richiefrich, you can't? Have you tried it?
[12:17] <kholerabbi> What do People think about Google en Ubuntu: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/31/google_goes_desktop_linux/ ???
[12:18] <richiefrich> Cin  it won't  and yes no go
[12:18] <Cin> :~(
[12:18] <richiefrich> Cin and i like e to much to install gnome or kde
[12:19] <miweit00> kholerabbi: i don't like google, i prefer ask
[12:19] <Cin> richiefrich, I wouldn't have thought you needed gnome or kde to run it.
[12:19] <Cin> richiefrich, I mean... compiz is a window manager in itself.
[12:19] <Cin> >.>
[12:19] <_mason> !nvidia
[12:19] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:19] <richiefrich> Cin it only works in GNOME kde or xfce4  atm
[12:20] <richiefrich> Cin not even fluxbox
[12:20] <Cin> richiefrich, ah okay.
[12:20] <Cin> richiefrich, only a matter of time though, eh?
[12:20] <richiefrich> Cin maybe for fluxbox but not e  compiz acts as a wm and e fights it
[12:21] <richiefrich> Cin without compiz theres no point, no cool options
[12:21] <Cin> richiefrich, :-(
[12:21] <richiefrich> Cin so i screwed
[12:22] <Cin> richiefrich, I'm hoping it's stable enough to run... like... without crashing every 14 minutes like the last version. But it seems a lot better (this update I just did) with shit loads more features. If it's stable I'll run it from now on. xD
[12:23] <richiefrich> Cin nice, i have it installed but i would need to get some GNOME stuff to run it again, cause i dont use it, and i hate metacity :P
[12:23] <Cin> Hehe.
[12:27] <samuel> hello all
[12:27] <soundray> Hi samuel
[12:28] <Cin> Maybe this gets asked a lot. Will Xgl & compiz be included with the next Ubuntu version --after dapper-- if it's stable?
[12:28] <Cin> I know it's in the repos. now.
[12:28] <Flannel> Cin: you should ask in #ubuntu+1 or -offtopic
[12:28] <Cin> Flannel, will do!
[12:28] <samuel> im trying to get ubuntu 6 for amd but cant tell the difference between rc-arternate and rc-desktop, what is alternate release?
[12:29] <cA1mAn> hello, how can i make each profile/account use its smtp-server (outgoing)?
[12:31] <Cin> ohoel_, while I'm here. How do you change what version of Java is used, like to IBM or whatever?
[12:31] <Cin> Erm, ignore that ohoel_ -- I meant to say "oh".
[12:32] <Flannel> samuel: you should get the release candidate.  And, this page: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06 gives a paragraph about what the alternate CD does.  I believe that the alternate one is the old textmode installer.  But, the terminology has changed for the RC, it wasn't called that in beta.  And, for further questions, #ubuntu+1 please.
[12:32] <soundray> samuel: the alternative version has a text-mode installer. http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperrc
[12:32] <mabus06> FTP is checked in services, and I can do "ftp mabus.sytes.net" (my ddns) and it says connected, but then when I do anything it says "not connected"
[12:33] <[lastnight] > anyone know what this file is for: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/.mounted
[12:33] <[lastnight] > ?
[12:33] <samuel> Flannel, soundray thanks
[12:34] <[lastnight] > anyone know what this file is for: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/.mounted  <- recently been created, size 0, apparently for no reason
[12:34] <[lastnight] > and out of no where
[12:34] <[lastnight] > hmmm ?
[12:35] <Terminus> mabus06: i'm guessing you either have to use IPs or setup your own named. you can't use the dns servers outside your network to resolve an ip within your network.
[12:36] <soundray> [lastnight] , I don't know for sure, but could it be just a flag to indicate that the volatile modules dir is mounted?
[12:36] <[lastnight] > thanks, i'll look into that
[12:36] <mabus06> Terminus: What? I can ssh/telnet/ping mabus.sytes.net just fine, I don't think that is the problem if I understand you right
[12:37] <jwizzman> Can anyone help me mount ntfs and sata disks?
[12:37] <Terminus> mabus06: i was assuming ddns meant dynamic dns. i guess i'm wrong. sorry.
[12:37] <VoX> jwizzman: mount </dev/device> <mount point>
[12:38] <VoX> jwizzman: for example
[12:38] <soundray> samuel, have you tried unplugging all unnecessary usb devices?
[12:38] <H080J03> k i have installed ubuntu on my computer on to a brand new hard drive, i want to boot in to windows on my old hard drive but can't becuase grub wont see the old hard drive, how do i make grub see the old hard drive?
[12:38] <VoX> jwizzman: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/example
[12:38] <mabus06> Terminus: It's dynamic dns in that, my router updates it to dyndns.com (or it might be no-ip.com, I forget) whenever my IP changes.
[12:38] <samuel> soundray, yes, no devices plugged in, not even the mouse
[12:39] <[lastnight] > soundray: thanks. -peace-
[12:39] <soundray> samuel: have you got an Intel sound device?
[12:39] <H080J03> does any one have an answer to my question?
[12:39] <Terminus> mabus06: i've got dynamic dns here too. i can't even use my external IP to access servers on my network. that's why i just use private IPs here and the hostname outside.
[12:40] <samuel> no, but a motherboard with pci maps, ga-2cewh
[12:40] <samuel> gigabyte
[12:40] <soundray> !tell H080J03 about patience
[12:40] <mabus06> Terminus: Well regardless, I get the same problem when I "ftp localhost"
[12:40] <H080J03> lol
[12:41] <Terminus> mabus06: what ftp daemon are you running?
[12:41] <mabus06> Terminus: proftpd
[12:41] <soundray> samuel: you could try to narrow down on which module causes the failure, then blacklist that module in /etc/hotplug
[12:41] <dou213> hey guys, how can i search for channel names?
[12:42] <Flannel> da-drew: dou213 /msg chanserv list #*searchword*
[12:42] <samuel> soundray, thanks, ill try that, but tomorrow, i have to get at least 3 hours in before work!!!
[12:42] <samuel> :)
[12:42] <samuel> gnight
[12:42] <samuel> thx for the help
[12:42] <jwizzman> ok, It says: dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/hda1
[12:42] <soundray> H080J03: first you need to make sure that your hard drives don't interfere with each other. How are they connected?
[12:42] <H080J03> IDE
[12:42] <Terminus> mabus06: sorry. got zero experience there. last ftpd i used was vsftpd. and that was over 3 years ago. nowadays, http seems to work fine for me.
[12:42] <H080J03> one is slave one is master
[12:42] <soundray> H080J03: more detail?
[12:42] <soundray> ah
[12:43] <soundray> H080J03: jumpers set correctly?
[12:43] <H080J03> slave = ubuntu  master = windows
[12:43] <Flannel> H080J03: primary or secondary?
[12:43] <H080J03> yea
[12:43] <H080J03> i can see the drives stuff on ubuntu, cuz i mounted it
[12:43] <H080J03> but GRUB don't see it
[12:43] <Flannel> H080J03: primary or secondary IDE?
[12:44] <H080J03> hmm
[12:44] <H080J03> i think secondary
[12:44] <H080J03> should be
[12:44] <mabus06> Can anybody help me to get ftp working? I have proftpd installed and enabled in services. When I type 'ftp localhost' or 'ftp myhostname' or 'ftp myip' it says 'connected', but then when I type anything it says "not connected"... can anyone offer some advice?
[12:44] <richiefrich> H080J03 pastbin your grub.conf
[12:45] <H080J03> k
[12:45] <Opticalia> disable any firewall etc.
[12:45] <richiefrich> H080J03 mene.lst   <-- same file
[12:45] <jwizzman> hmmm...
[12:45] <soundray> H080J03: you need to add a new "title" section to /boot/grub/menu.lst . There is an example in the commented section that you can copy verbatim.
[12:45] <richiefrich> H080J03   whats the windows one ?  hda#  ?
[12:46] <richiefrich> hdb# ?
[12:46] <H080J03> where is grub.conf
[12:46] <H080J03> can't find it in etc
[12:46] <richiefrich> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:46] <richiefrich> H080J03 ^^
[12:48] <H080J03> http://pastebin.com/738982
[12:48] <richiefrich> H080J03 and i need to know what windows is on please -->  fdisk -l
[12:48] <jwizzman> anyone else have any help on mounting harddisks?
[12:48] <H080J03> windows is on hda
[12:49] <richiefrich> hda? what 1.2.3
[12:49] <H080J03> 1 and 2
[12:50] <H080J03> 1 is the install tho
[12:50] <richiefrich> so hda2
[12:50] <soundray> H080J03: copy lines 39-42 and paste them at the very end of the file, and remove the # signs.
[12:50] <soundray> H080J03: after that, you will be able to boot Windows from your last grub menu entry.
[12:51] <richiefrich> H080J03  add that to that file  http://pastebin.ca/59010
[12:51] <H080J03> no windows is installed on hda1
[12:51] <H080J03> thank you very much
[12:51] <richiefrich> rootnoverify (hd0,1)  <-- change to  -->  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[12:51] <richiefrich> H080J03 ^^
[12:51] <H080J03> k
[12:51] <richiefrich> for hda1
[12:53] <juan> i will try to a free friendly desktop for xorg
[12:53] <Mortal`> How can I have a script executed after login?
[12:53] <soundray> Mortal`: call it from $HOME/.gnomerc
[12:53] <Mortal`> soundray, thanks
[12:53] <H080J03> k i am gonna try it out, if it fails ill probly gonna be back in here
[12:53] <juan> we will try to integrate the xorg to the linux kernel
[12:53] <soundray> Mortal`: or add it via System-Preferences-Session
[12:55] <visik7> cool, italian magistrates use beagle to indagate about soccer "mafia" :)
[12:55] <soundray> Mortal`: the latter if you've scripted any graphical interaction.
[12:55] <Mortal`> soundray, I just need it to open programs like Gaim, Xchat and Skype. I suppose I'll use the latter then?
[12:55] <soundray> Mortal`: yes.
[12:55] <Mortal`> soundray, Okay, thanks.
[12:57] <phrizer> what can i use to decompress a .rar ?
[12:57] <Gorbag> unrar
[12:58] <soundray> !rar
[12:58] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[12:58] <jwizzman> ok, got my hda1 and sda1 working but is there any way I could get write permission?
[12:58] <jonah> hi guys trying to ./configure a newer release of tellico but it's giving me an error: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0)  (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! CAn anyone please help me out?
[12:59] <Sub> jonah, "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt"
[01:00] <soundray> jwizzman: if they are NTFS, no.
[01:00] <jwizzman> hmmm...i see
[01:00] <jonah> Sub: i'm getting some kind of crazy error when i try that - don't know what's going on with my sources!!
[01:01] <soundray> jwizzman: create a FAT32 partition to exchange data with Windows, or use an ext2 filesystem driver for Windows.
[01:01] <jwizzman> k, sounds good, thanks
[01:01] <jonah> Sub: http://pastebin.com/739003
[01:02] <Sub> ahh, you dont have a recent enough version of qt-mt
[01:02] <qt> why are you guys always talking about me :P
[01:02] <Sub> : Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0)
[01:03] <octan> any bash gurus here?
[01:03] <spikeb> i don't know - we should be talking about gtk
[01:03] <jonah> Sub: any ideas how i can get around this?
[01:03] <chrisx2> hey, how would i auto mount my Windows Partition? and how would i install KDE?
[01:03] <Sub> jonah, not sure, what are you trying to install?
[01:03] <richiefrich> qt  your popular
[01:03] <octan> can someone help me.. i need to rewrite a small bash script snippet.. http://pastebin.com/738996
[01:03] <gnomefreak> chrisx2: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <chrisx2> thanks gnomefreak
[01:04] <jonah> Sub: a collections manager called tellico, is there a way i can install a more uptodate qt?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell chrisx2 about mount
[01:04] <chrisx2> thanks(Y)
[01:04] <mabus06> Can anybody help me to get ftp working? I have proftpd installed and enabled in services. When I type 'ftp localhost' or 'ftp myhostname' or 'ftp myip' it says 'connected', but then when I type anything it says "not connected"... can anyone offer some advice?
[01:04] <Sub> jonah, yes, but you would need to compile from source
[01:04] <gnomefreak> chrisx2: the link for help mounting is in you pm
[01:04] <Sub> jonah, look for lib-qt-mt on the web
[01:04] <stian> --> can anyone here help me? I get /target/var/log/bootstrap.log   fail ;S
[01:04] <chrisx2> gnomefreak, i see it thanks
[01:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:04] <jonah> Sub: oooh, hmm i can't get it through synaptics or something?
[01:04] <richiefrich> H080J03  it work
[01:04] <H080J03> yea
[01:04] <richiefrich> H080J03  nice
[01:05] <H080J03> i booted into windows and it crashed
[01:05] <richiefrich> what did windows ?
[01:05] <H080J03> i got mad and went back to ubuntu
[01:05] <H080J03> yea
[01:05] <richiefrich> tahts windows for ou
[01:05] <H080J03> yea
[01:05] <H080J03> that is why i got linux
[01:05] <richiefrich> good to here
[01:05] <H080J03> yea
[01:05] <richiefrich> here/hear
[01:05] <H080J03> same thing
[01:05] <richiefrich> lol
[01:06] <soundray> jonah: you need to get the -dev version of libqt.
[01:06] <H080J03> yea i am tryn to get flash to work on wine
[01:06] <H080J03> so i had to get the registy vaules from windows
[01:06] <jonah> soundray, thanks - is this easy to do?
[01:06] <stian> --> anyone here can help me with error on install of "grunnsystem"
[01:06] <soundray> jonah: probably just 'sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev'
[01:07] <richiefrich> H080J03  now u must take the total plunge fdisk that windows partiton :P   <-- if u want to :P
[01:07] <soundray> jonah: or find it through synaptic
[01:07] <jwizzman> oki doki...next question: what package should I install to watch video and listen to mp3?
 norsk?
[01:07] <H080J03> oh i will
[01:07] <njan> jwizzman, vlc and amarok are what I use
[01:07] <H080J03> i am just transfering all my files
[01:07] <jonah> soundray, it says it's already the newest version
[01:07] <richiefrich> good to hear then u get more storage
[01:07] <njan> jwizzman, if you're using gnome, you might like rhythmbox or beep-media-player (which is like winamp)
[01:07] <H080J03> yea
[01:08] <l_> can someone give me an example command line command for compiling a c program?
[01:08] <jonah> soundray: "libqt3-mt-dev is already the newest version."
[01:08] <njan> l_, man gcc
[01:08] <octan> stian no one knows what grunnsystem means,, you must say basesystem :P
[01:09] <stian> octan: thanks you are good to translate ^^
[01:09] <soundray> jonah: what version? (Check with dpkg -l libqt3-mt-dev)
[01:09] <octan> lol
[01:09] <stian> neida
[01:09] <stian> men takk
[01:09] <octan> hviken feil fr du?
[01:09] <soundray> jonah: any reason why you don't install tellico through apt
[01:09] <soundray> ?
[01:09] <jwizzman> k, thanks I've found vlc, I'll try that
[01:10] <ohoel_> stian, octan #ubuntu-no takk ;)
[01:10] <stian> str at det er debootstrap program exited with an error
[01:10] <jonah> soundray: http://pastebin.com/739020
[01:10] <soundray> octan, what's the issue with that script?
[01:11] <octan> soundray look at it..
[01:11] <soundray> jonah: have you tried 'sudo apt-get install tellico'?
[01:11] <jonah> soundray: i got a prob with that cos i did install tellico through the add software option and the file i had to open then said my version of tellico was too old to open it - the file i originally made in suse 10 with tellico! i've since switched to ubuntu!
[01:11] <octan> soundray, executing the function within the function.. i dont think thats valid
[01:11] <jonah> soundray, so i do have tellico installed but i want to open this file!
[01:12] <H080J03> grr, any one in here have any luck with running flash, or dreamweaver with wine?
[01:13] <soundray> octan: case for a while loop, I think
[01:13] <l_> can someone help me? i am trying to compile a program and i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14666
[01:13] <finbar> can anyone help me fix my computer, a freind was trying to speed up my boot and they changed /etc/network/interfaces or something with a similar path and now it wont load properly after login screen
 how?  while loops are dangerus :P
[01:13] <soundray> jonah: the version in dapper is 1.0.3+SVNr327 -- would that be recent enough?
[01:14] <soundray> octan: sorry, I don't really have a suggestion for you.
[01:15] <jonah> soundray, i'm not sure really - can't remember which version i used in suse - guess it's worth a shot
[01:15] <laughlin> hello again. to the ubuntu community: ubuntu picks up my Prism2 card, loads the orinoco drivers and it works. but i want to use the hostap, so... would somebody point me to a good HOSTAP isntall guide for ubuntu. google isn't helping very much.
[01:15] <jonah> soundray, 0.13.3 is the breezy version i have
[01:16] <jonah> soundray, is it easy to update to dapper?
[01:16] <finbar> H080J03: ive also tried without any success
[01:16] <H080J03> hmm
[01:16] <H080J03> i am trying very hard
[01:16] <soundray> jonah: easy, but not guaranteed to work of course
[01:16] <soundray> !tell jonah about upgrade
[01:17] <Pyru> !tell Pyru about ndiswrapper
[01:17] <Pyru> thanks
[01:17] <Pyru> lol
[01:17] <H080J03> finbar, do you get the message please reinstall flash
[01:17] <jonah> soundray, is dapper in a pretty reliable state enough to use at the mo?
[01:18] <soundray> jonah: yes, I've been using it for months. But then, I'm reasonably good at troubleshooting.
[01:18] <finbar> H080J03, no, it complains that my version of windows is too old
[01:18] <H080J03> jonah, it is more stabler then windows
[01:18] <admin__> is there a guide on how to build a new 2.6.16.18 kernel for ubuntu anywhere ? (my usb wireless card locks up the current dapper kernel/drivers)
[01:18] <soundray> jonah: if you have to finish your PhD thesis in the next couple of months, I wouldn't upgrade.
[01:18] <H080J03> finbar, weird
[01:19] <soundray> jonah: if your PC is mainly used for entertainment, I would.
[01:19] <finbar> H080J03, and i cant change settings without wine or xwine crashing
[01:19] <H080J03> finbar, i did my flash 8 install on vista and treid to copy the install over to wine, but it is not working
[01:19] <l_> can someone help me? i am trying to compile a program and i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14666
[01:19] <finbar> k
[01:19] <finbar> can anyone help me fix my computer, a freind was trying to speed up my boot and they changed /etc/network/interfaces or something with a similar path and now it wont load properly after login screen
[01:19] <H080J03> finbar, i am not a wine expert but usally you can run the command winecfg
[01:20] <H080J03> and get a gui
[01:20] <H080J03> to config everything
[01:20] <finbar> H080J03: thats what keeps crashing
[01:20] <pedrocr> how do I add a user to a group from the command line?
[01:20] <soundray> finbar: "won't load properly" isn't a good description
[01:20] <finbar> just stops
[01:21] <H080J03> finbar, try and installing the version of wine from the repos
[01:21] <soundray> pedrocr: 'sudo adduser newuser existinggroup'
[01:21] <H080J03> not the version from winehq
[01:21] <finbar> i have
[01:21] <Mantice> Man im so pissed, my XviD videos dont work in windows the video lags like fuck
[01:21] <finbar> both
[01:21] <pedrocr> soundray: it's an existing user
[01:21] <H080J03> hmm
[01:21] <soundray> !tell Mantice about language
[01:21] <Mantice> sorry
[01:21] <Mantice> I just wasted 100 bucks S:
[01:21] <Mantice> :S
[01:21] <soundray> pedrocr: I know. I called it "newuser" because it will be new to that group.
[01:22] <H080J03> finbar, i know xwine and wine don't like each other tho
[01:22] <lilo_booter> anyone care to test a deb repo for me? (provides an unofficial/test build for breezy of jahshaka project and dependencies)
[01:22] <H080J03> i don't use xwine cuz i dont' know how
[01:22] <soundray> pedrocr: replace "newuser" with the name of the existing user, and "existinggroup" with the actual name of the group
[01:23] <soundray> Mantice: do you have an Ubuntu support issue we can help you with
[01:23] <soundray> ?
[01:23] <pedrocr> soundray: I knew that :)
[01:23] <soundray> pedrocr: great :) I thought I'd leave it no doubt...
[01:23] <finbar> H080J03: k
[01:23] <pedrocr> anyone have any tips on how to monitor the state of raid arrays in an ubuntu server?
[01:24] <pedrocr> I'd like to get a warning if a disk crashed or something
[01:24] <H080J03> finbar, if you stay in this room for a little while i will probly have flash running on wine in about a couple of hours
[01:24] <H080J03> so i can tell you how to do it
[01:24] <finbar> k
[01:25] <jeff_> I have a dual core Intel Pentium D processor, how can I get a dual core kernel for Ubuntu?
[01:25] <soundray> jeff_: are you on breezy?
[01:27] <jeff_> soundray, yes I am
[01:27] <House_MD> anyone tried the new linux picasa port yet?
[01:28] <soundray> jeff_: "apt-cache --names-only search linux-image 686 smp" should give you a list of kernels that get the best out of your system in 32-bit mode
[01:28] <jonah> hi guys i'm just updating my other pc to dapper, wow that update manager thing is a cool feature - i'm pretty backed up etc but i just wondered if i'll lose any settings in programs, evolution etc or if it'll update and keep these? also what will it do to my sources list?
[01:28] <MistaED> house_md: where do you get picasa2 for linux from?
[01:29] <House_MD> MistaED: you in the us or other?
[01:29] <soundray> jonah: your $HOME directory will be untouched by the upgrade. Keep a backup of your entire /etc directory somewhere.
[01:30] <MistaED> other, australia
[01:30] <Lunarctic> hola
[01:30] <Lunarctic> is there a way to just download a program with apt-get, and not install it?
[01:30] <soundray> Lunarctic: apt-get -d (look at man apt-get for more options)
[01:30] <House_MD> MistaED: heh, im in NZ, cause looks like google has blocked access to get it from outside the us at the moment
[01:31] <jeff_> soundray, thanks I'm installing linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp now. How do I set it as the active kernel on next boot?
[01:31] <Lunarctic> cool
[01:32] <soundray> jeff_: that'll take care of itself, if you haven't changed /boot/grub/menu.lst too much. Look at the installation messages - it should mention something about updating grub.
[01:33] <Lunarctic> it keeps looking at the filename as another command :/ "invalid operation thunderbird"
[01:33] <dou213> hey, i wanna LOAD -e in xchat a file which i've put in my /home/user/tmp directory... what's the command to put in XChat options?
[01:33] <soundray> jeff_: sounds like you're coming from some older Linux distribution that wasn't quite so slick and automated ;)
[01:33] <jeff_> soundray, I have dabbled in a few... :D
[01:34] <soundray> Lunarctic: you still have to tell it to "install", ie. 'sudo apt-get -d install mozilla-thunderbird'
[01:34] <admin__> how would I generate a ubuntu compat /boot/initrd.img ?
[01:34] <Lunarctic> ah ok :)
[01:34] <House_MD> MistaED: you get my pm?
[01:36] <H080J03> finbar
[01:36] <soundray> admin__: what are you trying to do?
[01:36] <H080J03> i got it to work
[01:37] <H080J03> finbar i downloaded a crack for flash and pachted the .exe
[01:37] <MistaED> house_md: pm as in a query? nope
[01:37] <H080J03> i have the crack and i am makeing a how to
[01:37] <House_MD> oh
[01:38] <karim> is there a way to make apt-build also build the static libraries it downloads to compile some packages ?
[01:38] <House_MD> never mind i post in here
[01:38] <House_MD> but what i did was use the google translator as a us proxy, so go here: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasa.google.com%2Flinux%2F&langpair=en%7Cfr&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
[01:38] <jonah> soundray, are there any major issues with dapper i should know about? bugs or is it pretty cool?
[01:38] <karim> because actually apt-build downloads the developpement libraries and doesn't builds them. I don't see the point of doing that exept if the arch is "all" for this libraries
[01:38] <MistaED> house_md: aha clever, cheers
[01:38] <l_> can someone please help me? i am having trouble compiling c programs
[01:39] <gnomefreak> l_: what is the problem?
[01:39] <l_> gnomefreak: http://altavista.digital.com/
[01:39] <l_> er, nevermind that
[01:39] <H080J03> finbar you there?
[01:39] <l_> gnomefreak: http://altavista.digital.com/
[01:39] <l_> argh
[01:39] <l_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14666
[01:40] <l_> that. is the error message
[01:40] <l_> i do not know much about compiling source
[01:40] <mabus06> Can anybody help me to get ftp working? I have proftpd installed and enabled in services. When I type 'ftp localhost' or 'ftp myhostname' or 'ftp myip' it says 'connected', but then when I type anything it says "not connected"... can anyone offer some advice?
[01:41] <soundray> jonah: I'm not aware of any critical issues on the breezy-dapper upgrade path.
[01:41] <jonah> soundray, thanks dude
[01:41] <gnomefreak> l_: that looks like a coding issue see if installing build-essential fixes that if not let me know and paste your code to pastebin
[01:41] <soundray> mabus06: does proftpd log anything in /var/log ?
[01:42] <l_> gnomefreak: i did install build-essential. i will paste the code for you now
[01:42] <gnomefreak> k ty
[01:42] <finbar> H080J03: i am here now
[01:42] <H080J03> k
[01:43] <vale_> hy
[01:43] <H080J03> it is working
[01:43] <finbar> cool
[01:43] <finbar> which version of flash
[01:43] <H080J03> 8
[01:43] <finbar> k
[01:43] <H080J03> here is how to do it
[01:43] <H080J03> flow this guid http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=3673&iTestingId=2683
[01:43] <finbar> ive got mx 2004 proffesional
[01:44] <H080J03> hmm
[01:44] <H080J03> in that case
[01:44] <l_> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14668
[01:44] <laughlin> would somebody point me in the direction of a hostap ubuntu tutorial, i cant seem to find a good one
[01:46] <Terminus> l_: interesting. =D
[01:46] <gnomefreak> l_: i dont see anything that would be causing those errors
[01:46] <mabus06> soundray: there is no 'ftp' or 'proftp' or any file like that in /var/log, and greping for 'ftp' in auth.log produces nothing
[01:46] <l_> i guess it just does not want to be comiled
[01:47] <l_> gnomefreak: would it matter which compiler/version i am using?
[01:47] <House_MD> MistaED: omfg they've used wine
[01:47] <l_> gnomefreak: i used cc
[01:47] <gnomefreak> l_: is it something you wrote?
[01:47] <l_> no, something i picked up from a security site
[01:47] <H080J03> finbar, follow this guied http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=35779 then go and find a crack for flash that replaces the flash.exe and then just run the .exe, it should work
[01:47] <soundray> mabus06: what about 'grep proftp /var/log/syslog' ?
[01:48] <H080J03> and for converting the reg file to asci just open it up in wines note pad and save it some where then import it
[01:48] <gnomefreak> i dont think so since it wasnt pre compiled for you but try gcc 3.4 or gcc 4.0 just to make sure
[01:48] <gnomefreak> let me see if i can get it to compile
[01:49] <MistaED> house_md: yeah, and it just froze and closed on me, they're too lazy to port it :(
[01:49] <finbar> k
[01:49] <MistaED> port it properly*
[01:49] <Seewai> can someone help me with english grammar? which of the following is correct: "can you send me a letter so I can wave it at whoever I need to", or "can you send me a letter, so I can wave it at whomever I need to"?
[01:49] <mabus06> soundray: nothing
[01:49] <mabus06> Seewai: What does "wave" mean in that context?
[01:49] <Terminus> gnomefreak: i think i just found a misplaced brace with that code. lines 118-121.
[01:50] <Seewai> it means show
[01:50] <l_> gnomefreak: no luck with gcc
[01:50] <Seewai> wave at ~= show to
[01:50] <l_> same errors
[01:50] <Seewai> whoever or whomever? I can never remember :)
[01:50] <H080J03> finbar, i am going to bed if it doesn't work please email me at H080J03 @t gmail d0t (com)
[01:51] <soundray> Seewai: both are correct in my opinion, but it's better with the comma.
[01:51] <House_MD> MistaED: well i have to admit its worked well for me so far, but that mixture of wine widgets and whatever else theyve used, looks nasty
[01:51] <soundray> Seewai: by the way, "to wave at" for "to show" is *very* informal.
[01:51] <Seewai> ok, thanks for your help
[01:51] <lilo_booter> Seewai: you could use 'so i can escalate the issue to the relevant personnel'
[01:52] <Terminus> l_: why is it function name, then two variable declarations before the opening brace of the function?
[01:52] <Frogzoo> ping?
[01:52] <void^> Terminus: old style declaration
[01:52] <finbar> k'
[01:52] <l_> Terminus: got me. i know very little about programming. maybe you could shed some light
[01:52] <soundray> Hi Frogzoo
[01:52] <Frogzoo> soundray: hi - bad lag
[01:52] <l_> they may be old programs. would that make a difference
[01:52] <Terminus> void^: yeah... i just realized that. stupid me. i just noticed that the parameters aren't typed.
[01:53] <spikeb> why are we talking about programming in here? heh
[01:53] <l_> where should i take my question then?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> l_: look at the lines the error gives you and match those lines with the code on the site
[01:53] <Frogzoo> l_: ##c mebbe
[01:54] <gnomefreak> rememeber thought 1 error in 1 line can cause multiple errors
[01:54] <spikeb> mind you, im not ocmplaining
[01:54] <void^> it compiles fine on freebsd btw, looks like you have a different netinet/tcp.h
[01:54] <MistaED> house_md: yeah, there's nice looking rendered fonts mixed with the clunky XP-like ones, 80mb for just picasa2 though...
[01:54] <MistaED> it looks like every port will have wine overhead with it :(
[01:55] <MistaED> (like if they port google-talk and earth)
[01:55] <Terminus> gnomefreak: my bad. it was old style function declaration, not a misplaced brace. >.<
[01:55] <spikeb> MistaED: blagh
[01:55] <gnomefreak> Terminus: yeah i looked at it
[01:55] <spikeb> MistaED: the good news is gaim is going to have googletalk voice support some year
[01:55] <Frogzoo> MistaED: wine is natively executed - there's no 'emulation' overhead
[01:55] <vladuz976> how can i add something to the beginning of every line of a file with sed?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> Terminus: its something they way a few things were called
[01:55] <MistaED> frogzoo: 80mb for picasa though? storage overhead
[01:56] <gnomefreak> its still early here :(
[01:56] <Frogzoo> MistaED: oh, sure
[01:56] <spikeb> MistaED: photomanagement software is NOT small
[01:56] <spikeb> heh
[01:56] <nearfar> it would be nice if we can have google-notebook in epiphany
[01:56] <Terminus> gnomefreak: different headers like void^ said i guess. i didn't actually try to compile it. just wanted to read it.
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Terminus: i got same errors as he did
[01:57] <spikeb> google should port thier software using wx*
[01:57] <gnomefreak> i think the owner of code screwed up personally
[01:57] <spikeb> i can see why they used wine though - saves them from having to choose gtk/qt/etc
[01:58] <kholerabbi> Dose anyone know a tutorial that would show me the basics of building/understanding a desktop environment on linux?
[01:58] <Pyru> !tell Pyru about ndiswrapper
[01:59] <spikeb> kholerabbi: you want to build your own desktop environment/
[01:59] <neck_> that would be really interesting :)
[01:59] <Bilford> Does Google like LInux
[02:00] <markrian> After updating APT's cache of the repos, archive.ubuntu.com doesn't validate
[02:00] <MistaED> spikeb: just looked through the /opt/picasa folder, picasa itself is about 23mb, the whole thing is 75mb, so wine is 52mb added to it XD crazy
[02:00] <markrian> And doing it again doesn't fix it. No matter what, archive.ubuntu.com's update doesn't validate - what's the problem?
[02:00] <spikeb> google likes multiple platforms
[02:00] <spikeb> MistaED: it's not just wine, they have their own gecko too
[02:00] <MistaED> yeah the gecko is taking up 14mb roughly
[02:00] <kholerabbi> No, but I would like to understand some of how its done :)
[02:00] <Bilford> Google released Picase for Linux yesterday
[02:00] <Bilford> Picasa
[02:01] <spikeb> kholerabbi: oh
[02:01] <Frogzoo> vladuz976: not the most terse, but you can 'sed -e 's/\(.*\)/blah\1/'
[02:01] <spikeb> kholerabbi: hmmm
[02:01] <MistaED> ohwell i'm happy, more encouragement for dad to convert :)
[02:01] <MistaED> he raves about picasa all the time
[02:01] <Firezip_> Guys when I try to install xfire through wine it says I need to log in as admin
[02:01] <Firezip_> but I am ana dmin
[02:01] <spikeb> i wish fspot was more stable
[02:02] <Firezip_> But I am an admin*
[02:02] <Mortal`> Hey. When I press Ctrl+Alt+any function key, what are they called, the things I switch between, sessions?
[02:02] <kholerabbi> Anyway, I was just contemplating the desktop... I meen? surely someone has come up with a better idea then this huge blank space since it was designed.. what 20 years ago?
[02:02] <vladuz976> Frogzoo: found sed 's/^/blah/g' file
[02:02] <Terminus> Bilford: looks like google took the picasa for linux page offline. :|
[02:02] <spikeb> Terminus: i can get there just fine
[02:02] <spikeb> http://picasa.google.com/linux/index.html
[02:03] <Terminus> spikeb: weird... it shows me a 404. maybe they're filtering by geoip?
[02:03] <Frogzoo> vladuz976: yes, much better
[02:03] <Terminus> spikeb: hah, it was the first comment on /. it's available in the US only.
[02:04] <kholerabbi> I get 404 too
[02:04] <kholerabbi> Can I block my IP, so I can download it :)
[02:04] <Frogzoo> vladuz976: actually 's/^/blah/'
[02:05] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: you could find an open proxy ;)
[02:05] <spikeb> kholerabbi: google for an anonymous proxy
[02:05] <Terminus> kholerabbi: i'm trying to use coral cache on it, hasn't loaded yet though.
[02:05] <Frogzoo> lol - why do they bother?
[02:07] <fasczzc> :)
[02:07] <neck_> hmm i got 404 too
[02:11] <ArthurDentN770> hi ppl
[02:11] <zeiman> hello which graphiccard  is the best under Linux   RAdeon9250, GeForce2MX400, RAGE128pro?
[02:12] <zeiman> for games
[02:12] <Obo> hello
[02:12] <gnomefreak> geforce IMHO
[02:12] <kholerabbi> Guys try: http://www.the-cloak.com/Cloaked/+cfg=32/http://picasa.google.com/linux/index.html
[02:12] <Frogzoo> zeiman: for 3D games - there's only nvidia - ATI drivers are crap
[02:12] <ArthurDentN770> could u help me? I installed dapper on my laptop, and I can do 'so root' from a terminal window
[02:13] <spikeb> !tell ArthurDentN770 about root
[02:13] <ArthurDentN770> It answer me 'Authentication failed'
[02:13] <hyphenated> ArthurDentN770: #ubuntu+1 until next week
[02:13] <ArthurDentN770> su root
[02:13] <ArthurDentN770> sory
[02:13] <Obo> i have two users in my ubuntu desktop, one who uses gnome (which has a root password) and the other who uses kde which doesn't. is it possible for the gnome user to login to kde and d/l packages for the kde user ? will all the settings set by the gnome user stick?
[02:13] <spikeb> check  your private message
[02:14] <hyphenated> Frogzoo: the ATI drivers work on my laptop. there's a bit of tearing, but I blame the card
[02:14] <spikeb> Obo: shouldnt matter what desktop the admin is using
[02:14] <zeiman> I'm working now with a GF2
[02:14] <Obo> what do you mean?
[02:14] <kholerabbi> What the? Google Picasa uses Wine? Why?!!
[02:14] <Obo> i mean, i'm the admin, if i logon to kde and change some settings.. will they last for the normal kde user?
[02:14] <spikeb> kholerabbi: easiest way for them to port it
[02:14] <hyphenated> Obo: he means it shouldn
[02:15] <spikeb> Obo: hmm
[02:15] <hyphenated> he means it shouldn't matter. ;-)
[02:15] <Frogzoo> hyphenated: yes, the ATI drivers work for 3D - but performance blows vis a vis windows - which is unacceptable IMHO
[02:15] <kholerabbi> Yeah, but wouldn't it be better in the long-run .. not to?
[02:15] <Terminus> zeiman: GF2 gives you the least headaches but i don't think it's powerful enough for newer games. just like it still can't handle newer games even under windows.
[02:15] <spikeb> Obo: if you want to install stuff, doesnt matter. if you want to change settings, it matters, those are account related
[02:15] <hyphenated> basically, packages have been installed. doing an 'update' + 'upgrade' of those packages is going to be a system-wide thing not an admin-only thing
[02:16] <vladuz976> Frogzoo: any idea how i can add to the beginning of columns in a file with fixed column width?
[02:16] <thux> Hi, in Dapper where to write modules that you don't want to load on boot?
[02:16] <Obo> ok, another question, if i logon as the kde user, which isn't admin, and i wanna install some packages, when it asks for the password, can't i use the admin password? it won't let me
[02:16] <hyphenated> Frogzoo: the et FPS were about the same on windows vs linux last time I checked
[02:16] <Jazznite> any one to tell me how open a BIN.file a new on UBUNTU sorry!!
[02:16] <Terminus> kholerabbi: one of the comments on /. was about that. wondering why they didn't just use wxwidgets etc.
[02:16] <Frogzoo> vladuz976: do your own homework ;)
[02:16] <Obo> jazznite, you don't have to open it, burn it
[02:16] <spikeb> Terminus: would have been more work
[02:16] <zeiman> terminus does cs or Wolfenstein not work?
[02:16] <Terminus> Obo: you need to add the user to your sudoers.
[02:16] <Jazznite> how??
[02:17] <Terminus> spikeb: oh...
[02:17] <Obo> oh..
[02:17] <Obo> gotcha thanx
[02:17] <Terminus> zeiman: hmmm... the old CS? should work. and i was running ET too so it's not a problem. runs fine on GF2.
[02:17] <hyphenated> Jazznite: all ".bin" files are different in their own way. if you tell us what it was you downloaded, we _might_ be able to help
[02:17] <spikeb> Terminus: they should have future-planned and written it in wxwidgets or gtk or qt to START with, i think.
[02:17] <spikeb> Terminus: the windows version included.
[02:18] <Terminus> spikeb: yeah... i thought wxwidgets would be the best solution for them though...
[02:18] <spikeb> Terminus: it would
 Obo: you need to add the user to your sudoers. is it under "users and groups"?
[02:18] <spikeb> Terminus: but since they didn't plan very well, they're stuck using wine so they can be lazy
[02:18] <spikeb> yes it is Obo
[02:18] <Obo> ok thank you
[02:18] <hyphenated> wxwindows may be cross-platform, but it still sucks
[02:18] <Terminus> Obo: oh, just add the user to the admin group.
[02:18] <spikeb> it sucks less than wine
[02:19] <Jazznite> Ok is from A17 bar tk
[02:19] <hyphenated> yes, not many things suck more than wine
[02:19] <Bilford> Picasa for Linux uses Wine internally
[02:19] <Frogzoo> hyphenated: WoW in wine rocks hard core
[02:19] <hyphenated> meh. my shell scripts invoking imagemagick will win over picasa anyday ;-)
[02:19] <MistaED> the actual rendering part of picasa, it looks very smooth in rendering like it is really opengl
[02:19] <spikeb> my problem with wxwidgets is they dont seem to follow themes.
[02:20] <spikeb> MistaED: wine can render to opengl
[02:20] <Hexidigital_> i think the only thing worse than wine.... is windows
[02:20] <spikeb> MistaED: so it is :)
[02:20] <Frogzoo> wine has huge potential - if only it could get more dev lurv
[02:20] <MistaED> yeah i know it can, and very well, just i'm not sure if picasa uses it
[02:20] <hyphenated> Frogzoo: I didn't even like WoW in windows, I doubt I'd like it in wine ;-)
[02:20] <spikeb> wine has lots of dev love, it's where it is thanks to that heh
[02:20] <Frogzoo> hee hee
[02:20] <spikeb> MistaED: probably does, they did some NEAT tricks with picasa
[02:21] <Almindor> ho
[02:21] <Almindor> where do I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[02:21] <Terminus> Frogzoo: i think a bigger problem than reverse engineering windows is emulating windows bugs. =D
[02:21] <Frogzoo> Almindor: it's an enviro variable - anywhere you like
[02:21] <Diiba> Hi.
[02:22] <hyphenated> Almindor: ~/.bash_profile if it's just for one user
[02:22] <Almindor> and where do I set it for all?
[02:22] <Terminus> Almindor: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$foo should work.
[02:22] <hyphenated> Almindor: the real question is "should I really change LD_LIBRARY_PATH?"
[02:22] <hyphenated> it's something you generally don't want to do
[02:22] <Healot> only in special cases
[02:22] <Frogzoo> Almindor: for all user processes? you could put 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=blah' in ~/.gnomerc
[02:23] <Jazznite> how i 'burn' a bin file, and whit what in UBUNTU the file is from A17bar.tk
[02:23] <Almindor> yes I should really change LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[02:23] <Almindor> I use alot of compiled stuff which installs info local
[02:23] <Almindor> *into
[02:23] <Frogzoo> Almindor: no - you should 'man ldconf'
[02:23] <Diiba> Btw, in xfce, with right click you open the applications menu.
[02:23] <Almindor> Frogzoo, no entry
[02:23] <Frogzoo> Almindor: no - you should 'man ldconfig'  - soz
[02:23] <Diiba> But when you use rox filer, it doesnt show it.
[02:23] <hyphenated> Almindor: not ld.so.conf instead?
[02:23] <Diiba> Anywhere.
[02:24] <Diiba> So, is there any script to enable the xfce menu in rox.
[02:24] <hyphenated> Almindor: basically, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is a horrible horrible hack, and if there's even the hope of a better way, you should choose that instead ;-)
[02:24] <Frogzoo> Almindor: in a nutshell, edit /etc/ld.so.conf & run ldconfig
[02:24] <Almindor> well, /usr/local/lib should be default
[02:24] <blue-frog> anyone familiar with setfacl?
[02:24] <Almindor> it's not my fault it's not
[02:25] <crazy_penguin> re
[02:25] <hyphenated> Almindor: icky. /etc/profile is the main one you'd want to change as a last-resort option
[02:26] <Almindor> Frogzoo, the format of the config is? (man ld.so.conf doesn't say anything)
[02:26] <Terminus> hyphenated: shouldn't it be /etc/environment?
[02:26] <Frogzoo> Almindor: it's just a list of directories
[02:26] <perpetualrabbit> does anyone here have tried debootstrap with dapper?
[02:26] <Almindor> ok so I just write them like that?
[02:26] <elkbuntu> if there is anyone using an IBM Thinkpad T21, could they please do me a favour and tell me what the IO address of the mini pci is?
[02:26] <hyphenated> Terminus: nope
[02:27] <jerware> fellaz.
[02:27] <Cin> !java
[02:27] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:27] <Terminus> hyphenated: i thought /etc/environment is the canonical location to set env vars since profile is bash specific...
[02:28] <Terminus> oh... and compatibles. heh
[02:28] <hyphenated> Terminus: /etc/profile is 'specific' to almost every shell ;-)
[02:28] <Frogzoo> Almindor: just 'sudo echo /usr/local/lib > /etc/ld.so.conf ; sudo ldconfig' should do it
[02:28] <Frogzoo> gotta go - I'll be back
[02:28] <Terminus> hyphenated: yeah... i just noticed. anyway, over here, all of the systemwide env vars are in /etc/environment. :)
[02:28] <hyphenated> Frogzoo: if it has to come first (ie: higher priority than /usr/lib) then he might have to change his environment variables
[02:28] <tuxuser19> i want to write some java scripts and run the scripts on Ubuntu 5.10 what is the development kit i have to download
[02:29] <Terminus> tuxuser19: javascript or java?
[02:29] <Sub> tuxuser19, "sudo apt-get install sun-jdk"
[02:29] <hyphenated> but I think it's safe to say that Frogzoo, Terminus and I all think it's a horrible thing to be messing with :-)
[02:29] <Almindor> ok thanks
[02:29] <tuxuser19> Terminus, java
[02:30] <Sub> sorrty tuxuser19  "sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5 "
[02:30] <Terminus> tuxuser19: go with Sub's suggestion. :)
[02:30] <tuxuser19> sub,so what are the commands to compile/exceute the scripts
[02:31] <Terminus> hyphenated: well, sometimes you need to. it's up to him to decide. :)
[02:31] <Sub> i have no idea, i just know that is the software dev kit :D, i think itz just "java fileyouwanttorun.jar"
[02:31] <hyphenated> Terminus: we can at least make him feel bad for messing with it ;-)
[02:31] <Terminus> hyphenated: oh... right. Frogzoo's solution is a lot better than setting env vars. hehe
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Sub: i thought it was har file.jar
[02:31] <hyphenated> IMO, messing with LD_LIBRARY_PATH is right up there with LD_PRELOAD
[02:31] <KenSentMe> has someone installed the video editing software Jahshaka?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> s/har/jar
[02:32] <Terminus> hyphenated: i thought you meant messing with ld in general. =D
[02:32] <Sub> gnomefreak, no idea, just guestimating
[02:32] <hyphenated> Terminus: more convenient, maybe. better, .. maybe.
[02:32] <tuxuser19> Sub, thanx fr the advise
[02:32] <Sub> java = lame imo
[02:32] <Sub> too slow.
[02:33] <Terminus> hyphenated: well, it just adds stuff to the defaults so where's the harm? unless it replaces and doesn't append. XD
[02:33] <Bilford> when will the first release of Edgy Eft be, would you estimate
[02:33] <Terminus> Sub: java the language seems nice. the VM, not so nice. =D
[02:33] <Sub> exactly :D
[02:34] <Sub> ill stick with python and C thankyou :D
[02:34] <spikeb> you can compile java to native code
[02:34] <spikeb> <3 gcj
[02:34] <Terminus> Bilford: i'd guess same schedule, it's either october or maybe pushed back a month coz of dapper?
[02:34] <hyphenated> Terminus: hmm, that's exactly my opinion of java
[02:34] <hyphenated> the language is fine, the VM is awful
[02:34] <Bilford> Terminus, no, I mean betas
[02:34] <Sub> spikeb it only contains a VM in the applicaiton, so you dont require a VM, doesnt it?
[02:35] <Terminus> Bilford: got me there. i have no idea.
[02:35] <spikeb> sub no. it can do as i said.
[02:35] <hyphenated> Terminus: and adding things to the dynamic loader's defaults is just going to mean adding _more_ things to the dynamic loader's defaults (rinse, repeat)
[02:35] <Bilford> Terminus, what do you mean, pushed back a month?  Isnt Dapper coming out June 1
[02:35] <hyphenated> Terminus: that's what I don't agree with. so the convenience is a short-term tradeoff
[02:35] <shoot> how to boot from cd ?
[02:36] <Terminus> hyphenated: i see...
[02:36] <Bilford> was Dapper supposed to come out May 1
[02:36] <hyphenated> no, it was supposed to come out in the middle of April
[02:36] <Sub> Terminus and Bilford , Edgy is out October as usual.
[02:36] <Terminus> Bilford: dapper was originally scheduled for an april 20 release but was pushed back 6 weeks.
[02:36] <hyphenated> and then got delayed until early June
[02:36] <Sub> Bilford, thats why the version is now 6.06 -> 6th month, 2006
[02:36] <Diiba> Btw, is is sure, that dapper is going out first o'june?
[02:37] <Bilford> Sub, 6th day?
[02:37] <Sub> 1st :D
[02:37] <apokryphos> Diiba: pretty much, yes, unless there are any major showstoppers
[02:37] <hyphenated> Diiba: as sure as the money you paid for it
[02:37] <Bilford> I guess the only thing coming out on the 6th is the new Omen movie
[02:40] <Jazznite> any one help me,please anew one UBUNTU
[02:41] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[02:41] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[02:41] <hyphenated> Jazznite: you haven't even hinted at what this mysterious .bin file might be
[02:41] <Jazznite> how i 'burn' afile,and whit what?? file from A17bar.TK
[02:42] <hyphenated> to a CDR? gnomebaker, k3b.. almost anything really
[02:42] <mabus06> quick how do I mount a usb drive
[02:42] <hyphenated> mabus06: plug it in, see what happens
[02:42] <Terminus> Jazznite: bin cd image? i'd guess run it through binchunker and then burn with whatever burn app you've got. see hyphenated's list.
[02:42] <hyphenated> mabus06: you should get an icon on your desktop or something
[02:43] <miter> i have downloaded a program, and untared it to a dir. Now how can I manually run the program? (it's not a source but a bin!)
[02:43] <Jazznite> Terminus, no a CD is fron A17bar.TK web
[02:43] <mabus06> hyphenated: only if I start the computer with it plugged in, otherwise I have to auto mount.
[02:43] <spikeb> miter: make whatever file you need to run executable, then run it
[02:43] <mabus06> hyphenated: but I have to leave in 10 minutes and I need these documents on my drive to bring to school to print
[02:43] <paradizelost> hey all, i know this doesn't belong here, but i'm getting an ordinal 54 could not be located in wsock32.dll error
[02:43] <miter> spikeb: how can i run it? double-click?
[02:44] <Terminus> Jazznite: well, if it's an ISO, burn it with any of the apps hyphenated mentioned. if it's a bin/cue convert it with bchunk first.
[02:44] <paradizelost> just wondering if anyone knows a quick fix.  it's preventing gaim/firefox from running
[02:44] <spikeb> miter: you can try that yeah
[02:44] <miter> spikeb: it's already made i think, as said, it's not the source
[02:44] <miter> nothing happens when double-clicking :-(
[02:44] <Jazznite> Terminus. Ok i will do, merci!!
[02:44] <hyphenated> miter: what is it?
[02:45] <Terminus> Jazznite: you're welcome. :)
[02:45] <Diiba> COuld someone tell me how to change file locations in terminal (or give link to tutorial.)
[02:45] <miter> kiGB : http://kigb.emuunlim.com/downloads.htm
[02:45] <hyphenated> Diiba: cd
[02:45] <Diiba> :F
[02:45] <Diiba> Mean like, some file to other location.
[02:45] <l> can someone tell me if there is a way to change the icons on the nautilus iconbar?>
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Diiba: do you want to move you or move the files?
[02:45] <Diiba> YES!
[02:46] <aLPHa_LeaK> Diiba, "mv" or "cp"
[02:46] <Diiba> Thank you.
[02:46] <Diiba> Ok.
[02:46] <Diiba> Thank you.
[02:46] <Diiba> Sorry my bad english.
[02:46] <Terminus> Diiba: change dirs? there's a newbie article in the current issue of free software magazine.
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Diiba: cp will copy them (to whereever) mv will move them
[02:46] <aLPHa_LeaK> mv is to move/rename and cp is to copy
[02:46] <Diiba> ok ty.
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Diiba: i would use cp just incase
[02:46] <miter> hyphenated: it's KiGB @ http://kigb.emuunlim.com/downloads.htm
[02:46] <Terminus> Diiba: you might want to read the other stuff in the mag too. you can just download it. it's a pdf.
[02:46] <Diiba> O.k.
[02:46] <hyphenated> miter: ubuntu has 'gndb' available as a gameboy emulator
[02:47] <hyphenated> miter: try that before the headache of random closed-source stuff
[02:47] <miter> ok, but sitll, how would it work?
[02:48] <miter> how to run a plain bin?
[02:48] <Besso> Someone that know how to fix the sound when playing media om Firefox FlashPlayer????
[02:48] <Timma> can anyone help me with installing mplayer?
[02:48] <spikeb> !tell Besso about flash
[02:49] <miter> how can i search the apt-get in command line?
[02:49] <hyphenated> Diiba: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz isn't the worst place in the world to start
[02:49] <HymnToLife> Timma> what's the problem ?
[02:49] <hyphenated> miter: apt-cache search foo
[02:49] <Terminus> miter: what does head "foo.bin|grep sh" say?
[02:49] <Diiba> Ok, ty :)
[02:49] <Terminus> miter: if the file starts with #!/bin/sh, you can either chmod +x it or sh foo.sh
[02:50] <Terminus> miter: sh foo.bin i mean.
[02:50] <miter> it's not *dot*bin but only "kigb" (not kigb.bin)
[02:51] <nubuntu> salve
[02:51] <Terminus> miter: "file foo.bin" might also help you determine what it is. if you're sure it's a binary, chmod +x foo.bin and ./foo.bin
[02:51] <miter> foo is the filename?
[02:51] <Terminus> miter: yes.
[02:51] <spikeb> yes
[02:52] <miter> it says
[02:52] <miter> kigb: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[02:52] <miter> so?
[02:52] <Terminus> miter: chmod it like i said above and then run it.
[02:52] <miter> chmod is for the permission, right?
[02:52] <Terminus> miter: yes. it also sets the execution flag.
[02:52] <miter> and *how* can i run it exactly?
[02:53] <spikeb> execute is a permission, Terminus :)
[02:53] <Terminus> spikeb: my bad. i'm sleepy. :p
[02:53] <miter> how can i run it?
[02:53] <Terminus> miter: like i also said above, ./foo assuming it's in your current dir.
[02:53] <miter> ok
[02:53] <spikeb> Terminus: you need to explain the terminal to miter a bit
[02:53] <spikeb> heh
[02:53] <l> can someone help me? i am getting this errr l@regularity:/etc/init.d$ mpd start
[02:53] <l> problems opening file start for reading
[02:54] <miter> what does "sh" make comapred to "./"?
[02:54] <Terminus> spikeb: good point. i don't know where to start.
[02:54] <spikeb> heh
[02:55] <miter> i get this error when typing ./kigb (in hte kigb dir): ./kigb: error while loading shared libraries: NL.so.1.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:55] <Terminus> miter: sh is for scripts written in sh. for an article on the console, please see the current issue of free software magazine, downloadable as a pdf.
[02:55] <spikeb> ahh ok
[02:55] <Terminus> (that's the only article i know) heh
[02:55] <spikeb> now i can help a bbit
[02:55] <Terminus> spikeb: ball is in your court with the libs. =D
[02:56] <l> i am having trouble with the mpd start command
[02:56] <l> that is the error i get
[02:56] <spikeb> ok miter, you need to install libnl
[02:56] <l> problems opening file start for reading
[02:56] <Terminus> i'm gonna go try getting some shut eye before i go to a party.
[02:57] <Mika_i_> what party and where?
[02:57] <spikeb> hmm
[02:58] <tRSS> need help? my resolution, out of the blue, has changed from 1024x768 to 800x600 just after a reboot? any idea, why this has happened?
[02:58] <Terminus> Mika_i_: birthday party at a bar. i'm getting smashed with all the drinking i've been doing this month. =D
[02:59] <Mika_i_> ok too faraway from finland
[03:00] <miter> spikeb: how can instal libnl?
[03:00] <spikeb> miter: i have no idea
[03:00] <Terminus> Mika_i_: yes, around 7 time zones ahead of you. =P
[03:00] <spikeb> miter: heh
[03:00] <Terminus> or is that 8?
[03:01] <tRSS> help, help!! with my resolution
[03:01] <Terminus> damnit. a friend just sent me a message saying he's on his way... what the hell, i'm still gonna take a short nap.
[03:01] <miter> is the only way to execute a file making "./FILE" ???
[03:02] <aLPHa_LeaK> miter, why?
[03:02] <miter> just want to know
[03:02] <HymnToLife> miter> sh file works in some cases
[03:02] <miter> spikeb: i have found libnl, it's in the folder, and it's also said in the readme how to isntall it
[03:03] <spikeb> miter: good :)
[03:04] <jonah> hi i just successfully updated my system to dapper, which looks awesome except that my display is the wrong resolution but looks ok in xorg.conf? can anyone please help me? thanks
[03:05] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[03:05] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[03:06] <miter> now i get this :-( : ./kigb: error while loading shared libraries: NL.so.1.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:06] <spikeb> miter: that's in the readme as well i think
[03:06] <Mantice> Could some one please help me my ubuntu cant install :(
[03:07] <jonah> sorry am i not supposed to talk dapper? i don't suppose anyone could still help me with my display and just pretend it's breezy? please?? hehe
[03:07] <alphakernel> Mantice: ... ok... you are going to need a hammer
[03:08] <AlinuxOS> hello all, is imac intel core duo supported on linux?
[03:08] <AlinuxOS> I'm thinking about buyng something from apple word.
[03:08] <AlinuxOS> I would like to use linux of course.
[03:08] <miter> rather buy a amd 64 duo
[03:09] <AlinuxOS> miter, why not an apple computer?
[03:09] <alphakernel> AlinuxOS: I don't think it's "supported" but if it's i386 processor I don't see why it an it wouldn't install
[03:09] <Mika_i_> http://qdb.us/60310
[03:09] <Mantice> why :(
[03:09] <miter> overpriced if you see what it actually really can
[03:10] <AlinuxOS> or if it not supported yet...maybe next year :)
[03:10] <Mantice> :P
[03:10] <spikeb> the core duo and core 2 duo processors kick arse.
[03:10] <Mantice> You know after ubuntu installs
[03:10] <alphakernel> Mantice: wut problems are you having installing?
[03:10] <AlinuxOS> so I have no space ..cause I'm a student
[03:10] <miter> athlon64x2 is a wise choice :-) (--> see the benchmarks, reviews, etc...)
[03:10] <Mantice> it configures the packages ?
[03:10] <AlinuxOS> I need something small and powerfull...
[03:10] <Mantice> Mine has locked up at 71 %
[03:10] <Mantice> on irc
[03:10] <Tomcat_> I wouldn't buy Apple if I ran Linux afterwards... there are other good Notebooks available.
[03:10] <AlinuxOS> with good video card to have xgl compiz support :)
[03:11] <miter> well don't buy apple then
[03:11] <alphakernel> AlinuxOS: why not just stick with the OSX
[03:11] <Mantice> Its done it alot of times
[03:11] <AlinuxOS> Tomcat_, yes you've right..but I don't like 5400rpm speed
[03:11] <miter> since it's new intel line is "too new" for linux&drivers
[03:11] <AlinuxOS> I have a laptop
[03:11] <Mantice> I tryed reburning the cd
[03:11] <Mantice> but no invail
[03:11] <AlinuxOS> but it's a great frustration for me :(
[03:12] <miter> AlinuxOS: thought about thinkpad?
[03:12] <alphakernel> Mantice: you try the stripped down  install?
[03:12] <miter> very long-life labtops
[03:12] <AlinuxOS> miter, with 5400 rpm?
[03:13] <AlinuxOS> miter, with 7200 rpm?
[03:13] <AlinuxOS> or 5400?
[03:13] <MisterN> hi
[03:14] <miter> 7200
[03:14] <Mantice> It says liblircclient.0    71% and nothing is happening what should I do
[03:14] <Mantice> that hard drive lights ant working
[03:14] <Mantice> should i put the cd in
[03:15] <AlinuxOS> miter, wow
[03:15] <AlinuxOS> so it's performant like a normal desktop pc right?
[03:15] <theD3viL> How to delete Sessions? I have agds (home made) and Default (system made)..how to delete agds?
[03:15] <miter> AlinuxOS: what do you exactly mean?
[03:15] <theD3viL> i cant select delete
[03:16] <AlinuxOS> miter, I need something mobile with desktop pc power :)
[03:16] <AlinuxOS> HD speed
[03:16] <miter> yeah so 7200
[03:16] <AlinuxOS> good video card
[03:16] <alphakernel> 10000
[03:16] <AlinuxOS> maximal linux support.
[03:16] <Healot> go on a SCSI II 10K RPM
[03:16] <miter> thinkpad are the best for linux support
[03:17] <Mantice> :S can any one help me I really want ubuntu to work
[03:17] <Chrisx1> hey i have a q, i have 2 network cars 1 wireless and eth0, how would i configure it so if i access a site it uses the wireless but stuff for servers uses eth0?
[03:18] <JoaoJoao> hello
[03:18] <vliedels> Hello i have a problem with booting with ubuntu. It starts booting, installing and then stops at: "retrieving netcfg"
[03:18] <mjg> I'm working on an software survey for the Edubuntu Study Content Team. If you have a minute, please take the sample survey and comment. Thanks. http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB225CK5BSC3B
[03:18] <Chrisx1> if i set wlan0 as default it kind of disables eth0
[03:18] <JoaoJoao> are ubuntu repositories offline?
[03:18] <alphakernel> Mantice: I have no idea what you are doing.. what are you installing ubuntu on
[03:18] <vliedels> error msg: there was a prob reading data from cd-rom, failed to copy file from cd-rom
[03:18] <papillon> miter: Toshiba is great fo Linux support, too. I'm on one of them righ now :)
[03:18] <AlinuxOS> miter, thank you for info! ;)
[03:18] <AlinuxOS> I think when there will be iMac Core Duo support
[03:19] <AlinuxOS> it will be really great.
[03:19] <AlinuxOS> I like very much this apple computers
[03:19] <Healot> btw Lenovo Thinkpad is good for Linux distros
[03:19] <vliedels> anyone got an idea what might have gone wrong? i tried 3 different cd's
[03:20] <miter> AlinuxOS: if you want a high quality , long-life laptop with enough power and excellent Linux support (ex- IBM ;-)), then really go for ThinkPad, they are REALLY GOOD, (but expensive)
[03:20] <AlinuxOS> ThinkPad Z60m 1.240,00
[03:20] <Chrisx1> hey i have a q, i have 2 network cars 1 wireless and eth0, how would i configure it so if i access a site it uses the wireless but stuff for servers uses eth0?
[03:20] <AlinuxOS> not bad
[03:20] <Chrisx1> if i set wlan0 as default it kind of disables eth0
[03:21] <papillon> miter: Do you have a Laptop?
[03:21] <miter> AlinuxOS: where?
[03:21] <Mantice> Can any one help me After I install ubuntu it starts configuring the packages, Then it locks up at 72% on liblircclient0 what should i do :(
[03:21] <AlinuxOS> http://www5.pc.ibm.com/it/products.nsf/Products?openagent&brand=Thinkpad&series=ThinkPad+Z+notebooks
[03:21] <miter> papillon, no not now, but i worked a lot with thinkpads
[03:22] <papillon> miter: Do you know about some good power management utility for Ubuntu? In windows my laptop works for 2 hours, but in Ubuntu it just works for 1 hour only :(
[03:22] <ranpha> I have a 100Mb network card but only 10mb is used ...that's even slower then my 54mbps wireless card...where in ubuntu can i check if you card is at full 100mb???
[03:22] <Chrisx1> hey i have a q, i have 2 network cars 1 wireless and eth0, how would i configure it so if i access a site it uses the wireless but stuff for servers uses eth0? if i set wlan0 as default it seems eth0 is disabled..
[03:22] <miter> papillon: unfortunately not, but try the forums
[03:23] <miter> i really recommend these Laptop-reviews: http://reviews.cnet.com/Notebooks/2001-3121_7-0.html
[03:23] <papillon> miter: ok, thx, I though we must wait for a better PM support
[03:24] <miter> and in the wiki, you can find things about laptop&ubuntu compability
[03:24] <JGJones> Greetings all
[03:24] <Mantice> Can any one help me After I install ubuntu it starts configuring the packages, Then it locks up at 72% on liblircclient0 what should i do :(
[03:24] <Chrisx1> Can some1 please answer my question?:S
[03:24] <Chrisx1> hey i have a q, i have 2 network cars 1 wireless and eth0, how would i configure it so if i access a site it uses the wireless but stuff for servers uses eth0? if i set wlan0 as default it seems eth0 is disabled..
[03:24] <Mantice> could some one tell me to restart my computer or somthing
[03:24] <Chrisx1> Mantice sudo reboot
[03:25] <AlinuxOS> miter, and what about using GNOME on Mac OSX?
[03:25] <njan> Chrisx1, what you're looking for is the routing table.
[03:25] <Mantice> Its not in the command line though
[03:25] <suleman> pls help how do i start the text installer on dapper drake thanks
[03:25] <Mantice> Its in some text based gui
[03:25] <Mantice> saying configuring packages
[03:25] <Chrisx1> njan could you help me with that?
[03:25] <njan> Chrisx1, no, I don't have the time to teach you how routing works :)
[03:25] <jonah> hi can anyone tell me what this error means: http://pastebin.com/739205
[03:26] <njan> Chrisx1, you need to look at the subnets your servers are in and figure out how to add a route for that subnet or for those specific hosts which goes via that particular interface