[00:04] <Matisse> hi
[00:05] <Matisse> my update process stopped after it ran about 30 mins with downloading. Now I tried to restart via shell, and it says:
[00:06] <Matisse> "requires x, but y is installed"
[00:06] <Matisse> now what?
[00:10] <dschulz> hi all
[00:11] <dschulz> anyone having problems with keyboard layouts?
[00:12] <dschulz> i configured my keyboard layout to US intl but it doesn't works after restarting KDE
[00:13] <dschulz> weird thing is that if I copy the line 'setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us -variant intl'  and execute it in konsole, the layout is applied correctly
[00:15] <dschulz> i need the  intl variant because i write mostly in spanish, althought my keyboard has english layout
[00:15] <handjob> This chan is useless.
[00:16] <dschulz> i think ill file a bug report
[00:17] <jack_> hi
[00:17] <Matisse> That comment was useless. :)
[00:18] <jack_> who here likes windows better than linux
[00:19] <dschulz> me not
[00:19] <jack_> niether do i im a linux man :)
[00:23] <Matisse> you sure?
[00:36] <dschulz> ok, there's already a bug report on the issue i described
[00:37] <dschulz> dated 2007-11-13   :S
[00:39] <dschulz> "us intl keymap not working in kde", bug  #162407
[00:41] <STAIR> guyz how to disable stack protection ?
[00:43] <STAIR> ?
[00:43] <STAIR> :S
[00:45] <crissi_> is there a way to get a tycoon game on my kubuntu.. i have wine.. but its not doing anything.
[01:00] <artem> вы
[01:01] <squircle> Hey everybody; i'm having a problem running KTorrent on GNOME (#ubuntu said to go here). Whenever I restart my computer
[01:02] <squircle> * the columns reset themselves to the default width and size; any solutions?
[01:07] <artem> hey people
[01:07] <artem> can anybody give me adress of other irc servers
[01:07] <artem> ?
[01:08] <squircle> what irc servers?
[01:08] <artem> i mean not special for linux
[01:09] <squircle> freenode isn't special for linux
[01:09] <squircle> but if you're looking for others, there's dalnet, gamesurge, efnet...
[01:09] <artem> how I can to add server to client
[01:10] <artem> If I want I need adress
[01:10] <artem> where I can get it
[01:10] <squircle> try google
[01:15] <artem> squircle U here
[01:15] <artem> ?
[01:15] <squircle> yes.
[01:16] <artem> can I use icons in top right window
[01:16] <artem> with fast key
[01:17] <squircle> i'm not sure what you're talking about; i use GNOME
[01:17] <artem> yes I am too
[01:17] <artem> where calendar is
[01:27] <anthony> hi
[01:36] <bernardlychan> hey if anyone want super cheap hosting/domain, then just pm me.
[01:53] <Ev0luti0n_> Hello folks!
[01:53] <Ev0luti0n_> Anyone with a nvidia gfx card and with problems with the desktop effects?
[01:53] <Ev0luti0n_> i've found an interesting thing, but i don't know if it happens only with me
[02:07] <linuxguy> hi can someone please help me with getting a 1280x1024 res on my monitor Im using an ati card
[02:21] <linuxguy> hello anyone here?
[02:23] <Guest66291> hi
[02:23] <Guest66291> dddddddddddd
[02:30] <Oggg> hhhh
[02:30] <Oggg> hey
[02:35] <linuxguy> --iscurrentdistro
[02:35] <linuxguy> --iscurrentdistro
[02:36] <linuxguy> --iscurrentdistro
[02:36] <linuxguy> hi can someone pleasee help me geta 1280x1024 resolution im using an ati card thanks
[02:38] <ner0x> How can I make firefox's flash play through my headphones, everything else does.
[02:44] <Ev0luti0n_> nerox: it should play!
[03:07] <jetsaredim> is there a way to start the desktop pereferences widget from the cli?  Need to change the resolution and can't get to the menu
[03:09] <donnybrasco> !pastebin
[03:10] <keres> hello, all the text in the windows on kubuntu is extremely huge
[03:10] <keres> how can i make it smaller?
[03:10] <keres> i am running at 1280x1024 resolution
[03:10] <keres> which is my native
[03:13] <avihayb> keres: you can change the screen DPI or the default font size. changeing the default font size might not effect every program
[03:13] <donnybrasco> Hi, how do I add software sources from terminal or re-install apt?
[03:14] <donnybrasco> from term
[03:14] <linuxguy> is anyone here?
[03:14] <keres> avihayb, how can i change the dpi?
[03:14] <linuxguy> donnybrasco: you can use either of those for easier install of software use synaptic
[03:14] <avihayb> keres: it's somewhere in system settings
[03:14] <jetsaredim> donnybrasco: edit /etc/apt/sources/list
[03:15] <avihayb> it's /etc/apt/sources.list as far as I recall
[03:15] <linuxguy> keres: try this sytem/settings display u can change it from there
[03:15] <jetsaredim> avihayb: right
[03:16] <donnybrasco> I can't open adept because I get the following error ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/280048/
[03:16] <donnybrasco> I don't see synaptic anywhere
[03:16] <linuxguy> donnybrasco: if you haveent got synaptic install it like this apt-get install synaptic
[03:16] <avihayb> keres: found it, it's in system settings->apperence->fonts
[03:16] <jetsaredim> donnybrasco: what does apt-get update tell you?
[03:16] <avihayb> look for the force DPI dialog box
[03:18] <donnybrasco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/280052/
[03:20] <jetsaredim> donnybrasco: paste your source.list
[03:22] <keres> thanks guys :)
[03:22] <keres> looks great now
[03:25] <jetsaredim> donnybrasco: looks like you have an issue with your sources.list file
[03:26] <chuyzoz> can somebody point me in the right direction?
[03:26] <jetsaredim> exit stage left?
[03:27] <chuyzoz> i'm looking for the best way to play windows games
[03:27]  * avihayb points randomly
[03:27] <chuyzoz> using kubuntu 9.04
[03:27] <chuyzoz> is wine a good option ?
[03:27] <jetsaredim> crossover game?
[03:27] <chuyzoz> or are there any other  programs that i'm overlooking ?
[03:27] <avihayb> it depends on your budget. wine is free
[03:28] <chuyzoz> i have no budget  lol
[03:29] <avihayb> well, crossover and cadedra or however it's called are improved non-free versions of wine
[03:30] <chuyzoz> i see
[03:30] <chuyzoz> and how about .. playonlinux  ?
[03:30] <chuyzoz> its based on wine correct ?
[03:31] <avihayb> and beside wine, you might want to use some vitalization software like dosbox for old dos games and vmware/openbox/kvm for windows games
[03:31] <avihayb> I'll have to check, sec
[03:33] <avihayb> from the main page: "PlayOnLinux is based on Wine, and so profits from all its possibilities yet it keeps the user away from its comp..."
[03:35] <avihayb> I can't tell if it's a standalone version of wine or if it uses the exsisting wine
[03:37] <chuyzoz> just reading now ..... cedega seems to be a good choice
[03:37] <chuyzoz> for a small cost
[03:37] <foi> I tried to install firefox 3.5 and instead it installed somethig called "Preview Browser Shiretoko" ..how can I get the real Firefox 3.5 installed in Kubuntu?
[03:38] <joaquinz> hi guys! i've a lot of trouble with kubuntu and wireless
[03:39] <joaquinz> i'm using wicd and it says to me something about the wireless access point when i try to connect
[03:39] <joaquinz> does anybody know what could be the problem??
[03:39] <foi> joaquinz: if someone knows ..they will answer you the first time
[03:40] <joaquinz> foi: sorry i didnt understand
[03:40] <foi> joaquinz: sorry ..I thought you were making a reapeat question ..I retract my statement
[03:40] <avihayb> joaquinz: you need to be more specific about the "says to me something about the wireless access point"
[03:41] <joaquinz> avihayb : i use spanish version, translated it would "Could not contact the wireless access point"
[03:42] <joaquinz> foi: no trobule man!
[03:43] <joaquinz> avihayb: i forgot to add that i had to use a static ip address  because it took a ridicolous amount of time to get it using dhcpd
[03:43] <joaquinz> avihayb: my wlan is ralink rt61
[03:45] <avihayb> well, the only thing I can suggest is checking the signal strength, but I guess you already did that
[03:46] <joaquinz> avihayb: the signal is fine...
[03:46] <joaquinz> im getting crazy!
[03:48] <varsendaggr> hey all
[03:48] <varsendaggr> i can't get my plasmoids to just live on the widget layer
[04:40] <marco> what does plasma-desktop plasma -graphicssystem raster makes?
[04:45] <kuttans> where to ask openoffice org related issues
[04:46] <kuttans> openoffice issues anyone pls
[04:46] <kuttans> or else whats the irc room for openoffice issues
[04:46] <marco> what does plasma-desktop plasma -graphicssystem raster makes?
[05:00] <kuttans> openoffice.org 3.1.1 ooBase is not enabled.  no ooBase in /usr/bin folder. how to install it or use it???
[05:00] <kuttans> karmic koala is the OS
[05:21] <marco> why raster mode in QT is not enabled by defalt?
[06:03] <Shaan7>  I'm trying to customise a LiveCD and have added many packages. Now, I want to change the default app for mp3 files from audacity to amarok. How to do so using terminal or config files?
[06:10] <tomdavidson> Hello, I would like to export email from Kontact as individual pdfs or tiffs - images not structured text. I can printed individual emails to kde's pdf printer, but i need to do an entire directory (many emails). Someone turned me to a2ps, but im having troubles sueing it and am looking for other ideas.
[06:51] <sim_> gmana cra gabungnya
[08:06] <domenik1> hallo
[08:06] <domenik1> hallo
[08:09] <GeekThunder> Hello, OpenOffice changes case of first letter of a new sentences to capital letter, but not for a new line. Any solution?
[08:11] <domenik1> hello germany here
[08:32] <voicu> hi, is anyone here using dosbox on a laptop?
[08:32] <voicu> i mean, i'm not sure it's laptop related but most keymaps are fucked
[08:33] <voicu> and ctrl+f1 which should bring up the keymapper doesn't work
[08:34] <voicu> nvm
[09:03] <noaXess1> hi all
[09:04] <noaXess1> if i run my kpackagekit / software update / refresh, i get the list of needed updates and the python process goest to 40% about 1 or two minute.. after that the update notifier icon will shown in tray... any idea why?
[09:05] <esperegu> how to share a folder for windows?
[09:05] <noaXess1> esperegu: whith samba
[09:05] <esperegu> noaXess: there is no gui?
[09:07] <noaXess1> esperegu: there are gui's but i use allways command line and configure the samba config file directly...
[09:07] <esperegu> noaXess1: you happen to know which gui is recommended for kubuntu?
[09:08] <noaXess1> esperegu: no.. don't know.. cause i config allways directly the files..
[09:17] <noaXess> does cron-apt is needed for automatically system update checks?
[09:20] <James147> noaXess: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/162
[09:22] <noaXess> James147: my problem is, that the daily automatic configured update check in "kpackagekit / settings / edit software sources / updates" doesn't work, i need always run it manually over kpackagekit or sudo at-get update... so i'm interessted if cron-apt is needed for this process.. cause it isn't installed on my system..
[09:24] <James147> noaXess: It isent installed onmy system either but I think I had the auto updates working
[09:24] <noaXess> James147: ok.. so, what can be the problem on my system?.. the auto update check is enabled, bt it won't work..
[09:27] <noaXess> in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic there is APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; so i should work.. but something isn't wrong
[09:27] <noaXess> correct: is wrong, so auto update check won't work
[09:27] <James147> noaXess: update-package-lists sounds like running apt-get update
[09:28] <noaXess> James147: yes.. but it won't..
[09:28] <noaXess> run it daily.. i need to do that manually..
[09:28] <James147> noaXess: updates or upgrades wont work?
[09:28] <voicu> could kde interfere with keymappings when running dosbox?
[09:28] <voicu> i'm on a laptop
[09:29] <noaXess> James147: update... if i do a check manually (sudo apt-get update) then i see the update-notifier icon in tray and canclick it, and upgrade..
[09:29] <noaXess> jus update doesn't work..
[09:29] <noaXess> upgrade after update check works fine over gui
[09:31] <James147> noaXess: Sorry, dont know why it isent working
[09:33] <noaXess> James147: can you run please following in konsole? ps ax | grep update
[09:33] <James147> noaXess: You might need to wait 24 hours after you last updated for it to check...
[09:33] <noaXess> is there a line like: python /usr/bin/update-notifier-kde
[09:34] <James147> 3491 ?        SN     0:40 python /usr/bin/update-notifier-kde
[09:34] <noaXess> James147: i have this problem since i upgraded to 9.04.. so.. i wait some days :)
[09:34] <noaXess> so.. update-notifier-kde is also running..
[09:34] <James147> noaXess: Then I dont know sorry, Think i did a fresh install, I find less problems that way :)
[09:34] <noaXess> :)
[09:36] <James147> although whats intresting is my karmic laptop dident show the icon at all then i ran aptitude update just now even though there are updates :S
[09:36] <voicu> is there a simple program that shows the map codes for the keys?
[09:37] <Carnage\> voicu: Give xev a try
[09:37] <noaXess> James147: think can be the same problem thenmine.. after running sudo apt-get update.. then the update icon comes up
[09:37] <noaXess> where is the configuration file for update-notifier-kde?
[09:37] <noaXess> !info update-notifier-kde
[09:38] <noaXess> !search update-notifier-kde
[09:38] <voicu> carnage\: well that's neat but it doesn't use the same codes as dosbox
[09:38] <Carnage\> Oh, didn't know that, I thought you meant the Xorg keycodes :)
[09:39] <voicu> carnage\: is dosbox working at a lower level? for example, Up is 111 for xev and 316 for dosbox
[09:39] <Carnage\> I have no idea, don't know anything about dosbox
[09:40] <voicu> k then
[09:40] <voicu> ty anyway
[09:40] <Carnage\> You're welcome.
[09:42] <noaXess> James147: can you please run this :) ls -l /etc/cron.daily/apt
[09:43] <noaXess> James147: i think there is a permission problem on my system
[09:43] <noaXess> i have this: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8686 2009-04-17 06:27 /etc/cron.daily/apt
[09:45] <noaXess> can someone please run this command in konsole? ls -l /etc/cron.daily/apt
[09:45] <noaXess> and post the output here?
[09:45] <jussi01> noaXess: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8686 2009-04-17 07:27 /etc/cron.daily/apt
[09:46] <noaXess> jussi01: ha.. thanks.. so i see my problem... no x mod..
[09:46] <jussi01> :)
[09:46] <noaXess> so update-notifier-kde can't run /etc/cron.daily/apt each day..
[09:46] <noaXess> jussi01: should i post that as bug cause i upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04?
[09:47] <jussi01> noaXess: sure. why not?
[09:47] <jussi01> unless you touched the file prior to this...
[09:48] <noaXess> jussi01: no, i never touch it.. i found a german description of the same problem from upgrading 8.04 to 8.10
[09:48] <jussi01> noaXess: no harm in filing a bug.
[09:48] <noaXess> jussi01: launchpad right?
[09:49] <jussi01> yup
[09:53] <noaXess> jussi01: is there a bug reportin launchpad site for kubuntu? or just for ubuntu?
[09:54] <jussi01> !bug
[09:57] <noaXess> jussi01: ok :) thanks
[10:05] <DarkriftX> does anyone here know how to make xchat stop its beeping? The sounds are not part of xchat (same version I had on kubuntu 8.10 that was silent and xchats sounds are disabled). They seem to be some sort of system sounds when I change tabs or open dialog boxes but I have disabled the system sounds in most other apps by removing all notification sounds
[10:07] <Mamarok> DarkriftX: remove the system beep in systemsettings
[10:08] <Mamarok> systemsettings -> System Notifications -> no audio output
[10:08] <Mamarok> in the player settings
[10:09] <DarkriftX> Mamarok: i did :(
[10:09] <DarkriftX> thats how i finally got rid of the beeping when I cahnged tabs in firefox and chrome
[10:10] <Mamarok> then it's in the application
[10:10] <DarkriftX> but it still happens in xcaht. sounds kinda like an ubuntu drum beat
[10:10] <DarkriftX> its not. i removed all of the xchat sound files (deleted)
[10:10] <DarkriftX> not only that but i played them and none are this sound
[10:10] <DarkriftX> i also cahnged the xchat sound folder to a non existing folder
[10:11] <Mamarok> then I don' know, use Quassel or Konversation rather than Xchat then
[10:11] <DarkriftX> hrmmmm, chrome is still doing it too
[10:12] <DarkriftX> i thought it stopped in chrome but apparently not
[10:25] <DarkriftX> wow... talk about a bug
[10:25] <DarkriftX> i had to open gnome-sound-preferences to make the sound in xchat go away
[10:25] <DarkriftX> unfortunately its still in chrome
[10:26] <DarkriftX> and it screwed up all my fonts in xchat
[10:26] <DarkriftX> looks like upgrading to 9.04 wasnt a good idea
[10:27] <James147> DarkriftX: You could try a live cd, see if it works any better in that, It could just be because of an upgrade
[10:28] <DarkriftX> when i run "gnome-sound-preferences" what would that start taht would cause fonts to change in xchat?
[10:41] <gkourtev> Is there a way of syncing Nokia phone with Kontact?
[10:46] <gkourtev> This is on 9.04, KDE 4.3.1
[10:49] <jussi01> gkourtev: this thread may be useful to you: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13025
[10:51] <artem> hey peopele
[10:51] <artem> I have a little problem
[10:52] <artem> !
[10:53] <artem> can anybody help?
[10:54] <Newbee> artem: tell us what your problem is
[10:54] <artem> ok
[10:54] <artem> I have internet connection by blurtooth
[10:54] <gkourtev> jussi: I tried the last week but cannot install kitchensync for KDE 3.5 on KDE 4.3.1...
[10:54] <artem> but firefox and all messangers can\t use it
[10:55] <artem> but kouqueroro and IRC can
[10:55] <artem> why?
[10:55] <artem> it is so
[10:56] <artem> bluetooth from mobile phone
[10:58] <Newbee> artem: I am sorry I cannot help. I don't have any experience with either Bluetooth or a scenario like yours. But maybe some of the more experienced users out there can help
[10:59] <artem> ok and also whare i can get list of irc chats
[10:59] <artem> ?
[10:59] <jussi01> gkourtev: Im  not sure if this is of use, but check out gnokii: http://www.gnokii.org/
[10:59] <jussi01> artem: which client are you using?
[11:00] <jussi01> !channels
[11:00] <artem> Konversation
[11:00] <eoakley> .
[11:00] <artem> itis about Linux?
[11:00] <Newbee> !channels
[11:01] <kambal> hi everyone!
[11:01] <kambal> im new in kubuntu!
[11:01] <jussi01> gkourtev: although it looks rather old and outdated
[11:01] <Newbee> hello kambal
[11:01] <Mamarok> jussi01: isn't there kphone?
[11:01] <jussi01> !info kphone
[11:01]  * Mamarok checks
[11:02] <artem> can I find free chat rooms not special  for linux?
[11:02] <jussi01> Mamarok: not real suitable... :)
[11:02] <jussi01> artem: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[11:02] <kambal> can someone help me?
[11:02] <artem> thanks
[11:02] <jussi01> kambal: just ask!
[11:02] <jussi01> !portables
[11:03] <jussi01> gkourtev: maybe something there ^^
[11:03] <kambal> my ps2 optical mouse is acting weird
[11:04] <jussi01> !elaborate | kambal
[11:06] <kambal> how can i make my ps2 optical mouse work properly? whenever i move it, it move quickly in random directions and just clicking everywhere by itself
[11:07] <kambal> how can i make my ps2 optical mouse work properly? whenever i move it, it move quickly in random directions and just clicking everywhere by itself
[11:07] <jussi01> !repaet | kambal
[11:07] <jussi01> !repeat | kambal
[11:08] <jussi01> kambal: what model is the mouse, have you ensured the optical par is clean, what else have you done?
[11:09] <DarkriftX> anyone know why my firefox 3.5 (just installed) menus dont match the system color scheme? the text is white and the menus themselves are very ligth grey
[11:11] <kambal> the model is ELIM, ive already cleaned the plug the one you insert in the port
[11:11] <Newbee> DarkriftX: try to go to about:config and set gfx.color_management.mode to 0. I think that fixed the issue for me (I hope I remember it right ;-) )
[11:11] <DarkriftX> nice
[11:11] <DarkriftX> ill try now
[11:11] <jussi01> kambal: try cleaning the optical lens on the bottom of the mouse
[11:12] <Newbee> DarkriftX: I guess that you'll have to restart your firefox for making use of that
[11:13] <DarkriftX> i did, and no go
[11:13] <DarkriftX> i am trying 1 now
[11:14] <kambal> its still the same
[11:14] <kambal> it did not work
[11:18] <Elive_user90_fr> hi, i've got a little problem. I upgrade kde from 3.5 to 4, and since i got no more graphical session available. I can see "Starting K Display Manager: KDE" but i'm still in the tty1. Then i try kdm restart and nothing happened. When i type startx i've got this message : http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-38529
[11:18] <kambal> can someone help me
[11:18] <kambal> and whenever i scroll the whell it swtich windows
[11:19] <kambal> my ps2 track ball mouse dont work whenever i plug it in
[11:25] <CorsoDuke> does anyone knows a nice place for chiks on IRC?
[11:31] <DarkriftX> damnit, i wish upgrading my OS werent such a pain in the ass
[11:32] <DarkriftX> anyone here know what firefox does differently with its menu rendering than any other program on my computer?
[11:36] <chirag> need help with command in upgrading to kubuntu 9.04 using CD
[11:37] <chirag> one available on kubuntu site is not working for me somehow
[11:37] <chirag> anyone in here to help me out plssssssssssssssssss
[11:38] <chirag> hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:38] <chirag> any one here
[11:52] <Nexus6> Hi! >) I have a random freeze when i remove file > at 3 Giga. there is patch for that ??? And i have also an other random freeze... when i do nothing special except move my mouse !? (problem with ATI M9600 i think...)
[11:56] <Nexus6> There is patch for that ??? Or i will past under gnome... Advice me please!
[12:16] <artem> people
[12:16] <slow-motion> hi
[12:16] <artem> I have a quation
[12:17] <artem> I use my laptop for reading
[12:17] <artem> I keep it on my knees
[12:17] <artem> Is it safe for me?
[12:48] <javier__> hi to everyone
[12:50] <javier__> can someone help me? Dont know what happens with my kubuntu 9.04, since this morning it goes very slow, is not fluent and it takes time every small action (like opening minimized windows...). Only things I did yesterday night were instaling skype 4 in wine, that didnt work, and I already uninstalled wine
[13:00] <javier__> hello
[13:00] <javier__> I have a problem, kubuntu goes extremelly slow
[13:00] <javier__> any idea?
[13:00] <Mamarok> javier__: what does top tell you?
[13:01] <Mamarok> javier__: also, which KDE version do you use?
[13:01] <javier__> sorry, I think I didnt get any other message, don't know what you mean
[13:02] <Mamarok> javier__: top is a command line tool that shows you where the ressources are used
[13:02] <javier__> I have last update of KDE4.3.1
[13:02] <javier__> ah, sorry, didnt understand top :)
[13:04] <javier__> in top... most of CPU is used in "mount.nfts", "mono", "firefox",...
[13:04] <javier__> specially "mono" and "mount.nfts"
[13:06] <javier__> it's strange, when I restart computer, at the begging it gets warmer than normally, without running any special application (nvidia graphic specially warm), but goes well. After some minutes (15, 20), it goes down temperature but it works very slow
[13:06] <Mamarok> javier__: why do you run mono on KDE?
[13:06] <javier__> don't actually know what's mono
[13:06] <Mamarok> there is no use for that
[13:06] <Mamarok> well, then you probably shouldn't have it installed in the first place
[13:07] <Mamarok> javier__: do you use an external harddisk with ntfs or a samba share?
[13:08] <javier__> no, i don't
[13:08] <Mamarok> well, then you don't need mount.ntfs
[13:08] <Mamarok> do you use Gnome applications?
[13:08] <javier__> but I have windows in a different partition, that I mount since the beggining
[13:08] <Mamarok> well, that should not r8un on top and use CPU
[13:08] <Mamarok> run*
[13:09] <javier__> in /media/windows
[13:09] <javier__> yes, I think so, should run on top
[13:09] <javier__> mmm
[13:09] <Mamarok> but not using too muhc CPU
[13:09] <Mamarok> much*
[13:09] <javier__> and I have gnome applications that I instaled accidentally
[13:09] <javier__> synaptics and compiz
[13:09] <Mamarok> well, if you don't use those, remove them, and remove mono
[13:10] <javier__> I thied to uninstall compiz, but it didnt remove everything, I still see contorl panel of compiz
[13:10] <Mamarok> you don't need compiz, there is Kwin, and synaptic doesn't cause problems normally
[13:10] <javier__> mmm
[13:10] <javier__> could you help me removing those applications?
[13:10] <Mamarok> javier__: well, that is probably just a configuration file, did you remove it with purge?
[13:10] <javier__> yes, I did
[13:11] <Mamarok> then it should not show there anymore, but you can also check if you have a .compiz/ folder in your home
[13:11] <Mamarok> do you use Tomboy?
[13:13] <javier__> no, i dont think so
[13:13] <javier__> i dont have /.config
[13:13] <Mamarok> not config, .compiz/
[13:14] <javier__> sorry
[13:14] <javier__> I meant compiz
[13:14] <Mamarok> ok, I guess you use synaptic as package manager?
[13:14] <javier__> no, not at all
[13:14] <javier__> it's accidentally there
[13:14] <javier__> I would like to remove it
[13:15] <javier__> i think all that came with gimp
[13:15] <Mamarok> well, then sudo apt-get purge synaptic
[13:15] <javier__> or maybe not, maybe another program
[13:15] <javier__> ok
[13:15] <Mamarok> no, Gimp doesn't drag that in
[13:15] <javier__> mount.nfts is running as root
[13:15] <Mamarok> of course, since only root can mount devices
[13:15] <Mamarok> especially system devices like hard disks
[13:16] <Mamarok> how much CPU does mount.ntfs use?
[13:16] <Mamarok> and do you have to access the /media/windows folder very often?
[13:17] <javier__> no,not very often, very rarelly
[13:17] <javier__> it uses from 5 to 10% CPU
[13:17] <Mamarok> well, then don't mount it on start, you can still mount it when you need it
[13:17] <javier__> and 421.9 M memory
[13:17] <Mamarok> memory is not that much a problem, but 5-10% CPU just for munting a drive you don't use is too much
[13:18] <javier__> i think so, I dont know why my friend, who helped me with kubuntu instalation, suggested that.But he knows more or less what he does, and he said i shouldnt notice it, it should take so many resourses
[13:18] <javier__> but
[13:19] <javier__> is it posible to change that I'm mounting it without formating?
[13:19] <javier__> and mono was 5 - 10
[13:19] <Mamarok> yes, you can just remove it from the /etc/fstab file
[13:19] <javier__> mount.nfts is higer, 11-12%
[13:20] <Mamarok> well, I don't know much about mono, but there is no reason to use it in KDE, unless you use Tomboy or another Gnome application that needs it
[13:21] <Mamarok> you can run ps -Hef in a konsole to check what application depends on mono
[13:21] <javier__> ah!
[13:21] <javier__> i think I know. It's because of awn
[13:21] <javier__> mmm
[13:22] <javier__> awn manager
[13:22] <javier__> I have to remove that also (sudo apt-get purge awn I guess?)
[13:22]  * Mamarok checks what that is
[13:22] <Mamarok> !info awn
[13:23] <Mamarok> !info awn-manager
[13:23] <Mamarok> well, I guess you don't use that
[13:23] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get purge awn-manager
[13:24] <javier__> i wanted at the begging, but finally i manage very well with plasma :)
[13:24] <Mamarok> well, of curse, I really don't see why you would need that on KDE anyway
[13:25] <Mamarok> course*
[13:25] <javier__> mhm
[13:25] <javier__> begginers...
[13:25] <Mamarok> don't worry, we all were at some point
[13:26] <javier__> hehe. But I guess mono will be still there
[13:26] <Mamarok> well, we can remove that later, if it's not removed with it
[13:27]  * Mamarok checks dependencies of mono
[13:29] <javier__> ok
[13:29] <javier__> no more awn
[13:30] <Mamarok> let's try removing mono now, I guess it needs to be called mono*
[13:30] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get purge mono-common <- try that one
[13:32] <Mamarok> javier__: else, you can search for the installed mono parts with 'aptitude search mono' and remove individually all the lines marked with i
[13:33] <Mamarok> there are so many mono-related packages, it might take some time
[13:33] <javier__> i'm already with the previous thing
[13:33] <javier__> 21 MB
[13:33] <Mamarok> not bad :)
[13:34] <javier__> it's done
[13:36] <Mamarok> you will need to restart KDE I guess, to make it run smoother now
[13:36] <javier__> ok
[13:36] <javier__> i will try that
[13:36] <javier__> just
[13:37] <javier__> shold I do something before with mount-nfts?
[13:37] <javier__> it's still (with mono) on top of ksysguard
[13:37] <javier__> although their use of CPU doesnt goes over 4 % now
[13:37] <Mamarok> of course, the services remain started, you can just kill them
[13:38] <javier__> well, I will restart
[13:38] <javier__> thanks! I'll see how is it and come back
[13:46] <javier__> I'm back
[13:46] <Mamarok> how is it?
[13:47] <javier__> it seems it's better!
[13:47] <Mamarok> nice :)
[13:47] <javier__> there is no mono sign :)
[13:47] <javier__> and mount-nfts doesnt use CPU at all
[13:47] <Mamarok> for the record, you don't need to restart the computer, just logout of KDE and log in again
[13:47] <javier__> how would I do that?
[13:47] <Mamarok> as it will close down all things GUI, that usually is enough
[13:48] <Mamarok> in the menu, go to leave and choose logout
[13:48] <javier__> in menu?
[13:48] <javier__> ah, ok
[13:48] <javier__> I remember about that
[13:48] <Mamarok> well, how did you restart?
[13:48] <javier__> now, I restarted everything, but i know what you mean, I've used it to restart Xorg in the same place, right?
[13:49] <Mamarok> well, you should go through the menu or the widget, just don't use Ctrl+Alt+Del or such as it is an ugly way to do it
[13:49] <javier__> ok
[13:49] <javier__> just, do you know what?
[13:50] <Mamarok> no?
[13:50] <javier__> I still have some "garbage" here
[13:50] <Mamarok> define "garbage"
[13:50] <javier__> ah, sorry, my english: trush?
[13:50] <javier__> trash?
[13:50] <javier__> mm
[13:50] <javier__> on K-menu
[13:50] <Mamarok> ah, you mean you have stuff in the trash bin
[13:50] <javier__> no no
[13:51] <javier__> on K-menu
[13:51] <javier__> I still find compiz-options, synaptics
[13:51] <javier__> and emerald, that was also there and we didnt remove
[13:51] <javier__> sudo apt-get purge emerald?
[13:51] <Mamarok> well, synaptics is not synaptic, synaptics is used for touchpads
[13:51] <Mamarok> and it is not Gnome specific AFAIK
[13:52] <Mamarok> yes, just purge what you don't want anymore
[13:52] <javier__> well, but I also have add/remove package from gnome
[13:53] <Mamarok> javier__: yes, if you don't use it, remove that,  but don't put the s at the end :)
[13:53] <Mamarok> else you remove something different
[13:54] <javier__> how do I remove that last one?  (add/remove, do you know what I mean?)
[13:54] <Mamarok> yes: sudo apt-get purge synaptic
[13:54] <Mamarok> just don't put an s at the end of that word
[13:54] <javier__> i think i already did synapticS :S
[13:55] <javier__> in the past :)
[13:55] <javier__> hope doesnt happen anything
[13:56] <javier__> and one more question, with Konsole, I shouldnt want "Akonadi console", should I?
[13:56] <Mamarok> no, I don't think so, the tool is named gsynaptics anyway
[13:56] <Mamarok> javier__: how that, Akonadi console?
[13:57] <Elive_user90_fr> is kubuntu 9.04 runs with kde 3.5 or kde 4 ?
[13:57] <javier__> no idea
[13:57] <javier__> do you know what is it?
[13:57] <Mamarok> Elive_user90_fr: Kubuntu 9.04 has KDE 4.2.2 by default
[13:57] <Elive_user90_fr> Mamarok > Thanks
[13:57] <Mamarok> javier__: Akonadi is the server you need for kdepim (Kontact, kadressbook, etc.)
[13:58] <javier__> mmm, I afraid I dont know well what does it means...
[13:58] <javier__> is it a diferent console?
[13:58] <Mamarok> javier__: it is a database server that handles the adresses, the mails, etc.
[13:58] <javier__> I think it wasnt there after instaling Kubuntu
[13:58] <Mamarok> and Akonadi console is needed to access the database
[13:58] <javier__> ah... so it's ok?
[13:58] <Mamarok> just don't touch it :)
[13:59] <javier__> great :)
[13:59] <javier__> ideas about compiz options administrator?
[13:59] <javier__> how to remove it?
[13:59] <Mamarok> second, let me check
[14:00] <Mamarok> javier__: if you type 'aptitude search compiz', it tells you what packages there are and those with an i in front are install
[14:01] <Mamarok> just type apt-get purge <packagename> then for those you want to remove
[14:01] <Mamarok> installed* even
[14:01] <JJman6__> how can start my taskbar i  accidently killed it
[14:02] <devilsadvocate> javier__, ccsm, iirc
[14:02] <Mamarok> JJman6__: you mean the panel?
[14:03] <javier__> devilsadvocal, what do you mean?
[14:03] <JJman6__> errr perhaps
[14:03] <Mamarok> devilsadvocate: careful, you talke to the wrong person I think :)
[14:03] <JJman6__> the main task bar, that has your menu & such
[14:03] <javier__> ok :)
[14:03] <Mamarok> JJman6__: on the desktop, right click and choose the option "Add panel"
[14:04] <devilsadvocate> javier__, ah, sorry
[14:04] <JJman6__> i have no desktop its all black.  i killled the whole thing i guess
[14:04] <JJman6__> so i need to restart plasma i guess
[14:04] <Mamarok> JJman6__: how did you kill plasma "accidentally"?
[14:04] <JJman6__> xkill ;-)  i was trying to close a program
[14:05] <javier__> ok Mamarok, compiz is over for me :)
[14:05] <Mamarok> well, xkill is something you should only use if something doesn't respond, and it's better to kill those from the command line
[14:05] <JJman6__> yea well it wasn't responding
[14:06] <Mamarok> JJman6__: simply clikcing twice on the close button usually will pop up a window, at least for the KDE applications
[14:06] <Mamarok> or right click on the window bar and choose close
[14:06] <JJman6__> well it wouldn't even OPEN the window so i couldn't do that
[14:06] <Mamarok> no need for xkill
[14:06] <javier__> now it's so strange preferences part of my k-menu, only 5 things: two java,one about nvidia, q4 settings and OpenJDK java
[14:06] <JJman6__> it was stuck in the task bar
[14:07] <Mamarok> javier__: sorry, I don't understand, you talk about a menu entry?
[14:07] <javier__> but I think... that I dont miss anything
[14:07] <JJman6__> thus how i accidentlly killed plasma apparently.  Hence the problem how can i now get it back.
[14:08] <javier__> in K-menu, in preferences, I dont have almost anything compared with before (they dissapeared after purging everything from compiz)
[14:08] <Mamarok> JJman6__: Alt+F2 to open Krunner, then type 'plasma-desktop'
[14:08] <Mamarok> javewell, yes, since they are not isntalled anymore, but you have other menu entries
[14:08] <javier__> mhm, that's true
[14:08] <javier__> everything looks working very well now
[14:08] <javier__> thanks a lot mamarok!
[14:08] <Mamarok> nice :)
[14:09] <Mamarok> javier__: you are welcome :)
[14:09] <JJman6__> thats it.  thx mamarok
[14:09] <javier__> I would invite you a beer if you would be in Cadiz, Spain,, hehe
[14:09] <Mamarok> javier__: I will tell you when I plan coming to Cadiz, then :)
[14:09] <javier__> ok
[14:09] <javier__> se you
[14:09] <Mamarok> cu
[14:09] <javier__> and thanks once more
[14:30] <simontol> Hi, how do I configure the printer???
[14:32] <simontol> I mean I want to configure an usb printer, on ubuntu I only have to plug-in and switch-on the printer and it will be auto-configured
[14:32] <simontol> Am I missing some package in Kde?
[14:36] <darthanubis> simontol: have you took a look at systemsettings?
[14:36] <darthanubis> and clicked the "printer" button?
[14:37] <simontol> darthanubis : ye but in "new printer" I only have "new network printer" and "new printer class"
[14:37] <simontol> I expect to find "new local printer" here too
[14:37] <darthanubis> no
[14:37] <darthanubis> just click "new printer"
[14:38] <darthanubis> simontol: sorry, your right
[14:39] <darthanubis> there should just be a local printer
[14:39] <simontol> darthanubis : there was a printer auto configuration applet once upon a time ;-)
[14:40] <darthanubis> I just recently switched from ubuntu to kubuntu so I missed that
[14:41] <simontol> darthanubis: I switched from ubuntu recently too
[14:41] <simontol> ;-)
[14:41] <darthanubis> I miss some things
[14:42] <darthanubis> amarok does not appear to stream misuc across my smb network?
[14:42] <darthanubis> music
[14:42] <darthanubis> rythmnbox does it just fine
[14:42] <simontol> I think that 4.3.1 is not *yet* complete
[14:42] <darthanubis> and k3b is sweet, but the burnt cds don't play in my POS cd player in my car
[14:42] <darthanubis> I need a new player is all
[14:43] <darthanubis> but brasero burnt cds I can play
[14:43] <darthanubis> I know I can still install these apps, but I'm trying to use the KDE stuff
[14:44] <Mamarok> darthanubis: don't know what you did worng, but k3b works fine here, and I can use those CDs in the car
[14:44] <darthanubis> the disk play fine everywhere but my player in my car
[14:44] <Mamarok> darthanubis: do you run KDE 4.2.2 (the default one) or is it 4.3.1?
[14:44] <darthanubis> but I do believe it is just my car deck
[14:44] <darthanubis> 4.3.1
[14:44] <Mamarok> well, if those playe everywhere else I would blame the car deck
[14:44] <Mamarok> -e
[14:45] <darthanubis> no doubt
[14:45] <simontol> darthanubis : sometime I have to change CD brand 'cause they don't play in my car stereo
[14:46] <darthanubis> that is a possibility as well
[14:46] <simontol> I have to go now, thank you all, bye.
[14:47] <darthanubis> peace
[14:55] <_abbenormal> have a ? for anyone doing multimedia how to stop the screensaver when running a movie it will blank in 15 minutes
[15:08] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:18] <avihayb> _abbenormal: what program are you useing?
[15:34] <angelo> ##xen
[15:44] <donnybrasco> Hi, I need help ... I can't seem to install anything anymore - seems like a problem with apt
[15:44] <donnybrasco> !pastebin
[15:46] <donnybrasco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/280452/
[15:48] <donnybrasco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/280455/
[15:48] <donnybrasco> can I re-install apt?
[15:49] <Pici> donnybrasco: It looks like you have an error in your sources.list file on line 56.  Perhaps that line does not start with 'deb'
[15:49] <Pici> If you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file we can check it.
[15:49]  * genii sips
[15:51] <donnybrasco> pici: ok - one sec
[15:53] <donnybrasco> pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/280459/
[15:53] <kroson> !shortcut
[15:55] <di> hi
[15:55] <di> help, konsole, xterm and aterm crash whenever i run them
[15:55] <di> this is a fresh kubuntu install
[15:57] <Pici> donnybrasco: This new list will fix your issue, see the replacement on the last line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/280462/
[15:57] <kroson> does anybody know how to access system settings in kubuntu netbook edition?
[15:58] <chopard> hello
[15:59] <chopard> is anybod around?
[15:59] <Pici> !hi
[16:00] <chopard> I have a question about the panel window list
[16:00] <donnybrasco> pici: thanks - now I'm getting this error ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/280465/
[16:01] <chopard> I use four virtual desktops.  I remember from previous versions of KDE that the minimized windows appear only in the virtual desktop that it belongs to.
[16:01] <Pici> donnybrasco: you need to run apt-get update with sudo.
[16:02] <donnybrasco> of course!  I'm an idiot :)
[16:02] <chopard> But now, I have the windows icons on my panel even though those windows icons do not belong in the current desktop.
[16:04] <Pici> chopard: I personally don't use KDE, but I know in Gnome that the window list has an option to show all windows or those just on the current desktop, perhaps there is a similar option in K?
[16:04] <donnybrasco> pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/280468/
[16:04] <donnybrasco> pici: couple errors at the end
[16:07] <chopard> Pici: If I right-click on each window panel at the top, there is an option to show to "All Desktop" or a selected desktop.  It's already selected for a specific desktop, but when it's minimized as an icon on the panel, it's showing up in all desktops.
[16:07] <donnybrasco> pici: also, is this normal?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/280472/
[16:07] <Pici> donnybrasco: Try: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[16:08] <chopard> I think it's not a problem in Gnome. I'm wondering if  it's a bug in recent KDE, as I didn't see this before.
[16:08] <chopard> Pici: I'd like to do some research on this, but I'm not sure what key words to search for.
[16:08] <Skami_18> try chmod a+x
[16:09] <Pici> Skami_18: In regards to what?
[16:09] <donnybrasco> pici: thanks - adding the key seems to have fixed the apt problem
[16:09] <Pici> donnybrasco: Good to hear
[16:09] <Skami_18> that : <donnybrasco> pici: also, is this normal?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/280472/
[16:10] <Pici> Skami_18: Thats because he used sudo instead of kdesudo
[16:10] <Pici> !gksudo
[16:10] <Pici> !kdesudo
[16:10] <Pici> rather
[16:10] <Pici> er
[16:11] <donnybrasco> pici: thanks for the info and the help!
[16:13] <Pici> chopard: My only advice would be to wait here for someone who actually uses KDE to help you. Sorry  I coudlnt be of more help.
[16:14] <chopard> Pici: Thanks!
[16:17] <di> help, i did a fresh install of kubuntu, and konsole, aterm and xterm crash when i launch them
[16:18] <di> anyone?
[16:19] <genii> di: Are you still able to gain a console by ctrl-alt-f1 ? (and to return to X by alt-f7 )
[16:21] <di> genii: yes
[16:21] <di> genii: gnome terminal works though, after i installed that
[16:23] <genii> di: What does command:  ls -l ~/.bashrc                 report?
[16:29] <di> genii: guess what, it worked after i deleted ~/.bash*
[16:29] <genii> di: I suspect root owned them and not your proper user
[16:29] <di> genii: i preserved a /home from a gentoo install
[17:01] <donnybrasco> hey - anyone know how I can remove the bottom panel from kubuntu hh? The option is greyed out
[17:02] <donnybrasco> I moved all the applets into the top global menu panel
[17:02] <donnybrasco> and I want to install awn
[17:14] <Mamarok> donnybrasco: you don't need awn in KDE
[17:17] <donnybrasco> mamarok: what do you mean?  I want the dock.
[17:19] <manshoon_> how do you get rid of a package that is broken and wont apt-get -f remove?
[17:19] <Mamarok> donnybrasco: you don't need it in KDE, awn might make sense in Gnome, but not in KDE
[17:23] <varanus> is it possible to use kde 4.3.1 and have an update of python-plasma 4.2.4?
[17:25] <genii> varanus: Thats whats on my Jaunty box... 4.3.1 and python-plasma just upgraded on the last round to 4.2.4
[17:27] <manshoon_> ok. How do I manually remove a package that has broken apt?
[17:28] <Mamarok> manshoon_: try autoremove
[17:29] <varanus> ty very much genii, i just asked cause i didn't want to have any problems, it seemed a bit wierd to me
[17:29] <genii> varanus: np
[17:39] <manshoon> Mamarok: this was my error: http://pastebin.com/m715aa4a5
[17:39] <manshoon> a very nasty one
[17:40] <Mamarok> manshoon: is this Karmic?
[17:41] <manshoon> yeah, they helped me in #ubuntu+1. I had to create a fake grub menu to trick kubuntu-grub-splashimages and then remove it and then delete the fake gub menu
[17:41] <Mamarok> ok then, just ask there for problems related to Karmic, please
[17:41] <manshoon> I did
[17:42] <manshoon> I wasnt getting a response at first. waited about 20 min
[17:42] <manshoon> all fixed though
[17:42] <Mamarok> well, patience is always a good idea in IRC :)
[17:43] <manshoon> Its always a battle between patience and your question flying off the screen...
[17:44] <manshoon> you an amarok dev?
[17:45] <rmrfslash> How can I figure out the make model of my graphics card in kubuntu
[17:47] <manshoon> rmrfslash: I always just use lspci,  but Im sure there is a GUI for that these days, just never looked
[17:48] <manshoon> that will tell you the chipset.
[17:49] <rmrfslash> manshoon: thanks
[17:49] <untiled> hi all, can anybody help me in usb video capturing? i don't know how it work on kubuntu
[18:04] <Guest31688> hello guys... I've got a problem... I can't play dvd with vlc... have you got any idea?
[18:05] <Chrisinthedark> hello guys... I've got a problem... I can't play dvd with vlc... have you got any idea?
[18:05] <Mamarok> Chrisinthedark: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:05] <jesseandrade> eae
[18:05] <jesseandrade> fala ai
[18:05] <robin0800> lib missing?
[18:05] <Mamarok> jesseandrade: English, please
[18:05] <Chrisinthedark> Mamarok... I'll try thank you
[18:06] <jesseandrade> No, portuques
[18:34] <michaelc> Hello im haveing a problem. im trying to burn a cd and it wont work anone no any good programs thats burns cd propaly
[18:46] <cF`Zuz|Work> how do you guys know where i can find info on sharing a drive between windows and kubuntu (dual boot on same machine)
[18:46] <cF`Zuz|Work> for example should i have that drive formatted NTFS or FAT32?
[18:46] <_abbenormal> try mounting the windows partion
[18:47] <_abbenormal> if you want to write to it id do fat32 ntfs has some issue with writing
[18:48] <cF`Zuz|Work> thanks
[18:48] <cF`Zuz|Work> anything else I should know?
[18:49] <cF`Zuz|Work> im thinking of using gparted software to make partitions, im hoping it doesnt destroy what I have there now
[18:49] <_abbenormal> nope those are what i have done
[18:49] <nnooplo> #linuxac
[18:49] <_abbenormal> just make sure its what you want to do before you hit apply
[18:50] <nnooplo> hi all
[18:50] <_abbenormal> hello
[18:50] <nnooplo> how ar you
[18:50] <_abbenormal> doing ok so far
[18:50] <cF`Zuz|Work> have you ever used gparted?
[18:50] <nnooplo> good
[18:50] <_abbenormal> yes
[19:00] <cF`Zuz|Work> is gparted safe?
[19:00] <_abbenormal> yes
[19:00] <cF`Zuz|Work> I dont want to mess the machine, i dont have a backup windows dvd
[19:01] <_abbenormal> then you may want to do it on another drive
[19:01] <cF`Zuz|Work> only has 1 drive  :(
[19:01] <_abbenormal> well anytime you mess with the drive you run a risk of losing data or the drive all the way around
[19:02] <cF`Zuz|Work> I understand, thats why I wanted to know if gparted is safe, Ill take the risk, as long as I have a lot higher chance of success then failing  :)
[19:03] <_abbenormal> partion magic gparted hirens boot cd all work well
[19:04] <Gintulis> what app i can use for CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor on kubuntu?
[19:07] <cF`Zuz|Work> _abbenormal: do you know a good freeware backup utility so I can back up windows?  something like drime image (dont even know if thats still around, i used it years ago
[19:08] <_abbenormal> look for the herins boot cd there stuff on it
[19:12] <llutz> cF`Zuz|Work: look at clonezilla.org
[19:15] <cF`Zuz|Work> thanks
[19:37] <||arifaX> quassel makes me nuts where can I make my background black? - it is much too lighten in here :(
[19:38] <genii> Settings..Configure Quassel... Chat View
[19:40] <||arifaX> genii: you cannot make the background black there!
[19:49] <genii> ||arifaX: http://i34.tinypic.com/35kvf9x.png shows that page for me. Note where it says "Background" with the white square next to it. Clicking on the white square lets you choose the colour you want
[19:58] <Guest40141> cau
[19:58] <Guest40141> je tu nekdo z cech?
[19:59] <Unksi> !cz
[20:01] <Benkinooby> hi, i am really about my wirless. i want to use wpa but i can't! how can i check waht configs i have to use, if there is a good tool and if wpa_supplicant is working?
[20:02] <Benkinooby> i missed the word: desperate!
[20:12] <Benkinooby> need some help with wpa
[20:12] <Benkinooby> is there somebody who knows about this topic??
[20:19] <genii> Benkinooby: Is the WAP hidden or does it broadcast it's ESSID?
[20:20] <Benkinooby> genii: braodcast
[20:20] <Benkinooby> genii: can be seen by everyone
[20:20] <genii> Benkinooby: When you click on the networkmanager icon do you see it in the list?
[20:21] <Benkinooby> genii: yes
[20:21] <Benkinooby> genii: but when i want to connect it doesn't work
[20:21] <Benkinooby> genii: checked the key witch win xp -> works
[20:22] <genii> Benkinooby: You are using wpa2 with pre-shared key?
[20:22] <Benkinooby> genii: yes. i have to enter a passphrase
[20:22] <Benkinooby> genii: no username required
[20:23] <genii> Benkinooby: Are you using some compatability driver like ndiswrapper for the wifi card?
[20:24] <Benkinooby> genii: ? i don't know. i know my wlan is working on other wlans which don't have encryption or are wep encrypted
[20:24] <genii> Ok
[20:25] <hay> hi all.. I have trouble getting wlan to work.. I have added the connection details via Network Settings - Network Management interface and it says Last used: Never... however, when I do iwconfig, I get eth1: unassociated... what else should I do to get it working? thanks!
[20:25] <maco> is it wpa2?
[20:25] <hay> it is WEP and I set it
[20:25] <hay> it seems to never even start connecting
[20:25] <genii> Benkinooby: Is wpasupplicant installed?
[20:26] <maco> by the way, you cant do "iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys" if NM is running. like you cant associate from the command line while NM service is going
[20:26] <Benkinooby> genii: yes
[20:26] <Benkinooby> genii: it's called wpa_supplicant
[20:26] <maco> network settings -> network management...? where is this?
[20:26] <maco> not using the applet in the panel?
[20:26] <genii> !info wpasupplicant
[20:27] <genii> Hm
[20:27] <hay> maco, System Settings - Network Connectivity part - Network Settings
[20:27] <maco> oh i see
[20:28] <maco> hay: did you go to the network manager plasmoid on the panel and choose the network after you configured it?
[20:30] <andy___> hi everyone
[20:31] <hay> maco, yes... it just says Disconnected
[20:31] <HappyHippo> Jemand Interesse an ein Browsergame bei dem man Pferde zuechten und seinen eigenen Reitstall leiten kann? Meldet euch privat!
[20:31] <maco> hay: did you click on the network in there?
[20:32] <andy___> sowas hört sich nicht männlich an
[20:32] <Fanfare> HappyHippo: what Age?
[20:32] <HappyHippo> 13
[20:33] <Fanfare> my niece is just 8, so too young
[20:34] <HappyHippo> what's your niece!?
[20:34] <Fanfare> Meine Nichte
[20:34] <genii> !de
[20:34] <maco> Fanfare: too young for what?
[20:35] <llutz> genii: just a poor spammer
[20:35] <Fanfare> for that browsergame HappyHippo mentioned
[20:35] <maco> ah
[20:36] <PolitikerNEU> and btw.
[20:36] <PolitikerNEU> #ubuntu-de-offtopic would be more appropriate
[20:36] <Fanfare> anyone running capisuite in kubuntu?
[20:36] <HappyHippo> ok... thx...
[20:37] <genii> PolitikerNEU: Agreed, but I'm not aware of a bot fatoid to nuse which would point them to that channel, which I just found out existed now that you mentioned it's name
[20:37] <HappyHippo> i'm still quite unfamiliear with irc....
[20:37] <PolitikerNEU> true ...
[20:38] <genii> HappyHippo: You can join a channe by: /join #channelname
[20:39] <HappyHippo> ok thx... but how can i find channels ? on wikipedia i read that i can search with wildcards (/list *games*) but somehow it doesn't work....
[20:41] <maco> HappyHippo: what program are you using?
[20:41] <genii> HappyHippo: It uses much resources to use the /list ... instead I suggest search from http://searchirc.com/search.php?SCHANS=1&SSORT=SIZE&N=freenode
[20:41] <Fanfare> maco: Hes using quassel
[20:42] <maco> HappyHippo: right click the server name, and go to list channels. there's a filter box
[20:42] <maco> sorry its "show channel list"
[20:46] <hay> maco, it suddenly works now.. :) and I just restarted the notebook
[20:46] <hay> thanks
[21:00] <franco61> bye bye
[21:21] <markit> I've inserted a dvd, that on my pc works fine, in a friend of mine one, but kaffeine says: "cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd:/]", I've installed css and dvdread stuff... what else could be missing?
[21:21] <MTGap_> I updated koffice to beta 2.1 but kpresenter won't install bc of some dependency issues, I can't seem to resolved them with sudo apt-get -f install
[21:27] <markit> mmm now works, thanks
[21:34] <Lassekongo> Hello! Can anyone tell me how to open ports in kubuntu, been searching for a while now but can't find a proper answer?
[21:35] <joey_> hi
[21:39] <llutz> Lassekongo: start a process listening on a port and it will be open
[21:40] <Lassekongo> llutz: So if I start a torrent program and set it on any port, it will be open?
[21:41] <llutz> sure, but if you're using a router/firewall/whatever, you'll have to configure it too
[21:41] <Lassekongo> yeah that's already done
[21:42] <Lassekongo> but can you try to explain this, a torrent that I run on XP goes ~800 KiB/s, in kubuntu, no firewall, same port, same torrent, same seeders, ~20-100, does that have to do with ports or perhaps settings in the program?
[21:42] <llutz> Lassekongo: just a guess: settings
[21:43] <Lassekongo> ok, I'll check on that, thanks!
[22:02] <aftertaf> hey :)
[22:03] <aftertaf> anone know how to fix the k3b bug in a.66 alpha, dependency issue
[22:04] <ubuntu> Hello
[22:05] <Guest50384> I am trying to install Kubuntu on a seperate partition on my hdd, Im running the live disc and I get the the 4 of 6 page. Do I choose 1) Install them side by side, chooseing between them each startup or 4) Specify partitions manuall
[22:05] <Guest50384> y
[22:06] <Fanfare> Guest50384: should be side by side then
[22:06] <Guest50384> It will create a new partition yeh ?
[22:07] <Guest50384> I want to have vista installed as well, but don't want kubuntu to be installed inside windows (Like it has in the wubi thing)
[22:07] <Fanfare> well, it tryes to. not shure how stable resizing ntfs works though...
[22:07] <Guest50384> My friend also told me to set / as 10GB, 500mb swap and the rest of my space for /home
[22:08] <Fanfare> i suggest resize hdd from within windows (if possible) before installing ubuntu...
[22:08] <floh_> Hi, cron & anacron is installed on ubuntu by default.
[22:08] <floh_> But I don't really understand the docs.
[22:08] <Guest50384> Ok Fanfare thanks, nt sure how do to that ill just choose the first option and it will create a new partition yeh ? :D
[22:09] <floh_> I only need to create a cronjob with 'crontab -e', anacron will do it if my PC was off, right?
[22:09] <khaije|calli> what packages do i need to add to build kdevelop?
[22:09] <Fanfare> Guest50384: yes, but as told im not shure how stable resizing ntfs partitions is!
[22:09] <Fanfare> make backups!
[22:09] <khaije|calli> it says i don't have the qt libs installed
[22:09] <Guest50384> ok thansk, yeh i have got backups already ill give it ago
[22:09] <Guest50384> cheers
[22:10] <khaije|calli> i mean i know it sounds obvious, but i think i already have all of them installed
[22:10] <Fanfare> floh_: what exact prob do u have?
[22:10] <aftertaf> hey....  :)anone know how to fix the k3b bug in the 1.66 alpha, dependency issue in karmic
[22:11] <aftertaf> sorry to repeat :)
[22:11] <aftertaf> problem with burning mp3s to audio
[22:11] <floh_> Fanfare: I just want my PC call a script every days (at 5 o'clock in the morning).
[22:11] <floh_> But my PC is not running the whole day.
[22:11] <James147> aftertaf: for karmic questions go to #ubuntu+1
[22:11] <Fanfare> floh_: then edit /etc/crontab
[22:11] <aftertaf> have done, no answer, just asking
[22:12] <floh_> Fanfare: like 'crontab -e'?
[22:13] <Fanfare> whatever editor u like!
[22:13] <floh_> Fanfare: Is that all?
[22:13] <floh_> Fanfare: Don't I have to enable(?) somewhat on anacron?
[22:14] <khaije|calli> hmm.. nm, i forgot it was qt3
[22:14] <Fanfare> iirc ana(cron) rereads crontab every now and then...
[22:14] <Fanfare> floh_: but to get shure simply restart an(cron)
[22:15] <floh_> Fanfare: Ok, then its enough if I turn off my machine. *g* Then I'll see if its run in next startup.
[22:16] <floh_> Fanfare: One question is remaining... how does anacron work if a machine was off 4 days. Will it run the daily job 4 time or only 1? (I need it only 1 time since I'm calling rsync)
[22:17] <Fanfare> floh_: only next specified time
[22:18] <floh_> Fanfare: Ok. I thought I have to edit /etc/anacrontab. But I understand now I can do the same way like with cron ('crontab -e').
[22:18] <Fanfare> /etc/crontab belongs to cron, use sudo /etc/init.d/cron restart to restart , no need to reboot
[22:18] <floh_> Fanfare: Thank you, I'll try it out.
[22:19] <floh_> Fanfare: Sure... but I don't want to wait till 5 o'clock in the morning, and my pc is only on if I'm awake. ;)
[22:20] <floh_> Fanfare: This is why I need anacron.
[22:20] <Fanfare> then id suggest to place a script in //etc/cron.daily
[22:21] <floh_> Yes, but then the script is run as root, isn't it?
[22:22] <Fanfare> yes
[22:22] <floh_> Fanfare: Hm... :/ I don't like it... it should be run as "user".
[22:23] <Fanfare> u can su inside the script
[22:23] <floh_> Fanfare: Shouldn't anacron work with /var/spool/cron/crontabs/username ?
[22:24] <Fanfare> just reading anacron man since i only used cron so far ... :-)
[22:24] <floh_> Fanfare: Sure I can do su inside the script.
[22:25] <floh_> Fanfare: No problem, I'll try it out and see tommorow if it worked. ;) Thank you very much.
[22:25] <Fanfare> np, have fun!
[22:26] <floh_> Thanx. Good night! :)
[22:40] <khaije|calli> does kubuntu has kde3 dev libs in it's repos anymore?
[22:49] <floh_> What exactly does "delay" mean in anacrontab file?
[22:49] <floh_> If I say 5 does it mean call the script at uptime of 5mins?
[23:10] <darthanubis> kdid firefox start all of a sudden segfaulting for anyone but myself?
[23:18] <westy> what the widget that displays cpu load internet load hd load?
[23:19] <Kaj-Laptop> westy, system monitor
[23:20] <westy> thank you
[23:25] <westy> gkrelm was what i was looking for i found it
[23:26] <ni1s> I'm trying to activate "Edge Flip" in KDE 4.3, under which heading can I find its configuration dialog?
[23:28] <xgus> do some body know how turn off the blue thooth adapter on a dell studio ?
[23:28] <ni1s> xgus, often possible in the BIOS
[23:29] <Werenerd> Howdy all, can anyone recomend an easy to use program that can rip a game dvd to an iso?
[23:31] <darthanubis> westy: gkrellm will look aweful in KDE
[23:31] <darthanubis> I hate that
[23:31] <Werenerd> if it matters, it's C&C the first decade from the bargain bin $5. I am not pirating.
[23:35] <vlt> Hello. Before updating from 8.04 to 9.04 I could use Amarok to manage music on my iPod. Where's this function gone?
[23:36] <xgus> hey nils, thanks
[23:38] <ni1s> xgus, np
[23:39] <ni1s> is there a netbook-launcher more aimed for kubuntu?
[23:46] <ni1s> gah!
[23:47] <ni1s> I remember finding this stuff before


[04:19] <jrussouw> hello
[04:19] <wxl> wuzzup jrussouw
[04:21] <jrussouw> i am just trying to find out how to use irc , i am running Lubntu 18.04 on an HP530 laptop
[04:21] <wxl> seems like you figured it out XD
[04:22] <jrussouw> i am using pidgin messenger
[04:23] <jrussouw> at the moment my only problem in Ram on my laptop , I have only 1 Gig
[05:20] <lubuntufan> hello
[16:34] <kokmedia> hello
[16:35] <kokmedia> it looks like latte dock pulls in a bunch of plasma stuff and dependencies.
[16:35] <kokmedia> is there a preferred /recommended dock alt?
[16:35] <kokmedia> or should i be okay with latte dock
[16:35] <kokmedia> ?
[16:35] <kokmedia> using 18.10
 @kokmedia [<kokmedia> using 18.10], it is possible to use latte dock with all the dedences, but it is a very particular software of kde plasma, I love it, but personally in LXQt I use Plank.
 You could use another panel as a dock
[21:49] <guy> Booted 18.10 from a flash drive to a Lenovo 110s, the track pad isn't recognized. are there any options?
[23:35] <n-iCe> hi


[17:36] <Tagren> Hello
[17:36] <Tagren> Is this strictly IRC support or would you happen to also know your way around hardware?
[17:36] <jussi> Tagren: support only, try ##hardware
[17:37] <Tagren> thanks


[01:27] <Cheri703> unit193: just talked to that lubuntu guy at work, he said he might check out Ubuntu hour.
[01:27] <Cheri703> also: android wants to autocorrect lubuntu to lubing.
[01:28] <Cheri703> lunch break is over, heading back to be a cubicle drone.
[01:29] <Unit193> Haha! Wow... That's great too!
[01:45] <Unit193> I wonder if I'd know his name....
[01:46] <Unit193> I now have Cmas shopping ready for Monday
[01:47] <jrgifford> Unit193: that sounds as terrible as black friday...
[01:47] <jrgifford> in other news, merry (early) christmas!
[01:50] <Unit193> jrgifford: It really wasn't, every sane person was already done (and we closed the 24/7 store!)
[01:50] <jrgifford> Unit193: haha nice.
[01:51] <Unit193> Oh, I ALWAYS have it done so soon!
[01:51] <Unit193> ;)
[01:51] <jrgifford> I'll start my christmas shopping for 2012 in feb/march.
[01:52] <jrgifford> and i'll be done by june. lol
[01:53] <dzho> -.-
[01:54] <Unit193> Hey, I got one item last week, that's kind of early...
[01:55] <jrgifford> hah!
[06:58] <Unit193> Merry Christmas/Joyeux Noel!
[07:05] <jackson> MC HNY
[07:06] <jackson> oh HH
[07:06] <jackson> lol
[07:06] <jackson> BS
[07:06] <jackson> :)
[20:17] <jrgifford> Unit193: congrats on being nominated to be the lubuntu IRC POC.


[21:55] <SchrodingersScat> ophuk: ohh, ok, great then.  yeah, i see now I missed the line where you exclaim that you got it to work.  huh, ok. right on.
[21:55] <adante> TJ-: alrighty, cheers
[21:55] <ObrienDave> anew2, oh please explain the logic of your request, we are waiting with bated breath
[21:55] <bazhang> anew2, /join #winehq
[21:55] <guntbert> ObrienDave: not needed
[21:55] <OerHeks> anew2, check the wine HQ database https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=18256
[21:55] <anew2> i am using a windows program on ubuntu, and it is dependent on firefox...
[21:56] <bazhang> anew2, so check the appdb, /join #winehq
[21:56] <OerHeks> anew2, carefull, flash will not work :-D
[21:56] <anew2> i was just explaining to everyone who asked why
[21:59] <adante> TJ-: success! thanks! do you have paypal?
[21:59] <TJ-> adante: No, but I have 2 huskies that need a 10 mile run :)
[21:59] <Beldar> lol
[22:00]  * TJ- hands adante  the reins :)
[22:00] <ObrienDave> watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow ;P
[22:00] <Mark-Struggling> Hi All I hate to come on here and beg, but I've screwed myself and now I dont know what to do... I corrupted the sudoers file, and I have now restored it to the 14.04 default but now I can't run any commands with sudo anymore... If there is anyone out there that can help I will forever be in gratitude
[22:00] <Beldar> FZ
[22:00] <bluetower> figured out my problem
[22:00] <adante> TJ-: uh if thats not a metaphor for something... i probably can't help you - sorry!
[22:01] <ObrienDave> Beldar, +1
[22:01] <TJ-> adante: Thanks for the offer... but I do this to contribute back to the Free Open Source community
[22:01] <bluetower> OK get this, I couldnt see any thing in my terminal. I installed xfce.. come to find out a setting by default was checked that put black font on black background
[22:01] <Deihmos> ubuntu locks up randomly for me. How do I figure out the reason
[22:02]  * Beldar considers changing the nick to bobby brown
[22:02] <k1l> Deihmos: locks up like screenlock or like hanging/crashing
[22:02] <TJ-> Mark-Struggling: Boot in Recovery mode, drop to the root shell, and then you can repair it
[22:02] <Deihmos> freezes
[22:03] <k1l> Deihmos: first look should go into dmesg and /var/log/syslog after that freeze happened
[22:03] <Deihmos> after i reboot?
[22:03] <Red_Mist> have a noob question here... I'm trying to run a program but I keep getting this error... http://pastebin.com/sS4U63ET
[22:03] <Deihmos> nothing similiar to windows event viewer in ubuntu
[22:03] <Mark-Struggling> TJ- I think I have managed to fix the file now, the problem is that when I try run any command with sudo, it does work, eg. sudo su, sudo -s, sudo chmod, sudo chown etc....
[22:04] <k1l> after you rebooted see the syslog.0 or syslog.1 in the /var/log/ directory
[22:04] <TJ-> k1l: Deihmos: More useful to look at "/var/log/kern.log" - "/var/log/dmesg" only contains the boot-time kernel messages
[22:04] <k1l> Deihmos: or dmesg.1
[22:04] <adante> TJ-: appreciate the speed at which you fixed that - it'd probably be a 2-3 hour round trip for me
[22:04] <TJ-> adante: You're fortunate I'm currently writing an extensive guide on the PC boot process and how to fix the various issues, so this stuff is 2nd nature to me
[22:05] <k1l> TJ-: ok. dmesg was good for a first look for me so far
[22:05] <bluetower> Red_Mist, is this on a ras pi?
[22:06] <TJ-> k1l: I usually use dmesg for boot-time info and kern.log for later issues, such as suspend/resume, Panics, and freezes
[22:06] <Red_Mist> bluetower its on my computer
[22:07] <Red_Mist> but the ras pi looks cool.
[22:09] <daftykins> Red_Mist: ask the people that make these bitcoin miner programs, it's not very relevant here.
[22:09] <bluetower> Red_Mist, I'm a little lost. the errors are for i2c thats a type of serial bus that computers use.. as I'm reading it if I'm not missing someting there is no device driver or manager. I think your having a device issue.
[22:09] <Red_Mist> its possible... let me ask another question then.
[22:10] <Red_Mist> is it fair to say that when running things as root in ubuntu, one should use "sudo" or is there a way to actually run things as root?
[22:10] <bluetower> daftykins, ohhhhhh that makes sense. is that a program for controlling a hardware based bitcoin mining ?
[22:10] <daftykins> bluetower: not hardware no, more likely GPU
[22:10] <daftykins> which ok is hardware, but - you get me i'm sure :)
[22:11] <bluetower> daftykins, that was going to be my runner up question. what kind of GPU does he have
[22:11] <Red_Mist> yeah, its gpu bitmining..
[22:11] <ObrienDave> Red_Mist, you should use sudo
[22:12] <ezio> i want to update phpmyadmin.  it says that there's nothing to upgrade.  but i know that's a filthy lie.
[22:12] <bluetower> so ya Red_Mist your issue is the fact that the program is looking for hardware control. so there is more software you may need or something to be configured. the other issue could be the drivers you have loaded for your video card or the lack of support maybe.
[22:12] <ezio> any ideas?
[22:13] <ezio> i think it's because i'm on 12.04
[22:13] <Red_Mist> bluetower: okay, thanks for the help.. I had a suspicion that was the case.
[22:13] <bekks> ezio: the latest version in the ubuntu repos is not necessarily the latest upstream version.
[22:13] <bluetower> Red_Mist, I dont know how much you know about bitmining, but the older ATI video cards of a certain range are the IDEAL
[22:14] <ezio> bekks, i have a recent installation of ubuntu and its phpmyadmin is much more awsomer
[22:14] <Red_Mist> bluetower: I'm using a 6850 so I should be set for "ideal" just having a hard time getting the right software installed as all the documentation is as old as the hardware.
[22:14] <bekks> ezio: And still the version in the repos for your specific release isnt the same for all releases.
[22:15] <ezio> bekks, right so how can i upgrade that
[22:15] <ezio> just ... include a new repo?
[22:15] <ezio> this is a production server.  that might not be a good thing?
[22:16] <bekks> ezio: No, either include a PPA (which is unsupported in here) or update it manually. On a productive server, I'd stick with the version from the repos. Which release are you on?
[22:16] <Red_Mist> thanks again bluetower freenode has a #cgminer room! gonna check it out.
[22:16] <ezio> bekks, 12.04
[22:16] <ezio> looooooooooool
[22:16] <OerHeks> !ops
[22:16] <ejuan> lulz
[22:17] <ezio> entertaining
[22:17] <Red_Mist> ezio... sure is
[22:17] <bluetower> wake me when they are kicked.                                                                                Got an Ubuntu 14.04 server running. I'm trying to use key authentication to set up a passwordless login for a particular user on the server
[22:21] <daftykins> Red_Mist: ok, still off topic here so please keep it elsewhere
[22:21] <welly> I keep getting "Roaming not allowed by server" when I ssh into it with ssh -v
[22:22] <welly> used ssh-copy-id to upload my public key to the server, have checked the permissions on my local machine
[22:22] <ezio> it's like when the firebell goes and nobody hast to work!
[22:22] <welly> no idea what left to try
[22:22] <Tex_Nick> genii: they might have had a caffeine overdose ? ;)
[22:22] <Red_Mist> so back on topic then.. I guess my mom would be up for sucking cock for free..
[22:22] <genii> Tex_Nick: Possibly :)
[22:22] <welly> I'm able to ssh on to other servers, just this new one is giving me problems
[22:22] <Tex_Nick> ;)
[22:22] <ObrienDave> wow, simply wow
[22:23] <ezio> Red_Mist, all these years i've been paying
[22:23] <ezio> so from what i'm hearing ... best to update phpmyadmin by hand
[22:24] <bekks> ezio: Best to keep the latest version from the repos on a productive server.
[22:25] <ezio> bekks, can you rephrase that?  not quite sure of the denotation
[22:27] <bekks> ezio: I'd not update things manually on productive servers unless you actually need new feature as requirements of the productive usage.
[22:27] <ezio> bekks, that is exactly it
[22:27] <bekks> ezio: So which feature of phpmyadmin do you need from the manual update?
[22:27] <ezio> inline editing
[22:27] <bluetower> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8048933/            ok here is my video card the next thing I'm working on is I need to get 3d video drivers working
[22:28] <bluetower> the most stable I can for an ATI x1050 video card
[22:28] <ezio> oh and there's just a ton of other stuff
[22:28] <bekks> ezio: Inline editing of... queries/statements?
[22:28] <ezio> but he says inline editing
[22:28] <ezio> and he's a supernoob
[22:28] <ezio> records
[22:28] <bekks> ezio: He should get a sane sql editor then instead of a web gui :)
[22:29] <ezio> he wouldn't know what to do
[22:29] <bekks> ezio: So he doesnt knwo what to do in phpmyadmin.
[22:29] <ezio> he uses the godaddy phpmyadmin
[22:29] <bluetower> should I install these 3 packages? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=glxgears
[22:29] <ezio> and wants phpmyadmin to work the same way
[22:30] <ezio> yeah
[22:30] <ezio> you're right bekks
[22:30] <ezio> it's not worth risking the server over
[22:32] <bluetower> ?
[22:32] <mzaza> I have Sony Vaio laptop which has a USB Port which could charge USB devices, even if the laptop is switched off. It used to work in Windows, but it doesn't work in Ubuntu. Any idea on how to get it working?
[22:33] <TJ-> mzaza: depends on proprietary driver from Sony, which as far as I recall is only available  on Windows.
[22:33] <mzaza> TJ-: Thanks :)
[22:36] <Martiini> how do I stop a command to print errors? I want to omit error output of find command
[22:38] <kostkon> Martiini, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8220098/how-to-redirect-the-output-of-an-application-in-background-to-dev-null
[22:39] <Martiini> kostkon, > /dev/null 2>&1 wont print a thing
[22:40] <kostkon> Martiini, 2> only redirects stderr, it does not touch stdout
[22:41] <kostkon> Martiini, http://askubuntu.com/questions/350208/what-does-2-dev-null-mean
[22:42] <alfonsojon> Where can I go for PowerPC support? #ubuntu-powerpc seems dead.
[22:42] <daftykins> it's not supported
[22:42] <daftykins> at all.
[22:43] <alfonsojon> It's supported by the community.
[22:44] <alfonsojon> PowerPC also receives new builds of any open-source software in the repos.
[22:44] <daftykins> i fail to see what the distinction you believe to be making there is
[22:44] <alfonsojon> I don't count that as "unsupported"
[22:44] <daftykins> alfonsojon: then consult the community :)
[22:44] <kostkon> alfonsojon, ask for support here
[22:45] <daftykins> kostkon: that's against policy actually
[22:45] <alfonsojon> kostkon: Alright
[22:45] <alfonsojon> ...
[22:45] <daftykins> !ppc
[22:45] <daftykins> dead after edgy.
[22:45] <alfonsojon> Not "dead" at all...
[22:45] <alfonsojon> I'm running 12.04 just fine right now...
[22:45] <Martiini> kostkon, heh, grep -ri error 2> /dev/null printed output of EVERYTHING .. screens of random data
[22:45] <kostkon> no idea then
[22:45] <daftykins> alfonsojon: i can run windows 3.11, doesn't mean i'd go and phone up Microsoft to have help with it
[22:45] <kostkon> Martiini, :/
[22:45] <daftykins> see my point?
[22:45] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys trying to get my swap working in 14.04, i typed "mkswap /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-swap_1" and it made a swap appear, i am assuminng that is not the encrypted swap that was made during the install of 14.04, so could i temporaroly use that, or would i bne able to easily encrypt it and run it as well, perhaps making a script to mount it on every bootup
[22:46] <alfonsojon> daftykins: But you can go on an IRC channel.
[22:46] <alfonsojon> daftykins: Also, I'm using a non-EOL distro.
[22:46] <alfonsojon> Ubuntu 12.04.
[22:46] <daftykins> alfonsojon: right, as long as it's not this one
[22:46] <alfonsojon> Windows 3.1 has been long-since end-of-life
[22:46] <alfonsojon> ...
[22:46] <alfonsojon> I don't see the reason for the hostility though.
[22:47] <alfonsojon> I'm just using Ubuntu on PowerPC.
[22:47] <daftykins> there is no hostility, i am just stating fact
[22:47] <daftykins> and you are challenging fact
[22:47] <alfonsojon> But if it were not supported, then I would not be running it right now.
[22:47] <alfonsojon> Yesterday, I received help regarding nomodeset that got it booted and running fine.
[22:47] <ObrienDave> ROFLMAO
[22:47] <kostkon> ??
[22:47] <alfonsojon> ?
[22:47] <daftykins> i want what ObrienDave is having
[22:48] <daftykins> alfonsojon: probably 'cause you didn't state what it was at the time
[22:48] <daftykins> just like we sometimes mistakenly help Mint users until we find out they're using that instead of ubuntu
[22:48] <testerr> Hi, everyone. Is there a way to get the environment variables for a specific user? I'm trying to figure out a way for crontab to get an up-to-date version of my user's env
[22:48] <ObrienDave> alfonsojon> But if it were not supported, then I would not be running it right now.
[22:48] <Beldar> alfonsojon, YOU got help and said you found the answer since you were using yaboot.
[22:48] <alfonsojon> Beldar: Yes, but it was the right fix
[22:49] <alfonsojon> I just needed to type "live nomodeset"
[22:49] <alfonsojon> :P
[22:49] <daftykins> anyway, arguing policy is a sure fire way to get ignored around here
[22:49] <daftykins> if you're going to run your ancient antique, that's fine, but do it on someone elses time please
[22:50] <Beldar> alfonsojon, You are a user that will word what you want to suit your point rather true or not, go away.
[22:50] <alfonsojon> Sorry.
[22:50] <adante> can someone tell me how to install this: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/mythtv_0.27
[22:50] <alfonsojon> I apologize for being a bit immature
[22:50] <adante> ive done the add-apt-repository and apt-get-update but when i do apt-cache show it still shows Version 2:0.27.0
[22:51] <adante> i assume this is still getting from the main repository and not the ppa i just installed? however I would like to install the ppa version
[22:51] <adante> (which is more up to date)
[22:51] <ObrienDave> adante, notice the 0.27? that is the PPA version
[22:51] <daftykins> adante: pretty sure there's a mythtv channel
[22:52] <adante> ObrienDave: the ppa version is 2:0.27.3+fixes.20140812.082d5c1-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 ?
[22:52] <Beldar> alfonsojon, Besides the fact you were trying to get help on a derivative earlier that our conversation yesterday which I overlooked.
[22:52] <Beldar> than*
[22:52] <adante> ObrienDave: the version showing on apt-cache show is 0.27.0
[22:52] <alfonsojon> Beldar: It was Kubuntu, sorry
[22:52] <bluetower> brb
[22:53] <alfonsojon> well, once I came here for nvidia support on elementary as well
[22:53] <OerHeks> adante are you on raring?
[22:53] <alfonsojon> that was also a bad idea.
[22:53] <daftykins> alfonsojon: indeed, so you deceive us into helping. now, conversation over
[22:54] <alfonsojon> I get that
[22:54] <alfonsojon> I have been done, I'm sorry.
[22:54] <adante> OerHeks: sorry what?
[22:54] <alfonsojon> :/
[22:55] <ObrienDave> adante, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:55] <kardan> hey, I ran into an issue upgrading from precise to trusty via "upgrade-manager -d": http://paste.debian.net/plain/115666 - E: Internal Error, No file name for libss2
[22:55] <TJ-> daftykins: I take issue with the 'support' interpretation vis PPC architecture. The "no-support" is specific to *Canonical Paid Support* but the announcement specifically states that PPC will remain a "community supported" architecture. This channel is for "community support" - we're not employed nor paid by Canonical.
[22:55] <k1l> kardan: no -d needed
[22:55] <kardan> should I try to upgrade to quantal before aiming for trusty directly?
[22:55] <adante> ObrienDave: 14.04
[22:55] <fedora_newb> I am getting system program problem detected on system startup and not sure what the issue is. Restarted after update.
[22:56] <fedora_newb> Happned on a my separate partition and virtualhost
[22:56] <daftykins> TJ-: i see your point, but then we also refuse to help with EOL releases don't we?
[22:56] <k1l> kardan: no. 12.04 to 14.04 is ok since its a LTS upgrade. but no - (for developer) needed
[22:56] <alfonsojon> I'm on 12.04....
[22:56] <daftykins> so why not 'EOL' architectures? :)
[22:56] <Martiini> kostkon, ok, what is grep command for including certain lines
[22:56] <TJ-> daftykins: But we still publish 12.04 and 14.04 PPC ISOs and build the packages
[22:57] <daftykins> i thought the community built those images
[22:57] <k1l> kardan: usually PPAs make trouble on upgrades
[22:57] <kardan> update-manager spits 'ERROR:/build/buildd/pygobject-3.2.2/gi/gimodule.c:328:_wrap_pyg_hook_up_vfunc_implementation: assertion failed: (G_TYPE_IS_CLASSED (implementor_gtype))'
[22:57] <adante> ObrienDave: am i misunderstanding something regarding the .27.3 vs .27.0 thing?
[22:57] <TJ-> daftykins: Additionally, on [1] it states "Server (LTS, 5 years)" against the 14.04 release link to ISO [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads/
[22:58] <daftykins> probably just a copy paste referring to the version
[22:58] <OerHeks> adante,  ah, cache reads the installed packes, run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[22:58] <kardan> I commented all sources and PPAs except de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted and security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[22:58] <TJ-> daftykins: I agree it is confusing, but I don't think it is correct to refuse community support as if the user is doing something bad
[22:58] <ObrienDave> adante, yes, i think so
[22:58] <alfonsojon> I may just try Debian
[22:58] <alfonsojon> Oh wrong channel
[22:59] <alfonsojon> Sorry
[22:59] <daftykins> we've got a real joker on our hands now
[22:59] <TJ-> daftykins: The PPC releases contain the same package versions as the other architectures
[22:59] <adante> OerHeks: mythtv is not installed so it is not showing the installed package
[22:59] <kostkon> Martiini, not an expert on grep sorry :(  what you need is a good grep tutorial :D
[22:59] <alfonsojon> I am on ##linux, I asked if anyone knew of an officially supported powerpc distro
[22:59] <daftykins> TJ-: alright, but in case you haven't seen this user before, they're a chronic liar about what distro is even in use just to try and get help when other channels are quiet
[22:59] <ObrienDave> TJ-, daftykins, no PPC ISO here ;P http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/
[23:00] <alfonsojon> `Cel sent me a link to distrowatch, sorted by powerpc
[23:00] <alfonsojon> I saw Debian under Ubuntu, so I wanted to thank him
[23:00] <daftykins> alfonsojon: that's lovely but off topic here, no need to share thanks
[23:00] <alfonsojon> I was in the wrong channel, apologies
[23:00] <TJ-> daftykins: I'm not interested in the user, just the principle of Community Support for currently released and maintained packages
[23:00] <daftykins> right well i'd like to move on now if possible
[23:00] <OerHeks> alfonsojon, ubuntu has a community supported ppc ubuntu, not official http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/
[23:01] <adante> ObrienDave: can you elaborate on what i'm missing?
[23:01] <daftykins> OerHeks: that point has kinda been the last 15 mins of convo haha
[23:01] <alfonsojon> OerHeks: It doesn't work, so I'm using 12.04. Thanks for the suggestion though :)
[23:01] <Martiini> kostkon, ha ha ha ha
[23:01] <OerHeks> that must be an ancient ppc, G3?
[23:02] <alfonsojon> G4
[23:02] <kostkon> kardan, are you getting the same errors after an sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[23:02] <alfonsojon> The problem is the GPU, LightDM locks up after a few seconds.
[23:02] <kostkon> Martiini, :)
[23:02] <alfonsojon> Doesn't seem to affect 12.04.
[23:02] <kardan> I managed to solve one of the dependency issues for gdm manually, following dpkg's errors via installing some libraries from the cache directy. But there is no way to go that path for all the pasted issues.
[23:02] <netlar> I am pleasantly surprised how stable 14.04 is
[23:02] <netlar> I had so many problems with 13.04
[23:03] <ObrienDave> adante, what you're missing is once you install the PPA, install/upgrade defaults to the latest version
[23:03] <Martiini> kostkon, apparently, like with anything else in linux, you can do a million things with grep, but it wont do the most simple and logical thing you want
[23:03] <netlar> Even using the open source video driver and it works perfectly
[23:03] <fedora_newb> If it helps, I was using nginx server on it and I can't access it after the updates. Not sure what course of action I should take?
[23:03] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues#A14.04_Trusty_Tahr
[23:04] <kardan> apt-get dist-upgrade "E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f."
[23:04] <ObrienDave> adante, you will get the newest version
[23:04] <willief> re my earlier query about corrupted 14.04 server downloads - I got a good install off the netboot image - slow but at least I have a system now
[23:04] <kostkon> Martiini, agreed
[23:04] <willief> TJ-: ^^^^^
[23:04] <Martiini> fuck this, I hate computers, I'm going outside
[23:04] <kostkon> kardan, you can always try a sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:04] <kardan> kostkon, I think there is some dependency issue apt is unable to resolve.
[23:04] <kostkon> :(
[23:05] <kardan> "E: Internal Error, No file name for libss2"
[23:05] <adante> ObrienDave: ok, i'll give it a go, cheers
[23:06] <ObrienDave> adante, good luck :)
[23:06] <kostkon> kardan, or clean the cache apt-get clean then attempt to continue the upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade or apt-get install -f first
[23:07] <TJ-> For reference, all Martiini needs to ignore errors from 'find' is: "find /path <options> 2>/dev/null" to redirect stderr file-descriptor to nothing
[23:08] <kostkon> kardan, and enable all the standard ubuntu repos if you have disabled some of them
[23:08] <fedora_newb> Any help would be appreciated.
[23:08] <k1l> daftykins: Beldar alfonsojon OerHeks TJ- : if ppc is still community supported it should be supported in here since this channel is part of the community. if its too ppc specific the chances are quite low to solve the issues but the channel still could try to help if the users want to. thanks
[23:09] <fedora_newb> Is there anyway to rollback updates?
[23:10] <alfonsojon> fedora_newb: Distro upgrades or a package upgrade?
[23:10] <alfonsojon> As in 12.04 to 14.04, or just updating a specific  package?
[23:10] <k1l> fedora_newb: there is no downgrade option for ubuntu
[23:10] <kostkon> fedora_newb, if by that you mean updated versions of packages from ppas, then yes, with ppapurge
[23:11] <popey> you can downgrade specific packages, even multiple packages, but it's not recommended.
[23:11] <k1l> fedora_newb: but you can force an older version of one package and make that hold. but i am not used to that
[23:11] <popey> apt-get install packagename=version
[23:11] <fedora_newb> I am not sure. I am getting System program problem detected on startup. My nginx, phpmysqmin, etc I can't access.
[23:11] <Beldar> k1l, I never questioned the support. It was the wording of the user claiming no support when I had helped them, they had never heard of nomodeset. They are using a 3rd part boot yaboot so they had to find answers that worked. Beyond that they were trying to get support on a derivative knowing it was not supported and argumentative there.
[23:11] <fedora_newb> I really need it right now too. Deadlineswith work. :/
[23:12] <alfonsojon> Beldar: And I apologize for being aggressive
[23:12] <TJ-> fedora_newb: check the recently changed log files for clues
[23:12] <fedora_newb> http://screencast.com/t/p3vJJ97OC
[23:12] <fedora_newb> Not sure if that helps?
[23:12] <k1l> Beldar: yes, it should be made clear what setup that is to not run in the wrong direction with the efforts of the volunteers.
[23:13] <fedora_newb> Is it possible all my config files were jacked up?
[23:13] <popey> I'd look to fix what's broken rather than downgrade fedora_newb
[23:13] <fedora_newb> How can I tell what is broken?
[23:13] <popey> fedora_newb: well, what doesn't work?
[23:13] <popey> fedora_newb: what's the actual issue
[23:13] <Beldar> k1l, They will argue there own rhetoric whether within channel norms or not or even right or wrong
[23:14] <fedora_newb> popey, to begin with, when I restarted because of an update, I get System program problem detected. And my web server is down.
[23:14] <popey> fedora_newb: system program problems occur now and then, and may or may not be related to the issue at hand
[23:14] <popey> fedora_newb: I would look at the logs for your webserver, usually in /var/log somewhere
[23:15] <popey> fedora_newb: the system problem popup is indicating something crashed, you can see the crash files in /var/crash which will indicate what crashed
[23:16] <fedora_newb> popey it seems that php5-fpm crashed
[23:16] <popey> ok
[23:17] <popey> fedora_newb: so nginx is your webserver?
[23:17] <fedora_newb> popey, yep.
[23:17] <popey> fedora_newb: so if you run "ps aux | grep nginx" is there any process (other than grep) listed?
[23:18] <fedora_newb> nginx: worker?
[23:18] <fedora_newb> @ popey
[23:18] <popey> sorry?
[23:19] <fedora_newb> popey http://pastebin.com/0qeUetqd
[23:20] <popey> yay, its running
[23:20] <popey> so, what's the problem? ☻
[23:21] <fedora_newb> I can't access like my sites externally
[23:21] <kardan_> kostkon, thanks for your help. This is what I try: mv /var/cache/apt/archives{,.bck}; mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial; apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -fy # ETA 1h 3min
[23:21] <bekks> fedora_newb: What do you mean by "externally"? How exactly are you trying to access them?
[23:22] <popey> bekks: its a vm
[23:22] <fedora_newb> popey, bekks, so like for phpmyadmin, I had it setup to access on my windows machine through pma-dev.com
[23:22] <fedora_newb> Yes, its a vm
[23:22] <Greena> hey, just installed vsftpd but I can't seem to start it using service vsftpd start on ubuntu 14.04
[23:22] <popey> fedora_newb: has the IP address changed?
[23:23] <Greena> there seems to be an upstart script in /etc/init/vsftpd but service starting gives me "vsftpd: unrecognized service"
[23:23] <kostkon> kardan, ETA for getting the packages?
[23:23] <kardan> yep
[23:23] <OmegAlpha> i know this may sound like an absurd question.. but is anyone in here from South Africa?
[23:24] <Beldar> OmegAlpha, There may be a local there, not a channel question.
[23:25] <OmegAlpha> Beldar: i know its off-topic.. trying to find an old mate from ten years ago who was teaching me linux.. i forgot his nick though :-\
[23:25] <Beldar> OmegAlpha, Not the place is all.
[23:25] <k1l> OmegAlpha: you are free to talk about this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:26] <OmegAlpha> Beldar: he hangs out here.. this is where i met him.. so i figured i would ask.. sorry for the interruption. carry on :)
[23:28] <OmegAlpha> is there a chat log for this channel and if so... how far back do they date to?
[23:28] <popey> !logs | OmegAlpha
[23:31] <alfonsojon> Is GCC 4.8 available in the 12.04 backports repo?
[23:31] <vaaibuscar-inj> hi
[23:31] <vaaibuscar-inj> does anybody here exprienced with sql injection ? Looking for someone skilled, smth fast. reward with btc. Pm me for info.
[23:32] <popey> alfonsojon: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc-4.8 says no
[23:32] <alfonsojon> Alright, thanks popey
[23:32] <popey> np
[23:32] <ricksebak> I just upgraded a server from 12.04 to 14.04 via do-release-upgrade, now when it boots I just get this periodically scrolling across the console:http://imgur.com/ro2rMMv
[23:32] <kostkon> vaaibuscar-inj, you are in the wrong channel
[23:33] <Frank__> popey, bekks, ip adress was the issue. Thanks guys for your help!
[23:33] <popey> Frank__: sweet!
[23:33] <alfonsojon> ricksebak: That would be a kernel panic.
[23:33] <popey> Frank__: happy it's sorted
[23:33] <Frank__> Very much appreciated, saved my day :)
[23:33] <popey> \o/
[23:33] <popey> you've made mine, I will sleep happy now ㋛
[23:33] <Frank__> haha :)
[23:34] <ricksebak> alfonsojon: any idea what I can do about it? I tried the upgrade yesterday, got the same error, reverted to a snapshot and tried again today, same result.
[23:34] <popey> ricksebak: is this a vm?
[23:34] <ricksebak> It is, yes.
[23:34] <popey> ricksebak: vbox/vmware, something else?
[23:34] <ricksebak> vbox
[23:35] <ricksebak> with 12.04 as the host, in case that matters.
[23:35] <alfonsojon> ricksebak: I'm not sure, but it seems popey knows what he's doing :)
[23:35] <popey> ricksebak: can you hold down shift when the vm boots and maybe select the older kernel?
[23:35] <popey> ricksebak: might boot, and if it does, helps to diagnose further
[23:36] <ProfessorKaos64> Is a good reason to to a remaster of Ubuntu if my intent is to have a dedicated gaming distro , and a stable snapshot of the project?
[23:36] <popey> ProfessorKaos64: depends if you think your time is well spent doing that
[23:36] <kostkon> ProfessorKaos64, for personal use?
[23:36] <ProfessorKaos64> personal yea
[23:37] <popey> ProfessorKaos64: personally, SteamOS seems like a good option for a dedicated gaming distro, add desura and wine and you're done
[23:37] <ProfessorKaos64> Right not I have a retro gaming installer script that does a lot of work with packages
[23:37] <popey> sounds fun
[23:37] <ProfessorKaos64> popey, the* popey that is on LAS often?
[23:37] <popey> the same
[23:37] <ProfessorKaos64> Nice to meet you
[23:37] <popey> you too
[23:37] <ProfessorKaos64> We are ending up modifying xbmc heavily and several things, control is paramount, for now we apt-hold pkgs and the like
[23:38] <ricksebak> popey: Kernel panic on the older kernel, and also recovery mode on the older kernel.
[23:38] <ProfessorKaos64> upgrade the kernel on 14.04 due to the hid-sony bug
[23:38] <popey> ricksebak: eek
[23:38] <popey> ricksebak: did the upgrade complete okay?
[23:38] <ricksebak> yeah
[23:38] <ProfessorKaos64> I'll have to consider a remaster after I hit 1.0 in my project and thing are stable
[23:39] <popey> ricksebak: does vbox support some kind of virtual external serial console, so you can capture the entire kernel panic?
[23:39] <popey> ricksebak: it could be something silly like the vbox extensions, or some option in vbox that needs flipping like pae or something
[23:40] <Deihmos> how do I find out why ubuntu locked up
[23:40] <ProfessorKaos64> popey, with SteamOS I have thought about targeting that at some point, since xbmc was added to the project not long ago
[23:41] <popey> Deihmos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[23:41] <ricksebak> I definitely suspect something silly like you mentioned, but I don't think it supports anything other than a plain old console. I can only get one screen full at a time until it scrolls away. I do know that during the upgrade, the vbox kernel modules got removed. Does that sound related?
[23:42] <popey> ricksebak: should be okay with or without them. I'd be inclined to boot that vm off a live iso, mount the filesystem and poke at /var/log
[23:42] <ricksebak> popey: ahh, perfect, I didn't know that it would start logging there so early in the boot process. Thanks.
[23:43] <popey> ricksebak: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Serial_redirect ?
[23:43] <popey> ricksebak: looks like you can redirect tty0 to a file on the host
[23:43] <Deihmos> damn i was hoping for something like vent viewer
[23:43] <popey> Deihmos: sorry, lockups are tricky to debug, I'd certainly run memtest overnight as a first step
[23:44] <rijack> hi Im coming over from arch does ubuntu have an equivilent to the makepkg script
[23:44] <ricksebak> awesome. thanks!
[23:44] <popey> ricksebak: good luck
[23:44] <popey> rijack: kinda, we have tools for building packages, but it's a bit more complex than makepkg
[23:44] <popey> rijack: we have some "dumbed down" tools like checkinstall which can do a similar task though
[23:45] <Deihmos> memory is fine.
[23:45] <popey> rijack: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/using-checkinstall-build-packages-source is a good basic starter
[23:46] <popey> Deihmos: then you need to go through that guide really. does the crash get triggered a predictable times or in predictable ways?
[23:46] <popey> Deihmos: like, only when you use an opengl game, or only when you have chrome open?
[23:47] <rijack> nice thanks
[23:47] <ZackWolf_> hey all... i am really new to Ubuntu how ever have built a LTSP server.  We have a mix of RDP thin clients and PXE thin clients.  I'd prefer all PXE however some of them are old.  Question i have is how can I have a shared folder where all users have read/write access to all files and all new files going into that folder
[23:47] <alfonsojon> Is there a way to mount HFS+ as read-write?
[23:47] <alfonsojon> Preferably without disabling journaling, I would like to keep that enabled.
[23:52] <rijack> so it sounds like it is up to me to resolve dependencies and build, only after that then checkinstall rolls the package and checks sanity is this correct?
[23:52] <OerHeks> alfonsojon, no, you have to disable journaling https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[23:52] <popey> rijack: yes, thats a good summary
[23:52] <alfonsojon> OerHeks: Alright, but isn't that risky?
[23:52] <popey> rijack: are you packaging something brand new that doesn't already have a deb package in ubuntu or debian?
[23:53] <rijack> alright thanks
[23:53] <rijack> no i want to know that i could if i needed to
[23:53] <OerHeks> alfonsojon, jups i think so. not sure what OSx does when you have written to it.
[23:54] <popey> ok
[23:55] <bluetower> is live and could help me?
[23:55] <bluetower> ok who here is live and could help me
[23:55] <ang_> Hi all, I have an issue with my wifi, I am using an usb adapter and I keep losing connection. I moved the computer near the modem to be able to plug in and look for help in this chat, anyone has any idea of how to fix this?
[23:56] <popey> !ask | bluetower
[23:56] <bluetower> popey, last 3 times I've asked any question no one has responded
[23:56] <popey> ang_: i have seen that with a cheap usb adapter
[23:56] <popey> bluetower: ask now and lets see
[23:56] <bluetower> check the logs if you dont believe me
[23:56] <popey> bluetower: i dont doubt it ☻
[23:56] <davidadams> can someone help me sort out some file permissions issues? I'm trying to add read and write permissions to a group on a folder recursively. It ain't working: https://gist.github.com/dadamssg/741461d048b8bd61f729
[23:56] <ang_> popey, the adapter works fine on windows
[23:57] <popey> ang_: this is not uncommon, what make and model of adapter is it?
[23:57] <delinquentme> Is there a goos reason that all unzip options iwthin ubuntu aren't just $ unzip blah.extension ??
[23:57] <delinquentme> why do I need -xzvf for a un tar ... its just silly
[23:57] <rww> delinquentme: you don't. tar -xf works fine
[23:57] <bluetower> here is he deal. I have an ATI X1050 gpu, and just installed 14.04. I'm trying to get 3d acceleration working
[23:57] <popey> delinquentme: because the command can compress and uncompress, it dosn't know what you want to do until you tell it
[23:57] <bluetower> I had it working under debian and I dont know why I cant get it working under 14.04
[23:57] <rww> delinquentme: the x means extract, the f means take it from a file instead of standard input
[23:58] <delinquentme> rww,  +1
[23:58] <ObrienDave> bluetower, you asked if you should install glxgears, why ask us that?
[23:58] <rww> (it autodetects the compression format, and -v just means verbose output)
[23:58] <ang_> popey: Bolse® 300Mbps Wifi Wireless N USB Micro Mini Adapter - Win7 Mac 2.4G 802.11ngb 32-Bit and 64-Bit Compatible
[23:58] <popey> bluetower: sorry, I know nothing about ATI cards ☹
[23:58] <bluetower> fglx apears to be part of the ati video drivers stuff
[23:58] <daftykins> bluetower: confirm the driver that was used in each
[23:58] <daftykins> bluetower: it really is likely to be best off using the 'radeon' driver though, which should be what it's using now
[23:59] <OerHeks> bluetower, x1050 is no longer supported by the ati driver, it is very old
[23:59] <daftykins> ah pre 4xxx series then, so legacy
[23:59] <OerHeks> !ati
[23:59] <daftykins> translation: 'radeon' driver or game over, typically. (or run another distro with an older X)
[23:59] <popey> ang_: looks like a Realtek based wifi card?
[23:59] <bluetower> I know its old but it supports opengl 2.0 which is more then enough for almost anything I need