[00:00] <propman> fwiw on my new install of 12.04 it's laucher rather than classic
[00:00] <BarkingFish> lemme switch over and I'll help you
[00:00] <BarkingFish> propman, that's what I'm saying - on my first Kubuntu install, 11.04, it was the classic
[00:00] <asgard20032> Because its faster to go in computer tab, than in application->setting
[00:01] <BarkingFish> asgard20032, right - right click the muon icon, and select uninstall
[00:01] <asgard20032> Well, the icon remain
[00:01] <asgard20032> Just not installed
[00:02] <asgard20032> Ok, uninstalled
[00:02] <asgard20032> no more icon
[00:02] <asgard20032> How to put the apper icon ?
[00:03] <BarkingFish> ok, go to the Computer tab
[00:04] <BarkingFish> and in the top search bar, type Apper
[00:06] <asgard20032> well, searching it dont add it to computer tab
[00:06] <BarkingFish> one moment. I told you I wasn't used to this menu :)
[00:07] <BarkingFish> I'll see if the guys in #kde can help me :)
[00:07] <asgard20032> But i didnt asked on kde yet
[00:09] <BarkingFish> yep, well let's see if #kde can help :)
[00:09] <gabi_> hola a todos
[00:10] <gabi_> alguien habla español
[00:10] <BarkingFish> hola gabi_ :)
[00:10] <BarkingFish> !es | gabi_
[00:11] <gabi_> hola k tal
[00:12] <gabi_> "join#ubuntu-es
[00:12] <gabi_> es la 1 vez
[00:14] <BarkingFish> gabi_, sin "  :)
[00:14] <BarkingFish> escriba  /join #ubuntu-es
[00:15] <asgard20032> BarkingFish: I already saw some screenshot that had classic menu, but didnt know that it was called classic menu, and how to get it
[00:16] <BarkingFish> asgard20032, it's the only menu style I've ever used in KDE - and I've been using KDE since pre 3.X :)
[00:16] <gabi_> me estoy liando
[01:21] <Sentynel> anybody know if there's a decent ppa with qt 4.8.2 in for precise, before I go building it myself?
[01:48] <sentinel699> hi everyone
[01:48] <sentinel699> spent last 5 hours trying to make my dell xps l502x laptop to work with kubuntu as far as wifi goes but no luck
[01:48] <sentinel699> wifi works fine in windows
[01:49] <sentinel699> checked compatibility chart and it have l502x listed as working
[01:49] <sentinel699> even when i add usb wifi dongle (ralink), it still doesn't work
[01:50] <sentinel699> if anyone have some ideas i would appreciate it
[02:05] <coldfire> just try this command  " rfkill unblock wifi"
[04:17] <zed_> hi
[04:17] <zed_> I have installed kubuntu 12.04 onto my lapop
[04:17] <zed_> laptop
[04:17] <zed_> thunderbird fails to open html links with firefox
[04:18] <zed_> and I've been trying to solve this issue for quite a while now
[04:18] <zed_> any time I click a link in thunderbird, nothing happens .. ?
[05:53] <uberdub> well bye kubuntu
[05:53] <uberdub> had enough of the buggy crap
[05:54] <uberdub> dont know why I didnt just run debian years ago
[05:55] <uberdub> buncha fundementalist christian BULLSHIT
[06:59] <user> please i need to upgrade install rekonq to 1.0
[06:59] <user> do you know how_
[07:07] <anqxyr> Hi. Can someone help me?
[07:08] <anqxyr> I am unable to login to kubuntu using the GUI logic screen - after I enter the password the screen goes black and then the login prompt reappears again
[07:08] <anqxyr> I was able to login using command line login and starting x server manually, but now there is no sound
[09:26] <ragerock> 0hai
[09:27] <ragerock> I messed my Kubuntu desktop
[09:27] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, Hi
[09:27] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, How?
[09:27] <Peace-> ragerock: nice
[09:27] <ragerock> No toolbars at all
[09:27] <ragerock> on the left is a permanent start menu
[09:27] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, You mean your start menu?
[09:28] <ragerock> my start menu is permanently in the left of the screen rather than called with a button
[09:28] <ragerock> right of start are all minimized applications
[09:28] <DFrostedWang> You tried a restart yet?
[09:28] <ragerock> and right of that is the tray
[09:28] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: logout should be enough
[09:28] <Peace-> ragerock: screenshot please
[09:28] <DFrostedWang> yeah
[09:29] <DFrostedWang> Yeah, screenshot for us.
[09:29] <DFrostedWang> You can post on inky.ws
[09:29] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: there is a widget pastebin
[09:29] <ragerock> IDK how to do it in K
[09:29] <DFrostedWang> DFrostedWang, These is?
[09:29] <Peace-> ragerock: ALT PRINT
[09:29] <Peace-> ragerock: or ksnapshot
[09:29] <DFrostedWang> alt+prtscrn
[09:30] <Peace-> ragerock: or ALT F2  type ksnap wait press enter
[09:31] <ragerock> did alt+printscreen, what next?
[09:31] <Peace-> add the widget pastebin on the desktop
[09:31] <Peace-> and drag and drop the picture from ksnapshot into the widget
[09:33] <ragerock> saved fail.png
[09:34] <Peace-> you don0t even to save the picture
[09:34] <ragerock> where does ksn save by default?
[09:35] <ragerock> those widgets are all goo poo, I'd rather upload on my own
[09:35] <Peace-> ragerock: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/12/plasma-desktopYc2276.png
[09:35] <Peace-> ragerock: i said drag and drop into the widget
[09:35] <Peace-> from ksnapshot
[09:36] <DFrostedWang> How long should it take to compile Firefox from source?
[09:36] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: the life?
[09:36] <Peace-> depends from your cpu
[09:37] <DFrostedWang> Peace-, I have 2GHz processor (dual-core) and 2GB RAM and 2GB SWAP
[09:37] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: should not take so long
[09:37] <Peace-> but i have no idea about it could take
[09:37] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: btw you can alwasy download the latest firefox stuffer from the server already compiled
[09:38] <Peace-> who cares of firefox compiling ?
[09:38] <DFrostedWang> TBH, I am not compiling in Kubuntu, so this may be different. I just wanted a perspective.
[09:38] <DFrostedWang> I am running PCBSD and compiling in PortJail
[09:38] <Peace-> well this is not a chat to speak about bsd
[09:38] <Peace-> its called kubuntu
[09:38] <Peace-> infact :D
[09:38] <DFrostedWang> I know
[09:38] <DFrostedWang> Obviously
[09:39] <ragerock> now this paste widget is to bottom of my start menu
[09:39] <DFrostedWang> That's why I asked about Firefox :D
[09:39] <Peace-> ragerock: ok you are not so much fast on get the things i guess you can upload in some servers
[09:39] <Peace-> ragerock: google host image
[09:39] <Peace-> and put your picture there
[09:40] <ragerock> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/12/plasma-desktopqr7306.png
[09:40] <ragerock> done via drag-drop
[09:40] <Peace-> ragerock: good
[09:40] <ragerock> see what my desktop is? It's broken to hell
[09:41] <Peace-> ragerock: now , pidof plasma-netbook
[09:41] <Peace-> ragerock: type that on konsole
[09:41] <ragerock> well, this is a live session
[09:41] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, Looks funny lol
[09:41] <Peace-> ragerock: btw it's not broken
[09:42] <Peace-> ragerock: its seems or the netbook version
[09:42] <Peace-> or the another kind of activity
[09:42] <ragerock> it's Kubuntu "extended dvd" just booted into live
[09:42] <ragerock> and I somehow messed it
[09:43] <Peace-> ragerock: i guess you messed it
[09:43] <DFrostedWang> ragerock, You do realize that if it's Live, a reboot can fix that, right?
[09:43] <Peace-> ragerock: go in ~/.kde
[09:43] <Peace-> ragerock: rename that folder
[09:43] <Peace-> logout and login
[09:44] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: asd
[09:44] <DFrostedWang> "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.backup"
[09:44] <DFrostedWang> Then backup
[09:44] <DFrostedWang> Then logout
[09:44] <DFrostedWang> I mean
[09:45] <ragerock> Just a lone pastebin in the middle.  Task manager on bottom, tray on top, start menu in the middle of the screen
[09:57] <DFrostedWang> WTF have you done to it now?
[10:11] <Peace-> DFrostedWang: trolling ?
[10:11] <DFrostedWang> Peace-, what makes you say that?
[10:11] <Peace-> i guess him is trolling
[11:47] <sashok> hello
[11:48] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning sashok
[11:52] <DFrostedWang> Managed to get Firefox compiled :D
[11:53] <sashok> есть кто с украины?
[11:53] <bazhang> !ru | sashok
[11:53] <DFrostedWang> ???? ??? ? ????????
[11:53] <DFrostedWang> Why can't I see any of that?
[11:53] <DFrostedWang> It just haz little square boxes
[11:53] <DFrostedWang> Usually I can see russian
[11:54] <bazhang> which client DFrostedWang
[11:54] <DFrostedWang> XChat
[11:54] <DFrostedWang> I just compiled it myself, tho. Maybe I left a flag off
[11:54] <bazhang> install the appropriate language packs then
[11:54] <skfin> I'm using irssi, UTF-8 as default with transliteration enabled and I can see it
[11:55] <skfin> DFrostedWang: Are you sure that your font has those letters?
[11:55] <DFrostedWang> IDK
[11:55] <bazhang> DFrostedWang, there is zero reason to compile xchat or firefox in Kubuntu
[11:55] <DFrostedWang> I am using PCBSD, running in PortJail.
[11:55] <DFrostedWang> But it should be the same
[11:56] <bazhang> DFrostedWang, and the connection to Kubuntu support is what?
[11:56] <DFrostedWang> Somebody here said something in Russian and I couldn't read it.
[11:57] <bazhang> DFrostedWang, this is Kubuntu support. try one of the chat channels for chit chat
[11:57] <DFrostedWang> I am in several chat channels.
[11:57] <DFrostedWang> I don't want chit chat
[11:57] <IdleOne> DFrostedWang: http://xchat.org/encoding/ set it to UTF-8
[11:57] <DFrostedWang> IdleOne, Thanx
[11:58] <IdleOne> DFrostedWang: also #xchat for xchat specific questions please
[12:04] <Walzmyn> I've got 2 monitors (AMD vid card). At boot up, it puts the log-in dialog on the wrong monitor. Where do I need to go to fix that, the driver or kdm?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:23] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning BluesKaj
[12:29] <BluesKaj> 'Morning mydogsnameisrudy
[13:01] <alexzz> hi
[13:33] <phil__> evening
[14:49] <dougl> what do you suppose I need to do to correct this problem with my printing config? http://imagebin.org/224201
[16:10] <einseenai> hello, guys, is it possible to set different wallpapers for each desktop in KDE?
[16:10] <DFrostedWang> Yes.
[16:11] <DFrostedWang> Or at least, it should be.
[16:11] <DFrostedWang> It is in Gnome and Enlightenment and LXDE, etc.
[16:12] <einseenai> lol, never seen it in gnome.
[17:52] <fabrizio> what a nerd channel is this??
[18:16] <mishkin> Dear all, I would like to ask if there is anyway to add hard disk as RAM, I have a pretty old laptop and I would like to use virtualbox for some virtualization and I need just 256MB
[18:17] <shadeslayer> mishkin: swap
[18:17] <shadeslayer> !swap
[18:19] <shadeslayer> mishkin: on another note, KDE doesn't take alot of memory, I've run KDE on a 256 MB system where KDE took about a 100 megs
[18:19] <shadeslayer> ofcourse, I had to disable nepomuk and akonadi
[18:19] <mishkin> shadeslayer and ubottu thanks I will take a look but conceptually I don't get it at all, I mean does virtualbox realize that swap was increased and it looks like mor RAM?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> oh wait, you said virtualbox, I should read more carefully
[18:20] <Tm_T> mishkin: general warning: swap is used for non-active parts of data stored on RAM, in order to be able to use it, it has to be on RAM
[18:20] <Tm_T> ...and hard disk is waaaay slower than RAM, thus making even more painful to use swap
[18:20] <shadeslayer> ^
[18:20] <shadeslayer> unless you have a SSD
[18:20] <Tm_T> it's still waaay slower and makes things painful
[18:21] <Walzmyn> mishkin: why are you trying to run VB on an old laptop?
[18:21] <shadeslayer> sure, but swap on a SSD >>> swap on a HDD
[18:21] <mishkin> Tm_T: Yeah sure it does I mean I can imagine, just remembering long time ago I did something for fake RAM in order to use and Oracle eXi but I can not remember now
[18:21] <Walzmyn> swap on an SSD will kill the lifespan of an SSD
[18:21] <shadeslayer> true that
[18:23] <mishkin> Anyway I will take a look to swap docs .. shit I was googling arround and I can nor rembmer or find out the way I did few years ago
[18:24] <mishkin> Walzmyn: Is just for some testings but I deinetly I  need more RAM
[18:24] <Walzmyn> VB takes a lot of resources
[18:25] <mishkin> sorry I wanted to day definitely
[18:25] <mishkin> Walzmyn: what do you suggest instead? Kvm ?
[18:30] <Walzmyn> you said old laptop, is this your primary machine?
[18:30] <mishkin> Walzmyn: Yes it is...
[18:31] <Walzmyn> mishkin: OK. Just when ya said it was an old one, I was thinking you also had a newer machine. I was going to say just use the old lappy native for your tests
[19:11] <uglyoldbob> im having a problem, mythtv-backend wont automatically startup
[19:11] <uglyoldbob> what things should i check for?
[19:13] <uglyoldbob> oh wait, dmesg says mythtv-backedn respawning too fast
[19:45] <davide97> salve!
[19:45] <davide97> !list
[19:59] <mah454> Hello
[19:59] <mah454> I upgrade KDE to 4.9 with repository linked in Kubuntu.org
[20:00] <mah454> after upgrade kwin crashed ... !
[20:00] <mah454> How can debug this ?
[20:37] <diniwed1> Is there such a thing as an expert install..?
[20:38] <dougl> diniwed1, what do you mean?
[20:44] <diniwed1> dougl: debian-derived systems usually provide an expert mode (often non-graphical) where you can tweak just about anything. I did not find one when I installed kubuntu 12.04
[20:45] <dougl> diniwed1, I found I could tweak mine intalling from text mode - custom parts,mounts with and without formating
[20:45] <dougl> if that helps?
[20:46] <dougl> right down to individual package selection altho I did not look at it
[20:47] <diniwed1> dougl: odd.. must have missed it somehow..
[20:49] <dougl> is there forsure... did a install text yesterday
[20:50] <diniwed1> dougl: is it a 'hidden
[20:51] <diniwed1> ' option in the installer's main menu..?
[20:51] <dougl> was a grub boot option
[20:51] <dougl> I thot
[20:52] <dougl> gui does not work on my box until the nvidia drivers are installed
[20:52] <dougl> I have to kinda coax an install but is good when I am done
[20:55] <BluesKaj> well, PC-BSD is a total washout on my hardware ...installed it successfully after 3 tries , then it freezes during the load after login , nothing much has changed in 7 yrs :P
[20:56] <mydogsnameisrudy> heh frustrated yet?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> had a spare partition that I thought might be fun to fool around with BSD in ,but it still has a long way to go
[20:57] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya fun to try but takes to much of my time to do that
[20:57] <BluesKaj> it's one of those distros that likes to take over the whole disk
[20:58] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm kind of like windows i guess
[20:59] <BluesKaj> i have windows 7 working fine on a partition on this drive
[20:59] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya  i have it on this laptop why i dont know never use it , next time i install its gone i think
[21:00] <mydogsnameisrudy> 12.10 running good for you BluesKaj?
[21:02] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy, yeah just fine now ..had a few total freezes , but it sems fine the last 2 days
[21:04] <BluesKaj> wife was asking about netflix , so I might keep w7 for a while , maybe we'll subscribe this winter
[21:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya i cant use it with this dish
[21:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> way to slow
[21:04] <BluesKaj> right ...bummer
[21:05] <Nailyouh> HEAY GUYS
[21:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> i get 2 cd a week way more then i need
[21:05] <Nailyouh> uouh caps
[21:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> Nailyouh:  HIGH ;)
[21:05] <Nailyouh> :D high
[21:06] <Nailyouh> i likr ur dog i think
[21:06] <Nailyouh> with such a beautiful name
[21:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> he is a good dog
[21:06] <Nailyouh> :P
[21:06] <Nailyouh> i can imagine
[21:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> red bone coon hound
[21:06] <BluesKaj> dunno if if a lot of movies will really appeal to us tho ..seems geared towards younger ppl , there was alotta junk there when we tried the trial a while back
[21:07] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya i agree BluesKaj
[21:07] <Nailyouh> i use kubuntu on a netbook is it normal that it is sooo slooow?
[21:07] <Nailyouh> its damn slow :(
[21:07] <mydogsnameisrudy> everything is slow Nailyouh
[21:08] <Nailyouh> yea my brain 2 atm D:
[21:08] <Nailyouh> i hv to try xubuntu i think :P
[21:08] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmm no idea on a netbook   ,, sorry
[21:08] <Nailyouh> no ill try nso
[21:08] <Nailyouh> nao
[21:08] <Nailyouh> see you laater
[21:08] <Nailyouh> 8.
[21:09] <mydogsnameisrudy> oke
[21:09] <BluesKaj> I heard google was going to setup chrome/chromium to run netflix within it's browser so that most OSs would work with it , but I haven't heard anything for over a yr about that
[21:21] <BluesKaj> mydognameisrudy, are you going to try 12.10 anytime soon ?
[21:28] <linux> hi
[22:32] <pedahzur> glxinfo is telling me that direct rending is enabled (this is an nVidia card), but desktop effects is telling that it can't enable some effects because they "require OpenGL."  This is Kubuntu 12.04.  .xession_errors tells me, for example: kwin(2879) KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  "kwin4_effect_blur"  is not supported


[02:37] <StevenK> GrueMaster: It should be able to be dug up.
[07:27] <ALoGeNo> hi
[07:28] <persia> ALoGeNo: Hello.
[07:28] <ALoGeNo> hey
[09:41] <Celtiore> hi
[09:42] <Celtiore> i need help :p
[09:45] <Celtiore> ok ...
[09:45] <Celtiore> how can i compile : http://stz-softwaretechnik.com/~ke/touchscreen/evtouch.html version 0.87 with kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-lpia ?
[09:45] <Celtiore> i think it's the only way to calibrate the touchscreen for aigo mid
[11:29] <lool> apart of the fact the mouse doesn't work anymore or oddly, today's image brings up Xorg  \o/
[11:29] <lool> and it has categories
[11:31] <lool> and it has network and runs apt-get update without hanging
[11:32] <lool> It's just dead slow for some reason
[11:36] <lool> NM-applet doesn't come up all the time, but it doesn't crash for me
[12:14] <ogra> lool, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-evtouch/+bug/261873/comments/3 use that file in case you test on the Q1
[12:15] <ogra> for the mouse i think persia said he didnt see the psmouse module loaded, for a test you could dump it into /etc/modules
[12:50] <lool> ogra: No, it's in kvm
[12:50] <ogra> well, psmouse might help ...
[12:50] <lool> Dunno what changed that broke kvm support so much; I think it's just very slow
[12:50] <lool> ogra: psmouse?
[12:51] <ogra> yep
[12:51] <ogra> lsmod|grep psmouse
[12:51] <lool> ogra: Another module is providing mouse support
[12:52] <ogra> oh, riht, kvm has its own stuff like the vbox guest modules ... vbos falls back on ps2 emu though
[12:52] <ogra> *vbox
[12:54] <lool> ogra: You're running the dailies in vbox?
[12:54] <ogra> nope, no vbox atm
[12:54] <ogra> i didnt come around yet to fix the modules
[12:54] <lool> I wonder whether it will cause havoc if I use vbox with kvm installed and presumaly its modules loaded
[13:25] <ogra> i dont think they clash
[13:25] <ogra> but there are no vbox modules for 2.6.27-2 yet
[13:26] <ogra> i updated them to -1 exactly the same day BenC uploaded -2 :(
[14:11] <lool> ogra: Hey I think you forgot pushing your netbook-launcher-remix -> netbook-launcher rename in the packaging branch at ~netbook-remix-team/netbook-remix-launcher/ubuntu
[14:12] <ogra> oh, i wasnt aware we have a branch for that
[14:12] <ogra> will push that
[14:13] <lool> ogra: Please retag 1.1-0ubuntu1 when done
[14:13] <ogra> will do
[15:56] <kunisch> anyone here with experience with the gm945 chipset ?
[19:26] <venome> hi folks, has anyone of you tried running Moblin on a Geode platform (AMD)?
[19:27] <venome> (or do you think that it'll work without having to compile all the projects by myself?
[20:49] <rbelem> I ran ubuntu-mobile on geode
[20:53] <ian_brasil> hey rbelem
[20:53] <ian_brasil> is this still valid
[20:53] <ian_brasil> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UMEGuide/ApplicationDevelopment/AnatomyOfUMEPythonApplication
[20:54] <ian_brasil> the part about the Exec on the desktop files
[20:56] <rbelem> ian_brasil, i think main.py should be in your pythonpath
[21:01] <ian_brasil> so the part about applications living in /usr/share is no longer correct
[21:02] <ian_brasil> package your python app into /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/
[21:03] <ian_brasil> and in /usr/bin/<name_of_app> import the modules and call main
[21:03] <rbelem> ian_brasil, your setup.py will install into the best place
[21:04] <ian_brasil> and the desktop file like 1 [Desktop Entry]
[21:04] <ian_brasil> 2 Encoding=UTF-8
[21:04] <ian_brasil> 3 Name=ians_app
[21:04] <ian_brasil> 4 Comment=My App
[21:04] <ian_brasil> 5 Exec=ians_app
[21:06] <rbelem> ian_brasil, Categories, Type, Terminal, StartupNotify are missing
[21:07] <ian_brasil> right..this was just the top :)
[21:08] <rbelem> ian_brasil, more info at http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[21:14] <ian_brasil> thx
[21:23] <rbelem> ;-)
[23:05] <angel1603> Hey
[23:06] <angel1603> I have a have a couple of questions


[00:55] <m0nkey_> How Canadian is this.. Maple Syrup cola!
[00:57] <daftykins> D:
[00:57] <daftykins> how is it?
[00:57] <m0nkey_> Pretty good
[01:15] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2kd7F3YFz8
[01:43] <diddledan> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2vyhr6/apparently_terminator_runs_linux_version/
[01:47] <diddledan> daftykins: that deus ex video is very cinematic in quality
[01:48] <daftykins> sure is!
[01:48] <daftykins> hmm just found Human Revolution (the last game) for £2.71 on amazon UK
[05:43] <mappps> hmm
[05:43] <mappps> marvel daredevil any good?
[06:02] <knightwise> dont know
[06:03] <knightwise> we are watching ARROW over here
[06:05] <mappps> ah cool
[06:05] <mappps> what ep you on?
[06:07] <knightwise> a good chunk into season 3
[06:12] <mappps> cool ive seen it all so far
[06:12] <mappps> good series;D
[06:14] <knightwise> they do a crossover with 'flash'
[06:14] <knightwise> boy am i glad I dont watch that show
[06:16] <mapps> ah had to reset router
[06:16] <mapps> knightwise watch any other shows
[06:19] <knightwise> currently watching Sherlock
[06:19] <knightwise> i mean Elementary
[06:19] <knightwise> thats not bad eiter
[06:19] <knightwise> and thats about it , we dont watch a lot of tv
[06:19] <knightwise> I love my webshows :) stuff yo can find on youtube like star trek fanmade stuff and that
[06:20] <mapps> ahh ok cool...i watch elementary too:) but about 20 other shows too;)
[06:22] <knightwise> i think we watch about 2 hours of tv a day an hardly any in the weekend
[06:22] <knightwise> we ditched our cable connection a couple of months ago
[06:24] <knightwise> i'm off :) going to powerwash the deck outside
[06:26] <mapps> bit early isnt it??
[09:34] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:36] <zmoylan-pi> morning *
[09:37] <brobostigon> morning zmoylan-pi
[11:23] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:40] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[11:41] <zmoylan-pi> the tv show, i've seen a lot of folk rave about it
[11:41] <zmoylan-pi> whoops, responding to commend from 0643 :-)
[11:41] <shauno> I was gonna see, I've heard of this teevee stuff, seems kinda popular :p
[11:42] <zmoylan-pi> it'll never catch on, it'll never have the great images that radio creates
[12:32] <MooDoo> morning all
[12:32] <MooDoo> blimey it's afternoon lol
[12:34]  * zmoylan-pi waits for lift to ad&d...
[12:35] <zmoylan-pi> gor the orc will smite the buggery out of the bad guys.  and probably be the brains of the outfit...
[13:36] <StevenR> oh. wow. apt-get update doesn't work.
[13:36]  * StevenR waits for the screenshot to appear in his mailbox
[13:37] <StevenR> (Dad's PC has had something bad happen to it, so much so that /boot is empty and other stuff is badly wrong)
[13:44] <moreati> StevenR: At that point I wouldn't bother to try and repair it. Just boot from usb or a cd, copy all your dad's data off and then reinstall.
[13:45] <StevenR> moreati: it's several hundred miles away
[13:45] <StevenR> finding all the data remotely is going to be challenging
[13:45] <moreati> ah, i'll shutup then
[13:46] <StevenR> fortunately the /home array isn't on the same disks as the OS
[13:46] <MooDoo> phew
[14:54] <MooDoo> hows everyone today?
[15:01] <popey> great
[15:01] <popey> new cat flap installed
[15:02] <StevenR> YES! It lives. Sortof. It now kernel panics on something instead of barfing at the grub stage.
[15:02] <popey> \o/
[15:02] <popey> Progress!
[15:02] <StevenR> yup
[15:02]  * StevenR waits for the screenshot
[15:14] <bigcalm> popey: using RFID chip in cats' necks?
[15:14] <popey> nope
[15:14] <bigcalm> Oh well, they are cool
[15:24] <bigcalm> popey: how far did you get in GTA IV? I kind of stopped after a couple of jobs with Jacob
[16:01] <StevenR> right. /etc/shadow appears to be hosed
[16:15] <StevenR> hrrm. Cannot login as a normal user... login just fails. Can't run passwd user from rescue system, says permission denied.
[17:06] <StevenR> hurrah. Reinstalled the pam packages and got a working system back
[17:07] <StevenR> now we see what else is corrupt
[17:08] <directhex> StevenR: protip: debsums
[18:43] <Azelphur> Hey folks, what versions of the chromebook are nice and let you install Ubuntu on them?
[18:44] <Azelphur> Or to bake the question down to its lowest common denominator: recommend me a laptop with insane battery life
[18:49] <Azelphur> bonus points for USB charging too
[18:52] <penguin42> I've seen it done on one of the earlier Samsung chromebooks (A15 ARMs)
[18:54] <Azelphur> yea, I want intel anyway
[19:06] <ali1234> http://www.scan.co.uk/products/101-asus-tf103c-1a031a-eeepad-intel-baytrail-t-z3745-quad-core-133ghz-1gb-1066mhz-16gb-android-44-bl
[19:07] <Azelphur> ali1234, interesting, you can get ubuntu on that?
[19:08] <ali1234> i dont see why not
[19:08] <ali1234> most of the range runs windows
[19:08] <Azelphur> ali1234, yea I wouldn't buy it unless someone had actually done it
[19:09] <penguin42> Azelphur: I know there's one of the Fedora guys who does it to the Dell intel tablets
[19:10] <Azelphur> I see
[19:10] <Azelphur> ali1234, in fact, google says no for Ubuntu on that, no BIOS only droidboot
[19:11] <ali1234> buy one that has windows then
[19:12] <ali1234> i kind of want to buy a pitop
[19:13] <penguin42> Azelphur: https://www.happyassassin.net/fedlet-a-fedora-remix-for-bay-trail-tablets/
[19:14] <Azelphur> penguin42, I'd prefer Xubuntu, I'd also prefer something that's a bit more laptop/PC like hardware wise so I have no issues
[19:14] <ali1234> i also kind of want to buy a point and shoot camera that has wifi and runs android
[19:14] <Azelphur> I want something more like a laptop where I can just install any OS and it should be fine, than say an Android tablet where that isn't going to happen
[19:59] <popey> Azelphur: in general android intel tablets are not easy to install linux on
[19:59] <popey> Azelphur: ironically the windows ones generally are
[20:00] <Azelphur> popey, yea I can see why, ideally I'm trying to find something intel based with boatloads of battery life
[20:01] <Azelphur> the goal being for it to be used on a plane
[20:01] <Azelphur> USB charging is a mega plus
[20:01] <popey> what would you be doing with it on the plane?
[20:01] <Azelphur> watching movies, playing some ultra-light games (FTL?) and IRCing if they have WiFi
[20:02] <Azelphur> maybe some old emulators too for retro games
[20:07] <Azelphur> popey, any recommendations? :)
[20:07] <popey> yeah, a tablet
[20:09] <Azelphur> thanks captain vague :P
[20:09] <popey> Well, last time I flew anywhere was 10 hours and I took my hudle2
[20:09] <popey> -e
[20:09] <popey> worked a treat for me
[20:10] <popey> and it's still the primary tablet I use, and it's what, 6 months old now?
[20:10] <Azelphur> yea, I took my nexus 7 and it was alright, plugged it into a hdd with usb otg and had a bunch of movies
[20:10] <Azelphur> but really want a full OS + keyboard myself
[20:10] <popey> oh, only 4 months
[20:10] <popey> just for a flight?
[20:10] <Azelphur> yep
[20:10] <Azelphur> because WiFi flights \o
[20:11] <penguin42> Azelphur: I'm not sure it's any harder to get it onto the Intel tablets than it is on the chromebooks
[20:11] <penguin42> Azelphur: Assuming you choose the right one
[20:11] <Azelphur> penguin42, if you get a windows one it's probably ok, as long as it's intel
[20:11] <popey> yeah, it is tricky on most
[20:11] <popey> (most android ones)
[20:11] <Azelphur> popey, I am so tempted by the hudl now though, they have them on sale refurb for like £76 and I have £25ish of clubcard credit
[20:11] <Azelphur> works out I could get one for like <£20
[20:11] <popey> bargain
[20:11] <Azelphur> indeed
[20:12] <Azelphur> crazy bargain, problem is I barely use my n7, so I feel like I'd just be buying it because its cheap
[20:14] <penguin42> actually, to be fair the chromebooks might be easier; certainly the older ones Google made it very easy to do


[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[14:42] <fale_> I've found a package (pdfsam) that is way out of date. I've managed to update it. How can I push it into the main repos?


[06:54] <astraljava> ScottL: I'm gonna be pretty busy for the next couple of days, can you post to the mailing lists about this bug and the testing need? Both archs built successfully now.
[12:25] <ScottL> astraljava, absolutely
[12:25] <ScottL> hi abogani :)
[12:27] <quadrispro> hello guys
[12:29] <abogani> ScottL, Hi! :)
[12:33] <ScottL> hi quadrispro
[12:34] <ScottL> hopefully this weekend i will get to updating the seeds to get all of the lv2 applications you have been packaging :)
[12:34] <quadrispro> ehy ScottL
[12:34] <quadrispro> great news :)
[12:34] <ScottL> quadrispro, thank you very much for all your packaging efforts and the coordination as well
[12:34] <quadrispro> ScottL, I'm working right now to fix all packages in uninstallable state
[12:35] <ScottL> oh, hey, quadrispro, was anyone working on guitarix ?
[12:35] <quadrispro> mmm
[12:35] <quadrispro> I don't remember now..
[12:36] <ScottL> no worries, i was just curious, it's something that a few people have asked about before
[12:36] <quadrispro> ScottL, ok, I've just uploaded jack-tools, all uninstallable packages listed in the last Colin's mail will be available soon
[12:37] <ScottL> quadrispro, oh, man, that is good news...what was causing it?
[12:37] <quadrispro> JACK2 transition
[12:38] <quadrispro> jack has entered in main, so many packages needed to rebuilld
[12:38] <ScottL> reading the debian multimedia email, i've feared this was not going to be a pleasant transition
[12:39] <ScottL> as i understand it (which doesn't make this correct), we are using jack1 libraries, but the executable binaries from jack2 ?
[12:40] <quadrispro> yep
[12:41] <quadrispro> ScottL, have to leave, see you later!
[12:45] <ScottL> bye
[12:45] <ScottL> abogani, how are you faring these days?
[12:46] <abogani> ScottL, Sorry?
[12:48] <falktx> hm, from my experience, it's better to have apps compiled with jack1 then jack2
[12:49] <falktx> running jack1 apps in jack2 is safe, but not the other way
[12:49] <falktx> jack2 has many new functions
[12:49] <falktx> jack1 apps may complaining about missing symbols...
[12:50] <ScottL> abogani, i was wonder how you are doing?
[12:50] <ScottL> falktx, hmm, that may explain their decision then :)  good to know
[12:51] <falktx> i had some issues with 32libs too
[12:51] <falktx> since ia32-libs should need a jack update too
[12:52] <ScottL> that might be something TheMuso might want to know^^^
[12:52] <falktx> all the packages in my ppa are compiled against jack2, so if any official ubuntu fails, i should have a fix
[12:52] <falktx> one that will fail for sure is fmit
[12:53] <falktx> have to go now, bbl
[12:58] <abogani> ScottL, Waiting than UKT review -lowlatency and -realtime kernels.
[12:59] <ScottL> abogani, cool
[12:59] <ScottL> i wish i knew more about kernels
[12:59]  * ScottL is rounding the kids up and going to work


[00:59] <itnet7> Anyone up for a meeting? I didn't have a chance to send out meeting invites, but will plan to next time
[01:00] <itnet7> No one has had a chance to add any agenda items
[01:01] <n3gbz> Hi, Chris, any thoughts on UDS yet?
[01:02] <itnet7> n3gbz: are you back in Fla? or will you be during October?
[01:02] <n3gbz> Not sure!  In Penna (at a McDonalds right now) for a while longer
[01:02] <itnet7> I was looking at the prices of suites, they are about 3 times as much as I paid last year
[01:03] <itnet7> for some reason
[01:03] <itnet7> We are going to be swining your way to visit some family soon, heading up to NJ for a wedding
[01:04] <itnet7> s/swining/swinging/
[01:04] <n3gbz> I am way up North near Binghamton NY
[01:04] <itnet7> Oh... Wow!!
[01:04] <n3gbz> When is the wedding?
[01:04] <itnet7> I beleive it's the 31st
[01:06] <pak33m> hey all
[01:06] <itnet7> Hey there pak33m !
[01:06] <pak33m> count me in for uds
[01:06] <pak33m> :)
[01:06] <pak33m> this time, i stay for the long hall
[01:07] <itnet7> coolbeans!
[01:07] <n3gbz> Hi, pak33m, I have some friends from Tennessee in Orlando for the first time - they ate at Bubba Gumps
[01:07] <n3gbz> last night
[01:07] <pak33m> yeah but have they seen the moie
[01:07] <pak33m> movie
[01:07] <pak33m> haha
[01:08] <pak33m> makes me hungry
[01:08] <n3gbz> think they are going to Ghirardelli's tonight
[01:08] <itnet7> We had fun at Bubba Gumps, pak33m remember jussi's b-day?
[01:08] <pak33m> are you having a meeting? i was trying to put kidos to bed and check it out
[01:08] <pak33m> omg, that was a scream
[01:09] <itnet7> pak33m: I think we may hold off this week
[01:09] <pak33m> brb, gg read at least one chapter
[01:09] <itnet7> I will send out invites and change the topic to reflect the next one
[01:10] <pak33m> let's make it f2f this weeknd at stardust
[01:10] <pak33m> hehe
[01:10] <n3gbz> Chris, are dates for uds firm?
[01:10] <itnet7> n3gbz: Yes.... October 24-28 I believe
[01:10] <itnet7> pak33m: I am going out of town Satuday afternoon, unforunately
[01:11] <n3gbz> Chris, now the website has October 31 to November 4
[01:11] <itnet7> Oh... really?
[01:11] <itnet7> brb
[01:12] <itnet7> Whoa, I guess they moved it back a week
[01:12] <itnet7> The Caribe Royal, Orlando, Florida, USA, 31 October – 4 November, 2011
[01:15] <itnet7> Wow, this year we'll have to absolutely bring costumes ;-)
[01:19] <n3gbz> it was changed a few days ago from the earlier dates
[01:25] <itnet7> I have been kind of out of the loop, work has been kind of crazy lately
[01:28] <n3gbz> still same place as last year?
[01:29] <itnet7> Yes
[01:30] <itnet7> http://uds.ubuntu.com/ for all the registration links, etc.
[01:31] <pak33m> i still have to see how much time i can take off
[01:31] <pak33m> still a fair amount of time away anyway
[01:32] <itnet7> pak33m: you had already heard that the dates changed?
[01:52] <n3gbz> take care all; battery going dead
[11:49] <maxolasersquad> Just noticed there's a picture of mhall119 on the UDS website.
[11:53] <mhall119> cjohnston is in that one too
[11:59] <maxolasersquad> Cool!
[11:59] <maxolasersquad> Anyone in the UDS-Orlando grup photo is too, but much smaller.
[19:21]  * cjohnston would like to be the first to welcome our newest team member, jcastro ....
[19:21] <jcastro> hi!
[19:21] <cjohnston> crashsystems: dantalizing itnet7 jamalta pak33m mhall119 MichelleQ maxolasersquad RoAkSoAx ^^
[19:22] <MichelleQ> hi jcastro!
[19:22] <maxolasersquad> cjohnston: Howdy!
[19:22] <cjohnston> maxolasersquad: jc<tab> not cj<tab> ;-)
[19:23] <mhall119> oh man, we're just letting anybody in now aren't we
[19:23] <cjohnston> ouch
[19:23] <cjohnston> he deserves it mhall119
[19:24]  * MichelleQ sends jcastro welcome cookies.
[19:25]  * maxolasersquad send jcastro welcome sweet tea.
[19:25] <cjohnston> sweet tea!
[19:26] <MichelleQ> Please surrender the requisite tooth.
[19:26] <jcastro> heh
[19:26] <cjohnston> and start saying I are one
[19:26] <mhall119> and y'all
[19:27] <MichelleQ> also, repeat after me - it's pronounced y'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaall
[19:27] <mhall119> although he's practically gonna be in Miami
[19:27] <MichelleQ> hola y'all?
[19:27] <cjohnston> lol
[19:28] <cjohnston> with a name like castro, i think he is too far north in boca
[19:28] <jimmah> me here
[19:28] <mhall119> not far enough, to be safe
[19:28] <mhall119> jimmah!
[19:28] <jimmah> yay jcastro
[19:28] <MichelleQ> Glad to see we're all in rare form today.
[19:28] <MichelleQ> jimmah!
[19:29] <cjohnston> jimmah!
[19:29]  * jimmah is really pak33m in disguise...with glasses
[19:29] <MichelleQ> hipster
[19:29] <mhall119> he'd tell you his real nick, but you've probably never heard of it
[19:29] <jimmah> we are family
[19:29] <cjohnston> jimmah: thats alabama
[19:29] <cjohnston> :-/
[19:29] <jimmah> maybe dj pak33m is better
[19:30]  * MichelleQ sings "We are Siamese if you please"
[19:30] <MichelleQ> for some reason.
[19:30] <mhall119> ...
[19:30] <cjohnston> what if you dont please
[19:30] <mhall119> jcastro: MichelleQ here is my wife, in case you weren't aware
[19:30] <jcastro> oh awesome, hi!
[19:30] <MichelleQ> :-D
[19:31] <jcastro> I think I follow  you on G+
[19:31] <MichelleQ> Howdy!
[19:31] <cjohnston> and the team mom
[19:31] <jimmah> and cjohnston is my wife
[19:31] <jimmah> ;)
[19:31] <MichelleQ> Yeah, I think so
[19:31] <jimmah> welcome
[19:31] <cjohnston> but your my b
[19:31] <mhall119> jimmah: civil union other, please
[19:31] <jimmah> oh yeah, sorry
[19:31] <MichelleQ> snert
[19:31] <mhall119> we don't condone DJ's marrying Firemen in Florida
[19:31] <cjohnston> hey... here in the OC we will be able to share benifits
[19:31] <mhall119> though...that'd probably sell well as a calendar
[19:31] <MichelleQ> I'd buy one
[19:32] <mhall119> ...
[19:32] <MichelleQ> ...just sayin'

[19:32]  * MichelleQ wanders off now.
[19:32] <cjohnston> I bet jcastro is rethinking his move
[19:33] <mhall119> heh
[19:33] <MichelleQ> At least he's in Boca
[19:35] <jimmah> yeah, thinking we scared him already
[19:35] <MichelleQ> shall I go back to cookies?
[19:35] <jimmah> you should take it to red velvet cake level
[19:36] <cjohnston> I want cookies
[19:36] <MichelleQ> jimmah: can totally do red velvet
[19:36] <MichelleQ> also, coca-cola cake
[19:36] <jimmah> me, too :)
[19:36] <jimmah> nom nom nom
[19:36] <jimmah> MichelleQ: how about that blueberry lemonade
[19:37] <jimmah> fozen-like
[19:37] <MichelleQ> also can do.  currently have ton of blueberries
[19:37] <jimmah> are we planning another veggie bbq at your place?!
[19:38] <MichelleQ> we totally want to do something team-wide in the fall
[19:38] <cjohnston> jimmah: i think its 9/1/11 you need to come to our global jam
[19:38] <jimmah> I'm sure I can do that
[19:38] <mhall119> jimmah: is pork a vegetable?
[19:38] <MichelleQ> we're eyeballing sometime in November
[19:38] <MichelleQ> maybe?
[19:39] <jimmah> mhall119: only if it's spelled tofurkey
[19:39] <MichelleQ> There's some in the freezer
[19:39] <cjohnston> we can spell it whatever you want
[19:39] <MichelleQ> cjohnston: rofl
[19:39] <mhall119> look, a pig's body is composed entirely of stuff it eats.  Pigs eat vegetable.  Therefore, pigs are made of vegetables.
[19:40] <cjohnston> im a vegetarian by proxy
[19:40] <jimmah> I plan to show my face a lot more. no really, this time I mean it. I've had enough misery, time to get out there and live :)
[19:40] <mhall119> it's like vegetable concentrate
[19:40] <MichelleQ> Good for you.  We miss your face.
[19:40] <MichelleQ> mhall119: V8?
[19:41] <mhall119> yes, Pork is exactly like V8
[19:41] <mhall119> only it tastes good
[19:41] <MichelleQ> I think I just heard jimmah's head asplode.
[19:41] <cjohnston> hehehe
[19:41] <mhall119> no, that was his stomach rumbling for some pork
[19:41] <jimmah> tehe
[19:41] <jimmah> and tofurkey came out
[19:41] <MichelleQ> aah, it's like good old times 'round here.
[19:42] <MichelleQ> now, we just need a wizard.
[19:42] <mhall119> jimmah: are going to be able to take time to attend UDS in November?
[19:42] <cjohnston> he'd better
[19:42] <mhall119> yeah, where is roadmap?
[19:42] <jimmah> oh yeah, you know it
[19:42] <MichelleQ> mapping a road elsewhere?
[19:42] <MichelleQ> dunno... he hasn't been round these parts in a whiel
[19:42] <MichelleQ> while, even
[19:50] <MichelleQ> everyone, consult your calendars.  When would be good for some Hall-house Shindig?  Looking at early-mid Novemberish.  itnet7, jimmah, cjohnston, dantalizing, all you folks.  When might work best?
[19:51] <MichelleQ> bring yo wives.  bring yo children.
[19:51] <mhall119> we're feeding *everyone* up in here
[19:51] <MichelleQ> also, there will be drunken merry-go-rounding
[19:52] <tiemonster> what? where's the pork?
[19:52] <MichelleQ> our house
[19:52] <tiemonster> when?
[19:52] <MichelleQ> that's what we're trying to determine
[19:53] <tiemonster> I should totally nick highlight the word "pork"
[19:53] <MichelleQ> rofl
[19:53] <MichelleQ> if you all ask nicely, I'll fry fish, too
[19:53] <tiemonster> :-)
[19:53] <tiemonster> shoot an e-mail to the meetup group when you set a date, and maybe we might be able to make it down
[19:53] <jimmah> I would be game MichelleQ
[19:53] <tiemonster> that would be fun
[19:53] <MichelleQ> We're looking at November
[19:54] <tiemonster> As long as it's not the 5-6 :-)
[19:54] <MichelleQ> Trying to decide if it would be wiser to do something the weekend after UDS (which would be the 5th-6th) for all the travellers.
[19:54] <tiemonster> crap
[19:55] <MichelleQ> or push off a week, for the 12th, and run the risk of folks who'd been here for UDS not being able to return for the team shindig
[19:55] <tiemonster> right
[19:55] <tiemonster> makes sense to do it after UDS
[19:55] <MichelleQ> jcastro: will you be up for UDS?
[19:56] <MichelleQ> where's Alan?
[19:56] <MichelleQ> hhrm.  itnet7: I know we postponed the team meeting - have we rescheduled a date?
[19:58] <MichelleQ> at anyrate, I'll put together a meetup and send an announcement when we get a date.
[20:01] <DammitJim> MichelleQ, !
[20:04] <MichelleQ> DammitJim: Dude!
[20:04] <DammitJim> what's going on?
[20:04] <MichelleQ> How are the bebes?
[20:04] <MichelleQ> we're gonna have a shindig sometime in November.
[20:04] <MichelleQ> Consult your calendar
[20:05] <DammitJim> what's a shindig? LOL
[20:05] <DammitJim> bebes are great! just turned 1
[20:05] <MichelleQ> everyone, here.  Food.  drunken merry-go-rounding.
[20:05] <MichelleQ> gosh, they're 1 already?!  OMG.
[20:05] <DammitJim> whoa, sweet!
[20:05] <DammitJim> kids doing well?
[20:06] <DammitJim> no more episodes?
[20:06] <MichelleQ> health wise, Q is so-so, but we're puttering along.
[20:06] <MichelleQ> He'll be in second grade next month, A will be in 1st.
[20:07] <tiemonster> MichelleQ: just saw the November 5-6 is free for now \o/
[20:07] <DammitJim> that's it!
[20:07] <MichelleQ> yay!
[20:08] <MichelleQ> Let's plan for Nov. 5, everyone.
[20:08] <MichelleQ> :-)
[20:09] <DammitJim> sounds like fun!
[20:09] <DammitJim> any more camping trips?
[20:09] <MichelleQ> not of late.  Hopefully in the fall.
[20:09] <MichelleQ> it's too hot at the moment.
[20:09] <tiemonster> +1
[20:09] <tiemonster> so hot
[20:09] <DammitJim> when was the last time you took it out? the keys?
[20:10] <tiemonster> we bought a kiddie pool so the baby doesn't shrivel up to nothing
[20:10] <jimmah> MichelleQ: nov works for me and I will have the wee girls in tow
[20:10] <jimmah> nov 5th that is
[20:10] <MichelleQ> jimmah: perfect. :-)
[20:11] <MichelleQ> DammitJim: yeah, the last trip out was the keys
[20:11] <DammitJim> I loved your blog LOL
[20:11] <MichelleQ> rofl, I need to pick back up on that.
[20:11] <DammitJim> I just put a hitch on our van last night
[20:11] <MichelleQ> nice!
[20:11] <DammitJim> starting to look for campers ;)
[20:11] <DammitJim> you should, it was very entertaining
[20:12] <MichelleQ> DammitJim: You looking pop-up?
[20:13] <DammitJim> yeah... probably a Jayco 1207
[20:13] <MichelleQ> nice
[20:13] <DammitJim> it's got to be under 2200 lbs dry weight
[20:13] <jimmah> MichelleQ: you want me to bring dj pak33m too?
[20:13] <DammitJim> what is yours?
[20:13] <MichelleQ> jimmah: awesome.
[20:13] <DammitJim> jimmah ? pak33m ?
[20:13] <MichelleQ> DammitJim: ours is a jayco from 1991.  Don't remember the model number.  Somewhere around 2000dry
[20:14] <pak33m> we're all the same
[20:14] <DammitJim> lol @ pak33m
[20:14] <pak33m> hey DammitJim
[20:14] <DammitJim> yeah
[20:14] <DammitJim> I was looking at a 1996/1998... the ones older than 1994 seem to be in pretty bad shape :(
[20:14] <MichelleQ> DammitJim: we're actually hoping to upgrade to a hard-sided trailer sometime in the next year
[20:14] <MichelleQ> yeah, we got lucky.  Our '91 was very well maintained
[20:14] <DammitJim> MichelleQ, I'm actually looking at a hybrid because the Odyssey can't tow a lot
[20:15] <MichelleQ> understandable
[20:15] <DammitJim> what do you think the next best brand is after Jayco?
[20:15] <MichelleQ> honestly, have no idea
[20:15] <DammitJim> the crank thing is what has gotten to me... I don't want to deal with the other systems
[20:15] <MichelleQ> I'd stay with one of the major brands, just for maintainence ease.
[20:15] <DammitJim> why did you go Jayco and who did you buy it from?
[20:16] <MichelleQ> Because it was for sale, and private sale off Craigslist
[20:16] <MichelleQ> and the price was very right
[20:16] <DammitJim> :D
[20:16] <MichelleQ> it really just sorta fell into our laps
[20:16] <DammitJim> I just have to add all the extra expenses to the van... cooler, wiring harness, etc
[20:16] <DammitJim> oh really? you weren't like actively looking?
[20:16] <DammitJim> pak33m, what's up, dude?
[20:16] <DammitJim> lunch sometime?
[20:17] <MichelleQ> we were, and we werent.  I put a wanted ad on craigslist... and it sat for the better part of a couple of months before someone responded.
[20:17] <jimmah> DammitJim: showing my face around here that's all
[20:18] <DammitJim> lol
[20:18] <DammitJim> interesting
[20:18] <DammitJim> what time of the year did you buy? I hear right now is not really camping season
[20:20] <MichelleQ> we bought ours in...  April? last year.  I think.  I don't remember.  Camping kinda sucks at the moment, just because 1) it's hot as balls, and 2) the mosquitos will physically carry off dogs and small children.
[20:21] <DammitJim> LOL @ hot as balls..
[20:21] <DammitJim> I should post something on craigslist
[20:23] <MichelleQ> it worked for us.
[20:23] <DammitJim> I just posted something
[20:24] <MichelleQ> I was very specific, posted exactly what we wanted and how much we were willing to pay, and then just waited.
[20:25] <DammitJim> I didn't know craigslist now requires you to put your phone number for posting a wanted add
[20:25] <MichelleQ> really?
[20:25] <MichelleQ> How odd.
[20:25] <DammitJim> weird
[20:25] <MichelleQ> AHem - http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1084/detail/
[20:26] <MichelleQ> Maybe could someone throw that link up on the topic when someone gets a chance?
[20:28] <cjohnston> MichelleQ: you know thats the day after uds right?
[20:28] <MichelleQ> Yes
[20:28] <cjohnston> ok
[20:28] <cjohnston> just double checking
[20:28] <MichelleQ> for de travelers
[20:29] <DammitJim> where is uds at this year?
[20:29] <MichelleQ> Orlando again
[20:29] <cjohnston> some city called orlando
[20:29] <cjohnston> not really sure where it is
[20:29] <DammitJim> yikrd
[20:29] <MichelleQ> Some strange and foreign land
[20:29] <MichelleQ> DammitJim: that some weird acronym I'm not familiar with?
[20:30] <DammitJim> yikes*
[20:30] <MichelleQ> was gonna google it
[20:35] <MichelleQ> cjohnston: wanted to make sure those of us who might be traveling for uds didn't feel obligated to turn around and come *back* a week or two later.
[20:35] <MichelleQ> so... one big partay.
[20:35] <cjohnston> cool
[20:36] <cjohnston> wait.. thats more traveling for me
[20:36] <MichelleQ> erm.
[20:37] <MichelleQ> I know I'm not a math whiz, but it's better than, oh say, the guys from Miami coming up twice.
[20:37] <MichelleQ> KWIM?
[21:23] <itnet7> MichelleQ: I think we need to try and re-establish the 1st and 3rd Tuesday nights @ 9 p.m. with mailing the list the latest link for the LD Team meeting event (so they can add any additional agenda items).
[21:23] <itnet7> Those appointments seemed to have helped in the past,
[21:24] <itnet7> MichelleQ: I don't think we'll see the wizard join us... Perhaps for the event :-)
[21:25] <MichelleQ> itnet7: I agree with the established meeting.
[21:26] <itnet7> Sweet!
[21:29] <MichelleQ> it'd be good to get us all back at least quasi-active again.
[21:29] <MichelleQ> I miss your faces.
[21:30] <MichelleQ> all of you.  Not that you have multiple of them, itnet7, on your own.  Tho that would be spiffy.
[21:30] <itnet7> MichelleQ: I am planning to try get more in the channel... Work has kind of been dragging me a bit lately... but
[21:30] <itnet7> :-)
[21:30] <MichelleQ> I hear ya
[21:30] <MichelleQ> I've had eleventy billion things going on - and work.
[21:31] <itnet7> Do you think it is better to wait until the seconde week of the month when there are five tuesdays?
[21:31] <itnet7> or second/fourth
[21:31] <itnet7> it seems like it would be a little more of an even stagger to do it that way
[21:32] <MichelleQ> I'd go 1st/3rd... and we'll just go an extra week those two months


 :D
[00:06] <ikonia> plus I thought he was implying he "knew" pricechild
[00:06] <ikonia> cough
[00:06] <ikonia> cough
[00:06] <ikonia> I don't know pricechild in that way
[00:06] <Seeker`> >.<
[00:06] <ikonia> so it would be unfair to suggest other wise
[00:06] <elky_work> ikonia, so? it might not be a genuine threat, but if it was a staffer having that said to them, it'd be a pretty hefty punishment
[00:06] <Daviey> point not well made :(
[00:06] <ikonia> (the "bitch please" comment gave it away
[00:07] <Seeker`> Daviey: what point?
[00:07] <ikonia> elky_work: no, I appriciate that
[00:07] <Daviey> Seeker`: the PriceChild link :/
[00:10] <ikonia> Daviey: thats odd, the language has stopped now that a member of staff has shown up.....how unusual
[00:10] <ikonia> ;)
[00:11] <Daviey> ikonia: which staffer?
[00:11] <ikonia> you
[00:11] <ikonia> oooh emma is reading the -ops log again
[00:11] <ikonia> must be tailing it
[00:12] <Seeker`> hi emma
[00:12] <Daviey> ikonia: /me not staff
[00:12] <elky_work> i wish i had time to read everything that happened in channels i'm not in.
[00:12] <ikonia> Daviey: ooh bum
[00:13] <ikonia> although that was a perhaps uncalled for on my part (last comment)
[00:13] <elky_work> about emma or the staff presence stopping misbehaviour?
[00:13] <ikonia> about emma
[00:13] <ikonia> uncalled for on my part
[00:17] <elky_work> not really. she takes offense at irseek logging, yet loves trailing us through these logs. i dont see anything uncalled in what you said.
[00:20] <ikonia> no proof or evidence, it was an uncalled for dig on my part
[00:21] <nalioth> i'd not worry about it
[00:22] <ikonia> I'm not, but it doesn't hurt to say it
[00:22] <maco> ive got a question about ops & irc since i know i'm op-able on #ubuntuforums
[00:22] <elky_work> ikonia, there's plenty of proof that she reads logs, and she herself admits so
[00:22] <ikonia> I know she does, but my comment was unfounced and uncalled for
[00:23] <maco> so if there are any irssi-using ops around that can tell me how to make an alias to op-ify in $current_channel, thatd be neat
[00:23] <jdong> 19:23 Aliases:
[00:23] <jdong> 19:23 cso        msg chanserv op $C
[00:23] <jdong> maco: ^^
[00:23] <maco> jdong: thank you
[00:23] <maco> i didnt think aliases could take args so i wasnt sure
[00:23] <jdong> everything after /cso will be considered an arg
[00:24] <maco> oh... is $C "current channel"?
[00:24] <jdong> for example, /cso alone just ops you. Or you can add an arbirary list of usernames
[00:24] <jdong> right
[00:24] <maco> ok
[00:24] <elky_work> ikonia, i honestly do not believe it to be either.
[00:25] <maco> jdong: wait...how do you unop?
[00:26] <jdong> maco: /cso -maco
[00:26] <jdong> -nick = unop nick
[00:26] <LjL> or one could just /deop nick...
[00:26] <jdong> right
[00:27] <maco> ok thank you
[00:29] <AfterDeath> jdong: if you're using irssi, an alias I've found *very* helpful is /cs = /msg chanserv $0 $C $1-
[00:29] <jdong> AfterDeath: indeed that seems useful :)
[00:29] <AfterDeath> so, if you do "/cs op" it'll op you in the current channel, but you could also do "/cs access list" which is the equivalent of "/msg chanserv access $channel list"
[00:33] <jdong> ikonia: I spoke to MLP regarding the quoted statement. It was a poorly worded joke due to the language barrier and didn't come across right.
[00:33] <jdong> she meant no harm
[00:39] <ikonia> jdong: fair enough
[01:15] <Amaranth> icanhas is being annoying in 3 channels at once
[01:16] <ikonia> Amaranth: thats a rare tallanet
[01:16] <ikonia> tallent
[01:16] <Amaranth> not annoying enough to get a ban though, arg
[01:16] <elky_work> icanhas has been annoying for quite a while iirc
[01:36] <Myrtti> http://myrtti.fi/temp/irssi_aliases.txt
[01:37] <ikonia> Myrtti: empcannon is ammusing
[01:37] <Myrtti> I prefer hellokitty myself
[01:42] <elky_work> why two consecutive waits in soap?
[01:52] <ikonia> would someone do a grep on bantrack for susanoo
[01:52] <ikonia> please
[01:56] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[01:56] <Seeker`> ikonia: what channel are they in?
[01:56] <ikonia> ubuntu+1
[01:56] <ikonia> but I suspect ubuntu is what he's referencing
[01:57] <Seeker`> what is their host?
[01:57] <ikonia> he just made a comment that I should remember him, and when I said no he said "good"
[01:57] <ikonia><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:58] <Seeker`> ikonia: cant see anything
[01:58] <ikonia> fair enough
[01:59] <Seeker`> nothing on susanoo, Kojo, or any part of the IP more specific than 70.
[02:00] <ikonia> just seemed odd that someone would say "good you dont remember me"
[02:00] <ikonia> no biggy
[02:01] <elky_work> i'd be hawking him though
[02:13]  * Seeker` gives ikonia some hawk eyes
[03:04] <ubotu> In ubotu, Starnestommy said: what is ubotu?
[03:25] <elky_work> .... like hell he doesnt know
[07:11] <ubotu> bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (liveinteractive)
[14:18] <Pici> !noroot
[14:18] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[14:18] <Pici> oh.. nevermind
[14:41] <jpatrick> !pici
[14:41] <ubotu> pici is stuck in a factoid factory! Send help!
[14:41] <Pici> :D
[14:42] <Pici> sigh
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici, had a tough weekend health wise...  will get back when I can.. back to bed
[14:46] <Pici> :(
[14:52] <Pici> Hrm, wiki and help down?
[14:53] <Mez> !mez
[14:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mez - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:53] <Mez> yay
[14:57] <jpatrick> !yay
[14:57] <ubotu> Glad you made it! :-)
[14:57] <jpatrick> Pici: both here, depends..
[14:58] <Pici> Looks like its back up now.
[15:27] <ubotu> In ubotu, BalaamsMiracle said: !museek is A cross-platform SoulSeek client, written in C++
[15:30] <Pici> I dont see that in the repos, only museek+
[15:50] <jpatrick> we have !info for that anyway
[15:50] <Pici> !soulseek | already exists anyway
[15:50] <ubotu> already exists anyway: SoulSeek clients: Nicotine (GTK), Museeq (KDE), Mucous (terminal-based) - See also !P2P
[15:55] <Mez> ooh, didnt know there were SS clients ;)
[15:55]  * Mez downloads
[16:20] <Pici> hm.. Lots of mib_* users lately.
[16:20] <PriceChild> mibbit.com
[16:21] <Pici> Yes.
[16:21] <Pici> PriceChild: I know its mibbit, but just a lot of them with mib_* names.
[16:24] <Mez> !planet-#ubuntu-uk is Planet Ubuntu (blogs of Ubuntu developers and members) can be found at http://planet.ubuntu.com - the UK version can be found at http://planet.ubuntu-uk.org
[16:24] <Mez> !planet-#ubuntu-uk is <reply> Planet Ubuntu (blogs of Ubuntu developers and members) can be found at http://planet.ubuntu.com - the UK version can be found at http://planet.ubuntu-uk.org
[16:24]  * Mez slaps the bot
[16:24] <Mez> someone please, fix that - it doesnt like me
[16:24] <Pici> hm?
[16:24] <Pici> !planet-#ubuntu-uk
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[16:26] <Pici> hm
[16:26] <Pici> Doesnt like me either.
[16:28]  * Pici sets up a trigger for 'hardy' or '8.04' that banforwards people to #ubuntu+1
[16:28] <jussio1> Pici: hehehe, shouldhave done that ages ago...
[16:28] <jussio1> :P
[17:18] <stdin> just got a /msg, <irem> Merhaba Benle Dürüstce ArkadaþlýkEtmek Ýstiyorsan Arkadaþ Olmak Ýstersen €€€kelel€kell zelis_ank23@
[17:18] <stdin> [irem] (n=Ayfer|at@213-140-17-101.ip.fastwebnet.it): bilge01
[17:19] <Pici> stdin: I'd report it in #freenode.
[17:59] <Seveas> !staff --^
[17:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about staff --^ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:59] <Seveas> !staff | --^
[17:59] <ubotu> --^: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[17:59] <Pici> stdin: ?
[17:59] <Pici> er, Seveas ?
[17:59] <Seveas> Pici, quick way of reporting :)
[18:02] <NeT_DeMoN_> Seveas,
[18:03] <Seveas> NeT_DeMoN_, ?
[18:03] <NeT_DeMoN_> may i speak to you?
[18:03] <Seveas> sure
[18:03] <Seveas> newton_3, this channel is not for idling. Do you have anything to ask the ops?
[18:03] <NeT_DeMoN_> i was also asking if someone knew away around those dialoge boxes
[18:03] <newton_3> Seveas:
[18:03] <newton_3> monitoring the conversation...
[18:03] <Seveas> NeT_DeMoN_, that's no reason to post links to malicious sites
[18:03] <NeT_DeMoN_> because i had important pages open in my browser
[18:04] <Seveas> newton_3, NeT_DeMoN_ and myself are big boys, no need for monitoring.
[18:04] <NeT_DeMoN_> and i was hoping someone knew a way around
[18:04] <newton_3> lol
[18:04] <Pici> Perhaps at least a warning before posting the link was appropriate...
[18:04] <NeT_DeMoN_> alright
[18:05] <NeT_DeMoN_> may i be forgiven?
[18:05] <Seveas> NeT_DeMoN_, maybe come back tomorrow
[18:05] <Seveas> malicious links like that are seriously bad
[18:05] <NeT_DeMoN_> Seveas, alright, thank you
[18:06] <NeT_DeMoN_> yeah, the owner logged on 30 minutes after and told me how to stop them
[18:06] <NeT_DeMoN_> all it does is have a box pop opne
[18:06] <NeT_DeMoN_> the text inside was just funny business
[18:06] <NeT_DeMoN_> because shes a white-hat
[18:09] <Seveas> NeT_DeMoN_, is there anything else you want to discuss?
[18:09] <NeT_DeMoN_> not really unless yall want to discuss something with me
[18:10] <Seveas> then I have to ask you to leave, this channel is not for idling
[18:10] <NeT_DeMoN_> alright
[18:10] <NeT_DeMoN_> have a good day
[18:47] <Pici> ...
[18:48] <ompaul> it was a waring
[18:48] <ompaul> warn even
[20:07] <Seveas> nixternal, w.t.f.!
[20:07] <nixternal> what?
[20:08] <Seveas> blog
[20:08] <nixternal> hahahaha
[20:08] <nixternal> that is our Community Manager
[20:08] <Seveas> seriously wtf
[20:08] <nixternal> he is going to kill me for that one
[20:08] <Seveas> I guess so :)
[20:08] <nixternal> we were at Penguicon in Troy, Michigan this week
[20:09] <nixternal> and the Tron Guy if you ever seen him was dressed up and stuff, and Jono loved it...so I just gimped in Jono's head on the Tron Guys body :)
[20:09]  * pleia2 laughs
[20:09] <nixternal> Tron Guy and Jono is about all I remember from Penguicon....way to much free alcohol
[20:10] <jussi01> @btlogin
[20:37] <PriceChild> Pici: mib_ is the default for it
[20:37] <Pici> PriceChild: I know!
[20:38] <PriceChild> and its only recently been exempted again recently
[20:38] <PriceChild> ish
[20:38] <PriceChild> so people are just finding about it
[20:38] <PriceChild> and also... http://www.bridgebuilder-game.com/ is tres fun
[21:42] <ompaul> rZog|NA, how can we help you ?
[21:42] <ompaul> AfterDeath, how can we help you
[21:48] <Myrtti> errr
[21:50] <ompaul> errrrr
[21:50] <ompaul> ?
[21:50] <ompaul> ahh ad
[21:50] <ompaul> Myrtti, was that it?
[21:51] <Myrtti> just wonderign
[21:51] <ompaul> I have a long memory it was in the bad part at this stage
[21:51] <ompaul> I'll invite him back if that works
[22:50] <jussio1> Daviey: Ill be in the next game...
[22:56] <Daviey> cool
[23:34] <PriceChild> fyi forums are under for upgrades, its planned will be back in about an hour (for when people start complaining in #ubuntu)


[00:49] <noordinaryspider> Can anyone help me with user switching? I am using lightdm and Mate 1.12.1
[00:57] <tiox> I'm doing stupid stuff and writing a guide about it again.
[00:57] <tiox> This time around, I've managed to mak the XFCE desktop function in MATE but I cannot, for the life of me make file transfers work.
[00:58] <tiox> I found the script which does it, because xfdesktop requires thunar but I think i can hack a way around it by editing XFCE's dbus service file.
[03:19] <chamateche> hi
[03:20] <chamateche> somebody there or are all bots?
[03:21] <chamateche> tenchu do you are a bot?
[03:22] <chamateche> i have a question
[03:22] <tenchu> the nbd-client on my ltsp client continues to hang up. any suggestions?
[03:23] <tenchu> not a bot.
[03:23] <chamateche> if i install the ubuntu-mate 16.10 BETA 2 , can i upgrade for the 16.10 release when it come out?
[03:24] <chamateche> i heard that it is full gtk3 ,i curious to try it, i can't wait
[03:25] <tenchu> good luck getting an accurate answer from this chat
[03:25] <chamateche> all are bots '-'
[03:25] <noordinaryspider> not a bot; you shouldn't have any trouble with that.
[03:26] <chamateche> i know that are in development yet , can i upgrade to official release after
[03:27] <chamateche> ...installing and using the Beta 2?
[03:28] <chamateche> only 3 persons in this chat are not a bot '-'
[03:29] <tenchu> guess ill try again later. good luck
[10:39] <mate|26800> Anybody knows how to make mate faster
[10:39] <mate|26800> my keyboard and mouse stuck every time i turn on my laptop
[10:43] <masnell____> @mate|26800: using compiz? I find it always interferes with kb/mouse responsiveness (MATE or not)
[14:39] <leo-ren> some one know hot to dynamically(mouse click) change the gnome panel launcher icon?
[16:19] <clemerson> gostaria de saber como instalar o cerel
[16:23] <t__> so, i hope you guys state interested in MATE
[16:25] <t__> I think the GNOME 2 is still best layout for desktop/laptop (for me at least)
[16:25] <ouroumov> Is that you tiox?
[16:25] <t__> but ofc, thats just front end design
[16:26] <t__> the fact you guys have brought the gnome 2 layout but with gtk3 is great
[16:27] <t__> i am not Tiox, sorry :)
[16:27] <ouroumov> :)
[16:27] <leo-ren> im agree with t__ :)
[16:28] <t__> so dont get all Unityish on us :)
[23:22] <allanViking> hi, I managed to f up my Ubuntu Mate 16.04 again, this time dropbox chowned a unknown amount of files of unknown paths starting from / , now when ubuntu starts, the screen start flashing on and off forever
[23:24] <allanViking> dropbox very "userfriendly" feature is that it chowns all synced files to the user running dropbox. I had /etc and /var bind,ro mounted inside the dropbox dir, but Dropbox asked me my password for sudo and I gave it expecting that bind,ro means Bind ReadOnly, yet after dropbox was finished, these mounts became writable
[23:25] <allanViking> I mounted my disks in livecd and managed to chown --from 1000 -R root /path/to/etc where 1000 was my user
[23:26] <allanViking> but I am sure there are var and etc folders that are owned by someone else than root
[23:37] <secretdude0> Hi everyone! Is anyone here?
[23:37] <allanViking> could anyone cd /etc && find . \! -user root -print
[23:37] <allanViking> then I can make sure whether there are in fact any files under /etc that are NOT owned by root
[23:54] <allanViking> I think I managed to fix everything under var now, wish me luck. Bye!


[04:04] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i was going to give installing a 352.x version of the nvidia drivers in 15.04 and there are a few ppa's for it...is xorg-edgers the one that's generally used/trusted or is there a better one? if this is the wrong place to ask...sorry about that :)
[04:07] <SonikkuAmerica> I don't think so... lemme look it up
[04:09] <arthurfiggis> SonikkuAmerica, thanks...the other one commonly mentioned is ppa:mamarley/nvidia but i wasn't sure which one was...not supported, but generally used i guess :)
[04:09] <SonikkuAmerica> I would look on NVIDIA's Web site for Linux drivers and (even though it's not necessarily recommended because security) run one of their scripts
[04:12] <arthurfiggis> SonikkuAmerica, ahh, okay...on some distributions running the nvidia installer seemed to cause a lot of troubles, but i guess keeping it up to date for security reasons would be important as well. maybe i'll check out installing the official installers then, thanks :)
[08:43] <octoquad> darkxst, does a guest session exist under Ubuntu Gnome?
[08:43] <octoquad> Re: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+question/269580
[09:07] <darkxst> octoquad, no
[09:09] <darkxst> it might work when using lightdm, but not gdm
[09:22] <octoquad> ta. Added a response to the question.
[09:26] <octoquad> darkxst, any good resources/books for learning C. I have Programming in C (3rd Edition) by Stephen G. Kochan.
[09:31] <darkxst> octoquad, no idea
[09:31] <darkxst> maybe c.learncodethehardway.org/book/ their python book seems pretty popular
[09:35] <darkxst> also GNOME C is kind of unique, with all the glib/gobject/gtk stuff etc not sure how much a generic book will help with all that
[09:35] <darkxst> octoquad, have to run
[09:35] <octoquad> ok thanks
[09:36] <darkxst> if you know the basics of C, read the code and try and fix some simple bugs
[09:37] <octoquad> actually I find working with real problems the best way to learn. If you have any please send them my way.
[09:37] <darkxst> try look at bugs tagged gnome-love on bugzilla
[09:38] <octoquad> ah yes
[10:07] <octoquad> darkxst, when you get some time please update: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+question/269911
[10:43] <octoquad> only
[10:44] <octoquad> ^ sorry was looking for something in the chat log :P
[12:20] <darkxst> octoquad, updated
[13:15] <octoquad> ta
[13:22] <darkxst> octoquad, np, there is crap everywhere that is probably never updated!
[13:35] <octoquad> OK, i'll keep an eye out if I find anything and update.
[13:40] <octoquad> darkxst, for ubuntu-gnome-default-settings if I do dch -i the version becomes 15.04.5ubuntu1 is this correct? I see previous entries don't have the ubuntu1 bit?
[13:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !info ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[13:41] <darkxst> octoquad, no, ubuntu is upsteam, so it should be 15.10.1
[13:41] <SonikkuAmerica> darkxst: Is he using the dev branch?
[13:41] <darkxst> SonikkuAmerica, Its for wily
[13:42] <darkxst> atleast I assume
[13:42] <SonikkuAmerica> kkz
[13:42] <octoquad> Yes for wily, I branched from here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/wily/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/wily
[13:43] <octoquad> I can redo it, not a problem, it's small change
[13:43] <darkxst> SonikkuAmerica, for what its worth xorg-edgers is about the best trusted place to get nvidia drivers, but it does pull in other updates. so in that case you need pins
[13:43] <darkxst> still far easier than breaking your system with nvidia's installer
[13:44] <octoquad> darkxst, should I rather use this branch instead: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[13:44] <darkxst> octoquad, just change the version and commit, bzr gobbles up history unlike git
[13:45] <SonikkuAmerica> darkxst: Yeah, last night I wasn't too sure if xorg-edgers was even still maintained, given it's been around since nvidia-96
[13:45] <darkxst> its maintained by ricotz
[13:46] <octoquad> So version should become 15.10 or 15.10.1 instead of 15.04.5ubuntu1
[13:46] <octoquad> or 15.10.0 if I look at the previous entries
[13:46] <darkxst> 15.10.0 is gine
[13:46] <darkxst> fine
[13:47] <darkxst> I honestly have better things to worry about if its a 0 or 1!
[13:48] <darkxst> and lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings is the actual branch, but most likely the other you posted is just a link to that same branch
[13:51]  * darkxst waits for the day the world falls over, and ubuntu moves to git ;)
[13:51] <darkxst> shouldnt be too far off!
[13:55] <octoquad> hehe
[13:56] <octoquad> I did a bzr lp-propose, it now has tvim open, not sure what I should put in there. Any ideas? This guide doesn't mention it as a step to complete: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html
[13:56] <octoquad> tvim = vim
[13:59] <darkxst> its a u-d-d branch really doesnt matter. so long as changelog entry in good
[14:01] <darkxst> particularly when its midnight here and I need to be up and out by 7.30am tomorrow
[14:01]  * darkxst going bed
[14:01] <octoquad> ok. Sorted. Fix committed.
[14:01] <octoquad> Thanks for the help :)
[14:02] <octoquad> night darkxst
[14:03] <darkxst> octoquad, will look tomorrow and sponsor
[14:04] <darkxst> just file a MP
[14:04] <darkxst> so I get email notification ;)
[14:06] <darkxst> there are whispers of dgit coming to ubuntu and replacing the u-d-d stuff ;)
[14:06] <darkxst> night
[14:08] <octoquad> MP done, but my release tag is wrong in the commit, should be wily not vivid. darn
[14:09] <darkxst> just add another commit. MP will update
[14:11] <darkxst> and bzr will squash the history out of existence when its merged
[14:11] <darkxst> PoS really
[14:12] <darkxst> and you may ask why, but there is nothing close to git rebase in bzr ;(
[14:12] <octoquad> PoS?
[14:13] <darkxst> piece of shit
[14:13] <octoquad> haha
[14:13] <octoquad> btw: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/git-code-hosting-beta
[14:14] <darkxst> yeh I know, thats partly motivated by dgit
[14:15] <darkxst> we were however planning to host our branches in debian
[14:15] <octoquad> is it a lot of work? Sorry for keeping you up
[14:16] <darkxst> whats a lot of work?
[14:17] <darkxst> migrating to git?
[14:18] <octoquad> porting everything to debian
[14:18] <octoquad> branches that is
[14:19] <darkxst> octoquad, no porting just hosting our branches on alioth
[14:19] <octoquad> Oh i see
[14:19] <darkxst> which makes perfect sense, once debian move to git
[14:20] <darkxst> debian gnome is still on svn ;(
[14:20] <octoquad> wow
[14:20] <octoquad> I so over svn lol
[14:20] <octoquad> i'm*
[14:21] <octoquad> ok, that's it from me today. Tomorrow I shall work on the USC fix.
[14:21] <octoquad> night darkxst
[14:21] <darkxst> octoquad, but I have clearance to host our stuff their until that happend
[14:22] <darkxst> or could be hosted on git.launchpad until then, I don't really care
[14:22] <octoquad> lol your choice darkxst :)
[14:23] <octoquad> i'll chat to you tomoz, get some rest already haha
[14:24] <darkxst> it makes little difference until they have their git branches setup
[14:24] <darkxst> and I'm sleeping now
[14:24] <octoquad> lo
[14:24] <octoquad> lol
[14:27] <darkxst> but the end goal, is we tend to start packaging dev releases,  then debian pick them up around the time we pull into ubuntu atchives
[14:27]  * darkxst really gone now though
[15:19] <lindol> hi all
[15:23] <Dave07747> Hi lindol
[15:25] <lindol> Dave07747, thank you :)
[15:26] <Dave07747> Of course lindol :)
[15:29] <lindol> What is your time? :)
[15:29] <lindol> Korea is midnight :)
[15:29] <lindol> I will go to bed soon :)
[15:36] <lindol> have a good night :)
[15:38] <Dave07747> 11:38 AM
[15:38] <Dave07747> America east coast
[21:49] <meowPolice> I used unetbootin to try to boot gnome from a flashdrive and now whenever I plug it in it doesn't load and I can't open bios