[12:00] <ray_> how do you identify?
[12:00] <sean_> nickserv wont change ur enick unless the registered user wants
[12:00] <mary-kate> /ns identify yourpass
[12:00] <sean_> i know, beaucse im not the registered user of this nick :p
[12:00] <nalioth> ray_: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[12:00] <mary-kate> then why use it if it isn't yours?
[12:00] <ero-senni> hey anyone want to be a guiney pig?
[12:01] <ray_> depends what it is
[12:01] <sean_> beacuse im sean? and what do i really care?
[12:01] <mary-kate> so you don't care if someone ghosts you?
[12:01] <ero-senni> im writing a tutorial on installing gsnes9x
[12:01] <mary-kate> lol
[12:01] <sean_> not in the slightest
[12:01] <ero-senni> i just need someone to follow it, and just make sure i didn't forget anything
[12:01] <andres> hi
[12:01] <ray_> gsnes9x........whats that a gui for snes9x?
[12:01] <ero-senni> yes
[12:01] <Fingolfinn> i need help with ubuntu PPC, firewire dual booting
[12:01] <ray_> send me the link i will try
[12:02] <ero-senni> http://home.comcast.net/~microsoftsux0rs/tut.txt
[12:02] <andres> question, i ran apt-get install mozilla-firefox and got the following:mozilla-firefox: Depends_firefox but it is not installable
[12:02] <ero-senni> i think i installed some libarys to get it working, as soon as you tell me the error ill write it in the tutorial
[12:02] <ray_> ero-senni: isnt snes9express the gui version.....whats the diff
[12:03] <ero-senni> snes9xepress looks prettier
[12:03] <ero-senni> but i couldn't get it work
[12:03] <andres> anyone can help me?
[12:03] <tristanmike> andres, are you sure you don't have it installed already?
[12:03] <ero-senni> andres use synaptic to update firefox
[12:03] <andres> no
[12:03] <andres> how do i use synaptic
[12:03] <ray_> ero-senni: all you have to do is apt-get it
[12:03] <ero-senni> andres, do apt-get install firefox
[12:03] <andres> yes, i've done that
[12:04] <andres> ant i get that error
[12:04] <ero-senni> do you have root permissions?
[12:04] <tristanmike> andres, check synaptic
[12:04] <ero-senni> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:04] <andres> i've done a dist-upgrade to hoary
[12:04] <ero-senni> holy crap
[12:04] <tristanmike> lol
[12:04] <tristanmike> it's not funny, but that reaction was funny
[12:04] <andres> no, synaptic is a gui for apt
[12:05] <ray_> ero-senni: did you get it.........im not gonna do that install you sent me because i just got snes9express
[12:05] <EasterSunshine> andres: take the cd sources out of your sources.list and try again
[12:05] <andres> yep, i've done that already
[12:05] <andres> and ran an apt-get update
[12:05] <ero-senni> ray_,  im running amd64 ubuntu hoary
[12:05] <Fingolfinn> helpless helpless helpless helpless
[12:05] <ero-senni> its not instable
[12:05] <andres> and still having the same problem
[12:05] <sean_> snes9xpress? i like the sound of that, hows it run?
[12:06] <ero-senni> installable*
[12:06] <Fingolfinn> i wanna be in an Apple band
[12:06] <ray_> sean_: it is awsome nice gui.....you can make it look just like a snes
[12:06] <icewt> when i last time fired up ubuntu, a check of some partition was forced (/foo/bar has not been checked for X days, check forced, or something). i wonder where those texts go? are they logged somewhere? don't say /var/log - not there
[12:06] <sean_> damn sounds great ray_ thanks for the tip
[12:07] <tristanmike> ray, better than zsnes?
[12:07] <ray_> way better than zsnes
[12:07] <ray_> zsnes is horrible..........snes9express gives you all sorts of video options
[12:07] <sean_> yeah i agree with ya there, i hated plain old znes
[12:07] <ero-senni> im gonna see if i can install snesxpress through source
[12:07] <ero-senni> brb
[12:08] <BTJustice> How do you allow root to log into KDE?
[12:08] <tristanmike> horrible for linux? cause I've never had a problem with the win32 version
[12:08] <sean_> win32 version is pimp :p
[12:08] <martin> Question: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?
[12:08] <sean_> linux version not so pimp
[12:08] <tristanmike> ahhh, i c
[12:08] <dan2_> I'm having some difficulty using nvidia drivers on ubuntu
[12:08] <tristanmike> fair enough
[12:08] <dan2_> I keep getting this
[12:08] <dan2_> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[12:08] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, don't run kde as a root user
[12:09] <Nuckin_Futs>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY pa3291u
[12:09] <BTJustice> I am not going to get on the Internet with it
[12:09] <Nuckin_Futs> WHAt
[12:09] <Nuckin_Futs> ignore that
[12:09] <andres> look, this is the exact error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:09] <andres>   mozilla-firefox: Depends: firefox but it is not installable
[12:09] <andres> E: Broken packages
[12:09] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: I am not going to get on the Internet with it
[12:09] <Nuckin_Futs> hi
[12:09] <zaki_> hello
[12:09] <ntoblack> howdy
[12:09] <tristanmike> ray, so should I install all files associated with 9x?
[12:10] <Nuckin_Futs> when i try to instal SWAT i get this message
[12:10] <Fingolfinn> lalalalalala
[12:10] <codecaine> Nuckin_Futs, change your pass now
[12:10] <ray_> tristanmike: just........sudo apt-get install snes9espress
[12:10] <nalioth> BTJustice: a good rule of thumb is not to run any gui file manager as root (turns some of into "file manglers")
[12:10] <Nuckin_Futs> codecaine i should
[12:10] <Nuckin_Futs> how
[12:10] <LinuxJones> Nuckin_Futs, best to change your password >> /msg nickserv set password YourNewPassord
[12:10] <codecaine> there
[12:10] <tristanmike> ray, right so no front-end, no opengl binarys, just the main program?
[12:10] <Fingolfinn> mac users are 1 in 30
[12:10] <Nuckin_Futs> k thx LinuxJones
[12:11] <dalamar> you want the front end if your running it in X
[12:11] <LinuxJones> Nuckin_Futs, but not in this channel :)
[12:11] <ero-senni> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:11] <ero-senni>   snes9express: Depends: snes9x-x but it is not installable
[12:11] <ero-senni> E: Broken packages
[12:11] <Fingolfinn> but there are 507 people in here
[12:11] <ero-senni> hah!
[12:11] <Fingolfinn> where the fuck are the mac heads that know ubuntu
[12:11] <Fingolfinn> lol
[12:11] <dalamar> you need base snes9x and snes9xexpress, and the gl if you wanna run the gl
[12:11] <ray_> tristanmike: well it gets the snes9-x and snes9-common files when you apt
[12:11] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, it's too easy to make a mistake and totally screw up your computer
[12:11] <Nuckin_Futs> when i try to install SWAT i get this message: swat:
[12:11] <Nuckin_Futs>   Depends: samba (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed
[12:11] <ero-senni> holy crap i got it to compile
[12:11] <ray_> ero-senni: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:12] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: what mac question do you have?
[12:12] <ero-senni> well ray_ , i just got it to install from source
[12:12] <Fingolfinn> I'm having severe difficulty getting my firewire installation of ubuntu to boot
[12:12] <Fingolfinn> the yaboot wouldn't install, and i'm having no luck booting manually from the firmware prompt
[12:12] <ero-senni> screw the gsnes9x pos
[12:13] <ray_> tristanmike: what do you mean front-end    snes9express is the front end
[12:13] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: preface your comments aimed at specific people with that persons nick, please
[12:13] <Fingolfinn> okay
[12:13] <tristanmike> ray, sorry, I'm just looking at the packages through synaptic
[12:13] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: where is your yaboot and what is in it?
[12:13] <ray_> i have 900 snes roms   : ))))
[12:13] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: it failed to install
[12:13] <tristanmike> NICE
[12:13] <sean_> damn ray nice collectiopn
[12:13] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: failed to install WHERE?
[12:13] <Stormx> Hey
[12:14] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: on the firewire hardrive
[12:14] <dalamar> theres only about 20 good ones, anyway I have the whole rom set on my xbox
[12:14] <ray_> tristanmike: if you have limewire or gtk-gnutella you can download them there
[12:14] <vladuz976> ubuntu doesn't have a .xinitrc or .xsession file?
[12:14] <ray_> dalamar: you play them on your xbox?
[12:14] <tristanmike> ray, but I must make sure I get the originals first ;)
[12:14] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: you will have to install yaboot on your fixed hard drive and edit it to point to your fw drive, i believe
[12:14] <dalamar> ray_, along with half a dozen other emus yes
[12:15] <ray_> dalamar: how?
[12:15] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: what does that require in terms of repartitioning?
[12:15] <mihai> what's the package name for xfce ? apt-get install xfce doesn't work
[12:15] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: if you're lucky, you have some slack space already
[12:15] <Vash|away> will the nvidia ubuntu drivers work with PCI versions too?
[12:15] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: that's all I need?
[12:15] <Stormx> mihai: Use synaptic and run a search
[12:15] <vader1102> apt-get install xfce4
[12:15] <dalamar> ray_, modded xbox running emulators off a dvd with the full romsets included
[12:15] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: but the boot partition only requires >1mb
[12:16] <Fingolfinn> okay let me try that
[12:16] <Nuckin_Futs> can some one please tell me what this message is trying to say:  swat:
[12:16] <Nuckin_Futs>   Depends: samba (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed
[12:16] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: be careful mucking with your partitions
[12:16] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: but I also have problems identifying the firewire hardrive
[12:16] <ray_> dalamar: i couls never figure out how to mod an xbox
[12:16] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, it says, kick the backports goodbye or swat
[12:16] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: it's seen as a scsi drive
[12:16] <Seveas> can't have them both
[12:16] <Stormx> ray_: Take it apart and add / remove stuff?
[12:16] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: so it'll be sdb or sda or whatever
[12:17] <Nuckin_Futs> k thx seveas
[12:17] <sean_> man breezy update takes forever
[12:17] <ray_> well i put a mod chip in my friends
[12:17] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: do you know what format of address it should be pointed to?
[12:17] <ray_> but it didnt work
[12:17] <dalamar> ray_, its actually really easy if you have a router and can connect the xbox to the network, I don't even have a chip installed its just software modded
[12:17] <Stormx> ray_ You didn't just put it in the cd rom drive did you?
[12:17] <nate_> Hey, its me again
[12:17] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: when you have your fw drive plugged into your ubuntu, run "sudo fdisk -l" to see what it is
[12:17] <Fingolfinn> nalioth, the other problem is, my computer will no longer recognize the firewire hardrive
[12:17] <nate_> Can someone else try installing java, to see if its not just me?
[12:17] <ray_> dalamar: yeah i have mine hooked to a router]
[12:18] <Stormx> + You can get linux on your xbox, which I havn't done
[12:18] <ray_> nate_: what did you try
[12:18] <Stormx> My bro put it on Dreamcast, though
[12:18] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: have you plugged it in, and unplugged it during this session?
[12:18] <sean_> linux on your x-box is not for sale in north america anymore, or for ps2..
[12:18] <dalamar> ray_, do some reading on xbox-scene.com or try #xbox on efnet
[12:18] <sean_> unless u Ebay it
[12:18] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: no, it says it's unreadable
[12:18] <nate_> ray_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[12:18] <dalamar> sean_, it never was for sale it was a custom job from the beginning
[12:18] <vader1102> sean_ that's because they haven
[12:18] <nate_> I tried doing this AFTER adding extra repos
[12:18] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: it recognizes it in disk utility however
[12:19] <vader1102> anymore kits
[12:19] <dalamar> sean_, which you can still do
[12:19] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: ah. i'm clueless about that. i'd reboot and replug it and see
[12:19] <ray_> nate_: ok what is the error
[12:19] <sean_> dalamar , theres a whole kit u can by, not so custom
[12:19] <dalamar> sean_, waste of money ;) its fairly simple once you know how to softmod the xbox
[12:19] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: it's the file system format, it's not readable by mac os x, it won't mount
[12:19] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[12:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[12:19] <Seveas> !tell nate_ about ubuntuguide
[12:19] <sean_> lol, i like doing things the easy way lol
[12:19] <ewhitten> do I need to enable inotify with a kernel option at boot?  And is it safe?
[12:19] <sean_> but softmodding sounds like a neat concept
[12:19] <Vash> Something is wrong with the NVIDIA Drivers
[12:20] <ewhitten> (for breezy, sorry)
[12:20] <nate_> I already know about the Ubuntu guide
[12:20] <SweetDreams> guys can u help me here? i am new to ubuntu! i've done what ubuntuguide tells us to do concerning the sound but i still dont have sound, any suggestions?
[12:20] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: i added something to ubotu, can you verify if its okay? it is "upgrade2breezy"
[12:20] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: which OS "futzed" the fs?
[12:20] <Seveas> sean_, dalamar, take this highly off topic discussion somewhere else...
[12:20] <nate_> I did the extra repos and still get an error
[12:20] <Vash> I followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and everything seems ok, but when ubuntu goes to the graphical login, I get a black screen.
[12:20] <dalamar> anyways
[12:20] <Nuckin_Futs> Vash: when i installed nVidia driver i had to re-install ubuntu, messed up my res and wouldnt let ubuntu start
[12:20] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: what do you mean?
[12:20] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: mac os x 10.4.2
[12:21] <EasterSunshine> IceDC571: i sleep with it
[12:21] <ewhitten> cheater!
[12:21] <ewhitten> *sniff*
[12:21] <sean_> wow.. channel nazi... so much for the humanity feeling
[12:21] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: so the data on the fw is ext3 or hfs+ ?
[12:21] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: the line of code you said to enter returned the following: fdisk: illegal option -- 1
[12:22] <Fingolfinn> ext3
[12:22] <Seveas> that kind of talk is not allowed...
[12:22] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: it is an lowercase L as in Lion
[12:22] <Fingolfinn> oh my bad
[12:22] <Fingolfinn> ^.^
[12:22] <IceDC571> EasterSunshine: do you usually fall alseep with scrolling text?
[12:22] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: this will allow your OSX to read/write to your ubuntu partitions  http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/
[12:22] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: says the same thing except with an 'l'
[12:23] <EasterSunshine> IceDC571: dunno what you mean...but no
[12:23] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: hmm, i ran "sudo fdisk -l" and got a nice output
[12:23] <sockpuppe1> a quick question.. do I need postfix to be running if im not using a mail server
[12:23] <Vash> it shouldn't make any difference that my gfx card is on PCI, right?
[12:23] <EasterSunshine> sockpuppe1: no
[12:23] <sockpuppe1> thanks
[12:23] <Fingolfinn> no go
[12:24] <Seveas> (bot abuse, both)
[12:24] <Fingolfinn> i have 2 firewire disks plugged in
[12:24] <arik> hey Seveas
[12:24] <Fingolfinn> *nalioth: i have 2 firewire disks plugged in
[12:24] <drudge> hello
[12:25] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: "sudo fdisk -l" will (L)ist all devices currently mounted
[12:25] <Fingolfinn> let me try the reading/writing jazz thing
[12:25] <arik> i cant change the resolution
[12:25] <Fingolfinn> it doesn't have that as an explanation under the guidelines described
[12:25] <Seveas> arik: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:25] <morbidi> arik: how big is your monitor ?
[12:25] <arik> how do i make it 1024
[12:25] <sockpuppe1> you guys ever heard of bum?
[12:25] <arik> 17inches
[12:25] <Seveas> sockpuppe1, of course :)
[12:25] <vader1102> !wow! I haven't seen that many bans in that short a time in a while
[12:25] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, vader1102
[12:25] <vader1102> lol
[12:25] <drudge> im trying to setup my wifi, i am using ndiswrapper and the prism02 driver, and i am able to see my router but it doesn't lease an ip
[12:25] <NoUse> !bum
[12:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[12:25] <Fingolfinn> *nalioth: it doesn't have that as an explanation under the guidelines described
[12:26] <sockpuppe1> seveas I think its pretty kickass
[12:26] <Seveas> vader1102, I was checking the bot stats
[12:26] <vader1102> forgot about that lol
[12:26] <shorty114> are dual procs easy to configure?
[12:26] <Seveas> bot abuse is stupid and you get banned for it...
[12:26] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: what isnt explained?
[12:26] <vader1102> lol
[12:26] <sockpuppe1> and breezy colony 3 runs perfectly (as far as I saw) on my hardware
[12:26] <nalioth> shorty114: sure they are (at least on my dual-G5 mac)
[12:26] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: l as an option
[12:26] <shorty114> nalioth, i'm thinking of buying a machine with dual 3.2 P4's
[12:26] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: you are using hoary? and bash as your shell?
[12:27] <shorty114> are dual procs supported well?
[12:27] <Seveas> shorty114, yes
[12:27] <nalioth> shorty114: np at all, just use apt-get to install your smp kernel, and you're in business
[12:27] <Fingolfinn> this might be a problem: tcsh: /sw/bin/init.csh: No such file or directory.
[12:27] <shorty114> nalioth, sweet, thanks.
[12:27] <EasterSunshine> shorty114: linux runs on comps with 512 processors, 2 processors is a walk in the park
[12:27] <icewt> is there an easy way to enter a mode where running fsck is safe?
[12:27] <arik> is there no? windows version for this seveas?
[12:27] <Fingolfinn> *Nalioth: this might be a problem: tcsh: /sw/bin/init.csh: No such file or directory.
[12:28] <Seveas> arik, for what?
[12:28] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i'm not sure what bash or shell i'm using
[12:28] <arik> configuration?
[12:28] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: shouldnt matter, fdisk is shell independent
[12:28] <Seveas> X does not run on windows...
[12:28] <EasterSunshine> Fingolfinn: do `ps` that will tell you what shell
[12:29] <Fingolfinn> tcsh
[12:29] <EasterSunshine> wow...where did you find a tcsh?
[12:29] <EasterSunshine> i don't even have that installed
[12:29] <Fingolfinn> no clue
[12:29] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, good :)
[12:29] <Akbar> :)
[12:29] <Seveas> if you don't want bash, use zsh. csh/tcsh are bad
[12:30] <Fingolfinn> but it says when i opened terminal, tcsh: /sw/bin/init.csh: No such file or directory.
[12:30] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: if you open your gnome terminal prefs, you can  choose which shell to use (i like bash)
[12:30] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i don't have any gnome terminal prefs that i'm aware of
[12:30] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: you have had fink installed b4. and i believe you are currently in OSX
[12:30] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i did, on a previous system
[12:31] <Nuckin_Futs> my other pc has xp, and i have a network between them, i am using the samba server, how can i make it that i can acces files on this pc with my other one
[12:31] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: no wonder my suggestions arent working, you are on OSX
[12:31] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: shit.
[12:31] <Akbar> Nuckin_Futs configurate your samba shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:31] <Nuckin_Futs> Akbar: ill give it a try
[12:31] <Akbar> or through your desktop gui app :P
[12:31] <drudge> why would iwconfig wlan0 essid "96WarrenAPT5" not change the essid from any/off
[12:32] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: thought you asked for "mac head ubuntu nerds", not "mac head mac nerds"
[12:32] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: lol fuck
[12:32] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: join ##apple for apple help
[12:32] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i just i'll just have to reinstall fink then :D
[12:32] <Fingolfinn> *guess
[12:33] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: disregard everything i told you except the ext2fs site (all my inst were for ubuntu on apple hardware)
[12:33] <Fingolfinn> oh shit
[12:33] <Fingolfinn> i might be able to do this in x-11
[12:33] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: doubtful, as the underneath OS is darwin, not linux
[12:34] <Fingolfinn> true
[12:34] <s_ean> stevas, that was just cold.
[12:34] <s_ean> but tis water under the bridge... we dont need problems here.
[12:34] <EasterSunshine> if X becomes unresponsive, then the ctrl+alt+f1 shell still will work, right?
[12:35] <Seveas> s_ean, ban avoiding is highly frowned upon...
[12:35] <IceDC571> any other shell should work
[12:35] <s_ean> meh, dont ban somone who inputs to the community then?
[12:35] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: it should, yes
[12:35] <arik> Seveas, i cant make it work. im a linux beginner
[12:35] <Seveas> then don't call people nazi
[12:35] <drudge> Can someone please help me with my wifi setup on ubuntu?
[12:35] <EasterSunshine> Xenguy: and if that shell becomes unresponsive?
[12:36] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine:  Alt-Ctrl-F2 etc.
[12:36] <Nuckin_Futs> Akbar: what exactly should i look for: when i want to access files on this pc with my other one it asked for a user name and password: i put my user name for this pc and pass and it doesnt log in
[12:36] <EasterSunshine> Xenguy: ...i have a bunch of shells lined up for me on my function keys?
[12:36] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: F1 to F6 normally
[12:37] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: X starts on F7 by default
[12:37] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: F1 to F6 are sometimes called 'consoles'
[12:38] <P4RR0T> How can I mount my Windows XP partitions (using the Live CD) to be able to access them while I'm not root?
[12:38] <EasterSunshine> Xenguy: can you refer me to a guide on x shortcuts?
[12:38] <nate_> Can anybody try this? http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[12:38] <EasterSunshine> P4RR0T: sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever /mount/point -t ntfs -o ro,umask=022
[12:38] <Seveas> P4RR0T: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[12:38] <Seveas> nate_, ubuntuguide is bad
[12:38] <nate_> I have edited the Sources and I'm trying to see if maybe the server is down.
[12:38] <EasterSunshine> P4RR0T: listen to seveas, his solution is better and easier
[12:38] <Xenguy> Seveas: really?
[12:39] <tristanmike> Is it possible to have an animated background/wallpaper?
[12:39] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: not offhand - are you just wanting to jump back and forth between console and X ?
[12:39] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: ubotu refers me to ubuntuguide sometimes, i think on installing java
[12:39] <nate_> I've neever had this problem before and have done the same thing at least 3 times.
[12:39] <Xenguy> Seveas: why do you say "ubuntuguide is bad" ?
[12:40] <EasterSunshine> Xenguy: i was playing around with some shortcuts, they seem to be able do some neat stuff, i just wanted to learn more for future reference
[12:40] <P4RR0T> But I'm using the Live CD, it would be easier for me to type in the command, rather than download the file each time...thanks a lot for the quick adivce
[12:40] <Seveas> !tell Xenguy about ubuntuguide
[12:40] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: I might have something bookmarked, sec...
[12:40] <nate_> Will somebody else try doing it so I can see if the server is down or something?
[12:41] <Xenguy> Seveas: OK, thanks for that - I'll have a closer look, but my first impression was that the Guide was pretty impressive
[12:41] <nalioth> Xenguy: it is: but not for newbies
[12:42] <nate_> Will someone please help?
[12:42] <nate_> And why is the guide bad?
[12:43] <ManiacMac> Anyone here been able to get the ATI 8.14.x driver to work on Hoary?
[12:43] <WhiteRabbit> if someone doesn't understand what effects some packages may have on the system it could lead to harmful effects
[12:43] <nate_> Someone PLEASE try this?
[12:43] <BTJustice> Can I enable root to log into KDE Kubuntu?
[12:43] <WhiteRabbit> & then they might try to turn on the guide & blame it for there mistakes
[12:44] <nate_>  http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[12:44] <Seveas> nate_, it does not work
[12:44] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is bad
[12:44] <ManiacMac> BTJustice: yes, sudo passwd
[12:44] <Seveas> and hoary-estras repositories are flaky
[12:44] <Seveas> grab a java deb from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:44] <IceDC571> i forgot about ubuntuguide... who needs it when you have the forums with howtos and a lot of support
[12:44] <IceDC571> and this channel
[12:44] <BTJustice> ManiacMac: It tried that, but it still won;t allow me to log in as root at the KDE login screen.
[12:44] <Seveas> ...and the wiki
[12:44] <nate_> THANK YOU!
[12:45] <richardk> hey i need some help on something
[12:45] <butcherbird> BTJustice: sudo su then passwd ::ducks::
[12:45] <ManiacMac> i think its an option in KDM then
[12:45] <kikdijon> re
[12:45] <richardk> i have a .bz2 file i want to open in the terminal
[12:45] <ManiacMac> check in there
[12:45] <nate_> Which one should I get?
[12:45] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: are you a developer for ubuntu?
[12:45] <ManiacMac> sorry, I'm a gnome guy ;)
[12:45] <richardk> can you tell me how to do it
[12:45] <kikdijon> oups, no french chanel!
[12:45] <kikdijon> sorry, bye
[12:45] <richardk> and i want to extract the file
[12:45] <pcharky> Hell, E17 & composite rock! :)  check the screenshots: http://www.klaroon.nl
[12:46] <EasterSunshine> kikdijon: #ubuntu-fr ?
[12:46] <kikdijon> yes, i've just made a mistake while typing
[12:47] <EasterSunshine> richardk: the tar command will do it after you pass some options to it
[12:47] <kikdijon> good night everybody
[12:47] <richardk> ok what options do i have to pass
[12:47] <chavo> pcharky, it's not composite. E does it's own shadows.
[12:47] <NoUse> richardk tar -jvxf file.tar.bz2
[12:47] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, no
[12:47] <Seveas> (re: developer)
[12:47] <pcharky> chavo: transparency is....
[12:48] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: hmm...sry i think i asked this before...you just know soo much its crazy
[12:48] <chavo> aha, I haven't looked at the shots yet
[12:48] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: this URL pertains to debian, but most of it should be useful; I'm not sure if it is exactly what you were looking for, but FWIW :-) http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
[12:48] <nate_> can you send why ubuntu guide is bad?
[12:48] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[12:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[12:48] <IceDC571> it is from one person and there is no support
[12:48] <Seveas> ^-- nate_
[12:48] <pcharky> chavo: plaase do :)
[12:48] <Seveas> and the instructions are crap
[12:48] <ManiacMac> Well, anyway, I went through several howtos trying to figure out how to get fglrx working, no avail on any of them.  I get a "(EE) fglrx(0): incompatable kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work" at startup of X
[12:49] <nate_> thanks
[12:49] <Xenguy> nate_: Seveas is arguing that the guide can be confusing to newbies (IIUC)
[12:49] <chavo> pcharky, I am now. I've got e-17 installed here also :)
[12:49] <nate_> o_O
[12:49] <tristanmike> When I first saw ubuntuguide I almost cried
[12:49] <Seveas> Xenguy, it cannot be because it explains nothing :)
[12:49] <CookedGryphon> I have beep-media-player and w32codecs, and i ahve rhythmbox, still neither of them play wma files, mplayer does, tho it doesn't ahve a proper playlist option, help!
[12:49] <Seveas> it's just a stupid list of stupid instrictions
[12:49] <chavo> mmy connection is slow right now. verizon evdo and don't want to reconnect at the moment
[12:49] <Xenguy> Seveas: OK, I'm going to take a second look now :-)
[12:49] <tristanmike> I was like "Well, Linux, not yet"
[12:49] <nate_> it works for me =\
[12:50] <tristanmike> But have since changed my tune about Linux tho =)
[12:50] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, you need a separate plugin for wma in beep
[12:50] <Seveas> thythmbox cannot play wma
[12:50] <Seveas> totem can if you use the totem-xine backend
[12:50] <CookedGryphon> lol then y did everyone tell me to dl w32cod3ecs, what DO they work in?
[12:51] <Seveas> mplayer and totem-xine :)
[12:51] <IceDC571> Seveas is right
[12:51] <IceDC571> anything that has a xine backend it'll work in too
[12:51] <CookedGryphon> ah rite, what do i need for beep to play wmas then,. i'm fed up with trying to get mplayer to work lol
[12:52] <Seveas> sec..
[12:52] <blumenhalter> mieder
[12:52] <cafuego> Seveas: fanks
[12:52] <Seveas> s/is/iss/
[12:52] <cafuego> that's box #4 :-)
[12:52] <Seveas> caught a cold?
[12:53] <cafuego> cold + sinus infection
[12:53] <tristanmike> boo
[12:53] <Seveas> eek
[12:55] <michele> hmm why does my num-lock led doesn't work when in X? in console it is fine. (this is a thinkpad)
[12:55] <richardk> ok i have another question
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, any ideas on wma in beep?
[12:55] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, working on it
[12:55] <Seveas> are you on x86?
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> thanks
[12:55] <richardk> im trying to use dd on a .img file
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> yeah i am
[12:56] <richardk> and i need to know how to do that
[12:56] <michele> in place of the led I hear high and low-pitched beeps when num-lock is activated/deactivate
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> also, anybody got any tips on the best type of laptop to get to be compatible with linux?
[12:56] <SweetDreams> guys ive done everything that's on ubuntuguide.ord "Q: How to configure sound to work properly in GNOME?" and still dont hear any sounds, anyone can please help me?
[12:56] <SweetDreams> org that is
[12:56] <richardk> the file is tiger-x86-flat.img
[12:56] <Seveas> SweetDreams, that part of ubuntuguide is on crack
[12:56] <Seveas> even more than the rest...
[12:56] <EasterSunshine> SweetDreams: do not use ubuntuguide is does not work
[12:56] <Seveas> undo all you did
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> cos i'm getting a laptop to go away to uni, what kinda specs do u reckon to run ubuntu including near future updates comfortably?
[12:57] <mihai> does ubuntu 5.04 install play divx files out of the box ?
[12:57] <cafuego> Sounds like an osx86 issue
[12:57] <Seveas> and read wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugingSoundProblems
[12:57] <cafuego> mihai: no
[12:57] <mihai> cafuego: how gay is that, sigh
[12:57] <SweetDreams> thank u man
[12:57] <michele> CookedGryphon: most thinkpads work fine. the only problem you'd have is with the newest ati cards wich won't get HW acceleration
[12:57] <EasterSunshine> mihai: but there is a codec for divx somewhere in the repos
[12:57] <cafuego> mihai: I don't know, my machine has never had sex
[12:57] <debiz> CookedGryphon: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[12:57] <michele> CookedGryphon: I have a T52 and it's fine. My gf has a T42 and it's perfect
[12:58] <butcherbird> mihai: just install vlc
[12:58] <Xenguy> Seveas: hrm, IMHO it is reasonable to warn newbies that Ubuntuguide is not oriented towards total newbies, but I don't think it makes sense to warn everyone off the guide entirely.  There are some nice tips and tricks in there that can be useful to many people.  YMMV  :-)
[12:58] <CookedGryphon> thanks
[12:58] <Seveas> Xenguy, the mileage varies too much for the thing to be useful
[12:59] <Nuckin_Futs> how do i take out the user name and password needed by other pc to access my pc?
[12:59] <P8ntKid> What IRC clients do you all use?
[12:59] <Xenguy> Seveas: I think the statement "Ubuntuguide is bad" is far too extreme.  Again, just my humble opinion.
[01:00] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, access in what way?
[01:00] <EasterSunshine> whoa...you can run two or more x servers simultaneousy?
[01:00] <SweetDreams> seveas can u plz give me again the wiki ubuntu site coz it tells me it doesnt exist
[01:00] <Xenguy> P8ntKid: irssi-text here
[01:00] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: of course
[01:00] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:00] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: with Xnet you can run one IN another one, too.
[01:00] <cafuego> Xnest even
[01:00] <Seveas> SoundProblemsHoary is also a nice tips'n'tricks  page
[01:00] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: shared files
[01:00] <SweetDreams> both with and without www it tells me it doesnt exist :/
[01:00] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, samba?
[01:00] <P8ntKid> Xenguy, Can i PM you?
[01:00] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: yes
[01:00] <EasterSunshine> cafuego: and alt+f7 and up swtich the x server?
[01:00] <Seveas> set access to shared
[01:01] <Xenguy> P8ntKid: if it is necessary
[01:01] <Nuckin_Futs> seveas: how
[01:01] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: That depends on where you've got them displaying to, but normally: yes.
[01:01] <Seveas> in /etc/samba/smbd.conf
[01:01] <tristanmike> debiz, awsome laptop site, thanx
[01:01] <Nuckin_Futs> ok....
[01:01] <BollocksMacenzie> How does the Keyboard Shortcuts list work... Can I add 1 for the Applications drop-down?
[01:01] <EasterSunshine> cafuego: before i try this, would you know if i can login to my user in both kde and gnome simulatneously and what dangers it encompasses?
[01:02] <DekaPink> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1564 This happens when mplayer finishes playing a file.
[01:02] <Seveas> BollocksMacenzie, no, but you can set custom commands and hotkeys in gconf-editor
[01:02] <Seveas> look for the gconf keys  apps/metacity/*
[01:02] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: Should be fne; it might whine about files arleady existing, though
[01:03] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, still here?
[01:03] <CookedGryphon> Do i need to set up any kind of antivirus with linux? cos i#'ve seen em about, av programs for linux, but no distros come with em as default that i've seen
[01:03] <CookedGryphon> yeah i am
[01:03] <CookedGryphon> waiting patiently
[01:03] <Agrajag> most av programs for linux scan for viruses on windows machiens
[01:03] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Normally AV on Linux is sued to scan emails that will be retrived by windows clients.
[01:03] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: You won't need AV for Linux itself.
[01:03] <CookedGryphon> cool
[01:04] <CookedGryphon> thanks, it jstu confused me cos i thought, linux no viruses, so y would there be antiviruses
[01:04] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: this part?        "security = user" is always a good idea. This will require a Unix account
[01:04] <Nuckin_Futs> # in this server for every user accessing the server. See
[01:04] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: linux has AV available for those of us who want to protect our windows using brethren
[01:04] <Seveas> yup Nuckin_Futs
[01:05] <Nuckin_Futs> security = shared?
[01:05] <Seveas> correct
[01:05] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, almost there...
[01:05] <Nuckin_Futs> thx
[01:05] <CookedGryphon> nalioth, surely we want to leave them to fend for themselves, and realise the error of their ways
[01:05] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, thanks, its appreciated when you get tehre.. r u writing it ureself or what? lol
[01:05] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: I'd love to, but they pay the rent...
[01:05] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: some of our mothers won't use linux
[01:05] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, I'm making a simple checkinstall package for it
[01:06] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, you are a god!
[01:06] <CookedGryphon> in ubuntu circles at least
[01:06] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: it still asks for a user name and password?
[01:07] <orlok> hey
[01:07] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, restart samba...
[01:07] <orlok> i want to move my ubuntu install to a new PC
[01:07] <Nuckin_Futs> ok
[01:07] <orlok> as the new kernel supports the sata controller on it
[01:08] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, look at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl for the deb
[01:08] <Seveas> please let me know whether it works (I did not test it yet)
[01:08] <CookedGryphon> okay, thanks
[01:09] <CookedGryphon> okay
[01:09] <siucdude> hello'
[01:10] <siucdude> i just have a simple question but can't figure out how to fix this
[01:10] <Seveas> ask away :)
[01:10] <siucdude> my ibm usb mouse the wheel does not work
[01:10] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: what was the terminal command for restarting samba again ( i forgot)
[01:10] <EasterSunshine> what is the command for locating a file across my / filesystem?
[01:11] <Seveas> slocate
[01:11] <EasterSunshine> thx
[01:11] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[01:11] <nalioth> thought it was just plain "locate"
[01:11] <EasterSunshine> yeah, i don't have slocate installed
[01:11] <Seveas> nalioth, in ubuntu locate is a symlink to slocate
[01:11] <Chris_Lappy> whats the ubuntuguide link to the app for automounting ntfs and fat32 partitions?
[01:11] <Seveas> that's not an ubuntuguide link
[01:11] <nalioth> Chris_Lappy: you dont want that
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> yes, i do
[01:12] <nalioth> Chris_Lappy: get the one from Seveas
[01:12] <Seveas> the automounting thing is written by me
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> ive used it before its quite nice
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> oh
[01:12] <Seveas> not by crappy ubuntuguide :)
[01:12] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: uh, it stil askes for login
[01:12] <searcher`> has anyone managed to get the microphone working in skype, under ubuntu?
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> got a weblink?
[01:12] <Seveas> Chris_Lappy: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[01:12] <nalioth> Seveas: credit where it's due, ahem
[01:12] <nalioth> heh heh
[01:12] <searcher`> i can listen to calls, the mic is working over the speakerset
[01:12] <EasterSunshine> well locate is a whole lot faster that ls -la | grep whatever
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> oh ubuntulinux.nl is where you pointed me before
[01:12] <searcher`> but nothing gets sent
[01:13] <EasterSunshine> ls -laR / | grep whatever even
[01:13] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: 'locate' does not have an up-to-date database though.
[01:13] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: find . -name "*string*" would be more traditional than an 'ls'
[01:14] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, you might need to add some 'guest ok = yes' statements to your shares
[01:14] <zukalk> does anyone experience Zinf random crashes?
[01:14] <Hadriel> hey, anyone can help me abou t how i can compile the linux kernel?
[01:14] <Seveas> Hadriel: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[01:15] <Hadriel> thanks
[01:15] <SweetDreams> is it so difficult to hear sound? gosh
[01:15] <phantom> hi people
[01:15] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: THogh you'll be mightily impressed when yuou find beagle
[01:16] <phantom> how do I switch workspaces with with the keyboard?
[01:16] <phantom> gnome
[01:16] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: yea there was this like guesk ok = yes but it was commented, i uncomented and restarted samba but still askes for login
[01:17] <Seveas> phantom, look for your current hotkeys in system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[01:17] <cafuego> du -sh ~/.beagle/Log -> 328M
[01:17] <cafuego> ack
[01:17] <kevor> lsdkf
[01:17] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, then read the docs, i wouldn't know more than this (I tend to keep things secure...)
[01:17] <Velox> Sound is just like any other device, but they advance rather quickly.
[01:17] <NoUse> phantom it defaults to Ctrl+Alt and the arrows
[01:17] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, Thanks dude! it works, i say again u are a god!
[01:17] <kevor> or.. they've protected it :P
[01:17] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, thanks for the report :)
[01:17] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: ok, thx for ur time
[01:17] <Stormx> I have a package that isn't available as a deb. Can I use a command to make it into a deb? Compiling these things can be a hassle....
[01:18] <phantom> cool thanks
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> lol one more question though, is there any way to add files recursively or do i have to go into each folder and select all .. etc.?
[01:18] <amonkey> hey, i need some help with some sql. anyone know a good channel for that?
[01:18] <Seveas> Stormx, what do you have? sources/rpm/tgz?
[01:18] <Hadriel> another doubt: im trying to run amarok on gnome, but it says before opening that the device sound is busy. how can i solve it?
[01:18] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, wouldn't know that :)
[01:18] <Stormx> Seveas:tgz
[01:18] <phantom> And can someone please recomend an MP3 player? Also need a program to convert my CDs to mp3
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> ah well, thanks neway
[01:18] <Seveas> Stormx, alien may work
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> but u know everything!
[01:19] <Stormx> Seveas: How do I use alien?
[01:19] <CookedGryphon> phantom, beep-media-player's quite nice
[01:19] <nate_> Anybody know why I can't get sound through Windows Media Player through CrossOver Office?
[01:19] <zukalk> !alien
[01:19] <ubotu> I guess alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:19] <Seveas> alien blabla.tgz
[01:19] <ero-senni> dam i hate it that i can't play doom3 on this system
[01:19] <ero-senni> dam ati!
[01:19] <Stormx> Seveas: Thanks, I'll give it a go.
[01:19] <ero-senni> dam it to hell
[01:19] <phantom> CookedGryphon can I just get it off the repository????
[01:19] <ero-senni> next time im buying a nvidia
[01:19] <Seveas> phantom, b-m-p is in universe
[01:20] <nate_> Or would anybody know of a way to make the system think another player is Windows Media player so when I go to see a music video that requires Windows Media player, I can view it through another player/
[01:20] <nate_> *?
[01:20] <CookedGryphon>  phantom yep
[01:20] <Seveas> so bye all, cee you tomorrow :)
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, where ru ? what timezone?
[01:20] <phantom> Thanks.. so I use the normal get install command to get it? How do I see what's available in the universe????
[01:21] <benjamin1254> how do u install macromedia flash player for firefox... 4 that matter even how do u get it so it auto installs?
[01:21] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, it's 1:21 am (NL)
[01:21] <cafuego> benjamin1254: x86?
[01:21] <benjamin1254> yes
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> ah, i'm only an hour behind u
[01:21] <Stormx> Seveas: "synce-rra_0.9.1-2_all.deb generated" but where? I ran a search and its not there......
[01:21] <ero-senni> !tellabout flash
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> and I'm tired
[01:21] <NoUse> !flash
[01:21] <ubotu> flash is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:21] <ero-senni> bastards
[01:21] <ero-senni> :-P
[01:22] <cafuego> benjamin1254: install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:22] <richardk> how do turn a .img file into a .iso file
[01:22] <richardk> can you do that
[01:22] <ero-senni> yes richardk
[01:22] <richardk> ok how do you do it
[01:22] <nate_> Does anybody know of a way to play music videos with a linux media player instead of Windows media player?
[01:22] <ero-senni> let me find that program again
[01:22] <ero-senni> hold on
[01:22] <richardk> other than renaming the file
[01:22] <nalioth> Stormx: you may have to update your locate database
[01:22] <richardk> i need a legit .iso file
[01:22] <CookedGryphon> phantom u need to edit you sources.list file
[01:22] <NoUse> nate_ mplayer can probably do it
[01:23] <dalamar> img2iso wont work if its a dvd image, I just went through that earlier today
[01:23] <Stormx> nalioth: Ah ha. How?
[01:23] <dalamar> richardk, to burn or?
[01:23] <nalioth> Stormx: at a terminal prompt, type "sudo updatedb"
[01:23] <ero-senni> i think is it KISO?
[01:23] <richardk> yeah
[01:23] <richardk> to a cd
[01:23] <phantom> CookedGryphon, I think I've done that. to get more sources right?
[01:23] <Akwa|user> um hey
[01:23] <richardk> its 550 mb
[01:23] <ero-senni> richardk, kiso
[01:23] <benjamin1254> what is the url for the newbie script?
[01:24] <dalamar> richardk, k3b will burn a .img as well
[01:24] <ero-senni> its on the forum
[01:24] <Fackamato> hoi, is it "safe" to use the next ubuntu now? the one after hoary (can't figure out the name right now)
[01:24] <phantom> CookedGryphon, so is there anywhere to show us a list of apps available and commands to install them? Apart from the ubuntuguide?????
[01:24] <CookedGryphon> yeah phantom
[01:24] <Fackamato> I mean, is all the C transition done etc?
[01:24] <Stormx> nalioth: Alright, its doing it now.
[01:24] <dooglus_> hi everyone.  I'm looking for a bittorrent client to replace azeurus.  something with a small memory footprint would be good.
[01:24] <CookedGryphon> aptitude
[01:24] <CookedGryphon> or synaptic
[01:24] <Akwa|user> nalioth: I installed ex2 on my compute... it won't advance past the apple logo now
[01:24] <richardk> but can i boot it when i start my computer
[01:24] <dooglus_> azeurus is currently using 455Mb to download just 5 torrents...
[01:24] <cafuego> Xappe: No wireless support
[01:24] <dalamar> richardk, as long as its a bootable cd sure
[01:24] <nalioth> Xappe: which date is colony-3? i tried a 22aug05 daily on my imac and it killed the whole box
[01:24] <ero-senni> yea install k3b to burn the iso
[01:24] <NoUse> dooglus_ have you tried the standard client?
[01:24] <Stormx> dooglus_: I know the feeling.
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> but u should b able to install it by saying apt-get install beep-media-player
[01:25] <ero-senni> richardk, do sudo apt-get install k3b
[01:25] <ero-senni> then use k3b to burn the nrg
[01:25] <ero-senni> :-)
[01:25] <Xappe> cafuego: I have no wireless
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> oh or is it under bmp... on esec
[01:25] <dooglus_> NoUse: I'd like a client to remember the torrents between runs, to offer queueing, or at least multiple downloads at once.
[01:25] <Akwa|user> nalioth: I'm kinda up shit creek without a paddle now, this really sucks
[01:25] <cafuego> Xappe: That's easy then :-)
[01:25] <nalioth> Akwa|user: what is the hardware and OS version you are running?
[01:25] <Stormx> CookedGryphon: Synaptic is a good idea.
[01:25] <Akwa|user> oh sorry this is fingolfin
[01:25] <richardk> i have k3b
[01:25] <dooglus_> I only have 384Mb of RAM - and azeurus is using it all and more.
[01:25] <Xappe> nalioth: I don't really know...but i'm erasing everything anyway, so a failure is not a big issue to me
[01:25] <richardk> this is the file name
[01:26] <CookedGryphon> phantom, it is beep-media-player
[01:26] <dooglus_> it's really slowing everything else down to a crawl.
[01:26] <richardk> tiger-x86-flat.img
[01:26] <CookedGryphon> or run synaptic and search for beep
[01:26] <Stormx> yes
[01:26] <Stormx> do that
[01:26] <richardk> i need to know if i can turn this into a iso file
[01:26] <nalioth> Xappe: ok. my G5 imac was rendered useless by the daily disk, but as long as yours is running
[01:26] <richardk> i want to install this on my pc
[01:26] <ero-senni> i finally understood how to convert vcd to mpg under linux
[01:26] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: yeah, my computer's wasted now =(
[01:26] <richardk> so i need for it to be a iso file on disc
[01:26] <ero-senni> download vcdgear for linux
[01:26] <dalamar> richardk, in k3b, go under tools, burn cd image, then when you click to search for the iso make sure instead of just looking for iso9660 you select it took look for 'all files' and click on it, should burn fine
[01:27] <ero-senni> and :-)
[01:27] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: do you have ubuntu installed on it?
[01:27] <ero-senni> i didn't ti even exist
[01:27] <Xappe> nalioth: we'll se in a couple of minutes I guess :)
[01:27] <ero-senni> well vcdgera for linux that is
[01:27] <ero-senni> gear*
[01:27] <Fingolfinn> no lol, i can't do shit all, it freezes at startup
[01:27] <Crube> Hey I'm using KDE (Installed Kubuntu) and I was wondering if there's and easy to switch to GNOME. I can isntall Gnome andall but what's bothering me is that I see the programs from both KDE and GNOME in my programs list and it's annoying :D
[01:27] <phantom> CookedGryphon, So I enter: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player ?????
[01:27] <CookedGryphon> phantom, yes
[01:27] <Fingolfinn> i can't even view the kernel boot
[01:27] <phantom> Thanks mate
[01:27] <ero-senni> Crube, make a new login
[01:27] <Stormx> phantom: Yes, in terminal.
[01:27] <ero-senni> i mean like create a new user
[01:27] <CookedGryphon> np
[01:27] <ero-senni> and run it in gnome only
[01:27] <ero-senni> i would figure...?
[01:28] <Stormx> sudo updatedb is taking forever.......
[01:28] <pr1sm> Hi, I have a creative sound blaster mp3+, and it is recognized by ubuntu in the device manager, but ubuntu doesnt seem to be set to use it. There is a blue light on it that flashes when it is outputting a noise, however this does not flash, SO I know it isnt a silly mute problem, can anybody help me with this please
[01:28] <richardk> it says its not a usable image
[01:28] <phantom> is there a page apart from the Ubuntuguide.org with a litst of applications in the Universe????
[01:28] <richardk> what does that mean
[01:29] <Crube> ero-senni:  ok I'll try that :) Currently I'm using kde, but I use programs from gnome like Synaptic and Gaim couse I really hate the kynaptic and kopete
[01:29] <Rangitoto> I want to install Ubuntu on an HP computer which won't boot from its non-HP CD-ROM drive. Any suggestions?
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> Crube: why not use gnome with some kde programs then?
[01:29] <arik> hello: can u give me again the website for the screen resolution configuration
[01:29] <Xappe> nalioth: and by useless you mean, totally useless or you're still able to reinstall hoary for example?
[01:29] <nalioth> Rangitoto: boot floppy
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> !resolution
[01:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:29] <Crube> HrdwrBoB:  that was what I was planning on doing
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> Crube: cool
[01:29] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: sacrilige!
[01:30] <nalioth> Xappe: as in the cd wouldnt boot, and when i started OSX, it kernel panicked upon reaching the desktop trying to read the install cd (no way to eject it easily)
[01:30] <cafuego> That's like using DOS programs under WIndows!
[01:30] <arik> thsaks
[01:30] <nalioth> Xappe: and i can't get ANY linux to install on my G5 imac
[01:30] <cafuego> nalioth: hold down teh eject key (or F12) when hitting reset will eject teh cd.
[01:30] <Rangitoto> nalioth: I thought of creating a boot floppy using another computer but I was unable to find out how to create one.
[01:30] <Xappe> nalioth: ooops
[01:31] <Fackamato> OK.
[01:31] <Fackamato> what's the next ubuntu version called?
[01:31] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i really appreciate your help, i think i might have some success, but now my computer's totally fucked
[01:31] <Fackamato> and can I run it farily stable at the moment?
[01:31] <phantom> Thanks People.. Your help was great.
[01:31] <cafuego> nalioth: The Hoary PPC LiveCD got as far as scanning for disks here.
[01:31] <dooglus_> Fackamato: breezy
[01:31] <Fackamato> ok.
[01:31] <Fackamato> is breezy usable now?
[01:31] <Fackamato> is all the C transition gone?
[01:31] <Fackamato> to gcc 4 etc.
[01:31] <dooglus_> Fackamato: I've been using it without many problems for 3 months or so
[01:31] <nalioth> cafuego: i tried that, and holding the mouse button, and all that. it didnt eject. had to call apple (new G5 imacs don't have the eject hole for the optical drives)
[01:31] <Fackamato> dooglus_ great, thanks for the answer
[01:32] <dooglus_> Fackamato: there are still lots of updates.
[01:32] <pr1sm>  Hi, I have a creative sound blaster mp3+, and it is recognized by ubuntu in the device manager, but ubuntu doesnt seem to be set to use it. There is a blue light on it that flashes when it is outputting a noise, however this does not flash, SO I know it isnt a silly mute problem, can anybody help me with this pleas
[01:32] <cafuego> nalioth: *nod* Odd though, worked OK when mum-in-law's G5 hung
[01:32] <siucdude> can anyone help please
[01:32] <dooglus_> I updated today and it downloaded over 300Mb of stuff in 300 packages.
[01:32] <Fackamato> dooglus_ hehe okay
[01:32] <nalioth> Rangitoto: wiki.ubuntu.com will help you with that. see user documentation
[01:32] <Stormx> This sucks...
[01:32] <cafuego> nalioth: swap that G5 for four mac minis and run Linux on them (and cluster them :-)
[01:32] <nalioth> cafuego: my stuff is always problematic
[01:33] <siucdude> i have googled way to long for this
[01:33] <Stormx> alien says it is generating a .deb package, when it certainly isn't.
[01:33] <Xappe> nalioth: well, I have an ibook g3, maybe i'll have better luck...colony-3 is august 17
[01:33] <cafuego> Xappe: clamshell? they *will* run hoary just fine, should breezy fail.
[01:33] <nalioth> Xappe: you got it goin on, then. Everything about the G3s is known to devs
[01:34] <Xappe> cafuego: I know...i've been running hoary on it since april or something like that
[01:34] <dooglus_> siucdude: what's the problem?
[01:34] <Xappe> cafuego: not clamshell, a white g3 700
[01:34] <Stormx> Anyone got any ideas?
[01:35] <Stormx> I'll go put my output in pastebin...
[01:35] <siucdude> i had a xorg prblem this morning fixed it and now i updated the rest of the system and the only thing that is buging me is my mouse wheel is not on
[01:35] <cafuego> Xappe: Oh, I didn't realise they made those in G3 flavour :-)
[01:35] <siucdude> thank you dooglus for offer to help
[01:35] <Xappe> cafuego: :)
[01:36] <dooglus_> siucdude: I've not seen my mouse for over 5 weeks now.   It says it has generated a package, but its not there........
[01:38] <SolidRaven> i might try without loading it into the kernel
[01:38] <wae2go> hey all did the backports url change again?
[01:39] <cafuego> SolidRaven: by loading a driver? Not likely unless the system died when writing to the kernel file.
[01:39] <wae2go> !backports
[01:39] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[01:39] <cafuego> (and it shouldn't be doing that after booting)
[01:39] <SolidRaven> cafuego > the system freezed and i needed to reset it
[01:39] <wae2go> !extras
[01:39] <ubotu> somebody said extras was For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:39] <SolidRaven> ubuntu loads perfectly tough :p
[01:39] <cafuego> SolidRaven: Then the kernel is fine and the windoze driver is the problem.
[01:40] <cafuego> SolidRaven: It's probably badly written and is making the kernel gpf when it probes hardware. it happens.... shitty but true.
[01:40] <NanoBCN> hi there
[01:40] <CookedGryphon> how many different keywaords does ubotu respond to?
[01:40] <cafuego> !usage
[01:40] <ubotu> You can find out how to operate ubotu on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:40] <cafuego> SolidRaven: Got a pcmcia slot?
[01:41] <CookedGryphon> lol
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: if it's a laptop, the card is likely minipci
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> get a replacement minipci card, no need for a bulky pcmcia card
[01:41] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: yes, but that's not my question :-)
[01:41] <cafuego> Well, true.
[01:42] <mcphail> SolidRaven: I had a similar problem with ndiswrapper. Everything worked when I tried an alternantive windows driver for my card.
[01:44] <IceDC571> i hate websites running on asp or windows
[01:44] <IceDC571> they always have maintenance
[01:45] <morbidi> IceDC571: why ?
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> heh asp
[01:45] <morbidi> IceDC571: ?
[01:45] <IceDC571> i see nothing but errors
[01:45] <IceDC571> or.. runtime error
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> IceDC571: it's ok, they make people (also microsoft) a buttload of cash
[01:45] <morbidi> IceDC571: bad programers
[01:45] <wae2go> well I'll check backlater cuz Icant find java anywhere
[01:45] <IceDC571> anyone know of myspace?
[01:45] <morbidi> nope
[01:45] <zaphands> Hello. I want to setup 2 network cards. One for the internet and one for local network. Both cards are working saperately but not together. What can I do?
[01:45] <SolidRaven> no cafuego
[01:45] <SolidRaven> i don't have pcmcia slot
[01:45] <benkong2> is there a way i can install ndiswrapper in a new kernel while running another? I upgraded kernel but ubuntu crashes because ndiswrapper gives a fatal error.
[01:45] <morbidi> zaphands: pci ?
[01:45] <SolidRaven> this is a crappy pc chips motherboard
[01:46] <morbidi> ethernet ?
[01:46] <cafuego> SolidRaven: As HrdwrBoB suggested, see if you can get your hands on a decent minipci card
[01:46] <zaphands> morbidi: 1 pci 2 on-board.
[01:46] <zaphands> morbidi: the cards are detected and use different interrupts.
[01:46] <BollocksMacenzie> Seveas: The Application menu has it's own shortcut in the end... It's called "Show the Panel Menu" instead... I.e. Alt+F1
[01:46] <SolidRaven> cafuego > i can't realy aford that now because i am already upgrading my pc
[01:46] <morbidi> zaphands: sudo ifconfig -a
[01:46] <SolidRaven> :(
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> SolidRaven: or,  if you have a friend with a wifi card, swap
[01:47] <cafuego> SolidRaven: Then upgrading it with decent hardware might be a good idea
[01:47] <SolidRaven> cafuego > i am upgrading the motherboard + cpu
[01:47] <SolidRaven> its like a crapy celeron 1.1ghz
[01:47] <SolidRaven> do you get why i upgrade :p
[01:47] <zaphands> morbidi: I have IPs for both. but the internet is working from the same device as the local area network.
[01:47] <morbidi> zaphands: ?
[01:47] <morbidi> what ?
[01:47] <cafuego> SolidRaven: Even cheap mobos these days come with half-decent (realtek) network
[01:47] <morbidi> zaphands: explain yourself
[01:47] <SolidRaven> its like a 6 year old mobo
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> zaphands: you need to be clearer about the network
[01:48] <cafuego> SolidRaven: My 6-y-old Dual p2 runs fine, no need to upgrade that.
[01:48] <zaphands> morbidi: I want to use eth0 for my cable modem (it uses DHCP) and eth1 for local area network.
[01:48] <morbidi> zaphands: sure
[01:48] <morbidi> use it
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: there's always a need :)
[01:48] <morbidi> dhcpcd eth0
[01:48] <morbidi> ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:48] <Stormx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344533 - help? It says it has generated a package, but its not there........
[01:48] <wfry> can anyone help with getting GUI up on a gateway m250
[01:48] <morbidi> ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> I'm decomissioning the dual p2 nameserver here - it's too old and I can't rely on the hardware
[01:48] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: True, but even then buying low-quality only means you'll be buying additional hardware for years to come
[01:49] <morbidi> done
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> true
[01:49] <[EasterSunshine] > when i move my mouse over glxgears, it flickers, anyone else have that problem?
[01:49] <zaphands> morbidi: I can see both IPs of eth0 and eth1 on ifconfig.
[01:49] <SolidRaven> cafuego > for what i am doing this comp is not enough
[01:49] <SolidRaven> it takes ages to compile that game engine
[01:49] <Stormx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344533 - help? It says it has generated a package, but its not there........
[01:49] <zaphands> morbidi: but the internet is used from eth1 instead of eth0.
[01:49] <morbidi> zaphands: sudo ifconfig -a | grep inet
[01:50] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: The only time mine has crashed was in 1998; when it turned out the rtl8139 driver and CONFIG_SMP and the aic788x driver were not friends (and scsi crapped out when using > 50% bandwidth)
[01:50] <brainz> all, Hi i'm a newbie,  i just installed ubuntu linux and the problem is i cant read and write into my fat32 , my fstab entry reads like this /dev/hda8       /data           vfat    defaults        0       0
[01:50] <brainz>  i tried to read the manual, searched in the forum but nothing helped
[01:50] <EasterSunshine> ns identify jhjhjhjh
[01:50] <kemik> Stormx:  dont think you can run alien on tarballs
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: ouch
[01:50] <morbidi> zaphands: what's the big deal ?
[01:50] <mcphail> zaphands: I don't understand these things, but would "man route" help?
[01:50] <kemik> Stormx:  untar the file first?
[01:50] <Stormx> kemik: Hmm, seveas said you could.
[01:50] <CookedGryphon> brainz, u need to set the permissions
[01:50] <Akbar> EasterSunshine not really
[01:50] <Stormx> kemik: Into a folder?
[01:51] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: it's been stable for nigh on 6 years since the addition of two e100s though
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: while I don't expect them to fail, my job consists of keeping things working, and in that vein, I think I'll ditch them :)
[01:51] <morbidi> mcphail: no
[01:51] <Stormx> kemik: tried.
[01:51] <brainz> CookedGryphon, how?
[01:51] <Akbar> but can xcompmgr work with fglrx?
[01:51] <morbidi> zaphands: do you need eth0 in dhcpcd mode ?
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> my server at home is a dual p3 933 with IDE linux raid5
[01:51] <kemik> Stormx:  . hmm yea looks like it's extracting it
[01:51] <zaphands>  I see my eth0 IP.
[01:51] <brainz> CookedGryphon, chmod? or groups?
[01:51] <morbidi> zaphands: I mean REALLY NEED
[01:51] <cafuego> You don't want to know what my server at home is <heh>
[01:51] <kemik> Stormx:  are you sure it's a .rpm inside the file and not sourcecodE?
[01:51] <CookedGryphon> u can do it in ftab
[01:52] <CookedGryphon> sry jsut a min, i will help u in a min, jsut my gf's saying summat improtant
[01:52] <Stormx> kemik: Its not an RPM.
[01:52] <SolidRaven> oh well going to try "sudo ifup wlan0" for once tomorow
[01:52] <SolidRaven> never know it might actualy work
[01:52] <zaphands> morbidi: yes I do.
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: so old or so overpowered?
[01:52] <Stormx> kemik: I'd imagine its source, then?
[01:52] <morbidi> zaphands: ok
[01:52] <zaphands> morbidi: the modem works that way.
[01:52] <brainz> CookedGryphon, can you be please more specific please, thanks
[01:52] <SolidRaven> going to bed
[01:52] <Stormx> kemik: Thing is, it says it is creating it.
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> I have a friend who's building a dual dualcore opteron for his own personal fileserver
[01:52] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: The drives in the P2 are a bit old, what's why i added fresh 80G ide drives in raid1 on their own controller and wiped the 4.3GB scsi drives; they now run / in raid1 too (with a hot spare)
[01:52] <SolidRaven> its like 2o' clock in the middle of the night :p
[01:52] <morbidi> zaphands: dhcpcd eth1
[01:52] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Even if it DOEs do poo, I'll have some advanced warning.
[01:52] <morbidi> ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:52] <morbidi> same shit
[01:52] <zaphands> morbidi: command not found
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> yeah, always good to have warning
[01:53] <morbidi> zaphands: sudo
[01:53] <zaphands> morbidi: i'm root
[01:53] <morbidi>  /sbin/ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:53] <morbidi> you're going to loose irc
[01:54] <zaphands> morbidi: does it have to be that IP?
[01:54] <morbidi> zaphands: no
[01:54] <cafuego> thr only problem is that slot1 cpus with the two fans each get REAL loud
[01:54] <morbidi> zaphands: make sure it is an internal
[01:54] <cafuego> so it's banished to the shed ;-)
[01:54] <zaphands> eth1 is connected to a router which uses dhcp...
[01:54] <zaphands> morbidi: eth1 is connected to a router which uses dhcp...
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> haha that sucks
[01:54] <Stormx> Gah
[01:54] <Stormx> this sucks
[01:54] <morbidi> zaphands: sure
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> this is why I love my a64, then fan spends a lot of its time off
[01:55] <zaphands> morbidi: I'm still here :-)
[01:55] <kemik> Stormx:  didnt know alien could make .deb's out of sourcecode..
[01:55] <morbidi> I just don't understand why it is so important to have eth0 using dhcpcd and not eth1
[01:55] <Stormx> if anyone can tell me how to get my smartphone working in multisync I will be greatfull :)
[01:55] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Well, not as bad as you might think; the shed was wired up with cat5 two years ago, so its finally getting a run for its money <heh>
[01:55] <morbidi> zaphands: yep
[01:55] <Stormx> kemik: Meh, neither did I.
[01:55] <zaphands> morbidi: and I see eth1 up on ifconfig
[01:55] <Mats_> bonsoir
[01:55] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Yeah, I can't heard my amd64 over the sound of the P3 at all.
[01:56] <kemik> Stormx:  actually i dont think it can..
[01:56] <Stormx> I press "Sync" and multisync sits there and does absolutely nothing.
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:56] <CookedGryphon> brainz,  sorry u'll ahve to ask sujm1 else, i ahve to rush off
[01:56] <morbidi> zaphands: ok, once and for all
[01:56] <kemik> Stormx:  utnar the tarball and compile it as usual instead?
[01:56] <wfry> can anyone help me? I have a gateway m250 and the GUI won't work right
[01:56] <morbidi> you need to change the eth1 and eth0 services
[01:56] <brainz> all, Hi i'm a newbie,  i just installed ubuntu linux and the problem is i cant read and write into my fat32 , my fstab entry reads like this /dev/hda8       /data           vfat    defaults        0       0
[01:56] <morbidi> you have 3 network cards
[01:56] <Stormx> kemik: C++ Compiler can't create executables o.O
[01:56] <morbidi> right ?
[01:56] <sorush20> guys my Keyboard has stopped working in evolution can some one help.. I've restarted the program but its no use.. I don't know what to do I don't want to keep having to log out and back in ?
[01:56] <zaphands> morbidi: 2.
[01:57] <kemik> Stormx:  sure it can
[01:57] <morbidi> zaphands: one onboard and one pci
[01:57] <morbidi> ok
[01:57] <reiki> I have a suspicion that Evolution is stripping the spamassassin headers off my email :)
[01:57] <zaphands> morbidi: yes
[01:57] <morbidi> ok...
[01:57] <Stormx> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[01:57] <Stormx> See `config.log' for more details.
[01:57] <morbidi> now
[01:57] <morbidi> which is which ?
[01:57] <zaphands> morbidi: eth0 is connected to modem (DHCP)
[01:57] <morbidi> eth1 currently is on dhcp ?
[01:57] <morbidi> ah
[01:57] <morbidi> ok
[01:57] <morbidi> sure
[01:57] <zaphands> morbidi: eth1 is connected to router (LAN, uses DHCP)
[01:57] <morbidi> now do
[01:57] <kemik> Stormx:  got "build-essential" installed?
[01:58] <Stormx> let me see.
[01:58] <morbidi> zaphands: which one ?
[01:58] <morbidi> ah
[01:58] <morbidi> ok
[01:58] <morbidi> ok ok
[01:58] <morbidi> zaphands: and you need to link eth0 to the router
[01:58] <morbidi> and eth1 to de modem ?
[01:59] <Crube> Ah the one thing in linux I'm good at... breaking things. :)
[01:59] <Stormx> kemik: Installing now.
[01:59] <kemik> Crube:  its a start ;P
[01:59] <zaphands> morbidi: If I reverse the wiring then the clock is not updated from the internet upon boot...
[02:00] <morbidi> zaphands: explain
[02:00] <zaphands> morbidi: I guess the init scripts use eth0 for internet access.. If I connect eth0 to LAN than upon boot time ubuntu does not update system's clock from the i-net.
[02:01] <cafuego> Stormx: Fot future reference: See `config.log' for more details.
[02:01] <cafuego> Stormx: That would tell you ehich command failed (and what app/lib is missing)
[02:01] <sean___> wow breezy update is taking aloong time :p
[02:01] <thrush> anyone know how to get a bunch of domain controllers to sync up in Active Directory heh
[02:01] <zaphands> morbidi: That's why i'm keeping eth0=modem, eth1=router.
[02:02] <cafuego> A filthy disease talking about windows...
[02:02] <thrush> ignore me im just frustrated
[02:02] <zaphands> morbidi: I also don't want to share the internet connection.
[02:02] <morbidi> zaphands: you need to bring down both devices
[02:02] <morbidi> reconnect the wiring
[02:02] <erhanerdem> slm
[02:02] <zaphands> morbidi: ok..
[02:02] <morbidi> bring up both devices
[02:02] <erhanerdem> burda turk varm?
[02:02] <brainz> all, Hi i'm a newbie,  please someone help i just installed ubuntu linux and the problem is i cant read and write into my fat32 , my fstab entry reads like this /dev/hda8       /data           vfat    defaults        0       0
[02:02] <cafuego> erhanerdem: English please, in here.
[02:03] <erhanerdem> hm ok
[02:03] <zaphands> morbidi: ok.. I'll do that. brb.
[02:03] <cafuego> brainz: Where is says defaults, you need to have the correct uid,gid,fmask,dmask entries.
[02:03] <erhanerdem>  have been skystar 2
[02:03] <morbidi> k
[02:03] <bur[n] er> brainz: u need some umask/uid/gid options in there
[02:03] <bur[n] er> brainz: man mount
[02:03] <erhanerdem> can not be watch dvbs tv
[02:04] <erhanerdem> what to do ?
[02:04] <bur[n] er> brainz: scroll to the vfat section of that man page
[02:04] <cafuego> brainz: To create it automagically, '/msg ubotu fat32' and fetch abnd run the script it tells you about.
[02:04] <EasterSunshine> what is this i am reading about optimizing my kernal? changing from 386 to 686? what effects does that have? speed boost?
[02:04] <brainz> bur[n] er: ok, will do
[02:04] <|CRS|> anyone help me? How can I eject an iPod from Ubuntu 5.04 ?! I tried eject /media/pod...  but teh ipod is still running!!
[02:04] <sean___> optimizintation for your architecture
[02:04] <Stormx> kemik: Alright. Now its complaining synce isn't installed. I've just downloaded it (as a non .deb) and now i've extracted it. Theres 5 or 6 tgzs inside......
[02:04] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: a little bit, yes.
[02:04] <zealot> hi there... first time linux user here... i just successfully installed ubuntu
[02:04] <bur[n] er> brainz: see cafuego's last comment :)  I didn't know there was a script
[02:04] <brainz> cafuego: I didnt get about that script
[02:04] <sean___> props to you zealot :)
[02:04] <zealot> this is so cool
[02:04] <kemik> Stormx:  dontknow what sunce is
[02:05] <sean___> welcome to linux :)
[02:05] <zealot> :)
[02:05] <cafuego> !tell brainz about fat32
[02:05] <kemik> Stormx:  but compile what you need, or apt-get it
[02:05] <thrush> |CRS|: you mean unmount?
[02:05] <|CRS|> no! it must be ejcted!!
[02:05] <Stormx> *umount
[02:05] <|CRS|> or it burns up!
[02:05] <cafuego> |CRS|: unmount it, then unplug it.
[02:05] <Stormx> |CRS|: If its pluged in it will be in your desktop. Right click > Eject?
[02:06] <zealot> i have a quick question though: my computer had 2 drives, c: a 20 MB drive, and d: a 80 GB drive.  installed ubuntu on C:.  ---- when I use the file explorer, I cannot find the d drive... does any of you know how I can find it?
[02:06] <GoClick> How hard is it to get an Ubuntu install to make /home on /dev/hdb1 ?
[02:06] <thrush> ok ok my bad :)
[02:06] <BSG75> any idea why gnome running so slow?
[02:06] <kemik> !ntfs
[02:06] <Stormx> zealot: Its not mounted.
[02:06] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[02:06] <cafuego> GoClick: trivial.
[02:06] <Rangitoto> I am trying to create a boot floppy. I entered "mke2fs/dev/fd0" and got the message "No such file or directory". I am in the "root@ubuntu:/home/warty" directory. Am I in the wrong place?
[02:06] <kemik> zealot:  read the link ubotu pasted
[02:06] <juanej> is there a .deb of last version of azureus? backports version doesnt work here
[02:06] <Stormx> what ubotu said.
[02:06] <BSG75> cpu load is 3.4% .. this is on a 2600+ amd with 1gb ram
[02:06] <GoClick> Basicaly we want to set up Ubuntu on our server here but we want /home to be on our RAID1 hard drive setup
[02:06] <Stormx> Have to go. Bye.
[02:06] <erhanerdem> please how use skystar2
[02:06] <zaphands_> morbidi: I'm back. but I had to `ifdown eth1` for that.
[02:07] <kemik> gl Stormx
[02:07] <kemik> *gone*
[02:07] <morbidi> zaphands_: why ?
[02:07] <zaphands_> morbidi: internet didn't work.
[02:07] <BSG75> anyone?
[02:07] <erhanerdem> ooof :(
[02:07] <cafuego> GoClick: In the installer, choose advanced partitioning, create the raid1 in the installer, format and mount it (or just format and mount, if it's hardware (promise/highpoint is NOT hardware, do not use))
[02:07] <morbidi> that's strange
[02:07] <morbidi> in fact
[02:07] <zealot> anyone?
[02:07] <morbidi> how do you bring up the two devices ?
[02:08] <BSG75> having issues with gnome running very very slow
[02:08] <GoClick> cafuego no it's a Dell PowerEdge
[02:08] <robotgeek> BSG75: use fluxbox or openbox or xfce
[02:08] <zaphands_> morbidi: i noticed that when i `route` it is stuck before writing the gateways...
[02:08] <|CRS|> Stormx: my ipod when it's plugged says "do not disconnect" , and for safety removal, that message should disappear! and with a umount it doesn't! an eject doesn't work....
[02:08] <BSG75> I tried them .. and they are flying .. so is kde
[02:08] <erhanerdem> please hepl me ? dont watch it skystar2
[02:08] <cafuego> GoClick: Then it ought to just pick up the array. In the aprtition setup, choose hdb1 and tell the system to mount it on /home
[02:08] <zaphands_> morbidi: `ifup -a`
[02:08] <kemik> !anyone
[02:08] <ubotu> kemik: Syntax error in line 1
[02:08] <kemik> !ubotu anyone is anyone = 90% of the first questions asked in this channel _annoyingly_ start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:08] <ubotu> kemik: what are you talking about?
[02:08] <kemik> ubotu anyone is anyone = 90% of the first questions asked in this channel _annoyingly_ start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:09] <morbidi> zaphands_: both ethx are in dhcp right ?
[02:09] <GoClick> cafuego cool, and if the raid controler isn't found?
[02:09] <zaphands_> morbidi: yes.
[02:09] <morbidi> that shouldn't be a problem
[02:09] <morbidi> if you do dhcpcd eth0
[02:09] <morbidi> dhcpcd eth1
[02:09] <robotgeek> !anyone
[02:09] <ubotu> No idea, robotgeek
[02:09] <cafuego> GoClick: Then you probably have a dell poweredge ;-)
[02:09] <kemik> ubotu anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:09] <GoClick> Is Ubuntu ever going to get an easy to use samba gui? swat not being that...
[02:09] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[02:09] <morbidi> it's the same thing
[02:09] <morbidi> but try it
[02:09] <morbidi> if it doesn't work
[02:09] <robotgeek> !anyone
[02:09] <morbidi> check the route
[02:09] <zealot> i can't find my d: drive, can anyone help me? i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu into an empty c: drive. i have a full d: drive, but i can't see it
[02:09] <kemik> !tell kemik about anyone
[02:09] <cafuego> GoClick: Which controller (specifically) is it?
[02:10] <GoClick> cafuego I don't know let me look into that...
[02:10] <robotgeek> kemik: good job
[02:10] <GoClick> The server hasn't arived yet
[02:10] <zaphands_> morbidi: command not found: dhcpcd
[02:10] <|CRS|> Stormx: my ipod when it's plugged says "do not disconnect" , and for safety removal, that message should disappear! and with a umount it doesn't! an eject doesn't work......
[02:10] <zaphands_> morbidi: the route is OK with eth0. but only after `ifdown eth1`
[02:10] <cafuego> |CRS|: Well, just unplug it then.
[02:10] <kemik> robotgeek:  im not sure, some of the op's may be offended and think it's all "rude like #debian"
[02:10] <kdibble> I have maxlogins set to 4 in limits.conf, but any attempt at a 3rd login fails!? anybody?
[02:11] <kemik> robotgeek: but in debian they either a) ban you b) ignore you
[02:11] <kemik> ;)
[02:11] <robotgeek> kemik: what are the chances of anyone doing a !anyone
[02:11] <morbidi> zaphands_: ok
[02:11] <kemik> robotgeek:  i have no idea ;)
[02:11] <cafuego> robotgeek: Once it exists, quite often.
[02:11] <morbidi> the problem is in eth1 then :P
[02:11] <|CRS|> cafuego, NO! It can be that way!!!! in suse when I used to do that, my pod was formatted because of that!
[02:11] <morbidi> zaphands_: eth1 is now connect where ?
[02:12] <cafuego> |CRS|: Well, if you can't unmount it, can't eject it, can't just unplug it, you'll just have to leave it where it is.
[02:12] <robotgeek> damn...upgrading to breezy is taking a long long time
[02:12] <|CRS|> after unpluging it so many times, it doen't mounted anymore
[02:12] <zaphands_> morbidi: eth1=modem, eth0=router.
[02:12] <kemik> zaphands:  i dontknow what youre doing.. but "dhcpd" or "dhclient" is probably what you wanted to write
[02:12] <zealot> can someone help me find my 2nd hard drive?
[02:12] <zaphands_> morbidi: I can do: ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth1 and it will work!
[02:12] <robotgeek> zealot: fdisk -l , i belive might help u out
[02:13] <cafuego> zealot: it's probably in your computer. have you checked?
[02:13] <brainz> cafuego: sorry the script didnt work :(
[02:13] <|CRS|> lolol
[02:13] <morbidi> zaphands_: that's really strange
[02:13] <cafuego> brainz: Ooh, how naughty. Let's yell at nalioth
[02:13] <morbidi> it seems that the both devices are searching for the same addrs
[02:14] <GoClick> cafuego I can't say for sure it's whatever the SATA RAID controller on the Dell PowerEdge 800 us :/
[02:14] <robotgeek> zealot: also check in /media
[02:14] <zealot> cafuego: in the computer i can only see "filesystem", floppy and the CD rom
[02:14] <kemik> zaphands:  what's your problem?
[02:15] <cafuego> zealot: No, no.. in a terminal, run 'dmesg | grep hd'
[02:15] <zealot> robogeek: there's nothing in /media; just the cd roms
[02:15] <zaphands__> morbidi: oops.. u still here?
[02:16] <zaphands__> morbidi: I was disconnected a minute ago.
[02:16] <zealot> cafuego -> i tried running the command on terminal. i can see the drive there
[02:16] <cafuego> GoClick: CERC or PERC
[02:16] <zealot> cafuego -> how do i make it appear on my computer?
[02:17] <cafuego> zealot: 1) partition it if that ahsn't already been done. 2) Format the aprtition (with mkfs) if that hasn't already been done 3) Add it to /etc/fstab
[02:17] <apokryphos> cafuego: any way to find out who deleted a factoid?
[02:17] <GoClick> cafuego with the cost of the server and the cost of the controlers I doubt it's one of them
[02:17] <cafuego> apokryphos: try !factinfo <factoid>
[02:17] <cafuego> GoClick: No, it's a dell.
[02:17] <zaphands__> morbidi:brb
[02:18] <GoClick> I suppose
[02:18] <benkong2> on a laptop how can i get eth0 and wlan0 to come up manually. This things waits forever when booting.
[02:18] <cafuego> GoClick: The Model 800 comes with either a CERC or a PERC.
[02:18] <zealot> cafuego: if i partition it will i erase it? how do I partition it?
[02:18] <etker> anyone awake ?
[02:18] <zealot> cafuego -> sorry, linux noob
[02:18] <apokryphos> cafuego: for *deleted* ones?
[02:18] <kemik> benkong2:  ifconfig probably, or ifup
[02:18] <cafuego> zealot: You partition it with parted or fdisk.
[02:18] <cafuego> apokryphos: Why not?
[02:18] <etker> i'm curious if theres any commandline soundplayer in ubuntu ?  i'm running the ppc version
[02:18] <cafuego> !test is bar
[02:18] <ubotu> ...but test is already something else...
[02:18] <cafuego> !testes is bar
[02:18] <ubotu> okay, cafuego
[02:18] <cafuego> !delete testes
[02:18] <ubotu> cafuego: Syntax error in line 1
[02:18] <apokryphos> cafuego: I get "there is no such factoid"
[02:18] <cafuego> !forget testes
[02:18] <ubotu> i forgot testes, cafuego
[02:18] <robotgeek> benkong2: open up /etc/network/interfaces, and comment out lines containing auto wlan waut eth0 etc
[02:18] <apokryphos> !factinfo testes
[02:18] <benkong2> kemik, no i mean when booting I don't want to try and bring the interfaces up
[02:19] <ubotu> there's no such factoid as testes, apokryphos
[02:19] <benkong2> robotgeek, thanks
[02:19] <etker> i know i can get sound from the machine because i can hear some drums in the end of the boot process, when i have the login screen
[02:19] <cafuego> apokryphos: Hmm, mebbe not. Which one were you after?
[02:19] <zaphands_> morbidi: back.
[02:19] <robotgeek> etker: mp3blaster
[02:19] <zealot> cafuego -> will creating a partition delete the contents of d: drive? i have about 70 MB of content on it
[02:19] <GoClick> cafuego it says it's onboard SATA RAID tho where as the CERC and PERC controlers are cards for sale, if it's onboard why bother buying one?
[02:19] <cafuego> zealot: Yes.
[02:19] <apokryphos> cafuego: a few random ones which I have vague recollection of adding. Ones I'm almost *sure* existed: mplayer, amarok.
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> GoClick: because it's not raid
[02:19] <morbidi> zaphands_: so ?
[02:19] <zealot> cafuego: i don't want to do that. I just want linux to recognize the existing full drive
[02:20] <etker> robotgeek: its not on my system ....
[02:20] <GoClick> HrdwrBoB the Dell site says onboard SATA does do RAID
[02:20] <HrdwrBoB> GoClick: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html
[02:20] <apokryphos> cafuego: it should keep record of !forgets as someone can just repeatedly delete loads of factoids etc
[02:20] <cafuego> GoClick: If it's a raid controller, it'll be the CERC. the on-board one is just flat sata.
[02:20] <cafuego> apokryphos: They're not removed from the Db.
[02:20] <zaphands_> morbidi: I can ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth1 and it works ok.
[02:20] <robotgeek> ubotu tell etker about repos
[02:20] <cafuego> zealot: Just mount it, then (add it to /etc/fstab)
[02:20] <zaphands_> morbidi: I can't activate both interfaces.
[02:21] <apokryphos> cafuego: but just not accessible in the list, I guess? :S
[02:21] <etker> robotgeek: i just meant its not on my machine ... i did find it through apt-cache search
[02:21] <morbidi> zaphands_: you are explaing something wrong
[02:21] <GoClick> cafuego ok because it was ordered with a two disk RAID1 no OS configuration
[02:21] <robotgeek> etker: apt-get install mp3blaster
[02:21] <morbidi> brb
[02:21] <etker> robotgeek: its probably a bit overkill though, i just wanna play a few wav sounds. Something tells me that those jungle drums i hear in the boot process are played by a shell command
[02:21] <zaphands_> morbidi: can I PM you with ifconfig and route results?
[02:22] <cafuego> !amarok
[02:22] <etker> so, in a way my question is: is there a way to find out whats happening there in the end of the boot up, when those sounds are playing ?
[02:22] <robotgeek> etker: :)
[02:22] <Nexinarus> anyone successfully installed Transcode here?
[02:22] <cafuego> apokryphos: Correct, their name gets changed to '<factoid> #DEL#'
[02:22] <Xenguy> etker: I think 'sox' has the 'play' command which handles wav's, mp3's, etc.
[02:23] <zealot> cafuego: ok, gotta ask... how do i mount the drive?
[02:23] <webby`> For some reason I can't get w32codecs to install on my comp. I get this error message... E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[02:23] <cafuego> zealot: with 'mount'
[02:23] <etker> xenguy : aaahhh ofcourse ... i was searching for "play" alone, it never struck me that its probably _in_ the sox package
[02:23] <webby`> How do I fix this and what does that error mean?
[02:23] <etker> wenguy: thanks, will try that
[02:23] <robotgeek> webby`: are u on x86?
[02:23] <webby`> No
[02:23] <webby`> i386
[02:23] <Nexinarus> that is x86..
[02:23] <cafuego> GoClick: the 2.6.12 kernel at a minimum supports the CERC controller by way of the aacraid driver. I'm sure 2.6.10 would too.
[02:23] <robotgeek> webby`: yeah, that's what i meant anyways!
[02:23] <webby`> oh
[02:23] <Xenguy> etker: np
[02:23] <webby`> yes
[02:24] <Nate> Wheres the download for Java Runtime Eviroment?
[02:24] <cafuego> !java
[02:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:25] <apokryphos> cafuego: thanks. No way to see who deleted?
[02:25] <cafuego> apokryphos: no, only who created and last accessed it.
[02:25] <Spudchat> hi guys
[02:25] <Spudchat> does anyone know anything about piedentd?
[02:25] <apokryphos> ok
[02:28] <Nate> Where is a link to the debian package for Java?
[02:28] <apokryphos> Nate: hoary-extras
[02:28] <Nate> I would prefer install a debian package
[02:28] <zealot> ok, noob here. can someone help me mount my second hard drive? first time using linux.
[02:28] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Nate about hoary-extras
[02:29] <Nate> I would like to install it through the terminal, you know, sudo dpkg -i java.deb
[02:29] <Nexinarus> do it then..
[02:29] <Nate> Someone sent me a link earlier but I lost it.
[02:29] <Nate> I'm asking for the link to the .deb download.
[02:29] <apokryphos> Nate: add that repository and you'll have it
[02:30] <apokryphos> Nate: of course you'll get a deb... that's what Ubuntu uses.
[02:30] <Nate> I did, but the server is down and I have to install it through .deb
[02:30] <Nate> I can't use apt-get..
[02:30] <apokryphos> Nate: you're using the wrong mirror then; the one ubotu just gave you is working fine
[02:30] <apokryphos> and why can't you use apt-get? :/
[02:31] <Wanderer_> I am very angry.
[02:31] <Nate> =\ okay, thanks.
[02:31] <apokryphos> Wanderer_: anger is a temporary insanity
[02:31] <Xenguy> Wanderer: try breathing thru you nose, and asking a question :-)
[02:32] <Xenguy> s/you/your
[02:32] <robotgeek> Wanderer_: take 2 deep breaths
[02:32] <zaphands_> How do I `route ` if I have two ethernet interfaces: eth0 connected to the internet, eth1 connected to LAN?
[02:33] <zaphands_> (I don't want to share the i-net connection)
[02:33] <benjamin1254> i dont eather but have 2
[02:34] <Xappe> nalioth: so far so good, it booted into gnome directly after finished install
[02:35] <Wanderer_> I am not angry at anyone in this forum, unless they were a developer for the basic Ubuntu package. I am now going to vent, voice my opinion, what ever you want to call it. If IRC has a moderator, I would ask that he/she, as a courtesy, refrain from kicking me off this channel untill I am done. I will, of course, understand the reason for my being kicked, and will bare no ill will to whoever...
[02:35] <Wanderer_> ...initiates the kicking. Please remember, I only asked not to be kicked untill I am done as a courtesy. If the the rules of this channel at any time dictate that I *must* be kicked immediatly, I will still take no umbridge.
[02:35] <zaphands_> is there a graphical wizard for setting up routing and gateways?
[02:36] <Nexinarus> what if two different packages depend on two different versions of the same package, and you wont both packages installed?
[02:36] <apokryphos> Wanderer_: nice prelude there. :/
[02:36] <zealot> how can I get linux to recognize my second hard drive (it has 70 mbs of content)
[02:36] <robotgeek> Wanderer_: now can u just state ur problem?
[02:36] <Nexinarus> zealot: mount it
[02:37] <FR500> zaphands_: what prob do u have?
[02:37] <bobulor> hi everyone
[02:37] <Nexinarus> hi
[02:37] <robotgeek> bobulor: hi
[02:37] <zealot> neximarus: there's the problem, I don't know how to use the mount command.
[02:38] <FR500> zealot: what you trying to mount
[02:38] <Nate> How do I uninstall a package through terminal
[02:38] <Nate> apt-get uninstall <package> ?
[02:38] <zealot> i'm trying to mount my "d" drive, (what used to be my d drive)... a 80 GB hard drive already installed in the computer
[02:38] <apokryphos> apt-get remove
[02:38] <Nate> Uh
[02:38] <zealot> FR500: i'm trying to mount my "d" drive, (what used to be my d drive)... a 80 GB hard drive already installed in the computer
[02:38] <Xenguy> Nate: apt-get remove
[02:38] <FR500> zealot: is the partition FAT32 or ntfs?
[02:38] <apokryphos> and also perhaps with the --purge option should you want it
[02:39] <zealot> FR500 i don't know. it used to be a slave drive used under windows
[02:39] <Nate> You guys rock :)
[02:39] <Xenguy> Nate: --purge kills all app's config files also
[02:39] <Xappe> do you guys know of any major breakages after colony-3? or can I risk a dist-upgrade?
[02:39] <bobulor> hey uh, are there any uber leet ubuntu people here. I have some hardcore sound issues that rhelmer and seveas couldn't fix the other day
[02:39] <apokryphos> Xappe: you can
[02:39] <Nate> What about chmoding folders/files through terminal
[02:39] <Nate> ?
[02:39] <zaphands_> FR500: I have eth0 connected to my router (LAN) and eth1 connected to my modem (i-net). They work great separatly. They just don't work together.
[02:39] <FR500> zealot: only 1 partition right?
[02:39] <Nate> Like lets say I wanted to chmod opt
[02:39] <apokryphos> Nate: man chmod :)
[02:40] <robotgeek> bobulor: i tht c r i m s u n was the sound guru!
[02:40] <Xappe> apokryphos: ok
[02:40] <zaphands_> FR500: I think it's a routing problem but i'm not sure.
[02:40] <zealot> fr500: yes .... i just installed linux on my c drive (20MB) with one partition.... D drive also has one partition
[02:40] <FR500> zaphands_: how together? both sides probably have DHCP so default gws get overtriten
[02:40] <bobulor> is crimsun here?
[02:40] <zaphands_> FR500: ohm.. can I PM you my `route` table?
[02:41] <FR500> zaphands_: ok
[02:41] <Nate> So if I wanted to chmod opt to 666 I'd type "man chmod /opt 666" ?
[02:41] <FR500> zealot: you need to find out what is the HD name, type sudo fdisk -l and pm me
[02:41] <zaphands_> FR500: I'll disconnect for a second to do that..
[02:41] <zealot> ok
[02:41] <apokryphos> Nate: no. "man" is the command to view the manual page for that given comand
[02:41] <FR500> np
[02:41] <apokryphos> *command
[02:41] <Nate> Oh, thanks :D
[02:41] <apokryphos> Nate: man chmod will give you the manual page for chmod, which instructs on its usage etc
[02:42] <Xenguy> Nate: or man man :-)
[02:42] <FR500> nate type man man :p
[02:42] <Xenguy> heh
[02:42] <apokryphos> Nate: though in this case you can just sudo chmod 666 -R /opt    -- the R option, there, is for recursive
[02:43] <richardk> hey does anyone have vmware installed on there computer
[02:43] <richardk> and you are using gnome
[02:44] <bobulor> yo i have mplayerplug-in and i kinda think it sucks, is there anything else I can hook up with mozilla?
[02:44] <richardk> i just installed it and i need to know where to find it
[02:44] <richardk> on my computer
[02:44] <robotgeek> yeah, maybe he's fallen asleep?
[02:44] <bimberi> :)
[02:45] <richardk> where can i find vmwareworkstation on gnome
[02:45] <richardk> i just installed it on here
[02:45] <ThxGiving> does anyone know if there are to apply special kernel patches for ubuntu?
[02:45] <Nate> I can't remember who it was, or what the site was, but I know it was a ubuntu site, that had downloads of the .deb files for java
[02:45] <richardk> and i cant find it
[02:46] <Xenguy> !java
[02:46] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:46] <Nate> This wasn't it =\ there was a bunch of packages to download, and I found java.
[02:47] <apokryphos> Nate: what's wrong with adding the repository I said?
[02:47] <robotgeek> Nate:add hoary-extras repositories, it had jre1.5
[02:48] <Nate> I would just prefer to run the .deb
[02:48] <apokryphos> Nate: what do you think I'm telling you to do?
[02:48] <apokryphos> that's exactly what I'm suggesting
[02:48] <robotgeek> !lart Agamotto
[02:49] <robotgeek> Agamotto: hehe, sorry!
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> where are iptables settings saved ?
[02:50] <Nate> Sorry, apokryphos thanks.
[02:50] <apokryphos> Nate: let us know if you have problems with adding/downloading it, though.
[02:50] <apokryphos> we're here to help =)
[02:50] <richardk> ok i have mac osx for x86 and i want to install it
[02:50] <richardk> now i need to use vmware to do that
[02:51] <richardk> and i dont know how to use it on linux
[02:51] <richardk> would somebody please help me out
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> use what ? vmware ?
[02:51] <richardk> yes
[02:51] <richardk> vmware
[02:51] <P8ntKid> Can anybody how me where i can get JRE becuase the apt sources dont have it anymore
[02:52] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell P8ntKid about hoary-extras
[02:52] <TraceGreen> richardk, So, you don't know how to install vmware on linux, is it right?
[02:52] <Moongirl^^> good day...
[02:52] <richardk> i have installed it already
[02:52] <robotgeek> Moongirl^^: hi
[02:52] <richardk> i just dont know how to use it
[02:52] <P8ntKid> apokryphos, I have allready enabled the extra repositories
[02:52] <LinuxJones> wickedpuppy, they are lost unless you create a script that loads them or install a firewall tool like firestarter
[02:52] <Moongirl^^> can anybody tell me how to become root w/ ubunto?
[02:52] <robotgeek> !root
[02:52] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:52] <TraceGreen> richardk, can you run it?
[02:52] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: if you have enabled taht one, then you will have it
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> richardk, shouldn't it for vmware customer support ??
[02:52] <P8ntKid> Moongirl^^, sudo passwd root
[02:52] <ilba7r> i have a problem with deleting a user. I delete him and his group yet as soon as i log in to gdm his name is still there and when i use system>pref>add/del user he is stil there? How can i permenantly remove him?
[02:52] <linuz> hello
[02:52] <robotgeek> Moongirl^^: read that link
[02:53] <richardk> well it is vmwareworkstation
[02:53] <richardk> thats what i installed
[02:53] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: please don't advise people to create a root account when they don't know to use sudo.
[02:53] <linuz> can i make a vpn connection on ubuntu?
[02:53] <ubuntu> hello
[02:53] <Moongirl^^> ok will do.. thanks..
[02:53] <richardk> how bout pear pc
[02:54] <Moongirl^^> su passwd root... ty p8ntKid
[02:54] <richardk> or any other type of program like that
[02:54] <apokryphos> Moongirl^^: it's not recommended that you do that
[02:54] <robotgeek> Moongirl^^: don't use that!
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> btw .. its sudo
[02:54] <apokryphos> Moongirl^^: you should use sudo. Check the link.
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> and use sudo
[02:54] <richardk> can i use that to install mac os x for x86
[02:54] <P8ntKid> Its not like your gona die if you use root...
[02:54] <richardk> onto my computer
[02:54] <robotgeek> P8ntKid: it's pretty dangerous
[02:54] <Xenguy> !sudo
[02:54] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:54] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: ubuntu doesn't have it disabled for no reason. You shouldn't advise people to go against it for no reason.
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> richardk, you got vmware ... use it
[02:55] <LinuxJones> richardk, where did you get that ?
[02:55] <Xenguy> Moongirl^^: read that and make up your own mind :-)
[02:55] <richardk> get what
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> vmware
[02:55] <richardk> from vmware.com
[02:55] <P8ntKid> Im not advising anybody to do it, someone asked a question, and i answered it...
[02:55] <LinuxJones> richardk, mac os for x86 from vmware ?
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> then call those guys for help dude ... thats what you paid them for
[02:55] <richardk> no
[02:55] <richardk> mac os x for x86 from apple
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> is it out ?
[02:55] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: erm, yes you did -- your instruction was for them to create/use the root account instead of telling them that Ubuntu has it *disabled* and that it uses *sudo* instead. Read the link.
[02:56] <richardk> it needs vmware to use it
[02:56] <robotgeek> richardk: developer machine?
[02:56] <richardk> it works
[02:56] <richardk> i just need to install it
[02:57] <keegan3747> hi, I am trying to get my linux machine on a home wireless network
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> richardk, how much you paid for that ?? sorry its OT
[02:57] <Nate> http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[02:57] <Moongirl^^> hey guys.. i just want to know how to use the root account...i case i need to install the squid proxy..
[02:57] <P8ntKid> Where is the apt sources list located?
[02:57] <Nate> I'm trying that and it isn't working o-O
[02:57] <keegan3747> I have already done the ndiswrapper thing, now kwifi can't find any networks
[02:57] <apokryphos> Moongirl^^: why didn't you read the link?
[02:57] <richardk> its what
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> P8ntKid, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <Xenguy> Moongirl^^: exactly
[02:57] <richardk> whats OT mean
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> off topic
[02:57] <richardk> i didnt
[02:57] <keegan3747> it returns: Error : unrecognised wireless request "Mb/s"
[02:57] <keegan3747> Determining IP information for wlan0... failed; no link present.  Check cable?
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> then ? you downloaded ?
[02:58] <richardk> i really good friend on the inside gave it to me
[02:58] <richardk> he works for a certain computer company
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> ok ... richardk ... i advice ... call vmware hotline
[02:58] <LinuxJones> richardk, omg stealing computer software is lame
[02:58] <orlok> keegan3747: hahahahahah
[02:58] <apokryphos> Moongirl^^: prefix your commands with "sudo" which you want to be run with root permissions. You will be prompted for *your* password here.
[02:58] <orlok> keegan3747: thats funny :)
[02:58] <richardk> i didnt steal it
[02:58] <richardk> he helped design it
[02:59] <richardk> he gave me a copy to try out
[02:59] <LinuxJones> richardk, you are not supposed to have it
[02:59] <richardk> what are u gonna do about it
[02:59] <Moongirl^^> ok.. sudo is it...
[02:59] <LinuxJones> richardk, how bout you leave the channel
[02:59] <keegan3747> orlok, wat about it is funny?
[02:59] <keegan3747> that is what it said
[03:00] <LinuxJones> bob2, thank you
[03:00] <Nexinarus> heh what isnt richardk suposed to have?
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> eh ah ... didn't his friend gave him ?? nvm
[03:01] <P8ntKid> I added the extra rep. for apt to download java, but it still sais root@Jonslinux:/home/jon # apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[03:01] <P8ntKid> Reading package lists... Done
[03:01] <P8ntKid> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:01] <P8ntKid> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[03:01] <P8ntKid> root@Jonslinux:/home/jon #
[03:01] <LinuxJones> Nexinarus, he has a pirated copy of OSx for x86 (The developers beta)
[03:01] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[03:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:02] <robotgeek> P8ntKid: use that
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> LinuxJones, not pirated ... his friend gave to him ...
[03:02] <robotgeek> wickedpuppy: yeah, right
[03:02] <P8ntKid> robotgeek, ???
[03:02] <P8ntKid> oh
[03:02] <robotgeek> don't paste in the channel
[03:02] <LinuxJones> wickedpuppy, umm your not allowed to distribute that
[03:02] <Akbar> lol
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> then its his friend fault LinuxJones  ... clearly its illegal ... i am wondering whose responsibility is it
[03:03] <Nexinarus> I am so lost with this dependency hell :(
[03:03] <LinuxJones> wickedpuppy, this is offtopic
[03:03] <Agamotto> I can just see Steve Jobs knocking on his/her door
[03:03] <Akbar> so how would you put in/upgrade hardware without the drivers for osxintel :P
[03:03] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: please paste.ubuntullinux.nl your sources.list
[03:03] <Akbar> LinuxJones what repository?
[03:04] <ixiz> How do I install iso-8859-1 on my laptop?
[03:04] <Akbar> I meant P8ntKid what repository?
[03:04] <P8ntKid> The one uboto gave me
[03:04] <emRick> what package contains the "tex" executable?
[03:04] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: did you sudo apt-get update first?
[03:05] <P8ntKid> apokryphos, Yep
[03:05] <robotgeek> emRick: for latex?
[03:05] <Nate> Where is the .deb file I can DOWNLOAD to my desktop and extract myself?
[03:05] <Nate> WITHOUT adding repos.
[03:05] <Wanderer_> To start with, I do not blame those who are just "users" like me, who are on this forum.  It is, however, the developers fault, not only for making an OS that is as crotchety as a senile, 80 year old little lady at detecting hardware correctly,...
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...but also for making it impossible to find a central (not the word, CENTRAL) repository for alternate drivers other than the ones provided with the default install. I also resent in the extream thier evident lack of concearn at making deceant on board help files available (in certain windows, the "Help" button is displayed even though clicking on it results in nothing happening). In fact,...
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...even the 75% of the time you do get a help file, it's not easy to jump from it to other sections of the "help" index, since most titles that form a link indicate not what program they lead to, but simply the acronym of whatever open source developer created them. If (big if) a new user *does* manage to find a relevant help file, it is often formatted oddly, with coherent text sprinkled...
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...with odd gaps of blank space. As for Ubuntu being "Linux For Humans", I really would call that an outright lie, unless one assumes that they mean "human beings that already know what the hell they are doing with a Linux OSW". Sorry, but last time I checked, ol' Aver Age Joe over thier didn't learn to communicate in "sudo-speech" whenever he was instructed in the arts of speaking a...
[03:05] <emRick> robotgeek: Actually, I just want to use "tex" by itself but I don't mind installing "latex" at the same time.
[03:05] <Xenguy> Nate: that is the wrong approach
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> wha wha
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...coherent language. Yet that is repeatedly what one must utilize if one wishes to hammer through Linuxs' sparse GUI Configuration options and actually get the damn C3PO wanna-b to understand where the hell your hardware is, much less get Ubuntu to comprehend what its proper name is and how to have meaningful communications with it. Oh, and who's the wise guy that thought it would be a good...
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...idea to offer patches and then: A. lump them sloppily toghether, with no semblance of order or catagorization. B. Give them quasi-mystical file names that provide no clue as to whet the hell they do, *and* not provide any descriptions for them (for all I knew, they could have been various patches for getting your OS to indentify Donald Trumps' hairstyle). So, that's it. End of maniacle...
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> bob2, ?
[03:06] <Wanderer_> ...rant. Kick me permanently if you must, Mods That Be, but I COULD NOT in good faith just silently leave the scean.  Say sorry, Wanderer.
[03:06] <Nate> I didn't mean it like that,
[03:06] <apokryphos> Wanderer_: you don't have any excuse for flooding the channel
[03:06] <emRick> robotgeek: (I'll repeat myself ...) Actually, I just want to use "tex" by itself but I don't mind installing "latex" at the same time.
[03:06] <apokryphos> Nate: *why*?
[03:06] <robotgeek> yeah, i had my ignore ready!
[03:06] <emRick> apokryphos: is insanity a defense?
[03:06] <kevman> If I do a apt-get dist upgrade from Warty, will the changes I made to my hardware drivers live through it?
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: ... thank you for flooding, unfortunately you misspelt scene
[03:07] <Nexinarus> lol Wanderer_ so you dont like this OS, so what? Go use something else
[03:07] <Nate> It's what worked for me earlier before I reinstalled Ubuntu.
[03:07] <Wanderer_> Nope. You're right, I'm afraid. At least, none that would satisfy any but me.
[03:07] <robotgeek> emRick: tetex-bin , tetex-base, tetex-extras
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> and haven't backed up your observations with any sort of actual problems
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: bad hardware auto detection?
[03:07] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: you haven't added the repo properly; it's there.
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: 'other driers' ?
[03:07] <emRick> HrdwrBoB: yikes ... weidy Wanderer might repeat with the spell correct 8-()
[03:07] <Nexinarus> my hardware is quite rare but auto detected fine
[03:07] <emRick> robotgeek: ok, thanks
[03:07] <P8ntKid> apokryphos, What Repo do i need?
[03:08] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: saying 'it sucks' gets you nowhere
[03:08] <apokryphos> Nate: it's hardly rocket-science :). Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add in that line. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[03:08] <Wanderer_> Yep. I was angry. You try seeing how well your spelling holds up.
[03:08] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell P8ntKid about hoary-extras
[03:08] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: general observations have been that the hw autodetection is very good
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> Wanderer_, what is your problem that lead you to flood this chan ?
[03:08] <Akbar> he's right
[03:08] <Nate> I did, but I'm getting an error.
[03:08] <Akbar> there's no sun-j2re
[03:08] <apokryphos> Wanderer_: you're just trolling
[03:08] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: I'm sure you have valid problems
[03:08] <Akbar> in extras
[03:09] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: but until you can qualify them with actual details, no-one will take you seriously
[03:09] <Wanderer_> Already stated, wicked puppy.
[03:09] <kevman> Anyone?
[03:09] <emRick> rocket-science: yow, tetex-bin, etc are 10M each ... sigh, I might do this later on ... but at least now I know what I need
[03:09] <orlok> what hardware?
[03:09] <linux_ubuntu> my browser is not recognising my dailup connection
[03:09] <P8ntKid> apokryphos, I did that, still the same thing
[03:09] <Xenguy> Wanderer_: I don't even know what to say to your precious little rant.  Ubuntu is a very impressive piece of work.    Maybe OSX is for you instead?
[03:09] <P8ntKid> and i apt-get updated too
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> no .. you never state your problem ... what hardware .. what error messages ...
[03:10] <robotgeek> emRick: i think u meant me :)
[03:10] <robotgeek> i started using breezy and my productivity is already up 150%
[03:11] <emRick> robotgeek: that's what I get for using `dabbrev-expand' in ERC :$(
[03:12] <EasterSunshine> sg nickserv identify immortal
[03:12] <Logistics> opps
[03:12] <Logistics> :X
[03:12] <robotgeek> emRick: ERC, emacs...
[03:12] <linux_ubuntu> can anyone help me??
[03:12] <EasterSunshine> whew...that was close...second time today!!
[03:12] <EasterSunshine> i am running out of passwords...
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> oh boy
[03:12] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  Possibly, start with what hardware you are using
[03:12] <concept10> anyone here play americas army?
[03:12] <Flonne> EasterSunshine, switch to your status context before identifying.
[03:13] <EasterSunshine> Flonne: thx, but i think i'll script an auto identifier
[03:13] <robotgeek> linux_ubuntu: or what u need help with :)
[03:13] <linux_ubuntu> i am using lucent win modem on 533 mhz and 128 ram
[03:13] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: or press the 'home' key ;-)
[03:13] <Agamotto> Ahhh, a win modem... half of your problem.
[03:13] <linux_ubuntu> i need help with firefox
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> linux_ubuntu, you know winmodem is crippled hardware ?
[03:13] <robotgeek> :)
[03:13] <ekimus> !repos
[03:14] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:14] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  Are you not able to connect at all?
[03:14] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help?
[03:14] <linux_ubuntu> i installed it correctly
[03:14] <Efwis> where would I find the directory of the C header files that match my running Kernel?
[03:14] <robotgeek> Efwis: try kernel-headers package
[03:14] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  So it does work, but you are having some difficulty once online?
[03:14] <linux_ubuntu> yes
[03:15] <linux_ubuntu> firefox is not enable to browse
[03:15] <Efwis> thank you
[03:15] <EasterSunshine> linux_ubuntu: you mean unable?
[03:15] <linux_ubuntu> yes
[03:15] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  This is very important - can you fetch your email?
[03:15] <linux_ubuntu> not at all
[03:15] <EasterSunshine> firefox sometimes need to be set to ipv4 from ipv6 sometimes i think
[03:16] <P8ntKid> Does anybody know what Repo i need to ass to get JRE5.0?
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> !tell Wanderer_ about resolution
[03:16] <lui> hello everybody
[03:16] <Agamotto> linux-ubuntu:  I assume that you get the whistle/tones that let you know that you are connected?
[03:16] <linux_ubuntu> i installed extras from terminal
[03:16] <EasterSunshine> P8ntKid: seveas had debs in his experimental repo
[03:16] <P8ntKid> EasterSunshine, And wat repo would that be?
[03:16] <linux_ubuntu> i know its connected by dmesg tail
[03:16] <Agamotto> True, but if he can't even fetch email, that would be the DNS setup, if memory serves
[03:17] <linux_ubuntu> ips assigned correctly
[03:17] <EasterSunshine> P8ntKid: one sec i am looking it up
[03:17] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  what ISP?
[03:17] <P8ntKid> EasterSunshine, k, thanks.
[03:17] <ubuntu> hello room
[03:17] <lui> Is there any application to monitor my cpu temp?
[03:17] <ubuntu> nope
[03:17] <Agamotto> lui:  gkrellm
[03:17] <arzajac>  Hello.  How do I create a mouse cursor theme ub gnome?  What tool do I use?
[03:17] <orlok> Is there a way to see what drivers my initrd has loaded?
[03:18] <tristanmike> linux_ubuntu, this website may have something for you... http://linmodems.org/
[03:18] <EasterSunshine> lui: thermometer
[03:18] <arzajac> lui: lm-sensors or mbmon (xmbmon)
[03:18] <t0mmy> http://www.smashsworld.com/2005/08/im-on-google-talk-right-now.php
[03:18] <t0mmy> google talk go
[03:18] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  I think your problem is that your DNS servers aren't set up properly
[03:18] <t0mmy> (okay so this isn't ubuntu-related but whatever)
[03:18] <robotgeek> t0mmy: offtopic
[03:18] <linux_ubuntu> how to set dns
[03:19] <linux_ubuntu> what settings
[03:19] <lui> wow! thanks everybody
[03:19] <EasterSunshine> P8ntKid: the link was http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ but i just timed out when i tried to connect to it on port 80...
[03:19] <ixiz> Hi i just installed java sdk
[03:19] <t0mmy> is there an #ubuntusocial or what?
[03:19] <arzajac> orlok:  you can see what goes on in dmesg
[03:19] <ixiz> but how do I add that j2sdk directory
[03:19] <EasterSunshine> P8ntKid: but whatever you do, do not install from a bin
[03:19] <robotgeek> t0mmy: ubuntu-offtopic
[03:19] <Agamotto> Not sure myself.  Anyone else good at setting up dial-up stuffs regarding DNS?
[03:19] <t0mmy> i like the community here, and a non-support irc chat would be great
[03:19] <ixiz> to my path so that I can just type java
[03:19] <t0mmy> ah, thanks :D
[03:19] <P8ntKid> Well, i found another.deb in one of Ubuntu ftp's so im gona try that
[03:20] <archie> question:  how to I log on as root using GUI?
[03:20] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: in one of the following ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile (dunno which) do something like $PATH = /javasdk/dir:$PATH
[03:20] <linux_ubuntu> is anyone good at DNS here?
[03:20] <emRick> Agamotto: interesting, how do I get gkrellm to report CPU temperature? the configuration CPU doesn't have anything to turn on this report.
[03:20] <nalioth> t0mmy: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <t0mmy> yeah, i found it :D
[03:21] <Agamotto> emRick:  It should be configuration - builtins - cpu
[03:21] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: and what about the other path's that already are specified, do they remain ?
[03:21] <arzajac> emRick:  I think you need to install and configure lm-sensors.
[03:21] <benjamin1254> totem wont play ne audio for dvds after all dvd librarys are installed... what should i do?
[03:21] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: if you include :$PATH, it should prepend the javadir to the current $PATH
[03:21] <Logistics> any coders with freetime on their hands in here?
[03:21] <Logistics> :X
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> hi guys
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> i'm having major problems installing breezy
[03:22] <Agamotto> benjamin1254:  fetch libdvdcss2
[03:22] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: note the colon, the dir separator
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> could someone help?
[03:22] <EasterSunshine> T5-Steboyuk: just ask and be more specific :)
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> ok
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> well the first install bit goes o
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> k
[03:22] <EasterSunshine> Logistics: what langauge?
[03:22] <ixiz> well how do I find out if it should be .bashrc or .bash_profile ?
[03:22] <emRick> Agamotto: odd, can't find it ... is 2.2.7 the most recent?
[03:23] <Agamotto> emRick: I believe so
[03:23] <T5-Steboyuk> then i get the error 'unable to find volume group sda1 - alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell'
[03:23] <Agamotto> Check the sensors under built-in as well
[03:23] <T5-Steboyuk> so the first stage of theinstall is ok, then i restart then i get this
[03:23] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: one of them should already include a line similar to the one i gave you
[03:23] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: i guess stick it right under that line
[03:23] <brainz> all, is the backport apt repository down?
[03:23] <Logistics> C++, C# preferably
[03:24] <T5-Steboyuk> anyone?
[03:24] <emRick> Agamotto: ok, I see it in sensors but nothing is responding ... I guess my PC doesn't support this feature.
[03:24] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: my .bash_profile had this line in it: PATH=~/.bin:"${PATH}"
[03:24] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: I found this one: PATH="/bin:"${PATH}"
[03:24] <Agamotto> emRick:  More info on your hardware
[03:24] <benjamin1254> root@ubuntu:/home/benjamin1254 # fetch libdvdcss2
[03:24] <benjamin1254> bash: fetch: command not found
[03:25] <ixiz> lol
[03:25] <ixiz> yes
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: yeah, follow that example
[03:25] <lexhider> is breezy in reasonable shape at the moment? (i know it's not production, etc, etc)
[03:25] <adriyel> I'm back
[03:25] <robotgeek> is network-manager broken on breezy?
[03:25] <T5-Steboyuk> anyone???
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: it prepends ~/.bin to $PATH
[03:25] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: so I should just add the line /usr/local/j2sdk/bin:
[03:25] <benjamin1254> it wont b found
[03:25] <benjamin1254> i even did searches
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: you may want to do the line outside the if/fi block
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: cause then if you don't have a ~/.bin, it wont prepend the java dir
[03:26] <Logistics> EasterSunshine, can u code?
[03:26] <Logistics> ;x
[03:26] <hardw1re> \o/ hello
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> Logistics: i did c++ some time ago, now i only do c, python, and perl
[03:26] <bjorn_> How can I open sources.list when i'm in the server thingy :o
[03:26] <ixiz> ok so it should be PATH="/usr/local/j2sdk<ver>/bin:"${PATH}" I should add
[03:26] <robotgeek> bjorn_: nana, or vim
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> Logistics: and NOT winapi programming, plz it was a nightmar
[03:27] <Logistics> im looking for a handful of coders for a project i want to startup
[03:27] <bjorn_> k thanks robotgeek
[03:27] <hardw1re> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: you have a stray double quote. don't put one after the =
[03:27] <T5-Steboyuk> anyone???
[03:28] <EasterSunshine> Logistics: what is the project? and care to continue this conv in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:28] <hardw1re> T5-Steboyuk: are you trying to boot of a SATA / SCSI device?
[03:28] <T5-Steboyuk> SCSI
[03:28] <T5-Steboyuk> it's a standard vmware disk
[03:29] <T5-Steboyuk> works fine w/ hoary
[03:29] <EasterSunshine> hardw1re: while you are on the topic, my hde thru to hdh are scsi devices? cause i only have space for four ide devices (hda thru hdd i assume)
[03:29] <hardw1re> yeah my SATA devices work fine with hoary, but they wont work until the hotplug system is booted
[03:29] <T5-Steboyuk> how do i fix this then :(?
[03:30] <hardw1re> so any of my sdx devices i cant mount until that module is loaded
[03:30] <hardw1re> hmmm i honestly dont know, you need a driver to be installed before it trys to mount
[03:30] <T5-Steboyuk> i have a shell to boot from
[03:30] <hardw1re> is the os itself on the scsi drive?
[03:30] <T5-Steboyuk> yes
[03:31] <hardw1re> see if you can load the hotplug module
[03:31] <hardw1re> and then try mounting any sdx devices again
[03:31] <hardw1re> im only taking a stab in the dark here about the hotplug module
[03:31] <hardw1re> cause i use sata
[03:31] <hardw1re> which is hotplug enabled....
[03:31] <T5-Steboyuk> how do i start hotplug?
[03:32] <T5-Steboyuk> modprobe hotplug?
[03:32] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: ok I added this: PATH="/usr/local/j2sdk<ver>/bin":"${PATH}" that's right isn't it?
[03:32] <hardw1re> dunno :|
[03:32] <hardw1re> you can give it a try
[03:32] <hardw1re> no
[03:32] <Agamotto> I could be totally wrong here, but doesn't he need to compile his kernel with the SCSI controller module in it?
[03:32] <hardw1re> ixiz: you need to remove the " at the very end
[03:32] <steph> hey guys, im having a problem with Mp3 files, none of them want to play unless i use totem
[03:32] <emRick> is there a way to find out if (and where) app XYZ is on my KDE menus?
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[03:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:32] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: yep
[03:33] <hardw1re> oops i miss read what he'd done ;)
[03:33] <vladuz976> how do you change the default applications like mail for instance?
[03:33] <EasterSunshine> emRick: how vast are your kde menus? just look thru each submenu systematically
[03:33] <hardw1re> T5-Steboyuk: any luck with loading that module?
[03:33] <c0rrupt_> is it possible to convert a wepkey back into plain text?
[03:33] <EasterSunshine> emRick: or go into the menu editor for a list
[03:33] <T5-Steboyuk> modprobe hotplug don't work
[03:33] <ixiz> doesen't work :/
[03:34] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: you will have to open a new shell i think, or restart for it to work...
[03:34] <emRick> EasterSunshine: the menus are sufficiently vast ... would take ~5min to go through them.
[03:34] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: I did
[03:34] <qatsi> hello all !.....ive used gentoo for some time long ago. I remember theres a file where you just add the repositorie and then you run synaptic mannager so you have an updated system, but i really dont remember the file name, and the settings....is there an example i can follow ?
[03:34] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: if you want it working right now, just do that same line in the shell
[03:35] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: and if it still doesn't work, take the quotes off from "/usr/local/j2sdk<ver>/bin"
[03:35] <steph> hey guys, im having a problem with Mp3 files, none of them want to play unless i use totem, and i do have gstreamer0.8-mad installed
[03:35] <emRick> I was wondering where the KDE menu info is stored ... then I could just grep or find or something.
[03:35] <T5-Steboyuk> anyone?
[03:35] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: i'm not really a shell programmer, maybe someone else knows the technical aspects of updating teh path in .bash_profile
[03:35] <qatsi> somehthing like package.source ?
[03:35] <TaxMan> I wish to create an Ubuntu-Jetbrains IntelliJ IDEA livecd so I can use my favorite java IDE at school. How would I go about doing that?
[03:35] <Flonne> qatsi, /etc/apt/sources.list, though Synaptic can edit that for you in most cases.
[03:35] <ixiz> ok
[03:35] <funkyHat> what does 'Hit <CR>' mean? (vim)
[03:35] <EasterSunshine> emRick: #kde would know, but i would suggest the .kde folder under your home
[03:35] <esac> i started using the nvidia driver (and xcomp btw). However all my font sizes seem to have increased considerably, any idea ?
[03:35] <T5-Steboyuk> funkyHat: press enter
[03:35] <zealot> is fr500 still around?
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> funkyHat, that would be enter ...
[03:36] <funkyHat> ok :)
[03:36] <qatsi> Flonne ok, but the updates are there ?
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> CR - Carriage Return
[03:36] <Flonne> qatsi, what updates?
[03:36] <titaniululz> anyone use netspeed? i can't get it to be transparent; it's solid and my taskbar is transparent so it looks ugly :(
[03:36] <qatsi> Flonne system updates.....?
[03:37] <steph> hey guys, im having a problem with Mp3 files, none of them want to play unless i use totem, and i do have gstreamer0.8-mad, and libmad0 installed
[03:37] <hardw1re> ok T5-Steboyuk , i just did a cat /proc/modules, and found this sata_sil <- which relates to my sata chip, your gonna have to find the details of your scsi chip
[03:37] <hardw1re> and find a corrisponding module
[03:38] <hardw1re> like scsi_xxx
[03:38] <qatsi> Flonne forget it, i think ive got it, i just uncomented all lines so i can have all files downloaded
[03:38] <EasterSunshine> steph: did you look at the wiki page that ubotu referred you to?
[03:38] <Flonne> Synaptic has three buttons in the left part of its toolbar. Clicking them in order will upgrade everything.
[03:38] <steph> EasterSunshine, yes
[03:39] <steph> EasterSunshine, ok it looks like music player is now working, but xmms still locks up when i hit play
[03:39] <TaxMan> How do I make a livecd out of an ubuntu installation with all the stuff I need on the livecd?
[03:39] <T5-Steboyuk> scsi_mod
[03:39] <EasterSunshine> steph: catch crimsun, he's the channel sound guru
[03:39] <titaniululz> anyone at all use Netspeed panel applet?
[03:39] <T5-Steboyuk> hardw1re would scsi_mod be right?
[03:39] <dhunter> hotplug is a daemon, is it not? Kernel notifies it of events and loads the modules
[03:39] <qatsi> Flonne now its downloading :) thanx.....
[03:39] <EasterSunshine> steph: check for multiple processes using the sound server
[03:39] <zealot> how can I make a drive I have mounted as "/mnt/slave" appear as a drive letter in the desktop?
[03:40] <EasterSunshine> zealot: make a softlink to it on your desktop and name it after a letter
[03:40] <EasterSunshine> zealot: ln -s i think makes softlinks
[03:40] <hardw1re> T5-Steboyuk: dunno... but did you do a default install, or did you type expert when you installed?
[03:40] <steph> EasterSunshine, xmms has always given me trouble, its nothing new, and mp3's seem to be working after removing and reinstalling gstreamer0.8-mad, i must give this comp back to my wife, thanks for the help =)
[03:40] <dhunter> Or just name it slave.
[03:41] <hardw1re> cause if you install via the expert route then maybe you can get it to work straightaway
[03:41] <T5-Steboyuk> default install
[03:41] <zealot> eastersunshine: let me try
[03:41] <bimberi> zealot: another way is to drag the icon from Places -> Computer onto the Desktop
[03:41] <adriyel> theres an expert install for ubuntu? wtf?
[03:41] <adriyel> oh, gstreamer.
[03:41] <ixiz> ok this is trange, If I go out to my console and write java it finds the java compiler and the path woroks
[03:41] <zealot> bimberi: that's part of the problem, that i don't have an icon there
[03:41] <ixiz> but if I do it in a x-term it does not work??
[03:41] <EasterSunshine> adriyel: when booting from the cd, at the first prompt, typing expert will bring up the expert install i believe
[03:42] <zealot> bimberi: but if i brownse to the /mnt folder, i can see it there
[03:42] <bimberi> zealot: ah
[03:42] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: in xterm, type ps|grep sh
[03:42] <zealot> bimberi: know how to fix that?
[03:42] <hardw1re> T5-Steboyuk: you can give it a shot, it might be sd_mod you need
[03:42] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: and paste here if its one line
[03:42] <lui> arzajac, how do I run lm-sensors?
[03:42] <bimberi> zealot: no sorry - the icons usually appear for me :|
[03:43] <ixiz> EasterSunshine:  11923 pts/3    00:00:00 bash
[03:43] <Wanderer_> !Nickserv
[03:43] <ubotu> Wanderer_: Not a clue
[03:43] <T5-Steboyuk> ugh nein working :(
[03:43] <Wanderer_> ?
[03:43] <dhunter> zealot: do you have read, write permission on /mnt/slave ?
[03:43] <zealot> dhunter: i should have both, i don't know yet
[03:43] <zealot> dhunter: i'm still trying to properly mount it
[03:44] <zealot> dhunter: it's a second hard drive, with 70 GBs of content
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> Wanderer_, /msg nickserv help
[03:44] <dhunter> zealot: What is the file system?
[03:44] <Wanderer_> Oh! So you ARE going to help me? Wow.
[03:44] <zealot> dhunter: how do you mean?
[03:44] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: in the console, or whever it actually worked, type `which java`, if it points to corrent java in the correct directory, then i don't know, sry
[03:45] <dhunter> ext2 dos or whatever?
[03:45] <[Spooky] > Hello, i have moved my computer to a friend and he have a diffrent router than mee, and i cant get any connection with DHCP in Ubuntu, anyone have any idea ?
[03:45] <sproingie> dhcp is dhcp ... does his router use dhcp?
[03:46] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: lol yes it does come  with the correct path, it works in the 'console' I mean when I press ctrl + alt + f1 that console
[03:46] <tristanmike> cd /usr/X11R6/bin
[03:46] <[Spooky] > sproingie yes
[03:46] <T5-Steboyuk> i'll try with an expert install
[03:46] <EasterSunshine> sproingie: there is more to it then that, i've had the same problem as well
[03:46] <zealot> dhunter: it was a slave hard drive that i had under windows
[03:46] <sproingie> what happens when you type ifup eth0?
[03:46] <[Spooky] > dunno im in windows now...
[03:47] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: if it still doesn't work at the next reboot, then maybe ask someone else, i might be missing something really obvious cause i'm new to linux
[03:47] <sproingie> [Spooky] : and dhcp works in windows?
[03:47] <[Spooky] > sproingie yes
[03:47] <[Spooky] > but not in Ubuntu...
[03:47] <zealot> dhunter: actually i don't seem to be able to even read from that drive
[03:47] <dhunter> zealot: Was it found during install?
[03:47] <sproingie> [Spooky] : and your nic is set up for dhcp on the linux side?
[03:48] <zealot> dhunter: no, that's the problem
[03:48] <[Spooky] > sp4ce yep
[03:48] <zealot> dhunter: i was trying to mount it
[03:48] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: ok
[03:48] <LexiCon> has anyone installed a Yukon Gigabit network card and gotten it to work?
[03:48] <zealot> dhunter: i can read from it, i just confirmed that
[03:48] <sproingie> i'll assume that was to me ...
[03:48] <LexiCon> it uses the sk98lin module, which is packed with the kernel
[03:48] <Xappe> hmm, the update-notifier takes about 90% cpu on the very new breezy install on my ibook g3
[03:48] <dhunter> zealot: Ok was it windows 98 2000 xp?
[03:48] <Kyral> then kill it and use Apt-Get :P
[03:48] <zealot> dhunter: windows me
[03:49] <sproingie> [Spooky] : is it wireless by any chance?
[03:49] <zealot> dhunter: then i formatted the computer
[03:49] <punkass> anyone here familiar with 855/915resolution?
[03:49] <[Spooky] > sproingie no...
[03:49] <zealot> dhunter: and installed linux from a fresh drive
[03:49] <dhunter> zealot: with what
[03:49] <Xappe> Kyral: yes, but how do I get it not to load at bootup?
[03:49] <[Spooky] > do i have to re-install ubuntu ?
[03:49] <zealot> dhunter: ubuntu's disk
[03:49] <EasterSunshine> LexiCon: that was one hell of a specific question...
[03:50] <zealot> dhunter: i cannot write on the drive, only read
[03:50] <Kyral> sudo apt-get remove update-notifier :P
[03:50] <zealot> dhunter: can you help me to mount it properly?
[03:50] <Xappe> Kyral: ah, clever :)
[03:50] <Kyral> then again, I just tear out Synaptic as soon as I install, so :P
[03:50] <dhunter> zealot: yes
[03:50] <sproingie> [Spooky] : i'd have to see what the output of ifup was
[03:50] <zealot> dhunter: thx
[03:50] <LexiCon> EasterSunshine: yes...lol....because it's supposed to work with the supplied module, but it doesn't...so I'm wondering if anyone else has gotten the Yukon card to work (its by Marvell)
[03:51] <[Spooky] > sproingie is there any command for reget the dhcp info ?
[03:51] <EasterSunshine> zealot: sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever /mount/point -t ntfs -o ro,umask=022
[03:51] <titaniululz> anyone else have a graphic glitch in ubuntu in the top left corner of their screen, about 24 pixels from the top of the screen? it's a 1 pixel thick horizonal bar, about 60 pixels long
[03:51] <punkass> i am using 915resolution and when i run it it says i am at 1280x800 but the screen is actually bigger than my monitor
[03:51] <sproingie> [Spooky] : on linux?  just ifdown/ifup should do it
[03:51] <dhunter> zealot: what command do you mount it with?
[03:51] <EasterSunshine> zealot: if that doesn't work, try passing -t fat32
[03:51] <punkass> I have to use the mouse to slide the desktop around, if that makes any sense
[03:51] <[Spooky] > sproingie lets try brb
[03:51] <zealot> dhunter: hmm... not sure
[03:51] <sproingie> [Spooky] : run ifup --verbose eth0 on the linux side, that should help point out where any problems are
[03:52] <EasterSunshine> zealot: the fstab line /dev/hda1 /mnt/point/ ntfs ro,umask=022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[03:52] <Efwis> join #ubuntu-kernel
[03:52] <Efwis> bah
[03:52] <adriyel> theres a kernel channel for ubuntu?
[03:52] <adriyel> wtf?
[03:53] <dhunter> zealot: did you save data on this drive from windows?
[03:53] <zealot> dhunter: yes
[03:53] <zealot> eastersunshine: i'm trying that
[03:53] <zealot> dhunter: i did it by adding a line of the fstab
[03:54] <EasterSunshine> zealot: the fstab wont work until a reboot the sudo mount should work immediately
[03:54] <punkass> sdf
[03:54] <punkass> oops