[00:00] <ali1234> so?
[00:00] <daftykins> just a bit horrifying
[00:01] <daftykins> heh i love Microsoft's sites
[00:01] <daftykins> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/
[00:01] <daftykins> spot the repetition? :)
[00:04] <yothsoggoth> Yeah, they had that microsoft tent thing at my university
[00:23] <szymon_g> hi
[00:25] <szymon_g> anyone alive here :)?
[00:25] <yothsoggoth> yeah
[00:31] <daftykins> ...for now
[00:33] <szymon_g> ok, i got an error duriing installation of ubuntu; now my /etc/apt/sources.list is almost empty (they are only 3 entries pointing to cdroom). is there any easy way to correct that?
[00:33] <daftykins> yeah, which version?
[00:34] <szymon_g> 12.04. but i've found its copy, so its ok now :)
[00:35] <daftykins> vewy gewd
[00:35] <szymon_g> anyway- how can i stop a module from loading during boot? i mean: my graphic card isn't properly working on open drivers, during normal boot system hangs with unusable screen
[00:35] <daftykins> crisis averted
[00:36] <szymon_g> removing quiet and splash options from grub doesn't help
[00:36] <daftykins> so it's dying even before X, on the boot logo?
[00:36] <szymon_g> yes
[00:36] <daftykins> i'd either install a proprietary driver, configure X to use something else or look up how to disable whichever one is failing hard
[00:37] <daftykins> but off hand i have no idea how to disable nouveau for example, for nvidia
[00:37] <ali1234> you have to use jockey from the terminal
[00:37] <ali1234> !jockey
[00:37] <szymon_g> "jockey"?
[00:37]  * ali1234 pokes lubotu3
[00:38] <ali1234> http://askubuntu.com/questions/6521/how-can-i-reconfigure-the-nvidia-proprietary-drivers-from-the-command-line-ssh
[00:39] <ali1234> the second answer is better
[00:40] <daftykins> time to boot into that kernel update
[00:41] <szymon_g> hm... 287mb of disk and 90 new packages to install just to install drivers :/
[00:43] <ali1234> http://askubuntu.com/questions/138736/which-packages-provide-the-pictured-gnome-panel-applets
[00:52] <szymon_g> how secure is the "home folder encryption"? can root gain an access to files encrypted with it?
[00:52] <szymon_g> what if he will change the password of that user, and than log in with it?
[01:09] <ali1234> szymon_g: changing the password and logging in isn't enough
[01:09] <ali1234> however if the user is logged in at the same time as root i'm not sure
[01:09] <ali1234> at the very least they could probably steal the encryption key directly from /dev/mem, though it would be none-trivial
[01:10] <ali1234> or make a keylogger etc
[01:11] <szymon_g> does ecryptfs use aes-ni features of newer processors (better sandy bridge, all ivy bridge, trinity etc)?
[01:11] <szymon_g> if yes: what are the performance benefits?
[01:30] <mirkoslavko> hello everyone
[01:30] <mirkoslavko> !!
[01:30] <mirkoslavko> :)
[01:30] <mirkoslavko> anyone not sleeping? :)
[01:31] <daftykins> about to leave
[01:31] <mirkoslavko> ok
[01:31] <daftykins> >:D
[01:31] <mirkoslavko> just a short question :)
[01:31] <daftykins> oh?
[01:31] <mirkoslavko> how to make ubuntu 12.04 look like windows 7
[01:31] <mirkoslavko> want to trick some of colegues into believing they are using win7 as we are now switching to ubuntu totaly
[01:32] <daftykins> hahaha
[01:32] <mirkoslavko> i found youtube and other tutorials for older ubuntu versions
[01:32] <mirkoslavko> :)
[01:32] <mirkoslavko> yeah
[01:32] <mirkoslavko> :)
[01:32] <daftykins> tbh i don't even run it, maybe someone else will have an idea
[01:32] <mirkoslavko> but they dont work for 12.04
[01:32] <mirkoslavko> ok
[01:32] <mirkoslavko> what do you u use?
[01:32] <mirkoslavko> debian?
[01:33] <daftykins> ubuntu server for servers, win7 on desktop+laptop :)
[01:33] <daftykins> ooh, and ubuntu on my HTPC
[01:33] <daftykins> but that just boots into XBMC really \o/
[01:33] <mirkoslavko> interesting chocie for htpc
[01:34] <mirkoslavko> xbmc is linux version also?
[01:35] <daftykins> yep
[01:35] <daftykins> windows, mac, linux
[01:35] <daftykins> even on iphones and ipad now D:
[01:35] <mirkoslavko> niiicee
[01:36] <yothsoggoth> For making ubuntu look like Windows 7, you could use either XFCE or KDE and install a Windows 7-like theme
[01:37] <mirkoslavko> thank you yothsoggoth
[01:38] <yothsoggoth> no worries
[01:38] <mirkoslavko> xfce is some program to install before?
[01:38] <mirkoslavko> do you maybe have some link or tutorial
[01:39] <mirkoslavko> i am also interested also in changing position of menue and task bar to be like win7
[01:39] <yothsoggoth> XFCE is a Desktop Environment, as are KDE, Gnome, etc.
[01:39] <yothsoggoth> one second, I have a great link somewhere for a list of these...
[01:39] <yothsoggoth> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[01:40] <mirkoslavko> aha
[01:40] <mirkoslavko> kde looks like win7 menues
[01:40] <mirkoslavko> thank you again
[01:40] <yothsoggoth> if you wanted, you could use Kubuntu or Xubuntu, which are Ubuntu spins designed specifically with the different desktop environments
[01:41] <daftykins> nn all
[01:41] <daftykins> i'm off
[01:41] <yothsoggoth> good night daftykins!
[01:42] <yothsoggoth> mirkoslavko: You might find this interesting: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/?content=104232
[01:43] <mirkoslavko> good N ;)
[01:43] <yothsoggoth> I haven't used it or anything, I just found it searching now, but it looks like it might be what you're looking for
[01:43] <mirkoslavko> and kubuntu is basically ubuntu just with different look?
[01:44] <mirkoslavko> ubuntu 12.04?
[01:46] <yothsoggoth> Yeah, pretty much
[01:46] <ali1234> what? no way
[01:46] <yothsoggoth> You can just install Kubuntu on your normal Ubuntu install if you like, but Kubuntu is specifically built with KDE in mind
[01:46] <ali1234> kde is very different
[01:46] <ali1234> much more than just the look. the whole design philosophy is totally different
[01:50] <yothsoggoth> Ah, my bad. I thought it was just like a spin that focuses on using KDE and KDE-related programs. What's so different about it?
[01:51] <mirkoslavko> i read on one link: If you have regular Ubuntu installed, you can also install it from the Software Center, just look for kubuntu-desktop in it.
[01:51] <mirkoslavko> BUT i tryed this and it doesnt work
[01:51] <mirkoslavko> it cant find it
[01:52] <yothsoggoth> Once you've installed it, you have to log off
[01:52] <yothsoggoth> Then in the login screen you have to select KDE as the desktop shell
[01:53] <yothsoggoth> I think that's how it's done anyway, I'm just guessing based on my experience of installing other desktop environments. Can anyone confirm?
[01:53] <ali1234> yothsoggoth: oh it is. but KDE is a lot more than just unity with different graphics
[01:54] <ali1234> same base packages though
[01:55] <mirkoslavko> yothsoggoth i cant install it
[01:55] <yothsoggoth> ali1234: Ahh, yeah I didn't mean to imply it was just graphically different, my bad.
[01:55] <yothsoggoth> mirkoslavko: Why not? Do you get an error or does nothing happen once you've installed it?
[01:56] <mirkoslavko> no
[01:56] <mirkoslavko> i go where all the sofware is: dash home
[01:56] <mirkoslavko> and type in kubuntu desktop
[01:56] <mirkoslavko> and it says cant find it
[01:56] <yothsoggoth> You won't find it in there, it's not a program that you just run... See what I wrote above, about logging out and selecting it from the login screen
[01:57] <mirkoslavko> yes i understand that
[01:57] <mirkoslavko> but how to install it
[01:57] <ali1234> actually if you go to the apps lense and put in "kubuntu-desktop" that should give you the option to install it i think
[01:57] <ali1234> note the -
[01:57] <ali1234> but be warned, it installs LOADS of stuff
[01:57] <ali1234> also you might have o use an advanced package manager like synaptic to find the metapackage
[01:58] <mirkoslavko> where is apps lense?
[01:58] <ali1234> you open the dash and then click on the second small icon at the bottom
[01:58] <yothsoggoth> ali1234: Does that app lens suggest to install things? That's neat
[01:58] <ali1234> yes, if they are not installed
[01:58] <ali1234> the main dash used to, but everyone hated it
[01:58] <mirkoslavko> aha found ubuntu software center
[01:59] <ali1234> in software center you might need to select "show technical items" or something
[01:59] <ali1234> i dunno, i never use any of that stuff
[01:59] <ali1234> you should really try a livecd anyway
[01:59] <ali1234> KDE isn't for everyone
[01:59] <ali1234> but then neither is unity
[01:59] <yothsoggoth> ali1234: Yeah, I remember it being in the main dash, I'd just assumed it had been taken out altogether when I didn't see it there. Admittedly I didn't use Unity for long though, I found it a little annoying with dual monitors
[01:59] <ali1234> heh
[02:00] <ali1234> multimonitor support got better
[02:00] <ali1234> but i still had to quit it due to the other bugs
[02:00] <mirkoslavko> well i dont like unity for left bar and top bar
[02:00] <mirkoslavko> i feel like caged a bit
[02:00] <mirkoslavko> i like linuxmint
[02:00] <mirkoslavko> looks
[02:01] <mirkoslavko> it feels more open
[02:01] <ali1234> you can get the old gnome-panel back quite easily you know
[02:01] <yothsoggoth> I used it in 11.04 and 11.10, but in 12.04 I can't stand the Sticky Edges thing, so I switched to Cinnamon the day after upgrading to 12.04
[02:03] <ali1234> cinnamon on multimonitor? u mad?
[02:03] <mirkoslavko> i like lubuntu also
[02:04] <mirkoslavko> but i am affraid of limited options
[02:04] <mirkoslavko> or maybe less drivers
[02:04] <ali1234> seriously, go with gnome-panel on gnome 3
[02:04] <mirkoslavko> i have to decide about one distribution of linux for all our office computers
[02:04] <ali1234> https://plus.google.com/117474986382867317779/posts/YVjUdnCziej
[02:04] <stgraber> apt-get install gnome-session-fallback on a clean Ubuntu 12.04 sounds much easier and it's supported (by Edubuntu) for 5 years
[02:04] <yothsoggoth> ali1234: It was the first thing I was suggested trying to replace Unity. It is pretty unreliable though, it completely freezes every couple of hours leaving me to entirely restart X
[02:05] <ali1234> yothsoggoth: that's caused by compiz
[02:05] <ali1234> you can either switch to metacity and enable compositing, or install an old version of compiz
[02:05] <ali1234> either works fine
[02:05] <yothsoggoth> ah, I'll give that a try tomorrow
[02:21] <yothsoggoth> How are people finding the HUD? Is it getting a good reception?
[02:24] <ali1234> depends who you ask
[02:24] <ali1234> if you ask me you get a big fat NO
[02:27] <yothsoggoth> yeah, I can't say I liked it much myself
[02:28] <yothsoggoth> Usually when there's something I want to use in a toolbar, I don't know what it's called anyway so it slows my down trying to figure out the name for the feature to find it with the HUD
[02:55] <yothsoggoth> Well, time for me to get some sleep
[02:55] <yothsoggoth> good night all
[09:22] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:23] <popey> hello brobostigon
[09:23] <brobostigon> hello popey
[09:26] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:26] <brobostigon> hello czajkowski
[10:38] <popey> hmm, i am getting the wrong battery icon like czajkowski had
[10:42] <Nafallo> so do I
[10:42] <Nafallo> it's popey's fault...
[10:42] <czajkowski> popey: oh I had a day of it changing see my twitter pics
[10:43] <czajkowski> every 2 mins it changed
[10:43] <czajkowski> ad only behaved when I plugged it in
[10:43]  * popey reboots
[10:47] <popey> hmmm
[10:47] <popey> czajkowski: file a bug?
[10:48] <popey> found it, bug 1001229
[11:19] <dwatkins> I finally upgraded to 11.04, perhaps I'll even go to 12.04 soon.
[11:20] <Flashtek> lol
[11:20] <Flashtek> i remember when i was initially running Gentoo.. by the time I upgraded everything there was another 500mb of updates to download and install
[12:13] <stilia-johny> hi guys!
[12:14] <stilia-johny> I am from greece and the last 7 months i am living in uk (london) is ther any Ubuntu comunity?
[12:15] <popey> hello stilia-johny
[12:15] <stilia-johny> hi
[12:15] <popey> we have a community in the uk, yes ☺
[12:16] <stilia-johny> and how can i be a member? if is available?
[12:16] <popey> we dont have a formal membership process
[12:16] <popey> we have a mailing list (link in the /topic) and this irc channel
[12:16] <popey> we have a launchpda group
[12:16] <stilia-johny> there is no forum?
[12:16] <popey> there is, but nobody uses it
[12:17] <stilia-johny> pf..
[12:17] <stilia-johny> and i thought tht the forum works better!
[12:17] <popey> you are entitled to that opinion ☺
[12:17] <popey> many disagree ☺
[12:18] <stilia-johny> ok lets make a question now! i want to move my boot folder and my grub2 in a partition!
[12:18] <Laney> slow launchpad is slow
[12:19] <popey> stilia-johny: as its sunday, its not very busy here, probably better asking support questions in #ubuntu or on http://askubuntu.com/ for a quicker response
[12:19] <stilia-johny> i have windows ubuntu and backtrack in my pc.. and i want to make a small partition to put my boot folder and my grub2 and some ISO's
[12:20] <popey> I'd probably use gparted on a live cd for that
[12:20] <popey> then copy the data over and then edit my fstab
[12:38] <BigRedS> I think it'd be nice to have scheduled fscks happen on shutdown rather than only on boot, especially for a desktop. Is there somewhere I shoudl be looking to see if someone's already proposed this?
[12:38] <BigRedS> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/report-problem suggests ubuntu-devel is the place rather than launchpad
[12:38] <BigRedS> which seems a bit ad-hoc
[12:39] <penguin42> BigRedS: I'm not aware of anything that's suggested it, for those who unplug their machine or if a laptop put it in a bag that would be BAD - but I can see for a desktop to do it and then power off I agree it would be neat
[12:39] <penguin42> hmm breakfast time
[12:40] <dwatkins> I'm looking forward to a late breakfast this evening.
[13:19] <Adriannom> hi.  just installed xubuntu 12.04 and after i suspend the screen is very dark, even at the prompt to log back in.  changing brightness has some effect, but even full brightness is very dark.  any ideas what could be going on?
[13:20] <Adriannom> the mouse pointer is actually the only thing that is at full brightness
[15:55] <mattt> afternoon all
[16:05] <Darael> Having a problem on several machines since they were upgraded to Precise.  The settings for keyboard layouts are ignored, and the layout is permamently set to whatever the default for that account was before the upgrade, but behaves as though all the check-boxes under "options" were unset.
[16:06] <Darael> This means I no longer have access to QWERTY keyboard layouts on my own user account, and my caps-lock is a caps-lock instead of a backspace, and no amount of fiddling with the settings has fixed it.  What can I do?
[17:40] <DJones> Evening
[18:51]  * popey tickles BigRedS
[18:51] <popey> then changes his mind and tickles bigcalm instead
[18:51]  * DJones pinches popey's feather
[18:52] <KevanV> DJones: duck?
[18:53] <DJones> ostrich
[18:53] <KevanV> I suppose they have a better reach
[19:12] <ali1234> popey: yesterday i found out compiz 0.9 is a from-scratch rewrite
[19:13] <popey> news to me
[19:13] <ali1234> it's not even written in the same language
[19:13] <ali1234> 0.8 is C, 0.9 is C++
[19:14] <ali1234> i thought it might be :)
[19:14] <ali1234> hence why i mention it
[19:14] <popey> ☺
[19:16] <ali1234> it's slightly annoying that you can't install them both side by side because they have the same name
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> is it better though
[19:17] <ali1234> is what better?
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> 0.9
[19:17] <ali1234> no
[19:17] <ali1234> it's much much worse
[19:17] <ali1234> it basically only works with unity
[19:18] <ali1234> and even that doesn't really work properly
[19:27] <ali1234> http://askubuntu.com/questions/138736/which-packages-provide-the-pictured-gnome-panel-applets
[19:28] <ali1234> i know someone out there knows the answer to this
[19:32] <popey> i know bits of it
[19:32] <popey> not all
[19:33] <popey> the stuff in the top right is mostly "indicator-*" packages
[19:33] <ali1234> the "stuff" in the top right is all one applet
[19:33] <ali1234> i think it is indicator-applet-complete
[19:35] <popey> hmm, doesn't look like it to me
[19:35] <popey> hey ho
[19:35] <ali1234> what do you mean?
[19:35] <popey> well, one is the session menu, thats indicator-session
[19:35] <ali1234> no no no
[19:35] <ali1234> there's multiple versions
[19:35] <ali1234> there's slpit up versions and one with "everything"
[19:36] <ali1234> having everything as a single applet fixes the problem with stuff getting shuffled on the panel
[19:38] <ali1234> all the different versions come from indicator-applet source package anyway
[19:43] <TheLinuxUser> hi
[20:06] <ali1234> ooo, human theme is still n the repos
[20:08] <ali1234> wow, human theme for windows + ambiance for gtk works really well
[20:29] <czajkowski> evening
[20:51]  * Laney wibbles
[23:55]  * hamitron wonders why a window seems to move slightly down and to the right, when left clicking to make it active


[07:51] <kraut> moin
[13:06] <flint_>  type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY flint
[13:06] <flint_> @schedule new york
[18:03] <skimat> is art meeting still on and those it cover graphical user interface of desktop-windows tabs and so on ?


[15:15] <Garheade> morning all
[15:24] <balloons> morning :-)
[15:25] <balloons> Garheade, try https://mattermost.popey.com/signup_user_complete/?id=1qpn9houn7r4mc5xc6ho9wt7se
[15:26] <balloons> it's a test server using mattermost; which is an OSS slack clone
[15:29] <Garheade> I saw that email this morning and just havent gotten around to it.
[15:29] <Garheade> I've never bothered with slack before...
[16:07] <balloons> yea, me neither
[16:17] <mhall119> honestly, not missing much


[14:10] <rtg> tseliot, did you and jibel ever figure out the build issues with 3.16 and fglrx-updates ?
[14:11] <tseliot> rtg: yes, and I fixed that issue yesterday, although there are more issues I need to take care of
[14:11] <rtg> tswas just looking at the jenkins dashboard. i386 is still red.
[14:11] <rtg> tseliot, ^^
[14:12] <tseliot> rtg: yes, exactly. It's an issue with a GPL only symbol. I'll figure that out
[14:12] <rtg> ok


[10:28] <quartzy> astroman: that would depend on the command, so ask?
[10:28] <humbolt> What can I do to make it faster?
[10:29] <guiden> I've followed a guide to enable the 3d acc thing
[10:29] <humbolt> Windows are rendered very slowly!
[10:29] <intelikey> any hex editor i guess   vi in bin/hex mode
[10:29] <astroman> tr ???
[10:29] <ScarFreewill> guiden, ubuntu guide?
[10:29] <fyrmedic> ScarFreewill; I tried and it wouldn't work. It came out as garbled characters
[10:29] <guiden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:29] <guiden> that one
[10:29] <humbolt> When I switch windows, it takes for ever until they are rendered!
[10:29] <ScarFreewill> ok
[10:30] <astroman> i want to change 12-15-12 -500 to 12:15:10 -0500
[10:30] <quartzy> astroman: what are you using tr for?
[10:30] <humbolt> I want to switch back from ubuntu to kubuntu but I don't know how it got so slow!
[10:30] <ScarFreewill> fyrmedic, is it encripted?
[10:30] <astroman> i think it's the best choice no ??
[10:30] <fyrmedic> ScarFreewill; I don't know but I suppose it could be.
[10:30] <BlueEagle> The issue was resolved by restarting the local X-server.
[10:30] <intelikey> humbolt it's that slow computer you have.  you need a good fast one like this p1mmx 100mhz box with 64m ram    kde works ok here   :)
[10:31] <quartzy> astroman: what are you trying to do?
[10:31] <humbolt> when I manage to use beryl everything is much faster
[10:31] <intelikey> humbolt look for somethin hogging cpu use   top
[10:31] <astroman> quartzy : i want to change 12-15-12 -500 to 12:15:10 -0500
[10:31] <humbolt> I have a recent centrino with 1.5 gig of ram!
[10:31] <humbolt> Xgl
[10:31] <guiden> everything gets black, it's like the card just stop worked. but i dont get NO SIGNAL ON CABLE as It would if I unplugg the cable from the card
[10:31] <astroman> quartzy : with tr i change all the "-"
[10:31] <fyrmedic> ScarFreewill; I am reasonably certain the program I am interested in seeing is a worm/virus targeted at windows users by Nigerians or something.
[10:32] <humbolt> Xgl seems to use up all CPU
[10:32] <BlueEagle> guiden: And the card in question is a?
[10:32] <intelikey> quartzy man tr
[10:32] <humbolt> while I don't have that problem in gnome
[10:32] <astroman> quartzy : but i dont want to change the last one
[10:32] <ScarFreewill> fyrmedic, you can't open any file if it is encripted then it would usualy open that way what extension does the file have that you want to open?
[10:32] <guiden> ati radeon 9800 pro
[10:32] <intelikey> humbolt run top and see what is eating cpu time
[10:32] <guiden> it's when I play 3D game
[10:32] <fyrmedic> ScarFreewill; .exe
[10:32] <humbolt> intelikey: Xgl!
[10:33] <humbolt> but I am not running beryl currently
[10:33] <intelikey> then dump xgl
[10:33] <humbolt> and Xgl with and without beryl runs fine on gnome
[10:33] <ScarFreewill> fyrmedic, well you can run it in linux...
[10:33] <quartzy> xgl without running beryl has alwasy been terrible for me
[10:33] <nuku> fyrmedic: you can try "ht" or install wine and use the free editon of IDA pro..
[10:33] <ScarFreewill> fyrmedic, but you can't just open it and see its src
[10:34] <quartzy> astroman: i dont actually know sorry, have you read the man page?
[10:34] <fyrmedic> ScarFreewill; ok thanks was just curious how I go about seeing the source code of it.
[10:34] <intelikey> if you have things eating up cpu and you want to speed theings up  you stop/kill/unload what ever is eating the cpu-time   it's as simple as that.  you don't say   "oh my '<app-here>' is slow the app must be bad." you find out why and fix it.
[10:35] <astroman> quartzy : yes but i dont know what to do if i want to change couple of - but not all !! thx anyway
[10:35] <humbolt> now when beryl is running everyting runs smoothly
[10:35] <ScarFreewill> fyrmedic, if you meet some uber clever guy he can maybe de/reverse-compile it for you :P
[10:35] <humbolt> except for the adept-update manager icon, which is in the top-left corner
[10:35] <nuku> fyrmedic: ida pro will give you a deep insight what an executable does... ht provides some fair disassembling capabilites :)
[10:36] <ScarFreewill> fyrmedic, i know how to do it with java apps but exe, and native bins... :(
[10:37] <ScarFreewill> guiden, there is over a milion possable resons that your pc freezes but seeing that ur on a lapy ... you can't just pug ur gfx card in another pc...
[10:38] <ScarFreewill> guiden, is this the first os you have loaded on the pc?
[10:39] <humbolt> can I replace kwin with beryl in /usr/bin/startkde
[10:39] <humbolt> ?
[10:41] <ScarFreewill> humbolt, are you trying to get back from beryl to kwin?
[10:42] <scion> hello all
[10:42] <ScarFreewill> humbolt, can't you just right click the beryl icon in the taskbar and tell it to use kwin?
[10:42] <againstme> is it hard to change the adept program to install via internet instead of installer dvd?
[10:42] <ScarFreewill> scion, hi :)
[10:42] <quartzy> againstme: edit your sources.list and comment out the dvd entries
[10:42] <intelikey> ScarFreewill i think you have that backwards ^
[10:43] <MidMark> againstme: or better open adept, manage repo, and disable dvd
[10:43] <ScarFreewill> intelikey, the kwin thingy..
[10:43] <deian> guys... have u seen this article? http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/54436.html
[10:43] <againstme> im converting from mac so im really new to liux
[10:43] <deian> Ubuntu Creator Urges Abandonment of OpenSuse
[10:44] <intelikey> ScarFreewill yeah
[10:44] <ScarFreewill> deian, i heard something about novelsoft and m$...
[10:44] <scion> well mac is pretty much BSD so i'm sure you'll be fine!
[10:44] <trappist> deian: #kubuntu-offtopic please
[10:44] <intelikey> ScarFreewill it seems he's wanting beryl to run
[10:44] <deian> it's not off topic is it?
[10:44] <againstme> im turning on my linux ibook right now to figure out that adept deal
[10:44] <trappist> deian: this is a support channel
[10:44] <deian> oh
[10:44] <deian> ok
[10:45] <BluesKaj> Someonr here says Mark Shuttleworth is a billionaire ... really now :)
[10:45] <intelikey> i wonder why kde shows the utc time ?
[10:46] <intelikey> cat /etc/timezone  yelds   US/Central
[10:46] <BluesKaj> a brit developer ?
[10:46] <intelikey> what does kde read ?
[10:46] <BluesKaj> I changed mine to am pm
[10:47] <trappist> intelikey: mine says America/Chicago
[10:47] <againstme> im in the adept manage repositories, how do i disable DVD?
[10:47] <intelikey> trappist but your kde does read it as that does it not ?
 againstme: or better open adept, manage repo, and disable dvd
[10:48] <trappist> intelikey: it shows the time correctly - not sure where it gets the tz though
[10:48] <againstme> im in there, but how do i disable dvd?
[10:48] <intelikey> mine reads the trc as is  displays GMT
[10:49] <intelikey> oh well it's no THANG to me.  i'll just rm it from the pannel
[10:49] <intelikey> problem solved
[10:49] <intelikey> gdm is hard coded to use tty7   that's totally unacceptable to me.
[10:50] <ScarFreewill> quartzy, ping
[10:50] <quartzy> againstme: if you have gone to adept -> manage repos there will be a list of things, some are black (currently in) and others comments out. You need to find the ones that reads differently to the others it wont have http://somewebaddr.com
[10:50] <trappist> intelikey: you can adjust it from Adjust Date & Time
[10:50] <scion> set up your timezone!
[10:51] <ScarFreewill> quartzy, sorry but where is "Control Centre"
[10:51] <quartzy> ScarFreewill: lol it is good point, add the applet "Settings Menu" to kicker
[10:52] <ScarFreewill> quartzy, ok
[10:53] <guiden> ScarFreewill no, I've used it for many os's. Btw my other computer was a laptop, this is a tower.
[10:53] <ScarFreewill> quartzy, I added "Settings" that was the only one there
[10:53] <againstme> ok. i found one that does not have the http:// in the comments
[10:54] <quartzy> ScarFreewill:  click on that at the very top it should say control center
[10:55] <guiden> ScarFreewill: It froze before too, it didn't go black, I could see the screen and move the mouse, but only horizontally, and everything else was wierd. But then I checked the card, and I saw alot of dust in the fan, I removed it and then it worked, now I'm getting these problems
[10:55] <j_> I get these in my log: "kernel	[17201038.104000]  eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x6 length 0 status 00000600!"
[10:55] <ScarFreewill> guiden, so if you have only ran linux on it, i don't really know much commands like glxinfo and stuff like that to test your gl, but it seems that nothing is wronge with the soft where ... just note SEEMS
[10:56] <j_> apparently it's an old bug with VIA Ethernet card drivers
[10:56] <j_> anyone managed to fix it?
[10:57] <j_> also, I need a good audio player
[10:57] <j_> xmms crashes a lot
[10:57] <j_> and I haven't figured out Beep skins
[10:57] <j_> need a bigger skin and bigger fonts
[10:57] <againstme> sorry guys, im very new. once i find the one that doesnt have the http in the respo., how do i get rid of it?
[10:57] <webben> does kde use a different DPI from gnome by default
[10:57] <j_> than xmms or Beep
[10:59] <quartzy> againstme: right click on it and select disable or remove
[10:59] <quartzy> when you have done the ones you want make sure you click apply
[10:59] <againstme> ok. ill try again, but my cntl click wouldnt bring up a menu.(im on mac, no right click)
[11:00] <ScarFreewill> guiden, in the past i have had 3 pcs that gave me gfx problems with ati cards so i would say its still very possable (even though ur opengl is setup correctly or so it seems) that is software realated
[11:00] <quartzy> hmm i wouldn't know how to do it on a mac
[11:00] <againstme> its the ppc version
[11:01] <intelikey> anyone know where the setting is that makes gdm use tty7 ?
[11:02] <lzap> hi I am upgrading Dapper-Edgy and the apt-get -u dist-upgrade process failed: /var/cache/apt/archives/anjuta_2.0.2-2ubuntu1_i386.debE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- I cannot either remove anjuta  or re-run the upgrade process, what should I do? please help!
[11:02] <ScarFreewill> how do i make glxgears show me my fps
[11:02] <intelikey> and don't think to say it the first open tty  i don't use tty5,6   so that's not the case.
[11:02] <quartzy> againstme: maybe google it, it appears you need right click to do it that way..
[11:02] <quartzy> ScarFreewill: glxgears -showfps i think
[11:03] <quartzy> intelikey: it will be in gdmrc i would imagine, as for where that is i don't know since i'm an kubuntu user
[11:03] <quartzy> intelikey: i know for kdm its in kdmrc which is /etc/kde3/kdm
[11:03] <quartzy> so it may be something similar
[11:04] <intelikey> there is no   *rc   there is .conf  but that's not it.
[11:04] <ScarFreewill> lzap i would try to uninstall anjuta seeing that edgy doesn't need it to run and its giving u probs
[11:05] <quartzy> intelikey: where are you looking?
[11:05] <ScarFreewill> lzap i guess you could just reinstall it afer you booted up in edgy..
[11:06] <lzap> ScarFreewill: I cannot uninstall anything, apt-get stops: The following packages have unmet dependencies: (about 15 packages)
[11:07] <BlueEagle> lzap: Did you try with adept or aptitude?
[11:07] <intelikey> quartzy /etc/gdm
[11:08] <ScarFreewill> BlueEagle, i think he did apt uninstall..
[11:08] <quartzy> intelikey: it may be .conf then, did you look in there?
[11:08] <intelikey> quartzy found it  gdm.conf:FirstVT=7
[11:08] <lzap> BlueEagle: nope
[11:08] <BlueEagle> lzap: That might be something to try. :)
[11:08] <j_> am I stupid if I tru to compile a driver to fix that "oversized Ethernet frame" thing?
[11:08] <j_> *try
[11:09] <lzap> synaptic doesnt run
[11:09] <drarem> is there a way to run gedit to edit a protected directory file without having to sudo it from root? the gui way doesn't give me authority
[11:09] <BlueEagle> guiden: If you're hardware savy then you might want to check that the fan and rib is properly seated and perhaps check that you've got a proper amount of thermal paste between them.
[11:10] <lupine_85> gksudo gedit
[11:10] <BlueEagle> lzap: Not synaptic, adept.
[11:10] <cloakable> Any way to publish a Samba server on Zeroconf?
[11:10] <ScarFreewill> lzap aptitude should... seeing ur in "text mode"
[11:10] <j_> how do I check which driver I am running?
[11:11] <BlueEagle> j_: lsmod usually.
[11:11] <lzap> adept reinstalled anjuta, its working
[11:13] <roltux> oke maybe a lot of people came to here with this problem
[11:13] <roltux> but i upgraded to kde 3.5.5 and now mounting of my usb stick is not working anymore
[11:13] <lzap> ScarFreewill: it seems its continuing with the disttro update! adept is not based on apt? strange, but it seems to work... wish me luck. thanks.
[11:14] <RobertDB> I have a question about kde.
[11:14] <_kuja_> ask away
[11:14] <RobertDB> Now that I've installed kde over ubuntu server 6.06, how do I get the server applications previously installed (apache, proftpd, mysql, etc) onto the menu?
[11:15] <j_> hmmm, via_rhine   0
[11:15] <guiden> ok
[11:15] <_kuja_> Not sure if it can be done or not, seeing as they're all cli daemons started from the shell.
[11:16] <_kuja_> or more likely, from an init script....
[11:16] <roltux> anybody who upgraded to kde 3.5.5 and having mounting problems
[11:16] <RobertDB> I'm simply looking for a means of doing app configuration
[11:16] <intelikey> RobertDB (apache, proftpd, mysql, etc)  are not gui applications   in fact not applications in the common sense
[11:17] <_kuja_> Hmm, some of them might have guis for configuration, I'm pretty sure mysql does, not sure about apache or proftpd as I've not looked.
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> RobertDB, use your browser as the interface
[11:17] <intelikey> !lamp
[11:17] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[11:18] <_kuja_> If you want a gui for configuration of mysql, install the mysql-admin package.
[11:18] <RobertDB> k
[11:18] <j_> I'm gonna leave this one for my bro
[11:18] <j_> too bad this is producing horrible latency
[11:19] <RobertDB> What do I do to use the browser as the interface?
[11:21] <_kuja_> For administrating proftpd, try the program supplied by the gproftpd package.
[11:21] <_kuja_> I did a quick search for something similar for apache and didn't find anything
[11:24] <_kuja_> roltux, does that mean you're having problems with it? I've not heard anything about it.
[11:24] <RobertDB> I've been reading what docs I can find this afternoon, but apparently I'm not looking in the right places.
[11:24] <roltux> yes after upgrading kde to 3.5.5 from dapper i have this problem
[11:24] <cpk1> i am trying to mount a usb stick but seem to be mounting the usb hub instead
[11:25] <cpk1> what am i doing wrong?
[11:25] <aib> is it possible to _downgrade_ a package? binutils <IP_ADDRESS>.5 has a serious bug that causes link time to be O(n^2) ! (and that's what is being used in kubuntu)
[11:25] <BlueEagle> robertdb: apache, proftpd and mysqld doesn't show up on the menu by default. You'll need to add manual entries for them. Not that I can fathom why you would want to do that tho...
[11:25] <lzap> upgrade with adept failed, what can I do?
[11:26] <RobertDB> I've been looking for how to add installed programs to the menu but haven't found it yet
[11:27] <cpk1> RobertDB: right click the kmenu and then select the menu editor, as soon as it opens press save and then close it
[11:27] <BlueEagle> robertdb: did you try: http://www.google.com/search?q=kde+edit+menu
[11:28] <_kuja_> roltux, what sort of problems then?
[11:28] <roltux> well i cant mount my usb stick, ones i insert my usbstick its asking me if i want to open it
[11:28] <roltux> and then i say yes but it never opens
[11:28] <roltux> btw _kuja_brb
[11:29] <_kuja_> Weird...... that's good, v
[11:29] <_kuja_> *because I need a few minutes myself
[11:29] <cpk1> roltux: same thing happening with me =\
[11:29] <RobertDB> BlueEagle, I'm checking it now.
[11:30] <cpk1> RobertDB: you try what i said?
[11:30] <intelikey> gdm error human.xml not found   yet i'v removed all refferance to human in the gdm.conf   what gives ?
[11:31] <RobertDB> open the menu editor and close it again?
[11:32] <BlueEagle> Doesn't kubuntu use KDM?
[11:32] <intelikey> BlueEagle by default yes.
[11:32] <cloakable> In most cases, yeah
[11:32] <intelikey> i don't like kdm  it's setup to use /root as a universal config dir
[11:33] <intelikey> ie users writting to /root
[11:33] <lupine_85> erm, not on kubuntu it isn't
[11:33] <lupine_85> at least not AFAICT
[11:33] <cloakable> :)
[11:33] <intelikey> lupine_85 ?
[11:33] <intelikey> at whom ?
[11:33] <lupine_85> @you :)
[11:34] <aerius> reeeeee
[11:34] <intelikey> lupine_85 which release ?
[11:34] <aerius> heloow
[11:34] <lupine_85> 6.06
[11:34] <_kuja_> helluuu
[11:34] <intelikey> dapper  yes it does.
[11:34] <lupine_85> erm, 6.10 ratehr
[11:34] <aerius> there is somebody to help me ;d
[11:34] <aerius> :)
[11:34] <aerius> just need to talk about vmware ^^ in linux :)
[11:34] <lupine_85> I only used dapper for a short while :)
[11:35] <lupine_85> aerius: ask away
[11:35] <aerius> ^o)
[11:35] <intelikey> if you want to test it  sudo rm -r /root ;sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:35] <RobertDB> darn I need to leave. I'll check out what you've given me so far. Thanks.
[11:35] <intelikey> and see what all it writes there.
[11:35] <_kuja_> later RobertDB
[11:35] <lupine_85> hehe. /root has plenty of stuff in atm, sorry
[11:35] <_kuja_> aerius: what about vmware?
[11:36] <intelikey> lupine_85 so you could mv /root /testing  and put it back when finished
[11:36] <aerius> i'm trying to install it but with out result
[11:36] <aerius> in synaptics i try to install the vmware player
[11:36] <aerius> (sorry for my english :) im frech)
[11:36] <_kuja_> have you tried following what the ubuntu wiki says to do?
[11:37] <aerius> nop :$
[11:37] <Lagwagon> thank you guys for the hlp..finally got my adept working
[11:37] <aerius> the error that i have is that the module vmnet can't be loaded
[11:38] <_kuja_> vmware server or vmware player?
[11:38] <aerius> the player
[11:38] <aerius> i'm downloading the server now to try with :)
[11:38] <aerius> cause with the player i have any time that problme
[11:39] <_kuja_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VmwarePlayer
[11:39] <aerius> but if you have a fix to the player
[11:39] <aerius> i prefere use it
[11:40] <aerius> ok i well go to see that now
[11:40] <aerius> thnkx ^^
[11:40] <Lagwagon> i have a question. i installed kubuntu on an ibook and the colors are not right and i tried to change some settings but nothing worked so far...any ideas?
[11:40] <_kuja_> kay
[11:41] <morphish> hm, this is like not particularly cool, apt-get segfaults as does the adept updater that wants to update something
[11:41] <_kuja_> Hmm, if you go to systemsettings-> monitor & display -> color & gamma you may be able to play with things
[11:42] <Lagwagon> yeah..i changed it to the apple standard setting but still prob
[11:42] <_kuja_> So, what's wrong with the color exactly?
[11:43] <Lagwagon> instead of showing colors, it will show pixels of random colors
[11:43] <_kuja_> That could be a video driver problem, which one do you use?
[11:43] <Lagwagon> sorry, just got it
[11:43] <Lagwagon> my fault
[11:43] <Lagwagon> sorry]
[11:44] <_kuja_> Oh, what was it then?
[11:45] <Lagwagon> i changed it to apple standard, but accedentally moved the scroll wheel at the same time so i changed the settings with the apple setting
[11:47] <Lagwagon> now i have to find some cool software..
[11:49] <_kuja_> Now listening to:The Day The World Went Away by Nine Inch Nails on The Fragile
[11:57] <cpk1> for some reason i cant seem to mount my usb stick, automount doesnt work and if i try to mount /dev/sdb1/ it looks like to mounts the hub
[11:57] <yintelike> hmmm still not accepting passwdless login
[12:00] <_kuja_> cpk1, what hub?
[12:01] <yintelike> i set  PasswordRequired=false
[12:01] <yintelike> but still doesn't work
[12:03] <cpk1> _kuja_: the usb hub, after some reading it looks like the hal update caused some problems
[12:04] <_kuja_> Hmm
[12:04] <_kuja_> I've got no idea. Are you using edgy or dapper?
[12:05] <cpk1> dapper
[12:05] <cpk1> i am reverting to previous hal
[12:08] <re-align> Hmmm...
[12:10] <re-align> Unfortunately the KDE app responsible for setting the shortcuts wants WIN+(something else)...:(
[12:11] <re-align> Which file is responsible for defining keyboard shortcuts?
[12:12] <_kuja_> Hmm, you might be able to change the win key into a non-modifier key somewhere else, maybe... (I'm thinking system settings -> region & accessibility or system settings -> keyboard & mice -> ....


[00:00] <James147> S74rk7: /boot/grub/grub.cfg is auto generated as well wheny ou update-grud ^^ which is run when a new kernel is installed/removed .... /etc/default/grub would be a better file to back up
[00:00] <gomiboy> xptical: why not just stick with a Long Time Support release than?
[00:01] <xptical> I may.  But I do like to have the latest hardware support.  My Laptop doesn't work out of the box with 10.10.  With 11.04, it all just works.
[00:13] <S74rk7> I am thinking to give BURG a try... I just wanted to back grub up in case I killed something...
[00:16] <James147> S74rk7: unless you have actually modified a file then reintalling grub should be enough
[00:22] <S74rk7> so pretty much if I kill something somehow... I should boot up off a livecd and reinstall burg or run the commands to auto generate it again? :)
[00:23] <James147> S74rk7: yup
[00:23] <James147> !grub2
[00:23] <James147> ^^ for refence if you need it :)
[00:24] <S74rk7> nice :) thanks guys...
[02:09] <Walzmyn> will i be able to upgrade straight from 10.04 to 11.04 or will I have to go though 10.11?
[02:14] <DarthFrog> Walzmyn: You'll probably have to go through 10.10.
[02:14] <Fanfare> Walzmyn: afaik 10.04 -> 11.04 should be ok, possibly via 10.10...
[02:35] <Fritz1793> lol i just found out how to view the different channels on this server (/list) :p that was giving me trouble for a bit on quassel
[02:43] <valorie> Fritz1793: using /msg alis list *searchterm* will give you better results
[02:43] <valorie> the /list command is server-intensive
[02:44] <Fritz1793> valorie: lol thanks i noticed that all the thousands of channels all appeared in random order with that command
[02:45] <Fritz1793> so do most people on this IRC server use kubuntu?
[02:45] <valorie> nope
[02:45] <Fritz1793> ok
[02:45] <valorie> freenode is for free projects of all kinds
[02:45] <DarthFrog> Fritz1793: Not on the server but, yes, on this channel.
[02:45] <valorie> kub. has three channels
[02:46] <valorie> lots of *buntu chans of all kinds and sorts as well
[02:46] <Fritz1793> but it says i'm on kubuntu irc and on the kubuntu channel which are 2 different things, right?
[02:46] <valorie> ah
[02:46] <valorie> that is a redirect, I believe
[02:46] <valorie> we don't run our own server
[02:47] <valorie> you are in the #kubuntu channel on freenode IRC
[02:47] <valorie> "kubuntu irc" for short
[02:47] <Fritz1793> ok
[02:48] <Fritz1793> but on other channels it still says that i'm on kubuntu irc?
[02:49] <Fritz1793> or is that due to the redirect thing you mentioned
[02:49] <valorie> probably so
[02:49] <valorie> or it might be how your client does it
[02:50] <Fritz1793> ok
[02:50] <Fritz1793> i'm using quassel which was preloaded so that might be it...
[02:50] <valorie> there are loads of different apps/ways to access IRC
[02:50] <valorie> including web pages
[02:50] <Fritz1793> like facebook?
[02:51] <Fritz1793> with the "chat" feature?
[02:51] <valorie> facebook uses XMPP, which is jabber
[02:51] <valorie> like GoogleChat
[02:51] <Fritz1793> ?
[02:51] <Fritz1793> sorry i can't quite understand jargon of that magnitude yet
[02:51] <valorie> that is another medium, like AOL IM and MSN
[02:52] <valorie> there are a few apps that allow you to use all of them, including IRC
[02:52] <valorie> ummm.... pidgin I think does
[02:52] <Fritz1793> ok
[02:52] <valorie> and telepathy will, I believe
[02:52] <valorie> I pretty much just use IRC
[02:53] <valorie> and occasionally FB or Gchat
[02:53] <Fritz1793> ok, i guess i'm still an initiate to this concept of the "internet" so i've just floated a bit
[02:53] <Fritz1793> ;D
[02:57] <Fritz1793> so what does "+o FloodBotK2" do?
[03:01] <valorie> stops trolls from flooding the channel
[03:01] <valorie> and annoys everyone else
[03:01] <valorie> it's a bot, as the name indicated
[03:02] <Fritz1793> ok
[03:02] <valorie> the +o part means it is a channel op, which means it has the power to do things like kick people out of channel
[03:02] <valorie> there are other bots like ubottu
[03:02] <valorie> who will answer questions
[03:02] <valorie> like...
[03:02] <valorie> !kubuntu
[03:03] <valorie> try it
[03:09] <Fritz1793> !kubuntu
[03:09] <Fritz1793> neato
[03:09] <Fritz1793> could i create my own bots?
[03:13] <valorie> you can, but not for *buntu channels
[03:13] <valorie> they are rather heavily regulated
[03:13] <Fritz1793> ok
[03:13] <valorie> but yes, people create all kinds of bots, and there is code for 'generic' ones, into which you put your own plugins, games, powers, etc.
[03:20] <Fritz1793> ok thanks for the excellent help!
[03:20] <Fritz1793> bye!
[03:23] <S74rk7> nobody awake?
[03:24] <valorie> I'm awake, but don't know the answer to your question
[03:24] <S74rk7> hi valorie!
[03:24] <valorie> hello
[03:24] <valorie> actually, I don't see your question in scrollback
[03:25] <valorie> so you may as well ask again
[03:25] <S74rk7> no I've decided I'm gonna install burg instead... was worried but what the heck... if I break something least I'll learn to fix it....
[03:25] <valorie> burg?
[03:26] <S74rk7> from my understanding and in short...
[03:27] <S74rk7> it changes the look of the grub2 menu... plain txt which looks intimidating to some - and gives it a bit of a gui
[03:27] <S74rk7> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Burg
[03:28] <S74rk7> I was wondering earlier how to backup grub before I tried this out... but I found out that you can pretty much repair grub if something goes wrong
[03:28] <S74rk7> so I'm gonna take a chance here and test it out...
[03:28] <S74rk7> lol
[03:29] <valorie> cool
[03:29] <valorie> come back and tell us about it
[03:29] <S74rk7> but my question now is... I've found a bit of a guide online that looks good but its telling me to install something called BUC too...
[03:30] <valorie> if it's on help.ubunbu.com, it's good
[03:30] <valorie> follow it
[03:31] <valorie> it looks waaaay too involved for me
[03:33] <Daughain> Hopefully no worse than the time I had to setup to do installs over lan
[03:35] <James147> ^^ dosnt look to involved
[03:36] <James147> ^^ add the ppa -> install -> configure :)
[04:11] <jordan> when i active my desktop effects it jacks my sceen up when im scrolling
[04:11] <jordan> kubuntu 10.10
[05:24] <s0phie_> o.o
[05:25] <s0phie_> hey guize, i'm trying to get to a directory where i have a file containing stuff to run in command line, but i can't cd to it?
[05:28] <Magnusson> can someone help me with modding my desktop? i'm using kubuntu and kde, but would like to use GDM as my login manager, and some gtk themes
[06:48] <valorie> !freenode
[06:52] <jrgp> my / is btrfs, package acl is installed, but when I edit a file's "advanced permissions" and add an acl entry, click "ok, and later reopen the file's perms window, my entry has automagically tragically disappeared. How can I make ACL changes stick?
[06:52] <jrgp> 64bit kubuntu maverick btw
[08:26] <Miika--> Hello, I have installed Kubuntu on Lenovo laptop. When I log out, it just gives me black screen...  What could be the problem?
[08:48] <well_laid_lawn>  Miika-- try checking ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for anything relevant
[10:22] <doilgheas> hi
[10:23] <doilgheas> how i start jbossas with a kubuntu 10.10?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:13] <MajinSaiyan> Good morning everyone
[13:24] <BluesKaj> good morning , MajinSaiyan
[13:24] <MajinSaiyan> how are you, Blueskaj?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> just fine thanks , and you , MajinSaiyan ?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> MajinSaiyan, so what's your question ?
[13:31] <MajinSaiyan> Well i don't have a question right now....i'm trying to get used to the system.....
[13:32] <MajinSaiyan> Thank you for asking though. I apreciate it.
[13:33] <BluesKaj> MajinSaiyan, ok , if you want to do some offtopic discussion , #kubuntu-offtopic is where we hang out to chat
[13:34] <MajinSaiyan> Ok Thank you for letting me know
[14:07] <MajinSaiyan> Can anyone help me? I have Kubuntu 10.10 and just installed a tool for converting .dmg files to image files. I can locate the tool in /root/usr/bin but i can't open the exe file. When i click it nothing happens. What am i doing wrong?
[14:09] <juan_> what is the name of this tools?
[14:09] <MajinSaiyan> dmg2img
[14:09] <MajinSaiyan> i used KPackageKit to get it
[14:10] <juan_> try press alt+F2 and type this name
[14:10] <juan_> then hit Enter
[14:11] <juan_> or look int Applications menu
[14:11] <juan_> in*
[14:12] <MajinSaiyan> i tried both and it still doesn't work :/
[14:12]  * James147 wonders why any application would install to /root/...
[14:12] <James147> ^^ suggests its not installed where it should and thus not on the path ^^
[14:13] <James147> MajinSaiyan: what tool did you download
[14:13] <MajinSaiyan> that's strange since i used the software center to install the file
[14:13] <MajinSaiyan> it's called dmg2img
[14:13] <James147> MajinSaiyan: yeah, i have never seen the packagemanager install to weird locations like that
[14:14]  * James147 goes to try installing it
[14:14] <MajinSaiyan> Thanks for your help guys.....i've installed a few programs and have located them in the /bin folder, but i can't run them
[14:15] <James147> MajinSaiyan: most if not all tools in /bin are command line tools ^^
[14:15] <MajinSaiyan> oh i see.....i guess i have to learn how to use the terminal
[14:16] <James147> MajinSaiyan: I just inslled dmg2img from kpackagekit and it installed to /usr/bin/... as it should
[14:16] <James147> MajinSaiyan: suggests to me that something is wrong with your system if it didnt :S
[14:16] <MajinSaiyan> are you able to open the tool just fine?
[14:17] <James147> MajinSaiyan: Yes, it appears to run (or at least display the help message)
[14:18] <MajinSaiyan> i still can't get mine to work....let me try the steps once more
[14:25] <MajinSaiyan> i couldn't get it to work. I will try again later....gotta get ready for work. Thanks for your help, Juan and James147.
[14:40] <legodude> hi, anyone know of 'location aware' tools for  kubuntu?
[14:41] <legodude> ie, when connected to my home network, I don't want to have my computer ask for my password on resume from suspend
[14:45] <James147> legodude: there is the bluetooth lock ^^ which will lock/unlock your computer baised on if a certian bluetooth devices is detected or not
[14:54] <Fearless13> hi, anyone know what is the file to edit to enable double click instead simple click on KDE?
[14:55] <tsimpson> Fearless13: System Setting -> Keyboard & Mouse or System Settings -> Input Devices -> Mouse
[14:56] <Fearless13> Yep tsimpson but I was looking for the file to edit you see? Doing it with the shell
[14:58] <tsimpson> Fearless13: ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[14:58] <Fearless13> hm
[14:58] <tsimpson> look for "[KDE]" and the line "SingleClick=true", change it to "SingleClick=false"
[14:59] <Fearless13> I don't have this line in my kdeglobals :s
[15:00] <Fearless13> I'm gonna add it maybe
[15:00] <tsimpson> as long as it's under the "[KDE]" section
[15:00] <Fearless13> I don't have [KDE] section neither..
[15:01] <tsimpson> then you should probably add that too
[15:01] <Fearless13> I have to reload it afterthat?
[15:01] <Kolia> :D
[15:02] <tsimpson> probably login/out
[15:02] <tsimpson> or just run "kbuildsycoca4"
[15:04] <Fearless13> ok let's try
[15:07] <Fearless13> Not bad tsimpson not bad... How did you find out?
[15:07] <tsimpson> grep
[15:07] <tsimpson> grep -r Click ~/.kde/config/
[15:08] <tsimpson> I did "click" first, didn't see anything useful, so capitalized
[15:08] <Fearless13> Ok thx
[15:08] <tsimpson> then I tested by changing to use single-click and see what changed
[15:09] <Fearless13> Unfortunately it wouldn't have worked for me because of the absence of this parameter in my files !
[15:09] <tsimpson> I've upgraded through many versions of KDE, so I have lots of settings stored
[15:10] <Fearless13> Put your .kde/config online I'm gonna grep if I need.. LOL !
[15:10] <tsimpson> I'd rather not ;)
[15:11] <Fearless13> I was jokin ;)
[15:11] <Fearless13> Anyway thanks for your help and the tip
[15:11] <tsimpson> no problem
[15:12] <cynthiagg> ooi
[15:21] <kalib> when will 11.04 come up?
[15:23] <Fearless13> still beta
[15:23] <Fearless13> chan ubuntu+1
[16:09] <sudipta> is it safe to install kde 4.6 in ubuntu 10.10?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> sudipta, I'm running kde 4.6 on 10.10 without any mishaps
ok...i was thinking to give it a try......been a long time gnome user
[16:11] <BluesKaj> sudipta, you can choose which desktop you want to use at login , but youll need to choose a default window manager, either one will do gdm or kdm.
[16:11] <asraniel> sudipta: there are some kde pim related bugs, nothing serious though
[16:11] <BluesKaj> sudipta, one question , laptop or desktop?
desktop....
[16:12] <BluesKaj> ok, sudipta , enjoy kde :)
can i use gdm in gnome and kdm in kde?
[16:14] <tsimpson> you only need to use one or the other
[16:14] <tsimpson> it's only used to start the desktop, nothing more
i want just to use the Desk. envrnmnt....
[16:15] <tsimpson> sudipta: both kdm and gdm can log you into both gnome and KDE (and others)
ok
[16:16] <BluesKaj> sudipta, tsimpson just answered your question , it's immaterial which window manager you use
[16:16] <tsimpson> *display manager
[16:16] <BluesKaj> right tsimpson sry :)
[16:16] <tsimpson> :)
i am going to uninstall all the softwares that r gonna be installed duting kubuntu-desktop installation.....]
[16:17] <tsimpson> why?
[16:23]  * BluesKaj wonders if kde and wayland will be a good fit
[16:27]  * Peace- will doing a dvd with kubuntu +lxde
[17:39] <afief> How unstable is Kubuntu 11.04 right now?
[17:39] <Tm_T> afief: #ubuntu+1 would be better place to ask
[17:40] <afief> Tm_T: I was afraid they'd focus on problems with Unity instead of the distro itself
[19:53] <katsrc> waht's a good KDE based recording application?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> katsrc, that depends on the media , target and the source
[20:00] <katsrc> BluesKaj: lets say something like Audacity?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> katsrc, audcity is unecessarily complex for recording audio ,checkout  cdrdao , or sound recorder if you don't mind gtk apps
[20:08] <katsrc> BluesKaj: thanks
[20:21] <Peace-> katsrc: kwave :)
[20:22] <katsrc> Peace-: compiling that as we speak, the version in the repo is it using Qt4 with KDE4 support?
[20:22] <Peace-> katsrc: compilinh ?
[20:22] <Peace-> why
[20:22] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install kwave
[20:22] <Peace-> :S
[20:23] <katsrc> .86 has KDE4 support
[20:23] <katsrc> 0.8.6*
[20:23] <katsrc> 0.8.5 is in the repos
[20:33] <BluesKaj> Peace-, katsrc , another is the old standby cdrecord
[20:36] <katsrc> BluesKaj: is it cli?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> yup
[20:37] <BluesKaj> it's installed by default
[20:41] <rikva> hi, I just activated the ppa backports to get the new KDE packages. Now every time I open a video file over SMB:// using VLC, KDE first copies the whole file to /tmp. This is not neccesary because VLC can stream over SMB. Is there a way to change this behaviour?
[21:14] <ooki2day> impedes flash of player. prompt as to correct
[21:22] <Guest99523> musica italiana
[21:25] <gribouille> hi
[21:25] <gribouille> is kde 4.6.2 availble ?
[21:27] <tsimpson> gribouille: not yet, but soon
[21:27] <gribouille> tsimpson, when ?
[21:27] <tsimpson> once the packages are made
[21:27] <gribouille> tsimpson, do you mean compiled ?
[21:28] <tsimpson> created and compiled and published
[21:28] <ooki2day> somebody can help me?)
[21:29] <gribouille> tsimpson, it's just a bugfix release, so it must be possible to reuse the previous packages
[21:29] <gomiboy> gribouille: short answer: no
[21:29] <gribouille> gomiboy, why ?
[21:29] <tsimpson> gribouille: mostly, but not completely in all cases
[21:29] <genii-around> ooki2day: Your flash player is not working?
[21:30] <ooki2day> hi is working, but lags
[21:31] <genii-around> ooki2day: Are you using gnash or the adobe one?
[21:31] <ooki2day> adobe
[21:32] <ooki2day> what is gnash?
[21:32] <genii-around> ooki2day: It is the open source flash player. It is the one which is usually having problems, and not the adobe one.
[21:32] <gribouille> ooki2day, a free flash player
[21:33] <ooki2day> thx, i try to use it)
[21:34] <petete> does sif muna protect against wucad mu miscasts?
[21:34] <ooki2day> gnash will work with adobe?
[21:35] <petete> oops, sorry. wrong channel
[21:35] <ooki2day> or need delete adobe previosly?
[21:36] <gomiboy> ooki2day: if you have problems with adobe, you will have more problems with gnash
[21:36] <ooki2day> why?
[21:37] <gomiboy> ooki2day: it's slower and doesn't work at all with some flash out there
[21:38] <gribouille> I if want to back up my system, whic system directories should I back up ?
[21:39] <ooki2day> thx. now I will look
[21:41] <gomiboy> gribouille: the word "system" says it all... every :P (excep /sys /proc)
[21:42] <genii-around> gribouille: Pretty much everything except /dev /proc /sys /tmp /var/cache and anything mounted under /mnt or /media
[21:46] <gribouille> ok, thanks
[22:00] <ooki2day_> tsimpson: 4.6.2 is now available
[22:25] <s0phie_> where can i change desktop effects?
[22:30] <doctoras> feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[22:30] <doctoras> аууууууууууууу
[22:31] <genii-around> !ua
[22:31] <genii-around> Hm
[22:33] <doctoras> народ когда Либру стваиш опен надо полюбому сносить?
[22:33] <genii-around> !ru
[22:37] <doctoras> tell me what is best OpenOffice or Libra Office
[22:37] <ooki2day_> doctoras: повтори вопрос понятнее)
 на каком языке?
[22:39] <ooki2day_> dactoras:  понял уже. ты хочешь поставить либре офис?
[22:39] <doctoras> да
[22:39] <ooki2day_> не обязательно сносить опен офис
[22:39] <doctoras> у меня просто опень офис 3,2 и до 3,3 синоптик невидет обновления
[22:40] <genii-around> !english
[22:40] <ooki2day_> doctoras: can you undersефтв english?
[22:40] <genii-around> doctoras and ooki2day_ Please visit #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[22:41] <ooki2day_> doctoras: *understand
[22:42] <BajK> is there a KDE kdm theme that supports a user name seleciton list? the default kubuntu is just plain windows95-style with user name and password prompt
[22:44] <TLF> hello
[22:44] <ooki2day_> hi
[22:44] <TLF> can anone please tell me what's the default kubunt theme? thanks
[22:45] <ooki2day_> you want know theme name?
[22:45] <TLF> yes, please
[22:46] <ooki2day_> kde or gnome?
[22:47] <TLF> both
[22:47] <ooki2day_> you use kde or gnome?
[22:48] <doctoras> kde
[22:48] <TLF> I use both :)
[22:48] <TLF> seriously
[22:49] <ooki2day_> kde default style is oxygen'
[22:49] <ooki2day_> colors oxygen too
need to create a Russian channel Kubuntu
[22:51] <ooki2day_> doctoras: yes)i will answer in private
I have created for our private channel
[22:53] <TLF> need to go
[22:53] <TLF> thank you very much for your help, ooki2day_
[22:53] <TLF> goodbye
[22:54] <ooki2day_> TLF: bye)
[23:10] <thumper> should I ask natty upgrade issues with quassel-core here?
[23:11] <thumper> I'm missing quassel, and have dropped back to konversation
[23:12] <genii-around> thumper: I experienced problems with it constantly crashing, yes. Am now using one from git and put it in /usr/local/bin  instead of the system /usr/bin where the packaged one resides
[23:32] <ironfroggy> When I disconnect an external display from my laptop, even if i disable the second display i can still drag windows to it or existing windows still get stuck on it, where i can't even see.
[23:32] <ironfroggy> Is there something I can do about this?
[23:34] <thumper> Riddell: ping
[23:35] <Riddell> hi thumper
[23:35] <thumper> Riddell: who knows about quassel packaging?
[23:35] <thumper> Riddell: I upgraded to natty last night an chasing quassel issues
[23:35] <thumper> looking in the log file it seems that as the new packages were being installed, quassel was filaing to store messages
[23:36] <thumper> and quassel-core failed to install fully
[23:36] <Riddell> I think scottK usually packages it
[23:36] <thumper> what tz is scottK in?
[23:36] <Riddell> US
[23:37] <thumper> thanks
[23:37] <thumper> do you happen to know if quassel has its own channel?
[23:38] <Riddell> an IRC client without its own channel would seem a curious thing :)
[23:38] <Riddell> I expect it's #quassel
[23:38] <thumper> yup
[23:38] <thumper> I just went there :)
[23:57] <ooki2day_> when I can douwnload upgrades for ubuntu natty from launchpad.net?


[00:07] <otix> On Kubuntu 15.10 after adding the backports PPA and upgrading to Plasma 5.5.4, I'm now having problems with the second monitor. It's rotated vertically to be 1080x1920.  The background and area that can accept widgets wants to use the default 1920x1080 horizontal, and can bleed over to the adjacent monitor at times. I can temporarily correct this by disabling and re-enabling the monitor in System Settings. The problem returns if I log out
[00:07] <otix> and log in again, even if I had saved the working session.   Any suggestions?
[00:24] <hydrogen> Hi friends.  my displayport audio output sounds noticibly more terrible than my headphones output
[00:24] <hydrogen> I'm trying to play with pulseaudio-equalizer, but every time I make an adjustment it stops sound from outputting until I restart the app.
[04:09] <RoscoeP> just thought I would stop by and say hi as I am waiting for Kubuntu to be installed on an old Dell Optiplex 740 I was given
[04:09] <RoscoeP> this old dell must have come from the factory with a striped RAID config
[04:09] <RoscoeP> interesting
[04:10] <RoscoeP> gonna give KU a try with it RAIDed
[04:16] <RoscoeP> had garbled video upon install and the install would never finish
[04:16] <RoscoeP> but after a little digging I found the nomodeset option and that seemed to work
[04:16] <RoscoeP> so far so good anywa
[04:18] <RoscoeP> spoke too soon
[04:18] <RoscoeP> executing grubb-install /dev/sda failed
[04:18] <RoscoeP> this is a fatal error
[04:21] <RoscoeP> hmm wonder if it something with the raid
[04:30] <quade_>
[07:38] <icemanbp> hi guys, I've a problem. I can't hear any sounds with kubuntu over my iMac
[09:11] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:52] <yossarianuk> With the release of the latest Nvidia driver - 364.12, which has support for Vulkan/Mir/Wayland - should Plymouth now work ?
[09:54] <soee_> uhm
[09:54] <soee_> it works for me but im on hybrid machine so im not sure if intel on nvidia is used on boot
[09:56] <yossarianuk> soee_: i'd assume thats the intel driver...
[10:04] <hateball> yossarianuk: It *should* from what I understand
[10:04] <hateball> since it has the new KMS thingy
[10:04] <hateball> I have been too lazy to test since it's not packaged in the drivers PPA yet :b
[10:51] <yossarianuk> hateball: cheers, I've just used the .RUN file from nvidia - i realise now that the new driver is a beta..
[10:51] <yossarianuk> I just hope that a Vulkan/Mir/Wayland supported in 16.04 by default or it will look stale quickly.
[10:52] <yossarianuk> (i.e the driver available)
[11:13] <hateball> yossarianuk: I dont know what the state of making this "official" PPA official is https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[11:13] <hateball> 364 is not built yet :<
[11:15] <soee> it is in marcos staging ppa
[11:16] <soee> http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/21/Screenshot_20160321_231804.png
[11:17] <hateball> :)
[11:18] <hateball> I am interested in seeing if it lets me run Magicka 2
[12:04] <yossarianuk> soee: cool
[12:04] <yossarianuk> Can't wait to try out Wayland...
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:18] <drw> Hi BluesKaj
[13:19] <BluesKaj> hey drw
[14:40] <yossarianuk> wow project neon has .iso's ....
[14:40] <yossarianuk> http://files.kde.org/snapshots/
[14:40] <yossarianuk> a wayland one also
[14:44] <ikonia> ....it's not going to have mir is it
[16:07] <Guest41185> yoyoyoyoyoyo
[16:07] <Guest41185> popopopopopop
[16:07] <Guest41185> kani k chelo
[16:07] <Guest41185> salo bhopdi walo
[16:07] <Guest41185> hahaha
[16:08] <Guest41185> ollleeee ollllleeee
[16:24] <Notsonoble> hi
[16:41] <amarok__> hi all
[17:16] <Lakii> hi
[17:54] <Exagone313> Hi, what are the meta|packages I may use to install KDE alongside another desktop env? I don't want to use kubuntu-desktop. Thanks for your help.
[17:57] <Exagone313> I think I'm gonna ask on #ubuntu, more people are here, hope they won't redirect here
[17:57] <Exagone313> s/here/their/
[17:57] <Exagone313> there
[18:17] <soee> Exagone313: try plasma-desktop
[18:18] <Exagone313> yes I saw it, after search, but I think I need more packages, I'm gonna try with a minimal cd -  this is for a friend and he has atcually gnome-panel, installed from debootstrap installation
[18:21] <Exagone313> so I want to keep it minimal
[18:22] <Exagone313> for example, plasma-desktop doe snot install dolphin, etc... so it's not really close to kubuntu
[18:26] <soee> Exagone313: well try kde-baseapps
[18:26] <Exagone313> kde-plasma-desktop is maybe the good one, I look if it install too many things or not
[18:28] <Exagone313> darn it doe snot exist on wily
[19:11] <Jonas_> Hi
[19:12] <Guest99873> hi
[19:12] <Guest99873> amarok don't play music
[19:13] <Guest99873> amarok don't play music
[20:59] <mah454> Hello
[20:59] <mah454> KDE 5.6 released
[21:00] <mah454> When packaged for kubuntu 15.10 ?
[21:02] <genii> There's no current timeline for that. The devs are still working on getting 16.04 out the door right now
[22:19] <Exagone313> I have two questions, first, is there a way to change the wallpaper used by the splash screen (after sddm), and second, why my desktop get reseted (wallpaper and folder view to desktop view) after at each login? Thanks for your help.
[22:21] <Exagone313> Now I can't set the layout from desktop to folder view, it sets back to desktop directly after apply, switching to mouse action and go back to wallpaper
[22:24] <Exagone313> hmm https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346558
[22:25] <Exagone313> issue is not fixed
[22:27] <Exagone313> ok I think I can just say, KDE is not stable in Ubuntu
[22:54] <Exagone313> I tried the kde backport 5.5, bug still here


[00:05] <mda123> Hi all, just wondering if anyone else has noticed Linux Mint graphics present in Xubuntu. It's relatively disconcerting.
[00:05] <mda123> http://i.4cdn.org/g/1461628880548.png (I uploaded it to /g/ - might be frowned upon here, sorry if so)
[00:06] <knome> mda123, which icon theme are you using?
[00:07] <mda123> A blue variant of Numix. Is that what could be causing this?
[00:07] <mda123> I didn't realise the icon theme could change such graphics, my bad.
[00:07] <knome> indeed.
[00:19] <pmatulis> is there a way to configure app autostarting other than using the GUI applets? like a simple text file?
[00:31] <pmatulis> ah, stuff under ~/.config/autostart
[02:12] <xubuntu15i> hi
[02:13] <xubuntu15i> todo bien
[02:13] <xubuntu15i> estamos ready?
[02:13] <xubuntu15i> todo tiene su lugar
[02:13] <xubuntu15i> Cristo te ama
[02:52] <zek> does anybody know how 16 perform compared to 15 with amd graphic card?
[07:14] <xubuntu95w> hey! running xubuntu 14.04 . Desktop is not ;oading. Please help
[07:15] <xubuntu95w> *desktop not loading
[09:35] <valsum> hey
[09:35] <Guest34819> anyone around? I'm on16.04 and I've a few notes... Don't know where to send them
[09:36] <Guest34819> hey
[09:37] <Guest34819> hello?
[10:28] <jarnos> I have a couple of Wilys I would like to upgrade. Is is possible use an ISO file for upgrading? (no clean install)
[10:38] <akxwi-dave> yes it is..
[10:58] <Teaboy> anyone noticed their terminal font looking weird after upgrading to 16.04?
[11:13] <ewet> does the xubuntu sound backend now mandate muroar? i got it installed (I got a very old, continuously upgraded, install) and sound only works with it disabled.
[12:00] <jarnos> In 16.04 is it possible to use different custom DPI settings (in Appearance settings) for different monitors in multi monitor setup?
[12:25] <Teaboy> argh now I've got the mouse cursor disappearing bug
[12:47] <jarnos> Teaboy, you mean after unlocking when using light-locker?
[12:53] <Teaboy> yeah
[12:54] <Teaboy> I had this problem on my laptop a few years ago, but never had it on my desktop until I upgraded to 16.04
[13:13] <akxwi-dave> are you using intel gpu's there is a problem eith it and intel gprahics
[13:15] <cfhowlett> vague complaint = vague suggestions.
[13:27] <Teaboy> akxwi-dave: yep, exactly
[13:27] <Teaboy> seems to be many issues with skylake
[13:40] <hoodedice> so the new gnome installer is not installing any of the .debs I'm downloading. I'm running xubuntu in a VM with windows as host, if that matters
[13:44] <krytarik> hoodedice: LP bug 1573206.
[13:44] <hoodedice> thanks krytarik
[14:29] <xubuntu94w> Hello all! Trying to install 16.04. USB-drive in and booted. Black screen with mouse cursor. And in the upper corner a text "A start job is running for ubuntu installer".
[14:29] <xubuntu94w> Any ideas? :)
[14:33] <pmatulis> xubuntu94w: i got the same. i went for the 'try without installing' option and then hit the 'install' icon you get on the Desktop
[14:35] <xubuntu94w> I didnt got that "try without installing option" at all :/
[14:35] <xubuntu94w> *get
[14:52] <jarnos> Teaboy, maybe you want to try different locker then.
[14:58] <jarnos> Teaboy, kill light-locker, disable automatic startup of Screen locker in "Session and Startup" dialog, install e.g. i3lock, use xfce4-settings-editor to edit key /general/LockCommand of xfce4-session to have string "i3lock". Does it work for you?
[15:00] <_maddy> hi!
[15:22] <xubuntu94w> Resolved the "A start job is running for ubuntu installer" situation by formatting first the hard drive and then trying to install Xubuntu.
[15:22] <xubuntu94w> There was Windows installed before formatting
[15:59] <pmatulis> i had ubuntu installed before installing :)
[16:06] <xubuntu68w> Hi! I am on Xubuntu 15.10, I want to make the update to Xenial Xerus 16.04 but the upgrade manager talk me about Kubuntu, is it just a typographic problem ? https://i.imgsafe.org/229e07f.png
[17:36] <xubuntu68w> Hi! I am on Xubuntu 15.10, I want to make the update to Xenial Xerus 16.04 but the upgrade manager talk me about Kubuntu, is it just a typographic problem ? https://i.imgsafe.org/229e07f.png
[19:34] <xubuntu49w> Is anyone working on an arm version of Xubuntu? Thanks
[19:39] <bekks> xubuntu49w: I bet someone in #ubuntu-arm does.
[19:53] <nairwolf> What do you use as default font on Xubuntu ?
[19:53] <mrkramps> nairwolf, depends on your version
[19:54] <nairwolf> I'm using 16.04
[19:55] <nairwolf> I would like to know what people prefers
[19:55] <mrkramps> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noto_fonts
[19:55] <nairwolf> I know it's something subjective but I would like some good advices
[19:55] <nairwolf> thanks ;)
[19:56] <nairwolf> mrkramps: Are you using noto serif or noto sans ?
[19:56] <mrkramps> nairwolf, i am not using 16.04 yet, but default should be noto sans
[19:57] <nairwolf> oh, yes, I konw that the default is noto sans, but I'm looking to know what people prefers and what they use
[19:57] <mrkramps> ah ok … well, personally i just use the default font from the xubuntu default settings
[19:58] <mrkramps> which had been droid sans until it was replaced by noto now
[19:58] <nairwolf> oh, ok ;)
[19:58] <nairwolf> Which version do you use ?
[19:58] <mrkramps> whereas noto is based on droid fonts
[19:58] <mrkramps> 14.04
[19:58] <nairwolf> ok, I've changed recently, and I'm trying to configure my system
[19:59] <mrkramps> before droid sans i was using dejavu sans iirc
[20:01] <mrkramps> nairwolf, you could also have a look at roboto fonts … all three are or had been default fonts for android
[20:02] <nairwolf> ok, thanks
[20:03] <nairwolf> I'm finding the render weird, so that's why I'm trying to configure my system...
[20:03] <nairwolf> I don't know why but the graphical appareance was better on 14.04
[20:03] <mrkramps> nairwolf, maybe test different hinting options
[20:05] <nairwolf> oh, yes, I hadn't the default pixelissation order (I'm not sure for the perfect term in english)
[20:05] <mrkramps> ah, sub-pixel order
[20:05] <nairwolf> that's right !
[20:06] <mrkramps> that's pretty vital
[20:07] <nairwolf> indeed ;) And do you know what is supposed to do the parameter "style of toolbar" in Appareance ?
[20:08] <mrkramps> nairwolf, how toolbars in applications are shown
[20:08] <mrkramps> just start mousepad and test it
[20:08] <nairwolf> I don't see any changes so it's weird...
[20:09] <nairwolf> maybe I don't really know what to look
[20:10] <mooman> Apologies if this is on a FAQ somewhere... But I just installed 16.04 (as a VM in VirtualBox which could be related), and opened up the 'Software' app for adding packages, and everything in the app is blank.
[20:10] <mooman> Known issue?  Or something with me running in a VM?
[20:10] <mrkramps> nairwolf, ok … mousepad not working
[20:10] <nairwolf> mrkramps: indeed ;)
[20:11] <nairwolf> mooman: let me verify
[20:11] <mooman> (Net access works fine, Settings -> 'Software updater' works fine...  Just not the 'Software' app)
[20:11] <mooman> thanks nairwolf
[20:12] <mooman> I see lots of empty boxes with [ ... ] in each
[20:12] <nairwolf> http://imgur.com/BZljMKll.png
[20:12] <nairwolf> But I had the first line with ... also
[20:12] <nairwolf> Just click on it, and you'll see them
[20:12] <nairwolf> maybe it's a bug, yes
[20:13] <Executioner> https://i.imgur.com/v1Tmfbs.jpg
[20:13] <nairwolf> As you can see my screenshot, it works
[20:13] <nairwolf> Executioner: What is that ?
[20:13] <nairwolf> Thank you mrkramps by the way
[20:14] <mrkramps> you're welcome
[20:15] <mooman> nairworf, here's what I get for mine: http://mooman.com/software.png
[20:15] <mooman> wold*
[20:15] <mooman> er, wolf*  ~sigh~
[20:16]  * mooman has avoided Win10 like the plague
[20:17] <nairwolf> mooman: Use the "tab"
[20:17] <nairwolf> mooman: that's pretty weird
[20:17] <mooman> tab?
[20:17] <nairwolf> Use the key tab to get my name
[20:18] <nairwolf> autocompletion
[20:18] <ondondil> IMHO this new software app sucks
[20:18] <nairwolf> ondondil: Tells that to Canonical
[20:18] <ondondil> It doesn't even display apps that have no gui
[20:18] <mooman> ah, didn't know this irc client had autocomplete.  Thought you meant there was a tab to get my Software tool working ;)
[20:21] <nairwolf> mooman: no, for Software tool, I don't know. It's a weird bug. I had the same thing but only with the first line. After clicking on this line, I've seen icons
[20:22] <mooman> gonne go dork with permissions and see if that has something to do with it
[20:23] <flocculant> ondondil: yup - no gui apps there as noted on release note
[20:23] <flocculant> personally I don't use it nor the old ubuntu software center - nothing to stop you doing the same :)
[20:24] <mooman_> Okay, I think I resolved this.  Appears to have been permission related..
[20:25] <mooman_> I made myself a full admin (it was set to 'Custom' before) and now I get software packages.
[20:30] <mooman_> anyway, thanks for the reality check :)
[20:33] <nairwolf> oh, numix is great as a theme for the window manager ;)
[21:01] <nairwolf> On 14.04 it was possible to create a shortcuts in the window manager to move the window on the left (You know, it divides your screen in two and the window occupies the left side). Do you know if it's still possible ? I don't find the correct action
[21:07] <mrkramps> nairwolf, Tile window to the DIRECTION
[21:09] <nairwolf> can you tell me the action before this and after that ? French translations are sometimes weird....
[21:09] <mrkramps> nairwolf, Move window to workspace 12
[21:09] <mrkramps> and Show Desktop
[21:11] <nairwolf> are you using 16.04 ?
[21:11] <mrkramps> nairwolf, as said 14.04 but with 4.12 ppa
[21:12] <nairwolf> that's weird, I don't find it... I'm seeing show desktop and move window to workspace 12 but they aren't close...
[21:12] <nairwolf> ok, I've found it !
[21:12] <mrkramps> nairwolf, and between these tow there are all the functions to place windows
[21:15] <nairwolf> the order is different on my system
[21:15] <mrkramps> ok
[21:45] <slick_> how does Kubuntu's channel have more users than us? I know for a fact XFCE has to have more users
[21:45] <slick_> Prolly because Konversation autojoins #kubuntu actually
[21:46] <nairwolf> oh, that's something called cheating ;)
[22:21] <cmb_> Struggling to get password-less login between machines on my local network working (via ssh; newly installed 16.04 on both machines). Followed my normal routine: ssh-keygen -t dsa (no passphrase); ssh-copy-id to the relevant machine. But no still getting prompted for a password by the remote machine after the newly generated key has been installed. See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16071736/
[22:25] <cmb_> Ahhh, sorted my ssh/passwordless login problem. Just use RSA keys rather than DSA ones.
[22:42] <xubuntu15w> Hello, I need help mounting an SD card
[22:42] <xubuntu15w> it is recognized, but won't mount
[22:43] <xubuntu15w> Error mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 at /media/alex/3630-6362: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,namecase=0,errors=remount-ro,umask=0077" "/dev/mmcblk0p1" "/media/alex/3630-6362"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'
[22:43] <xubuntu15w> That is the error message ^
[22:46] <mrkramps> xubuntu15w, you probably have to install exfat-fuse and exfat-utils
[22:47] <xubuntu15w> Sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse?
[22:47] <mrkramps> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[22:47] <xubuntu15w> followed by the same command for the exfat-utils?
[22:47] <xubuntu15w> alright
[22:48] <mrkramps> you can install multiple packages with one command
[22:49] <xubuntu15w> That's convenient
[22:55] <xubuntu15w> mrkramps, that resolved my issue -- thanks
[22:56] <mrkramps> you're welcome
[23:03] <ranta> How do I change the background to lightdm?


[00:44] <timClicks> are there good instructions about setting up an apt-get cache anywhere
[00:44] <timClicks> I don't want to mirror the whole repo
[00:44] <timClicks> but only want to download packages once and then promulgate them to about 4 computers I have at home
[00:47] <mwhudson> timClicks: apt-zeroconf maybe>
[00:47] <mwhudson> ?
[00:47]  * timClicks looks
[00:48] <mwhudson> timClicks: there is also apt-cacher-ng
[01:22] <snail> afternoon everyone
[02:00] <hads> timClicks: Check out squid-deb-proxy it's easy and mostly automatic.
[02:02] <hads> In the past I've tried apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng and now use squid-deb-proxy which is much more stable
[21:02] <ajmitch> morning
[21:12] <mwhudson> morning
[21:15] <ibeardslee> oh yeah morning
[21:16] <ibeardslee> trying to track down why my PC restarted at 23:59 :(\
[21:34] <hads> Morning
[21:34] <hads> ajmitch: Will have more ALIX stock tomorrow or Friday probably.
[21:39] <ajmitch> hads: ok, that was fairly quick
[21:40] <ajmitch> I probably won't have time for it for a few weeks due to various things going on :)
[21:41] <hads> Cool, just wanted to give you a heads up - this time :)
[21:43] <ajmitch> heh, thanks :)
[22:02] <Atamira> mornin
[22:23] <ojwb> morning
[22:27] <snail> morngin all