[14:50] <gnutron> duvet: GRUB may not like xfs, ext3 is preferred. I would avoid lilo. keep asking.
[14:50] <iDevil> just curious.. sudo apt-cache search packname << correct format for searching?
[14:51] <scunizi> Toznoshio, I never knew that you could do that in FF with Apt..
[14:51] <gnutron> iDevil: correct
[14:51] <duvet> why avoid lilo?
[14:51] <iDevil> thanks
[14:51] <jrib> iDevil: sudo isn't needed
[14:51] <Speppa> How I can burn a mdf/mds image cd file on k3b?
[14:51] <Toznoshio> scunizi, that's apturl at work there
[14:51] <Ian_Corne> duvet: make a /boot partition as ext3 and use zfs for your /
[14:51] <duvet> ok
[14:51] <gnutron> duvet: ubuntu uses grub as deault, i havent used lilo since the redhat days.
[14:52] <duvet> :)
[14:52] <gnutron> duvet: default rather
[14:52] <duvet> instead of lilo?
[14:53] <scunizi> Speppa, I think you have to convert it to an iso
[14:53] <gnutron> duvet:  correct
[14:53] <duvet> ok thanks
[14:53] <iSchadow> can anyone help me get my screen brightness buttons working on my laptop, in 8.10?
[14:53] <gnutron> !grub > duvet
[14:54] <Ian_Corne> ubuntu using grub by default makes it easier when you have kernel updates, they adapt the menu.list for you :)
[14:54] <Speppa> scunizi, ok thanks
[14:55] <gnutron> someone convince me upgrading from hardy to intrepid isnt premature!?
[14:56] <rjune> depends on what you need.
[14:56] <scunizi> gnutron, if you are having issues with hardy, sometimes intrepid can fix it.. it did with me..
[14:56] <Ian_Corne> i'm using intrepid because i like to know that i'm using the latest versions of software
[14:57] <gnutron> i've never had dist-upgrade problems since ubuntu's inception, but intrepid scares me and hardy works perfectly.
[14:57] <Ian_Corne> i'll be using the alpha 4/5 of jaunty too
[14:57] <scunizi> gnutron, if hardy works don't fix it..
[14:57] <gnutron> Ian_Corne: thanks for the input.
[14:57] <AdvoWork> i know with rsync and ssh you can do rsync ssh i and use a file for a ssh key, but what about without using ssh?
[14:57] <gnutron> scunizi: thanks
[14:57] <frostburn> i'm using intrepid because i know it's not the latest, but the most stable of the latest...
[14:57] <frostburn> running on the bleeding edge hemorrhages...
[14:58] <AdvoWork> ie if im doing: rsync -a -u "$FileName" $username@$host:$Backup_locationConfigLocal  but i need to pass the key from the ssh file
[14:58] <leafw> any ideas why bluetooth applet may show the "Browse device" greyed out? I have the hardware switch on, bluetooth enabled in the BIOS, and enabled in the session and in the services. I even did sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart, to no avail
[14:58] <leafw> bluetooth worked fine a few weeks ago.
[14:58] <scunizi> gnutron, unless you really like living on the edge :)..  but if you actually use the machine for work or something important... stay where you're at.
[14:59] <five_> can someone help me with setting up a wpa tkip peap connection
[14:59] <gnutron> scunizi: the edge is good :)  multiple boxes means lots of tweaking though :)
[14:59] <mikevankuik> can anyone help me with my script and getting it to run @boot time? :( pls?
[15:00] <scunizi> gnutron, with lots of boxes you gotta have at least one for a test bed.. right?  ..( just trying to help you find an excuse to upgrade)
[15:00] <tiyowan> gnutron: I came over to intrepid a week ago from winxp. Had to do some tweaking, but I'm *very* pleased with the results.
[15:01] <gnutron> scunizi: thats precisely what i need, a little pushing, thanks
[15:01]  * scunizi jumps up and down
[15:01] <tiyowan> gnutron: Just upgrade over the weekend. :-)
[15:02] <mikevankuik> I can run the script from its folder but ubuntu won't accept it in its startup file :S
[15:02] <c9s> hi all, is there any recommended wave editor ?
[15:02] <iSchadow> anyone know a temperature monitor app for linux?
[15:02] <tiyowan> c9s...maybe audacity?
[15:02] <gnutron> c9s: audacity i believe
[15:03] <Ximal> would i need to reboot after uninstalling tor and it's subsidaries ?
[15:03] <tiyowan> iSchadow: Yeah....either use Conky or there is a CPU temp. monitor applet available which you can put on your panel.\
[15:03] <bastid_raZor> iSchadow; lm-sensors will be the program needed. then you could use something like conky or the sensor appelt for your toolbar
[15:03] <jxander> if i copy some text from an application and then i close the application, i lose the copied text. why?
[15:03] <jxander> under xfce
[15:04] <matic_> why would my Hardy refuse to mount drives like flash, cd/dvd and ntfs partition?
[15:04] <iSchadow> I just need something to monitor my cpu/gpu once in a while
[15:04] <iSchadow> Im-sensors?
[15:04] <rjune> lmsensors
[15:04] <c9s> thanks :)
[15:04] <rjune> that's an L, not an I
[15:04] <bullgard4> In Gutsy Ubuntu provided a package 'linhdd'. Why does Ubuntu not provide it in Hardy any more?
[15:04] <tiyowan> iSchadow: The cpu temp applet should do the trick. But I think Conky's much better if you've got some time to tweak around. It monitors *everything*. :-)
[15:04] <heinrich> hddtemp
[15:05] <kwtm> If I want to see who has been trying to connect to my computer (e.g. SSH into a certain port), which log file do I check under /var/logs?
[15:05] <bullgard4> matic_: Because you played with Hardy and misconfigured it.
[15:06] <tiyowan> iSchadow: Here's some of the stuff you can do with conky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&highlight=conky
[15:06] <iSchadow> tiyowan: will it also let me raise the tolerated temps?
[15:06] <gnutron> Ximal: restarting x may be useful, a hard boot isn't likely needed.
[15:06] <gnutron> kwtm: /var/log/auth.log
[15:07] <Ximal> thanks gnutron .. i got 12 minutes left on an episode of friday night lights ... and then i'll be doing it..
[15:07] <mikevankuik> anyone here who can help me with my non starting at boot script?:(
[15:07] <tiyowan> iSchadow: I don't think so. Conky is a system monitor I believe. If you're running the dell inspiron 8000 series, you could use the i8kutils package to manage your CPU fans and temp.
[15:07] <Ximal> btw restarting x is /etc/init.d/xorg restart ?
[15:08] <matic_> bullgard4, you are right, what might I have tampered with?
[15:08] <iSchadow> well most of my hardware is intel
[15:08] <gnutron> Ximal: negative, if using gnome, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart or ctrl+alt+backspace might work.
[15:08] <bastid_raZor> tiyowan; iSchadow the actual package name is lm-sensors
[15:08] <Ximal> i'm using basic ubuntu gui
[15:08] <kwtm> gnutron: Thanks. I just checked, and I don't find any entries where I tried to SSH in from another computer. What network-related thing can I do to make sure something shows up in the log?
[15:08] <bastid_raZor> Ximal; replace xorg with gdm and that will also make X restart
[15:09] <iSchadow> bastid_raZor: can't find it with apt-get??
[15:09] <tiyowan> Ok folks, here's an interesting problem. The other day someone had trouble booting from an intrepid install on a usb. An error kept coming, "Stale NFS lock". I've been searching for it but I can't find any info. Has anyone ever encountered this before?
[15:09] <gnutron> Ximal: gksudo /etc/init.d/gdm from the gui or sudo from a terminal
[15:09] <kwtm> gnutron: for example, could I say "telnet localhost:25" --would that then show up in /var/log/auth.log for sure, to make sure I'm looking at the right log?
[15:09] <Ximal> thanks bastid_raZor..
[15:09] <ikonia> tiyowan soundsl ike they made the image from a box that was running NFS
[15:09] <ikonia> Ximal: no joy with tor so far,
[15:09] <gnutron> kwtm: i would say yes
[15:10] <Ximal> it's ok..
[15:10] <jtaji> Kwitschibo: the syntax would be telnet localhost 25
[15:10] <Ximal> i'm going to reinstall tor once i reboot x
[15:10] <Ximal> and then i'm going to install tork first
[15:10] <jtaji> kwtm: the syntax would be telnet localhost 25
[15:10] <gnutron> kwtm: /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog are useful also
[15:10] <bastid_raZor> iSchadow; http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lm-sensors&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[15:10] <Ximal> as i haven't done this completely yet... i think it would be pertint to have people install tork as a primary function when installing tor
[15:11] <bullgard4> matic_: Please check first the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'. Secondly, check the output of 'mount'. May be you will find some abnormal lines there and get an idea why.
[15:11] <tiyowan> ikonia: I checked out NFS, from what I read on the man page, it's a network file share right? My question is, how would one go about fixing it? I mean is there a kernel option to ignore NFS shares or something? There's a cmd fileshareset, but I don't know. I'm just curious as to how one would fix something like this.
[15:11] <kwtm> gnutron, jtaji: Wow, it did show up. (I did "ssh localhost -p 22".)  But none of my other attempts did.  Okay, that helps me debug.  Thanks.
[15:11] <bastid_raZor> iSchadow; hardy-proposed repo's is where it is. if you're using hardy
[15:11] <iSchadow> bastid_raZor: I'm using ibex and I have enabled all repos but I still can't find it there
[15:12] <nauticalthinker> any of you use ie6 under wine?
[15:12] <ikonia> nauticalthinker no
[15:12] <ikonia> nauticalthinker: firefox works fine
[15:12] <gnutron> kwtm: in a term use sudo tail -f /var/log/auth.log to watch as the file is written in real time
[15:12] <Ximal> why would u want internet explorer ?
[15:12] <iSchadow> nauticalthinker: question, why IE?
[15:12] <bastid_raZor> iSchadow; http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/lm-sensors
[15:12] <iSchadow> lol at the "why"s
[15:12] <nauticalthinker> lol...I need it for full access to OWA
[15:13] <ataufik> dear all... what is the program should I use to as vpn client / dialer in Intrepid? currently vpnc package is already installed. The modem I use was Merlin U630 which not been detected by NM and therefore I have to connet using manual wvdial...
[15:13] <nauticalthinker> It's working great, but there's a huge memory leak
[15:13] <iSchadow> nauticalthinker: you can download an IE addon for firefox
[15:13] <ikonia> nauticalthinker: so what do you want ubuntu do to about it ?
[15:13] <nauticalthinker> just asking if any of you have seen this and discovered a workaround or fix
[15:13] <scunizi> nauticalthinker, there's ie4linux out there.. but it's mostly for testing web pages etc.. it won't allow you to use sites that are explicitly designed for ie6+
[15:13] <nauticalthinker> that is what I used ie4linux
[15:13] <tiyowan> ikonia: I'm going afk, send me a pm if you can think of something or provide any links to resources. Thanks in advance.
[15:13] <ikonia> tiyowan: links on what ?
[15:14] <kwtm> gnutron: Good idea.  Thanks.  But now I need my wife's computer to see if a computer can connect from within my LAN, and if it can, then it's my router blocking the SSH attempt. <sigh> I hate debugging this DD-WRT router. :P
[15:14] <kwtm> gnutron: will debug later.  THx for help.
[15:14] <zetix> hello
[15:14] <ikonia> tiyowan: are you having this problem - as you said it was someone else
[15:14] <Toznoshio> nauticalthinker, use the user agent switcher FF addon
[15:14] <gnutron> kwtm: i use dd-wrt its great
[15:15] <scunizi> nauticalthinker, a lot of times the agent switcher in FF doesn't work because of the asp and directx that's involved with some sites.. I solved this by installing windows in virtualbox
[15:15] <kwtm> gnutron: DD-WRT: lots of features, but user interface can be confusing. (Why is port forwarding under "gaming"!??)  Anyway, see ya!
[15:15] <dalekleader> anyone familiar with vmware, I installed 6.5 on intrepid and now usb device cannot mount.  I get 'special device does not exit'
[15:15] <mikevankuik> help?
[15:16] <dalekleader> ?
[15:16] <mikevankuik> I'm trying to get some :P but did not succeed yet :P
[15:16] <ataufik> dear all... what is the program should I use to as vpn client / dialer in Intrepid? currently vpnc package is already installed. The modem I use is Merlin U630 which not been detected by NM and therefore I have to connet to internet using manual wvdial...
[15:16] <ikonia> mikevankuik ask a question then
[15:17] <Ximal> ok... that's funny
[15:17] <Ximal> err sorry channel.. wrong window
[15:17] <Faust-C> after upgrading to 8.10 my system upon reboot gives file system is read only
[15:17] <Faust-C> then i have to manually make it r/w
[15:17] <Faust-C> is this a known issue?
[15:17] <mikevankuik> I did :P but no reaction :D but I've got this script that I want to run at boot time :) but it won't because of something wrong with the syntax it needs to be SLM or something
[15:17] <Ximal> ikonia ... u there
[15:17] <LjL> esenoy: does modprobe -r remove it?
[15:17] <ikonia> yes
[15:18] <Ximal> did u get thar one...err that...
[15:18] <esenoy> LjL: no, it didn't wors
[15:18] <esenoy> twork
[15:18] <bravo> how to impress someone to use Ubuntu?
[15:18] <bravo> ideas pls !
[15:19] <bravo> :D
[15:19] <esenoy> compiz
[15:19] <LjL> !ot | bravo
[15:19] <dalekleader> bravo: the support community
[15:19] <esenoy> LjL: how can I force a module to unload?
[15:20] <dalekleader> anyone have anything for my usb mounting problem?
[15:20] <esenoy> dalekleader: is vfat?
[15:20] <mikevankuik> ikonia: ?
[15:20] <LjL> esenoy: i don't know, modprobe -r usually manages to remove them for me.  does lsmod not give any clue why it's in use?
[15:20] <mikevankuik> I did  but no reaction  but I've got this script that I want to run at boot time  but it won't because of something wrong with the syntax it needs to be SLM or something
[15:20] <ataufik> how to make connction using Merlin U630 detected by NetworkManager?
[15:20] <danub> how to dyou mount a DLT tape?
[15:21] <danub> mount ? /dev/tape/tape0_d1 /mnt/point/
[15:21] <esenoy> LjL: I've even blacklisted it with no results
[15:21] <danub> what is the ? options supposed to be?
[15:21] <ikonia> you don't mount a tape
[15:21] <ikonia> danub: you don't mount a tape
[15:21] <dalekleader> esenoy: no
[15:21] <esenoy> LjL: I simply can't stop using it...
[15:21] <scunizi> dalekleader, I've had issues lately with vmware and have switched to vbox.. both are good but it seems vbox is a tad easier and more fun for some reason.
[15:21] <danub> dang it... how am i supposed to browse it then?
[15:21] <LjL> esenoy: which modules is it anyway
[15:22] <bravo> wat is difference between sudo apt-get and sudo aptitude ???
[15:22] <esenoy> rt61 module
[15:22] <Ximal> ok .. i am back
[15:22] <LjL> !aptitude > bravo    (bravo, see the private message from ubottu)
[15:22] <esenoy> LjL: rt61 module
[15:22] <bravo> ?
[15:22] <mikevankuik> bravo: aptitude is a gui :) apt-get not :P
[15:22] <danub> how can i browse data on a tape then?
[15:22] <Ximal> now i'm getting a connection refused error when trying to use synaptics ikonia ...
[15:22] <ikonia> danub you don't browser it, it's an archive device, what's on it depends how it was written
[15:23] <danub> tar is what they used to compress it and put it on the tape
[15:23] <gnutron> bravo: they say aptitude deals with dependancies better than apt-get for starters
[15:23] <esenoy> LjL: I compiled it from source, but works very bad
[15:23] <dalekleader> scunizi: yes, I use vbox as well...but this always worked in the past and I have to remain compatible with the field
[15:23] <LjL> esenoy: so not rt61pci?
[15:23] <esenoy> LjL: now I can't unload it
[15:23] <LjL> danub: then you use tar
[15:23] <danub> i just wanna be able to zgrep it and see if the file i am looking for is on the tape without having to run tar
[15:23] <scunizi> dalekleader, have you checked #vmware? at least I think that's the channel
[15:23] <LjL> danub: for instance, tar f /dev/whateverthetapeiscalled
[15:23] <danub> what is the f do?
[15:23] <esenoy> LjL: and blacklist it don't seems to work
[15:24] <mikevankuik> bravo: I use aptitude if I don't know the correct name of a package :) if I do I just use apt-get :)
[15:24] <dalekleader> i haven't because vmware isn't running at this point and I can't even mount the drive
[15:24] <rafting> I'm so tired of this. I do: lspci | grep -i vga ; ndis ; etc. I don't find ndiswrapper. It should come with booter right(I use an USB-booter)? The network I use with Vista is detected(I am dualbooting and don't have problems with Vista) but when I try to authenticate it doesnt happen, I am positive I give the correct code(the weird thing is it shows another code if i click show password, is that the encryption?). Do I always need ndiswrap
[15:24] <danub> oh ok
[15:24] <Ximal> umm ikonia ... or anyone else with tor uninstallation experience ... I went through synaptics to uninstall tor and i come up with this now when i try to use the add remove or the synaptic installer/pacman ..
[15:24] <LjL> danub: lets you specify a file
[15:25] <danub> yeah, thats not what i am looking for though :(
[15:25] <LjL> danub: then you could, for instance, use the "t" flag (or "-list" option) to list the contents
[15:25] <gnutron> mikevankuik: aptitude is gui?  ...nay, synaptic is though. i may be wrong.
[15:25] <Ximal> and now i get this http://pastebin.ca/1281711
[15:25] <LjL> danub: is it .tar, or tar.gz? because if it's just .tar, there's no reason to *z*grep it...
[15:25] <bravo> upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 safe?? or i need to install fresh copy ??
[15:26] <danub> LjL no idea, i cant mount a tape
[15:26] <mikevankuik> gnutron: its not a x type gui :) but consider it a "dos like" gui thingy :)
[15:26] <muppo> hello, i've been trying to setup my usb sound-card but i seem to be in need of some help, http://paste.ubuntu.com/83546/
[15:26] <LjL> danub: then type "file /dev/tape", it will tell you what sort of stuff it is
[15:26] <Shrini> I use "apt-cdrom add". but it says can not mount device
[15:26] <LjL> danub: (note when i say "/dev/tape" i mean it as a shorthand to whatever the device is actually called)
[15:26] <dalekleader> scunizi, esenoy: if I fdisk -l, I see the usb drive but mount comes back with special device
[15:26] <gnutron> Ximal: thats a Tor proxy problem
[15:27] <danub> cant open device for reading
[15:27] <LjL> danub: might need sudo
[15:27] <danub> cannot open for reading rather
[15:27] <gnutron> mikevankuik: roger that then :)
[15:27] <danub> nah im root on that system
[15:27] <Ximal> well gnutron i can't seem to figure the issue out or how to undo tor long enough to install a tor handler such as tork
[15:27] <scunizi> dalekleader, usb can be connected to the vm or ubuntu but not both.. so it sounds like it's connected to the vm..
[15:27] <danub> its an old AIX system
[15:27] <mikevankuik> gnutron: you've got any experiance with running scripts on boottime?
[15:27] <esenoy> dalekleader: and sudo mount - don't work?
[15:27] <dalekleader> scunizi, even w/o vmware running?
[15:28] <esenoy> dalekleader: and sudo mount -a don't work?
[15:28] <LjL> danub: it seems you probably need to initialize it or something, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502206
[15:28] <dalekleader> esenoy, nope
[15:28] <rafting> I'm so tired of this. I do: lspci | grep -i vga ; ndis ; etc. I don't find ndiswrapper. It should come with booter right(I use an USB-booter)? The network I use with Vista is detected(I am dualbooting and don't have problems with Vista) but when I try to authenticate it doesnt happen, I am positive I give the correct code(the weird thing is it shows another code if i click show password, is that the encryption?). Do I always need ndiswrap
[15:28] <dalekleader> esenoy, not in fstab
[15:28] <danub> ok, ill go search the AIX forums to see if i am missing something about tape devices
[15:28] <gnutron> mikevankuik: ive been up all night, i don't dare advise on that, but its not to difficult.
[15:28] <esenoy> dalekleader: I don't know, then...
[15:29] <scunizi> dalekleader, vmware services are alway running in the background.. that's one of the differences with vbox.. if vmware has been setup to start on boot and load a vm.. it's quite possible that's what's grabbing the usb.. if you have a different machine you should be able to connect to the vmware server if you have the "shortcut link"
[15:29] <mikevankuik> gnutron: :P gehehe ok :) you might want to hit the sack then ;) :P sleep does miracles I've been told ;)
[15:29] <Hideme_> Any ideas why sound just stops working in Ubuntu 8.10?
[15:29] <gnutron> Ximal: is your /etc/hosts file messed up per chance?
[15:29] <esenoy> LjL: Can I remove the module manually? Where is the module located?
[15:30] <ataufik> how to make connction using Merlin U630 detected by NetworkManager?
[15:30] <scunizi> dalekleader, vmware can load the vm without displaying it graphically on your screen
[15:31] <dalekleader> scunizi, ty, i am testing another usb to be sure..i have a server downstairs with vmware server 2.0 but have no more resources for a 3rd image :(
[15:31] <rafting> I'm so tired of this. I do: lspci | grep -i vga ; ndis ; etc. I don't find ndiswrapper. It should come with booter right(I use an USB-booter)? The network I use with Vista is detected(I am dualbooting and don't have problems with Vista) but when I try to authenticate it doesnt happen, I am positive I give the correct code(the weird thing is it shows another code if i click show password, is that the encryption?). Do I always need ndiswrap
[15:31] <scunizi> dalekleader, by resources you mean ram, or storage?
[15:32] <LjL> esenoy: somewhere in /lib/modules, use "find /lib/modules | grep rt61"
[15:32] <dalekleader> scunizi: ram
[15:32] <esenoy> LjL: Ok... I located the module (rt61.ko), but before deleting it I need to know if there is some file that calls for it
[15:32] <gnutron> esenoy: lsmod in a terminal lists, modules modprobe -r <module> removes it.
[15:32] <rconan> hello, I have a wierd problem with my sound. When I run "speaker-test -Dsurround71 -c8 the sound for "Centre" comes of of the Side Right speaker, the sound for "Side Right" comes out of the Rear Right speaker and I don't hear the sound for "Rear Right" or "LFE"
[15:32] <esenoy> LjL: Is anywhere a file that calls for modules?
[15:32] <n8tuser> rafting what are you trying to find?
[15:32] <LjL> esenoy, you said you compiled it yourself, no?
[15:33] <scunizi> dalekleader, ah.. you don't have to load all the images at the same time.. unless of course they are different appliances that are used all the time..
[15:33] <esenoy> gnutron: rmmod and modprobe didn't work...
[15:33] <lut4rp> anyoe running Ubuntu on the just updated macbook/macbook pro ?
[15:33] <esenoy> LjL: yes
[15:33] <aphesz> is it possible to use 8.10's 2.6.27 kernel on 8.04? will there be complications?
[15:33] <LjL> esenoy: then you can remove it safely
[15:33] <rafting> n8tuser: im trying to get wireless running ubuntu 8.10
[15:33] <LjL> aphesz: complications.
[15:34] <esenoy> LjL: nice... I only have to delete file, isn't it?
[15:34] <dalekleader> scunizi, I need them all, I am trying to test a system and this 5th image is giving me head ache, thanks for your time i am going to check #vmware
[15:34] <Ximal> hey gnutron i am sending u a pm ... i'm having trouble keeping up with all the chatter in this channel
[15:34] <scunizi> lut4rp, do you have a more specific question?  that one's kinda broad and leading
[15:34] <n8tuser> rafting-> what type of wifi interface? usb dongle? what chip it uses?
[15:34] <scunizi> dalekleader, np
[15:34] <dalekleader> esenoy, thx for you time i am going to check #vmware if it exists
[15:34] <aphesz> LjL: to apps ? drivers? everything?
[15:34] <recon69> havin problems with my net connection, was scanning my IP address to see what ports where in use, several ports show as open with no service and the port numbers keep chaning every few seconds. This is happening even when I have not net apps running and a fire wall up. anyone know what the cause might be? the port numbers are all high like 44512
[15:34] <esenoy> dalekleader: np... good luck!
[15:35] <lut4rp> scunizi, i am confirming if it works fine without any serious problems. :)
[15:35] <scunizi> lut4rp, that is a totally different question.. have  you tried booting to a live cd?
[15:35] <muppo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83546/ anyone know what i've missed?
[15:35] <n8tuser> recon69-> what is your ip address? and are you scanning your own ip address? which tool?
[15:36] <jolter> Hello guys! I downloaded the ubuntu 8.10 iso file and buned it to a disc. Does not Ubuntu 8.10 contain an Graphical installation guid? because when I inserted the disc and booted up I only got into the non graphical mode
[15:36] <noxo> Hello
[15:36] <lut4rp> scunizi, ahha I am about to buy one :) and I am confirming if someone has already done it!
[15:36] <noxo> I'll soon find out
[15:36] <muppo> its for my usb sound card
[15:36] <LjL> aphesz: mostly system mechanisms for doing core stuff such as (un)plugging and things like that. if you need that kernel, just install intrepid is a much safer option.
[15:36] <scunizi> lut4rp, buy one?  you can get it for free.. www.ubuntu.com
[15:36] <scunizi> lut4rp, just download the iso and burn it.
[15:36] <n8tuser> jolter-> is it the livecd iso you downloaded for sure?
[15:36] <aphesz> LjL: ah. thanks for the info. cheers :D
[15:36] <lut4rp> scunizi, i'm totally confusing you.
[15:36] <recon69> n8tuser: I scanning my own local ip <IP_ADDRESS> and using netscan from system->nettools
[15:37] <lut4rp> scunizi, i am buying the new macbook.
[15:37] <jolter> n8tuser: hmm I hope so :D I've gotta check it :)
[15:37] <Hideme_> Any ideas why sound just stops working in Ubuntu 8.10 for no apparent reason?
[15:37] <Ximal> gnutron:  < >----(09:29:54 AM) gnutron: Ximal: is your /etc/hosts file messed up per chance? <--- i have no clue what this is
[15:37] <scunizi> lut4rp, ah..
[15:37] <recon69> Hideme_: pulseaudio
[15:38] <Ximal> hey gnutron ; http://pastebin.ca/1281716
[15:38] <n8tuser> recon69-> compare that result with a simple netstat -n  command
[15:38] <gnutron> Ximal: paste your /etc/hosts file in pm if you like, it's just a guess as to why the repo's refer to you with your loopback address
[15:38] <scunizi> Mac users out there! will ubuntu run on the newer macbook/pro ?? lut4rp wants to buy one but needs conformation..
[15:38] <AdvoWork> can you rm all files from a directory except a certain file?
[15:39] <jrib> AdvoWork: sure
[15:39] <n8tuser> AdvoWork-> yes you can, you may want to man rm  to see the options
[15:39] <gnutron> Ximal: your hosts file is just fine. must be something else
[15:39] <AdvoWork> actually, i dont think ill be able todo that
[15:39] <Toznoshio> scunizi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[15:39] <iSchadow> I installed Im-sensors now but why can't I find it?
[15:39] <jrib> AdvoWork: eh?
[15:40] <AdvoWork> im still able to remove everything from a folder/ arent i? if i just specify the folder/ so it gets everything within folder/
[15:40] <scunizi> lut4rp, ^__^  .. the post from Toznoshio has a link for y ou
[15:40] <jrib> AdvoWork: if you just run 'rm -r folder', yes
[15:40] <lut4rp> scunizi, yes, thanks. I found it.
[15:40] <jrib> AdvoWork: what exactly do you want to do?
[15:40] <AdvoWork> jrib, wont that remove the folder? i just want to remove the contents
[15:40] <gnutron> Ximal: tor is for anonymous browsing, could it be the apt-get problem? it uses proxy servers iirc
[15:41] <jrib> AdvoWork: I'm just responding to your last comment
[15:41] <Ximal> iirc ?
[15:41] <esenoy> LjL: I'm gonna try to delete module... THX (I think that my wifi will fall)
[15:41] <rafting> Is it possible for Ubuntu 8.10 to wotk with a Vista-driver without doing anything? I'm going crazy here because I can't even eliminate the possibilities. 1. Do I have to download a driver for Ubuntu? 2. Can I use ndiswrapper for Vista-drivers? 3. Which encryption method should I normall use?
[15:41] <recon69> n8tuser : "tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:55507      <IP_ADDRESS>:55507      TIME_WAIT " greped the port number and got <-
[15:41] <fivetwentysix> rafting: What kind of drivers?
[15:42] <fivetwentysix> rafting: I can tell you that I have installed directx 9 on Wine.
[15:42] <AdvoWork> jrib,  say ive got a folder  TEST in there ive got 100 files, i want to remove all the 100 files, but leave the folder in place
[15:42] <jolter> n8tuser: ohh I think i've downloaded the wrong version... the one that i've downloaded was called ubuntu 8.10-alternate-i386.iso but It should be ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso right?
[15:42] <gnutron> Ximal: if i recall correctly = iirc
[15:42] <n8tuser> jolter-> yes
[15:42] <scunizi> rafting, wpa or wpa2 for encryption but only after you get the wireless working.. as for the rest I'll leave that to someone else.
[15:42] <jolter> n8tuser: what a newbie I am :D
[15:43] <jrib> AdvoWork: rm -r TEST/*    but will miss . files.  What shell are you using?
[15:43] <Ximal> proxy server via apt-get ? i'm unsure how to fix this issue
[15:43] <iSchadow> how do I update GTK to the latest version
[15:43] <sergiumihai> hi
[15:43] <sergiumihai> ubuntu-ru totaly sucks
[15:43] <AdvoWork> jrib, there should be any .files but if there are can you somehow do that?
[15:43] <sergiumihai> ubuntu-ru team
[15:43] <jrib> AdvoWork: only if you answer my question :)
[15:44] <AdvoWork> bash
[15:44] <n8tuser> recon69-> can you complete the thought on that last post? am not following you
[15:44] <gnutron> Ximal: have you installed network stuff prior to  your apt-get errors
[15:44] <Ximal> only tor
[15:44] <Ximal> and then uninstalled and no good
[15:44] <Ximal> i can browse the web but nothing else
[15:45] <jrib> AdvoWork: well, this should work, but will give you errors you can ignore: rm -r TEST/{*,.*}
[15:45] <n8tuser> rafting-> what type of wifi interface? usb dongle? what chip it uses? <-- you have not responded to this
[15:45] <gnutron> Ximal: well, Tor may definetly disagree and not play nice with ubuntu repo's
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !tor
[15:45] <jolter> is there any reason to get the ubuntu 8.10 64bit version?
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jolter over 4 gigs of ram?
[15:46] <jolter> Jack_Sparrow: not really :D
[15:46] <AdvoWork> jrib, cheers will give it a go
[15:46] <fivetwentysix> jolter: over 2gb of ram?
[15:46] <gnutron> jolter: x86_64 can address more memory
[15:46] <jolter> fivetwentysix: no 512mb ram
[15:47] <sergiumihai> hey
[15:47] <jolter> gnutron: ok so no 64bit for me
[15:47] <jrib> AdvoWork: in zsh I just use *(D) to glob all files including dot files :)
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jolter 32 will be fine
[15:47] <recon69> n8tuser: well netstat -n gave a huge list of things so i greped for the open port 'netstat -n | grep "55507"'
[15:47] <sergiumihai> please remove ubuntu-ru from ubuntu support channels
[15:47] <Hideme_> recon69  what about pulseaudio?
[15:47] <sergiumihai> they kicked me and banned becouse i used the nikcname "pidgin" !
[15:47] <jolter> Jack_Sparrow: yeah I have it atm .. works fine :)
[15:47] <sergiumihai> they are russian idiots
[15:47] <jrib> sergiumihai: #ubuntu-irc can help you
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > sergiumihai
[15:48] <iSchadow> why doesn't Im-sensors show up anywhere in my system?
[15:48] <fivetwentysix> jolter, stick with 32-bit, 64-bit applications tend to use more memory since their long variables can hold much larger numbers which means taking up much more memory even if it's not being fully used
[15:48] <n8tuser> recon69-> and what is the exact output?
[15:48] <rafting> scunizi: after I got it working? so how o I get it working int he first place? the thing is I cant even figure iout what I need to fix so it is impossible to get somewhere
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> fivetwentysix good point that I had not considered
[15:48] <jolter> fivetwentysix: yeah i will do so :)
[15:49] <n8tuser> rafting-> what type of wifi interface? usb dongle? what chip it uses? <-- you have not responded to this
[15:49] <scunizi> rafting, others have ask you questions about what kind of wireless device it is etc.. without response.. maybe they will come back.. I don't have answers for you..
[15:49] <jolter> fivetwentysix: I would like to install ubuntu 8.10 on my mothers HP 6715s laptop but it does not work @ all :(
[15:49] <fivetwentysix> Although Linux has come a way to supporting 64-bit through a long and bumpy road, I think 64-bit has much less complications
[15:49] <recon69> Hideme_: well since i went to 8.04 and pluseaudio my sound cut out for a couple of seconds every hour or so and about one a week it stops totally saying my device is busy(have to kill pulse audio process and restart app to get sound again). check the ubuntu forums and you'll find more info
[15:49] <gnutron> iSchadow: not Im  it's lm-sensors, and i think you need an applet to interface w/lm-sensors.
[15:50] <fivetwentysix> That it did before..
[15:50] <fivetwentysix> jolter why not?
[15:50] <AdvoWork> jrib,  rm -r test/{*,.*} gives: rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'
[15:50] <iSchadow> gnutron: I downloaded all depencies, it should work?
[15:50] <jolter> fivetwentysix: I really dont know but i've been doing some readings about hp laptops and linux and that it's a bad combination but I dont know if that's true
[15:50] <jrib> AdvoWork: yep, those are the errors you ignore...
[15:51] <AdvoWork> ahh i see
[15:51] <jolter> fivetwentysix: but the PcLinuxOS did work on that laptop though
[15:51] <scunizi> rafting, n8tuser asked you a question.. he may have some answers.. and you are now ignoring him.. I don't get it..
[15:51] <rdw200169> AdvoWork: it would be a nightmare if you *could* delete . and ..
[15:51] <fivetwentysix> jolter: It sounds like it's a old laptop and ubuntu doesn't detect the display card or monitor.
[15:51] <recon69> n8tuser: unfortunately the network problems i'm having stop me from logging into secure sites and posting to paste bin :( , been driving me crazy for months now
[15:51] <jolter> fivetwentysix: but when I try to run the Ubuntu Live CD I get lots of error messages
[15:51] <fivetwentysix> How old is the laptop?
[15:51] <jolter> fivetwentysix: well it's and AMD 3800+
[15:52] <Ximal> is there a way for me to download via http the tork tor and privoxy packages ?
[15:52] <jrib> Ximal: apt-get
[15:52] <fivetwentysix> that's 3 years ago
[15:52] <fivetwentysix> yeah?
[15:52] <Ximal> jrib: no
[15:52] <rdw200169> Ximal: packages.ubuntu.com too, but that's a pain
[15:52] <recon69> jolter: have you tested the CD to make sure there are no error on it?
[15:52] <jrib> Ximal: yes... did you mean something different than what you asked?
[15:52] <Toznoshio> Ximal, would torbutton-extension work fr you alternatively?
[15:52] <n8tuser> recon69-> what other network problems you have?
[15:52] <Ximal> no it did not Toznoshio
[15:52] <jolter> recon69: yes because i've installed with it on other computers
[15:53] <fivetwentysix> recon69, come on, who gets cd errors these days...
[15:53] <AdvoWork> anyone know if rsync can delete files from a folder?
[15:53] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, you'd be supprised..
[15:53] <gnutron> fivetwentysix: burn a debian cd, worked for me when buntu would not
[15:53] <jolter> fivetwentysix: but the last version i've tried was hardy
[15:53] <nesakysiu> any1 knows good .cue splitter on ubuntu?
[15:53] <fivetwentysix> jolter, 8.10 is much more polished and has much better hardware support
[15:54] <n8tuser> recon69-> besides pastebin is not a secure site to paste..
[15:54] <fivetwentysix> jolter, you should give it a try.
[15:54] <jolter> fivetwentysix: yeah i'm going to burn 8.10 right now
[15:54] <fivetwentysix> jolter, my same computer im using now use to have wireless conflicts, graphic card glitches, and tons of other issues
[15:54] <Toznoshio> nesakysiu, cuetools ?
[15:55] <jolter> fivetwentysix: ok
[15:55] <fivetwentysix> jolter, I just switched back to Ubuntu from Vista and I think my hair isnt turning gray
[15:55] <recon69> n8tuser: even so, I can not currently use it, I just hangs and does nothing, I'l try pasteinit
[15:55] <jolter> fivetwentysix: haha :D
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> vista is too bloated
[15:55] <nesakysiu> Toznoshio where can i find it?
[15:55] <reduz> help! ubuntu doesn't let me change my IP to static in the network config window.. it stays with the dhcp assigned IP, how do i change it? :(
[15:55] <fivetwentysix> ActionParsnip, /agree, I wanted to pick up programming again
[15:55] <Toznoshio> nesakysiu, apt-get install cuetools
[15:56] <scunizi> reduz, click the unlock button before trying
[15:56] <fivetwentysix> ActionParsnip, But Vista has too many libraries they force you to use and makes compiling shit in that environment such a mess
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> reduz: try a different app or you can manually code it in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:56] <AlexOnRuby> woo
[15:56] <AlexOnRuby> lots of ppl
[15:56] <jolter> fivetwentysix: well in about 10 minutes i'm gonna give that laptop another try
[15:56] <reduz> scunizi, what unlock buttun? i don't see anything
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> fivetwentysix: ive not coded under vista, ive made dos apps only :)
[15:57] <reduz> ActionParsnip, but why a different app? it's supposed to be this one, i mean i go change the network to static IP and set everything fine, but the ip doesn't change when i close the window
[15:57] <fivetwentysix> I installed Direct X with Wine lol
[15:57] <scunizi> reduz, go to System>Admin>network  and change things there.. that's where the unlock button is.
[15:57] <jolter> fivetwentysix: Ubuntu 8.10 works really well on my Toshiba Tecra computer :)
[15:57] <AlexOnRuby> hello i am a vista user who begins to hate windows really bad. .. can i install ubuntu on one of my windows partition ?
[15:57] <AlexOnRuby> :D
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> reduz: ive never used apps like that, i just set it with the config file (im old school)
[15:57] <jolter> fivetwentysix: even though the computer is old :)
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> AlexOnRuby: you could use a VM
[15:58] <reduz> scunizi, there's no such thing as System > Admin > Network
[15:58] <reduz> scunizi, only network tools
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> AlexOnRuby: or dual boot
[15:58] <Toznoshio> AlexOnRuby, google wubi
[15:58] <AlexOnRuby> ok
[15:58] <AlexOnRuby> tx
[15:58] <fivetwentysix> AlexOnRuby, Sure, but you need a partition plan because Linux doesn't run off NTFS devices.
[15:58] <Hideme_> recon69  I killed it.... but how were you restarting it?
[15:59] <scunizi> reduz, ah.. I'm on hardy. you must be on intrepid.. I don't know if it's in the repos but. sudo apt-get install nm-appellate.. or do it by hand like it was mentioned before.
[15:59] <fivetwentysix> I personally don't see how people can bother dual booting..
[15:59] <n8tuser> reduz-> it may not be in your menu, but you can   gksu  network-admin &
[15:59] <fivetwentysix> Vista isn't that bad to make me want to dual boot with Linux...
[15:59] <error404notfound> how can I check if my connections are being going throw a  transparent squid proxy?
[15:59] <reduz> scunizi, E: Couldn't find package nm-appellat
[15:59] <recon69> n8tuser: no, pastebinit wont work either :(
[15:59] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, only if you're into games or have an absolute need for an app that only exists in win.
[15:59] <reduz> scunizi, sounds too difficult to do by hand
[15:59] <eth01>  netstat -tl
[16:00] <fivetwentysix> I would never want to dual boot, it's absolutely annoying.
[16:00] <urbands> applet
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: i game on all my linux machines
[16:00] <badawi> error404notfound: stop squid
[16:00] <Toznoshio> error404notfound, use a site called what is my ip address
[16:00] <fivetwentysix> scunizi: Solved, just install directx with wine...
[16:00] <dimebar> the only reason i dual boot is counterstrike
[16:00] <reduz> scunizi, also why doesn't the ubuntu network settings window work? isn't it a serious bug?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: CS runs great in wine
[16:00] <error404notfound> Toznoshio: that will give me my live ip address, what if proxy is running on the gateway..
[16:00] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, so you got directx to install.. doesn't mean the games will run
[16:00] <poss> :)
[16:01] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: it does but my usb headset doesnt :p
[16:01] <n8tuser> recon69-> well, if you have such a complex networking, perhaps you are an advance user and should be able to resolve this yourself
[16:01] <Toznoshio> error404notfound, AFAIK the site tells you about proxies too
[16:01] <scunizi> reduz, I haven't messed with it in intrepid so I couldn't tell you ..
[16:01] <fivetwentysix> scunizi, Isn't that all games depend on? Direct x?
[16:01] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, no
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: i see, id get a new headset then and save the space hogged by windows
[16:01] <bullgard4> In Gutsy Ubuntu provided a package 'linhdd'. Why does Ubuntu not provide it in Hardy any more?
[16:01] <fivetwentysix> I got hardware accelartion enabled
[16:01] <error404notfound> Toznoshio: can you tell me the url?
[16:02] <fivetwentysix> for my graphics card
[16:02] <fivetwentysix> I don't see why any game wouldn't work on my system.
[16:02] <recon69> n8tuser: complex? is a basic install of 8.04 using a wireless router . not complex about it except that it only half works
[16:02] <rjune> fivetwentysix, power.
[16:02] <rjune> libraries
[16:02] <scunizi> bullgard4, you have to ask the dev's about that.. maybe there's another package that's replaced it.
[16:02] <rjune> old versions of myth II soulblighter probably won't work.
[16:02] <daleklea1er> Q: I have 2 pc's (Xubuntu 8.04 and ubuntu 8.10) i am trying to get synergy to work but each machine has a different version.  How do you get access to the same packages?
[16:02] <fivetwentysix> Well anyways
[16:02] <bullgard4> scunizi: I have to? oO
[16:03] <Toznoshio> error404notfound, whatismyipaddress.com
[16:03] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: when my current one dies i may do but i can tolerate 2 or 3 boots to windows a week
[16:03] <n8tuser> recon69-> the way you have mumbled earlier, you made it sound so complex,
[16:03] <fivetwentysix> All I play is DotA/War3, that works with my operating system.
[16:03] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, good luck.. if it was that easy then winehq would have to rate different programs as to their functionality
[16:03] <fivetwentysix> scunizi: Wine ratings are based on how apps work with wine libs ...
[16:03] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; it is possible to enable the backports in 8.04 to get some of the 8.10 packages but that isn't always true.
[16:03] <LjL> bullgard4: most likely just because debian dropped it
[16:04] <fivetwentysix> scunizi: If you import Windows libs, it's like cheating.
[16:04] <rpfaff> my 3d acceleration works on my laptop but runs very slow on my second monitor, whats wrong?
[16:04] <scunizi> bullgard4, nobody here has an answer to why it's not in the repos for intrepid.. only the dev's can answer that question.
[16:04] <outboard> how did i break this  , ubuntu boots up to a comand line  not the gnome gui
[16:04] <bullgard4> LjL: Thank you.
[16:04] <Toznoshio> error404notfound, http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/advanced-proxy-test
[16:04] <ltineo> hello all
[16:04] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, ok.. give it a shot.. install something and report back your findings.
[16:04] <booksbuggy> outboard, what kind of command line did you get?
[16:05] <daleklea1er> bastid_raZor: would that mess up all packages?
[16:05] <remoteCTR1> .
[16:05] <outboard> command line login
[16:05] <ltineo> i have a little wireless problem with a compaq presario 2500 and broadcom
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: http://www.pcbypaul.com/software/dl/linHDD-0.4.tar.bz2
[16:05] <LjL> bullgard4: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-project%40lists.debian.org/msg14921.html
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: if you want it, compile it, make a deb and install the deb
[16:05] <booksbuggy> outboard, does it boot into the desktop after you enter the user name and password
[16:05] <n8tuser> outboard-> log on and look in /var/log/  for X logs
[16:05] <booksbuggy> outboard, not asking them just wondering if it went to the place
 nope
[16:06] <booksbuggy> oh
[16:06] <booksbuggy> strange
[16:06] <rpfaff> my 3d acceleration works on my laptop but runs very slow on my second monitor, whats wrong?
[16:06] <recon69> n8tuser: I could write a book and the number of different symptoms of networking trouble I having. but the setup is basic. two days ago i could cause a kernel panic using nmap on my router, now that stopped happening. get "connection interrupted" when logging into hotmail ect, nearly ready to go back to windows after 4 years
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: its your system. I'd just use a standard 3.5mm jack that plugs into the mic port on ANY souncard rather than some flashy (probably not supported) thing
[16:06] <n8tuser> ltineo-> thats a common problem, broadcom 43xx chip, but some are able to make it work
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | ltineo
[16:07] <Hideme_> recon69  ?
[16:07] <habit> Hello. Help me please - how much place on hdd will take full repository of intrepid? Including universe.
[16:07] <changeling> a lot?
[16:07] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; it would attempt to upgrade what packages are in the backports. you could try to just upgrade a specific package without doing a full update
[16:08] <obi_> can anyone point me in the direction of a good opensource PDF converter. or better still, tell me how to do it with the software that comes with ubuntu
[16:08] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; you have the option of allowing it to update them or not to.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> habit: lots. my gues would be a few Tb's
[16:08] <recon69> Hideme_: it'll restart itself, just restart the app you want sound from
[16:08] <n8tuser> recon69-> umm, when you say a router, a router in front of your ubuntu or the ubuntu acting as router itself?  you have all these external devices causing your issues?
[16:08] <Toznoshio> obi_, like pdfedit?
[16:08] <outboard> i have Xorg logs
[16:08] <ataufik> dear all... what is the program should I use to as vpn client / dialer in Intrepid? currently vpnc package is already installed. The modem I use is Merlin U630 which not been detected by NM and therefore I have to connet to internet using manual wvdial...
[16:08] <obi_> toznoshio: i assume, yes
[16:09] <daleklea1er> bastid_raZor, so if I enable the backport -> upgrade the 1 or 2 packages -> then disable I would be good?
[16:09] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: my 'system' is fine; usb headset works fine with ALSA just not with wine
[16:09] <Toznoshio> obi_, otherwise use the cups-pdf printer driver
[16:09] <ltineo> n8tuser and ubotttu: I followed a guide to make b43xx to work and it did work altough i needed to add wicd to the equation, but now my wireless is disabled and i cannot get it enabled
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> obi_: if you want to convert a file to pdf, you have a pdf printer installed by default, just print to it and one will be made
[16:09] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; yes, you would be fine.
[16:09] <Hideme_> wow.. that worked
[16:09] <Hideme_> thanks
[16:09] <habit> ActionParsnip, where can I check it?
[16:09] <[c0re]> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables...
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: strange
[16:09] <n8tuser> ltineo-> can you post in pastebin  the results of  cat /etc/network/interfaces
[16:10] <outboard> i have Xorg logs
[16:10] <daleklea1er> bastid_raZor, cool ty
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> habit: i'd email to repo maintainers and ask, its gonna be a fairly colossol figure
[16:10] <fivetwentysix> My network connection periodically spikes! I'm using a wireless connection, I have reason to believe it's the same cause that happens with Vista but was solved by using a third party app to disable periodic scan for wireless networks. Is there a way to disable this in Linux?
[16:10] <habit> We want to mirror ubuntu intrepid repo on our ISP, but first we need to know how much it takes plase.
[16:10] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; good luck :)
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> habit about 6 dvd's worth
[16:10] <obi_> actionparsnip: no from a pdf
[16:10] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: the headphones work fine just not the microphone.  I tried everything to get it working but gave up
[16:10] <bumm13> anyone here know what to do regarding an otherwise-functioning intrepid system but the keyboard and mouse refuse to work in X?
[16:10] <ltineo>  n8tuser: where?
[16:10] <habit> Jack_Sparrow, 6 dvd is ~25gb including universe?
[16:10] <n8tuser> !pastebin | ltineo
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !mirror
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: fair point. Im sure you got better things to do than mess with a mic
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> habit yes..
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> habit: plus backports,
[16:11] <recon69> n8tuser: it's a external G+ Mimo router, the problem is intermittent . and does not affect windows boxes , nearest bug report i found was bug #89160 but the solutions i tried did not help. tell me, should i get 3 pages of results from netstat -n ?
[16:11] <habit> Thanks a lot.
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:11] <ltineo> i will do so now one moment pls
[16:12] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: if I didn't have a working xp installation with only steam and cs installed i'd have persevered (or bought a new headset) but solving a software problem with extra hardware seems silly
[16:12] <AdvoWork> how can you unmount something when its giving this error: unmount error 16 = Device or resource busy  - its not busy or in use, so its stuck
[16:12] <n8tuser> fivetwentysix-> umm i think by design, wifi has to listen to beacons being broadcast, you can not possibly have your transmitter constantly on or else you'd flood the airwave noh?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: lsof | grep <mount point name>
[16:12] <Toznoshio> AdvoWork, use lsof to find out
[16:12] <daleklea1er> AdvoWork, best to close the process in use
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: that will show files open on the mount
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: you can then ps -ef | grep <thing> and kill its PID if the app is still running
[16:13] <n8tuser> recon69-> if the issue is you can not get wireless to work, lets resolve that, but dont get that confused with the results of netstat (services being active) .. two different issues
[16:13] <AdvoWork> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() cifs file system /home/theshare :S
[16:14] <recon69> Hideme_: it's only a temporary fix, you will likely have the same problem again. if it get to annoying look at removing pluseaudio and using the only sound system. I dont mind it that much and hope it will get fixed soon
[16:14] <n8tuser> AdvoWork-> actually   fuser -km /dev/sdxxx
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: can you run: lsof | less
[16:14] <n8tuser> AdvoWork-> but you dont want to kill the process using /  your root ..get it?
[16:14] <roger__> is there anyone that can help with copying ubuntu to another partition
[16:15] <Guest31409> When can I get the address of third party repositories
[16:15] <outboard> i have Xorg logs , n8tuser , i guss your helping me now
[16:15] <AdvoWork> ActionParsnip, i get the same error
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> roger__: is the partition you are copyin your / ?
[16:15] <ltineo> n8tuser and ubottu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83564/
[16:15] <scunizi> roger__, are you trying to move your /home?
[16:15] <roger__> i need all of ubuntu to another drive
[16:15] <n8tuser> outboard-> ill try, so go and look at that log to see what errors you have, and hopefully  get some hint on how to fix it
[16:16] <roger__> this drive it's on is old old 13gb ata66
[16:16] <roger__> and other drive is ata133 60gb
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> roger__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75251
[16:16] <LjL> roger__: and you're doing that by copying everything over to a SMB share...?
[16:16] <n8tuser> ltineo-> which chip does your wifi have again?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> roger__: the speed increase will be nice too :)
[16:16] <scunizi> roger__, use partimage to mirror the current partition and restore it to the other drive
[16:17] <roger__> is there a deb for partimage
[16:17] <LjL> !info partimage | roger__
[16:17] <outboard> n8tuser : n00b question=> what is the command for the command line editor ?
[16:17] <LjL> !packages > roger__    (roger__, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:17] <AdvoWork> should fuser -km /dev/sdxxx be sdxxx or replace with something else?
[16:17] <n8tuser> ltineo-> also try it without using encryption, ie set your AP to be open first then try the wpa once the on the clear works
[16:17] <ltineo> bcm4306
[16:17] <roger__> huh
[16:17] <scunizi> roger__, www.sysresccd.org
[16:17] <AdvoWork> n8tuser, what did you mena?
[16:18] <ltineo> the problem is that wicd doesn't see any wireless interface nor does ifconfig
[16:18] <scunizi> roger__, it's a live cd with partimage on it.
[16:18] <n8tuser> outboard-> may I suggest a tutorial on learning how to use linux?  btw, vim, nano, joe, pine are editors you can use
[16:18] <ltineo> i listed my wireless interfaces with lshw -C network and also with iwlist
[16:18] <roger__> i don't have blank cd's
[16:18] <recon69> n8tuser: my wireless works for some things. I just cant use certain sites, like gmail , hotmail, pastebin, a lot of forums ect. keep getting "connection interrupted" or a blank page. and it's intermittent , could work find for a week the stop. I been tring to figure this out for 6 months but every time i think i got a clue it turns out to be wrong.
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: replace sdxx with the partition name in /dev/ (e.g /dev/sda1)
[16:18] <n8tuser> AdvoWork-> if unclear ,  man  fuser please to get an idea on how to  use this tool
[16:18] <LjL> roger__: whatever you do, *don't* copy your installation over by making it go through a SMB share. if anything, tar it.
[16:19] <deadkode> n8tuser: pine works as a text editor?
[16:19] <roger__> i dunno what smb share is, but i'm not doing that
[16:19] <fletch> *Serious Question* I mounted my Windows Hard Drive onto my Linux Drive using NFTS Driver, but I named it wrong and I'm trying to reverse the process but it's not working, any suggestions?
[16:19] <scunizi> roger__, then you have a problem.. got a live cd? maybe you can apt-get partimage on the live cd and use it there.. I've never tried
[16:19] <n8tuser> deadkode-> second thing i lost is my memory, what do you expect :P
[16:20] <AdvoWork> tried it with sda1, 2, 3 nothing
[16:20] <Guest31409> Can we install Gtalk on ubuntu?
[16:20] <deadkode> Guest31409: you can use it with pidgin, which is an amazing im tool
[16:20] <scunizi> Guest31409, pidgin works for gtalk.. also wengophone
[16:20] <LjL> Guest31409: would that be GNU Talk, or Google Talk?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> roger__: you could mount both disks and use rsync: http://encodable.com/tech/blog/2006/10/30/Ubuntu_Linux_Hard_Drive_Upgrade
[16:21] <scunizi> ActionParsnip, nice link
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> LjL: would that work, looks massively cheeky
[16:21] <error404notfound> how can I copy an entire directory tree except a certain directory?
[16:21] <fletch> *Serious Question* I mounted my Windows Hard Drive onto my Linux Drive using NFTS Driver, but I named it wrong and I'm trying to reverse the process but it's not working, any suggestions?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: would that work, its sneaky as hell
[16:21] <LjL> ActionParsnip: i'm completely not familiar with rsync. myself, i would probably tar it.
[16:21] <roger__> ok after i copy this over i have to edit the fstab right to new drive
[16:22] <LjL> ActionParsnip: unless of course the two drives are both connected to the same computer, in which case i'd see nothing wrong with "cp"
[16:22] <scunizi> ActionParsnip, don't know.. the only thing it wouldn't get is the MBR and grub would have to be reinstalled.. also uuid references in fstab.. sounds like a headache
[16:22] <AdvoWork> so how else can i remove it then as i cant get any details of how or by what its being used by :S
[16:22] <Guest31409> deadkode: I am using it, but have issues of connection, when I start it. It does not show up my friends, i have to change the status for me to get connected .
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> LjL: just makes one directory look like another with comparisons every now and again, first one would see an empty drive and copy the data over
[16:22] <fletch> I mounted my Windows Hard Drive onto my Linux Drive using NFTS Driver, but I named it wrong and I'm trying to reverse the process but it's not working, any suggestions?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: true (tbh id go for a clean install)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> fletch: what did you name wrong?
[16:23] <LjL> Guest31409: as far as i'm aware, Google Talk uses the Jabber protocol (or more properly the XMPP protocol), which is an open-source instant messenging protocol, so you can use any Jabber/XMPP compatible client
[16:23] <matic_> fletch, did you backup the fstab
[16:23] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I added a space so like /media/Windows Drive
[16:23] <fletch> matic_: what do you mean?
[16:23] <Guest31409> LjL: Any for suggestion ?
[16:23] <scunizi> ActionParsnip, roger__ better to just make a partition for  /home .. copy it over  and do a fresh install without formatting /home
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> fletch: ok then use: sudo umount /media/Windows\ Drive
[16:24] <matic_> fletch, did you edit the file /etc/fstab?
[16:24] <ne2k__> it seems as though the new drivers/ata/pata_it821x driver in hardy/intrepid (2.6.24-22) is completely broken. it also seems that the drivers/ide/pci/it821x driver that worked in feisty (2.6.15-29) is still in the mainstream kernel (2.6.27-8), but has been removed from hardy/intrepid one. this means I need to use an old kernel on my intrepid server. any reason for this?
[16:24] <AdvoWork> also doing ls -all shows this weirdness: ?---------  ? ?        ?             ?                ? Backups
[16:24] <fletch> matic_: no
[16:24] <LjL> Guest31409: no, i wouldn't really know which to suggest, but "apt-cache search jabber client" and "apt-cache search xmpp client" shows quite a few
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> fletch: then rename / delete the mount point. try to avoid spaces in names, it causes headaches
[16:24] <fletch> ActionParsnip: did that, unmounted it, then wanted to rename or delete
[16:24] <Guest31409> LjL: Thanks.
[16:24] <rdw200169> Guest31409: Pidgin does XMPP
[16:24] <fletch> ActionParsnip: thats what I'm having issues with
[16:25] <rdw200169> Guest31409: and it works on Google Talk, i know this for a fact.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> fletch: then use: sudo mv /media/Windows\ Drive /media/<new name goes here buddy>
[16:25] <fletch> ActionParsnip: kind of a linux new
[16:25] <fletch> b
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> fletch: you'll learn
[16:25] <fletch> ActionParsnip: thanks man
[16:25] <LjL> Guest31409: you could try "gossip" and "ayttm", since they're GNOME programs
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> fletch: as I said, spaces arent really great in mount points
[16:26] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I love you, that works lol thanks
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> fletch: np man :D
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> fletch: mv = move
[16:26] <afallenhope|work> is there a way of making a LiveCD of my current ubuntu install?
[16:26] <scunizi> fletch, spaces aren't good in most places.. directory names, mount points, file names... etc
[16:26] <fletch> scunizi: yeah I learned the hard way lol
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> fletch: you moved the folder to be named a different name in the same location, effectively renaming it
[16:26] <fletch> ActionParsnip: so to remount?
[16:27] <bullgard4> LjL: Thank you for your thorough explanation.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> fletch: if you mounted it before, press up cursor til you see the old mount command and edit it appropriately
[16:28] <LjL> afallenhope|work: not very easily, i guess, but it should be possible
[16:28] <LjL> !customlivecd > afallenhope|work    (afallenhope|work, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:28] <LjL> !cloning > afallenhope|work    (afallenhope|work, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:28] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I did it visually with the NTFS driver, but it does not see the windows partition anymore
[16:28] <roger__> this partimage doesn't have a gui, it runs in a terminal, did i install it wrong or something
[16:28] <LjL> afallenhope|work: by combining those together, it should be doable. it'll take quite an amount of diskspace i suspect.
[16:28] <rpfaff> my 3d acceleration works on my laptop but runs very slow on my second monitor, whats wrong?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> fletch: what is the partition name in fdisk? /dev/sd?
[16:28] <LjL> roger__: no, it simply *is* a terminal program.
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> fletch: sudo fdisk -l will output the partitions. we just need its name
[16:29] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: LjL provided a thorough answer to the question which I put here in the channel. --  Thank you.
[16:29] <roger__> oh no
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> fletch: or you can reuse the app you used before
[16:29] <fletch> ActionParsnip: sda2
[16:29] <Ximal> i've been having trouble with tor and the like .. and i am wandering if there is any way to uninstall tor or to ensure synaptic can get access to the web ? if not i am ok to reinstall if i have too.. i just want to get this done because tor is messing up my ability to receive updates
[16:29] <scunizi> roger__, however it runs a type of menu system in the terminal.. so don't worry.. kinda like an old dos program
[16:29] <ikonia> Ximal did you install tor through synaptic ?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> fletch: sudo mount /dev/sda2 -t ntfs-3g /media/<mountpoint goes here buddy>/ -o uid=1000
[16:30] <LjL> Ximal: way to uninstall Tor? of course there is, like any program, you'd just "sudo apt-get remove tor"
[16:30] <scunizi> roger__, to start it type partimage in terminal after install.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: as long as you are happy, sweet :D
[16:30] <Ximal> yes ikonia ... and if i could find a way to download the entire repository i would just to be able to not have to deal with this issue..
[16:30] <ikonia> Ximal: dpkg can be used to remove tor
[16:30] <roger__> yeah i got it running now
[16:30] <Ximal> i tried removing tor through synaptic Ljl and now I cannot even get a connection to the update manager let alone synaptic or the apt-get
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> roger__: sweet :)
[16:30] <ikonia> Ximal: I'm trying to work out why tor is not working for you, it looks like a config issue, but I can't see where
[16:31] <fletch> ActionParsnip: copy that whole thing, even that stuff at the end there? lol
[16:31] <LjL> Ximal: you don't need any connection to remove packages. "sudo apt-get remove tor" won't connect to anything.
[16:31] <Ximal> well ikonia ... i'm trying to get synaptic to work and unfortunately uninstalling tor made things worse
[16:31] <roger__> i got a ext3 on my other drive already with a swap, so i just make a image and restore it to that right
[16:31] <ikonia> Ximal: I suggest you use dpkg to remove it and make sure your proxy settings for ubuntu (not firefox) are removed
[16:31] <Ximal> is there a way to turn off the instance of tor that is running ? just in case that's the problem ?
[16:31] <LjL> Ximal, do the commands "echo $http_proxy" and "echo $HTTP_PROXY" say anything?
[16:32] <fletch> ActionParsnip: that didn't work
[16:32] <ikonia> LjL: he's got a proxy setting for tor in his env, but as tor is not running it's causing an issue
[16:32] <LjL> ikonia: he's probably got a proxy setting for Privoxy though, not Tor itself
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> fletch: if its mounted then you dont need it, if you want it mounted auto at boot you will need to add something like that to /etc/fstab
[16:32] <ikonia> correct
[16:32] <ikonia> LjL: correct
[16:32] <Ximal> <IP_ADDRESS>;9050
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | fletch
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | fletch
[16:33] <Ximal> HTTP PROXY returned NO response but a clear file
[16:33] <LjL> Ximal: so type "export http_proxy=" and "export HTTP_PROXY=", and APT will resume working (only in that specific terminal, though).
[16:33] <rpfaff> when i enable visual effects it works fine on my laptop, but runs super super slow on my second monitor? help!
[16:33] <Ximal> ahh...
[16:33] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I'm using NTFS Configuration Tool, but it doesn't see that device anymore
[16:33] <Ximal> i wish i had known that before lj;
[16:33] <LjL> Ximal: you will probably fix the issue if you remove and purge the "privoxy" package
[16:33] <ikonia> LjL: nice idea
[16:34] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I'll figure it out, thanks for the help gtg
[16:35] <rockstarmike> Hey there, I'm having a problem with a lot of my text kind of blacked out and garbled...anyone want to take a look at a screen shot and see if they've seen it before?
[16:35] <Ximal> why is privoxy required to run tor though isn't it ?
[16:35] <ikonia> Ximal: prixoy is your proxy
[16:36] <powertool08> Does anyone know why alt+1 won't work to change to window one in my terminal
[16:36] <rockstarmike> everything ends up looking like the screenshots I posted here
[16:36] <rockstarmike> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[16:37] <MattJ> Guest31409: For the record Gajim is a good client
[16:37] <Ximal> oh wow ikonia .. privoxy was a bungled install
[16:37] <Ximal> this whole time..
[16:37] <scunizi> powertool08, ctrl+alt+f1
[16:37] <Ximal> i mean majorly
[16:37] <Ximal> i got synaptic to work for the moment... let u know the result shortly..
[16:37] <powertool08> scunizi: not the virtual terminal, like a single console window within X
[16:37] <scunizi> MattJ, you mean Gaim?  Gaim IS Pidgin
[16:38] <scunizi> powertool08, alt+f2
[16:38] <rockstarmike> :/
[16:38] <AdvoWork> whats going on here? rm -r ZimraBackupDir/ rm: cannot lstat `ZimraBackupDir/': Not a directory rm  ZimraBackupDir rm: cannot remove `ZimraBackupDir': Is a directory  its not, but then it is? :S
[16:39] <null_mind> on ubuntuforums.org, is the "Dell Ubuntu Support" forum only for owners of Dells with preinstalled ubuntu?
[16:39] <powertool08> scunizi: that opens a run dialog, for example, I use irssi, I can change to windows 2, 3, etc with alt+2 or alt+3, but alt+1 doesn't change to window 1
[16:39] <snsh> всем привет!
[16:39] <MattJ> scunizi: I know what I'm talking about, I mean Gajim :)
[16:39] <snsh> кто - нибудь говорит по-русски?
[16:39] <MattJ> !ru
[16:40] <rpfaff> when i enable visual effects it works fine on my laptop, but runs super super slow on my second monitor? help!
[16:40] <derdon> rpfaff: disable them
[16:40] <scunizi> powertool08, k.. I'm lost.. sorry.. I don't have the answer to that one.
[16:40] <Ximal> hey ... is tor automatically ran at startup ?
[16:40] <powertool08> scunizi: ok, thanks anyway
[16:40] <semo> hi. my friend has a problem with her W-LAN. the AP she wants to connect dont accept the right password ubt is worked days before
[16:40] <kubuc> hi, i have a question. Looking at my desktop it seams to run in less colors then i want. I have ATI HD2400 XT, apearently it runs on xserver-xorg-radeon, why isnt the xserver-xorg-radeonhd installe dper default? And how to alter color depth?
[16:42] <rpfaff> derdon: not quite the solution im looking for
[16:42] <rpfaff> when i enable visual effects it works fine on my laptop, but runs super super slow on my second monitor? help!
[16:42] <kubuc> rpfaff, it depends if you can get the hardware acceleration running i gues
[16:43] <derdon> rpfaff: the information have to be sent from your laptop to your monitor. that takes time
[16:43] <Zzeiss> I'm having a problem compiling libdvdcss.  When I run .configure --prefix=/usr, I get "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check.  See `config.log' for more details."  Any ideas?
[16:43] <revmoo> quick question, how do I completely disable window shade? There is an ubuntu bug where if my scroll wheel moves while going over a titlebar it rolls up the whole window. How do I disable this behavior?
[16:43] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[16:44] <rpfaff> kubuc: it does work, on my laptop just fine. my second monitor is almost unresponsive its so slow
[16:44] <allsystemsarego> revmoo, System-Prefs-Windows
[16:44] <revmoo> allsystemsarego: tried that
[16:44] <revmoo> allsystemsarego: that only affects double-click action
[16:44] <Zzeiss> revmoo:  You must have button 3, 4, or 5 set to roll-uip.  Check system>prefs>windows for it.
[16:44] <revmoo> there aren't any options related to that
[16:45] <revmoo> only double click on titlebar
[16:45] <revmoo> which I've already set
[16:45] <ghumman> I am begner
[16:45] <revmoo> however, accidentally rolling the wheel still causes windows to roll up
[16:45] <rpfaff> derdon: its not like a lag, its like enabling visual effects on a computer w/ no 3d card. almost unresponsive
[16:45] <ghumman> which tool will help to creat m3u
[16:46] <allsystemsarego> ghumman, audacious
[16:46] <LasBuntu> I run 2 windows computers and my ubuntu machine on a KVM, the ubuntu screen is 1/4 inch offset, but when I move the monitor settings around it changes the windows machines and vice-versa. Is there any way to move the ubuntu display? (lcd panel btw) thanks
[16:46] <derdon> ghumman: moc
[16:47] <kubuc> rpfaff, it could be many things, maybe randr is messing up, but as a start look if /var/log/Xorg.0.log reveals anything ...
[16:47] <revmoo> quick question, how do I completely disable window shade? There is an ubuntu bug where if my scroll wheel moves while going over a titlebar it rolls up the whole window. How do I disable this behavior?
[16:47] <rockstarmike> LasBuntu: that's weird, I don't have that problem with KVM...my problem with kvm is when i switch back my mouse freaks out for like 5 seconds
[16:47] <d3co> a need install ltsp server! do you know ?? 3
[16:47] <ghumman> my firefox hang what command to shutdown  i  may use
[16:48] <revmoo> killall -9 firefox
[16:48] <LasBuntu> i've tried different video cards and ubuntu is always offset from the 2 windows boxes no matter how I put the cards in
[16:48] <ghumman> thnakyou
[16:48] <rockstarmike> hrm, i just auto adjust when i boot the ubuntu box...and they both stay perfect
[16:49] <sergiumihai> hi, it is possible to change screen resolution in ubuntu 8.10 by editing xorg.conf ?
[16:49] <semo> are there any known bugs in the w-lan tool from ubuntu?
[16:49] <LasBuntu> Rockstarmike: when "on boot" exactly?
[16:49] <rockstarmike> when I hit the login screen
[16:49] <LasBuntu> before x?
[16:49] <rockstarmike> after x
[16:49] <d3co> yes lstpserver!!
[16:49] <LasBuntu> hrrm
[16:49]  * LasBuntu tests that
[16:50] <d3co> say ltsp server
[16:50] <sergiumihai> how to detect the monitor in ubuntu
[16:51] <sindar> !hint 14
[16:51] <sergiumihai> how to change screen resolution.
[16:51] <Captcha> Hey
[16:51] <nesakysiu> i get an error trying to install beep media player E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player
[16:51] <LasBuntu> nope, still 1/4 offset in windows then
[16:51] <nesakysiu> whats wrong?
[16:52] <bedo2991> rieccomi
[16:52] <kubuc> sergiumihai, did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (as root user)?
[16:52] <sergiumihai> ubuntu is not still for human being, it's almost but not yet
[16:52] <rockstarmike> what type of KVM switch is it?
[16:52] <LjL> nesakysiu: the fact that the package for Beep is called "bmpx", not "beep-media-player"
[16:52] <sergiumihai> kubuc, nope.
[16:52] <LasBuntu> rockstarmike: kinda old and slightly cheap, but has no problems with any other os/box
[16:53] <LasBuntu> rockstarmike: i'm forced to think it's Ubuntu, since I can swap the cards directly and have the same issue
[16:53] <quizme> hi, configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH  <--- what's should i do ?
[16:53] <quizme> sorry
[16:53] <sergiumihai> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg this did not change the resolution ..
[16:53] <LjL> !build-essential > quizme    (quizme, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:53] <quizme> i'm a newbie
[16:53] <LjL> quizme: if you're a newbie, why are you compiling things manually?
[16:54] <lesshaste> how do I get kghostview in intrepid? The upgrade seems to have killed it
[16:54] <quizme> LjL: cuz i'm a hardcore newbie
[16:54] <rockstarmike> sounds like it
[16:54] <kubuc> quizme, installed build-essential ?
[16:54] <derdon> lesshaste: wait till 9.04 :)
[16:54] <lesshaste> derdon, I need it for kile
[16:54] <LjL> quizme: don't come here to complain if you compile something and then install it in your root hierarchy and that results in various sorts of system breakage.
[16:54] <lesshaste> is it still available?
[16:55] <LjL> lesshaste: i'm afraid that, possibly due to being a kde 3 program, it's just not available
[16:55] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[16:55] <sergiumihai> kubuc,the gutsy was perfect for me, there were displayconfig-gtk with that was possible to change resolution.
[16:55] <sergiumihai> ..
[16:55] <d3co> ltsp x 4
[16:55] <lesshaste> LjL, ?! that's terrible
[16:55] <sergiumihai> and hardy too
[16:55] <tomdu29> français ????????
[16:55] <LjL> lesshaste: if you can't find it on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ (and i can't), it means it's not there
[16:55] <kubuc> sergiumihai, if you not choose autodetect screen, you get option to choose your resolution
[16:55] <LjL> !fr | tomdu29
[16:56] <sergiumihai> in 8.10 i can't find any tool with that it's possible to change the resoltuion..
[16:56] <lesshaste> LjL, they must be meant to replace it with something.. kile needs it
[16:56] <d3co> ok then ltsp with ubuntu? someone?
[16:56] <LjL> lesshaste: kile doesn't *claim* to need it, though, since it's not a dependency
[16:56] <rafting> wifi interface? i dont know. I have a realtek card. i have a router and a modem.
[16:56] <sergiumihai> maybe i will go with another distro
[16:57] <lesshaste> LjL, really?  hmm.. let me see if I can reconfigure kile to use something else
[16:57] <LjL> lesshaste: what does it need it for?
[16:57] <sergiumihai> ubuntu it's hard
[16:57] <sergiumihai> is*
[16:57] <LjL> lesshaste: you most likely can, it's just a PS file viewer
[16:57] <LjL> lesshaste: if all else fails, you could always make a symlink from another PS viewer to /usr/bin/kghostview
[16:58] <quizme> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:58] <quizme> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[16:58] <quizme> is only available from another source
[16:58] <quizme> what does that mean ?
[16:59] <LjL> quizme: that your /etc/apt/sources.list file is messed up
[16:59] <LjL> quizme: pastebin it please
[16:59] <d3co> sources.list man!!
[16:59] <FFForever> Was the problem with the 8.10 mcp67 systems freezing at boot fixed? (i am still on 8.04)
[17:00] <kubuc> quizme, build-essential is there alright, you are up 2 date, did fetch package list and updated?
[17:00] <Izinucs> does imap store messages locally like pop3 does? just wondering the best way to setup gmail on evolution
[17:00] <kubuc> quizme, talking about intrepid here
[17:00] <quizme> http://pastie.org/335876
[17:00] <quizme> 8.04
[17:00] <quizme> http://pastie.org/335876  <--- that's my sources.list
[17:00] <LjL> Izinucs, storning stuff locally or not is not something that depends on the protocol, but on what the client decides to do
[17:00] <lesshaste> LjL, so what's a good alternative viewer?
[17:01] <LjL> Izinucs: IMAP is certainly more suited to remote-only storage than POP3, though
[17:01] <joaopinto> Izinucs, no, usually you use online imap, messages are kept on the server
[17:01] <rockstarmike> :(
[17:01] <ckebabo> how can i config apache2 for python's cgi? my config is http://rafb.net/p/5r20De33.html but, it's not work for me.
[17:01] <Izinucs> LjL: joaopinto thanks!
[17:01] <LjL> quizme: that looks right, try doing "sudo apt-get update" and then install build-essential again
[17:01] <lesshaste> LjL, ggv is missing too!
[17:01] <kubuc> quizme, http://pastie.org/335877
[17:02] <LjL> lesshaste, "okular" is the standard KDE 4 PS viewer
[17:02] <ghumman> best tool for watch online tv in ubuntu?
[17:02] <quizme> ljl: ok
[17:02] <lesshaste> LjL, ok.. who knew :)
[17:02] <quizme> ljl: massive shit is happening
[17:02] <d3co> ltsp x 45
[17:02] <LjL> lesshaste: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/kile will show you three recommends (the green ones), those are probably packages that will work as replacements for kghostview
[17:02] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[17:02] <LjL> quizme, language please
[17:03] <lesshaste> LjL, thanks!
[17:03] <quizme> ljl: i love you
[17:03] <quizme> ljl: it's working
[17:03] <quizme> apt-get is kind of on the awesome side
[17:04] <quizme> ljl: the benevolent dictator
[17:05] <kubuc> A question for a smart guy, if they live in here: Looking at my desktop it seams to run in less colors then i want. I have ATI HD2400 XT, apearently it runs on xserver-xorg-radeon, why isnt the xserver-xorg-radeonhd installed per default? And how to alter color depth?
[17:05] <amikrop> Hello. I downloaded some Greek subtitles, but when I use them with VLC or view them with Gedit, they seem gibberish. Is it an encoding issue?
[17:05] <amikrop> How could I fix it?
[17:05] <amikrop> !encoding
[17:05] <amikrop> !subtitles
[17:05] <LjL> !fishing
[17:05] <lesshaste> LjL, thanks :)
[17:05] <amikrop> !subs
[17:05] <amikrop> LjL: ok, sorry
[17:07] <quizme> ljl: thanks, it's compiling
[17:07] <Maveas> Hmm, I can't repatition my USB drive. At this moment it's partitioned in FAT32 and I want to make it ext3. I'm using gparted and got dosfstools
[17:07] <roger_> copying ubuntu to another drive=epic fail
[17:08] <Fitzz> if i have done some change to liveCD (on usb stick), like installed new softwares, will those changes be still on if i install ubuntu to hard disk?
[17:08] <kubuc> roger_, use dd, man dd howto
[17:08] <roger_> yeah i was just reading about that dd command and just was gonna ask about it
[17:09] <roger_> partimage won't image it cuz it's mounted
[17:09] <kubuc> roger_, and you cant save a mounted partition if / is being used
[17:10] <LjL> amikrop: it's probably an encoding issue, i.e. the subtitles are encoded using the greek extension of ASCII instead of using UTF-8. you might try converting them with for example "recode", or you could change the variables listed in "locale" in a terminal - and then start VLC in that terminal - to the Greek encoding (i don't know what it's called, however)
[17:10] <LjL> amikrop: you might try asking nicely in #ubuntu-gr, as well
[17:10] <roger_> partimage=epic fail
[17:10] <roger_> i only have partitions for ubunut / and swap
[17:10] <amikrop> LjL: Opening with Gedit, Save As and choose an encoding is enough to recode?
[17:10] <roger_> so / is always mounted
[17:10] <rockstarmike> so no one has ever seen this problem?
[17:11] <LjL> amikrop: only if you can get gedit to show it in proper greek in the first place
[17:11] <kubuc> roger_, for that you need to boot and run your tool from another partition, like a cd or sub stick or something
[17:11] <LjL> amikrop: (which might involve choosing an encoding when you *open* it)
[17:11] <roger_> only thing i got is the ubuntu 8.10 cd
[17:11] <amikrop> LjL: I couldn't, though I saved it as two Greek encodings
[17:12] <roger_> can i do anything with it other than install
[17:12] <kubuc> roger_, why not use kubuntu live cd or something?
[17:12] <andreus> Hello. I have a question. I have laptop(debian lenny) with wireless internet connection and a desktop(ubuntu 8.10) without. Is it possible to patch desktop to connect to internet through a crossover cable between laptop and desktop? thank you in advance.
[17:12] <roger_> i have kubuntu live cd, but i don't like kubuntu
[17:12] <LjL> amikrop: Open, Character Encoding / Add or Remove, Greek ISO-8859-7, Add
[17:12] <kubuc> roger_, any live cd will do
[17:13] <roger_> what i do with live cd
[17:13] <amikrop> LjL: I did so, but no success
[17:13] <kubuc> roger_, read the manpages ... oh boy
[17:13] <roger_> more reading, sheesh
[17:13] <kubuc> roger_, the fault is not the tool but the user ...;)
[17:14] <roger_> nah the os is, i'm never wrong :)
[17:14] <recon61> roger_: put the cd in and boot to "live cd (without changing you hard drive)" option
[17:14] <error404notfound> I have a domain name, and a live IP, how can I point that domain name to my live ip? Its only one ip, and the domain registrar needs a primary and a secondary dns for the domain, so even if I used an aurthoritative dns, it won't help...
[17:14] <ikonia> error404notfound you need someone to host your dns
[17:14] <andreus> anyone?
[17:14] <recon61> roger_: then you can work without mounting "/" from your hdd
[17:14] <ikonia> andreus: anyone what
[17:15] <error404notfound> ikonia: and that costs? so I will have to pay for the dns separately?
[17:15] <andreus> Hello. I have a question. I have laptop(debian lenny) with wireless internet connection and a desktop(ubuntu 8.10) without. Is it possible to patch desktop to connect to internet through a crossover cable between laptop and desktop? thank you in advance.
[17:15] <ikonia> error404notfound look at hosting provifders
[17:15] <adaykin> has anyone tried to install php6 on ubuntu?
[17:15] <ikonia> andreus yes thats possible
[17:15] <roger_> i boot up with this live cd then how i copy this ubuntu partition to the other one
[17:15] <ikonia> andreus: nope it's not main stream stable
[17:15] <FFForever> how can i keep my hardy kernel after upgrading?
[17:15] <kubuc> andreus, yes
[17:15] <roger_> is there something on it i can use
[17:15] <ikonia> roger_: make the parttiions and copy the data, or use dd to copy the data at a block level
[17:16] <ikonia> roger_: just a flat file copy will work
[17:16] <recon61> roger_: which partition to which??
[17:16] <ikonia> FFForever: you don't really
[17:16] <kubuc> andreus, as long as the box youy connect to does routing and has a steady internet connection, why not?
[17:16] <FFForever> ikonia, i have to =D
[17:16] <ikonia> FFForever then you shouldn't upgrade
[17:16] <ikonia> FFForever: the kernel versions are matched for ubuntu
[17:16] <sdlwof> man, i must not be understanding egrep. egrep -o '[http]' prints out only http, not the whole url....
[17:16] <error404notfound> ikonia: but they charge for hosting, I want to host it at my home, and free if possible.. :(
[17:17] <ikonia> error404notfound nope
[17:17] <FFForever> ikonia, due to bug #272247 i have to keep my hardy kernel XD, also i want the newer software (vlc) from ibex XD
[17:17] <ikonia> error404notfound: you need multiple dns servers
[17:17] <L0neWolf> Anybody have an idea why a flash orientated site works fine in CentOS but not Ubuntu?  It's the same flash version in both distros
[17:17] <ikonia> FFForever you can't do both safley
[17:17] <FFForever> =(
[17:17] <ikonia> FFForever: the kernels are matched to the versions
[17:17] <kubuc> andreus, for Gigabit adapters dont use X-over but straight cables
[17:17] <jrib> sdlwof: -o only prints what your pattern matches...
[17:17] <FFForever> ikonia, can i search ppa's for programs?
[17:17] <genii> FFForever: Then add the ibex deb-src lines and compile the newer vlc
[17:17] <ikonia> FFForever: if you want
[17:17] <sdlwof> jrgp, wouldn't the [] match the whole url?
[17:17] <sdlwof> jrib, i suppose not
[17:18] <jrib> sdlwof: no, what do you think [] does?
[17:18] <FFForever> ikonia, i cant compile vlc from source i get stuck at a dependency that just won't compile =(
[17:18] <sdlwof> it works for IP addresses '[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+'
[17:18] <roger_> ok this ubuntu is on sdc1 and i need to copy it to sda2
[17:18] <andreus> kubuc, so what has to be done?
[17:18] <ikonia> FFForever: don't recompile it then
[17:18] <jrib> sdlwof: [0-9] matches any digit 0 through 9
[17:18] <error404notfound> ikonia: any links? I am trying it on google but coming up empty handed with the string "Free DNS service"
[17:18] <kiloblaster> hello everyone!!
[17:19] <ikonia> error404notfound no, and I wouldn't trust free dns services
[17:19] <kiloblaster> My Ubuntu cannot detect any wireless... can someone please help me out ??
[17:19] <error404notfound> ikonia: and why would be that?
[17:19] <kubuc> andreus, in short: setup static ipś on booth boxes that have a dif subnet, enable routing on th ebox connected to the internet, thats basically it apart from firewalling
[17:19] <jrib> sdlwof: you want something like: 'http://[^"]*' (untested) probably.  Where " is the character that ends the url
[17:19] <ikonia> error404notfound: check the terms and conditions of your home ISP too, a lot will disconnect you if you try to host websites on your home connection
[17:19] <L0neWolf> ikonia, you wouldn't trust opendns ?
[17:19] <ikonia> L0neWolf: nope
[17:20] <L0neWolf> ikonia, how come?
[17:20] <jrib> sdlwof: anyway, I have to go now
[17:20] <ikonia> L0neWolf: don't trust free dns services
[17:20] <error404notfound> L0neWolf: I have opendns, do they offer such a thing?
[17:20] <L0neWolf> ikonia, I got that part but why?
[17:20] <ikonia> L0neWolf: bit offtopic in here
[17:20] <L0neWolf> true
[17:20] <ikonia> L0neWolf: I've see how they are run
[17:20] <adaykin> hey I'm having problems with rhythmbox working out of the box, it crashes every time I try and play a file
[17:20] <L0neWolf> error404notfound, opendns provide a few services, best to look on their website for what you want
[17:21] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[17:21] <genii> error404notfound: http://www.dnsserverlist.org/  has a list of dns IP
[17:21] <kiloblaster> ANYONE please help me with the wireless in Ubuntu??
[17:21] <error404notfound> L0neWolf: hmm, lemme check, I am already using them as forwarders and liking so far...
[17:21] <L0neWolf> Anybody have an idea why a flash orientated site works fine in CentOS but not Ubuntu?  It's the same flash version in both distros
[17:21] <matic_> adaykin, just use mplayer it plays quite a number of formats
[17:21] <error404notfound> genii: thanks ..
[17:21] <FFForever> ikonia, how can i search the ppa for only 8.04?
[17:22] <pidgin> can anyone tell how to change screen resolution in ubuntu 8.10
[17:22] <pidgin> i have tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and screen resolution tool from preferancies
[17:22] <DasEi> L0neWolf:32 or 64 bit ubuntu, hardy or ibex ?
[17:22] <pidgin> is there any another way to change screen resolution ?
[17:22] <genii> error404notfound:   If your dns is currently no-go their direct IP is:  <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:22] <kubuc> L0neWolf, use the tool dig to check your setups
[17:22] <boozary> hi all
[17:22] <L0neWolf> DasEi, 32 bit ibex
[17:22] <matic_> L0neWolf, is the site hosted in any of the two distros?
[17:22] <roger_> the guy that mentioned dd command, is this right dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=/dev/sda2
[17:22] <error404notfound> genii: what was that no-go?
[17:22] <adaykin> matic: for music files?
[17:22] <boozary> how to i can change my hostname in terminal window ?
[17:22] <L0neWolf> matic_, no it's a separate site altogether
[17:22] <L0neWolf> kubuc, I'm not sure what you mean
[17:23] <matic_> adaykin, yeah
[17:23] <kubuc> roger_, yes, dd if=source of=destination
[17:23] <sdlwof> jrib, tested. thanks
[17:23] <recon61> pidgin: I normaly use System->Preferances->Screen Resolution
[17:23] <roger_> ok i try that
[17:23] <genii> error404notfound: EG: If you try to go to: http://www.dnsserverlist.org/    but it can't resolve the name to an IP. Then use the IP I provided
[17:23] <d3co> !ltsp
[17:23] <roger_> fix coffee catch a nap while stuff copies
[17:23] <Jacobbs> !lisp
[17:23] <kubuc> L0neWolf, install the tool called dig and use it to check all dns-ing
[17:23] <matic_> L0neWolf, am asking whether the site is hosted in any of the two?
[17:23] <Jacobbs> aww
[17:23] <AngryElf> uhm, so I want to record whatever my browser is pumping out to mp3 -- is there an app that can do that?
[17:23] <DasEi> L0neWolf:strange, works good out the box mostly;  (browser closed)   sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree mozplugger ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:24] <roger_> after this is done all i do is edit the fstab on other partition and add in grub entry correct
[17:24] <d3co> !edubuntuhandbook
[17:24] <L0neWolf> matic_, I said no up there  ^^^ it's a separate site to both of them
[17:24] <DasEi> !flash > L0neWolf
[17:24] <boozary> how to i can change my hostname in terminal window ? please help me
[17:24] <kubuc> L0neWolf, and dyndns.org works well and its free for non-commercial
[17:25] <ikonia> boozary: change /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[17:25] <adaykin> hey has anyone tried to install php6? I'm having problems with the sudo make install command
[17:25] <ikonia> adaykin ask in ##php
[17:25] <L0neWolf> kubuc, ahh I think you're mistaking me  :)  I was answering someone else about dns services, sorry
[17:25] <genii> boozary: Also:  sudo hostname <newhostname>
[17:25] <boozary> ok thanks ikonia
[17:25] <kiloblaster> PLEASE GUYS! i need some help with the wireless in Ubuntu... right now i am forced to use Vizta :(:(
[17:25] <boozary> thanks thanks :-)
[17:25] <kubuc> L0neWolf, oh ok
[17:25] <L0neWolf> DasEi, I'll give it a try.  thing is all other flash sites work but this one and it really confuses me when it works in CentOS but not Ubuntu
[17:26] <DasEi> L0neWolf:url ?
[17:27] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: What wireless card do you have, what version of ubuntu are you using, and what seems to be the problem?
[17:27] <DasEi> L0neWolf:could you give the url of not working flash-site ?
[17:27] <L0neWolf> DasEi, it's www.stickam.com chat to a few friends on there but only a few parts of it, let me find a more specific link on the site
[17:28] <horstle> hi
[17:28] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: i have ubuntu 8.10 with and Atheros... it cannot detect any wireless network
[17:28] <recon61> kiloblaster: you could start by working through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiTroubleshooting and the asking if you have a spicific problems, we can wave a magic wand to fix your network without some info
[17:28] <dn5a-b> hi everybody. I just installed newest ubuntu desktop and something is wrong with it. It halts at the desktop start - orange screen shows and thats about it
[17:28] <dn5a-b> any ideas how it can be fxed?
[17:28] <kubuc> recon, can you ? ;)
[17:28] <ikonia> dn5a-b got an ati card ?
[17:29] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: Hold on, please.
[17:29] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: Thanks in advance :D
[17:29] <dn5a-b> ikonia: whats ati card? sry
[17:29] <dn5a-b> ah no
[17:29] <dn5a-b> :P
[17:29] <DasEi> L0neWolf:tari-cam brodcasts well, gonna reboot to 32, brb
[17:29] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[17:29] <ikonia> dn5a-b: just checking a common cause
[17:29] <ikonia> dn5a-b: as in ati video card
[17:30] <ikonia> dn5a-b: try booting into safe mode from the grub menu
[17:30] <kai> Heya there, Everytime i try to do dd if=./boot1h of=/dev/rdisk0 bs-=512 count =1 i get an error saying" resource busy" any way to fix this? (Trying to reinstall mac bootloader)
[17:30] <ikonia> dn5a-b: see what that gets you
[17:30] <recon61> kiloblaster : also look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[17:30] <ikonia> kai: make sure the disk is not in use
[17:30] <kubuc> kai, are they mounted?
[17:30] <ikonia> kai: you can't write to a disk thats in use
[17:30] <kai> ikonia, i am trying to install from disc
[17:30] <dn5a-b> ikonia: aint that gonna get me to the console?
[17:30] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: Could you provide me the model number of the atheros card? It'll help me search the forums.
[17:30] <ikonia> dn5a-b: yup
[17:30] <kai> and i dont know how to unmount, :(
[17:30] <afallenhope|work> dn5a-b, yes and then you can typelspci | grep -i vga
[17:31] <kai> i was trying unmount -f /dev/diskXsY and it says unmount not a command
[17:31] <afallenhope|work> kai, umount MOUNTPOINT
[17:31] <ikonia> kai: mount -u
[17:31] <ikonia> umount sorry
[17:31] <ikonia> not unount
[17:31] <afallenhope|work> no worries ikonia I got your back :-p
[17:31] <dn5a-b> afallenhope|work: im on livecd right now, ill reboot and then be bac
[17:31] <kai> <3 I love you if this works
[17:32] <kai> "unknown special file or file system /dev/diskXsY :(
[17:32] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: ar5007eg
[17:32] <ikonia> kai: thats not a mount point
[17:32] <CURRICULUM> ANYONE there?
[17:32] <ikonia> kai: I suggest you do it from a livecd
[17:32] <ikonia> CURRICULUM: yes
[17:32] <kai> I am doing this from a live CD, ikonia
[17:32] <ikonia> CURRICULUM: you get a better response if you don't use capslock
[17:32] <Buyydee> Hey, I have a sound problem: whenever a program that uses sound (be it a game, mediaplayer, flash-firefox-plugin...) is running, the sound is locked for all other programs, often stopping them. I use Hardy 64-bit.
[17:32] <ikonia> kai: what is /dev/rdisk ?
[17:32] <kubuc> kai, mount, and look how the mountpoints are called
[17:32] <ikonia> kai: I've not seen that device before
[17:33] <kai> kubuc, i am not fimilar with mac at all..can you explain that? and ikonia, I am following the guide previously posted
[17:33] <kai> http://forum.insanelymac.com/lofiversion/index.php/%22http:/t97198.html
[17:33] <FFForever> is there anyway to keep my touchpad/mouse from crashing?, every now and then (when using the slide/scroll bar on the right) then i loose scroll functions till i reboot =(
[17:33] <ikonia> kai: what guide
[17:33] <CURRICULUM> is someone into domestic violence
[17:33] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: Thanks! :-) Just a moment.
[17:33] <ikonia> CURRICULUM: please don't talk about that
[17:33] <kai> visit link from insanelymac.com up in my last post
[17:33] <ikonia> CURRICULUM: this is ubuntu support ONLY
[17:33] <L0neWolf> DasEi, back yet?
[17:34] <L0neWolf> lol  timed that well
[17:34] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: thanks to you ;) lol sorry if i didnt post it before
[17:34] <Buyydee> Hey, I have a sound problem: whenever a program that uses sound (be it a game, mediaplayer, flash-firefox-plugin...) is running, the sound is locked for all other programs, often stopping them. I use Hardy 64-bit.
[17:34] <L0neWolf> DasE1, same as DasEi ?
[17:34] <kai> Any thoughts, Kubuc ; Ikonia ?
[17:34] <Grom> is http://ubuntuforums.org/ sharing vBulettin theme to other sites?
[17:34] <DasE1> L0neWolf: yep
[17:34] <ikonia> kai: which guide on that site ar eyou following
[17:35] <ikonia> Grom ask in #ubuntuforums
[17:35] <kubuc> kai, i thought you where on a ubuntu machine, not a mac
[17:35] <Grom> can I download that theme from somewhere?
[17:35] <ikonia> Grom ask in #ubuntuforums
[17:35] <kubuc> kai, but it should be simular
[17:35] <recon61> kiloblaster: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[17:35] <genii> kubuc: Ubuntu runs on mac
[17:35] <kubuc> genii, yes
[17:35] <L0neWolf> DasE1, ah ok, www.stickam.com/n3k0w0lf I went 'live' to show how it looks.  this is what it shows up to me as www.r4wr.co.uk/uploads/broken.jpg
[17:35] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: Ok, good news. :-) You  need to compile the drivers for your card and use those drivers. That should fix the problem. Here's the link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[17:36] <genii> kubuc: That was a statement and not a question :)
[17:36] <ikonia> kai: which guide on that site are you following
[17:36] <kai> http://pastebin.com/m1c1dc367
[17:36] <kubuc> genii, i run dif linux on mac also, but mac os handles alot different
[17:36] <ikonia> kai: which guide on that site are you following
[17:36] <kai> guide from here
[17:36] <kai> http://forum.insanelymac.com/lofiversion/index.php/%22http:/t97198.html
[17:36] <kiloblaster> THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH... now i shutdown Vista and try with ubuntu...thanks again :)
[17:36] <kiloblaster> bye people!!!
[17:37] <kiloblaster> FROM ITALY::::    UBUNTU RULEZ ::::::::
[17:37] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: np, here's another link, btw.
[17:37] <kubuc> genii, > tiger its more simular to linux, that is
[17:37] <recon61> the support from http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/
[17:37] <ikonia> kai the instructions you are typing are for if you are running on mac OS
[17:37] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 <- There's a section on your card there as well.
[17:38] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: Shot it :D
[17:38] <loller> can somebody tell me how to enable the sound of vmware machine
[17:38] <genii> kubuc: Yes.
[17:38] <nutzer> come you from germany kiloblaster
[17:38] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: if you ever pass by southern Italy, i owe you a beer ;)
[17:38] <kai> ikonia, I am trying to boot to mac, grub is installed and i need it replaced because Ubuntu is no longer on my computer
[17:38] <Aperculum> is there some app to create quick temporary ftp server?
[17:38] <ikonia> kai I understand but I've just told you the instructions you are following are for if you are running from  mac
[17:38] <edju> I've googled till I've gone nuts.  Kaffeine keeps reporting the dvd is encrypted, even though libdvdcss (and libdvdread) is installed.  Any pointers, solutions?
[17:39] <kai> Ikonia, Okay, so how do i do this from a live CD?
[17:39] <ikonia> kai do you have the boot loader you want to use ?
[17:39] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: np. :-) I've got a friend in Torino btw. Beautiful country, Italy. Best of luck with your wireless, mate.
[17:39] <kai> Ikonia, I was hoping to just insstall the standard mac bootloader
[17:39] <kubuc> Aperculum, vsftpd ?
[17:39] <ikonia> kai then do that then
[17:39] <L0neWolf> DasE1, as I say it's just this one thing and it bugs me so much since it works in Windows but also CentOS with the same flash plugin.
[17:39] <ikonia> kai: boot form your mac CD and use the repair options
[17:40] <kai> Ikonia I'm trying to :P that's why I am here, It's not working well... Where are the repair options? :S
[17:40] <Aperculum> kubuc, quick temporary, like, run it, share few files, and close it
[17:40] <Aperculum> no need to be on default ftp port either
[17:40] <ikonia> kai if you boot from your mac CD it starts the install phase and there should be a repair menu, people in ##apple or ##mac should know better than me
[17:40] <kubuc> Aperculum, just aptitude install it, where you are done aptitude purge it
[17:40] <kai> Okay, thanks again!
[17:41]  * myselfpt is away (bounce)
[17:41] <ra21vi> i have installed a new development server on Ubuntu server edition, and created some users, I want some chatting sort of program, so users can chat in a common room or privately .... is there some package for it,
[17:41] <ikonia> !away > myselfpt
[17:41] <ian__> anyone else having partial upgrades issues...failing on openoffice
[17:41] <ikonia> ra21vi talkd or setup a small irc server
[17:41] <ra21vi> when nothing seems feasible, i will have to install IRC server on it, so users can login and chat
[17:41] <DasE1> L0neWolf: did you try to d/l  adobe flashplyer-plugin ? they got a deb for hardy..
[17:41] <myselfpt> ikonia ?!?!?!
[17:41] <kubuc> ra21vi, you mean irc?
[17:42] <myselfpt> ubottu ?!
[17:42] <ikonia> myselfpt: read the message from ubottu
[17:42] <L0neWolf> DasE1, I tried using the hardy repo it's the same version  :/
[17:42] <myselfpt> ikonia ive got none
[17:42] <ra21vi> ikonia: well i should now be reading docs after you pointed talkd, but does talkd allow common room like we are here chatting..
[17:42] <ikonia> myselfpt: it's a private message
[17:42] <ikonia> !away >myselfpt
[17:42] <ra21vi> kubuc: i am searching for now, and maybe I will install irc
[17:42] <myselfpt> ikonia again, ive got none
[17:43] <ckebabo> how can i config apache2 for python's cgi? my config is http://rafb.net/p/5r20De33.html but, it's not work for me.
[17:43] <ikonia> !away | myselfpt
[17:43] <myselfpt> ok ok
[17:43] <ikonia> ra21vi talk is one on one yes
[17:43] <myselfpt> got it
[17:43] <myselfpt> sorry
[17:43] <myselfpt> gonna fix it
[17:43] <FloodBot1> myselfpt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <ikonia> thanks
[17:43] <kubuc> ra21vi, a bit of work to setup, but i use exactly this for that: http://www.phpbots.org/
[17:44] <ian__> anyone else having partial upgrades issues...failing on openoffice
[17:44] <ra21vi> kubuc: ok
[17:44] <L0neWolf> DasE1, I just worked out what you mean, I'll grab the .deb from Adobe's site and see if it makes a difference
[17:44] <kubuc> ra21vi, bonus: nothing is installed on the clients
[17:44] <kubuc> ra21vi, works through there webbrowser
[17:45] <evans2088> has anyone been having trouble with the latest flash player other than me?
[17:45] <quizme> apt-get install emacs?
[17:45] <quizme> is that how to install emacs ?
[17:46] <kubuc> quizme, use aptitude now a days
[17:46] <kai> ikonia, kubuc, I was booted from ##mac
[17:46] <tiyowan> evans2088: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:46] <quizme> kubuc: aptitude install emacs ?
[17:46] <roger_> i repartioned a drive, in terminal i typed blkid and it still shows old id's, how i make it to current
[17:46] <derdon> quizme: no, definetely not! with this command you install vim!
[17:46] <evans2088> 8.10
[17:46] <ikonia> kai: why ?
[17:47] <kai> I told them i was installing mac on PC
[17:47] <kubuc> quizme, basically yes, depends on what frills you all want: aptitude search emacs ...
[17:47] <quizme> derdon: is vim bad ?
[17:47] <ikonia> kai: ahhh and you'll be removed from here too if you talk about that
[17:47] <kai> =[
[17:47] <ikonia> kai: there is illegal, I thought you where runningo n  mac
[17:47] <derdon> quizme: yes, and emacs too! only cat is the right editor
[17:47] <kai> =[ darnit, i didn't knoww...sory
[17:47] <tiyowan> evans2088: Same here. No problems, though. Which site are you trying to use?
[17:48] <powertool08> ikonia: hackintoshes are illegal?!?!
[17:48] <quizme> derdon: ok, i consider you to be a space alien now
[17:48] <kubuc> emy favorite nano
[17:48] <citronbleu-v_> hello, i have firefox which crash often
[17:48] <ikonia> powertool08: yes
[17:48] <quizme> derdon: what is cat ?
[17:48] <evans2088> tiyowan: i've been having trouble with any streaming video that runs on flash, youtube in particular
[17:48] <derdon> quizme: the best editor
[17:48] <citronbleu-v_> it's normal ?
[17:48] <tiyowan> ikonia: He's trying to install the mac OS on PC?
[17:48] <powertool08> ikonia: hmm, any reason other than not buying mac's hardware in addition to software?
[17:49] <ikonia> tiyowan: yes
[17:49] <quizme> aptitude is cool.  it turned my terminal into a gui !
[17:49] <ikonia> powertool08: the license only allows it on apple hardware
[17:49] <powertool08> ikonia: ahh, guess that would do it
[17:49] <quizme> derdon: apt-get install cat ?
[17:49] <trancefat> is emacs very difficult to use?
[17:49] <balau> evans2088, what kind of trouble? the browser hangs when you close the page?
[17:49] <quizme> trancefat: i like emacs
[17:49] <tiyowan> evans2088: Hold on, I'm checking.
[17:49] <kubuc> quizme, cat is already installed (bas-packages)
[17:49] <trancefat> quizme: i ve been using eclipse all along
[17:50] <kubuc> quizme, man cat
[17:50] <trancefat> quizme: just wondering hows it to work on emcs
[17:50] <quizme> trancefat: eclipse is advanced alien technology
[17:50] <quizme> trancefat: it's going to feel like you're in the stone age compared to eclipse.
[17:50] <balau> citronbleu-v_, does it crash at particular times?
[17:50]  * kubuc mumbles eclipse has nice php plugins too
[17:50] <evans2088> balau:no, the browser freezes b4 the video loads
[17:50] <webas> hi..i cant find a notebook if its supported by ubuntu/kubuntu.. ?
[17:51] <trancefat> quizme: is emacs good for intermediate as3/php programmer
[17:51] <balau> citronbleu-v_, for example, always with the same sites?
[17:51] <quizme> kubuc: how do i run cat as an editor ?
[17:51] <citronbleu-v_> no
[17:51] <hc> So i have my laptop and normal pc, identically configured. However,, there is a problem with the laptop. Whenever i watch a video, there'll be a few seconds of pauze every few minutes, where the audio plays, but the video freezes along with the desktop.
[17:51] <citronbleu-v_> i have a error message
[17:51] <kubuc> quizme, i did not state you can ....
[17:51] <quizme> trancefat: for as3 you don't want to use the adobe IDEs ?
[17:51] <tiyowan> evans2088: Checked out youtube. Everything works fine, here.
[17:51] <quizme> kubuc: holy hell, you are a space alien.
[17:52] <trancefat> quizme: obviously not
[17:52] <evans2088> tiyowan: what version of flash do you have?
[17:52] <kubuc> quizme, no, i explained that it was already installed
[17:52] <quizme> trancefat: you're going to compile the SDK ?
[17:52] <trancefat> quizme: i ve been using flash develop which is really cool
[17:52] <citronbleu-v_> which say : firefox is already run
[17:52] <kubuc> quizme, someone else told that
[17:52] <trancefat> quizme: of course thts on win
[17:52] <hc> !enter | citronbleu-v_
[17:52] <quizme> trancefat: oh yeah...
[17:52] <trancefat> quizme: is emacs only for advanced users?
[17:53] <tiyowan> evans2088: Flash v10.
[17:53] <quizme> trancefat: emacs is for old people like Donald Knuth
[17:53] <powertool08> webas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/
[17:53] <quizme> trancefat: it's easy to use when u get used to it
[17:53] <recon61> hc: suggest you check that you have the video card hardware drivers installed on the laptop, and install the gstream-10-ugly codex , try turn compiz off if on.
[17:53] <tiyowan> evans2088: Using it on firefox v3.0
[17:53] <trancefat> quizme: what do u use it for
[17:53] <Shrini> My usb is not mounting automatically. why
[17:53] <quizme> trancefat: it will make your left pinky hurt.
[17:53] <kubuc> trancefat, you maybe want to delve into mc and mcedit too, i use that for quick and dirty projects, or the php plugin for eclipse if you need more
[17:53] <hc> recon61, let me check on that package. Compiz makes no difference.
[17:53] <powertool08> webas: also, if everything works when you run a live cd its supported and you only need to look into things which don't autoconfigure
[17:53] <quizme> trancefat: i use it for editing files on the server side.  are you going to be using a gui ?
[17:54] <dimebar> trancefat: if you search for emacs tutorials they'll soon give you an idea of if its for you
[17:54] <evans2088> tiyowan: yea, firefox v3.0, but i dont think i have flash v10
[17:54] <webas> powertool08 i dont have notebook yet..im just thinking which to choose from many.. so it can be supported fully
[17:54] <AlexOnRuby> hey ^^ i am on ubuntu, and i'm very happy
[17:54] <tiyowan> evans2088: Did you install flash using sudo apt-get nonfreeflash?
[17:54] <AlexOnRuby> i now realize vista really sucks !
[17:55] <hc> recon61, the drivers for my graphics card are also installed, as is that package. Note that i have it with every video application, including if i stream it of my other pc that has no probs.
[17:55] <trancefat> quizme: ok thanks
[17:55] <quizme> trancefat: i use OS X, and program in Ruby, so i use Textmate.  i just use emacs for servers side edits when i have to.  i prefer it over emacs.
[17:55] <trancefat> dimebar: ok
[17:55] <hc> recon61, and even with vlc i have it. So its not a codec problem.
[17:55] <Shrini> AlexOnRuby: yes. ubuntu rocks
[17:55] <quizme> trancefat: i mean i prefer emacs over vi
[17:55] <tiyowan> evans2088: Type about:plugins in a firefox window.   I've not yet found an OS that I installed and used it as packaged.
[17:55] <trancefat> quizme: i ve never used vi either
[17:55] <trancefat> quizme: it s scary
[17:55] <kubuc> quizme, trancefat i us enano on servers
[17:55] <AlexOnRuby> but i have a problem :) how do i install a program on ubuntu without an exe? :)
[17:56] <kubuc> s/enano/nano
[17:56] <AlexOnRuby> i got only a db2 archive
[17:56] <dimebar> trancefat: vim comes with a inbuilt tutorial called vimtutor
[17:56] <Shrini> AlexOnRuby: use synaptic package manager
[17:56] <quizme> trancefat: if you get really good at emacs, you can do serious stuff and be really productive.  but you hae to be kinda hardcore to get to that level.
[17:56] <trancefat> dimebar: ok
[17:56] <hc> Tw|sT, linux is a box with bricks. You build anything you want from it and use it then. Would you be proud to show you have  a box with bricks or would you be proud to show you build a castle from it?
[17:56] <Veinor> Is there a way to configure whether gedit's file picker shows dotfiles by default?
[17:56] <Xero> AlexOnRuby: you have a few choices, go to Applications: Add/Remove, there's a big selection there
[17:56] <Shrini> AlexOnRuby: what program you need?
[17:56] <balau> Shrini, about your usb, does it mount when you do lsusb inside a terminal?
[17:56] <quizme> trancefat: good night i'm out. good luck!
[17:56] <AlexOnRuby> last fm
[17:56] <AlexOnRuby> http://www.last.fm/download from here
[17:56] <biophile> I keep getting an error when I try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[17:56] <genii> hc: I like that metaphor
[17:56] <Tw|sT> but, most ppl judge Vista on its installation state, rather than tweaking it to work the way they want it to.  Ubuntu/Kubuntu are really no different.  I love them both, but I tweak the hell out of em before I use them
[17:57] <tiyowan> biophile: What error do you get?
[17:57] <DasE1> L0neWolf: interesting...
[17:57] <Xero> AlexOnRuby: you could also use Synaptic or go to www.getdeb.net, they supply .DEBs which are like the Ubuntu version of .exe
[17:57] <hc> genii, thank you.
[17:57] <Shrini> balau: it shouws on lsusb, but not mounting automatically
[17:57] <trancefat> dimebar: is vim installed by default on ubuntu 8.10
[17:57] <biophile> tiyowan: dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[17:57] <kubuc> biophile, what you try to do?
[17:57] <Veinor> ah, found it
[17:57] <nibbler> Tw|sT: total bs :D
[17:57] <dimebar> Veinor: right click -> filter -> show hidden
[17:57] <L0neWolf> DasE1, you see it as I do or how it should?
[17:57] <Xero> AlexOnRuby: the Last.fm player is in Add/Remove =]
[17:57] <evans2088> tiyowan: i have flash v9.0
[17:57] <trancefat> kubuc: is nano for advanced users onle=y?
[17:57] <Tw|sT> nibbler:  how so?
[17:57] <hc> Xero, .deb is not equal to a .exe, but more as an installer.
[17:57] <Veinor> but on a related note, whenever I open ~ in the file picker, it takes like 10 seconds
[17:57] <kubuc> trancefat, nano = simple
[17:57] <AlexOnRuby> xero : really ? :] thats cool
[17:57] <balau> Shrini, what I have on my ubuntu is that a flash drive does not mount automatically, but when I do lsusb it mounts by itself.
[17:57] <Veinor> to populate the list, anyway
[17:57] <gibranlp> hey guys, anyone knows hot to add the global addressbook in evolution?
[17:57] <dimebar> trancefat: yes but its a minimal install; do 'sudo aptitude install vim-gnome'
[17:57] <kubuc> trancefat, no frills
[17:58] <trancefat> kubuc: does it have code complete/highlighting for php, as3
[17:58] <tiyowan> Tw|st: Well...Vista is almost 50 mil. lines of code. *nix is 10.5. But I think this discussion is better off in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:58] <DasE1> L0neWolf: I had a few sites with probs, now went to synaptic searching for flash and choosin about 13 additional packets (swf n stuff), now the work !
[17:58] <trancefat> dimebar: ok
[17:58] <Shrini> balau: for me, t is not working
[17:58] <kubuc> trancefat, for that i use mcedit = also simple to use
[17:58] <trancefat> kubuc: is that for linux
[17:58] <kubuc> trancefat, part of mc
[17:58] <recon61> hc: cant think of anything obvious then other that to check system processes to see if anything is spiking usage on your system
[17:58] <biophile> kubuc: I tried to configure dpkg because it wasn't working during software update
[17:58] <kubuc> trancefat, part of ubuntu/kubuntu and many other
[17:59] <tiyowan> evans2088: You need to remove the flash plugin, visit another site that uses flash, it'll prompt you to install the plugin automatically. Should fix the problem.
[17:59] <Jo_> could somebody help me configure evolution for Gmail(IMAP) ?
[17:59] <trancefat> kubuc: ok... thanks for th info
[17:59] <Veinor> yeah, the gnome file picker is S-L-O-W
[17:59] <kubuc> Biolunar, just do aptitude reinstall dpkg [period]
[17:59] <hc> recon61, unfortunately, also done that. No high CPU usage, in fact it even drops then (remote terminal with top to check it). Also disabled screen saver and other options like automatic backlight dimming. No luck.
[17:59] <evans2088> tiyowan: i feel bad asking this, but i cant figure out how to remove it, i've been trying to for a little while now i can only disable it for some reason
[17:59] <kubuc> trancefat, yw
[17:59] <NicEXE> I just installed blender from add/remove. the problem is that i get version 2.48a and the latest is 2.48a . how do i get the latest version?
[18:00] <Shrini> jo_: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-set-up-gmail-in-evolution-gnomes-mail-client-and-organizer/
[18:00] <CelticLord> le peuple :)
[18:00] <dimebar> Jo_: http://weakish.int.eu.org/tutorial/configure-evolution-for-gmail.xhtml
[18:01] <jedi06> does ubuntu not support certain graphics cards?
[18:01] <balau> evans2088, apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree does not work?
[18:01] <tiyowan> evans2088: That's a good question, actually. Hmmm...did you install flash from the medibuntu repo?
[18:01] <hc> jedi06, please elaborate. Why do you think this?
[18:01] <Veinor> hmm, KDE seems to work better
[18:01] <biophile> tiyowan: dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[18:01] <Xero> NicEXE: the lastest version is available here http://www.getdeb.net/app/Blender
[18:01] <Jo_> thanks a million, i'll try!
[18:01] <tiyowan> biophile: Hang on.
[18:01] <kubuc> jedi06, it supports almost all, but does not have ahrdware accelaration for all cards
[18:02] <Shrini>  jedi06: it supports most of cards
[18:02] <jedi06> dell is telling me that with the ubuntu version of studio 15 it won't run smoothly with 5800 core 2 and faster ram and upgrade cards
[18:02] <kubuc> jedi06, HW accel is still ... a bit a mess
[18:02] <evans2088> tiyowan:actually no, to be honest im not sure where it came from, i had never had a problem before but then suddenly it was "updating" to v9.0 and now nothing works
[18:02] <jedi06> I'm online chatting with this guy now
[18:02] <recon61> hc: some sort of paging / hdd issue maybe?
[18:02] <NicEXE> Xero: installing blender from a deb file is risky
[18:02] <tiyowan> evans2088: What balau said. sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree from the terminal. Then reinstall it again. Then open up firefox, and go to a flash site. Then you'll get the you need a plugin blah to view this site.
[18:03] <jedi06> what about the processor and ram? would it make any difference if you had a 5750 core 2 or an 5800 core 2
[18:03] <hc> recon61, don't have a swap area, 3gb of rams which is used just over 10% (302meg), a 7200rpm HD in it, 1Gb network to stream ... doubt it
[18:03] <jedi06> only difference is the FSB and ram speed
[18:03] <hc> recon61, it's really annoying :(
[18:03] <tiyowan> evans2088: Do you know whether you have the medibuntu repos enabled?
[18:03] <kubuc> jedi06, if you have the bucks any fast cpu has huge beneifits on a desktop, but on a small server it doesnt really mather that much
[18:03] <Xero> NicEXE: as far as i'm aware that's how the versions in the repos work, though... if you don't want to install from a DEB blender.org has linux tarballs
[18:04] <Izinucs> jedi06: souldn't
[18:04] <Izinucs> jedi06: what graphics card?
[18:04] <jedi06> that's what he is telling me right now
[18:04] <joaopinto> NicEXE, it's risky depending on the source you have used, the same applies to compiling from the source ;)
[18:05] <allsystemsarego> how do I check what is being installed along with ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:05] <Xero> joaopinto, thanks for clearing that up
[18:05] <joaopinto> allsystemsarego, apt-cache show ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:05] <Izinucs> jedi06: there use to be quirks with 800 mHZ ram.  not sure if that's been ironed out or not.. I'm running it on my desktop 800/ddr2
[18:05] <Xero> NicEXE, getdeb.net is a very reliable source, there should be no problems downloading from them
[18:05] <tiyowan> biophile: Can you run apt-get? Or do you get errors with that as well?
[18:05] <kubuc> jedi06, if you know how to config any linux will happely run with low resources so
[18:06] <biophile> tiyowan: no
[18:06] <tiyowan> biophile: What you need to do is to run fsck (filesystem checker utility) off a livecd.
[18:06] <allsystemsarego> joaopinto, thanks
[18:07] <biophile> tiyowan: bother. thanks
[18:07] <Izinucs> kubuc: I don't think he has issues with low resources. I think he on a chat with Dell trying to order a machine with ubuntu preinstalled
[18:07] <nnull> if im trying to get tv out to work via s-video on legacy drivers does using the s-video little dangle cable converter to s-video work better then just plugging straight into s-video?
[18:07] <jedi06> well what about wireless n
[18:07] <kubuc> Izinucs, ah ic
[18:07] <tiyowan> evans2088: Any luck with your flash problem?
[18:07] <jedi06> 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450     $75 dollar upgrade
[18:07] <kubuc> Izinucs, i have ordered just a dell opitplex 755 with intel on board and 4G & E8500 it rocks with ubuntu
[18:08] <d3co> where I find ubuntu-alternatives cd ???
[18:08] <kubuc> Izinucs, skip the crappy ATI cards
[18:08] <jedi06> it has hardy installed on the dell studio 15
[18:08] <nnull> im using legacy drivers only way i could get the computer to recognise there was a tv was to unplug the monitor and let it use the tv as primary.. but the max resolution is 640x480 @ 60 hertz and wont go any higher in screen resolution
[18:08] <Drk_Guy> !alternate d3co
[18:08] <d3co> where can  I find ubuntu-alternatives cd ???
[18:08] <Drk_Guy> !alternate
[18:08] <joaopinto> d3co, www.ubuntu.com
[18:08] <kubuc> jedi06, yes, you simply can installed intrepid on it, did that myself
[18:08] <evans2088> tiyowan: the package installer just said there is a later version already installed, and its flash v9 is still there
[18:09] <jedi06> Izinucs ^^
[18:09] <d3co> where can  I find ubuntu alternative cd ??? for my ltsp server
[18:09] <dn5a-b> Hi everyone (once again), I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 and the desktop doesnt start. The orange screen shows and then nothing happens. When i try to boot it live, the black screen shows with a 'clock' cursor and it halts once again. Please help
[18:09] <Drk_Guy> X isuues
[18:09] <jedi06> kubuc but is it compatible with the  256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450  and 800mhz fsb and ram
[18:09] <Drk_Guy> !server
[18:09] <Izinucs> jedi06: see kubuc 's comment above.. I don't know much about the studio 15..
[18:10] <kubuc> jedi06, not really (yet)
[18:10] <d3co> !alternate
[18:10] <jedi06> ok kubuc what about the card?
[18:10] <kubuc> jedi06, i am just trying to get thta card running xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd is not ready for that card yet
[18:10] <jimmy__> ddc gateway
[18:10] <Drk_Guy> ATi Sucks for Linux
[18:11] <dn5a-b> anyone?
[18:11] <Izinucs> jedi06: I have a vostro 14 with a nvidia card.. it works great even though the windows install keep crashing.. the ubuntu side keeps going.
[18:11] <kubuc> jedi06, that goes for HD 2400 XT as well
[18:11] <kubuc> jedi06, stick to the intel from dell and you wont regret it
[18:11] <kubuc> jedi06, the onboard intel cards work out of the box
[18:12] <jedi06> of course I'm getting the intel. but the graphics card sucks it has the the intgrated intel
[18:12] <d3co> !minimal
[18:12] <kubuc> jedi06, and tell DELL that they sould sell ubuntu PCs in Holand too! ;)
[18:13] <Photoguy> How can I make a Logitech webcam work on Ubuntu?
[18:13] <hc> so i've got this laptop of mine, runs perfect. However, when i watch a video, it randomly stutters for a few seconds every few minutes, which is plainly annoying. I've disabled screensaver, automatic powersaving options, backlight dimming, cpu speed adjustments, codecs are fine, no hogging on CPU or memory. Please advice (sorry for the long story)
[18:13] <simplenewb> What is a good podcast downloader for linux to replace itunes? I've tried several in the past and they all were plagued with corrupt file that would have to later be re-downloaded. Any suggestions?
[18:13] <dennda> songbird?
[18:13] <Drk_Guy> !podcast
[18:13] <DasE1> hc:try to copy it to hd first
[18:13] <Xero> hc: please elaborate, do you mean flash video on sites like youtube or video you have saved to your hd?
[18:13] <jedi06> Kubuc what about the wireless N?
[18:14] <hc> Xero, .avi video's on my HD.
[18:14] <Izinucs> simplenewb: the built in Rhythmbox works fine for that adn will sync to portable devices.
[18:14] <hc> DasE1, it is on my HD.
[18:14] <DasE1> saw it, hc, using vlc ?
[18:14] <kubuc> jedi06, reagrding ATI cards please look at this: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd
[18:14] <jimmy__> Xero, most flash videos will auto save to your tmp folder
[18:14] <hc> Xero, DasE1, note --> using VLC.
[18:14] <kubuc> jedi06, works out of the box with most cards
[18:14] <DasE1> hc : basic system facts ?
[18:15] <kubuc> jedi06, WPA2 can be tricky so
[18:15] <Xero> hc: have you tried any alternate media players, such as MPlayer or Totem?
[18:15] <roger_> ok i copied ubuntu partition to another drive, but i check for uuid to fix the fstab and the terminal shows same id as the drive it's on now, how i fix that
[18:15] <kubuc> jedi06, but WPA1 works
[18:15] <Photoguy> How can I make a Logitech webcam work on Ubuntu?
[18:15] <simplenewb> lzinucs: Ok I'll give it another go last time I tried it things didn't go well but thanks.
[18:15] <hc> Xero, yes, same result. Streamed video of a working pc also stutters. (using vlc via tunneled SSH).
[18:15] <pavi> hi all
[18:15] <DasE1> roger_: sudo blkid shows uuids of your partis
[18:15] <jedi06> well i going to put xp and vista on it so
[18:16] <hc> DasE1, amd, 1.8Ghz X2, 3Gb ram, 7200rpm 120Gb HD, Nvidia Geforce 7000M 256Meg Gfx card .
[18:16] <jedi06> Ok what graphics card do you suggest with ubuntu?
[18:16] <pavi> I deleted my /var/apt/cache directory .. how do I fix it?
[18:16] <roger_> DasE1 that's where i got the id's from, they showing the same and they shouldn't be
[18:16] <jedi06> cheapeast one?
[18:16] <Veinor> is there any way to speed up the GTK file picker? it's incredibly slow for me
[18:16] <DasE1> hc: drivers for grfics card installed ?
[18:17] <odeland> hello, I'm kind of a newbie and I'm wondering if it's possible to have both libstdc++.so.5 and .6 on the same box?
[18:17] <hc> DasE1, yes. Wow plays fine with them, decent fps on it (around 30).
[18:17] <jedi06> cheapest one for a laptop?
[18:17] <Photoguy> !WEBCAM
[18:17] <evans2088> anyone know how to remove the flash plugin from firefox, i need to reinstall it but i cant seem to remove it
[18:17] <Izinucs> jedi06: mine uses the nvidia 6xxx series and works fine
[18:18] <jedi06> Izinucs how much?
[18:18] <Izinucs> jedi06: it's been over a year since I got it so I don't remember
[18:18] <Xero> evans2088: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/uninstall.html
[18:18] <cuci> Hi folks! I have 2 wire net-connections, what program should I be using so that the net settings get automagally changed?
[18:18] <recon61> hc: do you get the issue with all movie files and dvds ?
[18:18] <DasE1> hc: no certain idea then, tried looking in /var/log/syslog after opening a vd ? tried proper vid ? (some avis amongst other formats can be bad)
[18:19] <evil-bob> i'm kinda looking for a torrent site with unbuntu cause my connection sucks an fire fox never resumes a download
[18:19] <hc> recon61, no exceptions.
[18:19] <cuci> something if not neta then netb
[18:19] <evans2088> xero: thanx
[18:19] <avis> has anyone see a bug effect with ATI drivers in intrepid where while playing a video, if totem is moved, there remains a snapshot of the video screen where the window once was -- doesn't show the desktop.  any way to fix this ?
[18:19] <Ienorand> Hia, seems like Symantec is complaining about a pdf-file attack from the ubuntu.com website, anyone know anything about this? I have recently updated Sym. and every time i reload the ubuntu.com page Sym. says something like "an intrusion attack was averted"...
[18:20] <Xero> evil-bob: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[18:20] <MrCollins> !cp directory
[18:20] <hc> DasE1, tried the same (exact same vid, no copies what so ever) on a different pc from a USB stick. It runs fine on that pc. That same vid with the same stick runs bugged on my laptop. copy speed is good, around 20meg/s, on both pc and laptop. recon61
[18:20] <kubuc> avis, yes
[18:20] <powertool08> MrCollins: cp -hR or something to copy a directory recursively, check with cp --help
[18:20] <jedi06> I will be paying 869 for a ubuntu dell studio 15.  1920x1200 screen is only reason I'm considiring it.
[18:20] <Photoguy> How can I make a Logitech webcam work on Ubuntu?
[18:20] <allsystemsarego> evil-bob: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[18:20] <sken> lol
[18:20] <mircmac> Anybody care to take a stab at a intel3954 issue?
[18:21] <sken> hello guys
[18:21] <avis> kubuc:  do you know of a fix for that kubuc ?
[18:21] <MrCollins> quick one: how do I do cp of a dir to another location?  I am passing this command:  cp /$DIRECTORY$ /home/user/$NEWDIRECTORY$
[18:21] <dn5a-b> Last call. i just installed ubuntu 8.10 and the desktop doesnt start. Orange screen shows and thats about it. When i boot it live, the black screen shows with a 'waiting' cursor and it halts once again. Moreover Ubuntu 7.* live boots and works well. ANyone knows whats going on or how to fix the problem? Thank you
[18:21] <sken> did you know what i realised now?
[18:21] <kubuc> avis, for the opensource drivers for most R600 and up cards the driver is not ready for Xvideo, the prop drivers form SATI sucks
[18:21] <MrCollins> powertool08, so it would be cp -hR /dir /home/user/dir  ??
[18:21] <hc> powertool08, MrCollins, cp -R, dont think there's need for the h in there.
[18:21] <newmansan> hey guys. I just installed the compiz fuzion packages, now how do I enable it?
[18:22] <MrCollins> hc what is the h function?
[18:22] <Izinucs> jedi06: you better do some reading about the studio 15 and ubuntu http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dell+studio+15+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&aq=0&oq=dell+studio+15+u
[18:22] <jedi06> But it has a crappy intel ingrated graphics. and fsb is only 667. is only doubts i had
[18:22] <kubuc> avis, you only way is through standard X with opensource drivers but the video chokes a bit sometimes
[18:22] <powertool08> MrCollins: yes, and like hc, probably don't need the h, i just remembered using it at one point but forget what its for
[18:22] <Ximal> is there anything out there besides tor that i can use ?
[18:22] <avis> thank you kubuc
[18:22] <kubuc> avis, reagrding ATI cards please look at this: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd
[18:22] <MrCollins> thank you powertool08  and hc
[18:22] <hc> MrCollins, just checked, it makes it follow command line symbolic links, and has to be a capital H. No need for it, don't use it.
[18:23] <aleks_> всем привет
[18:23] <MrCollins> hc, thank you.
[18:23] <Ximal> that would include anonymization ?
[18:23] <kubuc> avis, it can come soon so (i hope)
[18:23] <powertool08> !ru
[18:23] <aleks_> у кого  есть man  на русском для bash?