[16:55] <escott> jrib, no he is trying to preserve uid's that don't match across different systems
[16:55] <objectlogic> yes
[16:55] <jrib> escott: I see.  Let me read up
[16:55] <objectlogic> hello
[16:55] <escott> iceroot, who has root on this system?
[16:55] <alimj> Wir verstehen nur Bahnhof :: We only understand English language
[16:55] <iceroot> escott: not me
[16:56] <escott> iceroot, so some sysadmin just dumped ubuntu on here not thinking to create the users in the same order
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> objectlogic  type /join #ubuntu-de
[16:56] <iceroot> escott: the target is an old machine not part of the samba-domain
[16:56] <jrib> iceroot: why do you need to preserve the uid?
[16:56] <iceroot> jrib: i dont need it
[16:57] <iceroot> jrib: but as it seems tar is trying to do it as default
[16:57] <objectlogic> hello yes
[16:57] <escott> iceroot, still not an excuse. i would suggest waterboarding as a solution to your current problems or just pull their fingernails off
[16:57] <objectlogic> hello
[16:57] <llutz> objectlogic: Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[16:57] <iceroot> jrib: -no-same-owner is working fine and the new uid is 1001 without that its trying to use 1000
[16:57] <escott> iceroot, but you have to tell tar to extract as the local uid not the specified uid
[16:57] <iceroot> escott: yes and i thought that would be the default
[16:57] <Nvveen> Is there a Unity irc channel?
[16:58] <iceroot> !alis | Nvveen
[16:58] <jrib> iceroot: are you using sudo or something?
[16:58] <iceroot> jrib: no
[16:58] <mathi> I installed vsftpd, it seems that I can connect through SFTP. Now I would like to have root permissions, because I need to change configuration files in /etc/asterisk
[16:58] <iceroot> jrib: tar mxfvz foo.tgz   executing as uid 1001 and the tgz contains files from uid 1000
[16:58] <jrib> iceroot: --no-same-owner is default unless it's done by superuser
[16:59] <mathi> anyone ?
[16:59] <rasp_pie> Hi. I have installed the OS (Ubuntu 12.04) of my NAS on an USB stick. But the stick is quite old and slow and it started to show file system errors. I would like to avoid re-installing the whole Ubuntu with all the configurations I made and instead just copy (dd) the whole stick to a new one. The question here is: This will probably copy the file system errors too, wouldn't it? Is there a...
[16:59] <rasp_pie> ...way to be sure I have a healthy system after copying it?
[16:59] <alimj> mathi: Why don't you use OpenSSH instead? You can change it via shell
[16:59] <llutz> mathi: sftp is openssh, not vsftpd (ftps)
[16:59] <iceroot> jrib: related to the manpage yes
[16:59] <iceroot> jrib: but without that option its failing, with that options its working
[16:59] <jrib> iceroot: what's 'm' do?
[16:59] <plover> I am having a very odd problem with the Ubuntu Studio desktop which I'm not even quite sure how to describe. When I boot, a previous session is being restored. However, the desktop is mostly nonfunctional.  No windows have a top title bar, and many of them have their menu bar glued into the desktop taskbar.  So far I haven't even been able to get a terminal window that I can use. I can't get rid of the session by rebooting.
[16:59] <iceroot> jrib: doesnt modify the utime
[16:59] <alimj> lluz: Agree with you...
[16:59] <mathi> llutz, I have a openssh server on my server, i can access my server with puTTy, now how do I transfer files ?
[17:00] <llutz> mathi: use winscp
[17:00] <alimj> mathi: Or use FileZilla
[17:00] <Flannel> mathi: Use your favorite GUI FTP client, connect via SFTP, using your ssh login/pass.
[17:00] <iceroot> jrib: its the same as --touch, so its creating the file as it would be greatetd right now and is not using the old mtime from the files from the source
[17:01] <mathi> Flannel, that's what I am trying to do, but my user has no root permission ? usually I do "sudo" on putty, but how to have root permissions through my FTP client ?
[17:01] <alimj> mathi: Do not forget that you should use root username and pass to be able to upload files to /etc
[17:01] <jrib> iceroot: I don't know, works ok here (I tar file owned by  userA, then extract as userB with (tar xf file.tar) and userB is the owner. The system you're extracting on is ubuntu?
[17:01] <mathi> alimj, I use Ubuntu, seems I have no root user
[17:01] <qw> hello al help me please: how to disable message update/upgrade from system?
[17:01] <qw> all*
[17:01] <llutz> you cannot ssh/sftp as root, since the root account is locked
[17:01] <alimj> mathi: You can enable root
[17:01] <iceroot> jrib: 10.04
[17:01] <bashinate> ubuntu does not have a root user by default
[17:01] <mathi> alimj, where can I do that ??
[17:01] <Tost> hi..ubuntu noob here..how do I create docs in the etc/apt/sources.lidt.d directory using the File System GUI?  When I right-click to create the doc I see it's greyed out
[17:01] <escott> alimj, there is no root passwd
[17:01] <alimj> mathi: You can enable it but it is dangerous
[17:02] <iceroot> !info tar lucid
[17:02] <alimj> mathi: sudo passwd root
[17:02] <llutz> and it's a really bad idea to allow root access via ssh/sftp
[17:02] <mathi> alimj, but I need to to upload files in /etc/asterisk, right ? there is no alternatives
[17:02] <Flannel> mathi: You won't.  You'll have your user's permissions.  If you want to do admin things you'll need to set up root to (S)FTP, which isn't entirely a good idea.  Why not just modify the config files from within ssh?
[17:02] <alimj> mathi: It is dangerous --- be careful
[17:02] <escott> mathi, dont enable the root account. upload the files to your user account, ssh over and then sudo cp them to /etc
[17:02] <alimj> mathi: sudo passwd root  ----> enables root account
[17:02] <alimj> escott: Agree with you
[17:02] <jrib> iceroot: well the man page in 10.04 doesn't have the same "(default for ordinary users)" clause that it seems to have now with --no-same-owner.  Maybe behavior was different then.  Is there an issue with just passing --no-same-owner?
[17:02] <escott> alimj, please dont tell people in channel how to do that
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> mathi  and if you have to ask how to do it, then better don't do it
[17:03] <iceroot> jrib: i guess i will debug that later, i will reconnect to the system and will have a look what "tar --version" will tell me on that system
[17:03] <iceroot> jrib: maybe the rebuild tar from another source (non-gnu-version)
[17:03] <BlackCyber> что это
[17:03] <iceroot> jrib: no there is no issue to use it
[17:03] <fedor> hi there, is there in u12.04 any ad blocker PROGRAM (not extension) for browsing?
[17:03] <BlackCyber> Who Russian?
[17:04] <iceroot> jrib: now i know what to do :) but when i first startet it, i did not understand what is wrong with it
[17:04] <fedor> I am
[17:04] <escott> !ru | BlackCyber
[17:04] <mathi> privet
[17:04] <iceroot> jrib: on my 12.04 is running with without that option, on 10.04 as it seems tar is different
[17:04] <jrib> iceroot: I see
[17:04] <fedor> privet, zdes' nel'zya pisat' malenkie repliki
[17:05] <iceroot> jrib: so it was not complete my fault :) because i was testing with 12.04
[17:05] <iceroot> escott: jrib thanks for the support
[17:05] <bak-again> lol guise im bak
[17:05] <fedor> so the question i asked remains to be answered . Is there any ad-blocking program available for U12-04?
[17:06] <bak-again> i <3 mods
[17:06] <bak-again> mods are gods
[17:06] <PokemonAcer> hey
[17:06] <fedor> hey pokemon, what's up
[17:06] <PokemonAcer> not mucg
[17:06] <PokemonAcer> much*
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> fedor: Are you aware of any such programs for other versions of Linux?
[17:06] <alimj> fedor: Use no-script plugin for FireFox + Enable play on click in Firefox
[17:07] <PokemonAcer> waiting for iphone to be done, and am installing Ubuntu side-by-side with XP
[17:07] <fedor> the thing is i use chromium and ad-blockers doesn't work there
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> fedor  they do here
[17:07] <dandaman> hi all, i just bought a new hard drive and i want to take an image of my current hd(which has my ubuntu install on it) to put on the new one. Is there a tool that comes with ubuntu(I'm on 10.04 LTS) or one that you guys can recommend?
[17:07] <xangua> fedor: yes they do
[17:07] <fedor> for firefox it's working , but not for chromium :(
[17:07] <ert3go> Hello,my wifi is having some issues.It connects and disconnects intermittently.Any help?
[17:07] <alimj> fedor: You can activate "Play on click" in Chromium
[17:07] <PokemonAcer> hey, does anyone know (OTHER THAN NDISWRAPPER) anything that will let me use a Wifi device made for windows, work with ubuntu? I dont have ethernet
[17:08] <alimj> fedor: That will kill Flash ads
[17:08] <kunji> ...gnome-system-monitor is leaking memory, so is a conky script (because the writer does not understand Cairo), and maybe Xorg is leaking as well, and maybe flash but then again it just bloats whether it's leaking or not, so it's hard to tell.  The script I've fixed before, just need to dig out my fixed version and I guess I should get in touch with the original writer so the one on gnome-look can be fixed.  I guess I'm wondering if anyone
[17:08] <fedor> alimj: nah, i want the same functionality as in windows chrome
[17:09] <kunji> jrib: Thanks again for the help last time with stopping that screen saver, it's been working great since.  ^_^
[17:09] <jrib> kunji: cool
[17:09] <fedor> as far as i understand it, there are some issues for chromium, and they are incorrigible
[17:09] <escott> fedor, there are some iptables based blacklists which would certainly block ads in chrome
[17:09] <alimj> Fedor: Then why don't you install Google Chrome from Google's official repositories?
 i can do that?
[17:10] <alimj> Fedor: I already have both Google Chrome and Chromium
[17:10] <fedor> that's most revealing to me so far :)
[17:10] <dandaman> bueller? anyone? bueller?
[17:10] <alimj> fedor: They will have their independent history + bookmark + .... (unless you sync)
[17:10] <fedor> so i can uninstall ugly chromium, hooray
[17:11] <alimj> fedor: Keep it. It is useful...
[17:11] <fedor> alimj, i cannot see why will it be useful
[17:11] <HowdyDoody> I am trying to modify a desktop icon to also add an environment variable before executing the program to call.  It seems to ignore the env settting.  Do I have some bad syntax here ?  -->Exec=/usr/bin/env PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/virtualbox/:/usr/lib/virtualbox/sdk/bindings/xpcom/python/ gksudo python "/opt/GNS3/gns3"
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> fedor  sudo apt-get purge chromium-browser
[17:12] <andrew_> Hi there, i have a usb DAC which isn't getting recognized as a digital out device (just analog stereo).  Any ideas how I can debug this?
[17:12] <alimj> fedor: I use it since I do website programming. I need one browser in logged in mode and one in anonymous mode
[17:12] <Mudboy> Does anyone know if a recent apache update changed the say the FollowSymLinks works?
[17:12] <jrib> HowdyDoody: sudo usually sanitizes the environment (see "man sudo")
[17:13] <fedor> alimj, still i cannot understand your point. If you have chrom installed what impedes you to use chrome's anonymous state?
[17:13] <escott> HowdyDoody, you may have some crazy interactions between gksudo and env. try putting the env after the gksudo
[17:14] <kunji> fedor: that he can't be be the user and an anonymous entity at the same time in the web app
[17:14] <alimj> fedor: I develop websites. WHile developing websites, you should log on to that site in admin mode. In the meantime, it is necessary to see the changes from others perspective.
[17:14] <escott> dandaman, you can just sudo cat /dev/sda | tee /dev/sdb &>/dev/null
[17:15] <escott> dandaman, alternately look at dd or ddrescue
[17:15] <fedor> i see now your point
[17:15] <dandaman> escott: that simple eh?
[17:15] <alimj> andrew: What is your DAC? Blackmagic-design? Avid?
[17:15] <qhartman> escott, what's the point of the tee in that command, seems extraneous.
[17:15] <escott> dandaman, i would always just reinstall, but if the disks are appropriately similar
[17:15] <escott> qhartman, what other way would work?
[17:16] <dandaman> escott: they arent, but i have settings that i want to preserve
[17:16] <dr_willis> qhartman:  sudo rights dont apply to redirection without the tee
[17:16] <zykotick9> qhartman: sudo doesn't pass through redirects
[17:16] <qhartman> ah, there ya go
[17:16] <HowdyDoody> escott: I thought I had tried that at least 3 different time.  Why not a 4th.   Wierd:  4th times a charm.   It works.   Not the way the examples shows, but I'm good to use it now.  THanks!
[17:16] <andrew_> How can I force pulseaudio to use IEC958 out for a device?  It's not showing up in sound settings, but does with aplay -L
[17:17] <dandaman> going from a 5200 rpm 60gb hard drive from like 7 years ago to a 128gb 6gb/s solid state drive
[17:17] <dandaman> so stoked
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, i realize i did leave off a second sudo on the tee command
[17:19] <dandaman> im jut gonna use clonezilla
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, do NOT use clonezilla
[17:19] <dandaman> orly?
[17:19] <dr_willis> escott:  i thought it looked weird
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, its an awful idea to be doign that
[17:19] <kunji> Hmm, maybe I should file a bug report?  gnome-system-monitor's RAM usage ballooned to 2.1 GB in 6 days.  Does anyone know what would be an expected amount for Xorg to use on a standard Unity install?  Mine at 1.9 GB right now.
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, you are going to mark the entire disk as dirty in the SSD firmware
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, and then have to trim it all out again
[17:19] <jhutchins_wk> escott: What's wrong with clonezilla?
[17:20] <atlef> sorry
[17:20] <escott> jhutchins_wk, nothing wrong with clonezilla. just low level copy in general to an SSD. i didnt realize dandaman was using an SSD
[17:20] <Nasser> hi
[17:20] <dandaman> escott: so plug in the ssd, boot up, then type in sudo cat /dev/sd<original HD ID> | sudo tee /dev/sd<new HD ID> &>/dev/null
[17:21] <dandaman> then set my bios to default to the ssd as the boot device?
[17:21] <dr_willis> kunji:  xorg itself is using 8% of my 512mb here.. but this is on a raspberry pi. ;)
[17:21] <escott> dandaman, you are better off partitioning and then copying files with a command like "sudo cp -aRx / /media/ssd_disk
[17:21] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: You're not booting to the original device are you?
[17:21] <escott> dandaman, i would not do that either
[17:21] <dandaman> jhutchins_wk: i am
[17:21] <escott> dandaman, i would not do any low level copy to the SSD
[17:21] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: Not a good idea.
[17:22] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: You need to boot to a different medium - livd CD or USB.
[17:22] <dandaman> ok, i can handle that
[17:22] <dandaman> brb real quick
[17:22] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: THat will also avoid trying to copy pseudo filesystems like /dev and /proc
[17:23] <kunji> dr_willis: Hmm, yeah, I've got a pi, they're nice, mine isn't connected at the moment though.  Right, I'm thinking almost 2 Gigs is too much, but I'm not sure if other things run under that and are included or if that number is just Xorg itself.  I'm thinking it's leaking, maybe I'll leave it another day and check again.
[17:24] <dr_willis> kunji:  all through beta for 12.10 i had issues where xorg or compiz or somthing would go crazy and lagg the whole system. id restart the X server it would be great for a while... then it would happen again. but i never saw it using lots of ram.. just lots of cpu. ;)
[17:24] <kunji> jhutchins_wk: What's he trying to move?
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> escott: A filesystem is a filesystem, but I certainly wouldn't use cat.  Partclone or dd should be fine.
[17:25] <MichaelP> What is nomodeset command in kernel of boot menu.. for radeon ?
[17:25] <escott> dandaman, boot the livecd. partition the new disk.  mount the old disk to /media/old_disk and the new ssd to /media/new_disk then sudo cp -aR /media/old_disk /media/new_disk. then chroot in and reinstall grub
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> kunji: I think he's moving a debian install to a new disk.
[17:25] <kunji> dr_willis: Hmm, I do see a fair amount of cpu at times, but with 4 cores it doesn't seem to slow things down too badly and goes away after a while.
[17:25] <dr_willis> MichaelP:  nomodeset works for all the gpus.
[17:25] <escott> jhutchins_wk, there is no difference between dd and cat. and a filesystem is a filesystem, but an SSD disk is not a normal hard disk
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> escott: I wouldn't use cp either, I'd use rsync.  Much more robust.
[17:26] <dandaman> a lot of opinions here :( what do i dew?
[17:26] <MichaelP> dr_willis, i know but different distro's do it different
[17:26] <jhutchins_wk> escott: An ssd presents itself as the same kind of device as a regular disk.  The differences are not exposed to the OS.
[17:26] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[17:26] <kunji> jhutchins_wk: Hmm, I think my preferred tool would be ddrescue then, does just copying the files work out for that?  If so, then rsync is the tool for the job after formatting with say gparted.
[17:27] <escott> jhutchins_wk, he is going to mark all the sectors dirty
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: I would probably go with a file-level tool like rsync.
[17:27] <escott> jhutchins_wk, he also probably has an ext2 or ext3 partition that could be moved up to ext4 with extents
[17:27] <dandaman> my original hd is an ext4
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: If the partitions are going to be identical, then using clonezilla is a good idea - it gives you the live CD and it doesn't waste time copying blank space.
[17:27] <escott> dandaman, you will degrade the performance of you SSD by doing a low level copy to the disk
[17:28] <Nasser> any suggestions for live widgets pals?
[17:28] <alimj> dandaman: I second escott...
[17:28] <dandaman> ok, so i need to rsync the files
[17:28] <jhutchins_wk> I would not recommend using ext4 unless you have a specific need for it.
[17:28] <dandaman> got it
[17:28] <dandaman> jhutchins_wk: what should i make my new ssd then?
[17:28] <dandaman> ext3?
[17:28] <alimj> dandaman: Please do not forget to set the boot partition active...
[17:29] <dandaman> alimj: how do i do that?
[17:29] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: rsync -av /input /output - no need for compression (z) since you're not going through any transport.
[17:29] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: Yeah, I'd use ext3.
[17:29] <alimj> dandaman: With fdisk or gparted
[17:29] <alimj> dandaman: ext3 should be OK. You will not require too much journaling....
[17:30] <dandaman> god damn i dont know how to reinstall grub either :(
[17:30] <atlef> !grub
[17:30] <kunji> Hmm, what's with the bias against ext4?
[17:30] <escott> dandaman, you will want the following mount options for an SSD noatime,nodiratime,discard
[17:30] <alimj> kunji: He is using SSD not HDD
[17:31] <escott> alimj, you can use ext4 without journaling
[17:31] <alimj> escott: I also love backward compatibility :P
[17:32] <kunji> alimj: Right, mind explaining though?  Or citing?  You can even use HDD without journaling, is your point just that because the writes are fast that you shouldn't bother with journaling?
[17:32] <jhutchins_wk> Why would you not use journaling on a modern system?
[17:32] <escott> kunji, the idea is that it amplifies the number of writes
[17:32] <alimj> kunji: Writing too much information to SSDs will age them. There is a limit for that.
[17:33] <jhutchins_wk> escott: Actually, the opposite is true, journalling reduces writes.
[17:33] <dr_willis> i still have to wonder at how long the lifespan of these sdds are....
[17:33] <escott> jhutchins_wk, i didnt say i agreed with it
[17:33] <escott> dandaman, welcome to the world of cutting edge technology. a lot of these decisions will depend on how long you expect your SSD to last
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> alimj: That situation has changed drastically in the last few years, current ssds are much less susceptible to degradation.
[17:34] <escott> dandaman, i view SSD as a rather disposable product... if it lasts for 2 years then ill be 2 years closer to being able to buy a robust and well functioning SSD
[17:34] <dandaman> escott: :(
[17:34] <kunji> I would expect that their lifetimes are not all that different from HDDs.
[17:34] <alimj> jhutchins_wk: Almost agree with you...
[17:34] <dr_willis> every thing is disosable these days...
[17:34] <kunji> escott: I've already had one last 2 years
[17:34] <dandaman> kunji: shorter but more predictable
[17:35] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: I would treat it like a normal disk.  Make sure you have good backups; if you're interested in optimizing it research the actual hardware you have - don't go by advice on devices that came out two or three years ago.
[17:35] <alimj> dandaman: You should not be too much worried. Just partition the SSD similar to HDD, then format using ext3. finally use rsync or cp to copy files & update grub
[17:35] <escott> dandaman, i think you will find general agreement on (a) not doing a low level copy (b) setting noatime,nodiratime,discard beyond that to things like journaling vs other filesystems... i dont know
[17:36] <dandaman> alimj: how do i update grub?
[17:36] <escott> !grub | dandaman
[17:36] <dandaman> 2nd link right?
[17:36] <escott> dandaman, follow the chroot set of instructions (you will already have the disk mounted in the livecd)
[17:36] <kunji> dandaman: yeah
[17:36] <jhutchins_wk> danhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[17:37] <alimj> dandaman: It is very important to do it with a liveCD/DVD or USB
[17:37] <dandaman> escott: which set of instr?
[17:37] <dandaman> alimj: will do
[17:37] <escott> dandaman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot ignore the bit about mdadm
[17:37] <escott> dandaman, you will also have to fix up the /etc/fstab because its a new partition with new UUIDs
[17:37] <kunji> alimj: Why would that be important?
[17:38] <dandaman> all useful info
[17:38] <dandaman> ty
[17:38] <alimj> kunji: It is already explained that we want to avoid pseudo files
[17:38] <escott> kunji, cannot get a clean snapshot read of a running filesystem. less important since he is not doing a low level copy
[17:38] <escott> alimj, those can be avoided with cp -aRx
[17:38] <kunji> alimj: Sorry, I thought you were referring to the Grub part
[17:39] <escott> dandaman, the livecd is somewhat optional but i would do it anyways
[17:39] <alimj> escott: yes, but if he has /home (or /dev) on another partition
[17:39] <escott> alimj, which would not be traversed by "-x"
[17:40] <riegersn> i have xchat entry in my ubuntu messaging indicator menu, i've uninstalled xchat-indicator, but its still in the list. how can I remove it?
[17:40] <alimj> escott: I agree but it would be more clear to do it with a live Boot medium. /sda1 -> /sdb1 - /sda2 -> /sdb2 ....
[17:40] <dandaman> well once my ssd arrives in the mail later tonight ill be on here begging for help when everything goes to shit
[17:41] <phrozen-pl> Hello
[17:41] <alimj> escott: Should we mention fstab or not?
[17:42] <escott> alimj, dandaman does have to adjust the fstab but i mentioned it already
[17:42] <trism> riegersn: is this 12.10?
[17:42] <alimj> escott: OK
[17:42] <riegersn> trism, yes
[17:42] <kunji> riegersn: Hmm, did you uninstall it with sudo apt-get remove <package> or sudo apt-get purge <package>?  If it was the first, then you might try doing the second instead, if that doesn't work then you'll need to find where that menu is configured and change it by hand, unfortunately I don't know where that is...
[17:42] <DarkSim> I killed grub on 12.04 help
[17:42] <riegersn> kunji, i did purge actually
[17:43] <phrozen-pl> I have a question about apache + mod_fcgid for python. I have a configuration similar for centos but still having an error premature end of scripts django.fcgi. I installed flup and etc packages but in centos I had to set enforce 0 for selinux which  made a problems.... but in ubuntu I have a problem all the time ...
[17:43] <trism> riegersn: ahh, in 12.10, an item won't be removed from the messaging menu until an up unregisters it or the .desktop file disappears...in this case xchat-indicator only ships the shared lib so when you remove it, I imagine it used the xchat .desktop file
[17:43] <trism> riegersn: might try removing/reinstalling xchat
[17:44] <kunji> trism: what do you mean by an "up"?
[17:44] <trism> kunji: meant app sorry
[17:44] <root__> fg
[17:44] <DarkSim> I only get grub rescue
[17:44] <Tr3v0r> lj
[17:45] <riegersn> trism, that worked. thanks!
[17:45] <escott> DarkSim, boot the livecd. download and run the bootinfoscript from sourceforge. paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:50] <DarkSim> escott: paste.ubuntu.com/1583045/
[17:50] <designbybeck__> when using nano, I got a lil' edit happy editing a long css file. There isn't a way to "roll back" undo? revert back to? by chance?
[17:51] <escott> DarkSim, there is no partition 7. Grub2 (v1.97-1.98) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector
[17:51] <escott>     1 of the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and
[17:51] <escott>     looks in partition 7 for /boot/burg.
[17:51] <designbybeck__> DarkSim: when pasting in weblinks please put in the http:// so that it is easier to click on a link and launch it
[17:51] <DarkSim> Sorry...typed by hand
[17:51] <designbybeck__> gotcha
[17:51] <escott> DarkSim, typed what by hand?
[17:52] <DarkSim> The link
[17:52] <escott> DarkSim, ok the URL.
[17:52] <escott> DarkSim, in any case you need to reinstall grub. its not correct its looking at the wrong partition number
[17:52] <escott> !grub | DarkSim
[17:52] <wjtaylor_> What's the best software for automatically fixing mp3 metadata?
[17:54] <Nitesh> hi
[17:54] <DarkSim> Bah...I'll just wipe the OS all together
[17:54] <DarkSim> Brb
[17:54] <Nitesh> any girl there ?
[17:54] <atlef> wjtaylor, EasyTAG is one
[17:54] <hrundi_bakshi> hi nitesh
[17:54] <josesierra> gnome-shell process is chewing up ram like crazy.  It's up to 221.6mb.  If I pull up Chrome (another memory hog) it chews up 80% of my available ram.  Is this normal...?
[17:54] <hrundi_bakshi> hi Nitesh
[17:55] <Nitesh> kahase ho tum ?
[17:55] <heywood> trying to monitor a process that occasionally runs away and pegs the CPU. am i better off running a watchdog script with a while / sleep loop in the background, or making it a one-off and running it from cron?
[17:56] <hrundi_bakshi> try #bakchodi Nitesh
[17:56] <milind> I have two VM's running ssh in the same host, I want to be able to ssh between the VM's. I am currently running NAT on both but cant seem to ssh, do I need a bridged connection or internal network connection to achieve this? I am using Virtual Box btw
[17:56] <hrundi_bakshi> hi milind
[17:57] <escott> heywood, there are watchdog functionalities in the kernel. you can throttle the process or kill it if it gets away
[17:57] <dr_willis> milind:  what vm are you using?
[17:57] <escott> milind, a NAT will be opaque to computers on the WAN side of the NAT
[17:57] <Nitesh> tumako kya hua ?
[17:57] <dr_willis> milind:  ahh vbox. - it has settings for networking that put them all on the same ip as the local lan
[17:57] <kunji> milind: I think it depends what sort of connection is set up for them in the VM, i.e. is it already bridged etc...
[17:58] <hrundi_bakshi> kuch nahi Nitesh but try #bakchodi for all harami's
[17:58] <dr_willis> milind:  if your host is <IP_ADDRESS>  the vbox machines can have an ip of <IP_ADDRESS> and so forth. if you set it right
[17:58] <Nitesh> hi....
[17:58] <heywood> escott: what i want to do is kill and restart (via sudo, BTW) when the CPU load exceeds some threshold. is there a kernel watchdog that can do that?
[17:58] <dr_willis> milind:  theres like 3 options for networking.  one does it this way where they all appear on the lan.
[17:58] <JuJuBee> I just installed ubuntu 12.10 from USB to an HP Compaq 8300 and it won't boot from the HD.  Same installer on another HP COmpaq 8300 worked fine.  Suggestions?
[17:59] <Nitesh> tumara naam kya he ?
[17:59] <keelG> josesierra: I use the unity shell, however 220mb doesn't sound too crazy - and I don't know what your total amount of memory is. But my ff quickly takes up a few 100mbs as well :)
[17:59] <jhutchins_wk> JuJuBee: What happens when you try to boot?
[17:59] <escott> heywood, try cpulimit
[17:59] <hrundi_bakshi> Nitesh see pvt message
[18:00] <heywood> JuJuBee: can you boot from a liveCD (or the USB), mount the HD, and verify that the install is actually there on the HD?
[18:00] <Nitesh> haa..
[18:01] <JuJuBee> heywood: let me check...
[18:02] <JuJuBee> heywood: seems to be all there
[18:02] <ioria> i run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed gnome also) and  i cannot open file url in gnome- terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please
[18:03] <heywood> escott: looking at manpage now. says it handles runaway processes by "by sending it SIGSTOP and SIGCONT signals". is that equivalent to killall -HUP followed by a restart?
[18:03] <JuJuBee> jhutchins_wk: I also have an  ltsp server running so the machine seems to skip the HD and go to PXE boot.  I checked the bios and have the hd before netboot and even tried using boot menu to select Sata 0.  I get no errors, just goes to PXE
[18:03] <escott> heywood, no
[18:03] <escott> heywood, thats like ctrl-z; fg in the shell
[18:04] <escott> heywood, but you might be able to get it to send a different signal
[18:04] <heywood> JuJuBee: try booting and getting to the BIOS config, before grub (pre-boot kernel selector) comes up. usually it's something like holding F1 down during boot.
[18:05] <heywood> JuJuBee: in there, look for a menu that specifies boot order. check that order to make sure it's sane.
[18:05] <JuJuBee> heywood: already looked at boot menu
[18:05] <JuJuBee> fine
[18:05] <heywood> escott: ok, i'll have to apt-get the source for it and hack away at that. thanks for the pointer.
[18:05] <heywood> JuJuBee: ok, so if the boot menu is sane, what happens when you remove the USB install stick and reboot?
[18:06] <JuJuBee> heywood: it ends up booting to PXE
[18:06] <ikonia> JuJuBee: you will find grub installed to the usb, rather than the hard disk
[18:06] <JuJuBee> Like it cannot find a bootable HS
[18:06] <ikonia> JuJuBee: that is the most common reason for the situation you are in
[18:07] <JuJuBee> ikonia: Ah, let me check that  possibility  I forgot that was an issue
[18:07] <ikonia>  /dev/sda will be your usb disk and I'd bet grub went to that disk
[18:10] <morfeo_81> hi there
[18:10] <dspohn> hey
[18:11] <morfeo_81> Is it possibile to install python notebook n ubuntu 11.04...?If no How can Upgrade to 12 without loss data?
[18:12] <ioria> i run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed also gnome) and  i cannot open file url in gnome-terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please. tx
[18:13] <JuJuBee> ikonia: what is best way to fix grub?
[18:13] <jhutchins_wk> JuJuBee: Sounds like grub got installed to the partition instead of the MBR.
[18:13] <zero_coder> hey, is there any way to check who is using more data in wifi network?
[18:13] <jhutchins_wk> JuJuBee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[18:15] <hillary> i have problem with updating in  ubuntu 12.04
[18:15] <jhutchins_wk> zero_coder: I think the only way to do that would be through the capabilities of the wireless router, and most home gear wouldn't be able to.
[18:15] <zero_coder> :P
[18:16] <zero_coder> is there any way to monitor ?
[18:16] <Nitesh> hi....i am nitesh 21
[18:16] <hillary>  i have problem with updating in  ubuntu 12.04  any help?
[18:16] <newbie_to_ubuntu> I have a question about the linker in gcc ... which chat room should I go to in order to get some help with a tough linker problem
[18:18] <plead> Has anyone noticed no black people use Ubuntu?
[18:19] <hillary> plead: am black kenyan and am using
[18:20] <plead> hillary: really?
[18:20] <hillary> plead: yes!!!
[18:20] <plead> cool
[18:20] <plead> Why do you use Ubuntu?
[18:20] <craigbass1976> Someone mentioned talika here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1366088&highlight=ungroup  But I don't see anything in the repos when searching.
[18:21] <Mitesh123> hi
[18:21] <Mitesh123> is there any girl
[18:21] <hillary> plead:have posted a problem please help
[18:21] <dspohn> lol @ Mitesh123
[18:22] <hillary> Plead: ubuntu is ultimate to me unlike...
[18:22] <dspohn> what are you trying Hillary?
[18:22] <kunji> plead: Hmm, interesting you should mention that, maybe it's just something in the U.S. most of the black people I know personally tend to use Xubuntu, but I'm sure there are many that use the standard variant.
[18:23] <hillary> dspohn: to updte available updates
[18:23] <plead> kunji: okay
[18:23] <plead> lol
[18:23] <kunji> JuJuBee: There are various ways to fix grub, which one is best would depend on the situation.
[18:24] <JuJuBee> kunji:  just used the boot-repair app
[18:24] <JuJuBee> Seems to have fixed fine
[18:24] <hillary> dspohn: my system shows available updates but when i run i get an error"http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583104/"
[18:25] <kunji> JuJuBee: sounds good to me ^_^
[18:26] <iceroot> hillary: please paste the output of "cat /etc/environment" to pastebin
[18:27] <zykotick9> hillary: /opt/mono... eh.
[18:27] <iceroot> !paste | hillary
[18:27] <jhutchins_wk> iceroot: That seems a little redundant since her error is in a pastebin already.
[18:28] <ioria> i run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed also gnome) and  i cannot open file url in gnome-terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please. tx
[18:28] <hillary> zykotick9: yap that is the thing help
[18:28] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk: and can you tell me what is in line 2 of /etc/environment which is causing the error?
[18:28] <zykotick9> hillary: anything installed in /opt is a non-ubuntu package.  and mono is a cancer.  good luck.  don't reply to me further.
[18:28] <kunji> iceroot: I think he meant the part about informing how to pastebin, was maybe a bit pedantic.
[18:29] <iceroot> kunji: ah ok
[18:29] <hillary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583137/
[18:29] <iceroot> hillary: that is not what i was asking for
[18:29] <iceroot> hillary: please paste the output of "cat /etc/environment" to pastebin
[18:30] <jhutchins_wk> hillary: It looks like the configuration script for the mono package didn't suceed, and that's causing the apt system to hang.  I think I would try removing mono, possibly just using dpkg instead of one of the wrappers, then do aptitude -f install to see if it recovers.
[18:30] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: i highly doubt a "package" installed to /opt
[18:30] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk: its not a package-problem
[18:31] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk: its a problem in /etc/environment
[18:31] <ddosantos> hello, first time around
[18:31] <hillary> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583152/
[18:31] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk: there is some mono config and the package which dpkg is trying to configure is parsing /etc/environment
[18:31] <ddosantos> if I may...is this the correct place to ask doubts?
[18:31] <DarkSim> When installing Ubuntu I choose logical type of partition, right?
[18:31] <jhutchins_wk> iceroot: I shall entrust hillary to your superior knowledge of mono - thanks.
[18:32] <iceroot> hillary: gksudo gedit /etc/environment    and then remove the line with :/opt/mono-2.11/bin
[18:32] <kunji> ddosantos: I don't know, what do you mean by doubts?
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: This is a place to ask questions regarding ubuntu support.
[18:32] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk:  its knowlegde of "she executed a PATH command wrong or edited /etc/environment" by hand. its nothing mono specific
[18:32] <ddosantos> well, I was trying to mount an external HD so I can share it with samba
[18:33] <ddosantos> I edited /etc/fstab but it does not mount where I told it
[18:33] <kunji> DarkSim: Doesn't have to be logical, but I would typically.
[18:33] <iceroot> hillary: just remove the line, save the file and everything should be fine
[18:33] <DarkSim> I keep forgetting the settings :P
[18:33] <Tost> I'm trying to use this command to create a file and add contents to it > "echo "The text you want added to a new file" >> the_file_name" but I keep getting 'permission denied' and I don't know why.  Any advice you can offer a linux noob?
[18:33] <hillary> iceroot: i have removed
[18:33] <kunji> ddosantos: Does it mount someplace else?
[18:33] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Paste the fstab to  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:33] <ddosantos> yeah, it actually does
[18:33] <DarkSim> Logical, beginning of space and / mount
[18:34] <ddosantos> paste.ubuntu.com, got it
[18:34] <iceroot> hillary: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       the upgrade should be working now
[18:34] <jhutchins_wk> DarkSim: Usually you only need a logical partition if you go beyond four partitions.
[18:35] <jhutchins_wk> DarkSim In which case you go three physical, one extended, and the rest logical (which are within the extended).
[18:35] <ddosantos> you can have a look at it at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583169/
[18:35] <escott> Tost, who owns "the_file_name"
[18:35] <kunji> DarkSim: Logical is the type of partition, there are two kinds, Logical and Physical.  You get 4 physical ones (unless using GPT), if you need more partitions than that, then you have to use logical ones.
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Does /media/externo exist?
[18:36] <ddosantos> yes it does
[18:36] <ddosantos> I also set the permisions to 777 just in case
[18:36] <kunji> DarkSim: That type being different from the other field that is often called type (the filesystem type), which is what sort of thing the partition will be used for, aka filesystem type, like swap, ext4, etc..
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Where does the device mount instead?
[18:37] <iceroot> hillary: working?
[18:37] <Guest85069> novo por aki
[18:37] <Tost> escott, I'm not sure what you mean but I'm just trying to create a file and name it..
[18:37] <jhutchins_wk> !es | Guest85069
[18:38] <kunji> ddosantos: Have you rebooted?  Or are you testing with the mount command?  Is the drive still listed in mtab?
[18:38] <escott> Tost, if the file already exists someone else may own it and you might not be able to write to it. if its not your directory you might not be able to create files
[18:38] <zykotick9> Tost: fyi (not directly related to your permission issue but) > is redirect to file, while >> is append to file.
[18:38] <escott> !permissions | Tost
[18:38] <ddosantos> yes I tried a reboot a while ago
[18:39] <ddosantos> I am not using the mount command as it mounts itself alone
[18:39] <ddosantos> when switched on
[18:39] <hillary> Iceroot: a minute i will let you know.
[18:39] <zykotick9> Tost: fyi#2 and easy way to create a file is "touch filename"
[18:40] <kunji> ddosantos: Just checking, because sometimes people test after making the change in fstab by using mount -a I think it is to mount everything listed in the fstab.
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: You do not have the auto command in fstab, therefore it will not mount at boot as a part of the normal filesystem.  It is probably being mounted by udev/fuse.  You should doublecheck the UUID.
[18:40] <lolcat> What is the ubuntu repo for chrome, and how do I add it? My browers is stone dead
[18:40] <ddosantos> what do you mean with doublecheck? do you there might be any typo¿
[18:40] <ddosantos> do you think*
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Yes, it's possible.
[18:40] <Tost> thank you for the replies! ubottu, I will check the site..also, why can't I create files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory within the file system GUI?
[18:41] <iceroot> Tost: because the directory belongs to root
[18:41] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: mount -a or mount /media/externo should mount it properly.
[18:41] <zykotick9> Tost: anything outside of /home and /tmp are going to require elevated (ie root) permission probably.
[18:41] <iceroot> Tost: and you are not root, so you are not allowed to write in that directory
[18:41] <ioria> i run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed also gnome) and  i cannot open file url in gnome-terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please. tx
[18:41] <Tost> iceroot, is there a way I can override it or something to be able to use the GUI to create files in there?
[18:41] <Phonequer> How to read dependencies of a package?
[18:42] <ddosantos> should I umount /media/Iomega\ HDD before?
[18:42] <kunji> jhutchins_wk: Hmm?  What is this auto command?
[18:42] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Actually, my mistake, the drive should mount at boot.
[18:42] <ddosantos> yes, I saw a message at boot
[18:42] <zykotick9> Phonequer: "apt-cache depends foo" or "apt-cache rdepends foo" for the reverse version
[18:42] <ddosantos> I hit S to ommit
[18:42] <jhutchins_wk> kunji: Different systems don't default to auto.  Ubuntu defaults and uses noauto for override.
[18:42] <ddosantos> because the hard drive was off at that moment
[18:43] <ddosantos> then when switched on I hoped it would mount at /media/externo
[18:43] <ddosantos> but it didn't
[18:43] <kunji> jhutchins_wk: ah, I see, I'll need to keep that in mind.
[18:43] <Phonequer> zykotick9: thanks
[18:43] <iceroot> Tost: why you need to put files in that directory?
[18:43] <josesierra> keelG: total amount of memory is only 3GB (max 4GB, it's an older system, lol).  But if you're telling me that kind of mem usage is normal, I'll definitely take your word for it!  Thank you (again!!!)
[18:43] <iceroot> Tost: normally you will manage your repos using the software-center
[18:44] <kunji> ddosantos: Hmm, check again that the UUID is right, that the drive is NTFS, and that /media/externo exists with the correct permissions.  I'm not sure what else to look at, I've never actually had a problem with fstab.
[18:44] <iceroot> josesierra: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[18:44] <Grandpa_smasher> im haveing wifi problems AR9485 aetheros, cant resolve servers 1/2 the time... is this driver or dns issue that can be fixed?
[18:45] <ddosantos> kunji: ok, thanks, I will
[18:45] <hillary> iceroot: the result of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:45] <hillary> "is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583192/
[18:45] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Could be either I suppose, have you tried using other dns servers yet?
[18:45] <Grandpa_smasher> have not
[18:45] <Angela> ciao
[18:45] <ddosantos> the output of fdisk -l tells me that that the device is in /dev/sdf1
[18:46] <ddosantos> and blkid of /dev/sdf1 is the one I posted
[18:46] <iceroot> hillary: everything fine and your system is updated successfully with the latest security fixes
[18:47] <ddosantos> /dev/sdf1: LABEL="Iomega HDD" UUID="D27431CF7431B6D7" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:47] <kunji> ddosantos: Oh, hmm, actually are there supposed to be quotes around the UUID?  I think it's not supposed to.
[18:47] <Grandpa_smasher> kunji, how do i go about changing dns?
[18:47] <hillary> iceroot: yes yes yes. I have confirmed!!!!! Thank you so much(Asante Sana)
[18:47] <Tost> iceroot, I'm trying to install OpenNMS on this ubuntu box and it's a requirement..see here Configure APT- "Adding a Repository" section  http://www.opennms.org/wiki/Installation:Debian
[18:47] <iceroot> hillary: you are welcome
[18:47] <ddosantos> aren't they? The other partition with ntfs is being correctly mounted at /media/partiwin
[18:48] <kunji> ddosantos: In mine I do not have quotes around them, and you don't for your first 2 partitions.
[18:48] <iceroot> Tost: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:48] <iceroot> Tost: edit that file with the repos you need
[18:48] <iceroot> Tost: no need to create files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:48] <Tost> iceroot, ok, i was just following the directions but I'll do what you say..
[18:48] <iceroot> Tost: and please remeber, such repos are not supported here, we only support installations with official ubuntu repos
[18:49] <ddosantos> kunji: I will try without them, but it makes me doubt as the sda1 is being mounted at /media/partiwin as expected, and that line does have quotes
[18:49] <kunji> ddosantos: Also I have no - in utf-8, I have utf8.  Maybe the parser is breaking on that right before the last drive?  Try changing those 2 things and give it a go
[18:49] <iceroot> Tost: and dont!!!! put in the squeeze parts
[18:49] <iceroot> Tost: at "installing the jdk"
[18:49] <iceroot> Tost: never put debian repos inside ubuntu
[18:49] <Tost> iceroot; forgive my ignoerance but what's a repo? and where would I go for help with such repos?
[18:49] <iceroot> !repo | Tost
[18:50] <Tex_Nick> !dns | Grandpa_smasher
[18:50] <kunji> ddosantos: hmm, also the utf part is lowercase in mine, I'll post what mine looks like real quick for you.
[18:50] <ddosantos> kunji: thank you for the help, that could be, but then why would the first partition be correctly mounted?
[18:50] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Quotes don't matter, I have both formats and it works either way.
[18:50] <iceroot> Tost: something like that is supported nowhere
[18:51] <iceroot> Tost:  deb http://debian.opennms.org stable main
[18:51] <iceroot>  deb-src http://debian.opennms.org stable main
[18:51] <kunji> ddosantos: If the parser is breaking on the utf portion it will already have the right info for the UUID and mount point of the 1st one and mount it fine, it just may not have the correct locale
[18:51] <iceroot> Tost: that are the only two lines which should be added to that file (still not supported) there other lines with squeeze and so on will break your system 100%
[18:52] <kunji> ddosantos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583223/
[18:52] <zykotick9> iceroot: i'd think testing or unstable would be a lot closer to any currently supported ubuntu version then squeeze (10.04 based).  Tost
[18:52] <JuJuBee> ikonia: SO I used the stick to reinstall on another computer and on boot it set the internal HD to sda and the usb stick to sdb.  So grub was set to the correct location.  Rebooted and got grub rescue
[18:52] <kunji> ddosantos: It's worth a shot, can't hurt to try it
[18:52] <iceroot> zykotick9: i bet it will still break the system
[18:52] <zykotick9> iceroot: agreed!
[18:53] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Thanks for helping Grandpa_smasher, I was preoccupied
[18:53] <iceroot> zykotick9: multiarch, systemd, udev, dbus, libc6 dependency-issues and so on
[18:53] <ddosantos> kunji: sure, I will do that. Can you please tell me if all your three mounted devices are external or internal?
[18:53] <iceroot> zykotick9: all the nice thinks which will happen by mixing repos :)
[18:53] <ddosantos> that could have something to do
[18:53] <zykotick9> iceroot: ;)
[18:53] <kunji> ddosantos: internal, but it shouldn't matter.
[18:53] <Tex_Nick> kunji : np ... good to see you :-)
[18:53] <ddosantos> as in my case, one of them is internal (the one which mounts ok) and the other one external
[18:54] <iceroot> zykotick9: but without sid there is no real fun .)
[18:54] <ddosantos> anyway I am going to remove the - and let's see
[18:54] <zykotick9> iceroot: 'cause when it breaks, you get to keep all the pieces ;)
[18:54] <kunji> ddosantos: Hmm, you think it might be some sort of usb issue?  It's possible, I did have one drive in the past that didn't work because it wasn't getting enough power right at boot.
[18:55] <iceroot> zykotick9: :)
[18:55] <Grandpa_smasher> no problem kunji getting bind9 now
[18:55] <ddosantos> what I was thinking is that maybe it tried to mount it at boot, but it couldn't, then failed with the system running
[18:56] <kunji> Tex_Nick: I got that screen thing resolved eventually with jrib's help, I posted it here for someone that was having the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074264&page=2  turns out Flash had nothing to do with it.
[18:56] <iceroot> zykotick9: for a real dependency fight you need a newer libc6. everything else is boring and can be fixed with alot of effort
[18:56] <iceroot> zykotick9: but libc6 errors....
[18:57] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: ntfs-3g is correct according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[18:57] <Grandpa_smasher> god bind9 no is too complicated 4 me
[18:57] <Tex_Nick> kunji : great to hear that ... jrib is good ... & thanks for the link, i'll make a note of it for future reference :-)\
[18:58] <ddosantos> jhutchins_wk: yes, locale=es_ES.UTF-8 should also be
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Oh, I see, he was talking about utf8.  See the system generated entries without the -
[18:58] <orudie> Hi. How can I burn .iso to a usb disk ?
[18:59] <lazer> !usb
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Those are codepages though, not localles.
[18:59] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Umm, sorry, wait up, bind9?  Isn't that overkill?  Maybe that wasn't the right link to be looking at.
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: So does partwin mount correctly?
[19:00] <ddosantos> jhutchins_wk: actually it does
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Then the format of the fstab entry is correct and should work for either one.
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: What happens when you try mount /media/externo?
[19:01] <ddosantos> may fstab be in conflict with some other file that makes the drive mount on its own?
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Not quite the way it works.
[19:02] <orudie> no, I want to burn an iso in ubuntu
[19:02] <Guest1649> hi
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: If your fstab entry is broken, other mechanisms will mount the drive.
[19:02] <orudie> I already have ubuntu 12.04 installed. I downloaded an .iso file and now I need to burn it to a USB (not as data). Any help ?
[19:02] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Open up the network manager and pick the connection you're using, click edit, go to IPv4 (or 6 if you're using it already) and you should see a field for entering additional DNS servers.
[19:03] <jhutchins_wk> orudie: The instructions for installing from a usb drive will tell you how to "burn" it.
[19:03] <Grandpa_smasher> ya its blank, what should i enter
[19:03] <qhartman> orudie, the easiest way would be to mount the iso and then just copy them like you would any other files
[19:03] <ddosantos> um, that's weird
[19:03] <Guest1649> use untebootin
[19:03] <Kroach> does zenity --list --checklist/--radiolist have an item limit?
[19:03] <ddosantos> it actually mounts the drive typing mount /media/externo
[19:03] <jhutchins_wk> qhartman: That won't create a bootable drive.
[19:03] <zykotick9> qhartman: if it's a bootable iso, i highly doubt your method would work.
[19:04] <Grandpa_smasher> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[19:04] <Guest1649> will some body tell what is full form of GRUB
[19:04] <ddosantos> thanks you all for your time
[19:04] <Grandpa_smasher> Guest1649,  full form?
[19:04] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Then it _shoud_ automount if you connect it after boot, but because the iomega has replaceable cartridges it might not.
[19:04] <qhartman> jhutchins_wk, zykotick9 - he never said that's what he needed to do, just that he had an iso and that he wanted to "burn" to usb.
[19:04] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Well, whatever other dns server you want to use OpenDNS maintains several, but you would need to look them up, I don't remember them.  Google maintains an easy one to remember <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:05] <ddosantos> yes, it automounts, but in another path
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: I think the next thing to check is seeing if it mounts properly if it's powered up at boot.
[19:05] <Grandpa_smasher> ty kunji ill try the google one
[19:05] <ddosantos> that was my idea, yes
[19:05] <ddosantos> I don't know why I didn't think of that before
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> qhartman: Do you have an objection to using the method used for install isos?
[19:06] <Kroach> Guest1649: you mean what the shortcut stands for? GRand Unified Bootloader
[19:06] <Nitesh> any girl here.....16-22
[19:07] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Your method _should_ work - it works for USB drives I have in order to define permissions for the mounts, but the iomega, well, rules are different.
[19:07] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Actually though I think it will still try the other one first, as it is primary and so it still may be slow.  You might need to set up a static ip to force it to use only the dns entries you set (I believe it grabs others through DHCP).
[19:07] <ddosantos> jhutchins_wk: thanks for the support, I will make some tests. I think I will set the settings to noauto and mount it manually when needed, as I don't it need it to be always there
[19:07] <ddosantos> don't need it*
[19:07] <Bookwormser> Hello, how do you disable tftp service?
[19:07] <Nitesh> any girl here.....16-22
[19:08] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: You might experiment with blkid on the drive without a cartridge vs with one.
[19:08] <mda> hello
[19:08] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: How did you enable it?
[19:08] <qhartman> jhutchins_wk, not neccesarily. Depends on what the person is trying to do exactly. If they are trying to a make a bootable USB from a bootable ISO, it makes sense. If they just need the files on the drive, it's overly complicated and requires that anythingalready on the drive be lost.
[19:08] <Bookwormser> jhutchins_wk: Not sure. It came up on an audit.
[19:08] <DJones> Nitesh: Wrong channel for dating
[19:08] <ddosantos> I don't know what's a cartridge
[19:08] <mda> hello - i just installed ubuntu on an usb with universal usb installer i did  NOT choose persistant file size - does uvuntu save data on my usb if i browse or use skype !? ty
[19:09] <ddosantos> I'm googling it
[19:09] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: No way to find out who enabled it & why?
[19:09] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: It's not trivial to set up, so they must've had a good reason.
[19:09] <kunji> Nitesh: This is not a dating chat, stop being an asshole.
[19:09] <Bookwormser> jhutchins_wk: I can ask around. It shouldn't be enabled though, as this is just a historical data server.
[19:09] <tqrst> BluesKaj: uptime pissing contest? What? I was just asking why you were focusing on "startup scripts" given that I haven't "Started up" in forever.
[19:09] <qhartman> jhutchins_wk, if they just need the stuff from the image on the USB disk, then mounting / copying is the most expedient method to get it.
[19:09] <ddosantos> thanks again, see you another time. Bye
[19:09] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: Off the top of my head /etc/init.d/tftpd stop should turn it off, then use update-rc.conf to prevent it from auto-starting.
[19:10] <mda> anyone  ?
[19:10] <mda> hello - i just installed ubuntu on an usb with universal usb installer i did  NOT choose persistant file size - does uvuntu save data on my usb if i browse or use skype !? ty
[19:10] <Bookwormser> jhutchins_wk: Thanks, I will check it out.
[19:10] <kunji> mda: I believe not, you could just check though, since you've already installed it
[19:10] <mda> ty but how can i check ?
[19:11] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: tftp is mostly used for PXE - booting from the network.  It's sometimes used to transfer files to embedded devices (programming a router).
[19:12] <kunji> mda: Umm, I mean just literally check the places you think it might be saved and see if it is.  I think you will not find any though.  For instance, you could bookmark a page, reboot, and see if there is a bookmark.
[19:12] <Bookwormser> jhutchins_wk: Excellent, thank you. I got it squared away now.
[19:13] <jhutchins_wk> xlnt
[19:16] <pushcx> I'm running 12.10 and trying to get Nautilus to forget the password to an afp share I told it to 'remember always'. Everything I can find says it should be in seahorse, but zero of my network share passwords are in there. Where else should I look?
[19:19] <trees> I desperately need help repairing my GRUB2 setup, its stuck in repair mode
[19:19] <trees> and Im kindof lost on how to fix it
[19:20] <number9> I installed ubuntu 12.04 via the alternate install disk with lvm and full encryption onto a 320GB hard drive. When I go into thunar it tells me that I have only 80GB free, and it lists a 320GB hard drive that is unmountable as a 'removable drive' is this normal?
[19:21] <niallobroin> I'm trying to install opendkim and opendkim-tools on precise, but there's a version conflict. opendkim-tools : Breaks: opendkim (< 2.5.2+dfsg-2~) but 2.5.2+dfsg-1ubuntu3 is to be installed  Should I file a launchpad bug?
[19:22] <hillary> i installed winff in ubuntu 12.04 and it used to work but it is no longer doing any conversion. Any problem?
[19:22] <alimj> number9: I also use LVM with encryption... What you say is not normal!
[19:23] <number9> alimj: that's what I thought. When I go in in gparted things look semi normal though, a small boot partition and then an extended encrypted partition for the rest of the disk.
[19:24] <alimj> You should have everything else on that encrypted partition (including swap)
[19:24] <alimj> number9: My setup is 32gb for root, 4gb for swap and the rest for /home
[19:26] <alimj> number9: Plus one small un-encrypted 2gb partition for /boot
[19:26] <number9> alimj: thanks for your help, I might try a reinstall?
[19:27] <alimj> number9: Not necessarily.
[19:27] <alimj> number9: Please note that the system shows LVM2 partition and it can not mount it
[19:28] <ns-nazri> i have problem! i have smartphone neo L, when i connect usb in my linux, it is not working, what happen?
[19:29] <number9> alimj: well that's the weird thing is that it does mount because there is only that one partition, and so that is where my /home /swap and whatever are! But a harddrive shows up on my desktop that is 320GB that is unmountable
[19:30] <alimj> number9: That 320GB is the main LVM2 container. You should take care about the partitions within the LVM2
[19:30] <ns-nazri> but i see not have smartphone computer
[19:30] <alimj> number9: Please wait a second, I am looking into my notes to send you a useful URL
[19:31] <alimj> number9: after creating the LVM, use something like these commands: lvcreate -n swap -L 8G vg
[19:32] <hillary> any problem with my winff ubuntu 12.04
[19:32] <Phonequer> If I have libboost-filesystem1.50-dev installed, does it automatically provide libboost-filesystem-dev? The same for 1.49 ?
[19:32] <alimj> number9: lvcreate -n home -l 100%FREE vg
[19:32] <alimj> number9: Please take note of -l 100%FREE
[19:32] <alimj> number9: Then you can: mkswap  /dev/mapper/vg-swap
[19:33] <alimj> number9: ... and: mkfs.ext4 -L home /dev/mapper/vg-home
[19:33] <simpleuser> Hello there. Did someone try to configure Kobo after buying it, on Ubuntu ? I followed this tuto : http://nicofonk.fr/index.php?article9/installer-kobo-desktop-sur-debian-ou-ubuntu
[19:34] <alimj> number9: Actually I created a separate lv for root (/)
[19:34] <simpleuser> But now when i launch "Kobo" in terminal i get this : "/usr/local/Kobo/Kobo: error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.so.44: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[19:34] <ciccio> list
[19:34] <simpleuser> Any idea ?
[19:34] <alimj> number9: before creating /home I did: lvcreate -n root -L 32G vg
[19:35] <alimj> number9: However, you can have both /home and / on the same partition
[19:35] <alimj> number9: Or better to say, on the same logical volume...
[19:36] <number9> alimj: Thanks! I'll look into that. Is there a simple way to look into that without changing my configuration? Also will suspend (risky from a privacy standpoint, but convenient) and hibernate work?
[19:36] <alimj> yes
[19:36] <alimj> number9: One moment...
[19:37] <xkernel> is there a calender application that integrates with the desktop to give alerts on schedules?
[19:37] <simpleuser> Anyone ?
[19:37] <alimj> number9: lvextend, lvdisplay
[19:37] <alimj> number9: The first command should be able to extend a logical volume to the entire available space on volume group
[19:38] <alimj> number9: The first command is really useful. It displays the currently status
[19:39] <alimj> number9: Also lvscan
[19:39] <number9> alimj: thanks again, a bunch! I was not making progress in google alone. I'll try these things out and return if I have others! you're the best!
[19:39] <semarjt> hey guys, i got a new ubuntu install, it seemed to install ok and even  booted once. However now when i boot I get the black screen/blinking cursor forever. Most solutions involv changing grub...I cant even get grub to come up (holding shift does nothing) going back to the livecd (usb key) i can mount and explore the filesystem..
[19:39] <alimj> number9: Home it helps.
[19:39] <semarjt> (12.04)
[19:40] <alimj> number9: I will be going. Others will help
[19:40] <dufa> Hello! I have recieved a bootable dvd and would like to verify that the burned iso is actually the right one. I know what the md5 of the iso should be, but I am unceirtan as to how to verify the burned cd. Any help?
[19:41] <alimj> dufa: Check md5 of the DVD
[19:41] <alimj> dufa: use md5sum /dev/sr0
[19:42] <alimj> dufa: /dev/sr0 should be replaced with your DVD drive address
[19:42] <dufa> alimj: the dvd is in /dev/sr0, should md5sum /dev/sr0 return the the correct sum?
[19:42] <alimj> dufa: YES
[19:42] <dufa> alimj: well, I thought so, but it doesn't
[19:43] <alimj> dufa: As soon as you execute the command, DVD starts spinning fast and reads the entire DVD
[19:43] <alimj> dufa: Then the DVD is not same as ISO
[19:43] <mimir> hi, i have a ASUS ROG G75VW laptop with AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (ath9k driver) and wireless n does;t work at all. won't see any n networks...
[19:44] <dufa> alimj: ok, it seems it isn't, just wanted to make sure as i didn't burn it myself, thanks
[19:44] <alimj> dufa: Anytime
[19:44] <mimir> connection is stable on 2.4Ghz, but it's slow... :(
[19:44] <mimir> can i do anything to enable n?
[19:44] <alimj> OK, Bye guys - Time to sleep. zZz zZz
[19:45] <jhutchins_wk> !ath9k
[19:45] <mimir> !ath9k
[19:45] <Amacidia> Hey everyone. I have several DVD's that store some tar/gz files. No matter what disc I use, I'm always getting "Error splicing file: input/output error". Any ideas?
[19:46] <mimir> looks like the bot doesn't know anything about ath9k
[19:46] <Amacidia> I'm trying to copy the files off the dvd onto the local drive.
[19:46] <jhutchins_wk> mimir: You need the ath9k_htc driver + firmware.
[19:47] <mimir> jhutchins_wk: cool, let me look into that
[19:47] <mimir> jhutchins_wk: thanks :)
[19:48] <hillary> iceroot: still there?
[19:50] <hillary> Am preparing for RHCE exam  in 4 months any body with study resources to help me?
[19:51] <SocialEvil> guys if i want to open a program in a terminal, how can i open it but when i close the terminal, the program to continue to work ?
[19:51] <jhutchins_wk> hillary: #rhel
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> SocialEvil  use screen
[19:51] <mimir> jhutchins_wk: hm looks like my device isnt' in the supported devices list: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc/devices
[19:51] <dspohn> didn't work hillary?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> SocialEvil  type screen, then enter, then the program
[19:52] <jhutchins_wk> SocialEvil: Then detach the session.
[19:52] <hillary> dspohn: iceroot helped and now it perfect! Thank you good people
[19:53] <dspohn> hillary, I saw that.. good job
[19:53] <hillary> jhutchins_wk: Redhat certified engineer exams
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> SocialEvil  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[19:54] <zykotick9> SocialEvil: i'm a long time screen user, but recently switched to tmux... just something to consider
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> hillary: THe people in rhel may know of some resources.  Be aware that because RedHat is in the buisiness of making money by selling those resources they're harder to find free than similar material for Ubuntu.
[19:54] <SocialEvil> thank you guys
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> hillary: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/ is useful
[19:54] <hillary> xchat people are really encouraging
[19:55] <dspohn> irssi user here
[19:55] <folorn> anyone know a good web cam application besides cheese that WORKS?
[19:55] <hillary> jhutchins_wk: your advice to me?
[19:56] <folorn> cheese just trys to load then quits out so i dont know what to do ...could anyone help?
[19:56] <folorn> i need it for pictures and taking videos
[19:56] <hillary> jhutchins_wk: am open source fun and wish to promote linux in kenya
[19:59] <folorn> nobody got any ideas then?
[20:00] <thechef> Is nvidia 310 going to land in Ubuntu LTS any soon as non-experimental?
[20:01] <thechef> I think on NVIDIAs side it's a non-experimental release - does the integration to LTS make problems?
[20:01] <iceroot> thechef: it will never be there normally
[20:02] <iceroot> thechef: there will be no major-updates within an ubuntu-release, only security-fixes
[20:02] <thechef> iceroot: what is then the difference between current and current-updates?
[20:03] <iceroot> thechef: you mean "precise" and "precise-updates" for example?
[20:03] <hany> can you help me?
[20:03] <thechef> iceroot: no, specifically in the case of nvidia: nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates (at least I think that's the name of the packages)
[20:03] <iceroot> thechef: dont know
[20:04] <hany> i want install package c++
[20:04] <Alocer> iceroot: in additional drivers.
[20:05] <thechef> iceroot: well it says in jockey or "additional drivers" that nvidia-current-updates contains "Nachträgliche Aktualisierung" which translated to english means "updates which were made available after". If I understand correctly this means that it contains drivers which were made available AFTER the release of Ubuntu LTS - so I expect it to contain 310 sooner or later..
[20:06] <iceroot> thechef: yes, sounds like nvidia is patching there package with newer stuff
[20:06] <tacotruck123> I have a usb drive that is showing it is write protected in windows...when I launch gparted and try to format it...it gives me input output error. Any ideas?
[20:07] <iceroot> thechef: the packages maintained by ubuntu will not hit major updates (there are a few exceptions)
[20:07] <Alocer> iceroot: 310 is experimental i think
[20:08] <thechef> iceroot: I'd guess the nvidia drivers would be such an exception, just like other kernel stuff (such as kernel backports)
[20:10] <iceroot> thechef: its up to nvidia, ubuntu is not maintaining the nvidia package
[20:11] <Alocer> iceroot: what about the tests ?
[20:11] <Alocer> iceroot: will Ubuntu test the packages?
[20:11] <Wug> Would anyone by any chance know a command I could use to force reconfigure chromium-browser and all of its dependencies?
[20:11] <iceroot> Alocer: as i said, its all up to nvidia
[20:12] <iceroot> Wug: sudo dpkg --reconfigure packagename  should work
[20:12] <Ashe`> hi, I'm having some issue: trying to use llvm 3.3 (which I built and then statically linked against), however it seems like libLLVM-3.1.so is used by OpenGL (from the look of it) and the two don't really play along: http://pastebin.com/mgJuARmq
[20:13] <Ashe`> (that's without installing the llvm-dev package, by the way)
[20:13] <Wug> iceroot: that doesnt reconfigure dependencies
[20:14] <ciccia> ciao
[20:14] <Wug> I can't view a specific webpage, I get a nonsensical error
[20:14] <Wug> I'm convinced its a broken dependency somewhere because reinstalling it didnt fix it and other browsers (and the same browser on other computers) work fine
[20:14] <Alocer> Wug: look in ~/.config maybe there is sth to change or delete there
[20:15] <ciccia> list
[20:15] <ThinkT510> Wug: sure its not an extension you installed?
[20:15] <Wug> It used to work and suddenly stopped, and no amount of flushing settings has worked
[20:16] <Wug> I haven't installed any extensions
[20:16] <Alocer> Wug: e.g. www.yahoo.com, you can ping it but cant browse it with chromium or firefox ?
[20:17] <Wug> its https://cs.rit.edu
[20:17] <Wug> I can see it fine without https and from firefox
[20:17] <Wug> only chrome doesn't work, gives error 2
[20:17] <Wug> (Unknown Error)
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> Wug: Look for a .chromium folder in your homedir.  Rename or delete.
[20:18] <ThinkT510> Wug: The site's security certificate is not trusted! < thats what i get
[20:18] <Wug> yeah, its self signed
[20:18] <Wug> I dont even get the warning page
[20:19] <Wug> renaming ~/.config/chromium did not fix it (but it cleared all of my history, settings, and extensions)
[20:20] <Wug> my one extension which I guess I did have (installed for months, has never caused issues before, likely unrelated)
[20:20] <Alocer> Wug: so if you hadn't added the security certificate then it should give you error. am i right ?
[20:20] <Wug> it should warn me that the certificate is self signed, but it doesnt
[20:20] <Wug> I get absolutely nothing
[20:20] <ThinkT510> Wug: i thought you said you haven't installed any extensions
[20:20] <Wug> ThinkT510: I thought so too, but I had one
[20:20] <Wug> its unrelated.
[20:21] <ThinkT510> Wug: are you sure?
[20:21] <Wug> renaming ~/.config/chromium removed it and problem persists
[20:22] <drokita> Has anyone else had an upgrade of Ubuntu 12.04 to kernel 3.6.6 break their video and display?
[20:22] <ThinkT510> drokita: kernel upgrades can't be supported here
[20:22] <Alocer> Wug: i m thinking the problem is caused by the website. maybe your firefox is using cache to view the website
[20:22] <djzn> j #archlinux
[20:23] <drokita> ThinkT510: ok... is there a better forum for that?
[20:23] <Wug> Alocer: documents there are updated frequently, I've made absolutely sure that the problem is exclusive to chromium
[20:23] <Alocer> :-?
[20:24] <Wug> if you were to accept the invalid (self signed) cert you'd be able to see everything there
[20:24] <Alocer> correct
[20:25] <ThinkT510> Wug: and you are using the chromium from the repo?
[20:25] <Brewster> ok so I have really ruined my computer
[20:25] <Wug> ThinkT510: chromium-browser, Version 23.0.1271.97 Ubuntu 12.04 (23.0.1271.97-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>)
[20:25] <Salastil> Does anyone know of a way to launch xchat at startup that allows it to be closed to the desktop? When have it autostarted it closes and the process can't be reclaimed. However when I close it and restart the program it works just fine. Is there a command I can set in the boot sequence to do this?
[20:26] <millennia> Brewster | aww, what happened?
[20:27] <Brewster> Basically I went to update my graphics drivers and now nothing works. I set up ubuntu so that my home folder is encrypted. How would I back that up and restore it?
[20:27] <Wug> Brewster: if you hit ctrl+alt+F1 do you get a shell?
[20:27] <Wug> if you do you can fix things from there
[20:28] <drokita> What forum does one go to discuss Ubuntu kernel upgrade problems
[20:28] <drokita> ?
[20:28] <shock_one> drokita, try askubuntu
[20:28] <Brewster> it goes to a terminal log in but after like 15 seconds the monitor loses signal and everything freezes
[20:28] <drokita> shock_one: thanks!
[20:29] <millennia> Brewster | you could back up it's data in encrypted form, but there might be no way to restore it from another Os install
[20:29] <Brewster> I have that key that it gave me when it was encrypted
[20:30] <Wug> Brewster: try a different monitor.  The terminal should more or less always work and does not require graphics drivers to work.  I've had monitors that didn't like to display the ttys for long
[20:30] <Wug> they'd flicker back and forth between showing it and "signal out of band"
[20:30] <millennia> Brewster | ok. then maybe you could
[20:31] <Brewster> I guess this was for the better... I was planning on backing everything up and then installing windows for gaming and then ubuntu on top of it for a while now
[20:32] <Wug> Brewster: chances are you could boot to single user mode or something and fix the drivers
[20:33] <Wug> you could probably also boot it and ssh into it
[20:33] <Wug> borked graphics shouldnt stop ssh from working
[20:35] <millennia> Brewster | Is you graphics/monitor setup anything special or just a standard one video card and one monitor?
[20:36] <sobotka> hi there
[20:36] <sobotka> need some advice, anybody care to help?
[20:37] <qhartman> don't ask to ask, just ask, and if someone is willing / able to help, they will.
[20:37] <DJones> sobotka Without details, nobody will know whether they can help
[20:37] <sobotka> i have a 10.10 ubuntu netbook remix
[20:37] <sobotka> on my netbook
[20:38] <bekks> sobotka: 10.10 isnt supported anymore.
[20:38] <Wug> just ask anyway
[20:38] <sobotka> i know. so i think it's time to get rid of it
[20:38] <sobotka> what do you suggest i should do: upgrade 11.04 then 11.10 or clean install
[20:38] <Brewster> millennia: one video card 2 monitors
[20:38] <millennia> sobotka | you see, if it was 10.04 it would still be supported :)
[20:38] <sobotka> yea i know
[20:39] <Brewster> oh ssh
[20:39] <millennia> sobotka | always go for the clean install
[20:39] <Brewster> didn't think of that
[20:39] <OerHeks> sobotka, my choice would be do a clean install
[20:40] <millennia> Brewster | does it work with just one monitor? connected?
[20:40] <Brewster> sure
[20:40] <sobotka> of course, clean install seams right, but it's more painful for me: usb boot out of the question
[20:40] <Brewster> I can turn one off and it works just fine
[20:40] <sobotka> *seems
[20:40] <sobotka> so is it really nasty to try to double upgrade?
[20:41] <millennia> Brewster | that narrows down your problem. The drivers are ok and don't need to be reinstalled. You just need to configure them for dual monitors
[20:41] <Brewster> le sigh
[20:42] <belgianguy> at this point, if I get a VPS, am I better off with 12.10 or 12.04 LTS?
[20:42] <bekks> belgianguy: 12.04
[20:42] <belgianguy> for a server I'd opt for 12.04 LTS
[20:42] <Brewster> but I know the drivers don't work now. Apparently 310 doesn
[20:42] <belgianguy> bekks: ah, k :)
[20:42] <millennia> sobotka | even one upgrade is a game of russian rouletter with 3 bullets
[20:42] <bcuraboy> hi guys..i've managed to install Pear Linux in dual boot with win8.but after i've installed the nvidia driver from the additional drivers aplicattion,when i rebooted the system it appears only a black screen with the command line..what should i do?
[20:42] <Brewster> t support nvidia 7x cards
[20:42] <ThinkT510> millennia: you don't need a pipe to send a message
[20:43] <Brewster> probably didn't use the right words but I know this driver wasn't written for my graphics card
[20:43] <sobotka> millennia: i've upgraded several times before with no problems whatsoever, but never attempted a double upgrade
[20:43] <millennia> Brewster ++ if it wasn't the right driver, it wouldn't work in single monitor mode either
[20:44] <Brewster> exactly
[20:44] <Brewster> I still see the terminal login
[20:44] <Brewster> no fancy gui's
[20:44] <Brewster> just text
[20:45] <Wug> ThinkT510: update.  I receive the following message on stdout when I attempt to visit the page: [16496:16523:0128/153851:ERROR:cert_verify_proc_nss.cc(760)] CERT_PKIXVerifyCert for www.cs.rit.edu failed err=-8016
[20:45] <theseus> here is a weird one,  minimizing Thunderbird logs me out of ubuntu 12.04.  Can anyone relate and solve?
[20:46] <millennia> Brewster := what was your video card and which driver are you using?
[20:46] <sobotka> so i guess there's no more "ubuntu netbook remix". anybody know how 12.04 works on netbooks?
[20:46] <Brewster> I believe it was geforce 7950
[20:47] <Brewster> and I had attempted to update to 310
[20:47] <Brewster> the official ones
[20:47] <millennia> Brewster := you men the proprietary official drivers?
[20:47] <Brewster> yes
[20:47] <red82> www-docs is the ubuntu equivalent of the apache user in fedora ?
[20:50] <bekks> red82: No. www-data is the apache-user in Ubuntu.
[20:50] <red82> bekks: right, data.  my bad.
[20:50] <red82> ty
[20:51] <millennia> Brewster | which version were you using before the upgrade to 310?
[20:52] <BrianV_> Hello folks :), Who is willing to help me with a -minor- crontab issue?
[20:52] <Brewster> some variation of 304
[20:53] <millennia> Brewster | and it worked ok with dual monitors?
[20:53] <Brewster> yes
[20:53] <Wug> hey, I fixed it
[20:53] <Wug> I had an old certificate stored for it
[20:54] <Wug> some sort of buggy behavior was happening and the error it was giving me was bogus
[20:54] <Wug> but removing the old certificate and restarting the browser fixed it.
[20:55] <millennia> Brewster | would it be a poison pill to revert back to 304?
[20:55] <Brewster> absolutely not
[20:55] <jrib> BrianV_: just give your details in your question
[20:55] <millennia> Brewster | I'm guessing that would be the best remedy then
[20:56] <Brewster> but I have tried that
[20:56] <Brewster> uninstalling the nvidia experimental and then installing nvidia-current-updates
[20:56] <Brewster> I have even tried the manual installation from the nvidia site
[20:56] <Brewster> no luck there
[20:57] <BrianV_> jrib: I have a ubuntu 12.04 LTS server running, but when I create a crontab entry with crontab -e nothing happens. i.e: the given task is not running. No errors in the cron.log
[20:57] <millennia> Brewster | so you completed all that but it's still broken? :(
[20:57] <jrib> BrianV_: do you have a final newline in your crontab?
[20:57] <Brewster> yes
[20:58] <BrianV_> jrib: what do you mean with final newline?
[20:58] <jrib> BrianV_: an empty line at the bottom of your file
[20:58] <BrianV_> jrib: yes I have. Since 'nano' adds it automatically.
[20:58] <Aknot> Anyone know how i can add intergalactic fm stations to radio tray? Their stations can be only dled from facebook page but radio tray requires url. https://www.facebook.com/IntergalacticFM/app_297412757023541
[20:59] <jrib> BrianV_: pastebin your crontab
[21:00] <BrianV_> jrib: SHELL=/bin/bash
[21:00] <BrianV_> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[21:00] <BrianV_> # m h dom mon dow user  command
[21:00] <BrianV_> */5 * * * * nobody /usr/bin/php /home/vs320/domains/bvprod.com/public_html/support/api/cron.php
[21:00] <jrib> BrianV_: use a pastebin
[21:02] <millennia> Brewster | apparently you are mot the only victim of this exact same bug
[21:03] <BrianV_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583620/plain/
[21:03] <Eagleman> Is it possible to shutdown an interface when a specific quota is reached?
[21:03] <Brewster> I know
[21:04] <Brewster> I took out my hard drive in an attempt to recover my home folder but that didn't work
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  sounds like you need a  #bash script to that end
[21:04] <Brewster> I have a hard drive to usb adaptor
[21:04] <millennia> Brewster | I can't find anyone who solved it short of a complete reinstall
[21:04] <Brewster> but anyway I put my drive back in and now my whole computer doesn't work
[21:04] <jrib> BrianV_: you said you used crontab -e?
[21:05] <BrianV_> jrib: yes
[21:05] <Brewster> so I will be back later when I disassemble and reassemble my computer
[21:05] <Eagleman> MonkeyDust, they send me right back to ubuntu
[21:05] <Brewster> but millennia: thanks for your help :)
[21:05] <jrib> Brewster: this file does not have the proper format for a user's crontab.  It looks more like /etc/crontab
[21:05] <Brewster> um
[21:05] <Brewster> what
[21:05] <jrib> Brewster: sorry.
[21:05] <Brewster> I'll just go
[21:06] <jrib> BrianV_: this file does not have the proper format for a user's crontab.  It looks more like /etc/crontab
[21:06] <chris_> I've installed ubuntu on a laptop and it is not detecting the wireless card.  When the Live CD booted up first the additional hardware box came up and said that it detected a wireless device whose drivers needed activating, but now it's not coming up.   What steps do I have to take to get the drivers working on this installed ubuntu?
[21:06] <mvk> [ 2400.445633] CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 317)
[21:06] <BrianV_> jrib: but it should work right? or am I wrong?
[21:06] <jrib> BrianV_: no, it won't work.
[21:06] <mvk> on my macbook air, with 12.10  -  <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[21:07] <jrib> BrianV_: get rid of the user column
[21:07] <mvk> why does this happen!?
[21:07] <chrisc__> How do I mount an nfs directory to a directory /logs if there are active processes writing data to the directory? Would I need to init to a different level or maybe kill the processes, rename the folder to save current data, then mount the nfs to /logs, then restart? Would this work?
[21:07] <millennia> mvk | cpus can get hot without power management
[21:08] <BrianV_> jrib: so I have to remove the username "nobody" from the line?
[21:08] <jrib> BrianV_: sure
[21:08] <mvk> millennia, its a macbook, i expect there is power management
[21:08] <JuJuBee> I need to boot a computer from usb stick and copy the contents of HD to a server.  How do I do that and retain ownership and permissions?  rsync -azvv set ownership to the remote user account...
[21:08] <mvk> on this intel I5 system
[21:09] <millennia> mvk | I don't know about macbooks, but pc power management is at least partly controlled by the OS
[21:09] <mvk> millennia, should be the same with macbook
[21:09] <chris_> Hello. I've installed ubuntu on a laptop and it is not detecting the wireless card.  When the Live CD booted up first the additional hardware box came up and said that it detected a wireless device whose drivers needed activating, but now it's not coming up.   What steps do I have to take to get the drivers working on this installed ubuntu?
[21:09] <OerHeks> mvk maybe you need fancontrol > https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal from this mactel ppa
[21:10] <ThinkT510> chris_: lspci
[21:10] <millennia> chris_ | what kindof wireless is it? builtin or usb?
[21:10] <bekks> JuJuBee: Use "--numeric-ids" with rsync.
[21:10] <ThinkT510> chris_: i'm guessing its going to be a broadcom
[21:10] <chris_> ThinkT510: built in
[21:10] <BrianV_> jrib: I added * * * * * echo "Cron Worked $(date)" >> /tmp/cronworked.txt to the cron. Let's see if it works.
[21:10] <chris_> ThinkT510: yes broadcom was displayed in the addtional drivers on the livecd
[21:11] <ThinkT510> !b43 | chris_
[21:11] <chris_> ThinkT510: thanks
[21:11] <mvk> OerHeks, good point, i havent heard the fan yet!
[21:11] <cortexman> when i install open-vm-tools in a virtual machine it says "not starting as we're not running in a vm"
[21:12] <cortexman> (this is quantal)
[21:12] <chris_> ThinkT510: it's a BCM4312
[21:13] <millennia> chris_ | your only option then is to install "ndis-wrapper" and use the windows driver
[21:13] <JuJuBee> bekks: that's fine, but when using cli from live usb, the user is ubuntu (id 999) but the HD is mostly owned by root (id 0)...  Trying to make a template for ltsp client
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> cortexman: Probably a vmware issue, make sure you have the latest/matching version for the host.
[21:13] <BrianV_> jrib: nothing happens.. cronworked.txt is still empty (read 0 lines)
[21:13] <bekks> JuJuBee: Then use sudo
[21:14] <jrib> BrianV_: the file  got created ?
[21:15] <BrianV_> manually yes.. i did a touch cronworked.txt in the /tmp dir.
[21:15] <Styler2go> Hello Guys, how can i pack multiple dirs into one tar?
[21:15] <BrianV_> jrib: manually yes.. i did a touch cronworked.txt in the /tmp dir.
[21:15] <jrib> BrianV_: what user are you doing this as?
[21:15] <BrianV_> jrib: currently as root
[21:16] <jrib> BrianV_: output of « crontab -l »?
[21:16] <theadmin> Styler2go: tar cf something.tar d1 d2 d3
[21:16] <chris_> millennia: what about the b43 open source driver?
[21:16] <theadmin> Styler2go: For compression, use either "tar czf something.tar.gz d1 d2 d3" or "tar cjf something.tar.bz2 d1 d2 d3"
[21:16] <Styler2go> is this the best way to make a comlete backup? tar the dirs etc, home and var?
[21:16] <jrib> !backup | Styler2go
[21:17] <JuJuBee> bekks: sudo rsync -azvv / remoteuser@remote.ip:/path/to/destination ??
[21:17] <bekks> JuJuBee: sudo rsync -azvv --numeric-ids ...
[21:17] <millennia> chris_ | try it
[21:17] <JuJuBee> Ah, ok
[21:18] <chris_> millennia: which is easiest to install and get running?
[21:18] <BrianV_> jrib: the output is my crontab file.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583666/plain/
[21:18] <Styler2go> tar cf backup.tar /etc /var /home  error:   tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[21:18] <theadmin> Styler2go: That's acceptable.
[21:18] <Styler2go> oh
[21:19] <Styler2go> so.. it worked? :D
[21:19] <jrib> BrianV_: ps -ef | grep cron
[21:19] <Wug> ThinkT510: in case you were curious, its because the CA is signed with md5, which provokes the error 8016 response (SEC_ERROR_CERT_SIGNATURE_ALGORITHM_DISABLED) for which support is apparently buggy
[21:19] <theadmin> Styler2go: Well, if it's finished and you're back to the prompt, then yes. But the problem is it will never finish if you're doing this on the same system you're  currently working on.
[21:19] <Styler2go> aaah i got it...
[21:19] <theadmin> Styler2go: Because the directories will keep changing, it wil keep updating them, etc
[21:19] <Wug> because of buggy support it gets propagated as unknown error
[21:19] <BrianV_> jrib: root     26219 27101  0  2012 pts/8    00:00:00 grep --color=auto cron (with cron in red)
[21:19] <ThinkT510> Wug: glad you figured it out
[21:20] <Wug> I need to go yell at the cs department apparently
[21:20] <jrib> BrianV_: so cron isn't running....  How did you install ubuntu?
[21:20] <JuJuBee> bekks: same thing happens
[21:20] <millennia> chris_ | that's a good question. They both aren't effortless. But the open source b43 drivers don't work for a lot of cards, so you might end up using ndiswrapper anyways
[21:20] <chris_> millennia: ok you've made my mind up.
[21:20] <bizhanMona> HI I have observed a strange behavior, when I install ubuntu on any of my system later on if I want to install RHEL/Fedora after successful installation I get grub failure, and system stops at grub rescue prompt,not sure why? Thx
[21:20] <Styler2go> so my command will never end?
[21:21] <BrianV_> jrib: I did not installed ubuntu myself. My friend installed it for me.
[21:21] <jrib> BrianV_: apt-cache  policy cron
[21:22] <BrianV_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583677/
[21:23] <jrib> BrianV_: sudo service cron status
[21:24] <BrianV_> jrib: cron stop/waiting
[21:24] <jrib> BrianV_: sudo service cron start
[21:25] <BrianV_> jrib: cron start/running (I tried this before tho.. Let's see if it will work)
[21:25] <jrib> BrianV_: ps -ef | grep cron
[21:25] <BrianV_> jrib: still same message, root     18002 27101  0  2012 pts/8    00:00:00 grep --color=auto cron (with cron in red)
[21:25] <jrib> BrianV_: so cron didn't start...
[21:26] <BrianV_> jrib: service cron status
[21:26] <BrianV_> cron start/running
[21:26] <jrib> BrianV_: you're sure the only line of output for ps -ef | grep cron was the one you pasted?
[21:27] <BrianV_> jrib: yes 100% sure
[21:27] <jrib> BrianV_: what happens when you run cron directly with « sudo cron »?
[21:27] <shadow98> if i use file connect to server and connect to web dav server..how do i access that via  command line
[21:27] <shadow98> how do i find out what the mount path is
[21:28] <BrianV_> jrib: cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 26055: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:28] <jrib> BrianV_: cat /var/run/crond.pid
[21:28] <MrSassyPants> in ubuntu, what's the way to remove/add stuff from /etc/init.d/ to the individual runlevels ?
[21:29] <BrianV_> jrib: but it does put a new line in cronworked.txt!
[21:29] <BrianV_> jrib: your command's output is: 26055
[21:29] <jrib> MrSassyPants: sysv-rc-conf  but a lot of services won't be in /etc/init.d nowadays as they've been converted to upstart scripts (see upstart cookbook about manual overrides)
[21:30] <jrib> BrianV_: ps -ef | grep 26055     shows cron now?
[21:31] <BrianV_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583703/
[21:31] <drhead> Hi, my OS is not showing anything past grub except weird graphical artifacts.  I managed to get it to boot to a command line by editing the grub commands, but I need a GUI and xorg.conf has been deprecated since I last used Linux and I don't know how to force VESA drivers to load.  Could someone tell me the quick way to do that?
[21:31] <paoloumali> is it by design that i cannot edit etc files over sftp? even with default cloud user?
[21:31] <jrib> BrianV_: well cron is running now for whatever reason.  I would reboot and see if cron is coming up when you boot
[21:32] <BrianV_> jrib: i will reboot. hold on.
[21:32] <shadow98> if i use file connect to server and connect to web dav server..how do i access that via  command line
[21:33] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | drhead
[21:33] <ThinkT510> drhead: also, if you make a xorg.conf it will be obeyed
[21:33] <Adie__> WOOOOOOOOOOOO INCEST
[21:34] <kunji> paoloumali: cloud user?  You mean you're using an Ubuntu machine up in someone else's cloud?  Then maybe, it all depends on what they allowed users to do in their ssh configuration... also in /etc/  So it is possible by design, but I don't know if they've chosen to restrict that or not.
[21:34] <paoloumali> kunji, im testing out azure
[21:35] <BrianV_> jrib: I have rebooted
[21:35] <jrib> BrianV_: ps -ef | grep -i cron    returns?
[21:35] <User23> does any one know how to fix amd proprietary drivers for ubuntu 12.10, all i can see is just the background i can bring up terminal.
[21:35] <paoloumali> I'm just wondering, im using sftp, and still can't edit etc apache2 files. is this linux by design that admins should do it with sudo?
[21:35] <BrianV_> jrib: root     27320 18557  0  2012 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i cron
[21:36] <jrib> BrianV_: cat /var/run/crond.pid
[21:36] <drhead> so after I use nomodeset, it'll default to vesa and from there I can either actually update ubuntu for the first time in years or maybe even install proprietary nvidia drivers?
[21:36] <BrianV_> jrib: returns: 26055
[21:36] <shadow98> if i use file connect to server and connect to web dav server..how do i access that via  command line
[21:36] <kunji> paoloumali:Oh, yeah, I thought you were trying with sudo and it wasn't working for you (that can be configured to restrict access particularly over ssh).
[21:36] <jrib> BrianV_: presumably that's just the old one?  But check: ps -ef | grep 26055
[21:36] <ThinkT510> drhead: years? what version of ubuntu do you have?
[21:37] <BrianV_> jrib: root     31600 18557  0  2012 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto 26055
[21:37] <User23> does any one know how to fix amd proprietary drivers for ubuntu 12.10, all i can see is just the background i can bring up terminal. Thanks!
[21:37] <ThinkT510> drhead: nomodeset just disables kernel mode setting, some drivers can act funny with it on
[21:37] <paoloumali> kunji, i have no issue with sudo and working with vi too. just need confirmation as i just realized right now, this is really how linux is. to secure server, most will deactivate password and just use ssh keys?
[21:38] <User23> can any one point me to a fix? please :D
[21:38] <jrib> BrianV_: « cat /etc/init/cron.conf* »    output on pastebin
[21:38] <drhead> ThinkT510: 11.10 on this one, but its just a copy I installed while troubleshooting some problems on this pc.  I haven't actively used Linux for about four years.
[21:39] <kunji> paoloumali: That is used in the case where you need to automate tasks between servers, but you should use a password in conjunction with keys for the best security.
[21:39] <jrib> BrianV_: do you have any other services not starting?
[21:39] <paoloumali> also, since will use this to host mainly a site, is it proper to create a user, and then use his home directory as location for the web files instead of the var/www?
[21:39] <BrianV_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583722/
[21:39] <jrib> BrianV_: why is it all commented?
[21:39] <paoloumali> kunji, I will use them both then. but what happens if i lost my key, there will be no way anymore to access my server right?
[21:40] <BrianV_> jrib: yes after a reboot I have to start apache2 and mysql manually
[21:40] <ikonia> BrianV_: how about telling us what you've really done
[21:40] <ikonia> your config file is all commented out
[21:40] <ikonia> that doesn't happen on it's own
[21:40] <BrianV_> jrib: I don't know, I have not installed my server.
[21:40] <paoloumali> kunji, i'm on another thread and someone commented about using sftp. is there any security issue with sftp?
[21:40] <jrib> BrianV_: you should discuss these things with the person that installed it... cron isn't starting because its init file is all comments
[21:41] <BrianV_> jrib: ok, but is there a way we can fix this now? or do I have to ask my friend who installed my server?
[21:41] <User23> amd driver fix one ubuntu 12.10? anyone
[21:42] <jrib> BrianV_: you can remove one column of comments from the file
[21:42] <ikonia> User23: problem description, worthless...anyone
[21:42] <kunji> paoloumali: Hmm, not really, come to think of it, that might be a home directory already (for the user apache runs as), but I'm not sure as I don't have apache installed on this machine at the moment.  I wouldn't do it though.  If you lose the key you will not have remote access to the server, someone with physical access could restore access to you, so it would probably involve talking to azure tech support, but you could get access back.
[21:42] <BrianV_> jrib: which column should I remove?
[21:42] <jrib> BrianV_: the first one
[21:43] <jrib> BrianV_: just the '#' but if there are two '##' then just make it '#'
[21:43] <ikonia> I'd find out why it's disabled before re-enabling it
[21:43] <paoloumali> kunji, awesome! I think I need to read a book on ubuntu web hosting security. do you have any recommendation?
[21:44] <BrianV_> jrib: something like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583736/
[21:44] <jrib> BrianV_: yes, but pay mind to ikonia's advice
[21:45] <kunji> paoloumali: I don't have any books for it, I usually just google extensively.  This is a pretty good site though: http://www.cyberciti.biz/  Also Ubuntu has some very good documentation for server, both official and community.
[21:45] <shadow98> if i use file connect to server and connect to web dav server..how do i access that via  command line
[21:46] <alessandro_> hi
[21:46] <paoloumali> kunji, thanks. I need to master this hosting stuff as I will offer a web builder service
[21:46] <BrianV_> jrib: well if I may guess, my friend did not pay attention to cronjob. But if it ain't comment out by default, I will ask him first.
[21:47] <CyberGlitch> Anyone have luck with getting serial console working with a preseed file on 12.10?
[21:47] <ikonia> BrianV_: pay attention to crontab ??? he clearly did as he's taken the time to learn how to disable it cleanly
[21:47] <ikonia> BrianV_: it looks like it's you who's not paid attention by trying incorrect synatax in your crontab file
[21:48] <CyberGlitch> I can get it to work after the fact but I am unsure how to do it with an answer file
[21:48] <BrianV_> jrib: I will ask him first, before enable it again.
[21:48] <jrib> BrianV_: ok
[21:48] <BrianV_> ikonia: I am no ubuntu guru, I just did what my friend told me to do to activate a cronjob.
[21:51] <BrianV_> jrib: thanks for your time. I will hook up with my friend for further assistance :)
[21:51] <alexwaters> why does nothing happen when i do this: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst <IP_ADDRESS> -p tcp --dport 3434 -j DNAT --to-destination 2<IP_ADDRESS>:22
[21:54] <mario__> hello
[21:54] <mario__> I have a problem with ubuntu 12.10, I think it does not recognize well the i3 processor .... I have a partition with windows 7 and ubuntu .... windows 7 is a splinter while ubuntu is slow ... takes 2 to 3 seconds and then opens the programs .... goes like a pentium 4 ....
[21:57] <skinofstars> hi all. quick question, how do i launch programs with unity? like ones which i know are in bin but don't have a .desktop file
[21:58] <jhutchins_wk> mario__: Given the commonality of the i3, I doubt your problem is processor related.
[21:59] <theadmin> skinofstars: alt+f2, type binary name
[21:59] <jhutchins_wk> mario__: Have you checked the I/O usage?  RAM saturation?  Swap?  System loaad?
[21:59] <skinofstars> theadmin: alt+f2! brilliant! thanks!!
[22:00] <mario__> jhutchins_wk no ...how do you?
[22:01] <newwen> screw up
[22:01] <newwen> sorry
[22:01] <mario__> Intel® Core™ i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4
[22:01] <jhutchins_wk> mario__: start with top to see what processes might be hogging CPU, how much ram the system sees, and whether the amount of swap used is changing.
[22:02] <newwen> skinofstars, keep the start (win) button pressed for a cheatsheet of shorcuts
[22:05] <mario__> lshw
[22:05] <mario__>      *-cpu
[22:05] <mario__>           description: CPU
[22:05] <mario__>           product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz
[22:05] <mario__>           vendor: Intel Corp.
[22:05] <mario__>           physical id: 1f
[22:05] <FloodBot1> mario__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:06] <theadmin> mario__: We get that you have a Core i3, why don't you do what people tell you to do instead?
[22:06] <mario__> 800Mhz because ?
[22:07] <mario__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583794/
[22:07] <mario__> because 800 mhz ?
[22:10] <technologic> help
[22:10] <theadmin> mario__: That's current frequency.
[22:10] <theadmin> mario__: It's normal for the processor not to be working on full speed when it's unnecessary.
[22:10] <toshiba> ola
[22:11] <theadmin> Now "size" is definetly one weird name for that
[22:11] <toshiba> sou novo no ubuntu
[22:11] <jetter> yo guys, have little linux problem anyone can help?
[22:11] <theadmin> jetter: Just ask the question
[22:11] <technologic> help me
[22:11] <angs> how can I see the list of device ID for wlan0, wlan1, etc. interfaces?
[22:12] <jetter> Concept: i want to build web server env. linux + lighttpd + mysql + v8 javascript enginge on fastcgi
[22:12] <theadmin> jetter: Okay... Sounds fine to me, I suppose
[22:13] <jetter> its a longer question, i prefer priv, any linux master minds? ;)
[22:13] <mario__> theadmin thanks
[22:13] <theadmin> jetter: According to the channel rules, you should ask the question directly in the channel, so that everyone can help.
[22:13] <jetter> theadmin: got a minute?
[22:13] <jetter> ok i see
[22:14] <theadmin> jetter: I have time but I'm sleepy and doubt I can help sanely right now :D
[22:14] <theadmin> Is rox still in the repos? Can't find it...
[22:15] <gregeng> \exit
[22:17] <jetter> So i want ssjs and i want v8 to do it. V8 has open source and ready examples of standalone version. But it has no libraries like mysql, cache, etc. So i was wondering if I can use batch scripts that could be executed by this standalone v8. Is it possible and worth my time? :)
[22:18] <jetter> sorry for my english
[22:18] <histo> jetter: What is your native language?
[22:19] <makerbreakr> hi, I have a geforce 9500 GT, with nvidia drivers installed
[22:19] <jetter> histo: polish
[22:19] <makerbreakr> xrandr -q says, I cant not get above 1360x768
[22:19] <histo> !pl | jetter
[22:19] <makerbreakr> what am i missing?
[22:19] <histo> makerbreakr: does your monitor support higher resolutions?
[22:20] <makerbreakr> yes, its a TV
[22:20] <makerbreakr> that does 1920x1080
[22:20] <belgianguy> hm, ssh-copy-id is throwing an error on my server after I succesfully uploaded my public key
[22:20] <histo> makerbreakr: Why do you think it does 1920x1080?
[22:20] <makerbreakr> the documentation
[22:20] <belgianguy> I get the ERROR: No identities found, and also don't seem to have an .ssh folder in my home dir
[22:20] <histo> makerbreakr: how are you connected to the tv?
[22:20] <makerbreakr> its a brand new samsung
[22:20] <belgianguy> but I do have an OpenSSH server running, as I'm connected to it atm
[22:20] <makerbreakr> DVI
[22:21] <tbruff13> can someone help me please
[22:21] <makerbreakr> DVI to VGA
[22:21] <tbruff13> I cannot get libreoffice base to open ms access files or even save in them
[22:21] <makerbreakr> rather
[22:21] <tbruff13> why
[22:21] <tbruff13> it does not even do the 2003 ones
[22:21] <histo> makerbreakr: hrm... You can try specifying modes in your xorg.conf or using nvidia settings app
[22:21] <makerbreakr> libreoffice doesnt suppor access does it?
[22:21] <makerbreakr> histo, I have tried that
[22:22] <makerbreakr> cvt 1920 1080, got the mode line etc
[22:22] <tbruff13> makerbreakr, it is called libreoffice base
[22:22] <makerbreakr> it doesnt want to go above it
[22:22] <tbruff13> and it is supposed to
[22:22] <makerbreakr> ah, nice, I will have to look at it
[22:22] <escott> !enter | tbruff13
[22:23] <escott> belgianguy, anything preventing you from making the ~/.ssh directory
[22:23] <jetter> I am using english.. I think i do. ;) So any keyboard masters? My concept: ssjs v8 on fastcgi with lighttpd.
[22:23] <k1l> tbruff13: access files ar only supported under windows iirc
[22:23] <belgianguy> escott: no, but I wasn't sure whether that would be autocreated by a package
[22:23] <belgianguy> or whether one can just add that folder
[22:24] <escott> belgianguy, nothing in $HOME is auto created unless it is part of /etc/skel
[22:24] <belgianguy> escott: now I created the .ssh dir, but when I execute my ssh-copy-id, it still fails with that error
[22:24] <ross`> how long can a gpart recovery take on a 750gb drive with 7 total partitions, lvm inside extended fourth partition
[22:25] <ross`> not 7 real partitions, not lvm virtuals
[22:25] <escott> belgianguy, is it complaining that you dont have an id_rsa on the computer you are running ssh-copy-id from
[22:25] <ross`> *note* 7 real partitions, not lvm virtuals9~
[22:25] <belgianguy> escott: oh, am I not supposed to run it from the remote machine? I ssh'ed into it after using scp to upload my public key
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> ross`  sounds too specific, best way would be to try and find out
[22:26] <ross`> MonkeyDust: i am trying, i want to know when i can consider this dead
[22:26] <ross`> i.e. 3 hours vs waiting 13 hours
[22:26] <ozzloy> byobu stopped showing the status line for me.  how do i get it back?
[22:26] <ross`> i want to know when it isn't gonna work by
[22:26] <belgianguy> escott: I could generate another keypair on the remote machine
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> ozzloy  F9
[22:26] <ozzloy> i want a list of windows, the current window hilited, that sort of thing. just like before
[22:27] <escott> belgianguy, all it does is scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa user@remote:~/tempfile; followed by cat ~/tempfile ~/.ssh/auth_keys on the remote server
[22:27] <escott> ross`, what is "recovery"
[22:27] <ross`> escott: it is refinding partition bounds
[22:27] <ross`> because somehow it got off by like 8kb
[22:27] <robertzaccour> Anyone else aware of a Kdenlive bug? I thought it may be my system but the bug still there on live iso boot. Whenever I click render it crashes.
[22:27] <ross`> but idk how to do it manually so
[22:28] <ross`> i'm using gpart to auto do it
[22:28] <robertzaccour> so its definitely Ubuntu specific bug.
[22:28] <robertzaccour> But the question is, could it be distro specific?
[22:28] <robertzaccour> I mean distro version.
[22:28] <belgianguy> escott: isn't that the private key? the tutorial I'm following uploads the public key (.pub)
[22:28] <ozzloy> MonkeyDust, i'm gonna need a bit more help than that
[22:28] <escott> ross`, should take only as long as it would to read the entire disk
[22:28] <escott> belgianguy, yeah the pub
[22:29] <ozzloy> MonkeyDust, i don't see a setting there for toggling the status line entirely
[22:29] <belgianguy> escott: I did that, but now I don't get what your cat statement does
[22:29] <ross`> escott: is there a reading harddrive calculator with given harddrive speed, cpu, ram, options?
[22:29] <belgianguy> that file doesn't exist yet here
[22:29] <escott> belgianguy, all it does is scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@remote:~/tempfile; followed by cat ~/tempfile > ~/.ssh/auth_keys on the remote server
[22:30] <escott> belgianguy, sorry im reading other things and only half paying attention.
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: 1) create keypair on local machine. 2) copy public key to remote machine and append to authorized_keys file.  (This can be done by ssh-copy-id.)
[22:30] <belgianguy> escott, jhutchins_wk: It's the ssh-copy-id that refuses to work
[22:30] <ross`> belgianguy: i'm bored, please tell me what you are trying to do and i will write a shell script to do it
[22:30] <belgianguy> the other steps worked
[22:30] <escott> belgianguy, im just not clear on what machine you are seeing the error message
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> escott: does ssh-copy-id create the remote directory?
[22:30] <belgianguy> escott: on the remote machine
[22:30] <belgianguy> I ssh'ed into it
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: That would appear to be because you skipped step 1.
[22:30] <ross`> belgianguy: just use scp and cat >>
[22:31] <escott> belgianguy, you dont run ssh-copy-id on the remote machine
[22:31] <atlef> !grub
[22:31] <belgianguy> jhutchins_wk: I did generate a keypair with a password
[22:31] <escott> belgianguy, it copies the local key to the remote machine and is run on the local machine
[22:31] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: You also don't run ssh-keygen on the remote machine.
[22:31] <belgianguy> jhutchins_wk: I ran ssh-keygen on my local machine
[22:31] <escott> unless you are flipping the meaning of local and remote on us
[22:31] <belgianguy> and uploaded the .pub through scp
[22:31] <belgianguy> I'm not
[22:31] <escott> belgianguy, then you dont need copy-id
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: Now run ssh-copy-id on the local machine with the remote user@machine as the target.
[22:32] <ross`> belgianguy: did you cat >> into known_hosts?
[22:32] <ross`> er
[22:32] <ross`> authorized_hosts2 i think
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> ross`: authorized_keys
[22:32] <ross`> yea
[22:32] <ross`> thats it
[22:32] <ross`> i'm going from memory
[22:32] <escott> belgianguy, if you already copied the pub file you can cat your.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and change the permissions
[22:32] <FloodBot1> ross`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <ross`> belgianguy: listen to escott , that is what i suggest
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> escott: Shouldn't realy need to change permissions...
[22:32] <ross`> don't use the fancy tools, keep is simple, this way you understand what it is doing and why.
[22:33] <escott> jhutchins_wk, no they have to be locked down from the default
[22:33] <ross`> RSA will error if your permissions are public
[22:33] <ross`> i believe
[22:34] <jhutchins_wk> ross`: I guess it depends on the mask.
[22:35] <BlackyShape> ciao
[22:37] <paoloumali> l /etc/profile runs when user has logged in? so changing umask is by appending it to that file?
[22:37] <escott> paoloumali, that would be a global change
[22:37] <jhutchins_wk> Are there any other programs to "burn" bootable USB sticks on Windows besides unetbootin?
[22:38] <bencc> is it possible to use libvirt-sandbox on ubuntu? I couldn't find a deb package, only rpm
[22:42] <tsinnema> has anyone had success in getting sound in java (sun jre) working via padsp?
[22:42] <belgianguy> great, seems you need to chmod .ssh to 700
[22:42] <belgianguy> locked myself out of my server
[22:42] <belgianguy> yay
[22:42] <robertzaccour> I have a Kdenlive issue here, thinking maybe someone here might be able to help.
[22:42] <robertzaccour> Every time I click render, it crashes. I tried it in a live iso session, crashes. From what I can tell its an Ubuntu issue, but could it possibly be a distro version issue? Perhaps if I tried it in the current LTS it might not happen?
[22:42] <chris_> So I tried linux (ubuntu) for the first time in ages and it doesn't work with my broadcom wireless device and I've spent loads of time trying to get it going with no luck.  I give up.
[22:43] <atlef> !b43
[22:43] <iggy_> Hello all :)
[22:43] <belgianguy> I was following a YouTube tutorial, but the clown presenting it didn't care to warn that he forgot chmod as well
[22:44] <chris_> atlef: yes ive followed those horrible instructions with no luck
[22:44] <iggy_> I have a problem installing RatPoison, it's not listed in the available WM in logging screen, where can I find the configuration file to edit ?
[22:44] <atlef> chris_, ok, sorry
[22:44] <belgianguy> he casually mentions that you have to do that, or you'll lock yourself out
[22:44] <belgianguy> after he saves and logs out
[22:44] <escott> belgianguy, so log back in and change the permissions
[22:45] <chris_> atlef: don't be, thanks for trying
[22:45] <belgianguy> escott: I edited sshd_config per the tutorial, allowing only key match login
[22:45] <belgianguy> eg no password
[22:46] <chris_> There should be a single script that gets wireless devices working.  It wouldn't've thought it be that hard.
[22:46] <escott> belgianguy, well that was silly
[22:46] <atlef> chris_, what exactly went wrong?
[22:46] <belgianguy> escott: I find the tutorial silly for not mentioning it
[22:46] <belgianguy> escott: the good news is that this is my test setup
[22:46] <belgianguy> and that the server is upstairs
[22:46] <belgianguy> so I can "intervene" here
[22:47] <escott> belgianguy, you should always leave an active connection while you verify that the login method works
[22:47] <belgianguy> escott: good to know, just in another terminal?
[22:48] <escott> belgianguy, its like leaving someone inside the house while you check that the lock works
[22:49] <escott> belgianguy, do it for anything that has the potential to lock you out (like never mess with /etc/sudoers without first opening a sudo -i terminal to keep open)
[22:49] <escott> belgianguy, don't fiddle with your group membership unless you have a sudo -i terminal open. just keep your foot in the door while you play with the lock
[22:50] <malkauns> why do keyboard shortcuts not work at all in 12.10?
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: What DE?
[22:51] <malkauns> Unity
[22:51] <chris_> atlef: well I first started to install the ndis-wrapper following the instructions, but then at the end I find out that my specific broadcom isn't on the ndiswrapper list of supported devices, so that was a waste of time.    Then I followed these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access but when I restarted my machine, nothing was detected and there was nothing in the additional driv
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: They should work. I'm running a fresh install. Did you accidentally change them in System Settings?
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: The installer does it's best to get wifi working.  THat's the "single script".  For outlying cards that don't work properly without special steps there isn't one consistent method that gets all of them working.
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Some brains required.
[22:52] <malkauns> katsumeblisk, nope, i too am running on a fresh install, i changed the window close shortkey to ctrl +` but it doesn't work
[22:53] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: You didn't say that. I thought you were referring to the Unity shorcuts.
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Broadcom isn't very linux friendly.  Because they're so common, developers have done a pretty good job of reverse-engineering them and have gotten many working - but Broadcom keeps breaking them.
[22:53] <belgianguy> escott: smart that, learned something important
[22:53] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: I just tried that and it works. You sure it was set?
[22:53] <malkauns> katsumeblisk, no, i meant keyboard shortcuts from the config that pops up when u search for "keyboard" in the unity launcher
[22:53] <chris_> jhutchins_wk: If you want to pretend that knowledge of something so esoteric as getting broadband drivers working constitutes "brains" then that's fine
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Also, Broadcom licenses their designs to other manufacturers who often implement them badly.
[22:54] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: I set the close window shortcut to Ctrl + ` and it worked.
[22:54] <malkauns> katsumeblisk, mm weird!! :(
[22:54] <malkauns> katsumeblisk, doesn't work at all for me
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: could you do an lspci -nn and get me the eight character PCI ID of the card?
[22:54] <sect0r> is there away to just restart x?
[22:54] <malkauns> any idea why anyone??
[22:54] <sect0r> join #metasploit
[22:54] <belgianguy> argh, changed the permissions to 700 but it still won't let me connect to the remote machine
[22:55] <belgianguy> Agent admitted failure to sign using the key
[22:55] <belgianguy> Permission denied (publickey)
[22:55] <chris_> jhutchins_wk: 14e4:4315
[22:56] <escott> belgianguy, you must be the only person to be able to modify files and folders from auth_keys up to the first root owned directory
[22:56] <escott> belgianguy, so that includes auth_keys file, .ssh and ~
[22:57] <belgianguy> escott: not sure here, do I need to execute additional chmod commands? :/
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Hm.  Should work with the ssb or wl modules.
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Should not require ndiswrapper or dkms or even firmware.
[22:58] <belgianguy> my file is called authorized_keys instead of auth_keys, does that matter?
[22:59] <escott> belgianguy, chmod g-w,o-w ~ ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/*
[22:59] <escott> belgianguy, its the long form of the name i just dont like typing that many characters
[22:59] <chris_> jhutchins_wk: it's strange how in Live CD mode the Additional Drivers dialogue appeared and knew about the broadcom, but now there is no sign of it.
[23:00] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: It's confirmed to work with Debian Stable, 2.6.26
[23:00] <belgianguy> escott: thanks, going to try that now :)
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: That is the correct name for the file.  Must be as expected by ssh/sshd.
[23:01] <chris_> jhutchins_wk: Debian 6?
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Yes, you would expect it to just work.
[23:02] <ClientAlive> When generating ssh shared keys to connect two computers, do you have to do it on both computers for it to work? I had this set up on my old laptop but now need to set it up on this one.
[23:04] <escott> ClientAlive, there are a lot of keys involved in ssh what keys do you mean?
[23:06] <ClientAlive> escott: The way I had it set up before was so all I have to do to connect (in either direction) is type ssh <hostname>  (in the form of the text hostname you see on your command line).
[23:06] <away> ClientAlive, yes, both
[23:06] <away> just use ssh-copy-id on both machines and you should be good to go
[23:06] <escott> ClientAlive, if that is what you want then sure
[23:06] <ClientAlive> so do i have to delete the keys that are on the one computer so I can start fresh?
[23:07] <away> just use ssh-copy-id, it appends the new key(s) to the end of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[23:07] <macswell> System kernel panics ~1-2 seconds after unplugging ac-power (switching to battery). Any ideas on how I may resolve this?
[23:07] <ClientAlive> or just edit some file to have the correct ip address to this computer?
[23:07] <belgianguy> jhutchins_wk: so what was the correct spelling?
[23:08] <escott> ClientAlive, you put the pub key on machines you want to access with a given identity. so A has id_rsa and is equal or higher security than B, C, D so you put the id_rsa.pub from A onto B,C,D to give A access to B,C,D
[23:08] <hierro59> join #ubuntostudio
[23:08] <root> boy23y
[23:08] <tsinnema> what should be my java setup if i want sound from java to work with pulseaudio?
[23:10] <ClientAlive> I see. So it sounds thus to me: Call computer A the computer with the existing keys and call computer B the new computer with no keys. Then simply put the existing files from computer A onto computer  B. Then generate keys on Computer A. Then move the newly created files from Computer A to computer B. Done.
[23:10] <ClientAlive> is that the correct algorithm?
[23:10] <escott> ClientAlive, no A already has keys, why would you generate keys on A if A already has keys
[23:11] <ClientAlive> perhaps I got the letters confused. Good greif to me!
[23:11] <escott> ClientAlive, A has an id_rsa so you can ssh-copy-id user@B to give A access to B
[23:11] <escott> ClientAlive, if you consider A and B to be the same level of security and should be compromised equally
[23:11] <escott> ClientAlive, then ssh-keygen on B, and ssh-copy-id user@A from B
[23:11] <Guest74674> boy23
[23:12] <ClientAlive> they both computers belong to me. I want to allow root access on both and have same level security on both. Just not familiar wtih this process.
[23:12] <ClientAlive> escott: yes, that makes sense. That's what I was trying to describe. thank you.
[23:13]  * washuu_de is away: Away
[23:14] <angel> hola
[23:15] <Tex_Nick> !es | angel
[23:16] <BLZbubba> how well does ubuntu handle booting over iscsi with a NIC BIOS (as opposed to a proper HBA)?
[23:16] <BLZbubba> centos is of course lame compare to ubuntu but they do have a nice iscsi boot option
[23:17] <escott> BLZbubba, it should not matter provided the bootloader supports it. you might check #grub
[23:17] <wingman182> I'm trying to attempt to install 12.10 to a blank machine without access to a thumb drive or a blank RW. I can pull the HDD and install what ever I need to it and then swap. Is it possible?
[23:19] <belgianguy> hmm, still no cigar
[23:19] <belgianguy> perhaps I need to name my keys file authorized_keys2 ?
[23:19] <Bon-chan> good alternative for dreamweaver under ubuntu?
[23:19] <wingman182> I tried doing it once using the windows installer, but the MBR was too screwed up to work in the new system
[23:20] <escott> belgianguy, that shouldn't matter. can you post your auth_keys file to paste.ubuntu.com as well as the output of ls -ld . .ssh; and ls -l .ssh
[23:20] <wingman182> is it possible to write a MBR of a secondary disk and make it think its primary? So that when it gets deployed to a new system, it boots straight from it?
[23:21] <belgianguy> escott: the server upstairs doesn't have a gui, is there a cli option to upload files to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[23:21] <zykotick9> !pastebinit | belgianguy
[23:21] <escott> wingman182, mbr references are local to the disk unless you are cross booting from with /boot on another disk
[23:22] <bsmith093> is quantal out yet of is it still beta?
[23:22] <wingman182> ok I'm assuming then that it didn't actually write anything to the MBR when I installed it, rather it changed the boot of the primary drive. How can I get it to install GRUB to the secondary?
[23:23] <k1l> bsmith093: 12.10 is released. raring 13.04 is in develoopment now
[23:23] <bsmith093> k thx upgradig from presice
[23:23] <belgianguy> escott: will you be around tomorrow? I have to be pretty silent as the rest of the family is asleep here :/
[23:24] <escott> belgianguy, probably not
[23:25] <elfranne> after wake up from sleep the left click is dead any idea how to restart the mouse module ?
[23:26] <belgianguy> escott: okay, thanks for the help, still :)
[23:27] <Furai> I'm now following this guide to get full gnome 3 on my desktop. Is it any good? http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[23:27] <wingman182> maybe if I rephrase things...... I want to install unbuntu to a different system taking advantage of a hotswap drive bay on my windows machine. Install Ubuntu to the drive, and then place it in the new system. Any suggestions?
[23:27] <belgianguy> I guess I'll roll back my changes in the morning and go hunt for a better tutorial, and will initialize communications with the original poster, notifying him of the fact that he has the intellect of a fruit fly
[23:28] <escott> wingman182, it should work fine
[23:28] <wingman182> it does until I put it into the new machine
[23:28] <wingman182> but it doesn't boot
[23:28] <belgianguy> also, my keyboard upstairs is noisy, and doesn't even react if you don't ram the keys
[23:28] <Tex_Nick> wingman182 : have you looked at ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[23:29] <wingman182> thats precisely what I used to install it the first time
[23:29] <wingman182> but switching it to the new system and it will not boot
[23:31] <escott> wingman182, look at the bootinfoscript it should tell you what you need to know
[23:32] <arndale> When I installed ubuntu I chose not to install the 3rd party media additions because I had no net access.  Is there a way to do it now that I have net access?
[23:32] <wingman182> escott ok thanks I'll check that out
[23:33] <Sna4x8> Is there an ubuntu client for OpenVPN Connect?  I use standard OpenVPN all the time, but I can't find a client for OpenVPN connect online or in the repos.
[23:33] <_helios_> Hey can anyone here help me with a Connection timed out issue with SSH,  Everything is configured properly on the server side I think the client side has an early timeout or something.
[23:34] <macswell> System kernel panics ~1-2 seconds after unplugging ac-power (switching to battery). Any ideas on how I may resolve this? [Running Ubuntu 12.04 x64]
[23:35] <dns53> _helios_ it times out after a while? if you are using something like putty you should set an option to send keep alive packets
[23:36] <_helios_> dns53: what is happening is when I ssh user@address it says Connection Timed out,  however when I was where the machine is located everything worked fine.
[23:36] <esph> Which directories would it be adviseable to put under my 24GB mSATA SSD, and which on my HDD?
[23:36] <_helios_> dns53: I don't think the client is giving the server enough time to respond.
[23:37] <esph> (/home will obviously go on the HDD)
[23:37] <chaz68> Anybody running Ajaxplorer here?
[23:38] <chaz68> On Ubuntu 12.04 desktop system...
[23:38] <_helios_> dns53: is there anything I can do with the client side so that it doesn't time out?  Otherwise I have to wait until I get home to change the ssh server config.
[23:38] <escott> esph, depends on what your goals are
[23:38] <daywalker2012> hi
[23:39] <Uber_Geek> ello
[23:39] <esph> escott: basically just to utilize teh faster storage as much as possible
[23:39] <esph> the*
[23:39] <daywalker2012> i`ve got a problem - should is use openjdk 6 or 7?
[23:39] <escott> esph, then limit your total data usage to less than 24GB
[23:40] <daywalker2012> with xubuntu 12.04 - on an old computer :)
[23:41] <dns53> _helios_ timing out connecting probably means that it is not open, have you tried running nmap to confirm that the port you are using for ssh is open?
[23:41] <_helios_> dns53: I think the problem might be that my system went into standby at the house forgot to change the settings.
[23:42] <esph> gotta love the ever-snarky denizens of irc-land
[23:42] <dns53> _helios_ that is highly likely
[23:42] <_helios_> dns53: how would i run nmap on a remote host?
[23:43] <escott> esph, you are going to have to prioritize and to prioritize you need to state meaningful goals
[23:44] <escott> esph, do you want a faster boot? do you have a favorite game you want to open faster? do you want your sql server to be faster?
[23:44] <esph> escott: If you can give me some examples of meaningful goals, that would help. All I basically know is that the SSD is faster, and that putting some things there will improve performance
[23:45] <randypopabawa> Hey all. Anyone else tried loading Ubuntu on a Samsung NP35 series?
[23:45] <daywalker2012> hmm
[23:46] <esph> escott: Ok, well, most programs are in /usr, right? So I'll put that there. What kind of performance gains would I see if i put /etc there, or /var there?
[23:46] <daywalker2012> ok  - thx for help :(
[23:46] <randypopabawa> I've heard mixed reviews about AMD-A6's and Linux is why I ask.
[23:46] <escott> esph, programs may start faster
[23:47] <daywalker2012> i can  `t reach the ww seites in this way
[23:47] <escott> esph, also having /usr on a different disk is not a support configuration
[23:47] <escott> esph, you can have / on a disk or /usr/share/games for instance but not /usr in general
[23:47] <escott> esph, if you "ldd /sbin | grep usr" you will see that there are binaries in sbin that will break without /us
[23:48] <esph> escott: but /ect and /var can be on a different disk?
[23:48] <esph> etc*
[23:48] <escott> esph, /etc has to be on the same disk as / otherwise you cant find /etc/fstab
[23:48] <esph> ok
[23:48] <escott> esph, /var can be on a different disk
[23:48] <esph> just /var
[23:48] <esph> So I'll put / on the SSD, and possibly /var
[23:49] <esph> what goes in /var (besides logs)
[23:49] <escott> esph, /var, /home, /opt are the most common directories to find on other partitions
[23:49] <escott> esph, lots and mail spools and other stuff that changes a lot. i think "var" means "varies"
[23:49] <esph> ok
[23:50] <Tex_Nick> randypopabawa : i'm running 12.10 on an AMD A6-3500 APU ... it's a custom built box though ... no problems here
[23:50] <escott> esph, so putting that on an SSD will make some of those applications faster but will burn out the SSD faster
[23:50] <esph> right
[23:50] <escott> esph, depends on if those are performance sensitive to you or not
[23:50] <esph> opt also has binaries, right?
[23:50] <randypopabawa> Hm.
[23:50] <escott> esph, opt is usually empty
[23:50] <esph> oh
[23:50] <randypopabawa> I want to spec my new laptop as an audio production workstation.
[23:51] <escott> esph, anyways i have to run but figure out what programs you want to be faster first and let that guide your decision
[23:51] <esph> escott: ok, thanks
[23:51] <kaiblocks> I feel like an idiot
[23:51] <kaiblocks> I deleted my apt lock and not sure how to fix that
[23:52] <escott> !aptlock
[23:52] <pcfreak30> can anyone help out
[23:52] <kaiblocks> yeah, that's what happened. But instead of doing that I removed the lock.
[23:53] <_helios_> dns53: I did the nmap and it shows that 22/tcp filtered ssh
[23:53] <danielboston26> i updated ubuntu 12.10 now when i log back in the desktop is a blank screen
[23:53] <pcfreak30> i just got a keyboard replacement
[23:53] <danielboston26> and when i open a program it launches but nothing shows
[23:53] <danielboston26> any idea's?
[23:53] <pcfreak30> and the whole layout is out of wack
[23:54] <pcfreak30> im on acessibility keyboard atm
[23:54] <pcfreak30> us keyboard layout
[23:54] <dns53> _helios_ so you would have your adsl router open and forwarding to a computer that is not on
[23:55] <_helios_> dns53: k thanks man,  I can't believe I forgot to keep it from going idle.
[23:55] <danielboston26> can someone help me?
[23:55] <pcfreak30> any way to reconfigure the keyboard input?
[23:55] <danielboston26> i updated ubuntu 12.10 now when i log back in the desktop is a blank screen
[23:55] <danielboston26> and when i open a program it launches but nothing shows
[23:56] <pcfreak30> its hell totype like this
[23:57] <kaiblocks> what if the ubotto advice doesn't work?
[23:57] <danielboston26> i need help please
[23:57] <earspliT_> clear
[23:58] <kaiblocks> strange
[23:59] <danielboston26> can anyone help me or no?
[23:59] <kaiblocks> When I use the command sudo dpkg --configure -a, I get an error regarding failure to set up qmail. I was messing around and trying to install rn and had some system difficulties in the process.
[23:59] <danielboston26> I'm gonna take that non response as a no