[07:33] <maryen> abeshi: "sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:33] <maryen> "
[07:33] <abehi> I'm stuck, I need to compile my lan drivers, so can't aptget it
[07:33] <abehi> why do distros ship without gcc :(
[07:33] <maryen> don't know
[07:33] <maryen> hmm
[07:34] <maryen> here you go abehi
[07:34] <maryen> http://packages.debian.org/stable/devel/gcc
[07:34] <maryen> it should work with dapper
[07:34] <maryen> and may god have mercy on your soul
[07:34] <abehi> heh heh, thx!
[07:35] <m4x1mum> oooooooh crap it takes 79Mb to install java re
[07:35] <maryen> yep
[07:35] <maryen> its big
[07:35] <m4x1mum> no wonder my installation breaks, i dont have the java-bin
[07:35] <m4x1mum> i only download java-re
[07:36] <maryen> do "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin"
[07:36] <maryen> that should get you all the java you should need
[07:36] <maryen> unless you need dev packages
[07:36] <m4x1mum> nah im not doing any java development
[07:37] <m4x1mum> hmmm amarok dont play mp3 by default?
[07:37] <maryen> nope
[07:37] <maryen> need to install libxine-extracodecs to get it working
[07:37] <m4x1mum> aaah no wonder
[07:38] <m4x1mum> i thought its my directory permission problem
[07:38] <maryen> works like a charm after that though
[07:38] <maryen> lol nah
[07:38] <maryen> no distro can have mp3 by default due to legal issues
[07:39] <m4x1mum> oooh
[07:39] <Momal> why can windows then :S
[07:39] <unix_infidel> does (k)ubuntu have a a listing of companies that currently use and have support contracts with ubuntu?
[07:39] <Momal> I guess they paid money
[07:39] <unix_infidel> eg, for servers.
[07:39] <maryen> because ms paid the royalties to the owner of the mp3 format
[07:39] <m4x1mum> windows cannot play mp3
[07:39] <Momal> lol good one m4x
[07:39] <m4x1mum> you still need the software to play it
[07:40] <maryen> :p
[07:40] <maryen> technicalities
[07:40] <m4x1mum> i never use windows media player though
[07:40] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[07:40] <m4x1mum> i always use winamp for that :)
[07:40] <maryen> i dont know unix_infidel
[07:40] <m4x1mum> too bad i cant remove windows media player completely
[07:40] <Momal> I just use amarok screw windows :p
[07:40] <Momal> nothing beats amarok
[07:41] <maryen> removing wmp can actually gimp your system bad
[07:41] <DaSkreech> Paper beats rock
[07:41] <maryen> but linux beats paper?
[07:41] <m4x1mum> lol
[07:41] <Momal> and paper = me... and scissors = linux
[07:41] <Momal> lol
[07:41] <unix_infidel> maryen: so you compress all the wmp binaries :P so they have all the proper dlls available :)
[07:41] <m4x1mum> no dude, linux beats windows
[07:41] <maryen> shhh
[07:41] <Momal> haha
[07:42] <maryen> thats beyond the normal windows users abilities
[07:42] <Momal> linux > * > windows
[07:42] <maryen> linux>unix>OpenBSD>windows
[07:42] <m4x1mum> you left out mac
[07:42] <m4x1mum> :)
[07:43] <maryen> not terribly sure where to put it
[07:43] <maryen> linux>macOSX>...
[07:43] <m4x1mum> the system with one button mouse, they think the user will get confused if there is more than one button on the mouse
[07:44] <maryen> personally, im suprised how slow macs run
[07:44] <Momal> linux > mac > * > dos > win 3.1 > win98 > windows*
[07:44] <m4x1mum> lol
[07:45] <maryen> linux > mac > * > dos > win 3.1 > win98 > windows 95>rock>windows ME
[07:45] <m4x1mum> the list will just get longer
[07:45] <maryen> yes lets stop this
[07:45] <poseidon> don't make it too long, it'll crash my computer!
[07:45] <maryen> lol
[07:45] <maryen> ubuntu>SuSE
[07:46] <Momal> ahahah poseidon must be using windows lol!!
[07:46] <maryen> just on the fact that ubuntu didn't release with a seriously broken package manager
[07:46] <m4x1mum> 16bit windows?
[07:46] <himawan> Joined the room
[07:46] <maryen> *shudders* i remember when my windows 95 would get corrupted and i would have to reinstall it
[07:46] <Momal> anyone use video screen capture pograms underlinux ?
[07:47] <maryen> mythtv is supposed to be good for that
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Wait till Ubuntu starts to use smart :)
[07:47] <maryen> but no
[07:47] <DaSkreech>  /j #kubuntu-devel
[07:47] <maryen> ugh..
[07:47] <maryen> im fine with apt right now thanks
[07:48] <Momal> maryen: ... I mean like I set up what I want it to record and it records my screen like my mouse moving and that
[07:48] <maryen> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:48] <maryen> mmmmmmmm
[07:48] <maryen> no idea
[07:48] <maryen> hi himawan
[07:49] <Momal> I tried xvidcap but it just crashes everynow and again and the vnc+vnc2swf... well vncserver wont even start >_<
[07:50] <poseidon> that's a shame..... vnc+school == lots of fun on :5801
[07:50] <maryen> :( my school even blocks the ports needed to get on this channel poseidon
[07:51] <Momal> set up a proxy maryen :D
[07:51] <poseidon> You could probably change the port.... to like 80
[07:51] <maryen> cant
[07:51] <maryen> irc server wont accept a connection from port 80
[07:51] <maryen> momal:  no thanks
[07:51] <poseidon> oh, sorry, I thought you meant vnc. X_X
[07:52] <himawan> hi ...
[07:52] <maryen> hi
[07:52] <maryen> whats up?
[07:52] <Momal> if you set up a proxy on your computer then connected through it via school then connected to irc server/chan :should work.
[07:53] <maryen> i don't have a dedicated server tho
[07:53] <maryen> i should get one from goodwill
[07:53] <m4x1mum> damn i forgot again, where is the packages stored by adept?
[07:53] <maryen> stored?
[07:53] <maryen> you mean your sources list?
[07:54] <m4x1mum> yeah, after the package is downloaded where is it?
[07:54] <maryen> no idea
[07:54] <m4x1mum> no not the list, the actual file
[07:54] <maryen> land of make-believe probably
[07:54] <m4x1mum> huh?
[07:54] <Ahmuck> i think adept updater just locked up
[07:54] <Momal> this is where the debs go /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:54] <maryen> how so ahmuck
[07:55] <Ahmuck> dpkg finished, and it is just sitting there
[07:55] <poseidon> maryen: It wants me to register...
[07:55] <maryen> what wants you to register
[07:55] <m4x1mum> aaah ok
[07:55] <poseidon> freenode
[07:55] <maryen> and himawan, are you gonna say anything but hi??
[07:55] <maryen> oh
[07:56] <poseidon> maryen: and I got to go to sleep now, anyways
[07:56] <maryen> just do /msg NICKSERV register <password>
[07:56] <poseidon> 'nightness
[07:56] <maryen> then you're registered
[07:56] <maryen> nite
[07:57] <maryen> ahmuck close your apt, then do apt-get update again
[07:57] <maryen> or actually "sudo killall apt-get"
[07:57] <Ahmuck> maryen: ya, i killed it
[07:58] <m4x1mum> man i need to learn the linux file structure
[07:58] <maryen> dont push yourself m4x
[07:58] <Momal> lol
[07:59] <maryen> just enjoy yourself and learn as you go
[07:59] <maryen> guh, no updated packages since this morning
[07:59] <maryen> what are the edgy devs doing
[07:59] <m4x1mum> i feel uncomfortable, i dont know where the files are stored :(, in windows i can even remove some of the virus manually without using anti-virus, cause i know most of the file structure
[07:59] <maryen> i need my package fix
[08:00] <ccherrett> I am trying to install cinepaint but apt can't find it
[08:00] <ccherrett> do I need to specify different repositories?
[08:00] <ccherrett> how does that work?
[08:00] <maryen> whats the error message say
[08:00] <ccherrett> E: Couldn't find package cinepaint
[08:00] <m4x1mum> i have cinepaint in adept
[08:01] <maryen> try apt-cache search cinepaint
[08:01] <ccherrett> do I need to turn on universe
[08:01] <ccherrett> in sources
[08:01] <himawan_22> I have a problem about my sound card..
[08:01] <ccherrett> apt-cache search cinepaint = nothing
[08:01] <maryen> if you are typing the name of the package correctly it would have a different error even if all your repos arent on
[08:01] <maryen> whats up with it himawan
[08:02] <m4x1mum> my adept manager have universe and multiverse added
[08:02] <himawan_22> I use kubuntu, and this system have know about my sound card..
[08:02] <himawan_22> but i can't hear anything from my computer.
[08:02] <maryen> is it refusing to play sound anymore even though it did before?
[08:02] <himawan_22> can you help me??
[08:02] <maryen> not sure
[08:02] <ccherrett> m4x1mum: what are the entries for multiverse?
[08:03] <maryen> did it play sound before?
[08:03] <maryen> bye himawan
[08:03] <maryen> -.-
[08:03] <ccherrett> once you uncomment a line in sources do you need to do anything to apt to get it to read from them?
[08:03] <avuton> How can I tell what's in ubuntu's package repository? (on the web possibly?)
[08:03] <maryen> sudo apt-get update
[08:04] <maryen> avuton: apt-cache search
[08:04] <ccherrett> thanks
[08:04] <ccherrett> ah that worked :)
[08:05] <ccherrett> thanks
[08:05] <maryen> you dont want a list of every package in the repos avuton
[08:05] <maryen> that would be far too much to read
[08:05] <Momal> can you acually list everything? because I tried and it never worked for me
[08:05] <maryen> i dont think so
[08:05] <maryen> adept lists everything
[08:06] <Momal> using * returns nothing and without anything just says give one pattern... thats via apt-cache
[08:06] <avuton> maryen: actually, is there anyway without being in the distro, I'm not a user
[08:06] <maryen> hmm
[08:06] <maryen> possibly
[08:07] <himawan_> left the room
[08:07] <Momal> maybe on the repos website?
[08:07] <maryen> probably
[08:07] <maryen> or typing in the repo server
[08:07] <avuton> I'm sorry, I looked for it, maybe blind, but couldn't find it
[08:08] <maryen> avuton: there are 20k packages available to a person with full ubuntu repos
[08:08] <maryen> you dont really wanna look through that do you?
[08:08] <avuton> Right, there's got to be a way to search for one, to get information on a package, like packages.gentoo.org ...right(?)
[08:09] <maryen> hmm
[08:09] <maryen> using the ubuntu live cd you could
[08:09] <maryen> thats the easiest way i can think of
[08:09] <avuton> maryen: wow, ok, thanks :)
[08:10] <maryen> np
[08:11] <maryen> ok i go watch outlaw star for a sec
[08:11] <maryen> bye
[08:11] <maryen|nerdtasti> eww, nerdtasti?
[08:12] <maryen|nerdjesus> bbl
[08:15] <kerberoz> gracias maryen
[08:15] <kerberoz> thank you maryen
[08:16] <kerberoz> amarok is working
[08:16] <maryen|nerdjesus> np
[08:18] <frankkm> Which codec should I use tp play .ra files in amarok?
[08:18] <m4x1mum> azureus is only version 2.4 in adept?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> m4x1mum: File structure is pretty simple
[08:19] <DaSkreech> m4x1mum: Search for FHS on the net to see the standard
[08:19] <maryen|nerdjesus> w32codecs frankkm
[08:19] <frankkm> okay
[08:21] <m4x1mum> wow i got 3 seconds lag
[08:21] <DaSkreech> Hi wrabbit^
[08:22] <m4x1mum> ok people i've done this sudo mke2fs -j -c /dev/sdb1, so the filestructure should be in ext3 now right?
[08:22] <m4x1mum> no need to do anything else?
[08:22] <wrabbit^> Hey DaSkreech  :) How goes it?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> wrabbit^: Not bad
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Dead tired though
[08:23] <frankkm> It aint playing my ra file, i have installed the w32 codec
[08:23] <wrabbit^> DaSkreech, well yeah.  You seem to be awake 24/7
[08:23] <wrabbit^> :P
[08:23] <DaSkreech> 22/7
[08:23] <maryen|nerdjesus> strange
[08:24] <frankkm> yeah, its really strange
[08:24] <wrabbit^> hehe.... So yeah, after my reinstallation and partitioning yesterday, everything seems to be going quite well.  Didn't bother with automatix this time and installed everything I needed via command.   Nope, not yet
[08:26] <maryen> you better before i get angry
[08:32] <shriphani> i tried fluxbox
[08:33] <DaSkreech> shriphani: Woot?
[08:34] <shriphani> certainly not what i wanted
[08:34] <shriphani> i would appreciate some clutter as 256 megs ram aint soo small right ?
[08:36] <shriphani> DaSkreech: any other desktop environs ?
[08:36] <DaSkreech> So you want clutter?
[08:36] <shriphani> a slght bit
[08:36] <DaSkreech> shriphani: Fluxbox isn't a Desktop Environ btw
[08:36] <shriphani> yeh
[08:36] <shriphani> just a window manager
[08:37] <DaSkreech> tried E?
[08:37] <shriphani> enlight
[08:37] <shriphani> that one ?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> Yup
[08:38] <shriphani> its good ?
[08:38] <DaSkreech> It's cluttery :)
[08:39] <DaSkreech> If you want to swing it first you can check out elive
[08:39] <shriphani> oh
[08:39] <DaSkreech>  if you just wanna apt-get it then you may want the Seerofsouls repo
[08:39] <shriphani> its a complete desktop environment ?
[08:39] <Momal> anyone know of a good script capture tool for kde... that will record it as video?
[08:40] <word> any ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?
[08:40] <DaSkreech> It
[08:40] <method|> shriphani: what's wrong with kde?
[08:40] <DaSkreech> its pretty close
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Momal: Screenkast
[08:41] <shriphani> i wudd like something minimalistic and slightly appealing
[08:41] <orient2000> what should I type in konsole to become superuser?
[08:42] <DaSkreech> orient2000: Sudo su
[08:42] <shriphani> sudo -i ?
[08:42] <orient2000> tks
[08:42] <DaSkreech> sudo -i >_<
[08:42] <DaSkreech> orient2000: Why do you want to run as super user?
[08:43] <m4x1mum> in adept what is request purging for?
[08:43] <word> m4x1mum: deleting everything even config files created by that package
[08:44] <DaSkreech> m4x1mum: It deletes the config files
[08:44] <DaSkreech> And all saved stuff as far as I know?
[08:46] <InteliWasp> anyone have links to window managers/desktop evireoments reviews?
[08:46] <DaSkreech> InteliWasp: They'd all be rubbish :)
[08:47] <DaSkreech> InteliWasp: It's far too subjective
[08:47] <InteliWasp> alright.. then a list then
[08:47] <word> DaSkreech: when you said 'it' were you referring to the computer that doesn't let others mount it?
[08:48] <Momal> is their a repo for screenkast?... seems the deb for it and the other's need all this other stuff but none of it is in adept/apt-get
[08:48] <DaSkreech> word: No I was referring to the fact that I was too tired to notice that I hadn't finished typing out the sentence that I had just formulated in my head and hit enter
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Momal: try seerofsouls
[08:49] <m4x1mum> what the hell this stupid azureus is running in background?!?!?! how to kill it?
[08:49] <DaSkreech> killall azureus
[08:50] <m4x1mum> doesnt work
[08:50] <m4x1mum> i got this error StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process listening on [<IP_ADDRESS>: 6880]
[08:50] <m4x1mum> when i try to run azureus
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: means you still have azureus running in the background
[08:51] <InteliWasp> the reason i'm asking is that someone was telling me of some enviroment or WM... not sure (was kinda drink :P) that was divided into 3 or 4 windows one of them taking half and the rest as large previews
[08:52] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: use ksysguard to kill it
[08:52] <m4x1mum> ps command doesn't show any azureus
[08:52] <ridlohman> hi
[08:53] <maryen> kill java
[08:53] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: try sudo ps aux
[08:53] <Hobbsee> !pbuilder
[08:53] <ubotu> pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[08:54] <maryen> that will kill azureus along with it
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: or sudo ksysguard
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> yeah might be a java process still sitting running
[08:55] <orient2000> I could not open update because dpkg process was interupted and I had to do it manually in a konsole.
[08:55] <maryen> okzy
[08:55] <m4x1mum> this is weird azureus died immediately once i start it :(
[08:56] <Linux_Galore> orient2000:  run adept in a console and read the text and do what it says
[08:56] <m4x1mum> and azureus popup couldn't be closed down
[08:56] <maryen> azureus is... not to good in dapper
[08:56] <word> any ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?
[08:56] <m4x1mum> whats a better torrent client?
[08:56] <maryen> ktorrent
[08:56] <word> m4x1mum: azureus :P
[08:56] <word> m4x1mum: you don't have java set up right
[08:56] <maryen> in dapper ktorrent is the best you'll get
[08:56] <Linux_Galore> I have no issues with azureus on kubuntu - dapper
[08:56] <word> maryen: i use azureus just fine...
[08:57] <maryen> bah how so
[08:58] <m4x1mum> i have 2 version of java installed 1.4 and 1.5 strangely the 1.4 is not removed
[08:58] <shriphani> so is gnome or kde better for 256 megs of ra ?
[08:58] <word> like..i click the shortcut...and it opens up...and i add torrents..and it downloads..
[08:58] <orient2000> I did it manually but one of the servers of universe or other is down and I will have to finish it maybe tomorrow.
[08:58] <shriphani> ram ^
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: because you havent defined you default yet then you have to remove 1.4
[08:58] <maryen> no, how did you setup java to make azureus run properly
[08:58] <martynda> hi, i have installed apache2 and php5 through apt-get, but when i go to a php file, the browser tries to download it, can someone help me out?
[08:58] <orient2000> ok I go to konsole   adept
[08:58] <word> m4x1mum: not that strange...you need to set up java apps to use the newer version..forgot teh command for it
[08:58] <word> maryen: i'll look up the command...
[08:58] <DaSkreech> Momal: how goes?
[08:58] <m4x1mum> ooh i thought adept will automatically remove 1.4 when i install 1.5
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: nope
[08:58] <maryen> fine, ill try azureus once more
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: you have to define your new default after you run adept
[08:58] <Momal> DaSkreech: Well I seemed to get it installed now but it keeps saying that I have a vnc running already :S.. when there isn't an process of one
[08:58] <maryen> but then again i like how ktorrent isnt as much of a resource hog
[08:59] <m4x1mum> even in windows utorrent is the best one single exe, very small and it works as good as azureus :)
[09:00] <shriphani> so is gnome or kde better for 256 megs of ram ?
[09:00] <m4x1mum> Linux_Galore: How to define the default?
[09:00] <maryen> xfce is better
[09:00] <shriphani> umm
[09:00] <DaSkreech> shriphani: Recently it seems to be KDE but something lighter is much better
[09:00] <shriphani> i wouldnt like to run qt + gtk
[09:00] <method|> have you tried xfce?
[09:01] <shriphani> nope
[09:01] <word> maryen: m4x1mum: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:01] <word> just select different ones until it works lol..one of em should if you have 1.5 installed..
[09:01] <method|> it's supposedly good for not so super computers
[09:01] <Ash-Fox> I've found firefox runs faster under kde than under xfce (as odd as that sounds)
[09:01] <shriphani> rt. now kde is running ok
[09:01] <shriphani> not too slow
[09:01] <Momal> A VNC server is already running as :1 <-- :S... there is nothing running though
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: you need to run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:02] <m4x1mum> i use Opera instead of firefox
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: define you default java version
[09:02] <shriphani> but ksysguard shows one hell of cpu load
[09:03] <shriphani> i dont want that as a result
[09:03] <m4x1mum> yay azureus finally work, except the warning popup still cannot be closed
[09:03] <orient2000> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8 what is it?
[09:04] <shriphani> m4x1mum: so you suggest i get xfce ?
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: also its not wise to install java in adept because unless you click on the details button you will mis agreeing to the license
[09:04] <DaSkreech> Momal: open VNc and setit to run on :0 ?
[09:04] <word> m4x1mum: that's a bug in gtk I think..either that or one fixed in the cvs versions..i have the latest
[09:04] <DaSkreech> orient2000: You need to import the key for the repo you just added
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: you only get the warning if you dont properly shut down azureus
[09:05] <Momal> Warning: serverbox:0 is not taken because of /tmp/.X0-lock
[09:05] <Momal> Remove this file if there is no X server serverbox:0
[09:05] <Momal> A VNC server is already running as :0
[09:05] <Momal> safe to remove that file?
[09:05] <orient2000> you mean repository? repo?
[09:05] <word> m4x1mum: hmm...what version of azureus is in the repos?
[09:05] <m4x1mum> ooh
[09:05] <m4x1mum> 2.4....
[09:05] <maryen> thats the same problem i have  with azureus
[09:05] <maryen> and have had in azureus
[09:06] <word> m4x1mum: latest is <IP_ADDRESS> :P
[09:06] <m4x1mum> thats why i'm a bit confused the repos is outdated??
[09:06] <NameNomad> does anyone know of a good music editor that runs through Linux?  A friend told me about FruityLoops, but besides the fact that it costs money, it doesn't run on linux, so I can't use it.  Anyone know a good program for music editing?
[09:06] <word> maryen: m4x1mum: used to have the same problem a few weeks back but a cvs update fixed it i bet it's fixed in either 2.5 or <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:06] <word> m4x1mum: they usually are
[09:06] <DaSkreech> orient2000: Yes
[09:06] <Linux_Galore> I download azureus from there home page and install it in my home directory
[09:06] <maryen> actually its probably fixed for me since im using edgy
[09:07] <word> maryen: check the version of it
[09:07] <word> maryen: i was told it was a gtk problem but i'm starting to think it was an azureus problem
[09:08] <maryen> now azureus freezes at loading images
[09:08] <maryen> oh well
[09:09] <manjunatha> hello
[09:09] <word> maryen: 'oh well' isn't a very linuxy attitude :P
[09:09] <maryen> :p
[09:09] <maryen> ktorrent fits my needs now
[09:09] <maryen> azureus is dead to me
[09:09] <orient2000> I did not add any new repositories maybe it happened automatickly I have a new one wine and freecontrib where should I get the key and how to appy it?
[09:09] <word> run it in command line and check error output darnit ><
[09:09] <m4x1mum> but ktorrent is not that configurable as azureus
[09:10] <Steven_M> hi all
[09:10] <method|> maryen: why dont you use opera? it has a bittorrent client built in
[09:10] <Ash-Fox> How bloated...
[09:10] <method|> its also the best web browser for linux imo
[09:10] <word> orient2000: don't think those are automatic..but just google them most tuts with repos have the key as well
[09:10] <manjunatha> how to install opera in ubuntu
[09:10] <maryen> because opera doesnt have the nifty extensions firefox has
[09:10] <maryen> there doesnt seem to be an error message
[09:11] <maryen> it just stops loading
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> Google browser sync is one of the best ones in my opinion.
[09:11] <method|> never understood the fixation with firefox's extensions
[09:11] <m4x1mum> manjunatha: download the .deb file from opera website and install it through apt
[09:11] <word> method|: because they're dev team is snotty about being closed source :P
[09:11] <word> their*
[09:11] <manjunatha> tnxs
[09:11] <method|> word: unless you're a developer does it really affect you that much?
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> method|, show me another browser that lets me synchronize between different computers, OSes, and I'll consider it. I can do that with firefox extensions :P
[09:11] <m4x1mum> make sure you download for ubuntu, not other linux distribution
[09:11] <maryen> method|: when opera gets an extension that erases 90% of ads on the web, ill use it
[09:12] <Momal> DaSkreech: could not open default font 'fixed' <-- how do I fix that prob seems the vncserver wont start
[09:12] <method|> Ash-Fox: i can sync with opera
[09:12] <word> well for awhile i was beta testing and developing widgets..still kinda am..but meh
[09:12] <Ash-Fox> method|, really? *starts opera* how?
[09:12] <method|> maryen: opera has a great ad-blocker
[09:12] <word> method|: i'll agree with that one
[09:12] <method|> not as good as firefox's
[09:12] <method|> but it's good
[09:12] <word> no it's actually better in my experience
[09:13] <maryen> method|: im not talking about pop-ups, im talking flash banners, gifs, and all other advertisements
[09:13] <method|> maryen: i am too
[09:13] <m4x1mum> the thing that i dont like about firefox is that you have to install all the extension first to be as good or better than opera
[09:13] <manjunatha> opra can block images but firefox cant
[09:13] <method|> m4x1mum: exactly
[09:13] <maryen> method| i have never seen opera block an ad image
[09:13] <word> adblock can block images...
[09:13] <word> maryen: check teh version number on it..
[09:13] <method|> maryen: i dunno which opera you have used
[09:13] <m4x1mum> both firefox and opera can block image
[09:13] <Ash-Fox> method|, I'm not seeing the synchronisation feature in opera that lets me synchronise between different computers and different operating systems my cookies, bookmarks and stored passwords?
[09:14] <maryen> word: azureus is still frozen
[09:14] <word> maryen: check the darned version number in adept :P
[09:14] <maryen> word: java is quite possibly buggy still on edgy
[09:14] <maryen> word: k
[09:14] <manjunatha> selected blocking is not possible in fox
[09:14] <method|> Ash-Fox: it can sync bookmarks, and wand data, i dont know about cookies and such
[09:14] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:14] <word> manjunatha: it isn't? o.O adblock -> block image? not possible?
[09:14] <Ash-Fox> method|, okay, where is the automated synchronising for bookmarks then?
[09:15] <method|> Ash-Fox: file->import...opera bookmarks
[09:15] <word> method|: the wand thing is the only thing i miss from opera
[09:15] <Ash-Fox> that isn't synchronisation, that's importing
[09:15] <method|> you can also import ie or ff imports
[09:15] <method|> Ash-Fox: ok well shoot me
[09:15] <maryen> word: for some reason edgy still uses 2.402
[09:15] <method|> word: wand is the reason why i dont use konqueror
[09:15] <m4x1mum> firefox have similar stuff for wands if i remember correctly
[09:16] <word> maryen: because it hasn't been updated on repos just do yourself a favor and go out and get the newest
[09:16] <method|> firefox is a bit slower imo
[09:16] <m4x1mum> hei my azureus is also frozen lol
[09:16] <Momal> google working for other people at the moment? I think my isp has blocked it lol.. it wont load :S everything else does
[09:16] <method|> slower to load pages, tabs, and to load up in general
[09:16] <Ash-Fox> http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ <- I use it on macosx/linux/windows. Really is the win =)
[09:16] <word> maryen: all ya have to do is mv azureus ~/.azureus sudo ln -s ~/.azureus/azureus /usr/bin/azureus after you uninstall the package
[09:16] <method|> opera feels more lightweight
[09:16] <method|> but it has more stuff
[09:16] <method|> even a smaller download
[09:16] <word> i think irc and email are a bit much :P
[09:17] <Steven_M> have any of you ever used guarddog, a gui for iptables?
[09:17] <method|> word: yeah me too
[09:17] <maryen> method|: i loves my bon echo and nothin you say is gonna change that
[09:17] <method|> i never use opera's irc or email function
[09:17] <word> has anything really changed in bon echo?
[09:17] <method|> but the bittorrent thing is really cool
[09:17] <m4x1mum> i use opera's email though
[09:17] <word> method|: i tried using email until i realized it's really lacking in basic functionality
[09:17] <method|> even tho i dont really do much torrenting
[09:18] <method|> never tried it
[09:18] <method|> i do most of my email thru gmail
[09:18] <word> never...tried..it..?!
[09:18] <maryen> word: its got improved tab browsing, session restore, etc
[09:18] <maryen>  plus its prettier
[09:18] <word> session restore..built in...no memory leaks...?!?!?!?!?
[09:18] <word> !!!!one111eleventy!!
[09:19] <method|> lol
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about one111eleventy!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <m4x1mum> lol
[09:19] <word> !anything
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <word> eat that
[09:19] <method|> anyone in here using edgy eft?
[09:19] <maryen> me
[09:19] <NameNomad> !musiceditor
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about musiceditor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <maryen> ok 2.5 works but i still loves ktorrent
[09:20] <NameNomad> !music editor
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <method|> maryen: are the fonts ugly as sin out the box?
[09:20] <m4x1mum> maryen: lol
[09:20] <method|> like the screenshots i have seen?
[09:20] <maryen> method|: no
[09:20] <m4x1mum> you have said that many times
[09:20] <word> any ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?
[09:20] <maryen> they are beautiful
[09:20] <method|> cool
[09:20] <maryen> someone didnt hear me m4x1mum
[09:20] <method|> the screenshots i've seen they look equally as horrible out the box like dapper
[09:20] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:21] <method|> i cant remember what i did to make my fonts look nice so i was a bit worried about that
[09:21] <m4x1mum> is there a software to manage the bandwidth for individual software?
[09:21] <word> bandwith or speeds?
[09:22] <maryen> method|: sent you a screenshot
[09:22] <method|> hey anyone know if theres a shell command that with display bandwith usage?
[09:22] <m4x1mum> err like software a can only get maximum of 20kbps for example
[09:22] <method|> maryen: i dont think it connected or something
[09:22] <maryen> you registered?
[09:22] <word> m4x1mum: you talking about controlling azureus?
[09:23] <method|> registered now
[09:23] <method|> try again
[09:23] <m4x1mum> no not just azureus, iwant to controll everything
[09:23] <word> ah no idea there
[09:23] <m4x1mum> opera, irc, azureus
[09:23] <maryen> ok see it now?
[09:23] <method|> yeah it's trying to connect
[09:23] <method|> still no dice it looks like
[09:24] <m4x1mum> ok i've downloaded azureus 2.5, how do i install it?
[09:24] <maryen> http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7729/snapshot1oj7.png
[09:24] <maryen> there
[09:24] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:24] <method|> has anyone here ever tried pclinuxos?
[09:24] <maryen> m4x1mum you can run it by clicking the firefox script inside the folder
[09:25] <m4x1mum> i dont have firefox
[09:25] <method|> maryen: looks good
[09:25] <maryen> er azureus script
[09:25] <Steven_M> how do find out what version of samba I've got?
[09:27] <Torched> why would sound sometimes not play on youtube when i'm using kubuntu with firefox?
[09:28] <maryen> flash plugin uses oss which sucks
[09:28] <maryen> go yell at adobe
[09:28] <method|> Torched: it does it for opera too
[09:28] <Torched> why does it happen though?
[09:28] <Torched> i mean it's just sometimes
[09:28] <method|> flash for linux sucks right now im afraid :(
[09:28] <maryen> OSS conflicts with everyother sound system there is
[09:29] <maryen> if you are running anything sound related in linux, flash sound wont play
[09:29] <maryen> to fix this, close firefox
[09:29] <maryen> then go to the konsole and type "killall artsd"
[09:29] <Torched> i opened it in konqueror
[09:29] <maryen> then open firefox and view your flash with sound
[09:29] <Torched> it's working there
[09:30] <maryen> konqueror may be using a oss converter
[09:30] <maryen> dunno
[09:30] <Torched> you don't really know what you're talking about do you
[09:30] <maryen> no i do
[09:30] <maryen> any app using OSS requires exclusive use of the soundcard
[09:31] <Torched> right
[09:31] <Torched> i see
[09:31] <Torched> why does flash do that?
[09:31] <maryen> fceu is one of these apps, but aoss works better with it than flash
[09:31] <maryen> because flash wasn't programmed to use ALSA
[09:31] <Torched> what's salsa?
[09:32] <maryen> Advanced linux sound architecture
[09:32] <method|> [02:30]  <Torched> you don't really know what you're talking about do you
[09:32] <Torched> ohh ok
[09:32] <method|> lol
[09:32] <method|> sorry maryen but that was funny
[09:32] <maryen> lol
[09:33] <maryen> anyway, another way to fix it is to run firefox with aoss firefox, but this makes firefox really unstable
[09:34] <maryen> a new flash version <i>should</i> be coming out next year, and hopefully it wont used the dated OSS
[09:34] <maryen> argh my italics didnt work
[09:34] <method|> didnt know irc had italics
[09:34] <method|> lol
[09:34] <method|> ive been ircing for like 10 years
[09:35] <Torched> apparently it doesnt
[09:35] <method|> %itest%i
[09:35] <method|> 	test
[09:35] <method|> whoa
[09:35] <Torched> that worked
[09:35] <Torched> no way
[09:35] <method|> well aint that a bitch
[09:35] <maryen> how'd you do that
[09:35] <maryen> i need it for sarcasm
[09:35] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:35] <Torched> 	ghah
[09:35] <method|> lol
[09:35] <Torched> 	it works, it totally works
[09:36] <maryen> tell me the secret to your witchcraft 0.o
[09:36] <Torched> ctrl i
[09:36] <maryen> 		jsk
[09:36] <Torched> a little trick bill gates taught me
[09:36] <maryen> im using conversation
[09:36] <Torched> me too
[09:36] <Torched> well, konversation
[09:36] <Torched> 	konversation
[09:36] <maryen>
[09:37] <Torched> that's not quite it
[09:37] <maryen> eat paragraph marks
[09:37] <maryen>
[09:37] <Torched> 	NEVER!
[09:37] <maryen> %i ; ;
[09:37] <maryen> %i ; ; %i
[09:38] <m4x1mum_> what the command to delete a directory ignoring whether if there is a file or not?
[09:38] <maryen> rm -rf
[09:38] <maryen> have fun
[09:38] <maryen> do sudo rm -rf /
[09:39] <m4x1mum_> haha no thanks
[09:39] <maryen> it makes your computer faster tho
[09:42] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:43] <maryen> no
[09:44] <abattoir> Momal: X doesnt start? edgy?
[09:44] <maryen> i didn't know mythbusters used kubuntu
[09:44] <Momal> nar X is started... just when im trying to start vncserver
[09:44] <Momal> it returns that error :S
[09:44] <maryen> no wonder they're so smart
[09:45] <m4x1mum_> lol
[09:54] <maryen> no one wants help at 3 in the morning
[09:54] <maryen> who'd have thought
[09:59] <sergey_> help
[09:59] <sergey_> #help
[09:59] <sergey_> how change code page ??
[10:00] <RawSewage> how do you join mulitpart .avi
[10:00] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone?!?!
[10:00] <maryen> multipart.avi?
[10:00] <RawSewage> yes, an  avi split into  avi.001   avi.002  etc
[10:01] <Momal> he is asking to join avi files together
[10:01] <maryen> hmm
[10:01] <maryen> i don't know, i bet fdoving would though
[10:01] <maryen> but hes sleeping
[10:01] <maryen> or is he...
[10:02] <frankkm> I just downloaded a rpm file how do I get it installed?
[10:02] <maryen> alien
[10:02] <afd_> hi! Is there a "automatically save view profile for folder"? What I'm trying to achieve is that when I change the view mode for a folder, this view mode will be used for this folder from now on
[10:02] <afd_> Windows Explorer and Nautilus have this option
[10:02] <maryen> i wouldn't suggest it though, it can mess up your install
[10:02] <frankkm> ok
[10:02] <method|> frankkm: unless you're using pclinuxos, fedora, redhat, or some other rpm based distro i have no clue
[10:03] <maryen> alien allows debian users to use rpm packages
[10:03] <frankkm> I use kubuntu
[10:03] <maryen> but its very beta
[10:03] <maryen> if you wanna try it though, "sudo apt-get install alien
[10:03] <method|> frankkm: if you're looking for a kde based rpm distro i'd suggest pclinuxos
[10:04] <method|> it's every bit as good as kubuntu
[10:04] <method|> and a bit better in other ways
[10:04] <frankkm> ok
[10:04] <maryen> afd_ try closing all instances of konqueror after applying the view mode to the folder
[10:05] <afd_> maryen: I did, didn't work. This sucks :(
[10:07] <afd_> maryen: I supose a .desktop file could get konqueror to list the folder in a different way. I wonder where to get my hands on this information (and why this option isn't in default kde)
[10:08] <maryen> hmm im not sure afd_
[10:08] <maryen> tell me if you find anything out
[10:09] <afd_> maryen: ok
[10:09] <maryen> method|: you're not supposed to move people away from kubuntu :p
[10:09] <maryen> the ops oughta spank you good
[10:11] <maryen> bah, still can't install nvidia drivers on my comp
[10:11] <method|> maryen: i used kubuntu
[10:12] <method|> pclinuxos is like the rpm based version of kubuntu heh
[10:12] <maryen> rpm is the devil though
[10:12] <maryen> well not really
[10:12] <method|> maryen: in pclinuxos to install nvidia drivers all you have to do is install the package and restart X :P
[10:12] <maryen> just everything is alot more spread out
[10:12] <maryen> in edgy the nvidia-glx package is still broken
[10:13] <maryen> they needa update some of the dependencies
[10:13] <maryen> not to mention, it doesn't play nice with the general kernel and tries to force me onto 386
[10:14] <llogiq> Hi there.
[10:14] <maryen> hi
[10:14] <maryen> one of us is a cannibal, guess which and get a prize
[10:14] <whiz2> I'm trying to use Amarok to play .ogg and mp3 files, but I keep getting an error message that says "No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes."
[10:15] <maryen> hmm
[10:15] <ubuntu_> moo?
[10:15] <maryen> moo
[10:16] <ubuntu_> just checking :)
[10:16] <Moo_> .
[10:16] <maryen> try apt-get remove amarok --purge and then a reinstall
[10:16] <ubuntu_> o someones nickname is moo
[10:16] <Moo_> :P
[10:16] <maryen> shall we worship him?
[10:16] <ubuntu_> yes!
[10:17] <maryen> ew
[10:17] <llogiq> whiz2: The usual KUbuntu distribution does not have mp3 codecs for legal reasons.
[10:17] <maryen> he cant play ogg either
[10:17] <llogiq> Hmmm...then a reinstall might do the trick...
[10:17] <whiz2> ogg plays fine in Kaffeine
[10:18] <maryen> try wiping and reinstalling amarok then
[10:18] <maryen> and make sure to remember the purge tag
[10:18] <Momal> anyone able to run vncserver under kubuntu ?
[10:18] <maryen> im not to fond of servers, or the internets
[10:19] <whiz2> ok and where do I get mp3 codecs?
[10:19] <maryen> too*
[10:19] <maryen> you have to enable the multiverse repos
[10:19] <whiz2> everything is enabled I think
[10:19] <maryen> then do apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:20] <maryen> question whiz2
[10:20] <method|> how do you enable the multiverse and universe in adept?
[10:20] <maryen> do you recognize the word multiverse
[10:21] <method|> im used to synaptic
[10:21] <ubunt_> i run dapper on vmware player and the highest resolution that i can choose in preferences is 1024.786, but i need 1280x1024.
[10:21] <whiz2> I recognize the word, yes, but dunno it's meaning in kubuntu
[10:21] <maryen> uncomment the universe lines in the sources list, and add multiverse to the end of every line that has universe in it
[10:22] <whiz2> I got my copy of sources.list from a friend who had everything already enabled, so I don't need to worry about it
[10:22] <maryen> ok then you should be fine
[10:22] <maryen> sorta
[10:22] <whiz2> he got all the new repositories too
[10:22] <maryen> you really need to learn to alter your sources list tho
[10:22] <whiz2> also added multiverse to the end of every repository line
[10:23] <whiz2> I'm a noob to Linux. he made it simple for me. I'm learning little by little
[10:23] <method|> where's sources.list again?
[10:23] <whiz2> /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:23] <maryen> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:24] <whiz2> apt-get says "amrok is already the newest version. 0upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 0 not upgraded"
[10:25] <maryen> whiz
[10:25] <whiz2> Yes?
[10:25] <maryen> do "sudo apt-get remove amarok --purge"
[10:25] <llogiq> I got a problem with wlan on my Averatec 3156. It has a Intersil/Prism2.5 USB chipset. I tried the installation instructions on the german wiki.ubuntuusers.de, but to no avail (It seems the drivers compile against 2.4 kernels). I also found instructions on http://chronox.de/averatec_linux/linux_on_3156X.html
[10:25] <llogiq> that should work for debian on this subnote. The prism2_usb drivers in /lib/modules do not appear to work, iwconfig says nothing.
[10:25] <maryen> then "sudo apt-get clean"
[10:25] <maryen> then "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[10:26] <whiz2> Thank you. whoever gave me the command a moment ago, gave me the wrong one
[10:26] <maryen> llogiq: ndiswrapper a no-go?
[10:26] <method|> you guys said uncomment all the lines with universe in them and add multiverse?
[10:26] <maryen> yes
[10:27] <maryen> add multiverse to any line with universe, and uncomment all repositories
[10:27] <llogiq> maryen: Haven't tried yet, as the docs said that the intersil drivers should work.
[10:27] <maryen> hmm
[10:27] <Momal> does anyone know a fix: could not open default font 'fixed' ? (error from vncserver)
[10:28] <maryen> momal, have you searched in the repos for the font "fixed"?
[10:28] <Momal> yup
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Fatal server error:
[10:29] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:29] <Momal> thats what vncserver is saying.. those paths exist and are working fine
[10:29] <fdoving> !pastebin
[10:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:29] <whiz2> Thanks for helping me to repair Amarok
[10:29] <maryen> agh! its fdoving, hide!
[10:30] <fdoving> Momal: do you have the 'xfonts-base' package installed?
[10:30] <Momal> yup
[10:30] <maryen|hiding> maybe try wiping them?
[10:30] <Momal> according to good the fixed font has to do with the alias file in the misc folder and its there :S
[10:31] <maryen|hiding> guh, i should of been in bed an hour ago
[10:32] <fdoving> Momal: try running 'fc-cache -f' from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[10:32] <maryen|hiding> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25947/
[10:33] <maryen|hiding> hmm pastebin would be useful for posting example sources.list files
[10:33] <Momal> yea tried that from a site on net didn't work.. just tried it again and still same error
[10:34] <whiz2> Thank you. Amarok is working, and MP3s are now enabled. :-)
[10:34] <maryen|hiding> np whiz2
[10:36] <maryen|hiding> hey fdoving, know how to get an nvidia card running on a dual-core comp using edgy eft?
[10:37] <fdoving> no. i'm blessed with just old enought ati cards to get DRI by default. :)
[10:37] <fdoving> !nvidia
[10:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:37] <maryen|hiding> lol lucky ; ;
[10:37] <fdoving> is the only help i can give.
[10:37] <maryen|hiding> bah tried that already
[10:37] <maryen|hiding> the new "general" kernel is a PITA
[10:38] <Momal> :(... how can you get an error when there shouldn't be any error garrr
[10:38] <maryen|hiding> sudo apt-get remove linux
[10:38] <maryen|hiding> goodnight
[10:38] <Momal> lol?
[10:43] <Momal> garr this makes no sense >_<
[10:44] <rittap> goodmorning
[10:46] <bioticpro> How can I mount dvd.iso file on HD, so it can be played or ripped?
[10:46] <maurizio> easy kubuntu
[10:47] <maurizio> link per scaricare easy kubuntu
[10:47] <fdoving> !easyubuntu
[10:47] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:47] <fdoving> !iso > bioticpro
[10:48] <rittap> I installed kubuntu to my hard drive and now I get a read error when loading grub, can someone help me?
[10:48] <bioticpro> fdoving: thx :)
[10:49] <stephen_> b
[10:51] <rittap> I installed kubuntu to my hard drive and now I get a read error when loading grub, can someone help me?
[10:54] <satempler> rittap: wait till your question goes off screen to ask again
[10:54] <satempler> what error btw
[10:54] <Steven_M> does anyone here use guarddog, I really need help?
[10:56] <fdoving> rittap: try this: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php
[10:56] <Steven_M> does anyone here use guarddog, I really need help?
[10:56] <rittap> @satempler sorry :) but I didnt see anything except loading Grub, read error
[10:56] <fdoving> Steven_M: what do you need.
[10:56] <fdoving> ?
[10:57] <satempler> rittap: so what just says Grub and thats it
[10:58] <rittap> satempler: jup, it doesnt do anything else
[10:58] <rittap> satempler: and its a clean install
[10:58] <satempler> rittap: how many harddrive you have in the system and, are you dual booting
[10:59] <rittap> satempler: I have 2 harddrives (1 IDE 1 SATA) the IDE is the linux HD, and is first in boot order
[11:00] <Steven_M> fdoving:  I did a to know how to get guarddog to allow apsolutely everthing from a nominated ip address
[11:00] <satempler> rittap: you sure ok do the install again but before the last step in installing it will have a review and what you need to make sure is that grub is on hd0,0
[11:00] <rittap> satempler: I installed from LIVE Cd
[11:00] <satempler> rittap: thats the easyest way i know how
[11:00] <satempler> ok
[11:01] <rittap> satempler: so I dont see any grub configurations
[11:01] <satempler> you won't
[11:01] <Steven_M> fdoving: stet did=need
[11:01] <satempler> it will assume the default
[11:01] <satempler> but the last screen will display a summary just before install
[11:02] <satempler> there you should be able to change the boot drive
[11:02] <rittap> satempler: I will try it, and report back later
[11:02] <rittap> satempler: thanks!
[11:02] <satempler> rittap: no problem and remember ask once wait till it goes off screen
[11:03] <rittap> satempler: lol will do :P
[11:03] <satempler> some times there is 5 people all helping 4 people each
[11:03] <satempler> so it takes time
[11:03] <satempler> ;)
[11:03] <Steven_M> fdoving: do you use guarddog yourself?
[11:06] <kraut> moin
[11:10] <DHGE> rittap: when booting press e
[11:10] <DHGE> edit (hd0,1)
[11:10] <DHGE> to something like (hd1,1)
[11:10] <DHGE> or opposite ...
[11:10] <rittap> DHGE: I know about the e, only it wont come that far...
[11:11] <DHGE> boot sector protection in BIOS?
[11:11] <rittap> DHGE: It just says Loading Grub, Read error
[11:11] <rittap> DHGE: Havent heard about it! Will check also
[11:12] <DHGE> boot from the live CD and look into your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:13] <DHGE> man grub    to reinstall
[11:13] <rittap> DHGE: will do after install is done
[11:14] <DHGE> rittap: WAIT   SATA is not THAT fast on cold start   do a reset (warm start)
[11:15] <rittap> DHGE: have already tried
[11:15] <rittap> DHGE: also removed anything from boot order except linux HD (which is IDE)
[11:16] <rittap> DHGE: no change
[11:16] <DHGE> disconnect the SATA to see if it is a BIOS problem ...
[11:16] <rittap> DHGE: it isnt
[11:17] <rittap> DHGE: tried that already
[11:17] <DHGE> mainboard?
[11:17] <rittap> DHGE: It cant be the mainboard or such (it highly unlikely) will probably just be grub
[11:18] <DHGE> highly unlikely
[11:18] <rittap> DHGE: wait, that isn't correct english :)
[11:18] <DHGE> hehe ..
[11:19] <rittap> DHGE: you get the picture
[11:19] <rittap> :)
[11:29] <josh_> how do i enable the numlock key being active at startup?
[11:29] <rittap> josh_: it's an option in the system settings
[11:29] <zorglu_> josh_: somewhere in 'system setting' .. not precise but it is there
[11:30] <zorglu_> rittap is as precise as me :)
[11:30] <rittap> josh_: try keyboard
[11:30] <rittap> it has an option named ' Numlock on KDE startup'
[11:30] <josh_> well that was easy
[11:30] <josh_> lol
[11:30] <rittap> josh_: ur welcome ;)
[11:30] <josh_> ty :)
[11:31] <josh_> how do i share my drive?
[11:31] <josh_> i tried to but it gave me some error about only being able to share folders in my home directory...
[11:31] <josh_> and im not net sharing this folder
[11:32] <rittap> josh_: see there's where my linux knowledge runs out :)
[11:32] <josh_> thats what the ftp is for lol
[11:32] <josh_> lol rit
[11:32] <rittap> zorglu_: maybe you have an idea for josh_
[11:33] <zorglu_> thinking :)
[11:33] <zorglu_> what is the protocol you use to share this folder ?
[11:33] <josh_> samba
[11:33] <josh_> its for the wifes winblows box
[11:33] <josh_> and her mac
[11:33] <rittap> josh_: is the samba deamon running :)
[11:33] <josh_> yep
[11:33] <zorglu_> !samba
[11:33] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:33] <josh_> i just cant authenticate
[11:34] <zorglu_> is the max of the idea i got :)
[11:34] <zorglu_> using a tool to configure it would be my advice
[11:36] <zorglu_> btw linux should have a tool for setting this up via zeroconf and no password
[11:36] <zorglu_> it is the 'dentist case' and all the people who came here to config samba were in this case
[11:36] <rittap> zorglu_ & josh_ : which is, again, in the system settings :)
[11:37] <rittap> Or at least i thought i was
[11:37] <zorglu_> but system setting got weird trouble for me
[11:37] <zorglu_> when i enter in 'admin mode' to modify stuff, it keep the option all greyed out
[11:37] <rittap> zorglu_: yeah, tell me about it :)
[11:38] <zorglu_> oh so im not the only one :)
[11:38] <josh_> Command '/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi 1' not found.
[11:38] <rittap> !avahi
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <rittap> hmm
[11:38] <zorglu_> try install 'avahi-utils'
[11:39] <zorglu_> it is a zeroconf deamon
[11:39] <rittap> ah I see :)
[11:39] <zorglu_> !info avahi-utils
[11:39] <ubotu> avahi-utils: Avahi browsing, publishing and discovery utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.10-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 140 kB
[11:39] <rittap> !info avahi > rittap
[11:39] <ubotu> Package avahi does not exist in any distro I know
[11:39] <zorglu_> there are a bunch of package, i dunno what are their respective purpose
[11:40] <rittap> ah well
[11:40] <rittap> I hate bots anyway :)
[11:41] <zorglu_> !info *avahi*
[11:41] <ubotu> Package avahi does not exist in any distro I know
[11:41] <zorglu_> ok globbing doesnt work
[11:43] <rittap> zorglu_: you know anything about grub?
[11:43] <zorglu_> basic knowledge to get mine working with multiple linux
[11:44] <zorglu_> what is your question
[11:44] <rittap> I installed kubuntu 6.06 to my IDE HD, and it gives a read error when loading grub
[11:44] <zorglu_> i cant believe xine doesnt implement http source properly
[11:44] <rittap> right after a clean install
[11:44] <zorglu_> is there a window on the box
[11:45] <rittap> jup, SATA HD
[11:45] <zorglu_> is the livecd was able to read the hd right ?
[11:45] <rittap> jup
[11:45] <rittap> both
[11:45] <rittap> I have them both mounted atm (i am working on livecd)
[11:46] <zorglu_> hmm i dunno what is a SATA hd
[11:46] <zorglu_> i know this is a 'new' norme but no more
[11:46] <zorglu_> are they special, like requiring another driver ?
[11:46] <rittap> dunno really
[11:46] <damian> don't worry guys
[11:46] <rittap> Serial ATA, and linux sees it as /dev/sda
[11:47] <damian> windows vista is coming soon
[11:47] <damian> then you can all stop using linyx
[11:47] <Elgfar> Yea right...
[11:47] <rittap> damian: ugh that's straightforward
[11:47] <rittap> damian: so you really believe that M$ is critical bug proof this time
[11:48] <rittap> damian: then go dream along
[11:48] <Elgfar> If i'm migrating from Linux - it will be to a *BSD platform
[11:48] <zorglu_> damian: ok please take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:48] <zorglu_> and please ALL dont feed him
[11:48] <rittap> zorglu_: LOL :)
[11:48] <damian> zorglu haha i get it don't feed the troll never *ever* heard that one before
[11:49] <zorglu_> rittap: hard you using raid ?
[11:49] <zorglu_> hard=are
[11:49] <rittap> zorglu_: nope
[11:49] <rittap> zorglu_: definitely not
[11:50] <rittap> maybe you want to take a look on the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:50] <rittap> wait i'll send you the file!
[11:50] <zorglu_> yep the one from the installed partition
[11:50] <zorglu_> use pastebin
[11:50] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[11:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:51] <zorglu_> this one is rather slow, we should put a faster one in there
[11:51] <freeflying> anyone here use da_DK as default locale? thanks
[11:51] <rittap> oh i was thinking to just send the file over
[11:52] <rittap> but if you want pastebin
[11:52] <zorglu_> via dcc ? i dont even know if we can
[11:52] <Martijn81> freeflying: nope, NL here, why?
[11:52] <rittap> zorglu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25954/
[11:53] <freeflying> Martijn81: need someone reproduce a bug
[11:53] <pointwood> anyone know how to get konqueror to keep the bookmarks toolbar hidden? It seems, every time I reboot, konqy shows the bookmarks toolbar again :(
[11:54] <zorglu_> rittap: see it doesnt start. gessing some nat/firewall issue
[11:54] <rittap> zorglu_: was worth the try
[11:54] <zorglu_> rittap: yep :)
[11:54] <rittap> zorglu_: ah well you have the link anyways
[11:55] <zorglu_> rittap: using "df" can you give me the line for the root of the installed system
[11:55] <rittap> !df
[11:55] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[11:55] <zorglu_> rittap: or simpler, type "df" in a terminal and paste the output in pastebin
[11:56] <rittap> zorglu_: lol i just had the line hang on
[11:56] <zorglu_> ok
[11:56] <rittap> zorglu_: please note that i am running live cd
[11:56] <rittap> zorglu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25955/
[11:57] <rittap> zorglu_: /dev/hda1 is the /
[11:57] <zorglu_> as faster pastebin there is pastebin.ulteo.us or pastebin.ca
[11:57] <zorglu_> hmm it is /dev/hda1
[11:57] <zorglu_> like in the grub
[11:58] <zorglu_> i was wondering because me googling seems to show that other use /dev/sda1 for SATA
[11:58] <abelh> buenos dias
[11:58] <zorglu_> !es
[11:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:58] <rittap> zorglu_: hold, SATA drive is windows, IDE is linux
[11:58] <abelh> gracias
[11:59] <zorglu_> rittap: what do you mean ?
[11:59] <zorglu_> rittap: you got 2 disk ?
[11:59] <abelh> #ubuntu-es
[11:59] <rittap> zorglu_: I got 2 disks, 1 SATA which is for windows, 1 IDE which is for linux
[12:00] <rittap> zorglu_: SATA drive is in linux device /dev/sda, IDE drive is /dev/hda
[12:00] <zorglu_> abelh: type "/joint #ubuntu-es"
[12:00] <DHGE> rittap: uncomment the maps
[12:00] <DHGE> eh comment
[12:01] <rittap> DHGE: sorry?
[12:01] <zorglu_> he mean at the end of the menu.lst
[12:01] <DHGE> sata is 0
[12:01] <DHGE> rittap: put a "#" before the map lines ...
[12:01] <zorglu_> DHGE: you think that the chainloader could prevent linux from booting ?
[12:01] <rittap> DHGE: done
[12:01] <DHGE> no
[12:02] <rittap> DHGE: should i reboot ;)
[12:02] <DHGE> what else? ;-)
[12:02] <zorglu_> DHGE: can you explain the 'comment the map line' thing ?
[12:02] <rittap> DHGE: yeah!
[12:02] <rittap> DHGE: i will reboot!! :)
[12:02] <rittap> see ya in a bit!
[12:02] <DHGE> it reverses the sequence in which grub sees the HDs
[12:16] <rittap> zorglu_ & DHGE: back
[12:16] <rittap> still no go
[12:17] <rittap> DHGE: what bios option did you say I should check?
[12:27] <silver_hook> Hi! I've got a sliiiiight problem - I'm a Gentoo user, but need to know how to install Kopete (0.12.1 or .2) on Kubuntu via Adept. Can anyone explain this to me? I need it to complete an article for TUX
[12:28] <zorglu_> 1. launch adept
[12:28] <zorglu_> 2. type 'kopete' in the search box
[12:28] <zorglu_> 3. select the kopete package, right click to get the pop up menu
[12:28] <zorglu_> 4. select install in the popup menu
[12:29] <zorglu_> 5. select apply change
[12:29] <silver_hook> thanks :)
[12:29] <fdoving> !info kopete dapper
[12:29] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB
[12:29] <zorglu_> and it will download and install kopete
[12:29] <silver_hook> btw, is 0.12.1 (or later) in kopete anyway?
[12:29] <fdoving> i doubt that, if you're running dapper.
[12:29] <Martijn81> 6. don't forget to get yourself a cup of coffee
[12:29] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: kopete comes with kubuntu lol
[12:30] <zorglu_> i got 0.11.1 installed
[12:30] <silver_hook> TheGateKeeper: yes, but the MUC support in Jabber is only really usable since 0.12.1 :S
[12:30] <zorglu_> i think 0.12 is in backport
[12:30] <silver_hook> zorglu_: backport?
[12:31] <zorglu_> silver_hook: a repository for the stuff which have been declared stable enought to go into dapper (the stable version)
[12:31] <zorglu_> edgy being de dev one
[12:32] <zorglu_> so it go into edgy and then into dapper
[12:32] <zorglu_> btw im not expert at those stuff, better ask on #kubuntu-devel for authoritative answer about the release process
[12:32] <silver_hook> zorglu_: so, the steps are the same only selecting "edgy" where?
[12:33] <zorglu_> silver_hook: i dont understand your quesiton, can you rephrase ?
[12:33] <TheGateKeeper> edge is the next version of kubuntu to be released at the end of the month
[12:34] <silver_hook> zorglu_: the thing is that the Kopete version to be installed *needs* to be at least 0.12.1
[12:34] <zorglu_> ah okf
[12:34] <zorglu_> ok then 1. make sure that kopete 0.12.1 is actually in backports
[12:35] <Martijn81> zorglu_: from apt-cache policy here it looks like 0.12.1 is in http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[12:35] <zorglu_> so i was wrong...
[12:35] <zorglu_> how come i only got 0.11.1 then...
[12:35] <patrick__> Octan - Do you know an alternative to M$ its ActiveSync program?
[12:35] <Martijn81> dunno
[12:35] <patrick__> Or anybody else :P
[12:36] <llogiq> ndiswrapper doesn't seem to work, :-( Maybe a reboot will do it... cu then.
[12:36] <fdoving> patrick__: multisync maybe?
[12:36] <patrick__> k
[12:37] <Martijn81> zorglu_: probably because i have kde 3.5.4 installed
[12:37] <silver_hook> Martijn81: sooo, I just follow those 5-6 steps above and it will be 0.12.1+?
[12:38] <zorglu_> Martijn81: yep, i just checked and 0.11.1 is the last available for me... but 3.5.4 is in main ?
[12:38] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: if it's the repos that you are using
[12:38] <Martijn81> no it's not, afaik
[12:39] <Jucato> octan: hi! are you there? :)
[12:39] <silver_hook> ok, i'm lost now
[12:39] <zorglu_> Martijn81: something is wrong :)
[12:39] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok the step i gave at the begining are good in anycase. now the point is to setup the repository to get this particular version of kopete
[12:40] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: well both me & zorglu_have the earlier version, if there was a latter version in the repos we would have had the updates
[12:40] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: can you identify where is kopete 0.12.1
[12:41] <Jucato> zorglu_: not on Dapper, I'm afraid
[12:41] <zorglu_> Jucato: is it in backport ? or in edgy ?
[12:41] <Jucato> zorglu_: edgy only. didn't hit dapper-backports yet
[12:42] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190273
[12:42] <patrick__> I need a little help on partition probs. I have apr.17GB on the hdd that is not used, but with qparted and things like that I cant seem to give my ubuntu the extra space... (It's 80GB total, 40 for windows and 2x17GB where 1x17 is for Kubuntu...) Any ideas?
[12:43] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok so you got 2 possibilties, either you update to edgy, but this implies a whole lot of other unstable package too, or you use an 'unofficial deb' from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190273
[12:43] <Martijn81> zorglu_: yeah my version is because of kde 3.5.4, i should've put my glasses on earlier...
[12:43] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: you do know that adept is just a gui for apt-get which uses the repos in /etc/sources.list??
[12:43] <zorglu_> silver_hook: currently 0.12.1 is not available officially for dapper (stable version). it is only available for edgy
[12:44] <silver_hook> yes, i understand so far ...like synaptic and yum were before
[12:44] <Jucato> zorglu_: actually 0.12.1 is available on Dapper. 0.12.2 is not. my mistake
[12:44] <zorglu_> silver_hook: or some people made a dapper compatible package themselves and made it available. but it is not 'official'
[12:44] <zorglu_> maouaouaoua :)
[12:44] <Jucato> sorry :(
[12:44] <zorglu_> silver_hook: so erase all that :)
[12:45] <zorglu_> Jucato: how come i dont get it via apt-get then ?
[12:45] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: I still use synaptic with kubuntu as I don't really like adept
[12:45] <Jucato> Kopete 0.12.1 is with the Kubuntu KDE 3.5.4 packages
[12:45] <Martijn81> yep
[12:45] <zorglu_> Jucato: kde 3.5.4 is not in main, no ?
[12:45] <Jucato> just add the kubuntu.org repository for kde 3.5.4
[12:45] <zorglu_> i mean is this 'in dapper' ?
[12:45] <Jucato> zorglu_: no. KDE updates are not put in main
[12:46] <Jucato> zorglu_: no, there is KDE 3.5.4 for Dapper available
[12:46] <Ash-Fox> Or you can use http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/ with the current stable
[12:46] <zorglu_> ok so lets summarize for silver_hook
[12:46] <zorglu_> silver_hook: still here ?
[12:46] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[12:46] <Martijn81> Jucato: where have you learned to type so lightning fast....
[12:47] <Jucato> hm.. in High School actually :)
[12:47] <silver_hook> zorglu_: yea, but getting more and more confuzed
[12:47] <zorglu_> silver_hook: dont worry i will summarize
[12:47] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok the 5 step to get kopete from adept remain good. you still got them ?
[12:48] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: your a gentoo person this should be childs play to you :-)
[12:48] <zorglu_> Martijn81: you can practice typing with exercice , it works real well
[12:49] <silver_hook> zorglu_: i do, yea
[12:49] <silver_hook> TheGateKeeper: it's not a problem for me to do - I've been using Debian and Slackware in my lifetime as well :P
[12:50] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok, you understand what repositories are ?
[12:50] <silver_hook> TheGateKeeper: the problem is putting this as coherently and siple as possible in an article for TUX magazine :S
[12:50] <silver_hook> zorglu_: yup
[12:50] <Martijn81> zorglu_: yeah i should do that, i have a good keyboard (happy hacking lite2) for it as well :)
[12:51] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok by default the kopete version available in dapper is 0.11.1 . to get the 0.12.1 you need to enable the kde-354 repository as it is explained in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[12:51] <Ash-Fox> or you can just update kopete by itself from http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/
[12:52] <zorglu_> silver_hook: 1. you enable the kde 3.5.4 repository 2. you update the apt-get cache via "fetch update" in adept 3. you do the 5steps given earlier
[12:52] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: it would probably work if and only if the new Kopete will work with pre-KDE 3.5.4 libs
[12:52] <silver_hook> zorglu_: ok, thnks :)
[12:53] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, it worked for me, although it's version 0.12.0
[12:53] <zorglu_> silver_hook: does this answer your question ? any other ?
[12:53] <silver_hook> zorglu_: i think it does - i'll just have to look at the bit how to add the repersitory (in a GUI) etc. :P
[12:53] <silver_hook> but yea, thanks :)
[12:53] <zorglu_> silver_hook: cool :)
[12:54] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: would it not be safer using the cli & leaving adept out of it?
[12:54] <gya> i need webcam record
[12:54] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: that couldwork :)
[12:54] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: how come?
[12:54] <silver_hook> TheGateKeeper: cli?
[12:55] <zorglu_> guys dont confuse him again :)
[12:55] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: yep just tell them to open up consol and do the following commands...
[12:55] <Jucato> silver_hook: CLI = Command Line Interface
[12:55] <silver_hook> if you ask me ...i'd probably do it with apt-get :P
[12:55] <silver_hook> oh, well ...that, yea
[12:55] <TheGateKeeper> konsol*
[12:56] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: that's what I am on about
[12:56] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: it's easier for the one giving the instructions, but bewildering to the recepient. not to mention it's actually less safe if there were typographical errors
[12:57] <Jucato> unless of course, the one asking already knows enough about apt-get or sources.list
[12:57] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: he is writting an article for tux mag, how hard is it to copy paste?
[12:57] <silver_hook> I *would* just tell them to apt-get it ...but TUX is rather strict about not using CLI
[12:58] <Samuli^> I think the gui for apt in KDE is called adept
[12:58] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: ^^^^^ does that answer your question?
[12:58] <Samuli^> or kpackage might've been another one.
[12:58] <Jucato> KPackage is the older (but IMHO more stable/reliable) one. Adept is newer and is still a bit um... new :)
[12:58] <Samuli^> kynaptic? :D
[12:59] <Jucato> Samuli^: ugh! :P
[12:59] <Samuli^> I like adept.
[12:59] <Jucato> Adept is good if you know what you're doing. otherwise...
[01:00] <fdoving> adept is good for regular users package management needs too.
[01:00] <TheGateKeeper> may be TUX should change sides to windows lol
[01:00] <Samuli^> I don't see how it's easier to bork your system with adept than it is with kpackage
[01:00] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: consider TUX's target audience
[01:00] <Jucato> fdoving: regular/more advanced users, yes. newer users?....
[01:01] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: I was that's why I suggested copy/paste lol
[01:01] <Jucato> Samuli^: for one, Adept doesn't prominently inform you of changes that will take place, nor does it ask for user confirmation
[01:02] <Samuli^> Jucato. you're probably right. I haven't use neither in a long time.
[01:02] <Quadral> I am having problems with installing Kubuntu 6.06 from LiveCD. Installer just stops at "Scanning the mirror". Any ideas what to do?
[01:02] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: since when did copy/paste become the preferred method for newbies? I must have away during that stage
[01:02] <Samuli^> jst vaguely remember that I liked adept more, for some reason :)
[01:02] <pose> i cant use kmobiletools with a bluetooth device!!
[01:02] <fdoving> Jucato: if you think of the scenario "i need package xxxx" adept is usable to new users too. imho.
[01:02] <Jucato> Samuli^: Adept is faster and quicker compared to Synaptic and KPackage. but it really requires you to know what you are doing
[01:03] <zorglu_> i love adept
[01:03] <Samuli^> I think it's good idea to to have newbies to use terminal from the start.
[01:03] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: well it is for lazy sods like me lol
[01:03] <zorglu_> i think it is the first tool which make it easy to install software
[01:03] <Samuli^> you can tell that there's a way to do it in gui, but this way is faster for you and for me to explain.
[01:03] <Jucato> don't get me wrong. Adept is quick and easy, but not for new users
[01:04] <Samuli^> and anyways, perhaps they understand that CLI is nothing like dos is in windows :)
[01:04] <pose> when releases edgy final version?
[01:04] <Jucato> fdoving, you've been in the forums. have you seen how many times people have complained about Adept removing packages without telling them?
[01:04] <Jucato> or at least not prominently informing them?
[01:04] <Samuli^> hmm, does adept use aptitude or apt as it's backend?
[01:05] <Jucato> apt
[01:05] <fdoving> Jucato: ohwell.. true :)
[01:06] <Jucato> I don't mind just telling users to copy/paste stuff. But I've encountered some people who are quite skeptical of just pasting commands. at least with GUI instructions, they see what they're doing every step of the way
[01:06] <thygrrr> how would I go about upgrading to Xorg 7.1
[01:06] <thygrrr> ?
[01:07] <TheGateKeeper> rofl
[01:07] <Jucato> thygrrr: I'm afraid no simple way to do that on Dapper afaik
[01:09] <thygrrr> Jucato, thanks.
[01:09] <cvacubo> Hello
[01:09] <fdoving> !away
[01:09] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[01:09] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: good luck
[01:10] <fdoving> silver_hook: ^^
[01:10] <Jucato> thygrrr: Edgy Eft, which will be out in a few weeks, would be using 7.1 iirc
[01:10] <silver_hook> thanks
[01:10] <thygrrr> Jucato, I might have a look at that.
[01:10] <silver_hook> btw ...the kde-3.5.4 repersitory has kopete as a separate package or will it upgrade the whole kde?
[01:11] <thygrrr> Jucato, though I'm wary of tearing down my entire working system just because one problem with LWJGL.
[01:11] <Jucato> silver_hook: it will upgrade the whole KDE. I'm not sure if 0.12.1 will work with KDE 3.5.2 packages/libs
[01:12] <silver_hook> Jucato: it works for me on Gentoo (0.12.1 and kde-3.5.2)
[01:12] <fdoving> silver_hook: if you add the kde 3.5.4 repository and use adept to upgrade, it will upgrade the whole of kde. if you use the url i gave you, you'll get kopete only.
[01:13] <Jucato> silver_hook: that's Gentoo
[01:13] <silver_hook> fdoving: the imbrandon one?
[01:13] <Jucato> fdoving: problem is if silver_hook will be putting that up in TUX, don't you think he should at least inform imbrandon first?
[01:14] <fdoving> Jucato: maybe..
[01:15] <fdoving> Jucato: i kinda think of it like "it's public, go get it"
[01:16] <Jucato> well, at least he should be informed that his server is probably going to get some heavy traffic :P
[01:16] <silver_hook> i think the bigger problem is that maybe TUX won't like it that the rep is not an official one :S
[01:16] <Jucato> well, there's also that :)
[01:16] <fdoving> silver_hook: then tell them imbrandon is a kubuntu developer.
[01:17] <fdoving> it's as close to official it getts, without being official.
[01:17] <will_> hey all
[01:17] <Jucato> hmm.....
[01:17] <will_> im a HUGE n00b to linux who needs to ask some hugely noob questions
[01:17] <Jucato> anyone running KDE 3.5.3 right now?
[01:17] <will_> only just got ubuntu installed
[01:17] <Jucato> !ask
[01:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:17] <will_> :P kk
[01:17] <fdoving> silver_hook: talking to imbrandon first, would be a good idea, he might not want you to use the packages for some reason. or he might have better suggestions. :)
[01:18] <will_> ive downloaded the firefox archive now how do i install this/get it to run and where am i supposed to put applications?
[01:18] <Jucato> silver_hook: while KDE 3.5.4 on Dapper has Kopete 0.12.1, I'm not so sure if upgrading to it would be something I'd recommend to TUX readers, at least for now...
[01:18] <will_> i feel stupid putting an application i nmy home folder
[01:18] <Jucato> will_: you don't have to do that to install Firefox. you can install it easily from Ubuntu's repositories
[01:18] <silver_hook> Jucato: that's why i asked :S
[01:19] <fdoving> Jucato: i'll support you on that, i do not recommend upgrading to the 3.5.4 packages from kubuntu.org, they have issues.
[01:19] <will_> Jucato: how would I do tht?
[01:19] <Jucato> let me check what version of Kopete that comes with KDE 3.5.3
[01:19] <KDEfanboy> fdoving: issues?
[01:19] <Jucato> !install
[01:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:19] <Jucato> will_: ^^^^
[01:19] <Jucato> KDEfanboy: some known bugs
[01:19] <Jucato> that won't probably get fixed :(
[01:20] <silver_hook> fdoving: there's only one problem with contacting imbrandon - I have to send the changes to the article in 24h :S
[01:20] <fdoving> KDEfanboy: yes, bugs,like one where kpersonalizer starts every time you login.. etc. and as jucato says they most likely won't be fixed for dapper since the focus now is the next release, edgy.
[01:21] <Jucato> well, not even after edgy probably...
[01:21] <will_> lol how do i do !install :S
[01:21] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.3/3.5.4 on Dapper isn't part of the "warranty"
[01:21] <TheGateKeeper> will_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:22] <will_> nice one :D
[01:23] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: [12:22]  <TheGateKeeper> will_: sudo apt-get install firefox  <-- notice I don't give some rambling explaination how to use adept :-)
[01:23] <fdoving> silver_hook: send him a mail - you'll find info on https://launchpad.net/people/imbrandon
[01:23] <markeib> hi! can you tell me where (KDE) icons are stored so i can manipulate them?
[01:23] <Jucato> your call, since you're the one who replied
[01:23] <will_> say i've just compiled an app and I want that to be 'installed' too, how do i do tht?
[01:24] <fdoving> markeib: /usr/share/icons/
[01:24] <TheGateKeeper> will_: use checkinstall
[01:24] <silver_hook> fdoving: thanks :)
[01:24] <fdoving> !checkinstall > will_
[01:24] <Jucato> will_: if you follow those links, there would be instructions. but for compiling, I agree with TheGateKeeper. use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[01:24] <markeib> thank you!
[01:24] <TheGateKeeper> will_: you are using a bianry distro so it should be unneccessary
[01:24] <will_> thx alot :D
[01:25] <Jucato> markeib: /usr/share/icons for those installed by the admin/root (using sudo or Adept/apt-get/etc) and ~/.kde/share/icons for those installed by the user
[01:25] <TheGateKeeper> will_: if you like compiling stuff use gentoo or sourcemage :-)
[01:25] <will_> ok...
[01:26] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: so you mean I can't stay on Kubuntu if I like to compile stuff?
[01:26] <TheGateKeeper> will_: you might this usefull too
[01:26] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee! :)
[01:27] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: not what I said, waste of cpu cycles lol
[01:27] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[01:27] <will_> now tht ive installed firefox i cant seem to find it :S
[01:28] <will_> how do i get it into my kde menu thingy
[01:28] <will_> lol almost said start menu there
[01:28] <markeib> ok Jucato if i copy a folder in ~/.kde/share/icons will it be recognised as an installed theme?
[01:28] <TheGateKeeper> will_: try logging out then back in
[01:28] <Hobbsee> will_: either add it manually, or run kappfinder.
[01:28] <Hobbsee> that works too
[01:28] <will_> kk
[01:28] <Jucato> markeib: I'm not  totally sure
[01:29] <Jucato> but probably yes
[01:29] <markeib> i'll just try ^^
[01:29] <markeib> but how do i copy directories?
[01:30] <Jucato> markeib: but you can install fonts that come in .tar.gz files (archives) easily using System Settings > Appearance > Icons
[01:30] <will_> thx all :D
[01:30] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=28559&highlight=portage <---- have fun :-)
[01:31] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: I said "if"
[01:33] <Jucato> fdoving: are you still around?
[01:34] <inful> Hi
[01:34] <inful> Small question for those who know the answer:)
[01:37] <inful> Me and my wife is usually logged in on the same machine (two vt's), my wife has an iPod, but it is automounted some times  with her user permissions, some times with mine. Is there any way to let HAL set permissions on the iPod (or any usb storage device) acording to device id or something like that?
[01:37] <fdoving> Jucato: somehow.
[01:39] <Jucato> fdoving: oh ok... do you somehow have/know of a guide about setting up an internal ftp? two machines, Linux and Windows... (related to the problem earlier)
[01:39] <inful> (This is even more irritating with my SE-W300i, as it shows up as two devices, and they are usually mounted with two different uids)
[01:39] <tmdx120> Hello, does anyone know how to get a palm to sync with dapper?
[01:40] <Mantits> use a mouse
[01:40] <Mantits> tmdx120: use a mouse
[01:40] <inful> tmdx120: I've used kpilot
[01:40] <fdoving> Jucato: ftp-server? install vsftpd, and set listen_address to the local address of the linux box. (not the public one).
[01:41] <tmdx120> Mantits: ???
[01:41] <Jucato> fdoving: the local addresss would be <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:41] <Mantits> Mouse is human interface device for hand
[01:41] <zorglu_> more like 192.168.*
[01:41] <tmdx120> inful: thats what im using.
[01:41] <Jucato> fdoving: how could I communicate/transfer files to the Windows box?
[01:41] <inful> tmdx120: I've used it with a Tungsten E2
[01:42] <tmdx120> Mantits: I know what  a mouse is. Im trying got sync my palm pilot.
[01:42] <Jucato> zorglu_: oh ok
[01:42] <tmdx120> inful: I have a m505
[01:42] <zorglu_> Jucato: or <IP_ADDRESS> which mean 'any address'
[01:42] <Jucato> ok
[01:42] <tmdx120> inful: it is "unable to read system information" on my device.
[01:43] <|lostbyte|> Hi Guys.
[01:43] <inful> tmdx120: Never seen that error myself AFAIK
[01:44] <tmdx120> inful: AFAIK? Im a newbie
[01:44] <inful> tmdx120: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-pim&m=103462554922010&w=2
[01:44] <Jucato> tmdx120: AFAIK means "As Far As I Know"
[01:45] <tmdx120> Jucato: thanks.
[01:45] <tmdx120> inful: thanks for the info, ill work on  it.
[01:46] <fdoving> Jucato: with a ftp-client from windows.
[01:46] <Jucato> ah
[01:46] <fdoving> Jucato: if you want easy filesharing from/to windows, i'd recommend samba
[01:47] <Jucato> fdoving: I tried that earlier, it was soooo fscking slow. don't know why. probably because of the IP masquerade thing?
[01:47] <Jucato> my (wired) ethernet card's speed is 10/100 mbps I think
[01:47] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, How slow ?
[01:47] <fdoving> no, nat shouln't make a difference.
[01:48] <Jucato> hm... more than 5 minutes to copy 1.4MB? and stalling most of the time until the operation sort of timed out
[01:48] <fdoving> thats not normal.
[01:48] <|lostbyte|> :-o
[01:48] <Jucato> right now, I can't even connect to the laptop.. smb://mshome results in Timeout on server
[01:48] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, COuld be a defected wire.
[01:49] <Jucato> hm.. the laptop is happily connected to the internet through my Linux box...
[01:49] <Quadral> I am having problems with installing Kubuntu 6.06 from LiveCD. Installer just stops at "Scanning the mirror". Any ideas what to do?
[01:50] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, try the ip of the remote pc.
[01:50] <Jucato> |lostbyte|: remote pc = Windows XP laptop?
[01:50] <|lostbyte|> Quadral, give it some time there. how long have you waited ?
[01:51] <Jucato> |lostbyte|: ah there yes I can see XP again...
[01:51] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, For windows right click on the icon in the notification bar to get the ip.
[01:52] <Hobbsee> Quadral: idiot question:  do you actually have a working internet connection there?
[01:52] <Jucato> lol!! would you be surprised if what I did was launch "cmd" and type in "ipconfig"?
[01:52] <tmdx120> inful: FIXED. THANKS!!!
[01:52] <Jucato> ok still stalling and still slow...
[01:52] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, :) .. anyways. just use the Xp box ip in konqueror. with smb://
[01:53] <inful> tmdx120: Good! Happy syncing:)
[01:53] <Quadral> i don't think internet is working yet since it need to enable wireless card
[01:53] <Quadral> don't know why it doesn't just skip this step
[01:56] <uppis> stand by...
[01:56] <thygrrr> What are the OpenGL and Video Overlay lines in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf for precisely? :)
[01:57] <Jucato> fdoving: trying out vsftpd. how do Iknow the local IP of this Linux box?
[02:00] <tommy_> damn kubuntu rox
[02:00] <tommy_> installed and everything works from the start
[02:00] <tommy_> sound video everything
[02:00] <tommy_> never seen something like that :p
[02:01] <j2daosh> what is the command for adding samba users?
[02:02] <fdoving> Jucato: the output of 'ip addr' will tell you
[02:03] <fdoving> j2daosh: first you need to have the users added to the system (system settings -> users & groups) - then the command is 'smbpasswd -a username' to add users.
[02:04] <fdoving> Jucato: addresses starting with 10., 192.168., 172.16. are private addresses.
[02:04] <Jucato> ah ok got that :)
[02:05] <Jucato> I just add "listen_address=<ip address>" at the end of vsftpd.conf right?
[02:05] <fdoving> Jucato: correct.
[02:06] <Jucato> then using an ftp client on windows, I go to ftp://<ip address of linux box> ??
[02:07] <josh_> what is the command to restart samba?
[02:08] <lupine_85>  /etc/init.d/samba restart ?
[02:08] <lupine_85> it might not be called samba - check the dir for appropriate alternatives
[02:08] <josh_> /usr/sbin/smbd -restart :)
[02:08] <fdoving> Jucato: correct.
[02:09] <lupine_85> oh, alright then ;)
[02:09] <lupine_85> no - though, surely
[02:09] <fdoving> lupine_85: it's named samba :)
[02:10] <josh_> actually you were correct lupine
[02:10] <josh_> i dont know what the hell i just restarted....
[02:10] <josh_> oh well
[02:11] <Jucato> fdoving: any FTP Client you would recommend on windows?
[02:12] <josh_> use fireftp
[02:12] <josh_> or firezilla if you dont want an ftp extension inyour browser
[02:12] <Jucato> josh_: firezilla is an extension for firefox?
[02:12] <fdoving> i prefer some cygwin commandlinestuff :)
[02:13] <Jucato> ah ok
[02:13] <josh_> fireftp is an extension... standalone is firezilla
[02:14] <josh_> i have to figure out how to share my drive
[02:14] <josh_> the people in the samba room dont speak so they weren't any help
[02:15] <Jucato> sharing using smb:/ here is sooo slow... that's why I'm trying an ftp solution... :(
[02:15] <Samuli^> josh_ man smb.conf ?
[02:15] <fdoving> josh_: get the kdenetwork-filesharing package. and rightclick -> share.
[02:15] <Samuli^> :)
[02:15] <Samuli^> or man samba, I don't know if there is manpages for configuration files.
[02:15] <josh_> yeah i have it shared out already... but it fails at authentication from other boxes
[02:15] <Samuli^> ach, windows?
[02:15] <josh_> i have made a smbpasswd username
[02:15] <Jucato> man smb.conf actually
[02:16] <Samuli^> what did I say?
[02:16] <josh_> it just wont let me connect from a mac or windows
[02:24] <vikke> hello, im having this problem when im trying to ./configure a source, configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:25] <fdoving> vikke: you need the package 'xorg-dev'
[02:26] <arejaytee> is there a command i can use to see where most space is being used on a drive? im quite suprised im using 23 gig of this 27gig hd lol
[02:26] <Jucato> df -h
[02:26] <vikke> fdoving: whew that was alot, but now another error poped up
[02:27] <arejaytee> yeah using that already Jucato :)
[02:27] <Jucato> um..
[02:27] <arejaytee> i know where 13 gig of it is, just suprised the rest would be the install of kubuntu lol
[02:27] <fdoving> du
[02:27] <Jucato> have you tried Filelight? (GUI)
[02:27] <Jucato> oh that one, du
[02:27] <arejaytee> hrrmm nope
[02:27] <fdoving> arejaytee: open konqueror, browse to /
[02:28] <Jucato> !filelight
[02:28] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[02:29] <fdoving> arejaytee: open konqueror, browse to /, on the menubar find 'view -> view mode -> file size view'
[02:29] <vikke> !QT
[02:29] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[02:29] <arejaytee> hrmm k
[02:29] <Jucato> vikke: you might also need to install kde-devel
[02:30] <arejaytee> fudge thats cool
[02:30] <vikke> jucato: thats possible, but its complaining about im not having qt, but everything seems broken
[02:31] <Jucato> vikke: Qt is already installed, but probably not the development packages you need to compile
[02:31] <fdoving> vikke: you need libqt3-mt-dev
[02:32] <vikke> fdoving: yes, ive tried, installing kde-devel, libqt3-mt-dev, and lots of other packages i apparently need for this but it seems everything is broken
[02:33] <arejaytee> thanks fdoving
[02:33] <arejaytee> and Jucato as always lol
[02:33] <arejaytee> i think i was gotmilk last time though
[02:33] <fdoving> vikke: what is it you're compiling?
[02:34] <vikke> fdoving: right now? dekorator, i know i can install it through apt but i get the same error on nativekde themes too i think
[02:36] <Jucato> fdoving: using fireftp, it says "vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root". what does that mean or what do I do?
[02:37] <fdoving> Jucato: that means vsftpd refuses to start when the anonymous root directory,  is writable i guess. (try changing the owneship to root.root on that directory)
[02:37] <Jucato> ok thanks
[02:44] <Jucato> ok this is getting hopeless.. :(
[02:44] <Jucato> er.. I'm getting hopeless I mean
[02:44] <xdemon> !sound
[02:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:45] <Jucato> !ftp
[02:45] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:45] <xdemon> i have problem with sound
[02:46] <xdemon> soundmax, integrated in asus p4p800se
[02:46] <thiago_> kiss
[02:46] <thiago_> hjy gouyi poulosk pet jiump most
[02:46] <heinkel_111> xdemon what is the problem with it?
[02:47] <heinkel_111> i have  soundmax
[02:47] <xdemon> xine cannot ... drivers
[02:47] <xdemon> initialise
[02:47] <heinkel_111> in asus m2n-sli motherboard
[02:47] <heinkel_111> mine works just fine
[02:47] <xdemon> i have problem only with mp3 players
[02:47] <heinkel_111> does it work with oether sound engines?
[02:48] <heinkel_111> oss, alasa etc?
[02:48] <heinkel_111> alsa?
[02:48] <xdemon> all
[02:48] <heinkel_111> no sound at all?
[02:48] <thiago_> bonjour ava?
[02:48] <xdemon> only mp3s and music... system sound working...
[02:49] <fdoving> !mp3 > xdemon
[02:53] <Tokeiito> every time i need to create vhost for my project in apache2 i need to add it to hosts file
[02:53] <Tokeiito> is there ability to add smth like *.host to hosts?
[02:53] <fdoving> like a wildcard=
[02:53] <fdoving> ?
[02:54] <Tokeiito> yes
[02:54] <Tokeiito> becose all my vhosts are: site1.localhost site2.localhost and etc.
[02:55] <fdoving> don't think /etc/hosts can do that.
[02:55] <fdoving> have to go. bye.
[02:56] <Jucato> sob...
[02:56] <Jucato> octan: ping?
[02:57] <tk> interesting.. why would 1 partition not show up in "df" but its accessible?
[02:57] <rambo3> ghanas wright wing
[02:57] <Jucato> clear
[02:58] <tk> and its not even showing up in mount.... but its accessible
[02:58] <Jucato> er.. sorry about that...
[02:59] <xdemon> how i can install mp3 codecs?
[02:59] <tk> !mp3 > xdemon
[02:59] <rambo3> only ubotu knows
[02:59] <Jucato> xdemon: first enable the "multiverse" repository
[02:59] <Jucato> !multiverse
[02:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:00] <Jucato> ^^^^^
[03:00] <Jucato> then look for "libxine-extracodecs"
[03:00] <tk> ohh, heh, you already seen the mp3 one earlier
[03:00] <xdemon> oh
[03:00] <xdemon> yes
[03:00] <tk> hmmm I should probably go find out what time my bus leaves
[03:03] <xdemon> ok
[03:03] <xdemon> installed
[03:03] <xdemon> but racoon cannot installs
[03:04] <xdemon> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
[03:04] <xdemon> !xmms encoding
[03:04] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[03:05] <xdemon> !webmin
[03:05] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:05] <xdemon> heh
[03:05] <xdemon> i using it
[03:07] <bluch> hello, where can i find a good looking system monitor
[03:07] <tk> depending on what you wanna monitor, SuperKaramba has some sys mon type stuff
[03:08] <root> KSysGuard?
[03:08] <arejaytee> hrmm what can i use to unrar files ? lol
[03:08] <Jucato> !unrar
[03:09] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:09] <root> why am i root? :P brb
[03:09] <Jucato> arejaytee: just install "unrar" and use Ark
[03:09] <arejaytee> k
[03:10] <bluch> hmm, well i have seen some pictures, from kde-look but i don't know the name of that monitor
[03:10] <arejaytee> and if i had just tried to open them with ark it would have told me lol
[03:11] <r4sCaL> could someone please help me with getting the dccserver port 59 to work? any links or suggestions?
[03:12] <bluch> i want a system monitor that is allways vissible
[03:13] <rambo3> why would i want to click on X button to minimize every program.. damn kde
[03:14] <Jucato> ?
[03:14] <Jucato> bluch: System Guard Panel Applet? (right-click Panel > Add Applet to Panel > System Guard) ?
[03:15] <tk> rambo3: probably the same reason XGL/Beryl setups up functions that use ctrl+scroll wheel  when browsers already (and some text programs) make use of this... *grumbles*
[03:17] <Shinku>  I just spent the last twenty minutes rubbing a twelve year old girl's bare chest.
[03:17] <Shinku> shit
[03:17] <Shinku> wrong channel
[03:18] <Jucato> O_O
[03:18] <rambo3> wannabes want to get on bash.org
[03:19] <r4sCaL> has anyone here managed to download from someone in irc using port 59?
[03:19] <r4sCaL> (using konversation)
[03:24] <tk> r4sCaL: does Konversation even support remote DCC's?
[03:25] <tk> r4sCaL: from what I see, it doesnt support remote DCC like mIRC does.... (its not a standard DCC thing AFAIK)
[03:33] <xdemon> !kompile
[03:33] <ubotu> kompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 320 kB
[03:33] <Jucato> is it possible to connect a Linux PC and an XP laptop using USB and transfer files?
[03:34] <Samuli^> I doubt that with usb.
[03:34] <Samuli^> but who knows
[03:35] <tk> Jucato: I wouldnt doubt it.... shouldnt me much diff than a null modem link....
[03:35] <Samuli^> that would be pretty cool if it works.
[03:35] <r4sCaL> tk: I heard that there were some work arounds where you can set the port range to any number and then forward port 59 to the port you chose, but I can't figure out how to do that or find a guide that explains it. Maybe it just won't work though...
[03:36] <Jucato> tk: that means it's possible? my NIC is only 10/100 mbps, and transferring 300+ MB doesn't go beyond 1MB without stalling...
[03:36] <Martijn81> Jucato: i think there are usb cables with some chip in the middle of the cable, where both computer think the other computer is just an external station. But i could easily be another windows only mess...
[03:36] <Martijn81> *it
[03:36] <Jucato> ah.. :(
[03:36] <tk> Jucato: I said I wouldnt doubt that its possible, I'm fairly certain I've seen setups for Windows that u.... yah what Martijn81 said :P
[03:36] <m4x1mum> where does opera store the skin?
[03:37] <Jucato> m4x1mum: try ~/.opera ?
[03:37] <Martijn81> yeah, not sure if it will work, maybe i should just buy one and test it out
[03:37] <Jucato> heh.. I would make sure it works first before buying one... PC peripherals don't come cheap here... :(
[03:37] <tk> but... I've also seen 9pin serial -> usb adapters which means you could do usb->9pin->null modem.... ->9pin->usb.....
[03:38] <tk> but the null modem cable might have the workings for the data xfer... never investigated the workings of those
[03:38] <tk> havent used one in 8 years
[03:39] <m4x1mum> aaah nevermind i found it, its in /usr/share....
[03:41] <Jucato> hm...
[03:41] <Martijn81> i use samba and a switch though, never got me any problems
[03:42] <Martijn81> Jucato: on BIG file, and the file size says ...TB then? If so: it /looks/ like it's stalling, but it isn't
[03:43] <m4x1mum> how do i check if the internet connection is working or not? is there any software that keep track of that?
[03:43] <m4x1mum> like in windows there is the connection icon
[03:43] <ubuntu__> go to the console and try a ping
[03:43] <Jucato> Martijn81: TB?
[03:44] <Jucato> Martijn81: it actually stops saying something like the file cannot be copied to the Shared Directory
[03:44] <Martijn81> yeah, some thousand TeraByte :p
[03:44] <Jucato> nah it correctly sees it as a few hundred MB's
[03:44] <soulrider> hi
[03:44] <soulrider> !cpu
[03:45] <ubotu> cpu: a console based LDAP user management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-8 (dapper), package size 137 kB, installed size 432 kB
[03:45] <Martijn81> i see... no i never got that problem yet
[03:45] <Jucato> :(
[03:45] <Jucato> even FTP seems to time out...
[03:45] <Jucato> anyway... I'm doing it the hard way, at least for today...
[03:45] <soulrider> is anyone else having CPU use issues? i look at my CPU usage graph and it looks like a snake =/
[03:45] <soulrider> and im running the apps i allways ran
[03:45] <Jucato> brb
[03:46] <Martijn81> hehe, yeah we'll get there anyways
[03:48] <ubuntu__> total n00b here, quick Q: where in ubuntu do i activate my tv-out? :)
[03:48] <ubuntu__> only screen settings i find is the resolution
[03:53] <m4x1mum> ooh crap, whats the url for the normal konquerer?
[03:53] <m4x1mum> default homepage i meant
[03:54] <thunderstorm> hi@all
[03:55] <thunderstorm> somewhere use the krusader?
[03:55] <thunderstorm> i have a question about it
[03:55] <thunderstorm> i want to use it as ftp-client-software
[03:56] <inam> not exactly a kubuntu question... i've written a very simple helloworld program in C... need to compile it and then make it... would appreciate any help :)
[03:56] <thunderstorm> if i transfer files to a ftp-server
[03:57] <m4x1mum> you need gcc installed
[03:57] <inam> ive installed gcc-4.0
[03:57] <thunderstorm> i have the problem, that the rights of these files where changed
[03:57] <inam> i dont know how to create a "makefile" :(
[03:57] <thunderstorm> the files must have 644
[03:57] <m4x1mum> aah makefile, i forgot how to do that unfortunately
[03:58] <inam> oh !
[03:58] <SonicChao> Is there a program that can alert you when it's a certain time?
[03:58] <Hellvie> how to mount an iso image?
[03:58] <Mantits> strongbad alarm clock
[03:58] <m4x1mum> !mountiso
[03:58] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:59] <inam> is there any other irc channel where i could go to with my question ?
[03:59] <SonicChao> Mantits: hmm?
[03:59] <mrdarcy> lists
[03:59] <Jucato> m4x1mum: Help > Konqueror Introduction
 Is there a program that can alert you when it's a certain time?|<Mantits> strongbad alarm clock
[03:59] <mrdarcy> anybody here know perl 5?
[03:59] <vikke> err, i dont know whats going on really, but i was trying to install compiz, then i needed to edit the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc document (ive done that before), and its not how i should be :S, kdmrc merely contains 78 lines of code and not the line i was there to replace
[04:00] <SonicChao> Mantits: That doesn't exactly help, A) I don't have a link, B) I don't know if it's in repos or not, etc.
[04:00] <Mantits> http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Strong_Bad_Clock
[04:00] <m4x1mum> aah and how do i set it to be the default homepage?
[04:00] <Mantits> You could use WINE
[04:00] <Jucato> SonicChao: KOrganizer? KAlarm?
[04:00] <bluch> !karamba
[04:00] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[04:01] <SonicChao> Jucato: I tried typing "kalarm" in terminal before, but it did nothing
[04:01] <SonicChao> Mantits: >> Wine for an app I'm going to have open for a while?
[04:01] <Jucato> SonicChao: of course you'd need to have it installed?
[04:01] <SonicChao> Jucato: Isn't it part of the default install?
[04:01] <Jucato> SonicChao: you can use KOrganizer (KDE Calendar) from Kontact
[04:01] <Jucato> afaik, no
[04:02] <SonicChao> Jucato: Then I'll install it...
[04:02] <Jucato> m4x1mum: Settings > Save View Profile > check Save URL in profile. (Make sure that you only have one tab open and that it's set to the Konqueror Introduction page
[04:02] <SonicChao> Jucato: You were right, it is not default
[04:02] <Jucato> SonicChao: why not KOrganizer? it has a reminder daemon too
[04:02] <SonicChao> Jucato: I don
[04:03] <SonicChao> 't use Kontact
[04:03] <octan> morning
[04:03] <Jucato> SonicChao: you can launch KOrganizer separately from Kontact, you know
[04:03] <octan> Jucato, pong
[04:03] <SonicChao> Jucato: No, didn't know that.
[04:03] <Jucato> SonicChao: well now you do :)
[04:04] <thunderstorm> i need help with the software krusader - somewhere knows it?
[04:04] <Lechero> hi boys
[04:04] <m4x1mum> aaah thanks
[04:04] <Lechero> yes, krusader is like total commander
[04:04] <Jucato> octan: hi! I gave up on FTP... :(
[04:04] <octan> why ?
[04:04] <thunderstorm> Lechero: you know it?
[04:04] <SonicChao> Jucato: XD Well, I already installed KAlarm
[04:04] <Lechero> thunderstorm: i know it
[04:04] <Jucato> if transferring files using samba stalls then stops, using FTP does the same after some time...
[04:04] <thunderstorm> Lechero: i want to use it for ftp
[04:05] <octan> hmm
[04:05] <thunderstorm> Lechero: but i have this problem: locally the files have these rights: -rw-r--r--
[04:05] <SonicChao> Jucato: Ok, figured it out. =3 Thanks
[04:05] <octan> Jucato, konqueror can do that with samba too :p
[04:06] <Jucato> octan: yeah that's what I'm doing with smb:/
[04:06] <Lechero> thunderstorm: i am sorry i only use krusador for local files, for ftp i use konqueror :(
[04:06] <thunderstorm> thunderstorm: if i transfer these files to my ftp-server, krusader change the rights so: -rw-------
[04:06] <Jucato> but I don't know why it keeps on stalling..
[04:06] <octan> it sounds odd
[04:07] <Jucato> very odd... or is it because my NIC is only 10/100 mbps?
[04:07] <Hellvie> and how to convert img to iso?
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Hellvie: An .img file is basically nothing more than an .iso
[04:08] <Hellvie> hmm
[04:08] <Hellvie> i cant mount it :(
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Hellvie: You can mount the .img file just like an .iso and view it or add things to it
[04:09] <Hellvie> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,
[04:09] <Danker> How to list groups and users from konsole?
[04:09] <Hawkwind> Hellvie: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /full/path/to/foo.iso /mnt/some/mount/point/you/created
[04:09] <Hellvie> thats what i get
[04:09] <Danker> console8
[04:09] <Hellvie> tried it
[04:09] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good morning :)
[04:09] <Jucato> Hawkwind: hi! :)
[04:10] <Danker> For me its almost evening :)
[04:10] <Lechero> Fidel has cancer
[04:11] <deiu_cosma> hi
[04:11] <m4x1mum> does cedega use some serial number to install?
[04:12] <deiu_cosma> who know how install GNOME on Kubuntu?
[04:12] <LjL> deiu_cosma: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:12] <Jucato> deiu_cosma: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" or "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:13] <deiu_cosma> ok
[04:13] <deiu_cosma> thanks
[04:13] <LjL> deiu_cosma: yeah better do it with aptitude -- you'll be able to remove it easier
[04:13] <LjL> !aptitude
[04:13] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:13] <Tokeiito> !printers
[04:13] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:13] <Monque> where is xorg.conf stored
[04:13] <Monque> I screwed it up
[04:13] <Jucato> Monque: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:13] <inam> m4x1mum, i just said "gcc-4.0 helloworld.c" and it gave me a a.out ! and if i run it, i get "hello world" on the konsole :))
[04:13] <Monque> thanks
[04:15] <Hellvie> hmm i still get errors whem mounting that img :|
[04:16] <m4x1mum> what is the latest version of cedega?
[04:16] <Monque> ok
[04:17] <Monque> so somehow my xorg.conf identifies my card as an ati card
[04:17] <Monque> but has the nvidia driver
[04:18] <Monque> my card isan original geforce btw
[04:18] <Monque> any ideas?
[04:18] <B-Minus> does anyone know a good network scanner ? so i can put in 2 ip ranges and it scans all ranges in between ?
[04:19] <Jucato> Monque: did you install the nvidia driver?
[04:19] <Monque> Jucato: thats what screwed it up
[04:19] <Monque> where is my backup saved?
[04:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy Folks!
[04:20] <Jucato> Monque: what do you mean "screwed up"?
[04:20] <Monque> x wont start up
[04:20] <Monque> when i try it shows the first loading thing, but with no dialog
[04:20] <Jucato> Monque: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[04:21] <Monque> I need legacy drivers
[04:21] <Jucato> I think you didn't install the linux-restricted-drivers?
[04:21] <Monque> could be it
[04:21] <Jucato> Monque: it has instructions there for legacy drivers
[04:21] <Jucato> btw, what GeForce is your card?
[04:21] <Monque> geforce 1
[04:21] <Monque> lol
[04:21] <Monque> I need to get into kde first
[04:22] <maryen|hiding> monque, to revert to normal x settings in dapper, type "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[04:22] <Jucato> oh. never knew it was legacy already
[04:25] <Monque> thanks
[04:25] <maryen|hiding> np
[04:29] <charlie> hi
[04:34] <vikke> i dont know if its just me, but i think my /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc document has totally changed, i was going to replace a line of code, when i noticed it didnt exist, and the document only contained 90 lines of code, i remeber it contained like 550 lines
[04:35] <Jucato> 550 lines?
[04:35] <Jucato> isn't that a bit overkill for a config file?
[04:35] <arunkale> hey people
[04:35] <arunkale> hey jucato
[04:35] <Jucato> hi arunkale
[04:36] <vikke> ah here, if found someone pasted it how i thought it used to look http://pastebin.ca/78296
[04:36] <arunkale> how's it going?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Jucato: By default mine is 564 lines actually
[04:37] <Jucato> huh?
[04:37] <vikke> whatver, mine merely contain 80, im confused
[04:37] <Jucato> kdmrc?
[04:38] <Jucato> how can that be?
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Look at yours.  I have never touched mine and mine has 564 lines currently
[04:39] <Jucato> 78 lines
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Wow, very odd indeed
[04:40] <Jucato>  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc ?
[04:40] <Hawkwind> Heck, the first 62 lines are commented out in that file
[04:41] <gnomefreak> mine is 564 lines default
[04:41] <Jucato> but still... 500+ lines?
[04:41] <Hawkwind>  564,1         Bot
[04:41] <Hawkwind> That's directly from vi
[04:41] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yep.  It's like that in Mandriva as well
[04:41] <jody> hey can anyone tell me what package the "strings" utility is in?
[04:41] <Jucato> ok.. mine is just weird then
[04:41] <Hawkwind> Goes to show how bloated KDE is I guess :P
[04:42] <gnomefreak> Jucato: you want a normal file? ill pastebin it
[04:42] <Jucato> nah
[04:43] <Jucato> why would I need 500+ lines if 78 lines work fine?
[04:43] <vikke> but im trying to install compiz, and it says i need to replace a line in kdmrc witch dont exist apparently
[04:49] <TheHighChild> Hey guys, does anyone know if it's possible to run Linux inside or alongside of Windows (simultaneosly)
[04:49] <Jucato> vmware
[04:49] <vliegendehuiskat> xen
[04:49] <Jucato> qemu (er...)
[04:49] <vliegendehuiskat> but I don't have any experience with it
[04:49] <TheHighChild> They make VMware for Windows?
[04:49] <vliegendehuiskat> though xen requires doublecore
[04:49] <Jucato> TheHighChild: yes
[04:49] <B-Minus> hmm
[04:49] <Jucato> you can run Linux on Windows or Windows on Linux with VMWare
[04:50] <B-Minus> is there a bandwidth monitor included in kubuntu ?
[04:50] <TheHighChild> ok, I'll check it out. I have to use WIndows for work but it's just too retarded, I'd like to be able to crack open a terminal and whatnot, without Cygwin
[04:50] <TheHighChild> thanks Jucato
[04:50] <Hawkwind> vliegendehuiskat: Xen does not require double core
[04:51] <TheHighChild> It's a high-spec DC machine, so I'm sure it will run fine. I was curious becase I saw a proof of concept with running Knoppix on XP, wasn't sure if it was developed beyond that
[04:51] <vliegendehuiskat> It doesn't?
[04:51] <vliegendehuiskat> allright
[04:52] <vliegendehuiskat> than I should really go have a look at it when i've got time
[04:53] <larsbjar> In konqueror I activated something called "share this directory on the web". Now I got this blue globe logo on my panel managing my shared folders. How do I stop this service?
[04:54] <larsbjar> :(
[04:55] <Hawkwind> larsbjar: Right click on it maybe ?
[04:56] <larsbjar> Hawkwind: :) nope.  It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:58] <Hawkwind> josh_: Follow that how-to, it's quick and simple and will save you trouble
[04:58] <josh__> !mp3
[04:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <Hawkwind> josh_: It's best to not use checkinstall at all.  It can and has destroyed systems before
[04:59] <Dr_willis> sounds like a bug. :)
[04:59] <claudio> when i try to compile kernel and I do make menuconfig
[04:59] <claudio> i get an error
[04:59] <claudio> ncurses
[04:59] <LjL> claudio: install linncurses5-dev
[04:59] <LjL> lib even
[04:59] <claudio> how?
[04:59] <LjL> !info libncurses5-dev
[04:59] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1276 kB, installed size 5904 kB
[04:59] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: It's just the way checkinstall is coded.  It's a horribly coded product that shouldn't be made available, as well as yada
[04:59] <LjL> claudio: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[05:00] <claudio> apt-get intall libncurses5-dev
[05:00] <LjL> !yada
[05:00] <ubotu> yada: Yet Another Debianisation Aid. In component main, is optional. Version 0.48 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 220 kB
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  sort of like automatix eh. :)
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Please query the bot and do the commands there instead of filling up the channel unnecessarily
[05:00] <Dr_willis> but worse since its in MAIN,
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: Hah, pretty much
[05:00] <claudio> to install xchat
[05:00] <claudio> how can i do?
[05:01] <LjL> claudio: sudo apt-get install xchat?
[05:01] <Hawkwind> claudio: sudo apt-get install xchat but you need universe
[05:01] <Dr_willis> ive noticed that ubuntu reops are slowly thinnin gout a lot of the packates
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Since xchat is in univese and xchat-gnome is in main for some goofy reason
[05:01] <Dr_willis> claudio,  you may want to read a few of the starter guides on ubuntu/kubuntu homepage..
[05:01] <Dr_willis> the add/remove programs icon in the menu :P is handy as well.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> xchat-gnome - is nasty. :)
[05:02] <Dr_willis> i compiled xchat 2.4 from source and use that
[05:02] <LjL> and perhaps if you don't know how to install packages, you should stay clear of compiling your own kernel for now.
[05:02] <claudio> i must get sources from the official xchat website?
[05:02] <LjL> no
[05:02] <Dr_willis> LjL,  heh - i was thinking that as well.
[05:02] <LjL> enable universe, and run sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:02] <LjL> !universe > claudio
[05:02] <claudio> what is universe?
[05:02] <LjL> claudio: the link explains it
[05:03] <claudio> what link?
[05:03] <LjL> claudio: the link that Ubotu gave you
[05:05] <claudio> http://rafb.net/paste/results/fdM7RB66.html
[05:05] <claudio> what is this?
[05:05] <LjL> claudio: "universe" is a software repository of Ubuntu. another such repository is "main". "main" is enabled by default, since it contains only packages that are officially supported by the Ubuntu team. "universe" does not, so it is disabled by default.
[05:06] <LjL> claudio: an error message during compilation of a kernel ;)
[05:06] <LjL> perhaps - just a guess - you're compiling the kernel with gcc 4, while the kernel still only supports gcc 3?
[05:06] <diego> hey i have downloaded some themes from kde-look.org but don't know how to install them
[05:07] <Jucato> !theme
[05:07] <Dr_willis> because ya then have toexplain how the theme system works. :P
[05:07] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:07] <Jucato> er nope. not those...
[05:07] <LjL> !changethemes
[05:07] <Jucato> Dr_willis: yeah, hope it becomes better in KDE4...
[05:07] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[05:07] <claudio> LjL: when I tried compiling to mdk, it done succeesfully
[05:07] <Hawkwind> diego: You can do it in kcontrol
[05:07] <claudio> on kubuntu, i get this error
[05:08] <Jucato> whoa... that's a link to what I wrote! :)
[05:08] <Dr_willis> diego,  often the kde 'themes' are made of 3 different parts.. ya got the kde  window border themes, the  internal widget themes, and the icon themes.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> diego,  depending on the theme, you can drag/drop the downlaoded package to the theme manager. (for icon themes)
[05:08] <diego> Hawkwind: i cvlick on Install new themes but it filters all file i have downloaded
[05:08] <Jucato> Dr_willis: some of the confusion is caused by kde-look's categories actually
[05:08] <Dr_willis> the others may need to be uncompresed and compiled/installed
[05:08] <Jucato> !changethemes
[05:08] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[05:08] <Jucato> diego: ^^^^^
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  i agree there
[05:09] <pielgrzym> !metasploit
[05:09] <claudio> LjL: how can i solve this problem?
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metasploit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <Dr_willis> diego,  you do relize thhat there are a lot of kde themes in the package manager, thats not isntlled by default?  about a dozen or so.
[05:09] <diego> hmm ok sorry gnna try all this
[05:09] <LjL> claudio: i haven't the slightest idea. i've stopped compiling kernels after finding out that distributions usually do it better than myself
[05:10] <claudio> LjL: I must do this because I must install patch to open squash fs images
[05:11] <Dr_willis> sounds like you got a lot of learning to do first claudio
[05:11] <uwo> !edgy
[05:11] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:11] <Dr_willis> claudio,  you may want to just try edgy and see if the new kernel has that feature all ready in there.
[05:11] <uwo> !schedule
[05:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:11] <LjL> claudio: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Squashfs
[05:12] <Dr_willis> i wonder if that FUSE stuff has a squashfs   add on.
[05:12] <LjL> claudio: doesn't look like you need a custom kernel for that
[05:12] <claudio> no no
[05:12] <claudio> it is a patch with LZMA compression
[05:12] <claudio> not only squash compression
[05:12] <claudio> squash+LZMA
[05:13] <claudio> http://mcmcc.bat.ru/dlinkt/linux-2.6.9-squashfs-2.1_lzma-mc1.patch
[05:13] <claudio> this is the patch
[05:13] <LjL> looks like it is a patch for the 2.6.9 kernel, though
[05:13] <LjL> what's your kernel?
[05:13] <claudio> 2.6.15
[05:14] <claudio> but wont to compile to 2.6.9
[05:14] <claudio> but I get an error
[05:14] <Hawkwind> Why would you want to go backwards to a much older kernel ?
[05:14] <Mantits> I just downloaded an wrote the dapper drake .iso, then booted with it
[05:14] <claudio> Hawkwind: because I need this patch
[05:15] <claudio> and the patch is only for 2.6.9 kernel
[05:15] <Hawkwind> claudio: Surely that is part of the newer kernels. Have you looked at 2.6.18 at all ?
[05:15] <Mantits> I got all the way through the process for running the live CD, but when the blue bar was at 100% it stoped and nothing happened
[05:15] <Mantits> Where do I start for troubleshooting?
[05:15] <claudio> Hawkwind: no, I don't have it
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  this is the live cd? or the alternative isntall cd?
[05:16] <Hawkwind> claudio: Look on kernel.org and see if that stuff you need is now part of the kernel.  Chances are it is
[05:16] <Mantits> Dr_willis: it's the live cd
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  could try the alternative install cd.. also you may want to try some different boot options.  noapic, noapci,  . also you may want to check the consoles (alt-ctrl-F1 through F5) for any error messages
[05:18] <Mantits> k
[05:19] <Mantits> I tried Fedora Core 5 afterward, had problems creating a new partition with that
[05:19] <claudio> Hawkwind: where I can see?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> i always fall back to  the good old 'fdisk' progartm to make my partitions
[05:20] <Hawkwind> claudio: kernel.org and click on the changelog for the kernel you want to look at.  All the info for every kernel is on kernel.org
[05:20] <Mantits> What file system should I use?
[05:20] <Mantits> for kubuntu?
[05:20] <Mantits> And how large?
[05:20] <LjL> Mantits: ext3 is the usual choice
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ext3  - and i think 3gb is the minimal suggested
[05:20] <Dr_willis> more is always better
[05:21] <Mantits> I'll try 10
[05:21] <Hawkwind> Mantits: Totally up to you really.  ext3 is decent, but a lot of users prefer ReiserFS due to it being a bit better in certain ways than ext3
[05:21] <B-Minus> does anyone know a good bandwidth monitoring tool ?
[05:22] <LjL> give me working on-the-fly compression, and i'll switch to reiser without even looking at the number of bugs...
[05:22] <claudio> Hawkwind: http://www.beyondlogic.org/nb5/squashfs_lzma.htm
[05:22] <B-Minus> how can i make ADEPT show the unstable packages as well ?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> LjL,  hmmm.. whats scary  - thats a feature i had on my AMIGA Years ago.
[05:22] <LjL> Dr_willis: XPK?
[05:22] <Hawkwind> Reiser is a lot better than most people realize.  I've used it for years and never once had an issue with file loss or anything.  It's also faster than ext3
[05:23] <B-Minus> amiga pwnz you
[05:23] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  theres those check box's at the top. and  the pull down to select package sets.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> LjL,  i could have specific 'drives/mountpoints/directories' that compressed stuff on the fly - using diffrent methods.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Of course back then.. 3mb was a large file.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:23] <Jucato> unstable packages?
[05:24] <B-Minus> ye i want Knemo
[05:24] <B-Minus> but it doesnt show up on the list
[05:24] <Jucato> B-Minus: are you using Add/Remove Programs?
[05:24] <LjL> Dr_willis: echo >ENV:Clipboards/0 "Dr_willis, thanks, I know :-P"   endcli
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !info knemo
[05:24] <ubotu> knemo: network interfaces monitor for KDEs systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 804 kB
[05:24] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  there ya go.. enable universe
[05:24] <Mantits> Dr_willis: :(( fdisk gives me an error too
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  eww.. thats bad.. what kind of error?
[05:25] <m4x1mum> is there a free GPS software available?
[05:25] <Mantits> "failure reading boot manager"
[05:25] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: Tons of them actually
[05:25] <Dr_willis> m4x1mum,  check freshmeat.net
[05:25] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: freshmeat has hundreds
[05:25] <m4x1mum> for linux?
[05:25] <LjL> m4x1mum: what *kind* of gps software?
[05:25] <Hawkwind> Ummm.....of course
[05:25] <Dr_willis>  apt-cache search gps
[05:25] <Hawkwind> We don't talk much about Windows in here :P
[05:26] <claudio> Hawkwind: have you red it?
[05:26] <Hawkwind> claudio: No.  I don't need to since everything I need is in the kernel I run
[05:27] <B-Minus> Dr_willis: you sure i can enable it in adept manager or do i need to use the console ?
[05:27] <Mantits> So I might have some kind of hard drive problem, but that shouldn't affect the live cd
[05:27] <Mantits> so I've got multiple problems :s
[05:27] <B-Minus> cant see the option to enable universe
[05:28] <alex____> ol
[05:28] <Hawkwind> !universe > B-Minus
[05:28] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  theres a dozen ways to enable it.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> In adept you can just check the 2 check box's at the top. and  have it show all packages.
[05:29] <LjL> !br
[05:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:29] <Jucato> Dr_willis: you're talking about Adept Installer, not Adept Manager
[05:29] <Dr_willis> i run adept from the shell. :)
[05:29] <Jucato> Adept Installer = Add/Remove Programs
[05:29] <Dr_willis> they really need to clarify those 2
[05:29] <Jucato> Adept Manager doesn't have those 2 boxes
[05:30] <Jucato> Adept Manager = big guy, Adept Installer = Add/Remove Programs, Adept Updater, then Adept Notifier.the 4 Adept Brothers
[05:30] <Jucato> (in)Adept brothers... :P
[05:30] <Dr_willis> of course - i recall one guy in here ranting he couldent find those box's either.. he was using  breezy.... we eventually found out.
[05:30] <LjL> m4x1mum: if you want a street navigation type program, then there's a problem in that street maps are not in the public domain. the US TIGER data are in the public domain, though, but they're not very complete. RoadMap (http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net/) supports TIGER.  or, you can look at the http://www.openstreetmap.org project for an ongoing effort to create open maps. RoadNav (http://roadnav.sf.net) can read such maps, if you get the latest
[05:30] <LjL> experimental version.
[05:30] <frank_> hi can someone pastebin me the /boot/grub/menu.list part for booting windows?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I think they need a "change mode" button for the adept program :P to simple/advanced mode. lol
[05:31] <LjL> frank_: i could, but it'd probably be different from the one you need
[05:31] <the_imax> einen wundervollen sonntag an alle
[05:31] <Dr_willis> EasyAdept Vs Adept
[05:31] <frank_> LjL: I can change the partition
[05:31] <Jucato> heh
[05:31] <LjL> !de
[05:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:31] <LjL> frank_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25987/
[05:31] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: adept is best avoided :-) use apt-get/synaptic
[05:32] <frank_> LjL: thanks!
[05:32] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  bah! :P  actually i find that add/remove programs tool - to be rather handy
[05:32] <Mantits> :(( I'm throughily exhausted..  I guess no llinux for tonight!
[05:33] <Jucato> Dr_willis: except for the fact that both GNOME's and KDE's Add/Remove Programs doesn't seem to display some apps
[05:33] <soulrider> !transparency
[05:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  really which ones?
[05:33] <m4x1mum> ooh ok thanks
[05:34] <Jucato> Dr_willis: KWord and KDissert are the ones that I have confirmed so far. there might be others
[05:34] <Jucato> I think KOffice is also missing?
[05:34] <Dr_willis> oh wait i am in ICEwm at the moment.. :P
[05:34] <Jucato> ??
[05:35] <Jucato> can't you launch KDE/GNOME apps in IceWM?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> proberly can.. but the entry is not there at this time.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> i rember why i quit using icewm also..:P
[05:35] <Mantits> Dr_willis: any troubleshooting guides for "cannot create partition"?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> when i get a message in xchat. the programs-listing button flasshes... for 10 min.. :P
[05:36] <Jucato> Dr_willis: "adept_installer"
[05:36] <heinkel_111> I have a machine on which I installed sendmail. I later removed the sendmail package, but still the machine tries to start sendmail at startup. How can this be stopped?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  not really.. other then delete ones there.. write changes.. reboot. try again
[05:36] <Mantits> :S I have Windows on this PC and haven't really backed anything up
[05:36] <heinkel_111> is what i see related to sendmail entries in some init file? which? where?
[05:37] <Mantits> I just wanted to try a live cd or dual boot
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  interesting - kword dont show up :P
[05:38] <Jucato> told yah :)
[05:38] <Karol84PL> To you know any application to let me mount cd image? (like .bin .cue .iso)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> file a bug!
[05:38] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:38] <Dr_willis> iso's are trivial to mount
[05:38] <TheGateKeeper> Mantits: if you want to install, probable a good idea to backup, then resize your ntfs partition to make room for linux
[05:38] <Dr_willis> others you normally convert to iso
[05:38] <Dr_willis> !iso
[05:38] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:38] <Jucato> Dr_willis: but question is: where?
[05:38] <Mantits> linux can run in ntfs?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  With Linus!
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  no.. you normally resize the ntfs drives to free up space..
[05:39] <Jucato> Dr_willis: since it both affects Adept Installer and GNOME App Install
[05:39] <Mantits> :()
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  is THAT the issue you are having? You do have some Unallocated drive space dont ya?
[05:39] <Mantits> I didn't think that through my mind
[05:39] <Mantits> You're right, I probably don't have any unallocated space
[05:39] <claudio> http://rafb.net/paste/results/fdM7RB66.html
[05:40] <Mantits> But since I can't run fdisk i can't change that either :P
[05:40] <claudio> anyone can help me?
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> Mantits: use gparted livcd
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  defrag/scandisk the xp drives.. run a live cd with gparted to resize the partitions . is what i do
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> livecd*
[05:40] <Mantits> alright, googling
[05:44] <claudio> to install superkaramba how can i do?
[05:44] <Mantits> Is there an open source defragger?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> theres no need for one on ext2/3 filesystems
[05:44] <LjL> !find defrag
[05:44] <Mantits> Windows uses a stripped down version of a norton product, and I've found it doesn't really work all that well
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !info superkaramba
[05:44] <ubotu> Found: defrag
[05:44] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[05:45] <Mantits> I'm trying to defrag my ntfs partition before I resize it
[05:45] <Jucato> claudio: enable your main repositories and download superkaramba using Adept
[05:45] <LjL> Mantits: no, not for NTFS
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Mantits,   you cnt boot to windows eh?
[05:45] <Mantits> I can boot to windows, but if I rezie my partition while it's fragmented won't some of the files get cut off?
[05:45] <Mantits> whoa *resize
[05:45] <Mantits> <----------- complete nub
[05:45] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: have you used superkaramba?
[05:46] <claudio> Jucato: what is repositories?
[05:46] <LjL> they shouldn't, i think that at most, it won't allow you to shrink it as much as if it were completely defragmented...
[05:46] <Jucato> !repositories
[05:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:46] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  yes..and i hate it
[05:46] <LjL> but what Dr_willis is saying is to boot windows *in order to defragment from there*, i think
[05:46] <Dr_willis> I dont care for desktop-widget-eyecandy
[05:46] <Jucato> !repositories > claudio
[05:46] <Dr_willis> The Gparted docs advise, scandisk and defrag befor and after using the program on a ntfs drive
[05:47] <tOnCola> :(
[05:47] <tOnCola> no-cd install fails
[05:47] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: I found it the other day while poking around KDE in another distro, isn't it supposed to take the pain out of installing things from kde-look?
[05:48] <tOnCola> I am running suse, have some partition with xp on it. I bought a new 250G hd and I want to switch to kubuntu
[05:48] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  SUperKaramba has nothing to do with Themes.
[05:48] <tOnCola> I have a dvd-iso but no dvdplaye, nor cdplayer
[05:48] <tOnCola> I manage to get grub going on the xp-partition but the installer then keeps asking for a cd
[05:48] <tOnCola> what to do
[05:49] <Dr_willis> tOnCola,  got a spare pc? ya could try a network boot/install
[05:49] <tOnCola> :( nope
[05:49] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE <--- So what does it do?
[05:49] <tOnCola> is there an easy option for a networ-install or such?
[05:50] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  adds desktop widgets and eye candly like i said.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> ->  I dont care for desktop-widget-eyecandy
[05:50] <Dr_willis>  :)
[05:50] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: desktop widgets/mini-apps
[05:50] <soulrider> !autostart