[05:14] <riri> but i want to see if i can connect usb2/network adapter and share internet
[05:14] <riri> i like the vista theme
[05:14] <riri> i was looking for one and never found it on other distro
[05:14] <riri> except gnome
[05:15] <riri> does someone know how to share internet connection "kubuntu to xp"
[05:16] <riri> #kubuntu-fr
[05:22] <tristanmike> Is Kubuntu Breezy known unstable? it seems my knoqueror crashes at least once a day, even if I close Konqueror it crashes. Kopete crashes frequently too. Is stabilty shakey or is there something I can do to try an remedy it ? Thanx in advance.
[05:22] <crimsun> are you using the latest updates?
[05:22] <tristanmike> i believe so, let me apt-get update just to make sure
[05:23] <tristanmike> yeah, it seems I'm up to date...is there an Update manager like there is for Ubuntu or to i just use update/upgrade ?
[05:24] <tristanmike> s/to/do
[05:24] <crimsun> Adept
[05:25] <robotgeek> tristanmike: what version of kde are you using?
[05:27] <tristanmike> robotgeek: sorry, afk for a sec, um default Breezy
[05:27] <Rayman> how to play WMVs etc (w32codecs) on amd64?
[05:27] <tristanmike> oh, so adept does take updates, cool, never noticed
[05:27] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i think that 3.4.3, upgrade to 3.5.2
[05:28] <m5m> if I'm filing a bugzilla report for eclipse and they're asking my OS do I put Linux, Linux-Gtk, or Linux-Motif?   Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:29] <robotgeek> tristanmike: you know what to do :)
[05:29] <tristanmike> robotgeek:  I thought I had the link, but I can't seem to find it, don't I need a sources line...?
[05:30] <twosouls82> !kontact
[05:30] <ubotu> kontact is, like, totally, an application that freatures all of the KDE PIM modules in one place. It's KDE's alternative to MS Outlook.
[05:30] <twosouls82> hahaha
[05:30] <robotgeek> tristanmike: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[05:30] <twosouls82> neat
[05:30] <tristanmike> robotgeek: merci :)
[05:32] <tristanmike> robotgeek: so when I add the line and apt-get update/upgrade, do I comment the line again, or are there security updates based on this sources.list entry ?
[05:32] <robotgeek> tristanmike: keep the line in, no harm done
[05:32] <robotgeek> possibly updates are also in the repo
[05:32] <tristanmike> ok, thanx, and this "upgrade" won't affect any of my settings will it ?
[05:33] <robotgeek> tristanmike: nope
[05:33] <tristanmike> cool
[05:33] <ruedy> hi, i my ubuntu dapper drake is freezing all the time. is there something i can do?
[05:33] <tristanmike> robotgeek: so I just drop the line in there and apt-get update/upgrade and I'm good to go? should I log out the log in ?
[05:34] <robotgeek> tristanmike: restart kde, that all
[05:42] <tristanmike> robotgeek: can I go back if things mess up?
[05:43] <robotgeek> tristanmike: not to worry, i don't think things will mess up. you can go back too
[05:44] <tristanmike> robotgeek: errors
[05:44] <robotgeek> tristanmike: pastebin?
[05:44] <tristanmike> already ahead of you
[05:45] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11451
[05:46] <robotgeek> tristanmike: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:46] <tristanmike> hmmm....
[05:46] <nico8481> lo
[05:46] <tristanmike> why do I want to force it
[05:48] <tristanmike> robotgeek: ?
[05:50] <robotgeek> tristanmike: to be honest, i am not sure. but since you know it's going to be safe, go ahead :)
[05:50] <robotgeek> tristanmike: -f is not force, but --fix-broken
[05:51] <tristanmike> oh, well, that changes everything then :)
[05:51] <ruedy> hi, my ubuntu dapper drake is freezing all the time, is there something i can do?
[05:51] <tristanmike> robotgeek: so what's the command line "apt-get -f upgrade" ?
[05:52] <robotgeek> ruedy: are you in the right room? #ubuntu maybe?
[05:52] <robotgeek> tristanmike: man apt-get
[05:52] <ruedy> sry, im meant kubuntu
[05:52] <tristanmike> great, I haven't taken my hiroglyphs course yet :P
[05:52] <robotgeek> ruedy: it freezes simply?
[05:53] <Barbelos> Does anyone know if Kubuntu breezer comes with ndiswrapper? I can't get online at all without it, so if not I'll have to download it before installing.
[05:53] <ruedy> yep
[05:53] <ruedy> like all three or four minutes
[05:54] <ruedy> and im updating all the time
[05:54] <robotgeek> Barbelos: i think it's on the cd
[05:54] <tristanmike> robotgeek: got it now, thanx again, I apologise for the 3rd degree but I like to play Devils Advocate, I find I learn much more this way, so sorry if I insulted your intelligence :)   So now once that's done, just log out of kde and log back in ?
[05:54] <robotgeek> tristanmike: ctrl + alt + del
[05:55] <tristanmike> I don't like that command, it has a tendency of sending me to a command promt
[05:55] <tristanmike> s/promt/prompt
[05:55] <Barbelos> robotgeek: Ah.. good. Thanks! :)
[05:55] <tristanmike> is that normal ?
[05:56] <robotgeek> tristanmike: that will restart X and give you a shiny new kde, hopefully
[05:57] <tristanmike> robotgeek: and I'm saying when I use that command it has a tendency of bringing me to a tty terminal and I have to login and "startx" then things don't really run properly...
[05:57] <tristanmike> have you ever encountered this problem
[05:57] <robotgeek> tristanmike: it should give a kdm, not console
[05:57] <tristanmike> what ti should and what it does are two different things
[05:57] <tristanmike> *it
[06:00] <robotgeek> tristanmike: yup
[06:02] <tristanmike> robotgeek: so what's your suggestion?
[06:03] <robotgeek> tristanmike: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:03] <tristanmike> robotgeek: wait, is it ctrl+alt+del ? or ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[06:04] <robotgeek> tristanmike: it's back space on windows keyboards, and del on mac ones
[06:04] <tristanmike> ah, right, ok, then my story stands :P
[06:07] <tristanmike> how do I remove/stop files from appearing on my desktop with "~" at the end, ie "Text File.txt~"
[06:08] <robotgeek> tristanmike: look in kate preferences
[06:09] <conn> hi, can kaffeine play streaming media via udp?
[06:10] <McScruff> lo all
[06:13] <Nero_LX> Hallo, ich habe mir Kubuntu Dapper 64bit installiert nun wird das netzwerk aber nicht mehr gestartet. ber System settings"
[06:13] <tristanmike> conn: I recommend the kaffeine-xine engine, I don't know for sure if it will do what you ask, but it seems the better engine to me
[06:13] <robotgeek> !de
[06:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:14] <conn> tristanmike: doesn't kaffeine already use the xine engine by default?
[06:15] <tristanmike> conn: I think gstreamer...but I'm not positive, I can't remember....
[06:15] <tristanmike> conn: I can't say for sure, cause I have both and I can't remember what came first, the chicken or the egg, er, I mean, gstreamer or xine :P
[06:15] <conn> hmm, well I'm running dapper, and I don't see mention of gstreamer anywhere, I can only configure the xine engine parameters
[06:16] <conn> (gstreamer is installed, I mean.. just no mention of it in kaffeine's prefs)
[06:16] <tristanmike> !dapper
[06:16] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:16] <tristanmike> I use Breezy so i'm probably no help to you, sorry :)
[06:16] <conn> it's cool, I know about the other channel, but most people use Ubuntu and not Kubuntu.. I was just looking for guidance to play udp streams
[06:17] <conn> that's fine, thanks anyway
[06:17] <tristanmike> true, sorry, I'll help in a couple of months, but I guess that's too long for you to wait :P
[06:17] <conn> haha
[06:19] <robotgeek> conn: kaffeine in dapper should be able to play them
[06:22] <tristanmike> robotgeek: how do I tell if I'm running the new KDE ?
[06:22] <robotgeek> tristanmike: help about kde
[06:23] <tristanmike> robotgeek: still says 3.4.3
[06:23] <robotgeek> tristanmike: okay the upgrade/install did not finish, most probably
[06:24] <robotgeek> tristanmike: paste sources.list?
[06:24] <tristanmike> k
[06:24] <McScruff> can someone help me getting my wifi working pls
[06:25] <robotgeek> !wireless
[06:25] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:26] <McScruff> it detects it tho
[06:26] <tristanmike> robotgeek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11454
[06:26] <robotgeek> !wifi
[06:26] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:26] <robotgeek> then McScruff , read that ^^
[06:27] <robotgeek> tristanmike: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:27] <tristanmike> ahh, the dist-upgrade is what I missed
[06:28] <tristanmike> that's better.....so far
[06:28] <tristanmike> duh, someone hit me with a trout please
[06:28] <McScruff> brb
[06:37] <gleesond> my sound isn't working and I don't know where to start... can any one give me a hint on where I should start
[06:38] <Tm_T> gleesond: wiki.ubuntu.com is food place to start :)
[06:38] <Tm_T> gleesond: also doublecheck wiring and mixer settings
[06:44] <gleesond> Tm_T: I'm sure the wireing is correct.... so I'll check out the wiki
[06:45] <tristanmike> robotgeek: thanx, my settings did get messed up a bit, but I think I'm back to rockin again, thanx
[06:45] <robotgeek> tristanmike: cool
[06:45] <tristanmike> robotgeek: yup, you da man :)
[06:46] <tristanmike> oddly enough, it does feel better, plus I like what they've done to add applets to the kicker...
[06:46] <tristanmike> errr...the panels
[06:47] <twosouls82> how did I update to 3.5.2 again?
[06:47] <tristanmike> hehe, I just did it
[06:48] <tristanmike> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[06:48] <twosouls82> thanx :P
[06:48] <tristanmike> add one of those lines to your sources.list file, follow the instructions above that for getting the key, then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:49] <twosouls82> tristanmike: which server did you use?
[06:49] <tristanmike> the first one
[06:49] <twosouls82> thanks
[06:49] <tristanmike> the kubuntu.org one
[06:49] <tristanmike> just passing on the help :)
[06:50] <tristanmike> see what you've started robotgeek :P
[06:57] <pperez> Hello Everyone. Does anyone know where I can read about installing Apache FOP in a Kubuntu machine? Is this supported?
[06:57] <twosouls82> I want to upgrade to 3.5.2 but a lot of packages are held back: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640263
[06:57] <twosouls82> what should i do to fix it?
[06:57] <robotgeek> pperez: sure, you need java and stuff for it
[06:58] <tristanmike> twosouls82: are you doing a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[06:58] <twosouls82> tristanmike:  yes
[06:58] <pperez> robotgeek: adept show no FOP
[06:59] <robotgeek> pperez: no, you need to download and install it from their site
[06:59] <tristanmike> twosouls82: hmmm, I did "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ...you can try "sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade"
[06:59] <twosouls82> tristanmike: what does "sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade" do?
[06:59] <pperez> robotgeek: oh, ok. Can I ask why? Why is this tool not in the repo yet?
[07:00] <tristanmike> twosouls82: "-f" tries to fix broken packages
[07:00] <tristanmike> twosouls82: I just learned that today myself
[07:00] <twosouls82> :)
[07:00] <tristanmike> twosouls82: also paste your sources if you can, just to make sure we don't have anything in there that shouldn't be....
[07:01] <tristanmike> i'll brb, in like 2-4 minuts
[07:01] <twosouls82> okay
[07:01] <robotgeek> pperez: i don't know, java is non-free?
[07:02] <xwolf-> i can't apt-get install mysql-server package... can i download it from somewhere?
[07:02] <twosouls82> tristanmike: sources of what?
[07:03] <pperez> robotgeek: I can see where that makes 'sense'. Thanks for the info.
[07:06] <tristanmike> twosouls82: your source.list file
[07:06] <twosouls82> tristanmike: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640287
[07:07] <xwolf-> i can't apt-get install mysql-server package... can i download it from somewhere else?
[07:08] <ngirard> Hi guys
[07:08] <ngirard> is it me, or is there a problem with the i386 iso of the latest flight 6 ?
[07:08] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, wow, you've got a few things to do...
[07:09] <twosouls82> tristanmike: do I?? what is wrong?
[07:09] <ngirard> I've downloaded & burned this iso:
[07:09] <ngirard>  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-install-i386.iso
[07:09] <tristanmike> twosouls82: nothing is "wrong" per se, but you haven't enabled the universe/multiverse yet....
[07:09] <ngirard> and couldn't boot on it
[07:09] <ngirard> I've tried on 2 pcs
[07:09] <ngirard> the md5sum is correct
[07:09] <twosouls82> tristanmike: does that cause it?
[07:10] <tristanmike> twosouls82: not 100% sure, but you will have access to a lot more software ;)
[07:10] <twosouls82> :)
[07:10] <mihai_> i want to print a list of currently logged users and their number of active proccesses
[07:10] <twosouls82> tristanmike: more hints?
[07:10] <exobuzz> dumb question: how do i reboot a mac with linux.. no "del" button..
[07:10] <exobuzz> :-)
[07:10] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, here's what I would do.....
[07:10] <twosouls82> :P
[07:13] <robotgeek> exobuzz: sudo reboot
[07:14] <exobuzz> robotgeek: i mean with keyboard shortcut ?
[07:15] <tristanmike> twosouls82: first I would "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak" to make a back up copy of my current sources.list file. Then I would open a blank text document and copy lines 22-30 and lines 35-36 in there, for now (we're going to delete the contents of the whole file after that, but we want to put them back in after we make the adjustments).  The I would go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047  and copy/paste the en
[07:15] <tristanmike> file, overwriting everything. Then I'd copy the stuff in the text file back into my sources.list file and save and post that on pastebin again so i can make sure it's ok.
[07:20] <twosouls82> tristanmike: if I understood you, this would be ok: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640312
[07:20] <tristanmike> ...looking
[07:21] <tristanmike> twosouls82: yes, only 1 thing is I'd move the link paste to the top and the original stuff the bottom...make sense ?
[07:21] <twosouls82> yep :P
[07:22] <twosouls82> (bad English ;))
[07:22] <tristanmike> no worries =)
[07:22] <twosouls82> :)
[07:22] <tristanmike> twosouls82: tell me when that's done
[07:22] <twosouls82> tristanmike: now apt-get update?
[07:22] <tristanmike> and make sure that there are no empty lines at the top of the file
[07:23] <twosouls82> no uncommenting?
[07:23] <tristanmike> not needed. the only thing commented now are the "source packages" which you don't need unless you are going to compile Ubuntu software from source, and the Backports and they were commented anyway
[07:24] <tristanmike> twosouls82: now save and exit the file and "sudo apt-get update"
[07:24] <tristanmike> :)
[07:24] <twosouls82> now a dist-upgrade I think?
[07:24] <tristanmike> try a "sudo apt-get upgrade" first
[07:25] <tristanmike> twosouls82: no errors at all ?
[07:25] <twosouls82> :s still held back
[07:25] <tristanmike> try "sudo apt-get -f upgrade"
[07:26] <xwolf-> where can i upgrade libgcc1?
[07:26] <twosouls82> tristanmike: still :'(
[07:26] <tristanmike> twosouls82: and if that doen't work..try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:26] <tristanmike> twosouls82: we'll get it
[07:26] <twosouls82> will we?
[07:26] <tristanmike> twosouls82: we will try our hardest
[07:27] <twosouls82> tristanmike: Houston we made it!!! :D
[07:27] <tristanmike> :)
[07:27] <twosouls82> I love you already :)
[07:27] <tristanmike> it should take 5-10 minutes
[07:27] <twosouls82> thanks for all your time
[07:27] <tristanmike> oh, it's no problem, you'll be rockin' now =)
[07:28] <twosouls82> tristanmike: no other helped so, you're special in some kind of way ;)
[07:28] <tristanmike> twosouls82:  do you have mp3 support and all that stuff? flash, java, embeded movies in your browser ?
[07:28] <twosouls82> tristanmike: also on 64bit?
[07:29] <tristanmike> do'h
[07:29] <tristanmike> no, sorry
[07:29] <twosouls82> haha
[07:29] <twosouls82> haven't tested it yet, in suse i had
[07:29] <twosouls82> tristanmike: on Kanotix I had them through a chroot environment
[07:30] <tristanmike> twosouls82:  you may be able to do that here too, I'm not sure, that's outta my league
[07:30] <tristanmike> I can really only do the basic stuff still, can compile a thing or two :)
[07:30] <twosouls82> tristanmike: that's easier than this was, believe me, just a few commands you need to know of
[07:30] <twosouls82> l)
[07:32] <twosouls82> tristanmike: when I asked this all yesterday, nobody (of 232 people) knew what you just told me
[07:32] <MidMark> hi to all, please help me: how can I activate dma on external usb hard drive plugged in?
[07:32] <tristanmike> twosouls82: you just lucked out, cause I just did it like 5 minutes before you asked me :P
[07:33] <twosouls82> tristanmike: thought I read about it earlier on ;)
[07:33] <twosouls82> :D
[07:34] <tristanmike> :D
[07:34] <twosouls82> tristanmike: .ca is Canada?
[07:34] <tristanmike> yessir =)
[07:35] <frank23> MidMark: You can't activate dma for a usb drive
[07:36] <twosouls82> tristanmike: shall we share an email address so that we can share experiences about Kubuntu64?
[07:37] <tristanmike> twosouls82<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:37] <tristanmike> twosouls82: throw me on messenger
[07:37] <tristanmike> twosouls82: now you have to log out and log in
[07:37] <twosouls82> just logout and in, no restart?
[07:38] <tristanmike> no restart, just log out, log in
[07:38] <twosouls82> brb, thanx
[07:38] <tristanmike> restart only for Kernel updates, that's it
[07:38] <MidMark> frank23: problem is playing dvd from usb hdd they are slow
[07:38] <tristanmike> twosouls82: wait
[07:38] <twosouls82> I thought also for kdm ;)
[07:38] <twosouls82> and I saw a kernel coming by
[07:39] <twosouls82> atleast, I think so
[07:39] <tristanmike> twosouls82: be aware that if you have a funky configuration on your desktop, you may need to take a minute to make some adjustments
[07:39] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I just did a clean install
[07:39] <twosouls82> :)
[07:39] <tristanmike> your good to go then :)
[07:39] <tristanmike> see ya in a minute
[07:40] <twosouls82> bye
[07:40] <frank23> MidMark: maybe the usb connection to your drive is too slow. did you try copying one to your local drive to try?
[07:43] <Pygi> ok, altought I know the answer to this, I'll still ask...
[07:43] <Pygi> I can't launch an X app when being root.
[07:43] <Pygi> I have to do "sudo xclock" for instance, because if I do "sudo su" and
[07:43] <Pygi> then "xclock", I get "Error: can't open display :0". Even with a
[07:43] <Pygi> previous "xhost +localhost"
[07:43] <twosouls82> tristanmike: hi, me again :P
[07:43] <twosouls82> odd, I had to restart
[07:44] <hardbody> ppl
[07:44] <tristanmike> twosouls82: hey, hey :)
[07:44] <hardbody> alguem portuga?
[07:44] <tristanmike> why /
[07:44] <tristanmike> ?
[07:44] <twosouls82> I came in a console mode and startkde diidn't work
[07:44] <twosouls82> :)
[07:44] <frank23> Pygi: what if you do  xhost +  ?
[07:44] <twosouls82> so, ctrl+alt+del
[07:44] <tristanmike> ahh, that's why
[07:44] <tristanmike> you should use the real logout feature
[07:44] <frank23> !pt
[07:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:45] <twosouls82> tristanmike:  thanks again mate, now I can enjoy kde 3.5.2 again
[07:45] <Pygi> frank23: not sure, but should it work then?
[07:45] <tristanmike> just passing on the <3
[07:45] <frank23> Pygi: I think xhost + opens up X to anyone
[07:45] <twosouls82> pass the credits on as well then ;)
[07:45] <twosouls82> credits=complis
[07:46] <Pygi> frank23: please try to do what I described up?^_^
[07:46] <twosouls82> tristanmike: do you know where to get a QtCurve package?
[07:47] <tristanmike> twosouls82: what is it ?
[07:47] <frank23> Pygi: I get the same result as you do. xhost + works though
[07:47] <tristanmike> twosouls82: here...?   http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5065
[07:47] <twosouls82> tristanmike: the most highly configurable and drewable style I know ;)
[07:47] <Pygi> frank23: thanks ^_^
[07:51] <oskari> how i can change my kmenu logo
[07:51] <MidMark> frank23 another question: I don't know why krusader cannot move from external hdd to the same hdd receiving a permission denided, with knqueror works
[07:52] <frank23> MidMark: what is krusader?
[07:52] <MidMark> twin panel file manager
[07:52] <MidMark> http://krusader.sourceforge.net/scr.php
[07:53] <MidMark> the best in my opinion
[07:53] <MidMark> also was asked to put in main for Dapper, don't know the status
[07:53] <tristanmike> I was wondering how to get something like this....
[07:54] <frank23> MidMark: if it works with konqueror, maybe it's a configuration problem with krusader I don't know.
[07:54] <MidMark> yep, but asking to #krusader they said that is a permissions problem... cannot know the true problem
[07:55] <frank23> I you konqueror can do move some file somewhere and krusader cannot do the exact same thing (same file, same move) then it can't be a permission problem
[07:56] <frank23> man I should proofread my replies ;)
[07:56] <MidMark> it's the same thing I have thougth, but they said different things, don't know how to do at this time
[07:57] <Pygi> frank23: may you answer one more question pls? :=)
[07:57] <frank23> Pygi: if I know the answer, yeah ;)
[07:57] <Pygi> In the control panel, you can't even switch
[07:57] <Pygi> language when you have additional locales installed for FR + DE (for
[07:57] <Pygi> instance): only EN shows up as available language.
[07:57] <Pygi> I want a way to have a language and locale attributes linked to the user in
[07:57] <Pygi> the user management
[07:59] <frank23> Pygi: can you go in regional&Accessibility->Country/Region->Addlanguage->Other->list of installed locales?
[08:00] <Pygi> frank23: hm, will that help me link language and locale attributes to a user?
[08:01] <frank23> Pygi: I don't know how to do this in the user management but I think new users should be able to switch permanently using that menu
[08:01] <Pygi> frank23: but I don't want that =P
[08:02] <frank23> Pygi: There must be a way to do that selection when you create the user. in .kde somewhere I'm sure. maybe it has to be done manually. I don't know much about this. I only figured out how to change the kde language yesterday
[08:02] <Pygi> frank23: ah, thanks anyway =P
[08:03] <frank23> Pygi: and I don't think the kde setting changes the OOo settings either.
[08:06] <twosouls82> tristanmike: you have been added to MSN
[08:06] <twosouls82> what is your real name? Mine is Jay Kamminga
[08:07] <tristanmike> twosouls82: it's not a good idea to give real names over irc
[08:07] <twosouls82> fine by me, I am Jay Kamminga ;)
[08:07] <Jaymac> tristanmike..   I have flight 5 on cd. Is it worth while to download flight 6 for 2 hours? Or can I just "aptitude" my way to all the new things that are on flight 6?
[08:12] <robotgeek> ehjix: yes, you can update
[08:12] <tristanmike> ehjix: yeah, you should be able to update fine, well, as fine as a testing release can be :P
[08:13] <ehjix> Thanks robotgeek and tristanmike! I just managed to get knoppix connect over wireless, so I am not sure I can burn flight 6 anyway. I have no other connection.
[08:14] <drbreen> hello
[08:14] <tristanmike> hi :)
[08:14] <ehjix> I am not sure if I can connect over wireless while installing from flight 5. Can I?
[08:14] <drbreen> i want to print something but i am lacking color ink
[08:15] <tristanmike> bah! kopete just crashed!
[08:15] <tristanmike> grrrrr
[08:15] <twosouls82> :s
[08:16] <twosouls82> :)
[08:16] <twosouls82> +t
[08:16] <ehjix> never tried the DHCP connect during installation from a wireless card, anyone did?
[08:16] <drbreen> so where can i change that in kde (want to print monochrome) ?
[08:16] <frank23> ehjix: when I installed flight 4, the installer tried to connect but couldn't
[08:16] <frank23> ehjix: when I installed flight 6*, the installer tried to connect but couldn't
[08:17] <ehjix> I have to set essid and encryption key too...
[08:17] <ehjix> ... to get out
[08:17] <frank23> ehjix: the installer asked for essid and wep key but as I said, it didn't work for me.
[08:17] <ehjix> hmmm... maybe it cant be done
[08:18] <ehjix> frank23, ok, thanks!
[08:18] <frank23> ehjix: what driver does your card use?
[08:19] <ehjix> I am not sure. It is a cisco card
[08:19] <ehjix> very good, a bit old, but strong
[08:19] <frank23> ehjix: did knoppix make it work automatically?
[08:19] <ehjix> more or less yes
[08:20] <ehjix> i set iwconfig stuff as root
[08:20] <frank23> ehjix: the card itself, I mean not the network settings
[08:20] <frank23> ok I'd say there is a chance that the installer works with it
[08:20] <ehjix> there is a "wireless connector" in the knoppix menue
[08:21] <cowboyfeng> Hello
[08:21] <frank23> ehjix: yeah but if it works without tricks like ndiswrapper, it means your card is relatively linux-friendly
[08:21] <ehjix> frank23, "Network Card Configuration"
[08:22] <ehjix> frank23, I got it from a debian guy !
[08:22] <frank23> ehjix: ok. I'm sure he chose wisely then! ;)
[08:22] <ehjix> frank23, yes, a "real hacker"
[08:23] <ehjix> frank23, I think I will abort the burning of flight 6 and try wireless connect in fligt 5 installation
[08:24] <ehjix> frank23, thanks
[08:24] <frank23> ehjix: well to update to flight 6 you will probably have to download as much stuff as to download the cd
[08:24] <ehjix> i never burnt antyhing with knoppix and its 2 hours to go...
[08:25] <ehjix> bye
[08:25] <ehjix> thanks
[08:30] <twosouls82> help :P
[08:30] <tristanmike> BAH! kopete crashed AGAIN!!! Whenever I click Settings
[08:31] <twosouls82> tristanmike: welcome back again
[08:31] <twosouls82> what is the error?
[08:32] <tristanmike> it's long
[08:32] <twosouls82> paste it in the bin, you never know who knows more
[08:32] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11469
[08:32] <tristanmike> step ahead of you
[08:32] <twosouls82> lol :P
[08:33] <twosouls82> tristanmike: you re using a cam??
[08:33] <tristanmike> no
[08:34] <twosouls82> kee, I knew of problems there with and I saw video somewhere in the output :)
[08:34] <tristanmike> I have a printer and game controller plugged into my usb
[08:34] <nuky> hi, i'm trying to install the xine player cos i can't veiw dvd navigation menu's on mplayer, but when i run it, it skipas a lot and after some googling, i tried running xine-check.. i get this output http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640470 and i'm not sure how to resolve it because if i uninstall xine-ui, then both of the instances disappear!  i think the xine-config file found message is a result of it assuming that i'm using /usr/bin/X11/xine
[08:34] <nuky> e of the xine's?
[08:34] <nuky> sorry that was so long
[08:35] <tristanmike> nuky: that's fine, it's a question, not a "paste"
[08:35] <twosouls82> tristanmike: try to unplug them to be sure, one of them looks the problem
[08:35] <cowboyfeng> how do I enable quick time?
[08:36] <tristanmike> twosouls82: unplugged, no change, it only crahes on "Settings"
[08:36] <twosouls82> tristanmike: on the Devices tab?
[08:36] <tristanmike> twosouls82: rather, "Settings - Configure"
[08:36] <nuky> i also tried moving the instance in my /usr/bin/X11 and then running xine-check but then it reports that xine is not in my path
[08:36] <twosouls82> :s
[08:36] <twosouls82> that's not good, works fine here, same pc
[08:37] <twosouls82> same distro
[08:37] <twosouls82> same servers
[08:37] <tristanmike> twosouls82: rather..."Settings - Configure...."  the other configures work fine
[08:38] <tristanmike> "Configure Global Shortcuts" works  "Configure Shortcuts" works, just the last one forces a crash
[08:38] <twosouls82> isn't there a developer in the room?
[08:38] <tristanmike> or if I right click on the System Tray Icon, and select Configure, it crashes
[08:39] <twosouls82> odd
[08:39] <tristanmike> yeah, it sucks
[08:39] <twosouls82> what about gaim ;)
[08:39] <twosouls82> can't she msn?
[08:39] <tristanmike> ....she....?
[08:40] <twosouls82> gaim => she
[08:40] <twosouls82> :D
[08:40] <tristanmike> ahhh
[08:40] <tristanmike> yeah, but it's gtk, not qt, so it's not pretty :P
[08:40] <twosouls82> tristanmike: try QtCurve for yourself ;)
[08:40] <twosouls82> makes even GTK apps look nice
[08:44] <gix> buona sera
[08:44] <gix> c'e qualche italiano??
[08:44] <juliomam> Is it secure (stable) to install KDE 3.5.2 from the repositories listed in kubuntu site? I am using breezy(5.10) and I also already did a dist-upgrade from oficial reps.
[08:46] <gix> i've the dapper
[08:46] <gix> and i have install kde 3.5.2 from repo
[08:46] <gix> and all is ok
[08:46] <robotgeek> juliomam: yes
[08:46] <gix> but now the repository is down
[08:47] <juliomam> thanks robotgeek
[08:47] <gix> Failed to fetch http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  302 Found
[08:47] <gix> who know this problem?
[08:48] <robotgeek> gix: there are no dapper backports
[08:48] <gix> ok
[08:48] <gix> Failed to fetch http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  302 Found
[08:48] <gix> here there is the same problem
[08:49] <gix> and idem for the rest of repository
[08:49] <gix> :(
[08:49] <robotgeek> gix: change repository
[08:49] <gix> how i find another?
[08:51] <robotgeek> gix: maybe repository is taking time to sync, use us.archive maybe?
[08:51] <juliomam> gix: maybe --> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Archive
[08:52] <juliomam> I took the brazilian ones from there.
[08:56] <vge> what was the command to know what kernel i have?
[08:56] <robotgeek> uname -r
[08:56] <vge> ty
[09:01] <vge> 2.6.12-10-386
[09:01] <vge> well, the next question is, how to update 2.6.12-10-386 to 2.6.12-10-386 :P
[09:02] <dipnlik> hi all. is there an autocad version / equivalent program for kubuntu?
[09:04] <nalla> anyone there willing to help out a noob?
[09:04] <berkes_> hello hello
[09:05] <dipnlik> nalla: just ask your question
[09:05] <nalla> well
[09:05] <berkes_> ive been hunting for kmplayer debs for some weeks. The only ones that seems somehow supported and stable are debian SID ones. And they are not compatible with Breezy.
[09:06] <nalla> kubuntu wont boot kde
[09:06] <nalla> im on my machine right now with knoppix
[09:06] <dipnlik> :-O
[09:07] <nalla> i get not gui at all it boots to the command line badger thing
[09:07] <nalla> ive tried a few things i saw in forums "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (and kdm)"
[09:07] <berkes_> does anyone know any nice Kmplayer resources
[09:07] <berkes_> ?
[09:07] <nalla> "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start (and restart)
[09:08] <dipnlik> nalla: i don't know how to help, sorry... :(
[09:09] <nalla> any ideas?
[09:09] <nalla> at all?
[09:09] <vge> !kernel
[09:10] <dipnlik> nalla: i'm kinda new to linux too, if it was me i would search forums and stay in the channel for some time
[09:10] <dipnlik> nalla: it neither worked for let's say 2 or 3 days, reinstall. but this is me.
[09:11] <dipnlik> nalla: try asking here again when the channel becomes more active
[09:11] <nalla> k thx
[09:11] <nalla> any idea when itll be more active?
[09:13] <dipnlik> well, 4PM here in Brazil, and i see the channel very active in the morning
[09:17] <mluser-work> Does anyone here happen to know which kde package allows me to see preview icons of movie files in konqueror?
[09:17] <robotgeek> mluser-work: i think that's a konq option
[09:18] <mluser-work> robotgeek: it is, but I see previews for everything except movie files
[09:19] <robotgeek> mluser-work: there was a size option, maybe codecs (not sure)
[09:20] <mluser-work> robotgeek: Yes, and I already set it to the max size which sais 100MB
[09:20] <mluser-work> *says
[09:22] <robotgeek> mluser-work: what files are you trying to preview? can you play them?
[09:23] <m5m> erg; my touchpad laptop mouse keeps freezing and I have to completely reboot to get it back... unfortunately my usb-mouse loses connectivity after a few moments of use... does anyone have ideas of where to start troubleshooting an INspiron 8100 touchpad & why it might be losing touch with Kubuntu?
[09:24] <mluser-work> robotgeek: Yes, 1 is a mov file and the other is an avi, I can play them both fine in xine and mplayer
[09:29] <tristanmike> I having a problem with kopete crashing on me any time I select "Configure...." from either "Settings-Configure..." or right clicking the icon in the task bar and selecting it. I have the backtrace file....but I don't really know where to go from here, any help would be appreciated, thanx in advance.
[09:30] <tristanmike> I have also upgraded to KDE 3.5.2 recently to try to combat this issue, it hasn't been resolved
[09:31] <torre> hola
[09:31] <tristanmike> hi :)
[09:31] <dipnlik> tristanmike: you mean kopete can crash simply by going to settings / configure?
[09:32] <torre> algun espaol por aqui
[09:32] <crimsun> #kubuntu-es
[09:32] <tristanmike> dipnlik: yes
[09:32] <twosouls82> 1nl
[09:32] <twosouls82> !nl
[09:32] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[09:32] <dipnlik> tristanmike: oh sad :(
[09:32] <tristanmike> dipnlik: that's the only one it seems to crash on...and it is something that happens everytime
[09:33] <twosouls82> tristanmike: you could remove all of the settings in the kopete folder ...
[09:33] <twosouls82> have you tried that?
[09:33] <AbeDodgers> i have to run a script every time a new user has logged it... any ideas?
[09:33] <tristanmike> twosouls82: I'm looking for that folder now
[09:33] <robotgeek> tristanmike: doesn't crash for me
[09:34] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i am on dapper, though
[09:34] <tristanmike> I know, doesn't crash for most I'm sure :(
[09:34] <twosouls82> ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/
[09:34] <tristanmike> robotgeek: then you're no help :P
[09:34] <tristanmike> robotgeek: just kiddin' :P
[09:34] <cycus_zwisus> who wants nicer fonts in gtk1 apps?
[09:34] <twosouls82> I do
[09:34] <tristanmike> twosouls82: delete that whole directory?
[09:35] <robotgeek> who runs gtk1 apps anymore :)
[09:35] <twosouls82> yep
[09:35] <twosouls82> mplayer robotgeek
[09:35] <twosouls82> tristanmike: yep
[09:36] <tristanmike> nope, still crashes
[09:38] <twosouls82> tristanmike: :'(
[09:39] <robotgeek> twosouls82: can you turn off public aways and arrivals, please?
[09:39] <tristanmike> twosouls82: you're using a different version anyway, your on 64
[09:40] <twosouls82> tristanmike: guess so
[09:40] <twosouls82> robotgeek: where to disable it?
[09:40] <vge> does prepatch version of a kernel somehow different from using a "full" version of kernel?
[09:41] <crimsun> vge: a what?
[09:41] <m5m> ?mpm
[09:41] <robotgeek> twosouls82: what client are you using? konversation? check in prefernces
[09:41] <twosouls82> robotgeek: can't find it there
[09:42] <m5m> crimsun: what would you do if your touchpad kept malfunctioning and the cursor was frozen on the screen?
[09:42] <Kyral> vge: you mean from Kernel.org?
[09:42] <vge> crimsun: http://kernel.org/patchtypes/pre.html <-- what does this say to you?
[09:42] <vge> Kyral: yes
[09:42] <robotgeek> kpaolo: turn off plblic away, please
[09:42] <Kyral> vge: you apply them to the source tree of the previous version
[09:43] <vge> "right"
[09:43] <crimsun> vge: they're very much still full kernels, just development versions.
[09:43] <Kyral> or not lol
[09:43] <vge> naah, i would very mutch like to do that
[09:43] <crimsun> vge: that terminology is outdated for 2.6, btw. Linus no longer makes pres.
[09:43] <vge> icic
[09:44] <crimsun> m5m: I would investigate the touchpad driver first, then the X server (driver)
[09:44] <MacAnthony> kubuntu.org site down?
[09:44] <crimsun> seems up to me
[09:45] <MacAnthony> never mind - 3rd refresh worked
[09:45] <vge> so, i can follow n+1 "how to install kernel" with that kernel version too?
[09:45] <crimsun> what are you referring to?
[09:45] <vge> 2.6.17-rc1 i guess
[09:45] <crimsun> you'd apply 17-rc1 to 16
[09:46] <vge> ?
[09:46] <pradeepto> MacAnthony: yo!
[09:46] <MacAnthony> hey pradeepto
[09:47] <m5m> crimsun: where can I find my touchpad driver? do you think I can kill/restart it via the terminal?
[09:47] <crimsun> m5m: restart gdm/kdm
[09:47] <crimsun> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[09:47] <m5m> crimsun: cntrl+alt+backspace? to restart kdm?  or just type restart kdm?
[09:48] <vge> crimsun: so if my kernel is 2.6.12-10-386 i cant use that version?
[09:48] <crimsun> m5m: ctrl+alt+backspace may work
[09:48] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I restarted and now I have the menu items :s
[09:48] <crimsun> vge: you can apply the 2.6.17-rc1 patch to pristine upstream 2.6.16 source
[09:48] <crimsun> vge: why do you want 2.6.17-rc1?
[09:49] <vge> bcm43xx NEEDS kernel 2.6.16 or higher <-- well i need something
[09:49] <tristanmike> twosouls82: funny
[09:49] <twosouls82> :P
[09:49] <vge> i dont know what atm sry :)
[09:49] <twosouls82> lol
[09:51] <tristanmike> twosouls82: looks like I may just compile kopete
[09:51] <twosouls82> tristanmike: whise choice, saves a lot of time
[09:52] <asimov> What is the eisist way to install firefox?
[09:53] <twosouls82> asimov: apt-get install firefox
[09:53] <asimov> Will that install the newest version?
[09:53] <robotgeek> asimov, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:54] <twosouls82> adept doesn't listen to root's font settings here
[09:54] <asimov> So I have to install the old version then update it?
[09:56] <m5m> crimsun: restarting kdm didn't unfreeze my cursor... this happens about once per hour now.... I have to reboot completely and the usb-mouse doesn't work either because it too loses contact after a short period...  I don't have a /xorg/ dir inside of /usr/lib/ any other ideas about how to fix my touchpad/mouse drivers?  is there a wiki page I should read up on?
[09:56] <asimov> what about compiling it?
[09:58] <_manu38_> bonsoir
[09:58] <vge> asimov:  i think firefox dont have any sources to compile from
[09:58] <_manu38_> good evening
[09:58] <asimov> THere is a page in the wiki
[09:59] <twosouls82> do I quickly restart x with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[10:00] <_manu38_> Can I do record a webradio whith Kubuntu Kde ??
[10:00] <twosouls82> _manu38_: kstreamripper
[10:01] <_manu38_> thanks !!!
[10:01] <twosouls82> :)
[10:01] <gleesond> can some one help me get my sound working? I push the test sound and there is nothing
[10:01] <gleesond> it was working untill I upgragded to dapper
[10:03] <_manu38_> thanks you very much Twosouls82 !!!!
[10:04] <_manu38_> thanks you very much Twosouls82 !!!!
[10:05] <twosouls82> _manu38_: you are welcome, I use it too
[10:05] <twosouls82> to make backups :P
[10:06] <twosouls82> tristanmike: is the compiling working out allright?
[10:06] <_manu38_> I want to record a personnal message on a webradio ( www.frequence3.fr )
[10:07] <twosouls82> tristanmike: instead of "make install" use "checkinstall" first install checkinstall
[10:07] <tristanmike> twosouls82: of course, I wouldn't have it any other way ;)
[10:07] <twosouls82> :P
[10:08] <tristanmike> twosouls82: I've compiled VLC, that was a [un-CoC friendly remark]  to install
[10:08] <tristanmike> :P
[10:09] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:09] <tristanmike> I have 2 nice guides if you want em
[10:09] <twosouls82> first I have to solve a bug in Konqueror
[10:11] <twosouls82> I have two `Search for Google-textboxes` in Konqueror, I want to -but can not- remove it
[10:11] <twosouls82> how do I do this?
[10:12] <twosouls82> it's not in the Customisaton dialogue
[10:12] <Snake__> twosouls82: kde 3.5.2?
[10:12] <twosouls82> yep
[10:12] <Snake__> twosouls82: you can configure your menubars, I too had that problem
[10:12] <Snake__> twosouls82: Settings: Toolbar
[10:13] <Snake__> Err no
[10:13] <twosouls82> Snake__: how? their not there
[10:13] <Snake__> twosouls82: click "Setting" then "Configure toolbars"
[10:13] <twosouls82> I did, no google textboxes there
[10:14] <Snake__> twosouls82: I cant remember exactly what its called, but its not Google Textboxes, look for two entrys of something
[10:14] <twosouls82> kee
[10:15] <tristanmike> Google Suggest Toolbar ?
[10:15] <twosouls82> not there
[10:15] <twosouls82> nothing has to do with google :s
[10:16] <dipnlik> twosouls82: something listed twice?
[10:16] <Snake__> twosouls82: just keep hunting man, it has NOTHING to do with google, thats all I can remeber, I know there is one toolbar in there somewhere that has something you need to get rid of
[10:16] <Snake__> I wish I could remeber which it was :(
[10:16] <twosouls82> but I only have the Location toolbar visible
[10:17] <Snake__> its not just the location toolbar, I believe its actually 2 toolbars next to each other
[10:17] <Snake__> Trust me, its a b1tch to get it, but I know its in them configs
[10:17] <twosouls82> owww
[10:17] <twosouls82> I'll look harder, first I'll role a J to come with it :P
[10:18] <Snake__> lol
[10:18] <Snake__> twosouls82: Im right, its 2 seperate bars, if you edit the "loction" bar, it says nothing about a search, yet the google bar is still ther
[10:19] <Snake__> and its not the search toolbar
[10:19] <twosouls82> Snake__: I will look further... J is finished, ahhhh :)
[10:20] <tristanmike> twosouls82: a "j"....you are my new best friend :P
[10:20] <__filip_> Can i import my bockmarks and all that from firefox to konqueror?
[10:20] <tristanmike> I love compiling that program :P
[10:20] <twosouls82> tristanmike: that's why I love my little country
[10:21] <twosouls82> lol
[10:21] <twosouls82> Germany tristanmike ? :s
[10:21] <tristanmike> sure, what ever, sounds good to me
[10:21] <twosouls82> no Js there ;)
[10:22] <vge> where can i get a kernelpagage for  2.6.17-rc1?
[10:22] <twosouls82> Snake__: thanks, it was the searchbar
[10:23] <twosouls82> tristanmike: did the compile work?
[10:23] <tristanmike> twosouls82: working on it
[10:23] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11471
[10:23] <twosouls82> :) thought you were quiter ;)
[10:23] <Snake__> twosouls82: oh was it? alright
[10:24] <tristanmike> twosouls82: I meant move into the building next to yours not the country
[10:24] <twosouls82> tristanmike: can see
[10:24] <_manu38_> and......
[10:24] <twosouls82> tristanmike: :P
[10:24] <twosouls82> that's also called next door isn't it?
[10:25] <twosouls82> or only abbroad?
[10:26] <_manu38_> How to listen my record because it is in *.mp3
[10:26] <tristanmike> I just thought you missunderstood cause you said germany
[10:26] <tristanmike> !mp3
[10:26] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[10:26] <tristanmike> !+mp3
[10:26] <twosouls82> lol
[10:26] <twosouls82> no bot?
[10:26] <twosouls82> !lame
[10:26] <tristanmike> no ubotu :(
[10:26] <dipnlik> twosouls82: ubotu is off
[10:26] <Snake__> Wtf where did ubotu gooo
[10:26] <_manu38_> winamp  with  Kubuntu ?????????????
[10:27] <twosouls82> dipnlik: why?
[10:27] <twosouls82> _manu38_: no
[10:27] <_manu38_> ah yes !!!!!
[10:27] <Snake__> _manu38_: doesnt work pal
[10:27] <dipnlik> twosouls82: dunno. it's off :S
[10:27] <_manu38_> so, I don't listen my record !! ?
[10:28] <Snake__> _manu38_: please stop with the super punctution !!!!! #1.
[10:28] <twosouls82> _manu38_: I am new to Kubuntu, just installed
[10:28] <AbeDodgers> i want to check if 2 files (f1 f2) are different and file 1 is larger than file 2 than execute some code
[10:28] <Snake__> _manu38_: and number 2, you can play it with amarok, is it a MP3?
[10:28] <_manu38_> woops sory
[10:28] <tristanmike> _manu38_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:28] <AbeDodgers> any ideas?
[10:28] <AbeDodgers> ?
[10:28] <tristanmike> AbeDodgers: man diff
[10:28] <_manu38_> yes, it is a mp3
[10:28] <Snake__> _manu38_: when you get used to amarok, I think youll agree it is probly as good as, if not better than winamp
[10:28] <AbeDodgers> tristanmike, i know about diff, but what about the integration with the shell scripting?
[10:29] <Snake__> _manu38_: then read that restricted formats page tristanmike just gave you, and itll set you up
[10:29] <AbeDodgers> i mean i want to put it in a if
[10:29] <tristanmike> um.....diff compares two files....that's all I know
[10:29] <leeghoofd> hey, I just updated to dapper and installed network-manager-kde, but the thing in the systray says it's not running while I see network-manager starts ok on boot, do you know what this problem is or where I can find logs?
[10:29] <_manu38_> ok
[10:30] <vge> soo, can somebody advice what i need to do if i need to install  2.6.17-rc1 kernel?
[10:30] <twosouls82> is gstreamer hot on Kubuntu? arts and xine were at suse
[10:30] <Snake__> twosouls82: gstreamer is a POS
[10:30] <twosouls82> hoi alweer leeghoofd
[10:30] <twosouls82> POS as in...
[10:30] <Snake__> yes as in COC. :)
[10:30] <leeghoofd> hey twosouls82 :-)
[10:31] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: just back from work :)
[10:31] <twosouls82> :P leeghoofd lekker gewerkt? good day at work?
[10:31] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: yep :)
[10:31] <twosouls82> nice, to hear that, welcome back man
[10:32] <leeghoofd> thanks
[10:32] <leeghoofd> the kaffeine icon still is there ;)
[10:32] <leeghoofd> but I don't think it's in the desktop files
[10:32] <twosouls82> hahah lol
[10:32] <twosouls82> what was that third file?
[10:32] <twosouls82> it isn't?
[10:32] <twosouls82> is should
[10:33] <twosouls82> it*
[10:33] <leeghoofd> ok, I don't know which files I showed so I will cat and post them again :)
[10:33] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: could you? and than all three ;)
[10:34] <twosouls82> :)
[10:34] <twosouls82> try this leeghoofd: kfind, find "Kaffeine.desktop"
[10:34] <twosouls82> or *kaffeine.desktop
[10:35] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11472
[10:35] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: I used updatedb and locate :)
[10:35] <twosouls82> :)
[10:35] <twosouls82> smart of yo
[10:35] <twosouls82> u
[10:36] <leeghoofd> I had the multimedia? repo in my list and installed all kind of plugins and mplayer etc, I think that messed it up
[10:37] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: it has nothing to do with that files, confirmation
[10:37] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: ok thanks
[10:37] <twosouls82> sorry
[10:38] <leeghoofd> np, thanks for your help  )
[10:38] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: if I were in your neighbourhood I would have come to see it for my own
[10:39] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: hehe :)
[10:39] <twosouls82> leeghoofd, I use Xfce's window manager in KDE
[10:40] <twosouls82> better windecos
[10:40] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: why?
[10:40] <leeghoofd> aah ok
[10:40] <twosouls82> you should try it
[10:40] <twosouls82> :D
[10:40] <leeghoofd> I like the plastik, which I use now
[10:40] <leeghoofd> but it's really ugly when a window is maximized
[10:40] <Snake__> Smoothblend FTW
[10:40] <twosouls82> I use Xfce's default
[10:40] <leeghoofd> does anyone knwo how to prevent that, it's like the borders all around are gone when miximizing?
[10:40] <twosouls82> atleast I did in suse
[10:41] <leeghoofd> yeah, xfce has really nice win decos
[10:41] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: use SUSE2
[10:41] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: windeco I mean
[10:42] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: no, I like aptitude too much :p
[10:42] <leeghoofd> that's a win deco? I will try it
[10:42] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:42] <leeghoofd> I guess I have to download it?
[10:43] <leeghoofd> hehe
[10:43] <tristanmike> I try to convince everyone on K/Ubuntu :P
[10:43] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: kde-look.org
[10:43] <twosouls82> tristanmike: lol
[10:43] <tristanmike> I beat people with Ubuntu CD's just so they know
[10:43] <twosouls82> hahaha
[10:43] <twosouls82> lol
[10:44] <tristanmike> I file the edges down so they're razor sharp and I use them as throwing disks when I'm fighting crime at night, but that's enough, i've already said too much.
[10:44] <nutshell42> leeghoofd: kde has a setting that you can still resize maximized windows, if that's set the window borders stay the same afaik
[10:44] <leeghoofd> hehe, I always used distros like archlinux, gentoo etc, but (windows) people often asked me what linux distro to try and I could never give a answer because I only knew the hard to install distros, so that' why I tried a user friendly dfistro
[10:44] <twosouls82> :)
[10:44] <vge> to install 2.6.17-rc1 do i first need to install <IP_ADDRESS>?
[10:44] <leeghoofd> and I really like it :)
[10:45] <leeghoofd> nutshell42: thanks, I will look for it
[10:45] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: this is even friendlier than SUSE, I didn't had to select my Hardware at all
[10:45] <twosouls82> not that that is so hard
[10:46] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:46] <leeghoofd> hehe, no, the only problem I have is network problems
[10:46] <xwolf-> http://hashmysql.org/1658 <--- any help please?
[10:47] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: ben nog niet zover ;)
[10:47] <vge>  to install 2.6.17-rc1 do i first need to install <IP_ADDRESS>? spaaam :P
[10:47] <nutshell42> leeghoofd: it's a checkbox in title bar->right-click->windows behaviour->moving
[10:47] <leeghoofd> one time I say a really nice kdm splash in kubuntu, with powered by gnu/linux at the bottom egraved, but it's gone now, does anyone know which I mean?
[10:47] <nutshell42> and it does what I thought it did
[10:47] <nutshell42> just tried it
[10:48] <_manu38_> thank you for all - good evening
[10:48] <leeghoofd> thanks that worked, looks much better now :)
[10:49] <nutshell42> np
[11:04] <Danny> is there any way to add things to the kde bar at the bottom?
[11:05] <vge> to install kernel 2.6.17-rc1 do i first need to install kernel <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:06] <leeghoofd> Danny: yes, click right on an empthy spot, and then "Add Applet to Panel"
[11:06] <Danny> ok thanks
[11:06] <Danny> also
[11:06] <Danny> I just installed firefox via automatix
[11:07] <Danny> where would it be located?
[11:07] <leeghoofd> sorry, I don't know about automatic, I jsut use the default package manager, I would guess it's in the start menu -> internet
[11:08] <zaaterbuntu> slt
[11:09] <sean> what is slt?
[11:13] <sean> google says nothing anout slt
[11:14] <twosouls82> people, I am missing "crt1.o", which package should it get?
[11:16] <twosouls82> I've got it "libgl1-mesa-dev"
[11:16] <twosouls82> :)
[11:25] <_pablo> hoal
[11:25] <_pablo> hola
[11:35] <twosouls82> what if I want a newer version of Gimp than 2.2.8, do I need to recompile it?
[11:36] <mrproper> i have a strange question regarding my graphics card!
[11:36] <sean> the ratio of people "coming and leaving" to "talking"  is nearly 15/1!
[11:36] <sean> what's your question
[11:36] <twosouls82> :)
[11:36] <leeghoofd> sean: that's maybe because konversation defaults to autoconnect to #kubuntu
[11:36] <sean> 2souls, are you using breezy or dapper?
[11:37] <mrproper> sean. in xorg.conf its listed as "vesa" (i have a via card), but in systemsettings it says my computer uses the "via" driver how can this be?
[11:37] <sean> leeghoofd, does that change the way it displays people coming and leaving?
[11:38] <sean> mrproper, I bet that the systemsettings is wrong. I _think_ xorg uses only it conf file
[11:38] <leeghoofd> sean: no, just trying to give an explenation why so much coming and leaving instead of talking
[11:39] <sean> twosouls82, breezy can use breezy-backports, as for dapper, I would wait a few minutes, they are usually prudent.
[11:39] <mrproper> sean, that what i thought =) thanks.
[11:39] <sean> see ya later!
[11:39] <twosouls82> sean: I am using Breezy
[11:40] <twosouls82> but what are backports?
[11:40] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: it's a repo you can add to your /etc/apt/sources.list file for newer apps
[11:41] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: but I haven't used it myself
[11:41] <twosouls82> which one do you have added?
[11:41] <twosouls82> :P
[11:41] <twosouls82> leeghoofd:  where to find them?
[11:41] <twosouls82> those backport
[11:41] <twosouls82> s
[11:42] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: I think you can just add backports to the sources lines, like:
[11:42] <leeghoofd> deb ftp://nl.ftp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe
[11:42] <leeghoofd> and then add backports to the end
[11:42] <leeghoofd> but I don't know what command to use to get a file from backports
[11:42] <twosouls82> to the end and not for dapper? ;)
[11:43] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: yep :)
[11:47] <tristanmike> twosouls82: you have the backports
[11:48] <tristanmike> twosouls82: remember the stuff we did today
[11:48] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: thanks, no newer gimp though (I will compile it)
[11:49] <twosouls82> tristanmike: indeed, but I did hear you talk about backports :)
[11:49] <tristanmike> twosouls82: did you add anything to your sources.list ?
[11:49] <twosouls82> yep
[11:49] <tristanmike> twosouls82: remove it
[11:49] <twosouls82> why?
[11:50] <tristanmike> twosouls82: backports..?
[11:50] <tristanmike> twosouls82: is that what you added ?
[11:50] <twosouls82> yes
[11:50] <twosouls82> I was told to
[11:50] <frank23> is sourceforge down?
[11:50] <tristanmike> right, you have them already in your sources.list file, what you have now is redundent
[11:51] <tristanmike> twosouls82: paste your sources and I'll show you
[11:51] <leeghoofd> twosouls82: hey don't tell him it was my fault :-)
[11:52] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: I couldn't, even if I would ;)
[11:52] <twosouls82> leeghoofd: nothing is wrong though
[11:52] <vinboy> someone is getting fired
[11:52] <tristanmike> leeghoofd: it's ok
[11:52] <docta_v> any real reason i shouldn't run dapper...it has packages i want that breezy doesn't have
[11:52] <docta_v> is it pretty stable? anyone in here using it?
[11:52] <tristanmike> docta_v: it can break at any moment
[11:52] <docta_v> doh
[11:52] <twosouls82> tristanmike: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640949
[11:52] <leeghoofd> docta_v: I use it but it's not perfect yet
[11:53] <leeghoofd> docta_v: but I'm happy with it :)
[11:53] <frank23> hmm.. this is the first time ubotu isn't here...
[11:53] <docta_v> yea but there's no OTR package for breezy and the damn thing won't compile
[11:53] <vinboy> when r they gonna release the proper version of dapper?
[11:53] <leeghoofd> first of june
[11:53] <vinboy> ic
[11:54] <twosouls82> vinboy: use Breezy untill then :)
[11:54] <vinboy> twosouls82: yup... breezy is good
[11:54] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, do you see the lines you have added ?
[11:54] <twosouls82> yep
[11:54] <vinboy> wat sound does kubuntu uses?
[11:54] <vinboy> alsa? oss?
[11:54] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ....what happend to the sources.list we had eariler ?
[11:55] <tristanmike> twosouls82: that shouldn't be your sources.list
[11:55] <leeghoofd> vinboy: alsa, it's the kernel default nowadays
[11:55] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I only added the backports
[11:55] <vinboy> leeghoofd: oh ic... i heard that there is a newer one
[11:55] <twosouls82> the rest was good you asid
[11:55] <twosouls82> asid=said
[11:56] <tristanmike> twosouls82: what happened to this sources.list http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640312
[11:56] <twosouls82> tristanmike: never had that one :P
[11:57] <lubo> hello, can anyone please tell how to make KWIFIManager join predefined network and fetch IP from dhcp after system boots up?
[11:57] <tristanmike> twosouls82: yes you did, it's your paste
[11:57] <word> I'm installing an FTP program called Kasablanca and I'm getting this error -  "checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[11:57] <twosouls82> hahah lol
[11:57] <frank23> who runs ubotu?
[11:57] <tristanmike> twosouls82: Posted by twosouls82 on Tue 4th Apr 18:19
[11:57] <twosouls82> tristanmike: it late (2006-04-04 23:57:34)
[11:57] <twosouls82> "D
[11:57] <word> any idea what's wrong?
[11:58] <tristanmike> twosouls82: lol, so do you have the sources.list I just showed you ?
[11:58] <twosouls82> tristanmike: i dunno, I did nothing
[11:58] <frank23> word: you need kde development libraries
[11:58] <twosouls82> tristanmike: have it
[11:58] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, so this..."nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:58] <word> I thought I had them...I'll look quick
[11:58] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I used Gentoo, I know nano :P
[11:58] <tristanmike> twosouls82: :)
[11:59] <tristanmike> twosouls82: is that file that comes up the same as the the link I just gave you? do they match ?
[11:59] <twosouls82> tristanmike: not at all
[12:00] <twosouls82> tristanmike: I replaced it again
[12:00] <twosouls82> and did apt-get update
[12:00] <frank23> word: install kde-devel
[12:01] <tristanmike> twosouls82: so this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/640312  is your sources.list now ?
[12:01] <lampshade> Is KDE's font really smaller than gnomes?  I installed KDE ontop of an already installed gnome ubuntu box, and I've noticed that everything font wise, etc is smaller in KDE,  is that normal?  In some cases it is so small it makes things hard to read and I have normal eyesight
[12:01] <twosouls82> tristanmike: confimative, thanks
[12:01] <Danny> how do I install thunderbird
[12:01] <leeghoofd> lampshade: start->settings->appearance->font
[12:01] <tristanmike> twosouls82: ok, I want you to do something else...
[12:01] <word> Thanks frank, it's installing like 20 different things o.O
[12:02] <Danny> I did apt-get mozilla-thunderbird
[12:02] <frank23> lampshade: you can change the font size if you want
[12:02] <Danny> and it downloaded
[12:02] <Danny> is it installed?
[12:02] <Danny> er
[12:02] <leeghoofd> lampshade: there you can adjust it, I don't know if it's normal, by me the fonts are ok in kde by default
[12:02] <twosouls82> tristanmike: and that may be?
[12:02] <tristanmike> twosouls82: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  do this command
[12:02] <lampshade> leeghoofd, but is that the default?  I guess by default are things smaller or is something messed up somewhere?
[12:02] <lampshade> hmm
[12:02] <Danny> *apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[12:02] <frank23> word: yeah
[12:02] <tristanmike> twosouls82: the sources.list file is the one I linked you to, right ?
[12:03] <twosouls82> tristanmike: now it is