 Hi! I've got a Sony Xperia 10 II and I was wondering whether it's supported by Ubuntu Touch. If it isn't, is it very hard to port it?
 You can find our supported devices at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 @UniversalSuperBox [You can find our supported devices at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io], Thank you! I saw that the Xperia 10 is supported, but not the 10 mark ii. Are you planning on supporting it any time soon?
 Every device needs a custom image made for it. You can learn more about creating a custom image for your device at EA3ICN
 uh
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/
 It would be weird to create a custom image at the other place.
 EA3ICN!
 Nice password :p
 @UniversalSuperBox [Every device needs a custom image made for it. You can learn more about creating …], I'll try to put something together, then! Thank you for the link :)
 @Fuseteam [Nice password :p], Haha, it's my amateur radio callsign 😄
 Are devices with LineageOS 17.1 or 18.1 supported?
 Currently no. There's work for Android 10 devices, but not finished yet.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Currently no. There's work for Android 10 devices, but not finished yet.], Ohh okay! I'll have to wait for that, as the Xperia 10 II only has LineageOS for 17.1+. Again, thanks for the help! 😄
 @ea3icn [Haha, it's my amateur radio callsign 😄], oh! that's how that works i see :D
[03:40] <ubptgbot> <Captain Pugwash> Hello, I have a pinephone, but there doesn't seem to have been much UBTouch development lately on it. There are a bunch of things not working still, and I was wondering if I should switch to another os
 um is there a question in there i missed?
 any progress in halium 11?]
 [Edit] any progress in halium 11?
 halium 11?! halium 10 is still a work in progress let alone halium 11
 Anyone tried ubuntu on X00TD?
 @Jigar_punadiya [Anyone tried ubuntu on X00TD?], Apparently there was the start of a community port last year - https://youtu.be/iVNsOlDry98
 @TotalSonic [Apparently there was the start of a community port last year - https://youtu.be/ …], Can I install the new update with same halium boot img?
 @Jigar_punadiya [Can I install the new update with same halium boot img?], I don't believe so - but I have zero experience with this phone - best to contact the maker of that video for instructions and to see if there has been any more progress for it made
 @TotalSonic [I don't believe so - but I have zero experience with this phone - best to contac …], Hmm let me ask to devlopers
 @dohbee [well that's not exactly true. he said he had a problem trying to build unity8, a …], Hi Rodney, I was interested in bringing Lomiri to newer versions of Ubuntu, since 16.04 was (almost at the time) obsolete. However, most of the deps could only be found in the 16.04 repos. Also, in my experimental ISO, I had noticed that `xwayland
[04:46] <ubptgbot> ` wasn't working and none of the X applications were launching, in the prebuilt packages of Lomiri for 18.04. Hence, I abandoned the effort and proceeded to develop UnityX instead, instead of working on Lomiri. I'm sorry for not responding earlier.
 Mine aquarius e4.5 is dead😥 the first sign I could not set off the Bluetooth, so I decided to reboot the phone. Forget it nothing works anymore the phone will not start even. This after the upgrade to the latest update.
 Huray after holding the start button it works duration a minute long. Pfff Bluetooth again automatic started which I do not prefer
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_DnsZHwdE&t=183s
 @ea3icn [Haha, it's my amateur radio callsign 😄], @wayneoutthere
 @Captain Pugwash [Hello, I have a pinephone, but there doesn't seem to have been much UBTouch deve …], Sorry about that. UT has a very small core team and it is necessary to prioritise. It isn't possible to make 'everything' a priority. Moving to 20.04 is the absolute essential and will consume the next few months. Foundations are bein
[08:35] <ubptgbot> g built though - continuing co-operation with Manjaro and uploads to the Debian repository have no visible effect at the moment but they will be a springboard for more Pinephone development later on
 I would like to ask about MMS messages on UT Redmi Note 7. From some people they come normally and from some as a link from phone carrier to log on their website to check the details. Do you think it could be dependent on sender's phone model? I mean the Android version they use or something like that? Or it is more issue of the phone
[08:49] <ubptgbot>  carrier? Did you have such situation?
 @AgnieszKa17 [I would like to ask about MMS messages on UT Redmi Note 7. From some people they …], Do people actually use MMS?
 yep
 I have some contacts not convinced to use any communicator, so I text and MMS with them
 Is there another way that we can donate for Anbox development, other that Go Fund Me?
 @AgnieszKa17 [I would like to ask about MMS messages on UT Redmi Note 7. From some people they …], I have seen the same thing on Android, so I think related to carrier and the size of the attachment. You could text them Nextcloud file links? Maybe they would agree to create a Nextcloud account, to make sharing even easier?
[09:05] <Menelkir> the "remote" for xml is like the tag in github?
[09:05] <Menelkir> can't find the reference for that
 @Stereofont [I have seen the same thing on Android, so I think related to carrier and the siz …], Idea is great, however I will keep with what have as this is mainly regarding older generation which I am glad is at least trying to keep up with technology 😉
 Can someone  suggest me best browser for Ubuntu touch
 @akshithsbalan [Can someone  suggest me best browser for Ubuntu touch], You can use morph, it is nice and basic
 @akshithsbalan [Can someone  suggest me best browser for Ubuntu touch], Morph is the only - apart from Tor
 hush Lionelb
 xD
 How to install for in Ubuntu touch
 *tor
 better avoid giving them Torrific ideas
 Get it from OpenStore
 Yes, Morph is fine, especially with recent improvements. Sometimes, making a shortcut with Webber (making a 'webapp') is more convenient than using a bookmark all the time
 I wasn't able to see tour in open store
 Browsers are huge bloated things, like an OS themselves. They take enormous development work, so we use a fork of Chromium = Morph
 @akshithsbalan [I wasn't able to see tour in open store], Onion browser
 Found it
 But don't buy stuff on Dark Web with it =))
 Anyone use anbox here
 @C0n57an71n [But don't buy stuff on Dark Web with it =))], Lol sure
 @akshithsbalan [Anyone use anbox here], Anbox is seriously broken and experimental. Take a look but it is not suitable for real world use and will always be quite limited
 Oh okay
 Wanted to know experience from other users
 It eats battery. Stay on charge while you experiment
 @akshithsbalan [Anyone use anbox here], I used it for WA a while ago, it worked well but I switched to WA web. There current is a gufundme to make anbox more mature.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0PvyUqI4.webp
 @ruditimmer Is there another way to donate to the Anbox development other than https://www.gofundme.com/f/anbox-on-ut?member=9523550&utm_medium=email&utm_source=product&utm_campaign=p_email%2Binviteacceptedemailtoteammember ?
 @C0n57an71n [@ruditimmer Is there another way to donate to the Anbox development other than h …], You mean via a other payment system?
 Yes
 @C0n57an71n [Yes], No sorry
 @C0n57an71n [Yes], The funding website quit with paypal becoss the policy and the high cost the charge on people.
 Any option to install VPN in UB touch
 I use proton VPN on my machine will it be available in UB touch ?
 ubuntu touch ships with openvpn
 Never tried that. Can you tell me how ?
 so you can set protonvpn up in the settings just fine
 Wow okay
 This community is really great
[10:39] <ubptgbot> Andre War was added by: Andre War
[11:08] <ubptgbot> <Captain Pugwash> @Stereofont [Sorry about that. UT has a very small core team and it is necessary to prioritis …], Cheers, LionelB. I work for a software company, so I know how development cannot be for all things immediately. A wishlist may remain a wishlist for a long while. I look forward to seeing 20.04 as the base, and I think you guys and gi
[11:08] <ubptgbot> rls are doing a great job. I got the Pinephone knowing it was experimental, so I cannot complain when not all things work. I will try the other OS's, but I like UBTouch the best, and I hopew that the Pinephone can be raised up the priority list soon.
 Given the small core team, what is actually needed is more contributors that know their way around on a kernel level
 Afaik There's one dev attempting to upgrade the kernel and he has a myriad of things to focus on as well
 And most of the remaining issues with the pinephone depends on that work
 @Captain Pugwash [Cheers, LionelB. I work for a software company, so I know how development cannot …], It's UBports (community) and Ubuntu Touch (UT) the OS just for the records :)
 @Stereofont some ping above about ham radio operator.  Ham operators... Ping me! Unite! Let's make a UT Morse code training app! Woot woot?
 @wayneoutthere [@Stereofont some ping above about ham radio operator. Not smart enough to search …], Look for 5Morsememory in the Game section of Open Store
[12:56] <ubptgbot> Lav Rai was added by: Lav Rai
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/DqGFN6uO.png
 It would be nice an app that could generate a tone and accept input from the mic, than you can use a contraption like the one that I drew =))
 The only problem is that you need to simulate the load for the speaker output, but a resistor in series should work just fine.
 @C0n57an71n [Look for 5Morsememory in the Game section of Open Store], I think i tried that one at some point but... Now I'm not carrying UT in my pocket. Sad days for me.  My telcomm connection started failing with UT some 2G 3G problem and too busy to figure out.  Will look later and thanks for reminder :)I think there are at leas
[13:24] <ubptgbot> t a handful of us here... @exar_kun me, you, German guy... etc. Anyway, maybe PM me so I don't forget who you are later and we can group up :)
 Ok
 @wayneoutthere [I think i tried that one at some point but... Now I'm not carrying UT in my pock …], https://dev.sigpipe.me/DashieHam/CuteCW
 it didn't run though
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h5NMwt5Pr7/
 @wayneoutthere [@Stereofont some ping above about ham radio operator. Not smart enough to search …], It is I, the amateur radio operator EA3ICN!!
 Is the matrix home server down? (ubports.chat)
 @gnugarro [Is the matrix home server down? (ubports.chat)], https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5626/ubports-chat-is-shutting-down-on-february-22-2021/1
 You would have received a notification of this event on January 31.
 @UniversalSuperBox [https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5626/ubports-chat-is-shutting-down-on-february- …], Oh, that's sad. Thanks
 is there irc? i need to get off telegram since its not open source
 #ubports on freenode is bridged to this channe
 [Edit] #ubports on freenode is bridged to this channel
 the problem is that there isnt chat history in irc
 wait theres a matrix bridge to the irc which is bridged to this channel
 well, the matrix group isn't bridged to here nor irc
 There's the automatically-created freenode bridge
 but yes, you can connect to any irc channel on freenode from matrix
 @akshithsbalan [How to install for in Ubuntu touch], https://open-store.io/app/onion.nanuc.org
 @TotalSonic [https://open-store.io/app/onion.nanuc.org], Thanks
 @akshithsbalan [Thanks], check the merge request there if you want more ip leek blocks
 @wayneoutthere [I think i tried that one at some point but... Now I'm not carrying UT in my pock …], oh here try this out, it converts:
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/M51nnelB.null
 (don't mind the name, just compiling random stuff and putting the binary in a working click)
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/v6INbLH2.png
 package all qt apps and publish in the store 😆
 this one is in russian, and used "beep" so i had to comment out sound parts, very broken
 oh, it had english in the menu :)
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/KQRNRhDI.png
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/bJrmA6PD.png
 oooh, qtmultimedia one?
 intresting, is slow, but sound is working
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/tjuBWcLV.null
 Does anyone know what's wrong with the InstantPho app? It was working amazingly (really great app!) but suddenly (after some update i guess) not working anymore. App starts, loads selected image but does not display image in the "effects" page and it stops working 😥. How can one reach the developers about this?
 @fedgalli73 [Does anyone know what's wrong with the InstantPho app? It was working amazingly …], Ask Rodney
 @C0n57an71n [Ask Rodney], Yeah i saw Rodney is the developer, is he the one on this forum?
 He's here
 there is something wrong with the content-hub stuff, after the qt 5.12 update, and i don't know exactly where it's breaking
 there is an in-progress branch to fix it, but i haven't gotten it working yet
 @fedgalli73 [Yeah i saw Rodney is the developer, is he the one on this forum?], yes
 @dohbee [yes], ok thanks!
 but now i have a bigger problem, my OpenStore update is STUCK 🙈, i have both wifi and 4G connections, both are working, but the OpenStore is completely stuck in update, is there a way I can kill this process ? 🙄🙈
 restart openstore?
 @mateosalta [check the merge request there if you want more ip leek blocks], Sure
 @fedgalli73 [but now i have a bigger problem, my OpenStore update is STUCK 🙈, i have both wi …], Swipe slowly from the right edge to get a concertina view then dismiss OpenStore by flicking up or down
 @Javacookies [restart openstore?], impossible
 @Stereofont [Swipe slowly from the right edge to get a concertina view then dismiss OpenStore …], did that, but still stuck. I cannot even power off the phone anymore now 🙈
 it appears in the launcher but also quitting it there does not work.
 the update bar is stuck and the OpenStore app (open) does not react.
 I need a command to kill it from the terminal....ps aux|less doesn't show me anything that I can relate to this update....
 ahh, probably a bug that happens from time to time when you update an open app or something and it becomes a rogue app 😅 … if you have nothing important open, run … `restart unity8`
 @Javacookies [ahh, probably a bug that happens from time to time when you update an open app o …], GREAT! thank you Kugi, that was helpful! I hope now the OpenStore isn't bricked 😂🙈
 but at least this killed it
 @Javacookies [ahh, probably a bug that happens from time to time when you update an open app o …], OpenStore working again! thanks! 🙏🙏
 Shouldn't it respond to `restart lomiri` … 🧐
 I don't think renaming has been completed 😄
 how to lock yourself 101
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/iT5kkERU.png
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/bjwol8H0.png mess with keyboard qml, lock device
 grabs external keyboard
 Lmao
 @Fuseteam [grabs external keyboard], Lol
 Hey @mateosalta, I'm trying to test out https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/979 the same way you are. Is Panpipe currently working on devel? I'm getting an empty Stations screen
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], So Tobiyo and Fuseteam were always been the same person? I might have missed that😁
 @TronFortyTwo [Lol], oh hey love the parabola app you made, it has always been my dream to do just what that app does xD
 @TronFortyTwo [So Tobiyo and Fuseteam were always been the same person? I might have missed tha …], always has been 😁
 @Fuseteam [oh hey love the parabola app you made, it has always been my dream to do just wh …], Thanks!
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], Yay, I did that too. Good fun, brings some sweat on one's forehead and causes some panic - on my daily driver I did that to make it worthwhile. 😝
 @TronFortyTwo [So Tobiyo and Fuseteam were always been the same person? I might have missed tha …], Tobyio on Telegram and fuseteam on matrix.
 Signal for ubport ?
 @akshithsbalan [Signal for ubport ?], Axolotl
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/mKmmk7ys.webp
 Will that remove data from my adroid phone
 @Danfro [Yay, I did that too. Good fun, brings some sweat on one's forehead and causes so …], And antsy hands because you wanted to do so much more 😂😂😂
 If I install signal on pbdevice
 Yes it will unregister you android device
 @Danfro [Tobyio on Telegram and fuseteam on matrix.], Technically i'm @fuseteam on telegram too xD
 @Fuseteam [Yes it will unregister you android device], i don't think so because it's more like using signal-desktop no?
 @Fuseteam [Yes it will unregister you android device], What about is is it same ?
 @dohbee [i don't think so because it's more like using signal-desktop no?], No its not, i believe the open store description warns about it
 oh, hmm
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/bfWSrGQC.png
 @akshithsbalan [What about is is it same ?], I'm not a signal user. so i wouldn't know, sorry
 @Fuseteam [I'm not a signal user. so i wouldn't know, sorry], 👍
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Xk4N5BrW.mp4
 Sure np
 @Fuseteam [No its not, i believe the open store description warns about it], You can have one mobile device + one desktop. Only
 So perhaps open a desktop login, deregister you android from there, then add the UT device. If that is possible…
 Best ask the developer
 [Edit] So perhaps open a desktop login, deregister your android from there, then add the UT device. If that is possible…
 @Stereofont [So perhaps open a desktop login, deregister your android from there, then add th …], Signing will deregister already iiuc
 Hmm okay
 Backups are normally possible but maybe Axolotl can't do that yet
[18:13] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> hi all, want to know whats the stability on bacon, its good for daily use, especially dialer app is stable? Because its critical for me
 @Dolinta Cristian [hi all, want to know whats the stability on bacon, its good for daily use, espec …], Good for daily driver in stable and RC channel, only bugs is the flashlight in camera app does not work and when you deactivate hotspot, you need to reboot the phone to haave wifi working again.
[18:18] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> ok thanks for answer
 but system is super stable, only once i had a random reboot in months
 @Dolinta Cristian [hi all, want to know whats the stability on bacon, its good for daily use, espec …], [Edit] Good for daily driver in stable and RC channel, only bugs is the flashlight in camera app does not work and when you deactivate hotspot, you need to reboot the phone to have wifi working again.
 @AgnieszKa17 [Idea is great, however I will keep with what have as this is mainly regarding ol …], Most probably a carrier thing. In switzerland the swisscom whitelists devices for mms. If you have a device which isn't officially sold by that carrier mms won't work. You need to reach out support and ask them to add your device to the white
[18:28] <ubptgbot> list. I did it with bq 4.5 or nexus5. But for me it wasn't worth the effort for my current devices 😅
 @stkalb [Most probably a carrier thing. In switzerland the swisscom whitelists devices fo …], Ok.
[19:38] <ubptgbot> Faustino Hendrix was added by: Faustino Hendrix
[19:57] <ubptgbot> <Faustino Hendrix> [twitt.com/ElonMuskEN](https://bit.ly/3fSWCWa) … Gosh!  EllonMuskk! announceeed cryptooo-giveawwayyyy!!
 @Faustino Hendrix [twitt.com/ElonMuskEN … Gosh!  EllonMuskk! announceeed cryptooo-giveawwayyyy!!], Please
 Someone add a captchabot
 @jja2000 [Someone add a captchabot], no
 @dohbee [no], It would fix literally 99% of your problems
 it wouldn't. and it would be more disruptive than the occasional spam post; just like telling us to add a captcha bot is more disruptive than just ignoring the spam (or right clicking on it and reporting it as spam), until it gets deleted
 @dohbee [it wouldn't. and it would be more disruptive than the occasional spam post; just …], With the amount of spammers coming into this room I sincerely doubt that
 we have pretty decent admin coverage across timezones and the spam gets deleted pretty quickly
 Also join_captcha_bot and calsibot delete their messages
 So no, it would literally not be more spam. It would just allow you to do even less moderation
 i have to spend more time moderating people suggesting "fixes" to our "problems" which we don't have, than deleting spam
 we are not going to add a crappy captcha bot
 ∎
 @dohbee [i have to spend more time moderating people suggesting "fixes" to our "problems" …], Imagine "moderating" people for giving genuine suggestions for an actual problem in your chat
 Thank you for your feedback Jasper, but we're not interested in a join moderation bot right now. Maybe someday though.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Thank you for your feedback Jasper, but we're not interested in a join moderatio …], Thank you for your proper answer
 Please don't push your luck, I'm just using what I learned from level 1 tech support.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Please don't push your luck, I'm just using what I learned from level 1 tech sup …], I think you swapped your pre-made answers with Rodney :^)
 Because I'm annoyed, yes.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Because I'm annoyed, yes.], That's sad
 @UniversalSuperBox [Because I'm annoyed, yes.], http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p611hMnrGKE
 @C0n57an71n [The only problem is that you need to simulate the load for the speaker output, b …], Why not take a headphone switch (=pushbutton) and listn for the event
 @jja2000 [Thank you for your proper answer], "proper" answer lol … spam is a problem but its not that big of an issue as you make it out to be … Look at it like this: … With a bot you have captcha messages appearing with every single join which are deleted within a few minutes. … Without a bot you have spam messages appearing every so of
[21:45] <ubptgbot> ten which are deleted within a few minutes
 @Dolinta Cristian [hi all, want to know whats the stability on bacon, its good for daily use, espec …], I have been using it since May and liking it. I would say that yes, it is stable. Camera has no flash and no zoom yet, but that's about it.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Hey @mateosalta, I'm trying to test out https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/ …], You need to add stations to your Pandora account on another device or computer first.
 @dohbee [we have pretty decent admin coverage across timezones and the spam gets deleted …], Agreed
[22:21] <ubptgbot> Avril Lavigne was added by: Avril Lavigne
[22:36] <ubptgbot> <Avril Lavigne> [https://musk-twitters.io](https://bit.ly/3sYDSIC) … Crazzzyyyy giveeeeawaaayyyy  MUSKKK!!!!
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], I dont see a problem here!
 @UniversalSuperBox [Hey @mateosalta, I'm trying to test out https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/ …], yeah, it loads. but you need stations from an account first.
 @PhoenixLandPirate [I dont see a problem here!], You don't? You see extra security do you xD


[00:00] -ubottu:#cloud-init- Pull 4720 in canonical/cloud-init "proposed commit message because PRs are squash merged by default." [Open]
[00:10] <minimal> meena: look at that person's github profile.....large number of clones/fork of various repos and lots of PRs submitted in a short space of time
[00:22] <meena> 1,038 contributions in the last year
[00:22] <meena> that is about three times as prolific as me
[00:22] <meena> I just i should become a bot
[00:27] <minimal> in the past 3 months.....the account was only created on 23rd Sept
[01:08] <meena> i should definitely become a bot
[01:19] <minimal> meena: the pay isn't good but the hours are ;-)


[02:03] <SergioEDuran1> Hi there
[02:03] <SergioEDuran1> I am back again
[02:04] <SergioEDuran1> I have FINALY blocked ChanServ and NickServ users :)
[02:05] <SergioEDuran1> finaly I am free to join FreeNode with not worrying about the anoying messages from the nick and channel services
[02:05] <SergioEDuran1> hehehe
[02:06] <cfhowlett> SergioEDuran1, ask your ubuntu support question then
[02:06] <function9x> I have a secondary hard drive that is show on my desktop, how do i blacklist that secondary hard drive?
[02:07] <function9x> i got the uuid
[02:07] <cfhowlett> function9x, I don't know about blacklist, but you can edit automount settings.  ask in #ubuntu
[02:07] <function9x> ok will do
[02:15] <SergioEDuran1> Ok cfhowlett
[02:26] <SergioEDuran1> I  will do my question but first  I will do an update of my repos and an upgrade :)
[02:27] <cfhowlett> from 11.04?  eolupgrade is going to be a whole lot harder than a clean installation
[02:36] <SergioEDuran1> Friends how can I solve  this issue with the Minetest installation? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12599522/
[08:48] <sakrecoer> Hi! i'm experiencing problems with ssh-add in combination to gnome-keyring-daemon.  So i'm guessing it gets stored in gnomekeyring, but where are the remainings of the keypair stored?
[09:57] <sakrecoer> it's driving me nuts... there nothing to be found in ~/.ssh/ yet the system claims thats where it gets the identity from...
[09:58] <sakrecoer> ssh-add -D is failing miserably. -d states the idenitiy was removed, but -l shows it anyhow..
[10:06] <sakrecoer> ssh agent (gnome keyring SSH agent) is unchecked in the startup application... but it is present on ps aux...?
[10:12] <sakrecoer> ok... this explains a lot... http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/53193 but then again, WHERE is gnome-keyagent storing my keys??
[10:33] <medicijnman> my printer won't print any jobs i send. i rebooted both the printer and my machine but still nothing happens. i had to install hpdoctor in order to make the printer work
[10:33] <function9x> ok
[10:33] <medicijnman> cancel -a and then sending a print job with evince does not help either
[10:34] <function9x> was it working well before?
[10:34] <medicijnman> yes up until i aborted the job while standing next to my printer because the ink cartridge was empty
[10:35] <function9x> uhuh
[10:35] <cfhowlett> medicijnman, ensure that the print queue is empty??
[10:35] <medicijnman> so i replaced the black ink cartridge and printed a test print but now it doesn't accept any jobs
[10:35] <function9x> brb
[10:35] <medicijnman> cfhowlett: lpq -a says 'no entries'
[10:36] <medicijnman> key 20 in hp-info reads:
[10:36] <medicijnman> 20 printer-state stopped (5)
[10:36] <medicijnman> key 22 reads
[10:36] <medicijnman> 22 printer-state-reasons paused
[10:36] <medicijnman> i don't know what the keys were when it worked, so i don't know what those keys should be
[10:38] <medicijnman> my model: hp officejet 7410 all-in-one
[10:45] <medicijnman> using google i can only find threads that state they can't print using wifi, but i use a cable. some threads say their printer won't boot but mine does boot.
[10:46] <cfhowlett> medicijnman, bring it to #ubuntu for more eyes
[10:46] <medicijnman> cfhowlett: okay, i'll ask it there then. thanks for the print queue suggestion
[10:47] <cfhowlett> best of luck
[11:36] <knob> Good morning/evening everyone =)
[14:26] <Guest44371> Hi, can someone explain me I can add a fonction to only touch my pad to click?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> Guest44371, you mean "one click" ??
[14:26] <Guest44371> yeah for exemple
[14:26] <Guest44371> (I am french ...)
[14:27] <cfhowlett> that's .. not a function, is it??
[14:27] <Guest44371> do not know that's why I'm asking
[14:27] <Guest44371> because it works on lubuntu but not on xubuntu
[14:28] <Guest44371> I am on a pc and i have bought this pad wich is exellent but I can not click by only touching in
[14:28] <Guest44371> it
[14:28] <holstein> Guest44371: check the touchpad settings in the UI.. see if you find what you need there.. "enable touchpad clicks".. for example
[14:28] <Guest44371> what is a UI?
[14:28] <Guest44371> (sorry)
[14:29] <holstein> Guest44371: in the menu, where the settings are, for the touchpad..
[14:30] <dkessel> i have a problem with my wife's xubuntu 14.04 installation. all of a sudden, a lot of icons cannot be displayed anymore. and when trying to create a screenshot of the problem, the system says "png is no supported image type" (in german).
[14:30] <dkessel> which could even be the source of the problem :/
[14:31] <cfhowlett> Guest44371, user interface
[14:31] <dkessel> are there any logs i could check?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> still trying to figure how wifi would lead to no .png support in screenshot ...
[14:36] <flocculant> cfhowlett: wife not wifi :)
[14:37] <holstein> dkessel: i would want to see a few things, personally.. i would test the memory, and hard drive, and file system.. then, i would check the user account config, and see if the issue is related to only that one user.. then, i would look for updates that may have "broken" something.. also, any unsupported PPA packages..
[14:37] <cfhowlett> flocculant, lol.  OK that was not the way I read it, so ... honest mistake.  sorry Mrs. DKessel.
[14:37] <cfhowlett> and with that, I clearly need to exit.  later.
[14:38] <dkessel> lol :)
[14:38] <flocculant> :)
[14:40] <flocculant> dkessel: I'd start by trying guest account - which will deal with holstein's user configs suggestion
[14:40] <holstein> yup.. thats an easy way to see if its isolated to the user config, or not..
[14:43] <dkessel> good idea
[14:43] <dkessel> tried that. the guest session shows the same problems. uploading a screenshot...
[14:44] <holstein> so, it can be a system-wide issue, with a PPA package, that is causing a conflict.. do you have PPA's? could be a system issue.. ram, filesystem, hard drive failing.. etc..
[14:49] <dkessel> i'll see what i can find. here's a screenshot: https://imgur.com/c1asLtt
[14:50] <dkessel> mhhh "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" complains about unfinished package upgrades...
[14:50] <holstein> dkessel: are you using compositing? compiz? have you added any ppas?
[14:50] <holstein> i suggest "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share error for troubleshooting..
[14:53] <dkessel> i'm running "sudo dpkg--configure -a" first, as apt-get suggests...
[14:54] <benguk> hi all
[14:54] <dkessel> hah. well... that solved it. maybe some trouble with the nvidia kernel module... it got rebuilt while "--configure -a" did its work
[14:55] <dkessel> thanks for your help guys. the ppa thing nudged me to have a close look if some upgrade went wrong..
[14:56] <flocculant> glad to see the wifi's machine is ok now :)
[14:56] <benguk> has anyone sucsessfully got x11vnc to start using upstart? been reading guide after guide but ot just doesnt want to start
[14:57] <benguk> looking at the logfile for x11 vnc its suggesting cant open display 0
[14:58] <benguk> which in turn suggests its trying to run before x has started. What it should be doing is running when the login screen comes up
[14:59] <dkessel> flocculant: yeah. "it" will be happy to hear that
[14:59] <flocculant> :)
[15:00] <benguk> for the most part followed this guide and indeed every other guide or post is pretty much the same http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/
[16:58] <xubuntu67w> hello everyone! i have a problem with my xubuntu install, maybe you guys can help !
[16:58] <xubuntu67w> i get a blank screen during the boot sequence, that is after the initial bios screen until my xfce desktop starts! no grub, no booting messages, no nonthing
[16:59] <holstein> xubuntu67w: i have seen that, with certain GPU' and GPU drivers..
[16:59] <xubuntu67w> apart from that, everything works fine. i can see the shutdown sequence when im turning of the pc
[16:59] <holstein> i know, i just appreciated that it worked at all, since, i had had issues with the hardware supporting linux, in the past..
[17:00] <xubuntu67w> hmm yes i think too its got to be something driver related
[17:00] <xubuntu67w> do you know if i cn tweak the display settings for the boot sequence somehow?
[17:00] <xubuntu67w> maybe change resolution ?
[17:00] <xubuntu67w> or something like that?
[17:01] <holstein> i typically just try different drivers, if they are available..
[17:01] <holstein> i'll even try the vesa driver, just to see if its related to GPU driver support
[17:01] <xubuntu67w> i think im using the latest ones from nvidia
[17:01] <flocculant> I don't see anything till login - I don't expect to
[17:01] <holstein> yeah ^
[17:02] <flocculant> if you want to see grub for some reason - set that to do so
[17:02] <xubuntu67w> im used to seeing the boot sequence tho
[17:02] <holstein> thats just what i expect from the nvidia drivers, as well.. though, i have been able to tweak around, and use the open driver, for example
[17:02] <holstein> xubuntu67w: sure. but, do you *need* to see it?
[17:02] <xubuntu67w> (even hitting escape to see each line as it pops up.. very hacker-y lol)
[17:02] <flocculant> if you really want to see booting text then set it do so
[17:02] <flocculant> you can do both editing grub iirc
[17:02] <holstein> !text
[17:03] <xubuntu67w> i know ubottu, but i dont see the grub menu during boot
[17:03] <flocculant> holstein: I think removing quiet and/or slash would be more appropriate
[17:03] <xubuntu67w> i will probably have to change the settings after startup and restart..
[17:03] <holstein> sure.. i dont think that will actually effect it.. but, you are welcome to try
[17:04] <flocculant> http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time
[17:04] <xubuntu67w> so if you had to bet
[17:04] <xubuntu67w> gpu drivers ?
[17:04] <holstein> xubuntu67w: ^ try that, first.. see that grub is set to be shown..
[17:04] <flocculant> http://askubuntu.com/questions/477821/how-can-i-permanently-remove-the-boot-option-quiet-splash
[17:04] <xubuntu67w> id guess it wont hurt to try and  use some other driver..
[17:04] <holstein> xubuntu67w: ^ try that first..
[17:04] <xubuntu67w> yeah i guess ill give it a shot
[17:05] <xubuntu67w> thanks guys ! i hope i wont come back with the same problem !
[17:05] <holstein> come back all you want .. this is not really a problem, but something you'll need to configure :)
[17:05] <flocculant> yep :)
[17:05] <xubuntu67w> yeah probably more an annoyance than a problem
[17:05] <xubuntu67w> anyways thank you all :)
[17:05] <holstein> well, if its just that grub is hidden, thats a "feature"..
[17:08] <Replop> Hi !
[17:10] <Replop> I'm currently downloading the LTS   .  how can I get a LiveUSB from it  ?   just dd if=xubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso  of=/dev/sdX    , for relevant value of X ?
[17:11] <genii> Yep
[17:11] <Replop> cool
[17:13] <Replop> my next step will be to boot the system with it,  and mount an existing partition  .... remotely , while trying to explain it to the one doing it
[17:47] <function9x> hi guys, how do i check which version of xfce i have
[17:48] <function9x> nm found it
[18:55] <exussum> Hi all. I have just installed xubuntu on a new machine, All of my others when sshing ask for a key to unlock the private key, The new install asks on the command line each time. What am I missing to make  it ask me once per session ?
[19:22]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[19:31] <bahaa> hi guys
[19:31] <bahaa> I'm new here and I like xubuntu
[19:32] <knome> hello, glad to hear
[19:32] <bahaa> I'm using ubuntu on my desktop for 8 yrs till now
[19:33] <bahaa> and I choosen xubuntu for my old netbook
[20:06]  * rampiesxubuntu31 slaps rampiesxubuntu31 around a bit with a large fishbot
[20:17] <knome> rampiesxubuntu31, excuse me?
[20:22] <xubuntu78w> Whenever I restart, my file explorer (thunar) opens.
[20:22] <xubuntu78w> To a specific location.
[20:23] <drc> and...?
[20:23] <xubuntu78w> I'm thinking this is related to me using the "save session for later" option at restart. However, this happens even when the option to save for later is not selected
[20:24] <xubuntu78w> So, I'd like to stop thunar from automatically opening at start-up
[20:24] <drc> rename ~/cache/sessions make sure "save session for later" is not checked, log out in and.
[20:25] <drc> rename ~/.cache/sessions that is.
[20:25] <drc> YOu probably saved a session earlier and it's still there.
[20:26] <xubuntu78w> In "~/.cache/sessions" I see three files along with a thumbnails folder
[20:27] <xubuntu78w> one of those three is named "Thunar-28e7a066e-3b25-457f-8ac0-5fdf582e3d33"
[20:27] <xubuntu78w> the second is a .bak file
[20:27] <drc> Rename sessions, so you can rename it back if it turns out you need something there.
[20:27] <xubuntu78w> and the last one ends in ":0"
[20:27] <xubuntu78w> Alright
[20:28] <xubuntu78w> I renamed the folder.
[20:28] <xubuntu78w> Going to try a reboot and name it back
[20:28] <drc> log out/in
[20:29] <xubuntu78w> Okay, log out
[20:29] <xubuntu78w> Thanks
[20:29] <drc> np...enjoy.
[23:35] <ta> hello
[23:35] <drc> Hello
[23:37] <ta> just installed xubuntu, do you know of a good web dev editor?
[23:38] <drc> Nope, you'll have to wait for someone who actually does that stuff.
[23:40] <ta> no prob, thanks
[23:40] <drc> Have you taken a look in the Software Center?
[23:42] <ta> no, xubuntu is installing right now, im still on a live CD, but there was a link to this chat in the installler
[23:44] <drc> Ah, ok.  Once installed, take a look in the Ubuntu Software Center, search for something like "editor" "web editor".  The apps often have ratings and reviews, so you can look at those.
[23:44] <drc> Not sure if the USC lists everything on the LiveCD, but you could look.


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBbiT40Eak
[08:39] <thetick> Hi.  I'm not seeing the new lunar lobster open.
[08:39] <thetick> Using
[08:40] <thetick> do-release-upgrade -d
 Hah, I just left Prague on Saturday! :) (re @RikMills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBbiT40Eak)


 hi guys, i'm sorry if i am disturbing you but i have a problem, seems that the update to 5.27 in the backports is borked, i have tried to update but 42 packages are held back cos some dependencies arent there, i thought it was just me but it seems others are encountering this problem too, and i am trying to contact the maintainer to make him/her aware of the situation
 anyone here could lend a hand?
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree... Done
 Reading state information... Done
 Calculating upgrade... Done
 The following packages have been kept back:
   baloo-kf5 frameworkintegration kio kross ktexteditor-data ktexteditor-katepart libkf5baloo5 libkf5declarative-data libkf5declarative5 libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5
 i have tried using the sudo apt full-upgrade but i still have some packages that wont update
 It appears some packages are held up and if you ran updates, you most likely have lost your plasma desktop. (re @Arang: i have tried using the sudo apt full-upgrade but i still have some packages that wont update)
 At the moment, the only recovery is to PPA purge https://itsfoss.com/ppa-purge/
 Ok
 I can timeshift back but I wonder if the maintainer is aware
 Good to hear you had timeshift enabled!  I will inform the maintainers.
 Please do so
 Let me know if timeshift fails and you need assistance recovering.
 I will, thanks for your kindness
 I posted details on the Kubuntu-dev channel.  I suspect most maintainers are sleeping atm.  Some of these issues are due to stuck packages beyond the control of Kubuntu devs blocking  package set builds, so we may have to wait until upstream blockage is resolved.
 Well it's understandable it's late here and maybe there too
[07:26] <iomari891> greetings, I updte to plasma 5.27 a few weeks back.  IS this normal?
[08:59] <Fravialis> Hi all. Anybody else having problems with multimonitor and e.g. the laptop's own screen being unable to set a background for? Not even getting the right-click context menu? There was a bug report but they closed it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975
[08:59] -ubottu:#kubuntu- KDE bug 353975 in plasmashell "Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)" [Major, Closed: Duplicate]
[09:00] <Fravialis> Also, KDE apparently forgets desktop backgrounds as well and reverts to the ugly default
[09:00] <fusionfutureTele> Fravialis: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465050
[09:00] <Fravialis> That is on actual monitors
[09:00] -ubottu:#kubuntu- KDE bug 465050 in plasmashell "Desktop containments get misplaced on multimonitor setup" [Normal, Unconfirmed]
[09:00] <Fravialis> Also, konsole starts up very small and never resizes to a normal size again on startup - I have to manually resize it time and again
[09:01] <fusionfutureTele> Fravialis: are you using wayland?
[09:01] <fusionfutureTele> if you are using wayland it's expected since ubuntu's qt misses many important patches
[09:02] <Fravialis> X.org
[09:02] <Fravialis> Kubuntu Jellyfish
[09:03] <Fravialis> Jammy Jellyfish, in fact.
[09:03] <fusionfutureTele> plasma 5.27?
[09:34] <arraybolt3> I don't think Plasma 5.27 is available for Kubuntu 22.04 yet, even in the Backports repo.
[09:35]  * arraybolt3 could be behind the times though
[09:35] <arraybolt3> I'd expect Plasma 5.24.
[09:42] <Fravialis> I have some information from apt, but how to most efficiently check this from the commandline?
[09:42] <Fravialis> I don't have "dnf"
[09:47] <arraybolt3> dpkg-query -s plasma-workspace | grep -i version
[09:47] <Fravialis> Version: 4:5.24.7-0ubuntu0.1
[09:47] <arraybolt3> For me that outputs "Version: 4:5.24.7-0ubuntu0.1" - the "4:" can be ignored. It shows I'm using 5.24.7, I believe.
[09:48] <arraybolt3> Yeah, looks like yours is the same.
[09:49] <arraybolt3> Fravialis: If a right-click doesn't give you a context menu, that sounds like plasmashell died.
[09:49] <arraybolt3> Fravialis: Does KRunner work if you press Alt+F2?
[09:49] <arraybolt3> If so, type "plasmashell --replace" into KRunner and press Enter. (Don't run it in a terminal, use KRunner specifically.)
[09:50] <arraybolt3> (Otherwise you'll have to keep that terminal open for the rest of your computing session.)
[09:53] <Fravialis> arraybolt3: right-click works for all other desktops except the laptop's own screen
[09:53] <Fravialis> Same with setting desktop background
[09:53] <yossarianuk> hi - i am running 22.10 + plasma ppa - yesterday I got the 5.27 update (very nice it is BTW - highly recommend it)
[09:53] <arraybolt3> Fravialis: Oh weird. OK, can you open monitor settings?
[09:54] <arraybolt3> You might be able to move things around a bit and hit Apply, then move then back and hit Apply again and maybe "shake" it into working.
[09:54] <yossarianuk> however today i have over 130 updates  (Plasma related)
[09:54] <yossarianuk> But getting dep errors
[09:54] <yossarianuk> i.e
[09:54] <yossarianuk> Dependency resolution failed:
[09:54] <yossarianuk> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libkf5parts-plugins: Depends: libkf5parts5 (>= 4.96.0) but it is not going to be installed
[09:54] <yossarianuk> is this just a case of waiting  ?
[09:54] <arraybolt3> yossarianuk: I've seen several people report something awry with the backports PPA on 22.10. Probably just wait, the devs will find out soon and fix it.
[09:55] <arraybolt3> (And if they don't find out soon I'll sound the alarms until they notice :P)
[09:55] <arraybolt3> But I think they've already been told about it.
[09:56] <yossarianuk> arraybolt3: ok thanks - my error was in discover btw - i did notice uisng 'apt full-upgrade' my system would remove things like
[09:56] <Fravialis> arraybolt3: yes, I can open monitor settings on the other displays, but moving around, applying and reverting has no effect on the problem. It's my primary display though, and I've got my IRC client in konsole active on it right now
[09:56] <yossarianuk> k3b khotkeys kinfocenter konsole konversation krdc ktorrent kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-settings-desktop libkf5kdelibs4support5, etc
[09:56] <yossarianuk> so i'll wait - thanks
[09:56] <arraybolt3> yossarianuk: Yeah, that's the same error others have reported.
[09:56] <Fravialis> Also, KDE appears to forget my desktop background on my leftmost monitor
[09:56] <yossarianuk> good work on getting 5.27 in anyway
[09:57] <arraybolt3> Fravialis: That's really, really weird. I'd give "plasmashell --replace" in KRunner a try anyway, I've seen that fix a similar problem before.
[09:58] <arraybolt3> Fravialis: Note that the above *might* cause some apps to close, but Konsole probably isn't one of them.
[09:58]  * arraybolt3 wishes I had thought to say that earlier
[09:58] <arraybolt3> Fravialis: So save important work before doing that.
[09:58] <Fravialis> Already did it haha
[09:58] <Fravialis> It does have an effect, right-click available now
[09:58] <Fravialis> However, it'll probably recur once I reboot
[09:59] <Fravialis> I have bunch of autostart stuff, I hope none of that is responsibel
[09:59] <arraybolt3> Hopefully not, you just did the equivalent of "rebooting" the desktop.
[09:59] <arraybolt3> So hopefully it was a random glitch (though if this happens reliably upon reboot then we have problems).
[10:00] <arraybolt3> It almost sounds like your laptop screen wasn't detected right or something by the time plasmashell made your desktops? I dunno, that's just a guess.
[10:00] <Fravialis> It appear that the latter is the case. On top of that, konsole is autostarted as well but always starts very small. I tried creating a new Konsole profile and hard defining an intitial size, but that didn't work.
[10:00] <Fravialis> It refers to a setting regarding automatically storing window diminsions under General, but I don't see that option at all
[10:01] <Fravialis> dimensions*
[10:03] <arraybolt3> Fravialis: I wonder, do you have session restoration disabled?
[10:04] <arraybolt3> System Settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Desktop Session -> When logging in
[10:04] <arraybolt3> If that's set to "Restore previously saved session", that might be causing wonkiness, though I'm again not sure.
[10:05] <arraybolt3> I'm mostly taking shots in the dark, trying to think of things that might affect this sort of thing.
[10:09] <Fravialis> It is indeed set to that
[10:12] <Fravialis> I'll try a restart in a bit
[10:17] <TomTom> Hi I am using the backports PPA. There is currently  something not OK I guess. Some dependencies can not be met anymore and KDE/Plasma is no longer running... Is that only on my side or somehow known? Thanks
[10:21] <TomTom> Ok I've read the backlog. It seems I am not the only one...
[10:29] <yossarianuk> TomTom: yes same - i wouldn't use ' apt  full-upgrade' at present at it will remove many important packages
[10:29] <yossarianuk> at  least you have 5.27 ... Seems really good so far
[10:40] <TomTom> They fixed it :-) Thanks!
[10:42] <TomTom> The only reason to do an update today was that I was experiencing a plasmashell memory leak and hoped that an update would have fixed it. But lets see if this comes true now.
[10:58] <yossarianuk> FYI: The PPA issues are now resolved
[10:58] <yossarianuk> if you refresh apt/discover you'll see everything is working  now
[11:02] <yossarianuk> just installed remaining updates (178 of them) using 22.10 PPA and everything is now cool
[11:23] <arraybolt3> \o/
[11:39] <RikMills> TomTom: yossarianuk sorry about that. the script we use to copy packages to the ppa was erroring out about half way through, so dependencies were missing
[11:42] <yossarianuk> RikMills: np  - glad we have plasma 5.27 - its the best version ..
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 Please what could be the issue that leads to baloo search results (from kickoff and krunner) not launching when clicked?
 The results appear accurately, but the clicked (or pressing enter) it just flashes some icon on the taskbar and then nothing else
 Kubuntu 22.10 install
[18:18] <weedmic> I just installed kubuntu and had a horrible issue, which turned out to be snap related.  i removed the snap version, and ppa, an installed the regular one.  but I was just curious.  why did you start using snap?
[18:19] <skramer> What's that bug in 22.04 that, affter the system wakees up from suspend, the windows are resized and placed randomly somewhere on primary monitor only?
[18:19] <weedmic> is there some advantage?  like it requires less testing?  more stable?  this is not a complaint, just trying to find out the reason/thoughts.
[18:20] <skramer> It happens after I send my laptop to sleep, but also when I just left for a while and then want to start working again...
[18:21] <skramer> Never had such issues in previous version, though
[18:21] <weedmic> skramer: i had a fix for that, it's been in kde for quite anwhile.  you setup the icons on the smallest monitor with the others unplugged.  shutdown.  plug the other monitors in and it works.  but of course, the icons don't reach the right of the biggest monitor, but they don't move around.
[18:26] <alkisg> weedmic: you're asking at the wrong channel, I don't think any snap developers are here :)
[19:31] <Guest3432> Firefox browser on Ubuntu 22 working only second click during startup
[19:33] <Guest3432> Its not from Firefox Browser
[19:37] <Guest3432> Same issue while trying with different laptop
[19:41] <Guest3432> Gnome Graphic