[07:54] <nn531> cables, thanks but where do I go to modify it, preferences doesnt let me do what I want
[07:54] <siimo> dylock: also i do have a cheap dlink adsl modem/router that has a ethernet port + usb port
[07:54] <Exploit> ok but that http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Broadband_ADSL.2FPPPoE_Client_.28RP-PPPoE.29 guide req a net connection in kubuntu to download  client
[07:54] <cables> Athensman, copy this by selecting it, and paste it into the terminal with ctrl-shift-paste. Then hit enter
[07:54] <dylock> interesting
[07:54] <Amaranth> Athensman: go back into Synaptic and install libxine-extracodecs
[07:54] <Amaranth> Athensman: then try to play your DVD again
[07:54] <Athensman> k
[07:54] <cables> Amaranth, you take over :)
[07:55] <cables> nn531, I mean MODIFY it. Rewrite it. Change the inner workings... that's the only way to change a theme's colors
[07:55] <cables> nn531, or try to find another version of that theme
[07:55] <pibarnas> ferronica I think it won't work with this one...
[07:55] <happytron> does gnome-terminal crash like 10 times a day for anyone else?
[07:55] <nn531> cables, is there a file i should be looking for?
[07:55] <bicycledaave> hi all, I have a Atheros wireless card that works fine with dapper and edgy,but not with now feisty beta.  But what confused me is that lspci & lsmod show that the card is recognized and ath* modules are loaded, but iwconfig shows no wireless extension.  why?
[07:55] <cables> nn531, I'm not sure...
[07:55] <captstevenhiller> anyone how to copy a file to a root owned directory?
[07:56] <pibarnas> ferronica Do this: move the package after download to ~/.icons
[07:56] <cables> bicycledaave, I had problems with wi-fi in Edgy betas, but it worked fine in Dapper and in Edgy final... no idea why your atheros isn't working, mine works fine in Feisty.
[07:56] <cables> bicycledaave, you should report a bug
[07:56] <pibarnas> ferronica and go there! once there, extract the package! it's done. After it, just select with theme selector.
[07:56] <cables> captstevenhiller, sudo cp <originalfilepath> <newfilepath>
[07:56] <pibarnas> ferronica that's it!
[07:56] <Athensman> the multi media player that cam e with this OS should be fine to use???
[07:57] <cables> pibarnas, he wants to change the color of the theme
[07:57] <morgWork> hey guys
[07:57] <rredd4> bicycledaave  did you try #ubuntu+1  they support feisty...
[07:57] <ferronica> pibarnas: what what
[07:57] <cables> Athensman, yes, but a good alternative is VLC... install that through Applications>Add/Remove
[07:57] <ferronica> pibarnas: ok downloded on desktop
[07:57] <Exploit> i think only LAN port works  for me....not ADSL through USB
[07:57] <Athensman> ok one sec
[07:57] <bicycledaave> thanks, guys
[07:57] <cables> Athensman, but there's no reason to use that if Totem (the default) is okay
[07:57] <pibarnas> ferronica open nautilus and on its bar put ~/.icons
[07:58] <Athensman> it isnt totem
[07:58] <rickyfingers> hey everyone, I've been experimenting with beryl for a few days now, and I'm totally infatuated with it.  I took a screen shot that I will use to show windows users the future...I posted it to my web site in case anyone's curious: http://rootser.com/linux-ownage.png
[07:58] <Athensman> gxine
[07:58] <pibarnas> ferronica drag and drop.
[07:58] <bicycledaave> i'll go that channel and have a try
[07:58] <Jimmy> I've installed SWAT (Samba web-based tools), and when i type this in browser: http://localhost:901 , I get "Problem Loading Page" .. Please help!
[07:58] <ferronica> pibarnas: how to open nautilus
[07:58] <cables> pibarnas, sorry, I got that wrong... wrong person, sorry
[07:58] <morgWork> suppose you had the following route that you'd like to remove... "<IP_ADDRESS>     *               <IP_ADDRESS>     U     0      0        0 eth1"  What would be the correct route syntax? I thought "route del <IP_ADDRESS>" woulda covered it but I get a "SIOCDELRT: No such process" error.
[07:58] <morgWork> any thoughts?
[07:58] <erichj> Jimmy: have apache installed?
[07:58] <pibarnas> cables what, pal?
[07:59] <Jimmy> erichj, Do I need apache installed for swat to operate ?
[07:59] <cables> pibarnas, I said something but realized you weren't talking to the person I thought you were talking to
[07:59] <erichj> Jimmy: yes
[07:59] <pibarnas> ferronica places>my home (something like that - mine's translated).
[07:59] <pibarnas> cables okay!
[07:59] <Jimmy> erichj,  is it cause, anything that needs to operate with http://localhost have to have apache, since it's a web server?
[07:59] <Bonez56> hi, i'm using the fiesty fawn beta and was just wondering if there is any support for easyubuntu/automatix or anything similar yet?
[07:59] <pibarnas> Is there any application to listen web radios that comes with radios ips to sintonize? Except bmpx (it's too buggy), please.
[07:59] <ferronica> pibarnas: Ok opened home folder
[07:59] <erichj> Jimmy: yes
[08:00] <cables> Jimmy, if you installed whatever you installed from the repositories, it should have depended on Apache and automatically installed it.
[08:00] <bicycledaave> hi all, I have a Atheros wireless card that works fine with dapper and edgy,but\ not with now feisty beta.  But what confused me is that lspci & lsmod show tha\
[08:00] <bicycledaave> t the card is recognized and ath* modules are loaded, but iwconfig shows no wir\
[08:00] <bicycledaave> eless extension.  why?
[08:00] <bicycledaave> oops,sorry for that typeset
[08:00] <erichj> cables: i setup swat once, it doesn't
[08:00] <cables> pibarnas, if you want to listen to internet radio (I think that's what you mean) then you can install streamtuner
[08:00] <pibarnas> pull control+l
[08:00] <Jimmy> cables, i've used the apt-get from terminal, rather than via synaptics
[08:00] <ferronica> pibarnas: ????
[08:00] <cables> Jimmy, that will install dependencies too.
[08:01] <pibarnas> ferronica i'm here.
[08:01] <ferronica> pibarnas: now what
[08:01] <cables> ferronica, he means push ctrl-l :)
[08:01] <vladko> hi how to easy install firefox 2 in dapper<
[08:01] <pibarnas> ferronica put ~/.icons there.
[08:01] <cables> vladko, upgrade to edgy :)
[08:01] <pibarnas> ferronica and pull enter, of course! :)
[08:01] <erichj> cables: swat isn't dependant on apache, it just needs a webserver...it won't autoinstall them
[08:01] <rickyfingers> bicycledaave: it really seems like a driver problem to me...
[08:01] <pibarnas> ferronica okay?
[08:01] <cables> erichj, ok, sorry I said that to him
[08:02] <pibarnas> ferronica are u in ~/.icons now??
[08:02] <siimo> vladko: download firefox ... extract it somewhere... update your shortcuts to point to this one instead of the one that came with dapper... easy as 1, 2 and 3
[08:02] <cables> vladko, try downloading the linux version from www.mozilla.com
[08:02] <pibarnas> ferronica ~/ = your home folder.
[08:02] <morgWork> there we go: route del -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> eth1
[08:02] <morgWork> gotta give it the full monty.
[08:02] <ferronica> pibarnas:  yes
[08:02] <erichj> cables: np, swat is a pain anyway...even when he gets apache installed the config for swat sucks...unless they changed it recently
[08:03] <pibarnas> ferronica now move your new icon package to that place.
[08:03] <Exploit> whn i m using "sudo pppoeconf" after scanning its saying ports r used by another process...? ny other way to configure/install ADSL pppoe?
[08:03] <ferronica> pibarnas:  after putting it
[08:03] <pibarnas> ferronica double click.
[08:03] <Athensman> ok want me try dvd playback now
[08:03] <siimo> vladko: download this http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/<IP_ADDRESS>/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[08:03] <rickyfingers> Exploit: have you tried roaring penguin?
[08:03] <ferronica> pibarnas:  there is one Gion Icon
[08:03] <pibarnas> ferronica extract the package there (~/.icons)
[08:03] <cables> !checkinstall | siimo, vladko
[08:03] <ubotu> siimo, vladko: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[08:03] <Exploit> roaring penguin???wats dis
[08:04] <Jimmy> cables, sudo apt-get install apache SHOULD install the rest of the depencies that depends on apache to make it operate correctly, correct?
[08:04] <Athensman> ok want me try dvd playback now
[08:04] <rickyfingers> Exploit: give me a sec I'll shoot you a link.
[08:04] <pibarnas> ferronica maybe it's already installed... it's another one icon theme.
[08:04] <cables> Jimmy, not sure
[08:04] <cables> Athensman, go ahead, your choice
[08:04] <captstevenhiller> cables: i ran your line, and it just says it omits the directory
[08:04] <Athensman> k
[08:04] <cables> captstevenhiller, what?
[08:04] <siimo> cables: i dont know if you have compiled firefox before... it is not something that can be compiled with checkinstall...that is besides the point cause i am pointing vladko to a BINARY download of firefox not source
[08:04] <cables> captstevenhiller, did you remove the <>?
[08:04] <ferronica> pibarnas:  sayin archive not supported when i double click on it
[08:04] <Jimmy> erichj, apache or apache2?
[08:04] <siimo> cables: i mean cant
[08:04] <Jimmy> cables,  thanks!
[08:04] <cables> siimo, I thought checkinstall could install precompiled binaries into APT, sorry about that...
[08:04] <captstevenhiller> cables: yes, ive been having trouble with this all night though
[08:04] <erichj> Jimmy: yeah it will, but first remove swat and then install apache then install swat again...and get apache2
[08:05] <cables> captstevenhiller, can you paste the command here?
[08:05] <pibarnas> ferronica weird... what's package extension?
[08:05] <os1ris> this is a new question but in cli ... hah how do i mnt my cd drive
[08:05] <RoundyT1> how do i "save a channel" ???
[08:05] <captstevenhiller> cables: i ran "crash@crash-desktop:~/themes/Aero/gtk$ sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero /usr/share/themes" please excuse me if its my stupidity thats the problem
[08:05] <os1ris> :)) thx in advance.. i forget how
[08:06] <erichj> !mount
[08:06] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:06] <cables> captstevenhiller, is Aero a folder or a file?
[08:06] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Buuf_gnome_1_6_r4_by_djany.6-r4_tar_bz2
[08:06] <captstevenhiller> folder
[08:06] <RoundyT1> or how do i get Xchat to automatically login to certain channels?
[08:06] <captstevenhiller> cables: its a GTK theme
[08:06] <rickyfingers> Exploit: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/en/penguin/openSourceProducts/rpPppoe if you don't have issues with compiling source code to install a program, this will save you time you would have spent getting all the commands right for ppp-oe
[08:06] <pibarnas> ferronica okay... lets make some tricks...
[08:06] <cables> captstevenhiller, try sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/* /usr/share/themes/Aero/
[08:06] <pibarnas> ferronica ar u prepared?
[08:06] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Okay :)
[08:06] <cables> captstevenhiller, why is it a folder?
[08:06] <pibarnas> ferronica could you open a terminal?
[08:07] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Offcourse :)
[08:07] <erichj> os1ris: the cdrom is usually set as automount by default so you should only have to insert a cd
[08:07] <Exploit> ok ricky ill try now....let u know..thankx
[08:07] <os1ris> now how would i mount in cli :)) on server edition
[08:07] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Yes
[08:07] <cables> captstevenhiller, gtk themes are usually packed in .tar.gz files, you shouldn't unpack them...
[08:07] <os1ris> or where would the dir be
[08:07] <pibarnas> ferronica let's go then, open one and put it:
[08:07] <pibarnas> cd Desktop
[08:07] <RoundyT1> ?
[08:07] <rickyfingers> Exploit: no problema
[08:07] <RoundyT1> ?
[08:07] <RoundyT1> sorry
[08:07] <os1ris> im in ubuntu server no x
[08:07] <pibarnas> ferronica cd Desktop (pull enter)
[08:07] <ferronica> pibarnas:  what to put that theme
[08:08] <pibarnas> have you done that?
[08:08] <Athensman> stil choppy
[08:08] <Exploit> ricky there r 2 files.... rp-pppoe-3.8.tar.gz 	,GPG Signature which 1 is to install & what command to install?
[08:08] <pibarnas> ferronica the theme aren't on Desktop anymore?
[08:08] <ferronica> pibarnas:  done
[08:08] <pibarnas> ferronica can u see it there?
[08:08] <captstevenhiller> cables: should i paste the compressed file ?
[08:09] <ddonky> haha 4/20/07
[08:09] <cables> captstevenhiller, what are you trying to do here?
[08:09] <CharlieSu> captstevenhiller: pastebin
[08:09] <ferronica> pibarnas:  i back drag it on desktop
[08:09] <Exploit> is sh ill work?
[08:09] <cables> captstevenhiller, lemme check something
[08:09] <pibarnas> okay
[08:09] <erichj> os1ris: cd /mnt see if its listed
[08:09] <Athensman> cables it is still choppy
[08:09] <pibarnas> ferronica now:
[08:09] <doseryder> I have sshd running and there are users connected to my box.  How can I find out who is connected and perhaps control/manage these connections?
[08:09] <os1ris> nope no dirs listed in /mnt
[08:09] <pibarnas> mv Buuf_gnome_1_6_r4_by_djany.6-r4_tar_bz2 ~/.icons
[08:09] <os1ris> or /cdrom
[08:09] <cables> captstevenhiller, never mind, don't put the compressed in there. Put the folder there, using my command
[08:09] <pibarnas> enter again, okay?
[08:10] <cables> Athensman, no idea how to fix it.
[08:10] <Athensman> geez that is it  uh
[08:10] <captstevenhiller> cables: "crash@crash-desktop:~/themes/Aero/gtk$ sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/ /usr/share/themes/Aero
[08:10] <captstevenhiller> cp: omitting directory `/home/crash/themes/Aero/'" <- i keep getting that error message
[08:10] <ferronica> pibarnas:  i  dragged and dropped from Icon to desktop
[08:10] <pibarnas> ferronica sorry, ferronica, I do see now what's worng...
[08:10] <erichj> os1ris: try cd /dev/cdrom
[08:11] <cables> captstevenhiller, I sent you a new command... sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/* /usr/share/themes/Aero/
[08:11] <pibarnas> ferronica move it back to ~/.icons, as I said to u.
[08:11] <ferronica> pibarnas:  okay
[08:11] <os1ris> nope didnt work
[08:11] <erichj> os1ris: or type mount and see where it is listed
[08:11] <pibarnas> ferronica I don't know where was that icon creator mind...
[08:11] <ferronica> pibarnas:  now it is not in desktop
[08:12] <Athensman> is there any settings in vlc that can maybe help it
[08:12] <pibarnas> ferronica it's on ~/.icons, isn't it?
[08:12] <captstevenhiller> cables: crash@crash-desktop:~$ sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/* /usr/share/themes/Aero/
[08:12] <captstevenhiller> cp: target `/usr/share/themes/Aero/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[08:12] <cables> captstevenhiller, hold on
[08:12] <pibarnas> ferronica go there on nautilus and rename the archive...
[08:13] <os1ris> nope not mounted...s o how would i mount it  :))
[08:13] <cables> captstevenhiller, sudo mkdir /usr/share/themes/Aero/ && sudo cp /home/crash/themes/Aero/* /usr/share/themes/Aero/
[08:13] <eshaase> how do i downgrade from firefox 2.0 to 1.5? firefox 2.0 is using way too much of my CPU...
[08:13] <decalog> re all
[08:13] <epi> Guys, if im on ubuntu 6.10, does that mean solaris nvidia graphics drivers will work for me?
[08:13] <cables> captstevenhiller, it takes you a while between each command... you know you can paste into the terminal with ctrl-shift-v?
[08:13] <cables> epi, what about solaris
[08:13] <cables> ?
[08:13] <pibarnas> ferronica from Buuf_gnome_1_6_r4_by_djany.6-r4_tar_bz2 to Buuf_gnome_1_6_r4_by_djany.6-r4.tar.bz2 (pay attention to the end of the file). You will substitute underscore to dots...
[08:13] <erichj> os1ris: i'm going to assume it's in fstab but not mounted so type sudo mount -a
[08:13] <linux_user400354> can someone help me with sharing an internet connection?
[08:13] <cables> epi, there are nvidia drivers for Linux...
[08:14] <decalog> i have no edges on windows how do i bring back the edges?
[08:14] <epi> Yah, but differant distros.
[08:14] <pibarnas> ferronica now I think you'll be able to extract it.
[08:14] <cables> decalog, did anything cause that to happen?  Were you setting up beryl/compiz or something?
[08:14] <MasseR> epi: They will work
[08:14] <epi> Solaris, freebsd, linux 64...
[08:14] <CharlieSu> epi: err..
[08:14] <linux_user400354> can someone help me with sharing an internet connection?
[08:14] <epi> Which one do I take?
[08:14] <decalog> yeap
[08:14] <billy> decalog:  working with beryl?
[08:14] <decalog> i have beryl
[08:14] <cables> !repeat | linux_user400354
[08:14] <ubotu> linux_user400354: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:14] <MasseR> epi: Why not sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ?
[08:14] <dumezil> is there a way to display the hostnames, etc cached on my computer?  when i do a netstat -a, the name it returns for my ip address is one that i have no idea what it is.  i want to figure out why my computer is returning this name...
[08:14] <cables> epi, please follow this guide:
[08:15] <cables> !nvidia | epi
[08:15] <ubotu> epi: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <Athensman> whats the best tv tuner apllication?
[08:15] <epi> Ah cool cool
[08:15] <pibarnas> epi I don't think so, pal.
[08:15] <arcade> What will the next LTS version of Ubuntu be? :)
[08:15] <erichj> 7.04
[08:15] <eshaase> how do i downgrade from firefox 2.0 to 1.5? firefox 2.0 is using way too much of my CPU...
[08:15] <erichj> or wait
[08:15] <billy> decalog:  did you have edges at one point and then lose them?
[08:15] <cables> erichj, no!
[08:15] <erichj> no idea
[08:15] <decalog> nope
[08:15] <ferronica> pibarnas:  where to extract same directory
[08:15] <nexus> hey all i just have what question
[08:15] <erichj> 6.10 still has a few years
[08:15] <cables> arcade, I'm not sure, but not 7.04
[08:15] <erichj> so who knows
[08:15] <captstevenhiller> cables: http://pastebin.ca/407671 i still got errors
[08:15] <nexus> what version of gnome does 6.10 come with?
[08:15] <arcade> cables: :-/  Okay. :)
[08:15] <decalog> don't have them al all
[08:16] <erichj> 2.16
[08:16] <Athensman> whats the best tv tuner apllication?
[08:16] <epi> Total noob at linux :P Just started last night.
[08:16] <pibarnas> ferronica yep ~/.icons
[08:16] <billy> decalog: is your window manager set to beryl?
[08:16] <arcade> 6.06 certainly have a few years more, but I wonder when another LTS version will be out. :)  Much nicer to have long time support than having to upgrade/reinstall every half year ;)
[08:16] <ferronica> pibarnas:  ok
[08:16] <cables> captstevenhiller, I'm not sure... try this: alt-f2, then gksudo nautilus, then drag the folder. See if that works
[08:16] <MasseR> Athensman: Mythtv? I do not know, but I think that could be what you are looking for
[08:16] <decalog> it says that it can't work
[08:16] <nexus> ok if it is not minded, i woudl like to ask, what i would look for as far as if i wanted to d/l new themes. d/l from which section on gnom-loog
[08:16] <pibarnas> ferronica extracted? go to system>preferences>theme
[08:16] <decalog> "the windows manager
[08:16] <billy> decalog: the plot thickens.
[08:17] <erichj> os1ris: how is it going?
[08:17] <pibarnas> ferronica theme details
[08:17] <ferronica> pibarnas:  yes
[08:17] <pibarnas> ferronica icons
[08:17] <decalog> ....?
[08:17] <pibarnas> it must be there.
[08:17] <pibarnas> ferronica is it there?
[08:18] <billy> decalog:  are you familiar with a terminal?
[08:18] <billy> test
[08:18] <arshad> hi
[08:18] <decalog> not realy
[08:18] <decalog> but i can try
[08:18] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Yes it is there :)
[08:18] <pibarnas> ferronica report.
[08:18] <Athensman> how do i join another channel on here
[08:18] <cables> Athensman, /join #channelname
[08:18] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Theme is not so good
[08:18] <captstevenhiller> cables: totally worked, thanks
[08:18] <cables> captstevenhiller, cool
[08:18] <billy> decalog: click Applications > Accessories > Terminal.  oh yeah.  try to type my name somewhere in your response so i'll see it. :D
[08:18] <arshad> could anyone help me somehow setup my ubuntu right now so that it shuts down automatically after the downloads are done?
[08:18] <pibarnas> ferronica now, send me the link you've downloaded... I'd like to get it too! :)
[08:18] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Is there any other good theme for ICON
[08:19] <Athensman> hmmm
[08:19] <Athensman> nope that didnt work
[08:19] <Athensman> i am on xchat
[08:19] <ferronica> pibarnas:  http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=down&page=0
[08:19] <pibarnas> ferronica too much! tango's good one
[08:19] <Jimmy> erichj,  I get this -> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:901.
[08:19] <pibarnas> ferronica got a lool on www.gnome-look.org?
[08:19] <decalog> ok billy
[08:19] <arshad> anyone???
[08:19] <arshad> plz?!
[08:20] <Athensman> how do i join another channel on here xchat
[08:20] <billy> decalog: type `xglinfo | grep direct` into the terminal and press enter.
[08:20] <epi> Umm...noob question, I just unrestricted the copyright thing in the synaptic update device, are the updates it shows ALL workable with my computer? They only seem to be showing components I have.
[08:20] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: are you sure the web server is listening to 901? you can tell by doing telnet <server address> 901
[08:20] <shnastybiznastic> si there some reccommended way to abstract a cifs share to a point in the filesystem without resorting to good ol' smbmount?
[08:20] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: if it just hangs, then you know nobody's listening to 901
[08:21] <decalog> it seams that is blocked
[08:21] <StevenX> can someone help me getting ubuntu live cd to start up on my laptop? It works on my desktop, but not my laptop.
[08:21] <shnastybiznastic> Athensman: type /join <yourchannelhere>
[08:21] <Jimmy> rickyfingers,  isn't SWAT (web-based tool for Samba) default port = 901 ?
[08:21] <ferronica> pibarnas:  which one tango generator
[08:21] <decalog> it show's only a white square
[08:21] <billy> decalog:  have you done any editing of a file called xorg.conf ?
[08:21] <pibarnas> ferronica I don't know, but I think it's not a icon theme...
[08:21] <arshad> would anyone plz help me?
[08:22] <decalog> probably when i installed beryl
[08:22] <anirudha> Does anyone here like Mac computers?
[08:22] <arshad> i do
[08:22] <RoundyT1> Mac's are ok.
[08:22] <variant> anirudha: yeah they are nice with ubuntu installed
[08:22] <arshad> i'm a mac user
[08:22] <RoundyT1> but nothing compared to linux
[08:22] <Athensman> whats the best tv tuner apllication?
[08:22] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Tell me good one Theme?????
[08:22] <billy> decalog: what howto did you use?  can you give me the link?
[08:22] <nexus> hey guys on gnome-look if i want to new theme do i d/l gtk2.0 themes? i am a it lost on this one
[08:22] <anirudha> variant, haha lol
[08:22] <erichj> macs are ok but at the end of the day....you are using a mac
[08:22] <os1ris> arrg cant get cd to mount... im just looking for an easy way to set up nids wrapper but need drivers.. should i use the ones on cd-rom or just download them
[08:22] <decalog> kinda hard for me
[08:22] <decalog> :)
[08:22] <variant> anirudha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LAXg_UmzTY&mode=related&search=
[08:22] <MatthewV> StevenX, any error message?
[08:22] <decalog> but i can try to look
[08:23] <RoundyT1> seems as though no one likes Beryl.
[08:23] <pibarnas> ferronica Osx_mod's a good one, but I think it's a sense of taste...
[08:23] <nexus> RoundyT1: i liek it actually
[08:23] <arrenlex> nexus: gtk2 is the buttons, windows, etc. metacity is the titlebars and _OX buttons.
[08:23] <erichj> os1ris: download
[08:23] <Jimmy> rickyfingers, I'm trying to view swat
[08:23] <Athensman> does xubuntu use .gz files
[08:23] <variant> RoundyT1: I like beryl.. what gives you that idea?
[08:23] <billy> decalog: crtl+h in firefox.  Look through your history.
[08:23] <arshad> so anyone help plz
[08:23] <Jimmy> Athensman,  yup, iirc
[08:23] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: that may be so, all I'm offering is a sanity check to make sure that the problem is simply because your web server is not listening on 901.  Are you using swat with apache?
[08:23] <RoundyT1> everyone is always talking about Gnome Themes
[08:23] <nexus> arrenlex: thank you
[08:23] <pibarnas> ferronica I like buuf, for example.
[08:23] <arrenlex> Athensman: .gz files are just archives, like .zip
[08:23] <variant> Athensman: it uses the same packages as ubuntu/kubuntu
[08:23] <os1ris> so i can download them on my server box and get if from there
[08:23] <os1ris> confused.. even if its an exe
[08:23] <Athensman> well how do u install them then
[08:23] <marx2k_> I would like beryl more if it was less buggy... there are at least 1 instance during the day where I have to turn it off to get something done
[08:23] <RoundyT1> I have emerald ... is hildor or whatever it's called better?
[08:23] <anirudha> Has anyone tried the new Sun OS, Sun OS 10? If so, is it much better now without the CDE?
[08:23] <variant> Athensman: but as arrenlex says, thats just an archive format
[08:23] <Jimmy> rickyfingers, yes swat with apache WITH APACHE2 too.
[08:23] <variant> anirudha: you mean solaris?
[08:23] <arrenlex> Athensman: What are you trying t install?
[08:24] <Athensman> tvtime
[08:24] <anirudha> variant, yes
[08:24] <chowmeined> avahi-daemon wont start, if I run the init script it seems like it doesn't do anything
[08:24] <nexus> RoundyT1: i do not knwo i just started messing with Emerald, i also liked looking glass
[08:24] <arrenlex> marx2k_: Try compiz, I'm told it's more stable.
[08:24] <decalog> billy i think that i will reinstal ubuntu and then beryl again
[08:24] <Athensman> do i extract them into a folder
[08:24] <winding> help
[08:24] <marx2k_> eh... eye candy is eye candy... either way I have it off most of the time
[08:24] <arrenlex> Athensman: What are you trying to install?
[08:24] <billy> decalog: naw.  don't do that yet.
[08:24] <decalog> couse i cant uninstal beryl
[08:24] <Athensman> tvtime
[08:24] <nexus> brb
[08:24] <ferronica> pibarnas:  Ok let me download it
[08:24] <pibarnas> ferronica http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=120 play with them.
[08:24] <arrenlex> Athensman: That's in the repositories. You don't need to compile it.
[08:25] <variant> marx2k_: try updating to the latest version, still have issues with playing video on some chipsets though. afaik compiz has that issue too
[08:25] <arrenlex> !teatime | Athensman
[08:25] <ubotu> athensman: teatime: Gnome Panel applet to reminds you when your tea is ready. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-2.1 (edgy), package size 396 kB, installed size 624 kB
[08:25] <RoundyT1> I can only get the SVN version of beryl (unstable bleeding edge) with my ati card.
[08:25] <decalog> ok billy so what's to do?
[08:25] <marx2k_> variant: Im using cvs version
[08:25] <shnastybiznastic> perhaps someone knows where in the filesystem smb/cifs shares abstract to when you "Connect to Server..."
[08:25] <Athensman> i dont understand
[08:25] <MatthewV> nexus, RoundyT1 Emerald is just a window decorator for beryl
[08:25] <berl_> hello. do you guys know of a way to set a proxy only for a specific app? amarok in this case.
[08:25] <RoundyT1> well, ya.
[08:25] <ferronica> pibarnas:  How to install same as previous?????
[08:25] <variant> marx2k_: ok, that could also be a reason (cvs == less stable not more)
[08:25] <anirudha> Hey everyone, I have a friend who dual boots Windows Vista and Mac OS on his Macbook? What do you think of that?
[08:25] <pibarnas> ferronica yep.
[08:25] <variant> anirudha: we don't care
[08:25] <MatthewV> berl_, why do you need to set the proxy just for a specific app?
[08:25] <billy> decalog: do you have a red diamond in the system tray?
[08:25] <erichj> anirudha: your friend get kicked in the head?
[08:25] <arrenlex> Athensman: Ubuntu keeps like 30000 programs compiled for an ubuntu system which you can just install.
[08:26] <decalog> yes
[08:26] <RoundyT1> anirudha, vista is a problem, mac is ok.
[08:26] <arrenlex> Athensman: If software you want is not in this repository, THEN you have to compile it from source.
[08:26] <Jimmy> rickyfingers, anything else?
[08:26] <decalog> billy: yeah
[08:26] <ravehanker> I'm upgrading to feisty and dpkg falis when when trying to install kde-style-polyester_1.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (I also have kde installed) with the following error message :  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kwin_polyester_config.so', which is also in package polyester
[08:26] <ravehanker> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[08:26] <RoundyT1> i really have nothing against Mac...
[08:26] <Athensman> how do i do that
[08:26] <billy> decalog:  right click it > select window manager > metacity
[08:26] <RoundyT1> but vista....i hate.
[08:26] <arrenlex> Athensman: Since teatime is in the ubuntu repositories, you shouldn't be messing around with .gz files.
[08:26] <bicycledaave> howto start network-manager? I install the package but donno how to start it
[08:26] <arrenlex> !synaptic | Athensman
[08:26] <ubotu> Athensman: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:26] <ferronica> pibarnas:  what is that text to type
[08:26] <ferronica> icon
[08:26] <Athensman> NO NO
[08:26] <Athensman> not teatime
[08:26] <Athensman> TVTIME
[08:26] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: then check /etc/apache2/ports.conf - if apache's not configured to listen to 901, that's why you're getting the error
[08:26] <arrenlex> !tvtime
[08:26] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[08:26] <arrenlex> Athensman: That's there too.
[08:27] <Athensman> where
[08:27] <pibarnas> ferronica control+l
[08:27] <arrenlex> !synaptic | Athensman
[08:27] <ubotu> Athensman: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:27] <ferronica> pibarnas: ~icon
[08:27] <MatthewV> bicycledaave, press alt-f2 then enter 'nmapplet' iirc
[08:27] <erichj> Athensman: sudo apt-get install tvtime
[08:27] <decalog> ok billy
[08:27] <pibarnas> ferronica nope. ---> ~/.icons
[08:27] <Athensman> what is that
[08:27] <decalog> now..
[08:27] <billy> decalog: did you get your borders back?
[08:27] <decalog> yeap
[08:27] <erichj> Athensman: open a terminal and type that
[08:27] <billy> decalog: cool.
[08:27] <pibarnas> ferronica Don't forget about the dot!
[08:27] <berl_> MatthewV, i want to use the wikipedia function of amarok. being in china right now makes it necessary to use a proxy for that.
[08:27] <billy> decalog: have you found that howto you used?
[08:27] <decalog> but in this way i don't have the cool stuff of Beryl
[08:28] <bicycledaave> MatthewV:thanks
[08:28] <MatthewV> berl_, ah, and other apps dont need to use that specific proxy? if i get you right?
[08:28] <arrenlex> berl_: Well why the heck are you in china then? Get out of there.
[08:28] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: when you get an error message like that, there's only three possibilities I can imagine: 1) server's not running, 2) server's listening to the wrong port, 3) network connectivity issue
[08:28] <billy> decalog: well, if direct rendering is blocked, it may not work anyway.  you gotta figure out why it ain't workin for you.
[08:28] <jmg> hey guys when i remove the panels from my second display and restart gnome the panels come back. how can i disable them permanently?
[08:28] <arrenlex> rickyfingers: 4) server on fire
[08:28] <ferronica> pibarnas: okay
[08:28] <RoundyT1> Hey, if i have a VPN, can i connect to the VPN and use the INTERNAL IP of the Linux (Debian) Box and ssh from term ...and get in?
[08:29] <decalog> thx a lot billy
[08:29] <chowmeined> avahi-daemon is broken
[08:29] <os1ris> ok question i got the drivers from the belkin website(trying to set up ndis wrapper ) but its an exe.. no way to extract this thing.... so i need to do it on my windows box and then send it to my box from there.. correct?
[08:29] <rickyfingers> arrenlex: 5) universe is ending and laws of physics are breaking down
[08:29] <chowmeined> The init script isn't doing anything
[08:29] <os1ris> (drivers
[08:29] <os1ris> )
[08:29] <arrenlex> rickyfingers: 6) Your mom.
[08:29] <billy> decalog:  try something for me.
[08:29] <linux_user400354> how can i bridge internet connections in ubuntu?
[08:29] <berl_> well, usually i don't encounter many problems, so i dont need to route everything through a proxy. if i have to i usually connect to my uni's vpn. but that's not very practical when it's only to play with amarok.
[08:29] <rickyfingers> arrenlex: lol - eh don't talk about my mother!
[08:29] <arrenlex> Ehehehee
[08:29] <decalog> bill ok
[08:29] <RoundyT1> what is normally used to VPN via Ubuntu???
[08:30] <Athensman> damn what now
[08:30] <os1ris> is that correct?
[08:30] <decalog> what billy?
[08:30] <Athensman> i click on it and it goes black and then nothing
[08:30] <os1ris> use sll :))
[08:30] <os1ris> er ssl
[08:30] <arrenlex> Athensman: You click on what and what goes black?
[08:30] <anirudha> Hi Everyone, On Linux what is an equivalent of Windows Media Player. I have tried both Movie Player and Helix Player in the past but sometimes neither plays a video clip on a website which usually plays with Windows Media Player?
[08:30] <Athensman> tvtime
[08:30] <Athensman> i downloaded it
[08:30] <billy> decalog: hit alt+f2 and type "emerald --replace" into the little box that appears.  that's a run command box.  you can run single commands (like starting a specific program) by pressing alt+f2.
[08:30] <MatthewV> berl_, hmm... not too sure then, if the app itself doesnt have any specific proxy settings....
[08:30] <arrenlex> anirudha: mplayer
[08:30] <rickyfingers> RoundyT1: openswan but it it's for the manic...configuration was not possible for my small brain to handle
[08:31] <arrenlex> anirudha: vlc. totem.
[08:31] <arrenlex> anirudha: kaffeine
[08:31] <Athensman> how do i know if it sees my tv tuner card
[08:31] <MatthewV> anirudha, have you had a look at !RestrictedFormats
[08:31] <Jimmy> rickyfingers, I've configured the ports.conf , typed in Listen 901 .. save it, restarted apache webserver, and it's still giving me same error
[08:31] <anirudha> arrenlex, Is MPlayer the same as Movie Player?
[08:31] <shnastybiznastic> okay, this is somewhat frustrating, when I click on the properties of the smb share I mounted, it says the location is "on the desktop", but when I try to browse to it, it's not in /home/username/Desktop
[08:31] <bicycledaave> la
[08:31] <arrenlex> anirudha: I dunno. What's Movie Player?
[08:31] <berl_> MatthewV, that's the problem. it doesn't have that option. ok, i guess I have to head over to #amarok .:) thanks guys
[08:31] <anirudha> arrenlex, Well Movie Player came with my Ubuntu installation
[08:31] <decalog> ok
[08:31] <MatthewV> shnastybiznastic, the link will just be on the desktop, the actual share will be wherever you mounted it to
[08:32] <arrenlex> anirudha: That's probably totem.
[08:32] <decalog> now what?
[08:32] <MatthewV> berl_, yeh good luck :)
[08:32] <variant> anirudha: movie player is totem
[08:32] <billy> decalog: did you lose your borders?
[08:32] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: what about basic network connectivity? Can you ping the box that's hosting SWAT?
[08:32] <Athensman> how do i know if it sees my tv tuner card
[08:32] <decalog> no
[08:32] <variant> anirudha: you should try vlc and the firefox vlc plugin.. tends to play everything except anything with drm infections
[08:32] <decalog> same ....
[08:32] <billy> decalog: alt+f2 again.  type "beryl" and hit enter.
[08:32] <decalog> i think that i need to reinstall all
[08:32] <arrenlex> anirudha: Or else mplayer and mplayerplug-in, which also plays anything.
[08:33] <variant> decalog: isntall beryl-manager
[08:33] <billy> decalog: naw man.
[08:33] <variant> decalog: and run that
[08:33] <bicycledaave> hi, the network-manage still  find the wireless card, it cant see the ath device,although lspci and lsmod show the hardware and the ath* modules. why?
[08:33] <shnastybiznastic> MatthewV: that's just the thing, I don't know where ubuntu mounted it to when I gave it the share and server names.  when I try and go up a level while I'm browsing it, it just boots me back to browsing the server that the share is on.
[08:33] <arrenlex> anirudha: Lots of choices in Linux. :)
[08:33] <Jimmy> rickyfingers,  this is the box that is hosting swat
[08:33] <variant> shnastybiznastic: type mount
[08:33] <MatthewV> shnastybiznastic, ah.. i thought you had manually mounted it with a 'sudo mount...' just a moment...
[08:33] <anirudha> variant, Do I need to install both vlc on ubuntu in general and install the vlc plugin for the firefox browser>
[08:33] <rickyfingers> Jimmy: and when you open http://localhost:901 you get nothing?
[08:33] <Athensman> how do i know if it sees my tv tuner card
[08:33] <arrenlex> anirudha: Yes
[08:34] <variant> anirudha: yes
[08:34] <billy> variant:  if he's got the red diamond, wouldn't that mean he's got beryl-manager?
[08:34] <arrenlex> anirudha: You should also remove the totem-mozilla package, otherwise Firefox will find it first and try to use totem anyway.
[08:34] <variant> billy: yes
[08:34] <Schalken> I've just made a folder shared with samba, but when I try to access it from another Windows computer it asks for a username and password, of which neither my Ubuntu or Windows username and password work. What are they?
[08:34] <lkthomas> guys, what program can I use to replace adobe illustrator ?
[08:34] <Jimmy> rickyfingers,  Unable to connect
[08:34] <Jimmy>
[08:34] <Jimmy>
[08:34] <Jimmy>
[08:34] <Jimmy>
[08:34] <Jimmy>
[08:34] <variant> billy: it's an emerald :)
[08:34] <Jimmy>
[08:34] <Jimmy>
[08:34] <Jimmy>
[08:34] <Jimmy> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:901.
[08:34] <Jimmy> (sorry)
[08:34] <arrenlex> !pastebin
[08:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:34] <MatthewV> shnastybiznastic, not under /media ? iirc all that is handled through gnome-vfs so i'm not sure exactly how or if it is mounted to an actual location on the filesystem
[08:35] <rickyfingers> billy: variant: wanna see a cool beryl screen shot? here's one I posted to my web site: http://rootser.com/linux-ownage.png
[08:35] <decalog> there are no default settings for beryl?
[08:35] <billy> variant:  decalog shouldn't run install beryl-manager then, should he?
[08:35] <decalog> cose it seams that nothing work
[08:35] <MatthewV> lkthomas, Inkscape is a good vector graphics program..
[08:35] <variant> billy: nope
[08:35] <Schalken> !samba
[08:35] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:35] <Athensman> how do i know if it sees my tv tuner card
[08:35] <linux_user400354> how can i bridge internet connections in ubuntu?
[08:36] <billy> variant:  i think you may have gotten your usernames mixed up. :-)
[08:36] <linux_user400354> !bridge
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bridge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <variant> billy: what?
[08:36] <billy> decalog: remember how to get your borders back?
[08:36] <anirudha> arrenlex, how do I remove the totem package from firefox?
[08:36] <billy> variant: i don't know, man.  nevermind me.
[08:36] <Schalken> thanks ubotu!
[08:36] <decalog> or i'm stupid or i'm stupid
[08:36] <decalog> i can't do it
[08:36] <shnastybiznastic> MatthewV: hah, that would have been my first choice, but I'm trying to make the transition from slackware to ubuntu, so I decided to let the OS handle the details
[08:36] <Jimmy> rickyfingers,  can't msg you , cause my nick isn't registered, join #Jimmy plz.
[08:37] <billy> decalog:  just relax man.  don't start cutting.
[08:37] <shnastybiznastic> Schalken: you are a helpful person
[08:37] <decalog> i belive i can do it like a rednek just reinstall all
[08:37] <billy> decalog: right click Red Diamond (Emerald) > Select Window Manager > Metacity
[08:37] <os1ris> or sorry to be such a newb anyone installed ndis wrapper before.. getting fustrated.. the website gives an exe for my card.. where can u get just the drivers.. or how do i get them :(
[08:37] <MatthewV> shnastybiznastic, and the app you need to access the share doesnt support gnome-vfs?
[08:37] <Schalken> shnastybiznastic: wha?
[08:37] <linux_user400354> !brtcl
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brtcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <linux_user400354> goddamit
[08:37] <arrenlex> anirudha: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-totem is the easy way. Or, go to edit-preferences-content-manage filetypes, find all the movie filetypes and manually change each (I suggest the first way)
[08:37] <decalog> ok man that worked
[08:38] <decalog> but i'm not in beryl any more
[08:38] <shnastybiznastic> Schalken: you made the bot talk about samba
[08:38] <eshaase> how do i downgrade from firefox 2.0 to 1.5? firefox 2.0 is using way too much of my CPU...
[08:38] <os1ris> anyone got any insignt ? to my problem
[08:38] <Athensman> anyone here have a tv tuner card
[08:38] <Schalken> shnastybiznastic: so I am helpful for helping myself?
[08:38] <billy> decalog:  in the chat window here, type "/join #ubuntu-effects".  I'll join you there.
[08:38] <shnastybiznastic> Schalken: well, it helped me too
[08:39] <Schalken> oh okay i didnt realise lol
[08:39] <decalog> k
[08:39] <Athensman> anyone here have a tv tuner card
[08:39] <arrenlex> eshaase: sudo apt-get install firefox/dapper
[08:39] <RoundyT1> what is normally used to VPN via Ubuntu....any other programs? maybe easier? does cisco make any linux packages lol?
[08:40] <shnastybiznastic> MatthewV: I was trying to use rythmbox to play my music, which is all on this samba share, but it would get a few thousand songs into the library building and die.  so I'm trying to use xmms
[08:40] <arrenlex> eshaase: You'll have to pin it to that version to hold it. I think this can be done in synaptic, though I don't use that application, or else ask ubotu about !pinning.
[08:40] <os1ris> or sorry to be such a newb anyone installed ndis wrapper before.. getting fustrated.. the website gives an exe for my card.. where can u get just the drivers.. or how do i get them :(
[08:40] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: What's wrong with Amarok? :)
[08:41] <niru> Is there somebody you is involved in developing ubuntu here
[08:41] <niru> I have some doubts
[08:41] <lkthomas> MatthewV, I am wondering why gimp don't support AI format
[08:41] <arrenlex> os1ris: the .inf file is in the exe. If you're lucky, you can extract this exe with unzip or cabextract. If you're unlucky, going to have to search for the .inf itself.
[08:41] <unimatrix9> hello every one!
[08:41] <niru> Is there somebody here involved in developing ubuntu here
[08:41] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: I was under the impression that amarok was a KDE application.  You'll have to forgive me if I'm mistaken, I've been in fluxbox country so long I'm a tad out of touch.
[08:41] <pibarnas> folks, is it possible to get a resolution higher than 1024x768 on Acer TravelMate 4101WLMi?
[08:41] <MatthewV> lkthomas, AI is a vector graphics format right? the gimp is a bitmap editor
[08:41] <MatthewV> pibarnas, what graphics card does it have?
[08:42] <unimatrix9> how could i make more then one deb file to be installed at once?
[08:42] <pibarnas> MatthewV Intel.
[08:42] <rredd4> os1ris   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:42] <lkthomas> MatthewV, hmm
[08:42] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: It is a KDE application, but it's the best player there is, and it doesn't require very many KDE libs to run. A lot of people use k3b and amarok, even on gnome, because they're the best players in their field.
[08:42] <epi> Guys...just tried to install Flash :s got this message. ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[08:42] <epi>        Adobe Flash Player installer.   There is no 64-bit flash.
[08:42] <unimatrix9> for example all packages that are in my apt/archives, to slipstream to an new pc?
[08:42] <pibarnas> MatthewV to be more specific:
[08:42] <epi> ...
[08:43] <MatthewV> lkthomas, i'm not sure.. to the best of my knowledge its the most popular vector graphics editor available
[08:43] <MatthewV> on linux that is
[08:43] <lkthomas> MatthewV, ok, thanks
[08:43] <MatthewV> !FixRes
[08:43] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: ah, that's what I thought, I'm a little aprehensive about installing the big ol' kdelibs since my root is only 13G.
[08:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:43] <epi> Os there any workaround?
[08:43] <ompaul> epi, it is not free software so it is not built by the community
[08:43] <pibarnas> MatthewV  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML
[08:43] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: If you type in "sudo apt-get install amarok" it'll tell you how much space it would need to install it all. You can decide then. :)
[08:43] <ompaul> epi, install 32bit or get involved with creating "chrooted environments"
[08:44] <Athensman> anyone here have a tv tuner card
[08:44] <comodo> can anyone help me xserver crashes after installing nvidia drivers
[08:44] <unimatrix9> i had a tvcard...
[08:44] <arrenlex> epi: The easiest "workaround" is to install 32-bit instead.
[08:44] <Carsten-> comodo I have the same issue
[08:44] <MatthewV> pibarnas, intel is generally pretty well supported - intel makes open source drivers available.. maybe the above link will help
[08:44] <epi> Oh joy. Will the nvidia drivers work?
[08:44] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: that is a good point.  this is what I get for not being a debian user all those years.
[08:44] <arrenlex> epi: There are no tangible benefits to 64-bit anyway.
[08:44] <unimatrix9> worked well with tvtime
[08:44] <ompaul> epi the latter is a pain if you are running a desktop as a desktop and not a vast database server then 32bit is your friend
[08:44] <SplashTK> Hey, was just wondering if anyone could walk me through installing Ubuntu off the LIVE CD, I got Ubuntu Ultimate 1.3
[08:44] <Carsten-> its dam annoying
[08:44] <arrenlex> epi: The nvidia drivers will work with 64-bit.
[08:44] <octoberdan> Should I have ext3-modules installed by default?
[08:45] <Carsten-> Im not using 64 bit, using 32
[08:45] <ompaul> octoberdan, you can't not
[08:45] <Athensman> is there any where i can go to ask about tv tuner  cards???
[08:45] <epi> Aight, ill ignore the flash, any other upsets that could sway me?
[08:45] <octoberdan> grrr...
[08:45] <MatthewV> pibarnas, that site also has a section on resolution on intel cards
[08:45] <arrenlex> epi: codecs. Won't be able to play wmv, quicktime, realplayer.
[08:45] <unimatrix9> Ask here
[08:45] <Athensman> i have 100 times
[08:45] <epi> @#%!#!$#$
[08:45] <ompaul> octoberdan, ext3 is in the most basic of systems and what wsa the gurr for
[08:45] <pibarnas> MatthewV What site is that?
[08:46] <unimatrix9> whats the brand of tv card?
[08:46] <Athensman> bt878
[08:46] <Schalken> !smb
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <ompaul> epi, you could ask before you started but you will be stronger from the experience :)
[08:46] <arrenlex> epi: You'll have big problems running Wine. Bigger than other peoples' problems running wine, that is. Hard to get windows apps set up... not sure it's even possible.
[08:46] <Carsten-> My system is not recognising my nvidia card at all, does not show in device manager, would there be any reason for this?
[08:46] <unimatrix9> and whats the problem with the tvcard?
[08:46] <ferronica> pibarnas: how to extract this one ---->>> Neu-0.6-PR3.tar.bz2.part
[08:46] <arrenlex> epi: I say again, there are no benefits to 64-bit unless you're on a server. Stick to 32-bit.
[08:46] <Athensman> i am wondering if my system sees it
[08:46] <pibarnas> epi install i386 version. Too many headaches to save in just one single act... :)
[08:46] <anirudha> arrenlex, thanks, I will try that
[08:46] <arrenlex> ferronica: You wait for it to download completely first. :)
[08:46] <epi> Ok, is there a way to change this without having to burn another damn CD? Can I upgrade to the feisty beta (if its 32bit)?
[08:47] <octoberdan> ompaul: My newly installed kernel (2.6.17-11 from ubuntu) panics with the "no syncing" "unknown block" bull. Some one suggested I didn't have the write modules for my fs
[08:47] <octoberdan> ompaul: I've been wrestling around with kernels for the past week
[08:47] <pibarnas> ferronica it isn't complate... did you see it?
[08:47] <anirudha> btw is there a disk defragment program on ubuntu
[08:47] <unimatrix9> tvcard : i will give you an url to read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BTTV/modprobe.html
[08:47] <pibarnas> ferronica it is just a ... part! :)
[08:47] <ferronica> pibarnas: Oh yes yes
[08:47] <arrenlex> anirudha: Not needed. ext3 doesn't frag very much.
[08:48] <unimatrix9> tvcard, you can also use dmesg on terminal
[08:48] <unimatrix9> to see if its listed there
[08:48] <MatthewV> anirudha, no, disk defrag is generally not needed on linux
[08:48] <rredd4> anirudha  not need for linux!!  only windoze
[08:48] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: that's not much space at all!  Color me impressed!
[08:48] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: How much?
[08:48] <maxx18> hi does anyone know if beryl is in the universe repos yet?
[08:48] <Athensman> that site isnt loading
[08:49] <maxx18> or is it only in feisty and not edgy?
[08:49] <pibarnas> epi I wish I could help you, but I really don't know... to be sincere, I think you can't turn 64 bits to 32 one without reinstalling it.
[08:49] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: like two hundred megs or some such number.
[08:49] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Whoa... that's a lot. 0_0
[08:49] <defrysk> maxx18, it is in Feisty yes
[08:49] <bicycledaave> hi,all I lost wireless support after upgrade to feisty. I have an Atheros wireless card that works fine with dapper and edgy, but under feisty, although lspci and lsmod show that the card is recognized and the ath-* modules are loaded, I just do not have the ath device when iwconfig or ifconfig. why?
[08:49] <pibarnas> epi I'm here with a 64 bits system, but ubuntu i386... I know about headaches... :)
[08:50] <arrenlex> maxx18: beryl is in feisty. compiz is in edgy if you want to try.
[08:50] <unimatrix9> Athensman install tvtime , sudo apt-get install tvtime
[08:50] <Athensman> i have it
[08:50] <Athensman> when i click it
[08:50] <Athensman> it does nothing
[08:50] <Athensman> flash black then nothjng
[08:50] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: I'm used to the slackware package management system, where you have to install most of kde to get amarok running (~3GB)
[08:50] <maxx18> ok thanks for clearing that up guys
[08:50] <ompaul> octoberdan, you may have run into a bug, check launchpad to see if it is registered
[08:50] <unimatrix9> ok try the site again http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BTTV/modprobe.html
[08:50] <ompaul> octoberdan, are you on edgy?
[08:50] <rredd4> bicycledaave  you wanna borrow my netgear card?   lol
[08:51] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: WTF! The whole of kde doesn't take 3GB. I run kde as a desktop and my root is only 4GB in total!
[08:51] <Athensman> i am there
[08:51] <octoberdan> ompaul: Yes
[08:51] <Athensman> what am i looking for
[08:51] <unimatrix9> ok coo;
[08:51] <bicycledaave> rredd4:could I :)
[08:51] <unimatrix9> the modprobe wich you might need to do...
[08:51] <ompaul> octoberdan, well the presense of ext3 is part of the base install
[08:51] <rredd4> lol
[08:51] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: this is including the downloaded packages themselves.
[08:51] <unimatrix9> just read the whole lot, and see if it helps..
[08:51] <ompaul> octoberdan, and with that I must run
[08:51] <Athensman> i dont understand
[08:52] <ferronica> pibarnas: Ok worked
[08:52] <octoberdan> ompaul: Thanks for the info. Take care
[08:52] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: my last look at /opt/kde was something like 1.4 GB.
[08:52] <ferronica> pibarnas: Which theme do you use ???
[08:52] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Correction: my root is 3.3gb. xD
[08:52] <pibarnas> ferronica like that one?
[08:52] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Anyway, enjoy amarok.
[08:52] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: that sounds like my laptop
[08:52] <ferronica> pibarnas: which One
[08:52] <pibarnas> ferronica I use gilouche theme with clear-alternative in metacity.
[08:53] <morgWork> tada- if anyone wants to leave feedback, I'd be greatful: http://morgajel.net/2007/03/24/112/
[08:53] <pibarnas> ferronica I'll send u a screenshot in 1 min, ok?
[08:54] <lkthomas> MatthewV, hmm
[08:54] <bicycledaave> The wireless card is recognized, but I don't have the ath0 device, could it be something wrong with the config files after upgrading?
[08:54] <lkthomas> MatthewV, corel draw file can't open ?
[08:55] <ferronica> pibarnas: Okay
[08:55] <unimatrix9> Athensman : your card seems to have some troubles to setu...
[08:56] <|GaiJin|> How can I make my LCD-monitor go higher than 1024x768... I have tried the Fix, but didn't seem to work... Might it be becaue I had to comment the BusID line in the driver section of xorg.conf??
[08:56] <Carsten-> guys im using 6.10 386 version, when i attempt to install my nvidia drivers, they install ok but as soon as i activate them X will not start again, any reason for this anyone knows of?
[08:56] <arrenlex> !fixres | |GaiJin|
[08:56] <MatthewV> lkthomas, in inkscape?
[08:56] <MonaLeilani> sup
[08:56] <ubotu> |GaiJin|: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:56] <Athensman> i dont understand
[08:56] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, been through that...
[08:56] <Athensman> is there any where i can go to ask about tv tuner  cards???
[08:56] <arrenlex> Carsten-: What error message?
[08:56] <lkthomas> MatthewV, gimp and inkscape too
[08:56] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: And what happened?
[08:56] <MonaLeilani> I have Ubuntu and Windows on the same hard drive, how do I baleted Windows without messing up Ubuntu?
[08:56] <unimatrix9> Athensman : i am looking around to find an answer...
[08:56] <|GaiJin|> 1024....
[08:57] <|GaiJin|> still in 1024
[08:57] <SurfnKid> MonaLeilani: baleted? or deleted
[08:57] <unimatrix9> Athensman : open terminal
[08:57] <Athensman> ok
[08:57] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please.
[08:57] <MatthewV> lkthomas, inkscape has some things about that at http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#What_formats_can_Inkscape_import.2Fexport.3F
[08:57] <MonaLeilani> baleted is the awesome way to say deleted
[08:57] <arrenlex> Go homestar.
[08:57] <bicycledaave> what's that feisty support channel?
[08:57] <unimatrix9> Athensman : type dmesg | grep bttv
[08:57] <arrenlex> bicycledaave: #ubuntu+1
[08:57] <bicycledaave> arrenlex:thanks
[08:58] <unimatrix9> Athensman : does it list?
[08:58] <Carsten-> there was like 20 of them I didnt write them down, but it doesnt seem to be detecting my video card when i look in device manager its never there
[08:58] <MonaLeilani> I <3 Ubuntu and windows is taking up precious hd space
[08:58] <mhemu> i installed gnome network manager to get my wireless going and it somehow got removed from my taskbar, basically rendering it useless. Any ideas how to get it back up? removing it and installing it again didn't do the trick
[08:58] <Athensman> bt8xx card found
[08:58] <unimatrix9> Athensman : so its detected
[08:58] <arrenlex> Carsten-: Change to nvidia, then try to start X. When it fails, log in from the command line and copy your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to your home directory. Change back, start X, and pastebin it.
[08:58] <Athensman> so nw what
[08:59] <pibarnas> ferronica http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=432162929&size=o
[08:59] <MonaLeilani> though that had a legit authentication code.. Maybe should log back on and retrieve it before I balete it
[08:59] <shnastybiznastic> hey arrenlex, I gots another question...
[08:59] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Mmm?
[08:59] <unimatrix9> Athensman : well i dont have the time to go into it, but i hope you can read some german : http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/BT878
[08:59] <pibarnas> ferronica got it?
[09:00] <epi> Things like Flash player aren't 64-bit yet, so I suggest that you install Mozilla's 32-bit binary Firefox from their website. That has solved about every problem with 64-bit-ness I have seen. Plus, 64-bit supports more memory and is generally faster at doing things like encoding and compiling. I'll not turn away a roughly 10% speed increase.
[09:00] <Athensman> vvery funny
[09:00] <variant> #ubuntu should have a web interface
[09:00] <epi> "and so god smiled upon epi"
[09:00] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11818/
[09:00] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: how can I get middleclicking the maximize button to do a vertical maximize?  do I need to go to kde or fluxbox?  can gnome just not do it?
[09:00] <MatthewV> variant, there's always CGI:IRC
[09:00] <Athensman> so u cant help me no more
[09:00] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic flux rockz! :)
[09:00] <unimatrix9> Athensman : you could also try to install xawtv...
[09:01] <variant> MatthewV: thats what I was refering to, ubuntu should have a cgi:irc interface
[09:01] <Athensman> hwo do i do that
[09:01] <arrenlex> epi: There's no 10% increase. The benefit of 64-bit is that it increases the amount of RAM you can address. For a desktop application, this is not important. It comes out in encoding, rendering, compiling and these things. But you won't notice anything except compatibility problems on a desktop.
[09:01] <unimatrix9> by the way did you configure it in tvtime?
[09:01] <mhemu> can anyone give me a hand with gnome network manager???
[09:01] <variant> MatthewV: would take a lot of bandwidth though, and this channel is busy enough as it is
[09:01] <Athensman> !xawtv
[09:01] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 656 kB
[09:01] <os1ris> anyone know where ndiswrapper's home dir is
[09:01] <os1ris> not in /etc
[09:01] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Heck if I know, I don't run gnome. I know where to configure that in KDE...
[09:01] <epi> Im determined to avoid another blanket install.
[09:02] <Athensman> and where do i find it
[09:02] <unimatrix9> the tvtime menu when it starts...
[09:02] <Athensman> it will not start
[09:02] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: And pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:02] <os1ris> anyone know where ndiswrapper's home dir is
[09:02] <Athensman> that is what i am telling you
[09:02] <epi> At least for a week. Ive spent 8 hours, and have yet to sleep, BECAUSE, ubuntu deemed sata Raid support to be un-worthy of including on the live CD.
[09:02] <Athensman> it will not load
[09:02] <Athensman> i click ity
[09:02] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: I'm quickly remembering why I didn't enjoy that dropline installation I had a while ago :/
[09:02] <epi> On the plus side, Ive learned a hell of a lot...on the other hand...im tired.
[09:02] <Athensman> and it goes to black real quick and then nothing
[09:03] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Pardon? Dropline?
[09:03] <MatthewV> os1ris, in linux apps do not have a home dir... config is often stored in /etc, per user config in ~/ files in /usr etc
[09:03] <mhemu> i installed gnome network manager to get my wireless going and it somehow got removed from my taskbar, basically rendering it useless. Any ideas how to get it back up? removing it and installing it again didn't do the trick
[09:03] <MatthewV> mhemu, the command to get it back in the taskbar is nmapplet
[09:03] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: dropline is a gnome package for slackware, because the default gnome on slackware is a bit lacking (and recently, not there)
[09:03] <os1ris> well i installed ndiswrapper looking for where to put the files for diever
[09:03] <pibarnas> epi well you can take some rest.
[09:03] <os1ris> hehe
[09:04] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Slackware doesn't sound fun.
[09:04] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11819/
[09:04] <MonaLeilani> if I just delete the windows partition, will ubuntu be fine
[09:04] <mhemu> MatthewV, that will work in the add custom applet to the taskbar?
[09:04] <MonaLeilani> and what do i need to do to make ubuntu take up that extra space
[09:04] <epi> I think ill keep at it.
[09:04] <SplashTK> Hey, was wondering if someone could give me a quick hand with GParted
[09:04] <MatthewV> mhemu, if you hit Alt-F2, then type in 'nmapplet' and hit enter that should do it
[09:04] <unimatrix9> apt-get install xawtv
[09:04] <MatthewV> SplashTK, no probs, what is the problem?
[09:04] <Athensman> what
[09:04] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: wtf is 1200x1024. Do you mean 1280x1024?
[09:05] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic Slack's very good... but you must have time to have a deep learning...
[09:05] <|GaiJin|> DOH
[09:05] <mhemu> MatthewV, no dice, says it's not found
[09:05] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Okay well I am installing off the livecd at the moment and upto the gparted thing cause I wanna make my own size right, but not sure how
[09:05] <os1ris> i cant find the root dir for ndiswrapper where it installed anyone know .. so i can thow my drivers in it
[09:06] <SplashTK> MatthewV, I clicked resize partition, and not sure if I should be looking at the new size or free space following section
[09:06] <variant> epi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit#Pros_and_cons read
[09:06] <mhemu> MatthewV, is nmapplet found in some place special?
[09:06] <pibarnas> epi what's the matter after all, pal?
[09:06] <MatthewV> SplashTK, so at the moment you just have all hdd taken by windows?
[09:06] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, Can you see anything else wrong while you look at it... Example... the Bus line in the driver section?
[09:06] <Athensman> god why didnt i stay with windows
[09:06] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: it's very fun, but also unforgiving if you arent prepared.  Kind of like base diving
[09:06] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: If it launched, nothing else is wrong.
[09:06] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Yeah I have windows installed, and want to dual boot, and I want to give linux 15 GB
[09:06] <|GaiJin|> trying then
[09:06] <os1ris> i cant find the root dir for ndiswrapper where it installed anyone know .. so i can thow my drivers in it
[09:07] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Er, base diving?
[09:07] <pibarnas> Athensman Cause you're a clever guy...
[09:07] <MonaLeilani> I want to delete windows
[09:07] <MonaLeilani> yet noone is helping me :D
[09:07] <pibarnas> windows?? what's it?
[09:07] <shnastybiznastic> arrenlex: base jumping
[09:07] <arrenlex> shnastybiznastic: Er, base jumping?
[09:07] <MonaLeilani> some irritating thing taking up space on my hd
[09:07] <os1ris> yea delete i installed kubuntu never been happier
[09:07] <unimatrix9> how would i install several .deb files at once?
[09:07] <MatthewV> SplashTK, ok, go to where you resize the windows partition, then set free space following to 15GB (15000MB)
[09:07] <pibarnas> MonaLeilani what's the matter?
[09:07] <unimatrix9> or create an meta package?
[09:07] <MonaLeilani> I want to get rid of windows
[09:08] <MonaLeilani> I have a dual boot system, ubuntu and windows
[09:08] <Athensman> well linux sucks
[09:08] <epi> Eh? Sorry if it came across as rude, I was close to total melt down twice already tonight, finding the live CD didnt come with raid1 support was a killer. Took me ages to sort it out, im not arguing about the advantages of 64bit etc, im new enough and dont know enough to refute you.  :) In the future, remember this important fact: 8 != 0
[09:09] <MonaLeilani> just not sure how to add that empty space
[09:09] <MatthewV> SplashTK, so the graphical bar thing now shows 15GB of unallocated space after the windows partition?
[09:09] <bonez56> hi, can someone please take a look at this problem i am having installing xgl+compiz? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11820/
[09:09] <unimatrix9> Athensman, dont give up so soon...
[09:09] <arrenlex> Athensman: Don't troll. If you don't like it, don't use it.
[09:09] <os1ris> how can u search whole system to specified dire?
[09:09] <os1ris> !find
[09:09] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, I kinda knew... but I missed it going through the logs myself...
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Yep
[09:09] <os1ris> !search
[09:09] <Athensman> unimatrix9,  why not
[09:09] <MonaLeilani> i'm new to linux, it might freak out that the disk size is bigger than it was and I didn't change something in the settings to account for it?
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <Athensman> nothing is working for me
[09:10] <mhemu> MatthewV, it is installed and running correctly, the app just doesn't show up in the taskbar, which makes me unable to connect to the various wireless AP's that I need to
[09:10] <lightstar> ubotu: nvraid
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: Line 477: (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1200x1024"; removing.
[09:10] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: :)
[09:10] <MatthewV> mhemu, yep i get you... just taking a look now
[09:10] <anirudha> Hi I just installed kubuntu using the sudo command in terminal. Does anyone know if and how I can uninstall the kubuntu session? It is very slow on my computer and I wish to keep ubuntu only.
[09:10] <epl> MonaLeilani: no why?
[09:10] <MatthewV> mhemu, try 'nm-applet' sorry
[09:10] <MatthewV> note dash
[09:10] <lightstar> hi, anyone got their RAID setup working without any hitch using dmraid on edgy?
[09:10] <arrenlex> |GaiJin|: Whenever you run into X problems, just grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log. If that doesn't help, grep WW.
[09:10] <os1ris> anyone remember the cli command.. to search whole system for " specified" dir
[09:10] <bonez56> hi, can someone please take a look at this problem i am having installing xgl+compiz? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11820/
[09:11] <pibarnas> ferronica, like it?
[09:11] <mhemu> MatthewV, if it helps, the battery monitor is gone now too, along with the standard seperator between the right side items like the shutdown button and time
[09:11] <epl> MonaLeilani: your not changing the disk  size (how could you?)
[09:11] <|GaiJin|> arrenlex, thanks for the tip
[09:11] <MatthewV> mhemu, ah....
[09:11] <Athensman> unimatrix9,  well????
[09:11] <MonaLeilani> that's what I'm asking, will adding that space to ubuntu's partition cause it to freak out?
[09:11] <arrenlex> anirudha: What command did you use to install?
[09:11] <MatthewV> try right-clicking on the panel, and adding a notification area
[09:11] <MonaLeilani> or should I just leave it its own partition but make it reiser
[09:11] <epl> MonaLeilani: you are just removing data from a partition that linux doesnt really know anything about
[09:11] <epl> MonaLeilani: since it is your windows partition
[09:11] <epl> MonaLeilani: oh
[09:12] <bonez56> hi, can someone please take a look at this problem i am having installing xgl+compiz? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11820/
[09:12] <Athensman> where can u get help
[09:12] <pdude> anyone know of a a good plug-in for firefox that runs wav and common video files?
[09:12] <bonez56> can anyone help me with my xgl problem??
[09:12] <epl> MonaLeilani: well if you intend to resize your linux partition to include the space from your old windows partition you should be careful and probably backup your important data before you do it
[09:12] <Athensman> no one can help you
[09:12] <shnastybiznastic> that was weird
[09:12] <SilentDis> bonez56: checking out the pastebin now.  give me a moment, got a lot running here :)
[09:12] <arrenlex> bonez56: You added third-party repositories, which messed up your system.
[09:12] <MonaLeilani> okay
[09:12] <mhemu> MatthewV, that did it, thanks!! did i inadvertantly do something that I can avoid in the future??
[09:13] <arrenlex> bonez56: Don't add third-party repositories.
[09:13] <bonez56> arrenlex, i followed the guide at ubuntuguide.org
[09:13] <arrenlex> bonez56: You installed compiz from two different sources which packaged it differently.
[09:13] <arrenlex> bonez56: Link?
[09:13] <bonez56> arrenlex, 2 secs
[09:13] <anirudha> arrenlex, hi, I used  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <MatthewV> mhemu, you probably removed the notification area applet, which is what displays the icons from nm-applet, gaim etc
[09:13] <epl> MonaLeilani: but other than that it shouldnt be a problem, you dont need to specify the size of the partition for linux to boot or anything
[09:13] <arrenlex> anirudha: Perfect. sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <unimatrix9> Athensman, did you install xawtv ?
[09:13] <bonez56> arrenlex, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28NVIDIA.29
[09:13] <MonaLeilani> does ubuntu have a gui disk management tool or something like that or does it need to be command line
[09:13] <anirudha> arrenlex, oh! thanks!
[09:13] <shnastybiznastic> I accidentally ctrl-alt-F1ed over to tty1 and when I tried to go back to F7 the whole thing froze
[09:14] <epl> MonaLeilani: just make sure that /etc/fstab is correct
[09:14] <mhemu> MatthewV, gotcha. thanks so much, about to get on a plane and thought i screwed myself! have a good night!
[09:14] <unimatrix9> sudo apt-get install xawtv
[09:14] <Athensman> unimatrix9,  well????
[09:14] <unimatrix9> ?
[09:14] <Athensman> dude
[09:14] <MatthewV> mhemu, not a problem :)
[09:14] <Athensman> i cannot find it
[09:14] <epl> MonaLeilani: im not that used to gui tools but i think there is something called gparted
[09:14] <epi> Damn it :|
[09:14] <SplashTK> MatthewV, said 0 of 1 operations completed, something about checking filessytem, it's ntfs
[09:14] <MonaLeilani> okay, I'll check it out
[09:14] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic thanks to nvidia driver, I suppose...
[09:14] <arrenlex> bonez56: wtf... why would you install XGL on nvidia?!
[09:14] <unimatrix9> hmm, you are really new to this eh?
[09:14] <Athensman> no shit
[09:14] <osofast> hey
[09:14] <bonez56> arrenlex, i dunno... is beryl better?
[09:15] <os1ris> can anyone pleaseee.. help me with nidswrapper.. says to copy files over to directory... its not /etc/ndiswrapper ... any help pleasee :(
[09:15] <MatthewV> SplashTK, yeh, so you pressed apply?
[09:15] <arrenlex> bonez56: That's a different thing.
[09:15] <MonaLeilani> I really <3 ubuntu
[09:15] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  go to system / synaptic
[09:15] <bonez56> arrenlex, i just want some eye candy :)
[09:15] <shnastybiznastic> pibarnas: I have a 9800 pro? xD
[09:15] <osofast> im having a problem turning off my touchpad when im typing
[09:15] <MonaLeilani> I installed it last night, everything works like a charm
[09:15] <os1ris> i love kubuntu heh
[09:15] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  package manager..
[09:15] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic what's it?
[09:15] <SplashTK> MatthewV, yeah it didn't do it had an error, said something about filesystem
[09:15] <os1ris> some please help me im getting fustrated
[09:15] <arrenlex> bonez56: xgl and aiglx are the compositing servers which allow compiz and beryl to run. You can use compiz+xgl, compiz+aiglx, beryl+xgl, or beryl+aiglx. Whatever your heart desires.
[09:15] <MonaLeilani> my external usb hd always made my windows system hang and it always took about 50 seconds before I could read its contents
[09:15] <MonaLeilani> now, instant access to files, no hang
[09:15] <MatthewV> SplashTK, oh.. what was the error?
[09:15] <bonez56> arrenlex, ok thanks
[09:15] <arrenlex> bonez56: aiglx is better because it allows apps to still be 3D accelerated themselves. xgl doesn't.
[09:16] <ferronica> pibarnas: How to install system sound????
[09:16] <osofast> how do i turn off my touchpad when im typing?
[09:16] <arrenlex> bonez56: You really should be using aiglx with nvidia. xgl is for ati, which supports nothing else.
[09:16] <shnastybiznastic> pibarnas: old ATI card
[09:16] <os1ris> can anyone pleaseee.. help me with nidswrapper.. says to copy files over to directory... its not /etc/ndiswrapper ... any help pleasee :(
[09:16] <SplashTK> MatthewV, sorry closed it but it said something about checking file system on /hda/ or something
[09:16] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  then settings and package sources...
[09:16] <bonez56> arrenlex, ok i'll read up a bit more on what they all do.. cheres
[09:16] <arrenlex> bonez56: I take it you have an nvidia card?
[09:16] <ferronica> pibarnas: How to install system sound???? ?
[09:16] <MatthewV> SplashTK, that isnt an error... thats just telling you what its doing..
[09:16] <pibarnas> shnastybiznastic oh... it only happens to me with beryl+nvidia... don't know why...
[09:16] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  then select them all and reload the manager
[09:16] <anirudha> any of you use other linux flavors ?
[09:16] <Athensman> i dont see package sources
[09:16] <bonez56> arrenlex, yes correct
[09:16] <os1ris> i do
[09:16] <kissake> I'm having trouble booting the Ubuntu install/live CD for my platform (x86-64).  I don't get past the progress bar(s) using 7.04, 6.10, or 6.06.  Any help appreciated (obviously :) )
[09:17] <epl> MonaLeilani: I would think twice about removing windows though... I have been using Linux almost exclusively for 11 years but I still need windows from time to time (or word, excel, powerpoint actually)
[09:17] <asdfjlk> osofast - it should turn off automaticlly. I'm not sure how to figure it.
[09:17] <arrenlex> bonez56: You shouldn't need to do anything more than apt-get install compiz, then. As long as you have drivers.
[09:17] <anirudha> Does everyone prefer ubuntu over all other linux flavors?
[09:17] <MatthewV> SplashTK, oh and i should give you a disclaimer first - it aint my prob if you wreck something and make sure you've backed up first ;)
[09:17] <SplashTK> MatthewV, oh, so when that comes up go to the next page
[09:17] <bonez56> arrenlex, what will that give me?
[09:17] <MonaLeilani> pffft. openoffice ;P
[09:17] <pibarnas> ferronica I think it may be already installed? Maybe making sound volume louder?
[09:17] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Yep ;)
[09:17] <ferronica> pibarnas: How to install system sound????
[09:17] <unimatrix9> !repositories
[09:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:17] <arrenlex> bonez56: Compiz on aiglx.
[09:17] <Athensman> select them all??
[09:17] <unimatrix9> yes all
[09:17] <Athensman> what are you talking about
[09:17] <MonaLeilani> I didn't even have MS office on windows, i just used openoffice
[09:17] <bonez56> arrenlex, i can't get of this error that keeps coming up telling me to do apt-get install -f
[09:17] <vladko> or using crossover office - and you should be fine
[09:17] <unimatrix9> and reload
[09:17] <epl> MonaLeilani: yeah, but not all powerpoint presentations or excel documents works flawless in openoffice..
[09:18] <ferronica> pibarnas: I have downloded
[09:18] <unimatrix9> after that search for xawtv
[09:18] <MatthewV> SplashTK, no it should say 0 of 1 operations complete - checking filesystem ... wait until it says all operations complete, that means that its done
[09:18] <MonaLeilani> This is just my laptop, I do have a pc with windows on it
[09:18] <pibarnas> ferronica what?
[09:18] <unimatrix9> and install it..
[09:18] <ferronica> pibarnas: 53952-just-sounds.tar.bz2
[09:18] <vladko> some macros dont work in OO
[09:18] <arrenlex> bonez56: Could you please show me the output of: grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^$
[09:18] <epl> MonaLeilani: well then.. :)
[09:18] <Carsten-> i just lost my x config for the 10th time today can someonme please tell me how to get my old good config back with a re-install
[09:18] <asdfjlk> osofast - there is also usualy a combination of "fn" + "F?" that turns it off until you press it again
[09:18] <SplashTK> k
[09:18] <ferronica> pibarnas: from here ---->>>http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Just+Sounds+%3A%29?content=53952
[09:18] <pibarnas> ferronica I really don't know what it is.
[09:18] <MonaLeilani> maybe i'll drastically shrink the windows partition and uninstall a ton of stuff and add the rest to my ubuntu
[09:18] <pibarnas> ferronica I'll see it, wait a min.
[09:18] <MonaLeilani> and keep stinky windows
[09:19] <ferronica> pibarnas: okay
[09:19] <bonez56> arrenlex, the only non-standard repo i have is deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu edgy dev
[09:19] <unimatrix9> windows is cool ( if you wanto look outside )
[09:19] <arrenlex> bonez56: Yep, and that screwed you up.
[09:19] <bonez56> arrenlex, just removing it now :)
[09:19] <bonez56> arrenlex, i also fixed the error
[09:19] <MonaLeilani> hmm, maybe i'll just use partition magic to do it
[09:19] <Athensman> ok now what
[09:19] <arrenlex> bonez56: Well it's too late, you've installed the package =P Remove compiz-extra-gnome
[09:20] <MonaLeilani> that shouldn't cause any problems
[09:20] <Carsten-> please can someone help
[09:20] <unimatrix9> Mona if you have it ( partition magic ) why not use it?
[09:20] <kissake> Have any of you seen errors/problems/failures with booting the Ubuntu Live CD in graphical safe mode?
[09:20] <pibarnas> ferronica Now u got me! Why don't you put an scrp on the page and wait for its author explain to u?
[09:20] <epl> MonaLeilani: prabably the safest bet
[09:20] <Athensman> unimatrix9,  now what
[09:20] <MonaLeilani> okay, will do then
[09:20] <bonez56> arrenlex, ok it's removed.. compiz says it's already installed.,. what else should I do for some bling eye candy?
[09:20] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  install xawtv?
[09:20] <Athensman> yes
[09:21] <MonaLeilani> i need to just but myself one of those 120gb laptop drives.. this one has only 40
[09:21] <unimatrix9> ok, fire it up see what happens
[09:21] <MonaLeilani> *buy
[09:21] <rredd4> Carsten-  we cannot read your mind... please ask your question
[09:21] <pibarnas> ferronica You can do it by hand, but its hard working...
[09:21] <osofast> asdfjlk: my laptop doesnt have that function unforntualtly
[09:21] <unimatrix9> Mona , for that money ( buy partition magic ) you could buy an new hardrive
[09:22] <Peter_Johnsson> anyone got any updates on the whole JMicron bug with the beta, im craving ubuntu and i can't even install off the live cd
[09:22] <arrenlex> bonez56: Paste the output of "glxinfo | grep render" and "dpkg -l xserver-xgl | grep ^ii | wc -l" please
[09:22] <unimatrix9> and install ubuntu on that ( dual boot )
[09:22] <pibarnas> ferronica I don't know how to change all of them in a once.
[09:22] <MonaLeilani> who said I bought partition magic ;P
[09:22] <unimatrix9> hehe
[09:22] <mattie8> ok, so I am root (but sudo su) - how do I revert to being a normal user?
[09:22] <osofast> asdfjlk: ill post a link of the steps i tried before
[09:22] <mattie8> s/but/by
[09:22] <arrenlex> mattie8: "exit" command
[09:22] <Carsten-> I already did once, i have lost my Xwindows setup trying to re-config it so I can use 1440x900 but everytime i try a new setting other than the standard it crashes
[09:22] <MatthewV> mattie8, su youruser
[09:22] <ferronica> pibarnas: okay
[09:22] <epl> MonaLeilani: well, if you don't own it perhaps you should try it with free tools first? :)
[09:22] <kissake> Peter_Johnsson: I have a problem with the live cd... what are the symptoms of yours? (if I know that my problem is that one, I'm happier to wait :) )
[09:22] <asdfjlk> osofast - I won't be much help. I am new to linux, but have been a long time pwoer user.
[09:23] <arrenlex> Carsten-: When it crashes, copy the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere safe and then start X and pastebin it.
[09:23] <Athensman> lol well no picture
[09:23] <MonaLeilani> okay. well, thanks guys for your help.. I guess I'll go do the dirty work now
[09:23] <pibarnas> ferronica did u like the theme?
[09:23] <Carsten-> but will; that makle it run again?
[09:23] <ferronica> pibarnas: yes
[09:23] <osofast> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271052
[09:23] <unimatrix9> Athensman,  at least we tried...
[09:23] <osofast> oh ok
[09:23] <epl> MonaLeilani: good luck
[09:23] <ferronica> pibarnas: what is GDM theme
[09:23] <Peter_Johnsson> mine is  a pretty widespread bug its reported on the main feisty beta page has a known bug. Basically  when i install, it gets frozen on the progress booting bar and can't mount hte filesystem and drops you back into a busy box terminal and spews something about tty and no job control
[09:23] <bonez56> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11824/
[09:23] <MonaLeilani> thanks
[09:23] <Athensman> going back to windows
[09:23] <arrenlex> Carsten-: It will let me try to figure out what the problem is so I can give you advice.
[09:23] <Athensman> leter
[09:23] <Athensman> later
[09:24] <kissake> Peter_Johnson: Oh :( ... Mine happens before that.   You really should remove it.
[09:24] <arrenlex> !langauge | Athensman
[09:24] <ubotu> Athensman: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:24] <unimatrix9> sorry for you mate
[09:24] <osofast> guess ill just have to get used to typing with my figers lifted about the keyboard
[09:24] <bonez56> arrenlex, done. just removed it
[09:24] <arrenlex> bonez56: You're running plain x, right?
[09:24] <Carsten-> ok
[09:24] <unimatrix9> Athensman,   i think you would get in running , but you need to have an friend that knows a lot of linux
[09:24] <bonez56> arrenlex, as far as i know, yes
[09:24] <pibarnas> ferronica human list feisty, something like that...
[09:25] <Athensman> like i said linux sucks
[09:25] <Athensman> but thanks anyways
[09:25] <unimatrix9> Athensman,   yes for you it does...
[09:25] <ferronica> pibarnas: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Avio-GDM?content=37395
[09:25] <Ayabara2> is there an equalizer plugin for rhytmbox? what other players besides amarok have equalizers?
[09:25] <kissake> ls
[09:25] <ferronica> pibarnas: GDM theme can i use it?
[09:25] <kissake> (gotta get focus follows mouse ..sorry for the spurious linux commands in channel)
[09:26] <pibarnas> ferronica yep. download it.
[09:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: I am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[09:26] <Peter_Johnsson> so does anyone know of any workarounds for the jmicron bug https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84964 i dont really want to wait like a week for a fix to be included in a daily build and to redownload the iso
[09:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: downloded
[09:26] <unimatrix9> Athensman : you could try to run knoppix on the same machine ( live cd ) and see if that gives the same problem or not
[09:26] <pibarnas> ferronica doesn't matter.
[09:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: now what to do
[09:26] <Athensman> scrw it
[09:26] <arrenlex> bonez56: Incidentally, what nvidia driver are you using? From the repositories or from the official site?
[09:26] <unimatrix9> Athensman,    ok , fair enough...
[09:26] <ferronica> pibarnas: saved on desktop
[09:27] <unimatrix9> Athensman,    i wish you all the best any way!
[09:27] <SplashTK> MatthewV,  "an error occured while applying the operations" Resize /dev/hda1 from 152.66 GiB to 138.22 GiB "
[09:27] <bonez56> arrenlex, from the repos
[09:27] <pibarnas> ferronica system>administration>log in session (something like that(.
[09:27] <Athensman> goodbye to linux forever
[09:27] <arrenlex> Athensman: Just leave already, please.
[09:27] <pibarnas> Athensman goodbye Athensman forever!
[09:27] <MatthewV> SplashTK, any other details
[09:27] <bonez56> arrenlex, however each time i boot up, a restricted-manager pops up and tells me that my nvidia graphics driver is not supported by ubuntu or something?
[09:27] <arrenlex> bonez56: The official one is newer. The repo one might not support\might not have good support for aiglx.
[09:27] <unimatrix9> Athensman,    still wanto read the how to page ? http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/BT878 ( german ) but with englisch commands..
[09:28] <MatthewV> SplashTK, expanding the details will often give you the exact error
[09:28] <ferronica> pibarnas: Login window oreferences
[09:28] <SplashTK> MatthewV, The NTFS Journal is Unclean
[09:28] <unimatrix9> hmm, history...
[09:28] <arrenlex> bonez56: Try upgrading to the official driver... I've heard envy is good for this.
[09:28] <arrenlex> !envy | bonez56
[09:28] <ubotu> bonez56: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[09:28] <pibarnas> ferronica I think it it that one...
[09:28] <unimatrix9> wonder what such a person would do if windows failed? also delete it from his drive?
[09:28] <bonez56> arrenlex, awesome thanks
[09:28] <unimatrix9> give up on windows? :P
[09:28] <pibarnas> ferronica clicking on it, what happens?
[09:29] <SplashTK> MatthewV, "Please shutdown windows poperly before using this software"
[09:29] <SplashTK> MatthewV, So I should boot back into windows the shutdown again?
[09:29] <variant> unimatrix9: nwhat do you mean?
[09:29] <ferronica> pibarnas: i drgged and dropped in it
[09:29] <MatthewV> SplashTK, did you shut down windows properly?
[09:29] <ferronica> pibarnas: i dragged and dropped in it
[09:29] <Carsten-> can anyone tell me how to get back to my X windows defaults from just after i installed the system?
[09:29] <MatthewV> you didnt hibernate or anything like that?
[09:29] <pibarnas> ferronica and it works?
[09:29] <ferronica> pibarnas: is it okay
[09:29] <pibarnas> ferronica okay!
[09:29] <ferronica> pibarnas: Yes
[09:29] <kissake> Windows doesn't 'fail'.  It is just that it's 'normal operation' is occasionally worse than a 'failure' in Linux.  Expectation management is key.
[09:29] <SplashTK> MatthewV, Well I assumed so, but obviously not
[09:29] <pibarnas> ferronica congratulations.
[09:29] <unimatrix9> variant , was not for you ...
[09:30] <asdfjlk> !help
[09:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:30] <ferronica> pibarnas: but i need a good theme
[09:30] <ferronica> pibarnas: not icon
[09:30] <Carsten-> please... anyone
[09:30] <arrenlex> bonez56: I have to go, so if you run into trouble again, fyi the gurus for this sort of thing live in #ubuntu-effects.
[09:30] <pibarnas> ferronica I used for some time synthesis, it's a very good one and I think it matches your icon theme...
[09:31] <pibarnas> ferronica I'll give u a screenshot, do u want it?
[09:31] <bonez56> arrenlex, cool thanks for the help. much appreicated
[09:31] <Carsten-> what do i need to do to get a reply in here?
[09:31] <ferronica> pibarnas: Okay sent
[09:31] <arrenlex> bonez56: No problem :) enjoy ubuntu.
[09:31] <ferronica> pibarnas: Okay send
[09:31] <arrenlex> Carsten-: I thought I replied to you several times by now?
[09:31] <variant> there should be some sort of notification that new hardware has been configured when you install it. At the moment the only way I knew that my usb-serial converter was supported was to run dmesg | tail in a terminal. plugging it in caused no visual feedback in gnome..
[09:31] <pibarnas> ferronica http://www.flickr.com/photos/58883315@N00/426105434/
[09:32] <osofast> any other ideas for how to stop the touchpad from wokring when im typing?
[09:32] <Carsten-> ok let me put it another way I asked a question to simply restore my old X config I dont know how many times ive asked it seems to have gone ignored every time
[09:32] <arrenlex> kissake: I am going to make an operating system where the kernel consists of an infinite loop of printing "Hello world!". Since it will always do what it's intended to do, I will market it as a system that never fails. I shall make millions. :)
[09:32] <unimatrix9> Carsten : there are two files : one is xorg.conf.old and one is xorg.conf
[09:33] <MindFury> Anyone know how much space the new Alpha of Fiesty Fawn takes up whne you install it?  I was going to try to install it to a 1gb usb stick, is this enough?
[09:33] <orkim> Carsten-: did you check in /etc/X11/ for a file like xorg.conf.back or something?
[09:33] <arrenlex> Carsten-: What's the output of "file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak"?
[09:33] <pibarnas> ferronica do you like this one?
[09:33] <ferronica> pibarnas: Good
[09:33] <Carsten-> yes, nothing there.
[09:33] <arrenlex> Carsten-: Actually, paste the output of this: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[09:33] <variant> MindFury: not really, try running the live image from usb
[09:33] <orkim> Carsten-: then it seens you dont have a backup
[09:33] <orkim> seems
[09:34] <kissake> orkim, would there be a default / backup on the Live CD somewhere?
[09:34] <arrenlex> Carsten-: Paste the output of this: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[09:34] <orkim> kissake: there is the default xorg.conf in the xorg package
[09:34] <ferronica> pibarnas: Nice
[09:35] <orkim> kissake: or you could probably do a debconf xorg or something as well..
[09:35] <MindFury> variant: If i do the live off the usb stick would there be a way to try out beryl (seeing as it doesnt come installed i will have to) so i can see if it works
[09:35] <root> hello
[09:35] <root> i am useing Mepis
[09:35] <unimatrix9> Carsten boot into live cd , copy xorg.conf from the live ram, to usb memory stick, and write it to your hard drive ? might be an other option...?
[09:35] <MindFury> cause Ultimate Unbunt 1.3 gave me hell the other day
[09:35] <root> but mepis is the same like ubuntu
[09:35] <unimatrix9> root , are you root?
[09:35] <root> i have got problem
[09:35] <root> yes :P
[09:35] <unimatrix9> not wise root?
[09:35] <MatthewV> MindFury, I have done that on a pc with an intel graphics card - oss accelerated drivers included
[09:35] <osofast> hey i have an unrelated question, when 7.04 comes out will my computer know how to automatically upgrade?
[09:35] <root> ues
[09:35] <root> yes
[09:35] <arrenlex> osofast: No.
[09:35] <MindFury> MatthewV: done what?
[09:36] <MatthewV> MindFury, run beryl off a usb stick booting the live cd image
[09:36] <dougie> where are xmms's skins stored? where would i extract new skins?
[09:36] <root> listen, I am root because i cannot login on my user account
[09:36] <osofast> like I will have to download the cd again?
[09:36] <arrenlex> osofast: You'd have to run upgrade-manager, like you do to upgrade dapper->edgy:
[09:36] <arrenlex> !upgrade| osofast
[09:36] <unimatrix9> dougie : there are in a hidden file in your home dir
[09:36] <ubotu> osofast: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:36] <root> because when i am writing my password
[09:36] <MindFury> Cool going to try that right now got my laptop loaded up, just man nothing seems to like Nvidia haha
[09:36] <epl> Carsten-: you can use, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to generate a new xorg.conf
[09:36] <orkim> osofast: you have to change your repos in /etc/apt/sources.list and "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:36] <root> i cannot login
[09:36] <osofast> ok
[09:36] <root> into user account
[09:37] <unimatrix9> dougie : go to home dir , press ctrl+h shows files
[09:37] <MatthewV> MindFury, yeh thats where you'll hit issues, you'll need to install the proprietary drivers for nvidia onto the stick
[09:37] <root> do you know what to do ??
[09:37] <osofast> sounds good,
[09:37] <MatthewV> MindFury, and then there's the problem that iirc ubuntu live cd config overwrites xorg.conf every time you boot
[09:37] <dougie> unimatrix9: ok?
[09:37] <unimatrix9> dougie : find .xmms
[09:37] <unimatrix9> in there..
[09:37] <pibarnas> ferronica in fact I just switch back to it! :)
[09:38] <dougie> umm its not showing those files
[09:38] <unimatrix9> and file "skins"
[09:38] <dougie> nevermind
[09:38] <unimatrix9> or use beep-mediaplayer
[09:38] <MatthewV> MindFury, if you want to try, these are the instructions i used to get ubuntu on the stick (4 GB in my case) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[09:38] <dougie> beep-mediaplayer?
[09:38] <unimatrix9> then you can drag and drop them into it...to show the skins
[09:38] <unimatrix9> yes beep-mediaplayer
[09:39] <kissake> IRC is addictive.  Anyone have advice on leaning out of the wagon, rather than falling off of it entirely? :)
[09:39] <unimatrix9> you need classic winamp skins...they look cool..
[09:39] <arrenlex> kissake: If girls talk to you for some reason, it's okay to talk to them back.
[09:39] <MindFury> MatthewV: Thanks, I just really want to try to get everything set up first and no how to do it befor i commit this to a HDD
[09:39] <MindFury> iam still begining with Linux
[09:40] <unimatrix9> apt-get install beep-media-player
[09:40] <dougie> hmm...the one i downloaded is not working...lol
[09:40] <unimatrix9> sudo..
[09:40] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:40] <dougie> what is beep-media-player?
[09:40] <orkim> kissake: use /quit early and often
[09:40] <unimatrix9> its a fork of xmms
[09:40] <MatthewV> MindFury, yeh... if you have the usb stick permanently on one pc you should be able to install a full system onto it...
[09:40] <Freeza> heh ubuntu gave new life to my 2yr old laptop
[09:41] <dougie> ....much better?
[09:41] <pibarnas> dougie a very good media player, but I think its developmente stopped some time ago... now it's bmpx...
[09:41] <unimatrix9> yes better ( personal view )
[09:41] <MatthewV> MindFury, sry.. oops you'd actually need a bigger stick
[09:41] <dougie> bmpx huh?
[09:41] <pibarnas> dougie yep.
[09:41] <pibarnas> dougie very good to listen radio.
[09:41] <Belboz99> hey all, how do I share a modem connection between two Ubuntu PC's?
[09:41] <Freeza> hey are gdm and kdm login screens or entire themes?
[09:41] <MindFury> MatthewV but while i have the live cd running right now and the usb stick in i can still just try installing beryl
[09:42] <MindFury> and nvidia drivers
[09:42] <pibarnas> Freeza I think there are themes...
[09:42] <variant> epi: linux is a kernel, not an operating system. ubuntu doesn't require you to use the terminal but when you ask in here it is gerealy easyer for someone with experience to simply tell you the commands that will fix your problem instead of trying to direct you through a bunch of menus
[09:42] <MatthewV> MindFury, i suppose there's no reason why you couldnt try
[09:42] <dougie> does beep media player play wma files?
[09:42] <Carsten-> can anyone tell me where the X config file on the live cd is located pls?
[09:42] <unimatrix9> dougie : the skins needs to be an wsz extension ( so classic skin )
[09:42] <pibarnas> variant good answer.
[09:42] <MatthewV> MindFury, but you'll lose all changes when you restart
[09:43] <pibarnas> dougie I think so.
[09:43] <dougie> cause xmms doesn't...
[09:43] <kissake> Well, I submitted my bug report to launchpad, so unless someone else has any ideas on getting Fawn (7.04) booting from the LiveCD, I'll be on my way (/quit early and often! :))
[09:43] <pibarnas> dougie I'm not certain about that.
[09:43] <MindFury> but if i learn how and everything works i can put that little info into memory and use it when i commit dual install on my laptop
[09:43] <variant> dougie: if they don't have a drm infection then yes it does. personally i use amarok, _excellent_ audio player/manager
[09:43] <Freeza> for example http://art4linux.nazwa.pl/pages/download/gnome/dream-avio-gdm.jpg will my whole gui look like that or only the login?
[09:44] <ubuntu_> for some reason my time is fucked
[09:44] <pibarnas> variant the best, I would say...
[09:44] <ubuntu_> how do i synch my time with the ntp servers in ubuntu?
[09:44] <variant> dougie: there is even a plugin available for amarok that allows you to right click a song you'r playing from an internet stream and "download album from bittorrent" although this may not strictly be legal
[09:44] <epl> ubuntu_: ntpdate <server>
[09:44] <unimatrix9> wma got to go, bye all and good luck
[09:44] <variant> ubuntu_: please watch your language in here, it's a fammily chan
[09:45] <MatthewV> MindFury, yes you could... try following the instructions at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[09:45] <ubuntu_> thank you npl, and sorry about the language, i stand corrected
[09:45] <Carsten-> Can someone, anyone please tell me how to restore my x original config fiel from anywhere
[09:45] <Carsten-> please
[09:45] <variant> dougie: in a terminal run "file /path/to/filename.wma" I beleive that will tell you if the audio file has been DRM'd
[09:45] <epl> ubuntu_: also check /etc/default/ntpdate
[09:45] <epl> Carsten-: I already told you
[09:45] <pibarnas> Argh! The sun is coming!! I must go to sleep!!!
[09:45] <variant> dougie: change /path/to/filename.wma to the real path to your file of course
[09:46] <dougie> nah the stuff i'm playing is not drm'd
[09:46] <Carsten-> i am unable to find another copy of it on the cd
[09:46] <pibarnas> Bye, folks!
[09:46] <epl> Carsten-: or actually, I told you how to generate a new one
[09:46] <variant> dougie: ok
[09:46] <pibarnas> :)
[09:46] <misnix> Carsten-, try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:46] <MindFury> MatthewV: Thanks looking now
[09:46] <Carsten-> that command is what brought my x-server down last time when I tried it
[09:46] <epl> Carsten-: there is no backup copy on the cd since the xorg.conf is generated at install time
[09:46] <variant> dougie: really, try amarok. Also, if xmms/beep doesn't play the wma it's probably because you don't have the right lib installed. do you have win32codecs installed?
[09:46] <dougie> the skin i downloaded needs some vumeter plugin
[09:46] <variant> !wma | dougie
[09:46] <ubotu> dougie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:46] <epl> Carsten-: check what files you have in /etc/X11/
[09:47] <dougie> yes win32codecs are installed
[09:47] <Carsten-> i have there is no backup.
[09:47] <variant> dougie: that should allow it to play.
[09:47] <epl> Carsten-: dpkg-reconfigure usually creates a backup called xorg.conf.<somechecksumordate>
[09:47] <variant> dougie: does it give an error or anything when you try to open it?
[09:47] <dougie> they play in amarok
[09:47] <variant> dougie: cool :)
[09:47] <epl> Carsten-: then you have to generate a new one that works
[09:47] <Carsten-> when I ran it, it didnt do that
[09:47] <dougie> just not xmms
[09:47] <variant> dougie: you might want to change the amarok theme, the default one is not that great.. take a look in the settings
[09:48] <__doc__> howdy, I think pycentral is broken. I have a fix too. What do I do now?
[09:48] <ubuntu_> exit
[09:48] <Carsten-> epl, i have treied that command so many times with so many different config options I can not get any one of them to work,.
[09:48] <MindFury> Aw BOO wrong Nvidia Drivers
[09:48] <epl> Carsten-: ok
[09:49] <Peter_Johnsson> cant carsten just edit his, someone upload one of their unchanged
[09:49] <railk> having problems with nexuiz package: http://code.bulix.org/0jfuef-36800
[09:49] <Carsten-> So i guess that leaves me with one option, re-load, right?
[09:49] <MatthewV> MindFury, essentially, install 'nvidia-glx' run the command on that page, restart x, install beryl packages from the beryl repo, start beryl
[09:49] <dougie> does amarok have themes?
[09:50] <variant> dougie: yeah
[09:50] <epl> Carsten-: what caused the problem in the first place?
[09:50] <dougie> i don't see a section for themes...just color schemes
[09:50] <Carsten-> trying to get my monitor to work at its native resolution 1440x900
[09:50] <Athensman> why does linux suck?
[09:50] <noobi97> morning^^
[09:51] <Carsten-> thats all I want if i can get it to that ill be happy
[09:51] <variant> dougie: at the bottom of that settings page, they are called styles
[09:51] <epl> Carsten-: do you have a CRT or LCD?
[09:51] <dougie> carsten if you get your correct drivers working that usually fixes it
[09:51] <Carsten-> but no matter what I do I can not get it to work at that reswolution in ubuntu
[09:51] <Carsten-> lcd
[09:51] <variant> Athensman: dunno, linux is a kernel. try a different kernel
[09:51] <epl> Carsten-: what graphic chipset?
[09:51] <dougie> Carsten- what video card do you have?
[09:51] <Carsten-> ive tried all the nvidia drivers dougie they crashed it to
[09:51] <Carsten-> nvidia 7300
[09:52] <epl> Carsten-: or better, what driver do you usually use
[09:52] <Athensman> windows is better
[09:52] <variant> Athensman: #ubuntu-offtopic for that conversation please
[09:52] <dougie> Carsten- are you useing the vesa driver now?
[09:52] <Carsten-> this is a fresh install again, so what ever the ubuntu defaults are
[09:52] <Shaffox> how can i make a program load at startup ?
[09:53] <variant> Shaffox: in system > preferences > session
[09:53] <dougie> variant: you mean Context Browser Style?
[09:53] <variant> dougie: yes
[09:53] <MindFury> hey anyone done any DVD "backing up" with Ubuntu?
[09:53] <Carsten-> im not sure what driver it actually is
[09:53] <Athensman> ubuntu cant even play dvd's
[09:53] <dougie> why do you put "backing up" in quotes?
[09:53] <MindFury> curious as to see how the software compares to windows software
[09:53] <dougie> is the code for "pirateing"
[09:54] <variant> Athensman: it can of course, please troll in annother channel
[09:54] <MindFury> i like quotes
[09:54] <dougie> lol
[09:54] <MindFury> and it grabs ur attention
[09:54] <Athensman> no it cant
[09:54] <variant> !offtopic | Athensman
[09:54] <ubotu> Athensman: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <MindFury> sorry
[09:54] <MindFury> my bad ubot
[09:55] <Shaffox> variant, it is in the list, but still it won't booit
[09:55] <Shaffox> *boot
[09:55] <MindFury> Athensman i got u in trouble
[09:55] <MindFury> hehe
[09:55] <MindFury> the bot is mad
[09:55] <MindFury> jk
[09:55] <Athensman> so
[09:55] <variant> Shaffox: how do you mean?
[09:56] <Shaffox> variant, well, i've add the program in the list, but it still doesn't load at startup
[09:56] <MindFury> hey MathhewV or anyone Running live CD with a USB stick using for storage how can i update the nvidia driver
[09:56] <craig_> hi, i just installed fluxbox, but when I log into the environment, like...its blank..the menus aren't populated or anything..there are no apps...can someone help?
[09:56] <variant> Shaffox: you sure about that? what program is it?
[09:56] <Shaffox> variant, yep, it's gmail-notifier
[09:57] <variant> Shaffox: if you run it manually does it start?
[09:57] <Shaffox> variant, yes
[09:57] <noobi97> any1 from hungary?
[09:57] <Shaffox> variant, in what map is this program installed?
[09:58] <zoli2k> Hi, I have problem with apache.
[09:58] <zoli2k> it marks that files are transfared
[09:58] <dougie> variant i switched to the mini mode in amarok how do i get back to the pl editor?
[09:58] <MatthewV> MindFury, what exactly do you mean by update?
[09:58] <dougie> nevermind
[09:58] <variant> dougie: not sure, just a sek
[09:58] <zoli2k> but on the other site: Connection closed at byte 0.
[09:58] <dougie> variant: i figured it out
[09:58] <zoli2k> so nothing transfared
[09:58] <variant> Shaffox: you scandinavian?
[09:58] <variant> Shaffox: or dutch
[09:59] <MatthewV> MindFury, the nvidia-glx package contains the nvidia prop. driver
[09:59] <variant> Shaffox: anyway, if you run gmail-notifier manually and then open up the session dialog
[09:59] <MatthewV> MindFury, i gtg now, so catcha - good luck :) there should be plent of people who can help you with following that guide
[09:59] <radio> hi can anyone tell me what is the root pass in ubuntu
[09:59] <variant> Shaffox: and click the "current session" tab you will see it running, you can save that state
[09:59] <epl> radio: there is none
[10:00] <Flannel> radio: there is none, the root account is disabled.
[10:00] <variant> radio: there isn't one, ubuntu uses sudo
[10:00] <variant> !sudo | radio
[10:00] <ubotu> radio: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:00] <epl> radio: you use sudo to gain superuser rights
[10:00] <variant> !root | radio
[10:00] <radio> thx for help
[10:01] <variant> radio: np
[10:02] <noobi97> whats the problem?
[10:02] <noobi97> noob-noti@noob-noti-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[10:02] <noobi97> Password:
[10:02] <noobi97> Csomaglistk olvassa... Ksz
[10:02] <noobi97> Fggsgi fa ptse
[10:02] <noobi97> llapotinformcik olvassa... Ksz
[10:02] <noobi97> E: Az albbi csomag nem tallhat: 915resolution
[10:03] <compwiz18> can anyone tell me the name of the alternative to bash that has a z in its name?
[10:04] <threeseas> cards in isa slots, ie. old sound blaster cards --- is there a way to get a live cd to recognize them?
[10:04] <variant> compwiz18: zsh
[10:04] <compwiz18> variant: thank you :D
[10:04] <variant> compwiz18: i think there is tzsh too
[10:05] <radio> how can i edit an /etc/default file
[10:05] <SplashTK> Hey, I am halfway through making a partition on gparted but am stuck, can anyone lend a hand, I would be very greatful
[10:05] <dystopianray> threeseas: is it isa pnp?
[10:05] <variant> radio: with sudo nano -w /etc/default, you might prefer to us gksudo gedit /etc/default
[10:05] <variant> Shaffox: just ask
[10:05] <puff> Evening.  I'm installing ubuntu server on a really new machine;  apparently the motherboard requires kernel 2.6.20.  I want to install Edgy on this machine;  is there a process for genreating a Live CD that uses kernel 2.6.20?
[10:06] <threeseas> dynstopianray: I don't know - going thru a bunch of old system that I'm wanting to set up as linux boxes to give away
[10:06] <dystopianray> puff: feisty has 2.6.20
[10:06] <compwiz18> variant: ok, thanks
[10:06] <dystopianray> threeseas: try alsaconf
[10:06] <puff> dystopianray: Yeah, but feisty is not stable yet...
[10:07] <SplashTK> Hey, I am halfway through making a partition on gparted but am stuck, can anyone lend a hand, I would be very greatfull.
[10:07] <dystopianray> puff: you could try making your own livecd with a 2.6.20 kernel, like the one from feisty, I don't know
[10:07] <dystopianray> SplashTK: what problem are you having?
[10:07] <threeseas> dynstopianray: thanks
[10:07] <dystopianray> threeseas: it's possible to get it working,it's just that isa can't be autodetected properly most of the time
[10:08] <puff> dystopianray: Danke.
[10:08] <puff> How easy is it to downgrade from feisty to edgy?  Maybe I could use the feisty live CD and then downgrade to edgy...
[10:08] <SplashTK> dystopianray, i've partitioned my drive, 138GB for XP, which is already installed and 14.65GB for the ubuntu I wanna install
[10:09] <threeseas> dynstopianray: that makes since and also suggest that I need to do an install rather than run live.
[10:09] <Flannel> puff: downgrading isn't supported, and won't solve your problem anyway
[10:09] <SuoYlimys> hey guys, i'm now installing ubuntu again. but; if i want to create three partititions for linux; the /, /home and /swap, should they all be created as "primary partitions"?
[10:09] <SplashTK> so I have an ntfs and an extended partition
[10:09] <radio> variant : thx
[10:09] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: you'll want to create a partition for /var as well...
[10:09] <variant> radio: np
[10:09] <dystopianray> puff: if you don't want to run feisty beta, wait till april 19 when the final release is available
[10:09] <puff> Flannel: Well, been doing some googling, looks like feisty's scheduled for April 15th, maybe I can live with unstable until then.
[10:09] <sky_monkey007> otherwise your system could easily fill up the hard drive with log files
[10:10] <SuoYlimys> oh.. o.o
[10:10] <puff> April 19th?  Same difference.
[10:10] <Flannel> puff: If you need the new kernel, just use feisty.  You're using servers, they shouldn't change much (and are probably already solid) anyway.
[10:10] <puff> Flannel: That's reassuring.  Oky.
[10:10] <Flannel> puff: You shouldn't be using the liveCD to install a server anyway.  Alternate or server CD.
[10:10] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: there is a limit as to how many primary partitions you can have.  I'd do just one primary partition.
[10:10] <Flannel> puff: Most of the bugs are in GUI stuff anyway.  X won't work one day, etc
[10:10] <sky_monkey007> make the rest extended
[10:10] <Bonez56> is there any software for ubuntu that will allow battery management for laptops? I used to have windows and there was a program that would completely flatten and then recharge the battery, kind of reconditioning it
[10:10] <SuoYlimys> thanks sky_moneky
[10:11] <sky_monkey007> np :)
[10:11] <SplashTK> dystopianray, I found a tutorial, I'll follow that and if I can't work it out I'll ask k
[10:11] <variant> puff: it's not terribly unstable actualy, some programs have bugs in feisty that makes for a challenging time. feisty is going to rock quite frankyly when it is released.. the codec discovery feature is fantastic, will put an end to a lot of support requests in here i think
[10:11] <SuoYlimys> *monkey
[10:11] <dystopianray> Bonez56: that sort of stuff is largely a myth, the program was probably detrimental to your battery's health
[10:11] <Peter_Johnsson> Flannel: Do you know which daily buid is going to get a fix for the jmicron bug on the main beta page. lots of people can't even boot
[10:11] <Bonez56> dystopianray, lol ok cool :) i just noticed that on my 6 month old laptop, ubuntu reports that it's last full charge was about 20% less than the battery capacity
[10:11] <Serge_K> hi all
[10:12] <Flannel> Peter_Johnsson: absolutely no idea.  I only recently upgraded to Dapper.  To give you an idea of how much I care about new software ;)
[10:12] <Serge_K> anyone having LTSP experience?
[10:12] <dystopianray> why would so many peopel by crappy jmicron hardware?
[10:12] <variant> Bonez56: that applies to batteries that suffer from "charge memory" if you have a lithium ion (li ion) then this is not an issue
[10:12] <Flannel> Peter_Johnsson: Check launchpad, that should give you some idea
[10:12] <variant> dystopianray: i know, sucks eh
[10:12] <Bonez56> variant, yes it's a li-on, its only a 6 month old toshiba...
[10:12] <sky_monkey007> I'm not a Ubuntu user (yet), but does Xen run fine under either Dapper or Feisty?
[10:13] <Peter_Johnsson> its included by default in lots of mobo's like lots of high end Asus mobos which certainly aren't crap
[10:13] <SplashTK> dystopianray, do I need to make a linux swap?
[10:13] <Flannel> !xen | sky_monkey007
[10:13] <ubotu> sky_monkey007: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[10:13] <variant> Bonez56: what model? some toshibas have shocking power management (some have excellent to be true though)
[10:13] <SplashTK> dystopianray, or will it make it itself?
[10:13] <dystopianray> SplashTK: you need to makea  partition for it
[10:13] <Bonez56> variant, Toshiba M40
[10:13] <SplashTK> dystopianray, k 1GB enough?
[10:14] <dystopianray> SplashTK: how much ram do you have?
[10:14] <SuoYlimys> sky_monkey007: this doesn't allow me to do that :D
[10:14] <SuoYlimys> this wants me to make a primary partition, after that one extended and one logical
[10:14] <sky_monkey007> variant: while Li-ion don't have a physical battery memory, the controller chip that monitors battery levels can cause problem if you don't calibrate your battery by fully charging it and discharging it on a monthly basis.
[10:14] <variant> Bonez56: shouldn't have any problems. have you tested it with windows recently?
[10:14] <SplashTK> 512mb
[10:14] <variant> sky_monkey007: I wasn't aware that that was a problem
[10:14] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: you can't make one primary partition, and several extended partitions under it?
[10:14] <SuoYlimys> seems that i can't
[10:14] <Bonez56> variant, nope.. have not tried. don't even know which software program I could use on it... My old laptop was a Compaq but it came with its own software
[10:14] <SplashTK> dystopianray, 512MB
[10:15] <dystopianray> SplashTK: yeah 1GB is fine
[10:15] <SplashTK> dystopianray, , cool
[10:15] <sky_monkey007> variant: it can be an issue.  It all depends on who makes your battery module.  I run on an older Apple Powerbook G4, and that's what Apple recommends.
[10:15] <sky_monkey007> (yes, I do run Linux on it)
[10:15] <dystopianray> SplashTK: you don't technically need a swap partition, linux can use swap files, like windows, but the installer doesnt' handle that situation
[10:15] <variant> sky_monkey007: apple sucks though ;)
[10:15] <SplashTK> dystopianray, okay, so this will be better
[10:16] <sky_monkey007> variant: I personally like their laptops.  They are far less clunky than most.  I've always been a fan of PPC.
[10:16] <sky_monkey007> I've yet to try one of the Macbook Pro's, though.
[10:16] <krolben> hi all, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 6.10. The startup screen (where I choose to install to harddisk) appears fine, but when the next screen (grey background, and a red marker that I use to choose install options) appear, the screen is all blurry and skewed. It's impossible to read anything. What can I do?
[10:17] <variant> sky_monkey007: yeah, just kidding. ppc rocks and apple tend to make stylish systems.. i don't like the touch pad on some though
[10:17] <sky_monkey007> I do tend to dislike Apple desktops because of their lack of hardware expandability, however.
[10:17] <SplashTK> dystopianray, Okay so now I have ntfs 138GB, which my winxp install is on, ext3 13.67GB which I want to install ubuntu on, and a 1GB linux Swap
[10:17] <SplashTK> dystopianray,  that sound good?
[10:17] <Flannel> krolben: Did you verfy the md5 of the iso (unless it was a torret)?  did you burn at 4x?
[10:17] <variant> sky_monkey007: indeed, who wants a closed white box (buy a refrigerator)
[10:17] <dystopianray> SplashTK: yeah that sounds fine
[10:18] <krolben> maybe I didn't do that. Maybe I should d/l it again and give it another try? Has there been other examples of this issue?
[10:18] <variant> SplashTK: you really don't need that much swap, it will never get used but with a large disk it doesn't matter i suppose
[10:18] <sky_monkey007> variant: they aren't bad for server use, but for a personal system, I'd rather go beige-box :)
[10:18] <variant> sky_monkey007: hehe
[10:18] <Flannel> krolben: Check the md5 of the iso.  If it's not bad, there's no reason to re-download.
[10:18] <sky_monkey007> I do run a dual Xeon XServe at work, and it does haul major ass.
[10:18] <Dragonath> hi
[10:18] <SplashTK> dystopianray, okay now I got mount point and 3 things to choose from
[10:18] <sky_monkey007> suprisingly they were cheaper than a Dell with the same specs
[10:18] <krolben> ok, I'll check. Do you know what the problem could be, if the md5 is ok?
[10:19] <SplashTK> dystopianray, first drop down says /media//hda1
[10:19] <variant> sky_monkey007: i work in a datacenter, not a mac in the entire place that i have seen
[10:19] <Flannel> krolben: But, if you didn't burn at 4x, then that's a good source of errors (bad burns, that is).
[10:19] <dystopianray> SplashTK: set '/' as the ~13GB partition
[10:19] <SuoYlimys> sky_monkey007: is it okay if i'll just make them as two primary partitions, one extended and one logical? will it work if they are like that?
[10:19] <the_man_mountain> How do you update suversion under ubuntu?
[10:19] <dystopianray> SplashTK: and swap to that 1GB one
[10:19] <SplashTK> k
[10:19] <dystopianray> the_man_mountain: update the subversion software?
[10:19] <the_man_mountain> dys: Yes
[10:19] <dystopianray> SplashTK: is this your first install?
[10:19] <SplashTK> dystopianray, there's a another 2 drop downs after that, make them blank?
[10:19] <SplashTK> dystopianray, yeah lol, sorry
[10:20] <dystopianray> SplashTK: yes just make them blank, you only have two relevant partitions
[10:20] <krolben> could it be a hardware issue? I've got Ubuntu Desktop 6.10 installed fine on the system (but want to install Server instead)
[10:20] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: I think you may be misunderstanding how parition heirarchy works...
[10:20] <SplashTK> dystopianray, okay done that
[10:20] <dystopianray> the_man_mountain: you'll need to find a newer deb, or upgrade to a newer ubuntu release
[10:20] <sky_monkey007> you have a primary partition which can have extended partitions...
[10:20] <sky_monkey007> under the extended partitions, you can break it up into more logical partitons
[10:20] <SuoYlimys> sky_monkey007: it's the only way this is allowing me to do it o.o
[10:21] <SplashTK> dystopianray, hit install? I verfied that everything was right, as in installing on the right partitions etc
[10:21] <Flannel> krolben: actually, it can be.  The server CD has less HW support than the others.  A good choice would be grab the alternate CD, install a console-only system, then change to the server kernel if you want.
[10:21] <variant> SuoYlimys: make the extended partition to take the whole rest of the disk and make logical partiitons inside that one
[10:21] <dystopianray> SplashTK: yes just hit install and it should all be fine
[10:21] <SuoYlimys> umm.. okay :D
[10:21] <SuoYlimys> i'll try
[10:21] <SplashTK> dystopianray, k thanks, you are a legend
[10:21] <dystopianray> SplashTK: are you installing edgy?
[10:22] <SplashTK> Ubuntu Ultimate 1.3
[10:22] <SplashTK> So yeah I think edgy
[10:22] <krolben> Flannel: the system is on an mini-itx board, so it could probably be the hardware... Thanks a lot for the help
[10:22] <Flannel> SplashTK: Those "Ultimate" editions aren't official, and rather silly; everything included is available in the normal (supported) Ubuntu.
[10:22] <Dragonath> mm any way to play windows media player plugin movies in firefox? I can play them if I download them just fine, but not in browser...
[10:23] <zoli21> Hi! Is there an apache 2.2 bacport for edgy?
[10:23] <SplashTK> Flannel, Yeah, but beryl and everything is already installed and works out of the box
[10:23] <Flannel> zoli21: nope
[10:24] <SuoYlimys> but... who can i make those logical partitions inside the extended partition?
[10:24] <krolben> exit
[10:24] <krolben> woops
[10:24] <SuoYlimys> how
[10:24] <sky_monkey007> variant: if your in a Windows centric environment then you probably have no real need for an Xserve.  We run a good deal of Mac clients, so I use the Xserve as an Open Directory (LDAP) server to manage my Mac client user and machine settings, and it also serves as a SMB and AFP file server, and Jabber IM server too.
[10:24] <zoli21> :(
[10:24] <variant> SplashTK: really, the "ultimate" editions are not worth it, for the one or two clicks they remove in installing beryl they also remove all support options that you would have with the real version
[10:24] <variant> sky_monkey007: it's very heterogenous, but mostly windows (:/)
[10:25] <Flannel> zoli21: if you want apache 2.2 you'll have to (possibly wait to) upgrade to Feisty.
[10:25] <sky_monkey007> OS 10.4 Server can integrate "ok" with Active Directory, but you can't administer any of your AD accounts with it, since Microsoft Active Directory isn't pure LDAP.
[10:25] <variant> sky_monkey007: just googled for xserve, had no idea apple made rackables lol
[10:25] <SuoYlimys> variant: how can i make those logical partitions inside the extended partition?
[10:25] <variant> sky_monkey007: I can't see it being overly populer tbh in the face of cheap commodity hardware
[10:25] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: select the extended partition, and create logical partitions underneath it.
[10:26] <zoli21> Flannel: I built a usb distro based on edgy, it is not so easy uprgrade everything and apache 2.0 doesn't work if I run it on the live usb.
[10:26] <variant> SuoYlimys: an extended partition is a container for logical partitions
[10:26] <Dragonath> right, so no windows media player plugin for a firefox on linux?
[10:26] <SuoYlimys> how do i create them there? :D
[10:26] <variant> SuoYlimys: to be honest, in the installer gui i have no idea
[10:27] <sky_monkey007> variant: well when we priced out a similar Dell server with fiber-channel NIC and a 10.5TB RAID enclosure, an XServe with a 10.5TB XRaid was our most economical solution.
[10:27] <frafra> hi all
[10:27] <SplashTK> variant, this one has alot of stuff, not sure if anything was removed :S
[10:27] <variant> sky_monkey007: really, they look very expensive
[10:27] <Flannel> zoli21: Why doesn't apache work?  What makes you think 2.2 will?
[10:27] <variant> SplashTK: what you mean?
[10:28] <SplashTK> variant, the support stuff you were refering too, don't think it was taken out :S
[10:28] <sky_monkey007> variant: not as expensive as Dell was.  Our server cost us about 6.5K, and the XRaid costs us about 14K I think.
[10:28] <eyalw> installed xp (with no SP2) on macbook, got problems, try to upgrade, didnt work, so the common advice is format the partition and try again
[10:28] <variant> sky_monkey007: nice
[10:28] <variant> SplashTK: sorry i don't know what you mean
[10:28] <frafra> is the macmini intel festy compatible?
[10:28] <sky_monkey007> the XRaids are great for the price.  They have total remote administration, easy as hell to setup...iLO as well.
[10:28] <zoli21> Flannel: If I request files from apache2 on the server side i got that everything is tranfared but on the other site data with zero length is received.
[10:28] <Flannel> frafra: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support, thanks.
[10:28] <frafra> thanks
[10:29] <Triddle> I did a dist-upgrade and now when I try to modprobe my sound module I get tons of errors about missing symbols; this seems to of happened to other people using ubuntu but I haven't found a solution yet. Anyone have one?
[10:29] <variant> sky_monkey007: cool, we should probably not discuss it here though :)
[10:29] <Flannel> zoli21: and what makes you think 2.2 would fix that?
[10:29] <zoli21> Flannel: some types of files are transferred (php, gif) and som not (jpg,png)
[10:29] <dystopianray> Triddle: was there a new kernel installed? you might need to reboot
[10:29] <sky_monkey007> The only downside is that the drives on the XRaid are ATA-133.  I wish they would've released a model with SAS drives, but meh.
[10:29] <Triddle> dystopianary: I have rebooted
[10:29] <SuoYlimys> and why is this leaving 4,7GB diskspace unused
[10:29] <Triddle> and I reran depmod -a just to be sure
[10:30] <sky_monkey007> true :)  I'll shutup about the *cough* other brand
[10:30] <SuoYlimys> or unallocated
[10:30] <Flannel> zoli21: sounds like a misconfiguration, not a versioning thing.  If it is a bug, file a bug, and Im sure it'll get fixed.
[10:30] <zoli21> Flannel: I am not sure if it will fix something, but I tried almost everything.
[10:30] <Flannel> zoli21: If you can be sure it's a bug (ask in #apache, they might be able to figure out whats going on), file a bug report on launchpad.net, and it'll get fixed.
[10:30] <zoli21> Flannel: I am sure that a bug for a derived distro is not acceptable
[10:31] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: you should be able to allocate the entire amount of the extended partition as logical partitions.
[10:31] <compwiz18> would something bad happen if I symlinked bash to zsh, so that the default shell is zsh?
[10:31] <sky_monkey007> unless it's figuring that your going to lose that much to formatting, but I'd doubt it...
[10:31] <Flannel> zoli21: Well, if it's something you did, then presumably, when you upgrade to Feisty, you'll do the same thing.   \O/
[10:31] <sky_monkey007> nice :)
[10:32] <SuoYlimys> i didn't notice what did i do differently this time :D
[10:32] <Flannel> compwiz18: that's not how you're supposed to do it.  If you want your default shell to be zsh, set it.
[10:32] <zoli21> Flannel: With clean installation i got the same error
[10:32] <sky_monkey007> SuoYlimys: sometimes that happens to me too, hehe
[10:32] <compwiz18> Flannel: ah, ok.  how do i set it?
[10:32] <Triddle> compwiz18: does zsh and bash share a common scripting language? if not, you'll disable your computer for sure
[10:32] <SuoYlimys> :D
[10:32] <zoli21> Flannel: and I am unable to locate the source of the problem
[10:32] <sky_monkey007> my IT director always asks me "So what did you do to fix it?"  I always have to himhaw around the question.
[10:32] <Flannel> compwiz18: GUI?  Uh, 'users and groups', CLI?  usermod (-s option)
[10:33] <compwiz18> Flannel: ok, thanks
[10:33] <Flannel> zoli21: if, with a clean install you get the same error, then it's a bug.
[10:33] <zoli21> Flannel: Ok, I write a submission on launchpad
[10:34] <frafra> is edgy compatible with macmini intel-based?
[10:35] <sky_monkey007> frafra: it probably is
[10:35] <genii> From what I hear not natively yet but it can be done manually
[10:36] <sky_monkey007> I believe the mac-mini uses the same chipset as the macbooks.
[10:36] <Carsten-> back.. I sorted out all my probs & got nvidia driver working.
[10:36] <sky_monkey007> Oh, your asking about Edgy.  Nevermind.  I don't know :)
[10:36] <genii> frafra: Some info here http://modular.math.washington.edu/macbook/
[10:39] <genii> frafra Also here: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/HOWTO
[10:39] <frafra> thanks
[10:39] <SuoYlimys> oh man
[10:40] <SuoYlimys> i have to start the installation from the beginning
[10:41] <olimpico> If I install Ubuntu server ediion, would it also have the stupid sudo configuration with no root?
[10:41] <zim> olimpico ye
[10:42] <zim> s
[10:42] <zim> but its not that stupid abd if you want root just sudo bash
[10:42] <gwenn_> hello
[10:42] <sky_monkey007> it can be annoying having to use sudo in front of every command, though.
[10:43] <sky_monkey007> I can see why they prefer the use of sudo, though
[10:43] <zim> you dont have to
[10:43] <sky_monkey007> i know