[21:15] <debian> Where is the kernel grub shpiød boot?
[21:15] <Ktron> !uptime
[21:15] <debian> should*
[21:15] <Lynet> avis: I seem to remember reading that it works fine for at least some. The EvE forums probably has information about it.
[21:15] <mDemocritus> is there any kernels recommended for hardy besides 2.6.24-14 and -16?
[21:15] <Bagualas> I was using an USB mouse, now I installed a PS2 and mouse stop working. How may I configure the new mouse?
[21:15] <yofel> Brandenatwork, try deleting something using the 'rm' command in the terminal
[21:16] <barbara_> lynet sent
[21:16] <DrMitch> Bagualas, edit you /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:16] <avis> Lynet, yes it works ok with the exception of sound.  its actually a pretty neat game, i dont keep up with such things, seemed like a very nice time waster.  i might pay the fee if i could get sound working
[21:16] <joaopinto> Bagualas, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:16] <CorbinFox> anyone have experience with a Wacom Cintiq tablet in linux?  like any issues with it or problems to look out for?  i will probably be getting the 20" model soon and i'd prefer not to have to go to Windows each time I want to do some art
[21:16] <Invisionfree> Hi -- I installed Debian, and it doesn't detect my wireless card *at all* .. Why?
[21:16] <amrik> mDemocritus: there is -18 available as an update now
[21:16] <Infinito_> denis, shpiød ?  I didn't get that :)
[21:16] <amrik> Invisionfree: this is #ubuntu, dawg.
[21:16] <mDemocritus> Invisionfree: ask in #debian
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Invisionfree This is not the debian channel... please /join #debian
[21:17] <joaopinto> Invisionfree, try #debian
[21:17] <Invisionfree> ..Anyone else?
[21:17] <Lynet> barbara_: Transmission failed. Could you put it on flickr or someplace like that?
[21:17] <Infinito_> there are several ways of making a live-usb-stick
[21:17] <Syphys> newserver irc.chat-land.fr
[21:17] <Syphys> oups
[21:17] <amrik> !torrent
[21:17] <Invisionfree> FYI: I'm banned in #Debian for reasons currently unknown to me ..
[21:17] <mDemocritus> amrik: hmm i hope it fixed the hdd detection issue
[21:17] <amrik> !torrents
[21:17] <Brandenatwork> yofel: after using rm, I still have 0 bytes remaining
[21:17] <amrik> mDemocritus: what issue is that?
[21:17] <yofel> o.O
[21:18] <tyranos> for a live usb stick check this https://launchpad.net/liveusb
[21:18] <fiber> hello, i am ssh'd to a server and i'm running a program in the foreground... is there a way to disconnect it from my current seesion so i can disconnect from ssh and have it still run?
[21:18] <unavailable> anyone know if there is a version of opera that works in ubuntu?
[21:18] <mDemocritus> amrik: hurg... lemmie find the bug report for ya
[21:18] <danbhfive> Invisionfree: try #debian-ops
[21:18] <manoff> fiber: yes
[21:18] <joaopinto> fiber, nohup program &
[21:18] <Grim76__> fiber: Look into screen
[21:18] <manoff> fiber: run the program in background
[21:18] <manoff> fiber: and yes screen is also useful
[21:18] <joaopinto> if you need to recover the console later, then you should use screen instead
[21:18] <mDemocritus> amrik: rats can't log in anymore, that machine's ip must have changed
[21:18] <fiber> cool, thanks everyone
[21:19] <yofel> Brandenatwork, do you get any error messages?
[21:19] <m_newton> Yasumoto, well... better effects in dev vs same old compiz fusion...
[21:19] <debian> Can I apt-get that?
[21:19] <amrik> mDemocritus: you don't have a static ip for it?
[21:19] <Brandenatwork> yofel: nope
[21:19] <mDemocritus> amrik: it would fail to assign the drive to /dev/sdb1, 2, etc
[21:19] <unavailable> nvrmnd i found it
[21:19] <Infinito_> Invisionfree, try #debian on OFTC network, the channel there is big too...
[21:19] <fiber> is there a way to do this to a program that is already running? i've been running this data-analysis program for the past 4 hours but i need to leave where i am now
[21:19] <mDemocritus> amrik: nah it's my buddy's, he's got a cable isp
[21:20] <microwaver> ronnie, I don't seem to be able to find anything about quike-key
[21:20] <newk> any one have any tips on getting tux type running ?????
[21:20] <joaopinto> newk, what is that ? an application ? how did you install it ?
[21:20] <martman> anyone know the default username and password for a mantis install?
[21:20] <mDemocritus> amrik: i found a couple bugs filed for it, cross distro, affecting red hat and ubuntu, so it looks like an upstream issue
[21:20] <martman> i dont think it asked me
[21:21] <newk> joaopinto: by the synaptoc ... its a applicatrion to teach typing
[21:21] <yofel> Brandenatwork, I'm running out of ideas... | try deleting something as root (or sudo) or try fsck on your partition using the live cd
[21:21] <joaopinto> newk, have you tried "tuxtype" from the terminal ?
[21:21] <Brandenatwork> yofel: yeah I am in root right now with nautilus, I am looking for the .trash
[21:21] <Yasumoto> m_newton: yeah, for sure.
[21:22] <newk> just did and same, black screens and have to press esc key to return to gui
[21:22] <yofel> Brandenatwork, as of ubuntu 8.04 the .trash folder was moved to .local/share/trash
[21:22] <mDemocritus> amrik: the dmesg output is similar to this comment on that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/222322/comments/10
[21:22] <mumhuh> may be a stupid question but is there any way to select what ubuntu installs? to avoid using up ~4gig worth of space?
[21:23] <danbhfive> mumhuh: try the server install, then install away
[21:23] <Brandenatwork> yofel: i appreciate your help, I am going to do a restart, then its live cd time
[21:23] <joaopinto> mumhuh, kind off, do a minimal install, with the server or alternate cd, and install what you need later
[21:23] <waffe> newk: u not annoying, the fact that i have to stuff around in xorg.conf is annoying
[21:23] <microwaver> does anyone how to adapt the height of maximumed windows?
[21:23] <littlepinkdot> Where is the php executable stored on 8.04?
[21:23] <littlepinkdot> Its not in /usr/bin/php
[21:23] <mumhuh> danbhfive via the text installer on the alternate?
[21:23] <mDemocritus> littlepinkdot: trying to get the ktorrent web interface to work?
[21:23] <yofel> Brandenatwork, sorry if I couldn't help...
[21:24] <m_newton> Pazmanx, you there
[21:24] <joaopinto> newk, it works fine for me
[21:24] <danbhfive> mumhuh: i dunno, I thought there was a server install
[21:24] <dirk_> I lost the network management icon in the panel when I removed (and added again) the message field (the field where the amarok and skype button etc. appear). How do I get the icon back?
[21:24] <amrik> mDemocritus: is there any reason to believe that something bad happened to the disk?
[21:24] <mumhuh> sorry i meant joaopinto... wrong line
[21:24] <littlepinkdot> mDemocritus, no :-/ Installing FreePBX
[21:24] <waffe> newk: i enabled the ati drivers via "System"-> "administration" -> "hardware drivers"
[21:25] <mDemocritus> amrik: nope... works fine with the 2.6.22-17 kernel from gutsy
[21:25] <waffe> *poke* guys, still no takers on my flicker issues?
[21:25] <tvn2007> hi I want to run a command on a host machine via ssh -- I believe it's ssh -exec soemthing but can't remember correctly.  any help ?
[21:25] <mDemocritus> amrik: but X doesn't work with that kernel D:
[21:25] <yofel> dirk_, right-click panel -> add to panel -> network-monitor i think
[21:25] <crdlb> waffe: that is a driver limitation, don't use compiz if you want 3d apps to be flicker-free
[21:25] <amrik> mDemocritus: aw man what the hell that sucks. whats the error with X?
[21:25] <dirk_> yofel: no, that's not it, I tried that
[21:26] <joaopinto> littlepinkdot, yes it does get install into /usr/bin, you need to install  php5-cli
[21:26] <cosmic_> hi @ all
[21:26] <mirak> hi
[21:26] <mirak> grub detects a bad root drive number, how do I fix that ?
[21:26] <mDemocritus> littlepinkdot: is libapache-mod-php installed?
[21:26] <mDemocritus> littlepinkdot: or whatever the right name for it is....
[21:26] <cosmic_> how can i delete a file called like this : GdAQ@;???gf??eEDS???
[21:26] <waffe> crdlb: great! ill try that :) lol after 2 weeks of google and such, thats like the best answer ive had :)
[21:26] <mirak> I installed with a usb pen, and since I removed it it's not ok
[21:26] <m_newton> Starnestommy, you there
[21:26] <yofel> dirk_, yeah sorry, wrong one, try: 'sudo NetworkManager' in the termainal
[21:26] <danbhfive> cosmic_: try tab completion
[21:27] <littlepinkdot> thanks joaopinto, cli was what I needed (used to the RH way of things).
[21:27] <mDemocritus> amrik: it's the normal "no screens found". i could probably fix it, but i hate messing with xorg.conf when it's not my machine...
[21:27] <joaopinto> :)
[21:27] <newk> waffe: this jus gives me my nvidia driver...
[21:27] <cosmic_> that doesnt work danbhfive
[21:27] <mDemocritus> littlepinkdot: libapache2-mod-php5 should be it
[21:27] <joaopinto> cosmic_, ls -i (to list the inode numbers)
[21:27] <microwaver> how does one adapt the height of a maximized window.
[21:27] <waffe> newk: check the ubuntu wiki, there is an excellent guide for that. cant remember exactly where it is located though....
[21:27] <dirk_> yofel: did not work, I didn't even get a message
[21:28] <joaopinto> cosmic_, find . -inum number -exec rm {} \;
[21:28] <amrik> mDemocritus: also its not easy to remotely debug xserver problems. did you try the latest vanilla kernel? (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[21:28] <cosmic_> joaopinto:  and then ?
[21:28] <joaopinto> use it with caution
[21:28] <joaopinto> dont provide the wrong inode nr :P
[21:28] <Kootie> hi guys, is there anyway to capture the keycodes? cat /proc/kb or something to capture them? im trying to find the keycodes to remap a gaming keyboard
[21:28] <debian> How do I mount an iso?
[21:28] <cosmic_> joaopinto:  would you pls be so kind to give me a other example ?
[21:28] <yofel> dirk_, i think i found it... try 'nm-applet'
[21:28] <littlepinkdot> mDemocritus, php-cli was what i needed
[21:28] <mumhuh> joaopinto via the alternate cd text installer? does that offer a selection which packages id like to install or just the minimal install?
[21:29] <littlepinkdot> mDemocritus, no need for the apache module
[21:29] <newk> waffe: thanks ... sorry not all that clear :) i a linux newbie .. having very few problems ... compiz running and most aplications... thanks anyway
[21:29] <joaopinto> mumhuh, no, you can do that later, by using a package manager
[21:29] <joaopinto> or you know the packages name and install with apt-get, your you install synaptic
[21:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !iso
[21:29] <joaopinto> and select from the list
[21:29] <dirk_> yofel: yep that's the one. Why did it get lost so easily? Anyway: thanks
[21:29] <waffe> newk: well try turning off compwiz and see what with tux :)
[21:29] <mDemocritus> littlepinkdot: ok try looking for /usr/local/bin/php
[21:30] <mDemocritus> or /usr/local/lib/php
[21:30] <newk> waffe: tried already haha ... mayb its jus not meant to be:L
[21:30] <joaopinto> cosmic_, ls -i lists the files prefixed with the inode number, the inode is the file location on the file system, is unique to each file
[21:30] <mumhuh> hm ok thanks... guess ill need to look into just how minimal the install is
[21:30] <joaopinto> cosmic_, then you use find with exec rm to find and remove the file with the specified inode number
[21:30] <cosmic_> joaopinto:  i know that , but whats with the find command
[21:30] <mDemocritus> amrik: indeed it isn't. the latest vanilla kernel supposedly fixes it, based on the comments on that bug, but again, since it's not my system, i'd prefer to keep it simple
[21:30] <joaopinto> cosmic_, ex: 12927108 XWii_2.2.1_source.tar.gz
[21:30] <cosmic_> ok ill try thanks allott
[21:31] <joaopinto> cosmic_, find . -inum 12927108 -exec rm {} \;
[21:31] <J-_> what is libglade-2.0 and libgnome-2.0 called in the Hardy distros? I'm trying to compile glipper 0.95.1 so I can use it in openbox in a panel.
[21:31] <cosmic_> exit
[21:31] <J-_> hardy repos*
[21:31] <joaopinto> J-_, apt-cache search libglade 2 dev
[21:31] <littlepinkdot> mDemocritus, lol thanks for the extra help but like I said, php-cli was what I needed. Im set.
[21:31] <m_newton> PORT scan??
[21:32] <DrFrasierCrane> where can I find Ubuntu's downstream patches for packages?
[21:32] <joaopinto> J-_, glipper is available from the repositories
[21:32] <Rocko> where is the project link for casper?
[21:32] <joaopinto> DrFrasierCrane, apt-get source package, it will get the source and ubuntu changes
[21:32] <mDemocritus> littlepinkdot: ah ok i misunderstood. glad to hear it :D
[21:32] <vixenfinder> noob Question: I'm running the latest version of ubuntu and trying to get the cube to work, However, when I rotate the cube It's shows as a Flat page I can rotate. Any Ideas on How to make it a cube?
[21:32] <DrFrasierCrane> joaopinto, I'm not using Ubuntu right now, I just want to get to the patches
[21:33] <joaopinto> vixenfinder, if you "rotate", it's not a plan object :)
[21:33] <J-_> joaopinto: How can I start it from command?
[21:33] <mDemocritus> vixenfinder: you have to add more desktops in the general section of the compiz config panel
[21:33] <prodigy> can i legaly use ubuntu in my corporation as operating system for my own applications and for my business running? adn is it free?
[21:33] <waffe> crdlb: well turning off compwiz gets google earth to "work", theres no flicker but the text is absolutely tiny. and now tux doesnt work anymore :) but if its a driver thing then thats that i suppose
[21:33] <vixenfinder> hmmm
[21:33] <joaopinto> DrFrasierCrane, packages.ubuntu.com, get the orig and diff.gz files
[21:33] <newk> is it possible to video call over ubuntu with msn?????
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> prodigy Yes
[21:33] <m_newton> how do i PORT scan??
[21:33] <joaopinto> J-_, glipper ?
[21:33] <Kootie> vixenfinder: make sure you have 4 desktops to make a cube
[21:33] <jougs> prodigy: of course
[21:33] <J-_> joaopinto: doesn't work.
[21:33] <prodigy> WOW
[21:33] <waffe> m_newton: nmap
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> m_newton I use grc.com  shields up
[21:34] <mDemocritus> newk: the only way i've seen it work is with kopete
[21:34] <joaopinto> J-_, I believe it's an applet, you need to add it from the applets menu
[21:34] <mDemocritus> newk: and you need to mess with it a bit i think
[21:34] <fyrestrtr> newk: the answer to your question is: No.
[21:34] <waffe> how do i check that i am running the latest ati drivers
[21:34] <vixenfinder> how do I add more deskyop planes
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> prodigy I would be happy to discuss it with you in pm..
[21:34] <newk> mdemocritus: kopete supports video call????
[21:34] <prodigy> i am thinking of opening a IT and IS comapny that will make applications for linux OS
[21:34] <DrFrasierCrane> joaopinto, thanks
[21:34] <prodigy> Jack_Sparrow: pm me
[21:34] <joaopinto> J-_, but I see people recomming parcelitte instead of glipper...
[21:34] <joaopinto> prodigy, good luck
[21:34] <mDemocritus> newk: at least for yahoo.... kindof
[21:34] <J-_> joaopinto: parellite?
[21:34] <prodigy> thank you
[21:34] <joaopinto> hire me :P
[21:34] <Shandel[[WHOA]]> irc.icq.com
[21:35] <joaopinto> J-_, parcelitte
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[21:35] <mDemocritus> newk: it works, but i've seen issues with it
[21:35] <J-_> !info parcelitte
[21:35] <joaopinto> erm, wait, forgot the name
[21:35] <navetz_> hey can someone help me with dualscreening with xrandr, I have a 22" widescreen "1680 * 1050" and my laptop which is "1200*800", is there a way to set them up to both work at the same time?
[21:35] <endafy> hey I am switching over to linux and all and am looking for an app that does the same thing photostory does
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !find parcelite
[21:35] <endafy> my friend is letting me use his computer
[21:35] <debian> How do I run this liveusb thing?
[21:35] <mDemocritus> endafy: photostory?
[21:36] <joaopinto> forget it, parcelitte is on getdeb
[21:36] <fyrestrtr> endafy: and photostory does ..... ???
[21:36] <joaopinto> not on the official repos yet
[21:36] <J-_> joaopinto: is it a applet, or program?
[21:36] <endafy> windows xp program that can make slideshows and do other cool stuff
[21:36] <ed-deb> Will cp make duplicates of files in the source when there is one of the same name in the target?
[21:36]  * J-_ downloads from getdeb.
[21:36] <vixenfinder> Does the WorkSpace Switcher Preferences produce more desktops because I've change it to 2 high and 4 Wide and Nothing's changed
[21:36] <joaopinto> J-_, http://www.getdeb.net/app/Parcellite, it does provide a binary to be launched
[21:36] <fyrestrtr> ed-deb: it will never duplicate in the *source*
[21:37] <mumhuh> oh btw does the alternate cd load the drivers necessary to install directly to a usb flash drive?
[21:37] <joaopinto> but it will just create an icon bind to the notification area, applet alike
[21:37] <J-_> damn it, it's only for 32bit :(
[21:37] <fyrestrtr> vixenfinder: you need to right click on the bottom right, and select the number of screens you see.
[21:37] <mirak> grub detects a bad root drive number, how do I fix that ?
[21:37] <mirak> I installed with a usb pen, and since I removed it it's not ok
[21:37] <J-_> I wonder if it works for 64bit
[21:37] <m_newton> How do i install a new font?????
[21:37] <vixenfinder> fyrestrtr: Did that and there's only 2 when I clicked Pref. and changed the values nothing happend.
[21:38] <joaopinto> mumhuh, installing a bootable usb flash drive is not a regular install, please search on the wiki, it requires some specific (custom) install process
[21:38] <fyrestrtr> vixenfinder: change columns to 4 and rows to 1
[21:38] <gummi_> my friend has a problem. when he tries to install ubuntu 8.04 he cannot find the hd. so he cannot mount it to install ubuntu on it
[21:38] <ed-deb> fyrestrtr; damned ambiguous language :P /me rephrases
[21:38] <joaopinto> J-_, it does, I have it installed
[21:38] <J-_> joaopinto: Nice. =)
[21:38] <fyrestrtr> gummi_: what kind of computer is he using?
[21:38] <vixenfinder> fyrestrtr: I did that and the areas are still the same
[21:39] <m_newton> gummi_ did the alternate install work
[21:39] <vixenfinder> only 2
[21:39] <m_newton> How do i install a new font?????
[21:39] <joaopinto> m_newton, search for "ttf" on the package manager
[21:39] <ed-deb> Will cp make duplicates of $(files in the SOURCE parameter) when there is a file of the same name in the target?
[21:39] <endafy> I need windows live messenger (others dont cut it like pidgen) I might be missing a better one, I need something like photostory, I need something like photoshop and he let me on his computer to ask
[21:40] <gummi_> endafy : aMSN
[21:40] <waffe> endafy: for photoshop replacement zou can use gimp
[21:40] <manoff> can i use emacs or some other editor to write documents using asian languages like thai or chinese. i dont have X
[21:40] <gummi_> fyrestrtr: he's using amd computer
[21:40] <manoff> if i can, how
[21:41] <vixenfinder> fyrestrtr: I tried to change to 4 colums and 1 row and nothing's changed for my desktops. Is there somthing I'm missing and/or supposed to have?
[21:41] <endafy> I do a lot of photography work and all
[21:41] <joaopinto> ed-deb, IIRC it does replace files with the same name
[21:42] <fyrestrtr> vixenfinder: don't know -- that's what I did.
[21:42] <J-_> joaopinto: Thanks for the recommendation. :D
[21:42] <vixenfinder> fyrestrtr: Ah well thnx
[21:42] <Bagualas> how do I configure a PS2 mouse? I was using and USB mouse before
[21:43] <AlexRADL> I need some help.  When going into terminal and typing ipod-touch-mount I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16967/
[21:43] <ed-deb> joapinto: thanks
[21:43] <Brandenatwork> yofel: Hey, well i got some of my space back, it says 15.3 gigs available, i should have about 54 gigs available.  No idea what happened
[21:43] <endafy> awesome amsn rocks
[21:44] <endafy> ty
[21:44] <waffe> hey guys, how can i be sure that i am running the latest ati drivers
[21:44] <waffe> fglrxinfo doesnt give me anything useful
[21:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Brandenatwork HAve you been deleting things as root user?
[21:44] <Da91> whats a good C++ compiler?
[21:44] <endafy> and after looking at the Gimp i think Linux will be pretty easy to pick up for me
[21:45] <Brandenatwork> Jack_Sparrow: no sir, just as user
[21:45] <ed-deb> if I were to chmod ugo-rwx <dir>/* before copying files to it and repeat till no files got added each time, would I copy all files from the sources and replace none?
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> just checking
[21:45] <Da91> whats a good C++ compiler in ubuntu?
[21:45] <ompaul> !latest | waffe
[21:45] <Da91> whats a good C++ compiler in ubuntu?
[21:45] <yofel> Da91, try g++, it works fine for me
[21:45] <Da91> thanks mam
[21:45] <Da91> man**
[21:45] <PentarexBG> what means to set dlls to natives ?
[21:46] <evaldo> rereeerer
[21:46] <evaldo> rer
[21:46] <timebomb> I am trying to put ubuntu on my HP Tablet PC. I lack an Opticle Drive. Need help figuring how to get it on there with out it. Any help?
[21:46] <evaldo> er
[21:46] <waffe> ubottu: i trying the magic combo of compwiz, google earth and tux racer
[21:46] <fyrestrtr> Da91: g++, or the Intel compiler, which is optimized (obviously) for Intel CPUs.
[21:46] <waffe> LOL
[21:46] <evaldo> asdadasdasdasdadasdas
[21:46] <evaldo> sdas
[21:46] <evaldo> das
[21:46] <evaldo> dsad
[21:46] <evaldo> as
[21:46] <evaldo> d
[21:46] <FloodBot3> evaldo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <PentarexBG> what means to set dlls to natives ?
[21:46] <fyrestrtr> timebomb: check the wiki for alternate install methods (including USB stick)
[21:46] <Chousuke> PentarexBG: wine?
[21:46] <magnetron> PentarexBG: it's a setting in winecfg
[21:46] <Da91> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16970/
[21:47] <Brandenatwork> Jack_Sparrow: yeah I searched for the deleted files, and the search came up empty, so.... I am at a loss myself.  my home is a little over 90 gig, and only 54 gig is used, and nautilus and diskanalyzer says i only have about 15 gigs free.  Just doesnt add up.  Well off to check fdsk
[21:47] <PentarexBG> Chousuke: yes
[21:47] <Chousuke> PentarexBG: it means Wine will use real windows DLLs instead of wine's implementation
[21:47] <PentarexBG> magnetron: yes
[21:47] <magnetron> PentarexBG: you probably want to ask in #winehq for a better answer
[21:47] <AlexRADL> Sorry for the double post, but I need some help.  When going to terminal and type ipod-touch-mount I get the following error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16967/
[21:47] <jip> bonsoir
[21:47] <PentarexBG> magnetron: 10nx
[21:47] <PentarexBG> Chousuke: 10nx
[21:47] <ompaul> !fr | jip
[21:47] <waffe> !latest
[21:47] <waffe> right
[21:47] <Chousuke> PentarexBG: won't always work, but sometimes you can make an app work by using a native windows DLL instead of wine's implementation
[21:47] <Fujisan> !VISTA
[21:48] <waffe> !ati
[21:48] <m_newton> How do i install a new font that is for windows??
[21:48] <set_> salut tout le monde
[21:48] <ompaul> !font | m_newton
[21:48] <ompaul> !fr | set_
[21:48] <mumhuh> joaopinto thanks but the wiki only seems to mention a full blown install from the livecd and how to get the lvecd to run from usb
[21:49] <manoff> excuse me but did anyone answer my question?
[21:49] <manoff> i was away
[21:49] <Da91> sudo apt-get install g++ http://paste.ubuntu.com/16970/
[21:49] <yofel> Da91, do you have aptitude, synaptic or something else open?
[21:49] <Da91> yes
[21:49] <Da91> XD
[21:49] <manoff> no?
[21:49] <manoff> how rude!
[21:49] <yofel> well...
[21:49] <Da91> add/remove, still has 39 min
[21:49] <ompaul> !attitude | manoff
[21:50] <yofel> then you'll have to wait...
[21:50] <m_newton> manoff, what was your question
[21:50] <Chousuke> Da91: you need to close the other apps installing stuff before you can use the command line tools
[21:50] <manoff> can i use emacs or some other editor to write documents using asian languages like thai or chinese. i dont have X
[21:50] <fyrestrtr> how do you check what version of a program will be installed? apt-policy or something....
[21:50] <Chousuke> manoff: hmmh.
[21:50] <m_newton> manoff, what was your question
[21:50] <manoff> m_newton: that
[21:50] <fyrestrtr> manoff: you can if your term supports the character set and your chosen editor has support for it.
[21:51] <Chousuke> manoff: I think it might be possible, but certainly not easy to pull off.
[21:51] <manoff> ompaul: ok excuse me
[21:51] <AlexRADL> I need some help...
[21:51] <erUSUL> fyrestrtr: apt-cache policy
[21:51] <jedimind_> here's a noobie question, how do i manage my 'bookmarks'
[21:51] <Chousuke> manoff: I don't know of any methods to input chinese in the terminal
[21:51] <manoff> fyrestrtr: and how can i find out my term caps?
[21:51] <manoff> Chousuke: okay
[21:52] <JonathanElli1> Hi. Can someone tell me how to add repositories on the command line?
[21:52] <cens0red> good moaning.
[21:52] <AlexRADL> I'm having some trouble mounting my iPod touch.  Can someone assist me?
[21:53] <m_newton> how do i get the SAY command to work??? Anyo ne know if there is a way to use TTS on ubuntu???
[21:53] <manoff> JonathanElli1: you need edit the repos list
[21:53] <Amiga68> JonathanEllil: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:53] <Bagualas> how devices are configured now? mouse, keyboard? NEED TO INSTALL A F#@ PS2 MOUSE :(
[21:53] <Da91> can i resume downloading my program if i close it and install g++?
[21:53] <JonathanElli1> Isnt there a command to add a line directly?
[21:53] <Amiga68> JonathanEllii: ofcourse if you have a nano editor
[21:53] <Chousuke> Da91: you should be able to
[21:54] <Chousuke> Da91: however, do *not* close it if it's already installing something
[21:54] <Da91> so if i cancle it i wont lose all the stuff ive been installing
[21:54] <Da91> well downloading**
[21:54] <yofel> Da91, no you won't
[21:54] <Chousuke> Da91: interrupting downloads is fine, but if it has already installed something, then don't touch it.
[21:54] <Da91> >.< ill install it fist and get open arena later
[21:54] <Chousuke> yofel: aptitude can resume downloads at least.
[21:55] <AlexRADL> I'm having some trouble mounting my iPod touch.  Can someone assist me?
[21:55] <yofel> Chousuke, as I know synaptic can as well
[21:55] <Amiga68> JonathanEllil: sudo echo "string_to_add" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
[21:56] <Chousuke> Amiga68: that won't actually work.
[21:56] <joaopinto> synaptice does not resume current the current download, but previous downloaded files are stored on the apt cache
[21:56] <Chousuke> (redirection doesn't work with sudo)
[21:56] <AlexRADL> Anyone? :-/
[21:56] <Chousuke> you need to do sudo sh -c"echo 'whatever' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:56] <lberg> are the update mirrors running slow right now?
[21:57] <Guiri> HI everyone. How can I lock a user into his home directory??
[21:57] <rich_freecomm> I know *sudo is talked about alot...but su works fine as well...as long as you keep it to the main task
[21:57] <Guiri> !jail
[21:57] <Guiri> !chroot
[21:57] <joaopinto> Guiri, you would need to use schroot, but that is very complex to setup
[21:57] <Amiga68> Chousuke: ofcourse :-) sudo su ,and then...
[21:58] <Guiri> !schroot
[21:58] <Chousuke> Amiga68: sudo -s :)
[21:58] <joaopinto> ops, i mean chroot
[21:58] <m_newton> Noooooo
[21:58] <rich_freecomm> !'common sense'
[21:58] <joaopinto> debootstrapchroot is another matter
[21:58] <AlexRADL> I apologize for repeatedly asking this, but I need some help :-/.  I'm having trouble mounting my iPod touch.  I get the following error when typing ipod-touch-mount:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16967/
[21:58] <rich_freecomm> sorry...couldn't help it
[21:59] <joaopinto> AlexCONRAD, rm /home/alex/.ssh/known_hosts
[21:59] <Chousuke> uh
[21:59] <m_newton> Proxy help please! (how do i setup my own proxy serer that does not interfear with my web server
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !ipod
[21:59] <Amiga68> Chousuke: right, but "sudo su" working for me too :-)
[21:59] <alexander> is there a kxgenerator for ubuntu?
[21:59] <Chousuke> why is ipod-touch-mount trying to connect somewhere using ssh?
[21:59] <alexander> and not just kubuntu
[21:59] <AlexRADL> Joaopinto: Was that directed towards me?
[22:00] <joaopinto> AlexCONRAD, was you posting the untrusted ssh host, right ?
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Amiga68 sudo su isnt the best way to do that
[22:00] <set_> bonsoir a tous ... existe t il un forum francais ubuntu ?? desolé .. mon anglais est pathetique
[22:00] <AlexRADL> I'm AlexRADL, but yeah.
[22:00] <joaopinto> !fr | set_
[22:00] <AlexRADL> It was me
[22:01] <methecooldude> mon anglais est pathetique - I'm guessing that's "My english is pathetic".
[22:01] <joaopinto> lol
[22:01] <AlexRADL> Joaopinto: I don't have an .ssh folder in /home/alex :/
[22:02] <deeperror> AlexRADL, are you typing ls -Al
[22:02] <Amiga68> Jack_Sparrow: mayby  not, but is still working ;-)
[22:02] <unavailable> ok so how do i enable my hi def audio out multi port?
[22:02] <Chousuke> I'm more concerned about ipod-touch-mount using ssh at all
[22:02] <lberg> hey guys, for reasons to hard to explain, I installed WinXP OVER my previous ubuntu installation. Before that, my wireless dongle with the rt73 chipset was working fine. However, after that, I've been getting slow speeds of 30kb/s, where it used to be 300 kb/s, and my connection bitrate is only 5mb/s, where it used to be 54. DOes anyone have any ideas for me? My internet is now terribly slow. I've tried both the 64bit and 32bit vers
[22:02] <Chousuke> why does it use ssh?
[22:02] <dobblego> !flash
[22:02] <Freddy2> hi
[22:02] <AlexRADL> Deeperror: I was told to type this:  rm /home/alex/.ssh/known_hosts
[22:02] <joaopinto> AlexCONRAD, your pastebin states otherwise, use CTRL-H to show hidden dirs, .ssh is an hidden dir
[22:02] <Hooplah> I need help getting wireless working. Ever since I upgraded to hardy heron, internet doesn't work.
[22:02] <Da91> ok, i have G++ and my buddy said to get C++ with OpenGL, Where do i get opengl?
[22:02] <AlexRADL> I just followed the directions on the ubuntu site, chousuke
[22:03] <unavailable> in windows i can switch around my in out on soundcard..  so far im only limited to regular out with ubuntu
[22:03] <Hooplah> And when I go to the hardware driver manager, it says the driver is in use
[22:03] <Freddy2> can i install 32-bit dev packages in a 64 bit system? (hardy)
[22:03] <VB-DotNet> hi my friends
[22:03] <joaopinto> Da91, apt-cache search opengl dev
[22:03] <Hooplah> but i cant uninstall it either
[22:03] <NewfieLinux> I have a live CD of hardy heron ubuntu
[22:03] <Hooplah> any help?
[22:03] <NewfieLinux> when I try it
[22:03] <AlexRADL> Joaopinto: Oh, ok.
[22:03] <NewfieLinux> Its pretty slow
[22:03] <deeperror> lberg, update drivers?
[22:03] <NewfieLinux> but I cant get wireless to work
[22:03] <mDemocritus> lberg: try reinstalling the drivers... ubuntu won't break your wireless card
[22:03] <joaopinto> Freddy2, no, you can only install the 32 libs
[22:03] <iRelinquish> whats the easiest way to get RC1 of firefox?
[22:03] <NewfieLinux> it says there are drivers to install
[22:03] <lain> test
[22:03] <NewfieLinux> but while installing the driver
[22:03] <Freddy2> joaopinto: ok, thx
[22:03] <NewfieLinux> I get an error
[22:03] <NewfieLinux> and then it finishes the driver download
[22:04] <lberg> deeperror and mDemocritus: Right now, my Fresh 64-bit install is halfway into an update.
[22:04] <AaronMT> q
[22:04] <Da91> thanks man, also where is the g++ compiler located, it not under programming in the applications part of the tool bar
[22:04] <joaopinto> Freddy2, well, if you need to develop 32 bits apps/packages, you can use a 32bits chroot
[22:04] <NewfieLinux> but then it says system update
[22:04] <NewfieLinux> but doesnt progress
[22:04] <joaopinto> Da91, sudo apt-get install build-essentialk
[22:04] <lberg> ATM 30 minutes remaining.
[22:04] <joaopinto> Da91, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:04] <mDemocritus> lberg: also check for interference... 2.4ghz cordless phones are the normal culprit
[22:04] <microwaver> qfsljl
[22:04] <joaopinto> g++ is a command line app, its a compiler, not an IDE
[22:04] <alexander> what GUI tool is the best one for editing graphic card, resoution, etc?
[22:04] <unavailable> anyone?  looking for ac97 hidef realtek drivers for linux that support changing around my in/out on embedded soundcard
[22:04] <Hooplah> Okay, let me put this all together: Ever since I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04, wireless has stopped working. I'm using the broadcom B43 driver. When I go to hardware driver manager, it says the driver is in use, AND it doesnt uninstall at all. So I cant re-install.
[22:04] <deeperror> mDemocritus, and wii motes haha
[22:05] <joaopinto> alexander, System -> Preferences -> *
[22:05] <VB-DotNet> Thank you for the ubuntu Project, it is a Very Small / Very Easy to use Linux Distribution
[22:05] <VB-DotNet> please:
[22:05] <AlexRADL> joaopinto: Thank you, it worked.  I appreciate the help :)
[22:05] <mirak> how do I set ubuntu to use it in hdmi with my TV ?
[22:05] <lberg> mDemocritus: Well, I do have a wireless phone, but it was there before I installed WinXP, and it wasn't a problem then...
[22:05] <Jack_Sparrow> joaopinto sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`    works too
[22:05] <VB-DotNet> i am a blind user and i am looking for a Screen reader to use with ubuntu
[22:05] <VB-DotNet> please Give me One...
[22:05] <Da91> >.< is there a visual compiler for c++?
[22:05] <joaopinto> Jack_Sparrow, linux-headers for someone just looking for a c++ compiler :) ?
[22:05] <unavailable> SOUND HELP REQUESTED
[22:05] <rich_freecomm> VB-DotNet: Orca
[22:06] <mDemocritus> lberg: i do wireless T/S for a living man... listen to me when i tell you that interference doesn't make sense sometimes
[22:06] <Hooplah> Anyone? ...
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> joaopinto I almost always recommend both.. when someone ask fro build essential
[22:06] <alexander> joaopinto: system preferenses only get me to change resolution. i want to be able to edit driver etc too...
[22:06] <lberg> mDemocritus: OK.... I'll go unplug it and see if that helps.
[22:06] <mDemocritus> lberg: i'm just saying... try interference t/s if all else fails... change channel and ssid, etx
[22:06] <kkathman> VB-DotNet,  you can also try lsr
[22:06] <mDemocritus> etc*
[22:06] <joaopinto> Jack_Sparrow, not to compile an opengl app ;)
[22:07] <deeperror> lberg, also when moving back to windows the first time the dongle was probably installed correctly, this time windows probably just gave it a generic driver and it works but not fully
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> joaopinto Fair enough\
[22:07] <unavailable> I NEED REALTEK HD compatible drivers for ub
[22:07] <rich_freecomm> !windows logic
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps | unavailable
[22:07] <mDemocritus> deeperror, lberg: i doubt it... XP didn't have many built-in wireless drivers
[22:08] <Da91> Is there a Visual C++ Compiler for Ubuntu?
[22:08] <lberg> deeperror: idk of I explained my situation good enough...I had ubuntu, installed WinXP, and now I'm back to Ubuntu. After the REinstall of Ubuntu, my internet is slow.
[22:08] <kkathman> VB-DotNet, you can also use screader which is a screen reader using software or hardware speech synthesizer
[22:08] <joaopinto> Da91, erm, no, if you are looking for an IDE, try codeblocks
[22:08] <mDemocritus> lberg: are you using a USB card?
[22:08] <unavailable> well then...  has anyone had any luck configuring the onboard sound card to have multi out ??
[22:08] <lberg> mDemocritus: yes. ASUS wl-167g. rt73 chipset.
[22:09] <mDemocritus> lberg: make sure you're using the back usb ports on the system
[22:09] <unavailable> windows supports it and i am wondering if ubuntu/linux does too
[22:09] <lberg> mDemocritus: yes, I am.
[22:10] <AlexRADL> Ok, I have one more problem.  I get the following error when mounting my iPod touch:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16975/
[22:10] <m_newton> SSH help!! plz, Anyone know how to use a diffrent port besides 22?
[22:10] <AlexRADL> I'm not sure what "nonempty" is
[22:10] <jbroome> ssh host.com -p portnumber m_newton
[22:10] <jbroome> m_newton: also cleverly hidden in man ssh
[22:10] <Steve^> hey guys, is there anything to provide support for DVD menus?
[22:10] <mDemocritus> lberg: are you using encryption? and what router do you have
[22:10] <skoruppa> Hi
[22:11] <AlexCONRAD> hi, which package provides pushd ?
[22:11] <Steve^> I have totem, but it only plays one DVD chapter, which happens to be the one with director's commentary - I never get the main menu
[22:11] <joaopinto> AlexCONRAD, pushd is a bash builtin command
[22:11] <Amiga68> Steve^: try VLC
[22:11] <m_newton> jbroome, port 60000: Connection refused
[22:11] <lberg> mDemocritus: yeah, WEP w/ a 10-digit hex, and the router is a 2WIRE one that came with the SBC DSL. I have tried restarting the router already, which didn't help.
[22:11] <deeperror> m_newton, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[22:11] <AlexCONRAD> joaopinto: ah ...
[22:11] <AlexCONRAD> ok
[22:12] <m_newton> jbroome, I port forwarded correctly, cuz it works on port 22
[22:12] <mDemocritus> m_newton: do you mean how to use a different port for the server, or how to connect with a client to a server on a different port?
[22:12] <Steve^> thanks, I'll try that Amiga68
[22:12] <skoruppa> someone know why ppa can't compile my package -_-" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15021109/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-lpia.moorie_0.1.6~wip1-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - ok, no install-sh but i sources i can find this file... :/
[22:12] <deeperror> m_newton, the server is probably only running on 1 port
[22:12] <m_newton> jbroome, how to use a different port for the server
[22:12] <Amiga68> Steve^: it's in repository : just sudo apt-get vlc
[22:12] <deeperror> m_newton, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[22:12] <Alexradl> I am getting another error when mounting my iPod touch.  It says something about nonempty mount.  Here is the pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16975/
[22:12] <Steve^> Amiga68, vlc-nox ;)
[22:13] <mDemocritus> m_newton: follow deeperror's suggestion, then change your port forward to use the same port
[22:13] <BCM43> Jack_Sparrow: you there?
[22:13] <Steve^> Amiga68, or at least, that's what it recommended.. maybe I want normal vlc?
[22:13] <Steve^> (I just typed "vlc" and it said vlc-nox)
[22:13] <BCM43> !info vlc
[22:13] <Xana> nick RabidWeezle
[22:14] <Amiga68> Steve^: just vlc
[22:14] <Amiga68> Steve^: :-)
[22:14] <addeboy> Hello. Does anyone have idea why, after I installed a manually compiled version of vlc, I can't use the version available from repositories? I tried to uninstall the version I have compiled with "make uninstall" from source folder, and then I reinstalled the version from repositories, but instead of vlc 0.8.6c which is in repo I get the same version compiled by me...
[22:14] <RabidWeezle> How do I set a program to load as soon as gnome starts?
[22:15] <joaopinto> addeboy, are you sure vlc provides a "make uninstall" rule ? Have you checked "which vlc" ?
[22:15] <m_newton> is this fine # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for Port 22 Port 60000
[22:15] <BCM43> RabidWeezle: session manager
[22:15] <cb951303> does anyone knows how to alter the content of an ISO file?
[22:15] <VB-DotNet> kkathman': : please Send to me a private Irc Message
[22:15] <deeperror> m_newton, also after making those changes may need to restart sshd  /etc/init.d/sshd reload maybe?
[22:15] <m_newton> mDemocritus, # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for Port 22 Port 60000
[22:15] <RabidWeezle> The session manager in GDM?
[22:15] <BCM43> RabidWeezle: yes
[22:15] <RabidWeezle> ahh, ty
[22:16] <mDemocritus> m_newton: can you rephrase that?
[22:16] <lberg> BCM43: wait, isn't the session stuff RabidWeezle wants under "System-Preferences-Session?"
[22:16] <joaopinto> You can use ISO master
[22:16] <Alexradl> I need some help.  I'm getting an error saying about the mountpoint not being empty.  Here is the pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16975/
[22:16] <addeboy> joaopinto, I read on vlc wiki that this is the way to get rid of a version you compiled earlier, and it seems the script remove all the files installed previously. Buty what I don't get it is why I can't install again the version from repo... (i have ubuntu 7.10)
[22:16] <m_newton> deeperror, restart sshd  /etc/init.d/sshd reload?
[22:17] <joaopinto> addeboy, you can, you are doing some mistake, first check from which path is vlc being ran, which vlc
[22:17] <deeperror> m_newton, after making changes to sshd_conf you will need to restart sshd possibly by typing   `/etc/init.d/sshd reload`
[22:17] <mDemocritus> m_newton: that would be sudo /etc/init.d/sshd reload
[22:17] <ledmushroom>  I am looking for a easy web page maker
[22:17] <deeperror> sudo whoops
[22:17] <joaopinto> ledmushroom, bluefish, quanta, etc :P
[22:17] <mDemocritus> deeperror: heh used to other distros huh?
[22:17] <deeperror> centos all day
[22:17] <GleepGlop> ledmushroom: wysiwyg?
[22:18] <methecooldude> deeperror: Correction, it's sudo /etc/init.d/ssh reload (for some reason theres no d... or there wasn't for me).
[22:18] <deeperror> ubuntu on my laptop
[22:18] <mDemocritus> deeperror: ah... i just installed debian in vmware and had to break the sudo habit :D
[22:18] <deeperror> yea i'm the other way around
[22:18] <mDemocritus> m_newton: methecooldude is right
[22:18] <RabidWeezle> Alright, let's try this again, How can I get an application, like gkrellm to load as soon as I login to the computer and load gnome
[22:19] <Shubbar> running Azureus slows my system
[22:19] <Alexradl> I apologize for repeatedly asking this, but I'm having trouble mounting my iPod touch.  I get an error saying the mountpoint is not empty.  Here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16975/
[22:19] <GleepGlop> Shubbar: yeah Java based apps tend to do just that
[22:19] <fyrestrtr> RabidWeezle: System > Preferences > Session > Add
[22:19] <mDemocritus> RabidWeezle: it's in the sessions configuration.... somewhere in system prefs i thinkl
[22:19] <methecooldude> RabidWeezle: Good question and one that I would love to know myself.
[22:19] <lberg> RabidWeezle: Under Gnome, go to System-Preferences-Session.
[22:19] <RabidWeezle> thanks
[22:19] <lberg> then, you'll have to type in the command that you want after clicking "add".
[22:19] <methecooldude> Wow, a lotta stuff starts on start up.
[22:20] <fyrestrtr> Alexradl: what is the directory you are trying to mount TO
[22:20] <Shiba> is there a way to enable the Universe repo on Ubuntu 6.10 server?
[22:20] <RabidWeezle> there we are, thanks
[22:20] <deeperror> headed home
[22:20] <RabidWeezle> that was pretty painless
[22:20] <neofax> user01: Did you fix compiz on your system?
[22:20] <Shubbar> GleepGlop: any way to reduce that? Or should i switch to another bittorrent client?
 thanks!
[22:20] <Shiba> I tried uncommenting it from sources.list but the software I need doesn't become available
[22:20] <mDemocritus> m_newton: good job it works
[22:20] <lberg> mDemocritus: I just unplugged my wireless phone, which BTW is only 900 mhz, and it didn't seem to help.
[22:20] <Alexradl> Fyrestrt: In the tutorial it told me to mount to /media/ipod.  Is that not right?
[22:20] <Alexradl> In the tut on ubuntu
[22:20] <mDemocritus> lberg: eh the only ones that matter are 2.4
[22:21] <methecooldude> Shiba: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe repos
[22:21] <GleepGlop> Shubbar: I personally use bitcollider, but you may not
[22:21] <m_newton> deeperror, mDemocritus Thanks a lot you guys!! :) cheers!
[22:21] <fyrestrtr> Shiba: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:21] <GleepGlop> Shubbar: I personally use bitcollider, but you may not like it
[22:21] <Shiba> methecooldude: I did...
[22:21] <lberg> ok....
[22:21] <neofax> Anyone using HD-DVD in ubuntu?
[22:21] <mDemocritus> lberg: i dunno if you answered this... do you run encryption
[22:21] <miky__> hello
[22:21] <lberg> mDemocritus: yeah. WEP.
[22:21] <mDemocritus> m_newton: np
[22:21] <methecooldude> Shiba: Then sudo apt-get update
[22:21] <mDemocritus> lberg: change the wep key...
[22:21] <m_newton> mDemocritus, just one more question, can i run this on port 443?
[22:21] <joaopinto> fyrestrtr, for 6.10 you will need to use old.releases.ubuntu.com on the server name
[22:21] <Shiba> methecooldude: ah, lemme try taht
[22:21] <addeboy> joaopinto, after I removed the version compiled by me and that one installed from repo, when I run vlc in terminal it says bash: /usr/bin/vlc: No such file or directory, so I assume it's completely removed. But when I add the version from repo again, it synaptic is installing the version compiled by me.. not the one that it should install (0.8.6.c)
[22:21] <miky__> anyone can give me some help about hibernation ?
[22:22] <methecooldude> Shiba: Apt needs to get the new packages from the newly opened repos, update allows it to do that.
[22:22] <lberg> mDemocritus: OK. I'll try that, but only after Ubuntu finishes the system upgrade. I'd like to see if an upgrade might update the firmware/driver for my card....
[22:22] <mDemocritus> m_newton: yes, but i wouldn't... you want to use 22, or a port higher than 1024
[22:22] <joaopinto> addeboy, synaptic does not install packages out of the repositories, unless you have created a repository yourself
[22:22] <mDemocritus> lberg: probably...
[22:22] <Alexradl> yrestrt: In the tutorial on ubuntu.com it told me to mount to /media/ipod.  Is that not right?
[22:22] <Alexradl> Fyrestrt*
[22:22] <Shiba> methecooldude: no go: http://rafb.net/p/psByVc41.html
[22:22] <joaopinto> so, it can't be installing the version you have compiled
[22:22] <mDemocritus> m_newton: the ports from 0-1024 are reservered
[22:22] <m_newton> mDemocritus, that is the only port open in my school :(
[22:22] <Shiba> methecooldude: after apt-get update it did download the new indices
[22:23] <miky__> anyone can give me some help about system suspend ?
[22:23] <Shiba> methecooldude: but the package that should be there isn't available
[22:23] <m_newton> mDemocritus, only SSL sadly
[22:23] <mDemocritus> m_newton: what are you trying to do?
[22:23] <Shiba> libpam_ldap libmss_ldap
[22:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> hi
[22:23] <GleepGlop> Shubbar: sorry, not bitcollider, BITTORNADO
[22:23] <m_newton> mDemocritus, IRC from school :) on last day (tommarow)
[22:23] <joaopinto> Shiba, you must replace archive.ubuntu.com with old.releases.ubuntu.com
[22:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> i went back to 7.10
[22:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> :)
[22:23] <m_newton> mDemocritus, just hope they dont blok it
[22:24] <addeboy> joaopinto, yes, I think that too.. Also I deleted synaptic cache and it downloaded the packages again, but still same issue. And I don't think I created a repository without knowing that..
[22:24] <Shiba> joaopinto: oh is that whats going on?  lemme try that
[22:24] <mDemocritus> m_newton: they probably won't block outbound port 80....
[22:24] <methecooldude> Shiba: That's becasue it's libpam-ldap not _ldap
[22:24] <clever> !enter
[22:24] <clever> !Upgrade
[22:24] <clever> .
[22:24] <Shubbar> GleepGlop: thanks, I will try that and see. Does it have a scheduler?
[22:25] <joaopinto> Ademan, first, if you have installed the package correctly, there must be an /usr/bin/vlc, that is the default install path
[22:25] <joaopinto> if there is no /usr/bin/vlc, the package was not installed
[22:25] <lberg> mDemocritus, deeperror: thanks for the help guys, I'm going to step away from my computer for a while....hopefully this upgrade will fix something....
[22:25] <mDemocritus> lberg: best of luck
[22:25] <UBUNTUJAY123> 8.04 is way messed up
[22:25] <joaopinto> Shiba, ops, i am a bit lost, maybe you are the wrong target for my msg, are you the 6.10 repositories guy :P ?
[22:25] <m_newton> mDemocritus, ya, but wont a lot of traffic go through that?? so slower connection
[22:25] <UBUNTUJAY123> iam going to wait until the next one comes put to upgrade agin
[22:26] <Ademan> joaopinto: i assume that wasn't acutally for me
[22:26] <Shubbar> either new and messed up, or old and stable
[22:26] <Shiba> yeah, I need 6.10 repos : apt-get install libpam-ldap libnss-ldap autofs-ldap ldap-utils nscd
[22:26] <mDemocritus> m_newton: nah... port numbers have nothing to do with IP flow controil
[22:26] <Shiba> that fails
[22:26] <m_newton> UBUNTUJAY123, YO next one ibex
[22:26] <joaopinto> Shiba, did you apt-get update after doing the change ?
[22:26] <Shiba> yes
[22:27] <addeboy> joaopinto, after I install the version from repo, I have again an executable at /usr/bin/vlc, alos one at /usr/bin/wxvlc and svlc, but they are the wrong version.
[22:27] <m_newton> mDemocritus, oh, ok than port 80 it is, wait... i am running my own webserevr. will it interfear with that?
[22:27] <mDemocritus> m_newton: they probably just have the computers proxied, and only let http and https (80 and 443) out
[22:27] <mDemocritus> m_newton: ... yes
[22:27] <joaopinto> addeboy, dpkg -S /usr/bin/vlc
[22:27] <m_newton> mDemocritus, yes...? It will interfear with my webserver?
[22:28] <m_newton> mDemocritus, Should i host on another port
[22:28] <mDemocritus> m_newton: yes... you can normally only run one service on a port
[22:28] <methecooldude> I just a question... my college blockes anything running on ports 0-1024, anything above that can run, is it a safe bet to say they are running a linux server somewhere in the network?
[22:28] <mDemocritus> methecooldude: not necessarily
[22:28] <mDemocritus> methecooldude:  what makes you think that?
[22:28] <addeboy> joaopinto, I get vlc-nox: /usr/bin/vlc
[22:28] <musikgoat> methecooldude: its a safe bet that a linux server is somewhere in your schools network
[22:29] <joaopinto> methecooldude, no, there are plenty of "windows" reasons to block those also
[22:29] <m_newton> methecooldude you can find out, go to their site and enter some random text after url bar, it will say page not found and the os
[22:29] <marko__> what's the command to reconfigure the x server in the terminal ?
[22:29] <mDemocritus> hah shut up musikgoat :D.... methecooldude, he's right of course, but only because of probability
[22:29] <musikgoat> :-)
[22:29] <m_newton> methecooldude, or you can do a good old whois search
[22:29] <Xpistos> Can Anyone help me with gPodder. Whenever I try and open it I get the window flash and then disappear. It will also open and then if I click on anything the app goes dark and then closes. I am using hardy and this has just started happening yesterday. Can anyone help me with this?
[22:29] <joaopinto> addeboy, dpkg -l vlc | grep ^ii
[22:29] <ledmushroom> ok here is something, How would I remove something from t6he wine programs list after i uninstall it from wine ? (its still there in the menu listing I would like to get rid of it?
 do u use VLC??
[22:30] <methecooldude> m_newton: how can I tell that the webserver is not Windows but there might be another around, like for backup ect.
[22:30] <joaopinto> Xpistos, are you using the version from hardy's repository ?
[22:30] <Y-Town> I am getting ready to reload 8.04 on a new drive in my wifes laptop.  New drive is 200 gig.  Any opinions on partitions or just leave it alone?
[22:30] <mDemocritus> m_newton: nope... amarok and kaffeine
  no idea.. sry
[22:30] <addeboy> joaopinto, now I get ii  vlc            0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 multimedia player and streamer
[22:30] <mDemocritus> m_newton: kubuntu FTW :D
[22:30] <Steve^> VLC can't stream my DVD properly - is there anyway to copy it off the disk to my HDD?
[22:31]  * methecooldude notes that Konqueror is not very helpful.
[22:31] <mDemocritus> methecooldude: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[22:31] <methecooldude> mDemocritus: Nothing, I'm just wondering that's all.
[22:31] <manoff> N/quit
[22:31] <joaopinto> addeboy, you have a vlc binary provided  by an ubuntu package, that package version is the correct version for your release, everything looks fine
[22:31] <Shiba> joaopinto: I changed the sources.list to look like this: http://rafb.net/p/DSlD7o28.html then ran apt-get update
[22:32] <Shiba> joaopinto: still unable to install libpam-ldap
 oh, cool thing on VLC, my school has macs and have blocked out most sites, youtube included, so i got VLC, you dont have to install it yu see, and you can recieve free radio brodcasts there, sure you dont have a choice to what you are listening but hay
[22:32] <joaopinto> Shiba, what error do you get ?
[22:33] <Y-Town> I am getting ready to reload 8.04 on a new drive in my wifes laptop.  New drive is 200 gig.  Any opinions on partitions or just leave it alone?
[22:33] <m_newton> mDemocritus, proxys are blocked
[22:33] <addeboy> joaopinto, that's why I am in trouble, because synaptic and the commands you told e to run shows that the correct version is installed, but when I run it, I get another version instead
[22:33] <idigthought> is there a way to uninstall a package without removing the packages that depend on it?
[22:33] <tyler>  /home/tyler/Desktop/How to GUILD WARS/938739_20070710_screen008.jpg
[22:33] <tyler> oopsd
[22:33] <Shiba> joaopinto: commandline is this: apt-get install libpam-ldap libnss-ldap autofs-ldap ldap-utils nscd
[22:33] <joaopinto> erm, Shiba you dont have universe enabled, you only have universe -updates
[22:33] <UBUNTUJAY123> m_newton use an online website proxy
[22:33] <mDemocritus> m_newton: aha... if you're doing all that ssh nonsense just for irc... just use mibbit.com
[22:33] <Shiba> E: Couldn't find package libpam-ldap
[22:33] <joaopinto> edgy-updates is not edgy..
[22:33] <methecooldude> m_newton: http://delta.cluenet.org/proxy
[22:33] <methecooldude> UK based proxy run on my own server.
[22:34] <Hooplah> I need help. I'm trying to manually install the broadcom driver for my wireless using an online guide, but the last step isnt working, at all.
[22:34] <revilodraw> when i hover my mouse over an mp3 file it plays in exaile, and i want to turn this off.
[22:34] <mDemocritus> m_newton: as a rule, don't use a proxy to do anything remotely private... fyi
[22:34] <ubuntu> sera. ce un komando x scaricare temi x ubuntu?
[22:34] <Shiba> joaopinto: added 'universe' to the end of the first two lines, apt-get update, still no joy
[22:34] <Hooplah> The command: ~/broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>/kmod$ sudo ../../b43-fwcutter-011/b43-fwcutter -w “$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR” wl_apsta.o
[22:34] <joaopinto> addeboy, which vlc, show me the output
[22:34] <SaintPaulTom> I just created a new ext3 partition, but I can't seem to mount in with write access. How do I accomplish this? (Relevant line from /etc/fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16984/)
[22:34] <consquigulator1> Apparently, I've got a bad superblock on a raid 1 array, it's reiserfs.  I'm afraid to use reiserfsck --rebuild-sb on it, /var/log/syslog shows /dev/md0 (the array) stopped.  Any idea if I'll destroy the array by running it?
[22:35] <mDemocritus> SaintPaulTom: are you logged in as root?
[22:35] <Hooplah> The command: ~/broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>/kmod$ sudo ../../b43-fwcutter-011/b43-fwcutter -w “$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR” wl_apsta.o  gives the output of: This file is recognised as:
[22:35] <Hooplah>   ID         :  FW11
[22:35] <Hooplah>   filename   :  wl_apsta.o
[22:35] <Hooplah>   version    :  351.126
[22:35] <Hooplah>   MD5        :  9207bc565c2fc9fa1591f6c7911d3fc0
[22:35] <FloodBot3> Hooplah: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <Shiba> consquigulator1: if you're using MD RAID in RAID1 the disks should be bitwise identical
[22:35] <Shiba> consquigulator1: you can run reiserfsck on one of the underlying block devices
[22:35] <Xpistos> joaopinto: I used the one in add/remove programs so yes?
[22:36] <m_newton> UBUNTUJAY123, They use some stupid filter that blocks it all. BAsturds i say, stoping freedom of expression! :( Even for kids like me that get A's man! They even went as far as blocking my website :(! Sayig i had 'uncontroled fourme posts" !!!  I have a shout out box! no fourms.... da*n basturds
[22:36] <SaintPaulTom> mDemocritus: no, as a normal user
[22:36] <mDemocritus> SaintPaulTom: but since you created the filesystem as root with sudo, your user doesn't have permission to it
[22:36] <joaopinto> Xpistos, I am using a newer version from getdeb, without any problems, you should try it, if it still crashes, then you should report to the author, because it maybe a bug that is triggered by a feed that you have subscribed
[22:36] <greg_> where is the rest of xorg.conf?
[22:37] <Shiba> joaopinto: are you sure I need to use old.releases as opposed to us.archive?
[22:37] <Xpistos> joaopinto: It was working fine up until yesterday. I tried to uninstall and reinstall but getting same. Maybe it is a config file, but I can find it
[22:37] <UBUNTUJAY123> m_ i dont know what u can do man
[22:37] <mDemocritus> SaintPaulTom: there's a mount option... i think it's 'user', or you can mount it, then chown youruser:youruser /path/to/mountpoint
[22:37] <at0m> Does anyone know how to get the desklet for weather to work again?
[22:37] <at0m> for some reason it wont work
[22:38] <consquigulator1> Shiba: If I run sudo mdadm --examine on both block devices, it says they're okay.  Should I run reiserfsck --rebuild-sb on one of the block devices and try to remount?
[22:38] <biozit> hi all
[22:38] <Shiba> joaopinto: this is ubuntu server, not desktop; would that make a difference?
[22:38] <joaopinto> Shubbar, as far as I know very old releases are no longer available on archive, just on old.releases, but now that you have your list fixed you could try to switch
[22:38] <mDemocritus> at0m: did you set it up? right click, properties
[22:38] <m_newton> http://www.lightspeedsystems.com/Default.aspx
[22:38] <joaopinto> Shiba, no it does not, they all share the same repositories
[22:38] <at0m> Ya i did, but it wont pull the information off the internet
[22:38] <Shiba> consquigulator1: the idea here is that if you run reiserfsck on one of hte underlying devices and it fubars the filesystem, you have another for backup
[22:38]  * methecooldude loves compiz!
[22:38] <addeboy> joaopinto, the version is VLC media player 0.9.0-git Grishenko, from the last nightly build
[22:38] <mDemocritus> !spam | m_newton
[22:38] <joaopinto> and btw, edgy is 6.10, not 6.04 (If I can remember :P)
[22:39] <biozit> i trying to configure a automount to mount my windows share, i follow this tutorial http://www.howtoforge.com/accessing_windows_or_samba_shares_using_autofs, but i need the use the IP ou name o the windows machine ?
[22:39] <Hooplah> I can't get the broadcom driver fully manually installed. Here is the problem: http://pastebin.com/m31b2777c
[22:39] <Lr5> Anyone knows where totem stores its settings file? It seems that it tries to use pulseaudio which seems to be  bugged for me
[22:39] <Shiba> joaopinto: aye, I have 6.10 installed and want its repos
[22:39] <consquigulator1> Shiba: okay, I'll try it.
[22:39] <joaopinto> addeboy, does "which vlc" outputs the /usr/bin path ?
[22:39] <m_newton> sorry mDemocritus
[22:39] <joaopinto> Shiba, try the archive now :P
[22:40] <m_newton> mDemocritus, thanks for your help though!
[22:40] <SaintPaulTom> mDemocritus: I've used the mount option of 'user' to no avail, and the chown command gives me the following message: chown: changing ownership of `/media/hdf2': Operation not permitted
[22:40] <methecooldude> Is there any way to allow my audio to work in 2 different programs at 1 time?
[22:40] <Shiba> joaopinto: still not installing with the same error
[22:40] <wuxia> what's the ubuntu way to install mediawiki? (apt-get install mediawiki) doesn't have it up at http://localhost/mediawiki/index.php
[22:40] <mDemocritus> m_newton: np... try to keep on-topic
[22:40] <addeboy> joaopinto, yes, it points to /usr/local/bin/vlc where I installed the version compiled by me
[22:40] <neofax> Anyone using HD_DVD in ubuntu?
[22:40] <joaopinto> Shiba, do you get any error during the update ?
[22:40] <neofax> join #ubuntu-kernel
[22:40] <joaopinto> addeboy, so there is your problem, make uninstall did not uninstall the custom install
[22:41] <mDemocritus> SaintPaulTom: make sure you use sudo on that chown command
[22:41] <mDemocritus> SaintPaulTom: sorry i should have mentioned that
[22:41] <joaopinto> vlc from the repositories was properly installed, however usr/local takes priority on your PATH var, and you are just calling the local install version
[22:41] <consquigulator1> y
[22:41] <consquigulator1> Oops, sorry.
[22:41] <joaopinto> addeboy, rm /usr/local/bin/vlc should be sufficient
[22:42] <methecooldude> Is there any way to allow my audio to work in 2 different programs at 1 time?
[22:42] <joaopinto> unless vlc provides other binaries, which you should also rm from local bin
[22:42] <Shiba> joaopinto: I'm not sure how I missed that before, it was right in front of my eyes and I just didn't see it.. I'm getting a bunch of 404s
[22:42] <joaopinto> Shiba, erm
[22:42] <SaintPaulTom> mDemocritus: I should have known that. That did the trick. Thank you.
[22:43] <joaopinto> Shiba, just make sure you dont have a syntax error on your sources.list, check some sources.list sample :P
[22:43] <mDemocritus> musikgoat: have any luck with debian on that linkstation?
[22:43] <joaopinto> and eventually try another mirror
[22:43] <atlanta80> I would like to delete my whole configuration of avant-window-navigator but gconf-editor won't let me remove the keys, how can I do this?
[22:43] <musikgoat> mdemocritus yes, but offtopic
[22:43] <fyrestrtr> atlanta80: what do you mean "it won't let you"?
[22:43] <Xpistos> joaopinto: You are the man. That did it
[22:43] <mDemocritus> SaintPaulTom: np... i don't think that's the preferred way, but it works
[22:44] <Shiba> joaopinto: hmmm
[22:44] <joaopinto> Xpistos, np :)
[22:44] <impulze> hi there i'm trying to help a friend with the alternate cd
[22:44] <addeboy> joaopinto, did that, and now when I run "which vlc" I get /usr/bin/vlc, but when I try to run, it says VLC media player 0.8.6g Janus and then it throws some errors. Version 0.8.6g was an earlier version that I tried yesterday, and I think I haven't uninstalled it properly
[22:44] <impulze> is there a chance to obtain a shell (with apt-get) from within the alternate cd?
[22:44] <mDemocritus> musikgoat: i'm aware... hypocrisy's ok every once in a while right? ;)
[22:44] <impulze> e.g. don't install anything on my physical devices
[22:44] <atlanta80> fyrestrtr: there is no way to delete the entire /apps/avant-window-navigator directory
[22:44] <musikgoat> mDemocritus for the tyrants :-)
[22:44] <Shiba> joaopinto: interesting.  another machine that was installed with 6.10 less than 30 minutes ago with a virgin filesystem has the same errors
[22:44] <impulze> the busybox environment doesn't seem to offer apt-get
[22:44] <neofax> I hate firefox 3.0 b5 in Hardy!!!
[22:45] <joaopinto> addeboy, erm, 0.8.6g Janus is the version provided on the ubuntu repositories...
[22:45] <GofG> The program that gets used for manual partitioning when first installing ubuntu
[22:45] <GofG> Does that get installed?
[22:45] <GofG> Can I use that program? >.,
[22:45] <atlanta80> fyrestrtr: even tried, "gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/avant-window-navigator" and all the info is still there
[22:45] <fyrestrtr> atlanta80: almost never is there "no way to delete" in Linux.
[22:45] <joaopinto> GofG, you can use gparted, the gnome partition editor
[22:45] <musikgoat> mdemocritus thats a bold faced lie :-)
[22:45] <addeboy> joaopinto, isn't 0.8.6c the version in repositories?
[22:45] <goti_aka_miles> hello
[22:46] <atlanta80> fyrestrtr: exactly why I'm confused and looking for help
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> GofG sudo apt-get install gparted
[22:46] <gronne> what was the port configuring software called?
[22:46] <gronne> the one pre-installed
[22:46] <navetz> does anyone know how to find out what the max virtual resolution you video card will support with xrandr?
[22:46] <joaopinto> addeboy, well, on hardy it's 0.8.6e, you are using an older release right ?
[22:46] <GofG> Jack_Sparrow, joaopinto: thanks
[22:46] <fyrestrtr> atlanta80: unfortunately -- its almost 1 AM here, so I must get some sleep if I am to be civil tomorrow at the office.
[22:46] <GofG> Wait, will that run under KDE?
[22:47] <joaopinto> GofG, yes, gnome apps run fine under KDE
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[22:47] <goti_aka_miles> ys
[22:47] <joaopinto> it will just install a bunch of gtk apps
[22:47] <joaopinto> erm, i mean, libs
[22:47] <dkt> GofG: yes
[22:47] <addeboy> joaopinto, yes, I said earlier, I have 7.10. But I'm thinking to upgrade..
[22:47] <atlanta80> Anyone here familiar with removing things whole "folders" in gconf-editor?
[22:47] <goti_aka_miles> but he must install gtk libs
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> addeboy MOst of my boxes here are still gutsy
[22:47] <emma> addeboy: are you happy with your Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[22:47] <joaopinto> addeboy, now there is no doubt, you are running vlc from the repositories, unlike the latest hour for which you were running a local vlc copy
[22:48] <addeboy> emma, I was very happy until this issue with vlc, but I'm pretty sure is my fault here :)
[22:48] <joaopinto> it was :)
[22:48] <fyrestrtr> atlanta80: try in #gnome
[22:48] <DefineKThyne> Does anyone in here know how to create custom boot/install disks?
[22:48] <fyrestrtr> can anyone recommend a simple to-do list manager?
[22:49] <Fjss> how can I automatically unlock my WLan keyring when I boot up??
[22:49] <joaopinto> fyrestrtr, Tasque
[22:49] <fyrestrtr> !info tasque
[22:49] <fyrestrtr> bah
[22:49] <joaopinto> ops, another one from getdeb, sorry
[22:49] <m1r> evening chanell
[22:50] <emma> DefineKThyne: you might want to take a look at this -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395248
[22:51] <DefineKThyne> emma: do you have a moment so i can explain my windows-induced dilemma?
[22:51] <goti_aka_miles> see you everybody
[22:51] <emma> DefineKThyne: you are better off detailing your problems and asking them to the room in general.
[22:52] <consquigulator1> Shiba: I ran sudo reiserfsck --rebuild-sb /dev/sdc1 and it fixed the block count.  Then I ran  reiserfsck --check /dev/sdc1, as per the output from --rebuild-sb.  It said 2 found corruptions.  Then I ran sudo reiserfsck --fix-fixable /dev/sdc1, it said no corruptions found.  I mounted it, everything seems okay.  Should I repeat with the other block device?  If that works, do I run mdadm --assemble to put it back together?
[22:53] <consquigulator1> Notice no enter for punctuation ;).
[22:53] <Shiba> joaopinto: I cut sources.list down to this: http://rafb.net/p/d000LW86.html and am getting 404s from it
[22:53] <debian> Whould grub-update discover my usb-stick os?
[22:54] <Shiba> joaopinto: I'm not sure where I can grab these packages from
[22:54] <emma> Shiba:  what packages are you looking for?
[22:54] <Pici> Shiba: Edgy is no l
[22:54] <Pici> Shiba: er, No longer supported. Its end of life was in april.
[22:55] <Shiba> Pici: so I can't download packages for it from anywhere anymore?
[22:55] <nighmi> good evening, is there a possibility of using multiple standard fonts for GTK? and if so, how would I do it?
[22:55] <Pici> Shiba: Generally, no.
[22:55] <emma> !fonts | nighmi
[22:55] <Shiba> I need libpam-ldap and libnss-ldap along with supporting packages
[22:56] <Xcell> Which is the (best) inline in system spell checker?
[22:56] <Xcell> if one exists
[22:56] <ryckoort_> hi all ;)
[22:57] <Broadcom> !hi | ryckoort_
[22:57] <emma> Pici - could he changes his sources.list to Feisty repositories?
[22:57] <ryckoort_> where i can find a list of depot up to date ?
[22:57] <Pici> emma: He could upgrade using the !upgrade steps
[22:58] <emma> Yeah I thought someone using Edgy is averse to updating.
[22:59] <fyrestrtr> ryckoort_: a list of debs?
[22:59] <fyrestrtr> Xcell: aspell
[22:59] <ryckoort_> yes fyrestrtr
[22:59] <Xcell> hmmm isnt that using office?
[22:59] <Scunizi> anyone have a broken VMware server install on the new -18 kernel? I can't seem to find the any-any update.. Any assistance would be appriciated.
[22:59] <fyrestrtr> ryckoort_: getdeb.net
[22:59] <ryckoort_> i look for gsynaptics-mcs-plugin package and i not found :(
[22:59] <Shiba> Pici: no, I can't do that... this machine is a buildbot designed to do automated software builds that link against the libraries present in ubuntu edgy
[22:59] <Xcell> ok.. nvm.. my mistake
[22:59] <Xcell> thx
[22:59] <fyrestrtr> Xcell: no. What does it have to do with office?
[22:59] <ryckoort_> can you tell me if you find it ? fyrestrtr
[22:59] <tyranos> how can i setup the  remote control of my dvb stick ??? plz help i googled for 30 min now and only found an lirc config file
[23:00] <fyrestrtr> ryckoort_: just search for it on getdeb.net
[23:00] <Xcell> srry.. thx for the help
[23:00] <Shiba> Pici: any chance of finding a mirror?
[23:00] <Ergo^> hello
[23:00] <ryckoort_> ok fyrestrtr
[23:00] <Xcell> have a good day folks
[23:00] <Ergo^> i need to compile my perl instalation on hardy
[23:00] <Ergo^> any easy way to do it ie, create a deb from source ?
[23:01] <Pici> Shiba: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com exists, but mainly for upgrading and may go down at any time.  You really should get off edgy, its past its End of Life.
[23:01] <fyrestrtr> Ergo^: you want to update the version of perl that comes with the system?
[23:02] <Ergo^> fyrestrtr: i dont think so, i should be ok with the version i have, i just need to recompile it so it wont segfault in certain situations
[23:02] <DefineKThyne> My partition issue is in the pastebin if someone would like to take a look for me :)
[23:02] <rony> hi ,,how can I install some aplication whit .exe ?? in ubuntu,,sorry I am new in this ,,,,please
[23:03] <DefineKThyne> ....and I'm sorry that I assumed it would auto format the text.
[23:03] <tj83> rony.. .exe is for windows only... sometimes can be used in wine...
[23:03] <addeboy> for anyone that could be interested, I finally solved the problem I had by doing a "make install" and then a "make uninstall" of the vlc version that showed up in output, and now I'm back to the version that is in repositories :)
[23:03] <deeperror> rony, try wine
[23:03] <tj83> !wine
[23:03] <rony> ok,,, thanyou,, ,,,
[23:03] <Broadcom> does anybody know what this error with kubuntu means? pastebin.com/m552a6883
[23:05] <tj83> Broadcom.. thats a bad link
[23:05] <DefineKThyne> rony: if you go to your Synaptic Package manager and search WINE you'll find what you need.
[23:05] <Broadcom> tj83: http://pastebin.com/m552a6883
[23:06] <rony> definekthyne:.. I go to install wine,,,
[23:06] <Broadcom> !wine | rony
[23:06] <DefineKThyne> rony: mark it for installation, then a little box should come up, press ok, then press the apply button and you should be good to go.
[23:07] <keylocker> ive installed ubuntu on a sata fake raid and ive activated a lvm partition
[23:07] <nighmi> Having read the ubottu-link I was given, I've got to ask yet another time, cause it didn't help, or perhaps it would.. perhaps I just don't get it: is there a possibility of using multiple standard fonts for GTK? and if so, how would I do it?   that means.. I want to use different fonts for different scripts...
[23:07] <tj83> Broadcom... Are you trying to get CPU scaling to work? Seems like a driver error... Perhaps the wrong driver for your chip?
[23:07] <keylocker> since the lvm configuration im getting this message
[23:07] <keylocker> [    5.229482] device-mapper: table: 254:4: mirror: Device lookup failure
[23:07] <keylocker> [    5.229482] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table
[23:08] <Broadcom> tj83: sorry, i forgot to say that that was in the log right before a crash
[23:08] <keylocker> someone know how can i make my system boot/?
[23:08] <Anthrounit> hey can someone help with with a hard drive setup
[23:08] <rony> yes,,, is 't very easy install one package in ubuntu,, fuck windows,,jejejeje,,, than you guys
[23:08] <mDemocritus> !ask | Anthrounit
[23:08] <tj83> Broadcom had is happend more than once? and what CPU?
[23:08] <tj83> it*
[23:08] <DefineKThyne> keylocker: iotcl errors are never good. i'm pretty sure that means I/O error.
[23:08] <Broadcom> tj83: it is on a powerpc, and it has happend more than once
[23:08] <impulze> DefineKThyne: i don't think so
[23:09] <impulze> he's probably missing device-mapper support in the kernel
[23:09] <Myrtti> !language | rony
[23:09] <keylocker> DefineKThyne: but if i boot a livecd and install dmraid, everything gets fine
[23:09] <rony> ok,,, I am sorry
[23:09] <Broadcom> tj83: http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=705267&page=4 look at spaetz's comment
[23:09] <Anthrounit> i have 2 80gig hard drives in a single box they show up in ubuntu as /dev/sda1 and /devsdb1 but they are ide drives the problem is i want the slave drive as a drive for storeing files and to use it as a network share
[23:10] <duane> my distro updated kernel today and now my broadcom works automatically :) finally able ditch ndiswrapper so sweet
[23:10] <tj83> Broadcom... I dont have experience with powerpc... sorry... What architecture are you using? powerpc i assume.. is it possible to run i386?
[23:10] <keylocker> into initramfs i get the same error running dmraid -ay
[23:10] <duane> hardy 8.04 is getting sweet
[23:10] <DefineKThyne> can someone give me a hand with my predicament? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16999/
[23:10] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: hardy has switched over to using all /dev/sd* for hard drives
[23:10] <adamb> Hey guys so I have a video file uploaded, and one was corrupted, one wasnt: the command file outputs: "Microsoft ASF" for the good file and "data" for the bad file. they are same exact size each, how can I tell if this was because of a "ascii" upload instead of binary?
[23:10] <Broadcom> tj83: im on powerpc, hold on ill try
[23:10] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: dmesg | less
[23:11] <Anthrounit> but i keep hearing about these mount points and if i should make it a /home for the slave but idk
[23:11] <tj83> Broadcom... dont do anything... i mean give us uname -a  that is more appropriate
[23:11] <Broadcom> tj83: what do you mean run i836?
[23:11] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: depends on where you want it mounted
[23:12] <tj83> Broadcom.. i mean i386... i dont know much about powerpc.. i do know that there is a specific kernel for it.
[23:12] <Anthrounit> if i mount it as /home does the /home go to that drive only
[23:12] <rony>  	thanks, if I run the wine,
[23:12] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: yes
[23:12] <Broadcom> tj83: www.pastebin.com/m3a6f7c70
[23:12] <Myrtti> !ppc | Broadcom
[23:12] <Anthrounit> all i want is to use it with ext3  for storing stuff that changes alot
[23:12] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: but careful... you'd want to do that during the install
[23:12] <Broadcom> Myrtti: i know what a ppc is!
[23:13] <Myrtti> Broadcom: and seen the wikipage too?
[23:13] <tj83> Broadcom.. doesnt show output.. you can paste single line here
[23:13] <esnuchi> howdy
[23:14] <vraa> hey guys
[23:14] <Anthrounit> so how can i save files to the main drive other then the desktop and /home  and to the slave drive
[23:14] <vraa> i'm gonna setup ubuntu right now, how do i use raid 0? it's detecting my onboard raid array as two seperate drives
[23:14] <lberg> mDemocritus: you still here?
[23:14] <esnuchi> i'm looking for tips on installing ubuntu on an old thinkpad with 500MHz cpu, 64mb ram, 5gb hard disk
[23:14] <rony> 	more a question, as I can compress a file in several parts,?
[23:15] <Broadcom> tj83: hold on a sec
[23:15] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: first of all, Desktop is in /home/username
[23:15] <fyrestrtr> rony: yes
[23:15] <UBUNTUJAY123> esnuchi i would go with xubuntu
[23:15] <mDemocritus> lberg: no.... ;D
[23:15] <Simonft> Linux simon-laptop 2.6.24-18-powerpc #1 Wed May 28 19:29:28 UTC 2008 ppc GNU/Linux
[23:15] <Anthrounit> yes i know but i mean using other places like windows lets you
[23:15] <esnuchi> its looking like the text-based installer will be the better choice, and beyond that... mayber enlightenment window manager?
[23:15] <Broadcom> tj83: Linux simon-laptop 2.6.24-18-powerpc #1 Wed May 28 19:29:28 UTC 2008 ppc GNU/Linux
[23:15] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: you would need to set that up during the install to make sure it works right
[23:15] <lberg> mDemocritus: haha..... well, changing the WEP key didn't help. I'm still stuck at either 1 or 2 mbps connection speed.
[23:16] <Anthrounit> how
[23:16] <UBUNTUJAY123> esnuchi xubuntu is lighter
[23:16] <lberg> mDemocritus: at least according to nm-applet.
[23:16] <mDemocritus> lberg: ouch... how far away? and what's between the wireless card and the router, if you imagine a straight line
[23:16] <esnuchi> ok
[23:16] <UBUNTUJAY123> and if u want an even lighter one go with DSL
[23:16] <mDemocritus> lberg: you can doublecheck the tx/rx rate by running iwconfig
[23:16] <vraa> looks like i need the alternate iso ?
[23:17] <fyrestrtr> eshear: use the 'server' install disk, in text mode. Install the base system only, use tons of swap. You can use it as a console, with 64MB of RAM, you can hardly run any window manager on it.
[23:17] <tj83> Broadcom.. that thread you sent me to seems to suggest your in a "testing" release.. One could expect propbelms... I can tell you that your Error is CPU scaling related.
[23:17] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: during the install, when you set up partitions, tell it to use the entire second disk as /home
[23:17] <tj83> Broadcom beyond that i am afraid i am of no help.
[23:17] <lberg> mDemocritus: probably about 15 ft or less...and just one wall...but the router IS set to transmit at a strength of 2/10.
[23:17] <Broadcom> tj83: ok, should i file a bug?
[23:17] <mDemocritus> lberg: well, change that first of all
[23:17] <rony> fyrestrtr: do you now what is the easy form to compress a file in several parts,,
[23:17] <Anthrounit> so what about the first disk can i still save files to it somewhere?
[23:17] <mDemocritus> lberg: try moving the router or the computer if possible
[23:17] <esnuchi> i tried out DSL and it was very quick, but was lacking in a couple areas like problems with getting firefox plugins like flash working, and not having any sort of package manager
[23:18] <Anthrounit> like if i download something
[23:18] <tj83> Broadcom.. if you want to contribute to the development i would but make sure its in the proper place for this testing release..
[23:18] <lberg> mDemocritus: ok....should i ramp it up all the way to 10? becuause, like I said, I was getting 54mbps before installing WinXP, and nothing has changed except on my computer's side...
[23:18] <Broadcom> tj83: i just realized, it only crashes when it is using batteries. must be somthing to do with the cpu scaling
[23:18] <tj83> I would revert to edgy which is "stable" for powerpc
[23:18] <UBUNTUJAY123> well with the specs i got with any older ubuntu or and older xubuntu
[23:19] <UBUNTUJAY123> either should work fine
[23:19] <mDemocritus> lberg: couldn't hurt
[23:19] <Redhammer> hello short and maybe stupid question, what could be the reason that some avi's on my computer has thumbnails and some only have icon, one example is I have encoded a recording twice in xvid one quant3 and one quant4 -- only the quant4 file has a thumbnail
[23:19] <lberg> mDemocritus: ok...brb
[23:19] <Redhammer> any ideas
[23:19] <Broadcom> tj83: im using it for testing mostly, running kubuntu, so i dont mind bugs
[23:19] <mDemocritus> Redhammer: looks like you isolated the problem....
[23:19] <Adeene> hi :)
[23:19] <Adeene> one question
[23:19] <ledmushroom> how would I make krusader  my defualt file browser
[23:19] <Adeene> is there someone to test or use Wikicalc?
[23:19] <mDemocritus> Redhammer: the thumbnail only works with certain codecs
[23:20] <Redhammer> mDemocritus: no same codec slightly higher bit rate at quant3 than quant4
[23:20] <Anthrounit> but is there anyway i can save my files to both hard disks?
[23:20] <Redhammer> other files work fine at either setting
[23:20] <tj83> Broadcom... well then i guess you are more "qualified" of a linux user than i am.. I am work in progress. But "testing" releases are certainly not meant for normal use.
[23:20] <Redhammer> or can it be too much video bitrate ?
[23:20] <fyrestrtr> rony: rar a -m5 -v10M myarchive /some/directory
[23:20] <thrud> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu. Can anyone help me with installing a theme? if so pm me, cheers :)
[23:20] <mDemocritus> Redhammer: are you sure? AVI is just a container... you're using mpeg 4 on the inside?
[23:20] <thrope> hi im trying to mount a disk by label, but its not showing up in /dev/disk/by-label and won't mount... I set the label with e2label
[23:20] <BCM43> tj83: i know, but i think i will stick with kubuntu 8.04.
[23:21] <fyrestrtr> rony: that will create 10 megabyte files that, when decompressed, will contain the contents of /some/directory
[23:21] <thrope> is there anything I need to do to rescan /dev/disk/by-* directories because none of the new ones show up
[23:21] <Redhammer> mdemo I am using xvid (via avidemux) for all my encodings
[23:21] <tj83> BCM43 ... ok... good luck with that... file your bug report... maybe it will help for the stable release.
[23:21] <BCM43> tj83: ok, any idea where to file it?
[23:21] <Redhammer> similarly I have the issue also with some mpg files -- some have preview thumbnail some do not
[23:21] <esnuchi> so, using the text-based ubuntu installer, could i omit gnome, and install another window manager in its place reasonably easily?
[23:21] <russe11> What is the terminal equivalent to "select best server" to find the best repository mirror?
[23:22] <mDemocritus> Redhammer: ah... that's probably it.... xvid is pretty much mpeg4, with a few changes... i'm clueless to your problem beyond that
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> esnuchi: yes, would have to choose commandline install from the boot up options menu
[23:22] <tj83> BCM43 no.. you would have to research that... I would go back to where you obtained the copy to start with.
[23:22] <BCM43> tj83: ok, thanks
[23:22] <musikgoat> esnuchi: if you are looking for a light window manager, have you looked at xubuntu?
[23:22] <Redhammer> mdemocritus: yes xvid is an open mpeg4 codec
[23:22] <Redhammer> thanks for your help
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> esnuchi: see this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[23:23] <mDemocritus> Redhammer: np, wish i could be more help :D
[23:23] <lberg> mDemocritus: Ok. 10/10 now. nm-applet is still reporting 2mbps , however, iwconfig reports 54mbps. a couple seconds before, iwconfig was reporting 5 and 6 mbps, but i guess it went up for some reason.....
[23:23] <zvacet> esnuchi : yes and aftr that sudo tasksel and check what you want (kubutu,xubuntu)
[23:24] <Anthrounit> So is it not possible to have 2 drives in a box that you can save user files too
[23:24] <rony> fyrestrtr. so I need to use a special package?, or there are any in ubuntu?
[23:24] <fyrestrtr> rony: that example uses rar for compression.
[23:24] <mDemocritus> lberg: that's messy... look for bug reports
[23:25] <fyrestrtr> russe11: netselect-apt
[23:25] <tj83> Anthrounit you say user files... you mean like mp3, test, video and the like?
[23:25] <tj83> text*
[23:25] <zathras_laptop> any ideas how i can get sound back? stopped working after todays update!!! :-(
[23:25] <Anthrounit> yes just that junk i have and i want to share download or mess with that kinda stuff
[23:25] <tyler> Hey guys how can i install MS Office on Ubuntu 8.04
[23:25] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: yes it is, you could mount one drive as /home, then make another directory inside /home or inside /home/username, then mount the second drive
[23:25] <esnuchi> is the base system of ubuntu, xubuntu, and kubuntu going to have around the same memory footprint when you omit the window managers?
[23:25] <mDemocritus> Anthrounit: or something like that
[23:26] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey people. Any idea how do I make it so that the panel at the bottom of my desktop in Ubuntu is stretched over BOTH monitors, when in twin view?
[23:26] <mDemocritus> tyler: that makes me shudder....
[23:26] <tj83> Anthrounit there is no reason you cannot have multiple drives..
[23:26] <zvacet> tyler : you can try with wine
[23:26] <tyler> Shudder>/?
[23:26] <loquitus_of_borg> tyler: wine should give you a chance
[23:26] <tyler> i know but i get an stupid error message when i tyr
[23:26] <lberg> mDemocritus: well, I guess what I want to know is WHY was this dongle working FINE after a fresh install of Ubuntu PRIOR to putting winblows on the machine, but NOT FINE after a fresh install of Ubuntu AFTER having windows on the machine? Could windows have messed with the network hardware on my mobo? or could it have messed with the hardware of my dongle??
[23:26] <zvacet> !wine | tyler
[23:26] <mDemocritus> tyler: you can try WINE, but i dunno if that'll work. Openoffice is a good word processor
[23:26] <daxro1> Hi all
[23:26] <russe11> fyrestrtr, thanks
[23:27] <loquitus_of_borg> tyler: use open office. Microsoft sucks.
[23:27] <tyler> I've tryed it with one
[23:27] <tj83> Tyler... most of us leave windows because of microsoft... your just barking up the wrong tree... use openoffice.org
[23:27] <Anthrounit> ok ok so if the master drive is /root with the home directory on it i can make a /home/drive2 and mount that then the slave drive will be that correct
[23:27] <mDemocritus> tyler: i shudder to think of people running microsoft software on linux...
[23:27] <tyler> OPEN OFFICE IS HORRIUABLE
[23:27] <jrib> tyler: look into crossover office
[23:27] <tyler> k
[23:27] <tj83> Anthrounit i mount drives in /media personally...
[23:27] <loquitus_of_borg> tyler: no it is not. it is terrific. you are used to something horrible. that's why something good seems horrible. it is a polar effect.
[23:27] <Anthrounit> what happens when i use something like a knoppix disk or another version of linux on this system in the future
[23:27] <rony> fyrestrtr:	yes, well,, for windows using winrar, which is in archives. rar ,,but for ubuntu what  application should use?
[23:27] <Anthrounit> why media
[23:27] <tyler> Open office doesn't nearly have the amount of programs open does
[23:27] <lberg> mDemocritus: and please don't read those capital words as me getting impatient. you've been very helpful. I only capitalized those for emphasis.
[23:28] <Daisuke_Ido> esnuchi: to answer your question, once you omit desktop environments and their libraries, yes, they should all have about the same foorprint
[23:28] <fyrestrtr> rony: also rar :)
[23:28] <tyler> Microsfot
[23:28] <tyler> Microsfot
[23:28] <Daisuke_Ido> tyler: what are you looking to do?
[23:28] <Anthrounit> mine at first came up as /media/sdb1 and i could not save to it
[23:28] <tyler> omg i cant spell
[23:28] <FloodBot3> tyler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:28] <loquitus_of_borg> tyler: are you using ms word to spell? :P
[23:28] <tyler> Well i need Info path, im going to need Acess and published
[23:28] <fyrestrtr> rony: sudo apt-get install unrar
[23:28] <tj83> Tyler... the whole suite isnt installed in ubuntu by default... and openoffice will do ANYTHING MSoffice will do times 5
[23:28] <tyler> the three open doesn't have
[23:28] <daxro1> Having a little problem with audio after a fresh install of hardy it worked fine , after upgrading sound seems to skip , snd card is a intel 82801G HDA on a sony laptop
[23:28] <mDemocritus> lberg: it's ok... i understand that it doesn't make any sense...
[23:28] <loquitus_of_borg> tyler: I feel sorry for you now.
[23:28] <zvacet> rony : sudo apt-get install unrar p7zip p7zip-full
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> tyler: for access use base
[23:29] <thrud> can anyone help me install a theme? or show me a good guide. I've d/l one and used system>pref>appearance to install, but nothing :(
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> tyler: open office has a database that's superior to access
[23:29] <tj83> Anthrounit...  could be a permissions problem
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> get scribus to beat publisher down with a brick
[23:29] <rony> ok,,thank I will go to install unrar
[23:29] <tyler> I still need info path and Publisher
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> and i'm not familiar with infopath
[23:29] <mDemocritus> lberg: i would check for bug reports with that wireless card, or with the wireless manager relating to link speed
[23:29] <vraa> is XFS stable?
[23:29] <lberg> mDemocritus: but it's pretty impossible that windows might have damaged my network chipset?
[23:29] <mDemocritus> vraa: define stable
[23:29] <Anthrounit> and how would i change a permissions if i had that drive on media/sdb1 still
[23:29] <vraa> better than windows xp :D
[23:30] <adac>  kaffeine wants to install some codec all of the time...and it seems to be in an infinite loop :(
[23:30] <fyrestrtr> tyler: if you need infopath and publisher, then perhaps you should stick with Windows as there is no clear alternative to infopath in Linux. There are programs for desktop publishing though.
[23:30] <musikgoat> windows xp is not a filesystem
[23:30] <mDemocritus> lberg: well.... all conspiracy theorys aside, yeah, that's pretty darn unlikely
[23:30] <vraa> ntfs, sorry
[23:30] <tyler> Im still searching for a way ot get MS Office on it
[23:30] <tj83> there is a command line i am sure someone in here could provide.. but i am too noob to know.. I would use sudo nautilus and use properties to change permissions..
[23:30]  * daxro1 thinks hardy is a downgrade :|
[23:30] <tyler> Why use an alternative when you can go for the gold
[23:30] <tj83> not the cleanest way though
[23:30] <Anthrounit> MS Office can be installed ussing wine
[23:30] <mDemocritus> vraa: the linux filesystems are better than the windows ones, since they don't suffer from fragmentation nearly as much
[23:30] <lberg> mDemocritus: haha.....the reason I'm even WONDERING is that I know for a fact that my motherboard is too new to have drivers built into WinXP.....
[23:30] <musikgoat> cause its just a gold wrapper with coal underneath
[23:30] <fyrestrtr> tyler: #ubuntu-chat for more general discussions please.
[23:31] <daxro1> hardy broke my audio , suspend , hibernate , shutdown , acpi wtf
[23:31] <Cyndrework> whats a good text editor that allows column selections?
[23:31] <lberg> mDemocritus: under normal circumstances, I woudln't suspect such a thing, but......
[23:31] <vraa> that's what i've heard re: ext3 and what not
[23:31] <mDemocritus> lberg: understandable
[23:31] <fyrestrtr> Cyndrework: what is 'column selections'
[23:32] <musikgoat> vraa: ext3 is slow in comparison to xfs
[23:32] <zvacet> tyler : http://www.codeweavers.com/
[23:32] <vraa> than xfs it is :)
[23:32] <tyler> I already have Crossover
[23:32] <daxro1> Can the room be kept on topic please ?
[23:32] <vraa> any suggestions re: raid 0?
[23:32] <tyler> IT just says it needs a newer version of windows
[23:32] <fyrestrtr> tyler: take it to #ubuntu-chat
[23:32] <mDemocritus> vraa: but xfs can lose a bunch of data if the system goes down unexpectedly.... some programs don't write data safely enough to avoid that
[23:32] <Cyndrework> lfryestrtr: instead of selecting left to right and up and down, it would just select any block from top left to bottom right corner
[23:32] <Ergo^> ermm.....
[23:32] <vraa> mDemocritus: thanks for the warning, i'll stick to ext3 then, i dont want to lose any data
[23:33] <Ergo^> i have created new debs for perl from ubuntu's repo
[23:33] <Daisuke_Ido> vraa: yeah, reiserfs will kill your data
[23:33] <tj83> <-- agrees tyler.. seeing the word windows makes my tummy uneasy.
[23:33] <mDemocritus> vraa: it's more FUD than anything, but it can happen
[23:33] <Ergo^> now i did at-get remove --purge perl
[23:33] <vraa> well i'll stay on the safe side
[23:33] <Daisuke_Ido> vraa: then hide it so you can't find it
[23:33] <Ergo^> and it removes 60% of system atm....
[23:33] <Shiba> Pici: *whew* old-releases saved me
[23:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Ergo^: reason for removing perl?
[23:34] <mDemocritus> vraa: ext3 is good up until around 100gb used, then it slows down quite a bit
[23:34] <debian> It stoped at SCSI sg2 type 0, after putting it on usb...
[23:34] <tyler> Heres another question: Im trying to record games like guild wars. World of warcraft, with RECORDMYDESKTOP and that takes alot of CPU up, When i try to record these games the slow starts lagging because of record my desktop. How can i fix this
[23:34] <Shiba> joaopinto: it looks like I had mistyped old-releases as old.releases earlier; apparently both domains resolve
[23:34] <fyrestrtr> Cyndrework: you mean you want to arbitrarily select letters, or you want the ability to use the mouse to click and drag words? Not sure what is difference between "right and up and down" and clicking the mouse and dragging to highlight.
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> it's part of the base system, and a lot depends on it, there's virtually no reason it should ever be removed
[23:34] <vraa> oh that's excellent! i have 2 80gb drives
[23:34] <vraa> both are less than 100gb, so i should be good right?
[23:34] <Ergo^> Daisuke_Ido: i needed to have perl build on my machine so it wont segfault on certain situations
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ah...
[23:34] <musikgoat> !raid > vraa
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> good thing i said "virtually" :)
[23:34] <vraa> thanks so much!
[23:34] <mDemocritus> vraa: np
[23:34] <Cyndrework> fryestrtr:   Ie - three lines of text, I just want to select positions 3 to 25 on all three lines
[23:34] <fyrestrtr> tyler: turn off desktop effects.
[23:34] <tyler> where and how
[23:35] <tj83> Tyler.... get a faster computer? its a hog.. what can i say..  works.. but works like crap for me too.
[23:35] <fyrestrtr> tyler: system > preferences > appearance
[23:35] <vraa> wow those guides are old heh
[23:35] <Daisuke_Ido> mDemocritus: just out of curiosity, what would you recommend for 500gb filesystems?  (more like 460gb realistically)
[23:35] <mDemocritus> Cyndrework: huh that would be pretty cool
[23:35] <vraa> this is what i'm following right now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461
[23:35] <Ergo^> but it seems that 60% of my all packages are getting removed as i type - will apt restore them after i reinstall perl from debs i created ?
[23:35] <musikgoat> raid hasn't changed much
[23:35] <tyler> I have a fast computer
[23:35] <vraa> am i required to still use the alternate iso or can i use the regular amd64 iso
[23:35] <mDemocritus> Daisuke_Ido: if you can stick it on a UPS, use XFS
[23:35] <fyrestrtr> Cyndrework: vim can do that, but not sure using the mouse.
[23:35] <Cyndrework> mDemocritus: Edit Plus for windows does it
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> mDemocritus: unfortunately, that isn't an option :\
[23:36] <tyler> where do i turn off desktop effects in appearence?
[23:36] <daxro1> Ergo^: prob not
[23:36] <fyrestrtr> Cyndrework: try cream.
[23:36] <tj83> Tyler try fyrestrtr suggestion.. i have a moderatly fas pc too...
[23:36] <mDemocritus> Cyndrework: i'll bet vim or emacs could do that.... i just don't know how
[23:36] <musikgoat> vraa: idk about which live cd's work sorry
[23:36] <Ergo^> daxro1: so .... ? i killed my system virtually ?
[23:36] <fyrestrtr> tyler: click visual effects, then click Off
[23:36] <tj83> tyler... or try metacity --replace and compiz --replace when your done
[23:36] <daxro1> I would doubt it , just perl dependant packages
[23:36] <daves111> can anyone tell me why can't send attachments in thunderbird
[23:37] <Cyndrework> just reformated the text so I could paste in a spreadsheet - will check out cream tommorow
[23:37] <tyler> Oo
[23:37] <tyler> Well im gonan go try cyz
[23:37] <BCM43> daves111: are you getting an error?
[23:37] <fyrestrtr> daves111: ask your mail service provider.
[23:37] <daves111> neither service provider works
[23:37] <daxro1> daves111 your not attaching them ? be mooore specific
[23:37] <mDemocritus> Daisuke_Ido: xfs is pretty darn good... i warn people about it mostly because of the Gentoo handbook explaination of it... if you have a good backup system, XFS will work fine
[23:38] <mDemocritus> Daisuke_Ido: i would recommend rsync for backups...
[23:38] <daves111> error says smtp something
[23:38] <Daisuke_Ido> mDemocritus: i've definitely noticed that my drives are a tad slow, but it's 2x500gb SATA, shouldn't be crawling like that...  i'm guessing there's no way to convert a filesystem (reliably)
[23:38] <BCM43> is there any possibility of getting a problem with hardy heron on a ppc fixed?
[23:38] <esnuchi> from command line, can i start up a single graphical app, all by itself, without loading up a bulky window manager as well?
[23:38] <mDemocritus> Daisuke_Ido: not so much...
[23:38] <fyrestrtr> Daisuke_Ido: SAS is the way to go -- till SSD come down in price.
[23:38] <daves111> it tries, then stalls and
[23:39] <mDemocritus> Daisuke_Ido: are you using software raid?
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> esnuchi: there certainly is - i just don't remember how :\
[23:39] <Guest7460> por favor ayudenme en español
[23:39] <daves111> says sending of message failed
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> mDemocritus: nope
[23:39] <Pici> !es | Guest7460
[23:39] <fyrestrtr> esnuchi: no, you need to load a Window manager. X by itself won't do the job.
[23:39] <Ergo^> lol, mysql got removed and network applet died..... im starting to get worried....
[23:39] <slash> Has anyone else had issues with the latest 2.6.24-18 release and having the nvidia drivers being broken?
[23:39] <fyrestrtr> esnuchi: try tvwm
[23:39] <mDemocritus> Daisuke_Ido: are they internal drives, or usb?
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> fyrestrtr: you can launch a sincle app
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> mDemocritus: internal
[23:39] <musikgoat> slash: i haven't rebooted to find out yet
[23:39] <slash> musikgoat, do so with caution.
[23:39] <daves111> because connecting to smtp server failed
[23:40] <daves111>  but I can send an email
[23:40] <daxro1> daves111: it normaly gives an error code , not sure but is there a thunderbird channel, is your mail server up ?
[23:40] <musikgoat> slash: what are you seeing?
[23:40] <Daisuke_Ido> fyrestrtr: see geexbox - they pretty much launch mplayer with a custom GUI without loading a WM
[23:40] <musikgoat> or not?
[23:40] <fyrestrtr> daves111: this is a problem with your ISP/network, not Ubuntu.
[23:40] <musikgoat> slash: which nvidia drivers are you using?
[23:40] <slash> musikgoat, the restricted modules package depends on nvidia-kernel-common and breaks
[23:40] <lscapegoatl> Hello, I have a laptop that I'm trying to boot ubuntu to, can anyone assist me with this
[23:40] <daxro1> daves111: you could be restricted from sending large attachments
[23:40] <mDemocritus> Daisuke_Ido: you could always try out my favorite new filesystem that i know almost nothing about... zfs
[23:40] <daves111> daxro1: yes, I can send a email
[23:41] <Daisuke_Ido> mDemocritus: i've heard good things about zfs
[23:41] <BCM43> is there any possibility of getting a problem with hardy heron on a ppc fixed?
[23:41] <fyrestrtr> Daisuke_Ido: They are launching a WM, even if it appears they are not. If they are using X, they have to use a WM. It is how X works. You can use a framebuffer and avoid X all together.
[23:41] <daves111> daxro1: i don't think so ... I used to be able to
[23:41] <BCM43> lscapegoatl: are you having problems?
[23:41] <daxro1> daves111: contact the mta and ask ( to be sure )
[23:41] <fyrestrtr> BCM43: always, but not likely as the arch is not supported anymore. However, if its fixed in debian, then you can ask for it to be included.
[23:41] <Daisuke_Ido> fyrestrtr: actually, i'm pretty sure they use the framebuffer, nevermind then :)
[23:42] <connor> hello everyone
[23:42] <daves111> daxro1: mta??
[23:42] <Ergo^> ok any hint now how i can get all the stuff that were dependant reisntalled ?
[23:42] <BCM43> fyrestrtr: how would i file a bug for it, or try to get it fixed?
[23:42] <esnuchi> is there a window manager which i can use to only load up a single app, like firefox?
[23:42] <Ergo^> i have no applications at all
[23:42] <connor> hmm
[23:42] <Ergo^> no synaptic, etc
[23:42] <connor> what happened
[23:42] <daxro1> daves111: mail server admin
[23:42] <mDemocritus> musikgoat: BTW i'm stealing your mug :D
[23:42] <slash> muskigoat, I used to be able to still boot 2.6.24-17 and have X come back up, but with the 18 release X hangs and is unable to load the nvidia kernel module
[23:42] <tyranos> i m really upset with ubuntu right now and also the internet !!!!
[23:42] <lscapegoatl> I'm trying to boot ubuntu over PXE but I need an image, can anyone help?
[23:42] <fyrestrtr> BCM43: depends on the problem and where it originates. Is it a debian issue? Is it an issue with Ubuntu customizations? Is it coming from the software itself?
[23:42] <connor> try booting a live cd
[23:43] <Pici> !netinstall | lscapegoatl
[23:43] <JoaoVr> Hi guys
[23:43] <daves111> I once got a message ... too many connections open
[23:43] <JoaoVr> Is there a Skype to Ubuntu?
[23:43] <daxro1> tyranos: me too contemplating going gentoo
[23:43] <musikgoat> mDemocritus thats like my 3rd...
[23:43] <musikgoat> lol
[23:43] <connor> brb
[23:43] <lscapegoatl> ubottu, I'm not trying to install
[23:43] <lscapegoatl> I want to run it remotely
[23:43] <fyrestrtr> daves111: again, this is a problem with your ISP and you email service provider; nothing we can do to help.
[23:43] <lscapegoatl> Bah!
[23:43] <tyranos> i ve been googling and asking here for 1 hour and no way to find infos on how to setup a remote control
[23:43] <tj83> joavr.. yes at skype.com
[23:43] <BCM43> fyrestrtr: the cpu manager does not work when the power cable is unplugged, and causes it to crash
[23:43] <fyrestrtr> tyranos: use lirc
[23:43] <JoaoVr> tj83 ty
[23:43] <adamb> so what can I use to play wmv files in ubuntu?
[23:44] <daves111> ok, but what would that mean?
[23:44] <tyranos> fyrestrtr, i m trying but cannot configure it
[23:44] <daxro1> for a package based distro upgrading has broke more and fixed nothing for me ... pita
[23:44] <fyrestrtr> BCM43: "it" is what?
[23:44] <lscapegoatl> adamb: have you tried vlc?
[23:44] <connor> crap
[23:44] <BCM43> fyrestrtr: the cpu manager does not work when the power cable is unplugged, and causes ubuntu to crash
[23:44] <connor> i deleted my desktops taskbar
[23:44] <connor> how do i get the desktops back?
[23:44] <jhamyr> hello
[23:44] <tyranos> fyrestrtr, the remote was working bevor lirc but only half of the function and worked even if the tv s not on ..
[23:44] <connor> 'hi
[23:44] <fyrestrtr> BCM43: you get an oops? or just your cursor stops responding, X freezes, etc.
[23:44] <musikgoat> connor  alt+f2 type gnome-panel
[23:44] <jhamyr> como estas
[23:45] <Ergo^> lol ubuntu-desktop got removed....reinstlling it.... brilliant... is there any easier way to recompile perl ?
[23:45] <lscapegoatl> I'm looking for a ubuntu boot image that I can use to boot via PXE
[23:45] <connor> no not that
[23:45] <connor> the actual option
[23:45] <fyrestrtr> Ergo^: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. It doesn't matter if its removed.
[23:45] <connor> to switch between desktops
[23:45] <musikgoat> connor: oh sorry
[23:45] <BCM43> fyrestrtr: everything stops working, complete freeze,
[23:45] <tj83> http://pastebin.com/m552a6883 for BCM's errors
[23:45] <fyrestrtr> Ergo^: it only comes into play when you upgrade the distro.
[23:45] <tyranos> daxro1, what s the good thing about gengtoo
[23:45] <musikgoat> connor: are you using desktop-effects?
[23:45] <Ergo^> fyrestrtr: but all the actual packages were wiped out after i removed perl
[23:45] <daves111> fyrestrtr: what would too many connections open mean?
[23:45] <connor> yes
[23:45] <BCM43> fyrestrtr: http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=705267&page=4 look at spaetz, can you help me do that?
[23:45] <fyrestrtr> daves111: means you have too many connections to your mail server.
[23:46] <Ergo^> fyrestrtr: ive readded the package in aptitude and its leeaching the whole system now as it seems
[23:46] <fyrestrtr> BCM43: I can, but after sleep. Its 2 AM :)
[23:46] <daves111> fyrestrtr: oh, ok...
[23:46] <musikgoat> connor: you want to change the number of desktops there... do you have ccsm installed?
[23:46] <connor> no
[23:46] <connor> there are no desktops to choose from
[23:46] <daxro1> it breaks when you break it , more upto date easier to fix, downsides are it assumes your not an idiot :P
[23:46] <_eMaX_> yawn
[23:46] <connor> i accidently DELETED the panel
[23:46] <_eMaX_> apparently I got a new kernel today and now linux doesn't start up as it thinks my root partition is xfs while it is ext3. anyone knows where to change that?
[23:46] <Ergo^> fyrestrtr: anything else i should check to have the system functional again ? any other meta packages to restore my whole system ?
[23:46] <lscapegoatl> I need to know where I can find a ubuntu boot image that I can use to boot via PXE
[23:46] <BCM43> fyrestrtr: oh, wow, ill see if anybody else can. you might mess up my computer WORSE!. jk
[23:47] <fyrestrtr> Ergo^: please ask others, as I'm going to sleep.
[23:47] <mthn> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem-----how can i fix dis problem ?
[23:47] <fyrestrtr> mthn: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:47] <daves111> hay alguien que habla espanol?
[23:47] <connor> i have a problem with fluxbox
[23:47] <connor> whenever i run it
[23:47] <connor> i get this error
[23:47] <Ergo^> fyrestrtr: goodnight then
[23:47] <musikgoat> connor: so you selected "remove from panel" for Workspace switcher?
[23:47] <connor> remove from panel
[23:47] <BCM43> lscapegoatl: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install does this hel?
[23:47] <BCM43> p
[23:47] <connor> i get this error when trying to run fluxbox
[23:47] <connor> BScreen::BScreen: an error occured while querying the X server.
[23:47] <connor> 	another window manager already running on display:0.0
[23:47] <connor> Error: Couldn't find screens to manage.
[23:47] <connor> Make sure you don't have another window manager running.
[23:47] <FloodBot3> connor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <lscapegoatl> BCM43: I don't want to install
[23:48] <lscapegoatl> BCM43: I want to boot the operating system remotely
[23:48] <tyranos> daxro1, isn t gentoo so that u have to compile everythng from source ???
[23:48] <connor> then boot a live cd
[23:48] <connor> or use vmware or virtual box
[23:48] <connor> or you could use wubi-installer.org
[23:48] <daxro1> tyranos: yeah , its not a downside tho its an enhancement imo
[23:48] <lscapegoatl> The image file has to be less than 30mb or so, or else it will take forever to transfer with PXE
[23:48] <lscapegoatl> How big is the livecd image file?
[23:49] <BCM43> lscapegoatl: http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/ubuntu_pxe.html
[23:49] <BCM43> lscapegoatl: much bigger
[23:49] <tyranos> daxro1, but it would take me a while to compile wine and mplayer and .......
[23:49] <m1r> lscapegoatl: then your setup must be bad with pxe
[23:49] <mthn> sudo dpkg --configure -a----- when i do this, nothings happens, dis means that problem fixed ?
[23:49] <lscapegoatl> BCM43: The image file initrd.gz in that webpage you sent me is the installer image file.  I can't use that because the laptop doesn't have a hard drive.  I'd like to boot remotely]
[23:49] <Guiri> How can I fix this message: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[23:50] <m1r> lscapegoatl: once i get use to PXE, i dont want go back install over anything else
[23:50] <connor> could someone help me out with my fluxbox problem?
[23:50] <BCM43> lscapegoatl: ok, no hard drive, no idea then, sorry
[23:50] <lscapegoatl> :(
[23:50] <BCM43> !anyone | connor
[23:50] <daxro1> tyranos: It does take a while to get it up , but once its up I find it much more stable ( for the most part ) and slightly faster
[23:50] <m1r> lscapegoatl: u probably want check edubuntu if no harddrive
[23:50] <lscapegoatl> m1r: thank you
[23:51] <m1r> nps
[23:51] <Zaiden> Does anyone know of any guides to get ZSNES and other programs running in 64 bit ubuntu?
[23:51] <Guiri> Also, I need to reconfigure a package. How can I do this?
[23:51] <Pelo>  /join ##windows
[23:51] <Pelo> damn
[23:51]  * Pelo now feels like a traitor in front of everyone
[23:51] <m1r> pelo -1 _)
[23:51] <Pelo> hey m1r
[23:52] <m1r> hey pelo :)
[23:52] <daxro1> hw problem with 82801G hda intel , problem occured when I updated a fresh install of hardy h , it also broke suspend/hibernate any one know of solutions / workarounds?
[23:52] <connor> so uh
[23:52] <narothepharoh> how can i add more than one file to a dvd project?
[23:52] <connor> can someone help me get my desktops panel back?
[23:52] <tj83> BCM43.. i'm looking at that thing about powernowd... but its not very clear on how to edit that file
[23:52] <Guest37168> can anybody help me?  I want to change my sistem I´m at kubuntu 8.04 I want to install ubuntu 8.04 without format the hard disk
[23:52] <daxro1> its a sony laptop , I had to disable acpi , kernel ( acpi = no )
[23:52] <SeaPhor> Zaiden, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Super_Nintendo_Emulator_.28ZSNES.29_1.510_for_i386.2FAMD64
[23:53] <lscapegoatl> m1r: can i install edubuntu without having to download the full ubuntu desktop version cd?
[23:53] <m1r> lscapegoatl: i think u can check in synaptic for edubuntu
[23:53] <Zaiden> SeaPhor: Thank you.
[23:53] <Pelo> Guest37168, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  ,  gimme a minute to get you the command to remove kubuntu
[23:54] <Guest37168> ok
[23:54] <lscapegoatl> m1r: i don't know what synaptic is
[23:54] <SeaPhor> Zaiden, thats for gutsy but should  be same for hardy, also, look at the rest of that page, the top lists all topics covere
[23:54] <lberg> mDemocritus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/190515
[23:54] <m1r> lscapegoatl: system > administration > synaptic package manger
[23:55] <lscapegoatl> m1r: i'm on my windows partition right now
[23:55] <amachahoo> hi, have poroblem with ubuntu 8.04 installation "out of range" any idea ?!
[23:55] <tj83> BCM43 ... I now see what they are telling you to do
[23:55] <m1r> lscapegoatl: windows partition or windows OS ?
[23:55] <lberg> mDemocritus: I followed what the very last post said to do, and I haven't rebooted to see if it'll work yet....
[23:55] <tyranos> i want to know y the codes from my emote get forwarded to the xserver ???
[23:55] <lscapegoatl> m1r: windows partition/windows os on machine with both windows and ubuntu
[23:55] <amachahoo> hi, have poroblem with ubuntu 8.04 installation "out of range" any idea ?!
[23:56] <lberg> mDemocritus: I did, however, do a sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M, and it seems to have worked.....but I don't want to do that every time I want fast internet......
[23:56] <m1r> lscapegoatl: if u want me help u with ubuntu .... :)
[23:56] <lscapegoatl> m1r: the PXE files/images and tftpd are in windows, but that's not where the problem is, i just need an image file
[23:56] <m1r> lscapegoatl: u best check in #windows then
[23:57] <akahige> I was removing some old kernel packaged using Synaptic and got an error. Am highly paranoid about having done something wrong... What does "E: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1" mean...?
[23:57] <lscapegoatl> m1r: but i need a linux image file
[23:57] <m1r> Pelo: now i understand your grief if it was about lscapegoatl ;)
[23:57] <lscapegoatl> m1r: my problem has nothing to do with windows
[23:57] <jrib> akahige: do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' in a shell and pastebin the whole output
[23:58] <m1r> lscapegoatl: do you need help with ubuntu or windows ?
[23:58] <lscapegoatl> m1r: i need to find a ubuntu image file
[23:58] <amachahoo> hi, have poroblem with ubuntu 8.04 installation "out of range" any idea ?!
[23:58] <amachahoo> hi, have poroblem with ubuntu 8.04 installation "out of range" any idea ?!
[23:58] <m1r> lscapegoatl: read up please
[23:58] <akahige> jrib: says dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[23:59] <Pelo> Guest37168, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[23:59] <funkyHat> lscapegoatl: have you seen this page: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[23:59] <Guest37168> ok
[23:59] <akahige> jrib: do I need to close Synaptic?
[23:59] <Guest37168> and the command
[23:59] <jrib> akahige: yes
[23:59] <Guest37168> ?
[23:59] <lscapegoatl> funkyHat: I don't want to *install* i want to boot an image remotely using pxe
[23:59] <Pelo> Guest37168, hold on , I'm still trying to locate the command to remove kubuntu-desktop completely,  gimme a few minutes I 'm also dealing iwth an issue of my own . be patient with me