[03:00] <mup> Bug #1846441 opened: [2.4.2] Custom layout is not applied with custom Image <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1846441>
[08:52] <mup> Bug #1846457 opened: [2.6] Composing a VM with an IP address on its interface is in Auto Assign state after commissioning <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1846457>
[12:10] <mup> Bug #1846441 changed: Custom layout is not applied with custom Image <sts> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1846441>
[12:13] <mup> Bug #1846441 opened: Custom layout is not applied with custom Image <sts> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1846441>
[12:19] <mup> Bug #1846441 changed: Custom layout is not applied with custom Image <sts> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1846441>
[12:40] <TimRiceSE> Hi! Has some change been released to maas/images recently? Suddenly today we're unable to deploy machines with a bond interface configured... cloud-init seems to fail with a "Not all expected physical devices present" runtime error... Exact same server was deployed two days ago with the exact same configuration :/


[15:08] <djsiegel1> hey MDC1
[15:08] <djsiegel1> working on any papercuts? :)
[15:33] <djsiegel1> kenvandine: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/502996 can you triage?
[15:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 502996 in hundredpapercuts "Edit Custom Messages window is too narrow" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[15:47] <djsiegel1> kwwii: do you know who could take ownership of this? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/502999
[15:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 502999 in hundredpapercuts "The microphone and webcam icons displayed in the buddy list need improvement" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[15:47] <djsiegel1> DanRabbit: ^
[15:51] <kwwii> djsiegel1: do you know if those icons are in the humanity/elementary set or if they are in empathy itself?
[15:52] <djsiegel1> I am pretty sure they are in empathy
[16:01] <kwwii> hrm, I don't think they are...I cannot find them in any of the empathy packages
[16:03] <kwwii> in fact, I bet these do not exist in the humanity theme at all
[16:05] <kwwii> the camera is from the gnome theme
[16:05] <\vish> kwwii: hi... which icon? screenshot pls.. in humanity we do have a microphone icon
[16:05] <kwwii> \vish: yeah, the one is from humanity and the other is from the gnome theme
[16:05] <kwwii> no wonder they don't match :p
[16:05] <\vish> hehe.. ;)
[16:06] <kwwii> /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/devices/camera-web.png
[16:07] <\vish> the mic is this one? > /Humanity/devices/48/audio-input-microphone.svg right
[16:07] <\vish> ?
[16:07] <kwwii> djsiegel1: it seems that the real bug here is that humanity does not have a camera-web icon
[16:07] <kwwii> \vish: yeah, that is why it is so blurry
[16:07] <\vish> yeah , only 48px one exists..  :(
[16:08] <kwwii> so that one bug is really two
[16:08] <djsiegel1> hmm
[16:08] <kwwii> a) the microphone icon in humanity needs a small size
[16:08] <djsiegel1> I don't think this is something to fix in the icon theme
[16:08] <kwwii> b) humanity needs a camera-web icon (or link)
[16:08] <djsiegel1> these need to be special icons for this use case
[16:09] <djsiegel1> or we need a new icon name added to all icon themes
[16:09] <djsiegel1> capability-audio and capability-video
[16:10] <kwwii> maybe this would be better included in status- ?
[16:10] <djsiegel1> I mentioned in the bug that these icons should have a specific style, and if we implement that style in the theme, it will leak to unintended places
[16:10] <djsiegel1> hmm
[16:10] <djsiegel1> status-microphone-available ?
[16:10] <djsiegel1> status-video-enabled ?
[16:10] <kwwii> hehe, again this brings us to the simplified icon discussion
[16:10] <kwwii> yeah
[16:10] <djsiegel1> icon themes are so so overloaded
[16:11] <kwwii> lol, you don't have to tell me that
[16:11] <djsiegel1> kwwii: do you have a community guy who would be interested in solving this?
[16:14] <kwwii> djsiegel1: I'll send an email to the list and we'll see what happens
[16:14] <djsiegel1> awesome
[16:14] <kwwii> I have several emails in waiting in my outbox to the list already ;)
[16:15] <djsiegel1> which list?
[16:16] <kwwii> ubuntu-art
[16:16] <kwwii> I gotta run to the store, be back in a bit
[16:19] <kwwii> hi \vish, nice nick
[16:19] <\vish> kwwii: hehe.. yeah , updated the nick :)
[16:34] <\vish> kwwii, djsiegel1: if monochrome icons are needed , the naming would need to be camera-web-symbolic and audio-input-microphone-symbolic  , more in-line with the proposal at the UDS
[16:35] <\vish> if we dont include them in the humanity theme the icons could fallback to the default gnome ones
[17:00] <djsiegel1> ok, seems reasonable
[17:46] <MDC1> heeey djsiegel
[17:46] <MDC1> well.. no
[17:47] <MDC1> djsiegel, i'd love to but atm i've got a lot of personal projects to work on.. but when they become boring i'll get back to oss coding :)
[17:49] <djsiegel1> MDC1: ok :)


[21:21] <tgm4883> stalle: no, LTS releases of Ubuntu have 5 years of support. Flavors support length differs
[21:21] <labh> hello
[21:22] <stalle> I see
[21:22] <labh> why window managers use so much CPU?
[21:22] <labh> gnome, kde etc.
[21:22] <tgm4883> stalle: that's true for all flavors. Even Kubuntu only offers 3 years support
[21:22] <labh> is a curse...
[21:22] <Outy> macro0: found anything ?
[21:23] <hany_> fetching file 100 of 2294 at 30.6 kb/s  please kill me .
[21:23] <tgm4883> hany_: one of the many reasons you should install an up to date version from scratch after backing up your data
[21:23] <Outy> hany_: analoge modem ;o) ?
[21:24] <nacc> labh: it depends on your system and usage.
[21:24] <hany_> i in egypt
[21:25] <labh> a window manager is design to help the user and protect the CPU
[21:25] <labh> not the opposite
[21:25] <hany_> internt old man
[21:26] <tgm4883> labh: is there a support question in there or did you come here to complain?
[21:26] <labh> i want to know why?
[21:26] <tgm4883> labh: well you'll need to provide some details
[21:26] <tgm4883> !details
[21:27] <macro0> Outy, try changing the values in /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed
[21:27] <tomreyn> hany_: if you're in north africa, there's https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.mirror.tn-archive2 - in case you're currently using mirror servers which are further away from you.
[21:28] <macro0> to something like w /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed - - - - 255
[21:29] <macro0> because I think in ubuntu it doesnt distinguish sensitivity from speed under the mouse& touchpad settings
[21:29] <nacc> labh: in my experience, the window manager does not consume cpu excessively.
[21:30] <macro0> and then you can run this apparently to enforce the command $ sudo systemd-tmpfiles --prefix=/sys --create
[21:30] <nacc> labh: so, as tgm4883 said, you need to actually provide details instead of vague comments.
[21:30] <Outy> macro0: thanks i'll have a look into it
[21:30] <macro0> let me know
[21:30] <macro0> I am about to install ubuntu later this evening on my x201
[21:30] <macro0> which laptop do you have
[21:31] <labh> iḿ using openbox with tint2 and conky
[21:31] <Outy> macro0: X201 =9
[21:31] <Outy> macro0: X201 =)
[21:32] <labh> is the only efficient iǘe found
[21:32] <labh> i' ve
[21:32] <macro0> coincidence Outy
[21:32] <nacc> labh: is it an older laptop, maybe a weaker graphics card?
[21:32] <Edisto> is there a common problem on gpu crashing after 18.04 upgrade?
[21:32] <labh> nacc: i5 8GB
[21:33] <nacc> Edisto: upgrade from what?
[21:33] <Edisto> 17.10
[21:33] <Edisto> gnome
[21:33] <nacc> Edisto: using nvidia?
[21:33] <Edisto> amd
[21:33] <Edisto> r9 fury
[21:33] <nacc> Edisto: or what do you mean by 'gpu crashing' ?
[21:33] <labh> nacc: intel hd4000
[21:33] <Edisto> arifacts on screen then it goes in a loop of the startup prompts
[21:33] <Outy> macro0: yeahh ^^  be aware: hdaps not working right now under 18.04, and trackpoint speed buggy
[21:34] <nacc> Edisto: so you never get to the login screen?
[21:34] <Edisto> no
[21:34] <nacc> Edisto: I don't believe that is a 'common' experience. Anything obvious in your logs (I'd check /var/log/syslog at least)
[21:35] <Outy> macro0: i have: /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio0 and serio1  but no speed inside this folders
[21:35] <Edisto> nacc: hmmm... trying to avoid reinstall. I can set to nomodeset then try to get in but after that what should I tinker with
[21:35] <luxio> does anyone else think that when the "Show Applications" button is pressed (bottom left), the animation is laggy?
[21:36] <luxio> (GNOME, 18.04)
[21:36] <nacc> Edisto: you can't even get to a tty now? (ctrl+alt+f3)
[21:36] <nacc> luxio: it's fine here
[21:37] <Edisto> nacc: didn't try f3 but f2 loops back into f1 with the arifact crash
[21:37] <luxio> is there a way to disable the animation
[21:37] <nacc> Edisto: try any of them, don't just give up after the first one :)
[21:37] <nacc> Edisto: s/any/all/
[21:37] <nacc> Edisto: that is, in 18.04, i think tty1 is gdm, tty2 is the first user session and then tty3 and on are running normal gettys
[21:37] <matjam> Edisto: are you using the binary driver?
[21:38] <luxio> or at least speed it up? it takes about a second for that animation to complete which is too much when i just want to start an application
[21:38] <Edisto> whatever driver comes default. I just freshly updated from 17.10
[21:38] <nacc> luxio: probably with the appropriate tweak tool?
[21:39] <luxio> oh, found it. gnome tweak tool > appearance > animations > off
[21:40] <matjam> Edisto: give this a try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[21:40] <luxio> feels much faster now
[21:40] <matjam> Edisto: the instructions from section 5.1
[21:40] <matjam> Edisto: thats a pretty new card, right?
[21:40] <Edisto> matjam: yeah 2 years old
[21:41] <nacc> luxio: cool
[21:41] <victorsch> hey
[21:41] <matjam> Edisto: It can take a while for the open source drivers to catch up, so I'd give the vendor's drivers a try
[21:41] <matjam> Edisto: this is a desktop system right?
[21:41] <matjam> of course, its an r9
[21:41] <matjam> der
[21:42] <macro0> Outy, http://nrvale0.github.io/posts/adjusting-thinkpad-trackpoint-sensitivity-on-ubuntu-1604-and-others/
[21:42] <macro0> this is where i got the info from
[21:43] <macro0> just incase you want to check it out
[21:43] <matjam> Edisto: If you can't boot into a graphical desktop reliably to do the work, let me know
[21:43] <Edisto> okie I'll be back one way or another on linux lol
[21:43] <Edisto> rebooting =D
[21:43] <matjam> Edisto: we'll get you working ;-)
[21:45] <Outy> test
[21:45] <matjam> Outy: success
[21:46] <Outy> matjam: what success =) ?
[21:46] <matjam> Outy: you tested
[21:46] <Outy> matjam: yes you're right - ther was a big irc lag here on my side
[21:48] <macro0> Outy, I read from another 18.04 user that you must have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[21:48] <macro0> he writes "On my Thinkpad W520 I simply go System Manager/ Hardware/ HID??/ Mouse/ Advanced and select a different acceleration.
[21:48] <macro0> 1x is like molasses, 10x is quite acceptable and 20 is the max."
[21:49] <Outy> macro0: is that a path or program
[21:50] <aLeSD> hi all
[21:51] <aLeSD> I have a problem with my keyboard
[21:51] <Outy> macro0: found that website the info is on. reading it right niw
[21:51] <macro0> yeah
[21:51] <macro0> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php/68226-ThinkPad-trackpoint-adjust-speed-and-sensitivity
[21:51] <aLeSD> I am sp layout but when I press < button I get \
[21:52] <macro0> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[21:52] <aLeSD> if I show the keyboard layout it is right
[21:52] <aLeSD> it happen only with that key
[21:55] <Outy> macro0: found a very good way: synclient
[21:55] <Outy> synclient - commandline utility to query and modify Synaptics driver options.
[21:56] <macro0> do u have a link
[21:56] <macro0> Outy,
[21:56] <macro0> i am downloading it now
[21:57] <Outy> macro0: synclient is already installed by default. but now i see i can only change values for the touchpad, not trackpoint
[21:57] <macro0> oh
[21:58] <macro0> Outy, so your trackpoint is still sensitive
[21:58] <macro0> ?
[21:59] <Edisto> suprisingly not even nomodeset worked. It just repeated in a loop turning black then back to the command prompt
[22:00] <Outy> macro0: found this: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Trackpoint/#Configure-Trackpoint
[22:00] <Edisto> i'm guessing something is corrupted or conflicting
[22:00] <matjam> Edisto: try "text"
[22:00] <matjam> Edisto: maybe "nomodeset text"
[22:00] <macro0> Outy, looks promising
[22:04] <Outy> macro0: it is, its a gui for the settings you mentioned earlier... thank you =)
[22:04] <Edisto> matjam: trying to figure out what I'm fixing if I get in through the prompt? I'm guessing I should just run ext2fsd and get all my stuff and reinstall
[22:04] <macro0> Outy, wow a gui! I will be using this then
[22:04] <macro0> Outy, thanks for sharing!
[22:06] <Outy> i'll try it right now.. will logout / login
[22:06] <matjam> Edisto: well maybe do a fresh install would rule out anything that got messed up in the upgrade
[22:06] <matjam> Edisto: maybe boot from the install image for 18.04
[22:07] <matjam> Edisto: that will tell you if there's any hardware issue, and then you can do the fsck from there and then backup your stuff, do a reinstall
[22:11] <aLeSD> why the scroll lock is always on ?
[22:11] <aLeSD> and I can't unset it ?
[22:12] <Edisto> matjam: yeah... looks like I have no choice I can't see my files from windows using any program >.<
[22:12] <Outy> macro0: had no effect in 16.04 i'll try it tomorrow on 18.04 - i'll go to bed now. see you macro0 - wish you good luck with 18.04 on your x201 (best laptop ever made) =)
[22:12] <matjam> Edisto: well, boot off a usb stick, I think its the safest course
[22:20] <luxio> I have a problem on 18.04. When I'm typing, half of the time it's smooth, but randomly it just freezes for about a half of a second. Anyone know why I'm experiencing this?
[22:22] <tomreyn> luxio: no, but take a look at the output of "dmesg -T | tail" as well as "tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log" (or post it to a pastebin)
[22:22] <tomreyn> luxio: is this on any program, or just some?
[22:22] <luxio> http://termbin.com/cn9v
[22:23] <luxio> tail: cannot open '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' for reading: No such file or directory
[22:23] <luxio> tomreyn: I've noticed it on both HexChat and GNOME Terminal.
[22:23] <tomreyn> luxio: take a look at all of dmesg - if it keeps spilling these lines many times per secondthen this can be why.
[22:24] <luxio> wait a sec
[22:24] <luxio> I think it happens when I press apostrophe?
[22:24] <luxio> or question mark?
[22:24] <tomreyn> i don't know. is this on wayland, since you don't have /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[22:24] <luxio> xorg
[22:24] <tomreyn> weird, then you should have the log.
[22:25] <luxio> how do I double check?
[22:25] <luxio> also yeah I'
[22:25] <luxio> I've noticed that it freezes when pressing question mark or apostrophe
[22:25] <tomreyn> is there ayn similar log? ls /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[22:25] <luxio> no
[22:25] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release is this?
[22:25] <tomreyn> lsb_releas -ds
[22:25] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds
[22:25] <luxio> ubuntu@desktop:~/Downloads$ locate Xorg.0.log
[22:25] <luxio>  /home/ubuntu/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
[22:26] <luxio> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[22:26] <tomreyn> did you build X yourself?
[22:26] <luxio> no
[22:26] <tomreyn> hmm then i guess the log location must have changed in 18.04
[22:26] <luxio> here's the xorg log: http://termbin.com/qwvl
[22:27] <luxio> or the tail
[22:27] <tomreyn> what about dmesg, does it keep adding those entries?
[22:27] <luxio> yeah it does
[22:28] <luxio> it also happens when I press comma
[22:28] <luxio> so comma, question mark, apostrophe
[22:28] <wtr300> hola, tengo un problema con tor, alguien me puede ayudar?
[22:28] <tomreyn> did you install gnome-system-omonitor from a snap?
[22:28] <luxio> !es | wtr300
[22:28] <wtr300> gracias
[22:28] <luxio> tomreyn: I don't think I did
[22:29] <tomreyn> is the system full ypatched?
[22:29] <luxio> There's a "gnome-system-monitor" directory in ~/snap
[22:29] <luxio> so it may be a snap
[22:30] <tomreyn> yes it is, and it's installed by default, i just leaqrnt
[22:30] <tomreyn> so, fully patched?
[22:31] <luxio> not sure, how do I check?
[22:31] <tomreyn> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[22:32] <luxio> running that updated some packages
[22:32] <tomreyn> such as?
[22:32] <luxio> The following packages will be upgraded:
[22:32] <luxio>   curl firefox firefox-locale-en gnome-initial-setup gnome-keyring
[22:32] <luxio>   gnome-keyring-pkcs11 libcurl3-gnutls libcurl4 libpam-gnome-keyring
[22:32] <luxio>   python3-software-properties snapd software-properties-common
[22:32] <luxio>   software-properties-gtk
[22:33] <tomreyn> okay, maybe the snapd patch fixes it
[22:33] <luxio> should i reboot?
[22:33] <tomreyn> logout + login may suffice, but rebooting would ensure we know
[22:33] <luxio> ok. brb then
[22:34] <tomreyn> ok
[22:34] <luxio> pressing apostrophe, comma, question mark still lags
[22:35] <luxio> period too
[22:35] <luxio> and tick
[22:36] <tomreyn> luxio: whats your hardware?
[22:36] <tomreyn> are you saying this only happens on 18.04? did you try something else?
[22:36] <tomreyn> and does it happen on a live cd?
[22:36] <luxio> GTX 750Ti, Pentium G4560, SanDisk SSD
[22:37] <luxio> haven't tried livecd or other versions
[22:38] <tomreyn> from what i haerd there can be problems with nvidia on 18.04, also with X. i don't know the details, though.
[22:38] <tomreyn> luxio: "glxinfo -B" would show you the current state of graphics acceleration
[22:39] <tomreyn> (this is part of mesa-utils)
[22:41] <luxio> http://termbin.com/j5bb
[22:41] <angelgil> Hola.
[22:41] <luxio> !es | angelgil
[22:41] <gartral> luxio: proprietary or nuevou? also did you upgrade or clean install?
[22:41] <luxio> gartral: clean install
[22:41] <luxio> i think nouveau
[22:41] <luxio> OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
[22:41] <luxio> OpenGL renderer string: NV117
[22:41] <gartral> try the proprietary drivers
[22:41] <luxio> ok how do I do that?
[22:42] <gartral> !nvidia
[22:42] <luxio> ty
[22:43] <luxio> "Usually you will see a notification and/or an icon in the top panel, reminding you that restricted drivers are available."
[22:43] <luxio> "By clicking the icon you will be taken to a dialog where you can choose which version you want to install, choose the recommended driver. "
[22:43] <luxio> I don't get that notification
[22:43] <luxio> I think this article is outdated, that looks like Unity.
[22:47] <tomreyn> luxio: click on the bottm left icon, then type "drivers" and click on the "software & updates" icon
[22:47] <tomreyn> then on ther "additional drivers" tab
[22:49] <luxio> ok I'm on proprietary drivers now
[22:50] <luxio> same problem
[22:55] <tomreyn> luxio: try some live cd's, maybe a different OS, to rule out it's the hardware.
[22:56] <tomreyn> you can also post all of "dmesg" after a fresh boot.
[22:57] <tomreyn> and consider upgrading the bios / uefi
[23:01] <tomreyn> luxio: i'll have to leave it there, good luck.
[23:06] <luxio> dmesg after fresh boot: http://termbin.com/zskp
[23:06] <luxio> I tried a livecd. It happens on there.
[23:09] <Two_Dogs> luxio: what problem?
[23:11] <luxio> When I press comma, period, slash, apostrophe, or tilde (might be more), it lags for about half a second.
[23:12] <Two_Dogs> luxio: on live same issue?
[23:13] <luxio> yeah
[23:13] <hpjchobbes> Is there a reason/configuration that the Ubuntu Software app wouldn't find a package when searching, but it's found using apt-get?
[23:13] <Two_Dogs> luxio: your keyboard sucks
[23:14] <luxio> i paid $115 for this keyboard
[23:14] <Two_Dogs> get your money back luxio
[23:15] <Two_Dogs> hpjchobbes: what package?
[23:15] <hpjchobbes> kdbg
[23:15] <Two_Dogs> hpjchobbes: that has long name?
[23:16] <hpjchobbes> Not sure what you mean by long name?
[23:16] <hpjchobbes> It's a graphical front end for the GNU Debugger
[23:17] <luxio> Two_Dogs: I've found the problem. It's the "n-key rollover" switch on the keyboard.
[23:17] <luxio> When it's toggled on, I get the problem.
[23:17] <Two_Dogs> hpjchobbes: tried to search for 'graphical front end for the GNU Debugger'?
[23:17] <Two_Dogs> luxio: dont do that any more
[23:18] <Two_Dogs> hpjchobbes: perhaps the fancy software provider filters?
[23:24] <hpjchobbes> Two_Dogs: I think that must be it. Nothing standing out to me, though. I guess I'll just stick with the terminal
[23:24] <Two_Dogs> hpjchobbes: or synaptic gui, should see same results as cli
[23:28] <hpjchobbes> Installed synaptic and it's able to find it
[23:29] <RoadRunner> Pulse Audio doesn't detect the HDMI output on the video card
[23:31] <RoadRunner> to be exact, detects it only intermittently if mirroring to tv
[23:33] <RoadRunner> that's under Xubuntu 18.04; card PowerColor Radeon HD 5770
[23:42] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: what graphics driver?
[23:43] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: open source, the one installed by os
[23:44] <RoadRunner> the full card "name": PowerColor PCS+ AX5770 1GBD5-PPG Radeon HD 5770
[23:44] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: archwiki has wiki on amd/radeon hdmi audio
[23:45] <RoadRunner> I was wondering if its a bug with Pulse Audio, Radeon driver or card's firmware? I guess you are saying its likely the open source Radeon driver?
[23:46] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: don't suppose you have a link?
[23:47] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner archwiki amd/radeon hdmi audio https://git.io/vppVt
[23:50] <lapaga> RoadRunner, do you have pavucontrol installed?
[23:51] <RoadRunner> lapaga: don't even know what that is :)
[23:52] <RoadRunner> lapaga: I take it is  not installed with the default 18.04 install?
[23:52] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: pavuvcontrol is the go to tool/app for pulseaudio config
[23:52] <lapaga> sudo apt install pavucontrol
[23:52] <SlidingHorn> RoadRunner:    apt policy pavucontrol
[23:53] <SlidingHorn> RoadRunner: to clarify, lapaga's command will install - mine was just to see if it was installed
[23:53] <RoadRunner> give me a few mins to jump comps and try it
[23:54] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: I am a slow reader, your link above is recommending this course of action, I presume?
[23:55] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: i dont know if archwiki mentions pavucontrol, arch gets more into the nuts and bolts, i would say having 'pavucontrol' is a good thing, i prefer it to any other method of controlling pulseaudio server
[23:56] <RoadRunner> so this is a well known issue then?
[23:57] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: well known fact, radeon driver and hdmi audio dont play well
[23:57] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: but pavu has been known to fix it?
[23:58] <lapaga> RoadRunner, just install it and see...you have nothing to lose
[23:58] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: not sure, i dont have amd to plink on, if i saw in pavucontrol a configuration profile specific to amd/amdgpu/radeon that would go a long way to fixing issue though
[23:59] <RoadRunner> will do, thank you ;  just give some time to get it fugured out :)