[16:06] <dsmythies> pmatulis. There seems to be some other meeting going on in #ubuntu-meeting-2. There was last month also. Todays Doc team meeting is cancelled.
[16:48] <pmatulis> dsmythies: acknowledged
[17:00] <pleia2> didn't we move the meetings to -3 to avoid the clash? (I thought -doc was the reason we set up -3...)
[17:02] <pmatulis> pleia2: -3? another room?
[17:05] <pleia2> yeah, #ubuntu-meeting-3
[17:05] <pleia2> but now I'm wondering if I just made that up, since I don't see meetings there
[17:06] <pleia2> I guess -2 *was* the one we set up x_x my mistake
[17:07] <pmatulis> pleia2: yeah, you just made that up :)
[17:08] <pleia2> :D
[17:08] <pleia2> it's been a long... year
[17:58] <ahoneybun> hey
[18:10] <pmatulis> ahoneybun: morning
[18:10] <ahoneybun> afternoon
[18:10] <ahoneybun> pmatulis: ^


[18:01] <koolaidmini> I have 2 on my laptop, and Ive tried both.
[18:01] <Discordian93> anyway, how do I know which Ip and interface I have to use?
[18:02] <koolaidmini> Note, I have the 64bit version
[18:02] <MobiRushi> Checking connection thru mobile
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: tried 32bit ?
[18:03] <koolaidmini> I dont want to redownload..
[18:03] <koolaidmini> okay, so wait,
[18:03] <koolaidmini> How do I know if its the 12.10 live64?
[18:03] <Klaypex> ppl hawe loots of problems with 64. rly try 32.
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: the filename tells you
[18:03] <Traumatizer> Is there any way I can configure ubuntu to use dumb quotes(" " ) in stead of smart ones(¨ ¨)
[18:03] <Klaypex> kool did u download 64 filename or 32
[18:03] <koolaidmini> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Klaypex: yeah in the early releases, its no harder now, specially  with multiarch
[18:04] <Klaypex> thne is 64 bit
[18:04] <quick-> ActionParsnip:  ya others work.i am trying to use the pocketSphinx thats uses Open sound system(OSS)
[18:04] <koolaidmini> It doesnt say wether its the live version though.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Klaypex: thats 64bit. May as well try the 32bit
[18:04] <bluebeat09> anyone here experiencing unstable wifi connection ubuntu 12.10?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: its the desktop ISO, so will boot to the live desktop
[18:05] <Klaypex> hmm. well didnt try 64 for a loong time. 32 bits rly works like thunder =)
[18:05] <Discordian93> hello?
[18:05] <zero_coder> i cant boot ubuntu from the usb stick
[18:05] <Klaypex> did u install it corectly =)
[18:05] <koolaidmini> okay. I realized I might not have been mounting it correctly, but I believe I was.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Discordian93: the ip is the IP address of the router (internal ip) and the interface is the name of the interface used to connect to the web
[18:06] <MobiRushi> Zerocoder, how u made the usb bootable?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Discordian93: if its wired it will probably be eth0 and wifi may be wlan0 but these aren't hard and fast
[18:06] <zero_coder> MobiRushi : using windows diskpart
[18:06] <Discordian93> ok
[18:06] <Klaypex> try usb universal installer
[18:06] <bluebeat09> hello?
[18:06] <blackboxer> hello
[18:07] <zero_coder> but when i use to boot , the system says, no operating system found in the drive
[18:07] <MobiRushi> Zero, it works for me using universal usb installer
[18:07] <Klaypex> u change in BIOS to load usb first ?
[18:07] <zero_coder> yep
[18:07] <zero_coder> thts when it says.
[18:07] <Klaypex> try usb universall installer
[18:07] <bluebeat09> need some help please, im experiencing very unstable wifi connection.... any suggestions?
[18:07] <zero_coder> no os found in the device
[18:07] <Klaypex> works like eating nutella
[18:08] <koolaidmini> What does the mobi.exe do?
[18:08] <MobiRushi> Also, you can try unetbootin, but univ usb installr works in all cases
[18:08] <koolaidmini> or sorry, wube.exe
[18:08] <koolaidmini> or sorry, wube.exe
[18:08] <Daro> Hi all i have problem with libpam anybody know gui for this program, or any alternative?
[18:08] <koolaidmini> woops, double.
[18:08] <MobiRushi> Bluebeat, which manufacturer is ur lappy?
[18:08] <FloodBot1> koolaidmini: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <koolaidmini> wubi*
[18:08] <rye> koolaidmini: what system are you using to create the bootable stick?
[18:08] <koolaidmini> Accident..
[18:09] <bluebeat09> mobirushi, asus
[18:09] <koolaidmini> im using unetbootin
[18:09] <rye> koolaidmini: under what operating system?
[18:09] <Klaypex> ok. try usb universal installers
[18:09] <MobiRushi> Bluebeat, maybe you need a driver for ur lappy..not sure
[18:09] <koolaidmini> windows 7, home edition, 64b
[18:10] <truerocker_redhe> ok so i ran unetbootin and selected the 11.10 netinstall it downloaded unpacked asked me to reboot and then absolutely nothing happened. what the hell?
[18:10] <Klaypex> 11.10 or 12.10
[18:10] <truerocker_redhe> 12.10 sorry
[18:10] <Daro> yes for creating usb stick its really hard on linux i try and know if any gui program not works good
[18:10] <Klaypex> donwlaod 12.10 manuali. 32 bit. install it with usb universal installer
[18:10] <bluebeat09> but if it was a driver problem, would it connect at all?
[18:11] <Daro> on windows work fine usb uniwersall installer and LiLi
[18:11] <Traumatizer> Is there any way I can configure ubuntu to use dumb quotes(" " ) in stead of smart ones(¨ ¨)
[18:12] <truerocker_redhe> i have it downloaded, don't have a usb or dvd at moment with enough space, anyway around that
[18:12] <Klaypex> well unboot can install directly on hard drive. from windows ofc
[18:13] <truerocker_redhe> whats windows ofc?
[18:13] <Klaypex> what main sistem u use
[18:13] <Klaypex> os ^^
[18:13] <truerocker_redhe> ubuntu 12.04
[18:13] <rye> koolaidmini: is universal usb installer failing for you too?
[18:14] <Klaypex> oh. well. try unboot. he can install OS on some partition/hard if u hawe free one
[18:14] <Klaypex> i think he still can
[18:14] <JohnSmith82> Hello, if anyone got basic knowledge of bash scripts I could use some help with a (very) simple script. Shouldn't take more than 2-3 mins to do it. http://pastebin.com/crRFVbzw Thank's in advance.
[18:14] <xentity1x> Hi, my tty screens are black when I switch to them
[18:15] <Klaypex> but best is to install it on usb and then install on hdd
[18:15] <xentity1x> Can someone tell me how I can fix that
[18:15] <Traumatizer> Is there any way I can configure ubuntu to use dumb quotes(" " ) in stead of smart ones(¨ ¨)
[18:16] <sardior> Problem with Nautilus hanging when cutting and pasting files, hangs after moving a few of them.
[18:16] <sardior> Dolphin seems to work fine.
[18:16] <rye> Traumatizer: Ubuntu is an operating system, you may be referring to some application. Where do you see the quotes changing?
[18:17] <bluebeat09> unstable wifi connection- disconnects every now and then, have to manually disable wifi network and then enable it to regain connection
[18:17] <bluebeat09> any suggestions
[18:17] <bluebeat09> please...
[18:17] <JohnSmith82> Anyone got time to help me with the very simple bash script? should just check what number is in a file and then overwrite the number, so should be very easy to do
[18:18] <rye> bluebeat09: if youare running 802.11n network then there may be some driver issues (seen that on ath9k), downgrading to 801.11g has solved mine but YMMV
[18:19] <bluebeat09> thx rye, will try
[18:20] <Traumatizer> Rye, I know that but it applies to the whole operating system.  Not the smart ones. I suspect I need another  keyboard layout but don't know which one
[18:20] <sardior> Ok... try again later.
[18:20] <ubuntujo> I'm having massive write perfomance issues on my 12.10: 2 different drives (1TB, 150GB), Read 100MB/s, write 1MB/s, both on SATA, and on SATA over USB (same drive on external adapter); but the drive performs fine on a different machine. Any thoughts?
[18:21] <xentity1x> Hi, my tty screens are black when I switch to them. Any suggestions?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> bluebeat09: which wifi chip?
[18:21] <Cong> lubuntu doesn't have anything to handle fonts.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Cong: in what way handle?
[18:21] <tion> 33
[18:22] <Cong> ActionParsnip, how do I install them? Put them in ~/fonts?
[18:22] <rye> JohnSmith82: Have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/168197 - maybe there is a more standar dway
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Cong: i have a full font set in linbreoffice, they are handling well here
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | Cong
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Cong: the font mechanism is identical across all 'buntus
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Cong: add font in /usr/share/fonts/truetype   and run: sudo fc-cache -f -v
[18:23] <hpfrantzy5> nice, what implications does BlueSystems supporting Kubuntu have on the project? As frustrated I am with unity and ubuntu, Canonical does have the right connections
[18:23] <JohnSmith82> rye: it's when i changed to LXDE then my function keys stopped working. i've downloaded samsung-tools and my function keys work in xfce and gnome classic, but its a netbook so resources are low so LXDE were better for me
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Cong: works in Ubuntu, kubuntu, Xubuntu, Backtrack, you name iy
[18:24] <Cong> ActionParsnip, about last time, thanks. I just went with the firmware-b43-installer.
[18:24] <Daro> lxde is greater on debian
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Cong: cool :)
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Daro: debian is a distro, lxde is a desktop, you can't compare the two
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Daro: you can run lxde on debian, the statement makes no sense
[18:25] <Daro> distro is software package compilation! and ubuntu god works name him distro ubuntu, lubutu, kubuntu etc
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Daro: then you probably meant Lubuntu is better than debian
[18:26] <Daro> always can install other evntorment writing apt-get install XXX ;)
[18:26] <Cong> I think he meant lxde + ubuntu is great.
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Daro: i know, i've used ubuntu and linux for a long while. i'm also an ubuntu member :)
[18:26] <rye> JohnSmith82: i guess you can base your script on this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_R505_Aura
[18:27] <Daro> no im really think if debian have beter configuration for lite eventorment
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Daro: it can, install debian cli only and then install fluxbox, slim and wicd. Super light OS, not even a DE taking up resources
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Daro: you are forgetting the flexibility of the OS
[18:29] <dpupp> hmm
[18:29] <Daro> flexibility hmm, I can always install a third-party add-ons one does not defend me
[18:29] <dpupp> My menu bar and status bar have gone missing ... Any ideas what to try to restore them?
[18:30] <ozpy> Hi. I Installed Ubuntu  on Windows 8 (Created a partition from windows. 2) Disabled UEFI. 3) Installed using USB. 4) Instalation succesful). I rebooted my laptop and now just logs into widows 8. No grub menu
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Daro: all 3 packages are in the official repos. how is that 3rd party?
[18:31] <Daro> is the ability to enable and added three companies
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Daro: if you use the open source apps from the official ubuntu repos, it is not 3rd party
[18:32] <Daro> for example, do not like and I use gnash flash player is available in the repo without adding anything
[18:32] <dpupp> after getting my nvidia card drivers working, everything seems to be working fine, except my menu bar and status bar are now missing from the desktop.
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Daro: that is nothing to do with what we are talking about
[18:33] <rye> ozpy: you may want to check that grub was indeed installed on the hard drive and not the USB drive (seen this happened in virtual machines)
[18:33] <Daro> canconical is a 3rd party company
[18:33] <Achillion> Hello all. I'm running an 12.04 as a file server + media centre + other stuff. Once in a while I come home to find it completely turned off and not responding to wake-on-lan. Logs don't show anything out of the ordinary, not even an entry showing that the system is shutting down. Any ideas what I should look for?
[18:34] <rye> dpupp: i am not sure what you are referring to as a menu bar and status bar and what desktop you are referring to
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Daro: not when you are using Ubuntu, it is the 1st party for its users as it hosts the packages
[18:34] <Achillion> Sorry for the vagueness of my question, but I wouldn't be asking if I knew where to look
[18:34] <ozpy> rye: Can you tell me how to check that?
[18:34] <mark2013> I have an HD HomeRun Dual ATSC tuner. That connects to the Ubuntu Precise Pangolin ver. 12.04 via ethernet. My ubuntu does not handshake and MythTV finds no tuner cards. Device is working in Win7 w/o problem. MythTV has both working front/back end servers. How can I make handshake?
[18:35] <rye> ozpy: unfortunately the only way is to attempt to reinstall again and see what device is selected for grub installation - you will need to do manual partitioning for this
[18:35] <rye> Achillion: what's the setting for a power failure in BIOS, is it possible that the power simply went down?
[18:35] <dpupp> rye, in gnome i am missing the bottom desktop bar that shows running apps,  and top desktop bar where application menus are 0_0..
[18:35] <Daro> yes
[18:35] <rye> dpupp: what Ubuntu version are you running?
[18:35] <ozpy> Rye: Does it matter if the partition is not in the end or beggining?
[18:36] <ozpy> Rye: My linux partition is in the middle
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Daro: so how is Canonical 3rd party to it's users?
[18:36] <ubuntujo> Achillion: does your cleaning lady use that socket to plug in the vacuum cleaner?
[18:36] <Daro> no for me its 3rd party
[18:36] <Daro> i using debian
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Daro: debian isnn't supported here
[18:36] <Daro> with lxde
[18:37] <Daro> i know
[18:37] <rye> ozpy: I've seen some systems failing to boot when it was beyond first 1 GB (and that's in 2012, yeah...) but grub should be able to access its files. If grub is installed but not able to run then Windows would not boot as well
[18:37] <Achillion> rye: Other stuff in the house (and on the same multiplug extension) dont go down. For instance the router is plugged in on the same socket and I would notice if it went down. I even check the uptime.
[18:37] <Achillion> ubuntujo: :) no cleaning lady unfortunately
[18:37] <dpupp> rye, 10.04 ubuntu
[18:37] <rye> ozpy: therefore I think the bootloader was not installed in the proper location
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Daro: and mixing ubuntu repos in debian will cause a big mess
[18:38] <Achillion> Is it safe to assume that the lack of any kind of message in the logs points to a power failure -> instant shutdown?
[18:38] <rye> dpupp: I am afraid i don't remember how to add the panels in this case
[18:39] <dpupp> rye, I was messing around in synaptic and I might have unchecked something is hould not have. >_< and then I did an apt-get autoremove ... and the next time i rebooted... gone.
[18:39] <rye> Achillion: kernel panic would also leave no traces but the system will not power down unless there is a thermal setting in bios which shuts down everything when system overheats. So if system locked up, started using all the CPU... etc
[18:39] <rye> dpupp: ah, install ubuntu-desktop package
[18:39] <dpupp> OK will try that.
[18:39] <rye> dpupp: you can run terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T
[18:39] <Daro> installing frob deb packages
[18:39] <TexNixk> Achillion : you might monitor your CPU temperature ... if it's overheating that could cause a shutdown
[18:40] <Daro> or compile from soruce code
[18:40] <jhutchins> Achillion: Power sounds likely to me.  What about putting it on a UPS?
[18:40] <Daro> ;)
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Daro: what do you mean?
[18:40] <Achillion> rye, TexNixk: I've been stress testing using "stress" for the past 20 minutes. Temps and voltages look fine.
[18:40] <Achillion> Maybe I'll just check the cabling
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Daro: saying randomn stuff doesn't do anything, no is it a question
[18:40] <ozpy> Rye: As a summary:  Option  (1) I should reinstall ubuntu from USB. It does not matter if the partion is in the middle. Option (2) Can I install just the bootloader with the USB?
[18:41] <ubuntujo> Achillion: PSU overheat and safety shutdown?
[18:42] <rye> ozpy: 1 - no, 2 - yes, you will need to chroot from within USB installer and install grub manually
[18:42] <tdignan> Unity is grabbing Alt+Enter. I don't see anything in ccsm under ubuntu unity plugin. It is using the keybinding to maximize windows. I want it to release control of this keybinding to applications. How can I do that?
[18:42] <rye> ActionParsnip: are you able to look at the logs of the router
[18:43] <rye> ActionParsnip: .. sorry, look at the logs of the router to see when the link went down
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> rye: wrong target?
[18:43] <rye> ActionParsnip: yes, sorry again
[18:43] <rye> Achillion: are you able to check router logs to see when the link went down?
[18:44] <ubuntujo> tdignan: shortcut in System settings > Keyboard ?
[18:44] <tdignan> Perhaps it's not unity but X, I don't know. How do I see what program is holding alt+enter?
[18:44] <tdignan> oh?
[18:44] <tdignan> damn, the obvious place :P
[18:44]  * rye is fairly sure we are not grabbing Alt+Enter
[18:44] <tdignan> let me take a look
[18:44] <jordy> ubuntu brasil
[18:44] <tdignan> rye: then I have no idea how to explain why alt+enter maximizes: xterm, terminator, gnome-terminal, and idea
[18:44] <jordy> alguem do brasil ae ?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> rye: no worries dude :)
[18:45] <ozpy> Rye: So once Grub is installed manually, It won't messed up and I will access my Windows 8 partition?.. This new UEFI really made it harder to install Ubuntu
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> !br
[18:45] <rye> tdignan: what version and desktop environment are you running?
[18:45] <tdignan> rye: 12.10, quantal, latest everything, unity.
[18:45] <Vi> hey guys, is there a dedicated channel on irc for security matters ?
[18:46] <tw> How do I make radvd send a single host route? this is what I've been trying: http://pastebin.ca/2303993 but I don't get the route on the client: http://pastebin.ca/2303997 (ubuntu 12.04.1)
[18:46] <tdignan> rye: does it do the same for you if you hit alt+enter on an xterm?
[18:47] <rye> ozpy: unfortunately I am not able to answer this definitely, I don't have a UEFI machine. But installing grub should put a bootloader and update-grub should find another installed OS.
[18:47] <rye> tdignan: no, it is definitely not a default setting
[18:47] <tdignan> rye: :|
[18:47] <tdignan> rye: then somehow I made it happen
[18:47] <tdignan> any idea how to track it down?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Vi: security of what?
[18:49] <Vi> actionparsnip honeypots
[18:49] <rye> tdignan: hackish approach - conf dump / | grep --colour=always -C 10 '<Alt>'
[18:49] <ozpy> Rye: I'm not that expert on installing Grub. Do you have a link or instruction for this matter?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Vi: #vmware maybe
[18:50] <Vi> actionparsnip ty
[18:50] <tdignan> rye: perfect :)
[18:50] <rye> ozpy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:50] <rye> tdignan: please let me know if it is somewhere there, just curious
[18:51] <tdignan> rye: where do I get 'conf'?
[18:51] <rye> tdignan: argh... it's --- dconf dump / | grep --colour=always -C 10 '<Alt>'
[18:51] <tdignan> ah, thanks
[18:51] <Achillion> rye: Yes, I saw when the link went down, which is how I know there's nothing out of the ordinary in the ubuntu logs for that time
[18:52] <Achillion>  < ubuntujo> Achillion: PSU overheat and safety shutdown? -> could be, I'm afraid
[18:53] <tdignan> rye, here it is: [org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/grid]
[18:53] <tdignan> put-maximize-key='<Alt>Return'
[18:53] <rye> tdignan: great!
[18:53] <tdignan> thanks a million
[18:54] <ubuntujo> tdignan: do you have the compiz setting editor GUI, or can you just change the config files?
[18:54] <tdignan> ubuntujo: i've got ccsm, i'm going to try and figure out what it is in there, but I'm comfortable editing files
[18:54] <tdignan> i'd prefer to know what it was that I did in ccsm to cause this mayhem
[18:55] <tdignan> so i'm gonna go that route
[18:55] <ubuntujo> ok :)
[18:55] <TexNixk> Achillion : while you're checking your cables ... make sure there isn't a fuzz-ball between the CPU heat sink & Fan ... might a loose piece of fuzz sometimes gets sucked into the fan stopping it ... also make powersupply vents are free
[18:55] <ubuntujo> didn't know if you knew of ccsm :)
[18:55] <iamatt> hello can someone explain in short detail high overview of what it will take to create local repo so i can install packages on a cluster that does not have internet access
[18:56] <disharmonic> hi
[18:56] <iamatt> are all of the deb packages in /ubuntu/pool/main/
[18:56] <rye> tdignan: the configuration is now stored in dconf which is a big binary blob accessible by dconf api, you may want to use ccsm since there is not much fun in dconf cli app :)
[18:56] <iamatt> on the http site
[18:57] <faffaro> Hi guys, what it wrong with screen with big capitals
[18:57] <faffaro> I get this: SCREEN: command not found
[18:57] <disharmonic> I'm having issues playing anything in Minitube. Any ideas?
[18:57] <iamatt> i have a rack of armv7 servers running ubuntu  that i need to install some basic crap like ypbnd nis packages etc
[18:57] <disharmonic> Ubuntu 12.04 64bit btw
[18:57] <compdoc> iamatt, I love apt-cacher-ng, but I dont know if you can populate the cache by hand
[18:57] <Achillion> TexNixk: Will do, thanks!
[18:57] <iamatt> they do not have inet access so i need local repo
[18:57] <tdignan> rye: agreed. ccsm is a bit more descriptive.
[18:57] <rye> faffaro: where do you see capital SCREEN ?
[18:58] <iamatt> compdoc these systems are the only ubuntu in our data center they are  research systems  i need to create the repos without ubuntu
[18:58] <disharmonic> The issue is that playback doesn't start
[18:58] <tdignan> it was the window management -> grid checkbox
[18:58] <iamatt> compdoc i am rsyncing the packages now and will sneakernet to our secure network and then how to build the index files...
[18:58] <tdignan> thanks again, this has made it possible for me to use intellij comfortably again
[18:58] <faffaro> rye, I've a startup script. But it doesn't "startup" - but when I type: ps x I see the screen written with big letters.. and I tried it manually and it didn't work until I changed
[18:58] <TexNixk> Achillion : seems strange it only happens when you are gone ... you don't have a pet that could be playing with cords ?
[18:59] <compdoc> iamatt, there may be proxy servers with caching abilites
[18:59] <compdoc> ooops, nm - thats internet releated too
[18:59] <rye> faffaro: that's ok, applications can rename their name and this just tells that it is a parent screen process
[18:59] <iamatt> compdoc we are a secure  entity and cannot reach outside internet directly
[18:59] <rye> iamatt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors ?
[19:00] <iamatt> rye i need to build internal repo
[19:00] <iamatt> i am downloading the packages now  to usb drive..
[19:00] <faffaro> rye, ok nice.. but how come it doesn't start automatic the script. I do need to retype it again.
[19:00] <iamatt> i do not know what to do  after i  download the  intenet repo to make the index files   i know in rhel you would do a crepo
[19:01] <ubuntujo> Any advice on tracking down a super slow HDD writes? 1MiB/s writes acc. to dd (yeah, one meg)
[19:02] <vlt> ubuntujo: dd to what of
[19:02] <vlt> _
[19:02] <vlt> ?
[19:02] <ubuntujo> vlt: dd if=/dev/zero of=foobar bs=10M count=100
[19:03] <ubuntujo> vlt: reading is 100MB/s
[19:03] <vlt> ubuntujo: This is not a harddisk, this looks like a file in a file system.
[19:04] <ubuntujo> vlt: /dev/zero spawns null data (magic file)
[19:04] <vlt> ubuntujo: What's mounted where the file foobar is written to?
[19:04] <ubuntujo> my ext4 partition
[19:05] <ubuntujo> vlt: my ext4 partition. I should add that both HDDs and several partitions do this
[19:05] <billybob000> im having an issue where the dns name resolution takes a long time
[19:05] <vlt> ubuntujo: iostat from pkg sysstat
[19:05] <ubuntujo> vlt: and if I put the drive on USB, same thing
[19:06] <ubuntujo> vlt: but on usb to a different PC, 30M/sec (limited by usb)
[19:06] <blkadder> billybob000: Do you control the DNS server?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> billybob000: tried a different DNS?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> billybob000: could try namebench, find the fastest DNS servers for where you are
[19:07] <billybob000> blkadder: unforuntalye i dont
[19:08] <billybob000> ActionParsnip: it doesn't make sense.. the dns name resoltion is slow only on my ubuntu box, but not on my windows box
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> billybob000: try other DNS servers, see if its the same#
[19:08] <blkadder> billybob000: dig is your friend.
[19:08] <chriscross> hey - can anyone assist with "no sound" using Ubuntu 12.10 on an HP xw4400?
[19:09] <rhin0> hi - installation failed (powercut) during install onto ssd - now I get a blank "prepare partitions" table (xubuntu)#
[19:09] <rhin0> can't install
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[19:10] <chriscross> hang on - lemme check
[19:10] <cyril4133> I have a firmware problem, can sbd help?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> zhanger: remake the USB stick and reinstall
[19:10] <Sysaxed> any command line tool to identify a song by giving it an mp3 file? Like shazam but for linux command line
[19:11] <ubuntujo> vlt: iostat 10 -> 2nd report (delta): 17% iowait (8-core machine) 1332 kB_wrtn/s
[19:12] <blkadder> billybob000: dig +trace host.
[19:13] <chriscross> ActionParsnip: looks like there are no soundcards on the system
[19:13] <chriscross> But it was working under Windows XP
[19:13] <chriscross> Sounds like install didn't recognize the sound hardware
[19:14] <chriscross> hang on...
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: can you give the generated url please
[19:14] <chriscross> that's what is recognized by ALSA - no sound cards
[19:14] <chriscross> sure, hang on...
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: that;s why I asked for the output, not your interpretation
[19:17] <root__> \list
[19:17] <chriscross> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b25b9179b0f5bfefe6ab6f9d646817825a755ac2
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: is the OS fully updated?
[19:19] <chriscross> ActionParsnip - how can I check?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:19] <chriscross> ok, hang on
[19:20] <ClientAlive> With gnome 3 on ubuntu 12.04 server, is it possible to save a desktop session? (not sure you call it that).
[19:20] <ubuntujo> vlt: thx anyways
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: why diodn't you just install the desktop OS?
[19:21] <chriscross> ActionParsnip: It's updating now.
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: updates fix a lot
[19:21] <ClientAlive> <ActionPar
[19:21] <ClientAlive> sorry
[19:22] <ClientAlive> I don't like unity I like gnome but I need a soln to a certain problem now
[19:23] <rye> ClientAlive: no, session saving is mostly nonexistent in all desktop environments. KDE tries to but applications don't usually comply
[19:23] <ClientAlive> I see
[19:24] <k1l> !away > chiluk
[19:24] <rye> ClientAlive: however I may be wrong as to what you refer as saving the session
[19:24] <ClientAlive> rye: Would something like that be easy enough to implement with scripts?
[19:24] <blkadder> ClientAlive: However installing a VM and using a decent VM manager makes it pretty easy to save most state.
[19:24] <ErdMutter> Would anyone have any suggestions for Mac software that could be used to flash the ubuntu iso to a usb storage device? I am running Mac OS X Mountain Lion. Also, which ubuntu ISO am I to use? Is it the normal 64 bit version, or is there one built for macs?
[19:25] <meet> how do i delete folder on the home directory
[19:25] <AceFace> hello all!
[19:25] <blkadder> meet: rm
[19:26] <ClientAlive> rye: There are some issues with my system that I need to deal with but I have all kind of applications launched, docments open, tabs in firefox open - been working on something for a while now. If it turns out I'll need to restart the computer (and I probably will) I don't wnat to lose all that.
[19:26] <blkadder> ClientAlive: Use a VM.
[19:26] <sako0938> Can anyone help with an iptables issue?
[19:26] <blkadder> sako0938: Perhaps.
[19:26] <rye> ErdMutter: re: what disk - 64bit should work on macs, and here's how you burn it - http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[19:26] <AceFace> i have a quick question, for those that are familiar with windows cmd, there is the "start" command which will spawn the command you specify and let it "run in the background" allowing you continue with the shell for other commands. is there an equivalent for bash?
[19:27] <blkadder> Yes.
[19:27] <blkadder> command &
[19:27] <rye> AceFace: run with & at the end to put task in background
[19:27] <ClientAlive> blkadder: that may be a bigger undertaking than I'm willing to engage in atm. Thanks though for offering a soln.  :)
[19:27] <AceFace> thanks blkadder!
[19:27] <AceFace> thanks rye
[19:28] <blkadder> ClientAlive: Np. I am using Virtualbox with Ubuntu as a VM and it does a great job of saving state.
[19:28] <sako0938> Im on a macbook and I was broadcasting a wired connection over wireless on OS X. Now on ubuntu it says I have eth0 and eth2, but no ath0 to broadcast with
[19:28] <rye> ClientAlive: in case of a failure firefox does restore the tabs on next start but that's pretty much all, there is no session store mechanism and every application is on its own to implement this.
[19:29] <blkadder> sako0938: What does that have to do with iptables?
[19:30] <Metalmurphy> Hi everyone. I'm having a weird problem. I just installed ubuntu 10.0 (old DVD I had), figured I'd just update to newest release instead of burning a new dvd. Anynway when I wasn't able to update I rebooted back to Windows 7, and now my network adapter only works at 10Mbps Full Duplex. It keeps disconnecting on any other setting. I have no idea why this is happening.
[19:30] <sako0938> Ive been reading that I should use iptables to forward the connection. I guess the issue is that lack of ath0, so any thoughts on that?
[19:30] <blkadder> sako0938: You are running Ubuntu on your macbook?
[19:30] <ClientAlive> I found this: http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/2.32/prefs-sessions.html.en  <- but doesn't seem like they're telling you how to do it, just that you can (then again, this may be old and not referring to the current version of gnome)
[19:30] <sako0938> yea, i have the 3rd party driver running also
[19:31] <meet> i was trying ubuntu builder but removed it. It has created a 1gb sized folder on the home directory. how do i delete that? I am getting directory not empty error
[19:31] <blkadder> sako0938: Well first you need to get it to see your wireless NIC.
[19:31] <ioria> meet : rm-rif
[19:31] <blkadder> No an iptables issue....
[19:31] <rhin0> partial install - can't see partition table now - how to get fdisk to recognise ssd?  need to see ssd fdisk -l = nothing
[19:31] <rhin0> please
[19:31] <ioria> meet : rm -rif
[19:31] <rye> ClientAlive: it is really an application job to do this at the moment
[19:31] <AceFace> rye, blkadder: it worked, thanks guys
[19:31] <MichaelP> Can i put a partition at the beginning of a 1 TB usb harddrive.. use unetbootin to put ubuntu on that patition ?
[19:32] <meet> ioria:  i tried rm -r but it is not deleting.
[19:32] <Vi> hey all, im in a ubuntu terminal, connected to a firewall that is connected to my router. how can i access my firewall configuration files?
[19:32] <ioria> meet : enter the folder and rm *
[19:32] <LambdaDusk> does anyone know how I can raise the volume of videos? I just encoded a bunch for my phone but some are very low, others are fine and I want to equalise the volume on them
[19:32] <rye> MichaelP: uhm, you can install ubuntu on an external usb harddrive
[19:32] <sako0938> how would i do that? I have internet so doesnt it already recognize the NIC
[19:32] <ClientAlive> rye: What do you mean?
[19:32] <blkadder> Vi: That depends.
[19:32] <rye> meet: why isn't GUI working for you?
[19:33] <Vi> blkadder, how do you mean?
[19:33] <blkadder> Vi: Are you using iptables?
[19:33] <MichaelP> rye, i just wanted to patition a usb harddrive and treat that partition as if it was a ubuntu usb stick
[19:33] <rye> ClientAlive: i mean that while there appears to be an infrastructure for this, it is largerly unused and there are no plans (as far as I know) to mandate its support
[19:33] <Vi> blkadder, im learning, and i need to deliver proof to my teacher that there is portforwarding in the firewall (for use of a honeypot)
[19:34] <blkadder> Vi: I am going to take that as a yes.
[19:34] <MichaelP> or will i have to do it on a usb stick that way
[19:34] <blkadder> iptables -L -v
[19:34] <Vi> blkadder, im pretty certain he uses ip tables yes
[19:34] <Vi> blkadder, thank you , lets see what that does
[19:34] <hilo> Is there a way to use mount --bind so that I can change the apparent permissions without actually changing them?
[19:35] <hbyte> 4 nfs
[19:35] <Vi> blkadder, i geuss not. Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
[19:35] <Vi>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[19:35] <Vi> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
[19:35] <Vi>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[19:35] <Vi> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
[19:35] <Vi>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[19:35] <FloodBot1> Vi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <meet> rye:  it's not showing the delete or move to trash option in gui
[19:35] <rye> MichaelP: you can do this, yes, but you will need to manually write the image, create additional partitions but I've not done that
[19:36] <ClientAlive> rye: What you said there, that's what is confusing me by seeing that web page. It says: "Use the Session Options tabbed section..." which makes me think there is some interface to be found. wtf?
[19:36] <blkadder> Vi: What that is telling you is that iptables is not in use or not configured.
[19:36] <blkadder> Vi: So if it is acting as a firewall you need to determine what it is using for firewall software.
[19:37] <Vi> blkadder, yes indeed.
[19:37] <rye> ClientAlive: unfortunately the interface there is just an interface for applications that comply to the standard that gnome 2 uses. I am fairly sure there is even no session tab in gnome 3.
[19:37] <ClientAlive> rye: That web page is, apparently, in the "user-guide" (base on part of the url)
[19:37] <ClientAlive> rye: I see
[19:37] <MichaelP> rye, yeah unetbootin only see's thumb drive.. don't see the usn harddrive.... I just wanted to boot from it sence it's faster... But i'll use the thumb drive
[19:37] <Metalmurphy> Just found out two people with the exact same problem as me ( http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=71827 ), it's definetly Ubuntu related. This is so weird. hard booting the pc didn't work for me though.
[19:37] <ClientAlive> oh welllll....
[19:37] <ioria> meet : what's the ls -l  folder ?
[19:37] <rhin0> can't see ssd
[19:38] <rye> MichaelP: hm, i had exactly the opposite results for a flash drive vs hdd over USB, flash drive read speeds surpassed HDD ones
[19:38] <ZenMasta> is it possible to search for files based on a date range which they might have been modified?
[19:39] <hbyte> ls -lrt
[19:40] <rye> Metalmurphy: there may be an issue where linux driver puts a card in some state and windows driver does not reset it. Usually unplugging the machine and removing battery (if present) should clear the NIC's RAM
[19:40] <sako0938> Alright I looked at it says my wireless is connected under eth2.  Does there directions here:( http://www.howtoforge.com/internet-connection-sharing-masquerading-on-linux ) work? My install says iptables is not a service?
[19:40] <Metalmurphy> by battery, do u mean the rom one?
[19:40] <Vi> blkadder how do i go about this -_- sorry
[19:40] <Metalmurphy> or laptops one
[19:40] <rye> Metalmurphy: laptop's one
[19:41] <blkadder> Vi: ps -aef might be a good start.
[19:41] <Metalmurphy> desktop pc so dont have that. I'll try turning off the PSU.
[19:41] <Metalmurphy> thanks
[19:41] <ClientAlive> rye: why would they make it in a way that other apps need to comply? Afaik, if I type the path to the executable on the command line (often just the app's name) it will lanuch it. I'm also pretty sure a bash script would be capable of saving and restoring anythihng that is going on inside any application. I'm sure an interface for all that could be made to interact with all that too. Why wouldn't gnome just do what works? Makes no sense
[19:41] <ClientAlive> to me.
[19:41] <blkadder> Vi: Or perhaps asking the person responsible for the machine?
[19:42] <MichaelP> rye, my usb hdd is usb 3.0... hdd inside is 5400 rpm... flashdrives i have are usb 2.0
[19:42] <Vi> blkadder, heh, hes the kind of guy that prefers i figure it out myself.
[19:42] <Traumatizer> Hey rye, you're a pretty cool guy. Been on this chat for about 2 hours and you've helped a lot of people since than with their problems :)
[19:42] <blkadder> Vi: But you're really not, are you?
[19:43] <rhin0> gparted won't see my ssd - why not (anyone)#
[19:43] <Vi> blkadder,  not by a longshot, but geuss its the only way we'll learn wont we.
[19:43] <blkadder> Vi: Asking us to feed you commands isn't what I would consider "figuring it out by myself." :-)
[19:44] <Vi> blkadder, no its not . but i write the commands down and look them up, read the man pages and try to learn from them.
[19:44] <blkadder> Vi: So what makes you think this machine is acting as a firewall?
[19:44] <monod> Ubuntu. Is. Really. Challenging. My. Ability. To. Stand it.
[19:44] <Vi> blkadder its not, thats why i just figured out  i wouldnt find anything in ps -aef
[19:45] <monod> every damn day I have no damn sound out of my pc.
[19:45] <Vi> from what i figured out it should be  host------ firewall ----- router  / im on the host machine, but in the internal network.
[19:46] <monod> I'm exploding, I don't know what the hell do I have to do
[19:46] <rhin0> nobody can help me see my ssd fdisk -l no longer shows it
[19:46] <meet> for a little while I tried the login without password option from the user account settings. But now i am unable to revert back to the original.
[19:46] <TexNixk> !language | monod
[19:46] <rye> rhin0: if SSD is compliant to ATA/SATA standard then it's not something linux would work with. Is it visible in BIOS/setup?
[19:46] <rhin0> it was working
[19:46] <rhin0> partial installation failed
[19:46] <rhin0> now it won't install
[19:47] <TexNixk> !details | monod
[19:48] <trijntje> Hi all, I need some advice on installing ubuntu on a new Acer laptop. 1) I cant seem to get in the bios using F2 or F12. 2) If I just place the usb stick in the laptop it keeps cycling through the first bootup sequence. Who can help me sort this out?
[19:48] <rye> rhin0: if it does not detect a drive when nothing else has changed _and_ BIOS does find the drive then this may be a bug. However, based on the available data some SSD drives _do_ die suddenly and can not be detected either by BIOS or OS, some can be recovered by firmware upgrade so you should check whether your drive can be detected by BIOS
[19:49] <rhin0> ok ty
[19:49] <ZenMasta> hbyte thanks for that, but I don't know the actual name of the file that's modified so I'm trying to find amongst many directories any files that were modified between say Jan 1 - Jan 10 etc
[19:49] <craigbass1976> Someone hosed their desktop.  How (on 12.04) can someone remove and reinstall unity?
[19:49]  * rye wants to get a UEFI device just to see this beast
[19:49] <TexNixk> trijntje : does the keyboard have a function lock key
[19:50] <trijntje> TexNixk: you mean Fn key? It has
[19:51] <TexNixk> trijntje : you are pressing it before you attempt to enter bios ?
[19:51] <trijntje> TexNixk: no, should I try booting pressing only Fn?
[19:52] <TexNixk> as soon as pc powers hit the fn key then the function key required to enter bios :)
[19:53] <trijntje> TexNixk: I'll try, thanks
[19:53] <rye> trijntje: does the machine actually print anything upon bootup that says how to enter the setup?
[19:53] <TexNixk> trijntje : bios is set to quick boot ... you might need to be kinda fast to do it
[19:54] <TexNixk> if bios *
[19:54] <trijntje> TexNixk: it does look like fast boot, I dont see any messages at all, just an Acer splash screen
[19:54] <rye> trijntje: what's the model of the laptop?
[19:55] <TexNixk> trijntje : ok be quick then :)
[19:55] <trijntje> rye: Acer E1-531
[19:56] <evon> can anyone hear me?
[19:57] <trijntje> evon: yeah ;)
[19:57] <trijntje> TexNixk: no luck
[19:57] <LambdaDusk> can anyone tell me how I can increase the audio volume using avconv, please
[19:58] <trijntje> TexNixk: wohoo, I'm in the bios, no idea which key it was :D
[19:58] <evon> I've been trying to get Cs5 running on my amd64bit system all day.  Here's the error i get when i try to run photoshop http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1542412/
[19:59] <evon> pretty please help. i'm desperate
[19:59] <evon> trijntje: usually del, or F2 gets you into the bios
[19:59] <sako0938> Im using firestarter and (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless) I've made it a ways down the procedure but when I restart networking it says it cant bring eth2 online? It says set failed on eth2, invalid argument.
[20:00] <trijntje> evon: what guide are you using to run photoshop on ubuntu? I didn't know that was supported
[20:01] <trijntje> TexNixk: thanks for your help, the bios has an option to enable F12 for boot menu, so that should solve it
[20:01] <evon> trijntje: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159741/trying-to-migrate-windows-7-install-of-adobe-cs5-to-ubuntu-12-04-with-wine-in
[20:01] <compdoc> trijntje, likely based on wine
[20:01] <TexNixk> trijntje : yeah was just looking at that ... http://www.manualowl.com/m/Acer%20Computers/Aspire-E1-531/Manual/298658?page=44
[20:01] <compdoc> heh
[20:02] <TexNixk> trijntje : says F2 durring POST and doesn't mention using FN key
[20:03] <g0ldencode> hello
[20:03] <trijntje> TexNixk: now I'm at the next problem: trying to boot from usb lands me in a 3sec reboot cycle
[20:03] <trijntje> hi g0ldencode
[20:04] <trijntje> evon: by far the easiest solution would be to use GIMP instead of photoshop :P
[20:05] <evon> trijntje, LOL too much of a learning curve for me.
[20:05] <g0ldencode> I noticed an issue I dont know if you would call it a bug but with the gnome-shell I noticed by default when Installed there was no way of powering down
[20:05] <Vi> blkadder, i figured out with nmap that there are 5 hosts. <IP_ADDRESS>-6 it seems that <IP_ADDRESS> is the firewall.
[20:06] <trijntje> evon: I can imagine that. I have no experience using photoshop or wine, so I cant help you I'm afraid
[20:06] <evon> Oh another issue i've been having is that i have not been able to get unity 3d to run.  I have a nvidia gtx 460 with drivers installed from www.geforce.com
[20:06] <g0ldencode> I had to switch to the tty console
[20:06] <p47> Does any body here have experience with openvpn ? I ca not connect
[20:07] <TexNixk> trijntje : you mean it won't boot usb stick ... just reboots every 3 seconds ?
[20:07] <trijntje> TexNixk: yes
[20:08] <TexNixk> let me look art bios options
[20:08] <trijntje> Maybe I can disable UEFI, but I thought ubuntu supported UEFI out of the box
[20:09] <rye> trijntje: it is, for 12.10/amd64 version
[20:10] <TexNixk> looks like you need to set the usb hdd boot priority to first item
[20:10] <TexNixk> trijntje : is this a dual boot with windows 8 ?
[20:10] <trijntje> TexNixk: that is the end goal yes. And I've set the bios to boot from usb first
[20:10] <rye> trijntje: but there appears to be issues with various level of brokennes for the implementation - some laptops won't boot from usb device if it did not come up fast during POST, you may want to burn DVD since it appears to have better support by these broken UEFI boot things
[20:11] <koder> hi all
[20:11] <trijntje> hi koder
[20:11] <koder> :)
[20:11] <trijntje> rye: ok, thanks for the tip. I'll have to go and see if I can dig up a dvd somewhere around here
[20:12] <trijntje> rye: do you know where I might send information about this laptop to help people solve some of the brokennes?
[20:12] <koder> i have problem runing nexuiz
[20:12] <TexNixk> trijntje : rye has a great point ;)
[20:12] <Vi> blkadder, now that i know that <IP_ADDRESS> is the firewall, is there anyway to get into it? ssh is blocked, telnet does nothing.
[20:12] <hilo> how can I put this command into a shell script? "sed \'#d\' /etc/vsftpd.passwd" such that the # is a variable in the script? I am trying to remove a line from a file.
[20:12] <koder> this is the error message
[20:12] <koder> Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[20:13] <koder> what does it mean ?
[20:13] <rye> koder: basically it looks like you don't have the 3D driver that would work with nexuiz
[20:13] <koder> rye: do i have to have card with acceleration to play nexuiz ?
[20:14] <rye> koder: yes, since it is a 3D game. I think that with non-accelerated drivers it will be something like a turn-based strategy
[20:14] <koder> it's strange i remember playing it on old pc
[20:15] <koder> maybe i am wrong
[20:15] <koder> ok thx for help
[20:15] <tion> new xorg and nvidia current updates broke opengl on my box!
[20:15] <tion> bastards
[20:15] <rye> koder: old != non-3d-accelerated, but it depends on the hardware
[20:15] <trijntje> TexNixk, rye: thanks for your help. I'll first try to see if win8 still boots when I disable UEFI, if it does I'll just leave it disabled and install ubuntu without UEFI. If it doesnt work, I'll try to find a dvd and install from there. Thanks for your time!
[20:16] <koder> rye: you are right
[20:16] <TexNixk> trijntje :good luck :)
[20:17] <rye> trijntje: i am not really sure where to report this kind of issues, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting seems to have some info, again I have never seen (nor i really want to see) a UEFI machine
[20:17] <tion> new computers should have bios flashed with win8
[20:17]  * rye wonders what his Thinkpad E420 has
[20:18] <TexNixk> this box has uefi, but NO windoze
[20:18] <rye> koder: at some point my Radeon 9000 turned into a pumpkin when ATI stopped providing acceleration support in their fglrx drivers, so YMMV
[20:19] <tion> we are at the whims of the hardware corps
[20:19] <drahti> atention it folows a bit comedy:
[20:20] <drahti> http://pastebin.com/RBsjALs4
[20:20] <trijntje> rye: btw, is 12.10 amd64 the only version of ubuntu that supports UEFI out of the box?
[20:21] <tion> fedora 18 fully supports UEFI
[20:23] <drahti> (EE) [mi] mieq is *NOT* the cause.   The support for this feature has started with Ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[20:29] <trijntje> rye: I see. Because I've been trying to create a localised Dutch iso image for 12.10 64 bit, and it consitently fails to build, while all other versions and 12.10 32 bit build fine
[20:30] <Kaapa> I'm doing a bisect on the mainline kernel, trying to track down a bug. However, there's something I'm not understanding. I downloaded from ubuntu a kernel 3.3.8, but I can't find in the mainline any tag for 3.3.8
[20:30] <tion> will new xorg and nvidia-current updates break opengl on my box! i have nvidia FX5200 card.
[20:30] <tion> will new xorg and nvidia-current updates break opengl on my box? i have nvidia FX5200 card.
[20:30] <tion> currentlly im using the 173 driver
[20:31] <tion> j /ubuntu
[20:33] <Kaapa> short version: what does http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.3.8-quantal/ correspond to in kernel mailine repository so I can start bisecting it from here?
[20:34] <trijntje> I'm trying to install 12.10 64 bit on a new laptop. If UEFI is enabled in the bios, ubuntu won't boot from usb. If I disable UEFI ubuntu boots fine. If I install ubuntu with UEFI disabled, will I be able to enable UEFI again and boot to windows if I want?
[20:36] <tion> fedora 18 is the only distro so far that fully supports UEFI imo
[20:38] <ozpy> Hi
[20:39]  * sarsaeol waves to ozpy
[20:39] <ozpy> I run ubuntu 12.10 on HP DV7. Wireless is not working. My card is Ralink 3298
[20:41] <jhutchins> tion: Given that we've been running linux on uefi since apple started shipping them, I really doubt that.
[20:41] <super99iper> hi
[20:41] <trijntje> ozpy: have you tried connecting to an ethernet cable and installing extra drivers?
[20:42] <Guest48512> hello , how do i manually install grub 2?
[20:42] <heavyd> which is the best distro? according to some digging I did it came down to "OpenSuse", and "Mandriva"...opinions, anyone?
[20:43] <jhutchins> tion: I ran centos and rhel 5 on mac minis without any hassle.
[20:43] <tion> Its Secure Boot support allows Fedora 18 to be booted on Windows 8 PCs without hassle and, unlike Ubuntu, it also uses the security features of the technology.
[20:43] <ozpy> trijntje: I'm on ethernet but I don't know which drivers and how to install them... Can you please help me with this?
[20:43] <trijntje> I'm trying to install 12.10 64 bit on a new laptop. If UEFI is enabled in the bios, ubuntu won't boot from usb. If I disable UEFI ubuntu boots fine. If I install ubuntu with UEFI disabled, will I be able to enable UEFI again and boot to windows if I want?
[20:43] <tion> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-18-released-with-a-brand-new-installer-1784506.html
[20:43] <jhutchins> tion: Did you have a Ubuntu support question?
[20:44] <trijntje> ozpy: you can search for 'software sources' in the Dash, and in there go to the tab 'additional drivers'. If any drivers are available they should be listed there
[20:44] <tion> will new xorg and nvidia-current updates break opengl on my box? i have nvidia FX5200 card.
[20:44] <tion> will new xorg and nvidia-current updates break opengl on my box? i have nvidia FX5200 card. Currently I'm using the 173 driver and opengl is working fine
[20:45] <jhutchins> !repeat
[20:45] <Logan_> !best | heavyd
[20:46] <heavyd> Understood...
[20:46] <ozpy> trijntje: Propietary drivers is empty... I need to get them. How to do it?
[20:46] <mokujin> Hello I have a problem with windows, I installed Ubuntu, and then I needed a window, and I installed Windows XP, 2005, net (other) local disk, after successfully installing Windows, I restarted the computer, thinking that now I will choose the desired operating system, but this has not happened, and ubuntu booted normally. How do I make the computer asked what OS load at startup? PS It would be nice to have someone explain it
[20:46] <mokujin> realties in Russian ...
[20:46] <tion> the best application is the one wuth more stars on soft center
[20:47] <Guest48512> hello , how do i manually install grub 2?
[20:47] <mitja> :q
[20:48] <trijntje> ozpy: do you see any wireless network?
[20:48] <trijntje> mokujin: you can change that from within ubuntu
[20:48] <ozpy> Trijntje: No wireless working. None detected. I'm installing Additional Drivers from Software center
[20:49] <evon> trijntje, Got it working
[20:49] <trijntje> mokujin: do the following: press alt+F2, and then type: gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[20:50] <evon> trijntje, Just installed wine 1.5.  ubuntu repos had wine 1.4 in it
[20:50] <tion> can anyone help?
[20:51] <trijntje> evon: cool, congrats!
[20:51] <evon> trijntje, Now i just have to figure out this blasted unity 3d issue.  I don't want to stay in 2d dammit
[20:52] <trijntje> mokujin: then change the line with GRUB_TIMEOUT to GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1
[20:52] <jhutchins> tion: You can check the xorg website and their mailing lists to see if anyone has reports of your hardware with the newer drivers.
[20:53] <trijntje> mokujin: also, don't make any typo's or your system won't work anymore ;)
[20:56] <Shutterstrom> Hi, anyone with good knowledge about sftp and samba security settings?
[20:56] <jhutchins> trijntje: Actually, just running update-grub should have detected the new Windows install - but if it didn't boot to windows something may have been wrong with ti.
[20:57] <jrib> Shutterstrom: best to just ask your question
[20:59] <mokujin> trijntje> still loads ubuntu
[20:59] <jhutchins> mokujin: THere may be something wrong with your windows install. Usually it takes over the system.
[21:00] <jhutchins> mokujin: You could try running update-grub to see if it auto-detects windows.  You should also make sure you have some sort of rescue CD to boot to if windows does take over the MBR.
[21:01] <rasp_pie> hi. Ich habe das OS für mein NAS auf einem billigen USB-Stick installiert. Es scheint, als würde der komisch reagieren, bzw. Daten verlieren. Nun möchte ich gerne einen neuen USB-Stick kaufen, der zuverlässiger ist. Habt ihr da irgend welche Empfehlungen? Oder wie zuverlässig sind USB-Sticks generell für die Installation eines (Unix-basierten) Betriebssystems?
[21:02] <jrib> !de | rasp_pie
[21:02] <rasp_pie> sorry, Übersetzung kommt gleich
[21:02] <Shutterstrom> I'm new to Linux and recently got a server where I have all my files (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS) and access them from my Windows 7 laptop. I mostly interact with the server from my laptop, but when I need to access the server from sftp (not from home) I need to change the ownership of the shared folder on order to access it from ftp program. I'm looking for a way to use both functions and not change
[21:02] <Shutterstrom> ownership of filestructure for each use.
[21:02] <guntbert> rasp_pie: better visit #ubuntu-de
[21:03] <jrib> Shutterstrom: what's the current ownership/permission like?  Why do you need to change it to access it?
[21:03] <trijntje> jhutchins: what do you mean?
[21:04] <rasp_pie> Hi. I installed the OS of my NAS on a cheap USB stick. it seems as this stick is losing data integrity or behaving strangely anyway. so I would like to buy a new USB stick to host the linux based operating system (=ubuntu). so what would you recommend me? does the manufacturer of the stick even matter? are there quality differences?
[21:04] <trijntje> jhutchins: nevermind, I see you were talking to mokuji
[21:04] <Shutterstrom> jrib: for samba usage: sudo chown henrik:henrik -R /share/
[21:04] <jhutchins> trijntje: Usually windows will overwrite the mbr without asking, so that it will boot directly on the next restart.  You then have to go back and replace the windows mbr with grub.
[21:05] <Shutterstrom> jrib: for sftp usage: sudo chown root:root -R /share/
 i post terminal output in privat message
[21:05] <jrib> Shutterstrom: why don't you use sftp as henrik?
[21:05] <mokujin> sorry for my english -
[21:06] <trijntje> rasp_pie: I guess anything should be fine, I usually test the alpha/beta releases of ubuntu from an old external harddisk
[21:07] <jhutchins> rasp_pie: Most of the components are generic and manufactured by the same group of factories, then assembled and branded by the final company so no, brand usually doesn't matter at all.
[21:07] <trijntje> I would try to get a usb stick with high read/write speeds, and make sure you make regular backups to a real disk since flash drives suffer from wear
[21:07] <BvL> Hi, i need a little help, my laptop crashed yesterday while firefox was open now i get the error message
[21:07] <BvL> "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."
[21:07] <jhutchins> rasp_pie: Poor performance is unusual - usually it either works or is a total failure.
[21:07] <BvL> I think i found the profile in the lost+found folder on my home partition, is there anyway to recover it?
[21:08] <mokujin> it says that windows found in the (path)
[21:08] <rasp_pie> ok, that helps. thank you, everybody!
[21:09] <Shutterstrom> jrib: the sftp should only have acces to one folder in the /share structue so therefore I'm using an account (called: heju) that only have access to sftp and can not see anything else. My own account (henrik) has more access then my sftp account (heju)
[21:09] <jamescarr> if I remove a directory as root and it has a symlink to usr, will it delete the contents under use?
[21:09] <jamescarr> *usr
[21:09] <jonascj> Hi everyone: does anyone know what piece of software is actually responsible for the logout/restart/lock button in the upper right corner of the stock ubuntu 12.x interface?
[21:09] <jamescarr> like I rm -rf foo, /foo/bar/baz is a symlink to /usr/
[21:09] <jrib> Shutterstrom: so what are the normal permissions on /share, you never said
[21:10] <Shutterstrom> jrib: 755
[21:10] <jrib> Shutterstrom: and you need heju to have write permissions?
[21:11] <jrib> jamescarr: make a small example and see.  But no it should just unlink your symlink
[21:11] <Shutterstrom> jrib: not intentinally.
[21:11] <jrib> Shutterstrom: then you shouldn't have to do anything
[21:11] <learnLinux> I dont get it.. headphones = awesome   speakers = less than to be desired.  I have beats audio in this HP pavilion and have to turn up the vol by 100% without the headphones and the quality isnt that good..
[21:11] <learnLinux> Using alsa
[21:11] <chaotix> when i install themes, i put them in "~/.themes" so that i dont have to touch "usr/share/themes", because i was told it is safer to not go outside your home folder unless you have  to...    should i create a folder called "~/.icons" for icons, or do i need to use "/usr/share/icons"?
[21:11] <Unicorn001> hi all, anyone who has experience with adding a linux boot entry to the Windows 8  Boot Manager while using UEFI bios boot option/disk setup?
[21:11] <jrib> Shutterstrom: by default you are giving "others" read permission with 755 so heju should be able to read
[21:12] <jrib> chaotix: ~/.icons used to work.  I haven't tried since gnome3 though.  I imagine it's still ok
[21:14] <Shutterstrom> jrib: Ok. let me rephrase that question in an other way then. Do you know how I can have full permissions on my samba share if it's owned by root and when I access it from my win7 laptop?
[21:15] <jrib> Shutterstrom: I'd ask you why not change the ownership to henrik
[21:16] <Shutterstrom> jrib: If I change ownership to henrik on /share I'm having problems to connect to the server from ftp.
[21:17] <jrib> Shutterstrom: what problems?
[21:17] <jrib> Shutterstrom: and I thought you said sftp
[21:17] <Shutterstrom> sorry, you're correct. I'm using sftp
[21:18] <alexwaters> we have an svn server with a whitelist, and i cannot connect to it from home. i do have ssh / sudo access to a remote AMI that is whitelisted by the svn server. Does anyone know how I could svn checkout on my home system using the remote AMI as a proxy to the svn server?
[21:19] <disharmonic> Can your boot drive use raid with md?
[21:19] <bekks> disharmonic: As long as it is RAID1, yes.
[21:19] <bekks> disharmonic: That applies to "/boot", not to "/".
[21:20] <disharmonic> I see. Putting boot on a USB could probably solve that
[21:20] <Shutterstrom> jrib: Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_5.9p1NaNDebian-5ubuntu1)
[21:20] <Shutterstrom> Authentication (publickey) successful!
[21:20] <Shutterstrom> Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_5.9p1NaNDebian-5ubuntu1)
[21:20] <Shutterstrom> Unable to make a connection. Please try again.
[21:21] <trijntje> how can I make a compressed image of my whole harddisk?
[21:21] <jrib> Shutterstrom: the server is ubuntu?
[21:21] <Shutterstrom> jrib: correct. 12.04 LTS
[21:21] <jrib> Shutterstrom: can you pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[21:22] <disharmonic> trijntje, Clonezilla can do that
[21:22] <Shutterstrom> jrib: any certain part or the whole file
[21:22] <jrib> Shutterstrom: the whole file if possible
[21:23] <Shutterstrom> jrib: in channel or PM?
[21:23] <disharmonic> trijntje, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonezilla
[21:24] <trijntje> disharmonic: thanks, though I see it's not present in the software center?
[21:24] <guntbert> !pastebin | Shutterstrom
[21:24] <disharmonic> trijntje, you have to boot it from a USB. I don't thinks you can clone a disk while the system is live/has it mounted
[21:25] <trijntje> disharmonic: I see, I'll try it, thanks!
[21:26] <disharmonic> I think BTRFS has support for taking live snapshots now though
[21:27] <trijntje> disharmonic: I just noticed this on their webpage under limitations: destination partition must be equal or larger than the source partition. So it looks like there is no compression possible
[21:27] <_helios_> Hey I have installed the drivers for WUSB54GSC on my desktop Xubuntu 12.10 64bit,  using ndiswrapper everything shows installed,  When i lsusb the device shows up,  but it's still not working what could I be missing.
[21:28] <chessteach> I installed ubuntu via usb and it didn't complete the install. It didn't freeze or crash, but it got stuck on one step. It was disabling the cd from the source list and couldn't finish that step for whatever reason. I rebooted, and ubuntu loaded up fine.... Is there anyway to determine if I am missing something, or something is broken?
[21:28] <disharmonic> trijntje, Clonezilla does compression. Not sure if it doesa it on-the-fly though
[21:29] <trijntje> chessteach: I dont think there is. If you start getting all kinds of weird failures you might want to reinstall
[21:29] <_helios_> It's a USB wifi adapter its a pain in the butt to get working
[21:29] <trijntje> you could try installing the package ubuntu-desktop, if that installs extra packages you know some stuff was missing chessteach
[21:30] <chessteach> trijntje: I am having some issues, but I am not sure if it is related. I installed a windows manager and cannot get xrandr to work properly. It works fine in Unity though.
[21:30] <_helios_> anyone have any suggestions on a usb wifi adapter using ndiswrapper
[21:30] <_helios_> I have the drivers installed still dont show up as wlan0
[21:31] <trijntje> disharmonic: looks like you are correct, they do have a bunch of compression options in their FAQ
[21:32] <trijntje> thanks!
[21:32] <disharmonic> trijntje, iirc it does gzip and bzip
[21:32] <ProNet> Ребзя!
[21:33] <ProNet> Подскажите как реверс убрать при прокрутке scroll lockom???
[21:33] <manacit> can anyone help me with configuring networking?
[21:33] <ProNet> В linux)))
[21:33] <manacit> this is my /etc/network/interfaces
[21:33] <manacit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542643/
[21:33] <ProNet> Ладно ладно, пошел погуглю))
[21:34] <manacit> I'm trying to use route add, but it keeps telling me no such process
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> jrib:
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> # Package generated configuration file
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> # See the sshd_config(5) manpage for details
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> Port 5022
[21:34] <FloodBot1> Shutterstrom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> sorry :(
[21:35] <ProNet> Да вы че морите то))) У меня сабака на бэкспэйс лаит незнаю как убрать а Вы))
[21:35] <ProNet> Пошел гуглить)) Всем спасибо))
[21:36] <helder> Hi there, what is the easiest way to install Nvidia drivers?
[21:36] <iceroot> !nvidia | helder
[21:36] <ProNet> Во! Тоже интересно
[21:36] <iceroot> !ru | ProNet
[21:36] <ProNet> !ru
[21:37] <helder> ubottu:thanks
[21:37] <Shutterstrom> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542652/
[21:39] <jrib> Shutterstrom: oh, because of ChrootDirectory.  You require that?
[21:39] <uragano2> Hello, i suspect that somebody attacked my ubuntu-based home server and he successfully installed a rootkit. I scanned my system using rkhunter and chkrootkit in local and they didn't found nothing. But i had some supects yet
[21:40] <jrib> uragano2: what is your question?
[21:40] <Shutterstrom> jrib: is it because of the "ChrootDirectory" command? Is there anothere way to get to the correct folder on sftp access?
[21:42] <jrib> Shutterstrom: when you connect, you can specify which directory to start in.  Not sure if there is another way
[21:42] <uragano2> so i decided to scan my hd from an other computer, surprise: the system results very infected. But now i suspect that the results are false positive, because a lot of files are infected. I did the test using option -r /media/InfectedDrive, how can i check if my system is really infected? :(
[21:43] <Shutterstrom> jrib: aha..? besides using the ChrootDirectory command?
[21:44] <jrib> Shutterstrom: right, if you don't need that, then you can get rid of it and you won't have to have the directory owned by root.  When you connect (how exactly do you connect?), you can tell your client to start in /share or whatever
[21:44] <uragano2> chkrootkit says that the system is sane, rkhunter says that the system is infected :S, who is right?
[21:44] <jrib> Shutterstrom: ChrootDirectory just restricts the user to that particular directory so he can't see outside of it
[21:44] <jrib> uragano2: well, investigate the rkhunter output more...
[21:46] <tozen> hi guys! does anybody knows to how to configure huawei 3231 mobile internet dongle so system doesent see it...
[21:46] <jhutchins> tozen: So the system _doesn't_ see it?
[21:46] <uragano2> jrib: i have a backup of whole system made just i installed ubuntu on server, if i do md5sum old_ls and md5sum actual_ls they are different! does the upgrade change programs as ls, cp, ecc...?
[21:47] <jrib> uragano2: possibly
[21:47] <tozen> jhutchins: yes pastebinit | sudo fdisk -l
[21:47] <tozen> sorry
[21:47] <tozen> one min
[21:48] <Shutterstrom> jrib: thanks for the info! the idea is (for security reasons) to limit sftp user to this area. I'm also planning to add my brother to access this area and then I don't want him to access anything else. therefore I think that the ChrootDirectory command might be good.
[21:48] <Shutterstrom> jrib: I'm accessing sftp from Firefox with FireFTP-plugin.
[21:49] <tozen> jhitchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542681/
[21:49] <uragano2> jrib: anyway the depth log of rkhunter says only that the hash are different -.-
[21:49] <jrib> Shutterstrom: in that case, sshd_config documentation does say that root should own those files and no other user or group should be able to write to them.  I don't know if you can still use ACLs to add additional permissions to your other user.  You may want to ask #openssh about that
[21:50] <jrib> uragano2: I don't know; I'm not familiar with rkhunter
[21:50] <tozen> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542681/
[21:51] <Shutterstrom> jrib: I'll look through the documentation. Big thanks for the quick and good feedback! Have a greate day!
[21:52] <tozen> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542689/
[21:52] <Shutterstrom> (this is a fantastic way for immediate feedback
[21:53] <BvL> is there a way to restore files in the lost+found folder?
[21:54] <Cong> yeah if there is something in lost+found just put it back in it's proper place.
[21:55] <Lofde_> i have an issue my dependancies are all messed up because of one program... when i try to apt-get install something it wont let me install anything :(
[21:55] <Lofde_>  teamviewer:i386 : Depends: bash:i386 (>= 3.0) but it is not going to be installed... and it tells me to do a -f .. but it still wont install its like its hung
[21:58] <ncsquid22> Lofde I had the same issue for days...until I fixed it
[21:58] <BvL> the files in the lost+found folder have been renamed
[21:58] <ncsquid22> basically the apt-get -f install won't work right?
[21:58] <ncsquid22> -f is for fix broken packages...
[21:58] <lesshaste> in lubuntu how can i set up a vpn?
[21:59] <lesshaste> I don't seem to have a "configure vpn" option.. or where is it?
[21:59] <ncsquid22> here is what I did...
[21:59] <BvL> i dont know what the original file names was supposed to be
[21:59] <ncsquid22> 1) try removing the package first
[21:59] <ncsquid22> 2) try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:59] <ncsquid22> if it doesn't work...
[22:00] <Lofde_> i started to remove teamviewer before you said that and it must have worked because i noticed my updates werent running and it instantly popped up after it removed it..
[22:00] <ncsquid22> 3) use ubuntu software manager and try remove broke -fix broken packages gui and that should do it.
[22:00] <Shutterstrom> jrib: One more question regarding my toppic... If sftp folders need to be owned by root on order to access them from sftp, is there a way to tweek samba user (only henrik) to have full permissions to the /share/ ?
[22:01] <Lofde_> now when trying to do updates it keeps (X) on me and saying "requires updates from untrusted sources : spotify" lol .. geez ubuntu get it together haha
[22:02] <jrib> Shutterstrom: they don't have to be root no.  But if you want to use ChrootDirectory with them, they do.
[22:02] <jrib> Shutterstrom: in that case, sshd_config documentation does say that root should own those files and no other user or group should be able to write to them.  I don't know if you can still use ACLs to add additional permissions to your other user.  You may want to ask #openssh about that
[22:02] <jrib> Lofde_: pastebin « apt-get check »
[22:02] <Lofde_> thanks for the help ncsquid22 tho..
[22:02] <N66> yosh
[22:03] <Lofde_> jrib,  i will after these updates load ..
[22:03] <N66> k
[22:04] <Lofde_> jrib,  when i do apt-get check it just says " Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree   Reading state information... Done "
[22:05] <jrib> Lofde_: oh, I didn't see that you already fixed your issue by removing teamviewer
[22:05] <Lofde_> ive been trying to also install these updates i have to skip over the java 7 one it has been prone to not want to update.. and now the spotify.. i probably need to disable those repositories idk why they're not acting right
[22:05] <john_rambo> which app can tell me the size (inches) of a jpg image ?
[22:06] <salzb> jpg images by their very nature have no physical size
[22:06] <salzb> i suppose you could work it out depending on the dpi you intended to print them at
[22:07] <Tex_Nick> john_rambo ... try this ... http://auctionrepair.com/pixels.html ?
[22:08] <Pizentios> hi there, i was an idiot and did an upgrade in cpan on my system, now it seems i have two versions of perl installed, how would one go about getting rid of newly installed perl?
[22:08] <usr13> salzb: jpg images do in fact have a physical size.
[22:08] <ephesius> john_rambo: you should be able to do it using imagemagick http://superuser.com/a/370982
[22:08] <salzb> usr13 explain
[22:09] <Lofde_> big efff you to update-manager ... big thank you to synaptic package manager...
[22:09] <salzb> how
[22:09] <usr13> salzb: I'd have to give an example.  Just a minute.
[22:09] <salzb> like do they have some physical size encoded in there
[22:09] <salzb> idk
[22:10] <salzb> perhaps i am wrong.
[22:11] <jrote1> Helo
[22:11] <Lofde_> salzb, http://www.photoelf.com/support/faq/sizing.shtml
[22:11] <jrote1> Is it possible to sync users logins and passwords between ubuntu and windows?
[22:12] <salzb> i stand corrected
[22:12] <salzb> i think
[22:12] <john_rambo> ephesius, I just installed imagemagick but it is not appearing in the menu & not opening in terminal
[22:13] <Lofde_> jrote1, LDAP ..
[22:13] <jrib> john_rambo: it's a command-line program
[22:13] <jrote1> both of the operating systems are on the same computer?
[22:13] <Lofde_> oh then i dont know if a way?
[22:13] <jrib> john_rambo: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-tools.php
[22:14] <Unicorn001> I have just installed Linux to the second physical hard drive on a new laptop, where the initial system on sda is Windows 8 with UEFI bios feature and "Secure boot". I installed with the option to add  Grup to aits own partition, not MBR. Anyone who knows how to add Linux to the startup options in new BIOSes?
[22:14] <phunyguy> Hey everyone, I am trying to set up xbmc on Ubuntu 12.10, and I am a little confused with the audio portion.  I guess PulseAudio is decoding DTS and AC3 to PCM, but going over optical, I can only support two channels in that manner. (only way of connecting) - How can I tell it to pass-through AC3 and DTS streams over the optical output?
[22:14] <Unicorn001> (GruB)...
[22:15] <ephesius> john_rambo: its a command line application open terminal and run "identify image.jpg"
[22:15] <keithb> salzb: the photoelf site make the point you made, pictures have sizes in pixels, physical (inches or whatever) size depends on the dpi as you correctly stated
[22:16] <john_rambo> ephesius, I just did that but it is printing the pixels & not the value in inhes
[22:16] <ephesius> john_rambo: also just realized you said inches, this will only get you pixels afaik the actual measurement of the image would depend on the display its output to
[22:16] <usr13> salzb: http://jcubedtech.com/picbarimages/linux.jpg is 313x375 pixels which (if printed), would be 3.260x2.906 inches.
[22:17] <salzb> well, it depends on the dpi you print it at, i think
[22:17] <Ben64> definitely does
[22:17] <keithb> salzb: exactly
[22:18] <john_rambo> Okay
[22:18] <usr13> salzb: The physical size of http://jcubedtech.com/picbarimages/linux.jpg  is approximately 3&1/4" by 3".
[22:18] <usr13> salzb: No that is the size of the image.
[22:18] <Ben64> usr13: not necessarily
[22:19] <ephesius> john_rambo: this will give you a size in inches no idea what dpi its at though "identify -verbose image.jpg
[22:20] <ephesius> john_rambo: "identify -verbose image.jpg | grep Print"
[22:20] <usr13> salzb: The the higher the DPI the better the image quality, but the size will remain the same.  If you print it at it's actual size it will be 3.260"x3.9"  (My first statement was wrong, this is correct.)   about 3&1/4" by 4"  That is correct.
[22:20] <usr13> Ben64: Download the image yourself and see.
[22:21] <Ben64> yeah thats for 96dpi, which is not very good
[22:21] <usr13> it is 313 x 375 pixels which is 3.260" x 3.906"
[22:21] <john_rambo> ephesius, Found it. Thanks
[22:21] <keithb> usr13: no, the physical size depends on the dpi used. Higher dpi (for a fixed number of pixels) gives a smaller (phyical) image
[22:22] <ddssc> hai, what's the best way to install python on debian 6.0 squeeze? it's default is 2.6 I need 2.7
[22:22] <usr13> keithb: DPI is Dots Per Inch.
[22:22] <salzb> a jpg is a grid of various pixels with different colour values, of some fixed dimensions
[22:22] <zoktar> having issues supplying bug reports via ubuntu-bug 12.10 unity, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542820/
[22:22] <keithb> usr13: exactly so 1 dot = 1 pixel and a hiher dpi means a smaller picture
[22:23] <jrib> ddssc: #debian for debian support
[22:23] <ddssc> jrib, my bad
[22:24] <usr13> keithb: Higher DPI means higher quality.
[22:24] <ephesius> usr13: assuming an infinite amount of pixels
[22:24] <keithb> usr13: you are forgetting that the number of pixels is fixed
[22:24] <ddssc> what ubuntu dist comes with 2.7 default and is stable?
[22:24] <ddssc> python
[22:25] <Ben64> !info python
[22:25] <salzb> ok, suppose you were trying to print a large jpg image on a small physical area at a low dpi
[22:25] <salzb> you could perhaps do that by scaling it down and losing quality in that way
[22:25] <salzb> and...maybe that's what usr13 is thinking of
[22:25] <lupo> Ubuntu>Windows U_U EZZZZ
[22:26] <CrashUbi> I'm using an ubuntu live cd to investigate how a virus got onto my mother's windows 7 computer.  I found some of the virus' files were created at 21:31 yesterday.  How can I find other files that were created and access shortly before that to see what the user was doing leading up to that?
[22:26] <usr13> keithb: ephesius salzb For an explaination of the relationship of  DPI  as it relates to printers and images, see:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch
[22:27] <Ben64> CrashUbi: i'll save you some trouble. she was on the internet and saw a thing to "clean her computer" so she downloaded it and ran it
[22:27] <salzb> i understand dpi, but usr13 do you agree or disagree that a jpg is a grid of pixels of fixed dimensions, with various colour values?
[22:27] <usr13> "In printing, DPI (dots per inch) refers to the output resolution of a printer or imagesetter, and PPI (pixels per inch) refers to the input resolution of a photograph or image. DPI refers to the physical dot density of an image"
[22:27] <keithb> usr13: I don't care what wikipedia says, if you have NxN pixels in an image the square picture will have a side of N*dpi
[22:27] <salzb> i don't see how such a file can have physical dimensions
[22:28] <Ben64> usr13: we know all that, we're just saying you can't make a blanket statement that everything is 96dpi
[22:28] <salzb> independent of the dpi of whatever way you want to print or display it
[22:28] <keithb> I agree with salzb
[22:29] <ephesius> i agree with keithb agreeing with salzb
[22:29] <salzb> if you stipulate it's 96dpi or whatever it's easy to calculate the dimensions, of course
[22:29] <usr13> You guys can believe what you want to believe but it is what it is.
[22:29] <CrashUbi> ben64: If my mother were using the computer at the time, I'd agree, but it was my niece playing games.  I'm trying to find out what executable she downloaded, so I can block the download site after I restore it.
[22:29] <GuidoPallemans> How can I set a file type to open with a certain command-line application? Let's say that opensx file.x opens the file I want
[22:30] <keithb> usr13: it what we say it is, you are wrong
[22:30] <Lofde_> why cant DD have a progress meter like Wget :(
[22:30] <Ben64> CrashUbi: you can use "find" to find files created on the same day, but not time... you can use a weird "ls" thing to do it though
[22:30] <Ben64> Lofde_: killall -SIGUSR1 dd
[22:30] <CrashUbi> ben64: thanks; I'll man ls.
[22:31] <usr13> the actual size of a 313x375 image is 3.26"x3.906"
[22:31] <Ben64> CrashUbi: like this maybe .... "ls -lR | grep "21:31""
[22:31] <GuidoPallemans> How can I set a file type to open with a certain command-line application? Let's say that "opensx file.x" opens the file I want
[22:31] <v0lksman> any reason I would be seeing http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542874/ in my process list?  I don't use a proxy for anything
[22:31] <Ben64> usr13: at 96dpi, yes.
[22:31] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: and what do you want to do to have opensx open file.x?
[22:31] <Lofde_> i dont want to kill it i want to watch the operation of the img transfer ..
[22:31] <Ben64> Lofde_: sigusr1 doesn't kill it, it prints stats
[22:31] <ephesius> usr13: at 96 DPI you are correct but at 600 DPI it is 0.52x0.63 inches
[22:32] <CrashUbi> Il
[22:32] <Lofde_> ah ok... it would be cool if there was one that instead of seeing the processing stats could actually tell read rates .. ?
[22:32] <GuidoPallemans> jrib ah just double-click it in nautilus, and then it would open a terminal which runs openx selectedfile.x
[22:32] <salzb> usr13 is just messing with you at this point i think :P
[22:32] <jrib> !defaultapp | GuidoPallemans
[22:32] <Ben64> Lofde_: you could also use "pv"
[22:32] <CrashUbi> IR lR
[22:32] <usr13> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch
[22:32] <Lofde_> i did try...
[22:32] <Lofde_> i kept getting an error
[22:33] <Ben64> Lofde_: try this "dd if=/dev/zero | pv | dd of=/dev/null"
[22:33] <Lofde_> ben64 owner@owner-Dell-DXP061:~/Downloads$ sudo dd if=mele-ubuntu-lucid.img |pv|dd of=/dev/sde dd: opening `/dev/sde': Permission denied    0B 0:00:00 [   0B/s] [<=>
[22:33] <Ben64> oh sudo : /
[22:34] <GuidoPallemans> ubottu but it's a command-line application
[22:34] <Ben64> Lofde_: try putting sudo on the 2nd dd
[22:34] <Lofde_> hrm good idea :)
[22:34] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: that's fine
[22:34] <Ben64> Lofde_: not sure if it'll work still
[22:35] <GuidoPallemans> jrib I can't find a way to type in what the application name is
[22:35] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: you can "add" new applications in the "open with" tab after pressing properties
[22:35] <jrib> unless something changed...
[22:35] <unclezipper> I'm running Linux Mint 14 with KDE. A few days ago I tried to install Crystal Space 3d, and I had to reboot for unrelated reasons after the dependencies installed. When my computer booted back up, my primary monitor(laptop screen) was stuck in 640x480 mode and I couldn't change it. My other monitor, connected to VGA, works fine, though. Is it possible that something I installed changed my Xorg settings, and if so how would I fix
[22:35] <Lucis> Hello all, i have been granted access over ssh to a friends machine running in a network. I have to ssh over a port in the 7000 range. because port 22 is a honeypot. and i got an assignement for educating me. i have to make a full report with proof on how this works. i geuss its iptables and portforwarding on the firewall. i nmapd the local network and got 5 hosts, i am pretty certain the <IP_ADDRESS> is the firewall. how do i get more info on what
[22:35] <Lucis>  this firewall is doing without having access to it.
[22:35] <Ben64> jrib: my ubuntu doesn't let me do that anymore
[22:35] <Lofde_> Ben64,  you're awesome :D
[22:35] <Ben64> Lofde_: :D
[22:36] <GuidoPallemans> jrib no, that puts the selected application from "other applications" between the "recommended applications"
[22:37] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: then you have to create a .desktop file for your program
[22:37] <GuidoPallemans> hmm
[22:37] <usr13> Lofde_: ssh -vvv  ?
[22:37] <GuidoPallemans> I'll look it up, thanks
[22:37] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: you can put the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications
[22:37] <makerbreakr> anyone have any idea about this:  https://gist.github.com/4560499
[22:37] <makerbreakr> ubuntu 12.04, external USB microsd reader (8G card)
[22:38] <Lofde_> usr13, ?
[22:38] <S3cS2> Testing
[22:38] <usr13> Lofde_: If you've been granted ssh access then login to it and look at the output on the screen for more info.
[22:38] <CrashUbi> ben64: Grep cuts off directory paths. do you know how to get it to show me the directory paths on the same lines as the results?
[22:38] <salzb> i don't trust anything usr13 says until she renounces her flat earth views re: jpgs and dpi
[22:39] <usr13> Lofde_: ssh -vvv 10.x.x.x
[22:39] <Lofde_> usr13, i didnt ask about ssh login or access to anything?
[22:39] <usr13> Lofde_: ssh -vvv<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:39] <Lofde_> Lucis, ?
[22:39] <usr13> Lucis: Yes, sorry
[22:39] <Lofde_> n/p
[22:39] <Lucis> lofde_ usr13, sorry was not paying attention, give me a sec to read back
[22:39] <uragano2> does exist a way to see the changelog of standard ubuntu applications(ls, cp, su,..)?
[22:41] <usr13> Lucis: And, once your logged in, you can see what iptables rules there might be.  iptables -L
[22:41] <Lucis> usr13 im afraid i dont have access to it. output of ssh -vvv = connect to port 22 refused
[22:42] <Lucis> usr13 which is normal since port 22 shows closed when i nmap <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:42] <jrib> uragano2: apt-get changelog coreutils
[22:42] <jrib> usr13: (or whatever package your program belongs to)
[22:42] <usr13> Lucis: But you said, "i have been granted access over ssh to a friends machine running in a network"  ???
[22:42] <usr13> jrib: Wrong nick
[22:43] <jrib> usr13: pick a new first letter!
[22:43] <usr13> Okeydokey
[22:43] <uragano2> jrib: the system is not running, does exist a changelog on internet?
[22:43] <usr13> (too many nicks
[22:43] <jrib> uragano2: packages.ubuntu.com will link to the changelog
[22:44] <uragano2> jrib: thanks :)
[22:44] <Lucis> usr13     http://pastebin.com/xz1Xpz6u  this is the output of the nmap -O
[22:45] <Lucis> usr13 i have access to the host on <IP_ADDRESS>, a machine running ubuntu, not the firewall.
[22:45] <Lofde_> in ubuntu if my soundcard is putting out 100%.. how can i supercharge that to 120%
[22:46] <Lofde_> hahahah never mind they built that in :D
[22:47] <sylphie> Lofde_ \ you'd need an external amp
[22:47] <M1DLG> Anyone familiar with getiplayer here?
[22:48] <ephesius> Lucis: the only way to view the rules would be from the firewall
[22:48] <KeyboardNotFound> ubottu how are you ?
[22:48] <Lofde_> sylphie, in the sound preferences they actually let you push past 100% ..
[22:48] <usr13> Lucis: There are other options for nmap, (see man nmap)  Example: nmap -A -T4 -p22 <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:49] <emily_> hi
[22:49] <usr13> Lucis: There is also traceroute
[22:50] <Lucis> usr13, yes i tried that before but it outputs just a single record of port 22 instead of the rest.
[22:51] <Lucis> usr13 lets see what traceroute outputs.
[22:51] <usr13> Lucis: traceroute -p22 <IP_ADDRESS>   #Just an example, subsitute 22 for other ports as need be.
[22:52] <Lucis> usr13 yes i'm trying it out.
[22:53] <usr13> Lucis: Read the man files, (I only threw a couple of random optins out there for you to look at, you try your own).
[22:54] <Lucis> they are good options and ill look into it. ty
[22:54] <usr13> Lucis: NP Good luck
[22:54] <M1DLG> Anyone able to spend 5 mins to help me set up a launcher for getiplayer?
[22:54] <Lucis> ty
[22:55] <iamabigfairyman> I've been binging for tips installing AIM all day, any tips?
[22:56] <usr13> iamabigfairyman: pidgin ?
[22:58] <uragano2> solved different hash problem finding a user with same configuration! Hash match:)
[23:00] <calavera> I'm having trouble dual booting on my uefi system.
[23:01] <calavera> Would anybody have any experience with this?
[23:01] <skp1_> !java
[23:05] <atari2600a> Join the Enlightenment!
[23:05] <calavera> Hello?
[23:05] <calavera> /msg NICKSERV identify barisax!
[23:05] <atari2600a> no u
[23:05] <calavera> Whelp...
[23:06] <jrib> calavera: well at least you don't have an embarrassing password
[23:06] <Tex_Nick> jrib : lol
[23:06] <dniMretsaM> jrib: we all know how that goes
[23:07] <dniMretsaM> I've seen some... odd passwords in my IRC travels
[23:07] <DJFUCHACK3R> Ain't Life A Rolling Bitch?
[23:07] <keith_b> Can someone advise on how to fix shockwave crashing in Chromium? I have tried turning off hardware acceleration, but when the window appears, it doesn't allow the option to be unchecked. Videos are crasing about 50-60% of the time.
[23:08] <keith_b> *crashing
[23:08] <DJFUCHACK3R> I think you should direct your question to Jack Bauer.
[23:08] <jrib> DJFUCHACK3R: please stay on the topic of ubuntu support here
[23:09] <Tex_Nick> !ot | DJFUCHACK3R
[23:09] <DJFUCHACK3R> Jack Bauer Is An Ubuntu Support Specialist.
[23:09] <DJFUCHACK3R> Jack Will Take Care Of Your African Nationalism Problems No Question Asked. :)
[23:09] <keith_b> Well, since I am running Ubuntu, thought someone may have seen the Chromium problem, is there a Chromium support IRC?
[23:10] <Tex_Nick> DJFUCHACK3R : you were asked to stop that several hours ago
[23:10] <DJFUCHACK3R> Love The Nick Tex_
[23:11] <sylphie> keith_b \ do you think it's a chromium specific problem?
[23:11] <keith_b> no it is happening in both firefox and chromium.
[23:12] <sylphie> so it's more of a shockwave problem
[23:14] <soahccc> I really would like to use file transfer via jabber but the servers are horribly slow. If I read it correctly I need some sort of SOCKS5 Proxy. Wasn't that possible with a SSH port forwarding thing? (unless somebody knows a fast jabber ft proxy)
[23:18] <jonascj> Anyone using "dmenu" ?
[23:19] <helder> tried to install nvidia drivers via software sources dialog box, and end up with 800x600 screen and no unity...
[23:19] <helder> any ideas?
[23:21] <usr13> helder: Do you have the GUI configuration app?
[23:22] <usr13> helder: If you installed nvidia driver, it should have left you with aGUI application that allows you to change or set screen size resolutions.
[23:22] <helder> usr13: I don't know... meanwhile I reverted back to the default drivers...
[23:22] <usr13> helder: O
[23:23] <usr13> helder: Well, you're prolly better off with open source driver anyway.
[23:23] <helder> urs13: Oh that, yes I did have that, but it was missing all the info...
[23:23] <usr13> helder: But FYI, there is also xrandr
[23:23] <helder> urs13: yes, but no 3d aceleration...
[23:24] <jonascj> If anyone's using dmenu I cannot for all things good in this world specify a font for dmenu
[23:24] <usr13> helder: Well, the driver was either broken or miss-configured or just the wrong one for your card.
[23:25] <usr13> helder: But it's been my expirence that the Nvidia installer will not allow you to install wrong driver.
[23:25] <helder> urs13: one thing I notice was the xorg.cfg file was blank...
[23:25] <usr13> helder: Ok, well that is a problem.  The install was clearly not complete, (missing nvidia-setup).
[23:26] <usr13> helder: nvidia-xconfig  or  nvidia-settings  one or the other...
[23:27] <helder> usr13: yap... going to the forum to see if there is another way to install the driver
[23:27] <usr13> helder: nvidia-xconfig is a tool intended to provide basic control over configuration options available in the NVIDIA X driver.
[23:28] <keith_b> sorry sylphie, should have AFK (was a child emergency), yes the problem seems to be shockwave. It may be a problem with my NVidia card. It seems to be a common problem, but I haven't found a solution as of yet.
[23:28] <Bower^> any recommendations for a program that will allow me to connect to a db, carry out queries etc? i like using sqlyog on windows
[23:28] <usr13> helder: nvidia-xconfig writes the xorg.conf file.
[23:28] <DJFUCHACK3R> PLEASE WAIT WHILE WE DENTALLY SEARCH YOU FOR CAVITIES.
[23:28] <helder> usr13: yes... I run that command in the terminal to create de xorg.cfg file, and it stated i was ok in the end...
[23:28] <irv> how can i make a directory writable by my user from the shell
[23:28] <usr13> helder: sudo ?
[23:28] <helder> yes
[23:29] <Bower^> irv: chown the folder
[23:29] <jrib> !permissions | irv
[23:29] <usr13> irv: chmod +w file.name
[23:29] <helder> usr13: yes as root
[23:29] <irv> i'm running a cs go server and it can't write the automatic demos to the folder so just chown the whole folder?
[23:29] <irv> or is there a way to just make it writable
[23:29] <madprops> is the hicolor icon set still supported? i run batti a battery monitor for the tray but some of icons are missing
[23:29] <usr13> helder: I dono... should have done it. Did you do nvidia-settings?
[23:30] <Bower^> irv: chmod will do that
[23:30] <irv> just with the dirname? thanks!
[23:31] <usr13> irv: Look at and see what needs to be done.   ls -l
[23:31] <Bower^> you should read up permissions (link ubottu provided)
[23:31] <irv> thanks all :D
[23:31] <madprops> what's the command to fire up the indicator area?
[23:31] <helder> usr13: yes i run nvidia-settings as well, but like i said, there were not the usual information or options...
[23:32] <usr13> helder: How did you install the driver?
[23:33] <Bower^> any recommendations for a database querying program? bit tired of using phpmyadmin
[23:38] <ox1de> I have one suggestion to the Ubuntu programmers: Please upgrade and program better music visualizers for ubuntu!
[23:38] <ox1de> music visualizers are the only thing I've ever found lacking in ubuntu
[23:39] <usr13> ox1de: We mostly just listen to music....  (sorry, couldn't resist :)
[23:41] <usr13> I wish I would have asked what his favorite music visualizer was.  Darn it....
[23:43] <helder> usr13: via the software sources dialog box
[23:45] <ubu> help, i have xubuntu 12.10 x64...all good, but now /tmp size is only 1MB...what happened?  i can't update my system because /tmp is only 1MB
[23:47] <madprops> anybody knows of a nano based editor but better?
[23:47] <madprops> like not vi or emacs
[23:47] <madprops> just a simple editor
[23:47] <jrib> madprops: what's wrong with nano?
[23:47] <madprops> just wondering if there was something more powerful
[23:47] <madprops> that i was missing
[23:47] <jrib> madprops: vim and emacs :)
[23:47] <madprops> >_>
[23:48] <jrib> madprops: there are a few other editors but those are the big three.  Just search the repositories for "text editor"
[23:51] <irv> sorry to bug y'all again, but after reading the article i'm still a bit confused how i would do one thing.. i want to temporarily add a user to have write permissions to the root of the filesystem (/) but not underneath that. is this possible?
[23:51] <jrib> irv: why do you want to do that?
[23:51] <irv> there's a bug in a piece of software which is writing files there. i need to be able to run it tonight before a patch will be out heh
[23:52] <irv> and i'm running the program that's writing there as my user
[23:52] <irv> rather than root
[23:52] <irv> heh
[23:52] <irv> so instead of running it as root i'd prefer to temporarily put the write permissions for my user account to /
[23:52] <irv> i suppose it doesn't matter if it's the whole filesystem underneath, except for the fact that it would be harder to undo i think
[23:53] <jrib> irv: i would not advise giving a piece of buggy software permissions to /...
[23:53] <BvL> is there any way to figure out what the original file names are in the "lost+found folder?"
[23:53] <irv> it's a halflife server
[23:53] <irv> they have a bug that stores the demos automatically but it's adding a / infront of the filename, causing it to try to store in the root of hte filesystem
[23:54] <irv> if running the entire server as root is a more secure solution, then i guess i'll do that
[23:54] <jrib> irv: you can't turn off the demos saving automatically?
[23:54] <irv> it just seems less secure to run the whole thing as root rather than just giving it write access to one dir
[23:54] <jrib> irv: it's not secure, it's just about as bad
[23:54] <irv> i could turn off the auto recording, but then i have to manually start and stop the recordings throughout the night
[23:55] <irv> which is not what i'd like to be doing this evening :P
[23:55] <jrib> irv: is this some new bug?
[23:55] <irv> however if there's no way then i dunno
[23:55] <irv> it's CSGO specifically
[23:55] <irv> and it's been reported for a few months, just hasn't been patched yet
[23:55] <irv> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3031882
[23:55] <KI4RO> Anyone know where the latest version (2.1.3) of gtkpod is?
[23:55] <irv> this character realized that it was trying to write to the root dir
[23:55] <irv> which is why it was failing even when i gave myself write permissions to the dir where the binary is :P
[23:56] <irv> so there's no way to give it just write access to / and not every folder underneath?
[23:57] <ox1de> OK! I found a music visual called soundwheel but it wants me to "buy" althought the price is set to $0.00
[23:57] <ox1de> I'd like to try it, what should I do?
[23:58] <ox1de> I have no way of paying for software
[23:58] <BvL> is there any way to figure out what the original file names are in the "lost+found folder?"


[18:06] <BugeyeD> anyone aware of plans to revamp the installer? i just read this article and agree with the author. i hadn't really thought about it before, but i do remember the installer taking a very long time - particularly on my netbook.
[18:06] <BugeyeD> http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/OS-installers
[20:32] <holstein> BugeyeD: interesting
[20:32] <holstein> i can identify with that for sure