[01:10] <Zombie-Gaz> Can someone please tell me why I get a "sudo: unable to resolve host dante" whenever I run sudo ("dante" is the name of my machine)? Where can I just remove "dante" as my host - I want the machine to be called "dante" but don't need it to try and resolve that as the hostname.
[01:14] <jpds> Zombie-Gaz: Sounds like something wrong with /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname.
[01:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #521563 in vsftpd (main) "crashed during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/521563
[01:17] <Zombie-Gaz> jpds All that /etc/hostname reads is "dante". Can I just chance this to localhost to rid myself of the error?
[01:17] <Zombie-Gaz> erp. change.
[01:53] <echosystm> hi guys
[01:53] <echosystm> whats the difference between ubuntu normal and ubuntu server?
[01:53] <echosystm> is it a different kernel?
[02:06] <pmatulis> echosystm: yes, a different kernel b/c there are different kernel options set
[02:08] <echosystm> i usually get a lot of problems in a dist-upgrade
[02:08] <echosystm> but 10.04 is goign to be released in the near future
[02:08] <echosystm> would it be bad to jsut start running the pre-release now?
[02:09] <echosystm> this server isnt mission critical so bugs are... tolerable
[02:09] <echosystm> i just dont want to have to reinstall the os once supprot for 9.10 ends
[02:15] <twb> echosystm: that really depends on whether you're capable of dealing with bugs when they arise.
[02:17] <echosystm> i'd just wait it out until someone else fixes it :P
[02:37] <twb> Where the bug is something like "does not boot"?
[02:47] <echosystm> ok maybe i wont run 10.04 until its out then :P
[02:47] <echosystm> dist upgrade on 6 vms is going to be fun lol
[02:48] <echosystm> ahwell
[02:48] <twb> You should just be able to map operaions over the VMs in parallel.
[02:48] <twb> *operations
[02:49] <twb> But IIRC Ubuntu has some other stupid upgrade tool you're supposed to use instead of dist-upgrade.
[02:49] <echosystm> yeah
[04:19] <MTecknology> time to go back to learning how to work with kvm
[04:31] <MTecknology> here we go -  sudo ubuntu-vm-builder kvm karmic --domain kalliki.com --dest /virt/images/ --arch amd64 --hostname carpo --mem 768 --user michael --pass GR3en --addpkg vim openssh-server --libvirt qemu:///system ;
[04:32] <twb> That's working with libvirt, not kvm, I think.
[04:32] <MTecknology> twb: oh.. just skip the --libvirt part?
[04:32] <twb> MTecknology: I mean that ubuntu-vm-builder isn't kvm
[04:33] <MTecknology> oh
[04:33] <MTecknology> I was just tryingto follow this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/CreateGuests
[04:36] <MTecknology> twb: should I not use ubuntu-vm-builder?
[04:36] <twb> I don't know
[04:36] <twb> I'm *still* trying to get a requisition for VT hardware through purchasing
[04:38] <MTecknology> twb: My new startup company, I said, hey we need a system that can do something; the developer agreed and said he can't deal with it; we said let's go to best buy and get a decent system: we get back and decide it's enought to run 2 or 3 vm's on - it's jsut a dev system w/ 8GB ram
[04:39] <MTecknology> so I decided it's time I learn about virtualization beyond the basic desktop
[04:39] <MTecknology> twb: 2010-02-13 22:39:15,987 INFO    : Converting /tmp/vmbuilderjuNcjN/disk0.img to qcow2, format /virt/images/carpo/disk0.qcow2
[04:39] <MTecknology> twb: qcow2 is qemu format - I don't know much more than that
[04:40] <MTecknology> "the last argument will automatically add the newly created VM to KVM"
[04:42] <MTecknology> twb: ok - you're right - the next part in the guide is converting the image
[04:43] <twb> kvm talks qcow2
[04:49] <MTecknology> twb: so ubuntu-build-vm is a python wrapper around libvirt and libvirt is an easy way to work with kvm ?
[04:49] <twb> libvirt is an abstraction for various virtualization technologies.
[04:50] <MTecknology> I'm starting up the VM
[04:56] <MTecknology> twb: It looks like it booted fine, but I have no idea what the networking looks like :P
[04:56] <MTecknology> I added the br0 interface like it said
[05:00] <MTecknology> twb: you up for helping me on this one?
[05:02] <twb> no
[05:03] <MTecknology> I bet most anyone else is sleeping too :P
[05:04] <MTecknology> twb: what are you up to?
[05:10] <twb> I'm playing Star Ocean 4
[06:42] <MTecknology> !info dillo
[06:42] <MTecknology> heh...
[07:55] <aaron> can some one help me under stand ubuntu cloud setup?  is it like terminal services where you login to a remote computer?
[08:24] <erichammond> aaron: Are you wanting to use somebody else's hardware (e.g., Amazon EC2) or your own hardware?
[08:25] <aaron> my own
[08:26] <aaron> I want to setup a private cloud.  im not sure if its just sharing web apps or if its like a remote desktop system for linux
[08:28] <aaron> ive researched and everything is just non detailed when it comes to exactly how it sets up and works
[08:36] <aaron> erichammond: I'm wanting to experiment I have installed the ubuntu server cloud and dont know what to do next. I dont know how to configure or even what I can do with it. I just found my self setting in a shell not knowing what to do next.
[08:39] <KurtKraut> aaron, could you paste the result you get with uname -a after this install:
[08:39] <KurtKraut> aaron, ?
[08:42] <aaron> I no longer have the system installed.
[08:43] <KurtKraut> aaron, IMHO, 'cloud' is just a buzz word. It is just a word to make people belive that Ubuntu has something special, new and unique. It is probably just a kernel compile in a optimized way to run as a guest on Xen, VMware, Amazon EC2 and other virtualized system.
[08:43] <aaron> I dont have a understanding of what a cloud server is I get the consecpt but dont know if its just a app server by web page or a desktop you login to
[08:45] <sherringham> aaron: it is hard ot explain and it is too early on Sunday morning :-)
[08:45] <sherringham> Try : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing
[08:46] <sherringham> Plus - it is somewhat ill-defined sometimes ....
[08:46] <aaron> when I did the server install it had an option to install cloud server. ive looked for tutroils but just find info that cloud computing is remote service hosting apps and services
[08:46] <aaron> ill look at the link
[08:48] <aaron> what im worndering is if its like terminal services where you can login to it and get a desktop
[08:49] <aaron> is it like having you OS installed on a remote system?
[08:54] <sherringham> aaron: yes, you can that.
[08:58] <aaron> how? is there a step by step how to on this?
[09:01] <aaron> this is vary confusing based on what I have ready a cloud can be any thing. its two wide of a subject and there ant much doc on how to set any thing up well at lest I ant found any thing yet
[09:03] <aaron> everything I have found about cloud computing tries to explain what it is and fails to explain how to get it working.
[09:04] <aaron> Some end results examples would be nice too.
[09:08] <aaron> Thanks.  Ill try asking again some time when it ant so late.
[09:33] <rileyp> mythbuntu diskless clients have wrong time  server has ntp installed clients have ntp installed on image
[09:33] <rileyp> anyone help me with this?
[09:34] <rileyp> ntpsetting on client have been set to get  from server <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:38] <sherringham> rileyp: perhaps try : #ubuntu-mythtv
[11:12] <chrisboom> hey, installed 9.10 server
[11:12] <chrisboom> cant connect to network in installation
[11:12] <chrisboom> last time it did it no problem
[11:13] <chrisboom> on the same machine
[11:13] <chrisboom> this time, ive got no ethernet
[11:13] <chrisboom> exactly the same set up
[11:13] <chrisboom> ethernet cable plugged in straight to router
[11:14] <sherr> chrisboom: what do the logs say?
[11:14] <chrisboom> how do i read them?
[11:15] <sherr> text editor? e.g. vi, nano etc.
[11:15] <chrisboom> sure
[11:16] <chrisboom> sudo vi what...
[11:16] <sherr> /var/log/syslog - look for init of eth0 (maybe) and errors/warnings ....
[11:17] <sherr> Then maybe output of : ifconfig eth0 (or whatever)
[11:17] <sherr> Then contents of : /etc/network/interfaces etc.
[11:17] <sherr> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/index.html
[11:19] <chrisboom> ok syslog looks to be empty
[11:21] <sherr> Never seen that - you sure? : ls -l /var/log/syslog
[11:22] <chrisboom> ls -l /var/log/syslog
[11:22] <chrisboom> types in that and one line came up saying rw-r-------1 syslog then some numbers
[11:23] <sherr> Mine says : -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-14 11:22 /var/log/syslog
[11:23] <sherr> *143856* is the size in byts
[11:23] <sherr> *bytes
[11:25] <chrisboom> sorry got logged off
[11:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #521666 in libaxiom-java (main) "Fake sync libaxiom-java 1.2.8-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/521666
[12:01] <chrisboom> seriously, need some help here
[12:02] <chrisboom> installed 9.10 fine yesterday
[12:02] <chrisboom> today, exact same setup
[12:02] <chrisboom> fresh install
[12:02] <chrisboom> 9.10 just totally not connecting to internet
[12:11] <geser> Hello, does somebody know when the mysql-dsfg-5.1 / mysql-cluster-7.0 fight about libmysqlclient16{,-dev} will be resolved?
[12:12] <geser> right now libmysqlclient-dev isn't installable on amd64
[14:02] <Roxyhart0> hi somebody know what means this error. tdb(/var/run/samba/gencache.tdb): tdb_oob len<PHONE_NUMBER> beyond eof at 12288 ?
[14:27] <dvheumen> Roxyhart0, I'm not familiar with that error, but from what I understand it seems like the tdb (it's a database I think) must be repaired
[14:27] <dvheumen> some index in this db points to beyond the end of the file
[14:28] <dvheumen> or maybe restart samba, because the file suggests that it might be automatically generated
[14:29] <Roxyhart0> thanks! i just did
[14:32] <dvheumen> and it worked (i assume you meant restarting)?
[15:30] <KamaL> Hello.. linux noob here. I have a VPS with ubuntu server 9.10-x86. How can install a GUI to be able to connect to it remotely as a remote desktop?
[15:33] <KamaL> i tried: apt-get install gnome
[15:33] <KamaL> but i get: E: Couldn't find package gnome
[15:36] <dvheumen> KamaL, you can always search through the packages with 'apt-cache search gnome'
[15:36] <KamaL> ?
[15:37] <dvheumen> I'm not sure about all the packages you need, but you need at least 'gdm' and ... I'm still looking for the correct gnome package
[15:37] <dvheumen> ah right
[15:37] <dvheumen> try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop', then you'll get the full ubuntu desktop set
[15:38] <KamaL> Reading package lists... Done
[15:38] <KamaL> Building dependency tree... Done
[15:38] <KamaL> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop
[15:38] <KamaL> do i have to download it first ?
[15:40] <KamaL> any idea?
[15:41] <dvheumen> make sure that /etc/apt/sources.list contains at least the standard ubuntu repositories. You might want to look at the standard documentation on how to do that
[15:41] <dvheumen> and after the repositories are entered in sources.list, run 'sudo apt-get update' to update your package list
[15:49] <KamaL> here what is in the file u asked
[15:49] <KamaL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/376252/
[15:51] <KamaL> should i update it as explained here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[15:52] <dvheumen> yes, at the bottom of the page it says 'sudo apt-get update' to update your list of available packages, after that, 'ubuntu-desktop' should also be a known package you can then install
[15:54] <bogeyd6> technically you could issue the command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[15:54] <bogeyd6> erp
[15:54] <bogeyd6> put sudo before each apt-get
[15:54] <KamaL> which repositories should i add
[15:56] <bogeyd6> if you had the default repos you would be able to install the desktop
[15:56] <bogeyd6> probably at this time you should go to #ubuntu
[15:57] <bogeyd6> as this is ubuntu-server and by definition is command line
[15:57] <KamaL> i'm here because i coudln't install it\
[15:58] <KamaL> i actually have no idea how to add new repos really
[15:58] <dvheumen> KamaL, you don't need to, bogeyd6 see KamaL's pastebin earlier (http://paste.ubuntu.com/376252/)
[15:59] <bogeyd6> installing desktop is still off topic for here
[15:59] <dvheumen> true
[15:59] <KamaL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/376259/
[15:59] <bogeyd6> in its own right its confusing
[16:00] <bogeyd6> most people dont know ubuntu desktop has all the server packages available
[16:00] <KamaL> i have a VPS with ubuntu server preinstalled, i can't install the desktop version. that's why i'm trying to do this
[16:01] <bogeyd6> lol :(
[16:01] <KamaL> ?
[16:01] <bogeyd6> what about your memory limit
[16:02] <KamaL> i have 2GB of ram, is that what u mean?
[16:02] <bogeyd6> how much you paying per month
[16:02] <KamaL> ?
[16:03] <KamaL> what does it have to do with my question
[16:03] <bogeyd6> i was wondering cuz im in the market for a vps
[16:04] <bogeyd6> kamal which version of ubuntu?
[16:05] <KamaL> ostemplate:	 ubuntu-9.10-x86
[16:05] <bogeyd6> kk
[16:06] <KamaL> DE server, 100GB, 2GB ram, unlimited bw on a 100mbit port, for 34$
[16:06] <bogeyd6> KamaL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/376262/
[16:06] <bogeyd6> KamaL, can you link me up?
[16:07] <KamaL> ?
[16:07] <bogeyd6> KamaL, can you send me a link to the vps so i can get one/
[16:07] <KamaL> it's from a friend, he has a dedicated, and he sold me this VPS
[16:07] <KamaL> PM?
[16:07] <bogeyd6> yeah
[16:08] <bogeyd6> the pastebin link was sent to you contains a valid sources.list
[16:08] <KamaL> so what do i do with it
[16:08] <KamaL> sorry, extreme total noob in shell
[16:08] <bogeyd6> replace your sources.list
[16:08] <KamaL> how :P
[16:08] <bogeyd6> uhm
[16:08] <bogeyd6> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:08] <bogeyd6> comment out every line by putting a # before every line that doesnt have one
[16:09] <bogeyd6> copy and paste the pastebin sources.list into your ssh
[16:09] <KamaL> sudo: nano: command not found
[16:09] <bogeyd6> sudo apt-get install nano
[16:09] <KamaL> haha
[16:09] <KamaL> E: Couldn't find package nano
[16:10] <bogeyd6> press cntrl X then y then enter
[16:10] <bogeyd6> wat?
[16:10] <KamaL> lol
[16:10] <bogeyd6> hmm
[16:11] <KamaL> i guess this one lacks so many packs
[16:12] <KamaL> maybe i can download it through wget?
[16:13] <bogeyd61> argh
[16:14] <bogeyd61> KamaL, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:14] <bogeyd61> KamaL, press i for insert and put a # before every line that does have one, then paste mine in at the bottom. press esc then : and type in w, then q
[16:15] <bogeyd61> then your stuff will start working
[16:18] <KamaL> maybe i can install ubuntu desktop and t
[16:18] <bogeyd6> KamaL, press i for insert and put a # before every line that does have one, then paste mine in at the bottom. press esc then : and type in w, then q
[16:18] <KamaL> sorry. dc
[16:18] <bogeyd6> KamaL, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:29] <olman> manejo de iptables
[16:30] <olman> tengo 2 wan en mi servidor
[16:30] <olman> como hago para crear redundancia?
[16:30] <bogeyd6> !english
[16:30] <bogeyd6> !en
[16:30] <bogeyd6> !spanish
[16:30] <olman> hello
[16:31] <olman> i need script iptables with dual wan redundancy
[16:32] <olman> my server 1 lan(static) and 2 wan (dhcp)
[16:32] <olman> i have 2 isp provider
[18:44] <jeeves_Moss> what do I have to remove from a desktop install to strip it out to make the install a CLI only server?
[19:24] <KamaL> guys, my VPS with ubuntu server can't seem to connect to the internet somehow
[19:24] <KamaL> can't ping to google.com etc...
[19:25] <KamaL> DNS servers seem OK
[19:25] <KamaL> what could it be
[19:26] <slick666> hmmmmm what is your network setup like
[19:33] <dvheumen> Hi, does anyone know about APC UPS-ses that support Ubuntu?
[19:34] <nosse1> >	Hello guys. My Ubuntu server has just been upgraded to karmic, and the disk containing the user's home is fsck during startup (due to fstab "0 2"), yet users are allowed to login! Where can I configure SSH/login not to allow login before e2fsck is done? I didn't allow login prior to upgrade (from Jaunty)
[19:34] <nosse1> ...It didn't allow login prior...
[19:35] <marks256> Can anyone suggest a good High Availability clustering file system that supports user quotas? I've been trying unsuccessfully with LustreFS, but i cannot get ANY stability out of it.
[19:35] <jpds> nosse1: SSH is started before disks are mounted?
[19:35] <jpds> dvheumen: How do you mean "support Ubuntu" ?
[19:38] <nosse1> jpds: Do you know when is the disks mounted? (which init.d script)?
[19:39] <dvheumen> jpds, okay, I just found out that I'm making a certain assumption. Anyways ... I was planning to put 2 servers on a single UPS, one Ubuntu and one Windows. And then have the UPS connected to the Windows-server and have the UPS software communicate with the Windows-server for information about any sort of problems with the power. But now I'm now sure if it was the APC software that supports status communication over the network
[19:39] <dvheumen> and I have seen that there exists a APC software for Linux, but it's all kinda vague, so I was wondering if someone here has some information on that
[19:40] <jpds> nosse1: /etc/init/mountall.conf
[19:40] <jpds> nosse1: Upstart replaced init.d on karmic.
[19:41] <jpds> dvheumen: Surely it has a SNMP interface or something?
[19:41] <dvheumen> jpds, great, didn't know about SNMP, now I know what to search for, tnx :)
[19:42] <dvheumen> it's all about the keywords :)
[19:42] <nosse1> jpds: I guess this confirms that there are some policy or script change.
[19:42] <KamaL> guys, i'm trying to install gnome GUI for my 9.04 ubuntu server, but when i send the command, i get this
[19:43] <KamaL> E: Couldn't find package gnome
[19:43] <jpds> KamaL: Err.
[19:43] <jpds> KamaL: Try: ubuntu-desktop.
[19:43] <KamaL> i tried: sudo apt-get update
[19:43] <KamaL> but still same error
[19:43] <jpds> dvheumen: No problem, the APC UPSs I work with have SNMP.
[19:43] <jpds> KamaL: There is no "gnome" package.
[19:44] <KamaL> aha
[19:44] <KamaL> it's working
[19:44] <KamaL> it's dling stuff, like 450MB
[19:44] <KamaL> it's gonna use about 2gigs, wow :)
[19:45] <KamaL> thanks for the tip
[19:45] <dvheumen> jpds, any particular package you use in Ubuntu for SNMP?
[19:46] <jpds> dvheumen: The stuff in the "snmp" package?
[19:46] <dvheumen> okay, tnx ;)
[19:47] <jpds> dvheumen: For example, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man1/snmpwalk.1.html
[19:48] <dvheumen> jpds, okay, but in that case, have you scripted power availability detection yourself? (since snmpwalk only seems to read information)
[19:49] <jpds> dvheumen: I just know that they support SNMP, haven't played with it myself. ;)
[19:50] <dvheumen> jpds, okay. In that case I'll probably play around with the nut-snmp package I found. Thanks for the info. I'd like to be prepared before actually installing the server :)
[20:00] <jumbers> I'm trying to access files with rsync over SSH that only root is able to view, but for obvious security reasons I've disable root access over SSH. Is there any way to get rsync to access these files?
[20:01] <dvheumen> jumbers, you probably just want to log in via a normal user and gain root rights via sudo or su
[20:01] <es21593> siema
[20:01] <dvheumen> or run rsync daemon en map port through ssh to rsync daemon
[20:01] <dvheumen> *and
[20:01] <es21593> polish?
[20:02] <jumbers> Well, I'm running a backup script that uses rsync like this: rsync -avz -e ssh root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/home
[20:02] <guntbert> !pl | es21593
[20:02] <es21593> dziêki
[20:05] <jumbers> I guess my other option is to push from the remote system to this one
[20:09] <dvheumen> jumbers, is there any objection to running an rsync daemon?
[20:14] <RoyK> dvheumen: it's far easier, and far safer, to run rsync through ssh
[20:14] <RoyK> given registered users, of course
[20:14] <RoyK> for anonymous rsync access, I guess a daemon will do fine
[20:15] <RoyK> just rsync somehostwithsshenabled:/some/path /somewhere and it should try with ssh on its own
[20:15] <RoyK> or add -e ssh if you're unsure
[20:16] <dvheumen> RoyK, I'm not implying that you should open the port to the outside, just run the daemon with the right permissions and connect through an SSH tunnel
[20:16] <dvheumen> but at least then you can configure the daemon to assume the required permissions
[20:16] <RoyK> I use rsync almost daily this way, just -e ssh
[20:16] <RoyK> no need for a daemon
[20:17] <RoyK> I really don't see why you'd want one
[20:17] <RoyK> ssh will fork one off on connect
[20:17] <dvheumen> RoyK, see jumbers' question
[20:18] <dvheumen> jumbers, RoyK can probably help you with your question
[20:18] <RoyK> jumbers: the command given should work if ssh is installed on that box
[20:18] <RoyK> on both boxes
[20:19] <RoyK> if rsync isn't installed on x.x.x.x either install it or use some networked filesystem to reach the data
[20:26] <RoyK> jumbers: any success?
[20:27] <bc> can someone tell me where the default clamav quarantine directory is for the ubuntu package? damned if I can't find it on the filesystem or via google.
[20:28] <RoyK> perhaps /dev/null?
[20:28]  * RoyK giggles
[20:43] <KamaL>  guys, I just installed ubuntu desktop on a ubunte-server, now when i try to connect to shell, Putty closes itself.... is this normal??
[20:43] <bc> Okay, I've exhausted my search. I'll let it stay quarantined forever. The word doesn't even exist under /etc.
[20:43] <bc> (nor in /usr/share/doc/clamav)
[20:49] <bc> Sigh, solved -> /var/lib/amavis/virusmails
[20:49] <RoyK> KamaL: apt-get install ssh?
[20:50] <KamaL> RoyK: the problem is that i'm connecting to the VPS through putty, and it closes immediately after logging in
[20:51] <RoyK> does other ssh clients work?
[20:51] <RoyK> or give a useful error message?
[20:52] <KamaL> the moment i login, it just shuts down
[20:52] <RoyK> shuts down?
[20:52] <RoyK> the link or the box?
[20:53] <RoyK> does it work with another ssh client?
[20:53] <KamaL> putty
[20:54] <RoyK> please, try with another client
[20:54] <KamaL> like what
[20:54] <RoyK> or  ssh localhost
[20:54] <RoyK> something
[20:54] <RoyK> ssh localhost from the console is a good start
[20:54] <KamaL> i'm connecting from home to a remote VPS
[20:54] <RoyK> or ssh user@localhost
[20:55] <RoyK> well, if you can't login to the box, there's nothing we can do other than asking you to try differently
[20:55] <RoyK> do you have a console?
[20:55] <RoyK> like with RDP or something
[20:55] <RoyK> console access
[20:56] <RoyK> also, another client, like cygwin ssh (given you're running windoze) might give an error message
[20:56] <RoyK> putty can be pretty useless at that
[20:57] <KamaL> trying that
[20:59] <KamaL> btw, i have access to HYPERVM, so i can send commands through it too, if it's of any help
[20:59] <RoyK> no idea what that is
[20:59] <KamaL> well, it told me SSH is latest version
[21:00] <RoyK> but can  you do something useful from there?
[21:00] <KamaL> yes, send commands
[21:00] <KamaL> apt-get etc....
[21:00] <KamaL> maybe i can install vnc server through it
[21:01] <KamaL> is it complicated?
[21:02] <RoyK> don't you have an ubuntu VM for testing?
[21:02] <KamaL> no
[21:02] <RoyK> try that first
[21:03] <RoyK> you need to know the commandline before you can try it blindfolded
[21:03] <KamaL> aha
[21:08] <KamaL> ok, vino is installed, so i just have to find a way to run it and connect to it
[21:09] <smallsat> interesting problem I have... I seemed to have deleted the .qcow2 image of a running VM
[21:10] <smallsat> anybody know how I can get it back? the VM is still running, and I'm scp'ing all the data out of it right now....
[21:10] <smallsat> thanks
[21:14] <brixsat> hello
[21:14] <brixsat> i have 2 apps that start at boot time in rc.local, the app1 is a server and the app2 is the client, the problem is that app2 quits because app1 is slower loading
[21:16] <brixsat> can i delay app2 a few seconds from start?
[21:26] <zoran119> can someone tell what is the best way to keep my ubuntu 8.04 lts server up to date?
[21:27] <zoran119> i normaly do 'auptitude update; aptitude upgrade' but the new kernel is being 'kept back'
[21:28] <guntbert> zoran119: I just checked - sudo aptitude safe-upgrade *did* install a new kernel - it just doesn't get activated until you reboot
[21:28] <zoran119> i'm a bit worried that the kernel may be vournable (patches not installed)
[21:29] <zoran119> guntbert: ok... so is there a way to keep a kernel but get the package manager to only install the security updated for that kernel?
[21:29] <liva> brixsat > are you using && operator ?
[21:29] <zoran119> or do you have to upgrade the kernel to get the security patches?
[21:30] <guntbert> !pin | zoran119
[21:31] <guntbert> zoran119: if you are talking about security patches to the kernel - those you get only with a new kernel - where is the problem?
[21:32] <zoran119> guntbert: ok, so the fact that i haven't ran safe-upgrade some known kernel 'wholes' have not been secured
[21:32] <zoran119> guntbert: i better go and run safe-upgrade then....
[21:33] <guntbert> zoran119: I'm not sure if that is the reason - doesn't hurt to try though
[21:33] <zoran119> guntbert: can you tell me... after i do safe-upgrade, will i still have 8-04 lts or will my server be upgraded to 9.10 or someting else...?
[21:37] <guntbert> zoran119: no worries - safe-upgrade won't even do anything which might be slightly dangerous - it will let you stay on your LTS
[21:39] <zoran119> guntbert: awesome... thanks for your help
[21:40] <guntbert> zoran119: you're welcome :-) you might want to read man aptitude and search for safe-upgrade ....
[21:41] <zoran119> guntbert: sure will
[21:41] <d4n1> sup?
[21:48] <brixsat> liva no && operator
[21:49] <brixsat> i have a sh file with sleep function between files
[21:51] <d4n1> if i get an error saying that my kernel needs functionality 0:6, what could it be?
[21:53] <sherr> d4nl: that looks familiar to me, but I cannot recall why. From what?
[21:54] <d4n1> well, it happened when i tried to boot my server, which i had just finshed formatting
[21:56] <d4n1> im formatting again, i just wanted to know if it was a configuration error
[22:20] <qman__> brixsat, you should run your apps in one line like this: serverapp && sleep 5 && clientapp
[22:20] <qman__> err
[22:20] <qman__> nevermind, that won't work
[22:21] <qman__> because the server app doesn't finish
[22:22] <qman__> you could wrap the client in a repeat script
[22:22] <qman__> or evaluate the client's exit code
[22:26] <brixsat> any one here uses shoutcast/sc_trans?
[22:30] <qman__> brixsat, if the server app listens on a port, you could create a script for the client that nmaps for that port until it's listening, then starts the client
[22:31] <brixsat> :) qman__ i solved that part
[22:31] <qman__> ok
[22:31] <brixsat> the problem is that sc_trans wont start if in rc.local
[22:31] <qman__> can't run as root?
[22:31] <brixsat> but the same sh script works fine if executed in shell
[22:31] <brixsat> it can run as root :)
[22:32] <brixsat> is there a "startup" log ?
[22:32] <qman__> is the script written for bash?
[22:32] <qman__> the default shell for scripts is dash
[22:32] <qman__> and bash-isms won't work in dash
[22:32] <qman__> so you could try '/bin/bash /path/to/script.sh'
[22:33] <brixsat> yes
[22:34] <brixsat> #!/bin/bash   (new line)  sc_serv /root/radio/sc_serv.conf (newline) sc_trans /root/autodj/sc_trans.conf
[22:34] <brixsat> and in rc.local ---> sh /root/start.sh
[22:35] <qman__> does sc_serv exit after it starts?
[22:35] <qman__> if not it's just going to wait
[22:35] <brixsat> no sc_serv runs ok :=)
[22:35] <qman__> yes, but in that script
[22:36] <brixsat> http://ouvir.radioamorportugal.com:6002 as you can see :)
[22:36] <qman__> it waits until sc_serv exits before it runs sc_trans
[22:36] <brixsat> :o
[22:36] <brixsat> that may be it :D
[22:36] <brixsat> should i put & im the end of the comand?
[22:36] <qman__> you will have to tell it to daemonize, either by command line option or a & at the end
[22:37] <brixsat> :D
[22:37] <qman__> of course that makes it run the next command instantly
[22:37] <qman__> so you'll have to add in a check or wait
[22:37] <brixsat> qman__  trilian thanks :D
[22:37] <brixsat> i did not expect to be the & problem
[22:37] <brixsat> ;) i will dedicate a music to you ;) in the my show :D
[22:38] <qman__> hah, no problem
[22:52] <KamaL> hello, i have a VPS with ubuntu server 9.04 on it, and after installing ubuntu DESKTOP, something is messed up with configs, and i can't even ping to any site anymore. why is that??
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[23:40] <mylarry> Hi! Systems i have used and seen were always so that there was one starting-point to where the requests came to and that server does (at least) the loadbalancing so routing the requests to differnet servers (which have nothing to do at the moment . But with this architecure you have at least this one server "the starting point" the router/loadbalancer that is a single point of failure. So if this server crashes nothing will work
[23:40] <mylarry> what can you do to have no single point of failure??
[23:48] <zoran119> hey, i just did 'aptitude safe-upgrade' and there are packages being held back (linux-image-server and linux-server amongs them)... is it secure to run my server like this? have the kernel patches been applied?