[12:11] <sara> hello
[12:13] <ubuntu> hello
[12:13] <ubuntu> i have a question ;d
[12:13] <lupine_85> !openoffice
[12:13] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[12:14] <lupine_85> !info openoffice2 edgy
[12:14] <ubotu> Package openoffice2 does not exist in edgy
[12:14] <ubuntu> iam using a ubuntu live cd now
[12:14] <ubuntu> my windows is not working at all
[12:14] <ubuntu> iam getting blue screens so its kinda wonderfull i can get on linux
[12:15] <fleissigfiona> !info openoffice dapper
[12:15] <ubotu> Package openoffice does not exist in dapper
[12:17] <gnomefreak> !info openoffice.org
[12:17] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB (Only available for amd64 ia64)
[12:17] <fleissigfiona> can anyone help? i have some programs which i think i got through adept. they don't show up on the menu even though they are gui, cos i think adept kind of bummed the last bit due to an error, does anyone know how to get them onto the menu?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> fleissigfiona: that would depends on the program and hwo you got it
[12:18] <Teller> Hi! How do I change my locale?
[12:18] <lupine_85> " (Only available for amd64 ia64)" is that right...?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> lupine_85: yeah ia 64 i think is the *86 kernels (not sure if its built for ppc but i thought it was
[12:20] <pete_> i am having mad problems with wireless, what happens if my card is not listed with the ndiswrapper people? where should i look now?
[12:20] <OOD> ia64 is the Itanium 64-bit processor, there isn't any port to Itanium-64
[12:21] <OOD> any ubuntu port*
[12:21] <sean> pete:- what's the card?
[12:22] <pete> sean: Could you please say pete_ as to avoid pinging me?
[12:22] <pete> You got my hopes up for a second =P
[12:22] <fleissigfiona> gnomefreak: through adept
[12:22] <gnomefreak> fleissigfiona: still doesnt tell me anything
[12:22] <gnomefreak> fleissigfiona: what programs?
[12:23] <fleissigfiona> im not really sure as i cant see them to know what they are
[12:23] <fleissigfiona> never mind
[12:29] <pete_> sean: sorry i was away for a second, the card is a ralink 2500
[12:30] <pete_> sean: i read that the rt2400 drivers may work, but i am reluctant to try those drivers because they require that i upgrade my kernel
[12:30] <lupine_85> pete
[12:31] <lupine_85> the rt2x00 drivers require you to update your kernel. The legacy drivers work fine on 2.6.15
[12:31] <lupine_85> there is even a repo :p
[12:31] <shadowraven> is there a command that will let me save all the irc channels i have so they will come up when i start IRC?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> shadowraven: what irc cllient?
[12:32] <shadowraven> konversation
[12:32] <lupine_85> put them into auto-join
[12:32] <gnomefreak> shadowraven: you should beable to edit the config file to autojoin
[12:32] <gnomefreak> or easier if there is an autojoin section :)
[12:33] <pete_> lupine_85: i googled legacy drivers and i am still unclear about what that means, what should type in to get more info?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> pete_: nvidia legacy drivers
[12:33] <lupine_85> legacy drivers are the ones called, rt2400, rt2500, rt2570, rt61
[12:33] <pete_> ah ok
[12:33] <lupine_85> the new drivers are all dealt with by "rt2x00"
[12:33] <pete_> off of serial monkey?
[12:33] <lupine_85> yep
[12:33] <pete_> ok
[12:33] <pete_> ty
[12:33] <lupine_85> use the CVS, not the betas
[12:33] <steveire> where should my firefox extensions be?
[12:34] <steveire>   /usr/lib/something?
[12:35] <steveire> ah, they're under ~/.mozilla
[12:39] <stephan___> salut
[12:40] <stephan___> y'as des francais dans le coin
[12:40] <fdoving> !fr
[12:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:50] <unix_infidel> why is it that when i do ls -la | grep folder the folder size is 4096 instead of the true size of the folder?
[12:50] <unix_infidel> true folder size being reported by konq.
[12:53] <lupine_85> unix_infidel: because the directory is a file
[12:53] <lupine_85> use du -hs instead
[12:54] <unix_infidel> lupine_85: thanks.
[12:54] <unix_infidel> the more i learn about *nix the less i find out i know :)
[12:55] <D4m4ge> hi
[12:55] <D4m4ge> !swsusp2
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swsusp2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <jpiccolo_> anyone help me get phpmyadmin up?
[01:05] <troy> hola folks - just did dist-upgrade to edgy, everything seems to be working fine (for me) - but, apt held back 27 packages (mostly python modules) - and won't upgrade them - what do I do to force it to update?
[01:09] <Skrot> !codecs
[01:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:18] <DollyD> anyone know about a great wifi program?
[01:19] <Torched> my microwave is a great wifi program
[01:20] <lupine_85> rutilt
[01:20] <lupine_85> not in the repos though
[01:20] <xJPM100x> sup eveyone
[01:20] <xJPM100x> everyone*
[01:20] <lupine_85> the networking module of system settings does an ok job
[01:23] <unix_infidel> how can i get gtk-engines to work correctly with gtk apps when i havent installed gnome-desktop
[01:23] <unix_infidel> i've creatd the proper entry in .gtkrc-2.0
[01:25] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[01:31] <sync00> Ok, so I am having trouble installing my printer.  I was in here before, and was told to go to system - settings - printers, but I have no printers option in either system or settings
[01:35] <|lostbyte|> sync00, i think they meant KMENU > System Settings > Printers
[01:35] <sync00> is KMENU not the big K in the lower left of the screen?
[01:35] <sync00> lol I'm such a noob
[01:35] <|lostbyte|> yes that K
[01:36] <sync00> well, there is no system settings, there is a system, and a settings, but neither contain Printers
[01:37] <lupine_85> then go to 'run command...' and run 'kcontrol'
[01:37] <Junis> sync00: yuy mas have System Preferences on Kmenu
[01:38] <|lostbyte|> sync00, after what lupine_85 said, Peripherals > Printers
[01:38] <sync00> lupine_85 THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! *hugs* :p
[01:38] <sync00> hehe, thanks guys :)
[01:40] <Torched> someone go write some drivers for my printer
[01:40] <Torched> chop fucking chop
[01:42] <lupine_85> www.turboprint.de
[01:44] <ryanakca> Torched: that's not really the best way to get cooperation...
[01:45] <Torched> you're wasting keystrokes ryanakca
[01:45] <ryanakca> I am :)
[01:50] <benh> I'm having weird troubles updating to 3.5.4 on dapper
[01:50] <benh> some packages are kept back due to missing dependencies
[01:51] <benh> and I've lost anti-aliasing of text everywhere
[01:51] <zorglu_> q. is there a nice tool to config the firewall on kubuntu ?
[01:52] <benh> amarok isn't installable neither (1.4.3)
[01:52] <benh>   amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[01:52] <benh> are the packages on kubuntu.org busted ? on ppc maybe ?
[01:52] <ryanakca> zorglu_: You usually don't need a firewall on Linux, but if you really want to set one up. just a sec
[01:53] <ryanakca> benh: go "sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0"
[01:54] <benh> ryanakca: nope
[01:54] <benh> Package libvisual-0.4-0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:54] <benh> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:54] <benh> is only available from another source
[01:54] <benh> E: Package libvisual-0.4-0 has no installation candidate
[01:54] <benh> benh@tika:~$
[01:54] <benh> would have been too easy :)
[01:54] <ryanakca> no clue, and please use pastebin next time :)
[01:54] <benh> am I missing a source ? I have dapper, dapper-updates, dapper-security
[01:54] <benh> and
[01:54] <benh> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[01:54] <benh> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-143 dapper main
[01:54] <benh> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-152 dapper main
[01:54] <benh> pastebin for only 3 lines ? heh
[01:55] <ryanakca> well, are you using konversation?
[01:55] <benh> yes
[01:55] <zorglu_> riding the edge, hence you frequently fall ? :)
[01:55] <ryanakca> then you should have a dialog that pops up saying "you are pasting more than 1 line, cancel or edit". Select edit, and you can put it all on one line...
[01:56] <benh> heh, thanks, but I'm been around irc long enough... I just don't see the point of going to pastebin for a handful of lines
[01:56] <benh> it's not like I was pasting an Xorg.0.log :)
[01:56] <benh> anyway
[01:56] <benh> there seem to be some package brokenness there, though it might be a ppc specific issue, just wondering if somebody here had a clue
[01:57] <ryanakca> zorglu_: might want to look into the packages 'fwbuilder' 'fireflier-client-kde' 'guarddog' and 'kmyfirewall'
[01:57] <zorglu_> ok thanks :) i keep it for the log, tomorrow first thing :)
[01:57] <ryanakca> np
[01:58] <zorglu_> ryanakca: somepeople just tried dictionary attack on my ssh, i dont want it to go on :)
[01:58] <ryanakca> ouch... iptables maybe?
[01:58] <ryanakca> zorglu_: or no... kmyfirewall is your best bet... a nice front end for iptables
[01:58] <zorglu_> yep they will all do iptable :)
[01:58] <zorglu_> ok will do , now sleep :)
[01:58] <zorglu_> have fun :)
[01:58] <ryanakca> lol, cheers
[02:00] <benh> ryanakca: do you have this libvisual version installed ? can you tell me from which pool it comes ? the amarok pool itself doesn't have it (I'm checking on kubuntu.org atm)
[02:00] <benh> doh !
[02:00] <benh> ok
[02:00] <benh> it's in 1.4.2 pool but not in 1.4.3
[02:00] <benh> so you are supposed to -add- those source.list entries instead of replacing them ? weirdo
[02:01] <ryanakca> no clue... I have it installed... I'm running edgy...
[02:01] <benh> yeah, I'm pondering updating to edgy
[02:02] <ryanakca> go for it...
[02:02] <ryanakca> just make sure to back up :)
[02:02] <ryanakca> and make sure you can live without a computer for a couple of days if something goes wrong
[02:03] <benh> I suppose I can do that, just need to salvage a couple of things from /usr/local
[02:04] <unix_infidel> anyone know how i can get gtk icon themes to work in ubuntu without having gnome installed.
[02:04] <unix_infidel> ??
[02:04] <unix_infidel> i've made the proper entries in .gtkrc-2.0
[02:04] <DollyD> how do i launch networkmanager
[02:06] <Chani> hmm.
[02:07] <Chani> I'm fiddling with printer stuff and just got an error dialog with no text. this worries me.
[02:07] <Chani> kde was updating driver stuff.
[02:09] <Chani> yay! it seems to have installed the driver properly!
[02:09] <Chani> ...but I can't test until I get to school tomorrow
[02:10] <Chani> so nice when I can get a solution just by following links in the topic :)
[02:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:10] <Dr_willis> Hmm. I just noticed the icons on the desktop. the fonts are black text with white outlines.
[02:10] <Dr_willis> there a way to change that?
[02:10] <Dr_willis> reverse it. :P
[02:12] <unix_infidel> yaay flux is acting up :(
[02:13] <j2daosh> what program will burn data cd's?
[02:13] <j2daosh> bootable isos
[02:14] <unix_infidel> j2daosh: k3b
[02:14] <j2daosh> do i get the option to change the write speed for each disk?
[02:14] <j2daosh> my will burn at 48 but i need to burn at 8
[02:16] <unix_infidel> of course.
[02:16] <j2daosh> god :)
[02:16] <j2daosh> good:)
[02:18] <flaccid_> favourite free arcade style game(s) ?
[02:25] <j2daosh> crap.... i just loaded k3b but i set it for 8x when my burner can do 52x... how do i change that?
[02:25] <j2daosh> ignore me im retarded
[02:25] <CVirus> LOL
[02:25] <Kyral> j2daosh: sokay we all have moments like that
[02:26] <Kyral> "Whats that program...edits text....exits with :wq!..." "Vim?" "YAH!"
[02:27] <j2daosh> son of a bitch
[02:27] <j2daosh> how do i make this program not change to a different write speed?
[02:27] <Kyral> dunno
[02:27] <Kyral> I just say "Auto"
[02:27] <j2daosh> yeah wouldn't mind cept for the fact i have to burn this image at4x
[02:28] <Kyral> See the box that says "auto"?
[02:28] <j2daosh> oh that sucks...
[02:28] <Kyral> It should be a dropdown :P
[02:28] <j2daosh> yeah i changed that to 4x
[02:28] <j2daosh> but it sswitched to 24x
[02:28] <Kyral> I dunno
[02:28] <Kyral> File a bug :P
[02:28] <j2daosh> my burner wont burn that slow....
[02:28] <j2daosh> :(
[02:28] <Kyral> lol
[02:28] <qu1ckfr0st> anyone here know anything about playing dvds?
[02:28] <j2daosh> that really bites.... i dont think i have a burner in the house that will burn that slow...
[02:29] <Kyral> libdvdcss
[02:29] <unix_infidel> anyone here getting some X server problems when initializing SHMConfig or DPMS tools?
[02:29] <j2daosh> yeah... u put it in
[02:29] <j2daosh> lol
[02:29] <unix_infidel> SPEFICICALLY INDEPENDNET of acpi that Kubuntu has setup as default?
[02:29] <j2daosh> well with any luck my ultrasparc will take the cd at 24x
[02:29] <Kyral> oooo SPARC
[02:29] <qu1ckfr0st> eh the kaffeine player doesnt really play any of the dvds i own.
[02:30] <Kyral> OpenSolaris?
[02:30] <j2daosh> yeah
[02:30] <j2daosh> its an older system though
[02:30] <j2daosh> :P
[02:30] <j2daosh> im just going to use it for storage and ftp site
[02:30] <Kyral> It shouldn't matter how fast it was burned
[02:30] <Kyral> as long as it was a good burn
[02:30] <qu1ckfr0st> what program do you use to watch movies?
[02:30] <j2daosh> it didn't take one at 48
[02:30] <Kyral> Codiene
[02:30] <j2daosh> and i read on a forum that i need to burn at lower speed
[02:30] <Kyral> (And Kaffiene for mounted ISOs)
[02:31] <j2daosh> <-- gxine
[02:31] <j2daosh> xine
[02:31] <qu1ckfr0st> Codiene for watching movies?
[02:31] <Kyral> yah
[02:31] <Kyral> Codiene
[02:31] <Kyral> Whatever Codiene doesn't like Kaffiene does lol
[02:31] <qu1ckfr0st> alright, ill look into that
[02:31] <j2daosh> well lets see if this sucker works....
[02:31] <j2daosh> if not i will have 2 coasters...
[02:32] <j2daosh> i hate solaris....
[02:33] <j2daosh> its ugly and uncooperative
[02:33] <j2daosh> is solaris considered linux or unix?
[02:33] <unix_infidel> unix.
[02:33] <unix_infidel> heh, you hate solaris b/c its ugly?
[02:33] <j2daosh> figures
[02:33] <CVirus> j2daosh: FGI
[02:33] <unix_infidel> try working with AIX :p
[02:33] <j2daosh> lol i have at work
[02:33] <j2daosh> its uglier
[02:34] <j2daosh> but whats just as ugly is tru 64
[02:34] <unix_infidel> gonna actually see if i can get down with freebsd for some actual work.
[02:34] <j2daosh> lol but the system that really took the cake at work for being the all time pos is DGuiX
[02:35] <j2daosh> nothing like a 1970 bank system lol
[02:35] <j2daosh> made in 1980
[02:35] <unix_infidel> nice.
[02:35] <j2daosh> that pos is so old it still has reel 2 reel tapes
[02:36] <unix_infidel> ok, this is bad, less than 50MB left on 512MB stystem.
[02:36] <Torched> lots of people still use reel to reel
[02:36] <unix_infidel> multitasking in windows is NOT fun.
[02:36] <j2daosh> lol thats why u use *nix
[02:36] <j2daosh> then you can get something done
[02:36] <j2daosh> without the overhead of the OS
[02:36] <menace> Does kubuntu linux come with Yast?
[02:36] <unix_infidel> j2daosh: nah, i've been using a lot of windows specific software lately.
[02:36] <crimsun> menace: no
[02:36] <j2daosh> and the spyware that comes installed on windows systems lol
[02:36] <Torched> no
[02:36] <flaccid_> !yast
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <Torched> !yeast
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yeast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <unix_infidel> j2daosh: i havent had ANY spyware or malware or bugs on any of my win32 systems in almost a year.
[02:37] <zor0> I think yast is strictly SuSE
[02:37] <Torched> ubuntu can't even make bread
[02:37] <j2daosh> lol windows is spyware
[02:37] <unix_infidel> j2daosh: not like i run it.
[02:37] <zor0> heh, with genuine advantage, it is
[02:37] <flaccid_> windows is malware
[02:37] <unix_infidel> j2daosh: i run windows CE and then build on top of that :)
[02:37] <unix_infidel> BOOYAH1
[02:37] <j2daosh> good man
[02:37] <j2daosh> lol
[02:37] <unix_infidel> its like NFS for the soul.
[02:37] <flaccid_> time to make coffee
[02:37] <flaccid_> its fuckin cold
[02:37] <unix_infidel> erm, LFS*
[02:38] <flaccid_> oops sorry bout language
[02:38] <zor0> I run XP and then install counter strike on it, and then reinstall it every 4 months when it forks itself
[02:38] <j2daosh> windows wouldn't have so many damn security holes if they wouldn't purposely leave holes in their shit for them to get in to your comp with
[02:38] <menace> Is there a program that is like yast for kubuntu?
[02:38] <Torched> why would you want to play counterstrike?
[02:38] <zor0> flaccid_ : 1.6 is $10 now :)
[02:39] <zor0> torched: becuase counterstrike is teh skit?
[02:39] <Torched> it's teh skeet
[02:39] <j2daosh> just play americas army
[02:39] <Torched> just don't play FPS....
[02:39] <j2daosh> its like counter strike but the us army made it and its free
[02:39] <zor0> hm, I've been meaning to try it
[02:39] <j2daosh> what is fps? i saw a movie of this dude playing it (funny as hell when he got headshot)
[02:39] <zor0> but cs 1.6 has a special place on my hard disk :P
[02:40] <Torched> what j2daosh
[02:40] <j2daosh> lol well not aa2.7 can take its place
[02:40] <j2daosh> what does fps stand for?
[02:40] <Torched> first person shooter...
[02:40] <j2daosh> oh...
[02:40] <j2daosh> nevermind
[02:40] <j2daosh> thought that was a game name
[02:40] <Torched> do less drugs kid
[02:40] <zor0> oh, whoever was asking about yast, what yast functionality do you want?
[02:41] <j2daosh> there was a video of this guy playing battlefield or someHELL YES!!!!
[02:41] <j2daosh> ubuntu on sparc... oh happy days
[02:41] <Torched> what's so good about that
[02:41] <zor0> lol, why sparc? whats is the advantage of sparc over the usual x86?
[02:42] <Torched> he doesn't know
[02:42] <j2daosh> the fact that my sparc server isn't going to waste now
[02:42] <j2daosh> lol
[02:42] <j2daosh> i hate solaris
[02:43] <Torched> why do you have a sparc server
[02:44] <j2daosh> because i wanted a cheap server so a guy i worked with gave me his e3k and ultrasparc60 for free
[02:44] <warpzone> pardon, are there no restricted modules for the 2.6.15.-27.386 kernel?
[02:45] <Torched> what's the server for j2daosh
[02:45] <j2daosh> ftp and storage
[02:45] <Torched> how much capacity does it have
[02:46] <j2daosh> 1.5 gig of ram, 10 73gig scsi drives 6 procs
[02:46] <Torched> he gave you that
[02:46] <j2daosh> yep :)
[02:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> gebus
[02:46] <Torched> there's more to that story
[02:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> nice snag
[02:46] <Torched> and i don't think it's family oriented
[02:46] <zor0> wow, thats impressive
[02:47] <Torched> so i'll just stop asking
[02:47] <j2daosh> yeah... he just bought a 2100 sun server
[02:47] <j2daosh> $2100
[02:47] <Torched> you could run a full on website on that
[02:47] <zor0> at my work they had this old quad 500MHz xeon server, my production box now :)  nothing beats a good raid 5 array
[02:47] <Torched> on what you have
[02:47] <j2daosh> that and he has old alpha systems, xeon servers
[02:47] <johey_> Hi!
[02:47] <johey_> Why is phpbb masked?
[02:47] <j2daosh> he isn't married, makes 45 g a year and pays 300 a month in rent
[02:48] <Torched> yeah
[02:48] <j2daosh> lol lots of expendable income
[02:48] <Torched> you're his rent boy aren't you
[02:48] <j2daosh> nope, but when hes too drunk to come to work i cover his shift lol
[02:48] <Torched> that's not what i meant at all
[02:48] <Torched> where do you work
[02:48] <j2daosh> DTN
[02:49] <johey_> Gah, wrong channel. Sorry.
[02:49] <j2daosh> we sell weather to people :)
[02:49] <j2daosh> suckers
[02:49] <flaccid_> boys and girls. multiplayer shoot em up, free available in sources ? exists ?
[02:49] <Torched> i have a weather machine
[02:49] <Torched> yes flaccid_
[02:49] <Torched> cube
[02:49] <flaccid_> serious
[02:49] <flaccid_> apt-get install cube?
[02:49] <Torched> google cube engine
[02:50] <j2daosh> yeah we have a bunch at work too... me ryan and 5 other guys have to mantain the network.... the meteorolgists at work like to screw stuff up
[02:50] <Torched> yeah
[02:50] <flaccid_> cube doesn't seem to be in the sources
[02:51] <j2daosh> ok im off to finish this install
[02:51] <j2daosh> be back in a little while
[02:51] <Torched> it's on sourceforge flaccid_
[02:51] <flaccid_> oh
[02:51] <Torched> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=102911
[02:51] <flaccid_> i was looking for one in sources
[02:51] <Torched> ohh
[02:52] <flaccid_> i did find http://www.cubeengine.com/ but
[02:52] <Torched> still take a look at it
[02:52] <flaccid_> thanks
[02:52] <flaccid_> anyone know if nexuiz can do multiplayer/network?
[02:53] <Max_-> Could it be that.....       0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7145  ------  0000:01:00.0  ... so is my PCI:1:0:0 ??
[02:55] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a guide to get latest firefox working with dapper (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[02:56] <Jucato> unix_infidel: it's already available
[02:56] <unix_infidel> Jucato: in repos?
[02:56] <Jucato> unix_infidel: yes. be sure to enabled dapper-security to get it
[02:57] <flaccid_> Max_-: whats the prob
[02:57] <unix_infidel> Jucato: gracias.
[02:57] <Jucato> !firefox dapper-security
[02:57] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB
[02:57] <Jucato> unix_infidel: ^^^^^
[02:58] <unix_infidel> Jucato: doing it right now.
[02:58] <Jucato> :)
[02:58] <unix_infidel> thanks, good thing ubuntu got down with firefox releases :)
[02:58] <unix_infidel> seeing as it IS the default browser :)
[02:58] <Jucato> for Ubuntu,yet. not for Kubuntu,though
[02:58] <Jucato> :P
[02:58] <unix_infidel> Jucato: in my book its the same thing.
[02:58] <flaccid_> nexuiz is wack!
[02:58] <unix_infidel> i dont use kde or ubuntu
[02:59] <Jucato> ???
[02:59] <unix_infidel> erm kde or gnome.
[02:59] <unix_infidel> :P
[02:59] <unix_infidel> multitasking on two computers at the same time.
[02:59] <Jucato> heh, well your book is not the the same as the default book the rest of us mere mortals use :P
[03:00] <Torched> what do you use?
[03:03] <benh> nobody else experiences loss of anti aliasing of text with the kubuntu.org kde3.5.4 packages on dapper ?
[03:04] <flaccid> off-topic, but i'm stuck. trying to find the mailman modification to allow duplicate naming of lists across vhosts. anyone know where it is. meant to be on sourceforge
[03:04] <zor0> maltaethiron : wikipedia :)
[03:04] <maltaethiron> lol, ty zor0
[03:04] <Jucato> benh: go to System Settings > Appearance > Fonts > enable Anti-Aliasing for fonts, click on Configure, enable Use sub-pixel hinting, then restart X
[03:06] <JRH3K5> !sendmail
[03:06] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 189 kB, installed size 244 kB
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Jucato: you here?
[03:11] <marcelloDoItBeTt> hi
[03:11] <benh> Jucato: it's broken without subpixel hinting ?
[03:11] <benh> Jucato: I have anti aliasing enabled but I keep subpixel hinting off for performances
[03:12] <marcelloDoItBeTt> is there a list of repository ?? becouse i can't download anything from my defaults repositories
[03:12] <Jucato> gnomefreak: just got back
[03:12] <Jucato> benh: I think so. I'm not 100% sure
[03:12] <benh> Jucato: indeed
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Jucato: know a email notifier that can handle multiple email addresses i tried email-notifacation and its eh
[03:12] <benh> (no need to restart X, just start an app)
[03:12] <Jucato> marcelloDoItBeTt: have you enabled the repositories?
[03:13] <Jucato> gnomefreak: um.. KMail? :P
[03:13] <marcelloDoItBeTt> maybe no
[03:13] <marcelloDoItBeTt> how can i do that
[03:13] <gnomefreak> Jucato:  a notifier not a client :)
[03:13] <benh> Jucato: actually...
[03:13] <Jucato> !repositories > marcelloDoItBeTt
[03:13] <benh> Jucato: I re-disabled subpixel hinting and it still works
[03:13] <Jucato> gnomefreak: heh sorry... I'm not an "e-mail" type of guy. :P
[03:13] <Jucato> benh: even with new apps?
[03:13] <Jucato> that's cool
[03:13] <benh> Jucato: must be a glitch with the saved settings when upgrading from 3.5.3
[03:13] <benh> let me double check
[03:14] <benh> I might have been a bit quick
[03:14] <Beebop> I'm working with the Linksys Wireless-G USB Compact Adapter ...
[03:14] <Beebop> It's, uh, WUSB54GC.
[03:14] <benh> yeah, it seems to stick
[03:14] <benh> bbl
[03:14] <Beebop> Working under Kubunu, is dniswapper the best way to install/work it?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> Warsaw and alienarena2007 are some good Free FPS' also :P
[03:27] <josh__> i am trying to back everything up
[03:27] <josh__> and k3b won't let me burn dvd's
[03:28] <josh__> my drive doesnt say if its + or - Rewritables, but i bought +R
[03:42] <thompa> !mount
[03:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:42] <Jucato> hm.. that's not very helpful...
[03:43] <Momal> Just curious has anyone set up xgl/compiz on kde with an nvidia card with drivers from the nvidia website?
[03:43] <Momal> and have it working with titles bars and all ?
[03:45] <thompa> how do i mount a hard drive i plugged in, its ext with no boot loader?
[03:45] <thompa> i made a media/ext-extra dir
[03:46] <thompa> im using edgy actually
[03:46] <Dr_willis> mount /dev/whatever /media/whever
[03:46] <Dr_willis> or edit the fstab file.
[03:47] <Dr_willis> learning the ins and outs of the fstab and mount commands is a top 10 linux thing to learn. :)
[03:48] <thompa> ive done it but its not working
[03:48] <thompa> im getting some weird hidden folders with wrong file size stuff
[03:49] <thompa> i shoulde be able to just put that in fstab, then mount it
[03:49] <david> whatshe other 9?
[03:49] <thompa> or am i missing something
[03:50] <bobbyyu> Guys, I install the Java compiler in my Linux box, now I'm having trouble with setting it to run from any directory
[03:50] <Dr_willis> what is your fstab line?
[03:50] <thompa> im running edgy 64 on the second one, I think its old, but theres no grub on it
[03:50] <bobbyyu> My fstab line?
[03:50] <thompa> im just going to format it
[03:50] <thompa> brb
[03:52] <ubuntu> Kubunto is ATI compatible?
[03:52] <Beebop> Uh ...
[03:52] <Beebop> If by "compatible" ... XD;;
[03:52] <nimnrod> i can't find the path /.kde/share/apps/kdm/ to install the KDM themes...
[03:53] <Dr_willis> make it.. :P
[03:53] <Dr_willis> but that seems an odd place to put the themes
[03:53] <ubuntu> =)
[03:53] <thompa> I have /dev/sda1 right now in fstab, cant I add same line with new hda1
[03:53] <Jucato> nimnrod: you don't install KDM themes in your user directory
[03:53] <nimnrod> im suppose to edit a config file in that dir
[03:53] <ubuntu> How can I resolve the youtube problem with flash 7?
[03:53] <nimnrod> where then?
[03:53] <thompa> why /sda1 has UUID= looks weird
[03:53] <ubuntu> sorry about the bad english! =)
[03:53] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: There is a how-to on the ubuntu forums
[03:53] <Momal> here: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[03:54] <Jucato> nimnrod: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[03:54] <nimnrod> ooh
[03:54] <Dink> I run kubuntu 2.6.18 and ati drivers 8.29.6 so I would say yes it is compatible
[03:54] <nimnrod> thank you
[03:54] <Jucato> nimnrod: or you can install "kdmtheme" for a GUI to manage KDM themes
[03:54] <ubuntu> Hmmm tks!!!
[03:54] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1087994
[03:54] <Jucato> thompa: that will be the new system in Edgy
[03:54] <Jucato> Hawkwind: hello there! :)
[03:54] <Momal> I wish xgl and compiz worked >_<... it worked with an older nvidia card but my new one it doesn't :(
[03:54] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good morning to ya :-)
[03:56] <Beebop> ndiswrapper ...
[03:56] <ubuntu> tkx Hawkwind!
[03:56] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: No problem at all
[03:56] <Beebop> How the Hell do I get it to work with a WUSB54GC?
[03:57] <thompa> Jucato: so do I need that Id for a second hard drive i add in fstab?
[03:57] <Jucato> thompa: I'm not sure, I haven't tried adding drives on Edgy. (cause I don't have any drive to add...)
[03:58] <koboi> hello
[03:58] <koboi> je comprends rien
[03:59] <koboi> qqn peux m aider ??
[03:59] <koboi> je viens de mettre linux la
[03:59] <koboi> et o c est la merde
[03:59] <koboi> :-/
[03:59] <Jucato> !fr
[03:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:59] <thompa> Jucato: edgy does not have the disk utility anymore
[04:00] <Jucato> thompa: it does. System Settings > Advanced
[04:00] <Jucato> Disk & Filesystems
[04:04] <thompa> i forgot ext3 on that line, works now
[04:05] <thompa> one problem is that the new disk has exactly same thing on it but 64
[04:09] <Dr_willis> using edgy?
[04:11] <thompa> yes doc
[04:11] <Dr_willis> what ya trying to do? i researched the new and improved fstab/fancy uuid stuff :P
[04:12] <thompa> i think im going to try and add it to grub, so I can see difference in 64 version
[04:12] <Dr_willis> i even had my drives mounting by Label
[04:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:12] <Art_> Is there  way to bypass CUPS authentication?
[04:13] <Dr_willis> Art_,  bypass what part of it?
[04:13] <thompa> there a small network problem with nvidia
[04:13] <Art_> Dr_willis, All the stuff you have to do to ass a new printer
[04:13] <Art_> add
[04:13] <Art_> oops.
[04:13] <Dr_willis> using the web interface? or the kde printing interface?
[04:14] <Art_> Dr_willis, Either.
[04:14] <Dr_willis> the web interface is crippled by default. for some silly reason, got a url on it -- just a sec.
[04:14] <Art_> Dr_willis, Single user system.
[04:15] <Art_> Dr_willis, No one else has access to it.
[04:15] <link_36p> does anyone know why my cdroms might not be automounting?
[04:15] <Art_> Dr_willis, No reason for all this secrecy.
[04:16] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/
[04:16] <Dr_willis> Art_,  tell that to the ubuntu devs. :P
[04:16] <paddy2k> link_36p, are they in fsstab?
[04:16] <sorush20> is there anyway that I could write in k3b files with any length of file name?
[04:16] <Dr_willis>  thats not the url i was looking for - but it mentions the info.
[04:16] <Art_> Dr_willis, Sure :^)
[04:16] <Dr_willis> a kde dev. had a huge rant about how ubuntu broke the very well done web interface to cups.
[04:16] <Dr_willis> and i agreed with him. :P
[04:17] <Dr_willis> but for some reason all my bookmarks are mseed up. :(
[04:17] <Fifty> I'm having a problem with Konqueror. It crashes every time I click on an mpg file.
[04:18] <link_36p> paddy2k, I dont know, all i know is that there is a cd burner and a dvd rom, and the cd burner doesnt appear to be able to read any disks.
[04:18] <Art_> Dr_willis, Any idea the search topic?
[04:18] <Dr_willis> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2076
[04:18] <Dr_willis> there we go.
[04:18] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:18] <Dr_willis> How Dapper LTS Succeeded To Spoil CUPS Printing (Part Three -- Installed on Harddisk)
[04:18] <Art_> Dr_willis, Thnx much!
[04:19] <Dr_willis> yea the ubuntu guys sort of dropped the ball BIG time with the cups web interface i feel.
[04:19] <Dr_willis> read all 3 of that guys articals on it.:)
[04:20] <Art_> Dr_willis, Will do.  Or is there an alternate printer driver available?
[04:20] <Art_> Like lprng?
[04:21] <paddy2k> link_36p, i had some problem with an NTFS drive there not too long ago and I had to delete the reference to it in /etc/fstab and then remount it. that might work for you! I'm no expert.
[04:22] <link_36p> i dont think i have an NTFS drive::o
[04:22] <Art_> Dr_willis, I'm trying to set up my brother in kubuntu.  He's 3K miles away.  We stumbled over the CUPS thing.
[04:23] <Art_> Dr_willis, He's a soso computer user.  I finally got him to try Fedora.
[04:29] <Kr4t05> Ugh...
[04:29] <Kr4t05> OK...
[04:29] <Kr4t05> So, I broke X while trying to do something stupid...
[04:30] <__mikem> what were you trying
[04:30] <Kr4t05> __mikem: I was trying to get AIGLX running on the nVidia beta drivers.
[04:31] <Kr4t05> Oh, wait...
[04:31] <Kr4t05> Scratch that...
[04:31] <Kr4t05> BRB
[04:31] <Kr4t05> quit
[04:32] <Fifty> Konqueror is crashing when I click on mpg files.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> dont click on them then. :P
[04:35] <Dr_willis> that would be the windows answer...
[04:35] <Fifty> lol
[04:35] <Dr_willis> oh wait - windows answer = reformat/reinstall
[04:36] <Fifty> windows answer = install linux >_> <_<
[04:36] <Jucato> (windows answer = reboot...)
[04:38] <Momal> windows answer = BSOD
[04:38] <__mikem> windows answer = pay microsoft more money
[04:38] <paddy2k> what about opening them from VLC?
[04:38] <Kr4t05> Hrm..
[04:38] <Fifty> that works, but I'd rather open them from konqueror >_<
[04:38] <Kr4t05> Ok... I can run startx from a TTY, but KDM refuses to work.
[04:38] <paddy2k> then associate MPG files with VLC
[04:39] <Fifty> no, it crashes when I select mpg files, it doesn't matter what they open with
[04:40] <paddy2k> oh just the selecting of them krashes it, try removing the lib that deals with MPEg files and reinstalling it.
[04:40] <Fifty> ok :)
[04:47] <koboi_> re
[04:47] <Kr4t05> Thanks.
[04:47] <Kr4t05> good news.
[04:47] <Kr4t05> It works.
[04:47] <koboi_> y a pas le canal francais la ??
[04:47] <Jucato> !fr
[04:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:48] <Kr4t05> GJ, Jucato
[04:48] <Jucato> Kr4t05: huh? what? :)
[04:48] <Kr4t05> Good job. ;)
[04:48] <Jucato> heh thanks :(
[04:48] <Jucato> err...
[04:48] <Jucato> :)
[04:50] <Fifty> I reinstalled all these libs that mentioned mpeg in the description, and now konqueror isn't crashing anymore. Thanks paddy2k ^.^
[04:53] <josh__> i need help
[04:53] <josh__> i'm in linux and i need to send files to another computer on my network running windows
[04:53] <josh__> how would i go about this?
[04:54] <Kr4t05> !samba
[04:54] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:54] <paddy2k> cool, my first big of giving help here payed off I only joined IRC 20 mins ago!
[04:54] <josh__> yeah
[04:54] <Fifty> lol paddy2k :P
[04:54] <josh__> how do i make my windows machine visible in samba
[04:55] <irish_wopr> is the windows machine hosting the file share?
[04:55] <josh__> umm
[04:55] <josh__> i suppose
[04:55] <josh__> i need to send a huge file to it
[04:56] <irish_wopr> then create a share on the windows machine, and use smbclient to connect to it
[04:56] <josh__> how do i do that
[04:56] <irish_wopr> smbclient if very much like using an ftp client
[04:56] <josh__> ok
[04:57] <josh__> yeah i just need it to show up in my smb:// folder
[04:57] <josh__> i thought this would be easy
[04:57] <josh__> i get an error when i click on samba shares saying i can't connect to teh workgroup
[04:58] <irish_wopr> you have to share the folder with write permissions
[04:59] <irish_wopr> to enable file sharing on windows, you have to select a folder, right click, go to sharing and security, and set up the share.
[04:59] <irish_wopr> if its winxp, turn off simple file sharing
[04:59] <irish_wopr> it will make life easier
[05:00] <juztin> question : what is the command to start the kde menu editor, so i don't have to go through system settings/panel/menu/edit k menu in order to edit the menu?
[05:01] <Jucato> juztin: right-click on the K Menu icon and select "Menu Editor"
[05:01] <Jucato> juztin: or Alt+F2 and enter "kmenuedit"
[05:01] <juztin> Jucato, thanks
[05:02] <josh__> omg
[05:02] <josh__> i can't do this
[05:02] <mluser-laptop> Anybody know the command I'm supposed to run after installing the fglrx packages?
[05:02] <josh__> i thought this would be so freaking simple
[05:02] <juztin> mluser-laptop, the command to check that it's installed properly?
[05:02] <Jucato> josh__: have you installed samba?
[05:03] <Jucato> I mean the package called "samba" ?
[05:03] <irish_wopr> josh__: check windows help to see how to set up a share
[05:04] <irish_wopr> josh__: then you have to make sure that you have network access to it (IE: firewall allowances, etc)
[05:04] <mluser-laptop> juztin: No.. there is something I have to run to modify the xorg.conf.. but I dont remmember what it is
[05:04] <josh__> oh the actual samba package wasn't installed
[05:05] <juztin> mluser-laptop, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:05] <juztin> iirc
[05:05] <mluser-laptop> juztin: thanks.. I'll try that now
[05:05] <juztin> np
[05:07] <josh__> !samba
[05:07] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:08] <nalioth> what!? i thought thorazine was the way to cooperate with Windows environments
[05:11] <BluDog_Anchorite> samba is not cakewalk, but its workable
[05:11] <BluDog_Anchorite> the client side is easy
[05:21] <josh__> how do i create a share in windows?
[05:21] <josh__> i've got everything setup
[05:21] <josh__> i just dont know how to make a share
[05:23] <qu1ckfr0st> hey i had some problems installing Codeine, it gave me a message like "uic was not found - set QTDIR put it in your path ?"
[05:24] <qu1ckfr0st> anyone have any advice?
[05:25] <josh__> why not use something else
[05:25] <josh__> have you tried automatix?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> ick. :P
[05:26] <Dr_willis> to set up windows to share a folder. ya use the properties/shareing tab
[05:26] <kamui> how do I make changes to my kde session?  I want to start compiz as my window manager at startup but I don't seem to have kontrol-center
[05:26] <kamui> also I need to find a way to map super to windows key
[05:27] <Parkotron> kamui: It's kcontrol you want.
[05:27] <unix_infidel> xev
[05:28] <kamui> Parkotron: for both?
[05:28] <Jucato> kamui: actually, you might have to manually edit some config files for that.
[05:28] <Parkotron> Definately for the second. I doubt for the first.
[05:29] <Jucato> !compiz
[05:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:30] <Jucato> btw, kamui, where's fuma? :P
[05:30] <kamui> I just apt-grabbed kontrol-autostart, possibly that will help, or I suppose I could edit ~/.kde/autostart
[05:30] <kamui> Jucato: You're teh first person to get the reference
[05:30] <kamui> :)
[05:30] <Jucato> heh
[05:31] <Jucato> just don't become a chi no ryu and you'll be fine :P
[05:31] <josh__> and the guy who was tyrying to install codeine
[05:31] <Jucato> kamui: I don't think you're going to be able to do what you want with compiz simply by putting it in Autostart.
[05:31] <josh__> just install the package
[05:32] <qu1ckfr0st> what do you mean?
[05:32] <josh__> go into adept
[05:32] <josh__> type codeine
[05:32] <Jucato> !codeine
[05:32] <ubotu> codeine: video player for KDE designed to be as simple as possible. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 153 kB, installed size 544 kB
[05:32] <josh__> and install the package
[05:32] <josh__> then run codeine and it will start right up
[05:33] <josh__> are you trying to do a manual installation or something?
[05:33] <Jucato> qu1ckfr0st: he means that Codeine can be easily installed from our repositories.
[05:33] <kamui> Jucato: what do you mean?
[05:33] <qu1ckfr0st> for some reason im searching it but it's not coming up.
[05:33] <josh__> enable ur universe and multiverse repositories
[05:33] <Jucato> qu1ckfr0st: probably because you don't have universe enabled
[05:33] <kamui> Jucato: so far after running the wm manually, the only thing I can't do is use the super key shortcuts I assigned
[05:33] <Jucato> !repository
[05:33] <kamui> They just don't work
[05:33] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:34] <josh__> just click on manage repositories in adept
[05:34] <Jucato> qu1ckfr0st: use that link ^^^^
[05:34] <josh__> and right click the ones that say universe or something else and click enable
[05:34] <josh__> then click apply and fetch updates
[05:34] <josh__> my explination sums it all up
[05:34] <Jucato> kamui: to be able to change the default window manager that KDE will use, you have to edit a configuration file. (I'm just not sure which one)
[05:35] <Jucato> compiz is a window manager, not just an app
[05:35] <kamui> Jucato: I just inteded to issue a compiz-start --replace to replace whatever wm was currently running at that point
[05:35] <kamui> dirty but simple and quick
[05:35] <kamui> works, just having issues with kde and my buttonmapping atm
[05:35] <Jucato> kamui: heh... if that's the recommended way to do it...
[05:36] <kamui> Jucato: I doubt its recommended, but #ubuntu-xgl doesn't seem to have any kde users
[05:36] <Jucato> go figure :)
[05:36] <kamui> so i've been having to piece it togetehr myself
[05:37] <Jucato> I'm not sure it'd be good to put a command in Autostart, though... but if that's what you want to do, just right-click on ~/.kde/Autostart and Create New > Link to Application
[05:37] <maltaethiron> hey guys, got a question:  how do i log into the root profile?
[05:37] <Jucato> (I find kcontrol-autostart to be unreliable...)
[05:37] <Jucato> maltaethiron: what do you mean by "root profile"? root account?
[05:38] <maltaethiron> jucato: yes, of course
[05:38] <Jucato> maltaethiron: root account is disabled in Ubuntu
[05:38] <Jucato> !sudo
[05:38] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:38] <Jucato> read up on that to give you an idea ^^^^
[05:38] <kamui> Jucato: the only thing broken for me is I still can't get the superkey to map.  Do I need to restart kde before I can use it?    What do you put in where it says enter root password?
[05:40] <Jucato> maltaethiron: if you really really want to enabled graphically logging in as root, follow that link
[05:40] <maltaethiron> ok thanks jucato
[05:40] <Jucato> kamui: use sudo
[05:40] <Jucato> or boot into recovery mode in GRUB
[05:40] <kamui> Jucato: this is at maintenance mode, when booting in single user mode because something in your system is broken and it doesn't boot to a login.
[05:41] <kamui> you know, press ctrl-R to enter maintenance mode
[05:41] <kamui> or something like that, maybe its ctrl-T
[05:41] <kamui> usually happens when there is a problem with the filesystem
[05:42] <Jucato> kamui: you can still do maintenance from the command line, even if you can't login graphically. Ctrl+Alt+F1 brings you to a console
[05:42] <Jucato> if there's a problem with the filesystem itself, not even root can do anything about that (unless it's a filesystem on another partition)
[05:42] <kamui> Jucato: this is WAY before we start loading daemons, so Im not even talking about not getting to gdm/kdm.  Im talking about right after the kernel boots and its loading the modules for the filesystem and then finally attempting to mount the filesystem
[05:42] <kamui> Jucato: but Im sure you could just boot from a livecd in that instance
[05:43] <Jucato> you could also boot into recovery/single user mode from GRUB. but like I said, if the filesystem itself is whacked, what use is logging into root when you can't even get the filesystem up?
[05:43] <kamui> Jucato: I guess its not very common in ubuntu, but I used to see it freqently on my debian box when one of my siblings would turn off the computer without shutting down properly
[05:43] <Jucato> so, yeah, Live CD
[05:44] <kamui> Jucato: doesn't recovery mode also ask for the root password?
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> catn someone duplicate a bug for me
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> on Edgy + Gaim
[05:44] <josh__> i am getting so mad
[05:44] <Jucato> kamui: depends. mine doesn't. (I forgot the option for that)
[05:44] <Jucato> I think if it asks for the root password, then it means you have enabled the root account
[05:44] <josh__> why the hell can't my windows machine be seen in samba shares or in network services
[05:45] <kamui> Jucato: one more thing, how could I go about testing if my super key is even mapped? is there an application that would show what keys are being pressed on the keyboard?  Because when I press the key combo it doesn't work, but when I  remap the combo to ctrl+alt+button, it works.  so Im sure its just not recognizing super.
[05:45] <kamui> do I need to restart kde before kcontrol keymap changes take effect?
[05:45] <Jucato> kamui: that I wouldn't know. haven't played around with Compiz... :P
[05:46] <kamui> Jucato: im takling about just plain kde now.  If I change the keymap in kde to 104US and enable xkb, do i have to restart kde before those changes take effect? Or is something broken here
[05:47] <Jucato> kamui: hm... probably restart X too? not really sure as I have not changed by keyboard mapping...
[05:49] <maltaethiron> jucato: how do i go about getting the root password once ive enabled gavical login?
[05:49] <Jucato> that page says it all (or at least it should...)
[05:49] <maltaethiron> grafical*
[05:49] <kamui> brb, restarting X
[05:49] <maltaethiron> !sudo
[05:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:50] <Jucato> maltaethiron: the section on enabling the root account
[05:50] <maltaethiron> yes, i did that
[05:50] <maltaethiron> but once i logged out and went to login as root
[05:51] <maltaethiron> i tried my password, but it didnt work
[05:51] <Momal> did you set a password for root ?
[05:51] <maltaethiron> er..no
[05:51] <Momal> sudo passwd
[05:51] <Jucato> maltaethiron: that's what I said about enabling the root account
[05:51] <Momal> then put in the pass then verify then thats roots new password
[05:51] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#head-6357ee1f3ec93078a7d7cbc2c627208117e9499d
[05:52] <maltaethiron> ty guys
[05:52] <maltaethiron> lets see if this worked...
[05:55] <kamui> well, autostart worked.  But my keymap is still broken
[05:55] <kamui> :(
[05:55] <Jucato> :(
[05:56] <Momal> xgl + compiz using latest nvidia drivers from website (and kde of course) anyone been successful wanna help me get it working ?
[05:56] <flaccid> !xgl
[05:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:56] <nixbox> hi all
[05:56] <nixbox> how do i log an ssh session?
[06:02] <Momal> hmm,,,, anyway I can install cdwg these days apt-get says it links to another package :S
[06:13] <kamui> I could really use some help mapping super to my win key
[06:13] <kamui> this just aint werkin fer me
[06:14] <t3h_r00t> jucato: look, i didnt break my computer yet!
[06:14] <t3h_r00t> (it's maltaethiron)
[06:15] <Jucato> t3h_r00t: heh.. just make sure you know what you're doing, and you'll be fine :P
[06:15] <paddy2k> has anyone has problems with flash not playing audio in Kubuntu?
[06:15] <t3h_r00t> jucato: yeah, i may not know linux THAT well, but im smart enough to not eff around with random commands and whatnot
[06:15] <unix_infidel> paddy2k: that's beause somethig is already using the sound device.
[06:15] <unix_infidel> !alsaoss
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsaoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <unix_infidel> !alsa-oss
[06:16] <ubotu> alsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10-1 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[06:16] <paddy2k> that would make sense!   And even know re-installing is easier than dealing with some broken system.
[06:18] <t3h_r00t> don't cry momal
[06:18] <unix_infidel> But most often i just have a tar backup of a install state i like :0
[06:18] <paddy2k> talking of XGL has anyone actually got them to work?
[06:18] <Momal> i have tried 8 different guides yet none work :S.
[06:19] <Momal> I did I had it working fine on a FX5200 now that I have a 7800GT it doesn't work
[06:19] <Momal> like GRRR
[06:19] <snapy> "vga=795 video=1280x1024@75" actually leaves refresh at @60
[06:20] <Momal> does your screen support more then 60 on 1280x1024 ?
[06:20] <snapy> yes, it does. in x11, for instance
[06:21] <snapy> Momal: nvidia 6600gt
[06:21] <kamui> what program should I use to map the special keys on my laptop?  It was all set in gnome with the original ubuntu install (automatically), so I assume kubuntu MUST have a way to do the same
[06:21] <Momal> what monitor you have?
[06:22] <snapy> Momal: fbset *shows* the fb settings, but how do i *set* fb settings of a console from itself (i guess it's not possible, but i prefer to ask)
[06:22] <Momal> good question lol
[06:23] <snapy> Momal: mine?
[06:23] <Momal> snapy: I was thinking along the lines that your monitor didn't support more then 60hz at that res thats why only went to that hz
[06:23] <snapy> Momal: also, what is the equivalent of fbset for x11? (statistics about x11 driver)
[06:25] <Momal> Dunknow havn't worked with X that much lol... anyone else know ?
[06:25] <snapy> thank you anyway :)
[06:27] <Dr_willis> since i got a lcd - the refresh rate dont matter much :)
[06:30] <snapy> Dr_willis: mine is lcd too, but my console 1280x768@60 and my 1280x768@60 in a windows game look completely differently, so i have to setup the monitor again everytime i switch between them, because there's no way i could change refresh in the game and it seems grub doesn't obey either
[06:30] <Makro2a> i think the alsa module snd-seq is not loaded by default
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Hmm,,   what game are ya refering to?
[06:31] <snapy> Makro2a: snd-seq has nothing to do with my fb
[06:31] <Makro2a> and it should be
[06:31] <Momal> does anyone in this channel have kde, compiz, xgl, nvidia working that can help me out ?
[06:31] <snapy> Makro2a: it's a soung module for midi stuff
[06:31] <Makro2a> snapy: i `m not talking with you..hey...there is more ppl here you see? ;)
[06:31] <snapy> Makro2a: ok :))
[06:31] <kamui> aah forget it, no point in bothering with kde, I can't get super to map, and my laptop volume keys don't work.  The only benefit is kdevelop is a matching dev application.  But fuxk it, I can just use gnome and eclipse
[06:32] <snapy> Dr_willis: gta
[06:32] <Dr_willis> snapy,  running under wine, and windows?
[06:32] <snapy> Dr_willis: (i mean "grand theft auto", by take two interactive)
[06:32] <snapy> Dr_willis: no, dual boot
[06:32] <Dr_willis> ugh.. how are you running it under linux then?
[06:33] <notech> didn't know gta was linux native
[06:33] <snapy> Dr_willis: never said i was
[06:33] <snapy> notech: never said it was
[06:33] <Dr_willis> then why is there even an ISSUE. :P
[06:33] <Dr_willis> ya got me totally confused.. guess i go back to watching tv..
[06:33] <mluser-laptop> !amarok
[06:33] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[06:33] <snapy> Dr_willis: lol
[06:34] <mluser-laptop> Anyone else having problems getting sound to come out of amarok?
[06:34] <mluser-laptop> This is a new install btw
[06:34] <snapy> mluser-laptop: me! me!
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> mulno
[06:34] <notech> makes no sense to me, looked like you said it looked completely different. if only playing in windows then how could it look different iin windows
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[06:34] <snapy> mluser-laptop: esp some win format
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> mluser-laptop, whats the problem?
[06:35] <snapy> notech: so...
[06:35] <mluser-laptop> Admiral_Chicago: I cant get amarok to play anything using the xine-engine, It says its playing them, but no sound
[06:35] <mluser-laptop> xmms on the other hand.. works just fine
[06:36] <snapy> notech: when i am in kubuntu, my settings show completely different than those from windows after i enter the game, ALTHOUGH they are exactly the same.
[06:36] <mluser-laptop> and the arts plugin for amarok is for an older version of amarok
[06:36] <snapy> notech: i want to avoid this, because i don't want to setup the screen anytime i switch between windows+game and kubuntu
[06:36] <maltaethiron> !seen ztem
[06:36] <ubotu> I haven't seen ztem recently
[06:36] <snapy> notech: i could do this in two ways:
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> mluser-laptop, dang i know the error but i can't remember it
[06:37] <mluser-laptop> I'm sure its something easy :)
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> try rescanning your collection. that may help
[06:37] <mluser-laptop> thats not it.. and I cant even play mp3 streams, or shoutcast like I can in my gentoo setup
[06:37] <snapy> notech: 1. change refresh in gta (refresh only, because i adore the resolution) (which is impossible to do, as the game doesn't obey the windows settings)
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> mluser-laptop, yea it usually is
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> mute?
[06:38] <snapy> notech: 2. change refresh in grub (refresh only, because i adore the resolution) (which seems grub doesn't accept)
[06:38] <snapy> notech: is it clearer now?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> or are there some newer ones now that go over 60?
[06:39] <snapy> notech: if i changed refresh, my monitor will treat them as different modes and therefore store them separately -- perhaps this is the relevant info that i missed
[06:40] <snapy> Dr_willis: yes, my monitor supports @75 and @85 in x11, that's why i only need to do this in grub
[06:40] <notech> i'm somewhat confused but sounds like an issue with the game. like the game changes refresh rate on you.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> im not seeing how the lcd is doing 85 and 75, :P
[06:41] <Dr_willis> or is the lcd just changeing positions or somtning?
[06:42] <snapy> Dr_willis: it's not the monitor, it's the video card that produces that. and for it, it does matter. also, the monitor doesn't show the difference, because of the typically low latency, but it still detects it as a different screen mode and behaves accordingly (i.e. stores the settings separately, which is the only thing that i need)
[06:42] <snapy> Dr_willis: exactly! changing positions
[06:43] <Dr_willis> snapy,  why not just set up X to use the same refresh rate so the positions are the same.. assuming the different rates dont look differently?
[06:43] <snapy> Dr_willis: plus some vertical bands of blur
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[06:43] <Dr_willis> is this a dvi conected monitor?
[06:43] <snapy> Dr_willis: i have just explained this in full detail, read above
[06:44] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: you drive a dodge?
[06:44] <snapy> Dr_willis: no, it's not
[06:44] <Dr_willis> unix_infidel,  i got several dodges' :P i work for DaimlerChrysler.
[06:44] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: serveral?
[06:44] <unix_infidel> several? :{P
[06:44] <unix_infidel> yes, that's my dr. z mustache.
[06:45] <Dr_willis> in the last 12 years.. lets see.. several trucucks,  minivans, convertable,
[06:45] <Dr_willis> right now got a Dakota truck, and a  Caliber.
[06:45] <Admiral_Chicago> #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:45] <unix_infidel> caliber is a nice short term compact imho.  not sure how well it'll work on the long run :P
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Yea. the one we got has the super duper breaks and Allwheeldrive..
[06:46] <Dr_willis> :) its got git up and go.. and  when ya slam on the breaks.. it tosses ya through the windshield.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> good milage.. rides nice..
[06:46] <Dr_willis> and ya can haul a lot.
[06:47] <plugs> congratulations
[06:47] <Dr_willis> Wife hates it - she cant see where the car ends.. she cant see the hood from the drivers seat. ... so shes always stoping short when parking.
[06:47] <snapy> Momal: btw, if my monitor actually supports @75.02 in x11, should i specify it as @75.02 in grub (rather than @75)?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> The new Nitro looks  nice also. :)
[06:49] <Momal> I dont' think that should matter... 75 should work if the monitor goes there :S
[06:58] <Dr_willis> crank it up to<PHONE_NUMBER>00mhz! :P
[07:09] <plugs> !botsnack
[07:09] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:14] <mark_> hihi
[07:19] <mark_> channel is dead?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> moo
[07:20] <mark_> moooo?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> Muu!
[07:20] <Dr_willis> fortune | cowsay
[07:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:20] <mark_> lol
[07:21] <mark_> im back from the jaws of SuSE
[07:23] <mark_> SuSE was so slow (like always) and the package manager was broken from install
[07:23] <mark_> aka they shipped it with a broken package manager >.>
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i forgot my password to kwallet, how can i over ride this
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> mark_, that sucks
[07:27] <mark_> ya
[07:27] <mark_> the only reason i switched was because i thought ubuntu was the cause of my constant computer crashes
[07:27] <mark_> turned out it was the nvidia driver
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> mark_, you fix it?
[07:30] <mark_> not really
[07:30] <mark_> i just run without the driver now
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> mark_, the propriety package?
[07:30] <mark_> yes
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> ah you use nv?
[07:31] <mark_> yep
[07:31] <mark_> and its actually a lot better than i thought it would be
[07:31] <mark_> or actually its better than it used to be
[07:32] <mark_> no more combing in videos and much faster drawing times
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> good
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !info kwallet
[07:35] <ubotu> Package kwallet does not exist in any distro I know
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> what is that program called
[07:36] <mark_> k wallet
[07:36] <mark_> lol
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> it handles all my passwords...
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> space?
[07:36] <plugs> kdewallet?
[07:36] <plugs> !info kdewallet
[07:36] <mark_> !info kdewallet
[07:36] <ubotu> Package kdewallet does not exist in any distro I know
[07:36] <ubotu> Package kdewallet does not exist in any distro I know
[07:36] <mark_> you sure ubotu?
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ah yes
[07:37] <mark_> !botsnack
[07:37] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:37] <plugs> yay for derivatives
[07:38] <fdoving> !info kwalletmanager
[07:38] <ubotu> kwalletmanager: wallet manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 334 kB, installed size 796 kB
[07:38] <fdoving> there ya go.
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> plugs, i'm doing limits right now
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> so boring
[07:50] <Admiral_Chicago> great...no man page
[07:52] <plugs> heh yay for calculus homework
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i fall asleep all the time because i get so bored in class
[07:53] <plugs> my class is actually alright. at my school all the advanced math teachers are cool
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i get the concepts real easy and i can do them, i just don't like it being repeated to me all over again
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> plugs, i'm in college see
[07:54] <plugs> youre in college and crap is being repeated to you? weird i always thought everything goes at a blazingly fast speed
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> nope that not really true. i go to a small liberal arts college though (monmouth college not the one in NJ)
[08:04] <kkathman> what CLI command do I need to check if a lib is installed?
[08:05] <kkathman> like libsdl, liblcms  etc?
[08:05] <Healot> sudo ldconfig -v
[08:06] <fdoving> or 'ldconfig -p' (faster)
[08:06] <fdoving> only prints the current cache.
[08:08] <fdoving> kkathman: you can also use 'dpkg -l|grep libsdl' for example.
[08:09] <fdoving> that is looking at packages.
[08:09] <kkathman> ahh ok.. Im testdriving a new image program called pixel and it says it needs libsdl and few others... apparently they were installed cuz the program works :)
[08:14] <nick_> when i go to display in system settings i get "The module Display cannot be loaded"
[08:15] <fdoving> is that edgy?
[08:17] <nick_> anyone kno?
[08:17] <ningbojoe> I was just wondering what is the best Newsreader Client to use on Kubuntu. Thank you for any help.
[08:21] <fdoving> ningbojoe: knode
[08:21] <Momal> Can someone tell me if there is a way to reset kubuntu like restore all the defaults for kde and programs that are default with kubuntu
[08:21] <fdoving> Momal: move /home/username/.kde out of the way.
[08:21] <fdoving> Momal: you can do this in konsole with this command: mv ~/.kde dot-kde
[08:22] <ningbojoe> Thank u fdoving I will give it a try.
[08:22] <Momal> yea thats for kde though... I mean all of kdes settings global settings, all configs etc
[08:22] <kkathman> ningbojoe:  if that isnt your cup of tea, pan is pretty good :)
[08:23] <kkathman> or even Opera has a very good news reader
[08:23] <fdoving> Momal: if you want to restore -everything- to the way it was after install, the easiest way might be to reinstall.
[08:23] <Momal> sorta like format and reinstall but without loosing my files and extra isntalled stuff eg webserver and that
[08:23] <fdoving> Momal: depends largely on what settings you're thinking about.
[08:24] <fdoving> Momal: all KDE user-settings is in ~/.kde
[08:24] <kraut> moin
[08:25] <ningbojoe> Great, thanks for your help. I probably be back as I am a complete newbie, but enjoying it so far.
[08:25] <nick_> is compiz and xgl as easy to install as ckecking them in the repository?
[08:25] <Momal> no
[08:25] <nick_> and installing
[08:25] <Momal> hell no
[08:25] <Momal> lol
[08:25] <fdoving> ningbojoe: feel free to come back :)
[08:25] <nick_> what do you all have to set up
[08:25] <Momal> i just went through sooo much crap trying with xgl and stuff lol
[08:25] <Momal> xgl is fine just wait till beryl comes out
[08:26] <ningbojoe> I will do.
[08:27] <nick_> whats teh next step for installing agter i got my nvidia drivers installed
[08:32] <__osh__> --------
[08:32] <__osh__> !beryl
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <BigEis> wha kind of processors do most people run withkubuntu?
[08:33] <BigEis> i have amd athlon 840mhz, and its not that smooth
[08:35] <BigEis> anyone?
[08:35] <Momal> berly is at #berly its going to be new combination of cgwd and compiz
[08:35] <Momal> #beryl **************
[08:38] <BigEis> anyone talking?
[08:38] <fdoving> no.
[08:39] <fdoving> :)
[08:39] <BigEis> fdoving: what type of processordo you run with kubuntu?
[08:39] <fdoving> G4 1.2Ghz
[08:39] <BigEis> ooh, beats mine out of the water
[08:40] <fdoving> a athlon 840 should do just fine.
[08:40] <fdoving> how much RAM?
[08:41] <Momal> I have a amdx2 4200 and 2gb ram... but I had kubuntu running on a 1ghz with 512mb ram fine awhile back
[08:41] <fdoving> my previous laptop was a dell inspiron with 866Mhz, and 512MB RAM. KDE ran just fine.
[08:42] <fdoving> I have to go to work, or a course rather.
[08:42] <fdoving> bye all.
[08:48] <snapy> how do i change the resolution of a text terminal without restarting computer?
[08:51] <abaldwin> hey
[08:51] <abaldwin> Im back again
[08:51] <abaldwin> I got the dualboot to work with kubuntu and fedora
[08:52] <abaldwin> hello
[08:52] <abaldwin> oi
[08:52] <abaldwin> hol
[08:52] <abaldwin> bonjour
[08:52] <Healot> !spam
[08:52] <abaldwin> no tem ninguem?
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <abaldwin> I have a little question....
[08:53] <Healot> !ask
[08:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:54] <abaldwin> oh..ok...I just installed a dual boot with fedora core 5 and kubuntu on a 15gb master drive, and have a 200gb drive I want them to share, but I believe I erred in that I told the fedora install to call the slave drive /home
[08:54] <abaldwin> now, I want to move the fedora /home back onto the master, and just call the slave /media/hdb (which is what kubu is calling it)
[08:54] <abaldwin> so I can access rw from either install data on the slave
[08:55] <Healot> fix your fstab entry for both installation
[08:55] <abaldwin> yeah, I figure that part should be easy enough, tell /etc/fstab to mount /dev/hdb at /media/hdb, then, likely, I am going to place a link to that dir from either /home
[08:55] <Healot> map your mount points to your desired partition
[08:56] <abaldwin> the thng is...how do I move the fedora /home from the slave onto the master?
[08:56] <abaldwin> mapping mount points....how do I do that?
[08:57] <abaldwin> just so you know, at the moment I am logged into the FC5 install, too, I dont know if that poses difficulty while requesting help here...nobody on #fedora is responding
[08:57] <abaldwin> I figure I need to be logged into the fedora install to affect changes to the fedora /home anyway
[08:58] <abaldwin>  mapping mount points....how do I do that?
[08:58] <abaldwin> * BigEis has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[08:58] <abaldwin> abaldwin just so you know, at the moment I am logged into the FC5 install, too, I dont know if that poses difficulty while requesting help here...nobody on #fedora is responding
[08:58] <abaldwin> abaldwin I figure I need to be logged into the fedora install to affect changes to the fedora /home anyway
[09:00] <abaldwin> ok...Ill google mapping mount points...
[09:14] <xaxxon_> I'm having trouble following the directions to get nvidia binary drivers running.. first because the directions are for using a different package manager I think (synaptic vs adept)..
[09:14] <xaxxon_> is this a ubuntu vs kubuntu thing?
[09:17] <xaxxon_> ah, screw it.  I'll just use ubuntu
[09:18] <r0t0r00t3r> sup
[09:22] <Healot> wazzzupppp
[09:22] <Healot> it's the same OS :-
[09:23] <plugs> how do i format a drive?
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> plugs, what do you want to do?
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i mean specifically
[09:27] <plugs> format my ipod
[09:27] <mark_> sudo rm -rf / is good
[09:28] <plugs> so if it's /dev/sda2, i should sudo rm -rf /dev/sda2 ?
[09:28] <mark_> well dunno if that would work, but it would remove everything on the ipg
[09:28] <mark_> ipod*
[09:29] <mark_> and probably brick it too
[09:29] <plugs> you can't brick an ipod.
[09:29] <plugs> Ever.
[09:29] <mark_> you tell nasty lies
[09:29] <plugs> well you physically can but duh
[09:29] <XTorchedX> is java already set up on this when you install?
[09:29] <XTorchedX> or do i have to apt-get something
[09:29] <mark_> no
[09:30] <mark_> apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[09:30] <XTorchedX> !java
[09:30] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:30] <mark_> all you need to do
[09:30] <mark_> use gparted plugs
[09:30] <XTorchedX> use what?
[09:31] <mark_> Correct URL is: http://www.pi.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/creation.html
[09:31] <mark_> oops
[09:31] <arunkale> hey people
[09:31] <arunkale> can anyone help me to set up amule?
[09:31] <mark_> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[09:31] <XTorchedX> yeah i did that
[09:31] <XTorchedX> i knew what you meant
[09:32] <mark_> go into adept and alter your repositories to have multiverse added on to every one that has universe next to it
[09:32] <XTorchedX> i did that yesterday
[09:32] <XTorchedX> it's working fine
[09:32] <mark_> well you have java now
[09:32] <snapy> how do i change the resolution of a text terminal without restarting computer?
[09:32] <XTorchedX> cheers
[09:32] <mark_> view, font, enlarge font?
[09:34] <mark_> bye
[09:34] <arunkale> does any one here use amule?
[09:34] <mark_> not i
[09:34] <arunkale> okay
[09:34] <XTorchedX> only for carrying aproduce
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> XTorchedX, no its not
[09:36] <XTorchedX> what's not what?
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> arunkale, i don't
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> installed on your computer by default
[09:36] <XTorchedX> ohh
[09:36] <XTorchedX> yeah i went over this with mark_ already
[09:36] <XTorchedX> but thanks
[09:37] <XTorchedX> it's installing as we speak
[09:39] <plugs> gparted doesnt see my ipod! buh.
[09:41] <plugs> ah wait yeah it does
[09:41] <mark_> switch to your ipod using the switcher in the top right
[09:41] <plugs> yea i found that hehe
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> plugs, amarok does ipod support
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> XTorchedX, it takes a wihle
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> or at least it did for me
[09:47] <plugs> yeah, i use amarok
[09:51] <snapy> how can i change text console resolution *without* rebooting (that is, not from grub/lilo, but while i am in the console)?
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> snapy, i'm pretty sure you can't
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> the konsole isn't part of X
[09:53] <snapy> Admiral_Chicago: is it so much kernel-dependent?
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> snapy, yes iirc. konsole in KDE might be able to be changed
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> go to settings >> font
[09:55] <snapy> Admiral_Chicago: i am talking about ttys, not about vts, so it has nothing to do with x11/kde
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> snapy, that...no
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> you can't change that from what i know
[09:55] <snapy> Admiral_Chicago: i am talking about what i access by pressing ctrl+alt+f1-6
[09:55] <snapy> Admiral_Chicago: why, is it so much kernel-dependent?
[09:56] <abaldwin> ha....silly me,...I''m back again
[09:56] <abaldwin> I decided the heck with dual booting fedora and kubu, removed the 15gb master drive, made teh 200gb the only drive in the machine and reinstalled ONLY kubuntu...wny not
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> snapy, because that has no GUI attached to it
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, i've done that
[09:57] <abaldwin> I''ve beenusing fedora or rh for 7 years now...time for a change
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> just said screw it and got off dapper and went to Edgy
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> but I'm going to try out SuSE i think
[09:57] <abaldwin> only, I know I''m going to have a lot to learnagain all of a sudden, at a time when I really need to be working, not fiddling and learning,,,but where''s the fun in just working without fiddling and learning?
[09:57] <snapy> Admiral_Chicago: i think we're not on the same page, but i appreciate your kindness to help (and thank you)
[09:58] <abaldwin> getting used to sudo and apt after 7 years of su and yum and rpm...
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> snapy, i know what you mean but what you have to realize is that tty is a fail safe terminal
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> if you can alter it a bit. say font, color etc there would be dependent programs
[09:59] <abaldwin> why isn''t the mozilla suite (or seamonkey now?) in adept?  it's there but greyed out...I like the entiremozilla suite for mail and composer and everything
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> and a fail safe works best because if the font dependecy was down, there would be NO way to fix it
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, not sure
[10:00] <snapy> Admiral_Chicago: i already use 1280x1024 on my *text* terminal (tty) and i can change it to whatever i want at any time with no need for a.. gui. all i need is not to have to do it from grub/lilo, but from an application. i guess this is impossible, but the reason can't be the lack of a gui, but rather its being very kernel-dependent (as i suggested)
[10:00] <abaldwin> what about gaim? if adept doesn''t show these things, does that mean I can''t apt-get them?
[10:00] <XTorchedX> i'm trying to install freenet
[10:00] <XTorchedX> and i'm getting some errors that i don't understand
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, gaim should install fine
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, command line
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> XTorchedX, post the last line
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> snapy, you lost me
[10:01] <XTorchedX> Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[10:01] <XTorchedX> that's the first line
[10:01] <XTorchedX> then it lists some stuff
[10:01] <snapy> XTorchedX: don't install freenet, because what you may not know is that it promotes anonymity
[10:01] <XTorchedX> is it because i don't have gnome?
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> XTorchedX, no
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc, you can't do AWT in java on linux
[10:02] <XTorchedX> i think it's an interesting idea and i want to look at it snapy
[10:02] <snapy> XTorchedX: have you installed any gtk app on your comp?
[10:02] <XTorchedX> not that i know of
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> i had a problem with the AWT event when I was coding last semester
[10:02] <snapy> XTorchedX: then why don't you try tor?
[10:02] <abaldwin> oh...gaim is in there
[10:02] <XTorchedX> tor is about anonymous use of the internet snapy
[10:02] <XTorchedX> freenet is about an internet within the internet
[10:03] <XTorchedX> haven't you used freenet before snapy?
[10:03] <snapy> XTorchedX: that's nice
[10:03] <snapy> XTorchedX: tried to
[10:03] <snapy> XTorchedX: but it was too memory hungry
[10:03] <XTorchedX> it's not tor
[10:05] <snapy> XTorchedX: i know it's not tor, what do you mean it's not tor?
[10:05] <XTorchedX> i mean they're different
[10:05] <snapy> XTorchedX: so install gtk
[10:05] <snapy> XTorchedX: this is what you may need
[10:05] <snapy> XTorchedX: i know they're different
[10:05] <XTorchedX> then why did you tell me to use tor if you know they're different
[10:07] <snapy> XTorchedX: i know it now, after what you explained me what freenet was about
[10:08] <XTorchedX> alright
[10:08] <snapy> XTorchedX: actually i think the way our replies match each other can only be explained by substantial lag between us. can you please confirm that?
[10:08] <XTorchedX> no?
[10:09] <snapy> i think it was a temporary problem. or perhaps you lost one of my replies.
[10:09] <snapy> XTorchedX: anyhow, install gtk
[10:12] <abaldwin> I''ll be back....
[10:13] <XTorchedX> i didn't know alec baldwin uses kubuntu
[10:18] <abaldwin> I thknk I''ve gotten a little spoiled...although yum started to break stuff everytime I did an update lately, it gave me access to thousands and thousand of pkgs...and I''m not seeing that here with adept...should I be doing something esle t ofind stuff I want? synaptic or something?
[10:19] <abaldwin> I htink I see folks on here that I''ve seen hanging around LJ communities
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, 1800 for dapper
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, i'm on LJ.
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> moderator of  firefoxusers....
[10:20] <abaldwin> 1800 pkgs available?  what do I have to do to see them all?
[10:20] <abaldwin> I''m photodharma on LJ
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> !mulniverse
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mulniverse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> disregard that
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> !multiverse
[10:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:20] <abaldwin> are you on linux and or linuxsupport on lj?
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> not that i know oy
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm on ubuntu users
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, that your user id?
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> err name
[10:21] <abaldwin> like  I could yum install logjam and gnutella and stuff
[10:21] <abaldwin> on LJ my name is photodharma (http://photodharma.livejournal.com)
[10:21] <abaldwin> I will have to join ubuntu now...I''ve been on fedora forever
[10:22] <abaldwin> and mozilla
[10:23] <munuel> hello i have problem to install sun-java5-jre with Adept, i can not activate the Installation
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, you need multiverse and universe most likely
[10:24] <abaldwin> joining ubuntu_users as we speek
[10:25] <abaldwin> what's that, repos I need to add for apt?
[10:25] <abaldwin> how do i add them?
[10:25] <abaldwin> then adept will see all of those 1800 pkgs?
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> uhh there is a guide somewhere
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo
[10:25] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:26] <Admiral_Chicago> yea that link
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, you're a unitarian?
[10:28] <abaldwin> I am  UU, yes
[10:29] <igor> how can I find my NAT router IP?
[10:29] <abaldwin> ok, I''m going to poke around and figure out how to add these additional repos
[10:29] <igor> can someone help?
[10:32] <abaldwin> I see I have stuff that is not in the Kmenu...I have synaptic in /usr/sbin/ but it is not in kmenu, just addd it
[10:32] <abaldwin> I probably have other stuff I want and don''t konw it
[10:33] <abaldwin> Oh..I see, running synaptic from kmenu is stupid...I need to sudo start it from comand line to be able to affect changes anyway, eh
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> !info esd
[10:33] <ubotu> Package esd does not exist in any distro I know
[10:33] <igor> how can I find my NAT router IP?
[10:36] <munuel> i have a conflict: j2se-commen in the Details of java-sun in adept how can i solve ist?
[10:38] <Admiral_Chicago> yup this digg thing has certainly gone too far
[10:38] <abaldwin> I don''t see Brazilian Portuguese support...just Portuguese (portugual)
[10:39] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, maybe thats a project you could head...
[10:40] <plugs> !chmod
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <abaldwin> well, I mean, it exists for KDE and what not...I just didn''t see it in the base ubuntu stuff
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> plugs, might just want to mann that
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, what do you mean
[10:42] <abaldwin> although I know there are plenty ubuntu users in brasil
[10:43] <abaldwin> I was sifting through the language support in synaptic, and there is KDE brasilian portuguese, but in the base languge support there is not
[10:43] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, bah i hate college dyers
[10:43] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see
[10:43] <plugs> ya i did
[10:44] <plugs> can i write to a NTFS drive?
[10:44] <plugs> i got this:
[10:44] <plugs> "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdd1': Read-only file system"
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> plugs, not really
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> there are ways to do it
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> but it's finda unsafe
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> there was a guide i read somewhere onlin
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> but i don't have the link
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> you can do it, but NTSF is so screwed.
[10:48] <marcial> my printer don't works with kubuntu
[10:48] <marcial> What I do?
[10:49] <plugs> alas!
[10:49] <marcial> mi impresora no funciona con kubuntu
[10:49] <marcial> que hago?
[10:49] <dhq> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[10:49] <dhq> kernel?
[10:52] <benny> test
[10:54] <benny> test123
[10:56] <plugs> what are some Konsole alternatives?
[10:57] <snapy> plugs: konsole has no serious alternatives (that is, as featured as konsole)
[10:57] <snapy> plugs: gnome-terminal claims to be one of them
[10:57] <snapy> plugs: also, i personally prefer xterm to even konsole
[10:59] <plugs> xterm then?
[10:59] <plugs> what's that drop-down one
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> !it
[11:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Riddell, how is akademy?
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> i've been staying up on your blog about it
[11:04] <Riddell> it's great
[11:05] <Riddell> seems like KDE 4 is really going to happen, we weren't just imagining it :)
[11:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Riddell, btw thanks for fixing that bug on upslash. the one about missing artwork
[11:05] <Admiral_Chicago> i really want to go
[11:05] <Admiral_Chicago> and its in dublin
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Riddell, any art come out of akademy yet?
[11:07] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not away...
[11:08] <main2> i would like to install ONE package from the edgy repos, using adept
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> main2, which one?
[11:08] <main2> (it resides in the 'universe'
[11:08] <main2> Admiral_Chicago: VLC
[11:08] <XTorchedX> i reside in the universe
[11:08] <main2> (the current package in the repos of dapper is broken
[11:08] <main2> Admiral_Chicago: but i dont know what i should add to my sources.list
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm. i don't think the verisons are different
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> main2, sec
[11:09] <main2> im not planning on running 'update' with that repos in my list - ok
[11:09] <main2> i tought that 0.8.6 is in the edgy repos
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> what version are you on?
[11:09] <crimsun> it is
[11:10] <crimsun> however, the version I uploaded last night is in binary NEW awaiting admin approval
[11:10] <main2> dapper?
[11:10] <crimsun> you'll probably want the dapper backport of the newer version
[11:10] <main2> Admiral_Chicago: i already filed a bug report on launchpad (guys of #videolan helped me a great way..)
[11:10] <crimsun> 0.8.6-svn20060918.debian-1ubuntu2, that is.
[11:10] <main2> YES!!
[11:10] <main2> can i get that one via apt?
[11:11] <crimsun> ro
[11:11] <crimsun> non
[11:11] <crimsun> as I stated above, it needs to enter Edgy first before it's eligible for backporting to Dapper.
[11:11] <main2> ok, but there currently is a version in edgy
[11:11] <main2> 0.8.6, which i would love to have..
[11:12] <main2> is it possible to add the repos to my sources.list (without running 'update') and then install it?
[11:12] <crimsun> there's already a dapper backport of the earlier svn snapshot
[11:12] <crimsun> you don't want that one.
[11:12] <crimsun> wait a half-day for the newer one
[11:13] <crimsun> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=vlc
[11:14] <main2> i know what a port of a piece of software is..
[11:14] <main2> but a 'backport'.. :X
[11:14] <crimsun> a backport is a source package from the current development branch compiled in an older stable branch
[11:14] <crimsun> in this case, we do backports from Edgy to Dapper
[11:15] <crimsun> they're in the dapper-backports repository
[11:15] <main2> from unstable - to stable
[11:15] <main2> do i see that right?
[11:15] <crimsun> right
[11:15] <main2> 'they're in the dapper-backports repository' but not complete yet
[11:16] <main2> ?
[11:16] <main2> ahhhh wait, they are in the que to be set in dapper?
[11:16] <crimsun> no
[11:16] <crimsun> the URL above is for Edgy
[11:17] <crimsun> a package can't be backported to Dapper if it's not already available in Edgy
[11:17] <crimsun> because the source package I uploaded earlier generates new binary packages, the packages require manual admin approval (called binary NEW)
[11:17] <main2> crimsun: ok that sounds clear to me, but i wonder how they are going to end up in the dapper repos then
[11:17] <main2> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:18] <main2> hehe! :-))
[11:18] <crimsun> well, after an admin ACCEPTs the binary packages, they'll be published into Edgy. Then the dapper-backporters team will request a backport of said source package to dapper-backports. The admins will take care of that.
[11:19] <main2> that is great news to me, i've been trying to compile vlc on my kubuntu box but i got stuck with a nasty error
[11:19] <main2> http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=26764
[11:20] <main2> the dapper vlc package is broken: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/62217
[11:21] <crimsun> yes, I'm the person who responded to that bug.
[11:21] <main2> in short: i had no binaries i could install - and i couldnt use the source either
[11:21] <crimsun> (and the person who did the uploads earlier)
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i just got some spam in my inbox...considering opening it because i'm on firefox and linux
[11:21] <main2> ur a cool guy!! =)
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i feel so cool sitting on IRC talking about linux at 4.23 in the morning
[11:23] <main2> Admiral_Chicago: only talking about it already makes you feel cool
[11:23] <main2> linux is probably sooo much - way cooler then you think then.
[11:24] <main2> (can anyone stripe trough 'probably', its a fact)
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> main2, when i show off XGL, everyone goes nuts
[11:25] <main2> Admiral_Chicago: when you see the bloody chick on my cube you will go nuts
[11:25] <main2> nsfw: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1131/angelinajolie4ar4.jpg
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> main2, mine has a a different piece of artwork
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> nuce
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> nice*
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> but i got it off a site, let me try to find it
[11:28] <main2> hey crimsun, you made my day
[11:28] <main2> you rock =)
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> http://kubuntu.org/art/kubuntu-usplash-dapper.png kinda like that
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> but white and black with lines and stuff
[11:30] <solemnwarning-lt> Can I setup a kubuntu laptop to hibernate instead of having to shutdown/reboot?
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> solemnwarning-lt, on edgy
[11:31] <solemnwarning-lt> huh?
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> but that won't come out for another month
[11:31] <solemnwarning-lt> So the current version can't hibernate?
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> solemnwarning-lt, not that i know off
[11:32] <main2> solemnwarning-lt: i have heard more people asking for this...
[11:32] <main2> hibernation is quite a complex process
[11:32] <solemnwarning-lt> 1. Copy memory to disk
[11:32] <solemnwarning-lt> 2. ???
[11:33] <solemnwarning-lt> 3. Profit
[11:33] <main2> the way you say it, it might look easy
[11:33] <solemnwarning-lt> lol
[11:33] <solemnwarning-lt> The kernel supports hibernation
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> its number
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> 7
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> i haven't tested it out yet. i wonder if hibernating will mess with my log ins
[11:35] <flaccid> what is that program that little x program that lets you know the keys you pressed on mouse or whater
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> like my gaim and stuff
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> huh
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> thats strange
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i can only end the session and i'm on edgy
[11:49] <flaccid> what is the program that tells you the button number you press with your mouse
[11:49] <main2> flaccid: you dont mean x-eyes do you?
[11:50] <flaccid> i don't think so
[11:50] <Jucato> hm...
[11:50] <flaccid> it goes along with xmodmap
[11:50] <flaccid> i thought it was xmodmap
[11:51] <Jucato> isn't it?
[11:51] <flaccid> it didn't bring up a gui
[11:52] <Mortice> flaccid xev?
[11:54] <flaccid> thats it
[11:54] <flaccid> ur a legend!
[11:55] <Mortice> flaccid: heh. hope that helps :)
[11:56] <flaccid> immensely
[11:56] <flaccid> i love that program
[11:56] <flaccid> it doesn't lie
[11:56] <Daboone72> Hiya I'm very new to kubuntu how do I download the kernel source for my current kernel?
[11:57] <Daboone72> I'm trying to get a PCMCIA modem I have going for which there is a patch to serial_cs but I don't know if it's already been applied or not...
[11:59] <flaccid> !source
[11:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:59] <flaccid> hmm
[11:59] <Jucato> !easysource
[11:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:59] <Jucato> that one?
[11:59] <flaccid> nah kernel source
[11:59] <Jucato> ah
[11:59] <flaccid> its sudo apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27
[11:59] <flaccid> but you do that (uname -r) or something?
[12:00] <flaccid> for Daboone72
[12:00] <Daboone72> thanks flaccid remembered how to use apt-get
[12:00] <Daboone72> it's now renamed to linux-source d
[12:00] <flaccid> what just sudo apt-get linux-source?
[12:00] <flaccid> virtual package?
[12:01] <Daboone72> yep it looks like a virtual package mapping to the current kernel
[12:01] <flaccid> ah sweet
[12:01] <Daboone72> which is good because I don't know to specify minor numbers either
[12:01] <Daboone72> 2.6.15-26 etc
[12:02] <flaccid> cool
[12:02] <flaccid> you may not need the whole source
[12:03] <flaccid> you can get the headers only
[12:05] <tmdx120> REGISTER tmdx120
[12:06] <raven79> hi all
[12:07] <raven79> fdoving: hi ;)
[12:08] <raven79> ah hi all other of witch i don't remember nick who spoke with me last time ;)
[12:11] <main2> Admiral_Chicago: it would be nice if i could have a callender on the top / bottom of my cube
[12:11] <main2> any idea's beside a set of images.. ?
[12:11] <raven79> main2: xgl?
[12:12] <main2> yes
[12:12] <raven79> i was able to setup an image with xgl
[12:12] <raven79> you should use an svg image
[12:12] <main2> raven79: thats not the problem.
[12:13] <main2> raven79: i tought that only png can be used?
[12:13] <raven79> why?
[12:13] <arunkale> does anyone here know of any good cms/portal system which is not too hard to customise?
[12:13] <raven79> you should use png and svg
[12:13] <main2> raven i just opened csm, and indeed - i can use svg as well
[12:13] <raven79> but i was able to setup an image using svg format
[12:14] <raven79> csm?
[12:14] <main2> raven, but how do i tell a svg image to change every month... :P
[12:14] <raven79> arunkale: drupal
[12:14] <main2> compizsettingsmanager
[12:15] <raven79> main2: ah ok...you should use imagemagick....
[12:15] <raven79> arunkale: i read somewhere it wins a prize as best csm....
[12:16] <raven79> arunkale: cms*
[12:16] <arunkale> do you know how to customise it?
[12:17] <zorglu_> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 <- "Microsoft has a majority market share" is a bug marked critical by mark shuttleworth. i see they are having fun at cannonical :)
[12:17] <raven79> arunkale: no i never used it...but usually you should download it locally, then unpackage it, modify and so on...surely there are a lot of tutorial on the net...(from beginners to expert user)....i'm sorry but i really don't know it.
[12:17] <arunkale> thanks :)
[12:17] <raven79> arunkale: we are here to help each other ;)
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> main2, i want to be able to use the cube
[12:18] <arunkale> i currently use wordpress, but i need to add some portal-like features
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> including top & bottom
[12:19] <main2> Admiral_Chicago: ?
[12:19] <main2> you do have xgl you said
[12:19] <Admiral_Chicago> i do
[12:19] <raven79> arunkale: ah it's another good cms...but what does it not has got?
[12:19] <Admiral_Chicago> i want to be able put a window on the top
[12:19] <Jucato> arunkale: you might want to peek at http://www.opensourcecms.com
[12:20] <arunkale> Well, I need to create a user system.. something like yahoo.. where you can use one id for a lot of services
[12:20] <Admiral_Chicago> and have that bend. like you can to that on the sides of the cube but not the top
[12:20] <arunkale> Jucato: I've checked that out, but WordPress is the only CMS with a good user interface
[12:20] <raven79> arunkale: the Jucato tip is really good i know that site me too...
[12:21] <main2> Admiral_Chicago: i dont know if thats possible
[12:21] <Jucato> well WordPress is basically a blogging type of CMS so it doubt if it has portal-like features
[12:21] <raven79> Admiral_Chicago: no you can put only an image on the top of cube...
[12:21] <main2> Admiral_Chicago: i got my angie on top, and want a callender on the bottom.. :D
[12:22] <arunkale> Jucato: I've made sites like www.niralimagazine.com and www.split-magazine.com using WordPress.. it can do a lot more than just a blog
[12:22] <Admiral_Chicago> bed now
[12:22] <arunkale> I think for what I'm looking for I'll need a custom-made thing
[12:22] <Admiral_Chicago> ttul
[12:22] <Jucato> arunkale: probably. no plugins available for it?
[12:23] <raven79> arunkale: anyway opensourcecms has different sections...you can try to see if you are able to find something good for you...
[12:23] <arunkale> Jucato: There are plugins, but I'm not finding suitable ones to my cause.. yeah, I'm going through opensourcecms.. :) thanks
[12:25] <arunkale> what's up flaccid
[12:26] <raven79> guys i'm a beginner of debian-like systems. the question is: how can i see the package name of a program that i want to install?
[12:26] <lupine_85> apt-cache search ?
[12:26] <raven79> (for example...i want to install emacs...how can i know its name
[12:26] <tmdx120> howdy all. Ever since I "upgraded" to Dapper, I cannot read my usb drives. Any advice for a newbie?
[12:26] <raven79> ah thanks lupine....
[12:26] <raven79> i only read apt-get man pages ;)
[12:27] <zorglu_> adept can make it more interactive too
[12:27] <Jucato> raven79: you can also use the search/filter in Adept, or the "apt:/" kio slave in Konqueror
[12:27] <flaccid> arunkale:
[12:28] <raven79> oh wanderfull...there is a protocol integrated into konqueror for apt-get....konqueror own a protocol for each things :D
[12:29] <linux__alien> how do i remove kubuntu-desktop and allied applications totally from ubuntu
[12:29] <linux__alien> ?
[12:29] <linux__alien> i gave apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:30] <linux__alien> now i want to remove the KDE themes and allied applications
[12:30] <zorglu_> this is a good question, is there a good tool to remove package ?
[12:30] <raven79> noooooooooooo orrible discover....emacs is not between editors....
[12:30] <raven79> :(
[12:30] <Jucato> raven79: apt:/ is actually just for apt-cache  and browsing packages.ubuntu.com
[12:30] <raven79> Jucato: thanks ;)
[12:31] <raven79> sorry but how can i install a package (that is present into packages.ubuntu.com) but that my system does not know?
[12:31] <flaccid> arunkale: plesk crap
[12:32] <raven79> must i modify my /etc/apt/source.list?
[12:32] <arunkale> flaccid: ah, i've never used plesk
[12:32] <Jucato> !repositories
[12:32] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:32] <gnomefreak> once i select theme for KBFX and hit apply do i have to restart kicker and how do you restart kicker?
[12:32] <Jucato> raven79: ^^^^
[12:32] <zorglu_> apt:/ is nice, i wasnt aware of this :)
[12:32] <raven79> thanks guys
[12:32] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I don't know about KBFX, but to restart kicker, "dcop kicker kicker restart" would do
[12:32] <gnomefreak> thank you ill try it
[12:32] <raven79> zorglu_: i'm chroot from another distro... i cannot use konqueror now...
[12:34] <raven79> what do you think about aptitude?
[12:34] <raven79> isn't it good too?
[12:34] <miro> #neno
[12:34] <Jucato> raven79: definitely
[12:34] <zorglu_> a lot of people like it
[12:34] <raven79> Jucato: :D ....
[12:34] <gnomefreak> imbrandon: ping
[12:35] <gnomefreak> oh wait i think i screwed up
[12:35] <Jucato> un-ping :P
[12:36] <raven79> :D nooo i hate windows-like help to add repositories :D :D :D
[12:36] <Jucato> raven79: ?
[12:37] <raven79> this is with a lot of images of windows... :D https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu i'm only joking ;) i'm reading that guide!
[12:38] <Jucato> lol
[12:38] <raven79> thanks ubotu
[12:38] <Jucato> (ubotu's a bot...)
[12:39] <tmdx120> who
[12:39] <tmdx120> WHO
[12:39] <raven79> :D a very intelligent bot...it can answer rightly to other user ;)
[12:39] <Jucato> heh
[12:40] <lupine_85> hi
[12:40] <raven79> but where i can locate "all" repositories...to add at /etc/apt/source.list?
[12:40] <raven79> (i cannot use some kde-like feature at present...i'm in a console)
[12:40] <zorglu_> !sourceomatic
[12:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:41] <Jucato> raven79: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:41] <zorglu_> there are no good/standard way but sourceomatic give you an idea
[12:41] <lupine_85> question about a KDE widget - it's the one that lists things (e.g. the nickname list in Konq., most of the lists in KMyMoney)... I've switched to a dark theme with light text, but this silly list with it's two-toned colours looks out of place and is swallowing my text
[12:41] <raven79> oh thanks
[12:42] <arunkale> how do i install jre
[12:42] <lupine_85> example: http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/snapshot5.png
[12:42] <lupine_85> any way to fix
[12:42] <Jucato> lupine_85: in System Settings > Appearance > Colors, change the Alternate Background in Lists to match your Standard Background
[12:42] <Admiral_Chicago> arunkale, java?
[12:43] <Jucato> raven79: this might also help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[12:43] <Jucato> arunkale: same way you install java
[12:43] <Jucato> !java
[12:43] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:43] <raven79> wanderfull ;)
[12:43] <arunkale> yeah java runtime environment
[12:43] <lupine_85> aha! thanks )
[12:43] <Admiral_Chicago> follow those links
[12:45] <raven79> could this be a "good" list for you? http://monoport.com/1481 i generated it with source-o-matic
[12:46] <Jucato> looks ok. it has the basic official repos. although you don't have any deb-src repos
[12:46] <raven79> i avoided unofficial...i don't know why :D
[12:46] <Guest659> hi
[12:46] <Guest659> guten morgen
[12:47] <gnomefreak> raven79: src repos are always handy to have incase you need to build a package
[12:47] <juri> osx86 is the best
[12:47] <Jucato> raven79: you "might" also want to have dapper-backports (if you want)
[12:47] <raven79> sorry phone...
[12:48] <juri> kubuntu is ok if you wont instal mac os in pc
[12:49] <zorglu_> juri: this is offtopic, please take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:49] <juri> hi zorglu
[12:50] <juri> offtopic?
[12:51] <zorglu_> juri: #kubuntu is to help people using kubuntu, other topics are offtopic.
[12:52] <zorglu_> it helps keep the focus to stay on topic :)
[12:56] <Admiral_Chicago> plus users like myself who are in like 12 channels don't have to click over so much
[12:56] <Jucato> why use click when you can Alt+# :P (j/k)
[12:58] <raven79> i'm here again
[12:58] <raven79> Jucato: why dapper-backporta are usefull?
[12:59] <Jucato> raven79: because from time to time, it has updates to programs that are not included in dapper-security (they're not security patches) or dapper-updates
[12:59] <snapy> how do i change the resolution of a text terminal without restarting computer?
[12:59] <raven79> and gnomefreak src repos are needed to install packages from source? ...using one of them i will not install source code too?
[12:59] <snapy> how can i change text console resolution *without* rebooting (that is, not from grub/lilo, but while i am in the console)?
[01:00] <raven79> ok Jucato thanks
[01:00] <Jucato> raven79:  when you want to download the source code for a package that is in the repositories, you need to have the appropriate deb-src repository
[01:00] <gnomefreak> raven79: you use them to build using apt :) sudo apt-get source -b <package>   should download source and compile/build it
[01:00] <gnomefreak> raven79: thats how ubuntu makes the source code aval.
[01:01] <zorglu_> snapy: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/savetextmode.1.html <- i dunno if it still do the job, but it was doing it in the paste. you may poke around this
[01:01] <raven79> gnomefreak: you are right...i see now that option...
[01:01] <gnomefreak> what file type are songs on cds?
[01:01] <snapy> zorglu_: than kyou
[01:01] <gnomefreak> and can i save them as mp3's or a way to convert them to mp3?
[01:02] <raven79> so now i will add some src repos too ;)
[01:02] <Jucato> gnomefreak: they're in Audio CD format? :P
[01:02] <zorglu_> gnomefreak: i think they are raw data
[01:03] <Jucato> gnomefreak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping might help. (don't forget to install lame)
[01:03] <raven79> guys...is this http://monoport.com/1482 better?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> it would be nice if i caould get into the file instead of opening it in music player
[01:04] <raven79> ah another question...how can i locally see all packages available? and some details on those packages...
[01:04] <Jucato> raven79: looks good enough
[01:04] <raven79> thanks Jucato
[01:05] <Jucato> raven79: once you have enabled the proper repositories, apt-cache show <package> will give you details
[01:05] <Jucato> or aptitude show if you want
[01:05] <gnomefreak> raven79: you can use apt-cache search something  or adept sill give you a full list
[01:05] <gnomefreak> apt-cache show will give you details
[01:05] <raven79> Jucato: i already tried with that command...but i get some problem...but probably my repos list was not correct....now i will try again.
[01:06] <raven79> ok gnomefreak thanks ;)
[01:06] <Jucato> raven79: have you updated after you changed your sources.list?
[01:06] <Jucato> sudo apt-get update or sudo aptitude update
[01:06] <gnomefreak> can you convert .oog into .mp3?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> they are saving as .oog
[01:06] <gnomefreak> ogg
[01:06] <raven79> a lot of new command to learn...i hope to learn quickly so i will not ask you so stupid things ;) ...thanks guys
[01:07] <Jucato> gnomefreak: what is saving as .ogg?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> raven79: only stupid question is one not asked
[01:07] <gnomefreak> my cd :)
[01:07] <raven79> Jucato: no. i has not done the list update...now i will do it.
[01:07] <Jucato> gnomefreak: did you install LAME?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> using sound juicer to extract the songs to file
[01:07] <raven79> gnomefreak: thanks for your support...
[01:08] <gnomefreak> raven79: anytime
[01:08] <gnomefreak> Jucato: not ever sure anymore
[01:08] <gnomefreak> whats full name?
[01:08] <Jucato> gnomefreak: without LAME, soundjuicer can't encode to MP3's
[01:08] <Jucato> gnomefreak: "lame" :P
[01:08] <YazzY> howdy
[01:09] <raven79> this is an atipical channel :D usually people tells RTFM all others.. :D this is a good new "kind" of channel!
[01:09] <YazzY> i am trying to install compiz/Xgl for Matrox MGA G550 AGP on kubuntu. So far i get DM
[01:09] <YazzY> i got DRM working
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Jucato: its installing
[01:09] <Jucato> :P
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Jucato: how to use?
[01:09] <YazzY> http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?id=205 says to install cgwd and cgwd-themes
[01:09] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:09] <YazzY> but there are not packages named vgwd
[01:09] <Jucato> raven79: we don't say RTFM... we just say RTFL (Read the Fscking Link)
[01:09] <YazzY> cgwd even
[01:10] <YazzY> any idea ?
[01:10] <Jucato> gnomefreak: you don't use it. the encoding/ripping program is the one that uses it
[01:10] <gnomefreak> beryl uses emerald not cgwd
[01:10] <YazzY> k
[01:10] <raven79> Fscking?
[01:10] <gnomefreak> Jucato: it will automaticcly save as mp3 or i choose it
[01:10] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I think you have to choose it from sound juicer. (not familiar with it)
[01:11] <gnomefreak> raven79: another not so good way of saying f***ing
[01:11] <YazzY> gnomefreak: apt-cache search emerald does not giver any result
[01:11] <Jucato> gnomefreak: are you on KDE?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> Jucato: atm no
[01:11] <gnomefreak> i have all kde apps :)
[01:11] <raven79> gnomefreak: ah ok... :(
[01:11] <Jucato> gnomefreak: Konqueror even?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:11] <gnomefreak> ofcourse
[01:11] <Jucato> gnomefreak: check out the link I gave a while ago, for CD Ripping
[01:11] <gnomefreak> i have kubuntu installed just not on it atm
[01:12] <gnomefreak> Jucato: ty
[01:12] <gnomefreak> missed that
[01:12] <snapy> !it
[01:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:12] <Jucato> raven79: actually fsck is a program/utility similar to MS-DOS's chkdsk. but since it looks so similar to f**k... it's generally been used as a substitute by Linux users :P
[01:13] <raven79> ubotu: thanks for tip...but i'm tring to learn some word of english ;)
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks for tip...but i'm tring to learn some word of english ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <raven79> Jucato: i never hear it...probably because i usually speak in italian...
[01:14] <Jucato> raven79: heh that's the response for other channels in other languages
[01:14] <raven79> Jucato: but happy to know it... :D
[01:14] <Jucato> raven79: which haven't you heard?
[01:15] <raven79> Jucato: i never see/used/heard fsck...instead of f**k ;)
[01:15] <Jucato> raven79: well, if you're not familiar with the Linux scene, it's normal not to have heard of it
[01:16] <raven79> Jucato: no. i'm a linux user since 4 years...but probably i never heard it because i usually go into italian forums...
[01:16] <raven79> Jucato: and so on...
[01:16] <Jucato> aaah
[01:20] <raven79> this is the first time that i try a debian-like system...it is pretty good...
[01:22] <raven79> i never used it before because a university teacher of mine use debian...so i was never able to think to use it :D
[01:22] <Jucato> heh
[01:28] <grothesk> How do I activate previews for video files in konqueror?
[01:29] <raven79> you should compile( install) packages with arts use flag enabled....at least with gentoo box ;)
[01:30] <SillyZ> gmornin
[01:30] <raven79> SillyZ: hi
[01:30] <SillyZ> how goes raven79?
[01:30] <raven79> fine thanks and you?
[01:31] <SillyZ> mm just wakin up here, coffee coffee coffee :D
[01:31] <raven79> :D
[01:31] <raven79> what's time is it there SillyZ?
[01:34] <SillyZ> 0633 HRS Gmt-0600 (dst)
[01:34] <raven79> wow...
[01:35] <SillyZ> what time is it there raven79?
[01:36] <raven79> here: 13:35 it's time to lunch
[01:36] <SillyZ> ahh
[01:36] <raven79> 1:35 p.m.
[01:37] <SillyZ> yup, usa midwest just wakin up here hehe
[01:37] <raven79> yes...where you are exactly?
[01:37] <SillyZ> nebraska.... middle of nowhere
[01:37] <SillyZ> you?
[01:37] <raven79> you get up early today...
[01:37] <raven79> italy
[01:38] <SillyZ> well tis monday here, got to get little ones up here in an hour and start getting them ready for school, then its a fun filled day of barbie-dvd reruns with my 3 yr old daughter
[01:39] <SillyZ> <<-- full time stay at home mom
[01:39] <raven79> oh...i undestand...so you will bring your doughter and escort her to school...
[01:40] <raven79> let make her learn....so she will not speak bad like me! :D
[01:40] <SillyZ> will take 8yr old son to school, take 3rd old daughter with for the ride, then her and I come back here for the day
[01:41] <SillyZ> oh yes, were doing the whole foreign language thing dvd's with her at a very young age , seems to be picking it up alot faster than I am
[01:41] <raven79> :D
[01:41] <SillyZ> !seen hawkind
[01:41] <ubotu> I haven't seen hawkind recently
[01:41] <SillyZ> hmm
[01:41] <gnomefreak> !seen Hawkwind
[01:41] <ubotu> Hawkwind is on IRC right now!
[01:42] <main2> is blender not available in the repost?
[01:42] <main2> :|
[01:42] <SillyZ> sorry not enuf coffee yet for spellchunking :)
[01:42] <SillyZ> thanks gnomefreak
[01:42] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:42] <gnomefreak> main2: it should be
[01:42] <gnomefreak> !info blender
[01:42] <raven79> gnomefreak: yw?
[01:42] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.41-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4734 kB, installed size 12588 kB
[01:42] <gnomefreak> yw = your welcome
[01:42] <SillyZ> yw = your welcome
[01:43] <raven79> ;)
[01:43] <gnomefreak> main2: its in the main repo
[01:43] <main2> when i type blender in adept, nothing comes up
[01:43] <SillyZ> Ive used other products, and find just the learning curve of blender is so steep its almost unusable
[01:43] <gnomefreak> main2: make sure you are not using the cdrom repos
[01:44] <main2> i dont have any cdrom repos
[01:44] <gnomefreak> main2: on dapper?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> main2: in terminal type apt-get search blender | less
[01:44] <gnomefreak> scroll down until you find it
[01:45] <main2> apt-get search blender
[01:45] <main2> E: invalid operation
[01:46] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:46] <crimsun> apt-cache
[01:46] <raven79> sorry guys, is this normal? http://monoport.com/1483 i already has installed kde...but not all programs...so i typed that command with that result...
[01:46] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search blender
[01:48] <main2> hmmmm blender looks 50% transparent (im running xgl)
[01:49] <raven79> i got lunch...sorry i must go...thanks for your help and bye
[01:50] <gnomefreak> raven79: lose the away message please
[01:56] <sorush20> hi ..my dmix is not working properly I have a usb headphone , as hw:2,0 but I can't mix sound from two apps into that device? how do I change this please
[01:56] <sorush20> !dmix
[01:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:07] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Did you need me for something ?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> no someone else did !seen but typoed your name
[02:08] <Jucato> heh
[02:08] <gnomefreak> SillZ neeed you i guess
[02:08] <gnomefreak> needed*
[02:08] <Jucato> SillyZ, probably :)
[02:09] <gnomefreak> her too :)
[02:09] <Jucato> hm... strange... Lipstik doesn't seem to follow the color for menu text... :(
[02:09] <Hawkwind> Ah missed that, thanks
[02:11] <Jucato> ah, an new favorite widget style... :P
[02:12] <BluesKaj> flashplayer doesn't work on some sites http://www.compfused.com/directlink/3931/ .The sound works fine , but no video..any suggestions ?
[02:13] <Hawkwind> Probably because the site needs flash 8 or better
[02:13] <Jucato> hm... it doesn't seem to be Flash at all
[02:13] <BluesKaj> we can't run the newer versions , Hawkwind ?
[02:14] <raven79> i'm back
[02:15] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Flash 7 is the latest for Linux.  We won't get flash 9 until after the first of the year
[02:15] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: But that site seems to need wmp11 actually
[02:15] <gnomefreak> i think it is flash and flash 7 plays the front page fine
[02:15] <Jucato> hm... strange. it wants to play on KMPlayer on mine
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Hawkwind, it points out right in the blurb that it uses Flash
[02:15] <gnomefreak> content="funny, video, videos, flash, animation, game, links, picture, silly, weird, odd, shocking" /><meta name="description" content="Your entertainment
[02:16] <BluesKaj> is there default setting in firefox for video animatins
[02:16] <BluesKaj> ?
[02:17] <KoluCCi> Hi all! Does N E body knows how to select D-SUB in xorg.conf for dual-head Radeon 8500 LE?
[02:17] <KoluCCi> I'm searching google and how-to's but nothing found...
[02:21] <BluesKaj> what's the path to the kmenu ?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> when i want to open with kmenu program i need to know the path to it cuz for some reason when the dialog box "open with ..." pops up the kmenu is never listed ?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> Are we supposed to be mind readers ! ?
[02:27] <Mortice> BluesKaj: what kmenu program?
[02:29] <raven79> hey guys someone can help me to rip a dvd...i never rip one of them...
[02:30] <BluesKaj> Kaffiene for one
[02:30] <raven79> kaffeine can rip a dvd?
[02:31] <Mortice> BluesKaj: oh, so you want to open a file with a program that you can find in the KDE menu?
[02:32] <BluesKaj> Mortice, on this site http://www.compfused.com/directlink/3931/
[02:32] <neil> ouch
[02:32] <neil> hi
[02:32] <BluesKaj> or even wmp
[02:32] <Mortice> BluesKaj: ok, so you've downloaded the video file?
[02:33] <neil> i didnt read the faqs but i can no longer be root! seems the wheel group is no more there too... any idea ?
[02:33] <BluesKaj> no , want it to open in Fiefox
[02:33] <Mortice> BluesKaj: ok, install mozilla-mplayer then
[02:33] <raven79> BluesKaj: i don't need to play a dvd...i need to rip it...like with dvdrip but that program is too huge :D ...for a simple man :D
[02:34] <raven79> someone knows if k3b is able to rip a dvd?
[02:34] <BluesKaj> no raven unless you have the proper decoders
[02:35] <BluesKaj> ok mortice ,thx I'll give mozilla mplayer a try
[02:35] <raven79> oh decorders are like....video codec
[02:35] <raven79> ?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> raven79, i recommend "devede23", but it's non free
[02:36] <raven79> thanks
[02:38] <raven79> devede23? neither google is able to find it....
[02:38] <raven79> can you give me a link, please?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> raven79, http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[02:47] <raven79> thanks
[02:48] <zorglu_> q. how do i delete files with konqueror ? here i mean delete, not 'send to grabage bin'
[02:49] <grothesk> How do I activate previews for video files in konqueror?
[02:49] <zorglu_> grothesk: i got this one by default here ... kubuntu 6.06.1
[02:49] <grothesk> zorglu_: kubuntu 6.06.1 kde 3.5.4
[02:50] <grothesk> I'm missing a certain package but I don't know which one... :-(
[02:50] <zorglu_> 3.5.3 here :)
[02:53] <grothesk> narf...
[03:03] <BluesKaj> ok, how does one uninstall an older version of  program like "devede "
[03:03] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:03] <zorglu_> try "sudo apt-get remove devede"
[03:03] <Jucato> BluesKaj: Adept? apt-get? Synaptic?
[03:04] <zorglu_> or that too :)
[03:04] <BluesKaj> hmm
[03:05] <zorglu_> Jucato: about that, do you know a apps which make the removal of apps easier ? like if a package install 10 dependancy, i uninstall the main package, but would like to remove the dependancies as well, is there a tool to make this easier ?
[03:05] <sorush20> guys should I file a but I can't get amarok-xine to wrokg with dmix on my usb headset..
[03:05] <Jucato> zorglu_: aptitude :)
[03:06] <eizesus> whoo
[03:06] <zorglu_> Jucato: oh maybe i should try it then :)
[03:06] <sorush20> here is my conversation ins alsa, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24764
[03:06] <Jucato> downside, I think you have to perform "aptitude update" before trying to install something. not really sure about that
[03:07] <gupta> is it possible to save "marks"  in man pages?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> Jucato, devede isn't listed in adept
[03:08] <Jucato> BluesKaj: how did you install it, then?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> does this look right to make a tar. tar -cvvf <tar i want> <file to put into tar>
[03:09] <BluesKaj> DL the tar file and extracted it in my home folder
[03:09] <BluesKaj> has a self installer
[03:10] <Jucato> BluesKaj: hm... does it come with an instruction on how to remove it? because if not, I'm not sure how it can be uninstalled
[03:11] <sorush20> guys how do I do this 08:37 < crimsun> you're essentially stuck with custom-crafting an ~/.asoundrc that hardcodes the device number in a dmix stanza
[03:11] <crimsun> (I've already answered that.)
[03:11] <Jucato> :P
[03:12] <gnomefreak> sorush20: im guessing he means edit that file to what you want it to do (not as easy as you might think)
[03:12] <Jucato> sound expert is in da house!! :)
[03:12] <Jucato> (not me, crimsun :P)
[03:12] <crimsun> it's not very difficult, perhaps a bit inconvenient
[03:12] <Jucato> heh :P
[03:13] <zorglu_> gnomefreak: yes it is right. except the 2 -v
[03:13] <gnomefreak> ah maybe combine all the loose files into one than tar it
[03:13] <gnomefreak> zorglu_: only 1?
[03:14] <zorglu_> gnomefreak: well -v is to display stuff as verbose while excuting the tar. up to you to see how much you need
[03:14] <gnomefreak> -v = verbose i couldnt figure out why man page used 2
[03:14] <zorglu_> maybe they pile up, some apps do that
[03:14] <gnomefreak> should i combine all files into one folder first than tar that folder?
[03:14] <zorglu_> -v a bit verbose, -vv a bit more, -vvv even more etc....
[03:14] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I think it's a typo?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> ah
[03:14] <Jucato> aah
[03:15] <Jucato> -vvvvv <--- how verbose is this?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> way too much
[03:15] <zorglu_> massivly verbose++ :)
[03:15] <Jucato> lol
[03:15] <gnomefreak> prolly shows you the gender of the files :)
[03:15] <Jucato> ooh...
[03:16] <Jucato> gnomefreak: have you been able to encode/rip to MP3's already?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> yep been working on it ;)
[03:16] <Jucato> glad to hear that
[03:24] <gnomefreak> ok lets find out how well this works
[03:25] <gnomefreak> oh tar name do i have to append .tar or does it do that for me?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:26] <Jucato> since when did filename extensions matter in CLI? :p
[03:26] <gnomefreak> i dont know lol
[03:26] <gnomefreak> rather not have the tar called name.tar.tar
[03:27] <BluesKaj> tartar sauce
[03:27] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:28] <Jucato> gnomefreak: you're not on Kubuntu right now, right?
[03:28] <zorglu_> gnomefreak: tar cvzf bla.tgz bli_your_dir
[03:28] <zorglu_> you surely be much too afraid about tar :)
[03:28] <zorglu_> !tar
[03:28] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:28] <Jucato> oooh there...
[03:28] <lupine_85> bz2 ++
[03:29] <Jucato> let's see what ubotu coughed up...
[03:29] <zorglu_> there is even a gui to it :)
[03:29] <Jucato> ah yes.. but Ubuntu only :P
[03:29] <zorglu_> :)
[03:29] <zorglu_> we should rename ubuntu into gubuntu btw
[03:30] <Jucato> and it doesn't have the answer to gnomefreak's question
[03:30] <Jucato> zorq
[03:30] <gnomefreak> and im assuming use the path
[03:30] <Jucato> zorglu_: definitely noth!
[03:30] <Jucato> not*
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Jucato: no it doesnt
[03:30] <zorglu_> Jucato: why not ? people think gnome is part of ubuntu and that kubuntu is some kind of variant
[03:31] <Jucato> zorglu_: and they are correct
[03:31] <gnomefreak> kubuntu == ubuntu
[03:31] <zorglu_> gnomefreak: this is my point, both are different
[03:31] <zorglu_> kubuntu = ubuntu + kde
[03:31] <Jucato> kubuntu is actualy just ubuntu using KDE.
[03:31] <zorglu_> ubuntu = ubuntu + gnome
[03:31] <gnomefreak> only the DE
[03:31] <BluesKaj> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde instead od gnome
[03:31] <zorglu_> see the bug ? :)
[03:31] <Jucato> no bug. it's still ubuntu
[03:32] <Jucato> besides, it makes Ubuntu unique
[03:32] <gnomefreak> ubuntu is behind the DE
[03:32] <zorglu_> well there is bug in the naming
[03:32] <tur804> selam
[03:32] <rebecca> hi
[03:32] <Jucato> zorglu_: is it an established fact/system that naming distros have to follow that?
[03:32] <Jucato> anyway... getting -offtopic here...
[03:32] <gnomefreak> fudge
[03:33] <CVirus> well ... fudg'em
[03:33] <BluesKaj> hmm, can't find mplayer for firefox ...mozilla-mplayer doesn't seem available either
[03:33] <Jucato> !mplayer
[03:33] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:33] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:33] <zorglu_> yep, and the renaming wont happen, simply because of the brand mindshare that we dont want to loose :)
[03:33] <Junis> BluesKaj: use te correct sources
[03:34] <zorglu_> ok going to work a bit, see yq
[03:34] <gnomefreak> oh wth there has to be away around these damn error
[03:34] <gnomefreak> s
[03:34] <BluesKaj> already have mplayer ...just not the firefox link program
[03:34] <Rambo3> why is mouse even displaced buy 1 inch to the right. clicking on icon opens icon next to it
[03:34] <Aswe> whats the meaning of "Alternate install CD"?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> Aswe: its a text-based installer
[03:35] <gnomefreak> it also allows you to do OEM and Server install if you like
[03:36] <Aswe> gnomefreak can i install kubuntu without cdrom (never used linux before)
[03:36] <Aswe> ?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> !install
[03:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:36] <gnomefreak> Aswe: read that but its easiest from cd
[03:37] <Aswe> ok thnx
[03:37] <ninHer_> hi all
[03:37] <ubuntu> hello
[03:37] <gnomefreak> hi
[03:38] <ubuntu> j ai quelques pti bleme avec mon clavier
[03:38] <ninHer_> hi ubuntu
[03:38] <ninHer_> hi gnomefreak
[03:38] <Rambo3> oui oui
[03:38] <ubuntu> je suis sr le live cd la
[03:39] <ubuntu> mais quand je suis sur mon mode utilisateur mon clavier reponds pas
[03:39] <WeeD> Hello, and good morning everyone!
[03:40] <ubuntu> #unbuntu-fr
[03:40] <Dink> !fr
[03:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:41] <WeeD> Quick question. Why is it that Kubuntu was not shipped with the essential things such as make, patch, g++, gtk, atk, and etc?
[03:41] <WeeD> Well, I know they arent essential but whatever. Why werent they shipped with the latest relewase?
[03:41] <WeeD> Thanks in advance
[03:42] <Rambo3> gtk?
[03:42] <Jucato> WeeD: Kubuntu is not shipped with gtk because it does not use GTK+ apps
[03:42] <Jucato> WeeD: it is not shipped with "build-essential" packages (gcc and co.) for some reasons. they're still debating on that one...
[03:42] <Rambo3> g++ is not essential too
[03:43] <Rambo3> make is and i am not kubuntu dev so i dont know
[03:43] <Rambo3> maby all this eyecandy cra* takes to much place
[03:44] <WeeD> Ah, I see
[03:44] <Aswe> gnomefreak, i dont have cdrom and floppy and network.. can i install it without them? i cant find something about that in the "help page"
[03:44] <piltdown> ANyonr help with a sudo problem?
[03:45] <WeeD> So, yeah I ask because I've been through hell trying to work Kubuntu, Im a newcomer and still having issues installing the NVIDIA drivers and also ndiswrapper
[03:45] <gnomefreak> Aswe: that site is all i know i think you can install from usb but you would need network (you can order cds for free but you would need cdrom
[03:46] <Aswe> \=
[03:46] <WeeD> See, internet on the Kubuntu system is impossible because its only connection to the outside world was with Windows via USB network card
[03:47] <gnomefreak> Aswe: your on the internet now
[03:47] <gnomefreak> Aswe: download it save it to usb than hook up to other pc :)
[03:48] <Rambo3> WeeD download ubuntu iso to windows mount it and install from there
[03:49] <gnomefreak> its still 300mb :(
[03:50] <WeeD> Rambo3: I already have Kubuntu installed, using GRUB to dual-boot, no internet cause Linsys has no drivers for the USB network card, Is there any workaround for USB network cards in Kubuntu?
[03:50] <BadRabbit320> Does Kubuntu desktop version (from iso) **only** run **live** or will i get an option to do an install if I want?
[03:50] <Rambo3> I thought Linksys was supoported
[03:51] <WeeD> Not mine for some reason, it wont use it to connect to th einternet
[03:51] <Jucato> BadRabbit320: the Desktop CD has an install option
[03:52] <Jucato> Desktop CD = Live CD + GUI Installer
[03:52] <WeeD> Rambo3: What do I do to make it use the network card? Whap app controls the network controllers
[03:52] <Rambo3> WeeD: what are you using WEP WAP open
[03:52] <SuperSub> alexicon super here
[03:52] <piltdown> Help please: sudo problem:- Su returned with an error
[03:52] <WeeD> Rambo3: open
[03:53] <alexander_> hello there
[03:53] <gnomefreak> piltdown: su is not sudo
[03:53] <SuperSub> ALEXICON
[03:53] <Rambo3> WeeD: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264006
[03:53] <Acc|ccA> i would call myself, like we say in germany: bloody starter
[03:54] <Acc|ccA> beginner
[03:54] <WeeD> Rambo3: Okay, brb
[03:54] <Acc|ccA> and i've got some beginnerproblem
[03:54] <Acc|ccA> :)
[03:54] <piltdown> Su returned with an error is waht I get when I enter my password in System Settings and enter my password to change users etc.
[03:54] <BadRabbit320> ok, thanx.  been lurking/going to links you've put in channel, but some links say I need the **alternate** to do an install.
[03:54] <sudharsh> hi everyone, oo in kubuntu dapper doesnt spell check, whats the name of the package that provides this feature
[03:55] <Acc|ccA> i can't change the displayresolution
[03:55] <Acc|ccA> 640x480 is all i can chose
[03:55] <BadRabbit320> btw, I'm learning about U 7 K quicker than I learned Win
[03:55] <Jucato> BadRabbit320: not really. the Alternate Install CD just has more options
[03:55] <WeeD> Rambo3: Thanks for the link, I believe it will help. Now what do I tyoe in konsole to bring up wifi management?
[03:55] <Acc|ccA> it has worked before...
[03:56] <Acc|ccA> now it's over
[03:56] <Acc|ccA> what can i do?
[03:56] <Jucato> BadRabbit320: Here's a page that lists some of what the Alternate Install CD has, that the Desktop CD doesn't: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06.1/
[03:56] <BadRabbit320> !su
[03:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:57] <BadRabbit320> Jucato  thgnx!
[03:57] <SuperSub> anyone here no how to troubleshoot azureus problems Warning Azureus did not shutdown tiddily
[03:57] <piltdown> Also If I try and run adept and enter my password I get Conversation with su failed.
[03:57] <BadRabbit320> famn dingers...there's no g in thnx...
[03:58] <WeeD> Does anyone know why ntfs is so retarded? Why doesnt Linux use compression on its filesystem?
[03:58] <BluesKaj> no need , not as bloated and no registry for starters :)
[03:59] <Jucato> WeeD: because Linux uses a different type of filesystem that doesn't need that (journaling)
[03:59] <WeeD> Okay, well, I would like to know if theres anything similar out ther like ntfs in Linux that would compress the entire HDD
[04:00] <SuperSub> anyone here no how to troubleshoot azureus problems Warning Azureus did not shutdown tiddily
[04:00] <WeeD> And allow for continual/regular usage. Low diskspace on my system
[04:00] <Jucato> WeeD: ext3? (default Linux filesystem)
[04:01] <WeeD> SuperSub: I have Azereus also, if you have untidy shutdowns, it means you have corrupted torrent files
[04:02] <SuperSub> should i delete them?
[04:02] <WeeD> Jucato: I know ext is default, but it doesnt allow reading of a comressed HDD. Is an ext3 partition already comressed in its own format, similar to ntfs?
[04:03] <SuperSub> nothing in my torrent folder
[04:03] <WeeD> SuperSub: Remove them to another folder and redownload the torrents
[04:03] <WeeD> SuperSub: Well
[04:03] <Jucato> hm.. probably not WeeD. I'm not really familiar with the filesystems. but afaik, ext3 doesn't need compression because it handles files well enough. not really sure, though
[04:03] <WeeD> SuperSub: Have you even started downloading torrents yet
[04:03] <SuperSub> yes
[04:03] <WeeD> Jucato: Thaks Jucato
[04:04] <WeeD> SuperSub: Yeah, delete the torrents and see what happens
[04:04] <SuperSub> i cleared the log files and deleted the torrent file but to no avail even uninstalled azureus and re-installed
[04:04] <WeeD> SuperSub: Or remove them
[04:04] <WeeD> SuperSub: See, I had the same problem