[00:00] <p1und3r> is it possible to permenantly attach an custom icon to an internet shortcut even when sharing?
[00:00] <m_tadeu> back again
[00:00] <Xarver> Hello, if I use wubi and install ubuntu, will it remove the opensuse installation on my computer? (want to get rid of opensuse)
[00:00] <Maizcul> When I installed ubuntu I was pleasantly surprised that everything actually worked, even my wireless card which is from a company i'd never heard of before I got the card.
[00:00] <damagu> ActionParsnip isn't that thread talkingabout xorg.conf... where did you get the bit about /etc/modprobe.d/olpc.conf.dist?
[00:00] <m_tadeu> so I don't seem to find a corel draw for linux....and still don't know the file extention
[00:00] <kitche> Xarver: no since wubi installs a image inside of Windows to boot from
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> damagu: one of the links I gave
[00:01] <|GaiJin|> in windows mediacentre, i was able to view certain internet tv's and such... is linux media centre able to do the same... anyone tried it?? or is there a program i should rather be concentrating on??
[00:01] <Xarver> Dangit.
[00:01] <georgy_28> user : you sure that you have no output about wifi if you do lspci in a terminal ?
[00:01] <oskar-> m_tadeu:  .cdr?
[00:01] <p1und3r> is it possible to permenantly attach an custom icon to an internet shortcut even when sharing? <------anyone?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> |GaiJin|: xbmc is good at that sort of thing
[00:01] <DavidCanarias> oskar-: it didnt work!!!!
[00:01] <kopy07> When I used mplayer to see the video output from a webcam and it gave am an error " Current format: unknown (0x31363553) "  any ideas
[00:01] <ward_> |GaiJin| MythTV!
[00:01] <|GaiJin|> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:01] <Maizcul> Apparently the best server for me in the UK to use is one in Germany...
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> |GaiJin|: you need to add some repos
[00:02] <m_tadeu> oskar-: there is a cdr, cdx, cdt....quite confused
[00:02] <Lusule> hi there :) anyone know what grub error 17 is and how to fix it?  i'm trying to create a xubuntu liveusb pen but when i try to boot it, that's the error i get :(
[00:02] <DavidCanarias> oskar-: it didn work
[00:02] <h00k> My CDROM isn't ejecting my CD, 'eject' reports /dev/scd0 isn't a block device, and it used to work but doesn't now.  any ideas? (Ibex i386, 2.6.27-9-generic) fstab: http://pastebin.com/d2eae43a5
[00:02] <Xarver> Any way to overwrite opensuse and install ubuntu without a cd?
[00:02] <nova_> anyone know how to get a logitech mx 620 working in ibex 64bit?  it works on bootup but after 10 min it just stops responding
[00:02] <|GaiJin|> ward_: looked on myth tv... isnt that only with a reciver installed?? or can i see internet tv also
[00:02] <ward_> xmbc runs like crap on older hardware (at least the older hardware i tried it on)
[00:02] <kristian_> Can anyone tell me how to enforce the use of a particular graphics driver in Intrepid? Auto-detection doesn't work, and xorg.conf is seemingly obsolete now...
[00:02] <damagu> ActionParsnip: You only posted one link didn't you? And that went to a thread talkingabout xorg.conf. Either way do I need to restart my machine for it to work... and does this disable the tap to click or do I then need to use gsynaptics to disable it?
[00:02] <|GaiJin|> ActionParsnip: what repos??
[00:02] <oskar-> m_tadeu:  cdr was the extension of a normal corel draw file, at least from version 4 to 8
[00:02] <jrib> kristian_: xorg.conf, you're misinformed
[00:03] <kristian_> I am?
[00:03] <ward_> |GaiJin| you can also watch internettv with it yes
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> |GaiJin|: webseach xbmc, the site has a guidew
[00:03] <jrib> kristian_: xorg.conf just isn't the place to configure input devices anymore (by default)
[00:03] <|GaiJin|> thanks again
[00:03] <user__> georgy_28 if i click on system and hardware dirvers it tells me that support for atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards is enbled
[00:03] <|GaiJin|> both of you
[00:03] <ward_> |GaiJin| same with mythtv, they have pretty nice docs
[00:03] <kristian_> but no variant of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg renders any usable result?
[00:03] <ward_> no problem, good luck
[00:03] <gnutron> h00k: does the mounted cdrom appear on your desktop?
[00:04] <m_tadeu> oskar-: what about corel12?
[00:04] <h00k> gnutron, negative
[00:04] <Guest43923> I need help... right now I' looking at busybox, it says ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<seemingly random string> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[00:04] <oskar-> m_tadeu:  i have never used it
[00:04] <h00k> gnutron, /dev/scd0 also doesn't appear to exist
[00:04] <h00k> gnutron, it did previously
[00:04] <gnutron> h00k: but it does mount? ls -l /media/
[00:04] <Guest43923> how can I see what hda's I have
[00:04] <Guest43923> from busybox
[00:04] <oskar-> Guest43923:  cat /proc/partitions
[00:04] <Maizcul> Now to see if I can get my usb flash drive working, at the best of times it's trippy. I sort of sucked on it and it started to rust ...
[00:04] <m_tadeu> is there an app that understands .cdr files?
[00:04] <Flannel> Guest43923: blkid will tell you
[00:04] <georgy_28> user__,  : ok, but sometimes this driver don't work, so we need the output from the lspci command to know the wifi chip
[00:04] <histo> My friend just installed updates he had waiting on ibex. He said there were some errors.  He doesn't remember what the errors were. The system was acting "weird" so he restarted and now when he logs in he has no panels no Alt+F2 run dialog but shows his start up scripts and deesktop backgournd.  This behavior also happens if he trys gnome failsafe?
[00:05] <h00k> gnutron -> http://pastebin.com/daa40c69
[00:05] <oskar-> m_tadeu:  i don't know of any
[00:05] <jrib> histo: you're friend should join here directly so that the issue can be debugged
[00:05] <user__> georgy_28 but this command doesn't say there's even a wifi chip, but somehow it must have been detected, otherwise how come ubunto has activated the atheros driver?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> histo: if you create a new user and log in as that is it ok?
[00:06] <user__> georgy_28 so there's nothing i can do about it?
[00:06] <Izinucs> histo: no failsafe is a terminal prompt for fixing things.. irssi is a terminal irc client..
[00:06] <Guest43923> oskar-: it only shows 8     0  117220824 sda
[00:06] <histo> jrib, he's here but cooking right now. I'm waiting for him to forward ssh so I cna log in and look for erros.
[00:06] <georgy_28> user__,  : can you pastebin the output of lspci ?
[00:06] <gnutron> h00k: i hesitate to say intrepid broke 'something' try sudo umount /dev/cdrom0 in a terminal
[00:06] <histo> Izinucs, no gnome failsafe session is completely different then recover console.
[00:06] <Guest43923> oskar-: although I have 4 partitions...
[00:06] <Izinucs> histo: ah.. I was mixing them up.. sorry..
[00:06] <histo> ActionParsnip, haven't tried that yet but as i stated if he selects gnome failsafe from sessions it still has no panel.
[00:06] <Guest43923> Flannel: blkid? It says not found...
[00:07] <Maizcul> note to self: putting the pen drive in the right way round tends to help ...
[00:07] <histo> jrib, just trying to get some ideas.
[00:07] <h00k> gnutron, yeah, doesn't exist: umount: /dev/cdrom0: not found
[00:07] <sirjoebob> hey all. i just setup ubuntu server with vsftpd and need to know how to set a public folder for all users to share... any ideas?
[00:07] <h00k> gnutron, neither does /dev/cd* (cd anything)
[00:07] <Flannel> Guest43923: that's probably true due to busybox.
[00:07] <h00k> gnutron, that's why I'm quite puzzled.
[00:07] <gnutron> h00k: sudo umount /media/cdrom0   ..not sure but cant harm anything.
[00:07] <kitche> sirjoebob: vsftpd has a wonderful howto for that on their site
[00:08] <kristian_> How do I select which driver to use then? The card in question is a legacy matrox card, but I can only obtain a decent screen with the xforcevesa parameter - so obviously auto detection doesn't work properly
[00:08] <sirjoebob> kitche: awesome. thanks. i will had their right now and RTFM lol
[00:08] <Xarver> I want to install ubuntu on wubi and remove openSuse without a cd. is this possible?
[00:08] <__Zombie__> Anyone good with Suspend/Resume on laptops?
[00:08] <sirchar> hey guys i downlaoded open office formula, but where should i go to open it?
[00:08] <h00k> gnutron, it reports as not mounted
[00:08] <jrib> kristian_: you use xorg.conf just like before
[00:08] <Izinucs> suddenly .. flash audio stopped working.. it's been working fine for the last month.. any ideas on how to diagnose and fix?
[00:08] <user__> georgy_28 sure: http://pastebin.com/d558ec4c1
[00:08] <gnutron> h00k: push the cdrom eject button
[00:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[00:08] <jrib> Izinucs: what version of ubuntu?
[00:08] <wubrgamer> what's up?
[00:08] <h00k> gnutron, also umount /media/cdrom reports as not mounted.
[00:08] <oskar-> Guest43923:  if it can find the hard drive and make it to sda, i see no reason why the partition table should not be readable... :\
[00:08] <h00k> gnutron, tried that also...nothin'
[00:08] <Izinucs> jrib: 8.10
[00:08] <Maizcul> Hmm ... nope, still not working. Either ubuntu doesn't like my usb stick or the rust is even worse than before
[00:09] <__Zombie__> On 8.10?
[00:09] <Guest43923> oskar-: well, any other ideas :( ?
[00:09] <oskar-> Guest43923:  try to check with a live cd, if the partitions are there
[00:09] <gnutron> h00k: weird, sorry out of ideas.
[00:09] <Zimbo> I just installed sqlite3-doc, and while I figured out from poking around that it basically deposited a bunch of HTML files in /usr/share/doc/sqlite3-doc (and can open up index.html in there), how am I *supposed* to access those documents?  Shouldn't it have made a start menu icon somewhere?
[00:09] <Austin`> Having a problem with ubuntu: on my windows there are no close, minimize, or maximize buttons. I am using compiz to manage windows, gnome-window-decorator
[00:09] <h00k> gnutron, the drive accepted the CD, (it's not a tray, it's a slot)
[00:09] <Guest43923> oskar-: I know they are there because I can still boot into the Windows section...
[00:09] <histo> jrib, ActionParsnip I personally think he has issues with a specific piece of his hardware since this isn't the first time he has received errors installing updates.
[00:09] <ezzieyguywuf> can i get someone to help me get hdaps working properly on my thinkpad? i've to the tp_smapi package installed, and the tp_smapi module loads ok but i can't seem to get hdaps working
[00:09] <h00k> gnutron, yeah, I am too, we'll see if anyone else has any ideas.  thanks for the help anyway
[00:09] <Maizcul> Ctrl+W ftw.
[00:09] <__Zombie__> kernel 2.6.27-10
[00:09] <georgy_28> user__,  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01
[00:09] <sirchar> I installed open office formula, where do i have to go to open it?
[00:09] <Guest43923> oskar-: I just can't boot into the Ubuntu partition because the root= part is wrong, obviously.. :(
[00:09] <Xk2c> anyway fixed it
[00:09] <__Zombie__> x86-64
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> histo: try fixing xorg at failsafe boot
[00:09] <gnutron> h00k: best wishes.
[00:09] <Xk2c> [[ -e $(alias run-help)  ]] && unalias run-help
[00:10] <Xk2c> ;)
[00:10] <Xk2c> bye
[00:10] <h00k> So, my CDROM isn't ejecting my CD, 'eject' reports /dev/scd0 isn't a block device, and it used to work but isn't now.  any ideas? (Ibex i386, 2.6.27-9-generic) fstab: http://pastebin.com/d2eae43a5
[00:10] <georgy_28> user__, : you see ?
[00:10] <histo> ActionParsnip, first thing i'm going to do is look at the logs whne I get in.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> histo: best way
[00:10] <user__> georgy_28 oh, it's an Ethernet thing? though Ethernet is cable.  Sorry, as it's all chinese to me, i hadn't seen it
[00:10] <Guest43923> oskar-: for grub, is it kernel <path-here> root=/dev/sda
[00:10] <SpAc> I'm extracting a tar.gz and all the permissions are wrong. Everything has permissions of 755. Can I extract it so that it comes out with files as 644 and directories as 755?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> histo: you could try reinstalling all the debs in /var/apt/cache
[00:11] <user__> georgy_28 does this info help any?
[00:11] <histo> ActionParsnip, well the new ones will be there as well.
[00:11] <georgy_28> user_: yes, are you confortable with command ?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> histo: should be
[00:11] <oskar-> Guest43923:  root=/dev/sdaX, with X being the linux partition number
[00:11] <Guest43923> ok
[00:12] <oskar-> i must leave now. good luck and good night!
[00:12] <oskar-> ;-)
[00:12] <gnutron> SpAc: the directory must be executable, hence the 755 octals
[00:12] <Maizcul> Is there any keyboard shortcut for terminal or not?
[00:12] <user__> georgy_28 I'm new. Don't know any commands and installed everything by clicking in synaptics
[00:12] <zzlyzq> hehe  in China it is 8 morning
[00:12] <Izinucs> jrib: my FF bombed the other day for some reason and I had to delete ~/.mozilla .. I had a backup from my hardy install and mv ~/.mozilla.back to ~/.mozilla..
[00:12] <jrib> Maizcul: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts  to set one
[00:12] <__Zombie__> it used to work, then I reloaded and now it doesn't suspend completely
[00:12] <SpAc> gnutron: yeah, that part is fine. But all the files that extracted also have 755 permissions
[00:12] <georgy_28> user_: it will not be easy, but we will give a shot
[00:13] <jrib> Izinucs: does it make a difference if you mv ~/.mozilla/ again?  Does the issue persist after a reboot?
[00:13] <user__> georgy_28 I only know the lspci command that spits out a lot of things my computer has  ;-)
[00:13] <h00k> So, my CDROM isn't ejecting my CD, 'eject' reports /dev/scd0 isn't a block device, and it used to work but isn't now.  any ideas? (Ibex i386, 2.6.27-9-generic) fstab: http://pastebin.com/d2eae43a5
[00:13] <Maizcul> Thanks jrib
[00:13] <gnutron> SpAc: cd dir and chmod 644 * should be ok
[00:13] <DavidCanarias> What do I type in the command line to update serpentine Please. I have forgotten
[00:13] <georgy_28> user_: first disable the atheros driver from ubuntu
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> h00k: try: eject /dev/cdrom
[00:13] <Izinucs> jrib: I've since rebooted after moving the file.. I haven't tried just renaming the current .mozilla and letting the system recreate it yet..
[00:13] <user__> georgy_28: ok
[00:14] <filthpig> does anybody know if there will be a gtk port / ubuntu theme for Songbird? It's quite a nice app from what I've seen, but I don't like the design of it, it looks like an attempt to look too much like too many other things. (Yeah, I've already skinned it to something.. better;)
[00:14] <h00k> ActionParsnip, I've tried that, /dev/cdrom doesn't exist, neither does /dev/scd0
[00:14] <mohbana> do i need nspluginwrapper for java 32bit
[00:14] <user__> georgy_28 "this driver was just deactivated but is still in use
[00:15] <__Zombie__> How about this:  Anyone recommend a good Linux compatible GPS?
[00:15] <jrib> mohbana: nope, just use icedtea
[00:15] <mohbana> jrib: i trying to install jre6u11
[00:15] <jrib> mohbana: I assume you're using ubuntu 64bit?
[00:15] <mohbana> jrib: yes
[00:15] <filthpig> __Zombie__: this might help you http://tuxmobil.org/navigation_gps.html
[00:16] <georgy_28> user__, : wait a second
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> h00k: run mount. it will tell yuo whats mounted where. if you dont have /dev./scd0 you got an issue
[00:16] <scientes> wtf evolution doesnt support ipv6
[00:16] <jrib> mohbana: if you want a browser plugin, use icedtea.  Sun does not provide one.  If you just want the jre from sun, it's in the repositories as sun-java6-jre iirc
[00:16] <user__> georgy_28 yes. and thank you
[00:16] <__Zombie__> filthpig, Thanks
[00:16] <Maizcul> MY laptop has a FN key to use some keys as extra functions e.g. volume up etc. is there a way to enable these?
[00:16] <h00k> ActionParsnip, it's not there.  I know the drive works.
[00:17] <viniciusfs> hello all
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> h00k: mount will say where its mounted and what dev it is
[00:17] <Zimbo> OK, somewhat broader question... all the documentation in /usr/share/doc in Ubuntu... am I just supposed to *know* it's there and point a web browser at it, or is there a menu link to it somewhere?
[00:17] <DavidCanarias> what does it mean when a synta error pops up in the terminal
[00:17] <DavidCanarias> syntax
[00:17] <viniciusfs> i need some help to get my wireless intel 4965 agn working
[00:17] <viniciusfs> anyone can help me ?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> h00k: whats the output of: file /dev/scd0
[00:17] <mohbana> jrib: but i'm trying to install u11 it was released today
[00:17] <h00k> ActionParsnip, it doesn't exist :/
[00:17] <h00k> ActionParsnip, mount doesn't report it either
[00:18] <h00k> ActionParsnip, but it's in my fstab (which I haven't edited)
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> h00k: you got an issue with your drive then
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> h00k: or the config of
[00:18] <h00k> ActionParsnip, let me try to eject it before my lappy boots, I'll brb.
[00:18] <Izinucs> jrib: you know sometimes you just have to kick yourself.  I had the switch punched to move audio to my headphones so the speakers were "off".. >.<
[00:18] <filthpig> Maizcul: those should be enabled by default. What language/layout does your keyboard have, and what model is your computer?
[00:18] <jrib> Izinucs: heh
[00:19] <gnutron> h00k: man makedev in a terminal. use with caution.
[00:19] <jrib> mohbana: anything released today is not going to be in the repositories
[00:19] <mohbana> of course it's not
[00:19] <jrib> mohbana: in any case, you can't use nspluginwrapper for java afaik
[00:19] <Guest43923> right now I' looking at busybox, it says ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<seemingly random string> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[00:19] <mohbana> so how does the java plugin work
[00:19] <Semidios> anyone know how to fix this "Could not find sensor 'Rhythmlet'" when trying to add a Rhythmlet gDesklet widget
[00:20] <jrib> mohbana: you use icedtea...
[00:20] <Zimbo> All the documentation in /usr/share/doc in Ubuntu... am I just supposed to *know* it's there and point a web browser at it, or is there a menu link to it somewhere?
[00:20] <prahal_> is there a selinux version of cups-pdf ? apparmor is dead :(
[00:20] <mohbana> jrib: the sun plugin does't work?
[00:20] <jrib> mohbana: right
[00:20] <mohbana> jrib: how did it make itself in the repo
[00:20] <jrib> mohbana: huh?  How did what make itself in the repo?
[00:20] <prahal_> Zimbo, dwww on debian does the job you are looking after . Don't know if it exists on ubuntu
[00:21] <mohbana> jrib: how did it get in the repo if it doesn't work
[00:21] <Maizcul> Hmm, this is ever so slightly inconvenient, my scrol lock key is on my num lock key when it is pressed with the fn key, doh. /facepalm
[00:21] <kitche> mohbana: you are using icedtea which the sun plugin won't work with
[00:21] <jrib> mohbana: what is "it" in your sentence?
[00:21] <Zimbo> Thanks prahal
[00:21] <mohbana> jrib: the sun plugin
[00:21] <Flannel> !info dwww | Zimbo, prahal_
[00:21] <jrib> mohbana: what package are you referring to?
[00:21] <mohbana> jrib: sun jre and the plugin
[00:21] <jrib> mohbana: that's not the name of a package.
[00:22] <mohbana> it not relevant, i'm just asking if the sun's plugin works
[00:22] <zaza86> chat server:/join #ubuntu-it-chat
[00:22] <prahal_> Flannel, well the summary is wrong . It is read off-line documentation not on-line
[00:22] <jrib> mohbana: I told you, there does not exist a sun java plugin for 64bit
[00:22] <georgy_28> user__, go to http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>/  and download the latest release
[00:22] <h00k> FYI to anyone, the drive was apparently turned off in BIOS.
[00:22] <mohbana> jrib: so everyone has to install the icedtea plugin
[00:23] <jrib> mohbana: on 64bit yeah, or some plugin other than the one that doesn't exist from sun
[00:23] <Zimbo> dwww doesn't come installed with Ubuntu by default, although I can certainly add it.  It wants to also add a whole bunch of Apache-related items too, though -- 8.4GB to
[00:23] <Zimbo> total
[00:23] <furythor> Okay, I got my problem cleared, for some reason  Ubuntu can't get EDID information from my monitor, so what I can do now ?
[00:23] <gnutron> h00k: wheee, thats a good thing then.
[00:24] <filthpig> jrib: slightly OT, but that's pretty bad from Ye Olde Sun the OSS Lover
[00:24] <Izinucs> !resolution | furythor there's info here how to deal with that
[00:24] <h00k> gnutron, yeah, good, but why it was turned off is beyond me :)
[00:24] <h00k> gnutron, I was really hoping it was nothing too serious
[00:24] <davidkap> Does anyone know how I mount my external harddrive to have synchronous OFF?
[00:24] <jrib> filthpig: the bug is *years* old on their tracker
[00:24] <leonel_> I got freeNX (Nomachine) working locally, but that's not really what my goal is. Can anyone help me? I need to safely connect to my home computer from school. I read that you have to redirect the ssh request to my router, but I'm not that smart and I need someone to explain how to do it (in an easy to understand way).
[00:24] <user__> georgy_28 ok, i dl'ed the dec 4th version now to my desktop
[00:24] <gnutron> h00k: excellent question. i do not know but good detective work.
[00:24] <user__> georgy_28 and now?
[00:24] <DavidCanarias> I cant get Serpentine audio CD creator to open. Can anyone help please??
[00:24] <h00k> gnutron, thanks for your ideas.  Yeah, as far as figuring out why the BIOS changed itself is something I'm not qualified to figure out.
[00:24] <etherael> hey guys, quick q, I have a system with an onboard and a pci e based video card, both show up in lspci as fara s I can see (01:00.0 and 01:00.1) I'm running two monitors off one and want to run a third off the other, how would I go about doing this?
[00:25] <filthpig> jrib: I guess they hope to save money from opening the sourcecode and wait for Iced Tea to mature..
[00:25] <georgy_28> user__,  : open a terminal and type :  cd Desktop
[00:25] <filthpig> which is pretty un-userfriendly
[00:25] <wiijii> etherael I'm not sure you can
[00:25] <leonel_> I got freeNX (Nomachine) working locally, but that's not really what my goal is. Can anyone help me? I need to safely connect to my home computer from school. I read that you have to redirect the ssh request to my router, but I'm not that smart and I need someone to explain how to do it (in an easy to understand way).
[00:25] <Zimbo> leonel: Can you use ssh to connect to machines at school?  If not you're probably out of luck (unless you have a very cooperate IT guy at school)
[00:26] <etherael> wiijii, I don't even particularily mind if I run a completely different X process for the other video card, is there a way to isolate X and tell it to run only on a certain videocard?
[00:26] <furythor> For all I need, is to add this mode to my xorg.conf 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz
[00:26] <Zimbo> Leonel: sorry, ignore that, I read your request incorrectly
[00:26] <user__> georgy_28 terminal was still open from lscpi. so I'm now on my desktop in the terminal in /Desktop
[00:26] <leonel_> Zimbo: no problem
[00:26] <Maizcul> No keyboard layout for sony vaio? what would you recommend as closest?
[00:26] <wiijii> etherael possibly, but I've not heard of it being done. Have you looked around for others who might have done it?
[00:26] <leonel_> Zimbo: but you have any idea?
[00:26] <Zimbo> Leonel: (let me try again) -- How is your computer at home hooked to the Internet?  Cable modem?  DSL?  If there a router involved...?
[00:27] <wiijii> ethrael and what is the advantage of having two X servers using two cards...?
[00:27] <olivier^^> Hi, I just installed ubuntu et <i can't connect to the wired network, I don't have the Auto eth0
[00:27] <etherael> wiijii, That's why I'm here.
[00:27] <Zimbo> And what OSes are your home and school PCs running?
[00:27] <georgy_28> user__,  : sudo mv madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-r3879-20081204.tar.gz  /usr/local
[00:27] <leonel_> Zimbo: actually...
[00:27] <etherael> wiijii, more usable screen space.
[00:27] <wiijii> etherael Fair enough. Afraid I've never done that with X, so I'm not sure
[00:28] <leonel_> my pc at job is running ubuntu and i have win in my home
[00:28] <filthpig> Maizcul: try googling for it a little, normally you're not alone on such problems. I'm off to bed.. Way too late, as always :( night all
[00:28] <wiijii> etherael What sort of screen space? Can you not use multiple desktops?
[00:28] <prahal_> Zimbo, well could be 8M (installing on mine would take 5.5M including apache2) ... could well be that it trigger upgrade of half your current distribution if you had not upgraded for a long while
[00:28] <Ferrous> would anyone like to troubleshoot my external usb-interface hard drive?
[00:28] <leonel_> i can use this conncetion in the lan, you know 192.168....
[00:28] <user__> georgy_28 didn't do anythink apart from askin for my pw
[00:29] <leonel_> but i don't know how to connect from outside form example from my home
[00:29] <Zimbo> prahel: This machine is 8.04.  I might "pull the trigger" and install it anyway... in a bit.
[00:29] <georgy_28> user_: that's ok, type your password
[00:29] <sirjoebob> how can I install a new module in webmin?
[00:29] <user__> georgy_28 oh and the file diesappeared from my dektop
[00:29] <etherael> wiijii, Ideally I like to code with three screens, one for doco one for code layout and one for execution / display / debug
[00:30] <Zimbo> leonel: OK, gotcha... if your home PC is 192.168..., that would imply there a router between your home PC and the Internet.  There are two things you should do: (1) Set your home PC to a fixed IP address, and then (2) forward port 22 (SSH) on your router to the fixed IP of your home PC
[00:30] <georgy_28> user_ great, now type cd /usr/local
[00:30] <smee2> what folder is .bachrc in?
[00:30] <wiijii> Etherael, So you have a third monitor?
[00:30] <Zimbo> leonel: Doing #2 is a function of the manufacturer/model of router you're using... they're all similar, however... if you know the model we can probably find a web page that describes the process
[00:30] <wiijii> etherael, So you have a third monitor?
[00:30] <rellik> anybody here have success with external webcams?  I plug my logitech quick cam in, and it shows up as /dev/video0, and from both lsusb (correctly identified) and lsmod (is using usbcore and videodev)..  so it seems it was correctly detected, but 'cheese' and 'easycam-gtk' both report that there is no webcam on the system..  any ideas what's going on?
[00:30] <etherael> wiijii, yep, two monitors attached to one card, third monitor attached to the onboard.
[00:31] <user__> georgy_28 ok
[00:31] <wiijii> etherael, Aaaah sorry, I thought you just wanted another X server... on the same monitor!  Yeah I use two monitors, couldn't do without them
[00:31] <prahal_> smee2, ~/
[00:31] <nova_> can anyone help with getting ibex 64bit to work with my Logitech MX 620?
[00:31] <smee2> cd ..
[00:31] <georgy_28> user : tar xvzf madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-r3879-20081204.tar.gz
[00:31] <smee2> oops
[00:32] <jordo2323> What do you do if an update is stuck in the middle and won't go further? Hasn't for twenty minutes. The terminal details states its stuck on gedit and I have full internet connectivity obviously....
[00:32] <leonel_> Zimbo: ok, so what about if I want to do same thing in two computer at home, can i redirect to ip address in my router?
[00:32] <Zimbo> leonel: Also (3) -- You need to know the actual Internet IP address of your DSL/cable modem connection.  It might (probably does) change from time to time, and you use something like dyndns.org to "fix" that problem, but let's worry about that later. For right now, from your home machine, just go to something like http://www.myipis.org/ and note down what it tells you.
[00:32] <user__> georgy_28 done.    Oh, how i hate xchat here. when i click on another place down in the bar ubuntu doens't change to there, i must first minimize xchat. whith other progs it works.
[00:32] <wiijii> etherael I see what you mean, but is it possible to be using two different graphics drivers simultaneously? Or for one driver to control two GPUs?
[00:32] <vahnx> how do you create a drop down menu on a panel for your documents in xfce
[00:32] <vahnx> i had one before but cannot recreate it
[00:32] <smee2> prahal_: is it hidden?  i can't seem to find it
[00:33] <etherael> wiijii, I am not sure you can tell a single X process to do that, but I can't imagine you can't just run a second X display and say "hey there's a card at this PCI bus please talk only to it and use driver x"
[00:33] <leonel_> Zimbo: ok, so what about if I want to do same thing in two computer at home, can i redirect to ip address in my router?
[00:33] <user__> georgy_28 many erros
[00:33] <prahal_> smee2, yes . Every dot<file> are hidden
[00:33] <Zimbo> leonel: If you have multiple PCs at home, what you have to do is either (1) get your ISP to provide you with multiple IP addresses (usually costs money, so this is not at all a common practice) or (2) you decide to use a non-standard port on the Internet for SSH to the 2nd PC (instead of port 22, use, e.g., 2222), and then have the router direct port 22 to PC #1 (port 22) and port 2222 to PC #2 (port 22)
[00:34] <Zimbo> leonel: (The second method there is pretty common...)
[00:34] <georgy_28> user_ : know we must be sure that you have all the packages to build the driver : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:34] <vahnx> how do i disable minimize effects with compiz disabled and keeping the window contents when dragging
[00:34] <wiijii> etherael Sounds interesting, I'd never considered it
[00:34] <Lagos> Interesting. Native Command Queuing is available but turned off on every sata drive I have. I know I can do echo 31 > /sys/block/sdb/device/queue_depth to turn that on.
[00:34] <viniciusfs> anyone can help me with intel wireless 4965 agn?
[00:34] <Lagos> But I wonder where it's being set this way.
[00:34] <wiijii> etherael Have you asked about in the xorg channel or similar?
[00:34] <user__> georgy_28 can't open - no such file or directory   a hundred times  and then in the end: error finishing caused by previous errors
[00:34] <Lagos> My impression was it'd be off by default.
[00:34] <prahal_> you can switch hidden visbility in nautilus Ctrl+H
[00:34] <leonel_> Zimbo: Perfect!! thank a lot !!
[00:34] <etherael> wiijii, That's a good idea, thanks, I'll check there.
[00:34] <albertolempira> hey guys anyone knows how can i get 4.0 sound on a Realtek ALC662?, I already have 6.0 sound but this option don't let me use the mic input and i only have 2.0 and 6.0 sound options...
[00:34] <Zimbo> leonel: Sure thing, good luck!
[00:35] <georgy_28> user_ : sudo tar xvzf file
[00:35] <wiijii> etherael Good luck, let me know if you find out anything anytime soon
[00:35] <smee2> prahal_: what's nautilus?
[00:35] <Lagos> Er, on by default.
[00:36] <Zimbo> leonel: I should mention that when you start nxclient from school you of course have to tell it that PC #2 is using port 2222 as well :-)
[00:36] <prahal_> smee2, the file manager
[00:36] <leonel> Zimbo:  you are missing  a  _   that's   not me :)
[00:36] <user__> georgy_28 instead of file i copy the name of the thing i downloaded from the website?
[00:36] <georgy_28> user_ : yes, but do a ls and pastebin please
[00:37] <Zimbo> leonel: Ah, I see... IRC appends a "_" when a second user of the same name signs on then?  Interesting.
[00:37] <smee2> prahal_: awesome, i found it.  thanks a lot.
[00:38] <lolboi> hey guys i tired installing java got to the agreement page and closed it sice i thouht it was done, now i try opening synaptic and i get this error : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:38] <lolboi> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[00:38] <lolboi>  what do i do?
[00:38] <prahal_> so there is no way to use cups-pdf if one has a 2.6.28 kernel (no apparmor anymore) ?
[00:38] <prahal_> your welcome
[00:38] <nbeebo> how can u see icons with conky?
[00:38] <user__> georgy_28 now it worked. this time i didn't copa from here but i typed it letter by letter
[00:38] <Maizcul> anyone got any ideas on laptop fn key?
[00:38] <Guest43923> what software can be used (for windows) to create a flash drive
[00:38] <Guest43923> flash drive usb bootable
[00:39] <nbeebo> program for windows? #windows...
[00:39] <user__> georgy_28 now i do the sudo apt-get install build-essential thing?
[00:39] <FishieFoo> Transmission BitTorrent client downloaded 5GB, but the destination folder only has 4MB... what's wrong with it?
[00:39] <rellik> anybody here have success with external webcams?  I plug my logitech quick cam in, and it shows up as /dev/video0, and from both lsusb (correctly identified) and lsmod (is using usbcore and videodev)..  so it seems it was correctly detected, but 'cheese' and 'easycam-gtk' both report that there is no webcam on the system..  any ideas what's going on?
[00:39] <prahal_> lolboi, I would dpkg -P <java_package_name> and reinstall (though you should report the issue there is a bug
[00:39] <x[Mop]x> Hey - How can I get cpu temperature nformation in Ubuntu server?
[00:39] <nbeebo> why does conky cover up my icons
[00:39] <georgy_28> user_: yes
[00:40] <z4chh> anyone have experience with goffice...i can't seem to find much documentation on it
[00:40] <z4chh> ?
[00:40] <FishieFoo> nevermind. found the destination folder changed.
[00:41] <prahal_> rellik, about success yes (uvc webcam , cheese 2.24)
[00:41] <user__> georgy_28 ok. http://pastebin.com/m4e643ee0
[00:41] <rellik> prahal_, what's "uvc" ?
[00:41] <rellik> a brank?
[00:41] <rellik> brand
[00:41] <prahal_> rellik, lshal |less then / and video0
[00:41] <prahal_> rellik, a class of webcam (standardized)
[00:42] <Maizcul> I'm still failing at the fn keys, any ideas? i'm totally stumped :s
[00:42] <leonel_> "It might (probably does) change from time to time, and you use something like dyndns.org to "fix" that problem" anybody knows how to fix it?
[00:42] <prahal_> rellik, I ll try with my gspca webcam on this computer (my only ubuntu)
[00:42] <rellik> prahal_, lshal doesn't have video0..   I'm not familiar with lshal..  what is a HAL device?
[00:42] <prahal_> other are debian and gspca driven webcams works . What is the driver of your webcam (lshw)
[00:43] <leonel_> "It might (probably does) change from time to time, and you use something like dyndns.org to "fix" that problem" anybody knows how to fix it?
[00:43] <georgy_28> user__, : ok, know do a cd to the madwifi repository ( to help type madwifi and then tab key to complete)
[00:43] <user__> georgy_28 it says it's already latest version and that some packets are no longer needed  and that 0 things have ben actualized, 0  newly installed, 0 removed
[00:43] <nbeebo> anyone know how i can have some kind of note on desktop?
[00:43] <wiijii> xnotes?
[00:43] <duarte> duarte
[00:43] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_ : are you talking about your IP address?
[00:43] <georgy_28> user__, : don't care
[00:43] <user__> georgy_28 am there
[00:44] <duarte> hallo
[00:44] <nbeebo> nah i mean like ... hmm
[00:44] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: yes
[00:44] <zzlyzq> it is hello
[00:44] <zzlyzq> hehe
[00:44] <prahal_> rellik, hal is a software layer that register every device and its capabilities and provides this data to applications . Nowadays most applications ask to the hal laye for to know if a device is there, if it is a webcam , etc
[00:44] <georgy_28> user_: type sudo make
[00:44] <x[Mop]x> Hey - How can I get cpu temperature information in Ubuntu server?
[00:44] <nbeebo> decorationless note.. like conky
[00:45] <zzlyzq> maybe 'dmesg' command
[00:45] <uc50ic4more> leonel_: you can sign up for an account @ dyndns.com, install a program called ddclient, and it will keep your dyndns.org account; let's say leonel.dyndns.org, pointed to your IP
[00:45] <rellik> prahal_, weird..  neither lshal nor lshw show my webcam..  but lsmod and lsusb do
[00:45] <nbeebo> x[mop]x maybe try
[00:45] <user__> georgy_28 it's making
[00:45] <prahal_> rellik, what about lshw ? I am interested and in the driver attachd to the webcam
[00:45] <nbeebo> !info hddtemp
[00:45] <georgy_28> user__, : sudo make install
[00:45] <x[Mop]x> Nbeebo: In the console?
[00:45] <Maizcul> Fn key makes me sad =[
[00:45] <prahal_> lsusb is not that helpful in that it shows devices even when there is no driver
[00:45] <rellik> prahal_, nope not in lshw
[00:46] <user__> gerogy_28 it has not yet finished the make
[00:46] <xclonx> ham?
[00:46] <prahal_> lsmod ... what does it tell you about your webcam ?
[00:46] <nbeebo> x[mop]x its a program so "sudo aptitude install hddtemp" then "man hddtemp" to see how u use it i guess
[00:46] <xclonx> sugi pula?
[00:46] <user__> gerogy_28 some error messages occurred
[00:46] <Lagos> So is Native Command Queuing disabled by default in Linux?
[00:46] <x[Mop]x> Ok, thanks
[00:46] <georgy_28> user_ : ok, when finish do the next command
[00:46] <Thorgrimr> If I have VPNC configured, shouldn't I be able to add it to Network Manager as a VPN connection?
[00:46] <nbeebo> whats the program u remove window decorations? i forgot
[00:46] <user__> georgy_28 now making install
[00:46] <rellik> prahal_, according to lsmod it's using usbcore and videodev
[00:47] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: and when I want to use Nomachine to connect to that ip, will it work?
[00:47] <nbeebo> whats the program to remove window decorations? i forgot
[00:47] <nova_> anyone? any help with my usb mouse situation?
[00:48] <user__> georgy_28 finished
[00:48] <prahal_> rellik, those are not webcam drivers (usbcore is for the usb managment and videodev is a layer for video but cannot drive a webcam by itself
[00:48] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: sorry, i am not familiar w/ Nomachine, but anyhting that needs your IP to connect ought to be able to use yourname.dyndns.org to connect to you
[00:48] <NotSoSuperMario> Hey can someone help me with a dumb syntax question? /home/geoff/source ! -name *.svn -exec cp '{}' /home/geoff/destination \; will copy all the files in the source directory to the destination, but it doesn't preserve subdirectories
[00:48] <prahal_> rellik, do you have gspca
[00:48] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: my cable internet IP changes perhaps once, twice per year, but some DSL people I know have theirs change daily, upon boot up
[00:48] <rellik> prahal_, not unless it came with ubuntu..  haven't used a webcam with this box before
[00:48] <nbeebo> how do i remove title bars?
[00:48] <NotSoSuperMario> how can I get it to preserve subdirectories will still filtering out .svn files?
[00:48] <Maizcul> anyone help with the laptop fn key not working issue?
[00:49] <user__> georgy_28 and now?
[00:49] <NotSoSuperMario> while still*
[00:49] <georgy_28> user_ : now do sudo depmod -a, then reboot. If everthing goes well, if you type iwconfig in a terminal, normally your wifi device must be there
[00:49] <nbeebo> how do u remove window decorations??????????
[00:49] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: I have cable too, and want to use a remote desktop like VCN
[00:49] <user__> georgy_28 is this non free as well or is this one free?
[00:49] <rellik> prahal_, apt-cache shows gspca-source and easygspca (description in french)..  either of those what I need?
[00:49] <georgy_28> user__, it's free
[00:49] <fightskillz> .
[00:49] <Maizcul> nbeebo: try sudo shutdown
[00:50] <nbeebo> !report
[00:50] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: then yes, DynDNS is your perfect solution -- I admin several machines using VNC and my clients DynDNS accounts
[00:50] <remi> what would be the best way to know *live* which processes are using the most network resources? something like "iptraf" but with the associated process name?
[00:50] <wiijii> remi I think there was a post on slashdot recently about something similar
[00:50] <albertolempira> hey guys anyone knows how can i get 4.0 sound on a Realtek ALC662?, I already have 6.0 sound but this option don't let me use the mic input and i only have 2.0 and 6.0 sound options...
[00:51] <prahal_> rellik, lsmod |grep zc0301 ?
[00:51] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: the DynDNS site has info also on how to set up ddclient, but the installation of ddclient is pretty self explanatory, in that it is a text-based installer that prompts you for some info
[00:51] <nbeebo> how do u remove window decorations??????????
[00:51] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: I know that I have to forward the port 22 to my internal IP, I don't want to loose the possibility to connect to my home computer because the Public ip change
[00:51] <rellik> prahal_, nothing
[00:51] <prahal_> rellik, I would sudo apt-get install gspca-source
[00:51] <user__> georgy_28 ok, done. thank you very much. Good to hear it's free. i like free more than closed- and actually the free driver for my ati graphics card woks better than the non-free one that has no stable image
[00:52] <remi> wiijii: thanks, I'll look that way :)
[00:52] <user__> georgy_28 so i will reboot now, see you in a few minutes
[00:52] <prahal_> rellik, in the mean time I ll try to find out if your webcam is supported by gspca or another driver (gspca could not hurt being installed though)
[00:52] <georgy_28> user__, : ok
[00:52] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: whatever is responsible for your public IP (let's say a router, for example) should have the facility to report the IP to DynDNS.. then, you forward port 22 to the machine you want, and make sure the target machine is open on port 22 and has a VNC server, etc.
[00:52] <rellik> prahal_, got it..  but not sure how to use it
[00:52] <prahal_> rellik, could you tell me lsusb output for your webcam ?
[00:53] <openly> hi
[00:53] <rellik> prahal_, Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:0870 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[00:53] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: having said that, the ddclient software *takes into account* if you are behind a router IIRC.. the better option, though, is to set up "DDNS" on your router
[00:53] <NotSoSuperMario> oh, I missed a bit. I meant to say "find /home/geoff/source ! -name *.svn -exec cp '{}' /home/geoff/destination \;" won't copy sub-directories, just the files in them. Can anyone tell me how to get it to preserve the file tree while still filtering out SVN files?
[00:54] <nbeebo> well cya all except selfish id**ts like <Maizcul>
[00:54] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: Ok, I'll try it, Thanks a lot man!!!
[00:54] <badawi>   !ping
[00:54] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: no problem!
[00:55] <prahal_> any dkms user could tell how to install a module via dkms (without rebooting that , that I know of
[00:56] <TGLL> I heard that ubuntu is some derivative of Debian.
[00:56] <Maizcul> anyone got ideas on how to get laptops fn keys to work?
[00:56] <uc50ic4more> @prahal_: i *thought* that having the dkms package installed attended to updating kernel modules automagically
[00:57] <Flannel> TGLL: Debian is the rock on which Ubuntu is built, yes,
[00:57] <Nick924em> TGLL, it is based on Debian
[00:57] <Maizcul> It's a Sony Vaio PCG-K195BP if that helps at all :/
[00:57] <uc50ic4more> @prahal_: meaning that i was not aware that any kernel module needed to be installed "via dkms"
[00:57] <TGLL> So, is it somehow better than Debian?
[00:57] <TGLL> or easier to set up?
[00:57] <prahal_> uc50ic4more, don't know yet . I have a 2.6.28 kernel and everyting I need is included
[00:57] <prahal_> thanks
[00:57] <[e]Lement> The server vesion is the exact same to setup
[00:57] <[e]Lement> The desktop version is much easier
[00:58] <Nick924em> TGLL, dont you think we'd be a bit biased to answer that? :)
[00:58] <uc50ic4more> @prahal_: my only experience with this issue is VirtualBox , which suggest installing dkms to auto matically update the kernel modules
[00:58] <Maizcul> easier to set up i'd say
[00:58] <Flannel> TGLL: It tries to accomplish different goals.  One of which is ease of use (and set up), yes
[00:58] <[e]Lement> TGLL, are you looking to use it for a Desktop or a Server?
[00:59] <TGLL> I'm just interested in using it for a home PC.
[00:59] <[e]Lement> Yeah, it's alot easier to setup and use.
[00:59] <TGLL> And as with Linux in general, it's worth the trouble because of all the free open-source software out there.
[01:00] <[e]Lement> Compared to Debian, of course. If you were going to be using it for a server, I would have just told you to use Debian.
[01:00] <user__> georgy_28 no, no success  :-(
[01:00] <Maizcul> trouble, what trouble?
[01:00] <sloopy> TGLL, in my opinion ubuntu is a more refined and user ready desktop os
[01:00] <badawi> in NetworkManager, i need help setting the routes for vpn, the "Editing IPv4 routes" dialog, i don't understand this window, what's prefix and metric, all i want is to have all <IP_ADDRESS>/24 traffic go thru vpn which the connection creates
[01:00] <prahal_> rellik, ok you want sudo apt-get install qc-usb-source
[01:00] <[e]Lement> sloopy, agreed.
[01:00] <user__> georgy_28 no wireless extensions
[01:00] <prahal_> http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[01:00] <Guest43923> I'm live booting from a USB... fdisk -l only lists the USB in /dev/sdaX
[01:00] <Guest43923> How do I list the hard drive itself
[01:01] <prahal_> Guest43923, fdisk -l /dev/sdb ?
[01:01] <Maizcul> is there somewhere i can browse through a list of extra keyboard setups?
[01:01] <TGLL> How is the technical support for ubuntu?
[01:01] <georgy_28> user_ : strange, go to the madwifi repository i usr/local , do sudo make and pastebin the output please
[01:02] <sloopy> TGLL, debian is mostly designed to be a stable reliable OS, whereas ubuntu is more trying to be a workable and decent desktop OS for the people looking for a windows alternative
[01:02] <[e]Lement> But it's still stable
[01:02] <TGLL> not quite as stable as Windows?
[01:02] <sloopy> TGLL, both debian and ubuntu have alot of support
[01:02] <[e]Lement> Ubuntu is far-more stable than Windows XP
[01:02] <sloopy> TGLL, much more stable then windows
[01:02] <TGLL> or vista?
[01:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TGLL, far more stable than Windows, not as stable as Debian stable
[01:02] <rellik> prahal_, cool..  so now I've downloaded the source, and I'm ready to make it..  but where do source packages live?
[01:03] <sloopy> only thing less stable then vista is Me
[01:03] <damagu> Hi all, I am having trouble getting tap-to-click disabled on my trackpad. I have tried following advice on different forum posts but it hasn't worked. I installed gsynaptics but when I run it I get this error:"GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics". I tried adding the line 'Option "SHMConfig" "true"' to my xorg.conf... but that didn't work... I tried "on" instead of
[01:03] <[e]Lement> TGLL, Vista has gotten alot better.  They are releasing a new OS tho.  Microsoft Windows 7 is due out in June / July of 2009
[01:03] <Nick924em> How would i back up all files with filenames starting with journal   ... like journal1 journal2 etc...that are in /home/whoever/ with rsync?
[01:03] <Maizcul> Tbh, you can only use stable and windows in the same sentan
[01:03] <Lagos> Debian and Ubuntu have very similar code bases. Ubuntu tends to make more desktop-friendly configuration choices in the default install. Ubuntu generally has a more extensive set of audio card drivers enabled in the default kernel, for example.
[01:03] <Maizcul> sentance* when is not is placed between
[01:03] <[e]Lement> And Microsoft Windows 7 is really really good.  But that aside.  But yes, Ubuntu works best out of box.
[01:04] <prahal_> rellik, /usr/src though it should have been  build and installed automagically by dkms
[01:04] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Lagos, there's very little practical difference - I use both regularly - Ubuntu is a bit more newbie friendly
[01:04] <TGLL> How can one have a better desktop than the other, if KDE and GNOME are the same?
[01:04] <prahal_> you just need to unplug then plug the camera
[01:04] <Lagos> I've seen some notable differences in driver support in the default kernels, Jewfro.
[01:04] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TGLL, both are nice, it's a preference
[01:04] <[e]Lement> I prefer GNOME
[01:04] <Maveas> [e]Lement: srly? is it THAT GOOD?
[01:04] <Lagos> Userland is very similar.
[01:05] <user__> georgy_28 http://pastebin.com/m3ff0194e
[01:05] <sloopy> TGLL, kde and gnome are very configurable, each has its good/bad sides
[01:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Lagos, haven't noticed as I've standard older hardware I guess
[01:05] <[e]Lement> Yeah, Memory Management was entirely rewritten.  So it's not a resource hog anymore.
[01:05] <damagu> Oh I also tried adding the option "Movtaptime" (or whatever it was) "0" and someone else said set it to "2" which didn't work either
[01:05] <rellik> prahal_, interesting.. never really understood source packages..  so they get downloaded as source, then compiled locally instead of downloaded as a precompiled package?
[01:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TGLL, but I frequently compile my own using latest kernel.org sources anyway
[01:05] <mker> TGLL, Gnome and KDE is a matter of taste. You can use KDE apps in Gnome and Gnome apps in KDE.
[01:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Lagos, but I frequently compile my own using latest kernel.org sources anyway
[01:05] <georgy_28> user_ : do the same with sudo make install
[01:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TGLL, ignore that
[01:05] <Maveas> [e]Lement: sweet.. so how better in performance compared to vista is 7?
[01:05] <Lagos> Yeah.
[01:06] <TGLL> Is the KDE desktop the same in all linux distributions?
[01:06] <sloopy> TGLL, and have both installed on one machine, (like i prefer gnome and my mrs prefers kde)
[01:06] <Flannel> TGLL: Not exactly the same, but similar, yes
[01:06] <TGLL> Is the gNOME desktop the same in all linux distributions?
[01:06] <Flannel> TGLL: Not exactly the same, but similar, yes
[01:06] <prahal_> rellik, well usually you unzip them then ./configure, make, make install . Though the kernel modules for ubuntu are done automtically if you use the package they provide
[01:06] <[e]Lement> Maveas, it is a pre-beta version.  But people have it running better than Vista, on 1 GB of RAM
[01:06] <Nick924em> How would i back up all files with filenames starting with journal   ... like journal1 journal2 etc...that are in /home/whoever/ with rsync?
[01:06] <Ninina> I had to force a reboot of X and when it came back all my icons had changed and they are very ugly, anyone know how to fix this?
[01:06] <TGLL> So, the KDE project makes different versions for different distributions?
[01:06] <Maveas> [e]Lement: But HOW much? :)
[01:07] <Flannel> TGLL: no, the distros customize them theirselves
[01:07] <Maveas> [e]Lement: 10%, 20%, 30% or higher?
[01:07] <zzlyzq> I am registing a channel in freenode.net ,but it want my "GPG or PGP public key" how do i get it !!!!!
[01:07] <Flannel> Maveas, [e]Lement: Please take the windows discussin elsewhere.  perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[01:07] <user__> georgy_28 http://pastebin.com/m54e64988
[01:07] <[e]Lement> As far as I know percentages were not calculated yet.  But startup, shutdown, and everything else is faster.  Plus all Vista apps are compatable.  But I am sure Ubuntu will still be more stable.
[01:07] <[e]Lement> Flannel, it was relating to Ubuntu
[01:07] <rellik> prahal_, cool..  I do see the file they wanted me to insmod is now at: /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/ubuntu/qc-usb/quickcam.ko...       do I actually have to insmod it everytime or should it just get automatically used (I just unplugged/replugged it and it didn't show up in lsmod)
[01:07] <mker> zzlyzq, Applications -> Accessories -> Passwords and encryption keys
[01:08] <badawi> Edit IPv4 routes in network manager seems buggy
[01:08] <prahal_> Ninina, probably a theme was removed before you restarted X . gnome-appearance-properties
[01:08] <TGLL> zzlyzq, what would be the purpose of your new channel?
[01:08] <zzlyzq> thankyou
[01:08] <dn_> anyone have any recommendations for deleting the data on a hard drive that has a ReiserFS?
[01:08] <zzlyzq> mker thanks
[01:08] <Maizcul> Vista was windows MEv2, Windows 7 is more like XPv2 :P
[01:08] <Flannel> [e]Lement: I know.  It was, it has since moved away from that.
[01:08] <Flannel> dn_: shred
[01:08] <mib_zbgxvl> hi all im trying to install java-jdk on my machine but keep getting this error - http://www.mibbit.com/pb/YWMYAJ - whats wrong with my machine?
[01:08] <damagu> Hi all, I am having trouble getting tap-to-click disabled on my trackpad. I have tried following advice on different forum posts but it hasn't worked. I installed gsynaptics but when I run it I get this error:"GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics". I tried adding the line 'Option "SHMConfig" "true"' to my xorg.conf... but that didn't work... I tried "on" instead
[01:08] <dmsuperman> Maizcul: Take the offtopic elsewhere
[01:08] <dn_> man shred says shred isn't useful for reiser
[01:08] <georgy_28> user__,  there is no error, try a sudo modprobe ath_pci and then a iwconfig
[01:09] <dn_> but is that only for deleting single files? i want to clear the whole drivce
[01:09] <dn_> drive*
[01:09] <Ninina> prahal: when I use that only the appearance window changes everything else stays the same
[01:09] <mker> dn_, check out dban
[01:09] <uc50ic4more> @Nick924em: that sounds tricky -- i am sure it's possible, but may require some shell scripting; meaning i am unsure if rsync has that facility itself
[01:09] <Flannel> dn_: shred will do while drives, files, etc.
[01:09] <prahal_> rellik,  hum weird . You could add it in the meantime to /etc/modules. Does the camera work with the module :  "sudo modprobe quickam"
[01:09] <zzlyzq> TGLL My school is organized a commity about linux ,we are in China,we also need linux.
[01:09] <dn_> Flannel: even in light of it not working well on reiser?
[01:09] <mker> dn_, if you want to delete everything on the drive it doesn't matter what filesystem you used :)
[01:09] <Nick924em> dang ok, thanks uc50ic4more ill poke around google for a bit and see what comes up :)
[01:10] <Hermanon> hi,am trying to connectt through my mobile broadband ,when i set the network(on mob) to gprs it connects and works,but when i set it to umts (the one i want) it refuses to connect please help?
[01:10] <Maizcul> It wasn't that far offtopic tbh ... i'm failing at getting my keyboard working right >.>
[01:10] <Flannel> dn_: If you're really worried about it, reformat the partition to FAT or something, then shred it.
[01:10] <dn_> yea that's what i figured
[01:10] <Lagos> Are you trying to wipe all data on the drive or one particular file?
[01:10] <dn_> "no where to hide" :P
[01:10] <user__> georgy_28: http://pastebin.com/m79185237
[01:10] <rellik> prahal_, modprobing quickcam worked, but still 'cheese' reports no webcam :(
[01:11] <badawi> anyone for a routing question with NetworkManager? -> i need help setting the routes for vpn, the "Editing IPv4 routes" dialog, what's prefix and metric, all i want is to have all <IP_ADDRESS>/24 traffic go thru vpn which the connection creates
[01:11] <georgy_28> user_ : yes, ath0 is your wifi
[01:11] <mker> dn_, http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[01:11] <zzlyzq> mker i can't find "passwords and encryption keys"
[01:11] <AguchoB> guys ive got a rpoblem
[01:11] <dn_> thanks mker, i had a look at that
[01:11] <AguchoB> i can install hardy perfectly but not intrepid
[01:11] <Lagos> The objection to using shred for Reiser is that it is journaled, according to the man page. IIRC, by default Reiser only journals metadata.
[01:11] <prahal_> rellik, does it also build a qc-usb driver or only quickam ?
[01:11] <zzlyzq> My linux version is fedora 10.
[01:12] <AguchoB> one thing i notice is taht when i put the intrepid cd it doesnt load the core
[01:12] <dn_> i'm a bit noobish.. what is metadata?
[01:12] <Nick924em> AguchoB, you sure that's a 'problem'? hint hint 8.04 > 8.10
[01:12] <Lagos> Data is what is in a file.
[01:12] <openly> could anyone tell me how i can look into getting my zte mf622 working?
[01:12] <bazhang> zzlyzq, #fedora
[01:12] <user__> georgy_28 but after restart the ath0 thing didn't show up. only now.
[01:12] <Lagos> metadata is the file name, the file owner, the contents of directories, etc.
[01:12] <AguchoB> yes couse now on hardy recently installed
[01:12] <mker> zzlyzq, why don't you ask in the fedora channel then? the program is actually called seahorse, don't know what Fedora calls it.
[01:12] <AguchoB> i put hardy un run perfect
[01:12] <user__> georgy_28  YES!!!!!! now it works
[01:12] <AguchoB> i put intrepid and doesnt
[01:12] <georgy_28> user__,  : yes, it don't load at startup
[01:12] <openly> i'm getting an ip address from the device but can't ping
[01:12] <bazhang> zzlyzq, this is ubuntu support please /join #fedora
[01:12] <damagu> rellik: have you checked that your webcam is enabled in the bios?
[01:12] <mker> AguchoB, onemesg
[01:12] <mker> AguchoB, Please keep your question in *one* message. It makes it easier for us to read and increases your chances of getting an answer.
[01:13] <AguchoB> sorry..
[01:13] <user__> georgy_28: i see netwoks now! :-) Thank you!
[01:13] <Lagos> By journaling metadata only the goal is to keep the filesystem structure itself consistent. It doesn't protect data. This is the default behavior in ext3 and if I recall in Reiser.
[01:13] <georgy_28> user__, wait, we are not finish  we have to say to start at startup
[01:13] <Nick924em> AguchoB, what's in 8.10 that you need that's not in 8.04?
[01:13] <user__> georgy_28: it doesn't load at start up?  So i must perfom the make and the make install each time i start the comp?
[01:13] <prahal_> rellik, you should take a look at "dmesg" output after plugging the camera
[01:13] <AguchoB> nothing just testing....
[01:13] <user__> georgy_28 ah
[01:13] <[e]Lement> Reiser killed his wife
[01:13] <uc50ic4more> @Nick924em: i just found some info, loosely related to your rsync issue, using "find" w/ rsync -- http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/rsync-only-backup-recently-modified-files-360046/
[01:14] <user__> georgy_28 ok
[01:14] <Hermanon> hi,am trying to connectt through my mobile broadband ,when i set the network(on mob) to gprs it connects and works,but when i set it to umts (the one i want) it refuses to connect please help?
[01:14] <rellik> prahal_, how would I tell?  I checked the same dir (kernel/ubuntu/qc-usb/) where quickcam.ko lives and there are no other files
[01:14] <badawi> !ping > badawi
[01:14] <AguchoB> some guys tellme that in 8.10 linux resolve the problem with ati card the flickering problem
[01:14] <Nick924em> uc50ic4more, ty :)  I'll check it out thanks!
[01:14] <rellik> prahal_, one sec..  lemme check dmesg
[01:14] <damagu> prahal_ I had trouble with my webcam and found it needed to be enabled in the bios
[01:14] <Smegzor> Is there any software for sending faxes in linux?  I couldn't see much in the repo.
[01:14] <dn_> thanks Lagos (and others :))
[01:14] <georgy_28> user__,  sudo gedit /etc/modules and add at the end of the file ath_pci and save
[01:15] <dn_> an annoying question, but any idea how long dban would take on on a 160gb SATA drive?
[01:15] <dn_> or how long shred would take
[01:15] <damagu> Hi all, I am having trouble getting tap-to-click disabled on my trackpad. I have tried following advice on different forum posts but it hasn't worked. I installed gsynaptics but when I run it I get this error:"GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics". I tried adding the line 'Option "SHMConfig" "true"' to my xorg.conf... but that didn't work... I tried "on" instead
[01:15] <AguchoB> for me it a bug with the intrepid install and sata drivers...
[01:15] <prahal_> damagu, yep for internal camera (I had the same issue on this eeepc :) but this quickam express is external I bet
[01:15] <dn_> want to work out if i should fire up my old server and run it in that or just take some downtime on the computer with the drive
[01:16] <Lagos> The default number of iterations is 25. On a 7.2 RPM SATA drive you're probably looking at 50 MB/s sustained write speed (conservative).
[01:16] <Maizcul> depends on HDD speed
[01:16] <rellik> prahal_, dmesg output: http://pastie.org/331484
[01:16] <damagu> prahal_ have you tried disabling click to tap on your eeepc... that's what I'mhaving trouble with?
[01:16] <dn_> a rough estimate
[01:16] <rellik> damagu, it's a USB webcam so I don't know that my bios knows anything about it
[01:16] <AguchoB> any know why happens this issue?
[01:16] <user__> georgy_28 at the end of what file?
[01:16] <Lagos> So one iteration of 160 GB will probably take 53 minutes.
[01:17] <Lagos> 25 of them will take a day.
[01:17] <dn_> i read that shred -z would take like 3 days
[01:17] <georgy_28> user__,  /etc/modules
[01:17] <damagu> rellik: sorry. I just fixed my internal one via the bios
[01:17] <user__> georgy_28  "andy@ubuntu:/usr/local/madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-r3879-20081204$  sudo gedit /etc/modules/ath_pci
[01:17] <user__> "?
[01:17] <Lagos> Assuming a write speed of 50 MB/s. Can you execute a command for me, dn?
[01:18] <dn_> sure
[01:18] <Lagos> sudo hdparm -t /dev/<yourdrive>
[01:18] <Lagos> Where your drive is sda or sdb or whatever.
[01:18] <prahal_> damagu, it is disabled by default with my current version of the elanteck driver for xorg (I had to build it from alioth /~dsalt-guest/eee
[01:18] <georgy_28> user__,  no, just sudo gedit /etc/modules end add ath_pci at the end
[01:18] <badawi> ok for my routing question, filling in Address: <IP_ADDRESS> Prefix: 24 Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> Metric: 0 seems to work
[01:18] <Lagos> This won't destroy any data. It'll just see how fast it can read from the drive.
[01:18] <user__> georgy_28: ah
[01:18] <user__> ok
[01:18] <dn_> gimme a second, it's copying some files onto an external drive atm
[01:19] <damagu> prahal_ didyou follow a howto for that...I wouldn't know how to do it without instruction
[01:19] <user__> georgy_28: now i can't use the terminal anymore, gotta open a new one
[01:19] <Mal3ko> i was going to post some question regarding pureftpd on ubuntu forum but im not sure whcih section to post to
[01:19] <Mal3ko> Networking & Wireless?
[01:19] <prahal_> damagu, no .. would have to write one
[01:20] <TGLL> I'm eager for a good Windows alternative. And I'm disgusted with SuSE with its lack of support.
[01:20] <uc50ic4more> Mal3ko: that'd be a good place to start, although asking here may save you the trouble :^)
[01:20] <prahal_> no problem in giving you the steps once I got rellik cam to work
[01:20] <topgun17> I figured out foew to get flash working
[01:20] <user__> georgy_28: added. How do i save?
[01:20] <Nick924em> SuSe? ewww didnt they like make nicey nicey with Microsoft awhile back?
[01:20] <Lagos> Actually, your drive speed isn't going to be the bottleneck. It's that shred uses /dev/urandom.
[01:21] <[e]Lement> Oops, wrong button...
[01:21] <[e]Lement> lolol
[01:21] <Lagos> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null bs=1024 count=24M for me gets a speed of around 6 MB/s.
[01:21] <mker> Is it easier to decrypt something if the password used for the private key is weak or does it just mean it's easier to 'guess' the password when the private key has already been taken?
[01:21] <Ninina> So my desktop changed it's icons to gnome default, but I would like a different set, but when I try to change the theme under system->preferences->apperance nothing happens, I'm using 8.10
[01:21] <georgy_28> user : are you in gedit
[01:22] <uc50ic4more> @mker: just easier to guess, for the most part
[01:22] <rellik> prahal_, I appreciate you helping with this....    did you see my dmesg output?  nothing seems out of the ordinary about it to me, but I don't see which driver it is trying to use
[01:22] <user__> georgy_28 stupid question. i was in the wrong window, hahahaah
[01:22] <Mal3ko> uc50ic4more: hmm ok
[01:22] <user__> georgy_28 i saved it. so now, it's all done?
[01:22] <mker> uc50ic4more, actually now that I think about it it's obvious considering you can change the password, thanks though :)
[01:23] <uc50ic4more> @mal3ko: well, depending on the complexity of your question, of course
[01:23] <paulo_> #ubuntu-es
[01:23] <Mal3ko> i have few things that i don't understand with pure-ftpd...1. how do i change the port?
[01:23] <prahal_> rellik, looks fine and the camera is activated upon insertion :) first step ok . now is xawtv
[01:24] <user__> georgy_28 my question was stupid not yours, heheh, because i was in the wrong window. now i added it and saved it
[01:24] <georgy_28> user__, yes, but when there is a kernel update, you have to go to the madwifi repository, and do sudo make and sudo make again, to compile the driver for the new kernel and reboot.
[01:24] <uc50ic4more> @Mal3ko: i do not recall offhand where the pureftpd .conf file is, but it'd probably be set in there.. alternatively, you could investigate a GUI for pureftpd
[01:24] <Mal3ko> and one more pureftpd is set to runa as service..and how do i find out the cmd startline used to run the pureftpd service?
[01:25] <rellik> prahal_, I have tried 'xawtv -device /dev/video0' ..  but it's gives errors: http://pastie.org/331487
[01:25] <Mal3ko> uc50ic4more: im using ubuntu server here so no gui..everything has be done in cmd
[01:25] <user__> georgy_28 uy, the site you gave me?  i bookmarked it, and then all the commands just like now?  ok. I copied them all to a txt file
[01:25] <prahal_> rellik, does xawtv shows something ?
[01:25] <rellik> nope, just black with "???" as the title
[01:25] <user__> georgy_28 Dank U / Merci beaucoup!
[01:25] <badawi> how is the -server kernel different from the -generic kernel?
[01:25] <prahal_> rellik, ah it is xawtv -c /dev/video0
[01:26] <dn_> Lagos: 65MB/s
[01:26] <prahal_> rellik, oh sorry --device works too
[01:26] <rellik> prahal_, same errors with -c
[01:26] <uc50ic4more> @Mal3ko: honestly, then, you might be best served making a coffee and spending some time here: http://www.pureftpd.org/project/pure-ftpd/doc
[01:26] <Lagos> So are you just deleting one file or the entire drive? And is this data you really don't want, like, the FBI seeing?
[01:27] <georgy_28> user__,  don't need to download, just go to the repository in /usr/local and then sudo make and sudo make install .now reboot to see everything work well
[01:27] <user__> georgy_28 I owe you a lot of thanks!!!!
[01:27] <dn_> i wanna delete the whole drive
[01:27] <user__> will reboot
[01:27] <georgy_28> user__, : keine ursache !!
[01:27] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[01:28] <uc50ic4more> @Mal3ko: this URL might help as well -- http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19818.html
[01:28] <danthelemon> does anybody know a wirelesscard that will work well with ubuntu
[01:28] <aguchoB> its the flickering problem still in intrepid ibex???
[01:28] <Maizcul> my card is working fine
[01:28] <dn_> i'm in the uk so the fbi probably wouldn't be that interested :P
[01:28] <uc50ic4more> @danthelemon: are you talking desktop or laptop?
[01:29] <rlt> badawi: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/kernel
[01:29] <Nick924em> dn_, you'd be surprised
[01:29] <Maizcul> some random one i picked up cheap about 4 years ago :P
[01:29] <mouka> hi all
[01:29] <dn_> ha, i guess
[01:29] <mouka> anybody has some experience with vsftpd?
[01:29] <dn_> it's more for practice
[01:29] <uc50ic4more> @danthelemon: this page might be of some service to you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[01:29] <dn_> in case i want to delete a drive
[01:29] <danthelemon> thanks
[01:29] <dn_> a drive with a horrendous amount of warez on it perhaps :P
[01:29] <Tetracomm> I couldn't make Skype calls from I installed it in Ubuntu, it just rings and the other person won't receive my call, help?
[01:29] <Lagos> Alright, so here's the thing.
[01:29] <prahal_> well for me too though I believed it was an issue with my configuration (cheese and skype works well here)
[01:29] <Lagos>  /dev/urandom has abysmal sustained generation of random numbers.
[01:30] <Lagos> I'm seeing 6 MB/s on my box.
[01:30] <mker> Lagos, Please keep your question in *one* message. It makes it easier for us to read and increases your chances of getting an answer.
[01:30] <prahal_> I am trying to find a video grabber that does not use hal
[01:30] <dn_> is /dev/urandom what shred uses?
[01:30] <aguchoB> any one?
[01:31] <Lagos> By default, yes. ANd urandom is faster than random, as I recall. So if you wanted to overwrite your drive with random data and you had a urandom no faster than mine, one pass over the 160 GB drive would take... 7 hours?
[01:31]  * porter1 's hand isn't sealing and he doesn't want to make it worse... ugh!
[01:31] <uc50ic4more> @aguchoB: what flickering problem are you referring to?
[01:31] <gnutron> Lagos: it is supposed to do that. urandom
[01:31] <kopy07> Can someone help me with a webcamera propblem?
[01:31] <Lagos> 25 passes (which is what shred uses) would take 25 times that, so you'd be running for about a week.
[01:31] <mouka> anybody has ever used vsftpd?
[01:31] <aguchoB> ati drivers with hardy when you use.. screen savers or compiz
[01:31] <mker> kopy07, just ask what you want to know and maybe someone can.
[01:32] <mouka> I just need to ask a few questions
[01:32] <uc50ic4more> @mouka: yes, w/ FreeBSD a few years back
[01:32] <badawi> rlt: i installed the ubuntu desktop edition. but using apt-get i installed kvm and xen, and that installed -server kernel for me, i'm not planning on using virtualization all the time but is it ok to stick to booting -server kernel anyway and dump -generic for my day to day use?
[01:32] <mker> mouka, just ask what you want to know and maybe someone can help you
[01:32] <Lagos> Now this is an unpopular opinion amongst people who want to show how smart they are security wise, but I really don't think that kind of treatment is necessary. Read The Great Zero Challenge: http://16systems.com/zero/
[01:32] <Shalak> hey guys
[01:32] <rww> Lagos: agreed. I just dd if=/dev/zero of=<drive>, myself
[01:33] <Lagos> In which no professional data recovery firm has taken up the challenge of showing that they can recover data from a drive which has been zeroed ONCE.
[01:33] <prahal_> I bet somewhat that xawtv got broken in latest packages of ubuntu .
[01:33] <Shalak> simple question how do i check which version of ubuntu I have?
[01:33] <Lagos> So my approach would be what rww says.
[01:33] <mouka> I have a fairly straight forward vsftpd.conf, and yet a user I have added to my system (local user) cannot log in
[01:33] <rww> badawi: Depends. Read the stuff on the link I gave you and decide for yourself.
[01:33] <rww> !version | Shalak
[01:33] <mouka> I have tried several things to make it work, but nothing seems to work
[01:33] <kopy07> I see the device in /dev but when I used mplayer to view the output I dont get an output, I do get an error but google was no use.  When I use VLC to play it i jsut get no putput but do get audio.  How can I fix this problem?
[01:33] <gnutron> Shalak: lsb_release -a in a terminal.
[01:33] <mouka> I am completely at a loss as to what's going on
[01:33] <king> hey
[01:33] <usser_> mouka, pastebin it?
[01:33] <Ninina> Gah I can't figure out what is wrong, every one of my config files says my Icon set should be Human, the icon set human exists, yet I can't change anything about my desktop apperance and it's stuck on basic gnome
[01:33] <Lagos> Do a "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<mydrive> bs=1M count=160K" a few times. I think I got the numbers right.
[01:33] <Shalak> ty
[01:33] <king> i m new at using irc
[01:33] <mouka> usser_: sure
[01:33] <king> any idea to get help ?
[01:33] <rww> badawi: the -server kernel isn't going to explode if you do desktop stuff, but it might not be best performance-wise.
[01:34] <Lagos> That will just write your drive over with zeros instead of random data but you won't be bottlenecked by reading from /dev/urandom.
[01:34] <Shalak> ok one more question
[01:34] <exodus_ms> king> do you need help with ubuntu or help using the irc channel
[01:34]  * industrialbs needs to take "bs" off of highlight if the talk is of dd
[01:34] <user__> georgy_28 it worked
[01:34] <Shalak> should i update my ubuntu into 8.10?
[01:34] <user__> georgy_28 Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!
[01:34] <georgy_28> user__,  : great, have fun know
[01:35] <georgy_28> user__,  : Viel spass
[01:35] <user__> georgy_28 Dank U!!
[01:35] <rww> Shalak: depends. Is there stuff in intrepid you ned? Are you having problems with hardy? Do you like shiny new things? It's a decision you have to make yourself :D
[01:35] <mouka> http://pastebin.com/d4a25871c
[01:35] <elad_> I've got an NVidia 8800 GTS, but still, Ubuntu's GUI feels choppy. Help?
[01:35] <mouka> here's the vsftpd.conf I am using
[01:35] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: i chose NOT to upgrade the machines i admin
[01:35] <mker> Shalak, that's up to you. 8.04 is still supported and will be for a long time. If there's something in 8.10 that you need go ahead and update, if not, don't. There is no should or should not :)
[01:35] <dekushrub> how do i check if i have a built in microphone?
[01:35] <MaT-dg> how do I integrate pidgin in ubuntu like this? http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/127534_ubuntu_pidgin_integration.jpg
[01:35] <elad_> Also - how do I completely disable the PC speaker?
[01:35] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: the new kernel played havok w/ some of the web cams I had set up clients with, but other than that i like 8.10 very much
[01:36] <Lagos> dd will overwrite the drive with zeroes. I wish there were an equally simple way to overwrite it with all 1s. You could write a program to do it, but I'm lazy. =:)
[01:36] <Lagos> Or like a /dev/ones =:)
[01:36] <georgy_28> user__, : don't forget to recompile by a kernel upgrade !! Otherwise it will not work again And I'm a french Belgian ;)
[01:36] <badawi> rww: yeah i'm not sure what that 250 Hz timer interrupt means hardware wise to my system, or how it's gonna affect it, but i guess i'll try running -server for a couple of days and see how it works out
[01:36] <rellik> prahal_, if it's xawtv that's broken, shouldn't cheese still work?
[01:37] <elad`> How do I completely disable the PC speaker?
[01:37] <Lagos> elad: Disconnect the cable.
[01:37] <dekushrub> hey i have a webcam on my laptop which works but i can't tell if i have a mic or if it is working, anyone want to help?
[01:37] <user__> georgy_28 merci beaucoup. oui je will recompile it if that means the make and make install we did now
[01:37] <elad`> Lagos, I don't want to. Can't I tell Ubuntu to stop using it?
[01:37] <georgy_28> user__,  : yes
[01:37] <Shalak> can I upgrade and reverse it without damaging my linux? maybe try out 8.10 if i dont like it switch it back, cause my linux does have issues like sometimes it crashes etc...plus i want too use wine and they usually support the latest version
[01:37] <uc50ic4more> @elad: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320921
[01:37] <Shalak> sry i talk a lot and by the way ty for your help
[01:38] <user__> georgy_28 bon, moi j'ire dormir maintenant. C'est deje tres tard.
[01:38] <user__> thanks again
[01:38] <user__> good night
[01:38] <prahal_> rellik, yes though it could be that hal does not report your device so cheese cannot find /dev/video0 .
[01:38] <kristian_> Intrepid Ibex rejects any changes I make to the xorg.conf file by going into low-graphics mode and asking me to reconfigure. Can I specify the driver to be used (mga) in any other way
[01:38] <georgy_28> user__,  me too, good night
[01:38] <user__> :-)
[01:38] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: i'd worry very much about all of the configurations of the programs being compatible going backwards
[01:38] <prahal_> so I am looking after a non hal based application so we could tell what s wrong
[01:39] <rellik> prahal_, ah, makes sense..  cheese doesn't seem to care that I have a /dev/video0..  is just says no devices
[01:39] <dekushrub> hey i have a webcam on my laptop which works but i can't tell if i have a mic or if it is working, anyone want to help?
[01:39] <Tetracomm> Any Skype and Ubuntu users in here?
[01:39] <dekushrub> tetraconn, yeah
[01:39] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: meaning, if a program's configuration file(s) take on a new format or contain options or configs that were not in the previous versions, going back to 8.04 may render those configs busted
[01:39] <rellik> dekushrub, Sound&Video > Sound Recorder
[01:40] <Shalak> so should i uninstall some software (games, etc) before installing 8.10
[01:40] <usser_> mouka, hang on 1 sec i'll pull out my conf
[01:40] <Ferrous> anyone a tech support for cirago? :P
[01:40] <Shalak> and is it easy too instal
[01:40] <Shalak> do i need special ju ju skills for it?
[01:41] <Maizcul> I need special antinoob sauce
[01:41] <andi__> Co-Angga-Manis
[01:41] <bastid_raZor> Shalak; you can not go back once upgraded.
[01:41] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: no, i am talking about *all* the programs.. truthfully, why not just use the live cd and see what you think?
[01:41] <gnutron> Shalak: disable effects would be wise prior to upgrade.
[01:42] <usser_> mouka, it doesnt work for any users? or just local?
[01:42] <Maizcul> Anyone want to help with my keyboard? x(
[01:42] <bmk789> where should my libflashplayer.so go? ive tried 4 places and firefox wont use any of them
[01:42] <Lagos> If you have a LiveCD, I'd boot into that first to make sure all your hardware works as expected (doubt you'll have a problem, Shalak, but it never hurts). Then I'd simply follow the advice and links on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading I don't anticipate you'll encounter much difficulty.
[01:43] <Shalak> ok so does my version of linux have a iso burner
[01:43] <Shalak> cause i am going too go for it
[01:43] <usser_> mouka, try to specify anon_root, it may be needed. or chroot_local_user=YES
[01:43] <Shalak> also how can i keep all my files (downloaded, photos etc)
[01:44] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: if you use the live cd, it does not touch anything on your hard drive
[01:44] <|GaiJin|> anyone using xbmc here??
[01:44] <anders> yes |GaiJin|
[01:44] <MaT-dg> bmk789: I have it in  /.mozilla/plugins
[01:44] <usser_> mouka, thats my file http://pastebin.com/m66f557a9
[01:44] <sachael> anyone have a good mass renaming program?
[01:44] <bastid_raZor> Shalak; brasero or k3b
[01:44] <bmk789> MaT-dg, thanks ill try that
[01:45] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: the live cd is mostly for demonstration and noodling around.. if and when you choose to *install* the upgrade, just make sure that you do NOT wipe the /home partition!
[01:45] <Maizcul> anyone know how to get laptop fn key working :/
[01:45] <tengulre> I have a text file like 'ddddFBBBBCDDDD' ,I want to get string BBBB , how to do?
[01:45] <Lagos> They've suggested two things, Shalak: 1) Booting from the LiveCD in order to test 8.10. 2) Upgrading through the regular apt-get mechanism (see this excellent guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades )
[01:45] <|GaiJin|> anders: i found a pack containing a bunch or live internet feeds, is there a place i can add them, without having to print them and adding them manually??
[01:45] <kristian_> Can anyone tell me how to enforce the use of the mga graphics driver in Intrepid?
[01:45] <sachael> tengulre, sed -i s/BBB//g filename i think
[01:45] <Shalak> since i have a second hardrive can i keep all files in there?
[01:45] <antoranz> Guys!
[01:45] <anders> |GaiJin|, i have no idea
[01:45] <Shalak> they shouldnt be deleted right?
[01:45] <antoranz> I'm trying to compile openldap from the sources at their site
[01:46] <antoranz> and I get this error:
[01:46] <Shalak> and yes iam going too try the live cd first
[01:46] <sachael> tengulre, or you meant to get the string from the file?
[01:46] <Shalak> i just want too prepare just in case
[01:46] <andi__> hi
[01:46] <eweb100> Can anyone point me to a guide that to CORRECTLY instal Itunes under wine..  The latest ubuntu 64 bit
[01:46] <badawi> tengulre: man tr
[01:46] <antoranz> getpeereid.c:66: error: storage size of ‘peercred’ isn’t known
[01:46] <antoranz> how can I solve it?
[01:46] <dn__> ah sorry Lagos, wireless dropped out on my laptop :/
[01:46] <Lagos> If you upgrade through apt-get, it will merely install more recent versions of your programs. It will not erase any files. If you install from the LiveCD, there will be an option not to format the drive.
[01:46] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: yes, you should probably back up any and all files that are important to you before any major operation
[01:46] <antoranz> I compiled it two days ago on hardy and had no problem
[01:47] <Lagos> But like uc says: It never hurts to back up your home directory just in case.
[01:47] <antoranz> but I'm on a intrepid box now
[01:47] <Lagos> No worries, dn. Did you see the link to the Great Zero Challenge?
[01:47] <eweb100> Can anyone point me to a guide that to CORRECTLY instal Itunes under wine..  The latest ubuntu 64 bit
[01:47] <Shalak> ty guys
[01:47] <Shalak> BIG help
[01:47] <Shalak> iam going too get the iso and try burning it
[01:48] <dn__> yea
[01:48] <dn__> interesting
[01:48] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: good luck!
[01:48] <outboard> i am having a problem , my install seems to have stalled on configering the usb , is there a way to get the installer to skip this and finish the install and then fix the problem once it is up and running ?
[01:48] <dn__> any idea what dban uses?
[01:49] <Maizcul> :( noone has ideas on laptop FN key?
[01:49] <Shalak> now lets talk about serious matters, what is the greatest pie?
[01:50] <Maizcul> Meat & Potatoe
[01:50] <Gnea> eweb100: you can't.
[01:50] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: sorry, what's the problem w/ your FN key?
[01:50] <Ferrous> the one without an 'e' :D
[01:50] <outboard> i am having a problem , my install seems to have stalled on configering the usb , is there a way to get the installer to skip this and finish the install and then fix the problem once it is up and running ?
[01:50] <Maizcul> It doesn't work >.<
[01:50] <Shalak> mmmmm meat
[01:50] <Ferrous> pi? ._.
[01:50] <uc50ic4more> @maizcul: that's definitely a problem! what is the model of laptop we're talking about?
[01:50] <Maizcul> It's got icons for example fn+F2 should mute/unmute but it does nothing
[01:51] <Shalak> 2.3 mb download speed 0.0 god loves me
[01:51] <Maizcul> Sony Vaio PCG-K195BP
[01:51] <Maizcul> 2004 model
[01:51] <Shalak> per second
[01:51] <DarkKnight> hey wen i run this coomand sh 2.8.10.run    i get a message saying  that it can't open the file
[01:51] <Guest52313> hello, i'd like to know how can i start automatic sshd when i turn on the computer
[01:51] <DarkKnight> hey wen i run this coomand sh 2.8.10.run    i get a message saying  that it can't open the file    helpme to run it
[01:51] <ASrock> what program should i use for opening .rar files that are in seperate files like name.r00, name.r01, name.r02...and so on
[01:51] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: i am thinking we're just going to either need to perhaps reconfigure the xorg server -- do you know what i mean?
[01:52] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: ie, have you ever run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before? and what ubuntu are you using? 8.04? 8.10?
[01:52] <Maizcul> 8.10 afaik, installed about 2 hours ago
[01:52] <Maizcul> fairly noob to linux :P
[01:52] <DarkKnight> hey wen i run this coomand sh 2.8.10.run    i get a message saying  that it can't open the file    help me to run it
[01:53] <prahal_> rellik, instal vlc and start it then Ctrl + C
[01:53] <uc50ic4more> @Guest52313: you mean you want to start a ssh server on login? i am pretty sure that you can just install the ssh server and it'll start as a daemon
[01:53] <agustin> i hate intrepid
[01:53] <agustin> i cant install it
[01:53] <tengulre>  I want got the string in startpattern and endpattern in txt file?
[01:53] <Zhane> how come my intrepid cant autologin ?
[01:53] <Maizcul> It can't be too hard, Can it?
[01:53] <outboard> i am having a problem , my install seems to have stalled on configering the usb , is there a way to get the installer to skip this and finish the install and then fix the problem once it is up and running ?
[01:53] <agustin> gooodd whyy meee
[01:53] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239972
[01:54] <agustin> i want to make a fresh install of intrepid from the cd but i cant god dm...
[01:54] <crapsterx> try unplugging the usb device
[01:54] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: sorry, laptops can be tricky sometimes, and you may have to get your hands a little dirty getting this to work
[01:54] <outboard> there are none plugged in
[01:55] <agustin> outboard you are tyings intrepid?
[01:55] <Tetracomm> Is there a channel for Ubuntu or Linux for embedded systems?
[01:55] <outboard> yes
[01:55] <Gnea> agustin: intrepid is easy. what's wrong?
[01:55] <outboard> @ Gnea : if this is easy i give up
[01:55] <Zhane> how do i prevent intrepid's wireless from auto-enabling at startup?
[01:56] <agustin> Gnea .. that i cant install it
[01:56] <Maveas> Hmm, how do I set up a MX record?
[01:56] <Gnea> outboard: hrm, that's odd... how many usb devices do you have plugged in?
[01:56] <agustin> i can instal hardy whitout any problem but when i want to install intrepid it stucj and send me busy box
[01:56] <kristian_> I hate what they've done to xorg.conf in Intrepid...
[01:56] <outboard> none
[01:56] <Maveas> I'm usung a free domain at dyndns - and I really don't understand the MX record function
[01:56] <topgun17> Is it posible to installlilo using synaptic package manager and have it work?
[01:56] <outboard> which is why when it probs them they do not respond
[01:57] <topgun17> Is it posible to installlilo using synaptic package manager and have  a bootable system?
[01:57] <Gnea> agustin: well, without anymore detail than that, it's going to be very difficult to help you
[01:57] <Tetracomm> outboard: Which one?
[01:57] <Maizcul> attempting to follow that thread atm, will let you know how it turns out
[01:57] <uc50ic4more> @agustin: if you cannot install intrepid, and hardy is working, i'd stick with hardy! :)
[01:57] <Akeru_Forsamee> How do I remove fglrx drivers? They aren't helping with anything and I'd like to revert to whatever was used by default. I'm using 8.04
[01:57] <Gnea> outboard: hrm, you could try re-routing the way the IRQ's are handled.. that usually fixes it for me... when you boot the cd up, press F6 and add this to the kernel line: pci=routeirq
[01:58] <agustin> im trying to install intrepid upgrading hardy
[01:58] <agustin> i dont know if this is right or got any problem
[01:58] <rellik> prahal_, in vlc I tried /dev/video0 and I get the error "[00000469] v4l2 demux error: cannot get video capabilities (Unknown error 515)"
[01:58] <prahal_> rellik, give a shot with v4l instead of v4l2
[01:58] <outboard> i am 3/4 the way through an install , so quit out of it and give up ?
[01:59] <prahal_> I don't know if qc-usb quickam driver is yet ported to v4l2
[01:59] <sachael> anyone have a good mass renaming program?
[01:59] <Gnea> outboard: what's really strange is that, when i upgraded from hardy to intrepid on a system last week, the system worked better *without* the pci=routeirq... it was a bit odd, so i figure the kernel people had something to do with that one... things are changin'
[01:59] <gravemind> can someone help me with a folder permissions puzzle? I want to make a drop box folder in ~/public, similar to the one that comes default in Mac OS X. How can I set the permissions so that other users can write files but not access them?
[01:59] <Tetracomm> outboard?
[01:59] <LoveGuru> Hello, somehow i can't ssh to my server.  im using VMware and Ubuntu as Guest OS, I just Reset my Router and after that eth0 just disappeard and eth1 appear there, i can't figure out what i did wrong :< before everything works fine. but now nothing works. Please can Someone Point me to the Correct direction im using NAT. and I checked my port forwarinding and its look fine.. but when i try to ssh to my server it gave me error refused :<
[01:59] <Gnea> outboard: well, i'd let it finish - if it doesn't error out this time, it'd be a waste
[01:59] <prahal_> sachael, "rename"
[01:59] <dberry> anyone using banshee with a rio karma?
[02:00] <sachael> prahal_, what about a gui one? :)
[02:00] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: right click on the folder, select Permissions; you're after the "Others"
[02:00] <prahal_> ah eclipse :))
[02:00] <outboard> i am just trying to install a dual boot so that i can migrate from microsux , but i have everything on mxp so am not about to trow it all away
[02:00] <jason_> poke crimsun
[02:00] <outboard> at this rate it would just be esier to pay the 5 grand to upgrade all my xp crap
[02:01] <rellik> prahal_, [00000481] v4l demux error: cannot grab :(
[02:01] <techqbert> My CIFS share, when I ls, not travel to by nautilus, ls outputs likek 8 files for each only one file
[02:01] <gravemind> uc50ic4more: thanks -- however there seems to be "create and delete files" as an option. I don't want them to be able to delete files, only create
[02:01] <DBO> erm, sorry, i meant to ping you from this nick crimsun
[02:02] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: a ha - well, you could chmod the directory.. are you familiar w/ the chmod and chown commands?
[02:02] <prahal_> rellik, argh best option would be to ask on qc-usb mailing list for help and if bug there is , a fix
[02:02] <gravemind> uc50ic4more: chmod is permissions, chown is ownership, but I'm not sure how do to the user:group things
[02:03] <rellik> prahal_, :( damn...  thanks for trying so hard, though :)  I learned a few new commands out of it at least :)
[02:03] <storrgie> is there a place to get assistance with verlihub?
[02:03] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: take a quick perusal of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod
[02:03] <outboard> from a bash prompt can i force the installer to skip this step and continue ?
[02:03]  * Matthew|Laptop is back (gone 02:27:27)
[02:03]  * Pelo is bored
[02:03] <gravemind> uc50ic4more: thankjs
[02:04] <salmon> does anyone know where i can find font packages for gimp image editor??
[02:04] <outboard> from a bash prompt can i force the installer to skip this step and continue ?
[02:04] <Pelo> salmon, gimp uses the fonts available on your hdd,  I can find you a likt for about 6000 fonts if you want it
[02:05] <lordrath> hey whats up everyone
[02:05] <Lagos> Gravemind, if a user has Write permission on a directory they can add files to it. But if they don't have the eXecute bit set on it, they shouldn't be able to list files inside or access their inodes.
[02:05] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: so to have the directory readable and writeable by it's owner (you, presumably) and writeable but NOT readable by other, i am pretty sure you'd chmod /your/directory rwxrwx-wx
[02:05] <prahal_> rellik, see Contact Us on http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/  . They need specific inputs to be able to help  I hope they will reach upstream soon (with a new shiny v4l2 version of the driver) so you ll have it working out of the box on next kernel upgrade
[02:05] <salmon> pelo: that would be most excellent
[02:05] <Pelo> salmon, hold on I'll look fo rthe link
[02:05] <lordrath> is anyone having problems with alsa and wine?
[02:05] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: crap! make that last "x" ought to be a "-"
[02:06] <salmon> pelo: thank you so much
[02:06] <sachael> argh, the thunar bulk rename is so good, but I want to drag thunar just for it :(
[02:06] <gravemind> Lagos, uc50ic4more: thanks, I'm trying it
[02:06] <sachael> don't want*
[02:06] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: i am obviously paying too much attention to the football game, as i reversed the directory and flags in the command.. sorry!
[02:06] <Pelo> !theme
[02:07] <Akeru_Forsamee> We have 1337 people in this room!
[02:07] <outboard> from a bash prompt can i force the installer to skip this step and continue ?
[02:07] <potwak> hello everyone
[02:07] <gravemind> uc50ic4more: so chmod /my/directory rwxrwx-w- so they can write but not read or execute
[02:07] <Lagos> Akeru: Lock the doors! No one gets in or out!
[02:07] <rellik> prahal_, thanks I'll check it out
[02:07] <potwak> how to install ubuntu in my flash drive?
[02:07] <rellik> prahal_, any suggestions on a cheap webcam that will work out of the box?
[02:07] <Maveas> How does the MX record work? I've installed debian on a VM and using external network so the VM got an internal IP in the same range as my HOST - but how do the mail server installation know that this server is the one recording to the MX record? :S
[02:07] <Pelo> !install | potwak
[02:08] <topgun17> How does one boot an existing system using lilo
[02:08] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: correct, but again i reversed the flags and the folder path... use chmod rwxrwx-w- /path/to/the/folder
[02:08] <Pelo> salmon, http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/6%2C760+Fonts?content=9883
[02:08] <Akeru_Forsamee> Potwak: google Pendrive Linux, they shoudl have some tuts for you
[02:08] <lordrath> Has anyone else out here tried Ubuntu 8.10 yet?
[02:08] <Pelo> lordrath, most of us are on ibex yes
[02:08] <lordrath> sweet
[02:08] <prahal_> sachael, apt-cache search rename -> krename, gwenrename, pyrenamer , purrr
[02:09] <Pelo> topgun17, might want to ask in #lilo
[02:09] <salmon> pelo: thank you again
[02:09] <Pelo> salmon, did you see how many fonts are in that package ? you'll be cursing me in a few days
[02:09] <potwak> holyshit, thanks for the help.
[02:09] <Akeru_Forsamee> potwak: np
[02:10] <storrgie> with ubuntu server, when you install a new program (verlihub) do you have to open a port or configure a firewall?
[02:10] <feross> hey guys, anyone know if it's possible to use a /dev/raw1394 as a webcam for Skype? I've googled it but the forums posts are from jan/feb 2008. If I start Kino I can see the webcam output fine but Skype says no devices found
[02:10] <sidXIII> anyone good with gimp?
[02:10] <outboard> thanks for all the help people
[02:10] <potwak> anyway, is there a list of utilities that i can install from cd? for example, build-essential.
[02:10] <uc50ic4more> @storrgie; have you done anything w/ iptables yet? do you have an external firewall? does the program *require* that any ports be open specifically?
[02:10] <JulioNeto> hello guys
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> topgun17 You need to find the #lilo room, ubuntu uses and supports grub
[02:11] <outboard> thanks for all the help people
[02:11] <Pelo> feross, have you tried just turning  /dev/video0 into a simlink fo rthat /dev/raw... thing ?
[02:11] <outboard> from a bash prompt can i force the installer to skip this step and continue ?
[02:11] <Ahadiel> sidXIII, #gimp
[02:11] <hou5ton> I think i'll dual boot Ubuntu on this vista laptop .... how many GB does Ubuntu need to have plenty of room to work, applications, etc.?
[02:11] <lordrath> I have not seen too many differences between Hardy and Ibex, aside from better USB support and the like, what are the other changes that I should be aware of?
[02:11] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: Ubuntu will install lilo if you try to install it on a filesystem that grub doesn't support.
[02:11] <storrgie> uc50ic4more: nothing with iptables yet (those are the hosts files right?) the machine is local to me.... and i dont know if verlihub requires it.... but i know its listening on 4111
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> outboard perhaps if you defined "This Step"
[02:11] <feross> Pelo: no haven't tried that, brb
[02:11] <Pelo> hou5ton, you can do it with 5 gig easily,   but I recommend at least 10
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici yes it will work with it..
[02:12] <JulioNeto> I need install Flash Player 10 on Ubuntu, but when I install it nothing happen! Firefox doesn't recognize the plugin. Cna somebody give me some help?
[02:12] <sidXIII> Ahadiel i was in there but no one ever talks
[02:12] <Akeru_Forsamee> hou5ton: Depends on how many apps you want. A usual  Ubuntu install takes less than 1gb, and I assume the rest would just depend on how much room you want to work with
[02:12] <uc50ic4more> @storrgie: ok, i am pretty sure you're fine as long as you are not behind a router... if you are behind a router, simply forward port 4111 to the IP of your machine
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici he will still find better help for lilo in a room for lilo
[02:12] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: Indeed
[02:12] <outboard> @lordrath i have a problem with it hanging while trying to prob usb devices that don't exist , while installing  , so god knows how bad the usb support was before
[02:12] <storrgie> uc50ic4more: i know how to take care of the router... i just dont even know if verlihub is running right now.. hmmm but i configured it for 4111
[02:13] <Pelo> JulioNeto, unpack the archive,  do a search for flash on your hdd and replace the files on your hdd with the ones from the archive
[02:13] <hou5ton> Pelo and Akeru:  Thanks ... So .. 20 GB should be plenty for the install and lots of apps.???
[02:13] <salmon> pelo: no i don't think i will, but only time will tell ha ha... i love it
[02:13] <bazhang> hou5ton, yep
[02:13] <Akeru_Forsamee> hou5ton: That's plenty, yes.
[02:13] <Pelo> hou5ton, you'll be using about 3 gig for the install , the rest youwill be using for your/home
[02:13] <outboard> and no one here seems to know any way to help me
[02:13] <topgun17> Anytotourials on installing lilo on a exsisting ubuntu instalation?
[02:13] <prahal_> rellik, no sorry . >300 new webcams were added in 2.6.28 but ubuntu will stay at 2.6.27 for a while . And by cheap I have a 1€ webcam that does . Maybe you have clauses that you can returns products if less than 7 days after buying in your country too.
[02:13] <sidXIII> is anyone here good with  GIMP   no one answers in #gimp ill make a new room for us to chat in so we dont spam this one
[02:13] <hou5ton> Also ... I plan to leave most of the data on the NTFS Vista partition ... is that a problem?
[02:14] <topgun17> #lilo is a dead channel
[02:14] <potwak> is there a list of utilities that i can install from cd? for example, build-essential.
[02:14] <prahal_> rellik, those that are supported  by the gspca or uvc project should be safe and long term support as they are included in 2.6.28
[02:14] <rellik> prahal_, I bought this webcam a few years ago, so I'd say it's non returnable :)
[02:14] <Pelo> topgun17, google then,  there aren't that many ppl in here who use lilo so we know less then you do at this point
[02:15] <rellik> prahal_, how can I tell if a webcam is uvc ?
[02:15] <Nick924em> potwak, i think in synaptic there's categories, for utilities, games, etc.
[02:15] <exodus_ms> hous5ton, that wont be a problem, if you dual boot you can even set up your ubuntu 'partition' to access your NTFS files
[02:15] <Pelo> prahal_, rellik last I heard  gspca was broken in ibex
[02:15] <Mordocai> topgun17: http://www.google.com/search?q=installing+lilo+with+ubuntu&as_rights=
[02:15] <hou5ton> exodus_ms: ok .. thanks ... I'm gonna do it.
[02:15] <prahal_> rellik, and it will probably work with some help from the developpers (it is recognized .. and well v4l2 driver are easier to maintain so as soon as they have upgraded to v4l2 things should improve
[02:16] <Akeru_Forsamee> hou5ton: Good luck :)
[02:16] <lordrath> Hey Pelo, are you familiar with wine and alsa?
[02:16] <potwak> Nick924em: is there a list of that?
[02:16] <Pelo> lordrath, with wine a bit , with alsa not realy
[02:16] <Akeru_Forsamee> How do I remove fglrx drivers? They aren't helping with anything and I'd like to revert to whatever was used by default. I'm using 8.04
[02:16] <lordrath> ok thanks
[02:16] <Nick924em> potwak, i think its under system >administration > Synaptic package manager
[02:17] <Nick924em> im on Xubuntu so i donno the exact menu for it sorry
[02:17] <Pelo> Akeru_Forsamee, how did you instll them ?
[02:17] <exodus_ms> hou5ton, just remember, you are using a new OS, things are different with ubuntu and you might need to 're-learn' some things you have come used to in windoze
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Akeru_Forsamee did you install then with apt-get or possibly synaptic or manually
[02:17] <mankash> please help me with compiling
[02:17] <potwak> Nick924em: ok. thanks for that info. :)
[02:17] <Nick924em> anytime
[02:17] <Pelo> mankash, what's the issue ?
[02:17] <feross> Pelo: na -- ran  sudo ln -s /dev/raw1394 /dev/video0  and then tried it but nothing came up
[02:17] <prahal_> rellik, well this leaves us wit uvc only if gspca is not working in ibex (could well be as the devs worked a lot to integrate it into 2.6.28 where it works well. They may have left 2.6.27 beind)
[02:18] <sidXIII> is anyone here good with  GIMP image slicing for URLs... #gimp is silent
[02:18] <mankash> I ma trying to compile modules
[02:18] <Maizcul> it would seem im failing at following the guide.
[02:18] <Pelo> feross, it was just a thought,  does it work with other apps ? like cheese ?
[02:18] <rellik> prahal_, so any newer webcam will be uvc?  is that right?
[02:18] <Akeru_Forsamee> Jack_Sparrow: I think using apt-get, but I'll need to check the guide I used oto be sure
[02:18] <mankash> actually I am building the kernel with modules
[02:18] <feross> Pelo: yeah, worth a shot :)
[02:18] <Pici> sidXIII: gimp's official channels are on irc.gimp.net , you may want to try there.
[02:18] <mankash> it is giving some erro rin modpost unkown symbol
[02:18] <rchase> where can I get darkroom theme for older versions of ubuntu?
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Akeru_Forsamee if you used apt-get and did not add repos to your sources you can just synaptic or apt-get them out
[02:19] <prahal_> rellik, http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[02:19] <Pelo> mankash, better ask in ##linux then
[02:19] <prahal_> no
[02:19] <mankash> ok thx
[02:19] <prahal_> or so I am not aware of this fact
[02:19] <lordrath> rchase: check www.gnome-look.org  if it doesn't have it then I dont know what to tell you
[02:19] <rchase> lordrath: thx, just came from there
[02:20] <JulioNeto> Pelo, It doesn't work
[02:20] <Akeru_Forsamee> Jack_Sparrow: k, I'll try that. Thanks
[02:20] <lordrath> rchase: what version are you running on?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:20] <ninjabob7> can anybody help me with my wireless? i just reinstalled and now orinoco_pci is nonexistent and hostap_pci doesn't work
[02:20] <Pelo> JulioNeto, what doesn'T work ?
[02:20]  * Pelo lost track
[02:20] <rchase> hardy
[02:21] <JulioNeto> Pelo, the plugin
[02:21] <JulioNeto> Firefox doesn't recognize it :/
[02:21] <Shalak> hey sry me again, how would i check if i have a 64 bit pc? cause my pc cover has the AMD 64 on it athlon, but i have never installed 64 bit linux?
[02:21] <Pelo> hold on
[02:21] <ravalox> If you're using KDE, what's the best widget engine out there?
[02:21] <ravalox> Plasma looks great but there aren't that many widgets for it.
[02:21] <ninjabob7> Shalak: if you don't have 64-bit linux, your machine is running as 32-bits
[02:22] <Pelo> JulioNeto, well I'm running flashplayer 10 on mine and it works fine , let me check a couple of things
[02:22] <Maizcul> oh deary me
[02:22] <Maizcul> i'm not having much luck with this
[02:22] <ninjabob7> Shalak: and it's probably not worth the trouble to install 64-bit OS... nothing but problems
[02:22] <mroc> does kopete support video for google talk (jabber) accounts?
[02:22] <Shalak> cool
[02:22] <Shalak> ty
[02:22] <AnythingJe> Hey guys, I'm looking for an drawing program that will let me draw like macromedia flash editor in windows... you know, like snapping to shapes and clicking color regions to create vector like art.
[02:22] <Shalak> gonna go try out 8.10
[02:23] <Pelo> JulioNeto, start by un-installing  flash-nonfree-plugin from synaptic,  after that install flash 10 from the file downloaded from sun
[02:23] <prahal_> AnythingJe, inkscape
[02:23] <ninjabob7> can anybody help with prism 2.5 wireless? for some reason there is no orinoco_pci driver installed
[02:23] <Maizcul> still here uc50ic4more?
[02:23] <AnythingJe> prahal_: Thanks, I'll give that a try
[02:23] <ninjabob7> actually just what package has orinoco_pci?
[02:24] <Maizcul> guess not, hmm thats no good.
[02:24] <exodus_ms> Maizxul, what is the problem?
[02:25] <lordrath> Pelo: are you using i386 or 64 bit???
[02:25] <Akeru_Forsamee> Jack_Sparrow: It won't let me remove it using apt-get and I don't know which of the numerous packages related to fglrx to remove in Synaptic
[02:25] <mroc> does kopete support video for google talk (jabber) accounts?  or alternatively, is there a way to get video and google talk accounts working?
[02:25] <exodus_ms> Maizcul, what is the problem?
[02:25] <Pelo> lordrath, i386, there is no flash yet for 64 bit , that might be the problem
[02:25] <exodus_ms> --purge
[02:25] <wisd0m> hello, can someone help me send my GPG/OpenPGP Key to the server
[02:25] <lordrath> Pelo: I have 64 bit and I installed Flash 10 with no problems
[02:26] <wisd0m> my flash work 8.10 x64
[02:26] <Pelo> lordrath, then tell JulioNeto how to do it
[02:26] <Maizcul> I could use a little help following a guide if someone wants to help a noob :(
[02:26] <Pelo> Maizcul, a guide on what ?
[02:26] <ninjabob7> argh, why are my drivers missing on a fresh install?????
[02:26] <lordrath> stand by
[02:26] <Maizcul> http://users.skynet.be/thomasvst/linux-on-laptop/
[02:26] <sachael> i need a super simple app to track daily/weekly/monthly expenses - like "today i bought that and that for this much"?
[02:26] <Maizcul> fn keys
[02:26] <binMonkey> how do i know if i'm using sdl or gtk?  i'm wondering if i can't speed up my video card.
[02:27] <exodus_ms> gnucash
[02:27] <ninjabob7> and why can't I find any packages???
[02:27] <Pelo> Maizcul, I can'T help  I recommend you ask specifig questions on what you have problems with , you're more likely to get answers
[02:27] <exodus_ms> or download a 'calc' template
[02:27] <Pelo> !packages | ninjabob7
[02:28] <ninjabob7> yes, i've tried that but it says the drivers should already be there...
[02:28] <Maizcul> i'm trying to get my fn key on my laptop to work, I was pointed to that page. i'm trying to follow what it says but ran into a problem or two
[02:28] <exodus_ms> sachael> gnucash is good, or you could download a openoffice 'calc' template
[02:28] <Akeru_Forsamee> I need help removing fglrx drivers. It won't let me remove them using apt-get remove, and I don't know which of the numerous packages related to fglrx to remove in synaptic
[02:28] <feddozz> hello evrybody!! please excuse me but it's a question not related. HOW CAN I GET A LIST OF AVAILABLE CHANNELS?
[02:28] <ninjabob7> hostap_pci is there but doesn't work. orinoco_pci (which works in 8.10) isn't there
[02:28] <sachael> exodus_ms, thanks I'm checking out gnucash right now, but Im
[02:29] <Simeon_H> if I compile and install a new version of glibc will it screw everything up?
[02:29] <sachael> still afraid it will be too much (sorry for line break)
[02:29] <exodus_ms> -purge
[02:29] <Maizcul> $ sudo vi /etc/modules
[02:29] <prahal_> Akeru_Forsamee, try aptitude or synaptic
[02:29] <sloopy> feddozz, /list
[02:29] <Pelo> feddozz, /list but I'm notsure it's allowed on this network
[02:29] <Maizcul> im totally confused as to what i'm meant to do at that point
[02:29] <{alejandro}> hmmm
[02:29] <prahal_> feddozz, it depends on your irc client
[02:29] <exodus_ms> server->list of channels
[02:29]  * Pelo is gonna go before his bad typing causes injuries
[02:29] <Pelo> g'night folks
[02:29] <{alejandro}> It seems when I restarted today my sound has vanished - I get the speaker with the x no matter how i play with my settings
[02:29] <ninjabob7> actually orinoco is there but orinoco_pci isn't... which is strange as both are there in older and newer versions
[02:29] <ninjabob7> of ubuntu, that is
[02:29] <{alejandro}> wait
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> wisd0m: gpg --send-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <keyid>
[02:30] <feddozz> to all /list worked thank you very much!! bye!!!
[02:30] <{alejandro}> lol nvm got it
[02:30] <LoveGuru> Hello, somehow i can't ssh to my server.  im using VMware and Ubuntu as Guest OS, I just Reset my Router and after that eth0 just disappeard and eth1 appear there, i can't figure out what i did wrong :< before everything works fine. but now nothing works. Please can Someone Point me to the Correct direction im using NAT. and I checked my port forwarinding and its look fine.. but when i try to ssh to my server it gave me error refused :<
[02:30] <elad`> What should I use for eMule?
[02:30] <bazhang> !p2p > elad`
[02:30] <bzerk1> gday
[02:31] <exodus_ms> sachael> try some of the templates, I use a few and they work great. you could also always create a custom spreadsheet to suit your needs:)
[02:31] <Maizcul> All i see is "# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load .... sbp2"
[02:31] <Maizcul> I don't get what to do next :S
[02:33] <Maizcul> :(
[02:33] <Simeon_H> cmon guys this could end badly
[02:33] <barcode> does anyone know where i can find a good video converter?
[02:33] <bazhang> ffmpeg barcode
[02:34] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> what is the error message?
[02:34] <exodus_ms> avidemux
[02:34] <coltrem66> non si dorme qui :-)
[02:34] <becker`> Hey, I've just added a new user and removed it. Now I do login from my old user but all the files and stuff seem like they have gone. it seems like I'm in a new user though it says my old username. What shall I do?
[02:34] <bazhang> !it
[02:35] <Maizcul> i'm stumped :(
[02:36] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: just Connection Refused .. When i try to ssh to my server
[02:36] <agustin> i HATE INTREPID!!
[02:36] <Simeon_H> WELL IT HATES YOU
[02:37] <prahal_> barcode, winff . You can grab it from debian packages.debian.org as soon as it is reachable again
[02:37] <prahal_> please don't scream in a channel It hurts and helps nobody
[02:37] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> you are trying to ssh from ubuntu 'guest' to you host?
[02:38] <becker`> Hey, I've just added a new user and removed it. Now I do login from my old user but all the files and stuff seem like they have gone. it seems like I'm in a new user though it says my old username. What shall I do?
[02:38] <barcode> the thing im doing is streaming my movies to my ps3 but the format is .flv or something like that and i need .mpg
[02:38] <D-MAN> what would the command be to completely removwe wine?
[02:38] <bazhang> agustin, try the alternate cd
[02:38] <exodus_ms> mencoder
[02:38] <mooglinux> barcode, try converting with avidemux
[02:38] <exodus_ms> !mencoder
[02:38] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i m trying to ssh from host OS which is windows 2000 to my Ubuntu Guest.
[02:38] <lordrath> D-Man did you compile it or did you use  apt-get to install it?
[02:39] <ninjabob7> why would a single network card show up twice (as wifi0 and wlan0)? in the past, before I reinstalled, it showed up as eth1 and wifi0 and worked. now it's wifi0 and wlan0 and doesn't work.
[02:39] <ninjabob7> same card, same ubuntu version, i think same driver...
[02:39] <prahal_> barcode, hum vlc is able to transcode and stream . But I cannot tell if it support flv . While mplayer/mencoder (used by winff) does
[02:39] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> have to ask, do you have your guest running and what virtualization software are you using
[02:39] <D-MAN> Lordrath just want to completely remove it from my system
[02:40] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: yes my guest is running i m using VMware Workstation
[02:40] <hikenboot> hello everyone ever since moving from debian to ubuntu my abit nf7-s2g has had very slow ethernet connection speed.. i am told its the via 6122 chipset  lsmod tells me that the via_velocity card module is loaded
[02:40] <mooglinux> D-MAN try sudo apt-get autoremove wine
[02:40] <D-MAN> Lordrath compile i believe
[02:40] <hikenboot> is their an alternative driver?
[02:40] <christophe> Anyone here know of a good java channel?
[02:41] <D-MAN> lord rath thnks got it
[02:41] <ravalox> If you're using KDE, what's the best widget engine out there?
[02:41] <ravalox> Plasma looks great but there aren't that many widgets for it.
[02:42] <lordrath> hmmm
[02:42] <lordrath> i would have to look into it  give me a minute im helping someone else at the moment
[02:42] <D-MAN> lordrath did that delete all user settings too?
[02:42] <mooglinux> i havent tried KDE 4.1 or later yet. how is it shaping up?
[02:42] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> are you using samba, or putty
[02:42] <jrib> when I try to connect to google talk through empathy, the gnome foot moves for a while and then I receive "Network Error" in the gui.  I've disabled my firewall in case that was the reason but it has had no effect.  Logs/output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80626/
[02:42] <ravalox> It looks wonderful
[02:43] <lordrath> it should have
[02:43] <ravalox> There just aren't that many widgets for plasma available yet.
[02:43] <ravalox> But it's plenty fast and it looks great.
[02:43] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> and, can you ping your guest from your host?
[02:43] <Mal3ko> what does this cmd actually do? /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd stop <-- stopping pure-ftpd service or autostart?
[02:43] <Mal3ko> init.d
[02:43] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i m using putty at windows.
[02:43] <ravalox> I feel compiz is prettier overall, but KDE pares down quite nicely.
[02:44] <mww113> I installed ubuntu with wubi and now I cannot chmod /host on ubuntu which contains the windows installation. It is currently chmoded to 777 HELP! This is dangerous.
[02:44] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: ya i can ping my guest from my host
[02:45] <mww113> I plan to allow people to ssh in but if they do they could screw up windows, which would screw up ubuntu!
[02:45] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> so you know you can connect, have you checked your firewall settings on windoze side?
[02:46] <elad`> Once I've installed bittornado and mldonkey, how do I launch them?
[02:46] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: ya i did.. firewall works fine. :<
[02:46] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, are you trying to ssh from a remote host to the guest system?
[02:47] <mooglinux> elad`, they should show up in your applications menu. if not you can go to system -> preferances ->main menu and add them
[02:47] <mww113> Can somone HELP?! this could compromise my system.
[02:47] <Lemonwedge> whats the command to find what resolution my graphics card can handle??
[02:47] <LoveGuru> joeb3_: i m trying to ssh from host to guest
[02:47] <jrib> mww113: ask a question
[02:47] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> idk, what about port fowarding?
[02:47] <Lemonwedge> ^^^^
[02:47] <k54buzz> hello
[02:48] <elad`> Add them how?  I have no idea where they are.
[02:48] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i did portforwads in VMware :<
[02:48] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, The nat is only for outbound connections from the guest.  use bridging so the guest has an ip on the same network as the host.
[02:48] <mww113> jrib: I installed ubuntu with wubi and for some reason I cannot chmod /host which contains the windows installation it is currently chmoded to 777 <<very bad
[02:48] <becker`> Hey, I added a user to test something and then removed it. I've logged in from ny old user now but all the files and my setup seems like they are gone. Can someone help me what to do please?
[02:49] <jrib> mww113: pastebin the output of 'mount'
[02:49] <RequinB4> Evolution fails to fetch my mail anymore, and I don't see what is wrong...
[02:49] <Lemonwedge> how do i find what screen resolution my graphics card can handle?
[02:49] <mww113> jrib: As root?
[02:49] <jrib> mww113: doesn't matter
[02:49] <simester> Help please - My Ununtu desktop is "Unable to mount [my USB hard drive]". I know it's because of how I removed it from my Windows laptop, but there was no "Unmount" option, so I just removed it.
[02:49] <LoveGuru> joeb3_: well i never used "bridge" can i? and it will work for me ?
[02:49] <Odd-rationale> simester: try force mounting it...
[02:49] <D-MAN> lordrath are you still on?
[02:49] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, yes it will.
[02:49] <mww113> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d66d34113
[02:50] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> one last question, why are you using ssh?
[02:50] <simester> Odd-Rationale: What is that command please?
[02:50] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, unless you want to setup iptables or some other firewall
[02:50] <hikenboot> thanks found an alternate driver
[02:50] <Odd-rationale> simester: unfortunately i forgot... isn't on the error message?
[02:50] <hikenboot> have a great night everyone
[02:51] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: well ssh is just for example.  i can't access to my sshserver, ftpserver, apache whatever i can't access from host to guest.
[02:51] <jrib> mww113: you have to ask the wubi people.  It seems like /host is some wubi-specific thing
[02:51] <nossralsuva> simester: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/deviceyourtryingtomount /mountpoint -o force      eg.. mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /home/Templates -o force
[02:51] <mww113> jrib: Where can I find them?
[02:51] <Odd-rationale> simester: somethings like "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ -o force"
[02:51] <nossralsuva> simester: that was an example of a force mount
[02:51] <LoveGuru> joeb3_; i really don't wan't to mess with iptables, because i dont have much idea/info about iptables.
[02:51] <jrib> mww113: google for wubi, they have forums
[02:51] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> so you want access to your ubuntu files not just from the local machine?
[02:52] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i want to access from any where not just from my local machine
[02:53] <simester> nossralsuva" It says "Only root can do that"
[02:53] <D-MAN> need to know how to completely remove wine from my system?
[02:53] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> ok... you will need to do some configuring on the 'guest' side
[02:53] <nossralsuva> simester: be sure to type sudo
[02:53] <nossralsuva> simester: be sure to type sudo before typing the command
[02:53] <RequinB4> Evolution fails to fetch my mail anymore, and I don't see what is wrong...
[02:54] <hidzalot> how do you properly install adobe flash player so it will work ?
[02:54] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: could you point me what exactly and where?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale sudo mkdir /media/locked-drive then sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/locked-drive -o force  substitute your locked drive for sda1
[02:54] <jrib> hidzalot: install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[02:55] <hidzalot> ok
[02:55] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i know... i was just giving an example to someone...
[02:55] <D-MAN> need to know how to completely remove wine from my system?
[02:55] <Zoffix> Hello, have anyone managed to use any mail app on Ubuntu that would be able to receive mail from MS Exchange server?
[02:55] <Zoffix> I know that Evolution tries to, but apparently it doesn't support MS Exchange 2007
[02:55] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> do you have vmware tools installed?
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale agreed.
[02:55] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: :)
[02:56] <simester> nossralsuva: It gave me a bunch of directions and options using the "mount" command - and it even shows up under "Places", but it still isnt mounted.
[02:56] <cfedde> anyone with experience using zfs-fuse here?
[02:56] <lordrath> D-MAN: sorry its taking so long  i am in the middle of a flash crisis
[02:56] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: yea i do have
[02:56] <Zoffix> cfedde, :)
[02:56] <lordrath> D-MAN: Let me finish up and I will give you a hand
[02:56] <mooglinux> who was having flash trouble?
[02:56] <D-MAN> lordrath lol!
[02:56] <Zoffix> mooglinux, I do, sometimes.
[02:56] <D-MAN> lordrath thanks
[02:56] <mooglinux> 32 or 64bit?
[02:57] <Zoffix> 64
[02:57] <RequinB4> Evolution fails to fetch my mail anymore, and I don't see what is wrong...
[02:57] <Paddy_EIRE> RequinB4, which email service do you use?
[02:57] <croddy1> the GIMP used to render text from imported SVGs using sub-pixel antialiasing. i found this extremely useful. sometime in the past week it has stopped, and now renders the text using grayscale antialiasing. how can I rasterize SVGs using subpixel antialiasing?
[02:58] <Zoffix> I wonder if there is anything at all that supports Exchange 2007
[02:58] <LoveGuru> D-MAN i think u need " sudo apt-get --remove --purge wine*
[02:58] <RequinB4> PaddyEIRE: its gmail POP and aol IMAP
[02:58] <RequinB4> PaddyEIRE the rest are working fine
[02:58] <Paddy_EIRE> croddy, ask in the gimp channel
[02:58] <croddy1> Paddy_EIRE: I believe it is an ubuntu issue, as the version of GIMP has not changed. I am willing to use any tool in the distribution.
[02:58] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: any other idea?
[02:59] <RequinB4> PaddyEIRE: hold on i think i fixed it
[02:59] <percent20> ok, not really finding a lot of good info on this, but i have tried to use compiz. Problem is when i turn it on in appearances i lose my borders. Any ideas? or places I can look?
[02:59] <newmansan> hello guys
[02:59] <RequinB4> !hi
[02:59] <newmansan> thanks
[02:59] <newmansan> is this the place to get some tech support?
[02:59] <RequinB4> newmansan: yep, throw out a question
[02:59] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> is something close to what you want to do --> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-share-folders-with-your-ubuntu-virtual-machine-guest/
[02:59] <Zoffix> percent20, "borders"? You mean window decorations?
[03:00] <D-MAN> loveguru what happened i changed my screen rez and now cant apply changes in wine couse its off the screen!
[03:00] <percent20> Zoffix, yea I installed compiz manager, and the window decorations is on.
[03:00] <Maveas> Anybody who knows how DynDNS works? I need to set up a MX record
[03:00] <newmansan> "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." how do i fix it?
[03:00] <Zoffix> percent20, try: emerald --replace; if that fails, there is #compiz-fusion
[03:00] <LoveGuru> D-Man: i m not familiar with "wine" but if u want help with wine u can ask in #wine  channel.
[03:01] <genii> It's #winehq actually
[03:01] <D-MAN> loveguru there is no one on that channel lol
[03:01] <LoveGuru> ooops.. sorry ya its #winehq
[03:01] <LoveGuru> my mistake
[03:01] <joeb3_> Maveas, when you setup the host, there is an option for the mail exchanger.  That's MX.
[03:01] <Paddy_EIRE> croddy, well if you intend on using gimp it would be a question for them... otherwise sorry I cannot help you
[03:01] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: well ya i do access in my file.. in the same way. im talking about ssh thingy. :<
[03:02] <Maveas> joeb3_: hmm, how do I do it?
[03:02] <croddy1> I am not married to GIMP. I only want to render SVGs containing text to raster images using subpixel antialiasing. If there is another tool that can do this, I will use that.
[03:02] <LoveGuru> joeb3_: what is the difference between NAT and bridge?
[03:02] <athena> grrrr.... can some one help i'm like clueless when it comes to computers so the simplest task become hard
[03:02] <lordrath> D-Man What problems are you having with wine?  aside from trying to get rid of it?
[03:02] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | croddy
[03:03] <RequinB4> athena: just ask, what exactly is the problem?
[03:03] <croddy1> criminy
[03:03] <croddy1> if you don't know, say nothing.
[03:03] <athena> flash player
[03:03] <joeb3_> Maveas, click the "configure email routing button".
[03:03] <croddy1> i am following all the guidelines in how to ask questions the smart way.
[03:03] <deadlylife> hallo
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > croddy1
[03:03] <croddy1> if you haven't read it, you might consider it.
[03:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | croddy
[03:03] <D-MAN> lordrath i messed up screen resolution and now cannot apply changes couse they are off the screen?
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> croddy1 please stop
[03:04] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> what ssh cmd are you using 'hostname' 'ip'? are you using any modifiers
[03:04] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, nat allows outbound connections using your host as the source address.  Bridging puts the guest on you local network, just like the host.
[03:04] <deadlylife> I deleted /var/lib/dpkg
[03:04] <deadlylife> Now I can't use apt-
[03:04] <deadlylife> *aptitude
[03:04] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i m using putty at my host to get connection from guest. usgin host/port
[03:04] <deadlylife> What should I do?
[03:04] <joeb3_> Maveas, are you connected to www.dyndns.org?
[03:05] <Maveas> Yeah
[03:05] <deadlylife> I deleted /var/lib/dpkg
[03:05] <deadlylife> Can someone help?
[03:05] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> yes, but you are using vmware with a NAT, and also want to ssh to a 'guest' linux system. do you have /etc/vmware/vmnet8/nat/nat.conf
[03:05] <newmansan> I can't get any sound. It says it can't find any GStreamer plugins and/or devices. Help?
[03:05] <D-MAN> lordrath i tried deleting it but wen i re install wine it had the same settings as before
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > deadlylife
[03:05] <Maveas> joeb3_: yes
[03:06] <deadlylife> Jack_Sparrow, do you have any ideas about what to do or where I can find a default /var/lib/dpkg?
[03:06] <joeb3_> Maveas, edit the host you want to add mx for.  Mail routing is at the bottom.
[03:06] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: well no i dont have that location . becoz i installed my VMware in Windows. and i do have /etc/Vmware-Tools
[03:06] <D-MAN> lordrath so if i could restore wine to its default settings i would be good
[03:06]  * Benalex is away: ZzZz
[03:07] <Maveas> joeb3_: ok, then?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> deadlylife Please try patience.. ask your question like you did and wait, dont keep repeating it every minute.  If you dont get an answer look at forming a better question
[03:07] <lordrath_> anyone know how to connect to the winehq server on irc?
[03:07] <mds58> sorry
[03:07] <mroc> hi all.  i know kopete is a kde thing, but the number of people over at the kubuntu room is.....small, at best.   i need help with a webcam in kopete.  i have libjasper-runtime, but every request just ends with "no image received."  background messages in terminal are "X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3" and more.  can anyone please help?
[03:07] <joeb3_> Maveas, click "yes, enable mail routing".  You get a box to enter the mx record.
[03:07] <RequinB4> deadlylife: you can always reinstall as a last resort
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrath_ /j #winehq
[03:08] <deadlylife> Does anyone know where I can find a copy of /var/lib/dpkg, I deleted mine?
[03:08] <Maveas> joeb3_: I've got maveas.ath.cx as domain - what is my MX record then? :S
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> or was that not what you really wanted
[03:08] <lordrath_> do i type that in the server list  or what  i keep screwing it up  a little new to  irc
[03:08] <mds58> cna anyone help me with a print utility problem I am having
[03:08] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> idk man, have you tried to configure port forwarding on VMware NAT to allow forwarding of XX.X.X.XX:XXXX to 192.168.XXX.XXX:XX
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrath_ type that right where you just typed that line to me
[03:08] <lordrath_> ok thanks man
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:08] <joeb3_> Maveas, will maveas.ath.cx be the mail server?
[03:08] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms : i did
[03:08] <Maveas> Yeah
[03:09] <joeb3_> Maveas, Then that's what you use.
[03:09] <DavidCanarias> Can anyone please tell me what to type in the command line in Terminal to run Serpentine?
[03:09] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> sorry friend, I don't know.
[03:09] <joeb3_> Maveas, mail must be sent to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:09] <alarond> DavidCanarias: did you get that flash problem sorted out? :D
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !info serpentine
[03:09] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: Nevamind :) i tried all those things my self. but can't figure out. what/where i did something wrong
[03:10] <DavidCanarias> alarond: For the moment I think so, thks for asking!!
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias did you type serentine in a term?
[03:10] <joeb3_> Maveas, of course your mail server must be configured to accept mail fro maveas.ath.cx also.
[03:10] <mds58> trying to add a printer through HPLIP utility in KDE desktop and it wont acknowledge my printer as being on or connected
[03:10] <Maveas> joeb3_: I'm trying to install zimbra :)