[06:35] <Dreamer3> the gaim sysem is ubuntu and i'm lost
[06:35] <HaroldJohnson> sn9: Thanks for your help
[06:35] <pupil> what run level does ubuntu use for x-windows system,. is it 2 ?
[06:35] <dampjam> wickedpuppy: I already have the link in place... but the right source files are not there
[06:35] <Dreamer3> it worked fine earlier
[06:36] <Dreamer3> pupil: 3 or 5
[06:36] <sn9> HaroldJohnson: what files
[06:36] <Dreamer3> pupil: i thik
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> dampjam, can paste the while gcc command you did to compile ? oh and do you have X11 headers ?
[06:36] <pupil> Dreamer3, I thought Redhat systems used 3
[06:36] <pupil> Dreamer3, don't Debian systems use 2 ?
[06:37] <sn9> pupil: yes
[06:37] <nalioth> dampjam: install xlibs-dev xlibs-static-dev and x-window-system-dev
[06:37] <pupil> sn9, thank you,. I'm configuring ltsp server now
[06:37] <dampjam> gcc -MMD -c  -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -g -O2 -Wall -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fno-keep-static-consts -D__const=const -fno-strict-aliasing -D__int8=char -D__int16=short -D__int32=int "-D__int64=long long" -fPIC -D__WINE__ -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -o bitblt.o bitblt.c
[06:37] <dampjam> bitblt.c:9:27: warning: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
[06:37] <sn9> pupil: breezy has ltsp built-in
[06:38] <nalioth> dampjam: please dont paste in here
[06:38] <nalioth> dampjam: see what i wrote to you above?
[06:38] <Dreamer3> pupil: 2 is console
[06:38] <Dreamer3> pupil: i'd thought
[06:38] <dampjam> yes... thanks... but there are dependency errors on those packages
[06:39] <pupil> sn9, excellent,. cause I'm on breezy
[06:39] <pupil> sn9, so what then will I have to configure?
[06:39] <sn9> pupil: you still have to install the pkgs, though
[06:39] <pupil> sn9, I have installed the packages
[06:39] <dampjam> All of those packages end up requiring  libxrender-dev after a few levels, but it is not available
[06:39] <pupil> sn9, do I need to configure anything?
[06:40] <sn9> pupil: you have to configure /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, for one thing
[06:40] <pupil> sn9, and what do I do on the client?
[06:40] <nalioth> dampjam: are you using non ubuntu repos?
[06:40] <dampjam> nalioth: nope
[06:40] <nalioth> dampjam: are you sure? cuz all the depends for those 3 items i mentioned are present
[06:41] <dampjam> nalioth: positive, it wants libxrender-dev and it cannot find that
[06:41] <sn9> pupil: netboot it
[06:41] <nalioth> dampjam: something is very weird then
[06:42] <pupil> sn9, your over my head,. I don't know how to netboot my P133
[06:42] <sn9> pupil: what nic does it have?
[06:42] <pupil> ne2k-pci
[06:43] <pupil> sn9, ne2k-pci
[06:43] <pupil> sn9, realtek 8029
[06:43] <dampjam> nalioth: I have run apt-get update... it cannot find those
[06:45] <sn9> pupil: it has 2 nics?
[06:45] <pupil> no,. I only have one nic,... i was showing you the modprobe ne2k-pci,.
[06:45] <pupil> sn9, that is how I modprobe for my realtek 8029
[06:45] <sn9> pupil: does the nic have a boot rom?
[06:46] <pupil> sn9, I don't know
[06:46] <bimberi> dampjam: show us your /etc/apt/sources.list, on a pastebin ...
[06:46] <bimberi> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:46] <sn9> pupil: look at it
[06:46] <sagar> how do you install new fonts in gnome?
[06:46] <weijie90> dump them in fonts:\\\
[06:46] <pupil> sn9, I don't know what to look for
[06:46] <bur[n] er> sagar: put them in fonts:///
[06:46] <weijie90> i mean fonts:///
[06:46] <bam_> what is busybox?
[06:46] <sn9> pupil: either an empty socket or a chip in a socket
[06:46] <sagar> oh ok thanks
[06:46] <weijie90> i mean fonts:\\\ or whatever
[06:47] <sn9> pupil: if the socket is empty, you don't have a rom, and need a floppy
[06:47] <sagar> also i had a problem where i installed KDE, but then removed it, and now all my "application" font settings aren't correct..when i set the "application font" settings, only firefox respects those values
[06:47] <bur[n] er> \'s are windowsy... /'s are linuxy
[06:47] <dampjam> bimberi: http://pastebin.com/396151
[06:47] <dampjam> I only put the uncommented lines in
[06:47] <pussfeller> can someone tell me what their xorg conf is using for the keyboard, i think my old config wont work
[06:47] <Ar}{Angel> Hello folks
[06:47] <pussfeller> for like pc104
[06:48] <bur[n] er> pussfeller: u can always do a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:48] <HkS3207> Q:
[06:48] <darklogic> greets
[06:48] <HkS3207> Does ubuntu support drivers for WebCameras ?
[06:48] <pussfeller> but, i dont wanna lose my nvidia stuff
[06:48] <Ar}{Angel> quick question, how do I configure the filebrowser to allow me root access
[06:48] <pussfeller> but i suppose I should
[06:48] <Ar}{Angel> I can't look at my hd because it says I don't have permissions
[06:48] <HkS3207> Q: Does ubuntu support drivers for WebCameras ?
[06:49] <darklogic> livecd stops at scsi-extra-modules on the "loading additional components" page. anyone know what i should try?
[06:49] <bur[n] er> HkS3207: plug it in and try ;)
[06:49] <pussfeller> HkS3207: many webcams work to varying degrees
[06:49] <bur[n] er> HkS3207: mine works ;)
[06:49] <bimberi> dampjam: you don't have the main repository enabled - paste all of it
[06:49] <pupil> sn9, I can't tell,. is the socket fairly large?'
[06:49] <pussfeller> my crappy old ibm webcam works
[06:49] <weijie90> does gdesklets have a terminal desklet?
[06:49] <HkS3207> mine doesnt seems like
[06:49] <pupil> sn9, its an older card
[06:49] <HkS3207> besides, this is ubuntu live cd... but it didnt configurated mine
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> eh ah ... dampjam pastebin pls
[06:49] <bur[n] er> HkS3207: how are you testing?
[06:49] <bur[n] er> HkS3207: gnome-meeting?
[06:49] <HkS3207> nah
[06:49] <nalioth> weijie90: try paralogger (look at freshmeat.net)
[06:49] <Ar}{Angel> How do I make my hda1 icon on the desktop sudo itself?
[06:49] <HkS3207> i looked for it in my computer :P
[06:50] <HkS3207> let me try dat..
[06:50] <HkS3207> :)
[06:50] <weijie90> thx nalioth
[06:50] <pupil> sn9, I have hoary server installed does that help?
[06:50] <sn9> pupil: if there's nothing wrong with your eyes, you'll see some kind of socket if it's there
[06:50] <ubuntu> x-chatif you are talking to me
[06:50] <darklogic> is there a way i can skip it? i can get to a virtual console
[06:50] <pupil> sn9, on my client that is
[06:50] <bur[n] er> Ar}{Angel: better than sudo'ing itself, set the permissions so a user can access it via /etc/fstab
[06:50] <Ar}{Angel> If anyone is free to answer some questions from a noob, please /msg me
[06:50] <pupil> sn9, I see alot of sockets., one big one thats empty,.
[06:50] <sn9> pupil: then you don't have a rom
[06:51] <pupil> sn9, ok
[06:51] <sn9> pupil: you need a floppy for netbooting
[06:51] <pupil> sn9, where do I go for that?
[06:51] <HkS3207> umm, it kind of got frozen when doing the conf on the NAT part...
[06:52] <bimberi> dampjam: you need something like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted"  (and deb-src ....)
[06:52] <dampjam> Thanks.... I got it all figured out.... it's installing all 44 packages now
[06:52] <bimberi> dampjam: er, sorry, that was wrong, but now irrelevant :)
[06:53] <SolidSnake> can't even message people what kinda crap is that
[06:53] <dampjam> the final goal was to get cedega to work... does anybody keep a daily deb make of cedega?
[06:53] <bam_> benplaut!
[06:53] <benplaut> hey bam_
[06:53] <bimberi> SolidSnake: you can if you're nick is registered
[06:53] <darklogic> anyone?
[06:54] <darklogic> this is a bit frustrating, could really use some help
[06:54] <bam_> did ya get pdax installed ok
[06:54] <TiMiDo> darklogic; yes waz up?
[06:54] <benplaut> bam_: in #zaurus
[06:54] <SolidSnake> just say no to registering
[06:54] <SolidSnake> thats why im freaking running nix
[06:54] <darklogic> TiMiDo, trying to boot the livecd, it stops at "scsi-extra-modules" on the "loading additional components" page
[06:55] <darklogic> i can get to a virtual console, i need a way to skip it or something
[06:55] <sagar> where is the fonts:/// folder actually located?
[06:55] <TiMiDo> sagar; .fonts
[06:55] <TiMiDo> or whereis fonts
[06:55] <sn9> pupil: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/thinstation/network_boot_floppy%2Bcd%2Bhd_540.zip?download
[06:56] <HkS3207> nahd
[06:56] <HkS3207> doesnt work
[06:56] <sagar> timido, the files in fonts:/// and ~/.fonts aren't the same
[06:56] <HkS3207> any tips about how to install my webcam ?
[06:57] <Juhaz> sagar, fonts:// shows both ~/.fonts and /usr/share/fonts
[06:57] <darklogic> i could really use some help here
[06:58] <sagar> Juhaz oh i see
[06:58] <theantidj> Hi.  I'm looking for some assistance on getting my machine on an 802.1x network.
[06:58] <Centaur_> What version of gcc does breezy use to compile the kernel off the install cd?
[06:59] <TiMiDo> !info gcc breezy
[06:59] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.0.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[06:59] <TiMiDo> Version: 4:4.0.1-3
[06:59] <TiMiDo> Centaur_; Version: 4:4.0.1-3
[06:59] <Centaur_> alright, thank you
[07:00] <Thunderguy> Heh, My system is having lots of trouble with USB floppy drives, It is just spitting out errors on everything I ask it to do.
[07:01] <witless> this freakin badger might finally be the one that makes me switch from debian-unstable
[07:02] <theantidj> anyone with ideas on how to help me with 802.1x?
[07:02] <hks3207> not at all ...
[07:02] <hks3207> i dont know wireless networking :)
[07:02] <mllr> if your running xchat 2.4.4, please msg me if you have a minute. thanks.
[07:02] <theantidj> it's for a wired network though
[07:02] <theantidj> but they still use 802.1x authentication
[07:02] <Coz> Hello all
[07:03] <hks3207> oh well
[07:03] <hks3207> then u may ask...
[07:03] <theantidj> I apparently need a program named xsupplicant
[07:03] <bam_> anyone running korganizer?
[07:03] <theantidj> but I don't know how to install it
[07:03] <Coz> I was wondering if any of you could tell me how to create a keyboard shortcut for CLOSING a cd tray?
[07:03] <theantidj> if I'm not already connected to the internet
[07:03] <hks3207> theantidj,  how come
[07:03] <theantidj> since I can't seem to apt-get it
[07:03] <Coz>  i already have the open cd tray keyboard shortcut
[07:03] <hks3207> umm
[07:03] <hks3207> why dont u auto-download it ?
[07:03] <hks3207> i mean
[07:03] <hks3207> manual
[07:03] <defendguin> has there been 1 update for breezy yet?
[07:04] <hks3207> search in google and download it then install it urself
[07:04] <theantidj> I've got a tar.gz of the xsupplicant file
[07:04] <theantidj> but I don't exactly know what to do with it
[07:04] <theantidj> the documentation at Sourceforge is not new-user friendly
[07:04] <sagar> why wont any applications respect font settings in my "font preferences/application font" setting?!
[07:05] <sn9> theantidj: did you look for a .deb at packages.ubuntu.com?
[07:05] <theantidj> hks: this is their installation instructions: "Generally speaking you should be able to type: ./configure; make; make install to configure and install the Open1x supplicant."
[07:05] <todd_> are the vts turned off in breezy or something
[07:05] <theantidj> I don't know what that means.
[07:05] <sn9> theantidj: did you look for a .deb at packages.ubuntu.com?
[07:05] <lwells> is there a link on instructions on how to upgrade to breezy?
[07:05] <theantidj> sn9: no
[07:05] <theantidj> I will do that now
[07:05] <todd_> once i get into x my vts are gone
[07:05] <todd_> most distressing
[07:06] <geppy> I just `apt-get dist-upgrade`d, and I lost all of my icons (desktop items, things in Nautilus, things like the trash applet and the "show desktop" applet)
[07:06] <geppy> I'm also worried that it messed up my clock, all of my music is playing in half-time, and getting faster as it goes
[07:07] <DShepherd> hey
[07:07] <DShepherd> I need gcc 3.4
[07:08] <DShepherd> I cant apt-get cause I in windows now
[07:08] <theantidj> sn9: they do have it here: "http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/xsupplicant"
[07:08] <Eggo> okay
[07:08] <theantidj> I'm unsure of where to go from there
[07:08] <geppy> okay, cleerlooks was renamed to GNOME, that should help the icons
[07:08] <geppy> that doesn't help my half-time issue
[07:08] <sn9> theantidj: download it from there and put the file on your ubuntu-breezy
[07:08] <DShepherd> would 3.4 be on a breezy cd?
[07:08] <Madpilot> theantidj: if it's listed at packages.ubuntu, you can get the package thru Synaptic or apt-get
[07:08] <DShepherd> or hoary?
[07:08] <theantidj> sn9: should I put it in a specific directory?
[07:09] <sn9> theantidj: no
[07:09] <sorush20> I can't print on the damn  printer..
[07:09] <theantidj> sn9: Ok, and once I put it on my breezy machine, the apt-get command will work for that package?
[07:09] <sn9> theantidj: you will install it with dpkg -i *.deb
[07:10] <theantidj> sn9: oh ok
[07:10] <jmob> Anyone have pointers for dealing with multi-channel (>2) audio cards?  Specifically I'm trying to figure out how to tell it I only have 2 channels on my speakers.
[07:10] <lancer285> Hey guys, my system has been switching to read only for some reason. I can't figure it out. I pasted the output of dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3217
[07:11] <Madpilot> sn9 & theantidj: every package listed at packages.ubuntu.com is installable thru Synaptic or apt-get. Why are you worrying about dpkg?
[07:11] <jmob> It sounds like the bass channel is getting sent into the ether :-/
[07:11] <sn9> Madpilot: theantidj has no net access
[07:11] <inittab> just wondering if anybody can help me with a dhcp problem, when booting it sits on configuring network devices for quite awhile, ends up not getting a lease on eth1, but as soon as i type dhclient eth1 at a prompt it gets a lease, any ideas?
[07:11] <sorush20> I keep getting access denied when I try to delete anything form my computer space can someone help please.
[07:11] <Madpilot> sn9: ah... much is explained...
[07:12] <inittab> in daemon.log it shows it doing a dhcpdiscover multiple times, but never getting a offer, when i run it manually it gets a offer right away
[07:12] <sn9> lancer285: your HD is dead
[07:12] <theantidj> sn9: upon closer inspection there isn't one with a .deb exention
[07:12] <sorush20> starting of the kernel log fails during loading..
[07:13] <jmob> inittab: do you run dhclient with any arguments?
[07:13] <lancer285> sn9, that's what I was afraid of ): it seems that a reboot temporarly fixes the prob,
[07:13] <inittab> jmob, simply dhclient eth1 at the prompt
[07:13] <sn9> theantidj: the .deb is what you should have downloaded
[07:13] <jmob> inittab: what's in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:13] <inittab> eth0 is my local net, which is setup static
[07:13] <jmob> inittab: there should be something link auto eth1 if you want it to autoconfigured
[07:14] <jmob> inittab: something like "auto eth1" i mean
[07:14] <AdmiralSenn> eep
[07:14] <AdmiralSenn> the 'run application' entry vanished from my gnome menu
[07:14] <inittab> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3218
[07:14] <AdmiralSenn> anyone know how to add it back in?
[07:14] <lancer285> sn9, If I get a SATA drive, is that supported and working good in Ubuntu?
[07:14] <DShepherd> I need to get gcc 3.4. I cant apt-get right now Cause I;m on a windows machine, Anybody know how I can get it otherwise
[07:14] <theantidj> sn9: never mind, I went to the wrong place on packages.ubuntu.com  I found it now
[07:14] <theantidj> thanks!
[07:14] <weijie90> how do i remove the eterm menubar?
[07:14] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <DShepherd> k
[07:15] <sn9> lancer285: yes, but not all sata host controller chipsets are equal
[07:15] <jmob> inittab: first auto statement might be the only one it's seeing. try "auto eth0 eth1"?
[07:15] <inittab> jmob, alright ill try that, but i can see it trying to use dhclient on eth1 in the logs
[07:15] <lancer285> sn9, so I should make sure that the one my MB has is supported? This would be the secondary drive, not / and /root, but just /home
[07:15] <inittab> not to mention the auto lo above that.
[07:16] <jmob> inittab: nevermind, the man page says there can be multiple auto statements
[07:16] <pupil> sn9, I seem to be having probs configuring the server
[07:16] <Jemte> what might cause the ubuntu iso not to run at boot time
[07:17] <pupil> sn9, I installed all the packages with ltsp-admin,. but when I go to configure hte dhcp,. etc,. it says its not installed yet,.
[07:17] <sn9> lancer285: if it's on the mobo, chances are it's crappy. read http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[07:17] <jmob> inittab: strange
[07:17] <lancer285> sn9,  thank you for the help, I'll check it out
[07:17] <jmob> inittab: what's the dhcp server?
[07:17] <jmob> inittab: does it have any logs?
[07:18] <mururoa>  Hi there. I'm In the installtion on amd64 cpu. Where can I find informations about wich kernel choosing for AMD64 ? ( out of a list of 9 and no hints )
[07:18] <Rev-Marc> how do I start a vnc server on my laptop so I can connect to it from my wifes WinXP?
[07:18] <sn9> pupil: you shouldn't need ltsp-admin
[07:18] <AdmiralSenn> the 'run application' entry vanished from my gnome menu
[07:18] <AdmiralSenn> anyone know how to add it back in?
[07:18] <inittab> jmob, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3219
[07:19] <Rev-Marc> package manager indicates that I have several installed?
[07:19] <inittab> the first one is when a /etc/init.d/networking restart is done
[07:19] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: system -> preferences -> remote desktop
[07:19] <pupil> sn9, ok,. well., what do I need to do to enable it?
[07:19] <inittab> where it actually gets the lease is me doing a dhclient eth1
[07:19] <sn9> pupil: there's an article in the ubuntu wiki
[07:19] <Rev-Marc> bimberi that starts a server on mine?
[07:19] <bur[n] er> AdmiralSenn: alt+f2 ;)
[07:19] <weijie90> how do i remove the eterm menubar?
[07:20] <AdmiralSenn> ....
[07:20] <bur[n] er> AdmiralSenn: not necessarily the same, but just as effective ;)
[07:20] <weijie90> brb
[07:20] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: yes
[07:20] <sn9> mururoa: don't you know your own hardware? :)
[07:20] <Rev-Marc> Thank You
[07:20] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: yw :)
[07:21] <AdmiralSenn> seriously
[07:21] <pupil> sn9, how do I know what dhcp client I am using?
[07:21] <AdmiralSenn> I want to add it back in
[07:21] <pupil> sn9, I mean server
[07:21] <mururoa> I do know it but all 9 kernel should work on my amd64 cpu. I want to know what are the differences ( what's in each of them )
[07:21] <sn9> pupil: the one in breezy. dhcpd3
[07:22] <bimberi> AdmiralSenn: i don't know how to add it back in, but <ALT>F2 is an alternative
[07:22] <pupil> sn9, I need to configure it,. what files do I configure?
[07:22] <jmob> inittab: see what happens if you take the auto statement for eth1 out and run it manually at start-up
[07:22] <sorush20> how can I log in as root in kde..
[07:23] <AdmiralSenn> it's not like I use it a lot, I just prefer to have it at the bottom of my menu
[07:23] <sorush20> does anyone here own a laserjet 1000 printer
[07:23] <Rev-Marc> I can not connect (or see) the Epson printer on my wifes WinXP, I know that it is shared, any thoughts?
[07:23] <sn9> mururoa: optimizations
[07:23] <faisal> hi
[07:23] <faisal> all
[07:23] <geppy> is there a Human GDM theme with a face browser?
[07:23] <sn9> pupil: /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[07:23] <faisal> need cacti help
[07:24] <pupil> thanks
[07:24] <inittab> jmob, if i run it manually
[07:24] <inittab> it works fine
[07:24] <Hobbsee> !tell sorush20 about root
[07:25] <pupil> sn9, I do not have /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[07:25] <Rev-Marc> I can not connect (or see) the Epson printer on my wifes WinXP, I know that it is shared, any thoughts?
[07:25] <sn9> pupil: did you install ltsp-server-standalone?
[07:25] <jmob> inittab: Well, I can't think of anything other than dumping ``route'' and ``ifconfig -a'' output from your networking script
[07:25] <PapaPitufo> #gnome is dead. anybody here
[07:25] <pupil> sn9, I'm not sure,.
[07:25] <Madpilot> !tell sorush20 about printers
[07:26] <sn9> PapaPitufo: #gnome is on irc.gimp.org, isn't it?
[07:26] <xuniluser> Help: I need a driver for Epson LX300+
[07:26] <Hhhhh> yes, gnome is dead
[07:26] <Hhhhh> KDE all the way
[07:26] <Hhhhh> j/k
[07:26] <PapaPitufo> sn9: i was looking at the freenode one
[07:27] <Madpilot> xuniluser: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[07:27] <pupil> sn9, yes,. i did
[07:27] <pupil> wait
[07:27] <pupil> no I didnt
 I would have guessed but where -the hell- can I find wich kernel include what ?
[07:27] <pupil> sn9, do I need standalone?
[07:28] <sn9> mururoa: you can try installing all of them and looking at their .config files in /boot
[07:28] <sn9> pupil: yes
[07:28] <shekhar> hello i am having delays in waking from suspended state in breezy, can someone help?
[07:28] <pupil> sn9, ok,. will do
[07:28] <PapaPitufo> does anybody know how to add to gnome a nice feature from KDE (and windows and beos...): Be able to browse all your files from cascading menus?
[07:29] <PapaPitufo> in KDE it's called Quick Navigator i think
[07:29] <richard> im trying to figure out how to configure my creative webcam on here
[07:30] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: you can set Nautilus up to do that - enable Browser View, I think it's called
[07:30] <richard> its an instant webcam
[07:30] <richard> can someone help
[07:30] <jmob> inittab: maybe the dhcp packets are getting swalled by something
[07:30] <jmob> swallowed
[07:30] <sorush20> My firmware is uploaded but I can't print I don't know what the hell is going on...
 mmm, yes it's one option. Any clue of what differ from kernel-xxx to kernel-image-xxx to kernel-image-2.6.12-9-xxx ?
[07:30] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: ?? I mean I want to just browse the filesystem as if it were the Windows Start Menu.
[07:30] <DShepherd> where can I find a list of packages that come default with hoary
[07:31] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: KDE, BeOS and Windows has had it since Windows 95 SR2
[07:31] <PapaPitufo> DShepherd: an overview can be found at distrowatch.com
[07:31] <crimsun> mururoa: do you mean linux-image-foo?
[07:32] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: you mean one giant unusable menu instead of three usable ones like Gnome has?
[07:32] <crimsun> mururoa: each linux-image-2.6.12-9-foo is optimised for a different cpu
 I mean kernel-image-k8 and kernel-k8 for example
[07:32] <crimsun> mururoa: we don't use kernel-image-foo
[07:32] <pupil> sn9, when starting and stopping dhcp server,. it failed for both
[07:33] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: I DON'T want a Start Menu. I want a way to browse the filesystem, with the method the Start Menu uses... cascading lists of menus
[07:33] <sn9> pupil: then your config file is invalid
[07:33] <pupil> sn9, and what should I do?
[07:33] <crimsun> mururoa: linux-k7 is a metapackage that pulls in linux-image-2.6.12-9-k7 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-k7. All the additional packaging infrastructure is there to ensure smooth upgrades.
[07:34] <sn9> pupil: fix your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[07:34] <pupil> sn9, ok
[07:34] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: in Nautilus, you mean? (gnome's file manager)
 so in doubt I should use pre-selected kernel-amd64-k8 ?
[07:35] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: I mean in any part of the Gnome desktop. Nautilus, panels, gnome menu, wherever,
[07:37] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: in Nautilus, Edit menu - Prefs - Behaviour - Always open in browser windows
[07:37] <tapox> On Windows and Mac OS X, when I hold down my middle mouse button (usually the scrollwheel) in Firefox, it displays me with an arrow that I can use to scroll up and down simply by moving the mouse. How can I get this in Ubuntu's Firefox?
[07:37] <PapaPitufo> Madpilot: you don't seem to understand what I want
[07:37] <Madpilot> PapaPitufo: obviously I don't... perhaps you should be clearer
[07:38] <DShepherd> where can I find a list of packages that come default with hoary
[07:38] <sn9> tapox: that's a function of the mouse manufacturer's driver, not firefox afaik
[07:38] <PapaPitufo> bbias
[07:39] <sn9> tapox: did you install Logitech MouseWare for both Win and Mac or something?
[07:39] <Toma-> !tell me about nvidia
[07:39] <doojin> hi guys
[07:40] <doojin> how can I install ubuntu through floppy disk?
[07:40] <sn9> doojin: do you have net access?
[07:40] <doojin> yes
[07:40] <doojin> It's fast
[07:40] <doojin> I installed debian through floppy disk
[07:41] <sn9> doojin: but no cd drive?
[07:41] <doojin> I can't burn a cd
[07:41] <sn9> ah
[07:41] <doojin> net install with floppy disk boot is ideal
[07:41] <nalioth> doojin: installing breezy?
[07:41] <doojin> what is breezy?
[07:41] <nalioth> doojin: the latest version of ubuntu
[07:41] <kruzr> !tell doojin about breezy
[07:41] <doojin> ubuntu is linux for people hehehe
[07:41] <sn9> doojin: breezy is 5.10 of ubuntu/kubuntu
[07:41] <Madpilot> doojin: you can order free pressed CDs of Ubuntu
[07:41] <doojin> I want breezy
[07:42] <doojin> but i have to pay for the ship
[07:42] <Madpilot> doojin: no, it's all free
[07:42] <kruzr> really?
[07:42] <bimberi> DShepherd: i don't know how to list *every* package, but looking at the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop (apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop) will give you some idea
[07:42] <kruzr> is that a Shuttleworth Special or what?
[07:42] <sn9> doojin: you can netinstall ubuntu, but not from floppy
[07:42] <nalioth> doojin: get some woody netinst floppys, and as soon as you get a root account and apt-get and network goin, change out your sources.list for breezys list. then update your apt, and dist-upgrade
[07:42] <Madpilot> doojin & kruzr: I guess Shuttleworth is paying the tab - http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:43] <doojin> what the fuck are you talking?
[07:43] <nalioth> doojin: watch your language please
[07:43] <doojin> my language is korean
[07:43] <kruzr> *ding*
[07:43] <doojin> south korean
[07:43] <nalioth> doojin: well in this channel "f**k" is not acceptable
[07:44] <Madpilot> doojin: http://shipit.ubuntu.com will ship you FREE Ubuntu CDs
[07:44] <nalioth> or you can use woody to help you (works every time)
[07:44] <kruzr> nalioth: is it really that simple?  I have a hard time believing something wouldn't break somewhere
[07:44] <firestorm> Hi. I'm trying to install JDK1.5 with 'sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5debian' but get: Package sun-j2sdk1.5debian is not available, but is referred to by another package....Any clues?
[07:44] <kairu0> anyone else getting popping static with esd?
[07:45] <doojin> can I install through net with a floppy disk?
[07:45] <nalioth> kruzr: woody is so old, that you practically are replacing everything
[07:45] <nalioth> doojin: i just told you how
[07:45] <sn9> !tell firestorm about w32deb
[07:45] <doojin> nalioth : that's just difficult for me to understand
[07:45] <kruzr> I guess you could even do it with potato, then.
[07:45] <doojin> nalioth : are you telling me that I have to install debian first?
[07:45] <nalioth> kruzr: does potato come after sarge or before?
[07:46] <kruzr> nalioth: WAY before
[07:46] <kruzr> potato is pre-woody
[07:46] <kruzr> heh
[07:46] <nalioth> doojin: you are using the debian woody net install floppies to install a minimal debian. you need network, apt-get and a root account
[07:46] <pupil> sn9, where do I got to change the address for ltsp-build-client  ... cause the address its using fails
[07:47] <nalioth> doojin: once you get your woody debian to that state, use the breezy badger sources list, update your apt-get and dist-upgrade
[07:47] <sn9> pupil: worked for me
[07:47] <kruzr> nalioth: what about driver configuration and kernel config and such?  won't Ubuntu leave all that stuff stock-woody?
[07:47] <pupil> I: Retrieving Release
[07:47] <pupil> E: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release
[07:47] <sn9> pupil: oh, wait. no it didn't
[07:47] <nalioth> kruzr: i suspect the upgrade will be a long one as you answer questions
[07:48] <kruzr> mm
[07:48] <doojin> nalioth : that's bothering I just want a shipped cd now
[07:48] <nalioth> doojin: shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <nalioth> why DONT they have a way to install from a bootable cd/
[07:49] <kruzr> er.  "they" being whom?
[07:49] <luckyman> hi, i have a problem booting with liveCD.
[07:49] <luckyman> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[07:49] <[Micro] > hi guys, i'm just going through my first ubuntu install. switching from gentoo.
[07:49] <nalioth> i mean why there is not a bootable floppy img on the cds
[07:49] <luckyman> then it stoped booting
[07:49] <sn9> pupil: it's been awhile since i did it, and i don't remember that much
[07:49] <[Micro] > can someone tell me how the default install partitions the hard drive? (i.e. swap, boot, root, etc.)
[07:49] <doojin> or jesus
[07:50] <doojin> oh jesus
[07:50] <[Micro] > debating whether to go with the default or partition manually...
[07:50] <doojin> It will take several weeks to arrive at home
[07:50] <luckyman> can anyone help me?
[07:50] <kruzr> doojin: do you live in South Korea?
[07:50] <pupil> sn9, int he howto it says I can change the mirror,. but I'm not sure what mirro to change it too
[07:50] <doojin> yes
[07:50] <doojin> I'm in south korea
[07:50] <sn9> luckyman: sounds like a hardware problem, but what does it say before that?
[07:50] <dazvid> Can someone please help with this error > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3221
[07:50] <T_ConX> Need help!  I think I killed Sound Juicer...
[07:50] <dazvid> Not sure what the output means..
[07:51] <kruzr> doojin: isn't your country filled to overflowing with internet cafes?  burn a CD at one of those :)
[07:51] <sn9> pupil: archive.ubuntu.com probably is ok
[07:51] <tech_> asl
[07:51] <doojin> krur : oh you are smart
[07:51] <doojin> kruzr
[07:51] <pupil> sn9, would you haveppen to know where in the script to edit?
[07:51] <kruzr> I try :)
[07:51] <sn9> pupil: i don't remember anymore
[07:52] <T_ConX> can someone plz help me!  I need to fix sound juicer...
[07:52] <kruzr> well, I guess that settles that.
[07:52] <luckyman> sn9: i dont remember, i was trying it on my friend's comp....then Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! showed up, and stopped booting
[07:52] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : you dont get a /home partition if you do it automatically
[07:52] <sn9> luckyman: oh well
[07:52] <sells> tritium: hey Mike, what is going on
[07:53] <Josey> is there anyway to upgrade from vc6++ to 7 to use directx sdk updates?
[07:53] <[Micro] > Hobbsee, thanks for the info.
[07:53] <[Micro] > don't care much for one, to be honest.
[07:53] <luckyman> sn9: what can i do to make it boot?
[07:53] <[Micro] > never know how to allocate space...
[07:54] <sn9> dazvid: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and enable glx
[07:54] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : how much space you allocating?  half each or so, more for /home if you've got heaps of space
[07:54] <tapox> sn9: Sorry for the late response, but no, I didn't have any software installed for the mouse (though it is a Logitech). I noticed that Firefox drew said cursor onto the webpage itself, briefly displaying an image icon, so I don't think it's a feature of the driver.
[07:55] <[Micro] > i have 30gb. usually just set up 2gb or so swap, the rest root. in gentoo, i also had a separate small boot partition. but maybe i should consider setting up a separate home partition.
[07:55] <kruzr> hey, isn't the internet supposed to blow up soon because of that whole Level3 thing?
[07:55] <luckyman> sn9: can my problem be solved?
[07:55] <sn9> luckyman: just try it again, and maybe it'll work. check out the hardware, too
[07:55] <kruzr> in fact, wasn't that supposed to be today?
[07:55] <luckyman> sn9: ok
[07:56] <luckyman> sn9: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12928
[07:56] <luckyman> this guy has the same problem too
[07:56] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : maybe stick 13 gb / and 15 gb /home then, or take more out of / if you wanted a /boot partition
[07:56] <sn9> tapox: i know for a fact mac os x will not do that by default
[07:57] <luckyman> sn9: but he has a install cd, and mine is a liveCD
[07:57] <tapox> sn9: Yeah, it won't happen in other programs, only Firefox.
[07:57] <sn9> luckyman: you get all those numbers too?
[07:57] <aftertaf> morning campers :)
[07:58] <tapox> aftertaf, I'm this close to making a counter-strike reference, but can't put myself to do it. :-)
[07:58] <luckyman> sn9: i'm not sure...but i did get some numbers before that...dont know if they are exactly the same
[07:58] <sn9> tapox: must be a general firefox issue then
[07:58] <[Micro] > Hobbsee, thanks, I might go for something like that.
[07:58] <tapox> sn9: Okay, thanks.
[07:58] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : no problems, and it's easier if you have to reinstall, as you keep all your settings
[08:00] <aftertaf> tapox:  wazzup wit' da fox?
[08:00] <[Micro] > Hobbsee: Would you go for 1GB (apparently the default) or 2GB swap? I have 1GB physical RAM.
[08:00] <Ekibyougami> !dvd
[08:00] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[08:00] <aftertaf> do you need more than physical ram in swap any more? i heard not.
[08:01] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : could do either, you've got plenty of space to use 2 gig
[08:01] <Hobbsee> [Micro] : but you might just find that's a waste of space
[08:01] <nalioth> aftertaf: depends on how much physical ram you have
[08:01] <[Micro] > I have 2GB, but I've never really monitored how much swap space I've actually used in the past.
[08:01] <tapox> aftertaf: When you click the middle mouse button on Windows/OS X, it allows you to scroll up and down by moving the mouse, and stopping by clicking it again. Won't work in Ubuntu.
[08:02] <sn9> luckyman: i guess i'll have to wait until it happens to me before i have some idea
[08:02] <sampan> tapox, that works in konq (in kubuntu breezy) at least
[08:02] <Hobbsee> tapox: that's because middle click is used as paste generally
[08:02] <aftertaf> tapox:  ahh. works for me. maybe when you dkpg-reconfigure X you get to specify it.
[08:02] <tapox> Hobbsee: Ohhhhhhh.
[08:02] <luckyman> sn9: ok, then, thx anyways, i'll try again later
[08:02] <aftertaf> not mid click, just the scrolly wheel
[08:03] <aftertaf> nalioth:  howdy mister :)
[08:03] <T_ConX> can someone plz help me!  I need to fix sound juicer...
[08:04] <zrothe> Anyone else notice the ubuntu firefox search box?
[08:04] <zrothe> ;)
[08:05] <oficina> ho
[08:05] <zrothe> Does anyone know if libwine-dev includes libwine-alsa?
[08:06] <zrothe> or does anyone know a repository that has libwine-alsa in it?
[08:06] <PapPitufo> Madpilot: hello, I'm back. Here's what I mean http://www.feriadelagua.com/archivos/lini/kde_quick_browser.jpg
[08:07] <PapPitufo> I don't like using KDE, it is a slob on my machine. Gnome is snappier on this old fart.
[08:07] <PapPitufo> But I use the QuickBrowser a lot, and I miss the functionality
[08:08] <Razor-X> PapPitufo: use ratpoison :P
[08:08] <PapPitufo> ?
[08:09] <Razor-X> PapPitufo: it's another WM, very minimalistic though, it's not for everyone
[08:09] <esc_ape> hello
[08:09] <Razor-X> PapPitufo: if it sounds like your thing though, go ahead and try it
[08:09] <Razor-X> esc_ape: hi
[08:10] <Madpilot> PapPitufo: I get a 404 on that URL...
[08:10] <sampan> me too
[08:12] <bur[n] er> is ratpoison like Xfce?
[08:13] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: not by a long shot
[08:13] <Razor-X> that's why I said it's ``not for everyone''
[08:13] <bur[n] er> aww
[08:13] <sampan> even more minimalistic?
[08:13] <bur[n] er> PapPitufo: try Xfce?  get the xubuntu-desktop pacakge :)
[08:13] <Razor-X> XFce is excellent at what it does, but it's not truly minimalistic
[08:13] <Razor-X> sampan: yeah
[08:13] <Amaranth> ratpoison doesn't use the mouse at all for all WM functionality
[08:13] <bur[n] er> bleh
[08:13] <sampan> ouch, no mouse at all
[08:13] <Amaranth> it's like screen for X
[08:13] <bur[n] er> bleh
[08:13] <Razor-X> yeah, it is basically screen for X
[08:13] <Amaranth> but you can use the mouse for apps that you run, of course
[08:14] <bur[n] er> even fluxbox sounds more featureful
[08:14] <bur[n] er> (I guess I shouldn't say that as fluxbox is more featureful than Metacity by a long shot)
[08:14] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: but, if you're lazy like me, you'ld realize the mouse is pretty far away
[08:14] <Razor-X> my trackball is a whole foot away from the centrarl area of my keyboard
[08:14] <Amaranth> metacity is intentionally featureless
[08:14] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: still comforting for most ;)
[08:14] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: yeah, I guess :P
[08:15] <h4zn__> How can i play wma files ?
[08:15] <Razor-X> i'm abhorently lazy on the computer, the most I can do with one area, the better
[08:15] <bur[n] er> i figure if I have to tell someone about 'uberminimalistic WM X' chances are they don't want it or they'd have found it ;)
[08:15] <Razor-X> that's why if I start using the mouse, I don't want to use the keyboard again for a while
[08:15] <Madpilot> !tell h4zn__ about wma
[08:15] <Razor-X> s/most/more
[08:16] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: it doesen't look like the dark ages at all, though, I can show you a screenshot
[08:16] <aftertaf> screen for X? cool :)
[08:16] <Razor-X> and also, after an all-nighter, using the mouse cramps up my wrist
[08:16] <sampan> yes, screenshots are always good
[08:16] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: i think i'm content with gnome or Xfce ;)
[08:16] <Razor-X> aftertaf: I knew _someone_ was interested :P
[08:16] <aftertaf> loool
[08:16] <bur[n] er> http://burner.ath.cx/Screenshot.png <--my screenie as of a couple minutes ago :)
[08:16] <Razor-X> or rather, the trackball, the mouse makes my wrist double-over in pain during all-nighters
[08:17] <Razor-X> http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png and http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison-conkeror.png
[08:17] <Razor-X> I also have a picture of a split frame
[08:17] <sampan> trackball has saved my wrist from CTS big time
[08:17] <Razor-X> i'm 15, I don't want RSI already -_-
[08:17] <rempresent> okay guys, i have a jem you all have to check out
[08:18] <aftertaf> omg another kid :)
[08:18] <aftertaf> ;)
[08:18] <Madpilot> Razor-X: how can you type with that hi-contrast backdrop and a transparent terminal?
[08:18] <bur[n] er> heh, lil too minimal for me Razor-X
[08:18] <rempresent> go to: http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2005/10/14/thing-a-week-5-baby-got-back/ and download the "baby got back" cover
[08:18] <bur[n] er> can't believe you use that
[08:18] <PapPitufo> Razor-X: here is what I want to do in Gnome http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kdequickbrowser4ln.jpg
[08:18] <bur[n] er> heh
[08:18] <flozilum> could someone recommend me a decent mp3 ripping app?
[08:18] <Amaranth> rempresent: ...
[08:19] <rempresent> it is a baby got back by a folk singer
[08:19] <PapPitufo> Razor-X: you think ratpoison has that?
[08:19] <nentis> flozilum: grip
[08:19] <palki__> Hello does the newest ubuntu work on 2005 powerbooks ? I know there were issues with trackpad and sound in the last version ?
[08:19] <rempresent> it rules
[08:19] <bur[n] er> PapPitufo: i know you can do that in fluxbox
[08:19] <Amaranth> flozilum: sound juicer can rip to mp3 with a settings change
[08:19] <aftertaf> Razor-X:  dunno if im ready for that type of WM.... a bit too minimal for me.
[08:19] <nalioth> flozilum: grip
[08:19] <sn9> palki__: last i heard trackpad still doesn't work
[08:19] <flozilum> nentis: sj takes forever
[08:19] <bur[n] er> sound juicer is crap... featureless as compared with grip
[08:19] <Razor-X> Madpilot: hahahaha
[08:19] <cafuego_> palki__: Not sure, I _do_ know the 2.6.14-rc4 kernel has a specific apple trackpad kernel driver now.
[08:19] <Razor-X> Madpilot: that's not a transparent terminal :P
[08:20] <nentis> flozilum: I didn't recommend sj. :)  I said 'grip'.
[08:20] <Razor-X> Madpilot: that's a solid terminal with a background image
[08:20] <cafuego_> palki__: For what it's worth, the trackpad on the 2005 iBook works fine using the PPC LiveCD.
[08:20] <flozilum> nentis: yeah - didn't realize what i typed
[08:20] <sn9> palki__: wait for dapper drake
[08:20] <Madpilot> Razor-X: still... don't you find the text fading back into the background?
[08:20] <Razor-X> Madpilot: on occasion
[08:20] <palki__> cafuego_ thanks. that is quite promising.
[08:21] <PapPitufo> bur[n] er: fluxbox can? you sure?
[08:21] <Razor-X> Madpilot: it's not very annoying, it odes get annoying at times though
[08:21] <rlozier> jl
[08:21] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: SJ now plays and rips CDs...
[08:21] <cafuego_> palki__: The airport extreme won't work though. (But someone is working on a driver!)
[08:21] <Razor-X> Madpilot: I do my homework generally in the lower half of my screen, an IRC channel or terminal hogs my upper half
[08:21] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: still no options about bitrate
[08:21] <agt> Can someone help me with mounting a firewire iPod on Breezy?
[08:21] <bur[n] er> PapPitufo: well... i think so, it's been ages since I've used it
[08:21] <ethy> What's the command for restarting hotplug?
[08:22] <Razor-X> aftertaf: DR17 looks nice, but, it has to many quirks for me
[08:22] <flozilum> nentis: still new to ubuntu - apt-get install grip ?
[08:22] <sn9> agt: just plug it in
[08:22] <ethy> "sudo /etc/init.d/something restart" right? What's that "something"?
[08:22] <Razor-X> aftertaf: for a nice, solid, and small WM, i'll stick with XFce any day
[08:22] <rlozier> has anyone successfully installed half life 2 under breezy?
[08:22] <sn9> ethy: hotplug
[08:22] <Madpilot> Razor-X: ah, OK. I run gnome terminal semi-transparent, but had to put a greyed-out translucent layer over things to get the text readable...
[08:22] <bur[n] er> flozilum: or use synaptic
[08:22] <ethy> sn9: Ooo... haha thanks!
[08:22] <agt> sn9, its not recognised. Doesn't appear on desktop
[08:22] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: SJ is in the middle of ripping something for me, but I think it now has bitrate options
[08:22] <Razor-X> Madpilot: can't stand transparent terminals, meself :P
[08:23] <flozilum> bur[n] er: differences?
[08:23] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: i'm opening to see :)
[08:23] <sn9> agt: does it appear in the Computer window in the Places menu?
[08:23] <bur[n] er> flozilum: synaptic is a gui
[08:23] <flozilum> bur[n] er: to grip
[08:23] <Razor-X> Madpilot: nice thing about erc is that, it doesen't use anything much past the `s' in ``Vash''
[08:23] <Razor-X> Madpilot: and I use the bottom half for homework, so it all works out
[08:24] <agt> sn9, I have floppy, cd drive and filesystem showing, no ipod. the ipod also doesn't come up with the 'do not disconnect' msg
[08:24] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: no "easy" way to edit bitrate... just complicated profiles... furthermore, I can't even freeform how tracks should be named...  I like "artist - track# - song.mp3"
[08:24] <h4zn__> root@ubuntu:~ # sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:24] <h4zn__> (gedit:7693): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:24] <h4zn__> 0
[08:24] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: dont' be root when you type "sudo" :P
[08:25] <h4zn__> okay
[08:25] <enyc> 0000
[08:25] <sn9> agt: odd. do other firewire devices work?
[08:25] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: alt+f2 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[08:25] <flozilum> bur[n] er: got it
[08:26] <monstah> hello.. i can't get my battery monitor to work.. why does it show AC-Power when it's on battery?
[08:26] <agt> sn9, I don't have any other firewire devices. it worked in windows yesterday. it worked in hoary, not in this new install of breezy.
[08:26] <sn9> agt: does gtkpod see the ipod?
[08:27] <agt> sn9,  haven't tried that. apt-getting it now
[08:27] <h4zn__> bur[n] er, ...it says that i can not save it
[08:27] <Hmmmm> hi guys iv just installed breezy, and im facing some problem accessing the network
[08:27] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: using gksudo?
[08:27] <sn9> Hmmmm: Hmmmm
[08:27] <h4zn__> yes
[08:27] <dabaR> Hmmmm: youre gonna tell us more, right?
[08:28] <h4zn__> just like you told me
[08:28] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: was it already open?
[08:28] <h4zn__> no
[08:28] <bur[n] er> and it prompted you for password right?
[08:28] <h4zn__> yes
[08:28] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: is synaptic open?
[08:28] <agt> sn9,  '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[08:28] <Hmmmm> dabaR, well its a windows network
[08:28] <h4zn__> yes
[08:28] <agt> sn9,  no /media/ipod dir either
[08:28] <Hmmmm> i could access it perfectly using hoary
[08:28] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: that's yoru problem, can't edit sources.list with syaptic open unless you do it from synaptic
[08:29] <h4zn__> okay
[08:29] <Hmmmm> i can acess the network using linneighborhood, but not through nautilus
[08:29] <sn9> agt: try typing: sudo modprobe sbp-2
[08:29] <aftertaf> Hmmmm:  setup IP correctly, test ping.... then setup samba client to access the workgroup/domain
[08:29] <bur[n] er> Hmmmm: smb:/pcname work?
[08:29] <dabaR> Hmmmm: do you know what protocol you use? like DHCP?
[08:29] <aftertaf> Hmmmm:  ok.
[08:29] <dabaR> Hmmmm: you can get online?
[08:29] <Hmmmm> smb:/pcname works for some machines
[08:30] <Hmmmm> i can get online
[08:30] <agt> sn9, FATAL: Module sbp_2 not found. (!)
[08:30] <PapPitufo> bye
[08:30] <Hmmmm> i can scp/ssh/ping/bwose the web/mail...
[08:30] <Hmmmm> im on a static ip, not dhcp
[08:30] <bur[n] er> Hmmmm: and 'some' machiens have firewalls? ;)
[08:30] <sn9> agt: oops leave out the -
[08:30] <Hmmmm> aftertaf, how do i setup samba?
[08:30] <aftertaf> any blocked pcs on network?
[08:30] <Hmmmm> smb.conf?
[08:31] <brandoo> hello
[08:31] <zrothe> im trying to install a .deb package and its telling me conflicting packages...how do I find which are conflicting w/ it
[08:31] <Hmmmm> bur[n] er, no firewalls internallly
[08:31] <aftertaf> Hmmmm:  yep, or via gui in gnome.... look around in control center
[08:31] <agt> sn9, that worked, no messages back
[08:31] <aftertaf> Hmmmm:  all machines with same m$ os?
[08:31] <h4zn__> bur[n] er, ...closed it...retried and i still cant do itt
[08:31] <Hmmmm> after ok i'll take a look
[08:31] <brandoo> anyone know how to fix this?
[08:31] <brandoo> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[08:31] <brandoo> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2".
[08:31] <sn9> agt: unplug and replug the ipod now
[08:31] <aftertaf> brandoo:  what are you compiling?
[08:32] <brandoo> vmware
[08:32] <johntramp> hey can anyone tell me how to get rid of those damn thumbs.db files?
[08:32] <aftertaf> oh, ok. no idea.
[08:32] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: try just doing "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" from a term
[08:32] <aftertaf> johntramp:  delete button ;)
[08:32] <johntramp> is there something like rm -f `find -iname thumbs.db .`
[08:32] <bur[n] er> h4zn__: no reason gksudo shouldn't work though
[08:32] <dooglus> johntramp: find -name thumbs.db | while read x; do rm "$x"; done
[08:32] <aftertaf> johntramp:  sorry, being clever ;)
[08:33] <johntramp> dooglus, thanks
[08:33] <dooglus> johntramp: your `` won't work if directories have spaces in their names, or if you have a lot of thumbs.db files
[08:33] <agt> sn9, no good
[08:33] <johntramp> aftertaf, no thanks ;)
[08:33] <aftertaf> =)
[08:33] <johntramp> dooglus, ok
[08:34] <dooglus> johntramp: see also "man xargs" if you're interested
[08:34] <dabaR> I have a 10.9 GB root partition, and home is separate. The root partition is full, which is not to be believed as proper. What can I do to clean up a little bit?
[08:34] <bimberi> brandoo: install the gcc-3.4 package, then "export CC=usr/bin/gcc-3.4" and retry the compile
[08:34] <bur[n] er> dabaR: apt-get clean
[08:35] <johntramp> dooglus, cheers.      Is there any reason it could be dangerous to run this as a cron job?
[08:35] <dooglus> johntramp: something like "find -name thumbs.db -print0 | xargs -0 rm" (but that's not tested)
[08:35] <dabaR> bur[n] er: nothing.
[08:35] <bliggy> hello... if anyone can assist me with my problem it would be much appreciated... heres a running thread with all the data: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=419029#post419029
[08:35] <dabaR> bur[n] er: so I really have that many packages installed properly?
[08:36] <Razor-X> if you use xzgv, give a shout out! :P
[08:36] <dabaR> bliggy: and for all of you in console through irssi...:P
[08:36] <sn9> agt: can you pastebin or pm me an lsmod?
[08:36] <dooglus> johntramp: the only 2 reasons I can think of are (1) it deletes files (but it's unlikely anything useful will be called thumbs.db) and (2) it slows things down (so if you're playing a game it will get choppy while the file runs)
[08:36] <Razor-X> or at least, tab-complete my name and say ``I'' :P
[08:36] <bur[n] er> dabaR: apt-get clean just cleans out the cache so to speak
[08:36] <bliggy> :D
[08:36] <bur[n] er> dabaR: df -h after doign the clean
[08:36] <dabaR> I cleaned that out myself already. Anything else? I heard about some deborphan something:)
[08:37] <Razor-X> meh, i'm alone in my tastes
[08:37] <johntramp> dooglus,  locate -i thumbs.db | while read x; do rm "$x"; done  worked a charm.  Thanks
[08:37] <rempresent> i have a broken package to fix, how do i go about doing that
[08:37] <dooglus> johntramp: it's a little slower than the xargs solution, that's all
[08:38] <agt> sn9, used the pastebin - thx
[08:38] <dooglus> johntramp: also, you're running this on a FAT partition I guess?
[08:38] <sn9> agt: url?
[08:38] <agt> sn9, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3222
[08:38] <bliggy> oops... i see i posted the wrong URL... lemme correct that
[08:39] <bliggy> hello... if anyone can assist me with my problem it would be much appreciated... heres a running thread with all the data: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904
[08:39] <bliggy> :D
[08:39] <indypende> with breezy i have'nt to modify the esd.conf. It's true?
[08:39] <pef> hello
[08:39] <brandoo> thanks aftertaf
[08:39] <johntramp> dooglus, well I get videos etc. off mates on a external harddrive and it gets fill of those files
[08:40] <johntramp> dooglus, which is fat32, yes
[08:40] <dooglus> dabaR: how about this:  "du -kx / | sort -n | tail -100" - that will show you the 100 biggest dirs...
[08:40] <brandoo> Although it sux having to use VMWare only cos Firefox+java+Flash don't work well :/
[08:40] <sn9> agt: load the raw1394 module. if that works, put it in /etc/modules
[08:41] <indypende> with breezy i have'nt to modify the esd.conf. It's true?
[08:41] <agt> sn9, is that 'modprobe raw1394'?
[08:41] <sn9> agt: with sudo, yes
[08:42] <salutis> i am problem with evolution. i have backup of my old .evolution directory, but if i copy this folder in my new breezy my contact list is empty
[08:42] <dabaR> ubuntu-base is a metapackage?
[08:43] <Razor-X> what programs do you guys use to take screenshots?
[08:43] <Razor-X> I use xwd, any suggestions?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: import
[08:44] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: i've heard that's nice
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> Razor-X, System -> take screen shot ?
[08:44] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: part of ImageMagick, no?
[08:44] <Razor-X> wickedpuppy: meh :P
[08:44] <agt> sn9, right i've done a 'sudo modprobe raw1394', and i've added raw1394 to the end of modules
[08:44] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: could be, i forget, but i've used it for years
[08:44] <dooglus> dabaR: to see the files in a package, run "dpkg -L ubuntu-base"
[08:44] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: any special features it has?
[08:44] <dooglus> dabaR: you'll see that ubuntu-base is pretty much emtpy
[08:44] <dooglus> ie. a meta package
[08:44] <sn9> agt: so, it worked?
[08:45] <Coz> Hello all
[08:45] <dabaR> k
[08:45] <ubuntu_user1111> i'm looking for a visual programing software.. enyone? :}
[08:45] <dooglus> dabaR: then run "apt-cache show ubuntu-base | grep Depends" to see what it depends on.
[08:45] <Coz>  I would like to know if any of you would know how to create a keyboard shortcut to CLOSE a cd tray?
[08:45] <agt> sn9, sorry, nope. unplugging and replugging doesn't work
[08:45] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: I simply use ``xwd -root -out foo.xwd & convert foo.xwd foo.png''
[08:45] <brandoo> can someone go to a flash site for me to see if they have the same response as me?
[08:45] <dooglus> dabaR: you'll see it depends on 2 more meta-packages!
[08:46] <liable> Coz: hrm, whats the command to do it from command line?
[08:46] <sn9> agt: can you access /dev/sda ?
[08:46] <mustard5> can someone give me that sudo dpkg reconfigure command for xorg again?
[08:46] <Coz> I don'tknow the command for this trhat's why I was asking
[08:46] <mustard5> I'm on bitchx trying to get to X :D
[08:46] <sn9> mustard5: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <mustard5> thanks sn9
[08:46] <liable> !drxx mustard5
[08:46] <ubotu> liable: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:47] <aftertaf> ubuntu_user1111:  eclipse
[08:47] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: import window -root blah.png
[08:47] <agt> sn9, how do i do that?
[08:47] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: or import window -root blah.jpg
[08:47] <ubuntu_user1111> ok, i'll give it a go, ty !!
[08:47] <dabaR> whats a visual programming software?
[08:47] <Coz> has oanyone gotten .mid files to play on Ubuntu?
[08:48] <sn9> agt: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null count=1
[08:48] <dooglus> Razor-X: you can just press SysRq to take a screenshot
[08:48] <dooglus> (in GNOME)
[08:48] <Coz> with what appp and what didi you do to get ito play?
[08:48] <bur[n] er> dooglus: he uses ratpoison ;)
[08:48] <bur[n] er> Coz: xmms
[08:48] <dooglus> bur[n] er: ok.
[08:48] <dooglus> ratpoison makes my pinky hurt
[08:48] <Coz> xmms does not play midi on ubuntu just by installin git
[08:49] <dooglus> control-t isn't easy to type very option
[08:49] <Coz> not on my system anyway
[08:49] <bur[n] er> Coz: let me double-check I still can in breezy
[08:49] <agt> sn9, 1+0 records in, 1+0 records out, 512 bytes t/ferred
[08:49] <Coz> I got my dvd 's to play in breezy after a week of trial and eror
[08:49] <Coz> but midi is giving a ruff time of it
[08:50] <dabaR> Is it safe to remove a 2.6 kernel image?
[08:50] <liable> !CMD: drxx (.*?) is ?1: <reply> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:50] <sn9> agt: ok. looks like it's seeing the ipod after all, unless you have other scsi or usb disks
[08:50] <bur[n] er> Coz: i can't play it either... sorry
[08:50] <liable> !hi
[08:50] <ubotu> liable: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:50] <Coz> That's what I thought
[08:50] <agt> sn9, my hard drive is a sata
[08:51] <agt> sn9, mounted on sda1
[08:51] <Coz>  DVD's do not play by default because of licensing I know that would not be the case with midi
[08:51] <liable> ubotu: CMD: drxx (.*?) is ?1: <reply> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:51] <ubotu> liable: okay
[08:51] <liable> !drxx liable
[08:51] <ubotu> liable: No idea
[08:51] <bur[n] er> Coz: i tried vlc, bmp, xmms, rhythmbox
[08:51] <sn9> agt: my mistake then. do the dd again with sdb instead of sda
[08:51] <Coz> has anyone gotten midi to play on Ubuntu?
[08:51] <agt> sn9,  no such file or dir
[08:52] <bur[n] er> Coz: have you got .mmf files to play by chance?
[08:52] <Coz> all those apps DO NOT play mdid on UBuntu there are some things missing and I am trying to find out what they are
[08:52] <sn9> agt: you don't have a /dev/sdb file?
[08:52] <aftertaf> dabaR:  yes, you tidying up? you can get rid of some... but leave one ;)     good idea to leave the latest i386 too, lets you boot on all pcs more or less if need be.
[08:52] <Coz> .mmf I am not familair with
[08:52] <agt> sn9, sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null count=1
[08:52] <agt> dd: opening `/dev/sdb': No such file or directory
[08:53] <DJ_Mirage> [08:51]  <Coz> has anyone gotten midi to play on Ubuntu?
[08:53] <DJ_Mirage> yeap
[08:53] <Coz> how did you do it?
[08:53] <DJ_Mirage> i just got all gstreamer plugs
[08:53] <bur[n] er> Coz: .mmf is just another ringtone thing... in any event, there are lots of midi apps in universe
[08:53] <Coz> I have all of them as well it still is ano go
[08:54] <sn9> agt: what does dmesg | tail say?
[08:54] <brandoo> Anyone know about the Firefox bug in Ubuntu?
[08:54] <Coz> what is the bug?
[08:54] <Burgundavia> brandoo, what Firefox bug?
[08:54] <bur[n] er> Coz: u have gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse?
[08:54] <Coz> yes I have those just installed them today actually neccessary to play dvd's
[08:55] <brandoo> Burgundavia, when I got to search in the google search thingy it keeps adding to the previous search
[08:55] <bur[n] er> not necessary for dvd ;)
[08:55] <brandoo> ie. if I search for linux
[08:55] <agt> sn9, a whole lot of ieee1394 node changed and node resumes msgs - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3223
[08:55] <Coz> OK none the less midi still won't play
[08:56] <Coz>  I have tried all the apps none work with it
[08:56] <brandoo> and then try search for butterfly it'll actually search for linux butterfly
[08:56] <Coz> VLC is generally what I prefer on all OS but even that won't do it
[08:56] <brandoo> then if I search again it'll add on and on and on
[08:56] <liable> !drxx liable
[08:56] <ubotu> liable: What?
[08:56] <liable> meh.
[08:56] <dabaR>  Lets play teach the bot in PM:P
[08:57] <lemics_> lol
[08:57] <bur[n] er> Coz: if you do find out, please let me know, i'd be interested
[08:57] <Coz> OK with me but I have been trying for week now
[08:57] <liable> dabaR: thats what i have been doing ktnx
[08:57] <bliggy> if anyone can assist me with my problem it would be much appreciated... heres a running thread with all the data: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904
[08:58] <Coz>  after getting all the dvd elements installed I hae made a decision no to go back to BeOS
[08:58] <topyli> brandoo: is that a bug? if it looks like a usability bug to you, you should file it in the mozilla bugzilla. first check of course if there is a bug about that already
[08:58] <PhoenixDestroyed> #ubuntu channel
[08:59] <agt> sn9, I've updated that pastebin posting with the whole of dmesg
[08:59] <dabaR> liable: lets play test what we taught the bot in PM:P
[08:59] <bur[n] er> Coz: if I find out, i'll hunt ya down ;)
[08:59] <Coz> sounds good and I would truly be greateful
[08:59] <PhoenixDestroyed> Whats a good channel for a relative newbie who wans to know how to change the grub boot splash screen
[09:00] <liable> dabaR: bite me? :P
[09:00] <Coz> I have found little wrong with Ubuntu Breezy final
[09:00] <Coz> No bugs yets, no conflicts and everything works well
[09:00] <bur[n] er> Coz: check out pmidi
[09:00] <bur[n] er> it's command line, but will work :\
[09:00] <Coz> I tried that
[09:00] <topyli> brandoo: google's own search field works the same way after all, and i prefer it like that. i search for linux, and get lots of hits. then i refine my search by appending ubuntu to the search and get better results. then i add still something and so on
[09:00] <bur[n] er> didn't work fro you?!?!?
[09:00] <Coz> NOPE
[09:00] <bur[n] er> Coz: bugzilla.ubuntu.com ;)
[09:01] <Coz> I can try that
[09:01] <Coz>  I am hoping that midi is somehow related to the legal licensing issues that the dvd had
[09:01] <Coz> That's why dvd does work by defualt
[09:01] <bur[n] er> Coz: tried timidity?
[09:01] <Coz>  but midi, I am not sure
[09:02] <Coz> timidity yes tried that also
[09:02] <mustard5> when firestarter is running without a gui, (starts on dial-out setting on), how can I check if it is running via the command line?
[09:02] <bur[n] er> even still, there should be a gstreamer plugin for midi or something
[09:02] <PhoenixDestroyed> Anyone have any idea's on how to change the grub splash screen
[09:02] <sampan> mustard5  ps -aux | grep firestarter  ?
[09:02] <Coz> seems that way but which one is the question if it is that
[09:02] <mustard5> thanx sampan
[09:02] <dabaR> PhoenixDestroyed: there is a wiki page on that.
[09:02] <mustard5> ill try
[09:02] <sampan> sure :)  had to do that myself many times ;)
[09:02] <bur[n] er> https://launchpad.net/bounties/gstreamer-midi  <--looks like midi is sought after ;)
[09:03] <Coz> i am seeing that alot of you have problems with this Ubuntu
[09:03] <topyli> mustard5: it's not running. it just applies the firewall rules at startup and exits.
[09:03] <Coz> are you guys upgrading or something?
[09:03] <sn9> agt: did you boot with the ipod plugged in by any chance?
[09:03] <topyli> mustard5: you can check your firewall by running iptables -L
[09:03] <agt> sn9, yep
[09:03] <calvin_> what is the command line to install a bin file?
[09:04] <liable> calvin_: err what bin file?
[09:04] <sampan> topyli, you sure?  i have mine set to put an icon in my system tray, and it's running as a process
[09:04] <sn9> agt: that could be the problem. to recover, unplug it, unload the sbp2 module, and reload the sbp2 module
[09:04] <calvin_> it's java that I downloaded for my browser
[09:04] <mustard5> thanks topyli
[09:04] <topyli> sampan: well yes, the gui is a process. the firewall is not
[09:04] <Coz> I am going to se if I can find something on the net about midi and Ubuntu Be back
[09:05] <sampan> well there are two entries (besides the grep process) when i do that ps -aux | grep firestarter
[09:05] <Xyc0> Anyone figure out a quick way to install Java and Azureus
[09:06] <Xyc0> On breezy i mean
[09:06] <calvin_> liable: it's a file I downloaded to install java
[09:06] <liable> !java
[09:06] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[09:06] <liable> Xyc0: calvin_ ^^
[09:06] <mustard5> topyli, well that explains why I could never find it via system monitor :)
[09:07] <DemisM> what are the main differences between edubuntu and ubuntu?
[09:07] <topyli> sampan: i have none. when i do iptables -L i see the firewall rules i have set with firestarter
[09:07] <agt> sn9, OK I did a 'sudo modprobe -r sbp2' and then a 'sudo modprobe sbp2', both with iPod unplugged. then plugged it in again but no luck...
[09:08] <mustard5> sampan your command gave me an error and some output about firestarter afterwards, which I didnt know how to interpret..if you hop in #flood I'll paste the lines if you want
[09:08] <sampan> topyli, hmmmm ... i wonder what that second process is?  lol -- i must say, i always wondered the same thing as topyli -- at least, before i had it bring up the icon in the tray
[09:08] <DemisM> does ubuntu still come without any of the video/mp3 support?
[09:08] <topyli> sampan: you see, normally linux firewalls are set with a startup script and that's it. the gui thingies are a fairly recent invention to soothe the minds of windows refugees who are used to seeing their "firewalls" :)
[09:09] <sampan> lol i plead guilty to being a refugee! ;x  though, i do like to see the hits just out of a sick sense of amusement
[09:09] <topyli> sampan: after all, it's just a set of rules for the kernel netfilter
[09:10] <topyli> sampan: normally wee look at the logs and grep for suspicious hits from the previous hour/day/week
[09:11] <dabaR> Does anyone like what the default breezy usplash looks like?
[09:11] <sampan> *nod* -- i guess i just waste time by looking at the silly icon flashing red every time one comes in; instead of looking at text logs
[09:11] <sampan> eye candy attraction again i suppose
[09:11] <dooglus> topyli: are you familiar with 'fragrouter -M2'?  can it really defeat the Linux firewall?
[09:12] <topyli> sampan: it's red constantly isn't it :)
[09:12] <topyli> dooglus: no, i don't know it
[09:12] <rempresent> this is really weird, i can't get the backport repositories to clear, it says that i can't download or sync up the packages?
[09:12] <bliggy> [spam] if anyone can assist me with my problem it would be much appreciated... heres a running thread with all the data: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904[/spam]
[09:12] <dooglus> topyli: fragrouter is in universe
[09:12] <topyli> looking at the man page
[09:12] <dooglus> topyli: apparently it breaks packets up into little packets so the firewall doesn't notice them (?!)
[09:13] <sn9> agt: have you tried forced disk mode?
[09:13] <rempresent> anyone else have this problem with the backports, do i need to get an authentic key
[09:14] <agt> sn9, hmmm whats that
[09:14] <Madpilot> rempresent: which backports?
[09:14] <Sirrush> Hello Everyone
[09:14] <sampan> topyli, yeah pretty much!  one time last week i must have been assigned an ip that someone had just been bittorrenting with -- holy crap, like 3000 hits per hour all on 6681
[09:14] <sampan> err 6881*
[09:14] <sn9> agt: that's when you first reset by holding play/pause for 3 secs and then hold rewind and ff together for 15 secs
[09:15] <bbj> Help please - Where is information about how to play mpeg files?  Clicking on one brings up "Totem media player" error "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, install plugins", but the help file has no info about installing plugins.
[09:15] <topyli> dooglus: seems to me it's more about fooling detection tools like snort. if you have no open ports, then you don't. if you open a port for a service, then it'
[09:15] <topyli> s open. simple as that
[09:15] <agabus> i wish to multi-boot ubuntu and xp on my new laptop. could someone please advise me whether to install linux or windows first? and how to partition properly?
[09:15] <marlijs> howto install nvidia driver for k7 kernel in breezy?
[09:16] <aftertaf> marlijs:  install the linux-restricted-modules-k7 package, then change x driver to nvidia and restart X
[09:16] <topyli> dooglus: anyway, firewall is not something to rely on for security. just keep your system, especially services, up to date
[09:16] <sampan> so topyli, firestarter is set to come up on boot or right after my pppoe connection is established.  if (hypothetically) it failed, would sudo iptables -L give no output?
[09:16] <kestas> agabus, install windows first, use about 2/3 the hdd
[09:16] <kestas> agabus, then install ubuntu, use 1 gb for swap and the rest for the root partition
[09:17] <sampan> i guess i'm just paranoid about -knowing- that it's running (again, probably due to my windwos experience of being so vulnerable)
[09:17] <marlijs> this is what I did, and it broked X
[09:17] <topyli> sampan: that's right. or perhaps it would say something like ACCEPT (ALL) (ALL) or something, i don't remember iptables syntax
[09:17] <Sirrush> Windows first Ubuntu is very dual boot friendly
[09:17] <agabus> kestas - how do u suggest i go about using 2/3 of my hdd for windows? partition magic? and when installing ubuntu how do i set the 1 gig for swap?
[09:17] <agt> sn9, have done that now while the ipod is plugged in, i'm in diskmode but it says ok to disconnect
[09:17] <sampan> topyli, k -- thanks a bunch :)  that has cleared up a lot of confusion for me
[09:17] <aftertaf> marlijs:  what is the error when x fails?
[09:17] <dooglus> topyli: I guess also it's for defeating ip based filters.  what if I have the sshd port open, but only for 1 ip address.
[09:17] <kestas> agabus, when installing windows you can select how much of the hdd you want to use
[09:18] <kestas> agabus, and the same with ubuntu
[09:18] <marlijs> nvidia driver and x has different versions
[09:18] <sn9> agt: now try unloading and reloading sbp2
[09:18] <topyli> sampan: just turned off my firewall and it reports an all-accept policy quite clearly
[09:18] <Xyc0> Just so you know, the Restricted format page is outdated for breezy
[09:18] <aftertaf> marlijs:  did you install the right restricted package? and did you remove the NVIDIA binaries (if installed with sh NVIDIAXX.XX.XX.run ?)
[09:19] <sampan> topyli, excellent -- that's easy to check then and i can remove that little red button that proves such a time waster!
[09:19] <guillem101> hi! can I upgrade to horay but without upgrading to gcc-4?
[09:19] <rempresent> the repositories that come with ubuntu, i can't install regular dvd codecs, from the wiki faq
[09:19] <bbj> How are plugins installed for mpeg video for totem meda player?
[09:19] <aftertaf> marlijs:  is this an upgrade from hoary?
[09:19] <rempresent> they say to get two packages, and it is like gstreamer-multi and msttcorefonts, i can't get either of those
[09:19] <guillem101> sorry, I meant breezy :-P
[09:19] <sn9> bbj: pkg name is gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:19] <rempresent> i think it is because i don't have multiverse
[09:19] <marlijs> aftertaf:  yes upgr. from hoary, and package was right
[09:19] <aftertaf> !multiverse
[09:19] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[09:19] <dooglus> sampan: the firewall doesn't really "run" in the sense that windows firewalls run.  you set it up and leave it.
[09:20] <aftertaf> !tell rempresent about repositories
[09:20] <agt> sn9, no good - unplugged ipod, unloaded and reloaded, and plugged in, no recognition :|
[09:20] <sn9> agt: is it still in disk mode?
[09:20] <aftertaf> marlijs:  did you use the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website before your upgrade?
[09:20] <Dano> Hi, i want some tip on a good sip client for ubuntu..
[09:20] <agt> sn9, I installed ubuntu with the iPod plugged in the whole time, could that cause any problems?
[09:20] <ethy> I'm experiencing stuttering when using playing WMV files, I have the w32codecs and using Mplayer, anybody have any idea on the fix?
[09:20] <agt> sn9, yes still in disk mode with a big tick
[09:20] <sn9> agt: unlikely
[09:20] <SpiderMan> has anybody done the upgrade from hoary to breezy ?
[09:20] <dooglus> ethy: use OSS instead of ALSA?
[09:21] <marlijs> aftertaf: no, just nvidia-glx
[09:21] <dooglus> ethy: ie. mplayer -ao oss <file>
[09:21] <sn9> agt: but it says OK to disconnect?
[09:21] <agt> Yeah
[09:21] <marlijs> aftertaf: does nvidia-glx package work with k7 kernel either?
[09:22] <aftertaf> marlijs:  ok.... you have linux-k7 package instaled?
[09:22] <bbj> sn9: Thanks
[09:22] <agt> sn9, yes it says ok to disconnect
[09:22] <salutis> i am problem with evolution. i have backup of my old .evolution directory, but if i copy this my home folder in my new breezy installation my contact list is empty
[09:22] <marlijs> aftertaf: yes
[09:22] <sampan> dooglus, yeah that's what i'm finally understanding -- although, having the gui running does let me change policy very easily on the fly -- but it's not hard to run the GUI for firestarter when i need to do that
[09:22] <topyli> dooglus: about the host-specific port opening i don't know. i open ssh to the world. who knows where i'm at when i want to log on? :)
[09:22] <ethy> dooglus: Woot, that fixed it, thanks a bunch!
[09:23] <sn9> agt: and unloading and reloading with it plugged in didn't help?
[09:23] <dooglus> ethy: weird, isn't it.
[09:23] <aftertaf> marlijs:  type this in console::    sudo apt-get install  linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7     does it actually install anything?
[09:23] <dooglus> ethy: the problem is, if I use OSS instead of ALSA, only one program can play sound at once - so I no longer hear mail alerts, or gaim alerts
[09:23] <agt> sn9, that didn't help either
[09:24] <firestorm> Howdy. When I run apt-get update I need to have my http_proxy env variable set. I have this in /etc/profile but that isn't sourced upon startup. Any hints as to how I should tell apt to use my http_proxy or otherwise get /etc/profile sourced on startup?
[09:24] <dooglus> aftertaf: linux-k7 depends on linux-restricted-modules-k7 anyway
[09:24] <nnonix> sampan: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php#trayicon
[09:24] <marlijs> aftertaf: i have them already? But the qusetion is if I will make clean breezy install, does nvidia-glx will work with k7 kernel?
[09:25] <ethy> dooglus: Ooo... well I have my GAIM prompt sound disabled and uninstalled Evolution since I only use web-based mail. I've had the problem for a while now, never tend to it since I was trying to fix bigger problems, never knew it's just change the codec.
[09:25] <sn9> agt: try rebooting with the ipod plugged in and in disk mode
[09:25] <agt> sn9, OK. Thanks man
[09:25] <ethy> dooglus: I had the same problem with video not be able to resize, e.g. when I try to double the screen size, only the window doubles instead of the picture, fixed that with change the codec to XV.
[09:25] <dooglus> firestorm: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh is sourced at boot time
[09:26] <sampan> nnonix, yep -- that's the process i was seeing -- but i always assumed that if i didn't have that process (the GUI/icon) running that the firewall had stopped, which it had, but it had done its job already
[09:26] <dooglus> ethy: it's not a codec change, it's a sound system change
[09:26] <sampan> if i need to change policy, i can just start it from the cli
[09:26] <dooglus> ethy: right.  i use xv too
[09:26] <ethy> dooglus: Ah.
[09:26] <firestorm> dooglus: thanks
[09:27] <dooglus> firestorm: but... you can set a proxy using system->admin->network-proxy
[09:27] <ethy> dooglus: What's the IEC958 switch in the Volume Control does?
[09:27] <nnonix> sampan: great. Additionally, the icon turns red when events have occurred. Nice indicator of blocked activity.
[09:27] <dooglus> sorry.  system->prefs->network-proxy
[09:27] <dooglus> ethy: I don't know
[09:28] <aftertaf> marlijs:  yes it works ok.....
[09:28] <locomorto> Does anyone know if the OO2 rc3 download (for linux of course) is a rpm?
[09:28] <sampan> nnonix, yep -- it's mesmerizing how often that little guy lights up :X
[09:28] <firestorm> dougsko: where is hte 'system' menu? within synaptic or a gnome thing?
[09:28] <agt> sn9, ubuntu recognises it :)
[09:28] <firestorm> Also, how can I disable the annoying beep for my terminals? I tried 'set nobeep' but that didn't seem to work
[09:28] <ethy> dooglus: Ah okay. Hm... you happen to know how do I check if my DirectDraw is working properly?
[09:28] <stimpie> how do I enable mp3 support on ubuntu x86_64?
[09:29] <dooglus> firestorm: in GNOME, the system menu is in the top left corner
[09:29] <firestorm> dooglus: ahhh...using KDE :)
[09:29] <dooglus> ethy: nope :)
[09:30] <dooglus> firestorm: the command is 'gnome-network-preferences' - but I don't know if that will work in KDE...
[09:30] <ethy> dooglus: Haha well thanks for your help!
[09:30] <_native_> The  Gnome networking applet should write its setttings to resolv.conf right?
[09:31] <dooglus> _native_: /etc/network/interfaces I think?
[09:31] <firestorm> dooglus: yup that works..thanks :)
[09:32] <_native_> because when changing the gateway address it does not take effect i have to edit resolv.conf manually. this started today.
[09:33] <SpiderMan> has anybody done the upgrade from hoary to breezy ?
[09:33] <dooglus> SpiderMan: lots of people, yes
[09:33] <aftertaf> SpiderMan:  loads of us
[09:33] <firestorm> SpiderMan: yup did it on 2 machines...one was reasonably smooth, the other had X11 break badly
[09:33] <_native_> or i mean the nameserver address in resolv.conf does not get updated when using the gnome networking applet
[09:33] <firestorm> how can I disable the annoying beep for my terminals? I tried 'set nobeep' but that didn't seem to work
[09:34] <dooglus> firestorm: what kind of terminals?
[09:34] <aftertaf> _native_:  try : sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:34] <minuscipher> ok im a total noob to linux
[09:34] <firestorm> dooglus: xterm and konsole
[09:34] <dlf> is there a locate util in ubuntu, i need to set my to swedish
[09:34] <minuscipher> can anyone tell me how to install a progran
[09:34] <dooglus> firestorm: for konsole you might try asking in #kubuntu
[09:34] <minuscipher> prgram*
[09:34] <aftertaf> minuscipher:  apt-get, or synaptic
[09:34] <_native_> i have restarted
[09:34] <flozilum> looking for a codec package... any recommendations?
[09:34] <minuscipher> whats that?
[09:35] <_native_> the applet seems to have stoped functioning as intended
[09:35] <minuscipher> im sorry
[09:35] <aftertaf> minuscipher:  system menu>synaptic package manager
[09:35] <dooglus> firestorm: for xterm, hold control and press middle-mouse-button - there's a menu to select 'visual bell'
[09:35] <minuscipher> i dont know much
[09:35] <sn9> dlf: you need to regenerate the locales and edit /etc/environment
[09:35] <salutis> i am problem with evolution. i have backup of my old .evolution directory, but if i copy this my home folder in my new breezy installation my contact list is empty
[09:35] <stimpie> someone knows howto to create a 32bit chrooit on amd64?
[09:35] <sampan> minuscipher  in konsole, go to settings --> bell --> none
[09:35] <firestorm> dooglus: thanks again :)
[09:35] <Spear> hi !
[09:35] <_native_> i had to edit resolv.conf by hand to get the proper nameserer address set back to what it was.
[09:36] <dlf> sn9 how do i do that
[09:36] <nnonix> hello !
[09:36] <dooglus> firestorm: xterm also has a "-vb" option, to set "visual bell"
[09:36] <sampan> minuscipher  settings is in the menubar -- if it's not there, try right clicking in the konsole window
[09:36] <dlf> sn9 i just need loadkeys se-lat6
[09:36] <dlf> sn9 the system should be english
[09:36] <sampan> ooops, doh, that was for firestorm
[09:36] <Spear> i lost my " root terminal " from my gnome menu and can't manage to find what the shortcut exactly is to start a root terminal :) ... does anybody know ?
[09:36] <sn9> dlf: oh. i thought you meant the other way around
[09:37] <verde1> hi
[09:37] <aftertaf> Spear:  srat a normal one and type su -
[09:37] <dlf> sn9 so is it possible to get swedish keyset from boot
[09:37] <sn9> dlf: in console or gnome?
[09:37] <minuscipher> i dont see no command window
[09:37] <dlf> sn9 this linux installation is just for my school project
[09:38] <dlf> sn9 gnome and console
[09:38] <sn9> dlf: i've never tried changing console layout, but gnome has some settings in the menu
[09:38] <dooglus> firestorm: actually, I don't hear any beeps from xterm at all - I must have turned off the beeper somehow.  I don't see it flash either.  Not sure what I've done.  Maybe the hardware beeper is broken?
[09:38] <_native_> etc/network/interfaces was fine.
[09:39] <_native_> ill keep testing to make sure that this is a bug but i know that the behaviour has changed.
[09:39] <sn9> dlf: when you first install, it should ask you which keyboard you have
[09:39] <dlf> sn9  yes its working
[09:39] <Spear> aftertaf,  always typing su is boring when you have to do a lot of technical things
[09:40] <firestorm> dooglus: i feel like breaking mine :P
[09:40] <dlf> sn9 sure did but im in a closed novell network so i cant download from the install
[09:40] <dooglus> firestorm: I just tried in a virtual console - it's silent there too
[09:40] <aftertaf> Spear:  technical things can be boring when you'd rather be curled up in bed with a beautiful woman, but i cant help that ;P
[09:41] <dlf> sn9 thank you..
[09:41] <minuscipher> yeah i dont see anythinh
[09:41] <dmlinux> !customshorcuts
[09:41] <ubotu> No idea, dmlinux
[09:41] <dmlinux> !tell dmlinux about customshortcuts
[09:41] <nnonix> spea: open a terminal and look at the prompt, then type sudo -s and look at the prompt again.
[09:42] <dlf> and to my other question.. where to find good help with proftpd... i just need a few users and a anonymous account with diffrent root folder
[09:42] <verde1> hi
[09:42] <bluefrog> hi all
[09:42] <kairu0> yo
[09:42] <Spear> thanks nnonix  !
[09:42] <ethy> Anybody here have experience with Cedega?
[09:42] <nnonix> spear: np
[09:43] <dooglus> firestorm: did you try "xset -b"?  that turns the bell off
[09:43] <Xyc0> What type of Azureus installs on Ubuntu, GTK or Motif?
[09:43] <bluefrog> could anyone give me a hand on dhcp. am at a loss to make it work. telling me it's not configured to listen on an interface but as far as i know it is.
[09:43] <ethy> Xyc0: If you are using GNOME then Gtk.
[09:43] <Xyc0> ethy: Thanks
[09:44] <firestorm> dooglus: that worked! thanks
[09:44] <bigfoot1> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy. On my menu, There are some programs that  won't work anymore. Something like, "Cannot launch entry. Details: Failed to execute child process "kiax" (No such file or directory)." Why can't kiax work? How do I get rid of all these un-usable icons/shortcuts? Do i need to use debfoster, sudo clean or sudo autoclean? OR something else?
[09:45] <dooglus> firestorm: welcome.  anything else?
[09:45] <minuscipher> can anyone please tell me how to install basic things
[09:45] <ethy> Xyc0: If you are using Breezy, have a look here "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272".
[09:45] <firestorm> dooglus: nope that is all for now :)  bye
[09:45] <bigfoot1> minuscipher: use synaptic
[09:45] <bigfoot1> minuscipher: or click on "add applications" on your menu.
[09:45] <dooglus> "sudo apt-get install bwbasic yabasic"
[09:46] <helloyo> !restricted
[09:46] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:46] <volvoguy> hey all, i found an app that saved all the data off my dying drive. i'm now getting ready to send the drive back for a replacement and want to make sure it's as wiped as possible. any pointers on the best way to do that?
[09:46] <minuscipher> ok add apts is on
[09:46] <frank23> volvoguy: in the ultimate boot cd there are wiping tools to do this
[09:47] <volvoguy> frank23, excellent. i'll grab it now. thanks. :o)
[09:47] <helloyo> i have just switched back to hoary (fresh install), where do i get java from these days?
[09:47] <agt> sn9, Thanks for your help re iPod, works fine now whether under forced disk mode or not. Cheers :)
[09:47] <Xyc0> ethy: Thanks, ill try that
[09:47] <bluefrog-10> hi all
[09:47] <giany911> hy
[09:48] <dooglus> volvoguy: get a package called "wipe" - and run a program called "wipe".  it - um - wipes things :)
[09:48] <sn9> !tell helloyo about w32deb
[09:48] <bluefrog-10> anyone could help me on breezy and dhcp pls?
[09:48] <helloyo> thanks sn9!
[09:48] <volvoguy> dooglus, :-)
[09:48] <salutis> i am problem with evolution. i have backup of my old .evolution directory, but if i copy this my home folder in my new breezy installation my contact list is empty
[09:48] <bigfoot1> does anybody know why my kiax program can't work anymore in breezy? I could use it in hoary? It's in synaptic, but when I try to re-install kiax, it says,"Package kiax has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list." What must I do?
[09:48] <bigfoot1> correction. I could use it in hoary.
[09:49] <volvoguy> dooglus, just a bunch of one's and zero's is probably fine. there's no real sensitive data on there.
[09:49] <sn9> bigfoot1: you need to reenable your repositories
[09:49] <OrgulloKmoore> Heyy...this is my first time using ubuntu
[09:50] <OrgulloKmoore> How do I get the sound running?
[09:50] <dooglus> volvoguy: read the 'wipe' man page.  it includes the term "rising totalitarianism"
[09:50] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: which soundcard
[09:50] <volvoguy> dooglus, ok.
[09:50] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, the brand is Media (I think)
[09:50] <OrgulloKmoore> I also have a Catalina Turtle Beach
[09:51] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: you have 2 soundcards? why?
[09:51] <bigfoot1> sn9, how do i do that? I think I remember: it's a kde application. which repo must i enable? sorry.
[09:51] <dooglus> volvoguy: the author of wipe clearly thinks that his hard-disks are working against him.
[09:51] <sn9> bigfoot1: enable them all except backports
[09:51] <sn9> !tell bigfoot1 about repos
[09:51] <bigfoot1> sn9, where's my sources list?
[09:51] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, because...I actually have three
[09:52] <volvoguy> dooglus, i've met people like that. i know one guy that takes old drives apart and melts 'em to dispose of them.
[09:52] <OrgulloKmoore> but I only need one to work
[09:52] <_native_> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:52] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: which one would you like to work?
[09:52] <bigfoot1> _native_: thanks!
[09:52] <dooglus> volvoguy: my Dad took an electric drill to his last PC's hard-disk before throwing it out!
[09:52] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, the Media one, I suppose
[09:52] <OrgulloKmoore> it's the one that worked best in Debian
[09:52] <aftertaf> loool
[09:52] <_native_> lol
[09:52] <brownie17> what is CUPS and how can i use it to enable my printer that is not supported by drivers?
[09:53] <Yalla-One> Hi all!  I'm am considering migrating to Ubuntu as it seems to have all hardware drivers etc built-in for easy functionality. My question is what kind of performance penalties this comes with? I'm not into starting a flame war, and am prepared to take a small performance hit to get simplicity. Is this the case with Ubuntu?
[09:53] <aftertaf> Yalla-One:  works like a dream (tm)
[09:53] <OrgulloKmoore> I used the alsaconf command...but I don't think that exists in ubuntu
[09:53] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: what does lspci say about that card?
[09:53] <volvoguy> dooglus, then there's my uncle who does his bills and taxes on his computer and puts it out on the curb every time he gets a virus he can't fix. *rolls eyes*
[09:53] <aftertaf> Yalla-One:  its debian based, so easy to get what you want, and nothing more.
[09:53] <ethy> Yalla-One: Which distro are you running on now? And what's your computer's specification?
[09:53] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, 0000:02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[09:53] <liable> Yalla-One: you can still use a lightweight wm with ubuntu.
[09:54] <dooglus> volvoguy: "The best way  to sanitize a storage medium  is to subject it to  temperatures exceeding 1500K.   As a  cheap alternative, you might  use wipe at  your own risk."
[09:54] <brownie17> aftertaf, what do you know about "CUPS"?
[09:54] <bigfoot1> sn9, i think i have many repos already enabled . See my sources.list at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3225, if you please.
[09:54] <nnonix> bluefoxicy: What's the problem?
[09:54] <Yalla-One> ethy, I'm running a slimmed-down version of Slackware 10.2 on a Pentium-M laptop w/512MB RAM (no problems) and a Pentium-III laptop with 96MB RAM
[09:54] <helloyo> am i the only person to go back to hoary?
[09:54] <nnonix> whoops, damn nick completion.
[09:54] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, alternatively: 0000:02:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy2
[09:54] <volvoguy> dooglus, i think throwing it in the pond in my backyard might take care of it too. what do i know though? :-)
[09:54] <aftertaf> brownie17:  not much, just that it works for the network printers we have here on my laptop.
[09:54] <OrgulloKmoore> the second one is the turtle, I believe
[09:54] <brownie17> aftertaf, ok
[09:55] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: what's up with your dhcp?
[09:55] <aftertaf> Yalla-One:  im on a p3 500, but i have 256M ram
[09:55] <sn9> OrgulloKmoore: did you modprobe snd-cmipci ?
[09:55] <Yalla-One> aftertaf, Soit doesn't do any additional drivers/daemons etc which requires CPU cycles or memory compared to others?
[09:55] <bluefrog-10> not listenning on any interface but as far as i know it is
[09:55] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, nope
[09:55] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: and what exactly are you attempting to do when it says that?
[09:55] <aftertaf> Yalla-One:  not really, and the extrastuff that runs, you can stop easily thx to init.d scripts
[09:55] <bliggy> if anyone could help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated here... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904
[09:55] <bigfoot1> can someone take a look at my sourecs list (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3225) and tell me what do i need to do in order to enable everything but backports?
[09:56] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, what should I be doing?
[09:56] <bluefrog-10> trying to start dhcp server
[09:56] <OrgulloKmoore> sn9, I'm gonna send you a PM, k?
[09:56] <ethy> Yalla-One: Then you'll have no problem using Ubuntu, Ubuntu 5.10 works "out-of-the-box" for me, I'm running on Dell 600m (Pentium M 1.3Ghz, ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 64MB, 512MB @ 266MHz). I just started to use Linux 10 days ago and Ubuntu is my first distro, I'm already getting a hang at it. Since you've used Slackware you'll have no problem getting around in Ubuntu.
[09:56] <volvoguy> dooglus, i do agree with the first sentence of his description though. i threw dozens of linux and windows of programs at this drive that couldn't read a thing and finally found one that read every bit of data on the drive. quite amazing.
[09:56] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: which package did you install?
[09:56] <Xyc0> bigfoot1: did you add multiverse to the end of all the binary links?
[09:56] <bluefrog-10> dhcp3-server
[09:56] <dooglus> volvoguy: what eventually worked for you?
[09:57] <Yalla-One> ethy, Sounds great... I switched from SuSE 9.2 to Slacware and found my computer got 10 times faster, so I was a bit concerned, but will give it a try and report back here :)
[09:57] <volvoguy> a windows app called Phoenix Linux Data Recovery by Stellar Info Systems.
[09:57] <rempresent> what is the fastest way to display your IP in the terminal
[09:57] <sn9> bigfoot1: uncomment the deb-src lines, but other than that, should be fine
[09:58] <dmlinux> What do i have to install to get DVDs to play with totem ? Xine??
[09:58] <volvoguy> dooglus, $80 was a small price to pay for 300Gb worth of data!
[09:58] <ethy> Yalla-One: I find GNOME tend to be slow at times, but you can always run a minimistic (sp?) GUI to speed things up, however I'm not at that level yet. =P
[09:58] <aftertaf> rempresent:  type ifconfig
[09:58] <bigfoot1> sn9, do you think lines 1 and 17 are redundant, and working against me?
[09:58] <giany911> can i install a .deb under ubuntu ?
[09:58] <Yalla-One> ethy, I've got my family on KDE and I'm running fluxbox myself...
[09:58] <Yalla-One> ethy, It's just a matter of habit :)
[09:58] <aftertaf> ethy, Yalla-One kde runs great and i find it faster than gbome on lowend pcs. or there is xfce/e17
[09:58] <Marko> giany911:  yeah with dpkg -i deb name
[09:58] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: did you modify your dhcpd.conf?
[09:58] <sn9> bigfoot1: they are not
[09:59] <giany911> thx
[09:59] <bigfoot1> sn9, so i need both lines?
[09:59] <dmlinux> What do i have to install to get DVDs to play with totem ? Xine??
[09:59] <bigfoot1> sn9, are you saying that i got kiax from source?
[09:59] <agt> dmlinux, try 'sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2'
[09:59] <dooglus> volvoguy: thanks.  you never know when such information might be handy.
[09:59] <volvoguy> dooglus, this wipe guy scares me. this isn't going to secretly going to wipe data i want is it? ;-)
[09:59] <sn9> bigfoot1: you need both lines
[10:00] <xukun> anybody have a working skype on breezy?
[10:00] <dooglus> volvoguy: he sounds to me like he's just wanting to make absolutely sure you don't sue him in the unlikely event that there's a bug in his program
[10:00] <dmlinux> agt no installation candidate it says
[10:00] <bluefrog-10> dhcp.conf is configured as it is on FC4 where it is working. /etc/default/dhcp... has interface=eth0, made a ln-s /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf in etc just in case.
[10:00] <volvoguy> dooglus, i highly recommend it. it worked flawlessly and they even let me keep the more expensive physical media they accidentally shipped me. good people.
[10:00] <bigfoot1> xukun: i do.
[10:00] <dmlinux> agt i remember installing xine on my last distro install,
[10:00] <agt> dmlinux, I got that from http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback - read the bit about enabling extra repositories
[10:01] <bigfoot1> xukun: i think i got skype from seveas's repo
[10:01] <xukun> bigfoot1, would mine telling me how
[10:01] <xukun> aah okl
[10:01] <dooglus> volvoguy: it's funny that the only 'disk rescue' program you found that worked with your linux filesystems is a windows program!
[10:01] <giany911> oops
[10:01] <sn9> !tell agt about ubuntuguide
[10:01] <xukun> Seveas, are u here
[10:01] <Marko> How long should I have to wait until mail-notification gets updated to 2.0 in the universe repository?
[10:01] <bigfoot1> xukun: yes seveas is shere
[10:01] <dooglus> xukun: I have a working skype on breezy
[10:02] <volvoguy> dooglus, ironically, most of the data recovery software i found was windows only - even if it was for rescuing linux or mac filesystems. *shrug*
[10:02] <agt> !faq
[10:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[10:02] <giany911> when i try to install with dpkg -i i get  dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[10:02] <xukun> Seveas, can u help me installing skype on my system?
[10:02] <bluefrog-10> have no dns server working but that shouldn't make a difference, should it?
[10:02] <Marko> and if I install my own .deb package of a file, and there is a new version in the repositories, will it overwrite my ipkg installed file?
[10:02] <xukun> dooglus, how?
[10:02] <giany911> marko
[10:02] <bigfoot1> xukun: actually, seveas didn't help me out with that. somebody else in this chatroom told me about the url for his repository
[10:03] <dooglus> xukun: I went to skype.com, downloaded it and installed it...
[10:03] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: I believe it should be at /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[10:03] <volvoguy> dooglus, have you used wipe? he suggests not wiping a whole disk (/dev/hdc), but a partition, so you don't kill an MBR. this is just a data drive though.
[10:03] <xukun> dooglus, that doesnt work for me?
[10:03] <xukun> bigfoot1, hmm
[10:03] <dlf> howto's 4 proftpd? anyone?
[10:03] <xukun> bigfoot1, do you know the url?
[10:03] <bluefrog-10> it is i just forgot the d when i typed here
[10:03] <dlf> not the www.proftpd.org samples or man proftpd
[10:04] <bigfoot1> xukun, i'm sorry i forgot.
[10:04] <dooglus> xukun: I used this download: http://skype.com/go/getskype-linux-static
[10:04] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: dhcpd.conf rather than dhcp.conf
[10:04] <bigfoot1> xukun: try the thing dooglus shared.
[10:04] <bluefrog-10> it is already
[10:04] <xukun> shure
[10:04] <bigfoot1> guys, i just edited my sources.list. what command shoudl i run?
[10:04] <dooglus> xukun: it's the "Static binary tar.bz2 with Qt 3.2 compiled in" version (since I use gnome and don't want to install the smelly Qt libraries centrally)
[10:05] <ethy> bigfft1: sudo apt-get update
[10:05] <Sonderblade> why isn't there a "gcc" program in breezy?
[10:05] <Marko> bigfoot1: you can run apt-get update or just open up synaptic and hit the update button
[10:05] <sn9> Sonderblade: there is
[10:05] <_native_> i use the address of my router for the nameserver address because im using NAT the router handles the forwarding to my service providers nameserver
[10:05] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: DNS won't matter, its just handing out addresses
[10:05] <dooglus> Sonderblade: you need to install it.  install "build-essential" to get a bunch of build tools, or just install 'gcc' if that's all you need
[10:05] <bigfoot1> dooglus: why don't you want to install QT libraries? hard drive space issue?
[10:05] <Marko> how do I turn off events from displaying in xchat?
[10:05] <brownie17> has anyone here tried warcraft3 with wine?
[10:06] <Marko> like people joining and leaving
[10:06] <brownie17> aftertaf, how can i find out what version of wine i have?
[10:06] <xukun> dooglus, I,m downloading it now
[10:06] <Sonderblade> thanks
[10:06] <sn9> Marko: rightclick the channel tab
[10:06] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I have enough hard disk space, but i'm short of ram.  I don't want Qt tying up RAM as well as Gtk
[10:06] <bigfoot1> Marko: i tried doing that in terminal, but i got message: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list . directory." I don't have synaptic opened.
[10:06] <xukun> dooglus, how do I install it?
[10:06] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i didn't know installing qt ties up ram.
[10:06] <dooglus> brownie17: I tried it on acid once, but never with wine, no.
[10:06] <dooglus> brownie17: I don't recommend it.
[10:07] <dbug> bigfoot1, maybe you have synaptic open
[10:07] <dooglus> xukun: I installed it just for my user, like this:
[10:07] <bigfoot1> dooglus: so whenever we install a kde app (an app that starts with the letter "k"), that means we have installed QT libraries?
[10:07] <Marko> bigfoot1: you have some package manager open if your sources file is locked
[10:07] <brownie17> dooglus, well i found a guide that said it worked, and how to do it, but when i try it warcraft tells me i am running windows 95
[10:07] <bigfoot1> Marko: dbug. i don't have anything open. just my browser, terminal, gedit and nautilus
[10:07] <bigfoot1> Marko: dbug. oh i was wrong.
[10:08] <bigfoot1> Marko: dbug. sorry
[10:08] <dooglus> xukun: cd; mkdir -p programs; cd programs; tar xf ~/Desktop/skype_static*.bz2; cd skype *; ./skype
[10:08] <dooglus> bigfoot1: yes.  KDE apps need the Qt libs to run
[10:08] <bliggy> [spam]  if anyone could help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated here... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76904 [/spam]
[10:08] <dooglus> bigfoot1: maybe you need to use cedega or whatever it's called.
[10:09] <Marko> bigfoot: interesting.  make sure that you are not editing the file also?  Usually you have a lock on a file when an application wants exclusive rights to the file
[10:09] <bigfoot1> Marko: dbug. oh. i was wrong about being wrong. i don't see anything opened. No synaptic. Nothing.
[10:09] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: and I suppose you meant "interfaces=eth0" when you typed "interface=eth0"?
[10:09] <bigfoot1> dooglus: and ram is being used by QT even when there is no kde app being used at that time?
[10:09] <giany911> how do i install a .rpm
[10:09] <bluefrog-10> yes indeed  i should pay attention how i write my answers sry
[10:10] <dooglus> bigfoot1: installing Qt libraries doesn't use RAM, but running them does.  so I'd rather not run them, so I don't install them.  geddit?  :)
[10:10] <dooglus> giany911: you probably shouldn't need to - but if you really do, you can use a package called 'alien'
[10:10] <bigfoot1> and when are they run? only when a kde program is run?
[10:10] <dooglus> bigfoot1: that's right
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> in fact before the Not configured to listen on any interfaces i also have  No subnet declaration for eth0. but i do have a subnet decl.
[10:10] <Marko> where does ubuntu mount network drives?
[10:11] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: try relocating the file to /etc/dhcpd.conf and try to start it
[10:11] <kalv> hello people - I'm running ubuntu on my laptop now - it's amazing!!
[10:11] <f_newton> is there a backports and extras for breezy?
[10:11] <Spear> glad you're happy with it kalv
[10:11] <kalv> only distro that works out of the box - well almost...
[10:11] <bluefrog-10> would a symlink be alright for the dhcpd.conf, if yes in that case it doesn't do antyghin.
[10:11] <bigfoot1> anybody know of a good asterisk program for gnome? (Coz I've been using kiax, but would like to stick to non-QT stuff like mr. dooglus)
[10:11] <kalv> i'm totally converted from mandriva
[10:12] <aftertaf> dooglus:  on acid ;) hehe
[10:12] <dooglus> what's asterisk?
[10:12] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: just move the file for now, if it works you can symlink it later
[10:12] <bigfoot1> i'm looking for an asterisk client application
[10:12] <Spear> wow ... Mandriva works well too, no ?
[10:12] <f_newton> kalv yer talking like a noob
[10:12] <sn9> f_newton: the hoary-extras works for breezy for now, no backports
[10:12] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: better yet, just put a copy there.
[10:12] <kalv> well i am
[10:12] <bluefrog-10> trying now
[10:12] <f_newton> hoary works?
[10:12] <SpiderMan> if i want to run the upgrade should i be in run level 3 ?
[10:12] <liable> SpiderMan: no, why?
[10:12] <SpiderMan> just asking,
[10:13] <Marko> douglas: asterisk is a PBX program (like a super duper answering machine)
[10:13] <liable> SpiderMan: this isnt redhat :)
[10:13] <bigfoot1> guys: please complete this analogy: kiax is to kubuntu as ______ is to gnome?
[10:13] <f_newton> sn9 do you have a url for the repo ?
[10:13] <bigfoot1> guys: please complete this analogy: kiax is to kubuntu as ______ is to ubuntu.
[10:13] <SpiderMan> coz my upgrade files are going to finsh  d/ling in about 15 min
[10:13] <dlf> anyone able to help me with a simple ftp-server that can handle 3users and a anonymous account..
[10:13] <f_newton> I want the win codecs and java etc ...
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> still the same erors
[10:14] <kalv> 5.10 breezy badger - anyone know if the accelerated nvidia driver will break my susped and hibernate?
[10:14] <verwilst> hello
[10:14] <sn9> f_newton: deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[10:15] <verwilst> can somebody tell me what exactly universe and multiverse are? :$
[10:15] <sn9> !tell f_newton about w32deb
[10:15] <volvoguy> dooglus, i know what a good test would be.... to see if the data recovery can read any data after i run wipe on this drive! :-)
[10:15] <bigfoot1> sn9, i updated my sources list just as you said, but i still can't get the kiax installation to work.
[10:15] <sn9> bigfoot1: did you do apt-get update?
[10:15] <nnonix> bluefrog-10: that's all I have considering I don't have dhcp installed. Sorry, maybe ask the questions again.
[10:15] <cronik> any1 from nz here?
[10:15] <bluefrog-10> ty nnonix
[10:16] <dlf> !tell dlf about proftpd
[10:16] <bigfoot1> sn9, i hit "reload" in synaptic
[10:16] <dlf> hm...
[10:16] <bluefrog-10> anyone with a dhcp server running on breezy could give me a hand pls?
[10:16] <malv> is it me or does openoffice feel a bit sluggish under linux?
[10:16] <sn9> bigfoot1: and it still says no candidate?
[10:17] <ethy> malv: It's probably GNOME.
[10:17] <agabus> when i go to install ubuntu from my laptop. will i be able to use my wireless card during the install?
[10:17] <dooglus> volvoguy: I would be very surprised if it does.  just from the tone of the wipe man page I think this guy would have done a good job with 'wipe'
[10:17] <bigfoot1> sn9, yes, it still gives me the same message (see it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3226)
[10:17] <bluefrog-10> there's afair chance yes abacus
[10:17] <Marko> I would use vsftpd instead of proftp, but that's just me: http://vsftpd.beasts.org/
[10:17] <ethy> malv: If you are using Fluxbox or IceWM then it's probably faster.
[10:18] <atman> ey hou
[10:18] <bluefrog-10> there's afair chance yes abacus
[10:18] <bluefrog-10> there's afair chance yes agabus
[10:18] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - does it use ndiswrapper or.? how does it load a driver for it?
[10:18] <kalv> agabus - yes you can use wireless card
[10:18] <malv> ethy: yea, probably a gnome issue
[10:18] <kalv> i did
[10:19] <agabus> kalv - so how does it load the driver for it?
[10:19] <goodthink> evening gents and mam's
[10:19] <goodthink> I have a problem I can't seem to find help on
[10:19] <goodthink> how do i set up ppoe in ubuntu?
[10:19] <bluefrog-10> agabus: is ti on a laptop?
[10:20] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - yer
[10:20] <aftertaf> !pppoe
[10:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[10:20] <atman> ei was up guis and girs
[10:20] <f_newton> sn9, thanks... working them out now.
[10:20] <atman> :)
[10:20] <bluefrog-10> agabus: the the card will likely be found and activated by breezy
[10:20] <ethy> I don't get it... How can you use Fluxbox within GNOME? Isn't Fluxbox an seperate GUI?
[10:21] <kalv> if you have a wep key - remember to take it down agabus
[10:21] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - i dont exactly follow u. why do other distro's automatically load all wireless cards?
[10:21] <dmlinux> agt any idea on how to make the DVD Mplayer full screen,
[10:21] <bluefrog-10> agabus: if not ndiswrapper after the install. ndiswrapper is on the cd
[10:21] <goodthink> !ppoe
[10:21] <ubotu> goodthink: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:21] <aftertaf> !pppoe
[10:21] <ubotu> pppoe is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[10:21] <Marko> whenever I try to launch mail notification I get the following error: mail-notification: error while loading shared libraries: libsoup-2.2.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:21] <kalv> agabus - the wireless driver loaded automatically for me - using intel 2200BG
[10:21] <bluefrog-10> agabus: what do u mean by why do other distro's automatically load all wireless cards?
[10:22] <sn9> bigfoot1: do you remember installing kiax under hoary?
[10:22] <agabus> kalv - i will remember to take my wep key thanks for the reminder.
[10:22] <kalv> agabus - dude i say this cause i damn forgot!
[10:22] <highvoltage> hi, how do i download a package from hoary?
[10:22] <brownie17> does anyone know what your config file is called in wine?
[10:23] <highvoltage> i'd like to download one .deb file from hoary, to install on another machine.
[10:23] <sn9> highvoltage: you mean onto breezy? why?
[10:23] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - i was not aware that my linksys card had any linux drivers available for it
[10:23] <agabus> kalv - lol dam
[10:23] <highvoltage> sn9: no, for another hoary box (remote, no internet connection)
[10:23] <Marko> anyone have a working mail-notification?
[10:23] <dooglus> highvoltage: do you have a hoary machine online?
[10:23] <dmlinux> Anyone have an idea on how to make Mplayer view the DVD playback t full screen , intead of looking at a a full screen window, with a minimized DVD playback
[10:23] <highvoltage> dooglus: no.
[10:23] <nnonix> agabus: if you want to know for sure, load the live CD. If your wifi card works there it should work during installation.
[10:24] <dooglus> highvoltage: go to packages.ubuntu.com - that's the easiest way
[10:24] <Marko> dmlinux: use the -zoom option
[10:24] <highvoltage> dooglus: thanks
[10:24] <agabus> nnonix - i don't have the time to download both the live and install cd tonight :(
[10:24] <ethy> dmlinux: Right click on the screen, click on Preferences, go to Video tab, and then select xv X11/Xv decoder.
[10:24] <dooglus> dmlinux: use "-vo xv" flags
[10:24] <SpiderMan> has anybody done the upgrade from hoary to breezy ?
[10:24] <dmlinux> Marko i cant find that
[10:25] <bam_> yes
[10:25] <bam_> worked flawlessly
[10:25] <julo> hi
[10:25] <xukun> dooglus, thanks for your help. Skype starts now, and it look realy nice. but I have two small problems, first is that it takes about a minute to start after I run ./skye and the second thing is that: sound comes from my laptop speakers and not from my usb headset
[10:25] <nnonix> agabus: you may want to search the Ubuntu forums for your wifi card, see what experience others have had, if any.
[10:25] <bluefrog-10> agabus: then do an install and find out. do u know how to set up ndiswrapper just in case?
[10:25] <Marko> how do I personal messege someone in xchat?
[10:25] <bam_> some tweaks needed to be re-applied
[10:25] <julo> Could anyone tell me how I can list all the packages that I installed from a given repository ?
[10:25] <agabus> bluefrog-10 - i have a basic idea of how to setup ndiswrapper, but how hard can it be.
[10:25] <dooglus> xukun: it's a KDE app - it uses a different set of libraries than GNOME apps use
[10:25] <dmlinux> ethy do i have to restart the dvd ?
[10:26] <xukun> dooglus, I see
[10:26] <ethy> dmlinux: Yeah. Quit Mplayer and then start Mplayer again.
[10:26] <dooglus> xukun: as for the sound, I don't know about that sorry.
[10:26] <bigfoot1> sn9, yes i installed kiax when i was still using hoary. Kiax worked fine there
[10:26] <Marko> dmlinux: are you running mplayer from the command prompt or are you running gmplayer?
[10:26] <xukun> dooglus, thanks so far
[10:27] <dmlinux> Marko im running it fro apps/sound/video on the GUI
[10:27] <bigfoot1> does anybody know of a internet softphone software package that allows one to access the asterisk PBX gateway? I heard about gnophone, but it's not in repos
[10:27] <dooglus> xukun: in skype, do you see anything interesting in tools->options->headsets ?
[10:27] <dmlinux> ethy Fatal error ! , Error opening/initializing the selected video_out -vo device
[10:28] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I read that gnophone is "abandonware" ie. not worked on for a long time, not working with current versions of asterisk, etc.
[10:28] <ethy> dmlinux: Go to the terminal, then "mplayer -vo vx".
[10:28] <Marko> dmlinux: got it.  do other video files play in fullscreen fine?
[10:28] <xukun> dooglus, yes it says: /dev/dsp
[10:28] <dmlinux> mark no
[10:28] <dooglus> xukun: do you have a choice there?
[10:29] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i just went totheir website. looks like the last update was 2002. you're right. Do you or anyone here know of a good asterisk-accessible softphone client for my ubuntu?
[10:29] <dooglus> bigfoot1: did you see http://iaxclient.sourceforge.net/iaxcomm/ ?
[10:29] <xukun> dooglus, yes, /dev/dsp1
[10:29] <TokenBad> anyone here use xchat...and a perl script that post your current bandwidth from it?
[10:29] <dooglus> xukun: try that maybe
[10:29] <SamStar> Hey how do i download/install music/video codecs ?
[10:29] <Marko> dmlinux: does mplayer -zoom -fs <your video file> from the terminal work?
[10:30] <bluefrog-10> anyone with a dhcp server running on breezy could give me a hand pls?
[10:30] <bigfoot1> dooglus: thanks. how'd you hear about that? Do you use that? How do i install it?
[10:30] <ethy> !tell SamStar about w32codecs
[10:30] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I only hear about asterisk 5 minutes ago.  I just googled for it.
[10:30] <ethy> SamStar: Check your PM.
[10:30] <dmlinux> Marko there is no zoom fuction , only a double size -fullscreen, but it doesnt change the size of the picture
[10:30] <Marko> so anyone have mail-notification installed at all?
[10:30] <sn9> bigfoot1: when you installed kiax, did you use apt?
[10:30] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it looks like you're going to have to compile it from source...
[10:30] <ethy> dmlinux: You have to use the Xv video output instead of the X11.
[10:31] <SamStar> thx ethy, but is it only for DVD-Video ?
[10:31] <dmlinux> ethy i get an error when i do that
[10:31] <ethy> SamStar: No, QuickTime, Real, WMV, etc.
[10:31] <SamStar> ok, and how do i install ? ;0
[10:31] <mathieu> hi, i upgraded to breezy, but i don't have the nice graphical boot screen. how do i enable it?
[10:31] <Marko> dmlinux: just to double check, you get that when launching mplayer from the terminal with:  mplayer -zoom -fs <your video file>
[10:31] <SpiderMan> mathieu i want to know thesame thing
[10:31] <ethy> dmlinux: Try to run "mplayer -vo vx" in terminal.
[10:32] <highvoltage> dooglus: thanks for the packages link, it did the job perfectly.
[10:32] <ben> Has anyone got an example sources.list for Hoary with extras and backports?
[10:32] <ben> I keep getting 403 errors
[10:32] <sn9> bigfoot1: download this: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kiax/kiax_0.8.4-1debian_i386.deb?download
[10:32] <dmlinux> Marko whats the line if you are playing right off a dvd /cda1?
[10:32] <Sh|fty> clear
[10:32] <Sh|fty> wth
[10:32] <dmlinux> ethy i get a large list of commands with that
[10:32] <Sh|fty> clearwe all do
[10:32] <xukun> dooglus, thanks a lot, that works
[10:32] <Sh|fty> ben we all are
[10:32] <Marko> dmlinux: let me get a dvd and try it out
[10:32] <ethy> SamStar: Download the deb file first then open up a terminal, CD to the path you downloaded the file and then type "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb".
[10:33] <bigfoot1> sn9, i don't exactly remember, but I think I did not get it from apt. I remember working with it for a few days. I think i had to compile it from source. Either that, or i had to get that deb, but had to compile its dependency/ies from source. it was not fun.
[10:33] <dooglus> xukun: you're welcome.
[10:33] <sn9> bigfoot1: download this: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kiax/kiax_0.8.4-1debian_i386.deb?download
[10:33] <bigfoot1> okay, sn9. I'm doing so now. thank you!
[10:33] <dooglus> xukun: the slow startup shouldn't be a problem - you only start it once, right?  it might be eating a lot of memory though.  shame there's not a gnome version.
[10:33] <ethy> dmlinux: One sec...
[10:34] <TokenBad> anyone here use xchat...and a perl script that post your current bandwidth from it?
[10:34] <rempresent> i have a rar archive, how can i extract that
[10:34] <rempresent> >
[10:34] <rempresent> ?
[10:35] <ethy> dmlinux: Look here. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76423
[10:35] <mllr> Anyone have a recommendation for GOOD eye drops?  I'm a eye drop noob.
[10:35] <dooglus> rempresent: "unrar x <archive>"
[10:35] <mllr> they burn like the sun.
[10:35] <dooglus> rempresent: install "unrar" or "unrar-nonfree" first using synaptic
[10:35] <bigfoot1> dooglus: yes, i just went to that. I'm no geek and i don't know how to compile from source. Is "compile" a scary thing?
[10:36] <bigfoot1> mllr:  i use eyemo
[10:36] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it can be a hassle - it depends on the package really...
[10:36] <bigfoot1> mllr: or chilled cucumber slices placed on closed eyes.
[10:36] <dmlinux> ethy i just tried that , and again gave me a fatal error
[10:36] <dooglus> bigfoot1: note also that a release candidate was made in march, but nothing since.  that doesn't look good...
[10:36] <SamStar> ethy, i type it, and what than ? when i try to play an mp3 it won't work :(
[10:36] <johntramp> hey, is it just me or are the ubuntu reposotories tiny?  There seem to be very few packages in them.
[10:37] <bigfoot1> dooglus, coz if i understand you right, using a non-QT package is better than using a QT-package, yes?
[10:37] <ethy> SamStar: Did the package successfully installed?
[10:37] <johntramp> Is there something I am missing?   Even packages in forum posts don't seem to be on any mirrors I have tried
[10:37] <bigfoot1> dooglus: is there no other iax/asterisk internet softphone?
[10:37] <SamStar> it said: sam@SamStar:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:37] <SamStar> Password:
[10:37] <SamStar> Selecting previously deselected package w32codecs.
[10:37] <SamStar> (Reading database ... 62557 files and directories currently installed.)
[10:37] <SamStar> Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ...
[10:37] <SamStar> Setting up w32codecs (20050412-0.0) ...
[10:37] <ethy> dmlinux: Um... do you have w32codecs? I'm not sure if it matters. Try to restart X perhaps?
[10:37] <bigfoot1> samstar enter the wrath of the forum
[10:37] <ubuntu> hi
[10:37] <SamStar> wrath ? :o
[10:38] <SpiderMan> Does the gnome update with the upgrade, and all the new features ?
[10:38] <dmlinux> ethy ill see if i have w32, im pretty sure i do since ive been able to play mp3s
[10:38] <ethy> SamStar: What are you using to play MP3s?
[10:38] <TTilus> johntramp: packages in forum posts such as?
[10:38] <ubuntu>  Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> HelpHelp
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:38] <SamStar> ehm rythmbox
[10:38] <TTilus> johntramp: what do you have in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:38] <ethy> SamStar: Just say "no codec" when you try to play mp3?
[10:38] <ubuntu> Help
[10:39] <ubuntu> Help
[10:39] <ubuntu> Help
[10:39] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: call 911
[10:39] <TTilus> ubuntu: doing that, you won't get it...
[10:39] <TTilus> ubuntu: if you have a question, ask
[10:39] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: you gotta ask nicely, like this:
[10:39] <bigfoot1> help
[10:40] <ubuntu> what can i do to lturn off my PC
[10:40] <TTilus> ubuntu: running ubuntu i guess?
[10:40] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: menu-->shut down-->shut down.
[10:40] <ubuntu> y
[10:40] <SamStar> it says that the file isn't an audio stream...
[10:40] <bigfoot1> ubuntu, press the power button on your pc.
[10:41] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: pull the plug (not recommended)
[10:41] <SamStar> but it is an *.mp3
[10:41] <ubuntu> no menu
[10:41] <bluefrog-10> anyone with a dhcp server running on breezy could give me a hand pls?
[10:41] <ethy> SamStar: Try using XMMS.
[10:42] <SamStar> need to install that ;)
[10:42] <Marko> dmlinux:  sorry, I'm having problems finding a dvd :) hang on some more
[10:42] <bigfoot1> does anybody here use an internet softphone client?
[10:42] <dmlinux> ethy when i try to install w32 codecs, it says PAckage w32codecs has no installation candidate
[10:42] <ethy> dmlinux: Did you do "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb"?
[10:42] <aftertaf> !repositories
[10:42] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:43] <aftertaf> dmlinux:  ^^^^^^
[10:43] <bigfoot1> how do i install a deb? And after i install a deb, can i delete the deb file?
[10:43] <dmlinux> ethy so i use sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb?
[10:43] <minuscipher> hey
[10:43] <TTilus> bigfoot1: dpkg -i file, yes
[10:43] <sn9> bigfoot1: yes you may. dpkg -i file.deb
[10:43] <ethy> bigfoot1: To install a deb, "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb".
[10:43] <bigfoot1> TTilus: sn9, ethy Three-fold thanks
[10:44] <ethy> dmlinux: Is the file name you downloaded named w32codecs.deb?
[10:44] <dmlinux> dpkg: error processing w32codecs.deb (--install):
[10:44] <dmlinux>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[10:44] <TTilus> bigfoot1: and prepend sudo, of course
[10:44] <SamStar> ethy, thx alot :)
[10:44] <ethy> dmlinux: So you downloaded w32codecs from the repository?
[10:44] <minuscipher> ok ok who can tell me how to install a program like this http://terminatorx.org/
[10:44] <dmlinux> ethy idk. i guess i dont have them
[10:44] <bjv> in 11 hours i will have finished upgrading to breezy, will:
[10:44] <bjv> a) i not notice the change, or
[10:44] <bjv> b) wild shit will suddenly happen
[10:45] <bjv> because there are a crapload of packages..
[10:45] <volvoguy> if i can drag my procmail-loving friend in here this week, is there a good chance someone can get us going in the right direction toward a migration to postfix? i'd have someone explain it to me, but i'm not sure how either works really and don't know the details of our config (apparently it's really complicated).
[10:45] <ethy> !tell dmlinux about w32codecs
[10:45] <sn9> !tell dmlinux about w32deb
[10:45] <dmlinux> ethy any way to apt-get it ?
[10:45] <TokenBad> anyone here use xchat...and a perl script that post your current bandwidth from it?
[10:45] <sn9> dmlinux: not anymore
[10:45] <dmlinux> god damnit :(
[10:46] <dmlinux> sorry for language
[10:46] <dmlinux> ethy so once i download this thing how do i install it?
[10:46] <helloyo> am i the only one that went back to hoary?
[10:46] <sn9> dmlinux: dpkg -i file.deb
[10:47] <ethy> dmlinux: CD to the directory where you download the file and then do "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb".
[10:47] <sn9> helloyo: probably
[10:47] <volvoguy> helloyo, probably. i've been using breezy for months. :)
[10:47] <TTilus> helloyo: haven't leaved hoary yet...  :)
[10:47] <bjv> helloyo: im currently migrating, why did you go back?
[10:47] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it's ok to use Qt apps - I would rather keep everything gnome based, but it's not always possible
[10:47] <TTilus> s/leaved/left
[10:47] <bigfoot1> guys, i tried installing a deb (kiax) but i get a message: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kiax:  kiax depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however:   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed." Where can i get this  libqt3c102-mt? I can't find it repo
[10:48] <helloyo> bjv, just didn't work anywhere near as well as hoary did for me
[10:48] <helloyo> i think it may be cairo which destroyed my xserver performance
[10:48] <TTilus> bigfoot1: where did you get kiax deb?
[10:48] <sn9> bigfoot1: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:48] <dooglus> bigfoot1: that's the same problem I had with skype.  I ended up installing the 'static' version of skype with the Qt libs bundled.
[10:48] <bjv> helloyo: oic
[10:48] <dmlinux> ethy restart X?
[10:49] <helloyo> bjv, but by all means give it a try, has a couple great features
[10:49] <ethy> dmlinux: You don't have to.
[10:49] <Marko> dmlinux:  well I can't find a DVD :)  try opening a terminal and typing: gmplayer -zoom and then open the dvd from the gui
[10:49] <dmlinux> ethy im still getting that funky error
[10:49] <Marko> hit f to enter fullscreen when the video is playing
[10:50] <Marko> anyone have a working mail-notification installed?
[10:50] <dmlinux> ethy going to restart, brb
[10:50] <bigfoot1> TTilus: i got that kiax deb from s: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kiax/kiax_0.8.4-1debian_i386.deb?download
[10:50] <sn9> Marko: mplayer cannot play DVDs. it can only play titles from DVDs
[10:51] <sn9> bigfoot1: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:52] <nubbe> does   md5sum -c file      return anything if all is well?
[10:52] <qbeek> evolution is not in the application list of bug buddy :(
[10:52] <tti> Hello everyone! I upgraded my server to breezy and now I get a strange behaviour from cyrus/sasl. Can anyone help me?
[10:53] <johntramp> TTilus, sorry, I got distracted.   One package I had to compile today was  http://rename.berlios.de/ , Also packages such as win32codecs do not seem to be on the mirrors. I was also looking for something like the bash-completion package in gentoo
[10:53] <Marko> sn9: really?  I see.  I just read :MPlayer does not support the DVDNAV software that plays DVD menus. For menued DVD playback, an alternative player such as Xine must be used from: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/MPlayer
[10:53] <goodthink> is there a problem with wireless centrino laptops and pppoe on ubuntu?
[10:53] <sn9> Marko: that's what i meant
[10:54] <dooglus> johntramp: ubuntu has bash-completion as standard.  you need to uncomment it from your ~/.bashrc is all
[10:54] <johntramp> dooglus,  oh cool,  thanks
[10:54] <TokenBad> tension breaker..had to be done
[10:54] <TokenBad> heheh
[10:54] <Marko> sn9:  cool beans.  You wouldn't happen to know how to debug a mail-notification bug
[10:55] <goodthink> everytime i try and install pppoe I get the error that ppoeconf cant find the access concentrator
[10:55] <sn9> Marko: doesn't sound like something i've done
[10:55] <dooglus> Marko: what's the problem?
[10:56] <dmlinux> ethy works, thanks man
[10:56] <dmlinux> marko thanks for your help
[10:56] <Marko> I installed mail-notification, but it doesn't launch from the menu.  From the command line I get: mail-notification: error while loading shared libraries: libsoup-2.2.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:56] <Marko> but I have libsoup 2.2-7 installed
[10:56] <_mindspin> goodthink: did it ever work?
[10:56] <nubbe> does   md5sum -c file      return anything if all is well?
[10:56] <sn9> Marko: sounds like a path problem
[10:56] <goodthink> no
[10:56] <_mindspin> where are you?
[10:57] <goodthink> just installed ubuntu and tried to get the pppoe working
[10:57] <_mindspin> but ppoe worked before on another distro?
[10:57] <goodthink> this is my first linux experience
[10:57] <dooglus> Marko: is this in breezy?  and did you install mail-notification using apt-get from a standard repository?  or what?
[10:57] <_mindspin> it worked on windows?
[10:57] <goodthink> yeah
[10:58] <dmlinux> Anyone here know if there is a way to undervolt your CPU for a laptop
[10:58] <goodthink> windows it self configures
[10:58] <Marko> this is in breezy using the universe respository
[10:58] <johntramp> I have problems with sound in macromedia flash player through firefox.  I have read on the forums to killall esd first, but that is an ugly hack,  why doesn't it work in the first place?
[10:58] <sn9> dmlinux: you mean lower the freq? yeah
[10:58] <bjv> dmlinux: i undervolt my CPU for my desktop.
[10:58] <_mindspin> I#m asking cause I had the same experience some months ago and it was due to the modem type
[10:58] <goodthink> ah
[10:58] <_mindspin> and more an ISP issue
[10:58] <bjv> dmlinux: via BIOS, obviously.
[10:59] <_mindspin> but that#s not in your case
[10:59] <dooglus> Marko: I'll try it.
[10:59] <goodthink> off the router its fine
[10:59] <dmlinux> sn9 no no , undervolt the CPU for less power consuption
[10:59] <bjv> sn9: yeah, reduce the # volts the CPU is fed.
[10:59] <dmlinux> bjv yeah , i do it in windblowz with notebook control hardware
[10:59] <goodthink> dunno if its the wirless part or what
[10:59] <_mindspin> could be
[10:59] <bigfoot1> TTilus: i got the kiax deb from http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kiax/kiax_0.8.4-1debian_i386.deb?download, which is where sn9 pointed me too.
[10:59] <bjv> dmlinux: oh, i lower mine 0.1 volts directly with BIOS
[10:59] <_mindspin> but I have no wireless
[10:59] <bigfoot1> sn9, is your handle a wordplay?
[10:59] <tti> When logging into my cyrus imap server with thunderbird clients, sometimes sasl correctly authenticate the password; while other times does not, telling 'NULL password received'
[11:00] <goodthink> going to reinstall and select the configuration during install and see if that works
[11:00] <sn9> bigfoot1: yes
[11:00] <bjv> dmlinux: if not aware of any software solutions for linux, though there probably are.
[11:00] <bjv> *i'm
[11:00] <dmlinux> bjv i undervolt mine from 0.978  ( or near that ) to 0.732v
[11:00] <tti> I'm using SASL + LDAP; all worked fine before upgrading to breezy
[11:00] <bluefrog-10> anyone with a dhcp server running on breezy could give me a hand pls?
[11:01] <_mindspin> goodthink: reinstall the whole system ? thats not necessary
[11:01] <bjv> ive never seen "how low, i can go" :
[11:01] <sn9> bluefrog-10: i have one
[11:01] <mustard5> I've been checking my firewall settings with www.grc.com and it seems to be showing my ports 21,22 and 113 as being open and not stealthed, is this normal?
[11:01] <goodthink> i needs ideas hehe
[11:01] <goodthink> pppoeconf isnt working
[11:01] <bigfoot1> sn9: i did as you said (sudo apt-get -f install). it removed something (i think kiax). Now what?
[11:01] <bigfoot1> sn9:  yes, it did remove kiax
[11:01] <bluefrog-10> sn9: did u have to fidle or did it work straight?
[11:02] <sn9> bigfoot1: it shouldn't do that
[11:02] <Hmmmm> hi guys can someon erecommend a gui cvs software for a linux newbie on ubuntu?
[11:02] <sn9> bluefrog-10: i had to config it for my net
[11:02] <bigfoot1> sn9, when i ran sudo apt-get -f install again, nothing was added/removed/installed
[11:02] <BobbySue> well well well
[11:02] <BobbySue> ubuntu rocks now
[11:02] <rempresent> goodnight everyone
[11:02] <BobbySue> I support all that ubuntu stands for
[11:02] <bigfoot1> rempresent: good night. which country u in?
[11:02] <BobbySue> time to go though
[11:02] <rempresent> USA
[11:03] <Marko> It looks like my libsoup2.2-7 did no install a library in /usr/lib.  I put a symbolic link from 2.2-7 to 2.2-8(which was installed) and it looks like it launched now
[11:03] <Sh|fty> its 7pm here :)
[11:03] <Sh|fty> mmmm, food time
[11:03] <Sh|fty> who wants to wget me some food ?
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> any chance i have a look at your conf in private window? i keep having not listen on interface and no subnet decl when those are correctly configured (well i assume)
[11:03] <dooglus> Marko: where did you get libsoup from? 2.2-7 isn't the breezy version
[11:04] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[11:04] <sn9> bluefrog-10: if i were chatting on the breezy machine you could have
[11:04] <odat> anyone have any experience with gyach enchanced???
[11:04] <bluefrog-10> oh ok too bad for me
[11:04] <odat> enhanced lol
[11:05] <mustard5> Hmmmm, ocamlcvs ?
[11:05] <mustard5> I don't know much about cvs :D
[11:05] <Marko> i think it might be left over from when I upgraded from hoaray.  It doesn't say it's from universe or multiverse...I actually don't know where I got it from
[11:05] <tuxedo_kamen> listen, I am having a problem on my ubuntu... each time I login, I get 3 errors, saying "re-read or not?"
[11:05] <Marko> I'm going to uninstall it
[11:05] <sn9> bluefrog-10: one problem i had was editing the wrong file. what is the path to your config?
[11:05] <tuxedo_kamen> how can i fix it?
[11:05] <mustard5> Hmmmm, tkcvs?