[10:05] <GuHhH> intelikey: i tried to boot again, and it says that cant load some modules, i think, and ends up on (initramfs)
[10:05] <intelikey> GuHhH yeah leaves you in a "busybox shell"  ?
[10:05] <tron__> The incoming mail works great with fetchmail and the user gets the mail fine
[10:05] <GuHhH> intelikey: right.
[10:05] <kraut> intelikey
[10:06] <intelikey> GuHhH ok that can be fixed by rebuilding your "initramfs.img"
[10:06] <intelikey> kraut you network/mailserver sava ?
[10:07] <kraut> intelikey: wtf?
[10:07] <intelikey> are / is you
[10:07] <kraut> intelikey: turn off your redneck mode
[10:07] <kraut> wtf is a sava?
[10:07] <intelikey> understan
[10:07] <john> check
[10:07] <madindustries> savvy
[10:08] <madindustries> (thats 2 v's)
[10:08] <kraut> oO
[10:08] <GuHhH> !rebuild initramfs
[10:09] <intelikey> !initramfs
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <kraut> GuHhH: update-initramfs
[10:09] <intelikey> hmmm there is a page on the wiki somewhere buh
[10:09] <intelikey> GuHhH
[10:09] <GuHhH> kraut: im on another system... :(
[10:09] <dotz> !input
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about input - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <dotz> !chinese
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <kraut> !wtf
[10:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:09] <kraut> pff
[10:10] <dotz> what do i need to input in chinese? i've installed skim and chinese fonts and followed guides
[10:10] <GuHhH> lol
[10:10] <dotz> but i just can't input in chinese zz
[10:11] <GuHhH> i will try something different
[10:11] <GuHhH> can someone tell me how do i access another partition with write permissions? something like uuid i think?!
[10:11] <intelikey> GuHhH you can mount the system in question      chroot into it and run that command
[10:11] <intelikey> GuHhH for rieserfs  you just mount it.
[10:12] <GuHhH> intelikey: okay, thanks... i will try :P
[10:12] <intelikey> you are askint about   uid=  as a mount option   but that's fs specific    M$ actually.
[10:13] <madindustries> intelikey: when you get a chance can you help me with something?
[10:13] <GuHhH> oh, i didnt know :D
[10:13] <intelikey> madindustries what it is ?
[10:13] <madindustries> intelikey: issue with .deb installation
[10:13] <intelikey> GuHhH `man mount` is a good read on that.
[10:13] <intelikey> madindustries i need more info than that...
[10:14] <madindustries> intelikey: try installing this http://download53.mediafire.com/zdwncdnng9mg/1gvxzt47p9j/gyachi_1.0.5-1_cvs_i386.deb
[10:14] <madindustries> intelikey: see if it works
[10:15] <madindustries> intelikey: i couldn't get it to install
[10:15] <intelikey> i don't think it will on a dapper system   and i don't have ff
[10:15] <GuHhH> intelikey: 1) mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/test 2) chroot /mnt/test 3) update-initramfs -u
[10:15] <GuHhH> intelikey: it will solve?
[10:15] <intelikey> GuHhH 0) sudo -i       yes
[10:16] <GuHhH> intelikey: thanks! i will try to boot there now... :)
[10:16] <madindustries> intelikey: it will work on dapper (theoretically) Do you need ff to download?
[10:16] <intelikey> not sure about the  -u switch in the update-initramfs command
[10:16] <intelikey> madindustries no but i expect it to depend on ff
[10:17] <madindustries> intelikey: my mistake ff=feisty not firefox (that was dumb)
[10:17] <intelikey> madindustries ok.   let's work on your box,    if you do   dpkg -i gyachi_1.0.5-1_cvs_i386.deb    in the dir it's in what is the "first" error  ?
[10:18] <madindustries> *madindustries hits self on head
[10:19] <madindustries> just a sec
[10:21] <madindustries> just dependancies
[10:21] <madindustries> need to find software
[10:21] <intelikey> see if you can apt-get the deps then
[10:22] <madindustries> doesnt work
[10:23] <madindustries> cant find
[10:23] <intelikey> package name ?
[10:23] <madindustries> #1 is libgtkhtml2-0
[10:23] <madindustries> libmcrypt4
[10:23] <intelikey> !find libgtkhtml
[10:24] <ubotu> Found: libgtkhtml2-0, libgtkhtml2-dev, libgtkhtml3.14-19, libgtkhtml3.14-dbg, libgtkhtml3.14-dev (and 4 others)
[10:24] <intelikey> !find libmcrypt4
[10:24] <ubotu> Found: libmcrypt4
[10:24] <intelikey> madindustries what version of *buntu you running ?
[10:24] <intelikey> !version
[10:24] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[10:24] <madindustries> imagemagick
[10:25] <intelikey> !find imagemagick
[10:25] <ubotu> Found: graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat, imagemagick
[10:25] <intelikey> they are all in fiesty
[10:25] <madindustries> i am using fiesty
[10:26] <intelikey> madindustries are your repos in sources.list all main universe multiverse  ???
[10:27] <madindustries> yes, i have universe and multiverse enabled
[10:27] <intelikey> for standard  update  and  security ???
[10:27] <madindustries> ?
[10:28] <intelikey> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main universe multiverse
[10:28] <intelikey> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main universe multiverse
[10:28] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main universe multiverse
[10:28] <intelikey> #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main universe multiverse
[10:28] <intelikey> there's my sources.list file....
[10:28] <GuHhH> intelikey: :(
[10:28] <madindustries> k, just a sec
[10:28] <intelikey> and no i don't use restricted.
[10:28] <intelikey> and that is dapper
[10:28] <intelikey> same for fiesty just change the name
[10:28] <GuHhH> i noticed that my /proc is empty... lol. is there anyway to solve this?
[10:29] <GuHhH> besides a total reinstall?
[10:29] <intelikey> GuHhH that's in the "chroot" environment ?
[10:29] <GuHhH> intelikey: yes, is it normal then?
[10:29] <intelikey> GuHhH yes
[10:29] <GuHhH> lol... thank god :D
[10:30] <intelikey> GuHhH proc is the mountpoint where the system mounts your ram.
[10:30] <intelikey> GuHhH it is mounted if you look in the host system and not the chrooted one.
[10:31] <intelikey> but as to your origenal Q  yes you can    sudo mount none /proc -t proc -o bind       not sure you need the   -o bind
[10:31] <GuHhH> why i have thise files: initrd.img initrd.img.old on my root directory?
[10:32] <intelikey> they are symbolic links.
[10:32] <intelikey> use   ls -l   to see where they point
[10:32] <GuHhH> can i remove with then?
[10:32] <intelikey> you can   but apt may cry
[10:33] <intelikey> and you should make sure that they are not used in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:33] <GuHhH> i see...
[10:33] <GuHhH> i dont know what happened with my system, its crazy.
[10:33] <intelikey> before you remove them that is  ^
[10:34] <intelikey> crazy how ?
[10:34] <intelikey> crazy like a fox ?\
[10:35] <GuHhH> i just cant load it anymore, from a time to another...
[10:35] <GuHhH> even with older kernel (system original)
[10:36] <intelikey> fstab using UUID   blkid's   or device node addressing ?
[10:36] <intelikey> grep ' / ' /etc/fstab
[10:36] <intelikey> to find out
[10:37] <GuHhH> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=43ba880c-11c5-4360-a2$
[10:37] <GuHhH> is it the problem? never saw something like it... lol
[10:37] <intelikey> assuming that's internal hd  i'd set it to the device node and try it.
[10:38] <intelikey> you can use    blkid     and see if they are the same.
[10:39] <madindustries> john are you still there?
[10:39] <intelikey> GuHhH and i can see that that came from the menu.lst file   do check  fstab  also
[10:39] <GuHhH> intelikey: sorry, i dont speak english very well... so i couldn't understand you... what you mean "set it to the device node"?
[10:39] <mecannotread> does enybody knows chatchannel kubuntu for indonesia
[10:40] <madindustries> intelikey thanks for the source list, it worked
[10:40] <GuHhH> intelikey: UUID=43ba880c-11c5-4360-a238-d56efb322c45 /               reiserfs notail          0       1 (from fstab)
[10:40] <intelikey> GuHhH device node addressing   /dev/hda1     or   /dev/sda1     those are device nodes
[10:40] <madindustries> just a sec mecannotread
[10:40] <intelikey> GuHhH ok they don't match.
[10:41] <GuHhH> oh, okay, i guessed you mean that :D
[10:41] <intelikey> UUID=43ba880c-11c5-4360-a238-d56efb322c45 != UUID=43ba880c-11c5-4360-a2
[10:41] <GuHhH> but not sure :)
[10:41] <john> madindustries: yes waiting for the updates to finish downloading...96%
[10:41] <intelikey> di you truncate the first post
[10:41] <intelikey> ?
[10:41] <intelikey> did you ?
[10:41] <hasan> hello..everybody...
[10:41] <madindustries> john ok thanks
[10:41] <hasan> how i can ad another irc here
[10:41] <mecannotread> madindustries, ok
[10:41] <john> madindustries: what time you go off
[10:41] <hasan> like java irc
[10:41] <GuHhH> intelikey: so i can simply solve this making the grub point to a device node? or isnt it that simple?
[10:42] <intelikey> GuHhH could be.
[10:42] <madindustries> mecannotread i think it is #id-ubuntu
[10:43] <madindustries> john i go whenever i get bored i guess
[10:43] <intelikey> GuHhH  you have the root fs mounted so you can see the device node address by issuing the     mount    command in the host system.
[10:43] <john> madindustries: hope you stick for awhile to help me install the printer
[10:43] <madindustries> i will john
[10:44] <john> tnx bro
[10:44] <madindustries> ;)
[10:44] <mecannotread> madindustries, , thanx you....
[10:44] <intelikey> GuHhH note: grub will update according to your     fstab   file so if you change it in the menu.lst also change it in the fstab
[10:44] <madindustries> no problem mecannotread
[10:44] <GuHhH> intelikey: np... i know whats the device... i already made the edit... so wish me luck... lol
[10:45] <GuHhH> intelikey: the same way? changing uuid to dev node?
[10:45] <intelikey> yes
[10:46] <jussi01> Hei, does anyone know some software that i can use to edit pdf's?
[10:47] <intelikey> ok   good luck to your pinguin    GuHhH
[10:47] <intelikey> !pdf
[10:47] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[10:47] <madindustries> john you did download that last link i gave you right? (the gyachi thing)
[10:47] <GuHhH> intelikey: thank you very much... now it will work, i feel it. lol
[10:47] <harmental> just wanted to share this with you guys.....i'm proud to announce that i have completely removed my "Windows safenet"....i couldnt be happier with my upgraded disk space!
[10:47] <john> madindustries: ya gotit in my home folder
[10:47] <jussi01> intelikey: I want to edit, not read only...
[10:47] <intelikey> GuHhH you did rebuild the initramfs ?
[10:48] <jussi01> harmental: nice!!
[10:48] <madindustries> john: ok good, cause i just installed it and it appears to have full yahoo mesenger video and ausio support
[10:48] <GuHhH> intelikey: yes. but didnt helped at all
[10:48] <intelikey> jussi01 i didn't write the infonode.   just a stab in the dark that it might help you
[10:48] <jussi01> lol
[10:48] <madindustries> john: audio*
[10:48] <intelikey> GuHhH it reads fs tab too
[10:48] <intelikey> so i sujest you do that one more time
[10:48] <john> madindustries: what audio
[10:49] <GuHhH> intelikey: okay, just did... :D thanks
[10:49] <intelikey> np
[10:49] <john> madindustries: you mean voice chat
[10:49] <harmental> jussi01: i dont use windows really since i switched over a year ago....but i liked the comfy feeling of having a windows partition....thats no longer true! i wanted my 15GB back....
[10:49] <madindustries> john: yea
[10:50] <john> madindustries: can we try after we install everthing in my pc?
[10:50] <madindustries> john: try messaging you mean? (I dont use yahoo messenger and I dont have a webcam on hand)
[10:51] <intelikey> harmental change the partition type to linux  and format it ext3   mount it on /home or some place you want it...
[10:51] <madindustries> john: I would if i could?
[10:51] <madindustries> john: could!*
[10:51] <john> madindustries: ah ok me too no webcam only headset
[10:51] <harmental> intelikey: done that....thx
[10:52] <john> madindustries: status installing
[10:52] <madindustries> john: finally
[10:52] <madindustries> this is good
[10:52] <intelikey> lets hope dpkg doesn't crash on him....
[10:53] <madindustries> intelikey: the software finally worked (thnx for the source list)
[10:53] <intelikey> madindustries welcome
[10:54] <se7en^Of^9> if i have 2 computer do i have to upgrade both or is there a way to download the upgrades only once
[10:55] <intelikey> se7en^Of^9 you can copy the package form box1 /var/cache/apt/archives to box2 same dir
[10:55] <se7en^Of^9> that sounds good intelikey
[10:55] <intelikey> se7en^Of^9 ssh/scp is an easy transfer
[10:56] <se7en^Of^9> jo i am at it thanks intelikey
[10:56] <intelikey> you a trek-y ?
[10:56] <intelikey> or jsut like the name ?
[10:56] <se7en^Of^9> :) @ intelikey
[10:57] <intelikey> :)
[10:57] <intelikey> i'll borg off now...
[10:57] <madindustries> aww
[11:01] <intelikey> anyone know how to get bx to read from ~/.BithcX/BitchX.sav  ???   or some place i can put that to make it default ?
[11:03] <madindustries> bx as in the irc client?
[11:03] <intelikey> yes
[11:04] <madindustries> sry, i dont have bx, wher to get it?
[11:04] <kaminix> When starting Opera my systray icons line up in one line instead of two as they usually do, why?
[11:05] <madindustries> kaminix does the k bar resize?
[11:05] <intelikey> madindustries repos
[11:06] <kaminix> madindustries: k bar? You mean the "start menu" bar? No, it's the same size.
[11:06] <kaminix> Not that I notice anyway.a
[11:06] <madindustries> kaminix I am not familiar with this issue, sry
[11:07] <madindustries> kaminix ill look into it (it may take a little while)
[11:07] <intelikey> madindustries i dont have it installed either...   just using the binary for it   heh
[11:07] <kaminix> Thanks. :)
[11:08] <intelikey> i figure if it's not installed it can't be removed...  heh
[11:08] <madindustries> intelikey oh so what does it do for you if bitchx.sav is default?
[11:08] <madindustries> heh
[11:09] <intelikey> madindustries it doesn't read it.  but i'm writing a config for it in /etc  maybe i can get it to read from there
[11:09] <madindustries> intelikey good luck
[11:10] <intelikey> bah.  didn't work.
[11:11] <madindustries> intelikey too bad
[11:12] <madindustries> kaminix does opera have its own "start menu" icon?
[11:12] <john> madindustries: guys i have to reboot now be back in a few seconds
[11:12] <madindustries> thats ok john
[11:12] <intelikey> nope.   maybe with static address.
[11:13] <intelikey> if i can remember where my home is ...
[11:13] <madindustries> intelikey why not full install
[11:13] <intelikey> disk space
[11:14] <intelikey> hd is only 4 g
[11:14] <vbhide> hi there.......... does anyone know how i can copy text from kpdf and paste somewhere else?
[11:14] <vbhide> kpdf treats he doc as an image
[11:14] <emilsedgh> vbhide: there is a text selection tool
[11:14] <madindustries> intelikey wow, that  explains dapper (mine is only 20)
[11:15] <intelikey> madindustries no being on dialup explains not upgrading every six months    as soon as one upgrade finished i would have to start another
[11:15] <vbhide> thankyou!
[11:15] <madindustries> lol
[11:15] <madindustries> intelikey haha
[11:16] <intelikey> the disk space is just an excues not to install much....
[11:16] <madindustries> intelikey i feel bad for you
[11:16] <intelikey> don't.   nothing here that trubbles me.
[11:17] <kaminix> madindustries: Yes, it does.
[11:17] <madindustries> intelikey thats good
[11:17] <john> madindustries: i'm back and where are we now?
[11:17] <madindustries> kaminix is that whats causing things to shift?
[11:18] <madindustries> john just a sec ( i need to get back to where we left off)
[11:18] <john> ok
[11:18] <john> madindustries: the printer  i think]
[11:19] <intelikey> have a p1 mmx 100mhz  with 64m ram and 600m hd that i installed ubuntu + kde on    and this box with slightly higher stats  with ubuntu + blackbox     but i don't use the gui in either very often.   i can watch vidios in vlc with svgalibs in the console    view pictures the same way    i dont' know why i even have xorg ....   but it's pretty light, i keep it around.
[11:21] <madindustries> john open konsole (system) and type sudo aptitude update
[11:21] <kaminix> madindustries: I start Opera through the K-Menu, then it gets it's own Systray icon (always running in the background) and when the systray icon shows up the now-two-lined systray icons become just one line.
[11:22] <intelikey> i have about 14 hours of music in .ogg format  about 100 maps in .tiff format   a small website    and the system installed on this 4g hd and have 2g free to play with...
[11:22] <john> then
[11:22] <intelikey> so don't "feel sorry for me"   :)
[11:23] <madindustries> kaminix I have looked around and cant seem to find anything sry (try asking around maybe someone here uses opera) If i do find anything you will be the first to know
[11:23] <john> madindustries: concerns:
[11:23] <john> W: GPG error: http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:23] <john> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:23] <madindustries> kaminix see if you can somehow disable the ican showing up
[11:23] <madindustries> john just a sec
[11:24] <kaminix> Yeah, that's one way. thanks madindustries
[11:24] <john> madindustries: np
[11:24] <Jucato> W = Warning, meaning the process finished correctly but just warned you possible problems
[11:24] <intelikey> john that is only a warning.  didn't fail.
[11:24] <john> madindustries: ok
[11:24] <john> madindustries: whats next
[11:24] <madindustries> kaminix you can also resize the bar dividers
[11:25] <madindustries> hey jucato! your back
[11:25] <intelikey> john i understand being concerned about not verifing the authenticity of the packages.  though.
[11:25] <Jucato> no, my front
[11:25] <intelikey> and you missed my rant Jucato
[11:25] <Jucato> john: try running sudo aptitude update again
[11:25] <Jucato> intelikey: all the better :)
[11:25] <madindustries> thnx intelikey (i was finishing up with kaminix)
[11:26] <john> ok finis
[11:26] <intelikey> and it was a good one...     sort of...
[11:26] <Jucato> john: received the warnings again?
[11:26] <madindustries> ok john now type: sudo aptitude install alien
[11:26] <intelikey> well it was short Jucato   that makes it a good one.    :)
[11:27] <madindustries> which does?
[11:27] <Jucato> aptitude install by default always installs recommends too
[11:27] <Jucato> -R stops it from doing that
[11:27] <john> madindustries: done
[11:28] <Jucato> darn I'm sleepy again..
[11:28] <madindustries> john any errors?
[11:28] <john> madindustries: nope
[11:28] <intelikey> Jucato you don't happen to know how to get bx to readin the saved formats when it loads do you ?
[11:29] <Jucato> intelikey: no idea. I don't bitch
[11:29] <Jucato> er... bitchx
[11:29] <madindustries> john open the folder that you extracted the printer drivers to
[11:29] <john> done
[11:29] <john> madindustries: done
[11:30] <madindustries> john by the way when you installed alien did you hit "y" then enter?
[11:30] <john> madindustries: nope but says done
[11:31] <john> madindustries: wanna remove then install again?
[11:31] <madindustries> john what does it say before done?
[11:31] <john> madindustries: ya done
[11:31] <madindustries> john ok you should be fine
[11:32] <crazy_bus> can anyone help me install in edgy, the nice hplip gui which is in the default feisty
[11:33] <john> madindustries: ok next
[11:33] <madindustries> just a sec john im working out an issue of my own
[11:34] <madindustries> intelikey ientered sudo alien -i '/home/madindustries/ip/iP1000/bjfilter-common-2.50-2.i386.rpm   and it hangs
[11:35] <madindustries> intelikey am i missing something?
[11:38] <madindustries> john the drivers are not installing for me so i am waiting for intelikey (he knows more) in the meantime do you mind if we install the other program gyachi?
[11:38] <john> madindustries: ya sure
[11:38] <ubuntu> /nick flaccid
[11:38] <ubuntu> oops
[11:39] <john> madindustries: all are .tar files
[11:39] <madindustries> john ok thankx
[11:39] <john> madindustries: .tar.gz
[11:39] <madindustries> john the original downloaded file was a .deb right?
[11:40] <john> madindustries: ya
[11:40] <madindustries> john for this we will just use the original file
[11:41] <john> madindustries: ok
[11:41] <madindustries> type: sudo apt-get install
[11:41] <madindustries> then drag the file from the folder to the konsole
[11:42] <madindustries> (and paste)
[11:42] <john> madindustries: the files says:::gyachi_1.0.5-1_cvs_i386.deb
[11:43] <madindustries> john: thats correct
[11:43] <tim_> its not really a kubuntu issue, but my AMD athlon 1.7ghz cpu missreports in bios POST as a 1.1 ghz. but only sometimes, anyone know why this kind of thing happens
[11:44] <madindustries> tim it could be that the computer is currently running at 1.1 instead of 1.7 although its potential may be higher
[11:44] <john> madindustries: whats next
[11:44] <madindustries> tim have you made any attempts at overclocking?
[11:45] <flaccid> anyone know what is responsible for the automount options hald does with /media ... i want to make it so that exec is allowed
[11:45] <tim_> none, and its intermittant, which is unusual for a silicon bug.
[11:45] <madindustries> john hit enter
[11:45] <madindustries> flaccid you will have to ask intelikey when he returns
[11:45] <flaccid> whys that
[11:46] <john> madindustries: hit enter it opens with the ark
[11:46] <madindustries> flaccid cause he knows alot more than i do regarding the ubuntu filesystem
[11:46] <flaccid> madindustries: there is 334 people here
[11:46] <_2> well i have it loading    but for some reason not everything worked.
[11:47] <madindustries> flaccid: none of which are saying much suprisingly
[11:47] <flaccid> madindustries: thats normal
[11:47] <madindustries> john it opens ark?
[11:47] <john> madindustries: open it with terminal?
[11:48] <madindustries> john: yes
[11:49] <john> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[11:49] <john>   Major opcode:  144
[11:49] <flaccid> !baddevice > john
[11:49] <john>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:49] <john>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:49] <john> Failed to open device
[11:49] <flaccid> !pastebin > john
[11:49] <john> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[11:49] <john>   Major opcode:  144
[11:49] <john>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:49] <john>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:49] <john> Failed to open device
[11:49] <john> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11
[11:49] <madindustries> john: in konsole/terminal type: sudo apt-get install (then drag the .deb file from the folder to the terminal and click paste)
[11:50] <madindustries> hit enter
[11:51] <john> madindustries: i got invalid operation
[11:51] <madindustries> john ok, just a minute
[11:52] <flaccid> i don't think you can install a .deb via apt-get
[11:52] <flaccid> don't you want sudo apt-get install package.deb ?
[11:52] <flaccid> err sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:52] <emilsedgh> that should be sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:53] <flaccid> yep
[11:53] <madindustries> flaccid thanks, your right i accidentally skipped that step (apt-get for dependancies)
[11:54] <madindustries> john type: sudo dpkg -i (then drag and drop/paste)
[11:54] <john> madindustries: ok
[11:55] <john> madindustries:
[11:55] <john> john@john-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i /home/john/gyachi_1.0.5-1_cvs_i386.deb
[11:55] <john> (Reading database ... 95977 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:55] <john> Preparing to replace gyachi 1.0.5-1 (using .../gyachi_1.0.5-1_cvs_i386.deb) ...
[11:55] <john> Unpacking replacement gyachi ...
[11:55] <flaccid> john: please use pastebin
[11:55] <john> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gyachi:
[11:55] <john>  gyachi depends on libgtkhtml2-0 (>= 2.11.0+svn20061107); however:
[11:56] <john>   Package libgtkhtml2-0 is not installed.
[11:56] <john>  gyachi depends on libltdl3 (>= 1.5.2-2); however:
[11:56] <john>   Package libltdl3 is not installed.
[11:56] <john>  gyachi depends on libmcrypt4; however:
[11:56] <john>   Package libmcrypt4 is not installed.
[11:56] <john>  gyachi depends on imagemagick; however:
[11:56] <flaccid> john: download the dependencies and install via dpkg if they are not in repos
[11:56] <john>   Package imagemagick is not installed.
[11:56] <john> dpkg: error processing gyachi (--install):
[11:56] <john>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:56] <john> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:56] <john>  gyachi
[11:56] <john> madindustries: sry how do i use it
[11:56] <madindustries> john it appears that you may be missing universe and multiverse files
[11:56] <madindustries> repositories
[11:56] <flaccid> !repos | john
[11:56] <ubotu> john: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:57] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[11:57] <madindustries> john sytem>adept manager
[11:57] <madindustries> john: or system>synaptic manager
[11:57] <john> madindustries: ok
[11:58] <madindustries> john is it open?
[11:59] <john> madindustries: ya what will i find
[11:59] <contrast83> I made a really dumb mistake - I deleted the desktop shortcuts to all my devices because they wouldn't go away (I unchecked Show Device Icons and nothing was mounted in the respective folders) and I'm suspecting this is why discs aren't automounting when I put them in now. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
[11:59] <flaccid> goto manage repos
[11:59] <madindustries> john adept>manage repositories
[11:59] <madindustries> john at top
[12:00] <john> madindustries: opened
[12:01] <GuHhH> hi
[12:01] <szymek_> hello
[12:01] <madindustries> john are all 5 boxes checked
[12:01] <shinobi> contrast83 maybe in the configure desktop kontrol panel- behavior- device icon you can check the relevant types.
[12:01] <GuHhH> im having trouble booting my linux... i end up in busybox... can anyone help?
[12:01] <john> madindustries: 4 boxes except the source code
[12:01] <madindustries> ok, thats fine
[12:01] <kogler> hi all I'm running ubuntu Feisty with kde-core installed.
[12:02] <madindustries> john select the third-party tab
[12:02] <john> madindustries: source code from the philppines unchecked
[12:02] <contrast83> shinobi: Thanks, but that's not quite it. They aren't mounting at all, it's not just that the shortcuts aren't showing up.
[12:02] <kogler> I'm having some issues regarding the tty consoles as well as screen glitching upon logout.
[12:02] <kogler> The tty consoles kinda work... but the text is enormous, and I have attempted to change it but it made no difference
[12:02] <john> madindustries: third party no entries
[12:03] <madindustries> select add
[12:03] <shinobi> contrast83 okay, are you getting dmesg results when connecting? and/or lsusb outputs?
[12:03] <flaccid> contrast83: i've had that before myself. try #kde . i fixed it by putting entries for them in fstab for /media/ but you should not need to do that as hald does it for you
[12:03] <john> madindustries: what is apt line
[12:03] <madindustries> john enter: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fiesty main universe multiverse
[12:03] <shinobi> flaccid contrast83, no fstab entries required, for sure.
[12:04] <contrast83> flaccid: Already asked in there, but thanks. :-)
[12:04] <flaccid> yeah thats happened on several installs for me
[12:04] <john> madindustries: done still blank
[12:05] <madindustries> john still blank?
[12:05] <madindustries> john: under software sources?
[12:05] <contrast83> shinobi: How would I check that? (I'm mainly working with a DVD, but I can try plugging my digital camera if it matters.)
[12:05] <shinobi> contrast83 this might help http://floatingsun.net/articles/howtos/howto-usb-automount.html
[12:05] <intelikey> ok got it all worked out.  formats and all  :)
[12:06] <intelikey> not bad for an app that isn't even installed
[12:06] <john> madindustries: u mean kubuntu software with the 4 boxes checked?
[12:06] <madindustries> third-party software
[12:06] <shinobi> contrast83 oh, okay, i see...
[12:07] <john> madindustries: sry ya software sources still blank..do i have to run as root?
[12:07] <shinobi> contrast83 actually, for your cdrom drive, there is/should be a fstab entry
[12:07] <kogler> Erm. has anyone else had this problem?
[12:07] <shinobi> contrast83 assuming it's an internal drive
[12:08] <contrast83> hrmm... ok, pay me no mind...
[12:08] <madindustries> john nvm try again and enter: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fiesty main universe multiverse
[12:09] <madindustries> (i forgot the "deb")
[12:09] <contrast83> just tried putting the disc in the other drive and the dialog came up as normal...
[12:09] <john> madindustries: there it goes
[12:09] <shinobi> contrast83 if you have two drives then check that both have fstab listings
[12:09] <contrast83> and now the originally problematic drive gives the same result... so umm... yeah, thanks anyway, guys
[12:10] <madindustries> john: good, I have three more links, do the same with these
[12:10] <madindustries> john enter: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fiesty-updates main universe multiverse
[12:11] <shinobi> kogler you can chnge the resolution of tty1-6
[12:11] <contrast83> apparently kio_media just wanted to make me look dumb.
[12:11] <john> madindustries: done
[12:12] <madindustries> john enter: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fiesty-security main universe multiverse
[12:12] <shinobi> kogler one way is by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst line
[12:12] <john> madindustries: done
[12:12] <intelikey> madindustries you and he may both want to add  "restricted"  to each of those lines   i said eariler  "i don't use the (restricted) repos but you may want them"
[12:12] <intelikey> just a thought.
[12:12] <madindustries> intelikey what do they offer?
[12:12] <madindustries> thanks for the thought
[12:13] <shinobi> kogler http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192675
[12:13] <intelikey> the propritary drivers for nvidia and ati
[12:13] <kogler> shinobi I already tried that, I don't think that's the problem.
[12:13] <flaccid> !info restricted-manager
[12:13] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[12:13] <madindustries> john enter: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fiesty-backports main universe multiverse
[12:13] <intelikey> binary only things.  because they are not open-source
[12:13] <john> madindustries: done
[12:14] <madindustries> thanks intelikey
[12:14] <intelikey> np
[12:14] <flaccid> BLOB
[12:14] <intelikey> that's agent_blob to you flaccid
[12:14] <intelikey> :)
[12:15] <madindustries> john back to terminal: type: sudo dpkg -1 (then drag and drop/paste)
[12:15] <john> madindustries: ok
[12:15] <flaccid> lol
[12:15] <intelikey> :)
[12:15] <intelikey> flaccid would you believe i'm almost 50...
[12:16] <john> madindustries: adept manager is still open
[12:16] <intelikey> so if i say things some time that don't sound quite right    just use that excuse on them.
[12:16] <madindustries> oh your right
[12:16] <madindustries> john close adept
[12:17] <john> madindustries: the information about software is out of date....close?
[12:17] <madindustries> john hit reload when it asks
[12:18] <madindustries> john sry so many mistakes (im getting tired i guess)
[12:18] <john> madindustries: thats ok now i cannot update
[12:19] <madindustries> john cant update? did it say that?
[12:19] <intelikey> john yes you can just close it and run the   sudo apt-get update    or you can use the apply and update feature of the adept manager   either way to the same end
[12:19] <john> madindustries: ok
[12:20] <madindustries> john that was intelikey who answered (hes smarter)
[12:20] <intelikey> lol
[12:20] <intelikey> i doubt
[12:20] <madindustries> or at least more experienced
[12:20] <intelikey> never mistake experance for inteligents
[12:21] <madindustries> true
[12:21] <madindustries> anyway john back to terminal: type: sudo dpkg -1 (then drag and drop/paste)
[12:21] <john> or what if you remote my desktop to see what is wrong  with this...its fine to connect me
[12:21] <intelikey> the one works only on things you know   the other only on things you don't know.
[12:22] <madindustries> john good idea but i have never remote desktop with kubuntu before
[12:23] <john> intelikey: oh i see its bcoz e: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/fesity is not known on line 37 in source apt
[12:23] <john> madindustries: source list
[12:24] <intelikey> john he told you he forgot the  deb to begin that line...
[12:24] <intelikey> i think...
[12:24] <john> madindustries: ok ill edit it
[12:25] <intelikey> or possably a missing space   that plays tricks too
[12:25] <madindustries> fiesty spelled wrong
[12:25] <john> intelikey: how can i edit the apt line i cannot open the adept manager
[12:25] <intelikey> madindustries see    smart boy
[12:25] <intelikey> :)
[12:26] <john> intelikey: ur right two heads are better than one
[12:26] <intelikey> john   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:27] <intelikey> actually i should have noticed that.   i'm tired.   but only 33 minutes to go
[12:28] <madindustries> so is it worked out now?
[12:28] <madindustries> john does everything work now?
[12:29] <john> madindustries: hahaha got it i hav edited thru kate.....yahooo
[12:29] <john> madindustries: ya its working
[12:29] <john> madindustries: updaaaating
[12:30] <madindustries> k
[12:30] <john> madindustries: ok were back whats next
[12:30] <madindustries> anyway john back to terminal: type: sudo dpkg -1 (then drag and drop/paste)
[12:31] <intelikey> !adeptctashfix | just in case, cause one never knows; does one...
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptctashfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <john> madindustries: what is that -1 or -i
[12:31] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | just in case, cause one never knows; does one...
[12:31] <ubotu> just in case, cause one never knows; does one...: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:31] <madindustries> -i
[12:32] <madindustries> eye
[12:32] <madindustries> aye
[12:32] <intelikey> john i wondered about that too   he typed a one which would error out on you...
[12:33] <madindustries> see intelikey is smart afterall
[12:33] <john> madindustries: it has dependencies which one will be first
[12:34] <madindustries> sudo apt-get install libgtkhtml2-0
[12:34] <intelikey> madindustries you have the same printer?   or did you install that just to help him ?      curious...
[12:35] <madindustries> just to help
[12:35] <intelikey> see
[12:35] <madindustries> which by the way did not install
[12:35] <intelikey> and he wont even pay you for the 5 hours of tech support...
[12:36] <intelikey> :)
[12:36] <Xunil> hey guys
[12:36] <madindustries> we have been waiting for you because it wont install
[12:36] <intelikey> Xunil
[12:36] <madindustries> lol
[12:37] <Xunil> what? got no better nickname
[12:37] <madindustries> john sudo apt-get -f install
[12:37] <intelikey> no no.   only if we can fix in 20 minutes or less.  cause i'm about to went
[12:37] <john> madindustries: ok
[12:37] <flaccid> haha
[12:38] <madindustries> intelikey sudo alien -i bjfilter-common-2.50-2.i386.rpm
[12:38] <madindustries> does not work
[12:39] <madindustries> john did it finish?
[12:39] <intelikey> oh.   well i've never used alien
[12:39] <intelikey> but i think you need some -b --build dev   arg or something.
[12:39] <intelikey> deb
[12:40] <john> madindustries: you want me to paste it here?
[12:40] <intelikey> !pastebin
[12:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:40] <madindustries> intelikey example?
[12:40] <john> madindustries: packages have unmet dependencies
[12:40] <madindustries> john unmet dependencies? which are?
[12:41] <arun> !lamp
[12:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:42] <madindustries> john what are the unmet dependancies?
[12:42] <john> madindustries: libltdl3, libcrypt4, imagemagick, libgtkhtml2-0:depends libgail-common, libgail18
[12:43] <intelikey> apache may be a good server but i found cherokee easier for me to deal with...
[12:43] <madindustries> john sudo apt-get install libgtkhtml2-0
[12:45] <john> madindustries: sry it wont work
[12:45] <john> madindustries: same unmet depend
[12:45] <madindustries> any help intelikey
[12:45] <intelikey> !find libgail-common
[12:45] <ubotu> Found: libgail-common
[12:45] <intelikey> !info libgail-common
[12:45] <ubotu> libgail-common: GNOME Accessibility Implementation Library -- common modules. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 224 kB, installed size 512 kB
[12:46] <intelikey> it's in main.
[12:46] <madindustries> right so why isnt it there
[12:46] <intelikey> !info libgail18
[12:46] <ubotu> libgail18: GNOME Accessibility Implementation Library -- shared libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 92 kB, installed size 1340 kB
[12:46] <intelikey> that's in main too   so his sources.list is hosed
[12:46] <intelikey> redo it.
[12:46] <flaccid> !source-o-matic
[12:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:46] <john> madindustries: couldn't open lock file
[12:47] <flaccid> !adeptfix
[12:47] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:47] <madindustries> nice find flaccid
[12:47] <flaccid> dang
[12:48] <madindustries> john http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:48] <intelikey> !repos
[12:48] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:48] <intelikey> also good   ^
[12:48] <john> ok going
[12:48] <Xunil> hey ... need some help on samba... somebody there ???
[12:50] <intelikey> sorry Xunil not me,  i'm like network illerate and leaving in 5 minutes.   maybe someone else.
[12:50] <john> madindustries: kate is opened
[12:50] <flaccid> Xunil: sup
[12:50] <madindustries> xunil whats the problem
[12:50] <madindustries> john chack all boxes on webpage
[12:50] <madindustries> close kate
[12:50] <intelikey> oh and i don't do windows   so that's three stricks...
[12:51] <Xunil> I switched from Windows to Linux just a week ago
[12:51] <Xunil> on my laptop
[12:51] <john> madindustries: done
[12:51] <madindustries> so it made a list?
[12:51] <madindustries> john so it made a list?
[12:51] <Xunil> but my Family still uses windows... how can I get a samba network betreen my Laptop and the Computers of my Family?
[12:52] <john> madindustries: yap but the kate opened is this ok?
[12:52] <john> madindustries: save it?
[12:52] <madindustries> xunil do you have a network set up with windows pcs?
[12:52] <madindustries> john yes save it
[12:53] <john> madindustries: done
[12:53] <Xunil> at the moment i do everything via ftp
[12:53] <madindustries> intelikey what is the filename and directory
[12:53] <john> madindustries: sudo again?
[12:53] <Xunil> but it doesnt work properly
[12:53] <intelikey> madindustries of ?
[12:53] <flaccid> !samba | Xunil
[12:53] <ubotu> Xunil: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:53] <madindustries> the source file
[12:53] <madindustries> intelikey source file
[12:53] <intelikey> madindustries /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:54] <madindustries> intelikey for john to replace with webpage output
[12:54] <Xunil> thx... that's enough for now
[12:54] <john> madindustries: he ask am i root?
[12:54] <intelikey> madindustries sources.list  in  /etc/apt/   the way you asked it...
[12:54] <Xunil> if there are any probs i will retourn
[12:55] <madindustries> john name the test file sources.list
[12:56] <intelikey> john if you are not root (can't save to /etc)  save in your home dir  and sudo cp file_you_save /etc/apt/
[12:56] <madindustries> john: and put in /etc/apt
[12:56] <intelikey> put it how ?      oh like intelikey said...
[12:57] <intelikey> :)
[12:57] <intelikey> ok i'm out of here.   later and good luck with that.
[12:57] <john> madindustries: guys my head almost poops out.....can we go to the printer issue?....very sry
[12:58] <john> madindustries: anyway i'll be here anytime this week
[12:58] <john> madindustries: or how about dinner break...good idea?
[12:59] <madindustries> john its alright im sorry things havent gone so smoothly but I have never used alien before so I cannot install printer without further help from people like intelikey
[12:59] <madindustries> its 4:00 in the morning here
[01:00] <john> madindustries: hats fine me too have soo many things from you bcoz im newbee..what? were you live
[01:00] <madindustries> SoCal USA (with the surfers)
[01:00] <john> madindustries: i mean so many things i learned from you
[01:01] <madindustries> john im happy to hear that
[01:01] <john> madindustries: wont you sleep?
[01:01] <john> ya i really appreciate this helpful channel
[01:01] <madindustries> john actually i think i will sleep goodnight, hopefully you will be back on soon (as well as me)
[01:02] <madindustries> John is there any other quick things I can do for you?
[01:02] <john> madindustries: ya sure but you know its 6pm here in cebu...soo maybe if its ok for you im gonna use my time seeking help to somebody
[01:03] <madindustries> john sure go ahead thats a wonderful idea
[01:03] <john> madindustries: well see aroung gonna go surfing automatix
[01:04] <madindustries> lol, paalam john
[01:05] <john> madindustries: thnx for the time kababayan
[01:06] <patrux> IRC/LIST
[01:10] <Fraction> hi there. got a really strange problem.. When using the 2.6.20-15 my wlan works fine, but when using the 2.6.20-16 the computor crashes each time I choose a specifik wland to connect to, how can this be?
[01:11] <Fraction> * generic kernel
[01:17] <arkaitz> Where do the download packages go when using Synaptic ?
[01:17] <arkaitz> downloaded*
[01:48] <tron__> Hey anyone can help me i cannot save configurations for sendmail i keep getting this error
[01:48] <tron__> m4:/etc/mail/sendmail.mc:18: ERROR: end of file in string
[01:51] <tron__> Support !!!!!!!!
[01:55] <kanpachi> hello, how do i change back to the default theme that comes with kubuntu? i changed it
[01:56] <combo> if i have such xorg.conf :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36544/ :: (fglrx installed) can i change the last part on [ Composite "Enable" ]  so i can install kxdocker ??
[01:56] <combo> ( ATI Radeon 9600 )
[01:57] <kanpachi> how do i change the background on the kon file manager?
[01:57] <kanpachi> or disable it?
[01:58] <combo> kanpachi: u mean appearance theme or what ?
[01:59] <emilsedgh> kanpachi: you mean konqueror ?
[01:59] <rand_acs> does anyone know how to set your default sound card, "suo asoundconf set-default-card Live" didn't work :(
[01:59] <rand_acs> sudo*
[01:59] <emilsedgh> kanpachi: if you mean konqueror, View->Configure Background
[02:01] <kanpachi> thanx!!
[02:03] <combo> can someone help me, pls ? [;
[02:04] <anandanbu> How to make a partition of 15GB in Ubuntu 7.04 which has a free space of 115gb
[02:05] <gustavo> i need some help with amavis/postfix, "Starting amavisd:   The value of variable $myhostname is "gustavo-laptop", but should have been a fully qualified domain name;"
[02:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> anandanbu: first. learn the laws of physics inside and out.  second, break them.
[02:06] <anandanbu> Daisuke_Laptop: what do you mean
[02:07] <juanra> I need help
[02:07] <juanra> ayuda :(
[02:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> you want a 15gb partition with 115gb free
[02:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> !es
[02:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:07] <juanra> hola
[02:08] <anandanbu> Daisuke_Laptop: Sorry for that actually my entire hdd contains ubuntu 7.04 and now i need a free space of 15gb how to create it
[02:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> use gparted or qtparted
[02:08] <Ben_Cs> hello
[02:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> back up important personal data first, though
[02:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, i'm off to class
[02:09] <anandanbu> Daisuke_Laptop: k
[02:09] <Ben_Cs> i want to eject my ipod. "sudo eject" does the job. how do i do the job without sudo? what group di need to add myself to?
[02:10] <m4st3r> hi all
[02:10] <m4st3r> I installed compiz-fusion on kubuntu 7.04
[02:10] <m4st3r> but I cant see window name line...
[02:11] <m4st3r> window name line, right?
[02:11] <m4st3r> somebody help me
[02:13] <magicmike> Hi. I'm trying to have my windows ntfs partitions mounted in Kubuntu. I have 2 windows partitions. I've been trying to post my fstab but I'm not getting a post number.
[02:13] <anandanbu> m4st3r: what do you mean by window line
[02:13] <m4st3r> top of windows
[02:14] <m4st3r> window's name..
[02:14] <Jucato> I think he's missing the window borders
[02:14] <m4st3r> aha
[02:14] <anandanbu> m4st3r: in the compiz configurator try tweaking the windows decoration
[02:14] <Jucato> might want to ask in #ubuntu-effects as well
[02:15] <anandanbu> m4st3r: does the window borders show up when you enable compiz or what
[02:16] <m4st3r> anandanbu: okok
[02:16] <m4st3r> i run compiz-fusion,
[02:16] <m4st3r> i cant see window borders..
[02:16] <backpro> hello
[02:16] <m4st3r> my graphic card gma915,,
[02:16] <magicmike> Hello
[02:16] <backpro> i dont have /usr/include/GL in my computer what to do ?????
[02:17] <backpro> i know what to do thanks
[02:17] <backpro> good bye
[02:19] <m4st3r> i solved it !!
[02:19] <magicmike> Any help would be appreciated.
[02:19] <m4st3r> compiz --replace -c emerald..
[02:19] <XenThraL> hi, having trouble building wxSQlite3, ./configure just gives me: "configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash build/config.sub" anyone know how I can fix this?
[02:20] <anandanb1> m4st3r: yeah try to set it as default in the sessions so that you get the windows border every time you login
[02:20] <use> hello how can i restor deleted partition tables/
[02:20] <anandanb1> magicmike: did you try ntfs-3g driver
[02:20] <m4st3r> anandanb1: yeah thanks :)
[02:20] <magicmike> No, I tried fuse.
[02:22] <anandanb1> magicmike: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 or else http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[02:23] <magicmike> I'll try. If not, I'll be right back. Thanks.
[02:31] <magicmike> anandanb1: I get sudo: gedit: command not found
[02:31] <Jucato> magicmike: instead of sudo gedit, use "kdesu kate" instead
[02:31] <Jucato> sudo is for command line,gedit is for Ubuntu
[02:32] <magicmike> Okay, will try. Thanks
[02:33] <anandanb1> magicmike: whats the command that you gave its " sudo gedit"
[02:33] <anandanb1> magicmike: no need of colons in between
[02:33] <hanz> how do i get a program to run at startup?
[02:34] <savetheWorld> hanz: do you mean when the system boots up or whe nX Windows starts up?
[02:34] <Jucato> anandanb1: gedit doesn't exist on Kubuntu systems because it is a GNOME/Ubuntu app
[02:35] <Jucato> !autostart | hanz
[02:35] <ubotu> hanz: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[02:35] <anandanb1> Jucato: yeah
[02:35] <Jucato> hanz: but by default, KDE will restart any app you have left running when you logout
[02:35] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[02:35] <hanz> jucato, cheers man
[02:35] <contrast83> Is anyone here using Splashy?
[02:37] <javier> Hola.
[02:49] <arun> how do i delete a folder from the terminal
[02:49] <combinio> where can i find HOW-TO install compiz/xgl and all necessary drivers under ATI Radeon 9600 step by step ??
[02:50] <Jucato> arun: empty folder?
[02:50] <combinio> arun: rm -r name_of_the_folder
[02:50] <Jucato> !compiz | combinio
[02:50] <ubotu> combinio: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:50] <Jucato> arun: yeah that command. be careful though, once rm'ed, there's no restore
[02:51] <combinio> Jucato: thx :)
[02:51] <arun> Jucato: alright, thanks
[02:53] <combinio> Jucato: where can i find out which drivers i have installed ? XGL or AIGLX ??
[02:53] <combinio> - just can't remember ^^
[02:54] <Jucato> um.. don't know.sorry.
[02:54] <Jucato> and they aren't drivers I think
[02:54] <combinio> Jucato: key
[02:55] <m4st3r> HI
[02:56] <Jucato> !hi | m4st3r
[02:56] <ubotu> m4st3r: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:56] <m4st3r> on kubuntu
[02:56] <m4st3r> auto start program
[02:56] <m4st3r> ....a -_-;
[02:57] <m4st3r> How can i register auto start program?
[02:58] <Ben_Cs> what's the CLI for upgrading? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:58] <Jucato> m4st3r: by default, KDE remembers the programs that you left running when you logout and restarts those when you log back in.
[02:58] <Jucato> !autostart | m4st3r
[02:58] <ubotu> m4st3r: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[02:58] <Jucato> Ben_Cs: practically, yes
[02:58] <Jucato> but run update first
[02:58] <Ben_Cs> ok
[02:58] <m4st3r> Jucato: I wanna start command "compiz --replace -c emerald &"
[02:59] <m4st3r> How can i register it?
[02:59] <Jucato> I think there are specific instructions for compiz and KDE...
[02:59] <Jucato> !compiz
[02:59] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:59] <Jucato> might want to see that help page and that channel.
[03:00] <contrast83> m4st3r: do you have fusion-icon installed?
[03:00] <m4st3r> contrast83: no
[03:00] <m4st3r> what is it?
[03:01] <m4st3r> dont search package..
[03:01] <contrast83> m4st3r: one sec...
[03:01] <emilsedgh> Jucato: there are many question's about Application's autostartup, how about a factoid about it?
[03:01] <m4st3r> contrast83: one sec..?
[03:02] <contrast83> m4st3r: http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/debian-sid/desktopfx/unstable/fusion-icon_0.1.1+git20070812-shame-2_i386.deb
[03:02] <Jucato> emilsedgh: saw it?
[03:03] <contrast83> m4st3r: install that, then just drag and drop it from K Menu to ~/.kde/Autostart and you're set; *or* you can make a seperate session for Compiz-Fusion so you can choose whether you want it to start before logging in.
[03:03] <mikko> hm, any ideas why i lose sounds if i reboot?
[03:03] <m4st3r> contrast83: oh thanks! :)
[03:04] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ah, yes
[03:04] <contrast83> m4st3r: np. did you use Beryl prior to Fusion?
[03:04] <contrast83> Does anyone in here use Splashy?
[03:05] <m4st3r> contrast83: i use compiz-fusion
[03:06] <contrast83> m4st3r: i know. i meant did you *used* to use Beryl? If so, was just gonna point out Fusion-Icon is pretty similar to Beryl-Manager
[03:07] <Gosty> hello, i've got problem with filesystem. today i booted normal, but filesystem was read only. after restart i ran fsck to fix error which caused it, but KDE didn't start. after restart GRUB had error 17 (or 15) and didn't start too. I tried live Supergrub CD to boot to windows and just to backup files with EXT3 driver, but it's not running, because partition isn't mounted
[03:07] <Gosty> please help me
[03:12] <contrast83> Gosty: If worse comes to worst, you could do what I did in your situation, although I have to stress it's a *last* resort...
[03:13] <Gosty> contrast83: if i can make backup befare it i agree
[03:13] <Gosty> * before
[03:13] <contrast83> Gosty: Boot into a Kubuntu live CD, delete *everything* from the Linux partition except your personal stuff you're keeping, then reinstall, but do the partitions *manually* and don't format them (you'll have to use the text-only installation disc for that unless you previously set up a seperate /home partition).
[03:14] <contrast83> Gosty: Do you have another computer around?
[03:14] <Gosty> contrast83: I can't mount linux partition in live CD
[03:14] <Gosty> contrast83: yes i have
[03:14] <Gosty> notebook
[03:15] <contrast83> Gosty: Yeah you can.
[03:15] <Gosty> contrast83: I tried to mount it but not successful. Windows partition I mounted successful but linux not
[03:16] <contrast83> Gosty: I'm not sure if you can install and run nfs-kernel-server from the live cd or not. If so, I'd say that'd be the easiest way to do backups - just transfer stuff to the laptop. Otherwise you're stuck with K3b
[03:16] <Gosty> contrast83: Where can I find the files in Live CD?
[03:17] <Gosty> contrast83: I tried to mount it but not successful as i wrote.
[03:17] <contrast83> Gosty: What exactly did it say (and what was the command you ran)?
[03:18] <Gosty> contrast83: mount /dev/sda6 /media/sda6
[03:18] <Gosty> contrast83: and before it i made directory /media/sda6
[03:18] <Gosty> contrast83: mount -t ext3 /dev/sda6 /media/sda6
[03:18] <contrast83> the mount command *was* done as root, right?
[03:18] <Gosty> yes
[03:19] <mahdi> anyone find a foolproof way to get beryl to start automatically?
[03:20] <Gosty> contrast83: and windows partitions i mounted successfully
[03:22] <whisper> Does anyone think that kubuntu is a bit more buggy than ubuntu?
[03:22] <Gosty> me
[03:22] <whisper> ive tryed both now and had some strange shit with kubuntu
[03:23] <contrast83> Gosty: Sorry, but I'm not sure. You might ask over in #grub
[03:23] <whisper> hate the gnome interface tho..
[03:23] <Gosty> thanks
[03:23] <whisper> on the other hand some things that are better in ubuntu
[03:23] <contrast83> Gosty: If you can't mount the partition in SuperGRUB *or* a live cd, it sounds like something pretty serious is wrong. :-\
[03:24] <Gosty> contrast83: maybe i can do it but this CD is in espanol or what language
[03:24] <contrast83> Gosty: ???
[03:24] <contrast83> Download/burn another cd
[03:24] <Dr_willis> to mount things one must be root, or use sudo also.
[03:25] <contrast83> Dr_willis: He knows. :-)
[03:25] <Dr_willis> The DSL or Puppy Live cd's are handy. only like 50-100mb also. :)
[03:26] <anandanbu> I have a 160GB hdd with ubuntu7.04 installed and now i want to install windows in it how to partition the drive help needed
[03:27] <hcbox> have you a partition for that ?
[03:28] <contrast83> anandanbu: Erm... I've *heard* that GParted is capable of doing what you need, but I've also heard that it's impossible
[03:29] <contrast83> anandanbu: If it can be done though, you'll need to make a new ext3 partition, move the current ubuntu installation to that, then install Windows. Just remember Windows has to be on the primary partition.
[03:30] <Dr_willis> gparted can resize  a linxu isntall.. but windows tends to want to be on the first partition i recall.. THAT might mess linux up a little. but not near as bad, now that uuid's are in use by the linux install.
[03:30] <flake> does it work on sata drives
[03:30] <flake> kubuntu i mean
[03:31] <flake> in other words can i install on sata with no probs
[03:31] <anandanbu> contrast83: how is that possible
[03:31] <Dr_willis> flake,  yes. works great fro some time now.
[03:31] <contrast83> anandanbu: ?
[03:31] <flake> cool ty
[03:32] <anandanbu> contrast83: how to create another etx3 partition and move my stuff to that
[03:32] <contrast83> anandanbu: Oh, nm... Download/burn Gparted, pop it in and reboot
[03:32] <Dr_willis> anandanbu,   what will moving stuff acomplish?
[03:32] <Lacrymology> If you want to use skim (scim-panel-kde) or scim-qtimm (Qt immodule support for SCIM), please select kconfig as the config module.  <<< what does this mean?
[03:32] <anandanbu> contrast83: but to move my stuff to the created partition
[03:32] <contrast83> Dr_willis: Read up. :-)
[03:32] <Lacrymology> or rather
[03:32] <Lacrymology> how do I do that?
[03:33] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: i need my presentations, tutorials and videos with me
[03:33] <contrast83> anandanbu: From my understanding, Gparted is capable of that, but I can't speak from experience.
[03:33] <Dr_willis> he  should be able to rezise the linux partition, then install windows to the new one. BUT he will have to resstore grub.
[03:33] <Dr_willis> this is on a laptop? 1 hard drive system?
[03:33] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: no this is on my desktop
[03:34] <contrast83> Dr_willis: Are you sure? I thought Windows had to be on the partition #1 on the disk?
[03:34] <rrazpo> Hi all ! I'm a new on Kubuntu and I will to go a french chan, how can I ? (sorry for my english, I'm french  :/ )
[03:34] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: you say that i boot with live cd and create a new partition in which i can install windows and then restore the grub
[03:34] <Jucato> !fr | rrazpo
[03:34] <ubotu> rrazpo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:35] <Dr_willis> contrast83,  he could resize linux from the front.. BUT that may be a bit harder.  Im pretty sure gparted can do that.
[03:35] <Dr_willis> Ive had windows be on the back of the hd.. (primary partition) but I may of had to tweak grub also.
[03:35] <rrazpo> thank you ubotu =)
[03:35] <Dr_willis> WHat Version of windows are we refering to anyway?
[03:35] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: its XP
[03:35] <Dr_willis> 'BEST' layout would be somthing like..  (windows) (linux /) (swap)
[03:36] <Dr_willis> on 3 partitions.
[03:36] <Dr_willis> depending on your needs.
[03:36] <Dr_willis> even Best-er :) would be windows on its own HD, and Linux on its own hd.
[03:36] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: Ok then i would do by formatting the entire hdd
[03:36] <Dr_willis> HDA = windows, HDB = linux.
[03:36] <Dr_willis> anandanbu,  'formating' is not the same as 'partitioning'
[03:36] <contrast83> actually, (windows) (linux /) (linux /home) (swap). makes upgrading and recovering *much* easier*
[03:36] <anandanbu> Dr_willis:HDA = windows, HDB = linux.
[03:37] <combinio> !AIGLX
[03:37] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[03:37] <contrast83> so 4 partitions
[03:37] <_aaa> Jisao, good morning, can you tell me what printer is compatable with Ubuntu and Kubuntu 7.04, please?
[03:37] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: can't understand HDA = windows, HDB = linux.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> anandanbu,  Ok.. some how we all are confused now.. you got ONE or 2 hard DRIVES.. not partitions...
[03:37] <contrast83> anandanbu: one hard drive for windows, another for linux
[03:37] <Dr_willis> hard drives = little silver box' :)
[03:37] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: I have only one 160GB HDD with Ubuntu7.04 installed
[03:38] <Dr_willis> anandanbu,   Cant afford to go get a 2nd hd eh..
[03:38] <Dr_willis> easiest thing to do would be get a 2nd hd.. put it on primary ide channel. Install windows, put 2nd hd back in (on ide channel #2) then fix grub/put grub on the MBR of hda
[03:38] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: Not for now
[03:39] <Dr_willis> hda = linux talk for first hd. :) hdb = 2nd hd. hdc = 3rd hd..
[03:39] <Dr_willis> anandanbu,  bummer. If you lived near me.. id give ya a few..
[03:39] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: where are you now
[03:39] <Dr_willis> I picked up a 500gb hd for $99  last month. :)
[03:39] <Dr_willis> Indiana
[03:39] <Dr_willis> ive seen 40gb hd's on sale for like $30 locally
[03:39] <anandanbu> Dr_willis: oh thats too far for me
[03:40] <genii> Dr_willis: Around here you can get an 80 for that
[03:40] <contrast83> if it weren't for having to keep the data that's currently on the hd, this would be a lot easier. i've set up several dual-boot installs on one hd without issue
[03:40] <Dr_willis> genii,  yep. It pays to watch the sales.
[03:40] <Dr_willis> well in any case.. if the data is  Imporntant -- BACK IT UP.. :)
[03:40] <contrast83> true true
[03:41] <Dr_willis> back it up to another machine, cd/dvd/usb/
[03:41] <anandanbu> Dr_willis:contrast83: Anyway thanks for your help
[03:41] <Dr_willis> then tatoo it onto the dog!@ :)
[03:41] <genii> Poor puppy
[03:41] <contrast83> cd's/dvd's scratch, even when well taken care of. at least from my experience.
[03:41] <contrast83> anandanbu: np. good luck
[03:42] <Dr_willis> contrast83,  i recall a year+ ago..  more durable cd/dvd's getting advertised (teflon coated?) but never saw them out in stores.
[03:42] <contrast83> one day i'm gonna save up for a 1TB external hard drive that *everything* from all 3 of my computers gets backed up to.
[03:42] <Dr_willis> contrast83,  i managed to get 2 500gb's for $200 total.
[03:42] <Dr_willis> that will backup all my OTHER hd's i got. :)
[03:43] <contrast83> Dr_willis: I think I saw those back when I worked at RadioShack. they never seemed to take off though
[03:44] <contrast83> That actually reminds me of these things I saw at CompUSA though - little protective layers you put on the data sides of discs (while still leaving them readable) to keep them from getting scratched.
[03:44] <BluesKaj> contrast83, wonder what the seektimes are like on those big HDDs when they have 200+Gs of data on them
[03:44] <Dr_willis> contrast83,  these were not those d-skin covers.. this was built into the cd/dvd.
[03:44] <Dr_willis> I got the dskins.. they dident work with the game copy protection.. :(
[03:45] <Dr_willis> just a teflon coating ont he bootom of the cd i guess wa all it was.. goign to make the disks a little more $$ but not much.
[03:45] <juan> can you remove the firefox crash warning
[03:45] <Dr_willis> Whats the cost of DVD-DL media now? they still way high?
[03:45] <contrast83> BluesKaj: Well, I've got a 320GB drive in my clunker which mainly serves as an nfs server, and I don't notice any slowdown. And this is with streaming HD video from it over a wireless connection.
[03:46] <backpro> did i can watch internet tv from linux ??????
[03:46] <contrast83> Dr_willis: Relatively, yeah. I don't see them going down until the DVD format is on its way out. They don't want to make it *too* cheap for the bootleggers.
[03:47] <backpro> did i can watch internet tv from linux ??????
[03:48] <contrast83> juan: Not that I know of, although there is a (very over-kill) workaround. Install the TabMixPlus extension. Last time I used it, it had an option for disabling Firefox's session manager.
[03:48] <BluesKaj> clunker eh ? , well that's reassuring , contrast83
[03:49] <backpro> the edgy ubuntu is dapper or Feisty
[03:49] <backpro> the edgy ubuntu is dapper or Feisty ???????
[03:49] <contrast83> repeating your question doesn't yield quicker responses
[03:49] <contrast83> repeating your question doesn't yield quicker responses!!!!!!!
[03:49] <backpro> ok iam sorry
[03:49] <kalorin> is there an echo echo echo echo in here?
[03:50] <Tomi-idle> backpro: yes you can watch tv, edgy is another version of ubuntu. there's also dapper, feisty, gutsy
[03:50] <Tomi-idle> and some older ones
[03:50] <contrast83> backpro: dapper=6.06, edgy=6.10, feisty=7.04...
[03:50] <juan> contrast83: thx, thats abit overkill i just dont want to be warned that its restoring the session
[03:54] <contrast83> juan: sorry, not sure... although it wouldn't surprise me if there's an extension that does just that and nothing else. might have to do some searching though.
[03:54] <magicmike> jucato: I was able to get the first windows parttion mounted. However the second partition I get line 15 in /etc/fstab is bad. mount: can't find /dev/hdb5 in /fstab/ or /etc/mtabetc
[03:55] <_RappeR_> heLLo
[03:55] <magicmike> Sorry, typo! Forget last etc in that
[03:55] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  try a 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb' see what it shows for that disk.
[03:55] <_RappeR_> hey
[03:55] <Dr_willis> Hello _RappeR_
[03:55] <_RappeR_> is there anyone who can help me to install flash
[03:55] <_RappeR_> player
[03:55] <_RappeR_> on ubuntu 7.04
[03:55] <Dr_willis> !flash
[03:55] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:56] <_RappeR_> thx
[03:56] <_RappeR_> i wiew
[03:56] <_RappeR_> the faq
[03:56] <magicmike> It shows /dev/hdb1   *           1       15131   121539726    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:57] <contrast83> !gnash
[03:57] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[03:57] <magicmike> And /dev/hdb2           15132       24792    77601982+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA
[03:57] <magicmike> And /dev/hdb5           15132       24792    77601951    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:59] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  and just 'sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5  -t ntfs' gives an error also?
[03:59] <Dr_willis> -t may need to go after the mount command. :)
[04:00] <contrast83> Has anyone in here used Splashy?
[04:00] <magicmike> Dr. Willis: Yes, it says mount: mount point /media/hdb5 does not exist. (Thanks for the help.)
[04:00] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  make the mountpoint. :) then try it again
[04:01] <Dr_willis> lesson for the day. when mounting  the directory Mounting TO must exist beforhand.
[04:01] <magicmike> Not sure how I make that mount point.
[04:01] <Dr_willis> its a directory
[04:01] <magicmike> Thanks for the lesson
[04:01] <sparr> I would like to connect to my VPN at work.  It Just Works with our windows xp clients.  I can get kvpnc to say that I am connected, and i have a somewhat sensible looking ppp0 device after that, but nothing else seems to work.  Help?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> mkdir /media/whatever-the-heck-ya-want
[04:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:01] <Dr_willis> well wioth a sudo at the front
[04:02] <magicmike> I guess it has to be different from the mount point for the other Windows partition?
[04:02] <Dr_willis>  some of them have a hard time understanding the need to put a 'space' after the command
[04:03] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  well that makes SENCE. :) unless you dont want to access the OTHER partition any more.
[04:03] <Dr_willis> you can sort of 'hide' a partition/directory  that way
[04:03] <Dr_willis> but not what you are tryign to do. heh.
[04:03] <contrast83> Aaaahahahahaaaa.... I think I finally got Splashy to play nice. :-D
[04:03] <contrast83> Brb...
[04:04] <magicmike> Okay will try.
[04:04] <Dr_willis> in my '/media/hda1' dir * NOT the mounted dir * i make a file called 'HDA1_IS_Not_Mounted' :) then when i mount it.. that file is no longer there.. the stuff from hda1 is.
[04:04] <drag0_> wauuuuuuuuuuup?!
[04:04] <drag0_> *>z<*
[04:04] <_RappeR_> hey
[04:04] <_RappeR_> ivan@ivan:~$ tar -zxf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[04:04] <_RappeR_> tar: install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:04] <_RappeR_> look
[04:05] <_RappeR_> what's the problem
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Hmm- i always just used the apt-get install commands to isntall flash.
[04:05] <Jucato> _RappeR_: don't you want to just install Flash 9 from Add/Remove Programs?
[04:05] <Dr_willis> the howto is saying to use that tar.gz?
[04:05] <_RappeR_> there isn't in add/remove
[04:05] <Jucato> we have it in the repositories. no need to manually download and install i
[04:05] <Jucato> it*
[04:06] <Dr_willis> You need to enable the other repositories.
[04:06] <_RappeR_> how
[04:06] <_RappeR_> ?
[04:06] <Jucato> _RappeR_: Feisty or Dapper?
[04:06] <Jucato> are you on Feisty, Edgy or Dapper?
[04:06] <_RappeR_> feisty
[04:06] <Dr_willis> I though there were some check box's :) somewhere.
[04:06] <Jucato> it should be enabled by default
[04:06] <Jucato> if not, go to System -> Adept Manager and search for flashplugin-nonfree
[04:08] <magicmike> Okay Dr. Willis, I'll reboot and see what gives. BRB
[04:08] <Dr_willis> reboot? you aint in linux right now eh?
[04:09] <magicmike> Well, yea, I am.
[04:09] <drag0_> so 4what ?:P
[04:09] <Dr_willis> ok.. another lesson...
[04:09] <Dr_willis> the 'mount /whatever/ whever stuff ' does NOT survive a reboot.
[04:09] <Dr_willis>  for permenet mounting. thats what the /etc/fstab file is for,
[04:10] <magicmike> I created a directory named lazerfunk. Yea, I'm trying the permanent mounting.
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Then you need to properly create a fstab line for the drive.
[04:10] <Ben_Cs> hi
[04:10] <magicmike> So I'll need to reboot huh?
[04:10] <_RappeR_> where i can find the firefox folder
[04:10] <_RappeR_> in linux
[04:10] <_RappeR_> ?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> THEn use 'sudo mount -a' to mount it.
[04:10] <Ben_Cs> what's the best virtual machine for kubuntu?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> _RappeR_,  its in .mozilla/ I belive
[04:11] <DaSkreech> _RappeR_: the Folder?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> Ben_Cs,  vmware server is free.. or theres virtualbox. (its gpl-free)
[04:11] <Jucato> _RappeR_: try this command in Konsole, "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[04:11] <_RappeR_> i must teke in the downloaded plug-ins
[04:11] <xevil> I'm having issues with Konqueror... my internet connection is up but Konqueror returns an error that it can't connect to host... any suggestions
[04:11] <Dr_willis> xevil,  other browsers work? irc works?
[04:12] <xevil> irc is working now...
[04:12] <_RappeR_> the terminal says me obsolet packet
[04:12] <xevil> this is a new install and konqueror is the only browser at the moment
[04:13] <Jucato> hm.. strange...
[04:13] <Dr_willis> you might want to  update/upgrade  befor doing much else. Incase its a known/fixed bug.
[04:13] <xevil> Dr_willis: good point...
[04:13] <_RappeR_> i must the flash player to saw youtube videos
[04:14] <drag0>  :|
[04:16] <_RappeR_> im try to paste it manually but he says : you do not have permissions to paste
[04:16] <kaminix|benkyou> Anyone know a good application to make schedules? I need to make a stylish and printable school schedule.
[04:16] <magicmike> Dr. Willis: Haven't really got the full gist of it but the drive is now mounted. Thanks. I can never remember all these sudo commands. Is there a place where they can all be located?
[04:16] <soc> hi
[04:16] <soc> kde4beta2 has been released, will there be updated packages in gutsy, kubuntu.com or backports?
[04:17] <BluesKaj> magicmike, i just copied them into a text file , which can copy and paste from
[04:17] <nodesert> how can i learn the name of my computer?
[04:18] <Jucato> name? as in hostname? it's usually username@hostname in Konsole
[04:18] <xp_killer> what is the super button? BluesKaj
[04:18] <sparr> xp_killer: usually the 'windows' key
[04:19] <magicmike> Good idea. Also how can you tell which distro you're running?
[04:19] <bona> hi, where can i find a driver for my "fujitsu siemens"-Mouse?
[04:19] <BluesKaj> magicmike,lsb_release -a
[04:19] <Jucato> !version | magicmike
[04:19] <ubotu> magicmike: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[04:20] <_RappeR_> jucato
[04:20] <Jucato> kernel version: uname -r
[04:20] <Jucato> _RappeR_: can you run "sudo apt-get update" then try to install flashplugin-nonfree again?
[04:20] <Ben_Cs> Dr_willis: and the better one is?
[04:20] <Jucato> otherwise, I'm not familiar with manually installing Flash
[04:20] <Jucato> !flash | _RappeR_
[04:20] <ubotu> _RappeR_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:21] <_RappeR_> how i can paste the plugins in firefox folder
[04:21] <_RappeR_> ?
[04:21] <Jucato> _RappeR_: I don't  know how to handle Flash + Firefox because I rarely use Firefox and I install using flashplugin-nonfree
[04:21] <Jucato> _RappeR_: can you run "sudo apt-get update" then try to "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" again?
[04:21] <_RappeR_> wait a'm try again
[04:22] <_RappeR_> nop
[04:22] <elzbal> I joined this conversation halfway through... are you on AMD64?
[04:22] <elzbal> And on Feisty?
[04:22] <magicmike> I'm running 6.06 Dapper. Should I upgrade?
[04:23] <_RappeR_> amd64
[04:23] <DaSkreech> magicmike: or cat /etc/issue
[04:23] <Jucato> !flash64
[04:23] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[04:23] <Jucato> no wonder it didn't work hehehe
[04:24] <_RappeR_> ok
[04:24] <_RappeR_> thZ
[04:24] <elzbal> Flash on amd64 is a bit of a "special case". I used a script found here. It worked like a champ.    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924
[04:27] <elzbal> _RappeR_, I like the method from the forum/script a bit better than the manual-install-firefox-64... the script installs nspluginwrapper (which will be used by Gutsy too).
[04:27] <DaSkreech> magicmike: What reasons would you have for upgrading?
[04:27] <elzbal> Also, after that, Flash is working in Konqueror as well, since it picks up your Mozilla plugins.
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Ezekeel: Welcome to the world of Amarok
[04:27] <Ezekeel> hehe
[04:28] <juan> to the nice person who tried to help me before it turns out there is a solution in about:config but i had to add the setting myself
[04:29] <magicmike> Just inquiring. I'm happy with the present performance but I sounds like I'm running an older distro.
[04:30] <Jucato> magicmike: Dapper is old if you take into account software versions. but that's what an LTS (Long Term Support) is supposed to be
[04:30] <Jucato> rock stable by being old :)
[04:30] <_RappeR_> elzbal thanKz
[04:31] <_RappeR_> now the videos on youtube workZ
[04:31] <_RappeR_> gOOd Bye
[04:31] <elzbal> magicmike: That sounds like a question only you can answer. I personally prefer running a hair behind "bleeding edge", but there is a school of thought "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
[04:31] <elzbal> _RappeR_ you're welcome :)
[04:31] <_RappeR_> jucato thanks for help
[04:31] <_RappeR_> jucato thanks for help
[04:31] <_RappeR_> ciaoX
[04:31] <magicmike> elzbal. I can live with that thinking. LOL Thanks.
[04:32] <magicmike> To all
[04:33] <genii> !helpersnack | Jucato
[04:33] <ubotu> Jucato: Wow!   -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:39] <BluesKaj> backpro_, ktorrent
[04:39] <Jucato> kazaa doesn't use torrents iirc
[04:40] <BluesKaj> oops backpro_ mldonkey
[04:40] <BluesKaj> or kmldonkey
[04:41] <BluesKaj> amule and frostwire are full of fake files and ads
[04:41] <kkathman> true that
[04:42] <Jucato> and virus and spyware... but we dont worry about that here right? :)
[04:42] <BluesKaj> hehe
[04:42] <backpro__> i lose my default sources.list
[04:43] <backpro__> what to do ?
[04:43] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[04:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:43] <DaSkreech> bam!
[04:45] <magicmike> Hey jucato do you run antivirus program here?
[04:46] <Jucato> I personally don't.... but I might, just for Windows people
[04:46] <DaSkreech> !antivirus
[04:46] <stdin> virus? what's that then? :p
[04:46] <Jucato> I might be receiving files that might be infected and unwittingly propagate them
[04:46] <DaSkreech> stdin: Like the flu in winter
[04:46] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:47] <stdin> DaSkreech: last time I got the flu was in the summer
[04:47] <[GuS] > Antivirus? what is that? :P
[04:47] <DaSkreech> !antivrus | [GuS]
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about antivrus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <feimao> !sound
[04:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:47] <genii> Thats a thing you put on windows operating systems
[04:47] <[GuS] > DaSkreech: i said it as a joke... cause i do not use antivirus no linux :P
[04:48] <DaSkreech> [GuS] : I know I was being purposely annoying otherwise I would have corrected myself
[04:48] <[GuS] > lol
[04:48] <kaminix|benkyou> Okay, I have two problems when printing a schedule in KOrganizer. 1) It shows only the names of my lessons, not when they start or their location. 2) The text is too smal, it's ugly.
[04:49] <Albert> Hello ! I would like to know if someone here use a laptop HP Pavilion dv9592ef (or dv95xx) ?
[04:49] <BluesKaj> I just make sure I have a good antivirus on my windoes partition
[04:50] <andreasn> hi all! How do I add a ksplash-screen in the control-center (gutsy)?
[04:51] <arkygeek> hi everyone.  I am coming at you live from a 24" iMac =)
[04:52] <BluesKaj> arkygeek, nothing like making ppl envious right off the top :)
[04:52] <arkygeek> I have triple boot set up (it's a thing of beauty ;-) )  I have a couple of questions though...
[04:52] <arkygeek> BluesKaj: heh
[04:52] <BluesKaj> sounds like you don't need any help here :)
[04:52] <DaSkreech> arkygeek: Mac Linux and Solaris?
[04:53] <arkygeek> well, I am struggling with the sound...
[04:53] <DaSkreech> !sound
[04:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:53] <Albert> !sound
[04:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:54] <arkygeek> DaSkreech: :-(  sadly, I have xp installed... I probably will never use it, as I can build my app's pkgs in vmware, but I I thought I would do it so I can show it off to my mates ;-)
[04:55] <DaSkreech> arkygeek: Should have done Vista
[04:55] <arkygeek> nothx
[04:55] <DaSkreech> So you could parallels them side by side to showcase how much better the other two are while taking up less resources
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Would be really fun :)
[04:56] <arkygeek> ahhh  heh
[05:05] <buggie> what can I use to rip audio tracks to mp3?  I've got kubuntu feisty and I've installed medibuntu repositories.  I thought I could use k3b as I've installed the mad mp3 libs, but it only lets me rip to wav and ogg...
[05:05] <billy> salut
[05:06] <magicmike> Any easy to follow instructions on working with and installing tar.gz files?
[05:06] <buggie> cli - tar -xzvf <filename>
[05:06] <buggie> sorry, that was just a command
[05:07] <genii> man tar
[05:07] <buggie> man tar?
[05:07] <pag> buggie, install (at least) lame
[05:07] <magicmike> ?
[05:07] <pag> !info lame | buggie
[05:07] <ubotu> buggie: lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[05:07] <magicmike> Speak newbie pleez.
[05:08] <pag> magicmike, .tar.gz is a compressed archive - just like .rar or .zip
[05:08] <genii> magicmike: Most commands or apps on linux, especially system type commands have a manpage or manual for them. you see the manual for a particular thing by going: man <thing>
[05:08] <buggie> will lame give me a gui? or is it exclusively cli?
[05:08] <stdin> !man
[05:08] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:08] <pag> magicmike, you can unpack them by rightclicking and selecting Extract
[05:09] <pag> buggie, it's a library that other GUIs may use.
[05:09] <Jucato> buggie: neither. it's just a library.
[05:09] <buggie> pag: oic
[05:09] <buggie> so having lame, what could I then use to rip to mp3?  k3b?
[05:09] <Jucato> !ripping | buggie
[05:09] <ubotu> buggie: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[05:10] <tim_away> magicmike: installing tar file: the stuff in most tar files is code, like that programmers write. how exactly you install the stuff in it depends on what language its in, so first we'll get it out of the tar:
[05:10] <tim_away> "tar -xzf FILENAME.tar.gz".
[05:11] <tim_away> type that at the comandline with your file as FILENAME. probably best to put it in its own directory first
[05:11] <tim_away> still here?
[05:11] <tim_away> oh.... :-(
[05:11] <DaSkreech> magicmike: what's the file for?
[05:13] <magicmike> I have a Lexmark X5250 printer I haven't been able to install.
[05:13] <DaSkreech> !printer
[05:13] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:13] <feimao_> !dvdrip
[05:13] <genii> So it's some ppd file?
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <feimao_> !media
[05:14] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:14] <buggie> Jucato: thank you.  That was quick and painless
[05:14] <Jucato> :)
[05:14] <feimao_> !codes
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <feimao_> !codecs
[05:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <feimao_> !rulesa
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rulesa - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <feimao_> !rules
[05:16] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:18] <tim_away> magicmike: apparantly with lexmark printers: they are basicly the least linux friendly printers :( however there are drivers for some of the Z series printers
[05:18] <tim_away> which work with some of the x series
[05:18] <Jucato> !botabuse | feimao_
[05:18] <ubotu> feimao_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:18] <tim_away> but you dont know if or which one without trying
[05:18] <magicmike> Daskreech: I downloaded an X5250SampleCUPS -1.0-1
[05:19] <magicmike> Extracted the files and trying to figure out how to use.
[05:21] <tim_away> you need to build them, but first you need to build the libraries they might depend on
[05:21] <tim_away> http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_659668514_676597484_en,00.html
[05:21] <tim_away> similar to the above I guess, try getting them through adept first
[05:21] <tim_away> before trying to find and build them yourself
[05:21] <tim_away> I'm affriad if your new to linux this is going to be hard, but you'll learn a lot
[05:24] <magicmike> Maybe a new printer would be best. LOL I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate directories in terminal.
[05:24] <SlimeyPete> all you need to know are "cd <directorypath>" and "cd .."
[05:26] <magicmike> So you must use cd before and after the directory path
[05:26] <SlimeyPete> no
[05:26] <SlimeyPete> just before
[05:26] <SlimeyPete> then to go down a directory you can use "cd .."
[05:26] <tim_away> "cd .." means go up a directory
[05:26] <SlimeyPete> so... "cd /home/pete" puts me in /home/pete, then "cd .." puts me in /home/
[05:26] <tim_away> "ls" means list directory, and you can put a path after it to get it to list a random directory
[05:27] <magicmike> Okay you seem to always start out in the desktop diectory, is that correct?
[05:28] <tim_away> but if you follow the instructions in the link I posted, adjusting them for the fact they are instructions for something else you should be fine
[05:28] <tim_away> you used the black command prompt window in windows?
[05:28] <tim_away> its like that
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> magicmike: you always start out in /home/<your username>
[05:29] <DaSkreech> !commands | magicmike
[05:29] <ubotu> magicmike: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:29] <SlimeyPete> desktop is /home/<username>/Desktop
[05:29] <tim_away> oh its case sensetive, dont let that catch you
[05:29] <DaSkreech> !tab | magicmike
[05:29] <ubotu> magicmike: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[05:30] <aguitel> anyone helpme ?
[05:30] <sakthian> hi
[05:30] <magicmike> okay, I type cd/home/magicmike/desktop and I get no such file or directory.
[05:31] <DaSkreech> magicmike: space inbetween cd and /
[05:31] <DaSkreech> magicmike: press up to get the last command
[05:31] <tim_away> and press tab for autocomplete, its sooo useful
[05:31] <DaSkreech> aguitel: did you ask something?
[05:32] <magicmike> Okay, I put the space and I get the same.
[05:32] <tim_away> desktop has a captial
[05:32] <tim_away> *capital
[05:32] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,i have problem with X
[05:32] <tim_away> like I said its case sensetive
[05:33] <DaSkreech> aguitel: right
[05:33] <tim_away> magicmike: but you can press tab when you have half a given word written and it fills the rest in, so its not so much typing as you might thing
[05:33] <bonesss> hi guys
[05:33] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,when i try to restore the backup xorg.conf it say there not space in the device
[05:33] <DaSkreech> argh
[05:33] <DaSkreech> aguitel: you are logged in?
[05:34] <bonesss> where are the init files in kubuntu?
[05:34] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,now i am booting with live cd
[05:34] <tim_away> magicmike: so first you want to get the dependencies installed. most programs depend on libaries and code other than themselves, you need to make sure its there
[05:34] <magicmike> Okay here is where I'm at magicmike@magicmike-desktop:~$   Now if I want to navigate to a folder on my desktop named My Files how would I do that?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> aguitel: can you mount your drive?
[05:34] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,for what?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> magicmike: cd<space>Des<tab>My<tab>
[05:35] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  you may want to read a few bash/shell beginners guides.
[05:35] <DaSkreech> aguitel: so you can fix it
[05:35] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  the tab key does 'file name completion' makes it handy
[05:35] <bonesss> i need to play "ifconfig" in boot time
[05:35] <bonesss> how i do it?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  also rember that CaSe Is ImPorntAnT
[05:35] <Dr_willis> bonesss,  play?
[05:35] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,with the live cd?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> bonesss,  you can run commands from the file /etc/rc.local easially enough
[05:36] <tim_away> magicmike: read the guid :), after that dependencies first. open up a terminal (konsole in system in the start menu)
[05:36] <Dr_willis> bonesss,  they get ran at the end of the init process.
[05:36] <DaSkreech> aguitel: Right you are on the live CD now right >
[05:36] <DaSkreech> ?
[05:36] <ksivaji> how to configure LAN in ubuntu
[05:36] <tim_away> magicmike: and type into it sudo apt-get sigC++
[05:36] <aguitel> DaSkreech , not yet
[05:36] <Dr_willis> ksivaji,  from X/KDE? or from the terminal?
[05:36] <bonesss> Dr_willis: my pppoe connection has connected in boot time
[05:36] <bonesss> i need to execute the ifconfig before it
[05:36] <ksivaji> Dr_willis from terminal ?
[05:36] <aguitel> DaSkreech , my pc is slow
[05:37] <DaSkreech> aguitel: Oh. ok where are you talking from now?
[05:37] <tim_away> magicmike: it will want your password, so type that in. the terminal doesnt show up stars or anyting, so just type it and hit enter, I repeat dont expect to see stars
[05:37] <Dr_willis> bonesss,  if  theres some commands you want to run after the init process is done. but befor the user logs in the /etc/rc.local is a good place for that.
[05:37] <aguitel> DaSkreech , another pc
[05:37] <DaSkreech> aguitel: of course :)
[05:37] <Dr_willis> ksivaji,  the ifconfig command is used for that normally.  You may have to read its man pages and some other docs however.
[05:37] <tim_away> magicmike: done that?
[05:37] <magicmike> Read what guide? I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate this directory and you're shooting a little too much at me at one time. I do appreciate your help though.
[05:38] <Xera> I'm not sure if this should be in #lua or here but, I'm trying to install luasocket, I've installed liblua5.1-socket2 but am missing core.so, is there another package I need?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> !commands | magicmike
[05:38] <ubotu> magicmike: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:38] <bonesss> Dr_willis: ok man, i will do it
[05:38] <bonesss> thanks
[05:38] <tim_away> magicmike: the guide was the one just posted
[05:38] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  bash beguiners/shell starter guides.. You need to learn some very very FUNdamentals. :)
[05:38] <tim_away> magicmike: it will help a lot, but terminal skillz is useful
[05:38] <tim_away> magicmike: and works for windows too!
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Terminal Skills SAVE your Backside.
[05:38] <soc> hi
[05:39] <ksivaji> Dr_willis but my college system having redhat os says ifconfig is  not a command ?
[05:39] <soc> what do i have to execute to start kde4beta2?
[05:39] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: from the splinters you got messing around in terminal
[05:39] <Dr_willis> ksivaji,  ifconfig is a command.. but you may need root access to run it.
[05:39] <DaSkreech> soc: install it log out choose KDE4 from the login screen
[05:39] <aguitel> DaSkreech , i am in the desktop with the live cd right now
[05:39] <kaminix|benkyou> How do I find the gpg key for this repository? http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/kde/stable/3.5.7/kubuntu/
[05:39] <soc> mh it doesn't open
[05:39] <soc> Exec?
[05:40] <aguitel> DaSkreech , what i need to do
[05:40] <soc> currently it reads: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kstart
[05:40] <bonesss> /etc/rc.local has "exit 0". i put "ifconfig" before ou after that?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> aguitel: mount your hard drive
[05:40] <DaSkreech> kaminix|benkyou: What? what are you doing?
[05:40] <bonesss> or*
[05:40] <Dr_willis> bonesss,  A++ you are 'thinking' and 'reading' and 'learning'  You will go far.. Yes you are correct.
[05:40] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,i how i do that ?
[05:41] <DaSkreech> aguitel: Umm there is probably a easy gui way but let me do the terminal way if you don't mind
[05:41] <Dr_willis> bonesss,  the command 'ifconfig' wont do anything that i am aware of..  it will just show the inter faces
[05:41] <soc> DaSkreech: do you have an idea?
[05:41] <kaminix|benkyou> DaSkreech: I'm adding the page I showed you to my repos. It works as is, but because I don't have the key for the repo it will always complain about untrusted packages.
[05:41] <bonesss> Dr_willis: "ifconfig <IP_ADDRESS>"
[05:41] <tim_away> naa you can use it for things like ifconfig eth0 up
[05:41] <Dr_willis> bonesss,  that makes a little mroe sence. :)
[05:41] <soc> are there any enviremont variables i have to set?
[05:42] <bonesss> :D
[05:42] <Dr_willis> not sure what thats doing.. but at least it makes more sence..
[05:42] <bonesss> "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>"*
[05:42] <jhutchins> bonesss: What are you trying to achieve?
[05:42] <tatters> been trying to open mount point editor in kubuntu getting error libpython2.5.so not found in paths
[05:42] <kaminix|benkyou> DaSkreech: Using it for KDE 3.5.7 software which I did not have in my current repos
[05:42] <Dr_willis> i always set up my machines with static ips on my lan. :)
[05:42] <DaSkreech> kaminix|benkyou: Right but kubuntu has 3.5.7 repos
[05:42] <jhutchins> bonesss: the init process already runs the network configuration process, so running ifconfig is redundant.
[05:43] <jhutchins> bonesss: If your networking isn't woking, it needs to be fixed somewhere else.
[05:43] <kaminix|benkyou> DaSkreech: Really? Where?
[05:43] <kaminix|benkyou> DaSkreech: And why are they not standard?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> kaminix|benkyou: go to http://kubuntu.org
[05:43] <DaSkreech> soc: it won't start when you choose it at login?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> how did you install?
[05:43] <soc> no
[05:43] <soc> from gutsy
[05:43] <DaSkreech> ah
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Ummm
[05:44] <DaSkreech> ask in #kubuntu-devel ?
[05:44] <bonesss> jhutchins: my eht0 is configured with <IP_ADDRESS>, and it doesn't works for me
[05:44] <stdin> soc: did you install kdebase-woekspace ?
[05:44] <soc> ok
[05:44] <soc> i don't see that package ...
[05:44] <stdin> soc: it's in gutsy, and it's needed
[05:45] <soc> don't find that
[05:45] <magicmike> Still haven't got it. Sorry
[05:45] <DaSkreech> magicmike: Which folder are you in?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> type pwd
[05:45] <soc> searching for "workspace" only reveals gworkspace.app
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !find workspace
[05:45] <ubotu> Found: gworkspace-apps-wrappers, gworkspace.app
[05:45] <maverick_> hoe can i know the "dev" of my bluetooth
[05:45] <maverick_> ?
[05:45] <maverick_> how*
[05:46] <Dr_willis> !find kdebase
[05:46] <ubotu> Found: kdebase, kdebase-bin, kdebase-data, kdebase-dbg, kdebase-dev (and 3 others)
[05:46] <soc> kdebase is kde3-only ...
[05:46] <stdin> Dr_willis: not in feisty, and I don't know if ubotu has updated yet
[05:46] <stdin> soc: no, kdebase-workspace is kde4, see kdebase-workspace
[05:47] <stdin> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[05:48] <emilsedgh> stdin: which modules ar packaged?
[05:48] <stdin> emilsedgh: for feisty?
[05:48] <emilsedgh> yes
[05:48] <stdin> emilsedgh: none yet, there are some dependence issues (which I'm having a look at)
[05:48] <emilsedgh> stdin: yes
[05:49] <emilsedgh> stdin: are you creating packages?
[05:49] <stdin> emilsedgh: no, just helping out
[05:49] <tim_away> mike are you behind a router? I think desktop sharing might be the easiest way here
[05:49] <emilsedgh> oh
[05:50] <soc> i hope kde4beta2 will be in gutsy soon
[05:50] <stdin> there are some naming differences in gutsy/feisty it seems
[05:50] <emilsedgh> I hope this time we'll have kdenetwork too
[05:50] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,i mounted
[05:50] <stdin> soc: it is, I have it now...
[05:50] <DaSkreech> It occurs to me that Basket is very cool
[05:50] <DaSkreech> aguitel: from the command line type df -h
[05:50] <DaSkreech> see how much space is free on the mounted drive
[05:51] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,ok
[05:51] <magicmike> GFinally navigated to the desktop directory and it listed the folders there but not able to navigate beyond that yet.
[05:51] <soc> but i don't find startkde!
[05:51] <gustavo> Sep  6 12:25:13 gustavo-laptop postfix/local[19555] : 3B9161F4DA<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=local, delay=0.08, delays=0.05/0/0/0.04, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (temporary failure. Command output: /usr/bin/maildrop: Unable to open mailbox. )
[05:51] <gustavo> can anybody help?
[05:51] <stdin> soc: like I said, you need kdebase-workspace to get that
[05:51] <DaSkreech> magicmike: Type ls
[05:51] <soc> ok
[05:51] <DaSkreech> magicmike: tell me if you see the list of your Directories
[05:51] <soc> i'll try the main server now
[05:53] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,in /dev/hda7 there are not space
[05:53] <soc> ok stdin, it wokrs
[05:53] <magicmike> I see the list and I am able to navigate into a couple of them but one that is named My Files doesn't gives command no such file or directory.
[05:53] <soc> my mirror seems to lad behind
[05:53] <DaSkreech> aguitel: ok well go to the drive and we can see what we can clean up
[05:53] <DaSkreech> magicmike: use tab
[05:53] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,what drive? hda7 ?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> magicmike: type cd then a space then My then a tab
[05:54] <DaSkreech> aguitel: yes you mounted it? browse to the folder it is mounted to
[05:54] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  Talk about Shell BASICS. :)
[05:54] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,i monted
[05:54] <magicmike> When I tab nothing happens.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  the issue is the SPACE in the file name. use Quotes or let the shell complete/excape the space.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  in the future DONT use spaces in file/dir names. :) makes it much easier
[05:55] <DaSkreech> magicmike: it should complete the name
[05:55] <Dr_willis> cd 'whatever this is'
[05:55] <DaSkreech> magicmike: press tab twice
[05:55] <DaSkreech> magicmike: It should print out a list of option
[05:56] <DaSkreech> magicmike: and don't forget if it's a capital M for My you need to type a capital <
[05:56] <DaSkreech> M
[05:56] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,i am in the drive hda7
[05:56] <Dr_willis> and its the TAB KEY,. not T A B :)
[05:56] <magicmike> Okay, that time tab worked.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> guy at work was.. "Gee i never use the Tab key befor Linux!"
[05:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:56] <magicmike> Yea, I knew it was the tab key.  LOL
[05:57] <Dr_willis> 'click the right mouse button' , BOFH: 'how do I knwo which one is the RIGHT button! what if i click the wrong button!'
[05:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:58] <DaSkreech> aguitel: ok
[05:58] <DaSkreech> do you know of anything off the top of your head you can delete?
[05:58] <DaSkreech> magicmike: Hooray you are now a linux command line user :)
[05:59] <magicmike> When you put a space in the folder name the result is My\ Files/
[05:59] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,the last thing i do is instaling ubuntu ( over kubuntu)
[05:59] <magicmike> Whoopeee, give me my bachelors degree.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  correct. the '\ ' is 'escaping' the space.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  for your final exam - how would you remove a file with the name of '-hello' :)
[06:00] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,where are the ubuntu files for example to erase them ?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> magicmike: yes it needs to escape the space
[06:00] <magicmike> The biggest problem I was having is when to use cd / and when to use just cd.
[06:00] <elzbal> Dr_willis: With the gui.  :)
[06:00] <DaSkreech> magicmike: windows does it by puttin " " around the names
[06:00] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,can i erase vmlinuz.old ?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> aguitel: I guess
[06:01] <Dr_willis> " = weak quotes in linux, and ' = strong quotes
[06:01] <DaSkreech> aguitel: are you removing kubuntu?
[06:01] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,not
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: don't talk french to him
[06:01] <magicmike> Wait a sec. I'll creat a directory I don't want and then I'll tell ya if I know or not.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  so we are back to telling him to go read some bash starter guides :)
[06:01] <DaSkreech> aguitel: ah. do you have a seperate /home partition or everything is on one partition
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: better you explain when to use / and when not ot
[06:01] <DaSkreech> to
[06:01] <magicmike> Hey, that was Russian, not French. LOL
[06:01] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,yes
[06:02] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i always use
[06:02] <Dr_willis> single quotes. i never can figure out the / stuff :)
[06:02] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,separate partition
[06:02] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,seperate partition
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: jerk :)
[06:03] <DaSkreech> aguitel: ok
[06:03] <DaSkreech> aguitel: how big is /
[06:04] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,3.7 g
[06:04] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,i dont know why is full
[06:04] <DaSkreech> That's not a whole lot of wiggle room for two DEs
[06:04] <DaSkreech> aguitel: Well I can show you if you like
[06:05] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,what is initrd.img.old ?
[06:05] <DaSkreech> aguitel: type du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11
[06:05] <magicmike> Yay, I remove a directory. Set it off on the left, set it off on the right....LOL
[06:05] <DaSkreech> aguitel: your old kernel
[06:05] <DaSkreech> magicmike: neat :)
[06:05] <DaSkreech> that's an often asked question here
[06:07] <DaSkreech> aguitel: that will give you the directories sorted by which one is taking up the most space
[06:07] <DaSkreech> aguitel: I can tell you right now it's usr
[06:07] <danielronin> hello, I partitioned my root with way too much space (9G) and my home with not enough, is there anyway to shave about 4g off of the root partition and allocate it to home with the GUI in the Kubuntu installer?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> You can cd into it press up and run that command again
[06:08] <magicmike> Cool. I got this tab thing going on too. LOL Now is there a command for recovering some file you accidentally delete?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> danielronin: erm. Qtparted but I think the command line parted might be safer
[06:08] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  Not really.. so DONT do it. :)
[06:09] <DaSkreech> magicmike: if you delete it from the command line and you have ext3 and yuo haven't over written rm then no
[06:09] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  you could make a safedelete command, that just moved the file...
[06:09] <DaSkreech> if any of the above aren't true. Maybe
[06:12] <magicmike> What's a safedelete command? Yo DaSkreech Thanks for helping with that. I appreciate it. Maybe we can work on that compiling of the Printer Drivers of this Lexmark X5250 later.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  a command you could MAKE. :) as an example.  you could make a 'mv' alias, that would move things to a 'to_delete' dir, instead of actually deleteing them
[06:13] <DaSkreech> magicmike: replace rm with something else
[06:13] <Dr_willis> magicmike,  and if this is all greek to you.. well.. time to like we said.. read some bash starter guides.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> !info abs
[06:13] <ubotu> Package abs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:13] <DaSkreech> then have a script delete things in that dir that are a month old
[06:14] <magicmike> That sounds cool.
[06:15] <magicmike> Do WMA files play in Amarok?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> sure
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs
[06:15] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:16] <danielronin> sorry, timed out, i didn't get that reply DaScreech
[06:17] <hcbox> is it possible to convert mp3 > wave when burning with k3b ?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> danielronin: erm. Qtparted but I think the command line parted might be safer
[06:19] <Dr_willis> hcbox,  yes -  i belive thats doable..
[06:19] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,i am in usr folder
[06:20] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,what i do?
[06:20] <DaSkreech> aguitel: press up to get back the du -cks command and run it again
[06:20] <DaSkreech> it will lead you to what's taking up space
[06:20] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,what command?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11
[06:22] <Jucato> hm.. ducks...
[06:22] <magicmike> I set up my Linux on one single partition. Is it possible to create a new partition with the unused space without having to reinstall?
[06:22] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,i mke
[06:22] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,i make
[06:23] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,ind now ?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> aguitel: sorry?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Yeah I jsut alias it
[06:23] <DaSkreech> magicmike: yyeah
[06:23] <aguitel> DaSkreech , i make du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11
[06:24] <DaSkreech> aguitel: you are in the terminal?
[06:24] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,yes
[06:24] <DaSkreech> aguitel: You typed that in?
[06:24] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,yes
[06:26] <DaSkreech> aguitel: the top folder is the one that is taking up space
[06:29] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,yes
[06:29] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,lib is
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Interesting
[06:30] <Ibitsa> i set root password with "sudo passwd root" and now i can use that passwd with "su" command but when i want to edit a file as root in kde or use adept etc. i still have to use my old passwd can someone please explain what is this?
[06:31] <aguitel> DaSkreech ,and
[06:31] <deviance> Whats the easiest way to install nvidia drivers in kubuntu?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Ibitsa,  you are using 'sudo' as a user. that wants the USERS password.
[06:31] <DaSkreech> cd into that and repeat
[06:31] <rjune__> Ibitsa: most GUI stuff is configured to use sudo, which is configured to use your password
[06:32] <Dr_willis> sudo is a 'safeer' way to access the 'su' stuff.
[06:32] <DaSkreech> You will find where the files taking up space
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Its 'best' to stick with the sudo method. dont  'su'
[06:32] <Dr_willis> if you need a root shell use 'sudo -s'
[06:32] <rjune__> Dr_willis: safer is subjective. in a multiuser setup, proper sudo configuration is best.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> rjune__,  yep. then theres arguments on WHICH way to set up sudo is best. :)
[06:33] <rjune__> in a single user setup, it's fairly easy to argue that sudo is less secure then su.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Wasent theres some new Security features in  The next ubuntu release?
[06:33] <rjune__> I want kde4
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Bah. :)
[06:33] <Dr_willis> We need UAC in Ubuntu! :) that way we can be just as annoyed as in vista!
[06:34] <Ibitsa> Dr_willis: can i set different password to be used with "sudo" it is now my account password?
[06:34] <rjune__> Ibitsa: sudo uses your account password.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Ibitsa,  you are setting the root users password with that 'sudo passwd' command.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> as rjune__  just said.. sudo uses the USERS password as a 'security' check.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> you can even disable that with the sudo configs.
[06:35] <Ibitsa> hmm
[06:35] <Dr_willis> 2 paths to do similer tasks. :)
[06:35] <Dr_willis> sudo is worth reading about. you can do some neat tricks with it.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> allow user bob to use 'shutdown' but not user 'jill' and so forth.
[06:35] <rjune__> yeah, running anything as root without a password is fun
[06:36] <Ibitsa> maybe i just should study more about sudo stuff
[06:36] <rjune__> that would be best
[06:36] <deviance> Guys, to set up nvidia drivers I need to run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:36] <Dr_willis> i made a user called 'halt' once with no password. and a shell of 'halt' that way i could halt the system from the login: :)
[06:36] <deviance> Can i do that from konsole?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> theres BETTER ways to do that also. :)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> deviance,  i always isntall the restricted-manager tool to handle that stuff.
[06:36] <stdin> deviance: yes, you're supposed to :)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> but id go with stdin
[06:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:37] <deviance> So, It doesnt matter if I am running any programs?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> rjune__: KDE4 is a apt-get (and some repo setups) away
[06:37] <stdin> deviance: no, you'll have to logout and restart X anyway for the settings to apply
[06:37] <deviance> So if I run it will it take care of logging out?
[06:38] <stdin> deviance: no, you run that command, then logout and restart X, then log back in
[06:38] <deviance> Also whats the command to restart x?
[06:38] <deviance> Or can I ctrl alt backspace
[06:38] <Dr_willis> deviance,  thats what i use.
[06:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:38] <DaSkreech> deviance: that works
[06:38] <deviance> Ok
[06:38] <DaSkreech> deviance: save stuff
[06:38] <stdin> deviance: it's in the menu on the login screen, or just  ctrl-alt-bs
[06:39] <DaSkreech> deviance: or they go with X
[06:39] <Dr_willis> if ya altctrl-bs fast.. then hit alt-ctrl-del fast.. you can go into reboot mode. :)
[06:39] <Dr_willis> if you are fast.
[06:39] <angelo> ubuntu-it
[06:39] <angelo> #ubuntu-it
[06:42] <stdin> I bet there will be people asking, as I recall from the beta 1 release
[06:42] <tim_away> deviance: you got a gforce mx?
[06:43] <Jucato> there have been people asking since the review from troy came out :)
[06:43] <deviance> gforce 7300gs
[06:43] <deviance> But the xserver restart failed, its stuck on a flashing cursor, what do i do??
[06:43] <deviance> I'm on other PC
[06:44] <deviance> And Ideas stdin?
[06:44] <stdin> deviance: how did you install it?
[06:44] <tim_away> deviance: yes thats glx, not legacy
[06:44] <deviance> ran sudo nvidia-glx-setup
[06:45] <deviance> Or what ever it asked me to
[06:45] <deviance> What do i do next?
[06:45] <tim_away> deviance: sometimes I shit you not, nvidia-glx-setup removes glx when you apt-get it
[06:45] <deviance> :(
[06:45] <tim_away> try getting nvidia-glx again
[06:45] <deviance> Well, its stuck on a flashing cursor, manula restart?
[06:46] <deviance> Or does it take a while?
[06:46] <tim_away> so glx enable ran?
[06:46] <tim_away> ok you must have the package then
[06:46] <tim_away> try control z, c, etc
[06:46] <deviance> Yes, i have the package, it failed on xserver restart
[06:46] <magicmike> BBL. Thanks for all the help.
[06:46] <tim_away> and alt f2 for another terminal
[06:46] <deviance> What do they to Tim
[06:47] <deviance> I'm on a black screen with a flashing cursor
[06:47] <deviance> Hmph, I'll see what happens
[06:47] <deviance> Byee
[06:47] <tim_away> ok, so the status is, xorg didnt start? but you got to a console? and ran glx enable? and then it ocked up?
[06:47] <rjune__> stdin: I know. I cry every day about it
[06:48] <stdin> rjune__: every day? it was released today :p
[06:49] <rjune__> kde4 isn't updated as much as I would like.
[06:49] <stdin> well, that's up to the kde project
[06:50] <Jucato> kde4 isn't updated as much as you would like? how much would you like?
[06:51] <stdin> get the svn version, plenty of updates then :p
[06:51] <Jucato> twice a day if you like even
[06:54] <ce> is kde4-beta2 in gutsy?
[06:55] <DaSkreech> yes
[06:55] <Jucato> yes it is, but there's still a very slight problem
[06:55] <Jucato> you can get over it though
[06:58] <deviance> I restarted my Xserver after a nvidia glx install and its not working
[06:58] <deviance> stdin: Any ideas?
[06:58] <deviance> X wont start
[06:58] <ce> oh? so what is the problems with beta2?
[06:59] <aesebu55> I have a GE909 game pad. The buttons work but the up/down/left/right wont work. The stuff I found using google doesn't work. Please help.
[06:59] <aesebu55> Also, it works in jscalibrate
[06:59] <deviance> How do you start the x server from recovery console?
[06:59] <stdin> deviance: try the nvidia-glx-legacy package maybe
[06:59] <deviance> How would I do that?
[06:59] <deviance> All i can do it is boot into recovery?
[07:00] <deviance> Otherwise i get a black screen with a flashing cursor
[07:00] <stdin> deviance: apt-get remove nvidia-glx && apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:00] <deviance> So i boot into recovery and run that?
[07:00] <deviance> Could I just removed nvidia-glx and run what i had before?
[07:00] <deviance> The propietory drivers?
[07:01] <deviance> Or w/e it uses out of the box
[07:01] <stdin> deviance: you can choose the old one, run "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and choose the "nv" driver (not "nvidia")
[07:02] <deviance> Okaay
[07:02] <deviance> Thanks
[07:02] <deviance> Ill get back to you after I have tried them
[07:04] <tim_away> I was going to sugest running that, getting a working config, then getting glx enable to generate from that
[07:04] <yurimxpxman> I forget.. what's the command to send a document to the printer?
[07:05] <oxyman> yurimxpxman: lpr
[07:05] <patrick__> hy.. i need to configure grub, can somebody help me pls??
[07:06] <tim_away> what does it need to do?
[07:06] <tim_away> you change the files in /boot/grub
[07:07] <patrick__> i want that it chances the time and the system which it is loading
[07:07] <deviance> stdin:  I love you!
[07:07] <deviance> It works :D
[07:07] <deviance> Its a higher resolution, so i need to change that
[07:07] <deviance> But I am so removign glx :P
[07:08] <deviance> You should :F
[07:08] <deviance> :D*
[07:08] <deviance> LOL I have seen my error.
[07:08] <deviance> I installed glx new
[07:08] <deviance> Not glx
[07:09] <deviance> I am an idiot
[07:09] <deviance> Thanks all the same lol
[07:09] <stdin> patrick__: press Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst" then you can edit grubs settings, it's quite well documented but ask if you aren't sure
[07:10] <emilsedgh> there are serveral missing kcm modules, Boot Manager (Grub) Editor, X Editor, etc
[07:10] <kaminix> Is there any way to remove KPPP without removing Kubuntu Desktop?
[07:11] <stdin> kaminix: nope, but kubuntu-desktop is a "meta-package" it won't actually remove the whole desktop
[07:11] <kaminix> Is there any danger in removing it then?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> it MIGHT make upgtrades harder in the figure.. but proberly not
[07:13] <stdin> kaminix: no, but you will need to reinstall it to be able to upgrade to new releases of kubuntu
[07:13] <Dr_willis> You wont gain much by removing it. :)
[07:13] <Dr_willis> You wont gain much by removing kppp that is.
[07:13] <kaminix> Hrm... I guess I'll just remove it from my KMenu then :p
[07:14] <stdin> that would probably be easier :p
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Yep - getting where thers SO much stuff in the users menus these days
[07:14] <Dr_willis> i learn to use the alt-space feture of katapult more and more
[07:15] <kaminix> Yes, they should make more use of "More Applications"-thingies. :p
[07:16] <Black_Monkey> hi, I'm not really sure how long these things take, but does anyone know when kde4beta2 will be in the feisty repos?
[07:17] <emilsedgh> Black_Monkey: a few hours, or 1-2 days
[07:17] <danielronin> can someone help me set a new ext3 partition from console?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. My external USB drive just got a Error.. then vanishes.. :)
[07:17] <Black_Monkey> emilsedgh: ok, thanks
[07:17] <emilsedgh> Black_Monkey: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[07:17] <stdin> Black_Monkey: when it's built, depends if we dot the dependencies sorted
[07:17] <danielronin> i'm running from a live cd right now so nothing is mounted
[07:17] <Black_Monkey> emilsedgh: yeah, I saw that
[07:17] <stdin> s/dot/got/
[07:17] <tim_away> what does katapult do? I just pressed alt space and a catapult appeared then went away...?
[07:17] <Black_Monkey> stdin: yeah, that
[07:18] <jbesiee> hi, i saw the annoncement about kde4 beta 2 release. Hovewer, it said to install kdebase-workspace package that i don't have ...
[07:18] <Black_Monkey> 's what I meant by "I'm not sure how long these things take"
[07:18] <jbesiee> what to do ?
[07:18] <stdin> jbesiee: it's not in feisty yet, are you on feisty ?
[07:18] <kaminix> tim_away: Write an application name and it'll start it for you.
[07:18] <Black_Monkey> tim_away: it's a program launcher
[07:18] <jbesiee> yes i'm (7.04)
[07:18] <stdin> Black_Monkey: the 1st build fails, so we'll try again :p
[07:19] <Black_Monkey> fair enough
[07:19] <tim_away> oh I see, I was like wtf, why would you want a katapult to briefly appear on your screen
[07:19] <stdin> jbesiee: wait then, beta 2 isn't there yet
[07:19] <jbesiee> stdin: how can i be sure i'm on feisty ?
[07:19] <stdin> jbesiee: lsb_release -a
[07:19] <kaminix> tim_away: I was wondering about that prog for a long time before I found out. ^^
[07:19] <stdin> jbesiee: in konsole
[07:20] <jbesiee> stdin: thx, it's feisty for sure
[07:21] <Black_Monkey> stdin: well it's out for gutsy, isn't it? :-P
[07:21] <Black_Monkey> or would that be kept to #kubuntu+1 anyway?
[07:21] <stdin> Black_Monkey: yes, but it has to be backported to feisty
[07:21] <danielronin> so can anyone here walk me though a CLI partition?
[07:21] <Black_Monkey> I know, but it's still "out" <_<
[07:22] <stdin> ok s/out/out in feisty/ :)
[07:22] <encom> #UBUNTU-ES
[07:23] <stdin> danielronin: why not use the graphical partitioning tool ?
[07:26] <Fsh> hi i have some problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36592/ see it plz
[07:27] <danielronin> stdin:  the GUI tool won' provide the option for reiserfs or ext3, and i need a journaled filesystem
[07:28] <stdin> danielronin: it will do ext3
[07:28] <tim_away> fsh: what is bad?
[07:28] <Fsh> ...
[07:28] <tim_away> fsh: did you delete a load of stuff beforehand?
[07:29] <danielronin> how? when i the dropdown menu only allows ext, linux swap, fat32, and fat16
[07:29] <danielronin> *the create dropdown menu
[07:30] <Fsh> tim_away no yesterday i update but the internet was disconnect
[07:30] <tim_away> ah. half way through?
[07:30] <Fsh> yes
[07:30] <danielronin> possibly bc it's where an ntfs logical partition used to be? not really sure, stdin
[07:30] <tim_away> could be it got half way through installing some packages, then gave up
[07:31] <Fsh> so i think gone be problem
[07:31] <tim_away> try running depconf -a (people that know more stuff is this right)
[07:31] <tim_away> debconf
[07:31] <stdin> danielronin: ext? is that ext2 or 3?
[07:31] <tim_away> as that should install any half installed packages
[07:31] <danielronin> ext2
[07:32] <danielronin> if it was ext i wouldn't be troubling you fine folks ;^)
[07:32] <danielronin> *ext3
[07:32] <stdin> danielronin: so it has ext3 there then?
[07:33] <voln> how can i hide grub menu - timeout 0 - it it correct?
[07:33] <tim_away> sorry I mean dpkg --reconfigure - a
[07:33] <Fsh> tim_away and messenger kopete ask me for a password and that a password is wrong is kdewallet some thing like that
[07:33] <Fsh> tim_away password a root
[07:34] <danielronin> an advice stdin?
[07:34] <danielronin> *any
[07:34] <tim_away> fsh: may be unrelated, is it not responding to your normal password
[07:34] <tim_away> try the dpkg thing
[07:34] <tim_away> then go apt-get clean
[07:34] <tim_away> then apt-get upgrade
[07:34] <tim_away> sudo all of them obviusly
[07:34] <shinobi_> voln there is in fact a global hide setting in /boot/grub/menu.lst that is 'hiddenmenu'. just uncomment that
[07:35] <stdin> danielronin: you said it had ext3 as an option there?
[07:35] <Fsh> tim_away emmm ok what a password
[07:35] <Fsh> tim_away how i put a pic in pidgin
[07:35] <admin_> halooo
[07:36] <admin_> miss a mont this me
[07:36] <danielronin> no, ext2 only. ext3 is what i need.
[07:36] <admin_> oo
[07:36] <admin_> i dent go like snack
[07:36] <admin_> you?
[07:36] <tim_away> fsh: you need to type : "sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a" into a *console*
[07:37] <tim_away> fsh: it will want a password, your root password
[07:37] <voln> shinobi_ i have just uncomment, i need absolutely hide, i dont need it cause i have only kubuntu on my hd
[07:37] <tim_away> fsh: then type sudo apt-get clean
[07:37] <admin_> no thanks
[07:37] <tim_away> fsh: sudo apt-get update
[07:37] <shinobi_> voln that should work then, give it a reboot and see how it goes
[07:37] <tim_away> fsh: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:37] <tim_away> fsh: and see what it does
[07:37] <deviance> Woo, all working again
[07:37] <deviance> No propietory drivers for me :(
[07:37] <Fsh> ok
[07:38] <tim_away> fsh: if dpkg doesnt seem to do anything let us know though, cos I'm hoping there will be a load of unconfigured packages
[07:38] <shinobi_> voln just remember that if you need to stuff in grub, you will need to recomment...
[07:38] <shinobi_> grin
[07:39] <Fsh> ok wait
[07:39] <stdin> danielronin: hmm, you can try using "sudo cfdisk /dev/something" to partition then use "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/whatever"
[07:39] <voln> shinobi_i know, thanks
[07:39] <Fsh> tim_away did know about aircard ?
[07:41] <tim_away> internet card? afraid not
[07:41] <Fsh> tim_away No Sierra
[07:41] <deviance> I am trying to connect to my windows pc, I can connect to the shared document, but when I access my documents it asks for a password
[07:41] <deviance> What am I doing wrong\
[07:41] <deviance> And whats the default pass?
[07:41] <Fsh> tim_away Sierra aircard
[07:41] <Dr_willis> deviance,  default password for what>? for Luinux connecting to windows>? that would be your windows users password.
[07:42] <deviance> I dont have one
[07:42] <Dr_willis> then make one.
[07:42] <voln> what is command to edit grub menu?
[07:42] <tim_away> fsh: its a 3g interface card right? no I dont know anything about it, I'll give it a quick google though
[07:42] <deviance> Dr_willis: Is there not a default password, its not my profile I am connecting to
[07:42] <Dr_willis> deviance,  not sure how to make windows allow passworledss/public shares.
[07:42] <shinobi_> voln in kde? or in command line?
[07:42] <deviance> Damn
[07:42] <voln> yes, kde
[07:42] <Dr_willis> deviance,  i would have to suggest using winscp to transfer files then with ssh.
[07:42] <tim_away> fsh: they do work for linux, what kind you got
[07:42] <deviance> I will move the files to shared then I guess
[07:42] <voln> command line better
[07:43] <Fsh> tim_away right
[07:43] <shinobi_> voln kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <tim_away> fsh: although I'd run those 3 commands before you download any more programs
[07:43] <Dr_willis> deviance,  assuming that will let anonymous people connect. :)
[07:43] <voln> ok
[07:43] <evri2> can someone help me?How can i run my GPU at full speed?
[07:43] <deviance> Yeah
[07:43] <Fsh> tim_away no my problem with a lag
[07:43] <admin_> halooooooooo
[07:43] <shinobi_> voln sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <Dr_willis> !find burncpu
[07:43] <Fsh> tim_away is to slowly
[07:43] <admin_> pv me pliss
[07:43] <voln> i have kate
[07:43] <ubotu> Package/file burncpu does not exist in feisty
[07:43] <Dr_willis> evri2,  check out burncpu.
[07:43] <tim_away> fsh: you the one with the netgear usb dongle?
[07:43] <tim_away> fsh: or did you post something earlier?
[07:44] <shinobi_> deviance just went throught this. if you're admin on all the machines, set up the correct accounts on either end. kde lets you enter the default password you want to use for samba browsing.
[07:44] <Fsh> tim_away no no
[07:44] <Dr_willis> !find samba-doc
[07:44] <ubotu> Found: samba-doc, samba-doc-pdf
[07:44] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[07:44] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[07:44] <shinobi_> voln i think kate and krite are interchangeable
[07:45] <Dr_willis>  That Samba doc has 2 books on useing samba and windows machines and configuring them
[07:45] <tim_away> fsh: the pastebin is some apt-get related stuff, is that right? because you havent mentioned an aircard before to me
[07:45] <evri2> Dr_willis: i meant Grapic Card not CPU
[07:45] <voln> shinobi_ok got it
[07:45] <Dr_willis> evri2,  :) thats a bit harder then.
[07:45] <Fsh> tim_away Sir
[07:45] <Dr_willis> evri2,  run glxgears 10000000 times. :)
[07:45] <Fsh> tim_away My problem with a lag not a mentiond
[07:46] <Dr_willis> byeeee
[07:46] <evri2> Dr_willis: rolf
[07:46] <Fsh> tim_away The aircard is work
[07:46] <evri2> Dr_willis: how can i run that 10000 times?Use script or sth? :
[07:46] <Fsh> tim_away But is slowly the speed is slowly
[07:46] <evri2> :PP
[07:46] <tim_away> fsh: and the apt thing, is that sorted now?
[07:46] <Fsh> tim_away every thing is good !
[07:48] <tim_away> fsh: so you also have a slow aircard, right. I'v never used them, but I guess I could help google
[07:48] <danielronin> stdin: did you have any advice since qtpartd has no ext3 option?
[07:48] <tim_away> fsh*brb
[07:49] <Fsh> tim_away is not just in a apt get or not every time is laf
[07:49] <Fsh> tim_away is not just in a apt get or not every time is lag
[07:49] <Fsh> tyt
[07:49] <shinobi_> rdlc23 check
[07:50] <rdlc23> shinobi_ check
[07:50] <test_> hello?
[07:51] <Fsh> hello
[07:51] <test_> Are you good with USB sticks?
[07:51] <Fsh> emm
[07:51] <Fsh> noo but what ur problem ?
[07:52] <test_> None that I tried mount/dismount cleanly
[07:52] <test_> I get a "Mounting sbd1" window that does not go away.
[07:52] <Fsh> emm
[07:52] <danielronin> is there anyone here that can help me through a command line partitioning?!?
[07:52] <stdin> danielronin: I said you can try using "sudo cfdisk /dev/something" to partition then use "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/whatever"
[07:53] <Fsh> what ur os /
[07:53] <deviance> How do I change the keyboard map in KDE?
[07:53] <Fsh> what ur os ?
[07:53] <deviance> \\\\\ < SHould be hash but its not
[07:53] <deviance> I set the right one I think
[07:53] <uzzipher> hi all
[07:53] <shinobi_> danielronin try 'man fdisk'
[07:53] <Fsh> hi 2
[07:53] <uzzipher> how can i see if my desktop is accelerated
[07:54] <uzzipher> i know it is something with gears
[07:54] <Fsh> emm
[07:54] <deviance> Whats the alternative KDE settings center?
[07:55] <deviance> Theres one other distros use, no the system settings
[07:55] <stdin> kcontrol
[07:55] <Jucato> kcontrol is the main center. system settings is the alternative :)
[07:55] <Jucato> that is, until KDE 4 :P
[07:56] <deviance> lol
[07:56] <deviance> I need kcontrol
[07:56] <Jucato> Alt+F2, kcontrol
[07:56] <Jucato> and you're there
[07:56] <deviance> Its alot better
[07:56] <MrP> Hello. Where is apache2-ssl-certificate at?
[07:56] <Aondo> anything broken with the plasma part of beta2 package in gutsy?
[07:58] <astan> hello. anyone know how come i get the message "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable" followed by "Failed to bring up eth0." when i do "sudo ifup eth0" with a /etc/network/interfaces that looks like http://franzkafe.se/interfaces.txt ?
[07:59] <astan> (and for some reason my eth1, which is dhcp configured, isn't brought up at start-up too.. eventhough "dhclient eth1" works once i'm booted).
[07:59] <astan> s/too/either/
[08:02] <astan> ah i see. it's because of the gateway not beeing reachable.
[08:03] <stdin> astan: yeah, and eth1 isn't brought up because there is no "auto eth1" line
[08:07] <astan> stdin: ah. yes i missed the "activate when the computer starts" checkbox in the KDE network settings for eth1, that's why.
[08:07] <astan> all working fine now.
[08:08] <astan> the weird gateway on eth0 was a mistake too.
[08:09] <uzzipher> can anyone help me with accelerating graphics?
[08:09] <deviance> No :P
[08:09] <uzzipher> why not?