[14:31] <sindre> lotuspsychje, that guide is what let me enable the surround in the first place :)
[14:31] <squinty> ramrebol,  just a thought   rename /home/$USER/.config/ParaView/ParaView5.0.1.ini to /home/$USER/.config/ParaView/ParaView5.0.1.ini_org   (to eliminate the chance of .ini corruption) and then restart paraview (it will generate a new .ini)
[14:31] <MattJ100> denil: when you plug it in, run 'lsusb' in your terminal, what does it say? (use a pastebin)
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> sindre: im out of ideas then, not the greatest sound wizard myself :p
[14:32] <denil> just a min
[14:32] <curlyears> s/sunning/running
[14:32] <sindre> lotuspsychje, I appreciate you trying. Normally I figure these things myself by using google.But this time around I haven't been able to find anything
[14:33] <denil> MattJ100 paste.ubuntu.com/16362549/
[14:33] <denil> here is the log
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> sindre: perhaps repeat a shortened version of what you really need to the channel, others might be able to help
[14:33] <denil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16362549/
[14:34] <curlyears> does anyone know if a Samsung EVO850 250GB SSD work well under ubuntu?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: yes
[14:34] <curlyears> I ordered one yesterday, it'd be a drag to have to turn around and sell it
[14:34] <lyze> it works great imo c:
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: make sure you set bios from IDE to AHCI and make a new clean install
[14:34] <curlyears> thanks guys
[14:34] <denil> MattJ100 : U there????
[14:34] <sindre> I have enabled surround on a headset and verified it works by using "speaker-test -t wav -c 8". Only problem is that ubuntu sound preferences only list stereo modes for the headset, pavucontrol only let me adjust level on two channels and alsamix only see one pcm stream. What I want to do is to set the sound level as the same for all surround channels (since audio tests reveal some of the channels are lower level than others)
[14:35] <dars> i am trying to use vga to HDMI converter to connect monitor to pi3 but nothing is appeaaring on screen '
[14:35] <dars>  I just purchased pi so this is the first time i tried to connect
[14:35] <curlyears> well, off I go to the land of failed booting
[14:35] <MattJ100> denil: yes, I'm here. Eating my lunch and researching your problem.
[14:35] <denil> hehe tyt :)
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> sindre: there is also a full channel of #alsa experts if that can help?
[14:36] <sindre> lotuspsychje, that is an excellent idea. I
[14:36] <sindre> will try there. Thanks :)
[14:37] <dars> lotuspsychje, can u solve my raspberry pi problem
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> !arm | dars
[14:38] <denil> MattJ100 brb I gotta to have a bath
[14:38] <MattJ100> denil: some more information that would be useful: 1) unplug the device 2) run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' 3) plug the device 4) press Ctrl+C in the terminal 5) pastebin the output
[14:38] <denil> sure
[14:38] <denil> i will be disconnected from here for a min then
[14:38] <jair> is anyone using Telegram app for Ubuntu?
[14:38] <sindre> jair, I do
[14:38] <bazhang> !info telegram
[14:39] <bazhang> from where jair
[14:39] <jair> sindre: I did installed it from their web site, what about you?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> jair: yes, its called telegram-desktop
[14:39] <tyrog> bazhang: https://launchpad.net/~atareao/+archive/ubuntu/telegram
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> jair: just unpack the archive to your /home
[14:39] <bazhang> PPA?
[14:40] <jair> bazhang: right, the issue I am having with it is that the client is not integrating very well with Xenial
[14:40] <jair> lotuspsychje: I did that I actually installed
[14:40] <bazhang> !info telegram-desktop
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: its on the telegram website
[14:40] <jair> I am just trying to find out if there is a more integrated way to install it, it might recognize the toggle switch between Japanese and English
[14:40] <bazhang> jair, so contact the PPA maintainer/creator
[14:41] <denil> MattJ100
[14:41] <denil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16362702/
[14:41] <jair> bazhang: I did not use the PPA
[14:41] <denil> here is it as u said
[14:41] <denil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16362702/
[14:41] <MattJ100> Thanks
[14:41] <bazhang> jair you said website, thats the creator
[14:41] <denil> plzr :)
[14:41] <denil> will be back after a while :) gotta have a bath
[14:41] <ramrebol> squinty: thanks for the idea, but nothing change :(
[14:42] <jair> bazhang: I already submitted a bug issue via launchpad and also into the github telegram site
[14:42] <jair> but I am not sure if the version that gets installed using the PPA will have the same issue
[14:42] <jair> currently I have the version that it is selfcontained... from their website
[14:43] <jair> I found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2015/01/install-official-telegram-desktop-app.html
[14:43] <jair> I am not sure if give it a try
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> jair: its not an official ubuntu package yet, so follow the advice of bazhang
[14:45] <jair> lotuspsychje: to submit a bug to their website?
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> jair: yes
[14:46] <tim241> I have a problem
[14:46] <jair> lotuspsychje: I already did: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/2013
[14:46] <tim241> I tried to burn a iso on my dvd but it I can find any solution?
[14:46] <tim241> ccant*
[14:46] <jair> bazhang: thank you! https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/2013
[14:47] <jair> I will wait then to see if they come out with a solution, this issue affected the 14.04 before and got fixed pretty quickly
[14:47] <jair> I have a laptop with 14.04 and another with 16.04
[14:47] <ducasse> tim241: what program did you burn with and what went wrong?
[14:48] <RealPanV> Hello, I have an Ubuntu VM and since this is my first time I want to ask some things. 1. This does not interfere with my computer's hard drive -at all-, right? So even if I fill it with junk or malicious programs they'll be gone when I delete it, or they can't infect my physical machine
[14:48] <ducasse> RealPanV: in theory, yes.
[14:48] <tim241> I just can burn it
[14:48] <tim241> and I have another problem if I run sudo apt-get update I get thiss error: http://pastebin.com/Wgg0SNHG
[14:49] <RealPanV> ducasse: If I press "Install Now" it won't do anything to my original OS, am I right? (95% sure about that)
[14:49] <RealPanV> tim241: would use paste.ubuntu.com
[14:49] <ducasse> RealPanV: no, it won'y
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> RealPanV: depends what you do, if you connect an infected usb to your vm, it could spread to your pc also in theory
[14:50] <squinty> ramrebol,  have you tried logging out and back in again?  (long shot but I have seen a couple of instances with 16.04 where this did work for other apts)
[14:50] <tim241> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16362945/
[14:50] <darran> Hello everyone
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> tim241: added external ppa's?
[14:51] <killa> hello everyone
[14:51] <ramrebol> squinty: I installed ubuntu last week (or 2 weeks ago) and I had rebooted several times (and remove and reinstall paraview) and the problem persists :/
[14:51] <tim241> no
[14:51] <ducasse> tim241: that warning comes from a ppa, so yes.
[14:51] <tim241> I did not any external ppa's
[14:52] <ducasse> tim241: someone did.
[14:52] <tim241> yes
[14:52] <killa> hello everyone
[14:52] <tim241> sorry xD
[14:52] <tim241> how to fix
[14:52] <tim241> ? I searched in the source.list but there was no ppa
[14:52] <killa> foké
[14:52] <ducasse> tim241: install ppa-purge
[14:52] <ramrebol> squinty: but I accept more ideas.  I do not have more ideas to find a solution :/
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> killa: do you have an ubuntu question?
[14:52] <tim241> how?
[14:52] <ducasse> tim241: apt-get install ppa-purge
[14:53] <ducasse> tim241: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[14:53] <tim241> I have it already installed
[14:53] <tim241> next step?
[14:53] <ducasse> tim241: sudo ppa-purge ppa:lithid/ppa
[14:54] <chand> hello every one.
[14:55] <chand> how can i change Date format from command?
[14:55] <tim241> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363028/
[14:55] <judy> Hi everyone,I lost my ethernet connection after I performed an update on 14.04. Can someone help me get it back?
[14:55] <saurabh> judy, what update??
[14:56] <squinty> ramrebol,  do you get any kind of error message?   maybe also try using the full path to the binary when starting from terminal   /usr/bin/paraview
[14:56] <ducasse> tim241: see if there are any *.list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:56] <judy> saurabh: I had an update come up through the update manager, so I installed it.
[14:56] <tim241> ok hold on
[14:56] <saurabh> judy, that shouldn't mess up your system
[14:57] <saurabh> judy, did you install any firewall or removed network manager
[14:57] <judy> saurabh: I know, but it did
[14:57] <judy> saurabh: no
[14:57] <saurabh> oh
[14:58] <ducasse> judy: was it a kernel upgrade, do you remember?
[14:58] <Welastevil> hi folks!
[14:59] <tim241> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363126/
[14:59] <judy> ducasse: Yes, I tried starting up with the prior kernel, but still don't have a connection. I had to plug in a wireless usb
[14:59] <Welastevil> im having some issues after installing ubuntu at my alienware
[14:59] <Welastevil> battery down fastly
[15:00] <Welastevil> and overheating for no reason
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | Welastevil
[15:00] <Welastevil> coulf not find any info
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: wich ubuntu version?
[15:00] <Welastevil> 16
[15:00] <Welastevil> lts
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: could check your syslog, see if there any relevant errors or try a higher kernel to test
[15:01] <ducasse> judy: what kind of chipset did you originally use?
[15:01] <Welastevil> hum\
[15:01] <Welastevil> how to do it?\
[15:02] <ramrebol> squinty: the message is the same:  /usr/lib/paraview/paraview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.1: undefined symbol: ompi_mpi_real
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | Welastevil
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: could try a 4.6 or 4.8 perhaps
[15:02] <judy> ducasse: I'm sorry, I don't understand.
[15:02] <ramrebol> squinty: but, if I try to run paraview as root I have no problem
[15:03] <Welastevil> i see...but I dont understand...how to do it?
[15:03] <Welastevil> sorry my ignorance
[15:03] <ducasse> judy: do you know what kind of wired/wireless chipset you used before the usb adapter?
[15:03] <mrasker> does anybody know how to make alsamixer have certain volume everytime i reboot?
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: read the kernel wiki mate, its explained howto
[15:04] <Welastevil> ok!
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: did you have this problem on other ubuntu versions?
[15:05] <Welastevil> no
[15:05] <judy> ducasse: I'm sorry... It was whatever installed by default. If I check it, it says:  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
[15:05] <Welastevil> even with this one
[15:05] <Welastevil> no problem
[15:05] <Welastevil> the problem is ubuntu+alienware
[15:05] <abolfazl123> hi. i have a x.sh file.when i want run it i should use a terminal.is it possible i have an icon for it?(i search in internet and i find chmod but i dont understatn it)
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: i mean did you have the battery drain problem on other ubuntu versions too?
[15:06] <ducasse> judy: can you see the wired interface in the output from 'ifconfig -a'?
[15:06] <Welastevil> no
[15:06] <judy> ducasse: but the weird part is, it says Kernel driver in use: r8169
[15:06] <Welastevil> and with this version also dont.
[15:06] <Welastevil> but with this version + alienware
[15:06] <fub> I just installed lubuntu 16.04. I am using a Alfa AWUS30H WLAN adapter. My connection sometimes suddenly drops and I cant reconnect. I have to disable my wireless connection and enable it again to get it working. What can I do now?
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: you mean on another pc?
[15:06] <hugo> Guys, i'm trying to run Autodocktools but I keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363274/
[15:07] <Welastevil> yes
[15:07] <Welastevil> with all my other PCs it was ok!
[15:07] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363304/
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: ok try the higher kernel for test, if its not solved consider a new !bug
[15:07] <freeone3000> hugo: You need to install the oldnumeric python package.
[15:08] <hugo> freeone3000, how?
[15:08] <ducasse> judy: that's just the name of the kernel module, it has support for many different chipsets.
[15:08] <Welastevil> this problem is specially with this Alienware
[15:08] <tim241> here plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363126/ <lotuspsychje>
[15:08] <abolfazl123> hi. i have a x.sh file.when i want run it i should use a terminal.is it possible i have an icon for it?(i search in internet and i find chmod but i dont understatn it)
[15:08] <judy> ducasse: OK
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: ok !bug
[15:08] <xan_IT> hi to all, with DE actually doesent requre hardware accelleration?
[15:08] <Welastevil> yes!
[15:08] <Welastevil> I ant to debug it...
[15:08] <xan_IT> *which
[15:08] <bazhang> xan_IT, lubuntu
[15:09] <xan_IT> mate?
[15:09] <bazhang> !lubuntu | xan_IT
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> tim241: i dont know how many ppa's you installed mate..remove all non-official ones please
[15:09] <curlears> hello again.  Can't boot again. Doggoned thing claims  "Partition doesn't exist," and dumps me into a grub shell, which doesn't appear to accept any input from kb
[15:09] <tim241> ok
[15:09] <xan_IT> mate or KDE require hardware accelleration? cinammon?
[15:09] <lyze_phone> abolfazl123 you can create a .desktop file ... which is a text file with some specific content. go to the ubu wiki to search how you create one c: )currently on my phone)
[15:09] <mrkelley> curlears - did you do a dist-upgrade?
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> tim241: after all ppa's are cleaned, sudo apt-get update
[15:09] <bazhang> xan_IT, 'lubuntu'
[15:10] <xan_IT> only LXDE?
[15:10] <tim241> so I need to remove all the files in that folder?
[15:10] <curlears> ubuntu Desktop 16.04 LTS, by the by
[15:10] <ducasse> judy: the wired interface is visible, all right. i'm curious if it would get an ip address if you connect it, but that might interfere with your wireless connection.
[15:10] <abolfazl123> lyze_phone:ok
[15:10] <curlears> nrkelley:    no, still Live-DVD booting.
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !sources | tim241 check the official ones
[15:10] <xan_IT> xubuntu?
[15:10] <ducasse> judy: you could try creating an entry for it in /etc/network/interfaces and see if that works.
[15:11] <mrkelley> oh. Wow. I got that problem on a dist-upgrade.
[15:11] <curlears> How can I upgrade without .losing all my data and installed utilitiesd, etc.?
[15:11] <mrkelley> Never did find a solution, I just reinstalled.
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> !who | mrkelley
[15:11] <judy> ducasse: OK, I will try that. Thank you
[15:11] <ducasse> judy: do you need help with that?
[15:11] <mrkelley> curlears, for starters, keep /home on it's own partition.
[15:12] <mrkelley> ubottu - Sorry, I know better. Got in a hurry.
[15:12] <xan_IT> bazhang only lubuntu?
[15:13] <curlears> mrkelley: that will deal with my persobnal filesm but what about the installed apps and utilities?
[15:13] <mrkelley> curlears: as far as utilities are concerned, try keeping /usr on a separate partition as well. That will cover most of the user installed stuff.
[15:13] <mrkelley> There are config files in /etc, for those, I generally just keep a git repo of /etc on another box.
[15:13] <ducasse> curlears: check out apt-clone
[15:13] <curlears> hmmmm
[15:14] <curlears> any does cp have parameters to copy recursively throuigha tree?  I know I could just doa cp --help, but I am right here, may as well ask
[15:14] <RealPanV> It happened again .o.
[15:15] <mrkelley> curlears: cp -R
[15:15] <OerHeks> curlears, you type too much here, cp --help is much shorter and you would have the answer already > -R
[15:16] <judy> ducasse: I think I may be able to do it. I will let you know if that works
[15:16] <OerHeks> curlears, de-install lazyness please
[15:16] <OerHeks> :-D
[15:16] <ducasse> judy: ok, i have an example in a container that i can pastebin if you need it.
[15:17] <judy> ducasse: that would be great, thanks
[15:17] <Welastevil> sorry...hat is the site?
[15:17] <Welastevil> wiki kernel?
[15:17] <xan_IT> which DE actually does not requre hardware accelleration?
[15:18] <k1l_> xan_IT: xfce, lxde and mate, iirc.
[15:18] <HackerII> ^
[15:18] <squinty> ramrebol,  who owns /home/$USER/.config/ParaView   ls -l /home/$USER/.config/ParaView    it should be you and not root
[15:18] <xan_IT> k1l_ iirc??
[15:18] <donofrio> does anyone else run 16.04 and cannot find "nvsetvol" provided by "powerpc-utils" but I'm x86 ??
[15:18] <curlears> you're right, OerHeks
[15:18] <daed> xan_IT: if i recall correctly
[15:18] <ducasse> judy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16363526/ - just save that as /etc/network/interfaces
[15:19] <xan_IT> daed ahahah
[15:19] <curlears> off to see what I can do  *sigh* this is getting real old
[15:19] <xan_IT> second question: which is simplest DE that not require hardware accelleration? mate?
[15:19] <judy> ducasse: Thank you!
[15:19] <daed> xan_IT: i'm a big fan of xfce, very simple
[15:20] <ducasse> judy: no problem :)
[15:20] <daed> xan_IT: have used xubuntu quite a bit without issue
[15:20] <xan_IT> i try lxde but is very hard. for example to configure wifi
[15:20] <HackerII> go 4 mate
[15:21] <xan_IT> mate vs cinammon vs xfce?
[15:21] <HackerII> i use mate
[15:21] <xan_IT> mate is near gnome 2 ?
[15:21] <ducasse> xan_IT: xfce is more of an integrated environment than lxde, but still lightweight.
[15:21] <judy> ducasse: do I overwrite the existing file?
[15:22] <judy> ducasse: I meant paste over the existing text
[15:22] <ducasse> judy: or just paste in the lines that contain 'eth0
[15:22] <ducasse> judy: or just paste in the lines that contain 'eth0', sorry.
[15:22] <xan_IT> HackerII which wifi configurator use mate? and xfce?
[15:23] <squinty> ramrebol,  there is the following if you are feeling adventurous   http://www.paraview.org/download/    sources and binary apparently available.   not really anything concrete turning up while googling either here but my google fu might be on vacation today :P
[15:23] <judy> ducasse: OK, will it require a restart, or can I restart the network manager manually?
[15:23] <HackerII> xan_IT:  i am old school, mate is easier for me
[15:23] <xan_IT> HackerII xfce is not for boys
 I deleted the whole folder is that good?
[15:23] <xan_IT> olso
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> tim241: i dont know wich ppa's you added and not sorry..
[15:24] <ducasse> judy: type 'sudo ifup eth0'. the interface is no longer managed by network manager, it just gets an ip address via dhcp on boot. very simple.
[15:24] <ramrebol> squinty: the output of  ls -l .config/ParaView/ParaView5.0.1.ini  is   -rw-rw-r-- 1 ramrebol ramrebol 7957 may 11 02:14 .config/ParaView/ParaView5.0.1.ini
[15:24] <HackerII> xan_IT:  if your hardware is up to date, you can almost run anything
[15:24] <tim241> so is that good? will it effect my PC?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> tim241: check your software&sources and compare them with the official sources
[15:24] <judy> ducasse: Thank you. I will reboot, and let you know if it works
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> !sources > tim241
[15:24] <ducasse> judy: ok, hope it helps.
[15:25] <ramrebol> squinty: the binary of that page have not one propertie that I need (I tried ;)  )   and compiling the source was too for me :/
[15:25] <xan_IT> HackerII in normal pc i use gnome 3. but i have a hp 2133 with strage hardware that doesent have hardware accelleration
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> tim241: if you done it right, sudo apt-get update will run without errors
[15:25] <squinty> ramrebol,  yep that is the way it should be.  hmmm...strange.  can't really think of anything else off hand; maybe someone else may have other suggestions.  :(
[15:26] <HackerII> xan_IT:  then id use xfce on it
[15:26] <tim241> here is the add command I entered:  sudo ppa-purge ppa:long-jeremie/ppa^C
[15:26] <tim241> without the ^C
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> tim241: yeah good, clean them all out
[15:27] <ramrebol> squinty: thatks for your time and patience. May be I will back here in some days looking for the same answerd.
[15:27] <donofrio> anyone else know how I can get nvsetvol on x86?  so far all my installs were powerpc but this one is x86 http://apaste.info/upload/Wvq.jpg
[15:28] <judy> ducasse: That didn't work :(
[15:29] <squinty> ramrebol,  yw   hope you find a fix soon!
[15:29] <FManTropyx> answerd - daemon that gives answers
[15:30] <ducasse> judy: did the interface get an ip address?
[15:31] <judy> ducasse: no
[15:32] <Fusionnex> clear
[15:32] <ducasse> judy: weird. what ubuntu version is this?
[15:32] <judy> ducasse: 14.04
 which one?
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> tim241: remove all the ppa's that are non-official
[15:33] <tim241> Ow I see
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> tim241: dont remove the ubuntu ones right
[15:33] <tim241> deleted 2
[15:34] <OerHeks> tim241, deleting those entries does not reverse the packages
[15:34] <tim241> ik
[15:34] <OerHeks> use ppa-purge for that.
[15:35] <ducasse> judy: hmmm. if none of the kernels work then the problem is not with the driver. maybe there was an update to dhclient that broke something, but that would probably be noticed. let me have a look...
[15:35] <judy> ducasse: OK, thank you
[15:37] <ducasse> judy: sorry, can't find anything. this is really hard to debug without access to the machine :) did you look in the logs for error messages?
[15:38] <judy> ducasse: I'm not sure how to do that
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> judy: system up to date to latest?
[15:39] <judy> lotuspsychje: yes
[15:40] <Guest21963> %n
[15:40] <ducasse> judy: try rebooting without the wireless adapter, then after boot look in /var/log/syslog (and possibly /var/log/dmesg) for errors related to networking. if you find any, save them so you can pastebin them when you connect later.
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> judy: tried a sudo service network-manager restart ?
[15:41] <ducasse> judy: or post /var/log/syslog in it's entirety.
[15:41] <judy> ducass
[15:42] <judy> ducasse: OK
[15:42] <judy> lotuspsychje: Yes I tried that
[15:42] <denil> hi'
[15:43] <denil> MattJ100
[15:43] <denil> u there ????
[15:43] <denil> MattJ100 : got any solution??
[15:44] <denil> MattJ100 : u there :| ????
[15:45] <SwedeMike> denil: asking 3-4 times in 3 minutes is just annoying.
[15:46] <RealPanV> An.d.. he logged off
[15:46] <RealPanV> Or nevermind it
[15:46] <denil> SwedeMike then can u resolve my problem
[15:46] <RealPanV> denil: We are volunteers, not 24/7 support. Could you please wait becasue wea re not only in this chaT?
[15:46] <denil> i just dont wanted to lose the flow
[15:46] <RealPanV> since we have other jobs to do too?
[15:48] <heellp> heeeellp
[15:48] <RealPanV> denil: Please be patient, we can't know anything, we can't investigate everything in a small period of time.
[15:48] <heellp> i want to disable meta key binding
[15:49] <heellp> @RealPanV how do i disable meta key binding
[15:49] <OerHeks> denil, reask .. and don't leave for a bath
[15:49] <donofrio> anyone else know how I can get nvsetvol on x86?  so far all my installs were powerpc but this one is x86 http://apaste.info/upload/Wvq.jpg ??
[15:49] <heellp> @OerHeks how do i disable meta key binding
[15:50] <nacc> donofrio: why would you need nvsetvol on x86?
[15:50] <donofrio> because it turns off the reboot "chime" on my powerpc boxes
[15:50] <heellp> donofrio
[15:50] <donofrio> but I type nvsetvol 0 and then it goes quite
[15:50] <xico_colaco> boas
[15:50] <heellp> @donofrio how do i disable meta key binding
[15:50] <nacc> donofrio: right, so why would you need it on x86? or do you mean you need to run it on an x86 mac?
[15:50] <nacc> donofrio: you will probably have to compile it from source
[15:51] <somsip> heellp: dont random ask people for help. State your question than wait
[15:51] <donofrio> nacc because when you reboot it chimes
[15:51] <nacc> donofrio: it's part of the powerpc-utils package, which is almost certainly not built for x86 anywhere
[15:51] <heellp> ok sir @somsip
[15:51] <donofrio> how would I run/port?
[15:51] <MattJ100> denil: sorry, I don't have time to continue right now - I suggest you look at some links like https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ZTE_MF110/MF190
[15:51] <MattJ100> denil: it's not exactly the same model, but yours looks like it might be behaving the same way
[15:52] <judy> ducasse: I got the log files, but paste.ubuntu.com isn't coming up for me. I can get on any other site but that
[15:52] <MattJ100> e.g. run eject /dev/sr1 and see if it starts working
[15:52] <RealPanV> Guys. I would repeat my sentences once in 5 minutes since nobody really likes flooding.
[15:53] <RealPanV> Just saying. (not backseat moderating)
[15:53] <nacc> donofrio: get the source for powerpc-utils and try and compile it
[15:53] <nacc> donofrio: or maybe there is a more intel way, i'm not sure if the intel macs have nvram like the powerpc ones did
[15:54] <judy> ducasse: Also, there were 2 log files. One was from yesterday, and one was from today. I wll paste them both when I can get into the paste site
[15:54] <ducasse> judy: post them wherever you can, pastebin.com or paste.debian.net for example.
[15:54] <judy> ducasse: OK
[15:55] <donofrio> nacc, yah was hoping for an intel way don't want to make make build unless I gotta....
[15:55] <nacc> donofrio: you might be better off asking in the mac specific channel, as it wouldn't be specific to ubuntu -- don't konw myself, seems like most people do it from osx and then boot back into linux
[15:55] <heellp> hello
[15:55] <heellp> how do i disable meta key binding
[15:56] <donofrio> nacc, ok thank you for thinking about it at least
[15:57] <judy> ducasse: This was from the 10th http://paste.ubuntu.com/16364447/
[15:58] <heellp> i like your paste
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> !ot | heellp
[16:00] <heellp> @ubtottu
[16:01] <heellp> im talking about changing binding of meta in ubuntu
[16:01] <heellp> i know it uses xkb configs but i tried but i failed
[16:01] <OerHeks> heellp, no option for that in systemsettings > keyboard
[16:01] <OerHeks> heellp, if you don't gen answer here, post it on askubuntu.com
[16:02] <OerHeks> c/gen/get
[16:03] <brunch875> I just followed the official guide to make and install opencv3. I had to pass a lot of -D flags after figuring out where stuff like python libraries were. After installing it, it was unable to open some formats like mp4
[16:03] <brunch875> And after that I just run cmake without passing any flags
[16:03] <brunch875> it figures all out on itself
[16:03] <brunch875> and no issues at all after the installation :s
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> judy: can you tell us whats behind driver= on the command sudo lshw -C network (from your ethernet card)
[16:04] <judy> lotuspsychje: I will check that now
[16:04] <judy> lotuspsychje: PCI (sysfs)
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> judy: just behind driver=
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> judy: should be at bottom
[16:05] <judy> lotuspsychje: when I ran sudo lshw -c network, that's what came up
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> judy: oh wait a little :p
[16:06] <mitech> :)
[16:08] <judy> lotuspsychje: for some reason, none of the paste sites are loading for me
[16:08] <OerHeks> paste.ubuntu.com too
[16:08] <OerHeks> ?
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> judy: you can try to disable ipv6 in eth0 in settings please?
[16:09] <judy> lotuspsychje: OK, I'll do that now
[16:10] <judy> lotuspsychje: OK, done
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> judy: was it checked?
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> judy: try a reboot and re-test your network card please
[16:11] <judy> lotuspsychje: I only have a wireless connection in settings
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> judy: oh thats not good
[16:11] <judy> lotuspsychje: eth0 is not showing at all
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> judy: nothing showed on driver= ?
[16:13] <judy> lotuspsychje: Yes, but I can't get any of the paste sites to come up. Can I send you a private message?
[16:13] <ducasse> judy: remove the eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> judy: try paste.ubuntu.com
[16:14] <judy> lotuspsychje: I did
[16:14] <judy> ducasse: will do
[16:15] <ducasse> judy: that's why network manager didn't see that interface now, i just wanted to test it earlier.
[16:15] <mrasker> sound still not working. i'm going crazy. bye bye linux
[16:15] <denil> wifi dongle shows wifi when i close the lid but as soon as i open it it dont show wifi is there a  solution for this
[16:16] <k1l_> denil: reload the module used by that wifi chip.
[16:16] <denil> can u tell me how
[16:16] <denil> i m a noob
[16:16] <denil> kll_
[16:16] <k1l_> denil: its a common issue that on resume the hardware takes too long to be ready so the module is not loaded
[16:16] <denil> but even after so many hours its not loaded
[16:17] <OerHeks> denil, on encrypted ubuntu?
[16:18] <denil> u mean i have a pass for login?? @ 0erHeks
[16:18] <codepython777> how do i make my ubuntu box a wireless hotspot? I tried hotspotd, isnt working. The machine is a intel nuc.
[16:18] <k1l_> denil: "modprobe" is the command to do that
[16:18] <judy> lotuspsychje: I sent you a PM with the output
[16:19] <denil> denil@Denil-HP-Notebook:~$ modprobe modprobe: ERROR: missing parameters. See -h.
[16:19] <judy> ducasse: I deleted the eth0 line
[16:19] <denil> this is what i get
[16:19] <OerHeks> judy, you pasted from paste.ubuntu.com some time back, so you CAN use paste
[16:19] <k1l_> denil: you still need to name the module that wifi chip is using
[16:19] <denil> how can i know tht
[16:19] <k1l_> denil: "lsmod" lists all module in use
[16:20] <ducasse> judy: ok, can you see the wired interface in network manager now? you might need to restart it with 'sudo service networkmanager restart'
[16:20] <judy> OerHeks: I can't get into the site. After I pasted, it wouldn't let me back in
[16:21] <judy> ducasse: networkmanager: unrecognized service
[16:21] <Hulio> hi guys
[16:22] <ducasse> judy: sorry, network-manager
[16:24] <zain> hello! i'd like to install the gdal 2.1.0+dfsg-1~trusty1 package from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing onto my ubuntu 14.04 instance. i did add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-testing but gdal doesn't appear. what do i need to do?
[16:24] <squinty> zain,  you need to update your sources   sudo apt update    and then look for your file
[16:24] <ray_> hi,since this day I haven't sound on my ubuntu mate 16.04.Before it was good.on my w10 and linux mint it's ok.thank you for your answer
[16:25] <judy> ducasse: OK, only wireless came up
[16:25] <judy> ducasse: I mean after I ran the command, only the wireless connection came back up
[16:25] <zain> squinty: I did sudo apt update, but still nothing. also of note, i dont see anything about gis in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:26] <StanislasP> Hi everybody
[16:26] <zain> ah, nevermind, it appeared. (facepalm)
[16:27] <zain> thanks squinty!
[16:27] <OerHeks> zain, next time, ppa's have their own instance under  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:27] <mitech> hallo :))
[16:27] <squinty> zain, ppa's are listed in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:27] <codepython777> I'm trying to create a hotspot on a Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265 - this is what is giving me trouble. Any suggestions on how to create a wifi-hotspot on ubuntu using this hardware? Or do I need to buy a usb -wifi dongle - if yes, which one?
[16:27] <zain> cool, good to know
[16:28] <judy> ducasse: I must have disconnected. I'm not sure if you wrote anything after I wrote my last response
[16:28] <squinty> zain, yw
[16:28] <ducasse> judy: can you see the interface if you right-click the network icon?
[16:28] <StanislasP> Did anyone can help me? I try this morning to install Ubuntu 16.04 lts on my work desktop but i have the error "ubi partman failed with exit code 10" I searhc  but I found nothing that can help me. My desktop http://www.fnac.com/PC-Asus-G11CD-FR022T/a9291028/w-4
[16:28] <ducasse> judy: try 'edit connections'
[16:28] <freeone3000> I'm having some trouble with ACLs - it looks like default acls are not inherited to fiels in the directory. https://gist.github.com/freeone3000/d76811c6be66165f9dbde2afb6311d5b
[16:29] <judy> ducasse: I don't see it if I with my connections. If I go into the connection editor, all that's there is the wireless connection
[16:29] <OerHeks> StanislasP, according to this post, http://askubuntu.com/questions/248500/ubi-partman-failed-with-exit-code-10-during-12-10-fresh-install your bios sata-controller is set to raid ?
[16:29] <OerHeks> set it to ahci
[16:30] <ducasse> judy: does 'ifconfig eth0' show anything?
[16:30] <OerHeks> ( or disable raid)
[16:30] <squinty> !sound | ray
[16:30] <judy> ducasse: yes
[16:30] <ducasse> judy: did you delete *both* eth0 lines from /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:31] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16365311/
[16:31] <StanislasP> OerHeks: Nop I try the nodmraid but that don't change anything. When i try the  Try ubuntu before istall, I have only error on my screen.
[16:31] <ducasse> judy: /url 1
[16:31] <ducasse> judy: sorry
[16:31] <StanislasP> And i don't have raid (1 hdd of 1To
[16:31] <StanislasP> I juste hace the win10 installed by Asus
[16:32] <judy> ducasse: I only deleted the eth0
[16:32] <squinty> ray_, you can also look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/Alsamixer    to start alsamixer just type in a terminal   alsamixer
[16:33] <curlyears> weid, the BIOS startup starts, and gets to the point where it's going to look for DMI stuff, the it says "No such partition" and drops me into a grub (rescue) prompt
[16:34] <curlyears> s/weid/weird/
[16:34] <curlyears> anyobne have any idea what's going on?
[16:35] <nacc> curlyears: "it" being grub?
[16:35] <nacc> curlyears: in "it says"
[16:35] <ray_> Ok thank you ubottu and squinty, i try the test of sound prefernces right and left are good .in this case material is good. but i can't listen music or ubuntu sonor effect.
[16:35] <judy> ducasse: I'm sorry, what was the url 1?
[16:35] <ducasse> judy: there should be two lines with eth0 in them, you need to delete both. just ignore the url thingy, just a typo by me :)
[16:36] <judy> ducasse: there was only one line
[16:36] <curlyears> nacc: good question, it isn't clear who is issueing the message
[16:37] <nacc> curlyears: well if you're being dropped to a grub rescue prompt, then probably grub has loaded and the config file is incorrect
[16:37] <ducasse> judy: ok, so now there are two lines that say 'auto lo' and 'iface lo' and the rest are comments?
[16:37] <judy> ducasse: the other line that wasn't commented out was iface lo inet loopback
[16:37] <killall> Help. im on a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 and i have several segmentation faults, tried several cd's (isos downloaded).
[16:38] <OerHeks> killall, so install went fine, and seg faults appear on the installed ubuntu?
[16:38] <curlyears> well, damn.   The config file was working fine yesterday morning, then aLL OF  sudden to rear panel USB ports stopped working for my KB nd mouse, and I couldn't reboot
[16:39] <killall> OerHeks:  yes :( tried several cd's several pens created and 3 diferent disks
[16:39] <curlyears> I was sitting here IRCing when it happened. I had to restart the system, with the KB and mouse plugged into the front USB ports
[16:39] <OerHeks> killall, unlikely the errors come from the iso, run fschk to scan your disks ..
[16:39] <judy> ducasse: should I delete the iface lo inet loopback line also?
[16:39] <killall> OerHeks:  before this install it was ok untill tons of my /home files (on a raid 10) got 0 bytes.
[16:40] <Rhonda> Hmm.  How do I debug why corosync doesn't start at bootup?  I don't see anything in the boot messages.  It's 12.04 with upstart from what I can tell, and I have no experience with upstart, frankly spoken.  :/
[16:40] <killall> OerHeks:  i have done a disk check using disks
[16:40] <ducasse> judy: no, that needs to be there.
[16:40] <judy> ducasse: OK
[16:41] <killall> OerHeks:  things like segfault at 7f6ea1110694 ip 00007f6e99cd8b38 sp 00007ffcb95d0640 error 4 in libapt-pkg.so.5.0.0[7f6e99bf1000+168000]
[16:41] <ducasse> judy: try 'nmcli dev show eth0' - does that give you any output?
[16:41] <nacc> curlyears: that sounds like a hardware issue?
[16:41] <curlyears> nCC:  UNRELIABLE hdd OPERATION?
[16:41] <curlyears> oops
[16:42] <ray_> thank you .probleme is solve.in preference sound ,there is not the good tag.hdmi is tag and not intern audio.
[16:42] <OerHeks> killall, perform a scan > mdadm --examine --scan
[16:42] <nacc> curlyears: your USB ports getting disabled, seems like instability
[16:42] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16365620/
[16:42] <killall> OerHeks:  im not on raid at the moment but still got problems, the raid is for /home only
[16:43] <curlyears> nacc:  weird thing is, I plugged a USB thumb into one of the rear ports, it seems to work just fine, but the KB and mouse don't even light up
[16:43] <killall> OerHeks:  can it be ram problems?
[16:43] <nacc> curlyears: hrm, strange!
[16:43] <OerHeks> killall, yes, but check your / first
[16:44] <killall> OerHeks:  i have checked it using disks utility for extensive scan
[16:44] <ducasse> judy: i'm on a different version, the commands are obviously different. please post your /etc/network/interfaces, I suspect something might be screwed up there.
[16:44] <judy> ducasse: OK
[16:45] <killall> the live cd works fine :/
[16:45] <curlyears> judy, are sure thr "show" in thsat command line shouldn't be "--show?"
[16:45] <judy> ducas
[16:45] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16365701/
[16:46] <judy> curlyears: ok
[16:46] <ducasse> judy: good, that's correct. is the interface still not listed in network manager?
[16:46] <killall> OerHeks: going to reboot thanks for the help
[16:47] <judy> ducasse: no
[16:47] <judy> ducasse: should I try restarting the network, or restart maybe?
[16:47] <ducasse> judy: try a full reboot, that will make sure everything is restarted.
[16:48] <judy> ducasse: When I ran the command you gave me before, with the correction that curlyears gave me, I got a different output. Did you need to see that?
[16:49] <curlyears> *shine*
[16:49] <judy> I will restart, and let you know
[16:50] <curlyears> what about the missing partotion on my hdd?  I can't get to grub2 in any way I can find to check out my paritions
[16:50] <lyze> curlyears, live cd?
[16:51] <lyze> boot into one, check if they are correct and not faulty, reinstall grub from there curlyears
[16:51] <curlyears> lyze:  how does livw-dvd give me gruib?   I don't want to chooses the install" option
[16:52] <lyze> curlyears, try ubuntu and chroot into your system then reinstall it
[16:52] <OerHeks> curlyears, usb issues, now sata/disk issues .. maybe a faulty mobo? new hardware break within a few weeks, or after 5 years ..
[16:52] <curlyears> grub isn't missing, lyze, the partition is missing, and I can't boot successfully without it
[16:52] <judy> ducasse: still not there :9
[16:52] <lyze> curlyears, but it's only grub, isn't it? Then boot into a live cd and see from there what#s happening c:
[16:53] <curlyears> OerHeks: yeah, but this hardware has been running fine since last August
[16:53] <curlyears> OK, off to try to look at my partition table
[16:53] <ducasse> judy: post the output from 'sudo nmcli dev --show'
[16:54] <curlyears> OerHeks: which is neither a few weeks or 5 years
[16:54] <curlyears> damn it all to heck!
[16:55] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16365944/
[16:55] <ducasse> judy: try 'nmcli dev list'
[16:56] <curlyears> judy:  you have to replace "dev" with the names of an actual device, I thihnk
[16:56] <ducasse> curlyears: nmcli has changed a lot from 14.04 to 16.04, it seems :)
[16:57] <curlyears> wouldn't surprise me, ducasse
[16:57] <judy> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16366001/
[16:57] <judy> curlyears: as in eth0?
[16:57] <jair> hello all, I am trying to install a newer kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-nightly/ but there is no amd64 listed there
[16:58] <jair> does anyone knows why? there is no 4.6 kernel ready for amd64?
[16:58] <nacc> jair: build is failing: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-nightly/current/BUILD.LOG.amd64
[16:58] <jair> nacc: I see ^^ that make sense
[16:59] <ducasse> judy: nmcli can see it, right-click the network icon and choose 'edit connections'. there should be a 'wired' entry there.
[16:59] <kayes_> any idea if ubuntu 16.04 cd installer supports zfs? the RC didn't
[16:59] <jair> nacc: so for the time being just wait until there is a build
[16:59] <nacc> kayes_: what do you mean by "support"?
[16:59] <nacc> jair: right
[16:59] <jair> nacc: thank you sir
[16:59] <judy> ducasse: No connection there
[17:00] <judy> ducasse: I even tried to add a wired connection before. But that didn't work
[17:00] <nacc> jair: i'm guessing it's an upstream bug, but not sure
[17:00] <nacc> jair: as all the various mainline builds are failing on amd64
[17:00] <nacc> jair: i've asked in #ubuntu-devel
[17:00] <harkx> any recommendations on remote-desktop alike things for ubuntu 16.04 ? (not x2go or thinlinc, http://mutex.nz/blog/thinlinc-and-the-lsb/ )
[17:00] <ducasse> judy: well, the driver can see the card, but it can't get a link. we were discussing if this could be due to a firmware update, but we can't be sure...
[17:00] <kayes_> nacc there's a step where you ahve to select which partitions to use etc, is there an option to select zfs as root fs :D
[17:01] <jair> nacc: hmm and I should no try to install a version 4.6 for ubuntu 15.10 into 16.04
[17:01] <nacc> kayes_: no, zfs is not supported as root fs
[17:01] <jair> nacc: alright cool
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> judy: sure your system is fully up to date right? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[17:01] <nacc> kayes_: there are blog workarounds to do it, but not officially supported
[17:01] <nacc> jair: i would not recommend mixing versions like that
[17:01] <jair> nacc: cool
[17:01] <judy> lotuspsychje: Yes, I made sure I checked before coming in here
[17:02] <akik> nacc: can you link to a zfs on root blog?
[17:02] <jair> nacc: I will be patient and see if the amd64 gets out then
[17:02] <akik> root on zfs
[17:03] <ducasse> kayes_: there is a guide to root on zfs on github, if you google you will find it, but it's not straightforward.
[17:03] <nacc> akik: --^
[17:03] <nacc> akik: it's from the zfsonlinux folks, iirc
[17:03] <jair> nacc: thank you for the help
[17:04] <ducasse> kayes_: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-16.04-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[17:04] <kayes_> ducasse: thanks
[17:05] <judy> ducasse: lotuspsychje: Thank you both for helping me. I have to run. I think I'll just stick with the wireless dongle for now.
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> judy: ok good luck!
[17:05] <TerraBIT452> ich brauche hilfe
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> !de | TerraBIT452
[17:06] <TerraBIT452> danke!
[17:12] <altinu> Hi there, can anyone help me solve this issue with kernel remove http://pastebin.com/sLJQSQE5
[17:14] <michelle_68>  /join #linuxacademy
[17:15] <michelle_68> oops lol
[17:16] <OerHeks> altinu, on ubuntu, you can easily remove old kernels with apt-get autoremove
[17:17] <OerHeks> altinu, but you are on debian, no?
[17:18] <altinu> OerHeks:  no I just did an upgrade to 16.04 and it messed up my sysstem...
[17:18] <altinu> btw OerHeks yes I tried with autoremove
[17:18] <dschense> hi all. is there a way to recreate a deleted /var/log path ? i restored a proxmox CT and missed the /var/log directory. is there a way for all services to recreate their files an directorys ?
[17:19] <dschense> all other stuff is still there.. but all logs are missing and without logs most of the services are not runnung :(
[17:20] <Heebie> Hello, I'm trying to downgrade a set of packages (ubuntu-zfs)  by a version.  Management wants a specific version that is no longer available in the ppa repository.  I'm having an impossible time getting things to install in-order, or even to install at all. (modules won't compile etc..)  Does anyone know of a good guide for installing specific versions with their specific dependencies?
[17:20] <cabbage_hands> Hi, do you guys have any experience with Supervisord?
[17:20] <cabbage_hands> Is there a way to stop effectively everything started by Supervisord ?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> !find supervisor
[17:27] <cabbage_hands> anyone? :(
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> cabbage_hands  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:33] <ducasse> Heebie: is this from the zfs-native ppa?
[17:33] <benlk> Is anyone here good with scanning problems? I can detect the printer/scanner (an HP all-in-one) and print to it, but not scan: https://gist.github.com/benlk/4edc3cfb01896c1d7880e26605065183
[17:35] <Edward___> Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 stuck at "remove conflicting ..." OS files. HELP
[17:35] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | Edward___
[17:37] <Edward___> You know the Ubuntu site on 16.04 does NOT say that. Thanks.
[17:37] <Edward___> By....
[17:37] <ducasse> Edward___: the release notes do.
[17:38] <benlk> !scanning
[17:39] <ubuntien> hi
[17:39] <sayali2507> hello
[17:40] <arthar360> sayali2507, ubuntien What can we help you with?
[17:42] <lerner> I want to fit a pdf file (one page portrait style) into one page, landscape style, so it fits half the page... I hope that was understood
[17:42] <ubuntien> arthar360 nice to meet you
[17:43] <Heebie> ducasse: Yes, it's from that ppa.
[17:44] <Welastevil> hi folks... sorry, my connection felt
[17:44] <ducasse> Heebie: those are not really supported here, i suggest you tolk to the maintainers of it - those are the people most likely to be able to help you.
[17:44] <ducasse> Heebie: *talk
[17:45] <Welastevil> so...I'm havin problems (bug) with my UBUNTU+Alienware
[17:45] <dschense> nobody with idea to recreate all logfiles for all services?
[17:45] <Welastevil> battery draining and overheating by no reason
[17:45] <Welastevil> I realise that I need to debug it...
[17:46] <Welastevil> I googled about it many times, and no help was found
[17:46] <Welastevil> :(
[17:47] <nacc> dschense: what do you mean by recreate? you want to restore old contents? or you just mean you deleted the files and the corresponding service is failing to start because it can't find a logfile, or?
[17:47] <reisio> :)
[17:47] <reisio> ftfy
[17:47] <nacc> Welastevil: what version of ubuntu?
[17:48] <Heebie> ducasse: I know.. I'm talking to ubuntu-zfs people.. and they're not forthcoming on how to handle specific versioning, especially for things they've removed from their repos since they were installed. (I'm trying to match versions with a server installed in 2013.. it's what I've been instructed to do no matter how ludicrous it may sound.)
[17:48] <dschense> @nacc i restored a proxmox container with ubuntu running in it
[17:48] <Welastevil> tha last one
[17:48] <Welastevil> 16.04
[17:48] <dschense> --> /var/log was excluded but i already restored it
[17:49] <ducasse> Heebie: most people will probably tell you to install 16.04 where zfs is officially supported and move on :)
[17:50] <ducasse> Heebie: unless you have copies of the .deb files i think you may be out of luck. and even then you might need to avoid kernel updates.
[17:50] <nacc> dschense: ok ... sorry, need more details for what the problem actually is
[17:50] <Welastevil> ok
[17:50] <Welastevil> what you wanna know?
[17:50] <reisio> if you're installing right now, I'm not sure why you would entertain the idea of installing any version except 16.04...
[17:50] <Welastevil> the battery is draining fastly
[17:51] <dschense> its a proxmox CT with ubuntu with some servicec running. ajenti, nginx, fail2ban, courier, and some more
[17:51] <Welastevil>  and the pc overheats without any reason
[17:51] <Welastevil> it is all after installing ubuntu
[17:51] <Heebie> ducasse: I do have the .deb files.  The modules don't end up compiling etc.., and I can't figure out why.
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> Welastevil  install TLP, thermald and indicator-cpufreq
[17:51] <dschense> and i dont know all logfile names so i can not restore all by hand
[17:52] <reisio> Welastevil: is it a mac?
[17:52] <Welastevil> nope
[17:52] <Welastevil> it is an Alienware
[17:52] <ducasse> Heebie: same kernel also?
[17:52] <reisio> mmm
[17:52] <reisio> you got laptop-mode-tools installed?
[17:52] <Welastevil> no
[17:53] <Glorfindel> Could someone help me set up some swap space?
[17:53] <Welastevil> what does this laptop-mode-tools?
[17:53] <Heebie> ducasse: Yes, the same version of pretty much everything I can find that appears like it could be related.
[17:53] <reisio> Welastevil: among other things, it can improve battery usage
[17:54] <Heebie> kmod-mem is one of the things that gets complained about when building one of the dkms or spl modules, but I can't find anything relating to that at all.
[17:54] <Welastevil> k...I'll install it
[17:54] <Welastevil> one second
[17:54] <ducasse> Heebie: that *is* odd. in what way do they fail to compile - anything that stands out in the error messages from dkms?
[17:54] <nacc> dschense: sorry, i'm confused, you have a backup of /var/log and are restoring from that; why do you need to restore by hand?
[17:54] <Heebie> ducasse: Just the "missing" kmod-mem
[17:55] <GnomeKris> Any recommendations for a tweaks app for 14.04 using gdm
[17:55] <GnomeKris> ??
[17:55] <OerHeks> Glorfindel, pretty easy > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F
[17:56] <Welastevil> ok
[17:56] <Welastevil> installed
[17:56] <Welastevil> reisio, dont you think it is a bug problem?
[17:56] <Welastevil> or you think that I can correct the no reason overheating and battery drainage using this tools?
[17:57] <ducasse> Heebie: well, if the zfsonlinux people can't (or won't) help you, i'm not sure i can either. have you tried #ubuntu-server? someone there might have had similar issues in the past.
[17:57] <Glorfindel> OerHeks: thanks
[17:57] <OerHeks> Welastevil, which alienware? with an ATI gpu?
[17:57] <ducasse> Heebie: but ppa's aren't really supported there either :)
[17:57] <mrasker> I'll go back to 14.04. Everything works there
[17:57] <reisio> Welastevil: I think it's worth trying
[17:57] <Heebie> ducasse: I'll try there. Thanks. I didn't realise there was a separate "server" channel.
[17:58] <ducasse> Heebie: np, good luck.
[17:58] <mrasker> when will the support for 14.04 finish?
[17:58] <Welastevil> ok
[17:58] <Welastevil> downloaded! know....hw to run it?
[17:58] <akik> mrasker: did you try using pavucontrol to control your audio?
[17:58] <squinty> GnomeKris,  gnome-tweak-tool  in repo's.  ubuntu-tweak but the last time I checked, there was a version for 16.04 available yet
[17:59] <nacc> mrasker: 2019, iirc
[18:00] <squinty> mrasker,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:00] <GnomeKris> I'm on 14.04, not 16.06
[18:00] <mrasker> i tryed everything, indeed i'm talking with the people of alsa and it sounds like a bug in ubuntu
[18:00] <Heebie> 16.06?
[18:00] <reisio> Welastevil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[18:01] <Welastevil> yeah...but how to run the tools i just ask me to download?
[18:01] <akik> squinty: why does it say support for 14.04.3 ends in august 2016 ?
[18:01] <mrasker> hehe 2019 ill be enough. my laptop will be dead
[18:01] <nacc> akik: HWE stacks are only supported for limited times (iirc) but not sure
[18:01] <reisio> Welastevil: it says how on the page
[18:02] <reisio> Welastevil: mostly it is run merely by installation
[18:02] <GnomeKris> I jacked something up a few minutes ago when I started unity via terminal. I can no longer switch workspaces with shortcut keys, even after reboot.
[18:02] <reisio> Welastevil: although I would imagine a reboot (or general services restart) might be in order
[18:02] <OerHeks> akik point releases have limited support, you would have 14.04.4 by then
[18:02] <lerner> pdfmod doesnt work anymore: i try to get rid of the first page, it get rids of any other page
[18:02] <akik> so i'd need to stay in 14.04.1 to have support until 2019? doesn't make sense
[18:02] <lerner> what program can I use?
[18:02] <OerHeks> no, 14.04 totally gets support till '19
[18:03] <OerHeks> 14.04.1+2+3+4+5
[18:03] <akik> somebody needs to fix that page
[18:03] <Welastevil> ok! thanks a lot reisio))))
[18:03] <Welastevil> but about the overheating?
[18:03] <reisio> akik: your conclusion is a bit silly anyway
[18:03] <Welastevil> Im almost sure that it is a byg!
[18:03] <reisio> akik: you should really update far more frequently than once every 5 years
[18:03] <nacc> akik: this graph might help you a bit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2FSupport.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[18:04] <Welastevil> because it heats by no cause
[18:04] <reisio> Welastevil: technically anything less than perfection is a bug
[18:04] <nacc> akik: the HWE stacks are supported in line with the current LTS supports in a way
[18:04] <OerHeks> Welastevil, which alienware? with an ATI gpu?
[18:04] <akik> nacc: thanks
[18:04] <reisio> nacc: that link work?
[18:04] <nacc> akik: the above graph is kernel-only, but i think it sort of applies to others
[18:05] <squinty> GnomeKris,  you should be able find ubuntu tweak for 14.04.
[18:06] <Welastevil> m15
[18:06] <GnomeKris> I'm hunting now. I'm sure I'll find it. Thanks
[18:06] <nacc> reisio: yeah, i guess it's just at the bottom of the main LTSEnablementStack page
[18:06] <reisio> nacc: ... this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[18:06] <nacc> reisio: yeah, down that page
[18:06] <OerHeks> Welastevil, ati HD5850 ..
[18:06] <OerHeks> Welastevil, i would go back to 14.04, and wait for the new ati drivers to be released, now you only have the opendrivers
[18:06] <reisio> nacc: that page loads for you?
[18:06] <nacc> reisio: yeah
[18:07] <Welastevil> i see
[18:07] <reisio> hrmmm, fixed with a hard refresh
[18:07] <reisio> oh reliability...
[18:07] <Welastevil> but the bug was with other versions as well
[18:07] <OerHeks> i hope with 16.04.1 they will be available
[18:08] <OerHeks> Welastevil, you will find this bug ( lack of ati drivers ) with ALL linux distros
[18:08] <squinty> fwiw, ubuntu tweak git site states:  This project is no longer under maintenance, and finally shut down completely Blog and the main station ubuntu-tweak.com , now inaccessible
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> squinty  i have ubuntu-tweak for 16.04, works normally
[18:09] <Welastevil> hum I see
[18:09] <Welastevil> and how to get these drivers?
[18:10] <squinty> MonkeyDust, ppa?
[18:11] <OerHeks> Welastevil, they will be presented by the driver tool, you can check it out, type driver in dash, and the tool shows up: you will be presented firmware for amd/intel/ wifi drivers and in the future ati drivers too
[18:11] <OerHeks> and Nvidia for others
[18:11] <Welastevil> yes I see
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> squinty  a .deb, with the very charming and inviting name "ubuntu-tweak_0.8.7-1~getdeb2~xenial_all"
[18:11] <Welastevil> about wifi and stuf Im not worried
[18:12] <OerHeks> Welastevil, but now resio showed you laptopmode tools, reboot to see if it makes a difference.
[18:12] <squinty> MonkeyDust, heh  very charming indeed!  thanks will take a look for it.  Guess it will be the last one.....
[18:12] <Welastevil> ok
[18:13] <Welastevil> I just installed tools
[18:13] <Welastevil> no need to run it?
[18:13] <Welastevil> just reboot?
[18:13] <reisio> try a reboot
[18:13] <dgadd523> anyone else have the problem chromium won't sync?
[18:13] <Welastevil> ok
[18:13] <OerHeks> nope, laptopmode toos are a plugin in systemsettings, powermanagment i think
[18:13] <Welastevil> just reboot or do something else before?
[18:13] <OerHeks> c/toos/tools
[18:16] <akik> on page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack it says "The 14.04.2 and newer point release will ship with an updated kernel and X stack by default." is that the same as hwe stack?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> squinty  i'll share it in dropbox, momebnt
[18:18] <reisio> hwe?
[18:18] <akik> hardware enablement
[18:18] <squinty> MonkeyDust,  already downloaded and installed.  thanks anyway...much appreciated
[18:18] <Seveas> akik: yes.
[18:18] <Seveas> the updated kernel and X stack are to support newer hardware
[18:18] <GnomeKris> My workspace switcher shortcut keys stopped working...wtf
[18:20] <uppperlio> hello
[18:21] <reisio> 'lo
[18:21] <Guest97230> holla yo soy brasileno
[18:21] <Welastevil> no changes after reboot :(
[18:21] <Welastevil> eu tambem
[18:21] <Welastevil> hahahah
[18:21] <uppperlio> i have ubuntu 14 will i need to reinstall it after 5 years after it's expiry, So how do i manage a server
[18:21] <Guest97230> kk
[18:21] <Guest97230> como eu entro em um canal
[18:21] <Welastevil> voce ja esta em um canal
[18:21] <uppperlio> can i update 14 to ubuntu 16??
[18:21] <Guest97230> kk sei
[18:22] <uppperlio> hey talk english
[18:22] <Welastevil> faz assim: /join #nome do canal
[18:22] <squinty> !br
[18:22] <Welastevil> sorry
[18:22] <Welastevil> that guy is also from Brasil
[18:22] <Welastevil> so...I rebooted it...no changes...
[18:22] <uppperlio> can i update 14 to ubuntu 16??
[18:22] <Welastevil> what is the other way to use the tools?
[18:23] <uppperlio> i have a server, so do i need to reinstall ubuntu every 6 months?? or 5 years?? for my server
[18:23] <Guest97230> join#ubuntu-br
[18:24] <uppperlio> this is the official channel,so you go to brasil channel
[18:25] <sindre> I bought a TP-Link AC450 usb network card. It has usb id 2357:0105. Does anyone know about a working driver for it?
[18:25] <OerHeks> uppperlio, update daily, and reinstall is not nessasary, if you keep the LTS release.
[18:25] <squinty> !lts | uppperlio
[18:25] <craptalk> i have 2Gb of RAM and Core 2 Duo chip processor, which one of linux distro that can be very light so that mine can run smoothly?
[18:25] <uppperlio> so after 5 years? what are my options?
[18:26] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | upperlio
 hey guys , i've started to bring together a couple of small insights on linux https://github.com/tuwid/awesome-alexandria.git
 feel free to contribute if you like it
[18:27] <craptalk> i am desperate of knowing it, cause i was running mate and it was so much slow
[18:27] <OerHeks> MadHatter42, please don't spam, even for your opensource project, thanks.
[18:27] <HetroErectus> craptalk: try lubuntu
[18:27] <squinty> craptalk, lubuntu
[18:27] <HetroErectus> craptalk: if that wont work, slitaz
[18:28] <craptalk> HetroErectus: is good?
[18:28] <MadHatter42> OerHeks, sorry
[18:28] <unbalancedparen> when i start cassandra it does not start. i want to debug it. i do service cassandra status and it appears as active (exited). where can i see the logs of the service
[18:28] <MadHatter42> OerHeks, its not that i'm gaining money or anything from it, i just hope it comes in handy to someone
[18:28] <LtL> win 1
[18:28] <squinty> unbalancedparen,  most logs are in /var/log
[18:28] <OerHeks> MadHatter42, try #ubuntu-offtopic or -discuss ..
[18:28] <MadHatter42> thnx
[18:28] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:29] <HetroErectus> dont know, but i found it odd a computer like that ran mate so slow
[18:29] <HetroErectus> however, lubuntu is even lighter so yeah, try that
[18:29] <HetroErectus> slitaz is even lighter than lubuntu
[18:29] <uppperlio> ubottu can i run my server more than 5 years?? after that will it ask for update or do i need a reinstall??
[18:29] <unbalancedparen> squinty: so, logs of services are stored in var log like if i started the app via the shell?
[18:29] <ygorl> MadHatter42: i like your explanation of vmstat
[18:29] <HetroErectus> but slitaz is extremely basic ... lubuntu has what you need
[18:29] <uppperlio> squinty: can i run my server more than 5 years?? after that will it ask for update or do i need a reinstall??
[18:29] <unbalancedparen> squinty: i thought that in ubuntu logs of services were stored somewhere else
[18:29] <ygorl> in 5 years your server will be dead
[18:30] <OerHeks> uppperlio, i would reinstall after 5 years, but you don't need to. distro upgrade will do.
[18:30] <Welastevil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues
[18:30] <Welastevil> take a look in it!
[18:30] <MadHatter42> ygorl, thanks
[18:30] <squinty> uppperlio,  lts to lts will be offered as upgrade
[18:30] <ygorl> MadHatter42: im kidding. its empty?
[18:30] <HetroErectus> craptalk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a_Zy43CZBk <- lubuntu
[18:30] <MadHatter42> ygorl, sorry
[18:31] <uppperlio> squinty apt-get dist-upgrade? will that work? or do i need some other way??
[18:31] <HetroErectus> craptalk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT9nu0BVLNQ <- slitaz
[18:31] <HetroErectus> oh...
[18:31] <HetroErectus> 1 more ... crunchbang plusplus
[18:31] <squinty> !upgrade | uppperlio
[18:31] <MadHatter42> if there are empty files or you think something should be adjusted feel free to adjust if you like
[18:32] <HetroErectus> craptalk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vJRWdoHfP8 <- crunchbang plusplus ... also extremely light and a condenter to lubuntu
[18:32] <ygorl> MadHatter42: oh i dont care, i just figured you forgot to fill it in.  carry on!
[18:33] <squinty> HetroErectus,  this is the ubuntu support channel....not the recommend every other os channel.  #ubuntu-offtopic would be more appropriate
[18:33] <HetroErectus> ok
[18:34] <sindre> I could use some help installing mt7610 with new usb id
[18:34] <sindre> any takers?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> sindre  what's mt7610
[18:39] <OerHeks> installing mt7610 with new usb id ???
[18:39] <OerHeks> what is the original usb id? searched for driver/solutions?
[18:40] <sindre> MonkeyDust, chipset for wlan
[18:40] <sindre> OerHeks, I have a device that has a usb id is not in the drivers
[18:40] <uppperlio> End-of-life releases are versions of Ubuntu From 13.04 to 13.10. so will ubuntu 14 go dead in 2019??
[18:40] <squinty> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/MediaTek_MT7610U
[18:40] <sindre> so I need to add that usb id to the existing drivers
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !eol | uppperlio
[18:41] <OerHeks> mt7610 could be rt2800 or 2810 or whatever .. no clue
[18:41] <OerHeks> sindre, does the driver tool give any?
[18:41] <GnomeKris> Ever since I ran "unity" in terminal, and had to reboot to stop it, my workspace switcher shortcuts don't work. That's the only thing still broken, and it almost makes it unusable.
[18:41] <OerHeks> ( type driver in dash, tool should show up )
[18:41] <bekks> sindre: is your particular device supported by your desired driver?
[18:42] <sindre> squinty, mine: ID 2357:0105
[18:42] <GnomeKris> I forgot the command needed to switch display managers
[18:43] <OerHeks> sindre, rasp pi 1?
[18:43] <nacc> reisio: i see maybe what you saw, i'm now getting 500s from the wiki
[18:43] <reisio> GnomeKris: dpkg-reconfigure foodm
[18:43] <sindre> OerHeks, ubuntu mate
[18:43] <reisio> nacc: mine went away after a few minutes and a hard refresh
[18:43] <GnomeKris> thanks reisio
[18:43] <bekks> sindre: Ubuntu Mate on a RPI?
[18:43] <reisio> nacc: some server side caching issue, perhaps
[18:44] <nacc> uppperlio: you've asked the same question several times; 14.04 is supported until 2019 as documented on the wiki. You will need to upgrade to the next LTS at some point in that window, and that 16.04 upgrade (for 14.04 users) won't be offered until 16.04.1 (sometime in July 2016).
[18:45] <sindre> bekks, according to some forums it is
[18:45] <sindre> and according to tp-link
[18:45] <chandwer> I created this thread and the end result is that I think I found a bug where Ubuntu doesn't use the correct DPI for displays, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322645
[18:45] <bekks> sindre: Do you have an RPI? Are you trying to run Ubuntu Mate on it?
[18:45] <chandwer> does anyone know the correct place to report a bug like that?
[18:45] <sindre> bekks, no I don
[18:45] <sindre> have a laptop
[18:45] <squinty> !bugs
[18:46] <sindre> I am not trying to do something with a rpi. I have a lenovo z50-70 and need to use 5ghz
[18:46] <bekks> sindre: Whats the output of lsusb?
[18:47] <chandwer> squinty thanks, not sure what package this bug would belong to but I'll start there
[18:47] <sindre> bekks, Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2357:0105
[18:48] <bekks> sindre: So how do you know it is a MT7610?
[18:48] <nacc> chandwer: you might try: http://blog.jamiek.it/2015/04/manually-fixing-multiple-screens-with.html (i'm about to as well, as i have the same issue :)
[18:49] <GnomeKris> WHY CAN'T I GET MY SHORTCUT KEYS WORKING?!?!?!?!?!
[18:49] <nacc> chandwer: fwiw, i don't think this is a "solved" problem in any upstream project
[18:49] <GnomeKris> okay, I'm okay now. Just had to get that out. sorry
[18:49] <sindre> bekks, http://www.tp-link.com/en/download/Archer-T1U.html#Driver
[18:49] <chandwer> nacc: thanks, I'll check that out. Still a bug though.
[18:49] <tumbler> hot to add battery level applet in Cinnamon???
[18:50] <chandwer> nacc: what do you mean by that?
[18:50] <OerHeks> http://www.mediatek.com/en/downloads1/downloads/mt7601u-usb/
[18:50] <sindre> mt7645u
[18:50] <OerHeks> mt = mediatec
[18:50] <sindre> according to official driver
[18:50] <dschense> sorry, i still have the problem with missing log files in /var/log many services are not starting :( this is a list of installed services an with logfiles i have: http://pastebin.com/egsF65ra  hope anybody can help me to recreate the needet files and directorys
[18:51] <OerHeks> dschense, did you remove them manually?
[18:52] <backbox> ?
[18:52] <bekks> sindre: I dont see any reference on MT7610 there.
[18:52] <dschense> this i a proxmox container restore.. but the /var/log directory was excluded.. but it is already restored :(
[18:54] <OerHeks> dschense, no tool to restore logfiles, i think you need to reinstall that container.
[18:54] <bekks> dschense: The restore differs from the services configured in that container.
[18:54] <OerHeks> i know this answer is not what you want to read ..
[18:54] <bekks> dschense: And as I've already told in #ubuntu-de, you need to check every service and create every path/file the service is missing, manually.
[18:54] <dschense> the configs and everything else is still there.. but the files and directorys in /var/log are missing.
[18:55] <bekks> dschense: whatever was restored in /var/log differes from your configs.
[18:55] <dschense> i wanted to recreate all the path and files. but i dont know all the names for the logfiles the servives need
[18:56] <OerHeks> painfull lesson, to check how to backup.
[18:56] <bekks> dschense: You need to check every single service, and read/evaluate its error messages.
[18:56] <CacheMoney> so I have a bunch of differently named files, but the all have [!] at the end and then its extension
[18:56] <CacheMoney> how would I remove the [!] from all of those files
[18:57] <dschense> bekks but how to check the error without logs?
[18:57] <dschense> OerHeks, thats right. saw the exclude afte already restored
[18:57] <bekks> dschense: By starting each service, verbosely.
[18:58] <heap_> hi is there any ftp server with ubuntu server isos?
[18:58] <OerHeks> CacheMoney, maybe this example is any help http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/154771/rename-hundreds-of-file-by-removing-last-few-characters where -7 is -1 for you
[18:58] <OerHeks> !iso
[18:58] <bekks> heap_: A lot of mirrors are listed on the official ubuntu homepage
[18:58] <bekks> !mirrors
[18:59] <dschense> bekks, how to do this with service command ?
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> CacheMoney  that's called 'bulk rename' o 'mass rename' http://askubuntu.com/questions/10607/what-mass-file-renaming-tools-are-available
[18:59] <OerHeks> heap lots of them .. what country?
[18:59] <bekks> dschense: Evaluate each service file, start the service manually, check its man page on how to run it interactively, check the message it will throw at you.
[19:00] <heap_> i cant see any of ftp for czech republic
[19:00] <heap_> ok i found it
[19:01] <heap_> ftp://mirror.vutbr.cz/ubuntu/archive/
[19:01] <heap_> but i have no idea where is the ubuntu-16.04-server-amd64.iso
[19:01] <xangua> ! Server
[19:02] <bekks> heap_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[19:02] <xangua> Mmm :-/
[19:02] <Pici> heap_: http://mirror.vutbr.cz/ubuntu/releases/16.04/
[19:02] <tumbler> what command to view my DE version???
[19:02] <OerHeks> ftp://mirror.vutbr.cz/ubuntu/releases/xenial/
[19:03] <heap_> thanks
[19:03] <tumbler> none???
[19:04] <OerHeks> have fun!
[19:04] <jeffreylevesque> i can't run deban bc it says "DBAN finished with non-fatal errors. This is usually caused by disks with bad sectors".  Do you think it's because the disk is getting older, and it naturally accumulates bad sectors, or do you think i can download a utility, and hope it is software bad sectors that can be remediated?
[19:04] <GnomeKris> Would this command be a safe and effective way to reset gdm to default settings?
[19:04] <GnomeKris> sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> tumbler  env | grep -i desktop_session
[19:04] <OerHeks> jeffreylevesque, sad to hear, but we only support ubuntu, join #debian please
[19:05] <ubuntu660> hello
[19:05] <OerHeks> bad sectors grow, so replace the disk
[19:05] <Guest97230> alguem e br aqui
[19:05] <Guest43252> Hi everyone>  I have a question about 12.04.5
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> !br
[19:06] <ubuntu660> hi
[19:06] <ubuntu660> i has a question
[19:07] <OerHeks> ubuntu660, ask, wait and see
[19:07] <Guest43252> why I am getting this error when doing apt-get update?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16368477/
[19:08] <OerHeks> Guest43252, that mirror is out of sync, change it to main or other
[19:11] <Vogonite> wow, so many people. :)
[19:12] <ubuntu660> hello
[19:12] <ubuntu660> i has a question
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu660  let's hear it, in one line
[19:13] <GnomeKris> \
[19:14] <Vogonite> I also have a question - if I may.
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> Vogonite  you too, ask your question in one line
[19:16] <Vogonite> I ran Boot Repair from a Linux Live USB to fix the boot of another live USB - and it wrote the GRUB on my sda (Windows MCAfee Whole Disk Encrypted drive.) - Any chance at all of recovery?
[19:16] <Vogonite> maybe this is the wrong forum... ;)
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> Vogonite  are you in ubuntu now?
[19:16] <Vogonite> yep.
[19:18] <Vogonite> I tried googling the solution but no luck...
[19:19] <giorgio> hello
[19:19] <ducasse> Vogonite: if the mcafee thingy stored anything crucial in those sectors, you are probably out of luck unless you have a backup.
[19:19] <bekks> Vogonite: Without a backup of the Windows MBR - noc chance, thanks to the disk encryption.
[19:19] <Budd> How can I get dnsmasq to cough up its upstream DNS servers? It seems nearly impossible to troubleshoot.
[19:20] <Vogonite> yeah thats what I thought. The backup sits with my company IT dept. They are going to shit bricks when they hear that I fiddled with their laptop but trying to run a live distro :(
[19:21] <Vogonite> I guess I will have to stuff the telephone directory down my trousers and face the music :(
[19:21] <giorgio> lol i'm sure if you explain to them what happened they will understand
[19:21] <Vogonite> I think its bad that Boot Repair's recommended option is to write directly to sda without giving one the option of selecting the drive.
[19:22] <de-facto> Vogonite maybe if they have a disk image they coudl send you the first few megabytes and you coudl write those over grub?
[19:22] <bekks> Vogonite: I strongly doubt they have backup of YOUR mbr.
[19:22] <akik> Vogonite: it might be possible to restore the mbr https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB61022
[19:22] <akik> Vogonite: not sure if you have the same software
[19:22] <Vogonite> Thanks akik. I think there is a way to do it, but you need the Authorisation code and a disk which allows it to run.
[19:23] <Vogonite> either way, I dont think I will be able to fix it without involving corporate IT :O
[19:23] <bekks> Vogonite: Correct. You need their help.
[19:24] <Vogonite> which is what I was hoping to avoid. I am currently using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a 32GB SD card - and it works wonderfully. Unfortunately previous attempts messed with the sda HDD (which I had hoped to leave untouched in this whole process.)
[19:24] <wpgriggs> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu onto a surface pro 3, the touch cover trackpad is working but the keyboard isnt
[19:24] <wpgriggs> any ideas?
[19:24] <Vogonite> Thanks for the help guys!
[19:24] <Vogonite> Have a super evening/morning wheerever you are.
[19:27] <vlt> Hello. I get "The program 'firefox' received an X Window System error." several times a day which drives me totally crazy. Any idea what happens here and how to prevent it? https://bpaste.net/show/20fdf9ef21c2
[19:29] <bekks> vlt: can you pastebin "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade" please?
[19:49] <OerHeks>
[19:52] <sstory> I just put 16.04 on a Dell Optiplex 745. It boots to initramfs busybox.  What does that mean? Bad install?
[19:52] <isomorphismes> Google Hangouts On Air is not detecting my microphone
[19:53] <Welastevil> thanks guys!
[19:53] <isomorphismes> and in the instructions here https://www.onlinemictest.com/microphone-settings/ubuntu it's showing an icon I don't have
[19:53] <ducasse> sstory: can you post the error messages?
[19:53] <isomorphismes> in the top right
[19:53] <sstory> ducasse: sorry.. Where would I find that?  /var/log/? or what?
[19:53] <Welastevil> this is the best channel ever! everytime I got here, I got help or at lest some good chat))))
[19:54] <ducasse> sstory: there should be errors before it drops you into busybox.
[19:54] <sstory> Would those show up if the ubuntu logo is showing--hiding the boot sequence messages?
[19:54] <Welastevil> I don't undestand why at macos channels people can not be cool as here
[19:54] <isomorphismes> how do I get that Sound menu from command line?
[19:55] <ducasse> sstory: no, remove 'splash quiet' from the grub line
[19:55] <GnomeKris> http://imgur.com/QBltnIC I want /dev/sda3 to be expanded to occupy /dev/sda1 in this gparted screenshot, but for some reason, the option is not available.
[19:56] <sstory> ducasse: excuse my ignorance, but does it come with grub preinstalled or do I need to install that? Or can I access grub.conf from this initramfs?
[19:56] <GnomeKris> Any ideas?
[19:57] <ducasse> sstory: no ignorance involved :) hold down left shift when it boots, it will give you the grub menu. press 'e', manouver down to the line that begins with 'linux'
[19:57] <sstory> ducasse: Thanks!
[19:57] <ducasse> sstory: then delete 'quiet splash' and press F10
[19:58] <sstory> ducasse: I'll look
[19:59] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, delete sda1 first, then you would see unallocated space.
[20:00] <OerHeks> select sda1, delete, then the green mark to start removal
[20:00] <GnomeKris> deleted.
[20:00] <GnomeKris> Still no option when resizing sda3
[20:00] <squinty> it's mounted
[20:00] <isomorphismes> found the Sound menu
[20:01] <isomorphismes> but now when I hit the "on" button on the microphone it will randomly / automatically shut off again
[20:01] <OerHeks> squinty +1 .. partition sda3 is still mounted.
[20:01] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, are you on a live iso?
[20:01] <GnomeKris> No, booted, but it's a secondary hdd for my steam games.
[20:01] <OerHeks> click partition, right mouse, unmount
[20:02] <vook> GnomeKris: I think you'd be better off rsyncing the contents of sda3 to sda1, then deleting sda3 and expanding sda1
[20:02] <GnomeKris> vook, Why?
[20:02] <GnomeKris> just for block numerical order?
[20:02] <isomorphismes> http://imgur.com/a/9mnrl
[20:02] <vook> are you expecting to just have sda3 then sda7?
[20:03] <vook> er, sda2 and sda5
[20:03] <GnomeKris> it currently has sda2 sda3 and sda5 (as swap space in sda2)
[20:03] <vook> yeah, I don't think you can just have sda2,sda3, and sda5 but no sda1.
[20:04] <GnomeKris> so keeping the numerical order is required then? maybe.
[20:04] <vook> yeah, it's required
[20:04] <isomorphismes> something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/279407/how-to-disable-microphone-from-auto-adjusting-its-input-volume
[20:04] <OerHeks> no, not required
[20:04] <isomorphismes> but for hangouts on air, not skype
[20:04] <vook> not required per se, but messy
[20:04] <GnomeKris> so I'll rebuild sda1, then rsync.
[20:05] <sstory> ducasse:gave up waiting for root device;  missing modules cat /proc/modules; alert UUID.....does not exist. Sounds like I flubbed on the custom partition layout, right?
[20:06] <vook> because you'd basically have a break, <sda3 begins> | <sda2 extended> | sda3 ends
[20:06] <sstory> ducasse: Sorry...I have to run right now. Thanks for the tips.
[20:06] <ducasse> sstory: could be. just try  to install again, come back if you still have problems, but try to get a picture of the screen with the errors.
[20:06] <sstory> ducasse: I will. Thanks!
[20:07] <linuxuser> Sup
[20:09] <toffi9> test
[20:17] <benlk> Should I stick around here in hopes that someone answers my question about xsane, or is there a better venue for asking about scanners?
[20:18] <OerHeks> never seen your Q, benlk you may repeat this every 15 min or so
[20:18] <ducasse> benlk: have you looked up your model on the sane website?
[20:20] <benlk> ducasse: It's listed there: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/photosmart/photosmart_d110_series.html#note14
[20:20] <benlk> I'm getting a permissions error that can't be solved with sudo: https://gist.github.com/benlk/4edc3cfb01896c1d7880e26605065183
[20:21] <OerHeks> benlk, how is it connected, usb or network?
[20:21] <benlk> OerHeks: USB
[20:22] <OerHeks> does simple-scan ( standard in ubuntu) not find it?
[20:24]  * benlk checks
[20:24] <Eldon1> Anyone familiar with setting up webcams? I have one that just not seem to want to keep the brightness setting
[20:25] <benlk> OerHeks: simple-scan, once the scanner is woekn from sleep, enters a spinning-wheel state, followed by a red "Failed to scan: Unable to connect to scanner" box
[20:25] <benlk> Pressing "Change Scanner" lists the correct scanner.
[20:26] <giarc> i am out of space on /boot, us apt-get autoremove --purge the recommended method for clearing out old kernels?
[20:26] <giarc> is*
[20:26] <nacc> giarc: yes
[20:26] <giarc> nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/16369214/
[20:26] <nacc> giarc: although i don't thin you need 'purge'
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> giarc  and try bleachbit
[20:27] <nacc> giarc: you'll need to fix your install first
[20:27] <nacc> giarc: by either finishign the install, or remove the broken packages
[20:27] <OerHeks> benlk, tried to unplug/plug the cable?
[20:28] <giarc> hm, nacc so just run the apt-get -f install ?
[20:28] <OerHeks> i find simular issues, most of them with networking
[20:28] <nacc> giarc: i would try that first, yes, but if that fails due to the lack of space on /boot, then you might need to remove the packages in question, autoremove, then reinstall it
[20:29] <benlk> OerHeks: And rebooted the machine, added my user to scanner/lp, logged out/in, etc
[20:31] <OerHeks> benlk, sorry, no clue then :-(
[20:32] <giarc> nacc i seem stuck...no space i can't remove linux-image-generic-lts-utopic
[20:33] <Eldon1> no one in the know with webcams here?
[20:33] <Codfection> any alternative to internet download manager for ubuntu?
[20:33] <Codfection> or they have idm?
[20:33] <OerHeks> giarc, sudo apt-get autoremove # this should work
[20:34] <bekks> Codfection: they have wget, curl and browsers - no need for something else :)
[20:34] <ducasse> giarc: dpkg -r linux-image-generic-lts-utopic
[20:34] <Codfection> bekks, how to download using browser?
[20:34] <giarc> OerHeks that fails with unmet dependencies: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16369283/
[20:35] <Codfection> idm prevents interruption and can resume downloads. any alternate to that?
[20:35] <Codfection> DOWNLOADING from browser.
[20:35] <Eldon1> aria2c is a nice cli one that can do segmentation
[20:35] <OerHeks> giarc, the error gives a hint > Try using -f
[20:36] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get autoremove -f
[20:36] <OerHeks> -f force
[20:37] <bekks> Codfection: By clicking on a download link and wait until the download is finished.
[20:37] <giarc> OerHeks http://paste.ubuntu.com/16369302/
[20:38] <Codfection> bekks, lol I know that.. I am just asking if any alternate to idm
[20:38] <OerHeks> giarc, what did you do before this? removed kernel parts manually?
[20:38] <Codfection> coz idm is like torrenting
[20:39] <giarc> OerHeks nothing like that... tried to ap-get install python-dev
[20:39] <giarc> notice an issue...
[20:39] <giarc> could have been like this prior to that i guess
[20:39] <bekks> Codfection: IDM has nothing to do with torrenting. If you want to download Torrents, use a Torrent client :)
[20:39] <dlam> hmm nginx is logging stuff at  /var/log/nginx/davidapp_access.log.1  ...and  my /etc/logrotate.d/nginx only looks for *.log     anyone know how to make it log at the regular davidapp_access.log file?  dunno why its always going to the duplicate .1 one =\
[20:40] <ducasse> giarc: remove the packages with dpkg -r - that won't try to install anything
[20:41] <benlk> OerHeks: The only thing that looks interesting in /var/log/syslog is kernel: [21545.151869] usb 2-1.4: usbfs: interface 1 claimed by usblp while 'scanimage' sets config #1
[20:42] <giarc> ducasse which packages? i'm not clear on what packages are even causing an issue
[20:42] <ducasse> giarc: linux-image-generic-lts-utopic for a start
[20:43] <ducasse> giarc: linux-image-extra-3.16.0-55-generic also
[20:44] <bekks> ducasse: Erm, why? Why not removing the older kernels first?
[20:44] <giarc> the machine is running 3.16.0-52-generic
[20:44] <bekks> giarc: So you could remove all but -52 and 51
[20:44] <OerHeks> Codfection, we have a nice wiki >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DownloadManager
[20:45] <benlk> !!!
[20:45] <benlk> It might actually be working
[20:45] <OerHeks> Codfection, you should have find that easily
[20:45] <OerHeks> oh great benlk
[20:45] <benlk> Now that I'm watching the syslog
[20:45] <Codfection> didnt know about that.. OerHeks
[20:45] <Codfection> thanks
[20:45] <benlk> It works!
[20:46] <giarc> are these the package names for the kernels: linux-image-extra-3.16.0-53-generic ?
[20:46] <ducasse> bekks: those were the packages apt said were preventing him from running autoremmove. then clean up and update.
[20:46] <Codfection> what is curl guys
[20:46] <giarc> or linux-image-3.16.0-46-generic ?
[20:46] <bekks> Codfection: a command line tools for downloading, et al
[20:46] <noob> hi.  have 14.04 headless.  would like openjdk8.  getting 'Unable to locate package openjdk-8-jdk' wat do?
[20:46] <ducasse> giarc: both are.
[20:47] <bekks> noob: You need to use a PPA proving that package.
[20:47] <Codfection> is it like wget?
[20:47] <bekks> Codfection: In terms of downloading, yes.
[20:47] <OerHeks> noob, no openjdk 8 for 14.04 AFAIK
[20:47] <noob> bekks: how find?
[20:47] <noob> apparently it out 04/23?
[20:48] <bekks> OerHeks: noob: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[20:48] <Codfection> bekks, honeslty, do you think OS X is superior to Ubuntu?
[20:49] <bekks> Codfection: It doesnt matter what I think about that since your question is offtopic in here.
[20:49] <Codfection> I just want your opinion
[20:49] <OerHeks> bekks, is  oracle-java8-installer	8u92+8u91arm-2~really8u91~webupd8~0 not ARM only?
[20:49] <Codfection> if possible.
[20:49] <OerHeks> Codfection, no flamewars here!
[20:50] <ducasse> giarc: you probably want to remove the corresponding linux-headers packages also.
[20:50] <giarc> ducasse ok..how would i find those package names?
[20:50] <noob> should i just do a distro upgrade?
[20:50] <giarc> just named <package>-headers?
[20:51] <ducasse> giarc: use tab expansion. linux-headers-TABTAB
[20:51] <bekks> OerHeks: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
[20:51] <bekks> noob: You can just read the link given to OerHeks :)
[20:52] <OerHeks> i see the ARM version only .. https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java?field.series_filter=trusty
[20:53] <bekks> OerHeks: Just follow the link given :)
[20:53] <noob> bekks: that is oracal java.  wanted openjdk?
[20:53] <bekks> noob: OpenJDK? Never dealt with it, in favour of Oracle JDK. Sorry :)
[20:54] <noob> bekks: not like closed source on server
[20:54] <giarc> ducasse thanks. i got to the point apt-get autoremove runs... removed the -46 kernel and corresponding headers...is apt-get autoremove --purge how to get rid of the other older ones?
[20:55] <bekks> noob: And I like a working Java implementation ;) Sounds like a different use case :)
[20:55] <ducasse> giarc: you don't need --purge here
[20:55] <noob> openjdk works and is mainlined
[20:55] <noob> bekks:
[20:55] <benlk> WNope, abck to not working.
[20:55] <bekks> noob: For all of our use cases, it doesnt work.
[20:55] <wedgie> anyone have a link that describes how alt-tab behavior works in Unity? Just when I think I understand it I find myself surprised by what happens the next time I hit alt-tab. Sometimes it switches between apps (ex, from terminal to firefox) and sometimes it switches between multiple instances of the same app (then what is alt-` for?)
[20:56] <noob> bekks: for all resonable usecases neither does closed source
[20:56] <giarc> ducasse ok. how do i get rid of the rest of the old kernels?
[20:57] <ducasse> giarc: autoremove didn't clean them?
[20:57] <nicomachus> giarc: how many you got?
[20:57] <nicomachus> giarc: "sudo ls /boot" will list them all
[20:57] <CacheMoney> stupid question, say I have 2 NICs configured and I wanted to have iSCSI targets be accessed via eth1 rather than eth0, I would just connect to the target via eth1's IP address, right?
[20:58] <giarc> ducasse only one, -46...left a -30m 48, 49. 50, 51, 52(the running kernel )
[20:58] <winsen1> hi all
[20:58] <winsen1> can you please tell me how to restore ntfs partition with ubuntu cd live?
[20:58] <FManTropyx> I have 4
[20:58] <Javabean> there you got it, winsen1
[20:58] <nicomachus> have to remove those manually, then, giarc
[20:58]  * giarc wonder what the hell i did to this machine
[20:58] <CacheMoney> winsen1: use testdisk
[20:58] <winsen1> Javabean: now yes
[20:58] <FManTropyx> the last dist-upgrade installed 85, but my system is not using it
[20:59] <winsen1> CacheMoney: after that?
[20:59] <nicomachus> giarc: sometimes linux-image-generic will get marked as "manually installed" and then autoremove doesn't remove them.
[20:59] <nicomachus> or the autoremove script will just get wonky.
[20:59] <ducasse> giarc: 'dpkg -l linux-image\* | grep ^ii' will give you the package names, just remove the old ones.
[21:00] <CacheMoney> winsen1: well whats wrong with the partitions?
[21:00] <CacheMoney> sorry, I'm out of the loop
[21:00] <winsen1> CacheMoney:it says not installed, I am using ubuntu live cd
[21:01] <winsen1> CacheMoney: I can't open the partition
[21:01] <winsen1> CacheMoney: I can't read the partition
[21:02] <winsen1> CacheMoney: any clue how to read the partition ntfs, I just need to take my file in.
[21:02] <noob> i have a headless 14.04 server.  what are my risks with a distro upgrade?
[21:03] <OerHeks> winsen use windows for restoring ntfs, i wouldn't use linux tools for that. without windows, try UBcd
[21:03] <winsen1> any clue?
[21:03] <winsen1> OerHeks: the problem I don't have windows disk
[21:04] <winsen1> OerHeks: don't you think I can fix it with other tools?
[21:04] <OerHeks> winsen1, yes, i gave you an example
[21:05] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | noob
[21:05] <noob> thanks ducasse
[21:08] <Joe520> hi
[21:09] <gdev> Anyone got Nvidia + Bumblebee running on Ubuntu 16.04? Seems like impossible right now, which is really bad for a stable release^^
[21:09] <tmuwa> hi Joe520
[21:09] <giarc> ducasse i probably should have used apt-get remove to remove those...still have the corresponding vmliz- and initrf.img and confs in /boot
[21:11] <topkek447> hey, does someone know if one can use grub as some kind of parental restriction, as in I can only but windows between certain times? If not is it possible to write a grub script for such a thing
[21:11] <OerHeks> gdev, bumblebee is old, nvidia prime is current https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[21:12] <gdev> both doesn't work
[21:13] <OerHeks> topkek447, you can protect with password, all entries or just one > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords
[21:13] <gdev> OerHeks: Both leave a not useable system when installed. Be it nvidia-current, nvidia-364, or any other nvidia version
[21:13] <OerHeks> topkek447, not on time based AFAIK
[21:14] <winsen1> OerHeks: what about gparted?
[21:14] <OerHeks> winsen1, gparted is a partitionmanager, not to recover ntfs
[21:14] <OerHeks> winsen1, again: without windows, try ubcd , tons of tools like ntfs fix
[21:15] <winsen1> OerHeks: what about ultimate boot?
[21:15] <topkek447> OerHeks, oh ok thanks
[21:15] <gdev> maybe give knoppix also a try, contains many tools for such things
[21:15] <OerHeks> what about it? i dont know that
[21:16] <OerHeks> topkek447 maybe your router have parental control
[21:19] <backbox_> hi
[21:24] <curlyears> HELP
[21:25] <curlyears> when I boot my 16.04 install DVD, it doesn't display any of tghe graphical screens, it just dumpes me to a text console, where it offers
[21:25] <curlyears> me a choiice of "Try ubuntu, install,
[21:25] <curlyears> maNUFACTURER'S INSTALL, OR CHECK DIS
[21:26] <curlyears> THE DISC CHECKS WITHOUT ANY REPORTED ERRORS
[21:26] <clg1> hey I'm trying to connect to an ftp server on my phone. it gives me ftp://192.168.X.XXX:2221 but I can't seem to get the command syntax right. I've used ftp before but it's alwasy to a website not an ip address. What am I doing wrong?
[21:26] <clg1> Also it's setup to allow anonymous users
[21:27] <curlyears> but when I try to install, it goes to a black screen, waits about 20 seconds, the tells me:  "MoklistRT not found"  waits about 1 second, the clears the screen and dumps me to a "grub (rescue)" promptt
[21:29] <curlyears> and, to top that off, I seem to have "misplaced" my 14.04.4 DVD )-:
[21:31] <curlyears> what the (*%^*(%(^ is "MoklistRT" and why is it missing?
[21:32] <curlyears> *WOW* it's quiet in here this afternoon
[21:35] <tmuwa> Here it is 23:34 :-D
[21:36] <curlyears> anyone?
[21:37] <k1l_> curlyears: http://askubuntu.com/questions/762162/acer-3810t-boot-fails-with-ubuntu-16-04
[21:38] <k1l_> seems to be device specific for uefi stuff.
[21:45] <tooryasnm> can someone help me with conky?
[21:48] <tmuwa> depends on your problem tooryasnm
[21:49] <curlyears> tmuwa: do you know anything about installing 16.04 from a .iso?
[21:49] <tmuwa> a little bit curlyears
[21:49] <k1l_> tooryasnm: help with what exactly? did you ask in #conky ?
[21:50] <curlyears> k1ll_:  did you happen to see the description of my currernt problem with installing 16.04 from the .iso?
[21:51] <curlyears> or did you, tmuwa?
[21:51] <k1l_> curlyears: scroll up, i did answer
[21:52] <tooryasnm> k1l_, i did ask in that channel people dont help there
[21:53] <curlyears> k1l_:  no answers, juat a couple of questions, and it is specific to Acer hardware.  Also, though it does mention "MokListRT,"  the problem sounds rather different in nature
[21:53] <curlyears> k1l_:  but thanks for the pointer
[21:54] <k1l_> curlyears: i dont know about that error. is this a acer machine? what machine is it? what video card? is there an os installed already? is uefi activated? is secureboot activated?
[21:55] <LongFeng> Greetings. I need to set up a firewall, because there is no war withing the walls.
[21:55] <LongFeng> *within
[21:56] <LongFeng> Oh, by the way: The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai to fix his computer.
[21:57] <curlyears> k1l_:  not Acer, no/   it's a generic AMD64 FX-9300.  Onboard AMD grapics, no active OS (my root parition just mysteriusly became freespace)  uefi is activated.   I don't know what "secureboot" is, so I can't answer that, but I suspect not\
[21:57] <LongFeng> Everything is beautifully quiet. There is no war within the walls. Here, we are safe. Here, we are free.
[21:57] <curlyears> FX-8300,, sowwy
[21:58] <LongFeng> There is also no secure boot within the walls.
[21:58] <curlyears> LongFeng: do you live in a place with a goverment?  Then you are NOT safe
[21:59] <curlyears> k1l_: ?
[21:59] <curlyears> you there, k1l_?
[21:59] <LongFeng> Of course I do. Ba Sing Se remains a peaceful, orderly utopia - the last one on Earth. There is no war within the walls.
[21:59] <tmuwa> seems to be a uefi issue curlyears
[22:00] <OerHeks> !ot | LongFeng
[22:00] <k1l_> curlyears: i guess that is a uefi issue, as i said before. so maybe that hdd still got some stuff on it that makes the issue now.
[22:00] <curlyears> define "uefi issue" for me, tmu
[22:01] <tmuwa> do you know what uefi is curlyears ?
[22:01] <k1l_> curlyears: can you unplug the the hdd and try to boot the live dvd?
[22:01] <LongFeng> I do not want to create an account. There are no accounts within the walls. Here, we are safe. Here, we are free (of accounts).
[22:01] <OerHeks> i've noticed issue after issue, curlyears, i suspect hw failure
[22:01] <curlyears> I'll have to go doubl;e check, but EUFI *WAS* selected in the BIOS Setup menu
[22:02] <LongFeng> curlyears, the Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai.
[22:02] <curlyears> OerHeks: I am sadly beginnning to come to the same conclusion, must be a flakey motherboard
[22:02] <OerHeks> LongFeng, stop it please. keep this channel free for support
[22:02] <OerHeks> curlyears, could well be bad ram too
[22:03] <OerHeks> when 1 bit tumbles ..
[22:03] <curlyears> OerHeks: oh, don't even *THINK<* that.  My RAM consists of one 8GB pair of simms, and one 16GB pair.  replacement cost == *OUCH*
[22:04] <OerHeks> curlyears, oke, so you can check pairs
[22:04] <OerHeks> it is worth trying, to be sure
[22:04] <curlyears> I have run memtest86 (built intoi the BIOS) on an overnight basis, claimed it was error free.  How reliable is memtest86?
[22:05] <OerHeks> memtest is pretty accurate
[22:05] <k1l_> curlyears: unplug the hdd. then try to boot again
[22:05] <OerHeks> another good test, boot without hdd
[22:05] <OerHeks> k1l_ +1
[22:06] <curlyears> hmmm.  that removes the memory as a probable cause, then.  OK, back in a FEWE, GOING TO TRY BOOTIONG INTO INSTALL WITH NO hdd PTRESENT
[22:06] <curlyears> oops
[22:08] <WoodyPC> Hello everybody. You guys and gals remember 12.04LTS backgrounds in the "Appearance" tab in System Information? Whatever happened to that one background picture of, what looked like an armadillo? Can I get that from somewhere?
[22:09] <k1l_> WoodyPC: i bet some webpage still ships 12.04 wallpapers.
[22:09] <WoodyPC> yeah, I am looking now
[22:09] <OerHeks> most artwork/wallpapers are still in the repos. install synaptic ( detailed softwarecenter to see them)
[22:12] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-wallpapers/+packages
[22:12] <tgm4883> WoodyPC: all of them are still in the repos
[22:12] <tgm4883> !info ubuntu-wallpapers-precise
[22:12] <tgm4883> or if you are feeling like you need to have them all, ubuntu-wallpapers-complete
[22:12] <WoodyPC> thanks yall
[22:13] <tgm4883> ha, I lied. apparently the complete one is only for mate
[22:13] <tgm4883> but the other ones work
[22:18] <Codfection> is there any dictionary app for ubuntu
[22:18] <fearnothing> hi folks, I'd like a software recommendation please
[22:18] <OerHeks> Codfection, didn't find one in softwarecenter?
[22:19] <fearnothing> got my dad using ubuntu and one thing he misses from Windows is a decent interface for sorting and managing photos and video at the same time
[22:20] <fearnothing> e.g. by default recent versions of windows sort photo/video by the EXIF timestamp, and can view photos and play back video within a single interface
[22:20] <fearnothing> by default Ubuntu doesn't seem to do that. Can you recommend any software that would do that please?
[22:21] <Bashing-om> Codfection: ' apt search dictionary ' returns bunches . A lot to pick through .
[22:21] <mightywok> I haven't used Shotwell in a while, but it may be what you're looking for, in terms a sorting/managing photos solution
[22:22] <OerHeks> fearnothing, here is a list http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/top-linux-photo-software-managing-editing-snaps/
[22:22] <k1l_> fearnothing: gthumb, picasa, shotwell, ..
[22:22] <fearnothing> ahh, my google results were all quite old
[22:23] <fearnothing> saying picasa didn't support video :P
[22:23] <mightywok> Hasn't Picasa been abandoned?
[22:23] <OerHeks> fearnothing, and look for ubuntustudio metapackages, like ubuntustudio-photography
[22:23] <shinhg> is it possible to remove dvd codecs for gstreamer? i don't even remember what a dvd looks like
[22:23] <mightywok> remove codecs?
[22:23] <shinhg> gthumb is rubbish
[22:23] <OerHeks> mightywok, yeah, droped in 2012 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/google-officially-drop-picasa-for-linux
[22:24] <shinhg> yes, their codecs and their libraries
[22:24] <almark> is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 straight away ?
[22:24] <shinhg> leaving the good stuff like ffmpeg in
[22:24] <tgm4883> shinhg: really hurting for drive space are we?
[22:25] <shinhg> my disk space is for useful things
[22:26] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | almark
[22:26] <OerHeks> dvd codecs are are the same ffmpeg codecs, so i wonder what to remove
[22:26] <almark> aha
[22:26] <tgm4883> shinhg: so gaining like 50KB then?
[22:26] <almark> thanks k1l_
[22:27] <k1l_> almark: you can use the LTS upgrade now if you use the developer switch "-d" now. but this is the unofficial one
[22:28] <mightywok> I would probably wait for 16.04.1
[22:28] <mightywok> If you've waited this long...
[22:28] <dreamaddict> my Ubuntu 16.04 seems to have something wrong with the QML files when I try to use QtCreator...I am not sure if this is a problem with QtCreator or Ubuntu, but a lot of the modules that are throwing messages in QtCreator are Ubuntu components...
[22:28] <almark> i'll wait
[22:29] <shinhg> why don't they package gstreamer plugins separately?
[22:29] <DANtheBEASTman> i dun goofed and tried to install guitar pro (poorly packaged non-free software) and it installed a bunch of i386 libs.. is there an easy way to remove all i386 libs from my system? i tried dpkg -r \*:i386 but that didn't work..
[22:30] <tgm4883> shinhg: it's probably a lot of unnecessary work to do that
[22:30] <WoodyPC> thanks yall. I used Synaptic and got the 12.04 wallpapers. The one I wanted looks more like an ant eater. lol Whatever it is, it looks cool on 32 inches of screen. thanks again
[22:30] <dreamaddict> http://pastebin.com/z9AjHigS
[22:31] <shinhg> yet they took pains to separate them into good/bad/ugly
[22:31] <tgm4883> shinhg: actually, they already do
[22:31] <shinhg> some weird american thing
[22:31] <tgm4883> shinhg: they are already separated into separate codecs
[22:31] <tgm4883> shinhg: yea, totally blame america for that
[22:32] <OerHeks> DANtheBEASTman, best way would be removal of guitar pro, then clean up with autoremove/autoclean
[22:33] <fearnothing> thanks for the suggestions guys, we'll look into those and see what works best
[22:34] <WoodyPC> shinhg: Can we just blame the American Government? I am american and I promise you, I didn't do it! lol
[22:34] <MoonBurst> That's not American enough. Blame Trump.
[22:34] <shinhg> only us and japan copyright algorithms
[22:35] <WoodyPC> lol
[22:36] <tgm4883> shinhg: well, aside from the fact Canonical is a British company. How much of the dvd libraries do you want to remove? Do you want to remove mpeg2 codecs as well?
[22:39] <tgm4883> shinhg: I'm looking through the package and codecs, this seems like a lot of work for you to save less than 1MB of disk space
[22:39] <shinhg> idk, i need to test that
[22:39] <shinhg> and it's more like 90MB
[22:39] <tgm4883> shinhg: not from what I'm looking at
[22:39] <tgm4883> 5 packages
[22:39] <WoodyPC> I kind of wish I could give the Ubuntu makers a Contribution that would make a diiference. I know it is a "Free" OS, But in my opnion, It is, by far, Better than any other OS out there. It beats the heck out of Windows.
[22:40] <DANtheBEASTman> ah, I did it with dpkg --get-selections | awk '/i386/{ if($2=="install") {print $1; } }' | xargs -I% sudo apt-get purge -y %
[22:40] <tgm4883> WoodyPC: what do you mean a contribution?
[22:40] <shinhg> it's dependencies that take up space
[22:40] <DANtheBEASTman> bit of a hack but it worked
[22:41] <OerHeks> shinhg, remove all libdvdread4 packages, 13 items, totalling 13,7 kB
[22:41] <OerHeks> :-D
[22:41] <tgm4883> shinhg: I'm counting dependencies. Unless you want to get rid of libc6 too, it's these 5 packages
[22:41] <tgm4883> OerHeks: does that also remove libdvd-pkg libdvdnav4 libmpeg2-4 libmpg123-0
[22:42] <Bashing-om> WoodyPC: Participate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260620&p=13206678#post13206678 . Ubuntu Find-A-Task .
[22:42] <tgm4883> OerHeks: those are the 5 packages I can see. All add up to about 900KB
[22:42] <WoodyPC> tgm4883: When I downloaded the 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04LTS, I made a moderate donation. But IMOP, It is worth 1000 fold what I was able too donate.
[22:42] <OerHeks> tgm4883, not sure, wat looking for the libdvdread css installer
[22:42] <tgm4883> WoodyPC: ah, well you could always donate again, or donate your time to some project
[22:42] <tgm4883> OerHeks: that's libdvd-pkg
[22:43] <OerHeks> WoodyPC, donate .. or .. tell someone about ubuntu, that will be great
[22:43] <tgm4883> OerHeks: which probably pulls down another package, so it's a *little* more than 900KB. But even if it was 90MB I wouldn't be wasting my time on this
[22:43] <drong0> hi there. i have ubuntu on my thinkpad t520 and i closed the lid, reopened but it was just a blank screen (fan, etc. still on). did a hard reboot and now i have this fsck info (/dev/sdb2: clean,  . . . files . . . blocks) message display
[22:43] <drong0> anyone have tips?
[22:43] <OerHeks> tgm4883, true, the gained space will be small
[22:44] <shinhg> and i cannot just remove a single library as it would break dependencies and apt would stop working
[22:44] <drong0> ctrl + alt + f1 takes me to a login
[22:44] <tgm4883> shinhg: no it wouldn't
[22:46] <WoodyPC> tgm4883: You can ask Bashing-om, Even though I have been using Ubuntu a few years now, I still consider myself a "newbie". I used DOS and Windows until someone turned me on-to Linux. I didn't even read about it. I downloaded Ubuntu and installed it and left Windows in the dust. Crash course you might say.
[22:47] <tgm4883> WoodyPC: always a good way to get started. I'd point out that there are many ways to contribute (testing/documentation/coding/helping)
[22:48] <WoodyPC> tgm4883: Well, I am interested in anything I can do to help.
[22:48] <drong0> ah fixed!
[22:48] <OerHeks> !contribute
[22:49] <winsen1> hey guys, does know how to recover password and username?
[22:50] <OerHeks> winsen1, username should be visible at login.
[22:50] <OerHeks> !password
[22:51]  * shinhg considers linux too broken for any serious work
[22:51] <vlab> is there any particular reason i keep getting a popup from OpenSSH requesting my passphrase for my ssh key?
[22:51] <WoodyPC> So you'all would consider the fact that I offer both 32 and 64 bit versions of Ubuntu as an Operating System in my System builds, A way of helping?
[22:51] <vlab> started up last night when i started pushing and committing to my gitlab repo
[22:51] <winsen1> I can't believe it, I am using ubuntu libe and it ask me username and pasword!?
[22:51] <winsen1> live...
[22:52] <OerHeks> on the live iso, username = blank, password = ubuntu ..
[22:52] <OerHeks> or username = ubuntu, password = blank
[22:52] <winsen1> OerHeks: I don't know why!?
[22:52] <tgm4883> shinhg: noted
[22:53] <tgm4883> shinhg: maybe it's broken for you because you insist on removing "unnecessary" libraries
[22:54] <shinhg> people take pains writing autoconf scripts to keep stuff nice and lean
[22:54] <winsen1> OerHeks: It's ok now, I rebooted my disk after trying with UCBC, it seems not working unfortunetely nor with windows
[22:54] <shinhg> but maintainers just put everything together in a single package without any options
[22:55] <tgm4883> shinhg: I'm still wondering what you're talking about this "single package" since we debunked that earlier
[22:56] <Bashing-om> !minimal | shinhg These is this where you only install what you want .
[22:56] <shinhg> "gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:amd64 depends on libdvdread4" and so on
[22:56] <dreamaddict> is there a way to grep the contents of a terminal window from another terminal window?
[22:57] <tgm4883> shinhg: it's becoming clear you don't understand the concept of metapackages.
[22:57] <shinhg> gstreamer1.0-plugins-* are not metapacjages
[22:59] <OerHeks> shinhg, one solution: build the ffmpeg packages yourself, so you can control it.
[22:59] <tgm4883> shinhg: ah true, although those aren't the codecs either
[23:00] <mnathani> I am trying to get x11 forwarding working over ssh
[23:00] <shinhg> maybe some day i'll try that
[23:00] <mnathani> when I try ssh -X host, only command line comes up
[23:00] <mnathani> no x11 window
[23:01] <dreamaddict> if Ubuntu "suggests" a whole lot of boost libs as part of a package, should I install it (Boost)?
[23:02] <tgm4883> shinhg: actually, upon further research. I'm going back to my original statement on this package. It's very likely too much work to separate out the gstreamer plugins into separate packages
[23:02] <OerHeks> mnathani, On the server side, X11Forwarding yes must specified in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:02] <dreamaddict> hello fellow Ubuntu users!
[23:03] <OerHeks> dreamaddict, i would follow that suggestion, yes
[23:03] <dreamaddict> thank you :)
[23:04] <tgm4883> shinhg: Even if you still believe that each gstreamer plugin should be packaged separately, you're complaining to the wrong people
[23:13] <mnathani> OerHeks, I do have that
[23:15] <malinus> Hello. I currently trying to make following connection: "machine on internet" -> UDP -> VPS (static IP) -> 3G (unknown IP/none accessible ports) -> "UDP service on a machine". I've tried to do some socat magic, it  doesn't however seem possible. Any other ideas?
[23:15] <buntunoob> Adding arrows to an image is a pain (and looks disgusting) under GIMP. Any recommended alternatives?
[23:16] <squinty> mnathani,  once you have made your ssh connection, have you tried typing a program's name?
[23:17] <\ni> buntunoob, maybe use a bow?
[23:17] <dschense> iam running a ubuntu machine with running port which could be used over the web. but the service is running on a different machine on the same network. now i am trying to forward the traffic on machin A over port 5055 to machine B over port 5055. i tryed with iptables but had no luck. reset everything to before. this is my actual iptables rules http://pastebin.com/yg3bNnNS can anybody help?
[23:18] <OerHeks> buntunoob, tons of paint programs, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/department/painting/
[23:19] <buntunoob> OerHeks, ty.
[23:19] <dschense> by the way, DerKeks i found a working backup and was able to reset the machine ;)
[23:21] <shinhg> i think he wants a vector graphics
[23:21] <OerHeks> dschense, nice
[23:38] <dreamaddict> Can anyone make sense out of these errors? http://pastebin.com/MNqawicV  --  I am trying to make a Qt Quick Controls Application in Qt Creator, but this happens when I try to create a new project.
[23:38] <dreamaddict> the QML is busted
[23:41] <dreamaddict> hello everyone!
[23:42] <owen1> where is the source code for 14.04? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/
[23:45] <squinty> owen1, Software and Updates -> toggle "sources" on
[23:46] <squinty> owen1,  actually labled as "source code"
[23:46] <owen1> squinty: it's a server. i don't have any GUI
[23:47] <dreamaddict> Can anyone make sense out of these errors? http://pastebin.com/MNqawicV  --  I am trying to make a Qt Quick Controls Application in Qt Creator, but this happens when I try to create a new project.
[23:49] <squinty> owen1,   /etc/apt/sources.list   you can enable them there
[23:49] <nacc> owen1: you need to add deb-src lines as appropriate
[23:52] <dreamaddict> does anyone know why QML would be broken in Ubuntu?
[23:52] <owen1> squinty: nacc our lawyers need list of all open source project i use and a url to the source code.
[23:53] <owen1> i need to find a link to the sourcecode of ubuntu 14.04.
[23:54] <squinty> owen1, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[23:55] <owen1> squinty: thanks. it looks like i need http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/  but where can i see the license?
[23:55] <nacc> owen1: you will need to, in general, go to: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<packagename>
[23:56] <k1l_> owen1: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[23:56] <nacc> owen1: or tell your lawyers to learn about `pull-lp-source`
[23:56] <k1l_> owen1: ubuntu is a distributor. so it ships a lot of packages/projects which have different licences. there is not one license or one sourcecode.
[23:57] <owen1> k1l_: oh
[23:57] <owen1> interesting
[23:57] <piper25> anyone used ubuntu live usb with persistance?...Im able to get ubuntu to boot on a usb fine.. but the options look the same as a live cd bootup for instance is says try or intall ubuntu instead of run ubuntu from usb is this the way it should be for persistance?
[23:58] <k1l_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/source/