[04:05] <Tanis143> Thats what most people do, put their hardware in their sig line
[04:05] <McFrosty> ty
[04:05] <mib_fdczn6gn> Quick question about reconfiguring xorg......I had to install ubuntu 8.10 with the standard 'vesa' driver.  My video card is actually a "Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)" (945gm chipset in the computer).... What do I put in my "Device" section?
[04:05] <mib_7fb92a> TheFunkbomb: u try icedtea?
[04:05] <miranda_psi> TheFunkbomb: have you tried using the official java from sun?
[04:06] <TheFunkbomb> mib_7fb92a, yes, I tried icedtea as well.  No joy there either
[04:06] <TheFunkbomb> miranda_psi, yes, that's what I have installed now, I believe.  Java6
[04:06] <TheFunkbomb> I even did a command line to get the latest
[04:06] <miranda_psi> TheFunkbomb: you using 64bit?
[04:06] <TheFunkbomb> miranda_psi, 32bit
[04:07] <Tanis143> Ah, I'm using 64bit and have had no problems with java for flash on mine
[04:07] <Tanis143> java or flash that is...
[04:07] <Tanis143> oops
[04:07] <miranda_psi> TheFunkbomb: then you shouldn't have any problems - I'm using 64bit and a prerelease of the next java update that has a 64bit plugin and I don't have any problems with java online
[04:07] <Tanis143> bbl
[04:07] <mib_7fb92a> TheFunkbomb: i hate java.  its even worse in fedora & suse.  but -- icedteam usually works for me
[04:08] <TheFunkbomb> I think maybe I mucked something up with my install.
[04:08] <TheFunkbomb> my ubuntu install.
[04:08] <mib_7fb92a> TheFunkbomb: u load jre too???
[04:08] <TheFunkbomb> mib_7fb92a, let me check
[04:09] <TheFunkbomb> mib_7fb92a, I have Sun Java 6 run time and Sun Java 6.0 Plugin
[04:09] <mib_fdczn6gn> No takers on my xorg question?
[04:09] <EADG> How can I input a text file into the rm command to automatically delete a list of dupe files? "rm < /home/dupelist.txt" gives the error "rm: missing operand"
[04:09] <mib_7fb92a> TheFunkbomb: that *should* work
[04:10] <TheFunkbomb> Last night I was talking to a dude who had issues too.  We tried to resolve it together but we are both new to this
[04:10] <TeamColtra[TFD> I was following some instructions on how to mount an FTP file Using curlftpfd and I came to the following code:
[04:10] <TeamColtra[TFD> sudo echo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/path/to/mountpoint fuse allow_other,uid=userid,gid=groupid 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[04:11] <clop> Halo... I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy 8.10.. I want to install postgresql-8.2 but I can't get the package from apt. I just can see postgresql-8.3. How I can get package postgresql-8.2 as I get it in Ubuntu 7.10
[04:11] <TheFunkbomb> I'm sure it's a user error.  When I reinstall Ubuntu, I'll just give XP enough room for some updates and Firefox.  Not half of my HDD like I have it now
[04:11] <clop> thanks
[04:11] <TeamColtra[TFD> Does that mean the FULL path, or the path of FTP (for instance the full path is like /fatcow/hosting/teamcoltra/www while FTP recognises it as /www
[04:11] <jedex> hi all. when i run ps from a terminal i dont see an x11 related processes. is this because those processes are not associated with the terminal that i invoked?
[04:11] <mib_7fb92a> TheFunkbomb: mine has Java 1.7 JRE with icedtea
[04:11] <Starnestommy> joejc: try running ps aux
[04:11] <Starnestommy> joejc: oops
[04:11] <joejc> ?
[04:11] <TheFunkbomb> mib_7fb92a, I'm going to look for other java based games and see what happens
[04:11] <Starnestommy> jedex: try ps aux
[04:11] <joborociroboroqu> why when I try to enter in some channels im directed to ##you_are_kidding thing like that??
[04:11] <miranda_psi> jedex: ps -A
[04:12] <Starnestommy> joborociroboroqu: which channels?
[04:12] <jedex> thank you
[04:12] <joborociroboroqu> brasil
[04:12] <miranda_psi> jedex: ps just get the process involved with where you call it from, the -A tells it to list all processes
[04:12] <Starnestommy> joborociroboroqu: #brasil?
[04:12] <Makuseru> Hi, Ive got a program that wont let me shrink its size horizontally, only make it longer. Does anyone know why this would happen, or how i could fix it?
[04:13] <EADG> TeamColtra[TFD: I believe the /path/to/mountpoint fuse is the path you where you want to mount locally, /media/FTP1 for ex.
[04:13] <Starnestommy> joborociroboroqu: some channels are closed and forwarded to that channel or ##unavailable if they violate freenode's policies
[04:13] <miranda_psi> Makuseru: the only way to fix that would be to go get the code and edit it...
[04:14] <TheFunkbomb> hmm, this java game worked
[04:14] <joejc> how big should my home folder be?
[04:14] <TheFunkbomb> let me see what literati requires
[04:14] <Makuseru> miranda_psi: The program use to let me make it any size i want, but now i can only increase its horzintal size, or shrink or inscrease its vertical size.
[04:14] <mib_7fb92a> TheFunkbomb: cool.  then its the game...   my test is always: go to NYTimes site and try loading the classic crossword puzzl
[04:14] <TheFunkbomb> mib_7fb92a, I will try that next
[04:15] <TeamColtra[TFD> EADG: Does it have to exsist first, or will it create it (do you think?)
[04:15] <earthmeLon> Okay guys, I am getting really upset.  All of my input fields in FF are typing backwards.  I can't use CTRL+A to select everything and moving the cursor with the arrow keys fails.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I've restarted FF.  It remedied the problem, but only for a few minutes.  Help will be GREATLY appreciated
[04:15] <EADG> TeamColtra[TFD: Create the dir first... gimme a sec, need to look something up.
[04:16] <miranda_psi> Makuseru: is this a different version than what you used to use?
[04:16] <dragon1> DasE1:sorry when i type aplay -l it shows no sound card found . howdo i go furrther
[04:16] <Soulwarp> I have a novice question.
[04:17] <Makuseru> miranda_psi: No, one day when i opened it it just decided to only let me increase the horizintal size
[04:17] <snowcomb> Have any of you ever come across a fixed-width font that had equal height and width?
[04:17] <Soulwarp> How do i find my IP address if im on a network
[04:17] <EADG> TeamColtra[TFD: Yes, mkdir first. then do sudo modprobe fuse.
[04:17] <miranda_psi> Makuseru: what program is it?
[04:17] <Makuseru> miranda_psi: Ardour
[04:17] <EADG> Soulwarp: ifconfig
[04:18] <miranda_psi> soulwarp: ifconfig eth0 (assuming you are using ethernet) or you can use the networkmanager tool in the system tray
[04:18] <TeamColtra[TFD> EADG: Mkdir Media/FTP1 should work?
[04:18] <click170> earthmeLon: Did you try #firefox or #mozilla?
[04:18] <EADG> snowcomb: Other than using caps none come to mind.
[04:19] <Soulwarp> miranda_psi: it's only showing my network IP address
[04:19] <earthmeLon> No click170 willdo
[04:19] <click170> earthmeLon: scratch #mozilla, not a room
[04:19] <luis_> hi guys good nite all i like to ask for help i have xubuntu 8.10 and i am trying to launch zsnes but it just wont happen can somebody help me to fix this pls?????
[04:19] <MyName> did u guys watch the golden globes?
[04:19] <miranda_psi> soulwarp: isn't that what you wanted?
[04:20] <abz> luis_: morning (here)
[04:20] <quaal> why does gnome panel disappear
[04:20] <abz> luis_: try to launch zsnes from terminal
[04:20] <rookie1> golden globes are boring
[04:20] <dragon2> can someone guide me to conf sound card
[04:20] <TeamColtra[TFD> #Off-Topic
[04:20] <EADG> TeamColtra[TFD: mkdir /media/FTP
[04:20] <TeamColtra[TFD> whoops
[04:20] <clop>  Halo... I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy 8.10.. I need to install postgresql-8.2 but I can't get the package from apt. I just can see postgresql-8.3. How I can get package postgresql-8.2 as I get it in Ubuntu 7.10 thanks
[04:21] <Soulwarp> miranda_psi: i don't think my IP address is the generic 192.168 address
[04:21] <EADG> How can I input a text file into the rm command to automatically delete a list of dupe files? "rm < /home/dupelist.txt" gives the error "rm: missing operand"
[04:21] <luis_> i tried already but it wont launch i also created a zsnes launcher icon on my desktop but it just wont work
[04:22] <Soulwarp> miranda_psi: lets say i wanted to VNC this PC from another location
[04:22] <jdjennin> Hello, everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 8.04 with compiz running and emerald as the window decorator. When I try to use Maple, the JPanel that has the whole workspace in Maple won't appear. When I turn off compiz, it works perfectly fine. Can anyone help me with this?
[04:22] <abz> clop: 8.10 is intrepid not gutsy -_-
[04:22] <miranda_psi> soulwarp: how are you connected to the network?
[04:22] <Soulwarp> miranda_psi: how can i get the IP address to help me connect to it over the internet
[04:22] <Soulwarp> miranda_psi: router
[04:23] <Hannibalism> iwconfig?
[04:23] <abz> luis_: try open terminal, and type "zsnes" then the problem causes will appeared  .
[04:23] <Soulwarp> Hannibalism: i think that's wifi
[04:23] <Joe_> intrepid, how do I fix: (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so
[04:23] <miranda_psi> soulwarp: then the ip it gave you - the 192.168 is probably correct
[04:23] <Joe_> The problem is obvious, the // but I can't figure out WHY it does that
[04:23] <Ryan_Delaney> Soulwarp: To find ip addreses of devices on your network, I recommend zenmap. $ sudo apt-get install nmap zenmap
[04:23] <luis_> abz thats the weird thing theres no error see for your self look
[04:24] <dragon2> how can i troubleshoot my sound card...for aplay -l its shows no sound card found...
[04:24] <Soulwarp> Ryan_Delaney: thanks i'll try that
[04:24] <abz> luis_: ow yeah?? try delete .zsnes in home directory to reset zsnes config
[04:24] <luis_> abz this si just a part of what comes up on terminal after typing zsnes:
[04:24] <luis_> ZSNES v1.51, (c) 1997-2007, ZSNES Team
[04:24] <luis_> Be sure to check http://www.zsnes.com/ for the latest version.
[04:24] <luis_> ZSNES is written by the ZSNES Team (See AUTHORS.TXT)
[04:24] <luis_> ZSNES comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software,
[04:24] <luis_> and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions;
[04:24] <FloodBot1> luis_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <miranda_psi> soulwarp: if you wanted to use vnc to get to it from the internet you would have to configure your router to forward the vnc port to your computer and you would connect to the ip of your router as given by your isp (you can find the ipaddress in the router status area usually)
[04:25] <MyName> did u guys watch the golden globes?
[04:25] <mib_7fb92a> MyName: OT
[04:25] <abz> luis_: i c i c
[04:25] <Soulwarp> miranda_psi: that makes sense
[04:25] <MyName> what
[04:25] <mib_7fb92a> MyName: offtopic.   do you have an ubuntu question?
[04:25] <MyName> yes
[04:26] <dragon2>  how can i troubleshoot my sound card...for aplay -l its shows no sound card found...i am using ubuntu 8.10...
[04:26] <Frederick> Folks I need help.My PC does not allow a partition to be smaller. I tried to resize it both with in vista partitioner and kubuntu partitioner with no luck. Ive ran a defrag and scan disk, what else can I do?
[04:26] <outofthemadness> hey does anyone in here know how to change the syntax highlighting for an entire filetype in gedit?
[04:26] <abz> luis_: how??
[04:26] <Ryan_Delaney> Frederick: What kind of partition is it? filesystem?
[04:27] <luis_> abz whas i c i c ???
[04:27] <Frederick> Ryan_Delaney: at the momment i have a big ntsf part
[04:27] <Frederick> Ryan_Delaney: I want to add partiotions for linux and data
[04:27] <abz> luis_: have u del .znes dir in your home dir?
[04:27] <luis_> i am working on it
[04:27] <Ryan_Delaney> Frederick: Some filesystems cannot be shrunk. I think NTFS can be but I'm not sure. also, double check that the partition isn't mounted anywhere
[04:28] <luis_> i am on file system and then where to???
[04:28] <abz> luis_: i've theproblem in zsnes . ..but in my case, i must reconfig .lock directory
[04:28] <abz> luis_: cd ~ in terminal
[04:29] <dragon2> when i try  aplay -l its shows no sound card found...i am using ubuntu 8.10...i am not able to play any sounds how do i go about?
[04:29] <DasE1> dragon2: does lspci find your s-card ?
[04:29] <lex0> hey to the guy i was just talking to plz message me i forgot your nick lol
[04:29] <dragon2> DasE1: no...
[04:30] <DasE1> dragon2:sure there is on on themn at all ? or broken ?
[04:30] <DasE1> *one
[04:30] <quaal> why does gnome panel disappear
[04:30] <mib_7fb92a> TheFunkbomb: logging off for the nite.  any luck with java?
[04:31] <dragon2>  DasE1: what do i do ..?
[04:31] <DasE1> dragon2:type lspci in terminal and look fo a soundcard
[04:32] <dragon2> DasE1:http://paste.ubuntu.com/103766/ check this link
[04:33] <Joe_> intrepid, how do I fix: (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so
[04:33] <Wicked> !puregnome
[04:34] <jenpoj> cual es el canal de ubuntu español?
[04:34] <eseven73>  !es
[04:34] <malikeye> looking for some info on mirroring... is the 'pool' directory a collection of all versions of ubuntu?
[04:34] <malikeye> I just want intrepid mirrored locally, for now
[04:35] <rwparris2> hey guys I just installed ubuntu 8.04 and my screen is not centered, and sometimes flashes black, anyone know the solution to this?  it did not happen on the live CD
[04:35] <dragon2> DasE1:there is no entry on sound card but adio device...
[04:35] <nsadmin> rwparris2: find out what driver it used on the live cd and what driver it's using now
[04:35] <rwparris2> the resolution is correct it is just shifted about 1.5 inches to the right
[04:35] <dragon2> DasE1:sorry there is no entry on sound card but audio device
[04:36] <malikeye> if I go down into the different versions, I just see tarballs, so I have to assume pool is the repo itself
[04:36] <rwparris2> nsadmin: how do i know what driver is on the Live CD?
[04:36] <abz> !enlightenment
[04:36] <abz> !repository
[04:36] <Ryan_Delaney> !samba
[04:36] <nsadmin> not what driver is on the cd, but what driver is actually used for the video (maybe lsmod will show that)
[04:37] <mib_cabpo7bq> what are keyboard shortcuts to change screen resolution; i made my inaccessible by mouse??
[04:37] <nsadmin> also compare kernel versions
[04:37] <malikeye> thanks abz
[04:37] <abz> malikeye: why thx to me?? did i help u?
[04:37] <lianimator> Image Viewer is very slow after the latest upgrade, it's really starting to bug me.
[04:37] <nsadmin> start collecting this information into a text file
[04:37] <malikeye> abz: haha, yep :)
[04:37] <DasE1> dragon2:what a device ?
[04:38] <abz> malikeye: wew, the odd things . .
[04:38] <mib_cabpo7bq> i should just boot in in safe mode eh?
[04:38] <dragon2> DasE1: how do i make sound card to be detected
[04:38] <malikeye> abz: less than a minute after I asked the question :D
[04:38] <quaal> why has my gnome panel disappeared and how can i make it come back without rebooting?
[04:39] <DasE1> dragon2:what a device ?
[04:39] <dragon2>  DasE1: i didnt get you...?
[04:39] <Hannibalism> hay guise, is there a good tutorial for adding routing features to ubuntu 8.10?
[04:39] <abz> malikeye: heuu, i dunno watu talking .
[04:39] <DasE1> dragon2:what tells you lspci about sound ? (or audio...)
[04:39] <jskroll> Hello everyone.  I was wondering if you could help me figure out why I can't make an alarm play an mp3 in evolution mail? It won't play any sound in evolution, but all other sounds work. Ubuntu 8.10
[04:40] <abz> malikeye: i c i c . . bout command to obuttu yap?? =))
[04:40] <Frederick> Ryan_Delaney: NTFS can be shrunk Ivew done it before and for the mommet it is the only partition on the disk
[04:40] <dragon2>  DasE1: I had pasted the output in pastebin.http://paste.ubuntu.com/103766/
[04:40] <abz> !ntfs
[04:40] <sidney> my audigy sound card was installed but the drivers were not and ubuntu says  Module snd_ not found.
[04:40] <Frederick> abz: ?
[04:40] <abz> !ext4
[04:41] <malikeye> abz: nope... I need the repo information
[04:41] <exacube> hey, is it possible to get a list of all the libraries installed
[04:41] <exacube> that is, all the libs i can use for the -l argument for gcc
[04:41] <nsadmin> exacube: ls /usr/lib /lib
[04:41] <abz> malikeye: u want to mirroring yupz??
[04:41] <Frederick> OKI FOLKS IM OUT
[04:41] <jskroll> Can anyone help with evolution mail sounds?
[04:41] <Frederick> ops caps sorry
[04:41] <abz> anyone have tried ext4 fs??
[04:41] <malikeye> abz: yep
[04:42] <malikeye> with rsycn though
[04:42] <malikeye> err, rsync
[04:42] <eseven73> !lvm
[04:42] <dragon2> DasE1: hey are you there........?
[04:43] <DasE1> dragon2:close alsamixer, in trml : sudo modprobe hda_intel, reopen alsamixer, card there ?
[04:43] <abz> malikeye: i've found a tutor for deb mirroring . .
[04:43] <jskroll> I was wondering if you could help me figure out why I can't make an alarm play an mp3 in evolution mail? It won't play any sound in evolution, but all other sounds work. Ubuntu 8.10
[04:43] <abz> malikeye: but in indonesian lang . .:p
[04:44] <malikeye> abz: yeah, that won't help me ;)
[04:44] <abz> malikeye: i can translate for you . .
[04:44] <malikeye> just need to get familiar with the layout
[04:44] <eseven73> jskroll: you might have to install ubuntu-restricted-extras for mp3 stuff
[04:45] <abz> malikeye: fir u've to : sudo apt-get install debmirror apache2
[04:45] <jskroll> eseven73: I already have a restricted video driver
[04:45] <malikeye> abz: yeah, I need to rsync... my mirror server isn't ubuntu
[04:46] <eseven73> jskroll: that has nothing to do with mp3 stuff
[04:46] <quaal> why has my gnome panel disappeared and how can i make it come back without rebooting?
[04:46] <eseven73> jskroll: do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' in a terminal
[04:46] <jskroll> eseven73: I was only making a point that I've already broke the code
[04:46] <jskroll> eseven73: kidding
[04:46] <abz> malikeye: yeee . .. here is an ubuntu channel . . :p
[04:47] <abz> !rsync
[04:47] <whuffor> What does ubuntu-restricted-extras contain?
[04:48] <eseven73> !restricted
[04:48] <Joe_> with xorg what is module type1?  I get errors that it cna't be found to load
[04:48] <malikeye> !mirror
[04:48] <jedex> Has anyone here installed Abuse from the ubuntu packages site?
[04:48] <abz> !remaster
[04:51] <earthmeLon> I am having a problem with FF.  All input fields type backwords.  It seem my cursor isn't moving as I type.  i've tried pressing insert.  This effects FF!  Also, my arrow keys do not work and I can't perform CTRL+A or anything similar.  I'm in #firefox and nobody in there knows what to do.  ANy suggestions will be appreciated
[04:51] <jskroll> eseven73: that's taking a minute
[04:51] <DasE1> earthmeLon: you tried reinstallation  ?
[04:52] <earthmeLon> No DasE1, I have not.  That seems like an easy way out.  I'd rather figure out what is going on to not have it happen again, but it looks like that's my only option :\
[04:52] <DasE1> earthmeLon: f.e. the arrow keys work in other apps ?
[04:52] <Joe_> ah... shit
[04:53] <earthmeLon> This problem is restricted to FIREFOX
[04:53] <juiceypoo> hello
[04:53] <dragon2> Can someone guide me to enable sounds in ubuntu 8.10. my sound card is working well in windows but sound car not detected in ubuntu....
[04:53] <jskroll> eseven73: am I done when it shows this gray disclaimer thing? It says <ok> but it does nothing. Yes, I'm partially retarded.
[04:53] <juiceypoo> im having the same problem
[04:54] <DasE1> earthmeLon:(save your bookmarks ???!), then           sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[04:54] <eseven73> jskroll: does tab move it to <OK>?
[04:54] <rwparris2> is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[04:54] <jskroll> eseven73:-)
[04:54] <DasE1> rwparris2: alt&F2 > gnome-terminal
[04:54] <opera_> DRAGON2，have you the software of media?
[04:55] <jskroll> eseven73: yep
[04:55] <TeamColtra[TFD> I am having problems I am running a script to update my fstab file... and I keep getting: bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied
[04:55] <earthmeLon> DasE1  restarting firefox fixes the problem temporarily
[04:55] <eseven73> !away > cakey|lunch
[04:55] <juiceypoo> I just installed xubuntu,  can someone assist me in getting my wireless working? :-)
[04:55] <dragon2>  opera_:be clear please...
[04:55] <EADG> rwparris2: ctrl + alt + F1, or install Yaquake, gives a drop-down terminal with F12.
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> juiceypoo: what is your wireless device?
[04:55] <eseven73> jskroll: ok then you should just be able to press the ENTER key, if you havent already done that ;)
[04:56] <TeamColtra[TFD> I have updated permissions on /etc/fstab and still getting the error... I was going to do it manuly, however the fstab file scares me, and I would prefer to just use the prewriten code
[04:56] <DasE1> earthmeLon: which ubuntu do you use ? is it up to date ? if so, save your bookmarks.html and reinstall it
[04:56] <juiceypoo> no clue just bought this laptop, brb ill find out
[04:56] <Joe_> umm... 8.10 was having problems getting glx to work, found the /usr/lib/libGL* symlinks were pointing to the old drivers so I removed them and recreated the links pointing to the correct version... now X won't display... help...
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> juiceypoo: just run lspci in a terminal and see what it s
[04:56] <earthmeLon> 2.6.27-10-generic
[04:56] <jskroll> eseven73: ya, it's been chuggin away
[04:56] <eseven73> k
[04:56] <EADG> How can I input a text file into the rm command to automatically delete a list of dupe files? "rm < /home/dupelist.txt" gives the error "rm: missing operand"
[04:56] <ltgg> 8.10 newbie problem: cannot play a movie in DVD ..get ...Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file
[04:56] <ltgg> and
[04:56] <ltgg> You might want to check that a disc is present in the drive and that it is correctly configured. ... any help?
[04:56] <juiceypoo> lol, pardon my noobishness but how do i do that?
[04:57] <nsadmin> EADG: man xargs
[04:57] <opera_> when you click the iron of sound, it won't have any sound,in ubuntu.so you should download a sotfware of sound for test
[04:57] <jskroll> eseven73: Ok, I guess it's done.
[04:57] <EADG> nsadmin: will do.
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> juiceypoo: open a terminal ( can't remember exactly where thats at in Xubuntu).. then type "lspci" no quotes(thats a lower case L) hit enter, and see how it identifies your wireless device
[04:57] <jskroll> eseven73: reboot?
[04:57] <dragon2> opera_:how do i do that...?
[04:57] <eseven73> jskroll: na reboot is a windows concept...usually not needed in Linux
[04:58] <juiceypoo> Realtek Semiconductor
[04:58] <Shovi__> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/business/11ubuntu.html?_r=1
[04:58] <dragon2> opera_:when i click on sound ikon i see "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[04:58] <ltgg> this as a recent install, all updates, seem to recall it working before.
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> !realtek | juiceypoo
[04:59] <jskroll> eseven73:-) I was planning to install Windows7, but I got discouraged because I had to wait, so I installed Ubuntu and it's been otherwise easier than Windows, considering the help I can get.
[04:59] <ltgg> seems like something broke it
[04:59] <juiceypoo> thanks :) u are all so helpful here
[04:59] <jskroll> eseven73: windows7 beta, that is
[04:59] <ernz> Hi, I want to build a how-to on integrating Gmail into 8.10 seamlessly. I have forgotten how to create a new post on ubuntuforums.org, can anyone point me in the right direction please?
[05:00] <opera_> you can try to listen singer online.it will auto install some  fit software.
[05:00] <eseven73> jskroll: yep, that's what makes Ubuntu great, its not the OS, there's a million distros, just as good,  but its the Community that makes Ubuntu good. :)
[05:00] <Rodolfo> larala
[05:00] <Hikeractive> ernz, integrate how?
[05:01] <Rodolfo> s
[05:01] <DasE1> earthmeLon: ?
[05:01] <juiceypoo> indygunfreak, do you know how to get compiz working on xubuntu?
[05:01] <earthmeLon> DasE1  ubuntu is what I use.  Latest kernel.  I re-installed FF.  Seeing if it fixes it
[05:01] <Joe_> please... X appears to be broken... very very bad...
[05:02] <ernz> Gmail as default app, evolution database linking for contact applet compatibility, in-browser compose mailto links and notifier all in one how-to Hikeractive. Just the sort of thing I WANTED half an hour ago. I'm sure other people would be interested too.
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> juiceypoo: no.. seems kinda counter productive though counter productive.. xubuntu is for older hardware, compiz, can be quite resource intensive
[05:02] <ltgg> anyone? ... any help?
[05:03] <eseven73> Compiz in Xubuntu is an Oxymoron
[05:03] <DasE1> Joe_:are you on cmd-line ?
[05:03] <juiceypoo> hmmm, my system is decent, should i switch to ubuntu instead?
[05:03] <oxymoron> what
[05:03] <oxymoron> oh.
[05:03] <noodlesgc> :D
[05:03] <eseven73> O.o lol didnt know there was a nick by that name!
[05:03] <IndyGunFreak> juiceypoo: well what do you consider "decent'.. adn if its decent, what made you deside to try xubuntu?
[05:03] <dy_> server  eu.undernet.org 7000
[05:03] <ernz> Hikeractive: Do you know how to make a new thread on ubuntuforums.org?
[05:03] <eseven73> dy_: that's a no no.
[05:03] <Hikeractive> Hmm, I know Gmail IS integrated by default in Firefox -- just go to Preferences, Applications and search for mailto. The contact comp. might interest others.
[05:03] <Joe_> DasE1 yes, though an irritatingly broken one (doesn't scroll with more input and arrow keys don't work...), I have to switch to another screen (CTRL+ALT+F2) then back to see the new input...
[05:04] <juiceypoo> i just am sick of windows and wanted to learn about a new os
[05:04] <koshar1> juiceypoo you can have as many window managers as you like, if you want gnome, (default ubuntu window manager just install it, with sudo apt-get inastall ubuntu-desktop
[05:04] <oxymoron> eseven73, that's what I get for using a noun as a nick :D
[05:04] <juiceypoo> well lol...a FREE os
[05:04] <IndyGunFreak> juiceypoo: that makes sense, but you can always research the best choice.
[05:04] <eseven73> oxymoron: haha yep :)
[05:04] <juiceypoo> yes, i guess i listened to my friends first and google was thrown out the window
[05:04] <jskroll> eseven73: thanks for whatever that was, but it did not help evolution mail :-(
[05:05] <ernz> Hikeractive: Yea, that's the idea. The mailto links are actually handled by an addon called WebMailCompose in my solution.
[05:05] <eseven73> ah well jskroll least now you'll have everything you need to play mp3s/videos ;)
[05:05] <Necrosan> can't perform an upgrade for some reason
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> juiceypoo: xubuntu is good, nothing wrong with it, its just kinda geared towards older hardware, so compiz and xubuntu, just doesn't make much sense
[05:05] <Necrosan> says it can't calculate
[05:05] <jskroll> eseven73: cool
[05:05] <koshar1> IndyGunFreak IMHO the choice od desktop manager is a preferentual one, i actually like flux and use it on some machines that kde or gnome could reside quite welel
[05:05] <eseven73> jskroll: have you tried thunderbird?
[05:05] <DasE1> Joe_:if your x is broken, backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf and do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:05] <juiceypoo> i understand, so ubuntu would be a better choice for running compiz?
[05:06] <Hikeractive> ernz, since it's built in on the latest versions of Firefox, I would use the native -- just instruct people on HOW to do it. I'll check out the Ubuntu forums question for you.
[05:06] <eseven73> juiceypoo: yep
[05:06] <jskroll> eseven73: you would say that now that Ive worked so hard and dumped my gmail account in evolution
[05:06] <IndyGunFreak> koshar1: i agree, it is definitely preferential.. but if he's wanting to use compiz.. it just seems a normal gnome or kde install would make more sense
[05:06] <koshar1> IndyGunFreak many eeepc users use xfce with compiz
[05:06] <ernz> Hikeractive: I know a lot of people who prefer to rely on web-based email apps like Gmail. It's nice to have it all in one place. Nobody has done a comprehensive guide on making it all "Just work" (which people seem to obsess about in the Linux community)
[05:06] <IndyGunFreak> koshar1: i didn't say it couldn't be done, i just said it doesn't make much sense to me.. i use regular gnome on my AAO
[05:06] <abz> !lts
[05:06] <ernz> Hikeractive: I like the suggestion, how do you say to go about using FF3 to handle mailto's?
[05:06] <abz> !intrepid
[05:07] <Joe_> DasE1 as I said earlier... I was trying to fix an issue where (after upgrade to intrepid) my glx wouldn't work (using nvidia-glx-96), I found /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 was a symlink to the old drivers so I removed it and recreated with a symlink to the correct one, did the same for libGL.so.1 and restarted X... now it doesn't work
[05:07] <eseven73> jskroll: lol i spent an hour trying to get Seamonkey working with gmail just this morning, failed and went back to Thunderbird
[05:07] <Hikeractive> You go to FF3's prefs, then to Application tab, then search for mailto. You can select Gmail as a default there.
[05:07] <koshar1> IndyGunFreak while i see your point i still dont concur , compiz can run fine with any desktop manager that supports it
[05:07] <jskroll> eseven73: I have an idea: Could it be that I'm trying to access music from another user on my pc?
[05:07] <juiceypoo> i wonder if im the only 12 year old running xubuntu :P
[05:07] <IndyGunFreak> koshar1: well, then don't concur, i didn't ask for your approval of my opinion
[05:07] <IndyGunFreak> koshar1: and i never once said you couldn't run xfce and compiz
[05:08] <koshar1> juiceypoo i doubt it
[05:08] <ernz> Hikeractive: Negatory. I see "Yahoo!" mail. No gmail by default though. :(
[05:08] <eseven73> jskroll: hmmm could be, im not really a sound guru so i couldnt say for sure.
[05:08] <ltgg> is there another Ubuntu channel where someone new to Linux might get some help?
[05:08] <jskroll> eseven73: ok
[05:08] <ernz> Hikeractive: Perhaps it installed on your FF3 alongside a toolbar or something?
[05:08] <jskroll> eseven73: thinking with my fingers, I should just try it
[05:08] <koshar1> IndyGunFreak i definately didnt set out to offend you just i beleive your view is incorrect
[05:09] <Hikeractive> ernz, no, default install. In fact, I just installed last night onto my netbook. Which version are you running?
[05:09] <eseven73> jskroll: are you using pulseaudio?
[05:09] <IndyGunFreak> koshar1: well, like i said, if i'd wanted your approval, i'd have asked for it..
[05:09] <DasE1> Joe_:k, I see, the hint for reconfiguring xorg works on ibex too, but I'm out for upgrading issues
[05:09] <ernz> 8.10 w/ FF3 3.0.5
[05:09] <ernz> Hikeractive: 8.10 w/ FF3 3.0.5
[05:09] <juiceypoo> i didnt mean to start that argument lol
[05:09] <Hikeractive> Hmm... that's peculiar. Same here. Maybe the Better Gmail 2 Add on did it.
[05:10] <juiceypoo> would i be able to find gnome or compiz on the synaptic package manager?
[05:10] <ernz> Hikeractive: I'll test your theory.
[05:10] <eseven73> yep juiceypoo
[05:10] <Hikeractive> ernz, it's the only addon that I have presently installed.
[05:10] <juiceypoo> thanks eseven
[05:10] <IndyGunFreak> juiceypoo: its not an argument, he's trying to suggest i said something that i didn't.
[05:11] <koshar1> juiceypoo yes, to install gnome as i said earlier, use ubuntu -desktop and for kde , use kubuntu-desktop ect..
[05:11] <juiceypoo> im just yankin ur chain
[05:11] <Necrosan> How do I update ubuntu with apt-get dist-upgrade/
[05:11] <Joe_> DasE1 it seems the issue is that I had manually installed Nvidia 169.12 in hardy, when I upgraded it went to ubuntu's version of the 96.43.09 driver... but left all the symlinks as they were (pointing ot 169.12 drivers)
[05:11] <Necrosan> is there a guide somewhere? update manager is borking
[05:11] <Necrosan> 2009-01-11 22:37:30,949 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[05:11] <ernz> Hikeractive: Interesting: Still no Gmail application
[05:12] <ltgg> thanks for nada folks
[05:12] <eseven73> juiceypoo: thats the nice thing about ubuntu, theres over 23,000 apps for it, if you look on wikipedia for comparison of linux distros, most of them only have like 10K or 5K apps in the repos
[05:12] <tonsofpcs> eseven73: and how many of them work right from the official distros?
[05:12] <juiceypoo> dang thats alot of apps, ill be having my fun :)
[05:12] <tonsofpcs> and are you counting true apps or packages?
[05:12] <koshar1> IndyGunFreak "it doesn't make much sense to me" 30 lines up, and it makes perfect sence to me why people would use compiz with xfce, and i gave an example with a EEEpc,
[05:12] <DasE1> Joe_:did ibex overtook the xorg.conf of hardy ?
[05:13] <tonsofpcs> because ubuntu requires about 12 packages for an app that on deb required only one.
[05:13] <ernz> Hikeractive: U got any google apps or products installed elsewhere?
[05:13] <Hikeractive> ernz, I just read that some people, like me, DO have it as a default. Perhaps it depends on whether you upgraded from a previous version to the latest or not.
[05:13] <Hikeractive> ernz, and no.
[05:13] <IndyGunFreak> koshar1: and thats why its an opinion, if you don't liek it, "/ignore indygunfreak", no quotes, will fix your problem
[05:13] <Joe_> DasE1 yes, it all worked find minus the glx failing to load, which AFAIK is because these symlinks are all wrong
[05:13] <juiceypoo> lol
[05:13] <koshar1> IndyGunFreak whatever
[05:13] <eseven73> tonsofpcs: according to wikipedia, appz, but who knows really
[05:14] <Joe_> DasE1 manually putting the symlinks back to the way they were lets X start up, without working glx
[05:14] <Joe_> DasE1 (thank god)
[05:14] <Hikeractive> ernz, alternatively, while at gmail.com, you can type this in the location bar, and it will allow you to set gmail as default: javascript:window.navigator.registerProtocolHandler("mailto","https://
[05:14] <Hikeractive> mail.google.com/mail/?extsrc=mailto&url=%s","Gmail")
[05:14] <juiceypoo> theres alot of gnome apps i dont know which one to choose
[05:14] <luhkevin> exit
[05:14] <ernz> Hikeractive: A nice workaround to install the service http://lifehacker.com/392287/set-firefox-3-to-launch-gmail-for-mailto-links
[05:15] <Guest67283> how can i figure out what server wine is trying to connect to for a games o i can change the iptables to the proper address?
[05:15] <Baz_> hey, I setup Raid5 through my bios (some call it FakeRAID) and I am trying to install ubuntu 8.10... I read the docs on using dmraid or the alternate install, but when I do the drive is detected as a RAID1 rather than RAID5  -anyone know about this? Thanks!
[05:15] <eseven73> tonsofpcs: like example Fedora doesnt have a lot of window managers in the repos like Ubuntu does, I know im comparing apples to oranges at this point, but meh :/
[05:15] <Necrosan> How do I update ubuntu with apt-get dist-upgrade/
[05:15] <Necrosan> 2009-01-11 22:37:30,949 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[05:16] <DasE1> Joe_:hm, ibex uses xorg 7.4 and more functions are implemented in the kernel by dbus and hal, and I have no idea how to translate that to ibex, maybe a start with an emtpy xorg works
[05:16] <koshar1> juiceypoo choose the ones you want to use, it comes down to choice at the end of the day, you are not even locked into apps by window manager, most apps will run fine on any window manager. lots of people use amarok on gnome, xfce... and firefox on KDE.
[05:16] <juiceypoo> i see
[05:16] <modjor> how do i make chmod work on my mounted drive ? any other alternatives for changing priviledges on mounted drives ?
[05:16] <Joe_> DasE1 definately not an xorg issue (xorg.conf.failsafe failed to load as well), it's something to do with the upgrade not doing what it should have and migrating everything over to the "new" way
[05:17] <koshar1> modjor you could use an fstab line with specific priveliges rather than using hal
[05:17] <ernz> Hikeractive: Would have been a nice idea. There are too many steps for a n00b. Either way something needs installed. It may as well be webmailcompose which is configurable and supported by documentation.
[05:17] <scunizi> DasE1, video is handled by xrandr
[05:17] <ernz> Hikeractive: Thanks for the idea though
[05:17] <modjor> let me look into fstab. thanks koshar1
[05:17] <DasE1> Joe_: so I got to step back there as I did fresh installs only
[05:18] <opera_> what is 'dual-boot system
[05:18] <DasE1> !dual
[05:18] <DasE1> !dualboot
[05:18] <scunizi> opera_, two or more os's on the same hard drive or computer
[05:18] <DasE1> whatthefuckhaveyouthought?!
[05:18] <DasE1> ups..
[05:18] <eseven73> O.o
[05:19] <opera_> SCUNIzi, dual is double?
[05:19] <scunizi> opera_, yep
[05:19] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:19] <scunizi> like he didn't know
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> scunizi: lol.. i wasn't gonna say anything.. I'll order a dual burger next time see if they understand
[05:20] <scunizi> :)
[05:21] <Necrosan> 2009-01-11 22:37:30,949 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'  <---- getting this when trying to upgrade in main.log
[05:21] <jitu3485> hi , I am using ubuntu 8.10 and today my system re-started automatically. can't figure out what happened? /var/log/messages is at this URL: http://rafb.net/p/TlO4IV32.html
[05:21] <scunizi> Necrosan, do you have more repos enabled other than the standard? like "preposed" or something similar?
[05:22] <Brack101> hey is it possible to add a "sudo this" command to the context menu in nautilus kinda like in vista?  For example I want to extract some icons to /usr/share/icons but I have to go through the trouble of using the command line (I know, that's how I'm suppoed to do it)
[05:22] <Necrosan> scunizi: I don't think so. Just universe
[05:22] <Necrosan> ill put the sources.list online, sec
[05:22] <Necrosan> scunizi: http://koopanet.cjb.net/sources.list
[05:23] <eseven73> Brack101: i think Krusader or Thunar has that
[05:23] <Brack101> ok
[05:23] <eseven73> Krusader has everything
[05:23] <scunizi> Necrosan, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   .... cut and paste and see what happens.
[05:23] <corpis> i just installed ubuntu, whenever i install alot of the apt-get functions it is not finding them, comes up with... monster@monster-ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[05:23] <corpis> Reading package lists... Done
[05:23] <corpis> Building dependency tree
[05:23] <corpis> Reading state information... Done
[05:23] <corpis> E: Couldn't find package wine
[05:23] <FloodBot1> corpis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:23] <corpis> monster@monster-ubuntu:~$
[05:23] <Necrosan> scunizi: OK
[05:24] <corpis> woops
[05:24] <corpis> but when I loaded the same install in wmware on windows it worked fine
[05:24] <corpis> any ideas?\
[05:24] <scunizi> corpis do all the updates first.. see my last post above for the update  line.
[05:24] <IndyGunFreak> corpis: you probably need to add the wine repository
[05:24] <Necrosan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103775/
[05:24] <scunizi> IndyGunFreak, wine should be in the repos though.
[05:25] <eseven73> wine is in the repos already
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> scunizi: oh is it?.. i always just use the wine repo..  I stand corrected.
[05:25] <scunizi> Necrosan, looks good.
[05:25] <dj801> *-*
[05:25] <Necrosan> How do I get it to upgrade, now? ;)
[05:26] <Necrosan> It's running 6.06,, I'd like 8.10.
[05:26] <juiceypoo> Well thanks for the help everyone. Goodbye
[05:26] <scunizi> !upgrade | Necrosan
[05:26] <IndyGunFreak> Necrosan: you'll have to go 6.06-8.04, then 8.04-8.10
[05:26] <DasE1> Necrosan: do a fresh install
[05:26]  * IndyGunFreak agrees w/ DasE1
[05:26] <Necrosan> I can't. no cd drive in machine.
[05:26] <corpis> i didnt need the updates last time... but I will try that first
[05:26] <IndyGunFreak> Necrosan: ca you boot a USB device, like a thumbdrive?
[05:27] <Necrosan> No USB on this machine.
[05:27] <scunizi> Necrosan, if you have a seperate /home then you can fresh install the latest just don't format /home on install
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> Necrosan: lol, might be time to sell that to me for target practice
[05:27] <Necrosan> scunizi: It's a complicated install.
[05:27] <Necrosan> It's not x86.
[05:27] <opera_> Pentium-class CPU－－what
[05:27] <Necrosan> sparc64
[05:27] <Baz_> has anyone successfully get RAID5 to work with ubuntu?
[05:28] <Necrosan> An upgrade should be possible.. But it's borking.
[05:28] <BinaryBoy000> Will I be able to get good performance when running counter strike source using wine?
[05:28] <Necrosan> The error I posted is coming from main.log.
[05:28] <BinaryBoy000> my vid card is a 9800gtx+
[05:28] <Necrosan> /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log, anyway
[05:29] <Necrosan> IndyGunFreak: Can i go from 6.06 LTS to 8.04 directly?
[05:29] <Necrosan> Or must I hit hardy first?
[05:29] <remu> Hello everyone, quick question. I like using Geany to edit .c .java .html, and pretty much all source files that I deal with. Though currently I have to either open Geany and then use that to open a file, or right click the file and choose Geany to open it. If I just open the file on its own it opens up in Gedit. How can I set it so all source files are opened with Geany? I tried looking in "Preferred Applications" under System>Pre
[05:29] <remu> f. But either I'm blind or the option isn't there.
[05:29] <IndyGunFreak> Necrosan: 8.04 is hardy.
[05:29] <scunizi> Necrosan, you can't go direct.. unless you fresh install
[05:29] <Necrosan> Oh, duh.
[05:29] <IndyGunFreak> Necrosan: 6.06 and 8.04 are both LTS releases, so you can go from 6.06 to 8.04
[05:29] <IndyGunFreak> scunizi: yes he can.
[05:29] <qwexer__> how could I mount a partition automatically upon boot?
[05:30] <scunizi> IndyGunFreak, from 6.06 to 8.10?
[05:30] <Necrosan> IndyGunFreak: It is borking when I sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:30] <IndyGunFreak> scunizi: no, he said hardy..
[05:30] <Necrosan> I don't care if I must do 8.04 first
[05:30] <koshar1> Baz_ you mean software raid?
[05:30] <IndyGunFreak> Necrosan: then yes, you must to 8.04 first
[05:30] <scunizi> IndyGunFreak, ah.. missed that.. yep your right
[05:30] <Flannel> Necrosan: What do you mean borking?
[05:30] <IndyGunFreak> Necrosan: go 6.06 to 8.04, then 8.04 to 8.10
[05:30] <Baz_> remu: i think you have to have nautilus scripts for that - the easiest way would be to install 'ubuntu tweak' and use their menu for doing that
[05:30] <Necrosan> I am trying to do that, IndyGunFreak.
[05:31] <Necrosan> It stops and says cannot calculate or some crap
[05:31] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: i think he was trying to go 6.06-8.10
[05:31] <ohmygod> qwexer___, you have to edit /etc/fstab
[05:31] <Baz_> koshar1: ya, or fakeraid thru the bios
[05:31] <Necrosan> no, IndyGunFreak
[05:31] <Necrosan> I was trying to upgrade to hardy.
[05:31] <Flannel> Necrosan: What method are you using?
[05:31] <IndyGunFreak> Necrosan: ah, ok... sorry
[05:31] <remu> BinaryBoy000, I have an Nvidia 9200m GS, I also had an Nvidia 8400m GS, and an Nvidia Go Geforce 6150....running CS:S my performance with Wine was similar to that of it under Windows.
[05:31] <Necrosan> Flannel: sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:31] <Flannel> Necrosan: Are you fully up-to-date with Dapper?
[05:31] <Necrosan> Flannel: Yes.
[05:31] <qwexer___> ohmygod: ok thank you
[05:31] <BinaryBoy000> really?
[05:31] <Flannel> Necrosan: Hmmm, do you have any third party repositories enabled?
[05:31] <BinaryBoy000> when I tried last time, I was only getting like 25 FPS....
[05:31] <qwexer___> also, what does everyone use as an IRC client?
[05:32] <mbent_> hi, has anyone setup virtualisation with virtualbox with harddrive encryption (dm-crypt, cryptsetup etc)?
[05:32] <Necrosan> Flannel: Nope..
[05:32] <BinaryBoy000> can i use the same settings that I used in windows xp?
[05:32] <BinaryBoy000> like the same resolution and antialiasing
[05:32] <Necrosan> my sources.list is at http://koopanet.cjb.net/sources.list
[05:32] <trailmonger> whats the easiest way to convert ubuntu into debian?
[05:33] <Flannel> Necrosan: hmm, alright; that all looks good.  And you've installed update-manager-core I imagine, yes?
[05:33] <Flannel> trailmonger: Not painlessly, no.  Reinstallation is the easiest way
[05:33] <Necrosan> Flannel: yep. If you'd like I can let you ssh in to poke around..
[05:34] <strychnine> anyone know of any good free windows proxy servers
[05:34] <eseven73> strychnine: ask in ##windows
[05:35] <Flannel> Necrosan: Hmm.  I see a bug about this here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/277985  Does your main.log (I have no idea where that log is in your filesystem) say somethign similar?
[05:35] <strychnine> cool umm fist time in irc chat rooms how do i change room
[05:35] <eseven73> strychnine: type /join ##windows
[05:35] <Necrosan> Flannel: Nope, my main.log has this
[05:35] <Flannel> !paste | Necrosan
[05:35] <Flannel> Oh, right.  You know how to paste already.
[05:35] <Necrosan> 2009-01-11 22:37:30,949 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[05:36] <Necrosan> its one line ;)
[05:36] <strychnine> hey anyone know of a simple free proxy server for windows
[05:36] <christoz> greetings, i've read a rumor that canonical has recently decided to provide by pay, multimedia codecs and DVD playback software, to their users, is that a fact?
[05:36] <strychnine> .
[05:36] <Flannel> strychnine: Please don't ask here.  Ask in ##windows (/join ##windows)
[05:36] <scunizi> strychnine, still on the wrong channel ... what irc client are  you using.?
[05:36] <nroot7> I am upgrading to 9.04 and in the list of known issues, one issue is that it does not work properly with ATI drivers. Now I am using closed source ATI drivers right now. In case a problem comes when I restart the system, how should i revert to open source drivers?
[05:36] <Flannel> christoz: They have made them available by payment, yes.
[05:37] <Flannel> nroot7: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support questions, thanks
[05:37] <zetheroo> I followed the how-to on medibuntu to get DVD's to play but its still not playing them ... what to do?
[05:37] <Flannel> Necrosan: interesting.  Well, if you feel comfortable, we can do it manually
[05:37] <koshar1> zetheroo you could always try VLC
[05:37] <Necrosan> Flannel: More than comfortable :0
[05:37] <Necrosan> :)
[05:37] <Necrosan> GF won't be home for another hour and a half too
[05:37] <zetheroo> koshar1: thats what I am using
[05:37] <zetheroo> !ubutnu
[05:38] <zetheroo> !dvd
[05:38] <Flannel> Necrosan: alright, first thing is to disable backports.  And then (just to be sure) sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.  Is this a server machine? or a desktop machine?
[05:38] <Necrosan> Flannel: A bit of both
[05:38] <eseven73> Flannel: does that mean the ops here will start taking out factoids like '!codecs' and '!medibuntu' because of competition financially?
[05:38] <Necrosan> Just comment out each line in sources.list with backports in it to disable them, correct?
[05:38] <Flannel> eseven73: No.
[05:38] <eseven73> cool :)
[05:39] <Flannel> Necrosan: right.  And "desktop" -- Do you have ubuntu-desktop installed? (or xubuntu/kubuntu)
[05:39] <Necrosan> It should be installed, how do I check again?
[05:40] <Necrosan> Also, without this line apt cannot find binary-sparc folder
[05:40] <Necrosan> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main/debian-installer
[05:40] <Flannel> Necrosan: once you've updated/dist-upgraded, we'll worry about making sure proper packages are installed.    Umm... Well, that may very well be why it can't successfully upgrade.
[05:41] <opera_> what is grub
[05:41] <Flannel> Let me... do some research.
[05:41] <koshar1> zetheroo what specificly is the prob? try runningfrom command prompt and look for a message, are you using simple or menu mode?
[05:41] <Necrosan> Flannel: I don't see why it should be a problem, all needed packages are there.
[05:41] <Necrosan> And PPC guys can do it.
[05:41] <scunizi> !grub | opera_
[05:41] <christoz> Flannel, hmm ok , and how the procedure will be in order for someone to download his/her preffered codec? sudo apt-get install "codec-name"  " please enter your credit card number" ?
[05:42] <christoz> :P
[05:42] <powertoo108> Does anyone know how to kick a ghost nick? I didn't get a clean disconnect.
[05:42] <eseven73> haha christoz is it was only that easy
[05:42] <eseven73> if it*
[05:42] <scunizi> !ghost | powertoo108
[05:42] <Flannel> Necrosan: Hmm, alright.  SPARC is still supported, yeah.  Well, ok, don't worry abotu disabling backports yet.  We'll disable them when we mvoe to Hardy
[05:42] <error404notfound> I have install gsynaptic, and it asks me to add "SHMConfig" to true in xorg.conf or XFree86Config, thing is I don't have the latter and in the first there is no device section for mouse..
[05:42] <Necrosan> Flannel: Alright.
[05:42] <powertoo108> scunizi: thanks
[05:42] <zetheroo> koshar1: just doing what it says to do on the Ubuntu docs .. and its not working ...
[05:43] <Flannel> christoz: No, You purchase them through the canonical store: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=19&osCsid=44fd96cf0e66273cba78ee325bde6643
[05:43] <Flannel> Necrosan: So, uncomment the backports, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:43] <remu> Baz_, Thanks, Ubuntu-Tweaks solved my issues.
[05:44] <Necrosan> Flannel: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:45] <Flannel> Necrosan: then... we're going to make sure you have the proper metapackages.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-desktop, and... linux-sparc64?  I don't know what the proper metapackage for sparc is.  but something like that.
[05:45] <rxs> !ubuntu
[05:45] <rxs> !mplayer
[05:45] <Ryan_Delaney> !codecs
[05:45] <Necrosan> Flannel: Do all of the meta packages?
[05:45] <Ryan_Delaney> !fstab
[05:45] <Flannel> Necrosan: No, just those four.  -desktop -standard -minimal and your kernel
[05:45] <rach> koshar1: this is zetheroo on the machine that is giving problems with DVD playback ...
[05:46] <Necrosan> OK, that's what I meant. ;)
[05:46] <rxs> !gparted | rxs
[05:46] <rach> koshar1: http://pastebin.com/m32622f8a
[05:46] <Flannel> Necrosan: Once that's done, edit all the dappers and make them hardys, and comment out the backports (we'll assume you don't need hardy-backports, but you can enable them later if you do)
[05:47] <Grayvon> Can anyone tell me why wicd would not see my wireless adapter after I reinstalled it, when it was working just fine the first time?
[05:47] <Flannel> Necrosan: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:47] <Necrosan> OK, I can do this all over ssh safely, right?
[05:47] <Necrosan> it's not gonna kill sshd at all i presume?
[05:47] <jinja-sheep> !build-essential
[05:47] <scunizi> Grayvon, if you have more than one wifi manager installed they could be interfearing with each other.
[05:47] <rach> !dvd
[05:48] <Grayvon> how can i tell if i do?
[05:48] <Flannel> Necrosan: Um, you really shouldn't upgrade over ssh... I know the installer opens up another sshd on another port.  If you can, start this from a physical terminal.
[05:48] <Necrosan> ok, that's fine.
[05:48] <Necrosan> Flannel: This machine is SMP.
[05:48] <scunizi> Grayvon, the wifi manager that is the default install is network manager..
[05:48] <Baz_> anyone know anything about DMRAID?
[05:48] <Necrosan> I think I messed up doing linux-sparc64
[05:48] <Necrosan> Can I just modify silo to point to the SMP kernel?
[05:49] <Flannel> Necrosan: Just install the -smp kernel and remove the non-smp kernel
[05:49] <Grayvon> Wicd uninstalls the nm-applet automatically, but i think ndiswrapper might be messing with wicd
[05:50] <Necrosan> OK, I'll probably have to do that in synaptic. Hold on.
[05:51] <Joe_> the upgrade from hardy to intrepid did not seem to migrate all of the 169.12 nvidia driver symlinks to the new 96 driver... is there a way to fix this besides manually fixing every symlink?
[05:52] <Weez> is there a utility that i can run that will tell me what ip on my lan is grabbing all my bandwith?
[05:52] <rach> please help ... no DVD playback
[05:52] <Joe_> weez EtherApe is a util to monitor bandwidth usage
[05:52] <scunizi> Weez, wireshark maybe
[05:52] <DasE1> Weez:wireshark
[05:52] <Weez> thanks guys
[05:53] <MTecknology> Is atd necessary to be running for the normal operation of a desktop installation?
[05:53] <stroyan> Weez: ntop is another good option.
[05:53] <rach> anyone?
[05:53] <somethingclever> Can someone help me with Wine? im trying to install guild wars from CD or from download, and it loads to 100% then it hangs and doesnt do anything
[05:54] <Starnestommy> MTecknology: I think atd is used for scheduling tasks
[05:54] <Grayvon> is anyone else using a linksys wireless adapter wusb54g?
[05:54] <DasE1> rach:install vlc
[05:54] <jabagawee> all my shows are in the filename Show.s##e##.mkv (for season and episode number). someone wanna craft me up a "find -exec" statement that'll add a period between "s##" and "e##"?
[05:54] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: ya - I just don't know if the system has tasks setup to use it by default or not
[05:54] <rach> DasE1: already did that
[05:54] <Weez> thanks stroyan
[05:54] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: same question for cron
[05:54] <DasE1> rach: what happens (not) ?
[05:55] <jinja-sheep> !dvd | rach
[05:55] <rach> DasE1: no dvd playback
[05:55] <rach> jinja-sheep: already did all that
[05:55] <somethingclever> Grayvon, check PM
[05:55] <Vinceman> any kformula users here? I can't get the summation symbol to work :(
[05:55] <Starnestommy> MTecknology: cron is used for running repetitive tasks at a scheduled time, such as checking for package updates or rotating logs
[05:55] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: i know this
[05:55] <somethingclever> Can someone help me with Wine? im trying to install guild wars from CD or from download, and it loads to 100% then it hangs and doesnt do anything
[05:56] <shredder12> how can i configure firefox to connect to a proxy server somewhere if i m already using  a proxy server to gain access to internet..
[05:56] <DasE1> rach: you have a dvd in drive being alright, in vlc, open media ....> scd0 (or what tthe rom is) doesn't work ?
[05:56] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: is it used by a default installation or is it safe to turn off
[05:56] <Starnestommy> MTecknology: it is used by default
[05:56] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: both?
[05:56] <Xcerca> whats a good program for importing pictures from a camera and organizing ?
[05:56] <rach> DasE1: does nto work ... when i do it form the terminal I get errors pertaining to the decoding of the css
[05:56] <kalvin_> hello, anyone know if theres any software that will recognize my windows mobile 6 phone?
[05:56] <king> I need help getting my external mic to work on Dell 1525. There are no instructions on the web to get it to work with pulseaudio. The instructions at Dell wiki give a custom backport deb which is for Ubuntu 7.10 and that too uses ALSA. In addition, the package is incompatible with current kernel.
[05:56] <jabagawee> Xcerca, picasa or f-spot work great for me
[05:57] <Starnestommy> MTecknology: I'm not sure about atd.  It might be used for something
[05:57] <DasE1> rach: tried another dvd ?
[05:57] <Xcerca> kalvin_ what are you trying to do , i just plug mine in and i can transfer stuff back and forth to it ?
[05:57] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: what does cron get used by?
[05:57] <kalvin_> thats what i want to do
[05:57] <kalvin_> or even sync it
[05:58] <mosno> why isn't tracker indexing my evolution (imap) emails?
[05:58] <rach> DasE1: yes ... tried another one
[05:58] <Starnestommy> MTecknology: things that must be run on a regular basis, such as log rotation, checking for package updates, running ntp, and refreshing the search database for locate
[05:58] <ernz> How do you make a file executable in the terminal, anyone?
[05:58] <mosno> "enable evolution email indexing" is selected in tracker preferences... tracker says indexing is complete, but tracker stats shows 0 emails indexed :(
[05:58] <node357> ernz, chmod +x file
[05:59] <Ahadiel> ernz, chmod +x file
[05:59] <shredder12> any solution to this problem..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6537933#post6537933
[05:59] <DasE1> rach: tjat's strange as vlc bring it's own decoder... is the user allowed to access cdrom ?
[05:59] <node357> :)
[05:59] <lawnninja> Anybody know why I can't copy a fold from a fileshare on another machine even though I have used chmod to modify a directories permission to copy the folder into it?
[05:59] <ernz> lol, nerds. Thanks.
[05:59] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: please read my question...
[05:59] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: I'm asking about what uses these services on a default installation
[05:59] <rach> DasE1: this is a fresh install of Ubuntu Hardy so I don't see why not
[05:59] <eseven73> ernz: geeks, not nerds, big difference ;)
[06:00] <Starnestommy> MTecknology: everything listed in /etc/cron.*
[06:00] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: I'm not a noob - I know what at and cronn are for - I need to figure out if the system uses them on a default installation
[06:01] <DasE1> rach: no hints in /var/log/syslog about rom-dive ?
[06:01] <ernz> eseven73: "Nerds" was originally "knurd's" - "Drunks" backwards. Derived from a notable segregation of intellectuals and jocks - came out of a fraternity dispute in the states.
[06:01] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: alrighty - thanks
[06:01] <Necrosan> I got a lot of 404s after apt-get update, Flannel
[06:01] <MTecknology> Starnestommy: looks like I can kill atd and leave cron :)
[06:02] <kalvin_> when i plug my wm6 to my computer, where would is it mounted, if it is?
[06:02] <Flannel> Necrosan: Its likely that your mirror doesn't carry the Hardy SPARC stuff.  Try using another one.  archive.ubuntu.com
[06:02] <Necrosan> OK
[06:02] <somethingclever> can anyone please help me get guild wars working under wine?
[06:02] <DasE1> kalvin_: mount tells you
[06:03] <DasE1> !wine > somethingclever
[06:04] <somethingclever> DasE1, wine works the the appdb and i have more than the reccomended req, it just hangs at load screen
[06:05] <somethingclever> DasE1, at 100 percent
[06:05] <DasE1>  somethingclever: /j #winehq        , ask  there and check hp for supported apps
[06:05] <somethingclever> thanks
[06:08] <Necrosan> Flannel: archive.ubuntu.com doesnt have hardy sparc stuff either
[06:10] <hellhound> i just completed a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10 after replacing my motherboard, processor, ram, and harddrive and I noticed an issue with my mouse.  it seems that after awhile my Logitech G5 mouse will stop responding... i looked in xorg and could not even find a mouse or keyboard section but the mouse will work for a while but not all the buttons work can anyone help?
[06:10] <Necrosan> mirror.ne.gov has it it seems
[06:10] <rach> still no dvd playback in Ubuntu Hardy ... please help
[06:11] <Dr_future> hello, I installed irssi but I couldn't find it in applications, any help please?
[06:12] <jinja-sheep> Dr_future:  It's terminal irc.  Run irssi in the terminal.
[06:12] <Titan8990> Dr_future, im pretty sure irssi is a CLI irc program
[06:12] <christoz> Dr_future, just type on shell, irssi
[06:12] <Dr_future> hmm, yeah, I'm new to Ubuntu
[06:12] <Darknezz> ZuckusFIll and jeeves_Moss: i think everyone is having this problem at the moment.....
[06:13] <Titan8990> Dr_future, if you are looking for a GUI irc client for ubuntu, xchat and chatzilla are good
[06:13] <Dr_future> Titan8990, But how could I update those programmes?
[06:13] <DarkKnight> i enabled desktop effects and other effects through compiz fusion..andmy system has become very slow....how can i retain these effects and still make my system faster
[06:13] <Dr_future> Titan8990,  they have the latest versions in WIndows
[06:13] <Titan8990> Dr_future, typically, you just wait
[06:14] <Titan8990> Dr_future, unless a new version has a fix or feature that you must have
[06:14] <koshar1> DarkKnight faster hardware
[06:14] <Titan8990> Dr_future, then you can compile the source for the program
[06:14] <calebh2> Darknight: download the settings manager for compiz
[06:14] <DarkKnight> koshar; i meant any settings to be changed
[06:14] <Titan8990> Dr_future, it is doubtful you will ever need to however
[06:14] <Necrosan> Flannel: After editing sources to hardy and sudo apt-get update then what?
[06:14] <Necrosan> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:14] <koshar1> DarkKnight see calebh2s post
[06:14] <DarkKnight> koshar1; i meant any settings to be changed
[06:15] <Necrosan> crap, spoke too soon
[06:15] <Necrosan> Failed to fetch http://mirror.ne.gov/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/main/binary-sparc/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[06:15] <Dr_future> Titan8990, for instance, I want to update firefox to the latest version, and ubunto 8.04 comes with version 3, but I want to update it to the latest version 3.05 how could I do that?
[06:15] <DarkKnight> calebh2; yes i have it in preferences--->advanced desktop effects
[06:15] <Titan8990> Dr_future, What is the purpose of the update?
[06:15] <Flannel> Necrosan: update then dist-upgrade, yeah.
[06:16] <Dr_future> Titan8990,  to fix many things
[06:16] <Titan8990> Dr_future, what problems are you having?
[06:17] <Dr_future> Titan8990, sorry, but that's illogical, I wouldn't notice those security holes for instance, it's not my job, I have to update it to the latest version that's all
[06:17] <DarkKnight> calebh2; what am i supposed to do now
[06:17] <koshar1> Dr_future the versions in the repos are generally the latest stable builds however if you hare not running the latest distro you can use backports, personal builds  or compile from source
[06:17] <calebh2> DarkKnight: mess around with the settings. I have run compiz on an old intel intigrated grapics card before
[06:17] <Titan8990> Dr_future, download the firefox package from the mozilla website here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0.5&os=linux&lang=en-US
[06:18] <Dougdoug4> Big server
[06:18] <rxs> Dr_future: I run ubuntu 8.04 and I have firefox 3.0.5 installed .. and its the latest version in the repos I believe
[06:18] <rach> ubuntu is not playing dvd's
[06:18] <rach> please help
[06:18] <Titan8990> Dr_future, the repos will always be behind main versions for two major reasons A) manpower B) ubuntu devs add patchs to software thus taking longer
[06:18] <koshar1> Dr_future by the way the latest version in the repos is 3.0.5 for firefox
[06:18] <rach> I have vlc and did all the command to get libdvd
[06:18] <rach> still nothing
[06:19] <DarkKnight> calebh2; i wanted to have all those desktop effects...but its making my system slower
[06:19] <Titan8990> Dr_future, it is rare I come across a case in which I need to dl and compile for a new version
[06:19] <rxs> rach: what dommds did u do ?
[06:19] <Dr_future> hmm, well, when I searched for Firefox in synaptics I found green boxes, does that mean I have the latest version?
[06:19] <Dr_future> or that version?
[06:19] <rxs> rach: commands
[06:19] <Titan8990> Dr_future, that means it is installed, to ensure it is the newest version check the update manager
[06:19] <rach> rxs: what it says here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[06:19] <koshar1> Dr_future have you done a refresh of the repos?
[06:19] <Dr_future> yes
[06:19] <rach> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[06:20] <howls> hello everyone.  I am having problems with permissions.  My user belongs to the group www-data, but I can't write to or modify anything in the /var/www folder.  I get the error permission denied.  Any ideas what the problem may be?
[06:20] <rach>  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[06:20] <rxs> rach: okay when u try to apt-get  libdvdread3  .. what happens ?
[06:20] <daedra> howls: ls -la the folder and check that you have permission to write  to it in /etc/groups
[06:20] <rach> rxs: no errors ...
[06:20] <Titan8990> howls, you may need to change the group permissions for the folder
[06:21] <DarkKnight> calebh2; i tried to change again back...but still my system has become very slow
[06:21] <Titan8990> howls, try: chmod -R g+xrw /var/www
[06:21] <rxs> rach:okay ... what happens when u try to play the vdv ?
[06:21] <Titan8990> howls, with a sudo, sorry
[06:21] <Necrosan> Flannel: can I comment security lines out?
[06:21] <Necrosan> having some problems locating what im looking for :)
[06:22] <rxs> rach: does it install  libdvdread3   ?
[06:22] <howls> Thanks for the responses, checking
[06:22] <Dr_future> Titan8990,  When I did that, a message said that there is no update for this version, but when I checked its version from "ABOUT" it says 3 not 3.05
[06:22] <rach> rxs: nothing... does not play ... and when I play it through the terminal in VLC it gives the folloowing: http://pastebin.com/m32622f8a
[06:22] <jinja-sheep> Dr_future:  Run this in the command.  sudo aptitude update
[06:22] <jinja-sheep> Then check the icon on the panel.  You may get updates (if you haven't done that already).
[06:23] <rxs> rach: can you try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras ? : apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:23] <Kelen> What's happened to me with this dmesg detail?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/103783/
[06:23] <Dr_future> jinja-sheep, what is "aptitude"?
[06:23] <rxs> rach: what dvd are you trying to play ?
[06:23] <rach> rxs: already installed
[06:23] <jinja-sheep> Similar to apt-get.
[06:23] <jinja-sheep> Dr_future:  See ^
[06:23] <rach> rxs: a dvd that plays on all other 3 Ubuntu hardy machines
[06:23] <Dr_future> jinja-sheep, I'm new to ubuntu
[06:23] <Kelen> What's happened to me with this dmesg detail? it's could not be read when i put on usb driver   http://paste.ubuntu.com/103783/
[06:23] <rxs> !aptitude |Dr_future
[06:24] <Necrosan> OK, got it to work. it's dist-upgrading now
[06:24] <Titan8990> Dr_future, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[06:24] <Titan8990> Dr_future, that is where you copy and paste or type the given command
[06:24] <howls> Titan8990: tried it, it didn't work
[06:25] <Dr_future> ok Titan8990
[06:25] <Titan8990> howls, what formate is your drive?
[06:25] <Titan8990> howls, err format
[06:25] <howls> Titan8990: ext3
[06:25] <rxs> rach: so the dvd-css is installed and still vlc complain .. can ypui try playing on totem or mplayer ?
[06:26] <Dr_future> Titan8990,  these messages appeared
[06:26] <rxs> rach: please try xine too .. just want to check if its a vlc only issue ..
[06:26] <Dr_future> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:26] <Dr_future> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:26] <Dr_future> E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
[06:26] <FloodBot1> Dr_future: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:26] <rach> rxs: movie player also does not work
[06:26] <Necrosan> Flannel: What's the next step after dist-upgrade?
[06:26] <rxs> Dr_future: do you have synaptic open ?
[06:26] <Flannel> Necrosan: Reboot
[06:26] <Dr_future> ok flokuehn
[06:26] <Titan8990> Dr_future, try again: sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <jinja-sheep> howls:  What's the directory?  Can you ls -al and give me the line for the said directory?
[06:26] <Necrosan> OK
[06:26] <Titan8990> Dr_future, you missed the sudo, or he did not tell you to....
[06:27] <Necrosan> Think I'll run into problems during dist-upgradE?
[06:27] <Dr_future> rxs,  I'm downloading something
[06:27] <Dr_future> rxs,  the latest version of firefox
[06:27] <rxs> Dr_future: in synaptic package manager ? , you cannot use apt-get and synaptic at the same time
[06:27] <Dr_future> no
[06:27] <howls> jinja-sheep: drwxrwxr-x 17 www-data www-data 4096 2009-01-11 21:28 joomla
[06:27] <Kelen> Is there any idea for this problem when i put on usb driver but it's couldn't be found, then i checked dmesg its showed this for me. anyone could help me? plz? http://paste.ubuntu.com/103783/
[06:28] <jinja-sheep> Dr_future:  The lock error you experienced is the result of another software using administration.  You only can let one software use admin at a time.
[06:28] <Dr_future> Titan8990 gave me the link for downloading ff and I'm downloading it fromt here
[06:28] <amina> When I scp from a computer to another, I get 20KB/s max.; is it abnormal or is scp always slow?
[06:28] <rach> rxs: I am so out of options ...
[06:28] <jinja-sheep> howls:  One more thing.  what's your user name?
[06:29] <rxs> rach: xine ? mplayer ? is the machine connected to teh net ? is it a new dvd ?
[06:29] <Titan8990> Dr_future, got disconnected
[06:30] <rach> rxs: here is the most recent output of VLC http://pastebin.com/m4c138a66
[06:30] <Dr_future> by the way, do I have to install a firewall on ubuntu?
[06:30] <Dr_future> windows is much easier really
[06:30] <Dr_future> but Linux is very interesting
[06:30] <Dr_future> welcome bakc Titan8990
[06:30] <jinja-sheep> !firewall | Dr_future
[06:30] <Dr_future> back
[06:31] <jinja-sheep> Meh.
[06:31] <amina> Or maybe I could do it through http - is there a simple,stupid way to setup a ftp/http (whatever the easiest) fileserver with ubuntu?
[06:31] <Titan8990> Dr_future, yes, ubuntu has a firewall but it is not nescessary
[06:31] <jinja-sheep> Dr_future:  I'll find you a link.
[06:31] <Dr_future> ok jinja-sheep
[06:31] <rach> rxs: this DVD plays perfectly on the other 3 Ubuntu Hardy machines here ...
[06:31] <Titan8990> Dr_future, in windows you have network services installed by default
[06:31] <Titan8990> Dr_future, and you have to concern youself with malware "getting out"
[06:31] <Titan8990> Dr_future, this is not the case in linux
[06:31] <jinja-sheep> Dr_future:  Brush up on your reading skills.  It is an overview of all security practices in Linux -- http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[06:31] <Dr_future> that's really interesting, but no viruses in Linux?
[06:31] <rxs> rach: yes looks like a new dvd and the css keys are not there .. it needs to get them ... okay .. try this .. in ur home dir ... ~/..dvdcss/   .. u will see the keys ... try copying them from teh machines in which the dvd wirks
[06:32] <jinja-sheep> And no, you don't really need Firewall. :)
[06:32] <Titan8990> Dr_future, they exist but there are not "in the wild" only from direct attacks
[06:32] <amina> Or maybe I'm on the wrong channel...where should I go for ssh/scp help?
[06:32] <Titan8990> Dr_future, but the sudo feature of Ubuntu more or less protects you even from those existing viruses
[06:33] <Titan8990> amina, missed your question, sorry
[06:33] <rxs> rach: check in ~/.dvdcss
[06:33] <jinja-sheep> rach:  Do you have DVD reader?  Or is it very old machine you're trying to use?
[06:33] <Dr_future> Titan8990, I see, I have to learn more about this interesting OS :)
[06:33] <rach> rxs: ok... but that will only make this one dvd work right? ...
[06:33] <rach> jinja-sheep: brand new Thinkpad
[06:33] <alo9999> i am looking for a video converter for htc g1 format
[06:33] <Titan8990> Dr_future, also, if you ever get into managing servers, you will find that windows is not easier
[06:34] <Dr_future> Titan8990, Anyway I have downloaded firefox the extension is tar.bz2, how to react with it?
[06:34] <DarkKnight> i enabled many desktop effects and they are making it slower...can anyone tell me which effects make it slower....i tryied enabling and disabling...but i m not able to find out
[06:34] <rxs> that will make this dvd work for sure ... I am not sure about the others ... but if the machine can connect to teh net and fetch keys .. then others too shld
[06:34] <jinja-sheep> Dr_future:  How do you react with it in the past?
[06:34] <Titan8990> Dr_future, did you already uninstall the existing version of firefox from synaptic?
[06:34] <Dr_future> Titan8990, no
[06:34] <Dr_future> Do I have to?
[06:34] <rxs> rach: do you see any keys that have the name of the dvd  title ?
[06:35] <jinja-sheep> You drag and drop in the add-on window.   Or I do this... Add the plugins through the "Firefox Addons"
[06:35] <rach> rxs: yes
[06:35] <Titan8990> Dr_future, yes, and this version will need to be uninstalled manually
[06:35] <amina> Titan8990, I'm downloading stuff from a computer to another (I'm on a third machine, sshing into one of the others) using scp and I can't go faster than 20KB/s, which is really slow.
[06:35] <Titan8990> Dr_future, compiling from source really defeats the purpose of using a distro like ubuntu
[06:35] <rxs> rach: try copying that and see if it plays
[06:35] <Titan8990> Dr_future, but I will still show you how if you want
[06:35] <Dr_future> Titan8990,  you mean, that tar.bz2 is a source code?
[06:35] <rach> rxs: nope .. still no joy
[06:35] <Titan8990> Titan8990, scp is not a speed oriented protocol
[06:35] <Titan8990> lol
[06:36] <Titan8990> amina, scp is not a speed oriented protocol
[06:36] <jinja-sheep> Titan8990:  He was talking about Firefox addons, I believe.
[06:36] <Titan8990> Dr_future, yes, it is
[06:36] <simplenewb> I need a little help with iptables. Right now I'm using iptables to reject with error packet any attempt to connect to port 22 if I want to allow only my computer do I use -A to append the rule using my ip and ACCEPT or do I need to delete the REJECT rule, etc.....
[06:36] <Dr_future> Titan8990,  yeah I want to experience this , for learning purpose at least :)
[06:36] <Titan8990> jinja-sheep, no, he wanted a version of FF that wasn't in synaptic
[06:36] <Dr_future> SO, how could I uninstall ff first? Titan8990 ?
[06:36] <rach> why is dvdcss not working ... arrrgh
[06:36] <jinja-sheep> Dr_future:  Stick to the repos.
[06:37] <Dr_future> jinja-sheep,  I just want to do this for fun :)
[06:37] <Dr_future> I want to learn the way though
[06:37] <Titan8990> Dr_future, if you would like to learn to compile from source only for the learning experience, I recommend doing it on an app that you don't use
[06:37] <Dr_future> of how I could install from a source code
[06:37] <jinja-sheep> rach:  New thinkpad -- don't mean a thing.  Do you know if it can read DVDs in first place?
[06:37] <Dr_future> Titan8990, Could you recommend something?
[06:37] <jinja-sheep> Titan8990:  I got a idea.
[06:37] <rach> jinja-sheep: of course it can -- what a question ...
[06:37] <howls> jinja-sheep: sorry about the late response, what would my user name is howls
[06:37] <zenlunatic> how can I get the network monitor thing back in gnome panel?
[06:38] <jinja-sheep> Dr_future:  Have fun RTFM this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware :)
[06:38] <persei> what is the command line to remove all newly downloaded packages from the apt cache please ?
[06:38] <Titan8990> Dr_future, I have a perfect app to teach compilation with :)
[06:38] <Dr_future> ok jinja-sheep
[06:38] <Dr_future> yes Titan8990 ?
[06:38] <rxs> rach: can you please check teh region setting related issue in the page u have been following and see if thats an issue ?
[06:38] <amina> Titan8990, ok (but still weird, even a small fraction of the available bandwith would still be way more than this). What should I use (I don't care about encryption)
[06:38] <ernz> Could someone do me a favour please? Looking at the Synaptic Package Manager, what are the steps to add a repository?
[06:38] <Titan8990> amina, for speed, I would use WebDAV or ftp
[06:39] <rach> rxs: the region is set to NONE .. just like on the other machines
[06:39] <Titan8990> amina, of NFS if they are both linux clients
[06:39] <jinja-sheep> howls:  Look into chown.  It probably is what you're looking for.
[06:39] <Digital7> "FATAL: Module binfmt_misc not found." occurs on 8.10 during boot, rendering startup impossible. has anyone ever encountered this?
[06:39] <Titan8990> Dr_future, i am grabbing a link
[06:39] <Dr_future> Great
[06:39] <simplenewb> emz: you want to add a restricted repo or a whole new one? One you can do from synaptic the other requires editing sources.list
[06:40] <rxs> rach: I am confused.. if the machine has tried to fetch the keys ... and if it was successfully get them ...
[06:40] <amina> Titan 8990, I don't know much about WebDAV, but actually ftp seems like a decent choice. Thanks!
[06:40] <Titan8990> Dr_future, http://www.openwall.com/john/
[06:40] <rach> rxs: yeah .. tell me about it ... confused is the word ...
[06:40] <rach> rxs: maybe I should reinstall Ubuntu from scratch again ...
[06:40] <Titan8990> Dr_future, download the stable version <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:41] <Dr_future> password cracker?
[06:41] <Dr_future> what's that Titan8990 ?
[06:41] <ernz> simplenewb: "deb http://debian.o-hand.com hardy/" <- Non restricted. I am putting together a how to and I need to know the steps - synaptic is being stupid atm not letting me in until I restart and I cant do that because I'm half way through the how to
[06:41] <persei> please does someone know the command line to remove all newly downloaded packages from the apt cache ? thanks
[06:41] <Titan8990> Dr_future, it cracks pasword hashes
[06:41] <rxs> rach: no ... thats too much .. there should be an easier way .. can ypu please try mplayer ?
[06:41] <Titan8990> Dr_future, its what we learned source compiling on in school
[06:41] <rach> ok
[06:41] <Dr_future> Ok
[06:42] <jinja-sheep> persei:  Look in the manual.
[06:42] <uramagget> I think my Ubuntu OS is completely gone... OS Select does not display it, yet it says that Ubuntu is installed (I installed it with the Wubi Partitioner). This happened after I had to abruptly press the button to reboot forcefully after GNOME stopped responding.
[06:42] <persei> jinja-sheep: thank you for this helping answer.
[06:42] <howls> jinja-sheep: I've tried using chown, it doesn't seem to help
[06:43] <Dr_future> Titan8990, tar.gz. or tar.bz2?
[06:43] <Titan8990> Dr_future, either is fine
[06:43] <jinja-sheep> persei:  Seriously.  Look in sudo apt-get --help
[06:43] <Titan8990> Dr_future, tar.gz is faster compessing/decompressing but bz2 is more compressed
[06:43] <jinja-sheep> howls:  What command did you use?
[06:43] <xorand> Today, my ubuntu 8.04 decides to play my music through my earphones as well as my internal pc speakers :( :(.  How to I channel the sound through the earphones only?
[06:43] <Titan8990> Dr_future, smaller size I mean
[06:44] <Dr_future> Ah
[06:44] <howls> jinja-sheep: sudo chown www-data:www-data filename
[06:44] <Dr_future> ok Titan8990  I have downloaded that tar.gz
[06:45] <Dr_future> what shall I do now?
[06:45] <Dr_future> extracting it?
[06:45] <Titan8990> Dr_future, open the terminal
[06:45] <Dr_future> ok
[06:45] <jinja-sheep> howls:  You want this... sudo chown howls:howls <the directory path>
[06:45] <Titan8990> Dr_future, what directory did you download it to?
[06:45] <Dr_future> done
[06:45] <uramagget> no ideas? :{
[06:45] <Titan8990> desktop?
[06:45] <Dr_future> on the desktop
[06:45] <Dr_future> yeah
[06:46] <Titan8990> Dr_future, type: cd /Desktop
[06:46] <Guest96847>  i have a dual boot with kubuntu and xp. Afte upgrade i am unable to log in my xp partition though files etc. are visisble.
[06:46] <Titan8990> Dr_future then: did you get tar.gz or bz2?
[06:46] <Titan8990> Dr_future, sorry gave you wrong command a second ago
[06:47] <Titan8990> Dr_future, should be: cd Desktop/
[06:47] <Dr_future> ah
[06:47] <howls> jinja-sheep: okay, thanks for the help
[06:47] <Dr_future> yeah, now it's fine
[06:47] <jinja-sheep> howls:  Did it work? :3
[06:47] <Guest96847> any one to help me with how to bring back the dual boot of xp. My grub menu list contains xp.
[06:48] <Dr_future> Titan8990, it's .gz
[06:48] <Dr_future> tar.gz
[06:48] <jinja-sheep> !grub | Guest96847
[06:48] <sleepy_cat> hi how to access the icons in the menu bar from the terminal
[06:48] <Titan8990> Dr_future, alright do this: tar xvf john      ---- then press tab to autocomplete the name of the file
[06:48] <uramagget> ubottu, thanks
[06:48] <uramagget> :}
[06:49] <howls> jinja-sheep: I used it on an img directory, but I want to keep everything else www-data because of my joomla install
[06:49] <Titan8990> Dr_future, that is how to extract from the command line
[06:49] <Dr_future> Titan8990,  Could you please tell me, what both tar and xvf mean?
[06:49] <howls> jinja-sheep: it did work on the img directory btw.
[06:49] <Dr_future> tar xvf=extract?
[06:49] <Titan8990> Dr_future, tar is the archive tool used to extract
[06:49] <jinja-sheep> howls:  I suppose you should do this... gksudo nautilus -- It'll open the directory in root.  I'm sure you can place files in there under root admin.
[06:50] <Titan8990> Dr_future, x = extract
[06:50] <Dr_future> Ah
[06:50] <Dr_future> Ah
[06:50] <Titan8990> Dr_future, v = ( in nearly every command) verbose mode
[06:50] <Titan8990> Dr_future, and f = uncompress the .gz format
[06:50] <sleepy_cat> where are all the icons in the menu bar in the home dir.
[06:50] <click170> If anyone wants to try a faster slimmer FireFox, check this out   http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/programs/other/FirePup.tar.gz
[06:50] <jinja-sheep> !theme | sleepy_cat
[06:50] <sleepy_cat> so tht they can be accessed from the home directory
[06:50] <howls> jinja-sheep: yeah, I've been transferring files by root, then using chown, I just thought there might be an easier way
[06:50] <Dr_future> Titan8990,  yeah, I did that and I clicked enter
[06:50] <billy_maze> hello
[06:51] <sleepy_cat> I dont want the theme
[06:51] <jinja-sheep> sleepy_cat:  Check under ~/.icons
[06:51] <billy_maze> does anyone know how I can check which partition windows is on, after installing ubuntu
[06:51] <billy_maze> ?
[06:51] <Titan8990> Dr_future, alright, type: cd john-<IP_ADDRESS>/src
[06:51] <howls> jinja-sheep: it doesn't make sense to me why it wouldn't allow my regular user to create or alter files even though I belong to the group
[06:51] <Dr_future> src=source code?
[06:51] <billy_maze> I tried checking /dev/sda2 but I had no luck
[06:52] <Titan8990> Dr_future, yes and it is commonly used
[06:52] <Dr_future> yeah, done
[06:52] <Digital7> after removing/adding drivers with ubuntu's proprietery driver mangaer, "FATAL: Module binfmt_misc not found." occurs on 8.10 during boot and renders startup impossible. any takers?
[06:52] <sleepy_cat> let me explain.. you can see the terminal icon above.. (if u have it then) this icon is a shortcut to the terminal.. where is the main terminal file located in the file system
[06:52] <jinja-sheep> howls:  You're in group howls, but not in group www-var.
[06:52] <Titan8990> Dr_future, type: make
[06:52] <sleepy_cat> so u dont need to on it from here.. i can do it directly
[06:52] <Titan8990> Dr_future, you will be presented with a list of pc architectures that john can be compiled on
[06:52] <Dr_future> yeah
[06:52] <Titan8990> Dr_future, are you using 32bit of 64bit ubuntu?
[06:52] <Dr_future> 32
[06:53] <jinja-sheep> gnome-terminal ?
[06:53] <jinja-sheep> sleepy_cat:  See ^
[06:53] <sleepy_cat> yes
[06:53] <sleepy_cat> gnome-terminal
[06:53] <Titan8990> Dr_future, type the following: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[06:53] <sleepy_cat> where is it in the file system
[06:53] <howls> jinja-sheep: so would changing my primary group help?
[06:53] <billy_maze> Does anyone here know how I can view my windows partition in ubuntu?
[06:53] <jinja-sheep> sleepy_cat:  Look for the script?  Use which.  "which gnome-terminal"  It'll show you the path.
[06:53] <billy_maze> from the command line
[06:53] <sleepy_cat> ?
[06:53] <billy_maze> ?
[06:54] <jinja-sheep> howls:  Perhaps, add yourself to the existing group (www-var).
[06:54] <Titan8990> Dr_future, that package contains everything needed for compiling from source
[06:54] <Dr_future> Titan8990,  Couldn't find package build essentials
[06:54] <jinja-sheep> howls:  I found this -- I can't confirm it -- but it seems promising -- http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[06:54] <Guest10204> im trying to run a ragnarok online client under wine and it is not attempting to connect to a network any suggestions?
[06:55] <Titan8990> !build-essentials
[06:55] <rach> rxs: back
[06:55] <rach> rxs: still nothing
[06:55] <jinja-sheep> howls:  Will find you a better example, I think.
[06:55] <billy_maze_> hello?
[06:55] <Titan8990> Dr_future, sorry, no "s"
[06:55] <Titan8990> Dr_future, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:55] <Joe_> I upgraded from hardy to intrepid, on hardy was using nvidia 169.12 drivers (manually installed), intrepid I hae to use 96.43.09, the upgrade DID NOT work properly in that all the symlinks (like libglx.so) still went to the old nvidia 169.12 drivers.  I attempted to manualyl move every symlink to the correct version but now it X just fails to start (starts then crashes, dmesg says a segfault)... how do I fix this?
[06:56] <Dr_future> yeah Titan8990
[06:56] <howls> jinja-sheep: thanks for the help.  There isn't a group www-var on Hardy
[06:56] <Dr_future> Titan8990, what's that I'm downloading right now?
[06:56] <Titan8990> Dr_future, when it is finished, you can compile john with: make system linux-x86-sse2
[06:56] <Dr_future> a compiler?
[06:57] <persei> and is there a command line to apt-x to know which package a specific file installed belong to ?
[06:57] <jinja-sheep> howls:  You can do it via GUI?  System --> Admin --> Users + Group :)
[06:57] <simplenewb> is there a package that will keep similar/exact same commands from being save in my .bash_history file? I find it very useful to have my previous commands stored there but if I'm testing something i often end up with 20 duplicate entries in a row.
[06:57] <Titan8990> Dr_future, a compiler along with some other needed programs that help automate the compilation proccess
[06:57] <Dr_future> Ah
[06:58] <Titan8990> Dr_future, source usually comes with a "make" file that does all the compiling work for you
[06:58] <billy_maze_> hello?
[06:58] <Dr_future> Ah
[06:58] <Titan8990> Dr_future, like we see in jonn
[06:58] <Titan8990> Dr_future, err john
[06:59] <ebrink> Hi billy
[06:59] <billy_maze_> hi ebrink
[06:59] <Dr_future> Check your private please Titan8990
[06:59] <Trenter> Why is everyones country Internic Network?
[06:59] <howls> jinja-sheep: this is getting weird.  The GUI doesn't show www-var or www-data
[06:59] <billy_maze_> hi Trenter, do you know how to figure out which partition windows in on a dual boot?
[06:59] <Titan8990> Dr_future, I don't see a private
[07:00] <Trenter> Yes I might be able to help with that, I recently setup my ubuntu with windows dual boot myself
[07:00] <howls> jinja-sheep: but if I do 'groups howls' it shows me as part of www-data (which is the group that all the major www direcories are assigned)
[07:00] <billy_maze_> Trenter:  I'm trying to figure out, if my window partition is in /dev/sda1 or not
[07:00] <billy_maze_> Trenter:  I'm trying to figure out, if my window partition is in /dev/sda1 or if it's somewhere else
[07:01] <jinja-sheep> howls:  If you're part of the group, then you should be able to move files into the said directory.
[07:02] <_2> where is the setting that will stop icons from appearing on the desktop ?
[07:02] <liye> Hi guys, I just installed 8.10 by DVD but it has a initramfs + busybox problem on booting. Is there a quick solution to this? It's on thinkpad T400
[07:02] <jinja-sheep> !gparted | billy_maze
[07:02] <Trenter> billy_maze_ How did you install ubuntu, through windows or on its own partition
[07:02] <jinja-sheep> billy_maze:  It'll help you see things from graphical perspective.
[07:03] <liye> Hi guys, I just installed 8.10 by DVD but it has a initramfs + busybox problem on booting. Is there a quick solution to this? It's on thinkpad T400
[07:03] <_2> !grub > liye
[07:03] <howls> jinja-sheep: that's what I thought, but for some reason I can't ...
[07:03] <poningru> liye, what does it say right before that error?
[07:03] <poningru> and ignore the advise regarding grub
[07:03] <poningru> its probably not a grub error
[07:03] <jinja-sheep> howls:  What's the link?  What did you install?
[07:04] <_2> poningru wana bet
[07:04] <Kuwanger> I'd like to organize a collection of files and other data together.  Basically, I'm looking for something that's a cross between tagging, a relationship database, and using files for a lot of the underlying data.  Any ideas on something that can do this?
[07:04] <poningru> liye, the exact error must say something like: ".... something happened... dropping you to a shell"
[07:04] <liye> poningru: i entered exit after (initramfs), now it's booting
[07:04] <jinja-sheep> howls: http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Managing_Ubuntu_Linux_Users_and_Groups#Adding_a_User_to_an_Ubuntu_Linux_System
[07:04] <poningru> liye, what is the exact error
[07:04] <jinja-sheep> howls:  Look under Modifying an Ubuntu Linux Group.
[07:04] <Necrosan> Flannel: Didn't work. Bombed out.
[07:04] <poningru> liye, yeah it can be multiple things like the root isnt detected in time etc.
[07:05] <liye> poningru: i'll reboot and sow, a minute please
[07:05] <Necrosan> I have two hard disks in the machine.. any way I could write the 8.10 alt install cd image to the second hard disk?
[07:05] <poningru> by the boot partition
[07:05] <Necrosan> And install from there?
[07:05] <andresmh> how can I check what video card I have from the command line?
[07:05] <Flannel> Necrosan: yes, let me get you a link
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Guest96847: Hello
[07:05] <poningru> andresmh, do lspci
[07:05] <_2> andresmh lspci      lshw
[07:05] <Flannel> Necrosan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[07:06] <Baz_> anyone know if there are monitoring tools for ubuntu software raid? like a warning that a drive is damaged
[07:06] <_2> andresmh lspci | grep -i vga    or    lshw -C display
[07:06] <poningru> Baz_, yes mdadm has multiple ones
[07:06] <howls> jinja-sheep: I'll look into it
[07:06] <_2> where is the setting that will stop icons from appearing on the desktop ?
[07:07] <poningru> _2, its a gconf setting
[07:07] <andresmh> thanks _2
[07:07] <liye> poningru: ot says, Gave up waiting for root device, /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx does not exist
[07:07] <Baz_> poningru: are they gui and automatic - as in i dont have to keep checking myself, it just tels me?
[07:07] <_2> poningru so i've been told.  where is it ?
[07:07] <poningru> do a gconf-editor orr something in a terminal
[07:07] <Necrosan> hmm. Will be a bit different because of silo.
[07:07] <jinja-sheep> _2:  I spent my sweet minutes googling for you -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249489
[07:08] <poningru> liye, are you using something weird like doing scsi or something like that for your hard disk?
[07:08] <_2> poningru i've been all through gconf-editor  and havent seen anything that will stop them
[07:08] <_2> jinja-sheep ok. looking
[07:08] <liye> poningru, I'm not sure, it's a laptop, thinkpad T400
[07:09] <poningru> oh hmm...
[07:09] <liye> poningru, 8.04 and Arch boots up correctly
[07:09] <persei> I have a file /usr/local/ant/bin/antRun and I would like to know which package this file belongs too. I 've tried apt-cache search antRun but it doesn't work. Is there another way to get the answer ?
[07:09] <_2> jinja-sheep trying now,  thanks.
[07:09] <CaptainMorgan> poningru, nothing weird about scsi :) perfectly normal
[07:10] <somethingclever> hey, all my video including flash are having a strobe effect, is there a way to fix this?
[07:10] <jinja-sheep> _2:  Welcome.
[07:10] <Necrosan> Flannel: No hd-media folder
[07:10] <poningru> liye, yeah I dont know why some reason root is taking too long to get detected
[07:10] <poningru> I dont know what to tell ya
[07:11] <poningru> CaptainMorgan, happened to me with a server
[07:11] <poningru> never got around to looking into this same error
[07:11] <poningru> since it never gets rebooted and everything is working fine
[07:11] <CaptainMorgan> liye, just got here.. what's the issue you're having?
[07:11] <poningru> I just never looked into it
[07:11] <poningru> I am going to sleep
[07:11] <poningru> nn guys
[07:11] <liye> CaptainMorgan, initiramfs + busybox issue
[07:12] <somethingclever> how do i fix my video?
[07:12] <liye> it says /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxx does not exist
[07:12] <Necrosan> Flannel: http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/intrepid/main/installer-sparc/current/images/cdrom/
[07:12] <Necrosan> will that work for vmlinuz / initrd?
[07:12] <poningru> liye, give him the exact wording of the error
[07:12] <poningru> ok going to sleep
[07:12] <_2> CaptainMorgan the timeout for his scsi module may be too long/short.  one could test a sleep command in the initramfs scripts  premount maybe
[07:13] <Flannel> Necrosan: ah yes, ports. Yeah, that's the one.
[07:13] <_2> just a thought
[07:13] <poningru> its not scsi
[07:13] <poningru> its sata
[07:13] <poningru> I thought it was scsi he said it was a laptop
[07:13] <Necrosan> Flannel: You sure that will work? The guide you linked is pointing me to hd-media..
[07:13] <poningru> doubt a 2008 laptop has scsi hdd
[07:13] <_2> hmmm ok.
[07:13] <liye> CaptainMorgan, yup, it is SATA HD, i think
[07:13] <poningru> no clue why though
[07:13] <_2> still a sleep 4 might fix it.
[07:13] <Necrosan> I have a feeling once I reboot to the installer there will be no turning back ;)
[07:13] <poningru> anyway going to bed
[07:14] <somethingclever> someone please help me fix my video problem, its the only thing right now keeping me from windows completely
[07:14] <Flannel> Necrosan: I imagine the naming differences have to do with ports vs official
[07:15] <Baz_> is it true that dmraid, and therefore linux, does not support intel bios raid 5? raid...
[07:15] <uramagget> after i was forced to reboot (by pressing the power button) due to ubuntu freezing, i've found out that it is gone from my OS list. It was installed using Wubi.
[07:16] <uramagget> .any known way to fix this?
[07:16] <Necrosan> Flannel: There's definitely a difference between hd-media and cdrom initrd and vmlinuz
[07:16] <liye> CaptainMorgan, maybe i
[07:16] <Necrosan> File sizes are way off in the i386 branch
[07:16] <liye> CaptainMorgan, maybe i had better to install 8.04
[07:16] <Necrosan> Must not be an hd-media image built, I assume?
[07:16] <_2> Baz_ reverse in question.    true is it that intel doesn't support linux in their raid5  :)
[07:16] <Flannel> Necrosan: you may be able to find some other form of media-less installation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[07:16] <lee1733> Is it possible to have GeeXboX uShare point to a folder on a windows partition?
[07:16] <liye> I'm so tired to handle these type errors
[07:17] <Joe_> please... I've lost 2 weeks of work to this damn upgrade... please can somoene help me fix this nvidia-glx-96 issue
[07:17] <Kuwanger> Necrosan: If you have a second computer, netboot is a way to go.
[07:17] <Baz_> _2: oh really is that true? I thought bios raid was OS independent and it was upto the OS to code to it??
[07:19] <rutger> hi
[07:19] <rutger> Anyone here?
[07:19] <somethingclever> yo
[07:19] <rutger> Wondering if u could help. I been all over the FAQ and can't find anything.
[07:20] <somethingclever> whats up
[07:20] <rwparris2> how do i browse to ~/ in the file browser?
[07:20] <rutger> It shows network manager installed but I don't see it there.
[07:20] <Necrosan> i have a mac
[07:20] <Necrosan> powerpc though
[07:20] <_2> rwparris2 up one level
[07:20] <zyrorl> hey is anyone else having problem logging onto msn with the pidgin that is released with intrepid
[07:20] <_2> rwparris2 cd into ..
[07:21] <zyrorl> i've been having problems from day ... and its just coming up with MSNunable to retrieve msn  address book
[07:21] <Digital7> what can i do to produce an output log during bootup? i can't figure out what's going wrong here, and i can't boot up anymore (no error is present when it hangs)
[07:21] <rutger> I am very use windows and am new to Ubuntu. How do I open network manager.
[07:21] <Necrosan> oh sweet
[07:21] <Necrosan> i wont need to
[07:21] <Necrosan> awesome
[07:21] <miranda_psi> rutger: should be a picture of two computers in the system tray at the top right
[07:21] <somethingclever> how do i get my videos to stop giving me seizures? they are flashing badly
[07:21] <rutger> yea
[07:22] <rutger> So is this considered my network manager?
[07:22] <shazoor> when cannonical will update ubuntu human theme>?
[07:22] <Baz_> _2: so regardless of whose fault it is, do you confirm that intel bios raid-5 is not possible on ubunut?
[07:22] <somethingclever> my vids
[07:22] <somethingclever> my vids shake like micheal J fox
[07:22] <Kuwanger> Necrosan: Basically any computer will do for the netboot server (I ended up using a win98 machine to install ubuntu).
[07:23] <_2> Baz_ sorry, no i cant comfirm nor deny.  maybe a look at !hardware would though
[07:23] <miranda_psi> rutger: you can do everything you need to from there - left and right clicks give you different options
[07:23] <Flannel> !repeat | somethingclever
[07:23] <_2> !hardware > Baz_
[07:23] <Baz_> _2: ah ok, thank you
[07:23] <ized> hi all! after upgrade to ibex my video-mode on boot-up isn't set correctly, so i have to choose it manually from a list of modes. please: how can i fix this ?
[07:23] <somethingclever> damnit
[07:23] <rutger> Anyone know what the deal is on the netgear WN111 wireless adapter?
[07:23] <chris248> so what information management is there for Ubuntu?
[07:24] <chris248> like Outlook, Zoot, Chandler
[07:24] <Necrosan> Kuwanger: what about this method - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[07:24] <_2> !info kontact
[07:24] <zyrorl> anyone else having problems with pidgin and msn?
[07:24] <zyrorl> or is it just me?
[07:25] <Digital7> nutger: did you already try ndiswrapper?
[07:25] <_2> what's the gnome version of that ?
[07:25] <_2> !info evolution
[07:25] <_2> chris248 ^ ?
[07:25] <zyrorl> !info pidgin
[07:27] <Leo> hello
[07:27] <Leo> anybody there?
[07:28] <VideoSmith> Leo:  Yes, all 1261 of us.
[07:28] <VideoSmith> Leo:  People were talking until you got here at least. :P  I was just opening this tab to see what's goin' on.
[07:29] <Leo> me too
[07:29] <ized> after upgrade to ibex my video-mode on boot-up isn't set correctly, so i have to choose it manually from a list of modes. where can i set the mode??
[07:30] <VideoSmith> I don't know too much, I only just a couple days ago learned about the "repository philosophy".  But who knows I might be useful ;)
[07:30] <amina> I don't understand my upload speeds. Is there any priority mechanism in Ubuntu? I go up to 150KB/s with bittorrent but can't go higher than 30KB/s with ftp.
[07:31] <_2> !usplash
[07:31] <_2> ized ^
[07:31] <Necrosan> crap
[07:31] <Necrosan> forgot to untar initrd.img
[07:33] <Leo> the command [sudo] does not seem to work well on my computer.
[07:33] <Leo> does anyone met the same problem?
[07:33] <_2> Leo it either works or doesn't,   sudo echo boo
[07:33] <_2> if it says boo at you it's working
[07:34] <Leo> okay let me try
[07:34] <Starnestommy> Leo: what do you mean by "does not seem to work well?"
[07:35] <lowerlogic> hi, does anyone know how to set up a logitech usb headset? I've been searching the web and trying things for the past 3 hours without success.
[07:35] <Leo> when i input a command ,it order my password ,then input the pwd, it shows that can not find the command
[07:35] <Starnestommy> Leo: what command?
[07:35] <Flannel> Leo: Does the command without sudo work?
[07:35] <_2> !tab > Leo
[07:36] <Joe_> since my MB doesn't support two cards, I've been using the Quadro NVS280 PCI but Intrepid doesn't like it... does anyone know of a good upgrade?
[07:36] <Joe_> that does work with intrepid
[07:36] <Leo> for example, sudo apt-get install **
[07:36] <Leo> ok
[07:36] <Flannel> Leo: it says apt-get not found?
[07:38] <Leo> hold on a second,please
[07:40] <Wald1> Hello, stupid question. If I launch an application from a terminal window, the window stays tied up until I close the application. Is there a way to return it to normal function afterward, or to launch applications from it without it doing that in the first place?
[07:41] <Fiberchunks> howdy, can any of you folks explain to me why a command line dig <hostname> works very rapidly, but through xchat or firefox DNS lookups are hellaciously slow?
[07:41] <Flannel> Wald1: you can do `command &` and that'll free up the terminal.
[07:41] <Flannel> Wald1: but if you close the terminal, the window will close
[07:42] <zyrorl> does anyone here use msn in pidgin?
[07:42] <zyrorl> at all/
[07:42] <zyrorl> or are you all anti microsoft  enough not to bother using msn either..?
[07:42] <_2> Wald1 the "nohup" command is made for that also if you don't want to just drop the process to the backgound  but rather completely "disown" it.
[07:42] <Starnestommy> zyrorl: I recall heaeing something about MSN having issues with their SSL certificates recently
[07:43] <zyrorl> :(
[07:43] <zyrorl> i can't connect, it says unable to retrieve msn address book
[07:43] <ubuntuHelpMePlea> hi all
[07:43] <zyrorl> empathy on gnome and windows live messenger on my winblows box
[07:43] <zyrorl> work
[07:43] <zyrorl> but empathy < pidgin
[07:43] <blurr> any staffers on tonight?
[07:44] <rutger> Anyone know the answer about if Ubuntu is capable with Netgear WN111 Wiresless USB Adapter?
[07:44] <ubuntuHelpMePlea> i`ve installed ubuntu as application, now GRUB is ok but my virtual paroot patition won`t boot. please i`m in work now, help me
[07:45] <somethingclever> so all flash works in window mode, but if i try to watch som in fullscreen, it messes up, any ideas?
[07:45] <Leo> hello
[07:45] <MFF-EL-BORI> Hola
[07:45] <MFF-EL-BORI> Primera ves q entro a un irc
[07:46] <Wald1> _2: The nohup command seems to work well for opening my embedded desktop stuff from the Terminal. Thanks!
[07:46] <Grad> help my
[07:46] <Flannel> !es | MFF-EL-BORI
[07:47] <jschall> sound is out of sync with video in flash player 10 in intrepid
[07:47] <Grad> my rasha
[07:47] <MFF-EL-BORI> how i can enter ubuntu-es irc chat?
[07:47] <jschall> MFF-EL-BORI: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:47] <MFF-EL-BORI> thanks jschall
[07:48] <MFF-EL-BORI> i hope you guys have a nice day bye
[07:48] <ubuntuHelpMePlea> my seeror is a message: GRUB error 39: GRUB was not booted from DOS or the backup copy of DOS at physical address 0x200000
[07:48] <ubuntuHelpMePlea> is corrupt
[07:48] <Grad> àìåðèêàíöåâ íàêàë
[07:49] <ubuntuHelpMePlea> is some other channel where i`ll get help?
[07:49] <somethingclever> would wine and flash work better if i turned off my desktop effects?
[07:51] <Wald1> Also, what command would I use to kill one terminal window but not another? 'pkill gnome-terminal something-something-window title'?
[07:51] <tayfun> hello room i wanna ask a question so i ve heard people can install ubuntu in nintendo ds so i found one and download it but it dosnt work.
[07:51] <tayfun> ?
[07:52] <Baz_> hey, when I'm installing software RAID and I am at the point of "Create MD device", do I create a new MD device for each partition (/, /home, swap)? Or just once?
[07:54] <suigeneris> how do I get cut to to use a space as a delimiter?
[07:54] <Grad> âû âñå ïïèïèïïèïïè
[07:55] <zmanning> i love ubuntu
[07:55] <Starnestommy> suigeneris: maybe -d' '
[07:55] <jschall> audio and video are out of sync in flash player 10 in intrepid ibex, anyone know the problem<EMAIL_ADDRESS>4gb ddr1066
[07:56] <tayfun> where can i find some nice applications for linux ubuntu ?
[07:56] <tayfun> where can i find some nice applications for linux ubuntu ?
[07:56] <tayfun> where can i find some nice applications for linux ubuntu ?
[07:56] <FloodBot1> tayfun: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <tayfun> where can i find some nice applications for linux ubuntu ?
[07:56] <blurr> tayfun: google
[07:57] <LSD|Ninja> tayfun: System -> Admin -> Synaptic Package Manager
[07:57] <jschall> tayfun: it is not acceptable to ask the same question more than once in a short space of time. please stop spamming.
[07:57] <tayfun> hahahahah how funny blurr
[07:57] <tayfun> thanks ninja
[07:57] <LSD|Ninja> tayfun: Or Add/Renmove Programs in the main GNOME menu
[07:57] <tayfun> perfect ninja thanks
[07:57] <tayfun> i m gonna check it
[07:57] <deags> i sent something ot the mailing list yesterday
[07:57] <deags> still nothing
[07:57] <deags> whats going on
[07:57] <jschall> tayfun: in the future, please do not spam.
[07:58] <tayfun> jscahlll dont write it anymore man i said already ok
[07:58] <LSD|Ninja> tayfun: there's also a few neat things in the medibuntu repo if you want to add that too
[07:58] <tayfun> ninja i m lookin for some software for the ubuntu kinda like nmap
[07:58] <zmanning> hey where is the best place to put applications (/usr/share?)
[07:59] <LSD|Ninja> zmanning: wherever apt puts them ;)
[07:59] <tayfun> u know i used to use xp so i m new in ubuntu i found nmap and amazing so i thought maybe there is more softwares kinda lik that
[07:59] <LSD|Ninja> zmanning: it's never a good idea to play games with the package manager
[07:59] <jschall> tayfun: "sudo apt-get install nmap" or system->admin->synaptic->search nmap->install
[07:59] <zmanning> LSD|Ninja: eh well not everything is available from apt
[07:59] <Starnestommy> zmanning: /usr/local for things not installed using the package managers.  /usr is fine for most things installed by the package manager
[07:59] <tayfun> jschall dont u read what i wrote i wrote i have already nmap
[07:59] <Starnestommy> zmanning: see also `man hier`
[08:00] <LSD|Ninja> zmanning: Rule 34.1: if it exists, someone somewhere has probably made a .deb for it
[08:00] <jschall> tayfun: you said you wanted something like nmap, never mentioned having it. nmap is like nmap.
[08:00] <zmanning> LSD|Ninja: hahaha awesome
[08:00] <blurr> lol jschall
[08:00] <zmanning> LSD|Ninja: i lold
[08:00] <tayfun> i said i found a software nmap i have it already and wanna have more kinda things like that
[08:01] <jschall> tayfun: if you don't have a specific need, then you're going to have a tough time finding specific software.
[08:01] <tayfun> jschall tell me are you bored ? you need someone to talk ? then u are in wrong place i m not the person who you looking for man
[08:02] <tayfun> so thanks for the help and bye for you help someone else i m sure that there is a lot of people who could need your help
[08:02] <blurr> tayfun, you looking for pentesting tools?
[08:02] <tayfun> yeah
[08:02] <barrel> why is audio in ubuntu or linux in general so complicated....I have an optical audio connection to receiver but sound only works for dts and dolby digital...can someone help me?
[08:03] <blurr> tayfun, specifically on ubuntu?
[08:03] <tayfun> yeah
[08:03] <tayfun> so ?
[08:04] <nitai> whats the command to open a directory with thunar ?
[08:04] <nitai> im using fluxbox and want to add a command to open a folder in my home
[08:04] <Joe_> where is the list of supported nvidia cards for intrepid?
[08:04] <Joe_> I can't find it again...
[08:05] <nitai> i think the command goes something like this -> thunar \home/pictures
[08:05] <blurr> tayfun, just portscanners? or packet  capturing, mitm etc
[08:05] <ubuntuHelpMePlea> how to fix that?: sage: GRUB error 39: GRUB was not booted from DOS or the backup copy of DOS at physical address 0x200000 is corrupt
[08:06] <tayfun> blurr port scanners and admin netz tools like ip sniffer netstat -n paket maanager and kinda like this
[08:07] <blurr> tayfun, have you tried backtrack? purpose built for pentesting
[08:07] <tayfun> and i m  looking for a dictionary software like brutus ( brute force ) for some files what i have in winrar they have password
[08:07] <tayfun> and i gotta open them
[08:07] <tayfun> is this a applications back track?
[08:08] <blurr> tayfun, nah its another distro
[08:08] <_2> hmmm i'm having a network issue on one box on my lan,  i can ping my gateway just fine, and the routing table looks ok.  but can't ping anything on the i(outer)net by name ???     seems to be an reslov.conf issue bur the local /etc/resolve.conf matches the gateway /etc/resolv.conf   ???
[08:08] <tayfun> blurr give me some softwares names
[08:08] <tayfun> so i m gonna check it out
[08:09] <_2> any thoughts ?
[08:09] <blurr> tayfun, have a look at backtrack. will do everything you need.
[08:10] <tayfun> ok
[08:10] <neil_d> getpwnam() is returning an error :(  No such file or directory ..... what file ?
[08:10] <CAiRO_> _2: well, try to use "dig" to see if the dsn server is reachable from your lan box
[08:10] <_Cid> !backtrack
[08:10] <Joe_> ok, it's been so long... how do I tell what mother board I have without opening the case up?
[08:10] <_Cid> oh ...its on remote-exploit.org I seem to recall
[08:10] <CAiRO_> _2: eg "dig google.com @dns.server.ip"
[08:11] <_2> CAiRO_ checking
[08:11] <_Cid> Joe: look at the manual that you kept nicely with the original driver CDs all these years ;-)
[08:11] <CuriosLinux> Wow. I guess they really want me to go ask someone for help.
[08:11] <CuriosLinux> Install xchat, start it and it autoconnects me here.
[08:12] <_2> CAiRO_  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[08:12] <blurr> any staffers in here?
[08:12] <_Cid> Joe: seriosly - while you can find out what chips you got individually (like CPU, embedded sound etc etc) I know of no command that will striaght up tell you what MB you got :/
[08:12] <Starnestommy> blurr: staffers of what?
[08:12] <blurr> starnestommy, freenode?
[08:13] <Joe_> _Cid ok, mainly I just need to know what PCI-E slot it has (it's old, and I put it together years ago), just want to make sure it'll support a new graphics card before I buy it
[08:13] <Starnestommy> blurr: join #freenode and state what you need there
[08:13] <CAiRO_> _2: well, maybe your router isnt doing what it should do?
[08:13] <_2> CAiRO_ ?   it's a ubuntu box
[08:13] <blurr> starnestommy, thnx
[08:13] <Necrosan> Flannel: the netboot method i posted seems to be working
[08:13] <Necrosan> we shall see ;)
[08:14] <_Cid> Joe_: uh ..how old ....PCI-E is not THAT old ...I tend to use old MB's for linux boxes - and with my definition of old ... we still talking AGP
[08:14] <lianimator> EOG 2.24.1 takes 10 seconds to load... anyone also having this?
[08:14] <CAiRO_> _2: well, i dont know if ubuntu is configure to gateway network traffic by default
[08:14] <_Cid> Joe_:  seriously, before you buy - it seems worthwhile to put a phillips #3 to the test ;-)
[08:14] <_2> CAiRO_ it's not the gateway.   if it were it would affect all boxen
[08:14] <_Cid> Joe_: you need to open it anyway to install said card .... whats the harm? ;-)
[08:14] <Joe_> _Cid: Well... I built it before I moved here, which means at least 3 years ago, and I didn't have much to spend... so :P
[08:14] <_Cid> Joe_: seriously doubt it has PCI-E then
[08:15] <Joe_> _Cid having to open it up, find out, put back together, turn on, research cards, buy card...
[08:15]  * _2 warns that "default" isn't in his vocabulary
[08:15] <CAiRO_> _2: ah, ok, can you ping external servers by their ips from your lan box?
[08:15] <Fiberchunks> why oh why does network manager suck so much?
[08:15] <Joe_> _Cid yes, I'm just trying to be lazy... I know the cards it currently has is a GeForce 6200 and a Quadro NVS280 PCI
[08:15] <_2> CAiRO_ yessir
[08:15] <pooger> wow...thats a fair few users ><
[08:16] <_Cid> Joe_: "put back together" seems like an optional step ;-)    but even then, faster than buying blindly ..open box ... put box back together ..take card back to store ...do more research, order old card online ;-)
[08:16] <CAiRO_> _2: hmm, and does the dsn check work from other boxes in your lan?
[08:16] <_2> CAiRO_ yessir
[08:16] <_2> with the exact same /etc/resolv.conf i might add
[08:17] <_Cid> Joe_: good question though ...can we see what kind of BUS we got going ... humm..worth a try
[08:17] <CAiRO_> _2: hmm, thats strange.. maybe your have a difference in the routing configuration or maybe youve set up some iptables rules on the problematic box?
[08:17] <pooger> I was wondering if anyone might know why my ubuntu has an odd quirk. I have music on an internal harddrive. Audacious wont play it until I manually open the harddrive from nautillus. It seems kind of like a permissions thing?
[08:17] <_2> i'm not sure why the wlan and eth are showing up in "ifocnfig" on that box though. only br0 should be showing...
[08:18] <_2> CAiRO_ i hadn't thought of iptables, but i'll check
[08:18] <albech> did anyone try to run win7 under virtualbox?
[08:18] <_2> CAiRO_ nope all clean there
[08:19] <CAiRO_> _2: you could try to put down those interfaces you don't need... ifdown eth0 or ifconfig eth0 down
[08:19] <zmanning> what exactly is Create a USB Startup Disk?
[08:19] <Ahadiel> albech, sounds like more of a #virtualbox question
[08:19] <CAiRO_> _2: even though i would think those other interfaces dont do any harm if you can ping external servers by their ips
[08:19] <albech> Ahadiel: you are probably right, but i was just trying here ;)
[08:19] <_2> CAiRO_ ummm,  yeah i could...    i'll probably lose sshd that way, but i have physical access too
[08:20] <_Cid> Joe_: I dont know, and I got no pci-e here ..so not sure what to look for .... sorry ...I would imagine there would be SOMETHING in dmesg or so
[08:20] <CAiRO_> _2: ah, ok, than don't
[08:21] <_Cid> Joe_:  oh ...err..I think I do have pci-express .....  try   dmesg | grep pci see what you get
[08:21] <CAiRO_> _2: you could maybe try to find out if you can reach other dns servers from your problematic box
[08:21] <_2> CAiRO_ heh too late.   and killing both interfaces errored with/  run-parts: /etc/network/if-down.d/resolvconf exited with return code 1
[08:21] <_2> maybbe i need to remove some /etc/network/if*/crap
[08:23] <CAiRO_> _2: well, i would try to find out why the connection to the dsn server cannot be made.. there has to be a reason for that
[08:25] <_2> CAiRO_ yes, give me a minute to reset the box after changing some scripts.   i'll let you know how it goes.
[08:26] <CAiRO_> _2: ok, good luck
[08:26] <rorot> My BIOS loading Was VERY SLOW, why ?
[08:27] <Joe_> _Cid: Ok... it is older than I thought... AGP card
[08:27] <neil_d> other than /etc/passwd /etc/shadow /etc/group what files does getpwnam() require ?
[08:28] <Starnestommy> neil_d: maybe /etc/nsswitch.conf
[08:28]  * _Cid is resisting the *I told you so*
[08:29] <unop> neil_d, require??  those should cover it
[08:29] <unop> neil_d, but /etc/g{shadow,passwd} might be used too
[08:29] <_Cid> Joe_: mind you - you can get some pretty nifty AGP cards for a pretty good price - what kind of graphic needs you got? ...I dont game much (anymore)  but I ran wow (under wine) full raid settings with a nvidia AGP under linux
[08:30] <Joe_> _CId 4 monitors
[08:31] <_Cid> Joe_: ah..I see
[08:31] <Joe_> _Cid: I was using GeForce 6200 and Quadro NVS280PCI (Now I remember why I found that damn PCI card), Intrepid doesn't like either
[08:32] <_Cid> Joe_: I got zilch experience in multiple monitors, sorry :/
[08:32] <p4rse> proftpd wont start, says "hansserver - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket" (hansserver is my hostname)
[08:33] <_2> hmmm i seem to be making matters worse. now i can't even ping by ip anything on the inet.
[08:33] <_Cid> p4rse: you made sure nothing else runs on that port? :)   and/or that whatever user you trying to start it with have rights to write in /var ?  (just things of the top of my head
[08:34] <_Cid> p4rse:  when I say /var ...its whatever file its trying to set its lock file
[08:34] <_2> CAiRO_ no joy.
[08:34] <Joe_> _Cid mainly used for work (programing, low-graphics) so most I use it for is to watch a tv show or two
[08:34] <p4rse> _Cid: sudo started it
[08:35] <_Cid> p4rse:  was a permission thingy then, oh well - now you rocking :-)
[08:35] <_Cid> Joe_: I am impressed - you can program on 4 screens at the time ;-)
[08:35] <p4rse> _Cid: i mean i when i did "sudo proftpd" i got that error
[08:35] <_Cid> p4rse:  oh :/
[08:36] <Joe_> _Cid heh, 1-2 for the actual code, rest is for references and test copies
[08:36] <Lana> any other webcam compatible programs other than kopete?
[08:36] <Joe_> _Cid actually have 5 monitors, my server (where I'm at right now)
[08:36] <sleepy_cat> hi
[08:36] <_Cid> what is standard ftp again ...21?
[08:36] <blurr> yeah
[08:36] <_2> ok, i found it.  the wlan0 being up but not turned on (no ap avalable) seems to have been interfearing with dns resolution for some "unknown to me" reason.
[08:37] <_Cid> p4rse: have a look to see if that port is in use already - try  'netstat -n | grep 23'
[08:37] <Starnestommy> _Cid: 20 and 21
[08:37] <_2> CAiRO_ found it.
[08:37] <_Cid> p4rse:  err..21 I meant  ....not 23 ...that is..err..telnet?
[08:37]  * _Cid forgets his ports
[08:37] <sleepy_cat> wI saw the harddisks in the system monitor it showed me 2 one sda1 which is of type ext3 and the other one is .gvfs can u tell me wht these are
[08:38] <Zeelot> hi guys I need a lot of help please, I have a 2TB raid set and it used to have a bunch of partitions and an ntfs drive for my data (about 1.5TB), but I expanded the ntfs partition with I think GParted and now I cant access it (it shows as 47GB and the rest unpartitioned but I deleted the older partitions and expanded the NTFS partition to take the whole drive)
[08:38] <Zeelot> I have all my data on this 1.5 TB partition and I just wanted to expand it to use all 2TB, after I expanded it I could access it but then I rebooted and now I cannot anymore
[08:38] <Zeelot>  please any help or direction would be _very_ appreciated
[08:38] <armyriad> On my school computer, the installed version of Emacs is old. I do not have administrator privileges. Is it possible to locally install a recent copy of Emacs?
[08:38] <_Cid> p4rse:  you could also check by doing a   'ftp localhost' I suppose
[08:38] <Digital7> what's the name of the open source NVIDIA drivers included on ubuntu's cd?
[08:38] <lianimator> Running eog gives the message after a long wait: WARNING **: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[08:38] <Digital7> package name
[08:39] <_Cid> Digital7: xserver-xorg-video-nv
[08:39] <p4rse> _Cid: netstat -n | grep 21 returned nothing, 20 returned something with @/org/kernel/udev/udevd
[08:39] <baKka> ccc
[08:39] <baKka> what
[08:39] <click170>  Which is best, Adobe Flash Player (*cringe*), Swfdex SWF player, or Gnash SWF Player?
[08:39] <p4rse> _Cid: ftp localhost got "connecton refused"
[08:40] <p4rse> _Cid: i am running ubuntu server 8.10 btw
[08:40] <_Cid> p4rse: check it out :)   http://www.proftpd.org/docs/faq/linked/faq-ch4.html#AEN273
[08:41] <saler> :)
[08:42] <p4rse> _Cid: thanks
[08:42] <_Cid> p4rse:  did that make sense to you? - basically change it to standalone
[08:42] <p4rse> whats the difference between inetd mode and standalone?
[08:43] <_Cid> p4rse: its basically a matter of how you organize your servers - I am sure other people feel strongly for inetd ... but standalone works really well on a nice modern system like Ubuntu
[08:44] <sleepy_cat> Hi
[08:44] <_2> oh man this is nice.    Memory Used/Total Percent: 9/439 MB (2%)
[08:44] <_2> Swap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)
[08:44] <sleepy_cat> I saw the harddisks in the system monitor it showed me 2 one sda1 which is of type ext3 and the other one is .gvfs can u tell me wht these are
[08:44] <_Cid> p4rse:  I havent used inetd in ages, but it used to be the one place where you defined all your services ... so you could 'restart all internet services' with one command
[08:44] <Starnestommy> sleepy_cat: what do you mean by that?
[08:44] <p4rse> _Cid: ok, will standalone start automatically on reboot etc like most daemons do?
[08:45] <BinaryBoy000> How do I enable my playlist to automatically load using amarok?
[08:46] <_Cid> p4rse:  check if it put an entry in the init dirs ... most likely it did    check in  /etc/init.d  do you see a proftp link?
[08:47] <p4rse> _Cid: yes
[08:47] <_Cid> p4rse: I think you good then :)
[08:47] <p4rse> _Cid: so everything thats linked in /etc/init.d/ will start automatically?
[08:48] <_Cid> p4rse:  those are the init scripts .... assuming there are links to the scripts from the init startup levels... which are located ...err..gimme a sec (man I need caffein)
[08:48] <_Cid> p4rse:  /etc/rcX.d   where X represent the run level
[08:49] <_Cid> p4rse:  have a look in fx  /etc/rc2.d
[08:49] <_Cid> p4rse:  see all those links?   (executed alphabetically - hence the naming convention)
[08:49] <Lana> can someone please help me with using my webcam in ubuntu
[08:50] <p4rse> _Cid: oh i see, cool
[08:50] <_Cid> p4rse:  I am guessing you got a proftp in either rc2 or rc3   if you do ...then it will call the script in init.d
[08:50] <Lana> I've tried several programs and tutorials, nothing is working
[08:50] <p4rse> _Cid: yes its in rc3.d :)
[08:50] <_Cid> p4rse:  meaning it wills tart up in run level 3 or higher ... so if you need to boot up in single user mode (run level 1) it will not start up
[08:51] <p4rse> _Cid: ok
[08:51] <_Cid> p4rse:  I havent looked at run levels in ages ...used to be  3 was where all server component were  and all gui stuff came in 5 ... not sure anymore :)
[08:51] <Leo> can someone offer me help?
[08:52] <p4rse> _Cid: hehe ok, thanks for all the help and info :) now proftpd is up and running :D
[08:52] <Gianpon> Hi everyone. I need a simple html editor, possibly an online one to create graphically simple tables to add to my blog, I thinked to download an html editor but i found only heavy suites that not fit my need a simple tool, can anyone help me please?
[08:52] <Leo> i use the sudo command ,it keeping ask my password,why?
[08:52] <_Cid> p4rse:  sweet ...now...you know FTP is notorious un-secure right? ;-)
[08:52] <_Cid> Gianpon: personal preference, but I like blue fish
[08:52] <_Cid> Leo:  its security ;-)  if you do not like it ... you can run as root ...its not recommended though
[08:52] <Starnestommy> Leo: it's supposed to ask for a password
[08:53] <blip-> hi all, i'm running ubuntu 8.04.  Yesterday I installed the new kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-generic and when asked to replace menu.lst i let it create one (after backing up my own).   For some reason with the new autogenerated menu.lst I'm unable to boot any of the installed kernels including the new one .23... i'm getting an Error 15 File Not found message.  any ideas what's causing this ?   I can't boot any kernel other than the one i'm using now
[08:53] <blip-> (<IP_ADDRESS>-generic).   thanks
[08:53]  * _Cid wonders if he is about to be channel kicked for suggesting using root ...
[08:53] <Leo> yeah, and i give it the administrator password
[08:53] <_Cid> Leo:  for sudo, you should use your own password
[08:54] <_Cid> Leo:  when you as a regular user need to perform actions reserved for super users ...it will prompt you for the passwd
[08:54] <p4rse> _Cid: how do i make it more secure? basically what i need is that each user has ftp access to ~/
[08:54] <Leo> i am the administrator.no other guess session
[08:55] <_Cid> Leo:  shrug.... you can make yourself root then if you like .... <insert standard disclaimer>      'sudo su'
[08:55] <Leo> ok
[08:55] <Starnestommy> _Cid: sudo -i is safer
[08:55] <Gianpon> _Cid: Bluefish is not a very coprehensive editor? I agree with you that a program that can do great thing can do well the little ones also, but I'm not really using html...
[08:55] <_Cid> p4rse:  use encrypted file transfers ;-)  or at least sandbox your ftp access
[08:55] <_Cid> Starnestommy:  never did that ...whats thedifference?
[08:56] <p4rse> _Cid: sandbox ftp access?
[08:56] <_Cid> p4rse:  openssh come with some great stuff, including secure file transfer - that way no one can sniff your mates username/password
[08:56] <_Cid> p4rse:  they would need a secure client..like ... err..WinSCP ...or something like that (if they are on windows)
[08:56] <p4rse> p4rse: oh, is it easy to set up?
[08:57] <p4rse> lol
[08:57] <p4rse> oops
[08:57] <p4rse> im studip
[08:57] <kj4hzw__> remove username/p from that statement and it becomes quite funny
[08:57] <_Cid> p4rse:  sandbox means a closed of area of your server, so even if it is comprimised, thats as far as they go
[08:57] <p4rse> _Cid: ok. is openssh file transfer easy to set up?
[08:58] <_Cid> p4rse:  openssh is easy to set up, yeah  'apt-get install openssh-server'
[08:58] <hateball> p4rse: apt-get install ssh
[08:58] <_Cid> p4rse: I think it will ask you some questions, and help you generate a key
[08:58] <_Cid> p4rse:  now your work is done ...just need to make sure your users use a secure client
[08:58] <armyriad> How can I install software without sudo privileges?
[08:58] <p4rse> i already have sshd, but how do i use the secure file transfering thing?
[08:58] <Gianpon> in addition to it I'd like a software with an easy to use GUI for tables. Surely i can edit it manually, but it will require a lot of time and a nice coding is not so important in my case
[08:59] <_Cid> p4rse:  assuming your friends on are on windows - this one works great (and its free) http://winscp.net/eng/index.php
[08:59] <_Cid> p4rse:  its part of the bundle baby, you already done ;-)
[08:59] <_Cid> Gianpon:  yeah, agreed - bue fish is mostly text based ...sorry ...thats as far as my leet html coding goes ;-)
[09:00] <_Cid> p4rse:  whoever can ssh in ...can also scp in
[09:00] <p4rse> _Cid: oh, nice
[09:00] <Gianpon> _Cid: No problem, thank you!
[09:02] <cjns3274> how do I turn off antialising for small fonts on the gdm/gnome login screen?
[09:02] <p4rse> Gianpon: tables in html are really easy actually... <table><tr><td>row 1 cell 1</td><td>row 1 cell 2</td></tr></table>
[09:03] <_Cid> Gianpon:  you looked at NVU?
[09:04] <p4rse> Gianpon: i would say learn html instead of hunting down a good html editor for linux and then learning that program... http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_tables.asp
[09:04] <_Cid> Gianpon:  http://nvu.com/
[09:05] <Gianpon> p4rse: yes, I know and I can made a table textually, but it is a long process to do considering the fact that the contents of the table will be something that you read once and then forget about them...
[09:06]  * _Cid is watching the NVU video  ...looks fancy
[09:07] <Gianpon> p4rse: in addition to it I'm not trying to build a nice site, I only need some html code to paste on my blog
[09:08] <p4rse> Gianpon: what do you need? i could try slapping up a quick table for you
[09:08] <sleepy_cat> I saw 2 harddisks in the system monitor it showed me 2 one sda1 which is of type ext3 and the other one is .gvfs can u tell me wht these are
[09:09] <_Cid> !gvfs
[09:09] <_Cid> its a gnome virtual file system
[09:09] <_Cid> sleepy_cat:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS here you go :-)
[09:10] <Gianpon> p4rse: I need something stupid like this: http://tablegen.nfshost.com/, where I can insert datas and have in response some code. Maybe it will be useful to have the possibility to paste some code and edit it. That's all!
[09:12] <Artanis00> Is there any way to get rhythmbox to treat a lowly thumbdrive like an iPod for syncing purposes?
[09:13] <Melik> Artanis00,
[09:13] <Melik> banshee has ipod support i think
[09:14] <Melik> try installing banshee