[14:25] <ndy> bekks thanx so you sayin format filesystem from windows and then install kubuntu?
[14:26] <bekks> ndy: No. Just install Kubuntu.
[14:26] <Ilyes512> oh thats the one i am ready lol :P And the numbers are on the overview thing, i see *oeps*
[14:26] <ndy> bekks it doesnt show option to format when im instaling kubuntu
[14:27] <bekks> ndy: you dont have to do that.
[14:27] <ndy> bekks what?
[14:27] <bekks> ndy: Just select the filesystem(s) where you want to install kubuntu.
[14:27] <Ilyes512> bekks that article recommands RSA :/ ah well I will just use RSA 4048 with a passfrase
[14:28] <Beldar> ndy, bekks is pointing you to the manual install, the something other option.
[14:28] <ndy> bekks okhay but it is installing along side with ubuntu
[14:28] <bekks> ndy: It is if you selected to install along side with Ubuntu.
[14:29] <ianorlin> would that create two swaps though?
[14:29] <bekks> Ilyes512: And section 4-6 do not recommand any key, but they explain on how to use that key.
[14:30] <gre-> heya
[14:30] <ndy> bekks along side with ubuntu etc option are not there during installation step all it was showin partion
[14:30] <gre-> is it possible to add an icon/shortcut on the desktop to a website pls?
[14:31] <bekks> ndy: So partition your disk as you want it.
[14:31] <gre-> on 12.04 there was "create a launcher"
[14:31] <gre-> on 14.04 i can't find this setting anymore
[14:31] <ndy> bekks i want it over ubuntu not along side :)
[14:31] <gre-> (unity)
[14:31] <bekks> ndy: So partition that way.
[14:32] <gre-> anyone?
[14:32] <ndy> bekks im going with formating ubuntu partion from windows and installin kubuntu from live usb
[14:33] <bekks> ndy: Whih is wrong.
[14:33] <ndy> bekks y
[14:33] <gre-> :/
[14:33] <bekks> ndy: you cannot install *ubuntu on windows formatted filesystems, so omit that step entirely, as I told you three times now.
[14:34] <ianorlin> you can use gparted on a live usb
[14:34] <gre-> answer me instead, i swear you should have to tell me something 3 times ;)
[14:34] <gre-> should not
[14:34] <gre-> (tired)
[14:34] <ndy> bekks thanx last question wt should i do
[14:34] <bekks> ndy: I told you in a very detail.
[14:35] <ndy> bekks wt if i install kubuntu and format ubuntu
[14:35] <bekks> ndy: I told you in a very detail.
[14:35] <ndy> bekks thanx fella:)
[14:38] <meken> Hi y'all. Does anyone know a way to fire off a shell command when focus shifts from the window of one application to another?
[14:39] <motaka2> hello I am trying to share a folder in ubuntu and I get this error:  'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission deniedYou do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.
[14:41] <googolhash> try it with sudo?
[14:45] <k1l_> no, dont run everything with sudo just because there is a error. are you in the sambashare group?
[14:50] <MasterOfDisaster> *hrhr* sudo make me a sandwich :-)
[14:51] <khax> fuq dat shiiit
[14:51] <bekks> !language | khax
[14:52] <IamEld3st> hi
[14:52] <khax> hi
[14:53] <IamEld3st> i am confused about proftpd setup and how i can acces though it /var/www/html
[14:53] <IamEld3st> need help about that
[14:54] <gre-> damn i need a simple thing, just adding an ircon/shortcut on desktop (to open a website), im on freenode, on the main #ubuntu channel and nobody can answer me that easy question? wtf ? :/
[14:54] <gre-> s/ircon/icon
[14:55] <bekks> gre-: We just hoped you would find this answer, too, within 10s: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67925/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-in-unity
[14:55] <IamEld3st> do some body know how to help me with proftpd?
[14:56] <bekks> IamEld3st: Which specific error do you have?
[14:56] <holstein> IamEld3st: you are likely just trying to edit the html file there? or upload yours?
[14:56] <holstein> IamEld3st: you can use *any* ftp client, if thats what the host is running.. if not, i suggest ssh
[14:56] <holstein> !ssh
[14:56] <holstein> if you are "stuck" with ftp.
[14:56] <holstein> !ftp
[14:56] <IamEld3st> i cant delete/edit/upload
[14:56] <IamEld3st> and btw i adm the hoster
[14:57] <IamEld3st> but at the moment dont have direct acces to server
[14:57] <gre-> no sorry bekks, i was talking about a website shortcut on desktop
[14:57] <luke_> hey people, anyone else ever had problems when running backtrack (i know its not ubuntu but you lot seem available) through a VM and the taskbar goes weird and for instance, the clock is currently taking up half the screen and i can't see any programs i have open. I cant even drag anything back which just seems stupid, its not even locked.
[14:57] <holstein> IamEld3st: you dont have permission, in that directory.. so, what i do is, just upload, and then mv as sudo on the host.. but, there are many ways to do it
[14:57] <gre-> not an application shortcut
[14:57] <gre-> thats not the same easy way
[14:57] <bekks> gre-: which is the same, technically.
[14:57] <holstein> !sudo | IamEld3st
[14:57] <gre-> sure? ok, im going to try again
[14:57] <bekks> !backtrack | luke_
[14:58] <holstein> IamEld3st: i suggest, on the host.. sudo nano /path/to/file.html and make a change, so you see that you can..
[14:58] <IamEld3st> -_- i know how to get files in there but i just want to upload easier than uploading *.tar.gz file then downloading it unzipping there
[14:58] <xeno> In self-answer to my query last night on ftp:  I did find and try out something that is nicely programmable, when the ftp site allows it to work: curlftpfs
[14:58] <luke_> well okay then, cheers. have a good night y'all
[14:59] <holstein> IamEld3st: sure.. do *all* of that to another location.. where you will have permission.. then, sudo mv server side
[14:59] <holstein> xeno: how did lftp work?
[14:59] <xeno> This literally mounts your ftp site on a locally accessable file system:  curlftpfs -o nonempty ftp://ftp.mirror.nl tmp worked for me for instance.  Really nice.
[15:00] <xeno> lftp is fine, but it did not solve my problem, and I kept looking.
[15:00] <bekks> xeno: USe sshfs instead of curlftpfs
[15:00] <holstein> xeno: as long as you are satisfied.. enjoy.. im not clear that you ever had a problem, but a specific and unique need..
[15:00] <xeno> It appears this NT ftp site is configured just not to work at all with filezilla, and to allow none but the very simples of basic ftp activities in active mode only.
[15:01] <bekks> xeno: you cannot configure a ftp site to not work with filezilla.
[15:01] <holstein> bekks: apparently, xeno cant do ssh..
[15:01] <xeno> Perhaps but part of my problem is this system is only available in ftp mode.
[15:01] <bekks> holstein: time for a new hoster then :)
[15:01] <xeno> So I was looking for things that worked with ftp when ssh was absent.
[15:01] <holstein> bekks: thats what i thought..
[15:01] <holstein> xeno: i havent found anything that *doesnt* work with ftp.. and think you have more of an issue server-side..
[15:02] <xeno> Well, bekks, I really would give you a crack at it, but it's a private matter, and I have no rights to provide access to others.
[15:02] <holstein> i didnt see where anyone asked for access, xeno
[15:03] <xeno> Well, I found that curlftpfs, for instance got a 503 error at the server I am referring to.
[15:03] <holstein> xeno: you *should* be using ssh instead of ftp, though.. and if the host is not providing that, they are not a viable host
[15:03] <xeno> I also noticed that curlftpfs wasn't able to even access some other ftp sites, so there appear to be ftp sites with odd behaviors or restrictions.
[15:03] <Guest78391> does anybody use tmux mutt and the solarized colors?
[15:03] <Guest78391> I have there a problem
[15:04] <xeno> holstein, that is what I have been trying, as politely as possible, to explain to my client, who has been doing it this way for 15 years.
[15:04] <xeno> Oh, yes, this is not an anonymous ftp, so curlftpfs may not work anyway.
[15:05] <holstein> xeno: anonymous is not the issue, as im sure you know
[15:05] <Guest78391> I see some strange colors when starting mutt with tmux
[15:05] <xeno> But at any rate, I was really impressed with the functionality of curlftpfs.  I think it's a neat tool.
[15:05] <Guest78391> in particular the color of the mails change when I move the courser over them
[15:06] <xeno> Probably not, but I was tired last night, and forgot to check those parts of the function.
[15:07] <xeno> Okay, curlftpfs does have a user= option.
[15:07] <xeno> I haven't tested it though, as this conversation implies.
[15:07] <xeno> Gotta go make coffee.  Best wishes guys.
[15:08] <Guest78391> again, anyone using tmux and mutt with solarized?
[15:08] <holstein> Guest78391: no.. try going upstream, or wait patiently for a volunteer
[15:09] <Guest78391> mh might as well post it, but thought I might try a direct way
[15:09] <holstein> Guest78391: looks like there is a #tmux
[15:09] <Guest78391> thanks for responding anyway
[15:09] <whoever> Guest78391: no but what is you issue
[15:09] <Guest78391> oh thanks yeah might try my luck there
[15:10] <Guest78391> I have some color issues
[15:10] <Guest78391> some strange behaviour when I use mutt in tmux
[15:10] <Guest78391> colors are changing when I move the courser
[15:10] <whoever> Guest78391: well what are those issues they do sound trivial -
[15:10] <holstein> Guest78391: there is a #mutt as well
[15:10] <Ilyes512> damm \0/ finally got it pff
[15:10] <Guest78391> they are :D
[15:11] <Guest78391> tried my luck with #mutt but no luck there
[15:11] <oki> Hello to all, pls if any can help to me, I have ubuntu 12.04. LTS and try to regulate in already instaled wordpress how can i upload a new themes, plugins, and etc... but i dont know how can i do it that, so if any can show me step by step
[15:11] <whoever> Guest78391: have you tried another theme
[15:12] <whoever> Guest78391: it sounds like your issue is with solarized not mutt or tmux
[15:12] <holstein> oki: http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Themes or your host will provide instructions.. i usually just read the documenation in the web GUI
[15:13] <vbgunz> for some reason, audio plays fine through so many different apps but recording from my mic usually has a crackling sound that I just can't get rid of. I've tried tsched=0 in default.pa and I've tried adding intel_iommu=igfx_off to the linux boot command and I've tried different microphones. Windows 7 on this same machine records perfectly, I've been dealing with this problem for a very long time, I can't fix it :/
[15:13] <IamEld3st> guys just back to that proftpd problem i need to have acces directly to /var/www/html because of wordpress
[15:13] <holstein> IamEld3st: you actually dont
[15:14] <vfw> vbgunz: What kernel?
[15:14] <holstein> IamEld3st: you can mv, the mv command is to move.. you transfer to a location you have access to, then sudo mv server side
[15:14] <IamEld3st> i want to update or install theme and it wants ftp
[15:14] <IamEld3st> automaticly
[15:14] <vbgunz> the 3.13.0-24-generic
[15:14] <whoever> Guest78391: is this what you were tring http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/solarized-must-have-color-paletter-for.html
[15:14] <holstein> IamEld3st: sure.. use ftp to move to a location you *do* have permission..
[15:15] <vbgunz> this crackling only comes from the mic. it's gotten to the point where I've lost almost all hope that it will ever be fixed. I've been dealing with this for more than a year and I just can't solve it
[15:16] <oki> holstein: i saw that  but i have WP on localhost, when i login in and try to upload a new themes or plugis alway ask me that i put a ftp, but i need without that i can doit from localhost
[15:16] <holstein> vbgunz: well, considering, for a moment, that nothing is broken, might help.. you were not promised linux support, correct?
[15:16] <holstein> vbgunz: what i do is, try live CD"s, since its easy to audition different kernel drivers and alsa versions that way
[15:17] <Hemant> help
[15:17] <holstein> vbgunz: also, you can just use a different mic, as a work around.. having one component not working when moving to a completely unsupported operating system is actually not that bad
[15:17] <Guest59285> help
[15:17] <fixmypc956> hyiiuiuhyu
[15:17] <holstein> Guest78391: just ask
[15:17] <vfw> vbgunz: What version of Ubuntu?
[15:18] <fixmypc956> 'j.'jhlkgdr
[15:18] <Guest59285> i 'm using cyberoam client wifi network
[15:18] <fixmypc956> xffzhhdfbdfg
[15:18] <holstein> fixmypc956: please stop
[15:18] <Guest59285> on this network cant download softwarecenter terminal
[15:18] <fixmypc956> on
[15:18] <vbgunz> 3.13.0-24-generic, Kubuntu 14.04. I've already tried different mics, the setup here causes crackling but all mics work on this same hardware when booted into Windows 7. It's at least not a hardware problem.
[15:19] <holstein> Guest78391: not sure what you are asking..
[15:19] <holstein> Guest78391: there is no "software center terminal"
[15:19] <Guest59285> i cant download apps from software centr
[15:19] <holstein> Guest78391: troubleshoot your connectivity independent of applications
[15:19] <Guest59285> hi im using xubuntu
[15:20] <holstein> Guest78391: if you are not connected to the network, or internet, then you will not be albe to download *anything* .. is that the case? are you connected?
[15:20] <Guest59285> i can browse the internet
[15:20] <vfw> vbgunz: What are you using to record?
[15:20] <whoever> holstein: i think you want Guest59285  ! Guest78391
[15:20] <holstein> whoever: great.. thanks
[15:21] <Guest59285> plase help mee
[15:21] <vbgunz> vfw: the problem is most evident in mumble and audacity. using the pulseaudio sound server, even alsa does the same thing
[15:21] <holstein> Guest59285: please open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update" and report errors
[15:21] <whoever> holstein: ya there are too many guestxxxx here
[15:21] <Guest59285> ok
[15:21] <Guest59285> wait
[15:22] <Guest59285> xman@xman-K55VD:~$ sudo apt-get update
[15:22] <Guest59285> [sudo] password for xman:
[15:22] <Guest59285> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:22] <Guest59285> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[15:22] <Guest59285> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:22] <Guest59285> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:22] <unopaste> Guest59285 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:22] <whoever> Guest59285: you have a problem connecting to your wifi ?
[15:22] <holstein> vbgunz: sure.. pulse is likely not the issue.. its likely an alsa driver issue.. you can try adjusting levels in pavucontrol and/or alsamixer.. not trusting any lables.. i have found that i will have issues that are due to a setting that is not labeled properly
[15:22] <holstein> vbgunz: alsa is just making a guess at how to support and control your hardware.. if the manufacturer hasing promised you linux support, and worked with alsa on the support, then you will be on your own..
[15:23] <saleem> hi , im on 3.2.0-58-generic on my precise , should i upgrade it to linux-generic-lts-saucy ? or not ?
[15:23] <whoever> Guest59285:  delete that lock file in the directory you posted
[15:23] <holstein> Guest59285: please close all other package managers.. if you dont understand what that means, reboot the machine,a nd just load the softwarecenter
[15:24] <vfw> vbgunz: So you have tried uninstalling pulsaudio?
[15:24] <whoever> i have no idea why gre- is even using some odd wifi client
[15:25] <saleem> tbh i get confused with kernels so i need help how to go for kernel upgrade on my ubuntu
[15:26] <vbgunz> vfw: I've booted into a backup of my system where I can play around and do exactly that, I've done it and made things worse.
[15:26] <vfw> vbgunz: Want to do some testing?
[15:27] <vbgunz> vfw: all depends
[15:27] <vbgunz> vfw: do you have mumble?
[15:27] <raouk> what is a simple network graphing program?
[15:28] <hk_> kll
[15:28] <vfw> vbgunz: no
[15:28] <vfw> vbgunz: Want to do some testing?
[15:28] <holstein> vbgunz: you can try an older version of lubuntu.. 12.04.. live.. that does not ship pulse.. but, pulse is likely not the issue
[15:28] <vfw> vbgunz: I have gmail and skype google-talk etc.
[15:29] <holstein> vbgunz: you can find, in certain situations, that not using pulse can free up some system resources, and make it seem like pulse was the issue..
[15:29] <vfw> vbgunz: Want to do some testing?
[15:29] <vbgunz> vfw: if you're on ubuntu and can apt-get install mumble, I'll give ya a private address you can at least hear me speak and hear the problem for yourself
[15:30] <vbgunz> holstein: I remember once disabling pulse and I remember alsa taking over and sounding great but it wasn't a fix as I just couldn't play audio the way pulse did. some sounds would never play, etc
[15:31] <qq> hi
[15:31] <NGC982> Hi. I don't really know if this is a Ubuntu specific question, but is there a way to start rtorrent with a specific configuration file?
[15:31] <icecream> hi I have an old laptop with 3gb HDD and 64MB ram. Which OS can run on it fluently?
[15:31] <icecream> *nix OS's
[15:31] <Slart> NGC982: you've checked the man page? sounds like there would be a switch for something like that
[15:31] <vbgunz> NGC982: go to a terminal real quick and type in rtorrent --help
[15:31] <cfhowlett> icecream lubuntu or xubuntu
[15:32] <NGC982> I have not yet read the man file, but -help did not include it.
[15:32] <icecream> It says I need 512 ram
[15:32] <cfhowlett> icecream lubuntu is optimized for older / lower specification hardware.
[15:32] <icecream> It only has 64
[15:32] <vbgunz> vfw: what kind of testing are you talking about?
[15:32] <NGC982> Let's see what the man page say.
[15:32] <NGC982> :-)
[15:32] <icecream> And 3GB HDD
[15:32] <cfhowlett> icecream eek?  I missed the 64 mb ram
[15:32] <icecream> It's an old Siemens Nixdorf Laptop
[15:32] <icecream> From eh 1980 or sth I think
[15:32] <cfhowlett> icecream damn small linux or puppy linux - MAYBE
[15:32] <icecream> ain't DSL abandoned
[15:34] <vfw> vbgunz: arecord -f cd -t raw | oggenc - -r -o out.ogg
[15:34] <vfw> vbgunz: Do it for a few seconds, Ctrl-c and then play out.ogg
[15:34] <vfw> vbgunz: (issue command  play out.ogg
[15:34] <Slart> NGC982: this page, https://kernelwho.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/running-multiple-instances-of-rtorrent/ ,  suggests using a -o switch with some kind of import setting
[15:35] <vbgunz> vfw: yeah, the crackling is there
[15:35] <NGC982> Slart: Oh. Thanks. I just shimmed trough the man file without success. I will take a look.
[15:36] <vfw> vbgunz: Did you use play?
[15:36] <vbgunz> vfw: if you had mumble, you wouldn't have to speak, but you'd immediately hear the crackling I'm talking about. I think I'm legible to understand but the crackling is annoying
[15:36] <vbgunz> vfw: yes, I used play and used amarok, the exact same recording with the exact same crackling came back
[15:36] <vbgunz> I never ever hear crackling under any other circumstances
[15:37] <vbgunz> it's only when I'm recording do I hear it. now if I go to alsamixer and unmute my mic so I have 0 latency loopback. I can hear myself perfectly without any distortions whatsoever
[15:38] <vbgunz> but my recording is going through something that's messing it up.
[15:41] <holstein> vbgunz: have you tweaked *everything* in alsamixer?
[15:41] <holstein> vbgunz: i have found the mic boost mislabed there.. or "gain" that has added distortion there..
[15:41] <NGC982> Slart: I must commend you. It works fantasticly easy and well.
[15:42] <vbgunz> yeah, I've gone through as much as possible. I lowered everything I could without interfering with what I need to hear.
[15:42] <NGC982> Slart: Thank you, so much. :-)
[15:42] <holstein> vbgunz: i would start by recording, then randomly tweaking *evertyhing* as it is tracking
[15:42] <vbgunz> holstein: yeah, I've messed with gain/boost so much but as soon as I'm audible, the crackling can be heard
[15:42] <xman_> helo
[15:42] <xman_> help
[15:43] <holstein> vbgunz: you can likely find a combination that would help, or eliminate
[15:43] <holstein> like, gain *all* the way down.. or boost down all the way, and the level up just a bit..
[15:43] <jalmeida> hi,
[15:44] <Trudko> Guys best way how to synchronize two PC with Ubuntu? I would like to have same copy more or less
[15:44] <Trudko> if that is reasonable.
[15:44] <jalmeida> how to create a ubuntu virtuabox image from hard disk?
[15:44] <Trudko> I guess that would mean having same settings, packages, files
[15:44] <Ilyes512> When you use ssh without the -i flag to identify the key you need. I am still able to login. Using -v will show it will try multiple keys. So basicly it will try all the keys know from "know_hosts" (osx, the same as authorized_keys) Is this true?
[15:44] <vbgunz> holstein: I've been doing this for more than a year, I've lowered boost to 0, gain to 0, mic to 0 and have tried every combination I could think of. as soon as I'm audible, crackling can be heard.  I've made every google link purple in the process trying to fix this microphone problem
[15:44] <xman_> anyone using cyberoam  client in ubuntu
[15:45] <xman_> anyone using cyberoam  client in ubuntu ??
[15:45] <googolhash> vbgunz your case or motherboard probably has an EMI problem
[15:46] <googolhash> try grounding the motherboard and/or components better
[15:46] <googolhash> and setting spread spectrum may help
[15:47] <vbgunz> googolhash: but Windows 7 on this same computer does not have this problem. I'd think a problem like that would show up anywhere?
[15:47] <googolhash> maybe a driver problem
[15:47] <holstein> vbgunz: you can have hardware that does not support linux
[15:48] <googolhash> if its an onboard realtek chip , they have decent linux drivers
[15:48] <googolhash> that you can download from their website
[15:48] <holstein> vbgunz: i like to test with different alsa versions and kernel versions.. i find this easiest and quickest with live CD's.. have you tried *anything* based on older 12.04? how about 10.04? what about upcoming 14.10? have you reported the issue to alsa?
[15:49] <vbgunz> I haven't tried older versions, I haven't reported any bugs, I can't prove a bug
[15:53] <vbgunz> I'm so happy with everything, 99.9% I'd say but when you run into a problem that seems system wide like this, it's just stressful :/
[16:02] <NGC982> Hm. I'm trying to execute a script that updates the scraper on my XBMC (RPI) units when a torrent in rtorrent is done.
[16:02] <NGC982> The script works by itself (when manually executed in terminal with "sh ./"filename".sh"
[16:03] <NGC982> Although, in the rtorrent script i get "Bad return code".
[16:03] <NGC982> The script line is: "system.method.set_key = event.download.finished,notify_me,"execute=/home/kruger/rtorrent_download_XBMC.sh""
[16:03] <NGC982> I wonder, do i need to use the "sh" command after the execute bit?
[16:03] <onca1> NGC982, is the file executable?
[16:04] <NGC982> yes, i ..guess so?
[16:04] <NGC982> I can run it with the sh command.
[16:04] <onca1> that is did you chmod +x scripts ?
[16:04] <NGC982> Since i can run it manually, i think so?
[16:04] <NGC982> I guess it couldn't hurt doing it again for sake of experimentation.
[16:04] <onca1> what you're doing is a bit over my head, but you might want to try chmod +x it
[16:04] <onca1> then try again
[16:05] <NGC982> Ok. I'll try it. :-)
[16:05] <onca1> include in the top of the script firstline #!/bin/sh
[16:05] <onca1> NGC982, did you copy that, include in the top line of the script #!/bin/sh
[16:08] <NGC982> It was THAT simple.
[16:08] <NGC982> The chmod thing sorted it out.
[16:08] <NGC982> Thanks a'lot. :-)
[16:09] <NGC982> In practice, what i'm doing is centralising the media centers in our apartment. I have three RPI (OE with XBMC) units with it's own TV in our two bedrooms and the living room. I have taught my wife to download torrents (now to different folders) via SMB share; And on download, it scrapes it and updates the XBMC units.
[16:09] <NGC982> Uniform and neat.
[16:09] <NGC982> <3
[16:18] <sl33k_> Is there a technique to boot windows from pen drive to install in vmware?
[16:19] <k1l_> sl33k_: for how to get windows on a pendrive better ask the windows guys in ##windows
[16:19] <k1l_> sl33k_: but you can install from .iso direct into virtualizations
[16:21] <sl33k_> k1l_: better way I had forgotten. why bother to burn an iso to DVD.
[16:21] <sl33k_> thanks
[16:25] <Guest17312> hi guys, why ubuntu 14.04 doesn't detect DW1510 wireless-N
[16:25] <Guest17312> it is PCI-E
[16:25] <Guest17312> any idea how to make it work , i used to make it work...cause i just reinstall my PC
[16:25] <Guest17312> thanks
[16:26] <Guest17312> anyone
[16:26] <daftykins> Guest17312: run "lspci" and identify the line that represents your card, then tell us what it is named
[16:26] <daftykins> (run that in a terminal)
[16:27] <Guest17312> daftykins, Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[16:28] <shunya_chakra> Ubuntu is using mir or x-window server?
[16:28] <Guest17312> so what to do next?
[16:28] <daftykins> !broadcom | Guest17312
[16:28] <daftykins> Guest17312: have a look at the link above sir
[16:29] <OerHeks> Guest17312, "The sta (wl) driver doesn't support n channel so anything above 54 Mb/s is out of question." http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206798
[16:29] <Guest17312> OerHeks, well, all i want is to make it work
[16:30] <holstein> Guest17312: try installing the driver and using the device
[16:30] <shunya_chakra> current version of ubuntu using mir or xwindow server?
[16:30] <holstein> !mir
[16:30] <OerHeks> shunya_chakra, xorg, mir is not available as stable yet
[16:30] <holstein> shunya_chakra: mir did not make 14.04
[16:31] <shunya_chakra> ok is it going to be in 14.10?
[16:31] <Guest17312> i'm so noob man, don't know what to do
[16:31] <Guest17312> currently i'm connected with wired
[16:32] <k1l_> shunya_chakra: mir is meant to be standard in 16.04 you can run a test-MIR already on 14.04
[16:32] <OerHeks> Guest17312, follow the url from ubottu about bcm, and you should have 54 mbit internet
[16:32] <Guest17312> OerHeks, why only 54bits?
[16:32] <k1l_> shunya_chakra: but be aware its optimized for phone and tablet so far and not a real pelasure on a desktop
[16:32] <Guest17312> i though it is way more for my device
[16:32] <sl33k_> I have virtual box. It is asking me to enter start up disk. While I want to enter the path of iso. How do I do that?
[16:32] <OerHeks> Guest17312, read back, as i gave you that answer already
[16:33] <daftykins> sl33k_: this is not virtualbox support, please read their documentation
[16:33] <shunya_chakra> ok k1l_ thanks...
[16:33] <k1l_> sl33k_: see the menue of virtaulbox you can set the iso there
[16:34] <sl33k_> I can see how this is offtopic. thanks for answering though
[16:34] <daftykins> Guest17312: ok so you're cabled in, have you fully updated first? (as in installed all available updates)
[16:35] <poz> hi guys
[16:35] <daftykins> hello
[16:35] <poz> I am looking for that application that lets you change audio settings
[16:36] <daftykins> settings such as?
[16:36] <poz> like turning off the auto power management for speakers...
[16:36] <rahuL__> poz,  alsamixer
[16:36] <poz> yeah, i think that was it. thank you!
[16:37] <Pushy> my wireless is working
[16:37] <Pushy> thanks guys for the help on the link
[16:37] <Pushy> i'ts me
[16:37] <Pushy> cool channel
[16:37] <Pushy> so it does support only up to 54mbps
[16:37] <Pushy> i was wondering why is that man
[16:38] <poz> is it possible for ubuntu 14.04 to brake speakers?
[16:38] <daftykins> no
[16:38] <Pushy> daftykins, thanks for help with wireless
[16:38] <daftykins> no problemo
[16:39] <Pushy> daftykins, still curious about why it is only support 54mbps.
[16:39] <Pushy> my DW1510 can handle more that that
[16:39] <daftykins> Pushy: you were told earlier, the driver doesn't support 802.11'n' and therefore cannot go any faster than 802.11'g' which is 54Mb.
[16:39] <poz> lol wow, okay, never mind. I should just pay more attention to pulling a random plug out of the wall to plug in my laptop
[16:40] <daftykins> poz: ubuntu did it! ;)
[16:40] <Pushy> daftykins, i know I was told, but is there a reason why they dont program to support?
[16:40] <daftykins> Pushy: try a different driver if you want it to go faster :)
[16:40] <Pushy> daftykins, how to know which driver go beyond it? i 'm new to this ubuntu thing
[16:40] <daftykins> Pushy: to put it simply, let's just say that Broadcom aren't exactly big fans of the open source world
[16:41] <Pushy> daftykins, so what other driver that i can use to go beyond it?
[16:41] <daftykins> Pushy: well, i linked you to the article which lists all the different drivers... so what you can do is just try each one :) now what did you change to get it working just now?
[16:41] <daftykins> Pushy: please stop repeating yourself within seconds, it is highly irritating
[16:41] <Laurenceb> hi
[16:41] <Laurenceb>  i have a drive containing lots of directories and filenames with spaces (its windoze)
[16:41] <Pushy> daftykins, send me link again...i followed the command line
[16:42] <poz> daftykins, I do tend to have a problem with ubuntu always turning the speakers on and off. The auto-mute is always enabled by defalt and never seems to work. I thought it might have blew the speakers some how by turning the power on and off some how.
[16:42] <Pushy> it works now..but i wish i can be more faster
[16:42] <Laurenceb> i need to copy all the files that have a name matching a search string out of the drive and store them
[16:42] <Laurenceb> can i do this with find?
[16:42] <daftykins> Pushy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:42] <OerHeks> Pushy, no driver can handle your card at full speed (yet), only the STA driver, which only supports 54 mbit.
[16:43] <Pushy> i see
[16:43] <Pushy> OerHeks, i wish someone program it :)
[16:44] <gre-> hi
[16:44] <gre-> well, i just installed ubuntu trusty on an asus X750L (i just bought it), and fn keys + touchpad doesn't work at all
[16:44] <gre-> so i can't enable wifi etc.
[16:44] <gre-> any help plsN
[16:45] <gre-> i modifed grub, i read threads on that
[16:45] <gre-> but issue is the same
[16:45] <daftykins> is the wireless *actually* disabled?
[16:46] <daftykins> does it show up from lspci / lsusb or not?
[16:46] <gre-> yes it is
[16:46] <daftykins> i don't mean does it work, i mean is it there? :)
[16:46] <gre-> its is not
[16:46] <gre-> wifi doesn't appear
[16:46] <daftykins> do you still have the OS it came with?
[16:47] <gre-> i just removed win 8...
[16:47] <gre-> so no
[16:47] <gre-> you make me afraid daftykins
[16:47] <k1l_> what does rfkill list bring you?
[16:47] <k1l_> -> pastebin
[16:48] <daftykins> heh
[16:48] <daftykins> i have that effect on people
[16:48] <gre-> i never used rfkill command
[16:48] <daftykins> well then now's your lucky day!
[16:48] <k1l_> "rfkill list"
[16:48] <gre-> lol
[16:48] <k1l_> put in into terminal and put the output into a pastebin
[16:49] <gre-> nothing in rfkill list
[16:49] <gre-> marco@marco-X750LB:~$ rfkill list
[16:49] <gre-> marco@marco-X750LB:~$
[16:49] <gre-> nothing... :s
[16:49] <k1l_> nothing in rfkill list is a bad sign. put "lsusb" and "lspci" into a pastebin please
[16:49] <gre-> ok
[16:49] <gre-> gimme a sec for that
[16:50] <Pushy> daftykins, i still think you're the best!
[16:50] <daftykins> d'aww
[16:50] <daftykins> my fan club grows
[16:50] <Dhiraj> hey guys just installed ubuntu 14 and downloaded oracles jdk.1.7ver.sh file, when i run sudo sh jdk.1.7ver.sh it gives suitable jar not found error
[16:50] <OerHeks> daftykins, you should take Jono's place :-D
[16:51] <Pushy> daftykins, xchat used to clear the screen by CRTL+L
[16:51] <Pushy> daftykins, no anymore
[16:51] <Dhiraj> here is the total response: Could not locate a suitable jar utility. Please ensure that you have Java 7 or newer installed on your system and accessible in your PATH or by setting JAVA_HOME
[16:51] <gre-> http://pastebin.com/JHwJiJeu
[16:51] <gre-> i just bought this computer, how is it possible?
[16:52] <daftykins> gre-: so, you were telling me lies! 02:00.0 Network controller: MEDIATEK Corp. MT7630e 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter
[16:52] <gre-> mhh?
[16:52] <Dhiraj> hey guys just installed ubuntu 14 and downloaded oracles jdk.1.7ver.sh file, when i run sudo sh jdk.1.7ver.sh it gives suitable jar not found error
[16:52] <gre-> no i swear
[16:52] <trndr> Dhiraj, why don't you just install java with apt-get?
[16:52] <sl33k_> I could not find a suitable panel item for wifi status in xfce? There is a wavelan device item but it does not provide any information about my wireless. Thoughts?
[16:52] <gre-> in right up corner i have no wifi settings, no networks on wireless
[16:52] <daftykins> Dhiraj: that's not how to install java
[16:52] <daftykins> !java | Dhiraj
[16:53] <IamEld3st> dhiraj try to add repo and install it from there
[16:53] <gre-> daftykins: but i still can't use fn to enable wifi actually
[16:53] <gre-> thats why i didn't see any wifi settings, i didn't lie!
[16:53] <Dhiraj> IamEld3st: how do i do that
[16:53] <daftykins> gre-: you're thinking a little too much in Windows terms, it may not even be necessary to use that switch.
[16:54] <Dhiraj> ubottu: i need all of jdk
[16:54] <daftykins> k1l_: are you familiar with that adapter at all?
[16:54] <gre-> so what can i do now daftykins ?
[16:54] <k1l_> gre-: did you just click on the network manager to start up that wifi?
[16:54] <jeffw> am using dwww to view man pages and online documentation but when i go more than 2 directories deep i get an error like this: The requested URL /cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/man/man3/bottom_panel.3curses.gz was not found on this server.
[16:54] <gre-> i didn't click anywhere
[16:55] <daftykins> Dhiraj: read the link, also, ubottu is a bit :)
[16:55] <daftykins> *bot
[16:55] <gre-> i can set brightness, wifi, nothing, fn keys doesn't work at all
[16:55] <Dhiraj> ok
[16:55] <gre-> my touchpad doesn't work as well
[16:55] <gre-> thats so weird
[16:55] <gre-> i can't set brightness i meant, sorry
[16:55] <IamEld3st> Dhiraj: then type in termial sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk openjdk-7-jre icedtea-7-plugin
[16:56] <pakair> Dhiraj, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/02/install-oracle-java-6-7-or-8-ubuntu-14-04/
[16:56] <IamEld3st> it may work
[16:56] <Dhiraj> IamEld3st: wand to install oracles jdk, not openjdk
[16:56] <junka> why does not ubuntu has not updated yet firefox 29.0.1 ?
[16:56] <IamEld3st> it is the same isnt it?
[16:56] <daftykins> guys, you're advising mixed methods to install java without even knowing which one the user wants or needs to run. please apply some common sense
[16:57] <raggg> is anyone here on a thinkpad with thinkfan running?
[16:58] <IamEld3st> ok he want oracles jdk 7? or 8?
[16:58] <gre-> fn keys doesn't work wtf
[16:59] <OerHeks> junka, that is the latest, visit :   http://www.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/new/    # and it says you have it
[17:00] <junka> OerHeks, yeah it does.. but there is a point release. Weird
[17:00] <IamEld3st> Dhiraj: do this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[17:01] <daftykins> junka: 29.0.1 mostly fixed Windows 8 issues, so not having it is not a concern
[17:01] <Guest45828> anyone use cyberoam client wifi  netwrk using  ubuntu?
[17:01] <Guest45828> i need help
[17:01] <junka> daftykins, thanks
[17:01] <Guest45828>  anyone use cyberoam client wifi  netwrk using  ubuntu?
[17:02] <Guest45828> help
[17:04] <Guest45828> cant update ubuntu  in wifi network ?  help
[17:04] <ikonia> Guest45828: describe error
[17:08] <Guest45828> heloooo
[17:08] <Guest45828> help
[17:08] <ikonia> Guest45828: I've already told you "describe the problem"
[17:08] <Guest45828> cant update  using terminal
[17:08] <jeffw> am using dwww to view man pages and online documentation but when i go more than 2 directories deep i get an error like this: The requested URL /cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/man/man3/bottom_panel.3curses.gz was not found on this server.
[17:09] <rahuL__> What errors you are getting?
[17:09] <ikonia> Guest45828: right, so explain the error problem
[17:09] <Guest45828> im using wifi netwrk in my boys hostel
[17:09] <ikonia> Guest45828: you are not giving any details we can use
[17:09] <ikonia> Guest45828: explain the problem/error
[17:10] <Guest45828> i can brows the web but catunt download apps from  ubuntu software centr  connection failed error
[17:10] <ikonia> Guest45828: please post the output of the command "sudo apt-get update"
[17:11] <ikonia> Guest45828: a few minutes ago you said it was from the terminal - so please focus on that
[17:11] <Guest45828> ok please wait
[17:11] <ikonia> Guest45828: please post the output in a pastebin - not this channel
[17:11] <Guest45828> 0% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]
[17:11] <k1l_> then wait
[17:12] <Guest45828> ok
[17:12] <ikonia> it will be port 80 being blocked, apart from browser, which I'd assume will use a proxy/auto configure script from dhcp
[17:13] <Guest45828> i konia  any idea ?
[17:13] <ikonia> Guest45828: exactly what I've just said
[17:14] <Guest45828> still wrking 0% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]
[17:14] <ikonia> Guest45828: yes, it's most likley port 80 being blocked and your browser is using a proxy auto configured from the dhcp server
[17:15] <Guest45828> i thnk smthing  proxy block ?
[17:15] <Guest45828> yess
[17:15] <Guest45828>  how can i solve ?
[17:15] <ikonia> Guest45828: set the system to use a proxy
[17:15] <Guest45828> plase help me
[17:15] <Prakigam> whats up
[17:15] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> On Ubuntu 12 why does the using guest account add an user  and not remove it when logging out?
[17:15] <Guest45828> how to set
[17:16] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: add a user ?
[17:16] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: which ubuntu exactly?
 plese hlp me
[17:16] <allstarsnorks2> guys
[17:16] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> k1l_: Ubuntu 12
[17:16] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: lsb_release -r
[17:16] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: yes
[17:17] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: it doesn't add anything
[17:17] <allstarsnorks2> Why am I having a bad archive mirror error when installing Ubuntu mini?
[17:17] <Guest45828> how to set the system to use a proxy
[17:17] <ikonia> allstarsnorks2: because it's pointing at a "bad archive"
[17:17] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: After each use of the guest account another Guest user is shown at the login screen.
[17:17] <allstarsnorks2> ikonia every archive i go to is a bad archive
[17:18] <Guest45828> need ur help     how to set the system to use a proxy
[17:18] <ikonia> allstarsnorks2: then it's likley your networking is not working
[17:18] <Guest45828> how can i knw my broser proxy ?
[17:19] <ikonia> Guest45828:
[17:19] <ikonia> Guest45828: http://askubuntu.com/questions/342906/change-proxy-settings-in-ubuntu
[17:19] <allstarsnorks2> ikonia you sure? I am using the same wifi network for the Ubuntu mini install and my laptop right now.
[17:19] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> Why is it that after each use of the guest account another Guest user is shown at the login screen?
[17:19] <ikonia> allstarsnorks2: thats what it sounds like
[17:20] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: look in /etc/password - how many guest accounts are there
[17:20] <citrix> hii kaha hai aap
[17:21] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: many using the guest account adds an user each use.
[17:21] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: repeating that doesn't help - doing what I told you will
[17:21] <Vladislav> is there any other type of information that a DNS server has except the usual name to ip and ip to name ?
[17:21] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: again: which ubuntu is that exaclty? which desktop? which *dm?
[17:22] <ikonia> Vladislav: that should be it
[17:23] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> k1l_: Ubuntu 12.10
[17:23] <Vladislav> ikonia: I heard something about Active Directory stuff?
[17:23] <Guest45828> helo
[17:23] <ikonia> Vladislav: you heard wrong
[17:23] <Guest45828> need help
[17:23] <Guest45828> ikonia
[17:23] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: congrats. that is out of support. please update first to a supported version of ubuntu before we work on bugs that are already solved in other releases
[17:24] <XposWinU> in 14.04 , tracepath x.x.x.x does not resolve names, why?
[17:25] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia:  looking in /etc/password shows many, as the result of using the guest account adding an user each use.
[17:25] <ikonia> XposWinU: tracepath ?
[17:25] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: I'd suggest installing a supported version of ubuntu - then resolving issues on tht
[17:25] <ikonia> that
[17:25] <Guest45828> how can i  set the system to use a proxy
[17:25] <ikonia> Guest45828: I gave you the link - read it
[17:25] <Vladislav> ikonia: Well, thanks anyway=)
[17:25] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: how much does support cost?
[17:25] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: nothing it's free
[17:26] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: ubuntu versions have a life cycle called "supported period"
[17:26] <Guest45828> ok
[17:26] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: how is it that support is free?
[17:26] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: once a distro is out of support (like 12.10) no bugs get fixed
[17:26] <XposWinU> "tracepath x.x.x.x" in terminal
[17:26] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: you have no choice of staying on 12.10. that doesnt get any updates anymore and is insecure at all now
[17:26] <Guest45828> ikonia send link please
[17:27] <ikonia> Guest45828: already did
[17:27] <ikonia> XposWinU: shows hostnames for me
[17:27] <ikonia> XposWinU: well, shows the dns names
[17:28] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> k1l_: How is it that 12.10 is  insecure at all now, what changes that makes it insecure?
[17:29] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: it doesnt get any updates anymore. that includes security updates for ssl etc etc etc. think about "heartbleed" the last days. you will not get an update for that now on 12.10
[17:29] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: How does ubuntu pay for the supporters?
[17:29] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: it doesn't
[17:29] <trndr> {{{ASIMOV}}}, security issus get found
[17:29] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: update to at least 13.10 or better 14.04
[17:29] <Guest22369> hola
[17:30] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> Does k1l_ want "heartbleed" the last days?
[17:30] <k1l_> {{{ASIMOV}}}: it makes no sense to fix something in windows 95 because no one will install that anymore. same goes for ubuntu 12.10
[17:30] <k1l_> !eol | {{{ASIMOV}}}
[17:30] <k1l_> please read that carefully. come back when you upgraded to a supported ubuntu or you have issues with that upgrade
[17:31] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: where are the resources found for support if ubuntu does not pay?
[17:31] <ikonia> {{{ASIMOV}}}: people donate time
[17:32] <pietro10> Hi. Where are core dumps stored in Ubuntu 14.04? I tried looking in /var/crash but my program crash isn't there. Thanks.
[17:32] <Jordan_U> {{{ASIMOV}}}: We're all volunteers here :)
[17:32] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> ikonia: what is time?
[17:33] <{{{ASIMOV}}}> Jordan_U: Why do we volunteer?
[17:37] <pietro10> or I found my bug myself
[17:40] <hexhaxtron> Anyone using a GMA500 Poulsbo card?
[17:40] <daftykins> hexhaxtron: it tends to be better to ask the actual question rather than that
[17:41] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, I get a screen flickering. I think it's a kernel problem because it also flickers on TTY.
[17:41] <JediMaster> hi all, is there a recommended method to encrypt a full disk (non-root/boot)?
[17:42] <ikonia> JediMaster: full disk, but non-root and non boot ?
[17:42] <ikonia> that doesn't sound like a full disk
[17:42] <JediMaster> ikonia, how is that not a full disk
[17:42] <Vladislav> Anybody good with PAM?
[17:42] <ikonia> JediMaster: a full disk = everything
[17:42] <JediMaster> ikonia, I said it's not a boot or root disk, it's just a stand-alone disk
[17:42] <ikonia> JediMaster: you've just said a full disk, but without root or boot....
[17:43] <ikonia> JediMaster: oh, I see
[17:43] <JediMaster> no, I said non, not without =)
[17:43] <Vladislav> Why is it good have many small config files with PAM?
[17:43] <ikonia> JediMaster: luks and dmcrypt appears to be ubuntus favoured method
[17:43] <JediMaster> if it makes any difference it'll be a GPT 4TB disk
[17:43] <ikonia> Vladislav: there are not many
[17:44] <Vivekananda> hey everyone a general ubuntu related question. In a gui I pick and choose files and cut-paste or copy easily to a new place. If I had to do such thing over cli what are the things I should know that can help .  I feel that such random folder selection would be quite tough and cumbursome on the cli woundt it ?
[17:44] <Vladislav> ikonia: but they all seem to have very similar information?
[17:44] <JediMaster> ikonia, thanks, is there any ubuntu documentation on those?
[17:44] <ikonia> Vladislav: they are for each "function"
[17:44] <ikonia> JediMaster: https://help.ubuntu.com should contain some solid stuff
[17:44] <Vladislav> ikonia: for each function? Is there any explanation for this?
[17:45] <ikonia> the file name is normally an overview reference of the function
[17:45] <Vladislav> ikonia: alright=), thanks man
[17:46] <Dhiraj> Now Working: sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1
[17:46] <Dhiraj> after that i typed java command , nothing happened
[17:46] <XposWinU> in 14.04 , "tracepath x.x.x.x" in terminal does not resolve names, why?
[17:46] <ikonia> XposWinU: it does - it works on dns names, if there are dns names
[17:48] <terraformer> hey peeps, anybody encountered a problem with the dropbox indicator not showing in the notification area?
[17:49] <XposWinU> no it does not
[17:49] <ikonia> XposWinU: it certainly does, -n tells it not to use names,
[17:49] <XposWinU> I didn't use -n
[17:49] <ikonia> XposWinU: right, so it will try to use dns names if they are available
[17:50] <XposWinU> on every other non 14.04 based distro I tested it worked, and resolved the name, but on 14.04 ubuntu, xubuntu it didn't work
[17:50] <ikonia> XposWinU: so you may want to check your name resolution
[17:51] <daftykins> doesn't xubuntu lack avahi as default or something odd?
[17:51] <ikonia> XposWinU: also confirm the man page for the version you are usig to see if anything has changed in your version
[17:52] <Dhiraj> Now Working: sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1; bun it worked while javac
[17:52] <ikonia> Dhiraj: you've already said that
[17:52] <ikonia> Dhiraj: what do you want us to do about it ? you've not actually said the problem
[17:52] <Dhiraj> indtalling jdk on ubuntu
[17:53] <ikonia> Dhiraj: that is not the command to install
[17:53] <Dhiraj> folowing some thread for it, and stuck with this problem http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-JDK-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[17:53] <ikonia> Dhiraj: with what problem ?
[17:54] <Dhiraj>  sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1 this command notifies the system that Oracle Java JRE is available for use
[17:54] <ikonia> Dhiraj: so what's the actual problem ?
[17:54] <Dhiraj> but after i expected to run java command smooth
[17:54] <Dhiraj> can not find java command
[17:55] <ikonia> Dhiraj: /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java - does that exist ?
[17:55] <Dhiraj> $ java The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:  * default-jre  * gcj-4.8-jre-headless  * openjdk-7-jre-headless  * gcj-4.6-jre-headless  * openjdk-6-jre-headless Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[17:55] <ikonia> Dhiraj: /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java - does that exist ?
[17:55] <AcidRain2012> why  not just isntall the package?
[17:56] <Dhiraj> it "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin" for me
[17:57] <ikonia> Dhiraj: /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java - does that exist ?
[17:57] <ikonia> Dhiraj: please focus on the question I'm asking
[17:58] <Dhiraj> ikonia: no
[17:58] <Dhiraj> for my instance its :and my command was: sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1
[17:59] <Dhiraj> ikoniaand i have "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/"
[17:59] <Dhiraj> ikonia: i have "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/"
[18:01] <ikonia> Dhiraj: I cannot help you - you do not give me the information I asked for
[18:01] <ikonia> Dhiraj: good luck, I suspect the problem is you have not followed the instructions properly as you seem unable to follow clear instructions
[18:01] <Vladislav> is OPIE the same as S/KEY? I'm confused
[18:02] <Dhiraj> ikonia: whats wrong with :::sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java" 1 :: while ::sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/javac" "javac" "/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/javac" 1:: worked fine
[18:03] <elcharuto> alguem de portugal neste canal???!!!
[18:03] <bekks> !pt | elcharuto
[18:03] <ikonia> Dhiraj: ask someone else, you dont follow instructions/give me the info I asked for
[18:04] <Dhiraj> ikonia: lets try one more time, what do u want
[18:04] <ikonia> Dhiraj: lets not, - ask someone else
[18:04] <Dhiraj> ikonia: no problem :)
[18:05] <Vladislav> Difference between S/KEY and OPIE ?
[18:06] <grrk-bzzt> Hello
[18:07] <grrk-bzzt> How can I make a shell script to run a commande in a specific folder
[18:07] <ikonia> grrk-bzzt: tell the shell script to change direcotry into that folder
[18:07] <grrk-bzzt> ikonia, "cd" is enough ??
[18:07] <ikonia> grrk-bzzt: that works fine
[18:07] <grrk-bzzt> Let me try that
[18:10] <thewebsurfer> ciao a tutti..
[18:11] <grrk-bzzt> That doesn't work ikonia
[18:12] <grrk-bzzt> ikonia, I'm using wine and I can't tell wine to execute like this "wine /path/to/software/program.exe"
[18:12] <grrk-bzzt> I have to do "cd /path/to/software ; wine program.exe"
[18:12] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[18:12] <grrk-bzzt> But that doesn't work writing this in a script
[18:13] <Bundestrojaner> what's the best way to get ladspa.h?
[18:13] <Bundestrojaner> there's no package like libladspa or ladspa-dev in the rep
[18:14] <trism> Bundestrojaner: I see it in ladspa-sdk
[18:14] <Bundestrojaner> trism: thx
[18:16] <Pushy> scammer?
[18:16] <terminal_> i've an ubuntu partition for my fileswhat is the best way to strongly encrypt it all?
[18:17] <terminal_> i dont mean the system partition
[18:23] <sruz25> I've got problem with adjusting brightness, (fgrlx, ideapad z575) it works perfectly during boot, but after I load DE it doesn't really work - sometimes it suddenly jumps max/min brightness, when I press the fn+up/down for long enough time, but without any middle steps. Any idea what could be causing it? My guess is that there's something else messing with brightness...
[18:24] <sruz25> but I have no idea what it could be...
[18:34] <Mojtaba> Hi, I am copying about 2TB data and I just want to know if I could pause it or not?
[18:34] <Mojtaba> I am using cp -arv
[18:35] <ikonia> no
[18:35] <ikonia> you'd find it better to use something like rsync that picks up where you quit it
[18:35] <ikonia> however do not pause it
[18:35] <ikonia> or try to
[18:36] <Mojtaba> ikonia: Do you know what should I do know?
[18:36] <ioGuy> hi, how i can use Tor ? i install tor package, now what?
[18:36] <ikonia> Mojtaba: what do you mean what do you do ?
[18:36] <Mojtaba> ikonia: It is now 13 hours and it needs about more 16 hours.
[18:36] <ikonia> Mojtaba: then wait
[18:37] <Mojtaba> ikonia: My laptop is kind of hanging. And I need to do something
[18:37] <ikonia> Mojtaba: then quit it - and do it when you have more time
[18:37] <ikonia> however a copy should not hang your laptop
[18:37] <Mojtaba> ikonia: I guess I am running out of memory.
[18:38] <ikonia> Mojtaba: you should not be
[18:38] <Mojtaba> ikonia: Is there something wrong?
[18:38] <Mojtaba> ikonia: I mean how can I check that?
[18:39] <ikonia> check your ram/cpu usage
[18:39] <Mojtaba> ikonia: Thank you for your suggestion about rsync, I will use that later.
[18:46] <mandrakora> hola alguien sabe el canal de ubuntu en español
[18:46] <ikonia> !es | mandrakora
[18:50] <majod> hi. i reseted my bios today. everything is fine but when i turn off the computer, after 5 seconds it automatically turns back on. not sure how to fix it? i use desktop computer, not laptop
[18:50] <Daghdha> Hi, i am about to install Dovecot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot Do i need imapd? I will use pop3
[18:50] <ikonia> majod: not an ubuntu issue
[18:51] <ikonia> Daghdha: then no
[18:51] <Daghdha> It states however to install imapd and pop3d
[18:51] <Daghdha> ok ikonia, thanks
[18:52] <majod> ikonia: weird becuase i had this issue few weeks ago but reinstalling the ubuntu helped.
[18:52] <ikonia> majod: ubuntu does not control your bios
[18:53] <majod> ikonia: thats why i had to reset it today. because whenever i booted to ubuntu, it disabled my usb devices in post screen. it worked until i booted to ubuntu and reseted my computer. i use uefi btw
[18:53] <ikonia> majod: still not an uubntu issue
[18:53] <ikonia> majod: ubuntu does not control your "pre boot" enviornment
[18:56] <shadowe989> ikonia is right aobut the bios, on load linux uses its own software after the bootloader.
[18:56] <shadowe989> about*
[19:04] <Mia18>  You can find funny videos here. http://bitly.com/1kdRPeV
[19:05] <ikonia> Mia18: please don't spam video links in #ubuntu or other channels
[19:05] <Daghdha> Hi i am using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot  "In addition, add the following line in the "protocol pop3" section in the /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:"
[19:05] <Daghdha> ^^ There is no such section
[19:05] <ikonia> Daghdha: is that guide meant for your vesion of ubuntu ?
[19:06] <Daghdha> It doesn't specify any version of ubuntu
[19:07] <ikonia> Daghdha: it says "append"
[19:08] <ikonia> ammend sorry
[19:09] <Daghdha> where do you see that?
[19:10] <Daghdha> I just see text saying i should add it to the 'protocol pop3' section. I don't see any mention of pop3 in the file
[19:10] <ikonia> right, you need to "add" it
[19:10] <ikonia> add means "it's not there"
[19:10] <Daghdha> So i wonder, should i make it? What is the syntax?
[19:10] <Daghdha> No
[19:11] <Daghdha> semantics is wrong then.
[19:11] <ikonia> no it's not
[19:11] <Daghdha> yes it is
[19:11] <ikonia> fine, good luck, help yourself
[19:13] <Daghdha> "In addition, add the following line in the "protocol pop3" section in the /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:" This text implies the existence of a "protocol pop3" section and wants me to add a line to the 'protocol pop3' section.
[19:13] <ikonia> Daghdha: argue english in another channel, it's quite clear
[19:20] <vbgunz> I just rebooted from windows 7, tested the microphone in so many ways and it's depressing. sure drivers are written specifically for Windows 7 but audio crackling on Linux shouldn't be a problem :/
[19:21] <vbgunz> I really feel it shouldn't be a problem, damn I feel helpless about this :/
[19:22] <kat_> Hi, guys, nobody is over on the Bodhi channel, but I hear it is similar to Ubuntu. I downloaded Minetest through the terminator, and it is running, but I would like to get some mods. I don't know how to do that. In the game, you can go to the mod section and then to their store, but it won't download for me. I went to Minetest server, but the link they gave me doesn't explain it very good being I'm a linux newbee. Please help if you can.
[19:23] <ikonia> kat_: we don't support dobhi stuff here
[19:23] <ikonia> sorry
[19:23] <kat_> k
[19:23] <loganetherton> I am having some rather confusing difficulties. A network which I was previously able to connect to with Ubuntu 12.04 I am no longer able to connect to. There were no updates to machine when the connectivity problems began. I am using an Atheros AR9485 wifi, and have tried many suggestions from Google, but no such luck
[19:23] <ikonia> bodhi stuff
[19:24] <loganetherton> Any guidance would be appreciated
[19:25] <loganetherton> Ah, also, I am able to connect to my phone's wifi, but not this network. I've read that I'm not the only one who has experienced issues like this before
[19:27] <azerty_> bonjour
[19:29] <msrd0> ey guys, there occurs an error while installing grub2 on a system with 2 hard disks, one of them is intel ssd (and there is the mbr) and on the other one i want to install ubuntu. on startup windows starts normally and not grub2. any idea?
[19:30] <jpavlick> Hi guys. I'm having trouble getting port 443 open on an Ubuntu server I own. Can someone help me out?
[19:30] <Beldar> msrd0, Have you used the bootrepair app yet?
[19:31] <ikonia> jpavlick: how are you trying to open it ?
[19:31] <jpavlick> Well, let me tell you this. `nmap localhost` shows that it is open, but `nmap mydomain.com` does not.
[19:31] <jpavlick> I've copied and pasted some iptable commands from the web but no luck
[19:31] <jpavlick> I'm thinking I'm overlooking something.
[19:32] <ikonia> jpavlick: what is running on port 443 ?
[19:32] <jpavlick> netstat reveals tcp6       0      0 [::]:https              [::]:*                  LISTEN      4287/apache2
[19:32] <jpavlick> which sounds good to me.
[19:32] <aquaguy> Hello.
[19:32] <ikonia> jpavlick: no, I'm not asking you for IPv6 info
[19:32] <ikonia> jpavlick: what IS running on port 443
[19:32] <ikonia> jpavlick: please answer the questions I ask
[19:33] <jpavlick> I'm sorry. I misunderstood your question.
[19:33] <jpavlick> apache is running on port 4434
[19:33] <jpavlick> 443
[19:33] <ikonia> jpavlick: what IP addresses is apache2 set to listen on
[19:33] <aquaguy> I'm using samba for sharing folders, in the samba config i'm using force user and force directory directives, both set to www-data, the group is being set right, but the user is always set to root both for files and folders. why is that? how can I solve it?
[19:34] <aquaguy> Thanks in advanced
[19:34] <rww> sidenote: apache shows up as ipv6 rather than ipv4 in netstat. this is normal, and the output above indicates it's listening on the equivalent of <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:34] <msrd0> Beldar: no i didn't. whats that?
[19:34] <jpavlick> ikonia: Hmm. I have a <VirtualHost *:443> does that mean it is listening for every IP address?
[19:34] <ikonia> jpavlick: yes,
[19:34] <ikonia> jpavlick: so if you do "telnet localhost 443" do you get a connection ?
[19:35] <jpavlick> Yes, it seems as though I do.
[19:35] <ikonia> jpavlick: it's black or white
[19:35] <ikonia> it either connects or it doesn't
[19:35] <jpavlick> I'm sorry. I get this Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[19:35] <jpavlick> Connected to localhost.
[19:35] <jpavlick> Escape character is '^]'.
[19:35] <jpavlick>  Which I think is good? I've never really used telnet before.
[19:35] <ikonia> jpavlick: ok, that shows a connection
[19:35] <Beldar> msrd0, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair take a look. Note on the gui a button to just get the bootinfo summary, do just that and post the url of it here for diagnoses.
[19:36] <ikonia> jpavlick: now verify the same on the IP address you want to connect on
[19:36] <Beldar> msrd0, You can do this from the booted live ubuntu media.
[19:36] <jpavlick> ikonia: Unable to connect to remote host. Similar behavior happens with wget localhost/mydomain.com
[19:37] <ikonia> jpavlick: what is the exact telnet comment you used
[19:37] <jpavlick> ikonia: It seems as though iptables or ufw is blocking external connections to 443?
[19:37] <jpavlick> ikonia: telnet mydomina.com 443
[19:37] <ikonia> jpavlick: I didn't say do that
[19:37] <ikonia> jpavlick: I said telnet to the IP ADDRESS
[19:37] <jpavlick> ah
[19:37] <ikonia> jpavlick: please do that from the same host running the web server also first
[19:38] <jpavlick> ikonia: I am currently doing everything from the host running apache.
[19:38] <ikonia> jpavlick: that's great
[19:38] <delt> Hello
[19:38] <delt> anyone has any experience with bluetooth dongles such as this one? says "Linux and mac not supported" --- http://www.ebay.ca/itm/200978396537
[19:38] <jpavlick> ikonia: telnet my.ip.addr.here 443 - connection refused
[19:38] <ikonia> jpavlick: ok, so "sudo iptables -F"
[19:38] <ikonia> then re-test
[19:39] <jpavlick> ikonia: uh oh. it seems as though my ssh connection died after running that.
[19:39] <ikonia> jpavlick: reconnect
[19:39] <jpavlick> I'm trying and it's just sitting there trying to connect. I think it's going to time out.
[19:40] <ikonia> jpavlick: iptables -F just flushes the iptables rules that are active
[19:40] <jpavlick> maybe one of them was "open port 22"?
[19:40] <ikonia> jpavlick: that should basically blank the firewall rules
[19:41] <jpavlick> hmm
[19:41] <AcidRain2012> jpavlick, why filter out your ip?
[19:41] <AcidRain2012> ;)
[19:42] <jpavlick> Ha IDK. I didn't set this up. It's a rackspace VM.
[19:42] <jpavlick> I'll play with it.
[19:42] <ikonia> iptables -X would probabably hve been cleaner
[19:42] <AcidRain2012> where you get a rackspace at?
[19:42] <ikonia> jpavlick: the best thing to do would be to reboot the host, go back to default ubuntu ufu rules
[19:42] <ikonia> jpavlick: then we can append them, rather than blindly typing things off the internet
[19:42] <AcidRain2012> ^lo;l
[19:42] <ikonia> that way we move forward from a known good starting point
[19:43] <jpavlick> Right. I'm rebooting it from the rackspace console.
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> yes
[19:45] <Beldar> delt, That is a needle in a hay stack possibility, I would believe what it says and run from ebay.
[19:47] <terminal_> how an i encrypt my ubuntu personal data partition?
[19:47] <jpavlick> Alright. I'm back in.
[19:47] <Beldar> terminal_, during install or after?
[19:48] <f0ggy> Hi everyone.  I'm having some problems with my sound; when I put in headphones, there's no sound through them, though it's working fine with just the speakers in my laptop.
[19:48] <terminal_> Beldar: after i installed ubuntu i need a strong encryption method avoiding acessing my HD of sniffer ppl
[19:49] <Beldar> terminal_, really, can you define sniffer ppl?
[19:49] <f0ggy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7511808/ has my lspci and my lsmod
[19:49] <f0ggy> It definitely "sees" the headphones, since the icon appears in the upper right, and it mutes the main speakers
[19:50] <terminal_> Beldar: sniffer ppl who are on my same LAN,they told they can hack me with meta splot
[19:50] <holstein> f0ggy: unmute and test.. try pavucontrol and alsamixer.. dont trust any labels.. tweak all settings to test
[19:50] <f0ggy> holstein: I've tried maxing out everything, but no joy.
[19:50] <Guido1> Hello, i need a quick data recovery. (easy and quick). I ahde a file "media.odt" in e specific folder on a partition. I moved the file to a different partition. on the new partition it got corrupted. so i would like to find it on the old location.
[19:51] <jpavlick> ikonia: I'm back in. Still unable to telnet ip.addr 443
[19:51] <holstein> f0ggy: in pavucontrol?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> terminal_  you mean metasploit?
[19:51] <f0ggy> It does play sound through the speakers when I unmute the thing called Speakers
[19:51] <Beldar> terminal_, If your booted and on the lan, it does not matter whether encrypted or not
[19:51] <f0ggy> holstein: pavucontrol and alsamixer
[19:51] <holstein> f0ggy: the jack and headphones should be tested as well
[19:52] <terminal_> MonkeyDust:something i dont remember with this tune
[19:52] <terminal_> Beldar: so i must not worry about what they show?
[19:52] <f0ggy> The headphones are fine.  Not sure how I can test the jack, though I can say it worked at one point in the not too distant past.
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> terminal_  what Beldar says, no need to be paranoid
[19:52] <jimi_> What package provides the log out menu in gnome?
[19:53] <holstein> f0ggy: i would test with a live CD that i know supported it in the past.. or a supported opetating system
[19:53] <terminal_> MonkeyDust: i've family pictures of my family on that computer so i felt worry
[19:53] <f0ggy> I can give that a shot.
[19:53] <f0ggy> Back in a bit, then. :)
[19:54] <Kion> can someone outline me how is the installation via network done?
[19:54] <Beldar> terminal_, Having everything backed up is your best safety, off the computer.
[19:54] <holstein> !netinstall
[19:55] <terminal_> Beldar: thanks :)
[19:56] <Beldar> terminal_, No problem. ;)
[19:56] <holstein> Kion: the mini iso is a lot like a normal installation.. then, you can connect to the network, and download what you like.. an arguably more simplified version of net install
[19:56] <holstein> !mini
[19:59] <delt> Beldar: needle in a haystack possibility... that it might work?
[19:59] <Beldar> delt, That anyone here would know about that dongle.
[20:00] <fridaynext> hehe, dongle.
[20:00] <holstein> you cant know about it.. the manufacturer can change the chipset at anytime.. and they dont have to alert anyone. just do what they have promised, which is, supply windows support and windows driver
[20:00] <Beldar> fridaynext, common term here. do you need support?
[20:01] <delt> fridaynext: dongle
[20:01] <holstein> you could have one of those BT dongles that works, and buy the exact same model, and have it not work
[20:01] <delt> holstein: deja vu -)
[20:02] <holstein> delt: im cross answering so you can see a larger community not disagree with me
[20:03] <reisio> he's not wrong, but I'd still consider it fairly unlikely
[20:03] <delt> wow, for some reason i see a larger community not disagreeing with you.
[20:03] <reisio> which of course means people will still encounter it :)
[20:04] <delt> in other news, anyone using "indicator-cpufreq"?
[20:04] <holstein> delt: its becuase its true of *all* hardware.. you take your chances when they say they dont support linux
[20:05] <delt> on my laptop the cpufreq icon represents cpu load, on this machine it doesn't (stays at minimum)
[20:05] <holstein> delt: this is only becuase i feel you are asking for a final, guaranteed answer. and the folks who can give you that answer have already said they dont support linux.. otherwise, i find they typically just work
[20:05] <delt> holstein: thanks for the insight
[20:05] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Try terminal commnad -> sudo find / -name media.odt <-. Will take some time to hunt that file up.
[20:06] <Guido1> Bashing-om: i guess i have to enter the partition and maybe folder. how do i include that into the command?
[20:07] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Is not that partition already mounted ? the commnad searches the entire mounted file system for that file.
[20:09] <Bashing-om> Guido1: The '/' starts the search at "root's" directory and ALL directories under it.
[20:10] <Guido1> Bashing-om: i'm not so familiar with the command line
[20:12] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Not a problem, we are here to also teach. see terminal command -> man find <- key 'q' to quit and return to the terminal.
[20:13] <Guido1> Bashing-om: it's mopunted and called "onderweg" (sda7)
[20:13] <delt> ...so, in other news, anyone using "indicator-cpufreq"? on my laptop the cpufreq icon represents cpu load, on this machine it doesn't (stays at minimum)
[20:13] <Guido1> Bashing-om: so after starting the terminal i enter "man find"
[20:14] <delt> exact same version on both.
[20:14] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Run the 'find' cammand as given, if that file name exist, 'find' will find it. // man is short for 'manual' every linux has the manual installed.
[20:15] <luttermann84> So... While trying to provision a server using MaaS, apt complained that the Packages file was gone! And it seens to be right, only Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz are avalible! What to do now?!
[20:15] <Guido1> Bashing-om: how do i get the find to work in the correct partition?
[20:18] <knuxee> 1727 users???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  OMG!
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> luttermann84  better ask in #ubuntu-server, I guess
[20:18] <Beldar> knuxee, They are all watching you!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[20:19] <Guido1> Bashing-om: the partition is "onderweg" (sda7). sop the sommant is sudo find /sda7/ -name media.odt is that right?
[20:20] <luttermann84> MonkeyDust: Thanks! I'm from the debian world, and this is actually my first time in the #ubuntu* channels... so i don't know where to go :o
[20:20] <rebelxt> Can anyone tell me what synaptic return code 129 means? Or a better channel on which to ask this question?
[20:20] <bserveur> hi
[20:20] <delt> it means synaptic returned a code of 129
[20:21] <delt> how useful knowing that is.... not too sure
[20:21] <Beldar> msrd0, I see you are back you on the live cd/usb?
[20:21] <Bashing-om> Guido1: We are not working at the partition level, rather at the directory level.  If you know the file you want is in a directory, you may narrow the serch down to that directory ( and all under that Top Level Directory).
[20:22] <RustyShackleford> i am having this issue where web pages won't load
[20:22] <k1l> delt: please be helpfull in here. pleople try to get help and dont need comments like that. thank you
[20:22] <RustyShackleford> however, after refreshing several times, it will load
[20:22] <reisio> it would be in the synaptic source code, at least
[20:22] <RustyShackleford> in the past, it had something to do with DNS caching
[20:22] <delt> k1l: sorry
[20:23] <Beldar> RustyShackleford, I am from links on the irc only, to like pastebin and a few others, this similar?
[20:23] <Guido1> Bashing-om: okee and how do i do that? starting the termal from nautilus?
[20:25] <adamcunnington> what is the default permission flag for a file? i just chmod +x my_file.py and i want to revert to what it was
[20:25] <bekks> adamcunnington: There is no "default".
[20:25] <delt> adamcunnington: chmod -x my_file.py
[20:25] <k1l> adamcunnington: do chmod -x
[20:25] <delt> bekks: actually there is a default set by ulimit
[20:26] <Guido1> Bashing-om: and i'm searching in the folder where it was in. not in the folder in which i put it
[20:26] <Beldar> delt, indicator-cpufreq has a drop down to change that.
[20:26] <luttermann84> delt: you mean umask right?
[20:26] <bekks> delt: you mean umask. umask has nothing to do with files installed by a package.
[20:26] <delt> luttermann84: *duh* oh yeah
[20:26] <delt> bekks: *duh* oh yeah
[20:27] <delt> Beldar: here the dropdown just shows the list of possible frequencies, and the possible governors (ondemand, etc)
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Weelll, If ya know the direcory that the desired file may be in ( everything in linuz is a file ) all that is required is to list the contents of said dirctory. You say sda7 is mounted. What and where is it mounted from? once the mount point is known the contents can be listed .
[20:27] <Beldar> delt, You can set it to several modes is all.
[20:28] <Beldar> delt, I use it for that control and a conky to show cpu usage in real time from the desktop.
[20:28] <delt> conky?
[20:29] <Beldar> delt, A gui you can customize, kinda cool really.
[20:29] <delt> Conky is a free software system monitor for the X Window System. It is available for Linux, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD.[2] Conky is highly configurable[3][4][5] and is able to monitor many system variables including the status of the CPU, memory, swap space, disk storage, temperatures, processes, network interfaces, battery power, system messages, e-mail inboxes [....]
[20:29] <reisio> never quite got into that
[20:30] <reisio> but when I do bother with it, I like to dump things however I please into an image, with imagemagick
[20:30] <Beldar> reisio, NO soup for you. ;)
[20:30] <reisio> and then set it as my desktop wallpaper, updating at any interval I please :)
[20:30] <Guido1> Bashing-om: I moved the file from on partition to another partition (moved, not coppy) On the new location i did some changes and the file got corrupted. so i want to revcover the old version from the partition it was on before
[20:30] <reisio> Beldar: nooooo
[20:32] <Guido1> Bashing-om: the result from the commant is that i just get to the next command line
[20:32] <Bashing-om> Guido1:  OH Boy, you have a problem as when "moved" the file no longer has reference points to find it again from the file system. What you might so is use the utility "testdisk" and see if it can recover that file. Thee maybe other means.
[20:33] <Guido1> Bashing-om: how can i do it with test disk? i only see a way to recover partitions
[20:34] <Bashing-om> Guido1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery ; Recover deleted files in ubuntu.
[20:35] <_2_abbsicle> n
[20:35] <_2_abbsicle> hi is anybody there
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> _2_abbsicle  it works, we see you
[20:36] <Beldar> _2_abbsicle, 1700 or so you have a support need?
[20:39] <ejo> Hi, I'm running 14.04, and I just added a 2nd display on my dual-DVI video card for the first time.  It resulted in a kernel panic.
[20:40] <ejo> The system won't get all the way through booting when the 2nd display is plugged in, and if I boot without it and plug it in it crashes then too.
[20:40] <delt> ouch
[20:40] <ejo> Where to start with this?
[20:40] <delt> what video card is that?
[20:40] <ejo> I say "kernel panic" because I was able to catch those words on the screen in the few messages during the failed boots.
[20:40] <ejo> it's an ATI several years old.  14.04 settings window reports no special drivers are in use.
[20:40] <ejo> (or available)
[20:41] <SilverSlimer> hey guys
[20:41] <ejo> I think a Radeon 4970 if i remember clearly.
[20:41] <Beldar> ejo, Always be aware linux is not windows, not even relevant most of the time.
[20:41] <SilverSlimer> anyone notice that Evolution, in 14.04, automatically corrects addresses in the To: field? Like if you put<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it'll automatically "correct" to moron, @lame.com
[20:42] <ejo> Beldar: you lost me there... of course Linux is not Windows -- ?
[20:42] <ejo> not sure what your focus was in stating that
[20:42] <Beldar> ejo, You used an example of no driver needed in windows, not relevant
[20:42] <ejo> I did not refer to windows at all.
[20:42] <delt> ejo: haven't used ati cards in the past like...15 years, so i can't really be of much help
[20:43] <delt> 14.04 settings window
[20:43] <ejo> Beldar, if you mean the operating system known as "Windows", I was not referring to that in any way.
[20:43] <ejo> yes, delt.
[20:43] <Beldar> ejo, Ah you are right, I miss read my bad. Happens so often here is all.
[20:43] <ejo> thanks. no problem
[20:43] <ejo> understandable.
[20:43] <ejo> This same video card has run 2 monitors before under 13.04 and 12.10.
[20:44] <delt> ejo: does the same happen from a livecd?
[20:44] <ejo> This is the first time I've had one around to try with 14.04.
[20:44] <CherryWorm> hey guys, does anybody know how to install grub2-efi with the ubuntu isntallation?
[20:44] <ejo> delt, I can go and try that and find out.
[20:44] <Beldar> !uefi | CherryWorm
[20:44] <ma> i need help
[20:44] <ejo> delt, would the main point of testing with booting from a live CD be to check the possibility that some of my installed software is the cause?
[20:45] <CherryWorm> i alreeady read that, do i have to start the live cd in efi mode?
[20:45] <Beldar> CherryWorm, more good info, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[20:45] <CherryWorm> i can choose in my bios whether i want to have legacy suppor tor not
[20:45] <Beldar> CherryWorm, THe link addresses that
[20:45] <CherryWorm> thx
[20:45] <delt> ejo: i'd try livecd's from various distro's (if you have them and/or don't mind dl'ing them)
[20:46] <Beldar> the uefi link and the forums to I believe. CherryWorm
[20:46] <ejo> sounds good, delt.  but if I find one where it works, what do I conclude?
[20:46] <vifino> Uefi breaks world. :P
[20:46] <Beldar> CherryWorm, Have you imaged/cloned windows off the HD?
[20:47] <delt> ejo: what brand motherboard?
[20:47] <ejo> It's an eVGA based on the Intel x58 chipset, 2009-ish.  i7-920 cpu
[20:48] <CherryWorm> no i have not yet
[20:49] <CherryWorm> but ih ave one major prblem: i already tried booting the stick in efi mode, tho it gives me an error and then if i select anything it jsut shows me a black screen
[20:49] <Beldar> CherryWorm, I would, people do get nice door stoppers in this area, and loose the windows altogether by making mistakes is all, cover your booty.
[20:49] <Guido1> Bashing-om: or is there any option to get an older version of the same file with libre office?
[20:50] <delt> ejo: so the only distro/version that causes a kernel panic with 2 monitors is ubuntu 14.04?
[20:50] <Bashing-om> ejo: AMD has dropped support for all 2X/3X/4X series of cards, Open source driver is your best bet.
[20:50] <ejo> delt: As far as I have seen, that's right.  I definitely did not have this problem with 12.04 through 13.10.
[20:50] <CherryWorm> it is something like: could not open: \efi\Boo1()i think\fallback.elf:anumber
[20:51] <CherryWorm> it is propably \efi\boot\fallback.elf
[20:51] <ejo> Bashing-om: I believe I'm on the open source driver if my system reports no proprietary drivers are in use or available?
[20:51] <CherryWorm> it only falshes on the screen for like a second, then it disappears and the menu is displayed
[20:52] <delt> ejo: i'd first try if the livecd gives the same results, and then also from "related" distros like xubuntu/ubuntu studio/etc. versions 14.04
[20:52] <ejo> I did not install fglrx or anything, just a clean install of 14.04 fairly recently.
[20:52] <CherryWorm> does somebody know what this error means and how to solve it?
[20:52] <CherryWorm> i used a 64 bit 14.04 iso
[20:53] <ejo> delt: yes, I will do that.  I just am curious what I should conclude if I find a distro that works.  Is it just that that will be valuable data if or when I make a bug report?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Guido1: Not having used 'Libre Ofice" I can not advise. Many times an application does make "backup" copies. You can try the find command - with the wild card character '*" -  and see what it finds.
[20:53] <ejo> I don't have a solid idea of what I would report a bug on -- what package or what.
[20:53] <k1l> !bug | ejo report  a bug and see what the specialists say to that
[20:53] <CherryWorm> can anybody help with this error? it is the only thing which prevents me from installing ubuntu propably
[20:53] <k1l> ejo: maybe its a kernel bug or something
[20:54] <ejo> k1l: I suppose so.  How to report a kernel bug with the system that looks for a package name?  Do you just type in 'kernel' as the name?
[20:54] <Guido1> Bashing-om: there is one backup but it's corrupted too :-S - both files are 0 kb
[20:54] <delt> ejo: might be a bug in the kernel, in X11, in the display manager, etc... knowing what works and what doesn't will help a lot in finding where the problem is
[20:54] <Guido1> Bashing-om: and testdisk does not mention odt in the possible files
[20:55] <k1l> ejo: linux-image. but i would first report the bug against the driver you are running. like fglrx if installed
[20:55] <skinux> Is there a way to set Ubuntu to install software to system directories on a second partition, while still having presently installed software functioning and managable where they're located now?
[20:55] <ejo> ok thanks for now... I will test various distros next via live CD (usb stick actually)
[20:55] <CherryWorm> the file \efi\boot\fallback.elf does not even exist on my disc
[20:55] <ejo> k1l: no, fglrx not installed.
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Guido1: so long as the sector that the original file exits on has not been over written, there is a chance to recover it. But one would have to resort to "recovery" tools.
[20:56] <k1l> ejo: did you try with fglrx (if its an ati)
[20:56] <msrd0> CherryWorm: sure that this is correct? first its /boot/efi and second on linux its a / and not a \
[20:56] <Guido1> Bashing-om: jea, but which one? testdisk seams to be a recovery tool, but nit to support finding of odt files
[20:57] <shortcut> goodevening everyone. how are you all today?
[20:57] <ejo> k1l: 14.04's "Software & Updates" settings dialogue reports no additional or proprietary drivers available. So I was guessing that it would not be wise to try fglrx since it is no longer showing up in there as it used to in previous Ubuntu versions.
[20:57] <ejo> ... but i could try it anyway
[20:57] <Bashing-om> ejo: You can look at what the system has loaded ( if any) for a driver -> sudo lshw -C display < look in the xonfifure line for "radeon".
[20:57] <CherryWorm> guys, pls help me, im trying to install a 65 bit 14.04 version of ubuntu in efi mode, tho it gives me an error message like this: Could not open: \efi\boot\fallback.elf
[20:57] <k1l> ejo: depends on your card still supported by ati
[20:57] <CherryWorm> this file does not exist on my disc
[20:58] <ejo> Bashing-om: cool, have forgotten that since I last had to mess with video problems a couple years ago.
[20:58] <ejo> k1l: it's no longer supported, as Bashing-om just mentioned above.
[20:58] <Beldar> CherryWorm, There only a few on here that know this UEFI stuff, so just be aware.
[20:58] <Guido1> Bashing-om: mean Foremost and photorec
[20:58] <venividivici> Hey. Just installed ubuntu 14.0.4  Installed okay, but I'm guessing the GPU driver wasn't detected or installed correctly; via s3g chrome pro (iirc)  Its running like a slideshow.  I found a .deb package "openchrome", opened with the default app.  Whats next if I'm going to install a display driver (basic standard install)
[20:59] <skinux> My real problem is: Within a single week, Ubuntu was complaining about low disk space. Each day warning about less space than day before. Fourth day low space warning said there was ~800MB more than previous days. Since then warnings are variant between 1.1G to less than 400MB available. I've removed several softwares and even removed Texlive documentation trying to solve this issue
[20:59] <Bashing-om> ejo: O have many many times had to resue others ssytems when they tried to install the FGLRX drivers when no support is any longer provided.
[20:59] <Beldar> CherryWorm, And I mean on here in general
[20:59] <holstein> venividivici: the openchrome driver is included in the kernel
[20:59] <shortcut> does a kind soul have a moment of his of her time plz? i need to ask for a few steps i need to take,kinda like a to do list. and i am a beginner.
[20:59] <ejo> Bashing-om: yes, my own experience with fglrx on 12.x and 13.x was not very encouraging.
[20:59] <k1l> venividivici: that sounds like its a very slow system anyway. i would suggest to try lubuntu since its more lightweight
[20:59] <holstein> venividivici: chrome support is typically bad
[20:59] <tabasco> how do I find out whether my connection is using dhcp?
[21:00] <ejo> Bashing-om and k1l: yep, the installed driver is just 'radeon', which I believe is the open-source driver for ATI cards.
[21:00] <Beldar> shortcut, You will know if you actually post the issue. ;)
[21:00] <holstein> venividivici: as suggested above, on my chrome hardware, i use lxde
[21:00] <k1l> ejo: yep
[21:00] <venividivici> holstein: 2.2ghz p4c, 2gb ram... shouldn't be a prob.  Win7 ult 32 certainly runs quick enough
[21:00] <shortcut> Beldar: offcourse how silly of me.
[21:00] <k1l> venividivici: yes, with drivers delivered for windows. that is a difference
[21:01] <gnu__mpx> chat on me tor chat rpq2vhojg5nzzztw
[21:01] <holstein> venividivici: the windows support is irrelevant, since you were promised windows support.. if the vendor promised linux support, you whouldnt have any issue
[21:01] <k1l> gnu__mpx: dont spam in here
[21:01] <gnu__mpx> i dont spam
[21:01] <Beldar> shortcut, Never hurts to be sensitive to the environment. ;)
[21:01] <venividivici> holstein:  no prob.. so you mentioned openchrome is included.. any reason why the defaultdriver in etc/x11 would be lightdm then?
[21:02] <bekks> venividivici: lightdm is not a driver.
[21:02] <k1l> venividivici: lightdm is not a driver. its a Display Manager. its basically the login screen which starts the desktop for you
[21:02] <venividivici> thats cool.. where am I going to look to see where the driver is configured?
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Guido1: I know of no easy way to recover a lost file/ most advise to clone the hard drive, recover all the files and locate the one you want from the cloned image.
[21:03] <gnu__mpx> olgg in wallpaper chane in ubuntu 12.04 help
[21:03] <ejo> OK, i'm off to try various distros via LiveCD to try to chase this 2-display crash down.
[21:03] <Guido1> Bashing-om: photorec did found the file even so it does not mention odt as a supported file type. thank you
[21:03] <shortcut> Beldar: i have a laptop that is in dual boot mode,with win7. so i decided i'm gonna switch to ubuntu 12.04.what is the easyest way to do this correctly? and by any chance can you point me towards a wiki on how to do this myself?
[21:04] <Beldar> shortcut, You want windows gone?
[21:04] <shortcut> yes sir
[21:04] <France18>  You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1p5sZAr
[21:04] <venividivici> k1l:  where might I find where the system configuration for the gpu driver is?  a path would be helpful
[21:05] <Beldar> shortcut, Okay, I would dualboot to be sure, but all you have to do is boot and choose the whole HD, to wipe windows and have ubuntu.
[21:05] <Beldar> on the install
[21:05] <gnu__mpx> hello
[21:05] <Beldar> shortcut, That will wipe the HD, so if you need anything there back it up externally.
[21:06] <reisio> hello gnu__mpx
[21:06] <shortcut> Beldar can i take an image of my ubuntu? and then wipe everything and re-install the iso?
[21:06] <gnu__mpx> hei i want to have change the wallpaper in log in on ubuntu 12.o4
[21:07] <reisio> shortcut: yeah, but what for?
[21:07] <Beldar> shortcut, what iso?
[21:07] <shortcut> ehhhhm i'm not sure.
[21:07] <reisio> gnu__mpx: ls /etc/ | grep -i lightdm
[21:08] <Beldar> shortcut, Are you thinking you might want widows again at some point?
[21:08] <Beldar> windows*
[21:08] <shortcut> nope.
[21:08] <shortcut> it needs to go
[21:09] <reisio> so the goal is to remove Windows?
[21:09] <Beldar> "it's got to go.....godzilla"
[21:09] <gnu__mpx> reisio thanke you,you are a good man can we chat on tor chat my id is rpq2vhojg5nzzztw
[21:09] <k1l> gnu__mpx: stop that.
[21:09] <CherryWorm> for anybody wondering: it looks like i have to add "acpi_backlight=vendor" to the boot command line
[21:09] <CherryWorm> ill try that out now
[21:10] <gnu__mpx> k1l shut up im not talking on you
[21:10] <shortcut_> Beldar: the windows keeps bsod'ing on me. and both my browser in ubuntu are constantly crashing
[21:10] <Beldar> CherryWorm, Be careful in just adding a what works for you, not needed here without a distinct explanation, like w wiki would
[21:11] <holstein> shortcut_: maybe you have failing hardware
[21:11] <Beldar> shortcut_, Ubuntu on?
[21:12] <shortcut_> what do you mean? on ?
[21:12] <Beldar> shortcut_, bsod have a code, worth looking up.
[21:12] <shortcut_> my machine is a HP
[21:12] <shortcut_> bleu screen of death
[21:12] <Beldar> shortcut_, Were is this ubuntu, you have so far asked about installing it?
[21:12] <Beldar> live cd?
[21:13] <Beldar> err dvd or usb
[21:13] <shortcut_> no i haven't done anything yet
[21:13] <shortcut_> wubi installer
[21:13] <Beldar> shortcut_, Ah wubi.
[21:14] <bekks> shortcut_: Wubi is not considered to be used for anything else than testing.
[21:14] <Beldar> shortcut_, So a wubi install, you have to be really clear here.
[21:15] <gomaaz> hi there
[21:19] <shortcut_> srr Beldar i keep disconnecting
[21:19] <shortcut_>  beldar: this was what i had in mind with my limited knowledge of Linux. i wanted to remove everything but first back up ubuntu. then install it on the empty drive. is this a good plan? or am inot doing it right?
[21:22] <Beldar> shortcut_, You can migrate that wubi to a partition, I would not do it however without being prepared for anything to happen is all. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[21:23] <adamcunnington> does anyone know what exceptions json load can throw? the docs don't mention, attributeerror will be raised if you a pass an object in that doesn't support a .read() attribute
[21:23] <Heartbeats> hey i can't get java working on my ubuntu 64bit, i have the quick java plugin on firefox, ice tea failed to install. is anyone familiar with this program
[21:23] <shortcut_> wow thanks man. has anyone told you recently that you rock? well you do.
[21:23] <Heartbeats> i mean proble..
[21:23] <Heartbeats> m
[21:23] <adamcunnington> what about if the file is in a format it can't read? what exception is thrown then?
[21:24] <Heartbeats> thank shortcut_
[21:24] <Heartbeats> thanks*
[21:24] <shortcut_> brb after reas
[21:24] <shortcut_> *read
[21:25] <jarnold> greetings. anyone familiar with issue where bluetooth settings detects & connects to a headset, but sound settings do not see the headset
[21:29] <Beldar> shortcut_, Heh, just my musician friends. ;)
[21:30] <shortcut_> Beldar: i think this something i may not be prepared for. here's what i was thinking.i 'm just gonna back up my files images music movies docs etc.... and write a list of all the software that is on it and then do the wipe and do a fresh install.
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> jarnold  use blueman, it has helped me many times too
[21:31] <Beldar> shortcut_, Yeah, probably the best move, there are limitations to how many partitions on a single HD if primary.
[21:32] <shortcut_> Beldar: most importantly my own limitation lol
[21:33] <Beldar> shortcut_, youcan make a list of what's installed with dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages and use it to load them on the install, if you have all the repos needed.
[21:33] <shortcut_> wow cool
[21:33] <Beldar> upon install*
[21:34] <Beldar> shortcut_, THat will put a my-packages in home to save, it is a script
[21:38] <shortcut_> Beldar: i don't want to be "that guy" that keeps begging to hold my hand for,especially after you have been already so helpsull. but can you help get a tutorial or wiki? i think i'm going to need it for sure.
[21:38] <trndr> shortcut_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366
[21:39] <shortcut_> thats it thank you trndr
[21:40] <shortcut_> thank you all of you
[21:41] <adamcunnington> for logging critical error messages, should you except the expected exception, log a message and then re-raise it?
[21:43] <raggg> compiz just crashed when i unplugged an external monitor, i chose to send info to ubuntu, is there a way I can see the same log/error output file?
[21:46] <adamcunnington> for logging critical error messages, should you except the expected exception, log a message and then re-raise it?
[21:47] <Trudko_> Guys best way how to synchronize two PC with Ubuntu? I would like to have same copy more or less. I guess that would mean having same settings, packages, files
[21:48] <bmuk> Trudko_: is one of them much more powerfull than the others?
[21:48] <k1l> Trudko_: make images
[21:48] <bmuk> Trudko_: I have a friend who made a thickclient script for arch, I could see what I could do to work ubuntu into it
[21:49] <k1l> or sync the stuff you want to be synced with rsync over ssh or such
[21:51] <Trudko_> bmuk: well one is laptop , second is desktop pc so pc is bit more powerful
[21:52] <Trudko_> k1l: well I want it to be automatic
[21:52] <bmuk> I want to use my phone as an extension of my desktop; something like what I imagine Ubuntu Touch will be. What are my options right now? I'm already using unified remote but I would like to see other options
[21:52] <bmuk> Trudko_: a thick client would stream the OS over the network, but after it's downloaded you would use the hardware you're on
[21:54] <gry-> I ran into this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453831/help-online-upgrade-from-12-04-to-14-04-stuck . Then I closed off the install and run into other problems: https://pastee.org/9meyg
[21:54] <Trudko_> bmuk not sure how that would work
[21:54] <bmuk> you would boot into your NIC card, it's called PXE boot
[21:55] <k1l> gry: why -d?
[21:55] <bmuk> then you would log in to your user account and everything would be stored on the server
[21:55] <bmuk> but it would perform well because it is using local hardware
[21:55] <k1l> gry: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?
[21:56] <gry-> k1l, -d to upgrade from one release to another one. 14.04.
[21:56] <k1l> gry: -d is for developer release
[21:56] <raggg> is there a way to view log files with human readeable time stamps?
[21:56] <k1l> if your system thinks it is 14.04 it will uogade to 14.10
 gry: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?
[21:56] <gry-> k1l, 14.04.
[21:57] <gry-> k1l, without -d, it says no new release found.
[21:57] <k1l> gry: please pastebin the "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:57] <k1l> gry: you want upgrade to 14.10?
[21:57] <gry-> k1l, no, to 14.04
[21:58] <gry-> k1l, https://pastee.org/468ce
[21:58] <k1l> gry: when lsb_release -r tells you you are already on 14.04 there is no need to upgrade :)
[21:58] <gry-> k1l, but like you see in https://pastee.org/9meyg, the upgrade is halfway through, and apt refuses to fix it properly
[21:58] <k1l> gry: and as you can see in your first paste the -d bring you to 14.10 aka utopic
[21:59] <gry-> ok, I got that
[21:59] <k1l> authenticate 'utopic.tar.gz' against 'utopic.tar.gz.gpg'
[21:59] <k1l> just run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:59] <k1l> that will bring you all 14.04 stuff that is needed
[22:00] <gry-> I'm on it
[22:00] <gry-> hope it wouldn't download again as it already downloaded stuff before
[22:01] <gry-> nope, same issues https://pastee.org/zx8j5
[22:02] <k1l> sudo apt-get install -f
[22:02] <gry-> k1l, https://pastee.org/q73gz sudo apt-get install -f
[22:04] <gry-> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:04] <gry-> I specifically don't like that line
[22:04] <k1l> you have other package manager stuff opened?
[22:05] <gry-> killed some leftovers from the uograde, it started working
[22:05] <segundo> missing the wifi icon on the panel xfce
[22:06] <segundo> anyone how know rescue?
[22:06] <gry-> hello, try adding 'wavelan' to the panel
[22:06] <gry-> right click it, panel, add new items
[22:07] <segundo> missing the wifi icon on the panel xfceanyone how know rescue?
[22:07] <gry-> I just told you the answer
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> gry-  put the name of the person in front of your comment
[22:15] <segundo> gry-, wavelan is a app?
[22:15] <gry> it is a panel applet
[22:15] <chercheur> hello
[22:16] <segundo> ah, ok
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> gry-  type seg [tab] and see what happens
[22:16] <gry> yup, I do that when there's a bit more folks in the room :)
[22:17] <segundo> am installing
[22:17] <segundo> thank you
[22:17] <gry> ok
[22:18] <ques> Hi, how do i disable Virtualbox network interfaces (adapters) on ubuntu? thanks in advance
[22:19] <k1l> !away > megabit|away
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> ques  in the machine's settings: Network - uncheck 'enable adapter'
[22:21] <gre-> i have an asus x750L and i have BIG problems with Ubuntu, touchpad isn't detected and FN+1-12 keys aren't too
[22:21] <gre-> Please i really need some help..
[22:22] <ques> thanks monkey
[22:26] <gre-> Nobody?
[22:26] <gre-> nobody met same problems with an asus?
[22:26] <gre-> no touchpad and no fn keys enable
[22:26] <gry> is it a zenbook or not?
[22:27] <gre-> it is not
[22:27] <gry> ok
[22:27] <gre-> its a notebook pc
[22:28] <gre-> X750LB
[22:28] <gbonics> hey all
[22:28] <gre-> i just bought it today
[22:28] <vilambit> how do I fix resume working with the nouveau driver on 14.04?
[22:28] <gre-> and i can't use it
[22:29] <gry> is xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed?
[22:29] <gre-> because to enable wireless i have to press fn+2
[22:29] <gre-> or i can't
[22:29] <gbonics> I have a problem with WiFi on a Lenovo Yoga 2
[22:30] <k1l> gre-: stop thinking about the fn keys
[22:30] <k1l> gre-: get to know if the wifi chip is supported or if it needs some extra work.
[22:30] <gry> the fn keys are rather useful for switching to the ttys though
[22:30] <gre-> its supported
[22:31] <k1l> gre-: then is it seen n "rfkill list" ?
[22:31] <gry> good; try installing the thing that I mentioned if not already
[22:31] <gre-> and yes gry
[22:31] <gry> ok, I'll let k1l lead, that's a better approach :)
[22:31] <gre-> input-synaptics is installed
[22:31] <gre-> k1l: nothing into
[22:32] <k1l> then get to know which module is needed to be loaded and see if you need another package for that etc
[22:32] <gbonics> gre what computer do you have
[22:32] <gre-> asus X750LB
[22:32] <gbonics> no wifi?
[22:33] <gbonics> 14.04
[22:33] <gre-> wifi yes but to enable it i have to press fn+2 and i can't press any fn, no touchpad as well
[22:33] <gre-> 14.04 yes
[22:33] <gre-> k1l: where can i know it ?
[22:34] <gbonics> anyone have wifi success with a yoga 2
[22:34] <gre-> i read many threads..
[22:34] <gre-> people are crying for the same problem
[22:35] <gre-> i read there is a driver from asus but only for windows
[22:35] <gre-> ATK package
[22:35] <gre-> its the only way to fix my issue...
[22:35] <gre-> but i don't want to back to win8, indeed
[22:36] <gbonics> neither do i
[22:36] <whirlpool> why not?
[22:37] <gbonics> I'm a *nix guy
[22:37] <gbonics> I only need windows for some admin tools
[22:39] <whirlpool> freebsd?
[22:40] <vilambit> how do I fix resume working with the nouveau driver on 14.04?
[22:40] <nahtnam> Hello. I am running 14.04 desktop and for some random reason its reading everything off my screen for me. How can I turn it off?
[22:41] <nahtnam> Its annoying as hell!
[22:41] <vilambit> pkill -9 orca
[22:41] <k1l> nahtnam: alt+super+s
[22:41] <nahtnam> Thanks guys! :)
[22:44] <fego> 1
[22:50] <segundo> applet which to measure the signal strength of wifi?
[22:51] <segundo> in panel of xfce
[22:52] <segundo> anyone help me?
[22:54] <k1l> segundo: try this? http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-wavelan-plugin (first google result)
[22:55] <segundo> how to run it?
[22:56] <gry> k1l, https://pastee.org/yw5jz
[22:56] <gry> segundo, right click it, panel, add new items, wavelan
[22:56] <k1l> segundo: see the documentation on the projects side
[22:56] <gry> I believe it's packaged though so if it's not in the list then there should be a package
[22:57] <gry> k1l, the apt-get install -f got stuck on this one: https://pastee.org/yw5jz
[22:57] <k1l> su: Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session
[22:58] <k1l> there seems to be a lot wrong on that system :/
[22:58] <gry> that's what happens when someone makes a release and doesn't take it into account that users like gry will have some broken packages which would abort the installer
[22:59] <segundo> it does not work
[22:59] <segundo> does not show strength on the panel icon
[23:00] <gry> I logged in as root (a horrid thing to do) and it complains about dpkg-divert only, not about the su, now
[23:00] <ikonia> gry: what happened with your wireless card ?
[23:00] <ikonia> did you do the upgrade, or just the kernel ?
[23:00] <gry> ikonia: I'm doing the upgrade and it's stuck half-way through so I'm afraid that I'll need to do a clean install
[23:00] <k1l> gry: ubuntu has automated testing for the upgrades. but that includes only the official ubuntu packages and not stuff that is changed.
[23:00] <ikonia> gry: how very frustrating
[23:01] <gry> ikonia: (I ran into this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453831/help-online-upgrade-from-12-04-to-14-04-stuck . Then I closed off the install and run into other problems: https://pastee.org/9meyg) (did without -d, rant into https://pastee.org/zx8j5) (https://pastee.org/yw5jz)
[23:02] <gry> k1l: yes, I'm assuming it's some perl package which isn't builtin which had a problem and wasn't tested.. it's from the repos though
[23:03] <ikonia> I'm still not convinced by the upgrade process.
[23:04] <Isabella18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1otJNif
[23:04] <daftykins> ikonia: being in here certainly doesn't give upgrades much positive press, does it? :)
[23:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Does anyone know about awesome wm?
[23:05] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: ask your actual question :)
[23:05] <k1l> !awesome | GuyThatNeedsHelp
[23:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> !awesome
[23:05] <ikonia> daftykins: I think in a very controlled situation/case with someone who understands the process/risks it's quite solid, but blindly hitting upgrade, I'm still not comfortable with it
 Sorry, I don't know anything about awesome
[23:05] <ikonia> and to be honest, I don't think it's needed as a process
[23:06] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Welp, in the lua script "Debian menu" google chrome is missing
[23:06] <gry> ikonia: what is not needed as a process?
[23:06] <ikonia> gry: the upgrade process
[23:07] <TJ-> gry: "su: Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session" is a libpam issue... possibly stuck inbetween two states
[23:07] <gry> ikonia: then people would have to burn CDs all the time
[23:07] <ikonia> gry: once every 5 years......
[23:07] <gry> heh
[23:08] <gry> to think of it, if it doesn't fix itself then I'll probably have to do that
[23:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Anyone know where google chrome is installed?
[23:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Debian_menu["Debian_Applications_Network_Web"] = {
[23:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp>         {"Google Chrome", }
[23:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> }
[23:08] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp: how did you install it ?
[23:08] <gry> in my case it is in /usr/bin/chromium-browser
[23:09] <ikonia> gry: thats the official google repo package isn't it ?
[23:09] <TJ-> gry: this comment on an old 'same' bug may well help you get past the current issue and then fix things afterwards  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+bug/259867/comments/22
[23:09] <natediddy> I think it is in /opt/google
[23:09] <sodomite> "which chrome"
[23:09] <gry> yes
[23:09] <natediddy> there's a link to the /opt location in /usr/bin
[23:09] <natediddy> for chrome
[23:10] <pdo_fn14> !mint
[23:10] <gry> TJ-: so if I can authenticate, I just do the numbered steps right? or do I still need to do the unnumbered step in the first paragraph as well?
[23:12] <TJ-> gry: If you can boot into recovery, then do the 'Alternatively' instruction paragraph
[23:13] <gry> TJ-: I'm logged in right now -- assuming the pam_permit step is also needed so will do it as well
[23:14] <TJ-> gry: that's one of the key steps, yes. Bear in mind that bug report is from a long time ago, so the *precise* steps may need 'consideration' if they don't match what you find in "common-session"
[23:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HALP
[23:32] <sudormrf> GuyThatNeedsHelp, what's up?
[23:32] <sudormrf> !ask | GuyThatNeedsHelp
[23:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Lua script for the menu of the awesome wm
[23:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i want google chrome to appear in the menu
[23:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> and i need the directory for google chrome
[23:33] <ROODAY> can anyone help me with pipelight?
[23:34] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: whereis google-chrome
[23:34] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: in a your shell
[23:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Thats what i'm asking
[23:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Debian_menu["Debian_Applications_Network_Web"] = {
[23:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> 	{"Google Chrome", "" }
[23:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> }
[23:35] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: shadowe989 just told you a command. run it.
[23:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I LOVE U
[23:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> SHADOWE
[23:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i think
[23:36] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Good luck with your project. :)
[23:36] <ROODAY> does anyone here have any experience with pipelight?
[23:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HACKED google-chrome: /usr/bin/google-chrome /usr/bin/X11/google-chrome /usr/share/man/man1/google-chrome.1
[23:37] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: its /usr/bin/google-chrome
[23:37] <lasers> cree
[23:37] <natediddy> GuyThatNeedsHelp, those are symlinks. I think it's actually in /opt/google/chrome
[23:38] <shadowe989> natediddy: but your path wont be set to /opt i think hes making a .deb package for lua program
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> fat@fatyt:/opt/google/chrome$ l
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> chrome*                 libppGoogleNaClPluginChrome.so  product_logo_22.png
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> chrome_100_percent.pak  libudev.so.0@                   product_logo_24.png
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> chrome-sandbox*         libwidevinecdmadapter.so        product_logo_256.png
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> cron/                   libwidevinecdm.so               product_logo_32.png
[23:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> default-app-block       locales/                        product_logo_32.xpm
[23:38] <unopaste> GuyThatNeedsHelp you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:39] <shadowe989> GuyThatNeedsHelp: use paste.ubuntu.com
[23:39] <natediddy> shadowe989, yeah you're right, my bad
[23:40] <shadowe989> natediddy: it happens :)
[23:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> How would i do this?
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Debian_menu["Debian_Applications_Network_Web"] = {
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> 	{"Google Chrome", "" }
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> }
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I don't know anything about lua
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> an example
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> {"Wireshark","/usr/bin/wireshark","/usr/share/pixmaps/wsicon32.xpm"},
[23:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> }
[23:42] <rio_zenta> Hello
[23:42] <natediddy> GuyThatNeedsHelp, put the path to google-chrome in the second field after Google-Chrome
[23:42] <sp0on> hello
[23:42] <skinux> Does 'du' utility count amount of spaced used by files in directories of "cloud drives" (e.g. DropBox, Ubuntu One)?
[23:42] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> which one is the real path?
[23:43] <natediddy> GuyThatNeedsHelp, {"Google-Chrome", "/ur/bin/google-chrome"}
[23:43] <natediddy> "/usr/bin/google-chrome"
[23:43] <rooday_> hey can anyone help with pipelight?
[23:44] <rooday_> please?
[23:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> THANK YOU NATEDIDDY
[23:44] <rio_zenta> which line of text do I change in the preseed.config file so that I can install ubuntu server through wubi?
[23:45] <ikonia> you don't use wubi
[23:45] <rooday_> ?
[23:46] <rio_zenta> ikonia: Under my circumstances, wubi is the only option
[23:46] <natediddy> GuyThatNeedsHelp, no problem, good luck
[23:46] <ikonia> rio_zenta: then you need to focus on changing your situation
[23:46] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I add a drive to the fstab from a gui?  (or step by step instruction on how to do it with a GUID)
[23:46] <rio_zenta> ikonia: The situation is out of my control, this is my only option
[23:47] <rooday_> can anyone help me install pipelight?
[23:47] <ikonia> rio_zenta: then feedback that it is not an acceptable situaiton
[23:47] <rooday_> i tried following the instructions on the fsd site
[23:47] <pfifo> when I turn the volume up, my output starts switching between headphone and analog out. and when I turn the volume up on my mixstation the input starts switching from line in to rear mic to front mic. This is completly killing me here. What can I do to resolve this? Why cant pulse audio and alsa just do everything manually instead of trying to decide what I the administrator decide is best? Im on 12.04
[23:47] <rooday_> but pipelight still wont work
[23:48] <daftykins> rio_zenta: genuinely, something is seriously wrong if you believe WUBI to be your only avenue.
[23:49] <rio_zenta> daftykins: I need an ubuntu-server system on an old winXP system and I cannot remove the winXP, as it contains important software that I use.
[23:49] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you can still repartition
[23:49] <ikonia> you could buy a second disk
[23:49] <ikonia> you could buy/use a different machine
[23:50] <ikonia> there are many options that are not wubi
[23:50] <daftykins> +10 to ikonia
[23:50] <rio_zenta> ikonia: I've read that installing ubuntu after winXP is not a good idea.
[23:51] <jleems86> does anyone want to offer some btrfs-related advice?
[23:51] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you've read wrong
[23:51] <jleems86> rio_zenta: if your wiping the XP, i don't see how it could possibly interfere with the new Ubuntu install
[23:51] <rio_zenta> What exactly do you mean when you say that I can install ubuntu onto a second disk? Is it even possible to boot from 2 disks?
[23:52] <ikonia> rio_zenta: your bios dictates where to boot from
[23:52] <rio_zenta> jleems86: I am restricted in being unable to wipe winXP. I'd do it if I could, but this enterprise software doesn't like linux (I've tried asking them).
[23:52] <jleems86> i just joined, i don't think i'm aware of the context of your situation
[23:52] <ikonia> rio_zenta: if this machine is so important, why are you messing around with it ?
[23:53] <rio_zenta> ikonia, I don't recall a BIOS allowing one to boot from 2 HDDs, but perhaps I am wrong there.
[23:53] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you can always put the boot loader on the first disk to allow it to select the first/second disk
[23:53] <ikonia> rio_zenta: but if this XP box is so critical, why are you considering doing anything to it
[23:53] <rio_zenta> ikonia, that is the reason why I am doing a wubi install. I don't have another system and wubi is the "safe" option. it won't be as risky as a partition.
[23:53] <ikonia> rio_zenta: wubi is not safe at all
[23:53] <jleems86> rio_zenta: the bios can only load the boot-loader from a single disk, but I think the boot-loader can load the OS from any disk it can read in the system
[23:54] <ikonia> rio_zenta: if this machine is so important - you should not be doing anything form it
[23:54] <shadowe989_afk> ikonia: I agree 100%
[23:54] <jleems86> what exactly are you trying to accomplish rio_zenta ?
[23:54] <c4rt3r> anyone using FON WiFi here?
[23:55] <jleems86> c4rt3r: is FON a manufacturer brand?
[23:55] <hicap> I have ubuntu 14.04 and I want to install a 32 bit program, but the ubuntu is 64 bit
[23:55] <hicap> is there some magic to allow for that?
[23:55] <c4rt3r> ermm not really jleems86 its like a router sharing program
[23:55] <rio_zenta> jleems86: I need a small part-time server to run a couple of experiments on. Mainly to test some enterprise software. It will have minimal use beyond that.
[23:56] <rooday_> ???????????
[23:56] <rooday_> anyone?
[23:56] <gry> what?
[23:56] <nith1210> hicap: There is magic, it should be transparent.
[23:56] <rooday_> pipelight refuses to work for me
[23:56] <rooday_> on both firefox and chromium
[23:56] <gry> what does it do instead of working?
[23:56] <rio_zenta> rooday_: What is pipelight?
[23:56] <rooday_> silverlight for ubuntu
[23:56] <hicap> nith1210 well I can't install it :(
[23:56] <rooday_> read linux*
[23:57] <hicap> ./IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
[23:57] <hicap> bash: ./IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx: No such file or directory
[23:57] <rooday_> it pretty much runs silverlight through wine and sends it to the browser
[23:57] <rooday_> it used to work for me
[23:57] <rooday_> but not it just doesnt work
[23:57] <rooday_> trying netflix takes me to the page saying what sytems are supported
[23:57] <gry> again: what does it do instead of working? can you run it from terminal and see if it gives an error message?
[23:57] <gry> oh, okay, the website complains. that's something.
[23:57] <rooday_> using a user agent switcher for windows firefox 15 and then clicking a video tells me to install firefox
[23:57] <rooday_> the thing is
[23:57] <rooday_> pipelight isnt crashing
[23:58] <rooday_> no errors either when starting
[23:58] <rooday_> when i do --enable silverlight it says enabled without anything else
[23:58] <gry> try asking over at #pipelight then
[23:58] <rooday_> kk
[23:58] <nith1210> hicap: That indicates you are probably in the wrong directory
[23:58] <nith1210> hicap: when you type "ls IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx" you should see the file details.
[23:58] <hicap> hicap@hicap-HP-Pavilion-dv6-Notebook-PC:~/tim/work/win7$ ls IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
[23:58] <hicap> IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
[23:59] <nith1210> hicap: "file IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx"
[23:59] <nith1210> hicap: the script might be what's giving that error
[23:59] <c4rt3r> anyone got this working in precise http://wiki.maemo.org/WISPr_Wireless_ISP_Autologin#Automated_WISPr_hotspot_login
[23:59] <hicap> file IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
[23:59] <hicap> IE11.Win7.ForLinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped