[11:16] <BennieMan> does anyone know a good program with GUI, to proxify my traffic via a socks proxy? For windows i have Proxifier.com.. but there is a similar for Linux ?
[11:16] <Lhademmor> sixpence, okay then I guess I'll try that
[11:16] <CorpseFeeder> sixpence: When I say other monitors, what I actually mean is the TV out on this laptop... and how do I make the TV mirror what is on the computer screen?
[11:16] <Sizur> how can i delete a file like this? ?--xrw-r-- 24948 975188060 2125103 788541492 1970-03-29 14:47 module.h
[11:17] <Leon_home> how can i know what version of java installed on my ubuntu ?
[11:17] <sixpence> CorpseFeeder: Mirroring is easy, problems arise when you want to do dual-head setup. What sortf of a card/laptop you got?
[11:17] <sixpence> Leon_home: man apt-get
[11:17] <Sizur> or where can i find a solution to this deleting failure?
[11:18] <Leon_home> sixpence i cant see the version number there ?
[11:18] <stoone> Leon_home: java -version
[11:18] <sixpence> Leon_home: No, but it'll tell you the proper command for the job
[11:18] <Tarkus> whats the best way to move a partition to the beggining of the table? (creating a new partition and moving the contents from A to B, or copying the partition and pasting at the beggining (i never copied partitions before, so im not sure if its reliable and works well)).. any suggestions?
[11:19] <GreyWolfe> Hi, is there anyone that can help me solve GRUB error 13?
[11:19] <CorpseFeeder> sixpence: Its a radeon mobility 9000 thing
[11:19] <sixpence> Tarkus: Why would youw ant to do that?
[11:19] <Leon_home> i have java 1.4.2 and i need the new java 1.5 or higher . how can i update my java ?
[11:20] <Madkiss> hi all. in the gutsy-alpha, how do i start the apt-powered plugin manager for firefox?
[11:20] <Zoidfarb> leon_home, sudo apt-get update might update it, but only i the newer version is in the repositories
[11:21] <sixpence> CorpseFeeder: Wow, actually not sure.
[11:21] <Zoidfarb> leon_home, sorry that's apt-get upgrade
[11:21] <Zoidfarb> not update
[11:21] <musikgoat> ncode: reinstalled.  the only stipulation with the install is that netkit-inetd has no installation candidate, but when i install it:  Package netkit-inetd is a virtual package provided by:
[11:21] <musikgoat>   openbsd-inetd 0.20050402-6
[11:21] <musikgoat>   inetutils-inetd 2:1.5.dfsg.1-4
[11:21] <Outlander> can I apt upgrade to gutsy alpha?
[11:21] <musikgoat> i have to explicitly install one or the other
[11:21] <ncode> it works??? http://localhost:901
[11:22] <musikgoat> no
[11:22] <musikgoat> sorry, i didn't mention that
[11:22] <musikgoat> and nothing in /etc/init.d/
[11:22] <unics_> how could i install 'xen' ? when trying 'apt-get install xen' it says 'Package xen is not available, but is reffered to by another package'
[11:23] <ncode> just need netkit-inetd
[11:23] <dgjones> !gutsy | Outlander
[11:23] <ubotu> Outlander: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:23] <Zoidfarb> unics_, search in synaptic. The Xen package might have some other name.
[11:23] <ncode> install the dependences
[11:23] <unics_> Zoidfarb, i don't have synaptic
[11:24] <Sizur> the following fails with "Operation not permitted" (notice the usr dir is not under root dir. problem is with a specific file): /home$ sudo rm -Rf usr
[11:24] <ncode> musikgoat: install the dependences
[11:24] <Sizur> how can i overcome that?
[11:24] <unics_> i only have the command line, no GUI
[11:24] <stoone> unics_: apt-cache search xen
[11:24] <musikgoat> ncode: i'm installing it now
[11:24] <ncode> k
[11:24] <Tarkus> sixpence, because there is 20GB of unallocated space before the partition (i dont want to waste that, so i need to move the partition back to the beggining.)
[11:25] <Zoidfarb> Leon_home, check out this link. It should help you install the updated Sun Java package and switch it to use that instead of the free java: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[11:25] <sixpence> Tarkus: What do you mean "Before" the partition? It doesn't work that way..
[11:25] <Zoidfarb> unics_ are you running Kubuntu or something?
[11:25] <ncode> musikgoat: you already run this: sudo update-inetd --enable 'swat' ???? [dont do it]
[11:25] <musikgoat> i did
[11:25] <Zoidfarb> unics_ I don't know then. Google for how to install Xen?
[11:26] <CorpseFeeder> Anyone know how to use the TV out on a Mobility Radeon 9000 video card?
[11:26] <wapAmoeba> Hallo all
[11:26] <ncode> the dependence's are installed now ?
[11:26] <musikgoat> i just installed openbsd-inetd
[11:26] <musikgoat> testing now
[11:26] <ncode> now runit: sudo update-inetd --enable 'swat'
[11:27] <Pirate_Hunter> its so nice emulating windows through virtual box especially now that i have enough ram... now just need to figure out how to send my apps from my physical windows partition to my emulated windows & musikgoat read that page i'm just not geeky enough to pull that off :(
[11:27] <musikgoat> that was it ncode
[11:27] <musikgoat> thanks for your help
[11:27] <Faustov> hi, what might be the reason that /dev/videoX doesn't get created? I got v4l1-compat and the usb webcam's driver in lsmod, lsusb shows the webcam is connected, the driver supports it.
[11:27] <ncode> np :-)
[11:27] <Tarkus> sixpence, maybe i am not understanding something then.. im using GParted.. and i have 20GB unallocated, then 100GB partition with data, then 130GB unallocated..
[11:28] <Tarkus> sixpence, and im trying to get 100GB partition, and then 150GB unallocated.
[11:28] <sixpence> Tarkus: Ouch that could get messy. Are they both the same hdd?
[11:28] <sixpence> Tarkus: Instead of looking at gparted, do an --->   fdisk -l
[11:28] <EvaLuaTe> Zoidfarb, i'm running ubuntu 6.06 server, and that doesn't come with an DE, also i don't need one ...
[11:29] <Tarkus> sixpence, yes, i only have a single 250GB drive
[11:29] <testbox1> hi, ive got a python script that creates tables in a mysql database but when i run it it just spews out a load of command not found errors. is there anything other than just python and python-mysqldb that i need to install?
[11:29] <sixpence> Tarkus: sorry    sudo fdisk -l
[11:30] <lib_> ubotu dvorak
[11:30] <ubotu> dvorak is a keyboard layout that aims to be more comfortable and efficient alternative to the standard "QWERTY" pattern. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
[11:30] <sixpence> testbox1: Try #python channel
[11:30] <ncode> cya !!!!!!
[11:30] <mandh> i have prblem with heartbeat can any one help me
[11:30] <MenZa> mandh: See a doctor
[11:30] <MenZa> :p
[11:31] <lib_> anyon here use one-handed dvorak rhs?
[11:31] <Zoidfarb> Evaluate, try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-xen-server"
[11:31] <xerone> off topic, but anyone know how to dial the us from england?
[11:31] <mandh> MenZa, :)
[11:31] <MenZa> mandh: Sorry, had to be done.
[11:31] <MenZa> xerone: +1 <the number>
[11:31] <Zoidfarb> xerone, it's country code 01
[11:31] <Tarkus> sixpence, ok.
[11:31] <xerone> so 1 x xxx xxx xxxx
[11:32] <MenZa> Aye.
[11:32] <xerone> thanks
[11:32] <MenZa> !offtopic
[11:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:32] <MenZa> For good mesaure ^
[11:32] <MenZa> measure*
[11:32] <wapAmoeba> anyone successfully use canon 4400F scanner? I'm interested in buying a scanner, with good linux compatibility
[11:32] <xerone> ahh, thanks
[11:33] <daning> when ubuntu 7.10 come out?
[11:33] <Zoidfarb> So does anyone know how to make my monitor turn off rather than just go black when it's idle?
[11:33] <Zoidfarb> daning, October
[11:33] <daning> which day?
[11:34] <rockets> Anybody running Ubuntu on a Macbook pro and if so what's the experience been like?
[11:34] <musikgoat> Pirate_Hunter: samba can be new to setup, but if you search around all the guides, I'm sure you will find the one that you can understand the best
[11:34] <rausb0> Zoidfarb: check the dpms settings in the screen saver
[11:34] <Tarkus> sixpence, it shows the partition in there. but it doesnt start at 1.. it starts at a few thousand
[11:34] <Zoidfarb> rausb0, that sounds promising. Where would these dpms settings be that you speak of?
[11:34] <lib_> help - my extensor tendons are retreating up my arm here! anyone know how to remap an existing dvorak keyboard to a 1 handed version?
[11:34] <Sizur> xerone: dont you need a 00 prefix for outside diling? or many UK has just 0
[11:34] <rausb0> Zoidfarb: don't know excactly, i do not use gnome here.
[11:35] <xerone> Sizur: that would explain why it didnt work lol
[11:35] <xerone> so its  01 1<PHONE_NUMBER>
[11:35] <xerone> crap
[11:35] <xerone> lol
[11:35] <Zoidfarb> rausb0, thanks. I'll look around
[11:35] <Pirate_Hunter> musikgoat: yeah but i was just thinking of sending stuff to gmail drive and DVD its not geeky but does the job :( "remember im a geek in progression l0ol"
[11:35] <Sizur> if your outside prefix is 01 then yes
[11:35] <Leon_home> hello, when i am type "sudo apt-get upgrade" i get this msg : Starting Cluster LVM Daemon clvmd could not connect to cluster manager
[11:35] <Leon_home> Consult syslog for more information
[11:35] <Leon_home> invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.
[11:35] <Leon_home> dpkg: error processing clvm (--configure):
[11:35] <Leon_home>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[11:35] <Leon_home> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:35] <Leon_home>  clvm
[11:35] <Leon_home> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:36] <musikgoat> Pirate_Hunter: thats a good way to do it
[11:36] <Jonah> hi guys i've got a huge music collection but i can't play the oggs on my ipod, is there a way i can batch them all to mp3 but keep them in the folders layout they're in so i know what album is what and which artist is which etc? and also delete and replace the ogg witht he mp3? please if anyone can help... been trying to do it on my mac but after converting them it sticks them all in same folder and then itunes doesnt know which is which and where they al
[11:36] <Jonah> l belong. big mess
[11:36] <musikgoat> if your are just doing small transfers
[11:37] <Sizur> people, please, how can i cannot remove a file as a superuser. can anybody in here help?
[11:37] <Pirate_Hunter> musikgoat: lol would've thought you would be disappointed with that method... no finess
[11:37] <rausb0> Jonah: you could also use a different firmware for you ipod (depends on which ipod you have)
[11:37] <Sizur> haha dont mind the double can there
[11:37] <UselessID> Sizur: ?
[11:37] <musikgoat> Pirate_Hunter: well it does the job, so be it
[11:38] <eXSiR> Sizur: sudo rm -rf filepath/filename?
[11:38] <Sizur> sido rm -f filename doesnt work
[11:38] <Pirate_Hunter> musikgoat: ok captain will do so
[11:38] <eXSiR> not sid,o sudo
[11:38] <Sizur> i meant sudo
[11:38] <UselessID> lol
[11:38] <Pirate_Hunter> musikgoat: oops it should be arhh
[11:38] <Jonah> rausb0, well i've tried the other firmwares like rockbox and while they ok, you get half battery life and they crash frequently, would rather just convert to mp3 and stick with orig firmware if can
[11:38] <UselessID> Sizur: is there any error message?
[11:39] <Sizur> UselessID:  Operation not permitted
[11:39] <rausb0> Jonah: oh, okay. rockbox runs rather stable on my 1st gen ipod nano.
[11:39] <UselessID> Sizur: ls -l
[11:39] <musikgoat> you know I never even said it at work yesterday, and i work in tech support so i'm not suprised others said it either :-P
[11:39] <Sizur> UselessID: ?--xrw-r-- 24948 975188060 2125103 788541492 1970-03-29 14:47 module.h
[11:40] <UselessID> Sizur: chmod 777 module.h ; rm -f module.h
[11:40] <erUSUL> Jonah: lossy to lossy format convertions are a *bad* idea... anyway you can make a script to do it for you althought it will be a time consuming task (decompress-compress). Better buy a player that support ogg
[11:40] <xerone> Sizur: didn't work, number not recognised for us
[11:40] <rausb0> Sizur: which filesystem is this file on?
[11:41] <Sizur> UselessID: chmod produced: Operation not permitted
[11:41] <Sizur> rausb0: ext3
[11:41] <UselessID> oh
[11:41] <musikgoat> sudo that
[11:41] <Sizur> musikgoat: i had sudo
[11:41] <Jonah> erUSUL, oh man, i wish i'd never gone downe the ogg path now, i thought the format was great (and it is and i know it's apple's fault and all that) but i would of saved a real messy mess if i'd just ripped into mp3 with soundjuicer to start with rather than ogg...
 try 'sudo'
[11:41] <rausb0> Sizur: i guess that filesystem is damaged
[11:41] <UselessID> i see thats no owner
[11:41] <rausb0> Sizur: can you umount and fsck it?
[11:41] <UselessID> lol...
[11:41] <Sizur> UselessID: i tried sudo chown too
[11:42] <musikgoat> sudo chown root:root file.ext
[11:42] <musikgoat> oh
[11:42] <ce_metal> hay
[11:42] <Karotte> is anyone here using "tracker" on Feisty? Is it useful?
[11:42] <Sizur> rausb0: i dont have unmount command, i dotn know why
[11:42] <musikgoat> umount ?
[11:42] <rausb0> Sizur: the command is called umount, not unmount
[11:42] <Sizur> oops...
[11:43] <Sizur> i'll try the fsck now
[11:43] <user03_> d
[11:43] <Leon_home> i typed "sudo apt-get upgrade" but still me java version is 1.4.2 (i need 1.5.x) ?
[11:43] <Leon_home> me=my
[11:43] <erUSUL> Jonah: this is a proof of concept shell script that will take a dir and convert all ogg files to mp3 it finds including a one level subdir. You will loose idtags (i did not take care of it)
[11:43] <Norrel> Leon_home: which version of ubuntu?
[11:44] <erUSUL> Jonah: the actual link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37978/
[11:44] <BioNik> hi, where should i make a script that runs on every login of a certain user?
[11:44] <Leon_home> how can i check my Ubuntu version ?
[11:44] <rausb0> Leon_home: lsb_release -a
[11:44] <musikgoat> system -> about ubuntu  Leon_home
[11:45] <Sizur> rausb0: what does this mean?: umount: /dev/hda1 mount disagrees with the fstab
[11:45] <erUSUL> BioNik: call it from her ~/.bash_profile
[11:45] <Leon_home> Norrel: my ubuntu version is : 7.04 (feisty)
[11:45] <Jonah> erUSUL, oh wow thanks that's just what i need. is there a way to make it two level as i've got a music folder, then all artist names in there, then all albums inside each artist
[11:45] <Norrel> Leon_home: strange
[11:45] <dj_> Can any one help me install j2se so I can run lime wire? It gives me an error.
[11:45] <rausb0> Sizur: the partition hda1 is probably not mounted to the mount point in fstab
[11:46] <BioNik> erUSUL: does that run on every gdm login?
[11:46] <rausb0> Sizur: better use umount on the mount point, not on the block device
[11:46] <ce_metal> hy
[11:46] <ce_metal> hy
[11:46] <Sizur> rausb0: oh thanks
[11:47] <Sizur> rausb0: eh, now i have this twice: umount: /home: device is busy
[11:47] <Leon_home> mybe someone else know how to fix this problem ? i have Ubuntu 7.04 feisty with java version 1.4.2 and i want to upgrade my java to 1.5.x ?
[11:47] <ce_metal> hy
[11:47] <quietFrank> hi all I have a new dell inspiron 1520 laptop running gutsy (cause the install failed on fiesty) everything is going great excpet for audio I have found a bug (#138070) which describes the problem but dont know where to go from here
[11:48] <ce_metal> hy
[11:48] <Norrel> Leon_home: you could do it manually from java website
[11:48] <u^A> sweechay
[11:48] <rausb0> Sizur: you cannot umount /home while logged in as user
[11:48] <rausb0> Sizur: you must boot a live cd
[11:48] <Norrel> Leon_home: have you added repositorys?
[11:48] <UselessID> :)
[11:48] <Sizur> rausb0: can i simply log out and then back in as root?
[11:48] <quietFrank> the sound card is a intel 8280H which is pretty common
[11:48] <erUSUL> BioNik: iirc yes. You can use ~/.Xsession
[11:49] <Leon_home> Norrel: what is "repositorys" ?
[11:49] <rausb0> Sizur: you cannot log in as root directly in ubuntu, so /home will be busy in either case
[11:49] <Jonah> erUSUL, also how do i set it to scan the right folder with all my artists in. do i place it in the Music folder and run it from there?
[11:50] <Norrel> Leon_home: have you modified your /etc/apt/sources.list file? There are repositories
[11:50] <Leon_home> Norrel: no i didnt edited that file
[11:51] <Sizur> rausb0: if su command is working, i still cannot login as root?
[11:51] <Norrel> Leon_home if you search for java with aptitude search command, what do you get?
[11:51] <rausb0> Sizur: you mean su is working without sudo?
[11:51] <Sizur> rausb0: yes
[11:51] <Norrel> Leon_home: you might have to open new repos to get the 1.6 jdk
[11:51] <Sizur> rausb0: there was a howto somewhere that i applied
[11:51] <rausb0> Sizur: okay, then you can log in as root. but you have to log out the user
[11:52] <Leon_home> Norrel: i think it will be hard for me to do that i am new at ubuntu
[11:52] <Sizur> rausb0: i think it had to do with sudo -u or some other option
[11:52] <rausb0> Sizur: the user login keeps the /home filesystem busy
[11:52] <Norrel> Leon_home: no it's not, I'll help you.
[11:52] <Leon_home> Norrel: ok what are the steps i should do ?
[11:53] <Sizur> thanks a lot everybody, i'll go try the advised steps now
[11:54] <Leon_home> Norrel: are u here ?
[11:54] <Norrel> Leon_home: actually I think there are no jdk 1.6 in repos anyway. I have installed it manually from the website
[11:55] <kahrytan> Norrel, ever heard of getdeb.net?
[11:55] <Leon_home> ok i will try to install it manually and let you know if it works
[11:55] <Norrel> kahrytan: nope
[11:55] <SlimeyPete> Norrel, Leon_home: sun-java-jdk
[11:55] <Leon_home> Norrel: btw thanks alot for your help  :)
[11:55] <SlimeyPete> Norrel, Leon_home: sun-java6-jdk
[11:55] <kahrytan> Norrel, It is loaded with ubuntu packages
[11:55] <SlimeyPete> on Fiesty, at least.
[11:56] <Norrel> SlimeyPete: I don't have that file in repos
[11:56] <[nrx] > :)
[11:56] <SlimeyPete> Norrel: it's in Universe or Multiverse iirc
[11:57] <kahrytan> Java comes in binary format
[11:57] <Leon_home> SlimeyPete: can i install this from the Synaptic ?
[11:57] <f3trio3d2x> bL4m3: wordpress-tr.com'dan gncel srm indir
[11:58] <wingwingfly> i'm coming,linuxemacs
[11:58] <kahrytan> You guys, just download from Sun website.
[11:58] <linuxemacs> wingwingfly: welcome~
[11:58] <SlimeyPete> Leon_home: yes
[11:58] <SlimeyPete> !java
[11:58] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[11:59] <rd> hi
[11:59] <SlimeyPete> ^^ on Fiesty it's in the standard Multiverse repo, not backports
[11:59] <rd> anybody here ?
[11:59] <[nrx] > lol
[11:59] <[nrx] > there's 1131 people here :)
[12:00] <rd> k thats a large number
[12:00] <[nrx] > indeed
[12:00] <kahrytan> [nrx] , check #kubuntu
[12:00] <[nrx] > why?
[12:01] <Faustov> hi, what might be the reason that /dev/videoX doesn't get created? I got v4l1-compat and the usb webcam's driver in lsmod, lsusb shows the webcam is connected, the driver supports it.
[12:01] <kahrytan> [nrx] , compare the size
[12:01] <[nrx] > kahrytan: yeah, but this is the main support channel :)
[12:03] <Ar-Pharazon> Hello
[12:04] <[nrx] > HellDragon:
[12:04] <[nrx] > er
[12:04] <[nrx] > Hello, even
[12:04] <kahrytan> slow channel this morning
[12:04] <Ar-Pharazon> http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1905/screenshot1pz7.png Can anyone tell me why this happen and how to fix it?
[12:04] <jimcooncat> starting to play with qemu, lvm, stuff like that -- where can I find some good help on network bridging, vlan, qos?
[12:04] <[nrx] > was very busy earlier
[12:05] <Sizur> i did fsck on partition in question, and sudo chown, rm still give me Operation not permitted
[12:05] <Ar-Pharazon> hmph... *happens. Yeah it seems busier when it's late.
[12:06] <karyook> After some upgrade, i don't have /dev/hdb any more (which was my CDROM). If i do an mknod /dev/hdb..., it is removed after restart
[12:06] <karyook> what to do ?
[12:06] <[nrx] > Ar-Pharazon: i dunno if this is a problem my end.. but all i'm getting is a small image with some text in it... like a postage stamp size
[12:06] <murpheus> Hello room
[12:06] <Ar-Pharazon> [nrx]  yeah, look at the way the a and t merge together. That's my problem.
[12:06] <Ar-Pharazon> [nrx]  it's really annoying when you're reading text
[12:07] <[nrx] > Ar-Pharazon: not sure.. maybe it's just the font you're using?
[12:07] <Ar-Pharazon> [nrx]  I'm using ms fonts, I think the problem is related to antialiasing
[12:07] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, it looks like a kerning problem with the font.
[12:08] <Sizur> rausb0: i did fsck on partition in question, and sudo chown, sudo rm still give me "Operation not permitted"
[12:08] <Ar-Pharazon> Merodent: What's kerning?
[12:08] <[nrx] > MeRodent: was thinking that.. but then it would apply to all of them, surely?
[12:08] <[nrx] > Ar-Pharazon: kerning is the spacing between letters
[12:08] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, kerning pairs are spacing between particular characters
[12:08] <Ar-Pharazon> [nrx]  So where do I find this kerning information and how do I edit it?
[12:09] <mehdi20> i can not active beryl (icon is toolbar) :(
[12:09] <karyook> After some upgrade, i don't have /dev/hdb any more (which was my CDROM). If i do an mknod /dev/hdb..., it is removed after restart
[12:09] <[nrx] > Ar-Pharazon: i can't help you with that, sorry :( maybe MeRodent can tho :)
[12:09] <Sizur> the file is part of linux headers but not under root, /home/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic/include/config/blk/dev/dac960/module.h
[12:09] <_freedom_> hi there! Does anyone know how to fix Suspend to ram with nvidia graphics card. My system goes suspend but on wake screen stays black because graphics card wont come back from suspend.
[12:10] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, it differs from normal font spacing in that it applies to particular pairs of letters. There should be software available to fix kerning problems. I used to use a program called typesmith on Amiga but not sure what's available for linux.
[12:10] <sixpence> Is there any terminal that allows you to set hex values for colours?
[12:10] <[nrx] > Amiga heh :)
[12:11] <MeRodent> [nrx] , in the process of locating a scsi card so I can whack my amiga drives in my computer and use UAE with it.
[12:11] <Ar-Pharazon> MeRodent: So kerning is stored as part of the font file, somewhere else in plaintext, or in a special format of its own?
[12:11] <[nrx] > MeRodent: nice one :)
[12:11] <sixpence> _freedom_: Sounds like your vert refresh / horizon sync is not set properly.
[12:11] <nicholas_> heya. we're planning an installfest, and we would like to do it after 7.10 is out. any tips on release dates?
[12:12] <Ar-Pharazon> Merodent: Is kerning unique to font, system or application?
[12:12] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, it should be part of the font. The possibilities are that the kerning info is there and not being read (more likely there is faulty kerning data because at pair should look wider if kerning was missing).
[12:12] <_freedom_> well what refresh has to do with that when averything works fine before suspending?
[12:13] <sixpence> _freedom_: Because the refresh isn't needed for CLI
[12:13] <Ar-Pharazon> [nrx]  MeRodent, ok, thank you both, I'll see if I can figure out how to edit it
[12:13] <jimcooncat> starting to play with qemu, lvm, stuff like that -- where can I find some good help on network bridging, vlan, qos?
[12:13] <MatBoy>  how can I change settings on the about:config on a linux version of FF ? My right mouse button does not give me such option
[12:13] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, do you need to use that font? Try substituting a different font may fix the problem.
[12:14] <_freedom_> OK maybe I wasn't clear enough... I can enter GUI and from there I do Suspend and then can't go back
[12:14] <Tailsfan> Hello, What Does an OEM Install do?
[12:15] <Ar-Pharazon> ArPharazon: Well, Arial/Tahoma have nice spacing and are overall easy on my eyes.
[12:15] <jimcooncat> MatBoy: try double-clicking on the line you want to modify
[12:15] <Ar-Pharazon> I mean...  Maybe I like the sound it makes when my name's mentioned!
[12:16] <Ar-Pharazon> Though that would work better if my laptop wasn't muted...
[12:16] <MatBoy> jimcooncat, got it !
[12:17] <jimcooncat> MatBoy: good
[12:17] <zupb> hi, people. i want to instal a package libapache2-svb, but when i try to do this i give a mestake:
[12:17] <jimcooncat> Ar-Pharazon: Bitstream fonts are very nice
[12:18] <zupb> sub-process /usr/bit/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:18] <jimcooncat> Ar-Pharazon: Bitstream Vera Sans instead of Arial
[12:18] <zupb> what's it mean?
[12:18] <Ar-Pharazon> jimcooncat: I don't really know that much about fonts... Is bitstream a type or just a name?
[12:19] <Tailsfan> !ubotu OEM
[12:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:19] <jimcooncat> Ar-Pharazon: Bitstream is a company that makes fonts
[12:20] <mycket> Hello everybody, i neet to get hexdumps of network traffic including Ethernet preambles and checksum (a frame itself). tcpdump doesnt show them. can anyone give me a hint please?
[12:20] <Ar-Pharazon> jimcconcatOh.
[12:20] <jimcooncat> Ar-Pharazon: sudo apt-get install  ttf-bitstream-vera
[12:20] <Ar-Pharazon> but  pick bitstream vera sans and it sets the font to arial bold
[12:20] <Faustov> mycket: maybe wireshark?
[12:20] <rausb0> mycket: tcpdump -X -nei interfacename
[12:21] <kiba> haahahahahaha
[12:21] <Faustov> mycket: altho tcpdump SHOULD be able to do that for you
[12:21] <Ar-Pharazon> jimcooncat: Installed already.
[12:21] <kiba> gua bingung
[12:21] <kiba> hahahahaha
[12:21] <hmhowie> mycket: wireshark is good :) but illegal in some countries
[12:22] <sixpence> That's the way it works
[12:22] <_freedom_> why is wireshark illegal?
[12:22] <zupb> sub-process /usr/bit/dpkg returned an error code (1), what it's mean?
[12:22] <kiba> parah
[12:22] <kiba> hahahaha
[12:22] <bullgard4> What is a 'CRB platform'? See download.intel.com/technology/efi/docs/pdfs/EFIS001spr05.pdf
[12:22] <hmhowie> _freedom_: it's classed as a tool for espionage and network crime in germany
[12:23] <mycket> Faustov, i am sure that it can do it, but didn't know how. It shows only the content of a frame, not the frame itself :-(
[12:23] <_freedom_> LOL
[12:23] <rausb0> mycket: tcpdump -X -nei interfacename   does not work?
[12:23] <Faustov> mycket: man tcpdump then
[12:23] <hmhowie> _freedom_: but if it makes you feel better, tcpdump is probably illegal as well
[12:23] <sobersabre> hi.
[12:23] <sobersabre> I have amd64 system.
[12:23] <Jonah> hi guys i want to convert my music collection from ogg to mp3 but i need to keep the folder structure as i've got a lot of albums
[12:23] <Ar-Pharazon> So where would ubuntu keep my fonts?
[12:23] <sobersabre> I want to be able to run 32-bit applications
[12:24] <sobersabre> and install i386 debs.
[12:24] <mycket> rausb0, i'll try. just a moment
[12:24] <sobersabre> is this possible ?
[12:24] <kakblue> no
[12:24] <Jonah> is there anyway to batch it all reliably replacing the oggs with mp3s?
[12:24] <kakblue> hahaha
[12:24] <kakblue> oke
[12:24] <Ar-Pharazon> sobersabre: Last year I was rying to get kubuntu 64 to do that, they told me to just forget it and install i386. I didn't really have any problems.
[12:24] <Sizur> sobersabre: yes it is possible if you isntall x32 linux, and yes you can do that
[12:24] <zeth> Hi, I am trying to get someone's Ubuntu laptop on our wireless network, does network manager support WPA, or do I need to go through all the files on the command line
[12:25] <zeth> if network manager supports it then it is not obvious how
[12:25] <rausb0> Sizur: how did you fsck the partition?
[12:25] <rausb0> Sizur: (sorry i overlooked your reply)
[12:25] <Sizur> rausb0: sok.
[12:25] <MeRodent> MeRodent, is just trying the bell.
[12:25] <sobersabre> Sizur: whAT IS "install x32 linux" ?
[12:25] <Sizur> rausb0: i couldnt log in as you said, but i could login as root in recovery mode
[12:26] <Sizur> rausb0: then i did the fsck and there were no problems on that partition
[12:26] <Ar-Pharazon> Merodent heh heh... Yeees... Come to the Dark Side!
[12:26] <sobersabre> do u mean to run a 32 bit kernel, or is there some kind of x86 32 bit compatibility package /
[12:26] <Sizur> rausb0: it said it was clean
[12:26] <sobersabre> ?
[12:26] <BleedingMoon> i need to install JRE on amd 64bit
[12:26] <rausb0> Sizur: i guess you have to do   fsck -fy /dev/hda1   while hda1 is not mounted
[12:26] <mycket> rausb0, hm, ist starts at the MAC Adresses, no preamle to see
[12:26] <TURBO_PIANISTAS> irc.gr
[12:26] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, nope. no sound. might need to check my settings again.
[12:26] <Sizur> sobersabre: 32bit kernel
[12:26] <sobersabre> BleedingMoon: there's amd64 version
[12:26] <[nrx] > !java | BleedingMoon
[12:26] <ubotu> BleedingMoon: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:27] <sobersabre> and what is this bullcrap about /lib32 and /lib64 ?
[12:27] <Ar-Pharazon> MeRodent It's not enabled in Gaim by default.
[12:27] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, besides "Welcome to the dark side" is my menu choice for windows in grub.
[12:27] <Sizur> rausb0: what's the -fy option?
[12:27] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, that's good as I'm using xChat.
[12:27] <mycket> rausb0, there sould be some AA or 55 bytes i guess...
[12:27] <rausb0> Sizur: force and answer yes to all questions
[12:27] <Ar-Pharazon> MeRodent Heh... niice... *steals*
[12:27] <xerox> hi. I am trying to boot my ubuntu partition inside parallels, but its bios is "old" and cannot boot from a partition which is "far" from the beginning of the hd; is it possible to make a grub floppy which also contains the kernel image? or any other ideas about how to go for that?
[12:27] <Sizur> sobersabre: if you run 64bit version, you wont be able to run many 32bit binaries. but 64bit processor can do 32bit OS
[12:28] <Sizur> rausb0: i unmounted and ran fsck, it said the partition was clean
[12:28] <rausb0> mycket: my tcpdump shows 4500 as the first two bytes (which is not part of the mac address)
[12:28] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, so that's why. There are no sound files associated with any sound events.
[12:28] <rausb0> Sizur: i guess you must run a forced full fsck, try again with options -fy
[12:28] <Leon_home> r.
[12:29] <Ar-Pharazon> Merodent There were on gaim. =p
[12:29] <mycket> rausb, seems like ipv4 and 5*32 Bit Blocks,
[12:29] <Leon_home> if i want the command line "java" will work also when i type "Java" with capital letter ?
[12:29] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, but I preffer xChat.  closer to amirc for me.
[12:29] <xerox> can anybody tell me ow bit is the latest kernel image?
[12:29] <xerox> *how big
[12:30] <Ar-Pharazon> MeRodent All my loser friends use MSN, and I need something that does IRC, so gaim was just there and I figured it wasn't so bad.
[12:30] <mycket> rausb0, but a frame istself starts with 7 bytes 10101010... That's what i'm looking for
[12:30] <Sizur> rausb0: but i dotn see a -f option in the manpage for fsck
[12:30] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, that's what I use aMSN for.
[12:30] <sobersabre> thanks Sizur
[12:30] <Ar-Pharazon> MeRodent I don't exactly dig the msn support though... No private message. =/
[12:30] <[nrx] > Ar-Pharazon: gaim's irc client is kack
[12:31] <[nrx] > Ar-Pharazon: try kopete :)
[12:31] <rausb0> mycket: maybe the driver does not provide this low level access
[12:31] <Ar-Pharazon> [nrx]  gets the job done, and keeps all my chat related stuff in one place though... Is koppete multi-protocol?
[12:31] <[nrx] > Ar-Pharazon: yes - i use it :)
[12:31] <[nrx] > !kopete
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <rausb0> Sizur: then do fsck.ext3 -fy
[12:31] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, I stuck aMSN on and my daughter immediately wanted ubuntu on her computer cause it looks prettier than windows msn.
[12:31] <[nrx] > pft
[12:31] <rausb0> Sizur: but be sure that the partition is not mounted
[12:31] <Ar-Pharazon> MeRodent: aMSN makes my mouse pointer point right. It's freaky. And I couldn't get antialiasing to work.
[12:32] <Ar-Pharazon> [nrx]  thanks for the tip... I'll have a look
[12:32] <mycket> rausb0, yes I thought of it, too. i read some libpcap doku and it seems it only shows the content of ethernet frames...
[12:32] <VSpike> aMSN is fugly. But still less so than windows live messenger et al
[12:32] <Sizur> rausb0: ok i'll go try tha tnow
[12:32] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, disown your friends and tell them to get a real OS "If they're really your friends they'd do that for you."
[12:34] <[nrx] > Ar-Pharazon: i've found it to be the best of all the clients out there
[12:34] <Ar-Pharazon> MeRodent: I have few enough as it is. =( They already ditched my DnD game.
[12:34] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, lol
[12:36] <Ar-Pharazon> MeRodent: Yeah, well, it's not so funny from where I'm standing! And what's gonna happen 4 years later when I go to grad school? *Normal* people complain they have friends. What am I gonna be? In the red?
[12:36] <Ar-Pharazon> Don't have, that is.
[12:37] <MeRodent> Ar-Pharazon, I suggest you do a bit of research into AI then. Make your own friends.
[12:37] <[nrx] > lol
[12:37] <Ar-Pharazon> MeRodent: Well, I tried talking to myself, and it's real fun and all, but talking 6 hours a day non-stop makes my throat go dry.
[12:37] <[nrx] > eliphas_: i don't think they like auto-scripts in here :)
[12:38] <Ar-Pharazon> Ok guys, my counselor's back, see ya later
[12:38] <[nrx] > lol
[12:41] <screenname92834> hi
[12:41] <[nrx] > hi
[12:41] <combinio> is this possible/safe to use guarddog under gnome iunstead firestarter ? :]
[12:41] <Sizur> rausb0: YES! it worked. i deleted the cursed file :) that's tonns!
[12:41] <Sizur> rausb0: thanks tonns
[12:42] <zeth> in case anyone reads the scrollback, I fixed the wpa already
[12:42] <rausb0> Sizur: yw
[12:44] <Sizur> rausb0: one more little thing. everytime i boot, i need to set my DNS ip manually. how can i set it system wide?
[12:45] <rausb0> Sizur: dns is always set system wide, in the file /etc/resolv.conf
[12:46] <rausb0> Sizur: so you have to find out which mechanism is modifying that file at each boot
[12:46] <Sizur> rausb0: i have the ip there, but for some reason my internet does not work until i go to Network Connection Settings and set it again :/
[12:47] <rausb0> Sizur: maybe a problem with network manager. i cannot help you with that, i dont use network manager.
[12:48] <snap> how do i enable glx?
[12:48] <snap> how to
[12:49] <eliphas_> ok sorry for the mp3 message ealier
[12:49] <leperkhanz> Hi, I'm getting the error ".dmrc file being ignored, home folder must be owned by owner, not by others...."
 I need a specific answer...
[12:50] <Sizur> snap lol you're funny
[12:50] <snap> ::)
[12:51] <Sizur> snap how do you expect anybody to answer you after you offend everybody in here?
[12:51] <llama32> i have an i810.. there is 3d acceleration support for i810 right? how do i enable it?
[12:51] <snap> oh wait it's not ubuntu that sux ,its the help
[12:51] <Sizur> snap, it's free help iznt it? ;)
[12:51] <snap> no
[12:51] <snap> its not free
[12:51] <snap> nothing is free
[12:51] <gnoobie>  I am trying to install MUMPS (in fact the whole US veterans VistA progam) on my edubuntu 7.0.4 Box and I am stuck trying to work out 2 things in particular
[12:51] <SlimeyPete> !glx
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <leperkhanz> rw rw r 1 rhy rhy 0 2007-9-17 08:08 .dmrc
[12:52] <SlimeyPete> heh
[12:52] <snap> its costing me time and money
[12:52] <SlimeyPete> *shrug*
[12:52] <SlimeyPete> !nvidia
[12:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:52] <rausb0> snap: oh yes, you have to read. and understand. oh my.
[12:52] <negra> im trying to get AWN runing but it wont start please help
[12:52] <snap> to wait on a bunch of stuck up ass holes to answer me
[12:52] <jimcooncat> leperkhanz: is rhy your username on your machine?
[12:52] <SlimeyPete> ^^ if you mean nvidia-glx, that's where to look, snap
[12:52] <[nrx] > snap: go learn yourself then
[12:52] <leperkhanz> yeah.
[12:52] <leperkhanz> :)
[12:52] <rausb0> snap: go stick your head in a pig
[12:52] <Sizur> snap, i guess in this case you'd be better off getting a commercial support for your os... just a thought ;)
[12:53] <DMRC> leperkhanz: wtf?
[12:53] <snap> funny how when i need help no one answers, but if i offend you take the time to reply
[12:53] <gnoobie> anyone able to direct me to an active channel for medical linux users
[12:53] <Sizur> snap, yeah i agree it's funny
[12:53] <gnoobie> Hi Sizur
[12:53] <Sizur> snap even though you did not offend me ;) i'm neutral to ubuntu
[12:53] <[nrx] > snap: has it come across your two-bit, half-whit brain that no-one actually knows the solution to your problem at the moment - or we're all busy with other things?
[12:53] <leperkhanz> DMRC: I'm giving jimcooncat the result of ls -l .dmrc
[12:53] <SlimeyPete> snap: this is IRC. The conversation ebbs and flows. PErsonaly, I took this long to answer because I haven't been looking at IRC for a few minutes.
[12:53] <snap> was wondering if what they said was true, and it is
[12:53] <Sizur> gnoobie: hi
[12:53] <DMRC> ah.. okey
[12:54] <gnoobie> COOL
[12:54] <gnoobie> response
[12:54] <jimcooncat> leperkhanz: I get: -rw------- 1 jim jim 26 2007-05-15 11:06 .dmrc
[12:54] <leperkhanz> because every time I boot I get the error that .dmrc is ignored, blah blah blah.
[12:54] <jimcooncat> sorry DMRC :-)
[12:54] <DMRC> :D
[12:54] <leperkhanz> so what do I need to do then?
[12:54] <gnoobie> SIzur, I am trying to install MUMPS (in fact the whole US veterans VistA progam) on my edubuntu 7.0.4 Box and I am stuck trying to work out 2 things in particular
[12:54] <snap> lol slimey and you expect me to believe thast bs?
[12:54] <leperkhanz> snap, don't be obnoxious.
[12:54] <gnoobie> Sizur, 1) which of the following ckages I need from http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm  in order to get "latest GT.M release version"  as suggested in the online installation instructions at http://vistapedia.net/index.php?title=Installation_How_To_VistA_GT.M_Ubuntu_Linux
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> snap: *shrug* not really bothered whether you believe it.
[12:55] <leperkhanz> Ask your question and wait patiently like the other n00bs.
[12:55] <jimcooncat> leperkhanz: sorry I don't know how to fix your prob
[12:55] <[nrx] > leperkhanz: lol
[12:55] <gnoobie> OK
[12:55] <gnoobie> thanks for the tips
[12:55] <stefg> !noob
[12:55] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:55] <snap> ya if i believe it lol
[12:55] <rausb0> snap: you provided way too few information. "how do i enable GLX?" is simply not enough. it heavily depends on which gfx card you have.
[12:55] <leperkhanz> oops. soz.   Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[12:56] <Sizur> gnoobie: you have posed your question with details... unfortunately i have no idea there
[12:56] <Toffee> Helloo, lol.
[12:56] <leperkhanz> I DON'T WANT TO IGNORE YOU!  WORK! :)
[12:57] <rob> cut it out please :)
[12:57] <Sizur> gnoobie: are you trying to install MUMPS from source?
[12:57] <Myrtti> huh
[12:57] <gnoobie> yes
[12:57] <leperkhanz> *sigh*
[12:57] <snap> oooh i wonder if SMUG goes against it also, hmm maybe you shouldn't use as well:)
[12:57] <Lambuntu> Is it a common problem to have xorg.conf say it's loading and then have nothing show up?
[12:57] <[nrx] > rob, got a somewhat obnoxious person here by the name of snap ;/
[12:57] <Lambuntu> the window shows up, but not text in it.
[12:57] <rob> [nrx] , okay I'll keep an eye on here
[12:57] <Toffee> :o
[12:57] <gnoobie> actually, wife just served up lunch - back in a tick
[12:57] <[nrx] > rob, ty :)
[12:57] <[nrx] > lunch!!
[12:57] <Sizur> gnoobie: then usualy when you run ./configure it should tell you what's missing
[12:57] <gnoobie> hope to speak soon, SIzur
[12:58] <Toffee> www.ethonet.org
[12:58] <Toffee> www.ethonet.org
[12:58] <Toffee> www.ethonet.org
[12:58] <gnoobie> ciao!
[12:58] <leperkhanz> rob, I said "noob", but I was referring to myself.  HAVE MERCY!
[12:58] <Sizur> gnoobie: if not, then when you do ./make
[12:58] <Sizur> he's gone
[12:58] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'CRB' in the dmidecode output "This is the Intel Alviso Chipset CRB Platform"?
[12:58] <[nrx] > anyone know if there's a linux based radmin viewer/client?
[12:58] <baysao> hi all, i had a problem when make deb package
[12:58] <snap> if you spent as much time helping , as you did whining about the offence that occured because of your smugness you would have solved my question
[12:58] <baysao> got this error
[12:58] <baysao> parsechangelog/debian: error: badly formatted heading line, at file debian/changelog line 3
[12:58] <baysao> dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package is
[12:59] <leperkhanz> Seriously, nobody in here knows what the .dmrc file does or how to get it unignored?
[12:59] <stefg> Lambuntu: it's usually more productive to not ask metaquestions, but to address the problem directly.
[12:59] <baysao> what is syntax check here ?
[12:59] <[nrx] > snap: if you spent as much time looking for an answer to your problem as you have spent in here slagging people off, you'd have solved your question
[12:59] <amaia> hi
[12:59] <Sizur> hi amaia
[12:59] <[nrx] > snap: as such, i very much doubt you'll now get the support you came here for in the first place
[01:00] <leperkhanz> snap:  I'm not smug.  I'm sitting here with something broken.  What do you want?  What is your question?  What isn't working, and what have you tried?
[01:00] <snap> ithis is where it says to look for answers (dee Dee Dee)
[01:00] <Lambuntu> stefg: I edited a single line in xorg.conf to try to remap mouse buttons.  I then reloaded x, and saw that it didn't fix anything and upon entering x again no text appeared.
[01:00] <Lambuntu> i mean...
[01:00] <leperkhanz> "it"?
[01:00] <Lambuntu> upon sudo gedit xorg.conf no text appears in the winow.  "it" being my mouse button editing.
[01:00] <leperkhanz> you haven't asked any questions.  You've just thrown a little tantrum and insulted me, which isn't really relevant, so I'm willing to forget it.
[01:01] <leperkhanz> what is yoru ?
[01:01] <jimcooncat> leperkhanz: there's a thread on the forum about it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91455
[01:01] <stefg> Lambuntu: did u make a backup of xorg.conf that you can restore? (or used an editor which does it automatically, like gedit) ?
[01:01] <jimcooncat> leperkhanz: somewhat confusing, though
[01:01] <Lambuntu> Yes, I used gedit.
[01:01] <leperkhanz> jimcooncat: thanks.
[01:01] <snap> I have dowloaded the new ubuntu and need to enable something called glx to get restricted drivers to work rite
[01:01] <leperkhanz> *sigh* of course it is.
[01:01] <leperkhanz> snap: gutsy or feisty?
[01:01] <leperkhanz> How new?
[01:01] <nomasteryoda> Lambuntu, you sure you tried "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:02] <snap> gutsy
[01:02] <snap> 5
[01:02] <stefg> Lambuntu: thenn look into /etc/X11/ ... there should be a file xorg.conf~
[01:02] <[nrx] > !gutsy
[01:02] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:02] <rausb0> snap: no, the other way round. in order to get GLX working, you have to enable the restricted drivers. (if you have an ati or nvidia card, that is)
[01:02] <leperkhanz> well, then for starters, this is the wrong chan.  But I'll try to help anyway, since it might be within my scope of what I can fix.
[01:02] <rausb0> snap: gutsy is only supported in #ubuntu+1, not here
[01:02] <snap> yesum i have nvidia 8500gt
[01:02] <leperkhanz> even though *i* am a n00b.
[01:03] <leperkhanz> Go to System, and select Administration, and then Restricted Drivers.
[01:03] <leperkhanz> What does that say?
[01:03] <snap> I will look there then thank you
[01:03] <Lambuntu> stefg: thanks.
[01:03] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'CRB' in the dmidecode output "This is the Intel Alviso Chipset CRB Platform"?
[01:03] <snap> rausb0 : have a nice day thanks
[01:03] <rausb0> snap: btw, you are aware that gutsy is still unreleased software, aren't you?
[01:04] <snap> yes
[01:04] <jimcooncat> leperkhanz: see last post in that thread, looks like a solution
[01:04] <rausb0> snap: so don't expect everything to run smoothly
[01:04] <leperkhanz> jimcooncat: Thanks!
[01:04] <snap> october is the said date
[01:04] <mikubuntu_> few probs today guys. first, click on clamtk and get this msg: 'you do not appear to have virus definitions!' 'running 'freshclam -v' as root may fix the problem.  what is the complete command i have to input to terminal?
[01:04] <rzimek78> hey, how to change the name of my computer in terminal?
[01:04] <yellow_chicken> how to determine the read/write speed of a given flash drive (USB)?
[01:04] <stefg> Lambuntu: after you retsored it as xorg.conf run 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart' that will restart X with the restored xorg.conf
[01:04] <snap> i am excited to get this os to finaly work with my 8500gt card
[01:04] <[nrx] > rzimek78: try "hostname <newname>"
[01:05] <jrib> !hostname > rzimek78 (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:05] <rzimek78> ok
[01:05] <Crozar> same snap
[01:05] <rausb0> snap: btw, too new hardware is always a problem under linux
[01:05] <jrib> snap: on feisty you need to install the drivers manually, the wiki page has instructions on this.  Have you seen it?
[01:05] <Crozar> im too old hardware thats a problem too lol
[01:05] <snap> i know but i have faith that all who work on this os will fix it up good
[01:05] <rausb0> snap: and that is not linux's fault but that of the hardware manufacturers (at least in most cases)
[01:06] <Crozar> when i go in resoloutions i see refresh rate 50 which my LCD handles 60
[01:06] <leperkhanz> snap: What did the restricted Driver manager say?
[01:06] <Lambuntu> stefg: thanks!
[01:06] <leperkhanz> jimcooncat: I ran that chmod, gonna try a reboot after I help snap.
[01:06] <Crozar> i went through xorg.conf im using the modified version of ubuntuforum
[01:06] <stefg> snap, Crozar : have you both tried reading through the docs? There is also a nvidia-glx-new package, that has better support for all the  gt-series
[01:06] <Crozar> im using laptop GeForce4 GO 440 ( 32mb card )
[01:06] <jimcooncat> leperkhanz: good luck, gotta go to work
[01:07] <snap> no jrib i have not viewed it , there is so much information to read and i have to work too
[01:07] <Crozar> its a known Bug Issue which havent been completed until the dfp option use
[01:07] <jrib> !nvidia > snap (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:07] <Sizur> Crozar: not too sure you can push glx on that one
[01:07] <snap> i wish i had more time
[01:07] <stefg> Crozar: the you're probably better served with nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:07] <Crozar> yes im using edgy driver for this
[01:07] <mikubuntu_> rausb0: wow, there was a snippet of wisdom that should be on a few help pages. very good point to ponder when considering new stuff, huh.  i've been pleasantly surprised to find that most things i have gotten off clearance racks and at garage sales 'just work' as a corollary :)
[01:07] <snap> ok
[01:07] <rausb0> snap: as long as ati won't change its information policy to free driver developers, the situation will remain problematic
[01:07] <Crozar> NO not Legacy lol
[01:07] <jrib> snap: it's straightforward, just read what applies to you
[01:07] <Crozar> im using accelerated
[01:07] <tarelerulz> is there many programs for amd 64 out there ?
[01:07] <Crozar> are u a new helper?
[01:07] <MeRodent> snap, If you want I can send you some detailed instructions that work.
[01:07] <jrib> Crozar: you're using the nvidia driver?
[01:07] <Crozar> yes
[01:08] <Crozar> i start screen i get nvidia logo
[01:08] <Crozar> theproblem is im using 50 refresh rate it hought its a bug because maybe this 50 that shows means 60 ?
[01:08] <Mattias> i got an audigy, when i installed ubuntu it choosed the driver snd_ca0160, which is having glitches in the sound, and when i remove that and modprobe to snd_emu10k1 the sound won't even find my audigy, any idea on the correct drivers?
[01:08] <rausb0> mikubuntu_: what is a corollary? sorry, english is not my native language
[01:08] <Crozar> laptop cant go under 60 refresh rate or more :( coz it might spoil or damage screen
[01:08] <leperkhanz> rausb0: They just did open their drivers and release all specs.  But it will take more time.  But he's on Nvidia, who is still grossly behind on that.
[01:08] <jrib> tarelerulz: yes, but proprietary stuff like flash and sun's java plugin is not available and will take some work.  I would recommend 32bit unless you know exactly why you need 64bit and don't mind some extra headaches
[01:08] <jrib> Crozar: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[01:08] <rausb0> leperkhanz: they announced to do so. did they really do something?
[01:09] <snap> my email is www dot scoobydoo28139 at gmail dot com
[01:09] <jrib> Crozar: trust what 'nvidia-settings' says, not the screen resolution thing in the menu
[01:09] <mikubuntu_> few probs today guys. first, click on clamtk and get this msg: 'you do not appear to have virus definitions!' 'running 'freshclam -v' as root may fix the problem.  what is the complete command i have to input to terminal?
[01:09] <snap> :)
[01:09] <snap> i do read the mail
[01:09] <dystopianray> tarelerulz: most open source programs are available as 64-bit apps
[01:09] <predaeus> mikubuntu_, likely "sudo freshclam -v"
[01:09] <Crozar> jrib?wehre to go through nvidia setting i havent installed the nvidia control pannel i thought i would destroy my 8 days of hardwork
[01:09] <tarelerulz> jrib , I found out about the flash  today.  I if I could get them to work . I would not care about the extra efforts
[01:09] <rausb0> snap: did you say anything about having a nvidia card? then i overlooked it
[01:09] <dystopianray> Mattias: the driver is snd_ca0160
[01:10] <jrib> Crozar: if you installed the nvidia drivers through apt, you should be able to type 'nvidia-settings' in a terminal
[01:10] <leperkhanz> WOW: tons of wrong info just spouted.  AMD and ATI are releasing gfx specs.  They have largely been released as of right now.  Flash DOES work in 64 bit gutsy.  I'm using it RIGHT NOW.  There are TONS of 64 bit programs, go try getdeb.net
[01:10] <snap> yup its an nvidia 8500 gt
[01:10] <mikubuntu_> predaeus: that's kinda what i thought but wasn't sure
[01:10] <Crozar> i finally have my screen to be full screen i had to install edgy and do everything then save xorg thenput it through memory stick then install feisty and overwrite because non here helped me lastnight
[01:10] <jrib> !flash64 > tarelerulz (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:10] <leperkhanz> Ok, going for reboot.  Good luck snap.
[01:11] <snap> Merodent did you get my email?
[01:11] <Crozar> this is cool but not too muchoptions
[01:11] <leperkhanz> You will want to make sure that the check box under enabled in restricted driver manager is checked.
[01:11] <snap> thanks leper
[01:11] <jrib> !who | Crozar
[01:11] <ubotu> Crozar: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:11] <MeRodent> snap, give me a second.
[01:11] <leperkhanz> also: to the audigy guy: there are no creative drivers yet.  DON'T BUY CREATIVE.
[01:12] <leperkhanz> FYI any $5 sound card from fry's has worked perfectly in Ubuntu for me.
[01:12] <Crozar> jrib: thanks i see im using 60 refresh rate so ubuntu has a bug through theyr control interface
[01:12] <rausb0> leperkhanz: alright, then ati finally seems to get it
[01:12] <dystopianray> leperkhanz: audigy cards are very well supported under linux, you're thinking of the x-fi
[01:12] <snap> ok i have to get my boy off to school , emails scoobydoo28139 at gmail and yahoo thanks
[01:12] <stefg> !fixres | Crozar:
[01:12] <ubotu> Crozar:: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:12] <Crozar> irc is nice :D it has things i never knew a chat can have
[01:12] <Mattias> dystopianray: hm, odd >,< i wonder why i get glitches in the sound then
[01:12] <[nrx] > rofl
[01:12] <leperkhanz> NO, AMD bought them, and AMD has always got it. :)
[01:12] <jrib> Crozar: yeah, same thing happens here.  My monitor and nvidia-settings report 75 but "screen resolution" reports something else
[01:12] <dystopianray> Mattias: what sort of glitches? and do they occur with all applications?
[01:13] <MeRodent> snap, done.
[01:13] <rausb0> Crozar: irc is *the* one and only chat service :)
[01:13] <leperkhanz> And yeah, I was thinking of X-Fi, so DON'T BUY CREATIVE PRODUCTS!!!
[01:13] <leperkhanz> brb.
[01:13] <tarelerulz>  jrib , I bookmarked that link and will read it later. I was just trying to get my system up to speed .
[01:13] <dystopianray> just don't buy the x-fi, audigys are great
[01:13] <Crozar> all my life was zone.com and MSN
[01:13] <snap> merodent: thank you have a good day bye now
[01:13] <Crozar> now its IRC and Kopete
[01:13] <Mattias> dystopianray: only when i play a song, seems like it happens on high bass, which makes the speakers generate some kind of static electricity sound. thought this happens even if i turn down volume to lowest, when the song is playing with high bass
[01:13] <leperkhanz> Don't support a company that won't give specs.  DON'T BUY CREATIVE PRODUCTS!
[01:14] <Mattias> dystopianray: i mean, same song on windows, no problems
[01:14] <vanni>  hi i installed wine and after i installed my winzoz app.
[01:14] <rausb0> Crozar: well i wouldn't use kopete for irc :)
[01:14] <rob> leperkhanz, please watch the caps
[01:14] <vanni> the problem is
[01:14] <jrib> vanni: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[01:14] <vanni> when i have to choose the network interface on my winzoz software
[01:14] <Faustov> how can i uninstall all kernel-sources and kernel-images and then install the stable kernel image from the ubuntu repository?
[01:14] <Crozar> rausb0:  im using irc x forirc and kopete for msn
[01:14] <vanni> ok
[01:14] <Crozar> hey now with nvidia-settings i think i can let the rain work in beryl :D
[01:14] <[nrx] > is there a way to access the restricted drivers menu from within kde?
[01:14] <Jaomi> Hello
[01:15] <rausb0> Crozar: ah okay. i use irssi for irc and nothing for msn :)
[01:15] <siskel> hi, just installed feisty and only got 2 workspaces, how can i get 4 workspaces?
[01:15] <lorenzo_> hello, someeone know a irc chat with transparent background
[01:15] <vanni> hi i installed wine and after i installed my winzoz app. hi i installed wine and after i installed my winzoz app.hi i installed wine and after i installed my winzoz app.
[01:15] <dystopianray> Mattias: you might be able to fix it by fiddling with the mixer controls
[01:15] <Sizur> leperkhanz will be singing a different song if he'd own a company that feeds hundreds of employees :)
[01:15] <dystopianray> siskel: right click on the workspace applet and you should be able to create more
[01:15] <Mattias> dystopianray: tried that, even if i have on lowest there, still same problem
[01:15] <dystopianray> vanni: what is your point?
[01:15] <siskel> dystopianray, so easy ! thank you
[01:15] <vanni>  the problem is
[01:15] <vanni> [13:09]  <vanni> when i have to choose the network interface on my winzoz software
[01:15] <vanni> [13:10]  <vanni> i can not see the network card
[01:15] <vanni> [13:10]  <vanni> what can i do??
[01:15] <Jaomi> Is there anyway to make mp3 files always to open with xmms?
[01:16] <dystopianray> Mattias: have you tried fiddling with all the controls?
[01:16] <Mattias> dystopianray: yep, only one control is for the sound, rest is turned off
[01:16] <dystopianray> vanni: what software are you running?
[01:16] <vanni> so i it looks like wine can not detect my network card
[01:16] <freeman_> hgjgh
[01:16] <vanni> butterfly netrender
[01:16] <dystopianray> Mattias: fiddle around with all of them
[01:16] <Mattias> dystopianray: ive done that, no sound from any of em
[01:17] <jrib> vanni: please keep it to one line, no one will have any clue what you are talking about otherwise
[01:17] <freeman_>
[01:17] <jrib> !away > Crozar (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:17] <dystopianray> Mattias: audigy cards have dozens of controls that can do weird things
[01:17] <tarelerulz> any of you had problems with totem with all the plugins not repeating mpg and other closed formats like that ?
[01:17] <Crozar> jrib: thanks :D
[01:17] <dgjones> Jao, right click on the file, select properties and then go to the  open with tab and select which program you want to use to open a file
[01:18] <Mattias> dystopianray: the first thing i did when i got this problem was, having all raised, still same problem, then i lowered each of em, and if sound dissapeared totally i raised that one and continued with next, which was effectless
[01:18] <Mattias> dystopianray: i've never had problems with audigy cards before, and i've always used emu10k1 before >,<
[01:18] <Mattias> dystopianray: sure its not the wrong driver?
[01:18] <dystopianray> Mattias: your card isn't a standard audigy
[01:18] <Mattias> dystopianray: its audigy 1
[01:18] <vanni> ok from the beggining; i installed wine and after i installed butterfly netrender. when i run butterfly i can not choose my network card. i can only choose the <IP_ADDRESS> as network interface. what can i do? have i to set something on wine?
[01:19] <dystopianray> Mattias: you have a budget audigy card, it doesn't have the same hardware as other cards
[01:19] <Mattias> dystopianray: oh, i'll look into that, i got another audigy card i bought years ago which has always worked, ill see if that one works with emu10k1, thats the one i've always used with that driver
[01:20] <Mattias> dystopianray: maybe ill put this audigy here into the other comp then :) if thats the case
[01:20] <Jaomi> How do i make my MP3 files always to open with XMMS, and not Totem? :S
[01:20] <dgjones> Jaomi, right click on the file, select properties and then go to the  open with tab and select which program you want to use to open a file
[01:21] <stefg> vanni: better ask his in #winehq. This is not very closely related to #ubuntu as you're not even running a linux application
[01:21] <dystopianray> Mattias: why not just get an audigy 2 value or something, they can be had pretty cheap and work very well
[01:22] <vanni> ok thanks
[01:22] <Sizur> dgjones: Jaomi wants to have it _always_ open with that
[01:22] <tarelerulz> Totem plays mp3 well jaomi . I use it for all my media other then it not repeating forever I have not had any problems that big with it
[01:22] <tikilou> irc://irc.otaku-irc.net/db-fr
[01:22] <Mattias> dystopianray: nah, since i got another card i know that works, ill use that, if it plays sounds without glitches is good enough :P
[01:23] <Sizur> dgjones: and your solution solves it :P
[01:23] <kahrytan> Jaomi, right-click on the media file and select properties
[01:23] <Mattias> dystopianray: well, i still wonder why it works fine in windows, and not linux
[01:23] <Mattias> dystopianray: since theres absolutely no problems in windows
[01:23] <dgjones> Sizur, i thought might, its always worked for me in the past
[01:23] <dystopianray> Mattias: a crap driver
[01:24] <shiner> hallo
[01:24] <Mattias> dystopianray: gonna change soundcard now then to see if the problems resolves, thanks for the info
[01:24] <shiner> is here anyone having exp with the LTSP ?
[01:25] <Mattias> dystopianray: ooh wait, i got a better idea, forgot my new mobo has high defenition sound card in it, maybe its better
[01:25] <Mattias> p5k deluxe
[01:25] <mikubuntu_> predaeus: ok, ran that command (sudo freshclam -v) and got a message to goto the clamav wiki, and there they said run 'apt-cache search clamav' and that gave me a whole lot of output, well not that much, but anyways, i'm thinking that i'm still not upgraded... can i pastebin for you to look at the output?
[01:25] <dystopianray> Mattias: it might be adequate
[01:25] <Sizur> dgjones: yes, it should. my bad :) your solution should work
[01:25] <npnufn> In Ubuntu I couldn't find the Realplayer's Cache folder, does any one have an idea where it is located.  So that I can copy the streamed file.
[01:25] <dgjones> Sizur, no probs
[01:25] <dystopianray> npnufn: might be in /tmp
[01:25] <predaeus> mikubuntu_, you can try, but I never used clamav, so I might not be of any help
[01:26] <rzimek78> hostname NEW_NAME works, but when I reboot the system, there is still previous name, not New_Name. Why?
[01:26] <npnufn> dystoplanray; it is not there.
[01:26] <dgjones> Sizur, as ubotu says, just if it works for me doesn't always mean it works for everyone
[01:26] <predaeus> mikubuntu_, apt-cache just searches for the application in the repositories.
[01:26] <[nrx] > !hostname | rzimek78
[01:26] <ubotu> rzimek78: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[01:26] <rzimek78> ok
[01:27] <dystopianray> rzimek78: update /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[01:27] <paulowsky> hi, does anybody have their ubuntu synaptic package updates failing for ubuntu feisty?
[01:27] <npnufn> I read somewhere that it stores in the folder named cache_db.
[01:28] <npnufn> I couldn't find any such folder it.  Does it changes Ubuntu.
[01:28] <[nrx] > anyone know if there's a linux based radmin viewer/client?
[01:28] <mikubuntu_> predaeus: ummmmm, so can you tell me what i have to do next with this: ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37981/
[01:29] <rzimek78> ok, I've changed hosts and hostname, but should I reboot the system or maybe there's a way to update Hosts and Hostname files without rebooting?
[01:30] <[nrx] > rzimek78: try typing "hostname" and it should tell you if it's worked
[01:30] <dystopianray> rzimek78: use the 'hostname' command
[01:30] <rzimek78> still old name
[01:30] <predaeus> mikubuntu_, have you clamav installed from the Ubuntu repositories or from some outside source?
[01:30] <dystopianray> rzimek78: use 'hostname' to change the current hostname
[01:30] <[nrx] > rzimek78: did you edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts?
[01:30] <rzimek78> ye
[01:30] <vanni> ciao sono un noob
[01:31] <[nrx] > set the hostname now with "hostname <newhostname>" and check again with "hostname"
[01:31] <Jaomi> kahrytan Thanks a bunch!
[01:31] <[nrx] > alternatively, reboot :D
[01:31] <mikubuntu_> predaeus: omg, i don't know/remember ... :(
[01:32] <predaeus> mikubuntu_, run synaptic and search for clamav again, then you will see if it is installed.
[01:32] <stefg> mikubuntu_: let's looka t that from one level below: Why do you need clamav at all? Running a mailserver or having a windows-box to scan? Ubuntu doesn't need a virusscanner on its own behalf
[01:33] <rzimek78> ok, hostname New-Name works, now I'm gonna reboot the system
[01:35] <rzimek78> /etc/init.d/hostname.sh works ! :)
[01:35] <rzimek78> thanks
[01:35] <[nrx] > rzimek78: yw
[01:36] <TechnoFrood> Anyone able to recomend an email client that works with Exchange 2007, Evoultion complains the server is running Exchange 5.5
[01:37] <[nrx] > TechnoFrood: thunderbird?
[01:37] <SlimeyPete> TechnoFrood: Kontact's worth a try
[01:37] <TechnoFrood> THats what i'm using at the moment over imap
[01:37] <TechnoFrood> I'll give kontact a try
[01:38] <mikubuntu_> stefg: i know the threats are way lower, but there is some level of threat isn't there?  otherwise why would they have packages for it?
[01:38] <digispag|afk> Will Gnome 2.20 be in the 7.04 repo, or is it only going to be in 7.10?
[01:38] <Mattias> dystopianray: exact same problem with AD1988B, HDA Intel soundcard
[01:39] <Mattias> dystopianray: :/
[01:39] <dystopianray> digispag|afk: gnome 2.20 should be in gutsy
[01:39] <dystopianray> Mattias: i guess the problem lies elsewhere then
[01:39] <digispag|afk> k, so i'll not bother downloading it then, i'll just wait
[01:40] <lorenzo__> hello how can ai connect to msn with naim. please help!
[01:41] <stefg> mikubuntu_: clamav scans for *windows* -virusses and is intended for mailservers (so the windows clients don't get virii) or for windows - rescue purposes. There are excatly *0* virii for Linux in the wild, and a virus scanner won't protect from a hacker attack anyway
[01:41] <Moniker42> how do i give myself write permissions to an external NTFS drive?
[01:41] <Jaomi> Does desktop effect cause slowdowns?
[01:41] <dystopianray> Jaomi: it can
[01:41] <Vegar> Jaomi: the answer is probably yes
[01:41] <Mattias> dystopianray: im on gutsy btw, could it be a problem with the new esd version?
[01:42] <lorenzo__> hello how can ai connect to msn with naim. please help!
[01:42] <dystopianray> Mattias: you should be in #ubuntu+1
[01:42] <IdleOne> lorenzo_: naim?
[01:42] <dystopianray> !gutsy | Mattias
[01:42] <ubotu> Mattias: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:42] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > Moniker42 (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:42] <Mattias> dystopianray: ah, going there now then
[01:42] <lorenzo__> yes its an IRC chat for linux
[01:42] <Vegar> lorenzo__: do you mean gaim?
[01:42] <Srixon> Hello, I Have a Networking question thati cannot find online,   I have installed ndiswrapper and installed my wireless cards drivers (Broadcom) but it still says the hardware isnt there.
[01:42] <amro> How to change root password? when I use "sudo passwd root" it shows me "Unknow id"
[01:43] <Jaomi> vegar: I have a Dell D510, it has a 1,4 Ghz Celeron M, 512 MB RAM, Intel GMA 900, should i keep desktop effect activated?
[01:43] <lorenzo__> no, Naim
[01:43] <jrib> !root > amro (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:43] <dystopianray> Srixon: do you actually have a broadcom card?
[01:43] <Srixon> Yes
[01:43] <damjan|work> anyone knows where can I find the xf86-video-intel driver for 7.04?
[01:43] <lorenzo__> it a terminal chat
[01:43] <Eagleray> amro: then try 'sudo su', followed by 'passwd'
[01:43] <dystopianray> Jaomi: if you like desktop effects, use it, otherwise, don't
[01:43] <npnufn> on my feisty box, it is showing that realplayer is accessing a file '/SYSV00000000' but I can't see it in my file system what is it?
[01:43] <amro> Eagleray: thx
[01:43] <jrib> damjan|work: you probably wnat xserver-xorg-video-intel
[01:43] <Srixon> Dystopianry: Yes i do use a Broadcom.
[01:44] <Jaomi> dystopianray: What does it change, can i read about it somewhere?
[01:44] <damjan|work> npnufn: it's shared memory
[01:44] <dystopianray> damjan|work: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[01:44] <jrib> amro: there is no need to set a root password on Ubuntu
[01:44] <damjan|work> dystopianray: jrib thanks
[01:44] <npnufn> damjan|work; thanks.
[01:44] <Vegar> Jaomi: I'd disable it to save power - but if you like it you can keep it enabled, it's up to you
[01:44] <Jaomi> Newermind! Found it in the help =)
[01:44] <dystopianray> Jaomi: you can toggle it on and off, try it out
[01:44] <lorenzo_> someone know "Naim"
[01:44] <Eagleray> jrib: there is no _need_, but it's damn annoying not having one
[01:44] <dystopianray> Jaomi: it just activates compiz
[01:44] <jrib> Eagleray: how?
[01:44] <amro> jrib:why?
[01:45] <Eagleray> jrib: I like to be able to give others the pass to my user account without also allowing them root (sudo) access
[01:45] <jrib> amro: because you don't need one and the ubuntu developers have based the security model around sudo
[01:45] <serdar_> hi
[01:45] <npnufn> damjan|work; my real players is playing a file which is having one hour lenght and is completely downloaded.  But I can't see where it has downloaded it.  Can you help me in this?
[01:45] <jrib> Eagleray: fair enough
[01:45] <Eagleray> jrib: admittedly I do run debian rather than ubuntu, but when I do come across an ubuntu box the first thing I do is nuke sudo rights and add a proper root pass
[01:45] <Weric> root without a pass?
[01:45] <serdar_> deeuscher
[01:45] <Eagleray> Weric: no
[01:46] <Srixon> dystopiantry: do you have any idea how ot fix this?
[01:46] <damjan|work> npnufn: try 'ls -l /proc/pid-of-real/fd'
[01:46] <dystopianray> Srixon: pastebin lspci
[01:46] <amro> jrib:when I use "sudu.." it requires for password
[01:46] <damjan|work> npnufn: I hope it didn't download to memmory
[01:46] <Eagleray> amro: that is normal, it's asking for your user password
[01:46] <jrib> amro: yes, "sudo" requests your user's password
[01:46] <Eagleray> jrib: snap!
[01:46] <Weric> Eagleray, thanks, good cause that doesnt sound good.
[01:46] <Draggin> Good day again...  I have more questions :)
[01:46] <serdar_> ist da keine trke
[01:47] <amro> jrib:then, how I can do it without root password?
[01:47] <Eagleray> Weric: my root password is a _very_ closely guarded secret
[01:47] <Srixon> Dystopianray: where do i type this? or whats the exact command in terminal?
[01:47] <Myrtti> !de | serdar_
[01:47] <ubotu> serdar_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:47] <serdar_> amro
[01:47] <jrib> amro: what do you mean?  What are you trying to do?
[01:47] <Eagleray> amro: you type 'sudo su', that will ask for YOUR password and then give you a root shell
[01:47] <Draggin> I finally got Ubuntu up and running with Sayed's help, but now I've run into some problems with applications...
[01:47] <Eagleray> amro: then just type 'passwd' and it will ask you for a new root pw
[01:47] <npnufn> damjan|work; no use; it is showing like /dev/pts/0 and socket:number; and pipe: number;
[01:47] <Draggin> Is anyone familai
[01:47] <dystopianray> Srixon: lspci
[01:48] <npnufn> are they also files?
[01:48] <jrib> Eagleray: please don't recommend that unless someone specifically needs a root password set
[01:48] <serdar_> eagleray manki
[01:48] <Quak3r> hello there
[01:48] <amro> Eagleray:thx,I will try torrow :)
[01:48] <Eagleray> jrib: amro did request it
[01:48] <Eagleray> serdar_: ?
[01:48] <damjan|work> npnufn: that's all the file descriptors the process uses
[01:48] <Srixon> Dysto ubuntu is on my laptop next to me.. not connected to the internet.
[01:48] <Draggin> Is anyone familiar with FabForce DBDesigner?  And if so, has anyone here ever tried running it in Ubuntu?  I saw that it has apparently only been tested on RedHat and SUSE, but surely it should be able to run on Feisty as well, right?
[01:48] <Srixon> wait oen sec..
[01:48] <Eagleray> Quak3r: Hello, do you have a question?
[01:48] <Srixon> Flash drive time
[01:48] <Quak3r> anyone could help me out with the CLI and aiglx drivers?? ty
[01:49] <jrib> amro: read teh page from ubotu, it explains how to use sudo.  There's no need for a root password
[01:49] <zak> after installing ubuntu, XP gives an error about "No NTLDR" or whatever.. it's on a FAT32 partition (it's the first time i've dual booted with XP on a FAT partition, and the first time i've had problems, so i'm guessing they might be related).. any suggestions?
[01:49] <npnufn> damjan|work; may be I should leave it.  however thanks a lot!
[01:49] <Quak3r> Eagleray, need help with the CLI's - they work but do not appear after the X11 starts up
[01:49] <Eagleray> jrib: there is no _need_, but it's a damn sight more convenient to use su
[01:49] <damjan|work> npnufn: real is proprietary shit... better use something else :)
[01:49] <Quak3r> Eagleray, and I'm using 7.04
[01:49] <Weric> zak NTLDR is part of the windows MBR
[01:50] <Eagleray> Quak3r: I'm not so hot on the 3D X stuff I'm afraid, I don't do much 3D work
[01:50] <Draggin> Suggestions, anyone?
[01:50] <zak> Weric: i know, but why is it only now having problems booting without it?
[01:50] <dystopianray> !dualboot | zak
[01:50] <ubotu> zak: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[01:50] <npnufn> damjan|work; good idea will try with totem.
[01:50] <mikubuntu_> stefg: a) so it's basically taking up real estate on my hardrive? uninstall? b) what are the best security measures to guard against hack attacks?
[01:50] <Jaomi> Why cant i have 4 workspaces when i have unactivated "Desktop Effects"?
[01:50] <Quak3r> Eagleray, OK ty
[01:50] <Weric> zak, I dont know try reinstalling the boot loiader
[01:51] <Pici> zak: run `fixmbr` from the recovery console of your windows install CD, then reinstall Grub.
[01:51] <jrib> Jaomi: right click on the "workspace switcher" applet and go to preferences
[01:51] <Pici> !grib | zak
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <dystopianray> Jaomi: compiz handles virtual desktops on it's own and has different behaviour
[01:51] <Pici> !grub | zak
[01:51] <ubotu> zak: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:51] <Eagleray> Quak3r: There are a lot of people here who _do_ know however
[01:51] <Eagleray> Quak3r: if you wait a bit, someone's sure to help
[01:51] <amro> rib:thx,I will do it later :)  I  am  now  under Fedora6, while ubuntu7.04 att school
[01:51] <amro> jrib:thx,I will do it later :)  I am now under Fedora6, while ubuntu7.04 att school
[01:51] <Quak3r> Eagleray, thanks .. I believe I should not "force" aiglX
[01:51] <Quak3r> Eagleray, thank you
[01:52] <jrib> amro: k
[01:52] <stefg> mikubuntu_: don't run services you don't need. use a NAT router with firewall. Use the grey matter inside your head :-)
[01:52] <Weric> lol
[01:52] <Eagleray> Quak3r: you can quite happily force aiglx, but only if you're familiar with a CLI - if it fails you will have no GUI
[01:53] <Weric> mikubuntu_, you can run intrusion detection also.
[01:53] <freeman>
[01:53] <stefg> !security
[01:53] <ubotu> If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[01:53] <Jaomi> jrib and dystopianray Thanks =)
[01:53] <Srixon> dystopianray: i cannot get the lspci bin to come to the chat window, what are ou looking for specifically?
[01:53] <dystopianray> Srixon: pastebin the output of lspci
[01:53] <mikubuntu_> weric: can u suggest which?
[01:54] <Srixon> Dystopianray: I Can't its another computer that ubuntu is on.
[01:54] <Pici> !paste | Srixon
[01:54] <ubotu> Srixon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:54] <dystopianray> Srixon: i just want to see the lien for the wifi card
[01:54] <Srixon> Ok
[01:54] <Draggin> The kernel on Ubuntu 7.04 is something like 2.6, right?
[01:54] <Srixon> one second ill type it out
[01:54] <Weric> mikubuntu_, Snort
[01:54] <Quak3r> Eagleray, thanks I will try to make it work - I'm forcing aiglx with beryl - this might be it
[01:54] <penny> hallo
[01:55] <Quak3r> i hope it is
[01:55] <Eagleray> Quak3r: good luck
[01:55] <Srixon> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini - PCI Card (rev 01)
[01:55] <Melancholy> ahha!
[01:55] <Melancholy> Seems like we are solving problem what i have :)
[01:55] <zak> none of this GRUB info seems to help.. i've never had problems booting XP from GRUB before, but now it just says "No NTLDR" and hangs..
[01:56] <Eagleray> penny: Hello, do you have a question?
[01:56] <Eagleray> zak: Are you trying to boot XP from a secondary drive?
[01:56] <zak> Eagleray: nope.. first HD
[01:56] <toastytaco> Does anyone know when Automatix for Gusty 7.10 will be released..??
[01:56] <Eagleray> zak: XP likes being on the first partition of the first drive in the system
[01:56] <Pici> zak: You need to run `fixmbr` from your windows install disk before you can try the techniques in the
[01:56] <dystopianray> toastytaco: you shouldn't be using automatix
[01:56] <Mattias> dystopianray: found out the problem, it is rythmbox, >,< i should have tried in other players before ...
[01:56] <Pici> !automatix | toastytaco
[01:56] <Weric> zak fix the MBR then redo Grub
[01:56] <ubotu> toastytaco: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:56] <Eagleray> zak: if you have it on a different partition you will need to mess with map
[01:56] <Pici> zak: er, techniques on the grub pages.
[01:57] <toastytaco> Why is that???
[01:57] <mikubuntu_> weric: thanks; stefg: what's NAT stand for?
[01:57] <atlfalcons866> is ubuntu studio an official derivative
[01:57] <Eagleray> zak: if it _still_ doesn't boot, start the recovery console on the windows CD and run 'fixboot', then 'fixmbr'
[01:57] <dystopianray> Srixon: did you install the driver from the cd included with your machine?
[01:57] <Eagleray> then reboot to a livecd and restore grub
[01:57] <dystopianray> toastytaco: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html
[01:58] <Pici> toastytaco: We don't support Automatix and we strongly discourage its use, as it often breaks systems.
[01:58] <Eagleray> mikubuntu_: NAT usually means Network Address Translation
[01:58] <Weric> mikubuntu_, NAT= type of firewall
[01:58] <Srixon> I do not have that CD as this laptop was given to me, and i looked up my exact model number through the HP website and i have the newest driver for my card. BCMWL5
[01:58] <toastytaco> ok then....let me read up on it...thanx
[01:59] <mikubuntu_> dystopianray: what about linspire's cnr (click and run) product; have you had any sperience with it yet?
[01:59] <dystopianray> mikubuntu_: i haven't, sorry
[01:59] <stefg> mikubuntu_: network address translation ... a router gets an IP from the ISP and uses that for Internet (WAN) side, but translates this into a private subnet on the Local (LAN) side
[01:59] <Eagleray> Weric: NAT isn't a type of firewall, it's a routing technique
[01:59] <Weric> Eagleray, OK i was tring to keep it simple
[02:00] <Eagleray> Weric: a nice side-effect of NAT is ir prevents incoming connections reaching machines behind the router unless ports are deliberately mapped
[02:00] <Eagleray> Weric: oh lol haha fair call
[02:00] <Eagleray> Weric: sorry for interrupting then
[02:00] <Weric> Eagleray, np, you were not.
[02:00] <linuxbassman> poke
[02:01] <Eagleray> linuxbassman: what?
[02:01] <Eagleray> linuxbassman: do you have a question?
[02:01] <lorenzo__> who know the program NAIM
[02:02] <mikubuntu_> appreciate the comments; thanks
[02:02] <danya> hello ... I cant seem to install emerald .. anyone ? I'm on feisty 64-bit
[02:03] <stefg> !ubuntu-effects | danya
[02:03] <ubotu> danya: For help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.
[02:04] <mikubuntu_> stefg: guess i won't bother uninstalling clam for now; gonna do complete fresh install of gutsy in a few weeks on this laptop, that should take care of it
[02:07] <MartinW> Sound recorder doesn't work, when I press record it seems to record (except for the time bar not moving) but when I press stop and then play nothing happens. When I try to save I get "Could not save the file "Invalid parameters"" I have a headset microphone and I run Ubuntu 7.04.
[02:07] <MartinW> Did I miss some important setting?
[02:07] <Fxyz4ever> fuck
[02:07] <jrib> !ohmy | Fxyz4ever
[02:07] <ubotu> Fxyz4ever: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:07] <Fxyz4ever> f**k, it's ok this?
[02:07] <jrib> MartinW: that program is buggy, I would use something else to test.  bugs.ubuntu.com has a bug about it if you want to read
[02:08] <MartinW> OK, how about audacity?
[02:08] <jrib> Fxyz4ever: best to not use either and just ask your question
[02:08] <Weric> Laser all, thanks Steven.
[02:08] <jrib> MartinW: sure, that's fine afaik
[02:08] <MartinW> Thanks for the help.
[02:09] <MartinW> I thought it was my microphone and searched everywhere to unmute it, ;-)
[02:09] <Fxyz4ever> in a dual boot, is there a way to share the torrents in azureus both in win and in ubuntu?
[02:09] <bspindler> hey guys/gals, how can I upgrade from edgy to feisty via the CD?
[02:09] <jrib> !upgrade > bspindler (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:10] <jrib> !ext3 > Fxyz4ever (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:10] <jrib> Fxyz4ever: windows can read and write to your linux partition if you install a driver (see ubotu)
[02:10] <Weric> jrib, what bot do you use here?
[02:10] <jrib> Weric: it's a supybot
[02:11] <Weric> jrib OK cool thanks
[02:11] <Weric> Laser all
[02:11] <Weric> Later too
[02:11] <Eagleray> Weric: eh?
[02:11] <Fxyz4ever> jrib: it's not that the problem, i have already ntfs-3g on ubuntu, but even if i put the same download directory both in win and linux, azureus can't continue the downloads
[02:11] <Weric> Eagleray, ? just thanks
[02:12] <Rabbitbunny> Just installed 7.04, there are 119 updated files?
[02:12] <jrib> Fxyz4ever: don't know then, try #azureus
[02:12] <MeRodent> Rabbitbunny, sounds about right.
[02:12] <Eagleray> Weric: nah I meant 'what does Laser All' mean?
[02:12] <npnufn> what is the easiest way to download rtsp:// files.
[02:12] <dystopianray> Rabbitbunny: that's right
[02:12] <npnufn> is there any wget extension for this.
[02:13] <Rabbitbunny> Oh. assumed I screwed dsomthing up.
[02:13] <dystopianray> npnufn: probably not
[02:13] <Eagleray> Weric: oh.... you meant later... my bad, I'm sleepy
[02:13] <Weric> Eagleray, :) it was atypo, Later all.
[02:13] <jrib> npnufn: if mplayer can play it, you can grab with the "-dumpstream" switch
[02:13] <dystopianray> Rabbitbunny: 7.04 was released in april, there have been a lot of updates since then
[02:13] <Blazkowicz> hello, I seem to have a problem when updating...
[02:13] <Fxyz4ever> jrib: anyway thank you
[02:13] <MeRodent> Rabbitbunny, at least ubuntu lets you know as opposed to windows which just decided to update 108MB for office.
[02:13] <Rabbitbunny> Well. It runs real fast and all.
[02:13] <lutzky> jrib: Is there a similar option for VLC? I know a stream which I can play only with VLC's special rtsp hacks
[02:13] <Rabbitbunny> lol, I love windows 'reboot now or I'll nag you' mode.
[02:13] <npnufn> jrib; what should I do to play/download them with totem.
[02:13] <Blazkowicz> I got to Update and it Times out every time and no matter what server i connect to it does the same thing
[02:14] <dystopianray> Rabbitbunny: they're mainly security updates
[02:14] <dystopianray> Rabbitbunny: and are highly recommended
[02:14] <jrib> lutzky, npnufn: don't know, I just use mplayer
[02:15] <Lhademmor> Hello people - now I'm taking the final step
[02:15] <Blazkowicz> hello??
[02:15] <Rabbitbunny> I'm on DSL, it's a 20min thing, I just thought it was a little high. Of course looking through the list I really like when file and samba are updates
[02:15] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: Hello, do you have a question?
[02:15] <Pale_Brunette> no, sorry
[02:15] <Lhademmor> I've been dual-booting with XP for a long while, but now, in order to free up space for Ubuntu, I'm going to get rid of Windows for good.
[02:15] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: what step?
[02:15] <Blazkowicz> yes... I go to Update and it says 365 updates and when i update it just hangs on 1 of 365 and says that its timed out
[02:16] <chandu_> hi
[02:16] <chandu_>  I am having" UMAX
  AstraPix PC102" webcam ..
[02:16] <chandu_>  I am trying  to use it , but it is showing drivers are not available .. I am working on 2.6.21 kernel
[02:16] <chandu_>  can anyone help me in solving this problem ..which driver is needed for this devi
[02:16] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: Please address your messages by putting the user you are sending it to on the front of the message
[02:16] <jrib> chandu_: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[02:16] <Lhademmor> I have one question, though - is there any easy way of importing my My Documents folder into Ubuntu, or do I have to do a backup to my external HDD, and then afterwards import into Ubuntu?
[02:16] <Lhademmor> !windows
[02:16] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:16] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: try switching to a different server if yours is timing out
[02:16] <chandu_> jrib, ok
[02:16] <lutzky> Guys, anyone here sometimes getting wonky video artifacts after resuming from suspend? (On an R50e Thinkpad with an Intel 810 graphics card)
[02:17] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: I can use Firefox and some other internet programs besides GAIM, I also have swapped to different servers and still the same problem
[02:17] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: just copy them from within ubuntu
[02:17] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: How many simultaneous connections are running from your IP to the ubuntu servers you are using?
[02:18] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: some of them limit the connection number
[02:18] <Lhademmor> dystopianray, unfortunately I don't have enough room on the Ubuntu partition - and I'm not sure if I should use gparted to give some Windows partition to Ubuntu
[02:18] <NET||abuse> what would people recomend, linuxMCE or mythTV
[02:18] <Eagleray> NET||abuse: In my opinion, MythTV
[02:18] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: if you're running out of space just copy them to an external drive then
[02:19] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: WHat you mean by simutaneous connections, You mean how many people i have on the Home Network, If that i have 3 Computers and 1 Console.
[02:19] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: and copy them back to ubuntu after you've removed windows
[02:19] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: I mean how many conections are open at the same time to the ubuntu server, from all of the PCs
[02:19] <Lhademmor> dystopianray - okay, but then it'll have to wait 4 days 'till I get home to my external drive :)
[02:19] <NET||abuse> Eagleray, well, i've installed a box with feisty and myth, just getting my head around it,, but I havn't gotten a clear idea of the features of both in a side by side comparison
[02:20] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: if you are the only one running updates, then simultaneout connections is not the issue
[02:20] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: if you have any freepspace on your windows partition you can shrink it to the minimum and expand your ubuntu partition
[02:20] <Lhademmor> dystopianray, using what? gparted?
[02:20] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: well yea
[02:20] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: yes
[02:20] <Eagleray> NET||abuse: Myth can do more or less anyting, there's tons of extensions
[02:20] <Eagleray> NET||abuse: it also has excellent card support
[02:20] <Jaomi> Can someone recommend me a PDF reader for Ubuntu? : )
[02:20] <Eagleray> Jaomi: kpdf
[02:20] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: shrink and expand a few times until all files have been copied over
[02:20] <austin_> hi
[02:20] <predaeus> Jaomi, evince
[02:20] <dystopianray> Jaomi: kpdf
[02:21] <Lhademmor> dystopianray - when I installed gparted, it started ranting something about "THIS PROGRAM HAS NOT BEEN VERIFIED" or sometihng like that
[02:21] <Eagleray> Jaomi: or xpdf if you don't use kde
[02:21] <Pici> !pdf | Jaomi
[02:21] <ubotu> Jaomi: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[02:21] <austin_> anybody here
[02:21] <austin_> ?
[02:21] <Eagleray> Jaomi: will save you installing the kde libraries
[02:21] <LjL> austin_: hardly
[02:21] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: you can run gparted from the livecd if you want
[02:21] <Pici> austin_: just me and 1135 of my friends
[02:21] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: Well only the computer updating is running while updating
[02:21] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: I don't knwo what that message is about
[02:22] <Lhademmor> okay, screw that, I'll try
[02:22] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: what kind of packet loss rate do you have on your connection? Are you behind a firewall?
[02:22] <chandu_> hey can anyone answer my query
[02:22] <novato_br> how can I know if the computer is connected or non-connected on web?
[02:22] <dgjones> Jaomi, pdf is normally supported automatically with ubuntu in my experience, mine always open automatically with installing anything extra that I can remember
[02:22] <Eagleray> chandu_: what's the issue?
[02:22] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: Let me check
[02:22] <chandu_> I have posted already
[02:23] <chandu_> Eagleray, I ahve posted already
[02:23] <chandu_> Eagleray, its reagarding webcam driver
[02:23] <novato_br> i would like with line command
[02:23] <dthacker> chandu: the probablility of someone having your exact webcam is small.  You need to Google
[02:23] <chandu_> Eagleray, I have "UMAX
[02:23] <chandu_> AstraPix PC102" webcam
[02:23] <Pici> !webcam > chandu_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[02:23] <novato_br> how can I know about web status connections with line command?
[02:24] <dystopianray> novato_br: netstat
[02:24] <Eagleray> !netstat | novato_br
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netstat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <Eagleray> novato_br: use the CLI program called 'netstat'
[02:24] <Vegar> what "thing" is it that controls the backlight? what's making the backlight brightness up/down keys work?
[02:24] <dthacker> novato_br:  at the command line:  man netstat
[02:24] <dystopianray> Vegar: depends on the laptop model and manfacturer
[02:25] <dystopianray> Vegar: if the keys 'just work' then it's probably a hardware switch
[02:25] <Vegar> well
[02:25] <Vegar> they work on every third boot
[02:25] <Knight_On_White> does ubuntu have like on windows xp - start up option ? everytime i do restart for my ubuntu i have to type in terminal : "sudo new-sockets.pl &" can i make this auto when ubuntu start-up ?
[02:26] <novato_br> cool. dystopianray
[02:26] <Vegar> dystopianray: in /sys/class/backlight/ there are three directories, each with their own brightness control thing, only one of which works
[02:26] <novato_br> thx
[02:26] <dystopianray> Knight_On_White: put it in an init script
[02:26] <Eagleray> Knight_On_White: yes, you can do this - just add a script to do it in /etc/init.d
[02:26] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: I only have the Router Firewall and Packet loss, (sorry i'm a bit of a noob) Dont know where to check...
[02:26] <Eagleray> Knight_On_White: then symlink to it from /etc/rc2.d/
[02:26] <novato_br> dystopianray, i'm making the script get know if the computer is connected or no
[02:26] <dystopianray> Vegar: your laptop might have another backlight control mechanism then
[02:26] <Vegar> dystopianray: Do you have a clue on what might be controlling the backlight on a Thinkpad T61?
[02:26] <novato_br> i need about line command to checking
[02:26] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: for packet loss, try this: 'ping -i 0.5 -c 100 google.com'
[02:26] <toastytaco> Knight_On_White: Goto System>Preferinces> Sessions and add the program to run on startup
[02:27] <novato_br> wow, -c 100?
[02:27] <dystopianray> Vegar: no I don't
[02:27] <novato_br> its rude with google, no ?
[02:27] <Eagleray> novato_br: it gives a good average
[02:27] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: in Terminal?
[02:27] <dystopianray> Vegar: it could be anythign and I don't have that model laptop
[02:27] <Eagleray> novato_br: and google doesn't care
[02:27] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: yes, in a terminal
[02:27] <Vegar> dystopianray: do you have any keywords? I have no idea where to look
[02:27] <novato_br> but i think and when the google don't have on line ?
[02:27] <Vegar> dystopianray: do you know what controls the thing that pops up when you adjust the backlight?
[02:28] <dystopianray> Vegar: 'thinkpad t61 backlight linux'
[02:28] <daviem> Vegar:  does the brightness applet work?
[02:28] <dystopianray> Vegar: I don't know what that thing is
[02:28] <sileni> guys what is ths pnpbioss=off thing i have to set
[02:28] <sileni> also live cd doesnt seem to work on this new laptop
[02:28] <Vegar> daviem: it works on every third boot, just like the keys
[02:28] <Eagleray> Anyone know what the kde tray utility for power management is called?
[02:29] <Eagleray> I have no idea what the binary is called
[02:29] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: Pings fine... no packet loss
[02:29] <dystopianray> sileni: try the gutsy cd if the laptop is very new
[02:30] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: can you browser the repository with your web browser?
[02:30] <daviem> Vegar:  try searching for gnome-power-manager backlight
[02:30] <stefg> Eagleray: ask #kubuntu ?
[02:30] <sileni> dystopianray, well i bought it 1 month ago is that new enough ?
[02:30] <Eagleray> stefg: lol probably a good idea - din't think of that, I'm not a kubuntu user
[02:30] <dystopianray> sileni: yes, feisty was released in april
[02:31] <sileni> where do i get gusty
[02:31] <sileni> i thought they didnt release it yet
[02:31] <stefg> !gutsy
[02:31] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:31] <dystopianray> sileni: try one of the alpha releases
[02:31] <dgjones> !tribe6 | sileni
[02:31] <ubotu> sileni: Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) Tribe 6 is not a formal release, but rather a bugfixing milestone.  Please see http://tinyurl.com/3ytk9g for more information.
[02:31] <SlimeyPete> sileni: they haven't, but if you ask in #ubuntu+1 then someone will tell you where to get the prelease software
[02:32] <sileni> thank you people
[02:32] <Vegar> daviem: Will do, thanks
[02:32] <dystopianray> sileni: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/
[02:32] <Lhademmor> dystopianray, when opening GParted - how do I resize a partition?
[02:32] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: should be an option when you right click on a partition
[02:32] <instabin|work> Can use ssh as a vpn connection?
[02:33] <Lhademmor> dystopianray: Yes, but it's grayed out
[02:33] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: I don't remember the exact way to do it, but I do remember it being very trivial and obvious
[02:33] <Eagleray> instabin|work: Yes, although it's not always the most stable
[02:33] <Eagleray> instabin|work: what are you wanting to do with it?
[02:33] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: is there enough freespace to shrink the partition?
[02:33] <coffeelzp> ?SB
[02:33] <Lhademmor> 12 GB
[02:33] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: ahhh, please explain, do you mean, Gnome Web Browser Extensions?
[02:33] <dystopianray> Lhademmor: defragment the windows partition
[02:33] <Lhademmor> I've already done that, I think
[02:33] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: nope - the ubuntu repositories are served up directly via http and sometimes ftp
[02:33] <nb_au> wheres the catalyst control center exec located?
[02:34] <sileni> dystopianray, are you using gusty ?
[02:34] <instabin|work> Eagleray: comcast is not working 100% and we cant get to some sites at work. I was going ot filter the interentconnection through mine at home so they could access the sites
[02:34] <coffeelzp>
[02:34] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: you can just type the URL into yout browser and have a look through the repositories that way
[02:34] <dystopianray> sileni: no
[02:34] <dystopianray> sileni: I don't have brand new hardware that needs it
[02:34] <coffeelzp> hello .
[02:34] <coffeelzp> Hello
[02:34] <linuxemacs> hi
[02:34] <Eagleray> instabin|work: openvpn would be a better bet, ssh isn't that reliable as a vpn - if it drops the connection you're screwed
[02:34] <Eagleray> !openvpn | instabin|work
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openvpn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <coffeelzp> you know this.
[02:35] <stefg> !cn
[02:35] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:35] <LjL> !info openvpn
[02:35] <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.9-5 (feisty), package size 328 kB, installed size 988 kB
[02:35] <Eagleray> ! kindergarten | ubotu
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kindergarten - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <instabin|work> Eagleray: I dont realy what to setup openvpn at home. just a temp solution.
[02:35] <instabin|work> Eagleray: how do i run ssh to do it?
[02:35] <sileni> dystopianray, downlaod so slow 549 kb / sec :(
[02:35] <Eagleray> instabin|work: Openvpn is actually pretty simple as long as you stick to the pre-shared encryption
[02:35] <instabin|work> I have putty on the windows machines here at work
[02:36] <fractal2> don't mind me. I'm just here to learn in the background for now. This chat is always full with people helping eachother. It really gives me a sense of the linux community. Thank you to all of you. :)
[02:36] <Eagleray> instabin|work: it's considerably easier to set up than an ssh vpn
[02:36] <linuxemacs> hi all
[02:36] <toastytaco> I have a Ubuntu Podcast Show and wanted to know if anyone on the dev team for the new gusty would be interested in a short interview? My podcast is located at http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=46927&cmd=tc
[02:36] <dystopianray> sileni: KB/s ?
[02:36] <sileni> yea?
[02:36] <sileni> thats what it says so slow, only download 11 pct so far
[02:36] <stefg> toastytaco: that's better suited for #ubuntu-marketing
[02:36] <dystopianray> sileni: that is insanely fast, I don't know why you are complaining
[02:37] <toastytaco> ok then thanks...I will take it up there...
[02:37] <Eagleray> instabin|work: if you _really_ need an ssh tunnel, try just forwarding one or two ports to a proxy running on your home connection rather than piping the connections straight through it
[02:37] <brownie17> is there a repo prog that will convert swf to avi or mpg?
[02:38] <Eagleray> instabin|work: TCP connections behave a little weirdly when piped through an ssh VPN
[02:38] <VSpike> I've got flash 9 installed in firefox, but in konqueror and swiftfox, I only get flash 7.  Any idea how I can fix this?
[02:38] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: Yes i can access them through the web browser
[02:38] <dystopianray> VSpike: uninstall flash 7
[02:38] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: try running apt-get update again then, then try running your upgrade
[02:38] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: are you using apt-proxy at all?
[02:39] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: No
[02:39] <Blazkowicz> Eagleray: Will try to do that
[02:39] <Eagleray> Blazkowicz: good :D
[02:39] <instabin|work> Eagleray: Well doesnt mater now I cant access my home machine.  Like linux.com linuxtoday.com.
[02:40] <instabin|work> google works
[02:40] <instabin|work> youtubeworks.
[02:40] <instabin|work> americanfunds.com dotnwork
[02:40] <Eagleray> instabin|work: cache:www.the.correct.site.com
[02:41] <brownie17> dystopianray, umm. yes?
[02:41] <Eagleray> instabin|work: google's good like that
[02:41] <brownie17> dystopianray, i initially made that same mistake. it's definately a swf though
[02:41] <Arafangion> Hey, for some reason firefox will not load. How might I investigate this problem?
[02:41] <brownie17> dystopianray, any idea? ffmpeg can do flv, but not swf
[02:41] <instabin|work> Eagleray: Yea but the sites we need work off data base and the info was updated lastnight at 12:00
[02:41] <dystopianray> brownie17: i doubt there is any program to do that, swf is a non-linear vector format, it's non-trivial to convert to a standard video file
[02:41] <Arafangion> I've moved my ~/.mozilla to attempt to fix the issue, and also tried starting it in safe mode, but it just doesn't ever appear.
[02:41] <Eagleray> instabin|work: aha - what site?
[02:41] <brownie17> dystopianray, hmm.. okay good point
[02:41] <Eagleray> instabin|work: and how much data?
[02:41] <Eagleray> instabin|work: I may consider mirroring it for you
[02:41] <instabin|work> Eagleray: Special Catipiller supplier site
[02:42] <daning> bye
[02:42] <Eagleray> instabin|work: URL?
[02:42] <instabin|work> ec.cat.com
[02:42] <instabin|work> eagleray: its an https
[02:42] <Eagleray> instabin|work: umm, it's private
[02:42] <Eagleray> instabin|work: so I can't mirror it
[02:43] <Eagleray> instabin|work: do you have a server with ssh and outgoing https that you cna access?
[02:43] <instabin|work> Eagleray: yes.. its how we know what parts we are supposed to make
[02:43] <lnx_> i have one DVD-rom how i can the content of the CD in this dvd rom ?
[02:43] <Eagleray> instabin|work: I cna give you an ssh command to remap the connnection to that site
[02:43] <Pici> !away > zizdodrian|sleep (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[02:43] <dystopianray> lnx_: you need to explain more clearly
[02:43] <instabin|work> Eagleray: nope the only one i would have access to is my home computer.
[02:44] <instabin|work> Eagleray: Hopefully comcast will have it fixed soon
[02:44] <lnx_> dystopianray , in windows xp i have "my computer" wheere i can see all my device like cd rom  . . . how i can see this is ubuntu ?
[02:44] <Eagleray> instabin|work: ok, hold up - can you access http://osiris.erayd.net/phpsysinfo/ ?
[02:44] <dystopianray> lnx_: doesn't gnome have a devices thing you can look at?
[02:44] <instabin|work> Eagleray: yes
[02:45] <dystopianray> lnx_: if you put in a cd it should just appear on your desktop
[02:45] <lnx_> i dont know im asking . . .
[02:45] <Eagleray> instabin|work: OK hang on, I'll see if I cna do a proxy for you
[02:45] <instabin|work> Eagleray: Thanks
[02:45] <lnx_> dystopianray , it doesnt i turned this off , i want to go to there maually
[02:45] <Pici> lnx_: From the places menu, go to filesystem.
[02:46] <lnx_> Pici , ok
[02:46] <lnx_> Pici , im in root ( / ) where i need togo now ?
[02:47] <Pici> lnx_: hold on a second, let me boot my gui
[02:47] <NET||abuse> Eagleray, I've a pinacle tv card, http://tinyurl.com/29oacl how can i figure out what i need to support it in MythTV
[02:48] <Arafangion> genii: How do you have it?
[02:48] <FFighter> How am I supposed to install the murrina gtk engine ?
[02:48] <VSpike> dystopianray: the strange thing is, I'm not sure why/how it *is* installed
[02:48] <FFighter> just configure, make and make install is enough?
[02:48] <FFighter> Or do I have to load it somewhere in gnome confs?
[02:48] <FFighter> any ideas?
[02:49] <VSpike> dystopianray: if I do "aptitude search flash", it doesn't show anything isntalled
[02:49] <genii> Arafangion: Black, no sugar, in largest mug I can find
[02:49] <dystopianray> VSpike: i'm nto sure why it'd be installed either
[02:49] <cerneula> hello, is it possible to tag files in Ubuntu and are save searches of virtual folders as in Windows Vista? thank you
[02:49] <VSpike> dystopianray: any idea where i can find the plugin directories?
[02:49] <Scarey> FFighter: i believe that if you try and do make etc. you'll get an error if something is missing
[02:49] <Arafangion> genii: Hmm, I'm going to assume perculated, then. :)
[02:50] <NET||abuse> Does anyone know what i should do here? I've a pinacle tv card, http://tinyurl.com/29oacl what do i need to do to support it in MythTV
[02:50] <genii> Arafangion: yup
[02:50] <lnx_> i have back so where is my cd rom ?
[02:50] <Pici> lnx_: sorry, its the Computer item under places
[02:50] <Arafangion> genii: I rarely have that style, but it's a nice way of having it. I usually have double-shot short blacks, with none. :)
[02:50] <Arafangion> genii: But 90% of the cafe's ruin it. :(
[02:51] <dystopianray> VSpike: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ?
[02:51] <genii> FFighter: Usually the make install part will install some default conf files
[02:53] <Eagleray> instabin|work: sorry about the delay, working on the proxy at the mo
[02:54] <instabin|work> Eagleray: Its ok
[02:54] <tkp> anyone know where there is a good tutorial about setting up firewall on Ubuntu - without aGUI?
[02:54] <Eagleray> tkp: try 'man iptables'
[02:54] <Eagleray> tkp: it's explained incredibly well
[02:54] <tkp> I was thinking of using AFP, as it's supposed to be simpler
[02:54] <tkp> but AFP isn't in the Ubuntu p[ackage repo (as far as I can see)
[02:55] <VSpike> dystopianray: there's a libflashplayer.so in there.. can I find out somehow what version it is?  Or, does the browser have a plugins information tool?  I know Opera does.
[02:56] <dystopianray> VSpike: about:plugins works in konq
[02:58] <Jygzy-> anyone know any SCP file managers?
[02:58] <Karotte> hm could someone help me test something?
[02:58] <Karotte> type gpg --batch --yes --delete-key blablablalbla
[02:58] <Karotte> in the shell
[02:58] <dystopianray> Jygzy-: konqueror
[02:59] <Karotte> then search vor this command in the history (CTRL-R gpg...)
[02:59] <Karotte> end press the "end" key or CTRL-E
[02:59] <Karotte> does the cursor go to the end of the line?
[02:59] <VSpike> dystopianray: should they all in theory use the same plugin directories?
[02:59] <jrib> Karotte: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[02:59] <Karotte> in my case it stays somewhere in the middle
[02:59] <Karotte> jrib: okay sory
[02:59] <dystopianray> VSpike: yes
[03:00] <instabin|work> Eagleray: Is that proxy being a pain?
[03:00] <dystopianray> VSpike: they are all usually symlinked to look in the same places
[03:00] <Eagleray> instabin|work: slightly, it's spitting out 403 access denied
[03:00] <Eagleray> instabin|work: I'm messing with the apache config on my server atm
[03:00] <VSpike> dystopianray: well both swiftfox and konq show flash 7 and flash 9 there, with the same filenames, so I guess they all must be looking in more than one place
[03:01] <dystopianray> VSpike: that is possible
[03:01] <VSpike> dystopianray: just waiting for find / -name libflashplayer.so to complete
[03:01] <dystopianray> VSpike: there is a plugin section in konqueror's settings, see what path it is using for flash 7
[03:01] <Chousuke> VSpike: locate might've been faster :P
[03:01] <sanguisdex> so I head all this hubbub about the new ATI drivers and installed them according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3-2 and now when I log in using beryl all I get is distorted lines accross the screen? can any one help me?
[03:01] <kritzstapf> which ftp-client do you recommend for xubuntu?
[03:01] <Chousuke> VSpike: unless it's a recent file :)
[03:02] <Falstius> VSpike: or find /usr -iname 'libflashplayer*'
[03:02] <VSpike> Chousuke: what's the difference? I've never really used locate
[03:02] <Chousuke> locate has a database it searches
[03:02] <Chousuke> it's refreshed every day I think.
[03:02] <VSpike> ah, the only other one is in /home/johncc/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[03:03] <sams> can i use squid for personal browsaing ????
[03:03] <jrib> Karotte: works fine here by the way
[03:05] <Karotte> jrib: hm okay
[03:05] <dystopianray> sams: yes you can
[03:06] <sanguisdex> can any one help me w/ the new ATI drivers, all I am getting is a very distorted screen when I log in
[03:06] <Jaomi> When i watch movies in Totem, or Xine, they are WAY to bright.
[03:06] <Jaomi> Any idea on how to fix that? :S
[03:06] <gogeta> new ati drivers?
[03:06] <sanguisdex> ati just realeased new ati drivers
[03:07] <sams> hello frinds how r u all ??
[03:07] <sams> i have new ubuntu the latest 7.04 ver
[03:07] <sanguisdex> I went and followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI nad now all I get is destorted lines omn the screen
[03:07] <alemmer> GSnes9x doesn't work in xUbuntu?
[03:07] <Eagleray> instabin|work: sorry about the delay - proxy is now working fine, but hates https
[03:07] <gilster> i got a quick question about my logitech wireless keyboard. It will ony accept one key at a time how do i fix this?>
[03:07] <Eagleray> instabin|work: I'm trying to convince apache to use https at the mo
[03:07] <Eagleray> instabin|work: stand by
[03:08] <sams> i want to install the mplayer for my new ubuntu wich ver of moplayer is for this ubuntu ver ???
[03:08] <demolitio> ok... here's a problem for you.... after installing those drivers and reconfiguring my xorg , the damn driver didn't load. so, I installed the ones off of ubuntu's repo, and now I have a screwed up mouse. screenshot: http://ktownsmen.vounce.com/other/Screenshot.png
[03:08] <demolitio> (ati's)
[03:08] <VSpike> dystopianray: not sure how that one got there.. the one in my home was flash 7, so I just deleted and restarted swiftfox and now its fine
[03:08] <VSpike> dystopianray: thanks!
[03:08] <dystopianray> VSpike: no problem
[03:08] <demolitio> >< gah.. forgot it doesn't cap the mouse in a screenshot..
[03:09] <jrib> sams: mplayer is in ubuntu's multiverse repository.  Enable multiverse in the "system -> administration -> software sources" program and then install the "mplayer" package using your favorite package manager (for example, "system -> administration -> synaptic")
[03:11] <demolitio> any offer any suggestions? my mouse pointer looks like a large ladder.
[03:11] <instabin|work> Eagleray: I appreciate all the hard work
[03:14] <Eagleray> instabin|work: ha, got it :D
[03:14] <Eagleray> instabin|work: see private chat
[03:14] <instabin|work> ok
[03:15] <ArmedKing> Is there a way to relocate my root partition? without screwing up the system?
[03:15] <ArmedKing> It's going from SDA5 to SDA1
[03:15] <Eagleray> ArmedKing: yes, you cna move it more or less anywhere as long as you update /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst and your MBR
[03:16] <ArmedKing> So if i cope the data to sda1 and change fstab to sda1 and rerun grub i'm ok?
[03:16] <instabin|work> Eagleray: are you getting my messages?
[03:16] <ark1980> !k3b
[03:16] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[03:17] <ArmedKing> !grub
[03:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:18] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ArmedKing: I might suggest you try to make a copy of your root and get it to work as sda1... sort of a dual boot
[03:18] <ArmedKing> Jack_Sparrow: I'll leave the data on sda5 untill i'm sure sda1 works
[03:19] <Eagleray> instabin|work: the proxy is done, see private chat
[03:19] <Eagleray> instabin|work: I'm not getting your private messages
[03:19] <Eagleray> instabin|work: how are you trying to send?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> LAst time I did that I insatlled fresh ub on the new partition, it setup everything then I copied the old install down to the new partition leavinf fstab and boot grub intact on the new install
[03:21] <instabin|work> Eagleray: yea
[03:21] <ArmedKing> !ntfs
[03:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:21] <instabin|work> Eagleray: I sent you a couple Im getting yours though
[03:21] <astro76> instabin|work, you need to register your nick
[03:21] <Infidel> why fuse or 3g?
[03:21] <ArmedKing> Whats better Fuse or ntfs-3g?
[03:21] <Infidel> whats wrong with native write support
[03:22] <aLeSD> hi all
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> 3g
[03:22] <aLeSD> where I can download ubuntu 7.10 ?
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> there is no native write support for ntfs drives.. read only
[03:22] <ArmedKing> !ntfs-3g
[03:22] <Infidel> ubuntu.com?
[03:22] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:22] <abbe> hi every1
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> aLeSD: ask in #Ubuntu+1
[03:22] <abbe> if i have a folder on the desktop
[03:22] <Infidel> Jack_Sparrow, freebsd can write ntfs :P
[03:23] <Infidel> im just not brave enough to try
[03:23] <aLeSD> Jack_Sparrow thanks+
[03:23] <abbe> whats the path to the folder?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Infidel: It uses a driver it isnt native...
[03:23] <astro76> abbe, ~/Desktop/
[03:23] <Infidel> yeah... you know what i mean
[03:23] <abbe> ok :)
[03:23] <abbe> ty
[03:23] <npnufn> can some one point me to a good application for linux which can download streaming audio/video(RTSP).  Tried with totem & mplayer but failed.
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Infidel: And not I am not brave enough either, I keep a fat32 to share between XP and Ub
[03:24] <demolitio> ok... now I have a big problem. after installing the new drivers off of ati's site, rolling back, and using the ones in the ubuntu repo, my mouse pointer is corrupt (looks like a big ladder), and every time I log out, I am greeted with a blank screen. in addition to this, synaptic package managerand the restricted drivers manager both crash when I start them up. help?
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> demolitio: it isnt that easy to roll stuff back.  How did you install the ati drivers from their site?>
[03:25] <usr_rob> need some help how to start ftpexecd before proftpd in init.d at boottime
[03:25] <jrib> npnufn: can mplayer play it?
[03:25] <genii> usr_rob: Rename the files so they appear alphabetically in the order you want them to run
[03:25] <npnufn> jrib; no.
[03:25] <jrib> npnufn: have you installed w32codecs?
[03:26] <demolitio> jack_sparrow: downloaded the ati installer, and ran the file. (after I had de-selected the restricted driver that was loaded).
[03:26] <jrib> usr_rob: take a look 'man update-rc.d', it explains how to set what starts first
[03:26] <sandesh> i have downloaded skype.deb file. .
[03:26] <sandesh> how to install it
[03:26] <usr_rob> jrib, okey, thx a lot!
[03:26] <usr_rob> genii, thx :)
[03:26] <npnufn> no. they are not in the default repositories.
[03:27] <jrib> !w32codecs > npnufn (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:27] <sandesh> i hv downloaded .deb file hw to install it
[03:27] <sandesh> ???
[03:27] <jrib> !skype > sandesh (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> sandesh: Why not use skype from the repository by using synaptic?
[03:27] <genii> sandesh: sudo dpkg -i <debname>
[03:27] <sandesh> k ..
[03:27] <^extreme^> wow
[03:28] <npnufn> jrib; I heared that skype is not effecient on linux, is it route.  Because when I tried it was really bad compared to wengophone.
[03:28] <usr_rob> always friendly people at #ubuntu ;) ..
[03:28] <jrib> npnufn: I've never tried it
[03:28] <npnufn> jrib; I heared that skype is not effecient on linux, is it true.  Because when I tried it was really bad compared to wengophone.
[03:29] <VSpike> npnufn: the latest betas are a lot better than earlier versions
[03:29] <sandesh> how install skype from repository
[03:29] <demolitio> but at any rate, there's no way I can get into synaptic or the restricted manager.... and i'm having a hard time using my mouse with a 3-inch long pointer that looks like a ladder :P
[03:29] <VSpike> npnufn: it's now very usable on a daily basis
[03:29] <npnufn> jrib; thanks
[03:30] <sandesh> how to install skype from repository
[03:30] <jrib> sandesh: did you receive a private message from ubotu?
[03:30] <sandesh> ya.
[03:30] <sandesh> i will go throuh it ..
[03:30] <jrib> sandesh: that link he gave you explains in detail, just ask here if something isn't clear there
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> system admin synaptic  upper button for search..etc
[03:31] <npnufn> VSpike; still it is in beta.  do you know any solution that provides the yahoo, google talk protocalls
[03:32] <VSpike> npnufn: not that I know of.  Like I say, I use skype on linux all the time, find it pretty good mostly
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> demolitio: get into recovery mode on boot with escape... then sudo if needed...   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:33] <npnufn> VSPike will try the new one.  is it version 1.4 or any latest is there?
[03:33] <VSpike> npnufn: version 1.4 yep
[03:33] <ArmedKing> Omg ntfs is a pain
[03:33] <ArmedKing> Any fast way to convert?
[03:33] <genii> demolitio: After reconfiguring xserver from recovery mode, use    telinit 2        to resume normal operation without reboot
[03:34] <demolitio> @ jack_sparrow ok, will do...
[03:34] <demolitio> wish me luck :p
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ArmedKing: other than delete the ntfs, remake at ext3 and format?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> demolitio: vesa and a res at or below 1024 will get you back in
[03:35] <demolitio> k
[03:35] <ArmedKing> Jack_Sparrow: Ah well, Had to rearange some day :p
[03:36] <jab> test
[03:36] <nijaba> jab: success
[03:36] <Crozar> can any1 tell me whats with Sabayon Linux?
[03:37] <Pici> Crozar: Its gentoo based, ask in #sabayon
[03:37] <Crozar> Pici:  its gentoo>? whats gentoo and whats diffrent between it and UbuntU :D
[03:38] <Hadeshorn> !ati
[03:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:38] <RAdam1> Crozar: the difference is about 3 hours of installation. D:
[03:38] <Crozar> installations?
[03:38] <Koji> hello everyone :)
[03:39] <Pici> !away > Dragon64 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:39] <Crozar> i only love a linux which is stabled , good to use like ubuntu and fast and supporting all hardwares , does ur updates , easy to install and find.
[03:39] <genii> Crozar: Then gentoo is not what you want
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Crozar: If you are new to linux... you might want to at least stick with debian derivitaves until you get a good understanding of some of the others like gentoo...
[03:40] <Crozar> im thinking of buying Linspire and let it Multi boot with UbuntU , Windows , Linspire
[03:40] <Koji> im a complete newbie on linux and ubuntu, so what version of linux should i be going for?
[03:40] <bill__> ubuntu.
[03:41] <Pe3k> hello, pls I can't play video files fullscreen with mplayer in feisty fawn. with dapper it works good on same box. (I use -vo xv option in dapper but this doesn't help in feisty) any idea?
[03:41] <jatt> 2.6
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Crozar: I dual with XP and Ub... seems to be all I need
[03:41] <fractal2> I have ubuntu 7.04. It works fine, except when i first turn on the computer, after showing the Dell sign, the computer monitor goes blank for around 40-60 seconds and then ubuntu starts up. The delay happens when I shut down too. Anyone know why that is? Is ubuntu suppossed to act that way?
[03:41] <Crozar> whats gentoo please tell me :) , my understanding that linux is just linux system and same as any operating system , System Files , Program files , Hardware drivers , INterface
[03:41] <Crozar> so any1 can talk to me some widow language to give me a loop of my understanding
[03:41] <sams> hello
[03:41] <Pe3k> sams:hello
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Koji: Feristy 7.04 is very nice, stable release
[03:42] <Koji> i also dual boot but id rather use ubuntu/linux. so as soon as i learn linux inside out il still use windows for the time being
[03:42] <m1r> Crozar , google is your friend
[03:42] <Xteven> hello, I have an odd question ;)
[03:42] <Crozar> no im on ubuntu starts and shutdown fast on a 2001 laptop Satelite 1955 s801
[03:42] <Koji> i think thats the version i have, ubuntu feisty 7.04
[03:42] <sams> i was using synapitic for mplayer but during that i got power problem now i want to do it again plz guide me ??
[03:42] <Xteven> I heard somewhere that ubuntu support people need to adhere to some guidelines saying that they need to be friendly and patient and such things
[03:42] <genii> Crozar: This is not the right channel to ask about comparisons or details of other types of linux than ubuntu, it is for ubuntu-specific assistance :)
[03:42] <Xteven> can anyone point my to a document that says this ?
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Xteven: the coc
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !coc
[03:43] <Xteven> coc, I'll look it up
[03:43] <fractal2> darn, i wonder what's wrong with mine :(
[03:43] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:43] <erUSUL> Xteven: Irc guidelines and the code of conduct
[03:43] <Xteven> ah :)
[03:43] <Xteven> thx !
[03:43] <Pici> !guidelines | Xteven
[03:43] <ubotu> Xteven: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:43] <fractal2> someone told me something about a custom kernel i'm missing, or something like that.
[03:43] <saturn04> Hi all!
[03:44] <Jeruvy> how come when I right click on a folder and select properties and then permission then change the permissions, 'nothing happens'???
[03:44] <jetscreamer> you're not worthy
[03:44] <sams> i want to play mpeg files on feisty 7.04 is the mplayer for  dapper or edgy supports the feisty 7.04 ???
[03:44] <erUSUL> Jeruvy: maybe you do not have the permisions to change the permisions...
[03:44] <jetscreamer> or, don't have permission
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeruvy: Do you have permission to change those permissions?  Are you using gksodu nautilus or something to get root access?
[03:45] <erUSUL> sams: you can install mplayer in feisty
[03:45] <Jeruvy> then why doesn't it 'say' I have permissions?
[03:45] <sams> erUSUL: ghiow ???
[03:45] <genii> Jeruvy: You can only change permissions on a file you already have permission to. Otherwise you need to run the command with admin privelege
[03:45] <Jeruvy> this is public_html web space on local ubuntu,
[03:45] <ArmedKing> !ext3
[03:45] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[03:45] <sams> erUSUL: how dear ???
[03:45] <Jeruvy> how do I do this through nautilaus, or is that not possible due to sudo?
[03:46] <erUSUL> Jeruvy: you shouldn't change permisions in /var/www/ folder... just add yourself to the www-data group for example
[03:46] <genii> Jeruvy: Jack_Sparrow explained, use gksudo nautilus   to run it with admin privelege
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeruvy: gksudo nautilus                       but be careful .. big tools make for big mistakes
[03:47] <erUSUL> sams: sudo apt-get install mplayer' or with synaptic or Aplications>Add/Remove
[03:47] <Jeruvy> erUSUL: the space is in $HOME
[03:47] <Jeruvy> erUSUL $HOME/public_html
[03:47] <erUSUL> Jeruvy: i see
[03:47] <vasanthv16> When is 7.10 expected to be released? Is there a place where I can find more info on that?
[03:47] <saturn04> Yesterday I installed Ubuntu 7.04 to 1 PC in my primary school. All PC's are connected to Internet Through the proxy. I configured Firefox to work through proxy and all works well. So Shall I change some configs to let Ubuntu download packages or not?
[03:47] <genii> vasanthv16: Info on that in #ubuntu+1
[03:48] <erUSUL> !gutsy | vasanthv16
[03:48] <ubotu> vasanthv16: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:48] <Jeruvy> So why wouldn't I have permissions, and how do I change permissions?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> vasanthv16: 7 = 2007   10 is the month
[03:48] <[nrx] > what's kicker?
[03:48] <Crozar> i dont want to know whats the diffrence between linux distro's i want to know which is good to have control easy updates easy download programs installing using wine to play games and having hardware updates drivers easily found or using an optimmized one based on linux
[03:48] <Devyll> how can I make a zip archive  ? what's the command ? (i need to compress a directory)
[03:48] <Tomcat_> !info kicker
[03:48] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.2 (feisty), package size 2026 kB, installed size 5936 kB
[03:48] <Jeruvy> more importantly ubuntu should really tell the user and error.
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeruvy: What permissions does it say the folder has now
[03:48] <scalawag> Is it possible to take a downloaded Live-CD ISO and 'install' it to a USB key?
[03:48] <vasanthv16> genii: okie, thanks
[03:49] <Jeruvy> Jack_Sparrow: read only
[03:49] <gnoobie> hello everybody! I need a specific answer...
[03:49] <scalawag> or do I have to burn it to disk and use the key as the destination?
[03:49] <erUSUL> Jeruvy: as Jack_Sparrow said you can use a "rooted" nautilus window (gksu nautilus) or use chown and/or chmod from console (with sudo)
[03:49] <screenname92834> hi folks
[03:49] <NixerX> Hello Everyone. Could someone suggest a Hardware Raid card that is nativey supported in Ubunutu and dosent cost 200 bucks
[03:49] <delta16> hey guy's can some one helep , a got a prblem when trying to install edubuntu on a worksation from the cd :(
[03:49] <gnoobie> I am trying to install MUMPS (in fact the whole US veterans VistA progam) on my edubuntu 7.0.4 Box and I am stuck trying to work out 2 things in particular
[03:49] <gnoobie> 1) which of the following ckages I need from http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm  in order to get "latest GT.M release version"  as suggested in the online installation instructions at http://vistapedia.net/index.php?title=Installation_How_To_VistA_GT.M_Ubuntu_Linux
[03:49] <vasanthv16> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I knew that. But I couldn't see any fanfare about when exactly it would be available for the public...thats why I asked
[03:49] <screenname92834> folks, I notice that sshd is running on my ubuntu box. Can anyone tell me a) why b) how do I switch it off?
[03:49] <Jeruvy> erUSUL; rooted nautilus, is there a how to doc?  I'd love to have one and a rooted shell.
[03:49] <Crozar> something which can let u be happy because as for my 9th day in UbuntU i have been typing about 40 commands just to install realplayer opera and many other things and to fix gfx and network dmz port ect..