[12:12] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: one ends 1 and the other 2
[12:12] <pollyo> madmonk: Hope that helps.  I have to run.
[12:12] <|Iwonder|> ok
[12:12] <pollyo> BBL
[12:12] <madmonk> pollyo: ty i'll try
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Hasrat_USA: not sure, I don't do networking at all
[12:12] <Hasrat_USA> yeah me either
[12:12] <DrX> firecrotch, the thing is, I have a VM in there that is running & working & I don't want to lose it (too many hours invested)
[12:12] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: So far, I lost my 3d accel, because I was trying to figure out why rockbox won't compile. it keeps asking for some gcc stuff that IS installed and I saw an old gcc 9it was 3 i think) and thought maybe i should get rid of it since I had newer versions, but when I put on flgrx it was stupid and used 3 instead of 4 so it uninstalled it and I can't get it back. Also I can't play...
[12:12] <Alonea> ...music from a cd because my system goes all wonky and I do have DMA on my drive. Also can't shutdown, reboot, etc. with FGLRX on...
[12:13] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: all of the #rockbox people are baffled as to why my system wont compile it.
[12:13] <Hasrat_USA> first of all, what's rockbox?
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Hasrat_USA: free / open firmware for music players
[12:13] <Hasrat_USA> in brief
[12:14] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: what he said...
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> grrrr, Launchpad is timing out on me
[12:14] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: its awesome.
[12:14] <Hasrat_USA> and you really need to compile it?
[12:14] <Hasrat_USA> why did you want to build it from the source?
[12:14] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: Oh, i used patches like album art and insert patch.
[12:15] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: So I have to build from source, which I have never had a problem doing before...
[12:15] <Hasrat_USA> I have not tested my cd drive to see if it can play audio cds cause i don't have an audio cd lol
[12:15] <Hasrat_USA> oh okay
[12:16] <Hasrat_USA> i don't have DMA
[12:17] <Hasrat_USA> hmm lots of issues
[12:17] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: oh yes. I accidentally create problems daily it seems.
[12:17] <Hasrat_USA> hoarders would get a pile of money...that's true...hackers that's trueeee
[12:18] <Hasrat_USA> creating problems is fun
[12:18] <Alonea> I don't mean to! it just...happens..
[12:18] <Kr4t05> In Bash-scripting, how do you check SUID?
[12:18] <Hasrat_USA> Alonea: you seem to be a good hacker
[12:19] <egonw> moin. I have a compile problem with shfs with feisty, when using module-assistent it fails to compile for the 2.6.20 kernel.  More like good with problems relating to computers. Actually, I have only had linux for 2 months, though I was constantly killing windows too. I am a computer science major.
[12:20] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: are u still here?
[12:21] <|Iwonder|> yep
[12:21] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: when I get more experienced with code (besides website related stuff and more into C, C++, java) I plan to help out in the rockbox project and other open-source projects
[12:22] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: i'm trying to add my nic as a new zone
[12:23] <|Iwonder|> madmonk:  looking now at guarddog
[12:23] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: Another reason it took me a while to get linux was due to the fact I didn't have my own computer.
[12:23] <|Iwonder|> the zone internet is established
[12:23] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: sorry?
[12:23] <|Iwonder|> this is where you are moving data?
[12:23] <|Iwonder|> my guarddog came with internet zone allready
[12:24] <Hasrat_USA> oh wow
[12:24] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: also mine...
[12:24] <Hasrat_USA> what was the year when you had your own computer?
[12:24] <|Iwonder|> this is where you would enable what you want if you are trying to get data from the internet
[12:25] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: yep...but it doesn't work...
[12:25] <madmonk> :(
[12:25] <|Iwonder|> perhaps your rule is misconfigured
[12:25] <|Iwonder|> a syntax error?
[12:26] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: I have only had my won computer for almost a year and before that I was busy with school stuff so didn't do a lot on my computer except for word processing and internet. Finally gained some time and got back into code which was when I got my linux box.
[12:26] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: i don't think so dude...
[12:27] <|Iwonder|> k you added new protocol on advanced tab?
[12:28] <madmonk> yes
[12:28] <Alonea> Hasrat_USA: I also spent some time beta'ing vista and seeing where windows improved and where it didn't. All I know is that I turned off user access control within 5 minutes...
[12:28] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: TCP 4662 bidirectional
[12:28] <Hasrat_USA> hmm
[12:28] <|Iwonder|> that showed up in internet zone,protocols? and is checked?
[12:29] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: and all the others
[12:29] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: yes
[12:30] <Jisao> is there a kubuntu doc channel?
[12:30] <eilker> what do u do if u forgot your root and user password ??
[12:30] <Hasrat_USA> eilker: i try to remember it
[12:30] <|Iwonder|> madmonk: look in /var/log
[12:30] <eilker> Hasrat_USA> second option ?
[12:30] <|Iwonder|> see if there is a guarddog
[12:30] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:k
[12:30] <|Iwonder|> iplog
[12:30] <Hasrat_USA> eilker: in ubuntu?
[12:31] <|Iwonder|> or something like that
[12:31] <eilker> Hasrat_USA> yes ?
[12:31] <johey_> What's the name of the tool to make it easy to install nvidia drivers, flash, win32codecs and junk like that? If I remember correctly, there are two different tools, of which one is nice and one is ugly. I want the nice one. :)
[12:31] <Hasrat_USA> eilker: if i have physical access to the system, i would just reset it. it's easy
[12:32] <madmonk> |Iwonder|: as usual...iptables is spamming all my logs...
[12:32] <Hasrat_USA> johey_: i know what you're talking about and all of them are ugly :P
[12:32] <|Iwonder|> it say rejected ?
[12:32] <firecrotch> johey_: you're talking about Automatix2, but I would not use it
[12:32] <johey_> Hasrat_USA: I see. Then I'd better go for doing it manually.
[12:33] <firecrotch> !automatix | johey_
[12:33] <Jisao> eilker: http://linuxbasics.org/tutorials/advanced/various/forgot_root_password
[12:33] <ubotu> johey_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> !automount
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <eilker> jisao: thanx
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> !mount
[12:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> !DiskMounter
[12:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> I lost automounting....
[12:34] <johey_> Okay firecrotch. I install them manually.
[12:34] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:holy crap...now my Kad is ok!!
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> in kubuntu edgy...
[12:34] <u0735710> dfasdf
[12:34] <firecrotch> !hotplug
[12:34] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:but not the ed2k
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> yeah...I think it might be HAL but i'm not sure...
[12:35] <|Iwonder|> pmount or hald
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> |Iwonder|: say again?
[12:35] <|Iwonder|> pmount or hald or both,depends on kde version
[12:35] <|Iwonder|> docs seem to contradict
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> so should I check and see if either is runnning?
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> yep.... hal is running
[12:36] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:37] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:I added a new zone...called madmonk...in which i put the addresses of my router and my nic...
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> pmount is not running...
[12:37] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:now it works great!!!
[12:38] <|Iwonder|> you have to creat a zone for what route does?
[12:38] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:so it seems bro!
[12:38] <|Iwonder|> cool\
[12:38] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:now it's working!
[12:39] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:perfectly working! YaaaY!!!
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> ok..looks like hal calls pmount to mount the drive that hal detects....I don't think hal is detecting he drive or something
[12:40] <madmonk> |Iwonder|:thank u very much dude!!!!
[12:41] <|Iwonder|> yw
[12:47] <livingdaylight> my wireless card for Desktop died: Anyone know one that works out of the box with Ubuntu?
[12:47] <evfreshman2025> hey can someone help me out?
[12:50] <Admiral_Chicago> evfreshman2025: you can ask.
[12:50] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure if we can help, we will try
[12:50] <evfreshman2025> oh okay
[12:50] <livingdaylight>  What wireless cards for Desktop come recommended for Ubuntu: i.e. work out of the box
[12:51] <livingdaylight> no configuring or naffing
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> livingdaylight: intel
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> oh, tower ?
[12:51] <luis_> please  link en spanish
[12:51] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago : not laptop -Desktop
[12:51] <evfreshman2025> Ummm for some reason the size of my screen is HUGE, and when i try to make it smaller under "Monitor && Display" it wont let me change the size
[12:51] <luis_> link in spanish
[12:51] <luis_> .
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[12:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> luis_: eso?
[12:51] <luis_> tank
[12:51] <luis_> gracias
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> livingdaylight: hmm, not sure. my brother got a dlink recently and it works with Ubuntu, no mess
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> dunno the model though
 can you help me?
[12:52] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago: dlink, ok, that is what i wanted to hear
[12:52] <|Iwonder|> the chipset is whats important
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yup.
[12:52] <SilentM> I got a Westell, works well with my D-Link router.
[12:53] <|Iwonder|> bcm43xx works
[12:53] <evfreshman2025> okay, so how do i fix it?
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> |Iwonder|: not all the time
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: whats your video chipset?
[12:53] <evfreshman2025> im not sure, how do i find out?
[12:55] <eilker> jisao: do u have experience with it ?
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: "sudo lshw"
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> eilker: good job ;)
[12:56] <Ick> hi
[12:57] <Ick> i'm using a german keyboard
[12:57] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: no need for sudo afaik "lshw -C display" is enough
[12:57] <Ick> the numpad replaces "." with ","
[12:57] <eilker> nosrednaekim> http://linuxbasics.org/tutorials/advanced/various/forgot_root_password trying with this, but no use
[12:57] <Ick> is there a way to change it but retain the remainder of the keyboard layout?
[12:57] <Ick> there are two ways to find out a root password
[12:58] <Ick> 1. have someone who knows it tell you
 I cant find my Video Chipset
[12:58] <Ick> 2. i'm just kidding, there's only one
[12:58] <evfreshman2025> this big screen is really annoying
[12:58] <johey_> Is beryl broken in latest edgy repository?
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: it wasn't in that list?
[12:58] <|Iwonder|> evfreshman2025: lspci
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: "lspci | grep VGA"
[12:58] <eilker> johey_> it is not good
[12:58] <eilker> johey_> i downgraded
[12:58] <johey_> eilker: What is not good?
[12:59] <eilker> johey_> last beryl package in edgy repo...
[12:59] <zaza> guys, does anyone know the modified version of the firefox name? which got no cairo support?
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> bon echo?
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> or iceweasel?
[12:59] <evfreshman2025> this is what i got:
[12:59] <evfreshman2025> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[01:00] <johey_> eilker: Okay. Can I install an older version using apt, or do I have to download the files and dpkg install them?
[01:00] <DrX> any opinions on backing up an offline block device with dd, dd_rescue, bacula, or simple backup?
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: ok....I don't recognize that chipset...
[01:01] <eilker> johey_>i am not sure but i think i used  trevino's repo for it, i have problem with my system , so that i am not able to say to you the repo
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> but its an intel.... so maybe you should install "915resolutio"n
[01:01] <evfreshman2025> so you cant help me by somehow making my screen size smaller?
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> *915resolution
[01:01] <evfreshman2025> the little tab that moves it is like stuck
[01:01] <johey_> eilker: Okay. Thanks anyway!
[01:01] <|Iwonder|> evfreshman2025: just do lspci look for anythging agp or vga related
[01:02] <eilker> johey_> good luck
[01:02] <|Iwonder|> maybe lspci|less
[01:03] <evfreshman2025> compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE C
[01:03] <evfreshman2025> hipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> |Iwonder|: we already did that, look above
[01:03] <|Iwonder|> you greped VGA
[01:04] <evfreshman2025> yeah, so this kinda sorta maybe sucks
[01:04] <|Iwonder|> you will only get results for VGA
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> |Iwonder|: well, isn't that a video card right there?
[01:04] <|Iwonder|> it is possible you need agp modules to get your xorg to work properly
[01:04] <evfreshman2025> My screen size is 640x480 and i need it smaller
[01:05] <|Iwonder|> ] for instance i use apg-64 and radeon
[01:05] <evfreshman2025> and the tab that makes it Bigger or Smaller wont budge
[01:05] <|Iwonder|> or something like thyat
[01:06] <|Iwonder|> evfreshman2025:  that usually means your xorg.conf is wrong and you have only one resolution avaiable
[01:06] <evfreshman2025> So i cant change it AT ALL!?
[01:07] <|Iwonder|> try ctrl+alt+plus sign key
[01:07] <evfreshman2025> ctrl+alt+plus sign key didnt do anything at all
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: pastebin your xorg.conf
[01:08] <evfreshman2025> wait....huh!?
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf there
[01:09] <evfreshman2025> put /etc/X11/xorg.conf under pastebin?
[01:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> what is ghostscript, and do I need it on my computer?
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> evfreshman2025: read that file with a " kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the contents of that file in the pastebin
[01:11] <wolferine> need a hand with apache setup, anyone have a few mins?
[01:11] <wolferine> i want to create a www/ dir in my /usernam
[01:12] <wolferine> and host from there
[01:12] <wolferine> so do I need to edit apache.conf, or create a new .conf for that user?
[01:12] <|Iwonder|> edit
[01:12] <|Iwonder|> there is a line that allows ~user
[01:13] <wolferine> i dont want ~user, i dont think
[01:13] <|Iwonder|> then edit conf source directory to where u want
[01:13] <|Iwonder|> root directory i believe it is termed
[01:13] <wolferine> so I have to edit the apache.conf
[01:13] <|Iwonder|> yes
[01:13] <wolferine> and make the root dir my /user/www
[01:13] <wolferine> k
[01:14] <|Iwonder|> yes
[01:14] <wolferine> where is the apache files at again?
[01:14] <wolferine> and how to I start/restart services?
[01:14] <|Iwonder|> depends on distro
[01:14] <|Iwonder|> mine are in /etc/apache
[01:14] <wolferine> yeah
[01:14] <wolferine> same here
[01:14] <johey_> !sensors
[01:14] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[01:15] <wolferine> do I have to edit it as sudo ?
[01:15] <|Iwonder|> yes or apache and it shouldn't allow the latter
[01:15] <|Iwonder|> if it does fix it
[01:16] <wolferine> and services?
[01:16] <wolferine> how do I restart apache?
[01:17] <dougb> how do you change the KDE time to standard time and not military time
[01:17] <ozgur> selam millet
[01:18] <wolferine> can u use %h:%m:%s anywhere dougb ?
[01:18] <ozgur> bana yardmc olucak birini aryom ya
[01:18] <Jucato> ozgur: English please
[01:19] <Jucato> dougb: right-click on the clock -> Date & Time Format
[01:19] <ozgur> wannt you cann help me?
[01:19] <wolferine> ozgur> try /j #kbuntu-** Your area **
[01:19] <eilker> ozgur: yes
[01:19] <ozgur> thanks
[01:19] <wolferine> or /j #ubuntu-**
[01:19] <ozgur> now
[01:19] <eilker> !tr
[01:19] <rooob> what is the best channel to get help trying to build kde4 from svn? (for some reason cmake cant find my libungif libs!)
[01:19] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:20] <ozgur> m kubuntu
[01:20] <Jucato> rooob: #kde4-devel
[01:20] <eilker> ozgur: ingilizce yaz / we try to help
[01:20] <ozgur> eilker
[01:21] <ozgur> trke biliyonmu?
[01:21] <eilker> ozgur: yes
[01:21] <Tm_T> rooob: I'll help you there
[01:21] <ozgur> iyi
[01:21] <ozgur> bana yardmc olursan sevinirim
[01:21] <Jisao> sorry eilker, you were saying?
[01:21] <meme-1> Hey folks, Is there a way to save a channel list in Konversation? It's pretty slow to have to d/l each time. *OR* is there a better IRC program for Linux (ubuntu)? I don't see MIRC in Synaptic (my fav. for Windows OS).
[01:21] <eilker> ozgur: ubuntu-tr 'ye gel
[01:22] <NightBird> meme-1: mIRC is windows only, though wine runs it just fine
[01:22] <ozgur> u an ordaymda kimse yok
[01:22] <eilker> jisao: do u have experience with it ?
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> meme-1: file server list
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i run irssi myself though
[01:22] <Jisao> With what,  changing the root?
[01:23] <wolferine> how do you restart services?
[01:23] <eilker> jisao: yeah i add single init=/bin/bash to kernel line nothing happens ?
[01:23] <Jisao> I haven't used the init trick, I chrooted from a livecd.
[01:24] <meme-1> Admiral_Chicago: file server list?  I want to save the channel list so I don't have to reload it each time I start up Konversation.
[01:24] <meme-1> NightBird: I'd rather not use Wine... Native Linux is preferred. Is there a better IRC client for Linux?
[01:24] <eilker> Jisao> it is on wmware :(
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> meme-1: sec....
[01:25] <Jisao> Oh. just a sec.
[01:25] <meme-1> What IRC client are you folks using?
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> launch konversation, go to edit
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> meme-1: irssi
[01:26] <Jisao> xchat
[01:26] <wolferine> meme-1, xchat, its the best
[01:26] <eilker> meme-1> konversation
[01:26] <meme-1> thx for the suggestions... I am hoping to find something, at least, nearly as full featured as MIRC.
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> who needs a GUI anyways
[01:27] <|Iwonder|> meme-1: kvirc
[01:27] <wolferine> hmmm, I wouldnt agree with you there meme-1
[01:27] <wolferine> if your looking for another mirc, you might not be happy
[01:27] <meme-1> Admiral_Chicago: If I didn't care about a GUI, I'd still be using my old TRS-80 Model III! LOL
[01:28] <wolferine> how about a great IRC client, now thats what you need
[01:28] <eilker> Admiral_Chicago> forza non-gui , but i like 3d too :lol:
[01:28] <Jisao> eilker, the only thing I can suggest is try asking on this list. Quite a few people use vmware: http://linuxbasics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/qna
[01:28] <|Iwonder|> meme-1:  eveyone has a need and opinion,check each out for your own
[01:28] <Jisao> The resident vmware gurus are not on the channel right now :-(
[01:28] <|Iwonder|> i prefer kvirc ,it seems as near mirc as far as scripting abilitys
[01:28] <meme-1> YEP! That is what I'm going to do. :-)
[01:29] <meme-1> I am a certified VMWARE person. :-)
[01:29] <meme-1> ESX and Windows more specifically.
[01:30] <wolferine> certified?
[01:30] <|Iwonder|> i also like irssi but if i got X i feel i should use a gui
[01:30] <meme-1> wolferine: yes... VCP
[01:31] <meme-1> Everything has a title these days. lol
[01:31] <wolferine> hmm
[01:31] <wolferine> never would have thought
[01:31] <frutax> Adept is telling me that I won't be able to change any thing b/c some instance of apt is open...which of these processes should I kill in KSysGuard?: adept_notifier or apt-index-watch?
[01:31] <wolferine> ok, need some more spoon feeding with this apache install
[01:31] <meme-1> Heck... I'm now studing the Linux + course.
[01:31] <meme-1> There is also RHCP
[01:32] <digital> !beryl
[01:32] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:32] <wolferine> Fedora you mean?
[01:32] <JohnFlux> frutax: any synaptic process?
[01:32] <frutax> JohnFlux, what would they look like?
[01:32] <meme-1> I hate Beryl.... well more accurately, I hate my Intel video card which won't allow me to start Beryl!
[01:32] <JohnFlux> frutax: the process would be called synaptic
[01:32] <JohnFlux> frutax: i mean ;-)
[01:33] <JohnFlux> meme-1: wait for kde4 :-)
[01:33] <frutax> JohnFlux, ok i thought maybe it wasn't that obvious, yeah definitely no synaptic processes running
[01:34] <Kr4t05> Ok... I have a question.
[01:34] <eilker> meme-1> i810 here, and works perfect
[01:34] <JohnFlux> frutax: it would be safe enough to kill the two processes you mentioned
[01:34] <|Iwonder|> frutax: look for dpkg also
[01:34] <frutax> JohnFlux, |Iwonder|, thanks I'll check it out
[01:35] <Kr4t05> Well, nevermind...
[01:35] <wolferine> does kubuntu blcok services, if a server is not running?
[01:35] <wolferine> block*
[01:36] <JohnFlux> wolferine: what does that mean? :)
[01:36] <eilker> wolferine> what do u mean ?
[01:36] <meme-1> eilker: think that is what I have. What was your secret?
[01:36] <JohnFlux> wolferine: there's no default firewall setup
[01:36] <eilker> meme-1> from which repo did u instal it ?
[01:36] <|Iwonder|> who asked about the funny intel chipset earlier
[01:36] <|Iwonder|> "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"
[01:36] <wolferine> say I run an FTP server, apache, and and xdcc bot
[01:37] <wolferine> and I port scan, to find that 21 and 80 are open
[01:37] <wolferine> and thats it
[01:37] <wolferine> how do I open the other port?
[01:37] <Jisao> eilker, you still there?
[01:37] <eilker> jisao: yes here i am
[01:37] <JohnFlux> wolferine: what port does the xdcc bot run on?
[01:37] <wolferine> lets say 999
[01:37] <Jisao> there is somebody on #lbo who knows vmware, if you're interested.
[01:37] <frutax> ok my problem was not fixed, but the error message says that another program is using the packaging system database, and its not apt or synaptic, what could it be?
[01:38] <JohnFlux> wolferine: you don't need to open it or anything
[01:38] <JohnFlux> wolferine: it should just be there
[01:38] <wolferine> to send files, I need to open ports, same as running services
[01:38] <eilker> Jisao> i know vmware too, but my problem to get back my password without using liveCD
[01:38] <wolferine> ok, ill see if "its just there "
[01:38] <JohnFlux> wolferine: there's no firewall
[01:38] <JohnFlux> wolferine: so all ports are 'open'
[01:38] <wolferine> correct, no firewall
[01:39] <|Iwonder|> frutax:  in console type apt-get install <whatever you are installing> it should give you a command
[01:39] <wolferine> no, not all ports are open, if I do a port scan, I only find the services running (unless that means the other ports are open, just not active) ?
[01:40] <JohnFlux> wolferine: whatever wording you want :-)
[01:40] <NightBird> on kubuntu there are no active servers on a default install, so no ports should be listining...
[01:40] <frutax> |Iwonder|, it gave this error: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:40] <frutax> should i try that/
[01:40] <JohnFlux> frutax: try it
[01:40] <|Iwonder|> wolferine: the server will "open" ports
[01:40] <|Iwonder|> for instance in mirc when you set your dcc ports to 2050-2055,when started netstat -l will show them in listen
[01:40] <NightBird> frutax: oh, has adept stoped working?
[01:40] <wolferine> this isnt a default install
[01:41] <frutax> NightBird, yes
[01:41] <|Iwonder|> yes frutax
[01:41] <JohnFlux> |Iwonder|: don't put funny chars in your nick
[01:41] <NightBird> frutax: yes, that's one of the commands you need to do...
[01:41] <wolferine> u mean it will listen on ports (required by the app)
[01:41] <JohnFlux> |Iwonder|: it's hard to tab complete
[01:41] <NightBird> !adeptcrashed
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrashed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <Jisao> suit yourself, eilker. I just thought he could come with answers with your questions.
[01:41] <wolferine> while(true) { listen(80); }
[01:42] <|Iwonder|> frutax:  that happens to me a lot if adept crashes/hangs
[01:42] <NightBird> wolferine: most servers are a bit more complex than that :P
[01:42] <wolferine> obviously :)
[01:42] <eilker> Jisao> thank you so much
[01:42] <frutax> thanks guys i think im well on the way to fixing this now, it was a problem with the java installation
[01:42] <JohnFlux> wolferine: a server will open a port, yes
[01:42] <JohnFlux> wolferine: and listen on it
[01:42] <NightBird> ?adept crash
[01:43] <|Iwonder|> wolferine:  what are you trying to do?
[01:43] <NightBird> hm...
[01:43] <Compleja> !es
[01:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:43] <NightBird> frutax: these are the commands: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:43] <NightBird> !adept crash
[01:43] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:43] <NightBird> !adeptfix
[01:43] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:43] <wolferine> one more thing
[01:43] <NightBird> there it is
[01:43] <wolferine> is I do address to http://localhost/~username
[01:44] <wolferine> then what do I have to create in the users dir?
[01:44] <wolferine> a /public_html or a /.www ?
[01:44] <NightBird> probably /public_html
[01:44] <wolferine> k
[01:44] <NightBird> if apache was configured to do it that way that is
[01:44] <wolferine> oh, so its just in the .conf
[01:44] <wolferine> k, thanks
[01:45] <JohnFlux> wolferine: yeah it's in userdir.conf
[01:46] <wolferine> ok, thanks
[01:46] <dsmith_> Windows named most secure OS by Symantec
[01:46] <dsmith_> Hmmmmmmm
[01:46] <dsmith_> yea right...
[01:47] <|Iwonder|> roflmao
[01:49] <wolferine> ok, next question
[01:50] <wolferine> to get php and mysql to work together, is there an easy test?
[01:50] <wolferine> or app to look at the mysql db?
[01:54] <mervteck> can someone help me setting my frequency on my desktop its an AMD X2 4600 and its only being reported as 1000mhz, when its a 2.4
[01:57] <Alonea> someone mentioned that you can get a free version of cedega somewhere?
[01:58] <Jucato> !cedega
[01:58] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:58] <Jucato> cedega cvs
[01:59] <Alonea> Jucato: umm, where is a page that says what the cvs link is?
[02:00] <Jucato> Alonea: check that help page above. I'm not familiar with it
[02:00] <Alonea> Jucato: oh, there it is. Too bad they dont use subversion...i prefer it over CVS.
[02:08] <premjith> haaaaaaaai
[02:20] <meme-1> Hello folks, I am trying to install kvirc through Synaptic and I am getting the following error: "
[02:20] <meme-1> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kvirc/kvirc-data_3.2.4-3ubuntu1_all.deb
[02:20] <meme-1>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:21] <meme-1> Suggestions?
[02:22] <Tm_T> localhost?
[02:23] <meme-1> "Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). "
[02:23] <meme-1> not sure about that.
[02:24] <Tm_T> yes, I wonder why it tries connect to localhost
[02:24] <Tm_T> too tired to think, good night kids and remember to be nice! ->
[02:25] <meme-1> I see no settings in Synaptic that would allow that.  Good night.
[02:28] <meme-1> Strange! I am trying to "reload package information" in Synaptic and every repository is erroring out with: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[02:28] <meme-1> any thoughts?
[02:28] <meme-1> Can I buy a clue?
[02:28] <meme-1> Synaptic worked until about yesterday.
[02:28] <meme-1> No changes that I am aware of.
[02:29] <jhutchins> meme-1: Either you are having some serious DNS problems or your source configuration is messed up.
[02:29] <jhutchins> meme-1: Can you ping/browse that url?"
[02:30] <meme-1> jhutchins: Okay... something might be wrong.... FYI - you are the ONLY person communicating in this channel now. Is this correct?
[02:31] <meme-1> All I see are people leaving and reconnecting now.
[02:31] <meme-1> No other chats
[02:31] <jhutchins> Tm_T: @ 1:24 GMT but yeah.
[02:31] <jhutchins> meme-1: If you're seeing join/part messages, you know you're at least connected to the server.
[02:31] <Alonea> i am here
[02:31] <meme-1> jhutchins: okay... thought my problem was something more... I'll try pinging said site.
[02:32] <meme-1> Got quiet for a while.... :-)
[02:32] <Alonea> that it did
[02:32] <Alonea> I am trying to install cedega
[02:33] <meme-1> no trouble pinging us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <jhutchins> !easysources
[02:33] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:33] <jhutchins> meme-1: try sudo apt-get update in a console.
[02:34] <jhutchins> meme-1: You _should_ get the same error.
[02:34] <meme-1> jhutchins: same error
[02:35] <meme-1> errors
[02:35] <meme-1> the oddest part is: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:35] <jhutchins> Ok, I think you need to regenerate your source lists.  Have a look at the URL above.
[02:36] <meme-1> thx... will try that.
[02:37] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine may help as well.
[02:37] <Alonea> oh, and anyone know how I can get my fglrx to reinstall? as far as I know I have uninstalled everything, but I can't get it to install again...
[02:37] <hoth> how do I add a vpn from ubuntu to a windows firewall
[02:37] <jhutchins> meme-1: Getting it working from the command lie basically means (at least) one less thing to go wrong.
[02:38] <jhutchins> hoth: You may find kvpnrc useful.
[02:38] <Alonea> bash ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy ---this is where my install fails. I will get an output as soon as the pastebin site I use starts working again..bah
[02:38] <hoth> thanks where do I find it?
[02:38] <jhutchins> hoth: You may also be thinking of something you might do with rdesktop or tightvnc.
[02:39] <jhutchins> hoth: Should be in the apt repositories.
[02:39] <jhutchins> (all of the above)
[02:39] <hoth> I can run VNC after but need to authicate to the firewall first
[02:39] <jhutchins> hoth: Probably the first one then.
[02:40] <meme-1> Can someone please tell me where sources.list is located?
[02:40] <stdin> meme-1: /etc/apt/
[02:40] <meme-1> thank you
[02:40] <jhutchins> hoth: There's a way to set it up from the console using diald so it automatically connects, but I haven't botherd with that myself.
[02:40] <hoth> shows 0 packages listed for that name
[02:40] <jhutchins> meme-1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine may help as well.
[02:40] <jhutchins> hoth: Hmmm...
[02:41] <jhutchins> hoth: Try kvpnc
[02:41] <Alonea> ok, can someone else try http://pastebin.ca and see if it loads?
[02:41] <Alonea> or give me another pastebin that works
[02:42] <jhutchins> Alonea: pastebin.ca's notorious. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:42] <Alonea> hmm, I always preferred the ca over others...first time it hasnt worked for me.
[02:42] <jhutchins> Alonea: Dead from here as well.
[02:42] <hoth> Jhutchins  Thanks!!! found it
[02:43] <meme-1> Darn permissions! How do I save to the apt folder when I can't change the permissions on that folder.
[02:43] <stdin> you can always use http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/ :)
[02:43] <jhutchins> hoth: Sorry, dyslexics untie!
[02:43] <jhutchins> meme-1: Use sudo to do the edit/save.
[02:43] <meme-1> ah... thanks
[02:43] <jhutchins> or kdesu
[02:44] <stdin> meme-1: if you want to edit the sources.list file, press Alt-F2 and type in: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:44] <jhutchins> meme-1: You've really caught on to this whole unix thing pretty quick!
[02:44] <hoth> Jhutchins:  you be the mna
[02:44] <jhutchins> hoth: Nah, just a page or two ahead.
[02:45] <Alonea> umm, it keeps saying I am spamming...
[02:45] <meme-1> jhutchins: thx... but not quick enough... I did used to be a 11/780 operator back in the old, old days.
[02:46] <Alonea> ok, there it goes
[02:46] <Alonea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[02:46] <jhutchins> meme-1: Started out on a System 370 myself.
[02:47] <Alonea> thing is, it installed fine before, but after I messed up and adept got rid of it, I have not been able to reinstall it
[02:47] <jhutchins> Alonea: I presume if you've gotten that far you already know about the following:
[02:47] <jhutchins> !ati
[02:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:47] <hoth> jhutchins: Thanks, but when I put in a dns name I do not see a connect button do I need an IP address or are you unfamiliar and I should go on?
[02:48] <jhutchins> 'fraid I can't.
[02:48] <Alonea> jhutchins: i know, its the install I have been using
[02:48] <jhutchins> Hang on a sec...
[02:48] <Alonea> jhutchins: it was perfectly fine until adept accidentally uninstalled it all...stupid thing.
[02:48] <jhutchins> Kernel probably got updated.
[02:48] <Alonea> jhutchins: ?
[02:49] <Alonea> it got uninstalled when I got rid of the older gcc thing
[02:49] <jhutchins> hoth: My version requires that I create a profile for each site.
[02:49] <jhutchins> Alonea: Oh.  Hm, that may be part of the problem.
[02:49] <meme-1> Something is seriously wrong. Same errors.... but since my list is bigger now... I just get more errors now.
[02:49] <jhutchins> Alonea: There are a number of components required to build stuff.  Perhaps build-essentials might help?
[02:49] <Alonea> jhutchins: its SUPPOSED to use 4, but it used 3 the first time around and i didn't know it
[02:49] <hoth>  jhutchins: thanks I'll try that
[02:50] <jhutchins> meme-1: apt-get has the same problem?
[02:50] <jhutchins> meme-1: It's almost like it wants to connect to the local CD.
[02:50] <Alonea> jhutchins: I got them all, there is a command at the beginning to install anything you are missing. I redid it. Nothing works. Thing is. I got this on my 64 bit version too, except all the folders were 64 instead of i386 thing
[02:50] <jhutchins> meme-1: I don't know enough about apt to help at this point.
[02:50] <stdin> meme-1: what's the problem?
[02:51] <jhutchins> Ok, you both need someone deeper 'n me, I'm out.
[02:51] <Alonea> so I went back to 32 bit system where I know it will install correctly
[02:51] <Alonea> and now its all messed up and don't know how to fix it...
[02:51] <meme-1> jhutchins: you know more than you think! ha ha "t's almost like it wants to connect to the local CD."  I pulled the DVD (ubuntu install DVD) last night! ha ha
[02:51] <meme-1> stdin: I believe jhutchins solved the problem!
[02:52] <meme-1> I just unchecked the "download from CDROM option" in synaptic!
[02:54] <romeo_> Where can i change the colors of things listed? For exampel.. If i have several things listed.. I get 2 colors.. Grey background with white text.. and then white background with white text.. then grey and so on.. Any idea how to fix that?
[02:55] <meme-1> Nope.. that did not work. uncheck, then rechecked and placed the DVD back in... still get same error.
[02:55] <meme-1> stdin:  I am trying to "reload package information" in Synaptic and every repository is erroring out with: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[02:55] <stdin> meme-1: DNS issue
[02:55] <meme-1> stdin: everything else works (such as IRC)
[02:56] <meme-1> Also... web, FTP, and News
[02:57] <Jucato> romeo_: System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors, then from the dropdown list, select Alternate background in lists
[02:57] <stdin> meme-1: well apt seems to think that us.archive.ubuntu.com is your local host
[02:57] <meme-1> I can also ping those failing addresses.
[02:57] <romeo_> Jucato: Thanks a million
[02:58] <Jucato> romeo_: you're welcome a million times over as well :)
[02:58] <stdin> meme-1: does "sudo apt-get update" show the same errors?
[02:58] <meme-1> What is the equivalent to Window's "etc\hosts" on Linux?
[02:58] <romeo_> Jucato: Haha =)
[02:58] <Jucato>  /etc/hosts
[02:58] <stdin> meme-1: /etc/hosts where else :P
[02:59] <Jucato> meme-1: you can browse the web?
[02:59] <meme-1> stdin: let me try one moment.   ha ha same place... cool something I don't need to re-learn.
[02:59] <Jucato> hm.. why is apt looking at localhost in the first place? O.o
[02:59] <romeo_> Any other filebrowser then konqueror?
[02:59] <meme-1> Jucato: yes... everything else seems to work perfectly. Synaptic is the only app not behaving.
[03:00] <hoth> Talk about people that rush right in I missed the profile setting completly. Thanks for all the help
[03:00] <meme-1> stdin: sudo apt-get update gave same errors
[03:01] <stdin> humm
[03:01] <Alonea> does anything think the #ati people could help me with this?
[03:01] <stdin> meme-1: do you use a router, or direct connection?
[03:02] <meme-1> router... but that would affect things globally.
[03:03] <meme-1> hosts files look fine too.
[03:03] <meme-1> Is there any configuration that perhaps I am overlooking in Synaptic?
[03:04] <meme-1> Like I said earlier.... it worked find until yesterday.
[03:04] <meme-1> Darnit! All I wanted to do was install a better IRC app.
[03:04] <stdin> meme-1: you say you can ping us.archive.ubuntu.com? is it pinging <IP_ADDRESS> (or <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>) or is it pinging <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:05] <meme-1> stdin: just to be sure... one moment
[03:05] <DarkED> i want to get Beryl running on Kubuntu 6.10, anyone know a good guide or a good place to start?
[03:05] <stdin> !beryl
[03:05] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:05] <meme-1> It resolves as:  (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[03:05] <meme-1> so that is working!
[03:06] <meme-1> It seems specifically relating to Synaptic!
[03:06] <romeo_> Alonea: What are you trying todo, install your ati graphic card?
[03:06] <DarkED> stdin: i know what beryl is - i need a guide to get it running on KDE
[03:06] <meme-1> Cwazy Wabbit!
[03:06] <DarkED> stdin: all the guides i have seen are for Gnome
[03:06] <Alonea> romeo_: well, it WAS installed perfectly...until adept removed the fglrx stuff and killed it.
[03:06] <stdin> DarkED: there really isn't a difference
[03:07] <DarkED> stdin: ok then, thanks
[03:07] <Jucato> DarkED: those links and that channel has pages/links that also have KDE-specific guides
[03:07] <stdin> meme-1: but apt-get is failing too, which means that it's not just synaptic
[03:07] <romeo_> Alonea: Ugh.. Why did it remove fglrx? Have you tried Envy? Worked flawlesly for me. Just used it, and it automatically downloaded everything needed and installed it automatically! Extremly recommended
[03:07] <underdog5004> anyone had trouble d'ling from the us repositories?
[03:07] <stdin> meme-1: you have adept don#t you?
[03:08] <underdog5004> I had to change all us references to ca in my sources.list
[03:08] <meme-1> stdin: forgot about apt-get
[03:08] <meme-1> stdin: adept?  If I don't know what that is... probably not. :-)
[03:08] <stdin> meme-1: it's installed by default in kubuntu
[03:09] <romeo_> How can i clear my cache? I got loads of files i downloaded (rar files for exampel etc).. andis it safe?
[03:09] <Alonea> romeo_: never heard of it. what is it? and I have no idea why it removed it. It did without telling me. I was tring to figure out why rockbox wasn't seeing the gcc, so I removed the older version, and with it, it removed flgrx (which is supposed to use 4 anyways...)
[03:09] <meme-1> stdin: where is it located?
[03:09] <stdin> meme-1: KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager
[03:09] <romeo_> !envy | Alonea
[03:09] <ubotu> Alonea: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[03:10] <romeo_> Alonea: Its some kind of software.. install it, then run it.. and it will do EVERYTHING. from installing/updating. I did it the first thing i did when i installed kubuntu. Worked like a charm.. I remember first time i tried manually.  I'll try to find it manually.
[03:12] <Alonea> romeo_: how do you run a .deb file? never really seen them before...
[03:12] <stdin> meme-1: the command is adept_manager (in /usr/bin/)
[03:12] <stdin> !deb | Alonea
[03:12] <ubotu> Alonea: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[03:13] <romeo_> Alonea: If you do it in the termnial. its dpkg -i debfile..
[03:13] <stdin> *sudo ^
[03:13] <romeo_> Sudo! Yeah
[03:14] <meme-1> stdin: I am afraid all that begins with ad* is addr2line
[03:14] <DaSkreech> tackat: Hello
[03:14] <stdin> meme-1: you installed kubuntu right?
[03:15] <romeo_> Can someone explain one thing for me? How come i can't turn off my pc or restart it when using linux? I have to click the power button for it to turn off.. Secondly i am wondering.. when Kubuntu is about to run it gives me a quick (less then 1 second) view of like PCI missing (4 rows if that).. Any idea what that might be?
[03:15] <meme-1> stdin: long explaination.. begin life as ubuntu... then became kubuntu after a number of educational programs were installed. Actually, I am running with Gnome now... perhaps that explains everything.
[03:15] <meme-1> stdin: sorry.
[03:16] <romeo_> Alonea: How's it going?
[03:16] <stdin> meme-1: it explains why you don't have adept, but not why resolving isn't working
[03:16] <meme-1> stdin: should have mentioned this earlier... esp. when you gave me a kde menu.
[03:16] <Alonea> romeo_: envy is doing its thing. if this works, I may kiss you.
[03:17] <stdin> meme-1: have you  tried restarting networking? bit of a long shot tho
[03:17] <romeo_> Alonea: Trust me, I was about to kiss the person that told me abou it. So easy and fast. and you just have to click once or twice.
[03:17] <meme-1> stdin: in the Windows world... one solution is rebooting.  how about that? :-)
[03:17] <stdin> meme-1: no point, restarting networking may do it
[03:18] <Alonea> romeo_: yeah.  Kubuntu is really weird
[03:18] <meme-1> stdin: I'll try that
[03:18] <stdin> meme-1: if that doesn't work, then maybe reboot :P
[03:19] <|DKP|Shiyan> evening
[03:19] <meme-1> bye for now... be back as meme-2 I guess. :-)
[03:19] <Alonea> romeo_: its because of the flgrx. its a bug...make a button with the command 'sudo init 0' and that will shut it down
[03:20] <|DKP|Shiyan> is it not possible to run dual monitors in kubuntu?
[03:20] <meme-1> stdin: hmmm.... not as dramatic as I predicted... meaning I don't think that did anything! I see a lot of errors, "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[03:20] <stdin> meme-1: are you on a wireless network?
[03:20] <Alonea> romeo_: or just do it in the terminal of course. also, how do I know if it worked? do I do fglrxinfo like before after restarting?
[03:20] <stdin> !dualhead | |DKP|Shiyan
[03:20] <ubotu> |DKP|Shiyan: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:21] <meme-1> stdin: no... I'm wired.
[03:21] <|DKP|Shiyan> thanks
[03:21] <romeo_> Alonea: Yeah, thats what i did.. Other than that I have no idea.. The sudo init 0.. Thats for making it restart/power off?
[03:21] <stdin> meme-1: do you even have a wireless interface?
[03:21] <Alonea> romeo_: it will shutdown..forgot number for restart...
[03:21] <meme-1> stdin: no... pretty standard Intel computer. Nothing odd in this config.
[03:21] <stdin> Alonea, romeo_: 6 will restart
[03:22] <Alonea> there we go
[03:22] <romeo_> stdin: Ah thanks =)
[03:22] <Alonea> ok, will brb
[03:22] <romeo_> However, Alonea,I am not even 1 week old linux user. So i have no idea whatsoever how to make a button to shutdown
[03:22] <stdin> meme-1: seems that you have wlan defined too :P, oh well, check it apt-get is working now
[03:22] <Alonea> ok, right click on your K menu and click on edit item
[03:23] <Alonea> Goto File, new and then name it something like shutdown
[03:24] <romeo_> Alonea: Ok and now?
[03:24] <meme-1> stdin: I just gave you that very last part... didn't notice the wlan...
[03:24] <meme-1> stdin:
[03:24] <meme-1> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[03:24] <meme-1> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:24] <meme-1> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:24] <meme-1> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[03:24] <meme-1> Failed to bring up eth1.
[03:24] <meme-1> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth2.pid with pid 134993416
[03:24] <Alonea> Under Command but in what I told you. You can change the icon too, to something like the power symbol under actions I think
[03:24] <Alonea> *put
[03:24] <Tm_T> !pastebin | meme-1
[03:24] <ubotu> meme-1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:24] <romeo_> Alonea: Thanks alot
[03:24] <meme-1> Tm_T: thx
[03:24] <Omnifrog> :)
[03:25] <stdin> meme-1: how many network interfaces do you have?
[03:25] <Alonea> romeo_: no problem. it might bring up the terminal for the password, but at least it works..I used to get it to where I didn't have to but I forgot how I did it
[03:25] <meme-1> stdin: just one actually.
[03:26] <stdin> meme-1: pastebin the output of netstat (in konsole)
[03:26] <meme-1> stdin: This is basically an Intel box with no additional peripherals.
[03:26] <PStryder> Ok, trying to install java jre, and the command line window displays a EULA for sun java, and then all I can do is escape to close it, and the damned thing comes up again.  What do I do on this command line splash screen?
[03:27] <stdin> PStryder: in adept ?
[03:27] <PStryder> using apt-get to correct broken dependencies.
[03:27] <babag> when i su in konsole it asks for password. install never asked me to set one up.
[03:27] <DarkED> i'm having a problem with KDE ... it just locks up. i can still move the mouse but i cant click on anything, and the little bouncing icon stops moving and stays at the same place on the desktop even after i move my mouse
[03:27] <mal> what's the best way to diagnose a slow internet connection?
[03:28] <DarkED> it's like it is trying to process something in the background
[03:28] <stdin> PStryder: press enter to read the licence, then use tab and enter to accept it
[03:28] <Jucato> PStryder: where is this happening? wi/ adept? on what Kubuntu version?
[03:28] <babag> 'authentication failure' if i put in my user password or leave it blank.
[03:28] <DarkED> i tried Alt+F1'ing into a shell but i cant do that either
[03:28] <PStryder> Thanks stdin
[03:28] <DarkED> it's like the entire system is locked except for my mouse
[03:28] <Alonea> ok, back, now how do I exactly find out if I have 3d accel now romeo_ ?
[03:28] <Jucato> DarkED: Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[03:29] <DarkED> Jucato: ill try it
[03:29] <PStryder> I hate command line displayed guis.
[03:29] <Jucato> DarkED: when you're on X, Ctrl+Alt+F1 gets you to the shell (same as Alt+F1 if you're already on a shell)
[03:29] <PStryder> In the meantime, I'm looking for a good program to download all the images from a web site.
[03:29] <PStryder> harvestman won't accept my command line inputs
[03:29] <PStryder> any suggestions?
[03:30] <stdin> babag: use sudo, sudo -u user -i (to login as them) or just "sudo su user", it asks for a password, use YOUR password
[03:30] <babag> how do i set up a password for su?
[03:30] <babag> doh!
[03:30] <Jucato> PStryder: try kget, enable Konqueror integration, then Konqueror's Tools menu -> Download Manager -> Show all link?
[03:31] <Alonea> nope. romeo_ , I dont have 3d acceleration. gl screensavers skip.
[03:31] <Jucato> !sudo | babag
[03:31] <ubotu> babag: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:31] <DarkED> ok, that didnt work
[03:31] <DarkED> it seems my keyboard also goes dead when it happens
[03:31] <DarkED> the only thing that works is my mouse and i cant do anything with it, so ...
[03:31] <PStryder> Can I just say how much I freaking LOVE Kunbuntu!
[03:32] <romeo_> Alonea: Weird..
[03:32] <Jucato> btw PStryder, don't install Java using Adept unless you are on Kubuntu 7.10 (Feisty, which is still in beta)
[03:32] <romeo_> Alonea: fglrxinfo gives you?
[03:33] <DaSkreech> PStryder: try wget
[03:33] <Alonea> romeo_: command not found
[03:33] <babag> what this is really about is trying to install firefox
[03:33] <Alonea> babag: install firefox through repo.
[03:33] <meme-1> stdin: sorry for taking so long... results of netstat : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11597/
[03:34] <babag> tried add/remove programs but it's grayed out
[03:34] <PStryder> Jucato...I already did...that's why I had to use apt-get on the command line.
[03:34] <PStryder> It broke Adept.
[03:34] <romeo_> Alonea: Meaning you dont have fglrx.. That is indeed weird. As Envy does i think per autmatic install it
[03:34] <stdin> meme-1: should have asked before, can you post ifconfig too ?
[03:34] <Jucato> PStryder: Adept is broken as it is (at least until Feisty)
[03:35] <Alonea> romeo_: i think there were errors..lemme paste whole thing on pastebin
[03:35] <Alonea> !pastebin
[03:35] <DaSkreech> babag: press Alt+Space
[03:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:35] <DaSkreech> babag: type adept
[03:35] <DaSkreech> babag: press enter
[03:36] <yanx007> I have a little question here...
[03:36] <underdog5004> yanx007, what's up?
[03:37] <yanx007> hi underdog!
[03:37] <PStryder> does gwget work in KDE?
[03:37] <underdog5004> hi...
[03:37] <PStryder> jucato - so far I like Adept, just the one java install issue.
[03:37] <yanx007> I have a VERY weird question here...
[03:37] <babag> says 'mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb' is installed
[03:37] <underdog5004> ok
[03:37] <yanx007> How do your read/write a floppy on /etc/fstab?
[03:37] <underdog5004> PStryder, have you tried synaptic yet?
[03:37] <meme-1> stdin: appended to original paste. Thanks for the assistance
[03:37] <underdog5004> yanx007, uh...
[03:37] <Alonea> damn! it wont let me scroll up to the beginning. just a little bit. How do I get it all?
[03:37] <babag> if i type 'mozilla-firefox' in konsole it's unknown
[03:37] <yanx007> I mean mount it.
[03:37] <underdog5004> yanx007, lemme google for that one
[03:37] <Jucato> PStryder: java, flash, and vmware-player are affected. you'll love the new adept on feisty :)
[03:38] <PStryder> nope...how is synaptic?  I just need the jpegs off this site.
[03:38] <romeo_> Alonea: Try Ctrl+A?
[03:38] <yanx007> ok.
[03:38] <underdog5004> yanx007, oh, sudo mount /dev/fd0
[03:38] <underdog5004> I think
[03:38] <PStryder> Any idea on how the upgrade from edgy to fiesty is?
[03:38] <yanx007> Thanks it does the trick but not on read/write. Thanks anyway!
[03:38] <underdog5004> yanx007, hmmm, sudo mount -rw /dev/fd0
[03:38] <underdog5004> ?
[03:38] <Jucato> PStryder: don't worry. it will be practically point and click when the time comes
[03:39] <stdin> meme-1: ok, that looks fine there
[03:39] <PStryder> Sweet...how's the beta?  Worth using, or is it still nightmarish?
[03:39] <PStryder> I'm a tech, but just making the move for good off Windows and I have only one PC.
[03:39] <underdog5004> yanx007, did that work?
[03:39] <Alonea> romeo_: nope..
[03:39] <babag> my adept view also seems to only show installed soft, even though view settings set to show both installed and not
[03:39] <meme-1> stdin: exactly... pretty straightforward... but where's the bug? Perhaps I should try rebooting.
[03:39] <Jucato> PStryder: ok so far. daily updates, some things still not working properly
[03:40] <stdin> meme-1: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf and post that to pastebin, it may be something wrong in there
[03:40] <romeo_> Alonea: Then i dont know.. You got errors ?
[03:40] <yanx007> to underdog, it does the trick but not the read/write. But THanks!
[03:40] <underdog5004> damn, sorry
[03:40] <Alonea> romeo_: i though I saw some above, but I cant see them now...
[03:40] <yanx007> That'S ok. FLoppies are obsolete anyway.
[03:41] <romeo_> cant you shift + uparrow ?
[03:41] <PStryder> Damn...kget almost immediately gets interrupted.
[03:42] <meme-1> stdin: whoa! I know enough about networking to know that "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" is probably not correct!
[03:42] <yanx007> Thanks underdog! How long have u been using Kubuntu?
[03:42] <meme-1> but... the addresses are still resolving though
[03:42] <stdin> meme-1: that's probably the IP of your router
[03:42] <meme-1> stdin: yes...
[03:42] <stdin> meme-1: is there anything else in there?
[03:42] <bxnp> it could be the local dns server from your router
[03:43] <meme-1> stdin: I think I jumped to conclusions... too quickly.
[03:43] <meme-1> stdin: yes: just search and the name of my provider.
[03:43] <bxnp> meme-1: wifi?
[03:43] <meme-1> bxnp: no... I'm wired in.
[03:44] <stdin> meme-1: that's probably ok then, maybe restart your router?
[03:44] <Alonea> romeo_: yeah, it looks like its having the same problem I am. when it tries to install the ati driver,it fails, thus the .debs are not made.
[03:44] <stdin> meme-1: it seems to be something with it's DNS
[03:45] <romeo_> Alonea: Are you on 32bit or 64bit?
[03:45] <meme-1> stdin: But if DNS was acting up, I should be able to browse... you know type google.com, etc. I also have 7 other computers connected and all are working fine.
[03:45] <babag> how do i tell from the command line if firefox is installed
[03:45] <Alonea> romeo_: 32 bit, because 64 doesn't work. like I said, this was installed perfectly fine until adept messed it up
[03:46] <PStryder> GRRRR
[03:46] <stdin> babag: type "which firefox"
[03:46] <babag> thx
[03:46] <stdin> babag: if you see output, then it's installed
[03:46] <Lam_> how do you save a session in firefox?
[03:46] <babag> no output
[03:46] <meme-1> stdin: (et al) if there are no other ideas at this time, I'll try a last-resort reboot.
[03:46] <stdin> meme-1: do you have "host" or "nslookup" installed?
[03:47] <babag> in add/remove programs it shows but is grayed
[03:47] <babag> can't select it
[03:47] <meme-1> stdin: how can I tell?
[03:47] <stdin> babag: make sure your sources aren't all disabled
[03:47] <DaSkreech> PStryder: Keep a Live CD around!
[03:47] <mal>  what's the best way to diagnose a slow internet connection?
[03:48] <romeo_> Alonea: Then sorry i have no idea.. Try asking in #ubuntu channel?
[03:48] <stdin> meme-1: type "which host" and "which nslookup"
[03:48] <Alonea> they haven't responded and neither have the people in #ati or ##linux
[03:48] <PStryder> Good idea Skreech
[03:49] <Alonea> romeo_: ok, can you find my post on here that had all the info and pastebin in it?
[03:49] <meme-1> stdin: Okay that is a new command, "which" - it returned, /usr/bin/host and /usr/bin/nslookup
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Alonea: what are you trying to do?
[03:49] <babag> sources are enabled but firefox still grayed
[03:49] <DaSkreech> babag: open adept
[03:50] <romeo_> Alonea: You did not post any pastebin..
[03:50] <Alonea> DaSkreech: adept messed up my fglrx...it removed parts of it. Now I cant even install it anymore.
[03:50] <babag> adept is now open
[03:50] <DaSkreech> babag: search for firefox
[03:50] <Alonea> romeo_: oh, its way up there, a longish post...
[03:50] <stdin> meme-1: good, means you have them, you can use them to query your DNS server (your router), what does "host us.archive.ubuntu.com" show?
[03:51] <PStryder> I'm gonna lose it.
[03:51] <PStryder> Time for bed.
[03:51] <babag> says 'mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb' is installed
[03:51] <PStryder> All I want to do is download a bunch of Soyarama pics, without clicking 1500 links and save the files displayed.
[03:52] <meme-1> stdin: I did that a while ago actually... everything is good! Resolves find to the proper addresses.
[03:52] <PStryder> and I can't find a piece of software that will do it.
[03:52] <meme-1> stdin: e.g. us.archive.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:52] <DaSkreech> PStryder: wget
[03:52] <DaSkreech> or maybe DTA for Firefox
[03:52] <PStryder> DTA?
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Kget?
[03:52] <romeo_> Alonea: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Down them all
[03:52] <PStryder> wget, kget, harvestman all throw errors.
[03:52] <DaSkreech> it's an extension you tell it what you want to follow from a page and it grabs it
[03:53] <DaSkreech>  I got the history of Chinese music using it :)
[03:53] <DaSkreech> PStryder: are they all on one page?
[03:53] <stdin> meme-1: do you have an /etc/apt/apt.conf or a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ ?
[03:53] <Alonea> DaSkreech: yeah, I get that now when I try to install my ati driver
[03:54] <PStryder> Nah, they have links to a page displaying each pic, then click the pic, and the actuall jpg is opened.
[03:55] <PStryder> then right click, save, etc
[03:55] <meme-1> stdin:  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[03:55] <nonuda_> aha..stdin is here..
[03:55] <DaSkreech> PStryder: does it use a consistent URL?
[03:55] <PStryder> seems to.
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Or is the URL autogend
[03:55] <stdin> meme-1: does "grep -i proxy /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*" show anything ?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> PStryder: I think wget shoudl be able to get that for you
[03:55] <stdin> hey nonuda_ :)
[03:56] <meme-1> stdin: Nyet
[03:56] <PStryder> it tries, and errors.  They may have code to cause me grief
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Alonea: do you have b-e installed?/
[03:56] <PStryder> it is a php site
[03:56] <Alonea> DaSkreech: whats that?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Ah
[03:56] <DaSkreech> !b-e | Alonea
[03:56] <ubotu> Alonea: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:56] <stdin> meme-1: man that's strange
[03:57] <DaSkreech> PStryder: curl perhaps?
[03:57] <Alonea> DaSkreech: if you are asking if I have all the stuff needed to install it, then yes, I do.
[03:57] <PStryder> never heard of curl
[03:57] <meme-1> stdin: don't you just hate it when you just keep hitting brick walls?
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Apparently you do not. That's why it is complaining
[03:57] <stdin> meme-1: yeah :P, go ahead and see if a reboot fixes it for you, if not you can try changing your sources to another host, ca.archive.ubuntu.com for example
[03:58] <DaSkreech> It wants the c++ libs
[03:58] <DaSkreech> PStryder: Well go to sleep and try it tomorrow
[03:58] <Alonea> DaSkreech: I will tell you once. I do. It has done this before on another system and I couldn't fix it then. I can even find the files its looking for.
[03:58] <PStryder> I think I have too...work beacons
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Where it is looking for them?
[03:59] <meme-1> stdin: giving up huh? No serious I understand the frustration. I am not used to being on the side that needs help... interesting experience. At least I'm not cursing you or otherwise... :-)
[04:00] <stdin> meme-1: changing the sources is a "hackish" fox that _may_ work, but I just can't find the problem
[04:00] <meme-1> Actually, let me try that first... then I'll reboot.
[04:02] <Alonea> DaSkreech: /usr/i486-linux-gnu/lib/  . They are actually in /usr/lib . Make sym links doesn't fix it either...like I said, I had this installed perfectly fine before until I uninstalled an older gcc to try to fix another problem I have. It uninstalled my flgrx stuff when I did that...
[04:02] <DarkED> so nobody has ever had KDE lock up on them like i have?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Ohhhh. Hmm
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Alonea:have you checked in #ubuntu-effects ?
[04:02] <nixternal> anyone running VirtualBox?
[04:03] <Alonea> DaSkreech: no, I can try though
[04:03] <DisabledDuck> how do i get the w32 plugins?
[04:04] <Jucato> !w32codecs | DisabledDuck
[04:04] <ubotu> DisabledDuck: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:06] <DaSkreech> babag: getting anywhere?
[04:07] <babag> starting to get the hang of adept
[04:07] <nonuda_> stdin, i think i found a driver for my ati rage, but i'm confused to choose, can u take a look at this http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php and in download area which file should i download..
[04:07] <DaSkreech> babag: ok :)
[04:07] <babag> adept claims firefox is installing
[04:07] <babag> we'll see
[04:08] <babag> hey! whadya know!
[04:09] <babag> ok. now the mouse problem
[04:09] <babag> ;)
[04:10] <daifunai> YO! I'm wondering how to install a theme downloaded from a .hack fansite that claims it's initially for kde
[04:10] <stdin> nonuda_: seems that it was merged in to xorg 7.0, so you should already have it
[04:10] <daifunai> T_T how do i install it?
[04:10] <DaSkreech> babag: PLug it out
[04:10] <DaSkreech>  Problem done :)
[04:10] <stdin> !changethemes | daifunai
[04:10] <ubotu> daifunai: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:11] <nonuda_> oh ok..
[04:12] <daifunai> ...i'm using KUBUNTU, not UBUNTU
[04:12] <daifunai> O.o;
[04:12] <DisabledDuck> !Codec
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <daifunai> the file seems to be a .theme
[04:12] <stdin> daifunai: don't you nee that link at the end of the message ?
[04:12] <DisabledDuck> !Codecs
[04:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:12] <daifunai> i prefer one on one assistance. forums don't help a soul
[04:12] <daifunai> :P
[04:12] <Jucato> daifunai: did you read that whole sentence above?
[04:13] <Jucato> daifunai: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:13] <babag> DaSkreech: thx (everyone else too)
[04:13] <DaSkreech> babag: Kool
[04:14] <DisabledDuck> if i do the fiest upgrade... what are the chances that i mess up my machine and have to re-install?
[04:14] <babag> now to figure out how to get a serial mouse working
[04:14] <stdin> babag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Pour milk on it
[04:14] <daifunai> ok, one other thing
[04:15] <babag> wow! thx.
[04:15] <meme-1> I'm back! :-)
[04:16] <stdin> meme-1: how'd it go?
[04:16] <meme-1> stdin: just finished. It works fine now!
[04:17] <tuxligo> the discrimination of debian for ubunut is veri big!
[04:17] <stdin> god know's why it wasn't working :P
[04:17] <meme-1> stdin: I was just thinking an OS is an OS these days. Different look, same sh*t
[04:18] <meme-1> stdin: same solutions (like reboot) still apply. lol
[04:18] <stdin> meme-1: I hardy ever reboot
[04:18] <stdin> meme-1: tho I probably need to soon
[04:19] <stdin> meme-1: I'm running kernel 2.6.20-9 and have 2.6.20-12 installed
[04:19] <meme-1> stdin: well, that was the same when I was managing Novell servers... start'em up and forget about them.
[04:20] <meme-1> stdin: Seriously, I rarely reboot my XP computer as well. The days of poking fun at Microsoft's unstable OS's is pretty much over.
[04:21] <DisabledDuck> meme-1: i love a good joke...
[04:21] <chance> !Codecs
[04:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:21] <meme-1> stdin: How do I determine which kernal I am running?
[04:21] <stdin> meme-1: uname -r
[04:21] <rooob> meme-1: uname -a
[04:21] <stdin> you only need -r
[04:22] <meme-1> Linux sconnell-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:23] <meme-1> little bit behind
[04:23] <stdin> meme-1: not really, I'm on feisty
[04:23] <meme-1> I see!
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Ok quick question
[04:23] <DaSkreech>  does anyone have an issue with going to websites till after you have pinged them?
[04:24] <stdin> nope
[04:24] <nonuda_> stdin, to run beryl i must enable 3d acceleretion right?
[04:24] <DaSkreech> ok quick question two anyone here from the caribbean?
[04:24] <DisabledDuck> !Multiverse
[04:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:25] <stdin> nonuda_: I think so, but you may be able to use xgl without it
[04:25] <stdin> nonuda_: bast place to ask is #ubuntu-effects
[04:25] <daifunai> sorry, it was WHAT program?
[04:26] <daifunai> and you're absolutely POSITIVE that it cooperates with .theme files
[04:26] <linuxbomb> how can i get a service to start on boot like mysql
[04:26] <stdin> daifunai: a .theme is just an archive, like a .zip
[04:27] <daifunai> it's just showing it as an ordinary file
[04:27] <daifunai> like
[04:27] <daifunai> a binary file
[04:27] <daifunai> or something
[04:27] <stdin> linuxbomb: when you install it, it sets up the scripts
[04:27] <Jucato> aaah! now I remember
[04:27] <nonuda_> aha..ok, btw i have read about xgl but it said that i must have video card drivers with 3D acceleration installed
[04:27] <daifunai>  It is useable, but no instructions or in-depth information exists on this yet. Still tentatively under construction, and designed for KDE initially, so don't blame me if it malfunctions under the original IceWM.
[04:27] <linuxbomb> stdin: I know but mysql doesn't start
[04:28] <daifunai> THAT's what it says
[04:28] <Jucato> daifunai: .theme files were used KDE 2 I believe... I don't think they can be used for KDE 3 anymore
[04:28] <stdin> linuxbomb: do you have /etc/init.d/mysql ?
[04:28] <linuxbomb> yes
[04:28] <meme-1> I have the same prob. (re: 3D acceleration installed) can't enable on my Intel video card.... therefore Beryl refuses to run.
[04:28] <daifunai> CRAP! >_<
[04:28] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[04:29] <Jucato> daifunai: not really sure though. you can ask for confirmation about .theme files in #kde
[04:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:29] <linuxbomb> I cat start it with /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:29] <linuxbomb> can
[04:29] <stdin> linuxbomb: do you have /etc/rc2.d/S19mysql ?
[04:29] <linuxbomb> nope
[04:30] <linuxbomb> I have a k20mysql
[04:31] <stdin> linuxbomb: in /etc/rc2.d ?
[04:31] <linuxbomb> yes
[04:31] <stdin> that means that it stops in runlevel 2
[04:31] <stdin> huh
[04:31] <jhutchins> runlevels are meaningless in kubuntu.
[04:32] <stdin> nope
[04:32] <linuxbomb> So change it to a S
[04:32] <jhutchins> you can build a runlevel based system, but by default they mean nothing.
[04:32] <linuxbomb> update-rc.d mysql defaults didn't do anything
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Anyone have an issue connecting to sites till after you have pinged it?
[04:33] <stdin> linuxbomb: just do "sudo rm /etc/rc?.d/*apache*" then do "sudo update-rc.d mysql-ndb-mgm defaults 19 21" "sudo update-rc.d mysql defaults 19 21" and "sudo update-rc.d mysql-ndb defaults 20"
[04:33] <jhutchins> Too darned bad chkconfig is also meaningless.
[04:33] <stdin> jhutchins: do init 0 and tell me that :P
[04:33] <linuxbomb> what
[04:34] <jhutchins> stdin: Do lilo -R 3;shutdown -r now and tell me it does something.
[04:34] <stdin> linuxbomb: change runlevel to 0, you'll see that kubuntu uses them
[04:34] <utnubuk> is there an easy way to make sure that a set of files are always the latest: I write on both my desktop and laptop and would like an automated way to make sure the latest version is on both machines
[04:34] <stdin> jhutchins: I use grub
[04:35] <jhutchins> stdin: No, seriously, do NOT represent ubuntu as a system that honors rulevls.  It's just plain dishonest to do so.
[04:35] <linuxbomb> stdin I just want mysql to start not remove apache
[04:35] <jhutchins> stdin: Provide an equivalent command for grub then.
[04:35] <stdin> linuxbomb: yeah, my bad :S,  just run those commands (replace apache with mysql), it will reset the links to the default
[04:37] <stdin> jhutchins: so if you put a link to an init script in rc2.d and have the script say "shutdown -r now" your system won't reboot?
[04:38] <jhutchins> stdin: It is an elegant and usefull system that ubuntu/debian has elected to give only superficial and worthless support to.  When they come up with something with equivalent functionality, google will give you the number to call me at.
[04:39] <jhutchins> Debian/Ubunto go different ways.
[04:39] <jhutchins> We wait to see if they can come up with anything as useful.
[04:40] <stdin> upstart
[04:40] <jhutchins> Irrelevant.
[04:40] <jhutchins> Good, but irrelevant.
[04:40] <pollyo> Anyone here using gaim?
[04:42] <jhutchins> Being a really old-time SysV user, I find runlevelss highly compelling.  I undrestand that there are people who never disovered how useful they are, and that they may be somewhat archaic, but I nevertheless find them usefull on an almost daily basis.
[04:42] <jhutchins> pollyo: kopete.
[04:43] <K`zan> Where does one find the initrd.img for a kernel one just built, apparently ubuntu uses that?!?
[04:43] <mshade> anyone here using kontact / kmail?
[04:43] <jhutchins> K`zan: /boot?
[04:43] <jhutchins> mshade: Yes.
[04:45] <mshade> jhutchins: I'd like to have it display html message as html when applicable.  i've got what seem to be the relevant settings enabled, yet it still defaults to showign it as plain text and i must select the html body from below, and then click the red link in the box to show it as html
[04:45] <K`zan> jhutchins: doesn't look like the kernel compile puts either bzImage or the initrd.img anyway, I had to copy bzImage to boot, but no idea where the initrd.img would be found in the source tree?!?
[04:45] <Jucato> mshade: Folder menu -> Prefer HTML to Plain text?
[04:45] <jhutchins> mshade: k, that's pretty simple, let me go walk throug it.
[04:46] <mshade> Jucato: that's enabled
[04:46] <hackdaddy_> using apache2, i'm writing some perl cgi scripts but i'm unable to display images
[04:46] <Jucato> hm...
[04:46] <hackdaddy_> i want to to display images from a directory under my home directory somewhere
[04:47] <mshade> Jucato: Ok, it seems to be workign now.. had to restart kontact
[04:47] <jhutchins> mshade: Ok, I find on my setup it's Settings, Configure KMail, Security, Prefer HTML.
[04:47] <mshade> jhutchins: i had that enabled too, but I had to restart kontact before it seemed to take effect :) thank you for looking into that
[04:48] <intelikey> html in emails... yuch.
[04:48] <mshade> hackdaddy_: you could use a symlink...
[04:48] <mshade> intelikey: i understand the 'yuch' i prefer plain text myself :) that's how I write 'em.
[04:49] <mshade> intelikey: but others correspond to me frequently with html formatting, and odd characters often show up as squares or question marks -- so I enable html
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Man #ubuntu is bustly
[04:49] <hackdaddy_> thanks mshade
[04:49] <jhutchins> intelikey: Yeah, I've basically beaten the local LUG into a pulp over it, but that's what it took.
[04:49] <intelikey> DaSkreech yes
[04:49] <DaSkreech> two people have the same problem as I do there
[04:49] <mshade> hackdaddy_: if that doesn't work, you may need to enable a directive in your httpd.conf -- FollowSymlinks
[04:50] <DaSkreech> I've seen it on like 6 computers
[04:50] <DaSkreech> they both went quiet though
[04:50] <mshade> DaSkreech: what's the issue?
[04:50] <DaSkreech> I can't browse or resolve urls until I have pinged tehm
[04:50] <DaSkreech> them
[04:51] <mshade> now that's an odd one
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[04:51] <mshade> what's in your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:51] <intelikey> resolv.conf ?
[04:51] <intelikey> yes what mshade said.
[04:51] <DaSkreech> You can resolve stuff
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Just not in the GUI
[04:51] <mshade> hmmm
[04:51] <DaSkreech> on the CLI it works fine
[04:51] <DaSkreech>  w3m
[04:51] <mshade> disable IPv6
[04:51] <DaSkreech> apt-get
[04:51] <DaSkreech> mshade: !
[04:52] <DaSkreech> possibly
[04:52] <mshade> try disabling IPv6 for X :)
[04:52] <DaSkreech>  /proc something?
[04:52] <mshade> i'm hazy on where it had to be done.  i had that issue in slackware
[04:52] <mshade> i think on slack i had to actually edit the startx script
[04:53] <mshade> since you're booting graphical, it will be different
[04:53] <intelikey> hmmm i always disable ipv6 by default....   edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases   line 10
[04:53] <mshade> w00t to intelikey :)
[04:53] <intelikey> change from ipv6 to off
[04:53] <jeanmass> hello
[04:54] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Line 10? :-)
[04:54] <jeanmass> is the channel #kubuntu the same on irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net ?
[04:54] <intelikey> DaSkreech you'll see
[04:54] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: yes
[04:54] <DaSkreech> intelikey: line 17 entry 10
[04:54] <jeanmass> thx DaSkreech
[04:54] <intelikey> alias net-pf-10 off
[04:55] <intelikey> it the tenth line that is used... don't count comments...
[04:55] <jeanmass> hey guys, my first user crashed, i created a second user. Now i need to recover my data from the home of the first user
[04:55] <jeanmass> but it is locked
[04:55] <DaSkreech> yeah but vi /etc/modprobe.d +10 doesn't work that well
[04:55] <intelikey> DaSkreech heh  ok.
[04:55] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: sudo it
[04:56] <mshade> jeanmass: easiest will probably be to chown it to your new user
[04:56] <intelikey> i'm not a vi'er my self.
[04:56] <stdin> jeanmass: use something like this to unlock it (from konsole): sudo chmod o+rx /home/olduser
[04:56] <DaSkreech> intelikey: emacs?
[04:56] <intelikey> mc
[04:56] <intelikey> mc -e
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Suppose I actually use ipv6 ?
[04:56] <mshade> DaSkreech: then you wouldn't be having this problem ;)
[04:56] <intelikey> then don't disable it   lol
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[04:56] <jeanmass> the idea would be to copy my data from /home/user1 to /home/user2
[04:57] <DaSkreech>  ok we should be moving to ipv6 next year
[04:57] <jeanmass> and then to set user2 as the owner of this data
[04:57] <DaSkreech> lets see if it goes away then
[04:57] <stdin> jeanmass: you may want to make it recursive too: sudo chmod -R o+rx /home/user1, then you can use konqueror to copy what you want
[04:57] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: what do you mean your first user crashed?
[04:57] <jeanmass> kde do no work with 1st user
[04:57] <daifunai> someone here is familiar with gtk-gnutella
[04:57] <daifunai> i just know it
[04:58] <daifunai> anyone know why it's not working?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: Ahh and rather than fix it you just want to move to a new user?
[04:58] <intelikey> stdin why not -A ?   it will need a chwon anyway
[04:58] <jeanmass> yes DaSkreech
[04:58] <stdin> intelikey: when the user copies it, they should become the owner
[04:59] <intelikey> but that user is root in your example
[04:59] <BluesKaj> amule is the fav it seems
[04:59] <intelikey> stdin or did i miss something ?
[04:59] <jeanmass> stdin: what does sudo chmod -R o+rx /home/user1 do?
[04:59] <mshade> intelikey: do the chown as root, then copy it as a user to the new home -- it'll take ownership of the user
[05:00] <mshade> jeanmass: changes permissions on your old home to be readable to your new user
[05:00] <stdin> intelikey: nope, root is only used to give others read and execute (tho chown is probably better)
[05:01] <stdin> jeanmass: you can try just resetting kde in the 1st users account, just delete /home/user1/.kde/
[05:01] <jeanmass> done stdin
[05:01] <intelikey> mshade yeah that will work.   there are plural avanews to removal of the felion epedurmus

[05:01] <mshade> lol
[05:02] <jeanmass> stdin: rm -R /home/user1/.kde/ ?
[05:02] <Alonea> so far, still no luck...
[05:02] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: nope
[05:02] <mshade> jeanmass: you better just move it instead of remove it
[05:02] <mshade> so you don't lose anythign you didn't want to ;)
[05:02] <DaSkreech> mv /home/user1/.kde /home/user1/.kde_bkup
[05:02] <mshade> bingo
[05:02] <nonuda_> stdin, what is the good application for programmer? i need something like VB
[05:03] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: that way you can restore your settings
[05:03] <Alonea> nonuda_: I like Eclipse
[05:03] <silverravage> help?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> instead of setting everything back up manually
[05:03] <jeanmass> i think i'll use user2 from now on anyway
[05:03] <stdin> nonuda_: I just use KDevelop, tho I don't code too much (still learning)
[05:03] <DaSkreech> and you can keep your amarok library :-)
[05:03] <stdin> !ask | silverravage
[05:03] <jeanmass> i have entered sudo chmod -R o+rx /home/user1
[05:03] <ubotu> silverravage: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:03] <nonuda_> is it have GUI?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> !ask | silverravage
[05:03] <K`zan> jhutchins:  Answer turned out to be: update-initramfs -k 2.6.whatever -c
[05:04] <jeanmass> now, if i move my data to /home/user2
[05:04] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: copy away then
[05:04] <silverravage> Beryl is crashing, when ever i try to run it the screen goes black then kicks me out to the login help?
[05:04] <jeanmass> will user2 be considered as the owner?
[05:04] <intelikey> DaSkreech be advised that simple mv .kde_bkup .kde after a kde login will not restore settings.   kde's save session on logout is involved there.
[05:05] <stdin> jeanmass: when you (as user2) copy the files then user2 will become the owner
[05:05] <silverravage> DaSkreech?
[05:06] <intelikey> DaSkreech i'm sure you knew that.  but that's why i always advise tar rather than mv for a backup of .kde/
[05:06] <jeanmass> ok perfect
[05:06] <jeanmass> user1 has a lot of crap in his home
[05:07] <jeanmass> to much config folders of old programs that i dont use anymore
[05:08] <Alonea> nonuda_: yeah, eclipse is GUI and does multiple languages.
[05:08] <stdin> jeanmass: if you have user2 setup the way you want, you can just copy /home/user2/.kde/config and /home/user2/.kde/share to the /home/user1/.kde dir (then sudo chown -R user1:user1 /home/user1/.kde), that should make kde use the settings from user2
[05:08] <DaSkreech> intelikey: oh no I know that. but I normally just keep it there and as I open applications and go .o0(Crap. I have to set this back up again!!!) I just copy over the folder and I'm happy :)
[05:08] <DaSkreech> unless of course it's the app that made KDe go nuts
[05:09] <intelikey> heh yeah unless  :)
[05:09] <Alonea> nonuda_: should be in repo, though if it has problems will have to compile from source. It might be a bit confusing at first in the compiling and running stages, but you get used to it pretty quick
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Which in my expericne is normally amarok
[05:09] <Alonea> nonuda_: what kinda stuff are you programming?
[05:09] <jeanmass> stdin: it's allright i am starting to move my data from /home/user1 to /home/user2
[05:09] <jeanmass> and then i'll just delete user1
[05:10] <utnubuk> an assignment i was working on for school became corrupted or something and now all i see is a bunch of # signs in the docs....  if i try to open the file it asks me about ASCII filter options
[05:10] <utnubuk> any ideas?  i might be really screwed ......
[05:10] <stdin> amarok has always been great for me
[05:10] <jeanmass> i am so happy to have kubuntu working again
[05:11] <jeanmass> i ve been on win for 2 weeks now
[05:11] <intelikey> stdin then i don't guess i have missed anything by not liking it... :)
[05:11] <nonuda_> Alonea: yes i see it in adept manager,databases & networking, i used VB and ms access
[05:12] <jeanmass> what is better for the net: konqueror or firefox?
[05:12] <intelikey> links2
[05:12] <intelikey> :)
[05:12] <Alonea> nonuda_: okies. hmm. I use eclipse for programming my java programs.
[05:12] <kari21> salut tout le monde
[05:13] <Alonea> kari21: language?
[05:13] <utnubuk> this is weird as hell - I zipped my paper into a tar archive (which is 20 kb) and the extracted product is half that.....
[05:13] <utnubuk> what is going on here?
[05:14] <intelikey> utnubuk you zipped it ?    gzip or bzip2 ?
[05:14] <Alonea> dunno dear
[05:14] <utnubuk> intelikey: i just did tar -cvvf
[05:14] <intelikey> tar is not compressed.
[05:14] <utnubuk> hmm
[05:15] <nonuda_> i'm planning to migrate all of my office pc from Xp to Linux, but the main problem is me, coz i already get to used with windows
[05:15] <intelikey> need  j  or  z    to compress it bzip2 or gzip  respectively
[05:15] <utnubuk> intelikey: either way I cant get the file back to its original version
[05:15] <kari21> ques qu'il a mon language
[05:15] <nonuda_> stdin 11 years in linux, me 11 years in windows
[05:15] <intelikey> utnubuk how are you trying ?
[05:15] <utnubuk> right click -> extract here and tar -xvvf
[05:16] <utnubuk> both ways dont work
[05:16] <intelikey> well the tar command should work.
[05:16] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: Whichever you like
[05:17] <DaSkreech> !fr | kari21
[05:17] <intelikey> tar x filename
[05:17] <ubotu> kari21: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:17] <utnubuk> the tar file is 20 kb, the extracted file is 10 kb and definitly not the original file
[05:17] <utnubuk> ok
[05:17] <kari21> thank you verry much
[05:17] <stdin> nonuda_: I just hated windows from the start :P
[05:18] <DaSkreech> kari21: Merci!
[05:18] <nonuda_> lol
[05:18] <DaSkreech> stdin: I liked it!! Then I used it :(
[05:19] <utnubuk> intelikey: when i do that the console just hangs, nothing happens...
[05:19] <intelikey> utnubuk i hope not but the .ext 'might' be causing trubble.  what's the name ?
[05:19] <stdin> 9x wasn't too bad, but it just got worse and worse
[05:19] <jeanmass> DaSkreech: konqueror de not work well on gmail
[05:19] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: Did you change the user agent?
[05:19] <jeanmass> and there is not a "clear private data"
[05:20] <utnubuk> the file i want is .odt, the file causing probs is .tar
[05:20] <jeanmass> and konqueror do not work well with a few pages
[05:20] <jeanmass> i should change it for gmail?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: yes
[05:20] <jeanmass> to what?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> tools -> change browser -> other -> firefox
[05:20] <stdin> firefox
[05:21] <unix_infidel> anyone downloaded and tried the beta distupgrade yet?
[05:21] <nonuda_> time to go..bye guys
[05:21] <intelikey> utnubuk and if you use ark filename.tar   it does what ?
[05:21] <jeanmass> and how can i delete private data?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> I don't know if there is one button to do that
[05:22] <jeanmass> i have also the impression that konqueror do not remember passwords well
[05:22] <DaSkreech> You can delete cookies and passwords
[05:22] <utnubuk> brings up ark, same thing (it shows the file as 10 kb big)
[05:22] <DaSkreech>  two buttons
[05:22] <unix_infidel> you can setup a keybind to do it on .3
[05:22] <utnubuk> intelikey: would it help if i just sent you the file? i need to get this thing done for tomorrow :/
[05:22] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Hmmm?
[05:23] <utnubuk> if its lost its lost, but i had 2 pages
[05:23] <unix_infidel> control+shift+delete (assuming you've set it not to prompt you)
[05:23] <intelikey> jeanmass you can delete anything in your home if you own $HOME and it set rwx*
[05:23] <intelikey> utnubuk if you can send it send it.
[05:23] <unix_infidel> goes ahead and takes care of all the privacy options.
[05:23] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: that's for jeanmass?
[05:23] <unix_infidel> whoweve wanted to know how to take care of privacy stuff.
[05:24] <unix_infidel> its a simple way to get rid of cookies, saved password, etc.
[05:24] <Alonea> any more ideas people on how I can get this installed?
[05:24] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Is that in settings -> Shortcuts ?
[05:24] <intelikey> utnubuk try again.
[05:25] <intelikey> -:- DCC Unable to create connection: Connection refused
[05:25] <intelikey> you firewalled ?
[05:25] <jeanmass> ctrl+shift+del in konqueror
[05:25] <utnubuk> ... yeah let me fix that quick
[05:25] <jeanmass> i'll try that
[05:25] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: where is this documented? o.0
[05:26] <jeanmass> does not seem to do anythin
[05:28] <jeanmass> why is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 by default (Mac) by default for google and gmail?
[05:28] <jeanmass> why is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 (Mac) by default by default for google and gmail?
[05:29] <jeanmass> why is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 (Mac) by default for google and gmail?
[05:29] <jeanmass> the 3rd one is correct
[05:29] <utnubuk> intelikey: i cant even ping my router, this is wierd....  i'll just have to retype the whole thing thanks for trying to help anyway
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Feisty?
[05:30] <jeanmass> edgy
[05:31] <intelikey> utnubuk if the problem was caused by a typo or something you can look in the shell history and see what happened... might shed some light and help understand how to prevent reoccurances.    less ~/.bash_history
[05:32] <jeanmass> why is konqueror set as Mozilla/5.0 (Mac) by default for google and gmail?
[05:33] <|Iwonder|> jeanmass: huh?
[05:34] <jeanmass> yes
[05:34] <jeanmass> i am in a clean new user
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat
[05:34] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:34] <|Iwonder|> my guess would the person/persons who built it had theirs set that way
[05:35] <intelikey> jeanmass didn't you do   cp /home/user1 /home/user2  ?    how can you call that clean ?
[05:35] <silverravage> shadowline ??
[05:35] <jeanmass> no i did not intelikey
[05:35] <|Iwonder|> jeanmass:  google building a livecd
[05:35] <jeanmass> i copy home/user1/data
[05:35] <intelikey> ok saw it talked about...  thought you said you did.
[05:36] <jeanmass> mmm
[05:36] <jeanmass> anyway
[05:36] <|Iwonder|> it mat shed light on how kubuntu was put together
[05:36] <jeanmass> on a clean user
[05:36] <|Iwonder|> if it bothers you change it
[05:36] <jeanmass> i opoen konqueror > tools > change browser id > configure
[05:36] <silverravage> hey iam trying to install the nvidia drivers and iam following wiki on the beryl site for edgy, i get to where i need to shut down X.org
[05:36] <jeanmass> and by default there ir
[05:37] <silverravage> and i type in sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:37] <intelikey> jeanmass anyway.  mainly cause browser  konqueror is not supported and neither is os linux   by most sites.
[05:37] <jeanmass> Mozilla/5.0 (Mac)  for google and gmail
[05:37] <silverravage> but it just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor and i cant type any commands in
[05:37] <jeanmass> but mozilla/5.0 neither
[05:37] <inteliwasp> is it posible to make the eject button on my cd drive auto-unmount the cd and eject?
[05:37] <jeanmass> they could have put firefox
[05:37] <silverravage> i mean i can type but if i type sudo sh ./NVIDIA* it doesnt do anything
[05:38] <|Iwonder|> jeanmass: ,konqueror comes as a source,someone had to compile it and place it on the cd you used to load your system,that person had theirs set that way
[05:38] <hsystem-x> silverravage
[05:38] <silverravage> ?
[05:38] <jeanmass> ok
[05:38] <hsystem-x> on the beryl site, there's a comment nexto to the instructions that tells you what to do when screen goes black. Thats normal
[05:38] <hsystem-x> you have to run gdm again.
[05:39] <silverravage> gdm start?
[05:39] <hsystem-x> no.
[05:39] <hsystem-x> well let me search wait a minute .
[05:39] <|Iwonder|> jeanmass:  try to install a linux from all sources,you will appreciate the time they took to put this together
[05:39] <silverravage> ok..
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> gdm
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> is the start up command
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> for gdm
[05:40] <Jucato> gdm <- gnome display manager. won't be present on Kubuntu/KDE
[05:40] <jeanmass> i am discovering linux mate
[05:40] <jeanmass> =)
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> good point
[05:40] <utnubuk> intelikey: tar -cvvf paper3.tar 3rd\ Long.odt makes sense, right??
[05:40] <HGXiphias> kdm however will be
[05:40] <hsystem-x> ah ok
[05:40] <|Iwonder|> try kdm
[05:40] <hsystem-x> is kdm
[05:40] <hsystem-x> sorry
[05:41] <hsystem-x> i was thinking on gnome
[05:41] <silverravage> the wiki tells me to do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then thats when the screen goes black and a blinking cursor comes up, then i type in sudo sh ./NVIDIA* and nothing happens
[05:41] <hsystem-x> which version of kubuntu you have?
[05:41] <SilentDis> greetings and salutations :)
[05:41] <hsystem-x> 6.06? 6.10?
[05:41] <|Iwonder|> silverravage: type sudo killall kdm then kdm
[05:41] <intelikey> utnubuk yeah.  to create it it does.
[05:42] <silverravage> hsystem-x i think 6.10 iam running Ubuntu Ultimate Edition1.3
[05:42] <intelikey> utnubuk assuming that   3rd\ Long.odt was a file in the pwd.
[05:42] <intelikey> or a dir...
[05:42] <HGXiphias> Ultimate edition? :S
[05:42] <Alonea> anyone can think of another IRC channel that might be able to help me?
[05:42] <SilentDis> Alonea: what problem are you having?
[05:42] <silverravage> wonder? should i try that sudo killall kdm
[05:43] <HGXiphias> Are you using Kubuntu, or Ubuntu?
[05:43] <Jucato> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:43] <silverravage> i mean i am running gnome
[05:43] <Jucato> hm.. #ubuntu then?
[05:43] <HGXiphias> Yarr
[05:43] <|Iwonder|> if you need to kill your display manager/X
[05:43] <HGXiphias> Yes
[05:43] <hsystem-x>  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:43] <hsystem-x> that's the command
[05:43] <utnubuk> intelikey: oh well, this is going to be a long night :) have a good one man
[05:44] <|Iwonder|> either killall kdm or /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:44] <SilentDis> silverravage: i'd recommend checking into #ubuntu to be sure of things if you're running GDM/Gnome rather than KDM/KDE
[05:44] <hsystem-x> Silver do a:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:44] <hsystem-x> that's what the page tells...
[05:44] <hsystem-x> when the screen goes black.
[05:44] <intelikey> utnubuk u 2
[05:44] <Alonea> SilentDis: adept was mean, it uninstalled my fglrx when I removed another package. Fglrx wasnt even supposed to use the older version...anyway, now I can't install it anymore. I get this when I try to install the ati driver http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/ ...and i KNOW all the needed depend. are there.
[05:45] <hsystem-x> if you are using ubuntu is gdm, if it is kubuntu is kdm.
[05:45] <hsystem-x> you*
[05:46] <SilentDis> Alonea: you're installing the ati binary blob right?
[05:46] <Alonea> SilentDis: yup...again.
[05:47] <SilentDis> Alonea: i'm personally running nvidia and had MANY problems myself.  !envy solved all my issues, and from other's i've recommended it to, they all say it works just fine for ati too.  have you tried envy yet?
[05:47] <hsystem-x> .
[05:47] <jeanmass> can i remove --purge with adept?
[05:47] <Alonea> SilentDis: it gets exact same error messages in that pastebin that I do
[05:48] <SilentDis> Alonea: with envy?  wow.
[05:48] <Alonea> SilentDis: yuuuup
[05:48] <jeanmass> i entered sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox
[05:48] <jeanmass> but there is still .mozilla/firefox in my home
[05:48] <SilentDis> Alonea: try this before installing, just to make sure everything is up to snuff:  sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude install build-essential
[05:49] <intelikey> jeanmass    dpkg -l | grep firefox
[05:49] <SilentDis> Alonea: that'll update your package list, upgrade anything outstanding, and reinstall build-essential for you
[05:49] <intelikey> oh nm.
[05:49] <jeanmass> intelikey: what is that for?
[05:49] <intelikey> jeanmass package managers do NOT touch your home dir
[05:49] <jeanmass> how do they remove config files?
[05:49] <Alonea> SilentDis: 0 installed, upgraded, etc.
[05:50] <SilentDis> Alonea: that's good.  did it succeed in reinstalling build-essential?
[05:50] <Alonea> SilentDis: yup...and ati still no install...
[05:50] <jeanmass> how to remove the config folders in home then?
[05:50] <intelikey> jeanmass if you are refering to personalization "config files" they dont.
[05:50] <SilentDis> Alonea: darn.  I do apologize, but just to be sure, that is the latest ati binary blob right?
[05:51] <jeanmass> ok
[05:51] <intelikey> jeanmass rm -r .mozilla*
[05:51] <jeanmass> i have to do it manually?
[05:51] <intelikey> yep
[05:51] <Alonea> SilentDis: yuuuup. using exact same one I installed it the first time with 3 days ago.
[05:51] <jeanmass> is safe to remove a .whateverfolder in home?
[05:51] <Alonea> SilentDis: and Envy downloaded the latest and got same error..
[05:51] <intelikey> you put it there you remove it.    "put it there by changing settings in the app"
[05:51] <SilentDis> Alonea: ok.. you're using Kubuntu 6.10 (edgy) right?
[05:52] <intelikey> yes it safe to remove ~/*
[05:52] <intelikey> it is ^
[05:52] <Alonea> SilentDis: yeah, and I got this once before when I tried to install this on 64bit...but it was looking for lib64 stuff then, so I went back to 32 bit which installed this perfectly fine..that is untill adept ruined it.
[05:52] <SilentDis> jeanmass: the most 'harm' that'll happen by removing a directory in your home folder is if it's settings for an app, it'll rebuild the next time it's started
[05:53] <intelikey> safe....     and at times might be desireable...   rm -r ~/.??* ~/*
[05:53] <SilentDis> Alonea: ok... stupid possible solution.  have you tried switching from dash to bash, just to be sure it's not something stupid in a script?
[05:53] <jeanmass> i am entering rm -r ~/.??* ~/* right now then
[05:53] <Jucato> intelikey?
[05:54] <Jucato> jeanmass: no
[05:54] <SilentDis> Alonea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[05:54] <Jucato> unless that is what you want
[05:54] <jeanmass> ?
[05:54] <intelikey> Jucato and why not ?
 unless that is what you want
[05:54] <Alonea> it has been bash...i use command bash ./ati-blah blah blah.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy
[05:54] <intelikey> k
[05:54] <jeanmass> Jucato: i want to remove old config folders from home
[05:55] <Alonea> ok, will try that..and nope..didnt work.
[05:55] <Jucato> jeanmass: ok. if you're comfortable deleting them without any chance of recovery. otherwise I'd recommend just moving them first
[05:55] <SilentDis> Alonea: checking seveas and alberto repos, seeing if they've got a prebuilt deb available...
[05:55] <Jucato> jeanmass: also, that will not only delete configs
[05:55] <Jucato> it will also delete app data like mails, playlists, feeds, etc
[05:55] <jeanmass> ok
[05:55] <Alonea> SilentDis: @@...?
[05:55] <Jucato> passwords too
[05:56] <SilentDis> Alonea: rather than hand-building it on your 'puter, there might be a pre-built ready to use .deb file that you can just let dpkg install for you.
[05:56] <Alonea> ok, what would the file name be?
[05:57] <SilentDis> Alonea: checking repos now... give me a moment, i'm on dialup lol
[05:57] <Alonea> wait..i still have some fglrx deb files...
[05:57] <coco> hi everybody
[05:57] <Alonea> nm...they are for old driver
[05:59] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: see ya mate God bless u
[05:59] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: You too
[05:59] <lnxkde> hehehe btw DaSkreech I am using Oxygen on KDE 3 ;)
[05:59] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: I'm trying to hold off on KDe4 stuff tilli t hits
[06:00] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: I know emotion fades
[06:00] <DaSkreech>  I compiled strigi and marble though
[06:00] <lnxkde> but still
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Like them?
[06:00] <lnxkde> yep prety neet
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Emotion?
[06:00] <lnxkde> feelings ;)
[06:00] <lnxkde> sorry
[06:00] <lnxkde> emocion <--- in spanish
[06:00] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:01] <lnxkde> my english and spanish get mixed sometimes
[06:01] <lnxkde> hehehe
[06:01] <lnxkde> ;)
[06:01] <DaSkreech> no emotion is right i was just wondering if you meant the feeling or ... something else
[06:01] <Alonea> it made sense to me..
[06:01] <Alonea> ^___^
[06:01] <lnxkde> ohh
[06:01] <lnxkde> well my english is not too bad then ;)
[06:01] <Alonea> i think I am used to other ways of speaking anyways..
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Alonea: It made sense to me in two ways. I just wanted to clarify :)
[06:02] <Alonea> DaSkreech: ?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: no it isn't :)
[06:02] <|Iwonder|> got a question,when i get this machine configured the way i want is there an easy way to creat a ckone of it for easy reinstall
[06:02] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: &%*($%(#((@*
[06:02] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: How is that compiz blog going? :-)
[06:02] <lnxkde> LMAO nothing really
[06:02] <lnxkde> I dont have time to blog
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Want to know how many meanings I can get out of ^^^ that? :)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: RL?
[06:02] <lnxkde> but I got my beryl/NvidiaGL and all my system running very nice
[06:03] <Alonea> DaSkreech: what do you want to clarify?
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Alonea: It's clarified :)
[06:03] <Alonea> DaSkreech: ok, what is clarified, that I am screwed?
[06:04] <lnxkde> well guys I have to go Its 1am here and I have to work tomorow
[06:04] <lnxkde> God bless
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Alonea: are we in the same conversation?
[06:04] <Alonea> DaSkreech: probably not...I am confused...
[06:04] <intelikey> DaSkreech you know the differance between a duck ?
[06:05] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Sure
[06:05] <intelikey> DaSkreech one leg is both the same.
[06:05] <DaSkreech>  just run diff :)
[06:05] <SilentDis> Alonea: i'm not seeing the packages listed in alberto's repo...  checking seveas now.
[06:05] <Alonea> DaSkreech: ya know what..I figured it out now..ignore me. its late and I am not all here..
[06:05] <Alonea> SilentDis: okies, thanks love
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Alonea: you can fix it tomorrow :)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Alonea: I guess #ubuntu-effects did not help?
[06:06] <Alonea> nope
[06:06] <intelikey> conversation thought idea irc Alonea
[06:06] <Alonea> intelikey: uuwa?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Ha ha ha
[06:07] <SilentDis> Alonea: not seeing it from seveas either :(
[06:07] <intelikey> ok. back to work.
[06:07] <Alonea> SilentDis: ok
[06:07] <Alonea> intelikey: am I being made fun of? *sniffles*
[06:07] <jeanmass> thank you very much for your help
[06:07] <jeanmass> i'am going to study now
[06:07] <jeanmass> see you later
[06:08] <SilentDis> Alonea: i'm not sure what to suggest now.  this is the first time i've seen someone fail a driver build for either ati or nvidia that has the build-essential package, AND had envy fail as well.  i'm at a loss :(
[06:08] <Alonea> SilentDis: its ok, so are 3 other channels.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> what card do you have
[06:09] <DaSkreech>  why do you need an old gcc?
[06:10] <Alonea> DaSkreech: i dont need an old gcc, when I removed an older one, adept removed stuff for my video card riiiiight along with it
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Alonea: ... Umm Ok
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Walk me though what happened?
[06:12] <intelikey> Alonea i don't make fun
[06:12] <Alonea> DaSkreech: ok, I was trying to fix another gcc problem I was having with another thing and thought maybe it was because there was more than one version of gcc on. 3.0 and 4.1 . So, I removed 3.0 and when I was watching the dialog i saw it said "removing fglrx" and stuff related to it as well. Now, I need to put it back on so I removed any other fglrx things I could think of and tried to...
[06:12] <Alonea> ...install again. Now I can't any more.
[06:12] <Alonea> intelikey: okay. I just didnt understand what you were saying
[06:13] <DaSkreech> intelikey: seen the pastebin of the problem?
[06:13] <Alonea> DaSkreech: now, I get this pretty little number, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[06:16] <alakhia> !wireless
[06:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:17] <DaSkreech> I take it apt-get install fglrx doesn't work?
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> hey all
[06:17] <nixternal> I hope not
[06:18] <Alonea> DaSkreech: not generally no. if I ever did it solely by repo before, baaaad things happened
[06:18] <DaSkreech> nixternal: :P
[06:18] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver
[06:18] <nixternal> ;p
[06:18] <Admiral_Chicago> haha
[06:18] <Alonea> i tried that earlier and i think I got it sorta on there, but then it was at mesa with more problems created...
[06:19] <nixternal> sudo aticonfig --initial && sudo aticonfig --overlay=Xv
[06:19] <nixternal> I think
[06:19] <nixternal> don't use the documentation on our wiki because you will do nothing but cuss us, there is an ATI wiki somewhere in the world that has great docs that will make it work for you
[06:20] <Alonea> well it worked first time around nixternal just fine, until adept kinda removed parts of it...at this point it will be quicker to reinstall system...again, for i think the 4th time now in a month
[06:22] <nixternal> shh
[06:22] <nixternal> I am the know nothing bot!
[06:22] <Jucato> :D
[06:22] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago only talks when I allow him to talk, he knows better
[06:22] <Jucato> and I'm the bot that doesn't know everything about KDE :D
[06:22] <nixternal> bull!
[06:22] <Alonea> and I am the bot that spouts and creates problems
[06:23] <Jucato> Alonea: nah. you don't create problesm. ATI does that for you :P
[06:23] <Alonea> i am the human virus for linux. i do nothing but destroy it.
[06:23] <Alonea> Jucato: this isn't the only way i have broken linux (er..,ati has blame too then). ^__________^
[06:24] <Jucato> :D
[06:24] <Alonea> I still love how I completely utterly locked myself out of my own useraccount
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Alonea: All is fixable with a Live CD patience and knowledge
[06:25] <Alonea> when I tried to log in, I would put pass in, it would start to login, then go back to pass screen in an endless loops
[06:25] <jeanmass> hello
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Well time to strip this wallpaper
[06:25] <jeanmass> i am doing some backup
[06:25] <Alonea> and I could not even login under the recovery either.
 Alonea: All is fixable with a Live CD patience and knowledge... -> and a portable DaSkreech
[06:25] <Alonea> lol
[06:25] <jeanmass> i am copying folders from /home to external hdd (ipod)
[06:25] <DaSkreech> maybe a cheering squad :)
[06:25] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: good idea
[06:26] <Alonea> yeha, I tink I will just say screw it and reinstall Kubuntu..wow...how many times have I said that for windows too...
[06:26] <Jucato> better than simply rm'ing :)
[06:26] <jeanmass> when i right click on /home/folder properties
[06:26] <jeanmass> and /media/ipod/storage/folder properties
[06:26] <alakhia> I have a question about wireless networking ...
[06:26] <Alonea> Linux better not catch up number wise on reformats due to windows...
[06:26] <jeanmass> i have the same files and folders
[06:26] <alakhia> Everytime I boot up, I don't have networking and I need to run wireless assistant
[06:26] <jeanmass> but the size varies a bit
[06:26] <Alonea> at least I dont have to reformat my home folder and just root
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Alonea: You can fix it if you have faith
[06:27] <alakhia> is there any way I can have my settings be persistent?
[06:27] <Alonea> DaSkreech: uh huh, but reformatting in this case will take me 20 minutes and to get wifi and vid card back another 10 at most.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Oh Yeah I know
[06:27] <alakhia> also, does knetworkmanager any good?
[06:27] <jeanmass> for instance
[06:28] <DaSkreech>  I've taken 5 days to fix a X problem that could be solved by a 15 minute install
[06:28] <unix_infidel> alpha testing ftw.
[06:28] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: overall size is the same?
[06:28] <Alonea> DaSkreech: yup. sometimes simplest solution is best
[06:28] <alakhia> or anyone know what /etc files to mess with?
[06:28] <DaSkreech>  Filesysystem differences can cause small size diffeernces
[06:28] <jeanmass>  /home/folder 80files, 3subfolders, 15,214,413
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Wehn time is of the essence
[06:29] <DaSkreech>  but knowing how to fix problems helps you a lot
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: quiet, I don't need your permission
[06:29] <Alonea> DaSkreech: or stress will cause laptop to be thrown into wall..
[06:29] <Alonea> DaSkreech: that it does.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Possibly
[06:29] <jeanmass>  /media/ipod/storage/folder 80files, 3subfolders, 15,214,509
[06:29] <alakhia> can any one help?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: he's in the wallpaper don't do that
[06:29] <alakhia> please?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> See now the wallpaper is all ripped :-(
[06:30] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: yeah that's cool
[06:30] <Alonea> DaSkreech: and I certainly know all I ever needed to know about ndiswrapper...
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> oh dang sorry DaSkreech
[06:30] <DaSkreech> alakhia: What isn't sticking?
[06:30] <alakhia> DaSkreech: my wireless settings ... I always need to run wireless assistant
[06:31] <DaSkreech> alakhia: umm not sure does it have a save settings button?
[06:31] <alakhia> DaSkreech: I wish!
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Hey this is a family spot
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Jucato: take down that ubuntu "human" wallpaper!
[06:31] <Jucato> dang! I thought you wouldn't notice...
[06:31] <Jucato> :(
[06:31] <jeanmass> folder 2: same amount of files and subfolders but 4,259,942,206 at home and 4,259,970,878
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Help alakhia for a bit I gotta run out
[06:32] <jeanmass> am i losing some data?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> jeanmass: not sure. There will be size differences between two file systems
[06:32] <Alonea> Jucato: if you use that guerilla glue...he wont be able to move..pierod. I love that stuff. best glue ever
[06:32] <Alonea> *period
[06:32] <jeanmass> one is linux, the other FAT32 (ipod)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> some store large files effiecently some store small files
[06:33] <intelikey> cp + symlinks @ jeanmass
[06:33] <Jucato> DaSkreech, alakhia: sorry, no idea about wireless stuff... :(
[06:33] <jeanmass> intelikey: ??
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Well pokesomeone who does
[06:33] <Alonea> alakhia: whats wrong with your wifi?
[06:33] <alakhia> Jucata & DaSkreech: Ok, thanks for trying
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Nothing
[06:33] <DaSkreech>  it just needs to get setup everytime he(?) boots
[06:33] <alakhia> Alonea: my wireless settings don't persist
[06:34] <alakhia> Alonea: yes, he is fine! :)
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Good :)
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Don't wanna assume :)
[06:34] <alakhia> Alonea: I need to run wireless assistant everytime
[06:34] <alakhia> Alonea: I was fine the first few times ... but now I hate doing it
[06:34] <Alonea> like, it wont turn on? as in modules or something else? Of course I am used to having ndiswrapper to get my wifi card to do anything. though once its on, I dont have to do anything at al
[06:35] <jeanmass> if same amoount of files and subfolders, then backup is ok?
[06:35] <alakhia> Alonea: I don't know about modules ... seems like my wireless card is working
[06:35] <alakhia> Alonea: I just need to tell it which network to connect to
[06:35] <Alonea> oh ok. so its just not connecting automatically?
[06:35] <alakhia> Alonea: maybe it is getting confused because I have an ethernet card too?
[06:36] <alakhia> Alonea: yes ... don't have to load modules or anything
[06:36] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, and have you tried right clicking, telling it to foget settings, and then telling it to do automatic again?
[06:37] <bumzo> hi guys ... who here knows how to add MSN to kopote?
[06:37] <daifunai> i need my comp to interact with my secondary hard drive
[06:37] <ubuntu> k
[06:38] <DarkED> hi all, when i try to run beryl in kubuntu 6.10 i get > Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[06:38] <DarkED> No composite extension found
[06:38] <Alonea> alakhia: and whats the seconds for the timeout under options for the wifi spot?
[06:38] <alakhia> Alonea: ok, tried forget settings
[06:38] <DarkED> anyone have any ideas?
[06:38] <alakhia> Alonea: 15s
[06:39] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, thats fine...
[06:39] <alakhia> Alonea: there is nothing saying automatic anything
[06:39] <alakhia> Alonea: if I right click my network, my only choice is "Disconnect"
[06:39] <Alonea> uuuwa?!
[06:40] <alakhia> Alonea: I upgraded from Dapper ... did that mess things up?
[06:40] <Alonea> alakhia: I have an automatic dhcpc thing choice. like, you right click, do edit settings, and set to auto...
[06:40] <Alonea> dunno. never had daper
[06:40] <Alonea> what version is your assistant?
[06:41] <alakhia> Alonea: hmm, I only have 3 buttons on right side: Refresh, Options and Quit
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Jucato: yes?
[06:41] <alakhia> Alonea: 0.5.5
[06:41] <Jucato> ??
[06:41] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, thats right. hmm, maybe its not running as root or something..
[06:41] <Alonea> alakhia: it asks for password when you try to start is right?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> bumzo: I know!
[06:41] <alakhia> Alonea: no, I type my password before it starts
[06:42] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, and you dont have an edit settings when you right click the place you are currently connected to?
[06:42] <DaSkreech> DarkED: Maybe you don't have the XComposite :)
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Jucato: You poked me
[06:42] <alakhia> Alonea: not anymore ... I asked it to forget settings
[06:43] <DaSkreech> g0od_girl: right
[06:43] <alakhia> Alonea: let me try to disconnect and reconnect
[06:43] <Alonea> alakhia: oh, duh. yeah, disconnect. reconnect. then do edit settings..
[06:43] <alakhia> Alonea: I'll be back!
[06:43] <Alonea> alakhia: k
 Jucato: Well pokesomeone who does
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Jerk
[06:44] <Jucato> O.o
[06:44] <Jucato> now you want me to... nvm.
[06:44] <bumzo> anyone with onything on kopote?
[06:44] <Alonea> awww! now come on dears. be nice.
[06:44] <Alonea> we gotta LOVE each other
[06:45] <Jucato> what's onything? a new service/IM?
[06:45] <DaSkreech> bumzo: I know!
[06:45] <Jucato> !love
[06:46] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[06:46] <Jucato> :D
[06:46] <Alonea> LOL
[06:46] <bumzo> daskreech: please help me out
[06:46] <Alonea> you are loverly Jucato
[06:46] <Alonea> hmm...!ati
[06:46] <alakhia> Alonea: ok, I have edit settings choice when I right click
[06:46] <alakhia> Alonea: it is in automatic mode
[06:46] <alakhia> Alonea: so everything is greyed out
[06:46] <Jucato> !ati | Alonea
[06:46] <ubotu> Alonea: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:46] <DaSkreech> bumzo: Neva!!!! Muwahahaha
[06:47] <Alonea> needs a description of evil
[06:47] <DaSkreech> bumzo: You seriously can't figure it out?
[06:47] <alakhia> Alonea: ok, am back
[06:47] <Alonea> alakhia: ok, hopefully it will autoconnect now
[06:48] <alakhia> Alonea: ok, let me try it ... thanks for your help
[06:48] <Alonea> like, have that description and then say "Otheriwise, commit seppuku."
  I dont commit for rockbox, but I sure I do get their svn builds.
[06:52] <Alonea> DaSkreech: I am happy then went to subversion...hated CVS
[06:52] <DaSkreech> There is only one honourable thing to do then
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Seppuku for everyone!!!! :)
[06:52] <DaSkreech> heehee
[06:52] <Alonea> I swear I am making this my msn for the next month
[06:52] <DaSkreech> bumzo: I'll get right on that. You still have to pay for your copy though
[06:53] <Alonea> it should be a t-shirt
[06:53] <dougb> are there any KDE snes emulators?
[06:54] <hsystem-x> yeah, there is one on synaptic ^^.
[06:54] <DaSkreech> !zsnes
[06:54] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:55] <dougb> its not available on feisty
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Alonea: I'll get right on that as well
[06:55] <DaSkreech> !zsnes feisty
[06:55] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:55] <dougb> hmmmmm
[06:55] <DaSkreech> dougb: ubotu disagrees
[06:55] <Alonea> DaSkreech: pimp it out to ThinkGeek
[06:55] <hsystem-x> good bot ^^
[06:55] <dougb> adept lies
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Alonea: they pay for that
[06:55] <DaSkreech> dougb: more possible than ubotu
[06:56] <hsystem-x> aptitude ^^
[06:56] <dougb> thats fine hsystem-x, i use apt-get :-P
[06:56] <Jucato> dang lag..
[06:57] <Alonea> DaSkreech: we hope. I can see people buying a shirt that says that. Its a opensource and japan joke all in one...
[06:58] <Romexios> Does anyone know how i can give my self permission to be able to run things in the background? i am trying to run an eggdrop..
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Romexios: just run it with a & at the end
[06:59] <DaSkreech> it will drop into the background
[06:59] <Alonea> well, I have this thing called school tomorrow...have to go pretend to listen in history...
[07:00] <Romexios> DaSkreech: Could you please be more precise? I type /.eggdrop name.conf so all i need todo is /.eggdrop name.conf& ?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> that's the idea
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Alonea: later
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Alonea: tomorrow?
[07:00] <Alonea> DaSkreech: later dear. Shall fix this damn..er beloved system tomorrow.
[07:00] <DaSkreech> darked__: Welcome back
[07:01] <Alonea> DaSkreech: yeah...probably during history...I take notes on my laptop.
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Hold the fort
[07:01] <DaSkreech>  Off to bed
[07:01] <Alonea> Jucato: yes, hold the fort.
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Alonea: It's not really broken :-P
[07:01] <DarkED> DaSkreech: Thanks, I'm having trouble with lockups =/
[07:01] <DaSkreech>  not like it can't boot past grub
[07:01] <Alonea> DaSkreech: just disfunctional, like me.
[07:01] <DaSkreech> nonuda_: Welcome back
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Alonea: we should hang out more :)
[07:02] <Alonea> DaSkreech: had that a couple times too. Its fun when you dont get ANY bootloader
[07:02] <DaSkreech> bumzo: night
[07:02] <nonuda_> hehe..yup..
[07:02] <meme-2> Hello folks, can someone remind me how to search for a file reclusively. (DOS equiv to dir /s \file*.* - search for any instance of any file beginning with "file" from all folders beginning at root)
[07:02] <meme-2> I wish to do this from terminal BTW. Thank you
[07:02] <DaSkreech> meme-2: Umm which of 20 ways do you want?
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> hey htere
[07:03] <DaSkreech> meme-2: ls -R | grep filename
[07:03] <meme-2> DaSkreech: pick your fav. :-)
[07:03] <Alonea> ^__________^
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you all need from me
[07:03] <DaSkreech> A tip of the hat
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Man I'm missing Futurama
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Night all
[07:04] <nonuda_> its noon..heh
[07:04] <Kite_DH> does anybody know a program to see in/outcoming connections?
[07:05] <intelikey> meme-2 find /base_dir/ -iname *string*
[07:05] <meme-2> DaSkreech: I though grep was for searching inside files?  Anyhow... when I try that, nothing seems to have, have to hit control-c
[07:06] <intelikey> meme-2 if you only want files     find /base_dir/ -type f -iname *string*     or exact match. remove the two asterisks
[07:08] <hackdaddy> how do i server up images from an apache2 perl script running from the cgi-bin under my home directory?
[07:09] <intelikey> meme-2 slocate is an app made for that also,  but it uses a database that can be out of date.   "sudo updatedb "   will put it back in sync       slocate blah
[07:09] <meme-2> intelikey: thanks that worked! I had installed kvirc... but it didn't show up in the menu or on the desk.  Found it and now it is running.
[07:09] <hackdaddy> apache2 seems to want to exec the images instead of displaying them
[07:10] <intelikey> meme-2 you should never need to find things you install via a package manager.  the executable should always be in your path.      (key word should)
[07:10] <hackdaddy> crap, i just figured it out
[07:11] <intelikey> meme-2 thus     kvir[tab]
[07:11] <hackdaddy> i thought that .. out of the cgi bin was forbidden???
[07:12] <intelikey> hackdaddy i know nothing about apache,  i'm cherokee
[07:13] <hackdaddy> man, i used to know that old apache1 conf file, but apache2 is quite different
[07:14] <Kite_DH> does anybody know a program to see in/outcoming connections?
[07:14] <DarkED> anyone know any good skydomes for Beryl?
[07:14] <Kite_DH> yes
[07:14] <Kite_DH> in the beryl forum
[07:15] <DarkED> Kite_DH: thanks
[07:15] <distroid> im having problems getting mysql to work... what password does it want?  it never asked during the install.
[07:18] <meme-1> Okay, I am back and inside KVIrc - thanks for all the help
[07:19] <firecrotc1> distroid: There is no password by default, but you'll want to change that
[07:19] <meme-1> I am not sure the "grass is greener" with this app. though.. I liked the cleaner interface with Konversation.
[07:19] <firecrotc1> distroid: mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD
[07:23] <distroid> oh i missed that last bit thanks
[07:23] <distroid> [slapping forehead]
[07:26] <jeanmass> hi
[07:26] <jeanmass> i want to delete the 1st user, the one you setup when installing kubuntu, but i cant!
[07:28] <intelikey> jeanmass have you set a root passowrd or added some other user to the admin group ?
[07:28] <distroid> exit
[07:28] <distroid> exit
[07:28] <distroid> exit
[07:28] <distroid> exit
[07:28] <intelikey> /exit
[07:29] <distroid> duh thanks
[07:29] <jeanmass> yes other users are in the admin group
[07:29] <nixternal> hahahahahahaha
[07:30] <intelikey> jeanmass then as one of the other users  sudo userdel firstusername
[07:31] <jeanmass> done
[07:31] <jeanmass> how can i check if it worked properly?
[07:32] <intelikey> try to login as that user
[07:32] <jeanmass> ok it worked
[07:32] <intelikey> grep that username from /etc/passwd
[07:32] <jeanmass> now i have to del /home
[07:32] <jeanmass> !adm
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <intelikey> jeanmass there was a switch that would have done that too.   but just a note.  you don't mean /home  you mean /home/user1    unless your other users don't live in /home/
[07:34] <jeanmass> yes /home/user1
[07:34] <jeanmass> a switch? you mean graphical?
[07:35] <intelikey> jeanmass good practice, and common sense says, if someone gives you a command to run and you are not fameliar with it.    man command     first.
[07:35] <intelikey> jeanmass no i mean a switch.
[07:35] <intelikey> man userdel
[07:36] <jeanmass> i m not sure what you mean
[07:36] <intelikey> man userdel
[07:36] <jeanmass> but i've done what i wanted
[07:36] <jeanmass> thanx!
[07:36] <intelikey> man man
[07:36] <intelikey> man intro
[07:37] <jeanmass> by the way what is the adm group for?
[07:37] <intelikey> idk
[07:37] <intelikey> i don't think i have that group
[07:38] <intelikey> hmmm ok i do have... it gid is 4    odd.
[07:38] <Jucato> adm  adm  Administrative special privileges
[07:38] <Jucato> according to http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/usernames.html
[07:38] <intelikey> Jucato but no one is in adm.
[07:38] <alakhia> !beryl
[07:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:39] <jeanmass> so my username should be in admin and adm?
[07:39] <intelikey> admin
[07:39] <Skuller> why does my kicker hate me so much that it kicks itself out (crashes) in front of me many times?
[07:39] <Jucato> except my user...
[07:39] <intelikey> Jucato did you add yourself to adm ?
[07:40] <Jucato> no. it's default
[07:40] <intelikey> feisty ?
[07:40] <Jucato> I can remember it in dapper as well
[07:40] <jeanmass> yes ot's default
[07:40] <jeanmass> so as i am changing my default user
[07:40] <jeanmass> should i put him in adm group?
[07:40] <intelikey> Jucato yeah dapper has adm group but didn't set any one in it by default
[07:41] <Jucato> intelikey: not even your own user? I mean the default user created belongs to that group
[07:41] <Jucato> iirc
[07:41] <intelikey> Jucato no
[07:41] <intelikey> it's empty
[07:42] <Jucato> what's the command again to check members of a particular group?
[07:42] <jeanmass> brb
[07:43] <intelikey> Jucato grep groupname /etc/group
[07:43] <Jucato> ah
[07:43] <Jucato> yep I'm there...
[07:43] <intelikey> hmmm   i fresh installed dapper last weak and i'm not there.     idk....
[07:44] <Jucato> "Table 21-2 is a table of optional mnemonic user and group names. This specification makes no attempt to numerically assign uid or gid numbers. If the username exists on a system, then they should be in the suggested corresponding group. These user and group names are for use by distributions, not by applications."
[07:44] <Jucato> optional anyway
[07:44] <intelikey> if you remember i "tried really really really hard to keep it all default"
[07:45] <Jucato> must have been a great sacrifice on your part. :)
[07:45] <intelikey> lasted three days before i broke *exploded* and started configuring things.    i thought i did real good...
[07:46] <Onewing> exit
[07:46] <Jucato> the only reason I keep "some" defaults is for user support...
[07:46] <intelikey> /exit
[07:46] <Onewing> thanx
[07:46] <intelikey> yeah that was my intent.   it didn't work.
[07:46] <Onewing> /exit
[07:46] <intelikey> Onewing lol
[07:47] <Jucato> Onewing: no space before /
[07:47] <Jucato> actually I thought it should be /quit...
[07:47] <Jucato> intelikey: next best thing would probably to use some virtualization voodoo
[07:47] <intelikey> if all else fails   sudo killall -9 "irc_client_name"
[07:47] <intelikey> Jucato yeah
[07:48] <intelikey> Jucato you know my philosophy on "default" anyway.    it's just a starting point on the long road to right.
[07:48] <Jucato> :)
[07:50] <intelikey> console has ruined me on that.   first thing i do is switch the desktop to plain black background
[07:51] <intelikey> but i used to do that in windows and get mad cause you couldn't remove the "my disputer" and "thrash" icons...    so maybe it wasn't the console that did it.....
[07:51] <firecrotc1> !quicktime
[07:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:51] <Jucato> :)
[07:55] <intelikey> what in the sam hill is   .rnd   in root's home ?
[07:55] <intelikey> it's a binary file....
[07:55] <KaoticEvil> i think the first thing most people do is customize the lookNfeel of their computer
[07:55] <intelikey> # file .rnd
[07:55] <intelikey> .rnd: data
[07:56] <Jucato> depends... some people don't even bother... specially if the defaults are... um... bearable
[07:56] <KaoticEvil> and doubly so with geeks
[07:56] <intelikey> lol
[07:56] <KaoticEvil> after i get my mission-critical apps installed, it's on to tweaking the lnf
[07:56] <KaoticEvil> O_O
[07:56] <KaoticEvil> dont do that :(
[07:57] <chuen> Hi. I've installed Sun Java, but when I check for the Java version I have installed I get that 1.4.2 Free version is installed.
[07:57] <chuen> What can I do about that?
[07:57] <intelikey> callen' us geeks...
[07:57] <Jucato> chuen: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:57] <chuen> jucato: Thanks, will try that.
[07:57] <KaoticEvil> heh
[08:02] <intelikey> KaoticEvil it can be done.   and it will super ruin a bios.
[08:04] <KaoticEvil> intelikey: im not sure i want to know how to do it in that case... i might be tempted :P
[08:05] <chuen> jucato: That simple command (config java) has saved me hours of grief! Thanks a lot :)
[08:05] <Skuller> did someone say ruiin a bios?...im in!
[08:05] <Jucato> chuen: you're welcome a lot :)
[08:05] <firecrotc1> Count me in on the BIOS-ruining action!
[08:06] <KaoticEvil> lol
[08:06] <Skuller> n we'll call ourselves the 'BIOS Screwer League'.....*trumpets/drums*
[08:07] <KaoticEvil> buncha twisted geeks at that lol
[08:07] <KaoticEvil> Skuller: why not BIOS Screwers Of Doom?.. B.S.O.D. for short :)
[08:07] <sonoftheclayr> lol
[08:07] <Skuller> lol
[08:08] <Skuller> KaoticEvil: good one...i'll file the petition right away..hope the name isnt taken
[08:08] <intelikey> Jucato you're supposed to quail !offtopic   at about that point....
[08:08] <Skuller> lol
[08:09] <Jucato> intelikey: sshhh :)
[08:09] <Skuller> sorriz guys.....continue with the helping each other part
[08:09] <Jucato> weren't you helping screw BIOS'es?
[08:09] <intelikey> Skuller atm we were only helping relieve stress...
[08:10] <intelikey> lol does good like dope
[08:10] <intelikey> to misquote the proverb
[08:11] <Skuller> cool...:)
[08:15] <intelikey> heh i have local lag time on my irc client of 4-6 seconds  but network is about 1 second ....
[08:26] <Skuller> what will happen if i  put alias vim=emacs in my /etc/profile?
[08:30] <Skuller> @lart Skuller for creating a solar powered torch
[08:30] <michael_> #ubuntu
[08:30] <NaNO2x> was wondering if there was anyone around who could help me install a driver, its for some quite unsuported hardware and there is a snv version but its not working well at getting installed
[08:31] <NaNO2x> https://sourceforge.net/projects/m560x-driver/ would be the driver
[08:31] <NaNO2x> if there is a better section to go id be appreciative for the direction
[08:37] <jamie> hello, do any of you know if hardware accelleration for my ATI Raedon x300 card is supported in Ubuntu?
[08:39] <unix_infidel> jamie: radeon accel is baddddly supported in linux in general.
[08:39] <unix_infidel> non 3d accel works perfectly fine.
[08:39] <david_> Howdy. How do I get the Lame encoder for Kubuntu? It's not part of apt-get.
[08:40] <jamie> ok... i was really talking about 3d
[08:40] <Lynoure> jamie: see http://www.google.com/search?q=+hardware+acceleration+x300+ubuntu if you have not
[08:40] <unix_infidel> !lame
[08:40] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[08:40] <unix_infidel> you werent looking hard enough