[19:04] <Bodsda> hcMyth, you can mount iso's from the terminal
[19:04] <RedWar> on Ubuntu Hardy?
[19:04] <Sekure> k
[19:04] <RequinB4> !eve
[19:05] <Bodsda> hcMyth, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[19:05] <hcMyth> Bodsda: thanks Ill have a look.
[19:05] <jmichelsen> tuxsudo: you need the dest on a drive/partition that will not be wiped out
[19:05] <robelliott2125> Never heard of eveonline RedWar, if its something that won't need a super pc, then i'd probably try it.
[19:05] <jmichelsen> tuxsudo: then you can just move the data to that partition, do your formatting, move the data back
[19:05] <tuxsudo> I got the idea, I just got a bunch of sensitive data
[19:06] <tuxsudo> dont wanna screw it up
[19:06] <jesus_9001> Ok I installed Xubuntu and everything went peachy. I updated it and restarted and it was all fine still. Then I installed the proprietary drivers for my ATi x1650 AGP card and it will not boot. The Loading Screen comes up but after that it doesn't go to the login screen. Anyone experience this before?
[19:06] <phaverkamp> I have a ftp mount in <home>/.gvfs And I need it disconnected any help would be awsome
[19:06] <shuttle> I just upgraded to 8.10 but the login and desktop make the screen go blank
[19:06] <shuttle> what can i do
[19:06] <jmichelsen> tuxsudo: best thing to do is put the data on an external drive or CD so there is no way to lose it
[19:06] <RedWar> Hmm... Ok, well thanks guys,.,, How about an alternive to Ventrillo for Linux, hear dof anything like that?
[19:07] <tuxsudo> too big tofit on cd, and no external source
[19:07] <POVaddct> shuttle: only released versions of ubuntu are supported here
[19:07] <shuttle> RedWar, i got vent to work
[19:07] <robelliott2125> Not me here RedWar, someone else should be able to help you though
[19:07] <Bodsda> shuttle, #ubuntu+1
[19:07] <jmichelsen> phaverkamp: type mount in terminal, then see where that ftp is mounted to and type umount /location
[19:07] <shuttle> POVaddct, but it will be supported....
[19:07] <POVaddct> shuttle: not yet
[19:07] <Bodsda> shuttle, not until release date
[19:07] <jmichelsen> RedWar: doesn't vent have linux installer package?
[19:08] <daemon3> Does anyone know how to stop Wanda from swimming around the desktop?
[19:08] <ikonia> daemon3: how did you start it ?
[19:08] <Admin1> Please, can someone explain the file structure of KMail? I am trying to understand how to export them into windows vista mail program. I have kmail set as mbox but do not see any .mbox file. Rather, I see files with .index  .ids  .sorted files
[19:08] <w0ls0n> a little OT but this page is off the hook
[19:08] <w0ls0n> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=FeedbackLeftForOthers&userid=tryork5ifp&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&page=1
[19:08] <jmichelsen> daemon3: lol
[19:08] <daemon3> ALT+F2..."free the fish"
[19:08] <phaverkamp> jmichelsen: The ftp connection is not there
[19:08] <daemon3> No quotes.
[19:08] <ikonia> daemon3: reboot
[19:08] <POVaddct> shuttle: 8.10 will be released in october. 08 for 2008, 10 for october
[19:09] <znh> how I can I force to keep bcm43xx, ssb, b43 and his whole **** family to NOT load at boot? blacklisting has no effect
[19:09] <Bodsda> w0ls0n, if its OT and you know that, why post it here
[19:09] <ikonia> Admin1: mbox is normally a directory in your home dir
[19:09] <jmichelsen> daemon3: kill fish in term
[19:09] <kat_aq> amenado, i need help! seaphor told me to contact you
[19:09] <ikonia> Admin1: mbox is not importable into microsoft mail products
[19:09] <vj> exit
[19:09] <Admin1> ikonia, but it can be converted with proper software
[19:09] <ikonia> Admin1: then if you "know" that - then you'll know what to look for
[19:10] <SeaPhor> kat_aq, just ask the full question and mention him, but there are plenty here that can help if they know what your issue is
[19:10] <Admin1> ikonia, the problem is rather that I do not find any .mbox directory.
[19:10] <ikonia> Admin1: it's not .mbox
[19:11] <Bodsda> Admin1, youve pressed ctrl+h to see hidden folders + files yes?
[19:11] <racle> How i get my subtitles work? i tryed watch couple movies, and subtitles wont work
[19:11] <Slade> in the gnome-look.org website, what is the Topaz-Brainstorm section for?
[19:11] <Decepticon> does pptpd on ubuntu makes default vpn connections limited by 12mbps?
[19:11] <ikonia> Admin1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbox
[19:11] <tuxsudo> weird, after the botched upgrade I cant "sudo", and I cant download the xorg-driver-fglrx
[19:12]  * Admin1 reading...
[19:12] <ikonia> tuxsudo: what error are you getting
[19:13] <aldroid> tuxsudo: for a single backup, you can use a script in http://paste.ubuntu.com/39462/. (tar/bzip2/unsecure ftp)
[19:13] <Sekure> There is no documentation that says what libraries you need for THC
[19:13] <tuxsudo> tux@none:~$ sudo apt-get
[19:13] <tuxsudo> sudo: unable to resolve host none
[19:13] <w0ls0n> ScheissDrogen, how do I mount the file system rw?
[19:13] <Sekure> fubar
[19:13] <ikonia> Sekure: it should be downloaded as a dependency
[19:13] <ikonia> tuxsudo: you need to put your machine hostname in /etc/hosts and map it to a resolvable ip address (<IP_ADDRESS> for example)
[19:13] <ikonia> tuxsudo: you'll need to do this in the recovery shell
[19:14] <tuxsudo> I can do gksu xterm
[19:14] <w0ls0n> nm
[19:14] <molgrum> hey, for the last 5 days or so my update manager has shown nothing but the -21 kernel updates (that i want to put on hold until a vbox driver is included). something wrong or is there an actual big pause right now in the updates?
[19:14] <ScheissDrogen> w0ls0n:man mount
[19:14] <ikonia> tuxsudo: well, if you can edit /etc/hsots, you'll be fine
[19:14] <tuxsudo> so just edit it to localhost
[19:14] <ikonia> tuxsudo: no
[19:14] <tuxsudo> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[19:14] <ikonia> tuxsudo: put your laptop hostname in and map it to a resolvable ip address, eg: <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:15] <ikonia> tuxsudo: machine hostname, sorry, not laptop
[19:15] <ikonia> tuxsudo: I was assuming a laptop for no reason
[19:15] <tuxsudo> damn I feel dumb, how do I map it to the addy, or does it matter
[19:15] <w0ls0n> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[19:15] <w0ls0n> hmmm
[19:15] <w0ls0n> I just tried replacing the r with w
[19:15] <ikonia> tuxsudo: look in the /etc/hosts file for an example $IP $HOST
[19:16] <aldroid> tuxsudo: what's `uname -n`?
[19:16] <tuxsudo> k I just gksu nautilus'
[19:16] <ikonia> tuxsudo: no
[19:16] <ikonia> tuxsudo: edit /etc/hosts
[19:16] <ikonia> tuxsudo: with a text editor
[19:16] <tuxsudo> none
[19:16] <ikonia> tuxsudo: what do you mean "none"
[19:16] <ikonia> tuxsudo: uname -n shows "none" ?
[19:17] <nikhil> hi
[19:17] <tuxsudo> yeah
[19:17] <w0ls0n> ScheissDrogen, I can't figure it out
[19:17] <Lukstr> Is there a way to make Ubuntu's wireless managment /not/ store wifi networks? I'm having issues and would rather not cache details of previously used wifi networks
[19:17] <ikonia> tuxsudo: if your hostname is "none" then you've not got a hostname set
[19:17] <w0ls0n> tried rw and just w and bad filesystem everytime
[19:17] <nikhil> is there any expert in ubuntu in here>?
[19:17] <Gillpy> nikhil: none
[19:17] <jmichelsen> !anyone | nikhil
[19:18] <Gillpy> !ask | nikhil
[19:18] <aldroid> w0ls0n: that's, ro with wo? replace ro with rw
[19:18] <tuxsudo> my hosts file is just a bunch of IPv6 addresses
[19:18] <ikonia> tuxsudo: your install/upgrade is borked
[19:18] <aldroid> w0ls0n: didn't see the post above, sorry
[19:18] <ikonia> tuxsudo: I suggest you re-install
[19:18] <nikhil> yooohoooo
[19:18] <tuxsudo> I have many times :P
[19:18] <ikonia> nikhil: ask the question
[19:19] <ikonia> tuxsudo: re-install
[19:19] <aldroid> tuxsudo: could you paste the /etc/hosts?
[19:19] <tuxsudo> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[19:19] <tuxsudo> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[19:19] <tuxsudo> # (added automatically by netbase upgrade)
[19:19] <tuxsudo> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[19:19] <tuxsudo> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[19:19] <FloodBot1> tuxsudo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:19] <tuxsudo> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[19:19] <tuxsudo> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[19:19] <tuxsudo> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[19:19] <tuxsudo> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[19:19] <w0ls0n> maybe I'll just mount the drive, copy the data over
[19:19] <jmichelsen> !paste | tuxsudo
[19:20] <w0ls0n> and re-fdisk it
[19:20] <tuxsudo> did you get that :P
[19:21] <cwill747> !ndiswrapper
[19:21] <aldroid> tuxsudo: prepend to /etc/hosts:
[19:21] <aldroid> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost <whatever `uname -n` gives>
[19:21] <Pravus_> :o
[19:21] <ikonia> aldroid: his hostname is "none" because his upgrade has failed
[19:21] <ikonia> aldroid: hence why I said "re-install"
[19:21] <ikonia> as I suspect a lot more is not set
[19:22] <tuxsudo> xserver is screwed too
[19:22] <ikonia> tuxsudo: I suggest you re-install
[19:23] <frybye> how can I move the menu back to the top of the screen - it has ended up at the side of the screen where i don't want it..
[19:23] <nikhil> sorry, does kde installed alongside ubuntu 8.04 stable?  Recently installed KDE 4.1, and any KDE application starts crashing?  i had kde 3 installed and did a clean uninstall before KDE4.  Plz help
[19:23] <tuxsudo> sweet. thanks sudo works again!!!!
[19:23] <kaivar> hello... i was hoping to get some help installing java 6 on ubuntu 8.04 ^_^
[19:23] <rr> same as windows, you need to find a empty spot
[19:23] <Gnea> frybye: middle click 'n drag
[19:24] <tuxsudo> now I gotta fix my xserver and ati driver and I wont have t spend another 2hrs upgrading again
[19:24] <frybye> how do you mean middle click??
[19:24] <aldroid> ikonia: tuxsudo: xserver is screwed because it uses loopback connections.
[19:24] <Gnea> frybye: most mice, these days, have a left click, a right click, and a middle click buttons
[19:24] <rr> scrollwheel
[19:24] <ikonia> aldroid: his install is screwed
[19:25] <frybye> no mouse here .. on a eeepc..
[19:25] <Gnea> frybye: oh, left+right = middle then
[19:25] <lint> can someone help me? i seem to be having trouble playing multimedia files on my computer
[19:25] <tuxsudo> 35 new updates just popped up
[19:25] <znh> Hello
[19:25] <frybye> ok..
[19:25] <n3hima> frybye, eee 900+: tap the touchpad with two fingers
[19:26] <znh> my wireless card doesn't work with ndiswrapper. It says " device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)"  how can I get rid of that alternate driver?
[19:26] <jmichelsen> !mp3 | Lin
[19:26] <frybye> 701
[19:26] <rathel> I'm on Hardy, how do you change the color of the prompt in the console? I'm looking through .bashrc but I don't know what to change. It looks a little different from Gutsy.
[19:26] <jmichelsen> !mp3 | lint
[19:26] <frybye> left and right together not possible...
[19:26] <Sekure> whats an easy way to drag and drop files to a directory without permission?
[19:26] <Sekure> hold shift or something
[19:26] <jmichelsen> frybye: left and right click at the same time does emulate a third mouse button
[19:27] <frybye> at home I have a 3 key mouse - i will do it there...
[19:27] <Gnea> Sekure: control.
[19:27] <n3hima> frybye, try what I said earlier, it may work
[19:27] <sk33t0r>  if I see this: Read 1903 packets (got 27 ARP requests and 0 ACKs), sent 17768 packets...(499 pp/s) in aireplay does that mean my packet injection is working properly
[19:27] <znh> sk33t0r, yes
[19:27] <sk33t0r> znh, why is the number of packets read so small if Im sending such a large amount of packets?
[19:28] <Sekure> ctrl isnt working
[19:28] <znh> sk33t0r, cuz the packets read are not so important. you need airodump to capture
[19:28] <frybye> n3hima: this is not a 900/901 no multi-touch..
[19:28] <Gnea> Sekure: then you don't have permission
[19:28] <n3hima> frybye, idk then
[19:28] <Sekure> there should be an option to "run as user" when it errors out
[19:29] <fevel> hey
[19:29] <n3hima> sk33t0r, you may need to be closer to the access point
[19:29] <Sekure> it didnt prompt me for password
[19:29] <Gnea> Sekure: yeah, it's not gonna do that if it's a vague slide
[19:29] <Gillpy> !hey | fevel
[19:29] <sk33t0r> n3hima, Im not that far away from it its right downstairs
[19:29] <Sekure> im gonna program it in there
[19:30] <Gnea> have fun
[19:30] <znh> can someone help me?
[19:30] <Gnea> !ask | znh
[19:30] <znh> my wireless card doesn't work with ndiswrapper. It says " device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)"  how can I get rid of that alternate driver?
[19:30] <ra21vi> i have strange problem with WUBI installed Ubuntu. in bash, when I do ./eclipse (i unpacked latest eclipse 3.4) , the bash says bash: ./eclipse: No such file or directory,
[19:30] <znh> Gnea, there
[19:30] <Sekure> if errorlevel == "permission denied" runas (); or some shizit like that
[19:30] <ra21vi> i did ldd eclipse adn found it is static executable
[19:30] <Gnea> !devel | Sekure
[19:30] <peppe__> ciao raga
[19:30] <Surlent> I just have a quick partitioning question: I have Ubuntu 8.04 and Windows XP SP3 on a dual-boot set-up, Ubuntu installed first. Both systems are working fine, but I would like to increase the WIndows partition from 20 to 50 gigabytes, since I need to install a few things for a LAN party. Can I do this successfully and safely with the 8.04 CD and GParted?
[19:31] <Gnea> !dev | Sekure
[19:31] <nikhil> sorry, does kde installed alongside ubuntu 8.04 stable?  Recently installed KDE 4.1, and any KDE application starts crashing?  i had kde 3 installed and did a clean uninstall before KDE4.  Plz help
[19:31] <Gnea> znh: is it usb?
[19:31] <znh> Gnea, nope, PCI
[19:31] <Sekure> i cant just change some code and re-compile the kernel
[19:31] <avis> has a fix been released for the flash plugin in hardy to not make firefox crash ?
[19:31] <ikonia> nikhil: kde 3/4 is available for ubuntu 8.04
[19:31] <aldroid> ikonia: tuxsudo: I'm so persistent because I've got sudo: could not resolve host <thename> simply by setting the domain name in NetworkManagerApplet, I thought this was that sort of problem
[19:31] <ikonia> oops
[19:31] <Gnea> znh: then you need to prevent the bcm driver from loading by blacklisting it
[19:31] <Gnea> !blacklist | znh
[19:31] <ikonia> aldroid: thats fine, I understand that situation, but he's got no hostname
[19:31] <jmichelsen> frybye:  do you have a mouse wheel
[19:32] <mattgyver83> Does anyone here have issues with Firefox 3 in ubuntu.  It always crashes and hangs on me, I ran under safe mode and its still happens, so nothing to do with addons.??
[19:32] <tuxsudo> well I get this error now when I apt-get
[19:32] <ikonia> mattgyver83: addons still work in safe move
[19:32] <znh> Gnea, I did the blacklisting in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, but it still gets loaded
[19:32] <ikonia> mattgyver83: remove all plugins
[19:32] <nikhil> is kde 4 different for ubuntu and kubuntu?
[19:32] <tuxsudo> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[19:32] <tuxsudo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[19:32] <Sekure> i can feel an ulcer burning through my stomach.. I have had enough computer for one day
[19:32] <ikonia> nikhil: no
[19:32] <ra21vi> Surlent: probably you shoudl backup Ubuntu and then delete/expand from windows tool and then reinstall/set ubuntu again
[19:32] <ikonia> nikhil: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[19:32] <arrrghhh> nikhil, ubuntu uses gnome as its default WM
[19:32] <Surlent> mattgyver83: I find Opera to generally be a more stable alternative to firefox; you may want to try that. Don't use the repo version though, get it from their website (the new version fixes a lot of bugs)
[19:32] <Sekure> peace (Y)
[19:33] <Surlent> ra21vi: What is "windows tool"?
[19:33] <ra21vi> opera is great, but overall Firefox is better,
[19:33] <Surlent> how so, do you think?
[19:33] <dingoyoko> Hi, I'm setting up a fileserver with SMB to share with both XP and Ubuntu machines. Do I have to format as NTFS?
[19:34] <ikonia> dingoyoko: no
[19:34] <ra21vi> Surlent: google for it, not sure but you can use Windwos partition manager, and many others like Acronis is available
[19:34] <nikhil> i have ubuntu 8.04, and have a live cd of kubuntu with KDE 4.1 remix version.  Can i install this alongside ubuntu using my CD without downloading any KDE files>
[19:34] <nikhil> ?
[19:34] <tuxsudo> bbl
[19:34] <ikonia> dingoyoko: a linux native sfile system such as ext3 would be better
[19:34] <aldroid> dingoyoko: no, you can xfs or jfs or ext3 or whatever
[19:34] <Gnea> znh: then you need to reboot
[19:34] <znh> Gnea, no effect
[19:34] <ra21vi> i did ldd eclipse adn found it is static executable
[19:34] <ikonia> nikhil: if the repo files are on the cd - yes, if not, no
[19:34] <dingoyoko> so I can read and write to ext3 from XP just fine?
[19:34] <ra21vi> i have strange problem with WUBI installed Ubuntu. in bash, when I do ./eclipse (i unpacked latest eclipse 3.4) , the bash says bash: ./eclipse: No such file or directory,
[19:34] <Gnea> znh: i need to afk, someone else might be able to help..
[19:35] <ikonia> ra21vi: linked against the wrong libraries
[19:35] <ikonia> ra21vi: install eclipse from the ubuntu repo's
[19:35] <znh> Gnea, k
[19:35] <nikhil> what is repo file?  Whatever it is, doesnt it come with Live CD?
[19:35] <aldroid> dingoyoko: it's not ext3 for Windows machines, it's SMB file access :)
[19:35] <ikonia> nikhil: depends, you've got a non-standard ubuntu cd
[19:35] <dingoyoko> thanks ikonia and aldroid :-)
[19:35] <ra21vi> ikonia: perhaps 3.4 is not available in repo
[19:35] <znh> anyone can help me with this issue? I can't seem to get rid of bcm43xx, b44, ssb and b43. They conflict my ndiswrapper
[19:35] <ikonia> ra21vi: have a look
[19:35] <Surlent> ra21vi: So you're saying that resizing it with GParted is impossible to do, or do safely?
[19:36] <ra21vi> ikonia: that eclipe is working with another ubuntu in other machine without any problem
[19:37] <dingoyoko> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver <-- this link said I had to format as NTFS
[19:37] <ikonia> ra21vi: check the permissions of the executable, but other than that it will be linked against the wrong libraries, or libraries you don't have on this system
[19:37] <ikonia> dingoyoko: thats wrong
[19:37] <ra21vi> ikonia: i did chmod +x many times :))
[19:37] <ikonia> ra21vi: then the libraries it's linked against are wrong/not on your system
[19:37] <ra21vi> ikonia: ldd eclipse shows it is static, not shared lib needed
[19:37] <nikhil> this is foxing, ikonia, whatz a standard and a non-standard ubuntu cd?
[19:37] <ikonia> ra21vi: static is still linked against specific livraries
[19:37] <Avi_IRC> what is super user
[19:38] <ikonia> Avi_IRC: root
[19:38] <ikonia> nikhil: an ubuntu CD is an "official one"
[19:38] <Surlent> Avi_IRC: Super user is root, and he is all-powerful
[19:38] <ra21vi> ikonia: but the same error message comes out when we do ./someprog and that is not executable
[19:38] <ikonia> nikhil: you said you'd got a "remix" one
[19:38] <ikonia> ra21vi: so ?
[19:38] <nikhil> yep
[19:38] <znh> anyone can help me with this issue? I can't seem to get rid of bcm43xx, b44, ssb and b43. They conflict my ndiswrapper
[19:38] <Gillpy> !root > Avi_IRC
[19:38] <ikonia> nikhil: so thats the different
[19:38] <nikhil> oh, ok
[19:38] <ra21vi> ikonia: i think something bad with my bash,  byt other things are working great, even in bash...
[19:38] <aldroid> dingoyoko: if you format your Samba share as NTFS, you'll have trouble with NTFS ACLs users set on their machines. Though you can use POSIX ACL-capable FS and bridge NT ACLs to them. Samba has no native treatment of NTFS.
[19:38] <ikonia> ra21vi: I think it's nothing to do with bash
[19:39] <ikonia> ra21vi: shells don't matter to an executable
[19:39] <tuxsudo> so If I just back up my home folder, wll I lose a lot of my programs, and program settings?
[19:39] <jmichelsen> !ntfs
[19:39] <ra21vi> ikonia: then I think i am in great trouble
[19:39] <jmichelsen> tuxsudo: yes
[19:39] <Surlent> ra21vi: So you're saying that resizing it with GParted is impossible to do, or do safely?
[19:39] <ikonia> ra21vi: no, I think your just linked against libraries that are wrong or not on your system, nothing more
[19:39] <tuxsudo> I wish there was a way around that
[19:40] <aldroid> tuxsudo: not all settings, but systemwide ones. GConf and such will remain.
[19:40] <Avi_IRC> i am trying to install ati driver and it tells me i need to be a super user to install it
[19:40] <aldroid> tuxsudo: simply because they're stored in your home folder.
[19:40] <tuxsudo> took me for ever to set up kismet.conf
[19:40] <lazyPower> Avi_IRC: use sudo
[19:40] <ra21vi> ikonia: ok, i will check it tomorrow, since the system is in my office.
[19:40] <Gillpy> !sudo > Avi_IRC
[19:40] <ikonia> Avi_IRC: why not use the driver in ubuntus restricted driver manager
[19:40] <Surlent> Avi: Run the program as gksudo if graphical, or sudo if text-based
[19:40] <jmichelsen> tuxsudo: there are many ways to backup things, see http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-get-list-installed-software-reinstallation-restore.html for progrem reinstallation
[19:40] <nikhil> however, i have downloaded files for installing KDE 4.1, but many KDE applications crash.  Some error relating to KDE file manager and Plasma
[19:41] <j800r> hey guys, if i've removed one of my gnome panels to theme my system, how do i get it back. do i just have to create a totally new one? :\
[19:41] <ikonia> nikhil: why download them
[19:41] <lazyPower> Anybody here use a ghost-like app they would recommend?
[19:41] <ikonia> nikhil: just download from the repo's using the package manager
[19:41] <Surlent> j800r: I think you'll have to manually re-create it
[19:41] <phaverkamp> I have seahorse problem,  I have a gvfs ftp connection taht does not appear in seahorse. Any clue?
[19:41] <Avi_IRC> lazyPower: how do i execute this file "ati-driver-installer-8-8-x86.x86_64.run"
[19:41] <Surlent> it's not hard, though
[19:41] <j800r> ya, i know
[19:41] <lazyPower> Avi_IRC: sudo sh ati-driver-installer-fooblef.run
[19:41] <tuxsudo> but if I back up /etc im screwed too
[19:41] <ikonia> nikhil: nikhil sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[19:41] <kaivar> hi, i tried installing java using sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre but when i tried to verify them on the java site, it says it wasn't installed
[19:41] <j800r> i themed my system to look like vista aero for a laugh. fed up with it now though lol
[19:42] <ikonia> Avi_IRC: use the drivers in ubuntus restricted driver manager
[19:42] <Surlent> j800r: I think everyone's done that at least once :P
[19:42] <lazyPower> Avi_IRC: you are asking for help with an unsupported driver though. Ikonia has the right idea using the restricted driver manager.
[19:42] <j800r> Surlent,  easier to compare that way ;)
[19:42] <nikhil> ikonia, i used this command as per some post in ubuntu forum
[19:42] <ra21vi> Surlent: resize by Gparted is possible for NTFS partition, but I would say that you go the safe way. Or maybe you can do it and let us know if something bad happens, that way other knows how to do it
[19:42] <ikonia> nikhil: use the command I just gave you
[19:43] <habernet> is kiba-dock not in ubuntu repositories?
[19:43] <j800r> habernet,  have you tried avant window manager?
[19:43] <lazyPower> habernet: Avant Window Navigator performs well...
[19:44] <nikhil> yep, i will see this works?  Thnx Ikonia, people like you encourage people like me to go for the kill
[19:44] <j800r> avant is fantastic, and you can install it through add/remove programs
[19:44] <habernet> thanks gusy
[19:44] <ikonia> nikhil: your welcome
[19:44] <Surlent> ra21vi: All I know is that I used GParted to create the partition in the first place, and it didn't bother Linux at all, and Windows runs fine save for the fact that my hard drive is labeled F: instead of C:. I can't think of any reason anything would mess up, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
[19:45] <j800r> only thing i truely hate about ubuntu is that mic support is awful, and it's very hard to get skype to work :|
[19:45] <lazyPower> j800r: worked great for me in hardy righto ut of the box
[19:45] <frybye> hi - I am using a 7" screen on an eeepc and somhow the menu bar has moved from top to side of the screen and is so squeezed together that it is hardly useable - the middle key produces a hand cursor but this does not let me pull the menu bar back to the top.. is there a way on the konsole to restore the default setting or similar..?
[19:45] <lazyPower> j800r: are using alsa?
[19:45] <habernet> brb lets see if awn will work on startup now tha i added to sesions
[19:45] <j800r> lazyPower,  ya, i think so
[19:46] <lazyPower> j800r: :| Thats sucky man
[19:46] <ikonia> frybye: you have to drag it with a left click
[19:46] <ikonia> frybye: but you have to do it on an "empty" spot
[19:46] <j800r> i tried a fix on the forums, pulseaudio like, but it didn't help
[19:46] <ikonia> frybye: it can take a while if your menu is full
[19:46] <lazyPower> j800r: afk for a few man, phone.
[19:46] <j800r> nw bro
[19:46] <robelliott2125> Anyone know how / what causes Hotmail to tell me to update when using FF3?
[19:47] <Surlent> j800r: The only thing I hate about Linux is the lack of game support. Wine can only go so far, and seems to purposely decrease compatability with GZDoom with every release =( (Hence my dual-booting)
[19:47] <ikonia> robelliott2125: hostmail tells you to update what ?
[19:47] <frybye> ikonia - there is no unused space on the squeezed togeter menu to grab hold of it..?
[19:47] <ikonia> frybye: there is, you've just got to mess around with it
[19:47] <ikonia> frybye: there is "always" a spot on it, just hard to find if your menu is full
[19:47] <robelliott2125> Sorry ikonia, Hotmail tells me to update my browser when logging in, but i'm using FF3.
[19:47] <ikonia> robelliott2125: hot mail has no interest in your browser
[19:48] <aldroid> robelliott2125: it wants IE7 :)
[19:48] <Surlent> of course, it's Microsoft's own crap, isn't it?
[19:48] <j800r> Surlent,  ya, that's a problem with me too. i used to play ragnarok a lot on a private server but i can't now. wine is ok, but i find it to make ubuntu sluggish
[19:48] <robelliott2125> Yeah, I know its MS Crap, but its MS Crap which I used before switching to Linux
[19:48] <Gillpy> robelliott2125: switch to gmail
[19:48] <frybye> ikonia: bare in mind that the side edge of this screen is only about 4+" long.. the menu is v e r y squeezed together...
[19:48] <ASULutzy> Surlent, j800r  Eh, I can run TF2, HL2, and other Steam games on Wine, I'd say that's pretty impressive.
[19:48] <Surlent> Get Gmail :P
[19:48] <sirukin>  /part #ubtunu
[19:48] <rr> me 800*600 screenres, squeezed on side
[19:48] <sirukin> ack
[19:48] <ikonia> Gillpy: thats not an answer
[19:48] <robelliott2125> Gillpy, not a productive answer
[19:48] <j800r> ASULutzy,  ahh, but i'm an rpg fan
[19:49] <Joker_-_> robelliott2125: have you tryed with geko?
[19:49] <ASULutzy> j800r, It runs WoW too ;)
[19:49] <Surlent> ASULutzy: I can almost make Supreme Commander work, it just lags on the graphics pretty bad for some reason, and I get no sound
[19:49] <porkchop> i have a laptop with windows xp.  i want to install ubuntu.  with 8.04 you can 'install inside windows'    whats the best option:  install inside windows, or partition my hard drive and make it its own partition
[19:49] <j800r> but you need more powerful hardware than with windows
[19:49] <ikonia> robelliott2125: there is nothing wrong with hotmail - and hotmail doesn't care about what browser your using, I suspect it's a plugin your using thats incompatible with hotmail
[19:49] <monster> Hey guys, I've got a problem with firefox
[19:49] <Joker_-_> robelliott2125: like, try launching wine with the adress (hotmail.com)
[19:49] <carandraug> robelliott2125: in that window you can choose to open it anyway if your "old" browser that it will work just fine
[19:49] <aldroid> robelliot2125: I don't know that about FF3, but opera can mask itself as IE<whatever-version>
[19:49] <ZeroA4> robelliott2125, get an firefox extension that changes your user agent and hotmail will think you have whatever you want!
[19:49] <jokkaa> Could anyone help me getting flash player 6 installed?
[19:49] <ikonia> robelliott2125: I am using hotmail %100 fine with firefox 3 on hardy
[19:49] <Surlent> porkchop: I personally have had nothing but trouble with the WUBI install inside windows bit
[19:49] <monster> it tries to save .php files instead of rendering them
[19:49] <ASULutzy> porkchop, I don't think anyone here will suggest you use Wubi. I would absolutely suggest setting up a proper dual-boot
[19:49] <tuxsudo> jmichelsen, what is the best way to make a small seperate partion with parted?
[19:49] <frybye> ikonia: good - i managed it .. bit of a mess now but will manage.. thanks..
[19:49] <ikonia> monster: install the php5 package on your webserver
[19:49] <porkchop> ok, sounds good
[19:49] <aldroid> Joker_-_: robelliot2125: It'll still use Gecko
[19:49] <ikonia> frybye: well done
[19:50] <robelliott2125> ikonia, i've got the same addon's which I used when using Gutsy, which is Noscript and Adblock Plus, Noscript is allowing Hotmail and the rest of its crap, but still having the same prob
[19:50] <monster> ikonia: it's not MY server that's fucking up :/
[19:50] <porkchop> ill use gparted to partition my hard drive.  any suggestions before i do that?
[19:50] <tuxsudo> nothing is working, just errors
[19:50] <ASULutzy> !language | monster
[19:50] <monster> so it's not a bug in ff?
[19:50] <robelliott2125> Is that using the full version ikonia?
[19:50] <ikonia> monster: watch your language
[19:50] <monster> sorry
[19:50] <Surlent> porkchop: Backups
[19:50] <Joker_-_> aldroid: ?
[19:50] <monster> so it's not a bug in ff?
[19:50] <ikonia> monster: no - it will be their server
[19:50] <monster> mh
[19:50] <monster> that's odd
[19:50] <Surlent> porkchop: And don't chicken out at the end. I did that, and it screwed up everything =(
[19:50] <monster> is it a mime-thing?
[19:50] <frybye> ikonia: too soon - it is the bottom task bar that is up there now .. oh jeez - one thing after the other.. my neighbour is perhaps right - the eeepc just is toooo small...
[19:50] <Gillpy> robelliott2125: user agent switcher ?
[19:50] <ASULutzy> porkchop, Suggestions? Make sure you do it right, don't explode your already existing partitions if there is important data there
[19:50] <ikonia> monster: normally an extenions issue on the websesrver
[19:51] <carandraug> robelliott2125: is the problem you have with firefox inhotmails says saying "If you don’t want to upgrade right now you can still continue to Windows Live Hotmail, but some parts of it may not work and it may not be displayed properly." ?
[19:51] <porkchop> ive heard to defrag windows first, is that a good idea?
[19:51] <jmichelsen> tuxsudo: http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted
[19:51] <monster> hm. i see. thanks so far ikonia
[19:51] <aldroid> Joker_-_: AFAIK Wine uses Gecko for MSHTML OLE elements
[19:51] <Surlent> porkchop: It couldn't hurt
[19:51] <Gnea> monster: you should email them and let them know
[19:51] <Gnea> oop
[19:51] <tuxsudo> I cant download gparted :P
[19:51] <Surlent> heh
[19:51] <ikonia> tuxsudo: sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:51] <j800r> tuxsudo,  it's on the ubuntu live cd
[19:51] <lazyPower> j800r: Ive run into more issues with pulse audio man. I'm all about alsa
[19:51] <tuxsudo> I have
[19:51] <ikonia> j800r: it's not
[19:51] <ikonia> tuxsudo: and what does it say
[19:51] <Joker_-_> aldroid: I know, thats what I told him to do :P
[19:51] <Gillpy> robelliott2125: the firefox plugin*   it works fine when you select IE7 on vista
[19:52] <robelliott2125> Gillpy, I shouldn't need to use a UA Switcher.  I'm a proud FF user, and shouldn't have to "cloak" as an IE or other browser.  It worked fine in FF2 on Gutsy
[19:52] <j800r> ikonia,  er, yes it is, i've used it
[19:52] <ikonia> j800r: you normally have to install it
[19:52] <tuxsudo> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[19:52] <tuxsudo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[19:52] <ikonia> robelliott2125: you don't - it will be a plugin
[19:52] <j800r> not if you boot the live cd
[19:52] <robelliott2125> Yes carandraug.
[19:52] <aldroid> robelliot2125: looks like they've changed Hotmail
[19:52] <ikonia> tuxsudo: sudo apt-get update first
[19:52] <frybye> ikonia: now.. I have it .. right on the extreem end of the thing was a spot to grab it..
[19:52] <ikonia> aldroid: I'm using it with FF3 - no problem
[19:52] <j800r> it has it on there already cause it uses it for installing ubuntu
[19:53] <tuxsudo> same error
[19:53] <ikonia> tuxsudo: ls -la /var/lig/dpkg
[19:53] <carandraug> robelliott2125: in that text, just press "continue to Windows Live Hotmail,". It works just fine
[19:53] <ikonia> tuxsudo: (put the output in a pastebin)
[19:53] <robelliott2125> Ok, lets change this then...  FF3 on Winblows works fine, as I've just asked my partner to try.
[19:53] <robelliott2125> Yes i know carandraug, but i want to use the Full Version
[19:53] <balz> I'm trying to share a music directory via mt-daapd:  Itunes can connect to the share, but mt-daapd is not serving any music.  I tried doing several full scans and checking mt-daapd.  I don't know where to go from here, any suggestions?
[19:53] <ikonia> robelliott2125: I suspect its a plugin issue
[19:53] <tuxsudo> ls: cannot access /var/lig/dpkg: No such file or directory
[19:53] <ikonia> tuxsudo: your install is dead
[19:54] <robelliott2125> Again ikonia, Noscript and Adblock Plus, both used on FF2, and no problem.
[19:54] <ikonia> tuxsudo: re-install
[19:54] <jmichelsen> tuxsudo: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:54] <Gnea> tuxsudo: /var/lib, not /var/lig
[19:54] <ikonia> tuxsudo: I've said this about 4 times
[19:54] <j800r> robelliott2125,  get gmail or use a pop account
[19:54] <lazyPower> robelliott2125: Hotmail works just fine on a stock FF3 buddy. I just logged in
[19:54] <carandraug> robelliott2125: I didn't knew there was a "full" version. What's the difference by the way?
[19:54] <ikonia> Gnea: ahhhh good spot
[19:54] <robelliott2125> Very productive answer j800r.
[19:54] <jmichelsen> ikonia: his first question was about backing up data, can't reintstall without backuing up
[19:54] <tuxsudo> thanks Gnea
[19:54] <robelliott2125> carandraug, the full allows you to drag and drop emails, view emails easily etc.
[19:54] <j800r> robelliott2125,  your not gonna get the full version of hotmail on any linux browser
[19:54] <ikonia> jmichelsen: he didn't backup before he updated ?
[19:55] <jmichelsen> ikonia: nope ;)
[19:55] <robelliott2125> You can and I have j800r.
[19:55] <nikhil> yep just installed KDE4 using apt-get code, Better than last time i installed KDE4.  Now on login, "Plasma Workspace error" is displayed.  What does this mean?
[19:55] <j800r> hmmm
[19:55] <jmichelsen> ikonia: and he has no external media, he's trying to gpart his hdd to make backup location
[19:55] <robelliott2125> lazyPower, thanks bud, i'll check my end again
[19:55] <Pici> nikhil: Please ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[19:55] <j800r> well hotmail is from the enemy..i'd sooner not waste my breath on it
[19:55] <j800r> microsoft suck
[19:55] <tuxsudo> http://pastebin.com/d76561000
[19:56] <robelliott2125> You have done though j800r.
[19:56] <j800r> robelliott2125,  no, i suggested alternatives :P
[19:56] <FSX> Hey, can someone help me? My videos play very slow.
[19:56] <Gillpy> robelliott2125: best place ot ask is #firefo
[19:56] <jmichelsen> !ask | FSX
[19:56] <Gillpy> *x
[19:56] <robelliott2125> Thanks Gillpy
[19:57] <j800r> yo, this ain't a support question, jus want an opinion. has anyone tried cent os before?
[19:57] <cuil> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[19:57] <cuil> how to do??
[19:58] <cuil> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[19:58] <FSX> I have a laptop with an ATI card and my videos play very slow. I have installed the restricted driver.
[19:58] <tuxsudo> ikonia, did you see my paste bin
[19:58] <xintron> I'm running fluxbox as wm and it's great, except one thing :/ My iPod won't load in rhythmbox. When I switch to my gnome-session it works fine but not using fluxbox (it connects without problem, but not listed in rhythmbox). How do I solve this? Or is there another good music manager that I can use with iPod support (playing from the iPod) and last.fm scrobble?
[19:58] <j800r> cuil,  how to report it? i think there's a bug report link on the ubuntu sight :\
[19:58] <lazyPower> xintron: im using Exale media player, and i beleive it has support for what your wanting.
[19:58] <mralexandro> my adobe flash player 9 streams video very poorly? is this a normal case with a 8400m gs nvidia card?
[19:59] <mralexandro> i can ensure it is not internet speed
[19:59] <xintron> lazyPower: is it lightweight? I used moc and it works, but after playing a few songs moc hangs and looses contact with the iPod and I have to kill moc (works when playing files on the computer)
[19:59] <roger_padactor> hello trying to make a launcher for rdesktop but when i put rdesktop ipaddy nothing happens when i try it in the terminal it works.
[19:59] <j800r> does anyone else experience browser crashes on ff when playing a video (normally flash)
[20:00] <lazyPower> xintron: i dont have an ipod to test for you :| Best i can say is apt-get it and try it. I've been using it for about a week now with no real issues.
[20:00] <aldroid> tuxsudo: try sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/available-old /var/lib/dpkg/available
[20:01] <aldroid> tuxsudo: really something has screwed up your system...
[20:01] <sebrock_> how do I automount a CD/DVD on boot?
[20:01] <tuxsudo> worked
[20:01] <aldroid> tuxsudo: then sudo apt-get update
[20:01] <tuxsudo> well it is reading database.......
[20:02] <tuxsudo> working very slowly....after I make a partiton I am gonna back up and fresh install fo sure
[20:02] <RemsSs> hi! everybody
[20:02] <aldroid> tuxsudo: can it install something?
[20:02] <tuxsudo> yes
[20:04] <tuxsudo> wonder why I had to rename the dpkg folder? Is it in the correct one now? or is it just a workaround for now?
[20:04] <Gillpy> sebrock_: try adding to /etc/fstab :
[20:04] <Gillpy> /dev/path/to/drive  /path/to/mount/point  udf,iso9660 user,auto   0   0
[20:04] <balz> anybody know why mt-daapd isn't serving files even after doing multiple scans of the music directory?
[20:05] <balz> I can provide mt-daapd.conf if needed
[20:05] <nikhil> hi
[20:05] <robelliott2125> Well my problem is now solved properly.  about:config - then the string general.useragent.vendor needs to be set to blank, and it works in full mode.
[20:05] <tuxsudo> brb restart
[20:05] <sebrock_> Gillpy I have that line except "noauto" so thats the clue I guess...
[20:05] <aldroid> tuxsudo: I don't know how apt-get works, but I have /var/lib/dpkg/available and you have /var/lib/dpkg/available-old, looks it's some sort of database for dpkg...
[20:07] <RequinB4> !hi | nikhil
[20:08] <tzd> does anyone know which type intel atom processors are part of please? I mean is it included to the x86, Pentium etc. models or is it "Intel computers" ?
[20:09] <kenny__> I don't think you can go wrong with x86
[20:09] <jmichelsen> tzd: x86 will work fine
[20:09] <jordo2323_> I have a server which people connect through via telnet. I am looking for a way to kick everyone off at night so a backup job can run. I think this can probably be done through cron. Anyone?
[20:10] <tzd> jmichelsen: ah you again... i should have you on speed dial ;P Thanks once again mate! :)
[20:10] <carandraug> robelliott2125: so, hotmail defines whether it works in full version according to the OS and not the browser?
[20:10] <aldroid> does anyone know how to get a ZC0301P-based webcam to work?
[20:10] <jmichelsen> tzd:  lol
[20:10] <nemo> Why is it I can't find nm-applet under the list of applets to add to a panel?
[20:10] <Aldeen> YES !
[20:10] <jmichelsen> tzd: installing xubuntu now?
[20:10] <dpick> is it possible to have bind multiple commands to a keyboard shortcut, i tried with && and it didn't work?
[20:11] <aldroid> dpick: try shell scripts
[20:11] <Aldeen> That's terrible
[20:11] <dpick> aldroid: no luck
[20:11] <robelliott2125> carandraug, the "general.useragent.vendor" string value was Firefox.  Remove it, and it works.  -  In Gutsy FF2 you had to change that value from Ubuntu to Firefox for the Full Hotmail to work, now its to be blank.
[20:11] <tzd> jmichelsen: about to download it for a usb bootable drive... well actually i'm creating the bootable usb drive now
[20:11] <RequinB4> dpick - a shell script should work...
[20:11] <jmichelsen> tzd: gotcha
[20:11] <aldroid> dpick: you should put the script in your $HOME/bin or specify full pathname
[20:12] <RequinB4> dpick -- just chmod +x it and put it in your path, then run it as a command
[20:12] <tuxsudo> wow, after that dpkg fix, everything seems righ including xserver! Hooray
[20:12] <RequinB4> $PATH
[20:12] <RequinB4> !yay | tuxsudo
[20:12] <jmichelsen> tzd: I prefer the cd method, usually just works but gl
[20:12] <carandraug> robelliott2125: in mine it says Ubuntu. Ok, thanks
[20:12] <dpick> alright, thanks
[20:12] <balz> I'm getting "Bonjour Stopped" in the mt-daapd (firefly) webUI ... how do I start it?  I've already tried starting (and restarting) avahi-daemon.  is this why 0 songs are being served?
[20:12] <robelliott2125> Your welcome carandraug:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=883976  I just carried on hitting google and stumbled across it.  :P
[20:14] <tzd> jmichelsen: yeah me too, this is the first time I'm using the usb drive... need it though since an eee pc won't have a cd drive and i don't have an external one either
[20:14] <cyban> *Tears hair out*
[20:14] <jmichelsen> tzd: lol eepc, true
[20:14] <jmichelsen> tzd: brb in a bit
[20:14] <cyban> Grub Error 21, Grub Error 2, and some screwed up thing where theres a bunch of 9's acrpss the screen
[20:15] <cyban> anyone have a trick to getting Ubu to install on a fakeraid 0 aray (Which it can find and has no problems with during install) ?
[20:15] <tuxsudo> now I need to know how to get rid of all those extra kernals in grub
[20:15] <Gnea> !fakeraid | cyban
[20:15] <cyban> Or is this OS mainly for desktops?
[20:15] <jordo2323_> Is there a command to kill all telnet sessions?
[20:15] <Gillpy> tuxsudo: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:15] <tyyrant27> anyone ever had trouble getting a laptop to start up on battery after a shutdown?  My computer will POST then shutdown on battery power after a shutdown.  If i plug it in it works fine.
[20:16] <unop> tuxsudo, if the older kernels are still installed, remove them with synaptic and they should be removed from grub
[20:16] <dpick> it doesn't execute the second command using a bash script
[20:16] <Gnea> cyban: also, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62717
[20:16] <cyban> 2 of those links from the Bot btw are 404
[20:18] <Gnea> cyban: they all work here, try to refresh
[20:18] <Osse> jordo2323_ - killall telnet
[20:18] <Anza> How was that to get into the configuration folfer of an app? ~.nicotine    /home/~.nicotine    ?
[20:18] <unop> dpick, if you use && the second command only executes if the first one succeeds .. so if the second one isn't running, you know..
[20:18] <dpick> the first one is running fine though
[20:19] <jordo2323_> How do you list cron jobs in the command line?
[20:19] <unop> Anza, ~/.nicotine  # but an app is not obliged to keep it's configuration files there .. it could be anywhere
[20:19] <unop> jordo2323, crontab -l
[20:19] <Gnea> !crontab | jordo2323_
[20:19] <dpick> jordo2323: cronta -l
[20:19] <dpick> crontab*
[20:19] <jordo2323_> thx all
[20:19] <unop> dpick, use this syntax.   command1 & command2
[20:19] <seeker71> any sftp gurus in the house?  I'm having a strange problem with it
[20:20] <jpds> seeker71: Try: #ubuntu-server
[20:20] <j800r> !Chinese
[20:20] <seeker71> will do, thanks
[20:20] <dpick> unop: that worked, thanks
[20:20] <j800r> !Chinese| cuil
[20:21] <jesus_9001> whats the open source ATi driver called
[20:21] <Gnea> jesus_9001: ati
[20:21] <jesus_9001> link?
[20:21] <Gnea> for what?
[20:22] <tyyrant27> has anyone had trouble powering there laptop up after a shutdown on battery?  My laptop thinks my battery is dead when I power on after a shutdown.  After I plug it in it boots up fine and sees what my actual battery life is.  Anyone else have this trouble?
[20:22] <jesus_9001> nvm got it
[20:22] <dpick> is there anyway to execute a command after unlocking the gnome-screensaver, i just want my music to pause and unpause with lock and unlock
[20:22] <Gnea> tyyrant27: once in awhile
[20:22] <emlprime> is there a way to force a model instance to refresh its data from the database?
[20:22] <redjam> Howdy folks. Anyone got a minute they could maybe take a look at this for me see what they think? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=895706
[20:23] <tyyrant27> Gnea:  mine is constant.  Every shutdown I have to plug it in to get it to turn back on.  Do you know what the cause is?
[20:23] <Brucevdk> General question, is it possible to attach yourself to the stdout of a process that's already running? Should I be looking into gdb?
[20:23] <RequinB4> redjam: you'll get more clicks if you give a breif summary
[20:23] <tyyrant27> my acpi functions seem to act right?
[20:23] <jesus_9001> Does ubuntu install the closed source or the open source ATi drivers by default in Breezy
[20:23] <Carroarmato0> Anyone have experience setting up a VPN server using PPTP?
[20:23] <aldroid> dpick: unop: & will execute in parallel; use command1; command2 (semicolon) syntax to execute sequentially
[20:23] <jesus_9001> Does ubuntu install the closed source or the open source ATi drivers by default in Hardy sry
[20:23] <RequinB4> ubuntu can't legally ship proprietary software "by default'
[20:24] <RequinB4> does that answer your question
[20:24] <unop> aldroid, thanks .. i'm aware but he does not want that
[20:24] <redjam> installed ubuntu on my new 64bit machine and its incredibly slow :(
[20:24] <kale> hi, i need some help for setting up java, what do i do?
[20:24] <RequinB4> !java
[20:24] <inversions> lines below and adjust the settings to your hearts content.
[20:24] <inversions> es] alid users = %S
[20:24] <mralexandro> i went into windows partition manager and redused the windows volume, because i wanted more hardisk space for my linux disk
[20:24] <floppyears> hi guys
[20:24] <RequinB4> !hi | floppyyears
[20:24] <dpick> unop: it doesn't really matter to me, i mapped gnome-screensaver to a shortcut and i want my music to pause and when i hit it too
[20:25] <mralexandro> but how do i extend the already existing linux hardisk with more space
[20:25] <jf> After updating to kernel 2.6.24-21 fglrx stopped running with my ati xpress 200m :(
[20:25] <Oli``> Can I change which screen notifications (libnotify, I think) pop up on? By screen I mean out of my Twinview setup...
[20:25] <unop> dpick, so this keyboard shortcut calls a script which in turn calls gnome screensaver?
[20:25] <phuzzie> Am I the only one that finds Xorg seems to have a memory leak, over the weeks mine builds up to a resident size of close to 3GB...
[20:25] <bastid_raZor> mralexandro; if you have a liveCD it is recommended to resize a partition in that.
[20:25] <floppyears> I'm having some display issues with firefox in ubuntu hardy
[20:26] <mralexandro> i do have, thanks:)
[20:26] <Anza> what should I type in the terminal to get an app running?
[20:26] <floppyears> I have the same problem as the one explained in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776129
[20:26] <infz_> I can't get the alternate install cd to work from USB stick, is there any guides to do this? The LiveCD works fine, but doesn't support LVM
[20:26] <tyyrant27> jf: did you install from ati or through synaptic the first time?
[20:26] <mralexandro> gparted right?
[20:26] <DavidCanarias> Hi everyone! Any expert on audacity? I have the latest 1.3.4-beta version on my system and I don' know how to use it. It seems it's unstable so as a beginner would I be better off to download another version with a help manual???
[20:26] <dpick> unop, currently all thats in the script is, gnome-screensaver-command --lock & mocp --pause
[20:26] <dpick> which works
[20:26] <unop> Anza, the name of the app perhaps
[20:26] <kale> what i mean is, how do i get java to work in firefox?
[20:26] <jf> tyyrant27: Unsure, it was a while ago and it's not my computer.
[20:26] <jf> tyyrant27: But not I tried to download and install it manually.
[20:27] <unop> kale, install the sun-java6-jre package
[20:27] <jf> from ati.com
[20:27] <phuzzie> DavidCanarias: Beta software is by definition unstable...
[20:27] <mralexandro> bastid_razor: thanks for help
[20:27] <tyyrant27> if you compiled the old drivers from ati you need to get rid of them first
[20:27] <infz_> so anyone who could help me with that ^?
[20:27] <Osse> Could someone help me with a script? I want it to check screen resolution, if it's X then change to Y and vice versa.
[20:27] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: from what I've been able to discover, audacity has issues with Pulseaudio on Hardy
[20:27] <jesus_9001> Does ubuntu install the closed source or the open source ATi drivers by default in Hardy
[20:27] <unop> dpick, ok. and now you want to run another command when the screensaver unlocks?
[20:27] <dpick> unop: yep
[20:27] <qrush> I'm having a problem where firefox doesn't start. i've done 'killall firefox' but that wont let it start again
[20:27] <DavidCanarias> phuzzie. Thanks
[20:27] <qrush> any clues?
[20:27] <kale> unop: would you happen to know what package i need for flash?
[20:27] <Osse> qrush - Goes it give you an error?
[20:28] <unop> dpick, i am not sure this is possible .. i can't verify either as i don't run gnome.
[20:28] <DavidCanarias> Scunizi - should I find out about Pulseaudio then?
[20:28] <valleyp> jesus_9001 opensource drivers
[20:28] <unop> kale, flashplugin-nonfree
[20:28] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: check audacity'
[20:28] <tyyrant27> non-free-flash-plugin or something close tot hat kate
[20:28] <rr> closed always ati
[20:28] <kale> unop: ok, thanks
[20:28] <dpick> unop: i'm actually using xfce, but with gnome-screensaver
[20:28] <tyyrant27> yeah what unop said
[20:28] <balz> how do i check who owns a directory with the command line?
[20:28] <jesus_9001> valleyp: If i'm having blank screen problems would it be safe to say that I should use the Official ATi driver then?
[20:28] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: Check audacity's website and ubuntu forums
[20:28] <rya1>  *-network DISABLED
[20:28] <rya1>        description: Wireless interface
[20:28] <rya1>        physical id: 1
[20:28] <rya1>        logical name: wlan0
[20:28] <rya1>        serial: 00:14:a5:42:b2:6d
[20:28] <FloodBot1> rya1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <rya1>        capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
[20:28] <jf> tyyrant27: Can I do that without having the old ati.run-file or whatever?
[20:28] <DavidCanarias> scunizi - thanks will do
[20:28] <bastid_raZor> balz; ls -al directory
[20:28] <unop> balz, ls -ld directory
[20:28] <rya1> how do i enable my wireless?
[20:28] <dpick> is there a better way to lock the machine?
[20:28] <w00kie> what does this mean
[20:28] <balz> thanks!
[20:28] <Philip__> hlep
[20:29] <Philip__> help
[20:29] <w00kie> The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[20:29] <Bond877> Hello I have tried and tried and tried to intall Xubuntu. I know have several costers. I checked the iso's md5sum it matched. I then burned it to a disk at 4x. I booted and went through the intallation. I got to intalling base sytem and... error "The installer cannot figure out how to install the base system. No installable CD-ROM was fiund and no valid mirror was configured" I am know checking the cd integrity. Can anyone hel
[20:29] <Osse> tuxsudo - Was that to me? ^^
[20:29] <qrush> Osse: no, nothing pops up
[20:29] <unop> balz, or more accurately.   stat -c '%G' /path/to/directory
[20:29] <qrush> Osse: i launched firefox and nothing happens
[20:29] <habernet> i just installed azureus and it says (after a test) that my port (20678) timed out and is probably closed. how do i fix this?
[20:29] <Osse> Hmm, try killall firefox then alt+f2 firefox.
[20:29] <Bond877> I have googled and have found nothing. Other people have had it but it was either something that didn't work for me or not solved
[20:30] <Osse> Could someone help me with a script? I want it to check screen resolution, if it's X then change to Y and vice versa.
[20:30] <dpick> habernet: you have to open the port on your router
[20:30] <balz> unop:  thanks
[20:30] <habernet> dpick trying that now hd on
[20:30] <Scunizi> Bond877: do you have a functional Gnome Ubuntu install cd? if so you can install that system then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for the xfce interface and related files.
[20:30] <rya1> how do i enable my wireless on my laptop.  sudo lshw shows the wireless is disabled
[20:31] <Gillpy> Osse: #bash maybe?
[20:31] <Osse> Oh, thanks Gillpy.
[20:31] <qrush> Osse: I already did that
[20:31] <locohost> rya1, is there a wireless switch on the laptop?
[20:31] <Osse> Sorry then, can't help you qrush.
[20:31] <rya1> yeah, its on.
[20:31] <qrush> once again, i'm having an issue where firefox won't launch. i've killall firefox and launched it again to no avail
[20:31] <balz> okay... i figured out my mt-daapd problem.  My music directory was owned by another user.  How do i add full read/write priviledges for a particular user to a directory (including all subdirectories)?
[20:31] <jesus_9001> If i'm having blank screen problems would it be safe to say that I should use the Official ATi driver then?
[20:32] <Bond877> Oh the cd check is done it has a corrupt file ./poold/main/g/glibc/libc6-i686_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb didn;t match the md5sum but the iso matched what happened?
[20:32] <unop> balz, what is the path of this directory?
[20:32] <DavidCanarias> scunizi - I have checked with audacity and can download an earlier version 1.2.4b and others. I can download my debian no problem, but hey mention Architecture? and mention several so which would I download any idea????
[20:32] <balz> the path is /var/lib/mythtv/music
[20:32] <Gillpy> qrush: launch it from terminal ?
[20:32] <Hotkey> I'm trying to figure out how to access my TV card in my dell pc using hardy - anyone help?
[20:32] <Gillpy> qrush: and see what erro?
[20:32] <Bond877> I do have a ubuntu cd but this computer is 500mhz and 192mb ram so I can't run Ubuntu :(
[20:32] <balz> and i need to give user "louis" full read/write that directory and all subdirs
[20:32] <unop> balz, which group owns this directory?
[20:32] <balz> user mythtv
[20:32] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: i386 is typically the standard..
[20:32] <unop> balz, group?
[20:33] <Hotkey> balz is that for me?
[20:33] <DavidCanarias> scunizi no mention of i386. Just things like alpha, amd64, arm, hppa etc., so I'm lost!!
[20:33] <balz> unop:  i'm guessing mythtv?  I'm getting this for all subdirs:  drwxrws--- (number) mythtv mythtv (number 2008-08-20 20:28
[20:33] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: give me a link to that page.
[20:33] <Dethray> My volume control disappeared...what is the name of the applet? :)
[20:33] <dpick> balz, do you just have a default mythtv setup?
[20:33] <unop> balz, add your user to the mythtv group then
[20:34] <Bond877> Can anyone help
[20:34] <balz> dpik:  more or less
[20:34] <kale> unop: ok, i instaled the java6 package, but firefox does not use it, how do i proced?
[20:34] <balz> unop:  how do I do that via command line?
[20:34] <balz> unop:  i'm sshed in
[20:34] <dpick> then the group is mythtv
[20:34] <balz> Hotkey:  are you using mythtv?
[20:34] <unop> balz, sudo adduser $USER mythtv
[20:34] <kale> balz: gpasswd -a user group
[20:34] <seeker71> winscp cannot overwrite files connecting to ubuntu with latest openssh installed.  can delete and create new files, but not overwrite existing.  permissions at 777 for testing. any ideas?
[20:34] <Dethray> Blah, found it. :)
[20:34] <unop> kale, did you restart firefox?
[20:34] <kale> unop: yes
[20:35] <Gillpy> Dethray: alsamixer , gnome-volume-manager ?
[20:35] <aldroid> dpick: use: while [ "$(gnome-screensaver-command --query)" == "The screensaver is active" ]; do echo -n ""; done
[20:35] <Hotkey> balz no - i have a dell pc with a tv card cable connection - works in xp - trying to get it set up in hardy
[20:35] <aldroid> dpick: to wait. weird but works.
[20:35] <Bond877> Ubuntu cd win't boot can anyone help me please.
[20:35] <unop> kale, navigate to about:plugins .. do you see java listed there?
[20:35] <balz> unop, it says that my user is already a member of "mythtv"
[20:35] <DavidCanarias> scunizi I've just found a version in audacity sourceforge Stable 1.2 for all users with options for Linux/Unix but I'm doubtful if this is the right one? Any ideas
[20:35] <linuxfce> How do I use CVS respositories with CVS? After logging in to the sourceforge CVS I do not know what to do.
[20:35] <kale> unop: nope, flash works though
[20:36] <dpick> aldroid: thanks
[20:36] <balz> hotkey: what software are you trying to use as far as viewing though?
[20:36] <unop> balz, what does   groups  return?
[20:36] <swmiller6> Bond877: try the alternative install disk I allways have better luck with it
[20:36] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: can you give me a link?
[20:36] <kale> unop: i may need to make a symlink, but cannot remember which one to link from or to
[20:36] <Bond877> Anyone or do I have to re-burn the iso again that's what I have
[20:36] <Bond877> I have the alternative
[20:36] <unop> kale, are you sure you installed sun-java6-jre ?
[20:36] <dpick> aldroid: is there a way to lock a machine without using the screensaver, like in windows?
[20:36] <Hotkey> balz read about tvtime on a few forums, installed thru synaptic but it wont run
[20:36] <Daenyth|Work> Hi, I'm installing ubuntu to dual-boot with vista on a laptop, and I'm using the guided resize option for the installer. It's been on 0% for the resizing partition thing for a long time
[20:36] <DavidCanarias> scunizi the link is http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/
[20:36] <inbitado34> how can i see if my 5.1 soun is working ?  i'm using oss now
[20:36] <Bond877> the regular Xubuntu was a little to resource demanding to intall
[20:36] <kale> unop: yes
[20:37] <dpick> Hotkey: you can use mplayer to view a tvcard
[20:37] <Hotkey> dpick i dunno
[20:37] <unop> kale, and the firefox you have installed now was taken from the repos?
[20:37] <kale> unop: yes
[20:37] <swmiller6> Bond877: do you have a different cd burner you can use
[20:37] <Bond877> Please I have  burned the to disk 6 time non working with because some iso was corrupt or burning or wrong burning ,ethoud
[20:37] <dpick> Hotkey: its kinda of difficult because you have to give it a channel file
[20:37] <kale> unop: only repo added is multiverse
[20:38] <Hotkey> dpick i have mplayer but no idea how to have it access tv card
[20:38] <Daenyth|Work> dmesg says that "program parted_devices is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, pleaase convert it to SG_IO
[20:38] <dpick> Hotkey: why don't you just use the mythfrontend?
[20:38] <balz> unop:  groups returns:  louis adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse mythtv admin lpadmin
[20:38] <Daenyth|Work> will the vista partition be damaged?
[20:38] <DavidCanarias> scunizi - this link will take you thru to debian and then all the architecture business I mentionned earlier!!!!
[20:38] <Hotkey> dpick ok - whats involved?
[20:38] <unop> kale, what does this return?   dpkg -l | grep -i sun-java6-jre
[20:38] <Bond877> Yes but I have tried with that I ty again because the time I used that burner it was a bad iso
[20:38] <r4b> is anyone here running netbook remix?
[20:38] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: looking now
[20:38] <balz> Hotkey:  I've never heard of tvtime, but I can attest to mythtv's awesomeness
[20:38] <balz> might be overkill for what you're trying to do but it does work
[20:38] <unop> balz, what exactly happens when you try and write to the directory then?
[20:38] <Paddy_EIRE> hey Pici little information here so far will provide the rest in a moment once I get this thing hooked up to the net. Anyway got a mates E-Machines 4115c with ubuntu installed on it.. all working from day 1 till yesterday his wireless will not connect to anything..
[20:38] <kale> unop: ii  sun-java6-jre                              6-06-0ubuntu1
[20:38] <DavidCanarias> scunizi :) thanks a lot!
[20:38] <balz> Hotkey:  i'm guessing it's rpobably a driver issue, but i dont' know
[20:39] <Bond877> Is there anyway to put backup files on the cd so if the onw in the iso fails it will try the backup of that file?
[20:39] <swmiller6> Bond877: did you run a memory test?
[20:39] <Hotkey> balz that could be
[20:39] <habernet> im trying to open a port on my router so i can use azureus, in my router it asks for an application name and give things like pop3, http, etc. what should i choose?
[20:39] <balz> unop:  well i'm trying to get mt-daapd to scan the directory recursively and it keeps failing so i ran mt-daapd -f and it gave me opendir:  Permission denied for each subdirectory
[20:39] <Bond877> Not yet though I thought it was fine because the Live CD ran (IT was SLOW though and also froze)
[20:39] <KaiForce> habernet you'll probably need to create a new service
[20:40] <Paddy_EIRE> Pici: likely causes.. an update possibly.. or perhaps just the wrong driver.. I noticed the internal wifi registers as a usb device.. odd
[20:40] <dpick> hotkey: http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.aspx?i=154
[20:40] <Paddy_EIRE> or not
[20:40] <swmiller6> Bond877: I had similar problem and it ended up being the ram
[20:40] <Daenyth|Work> Can someone help me please?
[20:40] <tyyrant27> balz: where did you download it from?
[20:40] <Bond877> OK I'll run a mem test
[20:40] <Hotkey> dpick ok thanks i'll take a peek
[20:40] <unop> balz, does the group mythtv have read/write permissions on each of the subdirs?
[20:40] <balz> tyrant27:  download what?
[20:40] <Bond877> torrent and md5sum passed
[20:40] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | Daenyth|Work
[20:40] <Carroarmato0> How can I set iptables to forward Vpn connections from ppp0 to the internet on eth0?
[20:40] <swmiller6> Bond877: is there more then on stick of ram in the machine?
[20:40] <balz> unop:  how do i check? forgive my n00bness
[20:40] <tyyrant27> balz: sry...
[20:40] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: I did ask, lemme repaste it
[20:41] <tyyrant27> Bond: where did you download it from
[20:41] <Bond877> One sec Thanks for the help
[20:41] <habernet> kaiforc, i just installed azureus and it says that my port is probably closed (20678) i've never had this problem before with torrent apps, how do i fix it?
[20:41] <habernet> kaiforce
[20:41] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: looks like you're stuck with the source packages no matter what you do.  I did find a .deb of version 1.3.x.x at http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=audacity
[20:41] <Daenyth|Work> I'm using the guided ntfs resize option on the 8.04 installer; it's stuck at 0% for quite some time. dmesg says that "program parted_devices is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, pleaase convert it to SG_IO. Will the ntfs partition be damaged if I abort it now?
[20:41] <Daenyth|Work> 0% for "resizing partition"
[20:41] <unop> kale, not sure .. you might want to create a link to the libjavaplugin.so file in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[20:42] <rr> daentyth vista with other os dont
[20:42] <unop> balz, ls -ld ,...
[20:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Daenyth|Work: then you'll just need a little patience till someone frees up thats all.. perhaps If I get these comps finished in the next hour or so I will try my best to help you if that would be alright
[20:42] <kale> unop: sun-java6-Ãplugin probably ...
[20:42] <KaiForce> habernet: create a new service on your router called torrent or whatever, assign the right port, and create a port forward that uses that service and points to your azureus machine.
[20:42] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: unfortuantly I've never found the solution to Audacity in Hardy with pulseaudio.  I've had to load audacity on my windows partition just to get things done.
[20:42] <DocMabuse> hello
[20:42] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: I just want to know if it will be damaged if I abort right now
[20:42] <DocMabuse> somebody can help me with the mplayer?
[20:42] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: the student is leaving the country tomorrow, and I'm leaving here in 45 minutes
[20:42] <Paddy_EIRE> oh 1 sec let me read that again Daenyth|Work
[20:42] <Daenyth|Work> so
[20:42] <dpick> DocMabuse: maybe what did you need help with?
[20:42] <swmiller6> kale: have you tried alternative configurator
[20:43] <Theaxiom> I know this may sound like a dumb question, but how do I add an executable to my path in ubuntu?
[20:43] <Gnea> DocMabuse: what's wrong with it?
[20:43] <kale> unop: yep, that was it, thank for the insights, im using gentoo myself, but this is for a newbee
[20:43] <DocMabuse> My Films have extrem bliue color
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Daenyth|Work: no it wont
[20:43] <DocMabuse> blue
[20:43] <balz> unop:  i tried on one of the subdirectories and got this:  drwxrws--- 8 mythtv mythtv 48 2008-08-20 20:28 /var/lib/mythtv/music/Zebrahead
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: ah thanks
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <FloodBot1> OMFGrhombus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <Gnea> OMFGrhombus: was that an attempt at intelligence?
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <kale> swmiller6: i just needed the sun-java6-plugin package
[20:43] <Bond877> Yes there are two RAM modules
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <Gnea> !ops | OMFGrhombus
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Daenyth|Work: it may perform a chkdsk though on next boot into your windows partition
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <OMFGrhombus> HURR DURR LOL PENGUINS
[20:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Daenyth|Work: it did not actually touch the FS
[20:43] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: that's fine as long as it's not damaged.
[20:43] <unop> balz, just to make sure -- log out and log back in
[20:43] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: great, thanks
[20:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Daenyth|Work: sure mate no probs good luck
[20:44] <DocMabuse> then i wnat to install the codec but the shell told me i dont have a package for this
[20:44] <DavidCanarias> scunizi - oh dear!!! I just wanted to edit some music files and someone suggested audacity. Is there another one I can use to do the job?
[20:44] <dpick> DocMabuse: which codec?
[20:44] <lufis> I used to be able to read/write FTP right in Nautilus, but now it opens up Firefox. What's up with that?
[20:44] <DavidCanarias> scunizi - another program?
[20:44] <DocMabuse> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[20:44] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: there are others but I haven't used them.  Search Synaptic for audio editor and see what pops up.
[20:44] <Theaxiom> Simple question, how do I add an executable to my PATH in Ubuntu?
[20:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Daenyth|Work: you may need to just plain kill ubuntu (cold boot) in order for it to perhaps kill that faulty process
[20:45] <lufis> Theaxiom: sudo cp executable /usr/bin
[20:45] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: yeah, I'll play around
[20:45] <dpick> Theaxiom: do you want to move a executable there?
[20:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Daenyth|Work: nothing major to worry about though
[20:45] <Daenyth|Work> I can change to tty so I'm not particularly worried
[20:45] <Theaxiom> dpick: No
[20:45] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: does the install cd have sysrq enabled?
[20:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Daenyth|Work: and always keep backups :)
[20:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Daenyth|Work: yes
[20:45] <lufis> Theaxiom: or just move it to /opt and run it from there, that's what i always do
[20:45] <balz> unop:  ok logged back in
[20:46] <Theaxiom> lufis: I can't move it
[20:46] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: yeah, I backed up the student's data before, but I dislike giving people their stuff back in worse shape than they gave it to me
[20:46] <Bond877> Mem test is running
[20:46] <DavidCanarias> scunizi - thanks a lot for your help
[20:46] <unop> Osse,  if [[ $(awk '{print $1}' < <(xrandr | grep '*')) == '1280x768' ]]; then xrandr -s 1280x1280; fi
[20:46] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: luckily he has the vista disks at home so it shouldn't be a problem
[20:46] <balz> unop:  i'm sshed in, so i just need to close that session and start a new one, right?  that counts as log out/in?
[20:46] <DocMabuse> dpick did you know?
[20:46] <Daenyth|Work> unop: [[ is not part of the if syntax
[20:46] <Daenyth|Work> unop: you can just "if awk blah; then
[20:46] <unop> Daenyth|Work, assuming his shell is bash .. [[ is valid syntax
[20:46] <Daenyth|Work> unop: [[ is not syntax, [[ is a command
[20:47] <lufis> Theaxiom: So you want to add the directory the binary is in to your path correct/
[20:47] <unop> Daenyth|Work, stop being silly ..  which [[  returns nothing
[20:47] <Theaxiom> lufis: Yes, do I just need to make a symlink?
[20:47] <unop> balz, i suppose .. try creating a file in one of those dirs.
[20:47] <Gillpy> Theaxiom: you can edit $PATH to include the directory of teh executable  or you can create an alias to point to the absolute path
[20:47] <Daenyth|Work> unop: `help if'
[20:47] <tyyrant27> theaxiom: can't you use ln -s/
[20:47] <balz> unop;  what if i did chmod 777?
[20:48] <unop> Daenyth|Work, though [  is a command .. [[ is not
[20:48] <unop> balz, that gives everyone in the world write access - which is unnecessary
[20:48] <Theaxiom> Gillpy: Thank you
[20:48] <Theaxiom> lufis: tyyrant27: thanks
[20:48] <Daenyth|Work> unop: sorry; [[ is a bash builtin
[20:48] <inbitado34> how can i see if my 5.1 soun is working ?  i'm using oss now
[20:49] <unop> Daenyth|Work, right .. and necessary in this case
[20:49] <Daenyth|Work> no
[20:49] <Daenyth|Work> oh I see
[20:49] <Daenyth|Work> I would have done it differently
[20:49] <balz> unop:  is there a way to do that just for user "louis" ?
[20:49] <unop> Daenyth|Work, there's 17 ways to skin a cat ..
[20:49] <Daenyth|Work> :p
[20:49] <balz> unop:  actually i just tried making a directory and it worked...
[20:49] <bastid_raZor> poor cat
[20:50] <balz> so i have no idea why firefly can't do it
[20:50] <unop> balz, i don't see why your command fails
[20:50] <Daenyth|Work> anyway
[20:50] <Paddy_EIRE> unop: I bet I could beat that record
[20:50] <balz> unop:  yeah it's weird
[20:50] <unop> balz, is that user a member of the mythtv group ?
[20:50] <Daenyth|Work> is there anything special I have to do to restart the ubuntu installer? I did a telinit 3; telinit 5, and now it's just got the background
[20:50] <Paddy_EIRE> what a user name
[20:50] <balz> unop:  i believe so
[20:50] <Daenyth|Work> but the app didn't start
[20:50]  * Paddy_EIRE face palms
[20:50] <balz> unop:  how do i check?
[20:50] <unop> balz, groups username  i think
[20:50] <Daenyth|Work> lemme try a zap..
[20:50] <Zopiac> this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242533 says that a mag innovation lcd monitor does not work with ubuntu, can i get a confirmation???
[20:51] <balz> yeah that user is part of that group
[20:51] <Daenyth|Work> wth
[20:51] <unop> balz, log on as that user and try creating a file in one of those dirs
[20:51] <Daenyth|Work> ok, really odd
[20:51] <Daenyth|Work> I Zapped X and now I can't type anything on tty
[20:51] <Bond877> The Memtest is at 22 percent
[20:51] <Daenyth|Work> I can change tty fine, but I can't type
[20:51] <balz> unop:  i did. it works
[20:51] <Daenyth|Work> and X isn't restarting..
[20:52] <rn114> hi guys, i'm trying to make an ubuntu package but it bombs out when i run pbuilder
[20:52] <Bodsda> !enter > Daenyth|Work
[20:52] <rn114> apparently The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:52] <rn114>   pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libdts-dev which is a virtual package.
[20:52] <rn114> and some more apparently virtual package that i'm pretty sure aren't virtual
[20:52] <unop> balz, hmm, very strange.  did you recently add this user to the mythtv group .. or was it setup that way?
[20:53] <Daenyth|Work> Paddy_EIRE: thanks for the help
[20:53] <balz> it was set up that way
[20:53] <Scunizi> DavidCanarias: no problem.. sorry for the late reply.. working.. interruptions and everything :)
[20:53] <unop> balz, actually .. what is this command, and how are you invoking it?
[20:53] <fevel> I am having trouble with proftpd can anyone help me , It doesnt let me create folders or anything
[20:53] <Bond877> What else could cause a problem
[20:53] <abbot> hey guys.  i'm having problems with my wifi.  i used ndiswrapper before (in gutsy) with these same drivers and it worked.  now in hardy they don't seem to be working.  it says it's installed ok and the hardware is present, but it wont find any networks.
[20:53] <deuryte> con some one help me please
[20:53] <Bond877> for installation this iso is corrupt yet the iso passed the md5sum
[20:54] <balz> unop:  the mt-daapd -f command?  I got it from a forum because i was having problems with getting a music share up.  it seems as though ti gives real time output and error messages
[20:55] <deuryte> help please?
[20:55] <Bond877> What is your problem
[20:55] <unop> balz, so how exactly are you calling this command and what kind of error messages do you get?  use the pastebin and show us an excerpt .. maybe the problem is beyond permissions?
[20:55] <kenden> HEllo there. I seem to have a very annoying problem with Hardy Heron 8.04. Every time I select "switch user" and then log back in with the same user my session is closed and it starts a new one. So whenever i want to leave programs running and switch user for securtiy purposes so that others can use the computer but not my user, I cannot do it because its as if my session is closed every time i switch users. What could the problem be and how could i fix it?
[20:55] <kenden> Thanks in advance
[20:56] <thomasite> Hello.
[20:56] <Osse> unop - It doesn't switch back to my selected value.
[20:56] <aldroid> kerden: Congrats, you've just logged on twice as the same user.
[20:56] <deuryte> Bond877> i just downloaded the new iso image of ubuntu, what do i need to open it up?, i do not have a dvd rw
[20:56] <balz> unop:  before I do.  there's a runas parameter in the config file whose value is mt-daapd ... i don't have such a user, coudl that be the problem?
[20:56] <thomasite> I have a problem. :( I'm hoping to use Latex in my system. What do I have to install? Thanks.
[20:56] <unop> balz, it sure could .. but i can't speak for how mythtv is designed
[20:57] <Bond877> Wait to extract the files from the iso or to burn it to cd
[20:57] <unop> balz, you could change that to reflect an actual user on the system
[20:57] <balz> unop:  let me try that, then i actually have to run.  thanks so much for the help though
[20:57] <lint> hello, can someone tell me how to upgrade from version 6.06 to the most recent version of ubuntu?
[20:57] <balz> unop:  yeah that's what i'm going to try real quick
[20:57] <Paddy_EIRE> hey SNuxoll was already trying Pici but could not get him earlier,  little information here so far will provide the rest in a moment once I get this thing hooked up to the net. Anyway got a mates E-Machines 4115c with ubuntu installed on it.. all working from day 1 till yesterday his wireless will not connect to anything..
[20:57] <unop> Osse, try using an echo command to see if the test succeeds.
[20:57] <Paddy_EIRE> SNuxoll: : likely causes.. an update possibly.. or perhaps just the wrong driver.. I noticed the internal wifi registers as a usb device.. odd no?
[20:58] <deuryte> Bond877> well, my cd drive wont open the iso. do i need other software to open it from the desktop location?
[20:58] <lint> hello, can someone tell me how to upgrade from version 6.06 to the most recent version of ubuntu?
[20:58] <Paddy_EIRE> !upgrade | lint
[20:58] <kenden> aldroid why does that happen? That didnt use to happen and i was not aware nor think that is the default setting. I should be able to simply reopen/unlock the session which i previously left open when i switched user
[20:58] <unop> Osse,  if [[ $(awk '{print $1}' < <(xrandr | grep '*')) == '1280x768' ]]; then echo attempting to change to 1280x1280; fi
[20:58] <k31to> hi, just installed the latest fglrx driver from ati website and its pants so need to remove it, but sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx does nothing, how do I revert to the open source driver again? help!
[20:59] <Osse> unop - on it =)
[20:59] <Osse> unop - Mind if I PM you?
[20:59] <SNuxoll> Paddy_EIRE: hrm, is it a laptop?
[20:59] <Paddy_EIRE> SNuxoll: oh yeah yes lol
[20:59] <kenden> HEllo there. I seem to have a very annoying problem with Hardy Heron 8.04. Every time I select "switch user" and then log back in with the same user my session is closed and it starts a new one. So whenever i want to leave programs running and switch user for securtiy purposes so that others can use the computer but not my user, I cannot do it because its as if my session is closed every time i switch users. What could the problem be and how could i fix it?
[20:59] <kenden> Thanks in advance
[21:00] <unop> Osse, let's keep this in the channel so others can contribute too.
[21:00] <SNuxoll> Paddy_EIRE: a lot of laptops seem to use internal USB for wifi these days, makes it easier to switch on and off
[21:00] <Paddy_EIRE> SNuxoll: I'm doing the usuals at the moment... lspci etc
[21:00] <Osse> Okay, well - if [[ $(awk '{print $1}' < <(xrandr | grep '*')) == '1440x900' ]]; then echo -e "1440x900"; fi It outputted what the echo tells.
[21:00] <Paddy_EIRE> SNuxoll: ah I see
[21:00] <SNuxoll> Paddy_EIRE: lsusb silly :P
[21:00] <Paddy_EIRE> SNuxoll: doh
[21:01] <deuryte> Bond877> here is what happened, i loeaded an older version of 8.04,"not iso", so now i downloaded the new iso to a different pc and used winimage to open iso and put THAT on a thumb drive, will i need other software to open that??
[21:01] <unop> Osse, ok .. so it seems that using xrandr to set a new mode fails --  does xrandr even support the new mode you want?
[21:01] <Paddy_EIRE> SNuxoll: other than that the lappy is a flying machine... mostly intel including gfx
[21:01] <unop> Osse, type xrandr on its own to find out
[21:01] <Osse> unop - Yeah, I've tried xrandr -s 640x480, it switches.
[21:01]  * Paddy_EIRE brb
[21:01] <Osse> So I can change the echo to "xrandr -s 640x480"
[21:01] <SNuxoll> Paddy_EIRE: nice
[21:01] <unop> Osse, right
[21:02] <deuryte> help please?
[21:03] <Bond877> I am
[21:03] <DocMabuse> ok i found it
[21:03] <DocMabuse> :D
[21:03] <DocMabuse> really banal
[21:04] <kenden> HEllo there. I seem to have a very annoying problem with Hardy Heron 8.04. Every time I select "switch user" and then log back in with the same user my session is closed and it starts a new one. So whenever i want to leave programs running and switch user for securtiy purposes so that others can use the computer but not my user, I cannot do it because its as if my session is closed every time i switch users. What could the problem be and how could i fix it?
[21:04] <kenden> Thanks in advance
[21:04] <Osse> unop - I solved it =)
[21:04] <k31to> does anyone know how to uninstall the fglrx driver from the ati website for hardy?
[21:04] <unop> Osse, nice. what did you do?
[21:04] <k31to> reverting to the open source ati one
[21:04] <Osse> unop - I just added an else;
[21:04] <Osse> if [[ $(awk '{print $1}' < <(xrandr | grep '*')) == '1440x900' ]]; then xrandr -s 640x480; else xrandr -s 1440x900; fi
[21:05] <fiete> Hi! network-manager (pptp) doesnt store some passwords. how can i directly access or reset the keyring?
[21:05] <unop> Osse, that's unnecessary .. but anyway ..
[21:05] <Osse> It didn't switch if I just had it like the previous. =(
[21:05] <robot_jesus> how can I tell what /dev device my external usb drive ?
[21:05] <unop> Osse, actually that could be adverse if your current mode is not  1440x900
[21:05] <robot_jesus> its not currently mounted Im trying to mount it
[21:05] <abbot> i'm trying to get 3d support so compiz will work.  i have an ATI Radeon card and i had compiz working fine under gutsy.  when i try now though it tells me "desktop effects can not be enabled"
[21:06] <unop> robot_jesus,  sudo fdisk -l
[21:06] <arrrghhh> abbot, do you have the accelerated drivers installed for ati?
[21:06] <arrrghhh> !ati | abbot
[21:06] <k31to> abbot: 2 secs got the answer for you...
[21:06] <Osse> unop - It could?
[21:06] <k31to> abbot: mkdir -p ~/.config/compiz; echo SKIP_CHECKS=yes >> ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager
[21:06] <k31to> abbot: are you using the open source driver
[21:06] <unop> Osse, yea.. if your current mode is say 1024x768 .. that will set it to  1440x900
[21:06] <WDC> Oh hai
[21:07] <Osse> But if my mode is 1440x900 then it switches to 640x480, if it aint 1440x900 it switches to 1400x900.
[21:07] <WDC> When I open computer I get this: Nautilus cannot handle computer: locations.
[21:07] <floppyears> hi guys
[21:07] <floppyears> I installed ubuntustudio
[21:07] <floppyears> and now not all the icons show up correctly :(
[21:07] <sub-esc> what command do I run to find out what apache modules are installed- particularly I want to know if the mod_rewite is installed. I tried "apache2 -M" but all it returned was "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}"
[21:07] <Osse> unop - Yes, but I only use two modes, one when I output the monitor on my TV, and one when I use the computer
[21:07] <shafire> timeout ---> http://z0r.de/?id=1272
[21:08] <unop> Osse, well well, you know what the command does .. :)
[21:08] <dusty_> Hey guys, how can you send a file from the command line via email (like echo/mail/sendmail) anyone know ?
[21:08] <Osse> Well, anyways. Thanks alot unop! Appriciate the help.
[21:08] <k31to> abbot: polite to reply ?
[21:08] <arrrghhh> dusty_, you can telnet into smtp servers, but i've never tried to attach a file with that, i've just used it to send test mails to ensure the mailsever was OK
[21:09] <phaverkamp> !gvfs
[21:09] <arrrghhh> !cancer
[21:09] <abbot> k31to: so i need to install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[21:09] <arrrghhh> you will soon ubottu ... you will soon
[21:10] <robot_jesus> unop: hmm didnt work
[21:10] <stefanbilde> anyone can help me, i get sound out of both speakers and headset at the same time??
[21:10] <arrrghhh> stefanbilde, splitter
[21:10] <phaverkamp> Anyone have problems/comments with gvfs?
[21:10] <unop> robot_jesus, didn't work means what exactly?
[21:10] <k31to> abbot: no
[21:11] <robot_jesus> unop , oops that worked now I needed the second usb installed for power i guess
[21:11] <unop> dusty_, the sendmail manpage should tell you how
[21:11] <k31to> abbot: are you using the open source driver? if so type what I told you to type above into a terminal and hit enter
[21:11] <k31to> abbot: your card is blacklisted, that just bypasses the blacklist ;)
[21:11] <abbot> k31to: ok.  i'll try.  one sec.  thanks
[21:11] <sub-esc>  what command do I run to find out which apache modules are installed- particularly I want to know if the mod_rewite is installed.
[21:12] <k31to> abbot: np
[21:12] <k31to> abbot: I'm just trying to remove the fglrx driver... its pants
[21:12] <WDC> When I open computer I get this: Nautilus cannot handle computer: locations.
[21:14] <WDC> Someone has GOT TO HAVE this error: Nautilus cannot handle computer:  locations.
[21:14] <arrrghhh> WDC, we're volunteers, take it easy.  someone will help if they know how.
[21:14] <abbot> k31to: it works now.  it's slower than before though, and i've got that 1 pixel line artifact on the right side of my drop shadow.  i'll have to find out how to fix that again.
[21:14] <WDC> I know, but I hear a lot about it online, and it seems to be 8.04
[21:14] <arrrghhh> WDC, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801597
[21:15] <kenden> ken
[21:15] <djhash> WDC: not necessary.. I have 4 installations of ubuntu.. and never had this error..
[21:15] <WDC> djhash: So, you DON'T know what it is?
[21:16] <k31to> abbot: what card you got?
[21:16] <unop> sub-esc, apache2 -M
[21:17] <k31to> abbot: the ati cards are blacklisted for a reason, I'm saving up, I gotta get me an nVidia asap!
[21:17] <abbot> k31to: i don't know specifically.  it's in a laptop.
[21:17] <unop> sub-esc, but you might need to edit /etc/apache2/apache.conf and change the values of User and Group  both to www-data
[21:17] <nadia> I installed an application by downloading and installing the .deb file (so not though Syn. Pack.man. or Add/Remove Applications). The application works fine, but there is no shortcut/launcher "inserted" into the Applications menu like with normal programs. Did I mis something?
[21:17] <k31to> abbot: type sudo lshw -class display
[21:17] <k31to> abbot: pastebin results
[21:17] <djhash> WDC: i never said I did.. my comment was about ur mentioning of this error being 8.04 related..
[21:17] <unop> nadia, try  sudo update-menus
[21:17] <dusty_> unop, i cant see?
[21:18] <unop> nadia, also perhaps. a logout might help
[21:18] <stefanbilde> anyone can help with sound, speakers dont cut the sound when i plug the headset in
[21:18] <rr> odd spending money on something you dont know
[21:18] <WDC> djhash: I know, but I was making sure if or if not you could help
[21:18] <k31to> abbot: or lspci | grep VGA
[21:18] <urkki> How to install arial-font?
[21:18] <djhash> WDC: sorry for the misleading.. no i can't help..
[21:18] <nadia> unop: I'ts been many reboots since the installation ;) I don't think its showing up.
[21:19] <carandraug> urkki: go to synaptic package manager and install mstffcorefont
[21:19] <abbot> k31to: says Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[21:19] <unop> !info msttcorefonts | urkki
[21:19] <bobertdos> WDC: You ARE using Hardy, right? According to the forums, it's a bug in Gvfs. They say the only way to get around it is to avoid updating that component after a fresh installation.
[21:19] <unop> nadia, not sure then. :/
[21:19] <bobertdos> WDC: but like a lot of other people running Hardy, I have never had this problem.
[21:20] <sub-esc> thanks unop. i'll looking int that
[21:20] <abbot> k31to: http://pastebin.com/d37a597b
[21:20] <manuel__> masfer38
[21:21] <k31to> abbot: thats what card you got ;) the command line is pretty handy at telling you what your system holds
[21:21] <nadia> unop: Is it usual that some Linux applications don't necessarily place an shortcut in the GNOME Applications menu, in contrast to most Windows application installation do?
[21:21] <DigiFly> whats a good audiocrad for 8.04 64bit ? i need always to put my old sb live back to get thing running better. but sb connect or newer card sounds much better.
[21:21] <kenden> HEllo there. I seem to have a very annoying problem with Hardy Heron 8.04. Every time I select "switch user" and then log back in with the same user my session is closed and it starts a new one. So whenever i want to leave programs running and switch user for securtiy purposes so that others can use the computer but not my user, I cannot do it because its as if my session is closed every time i switch users. What could the problem be and how could i fix it?
[21:21] <kenden> Thanks in advance
[21:21] <Pokshun> Friends, some of you may have heard about "easy_install" - can someone tell me how is installing a python app with easy_install different from installing via apt-get (in debian)
[21:21] <DigiFly> But for now microfoon and some audio in flash is really broken
[21:21] <abbot> k31to: thanks.  i'll have to tweak some compiz settings and turn some things off so it runs a bit smoother.
[21:21] <arrrghhh> kenden, why are you switching users and logging back in with the same user?
[21:22] <k31to> abbot: you could also install this pack sudo apt-get install sysinfo   --- if you run it by typing sysinfo in the terminal you can find out _loads_ of info on your system and export it to a handy text file ;)
[21:22] <abbot> k31to: now i've just gotta get my wifi working again.
[21:22] <carandraug> nadia: I've seen that before. I use the main menu so I can configure it manually. I find it better and takes less space in the panel
[21:22] <k31to> abbot: np I'm off now, peace
[21:22] <mac__> ho
[21:22] <unop> nadia, it depends on whether a menu entry is wanted or not .. the entry could be placed in the system/admin menu too
[21:23] <k31to> abbot: want my advice? buy a card that actually works with linux, I did and it works 10x better than my previosu card did with xp lol
[21:23] <arrrghhh> nadia, it's up to the package maintainer whether or not a menu entry is created.
[21:23] <arrrghhh> abbot, nvidia all the way baby
[21:23] <DigiFly> k31to, what type and manufacture ?
[21:23] <nadia> then this application probably doesn't install any
[21:23] <k31to> abbot: it cost £20 from linuxemporium (it was an edimax) I now have NO dropouts ever
[21:23] <unop> dusty_, sendmail -bunch -of -options </path/to/file.txt
[21:23] <HailandKill> I've been desperately trying to get better performance from my ATI X1100 chip. The fglrx driver with ubuntu gives slow video playback and casues wine to crash... the open source fast playback but horrible framerates on even Diablo II.. tried to install the latest ati drivers, failed.. now though the Hardware Drivers Manager doesn't see the card...?
[21:23] <k31to> DigiFly: see above
[21:23] <carandraug> nadia: also, if you right click the menu, you can select "Edit menus". You can manually add it
[21:24] <dusty_> unop, what are the options or can it just be sendmail </path/to/file.txt ?
[21:24] <kenden> arrrghhh Because i do not want to leave my session open. I want others to be able to user ubuntu with other users and then i want to retrieve my session by loggin back in.. Does that mak sensE?
[21:24] <Jesus> test
[21:24] <k31to> DigiFly: abbot: http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/  --> Edimax 54 Mbps Wireless PCI card
[21:24] <unop> dusty_, you need to specify a to address, a subject, a from address, etc
[21:25] <nadia> carandraug: Now that's a handy thing :) didn't knew where to find that function, been looking all over. Thanks!
[21:25] <MonthOLDpickle> Hey SeaPhor
[21:25] <dusty_> thanks
[21:26] <dtorkelson> I've just installed hardy on my toshiba satellite, but the gui is only using a small square in the center of the screen
[21:26] <DigiFly> k31to possible i look to qwuick. but i dont see audio
[21:26] <unop> dusty_, be careful with binary files tho .. those need to be encoded for attachments.
[21:26] <k31to> HailandKill: there should be a removal script in /usr/share/ati execute that and revert back to the open driver, if you need to fglrx then reinstall that (though i wouldn't)
[21:26] <k31to> DigiFly: we were talking about wifi cards
[21:26] <carandraug> nadia: you can also change the icon. It's a little tricky. When you select the propierties of a launcher, you can see the icon. CLick on the icon and a window to change it appears
[21:26] <DigiFly> I need a audiocard
[21:27] <MonthOLDpickle> how do I make my nvidia card used?
[21:27] <MonthOLDpickle> its a GeForce Go 7900 GS
[21:27] <MonthOLDpickle> 2 years old
[21:27] <carandraug> !nvidia | MonthOLDpickle
[21:27] <arrrghhh> kenden, no it doesn't
[21:27] <k31to> DigiFly: ahh, there will be some lists online somewhere ;)
[21:27] <DigiFly> i know. but the have mostly older hardware. :|
[21:28] <nadia> carandraug: Thanks, was just wondering how I could do that. Pretty well concealed I must admit ;)
[21:28] <IndyGunFreak> MonthOLDpickle: you should just be able to enable it in restricted drivers.
[21:28] <sivan> hi all
[21:28] <HailandKill> k31to: I didn't really explain very well.. while I get better video playback on the open source drivers, I can't play any games.. which I would kind of like... so I was going back to fglrx. But now the drivers manager can't see it.. well, I wondered why that might be?
[21:29] <sivan> After the last update the X server seems to switch mode on the screen , gets blank but nothing more then that
[21:29] <sivan> anybody know how to remedy that?
[21:29] <bobertdos> !hello | sivan
[21:29] <k31to> DigiFly: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[21:29] <sivan> (and if it's a problem of the last update?)
[21:29] <k31to> DigiFly: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-433850.html
[21:29] <MonthOLDpickle> !usb
[21:29] <arrrghhh> kenden, just do the switch user, login with the NEW user, let them do their thing, then when they log out it should kick back to a locked screen with your session waiting to be unlocked.
[21:30] <k31to> HailandKill: did you install from the ati site?
[21:30] <DigiFly> thanks k13to
[21:30] <hellcattrav> Hey all, ok so am at gamespot.com now and wanting to watch a video yet I don't see any sound
[21:30] <hellcattrav> hear rather
[21:30] <hellcattrav> I do see the video though..
[21:30] <k31to> DigiFly: np
[21:30]  * sivan wonders if anyone got stuck with the same issue
[21:30] <sanguisdex> So every 3rd time when I come out of suspend my laptop will not play sound till I reboot.  this happens when I have an active sound card when I go into suspend.  when I run run cat on the device I get "Input/outPut error".  any thing I could run to avoid haing to rebbot?
[21:31] <bobertdos> !x | sivan
[21:31] <HailandKill> k31to: I did.... it wasn't happy.
[21:31] <k31to> HailandKill: I did too that is why your driver manager can't see it
[21:31] <ConstyXIV> anyone in here know a little shell scripting?
[21:31] <k31to> HailandKill: you are stuck with it unitl you remove via the provided script
[21:32] <k31to> HailandKill: if you install from the repos you can disable from the driver manager...that is the only way
[21:32] <HailandKill> k31to: aah okay. Are you using fglrx from the ati site now?
[21:33] <k31to> HailandKill: just got rid ;)
[21:33] <sivan> bobertdos: that doesn't seem as a video resolution problem, though I will give the how a try, any other idea? the server log doesn't display an error at all
[21:33] <k31to> HailandKill: played games great but compiz didn't work
[21:33] <k31to> HailandKill: I'm gonna get an nvidia asap
[21:33] <DigiFly> i love nvidia with linux. it always my requirment
[21:34] <HailandKill> k31to: I've been cursing ati and wanting nvidia all day. Alas this is a laptop.
[21:34] <jc> does anyone know how to get shared printing on NX working?
[21:34] <newbie> Hi there.
[21:34]  * k31to thought ati were coming on in leaps and bounds, it turns out its been fairy-steps
[21:34] <WDC> HailandKill: Oh my. What's wrong?
[21:34] <k31to> HailandKill: ahhh.. gutted ;/
[21:35] <newbie> er der nogen danskere??
[21:35] <MonthOLDpickle> !nvidia
[21:35] <djhash> !da
[21:35] <k31to> HailandKill: it looks like for the moment you can't have the best of both worlds, I'm gonna stick with the open driver and see if the fglrx gets better any time soon
[21:35] <newbie> Sry
[21:35] <HailandKill> WDC: I want to get fglrx working... the repo one doesn't seem to and I've got myself in a mess with the newer drivers from ati's website
[21:36] <WDC> HailandKill: :O! Oh my. Sorry to hear that. I LOVE ATI.
[21:36] <k31to> HailandKill: don't worry just run that script to remove the ati.com driver...
[21:36] <k31to> WDC: you should lay off the crack son
[21:36]  * k31to is joking :)
[21:37] <rr> yes glue is better
[21:37] <WDC> k31to:  lol
[21:37] <MonthOLDpickle> SeaPhor, you there?
[21:37] <k31to> WDC: seriously though ati suck for linux support compared to nvidia even if ati are actually beginning to embrace open source (more than nvidia do anyhow)
[21:38] <[eXception]> what does that mean: unable to mount drive, because ntfs is marked to be in use...
[21:38] <WDC> k31to: I am new to Ubuntu, from Vista, so Video drivers are NOT an issue over on that side of thigns
[21:38] <{mg}> Hey People! I use one computer as a gateway to the internet (via iptables -j SNAT). Can I set up this machine in a way, so that when a browser connects to a certain domain, it gets redirected to another domain? any ideas?
[21:38] <djhash> just give them 50 years.. they'll both catchup to opensource
[21:38] <WDC> {mg}: Do you have a webserver running on it?
[21:38] <k31to> WDC: another one jumps ship after having seen the light... hallelujah
[21:39] <k31to> amen
[21:39] <carandraug> [eXception]: could you be more specific?
[21:39] <needhelp> Can anyone recommend a good video editor ?
[21:39] <{mg}> WDC: no
[21:39] <{mg}> WDC: why?
[21:39] <WDC> k31to: lol. Not loving the whole not being able to access "Computer" part though
[21:39] <k31to> needhelp: kino cinellera
[21:39] <[eXception]> caradraug: ubuntu is not more specific to me
[21:39] <WDC> {mg}: I was saying you could just make an HTML redirect command and do it like that
[21:39] <aldroid> kenden: what actually happens: 1) you have one X session, it's yours at tty7. 2) you press 'Switch User' and open a login window at tty9 (tty8 is system log). Your session at tty7 is locked and prompts for password. 3) someone else logs on tty9 and does their own work. 4) someone else uses 'Switch User'. A new login window is created at tty10 now. The tty9 and tty7 sessions are locked.
[21:39] <[eXception]> im trying to mount a vista drive
[21:39] <k31to> needhelp: both are good for different jobs, avidemux too
[21:39] <k31to> needhelp: what do you want to do?
[21:40] <{mg}> WDC: on the gateway?
[21:40] <k31to> WDC: what COMputer part?
[21:40] <aldroid> kenden: You can press Ctrl+Alt+F<number> to switch to tty<number>.
[21:40] <stefanbilde> anyone who can explain me how to emerge my kernel
[21:40] <WDC> {mg}: Yes
[21:40] <WDC> {mg}: Just wondering if you did. Small chance
[21:40] <k31to> stefanbilde: your in the ubuntu chanel that is gentoo talk
[21:40] <carandraug> [eXception]: I meant could you be more specific about the error that appear? DId you remove safely the drive that came from Vista?
[21:40] <WDC> k31to: Under places, "computer" gives an error
[21:40] <{mg}> WDC: not sure if you know, what you are talking about.
[21:41] <k31to> WDC: what error
[21:41] <WDC> {mg}: I'm sorry, a gatway. I apologize
[21:41] <[eXception]> caradraug: how to remove? vista is not booting...
[21:41] <{mg}> WDC: ok
[21:41] <WDC> gateway*
[21:41] <null1> Hello. Should I do anything after a power failure?
[21:41] <needhelp> k31to: thanks. I already know kino, but I will check out those others
[21:41] <WDC> null1: No,. Just turn on computer an let it check the disk
[21:41] <null1> Is there some type of consistency check I should perform?
[21:41] <k31to> null1: restart?
[21:41] <k31to> needhelp: lives is good too
[21:41] <orange7> Need some help here please. I have an Nvidia geforce 8600gts. Trying to turn on compiz and when it checks for Xgl it comes back as not present. Not sure how to install it. Tried in the past and ended up badly...
[21:41] <WDC> k31to: Nautilus cannot handle computer: locations.
[21:42] <aldroid> null1: restart. you'll have fsck (File System ChecK) automatically.
[21:42] <k31to> needhelp: just depends on what you need it for ;)
[21:42] <null1> k31to: Hibernation failed, and I had to power it off
[21:42] <carandraug> [eXception]: I thought your problem was that you couldn't mount a vista partition in ubuntu. That's why I said to be more specific. So it's a grub problem?
[21:42] <k31to> WDC: ouch, over my head afraid! lol
[21:42] <WDC> k31to: Me too! rawr
[21:42] <null1> aldroid: Okay, I'll touch a forced fsck to /.
[21:42] <needhelp> k31to: I just want to capture from a videocam, add some music, delete some scenes here and there, add some text and create a dvd from it
[21:42] <k31to> null1: restart it
[21:42] <null1> Anything else I can do it terms of maintenance?
[21:43] <MonthOLDpickle> can you defrag and whatnot in linux?
[21:43] <needhelp> k31to: I found no cinerella in synaptic
[21:43] <k31to> needhelp: cinellera, as for capturing depends on your hardware video4linux is a good place to start
[21:43] <null1> MonthOLDpickle: Something along those lines.
[21:43] <k31to> needhelp: no you need to head on over to getdeb to find that ;0)
[21:44] <null1> I know it's necessary in ext3. But perhaps there are caches I could clear or something.
[21:44] <[eXception]> errr... what is grub?
[21:44] <k31to> needhelp: or search google for hardy cinelerra and add a new repository
[21:44] <WDC> [eXception]: It is a multi boot selector. Tis' awesome
[21:44] <k31to> needhelp: fingers-crossed they'll add it to repos soon
[21:44] <WDC> [eXception]: poor phrasing, it asks you when you turn on computer what operating system you want
[21:44]  * k31to is outta here peace!!!!
[21:44] <carandraug> [eXception]: please explain your problem. Is your problem when you turn on the computer, Vista doesn't start?
[21:44] <WDC> k31to: See yah
[21:44] <alephant> Hi all...
[21:45] <null1> What about Gconf? I purge applications and I still see their entries in there.
[21:45] <null1> Even after locate and find, they're still in there.
[21:45] <alephant> My SATA device was named /dev/sda, removed from the system, and later reconnected.  Now its device name is sdc.  Is there a way to change its device name back to sda?
[21:45] <null1> I.e. I've deleted every file I could find containing the purged application's name.
[21:45] <orange7> Need help here please. I have an Nvidia geforce 8600gts. Trying to turn on compiz and when it checks for Xgl it comes back as not present. Not sure how to install it. Tried in the past and ended up badly...
[21:45] <null1> Gconf is a mess.
[21:46] <[eXception]> carandraug: yes it doesnt start, so I booted with ubuntu... but it says ntfs in use, not able to mount
[21:46] <carandraug> alephant: I believe it depends on where it's connected in the motherboard
[21:46] <arrrghhh> alephant, just mount in fstab with UUID and you won't have to worry about the /dev location
[21:46] <pudland> hello, how do i find if im running i386 or amd64 ubuntu?
[21:46] <[eXception]> botted with ubuntu live cd
[21:46] <djhash> alephant.. boot/grub/device.map check it out
[21:46] <null1> pudland: man uname
[21:46] <IndyGunFreak> pudland: in a terminal type "uname -a" no quotes
[21:47] <alephant> Let's stipulate that I actually do need to change the device name :-)
[21:47] <carandraug> [eXception]: grub is that menu that appears when you start the computer and that allows you to choose Ubuntu or Windows. What happens when you choose Vista in that Menu?
[21:47] <arrrghhh> alephant, you should never "need" to change the device name...
[21:47] <[eXception]> carandraug: no grub... I booted with llive cd
[21:47] <carandraug> [eXception]: so you don't have any Ubuntu installed in your computer?
[21:48] <djhash> arrrghhh: you are a right.. but unfortunately for me.. i had to.. ;..( took me 3 days to figure out that I need to do that.. :-P
[21:48] <[eXception]> no
[21:48] <pudland> indygunfreak: 2.6.24-19-generic
[21:48] <IndyGunFreak> pudland: uname -a  not uname -r
[21:48] <boobsbr> howdy, is there a way to block all outgoing or incoming traffic from/to an employee that's going through the company's router? using iptables
[21:48] <arrrghhh> djhash, que?  if you mount with UUID in fstab the /dev location doesn't matter
[21:48] <[eXception]> I just wondered what means "ntfs in use" because I started with life cd... it cant be in use
[21:48] <alephant> arrghhh: Try this on for size... /dev/md1 is comprized of /dev/sd{a,b,c}1... USB devices are plugged in as /dev/sd{d,e}... Device /dev/sdc is removed from the system, then replaced; it now has device name sdf, not sdc.  The md device does not therefore resync; I desire that the device be renamed to sdc so that the md will resync.
[21:48] <arrrghhh> boobsbr, ##linux might be a better room for that, but if you have his IP than you can just block that IP
[21:49] <djhash> arrrghhh: actually it does for grub to boot properly otherwise it'll give you the nasty error 17...
[21:49] <tamer> why wine hang up when i try to install any microsoft viisual commands
[21:49] <carandraug> [eXception]: I believe that happens when you didn't properly turn off the computer or a drive was not safely removed
[21:49] <ASULutzy> alephant, use uuid's
[21:49] <orange7> Whats xgl and why is it not present when i try to run compiz?
[21:49] <arrrghhh> alephant, once again if you mount with uuid it *shouldn't* matter.  i've never booted from a usb hdd tho.
[21:49] <boobsbr> arrrghhh, tnx mate
[21:49] <arrrghhh> !xgl
[21:49] <alephant> ASLutzy: hmm... can I change the members of an array while it's online?
[21:49] <orange7> oooo ty
[21:49] <isen> Hi
[21:50] <rr> ntfs try it with nelie smith croes
[21:50] <carandraug> alephant: switch to other place in the motherboard. That defines whether where it's hda, hdb or hdc (at least it does in mine)
[21:50] <Andril> hello all
[21:50] <arrrghhh> !hi | Andril
[21:50] <ghostlines> hey does anyone know a fix for flash videos that crash in fullscreen mode, like youtube videos for example
[21:50] <Andril> having issues with installing Ubuntu 8.04 on Dell SX270 is this machine crap?
[21:51] <carandraug> alephant: also, I've heard that can change with the some upgrades they have been doing to the kernel hence it's recommended to use UUID
[21:51] <Galaxian37> what model video card do you have?
[21:51] <LalitaDitya> hey hi
[21:51] <Galaxian37> nvidia?
[21:51] <Galaxian37> ati?
[21:51] <Andril> on board Intell
[21:51] <Galaxian37> hmmm
[21:51] <ASULutzy> alephant, I use uuids for my mdadm.conf
[21:51] <Yan1> How can I automtically reconfigure /(reinstall?) all my packages?
[21:52] <alephant> These devices are in a hot-swap bay mating to a backplane.  The drive is in the same slot as it was before.  This is *not* a physical-connection issue.
[21:52] <ASULutzy> alephant, ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=3e9201b8:fbdc6e80:d919d176:d92b132e
[21:52] <ASULutzy> alephant, that's what's in my /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[21:52] <alephant> ASULutzy: ...there are no device ids in that config...
[21:52] <Galaxian37> goto applications add/remove search video drivers make sure you have the correct driver installed, also make sure open gl is clicked on
[21:52] <Andril> anyone have a good server tutorial?
[21:52] <carandraug> alephant: I then believe that you should use UUID
[21:52] <Galaxian37> thats what fixed my prob
[21:52] <carandraug> !uuid | alephant
[21:53] <Galaxian37> it was using nvidia new drivers when i needed the old ons
[21:53] <Galaxian37> not sure about intel video on board
[21:53] <jf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is there any diffrence from 7.10 to 8.04 when doing a manual installation?
[21:53] <jf> I can't get it to work.
[21:53] <hellcattrav> Hey all of a sudden my sound stopped working
[21:53] <needhelp> How do I install deb ?
[21:53] <hellcattrav> VLC, or banshee doesn't work
[21:54] <Yan1> How can I automtically reconfigure /(reinstall?) all my packages?
[21:54] <carandraug> needhelp: sorry? What do you mean install deb?
[21:54] <needhelp> hellcattrav: gnome-volume-control, uncheck mute and turn up volume
[21:54] <hellcattrav> It worked half an hour ago but not sure why it stopped I've just been here uploading video to youtube
[21:54] <gregge> I'm trying to use vnc from my ubuntu-OS to view a guys XP-OS.. this is possible right?
[21:54] <hellcattrav> mute is unchecked
[21:54] <theneb> gregge: nope
[21:54] <hellcattrav> thats the first thing I looked for
[21:54] <theneb> gregge: Terminal services client
[21:54] <needhelp> carandraug: I get an instruction to type 'deb http://url.../', but then errors 'bash: deb; command not found'
[21:55] <djhash> gregge: yes you can
[21:55] <needhelp> hellcattrav: also checked in alsamixer ?
[21:55] <alephant> So, the answer is "no": there is nobody here who knows how to (a) change a device's /dev/ name, or (b) how to configure an md device with UUIDs.
[21:55] <gregge> WHAT? different calls?
[21:55] <hellcattrav> needhelp, don't think justthe defualt control in panel?
[21:55]  * alephant believes that the manpage will be hereafter more useful than IRC.
[21:55] <albertux> hi guys
[21:55] <hellcattrav> where is alsamixer?
[21:55] <carthik> needhelp you ought to type that line in some file, not at the command line
[21:55] <albertux> anyone knows where to get a package for pidgin 2.5 ?
[21:56] <albertux> for hardy?
[21:56] <carthik> hellcattrav, open a terminal and type that
[21:56] <Flare183> !pidge | albertux
[21:56] <needhelp> carthik: I see
[21:56] <Flare183> !gaim | albertux
[21:56] <djhash> gregge: vncviewer
[21:56] <carandraug> needhelp: you sure you got the command right? Never heard of such. Deb is the binary extension for debain based systems (like Ubuntu)
[21:56] <needhelp> hellcattrav: run alsamixer from the console
[21:56] <hellcattrav> Ok what am I looking for?
[21:56] <hellcattrav> I see soem colored boxes...
[21:57] <gregge> djhash: yes i downloaded vncviewer, and he's got the windows equivalent, but it won't start.. it should be possible though?
[21:57] <djhash> needhelp: that is not a command.. most probably it is somethnig to add to sources.list
[21:57] <phaverkamp> http://alphakamp.blogspot.com/2008/08/hardy-heron-gvfs.html
[21:57] <djhash> gregge: what exactly did you download?
[21:57] <needhelp> djhash: where in Synaptic ?
[21:58] <djhash> needhelp: just to make sure.. can you type the full text..
[21:58] <gregge> djhash: realvnc
[21:58] <djhash> gregge: in terminal type "vncviewer IP:port"
[21:58] <carandraug> needhelp: System > Administration > Synaptic package manager
[21:58] <needhelp> yes I have opened synaptic
[21:59] <djhash> needhelp: click on properties
[21:59] <needhelp> I think I got it
[21:59] <djhash> needhelp: sorry.. i meant settings>repositories
[22:00] <hellcattrav> Dammit....I wonder what made the sound stop working...?
[22:00] <needhelp> hellcattrav: those colourboxes are volumecontrols. Check that none are muted and also that none are silence
[22:00] <needhelp> hellcattrav: use arrowkeys and space and enter
[22:00] <gregge> djhash: I type it, but it "freezes"
[22:01] <Bond877> deuryte Did it work
[22:01] <djhash> gregge: what do you mean by it freezes?
[22:01] <hellcattrav> Nope
[22:01] <hellcattrav> well one was off
[22:01] <hellcattrav> but ive no way of knowing if it is usualy off or not
[22:02] <Hy71194> 1337 people :o
[22:02] <Bond877> How many test does memtest do?
[22:02] <rr> 1334
[22:02] <Biozy> hello
[22:02] <jayde_drag0n> can someone point me towards a more robust torrent client.. one that supports mutiple trackers, has the ability to edit and add trackers, and has the ability to super organize what downloads when.. like.. i get a torrent that is an entire season of a show.. and i can go in and label them 1,2,3 and so on so that episodes download in a certain order
[22:02] <rr> infinite memest
[22:02] <djhash> gregge: type 'vncviewer' in terminal and nothing else.. what do you get..
[22:03] <Bond877> Huh?
[22:03] <needhelp> hellcattrav: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsamixer
[22:03] <captainm> jayde_drag0n: deluge or rtorrent
[22:03] <Bond877> when do I know if memtest is done
[22:03] <Expl01ted> lol
[22:03] <adac> Bond877: takes a long time
[22:03] <gregge> djhash: I type vncviewer <IP_ADDRESS>:5900 and the terminal seems to start the program but nothing happens after that, so I have to use ctrl-c to close it
[22:03] <Expl01ted> bond give it a few hours.
[22:03] <gregge> djhash: It starts the program
[22:03] <arrrghhh> gregge, does the server say it's running or port 5900?
[22:03] <Biozy> gari istiyem gari... :D
[22:04] <djhash> gregge: remove the :5900
[22:04] <Bond877> Ya i'm on test 7 how many are there
[22:04] <adac> Bond877: But yes  you are right would be nice if they would show the time
[22:04] <Expl01ted> Bond877: there are like 20 of them I believe.
[22:04] <qr> I've been using 'xset dpms force on' to bring my monitor out of power save mode.  This brings it out of power save mode permenently.  Is there any way I can tell the monitor to turn on now, but turn back off after the normal amount of time has elapsed.
[22:04] <Bond877> Ok thanks
[22:04] <hellcattrav> needhelp, I turned one of em on with M key but don't know how to increase volume
[22:04] <gregge> djhash: the same happens.. I tried with an 8 instead, but it failed
[22:05] <gregge> arrrghhh: you mean on his pc?
[22:05] <djhash> gregge: sorry.. there should be 2 :
[22:05] <Trader_T> Hi, Just wondering, I just switched back to Gnome from KDE - do I need to remove all KDE apps left behind?
[22:05] <Trader_T> They still work ok, but the system does keep hanging now and then - could this be the reason?
[22:05] <rr> dont wait I run it when i go to sleep or work
[22:05] <spsneo> whenever I try to install eclipse, GNU java is automatically installed.. how can I avoid this?
[22:05] <djhash> gregge: try this "vncviewer <IP_ADDRESS>::5900"
[22:05] <arrrghhh> gregge, yes.  plus there are firewalls/routers you're going to have to punch thru if it's across the 'net.
[22:05] <needhelp> hellcattrav: arrowkeys
[22:05] <Bond877> ok
[22:05] <rconan> spsneo, with great difficulty
[22:05] <spsneo> rconan: how
[22:05] <spsneo> ?
[22:05] <hellcattrav> ok theres one that says IEC 958 and that doesn't apprently chance volume
[22:05] <djhash> gregge: there should be two : after each other..
[22:06] <rconan> spsneo, you could use the version of eclipse off the eclipse website
[22:06] <carandraug> jayde_drag0n: rtorrent. Don't know about editing trackers and you can select what downloads first inside a torrent (but only, download first, or do not download). It's really robust though and fast
[22:06] <gregge> djhash: didn't work either :/.   arrrghhh: yes, i think I may have to check up clearly it's all open
[22:06] <arrrghhh> gregge, ok sounds like it's on the local network.  on the server machine when you run the vnc server does it give you the output related to what IP it's bound to, port etc?
[22:06] <Gnea> spsneo: eclipse is a java IDE...
[22:06] <spsneo> rconan: there is no way to install eclipse from apt without gcj
[22:06] <master_> hi
[22:06] <Expl01ted> florida is getting slammed..
[22:06] <djhash> gregge: you dont have to check on router settings.. because its all internal...
[22:06] <spsneo> Gnea: I want to use sun java
[22:06] <Brucevdk> General question, how can I disallow|forbid certain users to change their set password?
[22:06] <Andril> i am in florida also
[22:07] <rconan> spsneo, i have no hard drive space issues so i installed eclipse and made it use sun java after the install, i don't believe you can make it install without gcj
[22:07] <The_ManU_212> hi
[22:07] <Lea> I'm running a 3d app, it crashes after a while, and won't restart until i reboot. strace'ing, it's looping doing ioctl calls on /dev/dri/card0 - any idea what's going on?
[22:07] <arrrghhh> Brucevdk, i think you can lock their account to prevent pw changes...
[22:07] <djhash> gregge: if your ip is 192.168.0.X and thier ip is 192.168.0.X then there is no need to change anything in the router
[22:07] <jpds> Hy71194: Please do not do that.
[22:07] <gregge> arrrghhh: yes it does I've used it.. djhash: OK :/
[22:07] <needhelp> How do I add mp3 as backgroundmusic to a Kino-project or to a certain scene?
[22:07] <qr> spsneo: go get eclipse off the eclipse web site, you can install it that way without gnu java
[22:07] <Brucevdk> arrrghhh: wouldn't locking also prevent them from logging in?
[22:07] <The_ManU_212> i want to give my prompt a color and it should be fat, i searched google but tehre are a dozen of complicated tutrials what you can change, but i only want a bit color, can you help?
[22:07] <jayde_drag0n> captainm: doesn't seem either of those suit my needs.. rtorrent is text.. bleh no.. i'm not coding to download something.. and deluge i can only set high, highest, normal and low... no i need WAAAAY more options than that.. i literally want.. download first, download second, download 3rd.. etc on and on as many as i want.. the point is i want to stop having to manualy check a file every hour or so and reset file priorities
[22:07] <master_> ı want install build-essential error
[22:07] <master_> build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev ama kurulmayacak ya da
[22:07] <master_>                              libc-dev
[22:07] <master_>                     Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) ama kurulmayacak
[22:07] <FloodBot1> master_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <gregge> djhash: sounds reasonable.... Could a restart of my pc change anything?
[22:08] <mib_eiupiq> Is kubuntu anything but ubuntu + kde (and a few different apps)?
[22:08] <djhash> gregge: type this ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:08] <arrrghhh> Brucevdk, if their account is disabled, yes.
[22:08] <spsneo> rconan: well problem is with firefox java plugin..whenever I install eclipse gnu java plugin for firefox get installed and then I am not able to view java applets in firefox.. :( any solution
[22:08] <Gnea> The_ManU_212: can you post a screenshot somewhere that underscores/circles which font, exactly, you want to change?
[22:08] <needhelp> hellcattrav: please specify my nick when calling me so I am sure to see it.... I dont know what that is. Is it disabled?
[22:08] <joaopinto> !pastebin > master_
[22:08] <arrrghhh> gregge, if it's on a local network you don't have to worry about router settings, but firewall settings yes.
[22:08] <Brucevdk> arrrghhh: according to the usermod man page locking an account changes the password to something that cannot be entered (prepends !)
[22:08] <master_> ı want install build-essential error
[22:08] <master_> build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev ama kurulmayacak ya da
[22:08] <master_>                               libc-dev
[22:08] <master_>                      Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) ama kurulmayacak
[22:08] <FloodBot1> master_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <Gnea> !pastebin | master_
[22:09] <qr> The_ManU_212: start color with \e[1;3xm where x is between 0 and 9, end color with \e[0;9m
[22:09] <needhelp> hellcattrav: cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:09] <master_> yes
[22:09] <xyblor_> how can I run xprop from a text console to get info on a running X display? When I try "DISPLAY=:0 xprop" it says "connection to :0.0 refused by server"
[22:09] <Gnea> !tr | master_
[22:09] <djhash> gregge: arrrghhh is right.. check windows firewall settings.. and check to see if realvnc server is running.. there should be an icon in the system tray
[22:09] <The_ManU_212> Gnea: no font, i use konsole (kde) and want the user@foobar$ colored and fat
[22:09] <mib_eiupiq> Is kubuntu anything but ubuntu + kde (and a few different apps)?
[22:09] <needhelp> hellcattrav: lspci | grep audio
[22:09] <The_ManU_212> qr and where to change this? the .bashrc is very big
[22:09] <jpds> mib_eiupiq: Yep.
[22:09] <mib_eiupiq> jpds: Then what?
[22:09] <Gnea> The_ManU_212: oooh okay, you want to edit your PS1 value for bashprompt then
[22:10] <Trader_T> Just wondering, I just switched back to Gnome from KDE - do I need to remove all KDE apps left behind?
[22:10] <favro> master_: in terminal    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[22:10] <needhelp> hellcattrav: aplay -i. Those commands will give you some diagnotics and confirm if your comp finds your sounddevice
[22:10] <The_ManU_212> Gnea: exactly
[22:10] <qr> The_ManU_212: you need to export PS1=somepromptstring in .bashrc
[22:10] <Gnea> !bash | The_ManU_212
[22:10] <hellcattrav> Ok
[22:10] <djhash> gregge: also.. let me know what you get when you type this in your browser "http://<IP_ADDRESS>:5900"
[22:10] <gregge> djhash: the icon is on... I'll check the firewall.. when I ping it it seems to understand there's something on the ip but I don't see anything till I close it.. it said: 44 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 43060ms
[22:10] <hellcattrav> -i is an invalid option
[22:10] <arrrghhh> djhash, curious, does vnc have a web interface?
[22:10] <The_ManU_212> qr i allready have this .bashrc and how to export?
[22:11] <Whiz2> the #kubuntu channel is dead, but I have a question maybe you can answer... If I'm running KDE, can I get away with removing any/all packages that say GNOME? (for example GNOME configuration database system)
[22:11] <linuxfce> Is there any way to have a custom command run every time a quit a certain program?
[22:11] <mib_eiupiq> jpds: what is kubuntu then more than skin and apps ?
[22:11] <djhash> arrrghhh: if you have it enabled.. its defaulted on port 5800, its a java applet..
[22:11] <joaopinto> linuxfce, run that program from a script and call the expected command after it :) ?
[22:11] <jpds> Whiz2: Remove kdelib something.
[22:11] <arrrghhh> djhash, ah.  is that new in hardy or has that been in vnc for a while?
[22:11] <qr> The_ManU_212: I mean the command is literally 'export PS1=somepromptstring' where you replace somepromptstring with the string you want for your prompt
[22:11] <acrousey> the monitor that I am using with this desktop is pretty old. I don't even see it as a choice in Screen and Graphics Preferences. However, in that, it makes my monitor. out to be Plug'n'Play, which only allows me two choices of screen resolution: 640x480 and 800x600. I remember that there is a way to get around this, but I don't remember how. Isn't it nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf? What do I do once I'm in there?
[22:11] <jpds> mib_eiupiq: Installing KDE on Ubuntu is the same as installing KDE.
[22:11] <Whiz2> jpds: doesn't that remove KDE stuff?
[22:12] <mib_eiupiq> jpds: but will ubuntu + kde = kubuntu ?
[22:12] <thesaint4444> hi guys, dir /opt is presently owned by user and group root. can I change it to my user without any problems? thanks.
[22:12] <jpds> mib_eiupiq: Yes.
[22:12] <djhash> arrrghhh: if you direct the broswer to port 5900.. it'll give you some info that'll tell you the server is running... its been in vnc for a while..
[22:12] <mib_eiupiq> k
[22:12] <jayde_drag0n> carandraug: rtorrent is text based.. i don't want to code to download.. gui only
[22:12] <jpds> Whiz2: Oh, wait that was for someone else.
[22:12] <needhelp> How do I add mp3 as backgroundmusic to a Kino-project or to a certain scene?
[22:12] <arrrghhh> mib_eiupiq, yes.  if you install the kubuntu-desktop meta-package it will take care of all that stuff.  you can have gnome and kde on the same install.
[22:12] <gregge> djhash: it just "searches" all the time... when I tried an 8 instead it gave me an error instantly
[22:12] <Gnea> thesaint4444: as long as no one else needs to use it, should be fine
[22:12] <linuxfce> joaopinto how do i call the expected command after it?
[22:12] <arrrghhh> djhash, cool thanskf or the info
[22:13] <djhash> gregge: then the xp computer is not allowing connections
[22:13] <thesaint4444> Gnea: no, just me, thanks...
[22:13] <Gnea> thesaint4444: no problem then, go for it
[22:13] <The_ManU_212> qr i like the current one with user, pc and directory, in lightblue and fat: "manolo@titanium8008:~$"
[22:13] <Trader_T> arrrghhh: will having kde and gnome apps at the same time be ok?
[22:13] <needhelp> hellcattrav: read this line by line. Perhaps it will serve you well: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[22:13] <linuxfce> i actually have a script to run the program already, so what do i add to the script to, on exit, have it run "flashcam killall"
[22:13] <djhash> arrrghhh: np
[22:13] <jpds> Whiz2: Look for a libgtk package and trying removing it.
[22:13] <The_ManU_212> qr and how to save a prompt
[22:13] <albe> ciao a tutti
[22:13] <Whiz2> Trader_T: Yes having KDE and GNOME stuff at the same tim e is perfectly fine
[22:13] <favro> linuxfce: start the prog from terminal first e.g   firefox && thunderbird - when firefox shuts thunderbird opens
[22:13] <\sia\> Arastein:
[22:14] <gregge> djhash: Ok.. I'll try to open the port if I can fins it in XP.. been a while :)
[22:14] <qr> The_ManU_212: you can find out what your prompt is now with 'echo $PS1'
[22:14] <\sia\> u r welcome Aragon
[22:14] <arrrghhh> Trader_T, they have been tryin to be more and more compatible.  depending on your hardware it shouldn't be an issue but i've had some older mobos that did not agree with any KDE app whether it was running in gnome or kde.
[22:14] <djhash> gregge: did you set a password on the XP computer?
[22:14] <\sia\> Arastein: ^^
[22:14] <Gnea> Trader_T: i run kde and gnome apps at the same time all the time, my uptime is over 45 days
[22:14] <linuxfce> so at the end of the script i would put "&& flashcam killall" ?
[22:14] <Aragon> Oo
[22:14] <favro> linuxfce: yep
[22:14] <Trader_T> arrrghhh: oh, then can;t work out why system keeps hanging for like 15 seconds
[22:14] <Aragon> ahh k
[22:14] <gregge> djhash: no.. I chose not to
[22:14] <Arastein> Thanks Mr Siamend
[22:14] <linuxfce> sweet favro thanks so much
[22:14] <albe> ho un poblema col firewall
[22:14] <favro> :)
[22:14] <Whiz2> jpds: what is that package for? I'm not going to go removing random packages
[22:14] <arrrghhh> Trader_T, hanging?  like on login?
[22:14] <Lea> I'm running a 3d app, it crashes after a while, and won't restart until i reboot. strace'ing, it's looping doing ioctl calls on /dev/dri/card0 - any idea what's going on?
[22:15] <djhash> gregge: VNC disallows any remote connections if no password is set.. you HAVE to put a password..
[22:15] <jpds> Whiz2: It's the GTK libraries, that GNOME depends on.
[22:15] <Gnea> !it | albe
[22:15] <jpds> !purekde | Whiz2
[22:15] <albe> non parte dice di controllare se la connessione e attiva
[22:15] <Gnea> !it > albe
[22:15] <jmichelsen> !puregnome
[22:15] <qr> The_ManU_212: To make your prompt light blue and bold do "export PS1='\e[1;36myourpromptstuff\e[0;9m '"
[22:15] <jmichelsen> !purekfce
[22:15] <The_ManU_212> qr ok, done and how to test a string i made?
[22:15] <jmichelsen> !purexfce
[22:15] <The_ManU_212> qr ok i try
[22:16] <jpds> !msgthebot > jmichelsen
[22:16] <qr> The_ManU_212: if you made the change in .bashrc do 'source ~/.bashrc'
[22:16] <The_ManU_212> qr i didnt mae a change in .bashrc
[22:16] <acrousey> the monitor that I am using with this desktop is pretty old. I don't even see it as a choice in Screen and Graphics Preferences. However, in that, it makes my monitor. out to be Plug'n'Play, which only allows me two choices of screen resolution: 640x480 and 800x600. I remember that there is a way to get around this, but I don't remember how. Isn't it nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf? What do I do once I'm in there?
[22:16] <toresn> how can i add vi keybindings for xpdf?
[22:16] <The_ManU_212> qr i shouldnt touch this file?
[22:17] <qr> The_ManU_212: then just run the export command I told you above
[22:17] <Whiz2> what is perl?
[22:17] <qr> The_ManU_212: .bashrc is there for you to edit, don't be shy.
[22:17] <jpds> !perl | Whiz2
[22:17] <gregge> yeah!!! I got it running when I fixed the firewall in XP.. I didn't think of it firsty cause I had in mind XP did it automatically :) Thanks so much for your help guys!
[22:17] <toresn> Whiz2: a programming language ...
[22:17] <jpds> Whiz2: Programming language.
[22:17] <jmichelsen> !yay | gregge