[04:21] <joanki123> rdw so how do i stop them then?
[04:21] <bluefox83> can anyone recommend a good samba tutorial? i'm having a terrible time getting samba to work right
[04:21] <nickrud> robf, don't escalate this, but don't put words in my mouth. I called out no one, I simply (and mean it) discuss this in -offtopic
[04:21] <tmg1|taylor> (regina sucks, btw)
[04:21] <tmg1|taylor> (uregina, too)
[04:21] <tmg1|taylor> X-722: i'm a musician
[04:21] <joanki123> rdw200169: you mean they can continue to access my machine over and over again with my information?
[04:21] <pandaking> This is what I did to install: http://en.znc.in/wiki/Installation#Source_Tarball - any ideas how to uninstall? Thanks
[04:21] <joanki123> even if i am not here at my computer?
[04:21] <rdw200169> joanki123, what do you mean?
[04:21] <joanki123> if i let someone ssh,
[04:21] <qcjn> mJoker: so thats why it's a good idea to try live cd's..You can try a couple of distro
[04:22] <joanki123> can they login when i'm not here?
[04:22] <X-722> Yes, but advertising your IP doesnt help either
[04:22] <X-722> static65-87-245-184.regina.accesscomm.ca
[04:22] <joanki123> or do i need to give them access and they can't do it again if i dont?
[04:22] <robf> it was not a discussion for offtopic,  you brought this further than anything we said, w hich consisted of "do you want it I have it here,   no I already have it [FULL STOP]. "
[04:22] <kon> BadRAM is awesome
[04:22] <tmg1|taylor> X-722: and I try to be generous---I have 100s of gigs of open source/creative commons/free software music, cultural materials and other data for download
[04:22] <nickrud> joanki123, absolutely. untlil you revoke it
[04:22] <joanki123> k
[04:22] <rdw200169> joanki123, OHH, ok, well, you can set up a quick account, then add that user to the group 'admin'
[04:22] <X-722> All of this is on the boxes that are being rooted?
[04:22] <joanki123> is there another way i can let someone see my screen then?
[04:22] <joanki123> without havig to give them access via my wireless router, which i don't have the pasword to?
[04:22] <robf> joanki123 several ways
[04:22] <mJoker> qcjn: Okay. I may do that.
[04:22] <rdw200169> joanki123, then they get sudo access, and ssh access, from a different user/pass
[04:23] <scunizi> I just loaded the server edition in a vbox vm and it won't boot normally or in recovery mode.. it complains that it has the wrong kernel and needs one with pae or some such.. any suggested solutions?
[04:23] <kon> does memtest86 v2.01 stop at any point or does it just recycle the checking process ?
[04:23] <rdw200169> joanki123, what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:23] <mJoker> qcjn: while I'm on this, Does anyone know if I can install Ubuntu from a Flash Drive?
[04:23] <tmg1|taylor> X-722: yes, all of this on boxes that have been rooted :(
[04:23] <joanki123> give someone access so he can fix something
[04:23] <X-722> What good is all of it if it gets rooted?
[04:24] <X-722> You need to start at least attempgint o hide your ip
[04:24] <tmg1|taylor> X-722: first time I've ever had this kind of problem was this week
[04:24] <rdw200169> joanki123, what are you trying to fix?
[04:24] <joanki123> my progeramming bug
[04:24] <X-722> Yes, but with this: static65-87-245-184.regina.accesscomm.ca - anyone with a few minutes can root you
[04:24] <tmg1|taylor> huh
[04:24] <X-722> At least grab a cloak man
[04:24] <qcjn> mJoker: install from a flash drive, or operating from a flash drive ??
[04:24] <kon> :P
[04:24] <mJoker> qcjn: install
[04:24] <kon> I'll ask again in a bit. I see its busy now.
[04:25] <tmg1|taylor> X-722: that last part I don't follow
[04:25] <X-722> Well, if they know your IP is static, thats a huge plus - for them. All it takes is a little time and some ingenuity, and they are inside your box
[04:25] <X-722> next think you know - all your box are belong to them
[04:25] <tmg1|taylor> X-722: from brute forcing passwords?
[04:25] <X-722> thing*
[04:25] <tmg1|taylor> or something else
[04:25] <qcjn> mJoker: i don't know ???
[04:26] <beekor> I'd like to get rid of my root account and name it something else, i think.
[04:26] <pandaking> If "make uninstall" doesn't work, what else can one try?
[04:26] <beekor> i see mostly dictionary attacks in my logs.
[04:26] <X-722> If its brute forcing pws and its happening that quickly, its someone who knows you
[04:26] <mJoker> lol oh well. Thanks anyway :P
[04:26] <X-722> and knows your pw habits
[04:27] <tmg1|taylor> pandaking: http://www.gnulinuxclub.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=315&Itemid=31 ?
[04:27] <X-722> most likely anyway - not an absolute, but it certainly seems the case
[04:27] <shelby> hey guys i need a program like windows movie maker for linux, but not kino, for some reason kino wont work for me. my dog just died and i really need to make a movie for him, if it comes down to it im going ot have to install windows just to use the movie maker, can you guys suggest something please?
[04:27] <Gnuyen> anyone else getting a segfault from pidgin on aim?
[04:27] <pandaking> thanks tmg1|taylor
[04:28] <cyphase> how in the world do i see part of the windows xp bootup screen when booting into an ubuntu live cd? the computer does have xp installed.. does it get stuck in some kind of buffer and then released later?
[04:28] <syockit> shellby: kdenlive
[04:28] <shelby> okay ill try it thanks
[04:28] <kon> does memtest86 v2.01 stop at any point or does it just recycle the checking process ?
[04:28] <GerbilSoft> cyphase: sometimes parts of VRAM aren't cleared when X is started
[04:28] <tmg1|taylor> cyphase: does it continue with the install?!
[04:28] <syockit> it's made for kde though, but you can use it anyway
[04:28] <qcjn> mJoker: because there's that, but it's not what you're really looking for ....i think ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:29] <cyphase> tmg1|taylor: ?
[04:29] <syockit> shelby: if possible, get version 0.7
[04:29] <shelby> alright
[04:29] <edju> As I update 8.04.1, will I get the fixes, etc of 8.04.2?
[04:29] <syockit> shelby: versions before that are buggy
[04:29] <tmg1|taylor> X-722: if need be I can disable ssh access...maybe find a 'cloaked' host to create a secure vpn with or something
[04:30] <Omikane> I just installed a RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01) and my conn is at 1mps and I tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853942 but the only thing that was on the page was exit0. I tried of series of variations with or without exit0 and restarted my conn and it is still at 1mps. Any ideas?
[04:30] <cyphase> GerbilSoft: so, windows boots up, somewhere along the bootup process a piece of the bootup screen gets stuck in vram, restart a bit later, boot into a live cd, and right before gdm starts up, it's released?
[04:30] <shelby> whoa! this is really nice! thanks a lot :D
[04:30] <mJoker> qcjn: actually that's exactly what I was looking for, thank you :)
[04:30] <GerbilSoft> well no, it doesn't get stuck in vram
[04:30] <jtaji> edju: yes it will be the same, the only point to release a new cd is for new installs
[04:30] <GerbilSoft> it's written to a part of vram that isn't used later
[04:30] <GerbilSoft> but the X driver sets the framebuffer to that section of VRAM at startup
[04:30] <cyphase> GerbilSoft: i didn't mean stuck as in stuck ;P
[04:30] <GerbilSoft> and it isn't cleared before the screen is enabled
[04:30] <cyphase> GerbilSoft: i see
[04:31] <cyphase> GerbilSoft: one of those ghost in the machine moments
[04:31] <GerbilSoft> yeah, kind of
[04:31] <cyphase> GerbilSoft: sort of
[04:31] <GerbilSoft> it probably would be a good idea for X to clear the framebuffer before enabling the screen
[04:31] <kon> does memtest86 fix ram problems or just report them?
[04:32] <X-722> tmg1|taylor: I would do something man, because being rooted that quickly (or at all) would suck
[04:32] <bsusa> i setup samba and i cannot see anyone on the network, i am not sure wats wrong, could someone help me please
[04:33] <Omikane> I just installed a RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01) and my conn is at 1mps and I tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853942 but the only thing that was on the page was exit0. I tried of series of variations with or without exit0 and restarted my conn and it is still at 1mps. Any ideas?
[04:33] <tmg1|taylor> X-722: best part is I have 300+ gigs of backups ...which spontaneously dissapeared this week too in the middle of the prairies.  just lost :)
[04:33] <WebGuest> what is a function called in programming when it's no longer the preferred way to do something, but it is kept around for compatibility?
[04:33] <tmg1|taylor> WebGuest: deprecated?
[04:33] <WebGuest> Thanks!
[04:33] <WebGuest> I couldn't think of it for anything.
[04:35] <Goku> hi
[04:36] <tmg1|taylor> Goku: hi
[04:36] <mindrape> herro
[04:36] <mindrape> kon: report
[04:37] <kon> mindrape: Thanks for the info.
[04:37] <kon> nice nick btw
[04:37] <mindrape> ;)
[04:37] <kon> :P
[04:37] <mindrape> :O
[04:38] <nickrud> kon, watch out he does that: does nice things for you, and then insidiously, weasles his way into your thoughts ;)
[04:38] <Omikane> I just installed a RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01) and my conn is at 1mps and I tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853942 but the only thing that was on the page was exit0. I tried of series of variations with or without exit0 and restarted my conn and it is still at 1mps. Any ideas?
[04:38] <gabriele> ciao. sto provando ad usare ubuntu , perche' con Amule mi si stacca la connessione alla rete? Grazie.
[04:38] <nickrud> !it | gabriele
[04:40] <mezquitale> which ubuntu based distribution that looks like redmond would you recommend?  I want to install it on my nieces' desktop and dual boot it with vista
[04:40] <mindrape> kubuntu has options to be as Windows-like as possible I'd say...
[04:40] <powertool08> I'm using vncviewer -via ssh to connect to x11vnc running on my desktop, whenever I switch to fullscreen mode whatever I type goes into the topmost window and not into the vnc session. Does anyone know how to stop this?
[04:40] <nickrud> yeah kubuntu is capable of looking like windows (another strike ;)
[04:41] <kon> nickrud: lmao
[04:41] <hagrch> hi.  I was trying to install kubuntu-desktop, and i get the following error: "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0105' near line 1: newline in field name `#padding'"
[04:41] <mezquitale> mindrape, true, i could install kde and then customize it to look like redmond however i want the look and feel to come with the distribution
[04:41] <tmg1|taylor> hagrch: i have had that problem before
[04:41] <tmg1|taylor> hagrch: got rid of it for a little while, but it came back.  I think there's a corrupt .deb file involved somewhere
[04:42] <mindrape> mezquitale: well if you dont want to go w an ubuntu distro but just a Windows-like Debian-based distro then hit up distrowatch.com
[04:42] <tmg1|taylor> if you find it, things might work
[04:42] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone know why compiz is messing up my keybind for Control+Esc? I can't seem to make any escape binds work with compiz on.
[04:42] <tmg1|taylor> but if you want to fix it in the meanwhile, there might be some text that you can modify in /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0105 --- search for #padding
[04:42] <tritium> mezquitale: ubuntu doesn't strive to make the look and feel like Windows, thankfully.
[04:42] <tmg1|taylor> only problem with that is that might not be the only issue
[04:42] <mezquitale> mindrape, actually i wanted an ubuntu based one however if there is another distribution that will do the trick I will be more than happy to try  it
[04:43] <nickrud> mezquitale, you can check distrowatch.org , they have descriptions of and one probably will mention it's similarity
[04:43] <tritium> mezquitale: why is the Windows look and feel important?
[04:43] <mezquitale> distrowatch.org it is!!! thank you gentlemen for your input, I am going to download a distro, try it out, then install it on my nieces' desktop and see if they ever boot up to vista again
[04:44] <nickrud> viral installations, I have to bow to your subtlety, mezquitale
[04:44] <jscinoz> Hi
[04:44] <mezquitale> tritium, because the distro is for my nieces, the older one dreads linux, the command prompt, and the file structure, the younger one is too young to care and hates not being able to enjoy all the appz in linux
[04:45] <tritium> mezquitale: as you wish, but in my mind that's a very constraining limitation
[04:45] <mindrape> mezquitale - I recommend sticking w regular good ol' fashioned Ubuntu then install VMWare Player and get a WinXP (avoid Vista pl0x kthx) VM and enjoy never having to fuss with virus or spyware cleanup again (just re-initiate a clean image)
[04:46] <bsusa> can someone please help me  with this samba problem
[04:46] <bsusa> i setup samba and i cannot see anyone on the network, i am not sure wats wrong, could someone help me please
[04:46] <tmg1|taylor> mindrape: that's what I'm here mostly for
[04:46] <mindrape> tmg1|taylor: you got a Linux virus, eh?
[04:46] <tmg1|taylor> yep
[04:46] <mindrape> your installation media is probably rootkit'd  :(
[04:46] <jscinoz> I'm trying to set up a transparent caching squid proxy, but i cant get it to work. It works if i explicitly set the proxy in the browser, but i cant get it to work transparently, i assume i have made a mistake in my iptables, is this correct: http://pastebin.com/f7ee2382d ?
[04:46] <tmg1|taylor> mindrape: nah, guessable password
[04:46] <mezquitale> tritium, if they see something they're familiar with they will try it, once theyre hooked most likely they will want to harness the full power of linux and will ask for more, but you have to begin somewhere
[04:46] <mindrape> lol... was it... password?
[04:46] <tmg1|taylor> and X-722 has some suggestions as to why as well
[04:47] <tmg1|taylor> mindrape: nah but not that much more complex
[04:47] <tritium> mezquitale: I understand why you're doing it, yes.
[04:47] <tmg1|taylor> mindrape: the surprising part to me was how long it took, less than 2 days
[04:47] <kon> whats the avg. run time for a 2GB ddr2 memtest86 ?
[04:47] <kon> its going on 54minutes now
[04:47] <kon> is this normal ?
[04:47] <nickrud> kon, I let them run overnight
[04:47] <tmg1|taylor> if it takes less than 2 days to root a ubuntu system of any kind it's no longer the case that windows has any inate ability to be 'free of viruses'
[04:47] <mindrape> tmg1|taylor: well I recommend you make your password something a bit more complicated... like take the first letter of each word for a sentence that is easy to remember  "I drive down Interstate 5 every day to get to my Crazy job"   IddI5edtgtmCj
[04:48] <kon> Oh, wow
[04:48] <mezquitale> mindrape,  i have a better idea, start with a linux distro that looks like redmond, get hooked, get another linux distro that is completely linux--never boot up to redmond again unless there is an app or hardware that is not supported in linux
[04:48] <kon> i dont think this lappy can make it if its running over night
[04:48] <joeyjones> interesting, my ubuntu cd iso was only 474mb.
[04:48] <jscinoz> kon, yeah it can take several hours sometimes
[04:48] <kon> Oh i see
[04:48] <tmg1|taylor> mindrape: oh definitely, if I continue to allow passwords/ssh at all.  The problem for me came when my keyboard was incapable of typing properly and hence required a shorter password.  But still---it is now only a matter of time
[04:48] <kon> That sucks
[04:49] <tritium> joeyjones: is it an alternate CD?
[04:49] <tmg1|taylor> i mean, my main passwords are fairly good.  But it's the weakest link in the chain that breaks ;)
[04:49] <Brack10> #wine is +i?
[04:49] <nickrud> Brack10, try #winehq
[04:49] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Tried to get into home folder or root of my usb thumb drive using Terminal - used " sudo /dev/sdb " but getting error " command not found " - Someone give me the right script I need to use ? ?
[04:49] <mindrape> tmg1|taylor: well you can setup rulesets to disallow easy to guess passwords... to stop yourself from exposing yourself.  (mind blown?)
[04:50] <kon> will memtest tell me exactly what part of the ram is bad? I want to do the BadRAM "mem=##MB" kernel option to temporarily disable memory above that point
[04:50] <joeyjones> tritium: nope
[04:50] <tmg1|taylor> mindrape: i hate rulesets---they often do not allow english words despiteyour example
[04:50] <Flannel> tmg1|taylor: If you refuse to choose a decent password, you have no right to complain.  It's not a "security issue" with Ubuntu.  Another thing you may want to look into is DenyHosts, which may thrwart anyone brute forcing.
[04:50] <joeyjones> but it booted to the first screen successfuly
[04:50] <joeyjones> then took over an hour before i closed it running the cd check
[04:50] <mindrape> ah, wise are the words of Flannel.  :)
[04:50] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, a couple things wrong there:  you would cd  into the dir, and it should be a directory under /media (dev/sdb is the raw device) . so cd /media/<somename>
[04:51] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, the <somename> is the name you see on the desktop
[04:51] <tmg1|taylor> Flannel: I'll grant that for my specific situation I am at fault and no amount of ubuntu side help will fix that
[04:51] <tmg1|taylor> but 2 days
[04:52] <Flannel> tmg1|taylor: "two days" for what?  For someone to brute force?  I don't understand what you're getting at.
[04:52] <tmg1|taylor> two days for a randomly connected box with a vulnerability to be exploited
[04:52] <tmg1|taylor> if that, maybe less
[04:52] <Flannel> tmg1|taylor: "vulnerability"?
[04:52] <tmg1|taylor> that is windows-level speed of attackers
[04:52] <GerbilSoft> took a month for a friend of mi-ne--
[04:52] <GerbilSoft> *minus the -s
[04:52] <Flannel> tmg1|taylor: So... your point is "The internet is dangerous"? or what?
[04:52] <GerbilSoft> i set up an ubuntu box as a media system
[04:52] <tmg1|taylor> it means there are sufficient quality/quantity of motivated and technically apt threats that your ubuntu system as well as mine is no longer as safe as it was
[04:52] <nite_johnboy> nicrud; Ah - so my cop. name is " newlife" - so would be - " cd /media/newlife " - correct?
[04:52] <tmg1|taylor> Flannel: particularly for ubuntu users
[04:52] <GerbilSoft> he insisted that the username and password should both be his name
[04:53] <GerbilSoft> a month later he got pwned
[04:53] <tritium> tmg1|taylor: your problem is not ubuntu-related, but password-related
[04:53] <GerbilSoft> (he also insisted on setting up ssh with it)
[04:53] <mindrape> tmg1|taylor: if you had ANY operating system w an easy to guess password you'd be hacked.
[04:53] <tmg1|taylor> tritium: that may very well be the case but in case you've noticed a lot of ubuntu supported tools utilize passwords;)
[04:53] <tritium> tmg1|taylor: and?
[04:53] <Flannel> tmg1|taylor: Uh.... People who brute force don't target particular system types.  Your box is [a box on the internet that asks me for a password], not "A Ubuntu Box" or anything else.
[04:53] <tritium> Pick strong passwords!
[04:53] <mindrape> tmg1|taylor: ie; if I had a mainframe connected to the interbutts and you guessed the password for some user with SYSTEM SPECIAL authority you'd own the sysplex... and this is shocking to you?
[04:54] <nickrud> tmg1|taylor, no system has ever been secure since the net started. Philosophical discussions about security belong on #ubuntu-offtopic, specific instructions on basic security is fine here
[04:54] <greg_stevens> Hello, I'm having a really hard time finding a laptop with ubuntu preinstalled, or even one with no os at all. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would really prefer not to pay for windows.
[04:54] <tmg1|taylor> Flannel: true
[04:54] <tritium> greg_stevens: Dell or system76.com
[04:54] <tmg1|taylor> nickrud: k
[04:54] <nite_johnboy> nicrud; Tried that command and got following " bash: cd: /media/newlife: No such file or directory "
[04:55] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, are you sure you got the case correct?
[04:55] <Souper> i suppose everyone here has seen the news story about that nimrod who bought a laptop pre-installed with ubuntu and was like "OMG! I don't understand any of this!"
[04:56] <nite_johnboy> nickrud; using lower case for all text omn terminal.
[04:56] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, ok. Is the name on the desktop all lowercase?
[04:56] <nite_johnboy> ! in terminal
[04:56] <jscinoz> I'm trying to set up a transparent caching squid proxy, but i cant get it to work. It works if i explicitly set the proxy in the browser, but i cant get it to work transparently, i assume i have made a mistake in my iptables, is this correct: http://pastebin.com/f7ee2382d ? can anyone help me?
[04:56] <nite_johnboy> nickrud; yes
[04:56] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, you can also do    ls /media   to see what name dir name it's using
[04:57] <kon> ok enough bothering you guys
[04:57] <kon> Thanks for the help, i might be back tomorrow :P
[04:57] <kon> Cya, time to watch some 30 rock ;)
[04:57] <broomhandle> hey i've been dual booting windows and ubuntu, today ubuntu was updating and froze so i had to force restart, and now when i choose the ubuntu option upon start up it takes me to a grub4dos command line that ends in grub>    any ideas how i can fix this?
[04:57] <pandaking> Why would a package be outdated in the packet manager, and the developers website recomend to install from source?
[04:57] <pandaking> *package manager
[04:57] <nite_johnboy> nickrud; ok will do - just a sec
[04:59] <nite_johnboy> nickrud; I'm not running terminal as root - does that matter - I got same error - " No such file or directory "
[05:00] <SJrX> Anyone else find compiz really buggy in 8.10?
[05:00] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, hm.  no, no need to run as root.   ls  /media    says no such file or directory?
[05:00] <mylisto> ok...going to try getting my camera working again in skype
[05:00] <nite_johnboy> my terminal says at prompt - newlife@newlife-destop:~
[05:00] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, and you say you have a usb stick installed that you're trying to read?
[05:01] <mezquitale> anyone knows of an  mp3 player app  like amarok but for GNOME, i want to be able to create playlists and burn them and with a nice GUI like amarok but I want the app for GNOME
[05:01] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, I missed a line I think, you mispelled my nick. you're trying to find your home dir? I think we should start over, get on the same page :)
[05:01] <Souper> dammit i forgot the name of that one
[05:01] <CoUrPsE]DeAd> mezquitale, amarok is for gnome.
[05:02] <nite_johnboy> nickrud; ok this time i cut & paste what you posted earlier and now have following - cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  NEW VOLUME -
[05:02] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, ok, cd /media/NE<tab>  <-- press the tab key, it will fill out the name for you Uppercase matters
[05:02] <mezquitale> CoUrPsE]DeAd, my apologies for my ignorance, i thought amarok was for KDE?  why are all the KDE modules loaded with amarok then???
[05:03] <snarkster> can anyone assist with with atheros 242x
[05:03] <CoUrPsE]DeAd> mezquitale, Works on both... sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:03] <Cpudan80> snarkster: what about it?
[05:03] <CoUrPsE]DeAd> im running amarok as we speak...
[05:03] <snarkster> Cpudan80: I cant get mine to work
[05:03] <Souper> mezquitale, it works with both it's just that in gnome you get all the kdelibs that you might not want
[05:03] <Cpudan80> snarkster: what are you connecting to?
[05:03] <mezquitale> CoUrPsE]DeAd, ahhh yes, amarok ***works*** on gnome but is not specifically for GNOME, I meant an mp3 player app specifically for GNOME
[05:04] <Souper> mezquitale, like this? http://www.listen-project.org/
[05:04] <Cpudan80> snarkster: Or well - first check to make sure the driver is enabled under restricted drivers (system --> admin --> restricted drivers)
[05:04] <promet> yyyyyyello
[05:04] <CoUrPsE]DeAd> mezquitale, Ahh sorry, rhythmbox is on gnome by default, works nicely.
[05:04] <Souper> there's another one that i really like but i forgot what it was called
[05:04] <mezquitale> Souper, yes!!!!!!!! that looks exactly like what I want, im going to take a look at it, thanks!
[05:04] <Souper> starts with an e i think
[05:04] <nite_johnboy> nickrud; ok getting somewhere now - have following - " newlife@newlife-desktop:/media/NEW VOLUME$ "
[05:05] <Souper> no problem mezquitale
[05:05] <mezquitale> CoUrPsE]DeAd, I have ubuntustudio, Ill look up rhythmbox, thanks for the info
[05:05] <promet> After going to heck and back with my onboard sound chip, I've reverted to an Old Soundblaster Live card I had laying around, I fear somehow this has caused some sound module confusion, has anyone had any experience with this?
[05:05] <CoUrPsE]DeAd> mezquitale, np.
[05:06] <veritos> I have a Lenovo 3000 G530. On the 32-bit LiveCD, everything works perfectly. On the 64-bit, the keyboard and touchpad do not work (but an external USB keyboard and mouse do).
[05:06] <nite_johnboy> nickrud; So now I'm in the root - so what is script to list directories or folders ?
[05:06] <nickrud> nite_johnboy,  ls  lists the files
[05:06] <nickrud> !terminal | nite_johnboy (has some basic commands)
[05:08] <shelby> can someone PLEASE tell me how to play audio along with a slideshow in kdenlive?
[05:08] <shelby> im an avid linux user but i think im going to have to install windows just to use windows movie maker :(
[05:08] <broomhandle> hey when starting ubuntu it takes me to a prompt that says grub>    does anyone know how to get past this and start ubuntu?
[05:08] <Dolo> can u write to a mac hd from ubuntu
[05:09] <shelby> shit. whatever. im sick of fucking with linux and its crippled simple slideshow creators. i love linux but i completely agree it cant do anything when it comes to editing multimedia.
[05:09] <tritium> shelby: Watch your language!!!
[05:10] <MethinX> how do you get your screen resolution to stay at 1152x864
[05:10] <mindrape> MethinX: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:10] <MethinX> I did that mindrape
[05:10] <MethinX> its not saveing when I reboot
[05:10] <mindrape> pastebin your xorg.conf    did you set it as the default or just an option?
[05:10] <scunizi> looking at man tar I see for the top three examples there are two (2) "v" 's in the line.. "v" is verbose but why 2 of them?
[05:11] <MethinX> lol  not sure i think an option
[05:11] <nite_johnboy> nickrud; Thanks so much - really like using Ibex but trying to get up to speed with using terminal & some of basics that just came easier using windows - but do not mind - will be far better rewards in the long haul ....
[05:11] <scunizi> yes but for what?
[05:11] <promet> shelby, have you tried "Kino"?
[05:11] <beekor> yeah that's a good questions scunizi.  i usually just use 1 v, and i think it all works fine
[05:12] <nickrud> nite_johnboy, absolutely. Whenever you have questions about commands, man <command> will tell you a lot. You might find tldp.org a good site to check out. And, of course, people will be glad to help teach you here.
[05:12] <nite_johnboy> nickrud; running linux about 90% of the time and will soon not have any need to even turn on my windows box anymore - looking forward to it.
[05:12] <scunizi> beekor, maybe it just wants to be "extra" verbose.. that would make the output similar to a chatterbox :)
[05:13] <veritos> I have a Lenovo 3000 G530. On the 32-bit LiveCD, everything works perfectly. On the 64-bit, the keyboard and touchpad do not work (but an external USB keyboard and mouse do).
[05:14] <adnan> what is the point of ClamAV or AVG Antivirus if they don't actually remove the virus file?
[05:14] <Souper> hmm trying to upgrade to current from 8.04 beta disc all packages downloaded, stuck at 0% prepare for a while now
[05:14] <decay> How can i make to a script doesn't have to be run as root? i installed hddtemp but it'd like to be able to run it as not root
[05:14] <scunizi> adnan, avg should
[05:14] <beekor> AVG usually isolates the virus somewhere, or at least it used to.  it'd claim that some cant be removed
[05:14] <adnan> scunizi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus/Avg
[05:15] <adnan> scunizi, it cannot
[05:15] <beekor> ha, i was thinking windows, i didnt even know avg had a linux port.
[05:15] <beekor> i'd like to think that it's not needed.
[05:15] <beekor> not sure if that's true though.
[05:15] <nite_johnboy> nickud; Have had others in here help me before as well - really helps to have a point in the right direction - really kinda fry's me when I see some people complain - everyone in here is a great help - thanks for tips and one of these days I'll be able to offer help to some other guy scratching his head...
[05:15] <veritos> beekor: Run anything shady in a guest account.
[05:15] <adnan> beekor, you can never be too sure
[05:16] <veritos> I have a Lenovo 3000 G530. On the 32-bit LiveCD, everything works perfectly. On the 64-bit, the keyboard and touchpad do not work (but an external USB keyboard and mouse do). Anyone else seen similar?
[05:17] <c_webkit> Hi
[05:17] <c_webkit> nickrud: u der
[05:17] <Dolo> anyone here know bout mounting a mac drive?
[05:17] <nickrud> c_webkit, hi. Sorta here, what's up?
[05:17] <c_webkit> i tried to install Ubuntu again
[05:17] <c_webkit> I think i found the problem
[05:18] <c_webkit> Could i be tht all the drives are primary it was causing the problem
[05:18] <c_webkit> it*
[05:18] <nickrud> c_webkit, don't know, I've never tried setting all the jumpers as primary:)
[05:18] <c_webkit> hmm .. well the current senario is
[05:18] <scunizi> nickrud, maybe he mean in creation of the partitions being primary
[05:18] <c_webkit> nickrud: Now i got 4 partitions
[05:18] <promet_> I think I may have some conflicting sound modules, could anyone offer some advice?
[05:19] <nickrud> scunizi, ah, good read. c_webkit yeah, 4 primaries is ok.
[05:19] <promet_> I switched from onboard to Soundblaster sound and the sound system may be confused
[05:19] <c_webkit> scunizi: yes actually all 4 drives were primary previously since it had only one OS.. now i want 3.. so when i installed other one it didnt work
[05:19] <Souper> i've had problems with multiple primares
[05:20] <c_webkit> nickrud: Now there is only one primary
[05:20] <c_webkit> and the other is Extended
[05:20] <Souper> i don't know why you wouldn't just set them all to cable-select
[05:20] <c_webkit> so.. on the extended there is Win XP
[05:20] <c_webkit> and primary Win98
[05:20] <c_webkit> both are working properly
[05:20] <promet_> ?
[05:20] <burton> anybody can help me with incoming outgoing server for hotmail tnx
[05:20] <promet_> ...
[05:21] <c_webkit> nickrud: My Q is .. the extended partition has 3 sub partitions one is unallocated The first one has winxp the second is for Data.. (backup) drive and the third partition which i want for Ubuntu is unallocated .. can i format it via ext3 and can i install ubuntu on tht partition
[05:21] <nickrud> c_webkit, you mean, you have a primary partition with win98 (wow!) an extended, and a logical partition in the extended with xp?
[05:21] <promet_> burton, I think that you have to use their pay service in order to get server details for Hotmail
[05:21] <c_webkit> yes
[05:21] <nickrud> c_webkit, yes
[05:22] <adnan> what is the most popular Linux antivirus
[05:22] <promet_> Free hotmail doesn't allow smtp/pop server info for free accounts
[05:22] <promet_> I believe
[05:22] <c_webkit> can i make a separate partition of tht for home via tht
[05:22] <promet_> burton, if that's what you were asking...
[05:22] <c_webkit> so tht if Ubuntu corrupts.. the home folder is separate
[05:22] <c_webkit> and how much Disk space is requred for Ubuntu
[05:22] <c_webkit> 8.10
[05:22] <scunizi> c_webkit, having multiple drives installed typically means that when you install grub gets confused as to where things are and puts itself on the wrong drive.. then you need to reinstall grub.. it's really good at that when you have a mix of drives .. SATA and ide ... re: nickrud
[05:23] <burton> Welcome response error: Operation now in progress
[05:23] <burton> i got <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:23] <nickrud> c_webkit, a good idea. About 15gb for root is all you need. Use the rest for /home. Less for root if the partition is relatively small, but not less than 7gb
[05:23] <Souper> adnan, clamav
[05:23] <Souper> afaik
[05:23] <burton> gives me Welcome response error: Operation now in progress
[05:24] <nickrud> scunizi, yeah, I've had nothing but trouble with mixed sata pata. Do you know a good exposition or howto?
[05:24] <c_webkit> I got around 20GB
[05:24] <c_webkit> 22*
[05:25] <atomx1211> is it possible to install .net framework on wine?
[05:25] <nickrud> c_webkit, hm, 8gb root I'd suggest. That gives you decent room
[05:25] <c_webkit> one more thing .. home is like just for u right.. if u install stuff in Ubuntu viz. Realplayer etc.. would it occupy the space on home or root
[05:25] <nickrud> c_webkit, root
[05:25] <c_webkit> ok
[05:26] <scunizi> nickrud, what I did was yank the connector on the drives that I wasn't installing to and then do the installation.. after I reconnected and reinstalled grub where I thought it should be.. if that didn't work I just installed grub to all the drives.. good for backup that way too.
[05:26] <Souper> home is where personal settings and data are stored
[05:26] <c_webkit> and is there a way i can see an .ext3 drive in win98 and xp
[05:26] <nickrud> c_webkit, I've seldom gone over 8gb in software in root; I like extra room for databases or compiling kernels (not much of that anymore)
[05:26] <c_webkit> I'll go for 20 GB root
[05:26] <c_webkit> and the remaining 2 GB for home
[05:26] <Souper> c_webkit, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[05:27] <nickrud> scunizi, heh. the last guy I tried to help was over the phone, and he's (to be kind) utterly clueless. that's over his head :)
[05:27] <scunizi> c_webkit, that's just WAY too much.. 15 max
[05:27] <c_webkit> ok
[05:27] <adnan> Souper, what about avast?
[05:27] <nickrud> c_webkit, no no no make room for your files they take more space than software unlike windows
[05:27] <c_webkit> hmm
[05:27] <c_webkit> ok the 7 GB home
[05:27] <decay> why is GNU's mascot so ugly?
[05:27] <c_webkit> and 15 GB root
[05:27] <c_webkit> hows tht sound
[05:27] <Souper> adnan, they're both fine, i just hear of more people using clam
[05:28] <adnan> well clamAV, unlike other antivirus, is open source
[05:28] <nickrud> c_webkit, it'll work, leaving 7gb for home and say 1gb for swap. I'd drop root to 10 at least and increase home myself
[05:28] <c_webkit> I have an additional 20 GB FAT32 drive.. so i can use tht as an "extended" drive
[05:28] <adnan> having closedsource antivirus software defeats the purpose, in my opinion that is
[05:28] <adnan> Souper, thnx
[05:28] <c_webkit> 1gb is sufficient for swap
[05:29] <c_webkit> also i am not quite familiar with the swap feature
[05:29] <Souper> np
[05:29] <promet_> What choo talkin' bout decay!? The GNU Gnu is gorgeous
[05:29] <nickrud> c_webkit, the fat is ok for backup space only, really.
[05:29] <scunizi> nickrud, yea  .. I've been there.. I've got a friend/neighbor that I've been telling about ubuntu.. I've reinstalled windows for him 3 times after something got in there and reallly borked things up.. today I put ubuntu on the machine and tried to move all of thunderbirds mbox info over to recoop his email and settings.. well the settings worked but not much of the email came across.  Back over there tom
[05:29] <scunizi> orrow
[05:29] <c_webkit> yes
[05:29] <c_webkit> thts true
[05:29] <nickrud> scunizi, ah, well, that's why my mail is on an imap server 'out there'
[05:30] <c_webkit> I want it for backup only.. cause there is a problem.. 98 xp and u2 are all different drives Fat32 NTFS and ext3
[05:30] <c_webkit> so i got Fat32 as backup as it will work will all.. otherwise 98 wont recognize ntfs.. no idea of ext3
[05:31] <nickrud> c_webkit, you can get a driver from fs-driver.org so xp can read ext3
[05:31] <c_webkit> ok doing that
[05:31] <promet_> Could someone help me with a little Intrepid sound troubleshooting please?
[05:31] <nickrud> c_webkit, ok, I gotta get back to my chores here, take care
[05:31] <c_webkit> can u tell me whats a swap ??  and y we need it
[05:31] <Geoffrey2> is there either a graphical application or command line option to get a directory list that shows the total amount of space that folder is taking up?
[05:31] <c_webkit> ok see you later nickrud,
[05:32] <bruce_> c_webkit
[05:32] <c_webkit> yes bruce
[05:32] <bruce_> swap is like memory
[05:32] <c_webkit> yes.. but y is it required
[05:32] <MeVsTheVoices> Extra memory, long term ram
[05:32] <bruce_> you can think of it as secondary memory
[05:32] <bruce_> there are many articles online that talks about it
[05:33] <c_webkit> bruce_: y is it required.. and how much memory should i allocate it
[05:33] <bruce_> u can just google it and I'm sure you will find a lot
[05:33] <mindrape> Geoffrey2: du -h  (disk usage)  you can throw on --max-depth 1
[05:33] <MeVsTheVoices> Its not required no
[05:33] <c_webkit> ok thanks
[05:33] <bruce_> you should allocate like twice your physical memory
[05:33] <scunizi> c_webkit, swap should be 1.5x of your ram if you're going to use hybernate and sleep
[05:33] <bruce_> for mine
[05:33] <MeVsTheVoices> But ubuntu will allocate *really depends* about 7gig, normally about RAM for current day machines
[05:33] <c_webkit> hmm
[05:33] <MeVsTheVoices> Also on your driver *duh*
[05:33] <scunizi> c_webkit, otherwise 1 gig works fine
[05:34] <bruce_> I have 4GB ram, I use 4GB swap coz I think that's big enough
[05:34] <MeVsTheVoices> Fiddle with it, you'll find for most tasks it really won't make no nevermind
[05:34] <Bsims> I am trying to update my apt list for KDE Nightly neon I have the correct key installed but I still get W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 778978B00F7992B0; anyone have a clue what I need to do
[05:35] <M> Hai !!!!!!!!
[05:35] <Shakedown> How come the vimtutor doesn't do anything when I run it?
[05:35] <rdw200169> bruce_ yeah i have on 2GB of ram, and rarely does my system use swap, mostly after running for (seriously) a week or so, then i run a ram intensive app like a graphics tool, then it uses the swap
[05:35] <_Vi_> Shakedown: just keep pressing j or page down
[05:36] <rdw200169> bruce_ but mostly that's because linux tries to offload as much as it can to the ram to make the system run nice and quick
[05:36]  * mindrape has the same story as rdw200169 but with 1.5gig of RAM.
[05:36] <Shakedown> Nothing, it says "/tmp/tutorfJ6562" 0 lines, 0 characters at the bottom though
[05:36] <tmg1|taylor> adnan: clamav does have a 'remove' option
[05:36] <_Vi_> Shakedown: its just a online text file,
[05:36] <tmg1|taylor> however, it doesn't reccommend it and for good reason --even on windows removing files haphazardly is dangerous to system health
[05:37] <bruce_> nick
[05:37] <Shakedown> I just got the vim-runtime package, I want to do the tutorial!
[05:37] <duanedesign> Bsims: I just had to "update" my key I am not sure if they updated it or what  http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x778978B00F7992B0
[05:37] <tmg1|taylor> but otoh, then you get stuck like I am, with a compromised part of the system that is not clear how to fix
[05:37] <_Vi_> Shakedown: that is the tutorial lol
[05:37] <Shakedown> A blank screen?
[05:37] <mindrape> tmg1|taylor: with any compromised system your best bet is a WIPE AND START FRESH.
[05:37] <rdw200169> bruce_, many times, i shut off the swap to keep the graphics app quick, it doesn't cause problems, the kernel just clears out the cruft and uses the ram instead
[05:37] <_Vi_> its blank  ?!
[05:37] <Bsims> duanedesign: I'll try that
[05:37] <bruce_> ok
[05:37] <tmg1|taylor> mindrape: that will mean buying new hardware at this point and I'd like to at least try to avoid that ;)
[05:38] <Shakedown> So maybe I'm confusing vim with emacs, but one of them has an "interactive" tutorial built-in. I thought that was the vimtutor though?
[05:38] <mindrape> new hardware for a reinstall?
[05:38] <tmg1|taylor> yes
[05:38] <rdw200169> bruce_ b/c ubuntu only needs about 500M to run, the rest just makes it quicker ;)
[05:38] <_Vi_> Shakedown: hang on let me see if i get the same problems.. one sec
[05:38] <rdw200169> bruce_ and my ram is significantly faster than my swap, so I prefer the ram at all costs ;)
[05:38] <tmg1|taylor> i stupidly trusted ubuntu default installer's partition setup, now my mostly full hd is full
[05:38] <tmg1|taylor> and only one partition
[05:38] <MeVsTheVoices> Ubuntu runs on 384m of ram
[05:39] <bruce_> i see
[05:39] <bruce_> thanks for the info
[05:39] <bruce_> I need help on developing IRC client
[05:39] <tmg1|taylor> otoh I didn't really know what to expect for a ubuntu install so underguessing partitionwise might have been painful down the road too
[05:39] <DarkTerror> hello... does kubuntu support wireless connections better and easier (interface and installation wise) THAN ubuntu ? (both last versions)
[05:39] <mindrape> bruce_: head on over to #yourprogramminglanguageofchoice
[05:39] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, i was just using a random number i would know would be correct; that and no one installs 384M of ram, usually 512M that's how i came up w/the number
[05:39] <bruce_> thanks
[05:40] <_Vi_> Shakedown: hmmm what command are you using exactly for that ?
[05:40] <Shakedown> vimtutor
[05:40] <_Vi_> ah mine comes up as text
[05:40] <MeVsTheVoices> 256+128 thats how I came up with that, satisfy
[05:40] <Shakedown> So...is there this interactive tutorial for vim?
[05:40] <M> Hai !!!!!!!
[05:41] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, well, to be quite literal, i successfully installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a system w/128M of ram, and it ran like garbage
[05:41] <Bsims> Anyone know if there will be unofficial kde3 packages for jaunty? I am sorry but kde4 gives me hives
[05:41] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, it was a very very old laptop, i ended up going w/Vector Linux
[05:41] <tmg1|taylor> mindrape: to reiterate---my virus problem is my fault, in case I'm not making that clear
[05:41] <MeVsTheVoices> Oh I'm not saying it doesn't run like shit, 384 is enough to hold kernel, Gnome, and 2-3 apps Max
[05:41] <DarkTerror> hello... does kubuntu support wireless connections better and easier (interface and installation wise) THAN ubuntu ? (both last versions)
[05:41] <mindrape> tmg1|taylor: on multiple fronts, yes...
[05:41] <_Vi_> Shakedown: vimtutuor is interactive, but all it is a online (not online as web) text file, it kinda looks like a man page, that's it. nothing too fancy
[05:41] <M> Hai !!!!!!!!
[05:42] <mindrape> M - can I help you?
[05:42] <Bsims> rdw200169: what gui do you use?
[05:42] <M> y
[05:42] <MeVsTheVoices> DarkTerror: No
[05:42] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, so let's agree that 500M would be enough to run well?
[05:42] <rdw200169> Bsims, what do you mean?
[05:42] <DarkTerror> thank you
[05:42] <Shakedown> _Vi_: So...why is my vimtutor page blank?
[05:42] <rdw200169> Bsims, that install i was referring to was a normal Gnome install
[05:42] <MeVsTheVoices> rdw200169: No, 384 is enough to run well, it really doesn't matter, almost everyone nowadays is going to have more
[05:42] <Bsims> rdw200169: Ah if you want something lighter try lxde its quite nice
[05:42] <Veritas718> hey favorite music programs that support ipod touch v2? and best support for stl editing? (sorry for second question :P)
[05:43] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, thank you for pointing out the obvious ;)
[05:43] <mindrape> DarkTerror: they are both ubuntu just one uses gnome and one uses kde... so I'd say the support is about the same unless you prefer the KDE apps for network management over Gnome ones... ?
[05:43] <rdw200169> Bsims, yeah, i tried all that, i.e. Xubuntu, etc...
[05:43] <_Vi_> Shakedown: run 'dpkg -l *vim*' in a terminal, pastebin the results
[05:43] <rdw200169> Bsims, but getting inside that '128M' windows is pretty hard
[05:43] <MeVsTheVoices> Eww
[05:43] <Shakedown> _Vi_: pastebin?
[05:43] <adnan> tmg1|taylor,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus/Avg
[05:43] <mindrape> !pastebin
[05:43] <rdw200169> Bsims, instead of spending hours getting there, i just went w/Vector linux, which support 64M of ram
[05:43] <tmg1|taylor> adnan: thanks
[05:44] <Bsims> rdw200169: /me nods fair enough ever try wmaker it's a fave of mine
[05:44] <adnan> tmg1|taylor, i think the remove option must be a windows exclusi
[05:44] <adnan> tmg1|taylor, np
[05:44] <_Vi_> mindrape: i think he was talking to me but ty :)
[05:44] <DarkTerror> mindrape: yea .. i knew that it's just ubuntu with KDE... but heard some rumors that ubuntu would suck at wireless .. but problem solved now :), installing ubuntu
[05:44] <Scheduler> Shadowpillar dpkg -l *vim* > info.txt
[05:44] <bruce_> hey
[05:44] <Geoffrey2> mindrape, thanks...that works...
[05:44] <bruce_> did you guys know vi is the center of evil?
[05:44] <mindrape> DarkTerror: it all depends on the card you have... some chipsets have better support than others.
[05:44] <rdw200169> Bsims, this was not my computer, i was trying to get a friend back on the internet after Windows Pro crashed
[05:44] <Shadowpillar> eh?
[05:44] <mindrape> Geoffrey2: np
[05:45] <rdw200169> Bsims, and he was not a linux guy ;)
[05:45] <_Vi_> Shadowpillar: he meant Shakedown not you
[05:45] <Bsims> bruce_: heh Vim for ever
[05:45] <DarkTerror> thx for your help, mindrape
[05:45] <Bsims> rdw200169: Heh I can see dat
[05:45] <rdw200169> bruce_ i beg to differ sir, i use Vim all day long
[05:45] <_Vi_> too many shadows in here
[05:45] <_Vi_> :)
[05:45] <c_webkit> user9: Hi.. Are you new to the workd of computers also :)
[05:45] <Scheduler> yes _Vi_
[05:45] <mindrape> DarkTerror: mine works by default out of the box flawlessly... I help about 10 people a day in here though w wireless problems...
[05:45] <bruce_> hahaha
[05:45] <newfedora10> Hi anyone who knows how to convert .flv to mpeg2
[05:45] <DarkTerror> :)
[05:45] <bruce_> you guys don't get it?
[05:45]  * Bsims grins and says Esc Alt Meta Ctrl Shift
[05:45] <bruce_> it's a joke
[05:45] <mindrape> newfedora10: ffmpeg
[05:45] <c_webkit> user9: keyboard is used to type and mouse to point just the basics :)
[05:45] <bruce_> e_vi_l
[05:45] <Veritas718> ok, some people are old, and some people failed their vim class :p
[05:45] <bruce_> the center of evil
[05:45] <FloodBot1> bruce_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <Bsims> bruce_: Heh there is an official vim fork called elvis
[05:45] <mindrape> bruce_: we got it but we just dont find it as humorous as you do..
[05:46] <bruce_> ok never mind
[05:46] <histo> !offtopic
[05:46] <bruce_> my bad....
[05:46] <Bsims> mindrape: its one of the oldest traditions in unix
[05:46] <decay> os so it's wrong saying ubuntu is linux eh?
[05:46] <decay> ubuntu is GNU, with linux kernel
[05:46] <Veritas718> hey favorite music programs that support ipod touch v2? and best support for stl editing? (sorry for second question :P)
[05:46] <Bsims> decay: Not wrong its just not precise...
[05:46] <Geoffrey2> mindrape, do you happen to know if there's a sort option there...to sort by size?  I didn't see any such option in the man page...
[05:46] <MeVsTheVoices> No, its not wrong saying its linux, it is linux, its not UNIX
[05:46] <mindrape> Geoffrey2: sort -u
[05:46] <Shakedown> K so I pastebin'd it
[05:46] <Flak> Hey, I recently got a laptop with vista... really, really want to get ubuntu on it. I downloaded 8.10-desktop-i386.iso through the torrent, and slowly burnt it onto a cd, when i boot off the cd, it freezes when i select any of the options (like check CD for defects, run ubuntu, install ubuntu - it does not freeze when i start a memory test)
[05:47] <rdw200169> Veritas718, i think Songbird supports that, i'm not sure, i know it does support other Ipods
[05:47] <Veritas718> hey favorite music programs that support ipod touch?
[05:47] <mindrape> Geoffrey2: pipe it to that so throw | sort -u at the end of it.
[05:47] <decay> it isnt linux..just uses the kernel
[05:47] <Shakedown> _Vi_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/108457/
[05:47] <MeVsTheVoices> Amarok
[05:47] <Veritas718> the laptop comes with AHCI turned on in the bios
[05:47] <decay> if it were to be shipped with with GNU Hurd, it wouldnt be called linux at all
[05:47] <bruce_> if I have a package, and it has tons of file, how can I find a particular function in that package?
[05:47] <Veritas718> flack:the laptop comes with AHCI turned on in the bios
[05:47] <bruce_> grep or find? or something like that?
[05:48]  * Flak checks on that, thank you Veritas718
[05:48] <Bsims> Veritas718: take a look at gtkpod's website all of them use the lib from them to talk to it
[05:48] <mindrape> bruce_:    dpkg -S *sometoolinapackage*
[05:48] <histo> Bruce, apt-cache showpkg
[05:48] <decay> no
[05:48] <Veritas718> well iwas wondering preference
[05:48] <bruce_> hold on
[05:48] <decay> he wants a function in the files
[05:48] <histo> Bruce, or do you want to see the function of one of the depends
[05:48] <Veritas718> like which interface you liked
[05:48] <bruce_> so I cd in the folder right
[05:48] <histo> Bruce, no
[05:48] <angel> k onda
[05:48] <bruce_> coz I have irssi source downlodae
[05:48] <angel> hola :D
[05:48] <histo> Bruce, I thought you were doing something else.
[05:48] <_Vi_> Shakedown: if you type gvim do you get anything?
[05:48] <bruce_> I wanna know how to handle the command privmsg
[05:48] <decay> bruce_: you need to  loop through files and grep
[05:48] <histo> Bruce, okay you want to install irssi from source?
[05:49] <Shakedown> _Vi_: I don't have it, it can be found though.
[05:49] <decay> no, bruce_  is looking for a function in the source code
[05:49] <decay> i th ink
[05:49] <histo> Bruce, wrong' user sry
[05:49] <histo> decay, bruce_ ahh I see my bad
[05:49] <rdw200169> bruce_, just /msg
[05:49] <mindrape> grep "somefunction" *       <--- in the directory
[05:49] <Veritas718> shouldt 8.10 support AHCI though?
[05:49] <Bsims> bruce_: what are you trying to do?
[05:49] <bruce_> that's what I want
[05:49] <bruce_> grep "somefunction"
[05:49] <decay> mindrape: the function is inside a file...but there are many files
[05:49] <bruce_> let me try
[05:50] <mindrape> decay: so * will do it  :)
[05:50] <decay> oink oink
[05:50] <bruce_> do I need the quote?
[05:50] <lstarnes> bruce_: try running this in irssi's source directory: grep -nHR "function-name" .
[05:50] <_Vi_> Shakedown: hmmm i'd do 'sudo apt-get install vim*' and see if that fixes it.
[05:50] <bruce_> do I need quotes?
[05:50] <mindrape> yes please.
[05:50] <lstarnes> bruce_: no, but you will need them if what you are searching for contains spaces
[05:51] <bruce_> ok
[05:51] <bruce_> is the function case sensitive?
[05:51] <lstarnes> bruce_: yes
[05:51] <bruce_> ok
[05:51] <Flak> Veritas718, AHCI was indeed on, trying again with it on IDE
[05:51] <lstarnes> bruce_: although you could use -inHR instead of -nHR to make it case-insensitive
[05:51] <decay> bruce_:  use grep -i to turn case sensitivity off
[05:51]  * mindrape introduces bruce_ to the manpages...        man grep
[05:51] <Shakedown> _Vi_: Wow, a ton of dependencies I
[05:52] <Shakedown> _Vi_: Oh well, forget it
[05:52] <Shakedown> Thanks for your help though
[05:52] <_Vi_> yea well its not like windows didnt have a ton of dependencies (DLLS)
[05:52] <Flannel> Shakedown: Just install 'vim' not vim*  (unless you want the GUI and stuff)
[05:52] <Veritas718> flak, i would think that it shouldnt matter but let me knwo im about to install too
[05:52] <_Vi_> anytime
[05:52] <jgreen> I am looking for help upgrading to phpgd2
[05:52] <jgreen> I am on hardy heron
[05:52] <bruce_> it's been a minute now.... and still haven't found anything...
[05:53] <Flannel> Shakedown: the vim that comes with Ubuntu is vim-tiny, it's... not a very good rendition of vim (and it likely doesn't include vimtutor stuffs)
[05:53] <Shakedown> Phh, rubbish - now it works
[05:53] <lstarnes> bruce_: did you include the . at the end of the command?
[05:53] <bruce_> huh?
[05:53] <Shakedown> I "sudo apt-get install vim" and got it now - thanks!
[05:53] <bruce_> no...
[05:53] <Flak> Veritas718, I'm still getting the same scenario
[05:53] <bruce_> what I did was grep -nHR PRIVMSG
[05:53] <Shakedown> Thanks Flannel
[05:53] <Veritas718> yeah i didnt think it should matter
[05:53] <lstarnes> bruce_: that was necessary.  Hit ctrl+C then do grep -nHR PRIVMSG .
[05:53] <Flannel> Shakedown: vimtutor is in vim-runtime, vim-tiny doesn't install -runtime
[05:53] <Flak> it freezes and every other minute will spin the cd - after awhile if i hit the arrow keys I get a very loud beeping noise
[05:54] <jgreen> apt-get install php5-gd isn't giving me all the libraries?
[05:54] <Veritas718> what kind of computer?
[05:54] <bruce_> oh oh oh
[05:54] <Shakedown> Flannel: Yeah I thought I had the full vim, so I got the vim-runtime, but the tutor wouldn't work.  Now that I've got the full vim it works though.
[05:54] <_Vi_> Shakedown: i thought you already had vim installed, that's why i had you do vim*, but meh, what ever it works now :)
[05:54] <bruce_> so in irssi
[05:54] <bruce_> how do I scroll up to view the chat history?
[05:54] <Shakedown> _Vi_: Ha I thought I had vim too!
[05:55] <lstarnes> bruce_: page up/page down
[05:55] <Shakedown> _Vi_: I guess I had vim-tiny though
[05:55] <Flak> Veritas718: Acer laptop with a Intel Dual T3400 processor (32 bit)
[05:55] <mindrape> bruce_:  #irssi        man irssi
[05:55] <Shakedown> Thanks guys
[05:55] <bruce_> dang..........
[05:55] <bruce_> ok
[05:55] <bruce_> thanks guys.
[05:55] <Flannel> bruce_: page up/down, or alt-p/n
[05:55] <lstarnes> bruce_: also, if you want to know how the irc protocol works, you may want to look at http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1459
[05:55] <bruce_> got it
[05:55] <bruce_> do u use it too?
[05:55] <Flannel> bruce_: Lots of people do.
[05:55] <jgreen> anyone out there that can help?
[05:56] <bruce_> my instructor wants us to use the RFC 2812
[05:56] <tylor> jgreen: whats your problem
[05:56] <mindrape> jgreen - sudo dpkg -S *php5*
[05:56] <Flannel> bruce_: For things that aren't directly related to Ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic may be a better place to ask.
[05:56] <mindrape> that will show you the files you can get in the far left... sudo apt-get install what you want.
[05:56] <jgreen>  Call to undefined function imagecreatetruecolor() in
[05:57] <lstarnes> bruce_: 2812 has some elements which only apply to IRCnet and its ircd but not to other networks and ircds
[05:57] <jgreen> that is the error which is part of gd lib
[05:57] <Flannel> mindrape: No, it won't.  dpkg -S only displays stuff on installed packages.
[05:57] <bruce_> ok
[05:57] <mindrape> err ... l  :P
[05:57] <bruce_> I'll og there
[05:57] <jgreen> I added grep gd
[05:57] <jgreen> php5-gd, php5-curl, php5-common, php5-mysql: /etc/php5/conf.d
[05:57] <jgreen> php5-gd: /etc/php5/conf.d/gd.ini
[05:57] <jgreen> php5-gd, php5-curl, php5-common, php5-cli, libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql: /etc/php5
[05:57] <FloodBot1> jgreen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:57] <rdw200169> jgreen, you can also use apt-cache search
[05:58] <jgreen> ?
[05:58] <rdw200169> jgreen, to find a package, for example, apt-cache search php5
[05:58] <jgreen> thanks
[05:58] <rdw200169> jgreen, will find all the php5 related packages, installed or not
[05:58] <jgreen> the issue is not that its not finding it
[05:58] <jgreen> but rather its out of date
[05:59] <jgreen> I also added extension=phpgd2 into my php.ini
[05:59] <jeeves_Moss> how do I update my install of ClamAV?
[05:59] <rdw200169> jgreen, take a shot at adding the backports to sources.list, there may be an update from jaunty perhaps?  (i don't know)
[05:59] <jgreen> are they ones uncommented?
[05:59] <rdw200169> !backports | jgreen
[05:59] <jgreen> tried those already
[06:00] <jgreen> I was hoping for a apt-get install php5-gd2
[06:00] <rdw200169> jgreen, you could also check the launchpad.net PPA's to see if someone packaged a later version for ubuntu
[06:00] <jgreen> but it seems I might have to compile the source
[06:00] <jgreen> which has been failing due to other dependencies
[06:00] <rdw200169> jgreen, check the PPA's first!
[06:01] <jgreen> sorry what is a PPA?
[06:01] <frybye> hi - looking for help with setting up terratec aurion sound card for 5.1 function in Intrepid??
[06:02] <rdw200169> jgreen, i'm gonna give you a link in a second, which you can use to search, but my internet is slow, so it will take a sec.
[06:02] <jgreen> thanks
[06:02] <frybye> with google I find other ppl with same problem but no soloutions...
[06:02] <jgreen> It works on my live server... but not my dev env
[06:02] <jgreen> which is a much better scenario
[06:02] <rdw200169> jgreen, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[06:03] <rdw200169> jgreen, so, for example, this is what php5-gd came up with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=php5-gd
[06:03] <jeeves_Moss> how do I update my install of ClamAV?
[06:04] <jeeves_Moss> anyone?
[06:04] <_Vi_> !backports | jeeves_Moss
[06:05] <rdw200169> jgreen, did that help?
[06:05] <jeeves_Moss> _Vi_, I did that, and the webmin module is claiming it's detecting an outdated version
[06:05] <jgreen> looks like it might
[06:05] <frybye> who is the sound- guru today... ???
[06:05] <_Vi_> webmin and ubuntu do not mix very well
[06:05] <jgreen> its cool if its  a fiesty link though im on heron right?
[06:05] <_Vi_> !webmin
[06:05] <_Vi_> second sentence ^^^^^^^
[06:06] <sellyoursoul> frybye:  you have a sound problem?
[06:06] <frybye> yes sellyoursoul sure do..
[06:06] <rdw200169> jgreen, depends on the dependencies of the actual .deb's, so i don't know ;)
[06:06] <jgreen> right I understand
[06:06] <rdw200169> frybye, well, explain your problem!
[06:06] <sellyoursoul> i'm a linux noob, but i know a little.
[06:06] <frybye> cant get the 5.1 feature with the terratec aurion 5.1 pci card to work - intrepid
[06:06] <jgreen> Ill be careful
[06:06] <rdw200169> frybye, are you using pulseaudio?
[06:07] <_Vi_> jeeves_Moss: keep in mind ubuntu's packages are not bleeding edge like some distros...
[06:07] <frybye> rdw200169: guess so...
[06:07] <ssgt> trying to move into linux, unbuntu specifically..........I used ndisgtk to install wireless driver, lspci shows the radio, lshw -C network says unclaimed.......from what I can tell the card is not turned on...how do I turn it on?????
[06:07] <MeVsTheVoices> Intrepid... pulseaudio
[06:07] <MeVsTheVoices> Doubtly
[06:07] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, yes, it's the default, though not everyone uses it ;)
[06:07] <syockit> Do you have recommendation for a good personal database program? Spreadsheets are hard to keep up
[06:07] <rdw200169> frybye, Intrepid, right?
[06:07] <jeeves_Moss> _Vi_, I think that's what the issue is.  my laptop is the same way
[06:08] <frybye> rdw200169: yeah...
[06:08] <Souper> mysql
[06:08] <MeVsTheVoices> Ohh wait intrepid ibex
[06:08] <frybye> ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid ibex...
[06:08] <_Vi_> jeeves_Moss: there might be a PPA of a newer one though
[06:09] <jeeves_Moss> _Vi_, PPA?
[06:09] <_Vi_> jeeves_Moss: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[06:09] <rdw200169> frybye, you may have to do a little typing to get it to work... this involves ALSA + PulseAudio (the default) + a change for 5.1 digital surround
[06:09] <Bsims> syockit: Open office has a decent front end
[06:09] <syockit> you mean Base? maybe I should check it again
[06:09] <rdw200169> frybye, are you using SPDIF or the individual jacsk?
[06:09] <rdw200169> frybye, i.e. coaxial audio
[06:10] <frybye> individ jacks..
[06:10] <frybye> so analogue...
[06:10] <rdw200169> frybye, ok, gimme a sec, my internet is slow ;)
[06:10] <jeeves_Moss> _Vi_, ahhh, thanks
[06:10] <frybye> rdw200169: fine...
[06:10] <_Vi_> np
[06:10] <syockit> But the time for it to start up..... I might really go for PHP/ajax/mySQL, but the development time....
[06:10] <frybye> slow net is a bummer though...
[06:11] <rdw200169> frybye, yeah, i have TimeWarner Cable Roadrunner too! (it's garbage, btw)
[06:11] <frybye> in berlin (brit. a.force veteran-) with a 16.000adsl - no probs this end...
[06:11] <rdw200169> frybye, they absolutely refuse to put another hub in our neighborhood, or to run new coax, so the entire neighborhood is on garbage ineternet
[06:12] <frybye> ;(
[06:12] <rdw200169> frybye, yeah, i live in N. Manhattan NYC,
[06:12] <MeVsTheVoices> frybye: Would you please pastebin the output of this /proc/asound/card0/codec#0
[06:12] <zachera> Holy crap.
[06:12] <zachera> There's a lot of people in here!
[06:12] <sellyoursoul> i'm not really here
[06:12] <zachera> Lies.
[06:12] <zachera> I bet there's one person here from every *big* country.
[06:12] <frybye> no such file or directory???
[06:13] <ssgt> 8.0
[06:13] <ssgt> trying to move into linux, unbuntu specifically..........I used ndisgtk to install wireless driver, lspci shows the radio, lshw -C network says unclaimed.......from what I can tell the card is not turned on...how do I turn it on?????
[06:13] <sellyoursoul> i'm from a small island
[06:13] <bluefox83> zachera, this is definitely not for the cyber-agoraphobic
[06:13] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, generally, ALSA is usually set up already for 5.1, it's just getting PulseAudio to output it (i.e. use the correct device)
[06:13] <Bsims> syockit: I got a love for posgrel
[06:13] <frybye> was that the whole of the command "   /proc/asound/card0/codec#0  " - ??
[06:13] <zachera> bluefox83: Well, I was just on my way out the door..
[06:13] <trentjs> Hey i need some assistance with installing Lan Drivers, i am having issues fining drivers
[06:13] <Bsims> syockit: but i was formaly trained in SQL/400
[06:13] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, i've gotten Pulse Audio to work work, simultaneously, on 3 devices, it's a fantastic piece of softare
[06:13]  * zachera runs out the door
[06:14] <bluefox83> wow...wonder if i had anything to do with that...lol
[06:14] <syockit> Oh, now I realized that Base hung.
[06:14] <MeVsTheVoices> cat /proc/asound/card0/id sorry
[06:14] <frybye> rdw200169: should that have been gedit /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 or similar...?
[06:15] <frybye> ok have it..
[06:15] <rdw200169> frybye, do what MeVsTheVoices suggests
[06:15] <MeVsTheVoices> What is?
[06:15] <rdw200169> frybye, he is a smart man
[06:15] <MeVsTheVoices> frybye: What did it spit back at you
[06:16] <frybye> cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#0: No such file or directory
[06:16] <MeVsTheVoices> cat /proc/asound/card0/id sorry
[06:16]  * rdw200169 darns TimeWarner to the fiery pits of heck, fist waving in air
[06:16] <Bsims> rdw200169: want to borrow Mr Ouchy
[06:16] <alexb92> hey guys, ive got an external hdd handy and it already has mac installed on there
[06:16] <frybye> CMI8738
[06:17] <Sensor> Hi, Do I need the alternate install CD to install 'without' gnome/kde/ ?
[06:17]  * MeVsTheVoices to google
[06:17] <alexb92> so i was wondering, if i install ubuntu, would it be possible to run both operating systems from the external hdd?
[06:17] <Bsims> rdw200169: its a barbed wire wrapped ball bat dipped in hot sauce and rolled in rock salt
[06:17] <MeVsTheVoices> frybye: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251380
[06:17] <Flannel> Sensor: You need a non-desktop CD, yes.
[06:17] <Bsims> alexb92: possibly
[06:17] <MeVsTheVoices> frybye: Your 'parently not the only one
[06:17] <Bsims> Sensor: yeah I actually prefer the alternate cd, as I got started with Debian
[06:17] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, dang you and your fast internet, dang you!
[06:17] <sellyoursoul> alexb92:  you running osx on a pc?
[06:18] <MeVsTheVoices> frybye: There is a few solutions posted in people's replies
[06:18] <rdw200169> MeVsTheVoices, the page was still loading for me!
[06:18] <Sensor> Bsims, thanks. Is the minimal only if your internet connection is slow?
[06:18] <rdw200169> frybye, there's also this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3716970
[06:18] <_Vi_> sellyoursoul: like that's so rare
[06:18] <sellyoursoul> i'm just asking because i was thinking about trying it.
[06:18] <Flannel> Sensor: No, the minimal is the alternate CD installer, without any packages on the CD itself (so it downloads everything off the internet)
[06:18] <Bsims> Sensor: it will leave you with a command line install and expect you to install the rest yourself
[06:19] <Flannel> Bsims: That's not true.
[06:19] <Flannel> Well, it could be.  But isn't necessarily true.
[06:19] <_Vi_> sellyoursoul: hehe
[06:19]  * Bsims nods true enough...
[06:19] <Bsims> on both sides
[06:19] <Sensor> Flannel, thanks.
[06:19] <Flannel> Bsims: It gives you identical options to the alternate CD.
[06:19] <Bsims> Sensor: lets turn this around what do you want?
[06:19] <sellyoursoul> _Vi_:  i'm not sure how well it would work on my single core cpu and anemic ram
[06:19] <frybye> rdw200169: soloutions tend to be for older versions of ubuntu..hmmm..?
[06:19] <rdw200169> Sensor, why not just install ubuntu-server without any of the server options, w/the linux-generic package, it's exactly what your talking about
[06:20] <Bsims> Sensor: and remember Ubuntu will mail you the cd/dvd
[06:20] <Bsims> for free
[06:20] <rdw200169> frybye, yes, but the PulseAudio configurations persist
[06:20] <Sensor> Bsims, I want an install without a desktop.
[06:20] <Flannel> rdw200169: As is the alternate CD with a command line install.
[06:20] <_Vi_> sellyoursoul: better than vista i would think, but that's OT for here :)
[06:20]  * Bsims nods sounds like you want the server version
[06:20] <alexb92> sellyoursoul: yes i am , i have the retail dvd and it works
[06:20] <rdw200169> Flannel, yes, but that's difficult...
[06:20] <Flannel> rdw200169: Er... no?
[06:20] <Sensor> rdw200169, the server is the same install without the desktop?
[06:20] <jgreen> hey rdw200169
[06:20] <Bsims> Or take a normal version and remove X
[06:20] <rdw200169> Flannel, well, i guess no harder than installing linux-generic post-install of ubuntu-serer
[06:20] <Bsims> Sensor: you are wanting a command line only version?
[06:21] <sellyoursoul> alexb92:  does it work well, or is it just a play thing?
[06:21] <Flannel> rdw200169: Its easier.  Select "install a command line system" from the boot menu.
[06:21] <rdw200169> jgreen, hey
[06:21] <Flannel> rdw200169: No swapping of kernels or anything afterwards.
[06:21] <alexb92> what do u mean?
[06:21] <jgreen> back to the gd issue... I have gd talking to apache the issue is its old
[06:21] <jgreen> and when I look at PPAs they might be the same old gd packages
[06:21]  * Bsims tends to favor X and either wmaker or lxde for servers that way I have X if I need it
[06:21] <sellyoursoul> alexb92:  i mean does it run well, without any major problems?
[06:22] <rdw200169> jgreen, that's a matter i cannot solve, reluctantly.
[06:22] <Sensor> Bsims, yes, I've done it already by 'removing' the desktop afterwards but wanted it done initially.
[06:22] <jgreen> I know
[06:22] <rdw200169> jgreen, your only other option is probably installing the whole mess from source
[06:22] <frybye> rdw200169: so what does that mean about "PulseAudio configs persist..?" the problem cant be fixed or ??
[06:22] <alexb92> yeah it runs fine, the only thing it does do occasionally is disconnect from the internet which involves a reboot to fix
[06:22] <jgreen> I found this
[06:22] <jgreen> http://cumu.li/2008/5/13/recompiling-php5-with-bundled-support-for-gd-on-ubuntu
[06:22] <alexb92> and sometimes settings change if i dont lock them
[06:22] <alexb92> but besides that it runs fine
[06:22]  * Bsims nods as Flannel said install a command-line only system
[06:22] <alexb92> no problems at all
[06:22] <frybye> rdw200169: sorry I am a relative newbie and dont have that much background knowledge..
[06:22] <_Vi_> Bsims: wmaker is pretty nice, I like FVWM-Crystal too, and Icewm, flux is ok too i guess :)
[06:23] <Sensor> Bsims,Blannel,rdw thanks for your help, gotta headache for now. goodbye.
[06:23] <jgreen> I tried it... I probably have to get rid of a bunch of modules
[06:23] <rdw200169> frybye, what i mean is, the tips about how to change the pulseaudio configuration should not change
[06:23] <Flannel> Sensor: You want the alternate CD.  There's an option (in the F5 menu on recent versions... maybe f4?  One of them) to install a "command line only" system.  That's exactly what you want.
[06:23] <jgreen> in order to make it compile properl
[06:23] <frybye> i c thanks rdw200169
[06:23] <Bsims> _Vi_: heh install lxde if only for its filemanager... thats a loverly bit of software
[06:23] <frybye> ill go try this stuff.. c u
[06:23] <_Vi_> got that too
[06:23] <_Vi_> :)
[06:23] <rdw200169> frybye, if you pastebin your pulseaudio config, i can try to help
[06:23] <sellyoursoul> alexb92:  i have to try that.  you say you're running from an external drive.  you have any info (a link) on doing that?
[06:24] <alexb92> no i dont
[06:24] <alexb92> but if ur willing
[06:25] <alexb92> i can help u install it on ur computer if u wish
[06:25] <MeVsTheVoices> pendrivelinux.com
[06:25] <sellyoursoul> i'm willing.  let's go.
[06:25] <afroken> can anyone help with nvidia driver? installing driver with synaptic, then reboot ,intrepid said not nvidia modules found ,
[06:25]  * _Vi_ bonks alexb92 on the head with his grammar wand!
[06:25] <miranda_psi> does anyone know why the compiz 3d cube would suddenly have performance problems?
[06:26] <bsusa> hello
[06:26] <bsusa> i have 1 ubuntu machine and a Myrhbuntu machine and im trying to get samba working to views shares on each one, i have set it up and i cannot see anything. I dont understand what im doing wrong, can somone help me please
[06:26] <alexb92> ok
[06:26] <alexb92> sorry but do u have msn or someother im to make it easier?
[06:26] <MeVsTheVoices> miranda_psi: Uhh, its a spinning cube that hold all your window data in a 3d space, performance problems seem imminent
[06:26] <Flannel> alexb92: It's preferred that you keep it in the channel.
[06:27] <rdw200169> miranda_psi, you may want to try #compiz-fusion
[06:27] <_Vi_> !away > dzup-beback
[06:27] <miranda_psi> MeVsTheVoices: It was running very smooth, then the next time I booted I had the problem
[06:27] <MeVsTheVoices> miranda_psi: Ohh that kind
[06:27] <miranda_psi> rdw200169: thanks - will do
[06:27] <rdw200169> afroken, which one did you install?
[06:28] <bsusa> i can see the myhbuntu shares in Windows but i cant see anything in the ubuntu machine
[06:28] <afroken> rdw200169, nvidia-glx
[06:28] <alexb92> if not its ok i can still guide u through here
[06:28] <alexb92> although if u want
[06:28] <rdw200169> afroken, what card do you have?
[06:28] <afroken> GeForce 8600 GT
[06:28] <alexb92> u can download a free version of mac osx
[06:28] <rdw200169> afroken, get nvidia-glx-new
[06:29] <alexb92> but it does have some set backs
[06:29] <u5h> HELLO! I WAS TRYING TO INSTALL GFS BUT MY PARTITION WAS CORRUPT
[06:29] <rdw200169> !nvidia | afroken
[06:29] <phant0m> Hey all, i just downloaded ubuntu 8.10, and i chose the "Install inside windows" option, now how do i boot it?
[06:29] <u5h> WHAT IS THE DBUS REMEDY FOR DIPLOMATIC PURPOSES
[06:29] <afroken> rdw200169, ok, btw , i also tried letting ubuntu download it itslef (thru enabling desktop effects with the same reuslts)
[06:29] <_Vi_> !caps
[06:29] <_Vi_> geesus
[06:29] <u5h> what is the dbus remedy for diplomatic purposes
[06:30] <trentjs> so i am having issues finding attansic L1 gigabit drivers can anyone point me in the right direction
[06:30] <Sensor> Hi again. I wish to build software in an isolated environment and keep my regular system seperate... Is installing via alternate cd in a seperate partition, then chrooting into it for building the best approach?
[06:30] <afroken> rdw200169, i was following this wiki, except i run into this problem...
[06:30] <phant0m> Hey all, i just downloaded ubuntu 8.10, and i chose the "Install inside windows" option, now how do i boot it?
[06:30] <Flannel> Sensor: Virtualization may be a better approach.
[06:30] <u5h> you can do it in virtualbox if you like
[06:31] <scunizi> Sensor, why not just install something like virtual box or vmware and do it there in a vm?
[06:31] <u5h> that may be quicker for you
[06:31] <alexb92> phantom: you can just reboot once its done
[06:31] <rdw200169> afroken, can you pastebin the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[06:31] <afroken> rdw200169, that wiki said " Intrepid Ibex uses only nvidia-glx "
[06:31] <u5h> when dbus goes wild
[06:31] <u5h> it attacks
[06:31] <alexb92> and it will give u 2 choices for which to choose from
[06:31] <rdw200169> afroken, sorry, didn't know that, i'm still on 8.04 ;)
[06:31] <alexb92> there should be ubuntu and windows xp or something like that
[06:31] <sellyoursoul> i got disconnected.
[06:31] <Sensor> Virtualization, thanks...been there... is that going to give you all your hardware info?
[06:31] <u5h> i used to think linux was complex like the nethers of the womankind
[06:31] <u5h> it turns out that it functions of sheer necessity
[06:32] <alexb92> thats fine
[06:32] <Sensor> I thought if I chrooted I'd have all the /proc and /dev needed to build.
[06:32] <phant0m> yeah i re-booted my PC, on XP now. How do i boot ubuntu?
[06:32] <u5h> ubuntu seems to work as if hounded by a cuckold
[06:32] <alexb92> sellyoursoul: is there other means of contacting u besides the forum?
[06:32] <rdw200169> afroken, regardless, that pastebin output would still be helpful
[06:32] <alexb92> i will just clog it up with stuff if i have to explain it here thats all
[06:33] <afroken> rdw200169, http://paste.ubuntu.com/108465/  thanks
[06:33] <phant0m> ill restart one more time. ill be back..
[06:33] <u5h> i wonder how the sparrows sings to sudo
[06:33] <MethinX> any terminal based torrent download Programs?
[06:33] <u5h> rtorrent
[06:34] <Geoffrey2> ok, what's the name of the command line app that you can use to modify the resolution and size of pictures?
[06:34] <u5h> feh? gv?
[06:34] <chronofire> i installed ubuntu just yesterday and i wanted to install some of these gtk themes i see on gnome-look.org the guides told me where to place the files but ubuntu says the theme will not load correctly because i dont have a theme engine installed. Hwere can i find the engine?
[06:34] <scunizi> Geoffrey2, imagemagick
[06:34] <_Vi_> imagemagik
[06:34] <bsusa> i need some samba help please, its driving me crazy
[06:34] <u5h> maybe not feh
[06:34] <MethinX> thank you for the speedy reply
[06:34] <Geoffrey2> scunizi, thanks :)
[06:34] <scunizi> Geoffrey2, and some the the things related to it.. convert etc.
[06:34] <afroken> chronofire, i think you can on gnome-look.org
[06:35] <chronofire> im not sure i looked and coundt find the actual engine
[06:35] <scunizi> Geoffrey2, you might also look at Mapivi as a gui alternative.. lossless edits..
[06:35] <rdw200169> afroken, ah, its still trying to use the nv driver, (the open source one), you need it to use the nvidia one!
[06:35] <sellyoursoul> man, i'm getting disconnected a lot tonight.
[06:35] <afroken> rdw200169, how?
[06:35] <u5h> python sucks!
[06:35] <bsusa> samba sucks 2
[06:35] <Sensor> flannel/scunizi thanks.
[06:35] <afroken> chronofire, which engine do you need?
[06:35] <scunizi> sellyoursoul, that's cause you sellyoursoul.. :)
[06:35] <alexander> yes samba sucks
[06:35] <rdw200169> afroken, can you post the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:36] <scunizi> Sensor, np..
[06:36] <u5h> what does samba even do
[06:36] <MethinX> rtorrent
[06:36] <chronofire> afroken:  i am not sure i wanted to installed some GTK 2.x themes
[06:36] <u5h> it never came up so i never looked
[06:36] <bsusa> is ther an easy way to get ubuntu sharing with ubuntu
[06:36] <decay> guys, i installed hddtemp...but i have to run it as sudo...(sudo hddtemp)...is there way i can run it as a regular user?
[06:36] <sellyoursoul> alexb92:  you still in here?
[06:36] <u5h> bsusa: sftp
[06:36] <alexb92> sellyousoul: lol thats alright might be the heat
[06:36] <rdw200169> alexander, i disagree, Samba is fantastic (because it CAN work), it's windows file sharing that sucks!
[06:36] <u5h> as in FTP through SSH
[06:36] <alexb92> yeah im stil here
[06:36] <alexander> lol
[06:37] <rdw200169> alexander, for example, did you know that XP has problems sharing with Vista?   (What the heck??)
[06:37] <alexb92> in sydney right now its 103 f
[06:37] <u5h> meaning start your ssh daemon, if it doesn't work, figure out why
[06:37] <afroken> rdw200169,  the xorg was created by intrepid when it couldn't find the modules (it suggested creating a new one) so it's pretty empty, i'll paste the original first and the one created by ubuntu second
[06:37] <alexander> i belive that
[06:37] <sellyoursoul> it's cold here.
[06:37] <u5h> configure it like you know what you're doing
[06:37] <afroken> rdw200169, original: http://paste.ubuntu.com/108466/
[06:37] <alexander> vista is a failure :p
[06:37] <alexb92> rwd1002169: not necessarily
[06:37] <sellyoursoul> i'm in us, oklahoma
[06:37] <alexb92> depends on the setup
[06:37] <scunizi> afroken, even on a smooth install xorg is pretty empty on inrepid
[06:37] <bsusa> i need to make shared folders becouse im sharing a folder over a network that mythvideo will use
[06:38] <alexb92> sellyoursoul: oh right nice, whats the time there btw?
[06:38] <rdw200169> afroken, well, that's all correct, you must have shown me an old Xorg.0.log file, can you show me the one with the most recent timestamp?
[06:38] <afroken> rdw200169, this is my current xorg
[06:38] <afroken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/108469/
[06:38] <u5h> bsusa: i gave you your answer
[06:38] <sellyoursoul> it's like 1 or something.  i still don't have my clock figured out.
[06:38] <sellyoursoul> 1 am
[06:38] <bsusa> thats ftp though
[06:38] <bsusa> isnt it?
[06:39] <u5h> what's the difference
[06:39] <alexander> question about samba actually if no one minds :p, how do i set up so that i have full control of the folders inside my shared folder??
[06:39] <rdw200169> afroken, ah, from the old one, it specifies the video driver, the new one does not
[06:39] <scunizi> afroken, that looks pretty normal
[06:39] <u5h> shared folders are the same thing
[06:39] <afroken> rdw200169, i used the old xorg - got "no nvidia modules found" and rebooted into the current xorg
[06:39] <Sensor> If I wish to chroot, is there any advantage an install (into partition) vs. using debbootstrap? I trust the alternate CD more than a debootstrap script.
[06:39] <alexb92> sellyoursoul: ohk here its 5:40pm friday
[06:39] <bsusa> how can i enter a network path in a program if i use ftp?
[06:39] <rdw200169> afroken, that, is strange
[06:39] <scunizi> rdw200169, afroken check out xrandr as the control mechanism for video..
[06:39] <u5h> what
[06:40] <promet> I have a few sound module questions, anyone hip to the "lsmod" output of sound modules?
[06:40] <rdw200169> afroken, the new one is using the nv driver, the log for the old one, is probably in Xorg.1.log (etc...)
[06:40] <sellyoursoul> alexb92:  do the kangaroos hide out when it's hot?
[06:41] <bsusa> im using mythvideo over a network, so if i enter a network folder in the video storage section it should come up with the videos in it, without a path it wont work
[06:41] <afroken> rdw200169, i tried to enable nvidia on this new one as well, so i guess the log would refer to the new one
[06:41] <u5h> does anybody play xmoto
[06:41] <rdw200169> afroken, can you verify if the nvidia.ko file even exists?
[06:41] <afroken> rdw200169, sure, tell me how?
[06:41] <u5h> bsusa: so figure out what the path is
[06:42] <rdw200169> afroken, for example, if you modprobe nv, then hit the tab key a few times, it *should* mention nvidia as an option
[06:42] <afroken> rdw200169, lsmod | grep nvidia
[06:42] <afroken>  gives nothing
[06:42] <alexb92> sellyoursoul: they usually sleep in the bushes or near the water banks to cool down otherwise they are always on the move
[06:42] <rdw200169> afroken, of course, it's not loaded!
[06:42] <bsusa> i cant but ftp://Mythbuntu/videos as a path
[06:42] <afroken> rdw200169, nvidia-agp  nvidiafb    nvram
[06:43] <u5h> type "ifconfig"
[06:43] <u5h> look for your IP
[06:43] <u5h> make sure you know what port it goes through on
[06:43] <Flak> Hey, whats the best method to burn an ubuntu .iso: Session-At-Once, Track At Once, TAO with zero-pregap, or Raw writing?
[06:43] <rdw200169> afroken, interesting...
[06:43] <nickrud> Flak, right click, burn to disk (in ubuntu)
[06:44] <alexander> hey guys is it possible to have something monitor one folder and if a new folder appears it would go in and unrar the files for my torrents = )?
[06:44] <afroken> rdw200169, i will give you more background- i installed server then added xfce, finally added ubuntu-desktop so its not the most conventional system
[06:44] <nickrud> alexander, you could certainly write a script for that, but it's beyond the scope of this channel
[06:44] <rdw200169> afroken, well, as a (relatively) reliable back door, you can try installing nvidia drivers with envyng
[06:44] <alexander> oh any refrences i could read up on for that?
[06:44] <alexander> i dont know where to start
[06:44] <rdw200169> afroken, it usually has a very high chance of success
[06:45] <u5h> run a script
[06:45] <afroken> rdw200169, ok, envy , apt-get install?
[06:45] <u5h> in cron
[06:45] <nickrud> !info abs-guide | alexander (and #bash might offer some help)
[06:45] <promet> I think I need to blacklist some sound modules, but I'm not exactly sure which ones
[06:45] <u5h> that checks the number of lines of an ls of that folder
[06:45] <mininat>  hi ! i've been reading the "contribute" pages of Ubuntu's web site and i was wondering if there is any
[06:45] <rdw200169> afroken, yah, apt-get install envyng-gtk
[06:45] <mininat>                  task managment platform for ubuntero ?
[06:45] <alexander> okay
[06:45] <u5h> you're on your way kid ;)
[06:45] <alexander> ill check it out see what i get :p
[06:45] <Sensor> afroken, is your install the same as if I use the Alternate CD, then install X and XFCE4 ?
[06:45] <alexander> ty
[06:45] <afroken> rdw200169, but if envy gets it wrong can i undo the damage?
[06:45] <alexb92> sellyoursoul: are you still there?
[06:46] <sellyoursoul> i'm here
[06:46] <scunizi> afroken, do you have an 8 series or 9 series video card?
[06:46] <sellyoursoul> i messaged you
[06:46] <rdw200169> afroken, i'm not sure, i've never tried, i usually end up installing from the nvidia website...
[06:46] <afroken> Sensor, i used the server version , but it should be the smae
[06:46] <bsusa> ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>:21/home/ftpusers/myth/ it shows no folders
[06:46] <rdw200169> afroken, but that's *always* a pain for me
[06:46] <jim_p> hello people
[06:46] <u5h> i have a 35 series video card
[06:46] <u5h> so suck it
[06:46] <nickrud> alexander, after you install that package the guide will be at /usr/share/doc/abs-guide
[06:46] <clarks> [   30.056256] hub 5-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 7 <---what is the problem of this?
[06:46] <jim_p> what is the best kernel to use on a k8 cpu?
[06:46] <dragon_flam> whats an html string.. plz ans to me and reply.. viz dragon_flam: yes its..... this format cause its difficult to trace thanks for co-operating :)
[06:46] <afroken> scunizi, not sure, i didnt buy the machine
[06:47] <nickrud> jim_p, the generic one, it adapts to the cpu
[06:47] <Sensor> afroken, thank you.
[06:47] <jim_p> nickrud, yea i was thinking of replacing that one
[06:47] <alexander> nickrud: by package name you mean cron right?
[06:48] <nickrud> jim_p, you could certainly compile a custom one, but it's not necessary
[06:48] <scunizi> afroken, sudo lshw will tell you what kind of card.. the latest nvidia drivers work much better than the 173 or 177 driver.. I believe if you add the medibuntu repos they have the latest driver (180.xx) available.
[06:48] <nickrud> alexander, abs-guide
[06:48] <afroken> Sensor I wouldnt recommend it, i ran into endless problems thats why i ended installin ubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <alexander> okay
[06:48] <jim_p> nickrud, and generic does not adapt! it has more options to include all sorts of cpus
[06:48] <ateam> ciao a tutti
[06:48] <rdw200169> scunizi, true that, you
[06:48] <rdw200169> scunizi, *yo ;)
[06:48] <Sensor> afroken, you mean with the server install? I ended up going to xubuntu for the XFCE4
[06:48] <rebel_gui> i have nothing open that is using sound but when i open teamspeak im muted and cannot unmute
[06:49] <alexander> nickrud: ty i am working on that now and ill read up thanks for your help :p
[06:49] <clarks> [   30.056256] hub 5-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 7 <---what is the problem of this?
[06:49] <nickrud> jim_p, I've talked to the kernel guys here and they tell me otherwise. But it's all automagic stuff to me
[06:49] <rdw200169> Sensor, afroken, only difference b/w server and desktop is, A) the lack of ubuntu-desktop on one and B) the addition of linux-server on the other
[06:49] <scunizi> rdw200169, I've installed the 180.11 for my 8200 direct from the nvidia site.. if done right it's pretty easy.. but getting to know what is right is a pain.
[06:49] <afroken> Sensor, i installed xfce4 and not xubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <jim_p> nickrud, give me a sec
[06:50] <afroken> rdw200169, i didnt install ubuntu-desktop, just various grapgic packages
[06:50] <mininat> any task repatition platform for a devoted want-to-contribute ? :)
[06:50] <rdw200169> scunizi, i remember always having problems getting nvidia-glx-new cleared out so the kernel would load the correct module
[06:50] <rdw200169> afroken, i'm just clearing up the difference ;)
[06:50] <scunizi> rdw200169, synaptic.. just uninstall everything nvidia
[06:50] <nickrud> jim_p, if you want a kernel that is tailored to your cpu and hardware only, you'll have to compile it yourself anyway
[06:50] <spawn> having trouble with my wireless card cant compile help http://pastebin.com/m442100b5
[06:51] <scunizi> rdw200169, but the install of the new driver needs to be done from a different tty with gdm shutdown
[06:51] <rdw200169> scunizi, there was a bug with nvidia-glx-new, a hidden file in /lib/linux-restircted-modules/.something
[06:51] <chronofire> i am trying to install this theme http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Vorta+Conky+and+Tint?content=92498 when i extract the files it only extracts the read me and the sample jpeg
[06:51] <Sensor> thnkx afroken,rdw
[06:51] <jim_p> nickrud, having checked here http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/linux-image , it seems that there is no specific kernel for my needs
[06:51] <rebel_gui> with pulseaudio i can killall pulseaudio to stop any service using audio, how can i do this with Esound?
[06:52] <Sensor> afroken, which problems did you experience with your install ?
[06:52] <jef_buntu> hello
[06:52] <bsusa> i have 1 ubuntu machine and a Myrhbuntu machine and im trying to get samba working to views shares on each one, i have set it up and i cannot see anything. I dont understand what im doing wrong, can somone help me please
[06:53] <afroken> scunizi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/108470/ this is the output which series is it?
[06:53] <afroken> Sensor, i couldn't get sound working
[06:53] <bsusa> anyone here familiar with samba?
[06:54] <selyoursoul> my dns keeps resetting back to the isp dns.  ahhhh!
[06:54] <afroken> Sensor, I gave up after i saw that people with similar situation in the forums couldnt solve it (minimal install ,no sound)
[06:54] <rebel_gui> with pulseaudio i can killall pulseaudio to stop any service using audio, how can i do this with Esound?
[06:54] <scunizi> afroken, check out the line that begins with "Product"..  it's a gforce 8600gt.. it would work better with the newer driver.
[06:54] <jef_buntu> do you know where I could find the geekest one that could help me setting up a way to boot a pentium II (that has only a network card and a keyboard [no screen]) if my other machine is a laptop...I have a hub also
[06:54] <jim_p> chronofire, will you give me a sec to think?
[06:55] <afroken> scunizi, so what do u recommend?
[06:55] <bsusa> selyoursoul: set them manually
[06:55] <hobbes0071> hi guys, what do i need to do to get ubuntu to detect a usb device?
[06:55] <jim_p> jef_buntu, can it boot from network?
[06:55] <chronofire> yes
[06:55] <selyoursoul> bsusa:  i did, to open dns
[06:55] <jim_p> hobbes0071, it auto detects
[06:55] <chronofire> jim_p
[06:55] <nickrud> jim_p, yes. They stopped making kernels specifically for each kernel after the kernel provided techniques to identify the cpu and set itself up properly. They switched somewhere around 6.10 I think
[06:55] <selyoursoul> alexb92:  wb.  sorry, i keep getting disconnected.
[06:55] <jef_buntu> jim_p: yes
[06:55] <scunizi> afroken, list the medibuntu repo's in your system .. refresh .. then you should have the nvidia 180 driver available.
[06:55] <Sensor> afroken, OK thanks. That's 8.1 or 8.04 lts?
[06:55] <spawn_> im having trouble installing my wireless im compiling the drivers http://pastebin.com/m442100b5
[06:55] <hobbes0071> jim_p: it doesnt for a specific usb. not sure why.
[06:55] <rdw200169> afroken, generally, the xorg log will specify if a card is not compatible, that's why i was trying to get you to load the *correct* one
[06:55] <selyoursoul> i thnk i'm good now.
[06:55] <afroken> Sensor intrepid
[06:56] <jef_buntu> jim_p: i mean it should be, but i dont have a server settup yet
[06:56] <jim_p> hobbes0071, for a spacific usb port?
[06:56] <Sensor> afroken, OK.
[06:56] <hobbes0071> jim_p: for a specific usb device. not port.
[06:56] <scunizi> afroken, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[06:56] <jim_p> jef_buntu, how will you boot that pc then?
[06:56] <jim_p> please one at a time
[06:56] <hobbes0071> :)
[06:56] <nickrud>  jim_p welcome to #ubuntu :)
[06:57] <ac13> Hi! When I turn on Normal graphics settings instead of None, Terminal and Emacs mess up and don't display the text properly. Is there a way to fix this?
[06:57] <afroken> scunizi, rdw200169 i will try with the medibuntu repos and then see where i go from there
[06:57] <MethinX> any fun stuff like portable apps for USB thumb drives that Linux have?
[06:57] <jef_buntu> jim_p: i could set up a server on my laptop i guess
[06:57] <clarks> [   30.056256] hub 5-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 7 <---what is the problem of this?
[06:57] <rdw200169> afroken, sounds good
[06:57] <jim_p> hobbes0071, plug that usb device in and pastebin your lsusb
[06:57] <clarks> anyone can help with that..
[06:57] <nickrud> jim_p, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[06:57] <clarks> jim_p,  [   30.056256] hub 5-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 7 <---what is the problem of this?
[06:57] <afroken> scunizi, added medibuntu - now apt-get what?
[06:58] <Sensor> Hi all, does anyone here have chroot experience for software building, I'd rather not virtualize.
[06:58] <fgeek_> Hola
[06:58] <jim_p> jef_buntu, will you give me a sec to find how an install over network is done?
[06:58] <rdw200169> afroken, apt-get update
[06:58] <fgeek_> necesito ayuda
[06:58] <jef_buntu> jim_p:  sure! :D
[06:58] <rdw200169> afroken, and apt-get upgrade (it shoudl list the driver)
[06:58] <lanoxx-> does anyone know an opensource tool that can read files from a deleted ntfs drive?
[06:58] <afroken> rdw200169, thanks
[06:59] <jef_buntu> I'm gonna take a look too
[06:59] <ac13> Anyone know answer to my question? By Normal I mean Visual Effects, btw. Thanks if anyone can help!
[06:59] <rdw200169> lanoxx-, well, there's PhotoRec
[06:59] <jim_p> lanoxx-, like recover them? testdisk or photorec
[06:59] <jim_p> !info testdisk
[06:59] <scunizi> afroken, I've gotta run.  I'll leave you with rdw200169.  He's up on all this too and quite capable.
[06:59] <rdw200169> thank jim_p
[06:59] <afroken> scunizi, thank you
[07:00] <scunizi> np
[07:00] <selyoursoul> funny, i quit xanax
[07:00] <jim_p> rdw200169, for what? :P
[07:00] <hobbes0071> jim_p: http://dpaste.com/112051/
[07:00] <rdw200169> jim_p, mentioning testdisk
[07:00] <Sensor> scunizi, bfn
[07:00] <selyoursoul> broke?
[07:00] <rdw200169> jim_p, that's what i was driving at ;)
[07:00] <jef_buntu> jim_p: did I mention this old pentium II doesnt have any disk?
[07:00] <decay> guys, i installed hddtemp...but i have to run it as sudo...(sudo hddtemp)...is there way i can run it as a regular user?
[07:00] <afroken> rdw200169, it wants to upgrade these: libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libv4l-0 poppler-utils xserver-xorg-video-intel
[07:00] <rdw200169> jim_p, but i couldn't remember the name
[07:00] <Sensor> lanoxx - http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[07:00] <jim_p> lol
[07:00] <rdw200169> afroken, no nvidia?
[07:01] <afroken> nope
[07:01] <afroken> strange
[07:01] <rdw200169> they may have it under a different name
[07:01] <lanoxx-> jim_p, im just using testdisk, i ran it for hours today, it wont find the partition anymore, although i tried with various settings, yesterday i could still see it but not restore it because i always got status bad, then i tried to manually recreate the partition with fdisk and not testdisk cant see it anymore
[07:01] <jim_p> jef_buntu, well sorry if i did not notice that with all the fuss here. not even a hdd?
[07:01] <selyoursoul> alexb92:  i got myself a good connection this time, if you have the time.
[07:01] <afroken> rdw200169, should i try "enable desktop effects"?
[07:01] <jim_p> lanoxx-, then you are done. forget your data
[07:01] <rdw200169> afroken, it won't help
[07:02] <rdw200169> afroken, any chance you can do a 'apt-cache search nvidia' and see if anything new shows up?
[07:02] <Sensor> lanoxx, how did you delete your drive?
[07:02] <jim_p> chronofire, are you still there?
[07:02] <chronofire> jim_p yes
[07:02] <Kartagis> when i right click on an address to open it in firefox, it is opened full screen. any ideas why?
[07:02] <lanoxx-> jim_p, isnt there anything
[07:02] <jim_p> chronofire, the package i downloaded has a .conkyrc, a tint configuration file and some scripts
[07:02] <lanoxx-> there always is, huh?
[07:02] <jscinoz> Hi im trying to set up squid to work transparently, however it does not appear to be working. This is the contents of my nat table in iptables: http://pastebin.com/f3ec27b2f and this is my squid.conf http://pastebin.com/f6fdb5310 What am i doing wrong?
[07:02] <jim_p> lanoxx-, if not even testdisk can do it, no
[07:03] <rdw200169> afroken, dang, no nvidia: http://packages.medibuntu.org/intrepid/index.html
[07:03] <jef_buntu> jim_p: no   well, I have a USB one but probably I wont be able to boot with it
[07:03] <lanoxx-> jim_p, how about comercial products, do you have experience with any of them?
[07:03] <chronofire> jim_p what do i do with these files? the readme says to extract but when i do they dont all extract. im not quite sure how to get this theme running i cannot follow the read me
[07:03] <jef_buntu> jim_p: and besides it a 1 TB
[07:03] <rdw200169> afroken, have you tried envyng yet?
[07:04] <afroken> rdw200169, no - i'll try now..
[07:04] <paul68> is there a way to adapt the text colors in the default taskbars without adapting this for all the windows in the system?
[07:04] <rdw200169> paul68, whatup! hey, remember we were talking about python?
[07:04] <jim_p> lanoxx-, some crappy software for restoring data from flash cards only
[07:05] <paul68> rdw200169: yes I remember, I found a solution using foxyproxy for now
[07:05] <jim_p> chronofire, do you know what tint is in that picture?
[07:05] <jim_p> chronofire, i suppose you know what conky is
[07:05] <rdw200169> paul68, i think that was you anyway... trying to get proxy working?
[07:06] <paul68> rdw200169: yes it was me you still have a good memory my friend
[07:06] <afroken> rdw200169, i need to chose between  | 0      | 177.82-0ubuntu0.1    and  | 173.14.12-1-0ubuntu4 | 173.14.12-1-0ubuntu4
[07:06] <lanoxx-> jim_p, there worst part about this it that the partition got lost when i installed windows, thats so ironic, windows destroyed its own partition during a setup
[07:06] <rdw200169> paul68, i got it working, hold on
[07:06] <paul68> ok
[07:06] <Kartagis> when i right click on an address in xchat to open it in firefox, it is opened full screen. any ideas why?
[07:06] <chronofire> jim_p, i thought this was just a theme pack
[07:06] <selyoursoul> why is my external drive telling me that there's data that needs to be written to the drive......every time i eject it?
[07:06] <jim_p> chronofire, tint is that taskbar thing on the bottom and only that
[07:07] <rdw200169> afroken, 177.82
[07:07] <chronofire> jim_p yea i figured this was two parts the bottom and the rest from what i read in the comments
[07:08]  * rdw200169 repeats his fist waving at Time Warner Cable
[07:08] <jim_p> chronofire, let me rephrase. what you are supposed see there is not the gtk theme
[07:08] <afroken> rdw200169, just trying to understand what i'm doing, 177 is a newer version?
[07:08] <quik__> anyone ever used rsync or similar to sync files that have been recently modified?
[07:08] <rdw200169> afroken, yes
[07:09] <chronofire> jim_p then how do i load the tint and conky
[07:09] <afroken> rdw200169, thanks
[07:09] <rdw200169> afroken, it's the latest that envyng offers
[07:09] <jef_buntu> jim_p: do you think there could be any way?
[07:09] <jim_p> jef_buntu, will the machine boot from usb ?
[07:09] <jim_p> chronofire, you you have either of them installed?
[07:09] <paul68> rdw200169: do you have an idea on how to adapt the taksbars text color without interfearing with the rest of the systems menus?
[07:09] <chronofire> jim_p it says to just extract them to your home folder then restart them.
[07:10] <jim_p> chronofire, do YOU have conky and tint installed?
[07:10] <rdw200169> paul68, nope
[07:10] <jef_buntu> jim_p: not like that...maybe if i could enter bios with a screen to see smth :S
[07:10] <afroken> rdw200169, ok, envy did its thing, rebooting, thanks for help...
[07:10] <chronofire> jim_p no i do not
[07:10] <jim_p> chronofire, then ?
[07:10] <rdw200169> paul68, http://paste.ubuntu.com/108477/
[07:11] <chronofire> so these files are themes for two programs called tint and conky?
[07:11] <jef_buntu> jim_p: when i boot, wont the bios try to see on the lan if there any server?
[07:11] <paul68> rdw200169: ok no worries found a cool way to have conky running and an embedded terminal on my desktop and was wondering if I could adapt the textcolor of my menubars without changing it systemwide, you can't have it all lol
[07:11] <rdw200169> paul68, i just don't think it's possible with the way gconf does things
[07:11] <rdw200169> paul68, i think ( i dpn'
[07:12] <rdw200169> paul68, whoops, i don't know though, if that's possible, i just doubt it strongly
[07:12] <jim_p> chronofire, lets start from the begining! CONKY is that stats bar that is on the top of the screenshot, TINT is that taskbar on the bottom of the screenshot. the rest in the screenshot, which is what you like, have nothing to do with conky or tint
[07:12] <rebel_kid> other than teamspeak what is a good voice conference server with a linux server and windows/linux/unix/mac clients
[07:12] <r-c> is there a way to update from 7.04 to 8.04 with a cd
[07:12] <chronofire> jim_p damn... so how do i make my ubuntu look like this then
[07:13] <jim_p> r-c, with 2 cds if you want
[07:13] <paul68> rdw200169: no problem my friend so run me through the pastbin please  do we do this in pvt?
[07:13] <jim_p> chronofire, find a blackish theme!
[07:13] <r-c> jim_p: 2 cd's ?
[07:13] <afroken> rdw200169,  it worked ! what is that extra package i need for more effects? the one that comes with some icon ?
[07:13] <nickrud> r-c you'd have to go to 7.10 then 8.04
[07:13] <rdw200169> afroken, yay! it worked! yayay!
[07:13] <r-c> i have 7.04 on my system now
[07:14] <afroken> rdw200169, thank you so much!
[07:14] <nickrud> !upgrade | r-c this explains the steps you'd need.
[07:14] <chronofire> jim_p where can i find a blackish theme
[07:14] <rdw200169> afroken, if you do a 'apt-cache search compiz' it will tell you what's available
[07:14] <jim_p> r-c, use the alternative install cd of 7.10 to get to 7.10 from 7.04, and the alternative of 8.04 to get from 7.10 to 8.10
[07:14] <jim_p> chronofire, let me look lol
[07:14] <afroken> rdw200169, i will , thanks
[07:14] <rdw200169> afroken, you also want to get compizconfig for *all* the config options
[07:14] <jaaames> hi guys, i broke grub in windows, can anyone help me with the quickest way just to boot back into windows?
[07:14] <afroken> rdw200169, thanks
[07:14] <rdw200169> afroken, you may also want to look into emerald, for making your windows look more interesting
[07:15] <rdw200169> !emerald | afroken
[07:15] <robert__> is there any instant messenger clients for ubuntu that support both voice mic and webcam?
[07:15] <krizewmlze> skype
[07:15] <jim_p> r-c, my mistake.... *to get from 7.10 to 8.04
[07:15] <chronofire> jim_p alrite thanks
[07:15] <rdw200169> paul68, what do you think?
[07:15] <robert__> i know skype supports mic and amsn webcam, but i want something that supports both
[07:15] <jim_p> skype does camera
[07:16] <kernel> skype..
[07:16] <paul68> rdw200169: looks good just a question where do I implement this and what do you mean with the network "belkin" linksys?
[07:16] <jim_p> if your cam does not work with skype, its another story
[07:16] <krizewmlze> skype support webcam and videocall
[07:16] <robert__> skype doesn't work with my camera
[07:16] <rdw200169> paul68, those are examples, you can mangle those statements for whatever networks you want
[07:16] <rdw200169> paul68, what is the name of your wireless device?
[07:16] <jim_p> hobbes0071, are you still there? what are the 2 devices that i see in lsusb?
[07:17] <robert__> right now i'm using skype for voice and amsn for webcam
[07:17] <paul68> rdw200169: or do you mean by that network name with ssid x
[07:17] <alexander> how do i get samba to allow me to edit the files inside the folders inside shared folder, so i set write to shared, but it does not let me edit /shared/folder/myfile.txt ??
[07:17] <rdw200169> afroken, http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Decorators/Emerald, sudo apt-get install emerald
[07:17] <rdw200169> paul68, ssid
[07:17] <robert__> i'm looking for something that works for both
[07:17] <wemdowemd> I know this isn't quite the right place to ask, but I figured you'd all be knowledgable on open software, and know about portableapps. I need a portable image viewer that allows for library creation. Cornice portable is good but it only goes through file directories - no tagging or overall list creation. This is vista by the way. If it's an annoyingly offtopic question feel free to direct me...
[07:17] <wemdowemd> ...away :)
[07:17] <jim_p> chronofire, look for the slickness theme. i dont like it, but you may do. its all black
[07:17] <afroken> rdw200169, great! thanks
[07:18] <bsusa> hello can someone please help me with samba?
[07:18] <paul68> rdw200169: ok so if I understand you correctly then when I am at work and the SSID is there EBS I change the network from Linksys into EBS correct
[07:18] <MeVsTheVoices> Don't ask to ask, just ask
[07:18] <bsusa> i have 1 ubuntu machine and a Myrhbuntu machine and im trying to get samba working to views shares on each one, i have set it up and i cannot see anything. I dont understand what im doing wrong, can somone help me please
[07:18] <rdw200169> paul68, it's a pretty simple layout, you run the script, it checks what ssid is being used, according to NetworkManager, and based on the if statement that corresponds to the network name, it runs the function to either setup or teardown the proxy
[07:18] <chronofire> jim-p, alrite i will check it out
[07:18] <jim_p> chronofire, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Slickness+Black?content=73210
[07:18] <paul68> rdw200169: and how do I run this script automaticly?
[07:19] <kernel> oh SlicnesS theme is good.
[07:19] <rdw200169> if you tell me what the a) name of your wireless interface and b) the ssid's and which has a proxy, i can adjust the script accordingly
[07:19] <r-c> my backup problem now is with thunderbird mail backup, does anyone know how to backup the mail?
[07:19] <maodun> how can i get a package's info (like version information) via apt-get? for example, i know ubuntu has package libqt4-dev, but i would like extended information on that package (is it qt 4.1 or qt 4.3?).
[07:19] <MethinX> how do I send an instant message through the network to my other computer in terminal?
[07:19] <jim_p> maodun, apt-cache show packagename
[07:19] <Flannel> maodun: apt-cache show package (or showpkg for less description more packaging info)
[07:19] <jef_buntu> jim_p: ???
[07:20] <chronofire> jim_p hm not bad i guess but howcome it looks so much different then the other one? Tint and Conky are nothing visual?
[07:20] <jaaames> can someone help me fix my mbr so i can just boot windows, i broke grub using partition manager?
[07:20] <maodun> thanks jim_p and Flannel!
[07:20] <rdw200169> paul68, you can /msg me that if you wanat
[07:20] <jeeves_Moss> how do I recover everything in a directory that I just deleted by acident?
[07:20] <MethinX> how do I send an instant message through the network to my other computer in terminal?
[07:20] <rdw200169> paul68, then, you just run the script right quick to switch it, for example, this can be done in System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[07:21] <jim_p> chronofire, tint is a taskbar thing and conky is a system monitor
[07:21] <ph0t0nix> Hi all, I've got a printing problem here. I connected to an HP2420 laserjet which is detected alright. However it doesn't print. /var/log/messages shows errors related to ecryptfs
[07:21] <jeeves_Moss> how do I recover everything in a directory that I just deleted by acident?
[07:21] <ph0t0nix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/108479/
[07:21] <rdw200169> rdw200169, this is too simple to run in the background as a loop that is checking for what network it's on...
[07:21] <chronofire> jim_p ohhh okay i get it
[07:21] <paul68> rdw200169: wireless at work is EBS and has proxy wireless at home SSID thuis wireless interface is eth1
[07:21] <MethinX> does anyone know how to send instant message in terminal to other networked computers?
[07:22] <rdw200169> paul68, ok, gimme a sec, and i'll pastebin the change
[07:22] <jim_p> jef_buntu, can i pm you?
[07:22] <energY> How do I setup wireless thorugh terminaL?
[07:22] <paul68> rdw200169: ok thanks
[07:22] <ph0t0nix> energY: use iwconfig
[07:22] <afroken> rdw200169, what do you call the alt-tab function in compiz?
[07:23] <kernel> iwconfig
[07:23] <ph0t0nix> energY: and/or /etc/network/interfaces
[07:23] <chronofire> jim_p i like this theme http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GAIA?content=63246 is it hard to install it looks like it has several different things
[07:24] <energY> The keyring is asking me for the old password. Why?
[07:24] <nickrud> jim_p, in your sudden flurry of helping out, I'm not sure you got this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html it's the discussion about why there's no k8/k7 etc builds in ubuntu anymore
[07:25] <jim_p> nickrud, yea i noticed it. thanks
[07:25] <N3oXid> Hi everyone.
[07:25] <energY> Hi N3oXid.
[07:26] <jim_p> chronofire, just download the 1st link and the one that says metacity next to it
[07:26] <N3oXid> Is someone using a wusb600n WiFi usb key with intrepid ?
[07:26] <jim_p> chronofire, if you care, i use shiftie july redmond since last summer. i find it nice
[07:26] <N3oXid> I can't get this WiFi usb key working...
[07:27] <jaaames> guys, i've broken grub, and my cd drive is broken so i can use my windows cd to fix my mbr, any suggestiosn?
[07:27] <chronofire> jim_p sorry dont kno what that is. is it a theme>?
[07:27] <Gnea> hey guys, what's the command to see what command that's not installed belongs to a package?
[07:28] <jim_p> chronofire, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiftie+July+Redmod?content=87359
[07:28] <Flannel> Gnea: apt-file
[07:28] <jim_p> Gnea, apt-file? but it will take ages to update its db before searching
[07:29] <Flannel> Gnea: packages.ubuntu.com may be easier (second fieldset)
[07:29] <energY> Can I remove all the sources from the repo list?
[07:29] <MethinX> does anyone know how to send instant message in terminal to other networked computers?
[07:29] <Flannel> energY: you could, but it wouldn't be very useful.
[07:29] <N3oXid> I can see a new interface (ra0), since I havec loded the correct module, but the WiFi dosent work.
[07:29] <chronofire> jim_p cool im going to see if i can get these to work
[07:29]  * Gnea installs and runs apt-file update
[07:29] <energY> Flannel: Why not?
[07:29] <Gnea> Flannel: thanks :)
[07:29] <rdw200169> paul68, http://paste.ubuntu.com/108481/
[07:29] <Flannel> energY: Because you'd.... never get any updates?  Oh, you mean deb-src?
[07:29] <Gnea> jim_p: not worried about it taking awhile
[07:29] <energY> Flannel: I can't compile, and apt-get update is slooow...
[07:30] <rdw200169> paul68, you should test it real quick on the terminal, i.e. python file.py or whatever
[07:30] <energY> Flannel: yes, the ones with sourcecode. That is about haf of my repos.
[07:30] <Flannel> energY: Right, deb-src, yeah, remove those without thinking twice.
[07:30] <jim_p> chronofire, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiftie+July?content=83591             this is what my bro has
[07:30] <MethinX> does anyone know how to send instant message in terminal to other networked computers?
[07:30] <Gnea> energY: what are you on? a 486?
[07:30] <MeVsTheVoices> MethinX: Wall
[07:30] <tijoev> aloha
[07:30] <MethinX> whats wall?
[07:30] <MeVsTheVoices> MethinX: Bottom of 'man wall'
[07:30] <MethinX> ok thanks
[07:30] <tijoev> having trouble with 8.10 install
[07:30] <paul68> rdw200169: thanks under what name do I save this file?
[07:30] <rdw200169> paul68, you can even switch around what it does in the bottom of the file to see if it works right, i.e. if switch 'var_proxy_on' woth 'var_proxy_off' the test will change
[07:31] <chronofire> jim_p yea these look cool but i cant get them to work lol im new to this
[07:31] <transporter> can somebody help me cairo clock does not open up as normal user but opens up as root error msg in terminal (cairo-clock:6753): librsvg-CRITICAL **: rsvg_handle_render_cairo_sub: assertion `handle != NULL' failed
[07:31] <Gnea> tijoev: please explain
[07:31] <rdw200169> paul68, whatever you want
[07:31] <jim_p> chronofire, why?
[07:31] <rdw200169> paul68, for example, i used netman.py
[07:31] <tijoev> first off, the partion program sees my ide drives as scsi
[07:31] <tijoev> i get sda, sdb, sdc, and sdd instead of hda, hdb, hdc, and hda
[07:31] <Gnea> tijoev: that's normal, it's using a scsi-emulation. it's a good thing.
[07:31] <tijoev> ok
[07:32] <rdw200169> paul68, the bang at the top (#!/usr/bin/python) tells bash it's a python file, so if you give it execute (chmod +x) it will run w/python, even if you don't give it an extension
[07:32] <energY> Gnea: Why is it emulating scsi?
[07:32] <tijoev> do I leave grub set to the default hd(0) or change it to sdc?
[07:32] <Gnea> tijoev: the way it works now, every storage device is now scsi, so it all gets put in a chain, so you can throw ide, sata and scsi at it and it'll just order them neatly
[07:32] <rdw200169> paul68, this can also run as user, so you don't need to use sudo
[07:33] <rdw200169> paul68, since it's only changing a gconf setting (yay!)
[07:33] <Gnea> tijoev: it should be whatever sdc is mapped to in /boot/grub/device.map
[07:33] <chronofire> jim_p im just not sure what i am supposed to do with the files i tried to put them in my template folder then open them
[07:33] <transporter> can somebody help me cairo clock does not open up as normal user but opens up as root error msg in terminal (cairo-clock:6753): librsvg-CRITICAL **: rsvg_handle_render_cairo_sub: assertion `handle != NULL' failed
[07:33] <paul68> rdw200169: ok and now I just adapt it in my sessions and tell it to run and then I should be good to go right?
[07:33] <tijoev> can't tell because I cannot boot
[07:33] <rdw200169> paul68, it works in 8.04, it may throw dbus errors in 8.10, i don't know, if it does, i'm sorry
[07:33] <rdw200169> paul68, test it in the terminal real quick
[07:34] <paul68> rdw200169: no problem ok
[07:34] <Gnea> energY: sanity.
[07:34] <rdw200169> paul68, if it doesn't have any errors, then yes
[07:34] <Gnea> tijoev: then I'm not sure where you're at in the installation process...
[07:34] <rdw200169> paul68, the only problem is, that it must actually be connected to a wireless network to work, sometimes, NetworkManager doesn't connect until *after* the session starts
[07:34] <tijoev> well, I partion my HDs then move forward
[07:34] <chronofire> jim_p i tried to install this one i sent you and its only chaning the top of windows
[07:35] <tijoev> set up a user account and password
[07:35] <Gnea> okay
[07:35] <jim_p> chronofire, extract them until you have a file with the themes name, and one or two subfolders inside it, named metacity and gtk2
[07:35] <tijoev> then there is a screen that reviews entries
[07:35] <rdw200169> paul68, what you can do, is put a launcher on your taskbar to run that script, or, you can make a cronjob to run that script every 5 minutes or something
[07:35] <paul68> rdw200169: ok
[07:35] <tijoev> there is an advanced button for grub and proxy setup
[07:35] <jim_p> chronofire, then this is the window border theme.
[07:35] <Gnea> right
[07:35] <tijoev> I click the buuton for grub and point it at sdc
[07:35] <chronofire> jim_p shouldnt more have changed then just the border
[07:36] <tijoev> which has all my necessary partitions
[07:36] <paul68> rdw200169: thanks my friend I will play arround with it and let you know what the outcome is work is calling again lol
[07:36] <rdw200169> paul68, good luck!
[07:36] <tijoev> then I continues with the install
[07:36] <tijoev> get to the restart button
[07:36] <jim_p> chronofire, what file did you download?
[07:36] <tijoev>  restart
[07:36] <paul68> rdw200169: thanks and see you next time
[07:37] <rdw200169> paul68, if you look closely at the script, it's pretty self explanatory (at least i tried to make it that way) so you can make chagnes
[07:37] <paul68> rdw200169: I saw it thanks
[07:37] <tijoev> and the boot fails at a revalidation error
[07:37] <Gnea> tijoev: see if you can separate your steps with commas or something, you're making the channel scroll needlessly, please.
[07:37] <tijoev> my though was grub
[07:37] <chronofire> jim_pthe first one and the one that said metal something next to it like you said now i have a folder called GTK 2.0 and one that has three tar.gz files
[07:37] <tijoev> ok
[07:37] <bullgard4> Last night I visited a local Ubuntu Club, used my laptop computer T42 with NetworkManager and left it hibernating. Today I thawed it at home in my LAN with DSL access. Now my T42 cannot ping to neighboring computer in this LAN and Firefox reports: "Firefox can't find the server at www.gnome.org." But Firefox at address  http://fritz.box.fon states also: "Internet connected since 25 min to IP address <IP_ADDRESS>." What goes wrong here?
[07:38] <Gnea> tijoev: so let me get this straight - you installed to sdc, and now grub is giving an error on boot? or is it trying to boot grub?
[07:38] <rdw200169> bullgard4, is there anything in /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:38] <jim_p> chronofire, extract EVERYTHING until you get to files and folders. no tar.gz anywhere
[07:39] <tijoev> well the boot fails. dunno if it is grub or boot. use to my old suse distro which used grub to boot
[07:39] <Gnea> bullgard4: did you re-init your network connection?
[07:40] <chronofire> jim_p alrite now i have 4 folders one gtk-2.0 then the rest are gaia4Gnome folders
[07:40] <Gnea> tijoev: and you're sure you install grub to the mbr of sdc?
[07:41] <jim_p> chronofire, give me the link again to download it andi will guide you with the same file
[07:41] <tijoev> tried installing grub to /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc/sdc1/. The same result
[07:41] <tijoev> sorry /dev/sdc2/ this my root partition
[07:41] <Gnea> tijoev: what is your boot order in the bios?
[07:42] <chronofire> jim_p okay thanks http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GAIA?content=63246
[07:42] <tijoev> not sure. i did not change anything in my bios. ubuntu recognized the old suse partition at sdc. just left them alone.
[07:43] <jim_p> chronofire, do you see that GAIA folder containing a gtk2 folder in it?
[07:43] <tijoev> does grub go to the root partition ?
[07:43] <chronofire> jim_p yea
[07:43] <Gnea> tijoev: you should check your bios and make sure that sdc (probably ide-2) is set to boot after CDROM, or however you have it setup
[07:44] <Gnea> tijoev: the boot order is very important. not usually, it should get installed to the mbr of the disk, not the partition, although it can
[07:44] <jim_p> chronofire, open a terminal, or alt+f2 and type                nautilus ~/.themes              and move that GAIA folder in there
[07:44] <Gnea> tijoev: but i have to go - check your boot order and make sure it's booting from the right device
[07:44] <jim_p> dpme
[07:44] <jim_p> done
[07:45] <tijoev> thanks will do.
[07:45] <chronofire> jim_p okay done
[07:46] <jim_p> chronofire, check if you have the theme then
[07:47] <trent1> hello
[07:47] <chronofire> jim_p how? by seeing if i can load it under the appearance preferences?
[07:47] <jim_p> yea
[07:47] <chronofire> it doesnt show up there
[07:48] <chronofire> or do i install it thru custom
[07:49] <bullgard4> Gnea: I do not know what do you mean by " re-init your network connection". Please elaborate.
[07:50] <insaneinside> hdd health question: a SMART raw value for Load_Cycle_Count of<PHONE_NUMBER>384 is a wee bit high for any internal drive, no?
[07:51] <chronofire> jim_p i got to someting again that says this theme will not look as intended becuase the required GTK+ theme engine is not installed
[07:51] <jim_p> chronofire, :'(
[07:51] <bullgard4> rdw200169: Yes. It's contents are: "search alien c-base.org cbrp.c-base.org c-base.org; nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[07:52] <chronofire> jim_p so what engine am i missing
[07:52] <rdw200169> bullgard4, can you use nslookup to find google.com?
[07:52] <chronofire> i tried installing several but none of themw orked
[07:52] <jim_p> chronofire, open a terminal and type this              cat .themes/GAIA/gtk-2.0/gtkrc | grep engine                and pastebin what it says
[07:53] <methods> HIRE ME PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!
[07:53] <M3TAPHYS1CS> anybody here have any idea what could be causing my laptop to restart over night? Im using the latest Ubuntu and have checked the power management settings and everything seems to be ok there..
[07:53] <methods> :] ???????????????????????????/
[07:53] <chronofire> ok
[07:54] <chronofire> jim_p it just says no such file or directory
[07:54] <histo> M3TAPHYS1CS, are you set to instlal update automatically or some script thats rebooting?
[07:54] <histo> M3TAPHYS1CS, You may want to check your logs in /var/log
[07:54] <M3TAPHYS1CS> hmm how can i check
[07:54] <M3TAPHYS1CS> ah ok
[07:54] <bullgard4> rdw200169: (c-base is the name of the local Ubuntu computer club.) '~$ nslookup google.com; ;; connection timed out; no services could be reached."
[07:54] <jim_p> chronofire, omg! give me the link again!
[07:54] <histo> M3TAPHYS1CS, probably be in your syslog
[07:55] <chronofire> jim_p http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GAIA?content=63246
[07:55] <M3TAPHYS1CS> histo, what am i looking for?
[07:55] <rdw200169> bullgard4, there's something wrong in your network setup, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:55] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Can i put my own menus on mt taskbars? o
[07:55] <histo> M3TAPHYS1CS, look back to a time in the middle of the night and see what happened right before it restarded
[07:56] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Can i put my own menus on mt taskbars?  i cant find a option to add to panel menu.
[07:56] <bullgard4> rdw200169: No, I cannot ping <IP_ADDRESS>.
[07:56] <rdw200169> you're gonna have to reinitiate your dhcp lease, most likely
[07:56] <M3TAPHYS1CS> intresting, theres logs labeled MARK pretty much every hour throughout the night histo
[07:57] <bullgard4> rdw200169: I canot even ping my neighboring computer in the same LAN.
[07:57] <histo> BULLE, neither can I
[07:57] <rdw200169> bullgard4, yeah, try ifdown <interfacename>
[07:57] <rdw200169> bullgard4, then ifup <interfacename>
[07:57] <histo> bullgard4, wth is <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:57] <rdw200169> histo, it was the dns server reported by his resolv.conf file
[07:58] <bullgard4> histo: <IP_ADDRESS> is an Internet address.
[07:58] <MethinX> any good torrent applications?
[07:58] <histo> rdw200169, thats a weird IP.  Have him try to use <IP_ADDRESS>  as his dns address
[07:58] <histo> bullgard4, its not responding though.  There is a problem with your DNS
[07:58] <M3TAPHYS1CS> Methinkx, kTorrent is pretty good
[07:58] <rdw200169> histo, it's likely whatever the dhcp server gave him, but i think he's on the wrong subnet anyway, so renew dhcp address
[07:58] <histo> bullgard4, try using <IP_ADDRESS> for dns
[07:58] <MethinX> thnx
[07:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> <IP_ADDRESS> doesnt exist.
[07:59] <jim_p> chronofire, it uses the picmap and mist theme engines. open synaptic and install             gtk2-engines-qtpixmap            and            gtk2-engines-mist
[07:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> When pinging to check connections, ping google.com or somethiong like that.
[07:59] <rdw200169> CoUrPsE|DeAd, it was probably on their private subnet, he had the computer at lug meeting, who knows what they did that
[07:59] <rdw200169> CoUrPsE|DeAd, we did that early
[07:59] <rdw200169> CoUrPsE|DeAd, didn't work
[07:59] <jim_p> chronofire, select some other theme meanwhile
[08:00] <chronofire> jim_p i think i did this altready bur le me check again
[08:00] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Tried setting nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:00] <Burning> hey guys how are we all
[08:01] <histo> CoUrPsE|DeAd, thats what I was trying to have them do. But i'm tied up right now. <IP_ADDRESS> is one that can be used temporarily but it looks like he has dns problem.
[08:01] <rdw200169> CoUrPsE|DeAd, networking doesn't even work, so resolv.conf is a dead issue
[08:01] <M3TAPHYS1CS> histo: i may have just lost wireless connection that caused wget to close, is there a way i can disable the prompt asking me to enter a password?
[08:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Cant ping local ips either?
[08:01] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> does ifconfig return a local ip?
[08:01]  * rdw200169 waves fist at Timewarner Cable, for the third time (today)
[08:02] <rdw200169> CoUrPsE|DeAd, let's try dhcp'ing a new address first, this is the quickest way to a solution at this juncture
[08:02] <rdw200169> bullgard4, any luck?
[08:02] <Burning> hey guys how come my audio devices aint working?
[08:02] <vasek> hello)
[08:02] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Sure, sounds like its been set manually thou, so dhcp wont do crack, sounds like the ip and submask are for a diff network, hence no replys fromy anythinng.
[08:03] <vasek> HELLo
[08:03] <rdw200169> CoUrPsE|DeAd, how do you know that?? you should ask him first!
[08:03] <Burning> Could some one help me...
[08:03] <chronofire> jim_p well i did have them both installed yet i get the same thing
[08:04] <chronofire> jim_p im just gna try tomorrow i spent all night trying to get this and it hasnt come out right now its late
[08:04] <jim_p> chronofire, i quit. chose one of the shiftie themes i showed you, they did not ask for eny engine to be installed
[08:04] <jim_p> chronofire, oh ok
[08:04] <jim_p> goodnight
[08:05] <bullgard4> rdw200169, histo I run '~$ sudo ifdown eth0'. I run '~$ sudo ifup eth0'. '~$ ping <IP_ADDRESS>' works all right returning 70 ms.
[08:05] <chronofire> jim_p im not gunna lie lol those theme are one of the reasons i installed ubuntu
[08:05] <Pytlask> Is anybody aware of how to get HDAPS working? I'm using kernel 2.6.27-9-generic, and from everything I can find, it *should* work there (this is with a Lenovo T61 ThinkPad)
[08:06] <jim_p> chronofire, a theme?? and not compiz or something?
[08:06] <rdw200169> bullgard4, you should be on the interwebs now
[08:06] <rdw200169> bullgard4, can you ping google.com
[08:06] <Flak> Hey, would someone be willing to take a quick look at this? Basically - I am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop. Here's what has happened: http://pastebin.com/m337e37dc
[08:07] <chronofire> jim_p well both i saw lot of nice screen shots and i wanted something like it
[08:07] <RabbitG> hello
[08:08] <jim_p> chronofire, can i show you mine then?  http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/903/screenshotaq8.png
[08:08] <Flannel> Flak: Do you have any other computers you can try to verify the CDs with?
[08:08] <jim_p> i have only changed the desktop icons since then
[08:08] <RabbitG> I have a problem, why does eclipse run so slowly under ubuntu
[08:09] <neil_d> Flannel: have you check md5 checksums ?
[08:09] <RabbitG> I have a problem, why does eclipse run so slowly under ubuntu?
[08:09] <jim_p> RabbitG, did you set which java binary to use?
[08:09] <Flak> Flannel, none that have *nix installed, i have a windows XP machine that showed the 'Switch to Ubuntu!' window on the x64 CD
[08:09] <rdw200169> jim_p, very swank
[08:09] <BlackDalek> what is usplash?
[08:09] <spawn> how do i overwrite a file
[08:10] <RabbitG> java version "1.6.0_10"
[08:10] <Flannel> Flak: you don't need *nix installed, its an option on the CD (the boot menu, you know it)  boot to the CD, choose "Check CD for Defects"
[08:10] <Flannel> spawn: With what?
[08:10] <bullgard4> rdw200169: I cannot ping google.com. (But I can ping it from the neighboring computer in the same LAN.) I believe this is caused from the wrong address in resolv.conf.
[08:10] <chronofire> jim_p pretty nice
[08:10] <Flannel> !usplash | BlackDalek
[08:10] <jim_p> rdw200169, thanks. i now have a debian logo as a wall, got tired of cars :P
[08:10] <jim_p> thanks chronofire
[08:10] <Flak> Flannel, ah yes, I know it too well. I haven't tried it on another machine - my only other one has been connected to irc screaming for help :)
[08:10] <Flannel> BlackDalek: Its the artwork displayed while booting (The Ubuntu logo with the orange progress bar)
[08:11] <spawn> Flannel http://pastebin.com/m26cf5337
[08:11] <rdw200169> bullgard4, the dhcp server *SHOULD* have issued the correct address! what address are they using?
[08:11] <trent1> well i just installed ubuntu on my computer for the first time, and i must say i like it very much. except i have these six lines going down my screen that flicker
[08:11] <RabbitG> can somebody help me with this problem
[08:11] <RabbitG> I have a problem, why does eclipse run so slowly under ubuntu?
[08:11] <RabbitG> java version "1.6.0_10"
[08:11] <rdw200169> bullgard4, hold on, lemme get you the address for opendns
[08:11] <error404notfound> can I copy a file to a smaba shared without even mounting it?
[08:11] <BlackDalek> ok fanx
[08:12] <energY> error404notfound: Think so, smb4k
[08:12] <jim_p> RabbitG, yea, but is the system configured to use that java?
[08:12] <rdw200169> bullgard4, change it to this: <IP_ADDRESS>