[12:00] <P229> spermite: so, unless you have /boot on its own partition, / should be ext3
[12:00] <_twitch_> it does the CD part
[12:00] <Seveas> You can mount it rw, but you can't actually write
[12:00] <_twitch_> then it does the next part
[12:00] <Seveas> (iirc)
[12:00] <_twitch_> and theni t happens
[12:00] <aaron__> alrighty, i installed 5.10, im on it, but its detecting the onboard sound card, not the sb live 24, can i get some help!
[12:00] <_twitch_> im on a 56k with a winmodem
[12:00] <P229> Seveas: I know :) but I've noticed some people insist upon using reiserfs
[12:00] <[LethAL] > Seveas, Oh... phew... no fscking things up then...
[12:00] <_twitch_> and i told it i'd configure the network later
[12:00] <Seveas> aaron__, easiest: disable the onboard in the bios
[12:00] <Scrawny1> ok I'm d/ling it now thx Seveas :)
[12:00] <stylus_2> I need help with installation and audio stuff on ubuntu, someone please quiery me
[12:00] <bluegene007> i posted the problem in bugzilla and the result was fan is controlled by BIOS not OS because nothing available in /proc/acpi/fan but it's working normally in windows
[12:00] <_twitch_> i did the same with a friend's pc
[12:00] <crimsun> WebLOCH: yes?
[12:00] <_twitch_> it went straight to the login.
[12:01] <WebLOCH> crimsun, i gots audiowoes again, bit different this time
[12:01] <cusco> !sunjava
[12:01] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[12:01] <aaron__> lol, i had a hell of a bad time installing 5.10, but its all good now, redid everything
[12:01] <spermite> P229 what should /home be?
[12:01] <P229> Seveas: are there any plans for ubuntu to ship with selinux and have it enabled by default?
[12:01] <nxv_> Seveas: i removed all with the name postgres: apt-get remove postgres* and then installed postgresql-7.4
[12:01] <marska> Hey dude! I can't play mp3 files, why?
[12:01] <Seveas> P229, fortunately no direct plans
[12:01] <marska> Dude?
[12:01] <WebLOCH> crimsun, got it running fine for about two days, now after rebooting ive noticed that I cant playback in xmms through "OSS" or "ALSA"
[12:01] <teebonez> hi
[12:01] <Seveas> !mp3
[12:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:01] <P229> spermite: /home should be whatever you want it to be... I advise ext3
[12:01] <spermite> i got 3 ext3 dont look right
[12:02] <crimsun> WebLOCH: hoary or breezy?
[12:02] <WebLOCH> crimsun, hoary
[12:02] <nxv_> Seveas: didn't work no process listening at the right port no script to start it from /etc/init.d/
[12:02] <P229> spermite: huh?
[12:02] <marska> P229, I always thought /home was where the heart was?
[12:02] <crimsun> WebLOCH: are you using an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf?
[12:02] <tovella> _twitch_: what does cycling the power do?
[12:02] <WebLOCH>  crimsun, err dont really know to be honest, whats the diff
[12:02] <Seveas> I have postmaster listening at 5432
[12:02] <P229> marska: I don't know about you, but my heart isn't formatted with any fs ;)
[12:03] <[LethAL] > LOL
[12:03] <_twitch_> cycling the power?
[12:03] <nxv_> Seveas: something must be broken here, but what might be the reason
[12:03] <bluegene007> i posted the problem in bugzilla and the result was fan is controlled by BIOS not OS because nothing available in /proc/acpi/fan but it's working normally in windows should i wait for breezy final to be fixed
[12:03] <Flinty> any good resources for a Ubuntu n00b to read upon ?
[12:03] <marska> P229, I guess if you format with NTFS, Microsoft owns your soul?
[12:03] <Seveas> dunno, run /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 manually
[12:03] <crimsun> WebLOCH: XMMS should work through the esound output, no?
[12:03] <P229> Seveas: heh, "fortunately?" I agree it can be a hellishly severe headache, but still :)
[12:03] <Seveas> marska, lol :)
[12:03] <[LethAL] > Flinty, wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:03] <linuxmonkey> help, im trying to compile the modules for rtl8180 and im getting *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.   Can anyone help me, am I missing something
[12:03] <Flinty> ty
[12:03] <spermite>  /boot - ext3 -- /home- ext3/  --and  /root ext3 does that matter?
[12:03] <WebLOCH> crimsun, yeah it does
[12:04] <tovella> _twitch_: turn off the power at the switch, leave it off for 30 seconds or so, then turn the power back on, AKA "cold boot"
[12:04] <teebonez> spermite, no
[12:04] <P229> marska: perhaps /me shrugs
[12:04] <spermite> ok
[12:04] <DavidLeeRoth> what is the command for updating?
[12:04] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, use make, not make modules
[12:04] <nxv_> Seveas: no runscript 4 postgres in /etc/init.d
[12:04] <crimsun> WebLOCH: is the esound output not up to snuff for you?
[12:04] <_twitch_> it goes to boot up
[12:04] <Seveas> nxv_, hmm
[12:04] <linuxmonkey> lethal I did and get same error
[12:04] <P229> spermite: looks ok, I think
[12:04] <_twitch_> boots up
[12:04] <_twitch_> when its about to go into gnome
[12:04] <_twitch_> i get that screen.
[12:04] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, Is there a /ko file in the dir?
[12:04] <_twitch_> the live CD wont work either
[12:04] <[LethAL] > .ko*
[12:04] <WebLOCH> crimsun, well its just the fact that the ALSA and OSS modules worked yesterday and notr today that leads me to feel something is wrong and needs sorting
[12:04] <_twitch_> does the same thing.
[12:05] <karimw786> can someone point me in the right direction: i have XP-Ubuntu dual boot, I would like to remove Ubuntu and go back to 100% XP.
[12:05] <P229> spermite: mine partitioning is as follows... /boot(ext3) /(ext3) /home(ext3)
[12:05] <nxv_> what is the cleanest installation 4 breezy? insert cd install ubuntu sever version switch sources.list to breezy and then install the rest?
[12:05] <Seveas> dennis@blackbird ~ $ dpkg -S /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4
[12:05] <Seveas> postgresql-7.4: /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4
[12:05] <linuxmonkey> yes there is 8180_26_private.ko
[12:05] <P229> karimw786: where did you install the grub bootloader?
[12:05] <bam_> boot into the windows recovery console
[12:05] <crimsun> WebLOCH: switch to the ALSA output and tell me the error you get
[12:05] <Lie-Algebra> hi, when mounting a cd/dvd recorder, do I have to use the option "ro" or the option "rw" in the fstab file?
[12:05] <spermite> P229 =0)
[12:06] <bam_> then there is a command for restoring the mbr, google for it
[12:06] <WebLOCH> crimsun, "Cant open audio"
[12:06] <Scrawny1> so why do I get this line when I do an update for the java backport?
[12:06] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, try sudo insmod 8180_26_private.ko
[12:06] <Scrawny1> E: Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[12:06] <crimsun> WebLOCH: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[12:06] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, don't kill me if it doesn't work
[12:06] <bam_> this will kill any changes made to it
[12:06] <karimw786> P229: MBR is ewhere grub is installed
[12:06] <P229> bam_: if the windows bootloader in the MBR is still intact, he could toggle the boot flag on hd0,0
[12:06] <tovella> _twitch_: sounds like there may be a video or a memory problem with your hardware.
[12:06] <bam_> yea he could
[12:06] <linuxmonkey> i dont think it will ..lol
[12:06] <bam_> but, this is prolly easier
[12:07] <tovella> _twitch_: have you tried the memory test option?
[12:07] <bam_> hek im just tring to get samba to work with my z
[12:07] <_twitch_> na, should i?
[12:07] <Scrawny1> Seveas can I pm ya' a min pls :)
[12:07] <P229> karimw786: yep, you'll need to startup into the windows recovery console... research fixmbr
[12:07] <Phr0stByte> How ca I test what ports are open and usable on my system ?
[12:07] <bam_> there ya go
[12:07] <aaron__> its detecting the card now, and all that, but still no sound coming out of it
[12:08] <tovella> _twitch_: try the recovery mode option, first.
[12:08] <[LethAL] > P229, karimw786 It's just fixmbr in the recovery console
[12:08] <karimw786> ok thanks P229
[12:08] <WebLOCH> crimsun, sorry :(
[12:08] <linuxmonkey> insmod: error inserting '8180_26_private.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[12:08] <_twitch_> you think it might be the card?
[12:08] <cusco> Seveas:
[12:08] <cusco> Err http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ubuntu-seveas/breezy-extras w32codecs 1:20050412-0.0 401 Unathenticated
[12:08] <aaron__> no, cause ive got windows on the same pc and it works great
[12:08] <P229> karimw786: whatever you do, don't kill ubuntu until you've done fixmbr
[12:08] <WebLOCH> crimsun,   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2522
[12:08] <tovella> _twitch_: perhaps
[12:08] <P229> karimw786: and have verified that you can get into windows without grub
[12:08] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, which kernel you on (uname -r)
[12:09] <Scrawny1> I'm almost tempted to go to breezy rite now
[12:09] <linuxmonkey> hrmm hold a sec
[12:09] <aaron__> trust me its nice
[12:09] <P229> [LethAL] : thanks... it's been so long (thank God!)
[12:09] <concept10> I just dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy and now it says it can config xserver. Suggestions anyone?
[12:09] <tudor> my usb key is automounted in read only, how can I change that?
[12:09] <concept10> *it cant
[12:09] <[LethAL] > P229, I've only been using Linux for 2 weeks
[12:09] <linuxmonkey> na2.6.10-5-386
[12:09] <aaron__> so ive no clue what to do now, without sound and all
[12:10] <cusco> concept10: what heppens on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:10] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, Damn, I can't compile it for you
[12:10] <concept10> let me try that
[12:10] <karimw786> ok so just start windows in the recovery console, run fixmbr, then what?
[12:10] <tovella> _twitch_: cold boot the machine.  the grub menu list can be accessed using the escape key, when you see the prompt.  then you can select recovery mode.
[12:10] <P229> [LethAL] : so learning about fixmbr was a trial-by-error learning experience?
[12:10] <concept10> cusco I forgot, how do I get a new tty screen?
[12:10] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, try sudo aptitude build-essential linux-headers`uname -r`
[12:10] <[LethAL] > P229, Nope, I've never had to fix it because of Linux
[12:10] <_twitch_> thanks tovella
[12:10] <concept10> nevermind
[12:10] <cusco> concept10: alt + ctrl + F2
[12:11] <_twitch_> what should i be looking for in the memtest?
[12:11] <cusco> F3 F4
[12:11] <P229> [LethAL] : good deal
[12:11] <_twitch_> and/or recovery mode/
[12:11] <_twitch_> ?
[12:11] <tudor> anyone knows where the config is for the automount ?
[12:11] <Plazma> man i need a swift kick ni my ass, i have my ubuntu cd sitting here and a free partion, but im to damn lazy to do anything about it
[12:11] <barongas> I'm having some issues mounting an iso, when I mount it it says wrong fs type, bad option, etc etc so I check dmesg | tail and it says VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev loop0. and Unable to identify CD-ROM format. I'm not sure where to start...
[12:11] <tovella> _twitch_: look for a login prompt.  we just want to isolate your problem from the the graphics stuff.
[12:11] <[LethAL] > Plazma, you fool... wait... Do I know you?
[12:12] <_twitch_> ok, i have to go re-install ubuntu
[12:12] <_twitch_> :P
[12:12] <P229> barongas: you have to specify fs type
[12:12] <concept10> i never used bitchx before and cant scroll up cusco: what should I do again dpkg --reconfigure xserver?
[12:12] <_twitch_> ill be back in a bit, tovella.
[12:12] <chavo> barongas, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mnt/point
[12:12] <Plazma> bah
[12:12] <tovella> _twitch_: why, did you remove it, already?
[12:12] <Plazma> hmm
[12:12] <_twitch_> i had to format
[12:12] <barongas> P229 I used mount -o loop -t iso9660 /iso /point
[12:12] <_twitch_> i didnt know i could use the windows recovery disc to remove grub from the MBR, it wouldnt load windows
[12:12] <Plazma> Lethal, no you don't know me
[12:12] <concept10> Jan_: heh
[12:12] <_twitch_> anyway, so yeah
[12:12] <Jan_> I'm NOT joking
[12:12] <_twitch_> imma go re-install
[12:12] <chavo> you don't need the filesystem type
[12:13] <cusco> concept10: to scrool up would be alt+p (previoues) alt+n(next) it was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:13] <_twitch_> ive tried installing twice
[12:13] <[LethAL] > Plazma, Ok... I just have plazma on msn ;)
[12:13] <_twitch_> same thing both times
[12:13] <concept10> Jan_: im about to make that note myself
[12:13] <chavo> barongas, try it w/o filesystem type
[12:13] <linuxmonkey> duh ok looks like i was missing some tools
[12:13] <Plazma> Lethal, well being as that is, want my msn?
[12:13] <[LethAL] > If you want, but PM me it ... don't want nasty people getting it
[12:13] <Plazma> mmmm nuggets
[12:13] <_twitch_> tovella
[12:13] <Plazma> right
[12:13] <_twitch_> could i get yoru msn or something?
[12:14] <tovella> why does ubuntu seem to allow the first user name to hijack ownership of all the subsequently created user directories?  how can I stop this from occurring?
[12:14] <_twitch_> ill be back.
[12:14] <P229> barongas: did you try it without specifying fs type?
[12:14] <barongas> chavo I found the problem. Obviously these iso are special somehow. It's a playstation game and I think it might be a bin-file disguised as an iso
[12:14] <P229> did it work?
[12:15] <P229> ah
[12:15] <chavo> aha
[12:15] <Concord_Dawn> forums are down?
[12:15] <khermans> which is the right way to add a new user, useradd or adduser?
[12:15] <barongas> Is there a way to make bins turn into isos without the cue-file?
[12:15] <P229> khermans: useradd (adduser might work, too)
[12:15] <khermans> barongas, bin2iso
[12:15] <[pbC] Obst> hi
[12:16] <barongas> khermans sweet
[12:16] <drbrown> has anyone had any luck installing the ati proprietary driver?????
[12:16] <crimsun> WebLOCH: that's because esd is hogging the ALSA device
[12:16] <WebLOCH> crimsun, hmm how did that happen?  how can i stop it? and all that sort of business
[12:16] <khermans> barongas, http://users.andara.com/~doiron/bin2iso/
[12:16] <Concord_Dawn> forums are down?
[12:16] <crimsun> WebLOCH: beats me, I don't use Hoary, and I don't know what you did.
[12:16] <khermans> barongas,  bin2iso new.cue -c your.bin
[12:16] <Snoblower> can someone give me like... a private walkthrough on how to setup partitions? i don't have a clue what i'm doing and need some serious help.
[12:17] <tudor> anyone tried a usb hd? did it automount?
[12:17] <crimsun> tudor: yes, mine did
[12:17] <linuxmonkey> bah it still doesnt work, when i do make it gives me make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[12:17] <MrLaminar> hey everyone.
[12:17] <tristanmike> Snoblower, http://www3.telus.net/linux4u/ubuntu.html
[12:17] <tudor> crimsun: what permissions did it have?
[12:17] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: what in the world are you trying to do?
[12:17] <WebLOCH> crimsun, okay thanks for the help anyway
[12:17] <MrLaminar> i just upgraded hoary to breezy and have no sound, although xmms shows that it's playing
[12:17] <barongas> khermans checking it out
[12:17] <tudor> crimsun: was it read-only mounted?
[12:18] <crimsun> MrLaminar: cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:18] <crimsun> tudor: no, why?
[12:18] <khermans> barongas, it is not in the repos
[12:18] <MrLaminar> crimsun: 0 snd_cs46xx
[12:18] <tudor> crimsun: 'couse my usb-key gets automounted in read-only mode
[12:18] <WebLOCH> crimsun, just killed ESD and now all is sound again, thanks for assisting haha, ill try not to be so quick to ask next time
[12:18] <crimsun> tudor: did you modify /etc/fstab manually?
[12:18] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i have ubuntu right now, i need to figure out how to do it so that i can install windows xp
[12:19] <WebLOCH> Anyone have an intermediate to advance linux guide?  I think I'm ready for more reading
[12:19] <tristanmike> Snoblower, you should always install XP first
[12:19] <tristanmike> Snoblower, XP will rewrite the grub
[12:19] <tudor> crimsun: no, there's nothing in the fstab about it
[12:19] <crimsun> WebLOCH: there are a variety of resources on the Web; try the Ubuntu wiki, O'Reilly's Web site, ...
[12:19] <Phr0stByte> How ca I test what ports are open and usable on my system ?
[12:19] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i did install it first, but i haven't got a clue what i'm doing so i accidentally installed ubuntu over windows xp :(
[12:19] <concept10> Jan_: did you get your system working?
[12:19] <barongas> khermans the linux link on that page is broken :( I'll just google for it
[12:19] <MrLaminar> should i kill ESD too?!
[12:19] <WebLOCH> crimsun, I've tried the ubuntu wiki, i mean more advanced as I think i have the basics down
[12:19] <tristanmike> Snoblower, ahh, I see
[12:19] <crimsun> MrLaminar: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:19] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, check pm
[12:19] <WebLOCH> MrLaminar, don't kill anything lol
[12:20] <chavo> WebLOCH, man is man's best friend
[12:20] <khermans> barongas, wget http://users.andara.com/~doiron/bin2iso/bin2iso19b.c && gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso19b.c && sudo mv bin2iso /usr/bin
[12:20] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: do not pm me
[12:20] <Snoblower> tristanmike, can ya help a moron out?
[12:20] <WebLOCH> chavo,  yeah but man is only any good if you know WHAT you need to man
[12:20] <linuxmonkey>  ok what im trying to do is to get my wifi card to work.... its a stupid d-link dwl-610 and using realtek chipset, so with that said I downloaded the linux drivers and modified it as per instructions to my card model and then  try to compile it and get that error
[12:20] <WebLOCH> ive just learned about lsof from crimsun, but if i hadnt just asked, id have no idea about it
[12:21] <miguel> hola
[12:21] <tristanmike> Snoblower, how much space do you have?
[12:21] <miguel> alguien que este con deseo de charlar un poco
[12:21] <Snoblower> er.. i dunno :(
[12:21] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: I presume you installed build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) via apt-get?
[12:21] <concept10> gosh, I hope I dont have to reinstall
[12:21] <Snoblower> 40GB maybe
[12:21] <miguel> My Neme Is Miguel
[12:22] <miguel> I Living Santo domingo
[12:22] <Seveas> miguel, #ubuntu-es for spanish
[12:22] <Snoblower> tristanmike, 40GB i think, i'm not sure, i'm pretty new to the whole computer thing :)
[12:22] <miguel> yes
[12:22] <concept10> Jan_: you still here?
[12:22] <MrLaminar> crimsun, here's the paste: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2523
[12:22] <Darth> hi all
[12:22] <barongas> khermans: Hmmm it can't find io.h during the gcc part
[12:23] <miguel> seveas de donde eres
[12:23] <chavo> Hello miguel ,
[12:23] <miguel> hablas espao
[12:23] <miguel> hello chavo
[12:23] <chavo> vivo en Florida
[12:23] <tristanmike> Snoblower, I gotta go in a minute, but I suggest you start from scratch, installing XP first, just more learning for you, and select the size of the partiton you want XP to be during it's installer
[12:23] <[LethAL] > !es
[12:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:23] <miguel> How are roy
[12:23] <boxerboy29> the updates from colony4-5 is in our updates no?
[12:23] <miguel> you
[12:23] <Darth> Is anybody an experienced Ubuntu user when it comes to running it on an Apple IBook?
[12:23] <AR_Media> Hello, I just tried to su - and it gave me this error, setgid: Operation no permitted.  ummm, what?
[12:23] <crimsun> MrLaminar: what happens if you mute 'Headphone'?
[12:23] <Seveas> AR_Media, sudo
[12:23] <[LethAL] > !tell AR_Media about root
[12:23] <tristanmike> Snoblower, maybe like 10 gigs
[12:23] <boxerboy29> ar_media try sudo
[12:23] <AR_Media> I tried sudo
[12:23] <linuxmonkey> crimsun,  yes i have
[12:24] <bzimage> AR_Media, sudo <command to execute as root>
[12:24] <MrLaminar> crimsun, nothing. still no sound
[12:24] <Darth> Is anybody an experienced Ubuntu user when it comes to running it on an Apple IBook?
[12:24] <robin> I had a really hard time getting w32codec installed, found a debian repository that had it and it worked great, thanks to those who tried to help
[12:24] <AR_Media> it says....   sudo: must be setuid root
[12:24] <Seveas> AR_Media, then you messed something up badly
[12:24] <tudor> crimsun: you have any idea how to change permissions on automountable drives?
[12:24] <Rich43> You still going on about sudo
[12:24] <Rich43> Joking
[12:24] <khermans> barongas, instead try this one
[12:24] <AR_Media> I didn't touch anything
[12:24] <khermans> http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/bin2iso/bin2iso.c
[12:24] <Rich43> its the most basic command!
[12:25] <crimsun> tudor: do you mean files and directories on mounted partitions?
[12:25] <[LethAL] > Rich43, Get out... you know nothing about Ubuntu
[12:25] <Seveas> AR_Media, ls -al $(which sudo)
[12:25] <Snoblower> tristanmike, thanks
[12:25] <Seveas> put the output in a private chat
[12:25] <Darth> Can anybody help me?
[12:25] <AR_Media> which sudo?
[12:25] <tristanmike> Snoblower, or 15 GB, if you have 15GB make linux 10 GB and have a 15 GB FAT drive to move files back and forth
[12:25] <[LethAL] > Rich43, you haven't even used it
[12:25] <bzimage> Darth, shoot
[12:25] <bzimage> :)
[12:25] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, both those packages are installed
[12:25] <tudor> crimsun: I mean when it automounts my usb-key it should do it in rw mode
[12:26] <MrLaminar> crimsun, still no sound...
[12:26] <Snoblower> tristanmike, any idea where i can get info about reinstalling windows xp, i tried earlier and screwed a lot of stuff up :(
[12:26] <Darth> bzimage: im trying to detect the wifi card I have in my Ibook but for some reason Ubuntu is not picking it up, Im using the LiveCD right now....
[12:26] <crimsun> MrLaminar: in a Terminal: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx
[12:26] <tristanmike> Snoblower, that's how I did it, but it took me a few installs of XP and Ubuntu before I got it just right
[12:26] <crimsun> MrLaminar: then use the Volume Control or alsamixer to unmute Master and PCM
[12:26] <tristanmike> Snoblower, what did it screw up?
[12:26] <moparfan90> hello. does anyone know a irc channel for linux games?
[12:26] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: is it necessary to pass the path of the kernel headers to configure or make?
[12:27] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, playing Windows games on Linux or actual Linux games?
[12:27] <MrLaminar> crimsun, master and pcm are unmuted. trying out your command right now...
[12:27] <Darth> any ideas bzimage?
[12:27] <moparfan90> both
[12:27] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i chose boot from cd, then deleted everything off HD (I think) then it told me to insert OS "blue" disc, so i did, but it kept ejecting it as though it was the wrong disc
[12:27] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, /list
[12:27] <[LethAL] > ;)
[12:27] <Snoblower> tristanmike, the discs that i was given were burnt, so that might have something to do with it, i dunno
[12:27] <tristanmike> OS "blue" ? do you have a Dell or something?
[12:27] <Snoblower> gateway
[12:28] <Snoblower> i got it real cheap =D
[12:28] <DavidLeeRoth> i have a gateway 7510GX
[12:28] <tristanmike> Snoblower, did XP come with it?
[12:28] <butcherbird> I would be interested to know if anyone is using a webcam that hoary/breezy automatically detected.  Checked wiki but so far not much on individual models
[12:28] <MrLaminar> crimsun, here's the output: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2524
[12:28] <barongas> khermans: Got it compiled nicely now. Just waiting to see wether it works or not
[12:28] <Snoblower> tristanmike, xp was the original OS
[12:28] <bzimage> butcherbird, yes i have
[12:28] <khermans> barongas, it works :-)
[12:28] <butcherbird> bzimage, know what model offhand?
[12:28] <tovella> does anyone know why does ubuntu seem to allow the first user to hijack ownership of all the subsequently created user directories?  how can I stop this from occurring?
[12:28] <khermans> barongas, let me know though
[12:28] <tristanmike> Snoblower, yes, but did your computer come with it preinstalled, or did you buy it, do you have the OS disks for your machine?
[12:28] <barongas> khermans, correction: Wether my file is a real bin or whatever it is :)
[12:28] <tudor> butcherbird: the philips toUcam pro works
[12:29] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, im not sure in the make file there is KVER := $(shell uname -r)    KSRC := /lib/modules/$(KVER)/build    but there is no build folder there
[12:29] <crimsun> MrLaminar: then you need to log out of GNOME, log in via a console, and run that command
[12:29] <tristanmike> Snoblower, or do you have a "real" copy of XP?
[12:29] <Snoblower> tristanmike, xp was on the computer when i got it, i have some discs that the guy who sold it to gave me, but like i said, they're burned
[12:29] <khermans> barongas, you coud always just open it up in a hex editor to see what format it is in
[12:29] <bzimage> butcherbird, not exactly... it's a philips pcvc 7something
[12:29] <[LethAL] > lmao... "real"
[12:29] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: there will be a build/ dir if you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed
[12:29] <ChrisTucker> when i try to get w32 codecs with multiverse, it gives this error: Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. How do i correct this?
[12:30] <butcherbird> ok thx guys.  Off to newegg =)
[12:30] <tristanmike> Snoblower, do you have an XP disc?
[12:30] <khermans> barongas, something like hexdump -C myfile.bin from cli, or use ghex2 to open it up in a GUI
[12:30] <noodlegraphy> Hello - Short Question - Forums is down right now or I'd look it up -  Have 2k installed, going to install ubuntu on another partition from instal disk, Install disk says it will delete everthing...Assuming this isn't exactly true yes? - can install ubuntu on dif partition without hurting 2k partion - Or is there a trick to be aware of?
[12:30] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i believe so, yes
[12:30] <tristanmike> Snoblower, and it's burned?
[12:30] <crimsun> ChrisTucker: w32codecs is not in multiverse for Breezy; it's in debian-marillat
[12:30] <silasj> hey, I [apt-get distupgrade]  and now I can't start X!!!
[12:30] <tovella> ChrisTucker: i think i got w32codecs from backports
[12:30] <Necrosan_> can i go direct to breezy from a brand new 5.04 install
[12:30] <Necrosan_> ?
[12:30] <barongas> khermans Cool. I'll experiment some with that. I've always been hexadecimally challenged but I'd like to try it on :)
[12:30] <tristanmike> tovella, they are gone from the Backports now
[12:31] <tovella> tristanmike: k
[12:31] <Darth> anybody runs Ubuntu on an Ibook?
[12:31] <bzimage> Chris_Tucker, it's in none official repos... due to legal issues...
[12:31] <khermans> hex is like sex
[12:31] <silasj> any xorgconfig ? I can't locate...
[12:31] <Snoblower> tristanmike, yes, it's burned
[12:31] <durt> Chris Tucker, or you can get it from here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[12:31] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, i had installed it using the add/remove programs in ubuntu, should i try re-installing or is there a better way of installing
[12:31] <goo> . o 0 ( http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html )
[12:31] <ChrisTucker> crimsun: tovella, bzimage, it appears its in backports then
[12:31] <tudor> butcherbird: pwc driver sources are in breezy for sure, it's easy to compile. I did it and the webcam works just fine.
[12:31] <barongas> khermans iso2bin worked like a dream :)
[12:32] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i actually have 3 discs, OS disc, applications, and drivers
[12:32] <khermans> barongas, yeah i know :-)
[12:32] <DavidLeeRoth> There are a lot of celebrities in here tonight! Chris Tucker, David Lee Roth, wow!
[12:32] <tristanmike> Chris_Tucker, http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ here is the w32codecs
[12:32] <ChrisTucker> lol
[12:32] <bzimage> ChrisTucker, no, there not in the backports or the official repositories of ubuntu..
[12:32] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: what did you install, linux-headers-$(uname -r)?
[12:32] <tristanmike> Snowblower, and they are burned discs or factory?
[12:32] <infoB> hello. HELP needed
[12:32] <[LethAL] > !helpme
[12:32] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[12:33] <noodlegraphy> Hello - Short Question - Forums is down right now or I'd look it up -  Have 2k installed, going to install ubuntu on another partition from instal disk, Install disk says it will delete everthing...Assuming this isn't exactly true yes? - can install ubuntu on dif partition without hurting 2k partion - Or is there a trick to be aware of?
[12:33] <linuxmonkey> i had the uname output so i went in and installed the one that matched
[12:33] <DavidLeeRoth> yeah, are we supposed to gather your problem via osmosis?
[12:33] <infoB> i want to install driver for graphics card
[12:33] <Snoblower> tristanmike, they're burned
[12:33] <DavidLeeRoth> Make/Model infob?
[12:33] <[LethAL] > infoB, I know about nvidia cards, but not about ATi
[12:33] <infoB> sis 650
[12:33] <unkn0wn2u> hey I can't get alsa to work as a normal non root user and when gnome starts it says something about hal failing
[12:33] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, wich would be linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[12:34] <DavidLeeRoth> you could use a generic driver
[12:34] <ChrisTucker> bzimage well i only have official repos, and this error came from that
[12:34] <DavidLeeRoth> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[12:34] <supergrover> noodle: you should be fine. Just be careful to choose the right options with partitioning etc
[12:34] <ChrisTucker> eeeewwwww torrents
[12:34] <ChrisTucker> eeeeeeeewwwww 13mb!
[12:34] <MrLaminar> hey crimsun, i logged out and ran the commands and it worked :) !!!
[12:34] <DavidLeeRoth> im torrenting right now
[12:34] <tristanmike> Snoblower, ok, I'm not familiar with manufacture disks like that, I've always used a Windows only CD, but it is ejecting itself?
[12:34] <infoB> found sis_drv.0 on manufacteror's site
[12:34] <MrLaminar> how do i make it permanent now?
[12:34] <[LethAL] > So am I
[12:34] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, oh i reinstalled it and it worked
[12:35] <crimsun> heh
[12:35] <infoB> [LethAL] , don;t know how to use modprobe
[12:35] <Snoblower> tristanmike, yea, it keeps saying "Insert OS blue disc" and i do that, then it must think it's the wrong disc and it ejects
[12:35] <linuxmonkey> crimsun,  thank you very much man you are a life saver
[12:35] <noodlegraphy> Supergrover - kewl... I've got 7 partitions now...last one being 15 gig for ubuntu, and others fat32 so it can read/write to them...  Thanks
[12:35] <tristanmike> Snoblower, have you tried the other disks?
[12:36] <linuxmonkey> thanx [LethAL]  too
[12:36] <Snoblower> tristanmike, yup
[12:36] <MrLaminar> crimsun, how can i make this change permanent?
[12:36] <ChrisTucker> ok, where is/do i get, the torrent app in ubuntu?
[12:36] <durt> gnome-bittorrent
[12:36] <supergrover> noodlegraphy: noworries have fun
[12:36] <StarterX> Hi, i am new on linux ,and i would like to install my printer (brother MFC 210c)  i have seen that brother released a driver for debian (similar to ubuntu i think)     but i dont know how to install a .deb  file ..any help ?
[12:37] <[LethAL] > No probalem linuxmonkey
[12:37] <Seveas> StarterX, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:37] <tristanmike> Snoblower, hmm, is there anyway you can get your hands on a copy of Windows?
[12:37] <StarterX> Seveas,  is it possible that it wont work as long as i
[12:37] <StarterX> ,m
[12:37] <StarterX> live cd
[12:37] <noodlegraphy> Supergrover - Rodger that - be time to start reading up the forums once there back online...  l8ter all
[12:38] <tristanmike> Snoblower, I have never seen an installation using disks like that, I'm sorry, so getting them to work is beyond me.
[12:38] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i dunno... but i'm pretty sure i have windows xp on the burned disc, i think i'm probably doing something wrong...
[12:38] <ChrisTucker> E: Couldn't find package gnome-bittorrent
[12:38] <silasj> running X now, thx!
[12:38] <joetheodd> How do I install a .deb file?
[12:38] <Seveas> StarterX, yes
[12:38] <ChrisTucker> durt: E: Couldn't find package gnome-bittorrent
[12:38] <StarterX> ?hm,ok
[12:38] <StarterX> thx
[12:38] <tristanmike> Snoblower, if you changed the BIOS to boot from disk then there isn't anything else I would imagine you could do wrong
[12:38] <unkn0wn2u> dpkg -i debfile
[12:38] <durt> gnome-bittorrent should already be installed christucker, run it in a terminal
[12:38] <[LethAL] > ubotu, installdeb is open a terminal, cd into the folder with the deb package in it and type sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:38] <ubotu> okay, [LethAL]
[12:38] <erUSUL> ChrisTucker: it is already instaled by default
[12:39] <tristanmike> Snoblower, sorry Ihave to go, good luck
[12:39] <Snoblower> k, thanks
[12:39] <[LethAL] > That'll save us some typing
[12:39] <ChrisTucker> bash: gnome-bittorrent: command not found
[12:39] <joetheodd> !sunjava
[12:39] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[12:39] <[LethAL] > Chris_Tucker, gnome-btdownload
[12:39] <ChrisTucker> durt: erUSUL bash: gnome-bittorrent: command not found
[12:40] <joetheodd> How do I install Sun's JRE on Warty?
[12:40] <crimsun> unkn0wn2u: please elaborate
[12:40] <ChrisTucker> thanks [LethAL]
[12:40] <WebLOCH> what!
[12:40] <WebLOCH> Java has been added to repos!?
[12:40] <concept10> I just updated to breezy and cant startx I get this: no screens found ... Suggestions?
[12:40] <durt> oops, sorry christucker
[12:40] <badgirl1> alalallalallalalla
[12:40] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, I think it involves apt-get dist-upgrade :P
[12:40] <erUSUL> ChrisTucker: gnome-btdownload, Open nautilus and right click in the torrent
[12:40] <badgirl1> aallallalallalallalallalallalallalallalallalallalallallaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:40] <satafterh> when is 5.10 due out??
[12:40] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Aw, please hug a 56ker =p
[12:40] <[LethAL] > October 13th
[12:41] <ChrisTucker> nautilus? no way, firefox :P
[12:41] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, shipit.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <badgirl1> lala;ldkl;ajiodioahuiofhauhuofioahiogishoihisdjifjiosjdijnvoidhfosihhioghiotoyiosjfofohaiohfsuidahofhgioshohgoiahgiohsuhgosihofuhsohfuoshaohdfouhgoshohgauohgsodihgiosdhgohsgdoshgdhogdiodguohgouhfoshosiohdifhgusdohauaoihsuhoaohfoahofsihghusaohfoauhfaosuhoofahfuoah
[12:41] <WebLOCH> Chris_Tucker, Firefox is decaying, try Opera
[12:41] <[LethAL] > Seveas, WAKE UP
[12:41] <jbroome> i get that a lot
[12:41] <unkn0wn2u> crimsun, ok i go to gnome-volume-control and all i see is oss as non first user but my first user i created can select alsa
[12:41] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Please hug a 56ker in a hurry =p
[12:41] <byen> i agree...opera is he way to go
[12:41] <durt> opera - yes
[12:41] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, hehe...ok
[12:41] <badgirl1> aoihfoaihoiahfoihfaiooifhaogfoafoaogfohafoifhififuhfaohfaogfogaogfohauohfouahuhofauhoauhohofuauhofhouafhoufahohaohoafofoaiofaaiofsioasiofaiofaohfhagfaoifaufoaifioaohfiaohfoianfaiohfioahufaoiahohfaoihfiahoiahfiohfaiosfiofasioufosufoddoidhsosusodiahufasohfsuhfuodsoaosfouhdodishsiofhusoshfudaoif ishhudhaod hushoaf suhsoihsfufouifsauosfuosohauofsfuouhffuoiodufouhsufdoauhofaouhfasouhfuodaouoosufsod
[12:41] <Seveas> sorry
[12:42] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, JRE is 20MB though...
[12:42] <durt> suck me dry badgirl1
[12:42] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : So basically I'm screwed until I download 200MB of stuff?
[12:42] <ChrisTucker> WebLOCH: NEVEEEEER! firefox will suffice, i have used opera in the past
[12:42] <boxerboy29> was that a person or a bot?
[12:42] <Seveas> durt, language...
[12:42] <satafterh> when 5.10 comes out will we be able just to upgrade so we dont have to reconfigure things ling video and tv out, it was alot of work lol
[12:42] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, java.com
[12:42] <erUSUL> ChrisTucker: you save the torrent in the hard-disc and then rightclick in it
[12:42] <spermite> anyone in here have a debian install?
[12:42] <Seveas> spermite, try #debian
[12:42] <WebLOCH> Chris_Tucker, Yeah I used to love Firefox, but it's just going downhill, it seems to be getting worse by the week, a bit like Azureus, thats getting awful now too
[12:42] <durt> opera is free now christucker - no ad bar
[12:42] <Seveas> satafterh, you can even upgrade now
[12:42] <[LethAL] > spermite, although be warned the atmosphere may not be as nice
[12:42] <unkn0wn2u> anyone know of a mplayerplug-in that has the buttons and stuff on it
[12:42] <Seveas> durt, free but still bad :)
[12:43] <WebLOCH> Seveas, you think firefox is better than opera?
[12:43] <crimsun> unkn0wn2u: that's pretty simple. The second user has to be added to the groups that the first user's in
[12:43] <Seveas> unkn0wn2u, the one in breezy has that
[12:43] <durt> better than firefox
[12:43] <Seveas> WebLOCH, yes
[12:43] <crimsun> unkn0wn2u: for instance, audio, video, ...
[12:43] <spermite> [LethAL]  turst me i know
[12:43] <durt> galeon is better than firefox too
[12:43] <WebLOCH> Seveas, but its slow and buggy
[12:43] <Seveas> operas css support is worse than IE
[12:43] <WebLOCH> durt, havent tried galeon
[12:43] <MrLaminar> crimsun, how can i make the change you proposed permanent?
[12:43] <Seveas> anyway - off-topic, let's not start a war
[12:43] <boxerboy29> i like firefox better than opera but neither work the way i like:(
[12:43] <WebLOCH> Seveas, from my experience in the office (web design office) opera is much better than IE
[12:43] <durt> !start a browser war
[12:43] <ubotu> dillo  is way better than mozilla !
[12:44] <[LethAL] > Nooo... stop the browser wars
 all the bugs are not worked out are they??
[12:44] <Seveas> satafterh, correct
[12:44] <whyameye> Is there some sort of file manager which associates file extensions with applications?
[12:44] <concept10> I just updated to breezy and cant startx I get this: no screens found ... Suggestions?
[12:44] <durt> can dillo do flash and java stuff?
[12:44] <linuxmonkey> wow im starting to think this will never work
[12:44] <unkn0wn2u> crimsun, I have /dev/dsp all the way open but I wish there was a program that said alsa uses /dev/dsp /dev/mixer etc you know say what the devs are for
[12:44] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Do I want RPM or Self Extracting?
[12:44] <Seveas> joe_alf, the latter
[12:44] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, self-Ex
[12:44] <Seveas> joetheodd*
[12:44] <Jan_> well, we got this laptop to hibernate.
[12:44] <WebLOCH> durt, me old sun, does Galeon support Mouse Gestures and Tabs ?
[12:44] <joetheodd> durt: lynx for the win, without a doubt.
[12:45] <joetheodd> [LethAL]  and Seveas, thanks.
[12:45] <durt> yes webloch
[12:45] <[LethAL] > No Problem
[12:45] <concept10> Seveas: any suggestions on how to fix xserver?
[12:45] <dabaR> You know what I need?I need a welcome screen for when I sign into gnome.
[12:45] <coarsesalt> first time here.. fourth ubuntu install in three weeks, this the place to get help?
[12:45] <Jan_> Getting it to RECOVER from hibernation is another matter.
[12:45] <moparfan90> how do you run a exucutabl in ubuntu? its a linux file? in console?
[12:45] <WebLOCH> durt, does it have plugins for flash etc ?
[12:45] <concept10> Jan_: did you have any problems with x after upgrade to breezy?
[12:45] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, is the icon a diamond-like shape?
[12:45] <dabaR> And glasses
[12:45] <durt> webloch, yeah its mozilla
[12:46] <boxerboy29> is there a java plug in for opera?
[12:46] <moparfan90> yeah
[12:46] <durt> joetheodd, yay for lynx ;P
[12:46] <dabaR> coarsesalt: with what?
[12:46] <Jan_> concept10: Not with X, but totem no longer works
[12:46] <Jan_> even as much as it ever did.
[12:46] <Jan_> So basically it's borked.
[12:46] <durt> boxerboy29 - yes
[12:46] <coarsesalt> I'm trying to figure out how to play .rnx files and the ubuntuforums seem to be down
[12:46] <Jan_> and it won't RECOVER from hibernation, just ENTER it. :(
[12:46] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, if double-clicking it doesn't work, open a terminal, cd to the directory and type ./file
[12:46] <moparfan90> o
[12:46] <[LethAL] > Jan_, Same here on my desktop
[12:46] <moparfan90> ok
[12:46] <boxerboy29> ok ty brb gonna look see if i cant get it
[12:46] <memei> How will I burn ubuntu.iso into a cd using cd-rw?
[12:47] <concept10> I cant get x to start, CLI only :(  it says it cant find any screens, I have a big ass 22inch monitor here
[12:47] <memei> I mean do I need to extract all those files?
[12:47] <[LethAL] > memei, right-click it in nautilus
[12:47] <[LethAL] > memei, Or are you on windows?
[12:47] <memei> yes
[12:47] <dabaR> coarsesalt: .rnx? Never heard of that, what is it?
[12:47] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Is ther any way to install the RPM? I already have that downloaded.
[12:47] <memei> I'm in windows.
[12:47] <moparfan90> i got this:  ./racer: error while loading shared libraries: libfmod-3.61.so: cannot open shar ed object file: No such file or directory
[12:47] <moparfan90>
[12:47] <Noah0504> I'm speaking to everyone from my nice, new, fresh install of Ubuntu.  My first step in making the Linux switch!
[12:47] <Jan_> How do I fix Totem, now?
[12:47] <moparfan90> what so i so?
[12:47] <Jan_> It's on about something to do with gstreamer.
[12:47] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Rather, I have the Sun Solutions disk.
[12:48] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, yes, but no idea what the command is
[12:48] <Jan_> Noah0504: I was in that position about two hours ago. It's downhill from here on.
[12:48] <coarsesalt> goes to real player, live audio feed with licensing on it
[12:48] <bimberi> Noah0504: OnYa! :)
[12:48] <concept10> dist-upgrade to breezy on sunday == failed experiment :)
[12:48] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, man alien might help
[12:49] <memei> I've alread ruined 2 cd's.
[12:49] <Jan_> rgh.
[12:49] <Snoblower> what's the command for me to get xfce 4?
[12:49] <concept10> Anyone know where Firefox sayves passwords?
[12:49] <Jan_> so doing a dist-upgrade broke Totem
[12:49] <memei> [LethAL] ?
[12:49] <linuxmonkey> can anyone tell me what the matter is, i get a bunch of warnings ... see it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2525
[12:49] <Jan_> Hibernate doesn't work.
[12:49] <[LethAL] > Snoblower, open Synaptic and search for it
[12:49] <Jan_> I don't see what else can go wrong
[12:49] <StarterX> jan- it CANT be thaT Bad
[12:50] <crimsun> MrNaughty: sudo alsactl store
[12:50] <[LethAL] > memei, google for CDBurnerXP
[12:50] <oggah> how do I get wdm as my default loginmanager? (instead of xdm)
[12:50] <memei> k
[12:50] <Jan_> StarterX: It'll hibernate, but not recover. Any clues?
[12:50] <concept10> exit
[12:50] <shekhar> can someone help me with a booting problem in hoary?
[12:50] <StarterX> well, never used hibernate..so
[12:50] <StarterX> :\
[12:50] <[LethAL] > shekhar, go on?
[12:51] <coarsesalt> dadaR: it's part of the sign in from http://account.real.com
[12:51] <bimberi> shekhar: just describe the problem and if someone knows they'll try to help
[12:51] <whyameye> if I want the file manager to automatically choose the app to use based on the extension of the file, what would I call from the command line?
[12:52] <[LethAL] > whyameye, right click the file and choose open with
[12:52] <shekhar> [LethAL] , bimberi, my ubuntu starts up fine, but spends about 5 minutes on 'metacity window manager' when starting gnome
[12:52] <AdmiralCrunch> Is anyone else on Breezy having trouble with the latest ATI drivers?
[12:52] <[LethAL] > shekhar, How fast is your CPU?
[12:52] <Janix> hihi all
[12:52] <oggah> how do I get wdm as my default loginmanager? (instead of xdm)..
[12:52] <shekhar> [LethAL] , bimberi, this is a brand new machine, 2.15 ghz
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> er
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> gdm is the default
[12:53] <Janix> oh crap, it's the same channel"!
[12:53] <whyameye> [LethAL] : the problem is I need to tell OpenOffice what to execute when it doesn't understand the extension. I want to tell it to execute ubuntu's file manager, which already has associations with file extensions. But calling nautilus doesn't work.
[12:53] <oggah> HrdwrBoB, yep.
[12:53] <[LethAL] > whyameye, I dunno
[12:53] <Quinthius> whyameye: you can set which app to open it with permanently by right clicking the file, go to properties, then in the "open with" tab you can set the default, and alternatives to show up
[12:53] <oggah> HrdwrBoB, ops, sry. nope. xdm is default now.
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> whyameye: gnome-open
[12:53] <selinium> Hi guys I install winetools from a walktrough in the forum, the forum is down at the mo. Apt and dpkg are unaware of the install. How do i get rid of it?
[12:54] <joetheodd> I found out what I was doing wrong now. How do I add /usr/java/jre1.5.0_03/bin to the path to look for when you specify an executable?
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> oggah: only if you installed it
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> oggah: uninstall xdm
[12:54] <jpoe> hm, anyone remember the name of the desktop app that preloads parts of openoffice to make it open on the fly faster .. ?
[12:54] <oggah> got both xdm and wdm installed. and xdm is default.
[12:54] <marska> Hello.. I'd like to install XFCE in place of Gnome and was wondering how I may successfully do this?
[12:54] <[LethAL] > jpoe, apt-cache search openoffice start
[12:54] <Noah0504> Is it just me, or are the forums down?
[12:54] <Quinthius> Noah0504: yes
[12:54] <Seveas> it's just your imagination ;(
[12:54] <Seveas> ;)
[12:54] <Noah0504> Just checking ;)
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> ooqstart-gnome - OpenOffice.org QuickStarter applet for GNOME 2
[12:54] <Kimahri> Seveas: has my mute been lifted?
[12:55] <joetheodd> marska: sudo apt-get install xfce
[12:55] <dabaR> Kimahri: no
[12:55] <HrdwrBoB> Kimahri: I would say so
[12:55] <linuxmonkey> anyone tell me why im getting insmod: error inserting '8180_26_private.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[12:55] <jpoe> [LethAL] :  Did, maybe its just not in the breezy repos yet?
[12:55] <marska> joetheodd: Will my programs and setting still be intact?
[12:55] <bimberi> shekhar: i'm not sure what could cause that sorry
[12:55] <zone17> Hi, I just tryied upgrading to 5.10 using breezy and apt-get dist-upgrade, everything broke.. now almost all software is removed, in my case it's better to do a clean install right?
[12:55] <HrdwrBoB> jpoe: could be
[12:55] <Kimahri> i'm not seeing it in the ban list... i was +b not +q
[12:55] <joetheodd> Kimahri: Looks like it.
[12:55] <WebLOCH> Is it possible to remove Evolution without everything else getting screwed?
[12:55] <whyameye> HrdwrBoB: Thank you! gnome-open does the trick!
[12:55] <dabaR> zone17: you ahve no idea how3 glad I am to hear that.
[12:55] <HrdwrBoB> whyameye: :) no worries
[12:55] <Jan_> zone17 exactly the same just happened to us
[12:55] <butcherbird> marska, just apt-get install xfce. when you login at bootup there is a 'sessions' button click it and xfce should be an option
[12:55] <dabaR> zone17: use console now till 5.10
[12:55] <Tidus> .
[12:55] <selinium> jpoe: gnome or kde?
[12:55] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: yes
[12:55] <joetheodd> marska: They should be. When you get to the login screen, click session and change to XFce.
[12:55] <Tidus> .
[12:56] <Tidus> looks like it
[12:56] <jpoe> gnome
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> zone17: erm, what did you do?
[12:56] <joetheodd> marska: I'm no expert, though.
[12:56] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, last time I tried it messed up some other mozilla apps
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> zone17: depends on how much user data you have
[12:56] <[LethAL] > jpoe, it's in breezy's repos
[12:56] <dabaR> zone17: backports?
[12:56] <StarterX> Why when i want to uninstall an app that was with the original install of ubuntu , it ask me to remove ,ubuntu desktop
[12:56] <[LethAL] > jpoe, universe
[12:56] <StarterX> ,too
[12:56] <StarterX>
[12:56] <Jan_> GUYS! We just had exactly the same problem
[12:56] <StarterX> ?
[12:56] <zone17> I changed the sources.list, not using backports, did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:56] <[LethAL] > StarterX, ubuntu-desktop doens't do anything
[12:56] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know if ubuntu will ever come as a barebones system?
[12:56] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : How do I add /usr/java/jre1.5.0_03/bin to my path?
[12:56] <selinium> HrdwrBoB, Was right, ooqstart
[12:56] <Quinthius> StarterX: because "ubuntu-desktop" is the meta package that pulls in many other apps, it helps to keep upgrades in order and stuff
[12:56] <dabaR> zone17: and whats so broken?
[12:56] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, no idea
[12:56] <bimberi> WebLOCH: it has a 'server install' option...
[12:56] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, man path?
[12:57] <StarterX> ahhh okay :
[12:57] <coarsesalt> WebLOCH: i've been telling the 'server install' is a barebones...
[12:57] <WebLOCH> binberi, what does that install by default ?
[12:57] <zone17> I get lots of errors..
[12:57] <coarsesalt> is it not?
[12:57] <shekhar> [LethAL] , any idea what could be the problem? why does the window manager stick at bootup?
[12:57] <WebLOCH> Ahh awesome, so I can just install what I want ?
[12:57] <joetheodd> Does anyone know how to add /usr/java/jre1.5.0_03/bin to the path searched for executables?
[12:57] <StarterX> 0 so i can screw evolution and things whitout loosing X, thats a plus :)
[12:57] <Kimahri> [LethAL] : which WM is it that's hanging?
[12:57] <tovella> does anyone know why ubuntu seems to allow the first user to hijack ownership of all the subsequently created user directories?  how can I stop this from occurring?
[12:57] <[LethAL] > Kimahri, shekhar's Metacity
[12:57] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : I'm trying to make it so that java (which is in there) is found when I type, say, java Main, from outside that folder
[12:57] <zone17> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE
[12:57] <dabaR> zone17: good, I know how ot fix the *lots* of errors error.
[12:57] <marska> !mp3
[12:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:57] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, I know, just not how to
[12:58] <dabaR> zone17: does it boot?
[12:58] <dabaR> zone17: are y ou in there now?
[12:58] <joetheodd> [LethAL]  ok
[12:58] <zone17> and a LOT of other dabaR the list is to long, sorry, I know normally a copy/paste
[12:58] <jpoe> [LethAL] : Odd, not seeing it .. have universe/multiverse turn on too ..
[12:58] <dabaR> zone17: use teh pastebin.
[12:58] <Quinthius> StarterX: yes, i would recommend installing ubuntu-desktop again periodically (which as a side-effect will pull in evolution again) to make sure you have proper packages installed and stuff
[12:58] <zone17> dabaR, yes I made it "go back" to hoary
[12:58] <bimberi> WebLOCH: as i understand it, it will install the dependencies of the ubuntu-base package
[12:58] <Kimahri> hm.... dunno bout metacity, but i know fluxbox hangs up due to xdb or something for a while, then it'll start
[12:58] <dabaR> zone17: hah, mind writing out a doc on something like that?
[12:59] <tod_kon> I need help getting my root access back
[12:59] <boxerboy29> do i need to install java to an opera file?
[12:59] <Seveas> StarterX, or create a dumy evolution with equivs
[12:59] <WebLOCH> bimberi, does that include GNOME and X ?
[12:59] <bimberi> WebLOCH: no
[12:59] <[LethAL] > jpoe, update/reload?
[12:59] <tod_kon> I chmodded /usr/ -R
[12:59] <WebLOCH> bimberi, apt-get ?
[12:59] <tod_kon> And I have no more access :(
[12:59] <jpoe> yeah, nadda
[12:59] <zone17> dabaR :-), old time debian user, but I still lack all major software, I can't do an upgrade again
[12:59] <jpoe> weird
[12:59] <Seveas> tod_kon, reinstall
[12:59] <whyameye> joetheodd: does this help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/356668
[12:59] <bimberi> WebLOCH: yes
[12:59] <Seveas> this is not solvable
[12:59] <tod_kon> Wait, maybe I did chown /usr/ -R
[12:59] <dabaR> oh...k.
[12:59] <Seveas> even then a reinstall is simpler
[12:59] <tod_kon> Seveas: Are you... serious?
[12:59] <satafterh> do we need a fireee wall and/or virus software with linux?
[12:59] <Seveas> yes
[12:59] <shekhar> Kimahri, can you help? my ubuntu starts up fine, but sticks on metacity for about 5 minutes before gnome starts
[12:59] <Noah0504> Will amaroK work with Gnome?
[01:00] <linuxmonkey> anyone here got a DLINK DWL-610 wifi card and got it to work in linux?
[01:00] <WebLOCH> bibis X and Gnome available over apt-gets
[01:00] <zone17> but ok, as long as other people are having similar problems
[01:00] <tod_kon> What the hell... Screw that...   Everyone......................
[01:03] <linuxmonkey> dabaR,  lol yeah
[01:03] <shekhar> can someone also help me with evolution...
[01:03] <coarsesalt> football game... slowly ending... no audio to listen... last request before i give up and start working .RNX files anyone?
[01:03] <whyameye> When ubuntu needs a critical update, I get a red circle in the task panel. If I didn't have a gui running, is there a way to know still if ubuntu needs a critical update?
[01:03] <dabaR> what is it?
[01:03] <Seveas> boxerboy29, neh, not likely
[01:03] <Kimahri> shekhar: make another user and try it, and if it works right, then it's probably an issue with your saved session
[01:03] <Seveas> whatever it is, you probably didn't fuck up your system on purpose
[01:04] <boxerboy29> nope
[01:04] <boxerboy29> not yet
[01:04] <boxerboy29> lol
[01:04] <linuxmonkey> i really need to get this working before i can continue, i got a few laptops with these card and cant afford to buy new ones atm
[01:04] <Seveas> then what's the prob?
[01:04] <flodine> can someone help me get back in gnome i got a xession error on breezy
[01:04] <boxerboy29> java for firefox and java for opera are they the same java and only need to download once?
[01:04] <WebLOCH> bimberi, last question, what is the package name for X
[01:04] <WebLOCH> ?
[01:04] <dabaR> coarsesalt: whats a .rnx file?
[01:05] <HrdwrBoB> whyameye: run apt-get upgrade
[01:05] <coarsesalt> dadaR: it's a sign in file from real.com
[01:05] <flodine> someone plese help
[01:05] <coarsesalt> it's for streaming audio
[01:05] <bimberi> WebLOCH: xserver-xorg
[01:05] <WebLOCH> ty
[01:05] <bimberi> yw :
[01:05] <bimberi> :)
[01:05] <dabaR> coarsesalt: what are you doing with that?
[01:05] <whyameye> HrdwrBoB, so if I had a server install and I just ran apt-get upgrade periodically, then no worries, basically?
[01:05] <Seveas> boxerboy29, I think so, don't know about opera
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> whyameye: you'll also need to run apt-get update before it
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> but yes
[01:06] <linuxmonkey> does anyone know the easyest way to get my DWL-610 wifi card working (except buying new ones)
[01:06] <coarsesalt> dadaR: I'm trying to listen to a football game from nfl.com...
[01:06] <whyameye> HrdwrBoB: thanks! 2 for 2! :-)
[01:06] <boxerboy29> than that would mean i have to find a way to get it in opera too
[01:06] <flodine> i need help getting into my gnome
[01:06] <Kimahri> whyameye: apt-get update before upgrade
[01:06] <dabaR> well...did you try some realplayer download?
[01:06] <Seveas> boxerboy29, read the docs on opera.com :)
[01:06] <Quinthius> was w32codecs and sun-j2re1.5 ever added back to to the repositories?
[01:06] <Seveas> np
[01:06] <Seveas> no
[01:06] <boxerboy29> i was just reading them
[01:06] <Quinthius> are they gone for good?
[01:06] <_twitch_> tovella
[01:07] <coarsesalt> dadaR: yes... i have realplaer installed, it works for everything else...
[01:07] <_twitch_> recovery mode works perfectly
[01:07] <dabaR> Quinthius: no, someone is hosting bittorrents, and ther eis a site you can get them from.
[01:07] <Quinthius> dabaR: ahh ok
[01:07] <dabaR> Quinthius: thieves...
[01:07] <dabaR> haha
[01:07] <coarsesalt> dadaR: I'll figure it out for next week i suppose
[01:07] <Seveas> Quinthius, breezy?
[01:07] <dabaR> coarsesalt: ok, have a nice evening. hah.
[01:07] <Quinthius> Seveas: yah
[01:08] <coarsesalt> dadaR: lol. thanks muchly for that. I did the java install yesterday through SUN... pretty painless really
[01:08] <flodine> how do i fix my xession for gnome anyone please
[01:08] <vader1102> hahaha I now have Breezy installed and running on my desktop pc, it is quite awesome
[01:08] <santium> what is the apt-get package for all things required for compiling apps?
[01:08] <santium> ive installed gcc and make
[01:08] <_twitch_> tovella?
[01:08] <_jason> vader1102:  what would you say is the best addition in breeezy?
[01:08] <WebLOCH> durt, ty galeon is nice
[01:09] <bimberi> santium: build-essential
[01:09] <dabaR> coarsesalt: totally.
[01:09] <vader1102> no idea.... it ia good combo
[01:09] <dabaR> coarsesalt: dabar.
[01:09] <dabaR> its an exotic animal
[01:09] <coarsesalt> dabaR: no wonder i've been missing those...
[01:09] <dabaR> Ive been missing theem...
[01:09] <dabaR> :)
[01:10] <dabaR> Im in win32, defragging.
[01:10] <greg> what is the purpose of breezy-extras repos?
[01:10] <dabaR> greg there are those?
[01:11] <coarsesalt> I'm doing a review of 'ease of use" of ubuntu for our podcast next week... any other 'goto' websites I should use other than the ubuntu wiki and ubuntuguide?
[01:11] <Seveas> coarsesalt, don't use ubuntuguide
[01:11] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is crap
[01:11] <Seveas> !faq
[01:11] <ubotu> well, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:11] <dabaR> ya, all these sites
[01:11] <Seveas> use that one from the docteam
[01:11] <shekhar> Seveas, i don't understand your dislike for ubuntuguide
[01:11] <Quinthius> hmm, it looks like mplayerhq.hu is the primary location of win32 codecs... are those the same as what was in the repo's?
[01:11] <coarsesalt> Seveas: me neither
[01:11] <shekhar> anyway ubuntuguide.org is down now
[01:11] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[01:11] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:12] <dabaR> wow
[01:12] <Seveas> there.
[01:12] <shekhar> ubuntuguide has been very helpful to many people
[01:12] <dabaR> Seveas: tat looks good. did Burgundavia work on that?
[01:12] <shekhar> actually http://ubuntuguide.org/ is back up again
[01:12] <Seveas> dabaR, the entire docteam did
[01:12] <Seveas> shekhar, ah too bad :(
[01:12] <dabaR> nice
[01:12] <dabaR> Its likely a valuable doc.
[01:13] <dabaR> And breezy? much diff from Hoary?
[01:13] <sudonim> anybody have success installing daapd?
[01:13] <B_166-ER-X> hm, What do i do to have the icons on my down (right)  workbar showing actually what program is open, instead of just greyish or blue squares ?   (talking about the desktop manager)
[01:13] <shekhar> Seveas, ubuntuguide cuts the crap and helps people customise their system, it's a good launchpad into the forums and wiki for newbies to linux
[01:13] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, get programs that define icons ;)
[01:13] <Seveas> shekhar, ubuntuguide is crap and helps people breaking their systems
[01:13] <dabaR> shekhar: this room is better than that thing
[01:13] <coarsesalt> shkhar: and i'm looking for converts in the educational industry
[01:14] <sudonim> I am trying to use the latest .deb package because there is none for Ubuntu and it is telling me that it needs a newer version of libc6
[01:14] <dabaR> then you can know how bad it is
[01:14] <Seveas> I've spent countless hours in here helping people restoring ubuntuguide-inflicted damage
[01:14] <oggah> How do I backporting Gaim 1.5? Right now I got 1.1.4 installed.
[01:14] <oggah> want 1.5
[01:14] <coarsesalt> dadaR: my peeps would be very intimidated by this room
[01:14] <dabaR> sudonim: and we dont care which package it is.
[01:14] <coarsesalt> dabaR: oops
[01:14] <Seveas> coarsesalt, for the educational industry you should also keep an eye on edubuntu
[01:14] <shekhar> Seveas, i sympathise, but i have never broken my system with ubuntuguide instructions
[01:14] <_twitch_> hey guys, i have a radeon 7500... and a winmodem so i cant use apt-get
[01:14] <Seveas> shekhar, then you were lucky
[01:14] <sudonim> dabar: daapd
[01:14] <_twitch_> and gnome wont work
[01:14] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas,  my question is, because when i installed ubuntu, i didnt have theme, then i dont know what update maked them much biger and showin the program ...then probably another update just putted it back like before, also, when i run the ubuntu LIVE version, it shows the way i would want them
[01:15] <_twitch_> im pretty sure its a graphics card problem
[01:15] <_twitch_> recovery mode works fine
[01:15] <coarsesalt> Seveas: yeah... i installed it the day it came out, and have talked a bit with them... not really what I'm looking for right now...
[01:15] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, then get a theme that define icons for your apps ;)
[01:15] <coarsesalt> Seveas: it's great. For techies. I don't need teachers to set up thin-clients... I just need them to keep their computers running with decent software that doesn't cost a fortune
[01:16] <oggah> Right now I got Gaim v1.1.4 installed. Want v1.5. How do I make this?
[01:17] <bimberi> oggah: backports has a later version, might only be 1.4 tho
[01:17] <Seveas> coarsesalt, then it's just ubuntu :)
[01:17] <bimberi> !backports
[01:17] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.    What should my next step be?
[01:20] <tmorton> How do I remove a root password once I've created one?
[01:20] <shan> elow
[01:21] <Agrajag> sudo passwd -l root
[01:21] <buzi> hello there
[01:21] <hehelol> How compatible are debian repositries with ubuntu and vica versa?
[01:21] <coarsesalt> Seveas: that was the conclusion i came to after my edubuntu install... from all i've seen, ubuntu is a year away. Very close. But not quite.
[01:21] <AdmiralCrunch> Is anyone else on Breezy having trouble with the latest ATI drivers?
[01:21] <pc3> gracias Pickle_Weasel
[01:21] <coarsesalt> Seveas: I, however, love it!
[01:21] <Seveas> coarsesalt, half a year ;)
[01:21] <buzi> just installed ubuntu, and was wondering how can I install vnc on it
[01:22] <oggah> what is a backport anyway? how do you define it
[01:22] <coarsesalt> Seveas: I'll hold you to that
[01:22] <Seveas> development in Ubuntu speeds up exponentially ;)
[01:22] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: i think the vesa drivers come installed and you can change the Driver line (in Section "Device") to "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:22] <AdmiralCrunch> buzi, sudo apt-get install vnc
[01:22] <boxerboy29> is this still a registered only room?
[01:22] <Seveas> and the next release is planned to be a big bang
[01:22] <Pickle_Weasel> =o
[01:22] <Pickle_Weasel> kk
[01:22] <Pickle_Weasel> ty
[01:22] <Seveas> boxerboy29, not right now
[01:22] <Seveas> only during spambot showers
[01:22] <boxerboy29> oh ok
[01:22] <hehelol> I heard that they werent entirely compatible
[01:22] <coarsesalt> Seveas: I was thinking the start of 2006-2007 academic. I'm hoping to tie it into webcasting, bloggin and podcasting using ubuntu as a multimedia platform as it gets more important for ed-people
[01:23] <buzi> this is what I got:
[01:23] <PiercedH20> Any ndiswrapper gurus?
[01:23] <boxerboy29> dapper is gonna be a big hit?
[01:23] <buzi> Reading package lists... Done
[01:23] <buzi> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:23] <buzi> Package vnc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:23] <buzi> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:23] <buzi> is only available from another source
[01:23] <buzi> However the followingReading package lists... Done
[01:23] <buzi> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:23] <buzi> Package vnc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:23] <Seveas> NEVER PASTE IN HERE
[01:23] <Jan_> one question
[01:23] <Seveas> coarsesalt, by that time breezy+2 is not yet released, releases are always in october and april
[01:24] <Jan_> why is it necessary to give FOUR commandline options to tar to make it unwrap an archive?
[01:24] <Jan_> and why are we using Tape ARchives anyway?
[01:24] <Seveas> Jan_, only 2
[01:24] <Seveas> tar xf filename
[01:24] <Seveas> x for extract
[01:24] <Seveas> f for from this file
[01:24] <evian> I have two updates that refuse to install, mozilla-firefox, and mozilla-firefox-gnome-support. It seems they are complaining about overwriting files that already exist or something. I don't really understand the error messages.
[01:24] <dabaR> z for zip
[01:24] <dabaR> :P
[01:24] <Seveas> that's only for tar.gz
[01:24] <jbroome> evian: is firefox open while you're trying to update?
[01:24] <dabaR> pah
[01:25] <Strog> dabaR: gzip
[01:25] <Seveas> evian, /topic
[01:25] <Jan_> "your kernel does not have any recent software suspend 2 support compiled in"
[01:25] <coarsesalt> Seveas: breezy+1 is perfect, as I need to start convincing people at least by april to get them converted by september. I might even have to use breezy, which brings me back to why I need sites like ubuntu guide to show people "how easy it is"
[01:25] <Jan_> I know it has SOME support
[01:25] <Jan_> why can't I use what it has?
[01:25] <evian> no, jbroome, although it might have been the first time I tried it
[01:25] <Seveas> coarsesalt, did you look at the docteam website?
[01:25] <kataklysm> Jan_: its become a linux standard for source archives,  it has strong compression... plus its easily identified apart from other OS compressed files like .zip  .rar  even though you sometimes find linux files compressed in zip / rar
[01:25] <Seveas> ubuntu-doc.ath.cx (temporary url tho)
[01:25] <coarsesalt> Seveas: nope. got a link?
[01:26] <red_blood> wich is the best mule? amule? xmule?
[01:26] <Jan_> that's really not a good reason
[01:26] <evian> Seveas, oh ok thanks
[01:26] <Seveas> coarsesalt, http://doc.ubuntu.com/
[01:26] <Jan_> "Linux: Blocking Progress at every possible step"
[01:26] <kataklysm> red_blood: your asking a question that is only going to return opinions..
[01:26] <Jan_> OK.
[01:27] <Jan_> To make it suspend I need to install, apparently, "software suspend 2"
[01:27] <shan> hello everyone
[01:27] <Strog> Tar was originally for archiving to tape but people quickly realized that have archives on file would be good too
[01:27] <Jan_> Software suspend 2 doesn't work with the kernel I have
[01:27] <Jan_> apparently I have to recompile the kernel
[01:27] <Seveas> Jan_, ubuntu kernels come with swsups
[01:27] <Jan_> To do this I need to download the source and unpack it (how?)
[01:27] <Seveas> susp*
[01:27] <Jan_> I also need to read something called "Kernel-HOWTO" which has been "removed for review"
[01:27] <Seveas> CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y
[01:28] <kataklysm> Jan_  apt-get install linux-headers
[01:28] <Jan_> Now can anyone understand why people dislike linux over windows
[01:28] <Seveas> Jan_, nonsense, stop the pointless ranting
[01:28] <coarsesalt> Seveas: yeah. my point exactly actually unfortunately. The sun version is one update behind. Which is No Problem for me, but will be for what we like to call 'middle adopters'
[01:28] <Jan_> the hibernate script I have tells me my kernel is out of date
[01:28] <kataklysm> Jan_: because they are spoiled by windows, and are lazy, they don't want something different if they have to relearn things....
[01:28] <Jan_> even though I updated this install forty minutes ago
[01:29] <Jan_> my how fast linux moves
[01:29] <Seveas> coarsesalt, sun version?
[01:29] <Jan_> so what do I do
[01:29] <Seveas> Jan_, hibernate script?
[01:29] <Seveas> which hibernate script?
[01:29] <Necrosan> ok
[01:29] <Necrosan> wtf
[01:29] <Jan_> the one I got from suspend2.net
[01:29] <Seveas> roflol
[01:29] <Necrosan> Seveas: you told me ndiswrapper was on the 5.04 cd
[01:29] <Necrosan> it didnt install ndiswrapper
[01:29] <Seveas> Jan_, that's your own error
[01:29] <Necrosan> So tell me my friend, where is it?
[01:29] <_twitch_> anyone know how to install the vesa drivers?
[01:30] <Seveas> ubuntu comes with suspend things
[01:30] <Jan_> Seveas: that's what suspend2.net told me to do
[01:30] <boboboka> I think I cant update anything..
[01:30] <Jan_> what'm I supposed to do, ignore the guy who wrote it?
[01:30] <Jan_> anyway, how do I fix it?
[01:30] <Seveas> Jan_, why did you go there in the first place?
[01:30] <shan> \#join cebu
[01:30] <Jan_> Someone told me to.
[01:30] <Seveas> good point :/
[01:30] <durt> necrosan - get the source from the ndiswrapper web site
[01:30] <Jan_> So anyway - what do I do?
[01:30] <Seveas> ditch that script
[01:30] <Jan_> fine
[01:30] <Jan_> and?
[01:31] <XTERM35> Hello, could anyone tell me how to enable telnet into my ubuntu computer or if it is possible.
[01:31] <Seveas> and use ubuntu-provided things
[01:31] <Seveas> hint: select hibernate in the logout screen
[01:31] <coarsesalt> Seveas: sorry. Java. I suppose i should just sign in and fix it... I'm new to this really. Just gotten over the hump of really not knowing what I'm doing, to knowing enough to get myself into trouble
[01:31] <kataklysm> Jan_: you should start looking for your packages on the repos 1st!  if you dont find them, look on the webpage for what dependencies are required by the package you are trying to install, then get all them from the repo first,  then follow the instructions that the webpage gives on how to install what your trying to do
[01:31] <Jan_> well the only thing I've seen is hibernate in the logout screen
[01:31] <Jan_> and that just crashes to black screen
[01:31] <Jan_> with the power running
[01:31] <Seveas> coarsesalt, sun java is not legally distributable :)
[01:31] <Jan_> someone also told me to "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep"
[01:31] <lokadin> hey i got the new firefox and there is no font
[01:31] <Jan_> which does put it to sleep
[01:31] <boboboka> when I try to upgrade/update/install, even without checking the internet (I can see on the modem that there is no traffic), I get a nothing new msg..
[01:31] <Jan_> but it won't recover from it.
[01:31] <Jan_> What next?
[01:31] <Strog> XTERM35: ssh insead. telnet is bad since it's easily hacked
[01:31] <Seveas> Jan_, your suspend2 script would do exactly the same
[01:31] <butcherbird> XTERM35, I believe you will have to apt-get telnetd.  Why not use ssh?
[01:31] <lokadin> i just get underscores instead of chracters :S or nothing at all
[01:31] <Jan_> Seveas: exactly the same as what
[01:32] <bimberi> XTERM35: do you want to telnet to your ubuntu box?
[01:32] <Seveas> Jan_, do you use ati/nvidia/atheros/ndiswrapper drivers?
[01:32] <XTERM35> ok thanks
[01:32] <lokadin> hello?
[01:32] <Jan_> It has an nvidia graphics chip on it, but we didn't install the driver yet
[01:32] <Necrosan> durt: that doesnt help
[01:32] <coarsesalt> Seveas: cheers
[01:32] <Necrosan> especially when the damn laptop has no network connectivity
[01:32] <Necrosan> no internet whatsoever
[01:32] <_jason> !ssh
[01:32] <ubotu> methinks ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[01:32] <boboboka> anybody?
[01:32] <Necrosan> i was going on Seveas word, but he apparently was lying for some reason
[01:32] <Seveas> Necrosan, ?
[01:32] <Jan_> So what next
[01:32] <durt> necrosan - um your on the internet now apparently
[01:32] <lokadin> Seveas: is the new firefox version supposed to  be fontless?
[01:32] <Necrosan> yeah
[01:32] <Necrosan> Through a mac.
[01:33] <Nikopol> boboboka, what is your problem exacltY?
[01:33] <Necrosan> The laptop ONLY has wifi
[01:33] <boboboka> when I try to upgrade/update/install, even without checking the internet (I can see on the modem that there is no traffic), I get a nothing new msg..
[01:33] <Seveas> Necrosan, I was lying with what?
[01:33] <Nikopol> boboboka, yes I read that - so I assume you think there is new stuff to DL?
[01:33] <Necrosan> ndiswrapper is NOT in a 5.04 install
[01:33] <Jan_> Seveas, what do I do now?
[01:33] <Strog> Necrosan: Does it have usb and you have a usb drive?
[01:33] <Jan_> I'm COMPLETELY lost.
[01:33] <Seveas> Jan_, if the hibernate thing does not work, your laptop is not yet fully supported, dcripts from other sites won't help
[01:33] <durt> necreosan- its called ndisutils i think
[01:33] <boboboka> yes. the firefox i have is not 1.0.7 nor 1.0.6
[01:33] <Seveas> just don't use hibernate yet
[01:33] <kataklysm> Jan_ is this your first linux install?
[01:33] <boboboka> its the default that came with the dist
[01:34] <Jan_> Seveas: It's a laptop. It needs to hibernate. Not negotiable.
[01:34] <Seveas> Necrosan, it is
[01:34] <Nikopol> boboboka, ok - I assume you've setup the sources.list properly?
[01:34] <Necrosan> hes right
[01:34] <Seveas> Jan_, then go back to windows.
[01:34] <Jan_> kataklsym7413: Third. We tried two other installs on here.
[01:34] <boboboka> hmm.. whats that?
[01:34] <Necrosan> Just was on the cd, not installed by default
[01:34] <Nikopol> ah
[01:34] <Nikopol> ok wait a mo
[01:34] <Nikopol> boboboka, sorry which version you under?
[01:34] <Jan_> Seveas: Huh? It's hibernate. There's about four different approaches. Any could work. What's the problem?
[01:34] <kataklysm> Jan_: i'm not trying to point you away from ubuntu, but maybe you should learn with something a bit easier to configure
[01:34] <boboboka> version of what?
[01:35] <Nikopol> boboboka, Breezy, Hoary or Warty?
[01:35] <Seveas> Jan_, a piece of hardware in your machine could screw it over
[01:35] <zegenie> why do I get "cannot talk to klauncher" when trying to run the kde3.5 beta packages?
[01:35] <Jan_> Well so far I've been told to get red hat because it's easiest to configure
[01:35] <zegenie> does anybody know?
[01:35] <Seveas> roflol
[01:35] <Jan_> then someone said to get ubuntu because it was easiest to configure
[01:35] <boboboka> hoary
[01:35] <kataklysm> Jan_ redhat isnt the easiest
[01:35] <Nikopol> boboboka, ok
[01:35] <Seveas> have fun with that, you'll come screaming back ;)
[01:35] <Jan_> Look the thing is that NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE RUNNING, someone will tell you to run something else.
[01:35] <Jan_> Clearly, that is NOT a solution.
[01:35] <steely> i am trying to install snes9x and can't figure out how to do it through aptitude or synaptic
[01:35] <Seveas> but seriously: hibernate is very new in linux
[01:35] <Nikopol> boboboka, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[01:35] <Riddell> zegenie: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16030
[01:35] <Seveas> it's not 100% supported on all machines
[01:35] <Jan_> Seveas: Hibernate has been in laptops since there was laptops.
[01:36] <Nikopol> boboboka, btw hoary is 5.04
[01:36] <Jan_> it is not new difficult or clever.
[01:36] <Seveas> Nikopol, do not recommend ubuntuguide
[01:36] <kataklysm> Jan_, if you want to configure easy you should probably go with mandrake or mandriva, but dont complain about the dependency hells you will go through when trying to install more software..
[01:36] <Jan_> What's the problem.
[01:36] <trigger> hi everyone
[01:36] <Seveas> Jan_, hardware, drivers, kernel modules
[01:36] <Nikopol> Seveas, no?
[01:36] <Seveas> there's so much that can screw things over
[01:36] <Seveas> !tell Nikopol about ubuntuguide
[01:36] <boboboka> o.k. what do I do with the url? read all of it's manuels?
[01:36] <Nikopol> boboboka, no
[01:37] <ram__> sup everyone
[01:37] <Seveas> Jan_, the easiest to do is use windows if that supports hibernate for your machine properly
[01:37] <WebLOCH> Will breezy be running on 2.6.11 +
[01:37] <Jan_> well it came with windows on it
[01:37] <Seveas> the *best* to do is find out which kernel module gives you problems and report a bug :)
[01:37] <kataklysm> Jan_: im not telling you to run something else, im telling you that maybe you should "try" something else, see if it works, different distros work different for different computers / users....
[01:37] <a_monkey> what's a really nice open-source aim client
[01:37] <kataklysm> WebLOCH: yes
[01:37] <Nikopol> what you need to do is setup a file /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <bimberi> WebLOCH: 2.6.12 iirc
[01:37] <Seveas> but since you're new to linux that may be too much to ask
[01:37] <trigger> can some one tell me how can i install programs using the cd, i uninstall firefox because i was crashing every time i open yahoo with segmentation fault and i want to install it back
[01:37] <_jason> how can I remove the hibernate option from my log out menu?
[01:37] <Nikopol> boboboka, what you need to do is setup a file /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <Seveas> a_monkey, gaim
[01:37] <bimberi> a_monkey: gaim
[01:37] <a_monkey> hmm
[01:38] <boboboka> o.k. how?
[01:38] <WebLOCH> kataklsym7413, bimberi, so it should detect a little more of my hardware by default
[01:38] <Jan_> kataklsym: yeah, well, if I listened to every person who said that I'd be in a constant state of downloading distros.
[01:38] <Jan_> Clearly that's not going to solve the problem.
[01:38] <Nikopol> boboboka, I'll open a private msg windwo for me to help you ok?
[01:38] <a_monkey> gaim doesn't provide those little messages that notify you if the other person(s) is/are typing
[01:38] <bimberi> a_monkey: i just knew you wouldn't like that answer :)
[01:38] <[pbC] Obst> a_monkey i think kopete is better than gaim
[01:38] <_jason> a_monkey:  it does
[01:38] <zegenie> thanks, Riddell
[01:38] <zegenie> but is there any solution?
[01:38] <_jason> a_monkey:  little keyboard in the top right corner appears
[01:38] <kataklysm> WebLOCH: it depends on what hardware you have, it does detect more than the 2.4 kernel of course..
[01:38] <Quinthius> a_monkey: it doesnt give a message, but it makes a little icon in the upper right corner of the window..
[01:38] <bimberi> WebLOCH: yes, hopefully
[01:38] <a_monkey> _jason: i don't see them
[01:38] <sevas_25> hi crew
[01:38] <a_monkey> Quinthius: oh
[01:39] <Seveas> Jan_, if you want to try things, try fedora, ubuntu and opensuse. If neither of these can hibernate, no other one can. I think you're just being bitten by a bug in a kernel module that will one day (soon hopefully) be solved in either the suspend scripts or the module.
[01:39] <|ww> what do I use for setting up a VPN connection with ubuntu?
[01:39] <Nikopol> boboboka, you not reading the message I'm sending you?
[01:39] <Seveas> |ww, a vpn client :)
[01:39] <Jan_> Seveas: I just don't understand why this is a problem.
[01:39] <boboboka> yes I do
[01:39] <_jason> anyone know how to remove hibernate as an option when you log out?
[01:39] <Jan_> Or even why this is STILL a problem.
[01:39] <trigger> can someoen tell me how can i install firefox back again? thank you in advance
[01:39] <Jan_> People have been hibernating computers for over a DECADE.
[01:39] <bimberi> trigger: see /topic
[01:40] <Nikopol> it's in a seperate tab
[01:40] <WebLOCH> kataklsym7413, Im running <IP_ADDRESS>-smp, but apparently there is support for most of my motherboards chipsets under 2.6.12, such as the SATA, HDA and Intel PCIe Gigabit LAN
[01:40] <Rich43> http://schleppingsquid.net/PSPHacking/ hahah some guy got windows 95 on a PSP
[01:40] <|ww> Seveas; heh thanks.. using BSD i'd usally make; make install; never used rpm's so i'm not sure what client to use
[01:40] <Nikopol> boboboka, it's in a seperate tab
[01:40] <kataklysm> Jan_ if you can sudo lsmod and make sure the module is loaded that might help us to help you
[01:40] <boboboka> i'm answering you in the window...
[01:40] <Jan_> I mean - splutter - it's a LAPTOP ffs.
[01:40] <Seveas> Jan_, please stop the fighting now, it won't help either
[01:40] <boboboka> it's like you don't see it
[01:40] <butcherbird> Jan_, using hoary or breezy? you could always try installing the other.  Maybe apt-get a different kernel.  Um, how do I uninstall totem?
[01:43] <boboboka> k
[01:43] <Seveas> Jan_, are you running hoary or breezy?
[01:43] <Jan_> kataklsym: that's what I hear, but... at the end of the day it doesn't actually work. So. Er.
[01:43] <Jan_> Sev: Breezy.
[01:43] <benplaut> Jan_: sudo apt-get uninstall totem*
[01:43] <sh0wtime> carrarro:  funny i need advise on how to get my wifi card to show up
[01:43] <Seveas> Jan_, applications -> add applications
[01:43] <Seveas> find totem, unselect it
[01:43] <sevas_25> LOL
[01:43] <kataklysm> Jan_: it would work at the end of the day if you would spend your time researching the problem rather than fussing and complaining about why it dont just work right out of the box....
[01:43] <Seveas> kataklsym7413, you stop it too
[01:43] <Jan_> E: invalid operation uninstall
[01:44] <ian_here> here me
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> that's remove
[01:44] <benplaut> Jan_: sudo apt-get remove totem*
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> not uninstalll
[01:44] <Noah0504> Will amaroK work under Gnome?
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> uninstall
[01:44] <Jan_> kataklsym: Well, I went to the suspend2 site and tried to follow their instructions, but the instructions were broken in themselves.
[01:44] <ian_here> hu tsi
[01:44] <kataklysm> Seveas: what did i do?
[01:44] <poningru> ubotu: tell sh0wtime about wireless
[01:44] <sh0wtime> plz do =)
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> I never hibernate my laptop, it can sleep for 4-5 days
[01:44] <chavo> Noah0504, yes
[01:44] <kataklysm> Jan_: thats why i told you to try to find your answer in the repositories
[01:44] <carrarro> sh0time: I went to system, networking and cliked on the icon and the cliked on properties to configure it
[01:45] <ian_here> hey u der wana talk to???
[01:45] <trigger> amarok works well :)
[01:45] <Noah0504> Okay, just making sure.
[01:45] <poningru> Noah0504: yes
[01:45] <guest> hello
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> what is a good DVD player program?
[01:45] <durt> whats wrong with just turning your laptop off?
[01:45] <ian_here> hi der
[01:45] <Noah0504> I didn't know if it had to have KDE to work.
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> gxine doesn't work properly for me
[01:45] <ian_here> asl
[01:45] <sevas_25> xine
[01:45] <sevas_25> mplayer
[01:45] <durt> pickle_weasle: vlc
[01:45] <benplaut> Seveas: banned, but still in the room?
[01:45] <|ww> Seveas; okay where do i execute a apt command, i try apt-get install openvpn  in terminal ,i get permission denined, do i need to get root access or go someplace else
[01:45] <poningru> Pickle_Weasel: vlc
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> durt: no need :)
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> vlc it is
[01:45] <ian_here> any girl want to chat with?
[01:45] <bimberi> |ww: sudo apt-get ...
[01:45] <Strog> benplaut: quieted not banned
[01:45] <boboboka> Nikopol, I already have that file, and it has these lines..
[01:45] <Seveas> benplaut, freenode stupidness, it's a mute, not a ban
[01:45] <sh0wtime> carrarro: mines not being detected, although it was detected during the installation
[01:45] <ian_here> hi bimberri
[01:45] <Seveas> ian_here, wrong channel
[01:45] <ian_here> asd
[01:45] <benplaut> ahh
[01:45] <chavo> Noah0504, it needs some kde stuff installed to run, but will run fine under any desktop
[01:46] <Seveas> ian_here, this is a support channel
[01:46] <poningru> ubotu: tell Pickle_Weasel about dvd
[01:46] <poningru> eh thats not a good answer
[01:46] <Nikopol> boboboka, is it exactly the same as that?
[01:46] <ian_here> what support channel?
[01:46] <boboboka> Nikopol, well they are a bit diffrent
[01:46] <sevas_25> guy's need help with ftpwho command, need fam but I using gamin
[01:46] <Seveas> ian_here, read the topic...
[01:46] <Nikopol> boboboka, ok well change them ;)
[01:46] <poningru> ubotu: tell Pickle_Weasel about hoary-extras
[01:46] <kataklysm> what?
[01:46] <benplaut> ian_here: this channel is for Ubuntu tech support only
[01:46] <sevas_25> somebody knows what I talking about
[01:47] <poningru> Pickle_Weasel: do you have everything for dvd playback now?
[01:47] <ian_here> hey seveas
[01:47] <carrett> hi everyone i'm trying to set up an ipod. i just transferred a bunch of songs and when i try to eject the ipod it says invalid argument...so i tried just disconnecting the ipod and now only some of the songs that i transferred show up in the menu....anyone can help?
[01:47] <Seveas> sevas_25, gamin and fam are binary compatible, code needing fam should be able to work with gamin
[01:47] <poningru> let me know if it doesnt work
[01:47] <Nikopol> !faw
[01:47] <Pickle_Weasel> yesyes =)
[01:47] <ubotu> Nikopol: I don't know
[01:47] <kataklysm> Seveas: dont be throwing power around in here, i wasnt doing anything but trying to help, not trying to argue...
[01:47] <Pickle_Weasel> thank you
[01:47] <ian_here> hi carret
[01:47] <Nikopol> !faq
[01:47] <ubotu> from memory, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:47] <carrarro> sh0time: that's odd. Does it apear in the list in transparent look, or does it not apear at all?
[01:47] <ian_here> whats ur probllem there?
[01:47] <boboboka> but I think they should be as they are - I have a hebrew version, so the urls leads to an il subdomain of ubuntu
[01:47] <Seveas> kataklysm, did you read the notices I sent you?
[01:47] <sevas_25> [seveas]  it don't
[01:47] <kataklysm> yes i did
[01:47] <carrett> ian_here: hi.
[01:47] <ian_here> hi carret
[01:47] <carrarro> s0wtime: when you go to networking properties that is
[01:47] <carrett> TWO Ts
[01:47] <sevas_25> is for pure-ftp
[01:47] <kataklysm> and you called it an argument when i was simply pointing him in the right direction
[01:48] <ian_here> hey
[01:48] <sevas_25> I allready google  a lot
[01:48] <kataklysm> unlike most i dont care to help a newbie out
[01:48] <Seveas> kataklsym7413, what's so hard about 'stop it now'
[01:48] <sevas_25> n acn't find the answer
[01:48] <poningru> sevas_25: whats the prob dude?
[01:48] <sevas_25> pure-ftpwho command need fam
[01:48] <boboboka> Nikopol, ok. found the prob. the lines were commented
[01:48] <sevas_25> but  gamin  is installed
[01:49] <sevas_25> allready
[01:49] <Nikopol> boboboka, aha - so is it installing now?
[01:49] <Seveas> sevas_25, and you really really don't want to go back to dam - trust me on that one
[01:49] <selinium> Hi guys I install winetools from a walktrough in the forum, the forum is down at the mo. Apt and dpkg are unaware of the install. How do i get rid of it?
[01:49] <boboboka> Nikopol, yeah, i did the update. should I now close everything and do the upgrade?
[01:49] <Seveas> selinium, did you install them with apt-get?
[01:49] <Nikopol> yeah
[01:49] <poningru> selinium: how did you 'install it'
[01:49] <Nikopol> boboboka, yeah
[01:49] <poningru> selinium: did you compile it?
[01:49] <Nikopol> apt-get update
[01:50] <Nikopol> apt-get upgraed
[01:50] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  to install FAM need to uninstall so many things, n u right , I don't wanna do that
[01:50] <boboboka> k. and one more question - how do I install vnc?
[01:50] <Nikopol> argh!
[01:50] <Nikopol> boboboka, apt-get upgrade
[01:50] <selinium> If i could get access to the forums I could find out! :) Shall I just wait til they are back up?
[01:50] <blunted> !fstab
[01:50] <ubotu> blunted: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:50] <Nikopol> boboboka, now Firefox should install
[01:50] <blunted> !updating fstab
[01:50] <ubotu> blunted: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:50] <boboboka> don't you mean sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:50] <Nikopol> boboboka, yes
[01:50] <blunted> !grub
[01:50] <ubotu> from memory, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:50] <poningru> selinium: sure
[01:51] <boboboka> Nikopol: o.k. and one more question, how do I install VNC ?
[01:51] <butcherbird> selinium, you might try the google cache
[01:51] <sevas_25> [poningru]
[01:51] <Nikopol> boboboka, erm wait a mo
[01:51] <boboboka> k
[01:51] <poningru> sevas_25: whats up?
[01:51] <ian_here> hi want to tal;k to?
[01:51] <ian_here> hey there
[01:51] <selinium> poningru, I installed wine from the cvs, so i might of installed that as well... Cant remember!
[01:51] <selinium> butcherbird, how do i do that?
[01:51] <sevas_25> I was talking to U
[01:51] <Nikopol> boboboka, sudo apt-get install vncviewer
[01:51] <sevas_25> do u read what I said ??
[01:51] <poningru> sevas_25: oh sorry
[01:51] <Nikopol> boboboka, I think
[01:51] <ian_here> hi selenium!!!
[01:51] <blunted> i have another hard drive on this computer
[01:51] <sevas_25> no problem
[01:51] <boboboka> i mean the server
[01:52] <Nikopol> boboboka, ok
[01:52] <guest> hi, newbie here
[01:52] <abalone> hello, I've just installed a printer, but the test page is not appearing correctly on the printed page, I have adjusted the paper type but it is still appearing shifted. Please advise
[01:52] <blunted> how do i make it show up in my Places / Computer window
[01:52] <butcherbird> search with google see if you can find link to page there should be a smaller 'cache' link just below
[01:52] <poningru> so you are trying to use fam?
[01:52] <selinium> ian_here, hi. if you are not here for ubuntu support, please leave.
[01:52] <joetheodd> Alt+F4 is a killer.
[01:52] <Nikopol> boboboka, checking
[01:52] <boboboka> k
[01:52] <sevas_25> pure-ftpd need FAM
[01:52] <joetheodd> I thought I was rid of it when I switched to Linux =p
[01:52] <sevas_25> but  gamin is  installed
[01:52] <poningru> sevas_25: ic
[01:53] <Nikopol> boboboka, same with vncserver
[01:53] <sevas_25> to go back to FAM need to uninstall  GDM n some many things
[01:53] <boboboka> k
[01:53] <AdmiralCrunch> Is anyone else on Breezy having trouble with the latest ATI drivers?
[01:53] <boboboka> Nikopol: thank you very much!
[01:53] <denn_> how do you view quicktime movies in firefox?
[01:53] <Seveas> sevas_25, how are you so sure it needs fam, never heard of that...
[01:53] <Nikopol> boboboka, glad to help
[01:53] <boboboka> Nikopol: you helped me very much!
[01:53] <Nikopol> boboboka, no problemo
[01:53] <selinium> !restricted
[01:53] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:53] <boboboka> now i'm a bit less newbie in this linux thing...
[01:53] <boboboka> I'll guess you'll be seeing me here soon...
[01:53] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  need it for  ftpwho command
[01:53] <Nikopol> boboboka, well that makes me feel good :)
[01:53] <boboboka> :-)
[01:54] <selinium> denn_ read the restricted formats link
[01:54] <Nikopol> boboboka, contact me if you need anything else
[01:54] <abalone> Can anyone help me with printer configuration?
[01:54] <poningru> sevas_25: ic
[01:54] <abalone> CUPS
[01:54] <boboboka> now I'm gonna upgrade
[01:54] <boboboka> k
[01:54] <boboboka> 10x
[01:54] <boboboka> ba bye
[01:54] <Nikopol> boboboka, bye
[01:54] <sevas_25> [pomimgru]  ic ??
[01:54] <sevas_25> [poningru]  sorry
[01:54] <poningru> sevas_25: hold on still checking
[01:55] <ccc> any tips on a simple beginners ftp-server with a gui, preferably?
[01:55] <abalone> CUPS printer configuration. My printed test page looks great, but the borders are not in the correct place and consequently the entire test page is not printed. I need to figure out why the letter sized print is starting about 2 inches down and maybe .5 an inch to the left where it shoudl be
[01:55] <sevas_25> [poningru]  TNX
[01:55] <sh0wtime> whats the name/location of the wifi config file
[01:55] <poningru> sevas_25: what commands in pureftp require gamin?
[01:55] <Seveas> sevas_25, pure-ftpwho works fine with gamin here
[01:55] <sevas_25> ftpwho requires FAM
[01:55] <blunted> how do i get to my other hard drive within ubuntu
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> abalone: have you selected the exact printer?
[01:56] <sevas_25> fam monitoring  files sharing
[01:56] <bobert> Should Ubuntu autodetect if I insert a USB flashdrive?
[01:56] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, yes
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> bobert: yes
[01:56] <bobert> how would I remidy it if it does not?
[01:56] <poningru> sevas_25: hmm ic
[01:56] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, I downloaded the ppd from linuxprinting
[01:56] <snausages> w32codecs has no installation candidate ;\
[01:56] <azteech> hi everyone ... new Ubuntu user ... am having problem with Gaim getting connected to my Yahoo account... when I attempt to signon, it just hangs at approx the 50% mark, all it says is connecting ... when it times out, message I get is "<username> has been disconnected. followed by date string and Unable to connect." Gives me the reconnect or close option. If I attempt to reconnect, I keep receiving the same disconnect message. network set up
[01:56] <azteech> - DSL modem, connected to linksys 10/100 hub, with 10/100 nic card, using static ip. Any ideas how to get Gaim to work correctly?
[01:56] <joetheodd> Is there anything I can do to be upgraded to hoary or breezy without downloading all the 230MB of stuff?
[01:56] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  mm, damn
[01:56] <blunted> !harddrive
[01:56] <ubotu> blunted: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:56] <Seveas> sevas_25, how did you install pure-ftpd?
[01:57] <Seveas> joetheodd, order a breezy cd :)
[01:57] <blunted> !/etc/fstab
[01:57] <ubotu> blunted: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:57] <butcherbird> ccc, if you need a gui you might try apt-getting pureadmin, looks like a front end to pure-ftpd
[01:57] <sevas_25> ./configure --with-everything
[01:57] <poningru> Seveas: I think its only for certain commands that pureftp requires FAM
[01:57] <joetheodd> Seveas: Anything else =p
[01:57] <Seveas> sevas_25, that's stupid
[01:57] <joetheodd> Seveas: Already did that, heh
[01:57] <poningru> sevas_25: why not try apt?
[01:57] <Seveas> you should install it from the repositories with synaptic
[01:57] <sevas_25> why ???
[01:57] <bobert> how would I get Ubuntu to recognize my flashdrive?
[01:57] <C_J_Pro> What is up with the forums?
[01:57] <sevas_25> I read the document
[01:57] <Seveas> C_J_Pro, maintenance
[01:57] <ccc> butcherbird: thanks!
[01:57] <C_J_Pro> ah
[01:57] <sevas_25> ohhh I see
[01:58] <Seveas> sevas_25, in Ubuntu you don't comile manually
[01:58] <Seveas> you install from repositories
[01:58] <Seveas> so things WORK
[01:58] <sevas_25> I know
[01:58] <dino_> is it possible to configure breezy for wpa encrypted wireless?
[01:58] <sevas_25> but  in apt-get  is 1.90 , n  I download the 1.20 version
[01:58] <Seveas> dino_, yes, but not easy, there's some info on wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[01:58] <SpudDogg> anyone know why every time i restart my computer, i cannot log back into Ubuntu, even though i KNOW im typing the right password?
[01:58] <Seveas> SpudDogg, caps lock on?
[01:58] <SpudDogg> nope, not that
[01:59] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  going to uninstall, n install from apt-get
[01:59] <poningru> sevas_25: that would be a good idea
[01:59] <sevas_25> tell u what happen in a second
[01:59] <sevas_25> thanx guy's
[01:59] <dino_> i tried apt-get install wpasupplicant, but it does not find it...is it wpasupplicant or some other name?
[01:59] <blunted> dude
[01:59] <Seveas> it's wpasupplicant
[02:00] <Seveas> but you need universe enabled
[02:00] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, is it possible this is simply a problem with the test page? I'm printing some text to see
[02:00] <gremid> hi, can someone tell me how to change the default text editor in gnome?
[02:00] <dino_> universe?
[02:01] <Seveas> greg, sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-text-editor
[02:01] <red_blood> people... for use mldonkey i must to download mldonkey-server? and then mldonkey-gui?
[02:02] <gremid> Seveas, thanks
[02:02] <Seveas> gremid*
[02:02] <C_J_Pro> anyone here know how I can customize the live cd so I can disable net.eth0 and add in a shell script to run when GNOME starts?
[02:02] <gremid> Seveas, greg is ok ;-)
[02:02] <rasher> Is there a simple way to make the udev/hal/gnome-volume-manager magic that happens when I insert a usb-storage device (mp3 player) mount the drive with the 'sync' option?
[02:03] <Seveas> rasher, iirc that it a compile-time option, but let me check
[02:03] <azteech> anyone have any idea(s) about the gaim problem outlined abouve?
[02:07] <SpudDogg> can someone help me with setting up an FTP server?
[02:07] <sevas_25> ftp name ??
[02:07] <SpudDogg> the one thats built into ubuntu
[02:07] <SpudDogg> admin-something?
[02:07] <sevas_25> name ????
[02:07] <sevas_25> pure-ftpd
[02:07] <SpudDogg> ahh
[02:08] <SpudDogg> thats it
[02:08] <Seveas> there's no ftp server built into ubuntu
[02:08] <sevas_25> the easy way 4 me was GUI
[02:08] <sevas_25> pureadmin
[02:08] <sevas_25> but  u need to compile
[02:08] <SpudDogg> pureadmin...thats it
[02:08] <sevas_25> is the GUI
[02:08] <SpudDogg> can you walk me through htat?
[02:09] <sevas_25> just install pureadmin
[02:09] <sevas_25> is  easy
[02:09] <SpudDogg> install that in the "repositories" right?
[02:09] <sevas_25> no no
[02:09] <crakrjak> where is a listing of packages that comes with ubuntu?
[02:09] <sevas_25> synaptic
[02:09] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/universe/p/pureadmin/pureadmin_0.1.11-1_i386.deb
[02:09] <crakrjak> s/comes/is available/
[02:09] <Seveas> sevas_25, pureadmin is in the repos....
[02:10] <Seveas> crakrjak, packages.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  danm
[02:10] <crakrjak> thanks much
[02:10] <eyequeue> SpudDogg:  if you want that, you
[02:10] <sevas_25> I getting old
[02:10] <SpudDogg> Seveas, i installed pureadmin...how do i configure?
[02:10] <eyequeue> 'll need universe
[02:10] <marcellus> Is ubuntuforums.org down?
[02:10] <Seveas> marcellus, yes, maintenance
[02:10] <BlankB> does anyone know where I can get a deb of cinelerra 2.0?
[02:10] <_jason> marcellus:  maintenance
[02:10] <Seveas> SpudDogg, ask sevas_25 he know more about it then I do
[02:11] <azteech> anyone have problems with gaim not getting connected to yahoo when 1st running it?
[02:11] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  U know a lot, trust me
[02:11] <SpudDogg> Seveas, ok...thanks
[02:11] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, think you can help me here?
[02:11] <tomek_> can some one help me?
[02:11] <carrett> hi. when i try to eject my ipod i get "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument" ... what can i do to fix that?
[02:11] <tomek_> im running ubuntu 5.10
[02:11] <evian> Seveas, I followed the instructions at http://tinyurl.com/8cv9q . I did have backports in my repository list and I removed it. But whereas before firefox was actually working, and it was only the update manager that was complaining about not being able to update firefox related packages, now firefox doesn't launch at all. I'm wondering if perhaps I need to delete some debs out of my cache before re-installing?
[02:11] <sevas_25> [spuddogg]  I guess
[02:12] <sevas_25> [spuddogg]  just install from synaptic
[02:12] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, ehh, if not thats cool
[02:12] <SpudDogg> i did that
[02:12] <Seveas> evian, upgrading firefox worked though?
[02:12] <tomek_> and it says it could not find svga and x
[02:12] <SpudDogg> how do i open it?
[02:12] <sevas_25> ok
[02:12] <evian> no problems reported, right
[02:12] <sevas_25> now start  pureadmin
[02:12] <Seveas> evian, killall firefox-bin
[02:12] <SpudDogg> ?
[02:12] <Seveas> and try starting it again
[02:12] <evian> ok...
[02:13] <sevas_25> just write that in console
[02:13] <evian> Thanks Seveas you genius you
[02:13] <Gobbla> evian, after a reboot it worked for me
[02:13] <sevas_25> [spuddogg]  shell >>  pureadmin
[02:14] <evian> thanks gobbla I see now that would have done it too
[02:14] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, i get an error "There was an error when tryting to create password file..."
[02:14] <sevas_25> letme see
[02:14] <i387dh3> hi all..
[02:15] <Seveas> Gobbla, a reboot is also a way to kill all stray firefox processes :)
[02:15] <Seveas> anyhow, off to bed
[02:15] <Seveas> 'night all
[02:15] <SpudDogg> ahh, ok
[02:15] <Gobbla> Seveas, yeah :)
[02:15] <sh0wtime> just installed ubunutu but when i reboot i lose my settings?
[02:15] <SpudDogg> how do i log in with root access?
[02:15] <evian> good night Seveas, thanks again
[02:15] <Gobbla> sh0wtime, like what?
[02:15] <Seveas> SpudDogg, sudo pureadmin
[02:15] <sh0wtime> Spud: sudo passwd root
[02:15] <i387dh3> my ubuntu's automount is suddenly not working.. can anyone help please..
[02:15] <Seveas> sh0wtime, VERY bad idea
[02:15] <flodine> is there a date for breezy yet
[02:16] <Seveas> do not suggest that to newbies
[02:16] <sevas_25> [spuddogg]  figureit out all ready ???
[02:16] <sh0wtime> Gobbla: my root password
[02:16] <steve407> Hello from Florida.  I'm new to Ubuntu and have a question.  I am running Ubuntu Live distro on Mac G4.  Works great!  However I managed to lock my self out.  Had to reboot.  What is default password for Live distro when no users set up?
[02:16] <Seveas> flodine, oct 13
[02:16] <Gobbla> sh0wtime, what do you mean?
[02:16] <Seveas> steve407, it's a bug
[02:16] <Seveas> it should not ask for a password
[02:16] <Nikopol> !lirc
[02:16] <ubotu> Nikopol: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:16] <steve407> Ah.  Not my fault?  Makes me feel better already!  ;-)
[02:16] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, no, this still isnt working...i get the error
[02:16] <rasher> Seveas: What's the verdict on the mount-magic sync/async thing?
[02:17] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi guys.. i need some help, i'm trying to install winXP on my kubuntu machine with vmware but i have this problem: even if i had specified the /media/hdc (my cdrom device) to be mounted on the virtual machine boot, in the first moment every kind of booting (HD, floppy, cdrom) is skipped and the network booting is started... what could i do? (the cdrom is shown mounted in the bottom-left corner)
[02:17] <sh0wtime> Gobbla: i installed ubuntu.. and changed the root password.. but when i reset it it boots up. (takes a while) and my root account isnt activated anymore
[02:17] <ccc> sevas_25, SpudDogg: i'm just trying out pureadmin/pureftpd myself for the first time. can't do anything in pureadmin, when i choose "manage users" and "create user file" it says 'no such file/dir'. running as sudo. it's not as noob-friendly as i was hoping :-)
[02:17] <Seveas> rasher, compile-time
[02:17] <Seveas> and now i'm really gone
[02:17] <SpudDogg> ccc, my problem exactly
[02:17] <steve407> Thanks for the info Seveas.  Appreciate it.
[02:17] <robotgeek> !mp3
[02:17] <ubotu> mp3 is probably read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:17] <evian> what is pureadmin?
[02:18] <abalone> I need help setting up a printer under ubuntu, currently it is not printing correctly for the page size
[02:18] <sevas_25> ccc  is a little confussing  the first time
[02:18] <ccc> evian: a gui for pureftpd (ftp-server)
[02:18] <Nikopol> !remote
[02:18] <ubotu> Nikopol: I don't know
[02:18] <evian> oh
[02:18] <sh0wtime> Gobbla: basicly my root password change was lost after the reset.. why would this happen?
[02:18] <Nikopol> !irc
[02:18] <ubotu> it has been said that irc is Internet Relay Chat. It is a virtual network with servers allowing connections from clients where many people connect and chat with each other related to Linux or even sex.
[02:18] <Gobbla> sh0wtime, well wouldnt know since i dont have a root password..
[02:18] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, I suppose it is possible that this ppd is not for this exact printer although the linuxprinting page says it is the exact printer, what would you advise in that situation?
[02:18] <ccc> sevas_25: word. but i can't figure out where to go from here.
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> abalone: you might have to hack up the ppd
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> abalone: the ppd sets your margins and locations
[02:19] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, do i need to run/install pureftpd before pureadmin?
[02:19] <sevas_25> [ccc]  we need to read more n install later :S
[02:19] <sevas_25> [spuddog]  yes
[02:19] <ccc> sevas_25: amen :)
[02:19] <sevas_25> pure-ftpd  synaptic
[02:20] <robotgeek> !backports
[02:20] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:20] <rasher> Dang, so I will *have* to unmount my mp3 player to make sure everything's updated. Simply yanking it won't work. Voe is me.
[02:20] <sevas_25> [ccc]   I was using pure-ftp in SUSE, now  move to  ubuntu
[02:21] <sevas_25> tookme a while to  make it run smootly
[02:21] <robotgeek> !extras
[02:21] <ubotu> [extras]  For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:21] <selinium> You've been busy Seveas :)
[02:21] <Seveas> yeah ban list was full
[02:21] <Seveas> and a fool needed to be added
[02:21] <cafebaby> :O
[02:21] <Noah0504> Sorry to ask, what I'm sure are stupid questions, but if I use EasyUbuntu to install some plugins and codecs, will those be lost or will they affect anything when I upgrade to Breezy when it's released?
[02:22] <Seveas> too bad i actually spent time talking to him before realizing he has been banned before
[02:22] <selinium> what was kataklsym's problem, He really didn't know when to let go
[02:22] <Earthen> anyone know how to make Adobe use the fonts it can't find Arial.bold font
[02:22] <evian> Seveas, was that Jan_ ? he was obnoxious
[02:22] <Seveas> selinium, I was the 3rd to ban him, this time his provider (DHCP) is banned
[02:22] <Seveas> evian, no, not Jan_, that idiot kataklysm
[02:23] <Seveas> Jan_ was just getting desperate (for a good reason)
[02:23] <evian> ok (Sorry Jan_)
[02:24] <sevas_26> come back
[02:24] <evian> Noah,0504, I'm  not sure the answer, but I think everything will work out all right with those plug-ins and upgrading
[02:24] <Seveas> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah cafuego_ is here
[02:24] <Seveas> now it's really time to go to bed
[02:24] <bob2> haha
[02:24] <robotgeek> me not able to install gstreamer-plugins, why is that?
[02:24] <MachineScrew> can some one tell me if there is a fix to X not loading on boot up
[02:24] <Seveas> hih bob2 :)
[02:25] <Earthen> could some one help with getting adobe to work with fonts
[02:25] <sinferno> my firefox wont upgrade because i locked it a while ago... i forgot how to unlock it
[02:25] <Seveas> austrialia/NZ is waking up I guess :)
[02:25] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, i have installed pureadmin and pure-ftpd.  when i type "sudo pureadmin" i still get the error "There was an error when trying to create the password file [] .  The error reported was 'No such file or directory'"
[02:25] <cafuego_> Seveas: Especially since it's already 10:30 am here. Sheesh, IRC Monkey.
[02:25] <Seveas> cafuego, *g*
[02:25] <Saint> [anyone]  I am hoping for quick advise:  I would like to set up a LAMP server for ,my own education, I am not experienced with Linux much at all:  Is UBUNTU easy to install things like an SQKL Server to?  Is there a more "Out of the Box" distro I should start with?
[02:25] <Seveas> you take over from here, it's been a busy evening :)
[02:25] <MachineScrew> its Breezy
[02:25] <selinium> Saint, yes there is a real easy walkthrough in the wiki. I'll find it for ya
[02:25] <evian> Saint, yeah its easy
[02:26] <bob2> Saint: "SQKL"? sql?
[02:26] <Scrawny1> seveas gimme the url for java again
[02:26] <Scrawny1> pls
[02:26] <Saint> [selenium]  AWSOME!  Thanks Selenium :)
[02:26] <bob2> MachineScrew: whether it's fixable or not depends on what the actual problem iss
[02:26] <SpudDogg> sevas_26, i have installed pureadmin and pure-ftpd.  when i type "sudo pureadmin" i still get the error "There was an error when trying to create the password file [] .  The error reported was 'No such file or directory'"
[02:26] <Nequeo> Heya... Are there known problems with any of the reps at the moment?
[02:26] <bob2> MachineScrew: did it work before you went to breezy
[02:26] <sinferno> my firefox wont upgrade because i locked it a while ago... i forgot how to unlock it
[02:26] <bob2> ?
[02:26] <evian> Scrawny its on the wiki
[02:26] <crimsun> Nequeo: no, they're working
[02:26] <MachineScrew> yes
[02:26] <Nequeo> I'm getting gzip errors...
[02:26] <bob2> Scrawny1: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:26] <Bad_Magic> can anyone help me get mplayer working? it locks up whenever i try to load a file (totem works)
[02:26] <selinium> Saint, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP there you go, it really is that simple! :)
[02:26] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi guys.. i need some help, i'm trying to install winXP on my kubuntu machine with vmware but i have this problem: even if i had specified the /media/hdc (my cdrom device) to be mounted on the virtual machine boot, in the first moment every kind of booting (HD, floppy, cdrom) is skipped and the network booting is started... what could i do? (the cdrom is shown mounted in the bottom-left corner)
[02:27] <Nequeo> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[02:27] <SpudDogg> !tell SpudDogg about FTP
[02:27] <Saint> Thanks again!   Would that be related to the fact that I can't access the forums at the moment, either?
[02:28] <_twitch_> "I wasnt able to start xserver, probably becuause it was set up incorrectly"
[02:28] <Bad_Magic> _jason: yup
[02:28] <cafebaby> ...
[02:28] <_jason> Bad_Magic: so codecs are all installed... no ideas, maybe someone with more knowledge can help, sry
[02:29] <steely> why is java useful?
[02:29] <sinferno> my firefox wont upgrade because i locked it a while ago... i forgot how to unlock it
[02:29] <SpudDogg> ccc, i figured out the problem with mine
[02:29] <Bad_Magic> !mplayer
[02:29] <SpudDogg> ccc, let me know if you need any help
[02:29] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.    Do you think I should allow the update or wait a while.   Which I can't find out how to satisfy.
[02:32] <joetheodd> Scrawny1: language.
[02:32] <Jan_> Ideas?
[02:32] <bob2> Nequeo: I don't know
[02:32] <cafuego_> joetheodd: 't was english
[02:32] <bob2> Jan_: why are you trying to compile the nvidia module at all?
[02:32] <Jan_> I'm not, I'm running the .run file
[02:32] <bob2> Jan_: why?
[02:32] <Earthen> someone help me with font problems?
[02:32] <Jan_> It can't find a kernel interface, or something.
[02:32] <Nequeo> bob2: No worries... I just heard someone else complaining about it. Switching to the American rep solved the problem.
[02:32] <joetheodd> cafuego_: I meant "watch your language"
[02:32] <Jan_> Because this laptop has nvidia graphics hardwarE?
[02:32] <bob2> Jan_: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <cafuego_> Jan_ Why don't you just use the prepackaged ubuntu driver?
[02:32] <_jason> Bad_Magic:  what turned out to be the problem?
[02:33] <Jan_> cafuego: I have a prepackaged ubuntu driver?
[02:33] <Jan_> How do I use it? Am I using it?
[02:33] <bob2> Nequeo: were you using archive.ubuntu.com before?
[02:33] <SpudDogg> ccc, you need to go to "edit -> preferences -> external" and hover over the "Default Password File" box, and enter the location it gives you there
[02:33] <bob2> Jan_: read the url I just gave you
[02:33] <Nequeo> bob2: Was using au.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <cafuego_> Jan_: Yep, it's in 'linux-restricted-modules-KERNELVERSION'
[02:33] <Jan_> And if I am using it, why is DVD playback sluggish in exactly the same way it was under red hat before we installed the nvidia driver?
[02:33] <SpudDogg> ccc, but i still cant start my server...i can now add users though :)
[02:33] <Jan_> It's in what?
[02:33] <cafuego_> Jan_: because dvd playback is not a function of gfx card.
[02:33] <Bad_Magic> _jason: the audio setting was changed in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf but not in the gui
[02:33] <bob2> Jan_:  wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <_jason> oh
[02:33] <durt> nvidia-glx jan_
[02:34] <bob2> Jan_: read that page, it explains it all
[02:34] <bob2> Nequeo: au.archive.ubuntu.com points at the same server as archive.ubuntu.com, so that does sound a bit like the proxy was caching something it shouldn't
[02:34] <Jan_> durt: What? What are you talking about, and in what context?
[02:34] <ColonelKernel> -mm patches dont seem to give any benefit
[02:34] <MachineScrew> It worked thanks
[02:35] <Bad_Magic> _jason: any idea how to get the video to stretch to the size of the window?
[02:35] <durt> jan_: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:35] <cafuego_> Jan_:  if DVD playback is chpooy, the driver most likely has problems moving data fast enough. That cna nomally be tuned by enabling DMA on the drive with 'hdparm'.
[02:35] <Jan_> Seveas: Look, I'm really not trying to be antagonistic here, but I am not a software engineer and people just keep throwing random alphanumerics at me. Seriously. No offence meant. OK?
[02:35] <cafuego_> s/chpooy/choppy/
[02:35] <SpudDogg> anyone know why in pureadmin my "Start Server" is greyed out and unclickable?
[02:35] <Nequeo> bob2: You know... I never thought to check that. But I feels robbed, now. I wants my Ozzie archive!
[02:35] <_jason> Bad_Magic:  I believe mine does it when I drag the window automatically
[02:35] <bob2> Nequeo: hehe
[02:35] <steely> does anyone know what packages allow ubuntu's multimedia to play mpegs?
[02:35] <Bad_Magic> _jason: care to pm me what you have selected under the video tab?
[02:36] <bob2> Nequeo: mirror.isp.net.au has a mirror, as does internode (but that's only available to internode customers)
[02:36] <Nequeo> bob2: Normally I would just wait for things to fix themselves... they always have before. But I want to try out the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel sooner rather than later.
[02:36] <bob2> steely: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:36] <Nequeo> bob2: Having problems with 100% CPU usage from Xorg whenever I'm moving windows, or even just scrolling around.
[02:36] <ColonelKernel> Nequeo, thats normal
[02:36] <JDahl> Isn't it a little gentooish of Debian to only distribute a source package of openafs-client and let user build kernel modules from it? I know it's easy to do, but I havent seen that approach used in Debian before
[02:37] <SpudDogg> bob2, you seem to be pretty good with this OS...do you know anything about pureadmin?
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> JDahl: could be a licensing problem
[02:37] <JDahl> HrdwrBoB, it's not
[02:37] <Nequeo> Not like this, it's not... Everything feels 'sticky' and 'slow'
[02:37] <bob2> JDahl: including modules for it means rebuilding it for every single kernel-image uploade
[02:37] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, any suggestions on achieving this margin setup?
[02:37] <bob2> Nequeo: are you using Composite?
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> abalone: sorry I'm not sure, I've never done it only know that's how you do it
[02:37] <bob2> SpudDogg: I've never used pureftpd; I'd just use proftpd or vsftpd.
[02:38] <SpudDogg> bob2, do either of those have a GUI?
[02:38] <Nequeo> bob2: I never installed it...
[02:38] <bob2> SpudDogg: doubt it
[02:38] <bob2> Nequeo: dunno then, sorry
[02:38] <SpudDogg> bob2, ok man, thanks
[02:38] <abalone> anyone in here setup a printer before? :P
[02:38] <Nequeo> bob2: No worries. No-one knows! :) I think it's a motherboard issue, personally.
[02:39] <Nequeo> bob2: I had the same problem in Hoary when I switched motherboards, without doing a reinstall.
[02:39] <Nequeo> bob2: But now Breezy does it, even with a clean install. Whereas a clean install of Hoary fixed it.
[02:39] <fadumpt> any chance I can get someones Breezy Badger /dev/dsp?
[02:39] <clynch> @anyone:  Has anyone found any support to connection via an IPsec connection to a Watchguard firewall?
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> thats so weird, ubuntu still reverses the DNS servers my router gives
[02:39] <bob2> fadumpt: er, you want the contents of their /dev/dsp?
[02:40] <fadumpt> yeah, like the whole dsp
[02:40] <bob2> fadumpt: that's not how it works, sorry
[02:40] <fadumpt> not how it works?
[02:40] <bob2> fadumpt: reading from that file gives you audio data from their microphone
[02:40] <Jan_> Attempting to follow the instructions to install the nvidia driver results in the error "e: couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config"
[02:40] <fadumpt> O_o
[02:40] <fadumpt> not understanding you
[02:40] <WebLOCH> !tell WebLOCH about w32codecs
[02:40] <bob2> clynch: Watchguard requires non-standard ipsec settings?
[02:40] <bob2> JDahl: read it again
[02:41] <ccc> SpudDogg: nice, thanks
[02:41] <JDahl> bob2, read what?
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> can anyone tell me why Ubuntu puts my dns servers in reverse order? no other distro/OS does this...
[02:41] <bob2> fadumpt: /dev/dsp is their soundcard.  writing data to it makes sound come out the speakers. reading from it reads audi ofrom the microphone
[02:41] <Nequeo> bob2: Thanks for the help. Cheers,
[02:41] <bob2> Nequeo: np
[02:41] <clynch> bob2:  Not quite.  The Win32 software is based off of the SafeNet IPSec software.  Also, one can use FreeSwan to create a gateway-to-gateway tunnel.
[02:41] <Jan_> ooh
[02:41] <SpudDogg> ccc, you have a chat client?
[02:41] <Jan_> nv logo
[02:42] <clynch> bob2:  I'm looking for a roaving user VPN client for Ubuntu
[02:42] <fadumpt> bob2, so I deleted my /dev/dsp, isn't someone else's more or less the same"?
[02:42] <bob2> clynch: so what's the issue with connecting to this firewall, compared to any other ipsec destination?
[02:42] <liz4rd> i just installed ubuntu 5.04, was it a smart move for me to right away change the sources.list to breezy and do a dist-upgrade???
[02:42] <bob2> fadumpt: that was dumb
[02:42] <bob2> fadumpt: but it will be recreated on reboot
[02:42] <fadumpt> yeah well, *most* things in any OS reinstall themselves
[02:42] <fadumpt> see, okay, rebot
[02:42] <fadumpt> reboot*
[02:42] <fadumpt> :)
[02:43] <ccc> SpudDogg: join #pureadmin for a sec
[02:43] <Jan_> OK
[02:43] <Jan_> NV driver didn't help playback
[02:43] <bob2> fadumpt: sudo mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3
[02:43] <Jan_> what was that DMA thing
[02:43] <sevas_25> [ccc]
[02:44] <liz4rd> any answers? :P
[02:44] <sevas_25> is working now ??
[02:44] <mark_> im hot now
[02:45] <ccc> sevas_25: working? no
[02:45] <kwixted> quit
[02:45] <andrewski_> can anyone help?  i'm having trouble finding the available resolutions for a monitor.  google and the manufacturer's pages were no help, and i'm stuck in 640x480 now. :-/
[02:45] <jbroome> 6
[02:46] <greedyb> does Ubuntu have an HCL like list of supported hardware?
[02:46] <bimberi> liz4rd: breezy is in pre-release, but you should be OK.  Hoary is fine though
[02:46] <Jan_> I am having problems with DVD playback stuttering.
[02:46] <Jan_> Someone mentioned DMA on the DVD drive.
[02:46] <Jan_> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:46] <bob2> greedyb: "everything you'd find in a desktop or laptop aside from wireless cards with Free drivers"
[02:46] <bob2> Jan_: searching the wiki for DMA gave no results?
[02:46] <liz4rd> bimberi, but do you think i should of did a dist-upgrade before doing it with breezy repos? or will thebreezy one automaticly update and install everything
[02:47] <greedyb> well I'm about to buy a network card for multiple operating systems..... FreeBSD,Ubuntu and Gentoo
[02:47] <Rich43> I have NetBSD :)
[02:47] <bimberi> liz4rd: what you did should be fine and result in a current breezy snapshot
[02:47] <bob2> Jan_: for instance, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[02:47] <Jan_> bob2: which wiki
[02:47] <Jan_> oh
[02:47] <Jan_> THAT wiki.
[02:47] <bob2> greedyb: as in ethernet? intel cards seem to work very well
[02:48] <PiercedH20> Any ndiswrapper gurus in here?
[02:48] <greedyb> D-Link DFE-530TX+
[02:48] <bob2> PiercedH20: best to just ask your question
[02:48] <PiercedH20> ok bob2
[02:48] <bob2> greedyb: that's cabled ethernet, right?
[02:48] <greedyb> correct
[02:48] <liz4rd> bimberi, Alright thank you
[02:48] <Jan_> how do I know which hd number my DVD ROM is
[02:48] <greedyb> it uses the realtek drivers for freebsd
[02:48] <bimberi> liz4rd: yw :)
[02:49] <usuario> ke ondas
[02:49] <PiercedH20> I installed the driver for my Belkin Wireless G NIC using ndiswrapper, but the lights on the NIC still do not come on.  What should my next step be?
[02:49] <bob2> greedyb: yeah, should work fine
[02:49] <greedyb> ok cool
[02:49] <ColonelKernel> yeah, -mm didnt help things out at all
[02:50] <ColonelKernel> it even gave a very slight performance decrease from 2.6.14-rc2
[02:50] <oasick> hi
[02:50] <renjii> question: if i need to compile something from source, how would it affect the apps installed using apt-get?
[02:50] <renjii> would it break?
[02:50] <oasick> i hava had a problem upgradin ubuntu with te backports repositories
[02:50] <durt> PiercedH20: you might have to remove some module (ie, i had to rmmod acx_pci because my card has an acx chipset)
[02:51] <bimberi> renjii: you should uninstall (apt-get remove) first
[02:51] <PiercedH20> durt: do you have a website with some walk-throughs?
[02:51] <PiercedH20> IM a linux newbie :(
[02:51] <lenojeeno> how do I burn ubuntu.iso into a cd?
[02:52] <sinferno> im having trouble updating firefox in aptitude under mozilla-firefox (= 1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1) it says UNSATISFIED
[02:52] <Rich43> Nero if on windows
[02:52] <bob2> renjii: no, it'll be fine, just make sure you install things in /usr/local when compiling from source
[02:52] <bob2> sinferno: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[02:52] <durt> piercedh20: try here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[02:53] <PiercedH20> thanks durt
[02:53] <lenojeeno> Rich43: I've already tried that, but that copies the file "ubuntu.iso" into cd
[02:53] <Jan_> How do I figure out which device my DVD-ROM is?
[02:54] <lenojeeno> Rich43?
[02:55] <Jan_> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc solved the DVD problem
[02:55] <Rich43> Start nero smart start
[02:55] <Rich43> Go to copy and backup
[02:55] <_jason> If I have compiled a pkg can another user isntall it or does he need the libraries and such I sued to compile it?
[02:55] <Rich43> Click burn image to disc
[02:55] <lenojeeno> k
[02:55] <bob2> go backports, it's your birthday
[02:55] <lenojeeno> let me see
[02:55] <renjii> bob2 - wouldnt autoconfig find the environment variables by default? or would i have problems if, say if apt-get has some dependencies installed elsewhere-...what i want to know is whether apt-get provides tools like gentoo's emerge-tools that would allow me to find where dependencies are, which files belongs to which packages and so forth
[02:56] <bob2> sinferno: answer is in the channel /topic
[02:56] <oasick> bob2. i have that problem too
[02:56] <bob2> renjii: yes, of  course apt has that
[02:56] <oasick> but i cant open a web page because my firefox don't works...
[02:56] <renjii> alrighty- wil look up the man then.
[02:56] <sinferno> bob2, thanks
[02:56] <bob2> renjii: apt is going to utterly ignore things you compile from source, unless it's carefully told otherwise, tho
[02:57] <sinferno> bob2, gah firefox wont work so i can see it lol
[02:57] <renjii> ah yes...- any chances of it leading to dependency hell?
[02:57] <bob2> situations where it's useful to recompile libraries or other things that packages Depend on are very rare, tho
[02:57] <bob2> renjii: no, apt will ignore it entirly
[02:57] <bob2> renjii: keep compiled things in /usr/local/ and you'll be fine
[02:57] <renjii> bob2 - thanks.
[02:57] <lenojeeno> Rich43: I already did that but that copies the whole file "ubunto.iso" into cd.
[02:59] <paul_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:00] <zone17> Hi, how do I change the default font in gaim and xchat? It's very very small.
[03:00] <lenojeeno> Rich43?
[03:01] <zone17> I know it has to do with gtk2, but I can't remember where its done
[03:01] <bimberi> zone17: Settings -> Preferences in xchat
[03:01] <zone17> no
[03:01] <zone17> its in kde
[03:01] <zone17> the default font
[03:01] <norhted> hi, does anyone know how to install texi2pdf?
[03:01] <bob2> zone17: switch2 fro mthe gtk-theme-switch might help
[03:02] <selinium> where are the channel logs kept?
[03:02] <zone17> in breezy the old control panel is gone, I don't know where to set it up in the new
[03:02] <chupalo> hi everyone
[03:02] <bob2> sinferno: people.ubuntu.com/~irclogs/
[03:02] <bob2> bah
[03:03] <selinium> gotit
[03:03] <norhted> how can i install texi2pdf to my ubuntu?
[03:03] <chupalo> new to ubuntu and want to know if there is a way to install it on a pc without cdrom using FTP?
[03:03] <selinium> bob2: not any more they're not!
[03:04] <norhted> Seveas, are you reading this?
[03:04] <bimberi> selinium: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:05] <selinium> cheers bimberi
[03:05] <bimberi> selinium: yw :)
[03:05] <bob2> selinium: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[03:05] <steely> has anyone had any experience with kaudiocreator?
[03:05] <bob2> chupalo: can your machine boot using pxe?
[03:05] <selinium> bob2, bimberi got there first!
[03:05] <selinium> :)
[03:05] <bimberi> i wake up earlier :P
[03:06] <Buddha|> I'm running the Ubuntu 5.10 prerelease live-cd on a 2004 iBook, and I can't ctrl-click.  Is there a fix for this?
[03:08] <chupalo> what is pxe?
[03:08] <moparfan90> does anyone know a free game that has ood graphics and is like grand turismo or need for spped underground????
[03:08] <moparfan90> pixel maybe
[03:08] <Topslakr> pxe is a network boot protocol
[03:09] <Topslakr> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/PXE.html
[03:09] <HrdwrBoB> Preboot eXecution Environment
[03:09] <chupalo> yes is can boot from the network but I don't have any server sw?
[03:09] <neighborlee> moparfan90, you can seach synaptic for that pattern , that or hop over to happypenguin.org and have a glance...there are a few but I dont believe at that level of complexity...
[03:09] <bob2> chupalo: then you need another unix machien you can run a dhcp and tftp server on
[03:10] <kev_> i just did an upgrade (which upgraded the kernel and parts of xorg) and now use of the nvidia kernel module (to power an nvidia video card) is not working. any suggestions?
[03:10] <bob2> chupalo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[03:10] <chupalo> The problem is that I don't own another Linux/unix PC.
[03:11] <chupalo> Is there any way to do it using a m$-xp?
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> possiby
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> but I doubt people on here know
[03:11] <nybble> hello all
[03:12] <Kimahri> kev_: install build-essential , gcc, and g++, then download the nvidia driver pack from nvidia
[03:12] <Kimahri> kev_: once you unpack it, it'll build the kernel modules for that running kernel... oh, and it also requires the kernel source package for the kernel that you're running
[03:12] <bob2> kev_: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto, follow it again
[03:13] <bob2> Kimahri: no, it requires the kernel headers, not the sourcew
[03:13] <jonnyro> Is there a graphical PPTP client for linux?
[03:13] <jonnyro> I want to connect to a VPN
[03:13] <kev_> Kimahri: in the past i've been able to use the restricted modules pack. is there an issue with it and the latest -k7 kernel?
[03:13] <sambagirl> i did the upgrade to breezy but it did not do anything as far as i know. i did full procedure but nothing saying breezy anywhere
[03:14] <Kimahri> bob2: it's always required a working .config in the kernel source folder for me
[03:14] <Kimahri> kev_: if it's in the restricted modules pack, chances are that it's not built for the kernel you're running
[03:14] <neighborlee> chupalo, no idea if this is what you need but I found this: http://pxes.sourceforge.net/howtos/ms_only_environment/
[03:15] <kev_> Kimahri: what makes you say that? i'm using the latest -k7 kernel image from the standard repository.
[03:15] <Jan_> Is there somewhere constructive I could bitch about the issues with hibernating this Toshiba laptop
[03:15] <kev_> Kimahri: are there known issues with the restricted modules?
[03:15] <signbarn> sambagirl: do you get the groovy boot screen?
[03:15] <Jambon> ok random question. I'm in different channel and I want to set myself as an op. how do I do that?
[03:15] <sambagirl> no
[03:15] <sambagirl> really? a groovy boot screen?
[03:15] <Kimahri> kev_: i wouldn't know... i've always just downloaded the nvidia driver pack and installed it by hand.
[03:15] <bob2> Kimahri: yes, and the source packages contain no .config files in the tree; nor the built headers
[03:15] <kev_> Kimahri: k. i'll give that a try. thanks!
[03:15] <bob2> Jan_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:15] <moparfan90> i was trying to run a exacutable and got this:
[03:16] <moparfan90> ./vdrift: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:16] <signbarn> err a splash screen instead of the normal white-on-black
[03:16] <sambagirl> maybe i should try again.