[13:46] <jugger90> I can't edit notes from browser
[13:46] <jugger90> it's seem sync to ubuntu tomboy too
[13:47] <jugger90> don't sync  I mean
[13:52] <rtgz> jugger90, Web sync is a known issue, please refer to  bug #501020. This is a server side problem. As per tomboy sync - could you please quit tomboy, then start it from terminal with --debug switch and try to sync?
[13:58] <jugger90> in another try it's seems to sync ubuntu one and tomboy, but still can't edit from browser
[13:59] <jugger90> from browser in another machine
[14:04] <rtgz> jugger90, the browser issue is something that we might poke mattgriffin right now...
[14:04] <rtgz> mattgriffin, what is the status for webui notes sync?
[14:05]  * mattgriffin is checking on webui notes sync status
[14:06] <mattgriffin> rtgz: do you recall the bug number?
[14:06] <rtgz> mattgriffin, bug #501020
[14:07] <rtgz> Tomboy sync is no longer broken, the issues with & and other entities are still remaining. But the web ui is not cooperative at the moment
[14:09] <jugger90> yes,i can see edit done from tomboy in browser but can't edit
[14:12] <mattgriffin> jugger90, rtgz: the main developer that was working on that feature is probably out to lunch but should be back soon.... then I'll find out the status of the fix. sorry for the delay.
[14:13] <mattgriffin> is anyone using Ubuntu One in a multi-platform environment ... like Ubuntu + Windows or Mac?
[14:14] <jugger90> thank you
[14:14] <jugger90> i accessing from debian and windows
[14:15] <mattgriffin> jugger90: cool. headed to pycon this year? you can help out with the windows port sprint :)
[14:20] <jugger90> will windows client codes by python?
[14:25] <mattgriffin> jugger90: not sure... here's where you can get a little more info: http://voices.canonical.com/ubuntuone/?p=206
[14:28] <statik> jugger90, yes it's all python right now. you can see the code at https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client . we might need to write some UI bits in C++ or C#, but the core will still be python
[14:33] <magatz> Hi facundobatista, i've read on the ubuntuone mailinglist about the u1conflict
[14:34] <magatz> you have said there is one konwn bug that can generate problems of this kind
[14:35] <facundobatista> magatz, there have been multiple bugs, most of them already fixed
[14:35] <magatz> i'm using 1.02 on karmic, and i still see this problem
[14:36] <magatz> btw i'm trying to sync 37 gb of files,and it's a pain tho check all the .u1conflict generated
[14:38] <magatz> one question: wich string (in the logs)  says that syncdaemon is uploading?
[14:39] <dobey> magatz: please enable the Proposed Updates (karmic-proposed) source in the Updates tab of the Software Sources configuration, refresh, and install the 1.0.3 updates for ubuntuone-client, and try to confirm if you still have the issues
[14:41] <magatz> sorry for the mistake i said 1.02, bit a quick check says 1.03 with Proposed updates enabled
[14:41] <dobey> jugger90, statik: the only win32 code that would *need* to be C/C++ (or maybe C#), is integration with Explorer
[14:42] <statik> yeah, you can do shell extensions in python but they have terrible performance
[14:58] <jblount> I LIVE
[14:58] <mattgriffin> :)
[14:59] <urbanape> yay, jblount
[14:59] <rtgz> Ok, since I am going to be away for next 2 hours, have a look here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanYepishev/UbuntuOne/ProxySupport - this is a hack, but works for me. Next stop - CouchDB proxy support for replication
[14:59] <rtgz> does it even exist?
[15:00] <jugger90> thank you
[15:01] <rtgz> btw, it appears that SSL CN is not checked, localhost subst for fs-1 seems to go unnoticed with _default_ syncdaemon.conf' settings
[15:03] <urbanape> no standup today, since bug day, right?
[15:04] <dobey> that's what i thought
[15:05] <urbanape> cool, just checking.
[15:08] <CardinalFang> Desktop+ MEETING BEGINS.  Say 'me' to claim a slice of the stand-up meeting, then take your turn by saying DONE/TODO/BLOCKED.
[15:10] <urbanape> hrm?
[15:11] <urbanape> a bug day sez whut?
[15:11] <CardinalFang> Yeah.
[15:11] <CardinalFang> meeting ends!  so sorry.
[15:11] <urbanape> heh
[15:12] <urbanape> what should we do with bugs that only contain a reference to an OOPS, and nothing else. No description or attachments. Are we meant to find the oops log and attach it?
[15:12] <CardinalFang> Hrm.  Probably.
[15:15] <urbanape> and is there a convention for dealing with syncdaemon timeouts? I've got two of those.
[15:16] <dobey> well attaching the OOPS log might not be viable, depending on what it contains.
[15:16] <dobey> not sure about sd timeouts
[15:19] <jamalta> OpenID authentication failed: Nonce already used or out of range
[15:19] <jamalta> :(
[15:19] <jamalta> nvm, going to one.ubuntu.com logged me in
[15:21] <jblount> jamalta: It's a djanog-openid problem that has a branch on it's way to fix. Sorry about that :(
[15:21] <jamalta> jblount: oh it's ok, i just thought i couldn't log in at al
[15:21] <jamalta> all*
[15:22] <jamalta> I'm testing U1 for the first time, had my wife copy some files at home and waiting for them to show up here at work
[15:22] <jamalta> Just wanted to check to see if it showed up online yet.. heh
[15:55] <magatz> how can i easily wipe out every file on ubuntune web folders (without clicking for delete every single file single?)
[16:04] <rtg|awayz> magatz, I believe you can remove folders
[16:05] <magatz> yes but i can't delete the main folder "My Files"
[16:14] <rtg|awayz> magatz, yes, this is a root folder; so if there are many files in this folder then that might take a lot of time to remove them.
[16:16] <magatz> is this a design flaw? i think it should behave like a norma operating system folder....
[16:17] <jblount> magatz: I just deleted the entire folder ~/Ubuntu One/ on my system, are you attempting to do this from the website?
[16:18] <magatz> yes, because i want to test a scratch resync
[16:40] <mandel> rodrigo_ ping
[16:44] <rodrigo_> hi mandel
[16:45] <mandel> rodrigo_ question, does the size of the desktopcouch data influence the ubuntuone storage?
[16:45] <rodrigo_> mandel, hmm, I think so but not sure, statik?
[16:46] <mandel> rodrigo_ cause like I said in the mailing list, if it does, deleted records with attachments are a pain, if it does not, people might use it to store more data on ubuntu one that allowed
[16:46] <rodrigo_> yeah, saw it
[16:46] <rodrigo_> I think it does count
[16:46] <rtgz> nope
[16:47] <rtgz> bug 475636
[16:47] <rtgz> rodrigo_, mandel ^
[16:47] <mandel> dammed you private bug reports!
[16:49] <rodrigo_> hmm
[16:54] <rodrigo_> mandel, it's about notes and contacts not counting on used space
[16:54] <mandel> rodrigo_ yes but bad people are smart....
[16:55] <rodrigo_> yeah :)
[16:58] <rtgz> rodrigo_, we need to prevent ubottu from logging this conversation :)
[16:59] <rodrigo_> :)
[16:59] <dobey> bbiab, lunch
[17:07] <mattgriffin> statik, pfibiger: how should we handle bug #512677? the reporter says it's a security vulnerability. is there another canonical team that will review this first?
[17:35] <mattgriffin> rtgz: ping
[17:42] <mandel> aquarius, hopefully no one in the class room decides to find out about http://launchpad.net/bugs/475636
[17:44] <aquarius> mandel, ssssh :)
[17:45] <mandel> aquarius, I know, but I gave a huge hint in the google groups you just showed in lernid ;)
[17:46] <rtgz> mattgriffin, pong
[17:49] <rtgz> mattgriffin, Statistics for rtgz: roundrip: 11m
[17:50] <rtgz> roundtrip
[18:16] <mattgriffin> rtgz: hi. sorry for the late reply. i checked on bug #501020 and it should be fixed this week.
[18:17] <rtgz> mattgriffin, ah, ok, thanks for the update :)
[18:17] <mattgriffin> np
[18:30] <rmcbride_> #bzr
[18:30] <rmcbride_> oops
[18:53] <mhall119|work> hey rmcbride_
[18:53] <rmcbride_> hi mhall119|work
[19:07] <dobey> heh


[08:12] <Saviq> trainguards, can someone please restart the failed build here https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-033 thanks :)
[08:12] <sil2100> Saviq: on it
[08:12] <sil2100> Rebuilding :)
[08:12] <Saviq> tx
[13:33] <jibel> trainguards could anyone have a look at silo 77 and why it is stuck in a 'Preparing Packages' state
[13:48] <Mirv> jibel: looking
[13:50] <sil2100> hmmm
[13:50] <Mirv> jibel: looks normal now, sil just ran a diff_only build job, the packages are built ok and bileto should probably update with "Packages built" soon
[13:50] <sil2100> Yeah, I guess it already should, or am I just impatient?
[13:52] <Mirv> sil2100: maybe too impatient, at least I'm often left hoping bileto would update faster after a job is done
[13:52] <Mirv> sil2100: now it's still that only 15 mins or something? for any status update.
[14:00] <sil2100> Let me wait in that case
[14:00] <sil2100> ;)
[14:01] <Mirv> sil2100: well... I'm starting to be impatient too now :)
[14:13] <sil2100> I guess it's officially b0rken
[14:29] <jibel> boiko, 57 approved
[14:29] <boiko> jibel: great! thanks!
[14:58] <Mirv> alex-abreu: QA already went through 31, but https://code.launchpad.net/~abreu-alexandre/webbrowser-app/text-color-for-theme-color-webapps/+merge/287058 was not top-approved and it seems mardy has some comments there too. please do not mark a silo ready for QA if all branches are not (top)approved.
[15:01] <alex-abreu> Mirv, yes there was a race in the review vs approval
[15:02] <alex-abreu> Mirv, checking w/ mardy
[15:05] <alex-abreu> jibel, I have to re-push some small updates (minor) to a branch in silo 31, ... I have to mark it as non approved in the meantime, would you mind going QA again on it as soon as it is britney approved?
[15:19] <jibel> alex-abreu, what is the diff with what has previously been tested?
[15:19] <Mirv> alex-abreu: thanks for looking into it!
[15:19] <alex-abreu> jibel, small diff, updating the branch in a few mns
[15:20] <jibel> alex-abreu, it should be possible to reland today
[15:20] <jibel> if it's a trivial change
[16:03] <alex-abreu> jibel, the branch have been approved, some small changes associated backed up w/ test updates
[16:03] <alex-abreu> jibel, I am rebuilding the silo to retest
[16:03] <alex-abreu> jibel, https://code.launchpad.net/~abreu-alexandre/webbrowser-app/text-color-for-theme-color-webapps/+merge/287058
[16:39] <alex-abreu> jibel, I approved silo 31, britney still needs to catch up
[16:40] <robru> sil2100: Mirv: jibel: indeed the status job for silo 77 was stuck, killed it, should work now
[16:40] <jibel> robru, too late it landed
[16:42] <robru> jibel: well, no, the status was just stuck at 'publishing' so indeed the status still needs to update to track the migration
[16:42] <jibel> alex-abreu, thanks. It will be retested once the card is created
[16:42] <robru> like that ^
[16:42] <jibel> robru, ah ok, I saw the packges uploaded to the overlay ppa
[16:42] <alex-abreu> jibel, wdym by once the card is recreated? you have "rolling cards" ?
[16:42] <robru> tvoss: jibel: of course this location-service in silo 77 is using the old way of generating debian/control that doesn't work anymore.
[16:43] <jibel> alex-abreu, when automated tests will pass, the silo will be marked ready for QA and a card will be created on the trello board
[16:43] <alex-abreu> jibel, ah sorry yeah
[17:07] <tvoss> robru, which changes do you need?
[17:08] <robru> tvoss: you're not using bileto_pre_release_hook which means your script is only run at binary package build time, not at source package build time
[17:08] <robru> tvoss: I'm working on a branch
[17:09] <tvoss> robru, can we just put that branch in the silo to be good for landing?
[17:09] <robru> tvoss: once I finish writing it, yeah.
[17:09] <robru> tvoss: please stop copy&pasting gen-debian-files.sh into all your projects, it's the old way
[17:09] <tvoss> robru, what's the new way?
[17:10] <robru> tvoss: bileto_pre_release_hook, I have half a dozen branches fixing this in various projects.
[17:10] <robru> tvoss: this is https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg19015.html from two weeks ago
[17:16] <robru> tvoss: I dunno, your silo was published already, probably easiest to just let it migrate and include my branch in your next silo.
[17:19] <robru> tvoss: anyway, here's a new branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/location-service/pre_release_hook/+merge/291017 based on top of yours
[17:21] <tvoss> robru, ack and thx
[17:21] <tvoss> robru, will review it after dinner
[17:23] <robru> ok
[17:57] <robru> mterry: kenvandine: either of you around to help me with some packaging stuff? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/251771383/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles_1.3.1872+16.04.20160405.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz I forget how to troubleshoot this
[17:59] <mterry> robru: ok, so qttools5-dev-tools couldn't install
[17:59] <mterry> robru: I don't see the cause there -- can you reproduce locally in a pbuilder or something?
[17:59] <robru> mterry: not sure how to reproduce it even really.
[17:59] <robru> mterry: it's a train package, so what, download the source package from the ppa and try building locally?
[18:00] <robru> mterry: the weird thing is that this package was built by taking a different source package and applying a patch and uploading that, the original one also build-deps on qttools5-dev-tools and that installed ok there
[18:00] <mterry> robru: Yeah...  If the package doesn't change build-depends and there are none of the build-depends in the ppa with it, you can just try in any old pbuilder to do: "apt-get build-dep ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles"
[18:00] <robru> mterry: so presumably something the patch did brought in a new build dep that conflicts with qttools5-dev-tools but I'm not sure which one
[18:01] <mterry> robru: otherwise you may need to install the silo into your pbuilder
[18:01] <mterry> and then do that
[18:01] <robru> mterry: yeah the archive version of the package is fine, it's just an experimental ppa package that I broke
[18:01] <mterry> k
[18:02] <robru> mterry: I'm also trying to review the diff between my experiment and the archive version but it's hard because I ran wrap-and-sort so there's a lot of diff noise
[18:03] <robru> mterry: is there a way to install build-deps from a local source tree?
[18:05] <robru> mterry: urgh, builds fine locally after 'sudo apt-get build-dep ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles; sudo apt-get install qttools5-dev-tools', I'll try again in sbuild.
[18:05] <mterry> robru: from local tree.... pbuilder ships a script to do it...
[18:06] <robru> mterry: better to use sbuild though since that's what the ppa is using, right?
[18:06] <mterry> robru: sure.  I just don't know how sbuild does it  :P
[18:08] <robru> mterry: (excuse me while I debootstrap xenial...)
[18:10] <robru> mterry: ok I reproduced it locally ;-)
[18:10] <mterry> robru: oh nice, that was fast
[18:10] <robru> mterry: I guess I need to enter the schroot and poke around?
[18:13] <mterry> robru: yeah...  trying to manually install the package from inside schroot should give you better error messages
[18:13] <robru> mterry: yeah I dunno this is where I get lost. I can run 'sbuild' in the source tree and reproduce the error, but if I enter the schroot manually I'm not sure what commands to run to reproduce it.
[18:13] <robru> mterry: like the log only says it's trying to install sbuild-build-depends-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles-dummy so I don't actually know what packages to try to install to reproduce this
[18:13] <mterry> should be as simple as apt-get install qttools5-dev-tools once the schroot is all set up?
[18:15] <robru> mterry: no that's not it, that installs fine, also the ubuntu-ui-toolkit (no -gles) from the same PPA also build-deps on that and installs fine.
[18:15] <robru> mterry: something else is being installed that conflicts with qttools5-dev-tools I thnk
[18:15] <mterry> k
[18:16] <mterry> robru: so this is where I guess you try to figure out the sbuild call that generates and tries to install the sbuild-build-depends-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles-dummy metapackage.  And try to find out what that metapackage is actually depending on
[18:16] <mterry> robru: (I'm not super familiar with sbuild, I'm not sure)
[18:16] <robru> mterry: yeah how do I find that? is there an option to sbuild to not clean up after a failure?
[18:16] <robru> heh
[18:17] <mterry> robru: I'd guess poke around and manually run what sbuild automatically runs -- trick is finding that command line
[18:17] <mterry> robru: or if there is an option to not clean up, that would be good too
[18:17] <mterry> kenvandine: do you know sbuild better than me? ^
[18:17] <kenvandine> mterry, i use it sometimes :)
[18:18] <kenvandine> ah, no idea what does that
[18:18] <kenvandine> i bet that's a flavor/arch issue
[18:18] <robru> mterry: erk, so eg here's the patch I'm applying: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~robru/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/inline-gles-quilt/view/head:/debian/gles-patches/convert-to-gles.patch so I just tried 'apt-get install qttools5-dev-tools [all the new build-deps added by the patch]' and it worked. so that's really weird.
[18:19] <robru> was expecting one would conflict
[18:27] <robru> mterry: hrm, found one thing build-dep'ing on a package that doesn't exist, not sure if that's related. will try rebuilding it in the ppa, brb
[18:49] <robru> mterry: blah, didn't help
[18:57] <robru> mterry: ok I'm officially stumped, I tried installing the full list of build deps in a schroot and it worked. I can only reproduce it with sbuild on the source tree, not with apt-get in a schroot
[18:57] <mterry> :(
[18:59] <mterry> robru: and examining the diff for oddness didn't yield any clues?
[19:00] <robru> mterry: it's difficult because the -gles package has drifted significantly from the non-gles trunk that it's supposed to track, so I'm seeing this huge diff and I can't tell what's there because I've updated it to match the trunk and what's there because I've made a mistake
[19:00] <robru> mterry: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_363fe1b4bfe34b0295bc243be24dfbf1/bileto-1166/2016-04-05_18:30:03/xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles/packaging_changes.diff
[19:01] <mterry> robru: and the diff between it and non-gless is still tiny?
[19:01] <robru> mterry: look at convert-to-gles.patch in the scrollback, it's small
[19:03] <mterry> robru: yup.  But does at least muck with the build-deps so that's comforting.  Explains why we might die with -gles but not the other way
[19:03] <robru> mterry: yeah, but like I said, I tried a manual apt-get install of the complete list of build deps with that patch applied and it worked.
[19:04] <mterry> robru: as a sanity experiment, I'm assuming if you take just the Build-Dep changes and port them to to the non-gles version, you'd die locally on the same error (obvi it would ftbfs too later, but we wouldn't see that)
[19:04] <robru> hmm
[19:05] <mterry> robru: the fix for this might be using some -gles version of some new build-depend
[19:07] <robru> mterry: indeed, if I take lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit trunk and apply only the build-dep changes I reproduce the same error
[19:13] <robru> mterry: I think I need to declare bankruptcy and start over, this is holding up a major rollout I need to do sooner rather than later.
[19:14] <mterry> robru: might be worth asking Mirv or someone about that convert-to-gles patch and if there are other -gles changes needed these days
[19:14] <mterry> robru: someone closer to the gles stuff might know about something we don't
[19:16] <robru> mterry: yeah that's a good idea. For now just to get things moving I'll try a different approach where I just verbatim copy the known-working current debian/control from the gles package and then leave the packaging-drift-cleanup to the toolkit people.
[19:21] <robru> mterry: thanks for you help!
[19:21] <mterry> robru: yeah sorry it wasn't a slam dunk
[19:21] <mterry> good luck
[19:22] <robru> thanks
[19:35] <tvoss|dinner> robru, the changes done in debia/control should be done in debian/control.in
[19:36] <tvoss|dinner> robru, and I actually think you don't need them
[19:38] <robru> tvoss|dinner: i just ran the script and committed the results, so it's updating control to match what's already in control.in
[19:40] <robru> tvoss|dinner: and you do need them because control should match what's in xenial, not vivid
[19:40] <tvoss|dinner> robru, ack
[19:42] <tvoss|dinner> robru, as long as the vivid package still installs with an soversion of 2, I'm mostly fine with your changes
[19:43] <robru> tvoss|dinner: yeah it should, but i didn't test it
[19:43] <robru> Will need a silo at some point to confirm


[16:27] <wxl> hey folks. ubiquity can't handle resizing when the existing partition is encrypted LVM, right? cuz i can't get it to give me the auto resize option.
[16:30] <xnox> wxl, correct.
[16:30] <wxl> xnox: danke :)
[16:31] <xnox> wxl, it can be done with pain by hand. or backup/reinstall/migrate.
[16:32] <wxl> xnox: yeah, i'm aware of that much. is there also some reason why it wouldn't offer the auto-resize option given a GPT table?
[16:42] <xnox> wxl, nobody coded to resize all layers; and it's also unpredictable how much one can resize encrypted lvm -> e.g. nobody knows how many extends can relocate and how much one can resize LVM.
[16:42] <wxl> xnox: the question about GPT was unrelated to the one about encrypted/LVM
[16:42] <xnox> wxl, both reuse and resize, are very hackish.
[16:43] <xnox> wxl, it does not care about partition table types, as far as i am aware. but multiple other conditions must be met for resize to be offered.
[16:44] <xnox> e.g. there should be resizable space calculated, and enough reclaimable space available for the new install, etc.
[16:44] <wxl> xnox: is this enough to figure out why it wasn't offered? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1663298/comments/17
[16:46] <xnox> wxl, no that is not enough
[16:46] <xnox> wxl, one should use $ ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[16:47] <wxl> xnox: okie dokie
[16:47] <xnox> after running the installer up to options were not offered as expected and then logs attached will be more complete logs (and include partman logs)
[16:47] <xnox> wxl, note we need logs from d-i and partman; and ubiquity is just a fancy python wrapper around d-i =)
[16:47] <wxl> right right
[16:47] <wxl> thanks for the help, xnox
[16:47] <xnox> wxl, gparted should be available on the livecd
[16:48] <xnox> just use gparted to resize the partition, and then installer should offer to install things into the empty space, voila problem solved.
[16:48] <xnox> and it is fully graphical.
[16:48] <wxl> xnox: right. workarounds abound, but i think average joe might expect it to Just Work™
[16:49] <xnox> wxl, as far as i recall we don't offer tripple boot. only dual boot.
[16:49] <xnox> and there is already windows & ubuntu
[16:49] <wxl> oh
[16:49] <wxl> interesting
[16:49] <xnox> the logic goes, one does not need two ubuntu's
[16:49] <xnox> and hence only reuse/reintsll the ubuntu install is offered.
[16:49] <xnox> or custom partitioning.
[16:50] <wxl> well i can install some ubuntu and then i'm provided the option to install along side
[16:50] <wxl> i'll try doing a triple install and see if that fails
[16:50] <wxl> should have thought of that myself
[16:51] <xnox> humans don't tripple boot; only geeks do.
[16:51] <xnox> and ubuntu is for humans =)
[16:51] <wxl> right :)


[01:10] <rww> I remember Lynoure! I think!
[01:11] <rww> I still don't think we need ubottu factoids for random non-Ubuntu events :<
[01:12] <rww> I don't think anyone ever is going to be "Software Freedom Day! What day is that! There's probably an ubottu factoid!" :<
[01:14] <LjL> you're right, but for the same reason, i can't see it hurting very much
[01:22] <Flannel> !scope
[01:23]  * h00k waves
[01:23] <LjL> hi
[01:54] <rww> so, how's that ubottu-eir integration going?
[03:00] <nhandler> rww: Last I heard, tsimpson is still working on it, but he had some issues that he was working to overcome.
[03:55] <Logan_> nickals should be kicked for spamming in #ubuntu
[03:55] <Logan_> oh, okay, rww is taking care of it, nvm
[06:01] <mneptok> when i was crazy, i thought you were great.
[06:38] <bazhang> not telling people how to do hackintosh is driving away new Ubuntu users, apparently
[06:40] <bazhang> nice editing of the facts in #freenode
[06:41] <rww> wait what. Not telling people how to install an OS that isn't Ubuntu drives away new Ubuntu users?
[06:41] <rww> I'll go put "Give out Windows CDs" on my LoCo's meeting agenda.
[06:41] <rww> bug 1 will be solved in no time!
[06:41] <bazhang> putting snow leopard on a usb stick using ubuntu tools
[06:41] <rww> thanks ubottu
[06:42] <rww> Startup Disk Thing only works for Ubuntu ISOs anyway, ne?
[06:42] <bazhang> well officially yes
[06:53] <pankaj_sharma> hi there
[06:53] <rww> hello
[06:53] <pankaj_sharma> is there any offtopic channel?
[06:53] <rww> pankaj_sharma: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:54] <pankaj_sharma> thanks
[07:48] <Corey> Droof is also trolling #debian, FYI.
[07:49] <rww> thanks
[07:49] <Corey> rww: No worries.
[07:49]  * Tm_T is keeping a close eye
[07:49] <rww> Tm_T: I'll let you take over, then. It's sleep time for me.
[07:50] <Tm_T> rww: sleep well (:
[07:50] <rww> 'nini
[08:14] <Fudge> hi can i report an abusive user from #ubuntu here
[08:15] <Tm_T> sure
[08:15] <Fudge> the user is droof
[08:15] <Fudge> just being a mouth and some bad language
[08:16] <Tm_T> ah, him, sorry, was occupied for a moment in elsewhere
[08:16] <Tm_T> sorted now
[08:16] <Tm_T> Fudge: thanks for notifying (:
[08:17] <Fudge> my pleausre, thank you for such a quick response
[08:21] <Tm_T> reasonable guidance in PM didn't help, meh
[08:48] <Tm_T> why I have a feeling that sri is there just to stir up
[09:10] <eamon_> Hi can I be unbanned from #ubuntu please?
[09:12] <Tm_T> eamon_: hi, one moment and I'll try to catch the logs
[09:12] <Tm_T> eamon_: ok, you're aware of why you are banned?
[09:13] <eamon_> Tm_T: It'll be under "eamon"
[09:13] <eamon_> yes
[09:13] <Tm_T> what was it?
[09:15] <eamon_> I called intel's drivers shitty compared to linux, then I said poop when ikonia told me that was not an appropriate way to describe them
[09:15] <eamon_> I called intel's drivers shitty compared to windows versions, then I said poop when ikonia told me that was not an appropriate way to describe them
[09:16] <Tm_T> eamon_: and you are aware that this kind of behaviour will not be tolerated?
[09:17] <eamon_> Yes
[09:17] <Tm_T> eamon_: have you read our channel guidelines?
[09:17] <eamon_> Actually, yes
[09:20] <Tm_T> eamon_: you will promise that you keep all bad language and ranting off the #ubuntu ?
[09:20] <eamon_> Certainly. I've learned my lesson.
[09:22] <Tm_T> eamon_: ok, I'll discuss this with Ikonia still, can you come back in 24 hours?
[09:22] <eamon_> ok
[09:22] <Tm_T> thanks
[09:22] <eamon_> thank you Tm_T
[09:24] <Tm_T> eamon_: ok, feel free to leave the channel and come back tomorrow (:
[09:40] <ikonia> hello linuxtech
[09:42] <linuxtech> hi
[09:42] <ikonia> how can we help you today ?
[09:43] <linuxtech> I was wondering how one might add a channel or two.  It sounds like they have a backlog at orc.freenode.net.
[09:44] <linuxtech> irc, not orc, I should go to bed...
[09:44] <ikonia> add a channel or two ? in what respect ?
[09:44] <linuxtech> I want to create a derivative.
[09:45] <ikonia> well thats not an #ubuntu name space channel, so if you ask in #freenode what their guidelines/policies are in line with what you want to do, I'm sure a staff member can help
[09:45] <linuxtech> derivative of Ubuntu, that is.
[09:46] <ikonia> the channel won't be part of the official #ubuntu name space though, so it's not really an ubuntu issue
[09:46] <ikonia> the guys in #freenode maybe able to help
[09:47] <linuxtech> I am sure they will, but like it said on their site they have a backlog and it could take a while.
[09:47] <linuxtech> Thanks.
[09:47] <ikonia> their policies are quite loose but it won't hurt to help
[09:47] <ikonia> s/help/check
[09:48] <linuxtech> OK Thanks and Good Night!
[09:48] <ikonia> night
[16:24]  * Pici tries to remember why dejan was banned
[16:24] <marienz> ah, you're paying attention :)
[16:25] <Pici> Sometimes ;)
[16:25] <LjL> most always
[16:25] <Pici> Well not enough to remember why he was banned.
[16:25] <Pici> (I have '#ubuntu' on highlight in #freenode)
[16:26] <LjL> Pici: anyway i don't really know why he was originally banned, but i do know he ban dodged and did other stuff quite maliciously thereafter...
[16:26] <LjL> when he came here he seemed just overenthusiastic and enter-happy, but i'm not sure that's all there is to it
[16:26] <Pici> LjL: Its not good when theres over a page of bans on the BT and the first is only from the beginning of March
[16:28] <marienz> keyUp was being not terribly coherent from that address on 2011-03-31
[16:29] <marienz> ahhh, *that* guy
[16:30] <marienz> he was complaining about getting banned from #httpd in #freenode earlier
[16:30] <marienz> I think he sometimes half-diagnoses problems, not necessarily correctly, and doesn't respond well to people trying to point out his assumptions are incorrect
[16:31] <IdleOne> it was his brother
[16:31] <IdleOne> don't any of you read the logs?
[16:32] <Pici> I see flooding, offering people $100 to fix his issues, calling all of us 'slaves', and instead of answering questions when people are trying to troubleshoot, he just repeats his own question again.
[16:32] <IdleOne> that sounds about right
[16:32] <IdleOne> and ban dodging
[16:32] <Pici> And I only checked dejan and keyup, not the rest of his aliases.
[16:36] <ikonia> ahhh dejan
[16:39] <Pici> ikonia: Yep.   I told him to come back in 48 hours, that would be tomorrow.
[16:44] <ikonia> waste of time liar
[16:44] <Pici> Yep.
[16:44] <IdleOne> I just report the news
[16:44] <IdleOne> don't shoot the messenger :)
[16:47] <LjL> are there volunteers (other than me) for coaching ryaxnb? where coaching basically means asking him to stop (and then waiting for his PM i guess) when you or an op feels he needs to stop. of course it needs to be people that he won't mind doing this, so i'll ask him later (i've already asked him yesterday to think of some people)
[16:49] <IdleOne> LjL: sure, I don't mind poking him when he needs it. If that is ok with him.
[17:38] <dejan_> can I ask question about ubuntu here as I am banned on #ubuntu
[17:39] <dejan_> how can I see what files and folders are shared?
[17:48] <LjL> i'm sorry but no, you can't
[17:48] <LjL> it is not this channel's purpose
[17:52] <dejan_> :S
[17:52] <dejan_> ok
[17:56] <Pici> Can someone else try with LarsTorben? I'm losing my patience.
[17:58] <jpds> What the hell.
[17:59] <Pici> jpds: eh?
[18:00] <jpds> Just grep'ed my IRC logs for him and he's basically been repeating the same thing over and over again.
[18:00] <jpds> Same thing yesterday.
[18:02] <IdleOne> he parted #ubuntu
[18:02] <jpds> Gut.
[18:04] <Pici> jpds: Actually, it looks like he has been asking that same thing since March 15th.
[18:05] <IdleOne> heh
[18:05] <IdleOne> talk about slow to decide
[18:05] <Technoviking> morning all
[18:05] <IdleOne> morning
[18:05] <tsimpson> \o
[18:06] <jpds> Pici: My logs didn't bring anything up from beyond April.
[18:06] <Technoviking> i think go ahead and ban ari-tczew from #ubuntu core channels, send to me or CC if he complains
[18:07] <Technoviking> I have asked twice to leave under his own accord
[18:08] <Technoviking> and told him he could contact the CC about the IRC ban.
[18:08] <tsimpson> I'll get on that then
[18:09] <tsimpson> I'll also send him a memo about it, just in case
[18:09] <Pici> This rescinds the prior decision to keep him unbanned?
[18:12] <Technoviking> Pici: who sent that?
[18:13] <Pici> Technoviking: After I saw the email from the CC, I asked popey who spoke to dholbach about whether we were to ban him from our IRC channels.  (Note, I'm no longer on the IRCC, just an interested party)
[18:14] <maco> Technoviking: and geser and i figured if he wants to idle, meh, but at first sign of trouble implement the bans
[18:14] <Technoviking> My suggestion is for someone from the IRCC to email the CC to get clarification
[18:14] <Pici> Probably a good idea.
[18:14] <maco> namespace bans arent really possible (other than going to every #ubuntu* channel and doing it manually)
[18:15] <IdleOne> not yet
[18:15] <tsimpson> maco: we were talking about only the core channels
[18:15] <maco> but the list of channels he tends to be in is pretty small, afaik... -motu, -devel, etc
[18:15] <maco> ah ok sorry, missed that bit
[18:15] <Pici> tsimpson: I didn't mean to step on toes there, just wanted to make sure that we were all on the same page.
[18:15] <Technoviking> I think different CC member see this different, I think you need to force us to come to a clear understanding
[18:15] <Technoviking> and I apoligize for that in advance
[18:15] <tsimpson> Pici: we're all confused :)
[18:16] <maco> (i did see him talk to geser in -motu. couldnt figure out *why* since hes not supposed to be doing development anymore either)
[18:16] <tsimpson> Technoviking: ok, no problem, I'll mail the CC and wait for a response
[18:16] <IdleOne> maco: he isn't allowed to contribute either?
[18:16] <jpds> trollers going to troll.
[18:16] <Technoviking> Pici: I think if we do something of this level in the community we near to be clear
[18:16] <maco> he's supposed to cease participation in the community
[18:17] <IdleOne> wow
[18:17] <maco> i would think the developer community is a sub-community of the ubuntu community
[18:17] <Technoviking> thanks all for keep us (the CC) honest:)
[18:19] <Technoviking> cheers, will get out of your hair
[18:19]  * maco re-reads the email the CC/DMB sent to ari
[18:22] <maco> the email we sent him does state that he'd be banned from irc
[18:26] <Technoviking> oy
[18:27] <maco> hi
[18:27] <maco> Technoviking: may i quote a paragraph from the email that was sent to ari?
[18:27] <Technoviking> sure
[18:27] <maco> the one about him ceasing participation. it DOES include a ban on irc
[18:27] <maco> The Community Council and Developer Membership Board have, together, decided to require you to cease all participation in the Ubuntu community. In the first instance, this will be implemented by a revocation of your Ubuntu membership, upload privileges and a ban from our IRC channels. This applies to all official Ubuntu community activities.
[18:28] <Technoviking> well I think go ahead and ban
[18:29] <maco> i think that clears things up
[18:29] <tsimpson> you know what, I'm going to just email anyway ;)
[18:30] <tsimpson> I consider it to be a little more official when it comes in via email
[18:30] <Technoviking> that is fine
[18:32] <Technoviking> I have to get to a meeting, ping me if you need anything
[20:23] <ryaxnb> hello
[20:23] <ryaxnb> so hows things
[20:23] <ryaxnb> i hear im unbanned
[20:23] <ryaxnb> LjL, hihi
[20:24] <Tm_T> K'day
[20:24] <ryaxnb> so what do we have to talk about before i rejoin?
[20:24] <ryaxnb> =)
[20:25] <LjL> ryaxnb: hi
[20:25] <Pici> I believe  that LjL wanted to speak to you.
[20:25] <ryaxnb> k hi LjL
[20:25] <ryaxnb> so what does ljl want to say
[20:25] <LjL> ryaxnb: i wanted to define the details of this, and also let the ops here who may not all be aware of our discussions know what's going on
[20:25] <ryaxnb> oh Pici i like you too :)
[20:25] <ryaxnb> LjL, sounds good,. im still not 100% clear myself
[20:26] <LjL> ryaxnb: the idea is basically this
[20:26] <LjL> ryaxnb: your ban has been removed, but the general sentiment is that you can be a bit annoying, but at the same time that you're doing it in quite good faith
[20:26] <ryaxnb> ok
[20:26] <ryaxnb> yes, thats true
[20:27] <ryaxnb> i believe in everything i say and all positions i take, and if i am passionate on irc about a position its because im passionate in real life
[20:27] <ryaxnb> of course, if passion is an issue, i can move it to other channels
[20:27] <ryaxnb> that may be a good ide
[20:27] <LjL> ryaxnb: so instead of arguing with ops, i want you to listen to and comply with "stop" instructions given by a bunch of people who are "approved" also by you.
[20:28] <ryaxnb> i gave you a bit of an idea of who i would be ok with on the list but honestly most anyone is ok
[20:28] <LjL> ryaxnb: of course that doesn't mean you must have no objections to stopping. but if you think a request to "stop" is unwarranted, you should comply *anyway* for the time being, and discuss it with the person in PM
[20:28] <ryaxnb> i like most people in #ubuntu-offtopic quite a bit
[20:28] <ryaxnb> thats fine with me
[20:29] <ryaxnb> i usually think, if people are getting frusturated, stopping is a good idea whether "warranted" or not, and someone asking me to stop indicates people are frusturated
[20:29] <LjL> ryaxnb: also i'd like to stress that you really should respect the literal guidelines with extra care now, because if you swear or drift into topics that are !o4o or such, i'm not sure whether anyone can stop action from being taken
[20:29] <ryaxnb> not just that person but if its on the list, presumably hes channeling other peoples feelinggs to
[20:29] <ryaxnb> LjL, ok
[20:30] <ryaxnb> LjL, i think !o4o is well i really dont drift very often anymore
[20:30] <ryaxnb> swearing i need to work on
[20:30] <LjL> ryaxnb: yes, i agree. would you prefer the requests to stop to be in PM (so it's not too public) or in private (so that it's, well, private, but at the same time other people in -ot may not realize you've agreed to stop)?
[20:30] <LjL> i'm personally fine with both solutions
[20:30] <ryaxnb> from my understanding, crap, poop, horsepoop, and suck are ok words
[20:30] <ryaxnb> is that wrong?
[20:31] <ryaxnb> but bitch, fword, sword, etc not ok
[20:31] <ryaxnb> LjL, both are fine
[20:32] <ryaxnb> pm is good
[20:32] <ryaxnb> if i think its neccessary people need to know ive agreed to stop, ill let everyone know with a quick message if thats alright
[20:32] <LjL> ryaxnb: well there isn't really a list of forbidden words, i always make the example of "fuck" being ok when you're talking about the programming language "brainfuck", *as long as* you aren't just doing it in order to say the word itself (like i'm doing now ;)
[20:32] <LjL> ryaxnb: yup that should work
[20:32] <ryaxnb> heh
[20:33] <ryaxnb> er, IF its neccesary
[20:33] <ryaxnb> i.e. in some cases
[20:33] <ryaxnb> :)
[20:33] <ryaxnb> also, who are these people
[20:33] <LjL> ryaxnb: in any case, better be cautious if you aren't sure
[20:33] <ryaxnb> do we have a final list yet?
[20:34] <ryaxnb> LjL, k
[20:34] <LjL> ryaxnb: one thing though. i cannot ask other ops, even the ones you haven't explicitly agreed about, to refrain from telling you to stop if you're breaking the guidelines. so you'd probably still do well to stop no matter who asks, if you don't want to face action (though that's up to you)
[20:34] <ryaxnb> and as for o4o i dont talk about piracy or anything anymore hardly.
[20:34] <LjL> ryaxnb: no not yet, i was eating and i didn't ask the ones you proposed yet
[20:34] <ryaxnb> of course.
[20:34] <ryaxnb> especially if the non-agreed people are ops
[20:35] <LjL> especially in that case, yes :)
[20:35] <ryaxnb> in which case it becomes obvious i should follow their advice
[20:35] <LjL> ryaxnb: in any case, i'll be around for a few hours now, so feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic while i ask around the various folks
[20:35] <ryaxnb> i forget if emulation is o4o.
[20:35] <ryaxnb> emulation is legal, so whats the stat on that?
[20:35] <LjL> ryaxnb: emulation is not o4o, talking about getting illegal ROMs is... though i've seen people complain about Hackintosh being talked about.
[20:36] <LjL> i'm afraid it does depend a bit on who you ask, for certain things.
[20:36] <ryaxnb> k, well using hackintosh is a grey area
[20:36] <tsimpson> emulation is fine, asking where to download illegal copies of games etc is not
[20:36] <ryaxnb> best not to talk about hackintosh in here
[20:36] <ryaxnb> since the drivers used are often illegally modified/cracked
[20:36] <ryaxnb> that can go somewhere else
[20:37] <LjL> ryaxnb: also, if you aren't sure whether it's ok to talk about something in the first place, feel free to ask me or any of those other people who are willing to do this (who we still have to define exactly)
[20:38] <LjL> ryaxnb: the idea is that they would readily accept PMs from you about these things
[20:38] <ryaxnb> k
[20:38] <ryaxnb> great
[20:38] <ryaxnb> ill be joining now if thats ok
[20:38] <LjL> sure
[20:38]  * LjL keeps fingers crossed
[21:12] <LjL> so about ryaxnb, i would like to ask ops as a personal favor if you could, instead of telling him to stop when he's being annoying, ping whoever among these people happens to be around: teadict, IdleOne, Flannel, tsimpson, LjL (one or two more might be added later, but they're not around for me to ask them now)
[21:12] <LjL> of course if none of them is around, or he's blatantly violating the guidelines, or you just don't feel like doing me a personal favor :P ignore this, not trying to impose anything on anybody
[21:12] <LjL> do you think i should mail the list about this?
[21:13] <IdleOne> no
[21:13] <IdleOne> this is an IRC thing
[21:13] <IdleOne> doesn't need to go on the ML imo
[21:14] <LjL> ok. i meant just to get everyone here who might not be looking at the channel right now on the same page
[21:14] <popey> /9/12
[21:14] <popey> bah!
[22:41] <genii-around> rww: That was my next move, trying to shuffle the petition-talk to -ot :)


[06:15] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:39] <jo-erlend> This bug is a little annoying: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-mirror/+bug/1825755
[08:39] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1825755 in apt-mirror (Ubuntu Groovy) "apt-mirror in all versions (including disco and last from github) doesn't mirror Commands-* files" [High, Triaged]
[12:08] <ogra> jess, uuuh, did rasengan actually win ?
[12:33] <mybalzitch> looks like it
[12:36] <ogra> 😞
[14:17]  * MIF I am going to irc.sturtz.cf port 6697 and I don't care if you kick me from you channel for this message, because I am leaving freenode and never coming back. I would leave if I were you
[15:11] <Ussat> So, will this channel be migrating also ?
[15:15] <leftyfb> I think that is still up for discussion
[15:15] <Ussat> Thats fair, I just hate to have to split stuff between clients etc
[15:16] <leftyfb> Ussat: your client doesn't support multiple networks?
[15:18] <Ussat> sure it does
[15:18] <Ussat> I just dont like having split windows etc
[15:18] <Ussat> thats all
[15:30] <teward> Ussat: if there's any move of the channels it will be the *entire* Ubuntu namespace.  That's a Community Council decision though.  you'll be notified if anything changes.
[15:30] <teward> ('you' being most people in the channels or such)
[15:33] <Ussat> Sure, was just asking :)
[15:39] <ogra> i think there is a CC meeting due anyway ...
[15:39] <ogra> so there should be some discussion (perhaps even decision) soon
[16:08] <teward> ogra: considering I'm on the CC I'd know if it's a discussion point ;)
[16:09] <teward> but as i said in many other places: patience is a virtue, we're not going to act insanely quickly to the point of irrational ;)
[16:10] <ogra> i know you are on the CC ... i'd expect some discussion though and some ideas about direction
[16:11] <ogra> but yeah, i'd also not expect any movement to happen immediately ... we're a giant ship with all the ubuntu channels
[16:23] <teward> and flavors ;)
[16:23] <teward> those're affected by any decision too
[17:12] <ogra> i kind of count them into "ubuntu channels" 🙂
[20:05] <evit> hello
[20:11] <evit> I run a few Wordpress sites and I'm getting a message saying that the PHP version I have is 'insecure' PHP (7.2.24-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>)
[20:11] <evit> Looks like there is an updated version 7.2.34 but I don't think the current version is vulnerable
[20:11] <evit> in 1804
[20:20] <evit> I wish it was standard on all LTS versions that you could get the official LATEST release of PHP instead of the older version
[20:21] <evit> I do know why this isn't so but one can dream
[20:24] <leftyfb> evit: there is no official php package version for ubuntu 18.04 beyond 7.2.24-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:25] <leftyfb> evit: if you'd like a more recent version, you can try a PPA, though not recommended. I have a feeling that wordpress is working fine for you, but just warning that your php version is a bit outdated
[20:26] <evit> @leftyfb, I see that but it is odd what is written here ~>https://www.php.net/archive/2020.php#2020-10-01-1
[20:27] <leftyfb> evit: LTS releases of ubuntu patch packages like php to fix security issues
[20:27] <evit> Wish there was an official 7.4 release for all LTS
[20:27] <evit> @leftyfb, Yes, I understand. I was just checking to see if I was missing something.
[20:28] <leftyfb> evit: Ubuntu 20.04 has php7.4
[20:28] <evit> Yes, I know but I need time to plan/execute on those migrations. Was gonna wait for next LTS
[20:29] <leftyfb> evit: the next LTS is 11 months away
[20:29] <evit> I have patience. =P
[20:30] <evit> In place upgrades never seem to be a good thing. Everything always breaks
[20:31] <evit> @leftyfb, you don't recommend ppa:ondrej/php PPA repository?
[20:34] <leftyfb> evit: it's not officially supported here. But it has been known to work
[20:50] <evit> @leftyfb, Thanks!
[22:10] <CodeMouse92> Official verdict just hit my inbox. We're moving to Libera. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001922.html
[22:13] <CodeMouse92> Correction, dyslexia pulled a fast one on me. It's not official yet ^^^
[22:52] <teward> CodeMouse92: yeah it's not IRCC decision, it's CC
[22:53] <CodeMouse92> I know that now. Like I said, I misread b/c of dyslecia.
[22:53] <CodeMouse92> *dyslexia


[00:34] <fazer> balloons, I was able to change the schemaVersion to 10 but its not compatible, it says that the current version is 9
[00:50] <knome> fazer, he will get your message when he gets back :)
[00:52] <xcub> kenvandine, I am getting an error message whenever I try to install "qtdeclarative5-bacon2d1.0:i386
[00:52] <xcub> inside my click-chroot
[01:09] <balloons> fazer, it won't work for you, but it's what is correct. Just swap it
[01:09] <balloons> Girish, victor needs to approve still
[01:10]  * balloons floats away again :-)
[01:24] <fazer> balloons, ok. I changed it and pushed. I also changed the file removal method that you wanted em to do.
[02:26] <smajevicirfan> flocculant, is there a way to get bug heat from the database for the qatracker or at least get the number of affected users?
[02:41] <tsimonq2> balloons: ohhhh got your pun there XD
[06:06] <MatthewAllen> balloons, I'm currently working on the setting up a development enviroment for the QATracker and after running the script and navigating to local host I encounter the following error "PDOException: SQLSTATE[08006] [7] fe_sendauth: no password supplied in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of /usr/share/drupal7/includes/lock.inc)." - any solutions?
[06:10] <Girish> ¡™£™¡When I'm trying to install Unity.webapps component I'm getting a 404 error. I'm able to add the PPA using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webapps/preview
[06:10] <Girish> But I'm getting the following error when I update:
[06:10] <Girish> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webapps/preview
[06:10] <Girish> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unityshell-webapps/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[06:10] <Girish> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unityshell-webapps/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[06:10] <Girish> Any reason why?
[07:07] <magi> Girish: I'm not an expert or what, but if you go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/unityshell-webapps/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ you'll see that there isn't a folder for 'Vivid (15.04)' that's probably what is causing the 404 errors
[07:40] <Girish> magi: So web apps are not supported in vivid or wily?
[07:52] <magi> Girish: probably, but I'm not for sure
[08:39] <Girish-phone> Girish-phone: That's weird considering I'm making web apps using the U SDK which is only supported 15.04+
[08:43] <MatthewAllen> balloons, I've submitted my setup task if you could check it out :-)
[11:43] <MatthewAllen> balloons, you able to check my task?
[11:44] <flocculant> MatthewAllen: have you submitted it via google? Whoever's on there as mentor(s) will get a mail - balloons is often not about at the weekend
[11:44] <MatthewAllen> flocculant, mmk he's the only mentor so I was wondering if he was around to accept it :)
[11:45] <flocculant> even if he was going to be around - it's a timezone thing too ;)
[11:53] <smajevicirfan> flocculant, is there a way to get bug heat from the database for the qatracker or at least get the number of affected users?
[12:58] <flocculant> smajevicirfan: I'm not sure tbh, I would expect so
[12:59] <flocculant> smajevicirfan: I see the task has only 2 days left - do you want me to extend it?
[13:03] <smajevicirfan> flocculant, please do, I had some family issues, but everything's fine now
[13:04] <flocculant> done - extended to the 28th
[13:21] <smajevicirfan> thank you very much
[13:22] <DanChapman> Afternoon all o/
[13:29] <flocculant> hey DanChapman
[13:45] <subins2000> When is didrocks going to come ?
[13:55] <mcinitreevan> Someone mine looking over https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6256780531204096/?sp-page=1 ? Ive been waiting on it awhile
[13:59] <subins2000> Hey
[14:00] <subins2000> Looks like my mentor @didrocks is not going to come online today and my task's deadline ends in 2 hours. Can someone please extend it to 3 days ?
[14:00] <flocculant> subins2000: if I can - link it
[14:00] <subins2000> https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5131342014578688/?sp-page=1
[14:01] <flocculant> subins2000: added 5 days
[14:01] <subins2000> Thank you so much :-)
[14:02] <flocculant> mcinitreevan: I can do that for you as well, no idea who Andrew is, but popey and balloons are likely weekend r/l
[14:02] <flocculant> can't review it unfortunately
[14:14] <mcinitreevan> aww :( Andrew is ahayzen but I havent seen him on here for over a day. Thanks for looking, at least
[14:20] <flocculant> mcinitreevan: yea I know who Andrew *is*, I just never had anything to do with him, anyway - deadline is tomorrow so I can extend if you want - best that I can do to help you
[14:21] <mcinitreevan> flocculant: Yeah, I gotcha, I already have it submitted so extending the deadline is kinda moot, thanks though :)
[16:48] <Rob1507> balloons, all done I think ^_^ I was able to install it from the store
[16:51] <Rob1507> I just want to ask, in the case of program using API, should the API be in the parts?
[17:45] <Rob1507> balloons, can you check my apps?
[17:52] <samsruti> Can you post the link Rob1507
[17:53] <Rob1507> I published them in the store. May names of them be enough?
[17:57] <Rob1507> So what to do?
[18:03] <samsruti> i am not sure about your task . So wait for balloons to come.
[18:03] <samsruti> All are busy here
[18:05] <Rob1507> Ok, I will wait
[20:22] <Girish> I'm trying to
[20:23] <Girish> I'm trying to set up a development environment for Ubuntu Packaging
[20:25] <Girish> I've installed the packaging software, created my gpg and ssh keys and set up pbuilder.
[20:26] <Girish> Now when I'm trying to trigger a build using  sbuild-launchpad-chroot using  sbuild --dist=trusty --arch=amd64 -c trusty-proposed+restricted-amd64-sbuild <dsc>
[20:26] <Girish> I'm etting the error: User girish is not currently a member of group sbuild, but is in the system group database
[20:27] <Girish> You need to log in again to gain sbuild group privileges
[20:30] <flocculant> Girish: and did you?
[20:30] <Girish> When I use sudo I'm getting: tail: cannot open '/home/girish/debian/changelog' for reading: No such file or directory
[20:30] <Girish> dpkg-parsechangelog: error: tail of /home/girish/debian/changelog gave error exit status 1
[20:30] <Girish> E: Could not parse /home/girish/debian/changelog:
[20:33] <Girish> btw, what does <dsc> means in  sbuild --dist=trusty --arch=amd64 -c trusty-proposed+restricted-amd64-sbuild <dsc>
[20:34] <Girish> It's giving me a syntax error
[20:34] <flocculant> not a clue - I don't have anything to do with that stuff :)
[20:37] <Girish> flocculant: Can you help me with installing some packages? I'm getting a 404 when I'm trying to install them after adding their PPA
[20:40] <flocculant> what ppa?  - what version ubuntu you using?
[20:40] <Girish> Vivid.
[20:41] <flocculant> link to ppa?
[20:41] <Girish> flocculant: WAs installing Unity Web apps preview ppa for running web app.
[20:42] <Girish> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unityshell-webapps/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:43] <Girish> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/webapps/preview/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:43] <Girish> I tried Unity shell web apps and webapps preview
[20:43] <Girish> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/webapps/preview/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:43] <flocculant> http://ppa.launchpad.net/webapps/preview/ubuntu/dists/ - you can see from that there is not a vivid ppa
[20:44] <Girish> yeah
[20:44] <Girish> So how do I run web apps in vivid?
[20:44] <Girish> I'm building them using the sdk
[20:44] <flocculant> I don't know - I don't do that stuff ...
[20:44] <Girish> Okay.
[20:44] <flocculant> wouldn't even know where to look
[21:13] <Girish> Thanks balloons!
[21:24] <Girish> flocculant: Could you review this task? https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/5880796325871616/
[21:26] <Girish> Also, balloons ^
[21:48] <Girish> https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/5880796325871616/
[21:56] <Girish> When I'm trying to run an app in the emulator from the SDK I'm getting the following error : :-1: warning: desktop:Exec:hello: found unexpected Exec with architecture 'all': ./qtc_device_debughelper.py
[21:56] <Girish> Where hello is the name of my application.
[21:56] <Girish> It's working fine with qmlscene.
[21:56] <Girish> 2nd line of error: :-1: error: security:policy_groups_safe:hello:debug: (REJECT) reserved policy group 'debug': not for production use
[23:54] <knome> balloons, other admins, https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/4514565299634176/ is ready to be published