[00:42] <Zaery> How do i download a build such as https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2127712
[00:42] <Zaery> ?
[00:54] <wgrant> Zaery: There are usually links to files in the "Built files" section, but we delete PPA packages a week after they are superseded.
[00:54] <wgrant> So old ones like that are no longer available.
[00:55] <Zaery> oh well, then i'm off to testing some newer versions
[00:55] <wgrant> It's unfortunate, but to keep them all forever would require a *lot* of disk space.
[00:55] <Zaery> yeah, i understand
[00:56] <jfi> Zaery: if you want the last build and stay uptodate, you can simply add the ppa
[00:58] <jfi> Zaery, "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa" will add the repository to your system, then you can get the packages with the software center
[02:04] <micahg> I have a build faillure w/out a build record on armel, do you need the logs for this or can I just retry?
[02:04] <wgrant> micahg: openjdk, or something less evil?
[02:05] <micahg> wgrant: xulrunner-1.9.2
[02:05] <wgrant> micahg: Do you have a link?
[02:05] <wgrant> openjdk took out a few builders last night.
[02:05] <micahg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9.2/<IP_ADDRESS>+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2/+buildjob/2299489
[02:06] <wgrant> micahg: Retry it.
[02:06] <micahg> wgrant: thanks
[02:06] <wgrant> Doesn't look like it should cause another builder massacre.
[02:06] <wgrant> And if it does, I can hopefully resolve it.
[02:07]  * micahg actually needs to upgrade a new version, but let's see if the rebuild works
[02:07] <micahg> *upload
[06:12] <foxbuntu> Any LP admins around to help me out with an issue?
[06:14] <wgrant> foxbuntu: No admins around during the weekend.
[06:14] <wgrant> What's the issue?
[06:14] <wgrant> I have limited superpowers.
[06:15] <foxbuntu> wgrant, well I had some malware on a p.o.s. winbloz machine I fixed as a favor take control of one of my google accounts a break some things and DaveMorris suspended my LP account to prevent it spamming
[06:16] <foxbuntu> just wondering if I can get it unlocked now that I have the security issues resolved
[06:16] <wgrant> Ah, yes, I heard about that.
[06:16] <wgrant> I can suspend accounts, but not unsuspend them. You'll need to ask back here on Monday, or email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:16] <foxbuntu> yeah...very ugly stuff
[06:16] <wgrant> Glad to hear you got it resolved, though.
[06:17] <foxbuntu> yeah...teach me to help others with their junk PCs...
[06:17] <foxbuntu> ;)
[06:17] <foxbuntu> Thanks wgrant, I will get in contact with someone post weekend
[08:09] <trijntje> Hi all, is there a way to review suggestions done in launchpad offline? For example to get them commented out in a .po file?
[08:10] <trijntje> oops, wrong channel, ill add some background
[08:11] <trijntje> I'm a translator for Ubuntu and I would really like to be able to review suggestions done in launchpad offline, is there a way to do this?
[09:55] <ikt> heya, can anyone tell me why it's importing my code and saying that a team that I'm in is the one changing the code?
[09:55] <ikt> https://code.launchpad.net/~ikt/ium/trunk
[10:00] <jml> ikt: email address matching
[10:01] <jml> ikt: the email address used in the commit is the email address of that team.
[10:01] <ikt> yeah I thought so
[10:01] <ikt> I changed it
[10:01] <ikt> to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:01] <ikt> from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:02] <ikt> it hasn't updated :s
[10:02] <jml> ikt: I don't think it will.
[10:02] <jml> ikt: it makes the links on-import
[10:02] <jml> ikt: future commits will be different, though.
[10:03] <ikt> yeah I changed the email address, then uploaded a file, imported it, and it still thinks it's the same :s
[10:03] <ikt> delete branch and try again?
[10:03] <jml> ikt: sure. why not?
[10:08] <ikt> jml, nope still says it :/
[10:15] <wgrant> jml: revisionauthor :(
[10:15] <jml> wgrant: it caches?
[10:17] <wgrant> jml: As they are imported, the revision's author field is parsed and it's linked to a RevisionAuthor. Each RevisionAuthor is linked to a Person as one with a matching email address is seen.
[10:17] <wgrant> I don't believe there's any facility to change existing ones when an address moves or is delted.
[10:28] <ikt> I don't understand why it linked it in the first place
[10:29] <ikt> my name is the same on github as it is on lp, and I'm the one who setup the link and the series
[10:34] <wgrant> ikt: It uses the email address that you committed with.
[10:36] <ikt> gah :(
[10:37] <wgrant> Hm? That's what it should do.
[10:38] <wgrant> But it should also know to remove the cached link when you remove the email address from a team.
[10:46] <ikt> wgrant, indeed, going to open a bug
[10:47] <ikt> what does it say if the email address that it is committed with isn't on lp?
[10:47] <wgrant> ikt: It displays the name, without a link.
[11:01] <wgrant> jml: Still around?
[11:05] <jml> wgrant: yeah
[11:05] <jml> wgrant: what's up?
[11:06] <wgrant> jml: Any chance you could time a query on staging for me?
[11:06] <jml> wgrant: yeah sure.
[11:06] <jml> wgrant: EXPLAIN ANALYZE?
[11:06] <wgrant> EXPLAIN ANALYZE SELECT COUNT(revisionauthor) FROM revisionauthor LEFT JOIN emailaddress ON emailaddress.email = revisionauthor.email WHERE revisionauthor.person != emailaddress.person;
[11:06] <jml> got it.
[11:06] <jml> wgrant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/576399/
[11:07]  * jml makes a note to set up a pipe-driven staging db convenience thingummy
[11:11] <wgrant> jml: Thanks.
[11:11] <wgrant> That's quick enough to run in garbo, so this is an easy fix!
[11:16] <wgrant> Evening lifeless.
[11:17] <lifeless> hiya
[15:47] <aroman> how long does it take for users to get upgrades visible when changing a package in a PPA?
[15:52] <hangfire> Launchpad slow for anyone else?
[16:03] <DaneAU> hangfire, definitely is for me
[16:19] <aroman> Please try againSorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[16:36] <hangfire> Well, got through eventually :)
[17:36] <ti4mi> hello,
[17:36] <ti4mi> how can I have two versions of the same package in my PPA?
[17:36] <ti4mi> I would like to have a stable and a development package...
[18:56] <jelmer> ti4mi: You can't have two versions of the same package in a PPA - create two PPA's
[19:05] <magcius> where's the bug for slow rendering on firefox+nvidia?
[19:45] <arand> What are the p-series and o-series I see in the "copy packages" for PPAs?
[19:50] <jelmer> arand: it's a bug they're showing up there
[19:50] <arand> Ah, right :)
[19:50] <jelmer> arand, you can't actually copy to those series yet. The names o-series and p-series are used because the codenames for Ubuntu O and Ubuntu P haven't been decided yet
[19:50] <jelmer> we have already created those distro releases for ubuntu so bugs can be targetted to them
[20:16] <dotwaffle> something up with launchpad right now? (nothing in the topic, i notice)
[20:18] <lifeless> no
[20:18] <lifeless> bah
[20:22] <Ampelbein> lp seems a bit slow, that is all.
[20:23] <lifeless> any page in particular ?
[20:24] <Ampelbein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-plugins-main for example
[20:24] <Ampelbein> it has only 2 open bugs but takes a good 10 seconds (maybe more) to load
[20:25] <lifeless> rendered for me in 1.06 seconds
[20:25] <lifeless> checking latency now
[20:25] <lifeless> 1.4 seconds to transmit - so we've got some in-dc queueing
[20:26] <lifeless> (total of 1.4 seconds I mean)
[20:26] <lifeless> Ampelbein: this is probably the overload we're already aware of; I'm working on further config changes to handle this now
[20:27] <Ampelbein> lifeless: ok, i just tested with wget: http://paste.ubuntu.com/576614/ 43 seconds
[20:28] <Ampelbein> most of the time spent at Waiting for Response
[20:28] <lifeless> Ampelbein: are you logged into launhcpad ?
[20:29] <Ampelbein> lifeless: yes
[20:29] <lifeless> so, I see the massive latency with wget
[20:29] <lifeless> not with chromium
[20:30] <lifeless> and its fast in wget now
[20:31] <Ampelbein> lifeless: yes, now its 0.275 seconds ;-)
[20:31] <lifeless> adding no-cache -> slow
[20:32] <Ampelbein> lifeless: wasn't the rendering time reported on the page when there still was edge.lp?
[20:33] <lifeless> Ampelbein: the render time is in the body of the page
[20:33] <lifeless> Ampelbein: developers that are logged in get it in the top right of the page near their username link
[20:35] <Ampelbein> lifeless: as a non-developer I have to look at the soure: 'At least 91 queries/external actions issued in 1.73 seconds'
[20:47] <lifeless> Ampelbein: yes
[20:48] <lifeless> Ampelbein: eventually we may let non devs turn this on voluntarily, but its a bit geeky to have the in main UI for everyone
[20:48] <lifeless> Ampelbein: this is roughly what I see - http://people.ubuntu.com/~lifeless/showtime.png
[20:48] <lifeless> (thats an older font/style - but sample place)
[20:48] <Ampelbein> lifeless: I can understand that. If I really wanted I could make a greasemonkey script to add the info.
[20:49] <Ampelbein> but for a non-developer it's mostly unimportant information
[21:42] <lvh> Hello!
[21:43] <lvh> I have a problem :-(
[21:43] <lvh> People want me to use Github.
[21:43] <lvh> This is most unfortunate.
[21:43] <lifeless> hi
[21:43] <lvh> But I have found a potential solution, and it seems quite obvious so perhaps someone else has tried something similar already.
[21:43] <lifeless> is this for your project, or their project?
[21:44] <lvh> lifeless: Mine.
[21:44] <lifeless> its not really up to them then is it ? :)
[21:44] <lvh> First of all, trunk commits (lp:someproject) get mirrored to Github. People contribute code preferably on Github in the form of pull requests.
[21:44] <lvh> lifeless: Well there's two problems there.
[21:44] <lvh> lifeless: 1) I have about 6 to 12 months to live so bus numbers are nice things to have high values for.
[21:44] <lifeless> lvh: oh :(
[21:44] <lvh> lifeless: 2) A recent discussion on Convore has shown that some people really really really dislike Launchpad.
[21:45] <lvh> Up to the point that they will quite happily ignore a project that does what they want.
[21:45] <lvh> Because it's not on Github.
[21:45] <lifeless> lvh: I'm curious what things they really dislike about LP
[21:45] <lvh> Now, of course, that's stupid, because Github doesn't have a workable issue tracker.
[21:45] <lvh> lifeless: I keep hearing the same things and I am compiling them into a blog post.
[21:45] <lvh> It's mostly UI.
[21:46] <lvh> And people disliking loggerhead.
[21:46] <lifeless> I'm glad you're writing it up.
[21:47] <lifeless> we're (obviously) working on improving things
[21:47] <lvh> So anyway, the idea is that I use Github's API to detect pull requests, and then I create a branch on lp from trunk plus that diff
[21:47] <lvh> And initiate a merge proposal.
[21:47] <lifeless> sounds nice
[21:48] <lvh> I know, right!
[21:48] <lvh> the best part is that the github users don't bother me
[21:48] <lvh> Something on which I've also ranted
[21:48] <lvh> I'm sick and tired of people who have only ever used git their entire life telling me how much everything that isn't git sucks
[21:48] <lifeless> hmm, I've done everything I planned to do today and its only 11am :(
[21:49] <lvh> (also because most of the time I know a git a helluva lot better than them)
[21:49] <lifeless> lvh: amen
[21:49] <lvh> lifeless: Clearly you need a better issue tracker!
[21:49] <lvh> lifeless: I met pivot tracker today
[21:49] <lvh> I could see it working for small teams working consistently on a project
[21:49] <aroman> why did my package that builds perfectly on lucid, fail to build when I changed it to maverick in debian/control? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65759906/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.elementary-wallpapers_0.2.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[21:49] <lvh> Open source typically has more contributors and more randomness in contribution patterns though
[21:49] <lifeless> lvh: interesting
[21:50] <lifeless> aroman: Found files in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages (must be in dist-packages for python2.6).
[21:50] <lifeless> debian/elementary-wallpapers/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages
[21:50] <lifeless> aroman: from that log
[21:50] <lifeless> debian/elementary-wallpapers/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/elementary_wallpapers-0.2.1-py2.6.egg-info
[21:50] <aroman> lifeless: what exactly does that mean?
[21:51] <lvh> lifeless: http://b.lvh.cc/why-do-people-hate-launchpad-so-much
[21:51] <lifeless> aroman: just what it says
[21:51] <lvh> lifeless: If you want I'll ping you when I finish the followup article.
[21:51] <lifeless> lvh: I'd love that
[21:51] <aroman> lifeless: :/ what should I do to rectify the situation?
[21:52] <lifeless> aroman: change your package to install into the dist-packages dir not site-packages
[21:52] <lifeless> aroman: how you do that will depend on how you're doing the packaging
[21:52] <aroman> hmm okay
[21:52] <lvh> lifeless: Unfortunately not all feedback is useful
[21:52] <aroman> lifeless: why would that change lucid>maverick, do you think?
[21:52] <lvh> lifeless: It's mostly like RAAAARRR THEIR UI IS FREAKIN' TERRIBLE
[21:53] <lifeless> aroman: python 2.5 -> 2.6
[21:53] <lvh> without any mention of what it does poorly in particular
[21:57] <lifeless> lvh: http://b.lvh.cc/designing-a-continuous-deployment-system-caut is interesting, nicely put
[21:57] <lvh> lifeless: I'm talking about it at Pycon.
[21:57] <lvh> lifeless: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/349175/
[21:58] <lvh> lifeless: chatham house rule applies etc
[21:58] <lifeless> lvh: we have safeguards that don't transition a server if it doesn't come up properly - so we may wedge during the deploy, but we don't generally end up totally down
[21:58] <lvh> lifeless: Interesting
[21:59] <lvh> lifeless: I've seen many tricks to implement those
[21:59] <lvh> They're mostly app-speciifc and I'm hoping to come up with useful generalizations for them
[21:59] <lvh> lifeless: In that paste the first two paragraphs are useful but the last one doesn't add anything
[22:00] <lvh> It's just "I had a really bad experience with LP" but no details what where when etc so no ide awhat actually happened and how we could fix it
[22:00] <lifeless> lvh: thats a great paste; I'd like to show this stuff to our product team
[22:00] <aroman> lifeless: fascinatingly, the maverick version of the package that one that failed to build was based off of (ubuntu-wallpapers) has absolutely no changes that might change what you described in it's debian folder
[22:01] <aroman> so i really dont know what else could be different
[22:01] <lifeless> aroman: different dependencies / setup.py invocation ?
[22:01] <lvh> lifeless: Sure, go ahead
[22:01] <lvh> lifeless: I made it clear chatham house rule applied to anything sent to me in this context
[22:02] <aroman> lifeless: nope, absolutely no difference that would cause a change
[22:02] <lifeless> lvh: cool, thanks
[22:15] <lvh> lifeless: Also a very common complaint: Nobody can figure out how to (easily) access code. "View branch content" ought to be called "View code", or something.
[22:16] <lvh> Apparently it's only active lp users that have figured it out once that figure *that* out
[22:16] <lvh> people prefer Github's approach of shoving code in your face
[22:16] <lvh> (also people don't particularly like loggerhead so perhaps the the two things could be put together)
[22:17] <lifeless> yeah
[22:18] <lifeless> we need to make loggerhead more deeply integrated
[22:22] <lvh> I'm starting with features that sound like easy fixes
[22:22] <lvh> Like "remove this button it is pointless" or "move this box to this page"
[22:23] <lvh> fixing loggerhead is obviously a requirement since github's browser is more than a bit nicer but that's many orders of magntiude more of an investment than moving a box
[22:29] <lifeless> yeah
[22:29] <lifeless> you've read about our new team structure?
[22:30] <lvh> I haven't
[22:31] <lifeless> http://blog.launchpad.net/general/changing-how-we-track-launchpads-bugs-questions-and-blueprints and http://blog.launchpad.net/general/announcing-launchpad-squads
[22:36] <lvh> lifeless: Oh, a point on loggerhead that I actually completely agree with
[22:37] <lvh> Apart from the fact that I don't use Loggerhead so I don't care
[22:37] <lvh> The date format is hard to parse. Github and Bitbucket use relative, human-readable timedeltas, except for dates sufficiently far away (where they use a plain date). You could still make the real date accessable on mouseover if people wnat that feature.
[22:37] <lifeless> that should be fairly easy to do - just file a bug
[22:38] <lvh> Right, there's some bugs people linked me to too
[23:34] <lvh> lifeless: Your interest made me get off my lazy bum backside and do things
[23:34] <lvh> lifeless: http://b.lvh.cc/a-compiled-list-of-launchpads-perceived-flaws
[23:37] <lifeless> cool!
[23:49] <lifeless> lvh: we're going to fold bugs and blueprints together
[23:49] <lifeless> lvh: a more capable bugtracker and no separate spec tracker - https://dev.launchpad.net/IssueTracker


[00:29] <emgent> hrllo
[02:38]  * NCommander twichs half-dead on the floor
[02:52] <NCommander> Hobbsee, ScottK ping
[02:54] <emgent> hello NCommander :)
[02:54] <NCommander> hola emgent
[02:54]  * NCommander twichs slightly on the ground
[02:54] <ScottK> Pong
[02:54] <NCommander> funerals suck
[02:54] <NCommander> ScottK, Did that fix for armel work?
[02:54] <ScottK> That they do.
[02:54] <ScottK> Dunno.
[02:54] <NCommander> d'oh
[02:55] <ScottK> I've actually just finished checking out the pkg-kde svn so I can shove the change in there.
[02:56] <NCommander> I'm honestly not sure if it will really fix it, but its my best bet
[02:57] <ScottK> OK.
[02:57] <nxvl> emgent: now you have time?
[02:58] <ScottK> nxvl: Listen to KiBi and just wait for the package to migrate from Unstable.
[02:58] <nxvl> ScottK: yes i was asking since i don't know the procedure for it, i thought it was that way but i wanted to make sure about it
[02:59] <ScottK> OK.
[02:59] <emgent> nxvl: sure
[03:03]  * NCommander wonders if he can muster another FTBFS fix
[03:04] <nxvl> NCommander: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/
[03:04] <NCommander> sweet, I'm bringing the packages failed number down slowly ;-)
[03:06] <NCommander> Anyone know what causes failure: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory
[03:06] <NCommander> ^dpkg-genchanges
[03:07] <RAOF> Failure to call the right dh_* first?
[03:08] <NCommander> That's what I'm thinking
[03:08] <NCommander> I'm seeing if I can tackle the logwatch FTBFS
[03:09] <NCommander> any idea what dh generates the files lists
[03:12] <RAOF> Not off the top of my head.
[03:12] <NCommander> it builds final locally
[03:12] <NCommander> *fine
[03:12] <NCommander> Need to see if it fails in pbuilder
[03:13] <NCommander> RAOF, you got an sbuild setup chroot jail, right?
[03:13] <RAOF> Yes.
[03:13] <NCommander> can you run logwatch
[03:13] <NCommander> If it passes that, I'll file a bug report for it to be given back
[03:19] <RAOF> NCommander: Yeah, builds fine.  It probably just needs a give-back.
[03:19] <NCommander> Bug filed
[03:20] <RAOF> I think the normal proceedure for give-backs is to pester an admin in #ubuntu-devel.  I suppose a bug works too ;).
[03:21] <NCommander> oh
[03:21] <emgent> heya imbrandon
[03:22] <NCommander> Speaking of FTBFS, how do you resolve all these packages that are FTBFS in main since they have build-deps in universe?
[03:23]  * ScottK hands NCommander https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess
[03:24] <NCommander> SO the short answer is the package needs to be movemain?d to
[03:24] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:24] <ScottK> That or you strip the package of enough functionality not to need the build-dep anymore.
[03:25] <NCommander> ew
[03:25]  * ScottK had to split amavisd-new into two packages in Hardy because libmilter/libmilter-dev wasn't in Main.
[03:25] <NCommander> I can probably split pbuilder
[03:25] <ScottK> For pbuilder, promotion is the right answer.  nxvl was working on it earlier today.
[03:25] <NCommander> TBH, I'm suprised its in main
[03:26] <NCommander> kdepim is not happy
[03:27] <ScottK> NCommander: Are you a KDE user?
[03:27] <NCommander> half of the time ;-)
[03:27] <NCommander> I usually flip-flop between Kubuntu and Ubuntu every reinstall
[03:28] <NCommander> I can install Kubuntu in a chroot jail and hack on it if needed
[03:28] <NCommander> (or just reinstall Ubuntu)
[03:28] <ScottK> I see.
[03:28] <ScottK> Kubuntu for Intrepid will be 'fun'.
[03:29] <NCommander> should I ask?
[03:29] <ScottK> It's all KDE4 based as much a possible and maybe a little more.
[03:29] <NCommander> Ow
[03:29] <NCommander> Ow
[03:29] <NCommander> ow
[03:29] <ScottK> a/as
[03:29] <imbrandon> heya emgent
[03:29] <NCommander> KDE4 went into Debian?
[03:29] <ScottK> In experimental.
[03:30] <NCommander> Any reason we're going with KDE4, its kinda unpolished ...
[03:31] <imbrandon> because its the future :)
[03:31] <nxvl> wow
[03:31] <NCommander> So it vista
[03:31] <nxvl> a dead man has resurect!
[03:31] <NCommander> Doesn't mean its good
[03:31]  * nxvl HUGS imbrandon
[03:31] <imbrandon> heya nxvl
[03:31] <nxvl> imbrandon: how are you?
[03:32] <imbrandon> NCommander, no vista is not the future, no foreseeable anyhow
[03:32] <imbrandon> i dident say "new shiney" i said "future"
[03:32] <NCommander> so I take it KDE4 packages need to be synced, patched, and then merged into Ubuntu, and then kubuntu-desktop needs to be updated to have all the correct packages, right?
[03:32] <NCommander> (and the installer scripts will have to be tweaked to get the right packages on the CD, although just by making kubuntu-desktop working should fix that)
[03:33] <NCommander> ScottK, am I in the right ballpark ;-)
[03:36] <NCommander> It seems that the KDE4 packages already made the move according to the wiki
[03:37] <RAOF> Right.  Kde4 is installable (if horribly dual-head broken) right now.
[03:37] <imbrandon> NCommander, yea some of the legwork has been done
[03:37] <NCommander> Where can I see what needs to be vs. what has been done?
[03:37] <imbrandon> NCommander, #kubuntu-devel would probably get you a bit more specifics on exactly what has/hasent been accomplished yet
[05:45] <NCommander> RAOF, ping
[05:47] <RAOF> NCommander: Pong
[05:47] <NCommander> RAOF, up for sponsoring a package?
[05:47] <RAOF> But a pong without easy upload access, so be warned.
[05:48] <NCommander> wait what?
[05:48] <NCommander> Wait
[05:48] <NCommander> WTF
[05:48] <NCommander> O_O;
[05:48] <NCommander> I just got an email on my DD application
[05:48] <imbrandon> :)
[05:48] <RAOF> Oooh.  Score!
[05:48] <NCommander> The FrontDesk approved it, and is now assigning an AM for the final part
[05:48] <NCommander> WTF
[05:48] <imbrandon> grats
[05:48] <NCommander> m68k/hurd porter - ok
[05:48] <NCommander> O_o;
[05:49] <NCommander> I haven't submitted a hurd patch in a few months
[05:50] <NCommander> wow ...
[05:50] <NCommander> I might actually become a DD ...
[05:50]  * NCommander faints
[05:50] <RAOF> Dear lord.  Surely not!
[05:51] <NCommander> so uh ... yeah
[05:51] <NCommander> O_O;
[05:52] <NCommander> I thought I'd get MOTU way before my DD application actually moved
[05:52] <NCommander> anyway
[05:52] <NCommander> Anyone want to sponsor a FTBFS fix for licq?
[06:17]  * NCommander pokes ScottK
[06:21] <NCommander> bedtime
[07:22] <cody-somerville> Hi Sherman. :)
[07:22] <eboyjr> Let's say I made an applet, and I want it included in the next release of Ubuntu. What do I do?
[07:25] <cody-somerville> Hi eboyjr
[07:25] <eboyjr> Hi
[07:26] <cody-somerville> You can find information on how to get new packages into Ubuntu at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[07:26] <eboyjr> Thank you for the link. :)
[07:27] <cody-somerville> No problem. :)
[07:47] <slytherin> Has anyone seen blueyed in last few days?
[07:49] <jpds> !newpackage is <reply> To get a package into Ubuntu, please file a bug in Launchpad and make sure it has the tag needs-packaging. For full details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[07:50] <jpds> !newpackage
[07:50] <jpds> cody-somerville: Hmm
[07:50] <cody-somerville> I meant to type newpackages
[07:50] <cody-somerville> But it appears we already have a factoid for that, newpackage
[07:51] <cody-somerville> !newpackages is <alias> newpackage
[07:51] <jpds> !newpackages is <alias>newpackage
[07:52] <cody-somerville> !todo-#ubuntu-motu is <reply> Looking for something todo? Look no further! Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO for a quick list of suggestions.
[07:53]  * jpds checks.
[07:53] <jpds> !todo
[07:54] <jpds> cody-somerville: Does it really have to be -#ubuntu-motu? :)
[07:54] <cody-somerville> No. I just thought other channels might want their own todo
[07:55] <jpds> cody-somerville: Added.
[07:55] <cody-somerville> Thanks jpds :)
[07:56]  * cody-somerville wonders what other useful factoids we could add.
[08:00] <jpds> cody-somerville: If you need anything added, just poke me.
[08:00] <cody-somerville> jpds, thanks.
[08:13] <slytherin> Has anyone seen blueyed in last few days?
[08:15] <jpds> slytherin: /msg NickServ info blueyed
[08:15] <jpds> 3 days ago.
[10:09] <Festor> ScottK, about amule
[10:09] <Festor> they publish a rc version 2.2.2 this week and next will attempt to publish the final version
[10:21] <NielsE> the GDC dependency-package in Intrepid depends on gdc-4.2 (<< 0.25-4.2.2-7), however this version does not exist in the Intrepid-repo, should I let it depend on the version in the repo and then submit?
[10:48] <foolano> can anyone give me some hints on how to upload kernels to PPA? I created the binary package using the custom
[10:48] <foolano> i mean the binary-custom.d directory and the package builds and works ok
[10:49] <foolano> but i really dont know how to proceed to create the source package to upload it.
[12:54] <ScottK> Festor: OK.  Once it's in Intrepid, let me know and we can work on the backport.
[12:55] <Festor> backport?
[12:55] <Festor> then no sru?
[12:56] <ScottK> Right.  SRU.  Sorry.
[12:56]  * ScottK just woke up.
[12:56] <Festor> :D
[13:01] <emgent_> moin
[13:09] <pochu> hi folks
[13:11] <slytherin> [OT], is there a way to know from command line how much memory my MoBo supports?
[13:12] <cody-somerville> Hiya pochu
[13:12] <pochu> hey cody
[13:13] <jpds> slytherin: "lshw"?
[13:15] <emgent> heya pochu :)
[13:16] <pochu> hi emgent
[13:35] <AnAnt> Hello, why wasn't gnash  synch'ed from Debian ?
[13:37] <null_vector> morning
[13:40] <emgent> \sh: ping
[13:41] <\sh> emgent: busy pong
[13:42] <emgent> \sh: what moin version you use for leonov.tv?
[13:42] <\sh> emgent: the version of hardy
[13:43] <\sh> emgent: don't tell me it's vulnerable ,-)
[13:43] <emgent> \sh: ok nice, it`snt vuln.
[13:43] <emgent> \sh: only intrepid fixed yesterday.
[13:43] <\sh> emgent: intrepid uses the new moin 1.6?
[13:43] <emgent> \sh: http://www.moinmo.in/SecurityFixes
[13:44] <emgent> \sh: 1.7
[13:44] <\sh> emgent:  hmmm...The bugs listed above for 1.5.8 are fixed in 1.5.9. ,-) in hardy it's 1.5.8...
[13:46] <emgent> \sh: yeah but fixed. see changelog :)
[13:47] <emgent> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/m/moin/moin_1.5.8-5.1ubuntu2/changelog
[13:50] <\sh> emgent: yepp...
[13:50] <\sh> but it looks like that I have to upgrade to 1.7. in general :)
[13:56] <emgent> \sh: :)
[13:56] <emgent> moin persia
[14:11] <AnAnt_> Hello, won't gnash be synch'ed or merged from Debian ?
[14:12] <AnAnt_> and can someone review my swt-gtk upload on REVU ?
[14:12] <ScottK> Not unless someone asks for it.
[14:53] <sistpoty|work> hi folks
[14:55] <ScottK> Hello sistpoty|work.
[14:55] <sistpoty|work> hi ScottK
[15:06] <nxvl> jcastro: around?
[15:07] <bddebian> Heya gang
[15:09] <calc> directhex: ping
[15:10] <calc> directhex: i was wondering if you could merge current mono? :)
[15:10]  * calc needs it for OOo
[15:10] <AnAnt_> ok, can someone review my swt-gtk upload on REVU ?
[15:11]  * calc grabs the merge to see what it looks like
[15:11] <ScottK> AnAnt_: Generally providing the URL on REVU is a good idea and asking once an hour is really to much.
[15:11] <ScottK> calc: Does this mean mono is going to be required for OOo?
[15:12] <calc> ScottK: its been needed to build for a while now (maybe 1.x?)
[15:12] <calc> ScottK: it needs a newer one due to a bug fix in mono that caused problems on amd64
[15:12] <AnAnt_> ok, can someone review my swt-gtk upload on  http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=swt-gtk  ?
[15:12] <ScottK> calc: OK.  Just to build, not to run ...
[15:12] <calc> ScottK: it has mono bindings for some bits
[15:13] <ScottK> Not installed by default (Says the KDE user)?
[15:13] <calc> not afaik, at least not currently anyway
[15:15] <calc> hmm probably would be better for me to leave mono to directhex or slomo
[15:16] <calc> slomo__: ping
[15:16] <jcastro> nxvl: yep!
[15:16] <calc> since it seems to have several patches
[15:17]  * calc thinks other mono users might yell if he breaks it for them
[15:18] <calc> i'll build it locally and do my OOo build with that
[15:18] <calc> then bug someone to do a proper merge
[15:22] <nxvl> jcastro: i have the spanish version of the getting started video ready and uploading
[15:22] <nxvl> jcastro: should wait for daniel or you can deal with it?
[15:24] <jcastro> nxvl: let me ask!
[15:24] <jcastro> sounds awesome
[15:24] <jcastro> do you have upload rights etc. to the site?
[15:25] <nxvl> nop
[15:26] <nxvl> i'm uploading it to my hosting
[15:28] <jcastro> nxvl: can you mail jono with the url and he'll upload it?
[15:28] <nxvl> jcastro: yes i can
[15:28] <jcastro> totally awesome, great work!
[15:35] <warp10> Heya all
[15:37] <emgent> hi warp10
[15:37] <warp10> hi emgent
[15:43] <geser> Hi bddebian
[15:43] <bddebian> Heya geser
[15:43] <geser> Hi nxvl, how is the MIR for dvipdfmx going?
[15:44] <slomo__> calc: talk to directhex please
[15:48] <calc> ok
[15:48] <emgent> heya calc  :)
[15:49] <calc> emgent: hi
[16:23] <hefe_bia> ScottK: Hi, I'm still looking at bug 114565. Would it be right to setup hal rules instead of udev rules? And if yes, in what package should they go?
[16:25] <ScottK> hefe_bia: Wrong Scott.
[16:25] <ScottK> You wany keybuck on IRC.
[16:25] <ScottK> wany/want
[16:25] <StevenK> Keybuk
[16:25] <StevenK> No C
[16:26] <ScottK> Yeah.  What he said.
[16:26] <hefe_bia> ScottK: oh, sorry ;) Should have known
[16:26] <hefe_bia> thanks
[16:35] <slytherin> jpds: Sorry, I was away for too long time. lshw tells me how much memory I have currently, but not how much max I can have.
[16:39] <sebner> huihu persia
[16:39] <nedko> hi persia
[16:41] <slytherin> persia: pm?
[16:42] <geser> slytherin: I guess the best way is to grab the manual and look it up
[16:43] <slytherin> geser: hmm, I will try to find it somewhere online.
[16:43] <sebner> geser: thanks for ACKing. This time I tried to give nice information :)
[17:38]  * sistpoty|work heads home now... cya
[17:40] <AnAnt> Hello, is there a team working on gnash ?
[17:40] <AnAnt> the package I mean
[17:41] <slytherin> AnAnt: Don't think there is a team
[17:42] <k0p> someone can take a look in a package that I'm working?
[17:42] <k0p> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit
[17:42] <k0p> it's the link.
[17:42]  * AnAnt stares at slytherin
[17:42] <k0p> It's important. I would like that umit should be available in next version of ubuntu
[17:43] <AnAnt> slytherin: I think you told me that you will REVU swt-gtk
[17:43] <AnAnt> asac: ping
[18:00] <asac> AnAnt: ?
[18:01] <AnAnt> asac: I see that Debian has gnash 0.8.3, while Intrepid still has 0.8.2
[18:01] <AnAnt> asac: I was wondering, will 0.8.3 be in Intrepid ?
[18:03] <asac> AnAnt: its in ppa of gnash team
[18:04] <asac> does 0.82 still work with video?
[18:04] <asac> to answer your question: yes, the idea is to ship 0.8.4 in intrepid
[18:04] <AnAnt> no it doesn't work with youtube
[18:19] <AnAnt> asac: does 0.8.3 work with youtube ?
[18:19] <asac> AnAnt: no ... it crashes gstreamer. but its a gstreamer regressions as its working in hardy (also in the PPA)
[18:40] <CarlFK> trying to make vloopback.deb using http://www.lavrsen.dk/svn/vloopback/trunk/debian/  - README.Debian lost me
[18:40] <CarlFK> anyone know what I need to do?
[18:41] <cody-somerville> !gettingstarted
[18:41] <cody-somerville> gah
[18:41] <CarlFK> I'v read about building .debs in general.  i get the feeling something is missing here
[18:43] <AnAnt> CarlFK: what's vloopback ?
[18:43] <AnAnt> CarlFK: nevermind
[18:44] <CarlFK> http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/VideoFourLinuxLoopbackDevice  I think it is like tee
[18:57] <AnAnt> asac: thanks !
[19:00] <AnAnt> Hello, can I add something like patch in build.xml ?
[19:01] <AnAnt> the upstream puts the java code in a jar file, and in build.xml he unjar's it
[19:01] <AnAnt> I was wondering how I can patch that jar file during build
[19:02] <CarlFK> AnAnt: isn't a .jar a .zip?
[19:03] <AnAnt> CarlFK: yup
[19:05] <CarlFK> oh rats - I forgot a .zip is a container
[19:14] <AnAnt> how do I use quilt in a rules file that uses cdbs ?
[19:14] <AnAnt> I mean, what should I put instead of "include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/dpatch.mk" ?
[19:16] <persia> AnAnt: I believe there is a quilt.mk
[19:16] <Laney> AnAnt: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk
[19:16] <AnAnt> Laney: ok, but I don't see any patch, nor unpatch targets in it
[19:17] <Laney> cdbs is voodoo
[19:17] <persia> For having a .jar as upstream source, just unpack it before patching.  I believe there is a tarball.mk in CDBS which ought also handle .zip (and likely .jar).
[19:18] <AnAnt> persia: the build.xml unpacks it in the "compile" target, I was asking how to do apply a patch from build.xml
[19:19] <persia> AnAnt: I'd recommend unpacking it earlier - patching build.xml to patch the code at build time tends to be hard to debug.
[19:21] <AnAnt> persia: btw, I've put swt-gtk in REVU, it's a new upload based on Debian's latest package
[19:21] <persia> AnAnt: Still not a sync?
[19:22] <AnAnt> persia: no xulrunner-dev yet
[19:28] <StevenK> It's either libxul-dev or xulrunner1.9-dev
[19:29] <AnAnt> StevenK: yes, that's why I made a package based on Debian's swt-gtk
[19:29] <AnAnt> StevenK: Debian's one build-depends on xulrunner-dev
[19:29] <AnAnt> StevenK: my change is to depend on xulrunner-1.9-dev
[19:30] <AnAnt> StevenK: mozillateam said that there will be a xulrunner-dev in next upload, but I dunno when will that be
[19:30] <AnAnt> StevenK: they said with next upstream release
[20:01] <SWAT> I'm trying to build a package (library) using scons, but when the install-part of the pbuilder build sequence starts I get a "scons: *** [/usr/local/include/GG] /usr/local/include/GG: Permission denied". Any tips?
[20:02] <mok0> SWAT: nothing should be in /usr/local
[20:04] <SWAT> mok0: I know, I still need to fix that. But even if it would be in /usr/local I shouldn't get such a message, correct? I find working with scons quite, strange actually
[20:04] <mok0> SWAT: Not sure how pbuilder treats /usr/local
[20:05] <mok0> SWAT: My guess is it doesn't allow it
[20:06] <SWAT> ok, I'll fix that and then I'll get back to you
[20:07] <persia> SWAT: Also verify that you aren't using a raw fixed URL.  The install ought happen to debian/tmp/usr/... or so, rather than the real /usr/local/...
[20:30] <norsetto> evening gents
[20:31] <nhandler> Hello norsetto
[20:31] <sebner> norsetto: \o/
[20:31] <norsetto> hi nhandler
[20:32] <norsetto> hi sebner
[20:32] <mok0> norsetto: Morituri te salutant
[20:33] <laga> macabre
[20:33] <norsetto> mok0: is that bad?  It still tries to install in /usr/local and this line in rules is the cause "cd GG && scons PREFIX=/usr installprefix=/usr DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/usr install". Any tips?
[20:47] <mok0> SWAT: /usr/local may be hardwired in one of the SConstruct files
[20:48]  * mok0 asserts scons is evil
[20:49] <persia> SWAT: You'll want to convince scons that installprefix is $(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/usr
[20:49] <SWAT> I do not like scons either, but I don't have a choice. I thank you in advance for all the help. I'll check the src tree for '/usr/local' hardwiring
[20:51] <mok0> persia: you may need prefix=/usr if that information is used to configure the sortware before compiling
[20:52] <persia> mok0: Yes.  From what I understand about scons, one wants prefix=/usr and installprefix=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/usr/
[20:53] <SWAT> mok0: your right, it's hardwired into the code, it's scary. Luckily nothing sed can't cure.
[20:53] <mok0> SWAT: if this is meant to be submitted to ubuntu, you have to make patches
[20:55] <mario_limonciell> man, someone decided to go a little crazy on release version numbers? <IP_ADDRESS>+<IP_ADDRESS>5ubuntu1~hardy1+really<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2
[20:56] <mok0> lol
[20:56] <SWAT> mok0: thanks for the headsup, I'll keep it in mind (depends on how much hassle this package is going to be)
[20:56] <mok0> SWAT: right!
[20:57] <mario_limonciell> i've not got a clue how that is supposed to be deciphered, but my guess is it was because there was a desire to not introduce epochs
[20:57] <stgraber> mario_limonciell: doesn't look like a valid one :) (should be -0ubuntu2 and that 525ubuntu1 also looks weird)
[20:57] <mario_limonciell> stgraber, well it's most definitely sitting in my update-manager for hardy-backports
[20:57] <stgraber> hmm, ok :)
[21:00] <geser> mario_limonciell: where did you found that version?
[21:01] <mario_limonciell> geser, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree
[21:01] <geser> stgraber: native packages don't have a debian revision, so ending in .0ubuntu2 is possible
[21:03] <stgraber> geser: hmm right, and for this one it's actually the case.
[21:05] <mario_limonciell> i seem to think that the upload <IP_ADDRESS>+<IP_ADDRESS>5ubuntu1 was named wrong, and that's what started this mess
[21:06] <mario_limonciell> crimsun, any comments as to why you named it that way?  it doesn't seem apparent in the changelog
[21:09] <NCommander> anyone in the mood to sponsor a FTBFS bug fix?
[21:11] <StevenK> NCommander: I can have a look, sure.
[21:12] <NCommander> At the rate I'm going, I'm going to run out of FTBFS before Interpids release ;-)
[21:12] <NCommander> *shot*
[21:12] <NCommander> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/licq/+bug/248298
[21:13] <ScottK> mario_limonciell: That was the only way out of a bad backport.
[21:14] <SWAT> hmmm, scons gives an error yet again. Now with the same permission denied error in /usr/include/GG -> http://pastebin.com/d67630491
[21:14] <NCommander> SWAT, what package?
[21:16] <StevenK> NCommander: You should close the bug in the changelog.
[21:16] <NCommander> StevenK, its hard to do that when I make the patch before I create the bug report ;-)
[21:17] <StevenK> NCommander: Well, okay. :-)
[21:17] <StevenK> NCommander: Your debdiff looks good.
[21:17] <SWAT> NCommander: gg :)
[21:18] <NCommander> I am aware of LP, but I have a bad habit of only opening a fix bug after I do the debdiff creation/pbuilder testing
[21:18]  * NCommander installs scratchbox so I can work on teh FTBFS on sparc
[21:21] <geser> NCommander: me too, when preparing a debdiff I put a place holder into the changelog, file a bug so I know the bug number and replace the place holder with the bug number before attaching the debdiff in a comment
[21:21] <NCommander> I don't have a happy feeling about changing the debdiff by hand
[21:22] <NCommander> But its not a bad idea
[21:23] <geser> NCommander: I insert something like "(LP: #xxxxxx)" while creating the changelog and replace later just the "x" with the real bug number, no risk breaking the (deb)diff
[21:23] <ScottK> As long as you don't change the number of lines in the diff, it's safe.
[21:24] <mario_limonciell> ScottK, why was it a "bad" backport though?
[21:24] <NCommander> I'll keep that in mind
[21:24] <mario_limonciell> oh i guess i should look at bug 235135
[21:24]  * NCommander watches ubuntu sparc install
[21:24] <NCommander> Weird
[21:24] <ScottK> mario_limonciell: Lots of crashes and regressions and pain.
[21:24] <ScottK> mario_limonciell: Yes.
[21:25] <NCommander> Ow
[21:25] <NCommander> I've done a few backports for Debian, a bad backport will cause massive headaches
[21:27] <mario_limonciell> ScottK, yuck.  my head spins just from reading a few posts on there
[21:27] <ScottK> Yeah.
[21:27]  * StevenK watches licq build, glaring at NCommander
[21:28]  * NCommander has nothing to fear but fear itself
[21:28] <StevenK> Hah
[21:29] <NCommander> With one exception, I don't think I ever caused a package to commit suidice (yet)
[21:30] <NCommander> I'm probably going to see if I can slaughter the netatalk FTBFS later
[21:31]  * NCommander waits for StevenK's build to run
[21:33] <NCommander> StevenK, how's it going?
[21:33] <StevenK> NCommander: It installs kdelibs, need you ask?
[21:33] <NCommander> ow
[21:33] <NCommander> I might have to run before it finishes
[21:34] <StevenK> NCommander: Well, if it builds, I'll upload it.
[21:39] <NCommander> meh, I'll mess with qemu-binfmt later
[21:44] <StevenK> NCommander: Uploaded.
[21:45] <NCommander> sweet
[21:45] <NCommander> Thanks, I need to run
[21:45] <nhandler> Bye NCommander
[23:24] <NCommander> Hola life
[23:24] <NCommander> er, guys
[23:25] <nhandler> Welcome back NCommander
[23:25]  * NCommander grumbles about his fire department
[23:30] <norsetto> motu-sru ?
[23:31]  * NCommander fiddles with binfmt
[23:33] <norsetto> %_#(&_(%&_@#$
[23:35] <NCommander> o-O;
[23:38] <norsetto> any clue why something would build on a pbuilder and not inside the LP buildd?


[01:48] <nickellery> hey, can anyone tell me how I can change this:
[01:48] <nickellery> <ulink type="help" url="ghelp:add-applications">Add Applications</ulink>
[01:48] <nickellery> to direct to basic-commands instead?
[01:48] <nickellery> I've tried changing add-applications to that, but received a parsing error when I tried Yelp
[05:32] <nickellery> hey, can anyone tell me how I can change this:
[05:32] <nickellery> <ulink type="help" url="ghelp:add-applications">Add Applications</ulink>
[05:32] <nickellery> to direct to basic-commands instead?
[05:33] <nixternal> <ulink type="help" url="ghelp:basic-commands">Basic Commands</ulink> is my guess
[05:36] <nickellery> I tried that an received a parsing error when I tried Yelp
[06:00] <nixternal> is it basic commands or basic concepts/
[06:01] <nickellery> the file is called basic-commands.xml
[06:02] <nixternal> I am not familiar with yelp/ghelp nor do I have the ubuntu docs checked out, just Kubuntu...maybe someone else might be able to help a bit better than I can right now...sorry
[06:02] <nickellery> alright, thanks for trying
[17:02] <alefteris> I would like some help with building a localised version of the help.ubuntu.com. I'm trying with "make -C ubuntu -f Makefile all" but i get lots of "No localization exists for "c" or "". Using default "en".". What am I doing wrong?
[19:56] <ikonia> is there a page in the wiki on all the wiki codes for formatting, eg: bullet points ?
[20:19] <ikonia> yes
[20:19] <ikonia> oops
[20:19] <ikonia> sorry
[20:20] <ikonia> wrong window
[22:47] <mdke> ikonia: yes, HelpOnEditing
[22:47] <ikonia> ah, thank you


[07:21] <davidcalle> Good morning all
[08:46] <tsdgeos> dednick: lots of commented stuff in that MR?
[08:48] <dednick> tsdgeos: stuff in VideoPlayer is waiting on a design review (may need the ShaderEffect), and the other is the sharing via content hub.
[08:48] <dednick> tsdgeos: will be removed before merging
[08:48] <tsdgeos> k
[08:50] <tsdgeos> dednick: why the "find_package(Qt5Multimedia 5.4 REQUIRED)" ?
[08:52] <dednick> tsdgeos: you mean the version, or the actual requirement?
[08:52] <tsdgeos> the requirement
[08:52] <dednick> the tests use qtmultimedia.
[08:53] <dednick> mocks i mean
[08:53] <dednick> tsdgeos: ^
[08:54] <tsdgeos> dednick: do they?
[08:54] <tsdgeos> i can't find where
[08:54] <tsdgeos> i.e. tests/mocks/QtMultimedia/CMakeLists.txt only links to qml and quick
[08:56] <dednick> tsdgeos: oh. hm. maybe it was something i was doing before.
[08:59] <dednick> tsdgeos: actually, i think i was getting an import failure when running.
[08:59] <dednick> tsdgeos: qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin is in the control file. so shouldn't it be in cmake? or only build reqs in cmake?
[09:00] <tsdgeos> dednick: only build reqs i'd say
[09:01] <tsdgeos> dednick: the import failure was on running tests or real running?
[09:01] <dednick> tsdgeos: real
[09:01] <tsdgeos> is that because you didn't have qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin and then the cmake made you install it?
[09:02] <dednick> tsdgeos: well, it didnt make me install, because there wasn't a req in the cmake.
[09:04] <tsdgeos> aaaaand i lost intenret
[09:05] <tsdgeos> dednick: right, i mean it was fixed because you added the req in cmake
[09:05] <tsdgeos> and then it was fine
[09:06] <dednick> ya. i think so :/ if i'm remembering corrrectly
[09:06] <tsdgeos> ok, i guess it doesn't hurt
[10:28] <tsdgeos> dednick: autopkg doesn't like your new requirement https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-wily/35/console
[10:28] <tsdgeos> so i guess remove it if it's really not needed on build time?
[10:31] <tsdgeos> and i disconnected again
[10:31] <tsdgeos> this internet is awful today too :(
[10:46] <dednick> tsdgeos: hm. weird
[10:47] <tsdgeos> cimi: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/fallbackImage/+merge/258399 ?
[10:47] <dednick> tsdgeos: works on mine.
[10:48] <tsdgeos> dednick: what works? the build? of course because you have the package
[10:48] <dednick> tsdgeos: cmake
[10:49] <tsdgeos> dednick: the thing is that the debian/control file is not asking for qtmultimedia
[10:49] <tsdgeos> and then cmake is
[10:49] <tsdgeos> so it won't build
[10:49] <cimi> tsdgeos, ok
[10:50] <dednick> tsdgeos: doesnt qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin supply that?
[10:51] <tsdgeos> dednick: no, that's just the qml plugin
[10:51] <tsdgeos> the actual cmake stuff you're asking most likely comes in qtmultimedia5-dev
[10:51] <dednick> ok. but thats why i added it :) because the import failed... whatever. i removed it
[13:32] <tsdgeos> mzanetti|otp: top approve! https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/#inbox/14d94eb7ba7d37d3
[14:08] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, not sure what that link should be
[14:08] <ltinkl> secret message
[14:08] <tsdgeos> lol
[14:09] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: this one
[14:09] <tsdgeos> https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/oxide_regression_workaround/+merge/260271
[14:10] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, happroved! nice one
[14:10] <dandrader> mzanetti, so what should I be flashing nowadays when testing a merge proposal?
[14:10] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: and https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/make_try_no_cpu_usage/+merge/260288 too
[14:10] <mzanetti> dandrader, in theory wily... let's see how long that'll work in practice
[14:10] <tsdgeos> dandrader: maybe you? ↑↑
[14:18] <tsdgeos> damn, stupid me
[14:18] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i'll resubmit https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/make_try_no_cpu_usage/+merge/260288 based on https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/oxide_regression_workaround/+merge/260271 otherwise CI will fail
[14:18] <tsdgeos> you'll have to re-approve
[14:18] <mzanetti> ah right
[14:19] <mzanetti> yeah, sure
[14:23] <dandrader> mzanetti, but my desktop is still vivid+overlay_ppa, should I move to wily as well?
[14:31] <mzanetti> dandrader, yeah, we'll probably have to. not right now as wily and vivid+overlay are still in sync for what is affecting us
[14:31] <mzanetti> but probably wont take long until we have to upgrade
[14:45] <greyback_> dednick: fyi, this small part of the card is ready for review: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtubuntu/window-close-support/+merge/249579
[14:47] <greyback_> tsdgeos: hey, could you please bump the version in https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/qtmir/gles-sync-shellRotation/+merge/260114 - I had to rebuild qtmir in the PPA
[14:47] <greyback_> tsdgeos:  	0.4.5+15.10.20150527.1-0ubuntu1
[14:48] <tsdgeos> sure
[14:49] <tsdgeos> done
[14:49] <greyback_> thanks
[15:47] <dednick> greyback_: yup. i saw that already.
[15:47] <greyback_> ok, just in case
[15:55] <dandrader> mzanetti, we (eg qtmir) depend on mir 0.13 but wily still has mir 0.12.1. not sure what to do :-?
[15:55] <dandrader> :-/
[15:55] <dandrader> (when it comes to testing branches, that is)
[15:56] <dandrader> mzanetti, I guess vivid+overlay_ppa is in a better shape?
[15:56] <mzanetti> yeah, sil is supposed to sync it over to wily
[15:56] <mzanetti> kgunn, is there any update on that? ^
[15:57] <kgunn> mzanetti: ok....long story short, we (mir team) goofed
[15:57] <kgunn> broke an abi, need to rebuild qtubuntu as well
[15:57] <kgunn> this is happening now
[15:58] <kgunn> and when this silo hits wily it'll make everything happy....and flow into wily
[15:58] <kgunn> mzanetti:  there was a check in wily, that wasn't in overlay...so didn't catch the goof
[15:58] <dandrader> ok, will defer testing for a couple of days then.
[15:59] <kgunn> dandrader: mzanetti ....sorry
[18:38] <kgunn> @unity hey does the grid unit web tool that ben shared in his blog work for everyone ?
[18:39] <kgunn> or maybe i don't know how to use it...
[18:40] <mzanetti> kgunn, define "work"?
[18:40] <mzanetti> I seem to be unable to use it too atm
[18:41] <kgunn> mzanetti: yeah, thot i should see icons/gridlines....all i can do is select portrait/landscape and n7/n10...but nothing else
[18:41] <mzanetti> I can control stuff, and that works, but not figured yet how to actually add things
[18:42] <kgunn> was wondering if it was cause i'm in chrome
[18:42] <mzanetti> yeah... same thing I guess
[18:42]  * mzanetti firefox
[18:44] <mzanetti> kgunn, same in safari
[18:44] <greyback__> I can add lines clicking the + in the layouts bar
[18:45] <kgunn> mzanetti: ok,mailed ben and cc'd you
[18:45] <mzanetti> kgunn, hmpf... clicking the +es does something
[18:46] <kgunn> hehe...oops
[18:46] <kgunn> yep works here
[18:48] <mzanetti> interesting...
[18:57] <mzanetti> kgunn, am I understanding this correctly that the gu size would change on rotation?
[19:03] <greyback__> "It can only be 40, 50, or 90 whole units along the short edge but the long edge can be variable"
[19:04] <greyback__> which I'd interpret as a: no, gu size invariant of rotation
[19:05] <kgunn> but if you click it, it does change no ?
[19:06] <kgunn> it being between landscape/portrait
[19:06] <kgunn> oh wait i see what you mean....
[19:06] <kgunn> right fixed to short edge
[19:07] <greyback__> yep
[19:07] <kgunn> but it does change what is a vertical column
[19:07] <mzanetti> greyback__, example, the dash
[19:07] <mzanetti> device N7
[19:07] <greyback__> I'm not saying I understand the whole concept tho!
[19:07] <mzanetti> portrait, 50 gu
[19:08] <kgunn> anyone understand the colors ?
[19:08] <mzanetti> then click landscape
[19:08] <greyback__> this is more confusing to me than properly responsive UI
[19:08] <mzanetti> which gives us 80 gu in width
[19:08] <mzanetti> thing is, the dash is now painted along those 80 gu in width
[19:09] <mzanetti> kgunn, no, haven't figured the colors yet
[19:10] <greyback__> mzanetti: since the dash is a single column, just stretching the contents to fit is just fine IMO (the gridview relayouts to take advantage of the extra width)
[19:10] <greyback__> but for a multi-column/layout app, ben's doc makes useful suggestions
[19:10] <mzanetti> yes
[19:11] <greyback__> tho dash could evolve into a multi-column UI, i.e. it could be 2 cols in landscape mode, second column being another lens
[19:11] <greyback__> that's up to design
[19:12] <mzanetti> but what you mean with streching?
[19:12] <mzanetti> isn't to point of this to not stretch?
[19:14] <greyback__> mzanetti: just adjust its width to suit, and redraw to use that width (as a gridview will do)
[19:15] <greyback__> again, just my interpretation, thye may have other ideas
[19:15] <mzanetti> that would cause only 4 columns  on landscape N7. not sure if that's the intention


[01:09] <teward> who's es20490446e and why are they being... grammatically incorrectish?
[01:09] <teward> (see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Bug%20importances?action=diff&rev1=40&rev2=41 )
[01:14] <penguin42> I'm not sure he's on irc
[01:14] <penguin42> it's Alberto....
[01:14] <teward> well, his "change" has been reverted
[01:15] <teward> not by me, someone beat me to it
[01:16] <teward> it may just be the fact I had too much to drink at dinner, but the grammatical incorrectness really irked me >.>
[01:16]  * penguin42 is rare;y grammatically correct, so rarely gets irked by it
[01:18] <penguin42> or even typograhpically
[13:33] <brainwash> hggdh_: can you please remove the papercuts project from bug 1229486 ? it was added many weeks after the proposed patch has been attached, so it does not make any sense.. unless the papercut guys do also packaging
[13:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1229486 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu) "xscreensaver-command is slow at locking" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229486
[13:35] <brainwash> I'll try to get someone to cherry pick the patch, sadly the new xscreensaver version has not been synced from debian :/


[02:56] <rishov> Hello! Has anyone else been experiencing an issue with the MOTD news not updating? My /var/cache/motd-news still reads "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS end-of-life is April 25, 2017 -- Upgrade your Precise systems!  $ sudo do-release-upgrade -m server" even though https://motd.ubuntu.com/ has something completely different.
[12:49] <clobrano_> Hey there, I've just accepted to the bug-team (awesome, thanks!) and I'm trying to understand better the triaging flow. More precisely I'm looking at bug #1693756, it seems confirmed and also "in progress", is there any reason why it isn't "triaged" yet? Thank you
[14:43] <rbasak> clobrano_: Triaged seems appropriate.
[14:46] <rbasak> (for the Ubuntu task)
[14:50] <clobrano_> rbasak, thanks!


[21:51] <dckc> Hi. This HP Envy says "selected boot image did not authenticate" when I try to boot from USB stick. I have a working Ubuntu desktop (where this IRC client is running). Clues?
[21:51] <dckc> Most clues I find are about upgrading the bios -- how do I do that when the HP Envy won't boot?
[21:52] <dckc> When I let it try to boot windows, it goes into recovery / repair but then says "recovery failed" (roughly)
[21:52] <dckc> It looks like I need to make a UEFI boot USB stick. Clues for doing this seem pretty obscure.
[22:00] <dckc> ooh! I think I got it...


 @The_LoudSpeaker wxl agaida says he can have the new release of globalkeys tomorrow or friday
[00:08] <wxl> that would be great
[02:19] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Beta] has been updated (20190926)
[04:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd0a553427171: Reword show on start checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd0a553427171
[04:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0156edf54848: Update Qterminal appearnce tab prefrences screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0156edf54848
 @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker wxl agaida says he can have the new release of globalkeys tomor …], Noice.
 @queuebot [<queuebot> Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Beta] has been updated (20190926)], does this mean beta released?
[09:10] <guiverc> The_LoudSpeaker, it's an updated beta I gather; I thought I did a couple of tests yesterday but don't show (iso.qa.ubuntu.com); which I take as a new-daily/updated-beta is out
[09:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> umm
[09:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> english ploxx?
[09:24] <RikMills> all isos were respun about 3am UTC
[09:24] <RikMills> beta is not out yet
[09:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> Ohh. Thanks!
[18:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfd8fda9d6c61: Reword terminal margin] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfd8fda9d6c61
 won't be able to participate in todays meeting, most recent actions are here https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/issues/142
 also, I found thhat the thumbnail icon for filepicker is still info icon (we changed for pcmanfm in https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPCMANFMQTPACKAGINGd29bd881e214801b5aac91e6ef1a06d92b0dc1ff ) there is solution upstream but NOT being so important I wouldn't patch it at this stage.
[21:05] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Beta] has been updated (20190926.1)
[21:17] <wxl> !standup
[21:18] <lynorian> \o
[21:18] <wxl> heh looks like it mighe be you and me at this rate XD
[21:18] <lynorian> I mean I am not feeling the best either but did prepare a psate
[21:19] <wxl> well everyone can read logs i guess
[21:19] <wxl> feel free to paste away and when you're done i'll fill in for some others
[21:19] <lynorian> Statistics about peers in transmission
[21:19] <lynorian> move document properties in lowriter to won section
[21:19] <lynorian> reworded many badly worded things
[21:19] <lynorian> made charts there own section and add much detail
[21:19] <lynorian> add missing features to quick launch and the calendar in the panel
[21:19] <lynorian> update keyboard shortcuts thanks RAman
[21:21] <wxl> glad to hera about shortcuts especially. thanks!
[21:21] <wxl> as always, your consistency amazes me
[21:22] <wxl> so i haven't heard from simon
[21:22] <wxl> i know raman's been busy, so he's probably unavailable
[21:23] <wxl> there is this from hans:
[21:23] <wxl> 1301 < lubot:#lubuntu-devel> <HMollerCl> won't be able to participate in todays meeting, most recent actions are here https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/issues/142
[21:23] <wxl> 1304 < lubot:#lubuntu-devel> <HMollerCl> also, I found thhat the thumbnail icon for filepicker is still info icon (we changed for pcmanfm in
[21:23] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPCMANFMQTPACKAGINGd29bd881e214801b5aac91e6ef1a06d92b0dc1ff ) there is solution upstream but NOT being so important I wouldn't patch it at this stage.
[21:23] <wxl> that is relevant especially because he's been helping raman figure out the globalkeys issues. upstream has been helpful. we just need to figure it all out.
[21:24] <wxl> from dan:
[21:24] <wxl> I don't have much to report other than I wasn't able to execute my task in a timely manner and the wallpapers didn't make it into the beta. I will work on testing the beta images next.
[21:24] <wxl> and lastly myself..
[21:24] <wxl>  * helped a bit with xscreensvaer details
[21:25] <wxl>  * did a cursory review of guiverc's testcase stuff.. still needs full review
[21:25] <wxl>  * struggled with getting the wallpapers added.. this is still not entirely fixed. phab is being a boo boo head, or rather i think our s3 storage is *ahem simon*
[21:25] <wxl>  * severely simplified testing wiki
[21:26] <wxl> and since it's been quiet just moving beta testing along a bit
[21:26] <wxl> we just got a new respin due to changes in ubiquity (we don't care), casper and grub, so we'll need some help checking things out
[21:26] <wxl> if you have spare cycles, do some other flavors, too
[21:26] <wxl> that's all for me
[21:26] <wxl> anyone else/
 @wxl [<wxl> anyone else/], how can we test the beta?
[21:28] <wxl> @N0um3n0 here's the instructions.. if it's not clear, please let me know https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/
 @wxl [<wxl> @N0um3n0 here's the instructions.. if it's not clear, please let me know h …], ok , thanks ;)
[21:29] <wxl> anyone else?
[21:31] <kc2bez> Dad taxi has landed. I am here now.
[21:31] <wxl> i pasted for you fwiw
[21:31] <kc2bez> Thank you
[21:31] <kc2bez> any questions please let me know
 for my part lxqt translations, nothing directly for lubuntu other than support
[21:32] <wxl> that helps a lot!!!!!!
 ;)
[21:37] <wxl> well that said i'm calling it. keep up the good work, everyone!
[21:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> o/
[21:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> ohh! meet done.
[21:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> Nothing from me apart from additions to draft announcement on codi.
[21:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> @lynorian can you send me the link to manual page which has updated shortcuts? I will add it to draft announcement.
[22:42] <lynorian> oh for where it will be on the release notes
[22:47] <lynorian> Oh ok it should be on appendix F https://manual.lubuntu.me/F/keyboard_shortcuts.html
[22:47] <lynorian> but is not quite updated on published stuff yet
 wxl: Delegating sign-off for Beta to you
[23:12] <wxl> @tsimonq2: then delegating testing and final release to you
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: then delegating testing and final release to you], Final release is mine anyway
[23:15] <wxl> ugh i'm buried at work. i hope someone can get some testing in
 I solicited some testing help wxl @franksmcb
[23:24] <wxl> phew thx
 Just let me know what y'all need
[23:24] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/
 Do you just want me to run the iso tests? Or anything more specific.
[23:27] <wxl> that's it, really
 Ok will do
[23:27] <wxl> do the testcases, mark them accordingly on the tracker, report any bugs and mark them accordingly, too
[23:28] <wxl> vms are fine but if you have spare machines, hardware testing is always appreciated
[23:28] <wxl> if you want to go all out, also check on encryption, uefi/bios, secure boot, etc.
 @franksmcb if you have something with EFI that would be great. I don't have a spare machine for that. but whatever you have is great.
[23:29] <wxl> we don't have those testcases set up yet (soon) but https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/
 Really appreciate the help.
[23:29] <wxl> +100000000
 I'll sacrifice the Ubuntu MATE test machine for you today
[23:29] <wxl> ooh thx!!!
 I think we can get people in the Spanish channel to help with iso testing @N0um3n0


[00:47] <stephenb> how do I decrease monitor brightness?
[01:37] <danilo_> ola
[05:05] <Guest79019> ayuda
 @Newbie101 [<Newbie101> Hello there. I am entirely new to linux, and I am experiencing some …], Does your computer he's enough resources? Like ram and storage? Also mention the processor please. Also, did you check the iso checksums?
[14:48] <den> hello!)
[14:50] <den> who is here?
[14:52] <kc2bez> There is some ~150 of us between Telegram and IRC.
[14:52] <kc2bez> !ask
[14:53] <den> thank you)
 @Newbie101 [<Newbie101> Hello there. I am entirely new to linux, and I am experiencing some …], Share the system config please
 Use neofetch on terminal
[15:33] <kc2bez> @The_Loudspeaker @IndianOSR911 that user left the IRC channel hours ago.
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> @The_Loudspeaker @IndianOSR911 that user left the IRC channel hours ago …], Lol! Lite.
 @The_LoudSpeaker to know who are on irc you can use /names
 @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker to know who are on irc you can use /names], Sure. Thanks!
[19:33] <sappheiros> !bug
[19:33] <sappheiros> how do i report the bug that my login keyboard is set to dvorak while layout says 'us'?
[19:34] <wxl> login keyboard meaning the login manager or the encrypted password prompt?


[04:27] <everwolf> hola
[04:28] <everwolf> como estan
[04:29] <everwolf> hola?
[04:30] <everwolf> hola
[04:31] <everwolf> alguien para hablar ??
[04:31] <everwolf> da fiaca no hablar con nadie ,jaja
[04:31] <everwolf> -_-
[04:32] <rosgani> hi everwolf
[04:32] <Bashing-om> !es | everwolf
[04:40] <kotgc> Hello, I'm receiving this tar error https://dpaste.com/DXJKJW6PW
[04:41] <kotgc> However, if I remove lines 9, 10, 13-15 this may not backup the disk which needs backup of its data?
[04:48] <shadow255> kotgc: it appears that command intends *not* to include the non-existent targets. Eliminating the lines for them is a good thing if it allows your command to work.
[05:27] <kotgc> shadow255 thank you for clarifying the code. I can move on to the next problem then, why does the OS backup not have these files? There is only sda1 which is EFI and sda2 which appears to be the OS.
[05:47] <backthen> my flash drive is read only and I can't find ways to change it. Is it because the physical write-lock button is broken on it
[06:09] <UndrWater_> backthen: from what i've read, it's because it's ready to be finished. reads, ok. writes. done.
[06:24] <backthen> hmm looks like the issue is with this Access Control List
[06:25] <UndrWater_> backthen: that's another possibility
[06:26] <backthen> UndrWater_:  though I do also get the 'ready to be finished' issue for most disks. Though that's a separate issue largely I ignore
[06:26] <backthen> for ACL I found a script to remove it and now I can write to the disk
[06:29] <UndrWater_> backthen: congrats
[06:41] <backthen> thanks. I want to make this SD card install with Ubuntu. Though I hear that will quickly damage the card
[06:49] <UndrWater_> backthen: you want to install ubuntu on the SD card, or you want to use the SD card to install ubuntu?
[06:57] <backthen> UndrWater_: the former. Ubuntu on the SD card and boot from it
[06:58] <UndrWater_> yeah. better from a real drive, such as an ssd or spinny drive
[06:59] <UndrWater_> you can use SD for boot. what are you installing on?
[07:03] <backthen> a laptop. It's a 32G SD card I dont care if damaged. As long as I can use it for a year for simple work then I'm happy
[07:07] <UndrWater_> backthen: if it's new, maybe it'll work. otherwise, maybe an ssd attached via usb?
[07:15] <backthen> UndrWater_: I do have ssd via usb too, though it's bulky so I thought to give SD a try. I figure as long as I don't do lots of file io except the file io that occur inherently from ubuntu, then should last a while
[07:17] <UndrWater_> it "might". which is the problem. backup. backup. backup.
[07:17] <UndrWater_> otherwise. you're good!
[07:18] <backthen> will do. It's nice to get some last use of this SD card that's otherwise falling apart physically
[07:20] <UndrWater_> ;-)
[07:24] <backthen> btw unrelated, I have another laptop that I boot via a Ubuntu usb drive with 'try ubuntu'. The ubuntu logo appears for a few minutes and eventually I get a terminal text message something like 'media creation failed', and then I'm asked to remove the usb drive and reboot. I guess that laptop has some issues?
[07:30] <UndrWater_> backthen: i'd suspect the usb first. but perhaps you are correct
[07:30] <UndrWater_> night time for me. good luck!
[07:34] <backthen> thanks gn. The usb does work on other laptops. The problem laptop I figure may have ram or cpu issues
[07:50] <realivanjx> hi. i am using ubuntu 23.10. after setting up wireguard using the cli, i noticed that the dns settings in the conf file isnt respected by the operating system (still uses the dns server from the wifi/router). i have to always manually change the dns server from the network settings gui. is there a way to make ubuntu to use the wireguard dns
[07:50] <realivanjx> setting?
[07:52] <alkisg> realivanjx: what's the output of `resolvectl`, does it list the DNS server under the wireguard link?
[07:55] <realivanjx> alkisg: yes i can see the wireguard interface with the correct dns according to the conf file
[07:55] <realivanjx> but when i use dig, it still hits the default ones on my laptop's wifi
[07:56] <alkisg> Can you actually pastebin the output of resolvectl? Feel free to modify things for privacy if you like
[07:56] <realivanjx> ok one sec
[07:56] <alkisg> And, you want wireguard dns to be the dns for everything, or just for a certain domain?
[07:57] <realivanjx> alkisg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YcxvZHd7xK/
[07:59] <realivanjx> alkisg: i want the wireguard's dns to be the dns for everything
[07:59] <realivanjx> currently the wg's dns is completely ignored
[08:01] <realivanjx> here is my wg client conf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BpzDWsJ6gs/
[08:08] <alkisg> realivanjx: did that use to work in the past? 23.10 has had some silly netplan changes, changing the network-manager file format. Also are you using network-manager?
[08:08] <alkisg> Finally, why don't you put allowedips=<IP_ADDRESS>/0 if you want everything to go through the tunnel? I faintly remember that this made systemd-resolved apply the global dns setting then...
[08:11] <realivanjx> because i only want to use my own dns
[08:11] <realivanjx> i dont want the other traffic to go through the vpn
[08:12] <realivanjx> alkisg: and no this is my first time setting this up on ubuntu
[08:12] <alkisg> Are you using network-manager, e.g. does `nmcli con show` list the connection?
[08:14] <realivanjx> im not really sure if i use network-manager or some other since i never touch those so it should use whatever is preconfigured with ubuntu 23. i can see the wifi connection on nmcli con show though
[08:14] <alkisg> Do you also see the wireguard connection, i.e. have you imported it or are you just running it manually each time?
[08:15] <realivanjx> yea it is also there. i only configured the wireguard via wg cli only
[08:16] <alkisg> OK if you're running it manually and you don't want to use allowedips <IP_ADDRESS> (understandable) then I think you'll need something like this: https://www.procustodibus.com/blog/2022/03/wireguard-dns-config-for-systemd/#override-dns-globally
[08:17] <realivanjx> ok thanks. do you have an idea to undo the PostUp command for the PostDown?
[08:28] <realivanjx> nevermind. it seems that the actual problem is that the dns i set in the wireguard conf is not prioritized so the system still uses the wifi's. what is the command to disable dhcp's dns to put it in PostUp and revert that in PostDown.
[08:41] <tretre> 9
[08:46] <wonderer> hey all,
[08:46] <wonderer> I am trying to install on ams hyperv ubuntu-22.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso
[08:46] <wonderer> ams=a
[08:47] <wonderer> but getting from Cd, error: "unsigned image's hash is not allowed"
[08:47] <wonderer> so which images can I use thats allowed?
[08:47] <wonderer> dont want desktop
[08:48] <wonderer> and also dont wan tuse the quick menu options, want to bespoke the setting while create the vm
[13:32] <r_ha> Hey, Is there a way to use clonezilla from usb drive on aarch64?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:50] <jeremy31> r_ha: You can install clonezilla on Ubuntu ISO on USB
[13:52] <r_ha> but still, after trying to boot it i get nothing but black screen
[13:59] <jeremy31> Is there any ISO that boots?
[14:07] <r_ha> yes
[14:07] <jeremy31> r_ha: what one?
[14:18] <CosmicDJ> jeremy31: ubuntu-23.10.1-desktop-amd64.iso for example
[19:36] <mra90> I have two devices connected to local WiFi one is a windows device and internet works fine but the other is Ubuntu laptop, connected to the same network but no internet or super super slow
[19:36] <mra90> what maight be wrong here? Also, it used to work well
[19:37] <mra90> when I ping that ubuntu laptop from windows I get: Ping statistics for <IP_ADDRESS>:
[19:37] <mra90>     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 2, Lost = 2 (50% loss),
[19:43] <bprompt> mra90: the WiFi coming from a local router you can access?
[19:43] <mra90> bprompt, yes
[19:43] <bprompt> mra90: tried restarting the router yet? so it does rediscovery of devices
[19:44] <mra90> hmm that would disable internet for everybody in the building so I would rather do it as a last thing
[19:44] <mra90> and also, no issue on windows
[19:44] <bprompt> mra90: other than that, I'd try jogging the linux wifi driver, or a reinstallation of it
[19:44] <mra90> so router itself is fine
[19:44] <mra90> I tried to reboot ubuntu but no improvement
[19:45] <mra90> It even shows the network signal strength is "Good"
[19:47] <bprompt> mra90: you could try -> https://devicetests.com/uninstall-reinstall-wifi-drivers-ubuntu <-
[19:47] <bprompt> mra90: what I can think of, is some library issue
[20:26] <calamari> I'd like to set up Ubuntu 22.04 as a WPA2/3 secured Wi-Fi hotspot, with a host IP of my choosing, such that an Apple iPad (specifically) will connect to it and can communicate with the host. I've been able to accomplish some of these things, but not all at once. For example, choosing the host IP was a problem, and getting the iPad to see it as a valid connection was also a problem. Anyone accomplished this before?
[20:30] <toddc> calamari: not really a ubuntu issue but all of those should be able to be done but 50% router IE is the router setup for static and is it a availible ip address on the router
[20:34] <calamari> toddc: They should be yes, as OpenWRT seems to be capable of it. Not sure how to accomplish it in Ubuntu tho. I suspect NetworkManager is to blame, but I'm not sure.
[20:36] <calamari> toddc: also, just to clear up any confusion: there is no router, just a pc and ipad, both with wifi.
[20:38] <calamari> Android seemed quite happy to connect (albiet with the wrong host IP due to it being hardcoded in NM), but iPad not so much
[20:39] <calamari> I suppose I could try recompiling netowrk manager to change the IP, unless I'm wrong and it's actually somewhere else like the kernel
[20:39] <calamari> I guess that's where I'll start
[20:42] <toddc> calamari: I suspect you are folloing a oder wifi hotspot guide but atthe moment I cannot test at right now but a static IP can and should be set in the hotspot tool in network manager it will be differnt for each connection wired and or wifi
[20:42] <toddc> older
[20:44] <toddc> looking at the guide it just connects wired to wireless and passes the ip to the wired network https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html.en
[21:19] <jeremy31> calamari: Check out https://github.com/lakinduakash/linux-wifi-hotspot
[21:30] <lch> anyone home
[21:31] <CosmicDJ> lch: depends
[21:31] <lch> why does usb-creator-gtk run forever when creating the usb stick from an iso image?
[22:18] <calamari> jeremy31: at least the GUI shown on the GitHub README doesn't seem to have a host IP address setting. Is it in there somewhere?
[22:37] <ruser> hello, how do i find which package is providing libxcb-errors?  I'm trying to build sway from src but  can't seem to meet this dependency.
[22:37] <rbox> apt-file can tell you what package something is in
[22:37] <calamari> jeremy31: Yes it does, and it seems to work.. Thanks a lot!
[22:38] <ruser> rbox: oh, nice. does it require a package to be installed on the system to find?
[22:39] <rbox> no
[22:39] <rbox> if it was installed you could just use dpkg
[22:39] <ruser> thank you
[23:13] <yuvraj> :)


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