[00:00] <chris_____> happy new year?
[00:01] <chris_____> mauri: have you tried fdisk and mkfs?
[00:02] <mauri> chris_____: of course but im beginner... i dont know how to format MBR in order to have it clean
[00:03] <adoniram> need help concerning searching in dolphin
[00:04] <Moscowx> adoniram I listen to you
[00:04] <adoniram> all searches die unexpectly with the following error: "the process for the nepomuksearch protocol died unexpectedly"
[00:04] <adoniram> Moscowx thank you!
[00:05] <Moscowx> dolphin is shit
[00:05] <Moscowx> do not use it
[00:05] <adoniram> i like it when it works
[00:08] <adoniram> next question.  why can i not install skype from any repo?  (tried official skype repo and mediubuntu)
[00:10] <poiuytrew> i have a problem with the mouse cursor... always uses the default theme after logout (kde4)
[00:41] <tobiasz> hi there, what is the keyboard shortcut for minimalizing window?
[00:41] <tobiasz> and closing
[00:42] <tobiasz> alt+space shortcuts don't work in kde :(
[00:42] <Moscowx> open door
[00:42] <tobiasz> I always use them in gnome or windows
[00:44] <Moscowx> use moyuse
[00:45] <tobiasz> using mouse sucks
[00:45] <Moscowx> ))
[00:45] <tobiasz> slows things down
[00:45] <tobiasz> I always use shortcuts
[00:45] <Moscowx> alt+tab use
[00:45] <tobiasz> never do things by mouse
[00:45] <Moscowx> what is button space?
[00:46] <Moscowx> my keyboard dave not one
[00:46] <yofel> hm... keyboard shortcut for minimize...
[00:46] <tobiasz> Moscowx like the biggest button on keyboard lol, I see you're goofing off
[00:46] <yofel> lemme check if there is one
[00:47] <tobiasz> in gnome and windows os-es you can alt+space then press i to minimalize
[00:47] <Moscowx> BACKspace!!!!!!
[00:47] <tobiasz> in windows you can alt+m
[00:47] <Moscowx> is not SPACE
[00:47] <tobiasz> lmao Moscowx
[00:47] <Moscowx> FUCK
[00:48] <Moscowx> NOBODY KNOW SPACE-FUCKING-SHIT BUTTON
[00:48] <tsimpson> !language | Moscowx
[00:48] <Moscowx> INPUT YOUR BUTTON IN YOUR ASS
[00:48] <yofel> tobiasz: there isn't one by default, but you can set one
[00:49] <tobiasz> yofel funny thing :) I though such complete enviroment would have one by default, awesome thing I can set my own tho :)
[00:50] <yofel> tobiasz: check in keyboard settings -> global keyboard shortcuts the shortcuts for kwin
[00:55] <zewm> hey all
[00:56] <philipp_> wie instailiere ich flash player auf kubuntu??
[00:57] <zewm> philipp_, theres a open flash player ands then theres macromedias or whatever's one
[00:58] <zewm> adobe sorry
[00:59] <zewm> flashplugin-installer - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[00:59] <zewm> flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package)
[00:59] <zewm> maybe i dreamt the open one :)
[00:59] <philipp_> what is an altarnative? i want to look youtube
[00:59] <zewm> yeah im trying to get that working too, everyone else has, but sound wont work
[00:59] <AnthonyZbierajew> hi all
[01:00] <zewm> in theory, the adobe one should just work
[01:00] <zewm> it works here, but not the sound because i cant get sound going at all
[01:00] <philipp_> how to instalation?
[01:00] <Moscowx> good
[01:01] <zewm> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[01:01] <zewm> into Konsole
[01:01] <philipp_> ????
[01:02] <zewm> what program do u use to iunstall programs
[01:03] <philipp_> arrrk
[01:03] <philipp_> *ark
[01:04] <zewm> well get into the add/remove programs tool you use
[01:04] <zewm> search for flashplugin
[01:04] <zewm> i dont know of any others, besides going to the Adobe site and dowjnload the i386 binary there
[01:04] <zewm> for linux
[01:05] <zewm> i dont really know what programme is used these days for packages, so i just use the shell
[01:06] <philipp_> where i can get shell
[01:07] <zewm> you just type terminal into the KStart button menu
[01:07] <zewm> or konsole
[01:07] <zewm> should pop an icon up..
[01:08] <zewm> should say something like /home/yourname$
[01:08] <zewm> o n a black window
[01:11] <philipp_> bash: flashplugin: command not found
[01:38] <dorkface> Hi all.  I am curious, is it possible to run a shell script from the command dialog (alt+f2), and if so, how?  I've set the permission on the script to "rwx" for the owner, so it shouldn't be a permission issue
[01:39] <Moscowx> а?
[01:40] <Riddell> dorkface: it'll run but it won't show the output (unless the script itself runs GUI items)
[01:40] <dorkface> Riddell: ah, ok.  I was curious, because when I pressed enter, the window didn't disappear, so I didn't think the item executed
[01:41] <Riddell> dorkface: better to run it from konsole
[01:42] <dorkface> actually, I know it didn't work
[01:43] <dorkface> because it was just a script that was designed to just start a program in wine from any directory
[01:44] <semisided1> xterm -e "scriptname"
[01:47] <semisided1> but the window might not stay open if the program exits
[01:47] <semisided1> i just had a similar query
[01:50] <semisided1> xterm -e "script;sleep 10"
[01:50] <semisided1> if the script exits and window closes too fast
[01:51] <sebastian> hey guys, i just installed kubuntu, and i use EATJ ati 4670 asus, but i cant activate the driver under hardware drivers, and i cant find anyother driver for it, how do i make my card work for games?
[01:51] <sebastian> EAH*
[02:05] <Guest86782> #ubuntu_ru
[02:08] <raug> Anybody know spanish?
[02:09] <raug> spanish? Español? Ayuda!!!!
[02:09] <zewm> ci
[02:09] <raug> q tal zewm como estas?
[02:09] <zewm> no i mean thats the only word i know
[02:09] <zewm> hahaha
[02:09] <zewm> i was being a dork
[02:09] <zewm> sorry
[02:09] <raug> mmmmmmm jajjaaj
[02:09] <raug> ok
[02:10] <zewm> all the spanish words i know i dont know how to spell
[02:10] <raug> i will try to speak in english
[02:10] <zewm> use google language tools
[02:10] <zewm> it might look a bit like broken english but we'll undersstand
[02:11] <raug> do you can help me? with languaje D?
[02:11] <zewm> im not sure what language D is?
[02:11] <raug> the evolution of C++
[02:12] <raug> www.digitalmars.com
[02:12] <zewm> o siento, no sé de programaciónn
[02:12] <zewm> lo siento*
[02:12] <raug> ok jajaja
[02:12] <raug> ntp=no te preocupes, dont worry
[02:13] <zewm> #c++
[02:13] <zewm> muchas personas en esa habitación
[02:14] <zewm> room/channel
[02:14] <raug> Do you know someone who knows programming in this chat?
[02:15] <zewm> no lo siento, did you try #c++
[02:15] <zewm> /join #c++
[02:15] <raug> yes
[02:16] <raug> but i want to learn D
[02:16] <zewm> durmiendo todo el mundo?
[02:16] <raug> asi parece
[02:16] <raug> where are you from?
[02:16] <zewm> australia
[02:16] <zewm> and you?
[02:16] <raug> México
[02:17] <zewm> great, i'm going there in may
[02:17] <raug> you are welcome
[02:17] <raug> !!
[02:18] <zewm> be my first time out of australia
[02:18] <raug> OO, que Bien, Very Goog
[02:18] <zewm> trying to learn the language, but its hard to spell words i know
[02:19] <zewm> easier to say
[02:19] <raug> yes
[02:19] <raug> im trying to learn english too
[02:19] <raug> je
[02:20] <zewm> me encante el language, sounde sexe
[02:20] <zewm> but hard for me to write/read
[02:20] <zewm> i watch the spanish tv channels hehe
[02:21] <raug> ¿enserio? really? my english teacher say the same
[02:21] <zewm> with inglese subtitle
[02:21] <raug> is a goo technique
[02:21] <raug> how old are you?
[02:21] <zewm> 25
[02:22] <zewm> ¿y uste?
[02:22] <raug> 22
[02:22] <zewm> where in mehxico do you live
[02:23] <raug> Chiapas, SanCristobal de las Casas
[02:23] <zewm> i will look on map
[02:23] <raug> ok
[02:25] <zewm> encontro mapa
[02:25] <zewm> belo paiis
[02:25] <zewm> want to go there now
[02:26] <zewm> i want to go all over the world one day
[02:26] <raug> jjeje mexico has eveything
[02:26] <zewm> but mehxico first
[02:27] <zewm> everywhere i go excepot USA
[02:27] <raug> why?
[02:27] <zewm> dont think i can go there
[02:27] <raug> but why
[02:27] <zewm> penal registro
[02:28] <raug> aa ok ok
[02:28] <zewm> not bad...
[02:28] <zewm> no prision time
[02:29] <raug> creo que entiendo
[02:29] <raug> and
[02:29] <raug> what do you do?
[02:29] <zewm> just when young, sold drogas to policia\
[02:29] <raug> enserio?
[02:29] <raug> really?
[02:30] <zewm> just MDMA, no coca
[02:30] <zewm> i had to pick up garbage
[02:30] <zewm> as my sentence
[02:30] <raug> how many time?
[02:30] <zewm> hard to get prision time here, must be murder, violence or sex assault
[02:31] <zewm> 60 hours
[02:31] <zewm> also people who smuggle coca and herione into country =  prison
[02:31] <raug> and was a good lesson?
[02:32] <zewm> i think its good, better to be put in prison
[02:32] <snarkster> anyone know how to test why I have no sound in java apps?
[02:32] <zewm> better than prison i mean
[02:32] <snarkster> I goto youtube no sound, but i can play music in amarok and hear it
[02:32] <zewm> we all make mistake
[02:32] <zewm> i will be very careful in mehico though
[02:32] <zewm> snarkster, i have the same problemo
[02:33] <zewm> everyone sleeping
[02:33] <snarkster> what have you done to try to resolve it?
[02:33] <raug> si eso espero, algunos o muchos turistas les gusta venir a mexico a hacer desastres
[02:33] <zewm> everything lol
[02:34] <dodger-afk> snarkster: youtube is all flash... there used to be a few issues surrounding flash and audio - are you running flash player 9  or 10?
[02:34] <snarkster> like what?
[02:34] <zewm> me comporto en Mehxico, respetar el derecho
[02:34] <snarkster> dont know
[02:34] <raug> ok amigo
[02:35] <raug> hey i have to go
[02:35] <dodger-afk> snarkster: running 9.10?
[02:35] <zewm> turista muchos van a comprar la coca, se arriesgan a largo prision
[02:35] <snarkster> yup
[02:35] <zewm> adios amigo
[02:35] <snarkster> so version 10
[02:35] <raug> i hope to see you here
[02:35] <raug> bye
[02:35] <zewm> se han divertido mucho
[02:36] <zewm> bye
[02:36] <snarkster> any clue as to what to do to fix the sound problem
[02:36] <zewm> mate ive tried everything hey.
[02:36] <zewm> what sound card do u have
[02:37] <zewm> type lspci -l into konsole
[02:37] <dodger> snarkster: looking into it
[02:37] <zewm> i mean lspci
[02:37] <zewm> no -l
[02:37] <zewm> i dont even have ANY sound on my linux
[02:38] <snarkster> rs780 Azailia
[02:38] <zewm> cant even play an MP3?  what is the commonly used sound driver/sound engine on kubuntu kde
[02:38] <zewm> 0:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[02:38] <zewm> thats mine
[02:38] <zewm> the onboard sound
[02:38] <dodger> snarkster: run alsamixer in a terminal; the top left corner should list your default sound card, is it using the right one?
[02:39] <zewm>  Chip: Realtek ALC889A
[02:39] <zewm> thats obviously wrong how do i change it
[02:39] <snarkster> its using HDA ATI SB
[02:39] <zewm> hallo amigo
[02:39] <raug> hola denuevo
[02:40] <dodger> snarkster: sounds like an integrated sound chip, are you on a laptop?
[02:40] <snarkster> yes I am
[02:40] <dodger> ok, in alsamixer, is the PCM bar unmuted and the volume turned up?
[02:41] <zewm> how far up is safe
[02:41] <zewm> and how do u tell if its unmuted?
[02:41] <dodger> if it's muted, the two numbers in the bottom of the bar will turn to 'MM'
[02:42] <zewm> thanks
[02:42] <zewm> mine was right down
[02:42] <zewm> i was using a different mixer, global something perhaps?
[02:42] <zewm> something audio but anyway,
[02:42] <snarkster> yes it is
[02:43] <snarkster> the last time this happened I resintalled
[02:43] <snarkster> I do not want that to happen.
[02:44] <zewm> never reinstall on linux it can be fixed :P
[02:44] <zewm> might take hours and hours in irc rooms and googling but it will ridse from the dead
[02:45] <dodger> snarkster: do you have pulseaudio installed?
[02:45] <zewm> does pulseaudio stop asla working
[02:46] <snarkster> no i dont think i do
[02:46] <dodger> it shouldn't, but on some systems people have issues with it
[02:46] <zewm> i might try removing it
[02:46] <zewm> how do u find out if alsa is the default
[02:46] <snarkster> yes i have pulseaudio
[02:46] <dodger> snarkster: are you on karmic 64bit or 32bit?
[02:46] <snarkster> 32
[02:47] <dodger> hmm
[02:47] <snarkster> should i remove pulseaudio
[02:47] <dodger> there's a number of suggestions out there, removing pulse is one of them
[02:48] <dodger> alternatively, try opening pavucontrol and look into the playback tab while playing a youtube video
[02:48] <snarkster> then its removed, but i dont remember installing it
[02:48] <dodger> see if it's showing the flash player
[02:48] <snarkster> i dont have pavucontrol
[02:49] <dodger> it's in a separate package, you may have to install it
[02:49] <dodger> sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[02:49] <snarkster> sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[02:49] <snarkster> duh wrong window
[02:50] <zewm> damn   Please note that you should not have any sound drivers active when you want to use the ALSA drivers. If you have a kernel with sound drivers compiled in, you'll need a kernel recompilation    -- is that true
[02:51] <zewm> unless installing kubuntu recompiles the kernel, i should have the normal kernel from the CD
[02:52] <dodger> zewm: you shouldn't ever *have* to recompile the kernel yourself
[02:52] <snarkster> ok so the meter moves when the youtbe video plays
[02:52] <zewm> i used to back on deb 2.2 each release
[02:52] <dodger> snarkster: good; there's a button that shows a sound device
[02:53] <dodger> when you click on it, you should get a list of output devices
[02:53] <dodger> make sure it's set to the correct output device
[02:54] <dodger> for example, if your laptop has an hdmi port, it's possible that it'll try outputting via hdmi audio instead, and the hdmi audio will show up as a separate output device
[02:55] <snarkster> well ive never used this
[02:55] <snarkster> i dont know what im looking at here
[02:55] <zewm> doesnt seem like u can control the output device
[02:55] <snarkster> what tab do i look at
[02:55] <snarkster> it is going to the hdmi output
[02:56] <snarkster> how do i change that?
[02:56] <dodger> in the playback tab
[02:56] <snarkster> there is no button
[02:56] <dodger> in the section where the vu meter for the flash player is
[02:56] <dodger> to the left of the little speaker icon
[02:56] <dodger> sec, i'll show you what it looks like here
[02:57] <snarkster> i have a mute button on system sounds a mute button on alsa plug-in [firefox] alsa playback and a question mark button
[02:58] <dodger> http://i50.tinypic.com/w165ba.jpg
[02:58] <dodger> for me, it says 'internal audio analog surround 7.1'
[02:58] <snarkster> there is no button there on mine
[02:58] <dodger> if i click on that, i get a list of output devices
[03:00] <zewm> wow.. mine wont even show amarok on the list
[03:00] <snarkster> yah neather does min..
[03:00] <dodger> snarkster: can you post a screenshot of yours?
[03:01] <snarkster> I get a pidgen for a few sconds
[03:01] <snarkster> i have to install that application
[03:02] <snarkster> yah i got the shot how do i get it to you
[03:02] <zewm> tinypic
[03:02] <zewm> .com
[03:03] <snarkster> http://tinypic.com/r/242a4if/6
[03:04] <snarkster> now it doesnt show anything
[03:06] <snarkster> this is just mind boggling
[03:06] <zewm> least u have SOME sound man
[03:06] <zewm> lol
[03:06] <zewm> i have nothing
[03:10] <snarkster> why do we have to turn to gnome shit to debug sound problems
[03:11] <semisided1> ok, install gnome, kubutu and everything and i have had sound problems but removing pulse was never the solution
[03:11] <semisided1> pavucontrol or whatever it is worked
[03:12] <semisided1> jsut because gnome does not have a glassy look does not make it shit
[03:12] <zewm> the newest kde is shit as well
[03:12] <semisided1> i am using xfce right now
[03:12] <semisided1> whatever, its not windows
[03:12] <zewm> ive dist up'd mine and it still has problems with stuff dissapearing ojn the "taskbar"
[03:12] <semisided1> so lets not go there
[03:13] <zewm> widgets going missing and all this stuff
[03:13] <zewm> i hate windows
[03:13] <snarkster> my apologies
[03:13] <zewm> at least kde3 worked tho
[03:13] <zewm> :)
[03:13] <snarkster> i have nothing aginst gnome
[03:13] <zewm> cough gtk cough
[03:13] <snarkster> just figured kde would have the same functions as gnome
[03:13] <semisided1> i use xfce lately, sometimes wmaker, but rarely kde or gnome
[03:13] <semisided1> haha
[03:13] <semisided1> i think xfce is a gnome project though
[03:13] <semisided1> dunno
[03:14] <zewm> i use amiwm
[03:14] <semisided1> i had a bit of a hiatus from linux
[03:14] <semisided1> sadly
[03:14] <snarkster> so far as it seems none of these apps do anything with the hardware
[03:14] <semisided1> but i am back now
[03:14] <zewm> same
[03:14] <zewm> never used to have problems besides when debian testing broke for maybe a day
[03:14] <semisided1> the reason for me was women
[03:14] <semisided1> hahaha
[03:14] <zewm> i became a drug addict
[03:15] <zewm> lol
[03:15] <semisided1> been tghere
[03:15] <zewm> now im nerding it up again
[03:15] <semisided1> my drug of choice is weed
[03:15] <semisided1> but am off it now, but it is hard because it is accepted so much now
[03:15] <zewm> i smoked that for five years, i quit for a girl, and when i quit is when i went psychotic lol
[03:16] <semisided1> ya, my girl fed me weed to keep me happy
[03:16] <zewm> everything was... too much to handle..
[03:16] <semisided1> cover the issues
[03:16] <zewm> its a bit like that eh, glad i stopped
[03:16] <semisided1> man, i used to have programming jobs and now i have a crim record and cant get a job picking garbage
[03:16] <semisided1> drugs ruin lives even weed
[03:17] <semisided1> my brain does not work worth shit anymore
[03:17] <semisided1> my own fault
[03:17] <zewm> i got my records in another state so it doesnt matter
[03:17] <zewm> a state that doesnt share info
[03:17] <zewm> they wrent for weed tho, never got charged any time getting caught with that, they would let me keep it or be assholes and rub it into the ground with their feet
[03:18] <zewm> lol
[03:18] <semisided1> weed had nothing to do with my dumb violent ass getting charged
[03:18] <zewm> my first attempt to sell a hard drug ever, i sold it to an undercover police... how funny is that
[03:18] <semisided1> well, other than i t made me more unstable
[03:18] <zewm> do u spin it with tobacco?
[03:19] <zewm> did u rather
[03:19] <semisided1> sometimes
[03:19] <semisided1> depends on how it burned
[03:19] <semisided1> if it was too dry or too wet i would
[03:19] <zewm> yeah, i always used baccy
[03:19] <zewm> it makes ripping a bong so much more addictive
[03:19] <semisided1> the french people here in canada all mix with tabacco
[03:19] <zewm> so when u quit u go thru weed and tobacco m withdrawl
[03:19] <zewm> yeah same - in australia here
[03:20] <zewm> flootenkerp, thats an awesome name
[03:20] <zewm> :d
[03:20] <zewm> :D
[03:20] <flootenkerp> Thanks.
[03:20] <zewm> love it
[03:21] <flootenkerp> lol. Glad you like it.
[03:22] <semisided1> i used to swear by slakware, then i switched to debian for a few years and i just picked up ubuntu a few months ago and i am happy with it
[03:23] <semisided1> the main reason i use ubuntu is so that i can use what i might encounter out there in the world if i ever leave my own little relm
[03:24] <semisided1> i dont like any of the package managers though, i just like apt-get, it rocks
[03:37] <Bonster_> how u reload all the plasmoid? if it crashes
[03:39] <zewm> ah wel;l; FUCK THIS
[03:39] <zewm> im just going to fucking get an axe and smash everything
[03:39] <zewm> im beyong pissed off now
[03:42] <Bonster_> oh wow no1 here?
[04:13] <semisided1> not really
[04:35] <dedjaran> h
[04:36] <dedjaran> anybody else having problems with desktop effects ant ati
[04:41] <ilumi> !ownership
[04:41] <ilumi> !chmod
[05:06] <ilumi> im trying to chown a folder and im getting a no such directory
[05:08] <|sysop|> stupid question how to a get to the ati control panel in 9.10?
[05:09] <|sysop|> reboot
[06:27] <the-erm> Hi I downloaded a netbook .iso and I'm not sure how to get it onto a usb
[06:27] <the-erm> do you have a url where there are instructions?
[06:55] <Guest74166> hallo, gut morning /test
[06:57] <Guest74166> sorry only short...
[06:58] <Guest74166> did anyone now a Graphikprogramm to show the Numbers of Color that i need for joomla?
[07:03] <Guest60127> sorry goog bye
[07:32] <fel7pe> j
[07:37] <fel7pe> h
[07:42] <subito> hi, how can i sync my clock?
[07:45] <petsounds> subito, just set your time zone
[07:46] <subito> petsounds: it was set but i got offline a few days and each time i booted on windows and came back the clock was going back one hour; then i was told to use ntpdate and now it's ok
[07:47] <petsounds> subito, sorry no idea but did you check your cmos battery?
[07:47] <subito> petsounds: cmos battery?
[07:48] <petsounds> subito, http://ramanathan.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/cmos_battery1.jpg
[07:49] <subito> petsounds: no i haven't
[07:51] <petsounds> subito, if it's old or more than 2 years you should replace the battery.
[07:52] <subito> petsounds: no it's less than one year and i had this problem early when booting on windows and coming back to ubuntu
[07:56] <petsounds> subito, sorry mate, no idea, never had that problem before but keep asking, somebody else will know the answer :)
[07:56] <dodger> subito: it sounds like windows is interpreting the hardware clock's time differently, thinks it's wrong, and then sets it when it gets a time from a time server
[07:56] <dodger> then when you go back to linux, it reads the time from the hardware clock and is an hour short because it interprets the value differently
[07:57] <subito> petsounds: thanks
[07:57] <subito> dodger: maybe :)
[07:57] <FireCrotch> subito: I believe there's a registry setting in windows that you can set to force windows to use UTC
[08:04] <PCdoc> hi
[08:04] <subito> FireCrotch: ok thanks
[08:05] <dodger> subito: to make kde get time from an ntp server, click on your clock in kde, go to time & date settings, NTP, and check 'set time and date automatically'
[08:05] <PCdoc> I Just downloaded the i386 version of kubuntu 9.10 and burned it to the cd. When I try to boot from LIVE cd to try the kubuntu version.. it sends me to the command prompt after a while.
[08:06] <PCdoc> can anyone help me why is this happening?
[08:08] <dodger> PCDoc: sounds like maybe the driver for your graphics card isn't working off the live cd - what kind of video card do you have?
[08:09] <PCdoc> I have onboard Via chipset drivers ... m using AMD Sempron processor
[08:09] <PCdoc> on MSI motherboard
[08:10] <PCdoc> I am right now on ubuntu 9.10 .. insstalled and its working since 2-3months
[08:11] <PCdoc> and I had also used the Live cd and tested ubuntu without having any problems
[08:11] <PCdoc> on the same machine
[08:11] <dodger> odd... when you type 'startx' from the terminal, you should get an error message, maybe that'll help?
[08:11] <dodger> the drivers should be the same between ubuntu and kubuntu, if i'm not mistaken
[08:11] <PCdoc> the terminal ... u mean the kubuntu live cd one?
[08:12] <petsounds> !md5 > PCdoc
[08:12] <dodger> yeah
[08:13] <PCdoc> > petsounds, I have already done that
[08:13] <PCdoc> and its ok
[08:13] <PCdoc> i have the correct md5 hash
[08:16] <PCdoc> ok dodger, then I have to check the way u r saying by typing startx .. to start x server.. !! I'll return coz for this i need to reboot the system
[08:16] <PCdoc> BRB
[08:26] <subito> dodger: thanks, but why can't i casse "time & date" from my clock widget on the bottom right? i had to access it from system settings
[08:28] <dodger> subito: not sure - things may have changed, i'm running the 4.4 beta
[08:30] <subito> dodger-afk: i should update too
[08:34] <subito> how could i upgrade to kde 4.4 beta 2 with apt-get?
[08:34] <shadeslayer_> subito: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:35] <shadeslayer_> subito: you need to add the PPA though
[08:36] <subito> shadeslayer_: that one? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/ppa
[08:36] <shadeslayer_> subito: nope the one on kubuntu.org
[08:39] <subito> shadeslayer_: ok thanks; what would happen if i did sudo apt-get upgrade instead of dist-upgrade?
[08:40] <subito> and why is it said to install kubuntu-desktop afterwards? is that for those who don't have it?
[08:40] <shadeslayer_> subito: it would just keep back some important packages
[08:41] <shadeslayer_> and your system might break
[08:41] <shadeslayer_> it says to install kubuntu desktop later so that all packages are installed and something isnt left out
[08:41] <subito> yes,  190 not upgraded :d
[08:42] <subito> shadeslayer_: ok thanks
[08:42] <shadeslayer_> subito: no problem
[08:59] <fujimitsu> cant find anythng on google about what causes konqueror not to work with playlist.com
[09:00] <PCdoc> I Just downloaded the i386 version of kubuntu 9.10 and burned it to the cd. When I try to boot from LIVE cd to try the kubuntu version.. it sends me to the command prompt after a while.
[09:01] <fujimitsu> did you check md5sum before burning it...
[09:01] <PCdoc> yes.. it was correct
[09:02] <PCdoc> also if i reboot to try again from the cd it takes me to the GUI.. with blue background and the hard disk and one spanner icon appear
[09:02] <PCdoc> but then the screen starts blinking
[09:03] <PCdoc> on the command prompt if i type startx i m taken to the same GUI and the same blinking thing happens
[09:03] <fujimitsu> have you tried any other live cd or burned another copy..?
[09:04] <PCdoc> I m logged in on ubuntu 9.10 right now .. and I have also tried the ubuntu live cd before and it had no problems
[09:04] <PCdoc> i've been running ubuntu past 2-3 months
[09:05] <PCdoc> I burnt this kubuntu cd twice to check if there is no problem with the previous cd i burnt
[09:05] <PCdoc> but on both the cds the same problem occuring
[09:06] <fujimitsu> i've had issues with live cds as well.. it might be hardware conflict
[09:06] <PCdoc> but i guess the drivers used by ubuntu are same as of kubuntu ??
[09:06] <fujimitsu> try the alternate-cd
[09:06] <PCdoc> if ubuntu live cd and the installation is runnung without any problems
[09:07] <fujimitsu> its a text installer but it might work when gui doesnt
[09:07] <PCdoc> i read about alternate-cd, i think it doesnt have the live cd.. ??
[09:07] <PCdoc> but has a text installer
[09:09] <fujimitsu> well.. thats my 2 cents; am off to check if chromium does a better job than konqueror here
[09:10] <PCdoc> i used windows xp sp2 Nero burner to burn cds
[09:10] <fujimitsu> and iso is an iso.. but you might want to try k3b, think there is a windows version too
[09:15] <PCdoc> anyone there to help me with?
[09:47] <jaycakep> search
[09:50] <subito> i upgraded to kde 4.4 and now vuze says it's firewalled
[09:51] <shadeslayer> subito: would you like to completely turn off the firewall?
[09:52] <subito> shadeslayer: i don't know, is that a new feature of kde 4.4?
[09:53] <shadeslayer> subito: no.. ill give you a command to turn off ufw
[09:55] <subito> shadeslayer: but why is it 'on' now?
[09:55] <subito> i'll restart konveration it's taking 100% cpu
[09:56] <subito> it's still taking 100%; that's the moment when you regret having upgraded
[09:57] <shadeslayer> subito: hehe... i use irssi
[09:57] <subito> shadeslayer: do i uninstall ufw? is that recommended?
[09:58] <shadeslayer> subito: no thats not good
[09:58] <shadeslayer> subito: just do : sudo ufw disable
[09:58] <subito> shadeslayer: now it's stopped and disabled on system startup? is that recommended? :o
[09:59] <shadeslayer> subito: yes its perfectly fine not to have a firewall
[10:00] <shadeslayer> subito: now just restart vuze
[10:00] <shadeslayer> !iptables | subito
[10:01] <subito> shadeslayer: it has built-in capabilities but we just turned them off
[10:01] <shadeslayer> subito: incase you want to use the firewall
[10:01] <shadeslayer> subito: yes
[10:02] <shadeslayer> subito: they can be turned off or on,just like any service
[10:03] <shadeslayer> subito: ive gtg,cya later :)
[10:30] <alokito> is there a window transparency plugin in kwin like compiz?
[10:31] <alokito> like in compiz, I can make a window transparent by Alt+Mouse Scroll
[10:32] <alokito> anyone there?
[10:34] <paulsomebody__> alokito: Be patient. Yes there is.
[10:34] <alokito> paulsomebody__, okay, waiting....
[10:35] <paulsomebody__> alokito: You could configure that in 'Windows Behaviour'.
[10:35] <alokito> checking
[10:36] <paulsomebody__> alokito: Window Behaviour > Window Actions > Modifier Key, Mouse Wheel
[10:37] <alokito> paulsomebody__, yup, got it
[10:37] <alokito> thanks :D
[10:37] <paulsomebody__> alokito: You are welcome.
[10:50] <leo> in the grub menu there are a entry called server mode, but it doesn't run why?
[10:51] <leo> it is installed by default
[10:52] <Bernardo> hi guys
[10:53] <Bernardo> I am having some strange behaviours in kubuntu 9.10 after a crash
[10:53] <Bernardo> The first I solved - knetworkmanager always showed "network disabled", I installed nm-applet and enabled the network there
[10:54] <Bernardo> the second is that now it always hangs kwin/x when resuming
[10:54] <Bernardo> only magiq-k kills x and lets me login again
[10:55] <Bernardo> this is a gma500, but I had it fine tuned (and still is, I can watch 1280p videos using vaapi), but I admit it might be less supported... :)
[10:59] <Bernardo> any idea on how to start debugging the hanging problem? Xorg.0.log.old and /var/log/messages don't have anything significant
[11:00] <Bernardo> other than the SAK
[11:04] <_2> i have a cdrom.iso in my home that i would like konqueror to be able to browse.  is there a kio or file:// protocal that can handle that or do i have to loop mount it each time?
[11:04] <modar> hi
[11:05] <modar> what is the best programming language for linux?
[11:05] <maco> thre is no best
[11:05] <maco> however an *easy* language to pick up if you're new is probably python
[11:05] <_2> bash
[11:05] <maco> it has bindings for both gtk/gnome and qt/kde
[11:06] <maco> now, if my linux you literally mean the kernel, then the only answer is C
[11:06] <maco> (well a few assembly languages too, but...we'll ignore those)
[11:06] <modar> bash?? is it emmbeded or i have to install it?
[11:07] <maco> bash is the shell
[11:07] <maco> a bash script is like a batch file on windows, if you're familiar with that
[11:07] <maco> (.bat)
[11:09] <modar> i am c# programmer but at windows >>>can i do it at linux?
[11:10] <maco> sure, use mono
[11:10] <maco> its a foss implementation of the CLR so you can keep using your C# skills instead of having to relearn
[11:11] <modar> thank you.
[11:24] <Icari|mac> does anyone here have expirence with a broadcom wireless card?
[11:39] <eviljoker> hi, is there someone who has programming with javascript plasmoid? I've copied the kde example but it doesn't work...
[11:45] <marcos> oi
[11:45] <marcos> tem alguem ai ?
[11:49] <PCdoc> I Just downloaded the i386 version of kubuntu 9.10 and burned it to the cd. When I try to boot from LIVE cd to try the kubuntu version.. it sends me to the command prompt after a while.
[11:49] <PCdoc> and if I reboot, it loads the GUI but the GUI screen keeps on blinking at startup
[11:49] <PCdoc> and continues or hangs
[11:52] <PCdoc> is any one there to help ?
[11:52] <subitoo> PCdoc: why not try the alternate cd?
[11:54] <PCdoc> subitoo: i asked this same question around 2hrs ago and some one sujjested me this to try alternate cd!! but I read on the kubuntu website that the alternate cd does not have the live cd version and  has a text based installer
[11:54] <PCdoc> i want to try kubuntu before installng it
[11:54] <PCdoc> right now i m on ubuntu 9.10
[11:54] <PCdoc> using ubuntu since around 2months
[11:55] <mostafa_> how can I create an ISO file from the local hard disk files?
[11:55] <PCdoc> mostafa: use cd burning software like Nero
[11:55] <PCdoc> of windows xp
[11:55] <PCdoc> in*
[11:55] <subitoo> PCdoc: you could try intalling kde; and then if you don't like it, uninstall it?
[11:56] <PCdoc> subitoo: if i install kde and i dun like it will i be able to get back to my ubuntu with everythng unchanged?
[11:56] <PCdoc> i dun wanna install ubuntu all over again
[11:57] <subitoo> PCdoc: i don't think that there will be a problem. you just have to install kubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <PCdoc> from synaptic manager?
[11:58] <alexander_> no install ubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <alexander_> yes
[11:58] <alexander_> with synaptic
[11:58] <PCdoc> ubuntu i m already on
[11:58] <alexander_> ah ok
[11:58] <alexander_> athen kubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <alexander_> hen you have kde
[11:59] <alexander_> and on login you can change if you ant to start gnome or kde
[11:59] <subitoo> PCdoc: you can also type 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' on a terminal
[11:59] <PCdoc> I have tried then... when i choose KDE it tries to log me in and immidiately logs me out
[11:59] <alexander_> hmmm
[11:59] <subitoo> PCdoc: what does the terminal say when you type 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'?
[12:00] <Klanticus> hello.. may someone help me changing the screen resolution?
[12:00] <Icari|mac> does anyone here have expirence with a broadcom wireless card?
[12:00] <PCdoc> Reading package lists... Done
[12:00] <PCdoc> Building dependency tree
[12:00] <PCdoc> Reading state information... Done
[12:00] <PCdoc> kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[12:00] <PCdoc> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 182 not upgraded.
[12:00] <FloodBotK1> PCdoc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:01] <subitoo> should he type 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[12:03] <PCdoc> i typed sudo apt-get dist-upgrade kubuntu-desktop
[12:03] <PCdoc> it gave me a huge list of archives to be downloaded
[12:03] <PCdoc> Need to get 163MB of archives.
[12:03] <PCdoc> asking me for yes or no
[12:03] <Icari|mac> i am trying to get a broadcom wireless card to connect to my wireless network, it can see the network but not connect even with the correct password using knetworkmanager, any ideas?
[12:04] <subitoo> you should ask for someone else to know if you can enter yes :p
[12:05] <PCdoc> 163MB is too much.. i have 256kbps net speed
[12:05] <PCdoc> will take time to download
[12:08] <Klanticus> may anyone help me changing the screen resolution in KDE?
[12:10] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[12:14] <subitoo> the maximum resolution i have is 1366*768, is there a way to increase that?
[12:19] <micz> hello new to this if i am here hello??
[12:21] <Oreaoxx> hey,plz anyone help me!
[12:21] <micz> hello
[12:22] <micz> dunno about help everyone are away or asleep
[12:22] <micz> loadsa names but they busy or asleep
[12:22] <micz> what is your problem may be able to help ya??
 do u know how to install update??
[12:23] <micz> 1386 or amd 64
[12:24] <Oreaoxx> 1386
[12:24] <micz> put the disc in and do via update in ultamatix
[12:24] <micz> do you have ultamatix
[12:24] <Oreaoxx> no
[12:25] <micz> you have just the old version 1386 desktop an not ultimate edition
[12:25] <Oreaoxx> im use kubuntu 9.10
[12:26] <micz> if you are using it u have karmic koala
[12:27] <micz> v9.10
[12:27] <Oreaoxx> its mean k.d
[12:27] <Oreaoxx> KDE
[12:27] <micz> yes in the toolbar near to spkr icon
[12:28] <micz> do you have yrkk or yark looks like newspaper
[12:28] <Oreaoxx> klipper
[12:28] <micz> icon flash red with left click and refresh
[12:29] <micz> no not klipper
[12:29] <Oreaoxx> how we get it
[12:29] <micz> listen you have system menu in kde yes
[12:30] <micz> via synaptic
[12:30] <micz> u have synaptic or kpackage
[12:30] <Oreaoxx> i have kpakage kit
[12:30] <micz> if not install via root shell apt-get install kpackage after first running apt-get update
[12:31] <micz> diffrent
[12:31] <Oreaoxx> in terminal
[12:31] <micz> i think is for .deb packages
[12:31] <micz> no worries you have system menu
[12:32] <Oreaoxx> tar.bz2        --its extention
[12:32] <micz> yes listen sorry try kpackagekit
[12:32] <Oreaoxx> ok
[12:33] <micz> click settings in kpackage kit and there if you have the cd or dvd straight tick button
[12:34] <micz> i would try but i only updated yesterday and today woken up to find my isp has cutted me off
[12:34] <micz> ashholesss
[12:34] <Oreaoxx> oh
[12:34] <micz> hahaha but as i am linux they cannot turn me off
[12:35] <micz> ahhhh the benefits of being not dim winnows
[12:35] <Oreaoxx> i want to update ktorrent
[12:35] <Oreaoxx> i have update files
[12:35] <micz> so update it via synaptic to see versions
[12:36] <micz> do u have synaptic or get a root shell up n type pass in there put "apt-get update"
[12:37] <micz> then type "apt-get install synaptic"
[12:37] <micz> copy that omit "
[12:37] <Oreaoxx> im new user kubuntu
[12:38] <Oreaoxx> where is synaptic??
[12:38] <Oreaoxx> in application
[12:39] <Klanticus> may anyone help me changing the screen resolution in KDE?
[12:39] <xorred> need urgent help - vlc sparks on mp3s (and every sound whatsoever) - can't fix in any way and NY party is tonight!!!!!!!
[12:40] <Oreaoxx> micz-- hey
 ???????????????????????
 wt happen u
[12:44] <Oreaoxx> wotan> do u know how to install update
[12:48] <paulsomebody_> xorred: What is the purpose of using VLC? Use audio player such as Amarok instead.
[12:48] <paulsomebody_> Oreaoxx: Don't scream. What's your problem?
[12:48] <froud> anyone got a lenovo y710 and found the dvd is not identified when installing 9.10
[12:49] <xorred> VLC has 200% volume option
[12:49] <xorred> Amarok doesn't have the option to preamp
[12:49] <Oreaoxx> paulsomebody>> i want to install update file
[12:49] <paulsomebody_> xorred: Okay. Try launching it with 'in terminal' option. What errors are displayed?
[12:50] <xorred> I tried even with strace option, no errors
[12:50] <xorred> just sparking sound all over
[12:50] <paulsomebody_> Oreaoxx: An update?
[12:50] <Oreaoxx> ya
[12:50] <paulsomebody_> xorred: Sparking? Can't understand you.
[12:51] <Oreaoxx> ktorrnts update file
[12:51] <xorred> it is... distorted
[12:51] <xorred> any other player works
[12:51] <xorred> just not vlc
[12:51] <paulsomebody_> Oreaoxx: Open KPackageKit and update, what is the problem? If you are seeking Synaptic, it isn't installed by default.
[12:51] <xorred> I tried apt-get --purge removing, doesn't help
[12:51] <xorred> tried changing to alsa, pulseaudio, oss - same
[12:52] <paulsomebody_> xorred: Everywhere or just VLC?
[12:52] <xorred> only vlc
[12:52] <xorred> tried removing all vlc related plugins, etc - same
[12:52] <xorred> I can't imagine what is going on
[12:52] <xorred> was ok few days ago
[12:52] <paulsomebody_> xorred: Re-install VLC? Check it's settings?
[12:52] <xorred> no, reinstalled
[12:52] <Oreaoxx> im new user , where is Synaptic place
[12:52] <xorred> I even reset all settings to default
[12:53] <xorred> paulsomebody_: it's something so weird I can't imagine where to look at already
[12:53] <jimmy_> you use kubuntu?
[12:53] <paulsomebody_> Oreaoxx: I told you, it isn't installed by default, use KPackageKit.
[12:53] <Oreaoxx> oh
[12:53] <jimmy_> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[12:53] <jimmy_> use this order to install
[12:54] <paulsomebody_> xorred: Hmm. What audio output does it use?
[12:54] <xorred> now - pulseaudio
[12:54] <xorred> but it's the same with all - alsa, etc
[12:54]  * froud thinks KpackageKit was a bad choice for default package manager
[12:55] <jimmy_> agree
[12:55] <paulsomebody> froud: Sufficient for most operations, but indeed buggy.
[12:55] <jimmy_> how to reset kubuntu?
[12:56] <jimmy_> i don't reinstall it
[12:56] <paulsomebody> xorred: I don't know now. Google search? Maybe you should try specific help channel, like #vlc?
[12:56] <jimmy_> oh,ok
[12:56] <paulsomebody> xorred: I meant #vlc .
[12:56] <xorred> no #vlc
[12:56] <xorred> and I googled a lot...
[12:57] <paulsomebody> xorred: Oops, indeed no such a channel.
[12:57] <Oreaoxx> jimmy> synaptic is not install and install it now
[12:57] <jimmy_> kubuntu no install synaptic default
[12:58] <Oreaoxx> yes
[12:58] <paulsomebody> xorred: Try looking at their site. http://www.videolan.org/support/
[12:58] <Klanticus> is there any way to prevent the network manager from messing with a specific interface?
[12:58] <paulsomebody> Klanticus: Specific interface?
[12:58] <jimmy_> what's?
[12:59] <Klanticus> paulsomebody: yes.. I don't want it to control just eth0. The other's are ok
[12:59] <Oreaoxx> installing now
[12:59] <paulsomebody> Klanticus: Dy defaults it uses everything it finds, what is the problem?
 im trying to send private massage
[13:00] <jimmy_> private massage?
[13:00] <thocz> I have migrated from 6 LTS to 9.10, but now KDE Desktop appears always when rebooting with giant text
[13:01] <Klanticus> paulsomebody: eth0 has a manual confg with 5 ip adresses, but I didn't manage to do this from the applet. Also, looks like that config is only applied after the user logs in
[13:02] <paulsomebody> Klanticus: Then I can't help you.
[13:03] <jimmy_> i think i have to reinstall system,i install too many software,it's to slow.....
[13:03] <Klanticus> paulsomebody: is there any way to disable it, so I manual config all the interfaces?
[13:04] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: now 68% compleat
[13:04] <paulsomebody> jimmy_: There is no need to reinstall system, what about uninstalling software?
[13:05] <paulsomebody> Klanticus: I think there is, try to google.
[13:05] <jimmy_> ok
[13:05] <thocz> I cannot install Gnome Desktop because it says I need fast-user-switch-applet but is not installable, any idea please?
[13:07] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: its install compleat
[13:08] <Oreaoxx> jimmy:whats next step??
 i'm a new user,ubuntu will uninstall software clear?
[13:08] <paulsomebody> jimmy_: Yes, it will.
[13:08] <Oreaoxx> Oreaoxx: .
[13:09] <paulsomebody> jimmy_: Depending what you think to be clean.
 now you will find synaptic at system menu
[13:09] <jimmy_> oh
[13:10] <Oreaoxx> jimmy:ok
[13:11] <jimmy_> are you find it?
[13:11] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: yes
[13:12] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: then??
[13:12] <jimmy_> then?what do you want to do
[13:13] <Oreaoxx> i want to update my ktorrent program
[13:15] <paulsomebody> Oreaoxx: Then update it, what is the problem?
[13:16] <jimmy_> i don't know,maybe you can install a new version of ktorrent
[13:16] <Oreaoxx> paulsomebody: i trying now!
[13:17] <paulsomebody> Oreaoxx: Okay, what is the matter of informing us all about it? Is something going wrong?
[13:17] <jimmy_> the version of your ktorrent is low?
[13:18] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: yes
[13:19] <chris_> holla
[13:20] <jimmy_> what's the version of your ubuntu
[13:21] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: 9.10
[13:22] <jimmy_> Oreaoxx:it's the Latest
[13:23] <jimmy_> do you find new version ?
[13:23] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: im using kubuntu
[13:24] <Oreaoxx> KDE
[13:24] <jimmy_> me too
[13:24] <jimmy_> i know
[13:25] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: i found ktorrent new ver.
[13:25] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: i want to install it
[13:25] <paulsomebody> Is there a point in keeping a 8.6 GiB swap partition when I have 3 GiB of RAM? That size was chosen by  Kubuntu installer.
[13:25] <jimmy_> you can download then install
[13:26] <Klanticus> How do I change the screen resolution? the kde configuration utility don't let me go any higher than 800x600
[13:27] <lukefeil> Klanticus: tri Rand
[13:27] <lukefeil> *RandR
[13:27] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: i download it but i cant install it
[13:27] <jimmy_> oh?what's happen
[13:28] <Klanticus> lukefeil: lukefeil typing xrandr at the console give me a list of resolutions. 800x600 is the highest one
[13:29] <lukefeil> Klanticus: modify xorg.conf?
[13:29] <Oreaoxx> jimmy:ktorrent-3.3.2.tar.bz2     --its file name
[13:29] <jimmy_> then?
[13:29] <Klanticus> lukefeil: doensn't ubuntu overwrite it at boot time?
[13:30] <lukefeil> Klanticus: good question...
[13:30] <jimmy_> Oreaoxx:find order to unzip it
[13:31] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: click on file its open  Archiving
[13:31] <Klanticus> lukefeil: I can set it to a better resolution using the nvidia-settings, but when I reboot, it's back to 800x600 :/
[13:32] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: extract here
[13:32] <lukefeil> Klanticus: try to open nvidia-settings as sudo
[13:33] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: ok extracted
[13:33] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: then
[13:33] <Klanticus> lukefeil: already tried this. When I click to save to the xorg.conf, it dies
[13:33] <Klanticus> lukefeil: said it can't parse the file
[13:34] <Oreaoxx> jimmy: ????????????
[13:39] <Oreaoxx> paulsomebody: hey,
[13:40] <Oreaoxx> paulsomebody: u can help me???
[13:55] <leo> my deluge is very slow, some solutions?
[14:01] <paulsomebody_> leo: Deluge itself or downloads?
[14:06] <micz> have you ran ur localhost server
[14:12] <leo> downloadas
[14:15] <aruquest> hello
[14:16] <aruquest> anyone from malaysia in de channel
[14:17] <paulsomebody_> aruquest: This is Kubuntu, not geopolitical help.
[14:18] <aruquest> sorry dude, din mean that
[14:18] <aruquest> just gettin started
[14:18] <aruquest> i'd love to chat wit anyone
[14:21] <paulsomebody_> Then please go to the #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:24] <semisided1> i am using quassel irc and i can not figure out how to get a channel list when i type / list i get no response
[14:30] <semisided1> i figured it out, have to be on server node, not a channel when you type /list
[14:35] <Captain_Haddock> when I kill an application which is using too much memory, can I get a log or dump that might help in find out why it was using so much memory?
[15:07] <jason_> gmorning guys
[15:07]  * genii makes more coffee
[15:07] <jason_> got a question - is knetwork manager in the repos? I want to try out wicd (which auto uninstalls network manager) so I want to know where to grab knetwork manager if I want to revert back.
[15:08] <EagleScreen> jason_: it is easy, installing package: plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[15:08] <jason_> ah okay. I was looking in kpackagekit thinking it was in the repos or something
[15:08] <BluesKaj> jason_, it's in the repos as network-manager
[15:09] <jason_> ah
[15:09] <jason_> that pesky dash
[15:09] <BluesKaj> and the plasma widget too
[15:10] <jason_> good deal
[15:10] <jason_> if I wasnt imaging a ton of pcs right now I'd give it a shot now
[15:10] <jason_> last I used wicd I remember it randomly disconnecting my wireless every few minutes or so
[15:10] <jason_> but I want to give it another shot. It was extremely useful for me at work. Helped me manage positioning of different access points with the same SSID easy.
[15:11] <jason_> has anybody here used wicd?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> jason_, I'm using wicd on our laptop and it's working well, no disconnect problems at all.
[15:11] <EagleScreen> I used wicd, I didn't like it
[15:11] <jason_> blueskaj - have you used wicd with kubuntu for a while now?
[15:12] <jason_> eaglescreen - was you not liking it in regard to personal preference or actual useability issues you had with it?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> yes, about 6months
[15:12] <EagleScreen> jason_: it didn't work well for me
[15:12] <jason_> eaglescreen - you had connectivity issues with it?
[15:12] <EagleScreen> yes
[15:12] <BluesKaj> wicd provides wpa2 , wheres the network-manager only gives the wep option
[15:12] <jason_> but knetwork manager works fine for you?
[15:13] <jason_> network manager has wpa2
[15:13] <jason_> we have wpa2 on our one network at the middle school and I use it fine there
[15:13] <BluesKaj> odd, I couldn't find it
[15:13] <jason_> I think its a drop down option
[15:13] <jason_> but I think you're right - WEP is default unless you hit that box to bring up the othe roptions
[15:14] <BluesKaj> yeah, the drop down only has wep encryption
[15:14] <jason_> Ive got 5 options
[15:14] <BluesKaj> and a totally insecure
[15:15] <jason_> WEP, WPA personal/enterprise, WPA2 persona/enterprise, LEAP, and none
[15:15] <BluesKaj> well, wicd does the job for me
[15:15] <jason_> good stuff
[15:15] <jason_> I like the interface of wicd. Its 100% more useful than network manager. I cant remember why I left it though. I thought I remember it just dropping me off connections randomly.
[15:17] <BluesKaj> jason , somtimes cranking up your router power output helps
[15:17] <jason_> blueskaj - I cant "crank up router power" on our main wifi network like that though
[15:17] <BluesKaj> broadcast/reception
[15:17] <jason_> I had full signal
[15:17] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:17] <jason_> I had an access point right above my head
[15:17] <EagleScreen> jason_: having problems to connect under WPA?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> bummer
[15:18] <jason_> eaglescreen - when I was running WICD I was on a WPA2 network and I remember running into issues related to connections dropping off.
[15:18] <jason_> I'd be fine, working, on here typing to people, whatever, and blam it would say "activating..." for my wifi.
[15:18] <jason_> yet network manager never did that
[15:18] <jason_> but wicd is sooooooooo nice cause it gave me the signal strength of each individual access point in the area, so I could tell where I needed to add more APs or reposition them.
[15:18] <jason_> And so far I havent found an application that shows me individual access points like that except wicd.
[15:18] <EagleScreen> jason_: you hasve to try other knetworkmanager versions
[15:19] <Snarkfish> Good Morning
[15:19] <jason_> eaglescreen - for what? showing me different PAs?
[15:19] <jason_> whats up snark
[15:19] <Snarkfish> Im having a problem with the system-settings samba module. it doesnt open
[15:19] <jason_> system-config-samba?
[15:19] <Snarkfish> Im in 9.04 as 9.10 eats my server
[15:19] <BluesKaj> jason_, how long ago did you use wicd ?
[15:19] <jason_> blueskaj - about 6 weeks ago
[15:20] <jason_> yeah man. 9.10. :( :(
[15:20] <jason_> runs great on my laptop, failed on the other 4 desktops I tried to put it on
[15:20] <BluesKaj> hmm
[15:21] <BluesKaj> yeah, wicd is flaky with ralink , that could be part of the prob\
[15:21] <jason_> ralink?
[15:21] <Snarkfish> you know open system-settings goto advanced there is a smaba module. i click it and nothing happens
[15:21] <jason_> snark - youre on kubuntu right?
[15:21] <jason_> cause Ive only seen that module on fedora's KDE
[15:21] <Snarkfish> yes
[15:21] <jason_> how do I add it to kubuntu??
[15:22] <EagleScreen> jason_: are you using Kubuntu karmic?
[15:22] <Snarkfish> I have no idea. also when i goto share setting in properties i get the password screen but nothing happens
[15:22] <jason_> on this laptop yes
[15:22] <jason_> snarkfish - so that module came preinstalled?
[15:22] <Snarkfish> No Karmic hates this machine. Its jaunty
[15:22] <Snarkfish> 9.04
[15:23] <jason_> whaaat
[15:23] <jason_> I want that module :(
[15:23] <jason_> then I can see if it bombs out on me
[15:23] <BluesKaj> !ralink
[15:24] <jason_> yeah but, what IS ralink? I just never heard of it.
[15:24] <EagleScreen> jason_: KDE networkmanager wodget never worked for WAP in jaunty
[15:25] <Snarkfish> ralink is a network driver or card.
[15:25] <jason_> eaglescreen - are you sure about that? I only put karmic on this laptop about a month ago, and I never had wifi issuess with WPA2 and knetwork manager prior...
[15:25] <jason_> I never had wifi issues PERIOD exept me wanting to see individual APs in the area
[15:25] <jason_> which btw snark do you know of a tool that does that?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> it's a network card chipset I believe ..not sure , but there many cards from different companies that use it
[15:26] <jason_> ah I see
[15:26] <jason_> (btw Im still looking for that samba module, when I install it Ill let you know if it works for me)
[15:27] <BluesKaj> I have belkin usb that uses the rt series driver (ralink) and newest wicd doesn't work with it
[15:28] <Snarkfish> i just use knetworkmanager to see other AP's
[15:28] <EagleScreen> jason_: I never could to connect to a WPA in Jaunty using KDE widget for networkmanager
[15:28] <Snarkfish> any of you in here good with samba??
[15:28] <jason_> snarkfish - whats the issue exactly?
[15:28] <jason_> (Im at work so excuse slow responses)
[15:28] <Snarkfish> just making sure Im doing it right..
[15:29] <BluesKaj> rather than run more cat5/6 cable in the house , apita btw,I opted for the belkin , which worked fine on jaunty , but quit on karmic
[15:29] <EagleScreen> jason_: then you are now using jaunty, and you cannot connect to WPA?
[15:30] <jason_> eaglescreen - I could ALWAYS connect to WPA/WPA2. Im on Karmic now. Fresh install as of last week. My problem was, I used to use WICD instead of knetwork manager because WICD had more options I liked for wifi network managing with the bigger networks we have at work. But with WICD, sometimes I had connection issues. I could always connect fine - it would just drop off, unwarranted. KNetwork Manager never dropped me off like that.
[15:31] <jason_> snarkfish - well what wall are ya running into? I use samba heavily at home and have for 4-5 years now, but Im certainly no expert with it
[15:31] <EagleScreen> okay jason_
[15:31] <Snarkfish> on the stpes for samba.. 1 adduser to the system, 2 adduser to samba just works after that right?
[15:32] <EagleScreen> jason_: are you using the karmic wicd version in repository?
[15:33] <jason_> Im not using WICD.
[15:33] <jason_> I was just asking what other users thought about it recently.
[15:33] <jason_> Currently my karmic laptop (that Im on now) is being the image server for a lab of XP machines, reimaging the entire thing. So I dont wnat to screw around with it at the moment till theyre done :P
[15:33] <jason_> snarkfish - well you need a system user prior to using samba for that user.
[15:33] <Snarkfish> afk
[15:33] <jason_> snarkfish - so if you need jon to work with samba, add jon as a user to the linux box itself. Then add jon as a samba user.
[15:35] <froud> what am I missing. karmic 9.10, want to install skype. + Mediubuntu repo and keyring. apt-get update, apt-get install but skype is not found. Did I miss something?
[15:36] <buckethead> You already installed medibuntu?
[15:36] <froud> buckethead: added repo and keys to sources.list
[15:36] <Snarkfish> thought i said that. :)
[15:37] <Snarkfish> jason_ private?
[15:37] <jason_> snarkfish - pardon?
[15:37] <buckethead> You see a medibuntu listing when you do apt-get update?
[15:37] <buckethead> Hey, just verifying from one end to the other.
[15:38] <froud> buckethead: yes all repo's added incl google display
[15:38] <buckethead> Hm. Whats the response to apt-cache showpkg skype?
[15:39] <froud> buckethead: yep it sees it
[15:39] <buckethead> Try to install it again? apt-get install skype
[15:39] <froud> buckethead: k
[15:40] <froud> apt-get install skype
[15:40] <froud> Reading package lists... Done
[15:40] <froud> Building dependency tree
[15:40] <froud> Reading state information... Done
[15:40] <froud> Package skype is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[15:40] <froud> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[15:40] <FloodBotK3> froud: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <froud> buckethead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/349574/
[15:41] <petsounds> ciao
[15:42] <buckethead> Odd. What was the output of apt-cache showpkg skype
[15:42] <froud> buckethead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/349575/
[15:44] <froud> buckethead: this is what I added  to sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/349578/
[15:45] <zeus> i just installed kubuntu 9.10 im no able to install any thing it says tht its already installed and thers a crash screen
[15:47] <froud> buckethead: perhaps I need to use the jaunty repo from medibuntu
[15:54] <EagleScreen> jason_: try a newer version of wicd
[15:55] <EagleScreen> <IP_ADDRESS> is the lastest
[15:55] <jason_> eaglescreen - yeah I'll give it a shot then. Got 15 more XP computers to image then I can screw around with this laptop :P
[15:57] <EagleScreen> jason_: i have backported wicd <IP_ADDRESS> to my PPA, you can test it if you want
[15:59] <fir3light> bonsoir à tous
[16:00] <fir3light> sorry i speak french
[16:01] <Captain_Haddock> when I kill an application which is using too much memory, can I get a log or dump that might help in find out why it was using so much memory?
[16:02] <Captain_Haddock> !fr
[16:02] <Captain_Haddock> fir3light: ^
[16:09] <belak> Ok, how can I enable my nvidia drivers if jockey isn't working?
[16:18] <[mors]> hi !
[16:18] <[mors]> it seems wine crashes the sound subsystem, or whatever.. how can I restart it ?
[16:18] <zeus> [mors]: hie dude wazzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:21] <zeus> [mors]: u can restart wine thats the best solution
[16:21] <LainIw> hi, can anyone help me with kubuntu netbook? I need to install graphic drivers on a 1001HA EEE PC.
[16:21] <D-c0y> m4v o/
[16:22] <zeus> LainIw: go to the site of ur laptop manufacturer
[16:24] <sandeep_> hi..me new to ubuntu... i'm nt able to play .avi files by default. wht shud i do?
[16:24] <zeus> sandeep_: so dont play it
[16:24] <sandeep_> tnx
[16:24] <sandeep_> ..|..
[16:26] <LainIw> there's nothing on asus' site
[16:28] <zeus> LainIw: cud u specify on your graphic card
[16:28] <LainIw> I think it's onboard, it's a netbook computer, an asus 1101HA. (i got the model wrong before)
[16:29] <LainIw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/414029
[16:29] <LainIw> this is what i found
[16:31] <zeus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo did u check this
[16:38] <LainIw> zeus: yeah I'm doing what's described there right now
[16:38] <LainIw> it's still working whatever it is that it does
[16:39] <belak> How can I set firefox as my default browser>
[16:39] <belak> ?
[16:48] <LainIw> OK, it works now :3
[16:48] <LainIw> thanks for the help zeus :3
[16:50] <Klanticus> How do I permanently change the screen resolution on a nvidia card?
[16:50] <mariani> Hi. Trying to upgrade my parents' computer. they still run kubuntu feisty, and the apt source servers are down (end of life reached). How do I upgrade to a gutsy, hardy, intrepid... Would pointing apt to the new repos work? Can I point directly to karmic, or should I point to the next release (gutsy in my case) ? Thanks
[16:54] <belak> Is there a way to set firefox as my default browser (not konqueror) in kubuntu?
[16:54] <rstob911> belak: yes go to system settings then default applications
[16:56] <rstob911> belak: make sure you have firefox installed
[16:57] <belak> Ok
[16:57] <belak> Thanks
[16:59] <Neremor> hello!
[17:01] <Neremor> I'm trying out KDE 4.3.85 (4.4 Beta 2) on Kubuntu 9.10. I wanted to install digikam, but there seem to be some problems: When I try to install digikam via apt-get install digikam (from backports), it tells me that libkipi7 is needed. But digikam uses right now only libkipi6. Therefore I don't have the kipi plugins available in digikam afterwards. It's the same for gwenview. Any Idea how to solve that?
[17:04] <ToxinPowe> I can install digikam
[17:05] <ToxinPowe> what is your PPA?
[17:07] <rstob911> Neremor: remember kde4.4 is a beta and not all programs are going to work till it goes stable
[17:14] <ilumi> im trying to chown and chgrp a folder but i get "not found" , can someone help
[17:21] <wng--> is there a way to have kdebase3-runtime exist on a kde4 system without fudging things up?
[17:40] <micz> hello
[17:41] <doomzday> hello
[17:42] <doomzday> good morning
[17:42] <doomzday> I accidentally deleted the recycle bin icon in dolphin's side panel
[17:42] <doomzday> how can I get it back?
[17:42] <doomzday> kde 4.3 kubuntu here
[17:48] <ilumi> not sure but you can press alt+f2 and type in trash
[17:48] <ilumi> maybe then you can just drag and drp the icon to the desktop
[17:48] <aqab> you can trash stuff from the command line
[17:48] <aqab> is that the question?
[17:49] <doomzday> let me see
[17:50] <doomzday> i can't drag the icon
[17:50] <doomzday> :(
[17:51] <doomzday> i tried add an entry, but what's the path for the trash can?
[17:53] <aqab> kfmclient move foobar.txt trash:/
[17:56] <belak> Is there a way to make my qt3 apps look like my qt4 apps?
[17:57] <belak> Short of rewriting them
[18:08] <jason> whats up guys
[18:08] <ilumi> sup
[18:10] <jason> hows life
[18:15] <ilumi> ok
[18:15] <petsounds> Bonne Année 2010
[18:15] <subito> is there a package to install in order to see quicktime videos on firefox? i've installed kubuntu-restricted-extras but that did nothing
[18:17] <ToxinPowe> maybe mozilla-plugin-vlc
[18:20] <subito> ToxinPowe: i've tried that too but that didn't work either :(
[18:20] <subito> ToxinPowe: even though the vlc add-on is activated in firefox
[18:20] <ToxinPowe> ok, good luck :/
[18:21] <subito> trying with quicktime-utils too, fail :(
[18:21] <jason> hey guys - someone asked htis Q in ubuntu and I figured I'd ask it here for sake of learning purpose. If you install KDE 4.4 beta, how can you drop back to KDE 4.3.2 (default in karmic)
[18:23] <ilumi> subito: try installing w32codecs and mplayer plugin for firefox
[18:24] <subito> ilumi: w32codecs: obsolete package
[18:24] <jason> doesnt restricted extras have everything you need integrated?
[18:25] <subito> jason: maybe do i need to reboot
[18:25] <subito> i'll try and tell
[18:25] <Drala2> Hi. Any reason why iwl3945 wifi driver would return 'disasociating by local choice' when trying to run iwconfig wlan0 key .... in kubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:26] <Drala2> The hardware wors and was confired working in Slackware. I've killed NetworkManager - this seemed to help to actually be able to set the key and AP once only.
[18:26] <Drala2> *works
[18:27] <Drala2> but I can't get the command line tools to work correctly in Karmic - I somehow suspect Kubuntu-specific HAL or some other issue. Or maybe it's a PEBKAC but I am unsure...
[18:28] <subito> it doesn't work, even after rebooting :(
[18:29] <Drala2> to replicate this issue, I do: ifconfig wlan0 up && iwconfig wlan0 essid my_ssid && iwconfig wlan0 key s:mypassword && iwconfig wlan0 ap my:ap:hw:ad:dr:es
[18:29] <subito> jason: have someone answered your question about downgrading from the beta?
[18:29] <Drala2> iwconfig output shows that the ap and key settings are cleared after a small timeout after entering the key...
[18:31] <jason> no
[18:31] <jason> do you know how its done subito?
[18:32] <subito> jason: no, but what about removing the ppa's from sources.list? i don't know if that's safe
[18:32] <jason> not sure either. Its not something I was dealing with. Someone else asked and I got curious :P
[18:34] <subito> maybe i can try and tell you, but i'm not confident :D
[18:38] <bucur> sal
[18:38] <bucur> romaneste pe aici?
[18:41] <Fleck> hey - i did apt-get source package - applied paches etc... what's next?
[18:41] <Fleck> how do i build package?
[18:42] <shadeslayer> Fleck: you need to extract the code,apply the .diff patch and read the README file
[18:42] <Fleck> i did that - Readme ?
[18:42] <shadeslayer> Fleck: yeah it should be in the tarball
[18:42] <shadeslayer> Fleck: what package btw?
[18:43] <Fleck> i whant to compile the same packages as in packages lists, but just need to add one patch
[18:43] <Fleck> mythtv
[18:43] <Fleck> where do i get configure options for package found in lists?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> Fleck: you alsoe need the build dependicies..
[18:44] <Fleck> i did that too
[18:44] <shadeslayer> Fleck: it should be in the tarball as ./configure
[18:44] <Fleck> with apt-get
[18:44] <shadeslayer> Fleck: yes
[18:44] <Fleck> shadeslayer so just running ./configure will do the trick?
[18:45] <shadeslayer> Fleck: nope... after that you might need make && sudo make install
[18:45] <shadeslayer> !compile | Fleck
[18:45] <Fleck> i have seen that link
[18:45] <shadeslayer> Fleck: oh good :)
[18:45] <Fleck> there is nothing said about configure options for package
[18:46] <Fleck> shadeslayer - i do apt-get install mythtv - but how do i know with what options is it compiled?
[18:46] <shadeslayer> Fleck: can you pastebin the output of ls -la in the extracted folder?
[18:46] <Fleck> i think you are not understanding me correctly :)
[18:46] <shadeslayer> Fleck: its a precompiled binary package... it has everything enabled... usually
[18:47] <Fleck> shadeslayer so i did apt-get source mythtv then apt-get build-dep mythtv then dpkg-source -x mythtv.....dsc
[18:47] <shadeslayer> Fleck: you need to talk in MOTU if this is concerning the way a package was built... i dont have alot of ideas how these packages are built... theyre built by launchpad farms,thats all i know
[18:47] <Fleck> last command applied all pches
[18:48] <shadeslayer> Fleck: ok then cd to the directory and follow the install instructions in the README
[18:48] <Fleck> then i added needed custom patch (the reason i need to recompile) - now i am ready to do ./configure but dunno original options used in mythtv binary package
[18:49] <shadeslayer> Fleck: look at ./configure --help : if you want anything extra to compile
[18:49] <Fleck> (that is all prefixes etc)
[18:49] <shadeslayer> usually the install prefixes etc are inserted in ./configure
[18:49] <Fleck> i don't need extra - i need the same as binary package ;)
[18:49] <Fleck> ohh
[18:49] <Fleck> i see
[18:49] <Fleck> ok will try it out ;)
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Fleck: the packages are built with default values usually
[18:50] <Fleck> ok that what i needed! :) thanks shadeslayer
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Fleck: so the command is : ./configure --prefix='PATH TO INSTALL'
[18:51] <Fleck> so again - i need to specify prefix
[18:51] <Fleck> ?
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Fleck: no,its set to default if not specified
[18:51] <Fleck> and default is not /usr/local ?
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Fleck: it should be listed when you run : ./configure --help
[18:51] <Fleck> default for ubuntu?
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Fleck: depends
[18:51] <Fleck> running make now
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Fleck: good luck :D
[18:51] <Fleck> :P
[18:51] <Fleck> thanks
[18:52] <shadeslayer> building from source is a PITA somethimes :P
[18:55] <iconiK> Does Kubuntu 9.04 support extending the desktop on two monitors? Right now it's only duplicating it.
[18:56] <iconiK> (I'm in the live disc)
[18:58] <Fleck> shadeslayer PITA?
[18:58] <shadeslayer> Fleck: Pain in the a**
[18:58] <Fleck> hehe
[18:58] <shadeslayer> Fleck: i hate it when i have to reinstall kubuntu... reinstall kubuntu-restricted-extras and kde-devel packages... its just frustrating :P
[19:01] <nycz> I just installed Kubuntu 9.10 (i386) while keeping my old /home from a Xubuntu 9.10 (x64) and now when I've installed the latest wine version, it's sound isn't working. Should I remove  any old settings from /home, and if so which?
[19:02] <nycz> I've already made a new .wine and a new .kde (I used KDE right before I reinstalled)
[19:03] <Fleck> shadeslayer why? thats easy and fast, what's the problem?
[19:08] <shadeslayer> Fleck: slow internet connection :P
[19:08] <Fleck> ohh
[19:08] <Icari|mac> is anyone available to assist me in configuring a broadcom wireless card?
[19:08] <Fleck> yeah
[19:09] <Icari|mac> i have a broadcom 4328 and it cant connect to my network but it can see the network and my neighbors networks
[19:10] <shadeslayer> !broadcom | Icari|mac
[19:10] <shadeslayer>                 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:10]  * Icari|mac looks
[19:10] <shadeslayer> oops stupid irssi in windows
[19:11] <Icari|mac> the drivers that come after i install wifi-radar dont work then?
[19:11] <Icari|mac> *comes
[19:12] <Fleck> shadeslayer well installed in /usr/local - that what i was afraid of
[19:12] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: well since it can see the neighboughrs wifi they work
[19:12] <Fleck> i need package mantainers config options :(
[19:12] <Icari|mac> but it cant connect, even if i take the key off my network
[19:13] <shadeslayer> Fleck: uninstall it and run it with the ./configure --prefix options i told you earlier
[19:13] <Drala2>  can't seem to get DHCP from the wifi network. Any ideas please?
[19:13] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: this is with network manager in KDE?
[19:13] <Icari|mac> yes
[19:13] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: ok try wicd
[19:13] <fujimitsu> here we go. amarok: OObject::setParent: cannot set parent, new parent is in separate thread
[19:13] <Icari|mac> what is that shadeslayer
[19:13] <Icari|mac> ?
[19:13] <Fleck> shadeslayer yeah but all other options... :/
[19:14] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: another network manager but better
[19:14] <Icari|mac> sudo apt-get install wicd?
[19:14] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: correct
[19:14] <Icari|mac> ok i will try that
[19:14] <Drala2> shadeslayer: thanks for the suggestion - getting it now. might make this work...
[19:14] <shadeslayer> Fleck: well ask in #motu then or #mythtv
[19:15] <shadeslayer> i have no idea what to say other than that
[19:15] <Fleck> okthanks
[19:15] <shadeslayer> Drala2: ?
[19:16] <Drala2> shadeslayer: I also have problems getting iwl3945 to connect to wifi network in kubuntu.
[19:16] <Drala2> so maybe wicd might make it work
[19:16] <belak> Drala2: is this after a fresh install?
[19:17] <shadeslayer> Drala2: i have the same card and have no problems at all with the default manager... wierd
[19:17] <belak> Drala2: if you can get the computer wired in for one update, it should work
[19:17] <shadeslayer> oh wait its a iwl4965
[19:17] <belak> I know someone who tried it the other day
[19:20] <Icari|mac> shadeslayer: it seems stuck at getting ip address, same as with knetworkmanager, cant connect
[19:21] <Icari|mac> but the networks are able to be browsed just does not connect to any wireless
[19:22] <nycz> if i remove all my config folders in my home folder, are the defaults restored for all the programs when i reboot or can the whole os blow up or something? :/
[19:22] <Icari|mac> and now with wicd it is not even connecting to my wired network
[19:22] <Drala2> argh. wicd booted me off the wired eth and still cannot get dhcp from the AP device :(
[19:23] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: im assuming its a DHCP enabled?
[19:23] <Icari|mac> i am not sure
[19:23] <Icari|mac> how can i find out?
[19:23] <shadeslayer> nycz: defaults are used
[19:23] <Fleck> shadeslayer ok, guys at #mythbuntu said that config options are in debian/rules file ;)
[19:23] <nycz> shadeslayer: thanks
[19:24] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: um visit <IP_ADDRESS> via a browser in a different OS which can connect to the wifi
[19:24] <shadeslayer> Fleck: no problem
[19:24] <shadeslayer> nycz: just log out and login back no need to reboot
[19:24] <nycz> ah :)
[19:24] <shadeslayer> Drala2: thats weird
[19:24] <Icari|mac> i am on the wifi atm with no problems on my macbook and my old [dead] laptop with kubuntu connected fine
[19:25] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: ok point your browser to <IP_ADDRESS>,default password and login should be admin and password
[19:25] <Drala2> shadeslayer: aye. kubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 just cannot connect to the wifi network here. But 8.10 allegedly could, and Slackware 13 could. I'm running the iwconfig commands the same way on each...
[19:25] <Icari|mac> yes i am in the router just fine
[19:25] <fujimitsu> so i want to start amarok and it sais sowwy, parent is in another thread. ok. i do top and and dont see any amarok process, so nothing to kill. but the program just wont start
[19:25] <Icari|mac> linksys
[19:25] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: ok now under LAN check if you have DHCP?
[19:26] <Icari|mac> ok just a sec
[19:26] <Icari|mac> yes it is enabled
[19:26] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: ok just copy the ip address and try to manually assign the IP address
[19:27] <Icari|mac> how do you do that with wicd?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> Drala2: can you get  back on the wired?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: it should be in the settings button of the connection
[19:27] <Icari|mac> ok i will try
[19:27] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: youve rebooted the laptop with wicd right?
[19:28] <Icari|mac> yes
[19:28] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: ok then :)
[19:28] <Icari|mac> it asks for a dns, you recommend opendns?
[19:29] <drabina> hello, do you know what is the status of kivio? I mean status of porting it to qt4?
[19:29] <drabina> qt3 based release was really cool
[19:29] <shadeslayer> drabina: would be better answered in #kde or the apps IRC channel
[19:30] <drabina> shadeslayer: probably you're right ;]
[19:32] <Drala2> well assigning a manual ip address did not work as in pinking the AP address gives me destination host unreachable
[19:32] <Icari|mac> similar issues here as well Drala2
[19:33] <Drala2> Icari|mac: maybe kubuntu has bugs :(
[19:33] <Icari|mac> "could not conact the wireles access point"
[19:33] <Icari|mac> i just installed this yesterday and monday it worked fine on my old laptop
[19:33] <Icari|mac> but my old laptop is dead now
[19:34] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac Drala2 can you guys pastebin the output of dmesg | tail ?
[19:34] <shadeslayer> we might have to do this the hard way... :P
[19:35] <Icari|mac> ah shadeslayer it looks to be trying to connect to IPv6 and i have IPv4, i cant really nopaste that without internet :P
[19:35] <Icari|mac> "no IPv6 routers present"
[19:37] <Drala2> http://pastebin.com/m2498e6a1   shadeslayer
[19:37] <Icari|mac> that is about the same as my output Drala2
[19:38] <Drala2> shadeslayer: 18xx logs are afaik when I was using purely iwconfig; the latter ones are I believe with the help of wicd
[19:40] <Drala2> which also looks similar to: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-987730.html
[19:41] <shadeslayer> Drala2: Icari|mac try and install linux-backports-modules
[19:42] <china_yellow_man> jkl
[19:42] <shadeslayer> not sure if it exsists in karmic though
[19:42] <Icari|mac> shadeslayer: how can i do that when not even the wired network will connect?
[19:42] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: wired doesnt connect? one sec
[19:42] <Icari|mac> nope not now
[19:42] <Icari|mac> did with knetworkmanager
[19:43] <ubuntu> does anyone know if kubuntu can be installed on a 400 mhz Mac PowerPC G4
[19:43] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[19:43] <ubuntu> newb here
[19:44] <shadeslayer> the first few lines till setting up host name
[19:44] <Icari|mac> ok
[19:44] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: since it has dhcp you dont to set the IP manually
[19:44] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: welcome!
[19:45] <Drala2> shadeslayer: you suspect a kernel {module} regression?
[19:45] <Icari|mac> i never have set it manually till you suggested it
[19:46] <shadeslayer> Drala2: maybe the modules are a bit outdated and cant connect,new drivers are always better
[19:48] <shadeslayer> Drala2: Icari|mac what authentication method btw?
[19:48] <Drala2> shadeslayer: i installed kernel.ubuntu.org ppa kernel and modules as same version as slackware (which can connect), and still no luck before i installed karmic from scratch
[19:48] <Icari|mac> shadeslayer: is there a way to change it from looking at <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[19:48] <Drala2> shadeslayer: wep 128bit passphrase
[19:48] <Icari|mac> wpa2 personal
[19:49] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: one sec
[19:49] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: see the Configuring Static IP address for your network card step
[19:49] <Icari|mac> ok
[19:50] <Icari|mac> just add the part for netmask?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: the whole file,its better that way
[19:51] <ilumi> im trying to chown and chgrp a folder but i get "not found" , can someone help
[19:51] <Icari|mac> ok i am trying that
[19:51] <jason> ilumi - does the folder exist?
[19:51] <ilumi> jason: yes
[19:52] <jason> ilumi - are you using sudo?
[19:52] <Icari|mac> shadeslayer: what do i put for "network" and "broadcast" ?
[19:52] <ilumi> jason: yes
[19:52] <jason> ilumi - do you want the files/folders inside of this folder to get the same owner/group assignment? Or ONLY the parent folder?
[19:52] <Drala2> shadeslayer: i assume i have to reboot after installing backports modules ;) thanks for the help - brb
[19:52] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: replace <IP_ADDRESS> with <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:53] <Icari|mac> ok
[19:53] <shadeslayer> Drala2: of course
[19:53] <ilumi> jason: there are lots of files and folder in that folder, and i want to take ownership of everything, including the main folder
[19:53] <jason> ilumi - who do you want to own it? whats the name of the group you want to assign?
[19:54] <shadeslayer> !wifi | Icari|mac
[19:54] <Icari|mac> i will look at that
[19:55] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: please do :)
[19:55] <ilumi> jason: it's owned by root, i want ilumi to own it
[19:55] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: also : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported : see your card here
[19:55] <jason> ilumi - whats the path of the file?
[19:55] <Icari|mac> ok
[19:56] <ilumi> jason: ilumi is my username , im using this command sudo chown ilumi home/ilumi/Appz/aaaa
[19:57] <jason> okay, I see a problem
[19:57] <jason> you forgot the slash in front of home
[19:57] <jason> /home/ilumi/Appz/aaaa
[19:57] <shadeslayer> brb
[19:57] <jason> and also, if you want ilumi to be the owner of that folder and EVERYTHING inside, you need to use -R with it
[19:57] <drabina> What is policy about ppa repos related to kde (kubuntu 10.04 LTS edition). If I enable ppa repo (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main), does it mean I will get updates based on kde  for 4.4.x (let say bug fix updates) or latest version of kde in general (for instance 4.6.x after two years)?
[19:57] <Icari|mac> shadeslayer_: manual setting of the network is not working either
[19:58] <shadeslayer_> drabina: #ubuntu+1
[19:58] <jason> -R means recursive. Itll apply the changes to aaaa AND everything inside. If you apply chown ilumi /to/folder it applies it /to/folder and thats IT. NOTHING inside.
[19:58] <shadeslayer_> Icari|mac: ill brb
[19:58] <Icari|mac> ok
[19:58] <jason> so for what YOU want to do in this exact situation, which is changing th eowner of that aaaa folder and EVERYTHING inside of it, you want to use chmod -R
[19:58] <drabina> I'm asking because I'm planing to use kubuntu as production desktop
[19:58] <jason> aka - sudo chown -R ilumi /home/ilumi/Appz/aaaa
[19:59] <ilumi> jason: thank a lot, it worked
[19:59] <jason> :)
[20:00] <jason> now, keep in mind
[20:00] <shadeslayer_> drabina: question still applies to #ubuntu+1
[20:00] <jason> you only changed the owner there. If you want to change the group too, you can use the same command and just tag group with it
[20:00] <ilumi> ok
[20:00] <jason> sudo chown -R ilumi /to/folder makes ilumi the owner. But if you tag ilumi:group in there, it assigns ilumi as owner, and group as group.
[20:00] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: ok so let me get the facts straight,this is a clean install of karmic 9.10,and your card is a broadcom card,right?
[20:00] <jason> aka - sudo chown -R ilumi:group /home/ilumi/Appz/aaaa
[20:00] <Icari|mac> yes shadeslayer
[20:01] <jason> owner:group, ilumi:whatevergroupyouwant
[20:01] <Icari|mac> i have installed a few packages but was just installed yesterday
[20:01] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: the card number is? (i forgot :P )
[20:01] <Icari|mac> 4328
[20:01] <drabina> shadeslayer_: ok, thanx
[20:01] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: and the wifi worked till then?
[20:01] <jason> OR you can use chgrp -R whatevergroupyouwant /to/folder, etc
[20:01] <Icari|mac> a/b/g/n
[20:01] <jason> lots of different ways to do the same thing ilumi, but you get the idea :P
[20:01] <Icari|mac> it saw the networks but NEVER connected other then wired, now wired does not connect either
[20:02] <ilumi> jason: i understand, thanks
[20:02] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: ok hang on :)
[20:02] <Icari|mac> shadeslayer: i keep seeing messages about IPv8 in dmesg |tail
[20:02] <Icari|mac> *IPv6
[20:02] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: ok..
[20:02] <Icari|mac> i dont have an IPv6 network
[20:03] <Icari|mac> it is a standard network from my isp no extras
[20:05] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8524813
[20:05]  * Icari|mac looks
[20:06] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: the main problem now is getting you the wired connection back
[20:06] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: do you have a USB drive?
[20:06] <Icari|mac> yes then we can work on the wireless once that is working
[20:06] <Icari|mac> yes i do
[20:07] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: ok and wicd didnt pickup the wired connection right?
[20:07] <Icari|mac> no it does, but it gives the same error as the wireless network now, cant get an ip address
[20:08] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: have you unset the static IP?
[20:08] <Icari|mac> yes i did
[20:09] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: hmm ok
[20:09] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: can you do : sudo dhclient : in a konsole?
[20:10] <Icari|mac> the error in wicd for the wired network is "connection failed: unable to get IP address"
[20:10] <Icari|mac> just a sec
[20:10] <jason> I'm coming into this convo halfway through. What happened? You grabbed WICD and now you're having issues?
[20:10] <Icari|mac> it is trying to connect to dhcp server on <IP_ADDRESS> where mine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:10] <Icari|mac> yes
[20:10] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: what!
[20:11] <jason> a dhcp server?
[20:11] <jason> of all 255s?
[20:11] <jason> that sounds like a subnet..
[20:11] <Icari|mac> that is what it shows
[20:11] <jason> yeaaaah that aint right...
[20:11] <jason> you're on a home router I take it?
[20:11] <Icari|mac> yes
[20:11] <jason> all dhcp?
[20:11] <Icari|mac> which works fine on my macbook
[20:12] <shadeslayer> jason: we just need to get the wired working then we have the solution for the wireless
[20:12] <jason> are you running kubuntu on your macbook or is the mac a completely separate system from this situation?
[20:12] <Icari|mac> i guess, i am not much of a network person
[20:12] <ElTimo> Has anyone else had a problem with KDE taking up absurd amounts of ram?
[20:12] <jason> shadeslayer: agreed. wireless is always a beeyotch to do first.
[20:12] <Icari|mac> mac is seperate
[20:12]  * shadeslayer heaves a sigh of relief as he gets reinforcements
[20:13] <jason> ElTimo: not here, man. In fact, KDE uses less ram on all of my systems than gnome does :P
[20:13] <ElTimo> ><
[20:13] <jason> Icari|mac: what kind of router are you using? all 192.168.x.x IP schemes?
[20:13] <shadeslayer> jason: well i thought wicd might solve the problem... but it seems the problem is with the kernel modules bein outdated
[20:13] <Icari|mac> yes, just a sec i will paste a screenshot
[20:13] <jason> shadeslayer: is this something a quick update cant flip around?
[20:14] <shadeslayer> jason: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8524813
[20:14] <shadeslayer> jason: same problem i think... unless im horribly wrong
[20:14] <ElTimo> every system monitor I look at reports nearly a gig of ram being used when I'm running Firefox, Pidgin, and KDE. The thing is that if you add up the memory usage of the individual apps, the total is ~450 MB
[20:14] <Icari|mac> jason: shadeslayer http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3005/operascreensnapz024.jpg
[20:14] <shadeslayer> ElTimo: rest is programme cache
[20:15] <jason> ElTimo: I have the same issue in vista, 7, xp, etc. I always assumed it was just caching a ton.
[20:15] <Icari|mac> that is the most i know about my routher
[20:15] <Icari|mac> it is a linksys
[20:15] <ElTimo> shadeslayer: you sure? because it doesn't seem right. doesn't gnome cache at all?
[20:15] <Icari|mac> and DHCPDISCOVER is looking at <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:16] <shadeslayer> ElTimo: type : free -m : in a konsole and see the stats
[20:16] <jason> Icari|mac: its a linksys, so its running on 192.168 based IP schemes... so 1.1 is probably your gateway (aka dhcp as well)
[20:16] <shadeslayer> and im posting a site in one sec
[20:16] <shadeslayer> ElTimo: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[20:16] <jason> Icari|mac: how did you install wicd? apt-get install wicd?
[20:16] <Icari|mac> yes
[20:16] <jason> Icari|mac: did you reboot after installing it?
[20:16] <Icari|mac> yes
[20:16] <shadeslayer> jason: thats when wired stopped working ;P
[20:17] <Icari|mac> and it removed network-manager and i cant reinstall it without internet
[20:17] <jason> shadeslayer: well, if worst comes to worst, we can get him to edit his interface file to bypass network manager/wicd all together and grab a DHCP connection to at least get him running.
[20:17] <shadeslayer> jason: tried that too :P
[20:17] <Icari|mac> ker
[20:17] <Icari|mac> *her
[20:17] <jason> shadeslayer: youre shittin me...
[20:17] <shadeslayer> jason: nope :)
[20:17] <jason> and rebooted?
[20:17] <Icari|mac> it is still using the <IP_ADDRESS> DHCP
[20:17] <Icari|mac> no i was not told to reboot again after that
[20:17] <Icari|mac> but i restarted the network
[20:18] <jason> how about statically assigning an IP table in the interface file?
[20:18] <jason> force him to grab 1.10 with 1.1 being the gateway?
[20:18] <Icari|mac> i did that jason
[20:18] <Icari|mac> and i am female ;)
[20:18] <jason> well stab me in the face...
[20:18] <jason> you got a heckuva problem
[20:18] <Icari|mac> that is why i came here :( and it got worse
[20:18] <shadeslayer> jason: tell me about it
[20:18] <jason> and my apologies :P it's sorta rare females come around these parts, lol
[20:19] <jason> let me think.....
[20:19] <Icari|mac> i know and a female going into tech support that cant support her own problem :(
[20:19] <ElTimo> jason: sounds like a personal problem. they make pills for that now
[20:19] <jason> no matter WHAT happens to network manager or wicd, the interface file is a "I own all" type of situation
[20:19] <ElTimo> shadeslayer: it still says that it's using ~50% of my ram, which is a lot more than it should be using
[20:19] <jason> it doesnt matter how badly messed up those programs are, the interface file should own all
[20:19] <Icari|mac> jason: maybe the interfaces file is set wrong, i was not 100% sure on it
[20:20] <ElTimo> including the buffers/caches, it says I have 77 MB free
[20:20] <jason> Icari|mac: I dont mean to sound like I doubt you, but Im betting that might be the case
[20:20] <jason> Icari|mac: lets do this... run an ifconfig, copy and past ehte contents to a pastebin
[20:20] <ElTimo> brb switching to gnome ><
[20:20] <jason> sorry to hear that :P
[20:20] <Icari|mac> i have adress <IP_ADDRESS> gateway 192.1681.1 netmask <IP_ADDRESS> network <IP_ADDRESS> and broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:21] <Icari|mac> and i cant really do that when i have no internet working on my desktop jason :(
[20:21] <jason> your gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> right?
[20:21] <Icari|mac> yes
[20:21] <jason> not 1681.1?
[20:21] <jason> okay
[20:21] <genii> <IP_ADDRESS> for broadcast??
[20:21] <Icari|mac> sorry missed the .
[20:21] <jason> just wanted to verify if that was a typo or what the file actually says
[20:21] <Icari|mac> that is what shadeslayer
[20:21] <Icari|mac> said to put in
[20:21] <jason> why 105 for broadcast...
[20:21] <Icari|mac> i dont know what broadcast is
[20:21] <jason> isnt broadcast normally higher up?
[20:22] <Icari|mac> what should i put there instead?
[20:22] <genii> jason: Yes it's the highest number the netmask allows
[20:22] <jason> are you reading these stats from your interface file? or from ifconfig?
[20:22] <Icari|mac> interface
[20:22] <genii> In this case broadcast would be <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:22] <jason> why not just dhcp the interface file?
[20:22] <Icari|mac> ifconfig should show nothing if i am not connected to any network
[20:22] <jason> and see if it pulls it?
[20:22] <Icari|mac> how do i do that?
[20:22] <jason> whats your interface? eth1? eth0?
[20:23] <Icari|mac> 0 is wired 1 is wireless from what i can see
[20:23] <jason> when you run ifconfig it should say
[20:23] <jason> okay, lets play with 0 for wired
[20:23] <jason> at the top, do you see auto lo and loopback listed on 2 lines of your interface file?
[20:23] <shadeslayer> um sorry about bein absent... im constantly getting spammed :P
[20:23] <Icari|mac> auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static
[20:24] <jason> wait wait
[20:24] <jason> thats in the top line?
[20:24] <jason> you dont have auto lo?
[20:24] <Icari|mac> no
[20:24] <jason> okay
[20:24] <jason> dont do anything
[20:24] <Icari|mac> the link shadeslayer gave me did not have that in it
[20:24] <jason> hold that thought
[20:24] <FloodBotK3> jason: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <jason> I think auto lo is required for that interface file to work right
[20:24] <ElTimo> hm, what do you know. it's showing up in gnome now too
[20:24] <jason> lets do this...
[20:24] <jason> hit enter a few times, move all of that text downward, leaving a few empty lines at th etop
[20:24] <Icari|mac> ok
[20:24] <jason> put a comment tag # in front of EVERY SINGLE LINE of text
[20:25] <jason> this comments is out. That way we're not erasing any current settings, but we're "disabling"
[20:25] <jason> gimme a sec...
[20:25] <Icari|mac> i have a backup of the orginal file before i edited it
[20:26] <Icari|mac> this is why i like intel wireless cards better :(
[20:26] <Icari|mac> but i could not get one in my desktop
[20:26] <jason> okay
[20:26] <jason> oh you have the original??
[20:26] <Icari|mac> yes
[20:26] <jason> awesome
[20:26] <Icari|mac> it had 2 lines in it
[20:26] <jason> right, auto lo and loopback
[20:27] <jason> thats what's missing from the other file
[20:27] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: you deleted those lines?
[20:27] <jason> Im pretty sure those are needed to do anything. Every time I read a guide about editing th einterface file it talks about htose lines, leaving them alone
[20:27] <Icari|mac> no the link you gave shadeslayer did not have those
[20:27] <jason> Icari|mac: can you restore your interface file to how it was before?
[20:27] <Icari|mac> i looked at the code blocks in the link
[20:27] <jason> from the backup?
[20:27] <Icari|mac> sure
[20:27] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: i said to add those lines to the network file not make them the network file :P
[20:28] <jason> what was first happening that prompted the wicd install?
[20:28] <Icari|mac> wireless not connecting
[20:28] <jason> but wired worked?
[20:28] <Icari|mac> yes with knetworkmanager
[20:28] <jason> what was happening with wicd that prompted the editing of the interface file?
[20:29] <shadeslayer> jason: couldnt connect to wired
[20:29] <Icari|mac> not connecting to any network, cant find ip address
[20:29] <jason> so with NM you had wired, no wireless. tried wicd, and nothing.
[20:29] <jason> and I assume a reboot was attempted after installing wicd?
[20:29] <shadeslayer> jason: yep
[20:29] <jason> ok
[20:29] <Icari|mac> when i restart networking i get "ignoring unknown interace eth0=eth0."
[20:30] <jason> did you restore the interface file to how it was before changes were made?
[20:30] <Icari|mac> yes
[20:30] <jason> whats in it now? Just those two lines?
[20:30] <Icari|mac> want me to reboot it again?
[20:30] <Icari|mac> yes
[20:30] <jason> dont reboot yet
[20:30] <Icari|mac> ok
[20:30] <jason> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:30] <Icari|mac> i just did that with the above message
[20:30] <shadeslayer> jason: i think she did that
[20:30] <murkee> hey guys, just installed kubuntu 9.10 having some issues with the network being really slow
[20:30] <jason> k reboot the system
[20:30] <murkee> anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
[20:30] <Icari|mac> ok
[20:31] <shadeslayer> murkee: any apt-get processes in the process monitor?
[20:31] <murkee> no
[20:31] <shadeslayer> murkee: kpackagekit,wget,kio_http,etc?
[20:31] <murkee> nothing
[20:32] <shadeslayer> murkee: hmm what apps are you running?
[20:32] <Icari|mac> also if it matters any i left windoze 7 on and i am dual booting kubuntu, the network did work upon inital boot of 7
[20:32] <murkee> shadeslayer, ubuntu 9.10 has the same issue, but i could set my DNS too googleDNS
[20:32] <shadeslayer> murkee: eh?
[20:32] <murkee> i tried google chrome and konqeuror (the firefox thing will not install)
[20:32] <jason> that makes sense that 7 would work, since we're not tinkering with windows at all
[20:32] <jason> is that system up yet?
[20:33] <Icari|mac> yes
[20:33] <Icari|mac> just came up
[20:33] <jason> k
[20:33] <jason> ifconfig
[20:33] <jason> whatcha got?
[20:33] <Icari|mac> and unable to get ip address still
[20:33] <shadeslayer> jason: try not to use enter too many times... FloodBot's get triggered
[20:33] <jason> I know. But I type faster than I think.
[20:33] <murkee> shadeslayer,  any idea?
[20:33] <Icari|mac> jason: what line in it do you want? i cant really cp it to irc easily
[20:34] <shadeslayer> murkee: your last statement made no sense :P
[20:34] <jason> Icari|mac: hang on a second
[20:34] <Icari|mac> ok
[20:34] <jason> run this command
[20:34] <murkee> shadeslayer,  in other words, in ubuntu 9.10 i set my dns to googleDNS and it worked alright then, but i can't find anywhere to enter the dns ip in kubuntu
[20:35] <jason> nano /etc/network/interfaces         then copy everything, and paste it to this web site. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ submit it, and post the link back.
[20:35] <jason> I want to see exactly whats in that interface file...
[20:35] <Icari|mac> dmesg |tail has this line "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP_: eth0: link is not ready"
[20:35] <shadeslayer> murkee: right click the Network icon in the systray.. edit connections last tab
[20:35] <Icari|mac> jason: how can i do that when the file is on a pc with NO internet connection?
[20:35] <jason> ADDRCONF.... address conflict?
[20:35] <jason> Icari|mac: thats a damn good question...
[20:35] <murkee> yes, but there are no connections in there, and i tried adding a connection and it still didn't work
[20:35] <jason> man I suck at thinking logically today
[20:36] <shadeslayer> jason: lol
[20:36] <Icari|mac> and i see "eth2: no IPv^ routers present"
[20:36] <jason> Icari|mac: the alarm is going to be set in 2-3 minutes here at work so I have to bounce, but heres what I recommend doing as a quick trial fix...
[20:36] <Icari|mac> *IPv6
[20:36] <shadeslayer> Icari|mac: can you transfer the file via a txt file using a USB?
[20:37] <Icari|mac> yea if i have to i can try that
[20:37] <jason> Icari|mac: under auto lo and auto loopback, make 1 empty line. below that, auto eth0 (then on the next line) iface eth0 inet dhcp. save, reboot. try that.
[20:37] <jason> Icari|mac: Ill poke back in here after I get home, but I kinda gotta get out of the building like... now.
[20:37] <jason> good luck!
[20:37] <Icari|mac> sure see you when you get home
[20:38] <shadeslayer> ill try and help till then
[20:38] <shadeslayer> jason: cant we get the network manager from getdeb?
[20:38] <shadeslayer> transfer it using the USB and install it
[20:38] <murkee> oo love the help.
[20:39] <shadeslayer> murkee: found it?
[20:39] <murkee> no.
[20:39] <Oposszum> Hy all !
[20:39] <shadeslayer> oh sorry.. one sec
[20:39] <shadeslayer> murkee: didnt read your last message :P
[20:39] <murkee> yes i did.
[20:39] <murkee> oh
[20:39] <murkee> i thought you said did i? lol
[20:40] <shadeslayer> lol
[20:41] <shadeslayer> murkee: i dont have a idea about what youre trying to accomplish
[20:41] <murkee> shadeslayer,  instead of waiting 5 minutes for a page to load, i want it faster
[20:42] <murkee> and i know its kubuntu's fault.
[20:42] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[20:44] <murkee> shadeslayer?
[20:45] <shadeslayer> yes?
[20:45] <murkee> any ideas? :P
[20:45] <shadeslayer> nope :P
[20:45] <murkee> *shrugs*
[20:45] <shadeslayer> i would say try wicd but as witnessed above it may screw up your slow connectio too :P
[20:45] <shadeslayer> *connection
[20:46] <shadeslayer> murkee: i would say keep trying and return after 2-3 days.. its holiday season so everyones gone off to party
[20:47] <shadeslayer> im off too now :)
[20:47] <murkee> oo worse thing is, you know its bad when an un-official forum knows the answer >:
[20:47] <shadeslayer> murkee: cool you found the answer?
[20:47] <murkee> indeed.
[20:47] <shadeslayer> murkee: good for you :)
[20:47] <shadeslayer> murkee: we dont know everything... we are not Gods
[20:48] <murkee> still, shadeslayer, if i was correct its on the known bugs list
[20:48] <shadeslayer> murkee: im sorry i couldnt understand you problem entirely,hence could not help you
[20:49] <shadeslayer> i didnt know what you meant by connecting to the googleDNS
[20:49] <shadeslayer> anyways bye to all and have a happy new year
[20:49] <murkee> and to you also
[21:07] <jadedtech> greetings all!
[21:09] <jadedtech> trying to tackle another problem.....video.....got a million sites telling me to go to "System->Administration->Hardware Drivers. " but that menu does not exists (the drivers), Karmic 9.10.  Any ideas?
[21:10] <Icari|mac> search for hardware in kickoff
[21:18] <jadedtech> what is kickoff?
[21:18] <Icari|mac> the default kmenu in kde4
[21:19] <Icari|mac> there should be a "search" bar put in hardware in it
[21:21] <jadedtech> there is a 'search for files', that what you meant?
[21:24] <Icari|mac> a search bar on top of the menu
[21:25] <jadedtech> three is no search 'bar'
[21:25] <jadedtech> there....
[21:26] <Icari|mac> make sure you are looking in kickoff and not the other menu
[21:26] <Icari|mac> you can add kickoff by right clicking on the desktop and adding a widget
[21:26] <jadedtech> hmm...perhaps we need to clarify some things.  I am not in kde.
[21:28] <Icari|mac> then why are you in #kubuntu?
[21:28] <Icari|mac> there is a #ubuntu for gnome users
[21:29] <jadedtech> see....learning all kinds of stuff.....new to IRC as well.....kde is only an option on bootup although when I shutdown/reboot it does say kubuntu....
[21:30] <Icari|mac> sounds like you installed gnome in kubuntu
[21:30] <Icari|mac> which makes it more like ubuntu
[21:31] <jadedtech> odd as I think I did the opposite.  This was a 9.10TLS install that was upgraded.  I do recall something about me 'adding kde' but perhaps I was mistaken.  Wow, lot of fun tonight, might explain a few other things too...
[21:32] <jadedtech> thanks, I'll hop on over to another channel....although no plain $#ubuntu in the effnet list, but found others.
[21:32] <Icari|mac> .... this is freenode :P
[21:33] <Icari|mac> i wonder where those people went to that were helping me before....
[21:41] <nerdy_kid> hi everybody, i just reinstalled KDE after much painful toil, but plasma-desktop wont run on login, and when i try to install plasma-desktop apt-get says it has no version and is therefore missing or obsolete. ??? please someone help!
[21:43] <nerdy_kid> at least can someone tell me if sudo apt-get reinstall plasma-desktop returns any errors?
[21:43] <nerdy_kid> on their pc
[21:47] <nerdy_kid> sorry thats sudo apt-get --reinstall install plasma-desktop
[21:56] <nerdy_kid> come on people! #ubuntu isnt helping!
[22:01] <Icari|mac> i have to go i got the wired network working somehow, i will check back in tomorrow for more help
[22:17] <arreche> hello
[22:17] <arreche> is there any repo of kde trunk?
[22:21] <paulsomebody_> arreche: Maybe you need to check kde.org for KDE 4.4 SC binaries?
[22:26] <Scunizi> How do I change the network name of my computer?
[22:28] <arreche> paulsomebody_: thanks. I'm thinking in installing opensuse factory to start developing...
[22:36] <paulsomebody_> arreche: What is the reasons to?
[22:37] <arreche> I've an slow machine to compile all from the trunk :(
[22:40] <arreche> paulsomebody_: I want to compile only what I need :)
[22:42] <paulsomebody_> arreche: Build service?
[22:43] <paulsomebody_> arreche: They also offer packaging for other distributions.
[22:43] <arreche> daly/weekly snapshots?
[22:44] <paulsomebody_> arreche: Rather no than yes.
[22:45] <Scunizi> whats the name of the partition manager in kubuntu? gparted equivelent?
[22:45] <molecule_> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
[22:45] <arreche> paulsomebody_:  so I guess opensuse factory is my best choise for now
[22:45] <arreche> Scunizi: kparted?
[22:45] <paulsomebody_> arreche: I guess yes.
[22:45] <Scunizi> arreche: that would be too logical :)
[22:45] <paulsomebody_> Scunizi: partitionmanager.
[22:46] <paulsomebody_> Scunizi: Kpatred is too obvious to be true.
[22:46] <Scunizi> paulsomebody_: is partitionmanager also based on "parted" ?
[22:46] <superpiiii> I just installed kde 4.4 beta 2 . windows resizing is not smooth. I already have the nvidia driver enabled
[22:47] <superpiiii> is my gfx card not good enough or is it kde 4.4  or driver limitation?
[22:48] <paulsomebody_> Scunizi: I don't know.
[22:48] <paulsomebody_> superpiiii: Have you rebooted?
[22:48] <superpiiii> paulsomebody_, I have
[22:49] <superpiiii> it is not smooth like in windows
[22:49] <superpiiii> my gfx card is 7300 GT
[22:49] <paulsomebody_> superpiiii: It's rarely *very* smooth.
[22:50] <superpiiii> paulsomebody, can I make it very smooth
[22:51] <paulsomebody> ilumi: I think it depends what you found to be *very* smooth.
[22:56] <superpiiii> paulsomebody, when I resize a window I see big great areas instead of the window content
[22:56] <superpiiii> it seems kde is not drawing the window fast enough
[22:56] <paulsomebody> superpiiii: Maybe you should enable 'Show window contents when resizing' option?
[22:57] <superpiiii> paulsomebody, now it also show it
[22:57] <paulsomebody> superpiiii: Show what?
[22:57] <superpiiii> it shows the content and it is transparent when I resize the window
[22:58] <paulsomebody> superpiiii: Then I have no idea.
[22:59] <paulsomebody> superpiiii: Maybe you should watch some videos from kde.org and decide does that kind of smoothness exists at all?
[23:00] <superpiiii> paulsomebody, there is no video on kde.org
[23:03] <paulsomebody> superpiiii: Oops. Then I think you should seek somewhere else. But I don't know what is to be undertaken if it's your system fault.
[23:32] <danielq_> hello. can anyone do me a favor? I tried to compile and install <IP_ADDRESS>. After compiling successfully, i "sudo make install" but there were only two lines:
[23:32] <danielq_> sh /home/danielq/linux/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/arch/x86/boot/install.sh <IP_ADDRESS> arch/x86/boot/bzImage \
[23:32] <danielq_>                 System.map "/boot"
[23:32] <danielq_> It looks like it failed. why?
[23:49] <super> I like KDE 4.4 so far :-)
[23:49] <super> hope they can make resizing windows easier