[00:00] <sandyd> WinCamXP: which means Pentium3 +
[00:00] <WinCamXP> darn it
[00:00] <aeon-ltd> WinCamXP: there are other distros that go back to i386
[00:01] <WinCamXP> would a Windows 7 comp with 4GB of RAM run a Minecraft server with up to 3 people lagless, or would it be better if I had 8GB?
[00:01] <jiohdi> help! I have no idea what I did but gnome no longer sees my keyboard... icewm and others are still ok
[00:01] <WinCamXP> I'm thinking of upgrading cuz I'm stuck with 2GB...
[00:01] <bastidrazor> !ot | WinCamXP
[00:02] <nonix4> jrib: bug #561390 is even more like it - /boot was mounted manually since fstab was referring to sda instead of sdd; changed that to UUID now, but haven't booted yet because physical access to that host is not available atm in case things go wrong.
[00:02] <velcroshooz> is there a way to get the mail icon to show when there is new mail?
[00:02] <aeon-ltd> WinCamXP: ram is not going to be the limiting factor here, 2gb is fine; the first step is making it work even if it is slow then using something like 'htop' see whats causing the bottleneck
[00:03] <jiohdi> velcroshooz: if you use docky, it has a widget for mail that puts number of new mail on an envelope
[00:04] <nonix4> What kind of permissions is /dev/shm supposed to have?
[00:05] <sandyd> nonix4: drwxrwxrwt
[00:06] <nonix4> hmm, it is missing group/other write. Can/should I just chmod or should I suspect things being mounted in backwards order, that shadows mountpoints?
[00:07] <wjlafrance> Howdy! I'm thinking of using Ubuntu as a router for a hackerspace (too many users for a traditional router), but I'm wondering if I should use a more specialized distro?
[00:07] <DarkAcap> hello
[00:07] <sandyd> nonix: it should have nosuid permissions
[00:07] <badger32d> wjlafrance, I would look at smoothwall/monowall/pfsense
[00:07] <sandyd> fstab line should be "shm                     /dev/shm        tmpfs           nodev,nosuid,noexec     0 0"
[00:07] <joeoshawa> better
[00:07] <Pyscho> good evening, i was wondering if you can tell me what packages i need for libcurl, gnutls, and libpcre
[00:07] <joeoshawa> sorry about that
[00:07] <wjlafrance> badger32d, are those software or distros?
[00:08] <badger32d> wjlafrance, all distro's.
[00:09] <wjlafrance> badger32d, so you don't recommend ubuntu? Basically we have a wireless router we'd repurpose as an AP and then use a nix box right behind the modem
[00:09] <nonix4> sandyd: there is no fstab line for it at all, but /proc/mounts does list it, as does /etc/mtab
[00:10] <badger32d> wjlafrance, ubuntu is fine, and I've used it with iptables and squid, but if all you want is a routeros, then those are created just for routering as it were. Also, I think smoothwall has a nice easy to use gui
[00:10] <joeoshawa> every time i reboot i have to log in and out and plug in and unplug my wires for my network on this machine to get it to connect to the internet
[00:10] <badger32d> wjlafrance, and by gui, I ment a web front end
[00:10] <joeoshawa> anyone know how to fix this
[00:10] <wjlafrance> badger32d, thanks for the information. :)
[00:11] <badger32d> no problem man, good luck with the hackerspace!
[00:11] <joeoshawa> its really driving me up the wall
[00:12] <bazhang> joeoshawa, next time try sudo dhclient eth0
[00:12] <joeoshawa> lemme write that down
[00:13] <joeoshawa> eeek wow hardcopy eeewwww
[00:13] <joeoshawa> so sudo dhclient eth0
[00:14] <joeoshawa> just to be sure
[00:14] <GeekMan> i got a question if i move to fedora with kde will most of my user data still be avalible if i install that over ubuntu
[00:14] <bazhang> joeoshawa, yep
[00:14] <bazhang> GeekMan, separate home partition?
[00:14] <epzil0n> hey gus
[00:14] <badger32d> GeekMan, backup /home if it is not a seperate partition.
[00:15] <epzil0n> guys
[00:15] <GeekMan> oh ok
[00:15] <intrader> Anyone, I have done`sudo apt-get install --reinstall msttcorefonts` -- that works. I am rebooting. Thanks
[00:15] <epzil0n> if someone comes here asking for me..
[00:15] <GeekMan> ok
[00:15] <epzil0n> pls give them this link
[00:15] <bazhang> GeekMan, and really ask in #fedora as the would know if the installer allows keeping the home partition
[00:15] <epzil0n> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[00:15] <epzil0n> al the instructions are there
[00:16] <epzil0n> ok?
[00:16] <bazhang> epzil0n, no need, really
[00:16]  * epzil0n have to go to sleep now
[00:16] <GeekMan> you have to register with the server
[00:16] <epzil0n> yeah but i helped out
[00:16] <epzil0n> that's the thing
[00:16] <bots> some of my startup applications are not starting anymore
[00:16] <bazhang> GeekMan, then do so, its easy
[00:17] <epzil0n> so be friendy m8ts
[00:17] <epzil0n> and cheerz
[00:17] <bots> they are still listed as startup apps, but they dont start
[00:17] <epzil0n> byebye n take care
[00:17] <bots> I had a reboot that took forever earlier, seemed like something was wrong
[00:17] <joeoshawa> bazhang, you think maybe its a timing issue with dhcp?
[00:18] <bazhang> joeoshawa, not sure, but that should do it
[00:18] <joeoshawa> now thats funky that put a big message across my screen
[00:19] <GeekMan> i here in april the gui is changing
[00:19] <nonix4> jrib, sandyd: Thanks :) Kludged around the bug by adding permissions to /dev/shm for current user's group (only, since I guess those perms will get reset on boot and I don't need other users on that system on this boot anyway)
[00:19] <jiohdi> help! I have no idea what I did but gnome no longer sees my keyboard... icewm and others are still ok
[00:19] <GeekMan> *hear
[00:20] <badger32d> GeekMan, is that why you are switching to fedora?
[00:20] <joeoshawa> btw for people having firefox crashing problems it's the google search tool  in your search toolbar
[00:20] <jiohdi> how do I get it back?
[00:20] <GeekMan> not entirly
[00:20] <joeoshawa> remove it and it will probably stop crashing
[00:20] <badger32d> GeekMan: you realize you don't have to switch, also you can install KDE in ubuntu, no distro hopping needed.
[00:21] <Dashkal> Is there a quick way to get ubuntu to cough up what arch I installed?  I have no idea if I'm x86 or amd64 on this machine.
[00:21] <AlexandreMBM> Nautilus require password for Windows share in loop. Help?
[00:21] <GeekMan> whats the most efficent way to install kde
[00:21] <bastidrazor> Dashkal: uname -m
[00:21] <joeoshawa> i might kill my ubuntu 32 bit for a install of debian to play with all the alternative window managers logins and just plain tinkering
[00:21] <jiohdi> AlexandreMBM: sometimes its just your root password
[00:22] <Dashkal> bastidrazor: danke
[00:22] <bastidrazor> GeekMan: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:22] <bastidrazor> Dashkal: you're welcome
[00:22] <GeekMan> usaly i do it and i get all kinda strange oddities cause its not originally installed first
[00:22] <joeoshawa> just don't install enlightenment
[00:22] <joeoshawa> it made my system go crasy
[00:22] <GeekMan> i suppose maybe the last time i tired changing gui's i was linilliterit
[00:22] <joeoshawa> crazy
[00:23] <GeekMan> *fail
[00:23] <GeekMan> lin-illiterate
[00:23] <AlexandreMBM> jiohdi, No. It is the share password. I see a bug ticket but I don't know the solution and I lost the link page.
[00:23] <GeekMan> what if i want plasma kde
[00:23] <anigma> okey, so basically I just tried copying an img file to a USB  stick. I unmounted it first and did dd=/file/path of=/dev/usb...  That's about it, right? It doesn't matter what kind of img file  it is as long as it is an img file?
[00:25] <badger32d> GeekMan, google can help, but if I remember right sudo apt-get install kde-desktop will get you kde.
[00:25] <GeekMan> or does the current kubuntu have plasma i havent used it in ages
[00:25] <marko> hi
[00:25] <GeekMan> kk sry for mind less questions
[00:25] <badger32d> GeekMan, kubuntu has plasma, but installing Kde-desktop also gets you that same environment
[00:25] <bazhang> GeekMan, kubuntu-desktop is the package and yes it has plasma
[00:25] <GeekMan> k cool will try thanks
[00:26] <badger32d> thanks bazhang for the package name, good luck GeekMan
[00:26] <GeekMan> how long you think it should take
[00:26] <bazhang> GeekMan, similarly lubuntu-desktop , xubuntu-desktop and others will do
[00:26] <bazhang> GeekMan, depends on your download speed, I suppose
[00:26] <badger32d> GeekMan, with a good pipe, not too long.
[00:26] <_vladt> I have an ubuntu box that I use to do various functions that is connected to an intranet without being connected to the internet. I want to install certain packages on it, is there an easy way to download all the packages I need and the dependencies for them? Does apt-get -d download them to the local directory or will I have to wade through the pkg directory to find them?
[00:27] <badger32d> I think with a 5 meg link, it took about 30 minutes to download and install
[00:27] <_vladt> I want to download a good number of pakcages, so I want to avoid having to wade through the pkg directory
[00:27] <magicianlord> apt-get -d will do it
[00:27] <bazhang> _vladt, set up an apt-mirror? aptoncd? /msg ubottu offline as well
[00:28] <Kroplex> Will ubuntu desktop work on my laptop?
[00:28] <nofrillz> yes
[00:28] <Jordan_U> Kroplex: Yes.
[00:28] <_vladt> bazhang: aptoncd sounds like that's it. Thanks!
[00:28] <anigma> okey, so basically I just tried copying an img file to a USB  stick. I unmounted it first and did dd=/file/path of=/dev/usb...  That's about it, right? It doesn't matter what kind of img file  it is as long as it is an img file?
[00:28] <nofrillz> it might be a bitch finding wifi drivers for it though, Kroplex
[00:29] <Kroplex> yea that is my problem why i was asking
[00:29] <nofrillz> i would look up wifi drivers for your laptop before installing desktop
[00:29] <Kroplex> i can't connect with an ethernet cord directly to the router and i cant connect w/ wifi
[00:29] <bazhang> anigma, image of what
[00:29] <KM0201> Kroplex: do you know what your wifi device is?
[00:29] <conor_> i'm trying to add a wildcard domain (not the right way to say this) to my machine.. essentially, when i try to go to 'proto://foo', i want my system to try 'foo' first, but then 'foo.bar.net' if the plain hostname doesn't resolve.. any ideas?
[00:29] <GeekMan> who uses Guake terminal
[00:29] <Jordan_U> anigma: '.img' isn't really a file format. What was the image exactly?
[00:30] <GeekMan> sry thats off topic
[00:30] <Kroplex> yea hold on KM0201 ill get it
[00:30] <Ashlebede> O_O
[00:30] <nofrillz> linux wifi driver (your laptop model here)
[00:30] <nofrillz> ^stick that in google
[00:31] <neuroaccela> I use Guake, Geekman, bound to ~, of course. I've been spoiled by years of FPS gaming.
[00:31] <Kroplex> its a Marvell TOPDOG PCI-Express (EC85)...
[00:31] <GeekMan> :P
[00:31] <Kroplex> umm, how would i go about installing the wifi driver once in linux?
[00:31] <nofrillz> make
[00:31] <nofrillz> make install
[00:31] <nofrillz> reboot
[00:31] <GeekMan> \fly "you feel lighter"
[00:32] <neuroaccela> I use Guake as my primary terminal, actually, unless I need to do something across multiple terminals. I'd prefer separate windows over tabbed terminal windows.
[00:32] <GeekMan> \fly "gravity brings you down"
[00:32] <chovynz> so, how do I get a program to run everytime I boot up, without having to login? I'm using command line. No gui.
[00:32] <joeoshawa> has there been any gui made for mouse settings that deals with mouse wheel sensitivity
[00:32] <nofrillz> use a daemon
[00:33] <chovynz> I did some crontab the other day but that didn't work the next time I booted.
[00:33] <GeekMan> i finished the down load now its aking what i want to use as my default disp man
[00:33] <pedro> hello
[00:33] <pedro> hola
[00:33] <pedro> buenas noches
[00:34] <nofrillz> disp?
[00:34] <AlexandreMBM> Don't work: http://ubuntu-install.blogspot.com/2009/07/mount-networkdrive-in-save-way.html
[00:34] <GeekMan> display
[00:34] <dtcrshr> hello! im trying to do a recodmydesktop with a command line, but i cannot specify the height width currectly with arguments, it always say my screen size is AxB, even if i set alower screen size than AxB
[00:35] <joeoshawa> why would anyone want to autologin to a machine with no xserver
[00:35] <GeekMan> ?
[00:36] <Aikar> i need help. the WUBI windows installer is not installing correctly. i selected H: partition and it installed everything there, but when i try to boot ubuntu its trying to load the disk from my K: partition which doesnt have any unbutu files on it... how can i fix where grub is pointing to?
[00:36] <chovynz> joeoshawa: talking about my question?
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Aikar: Wubi does not support installing to a partition other than C:
[00:36] <joeoshawa> yes
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Aikar: Why not just do a normal install?
[00:36] <Aikar> Jordan_U: then why is there a drop down asking where to install it
[00:36] <joeoshawa> sounds kind of risky
[00:36] <GeekMan> true dat i used wubi its pretty cool for what it is
[00:36] <KM0201> Aikar: because its going to install on a virtual disk.
[00:37] <chovynz> joeoshawa: I have an ubuntu server box, but the commands are not ubuntu server. They are ubuntu command line. Just so happens that I have no gui.
[00:37] <Aikar> well theres a new wubi out that lets you install on other partitions
[00:37] <KM0201> Aikar: i hope you're aware of the inherent problems that wubi can/does cause... you might want to reconsider using it.
[00:37] <Aikar> but my problem is how do i fix grub to point to the correct partition with my virtual disk
[00:38] <joeoshawa> yes but server works without login no
[00:38] <GeekMan> it shouldnt be using grub it uses windows boot manager
[00:38] <joeoshawa> you only log in to admin the sytem
[00:38] <joeoshawa> system
[00:38] <Aikar> windows then grub
[00:38] <GeekMan> if i remeber right
[00:38] <ct529_> joeoshawa: you have to login always I think ....
[00:39] <GeekMan> oh XP
[00:39] <Jordan_U> Aikar: Because they are irresponsible not to have removed the option.
[00:39] <Jordan_U> Aikar: Why not just do a normal install?
[00:40] <chovynz> joeoshawa: yes, but I need to get them to run everytime. Do you know how to answer my question?
[00:40] <GeekMan> its diffrent cause with wubi your not suposed to change your partitions which is why i used it
[00:40] <Aikar> Jordan_U: will a normal install resize partition and add entry to windows bootloader too?
[00:40] <Jordan_U> Aikar: Yes.
[00:40] <Aikar> ok
[00:40] <GeekMan> its all under the windows partitions
[00:40] <Aikar> bah gotta burn a cd is why i wanted to do wubi :p
[00:40] <joeoshawa> sorry no i don't my brother was admin for many servers they all worked on bootup
[00:41] <chovynz> joeoshawa: before I login. e.g. start specific program before anyone logs in, so that users can login to that program. :)
[00:41] <GeekMan> usb?
[00:41] <Jordan_U> Aikar: You can also use a flash drive.
[00:41] <Aikar> dont have an extra to wipe to put it on
[00:41] <GeekMan> yeah when i first read about wubi i thought the same thing
[00:41] <Aikar> ill just grab a cd lol
[00:42] <GeekMan> lol
[00:42] <izinucs> When you "x" Rhythmbox the music keeps playing.. isn't there suppose to be an icon on a bar someplace to recall the interface?
[00:42] <KM0201> izinucs: i believe its in notification area
[00:42] <joeoshawa> then you need to put the programs in the startup like on any os
[00:43] <izinucs> KM0201: that area would be up by the clock?
[00:43] <KM0201> izinucs: affirmative
[00:43] <joeoshawa> there is a file that tells linux which programs to start when it boots and when put it in there
[00:43] <aflyingturtle> nickserv aflyingturtle
[00:43] <chovynz> joeoshawa: so how do I do that in command line syntax?
[00:43] <aflyingturtle> oops
[00:43] <izinucs> KM0201: nothing there :(
[00:43] <KM0201> izinucs: hmm
[00:43] <joeoshawa> one sec
[00:43] <aflyingturtle> does anyone know how to connect to a wireless network from terminal?
[00:44] <Ashlebede> o_o
[00:44] <aflyingturtle> what...
[00:44] <gpm> i use dvorak and i'm wondering if there's a way to make guest session use qwerty while keeping dvorak as my default layout? if not, where do i file the bug?
[00:44] <GeekMan> i should have asked this before i installed if i wanted to go back to gnome is it the same programs and all
[00:44] <Aikar> and figures when i need a CD-RW i cant find one
[00:44] <Aikar> i got a big stack
[00:44] <ct529_> chovynz: do you want to run services automatically?
[00:45] <ct529_> chovynz: or run services on demand without logging in?
[00:45] <izinucs> KM0201: ah.. they made a change in 10.10.. quirky.. you have to click the speaker in the notification appelate to see the options that are there.. How un-intuitive..
[00:45] <badger32d> aflyingturtle: check out iwconfig / wpa_supplicant. those are the two programs that will help you
[00:45] <KM0201> izinucs: i'll be darned, i had proably clicked that a zillion times, and never noticed that
[00:45] <chovynz> ct529_: if by services you mean programs like mysql (everytime I bootup, before login) then yes.
[00:45] <GeekMan> aikar: i whouldnt use cdrw's impo
[00:45] <ct529_> chovynz: yes, those are services
[00:46] <jukas_> can anyone help me?
[00:46] <ct529_> chovynz: then you can use different approaches
[00:46] <izinucs> KM0201: yea.. I've been on ubuntu since 5.10 and there's been tons of changes since then.. it's a game of "Keep-up"
[00:46] <chovynz> ct529_: Ok. yes. those are what I mean. Someone told me of a crontab the other day, but when I rebooted it did not work.
[00:46] <ct529_> chovynz: what distro do you have installed? ubuntu what?
[00:46] <jukas_> im trying to install gst-plugins-base-0.10.30 but i cant do the command make
[00:46] <chovynz> ubuntu 10.10 server
[00:46] <GeekMan> 5.10 iv been since 7.04
[00:46] <mattt_> Is it possible to boot from lvm/raid0?
[00:47] <ct529_> chovynz: you should be able to configure them over command line in /etc/init
[00:47] <ct529_> chovynz: or on the various /etc/rc.xxx
[00:47] <Aikar> GeekMan: cd-rws are usually great for OS installs, why?
[00:48] <jukas_> make[3]: Entering directory `/home/jukas/Downloads/gst-plugins-base-0.10.30/gst/adder'
[00:48] <jukas_>   ORCC   tmp-orc.c
[00:48] <jukas_> /usr/local/bin/orcc: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/bin/orcc: undefined symbol: orc_parse_full
[00:48] <jukas_> make[3]: *** [tmp-orc.c] Error 127
[00:48] <chovynz> I've just ls /etc/init. Do I need to create a new file called something.conf in that dir so that it will autorun?
[00:48] <jukas_> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/jukas/Downloads/gst-plugins-base-0.10.30/gst/adder'
[00:48] <FloodBot2> jukas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <ubun> i think i installed a plugin... but how do i use it
[00:48] <ct529_> chovynz: there is one /etc/rcX.d for each runlevel, choose the one that works better for you
[00:48] <GeekMan> i had issues in the past
[00:48]  * KM0201 agrees w/ GeekMan use CD-r's
[00:48] <joeoshawa> ct529_ i was going to show him this is this what he needs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246791
[00:49] <KM0201> i'm not saying RW's can't/won't work.. but over the years, whenever i had a problem w/ an install disk, it was an RW.
[00:49] <jukas_> anyone know why this is happening
[00:49] <bazhang> gir1.0-gst-plugins-base-0.10  jukas was it this?
[00:49] <GeekMan> after the first burn and wipe your more susceptable to write issues
[00:49] <jukas_> no just gst-plugins-base-0.10.30
[00:49] <badger32d> jukas_ - dont past all that info in here, use pastebin please. that will make it easier to see
[00:49] <Aikar> GeekMan: oh i was gonna use a new one, i meant to use them up instead of a cdr which i use for music usually
[00:49] <chovynz> ct529_: I've just ls /etc/init. Do I need to create a new file called something.conf in that dir so that it will autorun?
[00:49] <bazhang> jukas_, for what. please clarify
[00:50] <bazhang> jukas_, I dont see that in the repos
[00:50] <joeoshawa> ubun what plugin for what program
[00:50] <jukas_> i have to install gst-python-0.10.21
[00:50] <GeekMan> honestly i never use cdrws cause i have issues with them but that was when i was more careless with my disks too ;)
[00:50] <ct529_> chovynz: yes, that is ok .... but you have o learn the syntax of the conf file
[00:50] <badger32d> bazhang, its because ( I think) he is making from source
[00:51] <jukas_> but first i need to have this package
[00:51] <gpm> i use dvorak and i'm wondering if there's a way to make guest session use qwerty while keeping dvorak as my default layout? if not, where do i file the bug?
[00:51] <jukas_> install this package
[00:51] <GeekMan> besides there way over priced now
[00:51] <GeekMan> i think
[00:51] <bazhang> python-gst0.10, python-gst0.10-dev  jukas_ then install them from repos
[00:51] <GeekMan> lol
[00:51] <Aikar> so 10.10 got cool new stuff and should go with that right? noticed wubi was installing 10.4 but i like new shit :(
[00:51] <bazhang> Aikar, language please
[00:51] <chovynz> interesting. There is already mysql.conf.
[00:52] <chovynz> I wonder if I was logging in wrongly.
[00:52] <jukas_> ok let me see..
[00:52] <ct529_> chovynz: otherwise you could put a wrapper aroudn your script into the /etc/rcX.d of the lrunlevel X at which you would like to run your script.
[00:52] <GeekMan> lol so he likes new poo theres wierder things :D
[00:52] <Kroplex> would anybody mind helping me find a wifi driver for my computer? need it for linux, and maybe a tip on how to install it
[00:52] <joeoshawa> gpm each login uses its own settings if you change the keyboard in the  new username it should stick
[00:52] <bazhang> jukas_, please check the package manager before going outside and getting 3rd party sources, or compiling
[00:52]  * badger32d lol @ GeekMan
[00:52] <ct529_> chovynz: or your script directly .... coocle for "starting services /etc/init" or "starting services /etc/rc"
[00:53] <KM0201> Kroplex: we need to know the device... do ou know what chipset is on it?
[00:53] <iIlL10oO> server cli , how to detect the fastest sources server ?
[00:53] <ct529_> sorry, Ihave to go .... 1am here good night!
[00:53] <chovynz> ct thanks man
[00:53] <GeekMan> like zebra fetish but im not about to go there people
[00:53] <joeoshawa> gpm and if it doesnt' then you can add a keyboard widget using add to panel
[00:53] <badger32d> hey, whats wrong with zebra's?
[00:53] <GeekMan> nothing
[00:54] <badger32d> exactly!
[00:54] <joeoshawa> let me check that
[00:54] <GeekMan> haha i have finished the install of justice HAHA
[00:54] <badger32d> justice?
[00:54] <Kroplex> im sorry i disconnected.
[00:55] <GeekMan> yes KDE THE JUSTICE HAS ITS WAY
[00:55] <KM0201> Kroplex: can i pm you?
[00:55] <slkwr> guys the command /ignore * joi/ns quits parts nicks ... is not working on empathy
[00:55] <Kroplex> Yes
[00:55] <GeekMan> :P XD
[00:55] <slkwr> are there any aternatives?
[00:55] <badger32d> ahh, yes KDE. Lemme know how you like it.
[00:55] <gpm> joeoshawa: i'm talking about for the guest session....does it just inherit the layout from the user that starts it?
[00:55] <ubun> joeoshawa: sorry i meant to put that in #gimp im logged into both... but its in gimp and its liquid rescale
[00:55] <bazhang> slkwr, to empathy, sure many
[00:55] <badger32d> GeekMan: I havent used it for a while, since 4.3 I think
[00:55] <slkwr> how to stop empathy from showing join and quits notifications?
[00:55] <GeekMan> i started linux on kde
[00:55] <GeekMan> suse
[00:55] <jukas_> thanks this was very helpful one more question howcan i able the webcam on emesene?
[00:55] <rww> GeekMan: #ubuntu is a support channel. If you want to chit chat, please do it in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:55] <GeekMan> :(
[00:55] <badger32d> GeekMan: I started linux on slaxkde back in the day. Sorry rww, I brought him into this
[00:56] <ubun> no one in #gimp room....
[00:56] <Ashlebede> badger32d: Isn't 4.3 the *current* version ?
[00:56] <iIlL10oO> how to list all the sources server address , I want to write an ruby script to detect speed
[00:56] <Ashlebede> o_O
[00:56] <neuroaccela> I'd like to change from the GUI login screen to a login console that will then take me to the x session. Essentially, I'd like to log in in CL and be automatically brought to GUI after login. I'm on 10.10. What should I do?
[00:56] <GeekMan> i have created a diversion to the true meaning of support away i go WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[00:56] <izinucs> ubun: #gimp is on another server..
[00:56] <ubun> yes i know
[00:56] <badger32d> Ashlebede, I ment 3.3, sorry reading and typing is my new thing
[00:56] <ubun> no one on there
[00:56] <slkwr> bazhang: how do stop those notification messages?
[00:56] <Ashlebede> D:
[00:56] <joeoshawa> gpm it uses the default keyboard you set on install but as soon as you add the new layout to keyboard it puts a keyboard icon to switch in the upper taskbar
[00:56] <Aikar> if i want ubuntu to resize a current partition thats NOT my current C: drive and install to that disk, would i choose "install alongside" or specify partitions manually
[00:56]  * badger32d waves bye to GeekMan
[00:56] <izinucs> ubun: so what are you trying to do with gimp?
[00:56] <GeekMan> bye
[00:57] <joeoshawa> so your users can use either one
[00:57] <ubun> i downloaded a plugin i think i installed it but dont know where it is or how to use it
[00:57] <bazhang> slkwr, in empathy? sorry I thought you meant an alternative irc client
[00:57] <gpm> joeoshawa: guest session also seems to be inheriting my startup programs (docky, gnome-do), i wonder if there's a way to disable THAT!
[00:57] <izinucs> ubun: hang on a sec and I"ll check the manual on where it's suppose to go.
[00:58] <gpm> the keyboard thing is semi-solved by the panel widget/applet/whatever
[00:58] <joeoshawa> not sure
[00:58] <gpm> yeah
[00:58] <gpm> that's trickier
[00:58] <ubun> izinucs: thanks
[00:58] <badger32d> gpm - make a guest account out of the question? not to step on your toes joeoshawa
[00:58] <prezident> hello world ....i have a dell xps one and every time i put in a cd the cd gets stuck until i turn off my computer is their any way i can fix this annoying situation?
[00:58] <slkwr> bazhang: no it's ok :) ...thanks
[00:58] <gpm> badger32d: no, i really like the guest account, i just wish it were more tweakable.
[00:58] <joeoshawa> that can be a problem tho but they will get there own settings lol
[00:58] <gpm> badger32d: but i guess that's the price you pay when /home is on /tmp and you're not a "real" user
[00:59] <badger32d> gpm: gotcha, thought you were using the guest session option from the menu
[00:59] <joeoshawa> not a problem at all jump in you guys know more then me
[00:59] <joeoshawa> honest lol
[00:59] <izinucs> ubun: what was the extension on the plugin?
[00:59] <gpm> yeah from the logout/reboot/etc menu
[00:59] <badger32d> gpm: woah, guess I missed the first part of that. Sounds like an interesting setup
[00:59] <gpm> no, i'm pretty sure i read somewhere that that's how the devs implemented the guest account
[00:59] <gpm> i'll see if i can pull up the page
[01:00] <Accelerator> COCO PUFFS!!
[01:00] <badger32d> gpm: huh, never used it. it brought my docky in too just now
[01:00] <izinucs> ubun: use my nick at the beginning of the line so it highlights me when you answer.. I'm multi-tasking right now.
[01:00] <gpm> badger32d: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Intrepid/GuestAccount
[01:00] <gpm> badger32d: it's a cool feature.
[01:01] <gpm> needs some refinin' though
[01:01] <gpm> :-/
[01:01] <prezident> can anyone help me with a stuck cd ?
[01:01] <badger32d> gpm, it seems so! I like that option, just never needed to use it
[01:01] <jetboyjetgirl> is anything extra as far as anti-virus/anti-malware needed or recommended for ubuntu 10.10?
[01:01] <gpm> now i just need to figure out where to file the bug...
[01:01] <jpr133> ya trick ya
[01:02] <badger32d> jetboyjetgirl, not really - but you could check out clamav if you really want it
[01:02] <joeoshawa> you could make a guest account problem is it will have to be passworded lol
[01:02] <jetboyjetgirl> ok, thanks badger32d
[01:02] <maco> jetboyjetgirl: generally the use for AV on linux systems is if its a mail server and you want to scan for viruses so they dont reach your windows users
[01:02] <gpm> joeoshawa: i can't parse that sorry
[01:03] <badger32d> gpm, maybe a dumb question, but do you have root access?
[01:03] <gpm> badger32d: only through sudo
[01:03] <gpm> but yeah i'm the boss
[01:03] <badger32d> maco: agreed, but I use it to scan removable media that goes too and from windows machines
[01:03] <maco> badger32d: fair nuff. still for the protection of windows users though
[01:04] <badger32d> ok, well you could always just make another user account with limited privs for guest access
[01:04] <badger32d> maco: agreed
[01:04] <gpm> oh yeah
[01:04] <gpm> but i doubt i could do it as slickly as them
[01:04] <chovynz> nice feature on the guest account gpm
[01:04] <prezident> hello
[01:04] <maco> did the the guest login thing go away?
[01:04] <gpm> and i'm sure they'd at least listen to my plight
[01:04] <maco> there was a sandboxed guest login thing implemented a few years ago...
[01:04] <badger32d> gpm: them?
[01:05] <gpm> well, that's what i'm trying to figure out...which package provides the guest acct
[01:05] <badger32d> maco, thats what we are discussing. But it has some control issues. Not a whole lot of tweaking possible
[01:05] <maco> badger32d: apparmor / policykit?
[01:05] <gpm> it's not even a bug
[01:05] <gpm> just a feature request
[01:06] <gpm> a wishlist bug as they say on debbugs
[01:06] <tgp1994> Can anyone tell me how I can have teamviewer start up right when my ubuntu box starts up?
[01:06] <badger32d> maco: dont know much about either one of those
[01:06] <gpm> maco: good guesses
[01:06] <nickkontos> hello guys, a simple question: alt+f2 opens a run dialog in ubuntu... what is the name of this appication? googled it with no luck...
[01:06] <gpm> i think it uses apparmor
[01:06] <Guest96154> hi all, how do i make vino available from the internet?
[01:06] <gpm> but i'm not sure
[01:06] <gpm> and it's hard to find out where best to direct my request...
[01:07] <maco> gpm: yes for the sandboxing it should. and policykit lets you do fine-grained permissions
[01:07] <badger32d> nickkontos, I've always referred to it as the run dialog. thats what its called as far as I know
[01:07] <bastidrazor> nickkontos: its not a seperate application.. its part of gnome-panel
[01:07] <gpm> it's all so damn slick
[01:07] <maco> gpm: system -> admin -> authorizations should be where to find policykit stuff
[01:07] <joeoshawa> guest96154 use a website like youtube
[01:07] <badger32d> bastidrazor, ah, yes.
[01:08] <nickkontos> badger32d, bastidrazor so if gnome panel isn't running I can't call it any other way?...
[01:08] <gpm> maco: i don't have that menu item. do you know which package provides it?
[01:08] <badger32d> maco: hmm, now I'm going to have to check that out more. interested!
[01:08] <Guest96154> joeoshawa...what? umm yea..can i get an answer from someone who ISN'T suckin meth from the bathtub?
[01:08] <bastidrazor> nickkontos: not that i'm aware of.
[01:08] <badger32d> nickkontos, what *is* running?
[01:08] <maco> gpm: hrmm...something with a similar name in the menu? im not a gnome user so im going by a 2-year-old memory
[01:09]  * badger32d thinks Guest96154 is not getting much help with that attitude
[01:09] <joeoshawa> gust9614 you asked how to make a video available on the net right?
[01:09] <maco> nickkontos: correct
[01:09] <Guest96154> no
[01:09] <Guest96154> joe
[01:09] <Guest96154> vino
[01:09] <Guest96154> not video
[01:09] <joeoshawa> or did i read that wrong
[01:09] <FloodBot2> Guest96154: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <maco> nickkontos: you could install krunner if you dont mind having a kde app handle it
[01:09] <joeoshawa> sorry i read it wrong
[01:09] <Guest96154> no worries
[01:09] <Guest96154> sorry for being a douchebag then
[01:09] <zakwilson> People, Guest96154 wants to order wine on the internet.
[01:09] <Guest96154> :)
[01:09] <joeoshawa> my mistake
[01:09] <chovynz> so if I understood correctly, I create a file in /etc/init called mediatomb.conf and in that I write mediatomb -d, and this will run at boottime before anyone logs in?
[01:09] <gpm> maco: maybe they chucked it....closest thing is users and groups
[01:09] <tgp1994> Can anyone tell me how I can have teamviewer start up right when my ubuntu box starts up?
[01:10] <maco> nickkontos: oh....thatd involve installing the full kde workspace... rmph
[01:10] <maco> gpm: used to both be there
[01:10] <Guest96154> no, vino, ya know..vnc for gnome
[01:10] <ekim> I didnt think teamviewer works with linux!  Does it?
[01:10] <gpm> maco: you into kde now or something more minimal?
[01:10] <maco> gpm: kde
[01:10] <tgp1994> ekim: Yup, check teamviewer's site :)
[01:11] <gpm> maco: it's not in there.
[01:11] <maco> gpm: um policykit-1-gnome and policykit-desktop-privileges both installed?
[01:11] <nickkontos> badger32d, avant-window-navigator, see this http://tinyurl.com/4l5mlg7
[01:11] <gpm> maco: yeah
[01:12] <badger32d> Ohhh, yeah. I use awn. Uh, you could try using synapse - its like gnome-do - and you can run commands from it
[01:12] <badger32d> standby for link
[01:12] <maco> gpm: try the good ol' start-typing-policy-and-hitting-tab thing?
[01:13] <badger32d> nickkontos: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/synapse-gnome-do-launcher-app-review-ubuntu/ -- this will let you have much of the same use as alt f2 did, and so much more
[01:13] <gpm> whoa a jaka program called policytool
[01:13] <gpm> java
[01:13] <gpm> only match
[01:13] <gpm> crazy
[01:13] <ekim> tgp1994:  thanks I will!
[01:13] <gpm> even for pol
[01:13] <nickkontos> badger32d, yeah, I know thanks, just don't like the looks of it...
[01:14] <badpenguin86> how do i move ppas from one installation to another?
[01:14] <gpm> whatever i'll just post a feature request for policykit and see what happens
[01:14] <gpm> not enough time to keep investigating
[01:14] <chovynz> lol . man kill. Anyone ever think what they were typing in unix?
[01:15] <joeoshawa> so is there a program i can install or a setting somewhere for mouse wheel sensitivity?
[01:15] <ekim> tgp1994:  not seeing on their site where it works with linux.  Gotta link or user manual?
[01:15] <tgp1994> ekim: Uhm, go to teamviewer's site, go to downloads, then click on the Linux button.
[01:16] <badger32d> nickkontos, bummer. I love it, not sure if there is another "slimmer" version that is more like alt-f2. I understand the desire to be rid of gnome-panel though.
[01:16] <joeoshawa> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx
[01:16] <joeoshawa> for ekim
[01:18] <chovynz> I'm trying to stop a service that is running. How do I go about it? (mediatomb. It gets started by mediatomb -d, which runs the daemon)
[01:19] <chovynz> kill isn't ... more to teh point i dont know how to use kill
[01:20] <nickkontos> badger32d found gmrun - in love :)
[01:21] <blinkjonesy2011> hey
[01:21] <gpm> maco, badger32d, joeoshawa: thanks for help
[01:21] <aflyingturtle> badger left
[01:21] <blinkjonesy2011> never used this before
[01:21] <blinkjonesy2011> is anyone chatting
[01:21] <aflyingturtle> yup
[01:21] <ekim> thanks for the info and link
[01:21] <blinkjonesy2011> r u guys familiar with backtrack
[01:21] <maco> im still digging. polkit-gnome-authorizations.desktop was in polkit-gnome back in karmic...
[01:22] <TomFarr> every think were non update I see oops!
[01:22]  * GeekMan GIDDY i like it thank you
[01:22] <aflyingturtle> anyone know how to connect to a wireless network from terminal?
[01:22] <TomFarr> wform what terminal?
[01:22] <aflyingturtle> console...
[01:22] <TomFarr> terminated?
[01:22] <aflyingturtle> command line...
[01:23] <jrib> aflyingturtle: nmcli
[01:23] <cc123> anyone know off the top of their heads the command to make a user a sudo user? ive been googling it and just see peopel saying to edit the /etc/sudoers file directly, but i seem to recall there's a quick command for it
[01:23] <TomFarr> ipwf
[01:23] <bastidrazor> cc123:  add the user to the admin group.. sudo adduser username admin
[01:23] <TomFarr> aflyingturtle, you nead the ipwf demon
[01:23] <jrib> aflyingturtle: nmcli is a command line interface to network manager...
[01:24] <cc123> bastidrazor, its saying group admin doesn't exist
[01:24] <cc123> just brought up this new box
[01:24] <jrib> cc123: you're likely not using ubuntu then
[01:24] <cc123> it's ubuntu 10.04
[01:24] <jrib> cc123: how did you install it?
[01:24] <cc123> jrib, rackspace cloud
[01:25] <jrib> cc123: then ask them what they did.  Or read your /etc/sudoers and try to play detective-what-did-rackspace-do-to-a-default-ubuntu-install
[01:25] <cc123> how can i see what groups are on my system?
[01:26] <jrib> cc123: getent group
[01:26] <cc123> jrip, there's an adm group
[01:26] <cc123> that's not it?
[01:26] <bastidrazor> cc123: that is for reading some logs
[01:27] <jrib> cc123: that's not relevant to your issue... I'd suggest you just read /etc/sudoers...
[01:28] <cc123> ok
[01:28] <Dangr_> l
[01:28] <Dangr_> clear
[01:29] <cc123> jrib, bastidrazor, got it. it was sudo adduser username sudo
[01:29] <Dangr_> clear
[01:29] <aflyingturtle> is there a way to monitor all the commands that an application does as it does them?
[01:29] <Dangr_> CLEAR
[01:29] <jrib> cc123: on your install, not a standard ubuntu install ;)
[01:30] <cc123> thanks for your help
[01:30] <rtdos> my network card is connected to my network and ifconfig tells me that i have an ip address but nothing can connect to the internet.
[01:30] <Jordan_U> Dangr_: Do you need help with something?
[01:30] <Dangr_> Jordan_U: Haha no I was trying to clear the screen but it wasn't working
[01:31] <aflyingturtle> try /clear
[01:31] <Dangr_> Ah
[01:31] <Dangr_> much better thank you, was missing that
[01:31] <aflyingturtle> lol
[01:31] <aflyingturtle> most commands are all starting with a /
[01:31] <aflyingturtle> i think all of them
[01:32] <Dangr_> Yeah I haven't used IRC in years so I am getting to know it again so to speak
[01:32] <aflyingturtle> aah
[01:33] <wjlafrance> How can you force Ubuntu to redetect it's network hardware?
[01:34] <aflyingturtle> well
[01:34] <aflyingturtle> iwconfig
[01:34] <aflyingturtle> might
[01:34] <aflyingturtle> force it to
[01:34] <aflyingturtle> i think it just scans though. not force it to.
[01:35] <aflyingturtle> does anyone know how to monitor what commands an application does?
[01:35] <rtdos>  my network card is connected to my network and ifconfig tells me that i have an ip address but nothing can connect to the internet. i even rebooted. several times. probably causes?
[01:36] <wooter> aflyingturtle, program debugger
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> rtdos, verify that /etc/resolv.conf has your DNS server's IP address
[01:36] <wjlafrance> rtdos, try this: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:36] <wjlafrance> rtdos, that'll see if you can hit Google's servers
[01:37] <aflyingturtle> wooter: thanks
[01:37] <ZykoticK9> wjlafrance, <IP_ADDRESS> google's DNS is a lot easier ;)
[01:39] <pc> hello
[01:39] <Dangr_> hi
[01:39] <dsnyders> Where do I submit suggestions for the desktop people?
[01:39] <pc> how can I use this/
[01:39] <Dangr_> pc: How do you mean
[01:40] <pc> this is first time I join ?
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> pc, do you have an Ubuntu support question?  If so ask away.
[01:40] <pc> I do not know
[01:40] <dsnyders> pc, ask a question.  If someone knows the answer, they will tell you.
[01:40] <Dangr_> pc: Oh, you can talk about anything Ubuntu related - but most people look for support help ehre
[01:40] <Dangr_> *here
[01:40] <buntunub> hey anyone know how to get rid of scratchy/crackling noises when using pulseaudio?
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> Dangr_, incorrect!  Support only here see !ot
[01:40] <buntunub> its annoying as all get out
[01:41] <pc> yes I just downlaoded
[01:41] <xangua> Dangr_: for talking is #ubuntu-offtopic , only support here
[01:41] <pc> and I want to downlaod Gromac 3.1.4
[01:41] <Dangr_> ZykoticK9: my mistake :P just trying to be friendly
[01:41] <dsnyders> pc, Also, when you are replying to a specific person, type in their name and press tab.
[01:42] <linoge> hi, where can i download the firmware for b43 wireless card?
[01:42] <linoge> (broadcom)
[01:42] <bazhang> pc gromacs?
[01:42] <devkorcvince> linoge you can try viewing your restricted drivers?
[01:43] <pc> yes Gromacs
[01:43] <bazhang> pc install from the package manager
[01:43] <dsnyders> bazhang, gromacs looks like a program for visualizing protiens
[01:43] <rtdos> Zykotick9: it does
[01:43] <linoge> devkorcvince: mmm, i installed ubuntu minimal and i don't have a gui so i think.... not
[01:43] <pc> gromacs version 3.1.4 in specific
[01:43] <bazhang> dsnyders, not version three though
[01:43] <rtdos> wjlafrance:i can't but when i run ifconfig it tells me that i am recieving data.
[01:43] <ZykoticK9> rtdos, are you able to ping the outside world?  Or beyond your first router?
[01:44] <bazhang> pc what version of ubuntu are you on
[01:44] <rtdos> hold on let me re-check
[01:44] <devkorcvince> linoge try sudo apt-get install broadcom then hit tab
[01:44] <Jordan_U> !broadcom | linoge
[01:44] <linsos> hallo
[01:45] <dsnyders> pc, you can go to a terminal and type in sudo apt-get gromacs
[01:45] <bazhang> +install
[01:45] <dsnyders> Oops.  I hit enter instead of backspace.
[01:45] <pc> ubutu version 10.10
[01:45] <ZykoticK9> dsnyders, that won't install the specific version pc is asking about...
[01:45] <bazhang> pc sudo apt-get install gromacs
[01:45] <linoge> mmm let me se, i would love to download the firmware from windows (which i'm using now) and install through b43-fwcutter as i always have...
[01:45] <bazhang> pc thats not version 3.1.4 though
[01:46] <pc> I saw it
[01:46] <dsnyders> pc, gromacs is distrubuted as source code tarballs.  You'd have to download the 3.1.4 tarball, unpack it, and then compile it.
[01:46] <linsos> Could everyone help me to tell about ssh server
[01:46] <bazhang> Version 4.0.7-3 pc
[01:46] <pc> that was 4,1,7 something
[01:46] <pc> yes i do not need this
[01:46] <bazhang> pc wh y that particular version please explain
[01:46] <jrib> !ssh | linsos
[01:46] <pc> I want 3.1.4 from the website of grmacs
[01:47] <bazhang> pc why
[01:47] <dsnyders> pc, is their something the 3.14 version does, that the latest version doesn't do?
[01:47] <pc> because I have some files I can not open them unless I use 3.1.4
[01:47] <linoge> ok already found the firmware on the page you gave me Jordan_U, thanks so much
[01:47] <sergiunegara> howdy, does anyone know what font is here: http://irssi.org/themefiles/mithru.png ? thanks in advance
[01:48] <Jordan_U> linoge: You're welcome.
[01:48] <coz_> sergiunegara,  mm thatmight  be a bit difficult off hand
[01:48] <coz_> sergiunegara,  let me check my fonts
[01:48] <dsnyders> pc, check http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Installation_Instructions
[01:49] <linsos> Can everyone help me to pass web filter like fortiguard ?
[01:49] <bazhang> linsos, pass?
[01:49] <rtdos> ZykoticK9: when i ping googles ip i get a unauthorized message so it seems my privs have been corrupted somehow.
[01:49] <pc> I tried from the website but It just saved in my downlaod file
[01:50] <pc> and I can not set up it as a pogram
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> rtdos, "unauthorized" that an odd message... I have NO idea, best of luck.
[01:50] <Snakkah> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 and I'm wondering, do I really NEED the ATI fglrx driver to enable 3D acceleration and use things like Compiz, or can I just opt to not install it?
[01:50] <sergiunegara> coz_: I've tried "what the font" from myfonts.com but it did not give me the right one... :(
[01:51] <xangua> !compile | pc
[01:51] <drunkncrew> so newly joined noob, throwing a wrench in the gears prolly. What exactly would one need an SSH for/
[01:51] <coz_> sergiunegara,   i have mostly default fonts here but for 2  and none of them match although  Americka Sans comes close but not quite the same
[01:51] <pc> I mean i did not work as a program
[01:51] <smallfoot-> drunkncrew, remote administration
[01:51] <bazhang> pc indeed. you need to compile it yourself
[01:51] <bazhang> pc see the link above.
[01:52] <sergiunegara> coz_: thanks anyway for trying to help ^^
[01:52] <coz_> sergiunegara,  it could be a manually installed font....who's screenshot is that?
[01:52] <dsnyders> drunkncrew, ssh allows you to securely connect to another machine.  For example, from work, I can ssh into my home machine and run programs.
[01:52] <FredGeek> hi
[01:52] <pc> thanks I 'll have a look
[01:52] <smallfoot-> well there should be an irc command like !compile http://www.example.com/file.tgz, then bot downloads file, extracts it, compiles it, packages it, and then you can download it and install it
[01:52] <drunkncrew> smallfoot, that makes a bit more sense. remote admin, in the sense of a friend needing help? or remote admin, in that you own your own hardware and need to make changes to it?
[01:53] <FredGeek> why there's no more /proc/pci and /proc/bus/devices on proc filesystem???
[01:53] <smallfoot-> drunkncrew, remote admin that you own a server, and need remotely access it and administrer it
[01:53] <drunkncrew> dsnyders ; Perfectly easily explanation, thank you very much
[01:53] <drunkncrew> smalfoot, thanks again for clarification
[01:54] <smallfoot-> drunkncrew, you install ssh server on your server, then you use ssh client from you desktop to connect and admin
[01:54] <drunkncrew> this is why I love this room, and hell the whole ubuntu community as a whole
[01:54] <dl2agon> finaly got ubuntu install and i give credit it faster then linux i tried in the past ( still know nothing about it but it is faster )
[01:54] <sergiunegara> coz_: it's from irssi themes on their website, theme's name is "mithru"
[01:54] <drunkncrew> everyone willing to take a noob in that area and quickly set them straight
[01:54] <drunkncrew> it's awesome.
[01:55] <niles> which area
[01:55] <coz_> sergiunegara,   ah ok... no indication which font was used?   would it be inside the theme package?
[01:55] <drunkncrew> very few other distro communities are as helpful.
[01:55] <coz_> sergiunegara,  I dont use irssi so I dont know
[01:55] <dsnyders> drunkncrew, ssh is a protocol.  There are various clients and various servers.  If you are trying to connect from a windows machine, I strongly suggest looking into a program called putty.
[01:55] <chd> my wireless adapter wasn't turned on when I booted my laptop and when I turn the physical switch on ubuntu doesn't recognize it. is there a way to manually start that interface?
[01:55] <ascheel> I just finished installing Ubuntu server and while it works fine, the primary monitor does not display anything after installation is complete and it boots to the new primary drive.
[01:55] <Dangr_> Putty is very useful on Windows
[01:56] <Snakkah> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 and I'm wondering, do I really NEED the ATI fglrx driver to enable 3D acceleration and use things like Compiz, or can I just opt to not install it?
[01:56] <ascheel> It is booted up, I can find the ip and ssh into it, but it's annoying that I have nothing on the main screen.  no VGA signal.  I also got the same issue when I was trying to isntall ubuntu desktop
[01:56] <niles> chd: yes, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:56] <niles> as root
[01:56] <drunkncrew> i mainly use my dual boot netbook with windows 7/Ubuntu 11.04.  and then my desktop dual boot with Ubuntu 10.04 and windoze 7
[01:56] <niles> or dhclient
[01:56] <niles> also as root
[01:57] <Dangr_> drunkncrew: Try checking out the man for ssh too, if that wasn't mentioned before, idk
[01:57] <chd> niles it says "networking stop/waiting"
[01:57] <pc> please anybody is expert in Gromacs ????
[01:58] <niles> chd: try dhclient
[01:58] <pc> I am doing simulation and facing a difficulties
[01:58] <niles> chd: or /etc/init.d/networking start
[01:58] <Aginor> Snakkah: some of the ATI cards are supported with the open source driver, you can also run opengl completely in software but it'll use lots of cpu
[01:59] <sergiunegara> coz_: irssi is a terminal based irc client, that I'm using, but the themes can change only the colors, not the fonts, so it's the font used by that guy for terminal, I guess
[01:59] <ascheel> question about Ubuntu server 10.10.  Fresh installation, it's only Ubuntu Server meaning it's only booting to a CLI anyhow, but the video is not displaying.  It worked just fine during the entire installation of server, but the video is not working at all right now.  Anybody know what I can try to modify to get it to recognize this video adapter/
[01:59] <pc> looking for some tips in simulation ..any advise would be appreciated
[01:59] <chd> "since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start networking" then "networking stop/waiting"
[01:59] <dl2agon> how can you change a usr password  from shell ?
[01:59] <niles> sergiunegara: are you using gnome-terminal?
[01:59] <dsnyders> drunkncrew, routers, printers, and other network hardware will frequently have ssh or telnet (similar, but unsecure) interface for remote management.
[01:59] <sergiunegara> niles: yep, why?
[02:00] <AndrewMC> ascheel: try #ubuntu-server
[02:00] <niles> well the font can be changed in preferences
[02:00] <ascheel> AndrewMC: thank you
[02:00] <drunkncrew> dsnyders  - thanks alot man, greatful
[02:00] <drunkncrew> i got the idea now.
[02:00] <coz_> sergiunegara,  ah I see,,, yes I know its a terminal based irc client  but wasnt sure about the themes and what is included  thanks :)
[02:00] <niles> chd: what happends when you use dhclient
[02:01] <sergiunegara> coz_: I wasn't sure as well till a minute ago, while executed cat themefile.theme | grep font :D
[02:01] <coz_> :)
[02:02] <dsnyders> Has anyone used putty for linux?
[02:02] <niles> theres a putty for linux?
[02:02] <niles> kk
[02:03] <niles> oops, wrong channel
[02:03] <pc> I have tired used putty but I could not download it
[02:04] <pc> I use it in vista only
[02:04] <smallfoot-> $ sudo apt-get install putty
[02:04] <niles> pc: wget http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe
[02:04] <smallfoot-> linux binaries available
[02:04] <smallfoot-> dont need wine
[02:05] <Aginor> but why?
[02:05] <niles> or just use ssh......
[02:05] <smallfoot-> yes, just use ssh
[02:06] <niles> ssh user@remotehost
[02:06] <ChipCherou> Just had massive crash during reboot and not kinda stuck.  backup server is running now....whats the best way to repair primary server?
[02:06] <niles> eg, ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:06] <dsnyders> Okay,  putty for linux looks pretty much identical to putty for windows.  Good!  I'm unimpressed with minicom.
[02:06] <ChipCherou> *now
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> pc, you really don't need to use "putty" on linux, open a terminal and use "ssh -Y user@server" for ssh with X forwarding as well
[02:06] <sergiunegara> ssh user:password@host
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> sergiunegara, putting you password like that isn't just a great idea, get put in your history file
[02:07] <niles> yes, ssh niles:make my<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:07] <ZykoticK9> sergiunegara, s/just/such
[02:07] <pc> I just downloaded this ubuntu and many things I need to check
[02:07] <sergiunegara> ZykoticK9: agree, bad idea %)
[02:07] <ChipCherou> better english.  I just had massive crash during an ubuntu upgrade.  Ubuntu won't fully load anymore.  whats the best way to repair this?
[02:07] <dx_> ?
[02:07] <niles> ChipCherou: I can fix this, one sec
[02:07] <dsnyders> ZykoticK9, It does serial and telnet as well.
[02:08] <pc> even the terminal I do not no how to open it
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> dsnyders, for those uses fine i agree
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> dsnyders, actually telnet is terrible!
[02:08] <dsnyders> ZykoticK9, True.  However, so is minicom
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> dsnyders, are you the nvidia ppa guy?
[02:09] <ZykoticK9> dsnyders, i guess that's dsnyder...
[02:09] <dsnyders> ZykoticK9, no.  Someone else.
[02:10] <niles> ChipCherou: boot while holding shift, select recovery mode, at the recovery menu select netroot, type root password, su usertologinas, startx, right click, create folder, open that folder, navigate to /usr/share/applications, double click Terminal, put screen -S unity
[02:10] <niles> ChipCherou: type unity, hit enter
[02:11] <niles> ChipCherou: close the terminal, if it says its not installed, try gnome-panel
[02:11] <ChipCherou> niles, rebooting now to try...its pretty messed up
[02:11] <dsnyders> Well, pizza's here.  Later folks!
[02:12] <niles> ChipCherou: you have to manually start ssh and apache2 with the commands "service apache2 start" and "/etc/init.d/ssh start" respectively
[02:13] <niles> as root
[02:13] <jrib> niles, ChipCherou: you should be using upstart to start services not init.d in general
[02:13] <pc> how can I use the putty from the terminal ???
[02:14] <niles> jrib: ssh has a problem with the service command, it wont work
[02:14] <jrib> pc: why?
[02:14] <niles> pc: win or linux
[02:14] <pc> linux
[02:14] <jrib> niles: for this specific user?  Because that isn't true in general
[02:14] <ChipCherou> niles, when you say recovery ode...do you mean when selecting kernel?
[02:14] <m1chael> http://dpaste.com/360952/ # i want to use fdisk to use this drive as an ext4 file system.. what does that DOS warning mean?
[02:14] <ChipCherou> *mode
[02:14] <pc> by the way when I want to send to specific person what I do ?
[02:14] <niles> pc: ls /usr/share/applications | grep putty
[02:14] <niles> than start that
[02:15] <niles> jrib: I dont know, it wont work for me or root
[02:16] <ChipCherou> niles, I don't think what you told me will work
[02:16] <niles> it worked for me, i dunno
[02:17] <Descriptioned> how i make my screen stop autolock when im seeing a movie...
[02:17] <Descriptioned> how i make my screen stop autolock when im seeing a movie... it just interupted me from a movie a nice one :@
[02:18] <ChipCherou> niles, normal boot will get me to the login screen but wont give me the fields to login.  recovery mode gets as far as mounting swap successfully then sits.  in both case ctrl+alt+del sucessfully shuts down
[02:18] <niles> ChipCherou: I would say your screwed but keep looking
[02:19] <linsos> Can you talk about free ssh server
[02:19] <Descriptioned> how i make my screen stop autolock when im seeing a movie...
[02:19] <niles> mine is really screwed up, I installed gnome3, or gnome-shell, wich didnt work, than uninstalled it, taking all my .la files with it, and it set update to automaticly remove .la files after update
[02:19] <Cyberfusion> descriptioned did you check screensaver timeout?
[02:20] <Descriptioned> 5min but why when im seeing a move..
[02:20] <Descriptioned> movie..
[02:20] <Madpilot> Descriptioned, which movie player? Totem (the default one) locks out the screensaver...
[02:20] <atul> Hi, I have dual boot machine, 1 with win7 and other is Ubuntu 10.10, I seen Ubuntu Internate is very slow. Any Idea..
[02:20] <Descriptioned> mplayer
[02:21] <Descriptioned> the default.
[02:21] <ChipCherou> Would installing ubuntu over ubuntu fix it?
[02:21] <Alexander> Could somebody help me?
[02:21] <Descriptioned> Madpilot: sorry wrong.. i see from broswer..
[02:21] <niles> ChipCherou: yes
[02:21] <rtdos> when i use the sudo command on another machine i get a "unable to resolve host <hostname>" error. how can i correct this? (i think it is tied to the network issues on the same machine)
[02:21] <Madpilot> Descriptioned, totem is default, not mplayer.
[02:21] <niles> ChipCherou: you would lose all not-backed-up data
[02:21] <Alexander> When I minimize programs to my tray, they dissapear.
[02:22] <Descriptioned> afk removed it :S
[02:22] <niles> Alexander: are you using gnome-panel or unity
[02:22] <Alexander> I think gnome-panel
[02:22] <nejode> ChipCherou, can you get to a recovery mode prompt?
[02:22] <Alexander> I have a stock Ubuntu. :X
[02:22] <niles> Alexander: is there a bar all along the left side with buttons?
[02:22] <fishingkid> After I reboot my system, I have to "restart" /etc/init.d/mdadm in order for the monitoring to work as intended.
[02:23] <ChipCherou> niles, nope... its not freezing...its like it does have the bash files anymore
[02:23] <fishingkid> Any Ideas?
[02:23] <xangua> !panels | Alexander
[02:23] <ChipCherou> niles, *doesn't
[02:23] <Alexander> Wait what do I type?
[02:23] <ChipCherou> nejode, , nope... its not freezing...its like it doesn't have the bash files anymore
[02:23] <niles> ChipCherou: reinstall ubuntu
[02:24] <ChipCherou> niles, I was hoping to run live disk and continue update from wher eit left off
[02:24] <jrib> rtdos: pastebin the contents of /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[02:24] <ChipCherou> niles, is that possible?
[02:24] <niles> ubottu: I thought it was gconftool-2
[02:24] <prozac4312> sup guys
[02:24] <Alexander> Xangua, so what do I type?
[02:24] <niles> ChipCherou: I dont think so
[02:24] <Alexander> I'm a little confused.
[02:25] <Alexander> I'm new to Ubuntu.
[02:25] <Cyberfusion> ubottu what is the meaning of life the universe and everything?
[02:25] <nejode> ChipCherou, you can chroot into your filesystem fron the live CD
[02:25] <prozac4312> i have a 2 pin s/pdif cable running from my gtx260 to the internal s/pdif header on my motherboard...audio works fine in windows, but i can't make it work in ubuntu 10.10...any ideas? i posted on the ubuntu forums but got no responses
[02:25] <Alexander> Hey Niles, can you help me?
[02:26] <ChipCherou> nejode, do you know the apt-get command to continue an upgrade?
[02:26] <niles> with what exactly
[02:26] <prozac4312> oh...to clarify i'm using the internal s/pdif because i use hdmi out from my video card to my monitor
[02:26] <niles> oh
[02:26] <niles> oops
[02:26] <nejode> ChipCherou, "apt-get -f install"
[02:26] <erik71usaaa> hi all
[02:26] <prozac4312> no one has any ideas?
[02:26] <ChipCherou> nejode, does this sound about correct? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-422523.html
[02:26] <Alexander> Does anybody know how to fix the panel? When I minimize something, the program dissapears.
[02:26] <niles> in a terminal type "gnome-panel --replace" and paste what it says
[02:26] <imcd> hi every1
[02:27] <Cyberfusion> prozac4312 did you look on nvidia's website for drivers?
[02:27] <rtdos> ok jrib. brb. (it's on another machine)
[02:27] <niles> Alexander: ^^
[02:27] <erik71usaaa> me im still running 9.04
[02:27] <prozac4312> i've installed the driver yes...but it's only for the video card there's nothing specific for audio
[02:27] <Madpilot> Alexander, did you remove your Window List from the panel by mistake?
[02:28] <Madpilot> Alexander, try Alt+Tab - does that switch between programs?
[02:28] <erik71usaaa> one day ill upgrade
[02:28] <Sargun_Screen> H
[02:28] <imcd> can we ask any questions here plz ?
[02:29] <Cyberfusion> prozac4312 what i mean is that its probably proprietary, the spdif may not be but the hdmi out is
[02:29] <prozac4312> so if i have the driver installed and it's still not working then I'm SOL?
[02:29] <smad> hi
[02:29] <erik71usaaa> everyone says
[02:30] <smad> Jest ktos z Polski?
[02:30] <niles> hi smad
[02:30] <erik71usaaa> 10.10 is more secure than 9.04
[02:30] <rww> !pl | smad
[02:30] <Alexander_> Niles
[02:30] <smad> sorry
[02:30] <Alexander_> Nothing.
[02:30] <Alexander_> :(
[02:30] <dx_> hi
[02:30] <rtdos> jrib: i can't really use pastbin to paste the contents of the files as i have not internet access on the affected machine: hostname is "UB810" and the first to lines of hosts is "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost" & "<IP_ADDRESS> UB810" the remaining lines in hosts are the default for ipv6.
[02:30] <smad> I dont can speak polish hir ?
[02:30] <Cyberfusion> prozac4312 no not necessarily, im just saying that you probably need two parts one to get spdif out and another to get hdcp
[02:30] <nejode> ChipCherou, that's about it... chroot into your filesystem, mount /dev and continue the upgrade
[02:30] <Alexander_> Can somebody help me?
[02:31] <rww> smad: no. English in #ubuntu, Polish in #ubuntu-pl.
[02:31] <niles> Alexander_: nothing spits out into the terminal?
[02:31] <Alexander_> When I minimize things, they dissapear.
[02:31] <erik71usaaa> i wonder if thats only a opinion
[02:31] <Alexander_> Nope.
[02:31] <rtdos> jrib: my modem / router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:31] <jrib> rtdos: and « hostname » returns UB810?
[02:31] <rtdos> yes jrib
[02:31] <prozac4312> so if i have the driver installed already what would you suggest?
[02:31] <niles> hi root
[02:31] <ChipCherou> nejode, having problems finding my old disk...you bychance know of a smaller one?
[02:31] <dtcrshr> is there any other app as alternative to recordmydesktop? i got a bunch of errors, that are already in the bug reports for years
[02:31] <rww> !screencast
[02:31] <smad> rww thx ;)
[02:31] <erik71usaaa> nothing but video caqrd issues on ubuntu 10,10
[02:31] <rtdos> jrib, ifconfig says i am connected to the network (even gives me an ip address) but i cannot use my browser or browse the network.
[02:32] <nejode> ChipCherou, smaller one???
[02:32] <imcd> hi every1 - plz am i allowed to ask any question here ?
[02:32] <jrib> rtdos: what does it actually say instead of "<hostname>" in what you pasted?
[02:32] <niles> dtcrshr: or xeyes
[02:32] <ChipCherou> nejode, smaller dvd to download
[02:32] <jrib> rtdos: wait, isn't this the sudo error question?
[02:32] <fishingkid> After I reboot my system, I have to "restart" /etc/init.d/mdadm in order for the monitoring to work as intended. Any Ideas?
[02:33] <nejode> ChipCherou, if you can work command line, there's a mini-iso of about 12 mb
[02:33] <Guest42536> good day all
[02:34] <dtcrshr> ill try that. bad thing is that i need jack to do my video tutorial
[02:34] <dtcrshr> will give a try on those
[02:34] <smad> In polish kanal room is empty :/ and i have problem :/
[02:34] <pdg1> I'm trying to find some more information on creating a persistent boot with an SD card
[02:34] <rtdos> yes, jrib, but i'm wondering if it's correlated with my not being able to get on the internet or browse my network? wonder if its my dns settings? is there a way to reset my dns settings or ?
[02:34] <ChipCherou> nejode, it would be perfect if it has the commands I need (chroot ifconfig, etc...)
[02:34] <paradise67> Hello, is there something as a "NIC array" to allow more network cards in my server? I wan Ubuntu to act as a bridge/switch
[02:34] <Cyberfusion> prozac4312 i know its not a solution but can you use spdif by itself?
[02:34] <erik71usaaa> has the ubuntu resolved splash boot screen problem when the monitor goes black
[02:35] <ChipCherou> nejode, I take back ifconfig, I don't think I need it (it crashed during the installation part)
[02:35] <Cyberfusion> most tv/monitors have a "digital input" orange rca jack for it
[02:35] <fishingkid> pdg1: google linuxliveusbcreator
[02:35] <erik71usaaa> any help appreciated
[02:35] <jrib> rtdos: well can you ping an ip in the outside world?
[02:35] <dtcrshr> niles, cant see the xeyes relation with screencap
[02:35] <rtdos> jrib: typing hostname also returns "UB810"
[02:35] <rtdos> brb, i'll check now jrib\
[02:35] <smad> i have problem and i dont know this is problem with drivers or what, i go to YouTube and pley klip , when i teak to fuul screen then this screen is stop
[02:36] <nejode> ChipCherou, it's fairly easy, it has a text installer and because you download all the packages, your system will be updated
[02:36] <Alexander> Niles
[02:36] <Alexander> Bothing.
[02:36] <bluefox83> how do i locate an unmounted sdcard in terminal? i have to dd something to it and once you unmount it it's kinda hard to find >.>
[02:36] <niles> dtcrshr: oh, I thought it was a screen recorder for the x window system
[02:36] <Alexander> Nothing**
[02:36] <pdg1> fishingkid: would that work well with an SD card? i've heard that if i use an sd card ( like i am now) it might die a lot quicker
[02:36] <Alexander> Anything I can do to restore defaults?
[02:36] <erik71usaaa> can anyone help
[02:36] <ChipCherou> nejode, if I remember right, thats the network installer...trying to find it now
[02:36] <smad> nobady help me :/
[02:37] <dtcrshr> niles, xeyes is the eyeballs that follows the mouse cursor arround the screen
[02:37] <niles> Alexander: oh dear
[02:37] <fishingkid> pdg1: Flash Memory wears down over time with writes. I have a 4GB microsd card running Linux on my netbook.
[02:37] <niles> dtcrshr: oh, sorry
[02:37] <dtcrshr> xvidcap works, but i cant set the audio inputs
[02:37] <rtdos> jrib: i get an operation not permitted error when i try and ping anything in the outside world.
[02:37] <smad> i need 1 person who help me with this and with network
[02:37] <paradise67> smad: sounds like a flash player thing to me
[02:37] <jrib> rtdos: what does it say exactly?  What did you run exactly?
[02:37] <pdg1> fishingkid: well i don't really want to write to it... i just want to read the os and write/ swap on a partition on my hdd
[02:37] <Alexander>  Anything I can do to restore defaults?
[02:38] <reya276> Hey how can I remove KDE files which I don't need
[02:38] <reya276> without breaking my system, I'm on Ubuntu 10.10 right now
[02:38] <reya276> is it sudo apt-get remove --purge kde*?
[02:38] <nejode> Alexander, the bot gave you the comman to fix it
[02:38] <jrib> Alexander: restore *what* to defaults?
[02:38] <Guest42536> hey
[02:39] <Alexander> the panal
[02:39] <fishingkid> pdg1: Why not just install Linux on the hdd and partition it?
[02:39] <Alexander> Nejode, which command?
[02:39] <nejode> ChipCherou, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:39] <rtdos> ping <google's IP> i get this message: ping: sendmsg: operation not permitted
[02:39] <smad> paradise67 thx i reinstal this , i have problem with network becouse i have laptop and i have wirlles and i whant internet too in stacjonary computer but i whant from laptop to computer plugin cable
[02:39] <ChipCherou> nejode, thanx, alreayd burning it to cd
[02:39] <rtdos> rjib: i even tried pre-pending it with sudo
[02:39] <dx_> o.o
[02:39] <sparkowitz> hey, does anyone have any idea why udev would remove a synaptic touchpad?
[02:39] <dx_> ????
[02:39] <dx_> ??????
[02:40] <smad> i have ubuntu 10,10
[02:40] <JoseeAntonioR> hi!
[02:40] <pdg1> fishingkid: good question. i have an asus netbook that has this silly/stupid expressgate thing. i heard it has to use the windows partition
[02:40] <dx_> hi
[02:40] <genewitch> Update manager crashes if my laptop is running on battery power. And by crashes i think i mean it hangs.
[02:40] <JoseeAntonioR> is there someone who uses empathy?
[02:40] <genewitch> forever.
[02:40] <niles> Alexander: reset gnome-panel with gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel; killall gnome-panel
[02:40] <pdg1> fishingkid: I'm afraid if i install grub it will forever ruin the expressgate instant on thing
[02:40] <paradise67> smad: as far as I understand you want to share Internet connection? could you explain more?
[02:41] <Alexander>  reset gnome-panel with gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel; killall gnome-panel
[02:41] <Alexander> ?
[02:41] <nejode> Alexander: To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[02:41] <Alexander> Copy paste that?
[02:41] <Alexander>  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[02:41] <Alexander> ^^this?
[02:41] <niles> for the 3rd time, yes
[02:41] <Alexander> Sorry.
[02:41] <Alexander> Thanks!!! :DDD
[02:42] <niles> is it working, you should need to reboot
[02:42] <niles> or run gnome-panel --replace &
[02:42] <fishingkid> pdg1: So you do use the features of express gate?
[02:42] <smad> paradise67 ok , i whant share me internet with secend computer but i must confiugure  ubuntu in laptop too share internet to secend computer , when i connect in cable
[02:42] <JoseeAntonioR> can anyone help me with empathy?
[02:42] <Alexander> Actually niles, it works fine.
[02:42] <niles> ok
[02:43] <Alexander> Thanks! :D
[02:43] <pdg1> fishingkid: no... but i'm pretty sure it's compressed as a squashfs file somewhere in windows and i want to find out if i could replace it with android for x86
[02:43] <rww> niles: gnome-panel has no --replace switch. You may be thinking of metacity or compiz or something.
[02:43] <niles> oh, sorry
[02:43] <niles> probally unity
[02:43] <pdg1> fishingkid: goofy... i know
[02:44] <dtcrshr> what annoys me is that recordmydesktop command line entryies just dont work at all, but is the perfect software to do what i need, jack inputs, size selections.. :( very sad
[02:44] <fishingkid> pdg1: yes indeed well that's over my head.
[02:44] <smad> paradise67 sorry for speaking English but it's better than writing
[02:44] <dtcrshr> xvidcap wont work with jack
[02:44] <bots> anyone know what could be causing this error when I try running certain apps:
[02:44] <bots> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h:
[02:44] <dtcrshr> pyvnc2swf also
[02:44] <paradise67> smad: well, I'm not a network expert but you want to configure IP forwarding to allow your linux act as a router, something in relation with sysctl.conf if I remember
[02:45] <pdg1> fishingkid: so what did u say i should google?
[02:45] <superlinkx> I want to run ubuntu studio next to my current ubuntu install. Problem is, I don't want it to replace my current grub setup. What would be the best way to install any linux next to my current installation without installing their own boot manager?
[02:45] <fishingkid> pdg1: google "linuxliveusb creator" it creates a bootable OS with persistence
[02:45] <fishingkid> After I reboot my system, I have to "restart" /etc/init.d/mdadm in order for the monitoring to work as intended. Any Ideas?
[02:46] <jantocarzar> q
[02:46] <niles> q?
[02:46] <pdg1> fishingkid: thanks
[02:46] <smad> in laptop i have ubuntu 10.10 in secend computer i have windows 7 I'm not expert in configure in ubuntu and i have whit this big problem and i search help hir
[02:47] <JoseeAntonioR> empathy isn't working fine, my contact list is empty.
[02:47] <babalu> could someone plz tell me why I get this error trying to execute wow via wine ??plz The file '/media/F2ECAEE2ECAEA079/Program Files/World of Warcraft/Launcher.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[02:47] <smad> babalu i have this problem too
[02:47] <babalu> did you solve it?
[02:47] <Philip_> Right click permissions set them to read and write.
[02:48] <smad> but i reinstall wine and i dont have this
[02:48] <fishingkid> babalu: you must set the file as executable
[02:48] <niles> JoseeAntonioR: contact the maintainers of the ldap server
[02:48] <babalu> I did
[02:48] <Philip_> RIght click prefrences or properties whatever.
[02:48] <babalu> I set it as executable but no luck
[02:48] <niles> JoseeAntonioR: if applicable
[02:48] <JoseeAntonioR> niles: ldap server? can you explain me, please?
[02:48] <niles> than dont
[02:48] <paradise67> smad: maybe you should try this http://www.howtoforge.com/internet-connection-sharing-masquerading-on-linux
[02:49] <niles> babalu: chmod +x /media/F2ECAEE2ECAEA079/Program Files/World of Warcraft/Launcher.exe
[02:49] <niles> from terminal
[02:49] <smad> paradise67 this is hard :|
[02:49] <Alexander> Oh my God.
[02:49] <superlinkx> Anyone have suggestions for the best way to multiboot multiple ubuntu installations? I don't want to have the installations constantly changing the MBR.
[02:49] <Alexander> I love Ubuntu.
[02:49] <Alexander> It is so cool. <33
[02:50] <babalu> guys how do I unistall wine?
[02:50] <babalu> lol
[02:51] <_skpl> Alexander: i agree.
[02:51] <paradise67> smad: well, there's ubuntu GUI method https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[02:51] <niles> babalu: apt-get remove wine?
[02:51] <imcd> Hi - is there anywhere i can download Gnome 2.30.2 binaries plz ?
[02:51] <babalu> ok ty let me see if that workds
[02:51] <babalu> works
[02:51] <smad> paradise67 do You have in polish this hahaha :D
[02:51] <fishingkid> smad: google translate :D
[02:52] <niles> smad: get a new translator
[02:52] <smad> haha :d
[02:52] <niles> smad:  its :p
[02:52] <derp> is this ubantu channel
[02:52] <smad> ok i back to 5 min i go to google translator :D to translate this page :P
[02:52] <Cpt_CornCobs> DCC SEND "LOL.EXE" 0 0 0
[02:53] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[02:53] <babalu> which version of wine is the best>?
[02:53] <niles> babalu: the most recent stable version
[02:53] <babalu> nice ty
[02:53] <imcd> Hi - is there anywhere i can download Gnome 2.30.2 binaries plz ?
[02:53] <niles> it can be installed with the command sudo apt-get install wine
[02:53] <paradise67> smad: not really
[02:54] <paradise67> !pl | smad
[02:54] <fishingkid> After I reboot my system, I have to "restart" /etc/init.d/mdadm in order for the monitoring to work as intended. Any Ideas?
[02:54] <niles> fishingkid: nope
[02:55] <bluefox83> my sscard suddenly isn't being detected...can someone help with that?
[02:55] <niles> sorry babalu, forgot to mention it resets the network drivers
[02:55] <bluefox83> !sdcards
[02:56] <Ice_> ???DCC SEND "ff???f?𝑹𝑰𝑷𝑳𝑶𝑳𝑺𝑼𝑷𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺" 0 0 0
[02:56] <smad> im back
[02:57] <smad> hallo
[02:57] <nichos> hi all, im having problems with boxee - when I test "Default" (as defind in my asound)  aplay is fine, but when i set boxee to use "default" i get nothing
[02:57] <niles> hi smad, time to get yet a new translator
[02:57] <imcd> Hi - is there anywhere i can download Gnome 2.30.2 binaries plz ?
[02:57] <smad> niles http://translate.google.pl/#
[02:58] <niles> przejdź do # ubuntu-pl
[02:59] <niles> man polish is a wierd language
[02:59] <niles> babalu: good, your back
[02:59] <niles> forgot to mention it resets the network drivers
[02:59] <Swit> on a magic carpet ride
[02:59] <JoseeAntonioR> niles: How do I contact the maintainers of the ldap server?
[02:59] <smad> niles the Polish kanbale no people
[02:59] <niles> JoseeAntonioR: do you have an ldap server you use?
[03:00] <niles> if not, something else removed all your contacts
[03:00] <niles> possibly you
[03:00] <JoseeAntonioR> niles: As far as I know, no. I use Empathy for MSN Messenger.
[03:00] <niles> dont know
[03:00] <niles> did it delete your msn contacts?
[03:02] <smad> niles you know how to share internet with your laptop to another computer via cable? Ubuntu on the laptop is 10.10 and the second computer is Windows 7
[03:02] <niles> smad: no, but google is your friend
[03:02] <Guigaoff> hi
[03:02] <niles> smad: in your case, google.pl
[03:02] <smad> niles google dont like me ;( :D :D
[03:02] <Guigaoff> my name
[03:03] <NoobUntu> evening Ubuntuers
[03:03] <imcd> Hi - is there anywhere i can download Gnome 2.30.2 binaries plz ?
[03:03] <gpc> imcd: check packages.ubuntu.com
[03:04] <imcd> thank u so much - i will
[03:04] <niles> http://www.google.pl/#hl=pl&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=649&q=laptopy+internet+linux+szt.+akcji&btnG=Szukaj+w+Google&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=laptopy+internet+linux+szt.+akcji&fp=b1b18d1bdc8ed009
[03:04] <smad> I looked on google but not found anything that helped me to share the internet on the second computer as I have ubuntu on ubuntu 10.10 10.04 I had and I did but that does not work new ununtu
[03:04] <nichos> hi all, im having problems with boxee - when I test "Default" (as defind in my asound)  aplay is fine, but when i set boxee to use "default" i get nothing
[03:05] <paradise67> smad: just try, *it says 9.10 and up*
[03:05] <niles> smad: no idea
[03:05] <mbvpixies78> my internet is a little slow--   it always says "looking up" before it finds and connects to any web site
[03:05] <mbvpixies78> any ideas?
[03:06] <kholis1> hi. i have problem after installing solaris 11 express. Solaris grub fails to detect ubuntu partition, while it can detect windows partition. similar problem with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1663749. need help
[03:06] <niles> yea, clear your dns cache
[03:06] <smad> I tried different ways but I could not to share the internet. probably come back on ubuntu 10.04 or on Windows
[03:06] <mbvpixies78> niles:  ty
[03:06] <niles> gotta go
[03:07] <Scottt> Hey
[03:08] <Scottt> i have a problem with installing ubuntu 10.1064bit
[03:08] <smad> no, and nobody would help me: (
[03:08] <smad> Scottt dont install ubuntu 10.10 instal 10.04 is better
[03:08] <Scottt> Okay
[03:08] <Scottt> that one atleast works
[03:08] <Scottt> im upset
[03:09] <Scottt> but thanks neways
[03:09] <imcd> gpc : thank you v much :)
[03:10] <Jerph> I've installed redmine through apt on Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS. It's version 0.9.3 i believe. What would be the best way to upgrade to the 1.1? If i try to upgrade in place from a tarball, would apt get confused?
[03:10] <snypzz> still trying to get displaylink working..
[03:11] <snypzz> on ubuntu 10.10
[03:13] <snypzz> had to go back to windows7 running ubuntu 10.10 in virtualbox because I could not get diplaylink working...
[03:13] <KM0201> smad: thats ridiculous.
[03:14] <snypzz> I want my UBUNTU 10.10
[03:14] <smad> what?
[03:14] <KM0201> about 10.04 being better than 10.10...
[03:15] <smad> for me is better 10.04
[03:15] <KM0201> smad: for you... so why would you tell soemone to remove 10.10 and install 10.04?
[03:15] <Guest15683> I am trying to block a connection using Firestarter.  I can see the active connection, and even after i type the information into the "outbound traffic policy" the service is still connected.
[03:17] <neothecat> hello.  i just installed 10.10 desktop w/ gnome.   how come whenever the ctrl key comes up after being pressed, there is an animated target that comes under the cursor?
[03:17] <smad> I told him my opinion that Ubuntu is better 10.04. Could you speak up and express his own opinion and to help him
[03:17] <noisewaterphd_1> Guest15683: I don't know what firestarter is, but I'm assuming you need to restart the service. If it's a front end to iptables then restart iptables
[03:17] <Vixie> neothecat: you have locate cursor turned on
[03:17] <Vixie> *locate pointer
[03:17] <Vixie> you can turn it off in mouse preferences
[03:18] <neothecat> Vixie: thanks, it was drving me insane :)
[03:18] <KM0201> smad: i'm helping someone else at the moment....
[03:18] <noisewaterphd_1> what is the 10.10 issu
[03:18] <smad> ok this helps someone else.
[03:19] <markoso> do they make google earth for ubuntu?
[03:19] <noisewaterphd_1> markoso: yes
[03:19] <markoso> saawwweeet
[03:21] <KM0201> markoso: works quite well actually
[03:21] <noisewaterphd_1> markoso: i think the medibuntu repos even have an apt package
[03:21] <KM0201> noisewaterphd_1: but its an old old version... your'e better off downloading the google earth 6 .deb package from the google earth homepage
[03:21] <markoso> ty km
[03:23] <aweh0pe> you guys use ircii?  i do setenv IRCSERVER irc.freenode.org in .profile and it does not work
[03:24] <itaylor57> aweh0pe: setenv is for csh or tcsh
[03:24] <aweh0pe> k
[03:24] <noisewaterphd_1> aweh0pe: not an answer to your question, sorry, but I really like Konversation on Ubuntu. You should check it out. sudo apt-get install konversation
[03:25] <aweh0pe> set is for bash, right?
[03:25] <itaylor57> aweh0pe: try export IRCSERVER=irc.freenode.org
[03:25] <aweh0pe> oh okay
[03:25] <noisewaterphd_1> bash uses export
[03:26] <noisewaterphd_1> you can set it permanantly in /etc/bashrc
[03:29] <seekwill> Hi. I got a little problem. My 10.04 LT sort of boots. I can ping it, but can't ssh to it. There is literally only a blinking cursor at what should be the login prompt. Any ideas?
[03:30] <fridgerator> Hello, I have a question reguarding Firestarter and blocking a connection that i can see in my Active Connections
[03:31] <himanshu> i have java 6. i want to install java 5 in a temp folder?
[03:31] <himanshu> how can i get java5 as a debian package
[03:32] <Balmung> anyone here good with partitions? I have royally screwed my computer up
[03:33] <jon8> how can i give full permissions to /var/www to the account 'ken'
[03:33] <noisewaterphd_1> fridgerator: I replied to you when you were known as Guest
[03:33] <Balmung> I am like really desperate... >.<
[03:33] <subcool> Hey can someone help me I am running off of the live usb. I just installed windows 7 and to fix my loader
[03:34] <noisewaterphd_1> jon8: chown
[03:34] <the_pharoah> hey is KM0201
[03:34] <the_pharoah> here
[03:34] <rob_bailey191> looking for help installing raid 1 in Ubuntu anyone know how to do it?
[03:34] <the_pharoah> KM0201: u here?
[03:34] <KM0201> the_pharoah: yeah... hang on just a minute, working on a complex prob
[03:34] <the_pharoah> alright
[03:34] <iflema> spill it Balmung... details...
[03:34] <iflema> !grub2 | subcool
[03:34] <fridgerator> noisewaterphd_1 sorry about that, i can see the connected IP and port in my active connections, but when i apply the policy the connection stays active
[03:34] <jon8> noisewaterphd_1 can you give me a working example? on how to give 'ken' full permissions to /var/www/
[03:34] <jon8> and every file inside of it
[03:35] <noisewaterphd_1> jon8: use google or man
[03:35] <noisewaterphd_1> chown is the command you want
[03:35] <noisewaterphd_1> man chown
[03:35] <noisewaterphd_1> or google chown
[03:36] <noisewaterphd_1> both will show you usage and all of the options
[03:36] <Balmung> iflema , well when trying to dual boot with windows 7 and ubuntu I some how fugered up my windows 7 so it wont even start now. So I did  a few things and now I have ubuntu running on a dual boot but I tried to nuke windows 7 or even the whole computer and I cant even reformat the computer to default
[03:37] <itaylor57> !permissions
[03:37] <leapy0yo> hi
[03:37] <leapy0yo> is ircii the most used program that is basic?
[03:37] <leapy0yo> for console
[03:37] <noisewaterphd_1> Balmung: hopefully it's jut a bootloader issue. Google for Rescatux. It creates a bootable CD with a wizard that walks you through fixing your bootloader
[03:37] <Unguided> !partition
[03:37] <Balmung> iflema every time i try to do a fresh install off a windows 7 installer cd it runs fine but can not load ANY of my drivers thus not letting me delete or touch any of the partitions
[03:37] <leapy0yo> and is emacs the most used for console still?
[03:37] <daniel32708> Hello. I have a Toshiba 3D ready laptop, with a Geforce 350M.  I already installed and I am running it, the latest nvidia driver 270.18, which is a beta. Anyways, Do you guys know if it is possible to enable 3d here? to use with the nvidia 3d vision glasses ?    THx!!!!
[03:38] <syddraf> Is there a way to prevent NetworkManager from overwriting the data stored in /etc/resolv.conf? I use a custom DNS server, and the NetworkManager continually resets it to my local network DNS.
[03:38] <iflema> Balmung try do nuking from livecd environment
[03:38] <Detection> @Balmung - go into windows 7 > disk management > right click the partitions you want to recover > delete > create new > format
[03:39] <xangua> syddraf: you can set your dns using ntwork manager applet
[03:39] <Balmung> iflema & Detection it doesnt reconize ANY partitions THERE ARE NONE LISTED at all :/ which makes me worry
[03:39] <Balmung> if they were there I could easily do this.
[03:39] <Detection> not in disk management ? Im not talking about just in the My Computer bit
[03:40] <daniel32708> Anyone has had success at making Nvidia 3D vision work in Ubuntu?
[03:40] <leapy0yo> i installed ubuntu netbook remix and it has an option to run ubuntu desktop thgat i can change via pulldown menu at the bottom. I like ubunutu desktop because it has pulldown tabs like administrator
[03:40] <syddraf> xangua: Where might I find this tool?
[03:40] <SSShvb> Hello  how to check    how many threads has a process
[03:41] <xangua> syddraf: top right in gnome
[03:41] <noisewaterphd_1> SSShvb: ps
[03:41] <Balmung> I am talking about in anything lol,  Step one: put in windows 7 installer cd, step two: boot cd, step three: install fresh copy of windows ( advanced) step four: can not load drivers.  (no options given beside trying to browse for nothing)
[03:42] <syddraf> xangua: I think I found something in the System > Preferences menu. Thanks.
[03:42] <Balmung> @detection
[03:42] <Snakkah> Hi. I asked this question in the Xubuntu room but never received na answer so I figured I'd try here. Where are the wallpapers for Xubuntu located?
[03:42] <santhosh> hi can some one pls tell me the ubuntu command to search for all log files *.log
[03:42] <Detection> you need the SATA Controller drivers for the mothERBOA
[03:42] <Detection> motherboard*
[03:42] <Balmung> where do i obtain that?
[03:42] <syddraf> I'm also looking for a program to emulate the Mac OS Dashboard behavior. Screenlets isn't quite what I'm looking for. Are there any others that anyone can recommend?
[03:42] <santhosh> i need to search the entire system for all files called *.log
[03:42] <Detection> manufacurers site
[03:43] <Niles|iPod> Usually /usr/share/wallpapers or something in /usr/share
[03:43] <SSShvb> noisewaterphd_1: thanks
[03:43] <xangua> Snakkah: /usr/share/backgrounds
[03:43] <Balmung> um then just install it through ubuntu? because thats about the only os i can boot
[03:43] <iflema> Balmung: booted with livecd, can you wipe drive/see partitions?
[03:43] <Niles|iPod> Find / *.log|grep .log
[03:43] <Balmung> iflema no the partition listing is blank....
[03:44] <Detection> if it is an ASUS board, goto asus support driver site, get the sata controller driver, stick it extracted onto a fat32 flashdrive, start windows 7 setup, when it says browse, point it to the flash drive
[03:44] <iflema> Balmung: =/
[03:44] <Balmung> its a Hp compaq presario
[03:44] <santhosh> thank you
[03:44] <Detection> ok well goto HP site
[03:44] <fridgerator> I have a question reguarding Firestarter and blocking a connection that i can see in my Active Connections
[03:45] <Niles|iPod> santhosh: Find / *.log|grep .log
[03:45] <daniel32708> Hello. I have a Toshiba 3D ready laptop, with a Geforce 350M.  I already installed and I am running it, the latest nvidia driver 270.18, which is a beta. I cant find any google help.... Do you guys know if it is possible to enable 3d here? to use with the nvidia 3d vision glasses ?    THx!!!!
[03:45] <Balmung> ok will do ill look for it thanks detection
[03:45] <santhosh> thank you niles
[03:45] <Detection> ok good luck
[03:45] <Niles|iPod> santhosh: Oh and run that as root
[03:45] <JRC> has anyone used backtrack
[03:46] <rww> JRC: #backtrack-linux have, presumably
[03:46] <santhosh> sure niles
[03:46] <KM0201> rww: lol, win
[03:46] <syddraf> rww: well done
[03:47]  * KM0201 thinks a public service announcement should be put out by the channel, to avoid Wubi
[03:47] <SSShvb> noisewaterphd_1: could you please write an example how to do  it ?
[03:47] <Niles|iPod> Why avoid wubi?
[03:48] <Unguided> Hello all. Can someone please tell me what the recommended partition size for root and swap partition is for a new install please?
[03:48] <subcool> Iflema I cant mount the file system
[03:48] <KM0201> Niles|iPod: lol, 3rd system in 2 days i've dealt w/ that was messed up because of it.
[03:49] <syddraf> Unguided: I usually do 20gigs for linux just to give it plenty of breathing room. and as far as I know, swap should be equal to the size of your RAM, but I'm not 100% sure on that one.
[03:49] <KM0201> syddraf: 1.5-2x
[03:50] <Balmung> did Detection leave?
[03:50] <syddraf> KM0201: Good to know, thanks for the info.
[03:50] <Unguided> Syddraf and Km0201: thank you for the information.
[03:51] <Balmung> ifelma did you understand what detection was talking about earlier ?
[03:51] <iflema> subcool  I have never had to install winblows and then recover linux...
[03:51] <subcool> thanks for the link I'll be back later
[03:52] <daniel32708> Swap is reccomended to be twice the RAM,  but if thats not possible make it at least the same as RAM
[03:52] <neothecat> i manually download netbeans 6.9.1.  but when i switch between openjdk and sun jdk, netbeans still uses the same jdk i had when i installed it.  does anyone know how to use the systems default jdk with netbeans?
[03:52] <EnigmaticCoder> cd --help shows cd [-L|-P] what do the options do?
[03:54] <Niles|iPod> Man cd
[03:54] <EnigmaticCoder> Doesn
[03:54] <EnigmaticCoder> Doesn't have a manual
[03:55] <Niles|iPod> Don't know
[03:55] <Niles|iPod> Try em'
[03:55] <iflema> !tab | Balmung
[03:55] <syddraf> Tried em
[03:55] <syddraf> No visible difference....
[03:55] <EnigmaticCoder> em'?
[03:55] <iflema> Balmung sort of... winblows talk =)
[03:55] <syddraf> -L and -P
[03:55] <Niles|iPod> Them
[03:55] <rww> EnigmaticCoder: try 'help cd'
[03:56] <Balmung> iflema well I am just having trouble actually finding that file he said, I have a usb and such.
[03:56] <EnigmaticCoder> Ah, that worked
[03:56] <rww> EnigmaticCoder: cd is a builtin shell command, so it uses bash's internal help system instead of manpages.
[03:56] <SSShvb> how to check    how many threads has a process ?
[03:56] <EnigmaticCoder> Always learning new things in linux :)
[03:56] <iflema> Balmung /join ##windows maybe...
[03:58] <linoge> hi, what's the name of this so usefull program that installs drivers for you? the one that is shipped with ubuntu
[03:59] <rww> linoge: jockey
[03:59] <linoge> thanks
[03:59] <smallfoot-> system->admin->additional drivers
[03:59] <bluefox83> ok, i need some help with dd, it keeps making my card go invisible and NOT mount when i put it in...it might as well be broken...except that some devices i have can see it but not boot off the .img i dd'd to it
[03:59] <smallfoot-> jockey-gtk
[03:59] <linoge> yep
[04:00] <linoge> i was wondering, as i don't use gnome nor kde but dwm, and really, it saves time
[04:00] <EnigmaticCoder> Should I name my bash script: script.bash or script.sh?
[04:00] <RubyTN> hey guys I was just using my wireless internet, and then it just kicked me off and when I click on the wireless icon in  the toolbar the enable wireless text is greyed out, how can I enable it again or get it working?
[04:01] <SegankuZ> a .sh suffix is not terribly unusual even if it's a bash script
[04:01] <KM0201> RubyTN: whats your wireless device?
[04:01] <smallfoot-> EnigmaticCoder, script.sh
[04:01] <ascheel> Where does apt-get store the files it downloads prior to dpkg?
[04:01] <EnigmaticCoder> smallfoot-: ty
[04:01] <hblount> hi. anyone here use xfburn? i am trying to blank a cdrw but it says "cannot access drive (it might be in use)"
[04:02] <smallfoot-> EnigmaticCoder, but if its a bash script, then it should have a bash shebang at the top, the first line
[04:02] <smallfoot-> like #!/bin/bash
[04:02] <smallfoot-> but if its a shell script that dont use bashisms then it  should be #!/bin/sh
[04:03] <RubyTN> KM0201:  I have an atheros AR9285
[04:03] <KM0201> RubyTN: did you just upgrae your kernel?
[04:04] <RubyTN> KM0201:  maybe, I  did an upgrade earlier today!
[04:04] <RubyTN> how would that affect things and how can I repair it?
[04:04] <RubyTN> or rather an update
[04:04] <KM0201> RubyTN: try looking at this.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1650507
[04:05] <linoge> does jockey-text displays some kind of progress bar while downloading or it just stays blank?
[04:08] <SSShvb> how to check    how many threads has a process ?
[04:09] <linoge> if i install nvidia-current from aptitude it's the same as installing it from jockey right?
[04:09] <RubyTN> KM0201:  thanks, that fixed it
[04:10] <KM0201> RubyTN: great....
[04:10] <lyman18> test
[04:10] <daniel32708> Hello. I have a Toshiba 3D ready laptop, with a Geforce 350M.  I already installed and I am running it, the latest nvidia driver 270.18, which is a beta. Anyways, Do you guys know if it is possible to enable 3d here? to use with the nvidia 3d vision glasses ?    THx!!!!
[04:10] <KM0201> RubyTN: if i had to guess, it "disabled" during an update, and you simply had to enable it again... now why that happened, will remain the mystery wrapped in a riddle
[04:10] <michael_> hey all.  i installed ubuntu on this dell laptop, and grub doesn't 'see' the windows install.  i've never had this happen before.  update-grub2 didn't find it either - what can i do?
[04:11] <leapy0yo> what is a good email program for console?
[04:11] <leapy0yo> or command line
[04:11] <linoge> leapy0yo: mutt
[04:12] <linoge> :)
[04:12] <rtdos> i have disabled the graphical login so that i'm starting xserver manually, how do i use startx to specify which desktop i want to use: KDE or GNOME?
[04:13] <SegankuZ> mutt > all
[04:14] <radsciguy> exit
[04:17] <michael_> anyone?  i don't understand what to do if GRUB doesn't find windows... it always has found windows.
[04:18] <Unguided> I have an older Gateway laptop. it has a 2.4ghz proc with a 40gb HD and 512mb ram. Can anyone give me a recommendation on how to partition the HD please? I know that the swap partition should be 2x the ram.
[04:18] <daniel32708> michael_: are you sure u didnt delete the win partition?
[04:18] <xangua> Unguided: or you can leave the ubuntu installer to do it
[04:18] <linoge> Unguided: root shall not be larger than 7 GB, home would take the rest
[04:18] <michael_> daniel32708, positive.  i can still mount/see it in ubuntu.
[04:18] <fridgerator> in my FIrestarter events tab, about 11 or 12 times a minute i'm seeing a blocked connection from 3 different ip addresses, is this normal?
[04:19] <Unguided> linoge: thank you.
[04:19] <linoge> :)
[04:19] <daniel32708> michael_:   try grub from a live cd and check if it can see the win partition
[04:19] <Unguided> xangua: thank you also
[04:19] <michael_> daniel32708, fdisk -l confirms there's still 1 NTFS partition.
[04:19] <daniel32708> or unistall and reinstall grub
[04:19] <michael_> daniel32708, update-grub2...?  not the same thing?
[04:20] <fridgerator> here is the pastebin of my events tab: http://pastebin.com/5f65ECY9
[04:20] <daniel32708> michael_: i would remove it compoletely using synaptic, and then reinstall it
[04:20] <smartwool> how do you get  a fortran file from desktop to run in the terminal?
[04:20] <daniel32708> michael_: grub has some weird bugs
[04:20] <NoobUntu> What is the best application to use to run windows native programs?
[04:20] <michael_> daniel32708, i've installed ubuntu tons of times and never had this happen
[04:20] <daniel32708>  NoobUntu: windows xp within a virtual machine,   or wine
[04:20] <leapy0yo> i am installing mutt and it asks about postfix but i use gmail not postfix... postfix is for business right
[04:21] <KM0201> michael_: me either...
[04:21] <KM0201> !grub2 | michael_ i would try reinstalling grub from the live cd(like you lost it after installing windows) and see if it picks up windows
[04:21] <daniel32708> michael_:  yeah thats really weird... what do u want to do btw?
[04:21] <michael_> daniel32708, well this isn't my laptop.  i just want him to be able to get back to windows in addition to booting ubuntu.
[04:22] <leapy0yo> mutt asks for postfix configuration...is there a omre updated console program... maybe one that uses imap instead of postfix?
[04:22] <michael_> i guess i'll boot back from my liveusb key and reinstall grub then...
[04:22] <daniel32708> michael_:  ok, yeah i think you should take ubottu's advice
[04:22] <sacarlson> SSShvb:  is this what your looking for ps uH p <PID_OF_U_PROCESS> | wc -l   ;  example find process number of firefox-bin and use that in this line and I see 13 returned
[04:22] <xio91> how do i configure wpa with the command line? is there no way to do it without editing a file?
[04:23] <SSShvb> sacarlson: thanks a lot
[04:25] <leapy0yo> is there a way to commandline send....?
[04:25] <leapy0yo> does mutt do that?
[04:25] <sagarchalise> hi, is there a way to mount the iso in hardrive to boot as live cd in the same computer
[04:25] <SegankuZ> echo howdy | mailx -s "this is a subject line"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:25] <sagarchalise> my ubuntu takes me to initramfs on boot
[04:27] <sacarlson> sagarchalise: yes you can create a grub2 entry that will mount and boot an iso file example seen here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[04:28] <hunterkasy> does anyone knows what block list is used in transmission?
[04:28] <cr1990> Hello, when someone gets the chance, can somebody please help me with a network/firewall problem that's even left me stumped... :/
[04:28] <smallfoot-> hunterkasy, to block RIAA, MPAA and record industry assholes
[04:29] <unreturned> Hello, peoples, please, where i could take free *.edu mail accaunt?
[04:29] <sta7ic> cr1990: what is the problem
[04:29] <smallfoot-> unreturned, you cant, you only get it if you study at university
[04:29] <unreturned> smallfoot-, thx, it`s really bad(
[04:29] <xio91> unreturned: actually you can get them from some Australian university
[04:30] <jiohdi> I hit some combo of keys and now gnome does not recognize my keyboard, what do I do to fix it?
[04:30] <cr1990> Whenever I either restart or shutdown my machine (Ubuntu Server 10.04), both my ethernet cards are recognized by the system, but I can neither access the internet or ssh into the server
[04:30] <sacarlson> cr1990: only time you need a firewall is if you want different subnets to have access to different things,  if you don't want anything to access it just close the service that is listening on the port
[04:30] <rollman> will ubuntu work with my ipad?
[04:30] <RubyTN> hey guys still having issues with my wireless connection, it is always disablaed and I don't have the ability to enable it.  when I view the NetworkManager.state file, wireless is set to false.  when I change it to true, save and then restart, it reverts to false.  any ideas?
[04:30] <rww> !ot | unreturned
[04:30] <aflyingturtle> hey
[04:30] <Roasted> has anybody noticed ubuntu get slower over time? I find it takes longer for my desktop to show up on my laptop when I log in. once in, its wicked fast though as always. just odd it has gotten slower but ONLY for the login process.
[04:30] <cr1990> I believe I did it by accident (long story).
[04:30] <unreturned> ubotu, ok
[04:30] <aflyingturtle> so i know that the command to start the GUI is startx
[04:30] <aflyingturtle> is there a command to stop the gui?
[04:30] <hunterkasy> smallfoot-_ I figured it was used to block those, but I was wondering what list is used
[04:31] <xio91> unreturned: some Australian edu offers them to non-students free...
[04:31] <cr1990> DHCP is successful, ip route is successful, ipconfig shows eth1 and eth0 working properly
[04:31] <FloatingGoat> what do i add to the repo's to get java om 10.10
[04:31] <rollman> Roasted: i don't have that problem mines seems faster now
[04:31] <sagarchalise> My init just crashed if its the right term to say it ?? I m taken to initramfs at boot is there a way to solve it without live cd ?
[04:31] <unreturned> peoples, who setup InterWrite Board on Ubuntu? My problem with gtco bluetooth pads
[04:31] <xio91> unreturned: you might tell me what you are doing though ... i suspect i know.. private msg me. i have a solution for you.
[04:31] <RubyTN> never mind, figured it out
[04:32] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: I think it can be normaly shutdown by killing gdm
[04:32] <cr1990> when I restart /etc/init.d/networking, I can all of a sudden access the internet
[04:32] <aflyingturtle> sacarlson so look at the activity manager and kill gdm?
[04:32] <cr1990> I truly don't understand what's going on
[04:33] <unreturned> xio91, sorry, i dont know how to to private msg you...))) first connect to irc with irssi
[04:33] <amit> facebook and yahoo doesnot logout and also mail from yahoo didn't sent
[04:33] <amit> ?
[04:33] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: you could try ps -A  and see if gdm is running then try killall gdm  I guess,  I'm not sure what that will do
[04:34] <rollman> hey bottu is there a beginner channel this is moving way to fast now
[04:34] <Chr|s> how do I have Thunderbird show up in the indicator applet instead of Evolution? I have already uninstalled evolution
[04:34] <the_pharoah> yoooo
[04:34] <FloatingGoat> what do i add to the repo's to get java om 10.10
[04:34] <gpc> rollman: #ubuntu-beginners
[04:34] <rollman> thx
[04:34] <xangua> !java | FloatingGoat
[04:35] <Crisco> Java isn't already on there?
[04:35] <Crisco> wow things have changed
[04:35] <xangua> Chr|s: i believe i saw hot to do that on omg!ubuntu! or webupd8 blog
[04:35] <amit> my facebook and yahoo mail account didn't logout? why it happens always
[04:35] <cr1990> @sacarlson: in an attempt to get back the original firewall scripts, I uninstalled and reinstalled iptables and ufw
[04:35] <aflyingturtle> sacarlson: theres gdm-binary and gdm-simple-slav
[04:35] <xangua> amit: no idea what are you trying to say
[04:35] <cr1990> I ran a script which caused the problems to start
[04:36] <Crisco> so why don't the Ubuntu repos have Java 1.6.0_22?
[04:37] <aflyingturtle> they shud
[04:37] <aflyingturtle> well
[04:37] <aflyingturtle> at least i think they do
[04:37]  * cr1990 prob has no choice but to reinstall due to a script that messed up his settings in a way he can't figure out :/
[04:37]  * KM0201 recommends cr1990 not use that script again after reinstalling
[04:37] <Crisco> aflyingturtle: I've tried everything but installing with an RPM or from source
[04:38] <arrrghhh> hey all.  i have that dell laptop that GRUB isn't picking up on win7
[04:38] <arrrghhh> i just reinstalled grub
[04:38] <Crisco> hmm
[04:38] <cr1990> well yea, but I wish I knew what was wrong at least
[04:38] <FloatingGoat> xangua: thanks a bunch home dawg, later
[04:38] <arrrghhh> rebooted, did the update-grub... and still no windows in the boot menu.
[04:38] <Crisco> what did you install first?
[04:38] <Crisco> oh...
[04:38] <Crisco> I had that problem
[04:38] <bluefox83> i need some help with an sdcard
[04:38] <bluefox83> >.>
[04:38] <Crisco> did you delete a recover partition? that's what I did >_>
[04:38] <KM0201> arrrghhh: that is weird.... did you install grub to the MBR, or to a /boot
[04:39] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: I see a process gnome-session that might wipe out most of your X sessions
[04:39] <rtdos> i have disabled the graphical login so that i'm starting xserver manually, how do i use startx to specify which desktop i want to use: KDE or GNOME?
[04:39] <Chr|s> xangua I think you are right. I think that is where I found it before. thanks for the info
[04:39] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: I'm not sure
[04:39] <arrrghhh> KM0201, mbr
[04:39] <Glu> I need to delete a file by inode number, but the file has 0000 permissions, any suggestions? Im using a cron job to accomplish commands
[04:39] <Crisco> arrrghhh: did you delete any partitions?
[04:39] <aflyingturtle> sacarlson: just go for either one?
[04:39] <KM0201> arrrghhh: thats a strange one
[04:39] <dw-> so i pressed some weird keyboard combination in Firefox and all of a sudden my whole desktop has its colours inverted... what are the keys to get it back? lol
[04:40] <arrrghhh> Crisco, there were three.  i removed a recovery partition... maybe that was it?  that wasn't the boot partition tho, it's not where windows is installed.
[04:40] <Crisco> yeah
[04:40] <aflyingturtle> dw-:do you have advanced compiz installed?
[04:40] <Crisco> that was it :P
[04:40] <Crisco> I did that too to my dell laptop
[04:40] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: if you hit the top they will all fall
[04:40] <arrrghhh> Crisco, i've done this before without this problem.
[04:40] <Crisco> did the exact same thing
[04:40] <dw-> aflyingturtle: dunno
[04:40] <evilvish> dw-: check compiz settings
[04:40] <dw-> evilvish: k
[04:40] <Crisco> arrrghhh: what model is it?
[04:40] <arrrghhh> Crisco, how can i fix it?  windows is still installed
[04:40] <administrator_> 456
[04:40] <arrrghhh> Crisco, inspiron n4010
[04:40] <aflyingturtle> sacarlson: so just hit one out?
[04:40] <cr1990> Does anyone know what would cause a network card to be recognized by ubuntu, and a DHCP router, yet all attempts to connect to the internet fail anyway?
[04:40] <Crisco> well, I just decided to use Linux only
[04:40] <cr1990> ifconfig shows that the card is working
[04:40] <Crisco> but I do have it in a VM
[04:40] <administrator_> 好
[04:40] <dw-> ok... alt-f2 compiz solved it
[04:40] <dw-> lol
[04:40] <dw-> thx
[04:41] <aflyingturtle> sacarlson: I'll hit out the binary. It sounds more important
[04:41] <Crisco> the only thing I can think of is to reinstall arrrghhh I tried everything
[04:41] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: experiment at your own risk,  just start to kill and see what happens,  maybe in a virtualbox session that won't damage anything
[04:41] <administrator_> 不会
[04:41] <gunndawg> Hey folks, how do I get rid of all the outdated verions of the ubuntu kernel in my grub ?
[04:41] <arrrghhh> Crisco, fawk, seriously!??!
[04:41] <gunndawg> it keeps adding more to my grub menu
[04:41] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, delete them in /boot and update-grub
[04:41] <Crisco> arrrghhh: well, atleast that's what happened with my Inspiron 1545
[04:41] <gunndawg> thx arrrghhh, I'll look for them
[04:41] <arrrghhh> Crisco, oh noes.  this isn't my laptop.
[04:41] <Crisco> aaronyy: that's some nice IPv5
[04:42] <Crisco> *6
[04:42] <arrrghhh> lol @ipv5
[04:42] <Crisco> arrrghhh: well, if you have an external you could backup your stuff then reload it
[04:42] <Crisco> or you could try fixing the MBR from a windows install disc
[04:42] <arrrghhh> Crisco, hrm.  i'd really prefer to avoid that.  i think i'll try to add a manual grub entry.
[04:42] <Crisco> lol tried that
[04:43] <sacarlson> cr1990: ok so pastebin us sudo iptables -L
[04:43] <Crisco> came up with a  "can't find bootloader" error or something like that
[04:43] <arrrghhh> Crisco, so what about blowing up the mbr thru the windows recovery disc, then reinstalling grub?
[04:43] <Crisco> arrrghhh: that's what I meant
[04:43] <Crisco> it didn't work for me
[04:43] <aflyingturtle> sacarlson: That was weird. Left me with a blinking cursor that wouldn't let me type anything. Reacted to the power button though and turned off succesfully
[04:43] <Crisco> but you might have more luck
[04:43] <arrrghhh> Crisco, that didn't work?  oh man.
[04:43] <gunndawg> arrrghhh do I delete the .gz files or the text files in /boot ?
[04:43] <Jon--> Need to take .one format and convert it to be readable (doesn't have to be editable, pdf works) in Ubuntu. Easiest way? Possible?
[04:44] <Crisco> probably because I'm more used to bash than cmd
[04:44] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: I knew I could break something
[04:44] <Crisco> so I was really confused
[04:44] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, i just find the file names and do rm *2.6.xx*
[04:44] <aflyingturtle> sacarlson: I think its ok. Cause it reacted to power off succesfully.
[04:44] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, just be *VERY* careful to not delete the newest kernel!
[04:44] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: maybe before you close it you should just try <alt><ctl> +f2
[04:44] <cr1990> h/o one second sacarlson (sorry dont remember the reply IRC command)
[04:44] <gunndawg> arrrghhh, thats what I am worried about
[04:44] <aflyingturtle> sacarlson whats that supposed to do?
[04:45] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, find the one with the highest number :P
[04:45] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: that will put you at a none graphic console
[04:45] <Jon--> Need to take .one format and convert it to be readable (doesn't have to be editable, pdf works) in Ubuntu. Easiest way? Possible?
[04:45] <gunndawg> arrrghhh, ok
[04:45] <NoobUntu> How do I set my permission level to owner?
[04:45] <Jon--> NoobUntu: Do you mean to root?
[04:46] <Jon--> NoobUntu: Or from root down to the owner?
[04:46] <sacarlson> aflyingturtle: <alt><ctl> + f7 should return you to your X session
[04:46] <unreturned> what the best irc client with gui on ubuntu?
[04:46] <xangua> unreturned: the one you like
[04:47] <sacarlson> sorry I got to go eat breakfast be back in 15 min
[04:47] <aflyingturtle> sacarlson: WORKED. thank you so much. have been trying to figure this out for ages
[04:47] <jiohdi> unreturned: x-chat and konversation are good
[04:47]  * Crisco uses X-chat
[04:47] <unreturned> jiohdi, thx i`m try it
[04:47] <gunndawg> arrrghhh the newest version is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:47] <unreturned> пинг пинг
[04:48] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, so delete all other entires basically
[04:48] <unreturned> ух ты, здесь и русский пашет))
[04:48] <maod> anyone know if it's possible to pipe a tty virtual console into a file?  (this is for lxc containers, but could be applicable anywhere...)
[04:48] <gunndawg> arrrghhh so anything that isnt <IP_ADDRESS> I can get rid of i ?
[04:48] <Jon--> Can non-root level get write access to a root file without chown down to their level?
[04:48] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, just delete the stuff that has 2.6.xxx in it.  but NOT anything that has <IP_ADDRESS>.
[04:49] <cr1990> sorry, that did not work as intended. My mistake
[04:49] <gunndawg> arrrghhh ok
[04:49] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, if you're worried, pastebin ls /boot
[04:49] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, and i'll give you a command (or a couple of commands) to clean it up.
[04:49] <Jon--> Can non-root level get write access to a root file without chown down to their level?  [come on it's easy question]
[04:50] <Jon--> Basically asking if chmod if sufficent to allow r/w from user on a currently read-only file.
[04:50] <gunndawg> arrrghhh doesnt give me permission to remove them
[04:51] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, sudo?
[04:51] <gunndawg> arrrghhh no im just using rm inside the /boot dir
[04:52] <}dec3pti0n{> hello
[04:53] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, i'm saying use sudo dude...
[04:53] <gunndawg> arrrghhh I am rather new to linux so pardon me
[04:53] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, no worries
[04:53] <gunndawg> so sudo apt-get remove ?
[04:53] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, that's for removing software.
[04:53] <gunndawg> I tried that inside the /boot dir and said it couldnt find any package named that
[04:53] <gunndawg> oh ok
[04:53] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, pastebin ls /boot
[04:54] <gunndawg> ok
[04:54] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, basically type 'ls /boot' at a prompt and pastebin the result
[04:54] <rww> arrrghhh: Is there any particular reason you're advising to delete files out of /boot directly instead of just removing the relevant packages?
[04:54] <arrrghhh> rww, is there a better way?  i just rm the stuff in boot and do update-grub.
[04:55] <gunndawg> arrrghhh, http://pastebin.com/MfaWHZVY
[04:55] <rww> arrrghhh: yes. Kernel packages are named linux-image-2.6.XX-YY-generic (assuming one's using the -generic kernel). Remove the ones not being used...
[04:56] <gunndawg> every time kernel updates it keeps adding another boot option to my grb, hope I can get this sorted
[04:56] <arrrghhh> rww, ha i didn't realize it was that easy.
[04:56] <gunndawg> I dont know which ones to remove or how to remove them, did I mention I was new here, heh
[04:57] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, i guess there's a better way.  "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic linux-image-2.6.35-24-generic"
[04:57] <gunndawg> ah ok
[04:58] <rww> !info linux-image-generic
[04:58] <gunndawg> ok it got rid of both of those
[04:58] <rww> ah. guess they came out with a new version since my last package update.
[04:58] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, then sudo update-grub.  you're done.
[04:58] <rww> the package removal also triggers update-grub ;)
[04:58] <arrrghhh> it probably already did that for you actually.
[04:58] <arrrghhh> yea lol i just thought that.
[04:58] <gunndawg> guess I should restart and see if they are still in my grub or not, heh
[04:59] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, yea just reboot.  forget that update-grub command :P
[04:59] <gunndawg> already did it
[04:59] <gunndawg> oh well
[04:59] <gunndawg> lol brb
[05:00] <superglados> anybody know how to change the mouse speed for a laptop touchpad?
[05:00] <gunndawg> yay, fixed :)
[05:00] <gunndawg> thx guys
[05:00] <amit> i cannot logout to my yahoo or facebook account,plz help me
[05:00] <heatxsink> anyone know of open office alternatives?
[05:01] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, np.  thanks to rww for pointing out that i like to do things the hard way :P
[05:01] <jiohdi> heatxsink: libre
[05:01] <daniel32708> heatxsink: openoffice is old, now it is  libreoffice
[05:01] <daniel32708> libreoffice is the default for 11.04
[05:01] <gunndawg> arrrghhh how often do they update the kernel so I know how often I need to do that ?
[05:01] <soreau> superglados: Try sys>prefs>mouse
[05:01] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, i don't think that's on a regular schedule... not sure.
[05:01] <arrrghhh> every couple of months i think.
[05:01] <gunndawg> oh alright
[05:02] <soreau> aniWhat does that have to do with ubuntu?
[05:02] <superglados> Soreau: doesn't effect touchpads, so nothing changes.
[05:02] <gunndawg> learn something new every day over here. So far all I have really done with linux is write a few of my own shell scripts
[05:02] <gunndawg> I am a programmer, though new to linux
[05:02] <leapy0yo> libreoffice looks like a different developmnent than openoffice... that is seperate
[05:03] <cafe_bing> hi,I have a little trouble with upstart.I want to make  stardict run automatic after poweron. But i did not find the event emit starting stardict.
[05:03] <cafe_bing> start on runlevel [2345]
[05:04] <cafe_bing> the result is (stardict:848): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[05:04] <rtdos> leapy0yo: i think libreoffice will be included in the next release of ubuntu (unfortunately i'm on a different machine otherwise i'd share the link)
[05:05] <rww> !libreoffice
[05:05] <cafe_bing> the event should be "start on starting Xserver" ?
[05:05] <cdybeijing> Hi all, I'm having an issue that I can't seem to figure out... running lucid... my Rhythmbox is opening itself up, and activating it's own window on my screen constantly... even when I minimize or try to close the program, it will pop back up again in 5 seconds or so... is this a known bug?
[05:05] <cafe_bing> where can i find that?
[05:06] <amit> plz help me why i cannot logout to my yahoo or facebook account  on my system while gmail doesnot give such problem? help me
[05:06] <salmon> so i just installed skype, as the canoical page suguested i installed pavcontroll or whatever it's called, im using a usb head set, i did the test call and when it played back my voice all i heard was static, any suggestions?
[05:07] <rww> cafe_bing: If you're looking to start a GUI program after Xorg starts, upstart is not the best way to do it. Use your desktop environment's session manager (e.g. System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications in GNOME).
[05:07] <arrrghhh> Crisco, lol when you tried to restore win7 did it basically say you have no OSes installed?
[05:07] <cdybeijing> anyone have any insight on my rhythmbox problem?
[05:07] <amit> also on typing yahoo.com the browser doesnot opens the page. i have to go to yahoo login page through google
[05:08] <Crisco> arrrghhh: no, I just didn't know how to do it
[05:08] <Crisco> and I don't think I'm going to go back
[05:09] <amit> no answer?
[05:09] <Crisco> cause Linux is too amazing to go back to windows :P
[05:09] <amit> ????
[05:09] <arrrghhh> yea.  my neighbor is freakin out that his windows is gone lol
[05:09] <salmon>  so i just installed skype, as the canoical page suguested i installed pavcontroll or whatever it's called, im using a usb head set, i did the test call and when it played back my voice all i heard was static, any suggestions?
[05:10] <gunndawg> I am loving WeeChat, so much better than Xchat
[05:10] <cafe_bing> rww: thank you !
[05:11] <Crisco> arrrghhh: tell him that you can back up his data and restore it if it doesn't work
[05:12] <Guest25428> weechat??
[05:12] <arrrghhh> Crisco, so reinstall windows, then recover GRUB?
[05:12] <Crisco> arrrghhh: that should work
[05:12] <Crisco> but remember to backup your data
[05:13] <arrrghhh> Crisco, oh yea, i'll backup his data.  thanks.
[05:13] <Crisco> you should also try his settings and programs
[05:13] <Crisco> try to get it as if nothing ever happened
[05:13] <gunndawg> I feel accomplished writing my won shell script tool ;0
[05:14] <soreau> With apt-get update && apt-get upgrade I get "The following packages have been kept back:  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic". Is there a way to fix it?
[05:14] <soreau> or at least find out why they're being held back
[05:14] <gunndawg> soreau, try apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:14] <Crisco> night
[05:15] <Chr|s> How to I remove Mail, Compose New Messaeg and Contacts from the indicator applet? I want nothing to do with Evolution. I use Thunderbird for my email needs.
[05:15] <fakhir> hello. ubuntu server 10.10. i have "@reboot /root/firewall.sh > /dev/null 2>&1" in crontab. the script works fine but does not run at boot.
[05:15] <soreau> gunndawg: Seems to have worked, thanks
[05:15] <xangua> Chr|s: sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages ; i believe
[05:16] <gunndawg> Soreau, your welcome, and your also the first person I have been able to help as I am new my self! :)
[05:16] <gunndawg> soreau, glad it worked :)
[05:16] <john38> Is there a laptop version of 10.04
[05:16] <xiongZW> hi all
[05:16] <arrrghhh> john38, there's the netbook remix...
[05:16] <john38> arrrghhh, is that for laptop
[05:17] <soreau> gunndawg: Well I am not new by any means but I was feeling lazy tonight, so congrats. I'm usually helping other people ;)
[05:17] <gunndawg> john38, desktop version should work just fine for a laptop
[05:17] <gunndawg> if its a "netbook" then there is a netbook version
[05:17] <john38> gunndawg, i cant get wireless internet to work
[05:17] <soreau> hi xiongZW
[05:17] <arrrghhh> john38, there isn't a specific 'laptop' version.
[05:17] <gunndawg> john38, I am on a toshiba laptop with desktop version of 10.10 and my wireless worked right away, no tweaking
[05:18] <gunndawg> maybe I just got lucky
[05:18] <arrrghhh> john38, if you have a closed-source driver card connect it to a cable and run the 'additional drivers'
[05:18] <john38> gunndawg, yeah i got a toshiba satellite
[05:18] <john38> arrrghhh, good idea
[05:18] <gunndawg> john38, mine is a Toshiba Satelitte C655
[05:18] <arrrghhh> gunndawg, if the drivers are OSS then it can be included.  if the drivers are closed, then it won't work.
[05:19] <Chr|s_> xangua, that uninstalled the Indicator applet itself, I didn't want that
[05:19] <gunndawg> arrrghhh we have the same laptop type, we probably have the same wireless adapter
[05:19] <gunndawg> arrrghhh, so it should work just fine, I figured.
[05:19] <john38> gunndawg, i know 10.10 supports most wireless
[05:19] <gunndawg> john38, ah right, I forgot you were talking about 10.04, my bad
[05:19] <arrrghhh> john38, why aren't you using 10.10?
[05:20] <john38> arrrghhh, it suck dont like it
[05:20] <leapy0yo> libreoffice does not replace open office
[05:20] <gunndawg> I <3 linux an dubuntu :)
[05:20] <john38> arrrghhh, i prefer 10.04
[05:20] <arrrghhh> john38, lol ok
[05:20] <arrrghhh> then don't use wireless...?
[05:20] <Loshki> fakhir: dunno why it doesn't work. But consider running 'once, at startup' things from /etc/rc.local instead.
[05:20] <sam_sam> i m getting this error -->configuration defaults for gnome power manager have not been installed correctly <-- i cant move mouse or keyboard.. other alt+ctrl <f1> etc doesnt work
[05:20] <john38> arrrghhh, i do that addtional drivers......
[05:21] <sam_sam> I cant login and  nothing responds
[05:21] <KM0201> john38: how on earth could you say 10.10 sucks, and 10.04 is better?.. they are essentially the same.
[05:21] <Jon--> Need to take .one format and convert it to be readable (doesn't have to be editable, pdf works) in Ubuntu. Easiest way? Possible?  [Come on guys been asking a while and even helping a user right now]
[05:22] <rww> leapy0yo: LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice.org that has the support of a large amount of the OpenOffice community. Ubuntu's been using the set of patches that make up most of LibreOffice's changes for a long time anyway, so us replacing OO with LO in Ubuntu makes a lot of sense.
[05:22] <KM0201> john38: whats your wireless device anyway?..
[05:23] <john38> KM0201, trust me 10.10 has bugs you can notice it
[05:23] <john38> KM0201, Toshiba Satellite A660
[05:23] <KM0201> john38: i've been using 10.10 since it came out, and i've had exactly zero problems
[05:23] <KM0201> john38: thats a laptop model, not a wireless model
[05:23] <gunndawg> john38, like I said I have the C655
[05:24] <gunndawg> john38, and no problems on 10.10
[05:24] <KM0201> gunndawg: but its horrid!
[05:24] <KM0201> lol
[05:24] <KM0201> problems are just creeping around the corner!
[05:24] <Jon--> Need to take .one format and convert it to be readable (doesn't have to be editable, pdf works) in Ubuntu. Easiest way? Possible?  [Come on guys been asking a while and even helping a user right now]
[05:24] <gunndawg> KM0201, what is horrid ?
[05:24] <KM0201> gunndawg: i was being facetious
[05:24] <john38> KM0201, hey if you like it thats fine
[05:24] <KM0201> john38: and you've STILL not answered the question....
[05:24] <gunndawg> KM0201, I know :) but calling 10.10 horrid or my laptop horrid?!
[05:25] <KM0201> 10.10 :)
[05:25] <gunndawg> ah ok
[05:25] <sam_sam>  I cant login and  nothing responds ,i m getting this error -->configuration defaults for gnome power manager have not been installed correctly <-- i cant move mouse or keyboard.. other alt+ctrl <f1> etc doesnt work
[05:25] <gunndawg> KM0201, I am new to linux and 10.10 is my first distro, so far I love it
[05:26] <gunndawg> KM0201, I am an avid windows programmer and looking to expand my horizons :)
[05:26] <KM0201> gunndawg: be not swayed, it's a good newb distro... i'm not sure what john38's problem is, but i suspect it has to do with the guy pounding on the keyboard
[05:26] <opakavic> does anybody have clue about next mahor release of ubuntu?
[05:26] <opakavic> major*
[05:26] <john38> KM0201, im trying to use wireless antenna
[05:27] <KM0201> john38: WHAT... WIRELESS... DEVICE... DO... YOU... HAVE... ?
[05:27] <gunndawg> KM0201 so far I have more fun drinking beer and hashing my shell scripts together on linux than I do drinking beer and playing call of duty on windows ;)
[05:27] <Chr|s> opakavic, Yes join #ubuntu+1 and also  check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
[05:27] <john38> KM0201, take it easy not using adapter
[05:27] <KM0201> gunndawg: lol, well i'm not much of a "shell script feller"
[05:27]  * KM0201 sighs... i'm gonna talk to my pet brick, i get better responses
[05:27] <gunndawg> KM0201, but shell scripting is so much fun! I have made my own update and maint. utility
[05:28] <KM0201> just not my thing
[05:28] <gunndawg> KM0102, it runs all my package updates, updates the distros, clears cache and does trash clean up all from a tidly litle menu I made :)
[05:28] <KM0201> gunndawg: i'm not realy a power user.
[05:28] <rww> KM0201: best to just step away. getting frustrated in-channel just leads to ops having to poke you ;P
[05:28] <KM0201> rww: i think i'm still knocking out this flu, not to mention spending about 90min dealing w/ a wubi mess..lol
[05:29] <john38> gunndawg, you connected through your laptops antenna right
[05:29] <Jon--> Need to take .one format and convert it to be readable (doesn't have to be editable, pdf works) in Ubuntu. Easiest way? Possible?  [Come on guys been asking a while and even helping a user right now]
[05:29] <gunndawg> john38, no antenna, built in wireless
[05:29] <Cyd> jon--
[05:30] <Cyd> it's almost 12:30
[05:30] <john38> gunndawg, ..yeah thats what i meant
[05:30] <Cyd> in NYC
[05:30] <Cyd> am, not pm
[05:30] <KM0201> john38: lmao, thats what i asked you like 20x..
[05:30] <gunndawg> john38, then yes, I use my laptops built in wireless, worked just fine on ubuntu 10.10
[05:30] <gunndawg> john38, no driver installing, tweaking or anything
[05:30] <ibnarrashid> john38: you can try to get a reading of your wireless chipset using 'lspci | grep net'
[05:30] <KM0201> gunndawg: impossible, 10.10 sucks!
[05:30] <gunndawg> KM0201, ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
[05:30] <KM0201> lol
[05:31] <gunndawg> KM0201, 10.10 works just perfect for me, sounds like if I went with 10.04 I wouldnt be online...
[05:31] <bl0wh0rd> i'm running 10.04
[05:31] <bl0wh0rd> flawlessly
[05:31] <KM0201> gunndawg: no, you probably would be, becuase you can ask/answer a question...lol.
[05:31] <Cyd> KM0201
[05:31] <Cyd> not today
[05:31] <rww> ubottu: enter | Cyd
[05:31] <Cyd> >:(
[05:32] <john38> gunndawg, i know it would work with 10.10 im trying to get it to work on 10.04
[05:32] <gunndawg> KM0201, point is... my ubuntu works just perfect for me :)
[05:33] <KM0201> gunndawg: i know yours does... i've just tried to help john38 and it's like he just wants to complain, and won't answer questions...
[05:33] <john38> KM0201, take it easy ok 10.10 is good damn
[05:33] <Loshki> Jon--: what is '.one format'?
[05:33] <Jon--> OneNote format
[05:33] <rww> Alrighty people. Ubuntu version debates to #ubuntu-offtopic, metadiscussion to there or LiveJournal.   Anybody happen to know if there's any recent word on poulsbo support in maverick?
[05:35] <john38> KM0201, its built in ....
[05:35] <KM0201> john38: no kidding?
[05:35] <john38> KM0201, so whats your suggestion
[05:35] <Jon--> Loshki: Should have tagged you. It's for OneNote.
[05:35] <crond> yondering, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/
[05:35] <KM0201> john38: well... *I*.. would probably open a terminal and type "lspci" w/o quotes, and hit enter, and find your wireless device in that list, and tell us what it is.
[05:35] <Chr|s> john38 and KM0201 keep it cool guys, no reason to get bent out of shape
[05:35] <Loshki> Jon--: yeah, been googling. Does this help? http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1595229
[05:36] <john38> KM0201, one sec...
[05:36] <KM0201> Chr|s: i'm not bent out of shape.. if this place bent me out of shape, i wouldn't come here.
[05:36]  * KM0201 sings the hallelujah chorus
[05:36] <Jon--> Loshki: That thread has 0 replies helping that individual. ;p
[05:36] <yondering> crond, thank you.. unfortunately, I've tried this on my ao751h, and it seems to create other problems.
[05:37] <crond> yondering, you can also try the fbdev, iegd and emgd drivers
[05:37] <Jon--> Loshki: Oh. He wasn't asking for help. Basically, his sol'n was to load OneNote in Wine. That'd mean I'd have to go torrent one, I just had my buddy send me some class notes in .one. =(
[05:37] <crond> yondering, egmd is Intel's 'official' driver for the gma500
[05:37] <yondering> crond, oh, really.. thank you.  making a note of that, will give it a go.
[05:38] <yondering> I wonder if the egmd one will handle unity..
[05:38] <wjlafrance> For some reason, when I open Network Manager in Gnome, none of my interfaces show in the list
[05:38] <john38> KM0201, its the network controller right
[05:38] <Jon--> Loshki: There are clones of OneNote but they don't open OneNote files. Is the FOSS community currently unable to open OneNote files at ALL? Do I have to go pirate/buy Microshaft software and wine it to use this thing?
[05:38] <KM0201> john38: well, probably, but you may well have 2 network controllers, you should be able to tell which one is wireless