[00:00] <shahriyarguliyev> cya
[00:00] <_k2s_> reisio, some footer blocks that are floated to the left are displayed incorrect. They are are suposed to be in line (have widths set and everything) but in the phone those divs get knocked lines down
[00:00] <terminhell> Or you can sacrfice 3 virgins and commit your soul to Moharns Daggon for a 1 minute install...
[00:00] <bazhang> terminhell, stop that
[00:00] <terminhell> >.<
[00:00] <reisio> _k2s_: why would you float a footer? Also: why would you even _have_ a footer, web sites aren't pieces of paper
[00:00] <mrguser> hi
[00:01] <mrguser> Hello guys
[00:01] <terminhell> footer information is stored on some sites, ones that use CMS's like drupal themes to place data always at the bottom of websites
[00:01] <hangdeadman> after I type in ubuntu 12.04 terminal unity --replace, I get :WARN  2012-06-07 18:48:57 unity.iconloader IconLoader.cpp:438 Unable to load icon stock-person at size 24
[00:02] <terminhell> hangdeadman: what is that supposed to do?
[00:02] <HoNgOuRu> I uninstalled pulseaudio cause only 1 soundcard was working, after reinstalling it now the sound card that was not working before is working now, but the one working before is not working now.... any clues?????
[00:02] <etfb> _k2s_: reisio shows a limited grasp of web development experience, but he/she is right that your design sounds a little complicated.  I have an android phone, and much more CSS/HTML experience. Send me a link and I'll take a look.
[00:02] <reisio> <- professional web developer of legend
[00:03] <terminhell> oh snap
[00:03] <hangdeadman> terminhell: unity --replace resets unity after any break in the desktop from what I understand.
[00:03] <_k2s_> reisio, sorry i maybe been unclear its just a div that is at the bottom of the content which has additional divs floated with set widths. I need this block for additional info :) (my client does actually)
[00:03] <reisio> _k2s_: it should appear the same unless you are doing something quite wrong (like relying on browser width)
[00:04] <shahriyarguliyev> HoNgOuRu: I have had the same problem. Look up this link, it worked as well : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[00:04] <terminhell> _k2s_: are you using joomla or some other CMS? Maybe theres an addon for mobile optimization?
[00:04] <reisio> terminhell: that'd only make it worse
[00:04] <HoNgOuRu> shahriyarguliyev, thank u
[00:05] <_k2s_> etfb, i'm sorry but i can't send you a link i have the site on my localhost.
[00:05] <terminhell> hangdeadman: ah, sorry, no idea, i dont use ubuntu, i just try to help with general linux questions here, unity ive the least experience with
[00:05] <shahriyarguliyev> HoNgOuRu: ur welcome)
[00:05] <HoNgOuRu> shahriyarguliyev, wish me good luck
[00:05] <terminhell> port forward?
[00:05] <HoNgOuRu> thats a long command
[00:05] <hangdeadman> terminhell: unity sucks, I just don't know what might be better.
[00:05] <shahriyarguliyev> HoNgOuRu: gl, wish me too. im gonna install OS
[00:06] <terminhell> anything else?
[00:06] <HoNgOuRu> ok, GOOD LUCK!
[00:06] <clark> Help me... I think that i might have found the solution to my audio problems, but i do not know how to implement the directions of "adding radeon.audio=1 as a kernel boot parameter" (as per described at http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/04/14/audio-over-hdmi-and-displayport-in-ubuntu-12-04/)
[00:06] <terminhell> hangdeadman: you could give gnome-shell, kde, xfce, lxde etc...too many options out there
[00:06] <_k2s_> terminhell, all is well with the site just the footer i could correct it with no problem but with android i can not browse the DOM or just use a debugger like firebug..
[00:07] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: "Installation is complete.  You may now run Ubuntu on other computers by booting them with this drive inserted."  I made a Make Startup DIsk. gave this message. damn i DID STH wrong?
[00:07] <terminhell> _k2s_: ahhhh, is your droid rooted?
[00:07] <med_> clark, you can just break in on grub with any key and then use "e" to edit your boot line
[00:07] <med_> and give it a go
[00:07] <med_> or edit /etc/default/grub
[00:07] <med_> clark, ^
[00:07] <med_> and then sudo update-grub
[00:08] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: hit enter and remove the disk, see if it boots
[00:08] <clark> awesome, i'll give it a shot. Thanks med_
[00:08] <_k2s_> terminhell, sorry do not know what that means. Have little knowledge on androids.
[00:08] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: I dont want to boot it from usb but to install it from usb, wth?
[00:08] <Ugly_Duck> can you upgrade a ubuntu desktop installation to a server installation?
[00:08] <bazhang> !lamp | Ugly_Duck
[00:09] <shahriyarguliyev> Ugly_Duck: ubuntu server is not for free
[00:09] <stef1a> anyone know how to right click by tapping on the mouse-pad (instead of actually using the button) on a laptop using ubuntu 12.04?
[00:09] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: then yes, i have no idea what you did then, reiso spelled it out clearly, tell me what exactly you did
[00:09] <bazhang> shahriyarguliyev, sure it is
[00:09] <ejo> sidegrade sort of -- ubuntu server simply has less desktop / GUI packages installed.
[00:09] <shahriyarguliyev> bazhang: what for free?
[00:09] <terminhell> stef1a: tap the bottom right corner
[00:09] <bazhang> shahriyarguliyev, it's all free. dont answer if you dont know
[00:09] <stef1a> terminhell: wow! thanks! so simple...
[00:10] <quebre> (...)https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP(...) <- haha, why is this common info require https protcol, silly thing is silly, please do not abuse https like that ;)
[00:10] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: can i install OS from that usb? or only boot OS ?
[00:10] <hangdeadman> terminhell: can you also middle click using the mouse pad on a laptop?
[00:10] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: not sure, both is possible, but im not sure what you did exactly
[00:11] <terminhell> hangdeadman: if you have your xorg configured for it im sure, or if your pad supoprts multi gestures
[00:12] <Ugly_Duck> bazhang: i was going to say, how the hell can you download it without paying for it if it wasn't free
[00:12] <bazhang> Ugly_Duck, just install lamp, and desktop is then server, once you set it up
[00:13] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: i think that message is standard, saying that you can continue to use that usb to install ubuntu on other computers...
[00:13] <shahriyarguliyev> bazhang: I am sorry for the wrong information, but once i wanted to install Ub.server it was not for free. now i looked up site both are free, also Cloud.
[00:13] <Ugly_Duck> its funny how i could install 7.10 on the server, but 12 wouldn't install
[00:13] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: and that the installation to your C: is complete
[00:14] <terminhell> id wrather use debian for servers
[00:14] <qwebirc68172> hey can anyone help i installed all updaes but now have a few issues biggest being no keyboard connection
[00:14] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: if so I will restart soon to probe
[00:14] <terminhell> usb keyboard?
[00:15] <qwebirc68172> yeah wireless was fine b4
[00:15] <terminhell> bluetooth disabled?
[00:15] <qwebirc68172> maybe checking
[00:16] <qwebirc68172> noadapters found
[00:16] <qwebirc68172> off
[00:16] <terminhell> does it show up in lspci?
[00:17] <qwebirc68172> wheres that
[00:17] <terminhell> lspci | grep bluetooth
[00:17] <Robr3rd> I ran "gksudo nautilus" did a few things, then it stopped responding so I "xkill"ed it. Now, however, any time I type in "gksudo nautilus", I get the passwrod prompt, but a Root instance of Nautilus does not pop up afterwards.
[00:17] <qwebirc68172> bt visability off
[00:17] <terminhell> Robr3rd: restart
[00:17] <escott> Robr3rd, running nautilus as root is a bad idea
[00:17] <terminhell> qwebirc68172: run it from a terminal
[00:18] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: do you know what exckusive advantages does ubuntu server have? that are not included in ubuntu desktop?
[00:18] <qwebirc68172> lspci | grep bluetooth?
[00:18] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: no GUI for uneeded overhead and cpu/mem usage
[00:18] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Yes, restarting does solve the problem, but this happens every time I try doing this, then restart, then happens again.
[00:18] <randomusername> on ubuntu 12.04, python doesn't find the packages that gets installed. for example, I try to install urllib3 and it's put in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ but when I run python (-v tells me it's 2.7) it can't find the package
[00:18] <katzenklavier> hey there - I'm trying to get Minecraft to install on Ubuntu but I'm having trouble.  Anyone have any idea what I need to do?
[00:19] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: only CLI ? or GUI is also included ?
[00:19] <randomusername> i've tried both pip install urllib3 and python setup.py install in a downloaded copy, and it's not found
[00:19] <Robr3rd> escott, I am fully aware, but then again, doing things via Terminal doesn't exactly expedite the process. ;) All I'm doing is managing themes in /usr/share so there's not much harm I could do anyway. :)
[00:19] <terminhell> Robr3rd: run it from a terminal and check the output
[00:19] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: CLI only yes and a few other things relevent to server environments
[00:20] <terminhell> Robr3rd: what kind of themes, there maybe tools already in place that will make the process easier
[00:20] <shahriyarguliyev> terminhell: what do u work? system admin?
[00:21] <terminhell> shahriyarguliyev: freelance pc repair, and startup watch maker haha, i just have a passion for linux.
[00:21] <terminhell> though ive done sys admin in the past
[00:21] <jagginess> anyone knows of something similar like this? http://keepnote.org/
[00:21] <bazhang> !ot | shahriyarguliyev
[00:21] <terminhell> built webservers from scratch (hardware included) out of my house
[00:21] <Robr3rd> terminhell, In Terminal there is no output. I run the command, enter the sudo password, and then the Terminal cursor skips to the next line and blinks, as if a program is running. So it seems to be running, but nothing is actually (visually) changing.
[00:22] <terminhell> Robr3rd: keep terminal open until you run into the problem
[00:22] <shahriyarguliyev> bazhang: are you afraid of me? cos i gave wrong info?
[00:22] <KRomo> what email client does everyone uswe on ubuntu
[00:22] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Well that's just the problem -- there isn't a window open to *cause* a problem.
[00:22] <bazhang> shahriyarguliyev, this is NOT the chat channel: it's for ubuntu support only.  #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[00:23] <terminhell> Robr3rd: try just sudo nautilus from terminal then
[00:23] <bazhang> !gksudo | terminhell
[00:23] <shahriyarguliyev> bazhang: Uh-huh! I was about to leave
[00:23] <randomusername> when I try to install python packages in ubuntu python doesn't find them, what's wrong?
[00:24] <home> having issues trying to setup opengl support on my intel card... anyone knowledgable?
[00:24] <terminhell> bazhang: obviously gksudo isnt working properly
[00:25]  * ki7rw is ticked off about having to clone my pc mac address to my router to get online with my cable internet provider
[00:25] <terminhell> randomusername: check pythons paths?
[00:26] <randomusername> where are those stored?
[00:26] <terminhell> probably in /etc/python? i forget
[00:27] <home> tryin to play Braid and its telling me "Reason: Failed to initialize OpenGL display." ... anyone able to point me? i've been at it all day trying to figure this out
[00:27] <randomusername> terminhell, okay thanks, I think i'll figure it out from here
[00:27] <ferris> when upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 i am getting error message "error adding /etc/ssl/certs/<certs>.pem
[00:28] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Well, "sudo" doesn't work either
[00:28] <terminhell> ferris: sounds like importing pgp keys is fubard
[00:29] <terminhell> Robr3rd: kill X and log back in, see if it works
[00:30] <ferris> terminhell, how can i import the "pgp keys" in recovery console?
[00:30] <terminhell> ferris: not sure if that is indeed the issue, but ya, id google the error while you wait here.
[00:30] <ferris> ok
[00:30] <Phiscribe> maybe, try dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates (MAYBE) for the error
[00:31] <ferris> thanks Phiscribe
[00:31] <home> lol well ferris
[00:31] <home> could always do -f on that upgrade
[00:31] <home> make a backup first :P
[00:31] <ferris> did the upgrade through upgrade manager
[00:31] <home> :S
[00:31] <ferris> watching terminal for errors
[00:32] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Yes, restarting X fixes it, just like a full system reboot.
[00:33] <terminhell> so its an issue with X it sounds like
[00:33] <terminhell> update xorg?
[00:33] <Zephyrusuo> hello i just tried to install ia32-libs and it says the following http://pastebin.com/bhLKY6rm ia32-libs-multiarch also is not listed in synaptic i have tried multiple mirrors. any help would be appreciated
[00:33] <Zephyrusuo> i have tried sudo apt-get -f install
[00:33] <Robr3rd> terminhell, It's all up-to-date
[00:33] <Zephyrusuo> does no good
[00:36] <escott> Zephyrusuo, 12.04 does not need ia32-libs just sudo apt-get install program:i386
[00:36] <jagginess> !bug
[00:36] <terminhell> Robr3rd: have you tried another file manager? like thunar?
[00:36] <mynotes> test
[00:36] <Robr3rd> terminhell, No
[00:36] <ferris> fail
[00:36] <Zephyrusuo> teamviewer is dependent upon it though
[00:36] <terminhell> Robr3rd: because now it sounds like a nautilus issue
[00:37] <Bower^> i've used apt-get to install pear then used pear to grab phpunit. i've added the path to phpunit to $PATH and it works when i type phpunit into the terminal. however it doesn't work if i try "sudo phpunit". how could i resolve this?
[00:37] <Robr3rd> terminhell, Alright. :) Well, thank you for your time and assistance. :)
[00:38] <mynotes> how to reset icon on ubuntu
[00:39] <adroidman> I need help....
[00:39] <adroidman> is there anyone online
[00:39] <ferris> adroidman, what up?
[00:39] <adroidman> i was updating my Ubuntu partition and the install froze. My computer is dual booted and i cant get it to boot to the usb so I can install again
[00:39] <adroidman> I was on 10.4 and was going to 10.10
[00:40] <elijah> How would I go about buying a song on iTunes? I would much rather not but the artist only sells on iTunes.
[00:40] <wawowe3> elijah: download it elsewhere
[00:41] <ferris> adroidman, you will need to change your bios to allow the computer to boot from usb...
[00:41] <adroidman> I did but the dual boot menu keeps overriding it
[00:41] <ferris> if the pc is old... it may not be able to do it unless you get firmware updates...
[00:41] <wawowe3> somebody from the offtopic please fuck me
[00:41] <terminhell> adroidman: smash the F12 key during boot?
[00:42] <Kornkage4> elijah which song
[00:42] <KRomo> im trying to install a tar.bz file but it has no ./configure...whst to do?
[00:42] <bazhang> elijah, how does itunes relate to ubuntu support
[00:42] <Kornkage4> ./bootstrap KRomo?
[00:42] <KRomo> ?
[00:42] <adroidman> my computer is brand new... I just got it this year
[00:42] <ferris> esc, end, or an F-key should get you into the boot screen so that you can choose which device to boot from.... you should be able to change the boot order to start with the usb...
[00:43] <terminhell> sometimes usb's wont boot everytime, it may require a few attempts
[00:43] <adroidman> I have it set to pick usb
[00:43] <ferris> and  be sure to press F10 when leaving the bios
[00:43] <terminhell> how did you image the usb?
[00:44] <elijah> Kornkage4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYoXd-c9drQ
[00:44] <elijah> bazhang: How does it not?
[00:44] <adroidman> I used the pen drive
[00:44] <bazhang> elijah, dont past that here
[00:45] <elijah> bazhang: K, I won't, my bad
[00:45] <adroidman> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:45] <ki7rw> hmm, i can't seem to get quassel to auto-id me with nickserv
[00:45] <bazhang> elijah, itunes has no support on Ubuntu, and this is not the chat channel, try a mac channel, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:45] <bazhang> !alis | elijah use this to search
[00:46] <terminhell> id suggest songbird...but oh ya, theyre traitors >.<
[00:46] <adroidman> my boot order is this "USB CD/DVD ROM DRIVE      USB Diskette on Key/USB Hard Disk     Internal CD/DVD ROM Drive   Notebook Hard Drive
[00:46] <nandersson> "sudo apt-get install monodevelop" screwed up my system really good leaving a lot of packages in an inconsistent state
[00:46] <terminhell> so you gave your computer mono eh? gross
[00:47] <nandersson> libart, libglade, libgnome-vfs2.0-cil, monodevelop, libnunit2.5-cil etcetera...
[00:47] <elijah> bazhang: nice tip, thanks!
[00:48] <ki7rw> i guess i should use one id since this crappy software never works right after an update - i'm trying to log in to EFnet and Freenode with different id's
[00:48] <ferris> adroidman,  disable everything except the usb options
[00:48] <adroidman> how do I disable them?
[00:49] <ferris> adroidman, by going into bios and changing the options
[00:49] <myth1riik>
[00:50] <ferris> adroidman,  should be in the same place the boot order is located
[00:50] <gdoteof> i have had the same ubuntu install for a while, it hasn't been reset in over 3 days
[00:51] <gdoteof> suddenly today id on't have root anymore
[00:51] <adroidman> I can only move them up and down I dont see an option to disable it anywhere
[00:51] <gdoteof> or more precisely my user name is not longer in the sudoers file
[00:51] <gdoteof> and there is no one else in /home
[00:51] <gdoteof> i know how to fix it byu booting into single user mode, but i want to know.. wtf?
[00:51] <terminhell> weird indeed
[00:54] <randomusername> the permissions of python libraries in 12.04 broken
[00:54] <home> hey gdote... can you adduser a new user ?
[00:55] <randomusername> users can't reach installed packages without being root
[00:55] <l000l> how can i connect to ubuntu channel ?
[00:55] <l000l> ?
[00:56] <mynotes> hi guys
[00:56] <genii-around> l000l: You're connected to the ubuntu channel right now.
[00:57] <home> welcome
[00:57] <Hayate> Hy mynotes
[00:57] <mynotes> how to reset settings on ubuntu 10.04.4 lts
[00:57] <l000l> ?
[00:58] <l000l> can anyone help me in an ubuntu server hardware compability
[00:58] <Hayate> L000l, what you mean
[00:58] <Quaydon> randomusername, Which packages?
[00:58] <randomusername> any packages installed
[00:58] <randomusername> that I install
[00:59] <randomusername> if I do sudo easy_install package, sudo python setup.py install or sudo pip install package
[00:59] <randomusername> I must run python as root
[00:59] <mynotes> @hayarte any idea?
[00:59] <randomusername> I can't install packages without root
[00:59] <terminhell> built from source?
[01:00] <sileni> guys
[01:00] <randomusername> built from source or downloaded using a package manager
[01:00] <sileni> I'm running Ubuntu 11.04, the global shortcuts on tomboy do not work
[01:00] <terminhell> but generally you cant install packagges without root previleges because of what the package manager needs to do
[01:00] <detly> I'm looking for a serial console program in 11.10 - moserial crashes on pretty much any operation, so is there something else?
[01:00] <sileni> I see there is a bug report open for this, is there any update in the community?
[01:00] <randomusername> but generally you're supposed to be able to read packages as a user, right?
[01:00] <Hayate> Mynotes, i think you can go to ubuntu.com, and look about hardware compatibility documentation
[01:01] <terminhell> what do you mean read?
[01:01] <escott> randomusername, what are the permissions on the py and pyc files?
[01:02] <tjayh913> I have a bit of a problem here: I wanted to change my username for my main admin account, so I found instructions working from root where I was successful with my secondary account, but for some reason now when I attempt to log into my main account, it redirects me back the login page
[01:02] <randomusername> when I install a package the permissions become
[01:02] <randomusername> drwx--S---. 5 root   jondoe  4096 jun  8 02:53 urllib3-1.3-py2.7.egg
[01:02] <randomusername> actually not jondoe but rather staff
[01:02] <randomusername> but I tried to fix it by changing the group of the folder
[01:03] <home> tjayh, whered you point your shell?
[01:04] <tjayh913> home, I atleast intended to type "usermd -m -d /home/[username] [username]" (with username being my new one that I switched in previous command)
[01:04] <detly> oh, wait, I wasn't searching on package descriptions in synaptic, oops
[01:05] <devxdev> tjayh just login as root create a new admin then do all the stuff from gui, then delete that temp admin account
[01:06] <boldfilter1> kjdsf
[01:06] <tjayh913> devxdev, I could still use my admin password to make my second account an admin, now I would just rather recover my first account
[01:07] <tjayh913> is there a way to get a log of what I actually typed in root to error check?
[01:07] <terminhell> bash.history
[01:07] <devxdev> sudo ..^
[01:07] <escott> randomusername, isnt the egg just the installer? i mean what are the permissions on the files unpacked after running easy_install
[01:08] <tjayh913> will see if I can still access root
[01:08] <randomusername> hmm that's probably correct
[01:08] <guest2> Hey every time I login, I get a connection failed. I don't think it's Thunderbird, because it connects fine, and I don't think it's Empathy because I uninstalled it. What do y'all think it could be?
[01:08] <randomusername> lemme check
[01:09] <terminhell> guest2: "online accounts" ?
[01:09] <guest2> I also tried renaming the empathy user config directories
[01:09] <guest2> Nah I don't use that
[01:09] <tjayh913> well I got into my primary account in the terminal
[01:09] <randomusername> yeah I think I broke it when I changed the permissions in an attempt to fix it
[01:09] <terminhell> what does tty1 show?
[01:09] <eagle_eye> !terminal
[01:10] <samisheikh> hi
[01:10] <qwebirc57362> is in normal that ALL my running processes are "sleeping" even if using cpu like firefox is now?
[01:10] <samisheikh> i installed xbmc on a nettop that i just bought, but i am having issues getting the dolby digital working with my receiver
[01:10] <samisheikh> i have put the following settings under audio
[01:10] <samisheikh> http://pastebin.com/PSS7eRwL
[01:10] <terminhell> qwebirc57362: yes, most will not be active
[01:10] <samisheikh> My O/S is ubuntu 10.04
[01:11] <randomusername> escott, nah it installs it into the .egg
[01:12] <randomusername> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/urllib3-1.3-py2.7.egg/urllib3
[01:12] <tjayh913> was "bash.history" supposed to give me the log of what I typed, as in root it told me that the command was not found
[01:12] <devxdev> dont do sudo that was a mistake
[01:12] <guest2> Any other ideas why I would be getting that? Or is there some kind of log I can check after login to see?
[01:12] <escott> randomusername, well those permissions are obviously not going to work for most users. they cant even cd into that folder
[01:12] <guest2> Would dmesg show it?
[01:12] <escott> randomusername, you probably want 755 on that folder
[01:12] <randomusername> and python apitest.py gives me "No module named urllib3" while sudo python apitest.py works
[01:13] <randomusername> yeah but should it be that by default? :3
[01:13] <devxdev> @tjay913 just tail ~/bash_history
[01:13] <Zeelot> so I installed supermeatboy and changed the resolution to something unsupported... how can I fix this? purging the package and reinstalling did not fix it
[01:13] <devxdev> ~/.bash_history******
[01:14] <randomusername> i'll alias updatepython to sudo chmod -R 755 /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/
[01:14] <randomusername> good enough
[01:14] <randomusername> thansk escott
[01:14] <terminhell> Zeelot:  from xorg.conf?
[01:14] <Zeelot> terminhell: what do you mean?
[01:15] <terminhell> ............
[01:15] <LoOoD> Is preseed/early_command ran before or after /target is mounted?
[01:15] <tjayh913> hmm I typed the command correctly
[01:15] <terminhell> Zeelot: look in /etc/X11/ and dig around till you find monitor
[01:16] <devxdev> what does it tell you?
[01:17] <Zeelot> terminhell: till I find monitor?
[01:17] <HoNgOuRu> its not working, only 1 sound card is playing sound... could it be muted somewhere? where should I check ?
[01:17] <terminhell> Zeelot: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:18] <tjayh913> it shows that I did the exact same command as I intended to do
[01:18] <terminhell> oh wait, ubuntu doesnt use X anymore does it?
[01:18] <Zeelot> terminhell: this is a game that I run in fullscreen mode, is the answer really going to be in an X11 config file?
[01:18] <terminhell> what was the question again?
[01:18] <Zeelot> I have /etc/X11/xorg.conf but nothing in there seems useful
[01:19] <RecursiveBeast> hey guys, trying to install 12.04 server amd64 on a intel atom d2700 but the install disk tells me "This kernel requires x86_64, only detected i686 cpu"
[01:19] <Zeelot> the game starts at a resolution I cannot see (after setting it)
[01:19] <Zeelot> I don't know how to reset it
[01:19] <terminhell> hopefully the game has a config file
[01:19] <terminhell> or reinstall the game
[01:19] <Zeelot> I'm not sure where to find it
[01:19] <zykotick9> RecursiveBeast: yes your atom is only 32bit
[01:19] <RecursiveBeast> thing is... according to Intel... that CPU is 64 bit
[01:19] <Zeelot> and reinstalling didn't work
[01:19] <zykotick9> RecursiveBeast: s/yes/guess/
[01:20] <terminhell> oh k... id start by looking in /etc/game
[01:20] <guest2> Anyone else have an idea as to why I get a "connection failed" message at login? Any logs I can check?
[01:20] <sileni> Tomboy's global shortcuts don't work in ubuntu 11.04, anyone else experienced this issue before?
[01:20] <guest2> gnome3 logs or x11 log or something?
[01:20] <terminhell> or in /home/user/.local or /username/.gamefolder
[01:20] <terminhell> guest2: yes, there are log readers
[01:20] <docmur> Is there a virtualization program that I can install on the ubuntu will will act like vShpere and allow me to create virtual machines onto of ubuntu accessible remotely?
[01:21] <nina666> hi... im suffering from freezing my whole laptop... im gonna bang my head against the wall seriously!! i've already posted in the forum in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998667 but no responses what so ever untill now... i really need some help regarding this matter as my laptop goes crazy every few minutes...
[01:21] <guest2> Can you give me the name of one of them terminhell ?
[01:21] <terminhell> log viewer
[01:21] <guest2> no I need the log itself, not a program to view logs
[01:21] <terminhell> dljsnvjfn
[01:21] <terminhell> that makes no sense
[01:22] <guest2> And I'm not sure where to even really look, since I'm not sure what program is throwing that error
[01:22] <RecursiveBeast> zykotick9:  check the wikipedia page for Intel Atom, it has the d2700 listed as 64 bit. I'm pretty sure that's my proc
[01:22] <guest2> I always read logs with less anyway haha
[01:22] <guest2> I'm spartan like that
[01:22] <home> i dont want a root acct.. how do i change user id so that i dont need to gksudo nautilus and do my file maintenance?
[01:22] <guest2> What do you mean file maintenance, home?
[01:22] <nerdistmonk> I just updated to pulseaudio 2.0 on xubuntu 12.04 and now i have no sound, can someone help me?
[01:22] <zykotick9> RecursiveBeast: ? i know my atom is 64bit... you'll have to verify your own.  if you can get into gnu/linux currently "cat /proc/cpuinfo" should give model info
[01:22] <home> i dont know how to whisper back.. how do i?
[01:22] <terminhell> no root account? use windo..hmm good luck
[01:22] <devxdev> he does not want to type gksu ..
[01:22] <home> ^ yes
[01:23] <terminhell> we're laughing AT you home
[01:23] <purencool> I have just install a ssh key on my git server the its  permission are set a -rw-r--r-- 1 root root rsa.pub is this a good idea?
[01:23] <guest2> I would sudo the program you use for maintenance and not nautilus. My guess is that a root nautilus will launch root processes
[01:23] <guest2> i.e. be unsafe
[01:23] <home> i dont care if i brick the box... reinstalls are nothing
[01:23] <escott> purencool, the pub is public. so yes thats safe
[01:23] <terminhell> then just always log in as root...
[01:23] <purencool> thanks
[01:24] <terminhell> but that wont solve everything
[01:24] <guest2> Speaking of root, why is it that I have to login as root to do testparm for samba?
[01:25] <guest2> If I sudo testparm > smb.conf, it fails, but if I su into root and do it, it works fine
[01:25] <terminhell> not sure
[01:25] <terminhell> su and sudo are slightly diff
[01:25] <guest2> Yea
[01:25] <terminhell> have you tried sudo -s
[01:25] <guest2> But smb.conf is owned by root. Seems like if sudo is making my effective userid root's, then it should work fie
[01:25] <guest2> Just like every other time sudo does things for you
[01:25] <nina666> wow.. i didnt get any responses ...
[01:25] <guest2> This is the only case I've seen it fail
[01:25] <nerdistmonk> I just updated to pulseaudio 2.0 on xubuntu 12.04 x64 and now i have no sound, can anyone help?
[01:25] <RecursiveBeast> zykotick9: have no OS installed at the moment, but i'll confirm shortly (downloading 12.04 x86 currently and i'll try it out)
[01:26] <genii-around> guest2: The problemmatic part is the > filenaqme
[01:26] <terminhell> nina666: on what?
[01:26] <nina666> this was my Q:
[01:26] <nina666> hi... im suffering from freezing my whole laptop... im gonna bang my head against the wall seriously!! i've already posted in the forum in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998667 but no responses what so ever untill now... i really need some help regarding this matter as my laptop goes crazy every few minutes...
[01:26] <genii-around> guest2: sudo testparm | sudo tee -a smb.conf
[01:26] <guest2> genii-around: how so
[01:26] <guest2> oh
[01:26] <terminhell> can you nutshell the probplem/when it happens?
[01:27] <escott> guest2, sudo runs the first command as root but the > is in your current bash shell. thats why it fails. command | sudo tee -a and in many cases you might not need to say sudo command
[01:27] <guest2> ahhh. neat
[01:27] <guest2> Thanks :D
[01:27] <HoNgOuRu> can anybody help? I have 2 soundcards but only can hear one. when switching cards per application with pavucontrol I get no sound althought sound level bars move
[01:29] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: seems other have had this problem http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/325554-28-atom-d2700-cedar-trail  it seems to be the mother board that disables it
[01:29] <nina666> terminhell, u talking to me? :)
[01:29] <terminhell> nina666: yes
[01:29] <nerdistmonk> I just updated to pulseaudio 2.0 on xubuntu 12.04 and ive lost sound, can anybody help me?
[01:29] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: thanks! I thought something was weird. i'll follow up on that link
[01:30] <nina666> terminhell, i both happens when im working with my laptop as well as sometimes when its idle...
[01:30] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: I didn't see any way to correct it maybe later they will provide a bios flash update?
[01:30] <terminhell> nina666: what "both" happens?
[01:30] <nina666> terminhell, but not fully idle actually, i was downlowding something :D
[01:31] <nina666> terminhell, means on both working and idle status
[01:31] <terminhell> nina666: your speaking in broken sentences
[01:32] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: seems to be the case.... i'll have to return this board... i just bought it :(
[01:32] <terminhell> nina666: i dont understand what your asking
[01:33] <nina666> terminhell, ok sry about that. my laptop freezes from time to time. no matter what im doing, it happens. that the actual situation
[01:33] <nina666> and i've put more details on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998667
[01:34] <kion> nina666 have you done Ctrl + Alt + F1 when that happens?
[01:34] <sacarlson> HoNgOuRu: do you have speakers pluged into your other card?
[01:34] <allquixotic_> How do I change my Ubuntu Software Center account password?
[01:34] <terminhell> sounds like a kernel panic
[01:35] <terminhell> in which ctrl alt f1 wont work either
[01:35] <nerdistmonk> anyone?
[01:35] <sacarlson> allquixotic_: that would be your admin account  you would have to add yourself to the sudo group
[01:35] <nina666> kion, the problem is, NOTHING works on it... i cant use any keys... cant get to the terminal as well..
[01:35] <terminhell> nerdistmonk: not sure man, try reinstalling it?
[01:35] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: No, I mean the account I use to authenticate with the store in order to make financial transactions in the USC.
[01:36] <sacarlson> allquixotic_: or admin group depending on the version of ubuntu you run
[01:36] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: I already know how to change my root password ;-)
[01:36] <nerdistmonk> i just installed it?
[01:36] <nina666> terminhell, exactly
[01:36] <nerdistmonk> the daemon is on, my soundcard is recognized and unmuted
[01:36] <terminhell> are you  in the audio group
[01:36] <nerdistmonk> my sound was working perfect before i upgraded
[01:36] <terminhell> nina666: have you updated recently?
[01:36] <sacarlson> allquixotic_: I'm not sure about that one,  maybe the ubuntuone account?
[01:37] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: I think you're right; it probably IS the Ubuntu One account! But I'll have to find out how to change that password somehow :)
[01:37] <nina666> terminhell, yes, i think i've done that at least 3 times yesterday to make sure i got everything! :D
[01:37] <HoNgOuRu> sacarlson, I have speakers in the one Im hearing now, and headphones on the other one, and they are not playing any sound. both worked fine 2 days ago
[01:37] <terminhell> nina666: ram upgrades eh? could be issues there
[01:38] <allquixotic_> ah...
[01:38] <terminhell> if you didnt get the right kind, or of different sizes or w/e
[01:38] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: For the future, I found it. https://login.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <allquixotic_> sacarlson: I can change my password there :D
[01:38] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson:  after reading the entire thread, it seems like it's not a mainboard issue, but rather that Intel is telling the mainboard manufacturors to disable 64bit support b/c Intel hasn't made any 64bit drivers for the atom chip... am i getting that right?
[01:38] <allquixotic_> affects launchpad (if you use Ubuntu SSO to sign in to launchpad); affects ubuntu one; affects the ubuntu software center
[01:38] <nina666> terminhell, i had this problem even before the RAM, then i thought maybe my memory is insufficient, so upgraded and it got worse.. but the point is, i had it before also...
[01:38] <sacarlson> HoNgOuRu: might try swap speaker for headphone, not lickly but sometimes I forget I turned down the volume on the wire of my headphones or someone else has played with it
[01:39] <nina666> terminhell, and i ran the memtest, seemed to be fine..
[01:39] <terminhell> nina666: not sure, honestly, it could be so many different factors. From overheating to kernel blacklisting issues
[01:40] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: ya but they must disable it by something in the bios flash, so at some point they will probly update the flash to enable it
[01:40] <nina666> terminhell, thanks for trying anyways :( im so stuck..
[01:40] <samisheikh> hi can anyone help me with xbmc and audio issues?
[01:40] <HoNgOuRu> sacarlson, 2 hours ago I had  this same problem and I uninstalled pulse and alsa and reinstalled them. after that soundcards switched now headphones are not working and speakers do work. 2 hours ago it was the other way around.
[01:40] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: or maybe a jumper setting?
[01:41] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson:  4GB of RAM should be sufficient for this little IDS/IPS i'm setting up (for my house, yea it's overkill but i'm paranoid). Thanks for finding that link for me!!!!
[01:41] <terminhell> nina666: is your hdd in good health? what does disk manager show in the SMART data?
[01:42] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: didn't see anything in the mainboard manual about that but i can check
[01:42] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: with all those people looking at the problem and not finding a solution it doesn't sound lickly you will find one soon
[01:43] <nina666> terminhell, mmm thats a good question... let me run smart ctl
[01:43] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: I would check the manufacture of the moutherboard for a bios flash update, if none then live with 32bit is ok if you have 4gb mem or less
[01:43] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: agreed. nothing in the jumper section of the manual about a 64bit switch
[01:44] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: I have a 64bit cpu and still run 32bit system
[01:44] <RecursiveBeast> sacarlson: i'll do that. btw the board tops out at 4GB anyway (it's mini-itx)
[01:45] <sacarlson> RecursiveBeast: oh then almost no performance diff will be acheaved with 64bit
[01:45] <escott> sacarlson, not entirely true. 64bit does have more registers which could help some workloads
[01:46] <HoNgOuRu> sacarlson,  fixed... don't know how but the "default" sound card was muted at startup, that explains why the other card wasnt working before uninstalling pulse
[01:46] <HoNgOuRu> sacarlson,  thank u.
[01:46] <crash_ovv> hey.. i just bought a lenovo g 570 nd when i ubuntu in it .. no audio drivers are found .. what should i do..?
[01:46] <sacarlson> escott: RecursiveBeast: this maybe true if your do gene splicing or ???
[01:47] <samisheikh> anybody experienced with xbmc here?
[01:47] <crash_ovv> its got a conexant chipset
[01:47] <ecr> Hi. I just installed 12.04 in my professor
[01:47] <ecr> 's netbook through Windows. How can I access the Windows filesystem through Ubuntu?
[01:48] <RecursiveBeast> escott: RecursiveBeast: i'll probably refrain from doing gene splicing on my little atom box.... however IPv6 addresses will be looked at and those won't fit into one 32 bit register... just a thought
[01:48] <Eugene_Lee> hello
[01:48] <crash_ovv> hiii
[01:48] <Guest10989> ubuntu contact me on the phone if u return
[01:48] <nina666> terminhell, ok i just installed it, it says passed. but should i perform a test?
[01:48] <sacarlson> escott: I can say that I did run 64bit on this same box with ubuntu 8.04 and had no noticable improvment in performance but many more problems at that time for 64bit support
[01:49] <terminhell> nina666: cant hurt
[01:50] <crash_ovv> hey
[01:51] <nina666> terminhell, ok thats done with no errors...
[01:51] <crash_ovv> hey.. i just bought a lenovo g 570 nd when i ubuntu in it .. no audio drivers are found .. what should i do..?
[01:51] <crash_ovv> ???
[01:51] <nina666> terminhell, and btw, when i run htop, my load average is above 1, with really minimal usage... right now i only have xchat, opera, and a terminal!
[01:52] <sacarlson> crash_ovv: I thought conexant made modem chips,  you sure that's the sound chip?
[01:52] <crash_ovv> yes...
[01:52] <terminhell> nina666: what kernel are you using?
[01:53] <sacarlson> crash_ovv: well there sound card must suck as much as there modems,  took me days just to get one of there modem chips to work
[01:53] <nina666> terminhell, uname -a gives: Linux Vaio 3.2.0-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 21 16:52:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:53] <ecr> I installed 12.04 in a netbook with Wubi. Is there a way to access the Windows filesystem through Ubuntu?
[01:53] <terminhell> nina666: ya that was a buggy kernel for me too
[01:53] <escott> ecr, if you dont see it its probably been blocked for safety reasons
[01:53] <Malsasa> Hello, i wanna create an app in C, which every Ctrl or Alt or F1-F12 pressed, that app can take it as an input/command and do something. I am using Ubuntu. An example for that is nano application. How can I do it?
[01:53] <Malsasa> I am using Geany as IDE.
[01:54] <ecr> escott: Blocked by what? How do I unblock it?
[01:54] <kion> ecr yes
[01:54] <kion> ecr no problem
[01:54] <nina666> terminhell, sht... what should i do then?
[01:54] <terminhell> wait for ubuntu to catch up
[01:54] <crash_ovv> i kno.. but i cant change the sound chip can i?
[01:54] <crash_ovv> :'(
[01:54] <garry2080> is there a lst kernel available in the ubuntu repos (sorry i am so lazy to check) ?
[01:54] <nina666> terminhell, and force reset my laptop 3 times per hour? :D
[01:54] <escott> ecr, it may be (probably is) unsafe to access the ntfs containing the wubi loopback
[01:55] <terminhell> nina666: switch distros?
[01:55] <sacarlson> Malsasa: as I always do create a print line in your code and see what codes come out of the keyboard when you hit them
[01:55] <ecr> escott: Is there a way I can do this?
[01:55] <escott> ecr, i dont think you understand. its unsafe. its not allowed.
[01:55] <nina666> terminhell, which distro is better now u think?
[01:55] <Malsasa> sacarlson: oooh simply like that? Oh thank you....
[01:56] <garry2080> hello, anyone here ?
[01:56] <ecr> escott: Can I do the opposite, access the Ubuntu file system through Windows?
[01:56] <Malsasa> sacarlson: can you give me a simple code?
[01:56] <Zeelot> terminhell: thanks, found the file I needed
[01:56] <terminhell> nina666: well without starting a war, the closest to ubuntu now would be Mint, but their packages are even further behind, worth a shot, otherwise try fedora 17
[01:56] <terminhell> Zeelot: cool, where was it?
[01:56] <Zeelot> .local/share/SuperMeatBoy/UserData
[01:56] <nina666> terminhell, thanks alot, helped alot :)
[01:56] <escott> if you install the ext4 drivers for windows and can figure out how to do loopback mounts in windows
[01:56] <sacarlson> Malsasa: there are docs with tables that also show them but looking at it with code you see the real thing,  print in hex might be better
[01:57] <terminhell> Zeelot: cool beans man, did ya fix it"?
[01:57] <crash_ovv> sacarlson so what driver should i use?
[01:57] <neothecat> hello.  i just booted into the 12.04 live disk, and none of the login/password choices i searched for online worked (blank login/password, ubuntu/blank, ubuntu/ubuntu).  what is the correct login/password?  thank you.
[01:57] <Zeelot> yeah just deleted the file and it worked
[01:57] <kion> terminhell Take a look as penguy
[01:57] <Malsasa> sacarlson: where the docs?
[01:57] <kion> terminhell it is a nice distro based on ubuntu
[01:57] <sacarlson> crash_ovv: I didn't see a pastebinit of your lshw so I have no info to work with
[01:58] <terminhell> kion: ya ive heard of it, i Arch myself, but ya, #archlinux isn't the neediest of places...
[01:59] <sacarlson> Malsasa: http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/scancodes-1.html
[01:59] <ecr> escott: Can you give me a link?
[01:59] <escott> ecr, no i dont know it
[01:59] <sacarlson> Malsasa: when you look at the output of your code you will see that there are key on key off
[01:59] <Malsasa> sacarlson: can I do it with sscanf?
[01:59] <ecr> escott: OK. Thanks for your help.
[02:00] <Malsasa> sacarlson: your link GREAT!
[02:00] <Malsasa> Thank you.
[02:00] <genii-around> ecr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86586/accessing-windows-partition-inside-wubi
[02:00] <genii-around> Hm, too late
[02:01] <sacarlson> Malsasa: dam you want me to write the code for you?  here http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2010/05/grab-raw-keyboard-input-from-event-device-node-devinputevent/
[02:01] <crash_ovv> sacarlson i m currently running on windows so how should i get lshw?
[02:02] <Malsasa> sacarlson: oh no, just the command to doit, whether scanf or what. Just that.
[02:02] <sacarlson> crash_ovv: boot a live cd and copy the results of lshw to a usb flash would be one method
[02:03] <iwan> hooi
[02:03] <crash_ovv> ok...
[02:03] <sacarlson> Malsasa: well look at the code I gave you and find out
[02:03] <Malsasa> sacarlson: okay
[02:03] <Malsasa> I just want to create a simple app but has a simple interface like nano.
[02:04] <sacarlson> Malsasa: cool,  don't give up.  I'm sure you can do it
[02:04] <Malsasa> sacarlson: thank you. Your answer was so kind...
[02:05] <haylo> Malsasa, i would think that is coded in C
[02:05] <yan> ni hao
[02:06] <haylo> im all about writing light wieght and unix friendly C apps. its awesome Malsasa
[02:06] <yan> zhelimianyouenma
[02:07] <sacarlson> Malsasa  I think haylo: is correct, you might just look at the nano code and just modify that to your needs
[02:07] <Malsasa> haylo: thank you.... can you give me a simple code for accepting Ctrl+O as save command, in example?
[02:07] <Malsasa> sacarlson: wah, thank you...
[02:07] <haylo> yeah id try to modify nano for that
[02:07] <switch10_> what was gnome-open replaced with?
[02:07] <haylo> there ar egreat you tube tutorials on coding in C Malsasa
[02:08] <sacarlson> haylo: but I think Malsasa is in the  learning mode and you have to have a project to learn something.  you can't just read others code to learn some things
[02:08] <tjayh913> hmm, fixed broken ownership on home/newusername but I still can't log into newusername
[02:09] <Malsasa> sacarlson: waah, thank you. Okay, i wanna do it.
[02:09] <home> thats awefully strange...
[02:09] <Malsasa> haylo: thank you for inform me...
[02:09] <yan> no thank
[02:09] <sacarlson> tjayh913: forget that password?
[02:09] <yan> no
[02:10] <yan> i remeber
[02:10] <bazhang> !cn | yan
[02:11] <tjayh913> sacarlson, no, I can even login through tty, just when I try to log in through GUI it takes me to a black screen for a moment before returning to the login screen again
[02:12] <sacarlson> tjayh913: look in the /var/log/systlog file to find out why
[02:12] <sacarlson> syslog
[02:12] <guest2> A semester of Chinese with probably one of the best foreign language teachers I've ever had, and I can't read any of that haha
[02:13] <sacarlson> tjayh913: like maybe the user no longer had permisions in his own home directory?
[02:13] <phunyguy> tjayh913: Sounds like corrupt profile (not sure if that was said before). /var/log/syslog should help, but it will probably boil down to a messed up .config or .gconf
[02:14] <junkyeard> where am i??
[02:14] <phunyguy> in hell.
[02:15] <sacarlson> phunyguy if in tjayh913 case he can't even tty or ssh in then I'm not sure it's .gconf  but like you said syslog should make it clear
[02:15] <Malsasa> haylo and sacarlson: how to do search with terminal when i wanna find a string "Ctrl+" in a folder containing many .c files?
[02:15] <phunyguy> sacarlson: he said he CAN, not CANT
[02:15] <tjayh913> sacarlson, no I can tty, I have a window logged into it now
[02:16] <phunyguy> and normally with bad permissions, it tells you it cant get to /home/$user
[02:16] <phunyguy> in this case, something crashes and it logs out
[02:16] <traci> ubuntu
[02:16] <yan> how to get it
[02:17] <phunyguy> tjayh913: rename your .config and .gconf2
[02:17] <phunyguy> and try to login
[02:17] <yan> why i can,t get it
[02:17] <escott> Malsasa, grep
[02:18] <Malsasa> escott: can you give me an example?
[02:18] <traci> i had a background image switcher installed but reinstalled ubuntu and now i cannot remember what the name was... i installed it from synaptec or ubuntu software center... unfortunately it has been a long day... anyhow... can someone recommend a background switcher that will switch images from a specified folder?
[02:18] <escott> Malsasa, grep pattern filename
[02:18] <sacarlson> phunyguy: oh CAN ya then you were probly correct
[02:18] <trism> Malsasa: if you are looking at the nano code, you'll probably be interested in terminal_init and do_input in nano.c (not really on topic to the channel though)
[02:18] <Malsasa> escott: okay okay. Where can i get tutorial for grep?
[02:19] <traci> found it
[02:19] <traci> thanks
[02:19] <tjayh913> I am debating whether this account is even worth recovering or just rebuilding
[02:19] <traci> desktop nova
[02:19] <Malsasa> trism: you know i need it :D thank you.
[02:19] <escott> Malsasa, all over the place. any standard unix command line tutorial will include it
[02:20] <nerdistmonk> what happens when you set the sample rate in pulseaudio higher than what the sound is designed to do?
[02:20] <phunyguy> tjayh913: best way to go about that I think, rename the /home/$user folder and relogin.  cant remember if that failed or not
[02:20] <phunyguy> then copy your stuff it it works
[02:20] <phunyguy> if it*
[02:20] <Malsasa> escott: thanks, but can you give me a link to a very subjective tutorial? :)
[02:20] <phunyguy> i do remember there may have been a setting to auto-create folders on new login, but that may have been KDE
[02:21] <airlynx> How do I clear my DNS cache?  I've updated my DNS records to my new domain over 6 hours ago and the site pulls up correctly on my cellphone, but not in Ubuntu (12.04)
[02:21] <phunyguy> airlynx: that cache may reside on your router or ISP
[02:21] <mouse> I'm trying to install a package but I keep getting a dependency error.  It says it needs ia32-libs but the version of ia32-libs I have installed is the most recent.  Is there something else I need to do to setup ia32-libs so the system can make use of it?
[02:22] <phunyguy> mouse: is it coming from a 3rd party repo?
[02:22] <iliri> ?
[02:22] <airlynx> phunyguy: I was afraid of that
[02:22] <mouse> phunyguy The package I'm trying to install is coming from the humble bundle.
[02:24] <HelloWorld123> I'm having trouble with my nVidia drivers since the upgrade to Pangolin.  Should I use this to remove the old drivers: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ?   How does ppa-purge work?
[02:24] <phunyguy> mouse what is the humble bundle?
[02:24] <tjayh913> so what were these two files that I am supposed to try renaming, IRC crashed on me
[02:24] <iliri> help i there
[02:24] <phunyguy> and i feel that issue may reside with that
[02:24] <phunyguy> if it is 3rd party
[02:24] <iliri> is acound
[02:24] <xangua> !ppa-purge | HelloWorld123
[02:24] <iliri> is shells
[02:24] <HelloWorld123> tx xangua
[02:25] <HelloWorld123> Xangua, so it looks like that's right: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[02:25] <phunyguy> tjayh913: .config and .gconf2 - they are folders
[02:25] <phunyguy> or you can just do your whole home folder
[02:25] <phunyguy> /home/$user
[02:25] <phunyguy> i am tempted to test it myself
[02:25] <HelloWorld123> Xangua: looks like no.  It said Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: ubuntu-x-swat x-updates ... or maybe I've already gotten it purged.
[02:25] <HelloWorld123> I've been round and round on this
[02:26] <phunyguy> but you have to do the whole folder from root account
[02:26] <phunyguy> so "sudo passwd root", change the password
[02:26] <phunyguy> then login as root at the shell
[02:26] <xangua> HelloWorld123: if by purged you mean removed the ppa line, that will not remove the packages that installed
[02:26] <tjayh913> so try renaming the home folder to my username again?
[02:26] <Phiscribe> ppa's are evil
[02:26] <mouse> phunyguy www.humblebundle.com  It's a really neat setup and a good way to try indie games on linux.  It's not really a repo though.
[02:27] <phunyguy> tjayh913: no just make it different than what it is
[02:27] <HelloWorld123> oic.  Tx Xangua.
[02:27] <HelloWorld123> I'm following http://www.hecticgeek.com/2011/10/how-to-install-latest-proprietary-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[02:27] <phunyguy> then copy your stuff to the newly created profile.  once you are satisfied, delete the old one
[02:28] <HelloWorld123> How do I remove the installed package, then?
[02:28] <phunyguy> if your profile is /home/tjayh913, then make it /home/tjayh913_
[02:28] <phunyguy> etc.
[02:28] <xangua> HelloWorld123: add the ppa line again and run ppa-purge
[02:29] <phunyguy> sacarlson: does it make your apt-get perform differently?
[02:29] <phunyguy> sorry meant that for mouse maybe?
[02:29] <sacarlson> tjayh913  ya as phunyguy says I've had similar instance and that has worked for me
[02:29] <HelloWorld123> use this to add the ppa line again?  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[02:29] <phunyguy> nope i got the person right
[02:29]  * iliri bye bye all
[02:29]  * iliri bye bye all
[02:30] <tjayh913> I renamed it to a third version of my username and made no difference
[02:30] <tjayh913> and appears to have correct ownership this time
[02:30] <phunyguy> tjayh913: have you done this already?
[02:30]  * iliri bye bye all
[02:31] <phunyguy> iliri: wtf are you doing
[02:31] <bazhang> iliri, stop that
[02:31] <sacarlson> tjayh913: since I didn't know what file in the account was causing the problem I just moved the home dir and create a new one and copied the files into it
[02:31] <phunyguy> leavd.. lol
[02:31] <phunyguy> leave*
[02:31] <Dotman14> Devon!!!!
[02:32] <sacarlson> phunyguy he did it already?  maybe he copied the problem back into the dir?
[02:32] <HelloWorld123> btw, I'm currently running the desktop in 640x480, so I can pretty much view just one window at a time, and barely that.
[02:33] <phunyguy> sacarlson: maybe
[02:34] <Darkenvy> help! I need MySQL up on Ubuntu-Jaunty fast. The Jaunty repos are broken: http://paste2.org/p/2048338
[02:34] <sacarlson> phunyguy tjayh913 make sure you don't copy the files back into the new /home/dir untill after you verify the account is working
[02:34] <Darkenvy> my Jaunty sources.list : http://paste2.org/p/2048339
[02:34] <phunyguy> yes tjayh913, i meant to only copy important things like music and documents
[02:34] <avoider> Hey guys, I need some help! i tried to install Ubuntu on a older spare computer Dell Dimention B110 and i get a Kernel Error any ideas?
[02:34] <bazhang> Darkenvy, upgrade to a supported version. jaunty is eol
[02:34] <Darkenvy> cant. VPN that I have no choice with
[02:35] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Darkenvy
[02:35] <bazhang> Darkenvy, its Not supported here.
[02:35] <avoider> Says it requires an x86-64 cpu but only dectected an i686 cpu  any ideas?
[02:35] <phunyguy> Darkenvy: EOL means EOL.  No support.
[02:35] <smw> Darkenvy, Jaunty EOLed october 2010
[02:35] <Darkenvy> Okay, pretend I have ubuntu 11. What repo has MySQL in it?
[02:35] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: I think that's a end of life version of ubuntu
[02:35] <tjayh913> I only really created the account last night, so I am just going to keep it as a terminal online admin account
[02:35] <phunyguy> avoider, download 32 bit
[02:35] <bazhang> Darkenvy, no. stop asking for support here
[02:35] <tjayh913> and will now instead work on getting new account to equivalent permissions
[02:35] <Dotman14> Anyone help me with how to install applications on Ubuntu Linux?
[02:36] <Phiscribe> avoider, is it a 32 bit or 64 bit cpu, try the 32 bit if you havent already
[02:36] <xangua> Darkenvy: or upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[02:36] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: they all have mysql in them but they will be compiled on different libs
[02:36] <avoider> phunyguy: Thank you very much.
[02:36] <bazhang> !software | Dotman14
[02:36] <avoider> phunyguy: yes i only downloaded 64bit
[02:36] <phunyguy> avoider, that cpu doesnt support 64 bit
[02:36] <HelloWorld123> Since that other article didn't cover purging my old nVidia drivers, I'm switching over to following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[02:36] <iliri> !Equivalents
[02:37] <iliri> !Packages
[02:37] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: you can just upgrade and import your mysql files into a new version
[02:37] <bazhang> iliri, /msg ubottu
[02:37] <iliri> !Adept,
[02:37] <smw> Darkenvy, http://www.warpconduit.net/2011/07/31/apt-repository-for-old-ubuntu-releases/
[02:37] <avoider> phunyguy: Okay ill download the correct image thanks again bro.
[02:37] <phunyguy> np
[02:37] <Darkenvy> last time I upgraded my system crashed every 2 hours
[02:37] <tq|Memphis> how many of you using ubuntu as virtual os?
[02:37] <Darkenvy> and I was surprisingly not able to get help here after several visits
[02:37] <phunyguy> Darkenvy: sorry
[02:38] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: ya I hate to upgrade too, I still run 10.04 because of it
[02:38] <iliri> !Adept, "apt-cache search
[02:38] <Dotman14> Thanks ubottu
[02:38] <Darkenvy> lol :P
[02:38] <Darkenvy> I JUST updated my home computer from 10.04 to 12.04
[02:38] <bazhang> iliri, /msg ubottu    stop that
[02:38] <HelloWorld123> what's the ls command to query your videa card?
[02:38] <johnu> you guys help with backtrack also?
[02:38] <phunyguy> someone kick iliri
[02:38] <smw> Darkenvy, check out old releases
[02:38] <Phiscribe> distro upgrades stress me out, thats why i gave it up, just clear install anymore
[02:38] <smw> Darkenvy, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/
[02:38] <bazhang> johnu no. #backtrack-linux
[02:38] <Phiscribe> clean i meant
[02:38] <johnu> thanks
[02:39] <smw> Darkenvy, it is all still there ;-)
[02:39] <johnu> wtf @ banned
[02:39] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: if you never want to upgrade then you at least need to make a recoverable backup
[02:39] <Darkenvy> smw, im not sure I know how to use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/ by itself
[02:39] <blackshirt> Phiscribe, i think ubuntu not follow debian policy for upgrade...you would get stuck'maybe
[02:40] <HelloWorld123> lspci
[02:40] <smw> Darkenvy, convert security.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[02:40] <smw> Darkenvy, do that for every url
[02:40] <smw> x.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[02:40] <johnhambl> any idea why im banned from backtrack-linux channel? ive never been there in my life lol
[02:40] <airlynx> whew, got it, after checking 'host' in a terminal it listed the correct host there, went to Firefox and cleared all my browsing history/files/cookies/and everything else it finally came up correctly
[02:41] <phillip69> every time that i go to wicd and try to connect wireless
[02:41] <OerHeks> johnhambl, we don't know, ask in #freenode
[02:41] <smw> Darkenvy, however, I warn you that you need to upgrade
[02:42] <smw> Darkenvy, you are no longer getting security updates
[02:42] <Darkenvy> how bad would it be for Jaunty-to-12.04?
[02:42] <Darkenvy> server might I add. This is for a gaming server
[02:42] <smw> Darkenvy, and by upgrade... I mean reinstall. I do not think I would want to upgrade that much.
[02:42] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: ya I was hacked with old version of oscomerce because there was a big whole that bots look for
[02:43] <Darkenvy> I cannot reinstall. this is a VPN with a pre-install option.
[02:43] <smw> Darkenvy, I assume you mean VPS
[02:43] <smw> Darkenvy, you can't reinstall?
[02:43] <Darkenvy> yes VPS. I also have a VPN so I miscommunitated :P
[02:43] <Darkenvy> no I cannot. if I reinstall it will be jaunty again
[02:44] <smw> that you have a horrible VPS service
[02:44] <Darkenvy> 123systems.net
[02:44] <smw> then*
[02:44] <smw> Darkenvy, they don't have a newer one to install?
[02:44] <Darkenvy> no. they have OLDER versions to choose from
[02:45] <Darkenvy> how bad would it be to upgrade this many versions? it IS a fresh install by the way
[02:45] <smw> Darkenvy, It would be pretty bad
[02:45] <smw> you could use Hardy (8.04)
[02:45] <smw> Hardy is not EOL yet
[02:46] <Darkenvy> which is jaunty?
[02:46] <smw> Darkenvy, 9.04
[02:46] <HelloWorld123> Well I dunno why I was so sure that I had nVidia ... lspci says that I have Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated
[02:46] <yeats> Darkenvy: jaunty - karmic - lucid would get you to a newer LTS at least
[02:46] <donvito2> ubuntu desktop or server is better?
[02:47] <Darkenvy> which is the shortest jump upgrade? I JUST finished my file transfers :S
[02:47] <smw> donvito2, depends what you plan to do
[02:47] <Darkenvy> and how can I selectivly upgrade?
[02:47] <smw> donvito2, if you have to ask, I would assume desktop
[02:47] <OerHeks> donvito, those are 2 different usage
[02:47] <blackshirt> Donvito2, it's depend your need
[02:47] <donvito2> im planing to make poker machine slots
[02:47] <yeats> Darkenvy: both jaunty and karmic are eol, so even with old-releases the upgrade might be dicey
[02:48] <Darkenvy> yikes
[02:48] <smw> Darkenvy, 8.04 is not EOL yet. I think it is your best option
[02:48] <jagginess> !avi
[02:48] <Darkenvy> a downgrade?
[02:48] <OerHeks> !upgrade | Darkenvy
[02:48] <yeats> Darkenvy: I would seriously complain to your service provider - it's not like Ubuntu ISOs cost anything
[02:48] <smw> Darkenvy, an upgrade to a supported system :-P
[02:49] <smw> yeats, no, but making a VPS image does
[02:49] <smw> Darkenvy, I would certainly complain though
[02:49] <yeats> meh
[02:49] <smw> god only knows how they stay in business
[02:49] <OerHeks> Darkenvy, it is not an ubuntu issue that your VPS images are out of date.
[02:49]  * iliri bye bye all
[02:49] <Darkenvy> okay thanks everyone for your help
[02:50] <smw> Darkenvy, you know amazon gives out free servers, right? :-P
[02:50] <awpti> He's trying to run a minecraft server.
[02:50] <awpti> Their free offering won't work, IIRC.
[02:50] <|Trend|> q: is SSD trim enabled by default in ubuntu desktop ?
[02:50] <smw> awpti, micros can't handle minecraft?
[02:50] <HelloWorld123> The Intel driver documentation says that most linux distro's come with an Intel driver, and that I should use the driver included with my distro.    It was done automagically when I originally installed Natty.  The upgrade to Ocelot broke it.  I did a fresh install and Ocelot turned out okay.  The upgrade to Pangolin broke it again.  I'm hoping to fix the driver instead of doing a fresh install.
[02:53] <Darkenvy> omg, I swear, there was NOT a 10.04 option on the purchase screen. it was 9.04 was the latest option. 10.04 is still supported?
[02:53] <Darkenvy> oh wait there is 11.04
[02:54] <HelloWorld123> I should be totally qualified to do this, since I'm a java developer at a Mac shop.  And if I can, then I won't have to do a full install or restore my backups.  How hard could it be?
[02:54] <Darkenvy> (it was not my stupidity I swear lol) thnks guys
[02:54] <yeats> Darkenvy: I would go with 10.04 - supported through 2015
[02:55] <HelloWorld123> If I had done a fresh install, I would have been done already.
[02:56] <HelloWorld123> I just really think its better to educate myself.
[02:56] <xangua> yeats: Darkenvy only the server, the desktop untill april 2013
[02:56] <Darkenvy> crap, already went with 11.04, however I only choose to be with them for a year or so
[02:56] <Zephyrusuo> hey yeats when does the next lts come out
[02:57] <yeats> !lts
[02:57] <dyingloop> Hello i recently purchased an usb wifi adapter for my laptop. I received a CD with linux drivers for the adapter it's a zipped file. I have no idea how to install the drivers.
[02:57] <Darkenvy> lts for 11.04 server?
[02:57] <Zephyrusuo> that didnt help sorry
[02:57] <Darkenvy> *support duration?
[02:57] <Zephyrusuo> how long is 10.04 supported on desktop?
[02:57] <yeats> Zephyrusuo: 14.04
[02:57] <Zephyrusuo> thank you
[02:57] <Darkenvy> (whats with the .04 thing anyways?)
[02:58] <Darkenvy> !.04
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> ok sound great
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> fourth mounth of year
[02:58] <yeats> Zephyrusuo: please note that the Ubuntu website has plenty of information like that ;-)
[02:58] <Phiscribe> whats wrong with 12.04 again Darkenvy?
[02:58] <Darkenvy> !!! ooooh
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> yah but im lazy
[02:58] <Darkenvy> lol ooops triggered the bot
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> and you helped that guy
[02:58] <Zephyrusuo> so..
[02:59] <Zephyrusuo> well you just sold me to go with 10.04 as graphics drivers in 12.04 dont work with card
[02:59] <yeats> Zephyrusuo: that doesn't encourage me, I'm afraid
[02:59] <Phiscribe> checking the restricted drivers, via ubunut, sometimes can get a wireless card to work
[02:59] <Phiscribe> first thing to try
[02:59] <Phiscribe> or even a wired nic
[03:00] <HelloWorld123> I'm able to get the desktop by using ctrl-alt-f1, and running startx from the command line.  Does this look like the line I need?  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[03:01] <HelloWorld123> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[03:01] <sacarlson> dyingloop: did you plug it in?  it might already work
[03:01] <dyingloop> It's plugged in
[03:02] <GoodOldJacob> ciigsima
[03:02] <sacarlson> dyingloop: ok does it work?
[03:02] <dyingloop> Nope
[03:02] <GoodOldJacob> Whoops sorry, wrong channel =P
[03:02] <dyingloop> I don't see any SSIDs
[03:02] <sacarlson> dyingloop: why not?  can the device be seen?  lsusb;
[03:02] <xxx> hello room
[03:02] <dyingloop> oh wait
[03:03] <dyingloop> I'll be really pissed
[03:03] <HelloWorld123> Is "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" going to log me out of this chat?
[03:03] <dyingloop> it's working
[03:03] <sacarlson> dyingloop: ya it helps to try it
[03:03] <dyingloop> Boy this is pretty weird
[03:03] <Darkenvy> "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0"
[03:03] <dyingloop> my built-in wireless card had hit or miss drivers by realtek
[03:04] <dyingloop> and it wouldn't work for the life of me
[03:04] <dyingloop> so i ordered a separate usb adapter!
[03:04] <dyingloop> now
[03:04] <dyingloop> after plugging it in
[03:04] <dyingloop> both work!
[03:04] <HelloWorld123> sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found
[03:04] <jagginess> gnome-tweak-tool doesnt seem to change my default multimediaplayer.. which package or command changes this , anyone?
[03:04] <dyingloop> goodness it's magic scarlson
[03:04] <HelloWorld123> I didn't expect that
[03:05] <jagginess> HelloWorld123, no, it's lightdm (from 11.10+)
[03:05] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: I guess the new version changed the name?
[03:05] <dyingloop> no wait..it was a glitch
[03:06] <dyingloop> just the new one works
[03:06] <dyingloop> :(
[03:06] <HelloWorld123> actually, I think I started the desktop with startx ... is that completely different than gdm?
[03:06] <sacarlson> dyingloop: no need for two they will just conflict, disable the old one in bios
[03:06] <HelloWorld123> These google sites are often a release or two behind
[03:06] <jagginess> HelloWorld123, what version ubuntu is it
[03:06] <dyingloop> yeah i thought both were workig, but it's only one
[03:07] <dyingloop> apparently once i plug in my usb adapter
[03:07] <HelloWorld123> I've upgraded to Pangolin from Ocelot, and the upgrade trashed my video driver
[03:07] <dyingloop> both the adapters work
[03:07] <dyingloop> strange
[03:07] <jagginess> dyingloop, yah, we we heard you.. so what..
[03:07] <dyingloop> sorry just excited
[03:07] <HelloWorld123> There, I see it jagginess: lightdm ... I'm running in 640x480 so I don't alwatys see everything
[03:07] <jagginess> and my computer turns on.
[03:08] <dyingloop> heh indeed
[03:08] <dyingloop> thanks!
[03:08] <jagginess> HelloWorld123, you definitely have e-did (wikipedia e-did), failing.. sounds like a driver issue (or a poor cable can cause this)
[03:09] <jagginess> ,/var/log/Xorg.0.log would say if e-did failed
[03:09] <jagginess> ok now.. if only if i can get .avi to play on this..
[03:11] <jgalt> I just experienced a kernel panic.  machine dropped to text mode and appears to have locked up.  any way I can save off anything for later analysis of a crash dump?
[03:11] <jagginess> (actually .avi works :)
[03:11] <jagginess> lol
[03:11] <BarkingFish> Morning guys :)  Quick question for you: I don't want pulseaudio downloaded on here, and everytime I update my system, it gets put back on. Is there any way to manually block pulseaudio from being downloaded during updates?
[03:11] <jagginess> dam i'm good
[03:12] <gry> BarkingFish: What distribution?
[03:12] <BarkingFish> gry - Kubuntu 12.04
[03:12] <BarkingFish> I am only asking here cause #kubuntu is utterly dead this time of night :)
[03:12] <BarkingFish> i'd be pretty sure if it works on here, it will work on Kubuntu too :)
[03:13] <DocPlatypus> I've done my research on this and pretty much just want to confirm what I've found. have any viruses, worms, etc of any significant scale ever been found "in the wild" that attack Ubuntu or any other GNU/Linux system?
[03:13] <BarkingFish> The only reason I don't want pulseaudio on here is that it messes my mixer up in KDE, so that I don't have control over everything, and it messes my sound up entirely.
[03:14] <BarkingFish> I need to see every available channel in my mixer, for remixing audio, controlling mic and capture, etc
[03:14] <DocPlatypus> KDE is still aRts based isn't it?
[03:14] <HelloWorld123> jagginess: thanks for that.  I did not know that logfile was there.  It seems that I'm done messing with this tonight.  What do the numbers in that logfile mean?  I have stuff at 119 talking about nVidia failing, and then stuff at 120 talking about Intel loading okay, and I have Intel.  What does the 119 & 120 indicate?
[03:15] <BarkingFish> no, we don't use arts or artsd - but by knocking out pulseaudio, I can go alsa only
[03:15] <jagginess> BarkingFish, there's plugins for pulseaudio, (there's alsa plugin for pulseaudio, it may already be there but not enabled)
[03:15] <jongbergs> Hi, I was experimenting with ubuntu packages thru commandline. What command allows you to query the Description of a specific package?
[03:15] <BarkingFish> jagginess: the plugins are no help, which is why I simply take pulseaudio off, rather than fiddle with things which don't actually help :)
[03:16] <BarkingFish> it would be 100* easier if i could simply stop it coming on in the first place
[03:16] <ihashacks> jongbergs: apt-cache show packagename
[03:16] <jagginess> BarkingFish, maybe you should check if you're using a ~/.asoundrc file.. or if you have 2 soundcards, simply blacklist the one you don't use..
[03:17] <BarkingFish> jagginess: I have one sound card, and I don't have a .asoundrc file either.
[03:17] <jongbergs> ihashacks: But I only want the Description..nothing else..
[03:17] <xangua> BarkingFish: do you have the kubuntu-metapackage installed¿ if you uninstall pulse i guess the metapackage is the one that installs it again
[03:17] <trism> jongbergs: dpkg-query -Wf '${Description}\n' package_name;
[03:17] <BarkingFish> You're leading me round the houses, to doors I've already knocked on, jagginess :)
[03:18] <Valiant54616> Can NortonGhost (or similar) clone harddrives with ubuntu?
[03:18] <BarkingFish> and xangua - no I don't have that package installed
[03:18] <jongbergs> trism: great, i'll try that out..
[03:18] <jagginess> BarkingFish, you dont know how to configure it.. you should get help on it..
[03:18] <xangua> kubuntu-destkop* metapackage i mean BarkingFish
[03:18] <BarkingFish> and no, I don't have that either.
[03:18] <BarkingFish> I don't dl metapackages at all, I simply dl individual stuff
[03:19] <BarkingFish> I've been able to block specific packages before, back in Kubuntu 11.04, I just need to know how to do it again - I did it with Firefox to stop it upgrading.
[03:20] <Darkenvy> I would be glad to announce I am now running ubuntu server 10.04. How can I now install mysql?
[03:21] <jongbergs> trism: so "Description" is one of the formats
[03:21] <Darkenvy> "apt-get install mysql mysql-server" returns packages not found
[03:21] <Madpilot> ubottu, lamp | Darkenvy
[03:22] <Darkenvy> thanks
[03:22] <Madpilot> Darkenvy, np, I haven't set up a server in several versions of Ubuntu but that page should still be pretty comprehensive
[03:23] <trism> jongbergs: it's one of the fields you can display in the format string
[03:23] <BarkingFish> so - without the "you don't know how to configure it" stuff, and the like - can anyone simply answer my question please? How do I block a package from downloading during updates?
[03:23] <BarkingFish> I'm not angry or anything, simply tired - it's 4.25am, and I want to resolve this if possible, before I go to bed :)
[03:25] <jgalt> BarkingFish : I know your pain, I've been there.  let me do some looking and see if I might find some help.  it's only 8:25pm here
[03:26] <jongbergs> trism: the command gets the entire subscription. But how about getting its simple description like when you do: dpkg -l grub-common
[03:26] <jongbergs> trism: GRand Unified Bootloader (common files)
[03:27] <jrib> BarkingFish: you want to prevent updates to a certain package you already have installed?
[03:27] <BarkingFish> jgalt: thank you. I've been on linux long enough to know when regardless of configuring something, it's about as useful as a chocolate sunhat :)
[03:27] <BarkingFish> jrib: no, I want to prevent the package from downloading during updates to my system once I've removed it
[03:27] <genii-around> !pinning
[03:27] <jrib> BarkingFish: how did you remove it?
[03:28] <BarkingFish> took off the .pulse-cookie and the other .pulse stuff from my home folder, killall pulseaudio, apt-get remove pulseadio
[03:28] <jgalt> yes pinning is what I was thinking of thank you
[03:28] <jrib> BarkingFish: that should be sufficient
[03:28] <jongbergs> trism: I'm thinking of doing the same command and just grep the first line. It would be better if there is cleaner way to do this..
[03:28] <BarkingFish> jrib: it's not though. Whenever I update kde, pulseaudio comes back
[03:29] <jrib> BarkingFish: pastebin what you are running exactly and full output
[03:29] <BarkingFish> i don't know if I can, I'm cli only at the moment
[03:29] <jrib> !pastebin | BarkingFish
[03:30] <BarkingFish> what do you want to see? just the commands I'm running and the output I get from them, jrib?
[03:30] <jrib> BarkingFish: yes
[03:30] <BarkingFish> ok, one moment
[03:30] <ihashacks> jongbergs: apt-cache show grub | grep -m1 ^Description
[03:30] <Shdwdrgn> I'm back tonight trying to resolve an IPv6 issue.  Upgraded from natty to oneiric last night, server can now only communicate through ipv6 to other servers in the same /64.  Server receives all IPv6 packets though.  Info from a working server (also running oneiric) in the same zone: http://pastebin.com/iyp7HBF9  Info from the server I am having troubles with: http://pastebin.com/3QrrFd02
[03:31] <trism> jongbergs: the short description is just the first line of the Description field in the control file, so I don't know that there is a better way
[03:33] <BarkingFish> I can't do that right now, for some reason gpm won't copy the buffer for me
[03:33] <BarkingFish> I will try and get that done in the morning :)
[03:33] <jrib> BarkingFish: you can just redirect the output to pastebinit
[03:34] <jongbergs> ihashacks: This works, however you still need to operate the result to get the actual "Description"
[03:34] <BarkingFish> can I? I didn't know that :P
[03:34] <BarkingFish> myxzptlk! Now I have to go remove it all over again :)
[03:35] <chargersfan420> installed fglrx-updates, now can't get past login screen.  it tries to change my resolution, fails, and returns to the login screen.  can anyone help?
[03:36] <jongbergs> trism: I think this one is working: dpkg-query -Wf '${Description}\n' grub-common | head -n1
[03:36] <trism> jongbergs: yep, that's how I would do it
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> 'The Bash Fu is Strongwith this one...'
[03:37] <jongbergs> trism, ihashacks thanks guys, it really helped..
[03:37] <BarkingFish> jrib: How do I do that please? I tried running all the commands on the same line and adding > pastebinit on the end, and it created a text file called pastebinit :P
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> BarkingFish:  use |
[03:37] <BarkingFish> i did
[03:37] <jrib> BarkingFish: you can now run the pastebinit command on that file
[03:37] <lek_> dpkg-query -Wf '${Description}\n' grub-common | head -n1dpkg-query -Wf '${Description}\n' grub-common | head -n1
[03:38] <BarkingFish> it didn't complete though, it aborted the removal
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> echo 'foo' | pastebinit
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> the arror bracket ppipes to a file. the | goes to a command that takes the input
[03:38] <BarkingFish> I ran: rm -rf /home/thor/.pulse* | killall pulseaudio | apt-get remove pulseaudio > pastebinit
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> you piped the output to a file.. not a command
[03:39] <BarkingFish> :(
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> bigcommand string | pastebinit
[03:39] <BarkingFish> ok
[03:39] <BarkingFish> and how do I get apt-get remove to not need me to confirm it?
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> and im not sur why you aree using the | in the othjer places
[03:40] <jrib> BarkingFish: what I care about is exactly what you are typing and what the full output is when pulseaudio is trying to install again
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> that command line seems weird to me
[03:40] <jrib> BarkingFish: presumably you don't currently have pulseaudio installed
[03:40] <BarkingFish> Dr_Willis: I was breaking it up into individual commands, like I would running them on separate lines
[03:40] <BarkingFish> jrib: I do at the moment, I need it there to remove it and show you what it's doing :)
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> dont use | for that. ;)   heh..
[03:41] <wylde_> BarkingFish: then you'd use ; <--- a semicolon
[03:41] <BarkingFish> aha
[03:41] <BarkingFish> right - one moment please :)
[03:41] <Dr_Willis>  you can even run a bash command line that.   cd foo ; ls file ; cat bar
[03:43] <BarkingFish> i'm just sitting for a url to come back now
[03:44] <clifear> when I try to sudo start module-init-tools I get module-init-tools stop/waiting
[03:44] <clifear> any fix?
[03:44] <clifear> I've searched but nothing has worked thus far
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> clifear:  isent it sudo service whatever start
[03:44]  * clifear tried that too, same error
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> no idea whaggt module-init-tools even is..
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> why are you even needing to do thi?
[03:45] <clifear> its for lm-sensors / modprobe
[03:45] <wylde_> check the syslog and dmesg for clues?
[03:45] <BarkingFish> pastebinned - didn't copy the rm -rf command, or the killall pulseaudio, but did show you the removal
[03:45] <BarkingFish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1029788
[03:45] <jrib> BarkingFish: it's my bed time now.  Anyway, if there isn't anything immediately obvious in your pastebin as to why pulseaudio wants to be reinstalled without you explicitly requesting it, my next guess would be that you have a package that "recommends" pulseaudio.  So find it and determine if you really want it (aptitude's search capabilities would make this easy).
[03:46] <BarkingFish> mine too, it's 4.45 am here
[03:46] <BarkingFish> I will pin it, so I can stop it from doing anything in the future
[03:46] <BarkingFish> Screw what the system recommends, if anything recommends it, I'll remove that too :)
[03:46] <BarkingFish> :P
[03:47] <trism> clifear: module-init-tools is just a script, it just modprobes the modules in /etc/modules then exits, so that's the status you get
[03:47] <MooreJohn> Hi guy, I want to know the way of removing apache2 that was installed from source code, I mean, I dont used apt-get install, compiled and installed in /usr/local/
[03:47] <BarkingFish> anyhow, good night/morning now (it's daylight) - I'm off.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> MooreJohn:  'sudo make uninstall'  fromthe source dir.. is common
[03:48] <clifear> thanks trism that makes sense, but now when I run sensors I don't get the proper output
[03:48] <BarkingFish> thanks for the help jrib, wylde_, Dr_Willis and jgalt :)
[03:48] <BarkingFish> see ya
[03:49] <MooreJohn> Hi Dr_Willis, I am new to linux ubutu, what you mean "from the source dir"
[03:49] <wylde_> clifear: did you 'sudo sensors-detect'?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> MooreJohn:  where you compiled it at..  same dir you did the make and other colmmands in
[03:49] <clifear> wylde_yes, I answered yes to all the correct questions and double-checked
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> should we be asking why you decided to compile apache from source?
[03:50] <clifear> the output file that it writes as well
[03:50] <MooreJohn> I uncompress the source code in "Desktop" and I made "./configure", "make" and "make install"
[03:50] <wylde_> clifear: odd... I've not ever had any issues with any of those.
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> MooreJohn:  right.. and theres a ' make uninstall  '  that code commonly uses to remove stuff
[03:51] <Madpilot> MooreJohn, you do know Apache is available in Ubuntu repos, right?
[03:51] <minniepayne> hi. on my computer, i have Win7 and a linux distro installed. i'm planning on installing another linux os. How do i tell the installer to reuse the exisiting swap partition?
[03:51] <MooreJohn> ok I will try
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> if you just did a make install, then you dident run it as root. so it shouldent be in /opt/ ;)
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  normally in the partition setup  tool you just point swap to the swap partition.
[03:53] <clifear> any other ideas?
[03:53] <minniepayne> ok. great, Dr_Willis thanks
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  if you share swap. you dont want to be using he hibernate/suspend functions.
[03:53] <roasted> friends hello@
[03:53] <roasted> !
[03:53] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: want do you mean "you don'twant to be using hibernate / suspend functions"? why not?
[03:53] <MooreJohn> Hi Dr_Willis, I got "No rule to make target uninstall. stop"
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  you suspend os#1 it saves stuff to swap.. os #2 then boots.. and uses the swap...
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> swap IS used to hibernate/suspend
[03:54] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but isn't swap wiped clean (like RAM) after powering off?
[03:54] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: after computer powers off?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> MooreJohn:  then they did not include the method to remove it.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  One  of those Hibernate/sispends saves ram to swap then powers off.. then uses swap to restore the memory.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> I never can rember  which one does it. ;)
[03:55] <ihashacks> swap isn't used for suspend but IS for hibernate
[03:55] <wildint> anyone know which channel the release teams hang out in, using wget on a server 64 bit link is getting me an i386 iso
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Seems they change the terms in  the differnet OS's ever so often.
[03:55] <ihashacks> I don't even have a swap partition on my laptop and suspend just fine. Hibernate is NOT possible however.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> used to be 'suspend to ram' or 'suspend to disk'
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> i dontuse either. too many issues
[03:56] <minniepayne> ok, so does Ubuntu use "hibernate" feature?
[03:56] <MooreJohn> hi Madpilot yep I know, but I follow the way of showing in the book of sitepoint
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  if your swap is big enough
[03:56] <evildaemon> When I download and unpack archives, they're executables won't execute. I've set the sticky bit. My system acts as though the files don't exist.
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  sticky bit? What filesystem are the binaries on?  You just need to make them executable
[03:57] <ihashacks> minniepayne: "hibernate" is disabled by default in Ubuntu 12.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation-in-12-04
[03:57] <Madpilot> ubottu, lamp | MooreJohn better and Ubuntu-specific method for getting Apache and such running:
[03:58] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ihashacks. ok. Let's say i have 2 linux OSes sharing same swap partition. If I boot into LinuxDistro1 and turn on hibernate, when will swap be made free for use for other OS?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  swap will getoverwritten so that other os will fail to restore its hibernated state
[03:58] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: The bit that you set on a *nix filesystem to allow executables to run. They're on my hard disk.
[03:58] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ihashacks i mean "free for _LinuxDistro2_"
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  stick bit is not the same as the executable bit
[03:59] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Oh, well. Still, the executable bit is set.
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  are they on a NTFS/Vfat: or a ext2/3/4  filesystem
[03:59] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Ext4, I think.
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  and tghe exact command you are using to launch them is?
[03:59] <ihashacks> minniepayne: you will have issues. Some distros check during boot to see if resume data is found in the swap, if it is, it tries to use it. So if your Distro1 hibernates to RAM, then you boot Distro2, it will see the hibernate data and try to boot it up with it.
[03:59] <evildaemon> ./
[04:00] <chargersfan420> installed fglrx-updates and i am now in hell.  how do i go back?
[04:00] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but i still don't get it. if i hibernate while using LinuxDistro1, the next time I press the power button, I "wake up" from hibernation from Distro1. So I wouldn't even have to face the problem of booting into Distro2 with  a swap that is in hibernation.
[04:00] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: I'm just running them as binaries.
[04:00] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: But the filesystem acts like they don't exist.
[04:00] <wildint> minniepayne, that may work, I have never tried
[04:00] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Not that they don't have permission, but that they don't exist.
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  if the 2 distros try to sahre the same hibernated data.. it will be problematic
[04:00] <wylde_> minniepayne: unless you fail to recover from a hibernate and have to hard boot ;)
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  You are getting the case RiGht?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> evildaemon:  using tab to complete file names/
[04:01] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Using tab completion.
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> check outout of 'file thefileyouwanttorun'
[04:02] <minniepayne> wildint: Dr_Willis ihashacks. Isn't wylde_ correct in saying that the only time my computer will have to erase "hibernated swap" is if i have to hard boot?
[04:02] <wildint> minniepayne, theoretically yes - care to experiment in practice and let us know
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  short answer.. share ing swap = DONT use hibernate in either OS.  unless you are just rarely using one of them. :)
[04:03] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: It's an LSB executable.
[04:03] <minniepayne> rarely using one of what?
[04:03] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ^
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> hibernate os1, boot os2 - you just messed up hibernate file for os1
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> i dont se emuch point in having 2 linuxs installed.. what 2 are you using?
[04:03] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Nevermind, magically fixed itself.
[04:03] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but how can you boot into OS2 after you've just hibernated from OS1? Doesn't hibernate mean that the only next action is to wake up from hibernation?
[04:04] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: backtrack and linux
[04:04] <evildaemon> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  No.. the kenrel boots and sees/restiores the hibernated file
[04:04] <minniepayne> oops. Dr_Willis i meant backtrack and ubuntu
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> grub -: kernel -: restores
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> dont see much need for backtrack. :) dont really see why you would need to hibernate backtrack either.
[04:05] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: i'm still not understanding. if you were to hibernate your Ubuntu OS now.... what are the next options you will have when you press the hardware "power" button?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  you still get the grub menu.. you select ubuntu.. it sees the hibernated file and restores it'
[04:05] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: i won't need to hibernate backtrack. but i may need to hibernate ubuntu. then again, i rarely use hibernate
[04:05] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ok ok. i understand now.
[04:06] <JustMe_> join
[04:06] <JustMe_> #jakarta
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine hibernate is disalbed in both those OS's ;)
[04:06] <jagginess> anyone here used annotation on videos?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> and how often are you even going to be using Backtrack  :)
[04:07] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: will use backtrack very very rarely. maybe once in 4 monts
[04:07] <genii-around> !info advene
[04:08] <genii-around> Hm
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  i dont see the point in installing it then. You could set a grub item up to boot the backtrack ISO file if you needed
[04:08] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: boot ISO file? ISO file on hard drive?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  yes..
[04:08] <minniepayne> what's the benefits to booting from ISO file?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> i keep iso files in my /boot/ partition for emergancy and otehr special cases
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> i can boot  my ubuntu iso and do a clean install or othe rtasks. with no cd needed
[04:09] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ok. but what is the advantages to booting from ISO file over installing on Disk?  Is it for saving hard drive space?
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> i can set up other special disrtos/isos and test them
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> If you need a live cd setup.. booting iso works just as well.
[04:10] <genii-around> !info advene quantal
[04:10] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: i also don't need to use a CD. I used unetbootin to create bootable/installable backtrack on USB
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> i dont even need a usb. :)
[04:10] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but why use a livecd setup?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> dont even need to use unetbootin
[04:10] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but isn't booting from iso slower than booting from hard drive?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  the iso is just as fast getting read from the hd.
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> it is a live cd however.
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> with the same benifitss/limitations
[04:11] <minniepayne> so why do Linux distros make the default way of using themselves a "harddrive install" and not "boot from ISO"?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  thats not the default for them all.
[04:12] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: ok. so "boot from ISO" has the same limitations as "live cd".
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> boot live  cd/iso - for repairs, or installing, or other special cases
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> some disrtos like puppy, and tinycorelinux , can boot from cd. and save changes to a external drive by default. ;)
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> a 'frugal' setup is the term for those often used
[04:13] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: sorry for not understanding. I just don't get the payoffs for booting from ISO, as opposed to installing the linux distro on hard drive.
[04:13] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: it has limitations, but i don't see the benefits
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> minniepayne:  same benifits as you get from booting the  cd directly, or a live usb
[04:14] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: hte only benefit i can think of from booting from Live USB in saving hard drive space.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> I can boot my ISO and reinstall ubuntu in perhaps 5 min.
[04:14] <Nythillie> Hello!  Quick question!  If I want to theme the unity bar (12.04) I look for GTK3 themes, right?
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> theres a great manu Live disrtos out there for differnt tasks
[04:14] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: another benefit of booting from LiveCD/USB is if you don't want to bother creating another partition.
[04:15] <minniepayne> Dr_Willis: but i don't mind creating a 10GB partition for a Linux distro that i'll use rarely.
[04:15] <xangua> Nythillie: that depends, some themes support unity, they usually tell it in gnome-look.org at least
[04:15] <Nythillie> Gnome-look is still the place go for themes then?
[04:15] <Nythillie> :)
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> themeing has gotten even more confuseing in gnome3/shell/unity. :)
[04:16] <hailsatan> sup everybody
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> i just play with the settilgs till i get somthing i like. then often i cant recreate  the look on a differnt pc
[04:17] <Nythillie> Ugh.  I like Unity.  I just want more obvious controll over it.
[04:17] <CoJaBo> There was a really nice sequence of options, I *think* using ffmpeg, to convert a video to a series of PNGs or JPEGs or something (decimating the framerate in the process); but I can't seem to find it- any ideas?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> CoJaBo:  think i saw that in the faq for either ffmpeg, or mencoder
[04:19] <bndk> ,
[04:19] <CoJaBo> Yeh, I think I did too, but its not there now that I actually need to do that :/
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> joy -  the whole factory just went down.. every alarm in the plant just went off.. air compressors went down. - im going to be  busy the rest of the night... bye all..
[04:20] <hailsatan> sup everybody
[04:21] <trism> CoJaBo: I usually use: mplayer -vo jpeg
[04:23] <CoJaBo> trism: Can that be used to decimate the framerate tho too?
[04:23] <CoJaBo> 60fps is a bit much lol..
[04:24] <rkhshm> I'm having a weird problem.. I"m running an intel mobo (i7 1st gen) with 11.04 on it. Off late i see that the machine does not boot at all..
[04:24] <rkhshm> I mean i dont get to even the BIOS ,also what i noticed is when the machine is ON for a long time (3-4 days) with heavy load on it and when i shut it down i get this http://imagebin.org/215602 and the machine hangs.
[04:24] <jarray52> I have one of those dual graphics card laptops. I'm using 10.04 LTS. My laptop always uses the lower resolution graphics card. Is there a way to get it to use the higher res graphics card?
[04:24] <minniepayne> why can't my google chrome connect to lifehacker.com
[04:24] <rkhshm> i initially suspected that RAM can be an issue so checked it thoroughly but it was not the issue... Now i'm wondering if my mobo is dying.
[04:24] <rkhshm> any ideas guys.. Please help as this is my server
[04:27] <trism> CoJaBo: maybe -fps?
[04:27] <rkhshm> any opinions?
[04:28] <jarray52> rkhshm: Your server doesn't boot?
[04:28] <rkhshm> jarray52: correct
[04:28] <rkhshm> jarray52: it wont even take me to BIOS
[04:28] <sacarlson> rkhshm: if it fails to come up in bios I would say it hardware
[04:28] <jarray52> rkhshm: Does it ever boot?
[04:29] <rkhshm> sacarlson: well that was my hunch as well.. But strangely i just switched it off and turned it back on a few times, and now its back ONLINE
[04:29] <rkhshm> jarray52: ^^
[04:29] <olskolirc> !konsole
[04:29] <sacarlson> rkhshm: I powered my system down the other day that failed to boot after 4 attepts,  I shut it down to fix it the next day.   the next day it worked perfect, now has run for days
[04:30] <jarray52> both of you have the same issue?
[04:30] <rkhshm> sacarlson: right pretty much like what I"m facing.. but when i shut it down i'm not sure if it will boot again
[04:30] <trism> CoJaBo: no, I guess not, there probably is but I don't know what it is
[04:30] <sacarlson> rkhshm: I also checked the SMART data from disks and all looked good
[04:30] <rkhshm> my mobo is intel WX58P
[04:31] <jarray52> sacarlson rkhshm: Does the RAM identified in top match the RAM in the system?
[04:31] <sacarlson> rkhshm: in my case I assume it's a heat problem as I opened the case to prepare to work on it and now it works
[04:31] <rkhshm> jarray52: what is top match ?
[04:32] <jarray52> jarray52: If 4gb, then 4*1024*1024*1024?
[04:32] <rkhshm> sacarlson: my SMART stats are also good there is nothing to get concerned about.
[04:32] <rkhshm> jarray52: 2x2G + 1x1G
[04:33] <ki4ro> What could be causing my disc drive to get extremely busy and my entire system to hang?
[04:33] <jarray52> rkhshm: You're telling me that you have 5gb?
[04:33] <rkhshm> jarray52: yes
[04:33] <sacarlson> ki4ro: look with an application called top to find out
[04:34] <ki4ro> sacarlson: That's just it...I can't get into anything...pointer freezes too
[04:34] <jarray52> rkhshm: When you run top, what number does it say for Mem:?
[04:34] <rkhshm> jarray52: top or free -m ?
[04:35] <ki4ro> sacarlson: Unless top has a history option?
[04:35] <sacarlson> ki4ro: <ctrl><alt>f2 might get you to a console to check
[04:35] <jarray52> ki4ro: You can also use lsof.
[04:35] <rkhshm> jarray52: http://pastie.org/4048271
[04:37] <Ormie> does init 3 work in ubuntu?
[04:38] <sacarlson> Ormie: I think it works but does the same as some of the others
[04:38] <rkhshm> jarray52: any ideas?
[04:39] <mobilenoob11> Evening. I need some assistance.
[04:39] <jarray52> rkhshm: Which country do you live in?
[04:39] <rkhshm> jarray52: inida
[04:39] <rkhshm> india
[04:39] <Ormie> sacarlson, typing "init 3" in terminal will switch the default desktop environment to console. I got this from OpenSuse. You still think it'll work?
[04:39] <shanky_ty> ormie it works in ubuntu
[04:40] <Ormie> ok
[04:40] <jarray52> rkhshm: Is it possible your boot problems are due to heat?
[04:40] <sacarlson> Ormie: I think it's just init 1 for single usr or no gui and init 2+ for gui? http://theos.in/news/ubuntu-linux-shutdown-the-x-server/
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  ubuntu dosent use runlevels like that  normally
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[04:40] <Ormie> ?
[04:41] <shanky_ty> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[04:41] <jarray52> rkhshm: That would be my guess.
[04:41] <Ormie> anyways, I'll try on VM
[04:41] <Ormie> thanks
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> use the recovery/rescue options in grub, or the text option to not startup the login manager
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> or stop the servies you dont need
[04:41] <rkhshm> jarray52: i dont think so. Because i've used this machine for nearly 2 yrs now and till date its had many sleepless nights and never have i seen this problem...
[04:41] <rkhshm> To add to the mystery i had turned the machine off yesterday for nearly 8 hrs and today morning i tried booting it up and it failed the first time then after 3 repeated attempts it worked
[04:41] <john> Okay I did the ctl alt f2 thing but then I couldn't get out of it
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> john:  f1 through 6 is consoles. f7 is normally X
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> sometimes x will be on f8 or higher
[04:42] <sacarlson> rkhshm: well then it's not a temp problem in your case
[04:42] <john> Dr_Willis: okay...thanks
[04:43] <sacarlson> rkhshm: unless your house is very cold?  maybe freezing?
[04:43] <mobilenoob11> I am installing ubuntu from a usb, and I'm at the partion manager, I just resized the windows partition, and now I have free space that needs to be the ubuntu.
[04:43] <rkhshm> sacarlson: its not freezing but a healthy 28-29C
[04:43] <rkhshm> :)
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  you dont have 4 primary partitions already defined do you?
[04:44] <sacarlson> rkhshm: also noted the freeradius in your pastebin, did you install that from the repository?  I failed to even get the standard freeradius to run without compiling it
[04:44] <reflexrg> what's a good classic 2d space shooter game(s) for ubuntu?
[04:45] <mobilenoob11> no
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> reflexrg:  like asteroids?
[04:45] <jarray52> rkhshm: If it isn't getting to BIOS, it is either a BIOS bug, malware that infects BIOS, or hardware failure. Malware that sophisticated is unlikely. Check your manufacturer's website regarding BIOS bugs. Hardware is tricky. It could be anything from a capacitor to a chip.
[04:45] <mobilenoob11> I have the three that came with, and free space
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  so make a extended partition, and make some logicals in it. to put ubuntu in. :)
[04:46] <rkhshm> jarray52: the reason i'm so involved in fixing this is becuase i get warranty on the mobo as of now..
[04:46] <reflexrg> Dr_Willis: it can be going horizontal or vertical
[04:46] <rkhshm> so i can get it replaced easily ;)
[04:46] <sacarlson> rkhshm: most my hardware problem was fixed with eather cleaning the mem chip connectors or replace the power supply (when they fail to power up)
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> reflexrg:  MAME has all the old classic arcade games
[04:46] <mobilenoob11> Should it be primary?
[04:47] <reflexrg> thanks Dr_Willis
[04:47] <rkhshm> hmm
[04:47] <reflexrg> is that a meta package in ubuntu or is that an emulator? Dr_Willis
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  you need a partition for / and  for swap. so a extended with logicals is the  normal way
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> !info mame
[04:47] <sacarlson> rkhshm: reposition mem sims seems to have corrected some of my problems but probly just unpluging them and replug was the real fix
[04:48] <reflexrg> isn't suggesting that illegal Dr_Willis ?
[04:48] <reflexrg> most roms are not free to use
[04:48] <rkhshm> sacarlson: i did that already and it worked for a few days
[04:48] <reflexrg> where do you go for legal roms? Dr_Willis
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> reflexrg:  the app is legal and you can buy some of the roms.
[04:48] <rkhshm> now its back to being a pain :(
[04:48] <jarray52> What's the easiest way to get vga_switcheroo working on Ubuntu 10.04
[04:48] <jarray52> ?
[04:48] <reflexrg> Free ones Dr_Willis
[04:48] <fleakite> Hi. Is there a way to change the window scrollbar to pre-Unity style?
[04:49] <sacarlson> rkhshm: then I start pulling mem sims out as some don't fail for days or weeks
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> ive bought several 'arcade' packs  - over theyears from nameco and so forth that was mame repackaged by them
[04:49] <reflexrg> going out for a walk be back Dr_Willis
[04:49] <mobilenoob11> Do I split the free space into more than one?
[04:49] <rkhshm> sacarlson: that would not be a permanent solution now would it.
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  you need a partitoion for / and one for swap as a minimum normally.
[04:49] <rkhshm> because there seems to be something inherently wrong..
[04:50] <sacarlson> rkhshm: yes it has been in one case as I could no longer get the old mem sims to replace them
[04:50] <mobilenoob11> What kind of space is required for swap?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> depends on your needs and your memory
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> i normally do 1gb swap.
[04:51] <mobilenoob11> So I need a 1 gig ext4 to do swap then?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> swap is not ext4.. its swap ;)
[04:51] <mobilenoob11> I soo sorry, I did not realise what I was getting into.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> the instlleer can auto partion the unallocated space.
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> or you can use gparted to make the swap partition and / partiton beforhand.
[04:52] <mobilenoob11> If I choose install along side, it will do this for me?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> the filesystem used by the swap partition is of the type 'swap'
[04:52] <mobilenoob11> I know how to use g parted
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> i  always partion my drives with gparted beforhand.  i dont trust the auto stuff. :)
[04:53] <Darkenvy> how can I install java on ubuntu 10.04 server?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> i also tend to use a hard drive for linux and one for windows.. the trmanolgy of the installer makes it confuseing as how to 'use all of one hard drive'
[04:54] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: there are a few options for java I would go for the real oricle one
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> !java | Darkenvy
[04:54] <mobilenoob11> Im on laptop. Does it matter if swap or ext4 are at begining or end?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> dont matter much these days mobilenoob11
[04:55] <Darkenvy> ever since sun java6 dissapeared ive been here several times for java
[04:55] <roasted> Anybody getting continual messages in Chrome about running flash for "this time only" and whatnot?
[04:55] <jarray52> Darkenvy: sudo aptitude install openjdk-6-jdk
[04:55] <Darkenvy> I cannot for the life of me remember how I get it working each time and have tried many many guides
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> i just use the open sourced java.
[04:56] <Phiscribe> yes i see that often installing java fx seemed to reduce it
[04:57] <Darkenvy> installing…: will openjdk be fine for hosting a game called minecraft you think?
[04:57] <mobilenoob11> Thanks guys, I have one more question. Is there any reason the track pad on this acer aspire isn't working on ubuntu??
[04:57] <Darkenvy> Ive always used sun :P
[04:57] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: I note that my grayed out firefox I think is from java as when I turn off java it never gets gray (locked or slow)  but it seems that's with several java versions
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> see the mindcraft site as to what they suggest
[04:57] <jarray52> Darkenvy: probably not. If it was compiled with sunjdk, it probably won't run with openjdk.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> we get way to many minecraft support questions in here. :)  but it seems its been slowing down.. perhps the game is burning out in popularity now
[04:58] <Darkenvy> well what happened to sun jaba?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> oravle bought sun, then just a few months back.. messed with the java licenseing.. so now all the linux disrtos had to change things
[04:59] <sacarlson> Darkenvy: orical purchased sun, not sure if that made any difference
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> the license change was the big stinker.
[05:00] <mobilenoob11> Is there any need tthanks guys!
[05:01] <Darkenvy> hmmm well that sucks!
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Oracle sucks;)
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> they ae good at messing things up.
[05:01] <john> Can do the CTRL ALT F2 thing, but cannot get out of it...help1
[05:01] <john> help!
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> john:  clarofy wht you mean exactly.
[05:01] <sacarlson> john: <ctl><alt> f7  or is it f8
[05:02] <john> sacarlson: Ah, thanks...didn't realize I needed the ctl alt in front of the f7
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> sudo service lightdm restart will close x andrestarft it also..
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> you used ctrl-alt to get to it ;)
[05:03] <john> sacarlson: That worked...thank you so much and DR Willis too!
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> john:  f1 through 6 is consoles. f7 is normally X
[05:03] <john> dr_willis
[05:04] <loonatic> Hi people
[05:04] <loonatic> I need help
[05:04] <john> Dr_Willis: With ctrl alt in front of f1 thru f6?
[05:04] <loonatic> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and it's so damn slow
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> john:  yes. thats normal...
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> altctrl  f1 through f6
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> i think on jut the console you dont need the ctrl. but i forget.
[05:05] <john> Dr_Willis: Okay, I understand better now...I hope LOL
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> but to get to the consoled you need both
[05:05] <loonatic> Can anyone help me?
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl f1 through F6 gets to the 6 consoles..  rather straight forward ;) F7 is X
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> loonatic:  details of your syst4m specs and whqt you have done so fafr with it are going to be helpfull
[05:06] <john> Dr_Willis: Thanks...didn't realize that but I do now...very helpful for next time my system hangs...I hope...
[05:06] <loonatic> Dr_Willis: Dell notebook, 3 gb RAM, intel core 2 duo
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> john:  install ssh server, so you can remote-shell in to fix things also
[05:07] <loonatic> Dr_Willis: I've done nothing, I just made a fresh install of 12.04. The problem is this: trying to open programs takes A LONG time
[05:08] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  execute (paste) this is in a terminal, for a basic upgrade + clean up =>  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:08] <john> Dr_Willis: Don't know what an ssh server is or a remote shell...sorry
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | john
[05:08] <john> ubottu: Thanks
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> john:  im on my android phone right now, ssh'd into my home pc. running this irc client. ;)
[05:09] <MonkeyDust> Dr_Willis  you're a geek
[05:09] <john> Dr_Willis: cool
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> if i was a geek id have openvpn setup ;)
[05:10] <john> Dr_Willis: I C LOL
[05:11] <loonatic> MonkeyDust: done. What now?
[05:11] <Phiscribe> geek wannabe
[05:11] <Phiscribe> he eh eh eh eh he he
[05:12] <daniel110> How stable is adobe photoshop on ubuntu with wine?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | daniel110
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> daniel110:  ive herd older versions work. )
[05:13] <loonatic> Opening Ubuntu Software Center takes about 15 seconds... :(
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> thats the etend of my adobe PS knowledge
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> loonatic:  so?  that seem about normal. :) how about 'gedit'
[05:14] <refresh> test
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> refresh: true/false of mulpital guess?
[05:14] <loonatic> Dr_WIllis: about 40 seconds ¬¬
[05:15] <loonatic> Dr_Willis: about 40 seconds to open Gedit
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> loonatic:  now close gedit and try it again
[05:15] <loonatic> Dr_Willis: 7 seconds
[05:15] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  install preload, it loads apps that you use often faster -- also: add vm.swappiness=10 in /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:16] <loonatic> MonkeyDust is there a way to permanently set the swap value to 10? I
[05:17] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  you mean the swap size?
[05:17] <loonatic> MonkeyDust yes
[05:17] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  then you have to resize the partition, i do not advice it
[05:18]  * Dr_Willis thinks we are getting terms confused
[05:19] <loonatic> MonkeyDust, when I type "sudo cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness" in the terminal I got "60", but I had previously set this value to 0, how come it changed?
[05:19] <loonatic> MonkeyDust when I change it to 0 gedit opens in no time
[05:19] <CoJaBo> loonatic: If you want it preserved on reboot, set it in /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:20] <loonatic> CoJaBo can you give me the instructions to do it? I'm not an expert user
[05:20] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  that's the vm.swappiness=10 thing
[05:20] <CoJaBo> O yeh; scroll up lol :P
[05:21] <CoJaBo> Just edit the file as root, add that line (or change it if it already happens to be there)
[05:22] <loonatic> CoJaBo okay, will do
[05:23] <loonatic> okay now it's taking forever to open that file :|
[05:24] <MonkeyDust> !info preload | loonatic
[05:26] <loonatic> MonkeyDust ubottu, okay, but this is weird, when I was using ubuntu 10.10 I didn't have to install "Preload", everything worked perfectly
[05:26] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  ubuntu evolution has been weird all over
[05:28] <loonatic> MonkeyDust haha yeah, i know
[05:28] <loonatic> okay i'm off to bed now people, thanks for your help!
[05:29] <loonatic> oh yeah
[05:29] <loonatic> just one thing
[05:29] <loonatic> before i leave
[05:29] <loonatic> how on earth do you remove app launchers?
[05:29] <loonatic> when i right-click on a launcher all i get is either "launch" or "properties"
[05:30] <mz|`> o/
[05:30] <wylde_> \o
[05:31] <Ormie> i686 vs. x86-64?
[05:31] <mz|`> Ormie: depends on your needs.
[05:31] <Darkfall117> /nickname
[05:31] <mz|`> use more than 192GB of RAM ? :)
[05:31] <Darkfall117> hey hey
[05:31] <loonatic> how on earth do you remove app launchers?
[05:32] <loonatic> when i right-click on a launcher all i get is either "launch" or "properties"
[05:32] <mz|`> ALT + click ?
[05:32]  * mz|` does not use gnome :-(
[05:32] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  what's the outcome of uname -a ?
[05:33] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, Why do you ask me?
[05:33] <MonkeyDust> you'll see why
[05:33] <loonatic> mz|` doesnt work :(
[05:33] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, ?
[05:34] <mz|`> loonatic: unity or gnome ?
[05:34] <loonatic> mz|` gnome
[05:34] <gry> loonatic: Uh. Alt+click on the panel would at least bring a menu so you can choose to 'customise' the panel as of 11.10.
[05:34] <mz|`> gry: exactly
[05:34] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, I don't see why.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> super-right click i think
[05:35] <mz|`> do not alt/click on an icon thought...
[05:35] <loonatic> nothing happens :S
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> or super alt-right click
[05:35] <gry> loonatic: ok. Try shift+ right click, ctrl + right click.
[05:35] <loonatic> nothing
[05:35] <mz|`> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91445/how-do-i-remove-an-icon-from-the-top-panel-in-gnome-fallback-mode
[05:36] <Ormie> I think GNOME 3 needs a some work!
[05:36] <wylde_> beat it with a stick?
[05:36] <mz|`> use i3wm
[05:36] <mz|`> or awesome
[05:37] <loonatic> mz|` you're my hero!
[05:37] <gry> loonatic: It only works in fallback mode.
[05:37] <gry> Augh, mz|` beat me to it. Thanks. :)
[05:37] <loonatic> gry i don't quite understand what "fallback mode" means
[05:37] <mz|`> that you do not use unity
[05:37] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  it's what I use, it looks very much like gnome2
[05:37] <mz|`> gry: ;)
[05:38] <gry> loonatic: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3-fallback.html 'fallback mode' section
[05:38] <nirjhor> ImportError:libtinfo.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:38] <nirjhor> getting this error
[05:38] <nirjhor> any help pls?
[05:38] <mz|`> i answered in #debian already nirjhor
[05:38] <wylde_> !find libtinfo.so.5
[05:39] <gry> nirjhor: http://kaushikprajapati.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/libtinfo-so-5-error-in-ubuntu-and-solution-for-the-same/
[05:40] <loonatic> gry yeah i'm definitely on fallback mode, but how can I change this?
[05:41] <mz|`> loonatic: log out and choose your DM/WM on the login screen
[05:42] <internetheroz> hi, I'm trying to get into Grub
[05:42] <internetheroz> My computer automatically transfers to the kernel when booting up
[05:43] <internetheroz> at what stage during the bootup do I need to press 'SHIFT' to get into GRUB?
[05:43] <wylde_> internetheroz: right after your bios posts
[05:44] <internetheroz> wylde_ is the bios the screen that gives me options like 'Press F10 for setup'?
[05:44] <wylde_> internetheroz: yessir
[05:44] <internetheroz> got it, thanks
[05:44] <wylde_> internetheroz: or just after that, my bad
[05:45] <ruoshan> hi there,I found that the lightdm takes about 10 sec to present me the passwd-input area
[05:45] <ruoshan> can it be fixed?
[05:45] <loonaatic> gry I didn't understand your last message
[05:45] <loonaatic> gry you said "log out " and then.. ???
[05:45] <gry> 15:11:25 < mz|`> loonatic: log out and choose your DM/WM on the login screen
[05:46] <loonaatic> gry what's DM/WM? :p
[05:46] <MonkeyDust> loonatic  click on the small ubuntu icon to choose
[05:46] <mz|`> desktop manager or window manager
[05:46] <gry> loonaatic: display menager/window manager.
[05:46] <loonaatic> ahhhhh
[05:46] <gry> oh, or that.
[05:46] <loonaatic> which one do i choose?
[05:46] <mz|`> I3WM !
[05:46] <mz|`> :D
[05:47] <loonaatic> i'm on unity 2d right now
[05:48] <MonkeyDust> loonaatic  try them all and choose the one you prefer
[05:48] <loonaatic> urgh this whole thing is driving me nuts
[05:48] <Pro_JOHN> Hello friends!!!
[05:48] <loonaatic> okay
[05:48] <aaas> what preferred pdf viewer do people use?
[05:48] <loonaatic> exit
[05:48] <MonkeyDust> loonaatic  that's called 'learning'
[05:48] <loonaatic> hah
[05:48] <loonaatic> :D
[05:49] <mz|`> aaas: acroread/xpdf/pdfviewer/evince
[05:49] <mz|`> depends on your desktop (kde/gnome/else)
[05:49] <aaas> acroread seems to require i386 libs for me
[05:50] <mz|`> aaas: and ? :)
[05:50] <aaas> and wants to install 200 packages and breaks other programs when i want to install
[05:50] <mohadib> i have 2 network interfaces, connected to different networks, both configured with dhcp, is it possible to set a metric for the gateways?
[05:50] <wylde_> aaas: could try any of the other PS readers :)
[05:50] <Poesghost> quit
[05:50] <aaas> wylde yes i will
[05:51] <aaas> well pdf readers
[05:51] <Phiscribe> xpdf evince, kpdf many others, i use the chromium browser alot to quick view pdfs
[05:51] <mz|`> pdfmod is nice too
[05:51] <MonkeyDust> !pdf
[05:52] <gry> !info pdfedit
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> !info pdf2html
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> ;()
[05:55] <bhavesh> !mint
[05:58] <maj> I just DLed VLC and all files seem to be greyed out. I can't select them.  Is there a way to assign file types in Ubuntu?
[05:58] <jarray52> How does one use the radeon graphics card using vga_switcheroo?
[06:00] <MonkeyDust> jarray52  start here http://askubuntu.com/questions/19897/getting-vga-switcheroo-with-ati-mobility-radeon-5650-hd-to-work#39485
[06:01] <MonkeyDust> jarray52  mind: it says 10.10
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> maj:  downloaded how?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> you can just drag/drop ino the vlc playlist. ifyou want to play a lot
[06:06] <MonkeyDust> maj  or select allt the files in nautilus and then right click or press enter to play them
[06:06] <wylde_> right click "Open with..." choose vlc and check the box to remeber that option?
[06:06] <Pro_JOHN> helloo I am PRO_JOHN
[06:06] <MonkeyDust> hi Pro_JOHN i'm MonkeyDust
[06:07] <maj> Ok   I DLed it with ubuntu software center
[06:07] <jarray52> MonkeyDust: I'm giving that a try.
[06:08] <maj> when I use open directory from VLC all the files are grey    I haven't  tryed nautilus
[06:08] <Valiant> 12.04 - How do I set the default program to use when opening a file? (The equivalent of "Always the selected program.. in windows")
[06:08] <gry> In Nautilus, right click the file, properties.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> righ click on a file.. open with...
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> or sothing like that
[06:09] <wylde_> maj: umm just click open then. If you're using "Open Directory" it will add all those files to the playlist.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> 'open directory'; wants the dirextory... not a single file
[06:11] <MonkeyDust> Valiant  system settings, details
[06:11] <Valiant> Only temporary, the next time I double click the file, it reverts back to the default program set by ubuntu
[06:11] <Valiant> Can it be set permanently?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> there  a check box in tghe dialogs for open with ti set it to be the default
[06:11] <wylde_> Valiant: there's a chackbox to tell it to remember the application.
[06:11] <MonkeyDust> Valiant  system settings, details, default applications
[06:12] <wylde_> or what MonkeyDust is saying :)
[06:12] <Valiant> There is no check box.
[06:12] <maj> OK thats got it     the  default was movie player    I changed it      but it did want a directory  to setup a playlist    open file worked fine   thanks
[06:12] <jarray52> MonkeyDust: I added radeon.modeset=1 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and ran update-grub. That didn't seem to work. Ubuntu still doesn't load the radeon card. I also installed a 2.6.38 kernel using backports. This kernel has vga_switcheroo features and the .config shows that it is selected.
[06:13] <MonkeyDust> jarray52  well, i have intel video myself, i only provided the link
[06:13] <jarray52> MonkeyDust: Thanks for trying.
[06:14] <Valiant> MonkeyDust, the file type is not listed there
[06:14] <mobilenoob11> Help! device for boot loader installation:
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> mobilenoob11:  the mbr of the hd you are booting.. ie /dev/sda
[06:14] <fleakite> Hi. Isn't the firewall available on Ubuntu 12.04?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  its in there.
[06:14] <mobilenoob11> k
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[06:14] <Valiant> The goal is to open an exe file with mono, but ubuntu opens it with Archive Manager by default.
[06:15] <MonkeyDust> Valiant  ah, exe
[06:15] <mobilenoob11> Thanks willis you great
[06:15] <hrolf> How can I restart my touchpad driver?
[06:15] <wylde_> !ufw | fleakite
[06:15] <fleakite> Dr_Willis, I searched dashboard for "firewall" but no results
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> you dont  need a gui  for the firewall. ;)
[06:15] <hrolf> Sometimes it behaves strangely when I'm using Banshee but a restart fixes it is there any command to restart the touchpad driver?
[06:15] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  try gufw
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> i dont use the firewall at all..
[06:15] <wylde_> fleakite: ufw is there by default, you just have to enable it. If you want a gui you can try gufw
[06:15] <fleakite> Oh. So it's enabled by default, but just doesn't have a GUI?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  its included.. with no rules by default.. so  its not doing anything by default
[06:16] <wylde_> fleakite: it's there but not enabled.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  why do you need the firewall?
[06:16] <fleakite> OK. I'm going to install gufw.
[06:17] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  if you have a running local network, ufw or gufw may disturb it
[06:17] <wylde_> fleakite: if you're behind a router, router/modemyou're already firewalled from the internet.
[06:17] <fleakite> So all incoming connections are denied by default even though firewall isn't present?
[06:18] <fleakite> I mean, I don't know much about this .. but I thought it was dangerous to run any system without a firewall
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  thers no services running  by default.. so theres nothing to  onnect to
[06:18] <wylde_> fleakite: if you have a router between you and the internet yes.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  you are thinking of 'windows'
[06:18] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  look into your router's interface to find out
[06:18] <fleakite> I dunno how to do that :\
[06:18] <wylde_> fleakite: hit up http://grc.com and follow the links to "shieldsup" it'll scan your system and tell you if you have open ports.
[06:19] <fleakite> OK. Will try that out now wylde
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> if you got a router between your pc and the internet.. you most likely have no need to worry about  the  firewall in linux at all...
[06:19] <wylde_> unles you have untrustworthy clients on your internal network.
[06:19] <fleakite> Sorry, I'm just so used to Windows that the idea of running a system without a firewall is scary
[06:19] <Odd-rationale> hrolf: try 'sudo modprobe -r psmouse' to unload the module. And 'sudo modprobe psmouse' to reload it.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  i normally turn off my windows firewall :)
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> its not stopping people getting in.. my router is allreay dooing that
[06:20]  * wylde_ has no windows >.>
[06:20] <fleakite> What if I use Tor browser?  Should I have a firewall then?
[06:20] <wylde_> ok well, I have a small windows vm......but shhhhh
[06:20] <fleakite> Dr_Willis, Wow. I'm scared to even attempt that
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  MS has you trained to be scared.
[06:21] <hip2theehop> Anyone know of good DVB-t programs?
[06:21] <Guest75733> 1st Timer here. I'm trying to bring back to life an old Compaq Presario laptop. The old hard drive had crashed and I have a new blank harddrive I want to install Ubuntu on. Before putting it in the laptop I'm wondering if I may install Ubuntu onto the drive by USB connecting it to my desktop computer and install Ubuntu then place drive in laptop & if it will work
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> nothing gets to my pc uinless im port forwarding it with the routers settings.  MS can auto set up the port forwarding depending on the router.. so  it can turn off its own  firewall rules ;)
[06:22] <Valiant> fixed, i have to right clik>properties the file so that the Set default button to be visible. Its not visible when doing right click>open with..
[06:22] <fleakite> Cool. GRC Shields Up passed all tests. <Phew!> Thanks you guys cc wylde Dr_Willis MonkeyDust
[06:22] <Corey> Guest75733: No CD or USB on the laptop?
[06:22] <wylde_> :)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  it should pas reguardless of what os youi are running.. if you got a router
[06:22] <Corey> Guest75733: It could work, but it adds complication.
[06:22] <MonkeyDust> Guest75733  so you want to move the HHD from one machine to the other?
[06:22] <MonkeyDust> HDD*
[06:23] <Guest75733> tried CD but getting Kernel panic error
[06:23] <Corey> Guest75733: Hmm.  That's not likely to go away with different install methods.
[06:23] <wylde_> Dr_Willis: exactly why I sent them there :)  For the reassurance that they were covered
[06:23] <fleakite> but every internet connection will have a router , right?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  a firewall wont stop your windows box from running malwqre/viruses you download.. but it MIgHT keep it from infecting other pcs on your internal lan.  'might'
[06:24] <Valiant> I have a p3 laptop, removed its harddrive, inserted it in my desktop, install ubuntu, then plugged it back to the laptop. No problem so far
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  every internet connection wont.. how aboyut  your routers connectoon? ;)
[06:24] <fleakite> Ah, that's true.
[06:24] <wylde_> fleakite: most not all. But nowadays 99% of residential broadband modems are modem/routers
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  put a pc ip in the DMZ on your router and  its open to the internet also..
[06:25] <fleakite> So do routers come with inbuilt firewalls?
[06:25] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  the modem connects to the internet, the router is the 'smart part' that can be configured
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> most routers have  security features like that.
[06:25] <wylde_> fleakite: NAT (Network Address Translation) is a natural firewall. It's also how routers work :)
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !nat
[06:26] <Guest75733> ok, must have some other prob w/laptop then. with CD getting Kernel panic error. tried having HHD on desktop & installing then moving HHD to laptop but then got "Bootmgr is missing" error
[06:26] <fleakite> Ah, I have loads to learn!
[06:26] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  we all had, once :)
[06:26] <wylde_> fleakite: you can never know too much :)
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  you dont really need anti virus software or to defrag your linux box either
[06:27] <fleakite> :) I was going to ask about that next .. cool
[06:27] <fleakite> Thanks guys
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> 'windows mindset training'
[06:27] <Valiant> Guest75733, I dont know how to fix that. I tried Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Kubuntu, all worked fine using that method
[06:27] <fleakite> yeah :)
[06:27] <MonkeyDust> fleakite  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[06:28] <wylde_> meh, if it wasn't for my silly dell  AIO printer I wouldn't even have my little windows vm running.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> fleakite:  and rember that CASE is ImpOranT in linux
[06:28] <dontknow> the thing that disturbs me about linux that i won't be able to know if computer is infected or not
[06:29] <fleakite> gotcha
[06:29] <Guest83000> guys Need some Help.i am Trying to boot ubuntu from Live cd.when i am move my cursor or trying to open any application then ubuntu got hanged
[06:29] <wylde_> dontknow: there are AV's for linux if you're concerned. Odds are you get rooted before you get a virus though. heh
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> how do you 'really' know your MS system is infected or not.. ;)
[06:29] <fleakite> useful link, thanks. i have to read the "from windows to ubuntu philosophy guide"
[06:29] <Kliment> Hello everyone. I'm the maintainer of a multiplatform wx app and a user of mine is reporting a really strange problem. Since the latest Ubuntu update they are seeing a missing attribute error in several wx classes when accessed from Python.
[06:30] <CoJaBo> dontknow: Unless you're running a webserver, its generally pretty hard to get a virus on Linux :P
[06:30] <ihashacks> Seriosly, especially with things like "Flame" - malware actually digitally signed with certs approved by MS!
[06:30] <Guest75733> Valiant: Thanks. I guess my Compaq has other problems. Thought/hoped it was just old harddrive. I'll have to try something else with it and will try Ubuntu on a diff computer.
[06:30] <Kliment> The same application worked correctly before the latest update, and now wx is broken to the point even wx.version() will not work
[06:31] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i would know. and there are lots of malicious for windows, but it also has lots of malicious scanner
[06:31] <Kliment> I'm not at all sure how to approach the problem.
[06:31] <mz|`> Kliment: a paste may help ;) and the versions of system/python/else
[06:31] <Kliment> mz|`: https://github.com/kliment/Printrun/issues/235
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> ive had more isues with false positives on windows scanners then i have viruses.. ;)
[06:32] <Kliment> mz|`: Is that useful? I've had another independent report since, I cannot reproduce it myself.
[06:32] <Guest83000> guys Need some Help.i am Trying to boot ubuntu from Live cd.when i am move my cursor or trying to open any application then ubuntu got hanged
[06:32] <wylde_> Kliment: file a bug and be thorough with the info you provide. Maybe hit up the dev's and ubuntu-bugs mailing lists.
[06:32] <Kliment> mz|`: I asked them to install libwxgtk2.8-dev in case it's a dependency issue
[06:32] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i wasn't useing realtime scanner on windows, but infection shows itself
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Guest83000:  you chedkec the cd on other pcs/ checked the ios md5? did a mem test?
[06:32] <Kliment> But wx seems to be there, just not all of it
[06:33] <mz|`> Kliment: seems other people also have this issue after an upgrade to 12.04 : http://pastebin.com/NkqqnnaY
[06:33] <wylde_> Kliment: encourage your users to file bug reports then. If there's more than 1 user affected it get automatically confirmed.
[06:33] <dontknow> wylde, i thought those antiviruses was for windows infection spread
[06:33] <Kliment> mz|`: Yes that's one of my users too
[06:34] <MonkeyDust> remember the FLAME virus
[06:34] <wylde_> dontknow: for the most part yes. There's a tiny chance of virus infection in linux. However, you have to be running a pretty darn insecure system for one to actually manage to accomplish anything.
[06:34] <mz|`> Kliment: oh well
[06:35] <mz|`> print wx.version() -> print wx.__version__ ?
[06:35] <Kliment> mz|`: wx.version() works for me
[06:35] <mz|`> but not for your user
[06:35] <Kliment> >>> wx.version()
[06:35] <Kliment> '<IP_ADDRESS> (gtk2-unicode)'
[06:36] <dontknow> wylde_, i am using ubuntu with ufw and router firewall