[10:35] <cpk2> you want to hear the whole story?
[10:35] <Jucato> hm.. ok
[10:36] <cpk2> "azplugins" cant update because I dont have permission in ~/.azureus/plugins/azplugins/azplugins_2.1.1.jar
[10:36] <cpk2> also the gui dies if i try to view the files in a torrent from within azureus
[10:36] <cpk2> azureus doesnt die
[10:36] <Jucato> hm.. are you supposed to be able to update those plugins in the first place?
[10:36] <cpk2> just the gui is unusable
[10:36] <cpk2> its an autoupdate thing so i would think yes?
[10:37] <Jucato> well, you're not able to use Firefox's autoupdate right? so maybe the same thing in azureus?
[10:38] <cpk2> oh, i havent tried using firefox heh
[10:38] <Jucato> heh
[10:38] <cpk2> i dont get why I dont have permision in home though
[10:41] <cpk2> i guess maybe someone who uses azureus will come in and see me griping about it one day
[10:41] <cpk2> or maybe the repo will be updated
[10:41] <Jucato> hopefully :)
[10:42] <cpk2> azureus is at 2.5 and the repo at 2.3 =(
[10:42] <noiesmo> cpk2, have you tried bittornado-gui i find it quite good
[10:42] <Jucato> or ktorrent
[10:43] <cpk2> <--- stuck in his ways
[10:43] <noiesmo> never liked ktorrent
[10:43] <noiesmo> you can say that again
[10:43] <noiesmo> haha
[10:43] <cpk2> same reason why i have kubuntu not gnome
[10:44] <cpk2> I use kde and dont want change =P
[10:44] <noiesmo> cpk2, I use kde wouldn't change at this stage but if I need an app and its gnome/gtk based so what install it use it
[10:56] <damiano> hello
[10:56] <damiano> is there anybody?
[10:56] <cpk2> nope
[10:56] <Jucato> no one here but us ghosts
[10:57] <damiano> :)
[10:57] <damiano> kubuntu has a bug
[10:57] <Jucato> it has lots :P
[10:57] <damiano> i have installed any package to run apache php and mysql
[10:57] <damiano> apache2 apache2-common apache2-utils libapache2-mod-auth-mysql libapache2-mod-auth-pam libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql libapache2-mod-auth-plain libapache2-mod-php5 libapache2-mod-security libapache2-mod-fastcgi php5 php5-common php5-gd php5-mysql php5-mysqli php5-odbc php5-pgsql php5-xmlrpc php5-sqlite php5-mcrypt php5-ps php5-gd php4-domxml mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 mysql-admin mysql-admin-common
[10:58] <damiano> but php is not installed!! Why?
[10:58] <damiano> Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) Server at <IP_ADDRESS> Port 80
[10:58] <damiano> php not found, why?
[10:58] <Jucato> because php5 is already installed?
[10:58] <Jucato> !php5
[10:58] <ubotu> php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[10:59] <damiano> no
[10:59] <damiano> damiano@damiano:~$ whereis php
[10:59] <damiano> php:
[10:59] <damiano> damiano@damiano:~$
[10:59] <noiesmo> damiano, check /etc/php5
[10:59] <noiesmo> damiano, also check in apache conf if mysql.so is not commented out
[10:59] <damiano> ops yes exist
[11:00] <damiano> where is apache config?
[11:01] <noiesmo> damiano, /etc/apache2/
[11:01] <rampage>  where can i find new fronts ???
[11:01] <damiano> ops
[11:01] <damiano> # This is here for backwards compatability reasons and to support
[11:01] <damiano> #  installing 3rd party modules directly via apxs2, rather than
[11:01] <damiano> #  through the /etc/apache2/mods-{available,enabled} mechanism.
[11:01] <damiano> #
[11:01] <damiano> #LoadModule mod_placeholder /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_placeholder.so
[11:02] <Jucato> damiano: please don't flood
[11:02] <damiano> this is my httpd.conf
[11:02] <Jucato> !pastebin
[11:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:02] <damiano> sorry
[11:02] <Jucato> use that instead ^^^^
[11:02] <noiesmo> damiano, apache2 is a little diff to apache 1.3
[11:02] <rampage> where can i find new fronts ???
[11:02] <noiesmo> damiano, check the files in sites-enabled and sites-available folders in the /etc/apache2 folder and RTFM
[11:03] <rampage>   where can i find new fronts ???
[11:03] <damiano> i have apache2.conf
[11:03] <damiano> is this?
[11:03] <noiesmo> damiano, check the files in sites-enabled and sites-available folders in the /etc/apache2 folder you should have default
[11:04] <noiesmo> damiano, /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[11:04] <damiano> ok
[11:04] <noiesmo> damiano, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default
[11:05] <noiesmo> rampage, have you got sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[11:05] <wildchild> How do I check how much space do I have on HD
[11:05] <noiesmo> wildchild, df -h
[11:06] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25793/ (avalaible)
[11:07] <noiesmo> damiano, so at mo the /var/www folder is your website space
[11:07] <rampage>  yea
[11:07] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25794/ (enable)
[11:07] <damiano> yes i have undestand but php module is not load
[11:08] <Acidic32> -how do i get X Libarys and headers?
[11:08] <damiano> apache is running
[11:08] <damiano> but php no!
[11:09] <flaccid> i just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop and now both gdm and kdm run on startup
[11:10] <damiano> why?
[11:10] <Jucato> hm.. that's not possible afaik?
[11:11] <flaccid> what file chooses the login manager?
[11:11] <Jucato> hm.. let me search my memory....
[11:11] <noiesmo> somewhere in your apache2.conf (or in your conf.d/php.ini) file find ;extension=php_mysql.so so this become extension=php_mysql.so
[11:11] <noiesmo> damiano, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[11:11] <charlie5> anyone know how to setup ip filters to allow d/l via ktorrent ?
[11:11] <Jucato> some x* file...
[11:11] <damiano> ?
[11:11] <flaccid> !gdm
[11:11] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[11:11] <flaccid> !kdm
[11:11] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[11:12] <flaccid> !loginmanager
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loginmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <flaccid> hmm
[11:12] <gijs> damiano, is php5.conf and php5.load present in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and /etc/apache2/mods-available dirs?
[11:12] <noiesmo> charlie5, install firestarter its great for that nice gui
[11:12] <flaccid> anyone know where to start
[11:12] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25793/ (avalaible)
[11:12] <Jucato> rawr I know I've seen it before...
[11:12] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25794/ (enable)
[11:13] <damiano> ops
[11:13] <damiano> one moment
[11:13] <charlie5> noiesmo: i think my modem (netcomm) has an inbuilt firewall i have to use ?
[11:13] <damiano> damiano@damiano:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled$ dir
[11:13] <damiano> cgi.load  fastcgi.conf  fastcgi.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load
[11:13] <damiano> damiano@damiano:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled$
[11:14] <damiano> in /etc/apache2/mods-available
[11:14] <damiano> is present php5.conf
[11:14] <damiano> php5.load
[11:14] <damiano> php5.conf
[11:14] <damiano> right^
[11:15] <damiano> LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[11:15] <Acidic32> -how do i get X Libarys and headers?
[11:15] <damiano> in php5.load
[11:15] <damiano> so why php is not runnnnnnn!!!!?!?
[11:16] <noiesmo> charlie5, normally point web browser at <IP_ADDRESS> or maybe <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> check manual for moden should have web iface
[11:17] <Jucato> Acidic32: xorg-dev ?
[11:17] <charlie5> noiesmo: thanks, i have found the modem config page ... but i don;t understand the settings, or what to add to allow ktorrent traffic (upload is ok ... d/l is blocked)
[11:17] <Acidic32> i installed that
[11:17] <Jucato> xserver-xorg-dev?
[11:17] <damiano> noiesmo are you here?
[11:18] <damiano> i restart
[11:19] <Acidic32> !adept-crash-fix
[11:19] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[11:19] <noiesmo> charlie5, normally torrent is port 6881-6889 so you would need to forward those ports to the machine running ktorrent
[11:20] <noiesmo> charlie5, then on machine running ktorrent open firewall ports also
[11:23] <charlie5> noiesmo: ok, thank you very much ... i will see if i can set that up in the modem firewall config
[11:23] <buzzy-> do you know gnormalize? is it good?
[11:25] <godfather> guys g'day
[11:25] <godfather> i'd like to know
[11:25] <godfather> if kubuntu is stable and strong like ubuntu
[11:25] <godfather> someone tells me that it isn't so
[11:25] <godfather> for example
[11:26] <tejinder> how do i remove openoffice?
[11:26] <godfather> adept doesn't work well like synaptic
[11:26] <Jucato> godfather: Adept doesn't work like Synaptic because it is not Synaptic :)
[11:26] <godfather> and it has got a reduced number of packages
[11:26] <roconnor> why are linux-kernel-headers only available for  <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:26] <Jucato> but if you mean the basic functions, they're practically the same
[11:26] <main2> how do i disable localisation in my console?
[11:26] <godfather> yeah of course
[11:26] <godfather> :)
[11:27] <Jucato> of course you can still use Synaptic in Kubuntu. nothing wrong with that
[11:27] <godfather> i mean it doesn't work with the same performance ...security stability and so on
[11:28] <Jucato> security? just the same afaik. stability, Synaptic "might" be more stable. but it really has nothing to do with whether Kubuntu is stable or not. it's just one app
[11:28] <Whiz2> anyone know the syntax in fstab for automounting ext3 patitions with umask=000? I have an issue where they won't automount
[11:28] <godfather> i don't want a hybrid machince...you know ubuntu with kde
[11:28] <Whiz2> I managed get them formatted correctly now tho
[11:28] <Jucato> godfather: you won't have to install ubuntu to have Synaptic in Kubuntu
[11:28] <Jucato> you will only install the needed libs. that's all.
[11:29] <cojy> hi everyone
[11:29] <ninHer> hi all
[11:29] <cojy> I need a little help....anybody?? :(
[11:29] <NthDegree> what's up cojy?
[11:29] <NthDegree> !help
[11:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:29] <NthDegree> oops wrong info
[11:29] <cojy> hi
[11:30] <Jucato> !ask
[11:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:30] <NthDegree> so what's the problem?
[11:30] <NthDegree> that's the one Jucato :)
[11:30] <Jucato> :P
[11:30] <cojy> I am a begginer in linux system...I've installed ubuntu, and
[11:30] <godfather> i want use kde that's the truth
[11:30] <godfather> i tried to install kde on ubuntu
[11:30] <cojy> I want to install a printer driver
[11:30] <godfather> but t is a caos
[11:30] <buzzy-> people i have downloaded a tar that has to be installaed: i type sudo ./install but it says : "make command not found"
[11:30] <buzzy-> bobesponja,
[11:30] <cojy> I've down the driver that is an archive tz..
[11:30] <godfather> i want install kubuntu
[11:31] <main2> how do i disable localisation in my console?, i want my english console back :(
[11:31] <Jucato> godfather: it will definitely be chaotic since you're having both Kubuntu and Ubuntu on one system
[11:31] <NthDegree> cojy, uh what printer?
[11:31] <cojy> and I don't know what to do further
[11:31] <cojy> lexmark
[11:31] <cojy> I entered the terminal
[11:31] <godfather> having the same power and stabilit that i had on ubuntu
[11:31] <main2> cojy: congratulations :-))
[11:31] <cojy> but when it asks for a pass I can't write nothing
[11:31] <NthDegree> have you tried the normal method of installing printers?
[11:31] <NthDegree> OMG lol
[11:31] <NthDegree> cojy, listen to me:
[11:31] <cojy> ?? what that? :)
[11:31] <cojy> kl
[11:31] <cojy> ok
[11:31] <NthDegree> cojy: you will not see what you type, it does type
[11:32] <NthDegree> not even *s will appear
[11:32] <kamikaze> ei
[11:32] <cojy> aham...so I have to type my pass and press enter
[11:32] <cojy> right?
[11:32] <NthDegree> yep that's what ya gotta do :)
[11:32] <charlie5> hi again ... what 'Port Map' setting should i use for ktorrent port forwarding ?
[11:32] <tejinder> which one is preffered interface to APT? apt-get or aptitude?
[11:33] <cojy> and after this?
[11:33] <cojy> I read somethig that I have to write make
[11:33] <NthDegree> cojy, uh you're compiling printer drivers?
[11:33] <cojy> when I'm in the drivers directory
[11:33] <Whiz2> no one will answer my question?
[11:33] <cojy> I think so
[11:33] <NthDegree> cojy:  what exact model of printer is it?
[11:34] <cojy> I don't know how to work with the terminal....I have the bas, but...
[11:34] <cojy> lexmark x5250
[11:34] <cojy> i downloaded the driver from the official site
[11:34] <cojy> it has the extension .tar.gz
[11:35] <NthDegree> right ok
[11:35] <cojy> I've extracted the archive...
[11:35] <cojy> next?
[11:35] <NthDegree> i'll walk you through it
[11:35] <cojy> thanks...I'm all eyes
[11:35] <NthDegree> next you want sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:35] <NthDegree> that will download what you need to make the drivers
[11:35] <buzzy-> peope: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:36] <cojy> where can I donload it?
[11:36] <cojy> download*
[11:36] <NthDegree> i just told you how to download it lol
[11:36] <Whiz2> Help! I need to know the syntax in /etc/fstab for mounting /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdc1 as etx3 filesystems with read/write/execute file permissions for EVERYONE
[11:36] <NthDegree> cojy, type sudo apt-get build-essential
[11:36] <NthDegree> then hit enter
[11:37] <Jucato> cojy: "sudo apt-get build-essential"
[11:37] <Jucato> (without the quotes)
[11:37] <cojy> ok...wait a sec :)
[11:37] <Whiz2> cojy type that into terminal
[11:37] <charlie5> mmm, ktorrent has a plugin which does the port forwarding for you ... nice :)
[11:38] <Whiz2> no help for the fstab illiterate?
[11:38] <tejinder> which one is better? apt-get or aptitude?
[11:38] <cojy> E: Invalid operation build-essential
[11:38] <cojy> what's that??
[11:38] <Jucato> imho aptitude. but apt-cache is better
[11:38] <Jucato> cojy: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" sorry
[11:38] <Acidic32> err sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:38] <Jucato> my fault... sorry
[11:38] <Acidic32> ooo
[11:39] <Acidic32> to slow
[11:39] <cojy> ah..:) ok no problem ;)
[11:39] <NthDegree> 1 sec
[11:39] <Whiz2> Why am I being ignored?
[11:39] <NthDegree> cojy did you get the drivers from here:  http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_659668526_0_en,00.html
[11:40] <cojy> ok...it is installing...
[11:40] <Jucato> Whiz2: maybe because no one knows the answer to your question?
[11:40] <cojy> let me see
[11:40] <Jucato> flaccid: have you found it?
[11:40] <flaccid> nope i just did reconfigure kdm
[11:40] <NthDegree> cojy: because those drivers are for developemnt and aren't really proper drivers
[11:40] <flaccid> but like my hard disk crashed again
[11:41] <flaccid> need a new one in my notebook
[11:41] <flaccid> lost profile data again
[11:41] <tejinder> how do i remove open office?
[11:41] <cojy> yes...that's the page I down the drivers from
[11:41] <Whiz2> nevermind. I'll get help from someone who knows the ins and outs of Linux.
[11:41] <NthDegree> tejinder: try this, sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-common
[11:41] <cojy> next?
[11:42] <NthDegree>  ./configure the archive
[11:42] <cojy> but will I be able to use my printer?
[11:42] <NthDegree> then make clean && make#
[11:42] <buzzy-> peope: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:42] <cojy> k+
[11:42] <cojy> k..wait a sec
[11:42] <NthDegree> cojy, if you got the drivers from there, probably not.....
[11:42] <gijs> depends on what you are trying to convert to what
[11:43] <cojy> damn....however I can try...it has opened the terminal
[11:43] <NthDegree> well if it works you can post the solution in the forum for all to see :)
[11:44] <cojy> ok...after the terminat finished to set up...what do I do next?
[11:44] <Ash-Fox> http://kwine.sf.net <= cool.
[11:45] <rahmetli> trying to update via adept updater,it downloads the packages but stops at 2%,it is trying toupdate sun-java5-bin.
[11:45] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, click show details
[11:46] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox i did it,there is a text for licence and an "ok" button
[11:46] <NthDegree> cojy, you want ./configure then make
[11:46] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox but i cant press the button
[11:46] <cojy> ok...
[11:46] <NthDegree> type that in the terminal
[11:47] <Jucato> rahmetli: use your cursor keys instead of the mouse
[11:47] <NthDegree> once the drivers are made by typing make do a make install
[11:47] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, click it, then try using the cursor keys and hit enter to make your choice.
[11:48] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox no it doesnt work :(
[11:48] <cojy> after make?
[11:48] <NthDegree> make install
[11:48] <cojy> ok
[11:48] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, I've had that problem once, I found killing one of the last apps running under root under 'ps aux' was enough to get it to install without accepting.
[11:49] <buzzy-> friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:49] <cojy> doesn't work :(
[11:50] <cojy> it gives me hundreds of errors
[11:50] <buzzy-> friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:50] <cojy> however thank you NthDegree
[11:51] <cojy> and one more thing...
[11:51] <cojy> haw can I access my ntfs hdd from the root of ubuntu?
[11:51] <Jucato> !ntf
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox now should i kill the process?sorry but i couldnt understand.
[11:51] <Jucato> !ntfs
[11:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:52] <cojy> I mean from filesystem ("/")
[11:52] <NthDegree> !ntfs
[11:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:53] <cojy> the partitions are allready mounted
[11:53] <charlie5> ktorrent will d/l ok now, but i only get dialup d/l speeds ... do i need to change a speed setting somewhere ?
[11:53] <NthDegree> then you can access them
[11:54] <cojy> but if I want to browse something with a program (like amaroK) ?
[11:54] <NthDegree> OMG
[11:54] <cojy> it only shows me /
[11:54] <cojy> what?
[11:54] <NthDegree> type the location where it was mounted
[11:55] <NthDegree> just navigate to where you mounted it
[11:55] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox you mean this procces? "whiptail --backtitle Ubuntu Configuration --title Configuring sun-java5-bin --output-fd 11 --msgbox Operating Syst"
[11:55] <cojy> I can't...it shows me only the folders from "/"
[11:55] <cojy> like bin, boot....
[11:55] <NthDegree> OMG
[11:55] <NthDegree> where did you mount it?
[11:56] <NthDegree> what folder did you mount it on?
[11:56] <bele> Hi! Can I ask your experiences in using BERYL with kubuntu (or should I ask #ubuntu-effects instead?)) Is it stable?
[11:56] <cojy> I don't know....after I've installed ubuntu were allready mounted
[11:56] <cojy> I can access them from my computer
[11:57] <gijs> if you type "mount" in the console it shows all mounted locations
[11:57] <NthDegree> ok then click on mnt
[11:57] <Jucato>  /media
[11:57] <cojy> ok...1 sec
[11:57] <NthDegree> ok then /media lol
[11:57] <Jucato> he could probably see it in Storage Media (media:/) ?
[11:58] <cojy> you're right...there are in media
[11:58] <rampage>  WHERE CAN I FIND x64 WINE
[11:58] <cojy> :)
[11:58] <cojy> thank you all!!!
[11:58] <rampage> I HAVE 64 BITS AMD
[11:58] <NthDegree> rampage: don't be stupid
[11:58] <rampage>  ???
[11:58] <NthDegree> rampage: there's not any 64bit windows apps yet
[11:58] <cojy> btw...there is any guide for the terminat?
[11:59] <NthDegree> cojy, there's the time tested guide
[11:59] <rampage> i have 64 bits amd
[11:59] <NthDegree> cojy: if you don't know what a command does like chown for instance type man chown
[11:59] <rampage>  would i 386 would run
[11:59] <NthDegree> rampage: listen to me
[11:59] <Jucato> cojy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:59] <rampage>  carry on
[11:59] <NthDegree> rampage: you cant run WINDOWS apps on 64 bit WINE
[12:00] <rampage> but their is no 64 bit wine
[12:00] <NthDegree> rampage: because there aren't any 64 bit windows apps to run
[12:00] <NthDegree> rampage: because there's no proper 64 bit windows
[12:00] <rampage>  all i386 wine pacakages
[12:00] <Hurgin> can anyone tell me how to rename volume labels in edgy?, nothing seems to work
[12:00] <cojy> wow :o I didn't knew that...thaks again :)
[12:00] <rampage>  but i368 doesnt install on my machine
[12:01] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox i understand,i did it and solved the problem,i killed the whiptail proccess,and it started to install.Thank youuu.
[12:01] <urosb> hello
[12:01] <NthDegree> rampage: yes it does :) try man dpkg for the right switches to allow an i386 package to install
[12:01] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, ack sorry, I was on the phone
[12:01] <urosb> i need some help with sound drivers
[12:01] <NthDegree> you can do it, just not straight forward :)
[12:02] <rampage>  ok trying
[12:02] <NthDegree> rampage: trust me it can be done, just like VMWare can install on a 64bit machine even though VMWare is i386
[12:02] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox again a yes no screen,i cant press
[12:03] <NthDegree> there's --force=architecture which overrides the architecture lool
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, you'll want to kill that too then :/
[12:03] <cojy> can I change my os boot sequence?
[12:03] <NthDegree> cojy, what do you mean?
[12:04] <NthDegree> cojy, on the GRUB menu, change what is booted by default?
[12:04] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox will it accept is as "ok" ?
[12:04] <cojy> at the system start, by default starts ubuntu...
[12:04] <cojy> a..ok
[12:04] <cojy> how? :)
[12:04] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, in my expirence it should take any kill as a "yes" or "i accept", "ok" etc.
[12:04] <cojy> I don't have such command
[12:04] <NthDegree> cojy, try this:  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:05] <NthDegree> edit that file
[12:05] <cojy> ok
[12:05] <NthDegree> change the "default" line from 0 to 1 or w/e
[12:05] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox thanks agin, i try, cos i dont have anyother choice like pressing. :)
[12:05] <NthDegree> then it can boot Windows by default if that is what you want :|
[12:06] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, it's a shame I can't figure out how to replicate that bug.
[12:06] <cojy> yes..is that what I want
[12:06] <cojy> ok...I'll try
[12:07] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox uninstall sun-java-bin
[12:07] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox then reinstall
[12:07] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox :)
[12:07] <Jucato> just kill Adept and install/update sun java from Konsole
[12:07] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, yeah, I don't have that problem when I retried.
[12:08] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox i have did the same update 5 times before asking here,the problem replicated
[12:09] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox now i love dpkg --configure -a
[12:09] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, the problem is, you can replicate it, but I can't. If I can't replicate it, how will I file a accurate bug report on how to replicate it? :)
[12:10] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox how can i report it?
[12:11] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, main bug reports for adept should be done using KDE's bugzilla
[12:11] <Ash-Fox> http://bugs.kde.org/
[12:11] <Jucato> I think it has already been filed. something about Adept and ncurses
[12:12] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, yet I get the problem only some of the time?
[12:12] <Ash-Fox> Seems something a bit more than ncurses.
[12:12] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: this has been confirmed by many many people (Sun Java and VMWare)
[12:12] <Jucato> i'm not sure if it's ncurses exactly, though
[12:15] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox i have killed the second "yes no screen" and it continued.NOw system is up to date
[12:15] <kamikaze_j> for mp, avi, dix packet?
[12:15] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, alrighty :)
[12:15] <Ash-Fox> !mp3
[12:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:16] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox thanx again :)
[12:16] <nomadsoul> is there something that can explain me how the ubuntu init system works?
[12:17] <octan> !init.d
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <octan> !init
[12:17] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:19] <nomadsoul> cool
[12:20] <patrick_> Does anybody know a forum or FAQ on Ubuntu in combination with the new Dell XPS M1710 laptop?
[12:21] <octan> patrick_, whats the problem?
[12:23] <patrick_> The build in subwoofer is not working and Nvidia card is not willing to work, I have googled and googled and tried like 5/6 times but system crashes on startup when Nvidia card is installed and xorg config nv renamed to nvidia...
[12:23] <Torched> 5/6?
[12:23] <Torched> that's not even a whole time
[12:23] <patrick_> lol
[12:23] <patrick_> 5 to 6 times...
[12:24] <Torched> ohh
[12:24] <patrick_> ;)
[12:24] <octan> patrick_, did you install the nvidia driver ?
[12:25] <patrick_> I did, apt-get the nvidia drivers...
[12:25] <octan> the modules too?
[12:25] <octan> restricted
[12:26] <patrick_> Well, let me search for that document I used...
[12:26] <patrick_> It shows all I did.
[12:26] <patrick_> One moment please.
[12:27] <octan> if you didnt use this,, use it
[12:27] <octan> !nvidia
[12:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:28] <nomadsoul> octan: is there a directory where i can found the configuration files for the init scripts?
[12:28] <patrick_> You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6". <-- This might be the problem...
[12:28] <patrick_> It is a mobile... Uhm, what was the name again :/
[12:28] <octan> nomadsoul yes, usaly /etc :P
[12:29] <patrick_> One sec..
[12:29] <nomadsoul> octan: tnx
[12:29] <octan> nomadsoul, or look in the init script where it looks for the config files
[12:30] <marinos> helo all
[12:31] <patrick_> Nvidia GeForce 7900 Go is the name...
[12:31] <patrick_> Hi Marinos
[12:31] <patrick_> :D
[12:32] <patrick_> Octan, could that be the prob? It is a 'go'
[12:33] <octan> is your card in this list ?
[12:33] <octan> http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
[12:34] <patrick_> GeForce Go 7900 GTX   0x0299 must be it...
[12:34] <patrick_> Yes it is in the list.
[12:34] <octan> alright
[12:34] <octan> thats good
[12:35] <kamikaze_j> alguien habla espaol?
[12:35] <patrick_> So, it should work... I am doing something wrong here.
[12:35] <patrick_> habla some English?
[12:35] <patrick_> :D
[12:35] <kamikaze_j> :D
[12:35] <Jucato> !es
[12:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:35] <patrick_> :D
[12:36] <kamikaze_j> i'm looking for a good source list in spanish
[12:36] <patrick_> Good, man... Linux for human beings, even habla Espanol... I love it.
[12:36] <patrick_> :D
[12:36] <kamikaze_j> haha
[12:37] <kamikaze_j> in kubuntu-es... bad...
[12:37] <kamikaze_j> xD
[12:40] <octan> patrick_, follow this guide
[12:40] <octan> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[12:40] <patrick_> Okay, thanks a lot!
[12:40] <octan> or http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/
[12:40] <octan> :)
[12:50] <buzzy> people i have installed soundconverter but it does not start!!! why? (i m on kubuntu and it's based on gnome: is this the problem?)
[12:53] <patrick_> Octan, you are the man! I just started with the Nvidia logo... :) Wheey!
[12:53] <MenZa> :D
[12:53] <octan> :)
[12:54] <octan> great :)
[12:54] <patrick_> Thanks a lot man!
[12:54] <octan> np
[12:54] <patrick_> I was getting worried about this problem... But that is fixed now.
[12:54] <octan> :)
[12:54] <patrick_> Only one thing remains :(
[12:54] <octan> you subwoofer ?
[12:54] <patrick_> The build in subwoofer yeah
[12:55] <patrick_> I googled it but no luck on it.
[12:55] <octan> is that using a nvidia sound card ?
[12:55] <patrick_> No, erhm...
[12:55] <patrick_> Let me see.
[12:56] <octan> hmm you got a builtin subwoofer in you pc ?
[12:56] <patrick_> Yes :D
[12:56] <octan> litteart inside the pc ?
[12:56] <octan> ohmy
[12:56] <patrick_> I have that new Dell XPS M1710 gaming laptop ;)
[12:57] <octan> you'll be gettiing a shaken hard driver after a while :P
[12:58] <patrick_> lol
[12:58] <patrick_> I have a problem, I cant find the correct info on the Dell's homepage, I will get my manual to search for the correct hardware.
[12:59] <patrick_> One sec please...
[12:59] <kamikaze_j> xgl in kubuntu?
[12:59] <octan> yes
[01:00] <octan>  #ubuntu-xgl
[01:00] <kamikaze_j> ok tanks
[01:00] <kutan> Woah there's actually an op here.
[01:00] <kutan> Never seen that before
[01:01] <kutan> Anyway
[01:01] <kutan> Can someone help me with an error I get while trying to install an application?
[01:01] <NthDegree> Hobbsee is an OP in here afaik
[01:01] <NthDegree> sure :)
[01:02] <patrick_> Hmm, nice manual... It has NO detail on what soundcard it uses... :/
[01:02] <patrick_> I'll google it.
[01:02] <octan> check this out
[01:02] <octan> http://iaindb.customer.netspace.net.au/linux-9100-audio.html
[01:02] <kutan> When I run the configure file, I get this error, "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
 I do not see any soundcard in the list that apeared after that command.
[01:06] <Hobbsee> Jucato: :P
[01:06] <Jucato> yep no Ubugtu commands :)
[01:06] <NthDegree> patrick_: look for Sound Controller
[01:06] <NthDegree> patrick_: or Multimedia
[01:07] <octan> patrick_, look for something like this
[01:07] <octan> root@Nuxil:/etc# lspci -v |grep Multimedia
[01:07] <octan> 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
[01:07] <octan> me all nvidia :)
[01:08] <patrick_> Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[01:08] <octan> yea
[01:08] <patrick_> :/ Is that it?
[01:08] <octan> yes
[01:08] <NthDegree> yes I believe so
[01:08] <patrick_> So it should work I guess...
[01:08] <octan> a inter 82801G chip
[01:08] <NthDegree> intel*
[01:09] <octan> bleh i like to type it wrong
[01:09] <octan> :P
[01:09] <octan> he a girl?
[01:10] <octan> hack into her webcam.. :P
[01:10] <kamikaze_j> :D
[01:10] <NthDegree> sometimes I just wish................ lol
[01:10] <kamikaze_j> ................
[01:10] <Hobbsee> hah
[01:10] <Hobbsee> dream on
[01:10] <Jucato> Hobbsee's definitely a she
[01:10] <patrick_> Okay, so I must search for linux installation files on this Intel soundcard... Google, here I come.
[01:10] <Jucato> a very very VERY scary "she"
[01:10] <patrick_> Or... Other tips?
[01:11] <NthDegree> I all of a sudden took interest when I worked out that fact Jucato :p
[01:11] <Jucato> lol
[01:11] <Jucato> ph34r Hobbsee's whip!
[01:12] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:12] <Jucato> aw.. she left.. :(
[01:12] <octan> patrick_, the last link i gave you?
[01:13] <octan> its the same chip
[01:14] <octan> http://iaindb.customer.netspace.net.au/linux-9100-audio.html
[01:14] <sF|Xemanth> whats the roadmap for edgy ?
[01:14] <sF|Xemanth> wheres*
[01:14] <MenZa> !roadmap
[01:14] <patrick_> Oh...
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <MenZa> hmm
[01:14] <MenZa> !schedule
[01:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:15] <NthDegree> !edgy
[01:15] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:15] <NthDegree> oops :$
[01:15] <MenZa> :d
[01:15] <MenZa> :D*
[01:16] <Jucato> MenZa: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:16] <kutan> okay the X problem is fixed
[01:16] <kutan> I have a new one now
[01:16] <sF|Xemanth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule <- this is ough
[01:16] <MenZa> Jucato: :o
[01:16] <sF|Xemanth> enough*
[01:16] <kutan> "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[01:16] <kutan> I don't know what package to install
[01:16] <Ash-Fox> NO, Not a kernel freeze
[01:17] <sF|Xemanth> i hope they don't put to final edgy 2.6.18 that would be a catastroph
[01:17] <Ash-Fox> Edgy is going to make me really happy.
[01:18] <Ash-Fox> I wonder if I should upgrade or reinstall though.
[01:18] <sF|Xemanth> edgy not doing me atm happy
[01:18] <sF|Xemanth> :|
[01:18] <Ash-Fox> Oh?
[01:18] <kutan> Anyone?
[01:19] <sF|Xemanth> kernel and string freeze was yesterday, what does that exactly mean
[01:19] <sF|Xemanth> Ash-Fox: ndiswrapper is screwing with me :| and i can't get fglrx working properly
[01:20] <patrick_> Ahyeah... look at these GL screensavers! lol
[01:20] <flake> didn't work, auto eth1 disconnected me
[01:20] <flake> on boot
[01:20] <patrick_> ...See you all again soon, thanks for the help so far. Octan, special thanks to you! Laterrr...
[01:20] <Ash-Fox> sF|Xemanth, blah :/ (thankfully I don't need either of those)
[01:21] <octan> cya
[01:27] <octan> http://album.sautret.org/800_divers/500_Linux%20Girls/lls25_Gd.jpg.29.html
[01:27] <octan> :D
[01:31] <Arlington> is it possible to disable the diskscan that is performed during startup?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> you can use the tune2fs tool to set the ## or mounts triggeed it to very high.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> or perhaps disable totally.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> I normally set it Higher, and to a different # for my differnt drives.
[01:32] <Dr_willis> that way not all get scanned at once on the 30th reboot
[01:32] <Arlington> some of my windows drives have errors that the discscaner dosn't check but states att every boot and it takes alot of time during the boot.
[01:33] <Arlington> what is tune2fs?
[01:36] <Arlington> Dr_willis: please explain!
[01:36] <Dr_willis> tune2fs  -  adjust  tunable  filesystem  parameters  on
[01:36] <Dr_willis>        ext2/ext3 filesystems
[01:36] <Dr_willis> its a command. :)
[01:37] <Dr_willis> windows drives shouldent be getting checked at all
[01:37] <chetan> hi.. i need to install a version of kubuntu for doing development work on apache modules.. can someone please suggest a version? (i'd prefer having kde 3.5.4)
[01:37] <chetan> are the beta's stable?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> check your fstab entry for them
[01:38] <marinos> join #sun
[01:38] <Arlington> how do i check my fstab entry?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> 3.5.4 is in testing. with the right repos. right now 3.5.2 is the current. , not bothered with the3.5.4  on this machine - they seemed to work. but  i dident mess with them here.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[01:38] <Dr_willis> look at /etc/fstab file
[01:39] <Dr_willis> mine (for ntfs) -->  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:41] <rampage>  how to run i386 package on x64 machine i have havin an error
[01:41] <rampage>  plz help
[01:41] <rampage>  bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:42] <rampage>  command = dpkg --force-architecture<op.deb>
[01:42] <Arlington> rampage:  there is a guide on the net dunno where exactly. it would be easier to download the 386 version of kubuntu though. no need to use x64 version when there is virtually no software for it...
[01:43] <rampage>  i downloaded opera i386
[01:43] <rampage>  but cant install it
[01:43] <rampage>  havin syntax error
[01:43] <rampage>  plz read above to see error
[01:44] <octan> rampage, opera? it suxz. get firefox 2 beta instead :)
[01:44] <rampage>  still i want to learn to install i386 package
[01:44] <Arlington> search the kubuntu forums!
[01:45] <Arlington> !kubuntuforums
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntuforums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <Dr_willis> You want to run 32bit programs/packages on a 64bit ubuntu install?
[01:46] <rampage>  yea
[01:47] <rampage>  i386 opera on x64 machine and os ^_^
[01:48] <wildchild> !IDE
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IDE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <Dr_willis> ya got to do some chrooting for that to work
[01:49] <Dr_willis> or jailing.. i forget :P
[01:49] <octan> dchroot :P
[01:49] <Dr_willis> I always just run 32bit disrtos
[01:50] <octan> yaya
[01:50] <octan> netsplit
[01:50] <davelondon> hi all, as anyone got the openberg ebook extension to work in firefox
[01:50] <octan> rampage,
[01:50] <octan> you say your on a 64 bit system ? right?
[01:50] <octan> rampage, ?
[01:51] <davelondon> hi all, as anyone got the openberg ebook extension to work in firefox
[01:51] <octan> rampage, ?
[01:51] <octan> rampage, 64 bit you have?
[01:53] <rampage> yea
[01:53] <octan> rampage, if your on a 64 bit system all you need to do is install this stuff
[01:53] <octan> and you dont have to jail to 32 bit system
[01:53] <octan> ia32-libs
[01:53] <rampage>  @octan i have 64 machine
[01:53] <octan> linux32
[01:53] <rampage>  i have to download and install it
[01:54] <rampage>  thses 2 ia32-libs and linux32
[01:54] <rampage>  ??
[01:54] <octan> alright
[01:54] <octan> i have moe
[01:54] <octan> and i tryed the opera i386 file
[01:54] <octan> and it works here
[01:54] <rampage> how
[01:54] <rampage> tell me
[01:55] <octan> try install this stuff
[01:55] <bobesponja> hey
[01:55] <octan> libc6-i386
[01:55] <rampage> ...
[01:55] <rampage> ok
[01:55] <rampage> i am on it
[01:56] <octan> lib32z1
[01:56] <octan> lib32stdc++6
[01:56] <octan> lib32objc1
[01:56] <rampage> i am on it
[01:57] <octan> (lib32gfortan) maybe,, i got it installed
[01:57] <octan> **lib32gfortan0
[01:57] <octan> lib32gcj6
[01:57] <octan> lib32gcc1
[01:58] <octan> lib32g2c0
[01:58] <|mikael|> test
[01:58] <octan> lib32-libs-sdl
[01:59] <octan> i got some few more .. but thats like java and other stuff
[01:59] <davelondon> ok anyone know a good ebook reader
[02:01] <abattoir> davelondon: what sort of ebooks? pdf? chm?
[02:01] <octan> ia32-libs-gtk
[02:02] <rampage> cannot find  lib32-libs-sdl @ octan
[02:02] <octan> oh
[02:03] <davelondon> abattoir, I get a bit confused with the ebook stuff, I have openberg for firefox, but if its pdf or text you can use konquror or a text editor-what's the ebook reader do?
[02:03] <rampage> **lib32gfortan0 and these to @octan
[02:03] <abattoir> davelondon: now you are confusing me ;)
[02:03] <octan> lib32gfortan0
[02:04] <octan> and ia32-libs-sdl
[02:04] <rampage> nope i cant find them
[02:04] <abattoir> davelondon: if you are looking for a multi-format reader, i'm not aware of one(there will be okular for KDE4, but nothing i know of for KDE3)
[02:04] <rampage> @octan
[02:04] <octan> hmm
[02:04] <octan> your missing a repo?
[02:05] <octan> hmm
[02:05] <octan> pt-cache show ia32-libs-sdl
[02:05] <rampage> i cant find ia32-libs-sdl
[02:05] <octan> Package: ia32-libs-sdl
[02:05] <octan> Priority: optional
[02:05] <octan> Section: universe/libs
[02:05] <davelondon> abattoir, I have pdf and text ebooks but what use is an ebook reader if other apps read them all ready?-I have the openberg ebook extension for firefox and it won't load any ebooks I have tried
[02:05] <octan> its in universe
[02:05] <octan> rampage, are you shure you typing it correctly ?
[02:05] <octan> o*sure
[02:05] <rampage> yup
[02:05] <abattoir> davelondon: aah, for that i think you'd need to ask the author of the extension ;) (unless i still am not getting what you mean)
[02:06] <rampage> cutting
[02:06] <rampage> paste
[02:06] <octan> ok.. i'll paste my source.list in your pm ?
[02:06] <octan> your missing a repo.--
[02:06] <rampage> ok plz
[02:07] <octan> rampage have you registrert you nick name?
[02:07] <davelondon> abattoir, I'm just puzzled as to why use an ebook client when pdf & txt can be read in standard apps and I'm emailing the openberg developer as even their testbook will not load
[02:07] <octan>  rampage in xchat do.. /msg NickServ REGISTER
[02:08] <rampage> ok
[02:09] <abattoir> davelondon: ok, i get it, but there are different formats in which ebooks are distributed, so an ideal 'ebook reader' would be expected to read the majority of those formats, but i guess, its best to ask the devs ;)
[02:09] <raul12> ok
[02:09] <raul12> yup i am there
[02:09] <octan> raul12, ok
[02:09] <raul12> i can see u octane
[02:10] <raul12> but i cant message
[02:11] <octan> did you see my flood now?
[02:11] <raul12> ok
[02:12] <raul12> yup
[02:12] <raul12> why cant i pm u ??
[02:12] <octan> ? i dont know
[02:12] <octan> did you see my text
[02:13] <BuZzY> i have installed lame (by apt-get) but is not latest version, how can i get it to latest one?
[02:16] <raul12> YUP
[02:16] <raul12> I DID
[02:16] <raul12> @OCTAN
[02:19] <ccc> raul12: you have to register to send pms
[02:20] <raul12> yup
[02:20] <raul12> i think
[02:20] <ccc> raul12: /msg nickserv help register
[02:20] <raul12> i couldnt pm
[02:21] <raul12> can any 1 pm plz i want see if my pm works
[02:22] <raul12> 505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[02:22] <raul12> these is popping up
[02:22] <Arepie> how can i check what was my cd rom was?? ls cd ?
[02:22] <ccc> raul12: yes. like i said, you have to register. that's exactly what it says too.
[02:25] <mhterres> hey guys
[02:26] <mhterres> 2 friends of mine have a problem with KDE 3.5.4 from Kubuntu packages
[02:26] <mhterres> since they upgrade their laptops, everytime they boot the system, the KDE wizard opens
[02:27] <mhterres> how can we stop that ???
[02:27] <mhterres> :-)
[02:27] <mhterres> it's very annoying
[02:27] <octan> ahah
[02:27] <octan> i know
[02:28] <mhterres> any ideas ?
[02:28] <octan> yes
[02:28] <octan> you need to edit this file
[02:28] <BuZzY> how can i get the codec of an audi o file?
[02:28] <BuZzY> how can i get the codec of an audi o file?
[02:28] <octan> ~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc
[02:28] <octan> put this at the bottom
[02:29] <octan> [General]
[02:29] <octan> FirstLogin=false
[02:29] <mhterres> hmmm, ok
[02:29] <mhterres> it's a bug in the packages ???
[02:29] <octan> its a known bug
[02:30] <mhterres> hmmmmmm
[02:30] <mhterres> but it not happens in all machines
[02:30] <octan> mhterres, dont worry about tit
[02:30] <mhterres> octan: no, I'm not worry, just curious
[02:30] <KDEfanboy> BuZzY: mplayer -identify -frames 0 FILENAME 2>&1 | grep CODEC
[02:31] <octan> just do as i tell you and you get rid of it :P
[02:32] <KDEfanboy> mplyaer docs should match codec aliases to type, #mplayer
[02:32] <BuZzY> KDEfanboy, "mad"
[02:32] <BuZzY> u know it?
[02:33] <hyper> hiya, does kubuntu edgy install a firewall by default or block ports?
[02:34] <octan> hyper just therst that
[02:34] <octan> iptables -L -v -n
[02:34] <octan> see what it says
[02:34] <octan> *test
[02:34] <KDEfanboy> BuZzY: think it's http://www.underbit.com/products/mad/ . play the file with mplayer from the console to quickly see which type
[02:34] <mhterres> octan: thanks, I'll try :-D
[02:34] <raul12>  @octan how do u know what lib files needed for installing i386 software ??
[02:34] <hyper> octan: Just returns a bunch of errors :)
[02:35] <raul12>  is there some kind of command ??
[02:35] <hyper> octan: had to run it as sudo ^^
[02:35] <octan> raul12, i dont remember
[02:35] <octan> hybrid_, offcource
[02:35] <raul12>  i386 opera
[02:36] <raul12>  x64 machine
[02:36] <raul12>  remember ??
[02:36] <hyper> octan:  http://www.phpfi.com/160814
[02:36] <pwnbre> hello
[02:36] <octan> raul12, let me send you something
[02:36] <raul12> ok
[02:36] <pwnbre> anyone that're swedish in here?
[02:36] <octan> hyper, you got no firewall :P
[02:36] <octan> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 5 packets, 233 bytes)
[02:37] <hyper> octan: What might then be the reason that I can't ssh into my computer from another one?
[02:37] <raul12>  any good fire wall 4 linux ??
[02:37] <Chousuke> iptables :)
[02:37] <octan> hyper ssh is not installed :P or configured
[02:38] <octan> raul12, yea your head :P and build one with ipttables
[02:38] <raul12>  any good fire wall 4 linux ??
[02:38] <Chousuke> raul12: I already answered ;P
[02:38] <Chousuke> raul12: It's pretty difficult to configure though. You had better download some configuration utility for it like Firestarter.
[02:38] <octan> bleh
[02:39] <octan> raul12, accept my file transfere
[02:39] <raul12> ok
[02:39] <raul12> i did
[02:39] <raul12> @octan
[02:39] <octan> its just waiting here
[02:39] <hyper> octan: I can on my computer ssh in my computer:   ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>that works... btw, for my network setup.   http://www.phpfi.com/160817
[02:39] <raul12> plz resend
[02:40] <raul12> @octan
[02:40] <raul12> i have opera.tar.zip
[02:40] <raul12> file
[02:40] <octan> hyper, check that the sshd deamon is running on the other machine
[02:40] <raul12> @octan
[02:41] <octan> raul12 wait.. i'll put it on my ftp
[02:41] <raul12> i have these filke
[02:41] <raul12> i have opera
[02:41] <raul12> tar.zip
[02:41] <hyper> octan: the other machine is a winxp machine at work and I used putty there... I can use putty to connect to my rented webserver or other computers... but not to this one somehow...
[02:42] <octan> raul12, did you see my text in pm?
[02:42] <raul12> yea
[02:42] <octan> hyper, i dont know much about windows sorry
[02:43] <raul12> @octan plz send  lib32gfortan0
[02:43] <raul12> i have opera.tar.zip file which u send me
[02:44] <hyper> octan: Well, with putty I can connect to other servers/computers by ssh so it should work fine from there...
[02:44] <octan> raul12, extract it
[02:44] <hyper> octan: is only port 22 (tcp) used for ssh or do I need to forward also another one?
[02:44] <raul12>  did
[02:44] <octan> hyper, wait a bit
[02:44] <octan> raul12, open cli
[02:44] <raul12>  i also intalled it but no opera executables
[02:44] <octan> cd /path/to/opera
[02:45] <octan> the file you extracted
[02:45] <raul12>  y
[02:45] <octan> cd bin
[02:45] <hyper> *reboot*
[02:45] <octan> now
[02:45] <octan> what does ./opera say
[02:45] <octan> maybe you need to chmod 755 opera
[02:45] <octan> then ./opera
[02:46] <raul12>  where type that
[02:46] <raul12>  in bin folder
[02:46] <octan> open konsole
[02:46] <raul12>  y
[02:46] <octan> and cd to opera
[02:46] <raul12>  opned
[02:46] <octan> you see bin dir?
[02:46] <octan> cd bin
[02:47] <raul12>  w8
[02:49] <th0rben> does anyone know how to access arbitrary disc partitions via the system:/media URI? in particular, i want to be able to control lvm volumes via konqueror
[02:49] <raul12>  yea i see
[02:49] <raul12>  then what
[02:49] <octan> chmod 755 opera
[02:49] <octan> ./opera
[02:49] <octan> what does it do?
[02:50] <Chousuke> Why are you installing opera like that? There's a Debian package that works :/
[02:50] <raul12>  error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:50] <hyper> octan: back again
[02:50] <raul12> @octan
[02:50] <octan> raul12, ok you see what you are missing now,, go install it
[02:51] <raul12> ok
[02:52] <octan> hybrid_, sorry.. i dont know how you connect from linux ssh to windows putty ssh.. i dont mess with windows anymore :P thouse that are long gone :)
[02:53] <octan> Chousuke yes but he could not get it to work..
[02:53] <hyper> octan: No, I want to connect from putty (windows ssh client) to my computer but my computer refuses everything... could you try whether you actually get to the password screen?
[02:54] <octan> hybrid_, is this ps behind a firewall ?
[02:54] <raul12> libqt-mt.so.3 cant find these file
[02:54] <octan> gt
[02:54] <octan> gt3
[02:54] <octan> erm
[02:54] <octan> qt3 stuff
[02:54] <raul12>  libqt-mt.so.3
[02:55] <KDEfanboy> !qt
[02:55] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[02:55] <_lapset_>
[02:55] <hyper> octan: we just looked before and you said there is no firewall... and I didn't install anything else
[02:55] <_lapset_> she gay
[02:55] <mhterres> octan: Works !!!! Thanks !!!
[02:55] <octan> np
[02:55] <raul12>  plz help i cant find  libqt-mt.so.3
[02:56] <octan> raul12, libqt-mt
[02:56] <octan> erm
[02:56] <t_> oottte kaiikki ihan vitun homo
[02:56] <octan> raul12, libqt3-mt
[02:56] <raul12>  for then .so.3 stand ???
[02:56] <octan> dont look at that
[02:56] <octan> look at the main name
[02:57] <octan> hybrid_, be sure the sshd deamon is running
[02:57] <sF|Xemanth> lol t_
[02:57] <octan> ssh client != server
[02:57] <raul12>  well i have it still can install opera
[02:57] <hyper> octan: on my computer I can login myself through ssh "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but when I try from outside it won't work
[02:58] <octan> ssh = clent side.. sshd = server side :P
[02:58] <raul12>  @octan
[02:58] <octan> hmm
[02:58] <hyper> hyper@hyper-linux:~$ ps aux | grep sshd
[02:58] <hyper> root      4631  0.0  0.1   4944  1052 ?        Ss   14:48   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[02:59] <octan> are you trying to log in as root? maybe you disables that
[02:59] <raul12>  well i cant install opera
[02:59] <hyper> octan: well, I don't even get a message from outside... just a time out
[03:00] <octan> hybrid_, is this pc behind a router ?
[03:00] <hyper> octan: same goes for ftp.... however   http works
[03:00] <hyper> octan: it's behind a router
[03:00] <octan> aha
[03:00] <hyper> octan: here's the info.   http://www.phpfi.com/160817
[03:00] <octan> well you need to forward on the router in that case
[03:01] <octan> hybrid_, is it a linux router ?
[03:01] <hyper> octan: No, it's not
[03:01] <raul12>  @octan i cant install opera
[03:01] <octan> anyway. you meed to setup forwad on the router
[03:01] <raul12>  the lib file is already installed
[03:01] <hyper> however ftp port forwarding while I still had windows here worked fine... now it refuses to do that... however port 80 works just fine
[03:02] <hyper> octan: have a look at that url I send you.. it's a pastebin.... there you see the port forwards
[03:02] <octan> ok
[03:02] <hyper> http://www.phpfi.com/160817
[03:03] <octan> thats on the linux box right?
[03:03] <octan> or router
[03:03] <hyper> octan: the ifconfig info is my linux box
[03:03] <hyper> octan: the second thing is the port forwarding on the router
[03:04] <octan> well.. as i said.. you need to forward on the router
[03:04] <hyper> octan: the third thing is that the no-ip.com service forwards to my correct public IP
[03:04] <hyper> octan: but it is forwarded on the router:  2.  22                22       <IP_ADDRESS>         UDP
[03:04] <hyper> oh, it's only udp
[03:05] <hyper> octan: 22 TCP is required, right? are any other port required for ssh?
[03:05] <octan> you need to tell the router to tell what port 22 to go to on your lan
[03:07] <octan> hybrid_, you can setup sshd to use any port you like
[03:07] <hyper> octan: I setup the forwardin on 22 UDP and not TCP
[03:07] <hyper> :)
[03:08] <octan> tcp man tcp
[03:09] <octan> hybrid_, life is so much simpler with a linux box as the router :)
[03:09] <hyper> octan: stupid me ^^ btw, is 22 tcp enough for ssh?
[03:09] <hyper> octan: well, no $$$ to buy one
[03:09] <octan> hybrid_, you only need like a p3 machine
[03:09] <octan> with 3 or 4 nics
[03:09] <hyper> well, can't afford that
[03:10] <hyper> at least not for the next half year
[03:10] <hyper> :(
[03:10] <octan>  hype make a sheme of you network
[03:11] <octan> hyper,
[03:11] <hyper_> back again :)
[03:11] <octan> make a sheme of you network
[03:11] <octan> like on my server it looks like this
[03:11] <octan> LAN:<IP_ADDRESS> <--> eth0(ip:<IP_ADDRESS>)-| <-- nat --> eth2 <--> (Internet)
[03:11] <octan> LAN:<IP_ADDRESS> <--> eth1(ip:<IP_ADDRESS>)-|
[03:11] <octan> it make things easyer
[03:12] <hyper_> ok :) thx
[03:12] <raul12>  well where can i download ip tables
[03:12] <octan> raul12, you already got it
[03:13] <octan> sudo iptables -L -v -n
[03:13] <bluch> !amsn
[03:13] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[03:13] <octan> hyper, also check the routing table
[03:14] <octan> route
[03:14] <octan> Kernel IP routing table
[03:14] <octan> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[03:14] <octan> <IP_ADDRESS> *               <IP_ADDRESS> U     0      0        0 eth2
[03:14] <octan> <IP_ADDRESS>     *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth1
[03:14] <octan> <IP_ADDRESS>     *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[03:14] <octan> <IP_ADDRESS>     *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[03:14] <octan> <IP_ADDRESS>     *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth1
[03:14] <octan> default         skjervoy1-129.d <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth2
[03:14] <octan>  ;) yaya
[03:14] <raul12> libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[03:14] <raul12> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.s
[03:15] <boguh> which window decoration does kubuntu use as default?
[03:15] <raul12> libjvm.so  libawt.so files
[03:15] <raul12> plz help
[03:15] <octan> still opera?
[03:15] <raul12> my opera wont install or run
[03:15] <raul12> yup
[03:15] <raul12> ^_^
[03:15] <octan> open synaptic
[03:15] <raul12> i am on kde
[03:15] <v3ctor> open adept
[03:15] <octan> and install everything that has a extention of 32
[03:16] <octan> *32
[03:16] <octan> 32*
[03:16] <raul12> ok
[03:16] <octan> synaptic is better that adept
[03:16] <octan> adept suxz
[03:16] <octan> its buggy
[03:16] <v3ctor> they both sux
[03:16] <raul12> so will i install synaptic
[03:16] <v3ctor> use aptitude
[03:16] <octan> well adept suxz more
[03:17] <raul12> aptitude some kind of package manager ??
[03:17] <hyper_> octan: why is synaptic better?
[03:17] <octan> v3ctor, if you install java with adept.. or flash.. good look :P cos you need to hit enter on some licence shit,, adpet doesnt allow you to do that,, synaptic does..
[03:17] <octan> and offcource apt-get install
[03:17] <v3ctor> aptitude (8)         - high-level interface to the package manager
[03:18] <v3ctor> octan: i don't use it...so no worries ;)
[03:18] <hyper_> octan: I did install java through adpet... and worked fine (after pressing the TAB) to be able to "press" Enter
[03:19] <raul12> i install java manually ^_^
[03:19] <raul12> lol
[03:19] <raul12> far better
[03:19] <Kubu> hi
[03:20] <raul12> @octan i cant find anything on *32 or 32*
[03:20] <raul12> @octan ???
[03:20] <octan> not i meant everything that has 32 in it
[03:21] <octan> beginning with or ends with
[03:21] <octan> or has lib32 in it
[03:21] <octan> raul12, i got abot everything installed :P
[03:22] <raul12> hmm
[03:22] <octan> it just works :P are you on amd 64 or intel 64 ?
[03:24] <raul12> amd64
[03:24] <raul12> and u ?
[03:25] <octan> amd64
[03:25] <raul12> amd far better
[03:25] <raul12> than intel
[03:26] <octan> i like to belive that too,, but its not the case with the new intel cup :(
[03:26] <octan> *cpu
[03:26] <raul12> i know
[03:26] <v3ctor> come back and talk when they have 8core chips out
[03:26] <raul12> amd will have solution
[03:26] <raul12> dun worry
[03:26] <octan> i dont.
[03:27] <raul12> ans their will be better than intel
[03:27] <octan> lets hope so. :)
[03:27] <raul12> ^_^
[03:27] <raul12> ok if prb comes in opera installation i will be BACK
[03:27] <raul12> ^_^
[03:37] <soulrider> !mount iso
[03:37] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB
[03:37] <soulrider> uhm
[03:37] <soulrider> !wiki
[03:37] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:39] <Hyper> !ubotu
[03:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:40] <buz> my samba is extra ordinarily slow
[03:40] <buz> copying files from an smbfs mount is about 1/3 of the speed i get with scp
[03:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[03:48] <wildchild> is it possible to format windows89 FAT32 partition ?
[03:48] <wildchild> windows98
[03:48] <wildchild> and how do I do that
[03:49] <octan> yes
[03:49] <octan> wildchild, you mean format it to fat32 ?
[03:50] <wildchild> well on HD is allready windows 98
[03:50] <wildchild> so it's FAT32
[03:50] <wildchild> and I wanna format it in to fat32
[03:50] <aftertaf> difference, apart from CAPS, being???
[03:50] <octan> mkfs.vfat /dev/hdx
[03:50] <gpeek> well, its possible to do mkfs.msdos
[03:50] <gpeek> or mkfs.vfat
[03:50] <octan> ;)
[03:51] <wildchild> so firs I have to put disk into my PC
[03:51] <octan> lol
[03:51] <Nick_> Hi all. Trying to setup NAT on my box but it's not natting the IP. It's forwarding the IP as tho it's bridged.
[03:51] <wildchild> and somehow mount dhis new disk
[03:51] <octan> i hope not that was a question
[03:51] <aftertaf> lol me2
[03:51] <wildchild> no it wasnt
[03:51] <wildchild> :)
[03:52] <Hyper> can Amarok actually stream the music it's playing?
[03:52] <octan> yes
[03:52] <Hyper> octan: nice :)
[03:52] <octan> Nick_, pherhaps i can help you
[03:52] <octan> i do exactly that
[03:53] <octan> masquerade ?
[03:53] <octan> iptables -t nat POSTROUTING -i ${UPLINK} -j MASQUERADE
[03:54] <HippyJim> hi all - anyone help a noob who can't login?
[03:54] <tomaz> hum?
[03:54] <tomaz> cant login?
[03:55] <tomaz> o.O"
[03:55] <tomaz> have you forgot your password?
[03:55] <octan> then setup a route table if you got more than 1 nic. and set the gateway's IP on the lan same as ip of bridge
[03:55] <HippyJim> not quite - using kubuntu breezy and when i enter password,screen ges black, then login screen comes up again
[03:55] <octan> Nick_, are you following ?
[03:56] <BluesKaj> wildchild, why do you want to reformat the windows 98 partition , it already is a FAT32 file system ?
[03:56] <octan> yahooo.. a big netsplit
[03:56] <BluesKaj> splittsville!
[03:57] <BluesKaj> wildchild, why do you want to reformat the windows 98 partition ? It already is a FAT32 file system .
[03:57] <octan> wildchild, yes? just delete everything on it
[03:57] <octan> delete c:/* or whatever it uses
[03:58] <octan> been years since i was in windows
[03:59] <octan> wb guys :P
[04:00] <BluesKaj> i get the impression wildchild wants to keep windows and setup a dualboot windows/linux system.
[04:00] <octan> screw windows
[04:00] <octan> more
[04:00] <doczico> waouhhhhh
[04:00] <Jucato> wb to the netsplitters
[04:00] <BluesKaj> wow...wtf is with this server ?
[04:00] <octan> damn about 1/2 the netwrok was down
[04:01] <Jucato> nah it's a common thing on IRC..
[04:01] <gpeek> why?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> my audio hobby network is down as well
[04:01] <octan> yea
[04:01] <doczico> somebody have amarok collection working ? i've a taglib error
[04:01] <BluesKaj> not mine but my fav
[04:02] <doczico> and dont find how to get it working :/
[04:02] <aftertaf> which version of amarok?
[04:02] <HippyJim> so, "community support" only applies to people who are "in"? i did an update, my system broke, i spent the last hour chasing round the net, the forums are down, and everyone in irc ignores me or takes the mickey. yup - ubuntu is ready for the desktop. thank god my wife's not here
[04:03] <zam> hi all
[04:03] <aftertaf> lol jim
[04:03] <Jucato> hm... wow
[04:03] <Nick_> Hey octan U said u may be able to help me?
[04:03] <doczico> aftertaf: lastone , 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu9
[04:03] <gpeek> why didnt' jim just post his question? Would have helped
[04:03] <BluesKaj> why didn't hippyjim just ask his question instead of complaining :)
[04:03] <octan> Nick_, yes maybe
[04:03] <Jucato> "I'm asking for free, volunteer support, and since you can't give it to me during the time that I demand it, you all suck..." ???
[04:04] <Tm_T> Jucato: smells like it
[04:04] <zam> i cant run any video using kaffeine case i need win32 codecs and libdvdcss how to install them ?
[04:04] <Jucato> oh well. :)
[04:04] <aftertaf> kde 354 353 ?
[04:04] <aftertaf> doczico: ^^^
[04:04] <Tm_T> Jucato: aye, he'll learn
[04:04] <octan> Nick_, you need to tell me about your setup
[04:05] <octan> im no mindreader
[04:05] <aftertaf> !restricted
[04:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:05] <aftertaf> zam: ^^^^^^^^
[04:05] <Nick_> zam: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[04:05] <Jucato> zam: you might want to look into the RestrictedFormats page linked above
[04:06] <Cyraq> is the beta way buggy, or is it usable?
[04:06] <aftertaf> Cyraq: rockin' :)
[04:06] <v3ctor> Cyraq: it is not too bad
[04:06] <gpeek> Cyraq: not many problems for me so far
[04:06] <doczico> aftertaf: 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu28
[04:06] <Cyraq> oh well.
[04:06] <Jucato> Cyraq: a bit usable. but there might still be some changes along the way until the final release
[04:06] <aftertaf> doczico: hmm me too. upping  to 353 now.
[04:06] <Cyraq> yay, 15kbps -_-
[04:06] <aftertaf> and amarok works fine
[04:07] <aftertaf> kde working great since edgy....
[04:07] <doczico> aftertaf: juste go back to kde 3.5.3 ?
[04:07] <aftertaf> nah. meant 3.5.5 :)
[04:07] <aftertaf> dorry
[04:07] <Jucato> Cyraq: well you better learn to wait a bit more :)
[04:07] <aftertaf> sorry
[04:07] <doczico> aftertaf: i've just installed kubuntu yesterday with the eggy 6.10 beta install cd
[04:07] <aftertaf> jeez im bad on keyboard today
[04:07] <Cyraq> eggy?
[04:08] <aftertaf> doczico: ahh. ive upgraded each time since hoary
[04:08] <tomaz> doc, the edgy is usable at this point?
[04:08] <tomaz> i'm willing to install here
[04:08] <aftertaf> doczico: have u updated since the cd install?
[04:08] <Cyraq> tomaz: so they say
[04:08] <doczico> aftertaf: how to get 3.5.5 ?? i dont have it in repository i think
[04:08] <Jucato> well there's a difference between "usable" and "completely stable"
[04:08] <aftertaf> true ^
[04:08] <Jucato> doczico: it's not available officially just yet
[04:08] <Jucato> heck it's not even officially released from KDE afaik
[04:08] <aftertaf> doczico: kubuntu.org packages....
[04:09] <Jucato> 3.5.5?
[04:09] <aftertaf> beta
[04:09] <BluesKaj> once kubuntu 6.10 is on official release , what's it going to be named ?
[04:09] <Jucato> BluesKaj: Kubuntu 6.10 :D
[04:09] <BluesKaj> ;0
[04:09] <doczico> aftertaf: which pkg are you using for kde ? kdebase-bin ?
[04:09] <aftertaf> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main
[04:09] <BluesKaj> ok what nick will it have ?
[04:09] <aftertaf> i was on deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ dapper main
[04:09] <s-toned> Since my upgrade from breezy to dapper I've got problems with X: mga (and mga from Matrox too) won't work anymore, only vesa. Any hints?
[04:09] <Jucato> aftertaf: that's for Edgy. don't give it away for Dapper
[04:09] <doczico> so ok , no officilly , but on wich repository can i get it ?
[04:10] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it's already called Edgy Eft
[04:10] <tomaz> because the 3.5.5 is not ready yet
[04:10] <Nick_> octan, I have this box which need's to nat the network here to the wi-fi network which is on a bridge off a different nic on this machine. This box is letting other pc's on this network access the wifi without having a masqurading rule in iptables. But the access it get's is as tho it's on the wi-fi network. If I connect to a box on the wi-fi it see's the network IP (<IP_ADDRESS>) instead of the IP of the server's wi-fi nic (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[04:10] <doczico> yeah thx aftertaf :)
[04:10] <aftertaf> Jucato: which one? the kde-latest?
[04:10] <Jucato> aftertaf: KDE 3.5.5
[04:10] <tomaz> kde 3.5.5 is not ready
[04:10] <tomaz> is not even released
[04:10] <tomaz> =/
[04:10] <Jucato> it's not even officially out from KDE
[04:10] <aftertaf> he's on edgy
[04:11] <doczico> aftertaf: so i use the first one ?
[04:11] <Jucato> it's meant to be for testing
[04:11] <Jucato> even on Edgy it's not yet an official release
[04:11] <aftertaf> doczico: no use the 2nd one
[04:11] <doczico> ok but aftertaf you problem was the collection ? or just lauching amarok ?
[04:11] <Nick_> octan, It's as tho the connection is bridged instead of nat'ed
[04:11] <doczico> ok thx
[04:12] <Jucato> btw, the kde-latest in Dapper is still KDE 3.5.4
[04:12] <aftertaf> doczico: i never had a pb with amarok..... :)
[04:13] <aftertaf> Jucato: and for edgy it dont exist, right?
[04:13] <aftertaf> is 3.5.5 that unsure right now?
[04:13] <Jucato> aftertaf: yes. it's not even released yet
[04:14] <Jucato> it's there for testing purposes only.
[04:14] <doczico> so i ve problem with taglib in amarok .... i dont think to upgrade kde wil change anithing ...
[04:14] <doczico> anything
[04:14] <aftertaf> yeah i know..... but thats never worried me that much... if it breaks i load enlightenment :)
[04:14] <Jucato> doczico: what version of Amarok and KDE are you using?
[04:14] <doczico> i just want to build a collection with amarok ....
[04:14] <aftertaf> plus itll be out stale soon... they always release just after kubuntu 6 month.
[04:14] <Jucato> aftertaf: the problem is that it *might* worry others :)
[04:15] <doczico> amarok : 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu9 kde : 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu28
[04:15] <aftertaf> true.... i didnt realise it was still SO testing actually. I stopped my apt-gettage :)
[04:15] <octan> Nick_, i think you just can use route here
[04:15] <Jucato> doczico: please check if the dapper-backports repository is enabled. if it isn't, enable it then update
[04:16] <aftertaf> doczico: i have those same versions and its fine here :/
[04:16] <octan> route add -net IP netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev XXX the bridges
[04:16] <doczico> wich version of taglib did you use ?
[04:16] <octan> on both sides
[04:17] <aftertaf> 1.4-4
[04:17] <doczico> ok jucato i'll test that
[04:18] <octan> Nick_, come to #octans
[04:18] <Jucato> I have libtag1c2a
[04:19] <doczico> Jucato: wich version ?
[04:19] <doczico> i've test to enable backports , but nothing to upgrade ....
[04:19] <Jucato> doczico: 1.4-4 from kubuntu.org repos.
[04:20] <Jucato> what's the exact error message that you get?
[04:22] <doczico> amarok stop building collection too much taglib errors ....
[04:22] <Jucato> hm...
[04:22] <doczico> and a list of mp3 and other files ...
[04:22] <Jucato> I think I've heard of that error before... let me try to recall
[04:23] <doczico> that would be great Jucato :D
[04:27] <tonky> hi
[04:27] <Jucato> doczico: what version of amarok again? (exact version?)
[04:27] <tonky> kann man kubuntu irgendwie ber die konsole installieren? dieser grafische mll lsst mich die platte nicht manuell bearbeiten
[04:28] <tonky> oh english, sorry
[04:28] <tonky> is it possible to install kubuntu via the console?
[04:28] <doczico> amarok : 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu9 kde : 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu28
[04:28] <doczico> tonky: what did you mean via the console ?
[04:29] <Jucato> doczico: where did you get that amarok version?
[04:29] <v3ctor> connected via serial
[04:29] <tonky> i booted the install cd into kde but the install app will not let me pertition my hdd as i want
[04:29] <oheard> tonky: try the alternate install CD, I think that uses the old ncurses installer.
[04:29] <v3ctor> headless install
[04:29] <doczico> Jucato: i've just installer kubuntu eggy 6.10 beta yesterday
[04:29] <tonky> hmm i don't have tme to download the alternate install cd
[04:29] <doczico> i think there ...
[04:29] <Jucato> doczico: oh you're on edgy... great... @_@
[04:29] <doczico> i used it
[04:30] <doczico> yes it is ncurses ...
[04:30] <oheard> tonky: partition your drives with a different program?
[04:30] <tonky> i can just delete the whole hdd....
[04:30] <Jucato> sorry I'm on Dapper :(
[04:30] <v3ctor> tonky: try using fdisk
[04:30] <doczico> Jucato: what's that smile ? good or bad ?
[04:30] <Jucato> bad
[04:30] <oheard> tonky: try the gparted livecd, it's only a few megs to download
[04:30] <doczico> niarf :/
[04:31] <tonky> i thought that here is a nongraphical installtool on the cd
[04:31] <doczico> Jucato: do you think i can downgrade trough the dapper version of amarok and taglib ?
[04:31] <Jucato> tonky: not on the Desktop CD
[04:31] <Jucato> doczico: probably not? I'm not exactly sure though
[04:31] <tonky> ok thank you very much im going to download the alternate cd... bye
[04:32] <v3ctor> the install cd does not have fsidk?
[04:32] <v3ctor> fdisk*
[04:32] <Jucato> it does.
[04:32] <doczico> ho seriously that sucks ..... gentooo powahhhhh
[04:32] <Jucato> it doesn't have a text based installer though
[04:32] <Jucato> doczico: I'm not (yet) familiar enough with edgy
[04:33] <v3ctor> you could use nongraphical parttiton toll then have installer leave parttitons as they are
[04:33] <doczico> i understand , no probleme
[04:34] <doczico> just i want my fucking amarok collection backkkkk
[04:34] <doczico> loooooooooool
[04:35] <BluesKaj> doczico.hewre is a list of reositories that you can add to your sources list to get the latest amarok offering  http://pastebin.ca/193034
[04:35] <BluesKaj> err repositories
[04:35] <Jucato> BluesKaj: he's having problems with the latest amarok update on Edgy
[04:36] <BluesKaj> ok , err sorry i couldn't help :(
[04:36] <Jucato> doczico: I'll it on vmware...
[04:38] <doczico> thx BluesKaj :) i'll test
[04:38] <BluesKaj> it's for dapper , doczico
[04:38] <oheard> Edgy isn't released yet.
[04:38] <doczico> arf ...
[04:38] <doczico> i've read , but after my reply ;p
[04:38] <Jucato> oheard: not the stable release. but beta has been released
[04:39] <oheard> I know.
[04:39] <oheard> :-)
[04:39] <BluesKaj> the stable release is supposed to be out on Oct 26
[04:39] <Jucato> what drink?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> too early for a drink here
[04:40] <Jucato> too late for one here
[04:40] <BluesKaj> hehe
[04:40] <BluesKaj> never too late , just early
[04:40] <Jucato> hah...
[04:41] <doczico> dooohh 20 days :/
[04:45] <Jucato> doczico: that's strange... I can still build collections in Edgy using that exact same version of amarok
[04:46] <BluesKaj> amarock is amarock i guess
[04:46] <BluesKaj> err amarok
[04:48] <doczico> yes but i'm think that come from my files ... but why ? i juste installed kubuntu in place of gentoo ... that's the same partition ...
[04:49] <Jucato> doczico: try switching what database you are using? from SQLite to MySQL?
[04:49] <doczico> mysql
[04:49] <BluesKaj> just heard reports of several irc nets being down this morn ....wonder what's happening...major denial of service attacks ?
[04:51] <bluch> !vlan
[04:51] <ubotu> vlan: user mode programs to enable VLANs on your ethernet devices. In component main, is extra. Version 1.9-1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 132 kB
[04:56] <det_> where do i get a decent video player and preferably loads of codecs. i would like to use adept, but i fear this might end in some self-compiled mplayer
[04:57] <BluesKaj> what's wrong with mplayer ?
[04:57] <Jucato> decent player = Kaffeine. loads of codecs = libxine-extracodecs + w32codecs
[04:57] <Jucato> a good player would be VLC or MPlayer
[04:57] <det_> with the standard installation, i can only play mpegs and have no sound. movs and avis do not work
[04:58] <Jucato> det_: the standard installation doesn't have the codecs for proprietary media formats
[04:58] <det_> but adept doesn't offer them, does anyone have some of those extra package sources where i can get all this stuff comfortably?
[04:58] <Jucato> you just need to install libxine-extracodecs (from the repositories) and w32codecs (direct download)
[04:58] <Jucato> !mp3
[04:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <Jucato> det_: read that part about RestrictedFormats
[04:59] <Jucato> det_: you need to enable "multiverse" to get libxine-extracodecs
[04:59] <Jucato> !multi
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Jucato> !multiverse
[04:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:59] <Jucato> det_: this one on how to enable multiverse ^^^
[04:59] <det_> thanks Jucato, ubotu, bbl then :-)
[05:08] <det_> any nice howto about multimedia with a 64 bit system?
[05:09] <Jucato> aw... w32codecs will be a problem...
[05:09] <det_> yes, i read about a chroot environment
[05:09] <det_> but don't like to hack this all by myself...
[05:12] <Jucato> I'm not sure if Automatix or EasyUbuntu would make that easier (not sure if they work for 64-bit)
[05:13] <det_> a second kernel is not sufficient?
[05:14] <Jucato> hm.. probably a 32-bit kernel would be ok... I'm not really familiar with it
[05:17] <azzco> Hi I've got kubuntu installed but I wish to create a /home partion now. I've got the free space on HDD But how do I set ubuntu to recognise that partion as /home?
[05:19] <azzco> Do I need to make the /home folder extended or primary?
[05:19] <azzco> folder=partition
[05:20] <Jucato> azzco: either would do
[05:22] <azzco> Jucato: and ubuntu will recognise it right away? I think that I read something about that it should be mounted during creation of the partition...
[05:23] <_Shade_> is there any way to install kubuntu from an iso image ?
[05:23] <oheard> *sings*
[05:23] <oheard> _Shade_: in a virtual machine maybe...
[05:23] <azzco> _Shade_: I think that you'll have to burn it unless as stated being installed in a VM
[05:24] <Hyper> azzco: That's what I did (1) move home to home_old (2) create the dir "home" again (3) mount the new harddrive in there (4) move the contents of "home_old" back to "home" (5) edit fstab to mount permanently the new drive as /home (6) reboot and pray
[05:25] <azzco> =) THX Hyper... you don't know a link for a tutorial do you? couldn't find one myself I'm still searching though
[05:25] <_Shade_> well i could do it from windows using instlux project, but it doesn't support 6.10 yet
[05:26] <Hyper> azzco: for what part do you need help
[05:26] <oheard> _Shade_: you could install 6.06 with it then upgrade to 6.10... or wait until you have a blank CD and 6.10 is finished. :-)
[05:27] <azzco> Hyper: I'm not so sure about mounting right now
[05:27] <_Shade_> oheard unfortunately - i cant dist-upgrade, because my system crashes when i do so
[05:28] <oheard> _Shade_: maybe wait for 6.10 to be finished then? ;-)
[05:28] <azzco> _Shade_: are you trying to dist-upgrade to 6.10?
[05:28] <Hyper> azzco: you know what the new harddrive is called?
[05:28] <_Shade_> azzco yes
[05:28] <oheard> Fred.
[05:29] <azzco> Hyper: I'm creating a partion and I'm doing it ATM :)
[05:29] <oheard> Well I thought it was funny... _
[05:29] <_Shade_> azzco is it bad then?
[05:29] <azzco> _Shade_: stay with Ubuntu Dapper for now ;) (6.06)
[05:29] <_Shade_> ok i will
[05:30] <azzco> Hyper: I think that the new partion is called sda1
[05:31] <tk> hmmm, installing kde-desktop over ubuntu isnt quite as pleasing as just installing kubuntu :(
[05:31] <oheard> It never is. xD
[05:31] <det_> why doesn't amarok play anythin? kde is running alsa afaik, and the xine engine is configured to use alsa, but i don't hear a thing
[05:31] <azzco> Hyper: Maybe I should do this from liveCD? changing name on /home while using it isn't such a good idea right?
[05:31] <oheard> det_: turn up the volume?
[05:32] <Hyper> I did it while being in shell only
[05:32] <Hyper> brb
[05:32] <det_> oheard: i got system sounds loud enough...
[05:32] <oheard> det_: have you restarted Amarok since you got the codecs installed for it?
[05:32] <Jucato> det_: trying to play MP3's?
[05:33] <det_> i try to play mp3s, and amarok just skips through them...
[05:33] <oheard> !mp3
[05:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:33] <oheard> See the first link, after installing the package needed restart Amarok.
[05:33] <Jucato> det_: told you about "libxine-extracodecs" remember?
[05:34] <det_> Jucato: yes, but i can't install them on 64 bit
[05:34] <oheard> det_: also, Amarok stays in the systray, right click it and choose quit to close it fully.
[05:34] <Jucato> det_: yes you can.
[05:34] <Jucato> det_: w32codecs are the ones you can't
[05:35] <marvin__> hola
[05:36] <det_> Jucato: don't seem to have the right repository for those extracodecs...
[05:36] <oheard> !multiverse
[05:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:36] <marvin__> hay alguien que able esp
[05:36] <oheard> det_: see that link.
[05:36] <oheard> !es
[05:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:36] <Jucato> det_: I also told you about "multiverse" remember? :)
[05:37] <marvin__> ubuntu es
[05:38] <det_> Jucato yes, but this doesn't make any difference...
[05:38] <Jucato> det_: if you enabled the correct multiverse repo, and clicked on Fetch Updates before searching for libxine-extracodecs, it will make a difference
[05:39] <det_> damn, forgot to "apply changes"
[05:39] <oheard> xD
[05:39] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:40] <kutan> can someone help me fix this error when configuring an application?
[05:40] <kutan> "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[05:40] <Jucato> kutan: is kde-devel installed?
[05:40] <kutan> Hmmm I'll check
[05:40] <Jucato> not sure if that's the right package though :)
[05:42] <marvin__> hola luis
[05:42] <kutan> Hmmm installing it now but Jucato... Are you like your own walking library or something?
[05:43] <kutan> Seriously..
[05:43] <Jucato> kutan: lol
[05:43] <Jucato> just a coincidence :)
[05:44] <kutan> You're a genius, it worked.
[05:44] <kutan> Thanks :D
[05:45] <Jucato> hah smart guess  :)
[05:45] <oheard> :o
[05:46] <jtyler4> jucanto: what experience do you have with linux?
[05:47] <oheard> GNU+Linux*
[05:47] <Jucato> jtyler4: almost 10 months worth :)
[05:48] <jtyler4> cool.
[05:48] <jtyler4> jucato: are you in the industry before that?
[05:48] <Jucato> nope
[05:49] <jtyler4> jucato: so you've had theat problem yourself?
[05:50] <Jucato> I've had some, I've heard of them, or I've seen others solve them :)
[05:51] <jtyler4> jucato: I've been used something like 10 different distros since 97 when I got started. I was jsut curious
[05:51] <Jucato> aah... actually I haven't used other distros as much (yet)
[05:51] <Jucato> I've only used MEPIS for a few days. Ubuntu for 3 weeks (does that count?)
[05:52] <jtyler4> oheard: when a package is named something like -dev it is a development library and contains the shared libraries for compiling code or functionality of an app
[05:53] <oheard> I was a distro junkie for 5 years until I found (K)Ubuntu... no idea how many distros I used in that time...
[05:53] <jtyler4> Linux is pretty much linux.
[05:53] <Jucato> oh sorry I didn't notice oheard's "question"
[05:53] <oheard> jtyler4: I know about the -dev thing... I'm a developer myself... (not a Kubuntu developer though)
[05:53] <oheard> I make heavy use of development packages. :-)
[05:54] <jtyler4> There are many different philophies on how to setup initiate files or manage software
[05:54] <jtyler4> oheard seams like a classic username.
[05:55] <oheard> It is, my system username... I figured why waste time changing my IRC nick when there is a default that works. :-D
[05:56] <oheard> jtyler4: PMs are blocked until I register my nick... one sec...
[05:56] <jtyler4> ok
[05:58] <MasterEvilAce> anyone else's kubuntu usplash off-centered in EDGY?
[06:00] <kutan> okay I installed a program... how do I run it? :\
[06:00] <kutan> Usually I just type the name of the program in the command line but I guess that ain't the case
[06:01] <Dr_willis> depends on the program kulbir
[06:01] <Dr_willis> oops kutan
[06:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <kulbir> Dr_willis: ?
[06:02] <damjan> where can I find compiz-core or is there any other way to install compiz on Dapper?
[06:02] <pl> mam problem z ubuntu
[06:02] <Dr_willis> kulbir,  typo. :P
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !compwiz
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compwiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[06:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:03] <kulbir> Dr_willis: K :)
[06:03] <pl> jak cos zainstalowac w ubuntu?
[06:04] <Jucato> kutan: what did you compile/install?
[06:04] <jtyler4> Evil: I've notived that my login screen uses a virtual sized desktop... menaing that the borders move the placement of login
[06:04] <kutan> "SolSeek"
[06:05] <kutan> Just a little program that shows satellite images of the sun. :x
[06:05] <pl> jest ktos z polski?
[06:05] <kutan> found it on kde-apps.org
[06:05] <oheard> !pl
[06:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:05] <oheard> *wonders if he got the language right*
[06:06] <Jucato> hm.. try running it from the command line? using the package/app name?
[06:06] <kutan> I tried
[06:06] <pl> a gdzie mam tego szukac?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> kutan,  fire up the package manager.. select the package.. see what files it installed
[06:07] <Jucato> kutan: what's the name of the app? (a link would be nice)
[06:07] <kutan> oh
[06:07] <kutan> heh sorry hold on
[06:07] <kutan> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=31311
[06:08] <Dr_willis> or use the apt:// tool :P
[06:08] <kutan> apt:// tool?
[06:08] <Jucato> Dr_willis: apt:/ :P
[06:09] <Jucato> kutan: tried typing "solseek"?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> apt:////////////////////////////
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:09] <kutan> yes
[06:09] <kutan> it says command not found >_>
[06:09] <Dr_willis> !info solseek
[06:09] <ubotu> Package solseek does not exist in any distro I know
[06:09] <Dr_willis> package not found either :)
[06:09] <damjan> !info compiz
[06:09] <now3d> Hello, Could anyone tell me if there will be updated KDE 3.5.5 packages available for Kubuntu 6.06 please?
[06:09] <Jucato> hm...
[06:09] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 424 kB
[06:09] <Jucato> now3d: none yet
[06:10] <damjan> !info compiz-core
[06:10] <ubotu> Package compiz-core does not exist in any distro I know
[06:11] <now3d> Juncato: Do you know if there is any plan to release packages for Kubuntu 6.06 ?
[06:12] <now3d> In Konqueror filemanager, when I press F9 my directory browser appears -- does anyone know the official name for this area of the window?
[06:13] <Jucato> now3d: Navigation Panel
[06:18] <kutan> Try compiling it for yourself Jucato?
[06:18] <kutan> Maybe it's just me
[06:18] <Jucato> err... sorry I don't have the time to  compile it myself :(
[06:18] <kutan> ah
[06:18] <kutan> okay
[06:18] <kutan> I see how it is.
[06:18] <kutan> I GET IT
[06:19] <kutan> lol I'll ask someone else.
[06:19] <Jucato> ??
[06:19] <now3d> Jucato: thx
[06:21] <tejinder> after the upgrade, my drivers are not mounted at boot automatically, why?
[06:21] <tejinder> drivers/drives
[06:23] <now3d> tejinder: mabye there is a bug or a fault with your drives, check your /etc/fstab file and see if they are marked "auto"
[06:25] <tejinder> now3d: it worked before the upgrade, and yes /etc/fstab has all those drives marked as auto. and also when i try to mount the drivers manually by clicking on storage devices in konqueror, it says an error occured
[06:25] <bluch> !Fuse
[06:25] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:25] <bluch> !fuseiso
[06:25] <ubotu> fuseiso: FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060107-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:26] <Dink> !mdf
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <now3d> tjinder: type: tail -f /var/log/messages   and then do the command again and see what it says
[06:26] <bluch> !mountiso
[06:26] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:27] <tejinder> now3d: does'nt say anything at all
[06:27] <Dink> bluch I tried that still wont do it :(
[06:27] <oheard> tejinder: did you upgrade to 6.10?
[06:27] <tejinder> oheard: yea
[06:27] <now3d> tejinder: in another window type: mount /media/foobar_mount   or what ever it is called, then look at the message log again
[06:27] <oheard> _
[06:28] <det_> any channel for 64bit issues?
[06:28] <Dink> i get the wrong fs type error
[06:28] <now3d> tejinder: type, "mount" and does it show any thing relavent to indicate a problem?
[06:28] <Dink> even tried mdf2iso and same thing
[06:29] <now3d> Dink: what is the problem..?
[06:29] <Dink> I cant mount a .mdf image
[06:29] <trappist> det_: this one
[06:30] <Dink> even tried mdf2iso to see if the iso will do it
[06:30] <tejinder> now3d: it does'nt display all my drives, only the ones which are used by ubuntu
[06:30] <tejinder> now3d: and yes i can mount them manually using command line
[06:30] <now3d> Dink: mdf is a proprietary format, contact Alcohol 120% and ask them to publish the specifications
[06:30] <Dr_willis> all the mdf images ive seen are of copyprotected/games/cds   :) converting them to .iso   can lose some of the special info on those files
[06:31] <Dink> http://pastebin.ca/193139
[06:31] <det_> right, i installed totem and w32codecs via a chrooted synaptic package manager, but totem does not play ANYTHING
[06:31] <now3d> tejinder: I wonder why they don't mount at startup, they definately have "auto" ?  Are they on a Raid drive or soething? are they SATA or IDE?
[06:32] <trappist> det_: how are you running totem
[06:32] <trappist> det_: totem itself also needs to run from the chroot
[06:32] <tejinder> now3d: IDE
[06:32] <tejinder> there is no RAID
[06:32] <Dink> I tried ...   sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 image.mdf MountPoint
[06:32] <trappist> Dink: yeah that's not likely to work
[06:32] <det_> trappist: of course, and it is only installed in the chroot environment
[06:32] <Dink> even image.iso
[06:32] <Dr_willis> a .mdf has extra data with it
[06:33] <Dink> bastages
[06:33] <trappist> det_: I really don't even know whether totem uses w32codecs.  I use mplayer for everything but dvds.
[06:33] <kutan> http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/gallery/EIT/index.html
[06:33] <now3d> Dink: proprietary format's can only be supported when the vendor, Alcohol 120% publish the speciifcation
[06:33] <kutan> that beats the program
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Thats sort of the reason for the format being made. :P
[06:33] <now3d> tejinder: what abou the other questions?
[06:33] <pointwood_> hi, any suggestions for a way to resize a lot of pictures in one go?
[06:34] <trappist> det_: also, I do have trouble playing some wmv9 files on amd64, no matter what I do
[06:34] <now3d> pointwood_: ImageMagic?
[06:34] <det_> trappist: just installed mplayer and works. even with wmv (dunno which version though)
[06:34] <Dink> so i pretty much have to get the person to reimage it ?
[06:35] <trappist> yeah some of those do work for me, but the only things I could play on ye olde x86 that I can't play now are wmv9
[06:35] <pointwood_> now3d: I would have to script it then, wouldn't I?
[06:35] <kutan> http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/gallery/EIT/eit_199605_195_high_cadence.mpg
[06:35] <trappist> det_: totem might want some crazy gstreamer codecs or something.  try the package list from the RestrictedFormats wiki page.
[06:36] <Dink> Do you think alcohol120 will install with crossover ??
[06:37] <det_> trappist: will try that
[06:37] <trappist> Dink: I'd put money on it
[06:37] <Dink> going to try 6 beta2 first
[06:37] <littlebrean_> !list
[06:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:39] <Dink> nope with 6beta 2
[06:39] <Dink> going to 5pro
[06:39] <Dink> bastages :P
[06:40] <flai> a
[06:40] <trappist> Dink: you could also try cedega.  come to think of it, they've put a lot more work into cd copy protection than cxoffice.
[06:40] <Dink> that was next on my list :P
[06:42] <Dink> nope ima google abit
[06:45] <Dr_willis> cd copy protection - is one of the reasins ive given up on windows gaming...
[06:45] <Solveneq> Hey guys, i got wifi working, how do i make it so i dont have to do modprobe ndiswrapper every time? also, make it so it keeps the location im connecting to?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Dink,  what game is this anyway?
[06:45] <Dink> the funniest thing its not even a game :P
[06:45] <Dr_willis> then theres not much point in it being in mdf format.
[06:45] <Dink> he just used alcohol to image files
[06:45] <Phlogistique> Solveneq: you are supposed to do all that with graphical conf tools
[06:46] <det_> which gstreamer package adds support for quicktime?
[06:46] <Dr_willis> he could rip to iso in 1/10th the time
[06:46] <Dink> yea ima have him do that problem is he will have to reup
[06:46] <det_> trappist, i indeed had to install the gstreamer codecs for w32
[06:46] <Solveneq> Phlogistique: Like?
[06:47] <Solveneq> Sorry, big newb here :)
[06:47] <Dr_willis> mdf2iso dont work eh?
[06:47] <Dink> it converted it yeah but still wont mount
[06:47] <arunkale> does anyone here know of any good internet streaming application?
[06:48] <Dink> http://pastebin.ca/193139
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Dink,  kiso is supposed tobe able to read those also
[06:48] <Phlogistique> Solveneq: hum, systemsettings ?
[06:48] <Phlogistique> (altough it doesn't work with me)
[06:48] <Dink> hmm
[06:48] <Dink> installing now
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Dink,  or so google sez
[06:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <Solveneq> heh
[06:49] <tk> oi, apache2 makes things complicated (more so than apache) to add vhosts :(
[06:49] <cojy> hi
[06:50] <Dink> nope on kiso
[06:50] <cojy> I need a little help
[06:50] <cojy> any offer?
[06:50] <cojy> :)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Dink,  it may need the mdf2iso tool installed and confogured
[06:50] <gupta> cojy: just ask!
[06:50] <oheard> cojy: you're best off just asking your question, if anybody can help they likely will. :-)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> since i have no mdfs to test. :P
[06:50] <Solveneq> hrm, heres another one, i just did the package install for kubuntu desktop, how do i get it to boot into it?
[06:50] <Dink> mdf2iso is installed
[06:50] <cojy> I wanted to install mplayer on ubuntu
[06:51] <cojy> but in the terminal it gives me the next error
[06:51] <cojy> install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/lib/libdha.so.1.0': Permission denied
[06:51] <oheard> Solveneq: in the login manager you should have an option for session, choose KDE. :-D
[06:51] <tk> Solveneq: when you get to the login screen,  click options or whatever and select KDE....
[06:52] <oheard> cojy: try running it with sudo first, then close it and try again.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Dink,  try a 'file  whatever.mdf'  :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Dink,  try a 'file  whatever.iso'   also
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Dink,  and what was your mount command to mont the thing
[06:52] <cojy> what is sodo?...the terminal?
[06:53] <Solveneq> super user do!
[06:53] <Dink> file blah.mdf returned blah.mdf:data
[06:53] <v3ctor> switch user do ;)
[06:53] <Dink> I tried ...   sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 blah.mdf MountPoint
[06:54] <Solveneq> thats weird, i didnt see KDE
[06:54] <danny500> does anybody know why my fucking internet browser keeps cutting off?
[06:54] <v3ctor> danny500: most likely it doesn't like your language
[06:54] <danny500> very funny
[06:55] <cojy> how do I run it with sodo?
[06:55] <v3ctor> !language
[06:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:55] <danny500> no body in this room can say that they don't swear so don't even start with that crap
[06:55] <v3ctor> i can say that
[06:55] <v3ctor> so please stop
[06:55] <danny500> well anyways, I've had firefox kick of almost 20 times so far
[06:56] <danny500> for no reason
[06:56] <danny500> It's can't be my connection because it's a 5mb/s
[06:56] <v3ctor> what type of sites does it crash on?
[06:57] <danny500> all of them
[06:57] <danny500> I can be reading my email and it will just randomly shut off
[06:58] <danny500> maybe ubuntu is having a hisy fit
[06:58] <LivingCooler> Hi, can I use the Live CD for an rsync server?
[06:58] <danny500> depends how fast your computer is
[06:58] <oheard> danny500: does it just disappear completely with no warning whatsoever?
[06:58] <Dink> Dr_Willis, any other ideas :)
[06:58] <danny500> yes
[06:58] <Dink> Dr_willis, even
[06:59] <danny500> no warnings at all, iot just disapears
[06:59] <oheard> danny500: run it in the terminal, when it dies again, check the last output for "Segmentation fault", if it says that it's either a bug in firefox or your computers memory is faulty.
[06:59] <heyholmez> hi
[06:59] <danny500> how do I start it in the terminal?
[06:59] <LivingCooler> Can I use rsync from the Live CD to backup 'to' an ftp server ?
[07:00] <v3ctor> open terminal and type firefox
[07:00] <heyholmez> me was going to install kubuntu last night on me lappy, but it stalls at 'loading kernel 100%'. using compaq v3010us
[07:00] <danny500> depends on how fast you computer is
[07:00] <oheard> danny500: K menu -> System -> konsole, then type firefox and press enter.
[07:00] <danny500> heyholmez: are you three years old?
[07:00] <v3ctor> LivingCooler: yes to all of your questions so far
[07:01] <cojy> to install a program in the terminal, do I have to write anything but ./configure, make, make install?
[07:01] <heyholmez> what does age have to do with this
[07:01] <danny500> you just type like a little kid
[07:01] <v3ctor> cojy: ./configure, make, sudo make install
[07:01] <oheard> cojy: it all depends on the program, there should be a README file and an INSTALL file, read those and there should be instructions on what to do.
[07:01] <heyholmez> its for humor. sory i forgot to take things seriously
[07:01] <apokryphos> cojy: please read the FAQ first
[07:01] <danny500> if you want people to help you they have to at least understand what you want
[07:02] <cojy> ok..didn't thought at that....thank you
[07:02] <heyholmez> I want to inform youthat my install failed
[07:02] <danny500> ok try it again
[07:02] <heyholmez> did about 3 times
[07:02] <v3ctor> danny500: this channel is international, some users only know english as a second
[07:02] <danny500> o ok
[07:02] <v3ctor> lets not resort to insults
[07:02] <heyholmez> i didnt check what was going on i just watched the graphical install
[07:02] <danny500> what type of cpu are you using?
[07:02] <danny500> amd or intel?
[07:02] <heyholmez> turion x2
[07:02] <danny500> o
[07:03] <heyholmez> yes i dld the right iso
[07:03] <danny500> It might not be able to run on that type of architecture]
[07:03] <oheard> heyholmez: did you get any errors? If so what were they?
[07:03] <heyholmez> ill have to check i will in a sec
[07:03] <danny500> turion x2 as far as I know is a business cpu
[07:03] <oheard> Okay.
[07:03] <heyholmez> i found it strange that it didnt work :-P
[07:03] <rampage>  my opera wont start after install
[07:03] <heyholmez> ok checking
[07:04] <rampage>  but its showing icon on internet section
[07:04] <danny500> what name is the os you want to use again?
[07:04] <oheard> danny500: GNU+Linux is the most powerful OS on earth... it runs on anything from iPods to super computers, I'm pretty sure it can handle a Turion :P
[07:04] <heyholmez> the recent kubuntu for amd64
[07:04] <raul12>  plz help
[07:04] <danny500> thats why
[07:05] <danny500> it for amd
[07:05] <danny500> not turion which is a intel chip
[07:05] <heyholmez> turion is amd
[07:05] <tobias__> I need a little help :)  I was on the site cartoonnettwork in the games-section and I saw I had to install a Adobe flashplayer, and they have a linux version at this page "http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"
[07:05] <raul12>  guys i need help
[07:05] <tobias__> is there an installable thing in adept?
[07:05] <danny500> what? I thought it was intel turion
[07:05] <raul12>  my opera showing icon but not running
[07:05] <heyholmez> it just hangs up at 'loading /casper/initrd.gz
[07:05] <danny500> use firefox
[07:05] <oheard> tobias__: you need flashplayer-nonfree :-)
[07:06] <tobias__> oheard: its in adept? thanks! :)
[07:06] <v3ctor> raul12: open konsile and run it from there, this may give you error explaining the problem
[07:06] <v3ctor> konsole*
[07:06] <oheard> !info flashplayer-nonfree
[07:06] <ubotu> Package flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in any distro I know
[07:06] <heyholmez> anyway I just wanted to inform you guys, should I email someone about it?
[07:06] <oheard> :O
[07:06] <oheard> LIAR!
[07:06] <tobias__> hmm
[07:07] <tobias__> is it called something else?
[07:07] <danny500> try to find a blog about it or something
[07:07] <heyholmez> or manybe it just takes forever and a day to load the kernel
[07:07] <raul12>  well  libqt-mt.so.3 these liabray is missing
[07:07] <gupta> raul12: run this in termial "opera -pd ~/temp"
[07:07] <apokryphos> tobias__: check the FAQ
[07:07] <oheard> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[07:07] <tobias__> apo: thanx
[07:07] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:07] <oheard> There we go! :-D
[07:07] <danny500> yeah like installing windows
[07:07] <danny500> takes forever
[07:07] <heyholmez> back to suse
[07:07] <tobias__> woo
[07:07] <gupta> raul12: I think I know why.. wait...
[07:07] <tobias__> iyts there
[07:08] <heyholmez> me loves suse
[07:08] <tobias__> its even
[07:08] <raul12>  well i cant find the lib file
[07:08] <danny500> what you guy's think about windows vista?
[07:08] <oheard> I think it should be burried and never spoken of again...
[07:08] <tobias__> oh
[07:08] <danny500> let me, guess, I hate windows, linux is the best.
[07:09] <danny500> blah, blah, blah
[07:09] <nuku> raul12: what opera did you install? the .6-shared-qt one?
[07:09] <oheard> danny500: no, I have vista... you are ignorant...
[07:09] <danny500> you like it so far?
[07:09] <tobias__> I seem to have the flashplayer nonfree, it seems that on cartoon netvorks pages they use adobes flashplayer which I never heard of before.
[07:09] <oheard> It's a PoS.
[07:09] <v3ctor> danny500: i think that the computers needed to run it well are to pricey for most users
[07:09] <danny500> well it's only a beta version
[07:10] <gupta> raul12: yup nuku's right.. u need to download the 6.shared wt one and the 5...deb one
[07:10] <danny500> I heard that the real version won't need all the power it say's it does
[07:10] <raul12>  well i have these error promt libqt-mt.so.3 is missing
[07:10] <tobias__> do not speak of the hateth os!
[07:10] <danny500> what? windows?
[07:10] <tobias__> aaah!
[07:10] <raul12>  plz spicify exact file name
[07:10] <tobias__> the word was uttered once more :(
[07:10] <danny500> sorry. lol
[07:10] <tmdx120> identify 5percent
[07:11] <nuku> raul12: opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[07:11] <oheard> danny500: it's not even out and people have developed viruses for it, no doubt it's full of DRM, it's best kept away from imo.
[07:11] <raul12>  where can i download that file ???
[07:11] <v3ctor> raul12: try google
[07:12] <tmdx120> need help with kmail can anyone help me?
[07:12] <oheard> raul12: install Opera from the repositories and you shouldn't have a problem.
[07:12] <danny500> mac is the worst os so far. Did you know that windows xp actually runs 2x faster on a mac computer then osx does.
[07:12] <gupta> Try : http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=28354%2C28352&location=101&sub=++++&x=46&y=7
[07:12] <raul12>  but i want to install it offline
[07:12] <danny500> thats pretty bad
[07:12] <nuku> oheard: well the commerical repo opera is still 9.00 which is bad due to some bugfixes and ssl certificate issues..
[07:12] <oheard> danny500: your argument is flawed... XP is 5 years old...
[07:13] <paddy2k> how old is NT4?
[07:13] <danny500> yeah and
[07:13] <oheard> nuku: oh I see.
[07:13] <danny500> they've already proved it
[07:13] <tobias__> sb
[07:13] <v3ctor> paddy2k: 10years?
[07:13] <oheard> danny500: I doubt vista will run 2x as fast on a mac than os x...
[07:13] <cojy> how can i have the full access of the system?
[07:13] <danny500> xp does that already
[07:13] <nuku> the 9.02 works without problems installed from the right deb..
[07:13] <paddy2k> v3ctor: thanx
[07:13] <tmdx120> any kmail gurus out there?
[07:14] <v3ctor> paddy2k: rough guess
[07:14] <danny500> maximum pc did a test on it
[07:14] <cojy> I can't even rename the linux partition (filesystem)
[07:14] <tobias__> should i install "libflash-mozplugin"? would it save me?
[07:14] <tmdx120> I need to know if you can use kmail to show aol email?
[07:14] <oheard> danny500: but you see OS X is modern, new, sexy, XP isn't...
[07:14] <danny500> they speed test both os's on the new mac and windows ran 2x faster
[07:14] <v3ctor> tmdx120: does aol email support POP?
[07:14] <Solveneq> woah
[07:15] <Solveneq> i changed to kubuntu and my display is going insane
[07:15] <danny500> I don't care about looks, I care about performence
[07:15] <cojy> how can i have the full access of the system?
[07:15] <oheard> danny500: I can run windows ME 5x faster than windows XP in vmware, ME must be so much better!  I have to check.
[07:15] <danny500> yeah your right. And ME is extremly fast online for some reason
[07:15] <cojy> and hoq do I do that?
[07:15] <raul12> i am working on it
[07:15] <nuku> raul12: this will give you the deb you can install via "sudo dpkg -i opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"
[07:15] <raul12> @naku
[07:16] <paddy2k> cojy: in konsole type sudo before your command to have root privilages
[07:16] <cojy> okay :) thanks
[07:17] <paddy2k> cojy: to open a program with root privilages in the KDE hit ALT-F2 then type "kdesu <program>"
[07:17] <raul12>  but why my 1st package which i downloaded from opera did not run
[07:17] <raul12>  ???
[07:17] <dimsuz> hi! how do I setup xorg so I can enter (C) simbol?
[07:17] <dimsuz> some xkb magic needed? :)
[07:17] <raul12>  @nuku
[07:17] <paddy2k> raul12: are you using kubuntu?
[07:17] <raul12>  yup
[07:18] <raul12>  6.06
[07:18] <nuku> raul12: well opera supports alot of distributions which have different libs... so you need to get the one appropiate for ubuntu :)
[07:18] <danny500> which is the best linux so far?
[07:18] <tmdx120> v3ctor: It supports IMAP
[07:18] <paddy2k> raul12: I installed Opera 0.02 just fine on the same distro by selecting Ubuntu as my distro in the downloads page and it works perfectly. (like right now)
[07:19] <raul12>  but not mine
[07:19] <raul12>  i have download the .deb and zip package
[07:19] <raul12>  tryed both
[07:19] <danny500> use firefox
[07:19] <paddy2k> raul12: did you try getting it from the canonical repository in adept?
[07:19] <raul12>  but now the icon comes up sometimes dance then gone
[07:20] <danny500> it's better then opera anyways
[07:20] <paddy2k> Opera's way better!
[07:20] <raul12>  well i have downloaded it manually
[07:20] <raul12>  from opera
[07:20] <danny500> are you kiding?
[07:20] <raul12>  site
[07:20] <oheard> danny500: people are entitled to choose the software they want. :-)
[07:20] <raul12>  nope not even 0.01 %
[07:21] <raul12>  still opera kinda better
[07:21] <raul12>  slightly slower than fire
[07:21] <nuku> opera slower than fx?!
[07:21] <nuku> never happend to see that :p
[07:21] <raul12>   slightly
[07:21] <danny500> well if you can't get opera. why waist all your time when you prob already have firefox installed
[07:21] <nuku> fx is WAY slower than fx..
[07:21] <nuku> opera :)
[07:21] <oheard> I tend to find firefox the most memory eating/leaking program in existance... so I use konqueror for the integration with KDE. :-D
[07:21] <nuku> is faster
[07:22] <nuku> i make no sense :p
[07:22] <raul12>  well i want to waste time in solving the problem
[07:22] <raul12>  not installing opera
[07:22] <paddy2k> raul12: try getting it from the repos. that way it "should" work without any trouble. want the repos link?
[07:22] <nuku> raul12: still does not work? with the package i told you?
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> the GUI is superior to Opera, Konqui IMO
[07:22] <raul12>  yup
[07:22] <raul12>  yup it is
[07:22] <danny500> hey, a browser is a browser
[07:22] <v3ctor> konqueror is the only browser for me ;)
[07:23] <raul12>  well i did ask my question if u didnt see
[07:23] <danny500> who cares how fast it is
[07:23] <raul12>  @ubotu
[07:23] <danny500> as long as it works
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> food now ttul
[07:23] <oheard> Says the guy who claims Windows is better than OS X because it's faster...
[07:23] <v3ctor> lol
[07:23] <paddy2k> LOL
[07:24] <nuku> raul12: an unlikely case is that you may have to "apt-get install libqt3-mt"
[07:24] <v3ctor> "I don't care about looks, I care about performence"
[07:25] <oheard> xD
[07:25] <danny500> I only meant that for os's
[07:25] <danny500> not browsers
[07:25] <_Shade_> i'm going to upgrade my dapper to edgy beta. Is it safe ?
[07:25] <paddy2k> danny500: stop digging!
[07:25] <danny500> ?
[07:25] <oheard> _Shade_: I would wait until it's released if I was you.
[07:26] <_Shade_> oheard well i don't expect anything stable, i just wanted to test a bit
[07:26] <nuku> hehe wonders how an os with an O(2^n) thread sheduler would perform :p
[07:27] <oheard> _Shade_: then by all means go ahead, :-D
[07:27] <raul12> libqt3-mt these lib file is already installed
[07:27] <_Shade_> but last time i did that (dapper -> edgy knot3 it did not launch)
[07:27] <danny500> I'm not using a shovel. I'm using a backhoe lol
[07:27] <v3ctor> _Shade_: it is plenty stable enough for testing
[07:27] <tmdx120> v3ctor: It supports IMAP
[07:27] <nuku> raul12: and you still get missing libqt when running opera form konsole?
[07:27] <raul12> yup
[07:28] <v3ctor> tmdx120: I don't care about looks, I care about performence
[07:28] <v3ctor> doh
[07:28] <v3ctor> wrong paste
[07:28] <tmdx120> v3ctor: ???
[07:28] <nuku> raul12: maybe you have broken something by installing it by hand before :p
[07:28] <v3ctor> tmdx120: http://www.mepis.org/olddocs/kmail-setup/
[07:28] <tmdx120> v3ctor: LOL THANKS!!!
[07:28] <raul12> and the .deb package link i got
[07:29] <raul12> dont help much
[07:29] <_Shade_> ok, so i will try
[07:29] <danny500> lol
[07:29] <raul12> it says architecture mis match
[07:29] <nuku> raul12: ah you are on x64?!
[07:29] <raul12> i have x64 and it is i386
[07:29] <raul12> yup
[07:29] <nuku> ok i see
[07:29] <raul12> some 1 said it can be installed
[07:29] <raul12> on x64
[07:29] <nuku> thats the problem i guess :)
[07:30] <_Shade_> i suppose i should perform a clean install of dapper first ?
[07:30] <danny500> probably
[07:30] <danny500> yeah
[07:30] <danny500> you don't want to do a dirty install
[07:30] <v3ctor> why not do a clean install of edgy beta?
[07:30] <danny500> you'll have o clean you cpu then
[07:30] <danny500> lol
[07:31] <nuku> raul12: you may try the statically linked version then.. http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/opera-static_9.02-20060919.1-qt_en_i386.deb
[07:31] <_Shade_> v3ctor because i don't have it burnt yet - i have to do dist-upgrade
[07:31] <v3ctor> ahh
[07:31] <_Shade_> v3ctor do you think it will work ?
[07:32] <v3ctor> i did the same thing with this xubuntu
[07:32] <v3ctor> it will work
[07:32] <nuku> raul12: but i don't know much about x64 installations.. you might be able to have a lib32/ or something like that with the appropiate libs there..
[07:32] <nuku> raul12: but there are probably people who can tell you more about it :)
[07:32] <_Shade_> v3ctor it did not for knot 3... but it's beta at all :)
[07:32] <v3ctor> i did it 2 days ago
[07:32] <raul12> but not finding them ^_^ lol
[07:33] <nuku> raul12: hehe well it was not clear that you use x64 ...
[07:33] <v3ctor> fresh dapper server install > upgrade to edgy > install xubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <raul12> lol
[07:33] <_Shade_> v3ctor i'll try then... may i use synaptic or adept, or should it be @ init3
[07:33] <raul12> but from herre some 1 told me that i386 can be installed on x64
[07:33] <nuku> raul12: its a more common setup to have a hybrid installation for 32bit libs in general
[07:33] <v3ctor> always safer in single user mode
[07:34] <v3ctor> less things running
[07:34] <paddy2k> raul12: I think you using an x64 box is the issue here. Thats why Ubuntu ship a seperate x64 version (and mac version)
[07:34] <raul12> well i have intstalled all lib32 files
[07:34] <nuku> raul12: well try the static one .. the link i gave you.. you may have luck with it..
[07:34] <raul12> i am on it
[07:34] <oheard> Does Opera not have a 64bit build?
[07:35] <trappist> not that I know of
[07:35] <raul12> nope
[07:35] <oheard> That's a little silly...
[07:35] <nuku> raul12: you may have to do something like export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32 or wherever they are
[07:35] <nuku> hehe almost all browser plugins are 32bit too :p
[07:35] <raul12> where i can make these change
[07:36] <raul12> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32
[07:36] <danny500> who's DCC?
[07:36] <nuku> raul12: in konsole try this..   "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32 opera"
[07:36] <paddy2k> they only have an i386 build http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/
[07:36] <_Shade_> v3ctor ok thanks then.... awww... i have one more question: if i do the update and the packages are downloading, can i simply poweroff my machine and then continue the process at a later time or do i have to do it at once?
[07:36] <nuku> but as i told you i am not into x64 installations so its just a blind guess ..
[07:36] <v3ctor> as long as they are not installing...it *should* be ok
[07:36] <nuku> and i bet the static version might work for you
[07:37] <_Shade_> ah thanx then
[07:37] <v3ctor> you could use the download only option
[07:37] <danny500> who's DCC?
[07:37] <v3ctor> then upgrade later
[07:37] <raul12> ok
[07:37] <danny500> how do you do that? ^
[07:37] <_Shade_> v3ctor and the syntax is... ?
[07:38] <paddy2k> I've a question.  There may be a small chance to recover the formatted data if you can get your hands on forensic tools!
[07:44] <dinosaur-rus> lots of sources from different repositories, downloaded files, projects, configuration files
[07:44] <danny500> well that's informative
[07:44] <danny500> disk warrior might be able to reverse the erase
[07:44] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: did you actually overwrite it with other data or just formatted it?
[07:45] <dinosaur-rus> danny500: all that data was collected for months and some with difficulties
[07:45] <danny500> I know they use it on mac for that reason but I don't know if they have it for linux
[07:45] <danny500> look up disk warrior
[07:45] <dinosaur-rus> nuku: formatted it
[07:45] <dinosaur-rus> danny500: now I'm without Linux
[07:45] <danny500> ou have no os?
[07:46] <paddy2k> danny500: if its for OS X it might be for *nix systems
[07:46] <danny500> what are you using for an os right now?
[07:46] <zorglu_> .
[07:46] <dinosaur-rus> danny500: only Windows is still working
[07:46] <paddy2k> dinosaur-rus:live disk?
[07:46] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: well normally a format just wipes the inode table/fat/mft or whatever .. so chances are very good to rescue most of your stuff
[07:46] <paddy2k> ah right
[07:47] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: efforts depends on the filesystem it was before ;)
[07:47] <danny500> well try to use disk warrior. It will bring back the files
[07:47] <dinosaur-rus> paddy2k: uh, Kubuntu 6.10 Live CD loads successfully only on every ~10 attempt, it's kinda buggy for me
[07:47] <danny500> thats what it's made for. this prob
[07:47] <danny500> well that sucks
[07:47] <zorglu_> dinosaur-rus: have you checked the CD ?
[07:48] <danny500> yeah, check the cd for errors
[07:48] <paddy2k> dinosaur-rus: if your on windoz try "PC Inspector File Recovery" it's free and worked when I busted my partition table.
[07:48] <danny500> yeah, but will it be able to read linux files?
[07:49] <danny500> or does it only look for exe and dll's?
[07:49] <dinosaur-rus> zorglu_, danny500: I've checked ISO md5sum after downloading
[07:49] <danny500> yeah
[07:49] <danny500> and
[07:49] <nuku> i had very good results with easyrecovery pro some time ago :)
[07:49] <zorglu_> dinosaur-rus: when you boot and that it fails, what is the issue
[07:49] <paddy2k> danny500: I recovered loads of different files.
[07:50] <Blacken> If you can locate partitionmagic, IIRC it can recover smashed tables.
[07:50] <danny500> ok then, guess it works then lol
[07:50] <nuku> well as i said most important is the underlying filesystem to decide what tool to use :)
[07:50] <zorglu_> hard to keep a channel on topic :)
[07:50] <dinosaur-rus> well, before downloading that ISO, I've ordered Kubuntu 6.06 by ShipIt :)
[07:51] <dragonkh> anyone here?
[07:51] <dragonkh> ah cool
[07:51] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: It'll take quite some time to get to you.
[07:51] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: I wouldn't rely on that.
[07:51] <paddy2k> I say just look with a tool, if it doesn't work,, move on to the next one
[07:51] <dinosaur-rus> Blacked: at least it's free, so as reserve it'd be good
[07:52] <nuku> or... forget about the data :P
[07:52] <paddy2k> Blacked: I got my package in about 5-6 weeks. better than fed*x
[07:53] <dinosaur-rus> nuku: that was reiserfs, formatting tool I've used supports ext3 only, so... :/
[07:53] <paddy2k> anyone use edubuntu in a class room situation?
[07:53] <Blacken> paddy2k: I installed it last year at my high school. It's still ticking along without complaints.
[07:53] <hyper> abattoir: hiya
[07:54] <dinosaur-rus> oh "PC Inspector File Recovery" does't support Linux partitions
[07:54] <hyper> trappist: hiya
[07:54] <Blacken> paddy2k: And since this presentation (and tech-education conference...thing...hard to describe) is going to have a bunch of education professionals, I felt it best to have some ltsp CDs around.
[07:54] <paddy2k> Blacken: cool, does it rely on virtualisation and thin clients? I know the server has to have a certain amount for each client.
[07:54] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: reiserfsck can do nice work in rebuilding the journal
[07:54] <Blacken> paddy2k: It's LTSP.
[07:55] <Blacken> paddy2k: No virtualization that I know about, but it's thin-client X-terminal machines.
[07:55] <paddy2k> dinosaur-rus: sorry about that then, but if windoz ever goes south  on you (and it will) you could use that!
[07:55] <Blacken> The K12LTSP setup that runs most of the school's linux thinclients has a bunch of standardized clients...I just got the trash machines. As long as boot-over-ethernet worked, I used 'em.
[07:56] <dinosaur-rus> nuku: what journal if partition has been formatted to another fs?
[07:56] <paddy2k> Blacken: If you were at aKademy you could have picked up a box of Kubuntu, they had loads there
[07:56] <Blacken> paddy2k: I live in Maine and am a poor college student.
[07:56] <Blacken> paddy2k: End of story. :P
[07:56] <Blacken> No aKademy for me.
[07:56] <nuku> dinosaur-rus:  something like this may work: reiserfsck scan-whole-partition rebuild-tree /dev/yourdev
[07:57] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: but you should dd the whole partition first so you can play around
[07:57] <dinosaur-rus> does anyone here, except me, encounter problems with Kubuntu 6.10 amd64 Live-CD?
[07:57] <paddy2k> Blacken: yea, I bumped into the "kicker" team walking the streets of dublin wearing KDE t's on a friday night while out on the beer and found out it was on.
[07:58] <buzzy> sorry for OT, people i m looking for fortran dedicated channel..is there one?
[07:58] <Blacken> paddy2k: Aha. I need to get me one of those shirts.
[07:58] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: or an --rebuild-sb to rebuild the superblock
[07:58] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: From what I hear, it's rare not to have a problem with the liveCD. 6.10 64-bit seems to still be a wee bit touchy.
[07:58] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: ..take a look at the for example: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/repairing-reiserfs-file-system-with-reiserfsck.html
[07:59] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: Might want to go download/burn i386-6.06.
[07:59] <voraistos> !voodoo
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voodoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <voraistos> !tdfx
[07:59] <paddy2k> Blacken: http://www.kde.org/stuff/merchandise.php the mug has pride of place in my work cage/cubicle
[08:00] <trappist> dinosaur-rus: problems (bugs) are inevitable.  especially in an instable, unreleased OS, but maybe you could be more specific.
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tdfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <lupine_85> !info rutilt edgy
[08:00] <ubotu> Package rutilt does not exist in edgy
[08:00] <lupine_85> boooooooooooo hoooooooooooo
[08:00] <Blacken> paddy2k: Ugh, maybe I don't need that shirt. That's ugly.
[08:00] <trappist> voraistos: if you're taking stabs in the dark, try /msg ubotu query
[08:01] <paddy2k> gud morning, gud evening and gud nite. I'm off to hide some guinness in my belly.
[08:02] <dinosaur-rus> trappist: it displays KDE splash, loads some components, and then the screens gets screwed up (noise in the upper part, solid pink color in the bottom). number of loaded components differs from time to time
[08:02] <v3ctor> !botabuse
[08:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:04] <dinosaur-rus> trappist: also, it doesn't show any partitions when manual partitioning is chosen during installation (so I didn't go further - don't want to loose absolutely everything)
[08:04] <ka6sox> anyone around who has tried to install kubuntu on a PowerMac-G4-AGP> with a nVidia card?
[08:05] <trappist> dinosaur-rus: yeah usplash in general is sucking pretty bad on both my amd64 boxen, livecd or not
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> dinosaur-rus: use the alternative CD, it uses a text installer
[08:06] <Blacken> I almost bought an AMD64 box, but I'm glad I didn't. Still too many issues.
[08:06] <BluesKaj> you can run 32 bit OS on AMD 64 ...I do and it runs very well
[08:07] <jhutchins_wk> What's the kubuntu equivalent of "chkconfig" to manage services?
[08:07] <dinosaur-rus> TheGateKeeper: may be it'd be better to add non-GUI installer (without loading Live-CD) and some recovery features (like restoring rewritten loader)?
[08:07] <Blacken> BluesKaj: I know. That'd what I'd probably have done if I'd bought one. But the Inspiron Core Duo laptop was way cheaper than the AMD64 desktop.
[08:07] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: lots of people have been asking for that...
[08:07] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: No luck so far. :-/
[08:07] <BluesKaj> should still run
[08:07] <ka6sox> is there a better place to ask kubuntu-ppc questions?
[08:07] <TheGateKeeper> dinosaur-rus: and it's called the alternative CD lol
[08:08] <andy> where can i get libvisual-0.4-plugins
[08:08] <andy> for dapper
[08:11] <otaku-san> How does the update releasing normally go?  I mean....it seems that I've been updating everyday for the past 2 weeks....there was a long calm then boom!   Is it about this time when alot of release dates happen?
[08:11] <bertha> !es
[08:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:12] <otaku-san> andy: look in Adept..at the top in the search box type in the pack and wait....and something might come up.  If that doesn't work...google it...you probably will find a .dep pack of it
[08:12] <tomek__> Hi
[08:12] <tomek__> I have problem with Amarok
[08:13] <tomek__> I don't play mp3 on this player
[08:13] <otaku-san> tomek__: That takes a special package
[08:13] <tomek__> I don't listen music
[08:13] <andy> otaku-san: tried both and no success
[08:13] <Solveneq> how can i set up my ndiswrapper so i dont haev to modprobe it every boot?
[08:13] <tomek__> for example mp3
[08:14] <tomek__> what can I do it ??
[08:14] <otaku-san> tomek__: You mean you can't listen to mp3s.  Thats because Amarok doesn't come with support for mp3's.  You have to install a package.  Wait I'll get it for you.
[08:15] <tomek__> ok
[08:15] <josey> I'm converting all my mp3s to ogg right now :P
[08:15] <otaku-san> andy: libvisuals?  You couldn't find anything....
[08:15] <otaku-san> josey: using what?
[08:15] <nuku> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:15] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:15] <nuku> tomek__: thats the one you need :)
[08:16] <josey> audacity
[08:16] <otaku-san> nuku: thank you
[08:16] <tomek__> libxine -extra .... ??
[08:16] <otaku-san> tomek__: a codec is what mp3 is
[08:16] <nuku> extracodecs .. like .. mp3 :)
[08:16] <tomek__> ok
[08:16] <tomek__> thanks
[08:17] <tomek__> very thanks
[08:17] <trappist> short for COmpressor/DECompressor
[08:17] <otaku-san> .....I was almost done with the same thing trappist!  You beat me
[08:17] <trappist> :)
[08:17] <[GuS] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec
[08:17] <nuku> you might even call it COder/DECoder :)
[08:18] <otaku-san> josey: ya...Audicity does Mp3 to Ogg...On Amarok I have a script installed that can trancoded a whole bunch of codecs....just can't find it on Amarok
[08:18] <otaku-san> transcode*
[08:19] <zorglu_> !info soundconverter
[08:19] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:19] <otaku-san> zorglu_: hmmmm....never heard of it....Do you use it?
[08:20] <zorglu_> otaku-san: nope, i dont. but it is the one advised by help.ubuntu.org
[08:20] <zorglu_> !codec
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <zorglu_> !codecs
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <jhutchins_wk> I hate to keep asking this, but the ubuntu forums are down.
[08:20] <zorglu_> otaku-san: in the first url
[08:20] <jhutchins_wk> What's the *buntu eqivalent of chkconfig to start/stop/manage services in init?
[08:20] <trappist> jhutchins_wk: update-rc.d
[08:21] <otaku-san> zorglu_: Thanks
[08:21] <zorglu_> jhutchins_wk: hmm fdoving told me the other day. something with sysv in the title
[08:21] <zorglu_> jhutchins_wk: i think it is sysvconfig
[08:21] <zorglu_> !info sysvconfig
[08:21] <trappist> I personally think chkconfig is superior
[08:21] <ubotu> sysvconfig: A text menu based utility for configuring init script links. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 144 kB
[08:22] <zorglu_> jhutchins_wk: sysv-rc-conf package may be of interest too
[08:22] <trappist> zorglu_: that's one of many interfaces for managing startup services, but chkconfig is a cli for managing one service at a time, so the equivalent here would be more like update-rc.d
[08:23] <andy> libvisual-0.4-plugins --> this is not available for dapper
[08:23] <andy> not even under backports
[08:23] <jhutchins_wk> Thanks
[08:23] <jhutchins_wk> Most of the init scripts for Mandriva and Fedora these days include a "status" command.
[08:23] <nuku> andy: try imbrandon's repository afair he has it in there..
[08:23] <Solveneq> how can i set up my ndiswrapper so i dont have to modprobe it every boot?
[08:24] <zorglu_> Solveneq: i think it involve putting a file in /etc/modprobe.d
[08:24] <andy> no luck nuku
[08:24] <zorglu_> Solveneq: "man modprobe.conf" will explain the format of the file
[08:25] <zorglu_> andy: why do you need it
[08:25] <andy> for amarok visualizations
[08:25] <andy> 1.4.3
[08:25] <andy> it cannot work with 2.0
[08:26] <andy> i've got libvisuals-0.4 just not the plugins
[08:26] <zorglu_> http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-142/pool-dapper/ <- you may try those...
[08:26] <otaku-san> Does anyone else have probs with mplayer in Firefox?
[08:26] <zorglu_> otaku-san: i do :)
[08:27] <zorglu_> otaku-san: but i may not be a good example as mplayer fails everywhere on my box
[08:27] <otaku-san> zorglu_: I don't know about you but mine only plays music...and it takes a long time doing it....and vids....well forget that.
[08:28] <andy> thanks zorglu_
[08:28] <otaku-san> zorglu_: I found this...totem-xine-firefox-plugin....thats what Ubuntu uses for Firefox....maybe it'll work in Kubuntu
[08:29] <josey> I can't aubibly hear any degradation but does anyone know if you do lose quality with ogg?
[08:29] <Chousuke> lose quality when you do what? compress CD audio?
[08:29] <Chousuke> yes.
[08:29] <Chousuke> ogg is a lossy codec
[08:29] <zorglu_> otaku-san: ok. likely as firefox is more gnome that kde
[08:29] <jhutchins_wk> josey: Depends on your settings, but it's intended to be lossy.
[08:30] <trappist> josey: you lose quality converting from one lossy format to another, yeah
[08:30] <zorglu_> josey: in short, what they wanna know if loosing quality compared to which original quality
[08:30] <Chousuke> However, it tries to get rid of the data that you would be unable to hear anyway. :)