[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, ok try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:16] <xenex> no0tic, http://rafb.net/paste/results/alBnMk72.html
[03:16] <nickrud> sam_, "_
[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, right
[03:16] <ispiked> xenex: what's your router setup look like?
[03:16] <DEdwards> evilwhisper;  I need drivers for both. atheros for wifi and realtek for lan
[03:16] <xenex> no0tic, the light is on!
[03:16] <ispiked> xenex: using encryption?
[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, good
[03:16] <kriggy> I installed 5.1 today but can't get the x window started, only the bash command prompt.  Cant find x11r86 either.
[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, now sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:16] <xenex> ispiked, no encryption my dad is too lazy to set it up
[03:16] <ispiked> xenex: alright.
[03:16] <Evil_Whisper> My Realtek lan card worked out of the box
[03:16] <no0tic> xenex, to look for wireless networks
[03:16] <borisattva> crim: i got this in return  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[03:17] <no0tic> xenex, paste the output
[03:17] <crimsun> borisattva: I need /all/ of the output
[03:17] <crimsun> borisattva: pastebin
[03:17] <xenex> no0tic, http://rafb.net/paste/results/8BNpc336.html
[03:17] <nemik> how would i figure out /dev/ assignments for 2 new IDE drives i popped in via a PCI IDE interface?
[03:17] <DEdwards> evilwhisper;  reinstall???
[03:17] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: I'll look into the atheros wifi card
[03:17] <crimsun> nemik: dmesg will tell you
[03:17] <DEdwards> evilwhisper; thanks
[03:17] <Evil_Whisper> Wait a sec DEdwards
[03:17] <sam_> kriggy,  did you install x11r86 from synaptic package manager
[03:17] <nemik> crimsun: thanks
[03:17] <durt> kaffeine plays video, but it wont run it in full screen
[03:18] <no0tic> xenex, good, it's full of wireless networks around you
[03:18] <no0tic> xenex, which do you want to connect to
[03:18] <no0tic> xenex, which do you want to connect to?
[03:18] <ispiked> no0tic: far away ones.
[03:18] <kriggy> sam No just did the Cd install.  I thought it would load auto.
[03:18] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Pastebin your lspci
[03:18] <ispiked> no0tic: the quality is all 0. :S
[03:18] <xenex> no0tic, ESSID:"05B405439522" <- that is mine
[03:18] <Evil_Whisper> !pastebin
[03:18] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:18] <borisattva> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/477228
[03:18] <no0tic> ispiked, it's probably due to ndiswrapper
[03:18] <Evil_Whisper> goto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:18] <nickrud> kriggy, did you do a server install? (it's xorg now, by the way)
[03:18] <ispiked> xenex: iwconfig wlan0 essid 05B405439522
[03:18] <no0tic> ispiked, sometimes it doesn't show real datas
[03:18] <Evil_Whisper> and paste there what your lspci says and post the link here
[03:18] <Eleaf> hmm...
[03:18] <ispiked> no0tic: ah.
[03:18] <DEdwards> evilwhisper; this is on a dif comp
[03:19] <nemik> crimsun: i got a whole ton of errors with dmesg...is this bad?
[03:19] <Evil_Whisper> type lspci in console
[03:19] <Evil_Whisper> oh
[03:19] <crimsun> borisattva: of course they don't appear. Those are /backports/
[03:19] <Evil_Whisper> Do you have access to it?
[03:19] <ispiked> xenex: then sudo ifup wlan0.
[03:19] <kriggy> nickrud: no just the standard workstation
[03:19] <sam_> kriggy, from menu bar select system then admin then synaptic package manager
[03:19] <ispiked> xenex: if I miss sudo in some commands, just add it.
[03:19] <Eleaf> is it hard to boot using a diskless system?  Like using the filesystem of another computer to boot another without a harddrive??
[03:19] <DEdwards> evilwhisper; no network at all on other comp.  wait a minute.
[03:19] <Eleaf> Eleaf
[03:19] <xenex> ispiked, Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[03:19] <xenex>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted.
[03:19] <crimsun> borisattva: those packages are in breezy, not breezy-backports
[03:19] <ispiked> xenex: eek.
[03:19] <kriggy> sam: I only have a command prompt.  No bars no no desktop etc.
[03:20] <nickrud> kriggy, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start. that will configure your X as best as ubuntu can, and restart it
[03:20] <borisattva> my synoptic only lists the 'back ports' with multiverse' but i did enable the universe ones just fine
[03:20] <sam_> kriggy,  man
[03:20] <sam_> not good
[03:20] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: lspci | grep -i ethernet
[03:20] <no0tic> xenex, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid 05B405439522 channel 6 mode managed
[03:20] <Eleaf> really, is it easy to setup a diskless system? = p
[03:20] <Evil_Whisper> You should see this
[03:20] <Evil_Whisper> Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]
[03:20] <xenex> no0tic, no output
[03:21] <no0tic> xenex, good
[03:21] <ispiked> xenex: that's good. :)
[03:21] <xenex> no0tic, now the light isnt flashing anymore
[03:21] <ispiked> xenex: now sudo ifup wlan0.
[03:21] <DEdwards> nope
[03:21] <ispiked> no0tic: right?
[03:21] <sam_> nickrud, never heard that problem before
[03:21] <xenex> ispiked, Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[03:21] <no0tic> ispiked, I would rather do sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:21] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Does it output anything?
[03:22] <no0tic> ispiked, I don't know much about ifup script
[03:22] <ispiked> xenex: try what no0tic said.
[03:22] <DEdwards> ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co. Ltd. TRL-8913/8913C/8193C+ (rev 10)
[03:22] <xenex> no0tic, the orange light is flashing now i think its working!
[03:22] <Evil_Whisper> Ok
[03:22] <ispiked> no0tic: I don't now much about dhclient. :P
[03:22] <no0tic> ispiked, :P
[03:22] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: That just means you have a diffrent chipset then I do
[03:22] <nickrud> sam_, he's booting into a virtual console, instead of into X. If you hit ctl-alt-f1, you'll see what I mean. (I hope I'm not insulting your intelligence :)
[03:22] <sam_> ubuntu has been the easiest install I have ever had
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Goto System --> Administration --> Networking
[03:23] <sam_> nickrud,  not at all
[03:23] <no0tic> xenex, did it found a dhcp server?
[03:23] <DEdwards> and ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, INC. AR 5212 802.11abg
[03:23] <ispiked> xenex: what's `iwconfig wlan0' say?
[03:23] <borisattva> crimsun: i apologize for ignorance, i just installed this 2 days ago, but can you provide me with the proper url for NON 'backdoor' repositories? they are not available for chekcing in my synoptics as-is
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: goto System --> Administration --> Networking
[03:23] <sam_> guess I jsut did not fully understand his problem
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: You should see Ethernet Connection
[03:23] <no0tic> xenex, sorry for the bad english :)
[03:23] <crimsun> borisattva: just copy the breezy-backports lines but remove "-backports"
[03:23] <DEdwards> I am a DOOFFF
[03:23] <DEdwards> I see that
[03:23] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Click On It
[03:24] <DEdwards> click enable right
[03:24] <borisattva> thanks!
[03:24] <Evil_Whisper> Yep
[03:24] <Evil_Whisper> Then Try to goto a webpage
[03:24] <Evil_Whisper> like google
[03:24] <sam_> nickrud, why would you want to boot into a virtual console
[03:25] <nickrud> sam_, a lot of reasons, mainly having to do with running a computer as a server, or personal preferences.
[03:25] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Did it work?
[03:25] <ispiked> xenex: still alive? ;)
[03:25] <nickrud> sam_, the ___old___ way was startx, no fancy display managers
[03:25] <DEdwards> evil_whisper, yeah thanks.
[03:26] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: No Problem, Does your wifi work as well?
[03:26] <sureshot> oops
[03:26] <DEdwards> evil_whisper, they both just needed to be enabled and set to DHCP.
[03:26] <sureshot> how does one register there nic on here
[03:27] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Awsome glad it works. :-)
[03:27] <Evil_Whisper> *Awesome
[03:27] <no0tic> xenex, are you still with us?
[03:27] <DEdwards> evil_whisper, thanks for the help.
[03:27] <mwe> sureshot: /msg nickserv help register
[03:28] <ispiked> no0tic: did mode managed fix the essid thing?
[03:28] <kriggy> sam: I'm going to reinstall.  I must not have picked the right settings but it seemed straightforward
[03:28] <Evil_Whisper> DEdwards: Your welcome glad I could help :-)
[03:28] <no0tic> ispiked, no, sudo I think ;)
[03:28] <no0tic> ispiked, I launch iwconfig always with essid and channel options
[03:28] <no0tic> ispiked, mode can be auto
[03:28] <nickrud> kriggy, what kind of video card do you have
[03:29] <dfgas> anyone know what package i have to install to get oRTP? i am using gaim cvs and it requires that package for voice/video and i think i have it installed but its not working
[03:29] <xenex> no0tic, my internet disconnected after i did that last command
[03:29] <xenex> no0tic, so i had to remove my wireless card because nothing else would work
[03:29] <kriggy> It's on the mother board of a Dell Dimension L500cx.  BTY DSL works well.
[03:29] <sam_> nickrud, you still here
[03:29] <nickrud> sam_, yes.
[03:29] <no0tic> xenex, well, because probably the accesspoint dhcp server had changed your default route
[03:30] <sam_> man  I will never and I mean never
[03:30] <sam_> hit ctl,alt,f1 again
[03:30] <nickrud> kriggy, in a terminal, lspci, and look for what kind of video it has
[03:30] <pashaw> sam_,   why?
[03:30] <durt> is there a way to see my apt-get history
[03:30] <durt> ?
[03:30] <no0tic> xenex, now.. do your wireless card have an ip?
[03:30] <nickrud> sam_, ctl-alt-f7 to get back :)
[03:30] <ispiked> durt: /var/log/dpkg is what I use.
[03:30] <no0tic> xenex, dhcp assigned an ip to it?
[03:30] <Evil_Whisper> durt: Synaptic --> File --> History
[03:30] <mwe> or just alt-f7
[03:31] <kriggy> nickrud: to late I'm reisntalling.  I may have chosen server at the very beginning instead of just hitting "enter" at the boot prompt.
[03:31] <sam_> it put me into a state that I have no idea how to get out of
[03:31] <sam_> now you tell me
[03:31] <mwe> sam_: alt-f7
[03:31] <nickrud> kriggy, ok, it's not like it takes long to reinstall :)
[03:31] <pashaw> sam_,   everyoone from space knows that
[03:31] <sam_> not everyone
[03:31] <Yv12345vY> not sure what i did but the system runs much faster now
[03:31] <kriggy> nickrud: thanks for your help!
[03:31] <sam_> due to work I have been using windows for years
[03:32] <nickrud> kriggy, what help? Maybe a little moral support.
[03:32] <borisattva> it worked, and now i understand the consept of repositories configuration. thanks nick, crim
[03:32] <xenex> no0tic, http://rafb.net/paste/results/TALnrD98.html <- what i got from the last command, i also just got disconnected again
[03:32] <sam_> about a month ago I quit work and throw out my windows machines
[03:32] <Evil_Whisper> Can somone help me with this error? wine-0.9.4_0.9.4-1_i386.deb (--install):
[03:32] <Evil_Whisper>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache', which is also in
[03:32] <Evil_Whisper> package capplets-data
[03:32] <mcquaid> so is it all or nothing with sudo? i have users set up so there home is not readable by each other, can I make sudo respect that still? or once they have admin they can read all?
[03:32] <varsendagger> what is a good program to see a harddrive graphically?
[03:32] <kriggy> sam: thanks for your help as well. Are you back to normal now?
[03:32] <sam_> all I have now is ubuntu
[03:33] <no0tic> xenex, why you launched it 3 times?
[03:33] <ispiked> xenex: you get diconnected because you get a new IP.
[03:33] <sam_> yep
[03:33] <xenex> no0tic, i dont know :x
[03:33] <xenex> ispiked, oh...:x
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> Can somone help me with this? trying to overwrite `/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache', which is also in
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> package capplets-data
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> Errors were encountered
[03:33] <no0tic> xenex, :)
[03:33] <nalioth> mcquaid: edit your sudoers file
[03:33] <xenex> no0tic, should i put the card back in?
[03:33] <mwe> Evil_Whisper: yeah, don't install unoffical debs or remove the other package
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> I made that deb
[03:33] <nickrud> mcquaid, you can configure sudo that way, but I don't think it's non-trivial. You might want to look into just giving particular users particular rights with sudo
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> tho
[03:33] <Evil_Whisper> using check install
[03:33] <no0tic> xenex, try, then do the same thing and try to ping something out on the internet
[03:34] <xenex> no0tic, i inserted my wireless card and the light is blinking
[03:34] <ispiked> xenex: try `ping -c 4 google.com'.
[03:35] <xenex> ispiked, my wireless card isnt working, its still trying to find an access point because of the blinking light
[03:35] <niffe> i cant get my linksys wpc54g work :/
[03:35] <ispiked> xenex: ah.
[03:35] <ispiked> xenex: `sudo dhclient wlan0'  should help that.
[03:35] <Evil_Whisper> I can't remove capplets-data it removes gnome
[03:35] <no0tic> ispiked, xenex well, it's 3:35 am here, I'm going to sleep, good luck!
[03:36] <durt> i think when libxine1c2 was upgraded a couple of days ago, totem-xine and other video players stopped working...
[03:36] <mwe> Evil_Whisper: maybe you can do it if you use a different --prefix for ./configure - like /usr/local
[03:36] <ispiked> no0tic: cya.
[03:36] <xenex> no0tic, thanks for your help, i hope this will work :\
[03:36] <Evil_Whisper> Aw I forgot the prefix
[03:36] <sam_> niffe, I have the WMP54G and it worked great
[03:36] <cafuego> !info beagle dapper
[03:36] <ubotu> beagle: (indexing and search tool for your personal data), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.3-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 726 kB, Installed size: 2312 kB
[03:36] <niffe> sam_: my doesnt find anything when i scan with it
[03:36] <cafuego> !info beagle
[03:36] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 836 kB, Installed size: 3100 kB
[03:36] <sureshot> ok all call me stupid but i cant figigure out how to set a password for my nic would someone be so kind to help out a littlel
[03:37] <no0tic> ispiked, xenex bye!
[03:37] <Evil_Whisper> thanks
[03:37] <xenex> ispiked, its still flashing
[03:37] <pashaw> sureshot,   /msg nickserver register <password>
[03:38] <sureshot> thanks
[03:38] <sam_> niffe, check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:38] <pashaw> sureshot,   oops  nickserv
[03:38] <sam_> there are instructions here for installling
[03:38] <ispiked> xenex: so what happens when you do the dhclient thing?
[03:38] <Evil_Whisper> takes forever compiling it :(
[03:38] <robotgeek> sureshot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFIHowto
[03:39] <Yv12345vY> i just started up and none of my doc apps are up.  they gave me some errors.  i'm talking about the power one, the wireless network one and the trash.  can anybody help????
[03:39] <sureshot> i got it thanks.
[03:39] <mwe> Evil_Whisper: it should keep the object files from the previous compile af the new ./configure. thus make should be much faster the second time
[03:40] <niffe> sam_: it says Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface        Subsystem: Linksys: Unknown device 0033
[03:40] <sam_> niffe, think I spoke to soon man I hope you have the WPC54GS
[03:40] <niffe> yep, ver2
[03:41] <cafuego> niffe: I have one of them. Works fine via ndiswrapper (with wpasupplicant)
[03:41] <niffe> hmm, why it is texas instrument ;P
[03:41] <cafuego> niffe: TI makes the ACX chipsets
[03:41] <niffe> cafuego: hmm, what is wpasupplicant?
[03:42] <cafuego> niffe: wpasupplicant is a userspace wpa encryption service.
[03:42] <ispiked> xenex: dhclient is a command that tried to get an IP address for your card using dhcp from your router.
[03:42] <ssdo> anybody have an idea on reboot problems satelite laptop with breezy?
[03:42] <ispiked> ssdo: need more details.
[03:42] <sam_> cafuego, I never could seem to get those wrappers installed correctly
[03:42] <ssdo> it does not reboot after logging out in gnome
[03:42] <skon> has anyone had success running AIM for windows, not gAIM? I can't actually download the DEB file from the site
[03:42] <Yv12345vY> ssdo, yeah, more details.  I have breezy runnin on an alienware laptop and it takes forever to rebot
[03:42] <cafuego> sam_: it's precompiled, how hard can it be?
[03:43] <ispiked> ssdo: why should it?
[03:43] <kaminix> anyone good at compilation problems here? I'm trying to compile GAIM 2.0.0beta1. =/
[03:43] <niffe> cafuego: what if i doent have encryption on the box?
[03:43] <sam_> have no idea
[03:43] <cafuego> niffe: Then you don't bother with wep or wpa.
[03:43] <sam_> spent have the night with no luck
[03:43] <mwe> kaminix: and you don't have all the libraries you need to do it?
[03:43] <kaminix> The config say I do.
[03:43] <ssdo> i want it fixed and i still havent found a solution, i was hoping anybody in here knows
[03:43] <sam_> guess it's jsut me
[03:43] <kaminix> It's the make that gives me error.
[03:43] <kaminix> *errors
[03:44] <niffe> yep, iv booted the box so there is no cyption now
[03:44] <mwe> kaminix: what errors? pastebin
[03:44] <Yv12345vY> ssdo, and you tell it to reboot after logging out??
[03:44] <robotgeek> cafuego: you heard the one on bash.org about stealing wireless, right?
[03:44] <niffe> anyone here to come with realvnc and fix my wlan? :)
[03:44] <kaminix> msrtprecv.c: In function 'ms_rtp_recv_process':
[03:44] <kaminix> msrtprecv.c:123: error: 'struct _RtpSession' has no member named 'payload_type'
[03:44] <kaminix> make[3] : *** [msrtprecv.lo]  Error 1
[03:44] <kaminix> make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/anders/gaim-2.0.0beta1/src/mediastreamer'
[03:44] <kaminix> make[2] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[03:44] <kaminix> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/anders/gaim-2.0.0beta1/src'
[03:44] <kaminix> make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[03:44] <kaminix> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/anders/gaim-2.0.0beta1'
[03:44] <kaminix> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[03:44] <mwe> kaminix: don't paste in here
[03:44] <ssdo> yup, then verbose follows telling me its shutting down then after "rebooting" appears, laptop screen just go black
[03:44] <kaminix> Where then?
[03:45] <mwe> !paste
[03:45] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:45] <mwe> there
[03:45] <skon> nobody's tried AIM for linux?
[03:45] <mwe> then paste the url to your paste in here
[03:45] <cafuego> kaminix: Broken code. rm -rf or go to #c./
[03:45] <Yv12345vY> ssdo, how old is the laptop?  back in the day i used to have similar problems with my old ibm
[03:45] <sam_> well I need to go get some food. thanks to all
[03:45] <sam_> later
[03:45] <ssdo> i have to push power button to start it again...shutdown is ok, its reboot thats a problem
[03:45] <kaminix> What's #c./
[03:45] <niffe> anyone here to come with realvnc and fix my wlan? :)
[03:46] <cafuego> kaminix: the C help channel.
[03:46] <Yv12345vY> not sure ssdo, sorry
[03:46] <ssdo> satellite a10, pemtium4,ram 256mb, intel extreme graphics
[03:46] <kaminix> How do I fix a broken code? Just reconfigure the source?
[03:46] <cafuego> Your problem is not an Ubuntu problem.
[03:46] <mwe> kaminix: paste at the pastebin, but more output and I'll have a look
[03:46] <NCLife> what programm would you guys suggest for dvd burning?
[03:47] <Zen> Yeah, so my installation of Ubuntu died some how =S
[03:47] <Zen> no idea
[03:47] <Eleaf> I like k3b NCLife
[03:47] <kaminix> mwe, how much more? That's where the error messages start.
[03:48] <NCLife> thanks Eleaf, i shall give it a try
[03:48] <mwe> kaminix: maybe 50 lines back upto and including the error
[03:48] <cafuego> Like I said, the code is broken. If you don't know C, just give up, delete it.
[03:49] <mwe> Well it compiled for me, so the code is not broken
[03:49] <Zen> Any idea why ubuntu might just die on me?  It won't properly finish bootup--it croaks after about 5 seconds on "Calculating Modules" during startup
[03:49] <skon> Zen: error messages?
[03:49] <cafuego> mwe: if you get missing members in structs, the code *is* broken. Either via basic erro or through missing includes.
[03:49] <kaminix> mwe, I have to redo the compilation first, 'cause most of it is out of history, I'll get back to you.
[03:49] <Zen> skon, something about mounting the FS I believe
[03:50] <adrian__> #web
[03:50] <Zen> though I know the drive is fine, it is the same drive I run Windows off of
[03:50] <adrian__> joind#web
[03:50] <cafuego> adrian__: /join #web
[03:50] <adrian__> join#web
[03:51] <adrian__> thanks cafuego
[03:51] <Zen> oh well (looks sad) guess I'll just reinstall
[03:51] <niffe> anyone here willing to fix my wlan with realvnc? msg me.
[03:51] <skon> Zen: has it been partitioned for ext2?
[03:51] <nemik> crimsun and DewDude: thanks for the help! i edited the fstab now and got the NTFS drives to work perfectly! thanks for the help guys
[03:51] <Zen> can linux format a partition FAT32?
[03:51] <cafuego> Zen: yes. 'mkfs.vfat' can do that.
[03:51] <kaminix> Could the code break if I ./configure a lot with different flags?
[03:52] <cafuego> kaminix: Not normally. I'd lay the blame squarly with the authors.
[03:53] <Zen> skon, it was formatted Reiser
[03:53] <DewDude> no problem
[03:53] <DewDude> i totally forgot
[03:54] <skon> What is Reiser
[03:54] <h4x> hello. Does ubuntu have portage? like gentoo
[03:54] <crimsun> h4x: no.
[03:54] <h4x> crimsun: thanks
[03:55] <skon> h4x: apt-get or synaptic
[03:55] <Zen> skon, ReiserFS--a high performance (supposedly) filesystem http://www.namesys.com/
[03:55] <skon> Zen: why don't you just do ext2 ? that's what linux usually is
[03:56] <Zen> skon, linux is usually used with ext3 =S
[03:57] <kaminix> Is there anyway to know if the new release of xorg and gaim will be in dapper?
[03:57] <crimsun> kaminix: post-NY, yes
[03:58] <nickrud> kaminix, you can check the current package status for dapper on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <skon> or that
[03:58] <skon> why not use that
[03:58] <kaminix> Is it post-NY the freeze-thingie will be? When they stop adding programs to dapper?
[03:59] <durt> im convince the problem is that libxine1c2 1.0.1-1ubuntu10 works but the newer 1.0.1-1ubuntu10.2 doesnt. where can i get my hands on this older version?
[04:00] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me print with a canon i560? i have downloaded drivers and done everything listed in the canon iXXX howto thread but it is still not working
[04:00] <Evil_Whisper> later guys
[04:00] <Zen> skon, the performance increase by using Reiser is quite noticable, especially compared to journaled ext3 (normal)
[04:00] <Amaranth> durt: 10.2 means it's a security update, you should file a bug so they can make the security fix unbreak things
[04:00] <Evil_Whisper> bye
[04:00] <crimsun> kaminix: no, post-NY == post-New Year
[04:00] <skon> Oh, you're probably right, I've just never heard of it, so it could be a compatibility issue with the Ubuntu installer
[04:00] <crimsun> kaminix: obviously Upstream Version Freeze (UVF) means nothing new will go in
[04:01] <Amaranth> durt: otherwise, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xine-lib/libxine1c2_1.0.1-1ubuntu10_i386.deb
[04:01] <Amaranth> durt: just make sure you don't let synaptic, apt-get, update-notifier, etc upgrade it again
[04:01] <kaminix> I meant if the UFV will be post-NY. :)
[04:01] <crimsun> kaminix: yes, UVF is post-NY
[04:02] <nemik> so when i try to open some wmv files, i get a warning saying it could be a security risk, but i can open them with the "open with" application, is this Xine spitting this error?
[04:02] <kaminix> mwe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6101 pasted.
[04:02] <ElitePete> nemik, no.
[04:02] <Zen> skon, that's the thing--I would understand that, but I've been using this for over a month
[04:02] <kaminix> 87 rows
[04:02] <nemik> ElitePete: is there a way to get rid of the warning so it will play just when i double-click?
[04:02] <Amaranth> nemik: no, that's nautilus being stupid
[04:03] <niffe> alvanson: can you see my msg
[04:03] <ElitePete> nemik, right click the file "open with"
[04:03] <Amaranth> nemik: the .wmv part of the file says it's one mimetype, the actual file says it's another
[04:03] <Amaranth> nemik: nautilus warns you about this because someone could be tricking you into opening a bad file
[04:03] <nemik> Amaranth ElitePete: oh ok, i see
[04:03] <Yv12345vY> anybody know how to fix this "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet"???
[04:03] <skon> Zen: I see...well I'm sorry I don't have much to offer, you seem to know more about this than I do right now
[04:03] <Amaranth> Yv12345vY: dapper?
[04:03] <Wilf> can ubuntu convert NTFS to EXT3 without wiping the data?
[04:04] <Amaranth> Wilf: No, but you can resize the NTFS to make room for an ext3 partition.
[04:04] <Yv12345vY> Amaranth, what's dapper?
[04:04] <Wilf> mmmm that doesn't help me...
[04:05] <Amaranth> Yv12345vY: I'll take that as a no. :) What did you do before this started happening?
[04:05] <Wilf> you see i've been meaning to go back to ubuntu (i used to use it alot, but school required me to use some software suites that only run under windows)
[04:05] <Wilf> so now it has corrupted somehow, so perfect time to swap
[04:05] <Yv12345vY> Amaranth, i wanted to delete a file
[04:05] <cyphase> does anyone know of a tool that can take an ethereal capture file and return all the web pages that were requested?
[04:05] <Wilf> however my D: is full of music and stuff...
[04:05] <Yv12345vY> Amaranth, i got similar errors at startup
[04:05] <purplefeltangel> wilf: i don't know about that, but try downloading ntfsprogs. it does stuff with ntfs.
[04:05] <Amaranth> Yv12345vY: hrm
[04:06] <cyphase> i know that doesn't exactly make sense, so you can ask what i mean :P
[04:06] <Amaranth> Yv12345vY: i dunno, sorry
[04:06] <Wilf> mmmmk, thanks purplefeltangel and Amaranth.
[04:06] <Yv12345vY> could this be nautilus related??
[04:06] <Yv12345vY> i wonder
[04:06] <netdur> is there place for "dapper wishlist"?
[04:06] <pashaw> Wilf, leave it ntfs for now     youll be able to read it  just not write to safely
[04:06] <Amaranth> Wilf: You could resize the NTFS, install ubuntu in the free space, copy things over, delete the NTFS, then resize the ext3.
[04:06] <durt> sorry amaranth, my battery just died :( where'd you say that old libxine was and where do i file a bug? thanks
[04:07] <Eleaf> is there an easy way to diskless boot?
[04:07] <Amaranth> Wilf: Of course somewhere along that trip you'll probably end up killing a partition anyway so it's probably not the best idea.
[04:07] <Amaranth> durt: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xine-lib/libxine1c2_1.0.1-1ubuntu10_i386.deb
[04:07] <Amaranth> durt: file a bug at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <Amaranth> !usbbot
[04:07] <ubotu> Amaranth: Not a clue
[04:07] <Amaranth> err
[04:07] <durt> thanks
[04:08] <Amaranth> Eleaf: I guess not. :/
[04:08] <cafuego> Eleaf: PXE
[04:11] <durt> it works now :) - i guess it was a bug
[04:11] <niffe> anyone here willing to fix my wlan with realvnc? msg me.
[04:13] <Syco54645> hi i need some help
[04:13] <Syco54645> my harddrive fried
[04:13] <Zen> any word on ATI 3D support in AMD64 linux distros?
[04:13] <Syco54645> so i am getting a new one soon
[04:13] <alvanson> welcome to my world
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> Zen: there is a word, and the word is no
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> just use i386
[04:14] <skierkegaard> how do i mount a samba share?
[04:14] <gimmulf> install a 32bit distro, that's what i did after trying ubuntu4 distro... Had problems with almost everything :)
[04:14] <Syco54645> but i ordered an sata and my board doesnt support it, so i am going to need to get an sata controller.  i know that promise cards work very well in linux (at least from my experience), but i already have a promise ide controller in my machine.  would a promise sata controller conflict with the ide controller
[04:14] <Hydroksyde> Zen, the other word is buy an NVidia card
[04:15] <Syco54645> and since i want to get this system up and going asap, i was wondering if anyone has any experience with sata controllers in linux and could recommend one to me
[04:15] <Hydroksyde> damn
[04:16] <Syco54645> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816102060
[04:16] <Syco54645> that is the one that i am looking at
[04:16] <Hikaru79> Whenever I open a text file with Gedit from a mounted FTP share using Nautilus, it opens it read-only. I *do* have write permission to the directory, so why can't gEdit open the file in anything but read-only? =/
[04:16] <skierkegaard> anyone here answering questions?
[04:16] <pashaw> skierkegaard,   linux to windows   or windows to linux?
[04:16] <Syco54645> no
[04:16] <nickrud> skierkegaard, no
[04:16] <Syco54645> pashaw no
[04:16] <admrl> nope i dont think anyone answers questions on here
[04:16] <Syco54645> lol
[04:16] <admrl> go to #questions to ask them
[04:16] <skierkegaard> its a linux system both sides
[04:16] <mwe> cafuego: if the code for gaim2-beta1 is broken, I wonder why it compiles for me
[04:16] <pashaw> skierkegaard,   then why are you using smb
[04:17] <Hikaru79> skierkegaard, then use NFS or something, not smb =/
[04:17] <parksy> crimsun: still around? was talking to you earlier about a sound card
[04:17] <skierkegaard> ok, maybe im messed up, what if it is windows?
[04:17] <Hikaru79> Windows client or windows server?
[04:17] <jose> anyone care to help me?
[04:17] <skierkegaard> client
[04:17] <pashaw> skierkegaard,   windows uses smb  linux to linux  nfs is better
[04:18] <nickrud> !anyone
[04:18] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[04:18] <nickrud> jose, that means just ask :)
[04:18] <mwe> kaminix: still here?
[04:18] <ispiked> what does ubuntu do with /etc/hostname?
[04:18] <jose> yeah I kinda figured that...lol
[04:18] <skierkegaard> ubotu, because i often get ignored
[04:18] <ubotu> skierkegaard: I haven't a clue
[04:18] <jose> I need help installing WINE
[04:19] <nickrud> skierkegaard, you're not getting ignored, it's just
[04:19] <mwe> jose: sudo apt-get install wine
[04:19] <jose> and that mean what?
[04:19] <thunderbolt> Anyone have any experience installing a Epson Stylus CX3700 or CX3800 or CX3800, or compiling and installing guten-print 5rc1 without breaking anything?
[04:20] <nickrud> jose, apt-get is THE tool for getting software
[04:20] <jose> where do I get it?
[04:20] <thunderbolt> jose: it's installed with your base ubuntu system.
[04:20] <Syco54645> anyone here that can help me out with the sata?
[04:20] <nickrud> jose, it's on your system. Have you ever used a command line (if I'm insulting your intelligence, sorry :)
[04:21] <jose> how do I access it?  Sorry for all the questions..still learing
[04:21] <jose> that's ok nickrud
[04:21] <nickrud> jose, then, in a terminal, sudo apt-get install wine
[04:22] <thunderbolt> Anyone have experience with gutenprint?
[04:22] <thunderbolt> Installing it from source?
[04:23] <whyameye> Is there a way to keep programs from stealing focus from each other? I'm running one program and suddenly OpenOffice pops up and asks me about saving something. In Windows you can prevent programs from stealing focus from each other. Is there a way to do this with ubuntu?
[04:23] <nickrud> jose, if that doesn't find wine, say so.
[04:23] <nickrud> go bengals
[04:24] <mwe> nickrud: he needs to enable universe if he hasn't, to get wine
[04:24] <brownsfan> nickrud: they are having a good year
[04:24] <thunderbolt> Or alternatively, precautions to take before installing something from source, in case stuff breaks.
[04:24] <nickrud> mwe, exctly
[04:24] <jose> it's asking me for a password but it won't let me type anything
[04:25] <nickrud> jose, it just doesn't repeat your keystrokes, for security
[04:25] <Madpilot> jose: just type, passwords are hidden
[04:25] <mustard5> jose, you can't see it , but its being entered
[04:25] <pashaw> whyameye, set your current window   to stay on top
[04:25] <nickrud> enter your own password
[04:25] <kriggy> nickrud: The re-install worked.
[04:25] <mwe> kaminix: ping
[04:25] <Hydroksyde> are linmodem drivers in ubuntu anywhere?
[04:25] <kaminix> mwe, I'm here.
[04:25] <whyameye> pashaw: so then when I *want* to switch I'd have to undo that. Clumsy.
[04:25] <nickrud> kriggy, great.
[04:25] <mwe> kaminix: this is a breezy system?
[04:25] <sambagirl> happy holidays from your brasilian freind, chao!
[04:25] <whyameye> I want to set it up so *I* choose the focus of the program, not Gnome.
[04:26] <Hydroksyde> this is for an intel 436EP
[04:26] <pashaw> whyameye, may be a nicer way   but that works
[04:26] <Hydroksyde> i mean
[04:26] <Hydroksyde> 536EP
[04:26] <thunderbolt> Hydroksyde: I don't see any linmodem stuff in apt-cache, there are some non-free drivers for winmodems, though.
[04:26] <mustard5> Hydroksyde, not in the repositories I don't think..you need to get hem from an outside source
[04:26] <Hydroksyde> mustard5, thought so
[04:26] <kaminix> Kind of... I did a server installation and aptituded in xorg and fluxbox.
[04:26] <mustard5> !winmodem
[04:26] <ubotu> winmodem is probably To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[04:26] <Hikaru79> Is it possible to make nautilus scripts appear in the primary context menu, not the "Scripts" submenu? I have an "Open Terminal Here" script, but its so inconvenient to go to the submenu to use it :(
[04:26] <Hikaru79> I know Hoary used to have it in the first level.
[04:26] <whyameye> pashaw: it doesn't do what I want.
[04:27] <Hikaru79> Is it still possible to do that, or was that script compiled into Nautilus?
[04:27] <dima_> hey how can i install LiVES of Ubuntu ???
[04:27] <jose> i think it's installing now
[04:27] <nickrud> Hikaru79, no, but you could install nautilus-open-terminal
[04:27] <mwe> kaminix: yeah, but you use breezy in your sources.list, right?
[04:27] <Hikaru79> dima_, you don't install lives...
[04:27] <nickrud> it's on the main menu
[04:27] <kaminix> mwe, yes.
[04:27] <nickrud> *context
[04:27] <mustard5> Hikaru79, you on gnome?
[04:27] <Hikaru79> Oh, hey, cool. Thanks nickrud.
[04:27] <Hikaru79> mustard5, yeah.
[04:27] <Madpilot> Hikaru79: does your right-click menu have an "Open in Terminal" option when you right-click a directory?
[04:27] <mwe> kaminix: did you install libao-dev and libaudiofile-dev, like suggested in README?
[04:28] <dima_> no i mean video editing software
[04:28] <mustard5> Hikaru79, there is a package you can install that puts a terminal option in your context menu
[04:28] <Hikaru79> Madpilot, no, but it has Scripts->Open Terminal Here
[04:28] <Hikaru79> Okay, yes, thanks :)
[04:28] <Hikaru79> But, for future reference, is it possible anyway?
[04:28] <Hikaru79> With other scripts, for example>?
[04:28] <mwe> kaminix: and is your system up to date -eg sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:28] <kaminix> mwe, good idea to use the readme file. Well... those were some of the files I ended up installing.
[04:28] <kaminix> Yes.
[04:29] <Madpilot> Hikaru79: don't think so, but I guess I got the right-click option from the nautilus-open-terminal package
[04:29] <mwe> kaminix: so libao-dev and libaudiofile-dev are installed?
[04:29] <kaminix> mwe, yes.
[04:29] <dima_> Does anybody know how to instal "LiVES"- video editing software for UBUNTU???
[04:29] <BlankFie> What is the command line program on Ubuntu to configure X?
[04:29] <mustard5> Madpilot, yeah, it would be handy
[04:30] <kaminix> This is the configuration I was using btw, thought it might be of interest... ./configure --with-speex --enable-vv=yes --enable-mono=yes --enable-gnutls=yes --enable-dbus --disable-perl
[04:30] <mwe> kaminix: Then I'm kinda lost, sorry. it compiles fine for me
[04:30] <jose> If it says it's install now where do I go to to launch it?
[04:30] <Madpilot> mustard5: the other little tweak that should be in by default, IMO, is the "turn Numlock on by default" package - numlockx, I think it's called...
[04:31] <mwe> kaminix: ok.
[04:31] <kaminix> mwe, still no idea? =/
[04:31] <mwe> kaminix: speex is that a phone thing?
[04:31] <blanky> !backports
[04:31] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[04:31] <dima_> does anybody know any good video editing software ???
[04:31] <kaminix> It's an audio codec, think it's used for phoneing.
[04:31] <mustard5> Madpilot, yes. I agree. :)  I'm always tapping away on the numpad fruitlessly when I first start up :)
[04:32] <blanky> !ati
[04:32] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:32] <Madpilot> mustard5: enabling the numlock fix is fairly easy - ask google or search ubuntuforums...
[04:32] <niffe> alvanson: here?
[04:32] <mwe> kaminix: can you compile it if you just ./configure --prefix=/usr/local ?
[04:33] <kaminix> mwe, I'll see.
[04:33] <kaminix> First time it gave an error about my Perl libaries though, shouldn't I include --disable-perl?
[04:34] <mwe> kaminix: I didn't
[04:34] <lowman62> what file type would a lexar jumpdrive secure be?
[04:34] <kaminix> mwe, what perl libaries do you have installed?
[04:35] <kaminix> Now I don't have mono support on... won't I miss out on some cool features then?
[04:35] <mwe> kaminix: a lot. what is it complaining about?
[04:36] <jose> where do I go to luanch WINE?
[04:36] <kaminix> mwe, don't remember, it was hours ago and I solved it with "--disable-perl". I think it said something about Perl libaries not beaing in the right place.
[04:36] <lowman62> i been searching all day to this stupid jumpdrive to work...i got it finally mounted but I cannot write to it :(
[04:37] <mwe> kaminix: I tend to think it's the speex that's causing the error, since the error is about rtc which has to do with voip
[04:38] <mwe> kaminix: but disabling perl shouldn't cause compile errors I guess
[04:38] <Eleaf> hmm
[04:38] <kaminix> mwe, Got the perl error. Should I paste it or just reconfigure with --disable-perl?
[04:38] <lowman62> is nfsd a filesystem format? :P
[04:38] <mustard5> lowman, ntfs is
[04:38] <kaminix> mwe, it was when I disabled perl the problem solved.
[04:38] <mustard5> lowman62, dont' know about nfsd
[04:39] <mwe> kaminix: well if you care about perl, paste the error
[04:39] <lowman62> hmmm! I wonder if it is ntfs...i think i tried that already tho :P
[04:39] <Eleaf> I may use the livecd for a computer to add it to my renderfarm (it doesn't have a harddrive)  will I be able to enable ssh, since by default ubuntu doesn't come with openssh server...
[04:39] <kaminix> I don't know if I do... are there any cool features if I include perl? :p
[04:39] <Amaranth> no paste
[04:39] <mwe> kaminix: or try ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --disable-perl
[04:39] <Eleaf> hmm
[04:39] <mustard5> lowman62, so what is the name of the device then?
[04:40] <mustard5> lowman62, have you done a sudo fdisk -l <insert device name here> command?
[04:40] <mwe> kaminix: I haven't used it, but I'm sure you can do some cool scripting if you're into that sort of thing
[04:40] <BlankFie> So for some reason ubuntu stopped working O_o
[04:40] <lowman62> yes I did that and it did not show up
[04:40] <BlankFie> Kind of.
[04:40] <kaminix> mwe, ok, I'm not, so I'll disable it. :)
[04:41] <BlankFie> X won't start and it's not picking up my network card.
[04:41] <lowman62> "/dev/sdb"
[04:41] <BlankFie> (That I can tell
[04:41] <mwe> kaminix: yeah. try ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --disable-perl
[04:41] <blanky> !ati
[04:41] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:41] <mustard5> lowman62, if its ntfs then linux can't in a general sense write to ntfs
[04:41] <mustard5> lowman62, certain experimental programs can do it.
[04:41] <kaminix> mwe, do you know if there's anything cool I need mono for? Or is it just scripting thingies too?
[04:41] <BlankFie> The last thing I did was install Cluster Knoppix and reconfigured LILO
[04:42] <mwe> kaminix: I don't know. disabling stuff should not cause compile errors, I think
[04:42] <nickrud> kaminix, I just dropped back in, but off the top of my head?: beagle, muine, tomboy, all mono things I use daily
[04:42] <lowman62> mustard5: i think i messed it up the last time i had mandrake installed...see it used to have a little program built into it and i deleted it off and so i thought maybe if i could mount it i could share it to my windows box and change its format...i am not even sure if you can do that \
[04:42] <mwe> kaminix: I'm more worried about the speex, but it's just a hunch
[04:43] <kaminix> But I'm thinking about enabling it, since I might miss out on cool features if I don't.
[04:43] <kaminix> making ./configure --disable-perl --prefix=/usr/local now
[04:43] <blanky> hey guys, in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI , it says something about using drivers from ati.com, are they better than the ones found in synaptic?
[04:43] <phasegen> Anyone have a recommendation for a good all-in-one ?  My epson just died...
[04:43] <mwe> kaminix: ok. then see if make succeeds
[04:43] <Kyral> HP PSC1210
[04:43] <Madpilot> phasegen: get an HP, they seem to work best with Linux
[04:43] <nickrud> phasegen, don't get an psc1510
[04:44] <mustard5> lowman62, ah ok..my usb stick has something similar...a built in program for locking the device with a password or something
[04:44] <kaminix> Is "tcl_cmds.c:631: warning: passing argument 3 of 'Tcl_GetIndexFromObj' from incompatible pointer type
[04:44] <kaminix> " a bad start? :p
[04:44] <thunderbolt> phasegen: The older Epson Stylus CXs work well.
[04:44] <phasegen> I never could get the epson to scan.  It was a cx4600.
[04:44] <lowman62> mustard5: yes thats it...it's a lexar secure jumpdrive 128 meg
[04:45] <thunderbolt> ah.
[04:45] <nickrud> phasegen, if you go hp psc, make sure you get one with the 45 black ink cartridge, it's the most cost effective.
[04:45] <mustard5> lowman62, hmm...have you tried looking for their website to see if they can help with the problem?
[04:45] <mwe> kaminix: don't worry too much as long as it's only warnings
[04:45] <kaminix> mwe, ok
[04:46] <lowman62> mustard5: yes I did and they had the driver for windows but of course it gets recognized in windows xp but doesn't show up
[04:46] <Madpilot> phasegen: have a look at both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[04:46] <lowman62> it shows in ubuntu but is not writable
[04:46] <mustard5> lowman62, hmm k
[04:46] <mustard5> lowman62, bit of a tricky problem really
[04:46] <lowman62> i am beginning to think it is better to hang it on the tree as a decoration instead :(
[04:47] <Ralken> anyone here useing banshee
[04:47] <lowman62> mustard5: it sure is...i have exhausted myself <--doesn't give up easy on things at all
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman, I found sometimes that windows always recognise the second 'drive' when you plug it in
[04:48] <Eleaf> I just burnt the livecd but it still won't work..
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman62, maybe you could try rebooting with the usb stick still in place
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman62, in windows that is
[04:48] <Ralken> anyone here using banshee
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman62, my second 'drive' on the usb stick sometimes shows up as a floppy device
[04:48] <Ralken> well better question anyone here can help me get banshee working correctly under ubuntu
[04:48] <mustard5> lowman62, that was on windows 98 though
[04:49] <lowman62> mustard5: I tried that several times as well as tweaking the registry to see if I could get it to show...I think it is just toasted...and the time spent i could save and just buy another one ...bigger and better LOL
[04:49] <mustard5> lowman62, probably right :)
[04:49] <mwe> kaminix: well I just tried to compile with speex support and it succeded
[04:49] <mustard5> lowman62, I can imagine its annoying to have toasted it though :)
[04:49] <lowman62> *hangs it on the tree* :P
[04:49] <kaminix> mwe, bad news for me, right?
[04:49] <kaminix> :(
[04:50] <lowman62> ya it has some 3d files on it I really wanted...from maya
[04:50] <ubuntu> a
[04:50] <ubuntu> TEST
[04:50] <lowman62> 6 months worth of work :(
[04:50] <Ralken> I just ripped a cd using mp3 encoding with banshee and I tryed to play it and banshee just cycles through the play list without playing anything, any suggestions?
[04:50] <kaminix> mwe, did you install speex from the repos or from source?
[04:50] <ubuntu> ^^
[04:51] <ubuntu> i am idiot
[04:51] <lowman62> <--me too
[04:51] <lowman62> :(
[04:51] <mwe> kaminix: from the repos. I'm thinking maybe it's the mono that's causing the error though
[04:51] <mwe> kaminix: has it finished compiling?
[04:52] <kaminix> mwe, ok, I installed mine from source 'cause I got some error from the repo-versions.
[04:52] <lowman62> isn't mono visual basic for linux? or am I wa off here?
[04:52] <kaminix> mwe, 1 GHz :)
[04:52] <kaminix> lowman62, it's .net for linux
[04:52] <kaminix> lowman62, actully, it's for Linux, Windows and Mac.
[04:52] <lowman62> ya .net...i am still trying to wrap my brain around that .net stuff
[04:52] <kaminix> :)
[04:53] <kaminix> How do I set a gtk-theme outside of gnome?
[04:53] <mwe> kaminix: yeah. actually I got a configure error with speex just now, too
[04:53] <kaminix> Seems to be working now. :)
[04:53] <lowman62> cool! i am bustin a hump to learn java...i am going for scjp
[04:53] <kaminix> installing now. :)
[04:53] <mwe> lowman62: it's for .net stuff, like c#
[04:54] <lowman62> <--still having trouble getting a grip on oop <--is not like c
[04:55] <lowman62> ya I read a book about c# ...i am still sticking to c...at least for now LOL
[04:55] <kaminix> Crap... now I don't have gnutls. :p I'll have to redo the compiling. :p
[04:55] <kaminix> Aw well, I can atleast see if it's working. :)
[04:55] <Hydroksyde> the people on the ubuntu CD cover look happy
[04:55] <kaminix> Hydroksyde, why wouldn't they be? ;)
[04:55] <mwe> kaminix: good. now you need to figure which option caused the error. just experiment
[04:56] <lowman62> Hydroksyde: how long did you wait till you got your cd's?
[04:56] <lowman62> i am on week 8 ...*tick tick tick*
[04:56] <Hydroksyde> lowman62, about a month or two
[04:56] <Hydroksyde> i wasn't counting
[04:56] <mwe> lowman62: I'm into c# if you know C and want to learn oop, try C++
[04:56] <Hydroksyde> but it was a while
[04:56] <kaminix> Hmm.. why don't I have a tray-icon?
[04:57] <Hydroksyde> I ordered when 5.04 was current, and got my 5.04 CDs when 5.10 was out
[04:57] <BoukenPink> Okay, y'all... I just tried to install xorg-driver-fglrx like from the starter guide on the wiki, but when I have it enabled in xorg.conf, my computer will freeze a couple minutes after logging in every time... anyone know what the deal might be?
[04:57] <lowman62> mwe: I have been told that before...and your probably right it would probably be a better route to go...I have never been known to take the easy road tho <--subborn taurean :|
[04:57] <mwe> kaminix: I don't know. I do
[04:57] <Hydroksyde> if anybody is in my half of the world, I could send some ubuntu 5.10 CDs
[04:58] <mustard5> BoukenPink, you tried inspecting your Xorg.0.log?
[04:58] <lowman62> Hydroksyde: what part of the world would that be?
[04:58] <mustard5> BoukenPink, that might give some clues as to what is happening
[04:58] <mwe> lowman62: you only had --disable-perl different from me
[04:58] <kaminix> mwe, is ther anyway to tell the configure that I'm in gnome? I tihnk it might have to do with me being in fluxbox.
[04:58] <lowman62> <--savannah, GA
[04:58] <Hydroksyde> 90 degrees through 270 degrees
[04:58] <xerophyte>  http://qdb.us/32511
[04:58] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Er... Where would I find that? :)
[04:58] <mustard5> BoukenPink, its in /var/log
[04:58] <Hydroksyde> i live in new zealand
[04:58] <thunderbolt> KIWI!
[04:58] <BoukenPink> mustard5, thanks, I'll take a look.
[04:58] <thunderbolt> :-D
[04:59] <mustard5> BoukenPink, k..good luck
[04:59] <lowman62> ok...that should take me a while to figgy that out...nah my brain hurts from the jumpdrive issue..:P
[04:59] <Ralken> I just ripped a cd into mp3 format using banshee.  When I try to play the mp3's back it doesnt work. Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong.
[04:59] <mwe> kaminix: try ro run it from gnome or kde and see if you get the tray icon
[04:59] <mwe> kaminix: maybe it doesn't like the slit in fluxbox
[05:00] <Epic|> I know this is an ubuntu channel but do any of you know of software routers that do QoS?
[05:00] <Hydroksyde> Ralken, do you have the MP3 decoder installed
[05:00] <Epic|> I think it's QoS. Where you can specify traffic that gets first dibs on teh connection
[05:00] <kaminix> I tihnk it has to do with the compilation. 'cause I get a tray icon with Kopete and the repo-version of GAIM.
[05:00] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, IPcop
[05:00] <mwe> kaminix: it shouldn't matter what wm you're in when compiling
[05:00] <Epic|> Really. Sweet. Thanks
[05:00] <Ralken> Hydroksyde,  I think I do
[05:00] <lowman62> well i was born Longitude: 80W08 Latitude: 26N08 where is that?
[05:01] <Ralken> Hydroksyde, gstream something?
[05:01] <mwe> kaminix: ok. maybe the --disable-perl thing, though it sounds weird
[05:01] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, there's another freebsd based router called monowall or something...
[05:01] <Amaranth> !mp3
[05:01] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <Hydroksyde> Ralken, not sure
[05:01] <Hydroksyde> what ubotu said
[05:01] <Epic|> Thought that required programming skillz?
[05:01] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, I don't think so
[05:01] <kaminix> mwe, Why should it need perl to get me a tray icon?
[05:01] <Epic|> OK thanks
[05:01] <thunderbolt> lowman62: You were born in Florida, perhaps?
[05:02] <Hydroksyde> I use IPCop, that works for me
[05:02] <BoukenPink> mustard5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6102 <- It repeats something along these lines several times.
[05:02] <Epic|> How does that compair to smoothwall?
[05:02] <mwe> kaminix: I don't know. it's just that it's the only configure option you had different from mine
[05:02] <lowman62> thunderbolt: ding ding ding you are a winner... :P
[05:02] <thunderbolt> This 'inter-net' is such a great thing.
[05:03] <mustard5> BoukenPink, k..I'll see if I can make sense of it, but I am no expert :)
[05:03] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, i've never tried smoothwall, but it was once based on smoothwall
[05:03] <kaminix> I think I remember something from when compiling 1.5 in Gnome that the ./configure printed something about me being in gnome somewhere in the first like... 10 lines or something.
[05:03] <Epic|> Alright. I'll give it a try. THanks alot
[05:03] <lowman62> actually I copied the wrong one..that was my wifes...mine is this... long: 79W23  lat:43N39
[05:03] <Hydroksyde> Epic|, it's LFS now, and hasn't lost any features when it moves
[05:03] <ubuntu> woo
[05:03] <lowman62> but you were right
[05:03] <BoukenPink> mustard5, thanks. :D Nearly everyone's likely more of an expert than me. ;)
[05:04] <mwe> kaminix: I see. I compiled it in kde
[05:04] <Kyral> !flash
[05:04] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:04] <kaminix> Does it say anything about what wm you're using?
[05:05] <dfgas> root@ubuntu:/home/dfgas# apt-get build-dep gaim
[05:05] <dfgas> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[05:05] <dfgas> any idea how i fix that
[05:05] <Ralken> Hydroksyde, thanks I only had half of what I needed lol
[05:05] <nickrud> dfgas, you need 'deb-src' lines that duplicate the 'deb' lines
[05:06] <dfgas> k
[05:06] <jessica_> hello
[05:06] <nickrud> dfgas, in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <mustard5> BoukenPink, you on gnome or kde?  just curious
[05:06] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Gnome
[05:06] <Wilf> not good.
[05:06] <mustard5> BoukenPink, k
[05:07] <jessica_> this is gonna sound really stupid but how do you install stuff on ubuntu? i've never used linux before
[05:07] <Wilf> ubuntu ad a kernal panic while booting
[05:07] <Wilf> off a live CD! :<
[05:07] <Wilf> jessica_, put cd in cd drive, set bios to boot off cd, reboot computer, follow the prompts.
[05:07] <mwe> kaminix: I didn't notice. I though you could even compile it from the terminal outside of X. let me check though
[05:07] <nickrud> jessica_, you should start with, from the top panel, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[05:08] <Epic|> Hydroksyde, QoS is where you can specify certain traffic gets through before another type, right?
[05:08] <jessica_> ok
[05:08] <kaminix> mwe, ok
[05:08] <mustard5> BoukenPink, can have a link to the how to and a pastebin of your xorg.conf please?
[05:08] <mwe> kaminix: it says checking for a lot of compilers in the beginning, no mentioning of wm
[05:09] <kaminix> Should I have one of those fortran compilers it's asking for?
[05:09] <jessica_> ok i got the package manager up, anything else or is it self explanatory?
[05:09] <gimmulf> how do i see a websites pagerank using googlebar?
[05:09] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Sure, just a sec. :D
[05:09] <mwe> kaminix: fortran.  :) But the help is pretty good
[05:10] <kaminix> mwe, hmm.. aw well, at least I got it working. It'd make sense for me to go to bed now... :p It's 5:10AM here. :p
[05:10] <kaminix> btw, how do I start a webcam convo with someone?
[05:10] <mwe> kaminix: I don't have all that crap, f77, fortran, fort and what not
[05:11] <jessica_> lol sorry guys its like my first day using this
[05:11] <mwe> kaminix: good night :)
[05:11] <BoukenPink> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6103 I have it on the default "ati" driver now since it works. >.>
[05:11] <BoukenPink> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[05:11] <BoukenPink> And that's the how-to
[05:12] <Madpilot> jessica_: my first day was about seven months ago now, you pick it up quickly ;)
[05:12] <BoukenPink> And I have an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 8500DV
[05:12] <beardousa> in the console, files with red text and black background are sym links, right?
[05:12] <nickrud> jessica_, then maybe Applications->Add Applications would be a better place to start, until you've climbed the curve a bit :)
[05:12] <mahangu> beardousa: depends on your theme
[05:12] <jessica_> awesome! just got tired of windows and cant afford a nice mac
[05:12] <mustard5> BoukenPink, thanks
[05:13] <mahangu> baghira installation?
[05:13] <mahangu> mustard5: sup :)
[05:13] <mustard5> hey mahangu
[05:13] <mustard5> hey doing some troubleshootin' as usual :)
[05:14] <grayman> hmmm
[05:16] <Wilf> Kernal panic - not syncing: atempted to kill init! - what's wrong. happens no matter which cd i try to boot off.
[05:17] <mustard5> BoukenPink, I don't see this in your xorg.conf as it says to do in the starters guide  ... Option  "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[05:17] <brownie17> does anyone know of a virus checker that works in ubuntu that will scan windows drives?
[05:17] <BlankFie> apt-get can't find mplayer for some reason.
[05:18] <beardousa> After unzipping some program source, should files such as INSTALL and COPYING be sym links?  I wonder what could have happened there?
[05:18] <nickrud> brownie17, I've heard that clamav is good for that
[05:18] <BlankFie> It's fuxing with my head. Everything I'm finding online says you can. I have universe and multiverse uncommented.
[05:18] <mustard5> BoukenPink, do you have a copy of the xorg.conf that isnt working?
[05:18] <mustard5> BoukenPink, I assume that part might be in there
[05:19] <BoukenPink> mustard5, that's pretty much it, with the exception of "ati" instead of "fglrx"
[05:19] <Madpilot> BlankFie: use Synaptic, search for mplayer - there are about a dozen packages, and I'm not sure any one of them is actually just called "mplayer" - they're all "mplayer-<something>"
[05:19] <brownie17> nickrud, good on you. i got sasser, cannot stay in long enough to remove it. it just shuts down.
[05:19] <BlankFie> Madpilot: I did
[05:19] <mustard5> BlankFie, have you done a sudo apt-get update yet?
[05:19] <BlankFie> I'm only getting one.
[05:19] <BlankFie> Yeah, I ran apt-get update twice
[05:19] <BlankFie> Let me refresh in synaptic.
[05:19] <nickrud> brownie17, I may be 100% mistaken, tho
[05:19] <mustard5> BoukenPink, you could try adding that line then? Option  "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" ?
[05:20] <lowman62> <computer attict prayer>here I lay me down to sleep. my laptop computer at my feet. if it should die before I wake. buy me a new one for goodness sake :P</computer attict prayer>
[05:20] <Kyral> lol
[05:20] <Madpilot> BlankFie: I'm showing 10 packages with "mplayer" in the name here... double-check your sources.list?
[05:20] <BlankFie> Yeah, I did
[05:20] <nickrud> brownie17, sorry, I am
[05:20] <BoukenPink> I'm pretty sure I did before and it didn't work, but I'll try again, just to make sure. :)
[05:20] <BlankFie> Made sure they were all uncommented.
[05:20] <BlankFie> Are yu on hedgehog badger?
[05:21] <mustard5> BlankFie, no breezy badger
[05:21] <BlankFie> hedgehog or badger*
[05:21] <BlankFie> sorry
[05:21] <BlankFie> Yeah, i'm gettin g mga-vid-source
[05:21] <BlankFie> :-/
[05:21] <mustard5> BlankFie, have you manually edited your sources.list before?
[05:21] <BlankFie> Yes, I just did.
[05:21] <mustard5> !sources
[05:21] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:21] <BlankFie> I know man.
[05:21] <BlankFie> /etc/apt/source.list
[05:22] <mustard5> BlankFie, try getting a new sources.list from the stuff that ubotu has up above
[05:22] <Hydroksyde> whenever I try to compile the 536EP driver, i get an error
[05:22] <Hydroksyde>    /lib/modules...   autoconf.h does not exist
[05:22] <Hydroksyde>    please install kernel source
[05:22] <mustard5> BlankFie, copy over your old sources.list with a new one
[05:22] <Hydroksyde> i've installed kernel-source
[05:22] <Hydroksyde> i mean
[05:22] <Hydroksyde> linux-source
[05:22] <BlankFie> This no mouse thing is killing me.
[05:23] <Hydroksyde> what kind of mouse?
[05:24] <lowman62> ctrl+alt+f1 <--fixes the mouse thing :D
[05:24] <beardousa> how do you see where a broken link is pointing?
[05:24] <Hydroksyde> lowman62, Human Beings (tm) don't use text consoles
[05:25] <lowman62> <--never accuse me of such things ...eww eww
[05:25] <Hydroksyde> and yet you're in a channel for "linux for human beings"?
[05:25] <nickrud> beardousa, ls -l <link>
[05:26] <lowman62> ya just seeing what the othersides doin *shrugs* :P
[05:26] <mahangu> Hydroksyde: be nice now
[05:26] <rahendrix> hello anyone now how to get the fglrx drivers to work with the X200m Chip
[05:26] <thunderbolt> We cybertronians have come here to take care of you, puny flesh-creature.
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> I'm trying to attempt some script editing, and would welcome some help.
[05:27] <lowman62> lol
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> I want to make an if statement in my suspend script that checks whether the linuxant HSF driver is running or not, and stop it if it is (I have the command for the second part).
[05:27] <beardousa> ahh, that gave me the info I needed to get this working.  thanks
[05:27] <BlankFie> Crap, need mouse so badly.
[05:28] <lowman62> BlankFie: I was sayin that the other day when I was trying to draw a circle with my etch-a-sketch :P
[05:30] <otep> errr pretty offtopic but has anyone here ever tried to d'load wikipedia.org for offline browsing?
[05:30] <BlankFie> LOL
[05:31] <ordinary> How many gigs is wikipedia?
[05:31] <thunderbolt> Its under a gig for only the latest, IIRC
[05:32] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Well... It still froze up >.>
[05:32] <grajul> hello im new to this can any one help me how do you install a .run document
[05:33] <fr33mind> I would like to convert AVI to somthing readable with my home dvd.  mpeg maybe?  what is the name of the tool to do that?
[05:33] <kaffeend> aloha
[05:33] <BlankFie> How do you paste in nano?
[05:34] <mustard5> BoukenPink, yeah..I realised as you left I might have sold you a red herring :)
[05:34] <Kyral> CTRL+SHIFT+V
[05:34] <intelikey> hello kaffeend
[05:34] <mustard5> BoukenPink, sorry :)
[05:34] <BlankFie> Nope :-/
[05:34] <mustard5> BoukenPink, I'm at a loss unfortunately
[05:34] <BlankFie> It was coppied from X
[05:34] <kaffeend> hi intelikey
[05:34] <BlankFie> So.. I need the mouse
[05:34] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Thanks for trying. :)
[05:34] <Kyral> BlankFie: thats it
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> Will modprobe -r blahblah get upset if blahblah isn't loaded?
[05:34] <mustard5> BoukenPink, I've tried googling up the error message with no luck...
[05:34] <intelikey> BlankFie dubble click
[05:35] <kaffeend> wow - been away for a long time, forgot how many p33ps were in here :o
[05:35] <BlankFie> Doubl click with my pen0r?
[05:35] <mustard5> BoukenPink, its really the only option I can think of..to google up your brand of card and see if there are others that have the same problem
[05:35] <intelikey> BlankFie that is to say both mouse buttons at one time
[05:35] <BlankFie> hmmm
[05:35] <BlankFie> Ok, I don't have mouse buttons to click
[05:35] <BoukenPink> mustard5, It's funny, because it worked on hoary~
[05:35] <hanasaki> can soemoen help em wwith chaining and squidGuard?
[05:36] <mustard5> BoukenPink, hmmmm
[05:36] <kaffeend> I was running Ubuntu64 months ago, and had numerous troubles... well, now I'm back with i386 :D
[05:36] <mustard5> BoukenPink, you could try reading the guides that ubotu has and see if they have anymore information
[05:36] <mustard5> !ati
[05:36] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> !info modprobe
[05:36] <mustard5> BoukenPink, check the two links above from ubotu
[05:36] <BlankFie> kaffeend: Was that hoary or no?
[05:36] <kaffeend> hi ubotu - did ya miss me?
[05:36] <hanasaki> squidguard keeps crashing
[05:37] <BoukenPink> mustard5, Thanks. :)
[05:37] <mustard5> BoukenPink, the forum link has some stuff on troubleshooting
[05:37] <kaffeend> BlankFie: Hoary - aye
[05:37] <fr33mind> What is the name of the app to convert AVI to MPEG ?
[05:38] <BlankFie> Hopefully Badger is better
[05:38] <kaffeend> !avi
[05:38] <ubotu> methinks avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:38] <BlankFie> AVI is for everything
[05:38] <BlankFie> WMV is for windows.
[05:38] <kaffeend> BlankFie: so do I :) I'm downloading the iso now
[05:38] <BlankFie> Heh
[05:39] <BlankFie> What's a text editor for X?
[05:39] <Madpilot> BlankFie: gEdit?
[05:39] <BlankFie> thanks!
[05:39] <silverton> nano, vim, gedit..um...kwrite
[05:39] <BlankFie> woot
[05:39] <Kyral> gedit, mousepad, XEmacs, XVim, krwite, kate...
[05:39] <BlankFie> Couldn't paste the sources config
[05:39] <nickrud> gvim is the one
[05:39] <BlankFie> The only x editor I could think of is kate
[05:39] <intelikey> i have a defered question about cups and hp pcs750 printer combo,  i set the thing up in and it worked then rebooted and no work no mo.   i tried to set it up again and all i get is "cups server unreachable"  it's on the same box how can it be un reachable ?
[05:39] <Madpilot> !start an editor war
[05:39] <ubotu> ed is better than emacs.
[05:40] <kaffeend> heya nickrud - remember moi?
[05:40] <nickrud> kaffeend, sure do :)
[05:40] <kaffeend> I'm having another crack at Ubuntu nickrud
[05:41] <nickrud> yes? you're having better success this time, I hope
[05:41] <intelikey> any sharp sysadmin have the key to this ?
[05:41] <BlankFie> WOOT!
[05:41] <kaffeend> hehe... d/loading the iso installer now ;)
[05:41] <Amaranth> intelikey: is cupsd running?
[05:42] <salut> rebonjour q tous1
[05:42] <salut> jai encore un leger probleme ^^
[05:42] <nickrud> kaffeend, when it's installed, I'd suggest starting at http://AddingRepositoriesHowto (if you hadn't already planned that)
[05:42] <intelikey> Amaranth no  and if i do a /etc/init.d/cupsys restart i get error cupsd exited with code 99
[05:42] <kaffeend> nickrud: cheers :)
[05:43] <nickrud> kaffeend, hope to see you around ;)
[05:43] <salut> ho::sorry zrong chqnnel MP
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> Can someone answer my question about modprobe above?
[05:43] <kaffeend> I'll be back in here using Xchat soon tho
[05:43] <kaffeend> no mIRC Krap
[05:43] <fr33mind> !start an op war
[05:43] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, fr33mind
[05:43] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i didn't see it ask again.
[05:44] <ArabianMystic> Greetings. I have just installed Ubuntu but X does not want to run...
[05:44] <kaffeend> anyone use the wiki here? lol
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Will modprobe -r blahblah get upset if blahblah isn't loaded?
[05:44] <intelikey> Amaranth why would i get error code 99 ?
[05:44] <BlankFie> !start stop
[05:44] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, BlankFie
[05:44] <niffe> well, that wlan just wont run
[05:45] <Amaranth> intelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=374918&postcount=5
[05:45] <pashaw> ArabianMystic, back to Ubuntu now  not debian right?
[05:45] <kaffeend> ubotu: are you on drugs?
[05:45] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kaffeend
[05:45] <intelikey> tonyyarusso modprobe loads modules that's what it's for.
[05:45] <Madpilot> kaffeend: :D
[05:45] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: You're back :)
[05:45] <intelikey> Amaranth looking
[05:45] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: That is correct.
[05:45] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   just got home
[05:45] <athauglas> hey all.
[05:45] <fr33mind> !start cashflow
[05:45] <ubotu> fr33mind: Are you smoking crack?
[05:45] <kaffeend> MadPilot: has ubotu been nerfed?
[05:45] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: me too. I just logged in.
[05:45] <fr33mind> !start smoking crack
[05:45] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, fr33mind
[05:46] <Madpilot> kaffeend: not that I know of - what's not working?
[05:46] <kaffeend> ubotu: what is crack?
[05:46] <ubotu> kaffeend: I think you lost me on that one
[05:46] <kaffeend> nerfed
[05:46] <nickrud> !me
[05:46] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   pastebin your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:46] <ubotu> nickrud: What?
[05:46] <kaffeend> he used to say "that's what a lot of people in here smoke"
[05:46] <athauglas> anyone able to help out with wireless issues?
[05:46] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Okay. I did in fact do a number of things. Not only did I reinstall but I re-downloded the image and re-burned it onto an entirely new disc.
[05:46] <Madpilot> kaffeend: if you mean, "Has someone cleared some of the sillier tells out", then yeah, I think cafuego did
[05:47] <kaffeend> MadPilot: okies
[05:47] <pashaw> ArabianMystic, not a bad idea
[05:47] <Madpilot> kaffeend: you're welcome to add them back in until the next cleanout! :P
[05:47] <Amaranth> kaffeend: Please don't make the bot say things like that.
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, My issue is that the linuxant HSF modem driver upsets suspend, so I'm trying to add a line stopping it to the suspend script, per the ThinkWiki suggestion, but I need to know if the script needs to check whether it's loaded or not and only run that command if it is, or if it can just be run regardless.
[05:47] <kaffeend> w00t! 91%
[05:47] <andrew> Anyone know a good chan on IRC for hardware questions?
[05:47] <Amaranth> Madpilot: No he isn't. :)
[05:47] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Erm... I'm on the command-line... I wouldn't know how to copy and paste stuff to a website...
[05:47] <riskk> hi
[05:47] <kaffeend> andrew: what's your hardware problem?
[05:48] <riskk> im trying to install ubuntu on my computer and i keep getting this error" there was a problem reading data from the cd-rom please make sure it is in the drive. if retrying does not work, you should check the integrity of the cdrom"
[05:48] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  ok   1 sec
[05:48] <riskk> i know the cd is okay though..i have many copies of the distro and they all do that
[05:48] <Madpilot> kaffeend: !run still works - try that one :P
[05:48] <intelikey> tonyyarusso no it shouldn't cry too much if it is not loaded.
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Now that's good.
[05:48] <kaffeend> MadPilot: wtf??
[05:48] <andrew> kaffeend, its a hot summer and Im getting overheat problems. I checked AMDs site and my CPU can run at higher temps, but it seems my mobo auto-shuts down at around 65. Need to find a way to change the threshold
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Okay.
[05:49] <riskk> anyone?
[05:49] <Madpilot> andrew: that sounds like a BIOS setting
[05:49] <Amaranth> riskk: try burning another CD, but at a slower speed
[05:49] <fr33mind> The wiki doesn't answer me... I'm looking to convert AVI to mpeg..
[05:49] <kaffeend> andrew: I'm having similar issues - cpu fan is way too slow
[05:49] <Amaranth> intelikey: did that help?
[05:49] <kaffeend> andrew: what's your mobo?
[05:50] <andrew> Madpilot, yeah, couldnt find anything in the bios though. There might be a bios upgrade somewhere, but I thought Id ask around
[05:50] <skon> Anyone knoe, if I have a CDRW in my drive and I run cdrecord, do I need any special options to make it rewriteable, or is it rewriteable by default?
[05:50] <Amaranth> fr33mind: You'll want mencode then, google should come up with examples.
[05:50] <andrew> kaffeend, gigabyte k7 triton
[05:50] <riskk> amaranth
[05:50] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   find section "Device"  youll see identifier   and driver   lets start with driver   whats that read
[05:50] <riskk> i didnt burn the cd, these are direct cds from ubuntu
[05:50] <andrew> My CPU fan is around 5000 RPM, which is nrmal
[05:50] <intelikey> tonyyarusso programmers like to use ' >/dev/null 2>&1 '  on the end of things to hide messages and error/warnings  you might consider that.
[05:50] <Amaranth> riskk: That's a problem. :/
[05:50] <andrew> normal*
[05:50] <riskk> why?
[05:50] <riskk> shouldnt they work?
[05:51] <Amaranth> riskk: Because you can't burn another one.
[05:51] <kaffeend> andrew: get the gigabyte app called EasyTune 5
[05:51] <Amaranth> riskk: But I've never had one from canonical fail.
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> How can I specify whether or not a driver should load at boot?  (And if it doesn't, do so later.)
[05:51] <riskk> but if its from ubuntu
[05:51] <riskk> why would it be wrong
[05:51] <Amaranth> riskk: When was the last time you cleaned your cdrom drive?
[05:51] <andrew> kaffeend, As long as I can get my box to stay up long enough, will do :P
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Will write that down.
[05:51] <kaffeend> andrew: :o
[05:51] <riskk> amaranth: its brand new
[05:51] <riskk> its a dvdrw sony
[05:51] <riskk> i tried other stuff
[05:51] <riskk> and it works
[05:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Radeon xpress 200mx (rs480)
[05:51] <riskk> so its not the cd rom per se
[05:52] <ArabianMystic> *200m
[05:52] <Amaranth> riskk: I just ran out of ideas then. You must just have a bad CD.
[05:52] <riskk> no
[05:52] <riskk> cause i went and go tmore
[05:52] <kaffeend> andrew: last night I compltely rebuilt my box - including reseating the h/s and fan
[05:52] <riskk> after it gave this error, and they do the same thing
[05:52] <pashaw> ArabianMystic, if you want to get into X quick we could just use vesa  like your debian X did
[05:53] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   comment out the driver and add your own driver line  with "vesa"
[05:53] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: let me try that...
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> I want to set it up so the Linuxant HSF modem driver does load on boot when I'm at home where there's dialup so I need it, but turn it off when I'm at school with DSL.
[05:53] <borisattva> i created a bunch of directories in /dev/ when figuring out the mounting process. i unmounted them and now trying to delete them, but denied due to permissions. i tried chown and chmod but against denied as they are owned by root, logging into which doenst seem to be an option. what do i need to do?
[05:53] <andrew> I just found a jumper setting had been screwing with my CPU - forcing it to a lower FSB speed. So I fixed that, my CPU is running at the correct speed - cept the correct speeds faster and its getting hot :?
[05:54] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: that's a tricky one
[05:54] <kaffeend> reboot time - cya'll soonish
[05:54] <pashaw> andrew,    troubleshooting-101:  do you smell smoke?
[05:54] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: why can't you load it when you're at school? it shouldn't break anything
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, I don't mind doing a manual edit when I go between locations if that helps.
[05:54] <Xenguy> Hi - does anyone know if there is a *definitive* nVidia driver HOWTO -- I'm looking at 2 documents + 1 forum, and getting quickly confused beyond all recognition
[05:54] <andrew> pashaw, no, theres too much dust in the air from when I opened the case :P
[05:54] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: in that case just modprobe it when you're at home and don't when you're at school
[05:55] <pashaw> andrew,   curious  what FSB did you set?
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, No, it shouldn't, but it slows down boot (a minor inconvenience) and confuses suspend (which I may or may not succeed at fixing, so I'm investigating options).
[05:56] <intelikey> Amaranth tonyyarusso simple setup two boot options in grub that boot to different runlevels in the rc#.d for the one set up the modem in the rc#.d for the other dont
[05:56] <andrew> I just set it to autodetect
[05:56] <riskk> amaranth
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, meaning never have it load on boot, and use modprobe to bring it up as necessary.
[05:56] <riskk> you there?
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> ?
[05:56] <andrew> Previously there was a jumper forcing it to 100
[05:56] <Amaranth> riskk: yeah
[05:56] <riskk> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81600.html - this site addresses the problem im having exactly
[05:56] <andrew> With auto, it now picks it up at 133, which is right
[05:56] <riskk> but im not sure exactly what this means since im a newb, do i need to get an old version or what? read the last post
[05:56] <riskk> i have amd 64
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, How's that?
[05:57] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: okay, done.
[05:57] <intelikey> like let the defaule stay the same and remove the setup script from the /etc/rc3.d/   and setup grub by adding an idintical entry with different title and '3'  on the end of the append line.
[05:58] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   try the start X
[05:58] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: I have. Fatal IO error.
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, What's the append line?
[05:58] <intelikey> man thats what runlevels are for
[05:58] <AdmiralCrunch> hello,  I just need a bit of help here. I just got 2x 250GB drives for Christmas, and I am running off a live CD. I have my Ubuntu and Windows partition on the same disk. Ever since I tacked the 2 drives on, I can't get into my Ubuntu or Windows partitions
[05:58] <sahooe> hi people! I'm having a problem with extra-large .xsession-error file
[05:58] <sahooe> there are mainly three errors repeated thousands of times
[05:59] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: ATA or SATA drives?
[05:59] <AdmiralCrunch> SATA
[05:59] <Amaranth> riskk: That says you need the x86 installer.
[05:59] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   any other errors?
[05:59] <riskk> how do i get that
[05:59] <intelikey> boot vmlinuz append root=blah  vga=799  3
[05:59] <Amaranth> riskk: You'd have to download it, it's a different CD.
[05:59] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: hmm, I was going to tell you to check your ATA drive's jumper settings! :P
[05:59] <AdmiralCrunch> The new drives are SATA and the drive with the Ubuntu/Windows is SATA
[05:59] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: EE reads "no matching modes" and "screen found but none have a usable configuration"
[05:59] <intelikey> oh and don't forget the initrd.img  hehhe
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Ah.  Added something to that once before.
[05:59] <AdmiralCrunch> So I tried to reinstall GRUB
[06:00] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ok better
[06:00] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: not sure what to suggest, then, if the first SATA drive works fine...
[06:00] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Ahh and "No symbols found"
[06:00] <DewDude> question: if i install XP and it overwrites my MBR...how can get GRUB back?
[06:00] <DewDude> is it even possible?
[06:00] <AdmiralCrunch> yes
[06:00] <sahooe> the first error in my xsessions-error is this: kbluetoothd: HciSocket::open()
[06:00] <intelikey> tonyyarusso it's in /boot/grub/menu.list
[06:00] <sahooe> and this: kbluetoothd: Bind failed: No existe tal dispositivo
[06:00] <AdmiralCrunch> even though I will get shit for suggesting ubuntuguide.org they have a thing how to get grub back DewDude
[06:00] <Amaranth> !grub
[06:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:01] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   your using a CRT  or LCD?
[06:01] <Amaranth> DewDude: there you go
[06:01] <DewDude> bam
[06:01] <DewDude> i need number two
[06:01] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: LCD
[06:01] <DewDude> because that's exactly what's going to happen
[06:01] <sahooe> any help? I have had .xsessions-error file of 13GB!!!
[06:01] <DewDude> although, i have a crazy plan
[06:01] <Amaranth> DewDude: Yeah. You'd need the live cd to fix it.
[06:01] <Amaranth> DewDude: Please don't mention vmware. :)
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Thanks for the suggestion.
[06:01] <AdmiralCrunch> Madpilot: so I removed the power from both of the new drives, still no go
[06:01] <DewDude> no no no
[06:01] <AdmiralCrunch> I think I screwed up the MBR
[06:01] <kaffeend> um, can someone help me thru the Nero burning process plz? :/
[06:02] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   scroll down to the monitor  and screen  sections    do you see a freshrate #   like 59-120 or something
[06:02] <DewDude> for the reason i need XP, i need to actually boot the OS on the hardware
[06:02] <Amaranth> kaffeend: I believe you tell nero you want to copy a CD, then choose the iso as the source
[06:02] <DewDude> but..i have a lot of dos games i found
[06:02] <kaffeend> Amaranth: thanks
[06:02] <DewDude> like....redneck rampage
[06:02] <sahooe> the second error is: Qt: Locales not supported on X server
[06:02] <Amaranth> DewDude: I meant use vmware to install to the HD. :P
[06:02] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: depth and modes but no refresh rates.
[06:02] <intelikey> Amaranth actually no tht page is no help. it's a default ubuntu 5.4
[06:03] <sahooe> plz help! I'm sick of 13GB error files
[06:03] <DewDude> .....that wouldn't work
[06:03] <Amaranth> intelikey: About all I can say is google for "cupsd error 99" then, sorry.
[06:03] <kaffeend> Amaranth: So I choose "Disk Image or Saved Project" in the Nero Wizard?
[06:03] <Amaranth> kaffeend: yeah
[06:03] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: That's for screen, mind. Section: Monitor is only two lines long.
[06:03] <eric_> I just installed clamav but it doesn't show any sign of being active is there something I'm not doing
[06:03] <kaffeend> Amaranth: okay - thankyou
[06:03] <intelikey> Amaranth yes thank you for trying.
[06:03] <Amaranth> kaffeend: It'll default to only showing *.nrg files
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> Do linux disks need to be defragmented like Windows ones do?
[06:04] <DewDude> because doesn't vm report a totally different set of hardware
[06:04] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: no
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, How come?
[06:04] <kaffeend> Amaranth: hmmm
[06:04] <DewDude> i've not used it, i don't know what it does
[06:04] <Amaranth> DewDude: Yeah, it'd probably bluescreen when you booted it on real hardware.
[06:04] <DewDude> but i'm thinking of putting Win98 on the existing FAT32
[06:04] <DewDude> just for the DOX
[06:04] <DewDude> DOS
[06:04] <sahooe> how can I disable kbluethooth for good?
[06:04] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: They de-fragment on-the-fly.
[06:04] <Amaranth> DewDude: dosbox
[06:04] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   for monitor  what does option read
[06:04] <DewDude> and having 3 OS's
[06:04] <Amaranth> !info dosbox
[06:04] <DewDude> man
[06:04] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[06:05] <DewDude> nah
[06:05] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: DPMS
[06:05] <DewDude> i never really got it to run that well
[06:05] <intelikey> !info dosemu
[06:05] <ubotu> dosemu: (The Linux DOS Emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 904 kB, Installed size: 2128 kB
[06:05] <DewDude> redneck rampage doesn't run good emulated
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, Slick.
[06:05] <kaffeend> Amaranth: Nero won't let me save it as an .iso
[06:05] <Amaranth> kaffeend: You mean it won't let you open an iso?
[06:06] <eric_> Do I need to have ClamAv installed for virus protection?
[06:06] <Amaranth> kaffeend: in the file chooser there should be a drop-down list on the bottom for choosing what type of files to show.
[06:06] <kaffeend> Amaranth: I can open it, but it wants to mount it as an .nrg
[06:06] <Amaranth> eric_: No, linux doesn't really have viruses.
[06:06] <intelikey> eric_ are you running a mail server ?
[06:06] <ElitePete> Amaranth, it does, they just suck ;-P
[06:06] <Knowerrors> Any people that know midi setup around?
[06:06] <Amaranth> eric_: Or spyware. And ubuntu doesn't open any ports so you don't need a firewall either. Isn't it great? :)
[06:07] <eric_> that's cool but I did activate firestarter already
[06:07] <lowman62> eric_: not viruses perse but there are other things linux can get...trojans..I have found a couple on my system using clamav
[06:07] <ElitePete> eric_, firestarter isnt' really a firewall, it's a gui for built-in Ip Tables
[06:07] <ball> Will ubuntu work on an early iBook?
[06:07] <ElitePete> lowman62, do you think it's necessary to install clam-av ?
[06:08] <lowman62> mine came installed already...but i guess it is a personal choice thing
[06:08] <Lukian>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[06:08] <Lukian> 11188 root      16   0  105m  23m 4884 S 81.8  5.2   6:05.99 Xorg
[06:08] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: did you get that?
[06:08] <eric_> I hate trojans, when I first was using windows and getting used to the internet I had a bunch of those
[06:08] <Lukian> Xorg shouldn't be using 80% cpu constantly? :p
[06:08] <Xenguy> Has anyone had recent experience configuring nVidia drivers?  Was it difficult?
[06:08] <Ralken> can some one help me get ipod working
[06:08] <Amaranth> !oldworldmac
[06:08] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Amaranth
[06:08] <lowman62> eric_: they can be a pain in the (_!_)
[06:08] <Amaranth> ball: Can it run OS X?
[06:09] <ball> Amaranth: Perhaps
[06:09] <ElitePete> any real need to install Clam-AV ?
[06:09] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  yep  finding the best next step since i cant see your config directly
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> lowman62, Does it take forever for you to run system scans?  I did that once and never got to the end of it after many hours.
[06:09] <Amaranth> !find nvidia
[06:09] <cafuego> ElitePete: If you distribute files for windows, maybe.
[06:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: I could dcc you the log?
[06:10] <ElitePete> cafuego, explain ?
[06:10] <cafuego> ball: Ubuntu will work on any iBook. Just not the older G3 PowerMacs.
[06:10] <intelikey> ElitePete sure you need to install it cause if you don't you wont sleep at night just wondering if your box has a bug    :)
[06:10] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   how about the config
[06:10] <lowman62> ElitePete: Like I said I have found trojans on my system using it...I also recieve 1000's of emails per day...most of it SPAM...it is a personal choice
[06:10] <eric_> I installed clamav but it I don't see any signs that it is running
[06:10] <cafuego> ElitePete: Linux doesn't get viruses.
[06:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: erk, that's what I mean't. Okay, let me try it.
[06:10] <Xenguy> Amaranth: didn't get that factoid
[06:10] <Hydroksyde> who here understands why there are to kinds of people in the word?
[06:10] <ball> cafuego: thanks
[06:10] <cafuego> ElitePete: clcmav is mainly useful for mail servers that distribute mail to windows clients.
[06:10] <Madpilot> lowman62: but were the trojans actually installed, or just attached to emails?
[06:10] <riskk> hey
[06:11] <Hydroksyde> who here understands why there are 10 kinds of people in the word?
[06:11] <sahooe> any help disabling bluetooth please!
[06:11] <navarone> only 10?
[06:11] <lowman62> eric_: you can do a scan manually like this: sudo clamscan /
[06:11] <Amaranth> !nvidia
[06:11] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:11] <Madpilot> Hydroksyde: the binary joke? :P
[06:11] <Ralken> Im trying to get my ipod to work under linux and I am using gtkpod but it isnt mounting the pod can anyone help
[06:11] <Hydroksyde> navarone, those who can count in binary and those who can't
[06:11] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: bleh, it says I'm an unregistered user so I can't send anything.
[06:11] <eric_> thanks lowman, I'll try that
[06:11] <intelikey> there are what 4 or 5 known virii that can affect the normal linux system....  hehhe and how many for windows ???????????????????????
[06:12] <Xenguy> Amaranth: yeah, saw those -- if that's the clearest HOWTO there is, then I guess it is time for me to dig in deeper :-)
[06:12] <Xenguy> Amaranth: tx
[06:12] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   type  /msg nickserv register <password>
[06:12] <kaffeend> Amaranth: I completed the Nero Burning ROM wiz, and it just made a copy of the image on my HDD :s Anyway, I'm mounting the image now using *cough* winblows *cough*
[06:12] <lowman62> eric_: there are other switch options for it as well and I believe it comes with a man page so man clamscan i think it is
[06:12] <Amaranth> Xenguy: You don't have to compile anything, just install a package.
[06:12] <cafuego> intelikey: a system running bind8 or wu-ftp isn't a "normal" linux system ;-)
[06:12] <durt> xenguy: the forums at nvnews.net are useful
[06:12] <navarone> intelikey> that's why i get my mail and do most stuff online in ubuntu now
[06:12] <Xenguy> Amaranth: OK, I'll give it another look - I found it confusing when I first looked
[06:12] <Hydroksyde> kaffeend, there is a nero burning rom for linux
[06:12] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: bleh, it says I'm an unregistered user so I can't send anything.
[06:12] <Xenguy> durt: OK, tx
[06:12] <intelikey> normal is reletive
[06:13] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: oops. didn't mean to repeat it. issue resolved.
[06:13] <BoukenPink> Awwr... I was all about to come in and be like "It's fixed!" and then I tried to open xchat and it froze...
[06:13] <Ralken> anyone?
[06:13] <kaffeend> Hydroksyde: I haven't got Linux yet :)
[06:13] <sahooe> anyone? how to disable bluetooth services??
[06:13] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: get it okay?
[06:13] <DuXia> hi. my dns entries keep resetting whenever i reboot.. any idea why?
[06:13] <navarone> sry Ralken have not used any usb devices yet
[06:13] <Hydroksyde> sahooe, rip out the bt adaptor
[06:13] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   checking
[06:14] <Xenguy> Amaranth durt I have no X at the moment BTW (but I guess you inferred that :-)
[06:14] <cafuego> sahooe: 'rcconf' or System -> Admin -> Services
[06:14] <intelikey> Ralken i'm not ignoring you, just don't know anything about ipod.
[06:14] <Amaranth> Xenguy: what errors are you getting?
[06:14] <navarone> sahooe> the bluetooth services may be "bluetooth" in how ubuntu uses serials devices...not neccessarialy wireless
[06:15] <DuXia> hi. my dns entries keep resetting back to none whenever i reboot.. any idea why?
[06:15] <cafuego> Ralken: run gtkpod from a terminal and check for any debug output
[06:15] <Xenguy> Amaranth: basically "nVidia Corp. unknown chipset" and (EE) No devices detected; fatal server error: no screens found"
[06:15] <Hydroksyde> DuXia, DHCP client enabled, maybe?
[06:15] <navarone> sahooe? at least that was the impression I got when reading up opn it
[06:15] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   yep got it  let me browse it a sec
[06:15] <DuXia> how do i disable it?
[06:16] <eric_> I just did a scan and I'm clean, thanks for the help
[06:16] <intelikey> Xenguy trying to setup nv drivers ?
[06:16] <lowman62> eric_: your welcome :)
[06:16] <grajul> can any one tell me how to install a .run i am brand new to linux and iam not sure how to do this
[06:16] <Xenguy> intelikey: yes
[06:17] <grajul> please help me
[06:17] <Hydroksyde> grajul, open it with /bin/sh
[06:17] <sahooe> navarone: sorry, i had to go downstairs
[06:17] <intelikey> ./file.run   maybe grajul
[06:17] <ball> I can't keep up with the traffic in here.  Bye all.
[06:17] <sahooe> I have not bluetooth card installed or anything, so the PC is looking for it
[06:18] <lowman62> ball should move to the right...the slow lane :P```
[06:18] <Hydroksyde> grajul, open up a console, change to the directory, and type "sh foobar.run"
[06:18] <grajul> after /bin/sh should i type in the root to my doc or just is name
[06:18] <sahooe> I use Kubuntu. So I should only remove kbluetooth?
[06:18] <intelikey> someone talk me out of buying the sarge cd's
[06:18] <Amaranth> intelikey: Why would you do that?
[06:18] <DuXia> hydroksyde, how do i disable my dhcp client?
[06:18] <rob1> intelikey, yes: ubuntu cds are free
[06:18] <intelikey> dialup
[06:18] <Hydroksyde> DuXia, i gave no idea
[06:18] <grajul> okay how do you change to a directory
[06:19] <Hydroksyde> cd /foo/bar
[06:19] <grajul>  i am very new i just came from using windows
[06:19] <Hydroksyde> or cd foo
[06:19] <grajul> nevery really used a terminal
[06:19] <Hydroksyde> ok
[06:19] <Ralken> cafuego,  will do
[06:19] <Madpilot> grajul: see Hydroksyde's lines
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> grajul, I'm four months in myself.
[06:19] <Hydroksyde> is there an "open terminal here" option in the file manager?
[06:19] <rob1> intelikey, http://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[06:19] <Madpilot> Hydroksyde: starting a post w/ someone's nick makes it easier for all :P
[06:19] <fr33mind> Last try..... I need to convert AVI to MPEG.  Somebody knows how to do it?  I'm just tired to google etc...
[06:19] <grajul> okay
[06:19] <intelikey> rob1 but ubuntu does not ship cd's per se  but an install cd and then require net repos..... that's a real problem with a dialup connection over a slowdem
[06:20] <grajul> im in
[06:20] <beardousa> If I want to add a directory to /etc/ld.so.conf, is it best to do it by hand or is there some program I should use?  Also, what is the format?  The man page says dirname=TYPE, but what is TYPE?
[06:20] <Madpilot> Hydroksyde: install nautilus-open-terminal
[06:20] <Kyynara> grajul, a really good terminal "tutorial" http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[06:20] <Ralken> cafuego, it says the ipod isnt mounted but im not sure how to accomplish this because its usb
[06:20] <grajul> okay
[06:20] <lowman62> friends don't let friends use dialup :P```
[06:20] <rob1> intelikey, no, the cd has a complete desktop environment on it
[06:20] <intelikey> rob1 secondly by the time i get a ub system installed it's out of date and no longer supported.... hehh
[06:20] <ElitePete> how do i add execute permission to a file in terminal?
[06:21] <rob1> intelikey, you only need to download extras
[06:21] <rob1> if you want them that is
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> lowman62, No, but when that's what their family has at home they don't have much choice.
[06:21] <intelikey> that's what i said.
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> ElitePete, chmod +x file
[06:21] <Hydroksyde> grajul, to put it simply, "cd foobar" will change to the directory foobar, and "ls" will show you a list of files in the current directory
[06:21] <intelikey> then requires inet repos.
[06:21] <lowman62> ElitePete: sudo chmod <whateverpermissions> yourfile
[06:21] <Ralken> cafuego, I tryed this command but didnt get any results "cat: /proc/scsi/scsi"
[06:22] <rob1> intelikey, try asking your local lug for a copy of some of the extra stuff on cd that you want
[06:22] <lowman62> or just chmod if it is in your dir
[06:22] <Ralken> cafuego, tryed it as sudo too
[06:22] <Hydroksyde> grajul, and "cd .." to get to the parent directory
[06:22] <ElitePete> tonyyarusso, thanks
[06:22] <ElitePete> lowman62, thanks
[06:22] <intelikey> local lug would be me and the guy that i put linux on his box for him rob1
[06:22] <Ralken> anyone esle familiar with mounting something conected to a usb port
[06:22] <lowman62> ElitePete: yw :)
[06:22] <rob1> intelikey, thats no good :)
[06:22] <ElitePete> lowman62, this is on FreeBSD shell though so i don't think i can do sudo but the +x worked
[06:23] <lowman62> ya sudo don't work on freeBSD
[06:23] <grajul> okay i ll try that
[06:23] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: any luck mate?
[06:23] <intelikey> rob1 arkansas ozarks hill billy
[06:24] <lowman62> intelikey: i bet your wrong...unless you live like in the boonies :P
[06:24] <lowman62> lol
[06:24] <grajul> when i type iun cd foobar it says no such file or directory
[06:24] <intelikey> do you pay when you bet lowman62 ?
[06:24] <Hydroksyde> I keep getting a "/lib/modules...   autoconf.h does not exist" error when trying to compile a modem driver
[06:24] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   think so just trying to piece it together
[06:24] <Hydroksyde> what package must I install?
[06:24] <Madpilot> grajul: "foobar" is just a placeholder, it doesn't exist...
[06:24] <rob1> intelikey, how far is little rock from you?
[06:24] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ok look at this post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6085
[06:25] <grajul> o stupid me
[06:25] <intelikey> hour and an half
[06:25] <Hydroksyde> grajul, the words foo and bar are often used that way
[06:25] <rob1> intelikey, there is a lug there
[06:25] <lowman62> i like fubar myself...e.g. my jumpdrive is fubar..and it is :)
[06:26] <grajul> i got it to show names of files after i typed in ls then what do i do to install them
[06:26] <Hydroksyde> fubar is different to foobar
[06:26] <lowman62> *fling*
[06:26] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   under section "screen"  change 24 to 16   i always use lower settings when trouble shooting
[06:26] <lowman62> ya i know that...I have a million manuals that make reference to foobar...foo and bar
[06:26] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: going to take a sec - need to apt-get links
[06:26] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   then add  the exact subsection "display"  you see in that post
[06:27] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    wait   i can send  you the text
[06:27] <grajul> it says my files but how do i tell them install
[06:27] <intelikey> one of them is a real prick too rob1,  keeps me baned from several networks just cause he is from same state and uses same network to connect    spammer/hacker   so his ip gets banned and that shuts me out also.
[06:27] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: don't worry, i'm there.
[06:27] <rob1> intelikey, heh
[06:28] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: what should i do with this?
[06:28] <grajul> i got the terminal to say my files in ls but how do i install them now
[06:28] <rob1> intelikey, thats pretty bad for a lug
[06:28] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ill edit your old conf and send it back   ill mark my line changes  with >>>>   then you add them
[06:28] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   its only like 5 lines
[06:28] <lowman62> intelikey: i callem scriptkiddies...hacker is another breed
[06:28] <kaffeend> Ah, having some trouble here with mounting the Ubuntu image to cd... Nero wants to rename it, I let it, and then it hands it over to Windows to do the actual burning.
[06:29] <grajul> hydroksyde you still there
[06:29] <intelikey> lowman62 he's not just a scriptkiddy   but yeah
[06:29] <lowman62> kaffeend: you are burning it as an image correct?
[06:29] <Amaranth> !nero
[06:29] <ubotu> Amaranth: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:29] <kaffeend> this link says to make the image as a Data CD: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[06:29] <Amaranth> hrm
[06:30] <kaffeend> lowman62: obviously not :)
[06:30] <rob1> intelikey, a set of debian cds might be more useful for you
[06:30] <grajul> can any one help me install a .run
[06:30] <Amaranth> kaffeend: follow it, i haven't used nero in about a year
[06:30] <grajul> im very new
[06:30] <rob1> intelikey, be aware that most of debain becomes dated and needs updates frequently
[06:31] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a script (on freebsd) would look like to load multiple programs in folder say /home/folder1/app /home/folder2/app etc?
[06:31] <lowman62> intelikey: a 13 year old punk messed up my network once..although he called himself a hacker...hackers don't damage things...nor do they want on your personal computer
[06:31] <grajul> hello
[06:31] <kaffeend> Amaranth: I did follow it - and was followed by windows telling me I have files waiting to be written to CD
[06:31] <Lukian> I have no sound from flash movies/
[06:31] <Lukian> any ideas?
[06:31] <grajul> can any one help me
[06:31] <Amaranth> kaffeend: err, nero shouldn't "hand off" anything to windows
[06:31] <Amaranth> !ask
[06:31] <kaffeend> so I click ok and it says to insert a disk
[06:31] <intelikey> that was the conclusion i came to rob1.   and i'm one of the type that says 'if it aint broke don't upgrade it.'
[06:32] <Polygon> hello, could someone assist me with a ubuntu installation?
[06:32] <intelikey> lowman62 yes i know.
[06:32] <Amaranth> Ok, who the hell made !ask too long to go in channel?
[06:32] <rob1> intelikey, I used to be on dialup myself, a set of debian cds kept me sane
[06:32] <lowman62> i'm with intelikey on that one...why fix that which is not broken
[06:32] <kaffeend> Amaranth: I realise that Nero should be doing the burning - that's why I'm so confuzzled
[06:32] <Hydroksyde> grajul
[06:32] <rob1> intelikey, although I could take my box into my local lug and update it via a local networked mirror
[06:33] <Hydroksyde> find it in the console
[06:33] <Polygon> anyone?
[06:33] <Hydroksyde> then type "sudo sh foobar.run"
[06:33] <Amaranth> Polygon: What do you need help with?
[06:33] <Devist8> does anyone have any experience with upgrading to ubuntu in colinux
[06:33] <rob1> intelikey, there is a ubuntu dvd
[06:33] <intelikey> rob1 it seems that rather than talking me out of it, you are kinda with me on it....  ;/
[06:33] <rob1> heh yeah
[06:33] <Amaranth> Devist8: I bet only about 10 people in the world have done that.
[06:33] <Polygon> im at the step where i need to format my hard drive
[06:33] <Amaranth> Devist8: Or less. :)
[06:33] <Devist8> im getting apt-get errors
[06:33] <Devist8> lots of em
[06:34] <Polygon> and i cant figure out how to change the partitons to what i want
[06:34] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a script (on freebsd) would look like to load multiple programs in folder say /home/folder1/app /home/folder2/app etc?
[06:34] <grajul> can any walk me through installing a .run document i am very new and dont know what to do
[06:34] <mahangu> grajul, double click it
[06:34] <Devist8> so basicly i should give up on it?
[06:35] <lowman62> ElitePete: the folder that contains the files you want to move ..is there anything in there you do not want to moved or copied?
[06:35] <eek-0> Who's on Ubuntu baby!! YEA!!
[06:35] <grajul> okay it comes up with all this script
[06:35] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    you there?
[06:35] <grajul> mahangu, it looks like all this script
[06:35] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: okay, I've done that.
[06:35] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: yep.
[06:36] <Knowerrors> Any midi users on here, Im using timidity with the freepats, and most plays fine, but some instruments are missing, anybody can help?
[06:36] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   done what?
[06:36] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: I added the lines, as requested.
[06:36] <ElitePete> lowman62, i just want to run the programs
[06:36] <intelikey> ElitePete    LIST='/home/folder1/app /home/folder2/app etc' ;for this in $LIST ;do if $THIS ;then echo '[ok] ' ;else echo "$this [error] " ;exit 1 ;fi ;done
[06:36] <lowman62> oh okay i misunderstood you sorry about that ElitePete :P``
[06:36] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: the lines that you pastebin'd onto my xorg.conf...
[06:37] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ok  comment out the original  24 and 16  section you added
[06:37] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: ... comment out what I just added?
[06:37] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    ohhh   it said it timed out
[06:37] <ElitePete> lowman62, no problem
[06:38] <Polygon> amaranth: so can you help me?
[06:38] <intelikey> ElitePete you can modify that and use it ^
[06:38] <kaffeend> okay - windows is adding the data to the CD image
[06:38] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  lol     no  you added a new 16 section   comment the old one  farther down out  so they dont get mixedup
[06:38] <ElitePete> intelikey, what do i save that as
[06:38] <intelikey> a file ?
[06:38] <ElitePete> or just paste that?
[06:38] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: you've lost me.
[06:38] <Amaranth> Polygon: What do you want to do?
[06:38] <Amaranth> Polygon: The guided partitioner should have a choice to resize the windows partition and make an ubuntu one
[06:39] <Amaranth> Polygon: or wipe the HD and install just ubuntu
[06:39] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    accept this file and look at what i commented out
[06:39] <Amaranth> Polygon: generally if you need something beyond that you know how to do it :)
[06:39] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: How do I accept it?
[06:39] <rob1> intelikey, you could get someone to dl one of the ubuntu dvd images via bittorrent from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/dvd/ and mail it to you
[06:39] <Polygon> im at the section where its going to wipe the drive, and create the partitions
[06:39] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ill pastebin it
[06:39] <rob1> intelikey, I'm not sure if a linux shop sells them
[06:39] <lowman62> ElitePete you can save it as a .sh but make sure you put the path to sh at the top of it like !#/bin/sh <--if that is where it exists
[06:40] <Polygon> i want to make it so root as 10 gigs, swap has 1 gig and /home everything else
[06:40] <Amaranth> intelikey: Yeah, I'm sure you can find someone. Are you in the US?
[06:40] <intelikey> yes ElitePete you could start with a id line    #!/bin/bash            and put that below it.  only modify the LIST veriables   and  chmod 750 <filename>
[06:40] <ElitePete> intelikey, i don't have admin access this is a shell
[06:40] <Amaranth> Polygon: ok, so delete whatever partitions are they, tell it to make a new one, and it'll ask for the size
[06:40] <kaffeend> sudo it pete
[06:40] <Polygon> but when i delete the partions already there  and i edit lets say the root one
[06:40] <Amaranth> err, are there
[06:40] <Polygon> and i say 10 gigs
[06:40] <lowman62> ElitePete you should be able to su to root access
[06:40] <Polygon> then it creates it
[06:40] <intelikey> ElitePete and ?
[06:41] <Polygon> but then it says it has like 28.8 unusable
[06:41] <Amaranth> Polygon: odd
[06:41] <Amaranth> any reason you need /home on a seperate partition?
[06:41] <ElitePete> intelikey, i have the files in /home/Hammer/omen/1 - 8
[06:41] <ElitePete> and all the files are called fastbot
[06:41] <ElitePete> i just need a script to run them all.
[06:41] <Polygon> i dunno thats what my friend who has linux suggested
[06:42] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6105   my changed/added lines are >>>>    commented out #
[06:42] <Polygon> here is what it says: LVM VG Ubuntu, LV Root - 38.2 GB unknown
[06:42] <Polygon> and then under that
[06:43] <Polygon> #1 38.2 GB (smiley face) ext3  /
[06:43] <eek-0> who loves me?
[06:43] <eek-0> i love me
[06:43] <intelikey> k elitepete then change the variables  LIST="`ls -1 /home/Hammer/omen/[1-8] `"
[06:43] <Amaranth> Polygon: You only need a seperate /home if you plan on reinstalling ubuntu and want to keep all your settings.
[06:43] <intelikey> and badabing..
[06:43] <Amaranth> Polygon: Most people don't need it.
[06:43] <Amaranth> Polygon: i'd just let the guided partitioner set things up for you.
[06:44] <lowman62> kplaylist rocks :)
[06:44] <Polygon> ok
[06:44] <Polygon> but still, how do i
[06:44] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: okay, done.
[06:44] <Polygon> wait
[06:44] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   try it
[06:44] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Same error.
[06:44] <eek-0> how can i make a shell for a dude?
[06:45] <Polygon> ok
[06:45] <Polygon> my friend says thats fine
[06:45] <Polygon> but,
[06:45] <Polygon> at defualt
[06:45] <Polygon> swap is 1.6 gb
[06:45] <Polygon> i want it to be 1 gb
[06:45] <lowman62> eek-0: create a new user profile?
[06:45] <eek-0> umm
[06:45] <Polygon> but when i resize it, it says 1 gb swap and everything, then .6 unusable
[06:45] <eek-0> ima have to foward some ports and whatnot, aren't i?
[06:46] <that_weasel> is there a way to set a timeout value with ubuntu's default DHCP setup?
[06:46] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: :(
[06:46] <lowman62> eek-0: what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:46] <Polygon> is there any way i can make it so that swap is 1 gig and that .6 unusable go to root?
[06:46] <eek-0> iono
[06:46] <intelikey> ElitePete even   LIST="`ls -1 /home/Hammer/omen/[1-8] *fastbot*`"    <--- if you need to be specific.   you could even add the dirs as path in the script if needed    line 3 like this  PATH="$PATH:/home/Hammer/omen/*/"
[06:46] <navarone> Polygon probably unallocatred space after the resize...take up unallocated by another partition in gparted maybe
[06:47] <lowman62> eek-0: are you trying to allow access from a remote computer ...say a friend or something?
[06:47] <that_weasel> Polygon: do you have enough space to save everything on the actual root partition to somewhere else?
[06:47] <Jared> wha tis the package name for debhelper
[06:47] <intelikey> and don't worry about the path change it only affects the script and the subprocesses  not the shell it's self
[06:47] <eek-0> lowman62, yes
[06:47] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   not done yet
[06:47] <Polygon> umi dont get what you mean
[06:47] <ElitePete> intelikey, i appreciate the help but i'm confused... how do i do this exactly.?
[06:48] <Jared> Does anyone know the package name for debhelper
[06:48] <Polygon> im installing this on one hard drive
[06:48] <intelikey> some how i knew that was comming..... :)
[06:48] <lowman62> eek-0: okay create another user profile on your system then you will want to install ssh client and dameon and allow him shell access
[06:48] <eek-0> sshd?
[06:49] <lowman62> yes sshd
[06:49] <intelikey> ElitePete give me an exact file name that you need to exec and i'll build it for you, and you can modify it as you like.
[06:49] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   add these 2 lines   under section "Monitor" right under the DPMS line   HorizSync       30-80    and  VertRefresh        40-120
[06:49] <eek-0> okie
[06:49] <eek-0> apt-get install sshd?
[06:49] <intelikey> full path ^
[06:49] <ElitePete> intelikey, path is home/Hammer/omen/1 to 8 the app is ./fastbot
[06:49] <lowman62> eek-0: what operating system does your friend use? windows?
[06:50] <eek-0> i dont know
[06:50] <eek-0> its just for anyone
[06:50] <lowman62> yes sudo apt-get sshd
[06:50] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   i lowerd the numbers   on purpose so we dont cause extra problems
[06:50] <intelikey> ElitePete so /home/Hammer/omen/1/fastbot   <--- is that correct ?
[06:50] <intelikey> for file one ?
[06:50] <eek-0> umm
[06:50] <ElitePete> intelikey, fastbot is an app.
[06:50] <eek-0> can this allow someone to connect to my computer and get root?
[06:50] <ElitePete> intelikey, but yes it is.
[06:50] <Polygon> is there any way i can install swap at the end of the free space and have the .6 unusable go to root?
[06:51] <intelikey> yes ok give me a sec
[06:51] <Polygon> cause even if i do that, it still says "unusable"
[06:51] <lowman62> eek-0 I use sshd and carry a copy of putty around with me so I can log into my machine whereever I am...tis cool
[06:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: okay done.
[06:51] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    try it
[06:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: Same problem.
[06:51] <lowman62> yes it can if you advertise open ports ;)
[06:51] <Zen> yo
[06:51] <eek-0> :(
[06:51] <eek-0> i shalln't
[06:51] <eek-0> then
[06:51] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    for giggles  can you try a reboot
[06:51] <eek-0> :))))#)#)#)
[06:52] <Zen> so after my install of breezy died, I reinstalled the 32-bit version
[06:52] <lowman62> eek-0: you have a router?
[06:52] <eek-0> nope
[06:52] <eek-0> umm
[06:52] <Zen> it's just as fast and stuff actually works
[06:52] <eek-0> what kind of FTP client could i use on linux?
[06:52] <Zen> I guess that linux is just more snappy than XP :)
[06:52] <lowman62> ftpd
[06:52] <Zen> eek-0: I use gftp
[06:52] <Polygon> anyone?
[06:52] <ArabianMystic> pashaw: I suppose so...
[06:52] <lowman62> or do you mean ftp client?
[06:53] <Zen> client he said
[06:53] <Zen> eek-0: GFTP works great
[06:53] <eek-0> okay
[06:53] <lowman62> gftp is good for gui...nsftp is good for CLI
[06:54] <pato> Hi!!! i need kazaa.. apollon is good? i have edubuntu.
[06:54] <Polygon> can anyone help me install ubuntu? i thin amaranth dissapeared
[06:54] <glick> excuse me
[06:54] <eek-0> where do i get gftp?
[06:54] <glick> how come when i try to open a torrent file with bittorrent
[06:54] <Zen> I can't get the ATI driver installer to spit out a distro specific package--the error is in the pastebin
[06:54] <glick> i get the following error
[06:54] <intelikey> ElitePete try that.
[06:55] <lowman62> eek-0: sudo apt-get gftp
[06:55] <intelikey> there are houndreds of ways to ger to rome
[06:55] <glick> Problem connecting to tracker: urlopen(-2, 'Name or service not known')
[06:55] <Zen> does the fglrx package in synaptic have the 3D support?
[06:55] <ElitePete> intelikey,  ok thanks, i have a problem with i kill those fastbot proces's from ssh they restart automatically what can i do abotu that so i can try your script
[06:55] <intelikey> all roads lead to rome
[06:55] <eek-0> nope
[06:55] <eek-0> isn't there
[06:55] <Polygon> anyone...
[06:55] <lowman62> eek-0: you running breezy?
[06:56] <intelikey> killall fastbot
[06:56] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, Hey, it worked :D
[06:56] <eek-0> what the hell is breezy
[06:56] <Zen> Ubuntu 5.10 is breezy
[06:56] <lowman62> heh...nevermind
[06:56] <lowman62> :P
[06:56] <Zen> each release has codenames
[06:56] <eek-0> i dont know
[06:56] <eek-0> what version
[06:56] <eek-0> it is
[06:56] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, Thank you so much!
[06:56] <eek-0> :)
[06:56] <Zen> 5.04 is Hoary for example
[06:56] <intelikey> maybe   and you could use top  or  ps to see what is calling them ElitePete
[06:56] <Zen> I think
[06:56] <eek-0> type
[06:56] <ElitePete> ok intelikey,
[06:56] <lowman62> brb smoke break :P
[06:56] <eek-0> ./ctcp version eek-0
[06:57] <ElitePete> 95433  pf- S      0:00.01 ./fastbot
[06:57] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    the reboot worked?
[06:57] <Polygon> can anyone help me here?
[06:57] <agt_> !fonts
[06:57] <ubotu> fonts is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[06:57] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, it did! :D
[06:57] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    ok now you have the nex few weeks to fine tune your X using  the ati driver
[06:57] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, is there anything else I should do to it?
[06:58] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, eh?
[06:58] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   save a copy of the "forced" settings we entered
[06:58] <intelikey> ps -A fx       ElitePete
[06:58] <Polygon> i need assitance to install ubunto
[06:58] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, right?
[06:58] <Polygon> ubuntu**
[06:58] <ElitePete> intelikey, whats $JOE
[06:58] <glick> does anyone know what that error means?>
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Okay, so I got the suspend script to remove the HSF modem driver module in preparation, but it would be better if I could nicely hang up the connection before that.  What sort of command would end a wvdial session (doing the same as Ctrl-C in it)?
[06:58] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   all we did was force your hardware to use basic settings
[06:59] <Polygon> glick: means your torrent cant connect to the tracker so it cant start downloading,
[06:59] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, so it's not perfect is what you're saying?
[06:59] <intelikey> a veriable  set in the script.    i could have used  'i'  or 'X'  or any name for it....
[06:59] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   vesa is basic  your 3d stuff will stink        want to try the ati driver again
[06:59] <ElitePete> intelikey, 100  v0  Is+    0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0
[07:00] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, I seem to recall something called firegl. If I installed this would my problems be over?
[07:00] <glick> damn
[07:00] <Polygon> can anyone help me try to install ubuntu? i need assitance with partitioning my hd
[07:00] <intelikey> that's  the parent process running fastbot/s    ?
[07:00] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   change the vesa back to "rs480"   i think thats what you had before?
[07:01] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, my driver field read, simply, "ati" before.
[07:01] <glick> Polygon, just let ubuntu partitioin it for you
[07:01] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   try it   you can always  put the vesa back if it fails
[07:01] <Polygon> i need to edit it though
[07:01] <Polygon> its wanting to make my swap file 2 gigs
[07:01] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, try setting it to "ati" or "rs480" ?
[07:01] <Polygon> and i dont want that
[07:01] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   ati
[07:01] <Polygon> but if i change it it makes the left over "unusabler"
[07:02] <ElitePete> intelikey, i guess.
[07:02] <glick> damn my gtk-gnutella wont connect to anything either
[07:02] <Polygon> **unusable
[07:02] <glick> what the hell
[07:02] <Polygon> so im wondering how to make it so that there is no unusable
[07:02] <intelikey> ElitePete i dought you want to kill  ttyv0  but maybe the first subprocess that is parent to fastbot
[07:02] <intelikey> doubt even
[07:03] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, okay, I'll restart now...
[07:04] <Jared> does anyone know that package name for debhelper
[07:04] <pashaw> Polygon, are you forcing the 4th partition into primary
[07:04] <eek-0> so umm
[07:04] <eek-0> wget http://gftp.seul.org/gftp-2.0.18.tar.gz
[07:04] <intelikey> Jared apt-cache search debhelper
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> What command would end a wvdial session?  (Or any session that it can find running rather.)
[07:05] <Jared> i didn't find it but it says i need it to install the java-package
[07:05] <intelikey> tonyyarusso killall wvdial
[07:05] <glick> why wont gtk-gnutella connect to any nodes?
[07:05] <Polygon> i dont think so
[07:05] <Polygon> all i really want to change is
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Thanks.
[07:05] <intelikey> or control C in the controling term
[07:05] <Polygon> the swap file partiton to 1 gig
[07:05] <HeartBT> I would like to install xubuntu onto a drive that has a working suse on it.  any advice before I dig in?
[07:05] <Polygon> but when i do resize it , the rest of the space is unusable
[07:06] <eek-0> gah
[07:06] <intelikey> tonyyarusso if you started it with just the command  wvdial [agrs optional]     then  ^C
[07:06] <eek-0> whats the tar command? tar zxvf filename?
[07:06] <pashaw> HeartBT, as a dual boot   or erasing the Suse
[07:06] <HeartBT> btw, I'd like to save the suse file sys.  at least for a bit.
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, I want to run the killer separately from an unrelated script.
[07:06] <HeartBT> yeah.
[07:06] <intelikey> yes killall
[07:06] <glick> does anyone know why gtk wont connect to anything?
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, (For certain situations.)
[07:07] <pashaw> HeartBT,   nope  should work fine
[07:07] <lowman> hmm
[07:07] <HeartBT> pashaw, now when I get the files out of the suse home dir, and want to eleiminate the suse filesys, what then?
[07:07] <Polygon> pashaw: how do i make it so i can resize the swap without the left over space being unusable?
[07:08] <lowman> time to move back to the desktop...laterz :P```
[07:08] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, unfortunately I had to set it back to vesa as ati didn't work...
[07:08] <HeartBT> wow, the man in demand.
[07:08] <pashaw> HeartBT,   lots of options    delete and remake the partitions   or resize
[07:09] <navarone> Polygon...in my experience in gparted you can only take up unallocated space if it is to the right of the other partition in the gparted gui...
[07:09] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, where to from here?
[07:09] <Polygon> im in the installation of ubuntu right now
[07:09] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i wrote my own dialup script as a frontend for wvdial.   and yes killall wvdial is the prefered method from a script.      if you just kill the wvdial pid it does not disconnect  i,e, the pppd stays active.   killall will stop the pppd process that wvdial called also thus terminating the connection.
[07:09] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   bummer   where now you have a project   learn a your way around the poor ati support
[07:09] <navarone> oh you're installing...lol
[07:09] <Polygon> yeah
[07:09] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   omg  typing while cat jumped on me
[07:09] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, I see...
[07:10] <HeartBT> pashaw, no forseen problems?  great.  I'll start the dl.
[07:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, heheheh
[07:10] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    lost my train of thought
[07:10] <Polygon> so i dont see why root can go all the way up to 39 or whatever and then swap can take up the last gig
[07:10] <navarone> Polygon...can't hjelp you there I let auto partitioner work its magic
[07:10] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, Well, thank you for all your help - I am most sincerely gratified.
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Good to know.  Could I get a copy of your script perhaps?
[07:10] <intelikey> sure.
[07:10] <ben__> hello all
[07:10] <HeartBT> ArabianMystic, I found ATI so hard to deal with in linux, I replaced all my ATI cards but one.  Just to give an idea how frustrating they can be.
[07:10] <pashaw> Polygon,    how many partitions are on that drive     before you mess with resizing the swap
[07:11] <ben__> i just started using ubuntu last night
[07:11] <ben__> im very impressed so far
[07:11] <ben__> kudos to linux
[07:11] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   np  thats happen to me before   glad i could help
[07:11] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, ;)
[07:11] <Polygon> ok so far there is just root, (38.2) and swap (1.6)
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Would pastebin work for you for that?
[07:11] <Zen> I seem to be having a little trouble getting the fglrx driver working--keeps showing MESA
[07:11] <HeartBT> ben__, you new to linux altogether?
[07:11] <pashaw> Polygon,    no windows partitions?  only 2
[07:11] <navarone> ben__,  how was it to get this far...? Some peoples experience varies..mostly config issues in my experience
[07:12] <ben__> yep
[07:12] <Polygon> there is also "primary" up top, root and swap are part of "logical"
[07:12] <Polygon> this is a seprate hard drive
[07:12] <Polygon> from my windows OS
[07:12] <ben__> oh and it was exceedingly easy
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> Uh-oh.  Clamscan is beeping at me to indicate it's finding stuff...
[07:12] <pashaw> Polygon,   on the drive your messing with    your using the entire thing for Ubuntu
[07:12] <navarone> ben__, "free" help too...:)
[07:12] <Polygon> ya
[07:12] <ben__> i was worried about seriously screwing up my windows partition, but it worked like a charm
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Well that's kind of slick.
[07:12] <pashaw> Polygon,   what size is it
[07:13] <HeartBT> ben__, My girlfriend has finally decided to give linux a wing once I showed her unbuntu, dragged her feet for two years.  15 minutes and I was formatting an XP drive.
[07:13] <war-totem> anyone ever come across a script or prog that can change your desktop at random or on reboots?
[07:13] <Polygon> the one for ubuntu is 40 gigs
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, There is such a thing, I know that much.
[07:13] <Zen> need help installing ati 3d support
[07:13] <aeon17x> !ati
[07:13] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:13] <navarone> ben_...you should amke a boot disk in case...in terminal go grub-install fd0  < -- and have floppy in drive. Will come in useful if things go pearshaped
[07:14] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: would you be able to point me in a direction?
[07:15] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i run that as root but you can do anything you like with it.... that's what open sourse is all about... :)
[07:15] <ben__> for me an especially cool thing is that it automatically connects me to the net as soon as my desktop is up (i still am stuck with dialup)
[07:15] <Fwtidic> q tal
[07:15] <pashaw> Polygon,   40G?    why are you worried about a 2G swap that leaves 38G for your linux toys
[07:15] <Zen> ubotu: that would be relevent, but my problem is abnormal
[07:15] <Zen> I don't need help installing it, I've done it probably a dozen times
[07:15] <Zen> just this time it isn't working
[07:15] <HeartBT> war-totem, don't know if it's exactly what you were looking for, or if your running gnome or not, but I just was looking at this.  http://swik.net/GNOME/GNOME+Hacks
[07:15] <intelikey> also it logs to /var/log/wvdial_log
[07:15] <navarone> ben__, or get a live cd or rescue cd...it saved my butt a few times so far...:)
[07:15] <navarone> ben__, I feel your pain...
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, I'll try; I'll get back to you.
[07:15] <navarone> I've only been on dsl for about three years...before that 56k...:(
[07:15] <eek-0> umm
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Precisely.
[07:15] <eek-0> son of a bitch
[07:15] <eek-0> can't use gftp
[07:15] <intelikey> you might like that one better tonyyarusso
[07:15] <ben__> i have to say that ubuntu seems to be the friendliest free linux out there (Linspire looks pretty decent, but its not free)
[07:15] <eek-0> need to update glib
[07:16] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Zen
[07:16] <groogs_> anyone have any luck getting X11 to use a widescreen lcd?
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> How come?  (What's different?)
[07:16] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: thanks
[07:16] <intelikey> look inside them and see.
[07:16] <Polygon> good point
[07:16] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: ill let you know if i find anything
[07:17] <niffe> where does Xserver keep error logs?
[07:17] <Polygon> i  guess ill just leave it the way it is
[07:17] <Zen> ubotu: On step 2--after following the instructions what happens is that it says it can't find the module when I do "depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx"
[07:17] <ubotu> Zen: that's too long
[07:17] <pashaw> Polygon,  if your worried about maximum space you dont want my advice anyway as id break off part of that drive for a seperate /home
[07:17] <Xkiddiegrinders> is there a way I can start up into a terminal instead of the GUI?
[07:17] <zblach> hey, can anyone help me through the new user creation process?
[07:17] <groogs_> niffe: /var/log
[07:17] <Polygon> well i got part of my 120 gig hard drive for most of my files
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, I've got something.  I just bought a book called Linux Desktop Hacks, and that's one of them.
[07:17] <Polygon> so space isnt a issue
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Shall I pm it to you?
[07:18] <pashaw> Polygon,   all my systems home and work servers use 1.4G or more swaps      bad things happen if a swap fills
[07:18] <intelikey> tonyyarusso you do know that i use cli mostly, and all my scripts are geared to console mode...   if that makes any differance.    they should work in a terminal just as well.  but that is not the intended use.
[07:18] <jean> anyone play anything having to do with nethack before?
[07:18] <Polygon> well its like 1.6 now
[07:19] <Polygon> plus i got 512 mb of ram
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, I do both.
[07:19] <Polygon> thinkthat is enough?
[07:19] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: yes please
[07:19] <pashaw> Polygon,   yep  good start  IMHO
[07:19] <mrkoje> jean,  I haven't heard anyone talk about nethack forever
[07:19] <durt> nice quit message
[07:19] <Polygon> ok ill just leave it then
[07:19] <mrkoje> jean,  last time I heard anything about it was in the linux journal
[07:20] <Polygon> thanks for your help, ill come back if i have any other questions
[07:20] <jessica_> is there a certain way to install java?
[07:20] <niffe> jessica_: apt-get install java
[07:20] <pashaw> nethack  i know lots of people  that host and play it
[07:20] <niffe> maybe...
[07:21] <intelikey> so now everybody pings tonyyarusso for announcing that.......
[07:21] <jessica_> wheres that at?
[07:21] <intelikey> !jre
[07:21] <ubotu> Not a clue, intelikey
[07:22] <intelikey> !java
[07:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:22] <jessica_> yeah that didnt help me at all that wiki thing
[07:22] <intelikey> !javadeb
[07:22] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[07:22] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: did you pm me? im on irssi and am not sure how to handle pms
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Yeah, I tried.
[07:22] <saadat> Hello
[07:22] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: oh, can you just give a link here?
[07:23] <intelikey> war-totem [alt] #
[07:23] <war-totem> intelikey: then i guess i didnt get it
[07:23] <saadat> Does anyone have problem accessing http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BreezyCust
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, I'm not sure how irssi works either.
[07:23] <intelikey> where # is the window that has the message.
[07:23] <heather> wtf
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, So would that be my nick for this?
[07:23] <Nikusan> samba related question.. smb:/// no longer shows the workgroup that all of my machines are on (xp & ubuntu), but if I use smb://computer_name it connects to the shares fine. I'm not sure what's changed. Any ideas?
[07:23] <heather> how does this shit work?
[07:24] <grajul> hi im trying to install doom 3 demo but every where i try to install it say i do not have permitions to install it there
[07:24] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: try it again
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> heather, What exactly are you referring to?
[07:24] <heather> limewire it
[07:24] <heather> IRC
[07:24] <grajul> can any one please help me
[07:24] <heather> in general
[07:24] <intelikey> tonyyarusso ?   not sure what you are asking ?
[07:24] <sklav> ! ubotu install flash
[07:24] <ubotu> sklav: No idea
[07:24] <sklav> ! ubotu install nvidia
[07:24] <heather> okay i have linux on my mac.
[07:24] <ubotu> sklav: No idea
[07:25] <heather> i just found IRC
[07:25] <sklav> ! ubotu  flash
[07:25] <ubotu> sklav: Syntax error in line 1
[07:25] <heather> and so im here
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> !irc
[07:25] <ubotu> irc is probably info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[07:25] <heather> but so how does it work?
[07:25] <sklav> hey how do i speak to ubotu
[07:25] <sklav> i want to ask a simple question like proper way to install flash
[07:25] <Kaiser_Away> !tell sklav about ubotu
[07:25] <Kaiser_Away> !tell sklav about flash
[07:25] <grajul> i cant install doom 3 because it say i do not have the permitions can any please help me im brand new to this
[07:26] <pashaw> heather,   here people ask questions about Ubuntu problems and we try to help
[07:26] <heather> i see
[07:26] <heather> lol