[15:07] <Cas07> adam61: copy and paste to the link he posted.....
[15:07] <a1cypher1> I'm having a strange issue with apt-get in my kubuntu install.   For whatever reason, every package it tries to get fails because it puts a blank space between the server address and the path to the updates and causes it to 404 on everything.   Anybody have an idea how to fix this?
[15:07] <compdoc> means you go to patebin.com and paste it all there and give use the url
[15:07] <Antwon> cant change it to my default resolution any more
[15:07] <compdoc> *give us
[15:07] <abhinav_singh> any donut for me
[15:07] <adam61> ok thanks i'll do that
[15:09] <adam61> mneptok: http://dpaste.com/540738/  is that right?
[15:09] <compdoc> adam61, good job
[15:09] <mneptok> adam61: it is. is Ubuntu installed to the disk in question?
[15:10] <adam61> no, haven't installed ubuntu yet because i'm afraid it will overwrite windows
[15:10] <a1cypher1> anybody have any ideas how to fix apt  ?
[15:10] <Bigvjc> hi
[15:10] <mneptok> adam61: it will
[15:10] <adam61> compdoc, thanks
[15:10] <abhinav_singh> i am having a brand new laptop..i wanna install ubuntu 11.04 on it..it has 500 gb hard disk..i want 3 parrtitions on it..how much space should i keep for home and root and how much swap space should i use
[15:10] <mneptok> adam61: what version of Windows?
[15:10] <adam61> mneptok, it was windows 7
[15:10] <Bigvjc> need help android google app maker
[15:11] <mneptok> adam61: was? or is?
[15:11] <adam61> well it got a virus and now won't load
[15:11] <adam61> so is i guess
[15:11] <compdoc> adam61, those are all very small partitions. how big is the drive for windows?
[15:11] <xmaz> Bigvjc: think you should ask that in #android
[15:11] <novoid> I have Debian Sqeeze with /home mounted as encrypted luks. Am I able to install 11.04 and switch to my encrypted /home afterwards by simply editing /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab?
[15:11] <elementz> tach allerseits. kennt sich jemand von euch gut mit vim aus? ich kann pötzlich kein ö mehr im insert modus eingeben. unter vim springt er einfach zurück in den normalen modus, unter gvim bekomme ich die meldung "this filetype is currently _not_supported_". was kann das sein? ein plugin? sonstwas?
[15:11] <adam61> it's an 80 gb hard drive, just one
[15:11] <LetsGo67>  Cas07 ccsm setting do not work!
[15:11] <yoshie> Need help please, ubuntu frezzing during insallation, never had this problem before new release.
[15:11] <mib_mib> mneptok: so can i just put files in /etc/rc.local and it will work? in that it says 'in order to enable this script just change the execution bits' -- what are the execution bits?
[15:11] <adam61> i think my friend partitioned it a number of times or somtehing
[15:11] <elementz> oh sorry. wrong channel
[15:12] <Cas07> LetsGo67: what do you mean it wont work?
[15:12] <NoXzema> Why does the ubuntu-desktop need to be uninstalled for xubuntu-desktop?
[15:12] <NoXzema> I figured we could have multiple DEs?
[15:12] <adam61> mneptok, i know all of my files are on just one partition, i just don't know which. can you tell?
[15:13] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else use pidgin with skype on 11.04?
[15:13] <mneptok> compdoc: "df -h" will not display unmounted volumes, so adam61's 80GB hard disk does not appear in its output
[15:13] <escott> adam61, were you the guy who had the gpt partition table? if so make sure to mention that to mneptok
[15:13] <wcrucius> I am trying to set up a low-power server which runs from compact-flash.  To eliminate CF wearout, I just want to reduce cache flush drastically.  I've done this easily in the past, but now in natty I can't get pm-utils removed (apt-get remove pm-utils wants to remove a bunch of other core stuff like gdm and ubuntu-desktop).  Any suggestions?
[15:13] <adam61> escott, yes that was me!
[15:13] <mneptok> adam61: now "ls /dev/sda*"
[15:13] <adam61> mneptok, ok thanks
[15:14] <escott> adam61, have you heard from the LUG? they might be able to give you a newer install disk
[15:14] <ayrton_> usr13: i switched back to network-manager and i connect and have internet, but it drops after 5 minutes
[15:14] <adam61> mneptok: http://dpaste.com/540742/
[15:14] <ayrton_> and if i reconnect i have internet for only 5 minutes again
[15:14] <adam61> escott, haven't tried that yet, but i will if this doesn't work
[15:15] <NoXzema> Man Pidgin still has major problems just like 3 years ago :/
[15:16] <NoXzema> Is that project abandoned?
[15:16] <mneptok> adam61: so what you want to do is use Ubuntu to suck files off a broken Windows installation?
[15:16] <Pici> NoXzema: No, its still being developed.
[15:16] <adam61> mneptok, yes i think that's pretty much it
[15:16] <NoXzema> Anyways, I was wondering why we can't have multiple DEs?
[15:16] <mib_mib> if i need to run a command from the command line (logged in as ROOT) as a different user, how do i do that (without switching to that user)
[15:17] <mneptok> NoXzema: wait until you see the problems Linux users have with Skype in 6 months. ;/
[15:17] <adam61> i just don't want to lose my 50 gb of mp3s
[15:17] <crond> NoXzema, sure you can. I have Unity, Classic, and XFCE.
[15:17] <Pici> NoXzema: It shouldn't be an issue, but anyway, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, removing it doesn't remove the rest of Ubuntu.
[15:17] <thiebaude> mneptok: i heard about that
[15:17] <arand> mib_mib: sudo I would guess
[15:17] <ayrton_> does any1 know why this happens? its annoying
[15:17] <Tetsuo55> how do i force close the unity launcher? its staying open
[15:17] <NoXzema> Pici, so, removing the package doesn't remove Unity?
[15:17] <Pici> NoXzema: Correct.
[15:17] <NoXzema> Ic ...
[15:18] <new_kid1>  NoXzema:  What about skype....please explain
[15:18] <crond> NoXzema, you can sudo apt-get remove unity, worked for me, YMMV, don't blame me if your box eats you.4
[15:18] <wcrucius> NE1?
[15:18] <mib_mib> arand: does that just run it as root?
[15:18] <Roasted> I installed XFCE on my 11.04 netbook. While I want XFCE to be an option, I do not want the XFCE login screen. How can I change it?
[15:18] <aeon-ltd> Roasted: what do you want instead?
[15:18] <NoXzema> new_kid1, I don't have a problem with skype. I have a major problem with Pidgin.
[15:18] <Roasted> aeon-ltd, the default 11.04 login screen
[15:18] <arand> mib_mib: lokk at the man page.
[15:19] <Pici> Roasted: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:19] <adam61> escott, i succeeded in created a bootable usb drive with ubuntu 11, but gparted still wouldn't recognize my windows files
[15:19] <aeon-ltd> Roasted: unisntall the xfce login manager, install gdm - the default gnome login manager
[15:19]  * ceed^ wonders if Microsoft will maintain the Linux version of Skype...
[15:19] <new_kid1>  NoXzema: Oh.......okay
[15:19] <escott> adam61, hmmm thats weird
[15:19] <mneptok> adam61: "sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media/windows"
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ceed^, yeah was wondering that as well
[15:20] <NoXzema> Out of honesty though, I don't particularly like Skype for many reasons.
[15:20] <Silly> What is this windows installer thing I see on the ubuntu web page? Is it something similar to sygwin, where it runs a nix environment under windows or is it just an automated way of setting up a dual boot?
[15:20] <xmaz> ceed^: they will probably stop supporting it :P
[15:20] <Silly> cygwin
[15:20] <adam61> mneptok, ok thx i did that
[15:20] <mneptok> adam61: that will mount the second partition of your internal disk (the first one is probably a vendor recovery partition) into /media/windows in Ubuntu. you will have read-only access.
[15:20] <NoXzema> I don't like many applications that mimic Skype functionality.
[15:20] <AceKing> How can I update the ATI® Mobility Radeon™ HD 4250 graphics driver from grub terminal?
[15:20] <ceed^> BluesKaj: My situation is that I'm allowed to use Linux for Work as long as I can run Skype. If the Linux version goes away I'm back on Windows :(
[15:20] <AceKing> install not update
[15:21] <wcrucius> I need to remove pm-utils but 'apt-get remove pm-utils' wants to remove gdm and lots of other required stuff, how do I prevent that?
[15:21] <arand> Silly: If you refer to wubi, no, it sets up a dual-boot using the wondows bootloader and a loopmounted file on the ntfs filesystem.
[15:21] <mneptok> adam61: so was "sda2" the correct partition? do you see your data?
[15:21] <allu2> ceed^: ?
[15:21] <yannf> hello
[15:21] <Roasted> pici - do I need a reboot for that?
[15:21] <NoXzema> I think this channel should be split up. It's kinda hard to read conversations.
[15:21] <adam61> mneptok, not quite sure how to check, would i go to computer, file system, media, windows?
[15:21] <Pici> Roasted: Er, I'm not sure.
[15:22] <Roasted> Pici, logging in/out didn't do anything. rebooting now.
[15:22] <ayrton_> any1 good with wireless? , my connection just stops working after 5 minutes and doesnt start till i reconnect
[15:22] <Roasted> Pici, just booted up - no dice.
[15:22] <mneptok> adam61: quite so
[15:22] <ayrton_> and then it does it again
[15:22] <Silly> arand, Ah, that's what I wanted to know, my usual method is to use virtualbox... my usual work environment involves switching back and forth between win/nix often...
[15:22] <adam61> mneptok, omg! i think it worked!
[15:22] <Pici> Roasted: did it give you a menu to pick which login manager to use?
[15:22] <new_kid1>  ceed^: I can't do withoot skype either .............I am kind of getting addicted to it :-D
[15:22] <Roasted> Pici, oh yes. but the login screen is entirely xfce.
[15:22] <mneptok> adam61: now find some kind of media to copy your stuff onto
[15:23] <Pici> Roasted: You picked GDM though, right?
[15:23] <adam61> mneptok, wow, thank you sooo much, i cannot believe it worked!
[15:23] <adam61> everything's there!
[15:23] <en1gma> ok i put the mbr and /boot on my windows 7 ssd....it looks like this /dev/sda = grub   /dev/sda1 = ntfs windows   and /dev/sda2 = 200MB ext3 for /boot......then on my /dev/sdb (usb flash drive) i have /dev/sdb1 = 9GB ext3 that is /    and then /dev/sdb2 = 1GB swap......when i boot into grub and select ubuntu it does not boot up....i just get flashing cursor in upper left corner.....i check 'mount' and nothing is mounted
[15:23] <Roasted> Pici, oh, crap. I was on the wrong thing. give me a second.
[15:23] <ayrton_> need help with my wireless problem please
[15:23] <adam61> mneptok, you're a life saver
[15:23] <Harith> hi, please I'm tired of searching without any success, I have ATI Radeon HD 5470 Intel HD Graphics embedded in core i3, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 and tried the restricted drivers, but failed to be installed, any guide on how to install such a graphic card???
[15:23] <Roasted> Pici, I never saw that option actually.
[15:23] <en1gma> what else do i need to do to make it boot the usb flash drive
[15:23] <adam61> escott, thanks for your help yesterday too
[15:23] <Roasted> Pici, the command in terminal returned with 0 output.
[15:24] <arand> Silly: VM/cygwin is your best bet so far I think, canonical is working on an online instance of ubuntu I think, but it's not complete I think..
[15:24] <mneptok> adam61: copy the stuff you want (and know is uninfected) onto some external media, and reinstall Windows (and install Linux ;) ) when you have a backup
[15:24] <BluesKaj> ceed^, maybe mw will maintain one , after all there are free windows versions ... ms isn't about not making money , so they might even offer a commercial linux version , ome can only hope )
[15:24] <BluesKaj> mw=ms
[15:24] <yannf> I have a problem with system authorization: in "control center", I get a request for a password, but I only an error
[15:24] <adam61> mneptok, thank you a million times, i never thought this would work, i am soo happy lol
[15:24] <yannf> this came after I've installed Debian in another partition using the same /home
[15:25] <ChrisGagnon> ayrton_: what wireless card do you have?
[15:25] <mneptok> adam61: i'll PM my PayPal details >:P
[15:25] <wcrucius> anyone?
[15:25]  * thiebaude loves my partitions
[15:25] <adam61> mneptok lol!!
[15:25] <thiebaude> :)
[15:25] <ayecee> wcrucius: anyone what?
[15:25] <Pici> Roasted: one moment
[15:25] <Bigvjc> me i ned held
[15:25] <ayrton_> umm, broadcam?
[15:25] <Bigvjc> help
[15:25] <Roasted> Pici, appreciate it bro.
[15:26] <Bigvjc> i
[15:26] <LetsGo67> Cas07: i moved the dock downwards and auto-hide, but it remains on the left and won't hide.
[15:26] <wcrucius> need to apt-get remove pm-utils, however that wants to remove other stuff that I still want, how do I override this?
[15:26] <n2i> Hi all!
[15:26] <n2i> How to set locale for Ubuntu?
[15:26] <Harith> hi, please I'm tired of searching without any success, I have ATI Radeon HD 5470 and Intel HD Graphics embedded in core i3, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 and tried the restricted drivers, but failed to be installed, any guide on how to install such a graphic card???
[15:26] <Cas07> LetsGo67: just to clarify which dock are we talking about?
[15:26] <Pici> Roasted: Just to confirm: You have gdm installed. and ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[15:26] <Bigvjc> app keeps asking for root pass
[15:27] <n2i> I have modified /etc/default/locale but it not ok!
[15:27] <yannf> I have the message 'The application the "network-admin" lets you modify essential parts of your system'
[15:27] <Roasted> Pici, yes.
[15:27] <Roasted> Pici, well
[15:27] <wcrucius> @ayecee: need to apt-get remove pm-utils, however that wants to remove other stuff that I still want, how do I override this?
[15:27] <Roasted> Pici, gdm is installed by default, right
[15:27] <yannf> but in fact, there is no "network-admin" application
[15:27] <ChrisGagnon> ayrton_: what does 'ifconfig' say your wireless card is (ie: wlan0?)
[15:27] <Pici> Roasted: Yes.  And you had installed xdm with xubuntu-desktop, right?
[15:27] <AceKing> usr13, studentz, you guys still here?
[15:27] <LetsGo67> Cas07: Unity.
[15:27] <Roasted> Pici, if xdm is xubuntu's login interface, yes. I installed xubuntu-desktop from software center. nothing more.
[15:27] <n2i> Somebody can help me, please!
[15:28] <yannf> any idea plz?
[15:28] <Pici> Roasted: Try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[15:28] <studentz> AceKing  I'm back sorry urgent call from my boss. where are you now?
[15:28] <auska> hi! can someone help me with these error: http://pastebin.com/dMGHmhRf there is the source and the  compilation error. Thanks ;)
[15:28] <Cas07> LetsGo67: you cannot move the Unity Launcher (dock)
[15:29] <Roasted> Pici, not installed.
[15:29] <AceKing> studentz,  that's ok. I'm back at the grub menu
[15:29] <zaksoldier> Hi
[15:29] <Orbixx> How can I best test the hardware of my system for faults?
[15:29] <froes> anyone ever had problems with pulse audio ??
[15:29] <Orbixx> Motherboard/memory/disks?
[15:29] <LetsGo67> Cas07: Can it hide?  It's blocking the screen!
[15:29] <Pici> Roasted: So... What do you see exactly on your login screen then?
[15:29] <AceKing> studentz, Did you see the output of "ls" I posted before?
[15:30] <Roasted> Pici, Xubuntu's login screen. it's blue with a mouse, etc.
[15:30] <yannf> any idea plz?
[15:30] <Cas07> LetsGo67: In CCSM Unity plugin did you change 'Hide Launcher' to Autohide
[15:30] <studentz> AceKing. the commands for grub are very limited. You cannot modify anything about your driver from there
[15:30] <AceKing> studentz, OK
[15:30] <en1gma> cam amyone help me get my usb 3.0 flash drive up and running?
[15:30] <studentz> AceKing But you can go to a bash terminal. And that is I want you to do
[15:31] <AceKing> studentz, Ok, how do I do that?
[15:31] <studentz> AceKing I missed your result of ls
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  I just plugged my usb 3 Hard drive into a usb3 contrioller card/port and it worked.. Ive not even seen usb3 'flash' drives yet. :)
[15:31] <escott> Orbixx, a memory tester is included in the install media, select it at boot. you can check the smart status of the disks from the disk utility. for cpu related issues people usually run something cpu intensive like prime95
[15:31] <AceKing>  studentz, (hd0,msdos6) (hd0,msdos5)  (hd0,msdos3)  (hd0,msdos2)  (hd0,msdos1)  (hd1)  (hd1,msdos2) (hd1,msdos1)
[15:31] <wcrucius> ok, I'll try this a different way...  Is there an IRC channel for ubuntu apt-get problems?  Or where I might find experts on the subject?
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> wcrucius:  theres the forums, and the askubuntu.com site
[15:31] <en1gma> Dr_Willis i mean to boot from it
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> wcrucius:  also the debian forums may help
[15:32] <en1gma> if i plug my usb 3.0 flash drive into my usb 2.0 port it is of course recognized
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  Oh. :) My usb3 is on a expansion card. cant boot from those ports at all.
[15:32] <Pici> Roasted: Hrm.  I seem to have been mistaken.  xubuntu-desktop ships gdm, not xdm.
[15:32] <wcrucius> tried all that, I don't usually create IRC noise until I've done that already...
[15:32] <compdoc> wcrucius, try the mailing list
[15:32] <en1gma> i just need to know what i need to have on my ssd so it can see my usb 3.0 drive on the usb 3.0 port
[15:33] <wcrucius> this is annoying because I could do exactly what I needed pre-natty...
[15:33] <studentz> AceKing so you have two HD the first one with four partitions the second one with two partitions. It that ok
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  so the usb3 was built into the pcs motherboard then>?
[15:34] <AceKing> studentz, No, one HDD I think I had an external plugged in also. Sorry about that
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> wcrucius:  the askubuntu.com site has been getting a lot of attention lately. Ive been helping out there a lot more then IRC lately.
[15:34] <Cas07> wcrucius: use dpkg instead
[15:34] <Pici> Roasted: This is 11.04?
[15:34] <en1gma> no...the usb 3.0 flash drive looks just like and flash drive (usb stick) its just the usb 3.0 port does not work at POST or whatever
[15:34] <Roasted> Pici, yes
[15:34] <en1gma> so i need to get usb 3.0 port working before linux can boot from it
[15:34] <wcrucius> BTW, is there a better IRC client than "LostIRC"?  I just want to turn off all the joined/exited messages
[15:34] <studentz> AceKing so unplugged the external if you don't need it. and again ls result
[15:35] <wcrucius> @Dr_Willis, thanks, that's one I hadn't thought of
[15:35] <Orbixx> wcrucius: xchat
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  sounds like it may be a hardware/bios limitation then.
[15:35] <erdemy> wcrucius: i don't think so. i like bitchx :)
[15:35] <AceKing> studentz, OK
[15:35] <wcrucius> @Cas07, tried that, same problem
[15:35] <wcrucius> @Orbixx, thx
[15:35] <en1gma> it is...until it gets into windows where the driver is or until linux boots and sees it also
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> I perfer 'weechat ' over irssi or bitchx these days. :)
[15:35] <en1gma> its just driver isnt it
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  booting from it - would requier the bios to properly see it and know it can boot from it.
[15:36] <AceKing>  studentz, (hd0) (hd0,msdos6) (hd0,msdos5)  (hd0,msdos3)  (hd0,msdos2)  (hd0,msdos1)
[15:36] <LetsGo67> Cas07: Yes, autohid.
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  you could some how perhaps make a usb2 drive in a usb2 port boot the system and keep your / and home and stuff on the usb3 - just boot from the usb2
[15:36] <en1gma> Dr_Willis i dont think so
[15:36] <schure> dear all, i am here wondering how to deactivate the ATI/AMD propietary FGLRX graphics driver. My main problem is that I don't even get command line access when I boot. I am booting from usb...
[15:37] <wcrucius> autohid
[15:37] <en1gma> it is recognized after linux boots or windows boots...means it isnt a bios issue or it would never be seen
[15:37] <wcrucius> whoops
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  I know i cant boot from Mine. because its on an expansion card.
[15:37] <studentz> AceKing result of ls (hd0,5)/boot
[15:37] <Harith> schure, I have same problem of yours, what's you card model?
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  linux has drivers for usb3 built in from what i researched.
[15:38] <en1gma> you can if you load the drivers up on your hdd first
[15:38] <schure> Dr_Willis: I am not sure.
[15:38] <schure> Harith: I am not sure.
[15:38] <schure> Harith: It is whatever comes with the hp tm2t
[15:38] <en1gma> when i get to that grub recovery menu what can i type to see if my kernel is even loading
[15:39] <en1gma> when i tell grub to boot lunux off the usb drive and it dont it takes me to a console
[15:39] <Harith> schure, I have ATI Radeon HD 5470 Intel HD Graphics embedded in core i3
[15:39] <Cas07> LetsGo67: well if that doesn't work it must be a bug
[15:39] <adam61> mneptok, i'm back lol.. hopefully just a simple question: the device i was going to use was the same 4Gb usb drive that i'm running ubuntu 11.04 on. but i don't see it listed when i go to paste my files there. any idea why i can't see it?
[15:39] <tesseracter> i know you guys must be getting this a lot, but is there any way to get the file menu back attached to the window instead of up top? i use focus follows mouse, which makes it IMPOSSIBLE to get to the correct dropdown.
[15:39] <schure> Harith: I think it is a radeon hd 5450
[15:39] <falserunes> Hello All
[15:39] <schure> Harith: oh, no, mine is not a core i3; it's the older version that came iwth a core 2 duo
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  you woudl set the 'root' then set linux to point to the kernel .
[15:40] <Dr_Willis>   set root='(/dev/sdb,msdos1)'
[15:40] <Harith> schure, ahaa, and I'm here to find a solution, but no one actually responds 0_0
[15:40] <Dr_Willis>         linux   /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=6b2affce-9dba-4412-b275-0b28d6d1ed4e ro   quiet nosplash
[15:40] <en1gma> Dr_Willis what command do i tell it
[15:40] <falserunes> having problem with X
[15:40] <en1gma> to see the list
[15:40] <schure> Harith: one solution is to reinstall everything...
[15:40] <schure> Harith: which i would leave for next week
[15:41] <en1gma> i mean how do i tell if the kernel is even loading off of /dev/sda2 where /boot is located
[15:41] <Flynsarmy> How do i stop chrome being my default FTP manager when I select FTP addresses in Places menu at the top (11.04). ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/%gconf.xml is already set to nautilus......
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:   not sure with grub2. it may support tab completion, check its 'help' output.
[15:41] <newubuntu> hey anyone here running ubuntu 11.04?
[15:41] <Harith> schure, i already tried that several times
[15:41] <compdoc> sure
[15:41] <schure> Anybody knows where the proprietary drives reside in the filesystem???
[15:41] <compdoc> Ive been using 11.04 since the betas
[15:41] <NoXzema> I'm trying to remove the filesystem icons on my destkop.
[15:42] <AceKing> studentz, grub/ memtest86+.bin config-2.6.32-25-generic-pae abi-2.6.32-25-generic-pae system.map-2.6.32-25-generic-pae vmcoreinfo-2.6.32-25-generic-pae initrd.img-2.6.32-25-generic-pae vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic-pae
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  you would run that set root comamdn and the linux command, then  im not sure. if its 'boot' or what command to make it actually boot. I havent had to handload grub2 much.
[15:42] <NoXzema> How do I do so?
[15:42] <Flynsarmy> schure: your HDDs will be in /media
[15:42] <schure> Harith: what do you mean? you booted from usb and installed everything, asking the installer to format your drive, and you still had the driver installed afterwards?
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> NoXzema:  the unsupoported program 'ubuntu-tweak' has a checkbox to do it. Its some gnome conf setting. But i cant recall how to do it by hand.
[15:42] <newubuntu> compdoc: do u like it more than 10.10?
[15:42] <en1gma> Dr_Willis so am i running grub2 then
[15:42] <schure> Flynsarmy: thanks, i'll look at it.
[15:42] <adam61> compdoc, do you know how to copy files to usb? i can't seem to find it
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  ive no idea what youa re running. :) grub2 is the default in ubuntu for the last few releases.
[15:43] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: before you break things with ubuntu-tweak.. let me tell you. just a second.
[15:43] <compdoc> newubuntu, I think 10.10 is good. I dont see a lot of difference
[15:43] <schure> Anybody knows where the proprietary drivers reside in the filesystem???
[15:43] <en1gma> ok just wanted to make sure...i running 11.04 i386 desktop
[15:43] <schure> Flynsarmy: sorry, i meant drivers not drives
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> I honestly can say ive never broken things with ubuntu-tweak. :) but i pay attention to what im doing. :)
[15:43] <studentz> AceKing what version of Ubuntu are you in?
[15:43] <newubuntu> compdoc: i just started running 11.04(WUBI install) and it feels kinda sluggish and slower than 10.10
[15:43] <compdoc> adam61, you have to mount the usb and copy as usual
[15:44] <NoXzema> bastidrazor, okay...
[15:44] <AceKing> studentz, sorry, memtest86+_multiboot.bin config-2.6.32-25-generic-pae
[15:44] <compdoc> newubuntu, what cpu you have? how much ram?
[15:44] <adam61> compdoc, i think i did mount it, but i don't know which one is my usb
[15:44] <schure> Anybody knows where the proprietary drivers (for example, for graphics cards) reside in the filesystem??? i need to remove one...
[15:44] <AceKing> studentz, 11.04
[15:44] <en1gma> Dr_Willis how can i tell if the /boot is actually even loadied
[15:44] <en1gma> i mean /boot is where the kernel is right?
[15:44] <Harith> schure, I intalled the system, now when it comes to intall the ATI, which I install it manually by downloading the binary file, then after restarting my computer, system doesn't boot, and yes, I install it from USB which has nothing to do with our issue
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:   you set the root variable to be where /boot/ is at i belive.
[15:45] <AceKing> studentz, in the beginning of the readout I forgot some of that text that I retyped
[15:45] <newubuntu> compdoc: it doesnt matter really coz im COMPARING it with 10.10. its startup is also slower dnt u think? btw, its a 1.2 dual core and 1gb ram
[15:45] <compdoc> newubuntu, I have 11.04 running on a few PCs, and using them as servers. If pretty fast and smooth
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  i think grub has a 'find' command, but i would have do double check the grub docs. its been ages.
[15:45] <schure> harith: i suggest you do NOT install the ati.
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[15:45] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: in gconf-editor go to /apps/nautilus/desktop  and uncheck computer_icon_visible or home_icon_visible  .. if it is showing you things you have mounted in /media and you don't want then uncheck volumes_visible.
[15:45] <studentz> AceKing the problem happened after upgrade distribution?
[15:45] <schure> Harith: believe me, you will enjoy your computer more if it works.
[15:45] <AceKing> studentz, yes
[15:45] <compdoc> newubuntu, you use Unity or the classic desktop?
[15:45] <paul_78> hi all Im using Ubuntu 10.10, clean install all works well but no burnning apps can find LG burner but I can read DVD/CD all i can find on google is to install K3b but that didnt work any help wold be grate
[15:45] <newubuntu> compdoc: classic, why?
[15:45] <Tetsuo55> allright, i've joined the ranks of classic mode, unity is far too unstable beta/alpha software
[15:46] <en1gma> yea but there is no command i can do at grub recovery console to see if the kernel is laoded?
[15:46] <adam61> compdoc, how can i tell where the usb drive is after i mounted it? i'm in places and can't see it
[15:46] <saimanoj> hello, everyone i need help regarding ubuntu app development
[15:46] <schure> harith: there seems to be an alternative.
[15:46] <LetsGo67> Cas07: :(
[15:46] <saimanoj> no one is responding at #ubuntu-devel
[15:46] <AceKing> studentz, I wouldn't mind reinstalling except that I have pictures and stuff that I want to get off. When I go in through LiveCD, they are all locked.
[15:46] <compdoc> newubuntu, I hear Unity needs more in the way of video hardware for the 3d stuff
[15:46] <Harith> schure, what is it?
[15:46] <schure> harith: i found a file called source_fglrx-installer.py that tells you what the installation process does.
[15:47] <compdoc> I use classic too
[15:47] <studentz> AceKing please give me a sec :)
[15:47] <AceKing> studentz, ok
[15:47] <en1gma> ok let me try this....thanks Dr_Willis
[15:47] <en1gma> will report back
[15:47] <compdoc> adam61, whats the command you used to mount it? Or did you let it auto-mount?
[15:47] <Harith> schure, where is it? where can I get it from? what's the installation process?
[15:47] <schure> harith: so maybe we can at least unisntall the thing without installing everything over again...
[15:47] <newubuntu> compdoc: yeah thats rt coz it eats more ram for that side pane, but i prefer the classic look wayy more....the unity look feels like its designed for kids dnt ya think?
[15:48] <NoXzema> bastidrazor, I'm using Xfce whatever it uses for its destkop.
[15:48] <NoXzema> It doesn't seem to work with Xfce :/
[15:48] <Flynsarmy> How do i stop chrome being my default FTP manager when I select FTP addresses in Places menu at the top (11.04). ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/%gconf.xml is already set to nautilus......
[15:48] <maniakss> Hello
[15:48] <adam61> compdoc, not sure i can't remember, mneptok was guiding me through it
[15:48] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: i don't know for xfce :(
[15:48] <NoXzema> kk
[15:48] <maniakss> Is there any HD Movies accelerate for AMD HD 48xx Driver or tool?
[15:48] <Harith> schure, I'm listening...
[15:48] <compdoc> newubuntu, well, I think Unity might be nice for phones and tablets, but I like gnome
[15:48] <schure> Harith: i think i will try doing some stuff, but i must boot...
[15:49] <Harith> schure, ok
[15:49] <Jazba> I am connected to [2] IRC servers and [5] channels, owning [1] of [2216] users.
[15:49] <newubuntu> compdoc: i agree fully. i gotta a ques--- does mentioning the name  of a chatter anywhere in a sentence makes a pop up window appear on his/her ubuntu?
[15:49] <gingercyde> 11.1 desktop seems a bit of a big jump from 10.1 anyone else having a hard time getting used to the new layout?
[15:49] <Jazba> oops
[15:50] <adam61> compdoc, actually i think it was my windows partition that i mounted, i don't think i've mounted the usb yet; it has the ubuntu i'm currently running though, is that ok?
[15:50] <newubuntu> gingercycle: u mean 11.04 from 10.10 dont u?
[15:50] <kevin___> what is unity ? is it a new desktop environment?
[15:50] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=698045   post #5 may have the answers you need.
[15:50] <maniakss> Is there any HD Movies accelerate for AMD HD 48xx Driver or tool?
[15:51] <gingercyde> sure, I just saw it updating when I installed
[15:51] <newubuntu> compdoc: man! i was just setting up the clock in ubuntu and it crashed midway! unbelievable yaar!
[15:52] <addiks> hi, does anybody know what to do if the apple-bluetooth-keyboard (without numpad) acts like a numpad-only? (all keys (including shift-LED and FN) dead except: J,K,L,U,I,O,7,8,9 which acts like 1,2,3,4...)
[15:52] <guhcampos> Hello guys, I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my notebook, but using the provided ATI video driver, using dual head leaves a lot of garbage on the screen.
[15:52] <adam61> compdoc, how do i mount the usb if the os i'm running is on that?
[15:52] <guhcampos> Installing the flgrx driver didn't fix, for the contrary: now it will not use the second monitor at all
[15:53] <guhcampos> is there anything I cant do?
[15:53] <compdoc> adam61, sorry, I havent used a usb drive with my ubuntu systems. you would have to find the /dev/ that the usb is. Maybe using dmesg. Im not an expert at usb
[15:53] <escott> adam61, the usb is mounted as /
[15:54] <maniakss> Is there any HD Movies accelerate for AMD HD 48xx Driver or tool?
[15:54] <adam61> escott, thank, so where would i paste my files to?
[15:54] <escott> adam61, you cannot remount that partition (you could bind mount it but that would be silly). if you have a second partition on the usb (uncommon) you could mount that partition, but store your files in /home/yourusername
[15:55] <NoXzema> And last but not least, does anyone know of a Teamspeak 3 ubuntu package?
[15:56] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: did that forum link help?
[15:56] <NoXzema> bastidrazor, kind of. It turns out there's a desktop settings menu if your right click on the desktop lol
[15:56] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: heh, good deal.
[15:56] <maniakss> how to turn off Vsync in AMD?
[15:56] <adam61> escott, i haven't installed any version of ubuntu yet since it would overwrite windows, so i'll probably have only a little bit of room to store in /home/yourusername is that right?
[15:57] <sporedi> how do i search a specific package in other linux its rpm -qa |grep -i name of package
[15:57] <NoXzema> maniakss, you use fglrx or ati?
[15:57] <maniakss> ati CCC
[15:57] <NoXzema> maniakss, there should be a setting for it in 3D settings.
[15:57] <studentz> AceKing set root=(hd0,5)
[15:58] <studentz> AceKing next set root=(hd0,5)
[15:58] <studentz> AceKing next linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic-pae  root=/dev/sda5 ro Single
[15:58] <adam61> escott, can u see a way that i can pull those files off the computer? will i have to create a partition on the usbdrive?
[15:58] <maniakss> ok, i've got it
[15:58] <AceKing> studentz, Ok I'm not sure if you typed anything before that. I froze up after I wrote "OK" to you
[15:58] <studentz> AceKing next initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-25-generic-pae
[15:58] <acidflash> hi
[15:58] <studentz> AceKing next boot
[15:58] <NoXzema> Good, cause my aticccle isn't starting now T.T
[15:59] <acidflash> if i upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 or later, will i lose all of my data and programs?
[15:59] <maniakss> NoXzema, is there any HD movies accelerator?
[15:59] <NoXzema> maniakss, there are, similar to nVidias vdpau...
[15:59] <AceKing> studentz, was there anything before set root=(hd0,5)
[15:59] <eitch0000> hi guys. How is it, that eclipse has an application menu (no global menu) but applications which I write in Eclipse and start do not? Is this also some blacklist as with the panels? My application is Eclipse based
[15:59] <escott> adam61, if your usb drive is large enough you could just copy them to the usbdrive, otherwise you need to back them up to somewhere else
[15:59] <NoXzema> I do not remember what they're called though.
[15:59] <rumpe1> acidflash, depends how you upgrade and if you have enough luck...
[15:59] <maniakss> NoXzema, but does it work for AMD?
[16:00] <escott> adam61, you could use gparted to resize the ntfs partitions, but there is always a risk of data lose so its a good idea to have a backup somewhere
[16:00] <adam61> escott, that's what i was going to do, there should be at least 2 free Gb, but i can't find it in 'Places'
[16:00] <studentz> AceKing nope. I run in my laptop
[16:00] <acidflash> rumpe1: so that means that it might be deleted?
[16:00] <usr13> acidflash: Usually no, but there is alwasy a chance that things will go wrong.  Although it is a small risk, there is a risk.
[16:00] <AceKing> studentz, Ok so I type this right at the same grub prompt right?
[16:01] <NoXzema> maniakss, it's called: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Video_Bitstream_Acceleration
[16:01] <acidflash> usr13: this is ubuntu server, is it the same?
[16:01] <studentz> AceKing yep
[16:01] <NoXzema> mplayer has a plugin for it.
[16:01] <usr13> acidflash: Yes
[16:01] <AceKing> studentz, OK, doing it now
[16:01] <adam61> escott, there's just 'Desktop', 'Filesystem', 'System Reserve', '80 Gb file system', 'Floppy Drive'
[16:01] <acidflash> usr13: ok maybe i should describe whats happened to be exact...
[16:01] <studentz> AceKing linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic-pae  root=/dev/sda5 ro Single
[16:01] <rumpe1> acidflash, as i said... depends. If you like your data, back it up!
[16:02] <usr13> acidflash: I must tell you from my experience, I've done a lot of upgrades and have yet to loose anything.
[16:02] <acidflash> usr13: i have a corrupt ubuntu which im using as a caching system, ubuntu is missing practically everything in bin and sbin... if i upgrade will it fix that and will i get a working system without losing my current files (like the caching system) etc... the only problem is the stuff in /bin and /sbin
[16:02] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:03] <adam61> usr13, sorry to bother you again! i'm not able to see my usb drive in "places"
[16:03] <escott> adam61, your Desktop is on the flash drive and is /home/username/Desktop if there is enough space on the usb thats the best place
[16:03] <jrsdead> hey could someone point me to a guide for doing a netinstall to a machine with no cddrive or floppy from a mac?
[16:03] <usr13> adam61: unplug and plug it back in again.
[16:03] <adam61> escott, ooo ok i think i understand now. so if i just copy it to the desktop there, it should be saved on the device correct?
[16:03] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:03] <escott> adam61, don't unplug the usb if you are running it
[16:04] <usr13> acidflash: So you are using this machine as a caching nameserver?
[16:04] <adam61> usr13, i'm running ubuntu 11 so i can't i don' think
[16:04] <Zmon> no windows at all i can type in
[16:04] <acidflash> usr13: a forward caching proxy
[16:04] <escott> adam61, if you are running the liveusb then the usb is what you are in, everything else looks like it is external to the usb, which is why the usb doesn't appear
[16:05] <maniakss> NoXzema, xvba-va-driver - XvBA-based backend for VA API (AMD fglrx implementation) < -that's it right?
[16:05] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:05] <Zmon> no windows at all i can type in
[16:05] <adam61> escott, i see now, i was very confused, thanks. so if i just copy them to the desktop they will be automatically stored on the usb correct?
[16:05] <escott> adam61, yes they should be. you can reboot and double check but they should be there. the question would be if it is big enough
[16:06] <adam61> escott, ok great, it'll take a few trips but i'll get it, thanks again!!!!
[16:06] <escott> adam61, you can run df -h from the command line and get a sense of how much free space you have on /
[16:06] <AceKing> studentz, restarting now
[16:06] <adam61> ok i'll do that
[16:06] <adam61> thanks
[16:06] <usr13> acidflash: Oh a proxy server... ok.  Well, I don't know if it will fix everything that is missing but it might. But as far as recreating the proxy server, that should be all that hard even if you did have to start from scratch. If you DO decide to do the upgrade, there are some precautions you could take.   You could ghost the drive, (make a copy onto another), and that way, you would only have to switch drives and it'll be like it was before. That is one way.
[16:06] <escott> adam61, if its not big enough consider things like ubuntuOne or getting an external hard drive
[16:07] <AceKing> studentz, same thing
[16:07] <NoXzema> maniakss, most likely.
[16:07] <escott> adam61, or burning lots of cds and dvds for backups
[16:07] <Bigvjc> can i get some help
[16:07] <escott> adam61, or risking the data with a resize of the ntfs
[16:07] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:07] <Zmon> no windows at all i can type in
[16:07] <usr13> acidflash: If you have another drive you can just install it as a slave and ghost it, and if it blows up in your face just take the slave and set it as master and your back to where you were before.
[16:07] <adam61> escott, there's about 350 mb free
[16:07] <AceKing> studentz, It starts flashing before it gets to the login screen and then stops and shows that little line across the top
[16:07] <studentz> AceKing did you already type initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-25-generic-pae   and boot?
[16:07] <adam61> think i'm going to try doing it bit by bit lol
[16:07] <escott> adam61, i cant think of any other options for you really, its basically one of those 4 options
[16:07] <AceKing> studentz, yes
[16:08] <Zmon> hello
[16:08] <adam61> escott, that's great, i'm sure i can get them all now. really appreciate all the help
[16:08] <AceKing> studentz, I'm going to try it again in case I typed something wrong
[16:08] <Bigvjc> im typing this with grafitti for android
[16:08] <usr13> acidflash: You can use dd to ghost one drive to another.   i.e.  dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[16:08] <usr13> acidflash: Something like that.
[16:09] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:09] <maniakss> NoXzema, i can't install it;/
[16:09] <NoXzema> maniakss, why nto?
[16:09] <NoXzema> not*
[16:09] <martian> I used ndiswrapper to install a driver for my laptop's wifi card and all worked well, but upon startup today, it no longer seems to work. The additional drivers applet shows the driver in use, but there is no wifi device shown in ifconfig. what can I do to fix this?
[16:09] <Bigvjc> this rocks
[16:09] <takamarou> Hi all.  I'm not getting a grub menu when I boot up my computer (containing win7 and ubuntu 11.04), so I'm following this tutorial http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/ .  However, I have no menu.lst file in my /boot/grub/ directory? What should I do?
[16:09] <maniakss> NoXzema, fglrx-driver i want this, but there isn't it in repositories
[16:09] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:09] <NisargS> does firefox have to open fully maximized in ubuntu 11.04. even if you resize and close it, it still opens in fully resized mode
[16:09] <NoXzema> Hmm... hold on..
[16:10] <arand> takamarou: grub2 uses grub.cfg instead.
[16:10] <usr13> acidflash:  Or you can use g4u  http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/#reqs
[16:10] <escott> takamarou, you have grub2 and a grub.cfg
[16:10] <NoXzema> lol
[16:10] <NoXzema> It says that it's broken for some reason.
[16:10] <escott> !grub | takamarou
[16:10] <takamarou> arand & escott, thanks!
[16:10] <arand> takamarou: What happens when you boot?
[16:10] <usr13> acidflash: If you have a flash drive or usb drive you could use that as well.
[16:10] <Zmon> can anyone help me
[16:10] <robin0800> takamarou, thats an old guide as there is no menu.1st in grub2
[16:10] <takamarou> arand, it boots straight into Win7.  Directly from POST I see the win7 logo
[16:11] <NisargS> does firefox have to open fully maximized in ubuntu 11.04. even if you resize and close it, it still opens in fully resized mode
[16:11] <Bigvjc> anyone familia with grafitti
[16:11] <LuPo767> ciao
[16:11] <BluesKaj> martian, sudo iwconfig wlan0 up , or whatever your wifi connection is listed as in ifconfig
[16:11] <jordotech> can someone tell me how to add more virtual desktops to the 4 that ship with natty?
[16:11] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:11] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:11] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:11] <FloodBot1> Zmon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:11] <solovoy> hi
[16:11] <NisargS> does firefox have to open fully maximized in ubuntu 11.04. even if you resize and close it, it still opens in fully resized mode
[16:11] <Bigvjc> draw the letters to type
[16:11] <usr13> acidflash: you can make a compressed image.     gzip < /dev/sda > mybackup.img.gz
[16:12] <solovoy> what are the best drivers for an ati 5770, i have ubuntu 11.04 x64
[16:12] <martian> BluesKaj: well that's just the thing. iwconfig reports no iw enabled devices
[16:12] <bitplane> Hi, I've just installed 11.04 and none of my packages will authenticate. Am I missing some key or something?
[16:12] <jordotech> NisargS, I hate that too
[16:12] <usr13> acidflash: you can make a compressed image.     gzip < /dev/sda > /mnt/disk/mybackup.img.gz
[16:12] <jordotech> NisargS, have you figured out how to add more virtual desktops to the 4 that ship with 11.04?
[16:12] <arand> takamarou: Did you install a dual-boot? wubi?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> martian, ok try ifconfig in it's place
[16:12] <rumpe1> solovoy, i prefer the open one (radeon), but you can test both, if you like
[16:12] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:12] <Roasted> where are ubuntu wallpapers stored?
[16:12] <NisargS> jordotech: i  think thats a bug, there are quite a few reports too
[16:13] <bitplane> jordotech: see "compiz config settings manager"
[16:13] <bitplane> it's in the general options
[16:13] <martian> BluesKaj: yeah, ifconfig only shows eth0 and lo
[16:13] <NisargS> Zmon: typing in hte sense?
[16:13] <takamarou> arand, yeah, dual boot.  Has Win7 x64 loaded first, then installed 11.04 x64.  Not wubi - use the ISO from ubuntu site
[16:13] <Zmon> huh
[16:13] <BluesKaj> martian, which wifi card ?
[16:13] <Zmon> i cant even type in a text pad
[16:13] <Zmon> or rename files
[16:13] <NisargS> what do exactly mean by prevent from typing? disable the keyboard or ...??
[16:14] <Zmon> it seems disabled
[16:14] <NoXzema> maniakss, I guess XvBA isn't supported at all atm
[16:14] <maniakss> NoXzema, i have HD 4850
[16:14] <keith105> if i mess about with trying to configure bridges and tap interfaces on ubuntu, how can i restore back to default networking config?
[16:14] <martian> BluesKaj: Broadcom BCM4311
[16:14] <arand> takamarou: If ubuntu doesn't boot at all I would assume the bootloader isn't installed properly, use the grub2 guide for reinstalling:
[16:14] <jordotech> bitplane, by 'general options' do you mean system settings?  I can't find anything about virtual desktops in there
[16:14] <arand> !grub2 | takamarou
[16:14] <martian> BluesKaj: when I try reinstalling the driver using ndiswrapper, it says the driver is already installed
[16:14] <LarsTorben> hi
[16:14] <BluesKaj> martian, no need for ndiswrapper with broadcom afaik
[16:14] <takamarou> arand, I've been around the block wit this about 10 times in the past week.  That guide is useless for me :/
[16:14] <solovoy> thanks rumpe1 , I installed fglrx from this ppa: ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[16:15] <bitplane> jordotech, no it's in the compiz config settings. I can't talk you through it because my software center is screwed at the moment
[16:15] <BluesKaj> !bcm | martian
[16:15] <KM0201> martian: the STA or restricted b43 driver should work fine w/ that device.... is it one of the lp-phy's?
[16:15] <jordotech> thanks for the directions bitplane , this helps
[16:15] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:15] <Zmon> i cant even type in a text pad
[16:15] <Zmon> it seems disabled
[16:15] <Zmon> or rename files
[16:15] <FloodBot1> Zmon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <NoXzema> maniakss, I have 5750 myself :d
[16:15] <KM0201> !broadcom | martian
[16:15] <rumpe1> solovoy, uh... ppa... kinda risky.
[16:15] <martian> BluesKaj: yeah, I recall reading that somewhere, but for some reason it just wasnt't working. KM0201 lp-phy? I'm not familiar with that
[16:15] <schure> messages?
[16:16] <studentz> Aceking would you mind to post results of ls (hd0,5)/boot/grub  ls (hd0,6)/boot/grub  (both) again
[16:16] <maniakss> NoXzema, Wikipedia says it should run from HD 4xxx
[16:16] <arand> takamarou: So nothing happens when you "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda" (or similar)?
[16:16] <martian> KM0201: readin' up. Thanks.
[16:16] <usr13> acidflash: And then to uncompress it back on to the drive:  gzip -d /media/disk/mybackup.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sda (This being done from a LiveCD.)
[16:16] <KM0201> martian: open up a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, hit enter... find you wireless device, and see if it says "4311-lp-phy" or something like that
[16:16] <bitplane> Zmon: sounds like your window decorator has crashed
[16:16] <Zmon> how i fix
[16:16] <NoXzema> maniakss, it's a problem with ubuntu
[16:16] <martian> KM0201: ahh, no it is not.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> martian, KM0201 has the right URL for help with tour wifi card , that should work
[16:16] <KM0201> martian: ok..
[16:16] <bitplane> Zmon: mess with all the settings in compiz config settings manager
[16:16] <takamarou> arand, I get some errors..  Gosh, wish I had written them down.  Let me re-run that tutorial and I'll let you know
[16:17] <maniakss> NoXzema, fglrx-driver <- maybe we should check some PPA's for check this
[16:17] <NoXzema> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1723339
[16:17] <NoXzema> It's apparently been broken since last december
[16:17] <usr13> acidflash: As you see, there are a number of   ways to backup your data for a project like this. (And there are others, you can back it up via ssh to another PC's drive or another PC's USB drive on your network.
[16:17] <bitplane> this room is too busy, I'm out
[16:17] <robin0800> takamarou, all you need to do is to be able to run sudo update-grub from a ubuntu terminal
[16:18] <KM0201> martian: looks like the 4311, shoud work w/ either the STA, or the B43 firmware/driver... i would try the sta driver first
[16:18] <martian> KM0201: I'll give it another go. So I just want to remove the entry from the modprobe blacklist that I put in when installing the win32 driver, right?
[16:18] <maniakss> NoXzema, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1723339 <- exactly this same, shit;/
[16:19] <KM0201> martian: that would probably be a good idea
[16:19] <AceKing> studentz, that has a huge output, and there is no way to copy and paste
[16:19] <hidnshadows> Can anyone private message me about fixing my wifi? I input the right password, and it fails no matter what network I use. Im on my iphone, so i have s tiny screen
[16:20] <studentz> AceKing use Pastebin
[16:20] <takamarou> arand, hm.  No errors this time.  let's try a reboot
[16:21] <BluesKaj> !iphone | hidnshadows
[16:21] <mrkris> trying to get php 5.2+ fpm installed on Natty. I can backport to 5.2 from Karmic, but I need fpm, which apparently is only availabe as a patch in 5.2, but built into 5.3
[16:21] <takamarou> arand, I don't know what you did, but somehow you convinced my grub menu to finally appear!  thank you!
[16:21] <keith105> is to easy to restore default network config if i break networking messing about with tap0 and bridging interfaces?
[16:22] <hidnshadows> Blueskaj, not even close. The problem is on Lucid, im chatting because my iphone gets internet. How do I fix my wifi? I talk to people on an online chatroom on my laptop, with internet I dont have...
[16:22] <KM0201> keith105: i would think there's a way to backup/restore your network configuration... but i'm not sure how.
[16:23] <AceKing> studentz, There is no way to copy from in the grub terminal is there?  but ls (hd0,6)/boot/grub says unknown filesystem
[16:23] <NoXzema> maniakss, I figured out the problem.
[16:23] <jrsdead> hey could someone point me to a guide for doing a netinstall to a machine with no cddrive or floppy from a mac?
[16:23] <keith105> KM0201: np, i THINK it's just a matter of backing up /etc/networking/interfaces but maybe someone else can confirm before i go borking things? :)
[16:23] <Roasted> Has anybody noticed the menu in Unity 2D to be as slow/slower than Unity 3D?
[16:23] <NoXzema> Apparently, some time ago, the ATI driver was in a package called fglrx-driver which is no longer available.
[16:23] <KM0201> keith105: probably a good idea.. :)..
[16:23] <kevin___> what is the command for creating tar.gz file?
[16:24] <jrib> kevin___: tar cf
[16:24] <arand> takamarou: Glad to help
[16:24] <maniakss> NoXzema, i propably found how to resolve this : https://launchpad.net/~rexbron/+archive/bugfixes he fixed this bug
[16:24] <jrib> kevin___: tar czf  if you want it gzipped.  See « man tar », it has examples
[16:25] <BluesKaj> hidnshadows, I have no idea about Iphones ...just invoked the bot in case those tutorials might help
[16:25] <studentz> AceKing  ok There is another kernel number different from 2.6.32-25?
[16:25] <DirtyDawg> k, i'm uninstalling 11.04 and putting in 10.04
[16:26] <hidnshadows> Can anyone help with a wifi problem with Lucid? Wired works fine, it just rejects the proper password every time for wireless. Please PM, I have a tiny screen and could easily miss any messages
[16:26] <NoXzema> sweet...
[16:26] <AceKing> studentz, how can I find out?
[16:26] <studentz> AceKing ls (hd0,5)/boot/grub
[16:27] <tgm4883> when reporting a bug that already has a bug report and is already marked as fix released, is it better to add to that bug report or open a new bug?
[16:28] <AceKing> studentz, It doesn't say. It just gives me a bunch of stuff with .mod extension
[16:28] <NoXzema> I think I'll just wait till it gets into the mianstream repo
[16:28] <atma_> will ubuntu gnome run on a laptop with 2.66 Ghz amd 1 GB RAM?
[16:28] <atma_> run = run smoothly
[16:28] <acnot> aYes
[16:28] <hidnshadows> Atma_ it should, just be easy with GIMP
[16:28] <studentz> AceKing sorry ls (hd0,5)/boot/
[16:29] <atma_> ok
[16:29] <dea> j
[16:29] <usr13> adante: sudo fdisk -l
[16:30] <AceKing> studentz, No, just that version
[16:30] <usr13> adante: Sorry that was for someone else
[16:30] <keith105> hidnshadows: Pm sent
[16:30] <AceKing> studentz, 2.6.32-25
[16:30] <wcrucius> anyone familiar with re-configuring pm-utils?  I want laptop-mode (for disk cache flushes) even when on AC power
[16:31] <robin0800> Roasted, have you got metacity composting turned on?
[16:31] <Roasted> robin0800, I'm not quite sure. I assume that would make a difference.
[16:32] <studentz> AceKing something like vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic  exist
[16:33] <AceKing> studentz, vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic-pae exists
[16:33] <robin0800> Roasted, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/ubuntu-unity-2d-tweaking-tool-lets-you-adjust-the-launcher-dash-enable-compositing/
[16:33] <Roasted> thanks robin!
[16:34] <Roasted> robin0800, *
[16:35] <studentz> AceKing try this order http://pastebin.com/72U60LvW
[16:35] <Roasted> Where in Firefox/Ubuntu are icons stored that attach to web site links? I have a bookmark to my work web site and the logo I'd like to put on one of our projects. Where can I dig it up at?
[16:38] <RacerXFD> Hey, I need help with installing 11.04
[16:38] <RacerXFD> I can't log in.
[16:39] <usr13> RacerXFD: So you finished the install and can not login?
[16:39] <RacerXFD> Anyone?
[16:39] <compdoc> you get a black screen?
[16:40] <usr13> RacerXFD: Did you forget your password?
[16:40] <DirtyDawg> i do in 11.04 but the previous version of it in the menu works fine?
[16:40] <DirtyDawg> black screen that is
[16:40] <compdoc> looks like his network connection is one way only
[16:41] <en1gma> http://img88.imageshack.us/i/dsc06216x.jpg/   that isnt grub2 is it?
[16:41] <tensorpudding> en1gma: that's grub 2
[16:41] <AceKing> studentz, It's still doing the same thing. I don't mind starting over, but I wanted to save certain files like the .mozilla folder and .thunderbird folder but they show locks on them. I used sudo nautilus to access the files, but I'm afraid that once I copy them, they wont be able to be accessed
[16:41] <en1gma> im running ubuntu 11.04 i386 desktop and did a custom install to my usb flash drive
[16:41] <alpha_> hi, i have problem with new ubuntu 11.04, i have correctly burn CD with os, but ubu doesnt work with Live and before instalation (when is loading it crashing with black or purple screen)
[16:41] <tensorpudding> en1gma: grub 2 versions are actually 1.x
[16:42] <en1gma> it savs grub 1.99 i thought
[16:42] <en1gma> ahhh ok
[16:42] <studentz> AceKing You can boot from a live CD and copy to thumbdrive
[16:42] <en1gma> can someone tell me why when i select the generic kernel it dont load /boot off of /dev/sda2 but when i select recovery mode kernel it does
[16:42] <usr13> en1gma: Yes that is grub2
[16:42] <studentz> AceKing did you encrypted any directory?
[16:42] <martian> KM0201: seems like b43 was the way to go. Thanks for your help!
[16:42] <tensorpudding> en1gma: it's an annoying confusion, i think grub 2 is a name that people gave to it to make it distinctive from the old grub, which is called grub legacy, not grub 1
[16:42] <en1gma> http://imageshack.us/f/641/dsc06217e.jpg/
[16:43] <en1gma> yea i thought when i chose custom install it installed the old grub
[16:43] <en1gma> :)
[16:43] <AceKing> studentz, I can, but some of the folders are showing that they are locked. Including pictures etc. I do not have this drive encrypted
[16:43] <[ARC]> AceKing
[16:43] <[ARC]> do not worry
[16:43] <[ARC]> I have formated lots of times
[16:43] <[ARC]> And mozilla and thunderbird always work
[16:43] <RacerXFD_> Anyone know how to fix /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256
[16:44] <studentz> AceKing yep. Give me a sec
[16:44] <[ARC]> just Save de .thunderbird and .mozilla
[16:44] <AceKing> studentz, OK
[16:44] <[ARC]> and paste them in your new /home/user/.thunderbird
[16:44] <RacerXFD_> I'm having issues with logging in.
[16:44] <AceKing> [ARC], did the folders show they were locked when you booted into LiveCD?
[16:44] <usr13> RacerXFD: What is your problem?
[16:45] <studentz> AceKing yep Look at this link http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html
[16:45] <[ARC]> mm i do not remember but, when I upgraded from 9.10 to 11.04
[16:45] <RacerXFD_>  /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256
[16:45] <RacerXFD_> It's bootlooping
[16:45] <RacerXFD_> Well Login boot loop
[16:45] <[ARC]> I just copied the back up files to .thunderbird
[16:45] <wes__> too much noise, any IRC clients that allow for hiding join/quit notifications????
[16:45] <[ARC]> and is was ready to go
[16:45] <AceKing> studentz, I should use that even thought the drive wasn't encrypted?
[16:46] <KM0201> wes__: i'm not aware of one that doesn't allow that, except maybe pidgin (and even it might)
[16:46] <en1gma> grub is on my ssd /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 = win7 ntfs and /dev/sda2 = /boot ext 3.   my usb 3.0 flash drive = /dev/sdb and / is on /dev/sdb1 and swap = /dev/sdb2....when i boot into grub and select generic kernel i only get flashing cursor in top left corner....if i select generic kernel with recovery mode the kernel actually loads up but it still dont get my usb 3.0 to work
[16:46] <en1gma> can someone help
[16:46] <robin0800> wes__, xchat can with a script
[16:46] <wes__> hmm, so how?  I am IRC noob
[16:46] <studentz> If you mount the HD and you cannot access them, it is b/c they are encrypted.
[16:46] <KM0201> robin0800:  wes__ xchat doesn't need a script to hide join/part
[16:46] <IdleOne> wes__: robin0800 xchat can and does not require a script. right click on the channel name.
[16:47] <en1gma> this is where it actually crashes http://imageshack.us/f/641/dsc06217e.jpg/
[16:47] <usr13> RacerXFD_: Is this a new install?  Or upgrade or...?
[16:47] <[ARC]> I hope I was helpful... now launch is ready bye bye
[16:47] <RacerXFD_> It is new install
[16:47] <RacerXFD_> I wiped my old install
[16:47] <wes__> @robin0800: THANKS!
[16:48] <robin0800> wes__, get also flashey's annoyance script to get rid of the rest of the crud
[16:48] <IdleOne> wes__: "/set irc_conf_mode 1". To apply this setting to all current channels, type "/gui apply".
[16:48] <IdleOne> wes__: that will hide join/part in all channels
[16:49] <KM0201> downloading/installing unecessary scripts, is a good way to cause problems that are often hard to trouble shoot.
[16:49] <usr13> RacerXFD_: I've not seen this type of problem but am looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=917306  ... I don't know if it's all that useful but...
[16:49] <RacerXFD_> usr13: anything helps at this point.
[16:50] <[ARC]> v
[16:50] <flyingmayo> I'm running 10.10.  installed the unity package.  When I log in selecting the "ubuntu netbook edition" I just end up with a standard gnome desktop. Anyone know what I'm missing here?
[16:50] <[ARC]> Did you check in log in opcions
[16:51] <IdleOne> flyingmayo: probably need to enable the unity plugin in compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:51] <[ARC]> that you are not entering something like ubuntu clasic?
[16:51] <zaksoldier> Yeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaa installed the android on iPhone 4
[16:51] <[ARC]> zak
[16:51] <IdleOne> !ot | zaksoldier
[16:51] <flyingmayo> IdleOne: thx, trying that now
[16:52] <zaksoldier> Huh!!!
[16:52] <zaksoldier> I think ubottu is a bot
[16:52] <Calinou> he is.
[16:52] <Calinou> u-BOT-u
[16:53] <Calinou> tu*
[16:53] <IdleOne> zaksoldier: it is but it is still right about your off topicness
[16:54] <zaksoldier> What a smart bot!
[16:54] <Antilect> http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plattityd
[16:54] <Antilect> Wrong chan sorry
[16:55] <wes__> one last time, in case an answer flew by before:
[16:55] <wes__> anyone know how to reconfigure pm-utils (on Natty) to stay in laptop-mode (10 minute disk cache flush) even when on AC?
[16:55] <usr13> RacerXFD_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554172
[16:56] <itilious> is it unsafe to add a user to the www-data group to be able to write to the /var/www directory?
[16:56] <zaksoldier> Huh!!! Now he is not bot
[16:57] <DW-10297> Whenever Ubuntu 11.04 boots up on my system it just sits at a "cursor" I have to hit ctrl-f1 to get the shell.. is there some kind of setting I need to change to make it work correctly?
[16:57] <itilious> i've ready many forum postings that say this is a solution to FTP into apache html folder,,, but others say this is a big security risk,, anyone have any tips for me?
[16:57] <yadira> guys i plug a TB portable to my pc and nothing happens,,is formated as NFTS
[16:58] <NoXzema> If I send data through my local host, it transfers data at a crawling rate of about 2 kB a second.
[16:59] <robin0800> yadira, nautilus should show it but until you click on it it wont be loaded
[16:59] <NoXzema> Anyone know wtf is up with that?
[16:59] <itilious> is it not recommended for a n00b to linux to be setting up ftp access to live webserver on ubuntu 10.04 machine?
[17:00] <NoXzema> itilious, why do you suggest that?
[17:00] <yadira> robin0800, it shows me a Diskette..in /media is not there
[17:01] <itilious> NoXzema, because i've been searching for days and can't find a straight forward answer for the safe way to setup permissions for the ftp user
[17:01] <AceKing> studentz, I want to thank you for all your help today. It's very much appreciated!
[17:01] <itilious> either there's no replies for the seamingly less secure methods, or rarely some one says its not safe to use the method suggested
[17:02] <NoXzema> itilious, if you want security, just setup an SSH server.
[17:02] <studentz> AceKing Np. I'm trying to understand why we couldn't do it.
[17:02] <robin0800> yadira, you can add a folder to media to allow it to mount
[17:02] <itilious> NoXzema, I have this setup and use it and love it,,, i can't seem to figure out how to safely give the access to the /var/www folder
[17:03] <itilious> NoXzema, is it ok to add my main "admin" user account to the "www-data" group?
[17:03] <itilious> it seems this would be unsafe because it seems i'm giving admin control to the web server which is open to internet
[17:03] <en1gma> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/dsc06221j.jpg/
[17:04] <AceKing> studentz, for some reason I can't boot into LiveCD from my USB drive. I am going to load 10.10 on there anyway so I have an easier time getting around
[17:04] <NoXzema> itilious, what software are you using exactly?
[17:04] <eitch0000> hi guys. How is it, that eclipse has an application menu (no global menu) but applications which I write in Eclipse and start do not? Is this also some blacklist as with the panels? My application is Eclipse based
[17:04] <en1gma> was i supposed to highlight the recovery mode kernel and press 'e' on that one too
[17:04] <itilious> NoXzema, i'e tried filezilla ftp using ssh option,,, and the "connect to server" option built into ubuntu by default
[17:05] <Snicers-Work2> Unity doesn't work on Virtual Box, is this common?
[17:05] <itilious> both give me permission denied errors when i try to edit
[17:05] <ric000> Snicers-Work2, yes it is
[17:05] <IdleOne> Snicers-Work2: unity requires hardware acceleration
[17:05] <ric000> due to lack of 3D support
[17:05] <neo3> Has anybody monitor with native resolution 1680x1050_60?
[17:05] <Snicers-Work2> ric000, Are they planning a fix?
[17:05] <itilious> NoXzema, i'm using apache 2 for webserver if that was the question to the software,,, not the file transfer client if thats what you were asking
[17:05] <ric000> doubt it will be with us in the near future.
[17:06] <NoXzema> itilious, I'm asking about what FTP server.
[17:06] <Snicers-Work2> lame
[17:06] <ric000> heh
[17:06] <studentz> AceKing good luck.
[17:06] <yadira> robin0800, i can get into the device,,how can i add folder to device so i can mount ?
[17:06] <Psychobudgie> neo3, I have
[17:06] <itilious> NoXzema, vsftp
[17:06] <ric000> Has anybody had an issue with Oracle-xe service not starting in Ubuntu UNLESS connected to the internet?
[17:07] <usr13> itilious: Best to just set up users for each account and then symlink the folder you want to serve to the /var/www folder.
[17:07] <AceKing> studentz, Thank you again!
[17:07] <Psychobudgie> neo3, using a Dell E207WFP
[17:07] <neo3> Psychobudgie: hold for a second, i will check
[17:07] <usr13> itilious: httpd.conf by default has FollwoSymlink  enabled
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> Snicers-Work2:  use the unity-2d package
[17:08] <robin0800> yadira, the easy way is to instal nautilus-gksu then log out and back in
[17:08] <ric000> Has anybody had an issue with Oracle-xe service not starting in Ubuntu UNLESS connected to the internet?
[17:08] <NoXzema> So, I'm confused. vsftp uses local users for user authentication (like most). Whatever user you want to be able to access /www/var (or whatever), can you not just setup up his permissions to be able to do so?
[17:08] <neo3> Psychobudgie: have edid.bin file for this monitor?
[17:08] <usr13> itilious: So you can do -l /home/itilious/html /var/www/My-WebSite
[17:09] <sss314> Is shrinking the root partition with a LiveCD safe?
[17:09] <usr13> itilious: So you can do ln -s /home/itilious/html /var/www/My-WebSite
[17:09] <usr13> (first one was typo)
[17:09] <neo3> Psychobudgie: can you generate this file for me using nvidia X Server?
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> sss314:  when in doubtg. make backups. I think it can work. jot down the UUID befor and  take note of it after the resize. ive heard cases where the uuid changes for some reason. this can goof things up
[17:10] <neo3> Psychobudgie: i can tell how, will you help me?
[17:10] <itilious> usr13, i instantly did a search on symlink when you said that and was about to ask if that very command is waht i need :)
[17:10] <usr13> itilious: And then you should see http://localhost/My-WebSite
[17:10] <tramm> Please give me a hint how to hide menu items (not delete) in gnome menu without using GUI menu editor. I see that there's a desktop file field "Hidden=true", but alacarte menu editor seems to hide menu items differently. Any ideas where to look? I mean what files and where? Or some clear documentation?
[17:10] <itilious> usr13, i've been looking for this forever and just simply couldnt find out the search terms i needed to find the solution, thanks so much:)
[17:10] <usr13> itilious: np
[17:10] <sss314> Dr_Willis, How do I jot down the UUID?
[17:10] <Psychobudgie> neo3, why do you need an edid.bin file?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> tramm: alacarts adds some extra files in the users home. I think they get merged/override the system .desktop files
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> !uuid
[17:12] <itilious> usr13, is this option permanent tho?
[17:12] <neo3> Psychobudgie: my nvidia driver cannot detect EDID info from my LCD, so i must to set up it manualy. Please Nvidia X server Settings, then go to DFP-0 and push "Acquire EDID..."
[17:12] <AntonioBlob> hi, where is the errnos.h file?
[17:12] <yadira> robin0800, gksu-nautilus didnt doit for me buddy
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> !find errnos.h
[17:13] <Psychobudgie> neo3 : you are assuming I'm using an nvidia gpu
[17:13] <Harith> hi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8972359&postcount=3 ... where to create this file "wm.sh" and how?
[17:13] <XChats> good day, is it possible to start the gnome-terminal into byobu? tnx
[17:13] <xangua> yadira: gksu nautilus , not gksu-nautilus
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> hmm. odd
[17:13] <sipior> AntonioBlob: you mean errno.h, i think.
[17:13] <AntonioBlob> it is errnos.h or errno.h
[17:13] <AntonioBlob> yes errno.h
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> !find errno.h
[17:13] <neo3> Psychobudgie: can you generate edid.bin file?
[17:14] <Psychobudgie> neo3, already have
[17:14] <falserunes> Is anyone else having a problem with X and corrupting pictures
[17:14] <xangua> !anyone | falserunes
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> 'pictures' meaning what exactly?
[17:14] <yadira> yadira, the easy way is to instal nautilus-gksu then log out and back in,,,i installed that buddy,,o y try your suggestion
[17:15] <mikestro> Support channel..eh?
[17:15] <falserunes> well, I set a bg and after adding an icon it kindof corrupts behind it
[17:15] <neo3> Psychobudgie: can you send email? transfer don't work
[17:15] <johnm> rename u1201 purple_fb
[17:15] <johnm> save
[17:15] <soyo> So here is something interesting... I can sudo, but have an authentication failure with the same password trying to su (I installed the OS on here though it should be the same passwd)
[17:15] <Psychobudgie> neo3, gimme a sec
[17:15] <falserunes> almost like bad resolution, but in patches
[17:15] <mikestro> hey, I need help with my webcam, can anybody help me out?
[17:16] <itilious> usr13, i ran the command but nothign is showing up in the folder
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  su ing to what account. root by default on ubuntu has no password so you cant 'su' to root
[17:16] <xangua> !anyone | mikestro
[17:16] <soyo> Dr_Willis: I just typed su with nothing else
[17:16] <mikestro> ok ubottu
[17:17] <whoever> no video , no boot with 11.04. anyone else experience this ? the only thing i can come up with is that there is a prob with the nouveau driver
[17:17] <robin0800> yadira, did you install nautilus-gksu?
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  su dont work by default to root. use sudo to get root access.
[17:17] <mikestro> Does anybody here have any success getting video and audio capture from the webcam on a Dell Inspiron Mini 1012?
[17:18] <neo3> Psychobudgie: can you retry transfer?
[17:18] <ric000> soyo, you also change su password
[17:18] <ric000> using sudo passwd su
[17:18] <gururur> hello
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> thers no need to set the root password.
[17:18] <Roasted> Has anybody else found Unity 2D to be really slow compared to 3D when navigating the menus? I seen to have some odd momentum scrolling in the 2D menu that makes it SLOW, whereas in 3D I don't have it. It almost makes 3D... faster...
[17:18] <gururur> i need help with a wireless issue in ubuntu
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> !wireless
[17:19] <ric000> Dr_Willis, why don't you suggest changing the su password?
[17:19] <Rziz> sudo -i also gives you a root shell
[17:19] <soyo> Dr_Willis: Well if I don't set the root passwd how can I cd into a directory owned by another user?
[17:19] <falserunes> you have to chown that folder
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> ric000:  because its not needed.. and not reccomended by the channel
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> ric000:  its not changeing the 'su' password.. its creatimng a 'root' user password.
[17:19] <usr13> itilious: I was using hypothetical values. You need to put your own dir names in those places.  Right?  Show me the command you used...
[17:19] <gururur> why do you have to go through all the trouble to get wireless working in ubuntu?
[17:20] <falserunes> sudo chown user folder right
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> soyo:   you an use 'sudo -i' to get a root shell if needed
[17:20] <Rziz> absolutely no need to chown anything, just sudo -i
[17:20] <gururur> has anything changing from 10.10 to 11.04 as far as wireless goes?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  if the user has the correct permissions on their directories. you can cd into the,
[17:20] <ric000> Dr_Willis: and what is the risk of creating a 'root' user password?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | soyo
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[17:20] <falserunes> yeah that's right
[17:20] <Rziz> it's undesireable to mess with ownerships if not needed, imo
[17:20] <soyo> Dr_Willis: that could work. Thanks and ric00 too
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> security is all about layers and  the proper secure 'process' to do things. :)
[17:21] <Rziz> does ubuntu have xdg-su anyway?
[17:21] <ric000> even in a home environment?
[17:21] <mikestro> Does anybody here have any idea getting video and audio capture from the webcam on a Dell Inspiron Mini 1012 to work?
[17:21] <B4ckBOneee> Hi, im trapped in a endless: v4l-dvb-dkms is being setup. How can i get rid of dkms?
[17:21] <Rziz> or something like xdg-sudo , i mean
[17:21] <subq> anyone know the recommended way to disable a service on bootup now? instead of update-rc.d disable ?
[17:22] <subq> seems to be all sorts of, you can do it this way and that way, but looking for the recommended way...perhaps a "service" command?
[17:22] <atomicspin> I upgraded to Natty and now the backlight on my laptop doesn't work.
[17:22] <atomicspin> Works just fine in BIOS
[17:23] <mikestro> ..Anybody?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> subq:  one way . rename the services /etc/init/whatever.conf to /etc/init/whatvever.DONTRUN (or similer)
[17:23] <Rziz> probably an acpi problem
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> subq:  ive not noticed any command line tools (or gui tools) to manage the upstart services.  ive not looked lately for one..
[17:24] <Snicers-Work2> Is there a good set of text or video tutorials that outlines how to control permissions automatically (e.g. when a user creates a file in a certain folder, that file is set under a specific username and group with specific XXX permissions?)
[17:24] <robin0800> subq, you can stop and start services but where you put it to be permanent I don't know
[17:24] <Snicers-Work2> I am tired of manually changing all my permissions.
[17:24] <subq> yes start/stop all that easy
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> Snicers-Work2:  I rarely ever need to even touch them. :)
[17:24] <victorhugo289> Hi, anyone else having problems with this program Celestia? All the fonts are unreadable here in Ubuntu 11.04
[17:24] <subq> i suppose i could just use the old method of update-rc.d disable
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> subq:  start/stop is not perment. just the correct way to start/stop services these days
[17:25] <subq> Dr_Willis: right
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> subq:  update-rc.d will NOT work with upstart managed services or at least it used to not work
[17:25] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: Access Control Lists is how you do what you want to do, but: why do you want to do that exactly?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> IIts possible some of the sysv tools ahve been updated to work with Upstart.
[17:25] <victorhugo289> I had the same problem with Google Earth but it fixed itself after reinstaling.
[17:25] <mikestro> I quite enjoy bashing my head on my keyboard.
[17:25] <subq> i know they pushing ppl away from sysv stuff, a lot of thing sstill use it though
[17:25] <NoXzema> Yo, I'm searching for a feature filled editor, mainly one meant for software development. I don't mind vim or emacs but I'd rather not have to learn all the keybinds.
[17:25] <victorhugo289> Anyone know what the issue could be?
[17:26] <subq> but give me a update-rc.d disable equivalent command :)
[17:26] <Snicers-Work2> jrib, I will have multiple users on FTP, currently when they create files I want everyone to have read access and they don't.
[17:26] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: that's something you'd change in your ftpd's configuration
[17:26] <Snicers-Work2> jrib, what about for ssh?
[17:26] <Snicers-Work2> for example, when someone touches a file to create it?
[17:27] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: umask controls permissions on new files but if you want it to vary depending on directories, then you need to use Access Control Lists
[17:28] <Snicers-Work2> jrib, But if I just want it to very on users I use umask?
[17:28] <mikestro> Is this really the support channel?
[17:28] <soyo> Is there a way to see the history or is there a log of from where a user deleted or created a file? I have people from MS computers on the network asking me why files are disappearing and reappearing... (Could be sync programs maybe?)
[17:28] <sipior> mikestro: it is.
[17:28] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: sure.
[17:28] <sipior> mikestro: something we can help you with?
[17:28] <falserunes> mikestro: do you have cheese installed?
[17:29] <Snicers-Work2> jrib, Thank you very much, I will study all of those options.
[17:29] <mikestro> Yes, but video capture is broken.
[17:29] <falserunes> how did you install cheese?
[17:29] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: setfacl and getfacl man pages for learning about access control lists (note you need to add "acl" to your mount options in fstab)
[17:29] <mikestro> From the software centre
[17:29] <soyo> I only have one username for everyone but can I tell if they created or deleted the folder from a certain IP?
[17:29] <Xriveryk>  /join #ubuntu-es
[17:29] <sipior> soyo: well there's a disaster waiting to happen.
[17:30] <falserunes> but your webcam can see you
[17:30] <soyo> sipior: Yes I know..
[17:30] <mikestro> Cheese detects and gives output and takes photos fine, just the video capture doesn't work.
[17:31] <usr13> itilious: It will also take admin privileges to symlink into /var/www so you will need to preface the command with sudo
[17:31] <usr13> (Left that part out)
[17:31] <sipior> soyo: you could match up the file's creation time with the wtmp entries, but that obviously breaks down with multiple logins.
[17:31] <falserunes> mikestro:lookup video for linux
[17:32] <soyo> What is wtmp?
[17:32] <XChats> i have a gpg error during my update im on lucid the error was this :GPG error: http://mirrors.us.kernel.org lucid-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:32] <sipior> soyo: try "last" at a terminal
[17:32] <XChats> how shoudl i fix this?
[17:32] <DrShoggoth> I have two natty installs on different hardware, and they both like to crash when I unlock them from the screensaver
[17:32] <DrShoggoth> is this a known issue?
[17:33] <sipior> DrShoggoth: both running the same screensaver?
[17:33] <mikestro> falserunes: ok
[17:33] <falserunes> is that kool?
[17:33] <usr13> DrShoggoth: Turn off screensaver
[17:33] <yadira> robin0800,  yes i install nautilus-gksu
[17:33] <soyo> sipior: looks like pts/2 would be the culprit..
[17:34] <usr13> DrShoggoth: Or trun off lock feature.
[17:34] <mikestro> I guess...
[17:34] <whitekidney> Hi there, ubuntu won't run a binary script, any idea why? http://pastebin.com/TnwihJwB
[17:34] <DrShoggoth> no, they are not
[17:34] <DrShoggoth> one of them runs sky tenticles, and the other is just blank screen
[17:34] <sipior> whitekidney: try prefixing that with "./"
[17:34] <soyo> Well could have been tty10 too..
[17:34] <tramm> Dr_Willis: Thanks for the hint, I think I found my hidden menus under ~/.local/share/applications and especially ~/.config/menus...
[17:34] <randomuser> soyo, adduser {bob,joe,mary,george}
[17:34] <usr13> DrShoggoth: Or trun off lock feature.
[17:35] <falserunes> mikestro: I paid $80 for a retail webcam and can't use it to it's potential
[17:35] <sipior> whitekidney: ("." is not in your PATH by default and design)
[17:35] <DrShoggoth> usr13, are you trolling?
[17:35] <usr13> DrShoggoth: No.  Are you?
[17:35] <soyo> randomuser: ironic with your nick too ;)
[17:35] <un_> hey que ta, chicos es que tengo problemas con mi pc, que tiene nvidia 310M y desde la version pasada de ubuntu tengo problemas apra isntalar compiz, alguna recomendacion?
[17:36] <ayecee> !es | un_
[17:36] <mikestro> falserunes: So the answer is that my webcam will never get proper video for the time being?
[17:36] <robin0800> yadira, then right click on the folder
[17:36] <sipior> DrShoggoth: i guess the tentacles were a given, considering your nick :-) do both machines lock up after a similar period of time?
[17:36] <randomuser> soyo, thanks. but seriously, its not like your running win95 here. Administer your system properly.
[17:36] <falserunes> un_: compis is already installed
[17:36] <xxxxxxxx> clear
[17:36] <mah454> where is youtube cache in ubuntu-11.04 (FireFox Browser)
[17:36] <pigiman1> Hey, how can I connect to my ubuntu server that runs Jira with Tomcat from remote connection on port 8080 ?
[17:37] <mah454> where is youtube video cache in ubuntu-11.04 (FireFox Browser)
[17:37] <enav> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD mORNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:37] <falserunes> not saying that, just my specific model
[17:37] <oCean> pigiman1: add :8080 in the url
[17:37] <falserunes> most probably a bug in cheese
[17:38] <pigiman1> thats what I did
[17:38] <pigiman1> on localhost:8080 in my Ubuntu it works
[17:38] <shashankcoep> suggest nokia pc suite for ubuntu..
[17:38] <pigiman1> from remote it doesnt
[17:38] <saimanoj> i need help any one please help me
[17:38] <soyo> randomuser: I know I should, just hard to get everyone else to play along.. May have to put my foot down though and just be like too bad.
[17:38] <ikonia> soyo: gnokii
[17:38] <mikestro> mmk, well all I have is the integrated camera and when I record video using guvcview the audio and video fall out of sync.
[17:39] <usr13> saimanoj: What is your problem?
[17:39] <randomuser> soyo, if you give them a username and password that aren't in /etc/sudoers, they dont hace a choice
[17:39] <xiaoy> Which is the best ssh/scp graphical client, Filezilla?
[17:39] <ric000> Has anybody had an issue with Oracle-xe service not starting in Ubuntu UNLESS connected to the internet?
[17:39] <falserunes> yeah, I think v4l is like a universal driver that works great once you get it installed
[17:39] <Jeff91> So for some reason apt-get keeps freezing on me when it gets to "unpacking replacement"
[17:39] <un_> yes, but alawys to screen after you install it and py pc crashes
[17:39] <falserunes> been a while since I messed with it though
[17:39] <soyo> randomuser: oh I would never give them sudo
[17:39] <oCean> pigiman1: there is an #atlassian channel, maybe they know
[17:39] <pigiman1> will check ,thanks
[17:40] <un_> yes, but always to the screen after you install it and my pc crashes
[17:40] <saimanoj> usr13: I have installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu 11.04 Natty and i am facing many problems with it.
[17:40] <randomuser> soyo, either way, each person has to remember one username and password. What difference does it make if they are the only one to use that?
[17:40] <shashankcoep> sorry i disconnected and miss the replies
[17:40] <usr13> saimanoj: Start with one...
[17:40] <shashankcoep> can anyone suggest nokia pc suite for ubuntu..
[17:40] <mikestro> v4l should already be installed, how do I check?
[17:40] <saimanoj> usr13: My videos are displaying in different colours
[17:41] <saimanoj> like blue for skin colour etc.
[17:41] <coz_>   hey all
[17:41] <mah454> where is youtube video cache in ubuntu-11.04 (FireFox Browser)
[17:41] <usr13> saimanoj: What video card is it?
[17:41] <coz_> mah454,   /tmp
[17:41] <usr13> saimanoj: lspci | pastebinit
[17:41] <falserunes> check your package manager
[17:41] <robin0800> shashankcoep, there's one for windows don't know if it works in wine though
[17:42] <falserunes> also try installing dv4l
[17:42] <un_> but i have installed ubuntu 11.04 and the problem continous
[17:42] <mah454> coz_ in ubuntu-11.04 not in /tmp . i can not find file !
[17:42] <usr13> saimanoj: ... and send resulting URL.
[17:42] <coz_> mah454,  not sure then
[17:42] <soyo> randomuser: Good point.
[17:42] <filmedgnu> hi
[17:43] <shashankcoep> thank you all
[17:43] <randomuser> soyo, then you set up a group for everyone, create a /groupfiles, etc
[17:43] <saimanoj> I am using Nvidia Graphic card. I did not face this problem previously. I used ubuntu 10.10 for many months and also 11.04 for sufficient time. But never faced this problem
[17:43] <malik> hi all,
[17:44] <phoenixsampras> HELP, what alternatives with UBUNTU, really I tried to use the unity stuff, but is UNUSABLE, is there any last distribution that could be good as Ubuntu ?
[17:44] <usr13> saimanoj: Are you using proprietary driver?  Or OS driver?
[17:44] <malik> How can i write a shell script to monitor a file so that as soon as there is a change in the file , i can perform an action
[17:44] <oCean> phoenixsampras: other distributions are not on topic here
[17:44] <sipior> malik: have a look at inotify
[17:44] <usr13> saimanoj: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:44] <robin0800> phoenixsampras, what's wrong with classic?
[17:44] <rizzeh> phoenixsampras, u can switch to gnome with ubuntu at login screen
[17:45] <sipior> malik: install the "inotify-tools" package for some starting points.
[17:45] <vacho> guys I did something terrible
[17:45] <zizban> Heck I like Unity. I even use Unity 2d
[17:45] <malik> ok sipior , let me have a look , thanks
[17:45] <Slor> trying again - I have Ubuntu 11.04 installed, and I would like to be able to VNC to that machine and have the GDM greeter there to allow me to log in (don't want to attach to existing login sessions).  I have set this up properly with previous releases, but I can't seem to find the magic for 11.04.  Been fiddling with different servers and adding stuff /etc/gdm/Init/Defaul, etc...
[17:45] <vacho> I played around in compiz and I messed up my UI ... how can I get it back?
[17:45] <jrib> malik: you might check out incron (which is like cron for inotify) as well depending on how you want to approach it
[17:45] <usr13> saimanoj: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf  #Tell us, or show is the output.
[17:45] <saimanoj> i installed restricted drivers. did u mean cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:45] <vacho> I messed around in compiz and It messed up my UI ... how can I get it back? can someone please help>?
[17:46] <eeriks> have anyone of you installed drivers for wifi usbś before tho i have someproblem with that now ??
[17:46] <mikestro> falserunes: v4l and dv4l are installed
[17:46] <robin0800> vacho, in compiz preferences you can set them back to defaults
[17:46] <usr13> saimanoj: Open a terminal, type  ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   hit enter, tell us what it says.
[17:46] <vacho> robin0800, do you know exacly where? I think I tried that but it did not work.
[17:46] <un_> nothing
[17:46] <falserunes> see if you can tweak some settings with v4l2ucp
[17:47] <saimanoj> usr13: thanks for ur help. it shows the same file name.
[17:47] <falserunes> you might have to install it too
[17:47] <saimanoj>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[17:47] <robin0800> vacho, yes in ccsm preferences
[17:47] <usr13> saimanoj:   suod rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:47] <usr13> saimanoj: And then log out and back in again.
[17:47] <vacho> hmm, let me try.
[17:47] <mikestro> ok
[17:47] <vacho> i had two options there right, unity and default
[17:47] <saimanoj> okay. I will back again. Once again thanks for your response.
[17:48] <usr13> np
[17:48] <un_> np
[17:48] <sjh1412> anyone got a some suggestions for some simple server monitoring software? after something that combines network/disk io, cpu load, ideally a way to dig into bandwidth / GET path like jnettop,
[17:49] <sjh1412> but something a lot smaller than say nagios!
[17:49] <rizzeh> sjh1412, then u won't like webmin :D
[17:49] <mikestro> falserunes: erm..this is embarassing..but my screen is to small to view the entire v4l2ucp window :|
[17:50] <robin0800> vacho, in the preferences screen under profile select unity and then reset to defaults
[17:50] <sjh1412> rizzeh, that project is still alive? jeebus...
[17:50] <malik> well sipior, jrib, i just looked up the inotify and incron. Can i use something that is by default available in a linux installation, actually i have to write a script to be run on different clusters where i can not install any software.
[17:51] <PhoenixSTF> hello, I am having some trouble with filezilla tranfering special chars..... it doesnt transfer them
[17:51] <tavish> hi, can anyone tell me possible places where a http proxy can be configured? i configured one somewhere, but i can't find where.
[17:51] <saimanoj> usr13: I did it and it is fine now and i forgot to tell that the problem is occasional. It happens only at some times randomly.
[17:52] <vacho> robin0800, I did that, did not help.
[17:52] <vacho> robin0800, I created a new user account and this new one works fine, is there a settings file I can just copy over to my old account to get it to work>?
[17:52] <usr13> saimanoj: Well, watch it for a while and see...
[17:52] <sipior> malik: well, inotify is available as part of the default kernel, typically, but you'd have to do some coding to make use of it. you might consider building a local copy of the inotify tools in your home directory or the like.
[17:52] <robin0800> vacho, log out and back in
[17:53] <vacho> robin0800, did that too..think the file replace thing will be best?
[17:53] <falserunes> you might have the capture resolution too big, which would probably be part of why it is out of sync
[17:53] <yadira> i format my terabite to xFat i cant see it anyways,,i installed a bounch of ntfs filesystem libraries and anything yet,,any more suggestions ?
[17:54] <Planet_EN> anyone here knows why this command fails?  ack-grep --css --column  "\b[^(tail)]end\b
[17:54] <saimanoj> usr13:One more problem recently is that the absense of the title bar of the Empathy IM when i press Alt+Space key combination is pressed when the Empathy IM window is active.
[17:54] <mang0> !pastebin
[17:54] <mikestro> how do I change the capture resolution?
[17:54] <sipior> Planet_EN: is the unclosed quote intentional?
[17:55] <malik> hmmm, ok  i check it , initially i was thinking of a simple script with a 'watch' on the file size to by monitored but i thought there might be better and more stable ways of doing it.
[17:55] <usr13> saimanoj:  I don't know about empathy.  You might try right clicking on it some place and see if it gives a context menu that might allow you to turn the title bar back on.
[17:55] <rizzeh> sjh1412, iftop? screen it with iotop :)
[17:55] <Planet_EN> sipior: no, sorry copied the command from terminal, there's an ending quote..
[17:55] <bassliner> hi there, so would one still want to use a seperate /boot partition on a todays system? i mean since grub is able to access partitions i could easily just integrate /boot into / and just create and use a / partition and a swap partition. is there a benefit in using a seperate /boot still? thanks.
[17:56] <falserunes> have you killed it yet
[17:56] <saimanoj> This problem started occuring after the change of the some changes in key combinations in ccsm
[17:56] <jrib> malik: you might not need to install anything if you write it in C, idk though
[17:56] <mikestro> v4l2ucp?
[17:56] <robin0800> bassliner, I don't but a seperate home is often suggested
[17:57] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/605787/ Please help me for my boot loader problems!
[17:57] <mang0> click that for more info ^
[17:57] <saimanoj> not only empathy, also USC is behaving the same.
[17:57] <bassliner> robin0800: for what purpose?
[17:57] <rizzeh> bassliner, separate /boot is always a benefit, what if you'll want another 10 other distros installed :D
[17:57] <usr13> bassliner: That is up to the individual.  Personally I do not see a great advantage for separate partition for /boot.  I do see quite a bit of advantage in separt /home partition.
[17:58] <pedro> jav
[17:58] <usr13> *separate
[17:58] <bassliner> rizzeh: well thank you :)
[17:59] <rizzeh> bassliner, /boot is good if you use many distros, upgrade often. on a single OS system it is probably a waste
[17:59] <robin0800> bassliner, for new or re installs and yes I know its not needed these days
[18:00] <francesco_> You wake up to find yourself alone on a broken spaceship headed to a Penal Colony. The ship seems to want you to fix it, but first you need to get out of the room.
[18:00] <usr13> bassliner: Yea, as rizzeh says, if this is an experimental box where you are going to have several different Linux installs, yes, it could come in handy then, maybe... But otherwize not really.
[18:00] <sipior> francesco_: verbose
[18:00] <bassliner> usr13: if i'd really decide to drop the installation it holds i'd probably simply backup ~ and /etc and reinstall tbh...
[18:00] <saimanoj> Alt+Space is one of many key combinations i frequently use. So, every time i press it some window or the other is loosing its title bar.
[18:01] <milan> hello
[18:01] <toddc> grub2 is working for my triple boots very well
[18:01] <txtsd> guys I need serious help
[18:01] <bassliner> usr13: i mean maybe my way of thinking about partitioning is wrong, bad or stupid and i just do it because i'm lazy and used to the way i do, hence i'm asking...
[18:01] <usr13> bassliner: But if you have separate /home, the backup would be only in case you accidentally wipped it.
[18:02] <txtsd> My Ubuntu 11.04 boots up with 92% RAM maxed out
[18:02] <txtsd> Bootup is horrendously slow
[18:02] <bassliner> usr13: hmm. true too...
[18:02] <txtsd> idk how to clear the RAM
[18:02] <bassliner> usr13: yeah i think i want seperate partitions...
[18:02] <saimanoj> usr13:http://imagebin.org/152699 is the screenshot.
[18:02] <bassliner> usr13: thanks.
[18:02] <txtsd> System Monitor says the max RAM used by running processes is about 20MB
[18:02] <sipior> txtsd: and how much ram do you have at the moment?
[18:02] <txtsd> 2.9GB
[18:03] <txtsd> ~3GB
[18:03] <rizzeh> txtsd, run top command in terminal, see whats hogging the ram
[18:03] <txtsd> ok
[18:03] <milan> if anyone hear me type : moron
[18:03] <usr13> bassliner: That's what I usually do, 3 partitions: 1) swap  2) /  3) /home
[18:03] <ThinkT510> milan: you need help?
[18:03] <falserunes> yeah that, was what I was talking about, but it seems as though you are making progress
[18:04] <usr13> saimanoj: Looks ok now.  Right?
[18:04] <rizzeh> usr13, i have several separate disks thyat mount into home directories as video, music, photo
[18:04] <saimanoj> usr13:the videos are okay, but not the title bars, did u see the screenshot above?
[18:04] <txtsd> rizzeh: top 2 are gnome-system-mo and janitord both with %MEM = 0.1
[18:04] <usr13> rizzeh: I use ntfs
[18:04] <falserunes> however, I may not be able to help you, but as you can see, the real helpers are swamped
[18:05] <rizzeh> txtsd, install htop, apt-get install htop, its a bit easier to use tool
[18:05] <bassliner> so what partition should i make a primary one then? just /boot as primary, / and /home as extended partition?
[18:05] <txtsd> ok
[18:05] <usr13> rizzeh: I use nfs   #sorry that was a typo
[18:06] <bassliner> htop is VERY decent.
[18:06] <rizzeh> usr13,  big typo, i thought :D
[18:06] <falserunes> agreed
[18:06] <falserunes> htop is awesome
[18:06] <m1ndvirus> bassliner: Would you say EXTREMELY average?
[18:06] <usr13> rizzeh: In other words, I have some of that type stuff on a nfs share.
[18:06] <m1ndvirus> Or HUGELY mediocre?
[18:06] <saimanoj> usr13: please see this screenshot and understand the intensity of my problem. http://imagebin.org/152699
[18:07] <DDAZZA> I'm running Ubuntu and am experiencing not perfect video playback I have the ATI RV730 and would like to know what driver should I use to get best performance?
[18:07] <m1ndvirus> saimanoj: Not a big deal.
[18:07] <rizzeh> bassliner,  tell us about the PC, how many harddrives, how many other OSes u planning to install?
[18:07] <m1ndvirus> saimanoj: Are you able to type in a terminal?
[18:07] <usr13> rizzeh: On my home LAN I have the YL, mother-in-law, son, grandkids, (several PCs), so plenty of room to use nfs on the LAN
[18:07] <bassliner> rizzeh: quadcore, 8gb ram, just one single 64gb ssd running ubuntu/xubuntu.
[18:07] <saimanoj> yes i am able to type in a terminal.
[18:08] <m1ndvirus> saimanoj: `metacity --replace`
[18:08] <bassliner> rizzeh: will be my primary workstation here at home to get stuff done.
[18:08] <usr13> saimanoj: Im not sure what I'm looking at...?
[18:08] <rizzeh> bassliner, you don't need boot partition then
[18:09] <rizzeh> bassliner, mark / with boot flag
[18:09] <bassliner> so would i want to make as many partitions primary as i could? i know i could make 4 ones, but would that benefit in something? should i just use one primary and all the others extended?
[18:09] <usr13> saimanoj: I really don't see the problem.  Looks all right to me.
[18:09] <rizzeh> bassliner, with small harddrive, i would just go for 2 partitions
[18:10] <bassliner> ok fine
[18:10] <rizzeh> one / and one /home
[18:10] <rizzeh> the / partition doesnt need to be big
[18:10] <ThinkT510> bassliner: if you want more than one OS it is best to put linux in logical partitions because some OS's can only be installed on primary partitions
[18:10] <rizzeh> 10-20Gb
[18:11] <zus> i have an external 1TB hdd that was formated i lost EVERYTHING!!!!!! now it wont even show in my file manager to even begin  download everything again how can i get  it to show up as an option!!!
[18:11] <crazydiamond> Hi. My tty's were suddenly switch by pressing Alt+F1 ... Alt+F7. I need them be switched by Ctrl+Alt+F1 ... Ctrl+Alt+F7. Hwo to do it?
[18:11] <usr13> bassliner: You can allow a couple Gs for swap  15-20G for /  and the rest for /home
[18:12] <mbeierl> zus: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html might be able to help you.
[18:12] <mbeierl> zus: how did it get formatted?
[18:12] <rizzeh> usr13,  you right , forgot about swap,
[18:12] <bassliner> usr13: that was my thoughts exactly. i still couldn't find out if i want to use as many partitions as primary as possible or not...
[18:12] <zus> mbeierl,  i didnt realize which partition i was working on
[18:12] <saimanoj> can you tell me the command again.
[18:13] <usr13> bassliner: Since you are only using 3,  you can just stick with primary.
[18:13] <Mjolnir> is there anyway to install ubuntu without having to burn it to disk?
[18:13] <bassliner> also, does one use an SSD with linux? is s-ata trim important?
[18:13] <JoshDreamland> There is no /boot/grub/menu.lst. How can I change which partition is the default boot?
[18:14] <usr13> Mjolnir: Just burn the ISO into your brain and place your forhead firmly on the keyboard as you boot.....  sorry, couldn't resist.
[18:14] <francesco_> !list
[18:14] <mbeierl> zus: unfortunately formatting or altering the partition table is not reversible, but the majority of data is still there on the disk.  Programs like ddrescue or photorec search for file data patterns and attempt to recreate the original files that way.  it is not a trivial task, however
[18:14] <rizzeh> bassliner, sorry , too poor to try SSD yet :D
[18:14] <ThinkT510> JoshDreamland: it's now grub.cfg not menu.lst
[18:14] <JoshDreamland> Mjolnir: You can copy it to a flash drive
[18:14] <trism> JoshDreamland: change GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub;
[18:14] <usr13> !usb | Mjolnir
[18:15] <JoshDreamland> thanks, trism
[18:15] <bassliner> rizzeh: i just got the old one from a co-worker of mine for free, otherwise i'd be too poor as well. :)
[18:15] <zus> mbeierl,  but its not even an option in the file manager
[18:15] <Polah> is it possible to get rid of the left-side bar in Banshee? The one with Radio and suchlike listed?
[18:15] <Mjolnir> usr13: lol k thanks guys ill check that out
[18:16] <rizzeh> bassliner, http://linuxhcl.com/
[18:16] <DrHalan> hey
[18:16] <DrHalan> is there a stream for the uds?
[18:16] <westxx> I cannot update 11-04
[18:16] <magepsycho_> hi guys
[18:17] <magepsycho_> i just installed chrome
[18:17] <Polah> westxx: a little more information is needed for us to help you. There is a myriad of possible reasons as to why that is.
[18:17] <magepsycho_> now i would like to know how to open that
[18:17] <BlouBlou> westxx: What happens when you try to do it?
[18:17] <magepsycho_> where to get that program to run
[18:17] <BlouBlou> magepsycho_: how did you install it?
[18:18] <Polah> magepsycho: MagePsycho_: Assuming you're on GNOME, Apllications > Internet > Chrome, or you could create a launcher for "chrome" (or so I assume, the program name might be different)
[18:18] <Mjolnir> just wondering on this one, but if i go on my XP and use Daemon can i mount and install ubuntu that way?
[18:18] <trism> DrHalan: there are several streams here: 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-31-generic
[18:18] <trism> DrHalan: sorry, that wasn't it http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
[18:18] <magepsycho_> yes Polah that works
[18:19] <txtsd> rizzeh it's horribly slow due to maxed RAM :(
[18:19] <magepsycho_> so ubuntu itself knows the categories?
[18:19] <magepsycho_> where to put that application
[18:19] <usr13> !wbi | Mjolnir
[18:19] <txtsd> "building dependecy tree list 72%"
[18:19] <mbeierl> zus: that is right.  there might be no partition table left, so it might not be able to be mounted.  that's why ddrescue might be your only option.  is it a removable (usb) drive?
[18:19] <westxx> my update manager unable to initialized package information
[18:19] <coz_> magepsycho_,   yes  it does if you mean installing
[18:19] <rumpe1> Mjolnir, you could install it using wubi
[18:19] <rizzeh> txtsd, did u install htop, what is the top mem usage process?
[18:19] <usr13> !wubi | Mjolnir
[18:19] <txtsd> rizzeh: it's still installing, is what I'm saying :P
[18:20] <Mjolnir> rumpe1: i thought wubi was a watered down version of a distro, is it not?
[18:20] <Polah> Mjolnir: Wubi isn't a proper installation though, it just resides in a folder in the Windows file system and thus requires Windows and its boot loader to run, it isn't independent as far as I'm aware.
[18:20] <mbeierl> zus: more information can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[18:20] <westxx> my update manager unable to initialized package information
[18:20] <DrHalan> @trism: thanks :)
[18:20] <rumpe1> Mjolnir, it's not as fast and not as stable as a "real" install... but for tests or other things its okay
[18:20] <DrHalan> sadly there aren't any videos of the uds yet.. would really like to see the keynot of marc
[18:21] <rumpe1> Mjolnir, at least it won't change your system very much
[18:21] <zus> mbeierl,  it is a usb external
[18:21] <Mjolnir> ok then i dont want it, but would mounting it work?
[18:21] <usr13> Mjolnir: wubi is not in it's native file system so some stuff isn't really like it ought to be, but it works and works well for what it is.
[18:21] <westxx> 11.04  update manager unable to initialized package information
[18:21] <Polah> !repeat: westxx
[18:21] <zus> it shows up in the live disc when ya open gparted
[18:21] <Polah> !repeat | westxx
[18:21] <magepsycho_> any good download manager for ubuntu?
[18:22] <rumpe1> Mjolnir, you have to boot from it for a "real" install
[18:22] <usr13> magepsycho_: wget
[18:22] <mbeierl> zus: does it still show as a device when you plug in it?  do a tail -f /var/log/messages with it unplugged.  then plug it in and pastebin the new lines that show up after you plug it in
[18:22] <magepsycho_> ok
[18:22] <magepsycho_> what about ratfat
[18:22] <v0lksman> any articles on how to keep Gnome in 11.04?  I'm not a big fan of unity
[18:22] <noob> how to symbol browser gedit in ubuntu 11.04
[18:22] <magepsycho_> some refered me this ratfat
[18:22] <coz_> westxx,   open a terminal...   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    see what it reports
[18:22] <tripelb> what's this? I cant copy part of a webpage, text + image into abiword. It doesnt do the image, only the text from the clipboard. Help?
[18:22] <Mjolnir> rumpe ah okay, then ill go the usb route
[18:22] <Polah> magepsycho_: Doesn't Chrome have a built-in manager like Firefox's downloads window?
[18:23] <Polah> coz_: I don't think dist-upgrade upgrades distribution anymore...
[18:23] <magepsycho_> yes but i want some resume capability
[18:23] <ThinkT510> !classic | v0lksman
[18:23] <tripelb> polah control-j in either browser.
[18:23] <magepsycho_> so that i can pause and download later
[18:23] <magepsycho_> so ratfat vs wget?
[18:23] <zus> mbeierl,  one sec
[18:23] <coz_> Polah,  no its not suppose to go to the next version  but i use dist-upgrade  especially with new releases
[18:23] <anonuser> Salut
[18:23] <Polah> tripelb: That jumps my cursor up to my search box
[18:23] <westxx> coz: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:23] <tripelb> magepsycho, you want that. I want it too. It's not there in ubuntu either.. I've posted that here before.
[18:23] <anonuser> Hi !
[18:23] <v0lksman> ThinkT510, awesome!  thanks!  so gnome is still installed as part of the ubuntu-desktop package just not the default manager?
[18:24] <magepsycho_> also i didn like 11.04 gnome
[18:24] <kaddi> how's natty so far? Any big issues due to which you would advise not to upgrade?
[18:24] <mbeierl> zus: certainly.  I also don't know your level of experience or familiarity with ubuntu, so let me know if I'm skipping over things that you might not understand.
[18:24] <ThinkT510> v0lksman: yes, its still there gnome 2
[18:24] <Polah> magepsycho: I don't know what ratfat is, but wget is a build in command for getting files (i.e. wget www.google.co.uk/magicalfile.zip)
[18:24] <magepsycho_> 10.x was better
[18:24] <tripelb> polah, for me that's control-F (makes the search box)  -- and both things I reposrt are standard afaik
[18:24] <coz_> magepsycho_,  you mean the classic session?
[18:24] <magepsycho_> yes
[18:24] <mbeierl> kaddi: only one I know of is iphone tethering for ios 4.x does not work at all nor is there a workaround.
[18:24] <dr3mro> how to symbol browser gedit in ubuntu 11.04
[18:24] <coz_> magepsycho_,  mm  I use it here,,what was the issue with it?
[18:24] <Polah> tripelb: Oh no, ctrl-F gives me the search box, I mean the internet search (i.e. Google) in the top right is what I get for ctrl-J
[18:25] <Polah> dr3mro: sudo apt-get install gedit perhaps
[18:25] <magepsycho_> the launcher is the big problem
[18:25] <duoduo2012web> what
[18:25] <usr13> magepsycho_: we don't know anything about ratfat   Best to use wget
[18:25] <tripelb> polah I will recheck.
[18:25] <kaddi> mbeierl: hmm, well that luckily wouldn't concern me.. I heard rumors about there being kernel panics with intel graphic chips again, which makes me weary
[18:25] <magepsycho_> since i need to open lots of files. it's very tedious to serch the old and use it again
[18:25] <coz_> magepsycho_,  oh that is the Unity session
[18:25] <kaddi> but i just started looking around and am collecting intel
[18:25] <magepsycho_> yes
[18:25] <Polah> Is anyone else experiencing the issue with 11.04 Classic where the GNOME context menus for items appear mis-spaces, with separators going through (behind) words, rather than inbetween lines?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> magepsycho_: i use fatrat
[18:25] <coz_> magepsycho_,   if you log off of that and choose the classic session  you will be back to a more familiar interface
[18:26] <magepsycho_> yes i use that.. but i just mentioned that issue.. since i expected that newer version has some user friendliness
[18:26] <Polah> You can also default to classic by going to Login Screen, unlocking it and selecting Classic as the default environment
[18:26] <magepsycho_> but it isn't.. classic is far better for me
[18:26] <tripelb> polah, what is it that you want? I may have misunderstood. I get all my downloads, ability to prune the list or show an old one, and to search but only in the downloads list.
[18:26] <dr3mro> Polah, E: Unable to locate package perhaps ??? i need a symbol browser for gedit ?
[18:26] <Alarm> Selam
[18:27] <magepsycho_> i need to give a try for fatrat
[18:27] <coz_> magepsycho_,  ah sorry didnt see you post on that,,,
[18:27] <mbeierl> zus: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:27] <Polah> dr3mro: A symbol browser? Like Character Map? Try charmap in your command line
[18:27] <utilisateur> kbb
[18:27] <zus> mbeierl, kubuntu 11.04
[18:27] <magepsycho_> nope coz_
[18:27] <dr3mro> Polah, no i want it to view my source code classes .. functions .. variables?
[18:27] <magepsycho_> can you post me that linkk
[18:28] <djindy> Is there a terminal command to just continually display random information for a while? or something that's easy that acts like its doing something?
[18:28] <saimanoj> by executing metacity --replace the title bar is recovered but the system is hanging.
[18:28] <Polah> tripelb: I was saying that Chrome has a built-in downloads manager to magepsycho. Nothing I needed (:
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> magepsycho_: not everyone likes Unity just like everyone doesn't like gnome. You have choice in Linux
[18:28] <usr13> djindy: tail -f /var/log/messages
[18:28] <mbeierl> zus: one moment.  I'm not on natty but it appears that /var/log/messages is no longer used there.  I'm looking to see what the replacement is.  unless someone else knows?
[18:28] <Polah> dr3mro: Syntax highlighting if you're using it for coding? I think gedit does basic syntax highlighting, but try bluefish for a wider ranger
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> magepsycho_: i use the web ui of fatrat and run it on my samba server.
[18:29] <francesco_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:29] <djindy> usr13, cool, that's interesting, but I was hoping for something that would continually generate random messages so that it will keep changing.
[18:29] <usr13> djindy: Or  sudo tcpdump -i eth0
[18:29] <aby> Hello, I want to change the boot order of OSe's in GRUB2. How do I do that?
[18:30] <francesco_> !list
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: do you want kernel messages?
[18:30] <westxx> ubuntu 11.04 " update manager unable to initialized package information'
[18:30] <karlo> I have firefox 4 (on ubuntu 11.04) and flash is not loading ..its white and I can hear sound, but no image
[18:30] <coz_> westxx,  oh even after the upgrade commands?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Aby: do you want windows at the default?
[18:30] <usr13> djindy: Substitute eth0 with what ever interface you are connected to the net with.
[18:30] <aby> yea ActionParsnip
[18:30] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: yes.  I'm trying to help zus with seeing if his usb device has a partition table left for recovery and I'd like to see the usb/hal/insertion messages
[18:31] <magepsycho> coz_  u there
[18:31] <usr13> mbeierl: sudo fdiks -l
[18:31] <trism> mbeierl: in natty, /var/log/messages is commented out in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf, you could always uncomment it and restart rsyslog if you want it back, although most interesting messages are in /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog
[18:31] <coz_> magepsycho,  yep
[18:31] <magepsycho> do you know the shortcut keys for opening the terminal?
[18:31] <djindy> usr13, thanks, I'm going to try out a few other things but these are good starting points.
[18:31] <magepsycho> and the post tht you are mentioning
[18:31] <aby> ctrl alt t
[18:31] <karlo> magepsycho, crtl alt T
[18:32] <coz_> magentar,  mm let me check the deafult keybinding
[18:32] <mbeierl> trism: as I'm not running natty - do you know if syslog would be where device detection shows up?
[18:32] <magepsycho> thanks it works
[18:32] <tripelb> polah, K
[18:32] <mbeierl> zus: try tail -f /var/log/syslog just to see if that one changes on insert of the USB drive
[18:32] <coz_> magepsycho,  I believe the default keybinding is   ctrl+alt+t
[18:32] <magepsycho> hey Actionparnship.. can you help me on installing fatrat
[18:32] <en1gma> im about ready to do an ubuntu 11.04 i386 desktop  install and i was wondering if there is a way not to install office
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: run: dmesg  and you will see the log
[18:33] <hcaine> Did some one have install VMWare on 11.04
[18:33] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: is there a tail -f type follow command for dmesg?
[18:33] <trism> mbeierl: kern.log would probably have more information for device insertation
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Aby: have you not searched any? I've literally found thousands of guides
[18:33] <aby> yea
[18:33] <aby> but how to edit
[18:33] <ThinkT510> !vmware | hcaine
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Aby: http://saji89.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/how-to-make-windows-the-defaultfirst-entry-in-your-grub2-menu/
[18:33] <aby> i mean
[18:34] <aby> grub.cfg
[18:34] <francesco_> ciao
[18:34] <aby> I cant edit the file
[18:34] <francesco_> !list
[18:34] <zus> mbeierl,  one sec
[18:34] <mbeierl> zus: if not, try tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[18:34] <francesco_> Lista
[18:34] <user82> does anyone know how to select a radiobutton via keyboard? tab highlights them but enter does not work(starts the search button for example)
[18:34] <mbeierl> trism: thanks :)
[18:34] <iceroot> user82: space
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Aby: read the top 10 lines of grub.cfg will you. Just for me
[18:35] <en1gma> how do i do an ubuntu install without installing open office
[18:35] <user82> iceroot, thanks. always wanted to know that!
[18:35] <iceroot> !minimal | en1gma
[18:35] <iceroot> en1gma: or use 11.04 which doesnt contain open-office :)
[18:35] <zus> mbeierl,  it gave me something when i  plugged it in and  unplugged it
[18:35] <en1gma> i thought 11.04 had some kind of office in it
[18:35] <en1gma> its 2GB
[18:35] <mbeierl> zus: excellent.  anything about a /dev/sd... something?
[18:36] <iceroot> en1gma: libre office
[18:36] <Polah> en1gma: Libreoffice?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: use minimal and install the apps you wa
[18:36] <en1gma> ah maybe
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Nt
[18:36] <en1gma> ok gonna go look for it
[18:36] <en1gma> brb
[18:36] <zus> mbeierl,  let me  look
[18:36] <Polah> Applications > Office
[18:36] <coz_> en1gma,     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:36] <en1gma> thanks
[18:37] <coz_> !minimal
[18:37] <zus> mbeierl,  sdb
[18:38] <aby> ActionParsnip, I get mv: cannot stat `30_os-prober': No such file or directory when I do the 2nd command listed on the blog
[18:38] <zus> mbeierl, [sdb]<PHONE_NUMBER> 512-byte logical blocks: (1.00 TB/931 GiB)
[18:38] <magepsycho> hey guys.. can you help me in making the fine resolution.. i am feeling some blurry font issue
[18:39] <mbeierl> zus: so the device itself is /dev/sdb - the RAW device.  what command did you use to "format" the drive?  and is there anything about a /dev/sdb1 or sdb2 ...?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: or use Lubuntu, no open/libre office by default
[18:39] <en1gma> checking
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> aby: did you change directory to /etc/grub.d
[18:40] <magepsycho> any help on fiine resolution and removing blurry font guys?
[18:40] <zus> mbeierl, had the live disc in the drive but after changing the  drop down menu it must have not clicked to the HDD in the laptop
[18:40] <nan0-> hi all !
[18:40] <kaddi> hi!
[18:40] <aby> yea, I changed directory to /etc/grub.d and then only executed the first line
[18:40] <nan0-> I'm noob on irc ;)
[18:41] <aby> should I keep on cding to /etc/grub.d?
[18:41] <kaddi> well this is the place to ask all your questions about ubuntu ;)
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Aby: run: ls do you see the files named? I
[18:41] <nan0-> woop sorry
[18:41] <crazydiamond> How do I tty switching by Ctrl+Alt+Fn instead of Alt+Fn?
[18:41] <nan0-> i must change channel, bye :)
[18:41] <kaddi> bye
[18:41] <aby> hmm no
[18:42] <aby> its a little different
[18:42] <mbeierl> zus: I have to stop for a minute due to work.  can you hold?  read the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery on recovering a partition in the meantime
[18:42] <aby> but  think i can figure it out
[18:42] <zus> mbeierl,  sure
[18:42] <Roasted> Is there a way to speed up Unity on netbooks? The 2D version, to be frank, sucks, and the 3D version is pretty snappy however I'd like to make the actual overlay menu to work faster.  But this patch ended with error. I have found that there is another patchvmware-server-2.0.2-203138-update.patch.gz available at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10761345. But i cant login to download it
[18:43] <Roasted> CPU is Atom
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Aby: in short, the number dictates position, if you swap the number in the filename between the Linux and Windows files it wi change the order. Use a different filename to switch with
[18:44] <Osmodivs> What is the output of "date -u +%W$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'"?
[18:44] <soreau> Roasted: You can ask in #intel-gfx if there's any way to make it better. AFAIK, you have 'the best' drivers available, which isn't saying much since most all intel gpu's and drivers mostly suck
[18:45] <soreau> Roasted: ie. be glad it works at all ;)
[18:45] <Roasted> soreau, I find that funny... because intel is the one company I felt I could rely on as they always had quality drivers. this is, of course, in regard to wireless.
[18:45] <Roasted> soreau, they're even better than atheros when it comes to wireless drivers for linux...
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Aby: if you read what is going on in the guide it makes sense
[18:45] <soreau> Roasted: How do you figure?
[18:45] <Polah>  Roasted: They certainly don't excel in graphics.
[18:45] <aby> yea I am kinda figuring it out ActionParsnip
[18:46] <aby> but is the 40_custom
[18:46] <Roasted> soreau, I've used a lot of different laptops with linux. after all, I have several hundred here to play with at work.
[18:46] <aby> the windows ?
[18:46] <Roasted> soreau, I'm just speaking from personal experience. I've only had 1 major issue with an atheros card. I've had DOZENS of major issues with broadcom, and I've had... zero... with intel. Intel was just my safe haven for wireless with linux.
[18:46] <soreau> Roasted: and Polah is right, comparing two completely different chipsets from the same company isn't a good idea. There are completely different driver development teams
[18:46] <Osmodivs> What's wrong with this command line? What is the output of "date -u +%W$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'"?  I am trying to register at a Forum but apparently I suposed to have a correct terminal output, What's that command supose to show?
[18:47] <Roasted> soreau, oh I absolutely agree with you.
[18:47] <Osmodivs> All I get is a <
[18:47] <harushimo> when I'm installing any new software from the source is it better to be in root
[18:47] <edwardthefma> hello all
[18:47] <harushimo> ?
[18:47] <Roasted> soreau, I'm just trying to offer my insight since you specified "intel drivers suck."   I just wanted to offer some wireless insight. ;)
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Aby: if its mentioned in the guide then probably. You will find guides like that all over, you need to shuffle those files around then run: sudo update-grub    to apply
[18:48] <wes__> really stumped here, gotta ask one more time then punt: I want to change the behavior of pm-utils (on Natty) so that it does not modify the laptop-mode kernel settings (ever).  I've been using laptop-mode to reduce CF-wearout (by only flushing disk cache every 10 minutes).  This has worked well, but the new version of pm-utils in Natty seems quite different and I cannot figure out how to re-configure it...
[18:48] <aby> k
[18:48] <Roasted> It's a real shame though, because this laptop is solid and very lightweight to use. I just wish unity ran a bit better on it. And it runs great. Right now I'm using 220mb of RAM... but the actual overlay in unity runs so slow to populate available programs.
[18:49] <edwardthefma> how can i upgrade ubuntu 10.10 to 11
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[18:49] <soreau> Roasted: Yea I generally judge by how many people come through a major channel like this with issues. So far, I don't think I've had to assist one person with intel wifi but several people with atheros wifi that has a switch..
[18:50] <Polah> edwardthefma: Administration > Update Manager, if it doesn't say there's a new distribution available, go to Settings > Set "Release Upgrades" to "Normal Releases", close it, click "Check" and it should come up
[18:50] <Roasted> soreau, it does make me wonder if I should just utilize xfce on this laptop. Pity, because unity is beautiful... but then again xfce is rock solid too.
[18:50] <soreau> Roasted: Yea I guess you could try allocating more vram to the intel gpu? not sure if it would help, try #intel-gfx
[18:50] <soreau> Roasted: You could also try 'INTEL_BATCH=1 compiz --replace' but I think ubuntu already uses it when it detects intel gpu
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> mikestro: Roasted  dont forget Lubuntu/lxde :)
[18:52] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, I've tried LXDE. I'm not quite sure about it yet...
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> hmm. double nick comlpetion... heh
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  its a work in progress.. but i find it very useable.
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> Hopefully it will be an official variant.. soon
[18:54] <GrimmVarg> hey guys! Anyone running 11.04 on a Aspire One 751h ? :)
[18:54] <bullgard4> When booting, Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK]. iii.) [fail]." What program did write them?
[18:54] <magepsycho> how to pin the eclipse to panel?
[18:55] <bin_bash> Apt-get --purge remove skype SHOULD remove EVERYTHING from skype, right?
[18:55] <myself> :P
[18:55] <KM0201> bin_bash: i think so.
[18:55] <bastidrazor> bin_bash: everything except what is left in your ~/
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> magepsycho:  Eclipse seems problematic. Proberly because of how it starts. ive not seen a quick answer to how to do it in here yet.  The ubuntu forums or askubuntu.com may have a better answer
[18:55] <bin_bash> bastidrazor: okay. that explains why i had to manually rm the .Skype directory
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> bin_bash:  it will NOT touch settings in the users home.
[18:56] <myself> español, alguien?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> thats a feature of the package manager system. :) leave home alone.
[18:56] <KM0201> hm
[18:56] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  the only issue I found with lxde is no multiple monitor support  or rather pcman thingy whateverits called
[18:56] <bin_bash> Has anyone else had problems with skype continually disconnecting and then reconnecting at random intervals?
[18:56] <bastidrazor> myself: #ubuntu-es for espanol
[18:56] <magepsycho> which one is good editor for ubuntu  (PHP)
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  cant say that i really noticed.  My 2nd montior died. :)
[18:56] <bastidrazor> magepsycho: scite
[18:56] <aaaaalex> bin_bash: must be M$ starting to lock out Linux already?
[18:56] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  ooo sorry to hear that,,must be a painful experience now
[18:56] <myself> ok.. first time using irc T_T
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> coz_: id rather see them use rox filer. :) but rox is weird in other ways
[18:57] <magepsycho> i tried netbeans.. it was too slow in ubuntu
[18:57] <magepsycho> eclipse pdt seems much better
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  I can now use a smaller desk. :)
[18:57] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  understood :)
[18:57] <bin_bash> aaaaalex: I srsly doubt it, as this is a brand new problem.
[18:57] <aaaaalex> bin_bash, sorry for joking
[18:57] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  go to a thrift store ,,pick up a cheak crt :)
[18:57] <aaaaalex> i dont seem to have the issue
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  i got a dozen of them.. :) in the garrage.. i give them away to whoever wants them
[18:58] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  pick up a "cheap" one I menat
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  ive seen LCD's 19" for under $100 on sale.
[18:58] <bin_bash> aaaaalex: I'm all for jokes and everything, but this is a serious and continuous problem for me, as other VOIP programs don't seem to work the way I need them too. It seems that skype either causes kernel panics, or doesn't stay connected
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  saveing up for a nicer bigger lcd. then move this smaller one to the 2nd display port.
[18:58] <coz_> Dr_Willis,   ooooo cool price ,, maybe not great  contrast etc but still :)
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> To many monitors seem to do just 1080p and thats it.. You have to look hard for ones that can do higher.
[18:59] <Mjolnir> is there a way, if you are dualbooting windows and linux, that you can have a shared desktop folder, or  any folder that both os's can see and write???
[18:59] <embracred-34> oi
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> Mjolnir:  linux can read/write ntfs just fine.
[18:59] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  for sure
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[18:59] <bin_bash> Mjolnir: good luck with Windows seeing anything, but Linux can read your ntfs file
[18:59] <codex84> why im always getting disconnected
[18:59] <aaaaalex> bin_bash, i have been running skype all day - using natty and latest version: can not confirm the issue
[18:59] <embracred-34> ond vc estao
[18:59] <codex84> like i have power of the router
[18:59] <Mjolnir> bin_bash thats my issue
[18:59] <codex84> off*
[19:00] <codex84> and click auto eth0
[19:00] <mang0> Bother.
[19:00] <coco> aaaaalex: I wonder if we will be able to use skype now that windows bought it
[19:00] <embracred-34> q
[19:00] <bin_bash> aaaaalex: Yeah, I was using it just fine for a while. did a couple updates, and then BAM skype doesn't want to work. Purged it twice al;ready.
[19:00] <embracred-34> onde
[19:00] <KM0201> coco: when did that happen?
[19:00] <coco> today
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if remove/reinstalling will fix things.. thats windows thinking. ;)
[19:00] <coco> windows bought skype today
[19:00] <aaaaalex> Mjolnir, you can also write to your ntfs partition from linux
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> coco:  you mean 'microsoft' bought it?
[19:00] <bin_bash> Mjolnir: Unfortunately you won't be able to read ext3/4 on either Windows or OS X
[19:00] <KM0201> wow.
[19:01] <coco> yes microsoft
[19:01] <coco> horrible news!!
[19:01] <tensorpudding> there's an ext3 driver for Windows, but it might not do ext4
[19:01] <bin_bash> Dr_Willis: I decided to purge everything, as perhaps it was a problem with the configs
[19:01] <oCean> coco: this channel is for support, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:01] <tensorpudding> also it doesn't feel as safe as ntfs-3g, for instance
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Ive heard of ext4 for windows.. but no tried it.
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> the ext3 readers for windows - have messed up badly on my linux partitons.. I dont trust it much.
[19:01] <tensorpudding> I don't think it does an ACL mapping like NTFS-3g does either
[19:02] <tensorpudding> so for interoperability it's not that stellar.
[19:02] <aaaaalex> Mjolnir, i have my ntfs partition mounted and can write to it fine. this thread should point you in the right directionhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=439196
[19:03] <gemenon> anyone familiar with how to change the shortcut buttons for apps in the launcher on 11.04?
[19:05] <aaaaalex> gemenon, the launchers are to be found in /usr/share/applications. if you want to change an icon you can do it in the respective .desktop file
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> gemenon: change in what way?
[19:06] <gemenon> sorry that was poorly worded, i meant to say keyboard shortcuts for each app.  i don't want to use #-s-a-f-t as it is default
[19:08] <aaaaalex> gemenon, afaik. those are hard coded into the place/lense code
[19:09] <bin_bash> Dr_Willis: While it may be a windows mentality to purge and reinstall, it seemed to have worked ;)
[19:10] <deejay> hey
[19:10] <karl__> Hey guys I installed 11.04 and performance sucks I have 512 mb of ram what can I do to make things faster
[19:10] <gemenon> would it be possible to disable those and run some other app which will allow me to specify shortcuts for commands/apps?
[19:10] <Viper550> Okay, little question - on the VESA video driver, is there a reason why the cursor disappears every time you click something?
[19:10] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: Remember yesterday you were helpong me with skype and it was continually disconnecting and reconnecting?
[19:10] <maco> karl__: get more ram or turn off unity?