[00:53] <gunndawg> darthanubis: 0/
[01:28] <gazalam> Anyone else have an issue with the update for 15.04 today? My desktop is black after I log in. Nothing is displayed except for the update manager
[01:29] <gazalam> if I put the cursor in the top left it still shows the blue glow to get to the task switcher
[01:39] <Syco54645> hello, running the latest beta of kubuntu and having an issue getting my terminal to load my .profile file by default
[02:06] <Erthe> Hey folks.  Does anyone know of a way to enable global keyboard shortcuts to kmail?
[02:18] <drdoom> is there a default way to do desktop sharing (vnc or the like) in kubuntu 14.10?
[02:21] <Erthe> KRDC
[02:21] <Erthe> Launcher > Applications Tab --> Internet -> Remote Desktop Sharing
[02:22] <Erthe> Although, that's the client.
[02:23] <drdoom> correct, I don't care about the client.  I need a server
[02:24] <Erthe> I've used this too: https://www.nomachine.com/download/linux&id=1
[02:24] <Erthe> Free for personal use.
[02:25] <drdoom> Erthe: I appreciate that but with NX you then have to have a separate NX client as well
[02:25] <drdoom> if I really want to be involved, I could do x2go
[02:25] <Erthe> You'll need a client either way drdoom
[02:25] <Erthe> VNC is available on Kubuntu
[02:25] <drdoom> I believe the default ubuntu has what is effectively a builtin vnc server via a checkbox
[02:26] <drdoom> the issue isn't the alternatives.  it's trying to make it as simple as possible for a user who knows jack about remote desktop sharing on their end
[02:26] <drdoom> assume this user is like a grandmother without any experience
[02:26] <Erthe> VNC client is pretty easy to use.
[02:27] <Erthe> https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-14.04
[02:27] <Erthe> That should point you in the right direction.
[02:27] <drdoom> yes, I have used the clients for years.  but last time I messed with vnc server on linux, it didn't do as expected.  I don't remember all the details
[02:27] <Erthe> Configuration of most services under Linux have become much easier to work with in the last few years.
[02:28] <Erthe> And that howto should provide you with all you need.
[02:28] <drdoom> if I have to get into the box and do it myself, that's ok.  I like the standard ubuntu idea of making a vnc server via checkbox immediately active and ready to go outside of configuring the router for port forwarding
[02:29] <Erthe> There may be options like that for KDE too, I don't use it.
[02:29] <drdoom> I can neither ssh in or vnc/rdp/nx/x2go at the moment.  what about things like gotomeeting, have you guys tested that for something quick and simple?
[02:29] <Erthe> GoToMeeting uses a Win32 plugin.
[02:29] <drdoom> yeah, I'm looking for people with kde experience for exactly this reason.  I don't see anything obvious searching around
[02:30] <Erthe> But you could Wine it and do it through Pipelight
[02:30] <drdoom> doesn't have to be gotomeeting, teamviewer, webex, etc
[02:30] <Erthe> Why can't you SSH into the box?
[02:30] <drdoom> no port forward
[02:30] <Erthe> That's a networking issue in any configuration.
[02:30] <drdoom> of course
[02:31] <Erthe> You'd have to use a browser-based plugin that can't share data over http
[02:31] <Erthe> *can share
[02:31] <drdoom> coulda woulda shoulda.  the idea is that we have a challenge with a user who knows very little and a need to remote in
[02:31] <Erthe> Best case scenario if you have to support it, is do support intervals.
[02:31] <Erthe> With Kubuntu you can design the desktop as you see fit.
[02:32] <Erthe> You could make it incredibly simple.
[02:33] <Erthe> Does your side of the fence have the capability to forward ports by IP?
[02:34]  * Erthe has an idea.
[02:35] <drdoom> yes
[02:35] <drdoom> reverse listen?
[02:42] <drdoom> In any event, thanks for the help Erthe
[02:43] <drdoom> maybe I should just play around with vnc server again when I am able to get back to that box
[02:54] <Erthe> drdoom: You could setup a script on the opposite end that exports the X display to your location and runs a terminal.
[02:54] <Erthe> So you'd end up getting a Konsole window in your X display.
[02:54] <Erthe> That's local to the remote box.
[02:55] <drdoom> right, but then x server runs without encryption, which needs ssh, etc
[02:55] <drdoom> I will eventually be able to get back to that box, but this is more a thought experiment on how to help people in these situations
[02:55] <drdoom> :D
[02:56] <drdoom> something like join.me or gotomeeting aren't really possible since they don't have linux non-exe plugins, but they would be great for a temporary way in to port forward and setup vnc, etc
[02:56] <drdoom> teaching myself more about x forwarding with a vm now, neat stuff
[02:57] <Erthe> With respect to gtm or join.me you *can* install the plugin through pipelight
[02:57] <Erthe> Well, through wine, and run it with pipelight.
[02:57] <drdoom> not familiar with that
[02:57] <drdoom> ok, so it wants wine
[02:57] <Erthe> pipelight runs silverlight apps in linux browsers
[02:57] <drdoom> oh ok
[02:58] <Erthe> So if it's a Silverlight app for join.me, it's possible
[02:58] <drdoom> are gotomeeting and the like effectively using silverlight?
[02:58] <Erthe> Well, I don't know, but if one of them does that's an open route to take.
[02:58] <drdoom> I see
[02:59] <drdoom> looks like all I really need is to make sure I install openssh-server and port forward along with fail2ban when I'm on location
[02:59] <Erthe> Yup.
[02:59] <drdoom> then I can either ssh directly or x forward an app I might need
[02:59] <Erthe> I want Mumble to get screen sharing.
[02:59] <drdoom> I would normally do this but it's my brother I hadn't seen in a long time and he twisted my arm into getting drunk
[02:59] <Erthe> That'll solve a lot of issues.
[02:59] <drdoom> :D
[03:00] <Erthe> Hope you find your solution :D
[03:00] <drdoom> thanks for bouncing ideas back to me
[03:01] <Erthe> With *nix, if there isn't a solution, create one.  And no problem.
[03:03] <drdoom> true true.  I like the idea of setting up a kde desktop that's what I need it to be universally
[03:04] <Erthe> I wish KDE had a cloud service to store all of my desktop settings so, when I reinstall or in the event of a system disaster, I can resync my settings.
[03:05] <drdoom> how do we stop showing join and parts in the web irc client?
[03:06] <drdoom> probably not a bad idea for the settings although doesn't ubuntu use ubuntu one for stuff like that?
[03:06] <drdoom> linux mint has something but I believe it's just a local backup
[03:06] <Erthe> I'm kinda thinking something through OpenDesktop.org
[03:07] <drdoom> I know some of the programmer types use git and create a "dotfiles" dir for stuff like config files
[03:07] <Erthe> So Kubuntu, SuSE, whatever your KDE settings are stored globally.
[03:07] <Erthe> *nods*
[03:08] <Erthe> I don't want to pay for a private Github repo though, and I'm not sure I want some personal settings browsable by others.
[03:09] <drdoom> I didn't realize you had to pay
[03:10] <drdoom> I'm sure there's a way to do something like what you want with dropbox and scripts
[03:10] <drdoom> but I don't always trust things like dropbox
[03:10] <drdoom> depends on your level of paranoia
[03:13] <Erthe> Public repos are free on GH
[03:13] <Erthe> Google Drive was an idea I had too.
[03:13] <Erthe> grive is pretty handy
[03:14] <stormchaser3000> hi
[03:14] <stormchaser3000> does anyone know if installing ublock on rekonq is possible?
[03:17] <Erthe> I don't know if Rekonq can make use of the modern FF plugins or not.
[03:17] <Erthe> stormchaser3000: Install it in FF and try loading up Rekonq.  I doubt it's possible, but ya never know.
[03:18] <Erthe> https://userbase.kde.org/Rekonq/FAQs#How_do_I_enable_Adblock.3F
[03:22] <Viperisthebest> hello
[03:23] <stormchaser3000> ugh
[03:23] <stormchaser3000> is there a way i can use the rekonq ad block
[03:23] <stormchaser3000> without disableing rekonq from visiting most websites
[03:24] <Erthe> stormchaser3000: You're beyond my realm of knowledge, I use Chrome.
[03:24] <Erthe> Viperisthebest: Hi.
[03:24] <stormchaser3000> because when i enable rekonq's ad block. rekonq doesn't want to connect to most websites
[03:24] <Erthe> Read about how to configured it.
[03:25] <Erthe> *configure
[03:26] <Viperisthebest> I'm trying to install the latest nvidia driver, it says the pre-install script has failed, and nouveau won't let me install it
[03:30] <Viperisthebest> I think I have to add more things to the nouveau blacklist file it created for me
[03:31] <Viperisthebest> Do you know anything about nvidia Erthe?
[03:35] <Viperisthebest> Erthe does kubuntu come with the latest version of java already installed?
[04:01] <drdoom> Erthe: are you familiar with VPSes?
[04:12] <drdoom> Erthe: you might be able to run a free vm at one of the sites that has an educational slant (Azure?) and rsync that way
[04:48] <Erthe> drdoom: I think I may concoct a web service and propose it's use.
[04:49] <Erthe> drdoom: And yes I'm familiar with VPSs.
[05:19] <drdoom> Erthe: sounds good
[06:19] <parsnip> ll
[06:43] <soee> good morning
[06:46] <Erthe> Good morning soee.
[06:47] <Erthe> Having a hell of a time with Kmail today.
[07:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:13] <Guest91709> добрый день
[07:13] <lordievader> !ru | Guest91709
[08:03] <s_20> since baloo is having a field with one of my CPUs, is there a way to see how the indexing (which it is for i assume) has already progressed?
[08:36] <s_20> well after a reboot (for other reasons) baloo seems to be happy again
[11:18] <donniezazen> s_20: indexing is suppose to be superfast which would mean showing progression is either not feasble or useful.
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <Syco54645> hello, running the latest beta of kubuntu and having an issue getting my terminal to load my .profile file by default
[11:44] <rick_> looking good...#Plasma5
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Syco54645, try it in the run command/ktunner
[11:46] <BluesKaj> err krunner
[11:46] <rick_> is it a bug or something?
[11:46] <rick_> Krunner???\
[11:47] <BluesKaj> could be, it's a dev OS
[11:47] <BluesKaj> alt+f2
[11:48] <BluesKaj> or righy click on the desktop, choose run command
[11:48] <BluesKaj> err right
[13:19] <wellington> Olá
[13:19] <wellington> alguém pode me da uma ajudinha ???
[13:19] <wellington> to com uns problemas com o KDE com plasma5
[13:45] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys.
[13:45] <lordievader> o/
[13:46] <LINKSWORD2> Question: I'm looking for a video editor, preferrably one that can handle FLV to AVI. Any suggestions?
[14:03] <rmrfchik> hi, is there way to install kubuntu from behind proxy?
[14:03] <rmrfchik> installer says "no internet"
[14:05] <Walex> rmrfchik: the installer is wrong! The Internet still exists...
[14:05] <hateball> Well you don't *have* to have a internet connection during the install
[14:05] <rmrfchik> this confuses me
[14:05] <rmrfchik> ok
[14:05] <Walex> rmrfchik: the existince of a proxy does not matter. what matters is that it has an address etc. that can be routed/NATed to the internet
[14:06] <hateball> It just makes it easier to grab things like restricted-packages and language packs and such if you are connected during install
[14:06] <BluesKaj> rmrfchik, don't choose updates or 3rd party in th einstaller
[17:23] <P3D03MP1R3> why would you log this chat?
[17:23] <P3D03MP1R3> why not make it anonymous?
[17:24] <sithlord48> pretty sure freenode logs all chatrooms
[17:25] <P3D03MP1R3> are there any kids here? or is it just grown ups?
[17:25] <sithlord48> idk
[17:28] <genii> P3D03MP1R3: It doesn't matter if there are any kids here or not, if they are using Kubuntu and arfe needing or giving support for it. The channel rules of all *buntu channels require them to be family-friendly
[17:29] <P3D03MP1R3> i'm very family friendly
[17:29] <P3D03MP1R3> i love kids and families
[17:29] <P3D03MP1R3> especially kids
[17:38] <faust> P3D03MP1R3: you are not funny
[17:39] <P3D03MP1R3> that's because i'm not a comedian faust
[17:39] <faust> P3D03MP1R3: this is sad
[17:40] <P3D03MP1R3> you're sad? go fuck kids it will make you happy
[19:24] <MichaelP> in kubuntu can't find xorg.conf.d .. arch is etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[19:29] <xennex81> question... what channel can I go to to ask about embedded browsers, or single purpose browser? (web browsers, I want something for a wiki that doesn't coincide with other windows)
[19:29] <F03SD> нинужно вобщем говоря)))
[19:32] <MoonUnit`> MichaelP: ptu my conf in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[19:33] <MoonUnit`> *put
[19:34] <MichaelP> MoonUnit`: already found it
[19:38] <genii> MoonUnit`: Every time I see you here I imagine your last name is Zappa ;)
[19:39] <MoonUnit`> :)
[22:33] <phoenixz> Will Kubunti 15.04 have wayland?
[22:33] <phoenixz> instead of X ?
[22:38] <deadmund> Anybody here?
[22:40] <genii> phoenixz: Xorg 1.16
[22:41] <genii> deadmund: Better if you have a support question just to say it in the channel and see if anyone takes it up
[22:48] <deadmund> genii: I figured it out already.  haha, sorry!
[22:54] <Simonious> so I just dropped a DVD with the new ISO into a machine and it boots up, but then on the quit/try/install screen it hangs forever..  Mouse clicks do nothing.  Enter does nothing.  Only the Enter while 'quit' is selected does something - it just tosses up the confirmation box, but I don't want to quit, I want to do the install.  There are no errors.  If I go to a command line and type commands the DVD spins up at least..  W
[23:35] <MichaelP>  kubuntu 15.04 everytime i start to move mouse up center of screen and to left side. screen starts turning blue. closer to the corner bluer it gets... http://i.imgur.com/IPIBADm.jpg


[00:06] <bluesabre> micahg, any luck with catfish 0.6.1?
[00:34] <bluesabre> micahg, mr_pouit: just released parole (stable) 0.5.0 :-)
[01:11] <bluesabre> nothing makes things happen faster than a feature freeze
[01:13] <micahg> bluesabre: sorry, been busy all day, will take a look after I get -settings up for studio
[01:15]  * micahg will try to get gmusicbrowser up from Debian git as well
[01:53] <bluesabre> thanks micahg!
[08:00] <MrEAZ> hello there!!
[08:01] <MrEAZ> I have a notice about a non-valid website-link in software-center
[08:02] <MrEAZ> it's the link of Gmount-iso of which the website link should be https://launchpad.net/gmount-iso
[10:55] <zequence> So, FF, or no FF..
[10:57] <knome> PopeJob_, please fix your connection
[11:43] <bluesabre> zequence, assume that we will for now I suppose
[11:53] <zequence> bluesabre: Sure. We might as well keep working as if all was normal. Just that there will probably not be an official feature freeze today. Not until they've decide whether or not to scrap rolling release this time around
[11:56] <bluesabre> Well, it's not reallly a matter of scrapping the rolling release, since the decision to implement that hasn't actually been made yet
[11:57] <bluesabre> As Jono said yesterday, it's still just a proposal, and we might as well trust him because what else can we do?  :-)
[12:01] <zequence> That's true, but they are discussing it. And until they have decided to scrap the proposal, there will be no feature freeze
[12:02] <knome> i agree with bluesabre that the two things are not really connected
[12:02] <knome> whether 13.04 is released is not the same whether we move to RR
[12:02] <knome> it's at most just a trivial detail in the RR discussion
[12:04] <zequence> If they move towards a rolling release, there's no saying when it will be launched, which means, the current schedule will not be synced with that. Probably would mean we have more time
[12:04] <zequence> I'm also only talking about the official feature freeze
[12:04] <zequence> Either it will happen, or it won't
[12:04] <knome> brb, need to work
[12:09] <zequence> If a rolling release is announced, we all need to change our planning model. FF in itself may be a minor detail, but that's really what will signify if the change comes or not (unless they do the FF and keep discussing)
[12:10] <zequence> But from what is said so far, FF will come only after they've come to some sort of conlcusion
[12:10] <zequence> So, basically, I'm waiting for the answer: FF, or no FF
[12:22] <knome> yeah.
[12:22] <knome> that would need to be communicated
[12:22] <knome> but that has nothing to do with the decision to move to RR or not
[12:24] <zequence> If the said they're not announcing FF until they've discussed the topic of rolling release, in which way are you saying it has nothing to do with us moving to RR or not?
[12:24] <knome> it should have nothing to do with it
[12:24] <knome> that's a failure in the communication then
[12:25] <knome> and proves that this RR discussion is happening too late in the release
[12:26] <zequence> Actually, rereading, it seems also blocking FF was just a suggestion
[12:26] <zequence> Anyway. We should find out soon enough
[12:27] <knome> i thought there was some consensus that there is FF at least a few days ago, but i haven't followed the discussion too closely.
[12:32] <yofel> without the tech board there really can't be any consensus. Also mark took the diplomatic stance: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1228
[12:33]  * yofel assumes there will be FF today like the schedule says
[12:36] <zequence> I was wondering where Mark was at ;)
[12:37] <zequence> UDS this year was pretty focused on development only though
[12:40] <zequence> Good post. Hope some people take the time to read it
[14:40] <bluesabre_1> More from Mark: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1232
[17:21] <user99999> hello
[17:21] <user99999> how to change mouse dpi?
[17:34] <holstein> user99999: i would first /join the support channel.. then try asking "how do i change the cursor".. asking about changing the DPI is confusing. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974227
[17:36] <holstein> try Settings Manager -> Mouse -> Theme tab
[17:36] <user99999> holstein, not cursor theme :)
[17:36] <user99999> mouse resolution
[17:36] <holstein> user99999: you choose a different theme with a different resolution
[17:37] <holstein> user99999: otherwise, change the resolution of your screen
[17:38] <holstein> http://handytutorial.com/change-cursor-theme-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
[17:38] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75611/mouse-pointer-size-problem
[17:39] <user99999> :)
[17:39] <user99999> heavy the English :D
[17:40] <holstein> user99999: ?
[17:41] <user99999> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:41] <user99999>     Identifier     "Mouse0"
[17:41] <user99999>     Option "Resolution" "2000"
[17:41] <user99999> Option "Resolution" "2000" = dpi
[17:41] <holstein> user99999: i dont understand what "heavy the english" means.. also use pastebin
[17:42] <holstein> !paste
[17:42] <user99999> sry
[17:42] <holstein> user99999: no worries. also, join the support channel... #xubuntu
[17:43] <user99999> okey, join #xubuntu ..
[17:44] <user99999> ty :)
[18:51] <pleia2> oh!
[18:52] <pleia2> http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2013/03/07/s06e02-crouching-tiger-hidden-ubuntu/ :)
[18:52] <pleia2> (Xubuntu interview in there)
[18:56]  * pleia2 puts on the twitter and stuff
[19:29] <Noskcaj> congrats on the podcast interview pleia2, very interesting
[19:29] <pleia2> thanks
[19:29] <pleia2> it was recorded last Wednesday, so before storm of all-the-things ;)
[19:31] <Noskcaj> ok, i only just learned that xubuntu had a testing lead.
[19:31] <bluesabre_> indeed, listening to it now
[19:31] <pleia2> Noskcaj: well, we *did* have a testing lead...
[19:32] <pleia2> he got muy busy with real life this cycle though, we need a new one
[19:32]  * Noskcaj puts hand up
[19:32] <pleia2> knome: amagad ^^
[19:33] <pleia2> Noskcaj: good, we'll talk to knome, would be great to see testing stuff back on track
[19:33] <Noskcaj> :)
[19:33] <pleia2> the lead pretty much makes sure test cases exist, people are doing the tests, and periodically sends mails to the development list to remind us that we should be doing tests :)
[19:34] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:34]  * pleia2 hasn't done any this cycle :(
[19:34] <pleia2> so you should say "hey pleia2, this thing is important, can you do a test tonight?"
[19:34] <pleia2> and I will be "gosh, I forgot all about testing, yes sir!"
[19:34] <bluesabre_> I'll keep that in mind :)
[19:34] <Noskcaj> ok, lol. one thing, can someone get bug 1110158 fixed
[19:37] <micahg> that's a bug, it can be addressed after feature freeze
[19:38] <Noskcaj> micahg, my issue is it affects 12.10
[19:40] <micahg> oh, well, it needs to be fixed in raring first, but it's not even addressed upstream yet according to the linked bug
[19:41] <Noskcaj> yeah, knome and i reported and confirmed it, then it was forgotten
[19:41] <micahg> well, poke me next week and maybe I can take a look
[19:42] <Noskcaj> ok, ty
[19:42] <bluesabre_> micahg, have you gotten a chance to check out catfish or parole (sorry to keep bugging you)
[19:42] <micahg> bluesabre: was about to look at catfish again, you need me to upload parole as well?
[19:42] <bluesabre_> yeah, just released a new parole this morning
[19:43] <bluesabre_> it's packaging should be largely the same, so it shouldn't be too annoying
[19:44] <bluesabre_> Eventually, I'll move out of "developer-in-training" and into "developer" and won't have to bother you as much :)
[19:45] <micahg> yeah, we can work on PPU for you at some point once we've seen some packaging experience
[19:45] <pleia2> bluesabre_: and yes, I can test things for you too :) just know that I need very specific instructions about how to do it (what version xubuntu to test on, which ppa, what features to test)
[19:46] <bluesabre_> micahg, sure thing.  I was going to do the sponsored uploads, but FF snuck up on me
[19:47] <bluesabre_> sure thing pleia2, I sent an email to knome to share about things to test, not sure if he ever forwarded it to where he was going to
[20:03]  * micahg tries parole quickly
[20:03] <knome> bluesabre_, i didn't, we should get the testcases done
[20:04] <micahg> bluesabre: any reason why you're not using xz tarballs yet
[20:08] <bluesabre_> micahg, didn't know I was supposed to (and didn't know if the xfce release manager supported it)
[20:08] <bluesabre_> ... and, make distcheck just makes bz2 and gz
[20:08] <bluesabre_> knome, I thought I had finished them, maybe not
[20:08] <micahg> bluesabre: oh, not necessarily supposed to, was just wondering if there's a reason as xz is smaller and decompresses faster
[20:09] <knome> bluesabre_, they probably are finished. if they are and we don't have any more tests, we should move them to the iso tracker
[20:13] <micahg> bluesabre: parole uploaded
[20:13] <bluesabre_> knome, I'll review them tonight to make sure
[20:14] <micahg> I'd like to revamp the catfish packaging, but I have limited time
[20:14] <bluesabre_> micahg, you're awesome!  thanks
[20:14] <knome> bluesabre_, thanks!
[20:15] <bluesabre_> micahg, we could probably fix the packaging later, we'll probably have a 0.6.2 before release
[20:15] <micahg> bluesabre: major packaging revamps require an FFe
[20:15] <bluesabre_> ah
[20:16] <knome> micahg, is the FF officially taking place?
[20:16] <micahg> AFAIK, yes
[20:16] <knome> micahg, and does it mean that we will release, or are we picking on the developers for fun?
[20:16] <micahg> AFAIK, we're releasing 13.04
[20:16] <knome> :)
[20:17] <micahg> I still need to write up my proposal to -devel, but I have a lot of things in the air right now
[20:17] <knome> i'm pretty sure we all do
[20:17] <micahg> 13.04 may or may not have 18  months support
[20:17] <knome> that's fine as long as it is even slightly more than 6mth.
[20:23] <micahg> oh, right, not just packaging revamp with catfish, but lintian errors/warnings galore :(
[20:26] <bluesabre_> :(
[20:26] <micahg> oh, it's not so bad, just scrolly
[20:26] <micahg> bluesabre: in case you're curious: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594169/
[20:29] <bluesabre_> I'm assuming you had to change some things from the old packaging, right?  I know Liviu was trying to package it for his ppa and his generated debs were missing a bunch of files
[20:29] <micahg> bluesabre: no, not much actually, just needed intltool
[20:30] <bluesabre_> oh cool
[20:30] <micahg> bluesabre: am I missing stuff? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594177/
[20:31] <knome> Noskcaj_AFK, can you please not use awaynicks
[20:31] <Noskcaj_AFK> ok
[20:31] <bluesabre_> micahg, the depends are different now
[20:32] <knome> Noskcaj, thanks. if you want to tell people are away, use /away :)
[20:32] <bluesabre_> Depends: python-gi, gksu, findutils
[20:32] <Noskcaj> knome, ok, ty
[20:32] <knome> np
[20:32] <bluesabre_> Suggests: python-zeitgeist | zeitgeist
[20:32] <micahg> bluesabre: umm, I don't want to be depending on gksu
[20:33] <micahg> findutils is essential
[20:33] <bluesabre_> The update-index dialog uses the system command "gksudo"
[20:33] <micahg> so, you don't need python-xdg anymore?
[20:33] <bluesabre_> yeah, got rid of that dependency finally
[20:33] <micahg> why do you need sudo at all?
[20:33] <bluesabre_> gksudo updatedb to update the locate database
[20:34] <micahg> hrm, we still have it seeded so I guess that's ok for the moment
[20:35] <micahg> all the other suggests are useless now?
[20:36] <bluesabre_> yeah
[20:36] <micahg> ok, am I missing any files though?
[20:36] <bluesabre_> looks like its missing the catfish.py|catfish.pyc
[20:36] <bluesabre_> I can forward you a working deb so you can see the structure if you'd like?
[20:37] <micahg> ooh, that's important :)
[20:37] <bluesabre_> actually, it looks like its missing all the python files
[20:37] <micahg> yeah
[20:37] <micahg> let me check the build logs
[20:39] <bluesabre_> You can update the description too, if you want?
[20:39] <bluesabre_> Description: A file searching tool which is configurable via the command line.  Catfish is a handy file searching tool for Linux and UNIX. The interface is intentionally lightweight and simple, using only Gtk+3. You can configure it to your needs by using several command line options.  .  http://software.twotoasts.de/?page=catfish
[20:40] <micahg> bluesabre: oh, is it still hosted on twotoasts?  I thought it moved to LP
[20:40] <bluesabre_> yeah, its on LP now
[20:41] <micahg> No module named gi.repository
[20:41] <micahg> ...Error: The required module gi.repository is missing.
[20:41] <bluesabre_> didn't know if homepage was for project home or sourcecode home
[20:41] <micahg> home page is for project home, but twotoasts is out of date
[20:41] <knome> mr_pouit, is the bug 775117 reportedly fixed in R?
[20:41] <bluesabre_> python-gi?
[20:41] <micahg> not in build depends :)
[20:41] <bluesabre_> the lp page is probably better anyway
[20:41]  * micahg adds and tries again
[20:42] <bluesabre_> Depends: python-gi, gksu, findutils :)
[20:42] <micahg> that was from the build log
[20:54] <micahg> hrm, I think dh_python2 isn't happy since the path isn't the same as the package name
[20:59] <bluesabre_> does that mean its not going to work?
[20:59] <bluesabre_> bbiab, meeting time
[20:59] <micahg> no, it means I have to tweak it
[21:04] <micahg> hrm, still failed
[21:06] <micahg> python's not my specialty... I'll have to dig deeper
[21:13]  * micahg tries a bit of napalm
[21:26] <bluesabre_> kaboom?
[21:27] <micahg> nothing yet
[21:27] <micahg> knome: are we doing beta 1? (I'd like to say yes)
[21:28] <micahg> hrm, I can't seem to get dh_python2 to install anything
[21:28] <micahg> I'll have to get help with this later
[21:32] <bluesabre_> sorry for the time sink
[21:32] <bluesabre_> knome, we should definitely do beta 1
[21:33] <bluesabre_> then our new png-icon-theme could really get a workout
[21:33] <bluesabre_> not to mention parole and (possibly) catfish
[21:36] <knome> micahg, yes.
[21:36] <knome> ->
[21:37] <bluesabre_> micahg, this is what quickly used when I was using it's build stuff: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~catfish-search/catfish-search/0.5/revision/38#debian/rules but that's probably not too helpful
[21:57] <bluesabre_> heading out, bbl
[21:57] <bluesabre_> micahg, good luck!
[22:13] <micahg> bluesabre: it fails for me on the configure call with the straight dh7 short form
[22:21] <micahg> knome: so, someone should review the default languages on the ISO and make sure they're what's wanted
[23:04] <Unit193> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.raring/view/head:/desktop#L168 So we're still shipping alacarte rather than menulibre?  (I know, things could change.)
[23:06] <AndChat-114816> Yeah, menulibre still can't edit menu structure
[23:06] <Len-nb> menulibre didn't run for me on 13.04
[23:07] <bluesabre_mobile> Yeah, that's a minor bug I need to release a fix for
[23:08] <Unit193> bluesabre_mobile: Bummer, but thanks.
[23:09] <bluesabre_mobile> Yeah, hopefully next release. Feature freeze snuck up in me
[23:10]  * Len-nb would rather have none than alacarte
[23:12] <Len-nb> bluesabre_mobile, how much do you know about display detection?
[23:13] <bluesabre_mobile> Len-nb, not much. Check out the xfce4-settings code
[23:15] <Len-nb> That would tell me how to find what is there, xrandr does too, I want to detect when a second screen is plugged, unplugged
[23:16] <Len-nb> Thanks, though.
[23:16]  * Len-nb wanders off
[23:16] <Unit193> Not that I was the one asked, or know much when it comes to language packs, but I would have guessed de and fr would be used rather than xh, but I guess you learn new things.
[23:30] <Unit193> micahg: Sorry for being a pain, I was looking at "ship", not "live".  Only other seemingly highly used one is ru.
[23:33] <bluesabre_mobile> micahg, Liviu thinks he may have figured it out, doesn't look like his build has happened yet (catfish)
[23:35]  * bluesabre_mobile is excited for some raring builds
[23:44] <micahg> Unit193: we have the room, I don't mind adding it
[23:44] <Unit193> micahg: I'm going off of slightly untrustworthy popcon for Ubuntu.