[00:00] <emanuel> xlogik, I understand that KVM will give me the best performance because it's running in the closest ring and since my Windows 8 environment is already slow I need all the performance I can muster. Either way I have to reinstall the OS
[00:01] <scorpio18> Ìû
[00:02] <emanuel> OerHeks, do I want to download the server or desktop ISO?
[00:02] <xlogik> emanuel, It all depends on your hardware... Do you have the basic system requirements to run Win8? You will need atleast twice the basic requirements to run a stable VM
[00:03] <emanuel> xlogik, It's an i5 with 4gb ram so I am sure it more  than meets the basic requirements.
[00:07] <xlogik> emanuel, Ram maybe your issue see if you can use more swap space in the VM
[00:09] <cheetah100> nzoss
[00:10] <nahtnam> Hey! I want to install this theme: http://snwh.org/paper/ on my laptop. I downloaded and installed the daily ppa's build. I dont know how to enable the theme now.
[00:10] <scorpio18> Ìû
[00:10] <murphyslawbbs> Hi there.. I'm hitting this bug "https://bugs.launchpad.net/uvtool/+bug/1408833" which comes with a proposed fix to install a kernel "linux-image-3.18.0-14-generic_3.18.0-14.15+lp1408833_amd64.deb", but on installing that kernel on my utopic (kernel 3.16.0-31-generic) it fails to boot. should I update my system to unstable or testing first? Also, what are the unstable or testin trees on ubuntu? More used to debian...
[00:13] <emanuel> xlogik, since the issue is not with a vm I don't think swap is an issue. I was thinking switching to a vm would solve 2 issues at once
[00:13] <OerHeks> nahtnam, after install, maybe you need to logout/login again to make the theme selectable?
[00:14] <OerHeks> in systemsettings>appearance
[00:14] <nahtnam> OerHeks: Will try in a sec.
[00:14] <nahtnam> Im using the default appearance thing for 14.04. Not sure if its gnome or unity
[00:14] <scorpio18> Ìû
[00:15] <k1l> scorpio18: please stop that
[00:16] <RudeViper> whenever I run the software center and try to install something I get this error: Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name, {'name': ":1.14}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages    message..How do I fix this?
[00:16] <xlogik> emanuel, Go with you gut! We learn through trial and error. Make sure you've backed-up any personal files.
[00:18] <OerHeks> RudeViper, what happens when you run update from terminal?
[00:18] <RudeViper> just ran update and upgrade fine - haven't tried to install from terminal yet
[00:20] <emanuel> xlogik, backup already done. I hope I downloaded the right ISO it says AMD but it's an Intel CPU
[00:20] <nahtnam> OerHeks: Didnt work
[00:20] <nahtnam> Im not sure if I am using unity or gnome
[00:20] <RudeViper> ok it seems to run via terminal - guess it must be the software
[00:20] <nahtnam> Im just using the defaullt for 14.04 OerHeks
[00:22] <OerHeks> nahtnam, then that theme is not really compatible i guess, contact the theme maintainer?
[00:22] <nahtnam> OerHeks: I had to use unity tweak tool
[00:23] <nahtnam> it works now
[00:31] <zerozone> hey guys
[00:32] <zerozone> was wondering how to deal with this massive amount of netstat
[00:34] <nullfaith> Is there still no soultion to bluetooth not working with rt8723be? I am hunting online and cannot find anything good.
[00:38] <nullfaith> solution*
[00:43] <RudeViper> ok it looks like somehow I have lost all my permissions - tried to mount an had and I am told I don't have authorization to do that... How do I fix that? btw - sudo in terminal works - this is only on the gui this is happening
[00:44] <RudeViper> had=hdd
[00:51] <bugtraq> hi
[00:51] <bugtraq_> hi
[00:55] <bugtraq> hi
[00:55] <samildanach> hey
[00:56] <rodrigo-zayit> hi folks
[00:56] <samildanach> I don't think I've ever been in a channel with so many names, but no immediate blast people mid-communication
[01:07] <BobbyJenkins> Hello, I have 3 set of questions, but I will get started with my first: How do I enable the scroll wheel on my mouse? I tried searching the forums but didn't have much luck...
[01:08] <AdoIRC> it should be enabled by default. it was with mine
[01:08] <AdoIRC> what version are you using?
[01:08] <BobbyJenkins> Ubuntu 14.04
[01:09] <BobbyJenkins> I am using a USB Mouse
[01:09] <AdoIRC> that one's not very stable anyway. so i don't know what to tell you
[01:09] <BobbyJenkins> oh sorry, I just realized I worded the question incorrectly. When I clicked on the scroll wheel usually on Windows I was able to quickly skim down a page and what not, instead it doesn't do that, it usually sends me back to the previous page I was viewing
[01:10] <AdoIRC> what app are you using?
[01:10] <BobbyJenkins> any general app? Firefox, Word, etc...
[01:10] <AdoIRC> so all apps
[01:10] <BobbyJenkins> yes
[01:11] <AdoIRC> what do you mean by "going to the previous page"
[01:11] <BobbyJenkins> when I click on the middle scroll button it doesn't do anything but send me back to a previous page
[01:11] <AdoIRC> of what. browser? pdf viewer?
[01:12] <BobbyJenkins> yes
[01:12] <BobbyJenkins> all apps
[01:13] <BobbyJenkins> actually nvm, I found out that on Firefox it is called autoscrolling
[01:15] <Bray9082_> Can someone explain to me why the file only copied over when I was root https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5cb66d72cfb1d11893a0
[01:15] <RudeViper> how do you stop the unity desktop?
[01:15] <ubuntu089> Could someone Help me.. Im trying to run steamcmd under ubuntu 14.10 Wine
[01:15] <BobbyJenkins> Second Question: I have a 3 monitor setup, how do I make my center monitor my main monitor, where all the notifs, login screen, and pretty much everything is always there first?
[01:16] <ubuntu089> everytime i login to steam anonymous and try get app_update 258550 -beta experimental It starts the download and crashes im guess window vanishes
[01:17] <ubuntu089> They dont support linux anymore so i was gonna give it a shot at wine see what happens
[01:18] <drose379> Hey guys, anyone have a problem on a thinkpad where the machine doesnt wake from suspend when you open the lid after a while?
[01:18] <AdoIRC> don't expect software to run perfect in wine. also try running it through the terminal and see what output is given (like an error of some sort)
[01:18] <AdoIRC> ubuntu089:
[01:19] <blankspace> yeah I play LoL on wine and it is shitty
[01:19] <ubuntu089> How you do that.. i half to read alot just to get where im at..
[01:19] <TheXenith> Hello! I've been using Autodesk SketchBook on Windows, does anyone know of a good animation program (hopefully that works well with graphics tablets) on Ubuntu?
[01:19] <ubuntu089> its a VPS server im trying ive used putty add in the desktop and vnc so i can view it..
[01:20] <Doctor_Nick> How do i disable accessing the hard drive cache in ubuntu? (not the RAM cache, but the disk buffer on the drive itself)
[01:20] <blankspace> no idea sorry
[01:23] <daftykins> ubuntu089: VPSs belong headless
[01:23] <Bray9082_> Can someone explain to me why the file only copied over when I was root https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5cb66d72cfb1d11893a0
[01:24] <ubuntu089> well can i run wine /theroottothe/steamcmd.exe in the putty console?
[01:24] <teward> Bray9082_: check the user and group ownership on that backup folder
[01:24] <Guest86816> hello
[01:25] <Guest86816> who is there
[01:25] <teward> Bray9082_: you'll see that root:root owns it, without using sudo it won't copy over since the drive and folder(s) are likely owned by 'root'
[01:25] <Guest86816> what is IRC
[01:25] <letstrythis> are there new dvd rw libs or drivers i should download? it no longer see's dvd's not even the one i originally installed from, it doesn't boot either...i've tried 2 dvd drives, erase and writes fail?
[01:26] <SchrodingersScat> !irc | Guest86816
[01:26] <Guest86816> is there someone can speak chinese
[01:26] <ubuntu089> fixme:winhttp:get_system_proxy_autoconfig_url no support on this platform i got this running it through putty console with wine
[01:26] <SchrodingersScat> !cn | Guest86816
[01:27] <nak_> Having some intermittent graphical issues. Sometimes after boot, the login screen shows weird/inverted colors. Sometimes it corrects itself before I can login, sometimes it goes away as soon as I login, and other times it actually persists to the desktop session. Also, it sometimes happens after the screen locks and I resume my session. Pictures here: http://imgur.com/a/06iAB#alKYljS
[01:29] <nak_> ATI HD 6850 card, so nothing new,  currently using the open source drivers. It goes away when if I use fglrx, but that opens up another can of worms (hangs on shutdown/boot, tearing, etc.)
[01:29] <daftykins> nak_: could your card be going faulty?
[01:29] <Guest86816> i am a new user
[01:30] <daftykins> Guest86816: type "/join #ubuntu-cn"
[01:31] <Bray9082_> teward: chown doesn't seem to be working
[01:31] <Bray9082_> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f2b06e993709ea997385
[01:32] <Guest86816> there is nobody in  #ubuntu-cn
[01:32] <daftykins> Guest86816: no users, or nobody speaks?
[01:32] <Guest86816> no users
[01:32] <letstrythis>   okay? /tmp/kde-frack320" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0   --- just ran k3b via sudo....wth is this?
[01:32] <daftykins> Guest86816: that's a lie, i just joined and there are plenty
[01:33] <teward> Bray9082_: well, it's mounted - a chown won't help, you'll need to mount it with uid and gid options during mounting to define user/group ownership
[01:33] <kmyst> hey, what's the deal with 14.04 and default locales? i just installed 64-bit desktop 14.04.2 using english and got a bunch of extra locales now...bug?
[01:33] <letstrythis> guest make sure you type it right
[01:33] <Guest86816> i don't know
[01:33] <Bray9082_> "/join #ubuntu-cn"
[01:33] <teward> Bray9082_: and i'm assuming it's not a Linux-specific filesystem (i.e. ext4), and either NTFS or FAT, right?  That can't support linux style group/user ownerships
[01:33] <RudeViper> ugh guiess I have to reinstall AGAIN
[01:34] <daftykins> RudeViper: what've you broken now?
[01:34] <Bray9082_> teward: it's a QNAP formated with EXT4
[01:34] <Bray9082_> What I am actually trying to do it get the thing mounted on boot
[01:34] <Guest86816> if i am   error
[01:34] <RudeViper> can't run anything through the software center - and now the gui won't show up - was using xfce and tried to go to unity and all I get now is a black screen
[01:35] <cptn_drake> hi guys, newbie here, what is the path to the human readable content of a flash drive. I know the computer has named it UNTITLED, which is /dev/sdb, but how do I ls the contents in UNTITLED? Thanks
[01:35] <RudeViper> just rebooted - waiting to see if I det a deskto[p
[01:35] <Bray9082_> teward: Get it mounted on boot and have it writeable
[01:36] <promet> Hai! If I've got my network traffic proxied via Tor (which causes no end of trouble these days it seems), would that same proxy config apply to the "virtual" NIC of a virtual machine? That is, would VM traffic be unproxied, or would the virtual NIC also have to abide by that meta-proxy rule?
[01:36] <daftykins> RudeViper: test the guest session
[01:36] <RudeViper> typed in password and it says failed to star session
[01:37] <promet> There are an increasing number of network complications I'm having, that I'm increasingly beginning to realize, are, probably, attributed to the fact that I Tor proxy most of my network traffic.
[01:37] <Guest86816> if i am wrong
[01:37] <promet> Please don't make me boot into Windoze...
[01:38] <Guest86816> i see "john" and "ping" in "ubuntu -cn"
[01:39] <daftykins> promet: i have to say that doing that is pretty loopy.
[01:39] <RudeViper> daftykins yeah - logins got gorked somehow scrapping server version - gonna use desktop till i get everything configured - then I will find a way to kill gui if I need to
[01:39] <daftykins> RudeViper: yeah, 'sudo service lightdm stop' :P
[01:39] <RudeViper> that works on unity?
[01:40] <promet> daftykins, doing what, precisely?
[01:41] <letstrythis> fracking great
[01:41] <Bray9082_> teward: I was told earlier that this should make it writeable
[01:41] <Bray9082_> sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/backup /media/backup -o username=admin,password=771774
[01:42] <john_Connor007> hello
[01:42] <letstrythis> hmm
[01:42] <daftykins> promet: TOR use in general, bit too paranoid for me :> and slowing everything down
[01:42] <john_Connor007> ok thank you
[01:42] <john_Connor007> i can join ubuntu-cn now
[01:43] <monk12_> hey all, whenever i log into Ubuntu (just installed), it freezes. I vaguely remember either Unity being the problem (if so how can i switch it?) or installing bumblebee-nvidia drivers (if i do this, how can i even get on the network if i cant get into the GUI and when i log into command line, ifconfig only has the loopback and  not my wired ethernet connection so i cant run apt-get)?
[01:43] <promet> daftykins, I hear you, but...different strokes...I guess, yeah?
[01:43] <daftykins> if you say so
[01:44] <letstrythis> monk12_: what does lspci give you, does it see your nic?
[01:45] <r0ach> this is a strange question, but I ran into a Japanese guy that used some kind of device to measure the way Maxwell Nvidia GPUs render the desktop, and he noticed only fully 3d hardware acceleated *full screen* apps rendered at fast speed (like win8), and a desktop like Win7 non-aero gave you more sluggish mouse movement
[01:45] <monk12_> hey letstrythis, i do see 'Intel Corp Ethernet Connection I217-LM' and 'Network Controller: Intel Corp Wireless 7260' when i run that.
[01:45] <r0ach> so my question is, what Linux desktop environments are the least likely to have this issue with Maxwell
[01:46]  * wfpkhc wonders on in
[01:46] <wfpkhc> eeep thats better
[01:46] <wfpkhc> hello everyone
[01:46]  * wfpkhc wonders if anyone is alive
[01:46] <DTaz> i am
[01:46] <DTaz> Hello
[01:46] <wfpkhc> hello
[01:46] <wfpkhc> do you know much about ubuntu?
[01:47] <promet> daftykins, It's also pretty interesting to see the nature of the way the Internet is reacting to Tor though. It's an interesting bellwether though
[01:47] <wfpkhc> promet i dont understand what you mean - how its reactive?
[01:47] <promet> double "though" = 6 points!
[01:47] <DTaz> I am learning however i am picking it up really fast  i love using command words i need to study more
[01:47] <wfpkhc> do you have a nvidia geforce 750 ti card?
[01:48] <daftykins> wfpkhc: what's your support question? 750 Ti not booting the installer?
[01:48] <DTaz> no i have radron hd 7340
[01:48] <letstrythis> good so they are in working order...can you manually give it an ip address? is the wifi on? my laptop has a touch button, it lights up...i often mistakenly turn it off by touching it
[01:48] <DTaz> radeon
[01:48] <wfpkhc> do you know much about ubuntu daftykins
[01:48] <daftykins> wfpkhc: a little ;) what's up?
[01:48] <wfpkhc> when i try and use iso on a pen stick
[01:48] <daftykins> yes...
[01:49] <daftykins> feel free to type more words per sentence
[01:49] <wfpkhc> it loads in but the video drives do not work
[01:49] <promet> wfpkhc, I think, after having messed around with Tor over the last few years (emphasis on "messed around", I'm no authority) that, increasingly, sites are requiring captchas and other mechanisms to requests that are coming from known tor router ips
[01:49] <daftykins> wfpkhc: yes there is no driver in 14.04 or 14.10 for a 750 Ti yet
[01:49] <wfpkhc> promet, oh ok - i dont use tor but it was good information - thank you
[01:49] <letstrythis> lol
[01:49] <promet> wfpkhc, so, when i say "reacting", I'm referring to how web admins are detecting Tor traffic
[01:50] <wfpkhc> omg :( that sucks daftykins
[01:50] <daftykins> wfpkhc: you have to either add a PPA with a newer driver, or download the one from the nvidia site
[01:50] <promet> wfpkhc, right on
[01:50] <wfpkhc> the problem is daftykins is how can i install a driver when i cannot see the screen!
[01:50] <daftykins> promet: sorry but your chat is off topic and this is an ubuntu support channel only, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[01:50] <daftykins> !nomodeset | wfpkhc boot with this.
[01:50] <daftykins> that'll get you sorted.
[01:51] <promet> daftykins, roger that, signing off...
[01:51] <wfpkhc> why cant it just work?
[01:51] <monk12_> letstrythis: hmm i dont think so...the wifi button doesnt seem to do anything on the Lenovo W540 i have...  i dont see any eth# interface in my /etc/network/interfaces. just loopback
[01:51] <RudeViper> anyone know how much ram I need to assign and integrated video catd for unity to work?
[01:51] <wfpkhc> and how long until they support those cards?
[01:51] <wfpkhc> and is it bad if booted to the pen drive? will it wreck my hardware?
[01:51] <daftykins> wfpkhc: because nvidia implemented things that break current open source support
[01:52] <daftykins> wfpkhc: ok, we install software in packages from repositories... the current Ubuntu repositories or 'repos' do not have a new enough driver, that's all. the driver is available, it's fine
[01:52] <wfpkhc> :( not cool - are they able to get around that?
[01:52] <daftykins> did you read the bit where i said you either add a PPA (which is a repo) or download the driver from nvidia? :)
[01:53] <monk12_> letstrythis: so when GRUB started... i went to recovery mode to get into teh command line... should i have gone into another mode/command line args to get internet?
[01:53]  * wfpkhc gives a sad look at daftykins so imply he doesnt know what ppa is
[01:53] <daftykins> A REPO
[01:53] <daftykins> !ppa
[01:54] <daftykins> anyway your main task is to use 'nomodeset' to boot ubuntu and install it first, then you can look at installing a newer nvidia driver
[01:54] <wfpkhc> so how do i go about putting an nvidia driver on a pen stick with http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[01:55] <wfpkhc> and is it bad if booted to the pen drive? will it wreck my hardware?
[01:55] <rypervenche> wfpkhc: I believe this is the PPA you need; https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia (just did a quick google search)
[01:55] <al_nz1> any able to help me?
[01:55] <wfpkhc> rypervenche, but how do i get to install it if i cannot see the screen?
[01:55] <al_nz1> ubuntu fails to start (flashing cursor on black screen)
[01:55] <al_nz1> I can get to grub
[01:55] <al_nz1> and drop to command line
[01:56] <rypervenche> wfpkhc: When you boot up, you have to set the nomodeset option. Please read what daftykins sent you on the subject.
[01:56] <al_nz1> but sudo service lightdm gives "start: job failed to start"
[01:56] <daftykins> wfpkhc: you don't, you boot the flash drive with nomodeset as i linked above.
[01:56] <letstrythis> monk12_: i don't think recovery has internet- i'm not sure....
[01:56] <daftykins> al_nz1: can you boot a live session? any changes made recently?
[01:56] <al_nz1> daftykins: I dont reboot often
[01:56] <wfpkhc> this link?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132   - if so that didnt work - the images are broken
[01:57] <al_nz1> I do suspect its graphics related
[01:57] <monk12_> letstrythis: at the password login screen, do i enter Control+Alt+F2 to get to the command line?
[01:57] <monk12_> i read that somewhere, but not sure that command seq is working. let me try agian
[01:57] <letstrythis> yes monk12_
[01:57] <al_nz1> daftykins: I go into ubuntu recovery : then straight to console
[01:57] <daftykins> al_nz1: tried an older kernel?
[01:57] <wfpkhc> and is it bad if booted to the pen drive? will it wreck my hardware?
[01:57] <al_nz1> daftykins: then is when I tried to start lightdm
[01:58] <daftykins> wfpkhc: of course not, it's just software
[01:58] <daftykins> al_nz1: try checking if there's anything up with your hard disk perhaps?
[01:58] <wfpkhc> k even if the video card displays with red lines?
[01:58] <desrt> daftykins: bad assumption ;)
[01:58] <letstrythis> did you notice in gui mode if the nic or wifi are "enabled"?
[01:58] <al_nz1> daftykins: i am pretty sure disk ok
[01:58] <daftykins> desrt: which one specifically - also why don't you help instead of second guess?
[01:58] <desrt> daftykins: that software cannot harm hardware
[01:59] <desrt> also: no need to get your back up
[01:59] <daftykins> well yeah i do know of situations where it can but spare me the interruption please
[01:59] <letstrythis> ^ xD
[01:59] <wfpkhc> so what your saying is that i have to boot
[01:59] <daftykins> al_nz1: perhaps read the Xorg log to see what's up?
[01:59] <wfpkhc> and when it askes me to run live version i need to press f6
[01:59] <al_nz1> daftykins: present with the 3 or so kernels I tried
[01:59] <daftykins> wfpkhc: again, stop pressing enter so much =|
[02:00] <wfpkhc> sorry
[02:00] <monk12_> letstrythis: yes the wireless is enabled in the GUI be4 i log. hmmm Control+Alt+F# isn't working
[02:00] <letstrythis> monk12_:  ctrl alt f7 gets you back to gui xD
[02:00] <al_nz1> daftykins reinstall lightdm?
[02:01] <daftykins> al_nz1: you can if you want but that's not what i suggested
[02:01] <monk12_> letstrythis:  but like i cant even get into text mode with Control+Alt+F1. so i dont need to use Control+Alt+F7 cause the former doesn't work.
[02:01] <letstrythis> there is aloso "networking" must be enabled
[02:01] <al_nz1> daftykins: I tried the other kernels?
[02:01] <letstrythis> okay, strange
[02:01] <daftykins> al_nz1: so what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[02:01] <wfpkhc> so why isnt ubuntu rushing to solve this problem in the mean time?
[02:02] <letstrythis> are there any wifi spots listed?
[02:02] <daftykins> wfpkhc: because it wasn't one they created, there ARE solutions, and not everyone owns a 750 Ti...
[02:02] <monk12_> nope just my house.
[02:02] <wfpkhc> :(
[02:02] <wfpkhc> so because im a minority im being persecuted
[02:02] <letstrythis> click it
[02:02] <daftykins> wfpkhc: i genuinely hope you're joking right now, because these are really stupid comments
[02:02] <monk12_> letstrythis: its already connected it says.
[02:02] <daftykins> anyway it'll be fixed in 15.04 out next month
[02:03] <wfpkhc> sorry
[02:03] <wfpkhc> nice :D
[02:03] <wfpkhc> sorry about enters
[02:03] <daftykins> but 15.04 isn't long term support
[02:03] <letstrythis> what's the ip in connection info?
[02:03] <al_nz1> daftykins: ok - now we are getting somewhere
[02:03] <monk12_> i just cant do anything with it hehe. i cant get to a terminal to update nvidia drivers or switch away from unity.
[02:04] <al_nz1> daftykins: failed to initalize Nvidia kernel module. I know alot of people will ask why I am running proprietry Nvidia drivers, but I had to for a program. RIght now however I would be happy just to get back to my desktop
[02:04] <monk12_> letstrythis: says <IP_ADDRESS> etc in details.
[02:04] <monk12_> using wlan0 interface
[02:04] <daftykins> al_nz1: you're 100% you use nvidia? "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit"
[02:05] <daftykins> you might have to remount / read-write to install that package
[02:06] <al_nz1> daftykins: well I think its still also trying to load nouveau
[02:06] <al_nz1> daftykins: which is bad obviously
[02:06] <daftykins> it will do as a fallback
[02:06] <daftykins> this is how X works
[02:06] <letstrythis> xD i get that and i'm still  connected haha...try manually changeing its ip in edit, to the ip on your active pc/connection your on now...just make sure the last x.x.x.99 is different and not likely what is being used by others
[02:07] <wfpkhc> may i ask because i do not understand the tutorial
[02:08] <daftykins> ask what?
[02:08] <al_nz1> daftykins: sorry, what are those commands?
[02:08] <wfpkhc> with nomodeset after i select try without installing (f6) i can then install the driver for nvideo?
[02:08] <wfpkhc> nvidia
[02:08] <daftykins> al_nz1: one is installing a command which 'pastebins', the other is pastebinning whether you have any packages installed with 'nvidia' in the name
[02:09] <daftykins> wfpkhc: read the nomodeset link earlier, it explains all this. you boot with nomodeset so you can install, then you boot the install... then you install the driver.
[02:09] <al_nz1> daftykins: it wont install pastebinits
[02:09] <al_nz1> yes I do have several nvidia packages
[02:09] <daftykins> al_nz1: yes but i want to see first hand.
[02:09] <al_nz1> hmm
[02:10] <wfpkhc> i read this link but the images dont work - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[02:10] <daftykins> why won't it install?
[02:10] <al_nz1> without pastebinits - hwo about a screenie?
[02:10] <daftykins> i thought you had no working GUI
[02:10] <wfpkhc> i dont want to isntall to a hard drive i want to run it from pen drive
[02:10] <daftykins> wfpkhc: then you'll have to make your flash drive up with persistence
[02:10] <al_nz1> daftykins: using my camera phone
[02:10] <letstrythis> ^ my bro's pc has an  nvidia mx 440 agp...only 12 worked, he fawked the cds and is stuck w/14.10 at blank screen, so i'm saving this and hope it helps ^^
[02:10] <wfpkhc> what is a good persistence size?
[02:11] <daftykins> >4GB
[02:11] <wfpkhc> omg that would take forever to write too on a pen drive!
[02:11] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[02:11] <daftykins> you're either a troll or have no idea what i'm saying
[02:11] <wfpkhc> no honest
[02:11] <wfpkhc> i have tried the persistance with this -- wait ill get link
[02:12] <daftykins> al_nz1: well just run "dpkg l | grep nvidia" and see if you have a nvidia-304, or nvidia-331 etc.
[02:12] <wfpkhc> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/   - and i tell it over 1gb and it takes forever when shutting down
[02:12] <letstrythis> 4gb is nothing for usb 2.0+
[02:12] <daftykins> and this is why we don't run from a flash drive :)
[02:12] <cortex> hi
[02:13] <monk12_> letstrythis: hmmm the screen turned black be4 i could modify hehe. whats the point though in messing with the connection if in the end i still need to end up on the command line and thats iffy?
[02:13] <wfpkhc> and the information says only 128mb - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[02:13] <letstrythis> ew, the manual settings stick after reboot
[02:14] <al_nz1> daftykins: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kdtap3cl38kh152/2015-03-17%2015.14.09.jpg?dl=0
[02:14] <pc-moon> hello, wish all doing fine ,i have problem after boot with linux when try to see loading logo after select live from the list didt see the loading , i think my problem with define of the vga card , my card is geforce
[02:14] <letstrythis> crazy how many issues 14 has
[02:14] <wfpkhc> so really i just have to wait in essence really till next month and it will be fixed anyway right?
[02:14] <daftykins> !nomodeset | pc-moon try this
[02:14]  * wfpkhc hugs daftykins
[02:14] <wfpkhc> thanks for help i have to go
[02:15] <pc-moon> ok ill try
[02:15] <daftykins> al_nz1: mmm, so maybe you could reinstall the nvidia-304
[02:15] <letstrythis> afk,  gonna try to burn 12.04 in windows since my ubuntu thinks i'm user1000
[02:16] <al_nz1> daftykins: I do know that I had 340.something working
[02:16] <al_nz1> daftykins: is 304 stablish?
[02:16] <daftykins> al_nz1: that screen would disprove that
[02:16] <daftykins> yeah it's fine, depends what card you have really
[02:16] <al_nz1> daftykins: GTS470
[02:17] <monk12_> letstrythis: i thik I can go into recovery console and theres a popup that says 'Enable Networking'. im gonna try that.
[02:17] <al_nz1> daftykins: are some diver/card matches better than others?
[02:17] <letstrythis> go for it
[02:17] <daftykins> you just tend to need a newer driver for newer cards
[02:17] <monk12_> i think i got eth0 wireless working now :), shows up in ifconfig.
[02:17] <monk12_> wlan0 i mean
[02:17] <letstrythis> word
[02:17] <daftykins> al_nz1: anyway, do you have working networking there? this is a desktop yes?
[02:17] <al_nz1> daftykins: yes
[02:17] <al_nz1> daftykins: yes I have net
[02:18] <daftykins> al_nz1: so "sudo mount -o remount,rw /" then "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-304" then reboot
[02:18] <pc-moon> i cant understand this tutorial its hard to me
[02:19] <letstrythis> unknown package is what i get with nvidia-304 xD
[02:19] <al_nz1> daftykins: doing....
[02:19] <daftykins> letstrythis: that's nice.
[02:20] <letstrythis> i wonder if it works for others tho, do i need to get repos or something? i see it in aptitude
[02:20] <daftykins> letstrythis: are you talking to me?
[02:21] <FreezingCold> Huh, I can't seem to get my Ubuntu chroot to work
[02:21] <letstrythis> yea, similar issue
[02:21] <FreezingCold> sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd lucid ~/ubuntu-lucid/ http://mirror.its.dal.ca/ubuntu/
[02:21] <daftykins> letstrythis: well you can't just suddenly run commands i say when i haven't even been speaking to you :)
[02:21] <FreezingCold> sudo chroot ubuntu-lucid
[02:21] <al_nz1> daftykins: if this works - your a legend!
[02:21] <FreezingCold> groups: cannot find name for group ID 19
[02:21] <FreezingCold> groups: cannot find name for group ID 90
[02:21] <FreezingCold> root@misalliances:/# ls
[02:21] <FreezingCold> bash: ls: command not found
[02:21] <letstrythis> xD
[02:22] <letstrythis> daftykins: i'm takeing notes just incase i can't burn 12 for my bro's old medion p4 with nvidia 440mx agp
[02:23] <daftykins> P4 =|
[02:23] <daftykins> you'd want to run xubuntu on an antique like that
[02:23] <letstrythis> yes pentium 4 xD
[02:23] <daftykins> or preferably, go out into the garden... dig a hole, and bury that thing
[02:23] <letstrythis> yea i did, it worked, but he wanted flash
[02:23] <daftykins> just kidding - proper electronics recycling is best
[02:24] <daftykins> xubuntu doesn't preclude flash from working
[02:24] <letstrythis> lol if it works they are good pc's
[02:24] <daftykins> mmmm nope
[02:24] <letstrythis> i've been using my p4 for years now
[02:25] <al_nz1> daftykins: YOUR ARE A LEGEND!
[02:25] <al_nz1> daftykins: THANKS
[02:25]  * al_nz1 buys daftykins a beer
[02:25] <letstrythis> nomoeset worked?
[02:25] <daftykins> \o/
[02:25] <daftykins> no the driver reinstall provoked DKMS to rebuild a module for the running kernel
[02:26] <daftykins> that's what was up i think.
[02:26] <al_nz1> daftykins: is there a safe way to test these drivers?
[02:27] <daftykins> err
[02:27] <daftykins> install mesa-utils and run glxgears i guess :)
[02:28] <cortex> this nigth is so special tome
[02:30] <letstrythis> daftykins: that might work on my bro's pc...installer keeps saying the cache is in use, and pkg lock is not accesable...so that is why he had to mount -o etc? rw?
[02:30] <daftykins> no
[02:32] <letstrythis> saved it to try later
[02:32] <al_nz1> daftykins: hey so while your on a roll......
[02:33] <daftykins> uh-oh
[02:33] <daftykins> letstrythis: no, it's completely irrelevant. you can't just throw commands at situations and hope O_O
[02:34] <letstrythis> =/ but it's the same issue just different pc  and card
[02:35] <letstrythis> i will try nomodeset first
[02:35] <daftykins> what you just said about package lock doesn't necessarily have ANYTHING to do with root being mounted read only
[02:35] <daftykins> (unless you're booted to recovery)
[02:35] <letstrythis> ah
[02:35] <daftykins> al_nz1: so what's going on? you're killing me with suspense here)
[02:35] <daftykins> -)
[02:36] <al_nz1> daftykins: I am trying to run a script which wants to start its own mini servers on various common ports, like 80, 445 etc. For some of these ports other servers are running (Apache, pure-ftpd, avachi, smbd) - should I just kill the process or stop it? or?
[02:36] <daftykins> letstrythis: why don't you state the actual issue instead of trying to retrofit my advice here? :)
[02:36] <daftykins> al_nz1: to free up those ports? you would stop the services of the daemons that are holding them
[02:36] <daftykins> or reconfigure the script to use others
[02:37] <al_nz1> daftykins: and to check what daemon on what port - with netstat?
[02:37] <daftykins> i think it would be a far more sensible use of time to edit the script
[02:39] <letstrythis> daftykins: it's a new ubuntu 14.10 install on a p4...with 512mb of ram...xubuntu12 ran just fine...What do i do with this pc, that only has command line right now? 14.10 ubuntu
[02:40] <letstrythis> we ran aptitude last night from the harddrive in command prompt and re-installed nvidia-304
[02:40] <letstrythis> now it has a blinking dot
[02:40] <al_nz1> daftykins: hmm, some ports it says have "error starting server on 88" but nothing is showing on 88 in netstat?
[02:41] <al_nz1> daftykins: is there another way to check ports for services?
[02:41] <letstrythis> daftykins: your saying what i have to do is different from other similar issues?
[02:46] <pilsnerpopper> what channel is for ubuntu support?
[02:46] <compdoc> this one
[02:46] <compdoc> for current versions
[02:48] <daftykins> al_nz1: perhaps you need to run the script with sudo or something, don't know
[02:49] <daftykins> letstrythis: no i'm saying what i was helping with right now doesn't necessarily match up exactly with that
[02:49] <unperson> If I want to partition an ssd as just one big partition (will mount /var, /tmp, and swap on an hdd), is there any reason to prefer one type of partition table over another?
[02:49] <daftykins> letstrythis: you don't eavesdrop on a doctor giving someone else advice to find out what to do, when you're sick, do you? :)
[02:50] <daftykins> unperson: GPT is for EFI systems, MBR for legacy
[02:50] <unperson> daftykins: you mean UEFI?
[02:50] <rypervenche> al_nz1: Ports 1 through 1023 require root permissions to have a process bound to it. So you would need sudo for it to work on those ports.
[02:50] <daftykins> they mean the same thing actually.
[02:51] <rypervenche> "al_nz1: sudo netstat -plunt" or "sudo lsof -i | grep LISTEN"
[02:51] <al_nz1> rypervenche: yes - agreed, I am running the script as sudo
[02:51] <unperson> After reading all this stuff about e.g. partition alignment I'm just a little paranoid that there's some nuance I'm not getting.
[02:52] <rypervenche> al_nz1: If something is already using that port, then you will need to first stop it, and probably disable it from starting at boot.
[02:53] <letstrythis> daftykins: ty...is there some way i can get here from the command line so i can get specific help while on the other pc?
[02:53] <daftykins> are they not close together or something?
[02:54] <daftykins> unperson: sounds like you're overthinking it, plus swap is fine on SSD
[02:54] <drose379> Would it be bad to leave a machine on in suspend mode overnight?
[02:55] <letstrythis> separate rooms, i need to ask him if i can move it over here for proper troubleshooting....but it would be nice not to have to move it xD
[02:55] <daftykins> bed now, nn
[02:56] <letstrythis> ssd is much faster then most hds and is wat should have swap on it i think
[02:56] <letstrythis> kk
[02:56] <pilsnerpopper> just recently switched to an ssd, noticeably faster especially on boot
[02:58] <compdoc> SSDs are great
[02:58] <letstrythis> unperson: you may save a buncha trouble making it one partition on the ssd relevent to your system...if its a new pc / laptop i'm not sure mbr's work
[02:58] <daftykins> yes they do
[02:58] <daftykins> !fud | letstrythis
[02:59] <letstrythis> you said they were the same daftykins  xD
[02:59] <daftykins> EFI and UEFI i said are the same
[02:59] <daftykins> pro tip, to comment on my statements - you have to read them first.
[02:59] <letstrythis> i did and i think unperson is just as confused
[02:59] <samildanach> So, I have a weird graphics issue
[03:00]  * compdoc covers daftykins statements so no one can read them
[03:00] <samildanach> I'll start by saying that I have intel stuff, and their driver updater doesn't work on 14.10, so it's probably just that
[03:00] <letstrythis> lol
[03:00] <daftykins> letstrythis: nevermind, i'm going to bed so your lunacy can't frustrate me any longer :)
[03:00] <samildanach> but if anyone thinks there's a solution besides waiting for their next updater, I can elaborate
[03:00] <letstrythis> i'll just shut up and not try to be helpful at all
[03:00] <daftykins> letstrythis: good plan.
[03:01] <letstrythis> xD go sleep fool
[03:01] <compdoc> bedtime for me too
[03:01] <daftykins> letstrythis: i mean it, you're clearly not versed in this stuff so please don't try and help people when you don't know.
[03:02] <letstrythis> yea i'll try to learn somehow
[03:02] <letstrythis> But sometimes any response at all, keeps the flow so others can chime in with corrections and tell me to shut up xD
[03:03] <daftykins> no you're just harming it. back off
[03:04] <letstrythis> roger
[03:05] <letstrythis> goes back to googleing ubuntu doesn't see dvd or boot or write to/from dvd from previously useable dvd
[03:07] <Bray9082_> Would this work if I added it to fstab
[03:07] <Bray9082_> /<IP_ADDRESS>/backup /media/backup cifs uid=1000,gid=1000,credentials=/home/aaron/.backupcredentials,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlam 0 0
[03:07] <Bray9082_> "//<IP_ADDRESS>/backup /media/backup cifs uid=1000,gid=1000,credentials=/home/aaron/.backupcredentials,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlam 0 0"
[03:09] <murphyslawbbs> Bray9082_: why not give it a try?
[03:10] <murphyslawbbs> then mount /media/backup and see if it works
[03:10] <murphyslawbbs> unix is trial and error
[03:15] <Bray9082_> murphyslawbbs: I should restate myself I am wondering why it doesn't work
[03:16] <murphyslawbbs> Bray9082_: what is the output? never tried mounting cifs from linux that way myself
[03:16] <kikoo_> I seem to have a problem where my wifi disconnects when I move my laptop around the house. I can't reconnect again, but it's fixed instantly by rebooting Ubuntu. Never experienced this when using Windows.. anyone know what might be wrong?
[03:17] <kikoo_> my wireless router disappears from list of available networks
[03:21] <Bray9082_> murphyslawbbs: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cc638bb77968d24b712e
[03:21] <Bray9082_> it does show up in the unity sidebar tho
[03:21] <al_nz1> rypervenche: Im on a simple workgroup behind a ADSL modem - I should have DNS server set to modem IP?
[03:21] <letstrythis> when i put a blank dvd-rw in drive it detects, a written disk is unseen...when i write it disappears during the burn and fails....help?
[03:22] <eikon81g> kikoo_, I have the same issue when I use torrent clients
[03:22] <eikon81g> click on the network icon uncheck enable network wait 10 seconds and re enable networking and it will re-connect
[03:22] <kikoo_> ok ty, will try that
[03:23] <peter100> ubuntu is a single user os?
[03:23] <eikon81g> no problem. Best of luck
[03:23] <rypervenche> al_nz1: Depends on where you want your DNS server to be.
[03:23] <eikon81g> peter100, on the login screen you can choose another user or login as root
[03:23] <eikon81g> be sure to set ur root pw before trying tho
[03:23] <al_nz1> rypervenche: well there isnt one on the lan - its only a workgroup
[03:23] <al_nz1> rypervenche: so what should it be - or best be?
[03:24] <eikon81g> sudo passwd root < in terminal to set root pw
[03:24] <peter100> ok
[03:24] <peter100> thanks eikon81g
[03:24] <eikon81g> then set it and log out
[03:24] <eikon81g> login as other user input root and newly created pw
[03:25] <peter100> thanks again eikon81g
[03:25] <eikon81g> I am on Xubuntu and I believe I can set up new users
[03:25] <eikon81g> np peter100
[03:26] <ghhofstetter> hello, I followed a guide to fix an audio problem, i removed pulse audio and installed esound, but now after loading i have no audio and half of the settings in "system settings" are gone
[03:26] <eikon81g> ouch..
[03:26] <eikon81g> to get help you need to provide the Ubuntu version and sound device info
[03:26] <eikon81g> and I am trash so I prolly can't help much
[03:27] <eikon81g> ghhofstetter, you are in the right place though
[03:28] <Bray9082_> murphyslawbbs: if I do this in the terminal it mounts but isn't writeable
[03:28] <Bray9082_> sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/backup /media/backup -o username=admin,password=771774
[03:28] <ghhofstetter> i am running ubuntu 14.04 x64 and I was running the typical pulse audio that comes preinstalled on ubuntu
[03:28] <eikon81g> ghhofstetter, what was the original isue?
[03:28] <eikon81g> I don't know that removing pulse audio was the way to go
[03:28] <eikon81g> then again I am not your best bet
[03:29] <al_nz1> rypervenche: should I use my ISP DNS servers?
[03:29] <ghhofstetter> it probably wasnt cause it was the only thing i did before restarting
[03:29] <ghhofstetter> so it was obviously what cause this current state.....
[03:29] <rypervenche> al_nz1: If you want to. It depends on what you are doing really and what your preferences are.
[03:30] <eikon81g> i would reinstall pulse audio to be honest
[03:30] <eikon81g> and start there.. Was it not outputting audio before?
[03:30] <ghhofstetter> is there any fail safe for ubuntu to reinstall basic system software? or reset settings?
[03:30] <eikon81g> it could have been a setting in pulse ya kno
[03:30] <eikon81g> well in terminal you can re-install pulse audio
[03:30] <eikon81g> I had to
[03:30] <ghhofstetter> naw, there was glitchy audio on skype, followed a youtube video that told me to remove pulse audio and install esound
[03:31] <ghhofstetter> sound works now, but still i got no speaker icon in the top right.... the little icon was my buddy
[03:31] <eikon81g> oh lol
[03:31] <eikon81g> well the audio issue on skype could have been to bandwidth..
[03:31] <eikon81g> you took a drastic approach
[03:32] <eikon81g> Oh ok
[03:32] <ghhofstetter> i tried reinstalling pulse by typing in sudo apt-get install pulseaudio, a few lines go by and then it says 0 installed 0 removed 6 not updated or something like that
[03:32] <eikon81g> ghhofstetter, go into the panel settings and put indicator back
[03:33] <eikon81g> Panel > Panel Preferences > Items
[03:33] <eikon81g> or maybe remove it and add it back.
[03:33] <eikon81g> I think that indicator was part of pulse tho.. so it may not come back
[03:33] <ghhofstetter> where is panel? is it in system settings? cause hahaall of that is gone
[03:34] <eikon81g> on your panel right click (the bar where your time, etc. is)
[03:34] <eikon81g> and go to panel then panel preferences
[03:35] <ghhofstetter> right click does nothing to the bar
[03:35] <eikon81g> humm. Well do you have unity settings anywhere? I run xubuntu so I have xfce
[03:36] <eikon81g> so I may have been misguiding
[03:37] <ghhofstetter> yes, i run unity... I was just hoping if there was a fail safe to jst restore default settings or retore default programs....
[03:38] <al_nz1> how do I check if I am using Netowkr-Manager?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> al_nz1: wich ubuntu version do you have?
[03:38] <eikon81g> you got me ghhofstetter I wish I could help more.. I tried :\
[03:39] <eikon81g> lotuspsychje, is really good
[03:39] <eikon81g> ghhofstetter, there is a way I'm sure.. just need to get the right PrO to help yau
[03:39] <eikon81g> *ya
[03:39] <ghhofstetter> Anyone on reading this right now?
[03:39] <ablegreen> Hi, I need a tool or some sort of system monitor that sits in the background and displays the current ifconfig-like information, the current mount points and their paths, and a list of specific processes. It would nice if it was easily customizable/extendable. Any popular recommendations?
[03:40] <murphyslawbbs> Bray9082_: well I'm thinking it may be user specific as it's cifs
[03:40] <eikon81g> ablegreen, did you browse the software center..?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> ablegreen: i like indicator-multiload
[03:41] <ablegreen> eikon81g: Yeah, just looking for 'recommendations' though
[03:41] <eikon81g> right on
[03:41] <eikon81g> if you find a good one let us know
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> ablegreen: etherape is also nice to see network traffic, GUI
[03:41] <letstrythis> grr i hate finding relevent threads to downloads to fix things and getting 404 errors
[03:41] <murphyslawbbs> Bray9082_: what about specifying user and group as numeric as suggested by google?
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: did you try a sudo apt-get update?
[03:42] <ablegreen> lotuspsychje: Looks good, though I'm looking for something like this: http://cdn.linuxaria.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/glances.png that displays what you want in one place
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> ablegreen: you like it gui or from terminal also?
[03:43] <ablegreen> Preferably terminal
[03:43] <ablegreen> Just a preference though
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> ablegreen: a good starting point is deviantart user desktops on ubuntu/linux and search for monitors and see what they use
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> lemme browse what i can find
[03:44] <ablegreen> Alright.
[03:44] <letstrythis> lotuspsychje: i'm trying to burn new ubuntu, and get ubuntu 14.04 to see my old dvd....oddly enough the old dvd has a folder in media folder
[03:44] <eikon81g> I was gonna say I've seen cool ones on desktops
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> ablegreen: conky can also do this kind of stuff, but more eyecandy
[03:45] <ablegreen> lotuspsychje: heard of it, I'll check it out, thanks.
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !info conky | ablegreen
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: you lost me mate, what has the error 404 to do with burn ubuntu?
[03:47] <ghhofstetter> eikon, i am going through the app center and reinstalling everything the app center recognized i removed.... crossing my fingers
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !info glances | ablegreen here ya go mate
[03:47] <eikon81g> lol I'll cross mine for you too
[03:48] <ablegreen> lotuspsychje: Thanks dude!
[03:48] <orion> Hi. My ubuntu server is currently experiencing extremely high load. ksoftirqd/0 is using a lot of CPU time. I am running nginx + php-fpm on 14.04.
[03:48] <eikon81g> I am going to check it out too
[03:48] <orion> What things can I do to better diagnose the issue?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> orion: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can also point you to right direction
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> orion: have you tryed htop to see whats causing the high cpu?
[03:50] <letstrythis> it was a fix  suggested here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1895338.html
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: have you tryed brasero to burn?
[03:50] <eikon81g> I just tried to install glances and it caused an error in xubuntu
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> eikon81g: what kind of error?
[03:51] <letstrythis> yes,
[03:51] <eikon81g> just said caused an internal error..
[03:51] <orion> lotuspsychje: Looks like I've got about 32 php-fpm instances each consuming a small portion of CPU Time.
[03:51] <ghhofstetter> O, question, I am trying to reinstall : "unity-control-center (14.04.3....)" after accidentally uninstalling it by uninstalling pulseaudio, i cannot find it in the app center
[03:51] <eikon81g> I am not much of a linux person I am learning so I'm not sure
[03:51] <ghhofstetter> does anyone know a terminal command or somehwere where i can get it?
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> eikon81g: working here on ubuntu 14.04 64bit
[03:52] <letstrythis> k3b says the drive permissions are 666 root etc
[03:53] <eikon81g> humm Idk.. I am looking at details now
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: try brasero or make a bootable usb with ubuntu
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> orion: not sure mate, are those suppose to be running 32 times?
[03:53] <letstrythis> the pc i need to install to only ha cd-r and plain dvd
[03:54] <eikon81g> I am on xfce 14.10 setupterm: could not find in terminal
[03:54] <eikon81g> interesting
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: why does the machine have no usb?
[03:54] <letstrythis> it doesn't boot from usb
[03:54] <eikon81g> ahh.. you don't have a boot menu (dell is usually f12)
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: you can download 'plop boot manager' and burn on a dvd to force the pc to boot your usb
[03:55] <eikon81g> NICE
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> nice indeed for older systems :p
[03:55]  * eikon81g bows to lotuspsychje
[03:55] <eikon81g> he's good. Real goosd
[03:55] <eikon81g> *good
[03:55] <letstrythis> i need to get this to burn first
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: try brasero
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !burn | letstrythis
[03:56] <eikon81g> I use K3B
[03:56] <eikon81g> it's not too shabby either
[03:56] <letstrythis> i've been trying to use k3b, but it fails...
[03:57] <eikon81g> oh bummer.
[03:57] <eikon81g> brasero for the win
[03:57] <eikon81g> lol
[03:57] <eikon81g> your image good?
[03:57] <eikon81g> damn cheap dvd's...
[03:57] <eikon81g> lol
[03:57] <letstrythis> even another dvd thats already got ubuntu on it, does not boot or seen when inserted
[03:57] <eikon81g> that's normally my problem
[03:58] <letstrythis> but a blank dvd it sees and attempts to mount
[03:58] <eikon81g> do you have a spare drive?
[03:58] <eikon81g> maybe it's not a software issue ya kno..
[03:58] <letstrythis> i setup another drive same pc same thing
[03:58] <eikon81g> wah wah wah
[03:59] <letstrythis> if the medium is new it should write regardless
[03:59] <eikon81g> i take it the second drive was not usb?
[03:59] <eikon81g> well it may write and fail.. I run into that sometimes
[03:59] <letstrythis> one is in the lappy the other is usb
[03:59] <ghhofstetter> @eikon81g: Fixed it! anytime someone asks for advice like me about how they screwed up uninstalling things, just send them to the app center and have them search and re-intall everything they uninstalled.... just hitting "sudo apt-get remove pulse audio" removed about 9-10 inportant background software that i reinstalled individualy
[04:00] <letstrythis> o.0 ew
[04:00] <eikon81g> right, so is it in an enclosure? and is it 3.5" or the laptop size?
[04:00] <eikon81g> nice ghhofstetter CONGRATS!!
[04:00]  * eikon81g does a dance
[04:00] <ghhofstetter> i do a dance too
[04:00] <eikon81g> lol
[04:00] <letstrythis> it loads yes
[04:00] <eikon81g> "/me dances"
[04:01] <letstrythis> ugh
[04:01] <letstrythis> i'll worry about this later...gonna try winblows to burn it
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: try k3b from terminal, and check what kind of errors you gettin
[04:01] <eikon81g> I dunno, I've had flakey drives before..
[04:01] <letstrythis> ok
[04:01] <eikon81g> good luck friend
[04:03] <letstrythis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10613547/
[04:04] <eikon81g> lotuspsychje, I am trying to run glances out of terminal and I am in the /etc/glances folder but all that is there is glances.conf
[04:04] <eikon81g> where would I run it out of
[04:04] <eikon81g> <noob sorry
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> eikon81g: should work right out of the box from terminal
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> eikon81g: can you man glances ?
[04:05] <eikon81g> letstrythis, --  I will also add that the message "QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave" is completely innocuous and can be safely ignored. It is purely a warning message from Qt.
[04:05] <letstrythis> ok
[04:05] <eikon81g> lotuspsychje, yes
[04:06] <letstrythis> so maybe its cause i'm not root
[04:06] <eikon81g> letstrythis, that was a quick search and I saw people saying that and reboot the machine
[04:06] <letstrythis> i have rebooted with both drives attached
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> eikon81g: then glances should work also, think it might be a xubuntu thing
[04:06] <eikon81g> i think you are right lotuspsychje I reported it with the bug tool
[04:07] <eikon81g> thanks lotuspsychje :)
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[04:07]  * eikon81g pour lotuspsychje a cold one
[04:07] <eikon81g> *pours
[04:07] <letstrythis> how do i make the "burner" group so i can try setting permissions
[04:08] <eikon81g> if it was a permissions issue the program wouldn't run would it?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: wich ubuntu version are you on again?
[04:08] <letstrythis> it would but the drives would have issues
[04:08] <eikon81g> ahh ok
[04:09] <letstrythis> 14.04
[04:09] <letstrythis> one sec
[04:10] <eikon81g> I honestly would ignore that error.. read some of this: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=102251
[04:11] <letstrythis> dev/sr1 666 root
[04:11] <letstrythis> cdrom
[04:11] <letstrythis> same on the other dvd drive
[04:12] <keestu> hi all,  why the debian packages are associated with the 'zero' always exampe: libopusfile0  libogg0   ??
[04:12] <eikon81g> log in as root and try?
[04:12] <letstrythis> how?
[04:12] <eikon81g> set your root pw
[04:12] <eikon81g> sudo passwd root in terminal
[04:12] <eikon81g> set it
[04:12] <eikon81g> and then log out
[04:12] <cfhowlett> !root
[04:13] <eikon81g> I've done this by the way thanks for the info cfhowlett
[04:13] <letstrythis> xD
[04:13] <eikon81g> login using the root account
[04:13] <eikon81g> and you are all ret
[04:13] <eikon81g> *set
[04:13] <eikon81g> then see if you have the issues.. ?
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> keestu: ask in #debian
[04:14] <eikon81g> lotuspsychje,  you know the ubuntu touch channel?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> eikon81g: yes
[04:14] <keestu> lotuspsychje, i realized that and asked. :)
[04:14] <keestu> eikon81g, ubuntu touch ?
[04:14] <eikon81g> right
[04:14] <eikon81g> thanks in advance
[04:14] <crlcan81> I'm curious if anyone here knows any good replacement for rhythmbox besides banshee? I think I've used banshee amarock and a few others, but I know one of them had my CPU up to almost 80-90%, just for that program.
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> eikon81g: why you ask?
[04:14] <eikon81g> I wonder if they have had any installs on idevices
[04:15] <eikon81g> I have a locked ipad that I'd love to tinker with :P
[04:15] <cfhowlett> crlcan81, no shortage of media players in the software center
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> eikon81g: join the #ubuntu-touch channel
[04:15] <eikon81g> ty sir
[04:15] <al_nz1> on my command why am I getting bash: myexe.exe permission denied
[04:15] <crlcan81> I"m wondering what folks here like though, because honestly software center recemendations are hit and miss.
[04:15] <al_nz1> the script should create a exe
[04:15] <cfhowlett> crlcan81, mencode/mplayer would be much lighter
[04:15] <crlcan81> ..I had something somewhat similar in trying to run an iso's exe.
[04:16] <eikon81g> !chown
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> crlcan81: i swear by vlc
[04:16] <eikon81g> al nz1 look at info on chown
[04:17] <rgb-one> Heres an exhaustive list of players available for linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications/Multimedia
[04:17] <crlcan81> I've had sound issues with vlc, and the problem I noticed with a few of the others is after a certain amount of files I had odd skips in some songs, that shouldn't be there except they were using too much of my CPU
[04:17] <eikon81g> also al make sure the folder you are outputting to is owned by you not root
[04:17] <eikon81g> vlc rocks
[04:18] <al_nz1> eikon81g: love your work - had to output to home dir!
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> wich one does lubuntu use by default? maybe thats gonna be lightweight?
[04:18] <crlcan81> Well I know one thing mplayer can't do, at least gnome's mplayer, deal with large numbers of files like on a playlist. I just had it crash after loading my playlist and closing out of it.
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> crlcan81: lol, sounds like everything goes wrong on your box, maybe its your system itself then?
[04:19] <cfhowlett> crlcan81, perhaps the cure is a lighter OS overall; lubuntu/xubuntu
[04:20] <TurtleDan> Is there a way in Linux to start an application usin a hotkey?
[04:20] <ldlework> I just upgraded to 14.04 and I'm trying to install libsdl2-dev and apt-get wants to uninstall the world?
[04:21] <ldlework> http://askubuntu.com/questions/595039/apt-get-install-is-removing-a-lot-of-packages-when-installing-libsdl2-dev-14-04
[04:21] <RudeViper> daftykins - ok almost done installing ubuntu server - what is the unity package called that I can install from cli?
[04:21] <rgb-one> unity
[04:22] <ldlework> I wonder if anyone else has tried to install libsdl2-dev on ubuntu 14?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !hotkeys | TurtleDan
[04:22] <letstrythis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10613604/ sudo's k3b
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> ldlework: what do you need the file for exactly?
[04:22] <letstrythis> have not tried to burn yet
[04:22] <TurtleDan> Thank you
[04:24] <monk12_> letstrythis: i got into linux yay... I went to recovery mode, enabled 'network'. then went to command line as root in that recovery mode still. i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and unity.... installed the bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia drivers and I could log into Ubuntu. the bumblebee/nvidia drivers prob what made it work.
[04:24] <letstrythis> gonna take a break and let it try to burn in sudo
[04:24] <letstrythis> nice
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> monk12_: your card is an optimus?
[04:25] <letstrythis> ::dances::
[04:25] <letstrythis> glad i was somewhat helpful xD
[04:26] <monk12_> lotuspsychje:  its a W540 so its a Nvidia Quadro K2100M. my W520 def had an optimus. not usre if the Quadro is an Optimus card.
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> monk12_: then youl need the nvidia-prime package, bumblebee is outdated
[04:26] <letstrythis> wow i'd love to have quadro again those things kick butt
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | monk12_
[04:27] <letstrythis> yes but it works
[04:27] <ldlework> lotuspsychje: software that I'm compiling that uses SDL?
[04:27] <monk12_> i think i saw nvidia-prime also get installed when i installed something else. is it problematic to have both?
[04:27] <eikon81g> lotuspsychje, is a fool wit it
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> monk12_: not sure, if your system runs stable i woulnt touch it :p
[04:27] <ldlework> monk12_: bumblebee?
[04:27] <letstrythis> exactly lotus
[04:28] <eikon81g> I regretting installing the nvidia package on mine
[04:28] <ldlework> The first thing I did was install the nvidia package
[04:28] <ldlework> works great
[04:28] <ldlework> I have a hybrid setup
[04:28] <letstrythis> so will prime break what works? what will it add how to easily go back?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> +1 nvidia quadro k1100m
[04:28] <eikon81g> yea I have a p.o.s setup lol
[04:28] <monk12_> cool. yeh its stable now.... i have bumblebee, bumblebee lotus and nvidia-prime (maybe cause i installed prime-indicator after bumblebee)
[04:28] <monk12_> bumblebee, bumblebee-nvidia*, and nvidia-prime
[04:29] <letstrythis> burn failed in sudo k3b, failed medium? its a new disk grrrr
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: try brasero :p
[04:30] <eikon81g> what does the buffer look like when you are burning?
[04:30] <ldlework> monk12_: here's how I got my nvida to work: install fresh 14.04, immediatley go to software-properties-gtk, enable nvidida propretiery driver, reboot, do nothing else.
[04:30] <eikon81g> lotuspsychje, is prolly right
[04:30] <ldlework> don't fuck with bumblebee or prime
[04:30] <ldlework> just use the nvidia card all the time
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> ldlework: if the card is optimus, it will surely need nvidia-prime
[04:31] <ldlework> lotuspsychje: maybe installing the properietary driver does that
[04:31] <ldlework> I don't know, but just installing the prop driver from a fresh install, I've never had to do anything else
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> ldlework: no its a seperate package
[04:31] <letstrythis> added debug window ffrom k3b
[04:31] <ldlework> lotuspsychje: I can assure you you don't need to install anything but clicking "Use properitery Nvida driver" from software-properties-gtk after booting into a fresh install
[04:31] <monk12_> it looks like it is Optimus, i saw features under the card as optimus. Quadro K2100M: http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-for-mobile-workstations.html
[04:31] <letstrythis> i'lltry brasero now
[04:31] <eikon81g> letstrythis, did you log in as root that time when you burned
[04:32] <eikon81g> ?
[04:32] <letstrythis> yes
[04:32] <eikon81g> humm..
[04:32] <ldlework> I did it just today. Twice.
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> ldlework: then maybe your card hasnt got optimus technology?
[04:32] <eikon81g> brasero - fingers crossed
[04:32] <letstrythis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10613615/
[04:32] <eikon81g> Oh hey try to set the burn speed to like 2x
[04:33] <eikon81g> may help and are you able to see your buffer levels..? are you getting buffer underruns?
[04:33] <eikon81g> that's another thing you might tryu
[04:33] <letstrythis> added the "media info to pastebin
[04:33] <eikon81g> *try
[04:34] <letstrythis> ok
[04:34] <ldlework> lotuspsychje: it does, its nvidia and intel and I've used bumblebee but its a nightmare
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> ldlework: bumblebee is outdated
[04:34] <ldlework> even so, since installing the prop driver I haven't had to mess with any prime stuff
[04:34] <eikon81g> listen to the man! lol
[04:34] <loki__> h
[04:34] <ldlework> and my apps are accelerated
[04:34] <ldlework> so I dunno
[04:34] <eikon81g> "don't fix what's not broke"
[04:35] <ldlework> Does anyone know why libsdl2-dev wants uninstall over 100 packages?
[04:35] <wildestnotion> anybody know why Aeolus is not sending a signal through JackCtl after I have connected it to system in UbuntuStudio 14.04?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> !info libsdl2-dev
[04:37] <eikon81g> http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr look there Idlework you may be doing too much lol
[04:38] <eikon81g> letstrythis, did you change the write speed and try?
[04:41] <monk12_> so doing some googlign... nvidia-prime uses Nvidia by default and you go and set nvidia-settings to use other profile if needed (kinda confusing though, dont see option to set default GPU, might be per app settings). Bumblebee uses intel GPU by default and use optirun/primusrun to run an app using Nvidia GPU. and yes bumblebee/ironhide is being phased out i just read.
[04:41] <monk12_> i guess prime-indicator for nvidia-prime helps out switching GPUs (although u have to logoff for that to work).
[04:42]  * eikon81g is away: brb
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> monk12_: nvidia-prime is what you need :p
[04:43] <monk12_> :)... however bumblebee claims 'If you thought that Bumblebee was dead, it's still alive and kicking' hehe.
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> monk12_: maybe if you would uninstall nvidia-prime you would experience probs
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> monk12_: but sure, on some machines it might still run fine
[04:44] <monk12_> if i could get nvidia-prime to use the Intel GPU by default that would be cool. sure i can use prime-indicator to switch to Intel after i login.
[04:44] <monk12_> but thats kinda  pain, have to login twice then to swtich.
[04:45] <crlcan81> I've been thinking xubuntu, the only thing I worry about then is how compatible will things like SL and the like be with my system, and I'll have to resalvage all my files here, I've got close to 80-90 gigs of information I want to save.
[04:45] <monk12_> i going to uninstall bumblebee/bumblebee-nvidia (guess ill run apt-get remove bumblebee*) and see what happens.
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> monk12_: good luck :p
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> ldlework: can this help perhaps? http://askubuntu.com/questions/344512/what-is-the-general-procedure-to-install-development-libraries-in-ubuntu
[04:48] <ldlework> lotuspsychje: nah it isn't related
[04:48] <ldlework> thanks though
[04:48] <ldlework> someone else explained to me that its just the way its packaged
[04:48] <ldlework> and everything I'm uninstalling is getting replaced with a slightly different version
[04:48] <ldlework> and most cases the same versions are being reinstalled
[04:49] <ldlework> its just scary the way its presented
[04:49] <monk12_> k removed bumblebee and still works. now to see if i can make intel the default GPU under nvidia hehe
[04:50] <eikon81g> lotuspsychje, you created a monster....
[04:50] <eikon81g> lol
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ldlework: was your system an upgrade or fresh install?
[04:52] <eikon81g> alright lotuspsychje I'm out I'll be back soon, I will let ya know how the touch install goes :)
[04:52] <eikon81g> Thanks again!!
[04:52] <eikon81g> Later all!!
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> eikon81g: laterz
[04:52] <eikon81g> :)
[04:55] <monk12_> k thanks guys again (Idlework and lotuspsychje), im off to sleep!
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> monk12_: cheers mate
[04:55] <monk12_> :) cheers
[05:06] <brokenwifi> hi, need a bit of help with a intemittent wireless issue on 14.04; very similar to teh bug listed here
[05:06] <brokenwifi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/984552
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: wifi chipset please?
[05:07] <brokenwifi> hi! let me see if i can figure that out!
[05:08] <brokenwifi> ok iwconfig did not tell me
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: sudo lshw -C network
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: chipset card name + whats behind driver=
[05:09] <brokenwifi> product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:08:00.0
[05:09] <brokenwifi> configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=half latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s        resources: irq:43 ioport:c000(size=256) memory:f8200000-f8200fff memory:c0000000-c001ffff
[05:09] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: thank you for helping
[05:09] <gr33n7007h> !paste | brokenwifi
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | brokenwifi
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: you might wanna look on realteks website for recent linux drivers/firmware
[05:10] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: working on pasting
[05:11] <brokenwifi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10613711/
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: oh its an intel
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | brokenwifi
[05:12] <brokenwifi> i'll check it out
[05:13] <brokenwifi> can i  tell you what the symptoms are and maybe have you give me your thoughts?
[05:14] <Bray9082_> murphyslawbbs: Are you around
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: i would try other driver perhaps, check the syslog and dmesg for errors
[05:15] <brokenwifi> is dmesg only error or is it showing all processes?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: dmesg shows all errors
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | brokenwifi
[05:16] <murphyslawbbs> Bray9082_: hey
[05:16] <brokenwifi> got it
[05:16] <brokenwifi> any interest in seeing the paste of the output?
[05:16] <Bray9082_> murphyslawbbs: Sorry I was AFK what was it that you said earlier
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: would like the paste of your syslog
[05:17] <brokenwifi> ok give me a sec :D
[05:17] <murphyslawbbs> Bray9082_: when i googled around it looked like most of the issues are around user/password settings and the like
[05:17] <brokenwifi> hmm looks like i need to install syslog
[05:17] <brokenwifi> its not there
[05:18] <murphyslawbbs> Bray9082_: can you perhaps use a different authentication mechanism?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: browse it from your logviewer icon manually
[05:18] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: just realized its  file
[05:18] <brokenwifi> ha
[05:18] <brokenwifi> right
[05:18] <brokenwifi> sorry
[05:18] <SchrodingersScat> ok, on closer inspection, even though thunar says the file is the wrong size, the sha256sum of the files is the same...
[05:20] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10613722/
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: seems like that wificard is having real loop issues
[05:24] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: so glad its not my router
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: same errors re-loop many times
[05:24] <brokenwifi> anythink i can do or is this thing cooked?
[05:24] <Bray9082_> murphyslawbbs: If i put username=admin,password=771774 would that work
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: did you install ubuntu with updates and internet enabled at setup?
[05:25] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: i did :/
[05:25] <gbear14275> Hello, I'm getting streaming ata errors when I'm running apt-get update...  is this a side effect of ata errors being written to log while I'm updating?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: ok, maybe check the intel website for recent wifi drivers and check if you get that card better
[05:25] <brokenwifi> got it
[05:26] <brokenwifi> stupid answer
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: did you update also to 14.04.2?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> gbear14275: ata in syslog would mean harddisk issue perhaps
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> gbear14275: what kind of ata error you getting?
[05:27] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: ok good
[05:28] <brokenwifi> whats an easy way to tell if there are updated drivers?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: well you might have the most updated drivers, but that doesnt mean their the best
[05:28] <gbear14275> ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0  (<-- No clue)
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: find one that works best for your card
[05:29] <brokenwifi> so just trial and error hu?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | brokenwifi
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: or browse intel website for linux wifi drivers
[05:29] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: thanks!
[05:29] <brokenwifi> when i'm researching this issue further
[05:29] <brokenwifi> what are good keywords to use fromt he issue you saw in teh dmseg?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: i would focus on wifi card name+type and disconnecting error maybe
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: the error you experience the most
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> gbear14275: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133946/are-these-sata-errors-dangerous
[05:31] <brokenwifi> understood
[05:31] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: last quetsion :D what is teh model number of my card, looking at intel for thisPRO/Wireless 4965 AG did bring up anytihng
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: 4965 is model of your intel
[05:33] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: got it
[05:33] <brokenwifi> thanks
[05:33] <brokenwifi> i tihnk i found some people having the same issue
[05:33] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/277634
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> looks usefull
[05:39] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: this is teh best driver i can find for this chipset
[05:39] <brokenwifi> v
[05:39] <brokenwifi> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlegacy
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: you can try a firmware of those yes
[05:41] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: ok i know you're probably annoyed
[05:41] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: here is the exact same problem with a fix - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235203 can you help figure out what to do?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: that thread also sugests trying latest firmware of your card model
[05:43] <brokenwifi>  lotuspsychje ok i haven't a clue on how to install it -> i'll give it a try
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: that last answer of the thread explains it howto
[05:44] <Bray9082_> murphyslawbbs: How would you mount a smb/cifs share
[05:45] <brokenwifi> ok i'll work on it -> wish me luck
[05:45] <brokenwifi> thanks again
[05:45] <Jef91> Anyone know of a way to use a Nikon camera as a webcam on Linux? Instructions exist for Windows -> http://sparkosoft.com/how-to-use-dslr-as-webcam but it utilizes closed source software
[05:46] <gbear14275> lotuspsychje, I think I found out what was going on.  My RAID array is rebuilding and I think those are all related to that happening in the background... is a little freaky to have them spam your consoles though
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | gbear14275
[05:47] <gbear14275> Thanks!  Have a good night
[05:48] <amazingcat64> ohai peeps
[05:48] <amazingcat64> im new
[05:48] <penguser> I need help with booting
[05:49] <penguser> does anyone have nvidia 750/750 ti cards?
[05:49] <penguser> I have tried live media - but the text is too small/blurry
[05:49] <penguser> i've used nomodeset and vga=771 - doesn't help
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> penguser: is your card an optimus?
[05:49] <penguser> why isn't anyone addressing this problem ?  It must not effect only me?
[05:50] <penguser> lotuspsychje, no
[05:50] <Ben64> you should install nvidia drivers from the xorg-edgers ppa
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> penguser: did you check additional drivers section to test out other drivers?
[05:50] <penguser> Ben64, I cannot BOOT
[05:50] <penguser> IT'S NOT INSTALLED
[05:50] <Ben64> you don't need to yell
[05:50] <penguser> I just want to test the media
[05:50] <penguser> I don't want to install and then I cannot see my screen
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> penguser: whats the error on booting?
[05:51] <penguser> it goes too fast but I think I read something about nouveau
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> penguser: wich ubuntu version?
[05:51] <penguser> I suspect the nouveau drivers are just lousy so it doesn't load a proper driver/text
[05:51] <penguser> I tried 14.10 and 15.04
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> penguser: try 14.04 to test
[05:52] <penguser> Lubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu
[05:52] <penguser> I did
[05:52] <penguser> I press F6
[05:52] <penguser> I used nomodeset and on the boot parameter line, I entered vga=771
[05:52] <penguser> but, I'm out of ideas now :(
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> penguser: where exactly on setup do you get stuck?
[05:53] <penguser> I'm using the live media - with usb stick
[05:53] <Ben64> it needs the nvidia drivers from the xorg-edgers ppa
[05:53] <Ben64> so install that ppa after you install ubuntu
[05:53] <penguser> it loads the desktop but I cannot read the screen...text is small and blurry
[05:54] <penguser> I cannot install them... I cannot read anything!
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> penguser: did you try to install ubuntu instead of the live
[05:54] <penguser> no
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> penguser: try that, and do what Ben64 suggests
[05:54] <penguser> what if the install is the same?
[05:55] <penguser> what will be different with the install?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | penguser
[05:55] <penguser> do you understand my question?
[05:55] <Ben64> it won't be... after you install the drivers
[05:55] <Ben64> do you understand that i'm saying to install the drivers
[05:55] <penguser> *face palm*
[05:55] <Ben64> i'll take that as a no
[05:55] <penguser> hello?
[05:55] <penguser> anyone else?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> penguser: loose the attitude, we are trying to help you here
[05:56] <penguser> lotuspsychje, the screen is unreadable... I cannot install anything
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> penguser: you just said you didnt test 'install ubuntu' just live session
[05:56] <penguser> right
[05:57] <penguser> you think I won't have this problem if I install?
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> penguser: and even if you cant boot after install, there's always recoverymode failsafeX
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> penguser: if you install what Ben64 suggested it will work
[05:57] <Ben64> penguser: after you install, install the drivers like i've suggested 5 times now
[05:57] <penguser> they should use a 'safe graphics' option... - it's worked for me before
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> penguser: thats what i just told you, failsafeX
[05:58] <penguser> Ben64, that is assuming I won't be staring at the same thing....but, this time it's an installed OS
[05:58] <Ben64> penguser: its not assuming anything
[06:02] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: hi! I've been hammering with wifi card with a big download for a bit
[06:02] <brokenwifi> and it' looks stable
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !yay | brokenwifi
[06:03] <brokenwifi> thank you for all your help and encourgement :D
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: thank you for feedback, we can use this for further support :p
[06:03] <brokenwifi> just glad i dont have to throttle my downloads in the hope that the comp doesnt take a crap
[06:03] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje: i feel like a real adult :P
[06:03] <brokenwifi> thanks again
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: the best way is your own experience on ubuntu
[06:04] <brokenwifi> agreed -
[06:04] <brokenwifi> i am hoping to get ubuntu onto a chromebook i have, but best i see is crouton which is a bit shit
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: chromebooks arent so smooth, ive seen that crouton thing
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: i think there's a way to get an addon from chrome, to run ubuntu virtualy
[06:05] <brokenwifi> lotuspsychje:  i assumed i would just able to fresh install ubuntu directly on the hardware
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: look for a crouton addon on chrome or something
[06:06] <brokenwifi> i have zero interest in chrome
[06:06] <brokenwifi> because with crouton i noticed that chromeos is actually interpretting all my commands
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: well chromebooks are kinda different to install stuff on
[06:06] <brokenwifi> that makes me a bit waery
[06:06] <brokenwifi> right
[06:06] <brokenwifi> :D
[06:06] <brokenwifi> anyways thanks again for all your help
[06:06] <brokenwifi> off to bed
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: you might have a pain to install ubuntu on it
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> ok nite nite
[06:06] <brokenwifi> :D
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> brokenwifi: maybe talk to the #snappy guys about it
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> oops
[06:07] <penguser> 15.04 is buggy as well
[06:07] <Ben64> 15.04 isn't released yet
[06:08] <penguser> I could not install the nvidia driver...  I opened a terminal and tried to use the software center
[06:08] <penguser> I managed to search nvidia in the search field
[06:08] <Ben64> penguser: you need to install first
[06:08] <penguser> anyway, it's a buggy OS
[06:08] <Ben64> 15.04 is buggy? sure it is not released for another month
[06:08] <penguser> no, all of it is
[06:08] <Ben64> no, it isn't
[06:08] <penguser> you should be able to boot into it, at least
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> penguser: ubuntu isnt responsible for what the user does
[06:09] <Ben64> you can, but you do need to install first
[06:09] <penguser> there's only three graphics to worry about, nvidia, amd and intel
[06:09] <Ben64> if all you want to do is complain, this is not the channel for you
[06:09] <Ben64> if you actually want to fix something, do what i'm suggesting
[06:10] <penguser> Ben64, I don't want to spend the time installing only for it to be unreadable
[06:10] <Ben64> it will work if you do what i said
[06:42] <jacta> Does anyone use Cinnamon? I can't find where alt+onehalf is binded :/
[06:54] <poningru> exit
[07:04] <afaik> hi, can i install Ubuntu on my broadwell intel nuc?
[07:04] <nishanth_> anyone know how to reinstall ubuntu without loosing data
[07:06] <EriC^^> nishanth_, backup your home dir and data, use dpkg to get a list of installed applications then reinstall ubuntu and have dpkg reinstall the apps and copy your home dir and data back
[07:07] <nishanth_> EriC^^ am actually trying to repair sommething wrong with my OS
[07:08] <nishanth_> EriC^^ i did sudo apt-get install -f this
[07:08] <nishanth_> EriC^^ but i get this msg Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:09] <Ben64> pastebin the entire command and error
[07:12] <jacta> Does anyone use Cinnamon? I can't find where alt+onehalf is binded :/
[07:14] <Ben64> jacta: what does that mean
[07:15] <jacta> Ben64: I have installed 14.04 and using Cinnamon as interface
[07:15] <Ben64> jacta: ok, thats not the part that is confusing
[07:15] <jacta> Ben64: then what is? :D
[07:16] <Ben64> jacta: literally the only other thing you said
[07:17] <jacta> Ben64: Guake terminal says that "alt+onehalf" is binded and I therefor can't use that keybinding for guake
[07:17] <Ben64> jacta: and what is "alt+onehalf"
[07:18] <jacta> Ben64: they also says alt+aboveTab
[07:18] <jacta> the button above tab :)
[07:19] <Ben64> thats not what its called
[07:19] <jacta> What is the name then?
[07:20] <EriC^^> tilde maybe
[07:20] <EriC^^> tidle is ~
[07:20] <EriC^^> *tilde
[07:21] <jacta> But seems like I cant find out whats binded :/
[07:21] <Ben64> its called "grave" tilde is what results when you do shift with it
[07:22] <jacta> ooooh - thanks for the correction Ben64
[07:22] <ska_> Hey there!
[07:23] <ljmod> ubuntu turns off monitor at boot, any fix?
[07:24] <jacta> Ben64: do you think theres a terminal command to check?
[07:24] <arkie> hey how do i check whats in my crontab?
[07:24] <EriC^^> arkie, crontab-l
[07:24] <EriC^^> *crontab -l
[07:25] <arkie> root@anthony:~# crontab -l
[07:25] <arkie> no crontab for root
[07:25] <arkie> what?
[07:25] <arkie> wait, the user for crontab is www-data i believe
[07:25] <EriC^^> arkie, logout of root, type exit
[07:25] <EriC^^> arkie, crontab -u <user> -l
[07:25] <Julia7> Hi! What's the easiest way to install GTK+ 3.14 in Ubuntu? Please help me. :)
[07:26] <arkie> EriC^^, this shows up at the bottom
[07:26] <arkie> * * * * * (cd /var/www/html/dmi-tcat/capture/stream/; php controller.php)
[07:26] <arkie> but controller.php stops running randomly still
[07:26] <arkie> shouldnt this force it to update every minute?
[07:26] <Ben64> arkie: please use a pastebin for showing more than one line in this channel
[07:27] <Ben64> arkie: and you really should not be using "cd" and stuff like that in a cron job
[07:27] <EriC^^> arkie, it'll run it every minute
[07:27] <EriC^^> arkie, check /var/log/syslog to see if you get any errors
[07:28] <Ben64> Julia7: install 15.04 ... but keep in mind it is still not released
[07:28] <jacta> Ben64: do you know such placE?
[07:28] <Julia7> Ben64: What? Is that the only way? :/
[07:32] <Ben64> Julia7: yeah, 14.04 has 3.10, 14.10 has 3.12, 15.04 has 3.14
[07:32] <Julia7> Ben64: So I can't force it on 14.04?
[07:32] <Ben64> Julia7: i mean if you want to break your system, sure
[07:33] <Julia7> Ben64: I'm running a second installation of Ubuntu inside a virtual machine to play around with. :D
[07:33] <Julia7> Do you want to teach me?
[07:33] <Ben64> no
[07:35] <Julia7> :(
[07:35] <EriC^^> why not upgrade to 15.04 in the vm?
[07:37] <Julia7> EriC^^: Is that easy?
[07:38] <EriC^^> sudo do-release-upgrade
[07:38] <EriC^^> *sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[07:38] <Julia7> EriC^^: I think it's updating now. :)
[07:38] <EriC^^> :)
[07:49] <jacta> Ben64: did you see my last message or did I not see yours?
[07:52] <Ben64> jacta: ?
[07:53] <Nikhil> I can't install adobe flash player on my mozilla?
[07:53] <jacta> Ben64: where I can find the grave bind and remove it? Seems like I can't find it in settings->keyboard
[07:53] <nis> am getting some erro msgs when updating can some one help?
[07:54] <Nikhil> I can't watch videos execpt on youtube
[07:54] <hateball> !flash | Nikhil
[07:54] <Ben64> jacta: i don't use cinnamon, not sure where they have stuff
[07:54] <nis> http://pastebin.com/gkDZUaQ0
[07:54] <Edu-J> Nikhil, I use Chrome when flash is needed
[07:54] <Edu-J> but I prefer avoid it
[07:55] <jacta> Ben64: thanks for trying atleast :)
[07:58] <Nikhil> Edu-J, In the optional add-ons I selected Mozilla firefox in ubuntu software centre, now changes are taking place
[07:59] <Edu-J> yes, it should be enough for watching videos
[08:00] <Edu-J> but in the case you need a newer flash version, Chrome is the best option from my point of view
[08:00] <nis> anyone know how to install 15.04 alpha?
[08:01] <Edu-J> Nikhil just type this in console -> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[08:01] <Ben64> nis: #ubuntu+1 for support
[08:02] <Nikhil> Edu-J it says that flash plugin player is already the newest version
[08:02] <nis> Ben64 van you help me with some update issues?
[08:03] <Blue1> Nikhil: I have had better luck installing flashplugin-nonfree
[08:03] <Julia7> EriC^^: It's taking forever.
[08:03] <Julia7> Is that how it should be?
[08:03] <Ben64> nis: if its about 15.04 you need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:04] <Edu-J> yes Nikhil, is the newest flash... for firefox
[08:04] <Edu-J> but should be good enough
[08:04] <nis> Ben64 no its 14.10
[08:05] <Ben64> nis: well explain your issue and see if anyone can help
[08:05] <nis> Ben64 http://pastebin.com/gkDZUaQ0
[08:05] <Ben64> nis: ok thats an error message thing, but you need to explain things
[08:06] <nis> Ben64 i get many errors while updating and many of my programs are not getting installed properly
[08:06] <Ben64> nis: what were you running that prompted that error
[08:07] <Ben64> nis: and you only pasted part of the error, you need to give more complete information
[08:07] <Nikhil> Edu-J, What is the command for installing chrome
[08:07] <Edu-J> Nikhil, let me see...
[08:08] <nis> Ben64 http://pastebin.com/rEPi6MBj
[08:08] <Edu-J> Nikhil, As I remember, you should download the package from chrome web
[08:08] <nis> Ben64 i recently innstalled virtualbox and that  wasn't working
[08:08] <nis> ben64 but i been having trouble with other programs as well
[08:09] <Nikhil> oh, ok
[08:09] <Blue1> yup -- d/l chrome from the website
[08:09] <Nikhil> but downloading it from terminal is very fast, I noticed
[08:09] <Ben64> nis: pastebin the outputs of "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:09] <Nikhil> not chrome but other softwares
[08:09] <Blue1> it will come up with some strange error something is missing iirc - I did a sudo apt-get install -f and then all was right with the world and it install chrome
[08:10] <Edu-J> yes but Chrome is not in repositories
[08:10] <Ben64> if you want to install chrome, add the google chrome PPA
[08:10] <Edu-J> Nikhil, you can do it from here -> https://www.google.es/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html#
[08:10] <Edu-J> Nikhil, just download the correct package
[08:10] <Nikhil> ok
[08:11] <Edu-J> Nikhil, really easy
[08:11] <Nikhil> Edu-J is downloading from terminal really fast or is it my imagination?
[08:12] <Edu-J> Nikhil, yes it is really fast (depends on your connection, of course)
[08:12] <nis> Ben64 http://pastebin.com/LihaSCN0
[08:12] <Nikhil> because 1GB file was downloaded within 10 mins where as in windows it would take 1 hour
[08:12] <nis> Ben64 this is sudo...upgrade
[08:12] <Edu-J> Nikhil, but sometimes you need something that is not in your repositories
[08:12] <Blue1> that's why they call windows the 3 hour tour --
[08:13] <freddyb> I'm on a lenovo x250 with an upstream kernel
[08:13] <Julia7> Hi! Does anyone know the URL to Ubuntu's daily builds and alternative downloads? Thanks.
[08:13] <Edu-J> Nikhil, and you need to download the package or add a repositorie (PPA)
[08:14] <nis> Ben64 http://pastebin.com/Nx9nSc3z
[08:14] <Ben64> Julia7: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[08:14] <nis> Ben64 this is the upgrade part
[08:14] <Julia7> Ben64: Thanks.
[08:14] <freddyb> I'm on a lenovo x250 with an upstream kernel (3.18.7, to get all the drivers working) and some USB hard disks don't work. I tried blacklisting uas (as suggested on askubuntu) but that didnt work. here's dmesg output: http://dpaste.com/00QZE7M
[08:15] <Nikhil> Edu-J can I host a website from ubuntu?
[08:16] <Edu-J> Nikhil, yes, you can use Apache, PHP... what you need
[08:16] <Edu-J> Nikhil, you can read something about LAMP (do you know XAMP for windows?)
[08:16] <Julia7> Ben64: Would you be so kind and help me pick the right .iso for Ubuntu 15.04?
[08:16] <awk> Why is your "bacula" module so outdated ?
[08:17] <Nikhil> no, I didn't go much into networks. I like the programming
[08:17] <nis> Julia7 u can do it fromm th e terminnal
[08:18] <Edu-J> Nikhil, just type "localhost" in firefox
[08:18] <nis> Julia7  sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[08:18] <Edu-J> Nikhil, you could have Apache already installed (as it was in my case)
[08:18] <Julia7> nis: I've already tried that. It took forever and then the virtual machine just shut down.
[08:18] <Julia7> nis: Please help me.
[08:18] <Nikhil> it say unable to connect to server
[08:19] <nis> Julia7 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/current/
[08:19] <Edu-J> Nikhil, ok so you don't have it installed
[08:19] <Nikhil> can you give me the command for it
[08:19] <freddyb> I don't see my usb harddrive because of (most likely) this error message in dmesg xhci_drop_endpoint called with disabled ep -- any pointers?
[08:20] <Edu-J> Nikhil, have a look to this article -> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu
[08:20] <Julia7> nis: What does "daily build" mean? Can I update it or do I have to download a new .iso every single day?
[08:20] <nis> Julia7 no you just download it
[08:20] <nis> and later keep updating
[08:20] <Edu-J> Nikhil, it explain how to install all you should need for web developing
[08:21] <Julia7> nis: So this is the .iso I want? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/current/vivid-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:21] <Nikhil> do I need to register a domain name to host a website?
[08:21] <delhivery> Hi, i've compiled a custome kernel ( no modules, inbuilt drivers, no initramfs/initrd) .. however on booting to the kernel I get a kernel panic, unable to mount root vfs
[08:21] <nis> Julia7 if you want more info on 15.04 join #ubuntu+1
[08:21] <delhivery> How do I resolve this?
[08:21] <Julia7> nis: :(
[08:22] <Julia7> Thanks.
[08:23] <Edu-J> Nikhil, I use Apache locally for development and then I use hosting services, yes
[08:23] <nis> Ben64 any suggestions?
[08:24] <Edu-J> Nikhil, but you can host a website in your computer, registering a domain that points your computer (I have not much experience with this)
[08:24] <Nikhil> so, apache is only for local development not for the internet
[08:24] <Nikhil> oh, good
[08:24] <Edu-J> Nikhil, you can use Apache for internet, of course
[08:24] <Blue1> be aware however, that all u.s. based carriers block incoming http requests
[08:25] <Nikhil> then registering a domain is compulsory?
[08:26] <Edu-J> Nikhil, no, you could share your ip
[08:26] <Edu-J> Nikhil, there are also services like "NO-IP"
[08:26] <Nikhil> oh, so if we type my IP then my website will be display. Right?
[08:27] <Edu-J> Nikhil, yep ^^
[08:27] <Nikhil> and all that is free
[08:27] <freddyb> Nikhil: your ip address may change whenever you disconnect from the internet. your internet provider may block you from hosting a website. you have to stay online to continue hosting the website
[08:27] <Edu-J> Nikhil, yes, totally free
[08:28] <Nikhil> nice :)
[08:28] <Edu-J> Nikhil, yes, what freddyb says is all you have to think about
[08:28] <Edu-J> Nikhil, and security
[08:28] <freddyb> Nikhil: the hosting itself (e.g. with apache) is unfortunately the easiest problem of them all
[08:29] <Edu-J> Nikhil, you can also use this -> http://www.noip.com/
[08:29] <Blue1> i use dyndns I may switch to no ip when it expires
[08:29] <freddyb> security is hard, unless you just host HTML files (no PHP, CGI, etc.)
[08:29] <Nikhil> how much would it take to register a domain?
[08:29] <freddyb> if you're looking for a free dns provider, I can really recomment afraid.org. dozens of domains to pick from.
[08:30] <Edu-J> as I said, I only use Apache locally for development...
[08:30] <freddyb> Nikhil: you can get free ones, if you just need a name, not something very beautiful and short
[08:31] <Blue1> Nikhil: to register a domain, contact a registrar like godaddy.com or domains.com.  I think it's about $12/year to register a domain
[08:31] <Edu-J> Nikhil, I use CDMON hosting, in Spain
[08:31] <delhivery> Hi, i've compiled a custome kernel ( no modules, inbuilt drivers, no initramfs/initrd) .. however on booting to the kernel I get a kernel panic, unable to mount root vfs
[08:31] <delhivery> How do I resolve this?
[08:31] <ikonia> delhivery: you have not built in the correct disk support
[08:31] <delhivery> ikonia, the same kernel works w/ a non ubuntu system
[08:31] <ikonia> delhivery: or subsystems required to boot / access your disk
[08:32] <ikonia> delhivery: so work out what's different on your non-ubuntu system
[08:32] <delhivery> ikonia, the only difference I am seeing is the different parititioning .. /dev/sda5          501760   976771071   488134656   8e  Linux LVM
[08:32] <ikonia> doesn't really prove much though
[08:32] <ikonia> delhivery: ok - so lvm support
[08:32] <Nikhil> freddyb, can you tell me the free ones?
[08:32] <ikonia> Nikhil: maybe better to move this to #web channel
[08:33] <Nikhil> ikonia, ok, sorry for the disturbance btw
[08:33] <ikonia> no need for sorry
[08:33] <Blue1> peace -- out -- night
[08:34] <freddyb> Nikhil: someone mentioned no-ip.com, but there's also afraid.org
[08:34] <delhivery> ikonia, right.. but my root against the grub.cfg will still be referred to with a /dev/mapper?
[08:34] <freddyb> Nikhil: you can set up some program on ubuntu so that it updates your name regularly (so it always points to your correct ip address (if it changes))
[08:35] <ikonia> delhivery: which is a meta device, not a physical device
[08:35] <delhivery> ikonia, on the other system I am instead passing root=/dev/sdaX , while ubuntu generates it as root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-root
[08:35] <ikonia> delhivery: because it's using LVM, not physical devices
[08:35] <delhivery> ikonia, right.. so does this necessitate the use of an initrd?
[08:36] <ikonia> depends
[08:36] <delhivery> ikonia, in fact, I've never used an initrd/initramfs and I am not sure what its needed for
[08:36] <ikonia> ok, so researching that would be a good start
[08:36] <freddyb> I have a usb hdd that shows up with lsusb but does not create a device in /dev - how to debug?
[08:37] <ikonia> freddyb: shows up where ?
[08:37] <delhivery> ikonia, the question I thus want to ask, is if a default ubuntu installation can be booted via a kernel w/o initrd/initramfs
[08:37] <delhivery> i.e. directly boot off a bzImage
[08:37] <ikonia> delhivery: it depends on the ubuntu configuration
[08:37] <delhivery> ikonia, the configuration i've specified i.e. LVM set up
[08:38] <ikonia> delhivery: that is just a disk part - it depends on more than the disk
[08:38] <freddyb> ikonia: shows up when I enter "lsusb"
[08:38] <delhivery> like what?
[08:38] <ikonia> freddyb: so that means it's plugged in
[08:38] <freddyb> ikonia: exactly :-)
[08:38] <ikonia> delhivery: why are you building a custom kernel - what's the issue you're trying to resolve/manage
[08:39] <delhivery> ikonia, identical machines in office, ubuntu is unable to detect a set of peripherals ( including backlight, touchpad etc)
[08:39] <delhivery> another identical machine I've set up with the unstable kernel has drivers for a lot of them which I've built and set up on a gentoo system
[08:40] <delhivery> all peripherals work on the latter and I am trying to replicate the kernel on the former
[08:40] <freddyb> ikonia: how can I debug what's going wrong and why it doesnt get an entry as e.g. /dev/sdc? do you know? :-)
[08:40] <ikonia> replicating the kernel is not the issue understanding why they are not working is
[08:40] <ikonia> freddyb: look in the syslog
[08:40] <ikonia> freddyb: is it a usb disk, or something like a phone
[08:41] <delhivery> ikonia, i know for a fact its the lack of drivers
[08:41] <ikonia> delhivery: which drivers
[08:41] <ikonia> and are they just missing in the ubuntu kernel, or a different version
[08:41] <freddyb> ikonia: a real usb hdd. physical device with a spinning disk and everything :-)
[08:42] <delhivery> ikonia, they're missing in ubuntu kernel I guess.. specifically, e1000e is throwing issues
[08:42] <delhivery> so is alps_v7
[08:42] <ikonia> delhivery: e1000 is not mising
[08:42] <delhivery> yes,  but its not working right
[08:42] <delhivery> for example.. dhcp cannot complete on eth0 on this box with the current driver
[08:43] <ikonia> delhivery: so thats not a missing driver
[08:43] <ikonia> and to be honest - that seems unlikley as I use the e1000 and e1000e driver all the time with ubuntu and have no issues with a full pxeboot situation
[08:43] <freddyb> ikonia: syslog is not particularly interesting :O http://dpaste.com/2X5MB0E
[08:43] <ikonia> which includes dehcp
[08:44] <ikonia> freddyb: excluding the usb disk, how many disks are in your system ?
[08:45] <freddyb> ikonia: just the built-in ssd
[08:45] <freddyb> ikonia: (which surprisingly shows as /dev/sdb, not /dev/sda)
[08:45] <ikonia> freddyb: please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please
[08:46] <freddyb> ikonia: ah, since a reboot (or two) the internal one shows as sda. sorry for the confusion. fidsk pastebin is coming...
[08:46] <philip> hello......i keep getting this message:sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu on my terminal
[08:47] <ikonia> freddyb: no problem
[08:47] <freddyb> ikonia: http://dpaste.com/3C6Q66Q
[08:47] <ikonia> philip: have you tried to change the hostname on your ubuntu machine ?
[08:47] <ikonia> freddyb: yeah, that second disk isn't seen at all is it
[08:47] <freddyb> ikonia: aye :-/
[08:48] <philip> no i have not
[08:48] <freddyb> ikonia: fwiw, I looked through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingUSBStorage but it's not really helpful
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> !hostname | philip
[08:48] <ikonia> ok - lets take a clearner look, delete the syslog totally, unplug the usb disk and reboot, login and do nothing more, come back to me when you've done that
[08:49] <philip> lotuspsychje:pls i dont really get
[08:50] <ikonia> philip: can you show me the output of the command "hostname" please
[08:50] <philip> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[08:50] <freddyb> ikonia: will do
[08:50] <ikonia> philip: can you show me the output of the command "hostname" please
[08:50] <freddyb> ikonia: reboot without plugging in the usb device?
[08:51] <ikonia> freddyb: correct
[08:51] <philip> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[08:51] <philip> [sudo] password for dolphin:
[08:51] <philip> ubuntu
[08:51] <ikonia> philip: stop saying that
[08:51] <ikonia> pleasae just show me the output of the command "hostname"
[08:52] <freddyb> ikonia: syslog after reboot without usb hdd plugged in: http://dpaste.com/1VSQBR6
[08:52] <philip> ubuntu
[08:52] <hero100> head /etc/hosts
[08:52] <cristian_c> lol
[08:52] <ikonia> freddyb: what is that kernel
[08:52] <ikonia> philip: ok, now show me the output of the command "uname -a" please
[08:52] <philip> Linux ubuntu 3.16.0-23-generic #31-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 21 17:56:17 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:53] <ikonia> philip: ok, so both hostnames match, great
[08:53] <ikonia> philip: do you know how to use a pastebin ?
[08:53] <freddyb> ikonia: sorry, if you did not get this. as I said earlier, I had to bake my own kernel to make (among others) the thinkpad x250 touchpad and display-port multiple screens working.
[08:53] <philip> yes i know....
[08:53] <hero100> philip, do you have a line with <IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu in /etc/hosts?
[08:53] <ikonia> freddyb: and in that point, I'm not going to take this forward
[08:54] <ikonia> freddyb: you build your own kernel = your own support
[08:54] <ikonia> philip: great, can you put the file /etc/hosts into a pastebin please and share the link
[08:54] <freddyb> ikonia: if I boot the ubuntu kernel and get same error - may I come back? ;-)
[08:54] <KurisuIRC> /boot/efi fails to mount on start, how can i fix this?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !efi | KurisuIRC
[08:55] <ikonia> freddyb: depends what else you've changed
[08:55] <philip> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10614247/
[08:55] <ikonia> philip: what is dolphin
[08:55] <ikonia> philip: who put these entries in your host file
[08:55] <freddyb> ikonia: well, I blacklisted the "uas" module, as suggestd by http://askubuntu.com/questions/50866/external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-is-not-recognised-when-plugged-into-usb-3-port
[08:55] <philip> dolphin is my username
[08:55] <ikonia> philip: why is it in the /etc/host file
[08:56] <philip> ikonia:i have knoe idea why its there.
[08:56] <KurisuIRC> I tried reinstalling it before, but the same issues occured.
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> maybe he made both username and host dolphin?
[08:56] <ikonia> philip: is this your machine ?
[08:56] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: that is possible, but then hostname and uname show it as ubuntu
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> yeah thats weird indeed
[08:57] <philip> yes....but i ssh to a machine of which i get the message
[08:57] <ikonia> philip: just answer the questions
[08:57] <ikonia> philip: is this your machine
[08:57] <KurisuIRC> The only way I can get it to boot is by recovery, then manual startup
[08:57] <philip> yes its my machine
[08:57] <ikonia> philip: did you install/set it up
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: can you give us details of what you trying to do?
[08:57] <philip> nope
[08:57] <ikonia> philip: who did ?
[08:58] <KurisuIRC> Of how it won't boot, or what I have to do to get it to boot?
[08:58] <philip> sorry i did set it up...i didnt get the question earlier
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: you want a clean install of ubuntu, or dualboot?
[08:58] <ikonia> philip: ok - someone has changed the file /etc/hosts - who did this
[08:58] <KurisuIRC> I'm currently dualbooting
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | KurisuIRC
[08:58] <philip> i dont think so..because am the only one currently using it
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: and other os is win8?
[08:59] <KurisuIRC> Other is OSX
[08:59] <ikonia> philip: it has been changed
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> ah ok
[08:59] <philip> pls how can i resolve the issue
[08:59] <ikonia> philip: either this file has been changed (which I can see it has) or you have tried to change the hostname
[08:59] <ikonia> philip: if you answer the questions we will get to how to resolve it
[09:00] <philip> i dont remember me changing hostname
[09:00] <philip> but if thats the case.what is the best way to resolve it
[09:00] <hero100> add one line: "<IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu"
[09:00] <ikonia> philip: ok - as you don't know what's happened to your machine and iti has been changed at a basic level
[09:00] <philip> okay
[09:00] <ikonia> philip: I suggest you backup your data and re-install your system to a known good state
[09:00] <KurisuIRC> So what should I do lotuspsychje ?
[09:00] <ikonia> and pay attention to what you are changing
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: not sure, never did dualboot with osx sorry
[09:01] <KurisuIRC> I'm sure Mac's screwed up some EFI stuff.
[09:01] <KurisuIRC> I ran boot-repair but that broke it further
[09:01] <philip> ikonia: with that particular issue hope it doesnt affect anything
[09:01] <ikonia> philip: it will have a significant impact on a lot of things
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: can you still enter grub?
[09:01] <ikonia> philip: hence why I advice you to backup any data you want and re-install
[09:02] <KurisuIRC> Yes.
[09:02] <Chetic> how can I get the pid of something that is listed as "/bin/bash /home/chetic/foo" in ps aux? pidof foo and pidof /home/chetic/foo don't work for me
[09:02] <KurisuIRC> But if I boot into "Ubuntu", it gets stuck
[09:02] <ikonia> Chetic: what is it exactly you are running
[09:02] <philip> okay.thanks....but wat if i change the hostname
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: maybe try the recoverymode and sudo update-grub
[09:02] <ikonia> philip: you should not change the hostname
[09:02] <philip> okay..
[09:02] <ikonia> philip: your machine is in a questionable state as you don't know what you've chaged
[09:02] <KurisuIRC> Tried that, fails to mount /boot
[09:02] <ikonia> changed
[09:03] <philip> okay.thanks
[09:03] <philip> one more question p3p1 is the same as eth0
[09:03] <ikonia> philip: yes
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: how about the failsafeX or fixbrokenpackages?
[09:04] <KurisuIRC> failsafeX just plain up doesn't run, fixbrokenpackages works t
[09:04] <xy> hey guys, my first time here
[09:04] <KurisuIRC> Welcome xy, mine too :3
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: wich ubuntu version did you dualboot with?
[09:05] <KurisuIRC> 14.10
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: you could try a 14.04 over it perhaps?
[09:06] <KurisuIRC> That'd take a long while, crappy Australian Internet is crappy
[09:06] <KurisuIRC> :(
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: or try nomodeset on your 14.10
[09:06] <KurisuIRC> How would I go about that
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | KurisuIRC
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: but if recoverymode gets stuck, not sure if you will be able to fix
[09:08] <KurisuIRC> Recovery Mode loads fine
[09:08] <KurisuIRC> Just unsure what to do from there.
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: failsafeX or fix broken packages
[09:08] <KurisuIRC> Server Terminated with error (1)
[09:09] <KurisuIRC> for FailSafe
[09:09] <cristian_c> Hello
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: what kind of grafix card do you have?
[09:09] <KurisuIRC> Intergrated
[09:09] <KurisuIRC> Intel HD 3000
[09:09] <cristian_c> I own a tp-link tl-ps310u. I've configured it and I've added the printer via system-config-printer, but when I try to print, after few seconds the print is stuck
[09:09] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: try the nomodeset maybe
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: have you been able to boot ubuntu before?
[09:11] <KurisuIRC> It worked on First Install, then after that, it's just failed to mount boot
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: ok, try nomodeset first if that doesnt work i would try install14.04 over it
[09:13] <KurisuIRC> it's still repairing packages
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> ok
[09:13] <KurisuIRC> there's... alot
[09:13] <KurisuIRC> lol
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> that can take a while
[09:13] <freddyb> ikonia: I booted the old kernel and reverted my modifications to modprobe.d/blacklist.conf :-) all is vanilla, and I rebooted without plugging it in. this is dmesg: http://dpaste.com/3EAVV2B and this is syslog http://dpaste.com/0M41VVN
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: wich guide did you follow to dualboot with osx?
[09:14] <KurisuIRC> Let me find it, brb
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[09:14] <freddyb> ikonia: would really appreciate if you could find the time to take another look
[09:15] <ikonia> freddyb: so that looks a cleaner more "standard" start up
[09:15] <ikonia> freddyb: tail the syslog and plug the usb disk in
[09:16] <ikonia> freddyb: lets see what it adds
[09:17] <freddyb> ikonia: I was gonna copy&paste something but then...kernel panic
[09:18] <ikonia> freddyb: wow
[09:18] <freddyb> ikonia: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000...f0 (next line) IP: _raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0x1f/0x70
[09:18] <hsbzh__> hello
[09:18] <ikonia> freddyb: don't know what that actually means without context, spin_lock can be a disk related error I 'think'
[09:18] <hsbzh__> is there someone who knows someting about synaptics touchpads ?
[09:19] <KurisuIRC> lotuspsychje, can't find the exact document. but it uses rEFIt, then standard ubuntu installation
[09:19] <ikonia> (must stress think as I'm working from memory)
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: ok no sweat
[09:19] <freddyb> ikonia: I would go for a similar interpretation
[09:19] <ikonia> freddyb: worth checking that though
[09:19] <ikonia> freddyb: see if you can repeat it
[09:19] <freddyb> ikonia: fwiw, the usb hdd works fine on 14.04.2 lts
[09:19] <freddyb> ikonia: I know I can...gimme a sec ;-)
[09:20] <KurisuIRC> Just finished repairing packages lotuspsychje, now on a black screen.
[09:20] <KurisuIRC> oh the monitor timed out
[09:20] <KurisuIRC> <.<
[09:21] <freddyb> ikonia: fwiw, the newer kernel didnt show the panic, but I suppose that's of little value to us here :-P
[09:21] <ikonia> freddyb: agreed
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: so you cant boot? what about grub?
[09:21] <KurisuIRC> it just gets stuck on the Ubuntu screen
[09:21] <KurisuIRC> because it can't mount /boot
[09:21] <KurisuIRC> or something or rather
[09:21] <freddyb> ikonia: I'll summarize & type down the syslog additions into a pastebin, with some typos added. I hope that less interaction with the buggy device means less kernel panic. is a bit less accuracy OK with you?
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> KurisuIRC: any errors if you press F1
[09:22] <KurisuIRC> ill let you know when this finishes
[09:22] <freddyb> ikonia: ah nvm. it panicked again, I think....the screen went fully black now.
[09:22] <ikonia> freddyb: interesting something isn't happy there at all
[09:22] <freddyb> ikonia: aye :/
[09:27] <freddyb> ikonia: I plugged it in and out again, so we get at least something. pastebin coming :-)
[09:27] <ikonia> freddyb: super, thank you
[09:28] <freddyb> ikonia: http://dpaste.com/1VQ1B32
[09:29] <ikonia> freddyb: loads of errors there
[09:31] <freddyb> ikonia: it would appear as a device error to me - if it wouldnt work so well on my other machines ;-)
[09:31] <ikonia> freddyb: certainly looks that way
[09:31] <mikaeil> Hi
[09:31] <ikonia> freddyb: looks like a ton of errors, but I assume this works on other machines just fine ?
[09:31] <mikaeil> Salam
[09:32] <mikaeil> Kesi Hastesh ?
[09:32] <KurisuIRC> lotuspsychje repair packages worked! it booted fine :)
[09:32] <KurisuIRC> thanks so much x)
[09:32] <mikaeil> Iran ?
[09:32] <mikaeil> Iran
[09:32] <mikaeil> Kesi Nistesh Irni Inja ?
[09:32] <freddyb> ikonia: yes, works fine on ubuntu 14.04.2 lts for example
[09:33] <freddyb> ikonia: this disk is where I store my backups. I wanted to migrate the data to this newer machine..
[09:33] <ikonia> freddyb: out of interest, does the situation change if you put it into a usb2 port
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> !yay | KurisuIRC
[09:33] <KurisuIRC> Hehe
[09:33] <freddyb> ikonia: also, a kingston 32GB usb thumb drive works fine too. must be the spinning disk that doesnt like it
[09:34] <ikonia> freddyb: the fact that it can't do any of the sense commands is interesting
[09:34] <freddyb> ikonia: "unfortunately" the machine has no usb2 ports anymore. just 2 times usb3
[09:34] <ikonia> freddyb: frustrating
[09:34] <freddyb> ikonia: I tried the other port just for fun. same error and now the screen is black
[09:35] <freddyb> ikonia: it only got as far as "uas_sense_old: urb length 27 disagrees...etc.
[09:36] <freddyb> ikonia: should I try blacklisting the uas module?
[09:36] <ikonia> freddyb: could do, but gut feeling is thats not the problem
[09:36] <freddyb> ikonia: this looks interesting too? http://askubuntu.com/questions/61010/cant-mount-external-laptop-hdd-on-laptop
[09:36] <ikonia> freddyb: read tgat earlier, not convinced by that
[09:38] <philip> hello am trying to install ubuntu desktop for 400gb.i want to partition it
[09:38] <cristian_c> lol
[09:38] <ikonia> philip: ok, what's the problem
[09:38] <ikonia> cristian_c: ?
[09:38] <philip> wat is the best directory and gb space to use
[09:39] <philip> i want to divide my partition
[09:39] <ikonia> philip: there is no "best" as you partition it up how you want to use it,
[09:39] <freddyb> ikonia: thanks for looking at the whole thing with me. really appreciated. I'll do some poking here and there and will let you know if I get anywhere
[09:39] <philip> i dont want to use the entire disk
[09:39] <ikonia> freddyb: please do, if you want to talk more - come back to me
[09:39] <ikonia> philip: ok, partition it up, to sizes you feel you want to use
[09:39] <philip> am only doing for /downloads,root an home
[09:39] <philip> is it coo
[09:39] <philip> cool
[09:40] <ikonia> it's up to you, /downloads is a non-standard location, but you can use it if you want just fine
[09:41] <mcphail> freddyb: is your usbhd getting sufficient power to spin?
[09:42] <freddyb> mcphail: that's an interesting question. how would I know if it doesnt? :-)
[09:43] <mcphail> freddyb: usually the only way you know is that it doesn't work on one machine but does on others...
[09:43] <ikonia> freddyb: if its working on other machines without power, it's safe to assume it's getting enough power
[09:43] <ikonia> more so if it's a disk designed for mobile use and it's using a usb port
[09:43] <ikonia> doesn't IBM have a yellow port for the higher powered USB3s
[09:43] <ikonia> or is it light blue
[09:43] <mcphail> ikonia: many usb ports don't meet the spec and can't power a spinning disk
[09:44] <ikonia> mcphail: agreed,  but thinkpads do
[09:44] <mcphail> ikonia: even usb3 which _should_ be enough
[09:44] <ikonia> and I thought he said he was using a thinkpad
[09:44] <mcphail> ikonia: i have an old usb2 disk caddy and an old thinkpad at work which needs 2 usb inputs (power and data) to spin the disk
[09:45] <ikonia> mcphail: "old" is the key there
[09:45] <freddyb> ikonia: the x250 has a blue and a black usb3 port. both have the "SS" (superspeed?) usb logo
[09:45] <mcphail> ikonia: true
[09:45] <ikonia> he's on a modern one
[09:45] <mcphail> ikonia: i still wouldn't trust it to meet spec
[09:45] <ikonia> freddyb: the blue ones are normally the higher power ones from memory
[09:45] <freddyb> ikonia: the black one also has a battery icon next to it. i think it's the one that also provides power if the device is in hibernation
[09:45] <ikonia> and the yellow ones are powered even when the power is off
[09:45] <freddyb> ikonia: it crashed on both, though :-)
[09:48] <freddyb> even if I had one of those usb-y-cables, I dont think I could attach it. the ports are about 12 inches away from each other :-/
[09:52] <Guest61294> hello gents good morning
[09:54] <Guest61294> Quick question about vivid vervet.. just installed it on my macbookpro 8,1 (been using ubuntu for a long while on it as my default OS) for some reason it boots into something that looks like a phone OS.. none of the shortcuts are working i can't get a terminal to start using the standard shortcut , I was expecting to boot into unity or something similar.. Any suggestions please? I am writting this from
[09:54] <Guest61294> TMUX at the moment .. i had to dive into the terminal with ALT F1
[09:55] <ikonia> Guest61294: try the #ubuntu+1 channel
[09:56] <cfhowlett> !mac | Guest61294,
[09:56] <Guest61294> blah blah blah
[09:56] <akaWolf> how to install Wayland at Ubuntu 14.04?
[09:56] <Guest61294> ]It's allready installed
[09:56] <Guest61294> all i need to know why it boots into the stupid phone mode where i can't do anything
[09:57] <freddyb> ikonia, mcphail: less kernel panics with the uas module blacklisted. not sure if that's getting us anywhere..
[09:57] <cfhowlett> Guest61294, it's not released. it's not supported in this channel.
[09:57] <Guest61294> wow.. politics.. politics politics cfhowlett
[09:58] <akaWolf> guys, how to install Wayland at Ubuntu 14.04? can someone say me?
[09:58] <ikonia> freddyb: may improbe things, but I don't think thats the root issue
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !vivid | Guest61294, clearly you didn't read the fine print ...
[09:58] <deffrag> Hello! What does this line in auth.log means - 03/17/15 09:48:07 AM System1 unix_chkpwd[9819] password check failed for user (sys) - ?
[09:58] <Guest61294> does anybody has any idea on what's going on or are we just gonna stick to the script?
[09:58] <ikonia> Guest61294: if you use #ubuntu+1 channel people are happy to talk about it
[09:58] <Ben64> Guest61294: you should actually read "the script"
[10:00] <akaWolf> awww
[10:00] <freddyb> ikonia: this is what syslog gets me http://dpaste.com/0CW5MVQ
[10:00] <akaWolf> what is the status of Wayland in Uuntu?
[10:00] <Guest61294> dude.. Ben64 .. i did read the script i have no problem with the script.. I was just curious as of why i can't get  the terminal to work or anything else on the phone interface.. i wanted to TRY the new improved Ubuntu vivid vervet.. it's so easy to open an other window in tmux and install openbox straight away.. i was just curious about the new vivid..
[10:00] <akaWolf> b
[10:00] <Guest61294> anyways..
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !wayland | akaWolf
[10:01] <ikonia> Guest61294: try #ubuntu+1 lots of room to discuss in there
[10:01] <akaWolf> really?
[10:01] <akaWolf> I want to try wayland, not  Mir
[10:02] <Guest61294> ikonia rgr that.. is just that that room seem to be a little bit silent
[10:02] <Guest61294> :)
[10:02] <ikonia> Guest61294: get a dicussion going
[10:03] <Gorilla_No_Baka> sure why not.. i will get a discution going with the lovely bots
[10:03] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[10:03] <freddyb> Gorilla_No_Baka: the best way to start a discussion is to mention your favorite editor
[10:03]  * freddyb hides
[10:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> freddyb: lol i hate vim.. i am a lazy cn*t and i prefer nano
[10:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[10:04] <freddyb> oh god
[10:04]  * freddyb runs
[10:04] <BRG> i wanted to built a site but i use limited bites internet. I am looking for any app that could help me to create website without hosting provider. could you guys help me out with it???
[10:05] <k1l> akaWolf: wayland is included in ubuntu since most flavours will use that since their desktops denied to support MIR.
[10:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> BRG try the website channel .. apparently that's the way it's gonna be from now on@
[10:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[10:06] <k1l> akaWolf: but wayland is still in the develoment stage. so dont expect a regular desktop that is working like the old xserver one
[10:07] <akaWolf> k1l: so is it in the off repository?
[10:08] <k1l> akaWolf:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wayland&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all
[10:08] <k1l> that is included already. but i am not aware of a "click here to run everything with wayland" button since its all very unstable
[10:09] <akaWolf> k1l: looks like it's a marketing..
[10:09] <akaWolf> not a technical problems
[10:13] <ikonia> akaWolf: it's not install and forget
[10:13] <ikonia> as I understand it it's only a partial implementation
[10:17] <k1l_> you still need a desktop that works on wayland to get walynad running usefully
[10:20] <alarig> Hi, I have a problem with apt. I can’t install some latex packages. http://paste.aliens-lyon.fr/raw/TkB
[10:20] <akaWolf> ikonia, k1l_ it's awful
[10:20] <ikonia> akaWolf: ? and ?
[10:20] <alarig> And my tex-common is installed in version 4.04
[10:22] <Kuro-Maii> hello, is there someone awake who knows how to use jack?
[10:22] <k1l_> alarig: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[10:22] <keags> Jack audio?
[10:22] <Kuro-Maii> yes
[10:23] <keags> What are you trying to do?
[10:23] <Kuro-Maii> understand it to begin with....
[10:23] <Kuro-Maii> other than that,
[10:24] <Kuro-Maii> I want to spilt all audio playing software and get a fine control over what progam is getting send to OBS
[10:25] <keags> OBS?
[10:25] <newbieAlert> hey is there any way to tell how much tiem a process will require to complete and how mych ahs been givent o it by the CPU>>
[10:25] <newbieAlert> ??
[10:25] <Kuro-Maii> obs -> https://obsproject.com/
[10:25] <alarig> k1l_: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[10:26] <Kuro-Maii> obs is a program that I use to stream to twitch with
[10:27] <k1l_> alarig: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin please
[10:27] <keags> So you want it to only be getting audio from specific applications
[10:28] <Kuro-Maii> I can only select 1 (one) audio channel from my system and any number of mics
[10:28] <Kuro-Maii> basicly yes
[10:28] <k1l_> alarig: and please pastebin the /tmp/fmtutil.BE9in8vQ
[10:29] <keags> Have you checked is ALSA can do this for you
[10:29] <Kuro-Maii> the one audio channel that I can select , by the way contains ALL system audio
[10:30] <Kuro-Maii> I have tried that as well, and I could not figure it out...
[10:30] <Kuro-Maii> might have something to do that I can't seem to get rid of pulseaudio...
[10:31] <keags> Sure well i have taken a llok at the documentation and it appears as though it works in a similar way to an x server
[10:31] <Kuro-Maii> (when I don't have pulse it seems that 50% of my software can't play audio anymore..)
[10:31] <keags> I have never used it that extensivley however if you give me  few mins i will see if i can find out more
[10:32] <deffrag> !help fail2ban
[10:32] <Kuro-Maii> thank you
[10:32] <alarig> k1l_: http://paste.aliens-lyon.fr/raw/VeK
[10:36] <k1l_> alarig: see if the answer will help you too. make sure to adjust the packages used there to your needs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/508173/problem-configuring-texlive-base
[10:36] <forever3> I have ubuntu server 14.04 installed on a device. I connected a USB ethernet adapter (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IZA09SU) but it doesn't appear to be working by itself - do I need to run some commands? My switch is showing an orange light for the port while yellow is for gigabit. The device doesn't appear to be visible on the network. What should I do?
[10:38] <keags> Hwy Just watched this http://tinyurl.com/mph4585. He gives a great explination of what jack is and runs through an ubuntu based tut
[10:39] <Kuro-Maii> thank you keags, I will take a look and let you know how it turned out. ^.^
[10:42] <keags> Loks like if you can track down the hardware addresses for the applications you want to connect you can route them into eachother. To make it easy to visualize as you are configuring picture the hardware addreses or ports as physical ports and the applications and devices.
[10:45] <cfhowlett> keags, "if" :)
[10:48] <kanha> Hello, how it can fix this http://dpaste.com/34A9GHJ?
[10:50] <k1l_> kanha: please show a "apt-cache policy libepoxy0" in a pastebin
[10:51] <kanha> k1l_: here http://dpaste.com/2FDJW4Y
[10:51] <k1l_> so you installed a 3rd party .deb which now breaks the depencies
[10:52] <kanha> yes
[10:52] <k1l_> remove that 3rd party debs there is no other way around that
[10:53] <cristian_c> The server has disconnected me
[10:54] <cristian_c> Has anyone answered to me?
[10:56] <Kuro-Maii> thank you keags, he seems like he actually knows what he is doing. ^.^
[10:56] <cristian_c> I don't know if the lines were sent
[10:56] <cristian_c> Can you confirm?
[10:56] <k1l_> cristian_c: there is no question from you
[10:56] <Ben64> cristian_c: instead of asking about the time you asked, why not just ask the actual question?
[10:57] <cristian_c> k1l_, ah, ok
[10:57] <cristian_c> I ask again, then
[10:57] <Kuro-Maii> I will be checking out his other videos to see if I can actually set it all up as I allready know audio will bork up in the mean time and thus avideo won't be as much help...
[10:57] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, actually, any question that contains "has anyone ...?" should just be explicitly and quickly asked
[10:58] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:58] <cristian_c> so, i ask again, cfhowlett
[10:59] <cristian_c> I own a tp-link tl-ps310u. I've configured it and I've added the printer via system-config-printer, but when I try to print, after few seconds the print is stuck
[10:59] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:01] <zszdz> l
[11:01] <zszdz> witam
[11:02] <cristian_c> ?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> !pl | zszdz
[11:03] <cristian_c> I'm very unluchy, I don't know if anyone has answered
[11:03] <cristian_c> *unlucky
[11:04] <newuser789> apart from being LTS or not meaning long/short term support, whats the difference between ubuntu 14.04.02 and 14.10 ? why should I go for any one of two and which one ?
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> newuser789: i like 14.04
[11:04] <Ben64> newuser789: thats pretty much the only difference
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> newuser789: but that depends on you only, how much you want to upgrade or not
[11:05] <k1l_> cristian_c: if you dont have a stable internet connection better ask on askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.com
[11:05] <keags> If you are new and would like the stability you should go with the LTS. Else if you know linux well it will make do difference
[11:05] <cristian_c> k1l_, I'm try to make it stable
[11:05] <cristian_c> *I'm trying
[11:06] <cristian_c> k1l_, so, I'd like to know if anyone has answered to me, in the meantime
[11:06] <newuser789> there must be security updates and other bug fixes but any differences regarding interface changes, user experience, settings, apps, etc ?
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> !logs | cristian_c
[11:07] <zermanno> ubuntu-server
[11:07] <cristian_c> lotuspsychje, ok, but they are not updated in realtime
[11:07] <k1l_> cristian_c: please stop that join, "has anyone answered", quit, join, "has anyone answered", quit,...... dance
[11:07] <newuser789> what I mean is a difference like between win98 and xp, xp and win7, win7 and win10
[11:07] <cristian_c> k1l_, no, this time the question was visible
[11:08] <cristian_c> not the last time, as you said
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> newuser789: check the releasenotes of every version online
[11:08] <keags> No you will not see such dramastic changes. If there are things about the new gui you like you will be able to install them.
[11:09] <newuser789> ubuntu 14.04.03 should be coming out in april ?
[11:09] <sabgenton> I assume its fine to move everything in sources.list to  /etc/apt/sources.d/file{1,2,3,4}
[11:09] <sabgenton> ?
[11:09] <k1l_> newuser789: no
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> !vivid | newuser789
[11:10] <sabgenton> anybody? :)
[11:10] <cristian_c> anyway, I don't know if this is happened
[11:13] <k1l_> sabgenton: no
[11:13] <sabgenton> k1l_: it's not fine?
[11:13] <k1l_> sources.list is for the official ubuntu repos. sources.list.d is for the 3rd party stuff
[11:14] <sabgenton> yeah I know
[11:14] <hmp1768> Hi folks, this isn't a technical question per se, but I'm sure you people will help me sort that out. The point is, I'm almost giving up Linux in general, and Ubuntu in particular. I want a distro that 'just get's out of my way (tm)', and installed ubuntu because of that,  but I got fed up of trying to solve every quirk here and there. I'm starting to think that Linux is not for the desktop.
[11:14] <sabgenton> k1l_:  but will it break or be the same
[11:14] <hmp1768> Did my message truncate?
[11:14] <k1l_> sabgenton: it will break. dont mess with the sources
[11:14] <Ben64> hmp1768: didn't seem like it, but not sure why you're telling the Ubuntu support channel that
[11:15] <k1l_> newuser789: 14.04.3 is due in august. 2015
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> hmp1768: ubuntu can't be responsible for the users action
[11:15] <k1l_> hmp1768: if you want tehcnical help ask in here. if you want to discuss join #ubuntu-offtopic . if you want to rant only start a blog :)
[11:15] <hmp1768> Ben64: I'm just looking for someone to help me not loose my motivation, so I thought that here could be a good place.
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> hmp1768: ask one question at the time to getting solved
[11:16] <sabgenton> k1l_: really?  I just wanted to know for tecnical understanding I'm not going to purely becuase its more organised
[11:16] <vivid> sabgenton, it should work
[11:16] <sabgenton> k1l_: are you just FUDing me
[11:16] <sabgenton> vivid: ok then he is
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> !sources | sab little more info here
[11:16] <k1l_> sabgenton: its the way all the updaters and upgrades expect the things to be located.
[11:16] <vivid> sources.list and <source>.list in souces.list.d is the same thing
[11:16] <k1l_> sabgenton: please stop that attitude.
[11:16] <Ben64> vivid: it is not the same thing
[11:17] <k1l_> vivid: no. i just explained why you are giving false advice
[11:17] <hmp1768> lotuspsychje: I'm not blaming Ubuntu for y actions, but I can blame it for not working at all with bluetooth for example
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> hmp1768: if you have issues on bluetooth, you could have come here to solve
[11:17] <vivid> k1l_, excuse me? dont think i was talking to you
[11:17] <k1l_> hmp1768: that depends on the hardware used. i dont have any trouble with bluetooth.
[11:17]  * lotuspsychje hides
[11:18] <Ben64> hmp1768: if you have a question, ask it. ranting will never solve anything
[11:18] <k1l_> vivid: it doesnt matter if you give false advice.
[11:18] <sabgenton> k1l_: ok so  it may brake things looking for the lines  to alter them but it will work? (I'm not going to do it I just want to understand)
[11:18] <vivid> k1l_, what are you explaining to me i dont understand
[11:18] <hmp1768> lotuspsychje: I had come, for the past week, and was ignored, even if I've hanged here for a couple of hours each time
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> hmp1768: a little more patience is advised here
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth > hmp1768 read up this
[11:19] <hmp1768> Ben64: Sir I apologize if it looks like I'm just ranting, it's not my intention. I'd just like to have some advice oh the keep motivated thing, not just technical issues
[11:19] <Ben64> hmp1768: this is the support channel, not the motivation channel, definitely not the complaints department
[11:19] <k1l_> sabgenton: you could change all the sources into sources.list.d but it will not survive any upgrade or any possible updates that change the sources before
[11:20] <sabgenton> thanks
[11:20] <cristian_c> ok, I've looked at the log, and it's logged until 11:05 utc, so until that time no answers are received, ok
[11:20] <sabgenton> ok so the two locations  me  nothing to apt  there the same  in that regard