[20:16] <jrib> ttl-: should be saved in gnome keyring afaik
[20:16] <ttl-> jrib: yes
[20:17] <ttl-> jrib: i only have a backup of the my home directory
[20:17] <ttl-> -the
[20:17] <Hackbat> I've been fighting 12.04 trying to get my AlFA dongle working.
[20:18] <jrib> ttl-: did you try using seahorse (maybe there is some other gui way to access the keyring but I don't know it)?
[20:18] <ttl-> jrib: where are the keyring files stored in 12.04
[20:18] <Hackbat> I have a card that works with it but it's only G and it's like 10% of the speed of the alfa
[20:18] <ttl-> jrib: command line is fine too :)
[20:19] <jrib> ttl-: I don't know the default location of the file
[20:19] <jrib> ttl-: if you've copied them to your new home, seahorse should just find them
[20:20] <jrib> ttl-: check ~/.gnome2/keyrings
[20:22] <Vorenii> anyone know howto fix sound through my speakers on a imac?
[20:23] <kesi> Is this an okay channel to ask for help with apache on Ubuntu? I suspect I'm just missing something simple
[20:23] <Pici> kesi: here or #httpd.  Give it a shot here and we'll see if we can help.
[20:23] <jrib> kesi: yes, there's also #httpd if you're asking an apache-specific question
[20:24] <kesi> Well, I did the LAMP install and had the same problem so I guttted it and started over with just apache2. When I have the default site, it works. When I try to set it to my own site, I get 403 errors. Followed these directions:
[20:24] <kesi> Well, can't paste but from the help.ubuntu.com
[20:26] <kesi> I used a2ensite and a2dissite to enable mine and edited the file. I think the permissions are right
[20:26] <Pici> kesi: did you restart apache afterwards?
[20:26] <kesi> Pici, many times
[20:26] <kesi> Pici, no errors
[20:27] <fkm> kesi: That one is (IMO) for #httpd
[20:27] <Towanda> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh0woT7NkKI
[20:27] <Pici> kesi: Can you pastebin your site file? (be sure to santitize any sensitive info)
[20:27] <raincomputers> I keep getting aptdaemon crashes. Any fix for this?
[20:27] <Pici> Towanda: do not post random links here
[20:27] <Towanda> ok
[20:27] <kesi> Pici, sure. You mean the one that I used to change the home directory?
[20:28] <Pici> kesi: Whatever you enabled with a2ensite
[20:29] <kesi> Pici, http://pastebin.com/mf1CgLV1
[20:30] <Pici> kesi: can www-data read files in /home/blah/public_html/
[20:34] <kesi> Pici, what perms do I need? I think it's 755 right now and owned by blah
[20:34] <Vorenii> anyone know howto fix sound through my speakers on a imac?
[20:35] <pbuckley> is anyone getting audio popping from pianobar in ubuntu 13.04?
[20:36] <kesi> The help page didn't mention any permission changes but I remember having some sort of problem before
[20:36] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: you have Ubuntu on the imac?
[20:37] <Vorenii> yes, but i have sound through my speakers
[20:38] <angelo__> hello, i've just read a tread dated 2008 about a bug in nautilus that you cannot be warned if you press canc on a file, it moves into trash without the option to asking if you are sure to move the file into trash. Could please somebody tell me how can i get such a basic function on my 12.10 distro?
[20:38] <ncsquid22> so, what is the problem Vorenii?
[20:38] <enapupe> Is there a ppa for the latest intel graphics?
[20:39] <ncsquid22> enapupe: check upubuntu.com
[20:39] <Vorenii> Ncsquid the problem is that i have no sound :D
[20:39] <enapupe> ncsquid22: checking..
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> enapupe  start here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[20:40] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: If you have an aluminum iMac and you do not have sound : open /etc/modprobe.d/options : sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/options and add "options snd-hda-intel model=imac24" to the file and save ( ctrl+o and ctrl+x to exit ) then reboot.
[20:40] <bianca> can anyone help me, i keep getting this internal system error?it says evolution-calendar-factory crashed with SIGSEGV
[20:40] <enapupe> Another thing, my computer is not powering off anymore after kernel upgrade... it goes to: [somenumbers] Power off.  and halts so I have to unplug from the power source
[20:40] <Vorenii> thank you ncsquid22 ill try that right away
[20:40] <ncsquid22> I will be here Vorenii. Let me know
[20:42] <ironhalik> is there any additional software for synaptics touchpads?
[20:42] <enapupe> You people suggest to update ubuntu kernel to 3.7?
[20:42] <Vorenii> brb ncsquid22
[20:43] <g105b> How do I find out how much ram and vram is in my laptop?
[20:43] <g105b> (running 12.10)
[20:43] <enapupe> g105b: free -m ?
[20:43] <pbuckley> free
[20:43] <vifanq> How to configure wifi ?
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> enapupe  the current kernel is 3.5 (12.10), anything beyond that needs a ppa and is not officially supported
[20:44] <pbuckley> dmidecode
[20:44] <g105b> what does that tell me, enapupe? http://pastie.org/5826830
[20:44] <pbuckley> you have about 4gb of ram
[20:44] <enapupe> yeah
[20:44] <angelo__> Guys, it's really amazing to me that an operating system as powerful and flexible as Ubuntu won't even give me the option to request a dialogue box before deleting items with one keystroke
[20:45] <enapupe> 1.3gb used, 2.3gb free - 3.5gb of cached stuff
[20:45] <edgabaldi> can i get non-free packages in ubuntu?
[20:45] <g105b> pbuckley, enapupe, how much vram?
[20:45] <angelo__> I can't figure this out, as many other ppl did.. no fix already since 2008, huh?
[20:45] <enapupe> 1.3gb used, 2.3gb free - 3.5gb (used with* cached stuff)
[20:45] <jhutchins> angelo__: Which desktop are you running?
[20:45] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, no luck.
[20:45] <enapupe> angelo__: Swap
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> edgabaldi  sure, the software center contain commercial programs
[20:45] <enapupe> angelo__: 8gb swap, nothing in use
[20:45] <g105b> enapupe, what's confusing me is how to differentiate between vram and ram?
[20:46] <ncsquid22> is your imace 24 or 27?
[20:46] <ncsquid22> Vorenii?
[20:46] <Vorenii> 24
[20:46] <craigbass1976> What's the ubuntu equivalent of the old Fedora service network restart ?  I'm trying to get a new address from the dhcp server.
[20:46] <Vorenii> in windows I know the sounddriver is something with CircusLogic blabla
[20:46] <enapupe> angelo__: vram = video ram
[20:46] <pbuckley> g105b: use dmidecode or lspci to get your video hardware and look it up
[20:46] <bekks> craigbass1976: dhclient ethX
[20:46] <angelo__> enapupe: wrong person
[20:46] <enapupe> ups, sorry
[20:47] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: you might wanna check this out:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac
[20:47] <angelo__> jhutchins: nautilus, gnome  12.10
[20:47] <enapupe> g105b:  vram = video ram
[20:47] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: go to Sound
[20:47] <craigbass1976> bekks, is ther eone to just bring everything down and back up again?
[20:47] <g105b> enapupe, I know, what do you mean?
[20:47] <bianca> hey guys i have an at graphics card, a 7950, and i need to get this package somehow = lib32-catalyst-utils
[20:47] <bianca> but i cant find it
[20:47] <enapupe> g105b: what kind of video card do you have?
[20:47] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, I am there mate.
[20:48] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, tried all 3 options , tested them with volume loud open.. and nothing
[20:48] <jhutchins> angelo__: Edit/Preferences/Behavior
[20:48] <angelo__> jhutchins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/95853
[20:49] <enapupe> bianca: check this out http://pkgs.org/download/lib32-catalyst-utils
[20:49] <angelo__> jhutchins: you cannot fix this like that
[20:49] <jhutchins> angelo__: Yep, select a delete command that requires confirmation.
[20:49] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: Ubuntu version?
[20:49] <bianca> enapupe will this work if i have the drivers from the ati website installed
[20:49] <Vorenii> 12.10
[20:50] <jhutchins> angelo__: Since the trash must be emptied manually, this is not the default.
[20:50] <enapupe> bianca: I have no idea, but zip file should fix the hole for the  lib
[20:50] <angelo__> jhutchins; ok, i will have confirmation do delete the file forever, not a confirmation to move it to the trash
[20:51] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, i see my right audio dive @ alsamixer
[20:51] <angelo__> jhutchins: how good is a trash can if i'm not even sure what's in there cause i might have che canc key pressed by mistake since it's so close to the up arrow?
[20:52] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: This looks promising.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443020
[20:52] <jhutchins> angelo__: You can find the patches that address this on nable.
[20:52] <bianca> enapupe can you tell me how to install .tar.xz files?
[20:52] <Hackbat> I'm having some trouble getting my alfa card running on 12.04
[20:52] <angelo__> jhutchins: do you happen to know where i can find them?
[20:52] <jhutchins> angelo__: my up arrow key has nothing on three sides of it.
[20:52] <jhutchins> angelo__: Google.
[20:53] <jhutchins> angelo__: I forget what I used, something like nautilus confirm delete.
[20:53] <angelo__> jhutchins: k thanks, i will look for that
[20:53] <enapupe> angelo__: I saw what you are looking for sometime ago, didn't activated it, but, I guess it was a native otion
[20:53] <enapupe> option*
[20:54] <angelo__> enapupe: it is not, since '08: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/95853
[20:55] <jemadux> i have ubuntu lts and ubuntu 13.04 alpha on my machine .. i want the grub to boot directly lts version and not 13.04 .. how to solve thay?
[20:55] <bianca> how do i move something as super user in terminal?
[20:55] <bianca> i need to move a whole folder and merge it with another
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> jemadux  #ubuntu+1
[20:55] <constrictor> I am getting unable to find suitable address error when trying to mount a NAS share any help
[20:55] <constrictor> ?
[20:55] <enapupe> angelo__: oh, that sucks
[20:56] <angelo__> enapupe: yes it does cause it's like six lines of code
[20:56] <bianca> anyone..?
[20:57] <phiq> bianca use "mv"
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> bianca  sudo mv
[20:57] <bianca> thank you
[20:57] <Vorenii> brb another reboot
[20:58] <jemadux> MonkeyDust: it's ubuntu alltime question
[20:58] <pc05> oi
[20:58] <adriann> Hi. I have a question about installing ubuntu on a Hackintosh. Is there anyone that can help me with that?
[20:59] <pc05> UFF
[20:59] <enapupe> adriann: what do you mean? like a virtual machine? or dual boot?
[20:59] <adriann> as a dualboot.
[20:59] <enapupe> IDK, I must say I lost big time to make OSx run on a VM inside ubuntu, didn't worth it.
[21:00] <adriann> i already have both osx and windows installed on it. each on its own harddrive.
[21:00] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, that didnt work aswell
[21:00] <hilo> is there a way to set a motd message for CLI logins
[21:00] <adriann> I also have a harddrive ready for ubuntu.
[21:00] <Vorenii> great this linux stuff :')
[21:00] <ncsquid22> damm!
[21:00] <enapupe> adriann: who is controlling the boot?
[21:01] <jrib> hilo: sure, read: « man update-motd »
[21:01] <ncsquid22> I am sorry Vorenii. I might have to do some extra research....
[21:01] <hilo> jrib, ty
[21:01] <Vorenii> i threw my windows off :(
[21:01] <enapupe> adriann: I don't think you will have problems with that.
[21:01] <adriann> enapue: chameleon
[21:01] <poq> What is nouveau in xsensors? How to identify what device is it?
[21:01] <Vorenii> now im with a OS that has no sound :P
[21:01] <ncsquid22> I am sure is a module that might need to be loaded....
[21:02] <auronandace> poq: nouveau is the open source nvidia graphics driver
[21:02] <adriann> enapupe: will grub detect osx?
[21:02] <ncsquid22> mattkruse: Do you work for Panasonic?
[21:02] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, what was the link again
[21:02] <enapupe> adriann: will chameleon detect ubuntu?
[21:02] <mattkruse> No haha
[21:02] <ncsquid22> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443020
[21:02] <Vorenii> i hopen my /etc/modprobe.d/imac.conf and its empty :S
[21:02] <ncsquid22> lol..sorry
[21:03] <mattkruse> Banno.com ftw.
[21:03] <adriann> enapupe: i dont know.
[21:03] <enapupe> adriann: I think it will. Anyhow, grub is your best friend to make it work
[21:03] <ncsquid22> i think the instructions say the file needs to end with .conf
[21:03] <poq> auronandace: thanks
[21:03] <ncsquid22> so imac.conf might do it
[21:03] <enapupe> adriann: if not, you'll find a lot of docs online
[21:03] <adriann> enapupe: Ok, Thanks:)
[21:03] <Vorenii> ya but its empty ncsquid22
[21:04] <ncsquid22> awesome Vorenii: just add that line to it and reboot
[21:04] <Vorenii> whats the terminal commands again
[21:04] <Vorenii> sorry learning here mate
[21:04] <jordanrain> Hi, my login screen background is just that weird purple color. Is there a way to get my regular desktop wallpaper to show up there again?
[21:04] <ncsquid22> sorry but I have to go now.....I will be back later
[21:08] <helios> hi! sorry to bother you, but I have a question regarding ssd
[21:08] <fidel>  !ask | helios
[21:10] <helios> I bought a ssd and installed ubuntu, for whatever reason I want to reinstall ubuntu and was wondering how do I format the drive? Do I just tell gparted to format the ssd? or should I use the suggested solution here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD_Memory_Cell_Clearing and then install ubuntu? Thanks for reading
[21:10] <xentity1x> Hi, my package system is broken. When I try to run sudo apt-get install -f I get this error http://pastebin.com/tJk7FE2f. Anyone have advice?
[21:13] <SERRA> Some on is fre for chat
[21:13] <jrib> xentity1x: bug 1068165 see workaround there
[21:14] <linux111> does anyone in here use DrJava
[21:14] <Hackfox> Can anyone give me a hand with getting my ALFA card working?
[21:15] <Hackfox> I'm getting tired of using my crappy 802.11G wifi card
[21:15] <linux111> you want it on monitor mode
[21:15] <linux111> pocket injection
[21:16] <Hackfox> what?
[21:17] <Hackfox> I'm not running backtrack here man
[21:17] <un2him> stock ubuntu still rocks...tried many variants, xfce, gnome, etc, but keep coming back to Unity
[21:17] <linux111> what model
[21:17] <linux111> is your alfa usb
[21:17] <Hackfox> Unity is "Okay"
[21:17] <Hackfox> AWUS036NHR USB
[21:18] <un2him> Gnome 3 is my second favorite
[21:18] <Hackfox> It "works" but it's very sketchy
[21:18] <Hackfox> will crash at the drop of a hat
[21:18] <linux111> ok
[21:18] <linux111> what version of ubuntu
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> un2him  you mean gnome-shell
[21:19] <linux111> u running on
[21:19] <Hackfox> 12.04
[21:19] <un2him> MonkeyDust, yep
[21:19] <xentity1x> jrib, I did sudo rm /usr/share/doc/libdrm2/changelog.Debian.gz. That didn't seem to work.
[21:19] <jrib> xentity1x: pastebin what happens now.
[21:19] <xentity1x> jrib, samething
[21:19] <jrib> xentity1x: so pastebin it
[21:20] <Hackfox> I tried installing the driver from Realtek but it just threw errors...
[21:20] <xentity1x> jrib, http://pastebin.com/xWJgBDCE
[21:20] <Hackfox> errors that didn't really tell me anything
[21:21] <jrib> xentity1x: look at the error and look at the file you deleted
[21:21] <kish> how do i instalk thghe old n accelerated ubuntu desktop and ditch unity?=?
[21:22] <linux111> first download this http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[21:22] <linux111> Download the "Linux driver for Kernel 3.0.0/3.1.0/3.2.0" from the Realtek website
[21:22] <linux111> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[21:23] <linux111> than It will open in Archive Manager; extract the rtl8187L_linux_1041.0209.2012 folder to your Downloads folder.
[21:23] <auronandace> !gnome2 | kish
[21:23] <kish> !notunity
[21:23] <linux111> Open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T, and type/paste the following, one line a time:
[21:23] <linux111> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[21:23] <linux111> cd Downloads/rtl8187L_linux_1041.0209.2012
[21:23] <linux111> make
[21:23] <linux111> sudo make install
[21:24] <FloodBot1> linux111: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <xentity1x> jrib, it says there are errors in multiple changelog files. Should i delete all of them?
[21:24] <jordanrain> Hi, my login screen background is just that weird purple color.  It will open in Archive Manager; extract the rtl8187L_linux_1041.0209.2012 folder to your Downloads folder.
[21:26] <Hackfox> Dude I have the correct driver for my chipset
[21:26] <enapupe> jordan: IDK what exactly might be, but this google serach might help you
[21:26] <linux111> Open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T, and type/paste the following, one line a time: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[21:26] <xentity1x> jrib, ok i deleted all of them. Seems to be working. Thanks!
[21:26] <linux111> cd Downloads/rtl8187L_linux_1041.0209.2012
[21:26] <linux111> make
[21:26] <linux111> sudo make install
[21:26] <france> ciao
[21:26] <FloodBot1> linux111: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <Hackfox> Lets ignore that part of the site you're reading from
[21:26] <france> !list
[21:27] <kish> !WARESZ
[21:27] <jordanrain> Hi, my login screen background is just that weird purple color. Is there a way to get my regular desktop wallpaper to show up there again?
[21:27] <jrib> xentity1x: no problem.  It's not something you did by the way.  It's a bug with the way those multiarch packages work
[21:27] <jordan> enapupe: I think you're pinging the wrong person :)
[21:27] <Hackfox> How about I just go and pastebin the result of the intall.sh script
[21:27] <jrib> xentity1x: so until they fix it, it may bite you again during an upgrade
[21:27] <GA89> Hi there
[21:27] <enapupe> jordan: lightdm is the guy that provides login screen
[21:28] <GA89> could someone please help me with a little problem?
[21:28] <enapupe> yes, i'm pinging the wrong person ,sorrry
[21:28] <xentity1x> jrib, Ok well I guess I know how to fix it now.
[21:28] <helios> anyone has an advice on reformatting a ssd? or do i just reinstall ubuntu and not worry about it?
[21:29] <linux111> ok try this gksu gedit /etc/rc.local
[21:29] <kish> what do you mean by reformat
[21:29] <bekks> helios: Normally, you just reinstall, and dont reformat.
[21:29] <linux111> Add on line: Code: iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M
[21:30] <helios> I want to reinstall and then put all my data on the ssd
[21:30] <linux111> before the exit 0, save, close gedit and reboot
[21:30] <jordanrain> Hi, my login screen background is just that weird purple color. Is there a way to get my regular desktop wallpaper to show up there again?
[21:30] <bekks> helios: Which doesnt affect what I just said.
[21:30] <linux111> Code: gedit /etc/rc.local
[21:30] <linux111> Add one line: Code: iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M
[21:31] <linux111> before the exit 0, save, close gedit and reboot.
[21:31] <enapupe> jordanrain: IDK what exactly might be, but this google serach might help you: "lightdm background"
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> jordanrain: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue    please
[21:31] <helios> well I was thinking in wiping the disk and do a fresh install rahter than a reinstall
[21:31] <helios> sorry for the cnfusion
[21:31] <helios> confusion*
[21:31] <jordanrain> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[21:32] <GA89> im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 in old acer travelmate 4500 but i get unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your pc. Whats wrong and what can i doo?
[21:33] <ephesius> helios: those seem like the same thing? are you talking about moving and existing system from one hd to a ssd?
[21:34] <GA89> No suggestions?
[21:35] <ephesius> GA89: did you download the 32 or 64 bit image?
[21:35] <Mamo-chan> vlc cant play dvds here on ubuntu, it knows the dvd is there, just cant play it. Anyone?
[21:35] <GA89> ephesius: 32
[21:35] <linux111> FOUND SOLUTION!!! TO FIX JUST ABOUT ANY WIFI PROBLEM (FIXED ALL OF MINE). Go to turminal and type in: lshw -C network
[21:35] <craigbass1976> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router  I still can't route after going through this.  I can give out addresses from my internal nic, but and clients can't ping out of the lan
[21:35] <GA89> ephesius: it was a while back but im sure it was 32
[21:36] <GA89> ephesius: should i try 64?
[21:36] <Mamo-chan> no one? ;/
[21:37] <yeats> !dvd | Mamo-chan
[21:37] <helios> I already have ubuntu on the ssd, due to some problems I decided to do a fresh install: e.g. pick the option to format the drive and lose all the data on it from the ubuntu installer. Not the option to reinstall maintaing all of your data I was wondering If I should do the secure erase before doing this should I leave the installer format the disk and be done with it
[21:37] <Mamo-chan> thanks
[21:37] <ephesius> GA89: no, the 64 won't work I thought maybe you were using the wrong disk image
[21:37] <bekks> helios: In this context, "format" just means "delete the existing partitioning layout and create a new one"
[21:38] <GA89> ephesius: Nea, girlfriend needed ubuntu for studies and i downloaded 32 bit version
[21:39] <helios> yes, I suppose. So should I leave the installer to format the drive or should I secure erase it and then run the buntu installer?
[21:39] <bianca> um can anyone help me with this? mv: cannot move `/home/raven/Desktop/usr' to `/usr': Directory not empty
[21:39] <bianca> raven@raven-pc:~$
[21:40] <Mamo-chan> thanks yeats... it works now
[21:40] <Mamo-chan> :)
[21:40] <GA89> bianca: there was another command for that i think
[21:40] <GA89> i dont remeber what it was thought
[21:40] <bianca> GA89 is there a merge command?
[21:41] <GA89> bianca: not sure
[21:41] <craigbass1976> Is iptables necessary to make a router?
[21:41] <GA89> bianca: long time since i needed that
[21:41] <bianca> :(
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> bianca: do you use a GUI OS?
[21:41] <bianca> yeah
[21:42] <OerHeks> GA89, did the error say something about PAE ?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> bianca: run:   gksudo nautilus $HOME    and you can copy the data as needed
[21:42] <GA89> OerHeks: yup
[21:42] <bianca> it said i need to set permissions for nautilus to work
[21:43] <GA89> kernel requires features not present on CPU: pae
[21:44] <bianca> arghhh
[21:44] <OerHeks> GA89, i would choose workaround #3 >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present  the mini iso and install all manually with internet
[21:44] <bianca> is there a merge command?
[21:45] <GA89> OerHeks: how hard is it?
[21:45] <OerHeks> GA89, easy
[21:46] <einonm> On an upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, I've lost my clock display on the menu bar, along with the messaging icon. How can I get them back?
[21:46] <GA89> OerHeks: ok i'll try that, thanks
[21:47] <trism> einonm: are indicator-messaging and indicator-datetime installed?
[21:47] <bianca> can somoene help me merge a folder with another? i keep getting permission denyed just because it has files in it
[21:47] <trism> einonm: and is this unity or gnome-panel?
[21:47] <einonm> Checking now - it's unity
[21:48] <trism> einonm: sorry indicator-messages
[21:48] <trism> einonm: not messaging
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> bianca: anything in:  man cp   to make it merge?
[21:48] <corbolma> hi
[21:48] <bianca> people asking to build f*ing deathstar get help but i cant get help to move some files
[21:48] <corbolma> I've a problem wiht wifi
[21:49] <bianca> ActionParsnip so i put sudo man cp 'folder' 'destination' ?
[21:49] <bekks> bianca: Copy everything from A to B, then remove A. Merge done.
[21:49] <jrib> bianca: what exactly are you trying to do to /usr anyway?
[21:49] <craigbass1976> bianca, rsync might be what you're after
[21:50] <bianca> fuck linux, cant even move files
[21:50] <einonm> trism: messaging was, but datetime wasn't, I guess I need to restart to see a difference?
[21:50] <tripelb> o stiil need help with partitionin
[21:50] <trism> einonm: just log out/back in, or kill unity-panel-service
[21:50] <jrib> bianca: mind your language please.
[21:50] <corbolma> deauthenticating from
[21:50] <bianca> im trying to move stuff for my graphics over because apparently the drivers didnt incude 32 libs? or something idk
[21:50] <einonm> will do, thanks
[21:50] <ProfessorBacon> kish_: are you high
[21:50] <craigbass1976> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router  I still can't route after going through this.  I can give out addresses from my internal nic, but and clients can't ping out of the lan
[21:50] <trism> einonm: oh, indicator-messages also hides itself if no apps are using it, so that's probably why you can't see it
[21:50] <corbolma> none?
[21:51] <jrib> bianca: what are you actually trying to accomplish?  Why do you think you need to move stuff for your graphics?
[21:51] <tripelb> I stiil need help with partitioning.. patieny 2 days. have 4 partitions want 2.    (/ and swap) ram 1g
[21:52] <einonm> trism: that worked for the time, thanks. Still don;t understand why it was removed in the upgrade. Is there a way to show the messaging icon as well?
[21:53] <bianca> because whi get this error that says im missing 32 bit libarys for opwn gl when i run play on linux, and when i googled it i got linked to a package that had the 32 bit libarys apparently
[21:53] <kish> professorbacon, just shot up so ye
[21:53] <kish> does xfce4 support a second monitor
[21:53] <bianca> but i cant put them where they need to go because linux is stupid and doesnt like me accomplishing things
[21:53] <kish> a second desktop?
[21:53] <bianca> raven@raven-pc:~$ sudo rsync '/home/raven/Desktop/usr' '/usr'
[21:53] <bianca> skipping directory usr
[21:53] <bianca> that didnt do anything
[21:53] <jrib> bianca: what error?  What gives you the error?
[21:55] <bianca> play on linux says 'PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL Libaries. You might encounter problems with your games.
[21:55] <corbolma> anyone can h me?
[21:55] <snyp3r-2000> Hi everyone!
[21:55] <woo> !questions | corbolma
[21:56] <corbolma> ok
[21:56] <bianca> in windows you can just drag and drop anything whereeve you want it to go! :)
[21:56] <bianca> and apparently ubuntu has more freedom -_-
[21:57] <jrib> bianca: I'm 99% certain that you should not be copying things to /usr yourself.
[21:57] <bekks> bianca: Only when having administrative permissions, you can do so on windows.
[21:57] <corbolma> my wirless said deauthenticating from by local choice (reason=3)
[21:57] <tripelb> what is the oldest bersion of ubuntu that will see my nexus 7 on usb? should 9.04 ?
[21:57] <jhutchins> bianca: Are you on wheezy?
[21:57] <bianca> well i need it, how else am i meant to get these files in there
[21:57] <bianca> what the hell is a wheezy
[21:58] <craigbass1976> Is this still valid?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router/
[21:58] <bianca> ive spent f*ing hours trying to copy files somewhere... why is this not a thing i can just do?
[21:58] <jrib> bianca: usually one uses the package manager to install things; one does not copy files into /usr
[21:59] <jrib> bianca: you can just do it. But you shouldn't be doing it.
[21:59] <trism> einonm: indicator-messages hides itself if there aren't any apps using it, a bunch weren't ported in time so if you don't use empathy that may be why you don't see it
[21:59] <bianca> well find me the amd 32bit opengl files on the package manager and ill listen to you
[21:59] <einonm> trism: ok, thanks.
[22:00] <jhutchins> bianca: You'
[22:01] <jrib> bianca: I don't know what playonlinux wants.  But you can install the 32bit of a package by appending ":i386" to its name
[22:01] <tripelb> invisible /me wants to make a partition be bigger and does.t get bow to do it from askununtu. would like guidance
[22:01] <[snake]> hello, I am having an issue(I think major) with my package manager: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:01] <jhutchins> bianca: You've spent hours because you are trying to force a Linux box to behave like Windows and run Windows software.  Why not just run your games on Windows?
[22:01] <jrib> [snake]: pastebin the full output
[22:01] <bianca> i have the file si need
[22:01] <bianca> i cant put them in the right folder
[22:02] <[snake]> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1560907/
[22:02] <tripelb> i have been here for hours now. since 11:30 now 2p
[22:02] <jhutchins> bianca: I was asking what release of Ubuntu you're running because it makes a difference how 32b vs 64b libraries are handled.
[22:02] <jhutchins> bianca: Sorry, wheezy was the wrong term anyway.
[22:02] <bianca> im using 64 ubuntu
[22:02] <jhutchins> bianca: That's not how you do it.
[22:03] <jrib> [snake]: see workaround in bug 1068165 (note the file is different)
[22:03] <jhutchins> bianca: Yes, do you know which release?
[22:03] <Pici> tripelb: can you re-ask your question please?
[22:03] <XMLnewbi> is it bad to run nginx side by side with apache?
[22:03] <jhutchins> bianca: The system has to know it has the 32b libraries and know where to look for them.
[22:03] <bianca> 12.10
[22:04] <[snake]> jrib I ran the sudo apt-get install -f like they said, and that is the output. I was installing ia32-libs-gtk when it happened.
[22:04] <jhutchins> xlnt.  Let me check some details for you.
[22:04] <jrib> [snake]: did you read the bug report?
[22:04] <bianca> i found  this in the software center ATI binary X.Org driver
[22:04] <jrib> bianca: what do you mean by "this"?
[22:04] <bianca> apparently it breaks unity but better than nothing i guess
[22:04] <MichaelP> ubuntu 12.04 LTS sence it's long term does it get the newer kernels and other newer packages of 12.10. or is it always going to stay behind ?
[22:04] <[snake]> jrib, reading it now
[22:04] <bekks> MichaelP: yes.
[22:04] <bianca> jrib what are you talking about
[22:05] <bekks> MichaelP: But it willbe supported much longer than 12.10
[22:05] <jrib> MichaelP: the kernels are backported to LTS releases (apt-cache search -n linux-image backport)
[22:05] <jhutchins> bianca: Try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[22:05] <jrib> bianca: I'm trying to understand what you say.
[22:05] <bianca> this is a word commonly used in the english language,
[22:05] <k1l_> MichaelP: the focus is not on the newest releases of the software
[22:05] <tripelb> my phone says that it is connected via USB and yet LSUSB does not show my phone what am I missing?
[22:05] <jrib> bianca: I know what the word means.  I'm asking what "this" refers to.
[22:06] <yakusa48> which one is better LAMPP (ubuntu) or XAMPP for Linux (apachefriend)?
[22:06] <jrib> !lamp | yakusa48
[22:06] <MichaelP> So the concept of LTS is like debian.. Working on it longer to make for a more stable system ?
[22:06] <bekks> yakusa48: Neither nor. Just install the according ubuntu packages.
[22:06] <jrib> yakusa48: use the lamp setup ubottu described; that way you get updates from the repositories
[22:07] <bianca> the thing i said after it
[22:07] <blablub234> hi. does somebody know why theres no efi loader on the ubuntu 12.10 x64 netinstall? (mini.iso)
[22:07] <jrib> bianca: ok
[22:07] <jrib> !who | bianca
[22:07] <k1l_> tripelb: depends on the phone i guess. some new phones use mtp
[22:07] <bianca> jhutchins do i have to restart after?
[22:07] <k1l_> bianca: do you actually want some to help you or do you only want to flame and rant?
[22:07] <linux111> your phone "ttyACM0"
[22:08] <bianca> im not flaming and ranting, i asked about 3 million questions and got nowhere so i stated some facts :)
[22:08] <jhutchins> bianca: Sholdn't.  Using apt-get should reload what's needed.
[22:08] <[snake]> jrib, ok that helped. I think it's working now.
[22:09] <jhutchins> k1l_: Patience, we're getting there.
[22:09] <linux111> /dev/ttyACM0
[22:11] <bianca> has anyone here seen all aussie adventures XD russell coight really knows his stuff xD
[22:11] <hamed> is there any way to reconfigure the graphic driver via command line in ubuntu? without connecting to the internet?
[22:11] <hamed> is there any way to reconfigure the graphic driver via command line in ubuntu? without connecting to the internet
[22:11] <hamed> ?
[22:11] <jrib> hamed: reconfigure it for what?
[22:12] <bianca> jhutchins its still giving me the error
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> hamed: what do you mean by 'reconfigure'
[22:13] <hamed> the low graphics mode dialog appeared in booint
[22:13] <hamed> booting*
[22:13] <hamed> and i can just access the command line
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> hamed: and what video chip please?
[22:14] <hamed> intel integrated
[22:14] <hamed> ubuntu 12.04
[22:14] <tripelb> k1l_:  layers of issues. i want to get lubuntu.iso off my necus 7 and onto any cd or flash dr. then i can make a livecd. i have livecd's of 9.04 also 11.04 but this celleron has trouble with the graphics.  thanks. -- after thay i will meed to chang my partitions to install over failed install, i didnt assign a swap.    f my
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> hamed: the driver is in a default install.
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> hamed: could try reinstalling the intel driver package
[22:15] <hamed> but i can't access the GUI
[22:15] <folorn> ive decided that theirs no hope skype will not install on ubuntu anyone else just give up :) lol or had issues putting skype on their machine?
[22:15] <OptimizedCoder> I'm seeing a samba share - but I do not know where it is coming from. Any way of finding this out?
[22:16] <DJones> tripelb: Have you tried the Airdroid app on the N7 to get access via wifi instead of cable?
[22:16] <yakusa48> thanks for your reply
[22:16] <dingo311> the only way i can run alsamixer is with the sudo command. i change the perms but they dont stick past a reboot...any ideas
[22:17] <jhutchins> bianca: It _should_ be able to find them, but at this point you probably have to look at some playonlinux support for how it wants to do it.  You might end up doing symlinks.  Also, dpkg -L ia32-libs and see what it put where, see if it got the glx libs.
[22:17] <tripelb> djones no wifi on gift old computer or in houser
[22:17] <tripelb>  this is lowest budget operation.
[22:18] <GA89> OerHeks: got to partitioning and it shows just usb, any suggestions?
[22:18] <DJones> tripelb: Ouch
[22:18]  * tripelb is on phone mow
[22:19] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: Come again?
[22:19] <tripelb> i know dj. i feel like the graveyard of computers so i got the nexus but it is limited until i root it.
[22:20] <tripelb> no I must go take the bus
[22:20] <tripelb> now
[22:20] <GA89> SonikkuAmerica: im installing ubuntu with minidisk (from net) and got to partitioning, and it only shows usb flash, not any other hard drives
[22:20] <bianca> http://pastebin.com/c90BxC1i
[22:20] <bianca> jhutchins http://pastebin.com/c90BxC1i
[22:21] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: OK, is that the text installer?
[22:21] <aupiff> hello, everyone. I am having a pretty weird problem with my ubuntu. I have executables in a dir that is part of my path and as I type in the commmand names, I can even tab complete them. However, when I try to actually execute the commands, i get a bash error saying that the file isn't found. any ideas?
[22:21] <jisawesome> raven_, Mine just installed automatically with the 6450
[22:22] <jisawesome> what version of ubuntu are you using
[22:22] <GA89> http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present im using 3. option
[22:22] <aupiff> precise
[22:22] <bianca> argh
[22:22] <GA89> made boot usb
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: Do you know if the minidisk has a PAE?
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: (Physical address extension) Some don't.
[22:23] <GA89> shouldnt have
[22:23] <GA89> im using this because got dont have pae error
[22:24] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: Do any of the suggestions on the page work for you?
[22:24] <GA89> well im trying step 3 now
[22:24] <GA89> havent tried other
[22:24] <ephesius> aupiff: do you have execute permission on them?
[22:24] <OerHeks> GA89, oke, check your bios, see if your HDD is set to IDE or AHCI, choose ahci. this could be the problem not seeing the hdd in linux
[22:25] <craigbass1976> Is this still valid?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router/  I've followed the walkthrough but can't ping out to the wan from a client on the lan.
[22:25] <kish> !notunity
[22:25] <jhutchins> bianca: You don't have to restart Linux.  You probably have to restart whatever process is running under linux to support the games.
[22:25] <GA89> OerHeks: ok i will check
[22:25] <bianca> i did restart it
[22:26] <craigbass1976> hey dr_willis , just the person who might know the answer...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router/  I've followed the walkthrough but can't ping out to the wan from a client on the lan
[22:26] <bianca> ill restart my pc anyway and see what happens, brb
[22:26] <dingo311> the only way i can run alsamixer is with the sudo command. i change the perms but they dont stick past a reboot...any ideas
[22:26] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Are you using the Live DVD/USB?
[22:26] <jhutchins> Annnd jhutchins gets caught in the scrollback again.
[22:27] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: no, server 12.04
[22:27] <yak_king> I have a printer connected to home network via wifi. Just downloaded driver... anyone mind walking a complete linux noob through a driver installation?
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> yak_king: Be glad to via PM if no one else wants to
[22:27] <jhutchins> Ok, really lame on the ia32-libs.
[22:28] <lain__> I'm running Xubuntu but using Fluxbox. Even though I have nm-applet on stratup, the Internet connection often doesn't work? What other process do I need to run upon startup? Strangely, if I log out and log into XFCE and then log back into Fluxbox, the Internet works. Thanks for any help.
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Typically a ia32-libs problem workaround is to install wine.
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> yak_king: is it a standalone wifi printer, or is it hooked up to another pc?
[22:28] <yak_king> standalone
[22:28] <GA89> OerHeks: im starting to think there is no hdd or maybe its just dead :D cant find any options for it on boot menu
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> yak_king: can you ping the printer?
[22:28] <coldmate> DEOP coldmate
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> lain__: when it doesn't work, is nmapplet running ok?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> lain__: have you considered trying wicd (assuming you dont use 3G)?
[22:29] <lain__> ActionParsnip: Yes, it is running and it shows that I am connected, and I can see the icon.
[22:29] <lain__> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll give that a try.
[22:29] <GA89> OerHeks: thanks for help, im going to sleep, will try again tommorow :)
[22:30] <yak_king> Parsnip... I think you helped me on forums with an upgrade to 12.10 LOL I'm Buddy
[22:30] <yak_king> anyway... if it was you on forums you already know... I am completely illiterate when it comes to linux lol... how do I ping printer?
[22:30] <Baribal> Hi. I'd like to use the master archives (I need a package really urgently which hasn't mirrored to my repo yet). What do I need to replace de.archive.ubuntu.com by in sources.list?
[22:31] <k1l_> Baribal: just cut of the "de."
[22:31] <bianca> still not working.. obviously the drivers ont the ati website are bogus
[22:31] <Baribal> Thanks.
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> yak_king: same as in windows, ping ip.address.of.printer
[22:31] <k1l_> Baribal: but you can set this in the gui too
[22:31] <yak_king> ok great... lemme get printer to print out network info and will try that then pm you if that's ok
[22:32] <Baribal> k1l_, I'd rather not ssh -X into a bandwidth-stingy university. :)
[22:32] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:  cant ping anything on the network - but the internet and stuff works?
[22:32] <bianca> where do i get my ati drivers from?
[22:33] <craigbass1976>  dr_willis I'm on the "router" pc right now.  My laptop though can't ping the external ip of this box.
[22:33] <k1l_> bianca: what is wrong with the ati drivers that come in the repos?
[22:33] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:   could be the router pc is not responding to pings
[22:33] <bianca> whats a repops?
[22:33] <bianca> whats a repos?
[22:33] <dr_willis> !repo | bianca
[22:33] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, my internal ip is
[22:33] <k1l_> bianca: repository
[22:34] <jhutchins> bianca: repository (of ubuntu packages).
[22:34] <bekks> craigbass1976: The external IP is normally not pingable from within a network.
[22:34] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:  so the only issue is the pinging? or are there other problems?
[22:34] <bianca> i got my drivers from the ati website and its missing the 32bit libarys
[22:34] <jhutchins> bianca: the ia32-libs package causes several others to install, but I can't tell if it includes the glx stuff.  Seems to be pretty much everything.
[22:34] <k1l_> Baribal: well :)  i just mentioned because most users will find it easier to do this within the gui
[22:34] <jhutchins> bianca: What program gives you this error?
[22:35] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, no traffic at all is getting through this box from the lan.  I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> from here, but agian not from the laptop.  And can't browse, ssh, check email, etc from the lan either
[22:35] <Baribal> k1l_, so do I, and that'd be what I'd have tried locally. :) But on this machine, no dice.
[22:35] <jhutchins> bianca: The OLD answer - the one that worked - was to build a 32b install for running 32b, either as a multi-boot or a VM.
[22:35] <bianca> whaat..
[22:35] <bianca> can linux do anything..
[22:35] <jhutchins> bianca: Asking the ATI drivers to do multiarch when multiarch is not really working yet is a lot.
[22:36] <bianca> so what do i do? just not have open gl? let my $300 graphics card go to waist?
[22:36] <jhutchins> bianca: I haven't used windows as anything but a dumb terminal to run linux since 2004.
[22:37] <rasabin> hello how are people the linux
[22:37] <jhutchins> bianca: You play games written for linux, or somethng like steam's new stuff.
[22:37] <jhutchins> bianca: What program is complaining about the 32b libs?
[22:37] <bianca> how can i play games with no renderer
[22:37] <k1l_> jhutchins: i think the program used is playonlinux
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> bianca: linux does lots
[22:38] <jhutchins> bianca: You have a renderer.  You wouldn't expect to run the games on a mac.
[22:38] <bianca> exceot utilize my graphics card
[22:38] <bianca> mac has plenty of games
[22:38] <bianca> steam supports mac
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> bianca: which video chip do you have?
[22:38] <jhutchins> Seriously, why run Windows games on a Linux box anway?  Run them in Windows.
[22:38] <bianca> 7950
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> bianca: steam supports linux, they also recommend using linux too
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> !ati | bianca
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins: He might be trying to run a 16-bit app in a 64-bit env which doesn't work
[22:39] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: did you see my reply? i am on server 12.04
[22:39] <nander> does anyone here have experience with vsftpd?
[22:40] <bekks> nander: Why?
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: I did, sorry I didn't respond
[22:40] <nander> I want to limit anonymous access to a certain ip-range, while keeping all ip's open for authenticated traffic
[22:40] <nander> the ip-range is a /16 ipv4 range
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> bianca: you don't need to manually download the driver, or visit any site and download them
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Weird. Are other changes in other programs persistent
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[22:40] <bianca> i give up
[22:40] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: its all good, i see you are busy
[22:41] <mikemonk> which terminal emulator would you recommend for windows? are there better alternatives than putty?
[22:41] <jhutchins> SonikkuAmerica: THe problem is the 32b ATI drivers in a 64b env, and I don't even know that it's a problem, but it's certainly a stretch to run software on the wrong OS on the wrong arch.
[22:41] <bianca> this is just me repeating myself over and over and over and over and over and over
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> bianca: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[22:41] <jhutchins> bianca: Steam also supports linux now.
[22:41] <bianca> idk what that means
[22:41] <bekks> nander: Never heard of a setup like that - and you cant distinguish between authed/anon access until the user finally authed/used anon access.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> bianca: in a terminal, run the command. What is output?
[22:42] <jhutchins> ActionParsnip: She's on 12.10.
[22:42] <bekks> nander: So technically, you cant close IPs for anon access.
[22:42] <nander> damm..
[22:42] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: seems to be, alsamixer is the only thing i'v tried and got that error, this is a fresh install too. installed ssh, apache, a few other things and nothing else.
[22:42] <nander> So I have to choose to block anon access or to use ip tables and block users I want to be able to authenticate?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> bianca: ok, then run:  sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle     and reboot. Done.
[22:43] <bianca> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> bianca: did you do that?
[22:43] <bianca> yes
[22:43] <bekks> nander: Correct. Thats because you only know wether a user uses anon access AFTER entering the credentials.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> bianca: have you tried running: sudo aticonfig --initial
[22:43] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Weird.
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: What sound driver does it currently use?
[22:44] <bianca> Found fglrx primary device section
[22:44] <bianca> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:44] <bianca> Saving back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> bianca: have you used that command before?
[22:44] <bianca> no
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> bianca: but its on the how to guide made by canonical for your GPU, so why not?
[22:46] <bianca> ? i dont know what your talking about
[22:46] <dirkounet> hello
[22:47] <bianca> i didnt do a guide, i just got the linux 86, 64 bit drivers from the ati website
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> bianca: The command is on the guide for ATI GPUs for Ubuntu. Surely this would be the FIRST page you went to.....
[22:47] <dirkounet> maybe someone can help here. Trying to connect my usb-stick to ubuntu 12.10, but nothing is mounted, no icon on desktop etc
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> bianca: logically
[22:47] <bianca> SORRY THAT I DONT KNOW EVERY WEBSITE EVER CREATED
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> dirkounet: is it a 3G stick?
[22:47] <dirkounet> but its listed when doing lsusb
[22:47] <bianca> dick.
[22:47] <k1l_> ActionParsnip: i think there was the old windows driver install way back in mind
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> bianca: but a simple web search would have showed you, you don't have to know every page
[22:48] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: this is the code i use "sudo chmod -R a+rwX /dev/snd"
[22:48] <SonikkuAmerica> dirkounet: Try [ sudo mount <whatever the location of the USB stick is> ]
[22:48] <k1l_> !language | bianca
[22:48] <codephobic> hi
[22:48] <dirkounet> ActionParsnip: do not think so, manually mounting works
[22:48] <Dice-Man> hello how to configure my keyboard on 12.10 ?
[22:48] <k1l_> bianca: people are trying to help you. so calm down
[22:48] <Dice-Man> sometimes some touches are locked
[22:48] <Dice-Man> like ctrl
[22:48] <Dice-Man> alt gr
[22:48] <Dice-Man> or #
[22:48] <FloodBot1> Dice-Man: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <dirkounet> i simply want to have an automount (for the iphone it works without doing anything)
[22:48] <bianca> no hes just harassing me
[22:49] <codephobic> How do I get Ubuntu's boot menu to find an install of Debian on my system?
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: I'm not familiar with that switch syntax... can you give me a numeric equivalent for (-R a+rwX)?
[22:49] <sw> Hi, if I have a 512 MB / 1 CPU / 20 GB SSD Disk server, should I run 12.10 32-bit or 64-bit?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> bianca: instead of trying to guess how things work in an OS you are clearly not versed with, why not try and find guides on how to do it properly, you'll be less frustrated when what you think is how something is done doesn't work
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: 777 maybe?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> bianca: i gave you the official how to, and you clearly haven't read it
[22:49] <bianca> im not finding this guide your talking about
[22:49] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: "sudo update-grub" should see it.
[22:49] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: alsa says the card is nvidia, chipset  Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
[22:49] <k1l_> bianca: no he is not. dont take it personally that something doesnt work like you thing it should be
[22:50] <bianca> well thats a lie you did no such thing
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> sw: I'd go for xubuntu 32bit or Lubuntu 32bit
[22:50] <dirkounet> SonikkuAmerica: as i said, mounting manually works
[22:50] <bianca> your pissing me off and not helping
[22:50] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, I tried that but doesn't pick up the debian install
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> 22:38 < ActionParsnip> !ati | bianca
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: That's the GPU, not the sound card
[22:50] <sw> ActionParsnip: No desktop environment, server ... Definetly 32-bit though?
[22:50] <rbookhouse> When my pc does absolutely nothing (even when its been doing nothing for hours) the hard disk light still blinks every 2 seconds or so... is there a way to completely stop the light blinking (without physically cutting the connection) - the pc is in a bedroom and its very annoying
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> bianca: right before you wrote 'i give up'
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> dirkounet: Oh, I see.
[22:50] <codephobic> I installed debian on a second hd (sdb) but within a logical partition. I'm not sure if that affects anything.
[22:50] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Is os-prober installed?
[22:50] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, hmm not sure, how would I check?
[22:51] <Dizzle> rbookhouse put a piece of tape over it?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> sw: if the cpu is 64bit then i'd go 64bit
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: "sudo apt-get install os-prober"
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> bianca: anyhoo, try a reboot now
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: If it is, it won't do anything. if it isn't it'll install.
[22:51] <rbookhouse> Dizzle, that doesn't stop it blinking
[22:51] <codephobic> ah, k I'll check now
[22:51] <Dizzle> rbookhouse sorry i was under the impression the light was bothering you
[22:51] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: i thought so
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Which distro did you install second?
[22:52] <codephobic> seems to be already installed
[22:52] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, I installed debian squeeze.
[22:52] <rbookhouse> Dizzle, it does - but i want it to stop blinking - not hide the fact its blinking
[22:52] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: After Ubuntu?
[22:52] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, yes
[22:52] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: When it asked to install a boot loader, did you pick no?
[22:53] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, the problem is that I didn't install grub at the end of the debian install... I figured Ubuntu's grub2 would pick it up, but not working.
[22:53] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: in alsamixer, i press f2 for sys info and it closes
[22:53] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, I did pick "no", thinking grub2 (ubuntu) would find it.
[22:54] <codephobic> instead grub2 finds old (removed) instances of debian and ubuntu, rather than the fresh install
[22:54] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Can you run update-grub and post the output to pastebin?
[22:54] <codephobic> I think I need to clean up grub
[22:54] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: I'll take a look.
[22:54] <codephobic> k, one moment
[22:54] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: this is where i got the chmod code: http://plethoracomputers.com/index.php/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,277/catid,4/func,view/id,89/
[22:54] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: You could also try reinstalling grub in Ubuntu.
[22:55] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, I tried that
[22:55] <countley> is there a good speech recognition  for ubuntu
[22:55] <codephobic> (as well as update-grub), but neither have found debian.
[22:55] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Can you post it to pastebin?
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> countley  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechRecognition
[22:56] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, http://pastebin.com/CWrRkQBz
[22:57] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: 00:07.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1) /per lspci
[22:57] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: I know your problem.
[22:57] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, oh?
[22:57] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Boot into the top 3.2.x kernel. I think grub is seeing Debian as another Ubuntu install.
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> countley  here's more http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2014005
[22:57] <codephobic> oh
[22:57] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: That may fix it. If not, idk
[22:57] <codephobic> hmm, that's interesting.
[22:57] <codephobic> ok, I'll give it a go now
[22:58] <codephobic> thanks for the help katsumeblisk :)
[22:58] <bianca> same issue
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: I just got burned. Weird.
[22:59] <countley> MonkeyDust cheers
[22:59] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: ouch, what all did you miss?
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica>  SonikkuAmerica: 00:07.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1) /per lspci <<< That.
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> bianca: can you run:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep fgl     and pastebin the output please
[23:04] <bianca> http://pastebin.com/vGQZ3pk6
[23:04] <bianca> wait what
[23:05] <bianca> why does it say the clock is 22 mhz
[23:05] <bianca> 33*
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> bianca: driver=fglrx_pci    driver is loaded
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> bianca: not sure. I've seen high end cards say similar. I wouldn't sweat it
[23:06] <bianca> it should be like 800mhz?
[23:06] <bianca> well its still giving me the error
[23:07] <k1l_> which error?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> bianca: i have buddies with decent nvidia cards with the same output
[23:07] <k1l_> and who is giving it?
[23:07] <bianca> are you kidding me?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> bianca: try installing super tux cart, or something like that
[23:07] <Ben64> bianca: dude. chill out
[23:08] <bianca> sick of repeating myself
[23:08] <ephesius> its a public channel people come and go
[23:08] <MondayMondayMond> bianca:  way to speak to a bunch of people volunteering their time
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> bianca: again, have you ried super tux cart (or similar)
[23:08] <dr_willis> it pays to be verbose on IRC -  messages can appear out of order. and people constantly get disconnected/reconnected
[23:09] <k1l_> bianca: i think you should try to make a support thead in the ubuntuforums. i dont think that is gonna take a good end here on irc :/
[23:09] <bianca> well you were here every time someone asked me
[23:10] <bianca> and people ask then say nothing
[23:10] <vitimiti> hi
[23:10] <bianca> peoand yous kepe making meput  all this stuff in terminal but ive got nowehere
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> bianca: do other 3D games run ok?
[23:10] <bianca> wait i have to download something
[23:11] <k1l_> bianca: we dont know what you did and what is actually going on there. so we need to ask to get a clue
[23:11] <Xen> I am wondering about software raid setup on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, I have a raid failure and in messing around I screwed something up.  I am wondering about how it should be setup.  I have a large partition and small one on each disk (swap section and data sections) and I am wondering, how they should be combined in raid.  ie: small with small, or large with small and vice versa)
[23:11] <vitimiti> I have this message when logging in my system, and I'd like to know if it's a big deal or if there's any solution, since i can't seem to finde anything about this http://pastebin.com/L8xnCTvz thanks beforehand
[23:11] <k1l_> bianca: i really recommend you to use the forums for support, since you dont seem to like the way irc works.
[23:11] <dr_willis> Hmm. Dont usb3 hds have smart info? noticed thats greyed out in the disk manager tool for my new USB3 3TB hd..
[23:12] <bianca> kick me then
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> vitimiti: what is the output of:  uname -a
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> bianca: try other 3D games, like super tux cart
[23:12] <bianca> I AM
[23:12] <vitimiti> ActionParsnip, Linux vitimiti-K53U 3.5.0-22-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 21:47:00 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:12] <k1l_> bianca: i just want you to stop making the drama.
[23:12] <bianca> stop repeating yourself
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> bianca: cool, let me know how you go
[23:13] <Ben64> dr_willis: they do have smart info, but not everything can see it from usb
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> bianca: you never replied to me
[23:13] <bianca> i did
[23:13] <bianca> all 3 times
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> vitimiti: are you using an Asus K73TA?
[23:13] <ephesius> bianca: if you had responded and told him you were trying it he wouldn't have asked over and over
[23:13] <dr_willis> Ben64:   that may be why i thought i saw it on other usb hds.. got a new HD.. wanting to sort of test it out.. its a bit noisy and clcks when i first power it up. but from what reviews ive seen.. its just a loud noisy drive.
[23:13] <vitimiti> ActionParsnip, an ASUS-K53U
[23:14] <dr_willis> Ben64:  getting these days where i dont trust HDs very much. ;)
[23:14] <Ben64> i know what you mean
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> vitimiti: possibly related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1019417
[23:14] <bianca> omg im not talking anymore, everyones so fucused on telling how to use a f*ing chatroom instead of helping
[23:14] <dr_willis> and this is supposed to be my backup drive. ;)  getting  80MB/s to it via usb3 to usb3
[23:14] <vitimiti> ActionParsnip, thanks, let me check it :)
[23:15] <Ben64> bianca: because you don't seem to know how to respond to people without an attitude
[23:15] <bianca> = hours of getting nowhere
[23:15] <MondayMondayMond> bianca: somebody has a case of the mondays
[23:15] <dr_willis> thats what often happens with cutting edge hardware. - linux support/drivers have not caught up with the hw quirks.
[23:15] <Ben64> bianca: i looked back about 40 minutes, and most of it is you complaining. if you put the same effort into trying to solve the problem, maybe you'd be done by now
[23:16] <heywood> planning to enable openssh-server on my home server running 12.04.1 LTS. the box sits behind a firewall router running NAT. root is disabled (as per ubuntu default); one user account that is listed in sudoers.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> bianca: are there bugs reported?
[23:16] <bianca> in windows, i could have literally just moved the files i need to the right place, you cant do that in linux :)
[23:16] <heywood> question is, is it considered best practice to make a separate account, with a super-strong password, for access from the outside?
[23:16] <bianca> i havent finnished downloading yet, my internet is slow
[23:17] <Ben64> heywood: you should have a good password anyway, but you can use your normal account
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> bianca: gksudo nautilus $HOME    you can put any file anywhere
[23:17] <bianca> it didnt work it said i havent set permissions for nautalis
[23:17] <bianca> like i said like an hour ago
[23:17] <Ben64> yes, because we all saw what you wrote an hour ago :|
[23:18] <heywood> Ben64: existing password is pretty strong (mixed case, punctuation, numbers) but i'm paranoid about it not being strong enough when the box is exposed to the intarwebs.
[23:18] <Dice-Man> hello people
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> bianca: then run:  sudo -i   and you can cp the files where you want
[23:18] <Ben64> heywood: it would be a good idea to change the ssh port. lots of bots run scans on port 22
[23:18] <heywood> Ben64: perhaps i should just change my existing password to the very long one?
[23:18] <Dice-Man> how to configure my keyboard please ?
[23:19] <Ben64> heywood: put on fail2ban, combined with your already good password, and you should be fine
[23:19] <bianca> Error moving file: Permission denied
[23:19] <bianca> i need to merge folders
[23:19] <heywood> Ben64: thought about that too. router can do port forwarding, so i could forward a random high-numbered port (WAN) to 192.168.xx.yy:22 (LAN), specifying the machine running sshd. would that plus fail2ban be sufficient?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: what make and model keyboard please?
[23:20] <bianca> omfg its my os why the hell cant i do what i want?
[23:20] <Ben64> heywood: yeah, it'd take billions of combinations to figure out your password, and fail2ban doesn't give them that many tries :)
[23:20] <k1l_> bianca: what are you trying to copy from where to where?
[23:20] <bianca> om, the repeating myself thing again
[23:20] <k1l_> bianca: stop that!
[23:21] <bencc> what is precise-backports repo?
[23:21] <Ben64> bianca: if you haven't said it in the past 5 minutes it didn't happen
[23:21] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: i guess the chmod would be 777
[23:21] <k1l_> bianca: answer the easy questions or leave the support channel if you dont want to recieve help
[23:21] <heywood> Ben64: ok, thanks. out of curiosity, is there a way to assign a (very long) password to an account when accessed via ssh, and a regular one when accessed at the console? would that even make sense?
[23:21] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Yeah
[23:21] <heywood> (sorry -- very much a noob at security. just paranoid, maybe.)
[23:21] <bianca> im trying to merge a usr an ect folde ron my desktop with thoughs in my /
[23:21] <Ben64> heywood: well..... you could disable passwords and use keys instead, even more secure
[23:22] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: i thought you asked what the number equivilant would be
[23:22] <heywood> Ben64: is there a tutorial for that somewhere?
[23:22] <Ben64> heywood: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[23:22] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Yeah, I looked it up
[23:22] <heywood> Ben64: specifically, i'm not sure how that would work for access from the machine's keyboard directly (i.e. physical access)
[23:23] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: But I don't know about that NVIDIA audio chip.
[23:23] <Ben64> heywood: well password would still work locally, just over ssh you'd need the key
[23:23] <bianca> but you cant do that in linux because it has a babyproofed commandline
[23:23] <MondayMondayMond> bianca: sudo..
[23:23] <bianca> i did sudo
[23:23] <bianca> you still cant
[23:24] <SonikkuAmerica> bianca: [ sudo -i ] first before the command maybe?
[23:24] <bianca> because the move command cont comprehend or wrap its head around the idea of the folder already exsisting in the destination, and having files in it already?! outragious
[23:24] <k1l_> bianca: can you show the command you used?
[23:24] <heywood> Ben64: ah, OK, that would be perfect. i'm fine creating a key for remote access (which i will probably only ever do from my one and only laptop). local login w/ existing PW would be just fine.
[23:24] <bianca> and apparently theres no merge command.. sooo.. its impossible to merge folders in linux
[23:25] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: me either, didnt have this issue on desktop version ever...maybe not related but ssh keys dont seem to be working and earlir today i could not access anything but everything was running. a reboot fixed that, but then i realised i needed sudo for alsa again
[23:25] <bianca> no i cannot
[23:25] <nathan_> is there anyway i can setup ssh server so that whereever it is in the world i can connect to it WITHOUT having to modify (open port 22 ) on the router??
[23:25] <geoff__> I am stuck in here and can't get out - what command should I use - thanks heaps
[23:25] <overdub> bianca, rsync can merge directories
[23:25] <k1l_> bianca: last time: stop that ranting. that is not gonna help you anyway and just making users forget your real problem!
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> bianca: if you run ath amd catalyst control centre, do you get any errors etc?
[23:25] <overdub> or at least sync one directory to another
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: you need to open the port on the router, or the connection will be dropped
[23:26] <k1l_> geoff__: want to leave the irc? or just change to another channel?
[23:26] <bianca> no?
[23:26] <heywood> bianca: you could try cp -i. that would effectively allow you to merge two directories without overwriting (or with selective overwriting). of course that would take a long time if you have many files.
[23:26] <geoff__> leave channel
[23:26] <k1l_> geoff__: /part
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> bianca: does it show the driver in use and so forth?
[23:26] <geoff__> thanks kil
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: its the nature of NAT which all router use
[23:27] <bianca> i forgot the move command, and i want to overweight
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> bianca: mv  is the move command
[23:27] <overdub> oh my bad, don't want to overwrite existing files, rsync might not work for you then
[23:27] <bianca> yes
[23:27] <heywood> bianca: mv -f will force overwrite. add a sudo if you have permissions issues.
[23:27] <bianca> clock = 1250 :3
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> bianca: but the driver is in use and so forth
[23:28] <k1l_> ActionParsnip: playonlinux and some other game was the inital problem, irrc
[23:28] <heywood> Ben64: anyway, thanks for the link. i think i'll change the password to something even longer anyway, and stick to key-based access for 99% of the time.
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> bianca: maybe its steam being wierd then , if open gams run ok then its a wine issue (check appdb for compatibility)
[23:29] <bianca> root@raven-pc:~# mv -f '/home/raven/Desktop/usr' '/home/raven/Desktop/etc' '/'
[23:29] <bianca> mv: cannot move `/home/raven/Desktop/usr' to `/usr': Directory not empty
[23:29] <bianca> mv: cannot move `/home/raven/Desktop/etc' to `/etc': Directory not empty
[23:29] <Ben64> why are you trying to overwrite stuff in /usr and /etc anyway
[23:30] <heywood> Ben64: heck, i can always do admin stuff locally from the laptop even if i'm sitting next to the machine. easier than having to type the very long PW over and over again (i have the screen set to lock after only a few minutes)
[23:30] <bianca> it has fine compatibility
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> bianca: you will need to copy the files from within those folders to the folders themselves if you cannot find a merge command
[23:30] <bianca> what...
[23:30] <heywood> bianca: mv -f /home/raven/Desktop/usr/* /usr/* maybe?
[23:31] <dr_willis> or use the 'mc' file manager as root. ;) thats what i normally do for cli needs
[23:31] <heywood> bianca: but that really will overwrite stuff in /usr ... as others have noted, that might be a bit risky.
[23:31] <bianca> well it didnt work
[23:31] <bianca> directory is not empty
[23:31] <heywood> bianca: oops... i meant mv -f /home/raven/Desktop/usr/* /usr/ maybe?
[23:31] <bianca> it blows my mind how stupid this is
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> bianca: if you cannot copy them as you tried, then go into each folder and copy the files in the subfolders individually
[23:31] <themill> .o0( mv isn't stupid )
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> bianca: why are you manually copying stuff to /usr and /etc?
[23:32] <bianca> still same thing, directory isnt empty
[23:32] <Ben64> mkdir /home/raven/Desktop/tobemerged; mv /home/raven/Desktop/usr /home/raven/Desktop/etc /home/raven/Desktop/tobemerged/; sudo rsync -avP /home/raven/Desktop/tobemerged/* /
[23:32] <Ben64> type that, break your system, i don't care
[23:32] <bianca> cause when i googled the issue it gave me the files im missing
[23:33] <heywood> bianca: if it's the files inside /home/raven/Desktop/usr/ that you want to move, then that should work just fine. you're probably getting that error due to trying to move directories inside .../Desktop/usr/ onto identically-named directories inside /usr/
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> bianca: can you pastebin the output of:   find ~/Desktop      Thanks
[23:33] <heywood> Ben64: your shell-fu is strong. :)
[23:34] <lbj_90> My mouse is locking up after clicking one of the side buttons and I remember there's a way to get a readout of mouse position and clicks but I don't remember how to get to it. Anybody know? I thought it was dmesg but I want a live readout
[23:34] <bianca> LOL.. that made a folder called tobemerged and its not doing anything..
[23:34] <Ben64> heywood: its not very fancy
[23:34] <Ben64> bianca: you probably didn't type it correctly
[23:34] <bianca> i copyed it
[23:34] <heywood> no, but better than my ham-handed suggestion. i always have to look at the manpage for rsync on the rare occasion i need to use it.
[23:36] <bianca> hmm i think it worked
[23:36] <dr_willis> lbj_90:  the xev command perhaps
[23:36] <tripelb> i want to ruen 4 partitions into 2 and resize does not like a zero size. what's to do?
[23:36] <bianca> is it meant to delete the origonal or not?
[23:36] <Ben64> no
[23:36] <lbj_90> that's what's up tripleb, thanks!!
[23:36] <dr_willis> tripelb:  you plan on keeping the data intact?
[23:37] <bianca> brb
[23:37] <heywood> Ben64: do i understand correctly that the bit at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#disable-password-authentication applies only to passwords used for ssh login attempts, and that it doesn't apply to local logins?
[23:37] <tripelb> and i forgot the teeminal command to list the partitions so i only have the gui. help help did not help.
[23:37] <Ben64> heywood: yep
[23:37] <dr_willis> heywood:  you can set up keys for ssh where theres no need for a password..
[23:38] <Ben64> tripelb: sudo fdisk -l
[23:38] <heywood> IOW, if i disable PW auth as described, i'll need keys for ssh, but my local login still works as before.
[23:38] <lbj_90> dr_willis: thanks to you, read the wrong name at first...thanks!
[23:38] <dr_willis> tripelb:  sudo blkid or    cfdisk -l or fdisk -l
[23:38] <dr_willis> heywood:  it does not affect local login at all.
[23:38] <heywood> dr_willis: right. i think that's what i want to do. (long pre-stored key for ssh from my laptop, regular PW for login at the server's keyboard)
[23:38] <Ben64> tripelb: and if you want to remove 2 partitions, you need to remove them, not resize them to zero
[23:39] <dr_willis> heywood:  simple way is to use the 'ssh-copy-id' command to copy keys around. then you can use keys., or password
[23:39] <dr_willis> once you get it working without passwd. you can disable the passwd auth
[23:39] <Ben64> i love ssh keys, lets me log into my server, my raspberry pi, my desktop, my laptop without ever having to type a password
[23:40] <Ben64> from my phone, or from any of the aforementioned devices
[23:40] <heywood> dr_willis: ok, seems like a bit of a chicken-and-egg thing, but relatively low-risk if i only do it the one time (and then disable PW once the ssh-copy-id stuff is set up. correct?
[23:40] <dingo311> Ben64: then maybe you can help me with ssh keys. i copy the key into authorized_keys but still have to put in a password
[23:41] <Troy^> How does one get plank dock to start at boot?
[23:41] <heywood> in theory, a (single) PW-based ssh login should not be sniffable so as to reveal the PW.
[23:41] <Sgt_Shultz> & allow someone 2 scan u as u walk past ....
[23:41] <dr_willis> heywood:  or you copy the files over via a flash drive.. but copy-id is easier
[23:41] <Ben64> dingo311: you might need to restart the ssh server
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: add the item to the startup items
[23:42] <heywood> dr_willis: understood. unfortunately my laptop and i are several thousand km away from the server at the moment. :o
[23:42] <dr_willis> Troy^:  whats 'plank dock' ? theres the ~/.config/autostart/ directory
[23:42] <dr_willis> heywood:  id keep password auth enabled then.. just in case the keys get messed up ;)
[23:42] <dingo311> Ben64: i use sudo service ssh restart
[23:43] <heywood> dr_willis: ok. but i should be safe disabling once i can verify that the key-based ssh login works, right?
[23:43] <heywood> ... disabling PW auth, that is.
[23:43] <dr_willis> heywood:  should be.. but often i have issues with testing out a new client on my phone with getting the keys working. so its nice to have passwd to fallback on
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: there is a 'startup apps' item in dash, run plank at boot
[23:44] <heywood> dr_willis: ok. maybe i'll just change the PW to something very very long as an intermediate step (in addition to setting up the ssh keys).
[23:44] <Ben64> dingo311: you need the key from the id_rsa.pub on the client in the authorized_keys on the server
[23:44] <Troy^> Ok, i found that, But I really don't know where plank resides.
[23:44] <Ben64> Troy^: type "which plank"
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: run:    which plank    and it will tell you
[23:44] <heywood> maybe i'm being too paranoid, but i feel like i need to be (much) more cautious as soon as i expose the machine to the open internet.
[23:45] <dr_willis> heywood:  got a tinfoil hat to go with the paranoia also? ;)
[23:45] <Troy^> ActionParsnip and Ben64 thanks
[23:45] <dr_willis> heywood:  check out fail2ban and logwatch also to keep an eye on it
[23:45] <Vivekananda> hello everyone : A very simple question about xchat in ubuntu lucid. I type /msg or /MSG nickname hello and it does NOt open a new window and shows the hello sent to the nick but on the main channel page itself shows --- >nickname<| hello
[23:45] <heywood> dr_willis: thin titanium. much more stylish and durable.
[23:45] <Vivekananda> whi si this
[23:45] <heywood> i think everyone will be wearing them in a few years.
[23:45] <Ben64> Vivekananda: use /query
[23:45] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  most likely an xchat setting. check its docs?
[23:45] <frijol> hola
[23:46] <lbj_90> xev doesn't display anything when I click the button that freezes up my mouse. any other recommendations?
[23:46] <k1l_> Vivekananda: single /msgs are sent as a single message and dont open a query
[23:46] <nathan_> is there anyway i can setup ssh server so that whereever it is in the world i can connect to it WITHOUT having to modify (open port 22 ) on the router??
[23:46] <Vivekananda> Ben64: pardon my ignorance but how do I use /query ? can someone point me to it.
[23:46] <dingo311> Ben64: this is on my phone. i generate a key, copy it, paste into ~.ssh/authorized_keys and restart
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: no, its not possible. you must open port 22/tcp on the router
[23:46] <Ben64> Vivekananda: same way as /msg
[23:47] <nathan_> serious Actionparsnip
[23:47] <dr_willis> router has to know where to send the request. ;)
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: yes
[23:47] <Vivekananda> k1l_: how do I send a window message ?? as Ben64 says /query
[23:47] <Vivekananda> hmm
[23:47] <heywood> nathan_: do you know if your router can do port forwarding?
[23:47] <nathan_> what about a tunnel...( still dont know/ understand how to yet)
[23:47] <dr_willis> tunnle would still need ssh access/port forwarding
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: like dr_willis says, you need to tell the router where to push the connection as well as allow asynchronous traffic in, the nature of routers gives a firwall by it dropping unsolicited connection attempts, unless you make a rule
[23:48] <nathan_> well thats not the problem actually...if the router can port forward the thing is i wont have access to the various routers settings
[23:48] <k1l_> Vivekananda: did you acutally try "/query nickname"?
[23:48] <usr13> nathan_: The process would be to forward port 22 to an inside IP, (which would need to be a static lease, or static IP).
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: if you want an SSH tunnel, you still need a connection to the system from the outside
[23:49] <nathan_> cant ssh listen on another port? a higher level port?
[23:49] <Vivekananda> I tried /QUERY BEN hello and it just opened a new window but I dont see my "hello" anywhere on it :(
[23:49] <nathan_> or on port 80?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: you can tweak the port if you wish, it allows you to connect to multiple SSH servers
[23:50] <Ben64> Vivekananda: well after the window is opened you could use /msg
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: your router may be able to push connections to different port numbers, most home grade routers use the same port number for the forward as they connect on
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: you can change the port number in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: changing the port number will not give any security
[23:52] <nathan_> Actionparsnip ?? i thought ssh worked on encryption.. how is it not secure than.??
[23:52] <nathan_> how does changing the port make it less secure
[23:52] <XMLnewbi> anyone got some time to help me set up Vhosts on my ubuntu 12.04 server? ive been crunching at this a couple days and still cant get more the one domain on my VPS
[23:53] <nathan_> anyway thanks for your help ima google it further
[23:53] <nathan_> exit
[23:53] <nathan_> exit
[23:53] <FloodBot1> nathan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <heywood> nathan_: if your router can do port forwarding, you could forward some random high-numbered port on the WAN (internet-facing) side to port 22 on the LAN (local network) side. i think you could also restrict it to a specific IP on the LAN side as well.
[23:54] <tripelb> ben64 ah i was going by the askubuntu page. i'll be bac in a sec. gonna switch to see the page on nexus7. now on phone which will become hotspot. is this ghetto tech or a fresh way if doing things, she jokes.
[23:55] <XMLnewbi> I can see why people pay for cpanel now
[23:55] <Ben64> ew, cpanel
[23:55] <Ben64> i wouldn't use it if it was free
[23:56] <merlini_xu> When i update my ubuntu ,It will report this message "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".anyone can help me.
[23:57] <XMLnewbi> do you use any control panel?      can you point me to a good Vhosts command line tutorial. Ive tried a bunch and no luck yet
[23:57] <Ben64> no, i just use a command line :)
[23:58] <dingo311> guys, why wont my permissions for alsamixer stick after a reboot? i have to use sudo to run it. this is on server 12. never had this issue with the desktop distro
[23:59] <Vivekananda> Ben64: Do you mean that I should type /query Ben64 and then /msg Ben64 Hello to show the hello ?
[23:59] <Ben64> Vivekananda: yeah
[23:59] <cmdr> hello


[02:05] <_Zeus_> can someone take a look at this and tell me how i can elevate it?  this is really critical https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/306016
[02:30] <maco> _Zeus_: i'll get it
[03:04] <_Zeus_> thanks
[03:05] <maco> _Zeus_: i marked it "high" based on figuring with most ubuntu users being desktop people, it's not affecting the majority of users
[03:05] <_Zeus_> yeah, i understand.
[03:05] <maco> _Zeus_: critical says it affects a large number
[03:05] <_Zeus_> right
[03:05] <maco> i had to go re-read the Importance page :P
[03:05] <_Zeus_> i figured that
[12:29] <BoogieBoo> Hi, I used to use successfully the network manager to connect tou my company VPN server (pptp), however since the last updates it is not working anymore, can anyone help me please? You can see my syslo file content here: http://pastebin.com/m527448a7
[12:29] <BoogieBoo> PLEASE HELP ME
[12:29] <BUGabundo_work> BoogieBoo: don't shout!
[12:30] <Nafallo> not sure if screaming will get your helped quicker to be honest.
[12:30] <BUGabundo_work> BoogieBoo: are you on jaunty?
[12:30] <BUGabundo_work> or intrepid?
[12:30] <Nafallo> s/your/you/
[12:30] <BoogieBoo> hardy still I think, 8.04
[12:30] <BUGabundo_work> Nafallo: noob have no idea of sed replace sintax
[12:30] <BoogieBoo> Sorry guys, I didn't realiza the caps were on
[12:30] <BUGabundo_work> lol
[12:30] <BUGabundo_work> no prob BoogieBoo
[12:31] <BoogieBoo> BUGabundo_work, yes, whatever
[12:31] <Nafallo> BUGabundo_work: who cares. they seem to understand "* Ifail" just fine :-P
[12:31] <Nafallo> sed replacement syntax is a lot more logical than that :-)
[12:33] <BoogieBoo> BUGabundo_work, I was using the VPN connection for months!, but now it just stopped to work, also I re-installed everything again, and I always get "Conneciton Failed" message, but it is actually working
[12:33] <BoogieBoo> if I try from XP or another computer
[12:34] <BoogieBoo> I know PPTP is not longer supported by the community because of its unsecure nehaivour, but some of us can not choose the VPN server in our company..and we have to work
[12:35] <BoogieBoo> Have you had this problem?
[12:37] <BUGabundo_work> I use PPTP every week
[12:37] <BUGabundo_work> LOL
[12:38] <BUGabundo_work> can't comment on it state on hardy
[12:38] <BUGabundo_work> I haven't use it in a long time
[12:38] <BUGabundo_work> I'm on jaunty
[12:38] <BUGabundo_work> BoogieBoo: try #ubuntu
[12:38] <BUGabundo_work> you should get more help there
[12:39] <BoogieBoo> I have already been there,  no response
[12:39] <BoogieBoo> nobody knows anything about this
[12:39] <BoogieBoo> in fact, this seems to be a sort of taboo in internet,
[12:40] <BoogieBoo> Nobody is resolving this bug, it is also present in intrepid
[12:40] <BoogieBoo> however the packets are still in synaptic,
[12:40] <BoogieBoo> BUGabundo_work, what pareameters do you use to connect to PPTP?
[12:41] <BoogieBoo> BUGabundo_work, for autentication and encryption I mean
[12:45] <andresmujica> BOOGIEBOO ARE YOU IN  HARDY?
[12:45] <andresmujica> sorry for the caps.
[12:46] <BoogieBoo> andersk, yes I am
[12:47] <BoogieBoo> andresmujica, yes I am
[12:59] <BoogieBoo> so???
[12:59] <andresmujica> hmmm
[12:59] <andresmujica> gime a sec i've got one of those bugs...
[13:01] <andresmujica> For intrepid make sure you remove the password and manually type it eveytime you want to connect. Seems to be a bug. I however have not gotten past the trying to connect. It keeps saying that is has failed to connect. NOt quite sure what the reason there is yet.
[13:01] <andresmujica> n the advanced tab you must have checked all the boxes (PAP, CHAP, MSCHAP, MSCHAPv2). You must also check “Use point to point encryption” and “allow strateful encryption”. From the drop down menu select “128 bit encryption”.
[13:01] <andresmujica> the thing is not to save your password. is not working.
[13:01] <andresmujica> cannot find teh bug numberr thou.
[13:01] <andresmujica> anyway
[13:02] <andresmujica> please take into account that for support is better to ask in #ubuntu
[13:02] <BoogieBoo> Yes you are right, I have read something about the password issue in someplace, I am already writing it each time I try to login
[13:02] <BoogieBoo> I have spent about all the morning in #ubuntu, 0 responses
[13:02] <BoogieBoo> well actually I got one:
[13:03] <BoogieBoo> "PPTP is not longer supported by Ubuntu community because of it unsecureness", move to OpenVPN
[13:03] <BoogieBoo> XD
[13:03] <andresmujica> hmm i'm sorry about that, the channel normally is too crowded...
[13:03] <BoogieBoo> well it is
[13:03] <BoogieBoo> it too crowded
[13:03] <BoogieBoo> but no repsonses
[13:03] <andresmujica> yeap.
[13:04] <BoogieBoo> The thing is that if you work for a Big company you can just go to the IT departmen and telle them: hey, please, move to OpenVPN because My ubuntu desktop doesn't support it..
[13:04] <andresmujica> maybe if you go back some pptp packages behind you can solve your issue... look for them at packages.ubuntu.com
[13:04] <andresmujica> yea i know, i've got same issue....
[13:04] <BoogieBoo> the first question from themm woul be: ANd why the hell are you using Linux in your work laptop
[13:04] <BoogieBoo> ?
[13:05] <BoogieBoo> XD
[13:05] <andresmujica> one option -not ideal- is to connect using a vm, only if you need it for something puntual and while you can solve it...
[13:06] <andresmujica> why don'you try at #pptp  (i believe it exists..)
[13:06] <BoogieBoo> vm? what's that?
[13:06] <BoogieBoo> vm ware?
[13:07] <BoogieBoo> yeah, #pptp empty, just the bot there XD
[13:21] <BUGabundo_work> BoogieBoo:  humm from what I remember
[13:21] <BUGabundo_work> that bug was fixed and the packages that were on the NM ppa were sent to ubuntu #updates repo
[13:21] <BUGabundo_work> asac: ping
[13:22] <BUGabundo_work> asac would better answer that, but I guess he is also @ #UDS
[15:13] <thekorn> boo ;)
[15:13] <bddebian> Boo too :)
[15:14] <thekorn> hehe
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> Bar
[15:42]  * BUGabundo_work does this never get old?
[15:47] <BoogieBoo> What Ubuntu update are you talking about?
[15:53] <BUGabundo_work> for network-manager and network-manager-pptp
[15:57] <andresmujica> join #centos
[15:58] <andresmujica> upps
[15:59] <BoogieBoo> BUGabundo_work, yeah but those are the last packets right? so today in the morning I uninstalled all and resinstalled all gain using the oficial reposteries and the issue is still there
[16:00] <BoogieBoo> andresmujica, Centos?
[16:01] <andresmujica> hehe
[16:01] <andresmujica> no i forgot to put the slash
[16:01] <andresmujica> :)
[16:01] <andresmujica> how did it went the pptp?
[16:03] <BoogieBoo> still the same
[16:03] <BoogieBoo> and you?
[16:10] <BUGabundo_work> update repo are OFFICIAL...
[16:18] <andresmujica> network-manager-pptp (0.7~~svn20081015t024626-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) [universe] network management framework (PPTP plugin)
[16:18] <andresmujica> this is the last one, i believe?
[16:23] <BUGabundo_work> $ apt-cache policy network-manager-pptp   Installed: 0.7~~svn20081015t024626-0ubuntu3
[16:32] <andresmujica> i've just tested my pptp and it's working fine!
[16:32] <andresmujica> Boogie which is your bug report?
[16:54] <BoogieBoo> sorry guys
[16:54] <BoogieBoo> I am at the office
[16:54] <BoogieBoo> and when someone comes in I have to leav the chat
[16:54] <BUGabundo_work> np
[16:57] <BoogieBoo> so, which reposteries should I add now to my apt ?
[16:58] <calc> bdmurray: ping
[16:58] <BUGabundo_work> main, universe, updates, security, and maybe backports
[16:59] <BUGabundo_work> don't enable propose
[17:00] <BoogieBoo> let's see
[17:03] <BoogieBoo> I already have checked main, universe, restricted, and multiverse
[17:04] <BoogieBoo> but I can't see the option "update, security and backports"
[17:04] <asac> BUGabundo_work: huh?
[17:04] <bdmurray> calc: pong
[17:04] <BUGabundo_work> hi asac
[17:04] <asac> hi
[17:04] <BoogieBoo> I found it, sorry
[17:04] <BUGabundo_work> BoogieBoo: here is having trouble with PPTP on hardy
[17:05] <BUGabundo_work> BoogieBoo: 3rd tab: Updates
[17:05] <BoogieBoo> BUGabundo_work, yes I found it, i am now updating
[17:06] <BoogieBoo> I am updating, I hope that automatically everything will be set up
[17:06] <BUGabundo_work> I have to go
[17:06] <BUGabundo_work> asac is the person who can help you .
[17:06] <BUGabundo_work> asac hope you enjoy the remaning days of UDS!
[17:15] <asac> BoogieBoo: whats your problem?
[17:15] <BoogieBoo> asac
[17:16] <BoogieBoo> asac, Connection Failed when trying to establish a VPN connection (PPT) on hardy
[17:16] <asac> BoogieBoo: hardy? ... using the hardy packages or the 0.7 backports?
[17:16] <BoogieBoo> after updating still the same result, Conenction Failde
[17:17] <BoogieBoo> asac, just followed all the updates since I instaleld this
[17:17] <BoogieBoo> asac, this was working pretty good until last updates
[17:17] <BoogieBoo> andresmujica, after you uptaded the repos, did you do anything else? I updated but I still get the same result
[17:18] <calc> bdmurray: there is a meeting on Fri 3pm in Desktop track that may be of interest to the QA team wrt Jaunty Bug Squashing
[17:18] <calc> bdmurray: aiui this was recently added to the schedule so i wanted to make you aware of it if you hadn't seen it yet
[17:19] <bdmurray> calc: thanks for letting me know
[17:21] <BoogieBoo> Ok guys I have to leave, I will go over this tomorrow
[17:21] <BoogieBoo> see you
[22:14] <azimout> can someone please take a look at bug #292819?
[22:17] <azimout> my question is, should i reassign it to cups, or what?
[22:27] <azimout> anyone?