[15:23] <asad_> TJ-, I don't get why I'm having all these problems. I bought this laptop this year.  Have you installed the 14.04 Hardware Enablement stack?
[15:24] <michaelwoo> i just in stalled a chinese ubuntu, all the  chinese file's name on my ntfs disk chinese display ok, but when i connect to a chinese ftp server, the file name display error with(invalid encoding), when i change the locale to GBK, the ftp file name is ok, but the title of file manager is error, how can i do?
[15:25] <TJ-> Krigsforbryter: this is what LVM is for. But why extend, why not just create an additional mountpoint for the extra space? Unless everything needs to be in a single directory that will work
[15:25] <asad_> TJ-, what's the hardware enablement stack? I'm not sure if I do have it installed... I've been having tearing issues. And I just clean installed ubuntu 14.04.03 a few hours ago
[15:26] <ioria> asad_, cat /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf
[15:26] <TJ-> !ltse | asad_
[15:27] <michaelwoo> anyone know how to change the file manager encode to GBK?
[15:27] <michaelwoo> just the file manager
[15:27] <asad_> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13932748/
[15:27] <Krigsforbryter> TJ-: its to have system in all my shit
[15:27] <ioria> asad_, nvidia driver ?
[15:27] <asad_> ioria, intel
[15:28] <cfhowlett> Krigsforbryter, family friendly channel here : no profanity
[15:28] <TJ-> Krigsforbryter: can you moderate your language please, it is unnecessary to swear. We try to maintain a calm family-friendly environment
[15:28] <akik> so if i install from 14.04.3 media, i'll get the enablement stack automatically?
[15:29] <ioria> asad_, already using a xorg.conf file ?
[15:33] <asad_> TJ-, Since I'm on 14.04.03, I must already have the enablement stack, correct?
[15:33] <ioria> asad_, uname -r
[15:34] <asad_> ioria, 3.19.0-39-generic
[15:34] <ioria> asad_, yep, the vivid stack
[15:35] <ioria> asad_, do you have  a xorg.conf file   in /etc/X11 ?
[15:35] <asad_> ioria, nope
[15:36] <rory> In Apache, is there some way to implement a http->https redirect that cURL will follow automatically (so not a 301)
[15:36] <ioria> asad_, you can try with this ans see how is going  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13932842/
[15:37] <LzrdKing> how can i determine why an ubuntu 12.04 server spontaneously rebooted?
[15:37] <asad_> ioria, i've tried that. it slows down performance. and I'm not really having any tearing issues anywhere else except for scrolling in firefox
[15:37] <ioria> asad_, ok
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> LzrdKing: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can troubleshoot that?
[15:37] <LzrdKing> logs look normal one moment, and then starting up the next
[15:38] <asad_> is it possible I can get an ubuntu iso specfically for my laptop?
[15:40] <ioria> asad_, http://www.zupmage.eu/i/bV8yTk2LIZ.png      disable smooth scrolling
[15:40] <asad_> over here http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201408-15443/ it says it comes preinstalled by manufacturer, how can I get it? I bought this laptop with windows 8 preinstalled
[15:40] <cfhowlett> asad so you already bought it?
[15:41] <drake01> hi
[15:41] <asad_> cfhowlett, yeah I'm using it right now
[15:41] <cfhowlett> asad_, take it to the store and see if they'll replace it with the one you should have selected.  (probably not).  or install ubuntu yourself.
[15:42] <asad_> cfhowlett, i have installed ubuntu myself but a lot things don't work
[15:43] <cfhowlett> asad_, then your options are limited.
[15:43] <Super_Ape> Hi, How can I create a shortcut for a script *.sh ?
[15:43] <AniByte> OK in ubuntu, in order to prevent cold boot attacks(Getting the encryption key from ram after shutdown) i want to run sdmem right before shutdown to make sure RAM is ereased.
[15:43] <AniByte> How should i go about this?
[15:43] <TJ-> asad_: you've got the 3.19 kernel; also check you have the -vivid- X stack: "dpkg -l '*vivid*' "
[15:44] <samir> hi
[15:44] <samir> hello
[15:45] <cfhowlett> !ask | samir
[15:45] <asad_> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13933181/
[15:45] <samir> I am using firefox which redirects automatically to www.domain-error.com
[15:46] <TJ-> asad_: Good, that looks fine
[15:47] <asad_> TJ-, you were talking about VAAPI earlier? Do I need to have that installed? I'm not sure if I do
[15:48] <asad_> TJ-, I'm not sure if I have it installed, that is
[15:48] <Super_Ape> How can I create a shortcut for a script *.sh ?
[15:49] <ioria> asad_, have you tried  disabling smooth scrolling  in FF ?
[15:49] <TJ-> asad_: VA-API is like nvidia's VD-PAU, GPU-acceleration for some video-presentation functions. It might help but it isn't a certainty. It's hard to know when we can't gather any evidence of the actualy issue
[15:49] <asad_> TJ-, but I'm not using nvidia drivers... I have an intel card
[15:50] <TJ-> asad_: No, I was giving a comparison. VD-PAU on Nvidia is the same technology as VA-API for Intel
[15:50] <TJ-> asad_: (in case you'd heard of VDPAU because it has a higher awareness)
[15:50] <asad_> TJ-, oh I see
[16:01] <asad_> TJ-, I'm noticing something in firefox... The tearing in pages when scrolling seems to start after watching videos on youtube. I restarted firefox and I don't seem to notice any tearing, yet
[16:02] <SAG12> HOLA
[16:02] <TJ-> asad_: that is an intriguing discovery :)
[16:03] <SAG12> Tengo Problemas con mate 15.10
[16:03] <cfhowlett> !es | SAG12
[16:03] <SAG12> ubuntu-es
[16:04] <mich`> hi
[16:04] <SAG12> hola
[16:04] <SAG12> hi
[16:04] <mich`> trying to install wine1.7 on ubuntu 15.10 ..
[16:04] <mich`> and it doesn't work
[16:05] <mich`> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine1.7 : Depends: wine1.7-amd64 (= 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed            Depends: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1) E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:05] <mich`> i get this
[16:05] <SAG12> Lo instale pero no lo he probado todavia
[16:05] <mich`> anyone has any idea?
[16:05] <TJ-> mich`: is the i386 foreign architecture enabled?
[16:05] <mich`> TJ-: I have no idea, should i enable it?
[16:06] <asad_> TJ-, yeah it's really weird though. What could be the problem?
[16:06] <TJ-> mich`: try "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" you'd expect to see "i386"
[16:06] <TJ-> asad_: not sure, but it's a good quality clue!
[16:06] <mich`> TJ-: yes, that's what i see
[16:07] <mich`> TJ-: is that ok?
[16:08] <TJ-> mich`: OK, that's good. Now, wine1.7 isn't in the 15.10 archive, so you must be installing it from someplace else
[16:08] <mich`> yes, i added the ppa
[16:08] <cfhowlett> mich`, ppa support is from the ppa not from ubuntu.
[16:08] <cfhowlett> !ppa | mich`
[16:09] <mich`> ok, i understand that - but i'm looking for some generic usage help with apt-get
[16:09] <mich`> it says something but i don't really understand what
[16:10] <cfhowlett> mich`, the source of your problem is the ppa.  suggest you purge and use the .wine in the repos.
[16:12] <mich`> cfhowlett: ok thanks
[16:12] <TJ-> mich`: OK, so there's a PPA issue. Try adding this option to your apt-get command-line "-o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1"
[16:12] <NaN> hi there
[16:13] <n215> is there deny rule in the end of ufw?
[16:13] <NaN> is there a special parameter to symlink a file into a .hidden folder? $ln -s file .hiddenfolder/
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> n215: maybe the #netfilter guys can help?
[16:15] <SlidingHorn> NaN: here's a thread I found that should help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469257
[16:15] <NaN> SlidingHorn: great, I'll read it thanks
[16:16] <TJ-> asad_: definitely try out the VAAPI support packages; they might do something with the videos to prevent the later tearing during scroll.
[16:18] <zealott> hi
[16:18] <drake01_> hi zealott
[16:28] <asad_> TJ-, Okay I'll check it out
[16:33] <heypaleblue> GOOD MORNING!
[16:33] <heypaleblue> hope everyone is having a good day
[16:35] <oleg_> 123
[16:43] <p4trix> trying to reproduce this video I get the error:
[16:43] <p4trix> http://www.ufc.tv/video/ufc-194-embedded-vlog-series---episode-4
[16:43] <p4trix> To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 10.2 or greater is installed.
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> p4trix: flash is pretty dead for firefox, try chromium-browser instead
[16:44] <p4trix> its the same with chromium
[16:44] <p4trix> I get the same error :O
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> p4trix: i can watch it here, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:46] <SchrodingersScat> p4trix: works on mine.  do you have flashplugin-installer?
[16:47] <p4trix> lotuspsychje, I did not :O
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> p4trix: try installing it
[16:47] <p4trix> SchrodingersScat, I think I have that one.
[16:47] <p4trix> I ll try.
[16:58] <newlinuxuser> hello i have a question please  i install linux on a flash drive 32gig but i can not save data  how do i ?
[17:00] <debug0x1> newlinuxuser: You want a persistent drive.
[17:00] <debug0x1> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/?PageSpeed=noscript
[17:00] <debug0x1> You're welcome.
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> such a fast server!
[17:04] <newlinuxuser> thank you debug0x1 :)
[17:06] <hay207> hi guys, do i need the source to package a program or i can package from a binary of an older release?
[17:07] <SchrodingersScat> hay207: what are you actually trying to do?
[17:08] <hay207> i want to package a program for my release
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> !package
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> hm
[17:08] <SchrodingersScat> what's the program? testinstall?
[17:09] <hay207> but the program isn't available for my release, btnx
[17:09] <akik> debug0x1: i think newlinuxuser installed ubuntu on the flash drive already and he has some other problem in savimg files
[17:09] <SchrodingersScat> !checkinstall
[17:09] <SchrodingersScat> hay207: ^
[17:18] <bittin_US> :)
[17:19] <habbasi> Hello. Is Xubuntu 15.10 a development release? It tells me that when I try to upgrade.
[17:19] <daftykins> habbasi: no
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> habbasi  not it's not
[17:20] <habbasi> Thank god. I thought Ubuntu was breaking the 6-month upgrade cycle or something. Cheers!
[17:22] <taxo> hi
[17:23] <taxo> just a question the full encryption disk option in the ubuntu installer uses dm-crypt + luks ?
[17:23] <jpds> taxo: Yes
[17:23] <taxo> jpds: thats nice
[17:24] <taxo> does debian jessie allows you to do that too ?
[17:24] <taxo> I mean in the installation
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> taxo  ask the debian guys, it's a differnet distro
[17:24] <taxo> MonkeyDust: ok
[17:26] <sjjenni> I want to send mail from the shell between local users, I assumed "mail user" would do it.  IT seems to take the message but even when I mail myself nothing arrives.  What do I need to configure?
[17:27] <cfedde> I forget. Is there a default MTA running on ubuntu?  Maybe postfix?
[17:28] <daftykins> desktop? no
[17:28] <sjjenni> my brand new out of the box 1.4 has postfix running - ut it is 14.4 server
[17:28] <akik> you can of course install one if you wish
[17:29] <OerHeks> running, but have you set postfix up ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[17:29] <cfedde> sjjenni: then you may have logging messges describing what happened to your email.
[17:29] <daftykins> 1.4?
[17:29] <genii> I'm pretty sure if no MTA is specified, it defaults to sendmail
[17:30] <sjjenni> cledde, nothing in the /var/log/mail.log
[17:33] <sjjenni> cledde, I was rong, there is an error, it says host not found,.
[17:36] <maxinone> hii ppl
[17:36] <maxinone> i need help with my ubunto 9.10 installing a wifi driver can anyone help me???
[17:37] <OerHeks> maxinone, nope, version is EOL, dead, upgrade please
[17:37] <maxinone> look i should upgrade for last version of ubunto ?
[17:38] <OerHeks> i would suggest 14.04 lts or the latest 15.10
[17:38] <OerHeks> !lts
[17:38] <maxinone> then a need a dvd-r, a choose this one because only took a cd that i had...
[17:38] <OerHeks> Or usb stick.
[17:39] <maxinone> k thnks i will upgrade...
[17:39] <OerHeks> if you have cd's only, take a look at the mini iso
[17:39] <OerHeks> !mini
[17:39] <OerHeks> you will need wired internet to use it.
[17:40] <maxinone> can i use mini-version, then install wifi driver that i had, and upgrade packs later ??
[17:41] <OerHeks> maxinone, no, not possible AFAIK
[17:41] <OerHeks> then you would go the server route, i guess.
[17:41] <OerHeks> fits on a cd too.
[17:41] <ux2> Hello
[17:42] <ux2> Anyone from india who can help with languages
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> ux2: ask your question mate
[17:42] <ux2> How do you install Hindi language pack
[17:44] <maxinone> my language is pt-pt why cd command does'nt open the folder "Área de Trabalho" meaning Desktop ????
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> maxinone: i think it means area of work yes
[17:45] <OerHeks> ux2, this page may be a help http://www.prayogshala.com/hindi-reading-writing-on-ubuntu-linux & the guys in #ubuntu-in can help you too.
[17:45] <maxinone> how i can acess long names in diffrent languages than en
[17:45] <SlidingHorn> maxinon    cd ~/Desktop  -   also, there is a pt support channel if you'd like: !pt
[17:45] <maxinone> i can't just enter a folder...
[17:45] <maxinone> thanks
[17:46] <ux2> OerHeks: that channel is read
[17:46] <ux2> Dead
[17:46] <genii> maxinone: Begin typing the name of the folder if you can type those characters on your current keyboard, then hit Tab to see if it can autocomplete
[17:46] <OerHeks> hmm it is just 23:16 in calcutta
[17:46] <maxinone> humm ok
[17:46] <k1l_> !in | ux2
[17:47] <OerHeks> ux2, set it up like that url i gave, reboot, and run updates to be sure all is set.
[17:47] <maxinone> thks ppl i'll be back, just try entering that folder changing from win to ubuntu
[17:48] <ux2> OerHeks: are you indian ?
[17:48] <OerHeks> ux2, no, Dutch member
[17:48] <ux2> Ah
[18:08] <question> what is the differennce between terminal, xterm and uxterm ? I feel like xterm is more powerful than terminal! also copy/paste is not working in xterm
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !terminal | question
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> question  ux means unix, is what i know
[18:11] <SlidingHorn> question: they're all different terminal emulators...xterm is the default that comes with X - it doesn't have copy/paste capability (from right click, at least) - you *can* paste using Ctrl+V, I believe.
[18:11] <question> web search showing that uxterm is xterm with unicode suupport
[18:11] <question> SlidingHorn: not working
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> question  what brings you here?
[18:12] <question> MonkeyDust: to know about all three and to ask as to what should be preferably used
[18:12] <SlidingHorn> question: there's a decent rundown of other terminal emulators available here: http://www.tecmint.com/linux-terminal-emulators/      I tend to use xfce4-terminal on my xubuntu machine & lilyterm elsewhere.  I was probably incorrect on the pasting thing re: xterm, then
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> question  try a few, use the one you like most
[18:13] <SlidingHorn> question: there are PLENTY of other emulators out there, but those are just a few with some helpful information about htem
[18:13] <question> MonkeyDust: I prefer the most user friendly and the most powerful one
[18:14] <SlidingHorn> question: those tend to be mutually exclusive concepts a lot of the time, lol
[18:14] <question> SlidingHorn: thing is that I'll have to install others for what I have already got installed on my system
[18:14] <question> if there arre ways to add functionality and make terminal and xterm more powerful than its better than best
[18:15] <SlidingHorn> question: Well your *buntu set up comes with its own default terminal - if you don't like that one, you're welcome to try others.  That list I linked to a few posts up would be helpful
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> question  we can't know what you prefer
[18:16] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[18:16] <question> MonkeyDust: ok, how to add copy/paste functionality to xterm ?
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> question  i don't know, i don't use it
[18:16] <question> or enable them if its disabled by default
[18:16] <question> MonkeyDust: what do you use ? terminal ? or something else ?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> question  yes, i guess it's terminal, the default suits me
[18:17] <SlidingHorn> question: I suggest reading the xterm FAQ if you've got your mind set on only using it and don't care to try others. http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html
[18:17] <mahdi_ja> i use ubuntu 14.04 and and qt application(such as vlc,smplyer,okular, and other) run in my system slowly
[18:17] <mahdi_ja> any one know about it
[18:18] <mahdi_ja> i test it in the other account and i do not see this problem
[18:19] <mahdi_ja> and when i run these app in terminal i get this error :Qt at-spi: error getting the accessibility dbus address:
[18:19] <mahdi_ja> please help me
[18:19] <SlidingHorn> mahdi_ja: what "other account"  --  Are you saying that if you're logged in as one user, things are slow, but when logged in as another user on the same machine, they're not?
[18:19] <SlidingHorn> !enter | mahdi_ja
[18:19] <question> also print screen button not working - 15.10 wily
[18:19] <mahdi_ja> SlidingHorn, yes
[18:20] <mahdi_ja> when i run these app in terminal with other account this problem not exist
[18:20] <mahdi_ja> SlidingHorn, when i run these app in terminal with other account this problem not exist
[18:20] <SlidingHorn> mahdi_ja: please try to keep your responses to one line
[18:22] <akik> question: you paste in xterm by click left and right mouse button together, or if you have a three button mouse, the middle one
[18:22] <akik> clicking
[18:23] <question> akik: lemme try, plus how to copy inside xterm ?
[18:23] <akik> question: you just paint the area you want to copy
[18:23] <question> akik: lemme try
[18:23] <akik> question: xterm predates all the new terminal emulators
[18:24] <SlidingHorn> question: please read the manual I linked earlier...your questions are answered there
[18:24] <question> SlidingHorn: yeah, opened it, reading it thnx
[18:24] <question> akik: its working, thnx
[18:25] <question> akik: one more question - which is more powerful - xterm or terminal ?
[18:25] <akik> question: it's just a matter of opinion which you want to use, xterm is bare
[18:25] <question> bare ?
[18:26] <akik> it's not as feature rich as the newer ones
[18:26] <akik> not saying it's not useful
[18:27] <SexyBamf> Does anybody have time to chat and help me fix multiple partitions on a laptop I received?  I know nothing about partitions but know my way around computers Its not theres something wrong, I just see 4 different partitions. IDK which one has MAC OS and which one is supporting Ubuntu. I honestly don't know where to begin researching.
[18:28] <question> akik: ok I understand, but for eg. I transfered 1gb file from home to usb and sync'ed in terminal and xterm, xterm looked like far speedy
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> !mac | SexyBamf
[18:32] <SexyBamf> I wish a simple forum could help me out but all the research in the world won't help me,
[18:35] <akik> SexyBamf: you can use a command like "sudo lsblk" to list your storage devices and partitions
[18:35] <Bashing-om> SexyBamf: You are presently booting up a LiveDVD(USB) of 'buntu ?? Then I can get you started in understanding the partitiioning ( from a linux viewpoint ) ,
[18:37] <SexyBamf> Computer only starts in ubuntu. no grub menu, no bootable options. I spent the last 15 hours literally putting in code for apt-get as well as boot-repair.
[18:39] <Bashing-om> SexyBamf: K; you are attempting to boot up ubuntu on the hard drive, do you boot to the desktop ?
[18:39] <SexyBamf> i had to hack into admin cause i was only able to get into guest account. now that i'm in it. i installed over 219 updates. Last time this laptop was used, was back in 2014
[18:39] <anonymous_> hello
[18:40] <anonymous_> salut les gas s que il y a ;oen de ;e renseni2 pour hacker un conpt facebook
[18:40] <SexyBamf> It boots right to ubuntu dekstop. I've explored the system and found the 4 partitions. I can tell that they're wonky
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> !fr | anonymous_
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: no hacking on this network either
[18:42] <Bashing-om> SexyBamf: Ouch, a Year is a long time in the computer world . So is what is installed worth the time to mess with it ? What release is this that is installed ? Terminal command ' lsb_release -a ' .
[18:43] <SexyBamf> first volume is unkown 32kb, second volume is bootstrap and 1.0 mb, third volume is 155gb marked apple UFS partition. fourth volume is 4.6 gb swap space. oh and another volume of 25kb of unused partition
[18:44] <Bashing-om> SexyBamf: What release of ubuntu is this ? As maybe End_Of_life, and there is then no support - no software repository availabale .
[18:45] <Sexybamf> sorry got knocked off
[18:47] <guest9930> Hi, I just ran apt-get upgrade and then rebooted by ubuntu server. Now I get "Uncompatible license" "Invalid arch-independent ELF Magic"
[18:47] <guest9930> Unable to boot, running 14.2
[18:47] <guest9930> Any ideas?
[18:47] <daftykins> 14.2 isn't a release
[18:47] <Sexybamf> No LSB modules are available.
[18:47] <Sexybamf> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[18:47] <Sexybamf> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[18:47] <Sexybamf> Release:	12.04
[18:47] <Sexybamf> Codename:	precise
[18:49] <guest9930> daftykins: 14.04 LTS sorry
[18:49] <guest9930> Here is a print screen http://i.imgur.com/xL0sWz5.png
[18:50] <Bashing-om> Sexybamf: Not to paste multi-lines into the channel, we have a utility for that.
[18:50] <Bashing-om> !paste | Sexybamf
[18:50] <daftykins> guest9930: is this a VM?
[18:50] <guest9930> It is yes
[18:50] <daftykins> which VM technology?
[18:51] <guest9930> vmware, if that is what you are asking
[18:51] <daftykins> indeed. i take it a power off and on results in the same? i'd say it's time to dig around from a live session
[18:53] <guest9930> I tried to shut it down entirely, it is the same.
[18:56] <Bashing-om> Sexybamf: You have a supported release of ubuntu, I am unclear of the problem you are experiencing - just that you can not activate the GUI in your "username" ?
[18:56] <ux2> any indian language packs ?
[18:56] <ux2> Tried to install n failed
[18:57] <alilinux> Hey guys, i have a question, is this room enable "cloak" feature ?
[18:57] <Bashing-om> alilinux: To discuss 'cloaking' join #freenode channel .
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> !cloak | alilinux
[18:57] <OerHeks> alilinux, no, #Freenode does
[18:58] <ux2> Anyone from india ?
[18:58] <Sexybamf> my main question is how do i go about getting MAC as the OS and not ubuntu. It doesn't seem like mac is even installed or hidden on the system. I want OSX as the main OS
[18:58] <daftykins> Sexybamf: this isn't an OS X support channel.
[18:59] <OerHeks> Set yous osx in grub2 as default
[18:59] <OerHeks> !grub
[18:59] <Bashing-om> !mac | Sexybamf Then see:
[18:59] <Sexybamf> no but i am interested in keeping ubuntu. thats why i came here... I don't want to make a mistake that i'll regret
[19:00] <guest9930> daftykins: you have no idea what is causing this?
[19:00] <Bashing-om> Sexybamf: Sorry, I know nothing of the Mac hardware .
[19:00] <daftykins> guest9930: like i said, time  to dig around from a live session
[19:00] <daftykins> or restore your backup
[19:01] <ux2> -join #ubuntu-in
[19:01] <grrfrf> TJ-:  can you help me with my ubuntu freezes?
[19:02] <ux2> Hellooooo
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: ask your question to the channel please
[19:02] <grrfrf> I have Ubuntu freezes
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> !details | grrfrf
[19:04] <grrfrf> after few minutes after boot system run slower and slower and finally freezes
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: ubuntu version..? when did things go wrong?
[19:05] <guest9930> daftykins: you do not happen to know how to "dig around" from a live session? You mean I boot from a live cd?
[19:05] <grrfrf> 15.04, but this starts in 14.04
[19:05] <daftykins> guest9930: yeah mount a desktop ISO then chroot the installation
[19:05] <daftykins> guest9930: i guess there's always a recovery mode boot worth trying first, too
[19:05] <grrfrf> it happens when my apps read/write from disk
[19:05] <daftykins> !recovery
[19:05] <guest9930> I tried the recovery
[19:06] <guest9930> same error
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: what harddisk do you have?
[19:06] <grrfrf> HGST HTS721010A9E630 (JB0OA3J0)
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: check your syslog for IO errors
[19:07] <grrfrf> nothing in logs
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: can you pastebin your syslog please
[19:07] <grrfrf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13938496/
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: did you auto partition in setup, or manually partition?
[19:08] <grrfrf> auto
[19:10] <grrfrf> https://i.imgur.com/UnmXuIr.png
[19:10] <dlb> can someone help me with kvm?  I have a 64 bit 14.04.3 install but kvm keeps making 32 bit vms. --arch is set for amd64. Any thoughts on what to look at?
[19:10] <grrfrf> lotuspsychje, gparted
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: graphics card chipset and driver loaded please?
[19:12] <Razva> hey folks! I would like to test the Unbuntu Cloud (MAAS, Juju, Landscape etc) on a couple of lased bare-metal servers. note that these servers don't offer a vlan, so all I have is external IPv4 IPs. can I work this out, or do I need to have everything in the same place?
[19:12] <m82labs> Having an odd issue. The only user that can login via SSH is root. All other users, it logs them in, shows the welcome banner, then immediately disconnects. Almost like someone put a logout command in their profile or something.
[19:13] <grrfrf> lotuspsychje, intel (intel driver) and radeon (radeon driver)
[19:13] <m82labs> In auth.log I see "Permission Denied"
[19:13] <daftykins> m82labs: that does not sound like a normal ubuntu host since root doesn't have a pass as normal; what is it?
[19:13] <grrfrf> but radeon videocard only wroks with fglrx which doesn't installed
[19:13] <Razva> I'm reading about MAAS right now, and from my understanding it needs to be all in the same network, as MAAS is basically setting up LAN IPs via DHCP?
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: wich chipset exactly please
[19:14] <OerHeks> dlb, the only reason i can think of: your cpu does not support VT-x / AMD-v , or this is not enabled in the bios
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: sudo lshw -C video
[19:14] <m82labs> daftykins, it is a normal ubuntu host, but root has been given a password.
[19:14] <daftykins> Razva: #ubuntu-server may well be far more relevant for you
[19:14] <alilinux> how i can join linuxmint irc ?
[19:14] <daftykins> m82labs: sounds like either sshd config or something like fail2ban is booting the other users then via rules
[19:14] <Razva> daftykins thanks!
[19:14] <daftykins> !mint | alilinux
[19:14] <OldDenverGeek> Ok everything looks good still getting sasl errors
[19:14] <genii> m82labs: As daftykins says, you must have enabled root login. Possibly you also made the default folder somewhere with only root permissions and then all others cannot use that for their home and get kicked
[19:14] <OerHeks> egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[19:15] <m82labs> daftykins, would fail2ban kick in *after* the "Welcome to Ubuntu..."
[19:15] <daftykins> m82labs: pass, but i'm telling you things to check...
[19:16] <alilinux> how i can join spotchat using xchat client ?
[19:16] <grrfrf> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M] (rev ff)
[19:16] <daftykins> alilinux: ask in #xchat perhaps :)
[19:16] <alilinux> lol
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: have you tried official amd drivers from their website?
[19:16] <m82labs> genii, I checked that out by simply trying `su - myuser` and it was able to login and I could list the contents of the users home directory.
[19:17] <m82labs> daftykins, I understand, just wasn't sure when fail2ban kicked in. :)
[19:17] <grrfrf> lotuspsychje, yes, but with fglrx vsync doesn't working, so I can work
[19:17] <guest9930> daftykins: I managed to get into a live ubuntu cd, what kind of digging would you advice me to do?
[19:17] <guest9930> first, chroot what ?
[19:17] <grrfrf> lotuspsychje, system with fglrx also freezes
[19:18] <grrfrf> * lotuspsychje, yes, but with fglrx vsync doesn't working, so I can't work
[19:18] <alilinux> what's port of irc.spotchat.org
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: did you build pc yourself?
[19:18] <grrfrf> no, notebook with replaced hard drive
[19:18] <Pici> alilinux: 6667 is the standard irc port
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: ssd?
[19:18] <grrfrf> hhd
[19:19] <grrfrf> model name: HGST HTS721010A9E630
[19:19] <OldDenverGeek> any pointers getting past sasl auth errors in KVirc on 14.04?
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: did it start to freeze after inserting your hd?
[19:19] <daftykins> OldDenverGeek: #freenode issue - not OS related.
[19:19] <neldogz> I just noticed that neither gnome-disks nor gparted allow you to set the block size of a partition. Upon checking I can see that its set to 512bytes by default. Is there a way to change the block size while creating a partition from a gui in Linux?
[19:19] <akik> m82labs: this is a wild guess, but do you have a /etc/nologin file?
[19:19] <OldDenverGeek> okily :) later
[19:20] <grrfrf> after replace?
[19:20] <daftykins> guest9930: have a read of; http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: yes? when did your system start to freeze?
[19:21] <m82labs> akik, nope
[19:21] <grrfrf> before I replaced my hdd I used windows. Freezes start after a month while using Ubuntu
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: wich laptop brand is this?
[19:22] <grrfrf> Sony VAIO
[19:22] <akik> m82labs: if you create a completely new user with useradd, does that new login work?
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: does the freeze come after several time? at wich point, same every day?
[19:23] <m82labs> nope
[19:23] <m82labs> akik, nope
[19:23] <grrfrf> after several time, after few minutes working with Chrome
[19:23] <grrfrf> if I use nothing system doen's freeze
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: only with chrome?
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: or with other programs too?
[19:24] <akik> m82labs: i think the solution will be found from /var/log/auth.log
[19:24] <regedit-work> hello
[19:24] <grrfrf> no, with other serious apps too
[19:24] <fwtbt> Hello
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: are you on btrfs?
[19:25] <grrfrf> ext4
[19:25] <m82labs> akik, all I am getting there is 'Permission denied'
[19:25] <m82labs> akik, but I am not sure what permission is denied to.
[19:25] <regedit-work> is it bad if i do my do-release-upgrade from a regular in-session command shell? meaning - without logging off and doing it from tty1
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: install htop please and start chromium-browser from terminal to see errors please
[19:25] <m82labs> akik, if I do a 'su - myuser; it works just fine.
[19:25] <akik> m82labs: can you pastebin it? remember to sanitize
[19:26] <grrfrf> theren't errors
[19:26] <harrot> quite
[19:27] <akik> m82labs: you have another error in sshd, since you allow root logins :)
[19:27] <grrfrf> All is OK
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: not all ok, your system freezes
[19:27] <Loshki> regedit-work: it will probably work as well as any upgrade. I prefer fresh installs.
[19:27] <m82labs> akik, thats apparently how we do it here. :) Though, that may just be in our dev environment.
[19:27] <m82labs> akik, there isn't really anything to pastebin. 'login[3087]: Permission denied
[19:27] <m82labs> '
[19:27] <grrfrf> I know, but in logs thern't errors, this is the problem
[19:28] <akik> m82labs: ssh username@localhost fails too?
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: not correct, alot of acpi errors in your syslog
[19:28] <regedit-work> Loshki: so you fresh install every upgrade? and then reinstall all your software etc?...
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: have you checked sony website for bios firmware updates?
[19:28] <m82labs> akik, good call, I will give that a try.
[19:29] <m82labs> akik, yep, same thing "Permission denied"
[19:29] <grrfrf> ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000428-0x000000000000042F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000400-0x000000000000047F (\PMIO) (20150619/utaddress-254)
[19:29] <grrfrf> these errors?
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: yeppers
[19:30] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[19:30] <CountryfiedLinux> My xbox 360 controller doesn't work with Borderlands 2. Any suggestions?
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: try the amd drivers from website also
[19:30] <akik> m82labs: do you have a AllowUsers in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[19:30] <OerHeks> !find xbox
[19:30] <m82labs> akik, I tried it, no dice.
[19:31] <grrfrf> amd drivers for videocard? I alerdy tried they, problem doesn't soles
[19:31] <grrfrf> what means these errors
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: you can also install lubuntu-desktop and see if your system freezes there
[19:31] <guest9930> I followed that guide daftykins, I got the root partition under /mnt/root but when I run sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/myroot/dev I get an error that /mnt/myroot/dev does not exist. Opening the finder I can see the files, cd do it I only see some grub files
[19:31] <guest9930> and memtest
[19:31] <akik> m82labs: how about using "ssh -v -v -v username@host" to see if that points out the error?
[19:31] <Loshki> regedit-work: I do, but I kind of cheat. I keep a directory of config files (mostly from /etc, about 43 files) which represent my server config. Once installed, I can reconfigure my machine in about 15-20 minutes. Most of the time, the config files are identical and I just copy them into place.
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: you could try bootoptions like no_acpi and such
[19:32] <akik> m82labs: that will output a lot of debug
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[19:33] <boxmein> unity dash instantly closes after opening it with either superkey or mouse
[19:33] <grrfrf> OK, now I try to reboot with this
[19:33] <boxmein> weird
[19:33] <daftykins> guest9930: i prefer to put my / on /mnt/ then all the sub stuff goes to e.g. /mnt/dev etc ; i see you used two names for the same path so maybe one was wrong
[19:34] <CountryfiedLinux> Ok here's my xboxdrv output. http://pastebin.com/Tp4XVGTn
[19:34] <CountryfiedLinux> I know I have it plugged in.
[19:34] <m82labs> akik, it doesn't seem to be ssh related, the login process is what is claiming "Permission denied" is there anyway to increase logging on that?
[19:34] <guest9930> daftykins: that was a typo by me
[19:34] <CountryfiedLinux> It's an aftermarket rock candy controller.
[19:35] <guest9930> I tried sudo chroot /mnt/myroot and recieved chroot failed to run command '/bin/bash'
[19:35] <daftykins> CountryfiedLinux: not run with sudo, likely can't do anything like that.
[19:35] <akik> m82labs: i don't know but check that the permissions are 0755 on /bin/login
[19:36] <regedit-work> well great... doing do-release-upgrade from command line froze the system some 60-80% through the process... the last output to console was "Installing for x86_64-efi platform." i can't even switch to tty :(
[19:36] <daftykins> CountryfiedLinux: your info says 0.8.5, go to the guys' site and it says 0.8.8 is out which adds support for your pad ;)
[19:37] <CountryfiedLinux> daftykins: How do I install that?
[19:37] <grrfrf_> OK, I rebooted, log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13939678/
[19:37] <daftykins> CountryfiedLinux: no idea. i bet you can find something though.
[19:38] <akik> m82labs: you can also run "sudo login" to see if that outputs any errors. it will give you a login prompt to your host
[19:38] <CountryfiedLinux> daftykins: Ok, thanks anyways. I'll keep looking.
[19:39] <m82labs> akik, yep, looks correct. The odd things is that I have 5 vms all built from the same base template, but only one of them allows users to login. I think I am done for the day, time to pass it off to sysops I suppose. Thanks for the help.
[19:39] <TJ-> guest9930: that tells you there is no /mnt/myroot/bin/bash ... so probably the root FS is mounted someplace else
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: try sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop and login to it, see if your system freezes there also
[19:40] <grrfrf> I alersy tried Unity, KDE, LXDE, now I on XFCE
[19:40] <guest9930> TJ-: if I use "Finder" I can go to /mnt/myroot/bin/bash
[19:40] <guest9930> and it do exist there
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: freeze everywhere?
[19:40] <guest9930> I cannot cd to that location from the terminal though
[19:41] <grrfrf> yes, but now... mayable freezes stops!
[19:41] <TJ-> guest9930: but is it *executable* ... is the mountpoint or parent marked noexec, too
[19:41] <TJ-> guest9930: are you trying to chroot into a 64-bit root file-system from a 32-bit host?
[19:42] <guest9930> TJ-: nope, the desktop is 64
[19:42] <Yuken> Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but - I'm looking for a way to customize tint2 via a gui, if this is even possible.
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: can you type watch -n 1 sensors in terminal, and tell us how hot cpu is?
[19:42] <grrfrf> 62 - 63
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> ok good
[19:43] <TJ-> guest9930: if you cannot "cd /mnt/myroot/bin/" then there is a permissions issue, or the directory doesn't exist
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: start chromium-browser and type free -lm in terminal?
[19:43] <guest9930> TJ-: well it seems to exists in finder, but not the terminal :&
[19:44] <grrfrf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13939945/
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: doesnt look unusual
[19:45] <TJ-> guest9930: what is this "Finder" ?
[19:46] <TJ-> guest9930: do not rely on anything GUI; stick with a shell in a terminal
[19:46] <guest9930> ok I ran df -h
[19:46] <guest9930> and I noticed that my new drive is at a different location
[19:46] <ioria> grrfrf, how may tabs have you open ?
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: did you try another hd?
[19:46] <grrfrf> 4
[19:46] <hogslammer> hi guys
[19:46] <grrfrf> no
[19:46] <guest9930> it is located at /media/ubuntu/a-lot-of-numbers
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: maybe the hd is bottlenecking your system somehow
[19:47] <hogslammer> I need some help on howto automount a partition before login.
[19:47] <ioria> grrfrf, total 3861  used 3483   ... you're almost out , just with chrome
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> !mount | hogslammer
[19:48] <TJ-> guest9930: 'lots of numbers' will be the UUID of the file-system.
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: do you have another hd to test?
[19:48] <nubcake> hello, i'm trying to access my sd-card via the built-in cardreader in my notebook on ubuntu 15.10 x64 . usually i just plugged it in and it did show up on the menu on the left. now it doesn't show up anymore, all i get is some messages in syslog after plugging in. any help would be highly appreciated :) thanks in advance
[19:48] <grrfrf> yes, but have data on it
[19:48] <grrfrf> http://i.imgur.com/AWPW6w6.png
[19:49] <nubcake> oh and please excuse my bad english, it's not my mothers tongue
[19:49] <hogslammer> ok yes i went thru the help files
[19:49] <TJ-> guest9930: so the automounter 'udisks' has mounted it. Use "udisksctl unmount --object-path /media/ubuntu/xxxxxxx" to unmount it
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: this is clean install or upgrade from version to version?
[19:49] <hogslammer> the folder is in media, but i need it systemwide
[19:49] <grrfrf> lotuspsychje 15.04 -> 15.10
[19:50] <grrfrf> lotuspsychje but on 15.04 there are freezes
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: and before 15.04? clean install?
[19:50] <white_magic> has anyone here used the Universal USB Installer to create a bootable flash drive? I've used it just now, but it turns out i also need to modify some grub2 options to disable the loading of nvidia drivers into the kernel.. in order to be able to install or live/boot into Ubuntu even once. Any thoughts?
[19:50] <grrfrf> yes
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: must be hardware related, all the versions you tested
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: try also a cmos clear in bios, ramtest, hd test
[19:51] <OldDenverGeek> hello, not seeing the Python/Idle menu under Applications in 14.04..
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: doublecheck sony website for bios upgrade
[19:52] <grrfrf> I tried ramtest tooday, 1 pass OK
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: sata cables good?
[19:52] <OldDenverGeek> using Gnome Metacity, how to add menu items ?
[19:52] <daftykins> white_magic: no, you just need to boot with 'nomodeset' if you need to disable nouveau usage
[19:52] <daftykins> !nomodeset | white_magic
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: i had one ubuntu system freeze on a 1TB Westerndigital once
[19:52] <grrfrf> I have notebook, whitch cable?
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: nvm then
[19:53] <grrfrf> SMART of hd is OK
[19:53] <ioria> grrfrf, sudo lshw -c video
[19:53] <guest9930> this is really starting to get on my nerves. I tried to run grup and recieve Python error failed to open /dev/urandom
[19:53] <white_magic> daftykins: that is precisely what i'm trying to do. do i modify this file '/boot/grub/grub.cfg'?
[19:54] <daftykins> white_magic: no, you just follow the above link and do it once - once installed, you can install proper nvidia drivers.
[19:54] <grrfrf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13940373/
[19:54] <grrfrf> no, problem doesn't solved
[19:55] <ioria> grrfrf, intel.... are you hybrid ? ... i mean with radeon
[19:55] <CountryfiedLinux> My xbox 360 controller doesn't work with Borderlands 2. Any suggestions?
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> grrfrf: you said amd card also right
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yes he's hybrid
[19:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Ok here's my xboxdrv output. http://pastebin.com/Tp4XVGTn
[19:55] <grrfrf> yes, hybrid
[19:55] <CountryfiedLinux> It's a rock candy.
[19:55] <hogslammer> is it possible to automount a per user partition(media) before logon?
[19:55] <ioria> grrfrf, dpkg -l | grep fgrlx*
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> ioria: [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M] (rev ff)
[19:56] <daftykins> CountryfiedLinux: i already told you your driver is out of date, install 0.8.8
[19:56] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i see ....
[19:56] <grrfrf> nothing
[19:56] <CountryfiedLinux> daftykins: I don't know how.
[19:56] <daftykins> CountryfiedLinux: so look it up?
[19:56] <Loshki> white_magic: if you edit grub.cfg, any changes you make to it will be wiped out when you grub-update, which will regenerate the file from configs.
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> ioria: amd drivers make his system freeze also
[19:56] <TJ-> grrfrf: do you have a 2nd Linux PC available?
[19:56] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ok
[19:57] <hogslammer> I have my fstab open at the moment, looks like its listing UUID's
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> ioria: and his syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13938496/
[19:57] <grrfrf> for what? ssh?
[19:57] <CountryfiedLinux> daftykins: You don't think I've been doing that?
[19:57] <TJ-> grrfrf: Yes, so you can do a live monitor on the /var/log/kern.log as the faulty PC begins to fail
[19:57] <daftykins> CountryfiedLinux: not since i already found PPAs in my first search, no
[19:58] <ioria> radeon 0000:01:00.0: radeon: MSI limited to 32-bit  ...
[19:58] <CountryfiedLinux> Well here's what I looked for daftykins https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+rock+candy+xbox+360+controller&biw=1366&bih=613&noj=1&ei=_ShrVtmpF8qojgTp6o-gDQ&start=30&sa=N
[19:58] <akik> !automount
[19:58] <grrfrf> system currently is very slow, so I can now see logs
[19:58] <OldDenverGeek> using Gnome Metacity, how to add menu items ?
[19:58] <CountryfiedLinux> daftykins: looks like a google search to me.  Got that ppa by chance?
[19:59] <akik> the definition is a bit off. automount is not only for network mounts
[19:59] <TJ-> grrfrf: run 'top' see if any process is hogging the CPU
[19:59] <ioria> grrfrf, but it's a virtual box ?
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> CountryfiedLinux: please loose the tone to volunteers
[19:59] <grrfrf> no, only xfce4-terminal and google-chrome
[19:59] <grrfrf> cpu ~5%
[19:59] <CountryfiedLinux> lotharn: Did you read the tone of the volunteer?
[19:59] <TJ-> grrfrf: this is a virtual machine? or bare-metal?
[19:59] <nubcake> any ideas on why my sd-card wont show up after plugging in? http://pastebin.com/yHDtpKT9 this is the output of syslog
[19:59] <daftykins> CountryfiedLinux: right but i told you you need to install the latest version of xboxdrv, your search is too vague to find anything relevant... and no, not since you think throwing insults around is ok :)
[19:59] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm a volunteer also.
[19:59] <grrfrf> bare-metal
[20:00] <CountryfiedLinux> daftykins: That's one of many different searches. Most recent was for "ubuntu rock candy driver 0.8.8"
[20:00] <TJ-> grrfrf: so right now it's responses are slowing, but you still have direct, local, control?
[20:01] <CountryfiedLinux> daftykins: I was asking for help and looking myself for the past hour. You were automatically being rude assuming I wasn't looking for myself, but I digress.
[20:01] <bazhang> CountryfiedLinux, please dont target a single user for help, repeat yoiur question every 20 mins or so
[20:01] <TJ-> grrfrf: what about reported load averages?
[20:01] <SlidingHorn> CountessBathory: using that exact search, I found it in the top 5results....
[20:02] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: * ^^
[20:02] <daftykins> SlidingHorn: +1
[20:02] <grrfrf> yes, but cusor is jumping on the screen and I can't fast switch apps
[20:02] <CountryfiedLinux> bazhang: Well 17 minutes in between, close enough :P
[20:02] <ioria> grrfrf, have you already tested the Guest Account  ?
[20:02] <TJ-> grrfrf: can you get a remote SSH session to the problem PC?
[20:02] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn: Do you have the link still?
[20:02] <grrfrf> yes
[20:02] <bazhang> CountryfiedLinux, just make it general, not at the one single helper
[20:03] <CountryfiedLinux> ok bazhang
[20:03] <grrfrf> how do I send it to you?
[20:03] <TJ-> grrfrf: right, work off a remote SSH session, and gather some info before it hangs up. First, check the load average "cat /proc/loadavg"
[20:04] <grrfrf> 0.86 1.00 1.11 1/544 7509
[20:04] <TJ-> grrfrf: grrfrf so quite high - could be an I/O wait issue there.
[20:05] <TJ-> grrfrf: "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and watch it, is anything being reported or is it mainly quiet
[20:05] <grrfrf> TJ- currently system works fine
[20:05] <grrfrf> what means the last line: perf interrupt took too long (2541 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000?
[20:05] <TJ-> grrfrf: OK, well keep those tools available remotely and use them when the system starts misbehaving
[20:06] <TJ-> grrfrf: system load means the performance monitoring needed adjusting
[20:07] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: The second result under "ubuntu rock candy driver 0.8.8 ppa" is http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/ <~~  has instructions on how to add the PPA, etc.
[20:07] <grrfrf> nothing in tail
[20:07] <CountryfiedLinux> Ok thanks SlidingHorn I'll try that.
[20:07] <daftykins> google ftw.
[20:08] <OldDenverGeek> using Gnome Metacity, how to add Programming menu and items?
[20:08] <TJ-> grrfrf: next time the problem starts recheck the loadavg first, then tail the kern.log to check. If you can find a clue it'll be extremely useful
[20:08] <Bashing-om> grrfrf: For refefence my AMD box : " sysop@1404mini:~$ cat /proc/loadavg >> 0.00 0.02 0.05 2/268 2490 ' With a bit going on (google-chrome, irssi and some other low level stuff ) .
[20:09] <TJ-> OldDenverGeek: as I recall, adding any application whose .desktop file declares it to be in the Programming category will cause the group to appear
[20:09] <OldDenverGeek> TJ-: that makes sense, but didnt python and idle show up after install??
[20:10] <TJ-> grrfrf: a high load average could indicate high iowait conditions. you should also check the IRQ stats "cat /proc/interrupts" for extremely rapidly changing values
[20:10] <grrfrf> 1.31 1.02 1.06 1/567 7775
[20:10] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn: I tried that and tried to reinstall xboxdrv and it said it is already the newest version. Did the xboxdrv anyway and says the same as before.
[20:10] <TJ-> OldDenverGeek: In theory all the DEs that abide by the FreeDesktop standard should use those, but as always sometimes the implementations can leave something to be desired. Sometimes it needs a log-off/log-on to refresh the menu cache
[20:11] <TJ-> grrfrf: getting high!
[20:11] <OldDenverGeek> TJ-: ok let me try that.. bbl
[20:11] <grrfrf> why when chrome reads data from disk I can't move cursor?
[20:12] <TJ-> grrfrf: iowaits ... indicates thats where the problem might be
[20:12] <TJ-> grrfrf: sounds like a hardware/system firmware issue if we can rely on that observation, especially as earlier you mentioned it affects all DEs you've tested
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: can he test hd speed/read/writes with hdparm perhaps
[20:13] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: after adding the PPA -  sudo apt-get remove xboxdrv && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install xboxdrv
[20:13] <TJ-> grrfrf: it's possible that system would do better with the -lowlatency kernel, instead of the -generic
[20:14] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: it's not the speed as such, it's interrupt handling that can cause this kind of issue.
[20:14] <grrfrf> TJ-: how intsalll it?
[20:14] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: unless we have a known-good value to compare to, checking it now might not be too useful.
[20:14] <TJ-> grrfrf: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-lowlatency"
[20:15] <TJ-> grrfrf: then you'll need to ensure the -lowlatency kernel is used by the default GRUB entry before doing a reboot test. You should also remove that "noacpi" if it is still there
[20:15] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn: still not found :(
[20:15] <grrfrf> and what is the difference?
[20:15] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: then you haven't added the PPA per the instructions.
[20:15] <TJ-> grrfrf: -lowlatency uses pre-emptive multi-tasking rather than co-operative multi-tasking
[20:16] <TJ-> grrfrf: generally its better for desktop installations
[20:16] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn: controller not found.
[20:17] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: what is the output of     apt-cache policy xboxdrv     (in a pastebin, please)
[20:18] <ioria> grrfrf, can you paste ps -A ?
[20:18] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn: installed
[20:19] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn: http://pastebin.com/r3igiLe8
[20:19] <LangieX> Why is KeePassX 2 not be in Ubuntu 16.04?
[20:20] <k1l_> LangieX: ask the maintainer
[20:21] <k1l_> LangieX: it is, btw
[20:21] <k1l_> so i dont know what your issue is with this development release :/
[20:21] <TJ-> CountryfiedLinux: SlidingHorn 0.8.5-0ubunt3 is the latest version in that PPA for Trusty, and the main Ubuntu archive version is later
[20:22] <SlidingHorn> TJ-: I was just checking that, too....  cc:  CountryfiedLinux
[20:23] <grrfrf> My system freeeze ehen I tried to install these packages. Can you repeat your messages if therir exist?
[20:23] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn: Could upgrading from Trusty to Wily maybe solve the issue?
[20:23] <TJ-> grrfrf: you mean the install instructions? I've not typed much since then
[20:24] <TJ-> CountryfiedLinux: you need the most recent mainline release for Trusty?
[20:24] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: If you're okay with upgrading to a non LTS version, then it *does* appear that the 0.8.8 is available for Wiley
[20:24] <SlidingHorn> TJ-: He needs at least 0.8.6 for Rock Candy support
[20:24] <CountryfiedLinux> Ok cook thanks SlidingHorn
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> upgrading lts to non-lts is not reccomended
[20:25] <LangieX> k1l_: It is?
[20:25] <CountryfiedLinux> TJ-: SlidingHorn But is it possible to install the latest on LTS?
[20:25] <k1l_> LangieX: 16.04 is in heavy development. you are aware of this?
[20:25] <k1l_> LangieX: and what is the issue with keepass2 you say it should not be included?
[20:26] <LangieX> k1l_: I am speaking about keepassx.org
[20:26] <LangieX> k1l_: The new 2.0 version is new and it would be great to find it in ubuntu
[20:27] <TJ-> CountryfiedLinux: I'm checking now
[20:27] <k1l_> !info keepass2 | LangieX
[20:27] <TJ-> CountryfiedLinux: which kernel version is the PC running? "uname -r"
[20:27] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks TJ-
[20:27] <CountryfiedLinux> TJ-: 3.19
[20:27] <LangieX> k1l_: No, not KeePass2, KeePassX2
[20:28] <k1l_> LangieX: talk to the maintainer of keepassx then
[20:28] <grrfrf> OK, I booted with lowlatency kernel
[20:28] <ID21> hey!
[20:28] <ID21> i am eliKAAS
[20:28] <LangieX> k1l_: Is there a chance that it will be in ubuntu 16.04 or is it fix which packages are in ubuntu 16.04?
[20:28] <ID21> i am now on ubuntu
[20:28] <ID21> and wifi on school works!
[20:29] <ID21> thank you all!
[20:29] <k1l_> LangieX: talk to the maintainer. he knows what could be blocking it
[20:29] <k1l_> LangieX: here is the release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[20:30] <k1l_> LangieX: keepassx2 was rleeased 4 days ago.
[20:31] <LangieX> k1l_: Yeah, that's why I wanted to know if it's in Ubuntu 16.04
[20:31] <seth> Hi folks, I'd like some help blocking websites with the hosts file on ubuntu. I am running Ubuntu 14.04.3. I will paste my hosts file. I can still access reddit on chromium despite trying to block myself from using it.
[20:31] <seth> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost localhost.localdomain computer <IP_ADDRESS> reddit.com
[20:31] <TJ-> CountryfiedLinux: give me a few minutes; I'll set 0.8.6 to build for 14.04 and see how it foes
[20:32] <kostkon> !info keepassx2 xenial
[20:32] <kostkon> !info keepassx xenial
[20:32] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks TJ-
[20:32] <LangieX> That's version 0.4.3 :(
[20:33] <k1l_> that is why i said: talk to the maintainers.
[20:33] <k1l_> we cant know what is going on with this just released software and if its not compatible with other stuff in ubuntu
[20:34] <seth> My host file changes don't seem to be blocking websites appropriately. Is this an https issue?
[20:36] <samsamsam> Hi. I am using rsync remote to local and rsync is stuck. The size of the backup directory is not increasing. Should i cancel the operation?
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> samsamsam: can you check the data size growing locally?
[20:37] <samsamsam> @lotuspsychje the local directory size is not increasing...
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> samsamsam: probably stuck then?
[20:38] <compdoc> rsync -av --stats --progress
[20:39] <samsamsam> @lotuspsychje I just cancelled it. This is the error i got [generator] write error: Broken pipe (32)
[20:40] <mhewelt> join #meditation
[20:41] <CountryfiedLinux> mhenrixon_: what for?
[20:43] <CountryfiedLinux> TJ-: SlidingHorn brb
[20:45] <ioria> samsamsam, apt-cache policy rsync
[20:47] <ioria> samsamsam, could be a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsync/+bug/1300367
[20:48] <samsamsam> @ioria could be. I am running it a second time and its working so far
[20:48] <ioria> samsamsam, good ...
[20:51] <I-am-Groot> Hey... has anyone noticed that ubuntu doesnt allow the transfer of files embeded in a folder via mtp??
[20:54] <payetteforward> ux
[20:57] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[20:58] <CountryfiedLinux> TJ-, Wily is at xboxdrv 0.8.5 how do I update to .8?
[21:01] <remont> jsf
[21:02] <remont> hello
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> remont: how can we help you?
[21:02] <remont> yes
[21:02] <malgorath> I'm setting up a desktop for my brother and was wondering is it better to go with 14.04 LTS or 15.10(or .04) for someone new to linux/ubuntu?
[21:02] <remont> yes
[21:02] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: I thought you were using Trusty?
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> malgorath: in most cases LTS is a good choice
[21:03] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, I just installed Wily.
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> malgorath: but depends what you need yourself?
[21:03] <CountryfiedLinux> malgorath, I'd recommend 14.04 and then tell him how to upgrade to 16.04 when it's released.
[21:03] <malgorath> Okay thanks guys
[21:03] <CountryfiedLinux> malgorath, Just in case he doesn't feel like upgrading he won't be without support soon.
[21:05] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: If you're now using Wily, the exact steps shown on that page (add repository, update, install) should install 0.8.8.    I'd probably remove the older version first just so there's no weirdness
[21:05] <malgorath> Just curious, I installed 15.10 on my desktop recently, is that going to be upgradable to 16.04?
[21:06] <Pici> malgorath: yep.
[21:06] <SlidingHorn> malgorath: yes - there will be release notes when 16.04 comes out which will help you
[21:11] <hay> hello everyone... I have plenty of files with url1, but want to replace the occurences of url1 with url2... I have tried multiple combinations including find . -type f -readable -writable -exec sed -i 's#"url1/my_path"#"url2/my_path"#g' {} \; but I can't get it working although no error is displayed..  thanks :)
[21:12] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, Ok I just removed xboxdrv, added the ppa, updated, installed ubuntu-xboxdrv, then checked and http://pastebin.com/KnG33vHt
[21:15] <hay> found it, in case anyone requires it... use comma as a delimiter :)
[21:15] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, I pasted everything just to confirm I followed the steps accordingly.
[21:15] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: that's not the ppa listed on the page I linked...
[21:16] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, what's that link again?
[21:16] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/   --- scroll down to the "binary package download" section.
[21:17] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks SlidingHorn
[21:19] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, http://pastebin.com/WqbVxiwq
[21:20] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: progress!  Now let's see what that error means....
[21:22] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, I'm thinking about just going out and buying a used corded xbox 360 controller :P
[21:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Of course I'd bring my laptop and test it first.
[21:25] <samsamsam> i am using rsync to sync my server with a local dorectory. The server shows only 2.7 gb used but the local directory is > 6gb. What else is getting copied?
[21:25] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, The light is on indicating player one. Maybe it will work anyway.
[21:26] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: well, give it a shot, and if it doesn't, we'll have to figure out a way to have xboxdrv essentially run as a daemon at startup.  Sounds like a privileges problem, and a root-initiated daemon would alleviate that
[21:27] <Tsutsukakushi> samsamsam: did you delete stuff from the remote directory and didn't use --delete flag?
[21:28] <samsamsam> @Tsutsukakushi Yes
[21:29] <Tsutsukakushi> samsamsam: try adding --delete to the rsync line and syncing them, maybe that'll fix it
[21:29] <Tsutsukakushi> :3
[21:29] <samsamsam> @Tsutsukakushi Thanks. I will try that
[21:29] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, Gotta wait a few minutes for the game to install. In the meantime I'll keep searching that error.
[21:30] <TJ-> CountryfiedLinux: FYI: I've uploaded the Trusty 0.8.6 package to my PPA and waiting for it to build
[21:31] <CountryfiedLinux> TJ-, I've added that ppa in Wily and have an indicator light on for player 1. Still getting an error but gonna see if it will work anyway.
[21:32] <TJ-> CountryfiedLinux: OK
[21:32] <CountryfiedLinux> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/WqbVxiwq
[21:32] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: essentially, I think what we'll do is create an upstart entry for it anyway, that way it's always run at startup - sudo nano /etc/init/xboxdrv.conf     and put this in it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13943484/
[21:33] <Tsutsukakushi> samsamsam: do you see files being deleted?
[21:33] <Tsutsukakushi> samsamsam: using -P will show you what is happening when it's running
[21:34] <SlidingHorn> CountessBathory: (the content of that pastebin...not the link itself, lol
[21:34] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, Numbers 12345 included or not?
[21:34] <samsamsam> @Tsutsukakushi I didn't now about -P will add that and see what is happening
[21:34] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux:  no line numbers
[21:35] <CountryfiedLinux> ok
[21:35] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, Do I need to reboot?
[21:36] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: for that file we just made to take effect, yes.
[21:37] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, I'm gonna email myself a tutorial of all this info just in case it works I'll have it for later. brb
[21:38] <SlidingHorn> CountryfiedLinux: good luck!
[21:38] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, Luck is for losers. So I'll need some luck thanks :P
[21:41] <CountryfiedLinux> brb
[21:46] <AlexQ> Hi. Can I move AND RESIZE (extend) an extended partition without moving it's contents?
[21:46] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, Still doesn't give me the controller option in Borderlands 2 :(
[21:48] <TJ-> CountryfiedLinux: 0.8.6 for Trusty now built: see https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty
[21:49] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, I just had an idea. I'll play the game with jstest-gtk running.
[21:49] <TJ-> CountryfiedLinux: 0.8.6 for Trusty now built: see https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty
[21:49] <CountryfiedLinux> cool thanks TJ-
[21:49] <CountryfiedLinux> brb
[21:51] <CountryfiedLinux> SlidingHorn, controller still not working :( jstest-gtk indicates that it does though.
[21:53] <CountryfiedLinux> Wound an official xbox 360 controller work with Steam games?
[21:53] <imReKT1000> CountryfiedLinux, yes
[21:54] <imReKT1000> as long as the game supports controllers
[22:02] <coco> is there a tool in ubuntu that can do base to base conversion , i need it to check my homework results
[22:02] <CountryfiedLinux> Is Xbox controllers what's recommended for Steam or would Playstation controllers work also.
[22:02] <ikonia> base to base ?
[22:02] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: I've used both, although the xbone controller doesn't work properlly with the xbodrv module for all games
[22:03] <ikonia> the 360 is fine with it
[22:03] <CountryfiedLinux> Ok thanks ikonia
[22:03] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm gonna take my laptop to a local game store and test it before buying it.
[22:03] <coco> ikonia ; yes base 2 which is binary , 10 , 8 (octal) 16 .....
[22:04] <AlexQ> Okay, nevermind - that is how GParted behaves when you do move and resize an extended partition (if it does not require moving of logical partitions, of course)
[22:04] <coco> ANY IDEA ?
[22:04] <ikonia> no need for caps, but no, I don't know what you're trying to do
[22:06] <coco> ikonia : please adress my nick so i know ur taliking to me , I want a tool that can help me convert numbers from base  to another base
[22:07] <hunter_> i <3 ubuntu
[22:08] <coco> ikonia ; coco
[22:09] <ikonia> what ?
[22:09] <coco> ikonia ; online tools are not really accurate
[22:09] <ikonia> why are you telling me this
[22:10] <coco> ikonia : because u asked me a question
[22:11] <TJ-> coco: "bc" ... e.g. "echo 'ibase=2; 10101010' | bc" => "170"
[22:12] <coco> TJ- : I aske for a tool my friend !
[22:13] <coco> TJ- ; thanks for the lesson though *
[22:13] <TJ-> coco: bc is a tool
[22:14] <TJ-> coco: The *nix philosophy is to make each tool do one job well, and be able to pipe outputs to inputs to build complex powerful chains
[22:15] <coco> TJ- ; its not in the software centre
[22:15] <ikonia> it's instlled by default
[22:15] <ikonia> as part of core-utils (I think)
[22:16] <holucon> irccloud is kinda stupid
[22:16] <ikonia> and nothing to do with this channel
[22:18] <coco> TJ- : what is the cmd line to convert 89.0625 to binary ???
[22:18] <coco> TJ- ; using bc
[22:21] <coco> TJ- ; ?
[22:22] <coco> what is the cmd line to convert 89.0625 to binary using bc ??
[22:23] <akik> coco: are you in a test situation or why in a hurry? go read about bc
[22:23] <SlidingHorn> coco: 1. please allow some time to pass before repeating a question.  If no one is available to answer, wait at least 20 minutes before reposting.  2.  Have you read the manpage for bc while waiting?
[22:26] <genii> coco: You can do something like echo "obase=2;89.0625" | bc   ..obase can also be changed suitably for octal, hex, etc
[22:29] <TJ-> coco: "  echo 'scale=8;obase=2;89.0625' | bc  " => "1011001.00010000000000"
[22:29] <TJ-> coco: you'll want 'scale=X' when needing numbers to the right of the decimal place
[22:30] <genii> TJ-: Nice :)
[22:31] <coco> genii , TJ- : so the input should be (  echo 'scale=8;obase=2;89.0625' | bc )
[22:32] <genii> coco: There are single quotes there nested in double quotes
[22:36] <heypaleblue> exit
[22:36] <heypaleblue> exit
[22:39] <TJ-> coco: yes. You can run "bc" and work from its shell until you type "quit", but I use a pipe because I make use of it in shell scripts
[22:40] <TJ-> coco: the default ibase and obase (input and output respectively) is base 10 decimal
[22:40] <coco> TJ- ;  when changing the value of  X in scale=X , doesnt seem have any affect
[22:41] <TJ-> coco: "man bc" and see sections NUMBERS and VARIABLES about 'scale'
[22:44] <Guest30790> Hi there, im having issues with a new laptop and its built in wifi adapter. The laptop is an Acer Aspire E15 E5-573-5864, running Ubuntu 15.10. The adapter is displayed as 'Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042]'. I've been following a thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300861&page=3 which seems to work for other people but no dice here.
[22:44] <Guest30790> I've uploaded output of wireless-info here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/14360b76a8015088a79e
[22:44] <Guest30790> Note, I currently have a usb wifi adapter plugged in, which i cannot use in the long run, so please ignore it when viewing the wireless-info output
[22:49] <bloop> if I'm running an update that is meant to update my browser, for instance
[22:49] <bloop> it's OK if I'm running it, right?
[22:49] <bloop> it will still update and such?
[22:52] <TJ-> Guest30790: On 15.10 the ath10k_pci does NOT claim the 168c:0042 device
[22:53] <Guest30790> Thanks TJ, is there something I can do to make it claim?
[22:54] <Guest30790> Also, it seems ath_pci is blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf. Could that be an issue?
[22:55] <TJ-> Guest30790: looking at the mainline Linux kernel source-code repository, it looks as if support for that chipset has only landed about a month ago: "034074f Thu Nov 12 21:03:05 2015 +0200 Bartosz Markowski ath10k: add QCA9377 hw1.0 support"
[22:55] <TJ-> Guest30790: No; that's an older module
[22:57] <Guest30790> Ah, ath10k_pci. I see. Does the ubuntu forum thread I posted not show that people were able to get the device working though>
[22:59] <srg> I downloaded the ubuntu ISO image. How can I put it on a USB drive? the website docs are confusing. I'm running Debian linux. I can I just dd the file to my USB drive (/dev/sdb or whatever it is)?
[23:00] <rww> yes
[23:00] <srg> thanks
[23:01] <TJ-> Guest30790: you'll need to use a very recent mainline build of v4.4, I'd suggest http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.4-rc4-wily/
[23:01] <TJ-> !mainline | Guest30790 see this for instructions
[23:01] <antonio_> For some reason my wifi drops on my laptop (and not on any other devices) and it won't reconnect.  I have to restart Ubuntu to get it to work.
[23:02] <Guest30790> Alright TJ, i'll give that a shot. Thanks
[23:02] <TJ-> Guest30790: the forum thread shows they're using a very recent kernel build
[23:02] <antonio_> how
[23:02] <antonio_> how do I find out what vers of ubuntu Im reunning with term?
[23:03] <TJ-> Guest30790: you'll be installing a work-in-progress development kernel, so you must expect issues. It's release-candidate 4 and we usually go to 7 or 8 before its final. I checked on the last stable release update v4.3.2 but it doesn't contain the commits
[23:03] <TJ-> antonio_: "cat /etc/issue"
[23:03] <antonio_> thanks
[23:03] <antonio_> Now, how can I diagnose why my wifi drops..and wont reconnect until I restart?
[23:04] <compdoc> antonio_, you have an android tablet or phone?
[23:04] <TJ-> antonio_: first place to look is in /var/log/syslog
[23:04] <antonio_> laptop
[23:04] <compdoc> but no android
[23:04] <LTCD> Hi. I was trying to format my USB memory stick the other day on Linux Ubuntu and accidentally deleted the partion, now it will not work on any computer. I have tried to format and create a new partion but it's as if the USB is destroyed :-(.
[23:06] <Indra> Is there a way to view if someone did a guest login on my computer?
[23:06] <antonio_> tj-: I've done that...and I have the syslog...can you take a look at it?
[23:07] <TJ-> antonio_: sure, why not pastebin the last 2000 lines or so? "pastebinit <( tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog )"
[23:07] <TJ-> Indra: check /var/log/auth.log"
[23:08] <Guest30790> OK TJ, i understand. Thanks again for your help
[23:09] <ndan> so anyone feel like helping with a sound issue.  i was trying to get my audio working.  tried removing pulseaudio cause thats how i prefer n did it before (just use alsa).  after many guides following online, i have to run puseaudio then run pavuaudiocontrol, i go to configuration drop down to my hdmi, and it still isn't work.  Anyone have a good guide to getting the audio to work without pulse?  and so i boot my computer it starts each time, let alone work.
[23:10] <ndan> oh i'm running XFCE ubuntu werewolf.
[23:10] <ndan> (i think my issue compared to usually, is that i'm in XFCE, the settings aren't as easy to find)
[23:10] <antonio_> ti-: do I need pastebininit installed?
[23:11] <TJ-> ndan: Pulseaudio isn't going to stop audio working. If it isn't available at the ALSA level, PA won't be able to produce anything. If ALSA does produce audio but PA doesn't that tells us the output (sink) profile needs changing to select the correct outputs
[23:11] <TJ-> antonio_: you may need to do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[23:12] <ndan> well good.  so ignoring n removing pulse audio from the picture, I'm having a trouble finding a guide setting up alsa... everything keeps point to pavuaudio control (which depends on pulse)
[23:12] <Indra> TJ-: What would I be looking for in the log if someone did in fact do the guest login?
[23:12] <antonio_> tj is this the right way?   pastebinit <( tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog
[23:13] <TJ-> ndan: I generally use "aplay -l" and "aplay -L" to identify the sinks and profiles, and "speaker-test" to check the ALSA side
[23:13] <sam__> helolo
[23:13] <TJ-> antonio_: you're missing the closing parenthesis )
[23:13] <antonio_> whats that?
[23:13] <TJ-> Indra: 'PAM' will mention a log-in attempt by 'guest' or 'Guest' I'd expect
[23:13] <ndan> TJ-: thanks, i'm gonna toy with that now
[23:14] <TJ-> antonio_: "pastebinit <( tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog) " <--- a closing )
[23:14] <antonio_> hehe
[23:14] <antonio_> here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/13946270/
[23:15] <antonio_> There is one time when I turned the wifi off and back on manually with the wifi switch on the laptops keyboard...trying to see if that would cause the wifi to reconnect...other than that...I didn't do anything to turn off the wifi
[23:15] <ndan> TJ-: well aplay -l does see my sound card, speaker-test doesn't work.  aplay is listing like every hdmi port as a sound option.  I guess what it boils down to, is how do i tell my computer  which one to use... i mean card 2 has 4 options hdmi 0-3.  i want that card hdmi 1
[23:16] <TJ-> ndan: for example: "speaker-test -Dfront -l 2 -c 2 -t wav "
[23:17] <TJ-> ndan: where the -D "front" profile came from "aplay -L" listing
[23:18] <Indra> Nevermind.. It was cron. I was getting paranoid. That still doesn't explain how the guest login was selected on the screen when I returned.
[23:18] <Indra> I never use or select that.
[23:19] <TJ-> Indra: mouse or cat moved the pointer :)
[23:19] <TJ-> Indra: I've had low-battery state in a Bluetooth mouse cause the pointer to go wandering, for example
[23:20] <Indra> Thanks for the help though. It is useful info to know.
[23:20] <drocsid> I'm trying to burn a dvd on my laptop, but not having any luck. http://sprunge.us/TYRL
[23:21] <ndan> TJ-: here is my aplay -L  , none of the speaker test, even just for fun trying individally replacing the -l with 1-10  no result.  i don't think the NVidia HDMI audio is supposed to be there really.
[23:21] <ndan> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/vcXHYGGs
[23:22] <TJ-> ndan: "-l" is the loop count. "-c" is the channel count
[23:22] <TJ-> ndan: what output do you expect to hear sound from?
[23:22] <question> print screen button not working - wily 15.10
[23:23] <TJ-> ndan: that's not the "aplay -L" output, it is the "aplay -l" output
[23:23] <TJ-> ndan: capital L is the list you want, to choose the device name for speaker-test, etc.
[23:23] <ndan> TJ-: I know it should be "digital stereo hdmi 2", n yes my apologies you said the -Dfront.
[23:23] <TJ-> ndan: it seems you've customised the ALSA configuration drivers, so the default device is the loopback device. That explains why you're not hearing something
[23:24] <TJ-> ndan: it looks to me as if you want an output from the built-in motherboard audio on card 1, or the external Nvidia HDMI on card 2
[23:25] <ndan> TJ-: correct, so dev 8
[23:26] <Guest53917> Hey TJ, kernel upgrade seems to have partially worked. lspci -vvnn reports that the wifi adapter has ath10k_pci driver in use. But there is still no network device reported in ifconfig.
[23:26] <TJ-> Guest53917: well, that's progress :)
[23:27] <TJ-> Guest53917: can you "pastebinit <( ip link show )"
[23:27] <ndan> TJ-: my aplay -L is rediculous....  http://pastebin.com/YXwMDxyq
[23:27] <TJ-> ndan: it always is :D
[23:27] <samsamsam> df -h shows i only have 500 mb memory free but difference between size and used is 11 gb
[23:28] <cuauhtemoc> Hola
[23:28] <ndan> TJ-: so with speaker test, i'm sorry, i'm not sure what you meant the -D is the device i want, so say i want DEV=8  what would replace -Dfront in this speaker-test -Dfront -l 2 -c 2 -t wav  (sorry, i really do appreciate this help)
[23:29] <Bashing-om> samsamsam: Show is the output in a pastebin, please .
[23:29] <Guest53917> TJ: paste.ubuntu.com/13946631/
[23:29] <Guest53917> Note that 'wlx801f025aaeb9' is my usb adapter
[23:30] <TJ-> ndan: so you expect audio output from an HDMI device? so something like "speaker-test -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=2 -c 2 -l 2" ?
[23:30] <samsamsam> @Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/EV0qe4ce
[23:30] <TJ-> ndan: oh, I missed off "-t wav" there!
[23:30] <Bashing-om> samsamsam: look'n .
[23:31] <antonio_> tj-: you get a chance to look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13946270/ ?  If not, no worries..heading to work in like 20...
[23:32] <TJ-> Guest53917: ahh, OK. I think I know what is affecting you here. I *think* the systemd-udevd device-renaming rules aren't matching on ath devices, I seem to recall fixing this for someone else a few weeks ago. Can you "pastebinit <( dmesg )" please
[23:33] <Ender_Wiggin> hey hey
[23:34] <Ender_Wiggin> just updated my 14.04 machine using LXDE GUI and now I get a reading on my taskbar that says "networking disabled". I checked the cable connections and still have the issue. My TS3 server hosted on it is able to connect to it locally from my desktop though
[23:35] <ndan> TJ-: thank you with that i will go through untill i find which one works.  so far my obvious thoughts didn't work, but the tests are working per choice, I def was using aplay n speakertest way wrong when i tried this before.
[23:36] <Ender_Wiggin> on boot it said it failed to setup network connection, rebooting it now to see if it resolves it
[23:36] <TJ-> antonio_: it looks like the this is the explanation: "Dec 11 12:55:14 antonio-Inspiron-1545 NetworkManager[795]: <info> (wlan0): device state change: activated -> failed (reason 'SSID not found') [100 120 53]" (line 531)
[23:36] <Ender_Wiggin> "waiting for network configuration"
[23:37] <samsamsam> @Bashing-om any idea?
[23:37] <Bashing-om> samsamsam: I can not expain why with 11 Gigs not counted there is only 668M availabale for use . as this is the '/' partition. we generally see this as a result of old kernels in /boot . What results ' sudo apt-getautoremove ' to also remove those old kernels . Be aware at 100% capacity, may not have the head room for apt to operate in .
[23:37] <antonio_> TJ-: what can I do?  Any ideas?
[23:37] <Ender_Wiggin> I am running a DUC for no-ip.com to ressend my IP constantly
[23:37] <TJ-> antonio_: so, either something in the network chipset or driver is going wrong, or the Acces Point (AP) is really disappearing. Can you confirm the AP is definitely not disappearing for other devices?
[23:37] <samsamsam> @Bashing-om I will try that and check
[23:37] <Bashing-om> sudo apt-get autoremove **
[23:38] <Ender_Wiggin> ok says booting system without full network config
[23:38] <samsamsam> @Bashing-om I ran autoremove and it didn't do anything :/
[23:38] <antonio_> TJ-: my phone and my gfs tablet work fine...the laptop just drops connections all the time
[23:38] <TJ-> antonio_: oh, much better. see line 506! "kernel: [  194.786377] b43-phy0 ERROR: Fatal DMA error: ..."
[23:38] <Ender_Wiggin> im able to access it locally with Synergy and TS3 but i guess its not getting connection to the internet?
[23:38] <TJ-> antonio_: so, you have a definite hardware problem it looks
[23:39] <antonio_> TJ-: Any way to work around it?
[23:39] <Bashing-om> samsamsam: Let's check : ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . still bet that there a numerious kernels installed and apt had no head room .
[23:39] <TJ-> antonio_: does this happen only when the laptop is working on battery, or also when it is being charged/powered from mains?
[23:39] <antonio_> battery is completely dead...happens when its plugged in
[23:40] <question> print screen button not working - wily 15.10
[23:40] <antonio_> TJ-:do you think it might be something with the b43 wifi driver?
[23:41] <Ender_Wiggin> how do i fix "network disabled" issue after updating? I changed my iptables to run a DUC for no-ip which is why im assuming i cant get internet access
[23:42] <hugh_> TJ-: Just checking in to say that worked. (Im the wifi adapter/kernel guy.) Thanks for your help :)
[23:42] <hugh_> Im using the built in adapter now
[23:42] <samsamsam> @Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/h16wBGTs
[23:42] <fep> question, i had a printscreen problem, but i found out that it worked if i had the program that i wanted to paste to open
[23:43] <TJ-> antonio_: see the first post in this thread, and the first indented 'Code' section, where it adds the "options b43 pio-1 ..."
[23:43] <TJ-> antonio_: Your system log shows a DMA (Direct Memory Access) failure. that "pio" is the alternative to DMA, called Programmed Input/Output mode. It's slower than DMA but still works
[23:44] <TJ-> antonio_: that thread device matches your device (14e4:4315) too
[23:44] <Bashing-om> samsamsam: Kiik'n at your http://pastebin.com/h16wBGTs .
[23:44] <question> fep: its a bug in wily
[23:44] <fep> question, okay... i had this problem in kali, the prt scrn didnt cut to clipboard
[23:44] <fep> never found out why
[23:45] <question> fep: I found its solution some time back but couldn't find it now
[23:46] <question> it was something like going to settings and entering the hotkey again
[23:47] <antonio_> tj-: what thread?
[23:48] <TJ-> antonio_: sorry, I didn't paste the link! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266620&highlight=14e4%3A4315
[23:49] <fep> question, i get that "blink" when i press prt scrn but it wont store in clipboard until pasted somewhere ... tell me if you figure it out, maybe it will work for me too
[23:49] <Ender_Wiggin> Question, can someone help me resolve an issue with network configuration disabled?
[23:50] <Bashing-om> samsamsam: So much for that theory . But you do have serious problems there . Yours -> linux-headers-3.13.0-24 mine 3.13.0-71-generic . You are way behind on updates. That does not tell us where that space is consumed . Do ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' Let's see what the disk usage is . Then return later to getting you updated .
[23:50] <question> fep: what you are doing is copying the screenshot to clipboard so basically its alright, but what my problem is that my printscreen button is totally not working in wily 15.10
[23:51] <question> Ender_Wiggin: ask directly and dont ask to ask !ask
[23:51] <antonio_> thanks tj:
[23:51] <Ender_Wiggin> question, oh sorry didnt mean to ping ya
[23:52] <question> Ender_Wiggin: no problem, ask your questions directly
[23:52] <lwizardl> anyone here good with libreoffice calc? I'm trying to figure a way to use regex to split columns
[23:52] <Ender_Wiggin> how do i fix "network disabled" issue after updating? I changed my iptables to run a DUC for no-ip which is why im assuming i cant get internet access
[23:52] <fep> question, no, i am not copying screenshot to clipboard .. thats the problem
[23:53] <question> fep: what key combination are you using ?
[23:53] <fep> i only use printscreen button or shit+prtscrn
[23:53] <fg_> fep you can try ALT+Stamp
[23:53] <fep> shift
[23:53] <samsamsam> @Bashing-om doing that!
[23:54] <question> fep: shift+prtsc copies screenshots to clipboard so you are good
[23:54] <fep> fg_, hehe thanks, it worked ;)
[23:54] <fg_> Yeeeeee
[23:54] <fep> or maybe it was shift, i tried all three combinations and some of them worked
[23:55] <fep> fg and question are the masters
[23:55] <samsamsam> @Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/h2z9Ef7b
[23:55] <question> if its incase with prtsc button also then go to settings > keyboard > shortcuts > screenshots and then reassign prtsc button and see whhat happens
[23:55] <Bashing-om> samsamsam: look'n at http://pastebin.com/h2z9Ef7b .
[23:55] <fg_> on the very old keybrd work with ALT
[23:55] <LTCD> Hi. Ubuntu does not eject external HDD correctly, unlike on Windows the disk is still spinning. How do I eject it properly when I right click icon and go to Safely Remove? Thanks!
[23:58] <question> prtsc takes screenshots of whole window( full desktop) while alt+prtsc takes of current window only (eg. browser) , ctrl+prtsc copies shots to clipboard and shift+prtsc takes for user input area to be selected for screenshot


[02:44] <Viper550> hey
[02:49] <zkriesse> Viper550: Yes?
[02:49] <zkriesse> newz2000: Ping
[02:49] <Viper550> Is it me, or has no one noticed the awesome flxubb theme I did based off the base theme?
[02:49] <newz2000> yo
[02:49] <zkriesse> newz2000: Pm?
[03:08]  * newz2000 calls it a night


[03:58] <doctormo> pleia2: Nice photos of you at FOSSCON
[03:58] <pleia2> doctormo: thanks
[03:59] <doctormo> I spy reasons to love to, nice :-D
[03:59] <doctormo> I have an owl!
[03:59] <pleia2> yeah, that was one of my "you can contribute with design!" slides :)
[03:59] <pleia2> an owl?
[04:00] <doctormo> pleia2: Minoly surprised me with an owl art: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/art/Night%20moon%20owl.svg
[04:01] <doctormo> I know it's a bit late for ubuntu-learning-materials, but it's still cute.
[04:01] <doctormo> Mimoly*
[04:01] <pleia2> aw, nice :)
[04:03] <doctormo> pleia2: I've been putting my art to good use, floor ethernet maps of the BHA community centers. They get taped to the inside of the electrical closets
[04:03] <pleia2> doctormo: as a sysadmin who has to deal with undocumented networks, I love you for that :)
[04:04] <doctormo> pleia2: I thought you might approve, could you peer review here: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/charlestown-plan.svg
[04:05] <pleia2> blues go into the 16 and purples into the 8?
[04:05] <doctormo> pleia2: yes
[04:05] <pleia2> looks good
[04:06] <doctormo> There are 10 of these centers, some don't even have ethernet infrastructure.
[04:06] <doctormo> just wires along the ground.
[04:06] <pleia2> not surprising
[04:07] <pleia2> in the schools we've worked in we pretty much have to run all the ethernet, if they had computers before us they either weren't networked or were poorly wired
[04:08] <pleia2> and we still need to run them when we want connectivity in individual classrooms, woo wire crimpers :)
[04:10] <nigelb> s/woo/eewww/g :P
[04:11] <pleia2> it's actually surprisingly satisfying work now and then
[04:11] <nigelb> ha!
[04:12] <doctormo> pleia2: Do you install good permanent infrastructure, or is it just temp?
[04:13] <pleia2> doctormo: I wouldn't say "good" but for all intents and purposes it is permanent
[04:14] <pleia2> budget is pretty much non-existant so we do what we can with what we have
[04:15] <doctormo> pleia2: Yeah, in a lot of cases I end up repairing or making do.
[04:15] <doctormo> In the site you just saw, when i got there, 12% of the ethernet ducts were falling off the walls.
[04:16] <doctormo> Some strong outdoor double sided tape, and their all repaired. No sense waiting for the network to die because wires got cut from the infrastructure literally falling around their ears.
[04:18] <pleia2> we go through walls when we can, but a lot of these buildings are old and all we can reasonably do is run wires along the tops of doorways down hallways
[04:18] <pleia2> (our ethernet is not the only wires running through the hallways)
[04:19] <doctormo> Mary Ellen has that issue, there is NO WAY to get anything inside a stone wall. Not even screw holes.
[04:19]  * pleia2 nods
[04:20] <doctormo> I ended up fixing the projector screen with same double sided tape, with some screws at the bottom for weight.
[04:20] <doctormo> Pretty cool though, cieling paint, tape and two old cork boards chopped up.
[04:21] <pleia2> it's amazing how creative one gets :)
[04:22] <doctormo> No amount of megivering could create a projector though. Donation from HDS away! ;-)
[04:23] <pleia2> nice, working projectors are rare finds!
[04:24] <doctormo> pleia2: See pictures here: https://plus.google.com/102241005050666075649
[04:25] <pleia2> haha, excellent
[04:25] <doctormo> That wall blunted 3 masonry bits, one quite expensive one.
[04:27] <pleia2> heh, ouch
[04:30] <pleia2> I have to say that as rewarding it is to work on these things I do still feel guilty about having a government that allows schools to be in such disrepair and without access to reasonable resources
[04:34] <doctormo> pleia2: I feel annoyed, more than guilty, that recoures are being wasted.  But also on constractors that neither care or know anything.
[04:34] <doctormo> It's like they're stuck hiring from bottom of the pile because they don't know any better.
[04:34] <doctormo> resources*
[04:38] <pleia2> yeah, and so much red tape and bureaucracy so the people who can get contracts are stupid limited
[04:38] <pleia2> we're only there because we're volunteers
[04:43] <doctormo> pleia2: I think I might be in a position with less red tape, only for the fact that BHA.IT=0, so they don't actually have any confidence either over their IT.
[04:44] <doctormo> But that means that unscrupulous contracts can take advantage, another issue to raise the blood presure.
[04:45] <pleia2> yeah :\
[04:47] <nigelb> Well, I wish there was a place for open source people to be found for contracts.
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[07:30] <kim0> Morning all
[09:22] <czajkowski> Aloha
[09:58] <nigelb> AlanBell: ping, do you have the wiki scraping script you used the other day
[09:59] <AlanBell> hmm, I never finished that little project
[09:59] <AlanBell> the wiki has throttling built in so it takes ages, all I did was get a list of all pages and wget them in a script
[09:59] <AlanBell> wget the raw page of each that is
[10:01] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/652995/
[10:06] <nigelb> aha, need to pass and emtpy user agent
[10:06] <nigelb> my friend was trying something like this elsewhere and ran into similar issues
[10:36] <AlanBell> yes, the wiki blocks wget, so pretend to be something else
[10:37] <nigelb> heh
[10:52] <kim0> Howdy folks .. Would be interested in uploading Cloud-days sessions to the wiki, and linking them up to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays/Timetable
[12:00] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:07] <nigelb> Morning duanedesign
[13:01] <jcastro> morning
[13:04] <nigelb> Good morning jcastro. Internet etc all set?
[13:08] <jcastro> nigelb: yep, all set!
[13:08] <jcastro> kim0: can you check the ensemble report?
[13:09] <jcastro> I think I got everything, just needs a once over
[13:09] <kim0> jcastro: yeah gimme a moment
[13:09] <nigelb> jcastro: \o/
[13:12] <jcastro> kim0: yeah no rush
[13:29] <czajkowski> *sigh*
[13:29] <mhall119> morning
[13:30] <czajkowski> I do wish people wouldn't blame the Lc when we are trying to do stuff especially when it's not our fault and decisions were made without us
[13:30] <jcastro> I BLAME PAULTAG
[13:31] <czajkowski> jcastro: nope to be fair he's helping us, given we're getting the blame for something and trying to fix something that is't really a LC issue it's a LD issue
[13:31] <czajkowski> on the plus side yay for canonical for sponsoring oggcamp :)
[13:41] <jcastro> OMG
[13:42] <jcastro> http://randall.executiv.es/jam-o-meter
[13:42] <jcastro> that is /brilliant/.
[13:42] <jcastro> dholbach: ^
[13:42] <jcastro> man, why didn't we think of that before
[13:51] <paultag> jcastro: always :)
[13:52] <paultag> Just got an android phone, first once since my G1
[13:52] <paultag> it's nice. Comes with HTC crapware apps.   Gah.
[13:53] <paultag> jussi: yes, please!
[13:53] <jussi> viber :)
[13:53] <paultag> jussi: viber?
[13:54] <paultag> jussi: oh cool free calls and such
[13:54] <paultag> jussi: thanks :)
[13:54] <jussi> paultag: SIP, but linked to your phone number, auto populates contact via those that registered with their phone number against your phone book
[13:54] <paultag> jussi: radical, thanks man :)
[13:55] <paultag> I need to get star trek noises for the phone, at some point
[13:55] <jussi> hehe
[13:56] <paultag> HTC Inspire, not a bad unit
[13:56] <paultag> I like phones that feel metal-ey
[14:02] <kim0> jcastro: I've added a few things to http://pad.ubuntu.com/ensemble-report
[14:03] <jcastro> oh man
[14:03] <jcastro> How did I miss this services thing
[14:05] <kim0> jcastro: I also see a few new formulas couchdb, memcached, rabbitmq .. those should be mentioned right ?
[14:06] <jcastro> I can add them
[14:06] <jcastro> ok I was having a hard time figuring out which formulas are new
[14:06] <kim0> couch is not really new .. just updated for port exposing
[14:06] <jcastro> I did sort my recently changed in principia
[14:06] <kim0> cool go ahead and add those then
[14:07] <jcastro> cool, then I just push it out on cloud.u.c?
[14:07] <kim0> yeah and tag with whatever tags + planet
[14:07] <kim0> so it goes to planet
[14:08] <jcastro> ah, right
[14:09] <jcastro> one thing tumblr does that I wish wordpress did ootb
[14:10] <jcastro> is you can just publish things to a queue
[14:10] <jcastro> and then it times them out so they post evenly
[14:11] <jcastro> kim0: how did you determine the formulas to mention? Do you just manually go through them all and check them out or do you have a smart way?
[14:13] <kim0> jcastro: no smart way .. just sorting by last modified and the commit number helps to know if it's new or not :)
[14:14]  * jcastro nods
[14:14] <jcastro> kim0: oh in the source tree? or in launchpad
[14:14] <kim0> just lp
[14:15] <kim0> there is no single source tree for formulas
[14:15] <jcastro> juan made that list script
[14:15] <jcastro> but I haven't tried it
[14:16] <jcastro> I must be missing something, I can't find the bugs for memached or rabbit
[14:18] <kim0> jcastro: just check out https://code.launchpad.net/principia
[14:18] <kim0> there might be no bugs indeed
[14:18] <jcastro> ah right
[14:18] <jcastro> I was looking for the bugs for the list, I see where the formulas themselves are
[14:18] <jcastro> I'll just reformat it different.
[14:25] <jcastro> kim0: ok weird, can you try to do a fresh branch of principia?
[14:25] <jcastro> I get some dumb bzr/lp error
[14:26] <kim0> jcastro: there is none
[14:26] <kim0> principia is now a "distro" whatever that means .. there is no single source tree that has all formulas
[14:26] <jcastro> ugh
[14:26] <jcastro> crap
[14:27] <paultag> jcastro: and what exactly would you do with sourcecode?
[14:28] <jcastro> search through logs, look at which ones are new
[14:28] <jcastro> read comments
[14:28] <paultag> carry on
[14:29] <jcastro> I don't need to be a rocket scientist to read a bash script that says "apt-get -y install rabbitmq" :)
[14:29] <paultag> jcastro: well no, rocket scientists can't code. I'd not think you had to be
[14:29] <paultag> jcastro: a programmer, on the other hand?
[14:29] <paultag> perchance
[14:30] <paultag> see? I'm being a snarky wiseass. It's how I get through the day
[14:30] <jcastro> kim0: the first few comments on that cloud post you linked to are hilarious
[14:30] <kim0> jcastro: heh yeah weirdo
[14:32] <jcastro> wordpress needs an etherpad plugin
[14:32] <jcastro> so people can work on the same article in WP instead of copying it over to WP
[14:32] <paultag> hummm
[14:32] <paultag> that's actually not a bad idea
[14:32] <paultag> if etherpad was not in java, that'd work brilliantly
[14:33] <paultag> but you'd be forced to run Tomcat and Apache, which I'm pretty sure even the NSA can't run
[14:33] <paultag> Also, it'd throw a cross-site scripting shit-fit unless you can plumb a fake request server in front of it
[14:34] <doctormo> paultag: I recommend more fiber in your diet ;-)
[14:34] <paultag> doctormo: :)
[14:35] <doctormo> paultag: Also, move etherpad to django, can't take more than 5 mins.
[14:35] <jcastro> kim0: ok all I need now is a catchy title
[14:35] <paultag> doctormo: hehehe
[14:35] <jcastro> someone made etherpad-lite on node.js
[14:35] <jcastro> it looks pretty badass
[14:35] <doctormo> Job done, get it packaged and lets grab a drink.
[14:35] <dholbach> jcastro, yeah, I saw it - it's awesome
[14:35] <kim0> the creative bits again :)
[14:41] <jcastro> got it!
[14:51] <jcastro> man
[14:51] <jcastro> there's this beautiful heron in my back yard
[14:51] <paultag> wow, my mind is messed up
[14:52] <paultag> (my brain said s/heron/heroin/)
[15:05] <cjohnston> jcastro: have you moved in?
[15:06] <jcastro> yeah
[15:08] <cjohnston> sweet
[15:08]  * cjohnston is headed down for a party
[15:08] <cjohnston> (at jcastro's place)
[15:13] <czajkowski> paultag: me too
[15:13] <czajkowski> :/
[15:23] <cjohnston> jcastro: on  uds.u.c can you add as the last link on the main nav "Today" pointing to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/today but keep it hidden please?
[15:29] <dholbach> alright my friends - I have a train to catch - I'll see you tomorrow
[15:29] <dholbach> HUGS
[15:29] <cjohnston> o/
[15:30] <jcastro> cjohnston: oh right, good idea
[15:30] <jcastro> cjohnston: hey, dumb question, what do y'all set your thermostat to around here?
[15:30] <cjohnston> lol.. 77 day, 74 night here..
[15:30] <cjohnston> but we cant afford cooler
[15:31] <jcastro> does summit.u.c/today work?
[15:32] <jcastro> why doe we make it uds-specific?
[15:33] <cjohnston> we made it uds specific so that we can run simultaneous events
[15:34] <jcastro> there doesn't seem to be a way to hide a menu option
[15:34] <cjohnston> i thought there was
[15:34] <jcastro> just a link
[15:34] <jcastro> easy enough to add when we get there
[15:35] <cjohnston> well.. we were waiting on you to move to add it to summit
[15:35] <jcastro> no one ever asked me to add it to the main menu?
[15:35] <cjohnston> the patch for summit was ready the end of last week
[15:35] <cjohnston> you were getting ready to leave
[15:36] <cjohnston> so we left you alone
[15:36] <cjohnston> "waiting on you to move"
[15:44] <dpm> hi technoviking, do you know if is there an api or any way in which subforums from the Ubuntu forums can be shown from an external site? I.e. a wordpress site showing a view of the latest entries or something like that?
[15:47] <nhandler> dpm: You could use a frame of some sort or use a script to screenscrape it
[16:28] <nigelb> jcastro: nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/07/27/summit-improvements-and-bugfixes.html <3
[16:28] <mhall119> lack of http:// means it's not clickable in gnome-terminal
[16:29] <nigelb> mhall119: http://nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/07/27/summit-improvements-and-bugfixes.html
[16:30] <czajkowski> hmm
[16:32] <mhall119> nigelb: nice list
[16:34] <nigelb> mhall119: awk/perl goodness thanks to maco :)
[16:34] <mhall119> +1 maco
[16:36] <nhandler> nigelb: I like the font for the title. I thought it was animage at first
[16:37] <nigelb> nhandler: Its from google webfonts
[16:37] <nigelb> It had a lovely childness to it which I liked
[16:37] <czajkowski> I could so do with a drink
[16:37] <cjohnston> it represents you well
[16:40] <nigelb> cjohnston: hah
[16:46] <jcastro> <-- lunching
[17:21] <dpm> nhandler, thanks
[17:31] <jcastro> popey: ping
[18:00] <nigelb> <3 that there's a section for Ubuntu Unity in http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/610
[18:16] <paultag> nigelb: pro
[18:16] <paultag> d
[18:17] <nigelb> paultag: huh?
[18:17] <paultag> nigelb: prod :)
[18:17] <nigelb> paultag: ah, pon
[18:17] <nigelb> g
[18:17] <nigelb> :P
[18:17] <paultag> nigelb: I have an idea for an android app that will make us crazy happy with ourselvs
[18:17] <paultag> nigelb: if you have some time to hack with your ole' friend paul
[18:18] <nigelb> paultag: yessir, but after I finish my dream android app ;)
[18:18] <nigelb> lets move to a PM :D
[18:18] <paultag> nigelb: mkay :)
[18:18] <paultag> nigelb: kk
[18:33] <nigelb> oh wow -> http://www.romancortes.com/blog/pure-css-coke-can/
[19:46] <czajkowski> jcastro: ping
[19:47] <jcastro> hi
[19:48] <czajkowski> jcastro: is jono on tody ?
[19:48] <czajkowski> I ask as I've a call in a few hours wiht him
[19:50] <jcastro> I think he's at oscon still
[19:50] <jcastro> "enjoy the silence" is what I recommend. :D
[19:50] <czajkowski> fair enough
[19:51] <czajkowski> back to testing mates application so
[19:51] <czajkowski> kinda nice to be back writing test cases and finding bugs on a new system
[20:37] <daker> more linkedin spam :/
[20:53] <czajkowski> it's really annoying on the ML
[20:55] <daker> it's linkedin fault, it sends reminders periodically
[20:57] <maco> also it defaults to "select all" i think
[20:58] <nhandler> I don't see most of it, but it is possible for a list admin to block all linkedin spam from the list