[04:30] <karmic_koala> i need to fix internet in virtualbox running BT4
[04:30] <AdmiralDeath> has anyone else had problems with the administrative services?
[04:30] <jamescarr> what is the name of the file browser in gnome?
[04:30] <jamescarr> i want to open it in a terminal
[04:30] <tripelb> iflena is gone alas
[04:30] <jamescarr> nautlis
[04:30] <tripelb> ((It's the same cable as here. I just unplug it and put it in the other computer.))  Hardware report: (win) Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection Dhcp Server: <IP_ADDRESS>   Physical Address: 00:0C:F1:E8:CE:04  --- lspci lists: Ethernet controler: Intel Corp 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Contorller (rev 01)  --- ifconfig:  looks a lot like this one but 0 flow since it is not plugged in.
[04:30] <jamescarr> is there some way to map windows+e to launch nautlis?
[04:30] <tripelb> same problem: more testing I plugged it in. Did not pick up the wired signal. ifconfig changed to carrier 20 (rather than 0) and the modem pc and receive lights were flashing, send black.  -- SUM: not picking up wireless signal - not this computer another one.
[04:30] <iflema> tripelb on the box that wont go..... with the cable in..... is there an ip address in ifconfig?
[04:31] <tripelb> oh you are here! no ip addy in ifconfig
[04:31] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: you have to release the source code.  you can charge all you want for it...
[04:31] <SpaceCowboy40404> another question: what is this command doing: sudo chown -R ventrilo:ventrilo /etc/ventrilo
[04:31] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: changing ownership
[04:31] <h00k> jamescarr: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[04:31] <iflema> tripelb but is there any entry for eth0 or just lo?
[04:32] <SpaceCowboy40404> whats that mean?
[04:32] <DanDare> Hello. If I install Ubuntu 64bit, 32bit programs will work ?
[04:32] <jbrouhard> SpaceCowboy40404, it's changing the ownership of everything in /etc/ventrilo to the user ventrilo and group ventrilo
[04:32] <DanDare> What about the drivers ?
[04:32] <switch10_> SpaceCowboy40404: it changes the owner and the group of the file
[04:32] <h00k> SpaceCowboy40404: that recursively changes ownership to user 'ventrilo' in everything in the /etc/ventrilo folder
[04:32] <SecondInfinity> switch10: So if I have a GPL program that I have downloaded I can use it to provide a service (data backup for instance) and charge for that, but I have to offer them the source (like always)?
[04:32] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok cool thats what im wanting to do :)
[04:32] <AdmiralDeath> What can I do to fix my administrative services?
[04:33] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: thats my understanding..
[04:33] <h00k> SpaceCowboy40404: you can check the manpage of chown for more information
[04:33] <karmic_koala> how hould i configure the adaptors in net in virtualbox for have internet?
[04:34] <LuckySMack> my /etc/hostname file contains 'blah' and that is what is returned when running 'hostname' . this is what i have for my hosts/hostname files: http://pastebin.com/Shc51QZc
[04:34] <SpaceCowboy40404> this last part of the guide it gets kind of vague... can i link the guide and someone tell me what its doing and if the steps are right?
[04:34] <Morwind> Hey guys. Just deleted the partitions on a drive, and now I'm trying to format it. But I am getting this: Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mke2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
[04:34] <SecondInfinity> switch10: basically I want to use the ntfsprogs program ntfsclone to do windows image backups for people and either store them on their hard drives or on mine and then charge them a fee for it
[04:35] <Morwind> Any help?
[04:35] <AdmiralDeath> So noone knows? is there another channel I can get help in?
[04:35] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: I do that for a job.  Its totally legal.
[04:36] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Can you use sudo successfully?
[04:36] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: no one will want the source code either :)
[04:36] <AdmiralDeath> yes I can
[04:36] <SecondInfinity> switch10_: Its different that paid for programs because you have to buy a special license, but GPL stuff really lowers the entry barrier for that type of business/service
[04:36] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: So, it's just 'administrative services' that's giving you issues?
[04:36] <SecondInfinity> switch10_: you can pay like $100+ for the business license for some software.
[04:36] <AdmiralDeath> but when I go to open the update manager and ask it to check it just pulls up a blank white box
[04:36] <AdmiralDeath> yes
[04:36] <SpaceCowboy40404> this last part of the guide it gets kind of vague... can i link the guide and someone tell me what its doing and if the steps are right?
[04:37] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Alright, do you get errors if you run `sudo apt-get update` (close update manager, and any other package managers)
[04:37] <AdmiralDeath> ok give me a sec and I will try that
[04:38] <uLinux> is there a dc++ chat
[04:38] <switch10_> SecondInfinity: thats why I dont use that junk.
[04:38] <vladikoff> hey guys, need a little help with aptitude , i somehow selected all my packages and put it into 'apt-get autoremove' can someone help me deselect that
[04:38] <AdmiralDeath> ok it seems I can no longer open a terminal either
[04:39] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Which configuration files were you editing earlier?
[04:39] <AdmiralDeath> Nvidia driver
[04:39] <bluebaron> I have a laptop with a GeForce 9600M.  The monitor won't wake up after sleep.  Any help?
[04:39] <IdleOne> vladikoff: so now apt-get is waiting for you to either type y or n?
[04:39] <tripelb>  iflema there is an entry for etho0 eth1 and lo
[04:39] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Alright, that probably wasn't the cause of this.  Try ctrl-alt-f1 (use ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to your GUI) to get to a tty, and try it there.
[04:40] <vladikoff> IdleOne, it gave me a list of like 50+ packages and says, 'use apt-get autoremove' to remove them'
[04:40] <vladikoff> IdleOne, i was trying to access the menu in aptitude and i think pressed some weird buttons
[04:40] <IdleOne> vladikoff: ok, don't use that command
[04:40] <vladikoff> IdleOne, yeah i figured, it's scary
[04:41] <AdmiralDeath> It wont let me log in
[04:41] <AdmiralDeath> tells me incorrect login
[04:41] <IdleOne> vladikoff: iirc autoremove just deletes the .deb files but doesn't uninstall the packages
[04:41] <tripelb> admiral death. do you know how to change your password?
[04:41] <iflema> tripelb and onboard and pci network cards eth0 and eth1.... do not work but are listed without in ifconfig without ip addresses? yes?
[04:41] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Did you change any other config files recently?  sudoers? hostname stuff?
[04:41] <vladikoff> IdleOne, ah does the system need the deb files?
[04:41] <IdleOne> vladikoff: only to install
[04:42] <AdmiralDeath> No i dont know how to change my pass
[04:42] <bluebaron> I have a laptop with a GeForce 9600M.  The monitor won't wake up after sleep.  Any help?
[04:42] <tripelb> iflema, copying the line
[04:42] <vladikoff> IdleOne, ok i shall DO IT then
[04:42] <AdmiralDeath> and no I have not edited any other configs
[04:42] <jmcantrell> can anyone recommend a good notebook that's 100% compatible with ubuntu out of the box?
[04:43] <vladikoff> IdleOne, oh shit
[04:43] <Flannel> AdmiralDeath: Alright, well, I'd try rebooting, you might have a memory leak or something, and these symptoms sort of would make sense with that.  Do you have a LiveCD handy just incase you need to boot to that?
[04:43] <h00k> !language | vladikoff
[04:43] <IdleOne> vladikoff: what?
[04:43] <IdleOne> vladikoff: also please watch the language?
[04:43] <vladikoff> IdleOne, doomed
[04:43] <bluebaron> jmcantrell, the one you buy
[04:43] <h00k> jmcantrell: my EEE 1000 that I'm on is ;)
[04:43] <AdmiralDeath> yes I do have a CD handy. and I have tried rebooting
[04:43] <geekphreak> hi all
[04:43] <AdmiralDeath> should I try again?
[04:43] <IdleOne> vladikoff: doomed can mean so many things
[04:43] <geekphreak> IdleOne: howdy :)
[04:44] <jmcantrell> h00k: yep. that's what i have now. love it, but looking for something with more power
[04:44]  * uLinux new Lost episode "is out"
[04:44] <IdleOne> heya geekphreak
[04:44] <vladikoff> IdleOne, it's deleting everything now
[04:44] <vladikoff> ah well
[04:44] <vladikoff> thanks anyway
[04:44] <IdleOne> vladikoff: everything like what?>
[04:44] <hanasaki1> what would make my monitor go black after 10mins?
[04:44] <vladikoff> all my packages
[04:44] <vladikoff> not deb files
[04:44] <vladikoff> bye now
[04:44] <IdleOne> lies
[04:44] <h00k> hanasaki1: power save settings?
[04:44] <jmcantrell> i'm looking for a notebook that doesn't have all the bells and whistles. just power and solidly built
[04:44] <hanasaki> h00k: I turned those off in the gnome powermanager
[04:45] <uLinux> hanasaki, screensaver
[04:45] <uLinux> -.-
[04:45] <AdmiralDeath> I will try rebooting again
[04:45] <micael> hello i have just installed ubuntu but it cant find my screen it say unknown
[04:45] <bluebaron> jmcantrell, some features of any laptop might not be supported.  the only problems are sometimes graphics ... ethernet/wifi used to be a problem but it's much better now
[04:45] <h00k> hanasaki: your monitor might also have settings that make it do that
[04:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok easier question hopefully: I need to copy a text file whose path is: /home/ubuntu/ventrilo.txt to another directory located at: /etc/init.d what would i type?
[04:45] <tripelb> etho link encasp: ethernet HWaddr 00:c0:f0:58:18:68  /  inet5 addr: fe80::2c0:f0ff:fe58:1868:/64 Scope:Link   while on this computer I get  a real intet address looking number then Bcast:(another number then Mask another number  /nextline inet addr: and a similar thing. It's entirely missing.
[04:46] <tripelb> iflema, ^^^
[04:46] <micael> so now i have to run in 600x800
[04:46] <hanasaki> uLinux: h00k  the screen saver is set to set to 2 mins   / when the screen goes to screensaver its fine.. in 10mins it goes black and they system will not respond to keyboard or mouse.. even the numlock key won't turn its light on/off
[04:46] <SpaceCowboy40404> i am in the home/ubuntu directory
[04:46] <jmcantrell> bluebaron: that's what i'm asking. which laptop(s) work well with no tweaking?
[04:46] <iflema> tripelb pastebin.com and post link back
[04:46] <tripelb> iflema, I seem to have misplaced my flash drive
[04:46] <micael> anyone knows how to change screen
[04:46] <iflema> huh....
[04:46] <tripelb> I cant copy it except by hand.
[04:46] <bluebaron> jmcantrell, I'm saying, buy the one you want.  It will probably work.
[04:47] <SpaceCowboy40404> so would it be: sudo cp ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d
[04:47] <iflema> tripelb ok
[04:47] <hanasaki> h00k:  uLinux so it's a lockup after it goes black
[04:48] <tripelb> iflema, I can compare it to this one and tell you the differences. rx packets 1027 errores o dropped 0 the rest.... tx packets; 0 errors: 10 dropped, 0 overurns 0 frame
[04:48] <joshdreamland> All right, nothing's working
[04:48] <joshdreamland> I'm taking this into my own hands
[04:48] <h00k> hanasaki: it's not going into suspend or hibernate?
[04:48] <hanasaki> h00k:  don't think so... the fan is still running and it just "blinks" out to black.  power is still on
[04:49] <hanasaki> no major drive activity when it goes black
[04:49] <hanasaki> back in 10 mins.. wanna test something... h00k will you watch to see when it says my ID goes off line.. if it does....
[04:51] <iflema> tripelb if there is a listing for eth0... A (1) network card atleast is ready to go... now does this modem do dhcp?
[04:51] <SpaceCowboy40404> sudo cp ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d .........ha that worked im learning this stuff
[04:51] <AdmiralDeath> ok I tried restarting and it still wont let me log into the command line interface
[04:51] <SpaceCowboy40404> woot woot
[04:51] <tripelb> iflema, I dont know dhcp, what it means. This is a cable modem from Time-Warner.
[04:52] <micael> i have a acer sceern but ubuntu cant find it how can i tell ubuntu what screen i have
[04:52] <SpaceCowboy40404> now a hard question: How do I make a *.txt file an executable and add it to the boot sequence?
[04:53] <iflema> tripelb ok
[04:53] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: which cli you cannot get into ?
[04:53] <costre> SpaceCowboy40404, what's in this .txt?
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> I was told to press ctrl+alt+F1
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> and to log in
[04:54] <SpaceCowboy40404> costre: here is a link to it: http://rocketeerbkw.com/sites/default/files/ventrilo.txt
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> it says my login is incorrecty
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> incorrect*
[04:54] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: and you just get a blinkinh cursor?
[04:54] <AdmiralDeath> no
[04:54] <geekphreak> oh ok
[04:54] <SpaceCowboy40404> costre: i am mucking my way through this install guide :)O
[04:55] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: sure login name and passwd is ok , it is case senstive :)
[04:55] <iflema> tripelb have you setup a similar configuration like this for another ubuntu machine? what version of ubuntu?
[04:55] <AdmiralDeath> someone said it might be a memory leak
[04:55] <costre> SpaceCowboy40404, You could try to chmod +x the txt-file, and add the entire location of the txtfile to /etc/rc.local
[04:56] <costre> that should execute it at startup
[04:56] <SpaceCowboy40404> costre: does this acomplish that: sudo update-rc.d ventrilo default
[04:56] <costre> if it's executable :)
[04:56] <SpaceCowboy40404> costre: as far as i know its just a .txt file?
[04:56] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: dont think memory leak would give login ncorrect though afaik
[04:56] <costre> SpaceCowboy40404, Not sure, it kinda sounds like it
[04:57] <costre> SpaceCowboy40404, Yes, but it contains batch-like commands
[04:57] <AdmiralDeath> well I am having other problems as well
[04:57] <AdmiralDeath> I cannot update and cant open terminal
[04:58] <tripelb> iflema, I've done it many times. With ubuntu you just plug in and go. 6.04 ++ 9.04, 9.10 I have never had an issue, dsl or cable.
[04:58] <tripelb> same with win and ethernet
[04:58] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: same error message?
[04:58] <AdmiralDeath> no error message
[04:58] <Sevion> Hey, guys. I've been having a problem. I have Windows 7 installed on my main drive and a second drive has Ubuntu. Once I install Ubuntu, I have to restart. So I do so. Once I do, I can't boot anymore. I get a Grub Loading. and it just stops there. Sometimes it goes to Grub Rescue. I can get back onto Windows by repairing boot through the install disc. I've tried a few things with reinstalling GRUB2, but no dice.
[04:58] <AdmiralDeath> jsut blank white boxes
[04:58] <AdmiralDeath> just*
[04:58] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: are you logged into X?
[04:59] <AdmiralDeath> what is X?
[04:59] <AdmiralDeath> Sorry I am very new to this
[04:59] <geekphreak> do you desktop up ?
[04:59] <tomato> is there a simple way to restrict a user to his/her home directory only?
[04:59] <AdmiralDeath> yes my desktop is up
[04:59] <h00k> tomato: by default, they are
[04:59] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: press alt+f2, type gnome-terminal
[04:59] <AdmiralDeath> ok stand by
[04:59] <tomato> h00k: thanks! i'll try it
[04:59] <Sevion> Hey, guys. I've been having a problem. I have Windows 7 installed on my main drive and a second drive has Ubuntu. Once I install Ubuntu, I have to restart. So I do so. Once I do, I can't boot anymore. I get a Grub Loading. and it just stops there. Sometimes it goes to Grub Rescue. I can get back onto Windows by repairing boot through the install disc. I've tried a few things with reinstalling GRUB2, but no dice.
[05:00] <geekphreak> h00k: hello sir
[05:00] <h00k> geekphreak: hello there
[05:00] <navetz> is there a iTunes like media player for linux?
[05:01] <AdmiralDeath> ok I tried that and it is still just a blank white box
[05:01] <two> yo waddup
[05:01] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: nothing comes up ?
[05:01] <AdmiralDeath> just a blank white box where the terminal should be
[05:01] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: this whitebox, can you type command, is it like a terminal?
[05:02] <AdmiralDeath> no
[05:02] <geekphreak> k
[05:02] <lgc> Hi, what is "0>&1"?
[05:02] <AdmiralDeath> just a blank white qquare
[05:02] <AdmiralDeath> square*
[05:02] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: when you logged in what session did you choose ?
[05:02] <pourya> admiralDeath its possible that it cant find the icon
[05:02] <duleep> sevion: can u load grub
[05:02] <AdmiralDeath> what do you mean session?
[05:03] <Sevion> duleep: No. Grub hasn't been loading at all.
[05:03] <AdmiralDeath> It autolog's in
[05:03] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: when you start pc and enter login name /password, just below it ask you which session you wana choose , gnome , failsafe/kde
[05:03] <SpaceCowboy40404> arg... im stuck on this last step... the sudo update-rc.d ventrilo defaults
[05:03] <SpaceCowboy40404>  is giving me an error of: /etc/init.d/ventrilo: file does not exist
[05:03] <SpaceCowboy40404>  even though i am sitting here looking at it?
[05:03] <Sevion> duleep: It'll say Grub Loading. and stop. Nothing else happens past that point except for the occasional Grub Rescue.
[05:03] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: i think you took of X, the gui :)
[05:03] <AdmiralDeath> I have it set to login automatically
[05:03] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: did you uninstall any applications
[05:03] <AdmiralDeath> No
[05:04] <pourya> AdmiralDeath did you change your theme?
[05:04] <AdmiralDeath> no
[05:04] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: whats your login name?
[05:04] <hiexpo> what command is it to see what programs i have installed and also to print it
[05:04] <AdmiralDeath> inman
[05:05] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: and you are using that in ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[05:05] <AdmiralDeath> yes
[05:06] <SpaceCowboy40404> update-rc.d [-n] <basename> defaults [NN | SS KK]
[05:06] <SpaceCowboy40404> ....what are the NN and SSKK for?
[05:06] <genii> hiexpo: dpkg --get-selections > mypackages && gedit mypackages              from there just print it like any normal document
[05:06] <Sevion> duleep: Are you there?
[05:06] <duleep> yap
[05:06] <iflema> tripelb you have atleast one nic working so...... router changed config??? or cable stuffed???? or what did change by the way.... just oneday poof.... gone....?
[05:06] <crimsun> SpaceCowboy40404: explained in the man page for update-rc.d
[05:06] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: does anything open , when you press alt+f1
[05:06] <Sevion> duleep: Do you know how to fix this?
[05:06] <duleep> what os u first install?
[05:07] <Sevion> duleep: Windows 7
[05:07] <AdmiralDeath> yes it pulls up the command line interface
[05:07] <Sevion> duleep: I have it setup like this: HDD1 -> Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, HDD2 -> Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit
[05:07] <duleep> are u renstall grub using live cd?
[05:07] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: well bring cli up , so we can type some commands
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> I cannot type any commands
[05:08] <Sevion> duleep: I have tried reinstalling GRUB many different ways, none of them have worked.
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> it wants me to log in first
[05:08] <lgc> How can I change my root password system-wide?
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> tells me my login is wrong
[05:08] <Sereph> how do i restart the sound daemon?
[05:08] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: not ctrl+alt+f1 , just alt+f1
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> ah
[05:08] <AdmiralDeath> pulls up applications
[05:09] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: goto accesories, then open terminal, use arrow keys
[05:09] <hiexpo> thanks genii // but that does not show what i have compiled myself what will show that i forgot :(
[05:09] <uLinux> which internet monitor do you recommend for ubuntu?
[05:09] <Sereph> lgc: the root password is system wide there is only one
[05:09] <AdmiralDeath> ij standby
[05:09] <AdmiralDeath> ok*
[05:09] <duleep> waht did u mean setup?
[05:09] <AdmiralDeath> still just a blank white box
[05:10] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: even when you try to open terminal ?
[05:10] <genii> hiexpo: If you compiled them into deb packages it will show them.
[05:10] <Sevion> duleep: duleep: My first hard drive has Windows 7 Pro 64 bit installed on it and my second hard drive has Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit installed on it.
[05:10] <duleep> ok i got that
[05:11] <AdmiralDeath> yes even when I try and open terminal
[05:11] <genii> hiexpo: There is no real way to get a comprehensive list of stuff you have installed by compiling with something like make install where it puts them directly into the filesystem
[05:11] <kasun> !next
[05:11] <AdmiralDeath> should I just reinstall ubuntu?
[05:11] <Sereph> lgc: sudo passwd
[05:11] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: what happens when you press alt+f2?
[05:11] <AdmiralDeath> standby
[05:11] <hiexpo> genii,  - but like if i installed sh packages they don't and i know one i have installed that was a tar is not showing and its there and runs
[05:11] <Sereph> AdmiralDeath: whats the problem?
[05:12] <SpaceCowboy40404> ok i understand what the update-rc.d is doing now and my problem is with the text file inside the folder what i am trying to make an executable.. this is beyond my ability
[05:12] <hiexpo> genii, oh ok
[05:12] <AdmiralDeath> my administrative services and terminal are all out of whack
[05:12] <Sevion> duleep: Something new: When I boot up and hit F12 for boot options, I can select Hard Drive and then from there I can select the Hard Drive my Ubuntu is installed on. It will get to Grub Loading., error: no such partition, grub rescue>
[05:13] <AdmiralDeath> geekphreak it opens a run application prompt
[05:13] <genii> hiexpo: One of the points of having a packaging system is to be able to track what's installed. when you do make install or such it bypasses the package manager's ability to track it.
[05:13] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: good 1 sec
[05:13] <AdmiralDeath> ok
[05:13] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath:  can you tye this there?
[05:14] <AdmiralDeath> type what?
[05:14] <hiexpo> genii,  - true but many apps are not available in the repos so onemost install other ways ya know
[05:14] <SpaceCowboy40404> holy cheese and rice i have spent two days unsuccessfully trying to do what took me 5 minutes to do with windows... i wan tot stab myself in the eye with a rusty spork
[05:14] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: gksudo  gedit /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[05:14] <genii> hiexpo: If you look in the file ~/.bash_history it will have a record of commands you have recently typed in. You may find at least some of them there if you find something like: cd prog-name   then: make and: make install      etc
[05:14] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: what are you trying to do?
[05:14] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: commit suicide :)
[05:15] <genii> hiexpo: Otherwise it is up to you to keep good records of what you manually install
[05:15] <Sereph> and on a serious note?
[05:15] <geekphreak> h00k: yo there mate?
[05:15] <h00k> geekphreak: yes
[05:15] <SpaceCowboy40404> seraph: can i just link u the guide and show you were i got to when things started going wrong?
[05:15] <hiexpo> genii, ya i know i was just tring an easy way out because i am recopiling a new cd
[05:15] <Sereph> sure
[05:15] <geekphreak> h00k: what was the shortcut for gui to add user?
[05:15] <AdmiralDeath> ok standby I will try
[05:15] <Sereph> pm it to me if you'd like
[05:15] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: ok
[05:16] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: http://rocketeerbkw.com/content/installing-ventrilo-server-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala  .... i got to "Make vent start when computer boots"
[05:16] <duleep> if u don't have any document in ubuntu, can u try to reinstall ubhuntu your same drive
[05:16] <phenom> !flash
[05:16] <geekphreak> h00k: the one which is under system >>administration>>user and groups, any shortcut for it?
[05:16] <h00k> geekphreak: users-admin
[05:16] <geekphreak> h00k:  thanks
[05:17] <AdmiralDeath> it attempts to pull up the administrative services box and it is also a blank white box
[05:17] <h00k> geekphreak: no prob
[05:17] <phenom> Any one have info on a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/346289 ?
[05:17] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: ok last try
[05:17] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath:  press alt+f2 again
[05:17] <xiven> Hi
[05:17] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: be right back... for some reason my terminal is freakingout
[05:17] <phenom> Adobe flash is choppy in fullscreen, like in say youtube clips
[05:17] <AdmiralDeath> ok
[05:17] <tripelb> iflema, I have two different computers. This one, it works. The other one, it doesnt. -- I have no router. I just unplugged the ethenet from this computer and plugged it into the other one. -- no switches. Nothing.
[05:17] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath:  type gksudo users-admin
[05:18] <Sevion>  duleep: I have reinstalled Ubuntu multiple times, actually :-/
[05:18] <xiven> I've read that Scribus has a lot of problems on Ubuntu due to canonical patches. I found a how-to for fixing some..but it gives an instruction for the "Library Path" tab in QtConfig...I cannot find that tab.
[05:18] <lgc> Sereph, will that change the keyring password and my user password (which is the same by default)?
[05:18] <hiexpo> next question is when i open fspot it loads and than just closes
[05:18] <AdmiralDeath> ok geek I will try that
[05:19] <phenom> !gnash
[05:19] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: we are trying to add a user
[05:19] <lgc> xiven, I was told that years ago and had to stick with the Windoze version.
[05:19] <xiven> Gnash doesn't work very well unfortunately.
[05:19] <phenom> Any one have issues using gnash?
[05:19] <phenom> grr
[05:19] <duleep> sorry brother i'm not enough to solve your problem try with other
[05:19] <AdmiralDeath> ok again it trys to open the administrative services window and it is a blank white box
[05:19] <xiven> phenom> I experience a lot with Gnash it not loading videos
[05:19] <Out_Cold> what's the name of the character map installed in ubuntu?
[05:20] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: not good
[05:20] <xiven> I would recommend downloading the official Adobe Flash Player for Linux
[05:20] <AdmiralDeath> yeah thats what I thought
[05:20] <AdmiralDeath> I am going to reinstall
[05:20] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: did you change theme or do something man?
[05:20] <duleep> if u have any screenshot plz send
[05:20] <phenom> unfortunately watching youtube flicks and the like in full screen are too choppy to watch,, I remember this bug on another computer dating back to ibex iirc
[05:20] <xiven> It's not open source, but honestly...it works the best from the choices from my experiences
[05:20] <Sevion> Hey, guys. I've been having a problem. I have Windows 7 installed on my main drive and a second drive has Ubuntu. Once I install Ubuntu, I have to restart. So I do so. Once I do, I can't boot anymore. I get a Grub Loading. and it just stops there. Sometimes it goes to Grub Rescue. I can get back onto Windows by repairing boot through the install disc. I've tried a few things with reinstalling GRUB2, but no dice.
[05:20] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath:  ok , beofre you do that use live cd to backup your data on $HOME, if its not encrypted
[05:21] <phenom> xiven, Yea, I have the 64 bit version installed
[05:21] <tripelb> iferna I am trying to get ONE computer together that works. This one keeps freezing. No progress on that. (sometimes it seems flash and sometimes hardware) So I was given this other computer, tried it, installed Ubuntu, and does not see the internet signal. I say, OK I'll put in a second (PCI) ethernet card. (that's why there was eth0 and eth1)Still nothing.  [I am so basic, so unsophistocated, but I am trying to be clear.]  -- if I had $$ I would not be playing
[05:21] <tripelb>  with old computers. I bought this one used and it's been frying piece by piece.
[05:21] <AdmiralDeath> I have nothing on the HD anyway so it does not matter
[05:21] <phenom> And works fine other than the choppy issue
[05:21] <AdmiralDeath> I just installed it today
[05:21] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath: well then bombs away
[05:21] <h00k> Sevion: it sounds like windows ate your bootloader, you tried the 'recoverr grub after installing windows instructions' ?
[05:21] <AdmiralDeath> indeed
[05:21] <h00k> !who
[05:21] <xiven> phenom> Well if you have the official Flash player for linux, then you should be set
[05:21] <xiven> Unless you're looking for something open source
[05:21] <tomato> i created a new account, but the user can still access and look at folders beyond their home folder
[05:21] <phenom> xiven, No,, just looking for something that works heh
[05:21] <xiven> For open source I would look into swfcodec, or something like that
[05:21] <Sevion> h00k: I actually installed Windows before Ubuntu.
[05:21] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: ok im back
[05:22] <SpaceCowboy40404> Seraph: ok
[05:22] <tomato> is there something simple i can do to prevent the user from browsing beyond their home folder?
[05:22] <duleep> sevion: how do u send msg every time like this " duleep: "
[05:22] <Sevion> h00k: Though, when I repaired boot, it may have done that.
[05:22] <h00k> Sevion: are tou using any third party antivirus or backup solutions? those have a tendency to kill grub.
[05:22] <gogeta> tripelb: well wifi cards all need diffrent guieds
[05:22] <xiven> swfcodec, gnash,  and Adobe's Flash Player for Linux are the only choices I know of.
[05:22] <Sevion> duleep: Just type it out. Like: Sevion: <TEXT>
[05:22] <Sevion> h00k: I do have AVG Free
[05:22] <tripelb> phenom: my understanding is that the official adobe flash works best. I went to all kinds of trouble to remove the other and install that.
[05:22] <xiven> What options can anyone tell me about for a PDF Editor/PDF Creator for linux?
[05:22] <h00k> Sevion: any backup managers?
[05:22] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: im going to neet the link again though
[05:23] <Sevion> h00k: None.
[05:23] <h00k> xiven: Openoffice can save to PDF
[05:23] <g0r3_0f_g0d> hi ppl
[05:23] <tripelb> gogeta, I am not talking about a wifi card. I am only plugging into a WIRED connection.
[05:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: http://rocketeerbkw.com/content/installing-ventrilo-server-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala  .... i got to "Make vent start when computer boots"
[05:23] <xiven> Last time I used OpenOffice to create a PDF or open a PDF, when I viewed result with a viewer, it was all messed up
[05:23] <h00k> Sevion: usually that causes problems, things overwrite the MBR without looking
[05:23] <h00k> xiven: openoffice isn't for opening PDF's but it will create them
[05:23] <gogeta> tripelb: that should work pretty easly unless your not using auto ip
[05:23] <xiven> Plus, I don't want to have to next tables in OO.O in order to mix pictures into text and stuf
[05:23] <g0r3_0f_g0d> has anyone got an opinion , what is better virtual box or vmware wkstation under ubuntu
[05:24] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: what seems to be the problem?
[05:24] <Sevion> h00k: Well, I have gone into my Windows install disc and used bootrec.exe /fixboot and bootrec.exe /fixmbr, would that do anything? I have tried reinstalling GRUB2 after doing these actions.
[05:24] <gogeta> g0r3_0f_g0d: well vbox is free
[05:24] <xiven> My use is desktop publishing, newspaper as PDF (or any other worthy file format [released version should not be editable])
[05:24] <tripelb> gogeta, it always works automatically, in windows or ubuntu, but on this particular computer it does not. A standard Ubuntu 9.04 liveCD
[05:24] <phenom> tripelb, Ill keep hacking at it. But this is very unfortunate, this bug has been around for a long time, but this is an upstream issue I'm sure.
[05:24] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: i dont know what the hell im doing starting with that step or im following the commands incorrectly as they are not working
[05:24] <hanasaki> h00k: looks like its something to do with the 3D screen savers.. the 2D don't lockup
[05:25] <xiven> gore> VBox is better if you like open source, VMware is commercial and expensive but does work a little better IMHO
[05:25] <g0r3_0f_g0d> yeah doesn't that mean in theory that vmware should be better if they dare charging for it , i mean like more stable n stuff
[05:25] <h00k> Sevion: those will kill your grub, you then should be able to reinstall grub using instructions online to your mbr, boot into Ubuntu, do a sudo update-grub, and you should be set
[05:25] <hanasaki> xiven:  any news on what oracle plans to do w/ vbox?
[05:25] <gogeta> tripelb: wrong cable types if its a old machine its picky
[05:25] <h00k> ubottu: grub2 | Sevion
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[05:25] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: you did the other steps correctly?
[05:25] <xiven> There may be, I haven't kept up on the news of it
[05:25] <Sevion> h00k: Okay, I will try. Stand by for results.
[05:25] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: as far as i know I did, all the commands went through with no errors
[05:26] <h00k> Sevion: hilight me, I'll probably be away
[05:26] <Guest18416> I hate linux and am thinking about switching back to windows because there is no way to mount drives automatically at startup.
[05:26] <phenom> Every thing that could have gone wrong installing ubuntu/linux,, went wrong heh
[05:26] <tripelb> phenom, you can look at ubuntuforums.org for a post by old_grey_wolf  (or gray??) - I have had success pasting what he said.
[05:26] <xiven> Unless its covered by IT Business Edge, or TechRepublic, Codeplex, or one of those..I won't see it
[05:26] <Sevion> h00k: Hilight? How?
[05:26] <Sereph> Guest18416: /etc/fstab
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest18416: sure there is, how do you think your / partition mounts at boot!?
[05:26] <h00k> Sevion: exactly how you just did :) just my name
[05:26] <gogeta> tripelb: if your trying to ue your cat5 crossover vs a standerd eathernet stragt cable on a machine without autosence it will not work
[05:26] <Sevion> h00k: Alright!
[05:26] <h00k> Sevion: Good luck
[05:26] <hiexpo> when i try to open fspot it loads than closes
[05:26] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: so you got an error with the first part of that?
[05:26] <Sevion> h00k: Trying now, afk. Thanks.
[05:27] <cbilljones> hey im having an issue: zotac mobo using ion chipset, connected to TV via HDMI, screen is occasionally going black, video/audio are working, any suggestions?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: run it from a terminal, the output may be useful
[05:27] <xiven> VBox is the one I like (and not just because its free), although I hate the fact that it won't allow me to go to the resolution my screen can support (because its external, the built-in LCD requires a slightly different res)
[05:27] <tripelb> gogeta: again I am taking the standard ethernet cable out of one computer and putting it in another. Nothing strange. Even old computers are standardized on ethernet 10/100
[05:27] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, ok let me see was just gonna do that :)
[05:27] <gogeta> tripelb: without autosence they do not accept cat5
[05:27] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: it says to do cp /path/to/ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d/ventrilo
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: what is the output of: lsb_release -c    ?
[05:27] <SpaceCowboy40404> Sereph: my problemn starts at: sudo update-rc.d ventrilo defaults
[05:28] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: did you do that cp command?
[05:28] <SpaceCowboy40404> yes
[05:28] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: yes
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> tripleb: it will need to be a crossover cable for p2p, patch cables wont work in that situation
[05:28] <tripelb> gogeta, this is not helping. This is a standard cable. I am only changing the computer it is plugged into. It works. It doesnt.  THE SAME CABLE.
[05:28] <cbilljones> actionparsnip karmic
[05:28] <tomato> is there a simple way to restrict a user to his/her home directory only? as in, they cannot cd to / ?
[05:28] <gogeta> tripelb: and yout not listing
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: ok cool
[05:28] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: are you getting an error?
[05:29] <tripelb> gogeta, every computer I have ever used is like that. Yes and you are not even spelling.
[05:29] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: and i can see the txt file in the /etc/init.d/ventrilo directory as well
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: have you added the nvidia vpau ppa and installed the 195 driver?
[05:29] <xiven> Is there any way to get OpenOffice to support the placing of texts and images the same way which Scribus would?
[05:29] <Sereph> there is your problem then
[05:29] <tripelb> gogeta, I am listening. It is not a crossover.
[05:29] <gogeta> tripelb: ok type lspci and see if ubuntu is seeing the nics
[05:29] <Sereph> /etc/init.d/ventrilo is not a directory
[05:29] <tripelb> tomato I'd like to know.
[05:29] <iflema> tripelb well get one....
[05:29] <cbilljones> actioparsnip: i tried, but im using 185 atm
[05:29]  * xiven suddenly wonders if it would do any good to run the Windows version of Scribus under wine
[05:29] <Sereph> it should be a file with the contents of ventrilo.txt
[05:29] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: yes when i enter in: sudo update-rc.d ventrilo defaults
[05:29] <SpaceCowboy40404>  i get the following error: /etc/init.d/ventrilo: file does not exist
[05:30] <tripelb> I did. gogeta.  Yes it sees the card.
[05:30] <tomato> tripelb: so far i've been reading about jails and bash replacements
[05:30] <tripelb> iferna, I should get what?
[05:30] <micael> anyone know why i can only have a resolution 800x600
[05:30] <gogeta> tripelb: then check your roguhter settings it may be rejeccting the connection
[05:30] <xiven> Is Scribus' main problem is being a Qt application, instead of being integrated into KDE?
[05:30] <iflema> tripelb if where talking old hardware a crossover inbtween ya cable modem may be required
[05:30] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: im going to reinstall the 195 driver
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> micael: you havent configured your video driver correctly
[05:31]  * iflema exeption to the rule....
[05:31] <tripelb> tomato, I was shocked when I saw my user could access files.  I would like to have a really limited user. I dont even want him to see all the programs installed. (ditto my windows users) I want life to be simple for them.
[05:31] <tripelb> gogeta, I dont have a router.
[05:31] <gogeta> tripelb: LOL
[05:31] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: thats because the file doesnt exist you made it a directory
[05:31] <tomato> triplelb: here is the best guide i've found so far, though i don't really understand it. it looks the simplest out of them all, http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/how-to-restrict-access-with-rbash/
[05:31] <micael> ActionParsnip i am very new so i dont really know how to do it i have been looking for a program to do it
[05:32] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: you lost me there.. what do i need to do to make it a file and not a directory?
[05:32] <gogeta> tripelb: this will sound stupid but if your connected directly with a cable modem. unplug the modem wait 30 seconds plug in power up pc
[05:32] <micael> i am not good in console
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> micael: run: lspci | grep -i vga    use the output to find guides
[05:32] <Sereph> remove the /etc/init.d/ventrilo directory and then run cp /path/to/ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d/ventrilo
[05:32] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/uDPTc1HG
[05:32] <gogeta> tripelb:  cable modems will reject a pc untill you do that
[05:32] <Sereph> replacing /path/to with the real path obviously
[05:32] <xiven> I have some trouble with launchpad, what is there to be done for K/Ubuntu in Java or C#?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> http://pastebin.com/uDPTc1HG
[05:32] <tripelb> iferna: a crossover between my cable modem and what? Every set up I have ever seen, windows or linux, dsl or cable, one plugs fromt he modem (or router) into the ethernet card and it is online. Simple.
[05:33] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: im confused
[05:33] <DanDare> It´s NTFS3G Ubuntu release reliable enought for writing data ?
[05:33] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: where is ventrilo.txt
[05:33] <gogeta> tripelb: did you just say crossover pfft
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: ok then check the bug logs for stuff like that, or log a new bug
[05:33] <tripelb> gogeta. I dont have to do that with this computer... or any other. I can just plug in and unplug. the modem doesnt reject this computer. That's imagination.
[05:34] <hiexpo> ok
[05:34] <micael> ok but where do i find that lspci  (here)    grep  -i vga
[05:34] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: it is in: /etc/init.d/ventrilo
[05:34] <gogeta> tripelb: then dont do it thats how you fix it
[05:34] <tomato> tripelb: i found a better guide, on the ubuntu forums, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248724
[05:34] <gogeta> tripelb: just keep crying abought it
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> tripleb: interconnection device to PC uses a patch cable, if you connect PC to PC then you need to setup a static IP as well as use a crossover cable.
[05:34] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: mv /etc/init.d/ventrilo/ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d/
[05:34] <iflema> tripelb if the box you where given is old it may require a crossover cable for the cable modem.....
[05:35] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: tell me after you've done this
[05:35] <h00k> iflema: no, it won't. they've never required crossover cables
[05:35] <tripelb> thank you all for your help. insistence that you are right. I've done help-desk. I know up from down, even if I dont get it to work.  -- ActionParsnip I am NOT connecting computer to computer (in which case I would need a crossover cable)
[05:35] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: done
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: ok thats cool,
[05:35] <iflema> tripelb you not listing..... new hardware auto detects and sorts it for you... older stuff does not
[05:35] <tripelb> same problem: more testing I plugged it in. Did not pick up the wired signal. ifconfig changed to carrier 20 (rather than 0) and the modem pc and receive lights were flashing, send black.  -- SUM: not picking up wireless signal - not this computer another one.
[05:36] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: rm -rf /etc/init.d/ventrilo/
[05:36] <brah-> channels more empty than usual
[05:36] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: i got sick og telling him abought cable types and old machines
[05:36] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: done
[05:36] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: he takes no advice just complanes
[05:36] <tripelb> same problem: more testing I plugged it in. Did not pick up the wired signal. ifconfig changed to carrier 20 (rather than 0) and the modem pc and receive lights were flashing, send black.  -- SUM: not picking up wireless signal - not this computer another one.
[05:36] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: mv /etc/init.d/ventrilo.txt /etc/init.d/ventrilo
[05:37] <cbilljones> ok 195 nividia driver installed, screen still going black :(
[05:37] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: done
[05:37] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: sudo update-rc.d ventrilo defaults
[05:38] <tripelb> The 8 year old compaq computer detected it automatically. This one does. I've never seen one that doesnt. IF it were that kind then what would I do, iflema .. If I need to somehow "detect" it, what would I do to tell it to "detect" it?
[05:38] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: ha worked that time :)
[05:38] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: :)
[05:38] <gogeta> tripelb: so you are trying to cat 5 crossover it on a machine without autosence
[05:38] <phenom> tripelb, xiven, fyi this workaround http://blog.nachtarbeiter.net/2009/08/19/choppy-flash-video-in-full-screen-mode-on-ubuntu/ seems to work better than other fixes sated in http://blog.nachtarbeiter.net/2009/08/19/choppy-flash-video-in-full-screen-mode-on-ubuntu/  and the like.
[05:38] <Sereph> glad to be of service
[05:38] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: testing app now :)
[05:38] <gogeta> tripelb: not all device have autosence
[05:38] <gogeta> tripelb: age makes no diffrence
[05:38] <Sereph> stupid cat...
[05:38] <iflema> tripelb ignore me.... cable modems need a straight through..... sorry
[05:38] <tripelb> gogeta, i have no idea what you are talking about - what would you think I could try?
[05:39] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: hahah you rock .. can you now tell me what i did wrong so i can understand it?
[05:39] <gogeta> iflema: not if it has autosence
[05:39]  * iflema lol
[05:39] <RP64> hi
[05:39] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: somehow you made a directory in /etc/init.d/ called ventrilo when all you needed was a file called ventrilo that contained the instructions to start it which were in ventrilo.txt
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: try a new cable maybe?
[05:39] <gogeta> tripelb: your machine probly lacks autosence it will need a crossover for a pc tp pc link
[05:39] <tripelb> iflema, the output from a cable modem is just like the output from a dsl modem. AFAIK and has acted the same with my two other computers. (whatever their flaws.
[05:39] <RP64> I have huge problems after updating my ubuntu to 9.10 guys
[05:39] <RP64> HUUUUUGe problems...
[05:39] <RP64> im really dissapointed in ubuntu
[05:40] <RP64> this is really bad
[05:40] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, the cable works perfectly with this computer.
[05:40] <Sereph> RP64: explain yourself
[05:40] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: im not understanding the difference between a directory and a file
[05:40] <tripelb> gogeta, I do not want to make a pc to pc link.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> RP64: can you give some details or we cant help you
[05:40] <geekphreak> RP64: just ask man
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: ok, worth a shot
[05:40] <RP64> well, I updated it to 9.10 in the auto online update thing
[05:40] <mneptok> tripelb: so what is the problem? you plug into the cable modem and ... ?
[05:40] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: directory is a folder
[05:40] <gogeta> tripelb: then pc to modem link the modem will need a reset to pick up the change
[05:40] <tripelb> SpaceCowboy40404, a directory is a container for files
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: if you set a staic ip does it work?
[05:40] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: i installed the latest nvidia drivers(195) and screen is still blacking out(loses audio as well at that point) any more suggestion?
[05:40] <RP64> after updating, it restarts the computer, and my custom login screen with sounds is gone, its the default ubuntu human login screen
[05:40] <RP64> after logging in, it plays my custom login sound, but i see that the firefox logo is gone off the computer
[05:41] <RP64> so I just see a big red X where the firefox logos should be
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: latest bios may help
[05:41] <RP64> and, it won't recognize that I have a wireless card
[05:41] <bazhang> !enter | RP64
[05:41] <gogeta> tripelb: tech support guys call that power cycling
[05:41] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: so did you just have me create a ventrilo file by just removing the .txt on ventrilo.txt?
[05:41] <Sereph> basically
[05:41] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: ok cool
[05:41] <Sereph> but you had to move it out of the directory and remove the directory first
[05:41] <RP64> and I have no wired connection so if it doesn't recognize my wireless card then I can't use internet on it, my wired connection is being used by my parents computer and I can't hook mine up aswell its in a really far room
[05:41] <RP64> so what should I do sereph or somebody ?
[05:42] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: for the mobo? im thinking its a TV setting somewhere, couldnt get audio either at first but worked that part out
[05:42] <Sereph> thats why cp /path/to/txt/file /etc/init.d/ventrilo would have worked fine
[05:42] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: unfortunatly that guide was inaccurate and my vent server still doesnt work :(
[05:42] <Sereph> did you edit the ini or whatever?
[05:42] <RP64> sereph: what should I do what is this ?? why did this happen?
[05:42] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: yes
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: try setting a lower refresh rate
[05:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: wait.. i edited the ini file when it was in the donload directory not after i moved it to the other directory
[05:43] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I cant change my ip. this works on this computer. np. the other compter does not see the signal.  mneptok I have a computer 9.10 it works. I unplug the internet signal cable from the ehternet, plug it into this other cmputer, no pickup of signal evident, though ifconfig shows some difference and the pc and receive light flash madly. I unplug it and plug it back in this computer, as normal works fine.
[05:43] <RP64> OK UPDATE: I just restarted it again, and now the wireless is being recognized, however my custom login screen and sound is still missing, and the FIREFOX logos are still missing, WTF????
[05:43] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: should be fine still. is this a server or a homepc?
[05:43] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: nvidia-settings doesnt let me adjust refresh
[05:43] <mneptok> tripelb: does you ISP use PPPoE or somesuch?
[05:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: laptop
[05:43] <gogeta> tripelb: its easy to do conect modem to pc thats not working power modem and pc off then plug modem back in and power up. its pretty likly that will fix your issue
[05:43] <RP64> WTF???
[05:43] <mneptok> *your
[05:43] <Sereph> !language | RP64
[05:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: on a wired connection behind a router
[05:44] <geekphreak> RP64: relax man :)
[05:44] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: port forwarded?
[05:44] <tripelb> mneptok, I have no idea. it's timewarner
[05:44] <gogeta> minedmind: itmakesno diffrence its the ac adress change that the modem needs to see
[05:44] <RP64> geekphreak: but im freaking out i mean , why is this stuff happening??
[05:44] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: yes port 3784 for both tcp and udp
[05:44] <tripelb> gogeta, I hear you and I am listening and I disagree. Thanks anyway.
[05:44] <Sereph> im going to kill this cat
[05:44] <mneptok> tripelb: also, does the cable modem bind to a specific MAC address for the client machine?
[05:44] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph to this machines internal ip address
[05:44] <geekphreak> RP64: well sometimes thing break, and you gotta fix it, look at it this way, you might learn something
[05:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: blah blah .102
[05:45] <gogeta> minedmind: most cable modems do why i told him to power cycle
[05:45] <mneptok> tripelb: it's unlikely TW uses PPPoE. that's usually a DSL thang.
[05:45] <Sereph> RP64: windows does this sort of thing rather often
[05:45] <RP64> geekphreak: but... shouldn't it be designed so that updating doesn't break your system ... -___     -
[05:45] <davekong> what is the current version of openssl being used in 9.10?
[05:45] <RP64> geekphreak: I mean if updating is required anyways
[05:45] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: hm.. im not really sure.. im falling asleep
[05:45] <aetaric> mneptok: they don't use pppoe
[05:45] <tripelb> mneptok, I dont think so. Let me power up a THIRD computer and see if that works. -- I've had no issues doing the same plug in plug out with a dsl from ATT.
[05:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> sereph: me too ill work on this some more tomorrow, thanks for the help
[05:45] <tripelb> Oy have to set it up...
[05:45] <Sereph> RP64: there is a disclaimer to backup files and settings just in case
[05:45] <gogeta> mneptok: i told him how if he doesent wanna take 30 seconds to do it itss his problem
[05:45] <mneptok> tripelb: that's AT&T. this is TW.
[05:45] <Sereph> SpaceCowboy40404: no problem
[05:46] <RP64> sereph: my stuffs all backed up
[05:46] <geekphreak> RP64: , it does not break it , i and most of us here, update no worries here,
[05:46] <tripelb> sudden urge for Chocolate mneptok
[05:46] <Sereph> RP64: well thats good
[05:46] <adelcampo> RP64: what did you upgrade from?
[05:46] <RP64> sereph: but im just saying that now theres these problems and how do I fix them  D: :(((( "???
[05:46] <RP64> adelcampo: from 9.04
[05:46] <Sereph> -asleep-
[05:46] <mneptok> tripelb: there is not meatspace DCC on IRC, son.
[05:46] <aetaric> i don't think 9.10 lets you change the login screen?
[05:46] <RP64> aetaric: It doesnt???? they removed that ??
[05:47] <RP64> !!! ............
[05:47] <adelcampo> uhoh, he's going to freak out some more
[05:47] <RP64> thats...
[05:47] <RP64> bad
[05:47] <micael> ActionParsnip i did write lspci and then enter and then i wrote  grep -i vga and then nothing happend
[05:47] <aetaric> i *think*.... but i could be wrong. i hardly use ubuntu with a GUI so i could careless
[05:47] <geekphreak> micael: they have to be in same line :)
[05:48] <mneptok> tripelb: i'd wager that TW cable modem binds to a specific client MAC address at boot and blocks any others. the advice to power cycle the modem is good advice. do that, then plug in another machine, and "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart"
[05:48] <adelcampo> RP64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294929
[05:48] <RP64> lol hardly use with a GUI oh man that's actually kind of cool what kind of haxxoring are you up to ?
[05:48] <theadmin> Oookay, help me out with SSH a bit. My web host provided me with two SSH keys (public/private), which of them do i use for login and what is the second one for? o_O
[05:48] <RP64> oh thanks adelcampo
[05:48] <RP64> to everyone: But why is the Firefox Logo totally gone after update??
[05:49] <theadmin> RP64: That's some craziness Ubuntu people made up
[05:49] <aetaric> RP64: i run servers.... for a desktop OS i use OS X. (no flame wars please)
[05:49] <RP64> lols
[05:49] <gogeta> mneptok: i know they do comcast modems do that to i lost count on how many come in hear with that but they listion
[05:49] <micael> geekphreak ok  thanks i will try it
[05:49] <adelcampo> OS X is very nice
[05:49] <RP64> theadmin: so what am I supposed to do about using firefox?? download the logo for it again?
[05:49] <adelcampo> RP64: you mean a desktop icon?
[05:49] <RP64> adelcampo: yea desktop and startbar
[05:50] <theadmin> RP64: If you updated to 3.6 from 3.5 then you probably can't do much
[05:50] <geekphreak> theadmin: you trying to login to there ssh servers?
[05:50] <RP64> adelcampo: and I know it's not called startbar i just don't know what its called in ubuntu
[05:50] <theadmin> geekphreak: Well, yep
[05:50] <RP64> theadmin: HUH? its from 9.04 to 9.10 ... ???
[05:50] <theadmin> RP64: Ohhh
[05:50] <RP64> theadmin: you mean version of firefox then how can I even tell if it did that?
[05:50] <adelcampo> RP64: click on applications then internet and drag the firefox icon to where ever you want it to show
[05:50] <theadmin> RP64: Lol then you must install firefox-3.5-branding package
[05:50] <RP64> adelcampo: if I were to have installed from scratch using the CD would these problems be here
[05:51] <RP64> to adelcampo & theadmin: wait so which one of your advices should I do .
[05:51] <geekphreak> theadmin:  you will need to use there public key , which they sent you to access there ssh servers afaik
[05:51] <theadmin> geekphreak: What's the private one for?
[05:51] <theadmin> o_O
[05:51] <adelcampo> RP64: pick the easiest first
[05:51] <RP64> adelcampo: so theadmin's ???
[05:51] <aetaric> RP64: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[05:51] <adelcampo> RP64: what ever is easy for you
[05:51] <aetaric> there, go crazy
[05:51] <RP64> lol
[05:51] <micael> geekphreak thanks but that did not help me i dont understand anything of that
[05:51] <RP64> so I have to hack it omg
[05:52] <theadmin> RP64: well, try this first to tell if branding is installed: dpkg -l | grep 'firefox-3.5-branding'
[05:52] <aetaric> not really 'hack' more like enter a few cli commands
[05:52] <theadmin> lol windows people think CLI = hacking
[05:52] <adelcampo> hack is as meaningful these days as "amazing"
[05:52] <RP64> theadmin: is that a small L or a 1
[05:53] <geekphreak> micael: you need to give the result that comes out to the person who asked you to run that command :)
[05:53] <theadmin> RP64: Copy-paste if you're unsure :P that's an L
[05:53] <Jordan_U> adelcampo: Amazing insight!
[05:53] <RP64> theadmin: lol well I used ubuntu for 1 year alreadyi just said "hacking" cus the name of the forum post says hack in the title...
[05:53] <RP64> theadmin: im not on ubuntu for this chat this is my windows comp, got my laptop ubuntu on my leftside im double comping it up gangsta style
[05:53] <micael> geekpreak ok thanks
[05:53] <adelcampo> Jordan_U: i'll hack your limbs
[05:53] <Sevion> h00k: Are you there?
[05:54] <gogeta> mneptok: his silence answers tat for me lol
[05:54] <RP64> theadmin: it responds with information on the package, so i guess its installed
[05:54] <theadmin> RP64: I assume it has "ii" there right
[05:54] <theadmin> ?
[05:56] <RP64> theadmin: yeah
[05:56] <RP64> theadmin :D:D
[05:56] <RP64> bad or good?
[05:56] <theadmin> RP64: Well, then o_O Hm... good, but you may need to assign the icon manually
[05:56] <Sevion> h00k: I can now get past Grub Loading. I followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 Instruction #13. However, now I get to the "GNU GRUB version 1.97 beta 4 [Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/flies completions] sh:grub>" screen. When I type boot, it says "error: no loaded kernel". When I try to use any
[05:57] <RP64> theadmin: lol and in the synaptic it says that firefox 3.5 branding is installed ...
[05:57] <theadmin> RP64: The icon file is /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox-3.5.png
[05:57] <adelcampo> RP64: i'm about to leave but it's worth a try if you click on applications then go to Internet and there drag the firefox icon to where ever you want it to show
[05:57] <mala1> hi
[05:57] <RP64> adelcampo: OK ill try that also
[05:58] <RP64> theadmin: is that the same icon as the one you're referencing? like same size same file?
[05:58] <mala1> how to make Transliteration for  tamil to english ?
[06:00] <Sevion> h00k: Are you there?
[06:00] <Jordan_U> Sevion: If you "ls /boot" from the grub shell do you see your kernels?
[06:01] <Sevion> Jordan_U I see "grub/" and that's it.
[06:01] <raj> GUYS to replace your medibuntu software sources ( default are doewn) USE this: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html   replace lucid with karmic works 100% i used the second mirror :)
[06:01] <genii> raj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810 Or use one of the mirrors listed at this bug report
[06:02] <Jordan_U> Sevion: You don't have grub installed to your Ubuntu partition then (at least the part of it in the filesystem). What grub-install command did you use?
[06:02] <Sevion> Jordan_U I used sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX per the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 on #13
[06:03] <Jordan_U> Sevion: Was your Ubuntu partition mounted to /mnt?
[06:04] <Sevion> Jordan_U: I'm not sure. Should I try reinstalling Ubuntu completely on that drive?
[06:04] <theadmin> I can't connect to my FTP :/
[06:04] <geekphreak> theadmin: sftp?
[06:04] <Jordan_U> Sevion: No need, just follow the guide again but "ls /mnt" before the grub-install to confirm you have the right partition mounted.
[06:05] <Sevion> Jordan_U: Alright, stand by for results.
[06:05] <theadmin> geekphreak: Nope, regular FTP, their SFTP is down. Normal one is up but i can't connect, it just does nothing
[06:06] <geekphreak> theadmin: what client are you using to connect?
[06:06] <theadmin> geekphreak: nautilus
[06:06] <geekphreak> theadmin: want to try something?
[06:06] <theadmin> geekphreak: hm?
[06:06] <geekphreak> theadmin: is it anonymous or login account?
[06:06] <theadmin> geekphreak: login
[06:07] <geekphreak> theadmin: ok open terminal , then type ftp address
[06:07] <RP64> bakk gais
[06:07] <geekphreak> wow i used a command without sudo, i must be getting good lol
[06:07] <RP64> 8D
[06:07] <DeM0nFiRe> Hello
[06:07] <RP64> theadmin: U never answerd me??? D:
[06:08] <theadmin> RP64: sry, i dunno
[06:08] <RP64> theadmin: is the icon he suggested the same as the one you suggested
[06:08] <RP64> thedmin: Phft
[06:08] <theadmin> geekphreak: k it asks for password
[06:08] <DeM0nFiRe> I was wondering if anyone here's been able to get OpenGL 3d hardware accelleration on a Radeon 5000 series card on Ubuntu
[06:08] <theadmin> geekphreak: Let's see
[06:08] <DeM0nFiRe> If so, what drivers did you use?
[06:08] <dsnyders> What advantages does ubuntu have over mandriva?
[06:10] <geekphreak> theadmin: any luck dude?
[06:11] <theadmin> geekphreak: pastebining it
[06:11] <theadmin> geekphreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419645/
[06:11] <Sevion> Jordan_U: Hey! It seems to have worked! Thanks!
[06:12] <DeM0nFiRe> Do the latest Linux Catalyst drivers work properly in Ubuntu?
[06:12] <Sevion> h00k: Thanks for all of your help earlier; I seem to have got it to work!
[06:13] <voss749> Demon, did they ever work?
[06:13] <DeM0nFiRe> I don't know, that's what I am asking
[06:13] <RP64> guys is there a chance that in the future, it will return to the old version of GDM?
[06:13] <DeM0nFiRe> I am using Fedora now, but I am thinking of switching if I can use it as a dev platform for my OpenGL engine
[06:13] <znxtch> I played with Compiz advanced effects.  I got in over my head so I deleted the Compiz advanced effects package in an attempt to restore everything to default appearance settings.  Everything looks like it has returned to normal EXCEPT my window minimize and maximize animation. I tried going to System>Pref>Appeareance and setting the display settngs back to 'Normal'.  But it did not work.  My windows have a very fast shimmying effect and then they "suck" to
[06:13] <znxtch> the bottom of the screen.
[06:13] <voss749> dsnyders, Get a live cd and test it out for yourself
[06:14] <Jordan_U> Sevion: You're welcome.
[06:14] <theadmin> geekphreak: Goddamit, what kind of a full I am :/ I totally forgot FTP password differs from CPanel one
[06:14] <znxtch> Does anyone know how to turn this off?
[06:14] <theadmin> sed s/full/fool/
[06:14] <RP64> new GDM is inferior shows your login name, and no customization option by default... if its only slight speed advantage maybe its not worth it I mean who passed this decision?!?!
[06:14] <geekphreak> theadmin: hehe :)
[06:14] <voss749> dsnyder, with a live cd you can test it without committing
[06:14] <Jordan_U> RP64: No, but new GDM will become more configurable over time.
[06:14] <RP64> Jordan_U: How do u know that?
[06:15] <geekphreak> theadmin: its ok we all make mistake :)
[06:15] <DeM0nFiRe> voss749: was that @ me?
[06:15] <voss749> demonfire, try a live cd too
[06:15] <Jordan_U> RP64: Because the GNOME developers said so.
[06:15] <DeM0nFiRe> yeah, ok. I'll try it when I get a chance. I was just hoping someone would know already. I'll just wait a while
[06:15] <RP64> Jordan_U: why isn't it customizable already tho... -_______       -
[06:15] <DeM0nFiRe> Maybe Fedora will eventually get support
[06:16] <voss749> demon, you can even use a usb flash drive to fully test it out with a persistent install on the flash drive
[06:16] <Jordan_U> RP64: I don't know.
[06:16] <tripelb> test
[06:16] <RP64> ing
[06:16] <RP64> 123
[06:17] <RP64> and god said Check check, check check, and abraham said to god Please speak closer to the mic, I cannot hear you and god said Check Check, sound test one two three, check
[06:17] <voss749> demon, I know nvidia drivers work pretty well, I dont know about ATI
[06:17] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: The new F13 is beautiful if you are looking to switch. Even tho that is not relevant to you needs lol.
[06:17] <bazhang> RP64, please stop that
[06:17] <RP64> bazhang: Oh really
[06:17] <DeM0nFiRe> lol crucialhoax I need OpenGL. The only reason I have linux installed is for cross platform game dev :P
[06:18] <theadmin> heh, my webhost is hilarious :D It has two folders, second one symlinks to first, public_html and www
[06:18] <voss749> crucial, The thing about Fedora it always feels like a freakin beta test. Its like red hat uses fedora users to test its new dog food
[06:18] <tptptptptp> is shorewall now obsolete for ubuntu?
[06:18] <theadmin> Well, got to go now
[06:19] <jaldhar> I thought the problem with boot hanging was fixed.  I just upgraded from jaunty to lucid and I am having this problem (unfortunately on my root partition.)  Oddly enough it doesn't happen if I boot into the 2.6.31-18 I luckily had laying around
[06:19] <clickme> hi everyone
[06:19] <tripelb> mneptok, OK talked to a screechy lady at TimeWarner who told me it's my computer, lol, that I need to reset between, so I did that. I then looked and saw your command suggestions >  sudo invoke -rc.d networking restart  < result was "sudo: invoke: command not found  -- this on 9.04 live cd
[06:19] <tripelb> click
[06:19] <jaldhar> is it an initrd problem?
[06:19] <billy2007> !lucid | jaldhar
[06:19] <tptptptptp> is shorewall now obsolete for ubuntu?
[06:19] <voss749> crucial, you can supposedly see the difference in stability between Fedora and Centos which builds its code from RHEL
[06:19] <jaldhar> ok off to #ubuntu+1 then
[06:19] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: Like I said, my comment was irrelevant :)
[06:19] <DeM0nFiRe> lol
[06:20] <genii> tptptptptp: Probably not since apt-cache search shorewall shows it available for install under Lucid
[06:20] <DeM0nFiRe> Seems wierd that I can't find anyone who knows if the 5800 series cards work in any linux distro xD
[06:20] <billy2007> bazhang, you here?
[06:20] <tptptptptp> genii, what is shorewall-common? that's the only package.
[06:20] <crucialhoax> voss749: I learned on CentOS and that OS is immensely stable. Has some old packages but rarely froze to cause a reboot.
[06:20] <bazhang> billy2007, hi
[06:21] <billy2007> bazhang, i was speaking to you the other day about my webcam i dont know if you remember
[06:21] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: What does google suggest?
[06:21] <voss749> Demon, is this good enough http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/AMD-Catalyst-Driver-Supports-Radeon-5800-and-Ubuntu-9.10
[06:21] <DeM0nFiRe> I've been searching, haven't found anything yet
[06:21] <rocket161> billy2007: bazhang: This is the Support Channel. Please don't make offtopic discussions here.
[06:21] <genii> tptptptptp: http://pastebin.com/DG1jBczX shows the results here. More than just shorewall-comman
[06:22] <billy2007> rocket161, how about NO you dont even know what were talking about
[06:22] <DeM0nFiRe> Oh thanks voss749 interesting
[06:22] <xpurple`> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a computer and things are fine till it goes to partiton, it does not show my drive.  Though, I can mount the drive in live mode.  Any ideas.
[06:22] <rocket161> !offtopic > billy2007
[06:22] <billy2007> rocket161, m8 go away
[06:23] <voss749> demon, so 5800 cards are supported in ubuntu 9.10 and im sure that support will carryover into 10.04
[06:23] <billy2007> u still here bazhang
[06:23] <DeM0nFiRe> Cool, I will try it when I get a chance then
[06:23] <bazhang> billy2007, have you checked the webcam support list yet? that would be a good place to start.
[06:23] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: Does it work on a LiveCD?
[06:23] <voss749> Demon, hence my suggestion for a live usb drive then if you like it you can have the live usb install to the hard drive
[06:23] <bazhang> !webcam | billy2007
[06:23] <billy2007> ive looked high and low m8 no luck :(
[06:24] <billy2007> we looked there last time
[06:24] <bazhang> billy2007, what make and model I will check the forums
[06:24] <DeM0nFiRe> Oh, heh, a live USB, I don't have a USB stick, I only have a USB external drive which already has other stuff in it
[06:24] <DeM0nFiRe> I thought maybe you could load the drivers into memory through a live CD
[06:24] <billy2007> 2 secs bear with me
[06:24] <voss749> demonfire you can do that too
[06:24] <DeM0nFiRe> Oh, really?
[06:24] <crucialhoax> DeM0nFiRe: USB's are bootable.
[06:25] <DeM0nFiRe> I know
[06:25] <DeM0nFiRe> I thought he was suggesting to install Ubuntu on the USB, not as a live image
[06:25] <crucialhoax> You can install it fully.
[06:25] <tripelb> I have a cable modem and only one of my 3 haphazard computers will connect. this is 9.10 the others were 9.04-liveCD. I dont get it. Can anyone help? I called TimeWarner and they said, must be your computer. (standard push-off) Our cable obviously works. (Yes I tried powercycling between connections)
[06:25] <DeM0nFiRe> I don't want to, I just said that :P
[06:25] <voss749> Demon you can install a persistent version of ubuntu on a usb stick
[06:25] <bazhang> DeM0nFiRe, you can make it persistent if you wish
[06:25] <DeM0nFiRe> I don't want to make it persistent, lol
[06:26] <DeM0nFiRe> I want it to be a temp live image
[06:26] <voss749> or use it just like an install cd except its faster
[06:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Yeah, only I don't have a USB stick ATM, but I do need one
[06:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Maybe I will head down to radio shack tomorrow
[06:26] <voss749> usb installs tend to be a lot faster and less problem prone than cd installs (no coasters)
[06:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Yep
[06:27] <billy2007> bazhang, its a logitech quick cam chat but i cant seem to download a driver from anywhere and it dosnt work on that cheese program you reccomended last time
[06:27] <DeM0nFiRe> You know what I should do? Just make myself a nice utility USB disk. You can chain grub loaders, right?
[06:27] <DeM0nFiRe> IE, have one of the options in the GRUB menu be another GRUB installation?
[06:28] <bazhang> billy2007, could you paste the output of lsusb and lspci to paste.ubuntu.com please
[06:28] <voss749> Demonfire, A 4gb stick will do fine, radioshack has a 4gb sandisk cruzer on sale for $14.99
[06:28] <billy2007> bazhang, m/n v-ubc40
[06:28] <tptptptptp> genii, I don't get those results
[06:28] <billy2007> whats that??
[06:29] <Jordan_U> DeM0nFiRe: Yes.
[06:29] <DeM0nFiRe> Cool
[06:29] <tptptptptp> nvm
[06:29] <billy2007> bazhang, sorry whats lsusb and lspci
[06:29] <DeM0nFiRe> That will be cool then, because I can just make a nice utility USB with Ubuntu, Fedora, SuperGRUBdisk, gparted live cd
[06:29] <DeM0nFiRe> ANd when a new version of one comes out, I can just plug in the new version :D
[06:29] <bazhang> billy2007, commands to be run in the terminal and then put on paste.ubuntu.com
[06:30] <geekphreak> DeM0nFiRe: all i need is ubuntu, it has everything :)
[06:30] <Jordan_U> DeM0nFiRe: It can also boot LiveCDs from isos, so you can create a live system on your current USB drive without repartitioning.
[06:30] <DeM0nFiRe> lol, well, I actually did use to use a Ubuntu livecd as my rescue disk
[06:30] <DeM0nFiRe> But I found a couple things it couldn't quite do for me, so I added some stuff
[06:31] <tripelb> voss749, radioshack isnt cheap. frys online officemax all cheaper. prolly other places depending on location.
[06:31] <DeM0nFiRe> Well, I will be walking down to radioschak, I am not going to bother ordering online for one USB stick
[06:31] <DeM0nFiRe> radioshack*
[06:31] <billy2007> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/JSaLSKfZ
[06:32] <DeM0nFiRe> I guess the supermarket has a couple USB sticks as well, so we'll see
[06:32] <tripelb> DeM0nFiRe, works for you fine.
[06:32] <billy2007> rocket16, now tell me im "off-topic"
[06:32] <crucialhoax> lol @ billy2007
[06:32] <tripelb> I have a cable modem and only one of my 3 haphazard computers will connect. this is 9.10 the others were 9.04-liveCD. I dont get it. Can anyone help? I called TimeWarner and they said, must be your computer. (standard push-off) Our cable obviously works. (Yes I tried powercycling between connections)
[06:33] <Optimus55> Hey i have no xorg.conf on my laptop and i'm trying to install some s3 drivers. dpkg-reconfigure didn't make an xorg. any ideas?
[06:33] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: xorg.conf is not needed. But X server will recognize it if you do make one.
[06:33] <rocket16> billy2007: You're welcome to discuss about Webcam and other related matters, but things like "Hi Bazhang, how are you?" aren't allowed here. Please do not repeat such things in future, since this channel is a Support channel.
[06:33] <billy2007> crucialhoax, i hate it when people do that he didnt even know what we were talking about and he's butting in
[06:33] <aetr> shshshs
[06:34] <bazhang> rocket16, please stop that
[06:34] <billy2007> rocket16, i think youll find i didnt say that
[06:34] <Optimus55> crucialhoax: it doesn't recognize my (older) s3 card so i want to make one to specify the savage driver. How do i do this, or is there a better way?
[06:34] <billy2007> i asked him if he was here
[06:34] <bazhang> billy2007, I dont see a webcam in those; were they plugged in?
[06:34] <tripelb> hereverybody here knows so much more than I do. I'll have to give it up till another day. Thanks for your help iflema
[06:34] <billy2007> yes it was let me try a different port
[06:34] <aetr> what tthe little fuck?
[06:34] <rocket16> billy2007: You did, please stop such drama on the support channel.
[06:34] <tripelb> iflema, you may not have seen my results
[06:34] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: Let me check, I might have a tut in my bookmarks
[06:35] <bazhang> aetr, watch the language
[06:35] <geekphreak> aetr: watch language please
[06:35] <aetr> ok
[06:35] <billy2007> rocket16, go back and check then you idiot
[06:35] <bazhang> billy2007, that's enough
[06:35] <billy2007> sorry
[06:35] <tripelb> iflema,  I have a cable modem and only one of my 3 haphazard computers will connect. this is 9.10 the others were 9.04-liveCD. I dont get it. Can anyone help? I called TimeWarner and they said, must be your computer. (standard push-off) Our cable obviously works. (Yes I tried powercycling between connections)
[06:35] <billy2007> ah its here now ill just pstebin it quick
[06:35] <tripelb> iflema, mneptok, OK talked to a screechy lady at TimeWarner who told me it's my computer, lol, that I need to reset between, so I did that. I then looked and saw your command suggestions >  sudo invoke -rc.d networking restart  < result was "sudo: invoke: command not found  -- this on 9.04 live cd
[06:36] <rocket16> billy2007: Hey, last warning to you, watch your language.
[06:36] <wrapster> guys after i revived my machine from a potential disk space issue.. any time i try to download a file i get an error like this... "There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp/DNRtVZ1q.bin.part."
[06:36] <wrapster> im  unable to download antyhing...
[06:36] <rocket16> bazhang: Continue misusing your Operator status, and you'll get the result,
[06:36] <RP64> hai gais 8D
[06:36] <wrapster> and the / partiton has 537M free still
[06:36] <billy2007> bazhang can you shut him up or im gunna end up getting banned
[06:36] <DeM0nFiRe> So thanks for the help voss749 and Jordan_U. I currently have fedora installed, and when I asked about ATI in fedora, they told me to get Nvidia 0_0
[06:37] <tripelb> wrapster empty trash. how much free space do you have? maybe burn some cd's and free up more space (like I did).
[06:37] <mneptok> tripelb: "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart"
[06:37] <RP64> .
[06:37] <mneptok> tripelb: you added a space
[06:37] <billy2007> bazhang, thankyou http://pastebin.com/PJvANTBh
[06:37] <geekphreak> wrapster: hey you are back again :)
[06:37] <tripelb> mneptok, oh
[06:37] <mneptok> tripelb: and hove you power-cycled the modem?
[06:37] <tripelb> mn
[06:37] <DeM0nFiRe> lol, Jordan_U has been helping me all day in 3 different channels, haha
[06:37] <Optimus55> crucialhoax: any luck?
[06:37] <geekphreak> wrapster:  do you download a lot man ?
[06:37] <the_file> any1 good with notepad++?.
[06:37] <wrapster> geekphreak: yeah
[06:37] <wrapster> quite a lot all my office work infact.
[06:37] <sasayins> how can i access window shared folder?
[06:37] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: I think maybe this will work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[06:38] <geekphreak> wrapster: backit up to cd or external drive, leave some space on hdd bud
[06:38] <DeM0nFiRe> the_file: notepad++ is awesome why?
[06:38] <tripelb> mneptok, yes powercycled. oh re the space. search on my name and see the two meaty reports. oh one has your name on it anyway.
[06:38] <wrapster> geekphreak: ok
[06:38] <Daemonic> anyone here with a working Radeon 4600 series?
[06:38] <dick> hello
[06:38] <Optimus55> crucialhoax: thanks will try
[06:38] <dick> any one interested in diamond jewelry?
[06:39] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: No problem, let us know if you need more info.  But interetingly THIS computer immediatly seeks (round thing on panel circles like two fish)  but the other one (that's computer number 1. this is number2. The one I was fussing with at first is number 3. (order of getting them.)
[06:40] <billy2007> !ubuntu | dick
[06:40] <Jordan_U> co_shifty: Have you tried booting in "recovery mode"?
[06:40] <billy2007> not what i was looking for
[06:40] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: This came up when searching for the `savage` driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192023
[06:40] <the_file> anyone know how to get autocomplete trigger without me pressing ctrl+space bar in notepad++?.
[06:41] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, I have ^_^, su log in the startx works fine, just doesn't boot
[06:41] <dick> Vintage Engagement Rings http://www.mividazul.com/
[06:41] <bazhang> billy2007, it seems to be supported with the gspac v4l2 driver http://moinejf.free.fr/webcam.html
[06:41] <geekphreak> wrapster:  for some reason, that link aint openng here
[06:41] <genii> dick: No ads here
[06:41] <wrapster> geekphreak: ah the problem could also be this.. I usually work on my machine so much that i dont switch it off at all (only once a week) so till then everything will just pile up in tmp.
[06:41] <Kcj1993> Hello, can someone help me get a 3g modem working in 9.10?
[06:41] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, *then I type startx
[06:41] <wrapster> geekphreak: ok i'll paste it elswhere.. one sec.
[06:41] <geekphreak> wrapster:  opened now 1 sec
[06:41] <wrapster> geekphreak: ok
[06:42] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, yea starting gui from recovery console works, but normal boot gives me the problem I described
[06:42]  * genii hands mneptok a tasty cookie
[06:42]  * mneptok devours it instantly, crumbs flying
[06:43] <billy2007> ah thankyou bazhang you dont know where i can download this driver by anychance?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> co_shifty: Can you try pressing 'e' in the grub menu to edit the normal menu entry and remove "splash" from the kernel parameters?
[06:43] <geekphreak> wrapster: the issue is overflow in output?
[06:43] <DeM0nFiRe> Ahh, I guess maybe I will get a coiple of the 4GB drives from RS
[06:43] <bazhang> billy2007, let me check, just a moment
[06:43] <billy2007> thanks
[06:43] <wrapster> geekphreak: i guess so
[06:43] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, sure, I'll try that, I'll have to get back to you in a few minutes.
[06:44] <tripelb> OK then mneptok iflema will powercycle now.
[06:44] <azverkan> st
[06:44] <geekphreak> wrapster:  you got plenty of space on other partition, why not empty some on main?
[06:45] <jhambo> ...doesn't really want to be debugging what's supposed to be the "stable" version of ubuntu but would like to have kmail work...
[06:45] <wrapster> geekphreak: yes i know.. but there is nothing in main
[06:45] <geekphreak> wrapster:  still it has just 500 mb left with nothing on it?
[06:45] <wrapster> i dont have anything kept under /..
[06:45] <bazhang> billy2007, does it work with camorama? are you trying to use it with skype or some other application?
[06:45] <wrapster> geekphreak: yeah thats what i dont understand.
[06:46] <geekphreak> wrapster: can you do something for me
[06:46] <RP64> hey guys im having some weird problem with my speakers/headphones after updating my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10
[06:46] <wrapster> geekphreak: i went through the contents and could not find anything apart from a few vbox pkgs
[06:46] <Kcj1993> hello? I really hate using windoze.
[06:46] <wrapster> geekphreak: what?
[06:46] <subone> trying to run stat on a series of files so i can tell if i've seen videos recently, but the access times do not coincide with my viewing them recently. Why wouldn't the access time be updated? NTFS external drive
[06:46] <geekphreak> wrapster: press alt+f1, then goto accesories, see anything which says disk usage
[06:46] <billy2007> skype hopefully yes i found which driver i need its zc3xx
[06:46] <RP64> my speakers keep crackling really small-ly / lightly, every minute or so, like a little "pop" but it comes out of my actual speakers and headphones at the same time , while headphones are plugged in
[06:46] <RP64> Why is this ??????
[06:46] <billy2007> but i cant find the download
[06:47] <mjabirk> hi
[06:47] <wrapster> geekphreak: disk usage analyser.. im in it
[06:47] <crucialhoax> RP64: In a terminal type `lshw -C Sound` please
[06:47] <crucialhoax> RP64: I may have a solution
[06:47] <geekphreak> wrapster: please do check which folder is taking so much space  on your main system
[06:47] <RP64> WAIT
[06:48] <RP64> it says
[06:48] <RP64> warning : you should use this program as super user
[06:48] <RP64> ???
[06:48] <crucialhoax> RP64: Just let it run...
[06:48] <RP64> ok i did
[06:48] <crucialhoax> It does not need to be ran as SU.
[06:48] <jhambo> launching kmail gives me a segmentation fault with the following dumped to the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419658/.  Any help figuring out whats going on would be greatly appreciated
[06:48] <RP64> so what should I do afterwards? i inputed it, it gave me a list
[06:48] <crucialhoax> Why does chromium state the only differences are branding, usage stats, and auto update, if chromium is in the repos?
[06:49] <RP64> oh and after i unplugged my headphones the crackling stopped
[06:49] <RP64> from physical speaker aswell
[06:49] <mneptok> RP64: please keep questions on as few lines as possible. you have been asked before. it's now becoming distracting.
[06:49] <crucialhoax> RP64: Post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[06:49] <RP64> OK
[06:49] <afd__> hi! I'd like to make java applets work in my browser, but I don't have sun-java6-plugin package in my synaptic. What do I do?
[06:49] <srulit> Hi! This is my first experience both with a chat as well as Ubuntu/Linux. I am having problem with my sound, I do not get any. I can not find how I can configure my sound. I have tried sound preference where I only find one alternative for the output being "Dummy output Stereo". What does it mean and what can I do to get the sound working?
[06:50] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, well dude it worked, no idea why :P
[06:50] <RP64> cucialhoax: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419659/
[06:52] <billy2007> bazhang, you still here?
[06:52] <RP64> question to all: Is the GDM GTK theme your login screen?
[06:52] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, I am wondering why it worked, and if splash is needed in boot comands
[06:52] <crucialhoax> RP64: Give me a minute to find the tutorial please.
[06:52] <Jordan_U> co_shifty: You can remove splash from the default kernel parameters by editing /etc/default/grub then running "sudo update-grub". It's likely that you'll be able to enable splash again without problems once lucid is released and you upgrade because lucid uses a completely new boot splash, plymouth.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> co_shifty: All it does is show that nice little white ubuntu icon during boot.
[06:53] <RP64> crucialhoax: Lol OK no probs
[06:53] <wrapster> geekphreak: it just says 100% used on / and thats all
[06:53] <wrapster> cant actually find out where its coming from
[06:53] <co_shifty> Jordan_U, oh right, it didn't show up, kk I will do that, I'm also thinking of trying the beta :), can't wait
[06:53] <bazhang> billy2007, sorry, was on the phone; http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=691191 this link may have some info on that webcam
[06:53] <geekphreak> wrapster: open terminal
[06:54] <wrapster> geekphreak: doe
[06:54] <wrapster> geekphreak: done
[06:54] <geekphreak> wrapster:  type du -sh $HOME
[06:54] <crucialhoax> RP64: Ok, do you have a term open?
[06:54] <billy2007> thsnk you bazhang
[06:54] <RP64> crucialhoax: yea
[06:55] <wrapster> geekphreak: 384M
[06:56] <geekphreak> wrapster: thats not bad at all  , do you have any other account on this system too?
[06:56] <Optimus55> crucialhoax: got it working, eventually did a gdm stop then Xorg -reconfigure
[06:56] <wrapster> geekphreak: no
[06:56] <Optimus55> made an xorg file i copied to the X11 folder and now the screen refreshes are faster
[06:56] <crucialhoax> Optimus55: Nice going! I will keep that in mind :)
[06:57] <Daemonic> WHY WHY WHY DO ATI DRIVERS SUCKS SO BAD! ARGH!
[06:57] <RP64> mneptok: Bitte habe kein zorn, wir sind alle brudere hier mein kind
[06:58] <tripelb> I did it. powecycled, ran invoke-rc.d successfully.  mneptok, iflema back. no results. ifconfig shows no connection. RX packet shows 9380 erorrs TX 11 errors and txqueuelen:1000  == but no lights flashing but pc. Plug this one in, autoconnect.
[06:58] <geekphreak> wrapster: run that command for /tmp and /var plz
[06:58] <crucialhoax> RP64: type `gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf`
[06:59] <RP64> crucialhoax: OK
[06:59] <wrapster> geekphreak: /tmp -> 8K ; /var -> 271M
[06:59] <Daemonic> fgl_glxgears = 200fps @ 800x600? on a quad core intel with a 4670HD Radeon. NICE NICE NICE!
[06:59] <crucialhoax> Now do a Control+F to find and type power then see if the term is in there.
[06:59] <tripelb> RP64, Please no anger, we has is all brudere my child here"   (google translation)
[06:59] <crucialhoax> RP64: Now do a Control+F to find and type power then see if the term is in there.
[06:59] <RP64> crucialhoax:  OK, now it opens a text file oh OK, wait WHAT term?
[07:00] <RP64> oh OK
[07:00] <tripelb> twiddles
[07:00] <xpurple`> When I try to install ubuntu the "prepare partitions" section is empty.  I can mount the drive I'm trying to install manually.  Any ideas?
[07:00] <RP64> crucialhoax:  yes it finds the word power
[07:00] <geekphreak> wrapster: thats not bad either to be honest
[07:01] <mneptok> RP64: why are you speaking German?
[07:01] <wrapster> geekphreak: i know.. so where is this space taking up from? :(
[07:01] <RP64> mneptop: because you're from frankfurt
[07:01] <crucialhoax> RP64: Ok, is this what is looks like? ptions snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
[07:01] <mneptok> RP64: uh. no.
[07:01] <RP64> mneptok: yes you are
[07:02] <geekphreak> wrapster: prob you got too many applications installed
[07:02] <RP64> crucialhoax:  yeah it says that
[07:02] <wrapster> geekphreak: yeah that could be a possiblity.
[07:02] <wrapster> hmm..
[07:02] <crucialhoax> RP64: Change the `10` to a `0` then save the file and close it.
[07:02] <mneptok> RP64: i think your meds may have expired.
[07:02] <Daemonic> no one here uses ATI video cards?
[07:02] <Daemonic> doesn't surprise me
[07:02] <RP64> mneptok: yeah they did the voices are getting louder
[07:02] <RP64> crucialhoax:  OK are you sure that won't break anything?!
[07:02] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: I've got an ATI card, but I have a 5850
[07:03] <geekphreak> wrapster:  but you have to be very arefull with removing those application so as not to take out other dependent lib. and other files , keep that in mind , specially the X
[07:03] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: latest ati driver from their site?
[07:03] <DeM0nFiRe> I am not using them, because I am on Fedora ATM
[07:03] <wrapster> hmm.. ok
[07:03] <mneptok> RP64: it's better you stay on support related topics.
[07:03] <DeM0nFiRe> I am going to test them on Ubuntu soon
[07:03] <tripelb> I have a cable modem. It works on this computer (9.10) plugged into the ethernet port. So far it does not work on two other computers (9.04 liveCD) Is thins normal? The gal at TimeWarnes screeches at me that it's on my end. ((Yes I powercycled and  yes I am using the same cable coming from the modem just plugging it into a different computer
[07:03] <crucialhoax> RP64: It is just telling the system not to power down the sound driver.
[07:04] <RP64> mneptok: I am on support topics I'm just responding why you asked why I'm speaking German and I was because you are german that's all , Im actually in middle of discussion about support right now
[07:04] <RP64> crucialhoax:  OH so this is only part 1 of more steps?
[07:04] <crucialhoax> RP64: Have you already saved the file?
[07:04]  * tripelb is persistent
[07:04] <RP64> crucialhoax:  yes
[07:04] <tripelb> will keep an eye on this chat.
[07:05] <geekphreak> wrapster: listen dude , terminal still open?
[07:05] <mneptok> tripelb: power cycled the modem?
[07:05] <Daemonic> tripelb: motorola?
[07:05] <crucialhoax> RP64: Then I am assuming the file is closed, go ahead and reboot and see if the sound still pops.
[07:05] <Joundill> Hey guys
[07:05] <RP64> crucialhoax:  OK :D but does this have any bad side effects or other changes?  Just don't say "sticky", explain please?
[07:10] <RP64_> daemonic: its just a joke dawg...
[07:10] <crucialhoax> RP64: I told you it worked
[07:10] <Daemonic> really? I thought you were seriously ghetto.
[07:10] <crucialhoax> haha wow.
[07:10] <zenlunatic> theadmin, man umask
[07:10] <psypher246> hello all, does anyone have any experience with evolution and the exchange connector, my domain admins have gone and changed a whole bunch of stuff and now i cannot connect to exhcnage anymore, they are not helpful, they don't support linux :(
[07:11] <theadmin> zenlunatic: No manual page for umask
[07:11] <frankie_> HELLO I NEED HELP
[07:11] <RP64> woah it fixed itself? tihs chat is magic..
[07:11] <crucialhoax> Everything here is magical.
[07:11] <theadmin> frankie_: 1) Don't caps 2) with what?
[07:11] <mneptok> frankie_: the <capslock> key is next to the "a" on US keyboards. does that solve your problem? ;)
[07:11] <zenlunatic> theadmin, google
[07:11] <hunahpu> frankie_: Hello, try not to use caps they mean you're yelling and that's rude; do you have a question?
[07:12] <frankie_> i did not know
[07:12] <theadmin> frankie_: Don't worry. What's your problem?
[07:12] <crucialhoax> zenlunatic: That was helpful
[07:13] <frankie_> I use windows and my friend tells me to try linux but I am worried how do i know linux is good ?
[07:13] <theadmin> frankie_: Uhm. Linux ain't "better" or "worse", it's different
[07:13] <DeM0nFiRe> If you don't know why you should use linux, you shouldn't
[07:13] <RP64> ANYONE here know how to change
[07:13] <RP64>  login screen + sounds on this new GDK?
[07:13] <DeM0nFiRe> Windows is generally a much easier to use OS
[07:13] <hunahpu> frankie_: Linux is "the best" for some of us, but may not be the best for other people.
[07:14] <Daemonic> frankie_: you try it.
[07:14] <DeM0nFiRe> And it more friendly for the average desktop user
[07:14] <RP64> OOPS that being split onto 2 lines was accident Mr. Admin i was trying to copy paste that and it got messed up
[07:14] <theadmin> ubottu: tell frankie_ about wubi
[07:14] <crucialhoax> theadmin: Does this help? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-July/085257.html
[07:14] <hunahpu> frankie_: you can try it and find out if it's for you, download Ubuntu and try it out, you don't have to install it you can try it out using the LiveCD, it won't touch your hard drive.
[07:14] <deserteagle> hello all
[07:14] <frankie_> thank you ubottu i will see
[07:14] <theadmin> frankie_: Linux Mint, however, might be a better "starting point" for newbies
[07:15] <hunahpu> frankie_: there is no virus, spyware, automatic trojans, etc... it feels really good not to be worried 24/7, it's liberating.
[07:15] <Daemonic> I vote for Linuxmint too
[07:15] <RP64> Anyone here know how to update my grub 1.5 to the new grub 2?? im on the newest Ubuntu version but my grub is still the old grub
[07:15] <frankie_> i was told to try linux mint and ubuntu.. i dont have a probelm with learning new things
[07:15] <crucialhoax> Sleep is better with Ubuntu.
[07:15] <Daemonic> good newb f00d
[07:15] <hunahpu> hello deserteagle how can we help you?
[07:15] <deserteagle> question: I'm having flash issues on FF: can't load facebook games or get to the flash settings manager page to erase the cache, any clues?
[07:15] <RP64> I vote for ubuntu, its easy for nubblets
[07:15] <Resbaloso> It is time to put those Haitian jigaboos in their place!    Mexicali had a worse earthquake than Haiti, and only about 4 people died!  Even the housing of the poor generally held up! Meanwhile even the Haitian elites couldn't build decent buildings.
[07:15] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: What version of FF are you using?
[07:15] <Resbaloso> Look at what happened to the house of their monkey president!  If you are sick of the fecal beast Join Chimpout Forum!
[07:15] <hunahpu> frankie_: both are great, Mint is based on Ubuntu :)
[07:15] <FloodBot4> Resbaloso: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:16] <RP64> LOL @ resbaloso racist comment
[07:16] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, 3.5.9
[07:16] <RP64> pls ban
[07:16] <DeM0nFiRe> tbh with you, I tried giving people who didn't have windows to install Ubuntu instead, and they didn't like it
[07:16] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: OK, so which flash are you using?
[07:16] <deserteagle> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:16] <deserteagle> iirc
[07:17] <deserteagle> yeah, that
[07:17] <frankie_> i will download the live cd of linux mint and try ubuntu too. i am on a laptop and not much to lose
[07:17] <hunahpu> RP64: that kind of comments are usually the result of fear, I actually feel sorry for guys like that one who can't control it :)
[07:17] <crucialhoax> The latest I think. Did you download libflashplayer.so or did you use the one in the repos?
[07:17] <psypher246> hello, could anyone please assist me with evolution, i am unable to connect to exchange since things were changed
[07:17] <theadmin> frankie_: Be prepared, however, to use the terminal now and then
[07:17] <deserteagle> umm... I installed from Adobe's site?
[07:17] <hunahpu> frankie_: read this website, it will anser a lot of your questions: http://www.getlinux.org
[07:17] <RP64> hunahpu: lol
[07:17] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: That might be why, does flash work anywhere?
[07:17] <deserteagle> yup yup
[07:18] <crucialhoax> hmmph
[07:18] <hunahpu> frankie_: my bad, it is http://www.getgnulinux.org
[07:18] <frankie_> that is the only thing i am scared of. i see linux users type in their terminal and i do not know how to use :/
[07:18] <theadmin> frankie_: We can help
[07:18] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: 32bit or 64?
[07:18] <DeM0nFiRe> frankie you should get a live CD of Ubuntu and try that out first.  I can't get shit for performance out of it in linux though.
[07:20] <Daemonic> this is seriously annoying.
[07:20] <Daemonic> wtf?
[07:20] <FloodBot4> Daemonic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <DeM0nFiRe> Really?
[07:20] <DeM0nFiRe> 3 lines is flodding?
[07:20] <Daemonic> apparently so
[07:20] <bazhang> DeM0nFiRe, watch the language please
[07:20] <theadmin> DeM0nFiRe: It's a stupid bot and it's lagging sometimes
[07:20] <DeM0nFiRe> bazhang: what?
[07:21] <theadmin> DeM0nFiRe: He reffers to "wtf" you used
[07:21] <DeM0nFiRe> I didn't
[07:21] <hunahpu> DeM0nFiRe: some people actually don't like the "wtf" acronym :p
[07:21] <DeM0nFiRe> I didn't use wtf lol
[07:21] <theadmin> DeM0nFiRe: Oops it was Daemonic
[07:21] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: go here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[07:21] <hunahpu> DeM0nFiRe: it was Daemonic... similar names, excuse the person who said it :p
[07:21] <Daemonic> hmm
[07:22] <hunahpu> and me of course
[07:22] <Daemonic> this is another wtf moment
[07:22] <bazhang> DeM0nFiRe, my apologies, mistabbed
[07:22] <DeM0nFiRe> lol
[07:22] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: towards the bottom you will see `download plugin for Linux (TAR.GZ)`
[07:22] <DeM0nFiRe> Anyway
[07:22] <Guest1492> exit
[07:22] <Sinister> i just changed my mouse both cordless but now when i highlight it dont paste when i press the wheel anyone know why ?
[07:22] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: I think the catalys 9.10 drivers work with ubuntu 9.10
[07:22] <hunahpu> I actually remember an admin on other server banning someone for saying "ftw", the admin thought it was a way to circumvent the "wtf" rule...
[07:22] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: the drivers installed fine. I just can't figure out why they're not operating as expected.
[07:22] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, but it was working before :(
[07:22] <DeM0nFiRe> I am not sure because I haven't tried the, but I;ve seen good reviews
[07:23] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, you really think i need to compile it? :(
[07:23] <Daemonic> for the wine?
[07:23] <Daemonic> win*
[07:23] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: Idk then, it is not compiling it...
[07:23] <frankie_> i think i have a 64 bit computer should i install 64 bit or 32 bit versions? i only have 4gbs of ram so is it nesscessary to use 64 bit one?
[07:23] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: I think you also have to disable some other stuff because Linux by default tries to manage some settings
[07:23] <DeM0nFiRe> Not positive though
[07:23] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: The version from the link given, that is the only thing I use and have never had flash problems.
[07:23] <hiexpo> frankie_,  - i suggest 32 bit
[07:23] <hunahpu> Daemonic: yes, the admin clearly didn't know, all in the room told him but he wouldn't listen, was a very... kinda-funny moment
[07:23] <Daemonic> sure its only a 4670 but it has a gig of ram and works good in windows.
[07:23] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, kk, i'll give it a try
[07:24] <theadmin> hunahpu: That's not funny, it's sad. Very sad.
[07:24] <Daemonic> just isn't for crap in X
[07:24] <hunahpu> Daemonic: that's how I learned it's better to use plain-straight english; theadmin actually kinda lame too
[07:24] <laymansnerd> i was wondering how to mount and start a raid array that i created using palimpset in fedora through terminal
[07:24] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: can I ask why you need high performance in linux?
[07:24] <DeM0nFiRe> For video drivers?
[07:24] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: You will have to remove your old one. The old one might be in Synaptic Package Manager, or it will be in /home/<username>/.mozilla/plugins
[07:25] <laymansnerd> i tried mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 and it returned with "mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md0"
[07:25] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: The name of the file is libflashplayer.so, that is what you are downloading, remove the old one and put the new in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[07:25] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: because less than 30fps with this card in OGL is unacceptable?
[07:25] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, awesome! here I was thinking I needed to compile it or something
[07:25] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: Na, lol. Definitely not :)
[07:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: But why not use Windows for games instead? WHy not dual boot?
[07:26] <deserteagle> yeh, it's not like Adobe would ever release their code, either
[07:26] <DeM0nFiRe> Just curious
[07:26] <crucialhoax> deserteagle: HTML5 ftw
[07:26] <frankie_> i find http://www.getgnulinux.org/ very informative thank you
[07:26] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: I don't like windows...but I dislike non-working hardware too
[07:27] <Daemonic> nvidia cards work fine. ATI's should too.. stupid AMD/ATI and their crap drivers.
[07:27] <hunahpu> Daemonic: sadly ATI's Linux support is not very good, you won't get the same performance in certain tasks (like open gl) as in windows; if you are hardcore gamming person, you probably want to dual boot w/windows
[07:27] <DeM0nFiRe> Well, lately that appears to be the one thing NVidia has going for them, linux support XD
[07:28] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: I asked because I am trying to decide fi I should make my engine work in Linux
[07:28] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe:  the one good thing? you mean other than nvidia cards kicking ati cards's ass?
[07:28] <hunahpu> Honestly I regret having bought this ATI card I'm using (is a 9600) is not THAT old and it's already unsupported by ATI
[07:28] <crucialhoax> which is an amazing thing. more and more games are being played with Linux and working drivers make it pretty :)
[07:29] <psypher246> FYI if anyone has any issues with connecting evolution to exchange 2007 install evolution-mapi and create a new account using that as your mailbox type, cannot use owa anymore
[07:29] <Daemonic> well, I'm trying to run a four year old game in wine and I'm getting less than 20 fps.. which is unacceptable.. I can enable my motherboards onboard CRAP 7100 nvidia and play the same game with better fps. which brings it all back to ati drivers sucking ballsack.
[07:29] <crucialhoax> hunahpu: I am pretty sure I have the same card and ATi does not support it in Win7 either, I did not know they fully dropped it...
[07:29] <jnuetron> HI
[07:29] <DeM0nFiRe> Daemonic: ATI cards are faster than all of NVidia cards except for their 2 newest, which are at the price point of the 5970, which is better than either
[07:30] <DeM0nFiRe> ATI's been quite solidly on top for the last 2 generations, at least in the mainstream gaming market, which is what the target is, of course
[07:30] <hunahpu> crucialhoax: I know, it's sad, a lot of cards are no longer supported :(
[07:30] <Daemonic> DeM0nFiRe: so you're an ATI fanboy? I prefer hardware that just /works/. nvidia in my experience are just /better/.  You'll get better results that way.
[07:32] <crucialhoax> hah
[07:32] <hexdump_> jnuetron just use /msg nick
[07:32] <hexdump_> or isn't it /privmsg nick ?
[07:32] <frankie_> is there a website for finding if my windwos programs work on linux when i switch? foobar and utorrent ?
[07:33] <crucialhoax> frankie_: utorrent will run in wine.
[07:33] <hexdump_> either way
[07:33] <Daemonic> /msg <nickname> <message>
[07:33] <igoryonya> hello, what's the program in ubuntu to defragment?
[07:33] <crucialhoax> frankie_: Deluge or Vuze are nice uTorrent replacements.
[07:33] <crucialhoax> igoryonya: Ubuntu does not need to be defragged.
[07:33] <hunahpu> frankie_: most programs won't run the same way; it's far better to use their analog linux applications; like openoffice.org instead of MS Office; if games is what concerns you, they don't run as fast as in windows, there are emulators like Wine that will allow you to run -some- win apps.
[07:34] <igoryonya> crucialhoax: well, that may be, but I need to defragment my flash drive.
[07:34] <hunahpu> igoryonya: Native Linux filesystems don't need to be defragged (ext3, xfs, ext4, etc...)
[07:34] <crucialhoax> igoryonya: Need to be more specific then.
[07:34] <shazbotmcnasty> how do I show the name of my ethernet card?
[07:35] <shazbotmcnasty> cat /proc/???
[07:35] <hunahpu> shazbotmcnasty: cat /proc may work but also "lspci" may work
[07:35] <frankie_> i dont plan on playing games. i have another computer with windows, so i am just goign to use my laptop to get my toes wet so to speak
[07:35] <igoryonya> hunahpu, I didn't know that they didn't need to be defragged
[07:35] <DeM0nFiRe> Anywya, I gotta go
[07:35] <tripelb> Daemonic, nothing is motorola (after that ROKR phone I am done with them) mneptok yes PC'ed it. as I said. -- Daemonic but it gives an ip fine any time to this computer (I call it #2) but not to #3 or #1. Huh?
[07:35] <DeM0nFiRe> Later guys
[07:35] <genii> shazbotmcnasty: The manufacturers name, or the device name which it gets assigned?
[07:35] <shazbotmcnasty> both hopefully
[07:36] <hexdump_> shazbotmcnasty:  you could do lspci
[07:36] <igoryonya> crucialhoax, hunahpu, ok, to be more specific, I have a fat32 usb flash drive that I need to defrag.
[07:36] <hunahpu> igoryonya: yes, they are quite efficient, read about it in wikipedia, the english article is quite good; as for your flash drive, I'm not sure if there is a defragger for vfat
[07:36] <hexdump_> shazbotmcnasty:   or if it's a usb lsusb
[07:36] <Daemonic> tripelb: no idea then. sorry.
[07:36] <shazbotmcnasty> it's not, it's onboard
[07:36] <tripelb> mneptok, Daemonic I think it is time to sleep and restart another day. Thanks for playing.
[07:36] <alabd> how to make php.ini file changes takes affect ?
[07:36] <tripelb> lol
[07:36] <frankie_> my main programs are thunderbird, firefox, foobar, utorrent, office.. deluge from appearnce looks good replacement for utorrent and i am familiar with openoffice :)
[07:37] <Fiend> hi, I have a problem with Ubutu, is there someone here that can help me with some technical support?
[07:37] <hunahpu> shazbotmcnasty: "lspci | grep net" should work
[07:37] <hexdump_> shazbotmcnasty:  well try lspci
[07:37] <hunahpu> !ask | Fiend
[07:37] <igoryonya> does anybody know, what's the difference between ext3 and ext4?
[07:37] <genii> shazbotmcnasty: For all info on them: sudo lshw -C network
[07:38] <hexdump_> or what huanahpu said pretty much to narrow it
[07:38] <hunahpu> igoryonya: the main difference is ext4 can handle far larger files and larger hard drives
[07:38] <psypher246> ah man this is frustrating, now i don't have gal access anymore in evolution, please can some help, aparently the owa plugin for evolution i supposed to work with exchange 2007
[07:38] <psypher246> and the mapi plugin is still unstable and does not support gal or calendar
[07:38] <psypher246> <aaarg
[07:39] <igoryonya> what about crashing, is ext4 a more crashprone then ext3, or they don't differ in that way. For example, I know that ntfs is more crashprone then fat32.
[07:39] <Fiend> I'm having problem with Ubuntu on my laptop pc. The problem is that it's overheating after some random time (like starting with 15 min ) and the coolers don't seem to work. Does ubuntu have problem with coolers on various hardware?
[07:39] <Fiend> The area around the touchpad seems to be overheating more than other parts of it
[07:40] <hunahpu> igoryonya: ext4 offers better performance, is overall better than ext3, both speed and stability wise
[07:41] <hunahpu> igoryonya: if stability is your top priority, xfs is a better filesystem.
[07:41] <Fiend> anybody have any clue about the laptops overheating problem?
[07:41] <hunahpu> Fiend: you didn't have this heating problem before?
[07:42] <Fiend> well, I haven't tries ubuntu until 9.10, so I can't tell you about that
[07:42] <hunahpu> Fiend: does this happen with other OS's?
[07:43] <Fiend> well, it doesn't happen on windows 7 and it appears that the coolers start working during windows 7 usage, but the overall temperature is lower
[07:43] <Fiend> the area around the touchpad isn't that hot, compared to ubuntu
[07:43] <deserteagle> crucialhoax, still nothing :(
[07:43] <LSD|Ninja> Fiend: what sort of laptop is it?
[07:44] <Fiend> sec, I'll send you a link with the specs in a few
[07:44] <cfedde> Fiend: can you tell if the fans are running at all?
[07:44] <S4aD> hey
[07:45] <igoryonya> the reason, I am asking, is because, I've read that ubuntu 9.10 officially moved to ext4 from ext3, but in the description, it says that upgraded systems to 9.10 will be converted to ext4, and newly installed systems will be installed, using ext4, but an upgraded ext4 will not take advantage of ext4 features and not work as efficiently as newly installed 9.10. I don't get it. How is it going...
[07:45] <igoryonya> ...to be converted to ext4, yet not take ext4's advantage.
[07:45] <cfedde> igoryonya: it's not.
[07:45] <cfedde> igoryonya: upgraded systems will continure to use ext3
[07:45] <igoryonya> cfedde: it's not what?
[07:45] <cfedde> continue even.
[07:46] <igoryonya> cfedde: so I misunderstood what was written and only newly installed will be ext4?
[07:46] <cfedde> igoryonya: the upgrade to 9.10 does not change the filesystem that is used.
[07:47] <cfedde> igoryonya: exactly.  only new installs will use ext4 by default.
[07:47] <hunahpu> igoryonya: I have no idea how a filesystem can be 'upgraded' that way ??? it should keep your original filesystem
[07:47] <Fiend> http://www.notebooksarok.hu/notebook/toshiba/satellite-a300-1n0/1728 this isn't in english, but you get the general ideea
[07:47] <bluebird> hi there
[07:47] <conex> hello
[07:47] <conex> hola
[07:47] <hunahpu> igoryonya: when you make a new fresh install you can choose what filesystem to use; bye default it will use ext4, but you can use whatever you want
[07:47] <bluebird> any body know this bug - pam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]
[07:48] <bluebird> ?
[07:48] <hunahpu> bluebird: it means you typed the wrong password
[07:48] <jnuetron> HELLO
[07:48] <bluebird> but password is correct
[07:48] <hunahpu> bluebird: the user may be incorrect then
[07:48] <bluebird> policykit is broken
[07:49] <Fiend>  cfedde : the fans don't seem to be running after ubuntu starts
[07:49] <igoryonya> hunahpu: different partitioning programs are able to convert partitions and windows xp, for example, offers to convert a fat/fat32 partitions to ntfs, while upgrading, so I didn't even have a back thought that linix cannot do that.
[07:49] <Fiend> http://www.notebooksarok.hu/notebook/toshiba/satellite-a300-1n0/1728 this isn't in english, but you get the general ideea
[07:49] <bluebird> when i use sudo or gksudo this password works fine
[07:50] <hunahpu> igoryonya: "upgrading" is not accurate; what you (and probably that software does) do is dump (create an image) a filesystem, back it up somewhere else, format the partition to another filesystem and then write the image to the new filesystem
[07:50] <jnuetron> HI
[07:50] <Someguy77> is Beryl just a Compiz alternative?
[07:50] <jnuetron> HI
[07:50] <kolla> please... how do I get rid of those darn tamtam-drums whenever firefox pops up a requester!
[07:50] <jnuetron> HK
[07:50] <MegaTrousers> New Ubuntu game in the works. "Cerebral" science fiction oriented. Website: https://www.avaneya.com
[07:50] <hunahpu> Someguy77: Beryl is now integrated with compiz and fuzion
[07:51] <igoryonya> hunahpu: so, you are suggesting, that I choose xfs, skipping ext[x] completley when I install, if I want a filesystem crash stability?
[07:51] <Someguy77> and metacity integrated with gnome?
[07:51] <Someguy77> I mean GTK
[07:51] <cfedde> Fiend: here are some google hits that look interesting: http://www.symbiosoft.net/?q=node/66
[07:52] <Jordan_U> igoryonya: Actually upgrading from ext2 to 3 and 3 to 4, and even extn to btrfs (a *completely* different filesystem) can all be done in place.
[07:52] <hunahpu> igoryonya: xfs is (in my opinion) the most stable filesystem out there, but this doesn't mean is the right one for you, it's slower than ext4 and not entirely recommended with GRUB loader (use of LiLO is recommended)
[07:52] <igoryonya> hunahpu: you are probably wright, I just didn't know the internal workings of it, and you've explained it :)
[07:53] <lnostdal> 2010: boot partition is full ..   didn't debra and/or ian figure out some way to automate this stuff around 1994?
[07:53] <cfedde> Fiend: and another maybe more usefull link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/321578
[07:53] <kolla> nobony knows? those drums are driving me nuts
[07:53] <hunahpu> kolla: somewhere in sound preferences should have the option; I usually just kill all those sounds
[07:53] <bluebird> any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter correct su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[07:54] <jnuetron> SS
[07:55] <theadmin> I assume our repositories have Kompozer?
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> theadmin: yes
[07:56] <theadmin> tonyyarusso: ty, found it :D
[07:56] <theadmin> all those -data packages are confusing XD
[07:56] <Jordan_U> hunahpu: grub2 works fine with xfs btw, the xfs problems were only with old versions of grub legacy.
[07:56] <Shafiei> how to config pptp in text mode?
[07:57] <hunahpu> Jordan_U: hey, great to know :) thanks
[07:57] <theadmin> Shafiei: pptpsetup
[07:57] <Jordan_U> hunahpu: You're welcome.
[07:57] <theadmin> Never managed to get it working right with that though, but it's the right tool AFAIAA
[07:58] <Fiend> thanks cfedde, I'll take a look and let you know how it turns up
[07:59] <cfedde> Fiend: another link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333321
[07:59] <Fiend> by the way, is Lucid going to get any type of ati 3d drivers at launch?
[07:59] <theadmin> are sites like ubuntu.jp, ubuntu.fi, ubuntu.ru official?
[07:59] <kolla> hunahpu: I thought I did that... I'm running kde for the most part, this is the gnome settings somewhere I presume
[07:59] <igoryonya> hunahpu: I see, I just lately started getting (on boot) when the filesystem is checked during boot, it stops the check at a certain point and says that it cannot fsck automatically and I should do it manually, I do it manually and answer yes everywhere, but after boot, I would like to launch the fsck again, but it warns that doing fsck on a mounted system can damage data, but I can't figure...
[07:59] <theadmin> ubottu: 10.04 | Fiend (Sorry, i know only 8 days left :/)
[07:59] <igoryonya> ...out how to do it on unmounted system
[07:59] <hunahpu> Fiend: the open ATI driver is not that bad, it works fine for regular use
[07:59] <Someguy77> does lucid have out of the box full Nvidia Geforce 3d support?
[07:59] <bluebird> sorry for repeating -  any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter correct su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - pam_unix(polkit:auth): conversation failed  authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[08:00] <theadmin> Someguy77: ^^\
[08:00] <hiexpo> !lucid
[08:00] <Fiend> hunahpu: TBH I don't really need the 3d drivers, I just want to run movies and virtual box in a normal fashion
[08:00] <Fiend> sorry about the caps
[08:00] <igoryonya> Jordan_U: so there is a command that will allow me to convert a filesystem, or do I have to separately install a certain package to do it and can you suggest any?
[08:00] <Fiend> I need virtual box for iTunes usage
[08:00] <hunahpu> igoryonya: well if you are still talking about your usb flash drive, just unmount it, if is your actual hard drive use the LiveCD to check the filesystem :)
[08:01] <Fiend> cfedde: last link is for nvidia
[08:01] <hunahpu> kolla: yes, it is on gnome, sound options; you can hack it though broswe /usr/share/ until you find the ubuntu sounds and rename them
[08:01] <theadmin> rofl kompozer made shortcuts in "Programming" AND in "Internet" :/
[08:02] <cfedde> Fiend: oops.  :-\
[08:02] <AbuMaia> can someone tell me the terminal command to use to determine the input hardware of my system?  I need to identify the trackpad in particular
[08:02] <kolla> hunahpu: ok :)
[08:02] <theadmin> AbuMaia: lspci | less - try this
[08:02] <cfedde> Fiend: this is interesting though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420247
[08:02] <AbuMaia> ty
[08:02] <hunahpu> Fiend: the open drivers work fine, I'm using them and compiz works fine, I can play movies, etc... if the proprietary driver is available, go for it though, they do work better and should be available in Lucid (except the driver for old ati cards)
[08:02] <Jordan_U> igoryonya: Unfortunately currently you can only in place convert from one ext version to a later one and then to btrfs. For converting to xfs you have to make a copy like hunahpu explained.
[08:03] <igoryonya> hunahpu: no, my main filesystem "/" is having a such problem, that I need to check and fix, but I couldn't find any info on how to check and fix unmounted "/" system, my usb I only need to defrag.
[08:03] <Fiend> hunahpu: last time I tried the ati official drivers, I ended up with a broken X
[08:03] <Fiend> just a black screen, after restart
[08:04] <hunahpu> igoryonya: using the LiveCD is the easier way to do it.
[08:04] <kolla> hunahpu: looking in gnome-control-center -> sound preferences, I have picked "No sounds" as theme
[08:04] <igoryonya> Jordan_U: can you suggest a command that I can use to convert one ext version to an other?
[08:04] <kolla> maybe the settings are in firefox itself
[08:04] <hunahpu> kolla: that's posible
[08:05] <igoryonya> hunahpu: so you are saying to use disk checking utilities from the cd booting?
[08:05] <kolla> hunahpu: thanks anyways :)
[08:06] <hunahpu> igoryonya: from the Live session actually
[08:06] <Jordan_U> igoryonya: You basically just mount it as the newer version. So to convert from ext3 to ext4 you just mount /dev/sdXX -t ext4 and any data from then on will use ext4 features.
[08:07] <Fiend>  hunahpu: any ideea is this fan issue is going to be happening on 10.04?
[08:07] <Fiend> I mean, I was thinking that maybe this issue might not occurs anymore in 10.04..here's hoping
[08:08] <Fiend> seing as 10.04 is LTS
[08:08] <igoryonya> Jordan_U: ok, thanx
[08:08] <Jordan_U> igoryonya: You're welcome.
[08:08] <hunahpu> Fiend: I have no idea, actually I'm not completely sure it is an actual 'issue'; I lost track of your thread for a while here, but if it is indeed an issue you may want to bug-report it
[08:10] <Fiend> hunahpu: cool, thanks man, I'll keep that in mind (still hoping that 10.04 will solve the problem by default though :) )
[08:10] <Fiend> As I've read in the links above, the problems seems to be with Toshiba laptops, in general
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:11] <cfedde> Fiend: you saw this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420247
[08:11] <cfedde> apt-cache search toshset
[08:11] <cfedde> toshset - Access much of the Toshiba laptop hardware interface
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> !info toshset
[08:13] <Fiend> niice!
[08:14] <mickster04> how do i get remaining freespace on ubuntu thru terminal?
[08:15] <mickster04> hdd
[08:15] <Guest29090> mickster04: df
[08:15] <cfedde> mickster04: df -h maybe?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Mickster04: df -h
[08:15] <mickster04> cheers:D
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Mickster04: you may want to turn off your bot so it doesn't spam the channel like that
[08:16] <bluebird> sorry for repeating -  does any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter CORRECT su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - pam_unix(polkit:auth): conversation failed  authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[08:16] <mickster04> ActionParsnip: ?
[08:17] <mickster04> ActionParsnip: what spamming, i didnt see owt?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Mickster04: you seemed to autoreply with something about being asleep at uni...
[08:17] <mickster04> ActionParsnip: ooo, sorry, i had my away message set:/
[08:17] <mickster04> am off now anyways:D
[08:17] <mickster04> bbl:D
[08:17] <cfedde> cheers
[08:20] <Ven]n> Ive disabled the keyring manager, but when booting I get the popup "Authentication required by wireless network" where the password field is already filled in. How can I make it automatically connect instead of showing me that popup for me to click Connect?
[08:22] <Shafiei> ive registered in a room, i used to send IMs into it, but now i cannot
[08:22] <joaopinto> Ven]n, the gnome keyring can't be disabled, you can prevent it from asking the master password by setting it to the login password value
[08:22] <Shafiei> how can i use it again?
[08:22] <joaopinto> assuming you don't use autologin
[08:22] <LordV> how can I adjust my inputrc so that Alt-A sends Meta-A and not A' with an accent?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Joaopinto: or having no password (not advisable)
[08:23] <cbilljones> i have a strange issue, zotac board, nvidia ion chipset; 52' aquos TV kept losing signal, oddly worked flawlessly in XMBC, user just phoned me, seems to have fixed issue by setting icon size in nautiles to 50%, im rather confused but it seems to have fixed it; make any sense to anyone?
[08:23] <hunahpu> Shafiei: many irc channels have this "voice" option, maybe an admin took it from you
[08:23] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, can you set gnome keyring to not have a password :) ?
[08:23] <Shafiei> hunahpu: no theres nothing named voice in it
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Joaopinto: yes and it'l say its a bad idea but it can be set as nothing
[08:24] <Shafiei> hunahpu: its just registeration stuff
[08:24] <joaopinto> hum, let me test
[08:24] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: i was talking to you earlier, did you see my post?
[08:24] <Shafiei> hunahpu: ive registered in it, and i guess i have to log in it in order to use
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Cbilijones: yeah, weird
[08:25] <jdmulti> hello :D
[08:25] <hunahpu> Shafiei: if it is in freenode.org, type "/msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>"
[08:25] <muffin2> Hello
[08:25] <Exposure548> morning everybody
[08:25] <cbilljones> actionparsnip: ya, oddly it did seem to be nautlis that gave me issues, ill have to go over tomorrow and try to figure out why his work around is working :|
[08:26] <theadmin> freenode.org? isn't it freenode.net?
[08:26] <theadmin> hunahpu: ^
[08:26] <Exposure548> theadmin: it is freenode.net :)
[08:26] <Ven]n> joakim, im using autologin and set master password to blank so it wont pop up
[08:26] <Shafiei> hunahpu: um! i did but something like this appeared: >NickServ< id pass
[08:27] <hunahpu> theadmin: is it? I usually type .org? now I'm confused
[08:27] <theadmin> hunahpu: Well dunno %)
[08:27] <Exposure548> hunahpu: ok maybe they have all tld domains as aliases :)
[08:28] <theadmin> Long live tab autocompletion! If not the people with long and weird nicks, we'd probably not have it.
[08:28] <Shafiei> hunahpu: i mean i still cant send IMs in the room
[08:28] <hunahpu> Exposure548: they have!
[08:28] <Exposure548> i've got a question, what livecd iso image will boot on macbook pro?
[08:28] <igoryonya> how do I make an alias permanenet between reboots.
[08:28] <igoryonya> I do: alias -p command='definition'
[08:28] <igoryonya> It works until I reboot, after I reboot that alias doesn't work any more.
[08:29] <Exposure548> hunahpu: ok, good to know ;-)
[08:29] <roccity_> Exposure548, isn't that using the intel chip?
[08:29] <theadmin> Exposure548: Yeah, freenode.org redirects to freenode.net and... and... O_O what the? CANONICAL LOGO? O_O
[08:29] <Exposure548> roccity_: yes core2duo but no BIOS, they have EFI
[08:29] <Shafiei> hunahpu: no idea?
[08:29] <jdmulti> quick question: I got a windows pc which doesn't start windows7, but I want to acces some really important documents.
[08:29] <Exposure548> roccity_: i tried the latest beta2 of ubuntu and it didn't boot at all
[08:29] <jdmulti> can I just use the live cd, get the document and put on usb to load on a windows machine?
[08:30] <theadmin> jdmulti: How is that even remotely related to Ubuntu? You can use the livecd allright
[08:30] <hunahpu> Shafiei: each channel have their own policies; what I told you is the standard method to identify (log in), you may want to contact the channel admins
[08:30] <roccity_> Exposure548, 64 bit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[08:30] <jdmulti> theadmin: yeah I know, but my GF doesn't know much about pc and is on the otherside of the world
[08:30] <jdmulti> she knows how to burn a cd
[08:30] <diggy> does somebody know is the feisty(7.04) repo's still available somewhere?
[08:30] <Exposure548> roccity_: ok will check that, thanks!
[08:31] <jdmulti> so she can just use the live cd and get some files on usb to load on another OS ?
[08:31] <jdmulti> os are the files put on the usb in the linux file system stuff?
[08:31] <roccity_> Exposure548, has list of macbookpro 1.1 to 5.5
[08:31] <LSD|Ninja> Just watch out, you run the risk of cooking Intel Macs by running Linux on them due to porr support for SMC vcore control
[08:31] <hunahpu> jdmulti: yes they can do that and it will work; they will be in (most likely) vfat filesystem while in the usb flash memory and then written back to ntfs or whatever win7 uses
[08:32] <Exposure548> roccity_: thanks! i have 5,1 and i hope this is for livecd as well, i don't want to remove snow leopard :)
[08:32] <roccity_> LSD|Ninja, is the intels in those so different from a pc one?
[08:32] <jdmulti> hunahpu: thanks, just wanted to know that for sure
[08:32] <hatem_> HI
[08:33] <jdmulti> I love ubuntu tbh, used it normally for my opensource stuff ;)
[08:33] <jdmulti> but awesome to use as receovery easely then ;)
[08:34] <igoryonya> I do: alias -p command='definition'
[08:34] <igoryonya> It works until I reboot, after I reboot that alias doesn't work any more. how do I make an alias permanenet between reboots?
[08:34] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: I would expect that they would at least shut off before the hadware was damaged, right?
[08:34] <LSD|Ninja> roccity_: The power management control is, yes. Intel Macs use a chip called teh SMC (System Management Controller or something iirc) to manage that sort of stuff. There's rudimentary support for it in Linux, but not for controlling the CPU vcore leading to the machines running too high a vcore for too long and ultimately dying due to accelerated electromigration
[08:34] <geirha> igoryonya: Put it in ~/.bashrc
[08:35] <geirha> igoryonya: Though, without the -p
[08:35] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: I'm sure there are safeguards for it in OS X (and even Windows, for the most part, using Apples driver in the Boot Camp kits), but to the best of my knowledge, it's still not fully supported in Linux
[08:36] <theadmin> What's a VPS? (sorry i know it's quite offtopic, but dunno where to ask)
[08:36] <igoryonya> geirha: ok, do you know what -p switch is for in alias command?, since I didn't find any description in alias --help and man alias, just an example alias -p etc='etc'
[08:36] <theadmin> igoryonya: What's the point in aliasing something to itself?
[08:36] <geirha> igoryonya: alias is a builtin command, so ''help alias''
[08:37] <hunahpu> theadmin: virtual private server?
[08:37] <theadmin> hunahpu: Seems to be it :D Thanks
[08:37] <kraut> what's the release date of ubuntu 10.04?
[08:37] <igoryonya> geirha: what do you mean?
[08:37] <theadmin> kraut: in 8 days, that is 29th april
[08:37] <kraut> thanks
[08:38] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: I haven't used my intel mac since the early days to mac support but at first there wasn't even fan controll *but* the firmware still controlled the fans properly itself and you could for instance use smcfancontroll in OSX to raise the fan speed to make your "notebooK" into a non steralizing "laptop" then reboot and since it was a firmware option it would stick in linux.
[08:38] <geirha> igoryonya: If it's a builtin command, there's no man-page for it, you can use bash's help command to get some info about it, and you'll also find it in   man bash
[08:38] <Ven]n> meh.. i want to post a helping post on ubuntuforums.org but I dont want to sign up for an account
[08:38] <theadmin> Somehow, I'm not as crazy about Lucid as I were about Karmic. I was *literally* jumping around my room when it was released, and before the release I kept checking stuff... but now, after I see what they did in Karmic... meh. I dunno.
[08:39] <Ven]n> anyone with an account wanna do a post for me?
[08:39] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: It's not the fans, that are the issue. It's the control of voltage to the CPU. As CPU load goes up, the vcore is supposed to be dropped offsetting the heat output. The problem is that thge system that does that only works properly under OS X.
[08:39] <hunahpu> Ven]n: why not? it's free, easy and will take less time that it's taking you to type all this
[08:39] <cbilljones> ven]n: only takes a min to make acct :|
[08:39] <Ven]n> cause I wont be using it later
[08:39] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: Even with the fans going full tilt, the CPU is still being overvolted and eventually dies
[08:40] <theadmin> Say, can i use /etc/hosts to redirect something not to only a specific IP, but also to a specific port?
[08:40] <hunahpu> Ven]n: you never know... and even if you don't, it won't hurt you.
[08:40] <Ven]n> and it needs a valid email
[08:40] <theadmin> Ven]n: You don't have an email? o_O
[08:41] <igoryonya> geirha: ye, you are right, I've all I've found was in alias --help, I didn't even realize that I could use help alias, I did try man alias and it didn't return anything, thanx
[08:41] <Ven]n> sure I do :)
[08:41] <Ven]n> but Im reluctant to spread it to every site available
[08:41] <igoryonya> geirha: I mean before you guys told me about help alias
[08:41] <theadmin> Ven]n: If you're afraid of spam, use spambox.us to generate a temporary redirective email