[13:45] <jalusava>  can someone help me switch from linux mint BACK toy Ubuntu please? I don't want to loose my files? Any suggestions would be great!
[13:46] <mrrcp> kostkon: how do i remove the repo for 4.1!
[13:46] <mrrcp> and get 3.5.7 back
[13:46] <kostkon> !ppa-purge | mrrcp, use this:
[13:47] <kostkon> mrrcp, did you use the ppa or downloaded the deb from the libreoffice site?
[13:47] <mrrcp> ppa
[13:47] <kostkon> ok
[13:49] <deibuji> hello. does anyone have any experience with using the cloud init tools? I'm trying to setup a vm on a kvm host and i'm trying to use the meta data to setup the vm's networking. anytime i include the meta data into the seed image, the vm cannot establish a network connection.
[13:52] <axelm7> DJones, thanks
[13:52] <axelm7> now I just need to find the right ISO
[13:52] <jalusava>  can someone help me switch from linux mint BACK toy Ubuntu please? I don't want to loose my files? Any suggestions would be great!
[13:52] <DJones> axelm7: You're welcome
[13:52] <UrielVigilante> Good afternoon, how to install bcm 4311 on ubuntu 13.04 . I already tryed the software sources , and add aditioanl drivers - STa .... , but it dont work. Can any one help me ?
[13:54] <loa> hello, i am trying to switch off icons on desktop using this command gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false
[13:54] <scottj> What program will easily allow me to display my webcam in a window on my screen?
[13:54] <loa> icons dissapear yes, but after that all going unstable and unity halt
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> scottj: cheese
[13:55] <jhutchins> scottj: cheese
[13:55] <loa> for example when trying ti minimize application which cover desktop i recieve freez
[13:55] <scottj> ActionParsnip: jhutchins: thanks
[14:00] <mrrcp> kostkon:
[14:00] <mrrcp> kostkon: i removed the ppa
[14:00] <UrielVigilante> Good afternoon, how to install bcm 4311 on ubuntu 13.04 . I already tryed the software sources , and add aditioanl drivers - STa .... , but it dont work. Can any one help me ?  Could be a solution, remove bcmwl-kernel-source on terminal, then try install again trought software source-add sta driver, and then tye command on terminal to chek if it is on blacklist and if it is , edit and change...
[14:00] <UrielVigilante> ... and reboot ?
[14:00] <mrrcp> but now it will not install
[14:06] <Ejemy> I tried installing ubuntu from a usb pendrive to my wd passport external hard drive and there was an error at the end, something about grub not successfully installing. Well, now my computer won't recognize the external hard drive so I can't format it and try again. Whats going on?
[14:07] <bkfitz> Anyone know how to get a usb tv-tuner working with ubuntu?
[14:08] <bkfitz> I have a haupauge wintv aero-m
[14:08] <bkfitz> downloaded tvtime but no dice
[14:08] <bkfitz> 'frames too short from uvcvideo'
[14:09] <SamSagaZ> hey guys is possible to know in some website the versions of the pkg that have ubuntu?
[14:10] <SamSagaZ> pkg version are the same as debian distro?
[14:13] <rkrishna> Hi, I am trying to install a video card, and I see this "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at<PHONE_NUMBER>7d4300" error in the kernel.log. Any Ideas?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> rkrishna: have you tested RAM from Memtest86+ in Grub?
[14:15] <Rory> What Ubuntu version are you using, rkrishna ?
[14:18] <rkrishna> ActionParsnip: Yaa, the mem test is all done and  I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS as recommended by the card vendor.
[14:18] <rkrishna> Rory: I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS as recommended by the card vendor.
[14:19] <Rory> rkrishna That version is no longer supported on the desktop, have you tried a more up-to-date edition?
[14:23] <DJ_Unibob> 13.04 has been running pretty stable for me so far. :)
[14:23] <rkrishna> The driver would not compile in any of the other Ubuntu versions, the card vendor says its certified on 10.04
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> rkrishna: is this for server or desktop?
[14:24] <rkrishna> I was just wondering if it is related to some kernel memory configuration we can change
[14:24] <rkrishna> its no a server
[14:24] <rkrishna> **its for a DVR server
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> rkrishna: there are no desktop package updates for Lucid, nor is it supported by the community in any way
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> rkrishna: it is only supported in server in CLI
[14:25] <bluedarma> halo
[14:25] <rkrishna> Right, its server version of Ubuntu
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> rkrishna: i thought you said it was "no a server"?
[14:26] <rkrishna> :) sorry it was a typo...."its on a server"
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> rkrishna: i see
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> rkrishna: then it will be supported
[14:33] <UrielVigilante> I created a root password for first time on my ubuntu 13.04, and now its says that is not my password. how can i recover it ?
[14:33] <Rory> !root | UrielVigilante
[14:33] <UrielVigilante> Iam in usb peristent mode
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilante: can you log in at root recovery console?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilante: you can chroot to the installed OS and set the password there to
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> too*
[14:34] <SuperLag> I'm confused as to why the menus for Terminal don't show up in the menu bar, in Unity. All I see are the window controls. What gives?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:35] <UrielVigilante> iam newby, my terminal appear like this : ubuntu@ubuntu
[14:35] <MrQuist> SuperLag, its probably in the upper left corner of unity
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilante: thats fine and normal
[14:35] <MrQuist> OSX style
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> MrQuist: hardly
[14:35] <SuperLag> *sigh*
[14:35] <SuperLag> Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) \n \l
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: then your support is in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[14:35] <UrielVigilante> but when i tested it , it says my password is wrong !
[14:35] <Rory> SuperLag: You know that.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilante: why set it in the first place?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilante: what were you hoping to gain exactly?
[14:36] <UrielVigilante> i write .. reboot and it says now i dont have engouht privelges to do it , for example
[14:36] <theJeremy> Raring running VirtualBox guest with NAT networking: guest can only intermittently ping default gateway. I can't find anyone else on the interwebs complaining about this. What gives? How do I troubleshoot this?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilante: sudo reboot      job done
[14:37] <NoiseEee> so my ubuntu's "Update Manager" just stopped when "Configuring linux-headers-3.2.0-54-generic".  Computer is fine, depmod has been at 100% CPU for about 20 minutes now, process is clearly hung.  Will I be able to reboot successfully?
[14:38] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I change my hostname without rebooting? I edited /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname and ran /etc/init.d/hostname restart but the hostname doesn't change
[14:38] <SunTsu> JoeyJoeJo: use "hostname <hostname>"
[14:38] <theJeremy> NoiseEee: use the grub menu to select previous version if you have problems booting, then retry the update.
[14:38] <NoiseEee> thanks theJeremy
[14:39] <SunTsu> without the quotation marks and replace the tag with the real hostname, of course
[14:40] <JoeyJoeJo> SunTsu: No luck. It didn't give me any errors but the hostname is still the same
[14:40] <whoever> hava a question about making distilled water: since the collected wattr is distilled can't you achieve distilled water by placing a bowl in a pot of water with the lid on , let the water boile and the steam that drains down off of the lid distilled or do i have to make the cold barrier to get distilled water
[14:41] <SunTsu> JoeyJoeJo: it is not. Your prompt doesn't change dynamically. run hostnae without an argument or/and run a new shell
[14:41] <theJeremy> whoever: Are you using Ubuntu Linux to distill water?
[14:41] <linuxearth> is there any website in which can i annominously surf the website, i mean to surf any website annomynously always...?
[14:42] <styler2go> Hey Guys, i have a little problem with my Apache2 on Ubuntu 12.04, could someone help me? This is my error message i get: http://pastebin.com/vD9h6VHY
[14:42] <theJeremy> linuxearth: some people can, but not you. It's very hard to do, and you have a lot to learn.
[14:42] <JoeyJoeJo> SunTsu: Ah, thanks. After I logged out and back in I saw the updated hostname in my shell
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> styler2go: I'd ask in #httpd or #apache  I forget which it is
[14:42] <bost> Could anybody explain me what happens when a message "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/..." appears during apt-get update / upgrade?
[14:43] <linuxearth> theJeremy: you are true dude, but the people like you can only let me know
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> bost: you installed a new kernel and it is being setup as part of postinst
[14:43] <whoever> theJeremy: ah, thx
[14:43] <SunTsu> bost: it updates your initramfs - which contains everything the kernel will need during boot time
[14:43] <theJeremy> linuxearth: you might need to pay a tutor to get good instruction. It's hard work to learn, and hard work to teach.
[14:44] <susususuhuh33> ciao a tutti
[14:44] <susususuhuh33> !list
[14:44] <styler2go> #apache is only by invite :-/
[14:44] <theJeremy> linuxearth: try googling "Tor NSA"
[14:44] <bazhang> styler2go, its #httpd
[14:45] <bazhang> !google | theJeremy
[14:45] <bost> ActionParsnip: SunTsu: Hmm thats what I thought. So it means that I need to reboot in order to "use" the upgrade/update. Right?
[14:45] <linuxearth> theJeremy: ok i try that search but you can let me know here itself a little a little so that i can know better
[14:45] <theJeremy> ubottu: not even for off-topic questions?
[14:46] <bazhang> theJeremy, if you dont know, dont say anything
[14:46] <theJeremy> linuxearth: yuo have to unsderstand HTTP proxy first, then you can learn about anonymizing proxy networks.
[14:47] <bazhang> !tor | linuxearth
[14:47] <pression> hello guys, somebody know how to benefit a graphic card? without using in games
[14:47] <theJeremy> Is there a better place to get help with Ubuntu problem with -gt noob folks?
[14:48] <bazhang> theJeremy, what are you talking about. what is -gt
[14:48] <theJeremy> pression: ATLAS libraries do matrix arithmetic in GPUs if you have supported drivers
[14:48] <linuxearth> theJeremy: thanks man
[14:48] <linuxearth> i try that way
[14:48] <bost> pression: http://threejs.org/ launch some of the examples there
[14:48] <linuxearth> http proxy?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> bost: yes the only real time you need t reboot in Linux is to load a new kernel
[14:49] <theJeremy> bazhang man test(1)
[14:49] <linuxearth> even i don't know a proxy network!
[14:49] <bazhang> !noob > theJeremy
[14:49] <theJeremy> linuxearth: before HTTP proxy, there is HTTP.
[14:49] <baltazor> Hello , I try install ubuntu (12.04.3 , 12.10 or 13.04 desktop amd64) , when need edit disk, there empty, but in list for install grub , disk detected
[14:49] <linuxearth> well thanks anyways, i wuld try that way. thanks theJeremy and even I have to learn the Http. :0-
[14:50] <baltazor> if try use livecd , disk detected and i can edit with help cfdisk
[14:50] <baltazor> How i can fixed that? thanks
[14:50] <theJeremy> linuxearth: Wikipedia has good introductions to HTTP and stuff like that.
[14:52] <theJeremy> linuxearth: study hard or risk being fooled into thinking you are anon, when your identity is leaked, and you get the worst kind of consequences.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> linuxbaby: obsurity is not a security measure
[14:53] <theJeremy> ActionParsnip: but anonymity --> impunity, and impunity is an element of security.
[14:53] <bost> ActionParsnip: yea u r sort of right. My real question if is it possible to explicitly display a message "You need to reboot to activate this upgrade" when update-initramfs changes the kernel?
[14:54] <seba_> hola
[14:54] <seba_> alguien habla español?
[14:54] <bost> ActionParsnip: that would make my first question kind of obsolete
[14:54] <seba_> spanish?
[14:54] <seba_> only spanishh
[14:54] <seba_> aaj
[14:54] <SamSagaZ> guys, recommend me to install ubuntu using encrytion option ON?
[14:54] <seba_> bye
[14:54] <seba_> chau
[14:54] <FloodBot1> seba_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> theJeremy: its a very poor attempt at securty
[14:55] <theJeremy> OK I can probably assume there is nobody here that can even direct me to help on an advanced question about Ubuntu 13.04 VirtualBox NAT. Good luck all!
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> bost: yes this will happen in the top right of the desktop
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> bost: or when you ssh in as well :)
[14:56] <bost> ActionParsnip: actually it does not appear when I update && upgrade from console
[14:56] <styler2go> Maybe i could ask something offtopic here... Do you Guys know where i could get help setting up a gameserver in Ubuntu?
[14:59] <SamSagaZ> oh, found that the encryption performance is lower than without that option will install it using encryption off
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> bost: seems that /var/run/reboot-required will exist
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> bost: /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required   ran with sudo can also tell you
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> bost: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1012637.html
[15:01] <bost> ActionParsnip: ls: cannot access /var/run/reboot-required: No such file or directory
[15:01] <bost>
[15:03] <bost> ActionParsnip: it's the /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required
[15:04] <bost> ActionParsnip: THX - good to know it
[15:04] <mrwappie> good afternoon
[15:06] <bost> ActionParsnip: anyway i consider it to be a kind of flaw that a reboot indication isn't obvious. What do you think?
[15:11] <faeroe> join #salt
[15:16] <karab44> Hi all!
[15:16] <Rory> Hi karab44
[15:22] <atoui> Hi how are you
[15:23] <swaagie> so my razer mouse (regardless of surface) seems to be skipping 300-400px up or down occasionally (while if move in any direction), what can I check to find the cause behind this? All interwebs stuff seems to be related to laptops etc..
[15:25] <swaagie> ow also the behaviour is non-existant in windows
[15:25] <loa> swaagie, maybe this help http://superuser.com/questions/259216/disabling-mouse-acceleration-in-x-org-   linux
[15:25] <loa> i think i am not 100% got question.
[15:26] <styler2go> One simple Question: How can i create a file like a *.bat file on Windows? Something that executes a simple command line
[15:26] <swaagie> loa: well actually that could be the case
[15:27] <swaagie> those razers got firmware on the mouse which may be causing issues with drivers in linux
[15:27] <swaagie> ill try it out
[15:28] <Rory> styler2go: The process is identical on Linux, just put the commands you want to run in a file, and execute it
[15:28] <styler2go> no matter whats the file-extension?
[15:28] <swaagie> loa: although on windows this video is the exact same thing i'm getting on ubuntu 13 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olF_x48bVEY
[15:28] <swaagie> i'll try that link first though
[15:28] <Rory> styler2go: File extensions have no special meaning in Linux, they're just a filename that happens to include a dot
[15:29] <llutz> styler2go: file-extensions are for humans, not for computers :) linux-systems don't care about them
[15:29] <styler2go> okay thanks :)
[15:29] <Rory> styler2go: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/03/introduction-to-bash-scripting/
[15:29] <loa> swaagie, lol
[15:29] <styler2go> and... if i want to write something like a script where i can chose what to start.. something like: ./start teamspeak  or ./start apache, how could i do that?
[15:30] <loa> swaagie, looks like very big trying to do pee very carefully lol
[15:30] <loa> but he can't get it
[15:30] <dakotawulfy> did they change the xorg.confin ubuntu  with the nvidia?
[15:30] <Hanumaan> time is not getting synchronized in my ubuntu 13.04 machine ..
[15:31] <dakotawulfy> xorg.conf sorry
[15:31] <Rory> !ntp | Hanumaan
[15:31] <Wiz_KeeD> guys
[15:32] <lana> hi
[15:32] <Wiz_KeeD> When shopping for a new laptop, how can I quickly check the driver support on ubuntu for it? I wouldn't want to wake up to another "broadcom" sitiuation, any advice?
[15:32] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: take a bootable USB stick, and try it out?
[15:32] <Wiz_KeeD> in the shop gordonjcp ?
[15:32] <gordonjcp> yes
[15:33] <gordonjcp> if they won't let you try it out, don't buy it
[15:33] <lana> :-P
[15:33] <lana> :-9
[15:33] <lana> :-(
[15:33] <Rory> lana: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:34] <styler2go> nobody who could help me? :-/ I want to write a batch file with an if parameter is... statement....
[15:34] <Wiz_KeeD> haha, nice
[15:34] <Rory> styler2go: Please ask #bash for help with bash scripting they will point you towards some beginner resources
[15:34] <Dau`gone> Whats a good application for editing pdf files?
[15:34] <mrwappie1> hi
[15:34] <styler2go> oh ok
[15:34] <Rory> Dau`gone: Libreoffice Writer
[15:34] <mrwappie1> \who
[15:35] <Dau`gone> Thanks Rory
[15:35] <pixelshuck> Hello, I have an Issue booting ubuntu:  "Gave up waiting for root device.", (initramfs) | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6163190/ <- fdisk -l ; that's freshly installed ubuntu.
[15:35] <pixelshuck> Google suggests that it is because of encrypted /home
[15:36] <mrwappie1> hi
[15:36] <pixelshuck> But I don't have encryption
[15:36] <Dau`gone> Libreoffice writer doesnt open the file in a legible fashion...??
[15:36] <raub> pixelshuck: check if what grub things is your root device is indeed the right partition
[15:37] <raub> then check if you can mount it manually
[15:37] <raub> can do that from restore cd
[15:38] <pixelshuck> raub, from the recovery menu thingie, I can see that /dev/sd* don't exist
[15:39] <pixelshuck> raub, Simply _erasing_ whole drive, and then installing clean ubuntu shows same error. Both BIOS and UEFI. and it DID work before.
[15:40] <Lesley> Just did 'Check for updates' on my system, and got these errors: http://pastebin.com/9PtqdJ6K  What do they mean?
[15:40] <pixelshuck> Everything went up in flames, when upon downgrade (13.10 -> 13.04), I've accidentally checked to encrypt my home partition
[15:41] <Rory> Lesley: it means the PPA you added called "ronmi/wallbox" doesn't have a repository for your Ubuntu version
[15:42] <Lesley> Rory: ok.  how do I delete tha particular PPA ?
[15:42] <Rory> Lesley: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ronmi-wallbox-precise.list
[15:42] <swaagie> loa: hmm fiddling around with device parameters didn't work, so thats a no go
[15:43] <loa> swaagie, don't help?
[15:43] <loa> you switched off acceleration?
[15:43] <Hanumaan> Rory, actually I tried both those links and still the time is not getting changed.. I could change the time manually but does it not change with server ?
[15:43] <swaagie> loa: didn't help indeed, tried -1, 0 (default), (1 is not support) and 2
[15:44] <SuperLag> How do you find out what your system's fixed width font is? I figured that'd be in the Appearance settings... but no dice.
[15:44] <loa> swaagie, strange problem)
[15:44] <Rory> Hanumaan: can you try the command: ntpdate -s ntp.ubuntu.com
[15:44] <loa> i thought mouse have standarts or something
[15:44] <Lesley> Rory: thanks.  that line seems to have helped.  what exactly does it do?
[15:44] <Rory> Lesley: It deletes the PPA from your list of repositories. Run "sudo apt-get update" for it to take effect
[15:45] <Rory> Lesley: And please be careful running commands from strangers on the Internet that you don't know what they do ;)
[15:45] <SuperLag> haha
[15:45] <SuperLag> Rory: because you're sinister, right? :)
[15:45] <swaagie> loa: yeah, although razer is doing some funky stuff with their mices. Changing the velocity scaling also doesn't help
[15:45] <Hanumaan> Rory, I tried still it did not changed and showing wrong time for some reason ..
[15:46] <swaagie> ah well its no major issue, I can still work decently enough somehow you learn to adept
[15:46] <Rory> Hanumaan: if you run the command "cat /etc/timezone" does it show a result you expect?
[15:47] <Hanumaan> Rory, yes it shows correct ..
[15:47] <Lesley> Hanumaan: that name created lots of pressure and surely gives you a lot to live up to! :-p
[15:48] <Hanumaan> Lesley, yes you are correct ..
[15:49] <paulens> hello
[15:50] <paulens> i want to create a portable ubuntu workspace (a.k.a. Live USB), but the maximum persistency is 4GB, which is too small for me. is there any chance it would work with full install, while installing it on external USB3 HDD?
[15:53] <Rory> paulens: It should work how you expect if you install to your external hard drive
[15:55] <styler2go> Hey Guys.. i have another big problem.. I can't install software using apt-get. I am getting the error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6163283/
[15:59] <paulens> Rory, thanks
[15:59] <paulens> but i already tried that, and it hung up at loading screen
[16:00] <paulens> tried debug mode, but it showed something about hardware..
[16:00] <ddr_> hello, i am unable to edit the icon size of the unity, i have the ubuntu 12.04 lts and i use the gconf-editor from this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/101415#101415
[16:00] <paulens> i think it was "couldn't determine current hardware" or something like that
[16:00] <ddr_> ...
[16:00] <neobyte> yoyooyo
[16:01] <Nooooooob> Hi guise... how can I setup a route on ubuntu for the following. I am using OpenVPN client but once that it is connected I am unable to connect from any other external PC to the public IP on the computer.
[16:01] <Nooooooob> so I want to have openvpn + Access to the public IP
[16:03] <fox-> hello, could someone please tell me the solution to this error: http://i.imgur.com/9RNi6rH.png
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> fox-: disable the install CD as a package source in software centre or /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:04] <OerHeks> fox-, open softwarecenter, edit sources and disable CD-rom
[16:04] <fox-> i have done that to no avail
[16:05] <fox-> is a reboot required?
[16:06] <OerHeks> fox-, no, just close softwarecenter, and open terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:06] <styler2go> Someone an Idea how to fix this? I can't install new software... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6163283/
[16:07] <fox-> OerHeks, thank you
[16:07] <Rory> styler2go: What ubuntu version are you using? use: "cat /etc/issue" to check
[16:07] <styler2go> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[16:08] <Rory> styler2go: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[16:09] <styler2go> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6163338/
[16:09] <styler2go> :-/
[16:09] <Rory> styler2go: wow... when did this start happening? Is there anything you're not telling me?
[16:09] <styler2go> I...i told you everything! I am not the bad guy!
[16:09] <tux_> the recent kernel update today has borked my X, running acer 725
[16:09] <styler2go> Ok..i am.. its everytime the user :D
[16:10] <Rory> styler2go: So one day it was working and then it stopped?
[16:10] <styler2go> The server is brand new, i never tried it before
[16:10] <styler2go> but yes, it worked once... i have downloaded more using wget..
[16:11] <Rory> styler2go: have you tried rebooting?
[16:11] <Nooooooob> Anyone with knowledge on routes and openvpn?
[16:11] <ddr_>  hello, i am unable to edit the icon size of the unity, i have the ubuntu 12.04 lts and i use the gconf-editor from this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/101415#101415
[16:11] <tux_> 3.8.0-31 is evil !
[16:11] <Rory> ask your real question, Nooooooob
[16:11] <styler2go> Rory: lets try :D
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> fox-: no but you will need to run:  sudo apt-get update
[16:12] <paulens> Rory, he already asked it...
[16:12] <Nooooooob> Rory...   I am tunneling through SSH to a VPS with ubuntu.  on the VPS I setup the OpenVPN client. It connects properly but once that it connects, the SSH tunnel drops.. I get disconnected and I am unable to access the public ip.
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Rory: that will need sudo ;)
[16:12] <paulens> Rory, he wants to access his public IP while connected to VPN. i think it's impossible
[16:12] <medo> I have setup a working l2tp/ipsec vpn server - but none of my clients can use static ip's, they all seem to get overwritten by the address issued by ppp. Any help?
[16:12] <foureight84> what happens when you run crontab without any flags?
[16:12] <Nooooooob> paulens: it is not impossible... it has to do with policy routing
[16:13] <Rory> paulens: It's not impossible at all, you can set a VPN up to use only certain routes. I'm not sure of the syntax though
[16:13] <Nooooooob> but unfortunally I have little knowledge on policy routing
[16:13] <paulens> Rory, oh, that would be useful for me too xD
[16:13] <styler2go> Rory: ouh yeah
[16:14] <styler2go> it also wont restart
[16:14] <ice9> I compiled the latest kernel version and installed it, when I boot in it, it crashes showing errors about ecrypt and /dev/urandom
[16:14] <Rory> Try also asking in #openvpn Nooooooob
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> ice9: i'd ask in #linux or #kernel
[16:14] <Nooooooob> I did but they showed me a 1000 page document lol with no help at all
[16:14] <Rory> styler2go: You might have to do an actual hardware reset
[16:14] <Nooooooob> Rory:  they are not helpful when it comes to advance setups
[16:14] <paulens> Rory, remember i asked about live usb? well, it shows some weird error about not recognizing hardware
[16:14] <paulens> and my mouse and keyboard stop working
[16:14] <Rory> paulens: Could you be more specific about the error?
[16:15] <paulens> sorry, idk how to access logs or anything like that
[16:15] <styler2go> i killed linux...
[16:15] <styler2go> lets have a moment of silence
[16:15] <pixelshuck> Hello; http://i.imgur.com/7LDzBoi.jpg
[16:15] <foureight84> what happens when you run crontab without any flags?
[16:15] <paulens> Rory, i can try to take a picture of the screen with my phone camera though... but i'll need to log off this channel
[16:16] <paulens> Rory, if i run it normally, it just loads up and hangs up with a blank pink-ish screen
[16:16] <Nooooooob> so no one that could help me? :(
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> pixelshuck: boot to liveCD and chroot in then reinstate grub
[16:17] <tux_> anyone update with 3.8.0-31 today?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> pixelshuck: omgubuntu has a guide called: sticking it to grub
[16:17] <pixelshuck> ActionParsnip, No. It is Clean install. 7-th.
[16:17] <paulens> Rory, but if i run it in debug mode, it shows some weird warnings which basically consist of numbers, and then the menu appears. when i click boot normally, it says something about unrecognized hardware and my mouse and keyboard won't work from that point
[16:17] <hs366> is Samba installing by default with 13.04  ?
[16:18] <styler2go> Rory: It's dead. won't restart.
[16:18] <paulens> Rory, there is an option to troubleshoot, but as my keyboard doesn't work, i can't access it...
[16:18] <Rory> styler2go: Pull the plug if necessary
[16:18] <paulens> Rory, shall i send you a screenshot?
[16:19] <styler2go> Rory: It's a rent server :D
[16:19] <Rory> paulens: No, just because I have to go home in a minute
[16:19] <styler2go> I have to reinstall it...
[16:19] <Rory> styler2go: That was my second suggestion
[16:19] <styler2go> Oh no :(
[16:19] <paulens> Rory, oh.. sad xD
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> pixelshuck: still may need doing
[16:19] <Rory> styler2go: Try rebooting it first, your provider should provide a way to do this
[16:20] <Rory> paulens: I'm not sad, it's Friday and I'm going home :P
[16:20] <paulens> Rory, yes, but I AM sad xDDD
[16:20] <Nooooooob> I am way more sad
[16:20] <Nooooooob> lol
[16:20] <paulens> Nooooooob, tried #openvpn?
[16:21] <styler2go> Rory: I tried, it is not reacting
[16:21] <hs366> !Samba
[16:21] <styler2go> now i have to reinstall everything.. damn...
[16:22] <hs366> !Samba 4
[16:22] <hs366> !Samba4
[16:22] <paulens> oh, here's the only output of the console in WORDS, not numbers (partially): '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:(some random numbers)' [365] terminated by signal 9 (Killed)
[16:22] <hs366> paulens, thx
[16:22] <Rory> styler2go: Open a ticket with your provider, they'll probably reboot it quite quickly
[16:22] <paulens> hs366, for what?
[16:23] <Rory> styler2go: So it *isn't* a brand new server? What did you install?
[16:23] <hs366> paulens,  i thought you replied me :D
[16:23] <paulens> hs366, oh xD though i didn't :P
[16:23] <styler2go> Maybe... i copied the backup of the old Server wrong.. :D
[16:23] <hs366> hahaha..! cool bro
[16:24] <paulens> ok brb
[16:24] <paulens> i'll be back with my dumb problems soon
[16:24] <ddr_> so, nobody wants to help me?
[16:24] <hs366> ddr :(
[16:24] <Rory> ddr_: You say you're "unable" to but you haven't said anything anyone could use to help you.
[16:24] <Rory> !details | ddr_
[16:26] <styler2go> Rory: Reinstallation almost done...
[16:27] <styler2go> Rory: Thanks for your help anyway :)
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> ddr_, The instructions are for dconf-editor
[16:29] <Rory> styler2go: Np, going home now all
[16:30] <sinus_> hi, how do I disable the announcement of "has joined" and "has quit"?
[16:30] <theJeremy> sinus_: that depends on your IRC client.
[16:30] <sinus_> oh, I have xchat
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> sinus_, most likely in the preferences of the app you are using, which help to like share at the least.
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> sinus_, In the prefrences of xchat
[16:31] <theJeremy> sinus_: those are notice messages, and you may find some configuration options on their disposition, or not, in your IRC client docs. You may want to try a different IRC client.
[16:32] <ddr_>  i am unable to edit the icon size of the unity, i have the ubuntu 12.04 lts and i use the gconf-editor from this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/101415#101415
[16:32] <ddr_> and i want to know why, and i want to be able to edit it
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> ddr_, IT SAYS dconf-editor.
[16:32] <ddr_> Rory,
[16:32] <ddr_> ubottu,
[16:32] <ddr_> wilee-nilee,
[16:33] <ddr_> wilee-nilee, yes, but in that page i also have for the gconf-editor
[16:33] <sinus_> TheJeremy hmm, there are alot of settings can't find it. Ill check if it is in the advanced settings
[16:33] <ddr_> i use the gconf
[16:33] <baphomet1> hey guys, I have sort of an odd question (maybe).  I have a drive mounted in the fstab, but I believe the drive is failing, this is part of a pool.  What I would like to do is pull the drive from the system, remount it using a USB drive dock.  but I want it to be mounted as it is in the fstab and not in /media.  what would be the proper syntax for accomplishing this?
[16:35] <mrwappie1> hi dos some one know a place were i can find info about kevin mitnick?
[16:35] <theJeremy> baphomet1: you can plug it in, let it mount, then unmount it manually, and remount it however you want.
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> !fstab | baphomet1 all over the web
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> baphomet1, If its failing I would not have it in fstab.
[16:36] <baphomet1> theJeremy, not sure of the proper syntax to mount it as it appears in the fstab.
[16:36] <baphomet1> wilee-nilee, I know, but to properly remove it from the greyhole pool I need to at least have it there temporarily
[16:37] <baphomet1> wilee-nilee, right now the system is shutdown until I can figure out the best course of action that will minimize data loss
[16:37] <theJeremy> baphomet1: the hard way is to delve into udev(7) rules.
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> baphomet1, The bot has fstab info and multiple links at the bottom of the wiki.
[16:37] <baphomet1> wilee-nilee, my question is not about the fstab.  my question is about how to remount the USB drive so that it is in the same location as the drive currently resides in the fstab
[16:38] <medo> I have setup a working l2tp/ipsec vpn server - but none of my clients can use static ip's, they all seem to get overwritten by the address issued by ppp. Any help?
[16:38] <theJeremy> baphomet1: if you do "mount <mountpoint>" mount(8) will look up the device node in the fstab using "<mountpoint>" as a key.
[16:39] <baphomet1> theJeremy, in the <mountpoint> am I to put the actual mount point or do I leave that command as is?
[16:39] <skinux> Where do we set position windows are opened at?
[16:40] <theJeremy> baphomet1: but /etc/fstab is for persistent device usage. Don't use it for temporary stuff, unless you will need to remount it a lot of times for maintenance. Instead, just "mount <device> <mountpoint>".
[16:41] <theJeremy> baphomet1: whenever I said <mountpoint> you need to use your intended mountpoint.
[16:41] <baphomet1> theJeremy, once the data is moved out of the greyhole pool and off the device I will have it removed from the fstab.  it is only temporary because of how the pool is seeing it.  good to know the syntax :D.  just hoping the drive will live long enough to actually move data off.
[16:42] <baphomet1> theJeremy, thank you for the assistance!
[16:42] <theJeremy> baphomet1: YW. I'm payin' my dues to try and get some help with a hard one.
[16:44] <baphomet1> theJeremy, just one more question for clarification.  you first suggested using "mount <mountpoint>" indicating that it would look up the device node (this means the USB device?) in the fstab using the <mountpoint> as the key.  you then suggested using "mount <device> <mountpoint>".  would you say the second method is more 'fool proof' as it were?
[16:44] <hs366> anyone updated Eclipse to new R2 version today ? if any experiences you have
[16:45] <theJeremy> baphomet1: the second form of mount command is explicit. That makes it less ambiguous, not fool-proof, but in that direction, yes.
[16:45] <hs366> R2 = SR1
[16:45] <baphomet1> theJeremy, thanks!  I will run with that one.
[16:45] <theJeremy> baphomet1: good luck!
[16:46] <baphomet1> theJeremy, so it would be like "mount /media/usb1 (example) /dev/sdb1 (or however it appears in the fstab)" just want to make sure I have it correct
[16:47] <theJeremy> baphomet1: more like "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb1"
[16:47] <wheatthin> baphomet1, you might have to specify the filesystem type
[16:47] <baphomet1> theJeremy, why the reverse?
[16:48] <sinus_> Any gamers here?
[16:48] <mrwappie> daf
[16:48] <wheatthin> cause mount point always goes second
[16:48] <mrwappie> das
[16:48] <sinus_> Like soldat or Liero x?
[16:48] <baphomet1> wheatthin, ah.  ok
[16:48] <mrwappie> DA
[16:48] <mrrcp> is there a package to install all the MS OFFICE fonts so that libreoffice can display windows presentations properly?
[16:48] <theJeremy> baphomet1: note what whaeatthin said, and you might want to "man mount."
[16:48] <mrrcp> !msoffice
[16:48] <mrwappie> D
[16:48] <mrrcp> hmm
[16:48] <hs366> !eclipse update
[16:49] <hs366> !eclipse
[16:49] <baphomet1> theJeremy, checking it now :D
[16:49] <theJeremy> baphomet1: "mount [-fnrsvw] [-t vfstype] [-o options] device dir" <-- straight from the manpage.
[16:49] <baphomet1> theJeremy, thanks again!
[16:49] <baphomet1> wheatthin, thank you too!
[16:49] <ddr_> so, nobody knows the solution to my problem?
[16:49] <hs366> ! Eclipse
[16:49] <hs366> !IDE
[16:49] <baphomet1> ddr_, please restate the problem?
[16:50] <theJeremy> baphomet1: what wheatthin is talking about is the "-t vfstype" option.
[16:50] <hs366> ! eclipse
 Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse
[16:50] <hs366>  duuuhhhhhh!!!
[16:50] <mrrcp> anyone
[16:50] <theJeremy> ddr_: have you tried any UI tweak tools?
[16:51] <isasha> Yo
[16:51] <isasha> is sshuttle secure enough for home use?
[16:51] <baphomet1> theJeremy, noted.  I would hope it would pick up on the fact that it is ext4, but if not it's no biggie to specify it
[16:53] <theJeremy> baphomet1: YMMV, but you *may* want to try using dd to pull the raw blocks off the drive if it won't mount. dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/your_bigstorage/broken_drive.img
[16:53] <johey> When using linux-lowlatency kernel, my ThinkPad X1 Carbon does not boot. I hangs at "Loading linux-lowlatency-3.8.31". When switching back to generic, it continues with loading ramfs and so on.
[16:53] <johey> Anyone has an idea on how to track this down?
[16:54] <baphomet1> theJeremy, that was also on the table.  if DD fails safecopy is next. http://sourceforge.net/projects/safecopy/
[16:55] <tux3> hello
[16:55] <Markus_> The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) (sdb) failed.
[16:56] <Markus_> Trying to install
[16:56] <Markus_> 12.04
[16:56] <Markus_> Anyone can help_
[16:56] <Markus_> ?
[16:56] <sinus_> visst
[16:56] <Markus_> Okej skicka pm
[16:57] <theJeremy> baphomet1: if you get a dd img file, use mount -o loop /yr_directory/blahblah.img /media/usb1
[16:57] <mrrcp> Markus_: ?
[16:57] <Markus_> How do i answear pm_
[16:57] <Markus_> ?
[16:57] <sinus_> gah, hur?
[16:57] <Markus_> ja?
[16:57] <Markus_> Lite noob ?
[16:57] <Markus_> <3
[16:57] <sinus_> Ja? Jag är van vid mirc
[16:57] <sinus_> har xchat nu
[16:57] <baphomet1> theJeremy, having never used DD and just speculating what that command does...does that expand the img file created by DD to the attached USB drive?
[16:58] <tux_> test
[16:58] <wheatthin> baphomet1, it copies the hard drive bit by bit
[16:58] <baphomet1> theJeremy, checking the man pages for DD now too.
[16:58] <DJones> !se | sinus_
[16:58] <Tausen> Hey everyone! I'm having some issues making my profilic usb to parallel device work - am I not supposed to see a device for this in /dev?
[16:58] <theJeremy> baphomet1: dd copies the raw drive (partition) contents, block by block, to a file
[16:59] <wheatthin> baphomet1, usually used in data rescue
[16:59] <baphomet1> wheatthin, is it possible to go from a larger capacity drive to a smaller capacity drive?  the larger capacity drive is not using more than the smaller capacity drive can hold.
[16:59] <wheatthin> yup
[16:59] <baphomet1> theJeremy, how can I expand that file back out to a new hard drive?
[16:59] <mrwappie> d
[16:59] <wheatthin> dd*
[16:59] <wheatthin> :P
[16:59] <baphomet1> theJeremy, brb
[16:59] <baphomet1> wheatthin, brb
[16:59] <mrwappie> dsfs
[17:00] <mrwappie> faasf
[17:00] <mrwappie> sadsa
[17:00] <wheatthin> you can do it to a file, or to a completely new hard drive baphomet1
[17:00] <tux3> hello
[17:00] <theJeremy> baphomet1: you are getting in really deep now. resize2fs(8) is yr friend.
[17:01] <Markus_> The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) (sdb) failed. How to fix_?
[17:02] <tux3> im a new ubuntu user
[17:02] <theJeremy> baphomet1: if you want to resize the fs, you should definitely dd it off the flaky hardware onto a file, and work with that until it's less than a partition on the smaller target drive, then you can dd the file onto the target drive partition device node.
[17:02] <DJones> tux3: Well welcome to the support channel
[17:02] <Markus_> Any1 has a idea?
[17:02] <tux_> e//quit
[17:03] <tux3> im using lubuntu but how can to fix the repository? wich good serrver can i use fora efficent upgrade?
[17:03] <theJeremy> Markus_: that means your hardware is b0rk3d.
[17:03] <ddr_> theJeremy, nope, but why the gconf-editor is not working?
[17:03] <wheatthin> Markus_, did you try unmounting, and manually partitioning?
[17:03] <theJeremy> ddr_: hard to say.
[17:03] <ddr_> baphomet1,  i am unable to edit the icon size of the unity, i have the ubuntu 12.04 lts and i use the gconf-editor from this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/101415#101415
[17:03] <tux3> someone can tell me??
[17:04] <jhutchins> Markus_: Is that the installer?
[17:04] <tux_> anyone know of a way to create usb boot disk via terminal ?
[17:04] <TheSov> morning all! i just updated my ubuntu and now im getting an nvidia api mismatch, verion is XXXX kernel has XXXX error
[17:04] <yokobr> hey guys, i`m getting an error message while it tries to update intramftools
[17:04] <yokobr> initramftools
[17:04] <wheatthin> Markus_, also, make sure you're not using GPT partitioning
[17:04] <tux_> ThsSov my X is borked, join the club
[17:04] <jhutchins> TheSov: If you're using the proprietary drivers they need to recompile against the new kernel.
[17:04] <DJones> tux3: I don't use lubuntu myself, you may get an answer in this channel, it might also be worth joining #lubuntu and asking there about the reporistory issue
[17:05] <TheSov> jhutchins, how would i do this?
[17:05] <yokobr> ubuntu asks me to do apt-get -f install
[17:05] <Markus_> How do I respond to pms_
[17:05] <yokobr> but get the same error
[17:05] <Markus_> ?
[17:05] <Calinou> Markus_: by going in their tab
[17:05] <jhutchins> !nvidia
[17:05] <TheSov> thanks!
[17:05] <tux3> ok thanks for your reply:)
[17:05] <jhutchins> TheSov: Hope it helps, I haven't done it myself.
[17:05] <wheatthin> yokobr, It'll do that if you had an incomplete install and it needs to fix
[17:06] <yokobr> initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu13.1.1~); but:   initramfs-tools-bin is  0.99ubuntu13.2.
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> yokobr, Do you have a stopped install, or is this from ppa or 3rd party?
[17:06] <yokobr> some jerk just turned the server off while updating
[17:06] <TheSov> im a noob so most of this is greek to me
[17:06] <jhutchins> tux3: Do you have an iso, like the one you used to install?
[17:06] <TheSov> is there any way i can just revert
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> yokobr: [ sudo dpkg --configure -a ]
[17:07] <jhutchins> TheSov: Did the update create a new boot entry when it updated the kernel?
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> yokobr, run apt-get update and pastebin it.
[17:07] <TheSov> no idea
[17:07] <TheSov> can i simply remove the nvidia driver?
[17:07] <TheSov> i need my work station up 3d acceleration be damned
[17:08] <Tausen> With a parallel-to-usb cable, am I not supposed to see an entry for it in /dev ?
[17:08] <wheatthin> TheSov, if you remove the driver, you won't have 3d accelleration
[17:08] <TheSov> thats fine really
[17:09] <Markus_> The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) (sdb) failed. pm me.
[17:09] <wheatthin> all you have to do is generate the xorg.conf file and have it use "nv" as the driver instead of nvidia
[17:09] <tux3> i got a cd with iso that i have downloded
[17:09] <jhutchins> TheSov: I don't know which driver you have, but yes, you can use the OS nvidia driver.  The exacct steps should be in that link above, or just reverse the process they use.  I believe you have to un-blacklist the OS driver.
[17:10] <jhutchins> TheSov: Ah, so according to wheatthin, just make a copy of the file for when you later want to go back to nvidia and update it to use nv.
[17:10] <jhutchins> wheatthin: Do you have to do anything for the kernel kms module?
[17:10] <TheSov> ok if i find out what version of the driver i was using can i reinstall that?
[17:10] <Markus_> The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) (sdb) failed. on an ultrabook samsung 900x model.
[17:11] <Markus_> 12.04 install
[17:11] <JohnVonNeumann> i wanna change the installation point  of /dev/sdb3
[17:11] <TheSov> because i know it was 304.88
[17:11] <frank-lnx> Quick logging question.  I've added cron.* -/var/log/cron.log to /etc/rsyslog.conf in an attempt to keep the main log file from being "flooded" by cron messages.  It is now updating the /var/log/cron.log file, but the updates are also going to /var/log/messages as well.  Is there a way to stop this duplication?
[17:11] <tux3> jhutchins are you there?
[17:11] <jhutchins> tux3: If you need to get the iso file off of the CD it's just dd if=/dev/cdr of=debian.iso
[17:12] <JohnVonNeumann> i wanna change the mount  point  of /dev/sdb3
[17:12] <jhutchins> tux3: Then you should be able to dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/<usb drive>
[17:12] <tux3> but from wich path?
[17:12] <wheatthin> tux3, it would help if you were in the current iso directory for that to work
[17:13] <a7i3n> In the opinion of everyone here: What is the best way to upgrade Ubuntu to a new release?
[17:13] <wheatthin> jhutchins, Ummm kms kernel modules could be loaded via modules.d or something alike
[17:13] <tux3> also in my home directory?
[17:13] <hs366> if i remove the Eclipse folder from my   /opt , does it remove completely ?
[17:13] <wheatthin> where did you create the iso at? :)
[17:13] <tux3> or from terminal?
[17:14] <TheSov> is there any way to reinstall nvidia driver 304.88?
[17:14] <wheatthin> from terminal
[17:14] <wheatthin> TheSov, indeed you can always use the apt-get reinstall <nvidia driver>
[17:15] <TheSov> yes but the heck would the package name for that driver be?
[17:15] <TheSov> heh
[17:15] <wheatthin> TheSov, you can search for it    apt-cache search nvidia
[17:16] <BluesKaj> a7i3n:  the common response is a clean install after backing up your data, but an internet OS release upgrade can be done with : sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:16] <TheSov> yes found it!
[17:16] <TheSov> thanks!
[17:16] <wheatthin> yup
[17:17] <TheSov> hopefully this wokrs
[17:17] <TheSov> works
[17:17] <tux3> hi pepee
[17:17] <TheSov> hmm says i have a different driver in dkms
[17:17] <TheSov> remove all dkms modules?
[17:18] <wheatthin> it means you already have the newest version
[17:18] <wheatthin> otherwise it would have updated
[17:18] <TheSov> its asking me if i want to remove dkms modules?
[17:18] <wheatthin> Sure.
[17:18] <TheSov> cool
[17:19] <TheSov> works!
[17:19] <TheSov> thanks so much
[17:19] <TheSov> im going download that deb and keep it, i dont want this happening again
[17:19] <hs366> Q: if i remove the Eclipse folder from my   /opt , does it remove completely ?
[17:20] <hs366> thx
[17:20] <baphomet1> theJeremy, back
[17:21] <baphomet1> wheatthin, back
[17:21] <Calinou> hs366: normally yes
[17:21] <hs366> i just installed it by DL the package from Eclipse.org , not from package manager
[17:22] <hs366> so i thought maybe i should do more ,
[17:22] <baphomet1> wheatthin, if I use DD and move it to a file, am I able to then expand that file out onto a new drive at a later date?
[17:22] <a7i3n> Thanks BluesKaj... I usually do a clean install, just checking to see if anyone knew a better way. I think I'd like a rolling release model...
[17:22] <baphomet1> theJeremy, IC.  so I could go to a larger drive, but smaller would be bad?
[17:23] <hs366> Calinou,  thx , i will try it :)
[17:24] <BluesKaj> a7i3n:  I've done it successfully using both methods , but I prefer the internet upgrade , because there's no fooling around with reinstalling stuff
[17:24] <wheatthin> baphomet1,  yup
[17:25] <tech11> hi all
[17:26] <blabli> hello
[17:26] <blabli> is it possible to mount /usr with --bind option ?
[17:26] <blabli> on an ubuntu system
[17:27] <baphomet1> wheatthin, and DD doesn't care about the drive size used to pull down an img file?  the drive that is going out is 2TB, but maybe only a couple hundred gigs are in use.  I have a spare 1TB drive that I can DD it to tonight, but I want to be sure that wouldn't cause problems
[17:27] <baphomet1> wheatthin, judging by what theJeremy said, it looks like DD may panic if I do that
[17:28] <yokobr> hey guys, solved. I was out of free space on /boot
[17:28] <yokobr> thank you all
[17:28] <wheatthin> yeah the drive it will panic, cause it'll also try to copy the empty bits
[17:28] <wheatthin> so you must have the same size drive, or larger, never smaller
[17:29] <baphomet1> wheatthin, that is why he brought up the resizefs thing.  so I could DD it to a larger drive without issue then.  hmm.  I think my first step (read as the easiest step) is to have the drive mounted after boot to pull it out of the drive pool.
[17:29] <baphomet1> wheatthin, sorry to be a n00b, but at this point we are far beyond my own Linux knowledge.  so I just want to be sure I do things correctly.
[17:31] <baphomet1> wheatthin, so it looks like if I do the "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb1" that will mount the possibly failing drive I have pulled and put in a USB dock to the same location that it used to reside in the fstab, short of possibly having to tell it the file system type, am I missing anything there?
[17:31] <wheatthin> it's not needed to be in fstab
[17:32] <paul424> is kubuntu binary compatible with ubuntu ?
[17:32] <baphomet1> wheatthin, the background here is that I am using greyhole (a samba storage pooling solution) and I need it in the fstab until I can remove the drive from the greyhole pool.
[17:32] <wheatthin> I see
[17:32] <baphomet1> wheatthin, so will the above command accomplish what I am trying to accomplish?
[17:33] <wheatthin> as long as /media/usb1 exists, if not create the directory
[17:33] <sandertje> how can i prevent Zeitgeist from eating all my RAM?
[17:34] <xangua> paul424: kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repositories, bot are Ubuntu
[17:34] <chaotic_good> tryign to find 'spotter' a python script to spot files, it says its managed by udate???
[17:34] <chaotic_good> I dont see in /etc/init.d
[17:34] <paul424> ok
[17:34] <baphomet1> wheatthin, I used /media/usb1 as an example, but I understand.
[17:34] <Myrtti> paul424: well deep down they're nearly the same thing, a bit like tea is still tea if it's poured from a teacup to a tea mug
[17:34] <baphomet1> wheatthin, so all that command is doing is pointing the mount point listed in the fstab at a different location, correct?
[17:34] <tech11> i have problem with make step install gammamoo server. can people help me install it in my server, ubuntu?
[17:35] <wheatthin> ooh this is fstab entry
[17:35] <wheatthin> You have to also specify filesystem type
[17:35] <Myrtti> paul424: looks different from the outside - the repositories are same and the basic stuff is the same underneath the hood
[17:35] <wheatthin> and user permission
[17:36] <baphomet1> wheatthin, ok.  is user permission one of the flags you append to the mount command or is it something that I should write into the fstab?
[17:36] <wheatthin> in fstab
[17:36] <paul424> http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/Ogre+Meshy I wante to install kubuntu on ubuntu desktop
[17:37] <tech11> i have problem with make step install gammamoo server. can people help me install it in my server, ubuntu?
[17:37] <jhutchins> wheatthin: usb drives tend to mount automatically via udev, which usually creates the appropriate mount point in /media/ - fstab entries are useful for setting options but not necessary.
[17:38] <jhutchins> paul424: No need, just install KDE.
[17:38] <wheatthin> rgr.. I'll remember that jhutchins
[17:38] <jhutchins> !kde
[17:39] <baphomet1> wheatthin, so the command should look something like this on my system "mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/UUID_OF_FAILING_DRIVE /media/USB_DRIVE_LOCATION -t ext4" again noting that the device UUID that is being provided is the same device that is going to be mounted as a USB device.  does this seem correct?
[17:39] <paul424> to install an KUBUNTU program* ...
[17:39] <Myrtti> paul424: but you don't have to install kde to install that app, no
[17:39] <paul424> on ubuntu system
[17:39] <tech11> i have problem with make step install gammamoo server. can people help me install it in my server, ubuntu?
[17:39] <paul424> :)
[17:39] <wheatthin> baphomet1, no sir.. partition type should go right after mount
[17:40] <baphomet1> wheatthin, "mount -t ext4 /dev/disk/by-uuid/UUID_OF_FAILING_DRIVE /media/USB_DRIVE_LOCATION" ok.  this is just strange to me because we are pointing something that already exists at itself in a different location hehe.
[17:41] <wheatthin> no uuid for /dev
[17:41] <wheatthin> just the device.... /dev/sda or whatever
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> tech11, 3rd party, not technically a ubuntu support install, you might also try #ubuntu-server
[17:42] <wheatthin> UUID will be just for fstab
[17:42] <jhutchins> tech11: There should be a README file and possibly an INSTALL file with instructions in the package.
[17:43] <jhutchins> tech11: If there isn't one, or if it's not clear, you should reconsider using that package.
[17:44] <wheatthin> baphomet1, check this out   http://askubuntu.com/questions/232790/automount-ext4-partition-with-user-permission-ownership-fstab
[17:44] <JoeLinux> Can someone help me out with screen/byobu configuration on Ubuntu EC2 instance? Specifically, handling login and logout of sessions.
[17:45] <kirkland> JoeLinux: what are you looking for?
[17:45] <JoeLinux> I need to support multiple connections to the same byobu session on login (so multiple connections mirror the display). For teaching/observation purposes.
[17:45] <kirkland> JoeLinux: are using the screen or the tmux backend?
[17:46] <jboii> hi
[17:46] <JoeLinux> kirkland: Eh, it doesn't matter. I have both installed and can switch to whichever is more suited for this purpose.
[17:46] <kirkland> JoeLinux: do you care if your students have write access inside of the session?  or do you need to protect yourself by making that read-only?
[17:47] <jboii> can someone help me add a podcast to rhythmbox?
[17:47] <jboii> http://tunein.com/topic/?topicId=49578202
[17:47] <jboii> im tryin to get this one to work
[17:47] <JoeLinux> kirkland: Don't need that protection. To be more specific, I'm having another developer login to make his application work, and he's going to run through it step-by-step while I watch, basically.
[17:48] <kirkland> JoeLinux: okay, great
[17:48] <JoeLinux> He's in NYC, I'm in Miami. So, need to mirror display across SSH sessions.
[17:48] <baphomet1> wheatthin, should I not use the entry as it appears in the fstab?
[17:48] <kirkland> JoeLinux: just enable byobu to launch by default, by running "byobu-enable"
[17:48] <kirkland> JoeLinux: do that once;  now both of you ssh into the system, and you'll both be looking/typing in the same byobu session
[17:49] <wheatthin> baphomet1, not for the initial mount.. just in fstab
[17:49] <HerbertWest> Hello there I need a little help with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/350845/how-to-embed-a-new-window-on-gtk-quickly-glade
[17:49] <JoeLinux> kirkland: I don't need to enable multiuser or anything?
[17:49] <wheatthin> so if you're trying to manually mount it it's   mount -t ext4 /dev/<device> /media/<mount point>
[17:50] <JoeLinux> kirkland: Well I'll be damned. It works that way right out of the box... lol. I feel stupid.
[17:50] <wheatthin> when doing it in fstab, it's by UUID
[17:50] <kirkland> JoeLinux: enjoy ;-)
[17:50] <baphomet1> wheatthin, ok.  I am going to have to figure out what the entry for it is as /dev/device.
[17:50] <baphomet1> wheatthin, ic.
[17:50] <JoeLinux> kirkland: One more... how do I make this "override" the regular session, so you're always in byobu?
[17:50] <kirkland> JoeLinux: that's what byobu-enable does
[17:50] <dinesh__> i m facing brightness problem in ubuntu 12.04 in sony vaio e- series
[17:51] <baphomet1> wheatthin, I am having a look at that link now
[17:51] <JoeLinux> kirkland: I have another EC2 server that was built on another Ubuntu AMI, and it seems that when I type exit, it exits the SSH session instead of just ending the byobu session.
[17:51] <dinesh__> plz help me i m trying from a year today i came to know this irc channel
[17:51] <JoeLinux> kirkland: Which is great because I always pick up where I left off, and don't kill the session by mistake.
[17:51] <kirkland> JoeLinux: so you want to exit byobu, and then remain in a shell on the remote system?
[17:51] <JoeLinux> kirkland: Nope. End the session by typing "exit" once.
[17:52] <kirkland> JoeLinux: you want to type exit, thereby killing byobu AND logging out of your ssh session?
[17:52] <baphomet1> wheatthin, still makes my head spin thinking that we are pointing a drive at itself in a different location haha.  I never would have thought it possible.
[17:52] <dinesh__> any one here to solve my prob ?????
[17:52] <JoeLinux> kirkland: Ugh, nevermind again. It seems that's also the default behavior. Please ignore my... uh... ignorance.
[17:53] <kirkland> JoeLinux: yep, that's exactly the default
[17:53] <wheatthin> baphomet1, well the UUID is basically a shortcut to specifying the device
[17:53] <JoeLinux> kirkland: Thanks.
[17:53] <tech11> i have problem with make step install gammamoo server. can people help me install it in my server, ubuntu?
[17:53] <dinesh__> i m facing brightness problem in ubuntu 12.04 in sony vaio e- series plz help me i m trying from a year today i came to know this irc channel is any one here to solve my prob ?????
[17:53] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Can I add a line to /etc/fstab so an external USB hard drive will mount to the same place every time I boot the computer? I created the mount point, etc., and have the UUID for the drive but adding a standard line to /etc/fstab doesn't seem to work.
[17:53] <bazhang> !blkid | baphomet1
[17:54] <kirkland> JoeLinux: no problem, always glad to see new Byobu users
[17:54] <baphomet1> wheatthin, yeah.  again as we are way out of the scope of my knowledge at this point, is there a reason why using the dev/by-uuid....wouldn't work?
[17:54] <wheatthin> baphomet1, when specifying the mount point, all you're doing is giving you a physical place to access the device
[17:54] <JoeLinux> kirkland: I've been using Screen for years, but never really played with Byobu.
[17:54] <baphomet1> bazhang, thanks for the suggestion, at this point we are far beyond that.
[17:54] <JoeLinux> kirkland: Good stuf
[17:54] <tech11> i have problem with make step install gammamoo server. can people help me install it in my server, ubuntu?
[17:54] <jhutchins> dinesh__: I'm running xfce, but unders Settings/Desktop I have "Brightness" and "Saturation" sliders.
[17:54] <dinesh__> ??
[17:55] <baphomet1> wheatthin, yeah, still bakes my brain though ahah.
[17:55] <dinesh__> jhutchins : then plz help me
[17:55] <wheatthin> baphomet1, it does take some getting used to. :) I've been involved with linux since 2000 or somewhat
[17:56] <jhutchins> dinesh__: How?
[17:56] <dinesh__> idk :P
[17:57] <dinesh__> if u can solve then plz let me know
[17:57] <baphomet1> wheatthin, yeah.  I mean I have been using it for a while now and I love how I continue to learn more about it and how really powerful it is, just scared to break something :D.  so yeah, just curious why using the UUID wouldn't work?
[17:57] <dinesh__> jhutchins: plz help me i m facing problem
[17:57] <tech11> i have problem with make step install gammamoo server. can people help me install it in my server, ubuntu?
[17:57] <wheatthin> baphomet1, if you  'man mount' you might get more insite
[17:57] <wheatthin> insight* lol
[17:58] <baphomet1> wheatthin, I was reading through it, keep getting side tracked with stuff coming up :O.  let me get back to it.  be back in a bit (maybe with more questions :D).
[17:59] <dinesh__> i m facing brightness problem in ubuntu 12.04 in sony vaio e- series plz help me i m trying from a year today i came to know this irc channel is any one here to solve my prob ?????
[18:00] <jhutchins> dinesh__: You said you had a brightness problem, use the control panel to adjust the brightness.
[18:00] <jhutchins> dinesh__: Settings/Desktop.
[18:00] <dinesh__> i did this already
[18:01] <dinesh__> and i m also search too many websites
[18:02] <dinesh__> jhutchins: ???
[18:03] <jhutchins> dinesh__: Is it possible the backlight is failing?
[18:03] <OerHeks> dinesh__, maybe you need to make a Xorg.conf > http://askubuntu.com/questions/23907/changing-brightness-on-a-sony-vaio-laptop
[18:03] <OerHeks> "EnableBrightnessControl=1"
[18:04] <jhutchins> dinesh__: Basic formula here is tell us what you wanted, tell us how you tried to do it, tell us what you expected, and tell us what happened instead.
[18:05] <dinesh__> i i did this
[18:05] <dinesh__> ls /sys/class/backlight
[18:05] <dinesh__> o/p is
[18:06] <dinesh__> plz wait a while
[18:06] <dinesh__> ya
[18:07] <dinesh__>  acpi_video file is shown  after that i did this command sudo bash -c "echo 2 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness" then nothing is happened also function key is working , it is showing the brightness is decreasing/increasing but actually it is not working
[18:07] <tech11> i have problem with make step install gammamoo server. can people help me install it in my server, ubuntu?
[18:07] <tylertwo> Hey, I wanted to reformat my USB stick (it's read-only), so I tried to unmount it first using "sudo umount /dev/sdb1", but I get the message "device is busy". I then entered "fuser -m /dev/sdb1" to see what processes were using it, and around 25 process came up, such as Gnome 2d and Notification Daemon. Any idea why so many processes are using the device?!
[18:08] <dinesh__> jhutchins: read my msg and plz try to reply
[18:08] <styler2go> Hello. I have some trouble creating a new user and i am a linux-"noob". I created the user using "useradd steam -d /home/hlds" and now, if i want to change to the user there is only a simpe $ on the beginning of every line, not like root one
[18:09] <bazhang> !helpme | dinesh__
[18:09] <tech11> i have problem with make step install gammamoo server. can people help me install it in my server, ubuntu?
[18:10] <tech11> i have problem with make step install gammamoo server. can people help me install it in my server, ubuntu?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> !patience | tech11
[18:13] <jhutchins> tech11: We're just fellow users here, it's possible nobody herer has ever heard of gammamoo.
[18:13] <jhutchins> tech11: If it's not part of Ubuntu we probably don't know much abou tit.
[18:15] <jhutchins> whois tech11
[18:15] <Nooooooob> whois jhutchins
[18:15] <Nooooooob> lol
[18:15] <JonathanD> whoami
[18:16] <Nooooooob> whoisgod
[18:16] <Nooooooob> jhutchins: use /
[18:16] <jhutchins> Yeah, yeah, left off the /.
[18:16] <jhutchins> It's a pitty he logged out, the developer is part of my LUG and is logged in to our channel.
[18:17] <bazhang>  /whowas works
[18:19] <jhutchins> bazhang: Actually, freenode server will fall back to whowas if someone logs out.
[18:19] <jhutchins> s/serer/servers/
[18:19] <bazhang> nice to know thanks
[18:19]  * jhutchins considers a new keyboard - or maybe new fingers.
[18:20] <IsntFunny> Is there a simple command to convert all file names to lowercase in a folder?
[18:23] <Calinou> ;-;
[18:26] <tylertwo> ok, i figured it out
[18:26] <baphomet1> wheatthin, sorry about that, just had a minor disaster happen :D.  back now.
[18:41] <niee> Hi folks :)) anyone to help me pls? afrer install phpmyadmin in my Ubuntu and try to opern localhost/phpmyadmin or Applications>Programming>phpMyAdmin my browser download some file. not open admin and password login ]; any ideas how to fix the problem (Ubtunto 11.04).
[18:42] <sketch_> hello all i need some help with getting a much needed .sh to run
[18:43] <shahin> hi every one
[18:43] <shahin> i'm gong to configure kerio vpn
[18:43] <shahin> but i can't
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> !11.04 | niee
[18:43] <shahin> any help?
[18:44] <wizardd> anyone know why the catalyst driver offered by ubuntu doesn't work with amd apu e2-2000 cpu's radeon hd7340?
[18:44] <wizardd> only the open source driver works, and it has poor performance
[18:45] <wizardd> <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[18:45] <shahin> any help?
[18:45] <niee> ubottu: not inposible to update!!!
[18:45] <wizardd> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 7340]
[18:46] <OerHeks> niee, you need "Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf" in apache2.conf, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[18:46] <niee> tnx OerHeks :)
[18:46] <sketch_> anyone have teamviewer that can help me?
[18:48] <OerHeks> sketch_, ./filename.sh will do
[18:48] <Heeeeelp> good afternoon
[18:49] <Heeeeelp> I just installed ubuntu and  all seemed well until the very end when it said it had failed to install GRUB. I tried selecting different partitions to try in, with the same result. I can proceed without installing GRUB, but then it tells me I have to manually install the boot loader
[18:50] <smO3000> Can anyone provide me direction on a web based IT Ticketing freeware that can be hosted on linux server
[18:50] <smO3000> I wouldnt mind paying out of pocket most of what I could find was for large scale business and I just cant afford it currently
[18:52]  * knox_ sup peeple
[18:52] <Heeeeelp> hello
[18:52] <sketch_> OerHeks i tried that and it still wont work
[18:53] <sketch_> hence why i asked if anyone has teamviewer
[18:53] <DJones> smO3000: Not something I've used but may give some hints https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OTRS
[18:53] <OerHeks> sketch_, did you restart apache ? sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[18:53] <sketch_> no but im doing so now
[18:54] <Heeeeelp> i was installing ubuntu 12.04 and  All seemed well until the very end when it said it had failed to install GRUB. I tried selecting different partitions to try in, with the same result. I can proceed without installing GRUB, but then it tells me I have to manually install the boot loader
[18:54] <Heeeeelp> how do i solve this problem.. it is annoying
[18:54] <LennyJr> getting messages on shutdown screen, who knows what thats about?
[18:55] <sketch_> command not found
[18:55] <compdoc> LennyJr, can you read them? must be in a log somewhere
[18:55]  * knox_ lennyJr read them
[18:56] <LennyJr> cant find them becuase i know nothing about computers
[18:56] <LennyJr> the machine is running fine
[18:56] <LennyJr> but why the messages?
[18:56] <imthenachoman> hey guys. im confused about one thing with lirc. how do i find out ir receiver I have?
[18:57] <knox_> ./me if you read them lenny you will know why
[18:57] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: You don't want it installed to a partition, you want it installed to the default boot device (/dev/hda).
[18:57]  * knox_ if you read them lenny you will know why
[18:57] <smO3000> DJones : Thanks for the heads up
[18:58] <LennyJr> i cant read that fast knox, so not sure what to do
[18:58] <LennyJr> they are red messages
[18:58] <compdoc> LennyJr, try looking at the file  /var/log/kern.log
[18:58] <LennyJr> ok
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, This a dual boot say with W8?
[18:59] <LennyJr> yeah, its full of stuff i dont understand
[18:59] <Heeeeelp> no
[18:59] <Heeeeelp> no dual
[19:00] <Heeeeelp> only ubuntu
[19:00] <compdoc> LennyJr, copy it and paste it into pastebin.com, then give us the url
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, Okay how about a fdisk -l pastebinned
[19:01] <LennyJr> think its something to do with being connected to net on shutdown
[19:01] <Heeeeelp> not sure what you mean by that
[19:01] <LennyJr> but it does it when not connected too
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin } Heeeeelp, run in the terminal fdisk -l
[19:01] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Did you not see my message?
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | Heeeeelp, run in the terminal fdisk -l
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> jhutchins, could easily be a wiped uefi setup, we should really find out.
[19:03] <jhutchins> wilee-nilee: If he installed grub to a partition it wouldn't work either.
[19:03] <Heeeeelp> no
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> right neither will the mbr, unless setup correctly
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> if uefi
[19:03] <Heeeeelp> i didnt insatll anything it wouldnt let me
[19:03] <shahin__> hi i'm not able to configure vpn
[19:03] <shahin__> any help
[19:03] <Heeeeelp> it asked and i pressed sda
[19:04] <Heeeeelp> then upon reboot all i got was a flashing line
[19:04] <powerranger> hi I?ve got a little trouble with anacron i added a backup script to run once every but now anacron starts at every bootup: Sep 27 20:43:13 Irondatagrave anacron[1270]: Will run job `cron.daily' in 3 min. and then again Sep 27 20:55:34 Irondatagrave anacron[1323]: Will run job `cron.daily' in 3 min. any ideas ?
[19:05] <shahin__> any help
[19:05] <jhutchins> powerranger: Where did you add this script?
[19:05] <LennyJr> it says src=then what looks like an IP then it says DST=then what looks like my IP
[19:05] <shahin__> any help
[19:05] <shahin__> ?
[19:05] <Heeeeelp> i typed fdisk -1 and it just returned
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, run the fdisk -l so we can see what is there refer to the bots info on pastebin for help.
[19:05] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: That's a lower-case L
[19:05] <Heeeeelp> i know
[19:06] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: for list.  Not one.
[19:06] <Heeeeelp> i know
[19:06] <Heeeeelp> i did
[19:06] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Well there's your problem, you don't have any hard disks!
[19:06] <powerranger> its in /etc/cron.daily/
[19:07] <Heeeeelp> i have a sda
[19:07] <powerranger> also my logwatch is sending me mails every bootup
[19:07] <shahin__> ?
[19:08] <jhutchins> Sometimes I don't see /msg windows for days.  In-channel works much better.  There are people here who know much more about current ubuntu than I do.
[19:08] <shahin__> help?
[19:08] <LennyJr> guess i need to learn how to fix broken packages then :(
[19:08] <Heeeeelp> this ubuntu thing is a hassel
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> shahin__, If someone knows they will answer, don't spam the channel with helps.
[19:08] <jhutchins> powerranger: The idea of anacron is that it can do "catch up" and run jobs that were scheduled to run when the system was down.
[19:09] <jhutchins> shahin__: We don't know how you tried to configure it, what you expected to happen, and what actually happened instead.  Try posting that.
[19:09] <Heeeeelp> how do i not have any hard rives... one is intalled
[19:09] <shahin__> thank u
[19:10] <shahin__> it says connection faild
[19:10] <grafdiffuzor> how to navigate pdf contents in evince 3.x?
[19:10] <shahin__> a'm trying configure kerio vpn
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, Open gparted take a screen shot and imagebin it.
[19:10] <mrrcp> kerio vpn?
[19:10] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Seriously, fdisk -l returns NOTHING?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | Heeeeelp
[19:11] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: As root, in a console.
[19:11] <Heeeeelp> i am not on that computer
[19:11] <LennyJr> so when i shutdown like that, it has some data not written to somewhere, in a buffer, breaking my internet config?
[19:11] <imthenachoman> hey guys. im confused about one thing with lirc. how do i find out ir receiver I have?
[19:11] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Please try what we've suggested then and come back when you have the answers.
[19:12] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: If you can't access that system it's going to be very difficult for us to help you.
[19:12] <grafdiffuzor> how to navigate pdf contents in evince 3.x? I mean seems like there's no f9 anymore
[19:12] <powerranger> my /var/spool/anacron/cron.daily says 20130927 so it should not run today but it does
[19:13] <shahin__> any idea?
[19:13] <Heeeeelp> have access but no internet and i have to keep switching mouses and keyboards so it take a while to do small tasks that you asks one at a time
[19:13] <jhutchins> shahin__: Are you trying to configure the server?  The client?  A connection?  Don't make us guess.
[19:14] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Have you read the install guide?
[19:14] <shahin__> i'm trying to configure a connection
[19:14] <shahin__> to connect to vpn server
[19:14] <powerranger> its 12.04 LTS fileserver headless running only when woken by WOL thats why i?m using anacron
[19:14] <Heeeeelp> yes it does not solve issues.. just how to install
[19:16] <powerranger> its was working until i added the backup script and maybe did sth. else but i?ve got no idea whats causing anacron to start cron daily at every bootup
[19:16] <LennyJr> one more thing, the var/log/kernel just changed while i was looking at it, i noticed the SRC=ip number changed after it warned me, is that normal?
[19:16] <Heeeeelp> 272107
[19:17] <shahin__> jhutchins i'm waiting?
[19:17] <jhutchins> powerranger: Did the daily  maintenance run before you shut the system down?
[19:18] <Heeeeelp> imagebin.org/272107
[19:18] <jhutchins> shahin__: We don't know how you tried to configure it, what you expected to happen, and what actually happened instead.  We don't know where you got the information to configure the connection, or if that was complete or not.  We don't know what kind of VPN you'
[19:19] <jhutchins> re trying to connect to.  You can't expect us to know these things unless you tell us.
[19:19]  * jhutchins goes for coffee.
[19:19] <shahin__> i've downloaded kerio connection package from software manager then installed it
[19:20] <powerranger> i guess so anacron started today at 02:00 i rebootet at 20:43 and anacron started again my cron.daily
[19:20] <shahin__> i'm going to pass filters websites
[19:20] <Heeeeelp> did the link work
[19:20] <shahin__> but i'm not able
[19:21] <powerranger> Sep 27 02:03:01 Irondatagrave anacron[13078]: Job `cron.daily' started
[19:21] <powerranger> Sep 27 02:08:45 Irondatagrave anacron[13078]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (mailing output)
[19:21] <powerranger> Sep 27 02:08:45 Irondatagrave anacron[13078]: Normal exit (1 job run)
[19:22] <powerranger> and 20 hours later: Sep 27 20:46:13 Irondatagrave anacron[1270]: Job `cron.daily' started
[19:22] <powerranger> (after reboot)
[19:24] <LennyJr> k bye
[19:24] <borphos-> exit
[19:27] <Heeeeelp> the security is all disabled
[19:28] <jhutchins> powerranger: Interesting.  It should have flagged completion from the nightly maintenance run and not run it again on reboot.  You might have a problem with your clock.
[19:28] <jhutchins> powerranger: Or there might be some other reason for that behavior.
[19:29] <zomgdocker> hello awesome people. does anyone know how to make a filesystem in one 'file' so i can mount it with LXC?
[19:29] <zomgdocker> and that i can afterwards just zip it up
[19:30] <ezra-s> zomgdocker, you an create an iso and mount it read-write, then unmount and zip, probably there are better ways
[19:30] <powerranger> the clock seems ok: just terminated and started again Sep 27 21:29:51 Irondatagrave anacron[6978]: Will run job `cron.daily' in 3 min. WTF ?
[19:30] <italian-cruncher> zomgdocker, you can use the dd command
[19:30] <zomgdocker> italian-cruncher dd?
[19:30] <zomgdocker> and than mkfs over it?
[19:31] <italian-cruncher> zomgdocker, exactly
[19:31] <zomgdocker> italian-cruncher: alright, so first dd and alocate x size and then mkfs and then mount it normally?
[19:31] <Heeeeelp> no no ideas on the bootloader or grub
[19:32] <italian-cruncher> zomgdocker, yes, this should work
[19:32] <moes> heeee
[19:32] <zomgdocker> italian-cruncher: ace. you are a star
[19:32] <italian-cruncher> zomgdocker, I know. cheers ;)
[19:33] <zomgdocker> Hahha. u are not by any chance hanging out in Tarifa, spain right? im here on holiday but couldnt stay away from my mac
[19:33] <Heeeeelp> how do i install bootloaded or grub after the installation
[19:33] <moes> Heeeeelp, Did you run fdisk -l and copy to pastebin
[19:34] <Heeeeelp> yes
[19:34] <Heeeeelp> posted a link earlier
[19:34] <Heeeeelp> 272107
[19:34] <italian-cruncher> zomgdocker, I'm not ;)
[19:34] <moes> Heeeeelp, need complete url
[19:34] <Heeeeelp> i opend gpartitioner and screen shot it
[19:35] <BlueProtoman> How come I can't run .jar files by double clicking on them, even after installing jarwrapper?
[19:35] <Heeeeelp> imagebin.org/272197
[19:35] <Calinou> BlueProtoman: what error message do you get?
[19:35] <powerranger> somehow anacron ignores my timestamps:
[19:35] <powerranger> Sep 27 21:33:35 Irondatagrave anacron[7127]: Updated timestamp for job `cron.daily' to 2013-09-27
[19:35] <powerranger> Sep 27 21:33:35 Irondatagrave anacron[7127]: Updated timestamp for job `cron.weekly' to 2013-09-27
[19:35] <powerranger> Sep 27 21:33:35 Irondatagrave anacron[7127]: Updated timestamp for job `cron.monthly' to 2013-09-27
[19:35] <powerranger> Sep 27 21:33:45 Irondatagrave anacron[7134]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2013-09-27
[19:35] <FloodBot1> powerranger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <powerranger> Sep 27 21:33:45 Irondatagrave anacron[7134]: Will run job `cron.daily' in 3 min.
[19:35] <Calinou> you may need to chmod +x the jar file
[19:35] <Calinou> what is +Z?
[19:35] <Calinou> +z*
[19:35] <italian-cruncher> BlueProtoman, if you right-click on them and check Properties, is the file marked as 'executable'? is the default app for opening set right?
[19:36] <jboii__> someone know bout a ftp application for ubuntu?
[19:36] <BlueProtoman> Calinou, None.  When I double click the jar, it just opens in Archive manager.  And italian-cruncher, yes, it's executable.  I ran "sudo chmod +x" on it.
[19:36] <Heeeeelp> imagebin.org/272107
[19:36] <jboii__> that is easy to use?
[19:36] <italian-cruncher> BlueProtoman, change the default app for it by using 'open with...'
[19:36] <BlueProtoman> italian-cruncher, the Java runtime doesn't even appear on the application list.
[19:36] <Calinou> BlueProtoman: right click > open with > java
[19:36] <italian-cruncher> BlueProtoman, does it work if you sue command line'
[19:36] <Calinou> alternatively: java -jar jarfile.jar
[19:36] <Calinou> in command line
[19:36] <BlueProtoman> italian-cruncher, Calinou, yes, it does work via command line.
[19:36] <Heeeeelp> the fdisk -l doesnt say anything... it just returns
[19:36] <smw94> usb_modeswitch not affecting my usb modem, anyhelp ?
[19:37] <Calinou> then use it
[19:37] <Calinou> make a .sh script ;)
[19:37] <BlueProtoman> Calinou, I don't want to.  It worked the way I wanted it to before I nuked my computer.
[19:37] <Calinou> it still works
[19:38] <italian-cruncher> BlueProtoman, the sh script is executable by double click, but I get your point
[19:38] <Calinou> normally, you can change default program for .jar files
[19:38] <Calinou> right click > open with > Other... > choose java
[19:38] <Calinou> and set it as default
[19:38] <italian-cruncher> he said that java doesn't show up in there...
[19:38] <BlueProtoman> Calinou, yes, but Java doesn't appear on the list.
[19:39] <italian-cruncher> BlueProtoman, did you install java from repos?
[19:39] <italian-cruncher> the openjdk?
[19:39] <BlueProtoman> italian-cruncher, yes, but I also installed Sun java via the PPA set up by WebUpd8.
[19:39] <italian-cruncher> if yes, then you have to search for 'OpenJDK' in that list
[19:39] <BlueProtoman> italian-cruncher, I know.  Still not there
[19:39] <havv> Can anyone help me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/350390/set-a-static-ip-to-lubuntu-on-virtualbox ? :(
[19:40] <JuneaGirl> Hi all
[19:40] <italian-cruncher> havv, is that your question?
[19:40] <italian-cruncher> BlueProtoman, tried to log off and in again?
[19:40] <havv> italian-cruncher: yes
[19:40] <BlueProtoman> italian-cruncher: Yes.
[19:40] <JuneaGirl> Wanting to get info on system backups and upgrades
[19:40] <italian-cruncher> JuneaGirl, just ask
[19:41] <italian-cruncher> havv, did you set up port forwarding in your router? you have to
[19:41] <mvk> i'm using 13.10, but screen dim does not work with FN -keys, i also tried xbacklight, and through setpci
[19:41] <mvk> non of it working
[19:41] <mvk> any tips?
[19:42] <italian-cruncher> BlueProtoman, are you using Ubuntu with Unity?
[19:42] <Calinou> mvk: ls /sys/class/backlight
[19:42] <Calinou> what does this give
[19:42] <BlueProtoman> italian-cruncher: No, GNOME 3.
[19:42] <mvk> Calinou: acpi_video0
[19:42] <italian-cruncher> BlueProtoman, so, Nautilus? did you use Nautilus when it used to work before you nuked your system?
[19:42] <havv> italian-cruncher: ummm no, it wasn't stated anywhere, can you refer me to what should I do exactly?
[19:42] <BlueProtoman> italian-cruncher: Yes, I did.
[19:43] <JuneaGirl> NEED to upgrade from current version IMMEDIATELY (running MAV), I only have 16gigs available on a physical drive. What options do I have for backup? (300gig main drive, 54 gigs of junk)
[19:43] <AdityaRaj> hi
[19:43] <AdityaRaj> can anyone suggest what kind of external drive is good for running ubuntu?
[19:43] <italian-cruncher> havv, google for 'how to set up port forwarding in router'
[19:43] <AdityaRaj> i cannot change the existing os on my laptop and want to run ubuntu on a stick?
[19:43] <Calinou> mvk: try this:
[19:44] <havv> italian-cruncher: yeah, but which port should I forward?
[19:44] <italian-cruncher> AdityaRaj, any drive will do as long as you can boot from it (depends on BIOS)
[19:44] <havv> italian-cruncher: O'
[19:44] <BlueProtoman> italian-cruncher: Also, Ubuntu 13.04.  Before and now.
[19:44] <Calinou> echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[19:44] <havv> italian-cruncher: I'm using bridged adapter, not NAT
[19:44] <AdityaRaj> italian-cruncher, i have been using a hdd which was great.. but then later i used a pen drive but the performance was quite poor in comparison any idea what might be the reason?
[19:45] <AdityaRaj> could it be the usb transfer rate supported by different devices ?
[19:45] <italian-cruncher> havv, http://www.howtogeek.com/122641/how-to-forward-ports-to-a-virtual-machine-and-use-it-as-a-server/
[19:45] <italian-cruncher> AdityaRaj, is the Hard disk USB2 or 3?
[19:45] <AdityaRaj> i am not sure.. i think the hdd is dead now that is why i need to use a pen drive now
[19:45] <Heeeeelp> How do I install a bootloaded or GRUB to a system to get ubuntu running after insatallation
[19:46] <JuneaGirl> hello
[19:46] <mvk> Calinou: it doesnt seem to change anything
[19:46] <italian-cruncher> AdityaRaj, hard disks are usually faster than USB sticks as far as i know
[19:46] <Calinou> :/
[19:46] <Heeeeelp> i posted my screenshot on imagebin.org/272107
[19:46] <AdityaRaj> italian-cruncher, ok
[19:46] <havv> italian-cruncher: it's relevant to NAT, I'm using a bridged adapter
[19:47] <AdityaRaj> italian-cruncher, i have made a bootable pen drive and it is running ubuntu on my laptop.. can i continue to just use that.. will i be able to store date while using it?
[19:47] <italian-cruncher> havv, did you check that you aren't using an IP already used on the network?
[19:48] <italian-cruncher> AdityaRaj, it depends on where you installed it. If you are running it as a live CD then no, it won't save anything unless you explicitly save files on another partition, but any changes to the OS will be lost if you are using it live (Live: just boot and no install)
[19:48] <havv> italian-cruncher: yeah
[19:49] <moes> Heeeeelp, That imagebin does not show a complete gparted image
[19:49] <Heeeeelp> how not
[19:49] <AdityaRaj> but while creating a startup disk i saw an option for specifying space for retaining data across boots, italian-cruncher  what is that for?
[19:50] <italian-cruncher> havv, is the gateway correct? tried with <IP_ADDRESS>?
[19:50] <italian-cruncher> AdityaRaj, if you did that then you are fine
[19:50] <havv> italian-cruncher: yeah, I copied it from ipconfig /all
[19:50] <AdityaRaj> italian-cruncher, should i be able to install softwares as well and not lose them across boots?
[19:50] <italian-cruncher> havv, seems like you will have better odds on askubuntu ;)
[19:51] <Siidis> upgrade questions!!n
[19:51] <Heeeeelp> what do you need in the picture
[19:51] <italian-cruncher> AdityaRaj, I don't really know, but you can try by installing a package or changing wallpaper, rebooting and seeing if changes are kept. so you can be 100% sure you had set it up correctly
[19:51] <AdityaRaj> yeah i am testing that out
[19:51] <moes> Heeeeelp, Partitions
[19:52] <AdityaRaj> i tried creating a file in documents folder in home directory and it remained there
[19:52] <AdityaRaj> not i am installing ruby
[19:52] <Heeeeelp> sda1 5 that all it shows me
[19:52] <AdityaRaj> lets see if it is still there after reboot
[19:52] <AdityaRaj> thanks italian-cruncher
[19:53] <Siidis> Want minimal backup before crucial upgrade. Only have 16G hd to play with. File compression, disk imaging, manual backup?? (300G system)
[19:53] <Heeeeelp> it shows dev/sda1,2,5
[19:53] <moes> Heeeeelp, But it should have info about paritions
[19:53] <havv> :(
[19:54] <Heeeeelp> i dont know how to get that info
[19:55] <john_jcteacher> Hello all - bcmwl had previously generated a blacklist-bcm43 file that I could comment out. Now however, it keeps updating itself so my comments don't stick around
[19:55] <john_jcteacher> is there a way to lock that file down or stop bcmwl?
[19:55] <italian-cruncher> Siidis, I'd manual backup all your data that sits on /home and just write a text file with a list of packages to be reinstalled if things go bad. Using such checklist a reinstall is a breeze. Nothing better comes to mind with such limited storage room
[19:56] <italian-cruncher> moes, for info about partitions just write sudo lsblk
[19:56] <italian-cruncher> in a terminal ofc
[19:56] <john_jcteacher> i'm in 12.04 lts
[19:57] <Siidis> italian-cruncher, is there a way to compress files that I want to keep to minimize the space it takes up on backup drive??
[19:57] <italian-cruncher> Siidis, ofc you can use compression, you are you really trying to backup 300 gigabytes into 16? noway
[19:59] <Siidis> Gotcha! No, but 30G of stuff I want to keep lol. Thanks <italian-cruncher>
[19:59] <moes> Heeeeelp, From ternminal  sudo lsblk and pastebin
[19:59] <italian-cruncher> Siidis, no compression can make 30G fit into 16 :) unless you store text files all made up with zeros
[19:59] <italian-cruncher> compression usually means getting 5-15% less usage
[20:00] <italian-cruncher> you can achieve 99% compression but not on 'real' data
[20:01] <Territoriojoven> what is jokey-backend?
[20:03] <italian-cruncher> Jockey is a tool for installing third-party hardware drivers.
[20:05] <giorgos> Good evening. I am trying to boot with linux version 3.5.0-41 but all I take is a "You need to load the kernel first" error... Could anyone help?
[20:06] <Heeeeelp> Imagebin.org/272109
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> giorgos: This a download of your own?
[20:07] <giorgos> wilee-nilee: No, through Update Manager
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> giorgos: thsi install till this update, was it a partial upgrade?
 did you see my imagebin linl
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> giorgos: sorry worked tiill thi.
[20:09] <giorgos> wilee-nilee: No
[20:09] <JohnVonNeumann> i get this message at restart:"continue to wait,press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[20:09] <kampiyo> HI
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> giorgos: no for 2 questions?
[20:09] <kingplusplus> please how do i use my ssh as VPN
[20:10] <giorgos> wilee-nilee: I dont understand your second one.
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> giorgos: has this install worked?
[20:10] <Heeeeelp> i couldnt put it in a pastebin only imagebin moes
[20:10] <giorgos> wilee-nilee: Of course
[20:12] <skinux> Curious, are files of tarballs (e.g. Firefox) meant to be placed in appropriate locations by users or are tarballs intended to be extracted to ~/Apps or /opt/<app> or similar?
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> giorgos: sometimes the update manager will offer a partial upgrade, not good to run is all, have you tried the previous kernel, might be a bad imstall.
[20:13] <moes> Heeeeelp, what ububuntu version
[20:13] <giorgos> wilee-nilee: Update Manager didn't prompted for partial upgrade. I am runnin' with the previous kernel now.
[20:13] <Heeeeelp> 12.04
[20:13] <moes> Heeeeelp, Did you burn to cd or dvd
[20:13] <Heeeeelp> dvd
[20:15] <moes> Heeeeelp, Did you md5sum your download before burn
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp: Try this app, save the url from the pophp when run to lost here if it does not set you up. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> popup*
[20:15] <kingplusplus> anyone one know how i can use my dedicated server as a VPN on my local computer... some command similar to ssh user@ip:port -D please i need the full command
[20:15] <Heeeeelp> md5sum?
[20:15] <kingplusplus> please anyone  know how i can use my dedicated server as a VPN on my local computer... some command similar to "ssh user@ip:port -D" please i need the full command
[20:16] <italian-cruncher> Heeeeelp, reboot again from CD and select 'verify CD'
[20:16] <Heeeeelp> i verified it with ubuntu already
[20:16] <Heeeeelp> said no errors
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> giorgos: On occaison a kernel is a bad install or is missing something.
[20:17] <u3> what is going on here
[20:17] <u3> who needs help
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> u3: this issuport on what ypu recognize,
[20:20] <giorgos> wilee-nilee: Thanks
[20:22] <MoPac> Hello; I have a question about the files in sources.list.d . I'm a bit confused about the meaning of extra copies of the repository files whose filenames end in ".distupgrade" or ".save". Could anyone shine a light for me?
[20:22] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody use a sony dualshock3 controller with ubuntu?
[20:24] <trism> MoPac: http://askubuntu.com/questions/82825/do-files-at-etc-apt-sources-list-d-need-to-have-an-extension-list
[20:25] <MoPac> trism: I've seen that page, but it doesn't really answer my question: what are they for? (And I don't think it mentioned the distupgrade versions)
[20:25] <Heeeeelp> i enteredc the boot repair sudo code and it says to check my internet access
[20:26] <moes> Heeeeelp, !md5sum
[20:26] <moes> md5sum
[20:27] <moes> !md5sum
[20:27] <blastermaster> hi everybody
[20:27] <trism> MoPac: I believe .save are created when you disable a source, and .distUpgrade are likely from upgrading between distributions, since ppas are automatically disabled (because they will likely cause issues with the upgrade)
[20:28] <trism> MoPac: the idea is that you don't want to delete the user's config, so you save them for later, even though they are currently ignored
[20:28] <blastermaster> I just finally install a variant of the easycap capturecards the one with the somagic chipset i got video no audio, but how to i record the video?
[20:28] <MoPac> trism: ah
[20:29] <Heeeeelp> at does !md5sum mean
[20:29] <Heeeeelp> i typed it into the terminal
[20:29] <MoPac> I'm trying to clean up my sources.list.d folder, since some of them seem to be unused or otherwise out of whack (old distro names in the filenames, need for some lines in the sources.list file to be files in sources.list.d ,etc)
[20:29] <trism> Heeeeelp: that just tells ubottu to display the message above about md5 sums
[20:30] <trism> MoPac: yeah you can delete those, I usually clean them up every few upgrades
[20:30] <Heeeeelp> i typed it and it says event not found
[20:31] <trism> Heeeeelp: you don't type !md5sum in the terminal, moes was sending you this link to read: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[20:31] <trism> Heeeeelp: see ubottu's message above
[20:34] <jhutchins> powerranger: Good work finding the problem.
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> if winXP to win8 allows any program to have total access to the file system, whey is run as admin an option?
[20:37] <[K]MagixKiller> hi all
[20:37] <[K]MagixKiller> does somebody knows how to auto-login to Q bot on Quakenet IRC servers with XChat plz?
[20:38] <g1rl1nt3rrupted> hello
[20:38] <Calinou> [K]MagixKiller: I did it on my desktop
[20:38] <Calinou> I think you need to add a command on log in
[20:38] <Heeeeelp> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[20:38] <Calinou> probably /msg <something> <something>
[20:38] <Calinou> /msg Q won't work
[20:38] <Heeeeelp> i am tired of ubuntu
[20:38] <Calinou> you need to use the exact hostname for some reason
[20:39] <[K]MagixKiller> I tried but no field to do that anywhere in the user interface
[20:39] <[K]MagixKiller> right?
[20:39] <Heeeeelp> if i cant get past installation how am i supposed to learn to use the whole program
[20:39] <faugusztin> [K]MagixKiller: X-Chat>Network List, find the network, Edit, Connect command
[20:40] <[K]MagixKiller> no "connect command" in the Edit network window :/
[20:40] <[K]MagixKiller> maybe my xchat version is out to date?
[20:40] <faugusztin> [K]MagixKiller: X-Chat or X-Chat Gnome ?
[20:40] <[K]MagixKiller> Gnome
[20:40] <g1rl1nt3rrupted> hello
[20:40] <[K]MagixKiller> but is there a difference?
[20:40] <[K]MagixKiller> Hello
[20:41] <g1rl1nt3rrupted> :
[20:41] <faugusztin> [K]MagixKiller: yes, there is, xchat-gnome is a "dumbed down" version of xchat
[20:41] <[K]MagixKiller> so what should I do? \o/
[20:41] <faugusztin> [K]MagixKiller: install xchat :)
[20:41] <[K]MagixKiller> from ubuntu repository?
[20:42] <faugusztin> [K]MagixKiller: yes, just apt-get install xchat xchat-indicator
[20:42] <italian-cruncher> faugusztin, just like the whole gnome, just sayin; )
[20:42] <[K]MagixKiller> ok thx faugusztin, cya soon then :)
[20:42] <faugusztin> [K]MagixKiller: it will look same, you will just get more options
[20:43] <dewdsen> hi all
[20:44] <Heeeeelp> can i get some private help for a couple of minutes. It would be VERY appreciated. I cannot solve this issue
[20:45] <gregor3005> hi, can anybody help with an ps3 sixaxis controller. i followed the guide but "sixad --start" does not find the controller and all controller led flashes. guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis
[20:45] <dewdsen> Trying to set up a lenovo G580 on precise, apparently there still is a bug regarding the power management. getting "0:02" as a charging time estimate, regardless of the current charge level on the battery. this leads to quick shutdowns when removing the ac cord ;) all the solutions i found pointed to replacing the battery indicator with an alternative, but none of them are supported on 13.04. I also tried upgrading to
[20:46] <[K]MagixKiller> Hi again :) yes it looks nicer
[20:47] <dewdsen> does anyone perhaps know a battery indicator alternative that is 13.04 compatible? i just need a workaround for workable battery estimates :-/
[20:48] <italian-cruncher> Heeeeelp, can you briefly re-state the problem?
[20:48] <Heeeeelp> can i Private you
[20:49] <italian-cruncher> Heeeeelp, you can private me but you have 1730x more chances of getting an answer if you just re-state the problem here, very briefly
[20:50] <Heeeeelp> I have checked my cd for errors already I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 and at the end of installation it gives me a GRUB bootloader issue
[20:51] <Heeeeelp> now when i load ubuntu my computer has a black screen whith a blinking bar
[20:51] <italian-cruncher> Heeeeelp, are you dual booting?
[20:51] <Heeeeelp> no
[20:51] <asdas> ggg
[20:51] <italian-cruncher> Heeeeelp, did you have multiple hard drives?
[20:52] <Heeeeelp> no
[20:52] <Heeeeelp> just one sata
[20:52] <italian-cruncher> Heeeeelp, did you set up manual partitioning or automatic one?
[20:52] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[20:53] <Heeeeelp> manual at first then I had it auto
[20:53] <JohnVonNeumann>  i get this message at restart:"continue to wait,press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[20:53] <Heeeeelp> let me check out that link real quick
[20:53] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: How old is this system?  What OS did it come with?
[20:53] <Heeeeelp> brand new
[20:53] <italian-cruncher> Heeeeelp, I don't think that link will help
[20:53] <Heeeeelp> i just built it
[20:54] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Did not come with an OS?
[20:54] <italian-cruncher> sounds like something went wrong during install
[20:54] <Heeeeelp> no
[20:54] <Heeeeelp> i built this computer from scratch
[20:54] <italian-cruncher> how big is the hard drive in total?
[20:54] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Do you know if it has UEFI?  Did the motherboard say anything like Windows 8 ready?
[20:54] <italian-cruncher> might be a GPT vs MBR issue
[20:55] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Actually, if you built it, what make and model motherboard?
[20:55] <Heeeeelp> i believ so
[20:55] <italian-cruncher> also size of the hard disk pz
[20:55] <Heeeeelp> 320gb
[20:55] <italian-cruncher> ok so its not a MBR vs GPT issue
[20:55] <italian-cruncher> Heeeeelp, can you boot that pc into a live machine
[20:55] <Heeeeelp> MSi
[20:55] <Heeeeelp> yes
[20:55] <italian-cruncher> I mean, start the live CD and have a terminal?
[20:56] <Heeeeelp> yes
[20:56] <italian-cruncher> do it and do a sudo lsblk
[20:56] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Which model too...
[20:56] <jhutchins> msi has made hundreds of different motherboards...
[20:56] <Heeeeelp> 970A-G46
[20:57] <Heeeeelp> i did and posted it earlier
[20:57] <dewdsen> Restated Issue: 13.04 Battery Charge Indicator on Lenovo G580 Notebook stays on "0:02" while charging via AC, leading to immediate shutdown after unplugging AC. Time estimate is incorrect and shown regardless of actual (higher) charge. Going to sleep, unplugging, waking <- is a workaround that gets me correct estimates. Any ideas on how to solve the issue?
[20:57] <jhutchins> It's uefi.
[20:58] <jhutchins> !uefi
[20:59] <Heeeeelp> let me look at that link
[21:00] <jhutchins> Heeeeelp: Item 5 under install might help, but I'd read the whole thing.
[21:02] <mmazing> i have a laptop with 12.04 on it, i've recently started using a secondary monitor when at the office, when i get home and am using a single display again, everything is all sorts of jacked up until i get in nvidia control panel and set it back to one screen
[21:03] <mmazing> well, it shows one screen anyway, but i have to save everything and reboot
[21:03] <tux3> hello guys im back
[21:03] <mmazing> hello tux3
[21:04] <mmazing> anyone else ever have any trouble switching between multi monitors and single display?
[21:04] <tux3> hi
[21:04] <tux3> mmazing nice to meet u
[21:04] <mmazing> i was thinking i could have two separate x.org conf files and switch them out before x starts
[21:05] <mmazing> nice to meet you as well
[21:05] <tux3> thanx
[21:05] <mmazing> i wonder if i could detect in /dev/ or something how many monitors are connected and replace xorg.conf with the correct one
[21:06] <tux3> where u come from?
[21:08] <ice_qb> "i wonder if i could detect in /dev/ or something..." Hi, you can try with lspci | grep VGA I guess
[21:08] <dinosaurvskitten> how can I get xlock on 13.04? The xlockmore package doesn't seem to exist anymore.
[21:09] <tux3> anyway i would like to how can i choose a good server to make upgrates for lubuntu
[21:09] <mmazing> ice_qb, i think that will only tell me how many video adapters are connected, not monitors
[21:10] <tux3> mmazing pls let me know as u can
[21:10] <faugusztin> mmazing: maybe you should play with xrandr ? i know these are examples for arch, but still, the point is the same: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr#Scripts
[21:11] <helpmeplease> hey guys, how do I stop a service on ubuntu 12.04?
[21:11] <faugusztin> mmazing: eample 2 i mean
[21:11] <mmazing> helpmeplease: sudo service <servicename> stop
[21:12] <mmazing> tux3: sorry im not sure what your question was
[21:12] <mmazing> faugusztin: thanks ill check it out
[21:12] <Heeeeelp> during the boot manager it says recv failed
[21:13] <hanner> hi, i am trying to install ubuntu using ubiquity, but it fails to install the bootloader. could an old GRUB from oneiric be the cause?
[21:13] <tux3> my question was about the lubuntu's update
[21:13] <dewdsen> issue: battery indicator completely inaccurate while charging on AC, doesn't anyone have any experience whatsoever regarding this issue?
[21:14] <JohnVonNeumann>  i get this message at restart:"continue to wait,press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[21:14] <tux3> mmazing: wich server can i set to make system's upgrade??
[21:15] <Heeeeelp> hey itialian cruncher
[21:15] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, you should tell us more
[21:15] <mmazing> tux3: i haven't used lubuntu, but i'm still not sure what you are trying to do, are you trying to update your install?
[21:16] <tux3> how can i update my installation?
[21:16] <italian-cruncher> tux3, update from what to what?
[21:16] <wylde> tux3: to the next release?
[21:16] <wylde> tux3: do-release-upgrade
[21:17] <tux3> ok i go to the release update?
[21:17] <ohnoesaltnick> i need a little help with ubuntu
[21:17] <italian-cruncher> tux3, next release isn't ready yet. when it will be ready you will receive a popup. don't upgrade now unless you know what you are doing
[21:17] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher: /sdb3 can't b mounted using disks which returns an error message, http://dpaste.com/1398347/
[21:17] <ohnoesaltnick> i am on ubuntu live, tried to click "Allow executing file as program"
[21:18] <ohnoesaltnick> everytime i click it unclicks
[21:18] <ohnoesaltnick> help!
[21:18] <tux3> ok so i will wait the next rease..?
[21:18] <Heeeeelp> hey italian cruncher-- boot repair not loading for me now
[21:18] <italian-cruncher> tux3, are you on ubuntu 13.04 and want 13.10 right?
[21:18] <tux3> release i mean
[21:18] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher:  here is the fstab line concerned :   /dev/disk/by-uuid/002d3ce8-abd5-436b-89aa-d03d9241604c /media/deepblue/002d3ce8-abd5-436b-89aa-d03d9241604c auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[21:18] <wylde> !upgrade | tux3
[21:18] <tux3> im on lubuntu 13
[21:18] <italian-cruncher> tux3, then yeah just wait two weeks
[21:19] <italian-cruncher> tux3, you can in theory already upgrade, but its not stable yet
[21:19] <ohnoesaltnick> italian-cruncher, can you help please?
[21:19] <tux3> ok italian-cruncher i will wait
[21:19] <tux3> but are u italian?
[21:19] <italian-cruncher> tux3, yeah. are you a tux?
[21:19] <italian-cruncher> ohnoesaltnick, can you use terminal?
[21:19] <ohnoesaltnick> yes
[21:20] <ohnoesaltnick> lemme open one
[21:20] <tux3> yah iim a tux from 1 year ago about
[21:20] <ohnoesaltnick> opened
[21:20] <italian-cruncher> ohnoesaltnick, try to get into the folder of the executable and execute it by typing its name and ./ before it without a space. like ./executable
[21:20] <ohnoesaltnick> should i use .jar at the end?
[21:21] <italian-cruncher> fullname
[21:21] <ohnoesaltnick> (because it is a jar)
[21:21] <italian-cruncher> use autocomplete
[21:21] <tux3> di dove sei italian-cruncher
[21:21] <hanner> is there a way to get more info from ubiquity? all i know is grub-install fails somehow..
[21:21] <italian-cruncher> ohnoesaltnick, actually, a jar requires another syntax, ./ is for binaries
[21:22] <ohnoesaltnick> then what do i use?
[21:22] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher:  /sdb3 is an ext4  fileststem with Antergos(Arch) in it
[21:22] <dewdsen> is dconf something like a successor to dconf? do they edit the same stuff?
[21:22] <italian-cruncher> ohnoesaltnick, try this http://www.java-forums.org/awt-swing/11673-executing-jar-double-click-style-linux.html
[21:23] <italian-cruncher> dewdsen, dconf == dconf
[21:23] <dewdsen> argh, i meant conf and dconf, sorry ;)
[21:23] <dewdsen> i found a possible solution to my battery woes
[21:23] <dewdsen> "gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/gnome-power-manager/general/use_time_for_policy false"
[21:23] <dewdsen> but its from 2010
[21:23] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, I am reading your fstab now
[21:24] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, the paste wasn't fstab, can you post fstab?
[21:26] <skinux> What exactly does this error mean? :  error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-glib-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:26] <Krustyklimber> hi... I was wondering if somebody can help me do a restore, I'm running 12.04
[21:26] <skinux> Maybe it is trying to tell me dbus-glib is somehow corrupt??
[21:26] <mobilemeyhem> If xchat doesn't seem to be running a gui but is running in the background. Does that mean I have problems?
[21:27] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher: here it is , http://dpaste.com/1398387/
[21:27] <italian-cruncher> mobilemeyhem, check tray
[21:27] <mobilemeyhem> Why would xchat have 5 processes running the sh command?
[21:27] <Krustyklimber> I tried using the back-up, but get an error
[21:29] <mobilemeyhem> I have 3 processes with the xchat logo running under the process name "sh"
[21:29] <mobilemeyhem> This looks very bad to me
[21:29] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, the fstab says that the / is sdb2... why you said Antergos is on sdb3?
[21:29] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, are you dualbooting with Ubuntu?
[21:30] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher:  yea
[21:30] <uli> what about 13.10
[21:30] <JohnVonNeumann> it
[21:31] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher:  trial booting
[21:31] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, I am trying to sort out your mess :)
[21:31] <twobitsprite> I'm trying to get a usb-to-serial adapter to work but I'm having some problems... do I need to install any packages (other than minicom) to get this to work?
[21:32] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher:  i also have windows7 in /sdb1
[21:32] <otak> italian-cruncher: is auto really an fstype, in the first 3 disk/by-uuids
[21:32] <Krustyklimber> can some one tell me how to boot to the restore function?
[21:32] <italian-cruncher> otak, isn't auto autodetect?
[21:33] <otak> i think auto is for automount in options
[21:33] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, so you have 1) sdb1 win7 2) sdb2 Ubuntu,  3) sdb3 Antergos, why is your ubuntu trying to mount Antergos partition? is it what you want?
[21:33] <Heeeeelp> i am having Terminal issues.... I type in sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair and it returns with recv failed
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, That computer have net access?
[21:34] <Heeeeelp> yes
[21:34] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher:  i wanna get lsdb3 mounted at startup at /media/My4Files
[21:35] <Heeeeelp> its plugged in and im searching the web
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, run sudo apt-get update, then that command
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, Live cd right?
[21:35] <jboii> hi
[21:36] <jboii> can someone help me with something?
[21:36] <Heeeeelp> yes
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> jboii, Maybe, state it.
[21:36] <italian-cruncher> jboii, yeah we answer things
[21:36] <jboii> i am tryin to make an ftp server with folders to show others
[21:37] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, can you re-check the uuid of lsdb3?
[21:37] <Heeeeelp> i typed that in and returned with nothing
[21:37] <Heeeeelp> then i added my code
[21:37] <Marlenee> how i run file name with space like 'nano readme imp'
[21:37] <jboii> i want to have a server up to show others how simple things can be
[21:37] <jboii> ftp
[21:37] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher:  i did ,it's correct
[21:37] <wylde> Marlenee: quote it "comm and" or escape it comm \and
[21:38] <mobilemeyhem> jboii: open ftp is a great product
[21:38] <mobilemeyhem> It's what I use
[21:38] <Krustyklimber> can anyone tell me how to boot to the black screen with the option to restore to the last running configuration?
[21:39] <Heeeeelp> ----o----
[21:39] <Krustyklimber> my computer was running fine last night, no internet today
[21:39] <Heeeeelp> no go
[21:39] <chet`> .seen rapt0rjezuz
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> Krustyklimber, There is not one in ubuntu
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> thats windows
[21:39] <jubale> How do I install 32b version of libdbus-glib-1.so.2 on a 64-bit machine?
[21:40] <Krustyklimber> lol it has opened to a similar screen before, when hard booted off
[21:40] <Viproz> Hi
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, You can download a iso with the boot repair on it. Did you buy this computer yourself?
[21:40] <Krustyklimber> I don't have windows... just ubuntu 12.04
[21:41] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher: i think there is something wrong with  /sdb3  line in fstab  bscause i tried 2 edit it
[21:41] <toshiba> friends..want to install mysql
[21:41] <toshiba> on ubuntu 13.04
[21:41] <Heeeeelp> i bought the part and built myself
[21:42] <David-A> Krustyklimber: there is a key to get a (grub) menu of which kernel to boot, (if a new kernel prohibits boot but an old kernel works (which problem I have never had))
[21:42] <toshiba> root@toshiba-Satellite-C640:~# sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[21:42] <toshiba> Reading package lists... Error!
[21:42] <toshiba> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[21:42] <toshiba> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_multiverse_i18n_Translation-en%5fIN
[21:42] <toshiba> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[21:42] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, I guessed it
[21:42] <Heeeeelp> i downloaded it but it is just the files
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, Have you answered whether this is a uefi computer setup?
[21:42] <Heeeeelp> does not load the actuall program
[21:42] <jboii> can you please link me to download?
[21:42] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, got it
[21:42] <jboii> open ftp?
[21:42] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, you have an error in that line, remove the auto,
[21:42] <Heeeeelp> no i am not sure i thought someone said it was
[21:42] <David-A> Krustyklimber: i think it is ESC but not sure
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, who is someone?
[21:43] <zykotick9> jboii: <ot> sidenote - ftp must die... </ot>  don't reply.
[21:43] <JohnVonNeumann> italian-cruncher:  and replace it with ..?
[21:43] <Viproz> I have trouble with Ubuntu, when I launch it, it have wird visual bugs
[21:43] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, just remove the auto, from that line, leaving all of it the way it is
[21:43] <Viproz> It is the first launch
[21:43] <Heeeeelp> yes it is uefi
[21:44] <italian-cruncher> JohnVonNeumann, the new line should look like this: /dev/disk/by-uuid/002d3ce8-abd5-436b-89aa-d03d9241604c /media/My4Files ext4 nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[21:44] <Krustyklimber> ok thanks David
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, Is the bios set to legacy and does the HD have a msdos partition table?
[21:44] <mmazing> xrandr didn't work for detecting monitors as i need to do it before x11 starts at all, anyone have any ideas for detecting how many monitors are connected before x starts ?
[21:44] <Heeeeelp> i have no idea
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> Heeeeelp, Those are key parts for the install, uefi is not really needed with ubuntu.
[21:46] <Krustyklimber> restore fails with an "unknown error" if I try to run it from the systems icon
[21:46] <faugusztin> mmazing: why do you need to do it before X starts ?
[21:47] <Heeeeelp> i hadubuntu do all the partitioning itself
[21:48] <Viproz> http://hpics.li/3d1f572 what shoud I do ?
[21:48] <italian-cruncher> Heeeeelp, do a re-install with manual partitioning and do 3 partitions, a swap area, a / area and a /home area
[21:50] <mmazing> faugusztin: i want to switch out my xorg.conf file before it starts
[21:50] <Krustyklimber> David-A now it's just stuck with a purple screen... didn't boot at all
[21:51] <faugusztin> mmazing: the point of xrandr stuff is that you don't need to have any xorg file at all, you just dynamically enable/disable displays according to what is detected via that script
[21:52] <wylde> Viproz: did you try unity --replace
[21:53] <Viproz> How do I do it ?
[21:53] <Viproz> I am totally new to linux
[21:53] <wylde> in terminal. If you can't get to terminal hit ctrl+alt+f2 login to the tty and do it there
[21:54] <Krustyklimber> ok now I'm in the recovery menu, any suggestions?
[21:54] <Guest61397> ?
[21:54] <jab416171> anyone ever seen this? http://i.imgur.com/EIhe4Ep.png
[21:55] <David-A> Krustyklimber: ESC may be used by bios to enter bios settings or its boot menu. check the bios and grub manuals to see what key it really is.
[21:55] <Guest61397> hi
[21:57] <jubale> I believe it's solved. Seems there were a few dbus-glib packages I needed to install.
[21:59] <Krustyklimber> I don't know how to do that David-A
[22:00] <niee> hi boys :) i follow this steb here =>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin, but after try to open http://localhost/phpmyadmin the browser download some text file (name: download))
[22:01] <ViaNocturna85> niee, do you have apache installed?
[22:02] <niee> how to chek?
[22:02] <niee> give me the command pls.
[22:02] <Krustyklimber> aww as usual I'm not smart enough to be helped... thanks anyways... still can't access the internet
[22:03] <niee> ViaNocturna85: http://pastebin.com/QYBnc2bx may be i have
[22:03] <ViaNocturna85> niee, hmmm you appear to, give me a moment
[22:04] <ViaNocturna85> niee, try this command: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[22:04] <dinosaurvskitten> welp, this is a wasteland
[22:04] <niee> oks
[22:05] <Arpad2> hello, I am stuck at low resolution, there is no driver installed. any help? thank you
[22:05] <Heeeeelp> im in bootloader now but i cant enter thecode into terminal
[22:06] <niee> ViaNocturna85: http://pastebin.com/gYqsSmW2 yes, now?
[22:06] <David-A> Krustyklimber: the manual for your bios should come with you computer, and should be available as a pdf on the manufacturers website. the manual for grub should be on a website too.
[22:06] <Heeeeelp> terminal does not exist it says
[22:06] <ViaNocturna85> niee, i would restart the server with sudo service apache2 restart
[22:06] <ViaNocturna85> niee, after that, see if it fixed it
[22:07] <ViaNocturna85> Arpad2, try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760 especially Step 2
[22:07] <italian-cruncher> Arpad2, nvidia?
[22:08] <niee> hmm ViaNocturna85 tnx :)
[22:08] <ViaNocturna85> niee, that work?
[22:08] <niee> may be this is fix the problem
[22:08] <niee> yes ViaNocturna85 :)
[22:08] <Arpad2> italian-cruncher: yes, nvidia-intel optimus laptop
[22:08] <ViaNocturna85> niee, when a php file downloads instead of displays it means php5 isnt running
[22:09] <italian-cruncher> Arpad2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia you should be able to do it graphically
[22:09] <ViaNocturna85> Arpad2, same as me, do you have bumblebee installed?
[22:10] <Arpad2> ViaNocturna85: I don't think I have it insy
[22:10] <Arpad2> talled
[22:10] <niee> ViaNocturna85: give me more info pls. my english is not good ]; need to install php5? or to create some file.
[22:11] <ViaNocturna85> Arpad2, its designed for optimus, first you need to add the ppa with this command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable
[22:11] <Arpad2> italian-cruncher: thank you, I look into that
[22:11] <ViaNocturna85> niee, the command I gave you set php5 up ;) it's now installed
[22:12] <Arpad2> ViaNocturna85: ok
[22:12] <Guest3831> Hello. I'm on an Ubuntu live cd and I'm trying to recover my data from a dying harddrive. I got a new one so I'm cloning it over with "(g)ddrescue -f -r 1 -v /dev/sda /dev/sdb clone.log". Thankfully it's going quite well and is nearly done with only 2 errors. What should I do after it finishes? I think it's possible to continue trying to recover the errors but from googling I'm having trouble working out the correct fl
[22:12] <Guest3831> ags. Should I just do the same thing again with -r -1 or are other flags needed. Sorry for the long post. Thank you.
[22:13] <ViaNocturna85> if you done that you use command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bumblebee primus (then restart)
[22:16] <axelm7> Just installed 13.10 on an AMD 64 x2 with nVidia 6300 video. nouveau is really screwing up the screen
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | axelm7
[22:17] <axelm7> wilee-nilee, so this channel is not for development versions?
[22:17] <David-A> Guest3831: if you have run it with retries you don't need to do it again, unless the recovery percentage is too low or a specific photo that you really want is still corrupted in the recovered copy
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> axelm7, you got it.
[22:18] <axelm7> what's the right channel for 13.10?
[22:18] <italian-cruncher> axelm7, type /join #ubuntu+1
[22:18] <SonikkuAmerica> axelm7: #ubuntu+1
[22:18] <axelm7> ok, thanks guys
[22:18] <David-A> Guest3831: but more than 1 or a few retries are unlikely to recover anything more, i think
[22:19] <Guest3831> David-A, well I'm going to leave my computer on overnight so I'd like to get as much back with ddrescue as I possibly can.
[22:19] <Guest3831> Thank you though.
[22:50] <DonMagus> http://magizian.freeshell.com    <- The Latest stuff               http://grex.org/~pan  <- pan-user linux shell
[22:52] <arayaq> Can I ask something related to Kernel 3.11 (Saucy install) here?
[22:53] <Tex_Nick> !saucy | arayaq
[22:54] <arayaq> Tex_Nick: thank you
[22:54] <Tex_Nick> arayaq: you're welcome ;-)
[22:56] <whoever> hi all , is there a keyboard shortcut to scroll the consol
[22:56] <whoever> oops
[22:56] <TJ-> Shift+PgUp/PgDn
[22:57] <praka> Hello does anybody knows how to reconfigure tilda console without open it?
[23:04] <praka> hello
[23:07] <ham1> hi
[23:21] <ghozt> :X
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> wow - a quiet friday night? ;)
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> my hd is brokeen heeeeelp me
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> get out the super clue
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> glue
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> ooohh a fruedian slip, lol
[23:32] <TJ-> Only quiet because we're busy fixing our own problems :) encrypted GRUB, anyone?
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> brb - got a staff meeting.. ;P
[23:37] <jmgk> hiya Dr_Willis
[23:39] <snayth> Is there a way move applets in the panel to the left or the right ? ? ~ Running 10.4LTS Lucid Gnome2
[23:41] <zykotick9> praka, <you've left> check ~/.config/tilda/ for the config file
[23:46] <Rory> !eol | snayth AFAIK there isn't without just using spacers
[23:55] <Vivekananda> hey everyone I have set the unity launcher to hide but it shows up and overlaps with the screen
[23:55] <Vivekananda> I dont want that behaviour
[23:55] <Vivekananda> how do I control it ?
[23:56] <kxtwo> hey guys I want to get the total size of all my home directory I was wondering how I could do that while I was IN my home directory?
[23:56] <snayth> Rory: Thanks, found the word "Move" in context menu.   It is the home folder of my old school and I was debating zipping everything up and getting it with sftp.  Just hpoing its not too big
[23:59] <kxtwo> nice du -s is actually faster, will have to remember that