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[22:53] <genii> I'm not sure what that tweet from Bob was about


[17:33] <a-i> hey all
[20:29] <phaidros> I am just wondering why a usb midi keyboard doesnt show up in the jack midi pane .. any ideas?
[20:48] <phaidros> k, found the answer in the forums
[20:48] <phaidros> now, being in qsynth and having midi keyboard conencted to it, I cant switch channels, so all I can play is the piano
[20:48] <phaidros> I have the channels button ,where I see lots of instruments, but how do I actually select one?
[20:58] <phaidros> holstein: any hint?
[21:06] <holstein> phaidros: hey
[21:06] <holstein> qsynth is just a front end
[21:06] <holstein> it depends on what you have loaded
[21:06] <holstein> if you are tyring to open an instrument, and get different sounds, i say start with yoshimi
[21:07] <holstein> or zynaddsufx (bascially yoshimi is the newer version of zyn)
[21:27] <phaidros> ah, greeat thanx!
[21:32] <phaidros> holstein: but yoshimi seems not to be able to load sf2 files. what use do the sf2 banks have in qsynth basically?
[22:49] <holstein> phaidros: yoshimi/zyn is *not* a soundfont player
[22:49] <holstein> it'll just do the sounds it does
[22:49] <holstein> feel free and ask in #opensourcemusicians about more MIDI sounds and synths
[22:49] <phaidros> holstein: yeah, good suggestion thanx!
[22:50] <pond> heh... I have centos 6.2 and installed Cinelerra (maxes out cpus), PiTiVi (won't start), LiVES (seems to work, but... evidently does not), and am installing OpenShot just for the heck of it... but my hopes aren't too high. lol... can anyone point me to a user review or blog on editing video on UbuntuStudio?
[22:50] <pond> ... I am thinking of changing distros...
[22:50] <holstein> phaidros: its the same software everywhere
[22:50] <holstein> likely the same versions
[22:51] <holstein> i wouldnt choose a distro to get a video editor
[22:51] <holstein> i would choose a base that works for you, that you like
[22:51] <holstein> ubuntustudio has a lot of these packages conviniently located on one place
[22:51] <holstein> and the 12.04 disc is live.. however, more geared for audio id say
[22:52] <holstein> not so say you need ubuntustudio to do video
[22:52] <pond> I see... well, is there something you would suggest for video?
[22:52] <holstein> you just install openshot, cinelerra, avidmeux, kden.. whatever you like.. and go for it
[22:52] <holstein> pond: openshot is a good one
[22:52] <pond> hehe... yeah I did...
[22:52] <holstein> maybe something in your config is borked
[22:52] <pond> ...evidently
[22:53] <pond> I am thinking that it is Centos...
[22:53] <holstein> sometimes i suggest firing up another user accoung if only for troubleshooting purposes
[22:53] <holstein> account*
[22:53] <pond> I use centos all the time for serving web sites... but... thought maybe it was just the wrong solution for video
[22:53] <holstein> if you use it, and understand it, and like it.. i say use it
[22:54] <holstein> maybe fedora would be a nice compromise
[22:54] <holstein> ubuntustudio or ubuntu are both quite capable, and i tend to stick with it fo the community and support
[22:54] <pond> I mean... I tried four vbideo editors so far... and I am good at doing installs (building rpms, source installs... I'm a good sysadmin)
[22:54] <holstein> lol
[22:54] <holstein> get back to me when you've tried 10+ :)
[22:54] <pond> yeah... I'm crying
[22:54] <holstein> and typically, i find i need tools from several
[22:55] <holstein> they are quite capable though
[22:55] <holstein> openshot is likely the newest, best supported
[22:55] <holstein> i liked kdenlive personally
[22:55] <pond> well.. i am installing that right now...
[22:55] <pond> knock on wook
[22:55] <pond> wood
[22:55] <holstein> eh... no need for wood
[22:55] <pond> have not tried kdenliven yet... seemed too simplistic
[22:56] <holstein> just install it.. if hte distro is not allowing you to get your work done, you might want to consider moving on
[22:56] <pond> anyway... thanks... I'll try a couple more
[22:56] <holstein> sure pond, anytime! :)
[22:56] <pond> yeah... I have never used linux on a desktop before... but want to make the switch... so...
[22:57] <holstein> ubuntu is a nice choice because thats what the goal is (or at least has been for years)
[22:57] <holstein> ubuntu is desktop linux, with a great community
[22:57] <holstein> if it works for you, it works for you though
[22:57] <holstein> im not trying to say one is better...
[22:57] <holstein> there are a few facts though
[22:58] <holstein> the community is large, and active
[22:58] <pond> well... I'll try this ubuntustudio and see what happens...
[22:58] <pond> wish me luch
[22:58] <holstein> and its made for desktop use
[22:58] <pond> luck
[22:58] <holstein> good luck!
[22:58] <pond> sweet
[22:58] <pond> tnx
[23:49] <phaidros> holstein: is it planned to get the non tools (non.tuxfamily.org) soon into ubuntustudio?
[23:53] <holstein> phaidros: should be in the default ubuntu repos
[23:53] <holstein> was last time i looked i thought
[23:53] <phaidros> orly?
[23:56] <phaidros> hm, my aptitude search doesnt find anything related to non
[23:56] <holstein> phaidros: they build easy
[23:56] <holstein> the easiest way to get them in is upstream debian
[23:56] <holstein> i thought they were... if not, theres likely a good reason
[23:57] <holstein> several folks in #opensourcemusicians were using non
[23:57] <holstein> i remember trying it
[23:57] <holstein> theres nothing about ubuntustudio that *wont* support non-stuff
[23:58] <holstein> i think it was the KXstudio ppa's
[23:58] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/+build/2093216 for example
[23:58] <holstein> i probably just apt-get installed it from that ppa