[00:01] <pwnguin> tjaalton: you have an opinion on backporting intrepid wacom to LTS?
[00:02] <pwnguin> or anyone else for that matter
[00:36] <pwnguin> well at least kees agrees with me
[00:37] <bryce> pwnguin: I at least wouldn't DISagree ;-)
[00:37] <pwnguin> cody-somerville: did you ever figure out the process on the other side of the socket?
[00:38] <cody-somerville> pwnguin, X
[00:38] <bryce> jcristau, tjaalton: cody and other xubuntu users are seeing a pretty widespread deadlock apparently triggered by a libxcb call in dbus-launch called from the xfce4 scripts.  fdo #16420
[00:38] <bryce> jcristau, tjaalton: I was hoping you might have some insights or debugging/workaround suggestions
[00:39] <pwnguin> cody-somerville: what's X up to at that point?
[00:39] <pwnguin> another select?
[00:40] <cody-somerville> pwnguin, X is wait4()
[00:41] <pwnguin> which arguments?
[00:42] <Q-FUNK> bryce: hiya
[00:42] <bryce> Q-FUNK: hi
[00:42] <cody-somerville> pwnguin, I'm not sure
[00:42] <bryce> Q-FUNK: btw I had a question on if we should remove the -amd source package in intrepid?
[00:42] <cody-somerville> pwnguin, it just said pwait4() in ...
[00:42] <cody-somerville> err
[00:42] <cody-somerville> from, not in
[00:43] <Q-FUNK> bryce: there's no amd source package.  we only have an -amd transitional package that is provided by -geode.
[00:43] <bryce> Q-FUNK: ah cool ok
[00:44] <Q-FUNK> bryce: to my knowledge, everything is now back to normal for Intrepid.  Hardy is what remains unresolved.
[00:45] <bryce> ok
[00:45] <Q-FUNK> and unless I'm mistaken, this dragged on long enough that we missed it for hardy.1 already.
[00:46] <bryce> yep
[00:47] <bryce> Q-FUNK: do you care to still try to get it in?
[00:47] <Q-FUNK> we have to. it's an LTS.
[00:47] <Q-FUNK> and geode is completely broken for the next 5 years, unless we act quickly
[00:47] <Q-FUNK> well... 3 to 5 years
[00:48] <bryce> why "quickly" if we've already missed .1 (which I think was effectively missed several weeks ago tbh)
[00:49] <Q-FUNK> I have sorf-of figured out a way to get hardy users to make this work, but most people are not reading my blog and will simply decide that what used to work in gutsy no longer works, so the hell with ubuntu
[00:49] <Q-FUNK> it's not for my lack of trying to push this SRU. I was on this issue since even before UDS.
[00:50] <cody-somerville> There will be another point release
[00:51] <Q-FUNK> cody-somerville: we all know this.  users won't wait that long.
[00:51] <Q-FUNK> they'll grab CD #2, install LTSP and notice that it doesn't work for them.
[00:52] <Q-FUNK> .1 was a golden opportunity to fix this right after the release.
[00:52] <Q-FUNK> again, those who are patient enough to google will find my two blog posts on the issue and could fix it.
[00:53] <cody-somerville> Don't feel bad. Xubuntu users can't login half the time with Hardy. :(
[00:53] <Q-FUNK> :(
[00:53] <Q-FUNK> http://q-funk.blogspot.com/2008/06/howto-make-geode-thin-clients-work-on.html
[00:53] <Q-FUNK> http://q-funk.blogspot.com/2008/06/howto-build-clean-ltsp-boot-image-that.html
[00:53] <cody-somerville> Q-FUNK, Is your blog on the planet?
[00:54] <Q-FUNK> no, since I'm not an Ubuntu member.
[00:54] <Q-FUNK> it's on the debian planet, though
[00:54] <Q-FUNK> or is an ubuntero a sufficient status to end up on the ubuntu planet?
[00:54] <cody-somerville> It is limited to Ubuntu Members.
[00:55] <cody-somerville> However, I'd be happy to blog about your blog :)
[00:55] <bryce> Q-FUNK: I wish we had taken the time at UDS to sit down and experiment with it.  When I asked about that you seemed pretty optimistic that everything was sorted out, so it's a shame we didn't just prove it and get everything finalized right there and then.
[00:56] <Q-FUNK> bryce: I really wanted us to sit with ogra and go over this.  ogra was taken 100% by intel sales reps and the rest of us were just jumping from one session to the next.
[00:56]  * cody-somerville thinks UDS should go back to being longer than a week.
[00:56] <Q-FUNK> cody-somerville: the sessions are too packed.  there should be plenty of slack between for people to actually hack on the issues they just discussed.
[00:57] <bryce> Q-FUNK: well if it makes you feel any better, I also feel bad.  I think I put in more energy for -amd during 8.04.1 than I did for any other driver, and I'm disappointed to hear no progress was made
[00:57] <bryce> anyway, /me -> lunch.  bbiab
[00:58] <Q-FUNK> bryce: the main issue that prevents 2.9.0-1-ubuntu2.1 from doing what it's intended is that pitti didn't like the idea of backporting the complete solution. he insisted on fitting the framework used for 2.8.0-7.
[00:59] <Q-FUNK> bryce: yes and it helpped a lot getting the issue heard by Steve and Martin for the SRU
[00:59] <Q-FUNK> bryce: unfortunately, there's too many bugd and too many SRU to audit, right after the .0 release, and with an UDS to conduct in the midst of it all.
[01:00] <pwnguin> i have to wonder if ubuntu really has the resources for SRU in practice
[01:00] <Q-FUNK> I think that the next UDS should be conducted after release+1.1 is done, in the future
[01:01] <Q-FUNK> pwnguin: it mostly does, but the fact that people who are empowered to review SRU are also canoncal employees going from one plane to the next for their next canonicla event doesn't make this easier.
[01:02] <Q-FUNK> the same problme happens at debian:  too few people are empowered to review and approve freeze exceptions.
[01:02] <pwnguin> well i mean, you said the problem was requiring backported patches
[01:03] <Q-FUNK> and those people usually happen to have several other hats to wear, so their time for any given item is really limitted.
[01:03] <pwnguin> its a hell of an effort
[01:03]  * cody-somerville nods.
[01:03] <Q-FUNK> not if the backport is done and sitting in someone's PPA for weeks.
[01:04] <Q-FUNK> at that point, all it requires is for someone to review and either ack or nack the backport.
[01:04] <pwnguin> are we talking about sru or backport here?
[01:04] <pwnguin> they're different things
[01:04] <Q-FUNK> both
[01:05] <Q-FUNK> new upstream and backported package of it from debian, with hardy-specific changes.
[01:06] <Q-FUNK> SRU for newly suported hardware and important fixes.  backport of the debian packaging, with small changes to compensate for e.g. older dpkg-dev in hardy.
[01:07] <pwnguin> in related news
[01:07] <pwnguin> i hate cvs
[01:07] <Q-FUNK> :)
[01:07] <Q-FUNK> CVS is showing its age.
[01:07] <pwnguin> whoever thought independent file versions made sense should be shot
[01:08] <Q-FUNK> it's a different philosohpy
[01:08] <Q-FUNK> commit-based, versus file verison based
[01:09] <pwnguin> well when im trying to see where upstream fixed wacom going crazy bugs
[01:09] <pwnguin> commit based is what i want
[01:09] <Q-FUNK> right, thta would be git
[01:09] <pwnguin> ssh
[01:09] <pwnguin> you mean bzr ;)
[01:10] <Q-FUNK> ouch
[01:10] <Q-FUNK> please gimme my cathedral back!
[01:11] <pwnguin> ive no allegience to either git or bzr
[01:11] <pwnguin> but theres a storm a comin
[01:11] <Q-FUNK> oho
[01:11] <Q-FUNK> cody-somerville: but, sure, if you wanna blog about the above two posts, please do so :)
[01:12] <cody-somerville> Q-FUNK, will do :)
[01:17] <bryce> back
[01:40] <cody-somerville> wb
[01:50] <bryce> cody-somerville: I don't know if I got all the deps straight, but I've put together a libx11 with xcb disabled for you.  I'm uploading the debs presently.
[01:52] <bryce> cody-somerville: they'll be appearing at http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/libx11/
[02:20] <pwnguin> anyone ever heard of a VTBook?
[02:23] <pwnguin> its this crazy video card on a PC card
[02:23] <pwnguin> someone in -laptop went asking about it
[02:31] <bryce> pwnguin: wild
[02:31] <pwnguin> http://www.villagetronic.com/ftp/vtbook/Linux/LinuxReadMe.html
[02:31] <pwnguin> you should forward that to canonical's OEM support salesmen ;)
[02:32] <bryce> pwnguin: ok, but why?  (I may be dense)
[02:32] <pwnguin> well, they clearly need help
[02:33] <pwnguin> the provided driver is a patch to the kernel
[02:34] <pwnguin> "    *  Fedora Core 1"
[02:34] <pwnguin>     * Suse 9.1 (Thanks to Gil Spencer for important help)
[02:35] <bryce> * No kernel patch needed for systems with Kernel 2.6.22 or later
[02:35] <bryce> but yeah that looks like a painful setup process
[02:35] <bryce> "    *  Kernel 2.6.10 or newer
[02:36] <bryce>     Edit the setup-bus.c file in linux-2.6.y/drivers/pci/.
[02:36] <bryce>     Locate the following definition: #define CARDBUS_MEM_SIZE (32*1024*1024)
[02:36] <bryce>     Replace it with the following:  #define CARDBUS_MEM_SIZE (128*1024*1024)"
[02:36] <pwnguin> im checking to see if that's actually in kernel.org right now
[02:36] <bryce> using the 'trident' driver
[02:37] <pwnguin> yea
[02:37]  * bryce loves OEMs that use gfx drivers he has little experience with
[02:37] <bryce> pwnguin: <wince> yeah I think I'll pass on showing this to the OEM folks ;-)
[02:38] <pwnguin> heh
[02:38] <bryce> although it wouldn't surprise me if with ubuntu it all "just worked" since we have a new enough kernel and it sounds like it works with stock trident and stuff
[02:39] <pwnguin> i dont own one but ive seen a couple reports of it not just working
[02:39] <pwnguin> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=fe0e5c4d947d34f10002b4cf272f0ebf110305b7
[02:40] <pwnguin> the commitlog is hilarious at least
[02:44] <bryce> cody-somerville: hey there's a reply from bart
[02:44]  * cody-somerville nods.
[02:50] <cody-somerville> :)
[02:51] <bryce> ok so like I said in the email I'm starting to think the disable-xcb option is sounding more like the direction we'll need to go, esp. given the mounting evidence and bart's confirmation this pretty much a known issue
[02:53] <bryce> hopefully over the weekend someone can verify the non-xcb libx11 package I did; if not I'll finish building a xubuntu test rig monday
[02:53] <bryce> I envision this will be a painful SRU though.
[02:53] <cody-somerville> Indeed.
[02:54] <cody-somerville> Can you send off an e-mail to ubuntu-devel and techboard to let them know whats up?
[02:54] <bryce> sure
[02:54] <bryce> why techboard?
[02:54] <cody-somerville> They're supposed to be notified of regressions
[02:54] <pwnguin> what?
[02:54] <pwnguin> regressions in what?
[02:55] <bryce> cody-somerville<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[02:57] <pwnguin> if techboard is the place to get attention about regressions
[02:57] <pwnguin> i have some email to send
[02:57] <cody-somerville><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:57] <bryce> cody-somerville: url for this policy?
[02:58] <cody-somerville> I'm not looking at it right now
[02:58] <cody-somerville> but I know they're supposed to be notified of serious regressions
[02:58] <cody-somerville> and all regressions introduced by SRUs
[03:00] <pwnguin> microrelease exception?
[03:01] <pwnguin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[03:01] <pwnguin> n the event of a regression, immediately notify the [WWW] Ubuntu Technical Board via email, and ask for help on #ubuntu-devel in making urgent contact with a member of the Board or the SRU team: state the problem, the bug number, and ping "slangasek, Riddell, Hobbsee, pitti, mdz, Keybuk, cjwatson, keescook, jdstrand, BenC, dendrobates, davidm". For SRU in universe/multiverse, contact the [WWW] Universe SRU Team team or ask for help on #ubuntu-motu in
[03:27] <bryce> ahh
[03:28] <bryce> that doesn't apply in this case - that's for if there is a huge regression due to an SRU release
[03:28] <bryce> I think that's so people can have a chance to pull the update from the mirrors before it goes out to everyone
[03:28] <bryce> in this case the issue is already fully deployed
[03:29] <cody-somerville> I think we should delay the point release
[03:38] <bryce> cody-somerville: ok I've emailed ubuntu-devel@; you can feel free to forward to techboard and/or request point release delayment as you see fit
[03:41] <bryce> to be honest, I'd prefer to see my libx11~noxcb package verified first.
[03:47] <cody-somerville> I'll be sure to test it after I get some sleep :]
[03:51] <bryce> ok, I'm done too.  have a nice weekend.


[09:45] <zxm-pi_> allo allo
[09:46] <Nafallo> indeed
[12:09] <daftykins> mid-week greets!
[12:11]  * zxm-pi_ hugs 2nd mug of tea
[12:12] <daftykins> did you take your little Psion to bed last night? :D
[12:16] <zxm-pi_> of course. now trying to reposition lights to save on using backlight in bed
[12:17] <daftykins> hehe when the daylight was gone, i noticed quite quickly how hard to use my one was, too
[12:17] <zxm-pi_> and find a safe spot where it won't be knocked, stood on or slip to the floor
[12:18] <daftykins> i saw a pretty fancy 5 or revo on ebay for all of £50, didn't even mention if it had an AC adapter though - slippery slope this :)
[12:18] <zxm-pi_> doesn't need much light. just a tiny amount to make the lcd do it's thing
[12:18] <zxm-pi_> psion hoarder. geek version of crazy cat lady :-P
[12:19] <daftykins> xD
[12:19] <zxm-pi_> i mean i listen to a few linux podcasts, some of those folk have an unhealthy number of thinkpads
[12:20] <zxm-pi_> i mean, below 10 and you're fine. but after that :-P
[12:21] <daftykins> haha
[12:21] <daftykins> i've been able to restrict myself to a single active at once! not the only laptop in the house mind you...
[12:22] <zxm-pi_> i can see future technology anonymous meetings... 'have you ever tweeted from your smartfridge?' :-P
[12:25] <daftykins> it's what you do whilst you wait for your smart kettle's firmware update to apply
[12:28]  * zxm-pi_ slides linux toaster out of sight...
[12:29] <daftykins> the day is definitely going to come when on my task list for visiting a client premises some day, toaster firmware update sneaks on
[12:30] <zxm-pi_> talkie toaster(tm)
[12:31] <daftykins> one of the VM's for my friends medical data analysis biz is named that :D
[12:31] <zxm-pi_> so you kill it often? :-P
[12:32] <daftykins> haha
[12:32] <daftykins> Kryten has to come and repair it
[12:34] <zxm-pi_> you'd think they'd licence a talkie toaster by now. every time you turn it on some quip from red dwarf
[12:35] <daftykins> :D
[12:35] <zxm-pi_> suspect it would sell a few
[12:36] <daftykins> i wonder if my pal still has his Mr. Flibble
[12:37] <zxm-pi_> the alternative is there is a mr. flibble lose out there...
[12:40] <daftykins> D:
[12:55] <daftykins> zxm-pi_: curious, what does your OS version show as if you use the menu / hit Psion+V from the home screen?
[12:55] <daftykins> 5.20F here on my 3c
[12:55] <zxm-pi_> 6.16f
[12:55] <daftykins> :O!
[12:55] <daftykins> did they add Guernsey? ;)
[12:56] <daftykins> just wrote a doc in the Word program, i forgot it lists the files below the icon for you :D
[12:56] <zxm-pi_> that /might/ be a 5mx version?
[12:56] <zxm-pi_> g.u.e *BEEP*
[12:56] <daftykins> haha just like my video
[12:57] <zxm-pi_> not even a channel islands
[12:57] <daftykins> nope :(
[12:57] <daftykins> thank Tux they don't have Jersey either
[12:58] <zxm-pi_> course, you could add a city for guernsey to get correct sun rise/set times
[12:59] <daftykins> ah yes in the World app
[13:00] <zxm-pi_> would do most of the work if not allow you to be proud of your nation
[13:00] <daftykins> oh my, just got an email that the local Hermes courier guy has my new PS/2 mouse and case fan to finish up the Dell PIII i've been working on :O
[13:01]  * zxm-pi_ ponders digging out my psion data archives to see what notes i have on ps/2 mice :-D
[13:02] <daftykins> wow it took about 20 seconds of thinking after i entered the lat and long, then saved the new place, to draw the results in 'World'
[13:03] <zxm-pi_> i wonder what it would have been like on my original 3a model :-)
[13:03] <daftykins> it says that versus London's sunrise of 4:39, ours is 4:55 ish... let's see how that compares
[13:03] <daftykins> "put the kettle on" ? :D
[13:04] <zxm-pi_> i seem to remember the psion had 3 ways to calculate sunset. military, civilain, one other?
[13:05] <daftykins> brb
[13:19] <daftykins> think it's not on daylight savings, hmm
[13:22] <daftykins> oops i may have accidentally renamed a Danish city
[13:24] <zxm-pi_> i don't think you'll be using your psion to look up dialling codes in denmark anytime soon :-P
[13:26] <daftykins> hang on my custom home marker seems to be blinking above India xD
[13:27] <zxm-pi_> someone mixed up lat long again? :-P
[13:28] <daftykins> nah, they were quite apparent on adding a city, since i had to swap east for west for one... but not sure what happened there
[13:28] <daftykins> it's having a really long and hard think about things now, as i just had to add a 1 hour offset from GMT to avoid summertime confusion
[13:30] <zxm-pi_> i always thought that psions way of doing summer time worked really well.
[13:46] <daftykins> ooooh i know what it's doing now
[13:47] <daftykins> i thought it was seizing, but it's offering me to manually place the marker
[13:47] <zxm-pi_> oh yeah i remember that now :-P
[13:47] <zxm-pi_> forgot that
[13:48] <daftykins> having the lat and long entered doesn't help its' starting point any
[14:37] <daftykins> zxm-pi_: PsiWin is being installed \o/
[14:39] <daftykins> link working \o/
[14:47] <zxm-pi_> huzzah
[14:48] <zxm-pi_> will wait a few weeks before getting a serial cable. just want to play with the psion first
[14:49] <daftykins> :)
[14:49] <daftykins> just converted my Word doc over to Word 6.0 format to read in Word 2000 (that's a lot of word)
[14:58] <Laney> bird
[15:01] <daftykins> :D
[15:01] <daftykins> "don't you know... about the bird?"
[17:44] <daftykins> https://www.bisi.gg/listing/64589/ww2-poundnote - cor


[02:42] <mwhudson> ibeardslee: hey
[02:43] <mwhudson> ibeardslee: do you know anything about updating the firmware for the x1 carbon gen3?
[02:43] <mwhudson> ibeardslee: official instructions seem to involve booting from a usb cd drive, which i don't have
[02:43] <mwhudson> but can probably track down
[02:52] <ibeardslee> you maybe able to turn the iso into a usb boot stick
[02:56] <mwhudson> yeah, i did find some stuff about that
[02:56] <mwhudson> don't particularly want to brick my laptop though :)
[02:56] <mwhudson> ibeardslee: i guess this means you guys haven't done this?
[02:57] <lifeless> mwhudson: could you netboot it ?
[02:57] <mwhudson> hm, good question
[02:57] <lifeless> may not help depending on whats on the iso, but thought I'd put it out there
[02:58] <lifeless> mwhudson: failing that, I can loan you a usb drive
[02:58] <ibeardslee> mwhudson: no we haven't.  But something we'll be looking at in the nearish future.
[02:58] <mwhudson> lifeless: i'm pretty sure i'll be able to find a more local one, but thanks
[02:58] <lifeless> mwhudson: :)
[02:58] <ibeardslee> I now have a 'minion' for doing our desktop support.
[02:58] <lifeless> ibeardslee: Are they yellow?
[02:58] <mwhudson> ibeardslee: congrats
[02:58] <ibeardslee> no
[02:58] <ibeardslee> thanks
[03:42]  * mwhudson spots lifeless on debian-devel
[03:58] <lifeless> mwhudson: the list? yes
[03:58] <mwhudson> yeah
[03:58] <lifeless> thoughts?
[03:58] <mwhudson> i find neil to be one of those people i almost viscerally disagree with on any topic, which is probably more my problem than his
[03:59] <mwhudson> however, i think i agree with you and paul here :-)
[03:59] <lifeless> :)


[03:55] <seiya5> hello guys i had a quick question. i want to go back into linux as my main os. but i use a lot of graphic design sofware.
[03:55] <seiya5> recently i saw that wine has done a great job at porting illustrator, photoshop and indesign. i wondered if it was best to use ubunut studio or stay with the main ubunutu release for this
[23:17] <fonso> Hello there
[23:17] <fonso> May I ask a question:
[23:20] <fonso> I have an OLD Celeron 2.7Ghz 768 RAM and I must ask if there is any Ubuntu Studio distro that accept this configuration, even if is an old distro, not 14.10 or something like that. And does it is recommended? Or I must try an distro different like Dream Studio? thanks :)
[23:27] <Unit193> Does it support PAE?  You could put 14.04 on it, LTS and all.  That's not a lot of ram to work with, but otherwise shouldn't be too bad.
[23:31] <fonso> I don't know, but seems like the 14.04 need only 768... Otherwise, I will install an little older version just to guarantee... Thanks :)
[23:35] <fonso> i will keep searching... But thanks a lot. Bye.
[23:46] <nemo5> hello ubuntu studio community
[23:47] <nemo5> id like a little help if possible. so im looking for memory efficient ubuntu flavor that will run wine to put illustrator cc
[23:47] <nemo5> im debating between lubuntu and studio


[08:24] <lissyx> hello
[08:24] <lissyx> bandali, what is still blocking for NativeMessaging patch?
[08:25] <bittin> hey
[08:25] <bittin> https://nikkasystems.com/2023/11/17/podd-224-doxing-me-doxing-you/ watching todays Bli Säker Podden before i need to head to work and update Linux Mint and reinstall Windows 10
[09:34] <seb128> goood morning IRC!
[09:58] <lissyx> seb128, hello
[09:58] <seb128> lissyx, hey, how are you doing?
[09:58] <lissyx> seb128, any experience in python to use snapd?
[09:58] <seb128> lissyx, not really, just querying the store
[09:59] <seb128> why?
[10:02] <lissyx> I'd need to perform snap install steps from python :(
[10:07] <seb128> lissyx, os.system()? ;)
[10:07] <lissyx> yeah well ...
[10:07] <lissyx> problem is that we then need sudo
[10:07] <lissyx> and so constantly having to input password
[10:14] <seb129> lissyx, shouldn't be specific to python though but rather to the user starting the command, you would have the same problem in shell
[10:15] <seb129> lissyx, I don't know the specific of your setup but you could add a polkit override to allow your user to install snaps without prompting for a password
[10:17] <lissyx> seb128, that seems risky to ask to people
[10:17] <lissyx> seb128, context is: mozregression support for snap packages
[10:19] <seb128> lissyx, can't you just tell people to run sudo mozregression?
[10:19] <seb128> for the snap case at least
[10:19] <lissyx> I dont think it's a good practice, and it will also trigger "snap run" under sudo, which firefox will refuse
[10:20] <seb128> and if you os.system sudo , aren't the credential active for a while like with normal sudo?
[10:20] <seb128> or is each call having a different env that makes it prompt again?
[10:21] <lissyx> no they are not
[10:27] <seb128> :-(
[11:15] <ricotz> hello desktopers :)
[11:16] <ricotz> bandali, hello, I see you are rebuild rustc in the ubuntu-mozilla-security ppa, please do the same for all available series, those updates will be needed for thunderbird at some point
[11:23] <ricotz> seb128, hi :), would you sponsor a prepared thunderbird 115.4.3?
[11:23] <seb128> ricotz, hey, sure!
[11:23] <ricotz> although a 115.5.0 might be around the corner
[11:24] <seb128> we have no hurry to update noble, it's early in the cycle, I would be fine waiting for 115.5.0
[11:25] <ricotz> I see, but there are a bunch of bug fixes still
[11:25] <ricotz> I will prepare one and let you decide
[11:31] <ricotz> seb128, https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/thunderbird/
[11:39] <ricotz> (git branch is locally prepared)
[12:22] <seb128> ricotz, uploaded, feel free to push the vcs
[12:32] <ricotz> seb128, thanks and done
[12:33] <seb128> ricotz, thanks!
[19:56] <lissyx> seb128, I was wrong, sudo works


[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148311 in subtitleeditor (universe) "subtitle editor can't generate waveforms from ogg files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148311
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148313 in gnome-panel (main) "Vncviewer focus problem when use compiz" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148313
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148314 in ubuntu "Xorg crash with ATI Radeon 7200" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148314
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148315 in pidgin (main) "Pidgin can't receive files on YM protocol" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148315
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148316 in ubuntu "[6.06.1]  netboot installer fails when using local cdrom-based repository" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148316
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148317 in ubuntu "[7.10-beta]  netboot installer fails to recognize e100 & 3c59x network cards" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148317
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148318 in mythbuntu-control-centre (universe) "m-c-c opens terminal as root" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148318
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148320 in ubuntu "When PCMCIA/WIFI is inserted during boot,boot stops when openbsd ist aktivated" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148320
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148321 in network-manager (main) "[gutsy]  Random crashes on wireless assocation." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148321
[12:57] <gnomefreak> mvo: is command-not-found one of your packages by chance?
[12:58] <mvo> gnomefreak: yes
[12:58] <gnomefreak> cd is a command :(
[12:58] <gnomefreak> it KABOOMEd
[12:58] <mvo> hu?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/Music$ cd
[12:58] <gnomefreak> KABOOOM!!!
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Whoops, command-not-found has crashed!
[12:58] <gnomefreak> and gives a useless traceback from what i can tell
[12:58] <mvo> what shell?
[12:59] <mvo> could you pastebin the stacktrace please?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> bash
[12:59] <mvo> strange
[12:59] <mvo> 0$ type cd
[12:59] <mvo> cd is a shell builtin
[01:00] <mvo> what does this command give you?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/567/
[01:00] <gnomefreak> thats what it gave me
[01:00] <gnomefreak> and curser is just blinking without a prompt
[01:01] <mvo> thanks, that looks like something in the install of the pkg is broken :/
[01:02] <gnomefreak> it was updated yesterday sometime iirc but that was first time ive ever seen that
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148323 in ubuntu "Doesn't detect Acer AL2216W monitor" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148323
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148324 in xine-lib (main) "xine crashes with "Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148324
[01:07] <gnomefreak> mvo: you want me to file a bug or are you gonna take care of it when you get there :)
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148325 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Certain processes show incorrect memory usage" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148325
[01:17] <ubotu> New bug: #148329 in cheese (universe) "cheese crashed with SIGSEGV in gst_value_init_and_copy()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148329
[01:18] <mvo> gnomefreak: well, the fact that command-not-found is called is because "cd.." is not something the shell understands, "cd .." is (note the space in between)
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148331 in debian-installer (main) "Separate /etc partition on raid1+lvm fails to boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148331
[01:23] <zul> bug #133636
[01:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133636 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[gutsy]  hdaps module does not load on Thinkpad T61P" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133636
[01:24] <zul> #145877
[01:24] <zul> bug #145877
[01:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 145877 in linux-source-2.6.22 "hdaps doesn't work on Thinkpad R61" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145877
[01:27] <zul> R61 has already been added
[01:28] <zul> gah thats annoying
[01:28] <zul> "You are not the bug assignee nor the maintainer of linux-source-2.6.22 (Ubuntu), and therefore cannot edit this bug's status."
[01:29] <bdmurray> Fix Released is it?
[01:29] <zul> in progress actually
[01:30] <zul> uh nevermind
[01:30] <bdmurray> Okay
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148333 in cupsys (main) "hp backend doesn't work with HP OfficeJet 5610" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148333
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148334 in kdegraphics (main) "kpdf prints links with red borders" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148334
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ah mvo sorry missed that part
[01:33] <mvo> gnomefreak: yeah, it should still not fail like this, that is really bad (tm)
[01:33] <mvo> gnomefreak: could you please check with synaptic if you have any borken packages?
[01:34] <mvo> it looks like a pycentral issue to me, a "apt-get install --reinstall command-not-found" may be enough
[01:34] <gnomefreak> checking
[01:34] <mvo> the correct behaviour would be to just output that cd.. is not found
[01:34] <gnomefreak> no i dont have broken packages
[01:35] <gnomefreak> reinstalling it
[01:35] <gnomefreak> assuming cd.. will give it to me again
[01:36] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Gutsy:~$ cd..
[01:36] <gnomefreak> bash: cd..: command not found
[01:36] <mvo> ok
[01:36] <mvo> that would be a bug in python-central then
[01:36] <gnomefreak> i cant reproduce it at this time
[01:36] <mvo> gnomefreak: do you have a file in /var/log/apt/term.log that contains command-not-found (from before the --reinstall)?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> its empty
[01:37] <gnomefreak> nvm i needed sudo
[01:39] <gnomefreak> mvo: just updates
[01:40] <gnomefreak> yeah just updates than the reinstall log
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148339 in update-manager (main) "installArchives() failed in AMD64 Xbuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148339
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148337 in pidgin (main) "gutsy regression: pidgin no longer connects to "bonjour" " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148337
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148341 in ubiquity (main) "run ubiquity without starting full desktop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148341
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148344 in yelp (main) "Not a valid bug- testing report a problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148344
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148346 in slocate (main) "slocate 3.1-1ubuntu2 doesn't install due to dependencies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148346
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148347 in ubuntu "<Shift>+<keys> does not work when creating a folder at Ubuntu 7.10 beta" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148347
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148350 in ubuntu "OEM install on ubuntu live cd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148350
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148351 in ubuntu "Rhythmbox Crackles, Totem Movie player does not" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148351
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148352 in desktop-effects (main) "desktop-effects and dual-head are incompatible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148352
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148353 in gdm (main) "gdmgreeter crashes when screen depth is 8 bpp" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148353
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148354 in xmltv (universe) "Merge new debian version/upstream release" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148354
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148362 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "top smtp server in list is always used regardless of default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148362
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148363 in ubiquity (main) "migration-assistant has a bad dialogue" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148363
[04:12] <jjesse> so many kubuntu bugs still not assigned to a package :(
[04:13] <bddebian> So get to work ;-)
[04:14] <Hobbsee> jjesse: but those that are dont tned to get anything done with them either, so...
[04:14] <jjesse> bddebian: thansk:)  i already am
[04:14] <bddebian> :-)
[04:14] <jjesse> Hobbsee: so what to do then???
[04:14] <jjesse> is it pointless to assign the a package?
[04:14] <Hobbsee> jjesse: file everything relevant upstream.
[04:15] <Hobbsee> jjesse: and fix those that are packaging bugs.
[04:15] <Hobbsee> jjesse: the trouble is that most of it should be upstream, but isnt
[04:15] <Mblackwell> bug 148262
[04:15] <ubotu> Bug 148262 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/148262 is private
[04:16] <Mblackwell> Fun bug, can't add torrents since the python update
[04:16] <Mblackwell> except with the non-repository version of deluge
[04:19] <Mblackwell> Hobbsee: still no one looking at bug 147464, but I haven't been able to narrow down the problem either to help. And for all I know with various networking updates and a kernel update who knows
[04:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 147464 in nfs-utils "Heavy network activity (eg: torrent/nfs file transfers) causes Hard System Locks and/or Network Freezes." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/147464
[04:19] <Mblackwell> it could be amazingly suddenly fixed, and thus the attempts to crash my computer continue
[04:21] <Hobbsee> Mblackwell: wouldnt surprise me.
[04:22] <Hobbsee> jjesse: anything that's a crash, or that doesnt look distro-specific should go up
[04:22] <Mblackwell> RAOF and bdmurray were the only ones with suggestions, which didn't pan out
[04:22] <Mblackwell> so I'm at a loss except what I've already posted from various tests
[04:23] <Hobbsee> yay, deluge.
[04:23] <Mblackwell> Oh, you read the bug I posted on that? Heh.
[04:24] <Mblackwell> Fun stuff
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #148262 in deluge-torrent (universe) "deluge crashed with AttributeError in add_torrent_ns()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148262
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #148369 in cups-pdf (main) "package cups-pdf 2.4.6-3ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus post-installation script a retourn? une erreur de sortie d'?tat 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148369
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148370 in python2.5 (main) "Python crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148370
[04:38] <Mblackwell> Hobbsee: What's the deal with new application updates suddenly using any old icon size they like on the notification tray?
[04:39] <Mblackwell> some use scaling icons, others use misc icons around 16x16-22x22 ... shouldn't there be one standard size, or a way to force the size?
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Mblackwell: idk
[04:40] <Mblackwell> There was in edgy and feisty for the most part but then suddenly coming up on Gutsy it's kind of a mess
[04:40] <Mblackwell> obviously it's not entirely ubuntu's fault though, since for example pidgin switched to scaling months ago
[04:43] <Mblackwell> Most people wouldn't notice, but I have my notification tray on a large panel (so things were identified as/by the smaller icons on a large launcher panel)
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148371 in openoffice.org (main) "Exit with Open Office breaking down, After Palying PPTs." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148371
[04:57] <ubotu> New bug: #148372 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Tiny grammar issue" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148372
[05:02] <ubotu> New bug: #148373 in gnome-panel (main) "crash during step 6 of 7 installing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148373
[05:02] <ubotu> New bug: #148374 in python2.4 (main) "python mini crashed on startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148374
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148375 in meta-j2re1.4-mozilla (multiverse) "j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin won't install the plugin in firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148375
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148376 in freeradius (universe) "Please add/create freeradius-postgresql" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148376
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148378 in ubuntu "Feisty upgrade: dependency problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148378
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148379 in strigi (main) "Kill running strigidaemon process on package remove" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148379
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148380 in gimp (main) "Zooming to 150% makes image transparent.  New package please" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148380
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148381 in mozilla-firefox (main) "right-click menu closes and selects items when it can't fit below mouse pointer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148381
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148382 in restricted-manager (restricted) "fsck failed at start after upgradeing to Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148382
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148384 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "installation of the nvidia restricted kernel module failed on my kubuntu adm64 system" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148384
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148385 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Intel graphics card: Blank screen when attempting to watch movies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148385
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148387 in ubuntu "Error message when burning a DVD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148387
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148389 in ubuntu "Intel graphics turn black (kind of) (Gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148389
[06:29] <macogw> there are a lot of breezy bugs still marked new.  i'm thinking closing them would make sense since it's unsupported and obviously won't get fixed.  does that make sense to anyone else?
[06:38] <ScottK> macogw: As long as they don't also apply to Dapper, yes.
[06:38] <ScottK> macogw: You aren't the first to look into this, so think it through before changing stuff.
[06:41] <bdmurray> macogw: Ideally if there is enough information you would try to reproduce it with a current release
[06:42] <bdmurray> We could really use helping looking at all the new Gutsy bug reports though.
[06:43] <macogw> i just reported a bug on gutsy that i wish i had more info for but i dont think i know enough about um..anything...to triage much
[06:44] <bdmurray> macogw: what bug is that?
[06:45] <bdmurray> We also have somewhat detailed instructions about gathering information in the wiki
[06:45] <macogw> bug #148389
[06:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 148389 in ubuntu "Intel graphics turn black (kind of) (Gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148389
[06:48] <macogw> so if i can confirm that a bug from breezy still exists in gutsy, what should i do? there should be some way to mark that it's not a leftover that no one bothered do anything to and that it is still valid
[06:49] <bdmurray> Update the bug report with the package version that you were able to reproduce the bug report with - you can find this out via 'dpkg -l $package_name | cat'
[06:49] <bdmurray> And update the "summary" / "title" if it says Breezy in it
[06:51] <bdmurray> is there anyway you can take a screenshot or picture of your bug macogw?
[06:51] <bdmurray> That would help
[06:52] <macogw> so i should change on "bug description" where they said it was with breezy colony 3?
[06:52] <bdmurray> Maybe append it to the description
[06:52] <macogw> bdmurray: i could use my camera and do it later (i'm in the library using wireless because the school has deemed my computer compromised and on a botnet...when i'm running a perfectly up-to-date gutsy)
[06:52] <bdmurray> heh
[06:53] <macogw> that confused them
[06:53] <bdmurray> That and the full output of 'sudo lspci -vvnn' would be helpful
[06:53] <bdmurray> That's alright other operating systems confuse me. ;)
[06:53] <macogw> "i'm using linux" "oh. what version?" "ubuntu development, fully up to date" "when did you last update" "last night" "oh"
[06:54] <macogw> heh all i could say to my roommate's windows issue today was "um...reboot? i dont know, it's windows!"
[06:56] <bdmurray> I'll be back in a bit if you have any more questions
[06:56] <macogw> kk
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148395 in ubuntu "7.10 shutdown then screen corrupts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148395
[07:01] <macd> is there a way to load a gnome applet to get a stack trace?
[07:02] <RAOF> macd: You should be able to just attach gdb to the running process?
[07:02] <RAOF> As detailed on wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash , I think.
[07:02] <macd> It dies before it even gets onto the panel
[07:02] <macd> I'll take a peek at that
[07:03] <RAOF> Ah, that's a problem then :)
[07:03] <RAOF> Doesn't apport handle the backtracing, though?
[07:03] <lifeless> yes
[07:04] <lifeless> as long as apport is enabled and the app is not in a homedir
[07:04] <RAOF> lifeless: Doesn't it need to be in /usr, not just !$HOME?
[07:04] <lifeless> RAOF: I was being pithy
[07:05] <RAOF> Heh.
[07:05] <lifeless> RAOF: and /bin and /sbin should be supported
[07:05] <RAOF> Also, hi.
[07:05] <lifeless> so its not must be /usr AFAIK :)
[07:05] <lifeless> indeed, hi
[07:05] <macogw> /usr/local/ is likely ignored, right?
[07:05] <macd> apport doesnt seem to be catching it
[07:05] <macd> let me verify where the applet is, and if apport is runnign
[07:06] <lifeless> macd: are you running a local build, or from an installed deb ?
[07:06] <macd> its deskbar-applet from feisty.
[07:07] <macogw> ooo mine keeps saying it's crashed, according to apport too
[07:07] <macogw> it keeps working fine though
[07:07] <macogw> *shrug*
[07:08] <macd> ohh, mine disappears
[07:09] <macogw> if a user reports that something doesnt work on a feisty kernel, then replies to their own bug report saying it works on gutsy, can that just be marked "fixed released"?
[07:10] <macogw> or does something else have to happen?
[07:11] <Hobbsee> macogw: mark it as fix released, as it's fixed in gutsy
[07:11] <macogw> ok
[07:11] <macd> ah by running apport-gtk it grabs the last crash
[07:12] <bdmurray> approt crash reports on Feisty are not reported on purpose
[07:15] <macd> yeah, that makes sense, does feisty support outside of security updates/bugs stop with gutsy release?
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148396 in gnome-main-menu (universe) "[gutsy]  No System->Add/Remove item anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148396
[07:16] <Hobbsee> macd: stops with feisty release, actually
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148397 in vlan (main) "The network card doesnt work at vlan mode kernel 2.6.22-12-generic " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148397
[07:16] <Hobbsee> !timebasedreleases
[07:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[07:17] <macd> so after a release, bugs no longer get fixed?
[07:18] <macd> that sounds kind of, uhhh odd
[07:18] <Hobbsee> some get done as SRU's.
[07:18] <Hobbsee> macd: depends how risky they are - they can introduce more bugs, etc.
[07:18] <Hobbsee> macd: and the development team really isnt that big.
[07:18] <Hobbsee> in terms of active people
[07:18] <Hobbsee> so almost everyone works on teh development release
[07:19] <Hobbsee> macd: but have a read of that second link, it's quite interesting
[07:20] <macd> ty
[07:21] <Hobbsee> macd: of course, if we actually had more active devs, some of that would probably change.  but in current state...
[07:22] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[07:22] <macd> working on the spec for it now actually
[07:22] <Hobbsee> :)
[07:26] <Hobbsee> !chroot
[07:26] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:27] <ubotu> New bug: #148400 in xubuntu-default-settings (main) "please bring back the running mouse login splash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148400
[07:28] <macogw> ill get that...
[07:28] <Hobbsee> woo :)
[07:28] <macogw> umm wait
[07:28] <macogw> i cant set importance
[07:29] <macogw> obviously it's wishlist
[07:29] <macogw> i have to actually be on bugsquad to do that, huh?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> you have to be in -qa to do that
[07:29] <macogw> -qa?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> hm, that may be a bug
[07:29] <macogw> quality assurance, i guess?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> see the /toipc
[07:29] <RAOF> ubuntu-qa.
[07:29] <Hobbsee> er, /topic
[07:30] <macogw> on regarding a library i guess it could be
[07:30] <macogw> but if they just decided they want it to sit still it's not
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148403 in totem (main) "can't clear the history of the file open" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148403
[07:31] <macogw> im asking in #xubuntu-devel on if they wanted to get rid of it or not
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148404 in gnome-main-menu (universe) "g-m-m search_command should default to Tracker now that it's installed by default, not Beagle" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148404
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #148407 in gnome-main-menu (universe) "g-m-m adds unhidden 'logout', 'lock screen' menu items to 'other' section" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148407
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148408 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  System lockup when switching VT's" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148408
[07:48] <macogw> i wonder if they switched between multiple VTs or got confused when they went to the first VT and it was blank with no login, tried VT 2 and it was the same, and assumed it was locked without realizing the VTs are running but display nothing with framebuffer
[08:33] <ubotu> New bug: #148413 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel is invisible after gnome starts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148413
[08:33] <ubotu> New bug: #148414 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird composition does not check configured LDAP directory for address" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148414
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148417 in kdepim (main) "[gutsy]  kmail : fetching mails automatically does not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148417
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148418 in ubuntu "Firestarter dies silently in Gutsy beta x86" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148418
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148419 in mozplugger (universe) "[gutsy]  Did not open a PDF in the browser" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148419
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148421 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in pushPlugin() when enabling Visual Effects on 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148421
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148422 in openoffice.org (main) "[gutsy]  Fullscreen mode does not allow editing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148422
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148423 in compiz (main) "[Gutsy]  rendering problem with totem with compiz enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148423
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148424 in j2se1.4-i586 (multiverse) "package j2sdk1.4-doc None failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148424
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #148427 in ubuntu "[needs packaging]  GemRB" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148427
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148429 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  DRI interrupts busted on 965gm (+fix)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148429
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148432 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel freezes randomly if restarted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148432
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148434 in compiz (main) "compiz opengl rendering artefacts (dragging, rotating)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148434
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148435 in hal (main) "User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148435
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148439 in evolution (main) "I can't configure lots of plugins" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148439
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148441 in ubuntu "USB WLAN" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148441
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148444 in kdebase (main) "Kubuntu Feisty konqueror servicemenus incorrect print commands" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148444
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148445 in ubuntu "wireless connection crash sometimes with Ubuntu gutsy beta. Hardware D-link gwl g-122 usb rev. C" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148445
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148442 in gaim (main) "gaim freezes or chrashes randomly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148442
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148446 in ubuntu "package kdm 4:3.5.7-1ubuntu26 failed to install/upgrade: read error on stdin at conffile prompt" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148446
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148447 in ubuntu "With Sapphire Radeon 9100 cannot install restricted drivers" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148447
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #148448 in ubuntu "eth0 is moved to eth1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148448
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #148449 in apt (main) "Workaround incorrect Release file on feisty CDs" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148449
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148450 in hdapsd (universe) "strange startup script" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148450
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148451 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-screenshot crashed with SIGSEGV in readdir64_r() after "print screen"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148451
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148452 in apt (main) "apt-get doesn't understand the http_proxy env-variable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148452
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148461 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148461
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148462 in firefox (main) "firefox doesn't display correctly utf-8 pages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148462
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148464 in eog (main) "Mousezoom in 7.10 works only with CTRL is pressed, need a Switch to do this as default like in 7.04" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148464
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148465 in valgrind (main) "Valgrind fails on most apps on amd64" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148465
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148467 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[regression]  on-Battery backlight brightness swapped with on-AC setting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148467
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148468 in network-manager-vpnc (universe) "network-manager-vpnc doesn't work with networks using NULL encryption" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148468
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148469 in update-manager (main) "update-manager (dist-upgrade)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148469
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148470 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Hibernation fails with blank screen and flashing cursor on HP nc8430" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148470
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148472 in evolution (main) "Evolution win-1251 display problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148472
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148466 in ubuntu "Won't boot on a DELL Poweredge 2500" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148466
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148473 in openoffice.org2-amd64 (main) "mail merge and openoffice in amd64 == crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148473
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148474 in gdm (main) "GDM doesn't show login screen using XDMCP" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148474
[11:41] <Lhademmor> Hello. I'm new to triaging - still trying to learn...
[11:42] <Lhademmor> In a case like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/97160 what should I do?
[11:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 97160 in ubiquity "Empty dialogboxes" [Undecided,New]
[11:42] <Lhademmor> Ask if the reporter can reproduce the bug?
[11:43] <mr-rus1> hi, desktop-effects is not currently in gusty.  It appears it will not be included.  Does that mean that bugs reported against gusty can be closed?
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148475 in openoffice.org (main) "application "Serienbrief-Assistent" and "Brief-Umschlag" in OpenOffice.org Write don't start." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148475
[11:46] <norsetto> mr-russ: most probably they have to be reassigned to the right package
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148476 in alsa-driver (main) "gutsy alsa ens1371: blocks when system is on load" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148476
[11:52] <norsetto> Lhademmor: do you understand what the bug reporter is reporting?
[11:53] <Lhademmor> norsetto: Yes, missing or broken translations
[11:53] <Lhademmor> norsetto: But since I don't have access to the relevant translations, I'm not really sure what else I could do..
[11:54] <norsetto> Lhademmor: thats his conclusion. Do you agree based on the info he gave us?
[11:55] <Lhademmor> norsetto: Not sure... I installed Feisty with the Danish translation without any problems - but that's ~100 years ago.
[11:55] <norsetto> Lhademmor: this "partition-utility" he is talking about, any idea what is it?
[11:57] <Lhademmor> norsetto: No, not really... I guess partman, but he reports it for ubiquity...
[11:57] <norsetto> Lhademmor: perhaps we ought to ask?
[11:58] <norsetto> Lhademmor: once we know (my guess is it is gparted) we can check the source code and see if there is anything wrong with the po files, or in the changelog hinting at the dk translations
[11:58] <Lhademmor> norsetto: Ask him what package it is?
[12:00] <norsetto> Lhademmor: or to give us enough information that could permit us to identify it, or check it yourself what is the partition utility used on the feisty CD
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148477 in ubuntu "cannot install 7.10beta(cpu:Intel celeron 530,display:Mobile Intel Graphic Media Accelerator X3100)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148477
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148478 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Sony Vaio: magicgate light always on" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148478
[12:01] <Lhademmor> norsetto: Good idea, but apparently another guy on #ubuntu-dk already identified it while we were talking :)
[12:01] <norsetto> Lhademmor: good :-)
[12:01] <Lhademmor> I'm afk: Lunch
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148481 in evolution-jescs (universe) "evolution-jescs prompts for a password when the network goes offline" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148481
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148482 in network-manager (main) "KDE network-manager problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148482
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148479 in ubuntu "Could not launch printer view:Failed to execute child process "gnome-cups-manager" (No such file or directory)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148479
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148485 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-style-crystal 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148485
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148487 in thunderbird (main) "i can not update my thunderbird and can not download adds on " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148487
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148490 in dolphin (main) "KDE try to execute dolphin to open its window but appears an error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148490
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148492 in totem (main) "why totem dont play a dvd?? is there something i must instal besides totem dvd player?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148492
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148494 in ubuntu "resize harddrive,enable drivers,cd install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148494
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148497 in ubuntu "Kubuntu grub menu.lst still uses Ubuntu in title" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148497
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148499 in ubiquity (main) "resized NTFS partition is not detected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148499
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148500 in ubuntu "cant activate visual effects" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148500
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148502 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  custom settings of compiz not available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148502
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148504 in pppconfig (main) "pppconfig removes/changes entries password" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148504
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148505 in debian-installer (main) "ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 is not supported" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148505
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148506 in firefox (main) "jump to search field doen't work in firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148506
[01:42] <ubotu> New bug: #148507 in compiz (main) "workspace switch on-screen display looks corrupted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148507
[01:42] <ubotu> New bug: #148509 in gnome-control-center (main) "The "Extra effects" string is not translated [gutsy] " [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148509
[01:42] <ubotu> New bug: #148510 in alsa-lib (main) "alsa jack pcm plugin not working when built against libasound2-dev" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148510
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148511 in util-linux (main) "/bin/arch command missing in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148511
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148508 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet crashed with SIGSEGV after a search (dup-of: 145230)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148508
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148514 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "kde applications are not shown in Gnome menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148514
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148515 in ubuntu "trash pointing to partiton" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148515
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148516 in amsn (universe) "webcam doe not transmit images" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148516
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148517 in ubuntu "OpenOffice impress not opening" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148517
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148518 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice Writer hangs when Format--Page menu option selected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148518
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148521 in xubuntu-meta (main) "not update notifier in xbuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148521
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148520 in tracker (main) "Trackerd starts but shows a lot of errors while indexing directories." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148520
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148522 in xubuntu-meta (main) "menu translations in ubuntu should be consistent" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148522
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148523 in ubuntu "flash plugin consumes all available memory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148523
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148525 in bash (main) "tab-completion of a softlink to a directory doesn't add '/' at the end" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148525
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148526 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "submittodebian should follow Bugs/Debian/Usertagging" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148526
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148529 in language-selector (main) "[Feisty] Please add ar_SA (Arabic_Saudi Arabia) to preferred languages list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148529
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #148527 in ubuntu "python-basemap" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148527
[02:44] <ubotu> New bug: #148530 in language-pack-gnome-de-base (main) "[Gutsy]  too long string in german translation makes first-time assistant too wide to fit screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148530
[02:44] <ubotu> New bug: #148532 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "Missing atl2 module in the udeb" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148532
[02:44] <ubotu> New bug: #148534 in fast-user-switch-applet (main) "User can shutdown machine even if others are logged in" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148534
[02:44] <ubotu> New bug: #148535 in daemontools-installer (multiverse) "daemontools-installer assumes /etc/inittab that has been replaced by event.d" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148535
[02:47] <ubotu> New bug: #148536 in ubuntu "OpenOffice.org is not opening on Feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148536
[02:47] <ubotu> New bug: #148537 in pidgin (main) "Pidgin 2.2.1 yahoo protocol buzzez problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148537
[02:48] <trunx> hi
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148538 in gnucash (universe) "[gutsy]  icon disappeared on 2.2.1-1ubuntu3 upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148538
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148539 in bzr-builddeb (universe) "bzr-builddeb should allow the inclusion of orig.tar.gz" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148539
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148543 in xen-source (universe) "Kernel BUG at drivers/xen/core/evtchn.c:481" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148543
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148544 in gnome-compiz-manager (universe) "Compiz manager has to be started twice on Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148544
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148547 in kdelibs (main) "package kdelibs-data 4:3.5.7-1ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148547
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148548 in gnucash-docs (universe) "Gnucash-docs is 2.0.5 while it should be 2.2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148548
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148549 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Postbooks Accounting/ERP" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148549
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148550 in openoffice.org (main) "Word perfect documents (.wps) are not associated with OpenOffice.org" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148550
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148551 in dolphin (main) "Dolphin  filter bar does not filter folders" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148551
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148552 in ubuntu "T602 documents (.602) are not associated with OpenOffice.org" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148552
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148554 in ubuntu "Word perfect graphics (.wpg) misses an icon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148554
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #124514 in mythbuntu "IVTV driver can run out of buffers" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124514
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #148541 in totem "totem crashed with SIGSEGV  using snapshot" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148541
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148555 in kvpnc (universe) "kvpnc: wrong modification of resolv.conf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148555
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #148557 in hugin (universe) "Optimization fail with "Syntax error in script"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148557
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #148558 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "Enabling "Opacify" in compizconfig-settings-manager sometimes causes gnome-panels to become invisible (Ubuntu 7.10 beta)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148558
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #134079 in kvpnc (universe) "Upgrading to gutsy breaks OpenVPN config" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134079
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148556 in evolution "weather plugin misses several locations (dup-of: 12430)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148556
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148388 in libmtp (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148388
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148564 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.10 Beta installation from CD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148564
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148565 in alacarte (main) "Alacarte menu changes do not change applications menu item." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148565
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148366 in update-manager "update-manager fails to upgrade to gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148366
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #147430 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/147430
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #147853 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV in sqlite3PagerAcquire()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/147853
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #147999 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_notify()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/147999
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148559 in ubuntu "Installation stops when installing the languagepackages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148559
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148560 in ubuntu "installer hangs with encryption and random password" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148560
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148561 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "snd_hda_intel won't load on 2.6.20-16-generic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148561
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #147997 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_set_valist()" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/147997
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148361 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in rb_source_try_playlist()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148361
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148567 in evolution (main) "[gutsy]  Evolution preferences dialog messed up" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148567
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148342 in evolution "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in gnome_calendar_get_current_view_widget()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148342
[04:27] <bddebian> Boo
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148571 in gnome-system-tools (main) "Changing hostname breaks X session" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148571
[04:37] <ubotu> New bug: #148562 in ubuntu "OpenOffice.org Calc crashes with certain .xls/.csv files, Draw does not open at all (Ubuntu 7.10 beta)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148562
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148575 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Darter 12.2" screen dim problem in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148575
[04:43] <herzi> locate just crashed and I don't get a proper backtrace
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148577 in ubuntu "[7.10 beta]  netboot installer fails when selecting only "ssh server" during installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148577
[04:46] <herzi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/slocate/+bug/134213
[04:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134213 in slocate "double free or corruption detected by glibc" [Undecided,New]
[04:46] <herzi> ^^ any advice to debug this?
[04:47] <seb128> herzi: valgrind?
[04:49] <herzi> > valgrind slocate -i bluetooth*desktop
[04:49] <herzi> valgrind: /usr/bin/slocate: Permission denied
[04:49] <herzi> strange
[04:49] <seb128> herzi: it doesn't like the setgid
[04:50] <herzi> chmod g-s?
[04:50] <seb128> chmod it 755 and run it with sudo maybe
[04:50] <seb128> yes
[04:50] <herzi> .oO(g-s is easier to remember for reverting later)
[04:50] <seb128> ;)
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148578 in xfce4-wavelan-plugin (universe) "xfce4-wavelan-plugin show completely wrong link quality" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148578
[04:55] <herzi> seb128: thanks
[04:55] <seb128> herzi: you might want to install slocate-dbgsym also
[04:55] <herzi> I have
[04:55] <seb128> good ;)
[04:55] <herzi> but the symbols don't show up
[04:55] <herzi> at least not with source-file info
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148579 in apparmor (main) "nameserver abstraction doesn't allow avahi mdns resolution" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148579
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148580 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Soundcard Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic not detected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148580
[04:56] <seb128> herzi: your valgrind log has the symbols, it just doesn't have the lines, which is weird
[04:57] <herzi> gdb also had the syms but not the lines
[04:57] <seb128> maybe the package is stripped a weird way
[04:59] <herzi> .oO(so much work to do, so little time...)
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148581 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "cd dvd creator write error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148581
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148582 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "selected "widescreen monitor"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148582
[05:10] <seb128> herzi: I added a valgrind log with lines on the bug
[05:10] <herzi> nice, thanks
[05:10] <seb128> you're welcome
[05:10] <seb128> slocate use a simple Makefile, no autotools
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148584 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Mouse Input X freezes with XEN/HVM hosts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148584
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148585 in gnome-desktop (main) "".ardour" project files are not recognized by GNOME (no file type association)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148585
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148586 in apparmor (main) "Depends on linux-ubuntu-modules-386" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148586
[05:10] <seb128> you can uncomment a line to build it with -g3
[05:10] <seb128> I did that a copied the binary
[05:10] <seb128> s/a/and
[05:16] <rajeevindus> hello
[05:16] <rajeevindus> what is meant by bug triaging ?
[05:17] <rajeevindus> is it like reporting  a bug ?
[05:17] <rajeevindus> i would like to help . thanks
[05:20] <rajeevindus> i recently started learning python so maybe i can help
[05:20] <rajeevindus> :)
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141479 in bluez-utils (main) "bluetoothd-service-audio crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141479
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148588 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV in strstr() possibly connected to VM (dup-of: 147348)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148588
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148589 in ubuntu "usb mouse stops working after a short while" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148589
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148590 in apparmor (main) "dnsmasq profile" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148590
[05:36] <bdmurray> They waited 6 minutes to hear back?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> seems so.
[05:39] <bdmurray> That hardly seems fair.
[05:39] <bdmurray> I wanted their help!
[05:39] <Hobbsee> nothing is fair.
[05:40] <bdmurray> So bleak the words you speak
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148593 in evince-gtk (main) "evince ignores 'no toolbar' preference in fullscreen mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148593
[05:43] <zul> Hobbsee: which one is this?
[05:43] <Hobbsee> zul: one?
[05:43] <zul> bug #
[05:43] <Hobbsee> what, you want all ~400?
[05:43] <bdmurray> That's it?
[05:44] <Hobbsee> yeah, but i actually read them, rather than just /dev/null'ing them
[05:44] <Hobbsee> i'm not good like you, bdmurray
[05:44] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: i'm a mere kubuntu packager.
[05:45] <herzi> seb128: do you change the slocate build setup to include the line info?
[05:46] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: I wouldn't say mere.
[05:47] <herzi> seb128: nice point: I managed to change the valgrind-output (not the double free happens at a different place)
[05:48] <seb128> herzi: I described before what I did ;)
[05:48] <seb128> herzi: uncomment the -g3 line basically
[05:48] <seb128> and run make
[05:48] <herzi> seb128: I know, I just wanted to know if this change will end up in the build system
[05:49] <seb128> ah, no, I didn't upload that (yet)
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148596 in ubuntu "Sound card not detected (Ubuntu 7.10 beta)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148596
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148599 in gnome-panel (main) "vmware player dependance problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148599
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148600 in nfs-utils (main) "Kernel Oops with nfs4 mount" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148600
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148603 in ubuntu "wrong entry in default gconf for gnome-screensaver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148603
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148604 in rdesktop (main) "Unable to toggle rdesktop in full-screen mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148604
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148605 in gnome-session (main) "gnome starts all startup programs at once" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148605
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148606 in gnome-system-tools (main) "Static network settings while in livecd do not take effect without complete restart of network setting tool and re-assertion of the device checkbox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148606
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148601 in kvirc (universe) "KVIrc segfaults in Ubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148601
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148602 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "livecd did not eject CD on reboot on IBM xSeries 235" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148602
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148607 in k3b-i18n "some-unproper-encodings-for-russian-locale" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148607
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148608 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice calc crashes in formulahelper on gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148608
[06:27] <gautada> Greetings and salutations, did I make the hug-a-bug day?
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148611 in ubuntu "Totem fails to play videos, LiVES won't open after kernel update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148611
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148614 in gnome-system-tools (main) "network tool goes into busy loop trying to read nonexistent /root/.gnome2/network-admin-locations file on IBM xSeries 255" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148614
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148617 in network-manager (main) "network-manager tries to connect to WLAN even if already connected to a LAN" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148617
[07:04] <gautada> Could someone help me get started on bug triage?   I am an experienced developer new to Ubuntu and want to make sure that I am following the community guidelines.
[07:04] <gautada> I am looking at bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/53914
[07:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 53914 in ubiquity "Installer keyboard lazout setting" [Undecided,New]
[07:05] <bdmurray> gautada: looking
[07:05] <bdmurray> The first thing to look at is with which version of Ubuntu the bug report is about
[07:06] <gautada> bdmurray: Ypu did that and I confirmed with a quick install using vmware.
[07:06] <bdmurray> Install of dapper?
[07:07] <gautada> bdmurray: Yes, I had an old cd lying around.
[07:07] <bdmurray> That severity of bug is not likely to be fixed for Dapper though
[07:07] <gautada> bdmurray: I used an old bug Iincase I messed up.
[07:07] <bdmurray> It would be good to try and reproduce it with the development release of Ubuntu
[07:08] <gautada> bdmurray: so I should confirm in gutsy/fiesty?
[07:09] <bdmurray> Gutsy as that is where ubiquity is being actively developed and with the Beta CD at a minimum and a daily ideally
[07:09] <gautada> bdmurray: OK I will get gutsy and give it whirl...  Will report back in a while after testing daily, thanks.
[07:09] <bdmurray> gautada: Thank you for helping out
[07:10] <gautada> glad to, I am new convert from gentoo and I am so very impressed with the community that getting involved is a pleasure
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148618 in libcompress-zlib-perl (main) "Change in behaviour of gzreadline() caused debmirror to delete my whole mirror" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148618
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148619 in dosemu-freedos (multiverse) "dosemu-freedos depends on dosemu but it is not going to be installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148619
[07:17] <ubotu> New bug: #148621 in wpasupplicant (main) "wireless WPA / WPA2 connection fails with long password" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148621
[07:17] <ubotu> New bug: #148623 in bittorrent (main) "bittorrent unable to start in 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148623
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148624 in hal (main) "cannot "safely remove" 2 thumb drives" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148624
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148626 in util-linux (main) "can't update mount due to odd file perms of umount man page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148626
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148628 in dolphin (main) "Dolphin doesn't calculate the size / change the date when selecting multiple files (Gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148628
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148630 in network-manager-applet (main) "Wired not available in NetworkManager after wireless is used (Gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148630
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148631 in ubuntu "[7.10-beta]  requesting xend status with /etc/init.d/xend status gives no output" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148631
[07:42] <macogw> can someone mark bug #148605 "wishlist" i'm not on the ubuntu-qa team, so i can't, but that's where it should go
[07:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 148605 in gnome-session "gnome starts all startup programs at once" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148605
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148641 in qtparted (main) "Qtparted crashes when trying to access PATA drive." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148641
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148642 in adept (main) "adept button should be greyed out" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148642
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148643 in ubuntu "In Ubuntu beta 7.10 Open office Writer 2.3 crashes when I try to format and when I try to print." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148643
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148632 in compiz (main) "[Gutsy]  Need to start twice a gnome session in order to have both gnome panels on screen." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148632
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148637 in ubuntu "gusty doesn't boot on ac power unless acpi=off, but boots on battery" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148637
[07:47] <ubotu> New bug: #148633 in ubuntu "WLAN: WEP Hex must be typed in to connect in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148633
[07:47] <ubotu> New bug: #148634 in ubuntu "WLAN disconnect all 2-5 minutes without a reason" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148634
[07:47] <ubotu> New bug: #148635 in gparted (main) "gparted extreamely slow in Kubuntu Gutsy beta amd64 and crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148635
[07:53] <bdmurray> macogw: I'll take a look
[07:54] <bdmurray> That bug probably needs forwarding upstream.  Right pedro_?
[07:54] <gautada> bwmurray: Is the gutsy-alternate*.iso OK to use for testing from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20071003/
[07:56] <bdmurray> The alternate installer does not include ubiquity and that is what we were talking about earlier right?
[07:56] <gautada> bdmurray: Yes, not sure where to get ubiquity
[07:56] <bdmurray> Ubiquity is the gui installer so would be on the desktop or live cd
[07:57] <gautada> ok I will look
[07:57] <bdmurray> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20071003/
[07:57] <bdmurray> notice the daily-live
[07:57] <gautada> yup found it thanks.
[08:07] <ubotu> New bug: #148645 in ubuntu "suspend to ram now failing on IBM T60p" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148645
[08:07] <ubotu> New bug: #148646 in rhythmbox (main) "[Gutsy]  Crash on podcast download" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148646
[08:07] <ubotu> New bug: #148647 in gdm (main) "[Gutsy]  GDM Theme "Circles" is broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148647
[08:07] <ubotu> New bug: #148649 in ubuntu "changing login windows makes crashing after reboot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148649
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148650 in ubuntu "openoffice menu icons disappeared" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148650
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148652 in djvulibre (main) "failed to upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148652
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148651 in apport (main) "apport crashes when reporting a bug in a PPA package" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148651
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148654 in banshee (universe) "Banshee won't play any tracks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148654
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148657 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[regression]  framebuffer resolutions broken " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148657
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148658 in alsa-tools (universe) "alsa-tools-gui hdspconf can't detect HDSP cards" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148658
[08:37] <pedro_> bdmurray, regarding the last bug, that's planned http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/NewGnomeSession
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148659 in scrot (universe) "scrot can't save files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148659
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148661 in firefox (main) "Defined functions in extensions do not inherit Function.prototype" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148661
[08:57] <ubotu> New bug: #148620 in alacarte (main) "alacarte crashed with OSError in quit()" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148620
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148640 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "gnome-vfs-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_check()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148640
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148664 in ubuntu "display shimmer at graphical login" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148664
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148669 in xfwm4 (main) "custom keybindings don't work immediately" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148669
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148670 in nfs-utils (main) "package nfs-kernel-server 1:1.1.1~git-20070709-3ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: problemy z zale?no?ciami - pozostawiony nieskonfigurowany" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148670
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148666 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in glGetString() (dup-of: 144241)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148666
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148672 in rhythmbox (main) "USB mass storage and rhythmbox problems" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148672
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148663 in dolphin (main) "Icon launch effect is not implemented in Dolphin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148663
[09:12] <ubotu> New bug: #148674 in ubuntu "Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 beta DVD WILL NOT INSTALL ON RAID 5 Dual boot WITH XP PRO " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148674
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148209 in gnome-pilot "gpilotd crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_unref()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148209
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148677 in ubuntu "Dual Monitor Gui on Gusty X64 broke" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148677
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148681 in libgimp-perl (universe) "libgimp-perl not installable (broken dependency)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148681
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148687 in kopete (main) "Kopete intenal sqlite database fails when stored on NFS" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148687
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148688 in gnome-panel (main) "frostwire" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148688
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148686 in ubuntu "screen blinks a lot during boot " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148686
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148690 in firefox (main) "proper validated XHTML code yet won't display properly in mozilla firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148690
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148691 in epiphany-browser (main) "Epiphany fileselector does not show files, even when selected show all hidden files !" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148691
[09:57] <ubotu> New bug: #148692 in network-manager (main) "network-manager does not display the networks while iwlist does" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148692
[09:57] <ubotu> New bug: #148693 in grub-installer (main) "grub picks incorrect default root device" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148693
[09:57] <ubotu> New bug: #148694 in tilda (universe) "Tilda doesn't function correctly when disabling animated pulldown" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148694
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148696 in ubufox (main) "Success message when installation fails" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148696
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148697 in totem (main) "Video thumbnailer doesn't working with Indeo5 files." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148697
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148695 in synaptic (main) "Focus should be on Close for the first time welcome dialog" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148695
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148698 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "network interface numbers weirdness" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148698
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148699 in nautilus (main) "ftp in nautilus append the year in a file or directory name" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148699
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148676 in poppler "[EM64T] evince crashed with SIGSEGV in ImageStream::getLine()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148676
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148702 in ghc6 (universe) "Installing ghc6-libsrc and ghc6-doc results in error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148702
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148701 in nautilus (main) "Search function in File browser does not function" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148701
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148704 in firefox (main) "Firefox does not start when visual effects are set to none" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148704
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148705 in knowledgetree (universe) "Package missing "DB.php" file." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148705
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148706 in kde-systemsettings (main) "kdmtheme module can not apply changes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148706
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148708 in apparmor (main) "syslog-ng profile needs capability sys_admin and /proc/kmsg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148708
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148709 in metacity (main) "Xrandr rotate with metacity artifacts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148709
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148710 in alsa-utils (main) "[Gutsy Beta]  No sound in some apps" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148710
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148711 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "SCSI HardDisk Not Detected on Toshiba Qosmio G20 Laptop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148711
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148712 in bluez-utils (main) "Gusty: Not seeing bluetooth services even after pairing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148712
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148714 in ubuntu "provide a download of the packaging guide" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148714
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148715 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity-kde does not close installer's main window when it is installing the OS" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148715
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148718 in acpi-support (main) "[gutsy]  supending via hotkey does not work but works losing the lid" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148718
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148720 in kdepim (main) "kontact hangs on start, uses almost all CPU" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148720
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148722 in rhythmbox (main) "crashed during ubuntu update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148722
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148724 in yaird (universe) "1017_cryptsetup_blkid_test.patch results in failure with LVM2 within LUKS" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148724
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148725 in slocate (main) "locate shows fatal error, permissions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148725
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148609 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-appearance-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148609
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148727 in yaird (universe) "yaird's Templates.cfg refer to /etc/console/boottime.kmap. In ubuntu, it's under /etc/console-setup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148727
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148729 in ubuntu "upgrading my version of ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148729
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148732 in ubuntu "fenerbahce" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148732
[11:32] <ubotu> New bug: #148734 in upstart (main) "postinst script causes network installer to fail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148734
[11:32] <ubotu> New bug: #148735 in gwhois (universe) "gwhois fails on .de domains" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148735
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148738 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Network downlink slow on Dell Inspiron 531S" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148738
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148739 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed when I change the dpi settings in Gnome" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148739
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148740 in gnome-games (main) "Oriya suggestions for Occitan" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148740
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148742 in kdebase-workspace (universe) "package kdebase-workspace-data None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdebase-workspace-data.list]  failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/solidfakenetbackend/fakenetworking.xml', which is also in package kde4libs-data" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148742
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148743 in parted (main) "copying partition results in duplicate uuid" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148743
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148744 in encfs (universe) "encfs is not working on gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148744
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148745 in ubuntu "totem doesn't play last clicked file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148745
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148746 in xorg (main) "tty1-6 don't work in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148746
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148747 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror crashes when using search-bar" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148747
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148748 in cupsys (main) "Epson Stylus CX7800 not supported in Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148748
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148749 in ubuntu "Boot up hangs with blank screen - Toshiba Equium 197-L20" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148749
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148750 in svn-workbench (universe) "wb_main.py crashed with SIGSEGV in wxEvtHandler::ProcessEvent()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148750
[12:12] <ubotu> New bug: #148753 in bluefish (universe) "Bluefish complains about esd on startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148753