[06:58] <tjaalton> Ng: right, the guy who made those patches is the g-p-m maintainer, so you need a newer g-p-m..
[06:58] <tjaalton> we all do :)
[07:13] <hyperair> what patches?
[07:16] <tjaalton> hyperair: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/
[07:23] <tjaalton> both are in karmic, so we just need a newer g-p-m
[08:07] <tseliot> bryce: where's the new nvidia-driver? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/
[08:21] <tjaalton> tseliot: what do you mean?
[08:22] <tseliot> tjaalton: see the discussion in ubuntu-devel
[09:21] <bryce> tseliot, rejected by archive admin again
[09:22] <tseliot> bryce: that was the one with -185 in the source
[09:22] <tseliot> tjaalton: uploaded the one with 180
[09:24] <tseliot> tjaalton was really the subject of my previous sentence... therefore s/:/
[09:25] <tseliot> s/://
[09:25] <bryce> ok
[09:26] <bryce> nite
[09:27] <tseliot> night bryce
[15:32] <kazade> hi, I noticed that there are some patches here ( http://people.freedesktop.org/~glisse/kms/ ) for R600 KMS, can we expect to see KMS on R600 in Karmic soon?
[15:33] <tjaalton> doubtful
[15:35] <kazade> :(
[15:36] <tjaalton> but that's just me, I don't know what bryce/apw have planned
[15:43] <kazade> ok, I just actually read the patch and it says: "This only provide a kms drm fb device for this hw and allow X to run with no acceleration" so yeh, not ready :)
[15:43] <apw> heh.  kernel support is there for some cards, but without mesa support its useless and that is a complex problem i believe
[15:44] <kazade> it's typical that I only just upgraded from an R300 (AGP) (when I knew KMS was coming) to an R500 (PCIe) and now I can't go back to try out KMS :/
[15:45] <kazade> *R600
[15:49] <kazade> well, at least I assume it's an R600... how can I tell?
[15:53] <tjaalton> yeah, there are many moving parts, and I'm not sure if it's robust enough just yet
[15:54] <kazade> well, I've got an HD3200... but I can't find anywhere whether that is an R500 chip, or R600...
[15:56] <tjaalton> r600
[15:56] <kazade> ah ok thanks
[15:56] <tjaalton> hd2xxx-> is r6xx/7xx
[15:57] <tjaalton> er
[15:57] <tjaalton> well, yes
[18:50] <superm1> jbarnes, i've actually got the hardware for bug 416792 at my desk for today. is there anything else you'd like me to add to that bug while i've got it?
[18:52] <jbarnes> superm1: zhenyu said he posted a fix to intel-gfx, but I don't ahve it handy
[18:52] <jbarnes> iirc it was for the agp device
[18:52] <superm1> intel-gfx being an intel kernel git tree, or ML or what?
[18:53] <jbarnes> ml
[18:53] <jbarnes><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:59] <superm1> i'm probably not too sure what i'm looking for, but if you were referring to http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2009-August/003824.html, the host bridge ID of this system is 0x0044 which was already supported
[19:01] <jbarnes> superm1: could be the "VGA plane" patch
[19:01] <jbarnes> looks like that patch might also be in "Patch to fix fdo bug #21064"
[19:03] <superm1> but those both look like they are the non-KMS case aren't they?
[19:04] <jbarnes> there should be a kms equivalent for the vga one I think
[19:04] <jbarnes> though maybe not... zhenyu is the real expert here
[19:04] <superm1> okay i won't get ahead of myself here then trying to look into it too much then :)
[19:05] <jbarnes> yeah sorry I'm only just starting to hack on iron lake stuff


[12:21] <jonathan_> my bad sorry for the double post
[01:16] <tux_wears_a_tux> Hello?
[01:17] <LaserJock> hi
[01:17] <tux_wears_a_tux> laserjock: my "friend" banned me from the ubuntu support room by yelling "boom!" and things like that under my screenname. how do i unban myself?
[01:18] <LaserJock> tux_wears_a_tux: you'll need to talk to #ubuntu-ops I think
[01:18] <tux_wears_a_tux> laserjock: ok. thanks. because it seems like my IP was banned, not just the username. thanks
[01:24] <tux_wears_a_tux> Hello?
[01:25] <tux_wears_a_tux> Hello?
[01:25] <LaserJock> yeah
[01:26] <tux_wears_a_tux> LaserJock: how long do bans last? I need to use the support chat very often, and I was dismissed saying "You should have known better" - I was in the bathroom when my friend started bombarding the chats. What should I do?
[01:26] <LaserJock> tux_wears_a_tux: who said you should have known better?
[01:27] <tux_wears_a_tux> Whoever dismissed me. I didn't pay attention to the name.
[01:27] <LaserJock> well, I can't do anything about it, I'm sorry
[01:28] <crimsun> joseph price did.
[01:28] <crimsun> aka PriceChild
[01:28] <tux_wears_a_tux> crimsun: Why'd he dismiss me?
[01:28] <tux_wears_a_tux> my friend who wasn't acting like a friend bombarded the chats, not me.
[01:30] <PriceChild> tux_wears_a_tux, This is not the place to discuss bans. Please move it to pm with me.
[01:31] <LjL> FYI: he's joined like 8 clones with different nicknames, and now different idents. he's in perfectly bad faith.
[01:32] <crimsun> the distro and its derivatives seem to attract a lot of drivel.
[01:33] <LaserJock> *sigh* It's tough being so good ;-)
[01:34] <PriceChild> hehe
[02:40] <ace_ace> PriceChild:In the edubuntu login screen, when I click 'options->configure login manager' (on the server) nothing happens. Is this knowm ?
[02:41] <ace_ace> sorry known
[02:43] <ace_ace> LaserJock:howdy!
[02:48] <LaserJock> ace_ace: hi
[03:03] <ace_ace> LaserJock: how's life... any idea about this: In the edubuntu login screen, when I click 'options->configure login manager' (on the server) nothing happens.
[03:04] <LaserJock> boy, I really don't know
[03:10] <montero61> help
[03:10] <montero61> pliss
[03:13] <LaserJock> you need to explain you problem first before anybody can help
[03:14] <montero61> alguien habla en espaol
[03:15] <ace_ace> LaserJock: Okay dude,,, that makes 2 of us!
[03:19] <montero61> I explain myself in my Chile country we are with a school that it wants to install edubuntu but I need some presentation or that the basic characteristics tell me to be able to create a presentation   if profit that accepts this project we would beforehand have to 50 computers with edubuntu by its aid thanks
[03:22] <LaserJock> montero61: you might try http://www.edubuntu.org/UsingEdubuntu
[03:22] <LaserJock> and http://www.edubuntu.org/faq
[03:22] <montero61> tanks
[03:39] <cstextiles> Does TCM of LTSP Server of Ubuntu has VNC Server which can enable to look into the clients machine?
[03:39] <LaserJock> it does use VNC
[03:42] <cstextiles> so u mean I can look into LTSP Clients machine using TCM included in Edubuntu 7.04 release?
[03:42] <cstextiles> LaserJock: so u mean I can look into LTSP Clients machine using TCM included in Edubuntu 7.04 release?
[03:42] <LaserJock> cstextiles: you should be able to
[03:43] <cstextiles> LaserJock: Thanks
[08:04] <willvdl> LaserJock, http://www.livescience.com/technology/destroy_earth_mp-1.html
[08:04] <willvdl> thought you might like that :)
[08:48] <LaserJock> morning RichEd
[08:48] <RichEd> greetz LaserJock ...
[08:48] <RichEd> how's things ?
[08:49] <LaserJock> oh, alright
[08:49] <LaserJock> I got Fridge editor rights this weekend
[08:49] <RichEd> cool ;)
[08:49] <LaserJock> so hopefully I can populate fridge with more Edubuntu and MOTU stories
[08:50] <highvoltage> (or slightly before the weekend, at least)
[08:51] <RichEd> hello highvoltage ... how's the new job going ?
[08:51] <highvoltage> RichEd: good, lots of work, but I can't complain
[08:52] <RichEd> LaserJock: ollie and I will be looking at specs tomorrow to prioritise for gutsy ... will you be available early thursday morning to comment on menu stuff ?
[08:52] <highvoltage> RichEd: I just hope Will get's a chance to drop off that camera at 12plein, I still need to rip those videos
[08:52] <RichEd> highvoltage: when does he get back from Kenya ?
[08:53] <highvoltage> RichEd: I *think* sometime later this week
[08:53] <LaserJock> RichEd: I think so, I'm finishing off the EdubuntuAddonEnhancements for you guys to look at as well
[09:32] <pygi> highvoltage, :P
[09:34] <RichEd> hey pygi
[09:35] <pygi> hey RichEd :)
[09:35] <highvoltage> 9/win 25
[09:35] <pygi> meh highvoltage !
[09:36] <highvoltage> pygi: meh!
[09:39] <pygi> highvoltage, pm
[09:39] <highvoltage> pygi: I think it's fixed now
[09:40] <pygi> oki
[12:01] <RichEd> ogra: ping
[01:48] <ace_suares> people... when i click 'Options->Configure Login Manager' on the edubuntu login screen, nothing happens... any clues ?
[01:49] <RichEd> hi ace_suares ... is that an LTSP setup ?
[01:57] <ogra> ace_suares, des that happen as well if you use it from the System menu ?
[01:57] <ogra> (or not happen)
[04:01] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:59] <ace_suares> RichEd: yes
[04:59] <ace_suares> ogra: will test later on.
[05:25] <encompass> ubuntu_laptop: how are you?  I like your name... do YOU have proper ACPI support?
[05:26] <encompass> Aperently not :P
[05:32] <RichEd> hi encompass ... how's the python today ? behaving ?
[05:36] <ace_suares> ping ogra
[05:37] <ace_suares> ogra: in System, there is only 'Login Window' (Ssytem-Administration->Login Window, is that the same thing as 'configure the login manager?
[05:38] <ace_suares> Other thing: I tried hibernate on the server, when it came back up it showed the plain login screen again, nada de-hibernation...
[05:39] <sbalneav> ace_suares: if you're having trouble with hibernation, it could be a bios problem
[05:39] <sbalneav> You might want to check and see if there's any bios updates for the motherboard.
[05:53] <powernet> hi all, anyone may help me with LTSP ?
[05:56] <RichEd> powernet: it's a bit quiet in here now ...  but try #ltsp ... that is the LTSP core we bundle
[05:56] <powernet> RichEd ok thanks !
[06:27] <bddebian> Heya
[07:30] <LaserJock> ogra: still around? I had a look at gcompris
[07:30] <LaserJock> ogra: there is no configure flag to drop gnuchess so as far as I can tell we need to patch a Makefile to not build the chess game


[02:00] <nhaines> jono: I loved the Nintendo shirt yesterday.  :)
[02:01] <nhaines> Nintendo games tend to be light, accessible, quick, and deep for those who explore them.  So I suspect you may find yourself with a Wii U in two or three years after all, once the little one starts playing.
[03:05] <nhaines> akk: _o/
[03:05] <akk> hi nhaines
[03:05] <nhaines> How's your week so far?
[03:07] <akk> Pretty good! How's yours?
[03:08] <nhaines> Not bad!  I just got comissioned to do a 12,000 word Ubuntu magazine article.  So now I have something to do for the rest of the week.
[03:08] <akk> Excellent! What's the article on?
[03:08] <nhaines> Ubuntu 14.04 on ALL the things.
[03:08] <akk> My project of the week is writing a python wrapper around gphoto2 to integrate with my raspberry pi wildlife camera.
[03:09] <nhaines> Ooh, that sounds like fun.
[03:10] <akk> I'm in a big refactoring mess right now but starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
[03:11] <akk> I'm informed by the spousal unit that it's time to watch a movie. Seeya!
[03:11] <nhaines> yay movie!
[03:17] <rww> I am happy to announce that elky will actually belong in this channel in a couple of weeks :D
[03:17] <rww> (visa got approved yesterday)
[03:17] <nhaines> yay!  :D
[03:17] <rww> well, delivered
[03:18] <rww> so yes, will have her over here before the month's out
[03:18] <rww> nhaines: also, i'm switching to t-mobile :P
[03:20] <nhaines> Yay, fantastic savings on the nation's most economical carrier!  :P
[03:21] <nhaines> rww: did I ever send you a referral email?  I think if you switch and by a device in-store (and Nexus 5 is a winner) I get money.  :P
[03:22] <nhaines> On a TOTALLY UNRELATED note, ChunkHost is a fantastic VPS host with Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04 available and everybody should try it using this link: https://chunkhost.com/r/nhaines :P
[03:22] <darthrobot> [R: chunkhost.com] Title: [SSD VPS Server, Fast Cloud Server, VPS Server, Cloud Hosting From ChunkHost]
[03:22] <rww> nhaines: oh shoot, i forgot about that
[03:22] <nhaines> Boo  :P
[03:23] <nhaines> Oh well, what's far more important is that you're saving money.
[03:23] <nhaines> You can just paypal me the $25.  :P
[03:23] <rww> nhaines: already ordered the phones and stuff, but if i see a place to refer when i create my t-mobile website account thing and activate i'll do it
[03:23] <rww> nhaines: not bitcoin :P?
[03:23] <nhaines> Bitcoin also accepted.  :P
[03:27] <nhaines> rww: what phones did you get?
[03:29] <rww> nhaines: nexus 5, obviously
[03:30] <rww> (x2, since i didn't feel like calling up again when she gets here)
[03:30] <nhaines> Easy to root and then dual-boot Ubuntu.
[03:31] <nhaines> Once Ubuntu is worth running on the Nexus 5, this will be a plus.
[03:31] <rww> maybe i will do this before she gets here as a prank
[03:31] <nhaines> ha  :)
[03:31] <nhaines> Also I saw some photos of the Clock app running with the new header design.  I'm skeptical of the SDK stuff but looked slick.
[03:33] <nhaines> Huh, ironically, this 12,000 word article will be the last one I write with the help of Ubuntu One file storage.
[03:35] <nhaines> It is ironic because I'm writing about Ubuntu 14.04 on 14.04 but U1 is already EOL.
[03:43] <jyo> nhaines: haha. IPv6 via a he.net tunnel.
[03:44] <jyo> nhaines: wrt chunkhost
[03:46] <nhaines> jyo: it's handy, right?
[03:46] <rww> native IPv6 is handier :P
[03:47] <jyo> Fairly certain peer1 has native IPv6...
[03:47] <nhaines> I'm not using IPv6 anyway.  :P
[03:49] <jyo> Might be possible for them to anchor a single tunnel and distribute /64s out of the routed /48 but again, no idea about their setup and their lack of "high end routers to handle it".
[03:51] <elky> it's a shame i read this channel
[03:52] <rww> it's the fuzz, everyone scram
[03:52] <nhaines> cheese it!
[03:52] <rww> ^
[03:52] <elky> hehe
[03:52] <rww> little does elky know i'm actually putting FIREFOX OS on it
[03:52] <rww> wait does firefox os work on nexus 5's
[03:52] <elky> i would be up for trying that
[03:52] <jyo> to get the DRM, right? </troll>
[03:52] <nhaines> rww: only in so far as it "works" anyway.
[03:53] <rww> jyo: nah, I want directory tiles for real estate company on my phone
[03:53] <elky> this is important to internets everywhere
[03:54] <rww> anyways
[03:54]  * rww spins up FTL
[03:54] <nhaines> Hopefully Canonical will patch in their own ads on their Ubuntu packages.
[03:54] <rww> oh
[03:54] <rww> nhaines: have you played Universe Sandbox
[03:54] <nhaines> I'd play FTL too except I have a novel to write.  :P
[03:54] <rww> it is in humble thing and idk whether to buy it
[03:55] <nhaines> I have.  It's probably really awesome for someone a tiny bit more interested in science.
[03:55] <nhaines> It's fun though.
[03:55] <rww> alrighty
[03:55]  * rww spins up bitcoin-qt too
[03:55] <nhaines> heh
[03:58] <jyo> hooray for FTL
[03:59] <elky> i have actually won ftl twice this week. it has been a good week
[03:59] <jyo> Really hope their LEGO set gets approved.
[03:59] <nhaines> lies!  nobody wins FTL.
[04:00]  * rww frowns at bitcoin-qt
[04:00] <jyo> Blow up enemy ship while mantis team is transported over. That *is* the key to vitory.
[04:00] <nhaines> jyo: it's the key to something.
[04:01] <rww> i've done that so many times :(
[04:01] <nhaines> Last game I transported my mantis team over to that anaerobic race's ship.  Didn't last long.  :(
[04:01] <elky> i love the hacking thing
[04:01] <elky> it's really fun hacking their hacking
[04:02] <rww> yo dawg
[04:02] <elky> and watching their hacking drone 'splode
[04:06]  * ianorlin finds the noblenote interface a little clunky
[04:10] <pleia2> nhaines: I have 2 more 14.04 presentations coming up (saturday and tuesday), I could use more meat for my slides, happen to have yours together yet? :)
[04:11] <jyo> pleia2: You're alive! ;)
[04:11] <pleia2> jyo: mostly :)
[04:12] <nhaines> pleia2: I'm either going to write my presentation slides tonight/tomorrow or next week, depending on how this article outline shapes up.
[04:13] <pleia2> nhaines: ok, I'll work on beefing up my slides here then
[04:13] <pleia2> good luck with the article :)
[04:13] <nhaines> pleia2: yeah.  Got ambushed with a request for a 12K word article due on the 20th.  So... everything's scrambled.  :)
[04:14] <nhaines> And thanks!
[04:14] <pleia2> hehe
[04:14] <nhaines> Also I'll be talking about the Orange Box cloud.  :)
[04:15] <pleia2> I think canonical should give me one to show off
[04:15] <nhaines> +1
[04:15] <nhaines> Canonical managed to spin up 380 hosts with 75,000 VMs in 6.5 hours.
[04:16] <nhaines> Then they kept going and spun up another 25,000 VM.  As sabdfl mentioned, the silicon was slightly over committed by that point.  So AMD gave them another couple units and on 576 hosts they managed to spin up 168,000 VMs over a weekend.
[04:16] <nhaines> The time to deploy 75,000 VMs beat the previous world record speed by an hour.
[04:16] <nhaines> So yay OpenStack and Juju!
[04:17] <pleia2> :)
[04:17] <ianorlin> why do you need that many?'
[04:17] <nhaines> Why *don't* you need that many?
[04:19] <ianorlin> it would be excessive for download mirrors for lxqt
[04:19] <nhaines> MAAS now supports CentOS and Microsoft Windows too.
[04:19] <ianorlin> sorry LXQt
[04:20] <pleia2> well, these are marketed toward businesses, not basements ;)
[04:20] <nhaines> So you can just tell your MaaS server "I want Sharepoint" and it'll install Windows and Sharepoint automatically.
[04:21]  * ianorlin has Stop menu in his LXQt VM
[04:50] <pleia2> hm, I used to be able to close applications by doing a bottom swipe and pulling up a menu from a little transparent box that came up, is that gone?
[04:50] <pleia2> where "used to" is like 2 weeks ago
[04:50] <pleia2> on my tablet
[04:54] <nhaines> pleia2: yeah, they yanked out HUD.
[04:54] <pleia2> :(
[04:54] <pleia2> how am I supposed to close applications?
[04:55] <nhaines> They might get around to putting it back in eventually, some day, maybe.  No one's really working on it and no one involved in removing it is very concerned.
[04:55] <nhaines> You're not supposed to close applications, as far as I can tell.
[04:55] <pleia2> that would be fine, except the tablet goes wonky sometimes and closing stuff is the only option aside from rebooting
[04:55] <pleia2> maybe when it's more mature, like android...
[04:56] <pleia2> but even android has a kill apps option stuffed in settings somewhere
[04:56] <nhaines> In the meantime, long-pressing on an application (any application) on the Apps scope will bring up little Xes.  And you can tap those.
[04:58] <pleia2> hooray! thanks
[04:58] <nhaines> You're welcome.  :)
[04:59] <pleia2> ooh, the volume keys work now
[04:59]  * pleia2 looks at 64 unread threads in ubuntu-phone folder
[05:00] <rww> hehe
[05:00] <rww> lot of traffic on that list, indeed
[05:01] <pleia2> it ran out of battery while I was on vacation and the time reset to 1969, it was fun
[05:02]  * ianorlin found a time when it said 1969 bug in pcmanfm that is fixed now
[05:02] <pleia2> I still can't log onto my wifi network since the dialog times out before I finish
[05:07] <nhaines> pleia2: that's what you get for having an unnecessarily complex wifi password!
[05:07] <nhaines> Connect your tablet via USB to your computer and run phablet-network.
[05:28] <pleia2> nhaines: aha, I'll give that a try :)
[05:35] <nhaines> pleia2: they both use Network Manager, so phablet-network simply copies your connection file over.  :)
[05:35] <pleia2> I noticed, I don't use NM
[05:35]  * pleia2 has moved over to her laptop where she does
[05:40] <pleia2> nhaines: you're totally my hero tonight
[05:41] <nhaines> Reading the ubuntu-phone mailing list paid off!  :D
[05:41] <pleia2> hehe
[06:16] <nhaines> pleia2: there's still time to learn to write Ubuntu SDK apps and become an Ubuntu Pioneer!
[06:16] <nhaines> Just think of the free t-shirt!
[20:08] <jyo> rww: How many licks does it take to get to the tootsie pop center of Firefox's EME sandbox center?
[20:09] <jyo> s/sandbox center/sandbox/


[04:57] <draik> Is anyone here running the Ubuntu Server for x86?
[04:59] <draik> I want to know if I would be able to have a server built with Ubuntu Server (Dapper or Edgy) and have it set as my own personal server for my website. I want to host my own site on there along wtih my friend's site.
[12:39] <okaratas> hello