[16:18] <tzd> BluesKaj & trappist: hmm ok. Well i ran ubuntu 7.10 first and i didn't experience any lag at all (?) but ever since I've installed kubuntu 7.10 it lags a bit. Are there any nice ways to improve performace?
[16:18] <unagi> i cant seem to paste a folder over the network, says something about file doesnt exist
[16:19] <BluesKaj> tzd it should be fine, but don't upgrade KDE to 3.5.9 from 3.5.8
[16:19] <tzd> BluesKaj: ok, thanks :) Hmm f I run the "full uppgrade" in synaptic manager... will that upgrade KDE as well?
[16:20] <plodder> trappist: getting tons of error messages on kbuildsycoca - complaining about kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. Will log into X and try there
[16:20] <tzd> BluesKaj: *if i run*
[16:20] <BluesKaj> txd, not sure , you can check in synaptic
[16:21] <unagi> how do you copy files through the network with the prompt?
[16:21] <trappist> plodder: you're not doing it as root are you?  if so, don't.  if not, try DISPLAY=:0 kbuildsycoca
[16:21] <trappist> unagi: scp
[16:21] <tekteen> what protocol?
[16:21] <ignus> hi, can anyone tell me how to upgrade to 8.04 alpha from 7.10?
[16:21] <ahmos> !java
[16:21] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:21] <tekteen> !upgrade
[16:21] <BluesKaj> tzd , open konq or any kde app and click on Help/about kde
[16:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> ignus » go to #ubuntu+1
[16:22] <ignus> ah ok
[16:22] <ignus> thanks
[16:22] <Vedavox> !dist-updrade
[16:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-updrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:22] <Vedavox> !dist-upgrade
[16:22] <plodder> trappist: no, I was doing it on tty3, worked on X
[16:22] <tzd> BluesKaj: got it, thanks. Still on 3.5.8 :) Pheew ;)
[16:22] <trappist> plodder: ok, do the DISPLAY=:0 thing then
[16:22] <plodder> trappist: well, sort of, it said: kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : media_decropt.desktop
[16:22] <leroux> !java
[16:22] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:23] <unagi> the file or folder smb://1000mhz/C/Kubuntu/Documents/Pictures/Camera/%3F does not exist......what does this mean when im trying to copy and paste a folder over the network?
[16:23] <leroux> !driver
[16:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:23] <leroux> !ati
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> unagi » where are you pateing to?
[16:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:23] <unagi> nosrednaekim: do you mean what kind of pc?
[16:23] <trappist> unagi: no, that won't work.  but if it's a smb share, why not just mount the remote share?
[16:24] <unagi> what would that look like mount smb:blah/blah/ /media/smbshare?
[16:24] <tekteen> unagi: smbclient works for remote shares
[16:24] <nosrednaekim> unagi » no... I mean from what app to what app...
[16:25] <unagi> i dont know you guys are losing me lol im in dolphin trying to copy a folder from my home to a remote machine
[16:25] <tekteen> ok
[16:25] <trappist> unagi: more like sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=bar //machine/share /mnt/point
[16:25] <nosrednaekim> unagi » huh, well, i've never done anything with samba
[16:25] <tzd> hmm while I'm at it... i get this error message when i try to empty my thrash bin: "unable to remove catalogue /home/.Trash-1000/files/johan/.gnupg." Can someone please help me?
[16:25] <tekteen> unagi: go into konqueror
[16:26] <tekteen> are you sending it to a linux machine?
[16:26] <unagi> konq is asking for a username and password but i dont believe there is one
[16:26] <tekteen> ok
[16:26] <tekteen> are you using windows file sharing?
[16:27] <unagi> its a windows machine
[16:27] <unagi> i can print off of it
[16:27] <unagi> and i can browse it with dolphin
[16:27] <tekteen> unagi: ok
[16:27] <unagi> oh and apparently now i can browse with konq
[16:27] <tekteen> so what is the problem
[16:27] <tekteen> ?
[16:28] <unagi> i cant paste a folder
[16:28] <tekteen> ok
[16:28] <tekteen> I know the problem
[16:28] <unagi> The file or folder smb://1000mhz/C/Kubuntu/New Folder/Documents/Pictures/Camera/%3F does not exist.
[16:28] <tekteen> ok
[16:29] <trappist> unagi: %3F?
[16:29] <tekteen> are you trying to move a folder?
[16:29] <unagi> i have no idea
[16:30] <unagi> im trying to copy and paste a folder tekteen
[16:30] <tekteen> ok
[16:30] <tekteen> from a kubuntu machine to a windows?
[16:30] <unagi> yes
[16:30] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: ??
[16:30] <prince_jammys> hello
[16:30] <tekteen> have you enabled writing on the windows machine?
[16:31] <MrJigsaw> Can i PM? I need help fast :/
[16:31] <unagi> i think i fixed it
[16:31] <unagi> i dunno what it was but there was a folder named '?'
[16:31] <prince_jammys> what's going on? here is better .. i may have no clue about your problem
[16:31] <MrJigsaw> :|
[16:31] <MrJigsaw> its mouting again..
[16:31] <tekteen> go to the windows machine
[16:31] <unagi> im only transfering at 6 mb per sec what gives
[16:31] <prince_jammys> who's mounting?
[16:32] <MrJigsaw> How is it i get my harddrives name ?
[16:32] <tekteen> unagi: that is normal :/
[16:32] <prince_jammys> the device?  /dev/xxx ?
[16:32] <unagi> whats the point of a 100mb ethernet card then
[16:32] <MrJigsaw> Yes
[16:32] <tekteen> unagi: i don't know
[16:32] <MrJigsaw> I just need a fast mount. i need to get music to my eksternal and off to party.. so kinda in a hurry :)
[16:33] <tekteen> that is not the weakest link
[16:33] <tekteen> speed = slowest device
[16:33] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: you can view all mounted devices by just typing "mount"
[16:33] <MrJigsaw> it isent mounted yet..
[16:33] <prince_jammys> then sudo fdisk -l
[16:33] <MrJigsaw> thanks
[16:33] <tekteen> unagi: also divide 100 by 8
[16:34] <tekteen> unagi: it is a 100Mbs card not a 100MBs card
[16:35] <tekteen> unagi: do you get it?
[16:35] <unagi> i suppose
[16:35] <unagi> that crap always confuses me
[16:35] <tekteen> unagi: lol
[16:35] <kaminix> How do I generate an UUID usable in KDE System Settings thingie for automount of a USB-drive?
[16:36] <tekteen> unagi: it is marketing. They do not explain the diff
[16:36] <unagi> blah marketing
[16:36] <unagi> lol
[16:36] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » don't generate one... there is a unique accociated with every partition
[16:36] <kaminix> Not for my USB disk.
[16:37] <tekteen> Also I have no idea why they now have 1Gb NICs
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » I assure you, there is one
[16:37] <tekteen> :-D
[16:37] <prince_jammys> !UUID
[16:37] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> thanks prince_jammys
[16:38] <llutz> no sudo needed for showing blkids
[16:38] <prince_jammys> nosrednaekim: np, thank ubotu :)
[16:38] <tekteen> ubotu is smart
[16:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:38] <tekteen> nm XD
[16:38] <prince_jammys> ubotu anything
[16:38] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[16:39] <jpatrick> ubotu lies
[16:39] <ubotu> Mostly just statistics, but yeah.
[16:40]  * nosrednaekim <3 ubotu
[16:40] <nosrednaekim> jpatrick » a lover of Mark Twain are you?
[16:40] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: nop..
[16:41] <nosrednaekim> "there are three types of lies: White Lies, damn lies, and statistics"
[16:42] <HTML-insane> Lo peeps
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> hey HTML-insane
[16:43] <tekteen> hi
[16:43] <HTML-insane> I just got Beryl for Feisty...
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> HTML-insane » doesn't fiesty have compiz-fusion?
[16:43] <tekteen> I don't think so
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> !info compiz-fusion (fiesty)
[16:43] <ubotu> Package compiz-fusion does not exist in gutsy
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> ah
[16:44] <BluesKaj> HTML-insane, usually we greet each other in english ..not aim or gaim ot IM lingo :)
[16:44] <HTML-insane> I don't know - I don't know the repositries for Fusion, and couldn't download the settings manager
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> HTML-insane » ah... well beryl works then
[16:44] <HTML-insane> Exactly.
[16:44] <HTML-insane> That, and Gutsy didn't like my laptop so I had to down-grade.
[16:44] <HTML-insane> (HP ze2000)
[16:45] <tekteen> I had the same prob
[16:45] <tekteen> I think hp went down hill in gutsy
[16:45] <HTML-insane> Yes, it was only AFTER I downloaded it that I saw the forums.
[16:45] <tekteen> I got it working
[16:46] <tekteen> each part at a time :-)
[16:46] <HTML-insane> Well, it's not that it crashed - it just didn't like the graphics card...
[16:46] <HTML-insane> and no graphics card = no Compiz-fusion, I think.
[16:47] <tekteen> HTML-insane: mine did not like the card either
[16:47] <tekteen> I had to use safe graphics mode
[16:47] <tekteen> then install the restricted drivers
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ati mobile graphics = no compiz , I'm afraid
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> not so.
[16:48] <SlimeyPete> I used compiz with an ATI mobile Radeon
[16:48] <tekteen> same
[16:48] <tzd> Can anyone help me with a problem when trying to extract a bz2 file via konsole please?
[16:48] <HTML-insane> In Linux, where there's a will there's a way...
[16:48] <SlimeyPete> I just had to install AIGLX. Or XGL.... whichever one doesn't come with Kubuntu ;)
[16:48] <tekteen> tzd: tar.bz2?
[16:48] <tekteen> or bz2?
[16:48] <HTML-insane> that's why I want to get better at the nitty-gritty stuff like code and the command line
[16:48] <tzd> tekteen: tar.bz2
[16:49] <llutz> tzd tar xjf file.tar.bz2
[16:49] <tekteen> tar -xvjf TAR_FILE
[16:49] <tzd> tekteen: i type this: tar xzvf kalarm-1.5.2.kde3.tar.bz2
[16:49] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPete, were you able to run games as well ?
[16:49] <tekteen> j not z
[16:49] <HTML-insane> SlimeyPete: I think it's XGL that doesn't come with it.
[16:49] <llutz> tzd "z" = gzip
[16:49] <SlimeyPete> BluesKaj: didn't try.
[16:49] <tzd> aaah!!!! thanks a lot guys! now i get it...gah :D
[16:49] <SlimeyPete> video worked fine though
[16:50] <tekteen> tzd: learn to read the man pages :-D
[16:50] <tzd> so "j" is for bunzip2?
[16:50] <HTML-insane> I've still got problems with my graphics card...
[16:50] <tekteen> yep
[16:50] <nosrednaekim> XGL does not work with games
[16:50] <HTML-insane> Sorry, webcam*
[16:50] <HTML-insane> God, I've got 101 things in my head at once...
[16:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, SlimeyPete , I think that's the trade off with compiz on ati mobile or onboard graphics.
[16:51] <tekteen> tzd: the man pages are you friend :-)
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> HTML-insane » hope you have more than 101
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> :)
[16:51] <plodder> trappist: kbuildsycoca did work but did nothing to alleviate my problems.  Hm... need time to reflect methins
[16:51] <HTML-insane> OK, OK, 101 concious thoughts.
[16:51] <HTML-insane> ¬_¬
[16:51] <tzd> tekteen: hehe i know about those as well.. just had a beginners course in linux in my uni. Learned that "z" was the unzip parameter and i was so convinced that something else was the issue... One day I'll think rationally ,P
[16:51] <dverzolla> Anyone knows software to dvd authoring? for Linux...
[16:52] <unagi> rm: cannot remove directory `Shared/': File exists what does this mean
[16:52] <HTML-insane> Hmm...
[16:52] <llutz> dverzolla: (q)dvdauthor, devede, mandvd, kmediafactory etc.pp
[16:52] <tekteen> tzd: sometimes it is also fun to just wing it
[16:52] <tekteen> tzd: one time I tried --bzip2
[16:52] <tekteen> and it worked :-)
[16:53] <HTML-insane> unagi: I think that means there's files inside it, in which case you'll have to use -r or --recursive.
[16:53] <HTML-insane> I THINK.
[16:53] <dverzolla> llutz: Has anyone where I can authoring via command line?
[16:53] <llutz> dverzolla: dvdauthor
[16:53] <tzd> tekteen: hehe I'll keep that in mind :D Sweet move though ;)
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> HTML-insane » correct :)
[16:53] <dverzolla> llutz: Hmm... I will try. Thanks.
[16:54] <linuxninja_> Hi to all
[16:54] <tekteen> tzd: the people who write these things want it to be easy
[16:54] <unagi> i used -r HTML-insane =/
[16:54] <tekteen> linuxninja_: AH! a ninja
[16:55] <bassem> i need PHP client for kubuntu
[16:55] <tekteen> !hi | linuxninja_
[16:55] <ubotu> linuxninja_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:55] <linuxninja_> more like a wanna be ninja when it comes to linux
[16:55] <tekteen> bassem: like PHP?
[16:55] <tekteen> bassem: you need an interpreter?
[16:55] <kaminix> Hmm... I have ONLY specified UUID 137b1fde-475a-4c11-968b-4313eca863ff which according to blkid points to device /dev/sdb at the moment, but when I mount it via the KDE mount manager it keeps mounting /dev/sdc1 which is not even in the manager atm. Why?
[16:56] <tekteen> linuxninja_: we have all been at that stage
[16:56] <flipstar> kaminix: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -al
[16:56] <tzd> tekteen: ah yeah, that's something i've noticed. All the basic commands arre pretty easy :D Love the whole alias ideá although I'm to afraid to use it too much since I'll end up remembering my own alias instead of the original cmds which won't be any fun when working on a different *nix computer ;)
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » are you mounting by UUID?
[16:56] <linuxninja_> I'm more like a thug right now
[16:56] <flipstar> a thug ninja ?
[16:56] <tekteen> tzd: that is why I do not use it
[16:57] <bassem> tekteen: look ... when i save files in .PHP format and try to open it using firefox ... it does nothing but open the source code again with Kate :S
[16:57] <tekteen> ok
[16:57] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: I'm trying, since it's USB disk their /dev/name tend to change with each boot...; flipstar: It lists the same thing as blkid
[16:57] <tzd> tekteen: :)
[16:57] <tekteen> the issue is that you do not have a web server running
[16:57] <linuxninja_> no a thug training to be a novice ninja
[16:57] <tekteen> bassem: ^
[16:58] <bassem> sorry but i cant get u :S
[16:58] <bassem> tekteen:
[16:58] <tekteen> bassem: what you need to do is run the php command
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » huh... well mount by UUID has always worked for me.
[16:58] <tekteen> the apache webserver does that
[16:59] <HTML-insane> unagi (about your previous problem): Try using -r, and -f (--force). If that doesn't work, I'm stumped.
[16:59] <tekteen> I guess you need to download php
[16:59] <tekteen> then use it to create a html file
[16:59] <prince_jammys> bassem: you need to install php and configure it so that php files get parsed and executed
[16:59] <tekteen> then display iy
[16:59] <tekteen> it
[17:00] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: And if I change from automatic to ext3, it freaks out and ask me "'' does not seem to be a device and the option 'bind' has not been specified in the "Advanced" page."
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » is the USB stick ext3?
[17:00] <flipstar> kaminix: may you could try mounting without the kde mount manager and see what happens
[17:00] <bassem> will give it a try
[17:00] <kaminix> Not a USB-stick, USB-HDD, but yeah... it's ext3.
[17:01] <kaminix> flipstar: It mounts fine if I turn them on/off inside KDE.
[17:02] <flipstar> but wrong device you said..maybe its the kde mount manager i mentioned ..
[17:03] <kaminix> No, it's the KDE Mount Manager thingie in System Setting which mounts it wrong when I try to automatize it.  However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:05] <prince_jammys> bassem: the only way i know is to install it in conjunction with apache.  the above link directs you.   i don't know how to install it on its own
[17:06] <HTML-insane> unagi: You've stumped my basic knowledge -.-
[17:06] <prince_jammys> bassem: you would then be running a server which would parse any php files that are stored in /var/www.  if you then browse to http://localhost,  you can view the html output of the files.
[17:07] <prince_jammys> bassem: if you do this, make sure you are only serving to localhost, unless you are serving your php on a network
[17:08] <bassem> prince_jammys: yea i will ... thanks alot
[17:12] <unagi> whenever i try to sudo rm -r -f /path/to/ folder i get 'cannot rm: file exists:' what is this
[17:13] <teo-> hi i want to ask something.. i have installed backtrack and and fix the boot from ubuntu grub.. and now i have only ubuntu and windows how to add the backtrack os to the list???
[17:15] <flipstar> unagi: is this on an mounted drive ?
[17:15] <flipstar> probably ntfs ?
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> teo- » backtrack? never heard of it
[17:16] <rickest> unagi: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#emptydir
[17:18] <teo-> nosrednaekim it a linux edition.. i need to know on what partition is ti on hd0,2 hd0,0
[17:18] <teo-> but i dont know how:S
[17:19] <nosrednaekim> teo- » is it on the first or third partition?
[17:19] <kaminix> What would cause a disc to have permission denied on a KDE automount?
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> teo- » it might be better to ask the backtrack people
[17:20] <teo-> ok thnx..
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » if you don't have ti set to be mountable by all users
[17:20] <llutz> teo-: you should know, since you've installed it
[17:20] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: I haven't done any settings for it in KDE, is it in tune2fs?
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » no.... in the mounconfig manager.... this is the same USB hard drive?
[17:21] <teo-> llutz it's on hd0,2 but i dont know how to configure the file menu.lst
[17:21] <llutz> teo-: did it write its bootloader to partition?
[17:21] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: Yup, one of them. Have two. I got the same error on two of my friends portably usb drives last week.
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » yeah.. in the mount manager, set the drive to be able to  mountable by all users
[17:22] <teo-> llutz yes and i fix it.. with the ubuntu grub coz i want to use the boot from ubuntu..
[17:22] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: That mountconfig manager is the one in System Settings I was using earlier.
[17:22] <llutz> teo-: so it wrote to MBR, _not_ to partition
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> yes
[17:23] <teo-> llutz yes
[17:25] <llutz> teo-: mount /dev/sda3, look into /media/sda3/boot/grub/menu.lst  and take the entry to your desired menu.lst
[17:25] <harmental> hey guys....what does the kded process do??? It's been eating my resources down since my upgrade to kde 3.5.9
[17:25] <teo-> ok
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> harmental » communications between knetworkmanager and KDE apps to alert them if you are online or not
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> harmental » perfectly fine to kill it
[17:28] <harmental> nosrednaekim: is it a new feature of 3.5.9? i didnt have this problem unitl yesterday...also...how can i disable it at boot?
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> harmental » system settings->advanced->services
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> harmental » its been around fo a while
[17:31] <peto> i installed updates and my system is running veeeeeery slow now, whats wrong? can i fix it?
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> peto » check whats using the most proccesing time with "top"
[17:32] <peto> how can i do that
[17:32] <harmental> nosrednaekim: its not there...i guess that some program is triggering it then :o§
[17:33] <peto> performance monitor?
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> peto » open a konsole and run "top"
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> harmental » in system services?
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> ah! its "service manager"
[17:34] <peto> nosrednaekim what do you need to know
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> peto » no.. konsole... the terminal application
[17:35] <harmental> nosrednaekim: yeap
[17:35] <peto> nosrednaekim i am looking at result already, but what do you need to know
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> peto » whats the top process?
[17:35] <peto> Xorg
[17:36] <peto> 62%
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> peto » are you running XGL?
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> yeah... you are..
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> how did you install your nvidia drivers?
[17:36] <peto> nosrednaekim i think so
[17:37] <peto> nosrednaekim can i fix it?
[17:37] <Cold_Inz> Hi, I've got one question: Kubuntu is a KDE version as far as I know, does removing it mess things up, or ?
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> peto » how did you install your nvidia drivers?
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> Cold_Inz » like, for GNOME?
[17:38] <Cold_Inz> for example
[17:38] <peto> nosrednaekim restricted drivers
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> Cold_Inz » nope, removing it should do a thing..
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> peto » check if they are installed...
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> after the update.. things can happem
[17:39] <Cold_Inz> nosrednaekim: ok thank you
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> *shouldn't
[17:39] <peto> nosrednaekim no, its not in use
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> peto » enable it
[17:40] <peto> nosrednaekim and there is one more problem, my adpet is not working proper
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> uhh whats it doing?
[17:43] <vijay_> hi
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> hey vijay_
[17:44] <marek__> hej
[17:44] <o-dog> hi all
[17:44] <o-dog> i just downloaded an iconpack for my kde
[17:44] <o-dog> but it says that the index.theme isn't valid
[17:44] <o-dog> what now?
[17:44] <kubuntu> I am new to kubuntu and I need to install alsa-driver 1.0.16 but I can only get a fix on alsa 1.0.14, what do I need to change to get the new version in synaptic?
[17:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> o-dog: get another one
[17:45] <jussi01> kubuntu: why d you need 1.06?
[17:45] <vijay_> whenever i open add/remove or adept fine error massage:-
[17:45] <John232> How do I mount a floppy?
[17:45] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu » you'll probably need to install .16 from source
[17:45] <vijay_> Will not save configuration.
[17:45] <vijay_> Configuration file "/home/vijay/.kde/share/config/adept_managerrc" not writable.
[17:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> kubuntu: you *need* 1.0.15, probably because of the new sound chipset.
[17:45] <kubuntu> otherwise I got no sound jussi01
[17:46] <jussi01> kubuntu: for intel hda?
[17:46] <kubuntu> I got hda-intel ICH8
[17:46] <jussi01> !intelhda
[17:46] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> vijay_ » run "rm /home/vijay/.kde/share/config/adept_managerrc"
[17:46] <John232> How do I mount a floppy?
[17:46] <kubuntu> and on previous stuff I couldn't get sound with 1.0.15
[17:47] <vijay_> ok
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> !floppy
[17:47] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[17:47] <John232> ty
[17:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: so do you know if hardy is actually going to use the newest alsa?
[17:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> because these problems are really irritating, and completely preventable
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> whats the package name?
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> !into alsa-utils (hardy)
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> !info alsa-utils (hardy)
[17:49] <o-dog> well, installed another pack and still not valid
[17:49] <ubotu> alsa-utils (source: alsa-utils): ALSA utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.15-3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 1828 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa lpia m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[17:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh thank $DEITY
[17:49] <ibou> is it possible to get itunes ?
[17:50] <John232> ^X Exit
[17:50] <John232> i type ^X and it wont exit
[17:50] <Pici> ^X is a way of saying ctrl-x
[17:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's because you don't type ^X
[17:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes, ctrl-x
[17:51] <John232> ok
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, which kde is the default in Hardy , 3.5.8 or .9  ?
[17:52] <flipstar> 3.5.9
[17:53] <edulix__> BluesKaj: what about KDE 4?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> 3.5.9 is quite buggy...i'm sorry now that i installed it ...konq is especially hang and cpu hog-prone
[17:54] <vijay_> hellow nosrednaekim
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> yes vijay_ ?
[17:54] <vijay_> i did but again getting Will not save configuration.......
[17:55] <BluesKaj> edulix__, tried it ... screwed up some of my fav apps
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> vijay_ » did it actually delete the file(any errors?)
[17:56] <vijay_> ya
[17:58] <vijay_> now the massage is..
[17:58] <vijay_> rm: cannot remove `/home/vijay/.kde/share/config/adept_managerrc': No such file or directory
[17:58] <unagi> whenever i try to sudo rm -r -f /path/to/ folder i get 'cannot rm: file exists:' what is this
[17:58] <navetz> how can i view fla videos without uploading them to a website?
[17:59] <stdin> MOTU Q&A Session in #ubuntu-classroom in a bit
[18:05] <o-dog> hm
[18:05] <o-dog> i got this other problem too
[18:06] <o-dog> when starting the pc my keyboard doesn't use all the keys in the login screen
[18:06] <o-dog> meaning that some of them work, but not all
[18:06] <o-dog> i can login from console and it works fine
[18:06] <rickest> unagi: did the answers in the other channel not solve that problem?
[18:06] <o-dog> and in x it also works fine
[18:06] <o-dog> but it bugs me to log in every single time from console
[18:06] <GRay> ug
[18:06] <GRay> а
[18:06] <GRay> п
[18:07] <o-dog> so does anyone have any ideas where the bug might be?
[18:07] <GRay> русский
[18:07] <unagi> i wasnt aware that i got answers
[18:08] <rickest> [10:16:08]      rickest | unagi: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#emptydir
[18:08] <rickest> unagi: it was this channel, sorry :) and another guy was asking if it was an NTFS-mounted drive
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> vijay_ » try starting adept again I guess
[18:09] <unagi> im about to reformat
[18:09] <unagi> i get nervous around this time
[18:09] <vijay__> ok
[18:09] <unagi> =)
[18:09] <rickest> unagi: it's basically a LOCALE problem. that link (and the item it links to) explains
[18:09] <unagi> the 'did i forget to back up anything' stage
[18:09] <mhollisjr> what's a decent root, home split? I have 30gb for root and 70gb for home? does that sound reasonable?
[18:09] <mhollisjr> root being / not /root
[18:10] <tekteen> mhollisjr: I have a 10 GB /
[18:11] <mhollisjr> well I'm new to the distro and never split off home before this install, so I never paid that much attention to what all goes there, do you see me running into any problems with a split like that?
[18:11] <tekteen> mhollisjr: I would lower it to 20GB at most
[18:11] <tekteen> nope
[18:11] <rickest> mhollisjr: do you really even need to split it up? on work machines with AIX and SunOS that will last for 8-10 years that makes sense but for home distros I'm not sure it's worth the trouble
[18:11] <jussi01> !home
[18:11] <ubotu> Your home folder is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For mounting your home folder on a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[18:11] <tekteen> you would not have an issue
[18:11] <vijay__> hey now the massage is.. "read only mode: need root privlilegs..." ........
[18:12] <tekteen> vijay__: use sudo
[18:12] <mhollisjr> well normally I'd agree, however being new to the distro I'm sure to mess things up a bit beyond my capabilities, it's more of a cover your butt move
[18:12] <o-dog> what was the command to edit manually all the xconfs in console?
[18:12] <kubuntu> I want to use a simple console like in gnome, what do I need to install for it ?
[18:13] <tekteen> kubuntu: use konsole
[18:14] <mhollisjr> how big of a difference would packaging be between versions? for example would a feisty package work on gutsy, or a gutsy on hardy?
[18:14] <tekteen> mhollisjr: it PROBABLY work
[18:15] <tekteen> mhollisjr: but if it doesn't it will mess it up
[18:15] <mhollisjr> in most cases wouldn't cause any harm outside the package?
[18:15] <mhollisjr> wouldn't = would it
[18:15] <tekteen> yes. BUT I would NOT do it
[18:16] <dam> can anyone tell me why every time I watch a streamed vid it's kindda rigid ?
[18:16] <AndreSTC> is there a way to check processor core temperature?
[18:16] <flipstar> lm_sensors can do that
[18:16] <llutz> lmsensors
[18:17] <AndreSTC> ok
[18:17] <mhollisjr> -nod- well reason I'm asking is I have hardy (I would ask there, but I get better answers here, so forget I said that) and wine 0.9.55 is broken on it 0.9.56 seems to be available for gutsy, and I'm just wondering if it would be a temporary fix
[18:18] <jpatrick> !info yakuake > kubuntu
[18:18] <kubuntu> tekteen: I know I can use that, but what do I need to install to have the one from gnome ?
[18:18] <mhollisjr> Yakauke is the only way to go ^^
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> vijay__ » run it with kdesudo
[18:19] <tekteen> kubuntu: yakuake is good
[18:19] <kubuntu> owkey, I'll check it out
[18:19] <tekteen> kubuntu: the gnome terminal is gnome-terminal (duh)
[18:20] <tekteen> kubuntu: but it will install a few billion libraries
[18:20] <kubuntu> I see hmm
[18:21] <kubuntu> well is there another nice terminal thats a simple one ?
[18:22] <tekteen> I do not understand simple. what do you not like about konsole?
[18:22] <nosrednaekim> xterm
[18:22] <giuseppe> hi, anyone use superkaramba?
[18:22] <mhollisjr> I know it's been mentioned already, but I really do speak highly of Yakuake, it's soo simply to get to when you need it
[18:22]  * tekteen forgot about xtemr
[18:22] <rickest> kubuntu: mrxvt
[18:22] <mhollisjr> simple
[18:22] <bioss> hello
[18:22] <tekteen> !hi| bioss
[18:22] <ubotu> bioss: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:23] <kubuntu> k
[18:23] <bioss> its my first time in kubuntu on my laptop
[18:23] <giuseppe> so, does anyone know superkaramba?
[18:24] <bioss> does anybody know how to get my power boton to function with kubuntu on a hp dv600
[18:24] <tekteen> bioss: dv6000?
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> bioss » what do you want the power button to do?
[18:26] <bioss> since i installed kubuntu in my laptop the power boton aint working and no sound is coming out of the integrated speakears but it works fine with headsets
[18:28] <kubuntu> damned I can't get my audio to work :s
[18:28] <kubuntu> I followed this guid:
[18:28] <kubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:28] <kubuntu> and then at line: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[18:28] <kubuntu> the thing is that I don't have card0
[18:28] <kubuntu> I got a file named cards
[18:28] <kubuntu> but that gives:
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> !HDA Intel | bioss
[18:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:29] <kubuntu> kubuntu@kubuntu-laptop:/proc/asound$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[18:29] <kubuntu> --- no soundcards ---
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> !HDA | bioss
[18:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> !IntelHDA | bioss
[18:29] <ubotu> bioss: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:29] <kubuntu> I already followed that ... <_<
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu » that was for bioss
[18:30] <bioss> does this works for gutsy?
[18:30] <kubuntu> ah
[18:30] <bioss> the kernel
[18:32] <bioss> the other thing is with the new linux generic img that seem to corrupt the system has anyone had this?
[18:33] <kubuntu> hmm I got a lot of those errors:
[18:33] <kubuntu> [   30.204523] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages
[18:33] <kubuntu> [   30.204552] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_pcm_lib_ioct
[18:33] <kubuntu> someone any idea how to solve that ?
[18:35] <mhollisjr> hmph ok what's the proper package to install to use compiz? assuming that it was not enabled by default and that I do have the required hardware
[18:35] <flipstar> !compiz | mhollisjr
[18:35] <ubotu> mhollisjr: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:35] <bioss> install beryl
[18:35] <jussi01> !beryl
[18:35] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:35] <mhollisjr> -chuckle-
[18:35] <mhollisjr> thanks Ubotu
[18:35] <jussi01> !thanks
[18:35] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[18:36] <bioss> i know but seems his comp dsnt cards
[18:36] <mhollisjr> er thanks flipstar! lol
[18:36]  * jussi01 coughs...
[18:36] <mhollisjr> and jussi01 ^^
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> bioss » the new kernel doesn't work?
[18:37] <John232> how do you untar?
[18:37] <John232> tar **** filename?
[18:37] <flipstar> tar -xf <file>
[18:37] <John232> the **** is what i dont know
[18:38] <John232> ok
[18:38] <rickest> John232: tar xvf name-of-tar.tar
[18:38] <ubuntu> hi all
[18:38] <John232> ok
[18:38] <rickest> John232: or if it's a .tgz, tar xzvf name-of-tar.tgz
[18:38] <John232> ok
[18:38] <rickest> John232: finally, if it's a bz2, tar jxvf name-of-tar.bz2
[18:38] <John232> k
[18:38] <ubuntu> sorry, i am not well experienced in english cause I live in russia... I have one small problem could someone help me?
[18:38] <stdin> rickest: tar will detect if it;s plain, gzipped or bzipped, just -xf will do
[18:39] <rickest> stdin: super
[18:39] <SlimeyPete> !ru
[18:39] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:39] <ubuntu> :D
[18:41] <magarelli> salve a tutti
[18:41] <mhollisjr> er hmm
[18:41] <mhollisjr> !compiz
[18:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:42] <mhollisjr> that information refers to feisty, I'm not using feisty
[18:42] <mhollisjr> would it still be compatible?
[18:42] <magarelli> qualcuno di voi sa dirmi il percorso dove vengono messi i programmi in kubuntu?
[18:42] <stdin> !it
[18:42] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:42] <magarelli> sorry
[18:42] <stdin> mhollisjr: "This guide shows how to get it running on Ubuntu and Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) as well as Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy). " < read it
[18:43] <mhollisjr> yeah I can follow the basics, but the repos arn't available
[18:43] <mhollisjr> well I'll just hope that the packages are still there
[18:43] <stdin> "If you're on Feisty, we need to add a third party repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list. (Not needed on Gutsy) "
[18:43] <stdin> read it again?
[18:43] <mhollisjr> er ><
[18:43]  * mhollisjr is blind
[18:43] <mhollisjr> thank you ><
[18:44] <dragon> hi all
[18:45] <jussi01> hi dragon
[18:45] <dragon> how are u all
[18:45] <mhollisjr> hmm
[18:46] <mhollisjr> ok following the directions it still crashes X, I'll see what the channel hsa to say
[18:46] <mhollisjr> !compiz
[18:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:46] <jussi01> dragon: how can we help?
[18:46] <dragon> yes
[18:46] <dragon> i maked ablog about ubuntu helping the arab people to know ubuntu good
[18:47] <dragon> i'd like to show u
[18:47] <dragon> it
[18:47] <jussi01> dragon: that sounds more appropriate for #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:47] <stdin> or #ubuntu-sa
[18:47] <BluesKaj> what's the dns look up command again ?
[18:47] <dragon> http://arabicubuntusupport.wordpress.com/
[18:47] <dragon> this is my site
[18:48] <dragon> and may do one for kubuntu
[18:48] <SlimeyPete> BluesKaj: dig?
[18:48] <flipstar> BluesKaj: just ping it
[18:48] <dragon> i'd like to know your opnion
[18:48] <stdin> dragon: #ubuntu-sa is the arabic local/language channel, you'll get more readers in there
[18:48] <jussi01> dragon: as we said, ask in #ubuntu-sa or #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[18:48] <dragon> thanks
[18:48] <flipstar> dig is probably more detailled
[18:49] <stdin> BluesKaj: host
[18:50] <BluesKaj> using dig but in this case it doesn't work
[18:51] <dam> can anyone help me? when I'm viewing a vid on youtube for example it starts laging even if it's completly loaded and of good quality
[18:52] <bioss> does anyone know how to fixed a hp dv6000 sound, with headset it works find but the internal speakears dosnt work
[18:52] <dragon> hey no one replay at me there
[18:53] <dragon> in the arabic chat
[18:53] <dragon> they may sleeping
[18:53] <tekteen> bioss: my speakers work fine
[18:53] <tekteen> bioss: I have a dv6604nr
[18:53] <bioss> tekteen out of the box?
[18:54] <bioss> do you have a hda intel sound card
[18:54] <tekteen> bioss: well... the speakers did not shut off when I plugged in a head set
[18:54] <tekteen> yep
[18:54] <bioss> thats normal
[18:55] <chartoin> hi guys
[18:55] <tekteen> wait
[18:55] <chartoin> I need help today
[18:55] <BluesKaj> bioss, check alsamixer in the konsole make sure you have your spkrs unmuted
[18:55] <bioss> cheking
[18:55] <chartoin> I have been trying for a long time to get compiz working on my kubuntu
[18:55] <chartoin> Please help me get it working
[18:55] <BluesKaj> ok BBL, errands to do
[18:56] <tekteen> bioss: try this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HP_Pavillion_dv6000_(dv6604nr)
[18:56] <bioss> yes everithyng is fine in the alsa
[18:57] <flipstar> chartoin: what the problem ? btw --> #compiz-fusion
[18:57] <jussi01> chartoin: which gfx card?
[18:57] <bioss> looks promising doit right kknow
[18:58] <chartoin> I have ATI radeon express 200
[18:58] <chartoin> its an onboard graphics card
[18:58] <jussi01> ouch
[18:58] <chartoin> and my amarok doesnst start
[18:58] <SlimeyPete> my radeon 300m runs compiz reasonably well
[18:59] <SlimeyPete> but it requires xgl.
[18:59] <Seren__> can anyone tell me how do you disable kwallet manager ?
[18:59] <Seren__> the constant pop up are annoying
[18:59] <chartoin> my xgl session doesn't start
[19:02] <bioss> rebooting the machine be back in a couple of minutes
[19:11] <kubuntu> wow damn after  monts I got finally sound \o/
[19:11] <kubuntu> btw, whats a good program to watch movies ?
[19:11] <tekteen> kubuntu: kaffiene
[19:11] <Oloughlin75> vlc kubuntu
[19:11] <tekteen> it is the default
[19:12] <flipstar> (g)mplayer rocks
[19:13] <mhollisjr> is there an ubuntu equivilancy of windows' audio "Default Input Device"
[19:13] <mhollisjr> and where would I set it?
[19:15] <band4lif1> d
[19:15] <mhollisjr> I don't mind messing with config files if I know which one I'm looking for
[19:18] <L3ttuc3> i've got kde installed from kubuntu-desktop, however, having both that and gnome are giving me some headaches: each time i eject a cd/dvd from my drive under gnome, i get an error message from kio_media_mounthelped telling me: unmounting failed due to following error: device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by hal. presumably that is because it is already being handled by gnome
[19:18] <L3ttuc3> -mount... how do i prevent conflicts between the two short of unistalling? and how do i preserver functionality in kde?
[19:21] <MartinCleaver> I am partitioning: what's a reasonable amount for an kubuntu operating system install, without user data.
[19:21] <MartinCleaver> ?
[19:21] <chartoin> It seems that my graphics card is not installed properly
[19:21] <kubuntu> hhow to ask stuff to the boot? I want to install compiz but it doesn't work with just compiz in synaptic
[19:21] <flipstar> MartinCleaver: 5gb should be enough
[19:21] <ashais_> Umm... can someone explain me how to use an .msi installer with Cadega ?
[19:22] <Oloughlin75> kubuntu: run "compiz --replace"
[19:22] <MartinCleaver> Great, thanks flipstar
[19:22] <Oloughlin75> kubuntu: run "kwin --replace" if compiz is messed up
[19:23] <kubuntu> k
[19:27] <kubuntu> damned
[19:27] <kubuntu> stuffs are flipping :/
[19:30] <Oloughlin75> kubuntu: run "kwin --replace" if compiz is messed up
[19:31] <chartoin> can someone help me config my gfx card
[19:31] <Oloughlin75> chartoin: whats wrong with it?
[19:31] <chartoin> I get this error when i use flgrxinfo
[19:32] <chartoin> hold on
[19:32] <chartoin> I'll pastebin the output
[19:32] <Oloughlin75> ok
[19:33] <chartoin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56983/
[19:33] <chartoin> there you go
[19:34] <flipstar> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[19:34] <Oloughlin75> look like libgl isnt installed
[19:34] <chartoin> I was following this guide btw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[19:34] <chartoin> how do I install it?
[19:34] <Oloughlin75> chartoin: do what flipstar said
[19:34] <chartoin> if its helpful, amarok doen;t start and ati catalyst control doesn't start
[19:34] <flipstar> open adept and type nvidia-glx
[19:35] <chartoin> I have ati card
[19:35] <chartoin> ati radeon xpress 200
[19:35] <martijn81> what aret the differences between normal, server and oem install?
[19:35] <martijn81> -t
[19:35] <kaminix> How do I check if there are any drivers available for my laptop's built-in speakers?
[19:35] <Oloughlin75> !audio
[19:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:35] <chartoin> is it ok to install nvidia drivers?
[19:35] <Oloughlin75> !find ati
[19:35] <ubotu> Found: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-gutenprint, foomatic-db-hpijs (and 147 others)
[19:36] <jpatrick> martijn81: oem is for companies, server -> base (no gui)
[19:36] <Marbug> whats a good program for msn? where you have a lot of options, have cam and chat even when others are offline
[19:36] <martijn81> kaminix: afaik it works out of the box or it doesn't, but don't pin this on me
[19:37] <Oloughlin75> Marbug: amsn is supposed to have most of msn messenger's features, iv never used it though
[19:37] <martijn81> Marbug: kopete or amsn are good
[19:37] <martijn81> i use kopete
[19:37] <martijn81> because it is the default
[19:38] <chartoin> so what about ati?
[19:38] <chartoin> what should I do about it
[19:38] <Marbug> I'm also using kopette but some stuff doesn't work, and when people are offline it doesn't send anything or do I need to install addons ?
[19:38] <kaminix> martijn81: Sort of what I thought. Quite strange though, one would think the easiest way to do built-in speakers for a laptop would be to make it a "this or that" option in the hardware. :s Don't get it why I would need drivers for speakers really. :p
[19:38]  * Signil is away: Gone away for now.
[19:40] <stdin> !away > Signil
[19:41] <Oloughlin75> kaminix: the driver is what interacts with the hardware
[19:42] <chartoin> Oloughlin75. can you help me out?
[19:43] <Oloughlin75> chartoin: ive never used ATI card before, try just going into system settings -> advanced tab, and enabling the restriced dirver. its a lot easier than installing everything by hand
[19:44] <chartoin> what option do I chose in advanced tab
[19:48] <martijn81> chartoin: it is ok to install them if you need them
[19:48] <martijn81> it's your choise
[19:51] <skyline05> so anyone here a regular ubuntu user?
[19:52] <jpatrick> skyline05: regular?
[19:52] <skyline05> someone that knows ubuntu better than I do
[19:52] <skyline05> and I'm new to it
[19:53] <flipstar> ubuntu in #ubuntu this here is kubuntu
[19:53] <tekteen> skyline05: we are kubuntu users
[19:53] <skyline05> ok so whats the channel for ubuntu 7.10?
[19:53] <tekteen> #ubuntu
[19:53] <skyline05> thanks
[19:55] <bigb> hi, which is the best way to share files between 2 computers with ubuntu?
[19:55] <Oloughlin75> how do i extract a passworded rar?
[19:55] <rickest> bigb: by share to you mean xfer or access one copy from both computers?
[19:56] <prince_jammys> Oloughlin75: have you installed "unrar"?
[19:56] <jpatrick> !info rsync | bigb
[19:56] <ubotu> bigb: rsync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[19:56] <jpatrick> !info sshfs | bigd
[19:56] <ubotu> bigd: sshfs (source: sshfs-fuse): filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-2.1 (gutsy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB
[19:56] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys: no, ark or tar wont do it?
[19:57] <prince_jammys> Oloughlin75: if so, you can use that command to extract it (man unrar for details, i don't remember).  But even with unrar installed i can't get ark to do it, so i use file-roller
[19:57] <stdin> Oloughlin75: rar is a non-free format, it can't be included by default so you have to install it your self
[19:57] <rickest> Oloughlin75: unrar xp[password] file.rar
[19:58] <bigb> rickest: both
[19:59] <jpatrick> bigb: ssh is your friend :D
[19:59] <flipstar> Oloughlin75: if you install unrar ark probably can handle .rar's
[19:59] <jpatrick> !ssh | bigb
[19:59] <ubotu> bigb: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[19:59] <Oloughlin75> flipstar: itll extract rar that dont have a password
[20:00] <bigb> thanks a lot for your help
[20:00] <jpatrick> bigb: you're more than welcome
[20:01] <flipstar> Oloughlin75: hm file-roller definitive can handle with password protected .rar's else you could try the command line version
[20:01] <Oloughlin75> flipstar: unrar is working for me
[20:01] <Oloughlin75> or not
[20:02] <Oloughlin75> woops wrong pas
[20:03] <dotzzz> !paste
[20:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:03] <rickest> bigb: as others have said, scp or rsync to xfer (most prefer 'rsync -e ssh'), or sshfs to mount a remote filesystem over ssh
[20:03] <npurciful> hey guys i have a problem, this morning when i wokeup my computer did have sound, I pipe the sound though my card out digital coax, i dont have stereo sound mp3 videos and such, but i do have s/pdif it still works
[20:04] <MartinCleaver> Dumb question, I know, how much in GB is 55053104 1k blocks?
[20:04] <MartinCleaver> I ask because I have
[20:04] <MartinCleaver> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-CentosOS
[20:04] <MartinCleaver>                       99190192  55053228  39016964  59% /
[20:04] <MartinCleaver> And I want to make sure that the 5GB that flipstar mentioned is reasonable given my current usage
[20:06] <stdin> MartinCleaver: use "df -h" to get human readable output
[20:07] <MartinCleaver> great. thanks. Shows I learnt unix 12 years ago before there was a -h (or that I never read the man page)
[20:08] <MartinCleaver> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-CentosOS
[20:08] <MartinCleaver>                        95G   53G   38G  59% /
[20:08]  * MartinCleaver wonders how the hell he's using 53GB on the OS partition
[20:09] <flipstar> MartinCleaver: filelight is very good to discover such things
[20:11] <MartinCleaver> thx
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> whats that KDE program to see your file usage graphically?
[20:16] <MartinCleaver> filelight?
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> sounds good
[20:17]  * MartinCleaver asked the same q about 10 mins ago
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> 30 gig home DIR and i'm not sure whats using it all
[20:17] <SlimeyPete> why not just use "du -hs ~/*"?
[20:18]  * nosrednaekim looks sheepish
[20:19]  * stdin prefers "du -s ~/*|sort -rnk 1,1|head" ;)
[20:19] <lod__air> what hapened with hardy alfa 5
[20:20] <lod__air> wasn't it sheduled for yesturday
[20:20] <SlimeyPete> stdin: ooo-ooo-oooh get you with the shell-fu ;)
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » yep.... too many problems I think.
[20:20] <mhollisjr> how do you install a manually downloaded deb?
[20:20] <jussi01> mhollisjr: double click
[20:20] <lod__air> dpkg -i <package>
[20:20] <SlimeyPete>  sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[20:20] <mhollisjr> er heh I suppose it would eb that simple ^^
[20:20] <mhollisjr> ty
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> mhollisjr » use gdebi
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> liek anything in Linux, there are million different ways :)
[20:21] <lod__air> and that's the beuty of it
[20:22] <nosrednaekim> yup
[20:23] <Jonty> I'm getting a segfault with apt just as it tries to read the database
[20:23] <Jonty> how can I resolve this?
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » whats the exact error?
[20:23] <jpatrick> !aptfix
[20:23] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:23] <jpatrick> try that
[20:24] <lod__air> my usplash isn't displaying.. i've tried setting different 'vga=' in grub's menu.list.. but still no usplash.. and i'm laptop user.. can someone help please?
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> !splash
[20:24] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> blah
[20:24] <lod__air> not that splash
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> !usplash
[20:24] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[20:24] <lod__air> the usplash...
[20:24] <Jonty> It's still segfaulting. The error is: Reading package lists... Done Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[20:24] <lod__air> i've tried this..
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » did it ever work?
[20:25] <rickest> anyone know how to turn OFF the shutdown splash? I like to see the status of services as they go down
[20:25] <jpatrick> Jonty: ouch
[20:25] <lod__air> yes whit the live cd, and if I plug externel mon. durring boot
[20:25] <lod__air> hit TAB
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> rickest » otherwise its black?
[20:25] <rickest> nosrednaekim: yes, doesn't show "text" mode
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> sorry.... lod__air^^
[20:26] <jpatrick> rickest: remove "splash" from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:26] <lod__air> the Segmentation fault i've notised is gone when I perform fsck
[20:26] <jpatrick> rickest: but that removes it from boot up too
[20:26] <rickest> jpatrick: I have done that and it works for startup but not shutdown
[20:26] <jpatrick> rickest: ermm, no idea then :(
[20:26] <rickest> jpatrick: np, thanks
[20:27] <mhollisjr> ok how can I prevent a package from being updated
[20:27] <mhollisjr> at least temporarily
[20:27] <jpatrick> !pinning
[20:27] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[20:27] <jpatrick> mhollisjr: ^
[20:27] <mhollisjr> thakn you
[20:28] <rickest> mhollisjr: echo <pkg> hold | dpkg --set-selections
[20:28] <Jonty> Ok: how do I go about reinstalling apt?
[20:28] <flipstar> need to be sudo dpkg --set-selections
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » does dpkg work?
[20:28] <Jonty> I assume /var/lib/dpkg/available is supposed to have stuff in it, right?
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » did you search the forums for similar issues?
[20:29] <lod__air> the thing I don't understand is why the usplash is displayed on the externel mon. but not the primary
[20:29] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: yes, none of the fixes worked or they had different problems
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » is the screen blank during boot or is there text
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » does aptitude work?
[20:29] <lod__air> it displayes Starting up.. and after that goes blank
[20:30] <lod__air> and goes on when gdm/kdm starts up
[20:30] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: I'm tryingdpkg
[20:30] <lod__air> i just tiped usplash in konsole
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » its probably redirecting the output to the external monitor port, and only comes to its senses when kdm starts
[20:30] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: oh hey it works
[20:30] <lod__air> and there was blank screan
[20:30] <Jonty> odd
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » apt0tude works?
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> *aptitude
[20:31] <Jonty> it segfaults as it builds the dependancy tree. no, dpkg
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> aptitude crashes too?
[20:31] <Jonty> I'm assuming it's because I, um, deleted available without a backup
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> oh......no........
[20:31] <Jonty> so
[20:31] <tribaldata> Hi there, anyone good with command line?? I just added a new HDD to my server but i cannot find how to make one big partition and mount it correctly... anyone could help me  ?
[20:31] <Jonty> how do I go about reinstalling :)
[20:32] <lod__air> is there any option to stop the redirect
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » yeah.......
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> tribaldata » read up on the commands fdisk, mkfs and mount
[20:33] <tribaldata> nosrednaekim: cheers will do :) see ya later
[20:33] <MartinCleaver> tribaldata: you could use LVM
[20:33] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, you running hardy ?
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » back up your home DIR.
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj » nope... not yet
[20:33] <tribaldata> MartinCleaver: LVM in console ?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:33] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: is it possible to reinstall apt-get and fix it, or should I just reinstall ubuntu? I've been looking for an excuse to install ubuntu studio :)
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> when it hits beta, I probably will
[20:33] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: it's on a separate partition
[20:34] <MartinCleaver> google LVM - its a flexible partitioning system
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » pfft, then reinstall :)
[20:34] <MartinCleaver> on which I am no expert
[20:34] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: smashing
[20:34] <tribaldata> MartinCleaver: i'm already in it checking the help file seem nice i'll try that also thanks guys
[20:34] <BluesKaj> heh, seems gutsy is in bets , all the crashes I'm having...prolly kde 3.5.9 bugs
[20:34] <BluesKaj> beta
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » yeah.. you definately don't want to remove that file.
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj » hrm.. I never update KDE
[20:35] <lod__air> well i gues there's nothing else to do, but to report my problem via bug
[20:35] <lod__air> in launchpad
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » yeah... I guess. I don't know how to fix that
[20:35] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: ok. It was a fix on a forum somewhere. Silly poster. I should have backed up, though, I think there was an ok fix later on :(
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... in the future, be careful what you do in regards to apt and dpkg...mostly anything else is recoverable..
[20:36] <jon__> всем привет
[20:36] <jpatrick> !ru > jon__
[20:37] <lod__air> привет
[20:37] <jpatrick> !ru
[20:37] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[20:37] <jon__> как настроить kopete чтобы он нормально с аськой работал? У меня отображаются пустые группы и ни одного контакта ,(
[20:38] <mhollisjr> is it normal for auto to scale from no sound at 50% to full sound at 100%?
[20:38] <tribaldata> thanks guys i figured it out i got it working via webmin when i doubt there always back doors :)
[20:38] <tribaldata> lol
[20:38] <mhollisjr> I think I'm missing a sound layer volume control somewhere
[20:38] <mhollisjr> auto = audio
[20:41] <arrrghhh> hey all, i'm tryin to get my vpn to work.  looks like i finally got it connected, now how do i tunnel traffic over it?  i have a new ppp0 connection with an IP address issued from my office, and my eth0 connection with an ip from my router.  the traffic is still going over eth0.
[20:41] <rakan> y0 guyz, how come kubuntu repository software is not up-to-date?
[20:41] <arrrghhh> rakan, it's up to date for stable stuff.
[20:42] <rakan> firefox .12 version aint there
[20:42] <Dragnslcr> rakan- is there some specific package that you think isn't up to date?
[20:42] <Dragnslcr> Mine says <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:42] <dewet_> Can someone help me inslalling Wine on Kubuntu
[20:42] <rakan> yup, firefox for example is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:42] <Dragnslcr> Are you running 7.10?
[20:42] <arrrghhh> rakan, yea, they take a while to catchup.  if you want the newest versions of everything install from the manufacturer.
[20:43] <Dragnslcr> !info firefox
[20:43] <Bauldrick> I can't get Ktorrent to download over 5kb - I open the port on router , do i have to set iptables ?
[20:43] <rakan> yea i am on gutsy
[20:43] <ubotu> firefox (source: firefox): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+2nobinonly+2-0ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 8973 kB, installed size 26052 kB
[20:43] <Dragnslcr> If <IP_ADDRESS> isn't available for you, it's on your end
[20:43] <rakan> i updated the repo just an hour ago and then installed firefox
[20:43] <Dragnslcr> Make sure you've done an update
[20:43] <rakan> that's wierd
[20:44] <dewet_> Can someone help me inslalling Wine on Kubuntu
[20:44] <Dragnslcr> !wine
[20:44] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[20:44] <Lynoure> dewet_: what point are you stuck at?
[20:44] <arrrghhh> Bauldrick, yea you have to configure iptables (i use firestarter) and ensure your ISP doesn't block those ports or place you behind a NAT.
[20:44] <BluesKaj> dewet_, use adept
[20:44] <rakan> dragnslcr: how did u manage to get the most updated version?
[20:44] <dewet_> Did all the thing that suppose to but gives an 404 Error
[20:44] <Dragnslcr> dewet_- 0.9.47 is in the repository?
[20:44] <Dragnslcr> Er
[20:44] <Dragnslcr> dewet_- 0.9.47 is in the repository
[20:44] <SlimeyPete> I have <IP_ADDRESS> but I've never deliberately updated.
[20:45] <SlimeyPete> Just installed from the repo.
[20:45] <Dragnslcr> rakan- through adept_updater
[20:45] <arrrghhh> rakan, <IP_ADDRESS> is in the repos... make sure yours are updated.
[20:45] <arrrghhh> i just checked in adept, the version in the repos is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:45] <dewet_> ?
[20:45] <rakan> arrrghhh: i am telling u i just updated my repo
[20:45] <Dragnslcr> rakan- Do Fetch Updates in Adept, or sudo apt-get update in a shell
[20:45] <arrrghhh> rakan, i'm telling you what i have in my repos.
[20:45] <rakan> i think i should do that
[20:46] <rakan> ok thanks
[20:46] <Bauldrick> arrrghhh: ta, and iptables resets every reboot, yes?
[20:46] <arrrghhh> Bauldrick, i don't know.  i use firestarter.
[20:46] <odinsbane> Anybody having pleasureable experiences with kde4 yet?
[20:47] <rakan> is wine in repo up to date too?
[20:47] <arrrghhh> pleasureable?  meh.  it's pretty, but a lot isn't ready.  they're very open about it at least.
[20:47] <Dragnslcr> rakan- it's at 0.9.47. Dunno if that's the latest
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane » I like it
[20:47] <arrrghhh> rakan, the repos are up-to-date... as up to date as the repos are going to be.  they only add things in there as they can, and are tested as stable.
[20:47] <BluesKaj> latest isn't necessarily best
[20:47] <mhollisjr> latest is 0.9.56, but for hardy it's at 0.9.55 and will not work on hardy with 0.9.55
[20:48] <mhollisjr> and there's no 0.9.56 package yet
[20:48] <arrrghhh> exactly
[20:48] <odinsbane> K I think Ill uninstall it and try again.
[20:48] <arrrghhh> that's why the repo's aren't always up-to-date in the sense that they carry the absolute newest version avaliable.
[20:48] <Dragnslcr> I don't think KDE4 is supposed to be ready for general usage until 4.1
[20:49] <Marbug> I added system guard to my panel, but I ccidently removed CPU and Memory from it, how can I add them beck, or even more ?
[20:49] <dewet_> If I do Everything in the konsole, It did show in the Adept Manager but now there's nothing of Wine Anymore
[20:50] <dewet_> Can u help me with that
[20:50] <hunteke> I've recently bought an intel core 2 duo comp.  Since it's 64 bit, I'd like to install the 64 bit version of kubuntu.  However, all I see for download is PC intel x86, and 64-bit amd64.  Is there something I'm missing?
[20:50] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, the reason it's not ready is the backends aren't done.  phonon, plasma, etc.
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » amd64 will work with core2duos
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » Intel "stole" the AMD instruction set
[20:50] <arrrghhh> hunteke, he's right, but i'd stick to x86.  unless y ou want to deal with flash problems.
[20:51] <dewet_> If I do Everything in the konsole, It did show in the Adept Manager but now there's nothing of Wine Anymore
[20:51] <mhollisjr> hunteke: I asked the same question yesterday I can guarentee AMD64 is the correct version, as I'm running it now
[20:51] <Lynoure> dewet_: Do I understand this right: you want to install it from the command-line and need help getting started with the installation?
[20:51] <hunteke> yikers, okay thanks
[20:51] <dewet_> Yes because there is nothing in Adept M
[20:51] <hunteke> so 64 is correct, intel stole the instruction set, (bastards!), but no flash.
[20:51] <Lynoure> dewet_: if so,   sudo aptitude install wine
[20:51] <hunteke> thanks nosrednaekim, arrrghhh, and mhollisjr
[20:52] <hunteke> is flash the only "major" app that I'll be missing?
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » there is flash... I have flash
[20:52] <bertvdp> hi, kubuntu is doing some strange stuff, when I update this clean installation it wants to upgrade to a new version, which new version ? alpha 4?
[20:52] <hunteke> if so I can totally deal with that.
[20:52] <Lynoure> dewet_: if that fails, let me know what error you got, and pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> bertvdp » what version are you running currently?
[20:52] <hunteke> nosrednaekim: then why does arrrghhh claim to have flash problems?
[20:52] <bertvdp> nosrednaekim: 7.10
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » I didn't say there might not be PROBLEMS....but I got it working :)
[20:53] <hunteke> haha, okay
[20:53] <dewet_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:53] <dewet_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:53] <mhollisjr> ugh I want to reinstall down to 7.10 but I don't want to try to get my usb stick bootable agian ><
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> !apt-fix
[20:53] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:54] <hunteke> nosrednaekim: then I suppose I'll have to mucking.  Since you've done the research recently, can you point me to any helpful websites/forums/email archives?
[20:54] <arrrghhh> hunteke, flash works.  it's just difficult.  i had to run a 32-bit browser.
[20:54] <dewet_> That is The Error I'm Getting
[20:54] <arrrghhh> there's no 64-bit flash.
[20:54] <bertvdp> nosrednaekim: I'm on kubuntu 7.10 (amd64 but I tried i386 first and it had the same problem)
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » actually, all I did was run "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> bertvdp » and its telling you there is an update to alpha 4?
[20:55] <arrrghhh> bertvdp, that's a glitch in adept.  once you update adept, it'll go away.
[20:55] <hunteke> arrrghhh: okay, and that's no big deal, since the main reason for 64 bit is memory addressing over what, 2Gigs?  I hope my browser doesn't /that/ much memory!
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » 3.5 gigs
[20:55] <arrrghhh> hunteke, the x86 version will handle the same amount of memory.
[20:55] <BluesKaj> bertvdp, are you using konq web browser or firefox...konq has probs with flash'
[20:56] <dewet_> The  sudo apt-get update worked now
[20:56] <odinsbane> So when I use kynaptic I save a copy of the .deb file.  No I have removed some software do I still have the .deb copy?
[20:56] <dewet_> What must I do now
[20:56] <mhollisjr> hunteke: 64 bit will only start complaining at 4gb at which you'll drop to 3.5ish
[20:56] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane » possibly.... itdbe in /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:56] <hunteke> mhollisjr: excellent
[20:56] <coggz> hi all,
[20:56] <hunteke> so this sounds like it will be fairly painless, modulo 'sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree'  :-)
[20:57] <Oloughlin75> 64 bit handles a lot motr than 4gb
[20:57] <Dragnslcr> mhollisjr- you mean 32-bit
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » if it works :)
[20:57] <bertvdp> nosrednaekim, when I upgrade it stops in the middle of it with an error (not doing the update in the right order but I just did the update using a konsole then), and then claims there is a new version (don't know what it is)
[20:57] <hunteke> lol
[20:57] <hunteke> I'm not afraid of mucking about
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> bertvdp » ah..ok, well don't get the newest version
[20:57] <arrrghhh> bertvdp, read what i said.  update adept.
[20:57] <mhollisjr> Dragnslcr: er yeah 32 bit
[20:57] <Dragnslcr> bertvdp- it's a known issue with Adept when 7.10 was released. Just ignore it
[20:57] <hunteke> was looking for some tips, and "OMG DON'T DO THAT!".  Didn't get either, so I'm golden, and thanks for the amd64 iso pointer
[20:58] <hunteke> thanks for all the help.
[20:58] <bertvdp> okey, thanks nosrednaekim arrrghhh and Dragnslcr
[20:58] <Dragnslcr> hunteke- if you have less than 4 GB of memory, just use 32-bit
[20:58] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: theres nothing you CANT do... everything can be fixed ;)
[20:58] <Dragnslcr> Not all software has working 64-bit versions yet
[20:58] <dewet_> The  sudo apt-get update worked now
[20:58] <dewet_> The  sudo apt-get update worked now
[20:58] <dewet_> What must I do now
[20:58] <odinsbane> Hey thanks for the info.
[20:58] <lod__air> apt-get upgrade
[20:58] <hunteke> actually, I bought my new comp with 2 gigs intending to upgrade to 4
[20:58] <hunteke> can I ask y'all a hardware question?
[20:59] <Oloughlin75> !ask | hunteke!
[20:59] <ubotu> hunteke!: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:59] <mhollisjr> hunteke: I had originally planned to get 8gb but newegg ran out of my memory as I was submitting the order ><
[20:59] <hunteke> oh gosh: just /trying/ to stay on topic, hehe, alright . . .
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> BBL guys
[20:59] <hunteke> so I just ought a dell vostro with 2 gigs
[20:59] <coggz> i finally registered!!
[20:59] <hunteke> intending to go to 4.
[21:00] <hunteke> but when I opened it up, all I see is one of the 1 gig chips.
[21:00] <coggz> what are the vosotros like?
[21:00] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: whats the hardware question? :)
[21:00] <hunteke> is the other chip going to at all accessible to me?
[21:00] <dewet_> Lynoure_Please help
[21:00] <mhollisjr> hunteke: you're certain it isn't 1x2gb ?
[21:00] <hunteke> well, unless the label on the chip lied . . .
[21:00] <mhollisjr> hunteke:  ahh -nod-
[21:01] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: did they not put 2gb in?
[21:01] <Dragnslcr> hunteke- what does "more /proc/meminfo" say?
[21:01] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: does it show up as 2GB in your OS?
[21:01] <hunteke> Oloughlin75: no, the bios reads 2 gigs
[21:01] <mhollisjr> that's really odd
[21:01] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: might not be :/
[21:01] <coggz> hunteke: probobly wrong label
[21:01] <hunteke> hehe, actually, to respond to that and to coggz earlier equestion
[21:01] <hunteke> I actually haven't booted it yet
[21:01] <mhollisjr> there's not a fan or something covering the other stick making it hard to see or something is there?
[21:01] <hunteke> I've been having a philosophical battle with dell (that I recently one)
[21:02] <hunteke> since I won't be using windows, I got them to refund it
[21:02] <Lynoure> dewet_: did you do what I told you? What did you get as a result?
[21:02] <coggz> hunteke: what are those laptops like?
[21:02] <hunteke> but in order to do that, I had to decline the EULA on the windows first boot.
[21:02] <hunteke> coggz: I'll tell you when I actually use it
[21:02] <hunteke> it was under dell deals on the small/medium business
[21:02] <coggz> hunteke: oh,lol
[21:02] <hunteke> I've been using an inspiron for the last 3.7 years.
[21:03] <Lynoure> dewet_: I cannot work from "please help" alone, sorry, not without coming there and looking over your shoulder =)
[21:03] <coggz> hunteke:  just boughht one for my father
[21:03] <dewet_> It Give me this
[21:03] <dewet_> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_ZA
[21:03] <dewet_> Reading package lists... Done
[21:03] <coggz> hunteke: i have inspiron 1300
[21:03] <hunteke> coggz: cool, will he be using windows or will you be installing *nix on it?
[21:03] <coggz> hunteke: i ditched windows
[21:03] <hunteke> coggz: we're of teh same ilk, clearly.  :-)
[21:03] <hunteke> coggz: were you able to get them to refund it?
[21:03] <coggz> hunteke:  did you have wireless problems?
[21:04] <hunteke> on the inspiron?
[21:04] <Lynoure> dewet_: that's not a result you get from  sudo aptitude install wine, looks like result from apt-get update.
[21:04] <coggz> hunteke: i used windows for years on it
[21:04] <coggz> hunteke: ya, on the inspiron
[21:04] <Lynoure> dewet_: Did you pastebin your sources.list somewhere?
[21:04] <hunteke> coggz: no, I mean for your father, in regards to refunding windows on his vostro
[21:04] <coggz> hunteke: oh, it has not arrived yet, but he will usee windows for now
[21:05] <hunteke> coggz: but as regards wireless, yes I had problems initially, but then intel/OS community made OS drivers
[21:05] <hunteke> coggz: alright
[21:05] <dewet_> Lynoure_Everything Says Done
[21:05] <mhollisjr> cdl
[21:05] <mhollisjr> oops
[21:05] <mhollisjr> ><
[21:05] <dewet_> when I did the  sudo aptitude install wine
[21:05] <mhollisjr> not bad enough I typed here instead of a console but I messed up what I typed ><
[21:06] <hunteke> well, if anyone is interested in waging a philosophical battle in terms of getting refunded for an operating system you won't be using (because $50-150 is not worth 3+hours on the phone and arguing), take a gander at http://www.linux.com/articles/59381
[21:06] <rakan> do u think dreamweaver would run on linux using wine?
[21:06] <coggz> hunteke: what wireless card does yours have? mine has the dreaded BCMXX ndiswrapper - from source issues
[21:06] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: how much do you think windows actually costs dell?
[21:06] <hunteke> coggz: oh noes! : 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[21:07]  * mhollisjr guesses 15$ a disk
[21:07] <hunteke> Oloughlin75: I don't know, something less than the retail $130 - $200 for WinXp Home
[21:07] <dewet_> Lynoure_How do I Pastebin
[21:07] <mhollisjr> less than OEM too
[21:07] <hunteke> but probably between $50  and $100
[21:07] <coggz> hunteke: lucky, took me  a week to do mine the first time. Fresh from windows... lol
[21:07] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: i bet they spend less than 50 per pc
[21:07] <Lynoure> !pastebin | dewet_
[21:07] <ubotu> dewet_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:07] <hunteke> well, pending a call back, the guy agreed last night to refund me $50 bucks.
[21:08] <hunteke> It's not the money
[21:08] <hunteke> I can't stress that enough, it's not about the money
[21:08] <Oloughlin75> . After working with customer service, I received a refund of $52.50
[21:08] <hunteke> it's the victory for OS and letting dell know that I don't like being forced into an OS
[21:08] <Oloughlin75> oh i know hunteke, but still, why do they charge so much
[21:08] <hunteke> I can't answer that.
[21:08] <coggz> hunteke: i keep my copy incase... also virtual box usoing my copy is good as i need itunes
[21:08] <hunteke> coggz: why do you need iTunes?
[21:09] <Oloughlin75> eww itunes
[21:09] <hunteke> I've found Rhythmbox to be a 100% acceptable, even better app than iTunes
[21:09] <coggz> i fix ipods, as crazy as it sounds, i need itunes to do that
[21:09] <hunteke> and not nearly as memory intensive or DRM laden
[21:09] <hunteke> Rhythmbox can handle iPods
[21:09] <hunteke> I'm not sure what all's involved in fixing 'em however
[21:09] <coggz> i use amarok for MY ipod, but when u have errors, u need certain features of itunes
[21:09] <Oloughlin75> i need a zune alternative on linux :(
[21:10] <hunteke> Zune!?
[21:10] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: yes
[21:10] <coggz> Zune!
[21:10] <hunteke> coggz: I'm curious, what kind of errors?
[21:10] <hunteke> do the iPods get?
[21:10] <coggz> u name it i can fix it
[21:10] <hunteke> coggz: I'll keep that in mind, for next time I get an ipod
[21:10]  * hunteke does /whois on coggz
[21:10] <Oloughlin75> coggz: you dont just reinstall firmware?
[21:10] <coggz> broken hdd's, firmware errors
[21:11] <coggz> not on all, some require opening up, switching parts, need special tools
[21:11] <hunteke> how /do/ you fix the broken hdd?
[21:11] <Oloughlin75> new hard drive
[21:11] <mhollisjr> does cp support previous directory like cd? like for example is this valid? 'cd some/dir/cp filename -'
[21:11] <hunteke> ah, just swap 'em out
[21:11]  * hunteke slaps self
[21:11] <mhollisjr> typo
[21:11] <mhollisjr> is this valid? 'cd some/dir/filename -'
[21:11] <hunteke> mhollisjr: not that I'm aware of
[21:11] <hunteke> no
[21:11] <hunteke> but you could do
[21:11] <mhollisjr> gah another typo lmao
[21:11] <hunteke> cd /path/to/dir
[21:11] <coggz> i picked up a 20gig B+W ipod for £30 today, thats about $60
[21:11] <hunteke> blast
[21:11] <mhollisjr>  'cd some/dir/; cp filename -'
[21:12] <mhollisjr> that's what I wanted
[21:12] <hunteke> I'm not sure
[21:12] <trappist> mhollisjr: not quite, but I think there's an env variable that holds the value of -
[21:12] <hunteke> try it and find out
[21:12] <mhollisjr> -nod-
[21:13]  * mhollisjr attempts to re-prepare his flash stick with gutsy instead of hardy for a reinstall
[21:13] <rickest> $OLDPWD
[21:13] <dewet_> lynoure_This is the URl
[21:13] <dewet_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56993/
[21:13] <mhollisjr> ahh that's it ty
[21:13] <hunteke> ah, brilliant rickest.  :-)
[21:13] <Sybux> Hi all
[21:13] <Oloughlin75> hey Sybux
[21:13] <dewet_> lynoure_That is what I done Last
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> hey Oloughlin75
[21:13] <rickest> hehe, I just cd'd and then: env | grep 'where-I-just-was'   :)
[21:13] <Oloughlin75> sup nosrednaekim
[21:14] <Sybux> Does any1 know how to redirect mail flagged as spam from spamassassin to a folder in maildir ?
[21:14] <Lynoure> dewet_: it shows wine was already installed on your system
[21:14] <Lynoure> dewet_: oh, oops, not.
[21:14] <MartinCleaver> looks like the OS on my machine is about 7GB
[21:14] <Lynoure> dewet_: pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list  too
[21:14] <mhollisjr> you added the repo dewet_?
[21:14] <AndreSTC> how do i change directory on my local machine while connected to a remote machine, by ftp?
[21:15] <MartinCleaver> So, to be safe I'll give 15GB for the new partition
[21:15] <mhollisjr> dewet_: take a peek here http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[21:15] <rickest> AndreSTC: lcd I believe
[21:15] <AndreSTC> thnaks
[21:15] <rickest> AndreSTC: do you want the whole 'ftp is unsecure blah blah blah' thingy?
[21:15] <coggz> where can i ask an off topic question to you guys?
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> !ot
[21:16] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:16] <AndreSTC> rickest is it? im new to this stuff =P
[21:16] <coggz> aree you guys on there?
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> some are
[21:16] <rickest> AndreSTC: yeah, scp/sftp has pretty much replaced rpc, telnet, and ftp
[21:16] <Lynoure> coggz: go see?
[21:16] <coggz> kk,
[21:17] <mhollisjr> what is the intended difference between /media and /mnt?
[21:17] <mhollisjr> or is /mnt just getting phased out?
[21:18] <Sybux> none, it's just 2 different folder name
[21:18] <rickest> AndreSTC: if you're on a personal LAN w/o port forwarding it's probably ok but anywhere else the others are preferred (plus rsync or 'rsync -e ssh')
[21:18] <dewet_> Lynoure_ /etc/apt/sources.list - Not Working
[21:19] <AndreSTC> rickest i tried connecting with sftp, it said something about key fingerprint... whats that?
[21:19] <AndreSTC> rickest is there somewhere i can read about sftp?
[21:19] <rickest> AndreSTC: hmm, wait one
[21:20] <mhollisjr> is there a program for simulating a boot on a device?
[21:20] <mhollisjr> like if I wanted to test booting off my USB stick without rebooting 25 times, since I probably need to make adjustments?
[21:20] <Lynoure> dewet_: open it, then paste:   kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:21] <rickest> AndreSTC: I thought I had a specific intro marked but I guess not. google 'introduction ssh', should find something decent there
[21:21] <AndreSTC> [rickest]: ok
[21:21] <Sybux> Does any1 know how to redirect mail flagged as spam from spamassassin to a folder in maildir ?
[21:21] <AndreSTC> rickest soh sftp and ssh are pretty much same thing?
[21:21] <AndreSTC> so*
[21:21] <rickest> AndreSTC: fwiw, the key fingerprint is ok, helps prevent man-in-the-middle attacks, etc. most primers will talk some about that
[21:22] <rickest> AndreSTC: sftp is just an ftp-like interface that works over ssh, yes. once you switch, though, most just use rsync, scp, or sshfs for persistent mounts if needed
[21:23] <dewet_> Lynoure_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56994/
[21:23] <AndreSTC> rickest ok
[21:24] <jason> hi
[21:24] <jason> anyone here?
[21:24] <rickest> AndreSTC: http://www.suso.org/docs/shell/ssh.sdf   was popular on Digg
[21:24] <Lynoure> dewet_: seems you only have a cd source.... you'll have to uncomment a pile of lines from that file
[21:25] <jason> how do I make my python scripts executable?
[21:25] <dewet_> Lynoure_It Sows now in the Adept Manager but still dont want to install
[21:25] <rickest> AndreSTC: and fwiw, it looks a lot harder than it is.  You don't need any of the advanced stuff to simply use it
[21:25] <Oloughlin75> chmod 775 i think jason
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> jason » add the line "#!/usr/bin/python" as the first line of the script
[21:26] <dewet_> Lynoure_Ok. What lines will that be
[21:26] <jason> thanks
[21:26] <AndreSTC> [rickest]: ok..i found this one also, http://polydistortion.net/doc/ssh.html
[21:26] <Dragnslcr> AndreSTC- if the server end has sshd running, scp should work automagically
[21:27] <Lynoure> dewet_: wait, I'll give you a link soon
[21:27] <rickest> that one looks good, too AndreSTC
[21:28] <leroux> join #ficken
[21:28] <jason> I added the line, but when I left click it just opens with kate. so I changed it to executable, but no change except now kate doesn't open it
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> jason » its probably executing... what does it do?
[21:29] <Oloughlin75> !find mplayer-*
[21:29] <ubotu> Found: kmplayer-base, kmplayer-konq-plugins, kmplayer, kmplayer-doc, python-templayer (and 12 others)
[21:29] <jason> this is the code.  print 5; raw_input('')
[21:29] <Lynoure> dewet_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56996/ is the modified version that will probably work.  you'll need to open the file as root for it to be editable:   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:30] <jason> should print 5 and wait for me to press enter
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> jason » well, thats just gonna hang, becuase there is no way for it to get input
[21:30] <prince_jammys> jason: run it from a terminal
[21:30] <jason> if I run from the command line it works fine
[21:30] <jason> but I wanna be able to click on it
[21:30] <jason> like in windows
[21:30] <Lynoure> dewet_: after saving the changes, do   sudo apt-get clean all    and then   sudo apt-get update
[21:30] <prince_jammys> jason: that aint so easy
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> jason » and have it open a terminal?
[21:30] <Oloughlin75> jason: you need a GUI
[21:31] <jason> IDLE isn't standard for some reason on linux???
[21:31] <prince_jammys> jason: oh i see, you want it to open a terminal
[21:31] <trappist> mhollisjr: ~- is the previous directory
[21:32] <jason> so if I was using pygame to do all my drawing etc I would just put #!/usr/bin/python at the top and mark it executable?
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> yep
[21:32] <jason> but otherwise kubuntu doesn't know that it must open a terminal?
[21:33] <Oloughlin75> is there a way to add places to the menu that appears when you click the computer (next to the K menu)?
[21:33] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » I don't think so.
[21:33] <nosrednaekim> unless its a subsection of the Kmenu that is separated off.
[21:34] <hunteke> gah, would help if I pasted into the right room, hehe
[21:34] <rickest> Oloughlin75: Right-click the K and do menu editor
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> jason » let me see if there is a way
[21:34] <trappist> mhollisjr: and, see http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT to answer your other question
[21:34] <hunteke> (I'm also in #ubuntu . . .and K and U apparently look very similar . . .)
[21:34] <hunteke> bah! upgrading the ram in a vostro 1500 is a little harder: http://pctipguys.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=39&Itemid=36
[21:34] <Oloughlin75> rickest: and what would i change?
[21:35] <rickest> Oloughlin75: I think I read your question wrong, sorry. Thought you wanted to change the menu, not the computer next to it
[21:35] <Oloughlin75> :)
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> jason » you could point a shortcut to it and tell the shortcut to run a terminal.
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> jason » or, right click on the python file, click "open with" type python into the top, tell it to run in a terminal and tell it to remember the file type accociation
[21:38] <creeps> hi all
[21:38] <dewet_> Lynoure_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56997/
[21:38] <jefferson_> hi
[21:38] <jason> yes that last one worked fine
[21:38] <dewet_> Lynoure_What now
[21:38] <jason> thanks
[21:38] <Undead> dd
[21:38] <creeps> im having trouble accessing my storage drives in my computer
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> jason » you're welcome
[21:39] <creeps> its says its unable to mount
[21:39] <prince_jammys> yep looks like konsole --noclose -e yourscript does it
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> creeps » systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions
[21:39] <creeps> k
[21:40] <jason> I am having some trouble installing my Nvidia drivers for my 8800GT. I have the *.run file for it. I go to init 3 so and run the file with the appropriate commands. But it says that a kernel interface doesn't exist
[21:40] <Lynoure> dewet_: hmm, are you having adept open at the same time? Close it, try again
[21:40] <dewet_> k
[21:40] <rakan> my apache has php.load and .conf in mods_enabled directory but when i try to load php script in browser it asks me to download it
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> jason » why don't you use the restricted-manager?
[21:40] <Lynoure> dewet_: it keeps dpkg resources locked, so it should be closed meanwhile.
[21:41] <solid_liq> jason, you need to install your kernel headers
[21:41] <jason> That requires downloading and I only have 40MB of cap left, it's precious. But I did try that, it doesn't detect a thing
[21:42] <jason> is it big?
[21:42] <solid_liq> jason, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[21:42] <jason> how do I do it?
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> jason » sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:42] <jason> what is uname for?
[21:42] <solid_liq> jason, ^^^
[21:42] <solid_liq> uname shows you your kernel version
[21:42] <creeps> right if add this in konsole thing > sudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow/dev/hda(put number of drive in question here???)
[21:42] <solid_liq> uname -r specifically shows only the 2.6.xx version of your kernel
[21:42] <dewet_> Lynoure_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56998/
[21:43] <jason> so I just copy paste your command
[21:43] <solid_liq> jason, yep
[21:43] <solid_liq> jason, make sure you run that as root of course
[21:43] <solid_liq> jason, or add  sudo  at the beginning
[21:43] <jason> ok
[21:43] <jason> tnx
[21:43] <solid_liq> np
[21:43] <Oloughlin75> is there a way to search for empty folders?
[21:44] <Lynoure> dewet_: looks good. Now do  sudo aptitude install wine
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » yeah.... but let some command line master tell you... i'd have to go read a dozen man pages :)
[21:44] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, of course ;)
[21:44] <creeps> dam it mounts but
[21:44] <flipstar> Oloughlin75: fslint can do that
[21:44] <Oloughlin75> solid_liq: and the command is... :)
[21:44] <creeps> now im gettin folder contenst could not be displyed
[21:44] <jason> ok I will try it. brb. thanks
[21:44] <Oloughlin75> !info fslint
[21:44] <ubotu> fslint (source: fslint): A toolkit to fix various problems with filesystems' data.. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.16-1 (gutsy), package size 67 kB, installed size 580 kB
[21:44] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, a script
[21:45] <flipstar> it has a gui
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> creeps » you need to mount it as a normal user... to do that you need to set the mount permissions to all users
[21:45] <yassine> how to stop compiz please? i forgot the command... :)
[21:45] <Oloughlin75> yassine: kwin --replace
[21:46] <SheeEttin> Anyone running Hardy in here? I'm thinking of upgrading...
[21:46] <ubuntu> can anyone help me figure out why i cant mount a partition containing kubuntu from the live cd? it says hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[21:46] <flipstar> hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> SheeEttin » #ubuntu+1
[21:47] <SheeEttin> flipstar, nosrednaekim: thanks.
[21:47] <creeps> dam is it possible to view any files off a windows formatted hdd
[21:47] <acee1234> is there any way to keep ubuntu from freezing when logging off or restarting x? using ati x1400 restricted drivers im using ubuntu but i got no responce from that channel
[21:47] <creeps> its not a boot drive only ntfs storage
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu » system settings->advanced->disks and partitions, set the drive to be mmountable by all users
[21:47] <jason> It says that I need the libc header files
[21:48] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, for d in $(find . -type d); do NF=$(ls $d | wc -l); if [ $NF -eq 0 ]; then echo "empty : $d"; fi; done
[21:48] <nosrednaekim> acee1234 » yep.... tell gdm to restart X on log-out
[21:48] <creeps> thnx nosrednaekim
[21:48] <acee1234>  acee1234 how
[21:48] <nosrednaekim> jason » run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" its smal
[21:48] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: how
[21:48] <Oloughlin75> solid_liq: fslint works
[21:49] <flipstar> jason: then install it.. sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[21:49] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, fslint considers an empty dir to be a filesystem "problem"?
[21:49] <Lynoure> dewet_: I'll soon need to go, so let me know if it worked.
[21:49] <jason> ok so which one should I do? the above option is 13MB
[21:49] <Oloughlin75> solid_liq: its an option to search for -- i consider it to be a problem ;)
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> acee1234 » google it... I don't know how to do it with GDM
[21:50] <Oloughlin75> solid_liq: you can search for a bunch of stuff
[21:50] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, heh, whatever, I just script instead ;)
[21:50] <flipstar> solid_liq: fslint has a lot of options :)
[21:50] <solid_liq> flipstar, pfft
[21:50] <solid_liq> flipstar, flipity-flop, back in my day...!! ;)
[21:51] <ubuntu> how can i access my home folder from the live cd.........is there a way to enter my password from here?
[21:51] <dewet_> Lynoure_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56999/
[21:51] <creeps> woo thnx fellas n ladies if any
[21:51] <solid_liq> ubuntu, you need to mount your hdd
[21:51] <solid_liq> !mount
[21:51] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[21:51] <dewet_> Lynoure_Ok - This is What Happend
[21:51] <ubuntu> solid_liq: it is mounted, it is telling me access is denied
[21:51] <ubuntu> when i try to enter the home folder
[21:52] <solid_liq> ubuntu, type su to get root privs, then try again
[21:52] <creeps> right i can see the files thru disk manger but i can actually view them
[21:52] <creeps> i need a serial off a read me
[21:52] <ubuntu> whats the live cd password
[21:53] <solid_liq> ubuntu, it shouldn't have one
[21:53] <flipstar> there is no
[21:53] <Lynoure> dewet_: congrats, you now have wine installed. and your system will also be getting the security updates and bug fixes you did not get before
[21:53] <ubuntu> su asks for a password
[21:53] <ubuntu> sudo cd doesnt work
[21:53] <flipstar> just enter
[21:53] <creeps> im on some screen saying select mount point path?
[21:53] <jason> why doesn't konquerer run gmail?
[21:53] <dewet_> Lynoure_Thanks, Its Working, Really Appriciate all your Trouble.
[21:53] <Lynoure> dewet_: now you can continue onward starting with Initial Setup at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[21:53] <solid_liq> ubuntu, then try   sudo passwd   and give root a password
[21:53] <flipstar> ubuntu or use sudo -s so you wont be asked
[21:53] <Lynoure> dewet_: You are welcome. :)
[21:54] <Lynoure> I think I'll go get some sleep.
[21:55] <ubuntu> screw it i dont think i have the file i need anyway
[21:55] <jpatrick> !noroot > solid_liq
[21:55] <solid_liq> jpatrick, ?
[21:55] <jpatrick> solid_liq: see pm from ubuntu
[21:55] <jpatrick> ubotu*
[21:55] <solid_liq> jpatrick, it's a livecd, so that idea is a non-issue
[21:55] <bioss> no sound on a hp dv6000 (hda intel) when i were the hedphones works fine but the integrated speakears are not working, if anyone knows whats the problem ?
[21:55] <nosrednaekim> creeps » anywhere in /media will do..make up a name like "/media/drive"
[21:56] <jpatrick> solid_liq: ahh, right, sorry
[21:56] <jason> why doesn't konquerer run gmail?
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> jason » it can... you have to se the browser ID to firefox though
[21:56] <ubuntu> how do i force a partition to unmount
[21:56] <Arwen> ubuntu, -lf
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu » "sudo umount /mount/point"
[21:56] <Arwen> but it'll wreck your fs
[21:57] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: that doesnt seem to work it say sthat it isnt mounted but qtparted says it is
[21:57] <trappist> yeah I only ever use -l on busted samba/nfs mounts
[21:57] <ubuntu> Arwen: im trying to merge 2 partitionds
[21:57] <acee1234> nosrednaekim:  didnt work changed restartserver value to true in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf no luck and it canged the gdm theme to a flower...
[21:57] <mhollisjr> does 7.10 come default with compiz installed?
[21:57] <ubuntu> !compiz | mhollisjr
[21:57] <ubotu> mhollisjr: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> acee1234 » lol
[21:57] <Dragnslcr> mhollisjr- Ubuntu does, Kubuntu doesn't
[21:58] <trappist> mhollisjr: did you catch my answers to your other questions?
[21:58] <mhollisjr> gotcha, and umm I might not have one sec
[21:58] <trappist> mhollisjr: ~- is the previous directory
[21:58] <trappist> mhollisjr: and, see http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT to answer your other question
[21:58] <acee1234> im going to throw my laptop at an ati programmer
[21:58] <bioss> have anybody had problems with new linux images?
[21:58] <ubuntu> is there a reason the console will say a partition isnt mounted and qtparted says it is?
[21:58] <trappist> acee1234: they're called amd programmers now :)
[21:59] <mhollisjr> trappist: got them thank you
[21:59] <acee1234> easier to hit
[21:59] <trappist> bioss: you talking about kernels?
[21:59] <creeps> omg
[21:59] <bioss> yes
[21:59] <trappist> bioss: not I
[21:59] <creeps> alls i wanna do is look at they read me file
[22:00] <mhollisjr> awesome flash drive is prepared just checking the integrity of the squash and then it's tiem to downgrade
[22:00] <bioss> when i do an update with the new ones i have to use grub to manually select the older kernel to boot
[22:00] <trappist> bioss: because what, the new one doesn't boot?
[22:00] <bioss> no
[22:01] <trappist> afaik the only change in the new one is a one-line fix to a very nasty security hole
[22:01] <flipstar> whats the problem during boot ?
[22:01] <creeps> any idea what is stopping me being able to view theese files
[22:01] <creeps> i can see them in disks manager/ partitions
[22:01] <bioss> Im thinking is got to be that they dont download correctly
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> creeps » do "sudo -i" root should be able to view them
[22:01] <bioss> is there any other way to get them>?
[22:01] <trappist> creeps: how are you trying to view them, and what happens when you try.
[22:02] <trappist> bioss: apt does checksums before installing packages, so a broken download should never cause this problem
[22:02] <flipstar> bioss: there should be checked after download ..
[22:02] <bioss> didnt know that
[22:02] <raul_> #channel
[22:02] <creeps> well i go to my computer and the hdd's are there i cant look in them , but then someone said go into disks / partitions
[22:02] <creeps> and enable mountable
[22:03] <creeps> i did and i can look in files there but not anywhere else
[22:03] <trappist> bioss: maybe check /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if the new kernel has the same options as the working kernel
[22:03] <trappist> bioss: also..... what happens when you boot to the new kernel
[22:03] <bioss> in verbosa?
[22:04] <bioss> it stays black
[22:04] <trappist> huh?
[22:04] <trappist> bioss: after what
[22:04] <creeps> it went disk manager then onto select new mount point path . in there if i click change it shows me whats on the partition
[22:04] <trappist> bioss: let me back up - did you happen to install, say, nvidia drivers without using apt-get? like using envy or from nvidia.com?
[22:05] <bioss> when it starts to boot the computer gfrub starts and everithin seems to be working when grub finishes it stays black
[22:05] <bioss> yes
[22:05] <trappist> bioss: then you'll have to do that again.  new kernel means new video drivers.
[22:06] <bioss> but shuold it reset to x?
[22:06] <mhollisjr> speaking of kernel
[22:06] <trappist> and let this be a lesson to you about stepping outside the package manager :)
[22:06] <mhollisjr> are there any optimizations that I can do such as pre-emptive and such
[22:07] <trappist> bioss: reset to X?  X is set to use the nvidia drivers, which don't work because they're built against the old kernel.  you need new drivers for your new kernel.
[22:07] <creeps> i get this message if i try to view
[22:07] <creeps> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdc1".
[22:07] <bioss> but i dont to even the login screen?
[22:07] <flipstar> trappist: the nvidia drivers need to be build after every kernel update ?
[22:07] <trappist> mhollisjr: with gutsy, I don't think there are any optimizations you can do to make a noticeable difference
[22:08] <mhollisjr> -nod- so the ideal settings would already be compiled by default?
[22:08] <trappist> flipstar: only if you're using the ones from nvidia.com - if you stick with the package manager, you'll get new drivers from the repo via the magic of dependencies
[22:08] <ubuntu> does a swap partition have to be right next to the ext3 partition
[22:08] <hydrogen> no
[22:08] <flipstar> kay thx trappist
[22:09] <trappist> mhollisjr: not ideal for you, but ideal for most users collectively.  you could change some things to improve performance in some areas, but you'd probably never notice the difference, and you'd cause yourself some headaches.
[22:09] <bioss> ok i will try to download the new kernel but is not always that the grub works to getting to the old to boot the system
[22:09] <fevel> hey
[22:09] <fevel> anyone usnig the new kde4??
[22:10] <mhollisjr> well I remember when I used pclinuxos I did make a change to some of the pre-emptive settings, though I forget what exactly I changed, I'd have to look at it, and I did get a noticable performance boost
[22:10] <fevel> better yet...should I??
[22:10] <trappist> mhollisjr: in previous releases they had a low-latency kernel in universe, which helped with some i/o inefficiencies caused by power-saving optimizations for laptops, but the problems that caused it seem to be gone, so there's no more low-latency kernel
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> fevel » yes, Iam
[22:10] <mhollisjr> trappist: ok good deal, thanks for the headsup
[22:11]  * creeps pulls his hair out strand by strand
[22:11] <mhollisjr> one more question, if the CD is doing an integrity check there's no harm in interrupting it correct?
[22:11] <trappist> mhollisjr: preemptive doesn't have a real effect on performance, only an apparent one, because for example i/o operations can be preempted to make sure the mouse cursor moves smoothly.  I think you're currently running a preemptible kernel, but I'd have to check
[22:11] <creeps> i need a coffee
[22:11] <trappist> mhollisjr: right, it's just checking the cd itself against the md5sum of the image
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> fevel » it woks fine here.
[22:11] <mhollisjr> well I do remember having issues with a slow mouse cursor in wine, if that'd improve that I'll have to lookinto it
[22:11] <Daisuke_Ido> have there been any updates to kde 3.5.9 to make it not as bad?
[22:12] <Daisuke_Ido> heard it slowed things down a bit
[22:12] <mhollisjr> well in my case a USB stick but the question is the same since I doubt it would try to mount what it would assume to be a CDROM as read write
[22:12] <hydrogen> thats kind of a vague and inflamatory question...
[22:12] <creeps> would me gettin wine help me view files on thoose ntfs partitions?
[22:12] <fevel> nosrednaekim: should I be using it?? I installed it and now the hotkeys dont work on the paillion notebook, the wallpaper dissapears after every boot and I get errors opening certain programs and crashes opening gtk ones
[22:12] <trappist> creeps: no
[22:12] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: it wasn't meant to be, i'm deciding whether or not to reinstall kde
[22:12] <creeps> adrn
[22:12] <creeps> darn*
[22:13] <creeps> brb
[22:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and from the freedesktop things putting stuff where no one wants it, and the alleged slowdown, i'd like to know what i'm diving into
[22:13] <hydrogen> well
[22:13] <hydrogen> without knowing what your actually asking
[22:13] <hydrogen> my answer is
[22:13] <hydrogen> a big vat of warm chocolate syrup
[22:14] <Daisuke_Ido> sounds yummy
[22:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i guess the real question is: is 3.5.9 an improvement over 3.5.8
[22:14] <hydrogen> one would assume so..
[22:14] <hydrogen> I don't think they went in and broke things
[22:14] <hydrogen> just to have another release
[22:14] <hydrogen> read the changelog
[22:15] <mhollisjr> brb in gutsy
[22:15] <Daisuke_Ido> helpful.  i was asking for personal opinions
[22:15] <trappist> new bugs do get introduced into complex software with new releases
[22:15] <trappist> Daisuke_Ido: I've upgraded, but I haven't restarted X, so I couldn't say personally
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido » from what I heard... it was mostly the inclusion of the enterprise PIM (which Kubuntu already had)
[22:15] <hydrogen> I no longer use kde3.. so couldn't tell you
[22:15] <creeps> right action time again
[22:17] <ubuntu> are the partition numbers in the installationa nd the numbers in qtparted the same numbers?
[22:17] <coggz> is gnome good or bad?
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» yes
[22:17] <trappist> coggz: bad!  all bad!
[22:17] <ahmad> hello, i cant connect to internet using the wireless network, however at Knetwork manager, it detected a wirelssnetwork. it appears that the device is ra0, subnetmask is <IP_ADDRESS>, broadcast is <IP_ADDRESS>,, hidden-no, bandwith is 62 mb/s, signal strentgh is 81, frequency is 2.412, device is inactive, network is not active. can you help me fix this problem?
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> !gnome
[22:17] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[22:17] <flipstar> i didnt noticed a change for 3.5.9 but i didnt payd attention for that
[22:17] <trappist> coggz: seriously, try kde and gnome and decide which you prefer.
[22:17] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: im glad i didnt install then because it was about to wipe out my winodws installation
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> heh
[22:18] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: any idea why im not able to format this unallocated partition?
[22:18] <rakan> i can't get my repo database up to date as i was told here before
[22:19] <rakan> what should i do in order to get the repo?
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu - qtparted has done that to me on several occasions, especially after performing another action
[22:19] <fevel> anyone solve the problems on kde4??
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> !gparted | rakan
[22:19] <ubotu> rakan: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> whooops
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> wrong user
[22:20] <ubuntu> the mount poinbt for a new isntall should be / right?
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> rakan: don't partition anything
[22:20] <Oloughlin75> fevel: what problems/
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> fevel» what problems?
[22:21] <rakan> daisuke_ldo: i noticed it has nothing to do with what i wanted :D
[22:21] <fevel> my specific one ...is that the hotkeys on my hp pavillion notebook doesnt work on it, although it works on 3 and gnome (volume control key, and pause)
[22:22] <fevel> I see other problems like every bootup my wallpaper dissapears
[22:22] <fevel> maybe I installed it incorectly
[22:22] <fevel> hoq can I see the version?
[22:22] <fevel> im really not used to kde and im trying to make the switch
[22:23] <ubuntu> does kubuntu automatically add in a swap?
[22:23] <rickest> ubuntu: yes, if you let it autopartition
[22:23] <rickest> ubuntu: during install, I presume you mean
[22:23] <Daisuke_Ido> might as well install xubuntu-desktop as well :D
[22:24] <ubuntu> its telling me if i do not go back to the partitioning menu and assign a swap partition the installation will continue without swap space
[22:24] <fevel> I didnt add any repositories, I just gave it a sudo aptitude install kde4-core
[22:24] <fevel> it seemed to go fine
[22:24] <rickest> fevel: try 'kcontrol' then look in Help->About KDE
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» you need to have a swap partition... at least its reccomended
[22:24] <rickest> fevel: or simply the opening screen of kcontrol
[22:25] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: ive never had to do it manually before
[22:25] <rickest> ubuntu: I don't know. the last one I did I let it do everything and it created swap
[22:25] <fevel> LOL it says kde 3,5,8 although I know its 4
[22:25] <ubuntu> how big of a swap partition do i need?
[22:25] <fevel> because of oxygen and stuff
[22:25] <ubuntu> !swap
[22:25] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[22:25] <rickest> before I've always set it up myself so I only have one experience of letting it handle it and it did
[22:25] <rickest> fevel: hehe, pre-release
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> fevel» you need to log out and log into kde4
[22:26] <fevel> I am
[22:26] <fevel> I logged into kde 4
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> fevel» and if its a kde3 app, it will still say 3.5.8
[22:26] <fevel> and I know its that
[22:26] <rickest> fevel: perhaps the package manager (synaptic, adept_manager, et al) will tell you
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> apt-cache policy kde4-core
[22:26] <ubuntu> how big is the default swap partition
[22:27] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: there is no default size
[22:27] <fevel> it says 3.2gutsy
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> depends on ram
[22:27] <ubuntu> i have 1 gig
[22:27] <ubuntu> how big should i make it
[22:27] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: id make it 1 gig, but thats just me :/
[22:27] <creeps> hello again
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> then i would go with a 1.5 or 2gb swap
[22:27] <fevel> should I add a repository to sources? if so can anyone tell me?
[22:27] <ubuntu> ok cool
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> if you have the space to spare, it can't hurt
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» 1.5gigs
[22:28] <rickest> surprisingly, it made my swap 6GB when I let it do it itself
[22:28] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: he means for swap
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75» 1.5times the ram is reccomended for suspend/hibernate purposes
[22:28] <Oloughlin75> oooo
[22:28] <ubuntu> swap doesnt need a mount point right?
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» nope
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> so much to install -_-
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i might run out of hard drive space
[22:29]  * Daisuke_Ido giggles like a demon-possessed schoolgirl
[22:29] <ubuntu> ok this still says partition #4 and #2
[22:29] <ubuntu> whatever im gonna trust it this time
[22:30] <ubuntu> if it screwes up my HP restore partition im going to be somewhat angry
[22:30] <ubuntu> wish me luck =)
[22:30] <ahmad> rickest, can you help me fix my wireless connection? icant connect to internet using my wifi, however at Knetworkmanager it appear that ralink 2500 802.11g card mini PCi. the device is rao, subnetmask is <IP_ADDRESS>, broadcast is <IP_ADDRESS>, accespoint is 00:04:29:83:40:82, signal strentgh is 81%, frequency is 2.412 device is inactive and the network is inactive.
[22:30] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> #2? that'd be windows!
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> unless its resizing
[22:30] <ubuntu> i already said next
[22:30] <ubuntu> i dont care if it screws up my windows, i just reinstalled it
[22:30] <ubuntu> i just care about partition # 6
[22:31] <rickest> ahmad: I've never used wireless under linux unfortunately so I have no experience with knetwork. be glad to help with something else but w/l is not my strong point, sorry
[22:31] <ubuntu> i dont have the disks
[22:31] <coggz> bye
[22:31] <ubuntu> ahmad: dont use knetworkmanager
[22:31] <ubuntu> i prefer wicd
[22:31] <ahmad> rickest, thanks.
[22:32] <rickest> ahmad: tho I will say it sounds like you just need to connect to the wireless signal. have you already initiated a connection with the detected network?
[22:32] <ubuntu> im going to have a fun night of installing packages thats for certain =)
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> ahmad» look in the forums.... raLinks have a very common problem
[22:32] <ahmad> ubuntu, what is wicd, i can add that at aplet manager?
[22:33] <mhollisjr> you know I don't care how many times I do it it still impresses the hell out of me that you can use the os while you're installing it
[22:33] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam
[22:34] <rickest> and frankly, although I used KDE for a couple of years 4 years ago, since then I've been running enlightenment on gentoo so I'm sort of a kubuntu n00b  :-)
[22:34] <ahmad> richest, yup i tried a couple of times but it failed to connect. then i shift to wireless manager, it is out of range.
[22:34] <mhollisjr> er >< system installed too quickly gotta reboot already >< brb again
[22:34] <prince_jammys> hola: did you look at the guide?
[22:34] <rickest> we have one *buntu box in the office but it's a server install with IceWM on top
[22:35] <ubuntu> hopefully reformatting will allow kopete to work now nosrednaekim =)
[22:35] <rickest> ahmad: nosrednaekim's advice might be the next step then
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» well, thats another whole problem
[22:35] <hola> prince_jammys: which guide
[22:35] <ubuntu> yea i know
[22:35] <ubuntu> thats just a hope
[22:35] <prince_jammys> !webcam | hola
[22:35] <ubotu> hola: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:35] <ubuntu> my main reason for reformatting was to free up the over 6 gigs of space floating on my hard drive from past swap partitions
[22:37] <hola> prince_jammys: it seems does not supported but i think that it is a stange thing
[22:38] <ahmad> ubuntu, can you can you help me fix my wireless connection?
[22:38] <prince_jammys> hola: sorry, i don't have one. i only know that guide
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> ahmad» please do not just pick random people
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» lol
[22:40] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: can you feel my pain on the floating partitions/
[22:40] <ubuntu> ahmad: what exactly is the problem
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» no..... but I understand :)
[22:40] <ahmad> nosrednaekim, ok, sorry i'm new to this and also a new user of linux, i'm still familiarizing it. can you help me fix my wireless connection?
[22:40] <ubuntu> hey man, 6 gigs unused,,,,,,,,,,,thats annoying..........there are 2 other partitions totalling 3 megs, even THAT is annying me
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> ahmad» like I said... search the ubuntu forums... it is a very common problem
[22:41] <ubuntu> !wireless | ahmad
[22:41] <ubotu> ahmad: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:41] <ahmad> unbuntu, i cant connect to internet using my wifi, but it detected a wireless network with an excellent signal.
[22:41] <ubuntu> why cant you connect
[22:41] <ubuntu> more info please
[22:41] <ubuntu> does your pc blow up?
[22:41] <ubuntu> does it expell cheese when you try to connect?
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> haha
[22:42] <flipstar> ubuntu you should be able to merge partitions without reinstall ..
[22:42] <ubuntu> too late for that flipstar lol
[22:42] <flipstar> nm
[22:42] <ubuntu> but i dont think its possible without reformatting
[22:43] <ubuntu> i tried to resize
[22:43] <ubuntu> it wouldnt let me
[22:43] <creeps> i think ive found my solution
[22:43] <flipstar> qtparted can that
[22:43] <ubuntu> i tried unmounting force unmounting and everything
[22:43] <creeps> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[22:43] <ubuntu> but im at 90% installed so yea too late =)
[22:43] <flipstar> maybe you'll try next time :)
[22:44] <ubuntu> i did try =/
[22:44] <ubuntu> many times
[22:44] <ubuntu> lol
[22:44] <flipstar> oh
[22:44] <ubuntu> even asked in here why it wouldnt let me
[22:44] <ahmad> ubuntu, at Knetworkmanager, it appear that the device is rao, subnetmask is <IP_ADDRESS>, broadcast is <IP_ADDRESS>, accespoint is 00:04:29:83:40:82, signal strenght is 81% frequency is 2.412, device is inactive and the network is inactive.
[22:45] <flipstar> !repeat > ahmad
[22:45] <flipstar> !forums > ahmad
[22:46] <jpatrick> !msg > ahmad
[22:46] <ahmad> ok thanks.
[22:48] <creeps> hmm this aint easy man
[22:48] <Daisuke_Ido> hmmph
[22:48] <Daisuke_Ido> so far so good
[22:49] <Daisuke_Ido> but my previous idiocy caught up with me
[22:49] <creeps> lol doesnt it always tho
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought hey, i'm reinstalling, settings will be the same, i'll back up my /home (hdd was dying) and restore it
[22:50] <evilbug> how can i completely remove kubuntu-desktop?
[22:50] <hydrogen> rm -if /
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> it didn't work so well.  it worked, but i wanted a fresh kubuntu experience
[22:50] <hydrogen> notsomuch!
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: not even a funny suggestion
[22:50] <evilbug> i installed via "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and tried removing by "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" but didn't remove much.
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> !puregnome | evilbug
[22:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, but it knows purekde
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> bleh
[22:51] <flipstar> evilbug: try sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[22:51] <hydrogen> Daisuke_Ido: well, when you considder the fact that 1) I made it interactive, 2) I didn't prefix it with sudo, and 3) The average IQ of people in here is greater than -6, It wasn't that bad
[22:51] <jussi01> evilbug: please ignore what hydrogen said.
[22:51] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: it's still not wise to even recommend that
[22:51] <jussi01> hydrogen: Please dont do that again.
[22:52] <evilbug> :)
[22:52] <flipstar> Daisuke_Ido: its really easy to clone a system..
[22:52] <Daisuke_Ido> flipstar: yeah, but.
[22:52] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway, i got everything cool now
[22:52] <creeps> oooo why wont it work
[22:52] <Daisuke_Ido> i backed up my ktorrent, konversation, and amarok settings, then dumped .kde
[22:52] <evilbug> so how do i do it?
[22:53] <flipstar> i hate to install every single packet i want..so i just cloned via dpkg --get-selections :P
[22:54] <creeps> anybody ever done this> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[22:54] <flipstar> installing ntfs-3g ?
[22:54] <jussi01> creeps: thats quite old...
[22:54] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | creeps
[22:54] <ubotu> creeps: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[22:55] <Daisuke_Ido> and now i get the joyous task of resetting things the way i want them (ie. not using konqueror as a browser)
[22:55] <flipstar> thats pretty easy creeps :)
[22:55] <creeps> yeh for you maybe but im a fresh linux noob
[22:55] <creeps> thnx for link
[22:56] <flipstar> its a pretty good tutorial
[22:56] <jussi01> creeps: look at the link from ubotu
[22:56] <hola> prince_jammys: it seems does not supported but i think that it is a stange thing
[22:56] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam
[22:56] <Oloughlin75> !webcam
[22:56] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:56] <evilbug> any clue on how i can completely remove kubuntu-desktop?
[22:57] <creeps> ahh thnx
[22:57] <Oloughlin75> evilbug: sudo apt0get purge kubuntu-desktop
[22:57] <prince_jammys> sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop? or the above
[22:57] <prince_jammys> can you apt-get purge?
[22:57] <jussi01> evilbug: you can use autoremove, but its dangerous...
[22:58] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys: i think thats what i usually do
[22:58] <flipstar> yes prince_jammys
[22:58] <evilbug> i'll try what Oloughlin75 said :) thanks
[22:58] <prince_jammys> interesting, there's also an option --purge
[22:59] <flipstar> man apt-get |grep purge
[22:59] <jussi01> you can do both iirc
[22:59] <asdfasdfasdf> hi i have kde 4 with kde 3 too, i want to use kde 4.0.1 in spanish how can i do that?
[22:59] <ps3kubuntu> Can i watch divx films installing only vlc player  , or do i have to install w32codecs too ?
[23:00] <ps3kubuntu> in kubuntu 7.10
[23:00] <flipstar> asdfasdfasdf: install kde-l10n-es
[23:00] <creeps> right adding new apps now
[23:00] <asdfasdfasdf> that will work in kde 4.0.1 flipstar ?
[23:00] <flipstar> yes
[23:00] <asdfasdfasdf> okay thank u
[23:01] <flipstar> kde-l10n-es - Spanish (es) localisation files for KDE4
[23:01] <jussi01> ps3kubuntu: I think kubuntu-restricted-extras should get most of what you need
[23:01] <asdfasdfasdf> oh and using adept 3?
[23:01] <asdfasdfasdf> kde 3  i mean
[23:01] <flipstar> i though vlc will come with it own codecs..
[23:02] <ps3kubuntu> jussi01: how can i install them sudo apt-get kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[23:02] <jussi01> flipstar: oh yeah
[23:02] <jussi01> ps3kubuntu: yep
[23:02] <flipstar> asdfasdfasdf: systemsetting>language
[23:02] <jussi01> !avi | ps3kubuntu
[23:02] <ubotu> ps3kubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:02] <asdfasdfasdf> flipstar, no workin, nothing in the dropdown list
[23:02] <flipstar> you have to add it
[23:03] <fevel> hello
[23:03] <creeps> how do i find what version of ubunto ive got?
[23:03] <jussi01> hi
[23:03] <jussi01> !version | creeps
[23:03] <ubotu> creeps: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[23:03] <fevel> how can I get hotkeys on the keyboard to work?
[23:03] <asdfasdfasdf> there i did sudo apt-get install kde-l10n-es :D
[23:03] <fevel> on a notebook
[23:03] <creeps> thnx
[23:04] <ps3kubuntu> thanks jussi01
[23:04] <creeps> Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> fevel- keytouch might do it for you
[23:04] <jussi01> :)
[23:04] <creeps> that the 1?
[23:04] <jussi01> yeah
[23:04] <jussi01> creeps: thats getting old now
[23:04] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam
[23:04] <creeps> yeh just realised
[23:05] <creeps> ill upgrade soon as i can get round my current problem
[23:05] <creeps> which is much bigger
[23:05] <jussi01> creeps: you will probably find upgrading fixes said problem
[23:06] <creeps> no i need to get something off my storage drive for my winbdows install
[23:06] <asdfasdfasdf> to install aps in kde 4 should can i use adept 3 or ill have to do it using a terminal?
[23:07] <jussi01> asdfasdfasdf: for kde4 support please use #kubuntu-kde4
[23:07] <asdfasdfasdf> sorry didnt know
[23:07] <asdfasdfasdf> bye
[23:10] <Oloughlin75> !moblock
[23:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moblock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:11] <Oloughlin75> !info moblock
[23:11] <ubotu> Package moblock does not exist in gutsy
[23:11] <Oloughlin75> are there any alternatives fro moblock?
[23:11] <mrunagi> !universe
[23:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[23:12] <mrunagi> how do i enable universe and multiverse
[23:13] <hola> im not able to configure my webcam
[23:14] <mrunagi> hola: good luck man webcams and kubuntu do not play well
[23:14] <mrunagi> !dvd
[23:14] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:14] <fevel> I cant install kde4 packages adept says it will possibly break system
[23:14] <creeps> is there anyway i can upgrade to more recent release?
[23:15] <creeps> !upgrade
[23:15] <mrunagi> WHY cant knetworkmanager refresh wireless lists =/
[23:16] <MrJigsaw> wich codecs do i need for kaffeine ?
[23:17] <mrunagi> !codec
[23:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:17] <hola> mrunagi: do you know iin which channel can i ask
[23:17] <mrunagi> !webcam | hola
[23:17] <ubotu> hola: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[23:18] <creeps> is there a upgrade from Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS to 7.20
[23:18] <creeps> or reinstall of newer version?
[23:18] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: you're better off installing gutsy fresh
[23:18] <creeps> 7.10*
[23:18] <Daisuke_Ido> here's why: you would have to go through the entire upgrade chain
[23:18] <creeps> gutsy ?
[23:18] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: 7.10 = gutsy gibbon
[23:19] <creeps> ahhh cool
[23:19] <edju> I hate showing my ignorance in public, but I can't find a package list at ubuntu.com.  I need the hardy deb for alsa.
[23:19] <MrJigsaw> mrunagi: that dosent ahelp at all
[23:19] <creeps> geuss ill dl will have trouble when it omes to burning a dvd for it?
[23:19] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: you shouldn't, no
[23:19] <creeps> gd gd
[23:19] <Daisuke_Ido> MrJigsaw: kubuntu-restricted-extras should do you
[23:20] <MrJigsaw> okay
[23:20] <creeps> is the amd 64bit version gd?
[23:21] <ps3kubuntu> how can i uninstall ubuntu-restricted-extras ? i installed them accidentally , i m using kubuntu :)
[23:21] <ps3kubuntu> i will uninstall them and install kubuntus
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: how much ram do you have?  and do you do a LOT of video rendering, things like that?
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> ps3kubuntu: won't hurt to keep them
[23:22] <ps3kubuntu> i did " sudo apt-get remove ubuntu....." is it enough or i must use --purge or something else ?
[23:22] <creeps> well i got 2.5 gb usually just use 2gb
[23:23] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: then stick with 32-bit
[23:23] <creeps> i would like to get into more video and art work , i just play around at minute need better apps
[23:23] <Daisuke_Ido> you're not going to get enough of a performance increase to justify the headaches :)
[23:23] <creeps> ok cool
[23:24] <catomannen> Anyone had any luck installing ubuntu on a K8 neo 4 mobo? I shure haven't, do i need to give up? buy a new mobo?
[23:24] <creeps> will i be able to burn this onto a dvd it looks cd size
[23:25] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: which one?
[23:25] <creeps> 7.10
[23:25] <phoenixz> Is the story on this link something we might find back on the Linux desktop ?  http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
[23:25] <Daisuke_Ido> right, but what's the actual file?
[23:25] <icanhasadmin> anyone familiar with alsa on SB450 ati hda drivers?
[23:25] <creeps> 7.10 desktop 695 mb
[23:26] <creeps> iso
[23:26] <Daisuke_Ido> that's teh cd, yes
[23:26] <Daisuke_Ido> there should be a dvd as well
[23:26] <Daisuke_Ido> either one you can burn as an image to a dvd and it won't matter, the only difference is the number of packages included by default on the disc
[23:26] <mhollisjr> if I installed Ubuntu, and I install the kubuntu-desktop package, am I going to run into compiz issues? or should it work just fine?
[23:27] <creeps> pk thanx daisuke
[23:27] <creeps> ok*
[23:27] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[23:27] <MrUnagi> anyone have msn crash kopete?
[23:28] <Dragnslcr> MrUnagi- there are some known issues, yeah
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> mmm. unagi..
[23:29] <hoisn> hi, when i try to install the 4.0.1 packages, the package  kdebase-bin-kde3 will be removed. does that mean that i cant use kde4 alongside with kde3?
[23:29] <Oloughlin75> what port does konversation use?
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> that all depends
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> Oloughlin75: ... i don't think it does?
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> unless you're sending/receiving files or dccing
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> Oloughlin75- same as any other IRC client, I would assume
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> typically, irc is port 6667
[23:29] <mhollisjr> generally 6000-7000 but it'll use whatever you tell it too
[23:30] <icanhasadmin> right, yeah that
[23:30] <Oloughlin75> lol icanhasadmin
[23:32] <icanhasadmin> :( sorry i'm confused, my sound drivers are still driving me up a wall
[23:32] <fevel> anyone have problems with dependencies installing "kde4" after installing kde4-core
[23:33] <jussi01> fevel: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:33] <creeps> dam that msn virus is a strong 1
[23:33] <creeps> my mate had it for 2 days now
[23:35]  * icanhasadmin eats his sound card
[23:35] <icanhasadmin> maybe if i chew on it...
[23:36] <wsjunior> is there any way to do not show kde4 apps in kde3 menu?
[23:45] <kenro> Is this appropriate to questions on KDE4?
[23:45] <Dragnslcr> #kubuntu-kde4 has better support, I believe
[23:46] <kenro> *groan*
[23:48] <Oloughlin75> is there a way to avtivley view a log? like if it keeps updating, have the terminal keep updating its view?
[23:49] <Dragnslcr> In a shell, tail -f
[23:49] <Dragnslcr> I believe Kate will also reload a file if it's modified
[23:49] <Oloughlin75> Dragnslcr: doesnt seem like it update?
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> tail -f will show new text that gets appended to a file
[23:50] <Oloughlin75> Dragnslcr: even after the command is run?
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> Yes
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> -f, --follow[={name|descriptor}]
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> output appended data as the file grows; -f, --follow, and --follow=descriptor are equivalent
[23:50] <icanhasadmin> WHY IS ALSA SO CRAPPY
[23:50] <icanhasadmin> sorry i'm frustrated loll
[23:53] <Oloughlin75> woooo i think i set up moblock