[11:11] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: If he wants total control over every little thing, go for Gentoo.
[11:11] <heliotrope> hysty, do i just type sudo apt-get install samba?
[11:11] <Angel_Dex> Hysty yep i told him Ubuntus just really restricted cuz theeres no root when he wants to run as root
[11:11] <rage__> just a guess, places/connect to server
[11:11] <Snorkel> smbclient -L
[11:11] <rage__> ;)
[11:11] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: What the heck? How said that?
[11:11] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: You lied to him then.
[11:11] <rage__> Do you have gnome installed?
[11:11] <Hysty> Angel_Dex, create a root account
[11:11] <rewt_> liable, how would i make my wireless button work?
[11:11] <monzie> thats "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf" OmegaAlpha
[11:12] <Angel_Dex> I was told theres no root TT_TT
[11:12] <monzie> but that's not recommended if you dont know how to edit it
[11:12] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Then you were lied to.
[11:12] <Angel_Dex> bastards
[11:12] <liable> rewt_: no idea, but try from cli first, generally easier to see where shit fails..
[11:12] <Angel_Dex> Ho Hum i should tell him that then
[11:12] <nitishp> You do that.
[11:12] <rewt_> cli/?
[11:12] <bart___> anyone know if there is a chm reader available on ubuntu ?
[11:12] <tony__> Hi guys...
[11:12] <nitishp> rewt_: Command Line Interface.
[11:12] <rage__> Command Line Interface
[11:13] <rage__> :o
[11:13] <monzie> yum there is bart___ ,
[11:13] <liable> rewt_: terminal, youknow, text commands..
[11:13] <OmegaAlpha> monzie, ok..what about if you edited it already.. made a mistake and cant get on linux.. butonly a terminal when you boot?
[11:13] <Ng> bart___: xchm
[11:13] <heliotrope> how do i use samba
[11:13] <rewt_> i know
[11:13] <rewt_> where would i check for errors im new to this stuff
[11:13] <bart___> Ng: do I need to apt-get it or is it in Additional Applications ?
[11:13] <monzie> you have a backup OmegaAlpha of your old xorg.conf?
[11:13] <Ng> bart___: probably apt-get, or synaptic of course :)
[11:13] <nitishp> heliotrope: You read the manuals and make your configuration files that best suit your needs.
[11:13] <rage__> I think linux seems to mange cpu throttling on my laptop better than windows. My battery lasts longer :D
[11:13] <monzie> if not do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:14] <heliotrope> nitishp, i dont even know where to open it at
[11:14] <heliotrope> nitishp, i think i installed it :\
[11:14] <amphi> is nano installed by default?
[11:14] <nitishp> heliotrope: Well, verify it first.
[11:14] <bart___> Ng: new to ubuntu.. would almost do emerge :)
[11:14] <Angel_Dex> why no auto mount for floppys?
[11:14] <Ng> amphi: yes
[11:14] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Dude, who is telling you all these fallacies?
[11:14] <Hysty> rage__, damn right it does, I cant get Linux to overheat my cpu, windows does before it even gets to login
[11:14] <heliotrope> nitishp, how do i do that, in complete and utter noob talk, (2nd day with linux)
[11:14] <rage__> I found a ncurses based smb client awhile back.
[11:14] <Angel_Dex> nitishp >.> idk?
[11:15] <rage__> Hysty, P4?
[11:15] <nitishp> heliotrope: http://www.linux.ie/articles/tutorials/samba.php -> That's a quick little primer.
[11:15] <heliotrope> nitishp, thankyou
[11:15] <Hysty> rage__, Athlon XP 2000+
[11:15] <nitishp> heliotrope: http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/ -> There's the beast.
[11:15] <Hysty> rage__, plus its 35 degree plus weather here
[11:15] <amphi> Ng: thanks
[11:16] <quad__> My soundcard isnt making any sound, how do I check the drivers/settings?
[11:16] <rewt_> if a mod needs sudo and u write a script for it, where do you put he pw for sudo in the script
[11:16] <rewt_> ?
[11:16] <bart___> Ng, not seeing xchm in Synaptec ?
[11:16] <rowanjl> does anyone know how to get 5.1 surround sound working on a soundblaster live?
[11:16] <nitishp> rewt_: You don't.
[11:17] <rewt_> what do u do?
[11:17] <nitishp> rewt_: If you need to run something with sudo do it like login_prompt $ sudo <script>
[11:17] <Snorkel> Heliotrope als this link will help you http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch07.html#sect-samba-server
[11:17] <Angel_Dex> Ok heres a que i really got no clue about I really love using hte hosts file Buton Windows the bigger the hosts file the worse off is there anything like that in ubuntu>? i wanna make me host file major big but im scared of repocutions
[11:17] <heliotrope> snorkel, thanks
[11:17] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: /etc/hosts
[11:18] <rewt_> so like this
[11:18] <Ng> bart___: you probably need to enable the universe reponsitories then
[11:18] <rewt_> #!/bin/bash
[11:18] <rewt_> login_prompt $ sudo
[11:18] <rewt_> sudo ifup wlan0
[11:18] <rewt_> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:18] <Ng> -n
[11:18] <nitishp> >_<
[11:18] <nitishp> rewt_: I mean at the command line.. you'd sudo <script>
[11:18] <Angel_Dex> nitishp i know of this im asking is there any problems that may occur if i make it say 51k lines long a few MB big?
[11:18] <liable> rewt_: ffs, /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <bart___> Ng, thanks, will keep looking :)
[11:18] <rewt_> But im not using command line
[11:18] <OmegaAlpha> monzie, no back up
[11:18] <nitishp> How are you running the script?
[11:18] <rewt_> liable, wy do you keep posting that
[11:18] <liable> its a file!
[11:18] <rewt_> ?
[11:18] <rewt_> i made a text file and made it executable
[11:19] <OmegaAlpha> going to try to edit it with nano now to change the simple edit i made back to normal
[11:19] <rewt_> so when I double click n it it runs
[11:19] <liable> rewt_: because it is *the* file that configures interfaces?
[11:19] <nitishp> rewt_: Right... so then sudo <script_you_made_executable>
[11:19] <Ng> rewt_: I think it's trying to tell you that you can do all of your network stuff in that file
[11:19] <rewt_> It's not hwat I need though >.<
[11:19] <liable> rewt_: instead of making half baked scripts?
[11:19] <rewt_> My wireless button doesnt work right in linux.
[11:20] <rewt_> I can turn on my wireless card manually and the button ligths up.
[11:20] <rewt_> If I push the button to trn it off, the light goes off
[11:20] <rewt_> If I push the button again, nothing happens
[11:20] <Sp4rKy> nobody could help me with qemu ?
[11:20] <rewt_> So Im writng a script to make it work.
[11:20] <bart___> Ng, its installing thanks :)
[11:20] <rage__> Do you want it to execute a script when the button is pushed?
[11:20] <nitishp> rewt_: If you want to make this script, then you could either run this as root or have ifup wlan0 && modprobe ndiswrapper which you would name "script" and then at the command line -> sudo script
[11:20] <rewt_> That way I just double click a link to do all the work
[11:21] <Snorkel> Is the sticky bit perhaps a solution?
[11:21] <Ng> Snorkel: solution to what?
[11:21] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Why do you have 51K lines in /etc/hosts?
[11:21] <rewt_> rage__, Id like it to
[11:21] <Snorkel> For running a script as root
[11:21] <rewt_> but I cant figure out how to
[11:21] <Ng> Snorkel: nope
[11:21] <Ng> Snorkel: the sticky bit has no effect on files
[11:22] <Ng> (on linux)
[11:22] <Snorkel> Ok. I didnt know that. Thanx
[11:22] <Angel_Dex> nitishp like i said i like using hte hosts file i combined about 7 hosts files from the net into one
[11:22] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: What is this for?
[11:22] <rage__> Does hotplug not pickup the card when you switch it on and off?
[11:22] <rewt_> rage, no
[11:22] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Sounds to me like it's either a makeshift nameserver or a makeshift firewall.
[11:23] <rage__> have you added the module into /etc/modules?
[11:23] <rewt_> well i dont know...seems to work fine when booting up until it gets to configuring networks
[11:23] <Angel_Dex> nitishp As i know Linux is safe from viruses and malware tho i still use a hosts file to protect meself nomatter what and mostly to just keep the net looking clean and feeling safe Ease on the mind more then enything
[11:23] <rewt_> once it gets to configuring network it hang for about 2 mins then load
[11:23] <rage__> that just executes at boot tho
[11:23] <rewt_> and the button no longer works
[11:23] <rowanjl> Does anyone here have a sound blaster live?
[11:23] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Use a firewall program of some sort then, like iptables.
[11:23] <liable> looking for dhcp..
[11:23] <rewt_> before I get to configuring networks i can push it on and off non stop
[11:23] <zebraFusion> when I "ssh my.remote.ip" and it says it isn't connectable, what am I doing wrong?
[11:23] <rewt_> i added the mod yes
[11:24] <zebraFusion> Do you need to unblock ports or something for ssh?
[11:24] <rewt_> the butto lights up on boot up and when it gets to configuing network the light goes off and the button no longer works?
[11:24] <Angel_Dex> nitishp Hum I feel better using the hosts FIle is there any site you may know of about Hosts files on linux? i have only found them on windows
[11:24] <rage__> have you read up about hotplug?
[11:24] <nbound> !nvidia
[11:24] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:24] <liable> zebraFusion: no, you need to run the service, but if you have a router...
[11:25] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Okay, the hosts file you'd edit is /etc/hosts. No, I don't know of any such site. Furthermore, I urge you to get a software firewall instaed of wasting your time on /etc/hosts
[11:25] <rewt_> rage__, I'm new to this stuff....so no I havent
[11:25] <rewt_> sorry
[11:25] <zebraFusion> liable: is the service running by default for Ubuntu?
[11:25] <Angel_Dex> nitishp what time will be wasted? I find it fun
[11:25] <liable> zebraFusion: no
[11:25] <bimberi> zebraFusion: no, install the ssh package
[11:25] <liable> zebraFusion: ubuntu doesnt run any net services by default
[11:25] <zebraFusion> bimberi, sudo apt-get install ssh?
[11:25] <bimberi> zebraFusion: yep
[11:26] <rage__> rewt_, have a google. You might find what you need.
[11:26] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Clearly our definitions of "fun" vary. Have fun spending countless hours on /etc/hosts editing.
[11:26] <bimberi> zebraFusion: openssh-client is installed by default but installing ssh will bring in openssh-server
[11:26] <Angel_Dex> nitishp Um 10 minutes max man Download the hosts files combind um with me program and replace the hosts file Simple
[11:26] <rewt_> rage__, I tried that earlier with someone in here
[11:26] <rewt_> they couldnt even figure it out
[11:26] <rowanjl> ffs, why does everything have to be an epic struggle..?
[11:27] <rewt_> rowanjl, i hear ya
[11:27] <Ng> rowanjl: what is?
[11:28] <nitishp> Coming from other distributions, I have to say that Ubuntu is easily the most noob friendly distribution out there, so if you think Ubuntu is hard.... good luck with other distributions.
[11:28] <rowanjl> First I couldn't get video playback that wasn't choppy, then I spent three hours making interlacing work, and now I can't get my soundcard to work :(
[11:28] <rewt_> row didu have sound b4?
[11:28] <rowanjl> I have sound, but only 2 channels...
[11:29] <zebraFusion> bimberi, thanks again. You've been very helpful with every question I've had. :]
[11:29] <rewt_> rowanjl, how do you know you have 2 channels?
[11:29] <rowanjl> because they are the only two wich any sound comes out of
[11:29] <rewt_> rowanjl, how do I check?
[11:29] <rowanjl> I have six channels, but only the front two are working
[11:29] <bimberi> zebraFusion: np, coincidence surely :)
[11:29] <rage__> rewt_, I've never had to add anything to hotplug but i'll look into it
[11:30] <rewt_> rage__, thanks
[11:30] <rewt_> rage__, how do I check my channels?
[11:30] <rowanjl> rewt_, use the mixer, select Edit > Preferences and then look for "surround" and "center"
[11:30] <liable> man iwconfig
[11:30] <liable> oh, sound..
[11:30] <rowanjl> I've been searching on google for two hours now, and I've not found anything usefull
[11:31] <Pablo_C> anyone run 915resoulution?
[11:31] <rewt_> rowanjl, where is the mixer?
[11:31] <rowanjl> double click on the speaker icon in the tray
[11:31] <rewt_> okay
[11:31] <rewt_> now what
[11:32] <rowanjl> Edit > Preferences
[11:32] <rewt_> k
[11:32] <rowanjl> and look for surround and center
[11:32] <Ng> rowanjl: it may be that it's not supported by the linux driver. I don't have enough speakers to have needed to find out though
[11:32] <rewt_> i dont see any of those
[11:33] <rage__> rewt_, usb/pcmia or pci?
[11:33] <rewt_> what?
[11:33] <rewt_> the wireless card?
[11:33] <rowanjl> Ng, right, I'll just use Windows then :/
[11:33] <Pablo_C> o.O
[11:33] <rewt_> rowanjl, surround and center isnt in the list
[11:33] <rewt_> rage__, the card is integrated
[11:33] <rowanjl> rewt_, do you know what card you have?
[11:33] <zebraFusion> woot.
[11:34] <rowanjl> probably just a two channel card then
[11:34] <zebraFusion> ssh is working :]
[11:34] <rewt_> yea lemme look t it again
[11:34] <rowanjl> Right, I'm going back into windows to watch some movies
[11:34] <Angel_Dex> anyone have a good Xwine icon?
[11:35] <rage__> There is alot of infomation on hotplug
[11:35] <rewt_> says
[11:35] <rewt_> 54g 802.11b/g WLAN with 125HSM* / SpeedBooster and BroadRange support
[11:35] <rewt_> and
[11:35] <bart___> rewt_, try a sudo lspci, it should show
[11:36] <gnomefreak> you shouldnt need sudo to run lspci
[11:36] <rewt_>  Card: Broadcom BCM94318
[11:36] <bart___> gnomefreak, either way :) lspci is what could help
[11:36] <rewt_> it doesnt say in lspci
[11:36] <rewt_> jsut has 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[11:37] <rewt_> :-P
[11:37] <rewt_> but it is Card: Broadcom BCM94318
[11:37] <Angel_Dex> anyone have a good Xwine icon?
[11:37] <liable> if lspci shows unkown haedware.. update-pciids
[11:38] <rewt_> rewt@ubuntu:/$ update pciids
[11:38] <rewt_> bash: update: command not found
[11:38] <liable> yes, thats not what i wrote..
[11:38] <gnomefreak> you missed the -
[11:38] <rage__> rewt_, http://www.bangmoney.org/presentations/hotplug/
[11:39] <rewt_> 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[11:39] <rage__> woops, im not spose to do that am i? :o
[11:39] <Mabus06> okay, this is really starting to get to me... how come there are all kinds of popups with checkboxes that say "alert me whenever I submit information that isn't encrypted" or going from encrypted to unencrypted, etc. They're unchecked. I've tried checking them, and then unchecking them the next time they pop up.
[11:40] <Mabus06> But still, they keep popping up. What is the point of the checkbox if they're going to alert me every time anyway?
[11:40] <rogk> Which tool I could use in Ubuntu for managing services?
[11:40] <rewt_> rage__, did you get that
[11:40] <rewt_> ?
[11:40] <rewt_> 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> Mabus06: its for mozilla and its because you shouldnt check it and it will go away for each site not all sites at once
[11:41] <DuXia> hi
[11:41] <slide> Can I log in to an X session from another computer (2 linux boxes) ?
[11:41] <DuXia> got a qns here
[11:41] <DuXia> my server keeps having this 15mins downtime intervals intermittently
[11:41] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: for EACH site? How do I disable that?
[11:41] <zebraFusion> Once a development stage of Linux starts "I.e. Dapper"
[11:41] <DuXia> anyone knows why?
[11:41] <zebraFusion> do all updated packages for Breezy cease to be updated
[11:42] <gnomefreak> Mabus06: last time i checked you cant
[11:42] <zebraFusion> slide, yes, with VNC?
[11:42] <bigfoot1> how come when i do some commands in Terminal, I don't get anything but a ">" character?
[11:42] <slide> zebraFusion, any way to do it with just X?
[11:42] <zebraFusion> slide, none that I've ever heard of or am aware of.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: you get a $ or # in linux not a >>
[11:43] <zebraFusion> VNC works well for me, I use it to manage GUI's remotely.
[11:43] <slide> hrm, what about X11Forwarding?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> > = dos
[11:43] <gnomefreak> or python but you get the picture
[11:43] <DuXia> anybody encounters 15mins downtime problems?
[11:44] <nitishp> gnomefreak: It could have been that his/her PS1 variable was set to ">"
[11:44] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: yes, usually i get $ when i run a command, but sometimes i get a >
[11:44] <rewt_> I've gottan a >
[11:44] <zebraFusion> How can I change my hostname?
[11:44] <bigfoot1> and when i get a >, nothing happens.
[11:44] <zebraFusion> ie... veritas@hostname
[11:44] <rewt_> keep pushing enter it will go away :-P
[11:44] <rewt_> Thats what I do
[11:44] <rewt_> lol
[11:44] <rewt_> About 25 enters later it's gone
[11:44] <bigfoot1> for example I tried realplay http://somewebsite.com/music.rm, and realplayer program doesn't open up. I get only > in termnial
[11:45] <rage__> someone should make a wargames speaker box with festival ;)
[11:45] <bigfoot1> rewt_: my purpose is not to get rid of >. My purpose is to make the command work
[11:45] <rewt_> is there anyway to turn on  a module automatically after bootup
[11:45] <rage__> ubotu, tell rage about festival
[11:45] <rewt_> like the last thing it does before xserv
[11:46] <zebraFusion> How can I change my hostname?
[11:46] <zebraFusion> ie... veritas@hostname
[11:46] <liable> bigfoot1: well, its waiting for more input.
[11:46] <rage__> sudo hostname
[11:46] <gnomefreak> zebraFusion: you can do that in system>admin>networking
[11:46] <liable> bigfoot1: so, check out the man page cause you musnt have supplied enough parameters
[11:47] <rewt_> uhhh
[11:47] <rewt_> i just typed in sudo hostname
[11:47] <zebraFusion> gnomefreak, will that save permanetly?
[11:48] <rewt_> and then i put a different name after it
[11:48] <Ng> bigfoot1: > means you haven't finished typing the line you started
[11:48] <gnomefreak> zebraFusion: should
[11:48] <rewt_> closed the terminal and now another one wont open
[11:48] <rewt_> >.<
[11:48] <zebraFusion> rewt_, yeah, you must relog in
[11:48] <rewt_> sigh
[11:48] <Ng> bigfoot1: e.g. chances are there was a \ on your previous line, or a '
[11:48] <rewt_> rage__, still here
[11:48] <liable> rewt_: dont just type random shit in terminals, try and understand what you are actually doing.
[11:49] <bigfoot1> liable, do you want to try one specific command i entered?
[11:49] <rewt_> i wanted to change my host name
[11:49] <rewt_> and someone else did too
[11:49] <rewt_> so i followed the instructions
[11:49] <rewt_> sudo hostname
[11:49] <liable> bigfoot1: i dont have realplayer
[11:50] <Ng> rewt_: if you want to change your hostname permanently you probably want to use the network admin tool
[11:50] <gnomefreak> rewt_: use the graphical way. its more user friendly
[11:50] <liable> rewt_: no, edit /etc/hostname, then run hostname
[11:50] <rewt_> ill brb gotta restart now :(
[11:50] <amphi> rewt_: echo your_hostname | sudo tee /etc/hostname
[11:50] <Ng> rewt_: if you just restart after running sudo hostname your hostname will go back to what it was
[11:50] <Ng> amphi: isn't that a little bit convoluted? ;)
[11:50] <liable> rewt_: why reboot?
[11:50] <Ng> amphi: especially when three solutions were just presented
[11:50] <amphi> Ng: is it?
[11:50] <rewt_> because i cannot get into terminal
[11:51] <zebraFusion> I just logged out and logged back in
[11:51] <zebraFusion> and my hostname is what I changed it to
[11:51] <bigfoot1> Ng: on the dvorak keyboard layout, where is the  \ character?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> zebraFusion: good :)
[11:51] <amphi> Ng: lot quicker than opening /etc/hostname in an editor or blundering about in dialog boxes and menus </curmudgeon>
[11:51] <rewt_> how do i open terminal now>.<
[11:51] <rewt_> its like my permission is denied
[11:51] <zebraFusion> rewt_, just log out and log back in. Easy.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> rewt_: have you logged out yet?
[11:52] <rewt_> not yet
[11:52] <rewt_> h/o
[11:52] <gnomefreak> rewt_: well than try it
[11:52] <cimek> hello all
[11:52] <zebraFusion> is there a terminal cmd to restart a certain Aplication?
[11:52] <bigfoot1> Ng, no, in my command, i didn't have a \, nor a '. But i have / (as in URLs)
[11:53] <rewt_> uh oh
[11:53] <rewt_> it said add something to /etc/hosts
[11:53] <cimek> how do i change my desktop color on UBUNTU?
[11:53] <rewt_> and now my resolution is all messed up :(
[11:53] <liable> zebraFusion: kill it, then retart it, unless its a daemon, you cant restart with a single command
[11:53] <rewt_> what do i do???
[11:53] <rewt_> :'(
[11:55] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:~$ sudo hostname ubuntu
[11:55] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[11:55] <happie> hallo
[11:55] <liable> err, just hostname..
[11:56] <rewt_> i changed my hostname on aacident
[11:56] <rewt_> my hostname used to be ubuntu
[11:56] <rewt_> i changed it in terminal by typing   sudo hostname tEoti
[11:56] <rewt_> how do I get it back to normal?
[11:57] <Aegir> rewt_, sudo hostname ubuntu
[11:57] <manty> Aegir: it doesn't change it, reboot?
[11:57] <rewt_> Aegir, i did that
[11:57] <liable> rewt_: it will not have changed. you need to edit the hots file. sudo hostname ubuntu
[11:57] <liable> back to naormal..
[11:57] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:~$ sudo hostname ubuntu
[11:57] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[11:58] <liable> cat /etc/hosts
[11:58] <liable> err.. hostname..
[11:59] <rewt_> my /etc/hostname says my hostname is ubuntu
[11:59] <rewt_> but when I go to terminal and type in hostname
[11:59] <rewt_> it says tEoti
[12:00] <gnomefreak> rewt_: whats after the @ sign in the prompt?
[12:00] <rewt_> tEoti
[12:00] <bigfoot1> i have a japanese keyboard, but am using English Dvorak keyboard layout. ANybody else with a similar situation?
[12:00] <rewt_> i logged out hten back in
[12:00] <rewt_> and it still has tEoti
[12:00] <gnomefreak> rewt_: sudo hostname ubuntu  than log out and back in
[12:00] <cimek> how do i change my desktop backround?.....i can't even browse my floppy
[12:00] <rewt_> gnomefreak, should it say this
[12:00] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:~$ sudo hostname ubuntu
[12:00] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[12:00] <gnomefreak> rewt_: than go to system>admin>networking and change it there
[12:01] <rewt_> i want it to be ubuntu again
[12:01] <bart___> anyone know a good equalizer sound app ?
[12:01] <rewt_> gnomefreak, help me :(
[12:01] <gnomefreak> rewt_: try it with the networking tool in gnome that should change it to ubuntu
[12:02] <rewt_> i cant get to it it's like im denied access
[12:02] <gnomefreak> see above to find it
[12:03] <rewt_> gnome ??
[12:03] <rewt_> i cant get into networking
[12:03] <liable> rewt_: sudo hostname -F /etc/hostname
[12:03] <gnomefreak> rewt_: give me a sec im thinking
[12:03] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:/$ sudo hostname -F /etc/hostname
[12:03] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[12:04] <gnomefreak> rewt_: you wont beable to use sudo thats why im thinking :(
[12:04] <bigfoot1> how do i convert a wav file to mp3, keeping the bitrate the same (so that the file is not any bigger than it should be, nor is it smaller that the audio quality is compromised).
[12:04] <bigfoot1> keeping the audio quality the same.
[12:04] <rewt_> :(
[12:04] <bigfoot1> hey guys
[12:05] <manty> bigfoot1: flac?
[12:05] <bart___> bigfoot1, cant be done, wav is a non bitrate format, mp3 is bitrate based, so there is always a loss unless you go for insane bitrate
[12:05] <liable> rewt_: cat /etc/hosts
[12:05] <gnomefreak> rewt_: what happens when you type sudo hostname tEoti than log out nad back in
[12:05] <bigfoot1> manty: if flac, how?
[12:06] <rewt_> liable, cat?
[12:06] <GURT> how do i get my usbdrive to not be read only?
[12:06] <bigfoot1> bart___: oh. but can we keep the drop in audio quality negligibe (not heard in human ears)?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> rewt_: yes cat
[12:06] <rewt_> what is cat?
[12:07] <bart___> bigfoot1, yeah, probably best done on varbitrate or 192 oe 256
[12:07] <gnomefreak> a command :) read man cat
[12:07] <rewt_> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[12:07] <rewt_> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[12:07] <rewt_> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[12:07] <rewt_> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[12:07] <rewt_> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[12:07] <rewt_> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[12:07] <rewt_> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[12:07] <rewt_> ?
[12:08] <bart___> rewt you miss something like: <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost.localdomain   localhost       sion
[12:08] <gnomefreak> rewt_: if you change the host so all match than change it from the netwok tool it should fix everything
[12:08] <rewt_> so what do i do
[12:08] <bigfoot1> bart___: ok. so how do you suggest converting wav to mp3, and to do it in various bitrates, so i can test what bitrate is optimal for my ears?
[12:08] <bart___> rewt_, try what gnome says
[12:08] <rewt_> i dont understand what he is saying
[12:08] <rewt_> im new to this stuff
[12:09] <gnomefreak> rewt_: sudo hostname tE whatever it is
[12:09] <bart___> bigfoot1, beauty of var is it adjusts bitrate where needed and has an overall better quality
[12:09] <rewt_> yeA
[12:09] <gnomefreak> than logout and back in
[12:09] <rewt_> so instead of doing sudo hostname ubuntu
[12:09] <rewt_> do sudo hostname tEoti
[12:09] <rewt_> ?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> go to system>admin>networking and change it to ubuntu there log out and back in :)
[12:09] <bigfoot1> bart___: that sounds nice. so Var it will be for me.
[12:09] <gnomefreak> rewt_: yes they need to match
[12:09] <bigfoot1> bart___: what program should we use for wav to mp3 conversion?
[12:09] <bart___> bigfoot1, do one on var, and same song on 256, and compare :)
[12:10] <arno_> !easysource
[12:10] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:10] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:/$ sudo hostname tEoti
[12:10] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[12:10] <gnomefreak> rewt_: what does sudo -i output?
[12:10] <bart___> bigfoot1, I have not made mp3's on ubuntu/linux yet :) but someone suggested one earlier
[12:10] <bigfoot1> when, bart___?
[12:10] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:/$ sudo -i
[12:10] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[12:10] <bigfoot1> before i stepped into the room?
[12:10] <bigfoot1> this hour?
[12:11] <bart___> bigfoot1, flac ? I dont know it
[12:11] <Hoxzer> is there any program that can automaticaly remove not connectable repos from sources.list?
[12:11] <bart___> bigfoot1, check your application list
[12:12] <bart___> bigfoot1, there is one called SOund Converter there
[12:12] <bart___> bigfoot1, A simple sound converter application for the GNOME environment. It reads anything the GStreamer library can read, and writes WAV, FLAC, MP3, and Ogg Vorbis files.
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Hoxzer: not that i ever seen
[12:12] <Hoxzer> :(
[12:12] <gnomefreak> rewt_: this is bad
[12:12] <rewt_> :(
[12:13] <rewt_> what do i do :'(
[12:13] <bart___> rewt_, what says: cat /etc/hostname
[12:13] <gnomefreak> it is a good way to teach how sudo is safer than su :( if used right
[12:13] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:/$ cat /etc/hostname
[12:13] <rewt_> ubuntu
[12:13] <bart___> thats good
[12:14] <monzie> I have gotten a pgp problem, can someone please help?
[12:14] <bigfoot1> is there a way to get an ipod to play Flac format files?
[12:14] <bart___> your hosts file is still bad
[12:14] <liable> gnomefreak: you ban ruin your system just as good with sudo..
[12:14] <bart___> bigfoot1, you on fixed ip ? or dhcp ?
[12:14] <monzie> i lost my pgp key, how to recover it?
[12:14] <bigfoot1> bart___: i'm not sure. why?
[12:14] <bart___> bigfoot1, woops soz
[12:14] <gnomefreak> liable: yes but as long as you use sudo before each command (and have a clue what you are typing) it can cut down on it
[12:15] <bart___> rewt_, you on fixed IP or dhcp ?
[12:15] <bigfoot1> bart___: i thought you were adressing someone else.
[12:15] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[12:15] <rewt_> should i restart the whole compter?
[12:15] <bart___> bigfoot1, I was :) lazy me
[12:15] <rewt_> dhcp
[12:15] <rewt_> wireless
[12:15] <bart___> rewt_, try add a line manually to your hosts file
[12:15] <rewt_> i cannot get into a root mode to edit anything
[12:15] <rewt_> it's all read only
[12:16] <bimberi> rewt_: you can in 'recovery mode'
[12:16] <liable> rewt_: paste the whole /etc/hosts file in #flood
[12:16] <rewt_> the one in right now?
[12:16] <bart___> rewt_, cant do: sudo nano -w /etc/hosts
[12:16] <liable> sudo can edit anything..
[12:17] <liable> i want to see that file.\
[12:17] <bimberi> rewt_: no, it's an option in the grub menu at boot time
[12:17] <bart___> liable, sure it can
[12:17] <a2xm> hi, I need help here.. my samba server has 2 printer. HP deskjet 420 & HP deskjet 3550. client can print to the deskjet 420, but for the 3550 it seems the driver is not correct.. anybody knows? thanks
[12:17] <bart___> liable, try a sudo nano -w /etc/hosts and see
[12:17] <sorush20> !azureus
[12:17] <rewt_> whenever i do recovery mode i never have internet?
[12:17] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[12:17] <bart___> rewt_, can you do: sudo nano -w /etc/hosts
[12:17] <rewt_> so how would i get on irc
[12:17] <gnomefreak> he cant get sudo because the hostname ubuntu has access not tEl...
[12:17] <MatyasZA> Hello
[12:17] <liable> bart___: erm, it isnt me that was wondering about it..
[12:17] <gnomefreak> rewt_: to fix this you dont need internet
[12:17] <liable> bart___: i have root.. :)
[12:17] <bart___> gnomefreak, yes on a networked command, nano may be clean
[12:17] <rewt_> bart___, no
[12:18] <ProfessorChaos> anyone in here running Xgl on nvidia hardware?
[12:18] <rewt_> gnomefreak, i f im pasting something into irc i will
[12:18] <bart___> rewt_, same error or did not try ?
[12:18] <rewt_> same error
[12:18] <sorush20> why isnt' azureus in the repositories? and Ihave to download form a debian repository?
[12:18] <bart___> rewt_, did you google on the error ?
[12:18] <bart___> rewt_, or search the ubuntu forums on it ?
[12:18] <liable> rewt_: the top line of /etc/hosts
[12:18] <gnomefreak> sorush20: its non free
[12:19] <bart___> liable, yes his local host line is missiong
[12:19] <rewt_> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[12:19] <rewt_> is my top line
[12:19] <sorush20> how comes its in the debian repositories then if it is non-free?
[12:19] <bart___> rewt_, thats a fine line and needed badly
[12:19] <bigfoot1> alp
[12:19] <rewt_> so what do i do
[12:19] <liable> rewt_: just reboot
[12:19] <rewt_> okay
[12:19] <rewt_> brb
[12:20] <gnomefreak> sorush20: i have a feeling its not a debian stable repo than
[12:20] <liable> save us all the headache
[12:20] <MatyasZA> Has anyone played around with Network Traffic Accounting Soloutions on Ubuntu before? ANY idea if netacct any good?
[12:20] <GURT> how do i get my usbdrive to not be read only when it automounts?
[12:20] <a2xm> anyone can help me with printer on samba?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> sorush20: i wouldnt use the debian repo to get it anyway
[12:21] <bart___> GURT, mine automounts and is R/W so no idea
[12:22] <GURT> mine was. it decided to stop working.
[12:22] <GURT> thanks for the help!
[12:23] <bart___> GURT, what does your drive properties say ?
[12:23] <bart___> GURT, permissions tab
[12:23] <GURT> drwx------
[12:24] <bart___> GURT, I mean, right click on icon, select properties, select permissions tab
[12:24] <GURT> ok
[12:24] <bart___> GURT, File owner and group
[12:24] <GURT> both my name
[12:25] <bart___> GURT, that should work then but it has me puzzled too since it claims I cant change group cause I am not owner in the bottom remark, wierd
[12:25] <GURT> yeah
[12:25] <GURT> says im the owner and then says im not.
[12:26] <nomad111> !boot
[12:26] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nomad111
[12:26] <bart___> GURT, sure its not R/W ? folders I copy from it come accross RO but I can add files and folders to my external hd
[12:26] <nomad111> !grub
[12:26] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:26] <Arafangion> For some reason I can't resume from standby if I am not running X - any suggestions?
[12:26] <rewt_> -.- no luck
[12:27] <GURT> positive
[12:27] <GURT> i can't add anything
[12:27] <bart___> rewt_, paste the error again and I check the ubuntu forums ?
[12:27] <rewt_> :-P jk worked. sorry for the head aches fells :) i appreciate the help.
[12:27] <GURT> i can't even create a new folder on it
[12:27] <rewt_> *fellas
[12:27] <bart___> rewt_, omg bastard :)
[12:27] <rewt_> hehe thats no language to speak to a lady with
[12:27] <rewt_> I just wish I could get muh button to work now.
[12:27] <Arafangion> rewt_: Unless bart___'s a lady.
[12:28] <amphi> "irc, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents"
[12:28] <bigfoot1> if i have a low qualtiy (64Kbs) mp3 file and i try, using soundconverter, to convert it to highquality 256 kbs, what would happen?Would I just be wasting hard drive space? The sound quality can't go rrom bad to good, right?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> lol amphi
[12:28] <rewt_> amphi, lol
[12:28] <rewt_> okay so now to work on my button.
[12:28] <GURT> bigfoot1: right.
[12:28] <bart___> bigfoot1, yup
[12:28] <Ng> bigfoot1: correct
[12:28] <GURT> bigfoot1: you can't make diamonds by polishing a turd
[12:28] <bart___> bigfoot1, better find a better mp3 of that same thing :)
[12:29] <amphi> bart___: completely useless - the quality would get worse, if anything
[12:29] <cafuego> GURT: You can if you compress the turd first.
[12:29] <bart___> amphi, que ?
[12:29] <GURT> cafuego: it'd still be a pretty shitty diamond
[12:29] <amphi> bart___: sorry, tab-tarding, that was for bigfoot1
[12:29] <cafuego> GURT: I hear brows ones are extra special
[12:29] <Arafangion> cafuego: Trust you to come into this :)
[12:29] <cafuego> Arafangion: What are you implying?
[12:30] <Arafangion> cafuego: Long time no see :)
[12:30] <bart___> any way to make amarok play gapless ?
[12:31] <nomad111> how do u delete kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[12:31] <nomad111> coz i dun need it anymore
[12:31] <nomad111> and the other 2
[12:31] <nomad111> modes
[12:31] <Arafangion> cafuego: Anyway, I must be tired.
[12:31] <gnomefreak> nomad111: find it in synaptic and choose completely remove
[12:31] <amphi> nomad111: apt-get remove
[12:31] <rewt_> brb
[12:32] <Arafangion> cafuego: I also thought I recognised you from #math on efnet.
[12:32] <Arafangion> cafuego: That does suck.
[12:32] <bigfoot1> using soundconverter, i chose, in preferences, to have Variable Bit Rate, but in nautilus, when i rightclick on the mp3  and choose Properties/Audio Tab, it says CBR, or Constant Bit rate. What's going on?
[12:33] <cafuego> Arafangion: I can say with 100% certainty I haven't been on efnet in well over 5 years (certainly not on #math)
[12:33] <liable> amphi: hahaha, thats one of the better explanations of irc i,ve seen.
[12:34] <Arafangion> cafuego: Well I was on there about 4 years ago, so it must not have been you.  With respect to outlook - that's why I like to use eudora, or thunderbird, and have the emails hosted on a samba share.
[12:34] <a2xm> anyone can help me with printer on samba? ;-)
[12:34] <brenner> bigfoot1: er, aren't all mp3s constant?
[12:34] <Arafangion> (Though I'm considering migrating to imap)
[12:34] <bart___> brenner, no :)
[12:35] <cafuego> It's not quick on a K6/350 with 32Mb ram, though.
[12:35] <brenner> rightio then
[12:35] <cafuego> ... when you need to move ~ 600Mb of mail per machine.
[12:35] <bigfoot1> brenner: according to Soundconverter/Preferences, we can choose from Constant, Variable, or Average
[12:35] <Arafangion> cafuego: The only thing stopping me is that I can't be bothered to move to imap :)  Starting uni and all that.
[12:35] <sorush20> anyone here changed to modular xorg?
[12:35] <Arafangion> cafuego: Plus, pop3 is working fine.
[12:35] <kwewu14> is there anything like gentoo's genkernel to automate compiling a kernel and all modules for ubuntu? i want a kernel with PREEMPT
[12:35] <cafuego> sorush20: Probably everyone on breezy.
[12:36] <brenner> like i said, rightio then.  i've only seen flac and ogg files that vary.
[12:36] <sorush20> cafuego: what xorg version 6.8?
[12:36] <cafuego> kwewu14: The default kernels have preempt.
[12:36] <cafuego> sorush20: I thought so...
[12:36] <Arafangion> cafuego: G'night.
[12:36] <cafuego> sorush20: it installs *all* modules by default, but afaik it's still modular ;-)
[12:36] <kwewu14> cafuego: why doesn't it say that in uname -a then?
[12:36] <cafuego> Arafangion: ditto :-)
[12:37] <sorush20> cafuego: take a look at x.org and your see that 6.8 is not modular...
[12:37] <cafuego> kwewu14: Why should it? Check in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[12:37] <DuXia> hi.. can i ask a qns regarding courier pop?
[12:37] <DuXia> anyone?
[12:37] <sorush20> cafuego: join #xrog its in the channel
[12:37] <cafuego> sorush20: Well, there ya go (I'm on 7.0)
[12:37] <kwewu14> cafuego: oh, if i set it there and reboot it'll reboot with preempt?
[12:37] <sorush20> cafuego: do you have ati or radeon ?
[12:38] <kwewu14> i just noticing alot of performance decrease from my gentoo install
[12:38] <liable> ati == radeon??
[12:38] <nomad111> !mp3
[12:38] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:38] <sorush20> cafuego: how did you change over any easy way?
[12:38] <kwewu14> i thought preempt might be why.
[12:38] <cafuego> sorush20: Yes, it comes with dapper.
[12:38] <cafuego> kwewu14: Doubtful
[12:38] <kwewu14> cafuego: any idea why then?
[12:39] <kwewu14> can i set preempt on in /boot config?
[12:39] <Heia> hi
[12:39] <snoozix> good morning everyone :)
[12:39] <cafuego> kwewu14: No, you check in the config file if the kernel is compiled with it. 'man grep'.
[12:39] <Heia> hi
[12:40] <kwewu14> cafuego: the kernel is not compiled with it.
[12:40] <nomad111> !permission
[12:40] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nomad111
[12:40] <nomad111> !ntfs
[12:40] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:40] <rewt_> k
[12:40] <bigfoot1> is breezy ubuntu on x11 or x10 or what?
[12:40] <kwewu14> cafuego: and i know what grep is
[12:41] <rewt_> It is supposed to get in the 70's here today ^_^
[12:43] <nitishp> Has anyone worked with krb5 and kdm logins on Ubuntu?
[12:43] <nitishp> If so, how did you implement it?
[12:43] <AM3X> how can i make my dialup modem get detected?
[12:44] <rewt_> AM3X, Preferences Administration>Networking
[12:44] <rewt_> Click on dialup moden or whatever and hit activate
[12:44] <AM3X> its not working..
[12:44] <AM3X> i already tried the auto detect
[12:44] <liable> try pppconfig or wvdial
[12:44] <AM3X> yes i know that
[12:45] <AM3X> where can i download that?
[12:45] <rewt_> I dunno then....I don't use dialup? :-\
[12:45] <rewt_> Sorry
[12:45] <brenner> AM3X: what modem?  you might have a winmodem. *shudder*
[12:45] <nitishp> Hrm, not sure if that message got through for some weird reason.
[12:45] <snoozix> is there an additional software equalizer that i can use with alsa applications (xmms)? the builtin eq in xmms does not satisfy my needs at all and it sounds crappy.
[12:45] <AM3X> errrrrrr
[12:45] <AM3X> whats a win modem?
[12:45] <liable> !winmodem
[12:45] <ubotu> winmodem is, like, totally, To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[12:45] <xerophyte> does anybody know any hotspot captive software ?
[12:46] <nomad111> !wma
[12:46] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:46] <nitishp> Has anyone worked with krb5 + smb + kdm logins on Ubuntu? If so, was there any way around actually editing the kdm source?
[12:46] <balor> AM3X, A modem that soes most of the work in software.  i.e. not a hardware modem
[12:46] <AM3X> ic
[12:46] <brenner> that's if he has one.  he might have just selected the wrong device
[12:46] <AM3X> is there a list of win modems?
[12:46] <snoozix> just rm all wma's and everything works.
[12:46] <rewt_> How do I get my sounds to work even while im listening to music?
[12:46] <brenner> AM3X: read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[12:47] <rewt_> IF I listen to music all other sounds go away
[12:47] <AM3X> ok thanks to you all
[12:47] <rewt_> I want them to all play at once.
[12:48] <rewt_> AM3X, sorry I wasn't much help.
[12:48] <rewt_> hmmmm
[12:49] <brenner> ubotu: tell rewt_ about sound
[12:51] <nomad111> !kubuntu
[12:51] <ubotu> kubuntu is probably Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:51] <brenner> rewt_: right at the bottom of the 1st link, the "Revised by DanielTChen" section
[12:52] <bigfoot1> i installed soundconverter (0.8.0) from ubuntu repositiory. I'd like to install the latest version (0.8.3) from the projects page at sourceforge. is it safe?
[12:52] <brenner> nomad111: use /msg ubotu please
[12:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !botsnack
[12:53] <ubotu> thanks canyouhelpmeplz :)
[12:54] <brenner> bigfoot1: unless it has a big fat warning, why wouldn't it be?
[12:54] <rewt_> brenner, that link u had ubotu send me isn't shyt. My sound works.
[12:54] <rewt_> I just need all sound to playat one time.
[12:55] <Mabus06> A quick off topic question... what is a surge proof powerbar? I use them, but every now and then my monitors go fuzzy, my computer makes weird sounds, my clock resets, modem gets an error light, and my computer turns off.
[12:55] <bigfoot1> brenner: i just thought the repositories was where we should go for all/most of our computing needs.
[12:55] <bigfoot1> brenner: *were*
[12:55] <brenner> bigfoot1: they are.
[12:57] <bigfoot1> Brenner, but it's not synched with the real world.
[12:57] <bigfoot1> brenner: some stuff in the repos are needing updates
[12:58] <nomad111> is there an easy way to switch between gnome and kde
[12:58] <brenner> bigfoot1: well, it's up to you.  either wait for dapper where i assume the updated app will be included, or use the external source ... or maybe use backports
[12:59] <brenner> bigfoot1: sconverter looks like a stand-alone app anyway.  there's little risk of damage by compiling the src, imho
[12:59] <bigfoot1> brenner: i wish the repos tried to get everything in there updated
[01:00] <monzie> slightly off topic question
[01:00] <monzie> launchpad.net not accepting keys
[01:00] <nomad111> how can i switch between gnome and kde any1
[01:01] <Chousuke> install KDE, log out, select KDE session, log in
[01:01] <bigfoot1> is using mp3s illegal?
[01:02] <bigfoot1> or: what does it  mean when they say that mp3 is "non-free"
[01:02] <brenner> rewt_: in that case, hit the forum.  i'm sure that's a common question
[01:02] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: mp3 is burdened by patents.
[01:02] <bigfoot1> Chousuke: so who should pay for these? if i make an mp3 file, should i pay?
[01:02] <andriijas> where can i search the ubuntu backports online?
[01:03] <Mabus06> I installed kismet via 'sudo apt-get install kismet', but I can't find the configuration file (readme on site says it's supposed to be in /usr/local/etc/kismet.conf, but that doesn't exist. A search for kismet.conf yields nothing. Any ideas?
[01:03] <allan_> hi, when I try to run winetools, I see these errors: /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3211: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file or directory
[01:03] <allan_> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3242: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file or directory
[01:03] <allan_> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3026: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file or directory
[01:03] <allan_> why?
[01:03] <andriijas> allan_: pastebin.com
[01:03] <Mabus06> allan_: use pastebin
[01:03] <allan_> i will type that in the terminal window?
[01:03] <bigfoot1> how can i easily  find out the audio bitrate, and whether it's VBR (variable bit rate) or constant,  of an mp3 file?
[01:03] <rewt_> fixed itteded!
[01:03] <rewt_> :-D
[01:03] <Mabus06> No, it means just don't post errors in here. Go to pastebin.com and post them there, link to it here.
[01:04] <allan_> ok...
[01:04] <rewt_> had to load a module
[01:04] <rewt_> :)
[01:05] <Kyo> I updated my ubunut ... is it normal for it to update libc6 ... it been stuck there for like 4 hours
[01:05] <Kyo> it wouldn't ocmtniie updating
[01:05] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: nah
[01:06] <Kyo> Chousuke any idea?
[01:06] <Chousuke> bigfoot1:  I think it's up to the creator of the player to pay the licence fee.
[01:06] <Kyo> it been stuck at libc6 for like, 4 hours now
[01:06] <Chousuke> Kyo: that's not normal :P
[01:06] <rewt_> anyway to make all windows in ubuntu semi-transparent
[01:06] <rewt_> ?
[01:06] <andriijas> theres no backports.org like site for ubuntu ?
[01:07] <andriijas> and what do you people say about debian vs ubuntu for server usage?
[01:07] <Kyo> heh nvm
[01:07] <brenner> bigfoot1: any good audio player should show you a fluctuating bitrate while the file is playing if it is variable
[01:08] <bimberi> !backports
[01:08] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[01:09] <brenner> andriijas: you want to search bp right? http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:09] <andriijas> bimberi: i was asking about a searchable website, not apt  :P that i already googled
[01:09] <bigfoot1> brenner: can you give an examlpe on ubuntu?
[01:09] <andriijas> brenner: thx
[01:09] <brenner> bigfoot1: beep-media-player
[01:09] <bimberi> andriijas: there's a link at the end of that factoid
[01:10] <rewt_> Anyway to make all windows in ubuntu semi-transparent?
[01:10] <bigfoot1> brenner:  any others? i have rythymbox, realplayer, totem installed. do they show the vbr?
[01:10] <brenner> bigfoot1: i just tried rbox and totem.  they don't.  afaik
[01:11] <bart___> bigfoot1, I use xmms here
[01:11] <rewt_> bart___, you should try beep
[01:12] <liquidindian> Hello, can anyone tell me how I know what to input to set up GRUB?
[01:12] <bart___> rewt_, no way, xmms is so good on gapless
[01:12] <rewt_> so is beep
[01:12] <bimberi> !grub
[01:12] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:12] <monzie> anyone fluent with pgp here?
[01:12] <rewt_> hehe
[01:12] <liquidindian> Thanks, that second one should be just what I'm after :)
[01:13] <rewt_> I need to figure out how to make all my windows semi-transparent
[01:13] <rewt_> im doing some searching now, but not finding anything
[01:13] <bart___> liquidindian, GRUB can mess you up quite badly if you dont know what you are doing
[01:13] <Ng> rewt_: that's an odd use of the word "need" ;)
[01:13] <rewt_> ?
[01:13] <liquidindian> Oh blimey.
[01:13] <rewt_> Ng, what
[01:13] <bigfoot1> brenner: yes! beep shows a VBR file's changing kbs. nice
[01:13] <brenner> liquidindian: you'll be fine
[01:14] <Ng> rewt_: nobody could "need" semi-transparent windows, you just "want" them. You'll need to enable compositing in your X server and install a compositing manager, neither of which is particularly supported in breezy
[01:14] <Ng> xcompmgr should be available though I think
[01:14] <Ng> the rest is down to your graphics card drivers
[01:14] <rewt_> damn well nevermind then if its not supported
[01:15] <rewt_> Wel i'm off for shower then class then work
[01:15] <monzie> is there anyway to recover a lost key if i know my key id and fingerprint?
[01:16] <Ng> monzie: the only way to recover the private key is to have a copy of it
[01:16] <monzie> on the hard disk?
[01:16] <Ng> or on some kind of backup
[01:16] <monzie> if i uploaded it to the mit server?
[01:16] <mjr> you didn't
[01:16] <Ng> you probably didn't upload the private key
[01:16] <mjr> you uploaded the public key
[01:16] <Ng> just the public one
[01:16] <monzie> i have it on the mit pgp server
[01:16] <mjr> (I hope)
[01:17] <monzie> the ascii armoured thing
[01:17] <Raimundo> exit
[01:17] <mjr> pretty much the point of public key crypto is that you can't deduce the private key from the public key
[01:17] <monzie> so that's lost i guess
[01:17] <mjr> so no go with that
[01:17] <silvermane> Hey, did someone here had lucky installing the Java Media Framework? I can't make it work...
[01:17] <xerophyte> is there any doc like this for Ubuntu http://www.linuxforum.com/debian/ch-gateway.en.html
[01:18] <monzie> i can import it in seahorse, my old key ,  i mean
[01:20] <a2xm> anyone knows why the print job was already send to the queue but the printer didn't print?
[01:21] <bart___> does anyone know a good news reader supporting yENC ?
[01:21] <liquidindian> Is there anyway to tell from the live CD the numbers of my partitions?
[01:21] <aIk0n> whats are the diverens between k8-default kernel and k8 kernel (sry for bad english iam german ^^)
[01:22] <monzie> help: i want to change my key in launchpad and
[01:22] <monzie> it wont accept my new key
[01:22] <brenner> aIk0n: what are you doing?
[01:23] <bigfoot1> is there any reason to make an mp3 file in Constant BitRate when Variable Bit rate will utilize high bit rate in places the song needs it and low bit rate in places the song doesn't need high bits?
[01:24] <bigfoot1> i can see VBR being efficient with filesize and audio quality
[01:24] <bimberi> liquidindian: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:25] <aIk0n> brenner:  i have installed ubuntu_64
[01:26] <andriijas> gha there are a lot of nice packages in dapper that should be in breezy backports
[01:26] <tatters> im looknig for a package wich is same as phpgroupware but will work with xammp
[01:26] <bimberi> andriijas: get to work then :P
[01:26] <brenner> aIk0n: have you finished the install, or are you getting this choice at install?
[01:26] <andriijas> bimberi: i have no clue how to do it :P
[01:27] <bimberi> andriijas: hehe, there might be something from that (previously useless) factoid i dug up for you :)
[01:27] <tatters> is there any other packages like phpgroupware ?
[01:27] <aIk0n> finish the install
[01:28] <brenner> bigfoot1: quick google came up with "two downsides are: slower encoding and unpredictable file sizes"
[01:28] <xerophyte> how can i stop some service not to start on the boot for example on fedora i had chkconfig .. is there any commands for ubuntu
[01:29] <aIk0n> brenner: now i want to install nvidia glx like in this tutorial http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=1611&hilight=nvidia but after boot the linux-amd64-k8 the system freezes
[01:30] <brenner> aIk0n: have you already installed the nvidia driver?
[01:30] <gnomefreak> xerophyte: your gonna find that most commands are the same from linux-linux
[01:30] <gnomefreak> outside of root and packagemanager
[01:30] <xerophyte> gnomefreak, is there any script to manage the boot start services ???
[01:30] <aIk0n> no
[01:31] <aIk0n> brenner:  no
[01:31] <xerophyte> how can i manage the boot start up services ??
[01:31] <brenner> xerophyte: sysv-rc-conf maybe?
[01:31] <brenner> aIk0n: so this is your first boot?
[01:32] <guerra> hail all
[01:32] <xerophyte> brenner, do you use it
[01:32] <sismis> good evenin
[01:32] <brenner> xerophyte: i have used it, yes
[01:32] <xerophyte> brenner, if you dont use that how can you manage it .. why does the standard install does not have it
[01:32] <sismis> hello
[01:32] <sismis> is anybody there
[01:32] <kryptoz> i went back from ubuntu to slackware . :) and i feel happy cuz there are hell lot of problems in slackware which will keep me busy for days :)
[01:32] <sismis> my name is Jo
[01:32] <brenner> xerophyte: maybe b/c most people don't need to tweak their start-up services
[01:33] <brenner> aIk0n: and is this dapper? because afaik, breezy doesn't a k8 kernel
[01:33] <andriijas> hmm what do you guys think of debian sarge with backports vs ubuntu dapper for development server using?
[01:33] <brenner> *doesn't have a
[01:33] <Angel_Dex> SO would anyone have any idea why i have no sound with Zsnes?
[01:33] <aIk0n> brenner:  ist breezy
[01:33] <sismis> HELLO
[01:34] <aIk0n> brenner: after installing nvidia it is work
[01:34] <brenner> Angel_Dex: try 'killall esd' before running it
[01:34] <aIk0n> brenner: but whats the diverens between k8 default and k8
[01:34] <sismis> can you tell me how to make partitions on a hard drive where win exists
[01:34] <takedown> brenner: linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8, breezy have a k8 kernel
[01:34] <sismis> HELLO
[01:34] <xerophyte> brenner, if you want to do manually how can i do i t
[01:34] <poningru> sismis: dude calm down
[01:34] <brenner> aIk0n: my guess is nothing.  they're the same
[01:34] <bimberi> locate zimbra
[01:35] <bimberi> D'Oh
[01:35] <sismis> poningru: did I say something wrong
[01:35] <brenner> !info linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[01:35] <poningru> sismis: the many hellos
[01:35] <Angel_Dex> brenner that worked but no system nor gaim soundsnow?
[01:35] <sismis> oh sorry
[01:35] <poningru> sismis: are you trying to dualboot?
[01:35] <sismis> but no one relpied
[01:35] <sismis> replied
[01:35] <poningru> sismis: take a look at the topic
[01:35] <sismis> no one even said hello to me :-(
[01:35] <IdleOne> lol
[01:36] <poningru> sismis: dont worry about it
[01:36] <sismis> yes, dualboot
[01:36] <poningru> !dualboot
[01:36] <ubotu> it has been said that dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:36] <nikon-ubuntu> dualboot = fun :D
[01:36] <Mabus06> I'm trying to set up kismet on ubuntu but I don't know what to set for the capture source... here () is a link to the part where it says what to use for the capture source, I use a Dlink DWL-G520 rev b, and this card works in the required mode (capture) and has been used successfully for airsnort. I just never had to install a driver (it worked out of the box on ubuntu), so I don't know what to pick.
[01:36] <andriijas> dualboot sucks
[01:36] <brenner> takedown: <ubotu> " Package 'linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8' does not exist" ... are you sure?
[01:36] <nikon-ubuntu> andriijas, its great when you have a company that still uses windows ;)
[01:37] <brenner> Angel_Dex: try restarting esd again.
[01:37] <takedown> brenner: sure, i used breezy x86_64 and have this kernel
[01:37] <Mabus06> http://pastebin.ca/41828
[01:37] <gnomefreak> brenner: ubotu doesnt know that command is what it means by does not exsist
[01:37] <Mabus06> Sorry ^^ there is the link
[01:37] <andriijas> the fact that you playaround and dualbooting at a company tells us how serious that company is
[01:37] <Angel_Dex> brenner how?
[01:38] <brenner> Angel_Dex: alt+f2. then type in esd
[01:38] <Angel_Dex> ok
[01:38] <brenner> Angel_Dex: i'm not sure really, i just recall having the same problem, and kiling esd fixed it.  i didn't check other sounds
[01:38] <poningru> sismis: did you get that?
[01:38] <guerra> hail all, i face a weird problem and id like to see if anyoen can help me. When i try to change terminas ( like pressin shit+alt+f1 ) i always get my screen screwed, liek some weird colors and the whole pc get stuck so i have to restart. I have ati Radeon and use those fglrx drivers.
[01:38] <sismis> is there a big chance of losing all my old files I had usind WIN
[01:38] <brenner> gnomefreak: ?
[01:38] <poningru> sismis: there is a very big chance
[01:38] <sismis> did I get what? I got the link, if that's what you mean
[01:39] <tahorg> hi
[01:39] <aIk0n> works acx100/111 with x86_64 ?????????????????
[01:39] <Angel_Dex> brenner it kills all the system sounds
[01:39] <tahorg> I've just upgraded to dapper
[01:39] <Angel_Dex> and gaim sounds
[01:39] <brenner> gnomefreak: i used !info
[01:39] <poningru> sismis: yeah
[01:39] <tahorg> but it seems my devices are not created at boot
[01:39] <brenner> Angel_Dex: then i suggest hitting the forum. :-/
[01:39] <tahorg> some of them
[01:39] <gnomefreak> brenner: the bot doesnt know that command its not programmed into the bot
[01:39] <tahorg> ppp, tun, input/mice
[01:39] <tahorg> what is the package responsible for that ?
[01:40] <tahorg> udev ?
[01:40] <poningru> guerra: yeah dude that config is not so stable
[01:40] <gnomefreak> !info kernel
[01:40] <sismis> so do you recommend format and putting up only ubuntu?
[01:40] <guerra> so no fixes for it yet?
[01:40] <brenner> gnomefreak: i seem to recall it being implemented...people were using it all the time.  it''s supposed to show a short package descr.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> brenner: ubotu seems not to have really anything programmed in about kernels
[01:40] <brenner> gnomefreak: the syntax was !info <package>
[01:41] <tatters> im looknig for a package wich is same as phpgroupware anyone know of any?
[01:41] <poningru> sismis: no just backup your data and do it, many steps can be taken to prevent data loss, such as defragment your windows as much as possible
[01:41] <gnomefreak> brenner: people change what the bot knows daily :(
[01:41] <poningru> sismis: I did it and it was no big deal for me
[01:41] <brenner> gnomefreak: apparently so. :-/
[01:41] <poningru> err it worked for me
[01:41] <poningru> guerra: do you do any graphics intensive stuff?
[01:42] <sismis> which application do you suggest for defragmenting, or should I just use the rudimentary one that comes with WIN?
[01:42] <guerra> i play linux-based nwn, only that though
[01:42] <gnomefreak> sismis: the one that comes with win should be fine
[01:42] <poningru> sismis: yeah the one included should be enough
[01:42] <IdleOne> sismis perfect disk has a good defragmenter also. there is a free trial
[01:42] <retebug> salve ubutoniani
[01:43] <retebug> i'm bill gates
[01:43] <retebug> lol
[01:43] <brenner> billy lives in italy now?
[01:43] <IdleOne> lol
[01:43] <sismis> so can I do more with trial version of Perfect DIsk, or with WIN defragmenter?
[01:43] <IdleOne> he speaks latin
[01:43] <gnomefreak> brenner: it makes using a computer so much more fun when you dont sit defragging for hours on end :)
[01:43] <poningru> guerra: so pressing ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 what happens?
[01:43] <brenner> gnomefreak: agreed!
[01:44] <poningru> sismis: do those give better defragmentation results?
[01:44] <IdleOne> sismis:  use either
[01:44] <poningru> sismis: I dont have much experience with win
[01:44] <sismis> yes, which one gives better results_
[01:44] <gnomefreak> sismis: the win one will more than likely
[01:44] <IdleOne> Pefect Disk doesnt need as much memory to run
[01:45] <IdleOne> but the win version is fine
[01:45] <guerra> screen gets weird when i press control alt f1 and when i go back to f7 it gets stuck, mostly like that
[01:45] <brenner> he's defragging once before setting up a dualboot.  i'd just use the win one and get it over with
[01:45] <sismis> so, you recommend backup and defrgament?
[01:45] <sismis> defragment
[01:45] <AnsiC> hello
[01:45] <sismis> hello ansiC
[01:45] <poningru> sismis: most definately backup and defrag
[01:45] <manty> hello
[01:45] <gnomefreak> sismis: yes always
[01:46] <IdleOne> sismis:  never mind perfect disk just use win version
[01:46] <sismis> anything else?????
[01:46] <AnsiC> someone have the printer EPSON Stylus DX4200 ???
[01:46] <poningru> guerra: hmm hold on
[01:46] <guerra> k, thanks
[01:46] <AnsiC> in the printer list of ubuntu there is not my printer
[01:46] <BeNjI> hi all
[01:47] <gnomefreak> AnsiC: than it means its not supported
[01:47] <sismis> just tell me, anything else I have to do before installing linux
[01:47] <poningru> guerra: what you can do is try the ati's proprietry licensed driver
[01:47] <brenner> sismis: no, you'll be fine.
[01:47] <gnomefreak> sismis: no that should be fine (unless we can talk you into getting rid of win) ;)
[01:47] <guerra> is that hard to install?
[01:48] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  :)
[01:48] <poningru> guerra: not really
[01:48] <poningru> guerra: you can use easyubuntu
[01:48] <poningru> guerra: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html
[01:48] <sismis> thanks!!!!!! i can't wait to start using linux. bye
[01:49] <BeNjI> =)
[01:49] <bart_away> does anyone know a good news reader supporting yENC ?
[01:49] <BeNjI> i am just starting on Ubuntu it's look quite good for the moment
[01:49] <brenner> gnomefreak: for the games right? :)
[01:49] <arnix> !sound
[01:49] <ubotu> from memory, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:50] <gnomefreak> brenner: nope i dont play games im here for java class for the most part that is pretty much only reason its installed :(
[01:50] <andriijas> to install dapper you install breezy and then edit sources.list and apt upgrade?
[01:50] <zulfiqar_> what should i do to get my xVid videos running on my T40 laptop?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> andriijas: or you can download and burn dapper iso
[01:51] <andriijas> gnomefreak: didnt find any at the swedish mirror
[01:51] <andriijas> :S
[01:51] <brenner> gnomefreak: i thought java was platform-independent?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> brenner: it is but class isnt
[01:51] <xerophyte> in the /etc/network/interface file i have iface eth0 inet dhcp .. but it does not bring up the interface but i have another eth1 configured statically thats comes up .. how can i get the eth0 with dhcp on boot ..when i do dhcliet it works
[01:51] <njs12345> zulfiqar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:51] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[01:51] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[01:51] <bimberi> huh?
[01:52] <brenner> heh, something isn't right
[01:52] <gnomefreak> nm someone pulled that from ubotu
[01:52] <bimberi> !factinfo dapper
[01:52] <ubotu> dapper -- created by _jason<EMAIL_ADDRESS>9h 29m 26s ago; it has been requested 10 times, last by bimberi, 9s ago.
[01:52] <bimberi> !undelete dapper
[01:52] <ubotu> bimberi: cannot undeleted 'dapper' because it already exists!
[01:52] <bimberi> but it doesn't - huh?
[01:52] <arnix> Where tf is alsaconf? I'm just doing a breezy install at a friend, but the Soundblaster 128 wasn't detected by the installer ???
[01:52] <zulfiqar_> njs12345, if i install Automatix .. will that install all codes for me?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[01:53] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[01:53] <IdleOne> !info dapper
[01:53] <gnomefreak> zulfiqar_: dont install automatix
[01:53] <njs12345> zulfiqar_: I don't know, I don't use it..
[01:53] <zulfiqar_> gone
[01:53] <zulfiqar_> gnome
[01:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zulfiqar_ about automatix
[01:53] <IdleOne> ubotu Package 'dapper' does not exist.
[01:53] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[01:53] <nuxil> hello people
[01:54] <nuxil> How do i get rid of that automounter ??
[01:54] <zulfiqar_> gnomefreak, is there an alternate application?
[01:54] <nuxil> i hate it
[01:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zulfiqar_ about easyubuntu
[01:54] <gnomefreak> zulfiqar_: read the pm :)
[01:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell andriijas about flight3
[01:54] <nuxil> ubotu tell me about automounter
[01:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell andriijas about dailybuild
[01:55] <nuxil> blah,,, ubotu doent know what automounter is :(
[01:55] <nuxil> ubotu tell me about automount
[01:55] <andriijas> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[01:55] <brenner> arnix: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118445&highlight=alsaconf
[01:55] <nuxil> err
[01:55] <nuxil> gnomefreak how can i get rif of automounter.. i like to mount my disk manualy
[01:55] <zulfiqar_> gnomefreak, thanks
[01:55] <lucasvo> what's the user password in the vmware virtual machine of ubuntu(cdimages.ubuntu.com/vmware)
[01:55] <nuxil> *rif/rid
[01:57] <nuxil> hmm..
[01:57] <meenfreem> hi guys and gals
[01:57] <nuxil> isnt automounter a module for the kernel.. or is it buildt into it
[01:58] <arnix> thx, brenner... But I'm not going to compile anything. either it works without headaches, or rm -rf / and install Kanotix
[01:58] <gnomefreak> nuxil: ive never used automounter but what was the .extention
[01:58] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[01:58] <kyo> How do I install KDE?
[01:58] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ^^^thought that was automounter
[01:58] <nuxil> gnomefreak .extention??
[01:58] <Adri2000> kyo: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <IdleOne> kyo:  sudo apt-get install kde
[01:59] <gnomefreak> exetention
[01:59] <Adri2000> !kde
[01:59] <Adri2000> ?
[01:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[01:59] <nuxil> what you mean..
[01:59] <gnomefreak> nuxil: .deb .tar.gz .run?????
[01:59] <nuxil> gnomefreak, doenst mattre
[01:59] <Adri2000> ubotu: tell me about kde
[01:59] <kyo> Adri2000, IdleOne  thats two different lines .. which one
[01:59] <kyo> oh I see
[01:59] <gnomefreak> nuxil: why doesnt it?
[01:59] <nuxil> gnomefreak, everytime i put a disk in my cdrom it automounts
[02:00] <gnomefreak> nuxil: ohhhhh that
[02:00] <IdleOne> kyo:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop sorry
[02:00] <nuxil> gnomefreak i hate that
[02:00] <gnomefreak> nuxil: no im not sure how to disable that (i dont think uninstalling it would be healthy) i would look for disabling it
[02:01] <nuxil> gnomefreak but if its included in the kernel.. hehe nogood i think,, i need a new kernel then
[02:01] <kyo> it says 'depends on libg11-messa' then it goes on saying broken package o_O
[02:01] <kein>  ubuntu,
[02:01] <brenner> nuxil: sys>prefs>removable
[02:01] <kyo> when I try to install kunutu-desktop ... weird
[02:01] <zulfiqar_> is xvid installed by default when installing ubuntu?
[02:01] <brenner> nuxil: *shrug* i found it useful
[02:01] <brenner> s/found/find
[02:01] <AnsiC> hello
[02:01] <gnomefreak> kyo: kunutu??????
[02:01] <nuxil> brenner i dont
[02:02] <gnomefreak> kyo: did you try kubuntu-desktop
[02:02] <brenner> nuxil: well untoggle away then
[02:02] <kyo> yes
[02:02] <nuxil> brenner what you mean sys>prefs>removable ? your in gnome.. right?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> kyo: dapper?
[02:02] <kyo> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:02] <nuxil> brenner, im in kde
[02:02] <brenner> nuxil: yes
[02:02] <kyo> no, breezer
[02:02] <kyo> er, breezy
[02:02] <Adri2000> kyo: what is the error?
[02:03] <kyo> the error is 'the following packages have unmet depedencies
[02:03] <gnomefreak> try to install the lib  sudo apt-get install lib....
[02:03] <brenner> nuxil: dunno then.  i'm not a kde user.  tried #kubuntu?
[02:03] <kyo> 'kubuntu-desktop depends on  libg11-messa
[02:03] <gnomefreak> kyo: also you can try sudo apt-get -f install
[02:03] <kyo> ok
[02:03] <Adri2000> kyo: maybe you need universe/multiverse repos
[02:03] <nuxil> brenner,  gnome-control-center
[02:03] <nuxil>  ??
[02:03] <kyo> Hmm I think I alrightly did that
[02:03] <kyo> let me double check
[02:03] <nuxil> yea i'll try kubuntu
[02:04] <brenner> nuxil: you running ubuntu with kde?  or straight kubuntu?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> kyo: make sure its not the backports repo
[02:04] <nuxil> brenner ubuntu with kde
[02:04] <brenner> nuxil: the binary is 'gnome-volume-properties'
[02:04] <nuxil> i didnt know about kubuntu when i installed it
[02:04] <brenner> nuxil: but that might not disable it in kde.
[02:05] <brenner> nuxil: yeah. #kubuntu's your best bet
[02:05] <gnomefreak> nuxil: you should beable to see either disks in menu or kde control panel or whatever its called see if its in one of those
[02:06] <gnomefreak> nuxil: iirc you have both kde and gnome settings in ubuntu+kde
[02:06] <gnomefreak> i havent used kde in a while
[02:06] <kyo> in my synaptic repositiory, it says 'boary' when I updated to breezy ... is that normal? And no, it appear I didn't enable the universe and multiverse yet...
[02:06] <nuxil> gnomefreak :P
[02:07] <gnomefreak> kyo: you need to change all to breezy than sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:07] <brenner> gnomefreak: it might be a gconf setting though, and that is probably irrelevant in kde
[02:07] <gnomefreak> brenner: it should still be in menu
[02:08] <kyo> gnomefreak, I did change all to breezy in the sources.list ...
[02:08] <gnomefreak> just like my flux and xfce menu items are in gnome
[02:08] <gnomefreak> kyo: did you run sudo apt-get update?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> kyo: than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:08] <kyo> as for the list in synaptic -> add it still says horay
[02:08] <kyo> er, no I didn't
[02:09] <tm-30740> Hello, I have an issue modifying a diff.gz for a package, what patch options should I use when generating the diff file. I currently use patch -urP but it cause dpkg-source to complain.
[02:12] <sorush20> shouldn't the repositories be in bittorent? therefore reducing costs?
[02:13] <sorush20> at least the option for them to be in bittorent should be available ?
[02:13] <meenfreem> could someone give me an insight?.... I'm trying to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=hp+wireless+broadcom but when I try to change RadioState in terminal, permission is denied? not sure why... since I give the correct sudo pwd
[02:13] <elkbuntu> sorush20, why dont you post something on the forums about it? that way if people agree the devs can refer to the thread
[02:14] <sorush20> elkbuntu: will do if I have time..
[02:14] <Juhaz> sorush20, probably not, the way repositories work doesn't fit bittorrent very well, lot of small files and nobody is going to be seeding with "apt-get" after they're done installing the package
[02:16] <sorush20> Juhaz, how about the option of creating and apt partition where your linux root partition can find packages there .. this means that on a fresh install not much downloading is done right?
[02:17] <stjepan> hello
[02:17] <h08817> hi
[02:17] <stjepan> why is ubuntu so popular (distrowatch.com). Are people just pressing refresh button to improve ubuntu's "popularity"? :)
[02:17] <h08817> no
[02:17] <elkbuntu> sorush20, that can be done already sort of... just burn your var/cache/apt/archives directory
[02:17] <northie> I can't get vlc, or any other programme for that matter, to stay always-on-top. How would I do this?
[02:18] <stjepan> h08817: why is it so popular then?
[02:18] <elkbuntu> stjepan, because it rocks ;)
[02:18] <h08817> its because it is a good and an easier version of linux for beginners
[02:18] <_jason> northie: right click on the title bar > ``on top''
[02:18] <kent> stjepan: becaus peope like it?
[02:18] <instabin> !composite
[02:18] <ubotu> [composite]  at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 -- make sure you read the whole thread.
[02:18] <sdghsgh> northie, did you right click on top bar?
[02:18] <northie> Aah.
[02:18] <northie> Har. I used the programmes own feature.
[02:19] <northie> Thanks.
[02:19] <h08817> stjepan: its a guide to learning linux in a way
[02:19] <kirkt> does ubuntu live cd have the ntpassword reset utility ?
[02:21] <stjepan> I have got ati radeon 9600. is it possible to get fast xcomposite with it?
[02:22] <farous> stjepan: just curious what is xcomposite?
[02:22] <stjepan> farous: cool xorg feature
[02:22] <stjepan> :)
[02:22] <stjepan> transparent windows and cool shadows... very fancy
[02:22] <farous> oh would love to get that :) have same card here
[02:23] <stjepan> heh
[02:23] <stjepan> farous: do you use the fglrx driver?
[02:23] <farous> yap
[02:23] <meenfreem> think i solved that.... no worrie
[02:23] <stjepan> It IS possible to get xcomposite working with fglrx driver, but you will get just a mess on the screen :)
[02:23] <stjepan> you can use new testing xorg radeon driver
[02:24] <farous> stjepan: is it like xgl
[02:24] <elvirolo> hi all
[02:24] <stjepan> from xorg-x11-7
[02:24] <stjepan> farous: whats xgl? :)
[02:24] <apokryphos> farous: not really, but it has many similar affects.
[02:24] <farous> thanx apokryphos
[02:24] <stjepan> farous: it is possible to get xcomposite working with xorg driver, but it will be still quite slow
[02:25] <stjepan> farous: the best option is to use an older radeon card, or just buy nvidia :(
[02:25] <stjepan> !help
[02:25] <farous> too hard to do that now i run it on my notebook stjepan
[02:25] <apokryphos> stjepan: http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:26] <farous> thanx apokryphos was looking hi and low for the link but could not find it
[02:26] <stjepan> farous: then it is hard to get xcomposite working for you (and me) :(
[02:27] <meenfreem> Q: I have a HP laptop dv5000 and got ubuntu installed, but am now struggling with the wlan. On the desktop you see which network is selected... now it only give me the lo option and not the wlan0 option.... I can only get the wlan0 by typing it manually. After typing it manually it does say it has signal, but nothing happens when trying to connect to the internet
[02:27] <farous> stjepan: wait and it will be available. Be patient
[02:27] <kanatohodez>  ?  ...........
[02:27] <stjepan> farous: :D maybe I will be dead before they release a new driver with xcomposite support
[02:28] <ubuntu> isn't he already connected?
[02:28] <ubuntu> maybe its the https
[02:28] <kirkt> does ubuntu live cd have the ntpassword reset utility ?
[02:28] <nomad111> how do u remove kde from ubuntu and all its associated programs
[02:28] <YogSothoth> Hi
[02:28] <YogSothoth> If I'm typing something lile cp dir1/dir2/file1 dir1/dir2/file2 is there a maneer to type where I don't have to repeat dir1/dir2/, or at least a hot key like tab that auto copy the precedent path?
[02:28] <apokryphos> nomad111: remove some vital Qt package or something
[02:28] <farous> stjepan: wait for xgl on dapper
[02:29] <farous> nomad111: did you install it through aptitude
[02:29] <stjepan> I will, tnx for xgl information
[02:29] <h08817> meenfreem: what do u have for your connection? wireless usb or what do u have u have to install the drivers first if you haven't done so already
[02:29] <kanatohodez>  ((  (((
[02:29] <apokryphos> YogSothoth: not really. You could use things like Ctrl+R, or make symlinks etc
[02:29] <apokryphos> kanatohodez: utf8 only please
[02:29] <kanatohodez> sorry
[02:29] <kirkt> can anyone check for a moment ? does ubuntu live cd have the ntpasswd reset utility ?
[02:29] <meenfreem> h08817, I've installed the drivers for the broadcom wlan card.... it's all set up as far as i can see to the linksys router
[02:29] <nomad111> farous, yes i did
[02:30] <farous> nomad111: than aptitude will take care of that for you
[02:30] <h08817> meenfreem: how did u do it did u use ndiswrapper?
[02:30] <nomad111> wat do u mean wat do i do
[02:30] <ompaul> kirkt, if the live CD does not have it it is trivial if you have a network connection to install it on the live system as long as you have ... enough ram
[02:30] <farous> nomad111: just sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop or whaterver meta package you used
[02:30] <meenfreem> h08817, yes, i followed this howto from the forums...
[02:31] <kirkt> i see ompaul
[02:31] <h08817> from forums well maybe you should get the actual article
[02:31] <guerra> I cant remember the nick of whoever helped me, thanks a lot!
[02:31] <guerra> it worked
[02:31] <h08817> maybe u forgot to make it startup when your machine starts
[02:31] <meenfreem> h08817, I'm not sure if it renamed the radiostate stuff
[02:31] <h08817> well undo it redo it and reboot
[02:31] <farous> nomad111: aptitude have a record of the packages that are automatically installed so when you remove a package it removes the packages that were automtically installed with it
[02:31] <kirkt> ompaul how do i search and install it on ubuntu ? does it have a program that manages installations ?
[02:31] <h08817> !ndiswrapper
[02:31] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:32] <meenfreem> h08817, make it startup? I had to run the modprobe command in order to 'see' the wlan
[02:32] <h08817> yes well just try it i have had that problem before
[02:32] <Snorkel> i have also a wireless broadcom in my HP Pavilion laptop and works great with ndiswrapper and Ubuntu
[02:32] <ompaul> kirkt, it does do you know the actual application name? the  synaptic package manager is the tool but it more than likely would be better if you gave me such a tools real name - I know they exist
[02:33] <bungle> !dapper
[02:33] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bungle
[02:33] <nomad111> farous, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:33] <nomad111> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:33] <meenfreem> Snorkel, how did you manage to get it to run? h08817 I'll undo the whole thing and redo it... undoing it? is uninstalling ndiswrapper enough for that?
[02:33] <Kalidarn> hmm im having trouble with "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts" because theyre apparently timing out.
[02:33] <farous> nomad111: close synaptic
[02:33] <Kalidarn> anyone else able to install this package?
[02:33] <farous> nomad111: or the update manager if it is opened
[02:34] <nomad111> ah k
[02:34] <elvirolo> i installed breezy on my mother laptop, and got gnomad2 in order for her to transfer files from/to her creative zen mp3 player but there seems to be a problem with the user rights (for accessing usb devices) ... is there are usb group or something ?
[02:34] <Kalidarn> its a weird package actually
[02:34] <ompaul> kirkt, I have found it
[02:34] <h08817> Kalidarn: did u check to see if it is in synaptic?
[02:34] <Kalidarn> it is.
[02:34] <Kalidarn> ;) im doing it through apt-get.
[02:34] <_jason> Kalidarn: timing out how? contacting the server?
[02:34] <Kalidarn> and it is there.
[02:34] <Kalidarn> its complicated ill paste u the segment
[02:34] <nomad111> farous, that only removed the file kubuntu-desktop not all the other associated software with it
[02:34] <elvirolo> ideas anyone?
[02:34] <Kalidarn> because it goes to sourceforge
[02:34] <Kalidarn> it seems
[02:34] <h08817> Kalidarn: well than just do it in synaptic
[02:35] <elvirolo> it work under the root account
[02:35] <Kalidarn> and its from the official ubuntu repo
[02:35] <Kalidarn> it is somehow redirected to some files on sourceforge.
[02:35] <ompaul> kirkt, it is called chntpw -- you should download this do the desktop from some repository http://archives.ubuntu.com/ and search for multiverse and the package
[02:35] <farous> nomad111: did you play with aptitude defaults? do you remember exactly how you installed kubuntu
[02:35] <elvirolo> please?
[02:36] <nomad111> yep
[02:36] <nomad111> one sec
[02:36] <h08817> meenfreem: don't uninstall ndiswrapper itself
[02:36] <nomad111> farous, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <ompaul> kirkt, it may damage data read this ->>  http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm <-- your mileage may vary
[02:36] <farous> ompaul why not just use the find command with ubotu
[02:36] <Snorkel> I have installed ndiswrapper-utils from Synaptic. sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf  / sudo ndiswrapper -k wlan0 and afterwards setting up the wireless settings via the network icon (upper taskbar at the right). I thought i also did sudo ndiswrapper -m\
[02:36] <ompaul> farous, because it is not installed by default
[02:36] <farous> nomad111: you did not use aptitude you used apt-get
[02:36] <ompaul> farous, its in multiverse
[02:37] <monzie> aptitude sucks
[02:37] <_jason> I don't see any heart, I just see parentheses and a line.  guess I'm used to <3 like elkbuntu
[02:37] <nomad111> hmm so wat to do now
[02:37] <ompaul> monzie, your just misunderstanding it :)
[02:37] <meenfreem> h08817, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=broadcom+chipset+ndiswrapper+howto could i use that 'removal bit' on top of the page?
[02:37] <farous> ompaul hmm ok though i wounder if he can find it
[02:37] <farous> monzie it is just a tool you need to use it wisely :)
[02:38] <nomad111> farous, is there any solution
[02:38] <meenfreem> h08817, cos i just tried the first line... and i got this: Fatal: module bcmwl5 not found
[02:38] <ompaul> farous, its a live cd if he has issues he can come here and someone will point to a url and how to dpkg -i it etc
[02:38] <farous> nomad111: you need to remove them one by one. or search for the most comman package and remove it
[02:38] <farous> libqt3 for example
[02:38] <h08817> meenfreem: once in the terminal give the command ndiswrapper and let it tell u its commands
[02:38] <Toma-> anyone know how to make custom usplash images?
[02:38] <kyo> " Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" <-- what is the bash line to kill that process? my synaptic is closed.
[02:38] <h08817> meenfreem: it will tell you what command to use to remove it
[02:38] <farous> ok ompaul :)
[02:39] <kent> kyo run "ps aux|grep synaptic"  s see if its still running.
[02:39] <kyo> kent, I think so
[02:39] <kyo> but I closed it ...
[02:39] <meenfreem> h08817, thanks... no more driers installed for it
[02:39] <kyo> I was apt-get but I forced quit
[02:40] <h08817> ok
[02:40] <kyo> so I think that is the problem, not synpatic itself
[02:40] <meenfreem> h08817, i'll reboot it now and run that howto again
[02:40] <h08817> now get that tutorial off the site and follow it step by step
[02:40] <h08817> ok
[02:40] <YogSothoth> apokryphos, CTRL+R ?
[02:40] <meenfreem> h08817, thanks a bunch :D
[02:41] <h08817> sure
[02:41] <kyo> well kent any idea?
[02:42] <JLB> I'm new on irc and on installing Ubuntu (>10 years Linux console experience).
[02:42] <brenner> wow
[02:42] <kyo> ;-)
[02:43] <kent> kyo: you ran apt-get before?  Have you checked for any running apt, dpkg or synaptic process?  Really you *must* check that first.  If you dont see anything, perhaps a reboot might help. (if you dont mind rebooting)
[02:43] <JLB> Has anybody a clue why the install processof Ubuntu Breeze does not continue after starting - as required - the user?
[02:43] <kyo> kent, yeah I ran the apt-get before then I force quit (ctrl x)
[02:43] <klippo> question. i did apt-get upgrade. and my window-border changed color
[02:43] <klippo> ??
[02:44] <JLB> I did restart several times. I seems it doesn't mount the CD when it restarts. However manually mounting does not help.
[02:44] <brenner> JLB: er, you boot off the install cd, you don't mount it
[02:44] <kyo> bah, I'll do a reboot
[02:45] <noaXess> anybody here uses exim mta? i know there is a exim channel.. but it's really silent there
[02:45] <JLB> What? It explicitly says to remove the boorCD before restarting!
[02:45] <kent> kyo but have you made sure its not running in the background?  either running "ps aux| grep apt"  "ps aux | grep dpkg"  in a terminal (or by running the tool for it in gnome (the program that lists running programs etc..).  Becaus the message you get is often there when you have a program running using the files.  If no program is running, then a reboot will probably fix it (deleting the lock-file).
[02:46] <brenner> JLB: ohhhh, so the install went cleanly, you removed cd, restarted and it fails ... where exactly?
[02:46] <kirkt> thanks ompaul
[02:47] <ompaul> kirkt, did it work?
[02:47] <h08817> !fonts
[02:47] <ubotu> [fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[02:47] <JLB> I looked and apt-get is running trying to install xresprobe but it is trying for several hours(it's just a test machine)
[02:49] <MatyasZA> I got network traffic accounting to work let me know if you need help
[02:49] <meenfreem> h08817, after doing that RadioState bit.... i got a bash: permission denied message... is that somethign to worry about :S
[02:50] <cybergypsy> is anyone else having trouble with security.ubuntu.com ?
[02:50] <guerra> How do i start the x on 2 terminals at the same time,? is that possible?
[02:50] <pitti> cybergypsy: yes, it's out of date, we are working on it
[02:50] <h08817> meenfreem: use sudo and u won't have to worry about it
[02:50] <cybergypsy> *phew*
[02:50] <pitti> cybergypsy: archive.ubuntu.com has all updates
[02:50] <cybergypsy> thanks pitti
[02:50] <h08817> meenfreem: yes because it might be stopping u from doing something
[02:50] <meenfreem> h08817, i did... still got that message. we'll see if it worked in a sec
[02:51] <h08817> meenfreem: what command are you giving that gives you that message?
[02:52] <meenfreem> h08817, you've seen the install instructions right? after i type done and hit enter, it does tons of renaming, than in the end (i think) it gives me a bash: blahblah permission denied message.... but upon rebooting it did think a while about the network config
[02:53] <h08817> i don't recall the renaming
[02:53] <meenfreem> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:53] <meenfreem> sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/bcmwl5.inf
[02:53] <meenfreem> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[02:53] <meenfreem> for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do
[02:53] <meenfreem> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[02:53] <meenfreem> done
[02:53] <meenfreem> hat bit :D
[02:53] <meenfreem> but upon reboot it did see the wlan... am now setting up the key etc for the linksys router
[02:54] <stjepan> when will be ubuntu dapper released? what month?
[02:54] <meenfreem> april 20th?
[02:54] <Kalidarn> when it is
[02:54] <Kalidarn> and next month isnt april
[02:54] <Kalidarn> is it
[02:55] <Kalidarn> oh my mistake
[02:55] <Kalidarn> i thought you said 'next month'
[02:55] <Kalidarn> rather than what month lol
[02:55] <Kalidarn> im tired.
[02:55] <JLB> brenner: do you have a clue how to proced?
[02:55] <cablop> hello anybody
[02:55] <h08817> meenfreem: i never used the cat command to do that before
[02:55] <stjepan> meenfreem: it will be released on april 20th?
[02:55] <nathanj> http://www.deviantart.com/view/28325729/
[02:56] <cablop> i need some help, do you know how to configure the x-session-mannager?
[02:56] <nathanj> any idea what font is in the menu in that pic
[02:56] <meenfreem> h08817, how would you do it then? there was talk in the thread about doing it manually
[02:56] <manty> Toma-: of what exactly?
[02:57] <Toma-> beer+vodka
[02:57] <Toma-> :D
[02:57] <manty> ahh...boring!
[02:57] <manty> :)
[02:57] <bungle> !sources list
[02:57] <ubotu> bungle: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:57] <cablop> hello Toma, do you remember me? now i discovered the error, i reinstalled ubuntu, just installed amsn and my system was damaged again
[02:57] <brenner> JLB: to be honest, no, not really.  is it still running, or have you rebooted yet?
[02:57] <Toma-> cablop, wow.. yeh..
[02:57] <h08817> meenfreem: thats why i told u to forget about the thread and get the article itself
[02:58] <brenner> ubotu: tell bungle about repos
[02:58] <Toma-> cablop, thats weird.
[02:58] <nathanj> http://www.deviantart.com/view/28325729/ - anyone got any idea what font is being used in the menu etc?
[02:58] <cablop> really wird
[02:58] <cablop> *weird
[02:58] <h08817> meenfreem: the thread is just a recap from someone having issues with it
[02:58] <meenfreem> h08817, the ndiswrapper article... I'll read it through right now.
[02:58] <JLB> No it is still running. Of course I can kill it but I don't know the consequences for the install process.
[02:58] <cablop> and i don't want to udse the amsn included in ubuntu repositories, becuse its really ugly
[02:59] <Toma-> cablop, but, does the one in the repos work?
[02:59] <cablop> I only do two changes, instlling the AMSN and select ALSA in my multimedia systems
[03:00] <h08817> meenfreem: read this part 2.2.2. Command line instructions
[03:00] <cablop> I don't know
[03:00] <h08817> meenfreem: and so on
[03:00] <cablop> i't worked before
[03:00] <cablop> amsn works
[03:00] <cablop> but last edition damaged my system
[03:00] <meenfreem> h08817, thanks again...
[03:00] <brenner> JLB: breakage probably....but i don't see the benefit of leaving it ... being stuck at one point for several hours is not a good sign
[03:00] <stjepan> when was nathanj: I think it is bitstream vera sans
[03:00] <Toma-> cablop, how are you installing it?
[03:00] <h08817> meenfreem: well were not done yet
[03:01] <cablop> mmm
[03:01] <tatters> when I setup my wpa on Ubuntu all I had to do was add my pre shared to network/interfaces and that was it
[03:01] <meenfreem> h08817, true... :D
[03:02] <cablop> I downloaded amsn-0.95-3.ubuntu.deb from amsn website, then installed it using "dpkg -i amsn..."  and then system said me there's a broken package, then I opened the synaptic package and clicked fix broken packages
[03:02] <JLB> brenner: what do you think? I removed the damn thng and it begins to install!!
[03:02] <cablop> so synaptic installed tcltls and configure it, and after cinfigure amsn
[03:02] <brenner> JLB: it's working?  what did you remove?
[03:03] <tatters> yah remove cd halfway thorugh then reboot
[03:03] <Toma-> cablop, was that the only broken package?
[03:04] <cablop> yes the only one
[03:04] <stjepan> will ubuntu dapper come with stable xorg 7?
[03:04] <cablop> then i opened amsn
[03:04] <JLB> tatters; that's what I did and thn the damn thing wouldn't install the rest. Now it's downloading 948 files and I hoep it will install them.
[03:04] <guerra> guys, if im running gnome on terminal 7, is there a way to run another graphical interface on another terminal at the same time?
[03:04] <JLB> How will newbies react??
[03:04] <Toma-> stjepan, no idea. i would say so tho. its got xorg 7.0 in it already, but its still fragile.
[03:04] <cablop> i go to system, preferences, and selected multimedia system selector, and selected
[03:04] <tatters> well speaking as a noob badly :)
[03:04] <cablop> alsa in both boxes
[03:05] <Toma-> guerra, yep
[03:05] <meenfreem> h08817, okay... went through the steps, but no network yet...
[03:05] <cablop> then go back to amsn clic on preferences and changed "play $sound" option to "aplay $sound"
[03:05] <mjr> guerra, sure; just Applications/System tools/New login (or something like that)
[03:05] <meenfreem> h08817, maybe remove the driver again and redo it?
[03:05] <brenner> JLB: to be fair, it's the first time i've heard of that problem
[03:05] <cablop> nothing more, just created a new user account and restarted system
[03:05] <h08817> doing it a million times shouldn't fix it
[03:05] <tatters> out of 20 installation in past 2 weeks only 3 have completay suceeded without errors
[03:05] <cablop> my system was reinstalled this night
[03:06] <h08817> but u did get weird errors and stuff
[03:06] <farous> cablop: does amsn now support voice chat ?
[03:06] <Toma-> cablop, and what is the exact error that happens?
[03:06] <h08817> so maybe you should do it directly from teh top from the article
[03:06] <Toma-> farous, not yet. its got webcam support tho
[03:06] <cablop> no, just pulum sound when somebody talk to us
[03:06] <guerra> oh awesome guys, it was so obvious lol
[03:06] <guerra> thanks
[03:06] <cablop> the error?
[03:06] <Toma-> cablop, well what the problem?
[03:07] <farous> Toma-: thanx i know that but am waiting for the voice
[03:07] <JLB> guys I have to go. Thanks for the info. I hope the system wil install automagically the rest.
[03:07] <Toma-> farous, ok :) try skype
[03:07] <farous> Toma-: using it now :)
[03:07] <Toma-> hehe :D
[03:07] <cablop> after restarting the system, i started my session, and go to menus: applications->system tools->new logon screen (i don't know the true name in english) looking for a new session
[03:07] <brenner> JLB: good luck
[03:07] <h08817> meenfreem: i had a lot of trouble installing mine as well
[03:07] <Toma-> cablop, so?
[03:08] <h08817> of course you have to make sure you have the same workgroup and all setup that you have on the pc with the router
[03:08] <cablop> but, it did'nt work and said me "there were errors, maybe X server is not configured"
[03:08] <meenfreem> h08817, start from scratch. maybe uninstall the ndiswrapper utils and get the latest one from the repository
[03:08] <cablop> but x server is configured
[03:08] <h08817> that would be a good idea
[03:08] <cablop> i'm using gnome now, and i can start gedit, nautilus, anything
[03:09] <Toma-> cablop, so you cant run 2 X servers?
[03:09] <cablop> ok, then i try to fix the problem and i think i need to read the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to fix it, i typed "$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:09] <cablop> but it doesn't work, because gedit is a graphical application and i'm trying to start it as a differtent user
[03:09] <cablop> no i can't
[03:10] <cablop> and all the warnings a nd errors related was shown as session manager errors or warnings
[03:11] <cablop> but the other weird issue is... if i type "sudo konquest" a qt based game, it opens
[03:11] <cablop> if i type "sudo gimp" it opens!!!
[03:11] <Toma-> cablop, thats because konquest is a qt-based game.
[03:11] <cablop> but "sudo nautilus" or "sudo gedit" don't
[03:11] <cablop> yes
[03:11] <cablop> wait me a minutte
[03:11] <Toma-> cablop, dont run apps with sudo :( it can break stuff
[03:12] <damo21> i just installed fresh ubuntu 5.10.... my usb flash wont automount why?
[03:13] <damo21> why does gnome-volume-manager try to mount /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1
[03:13] <Toma-> damo21, checked your fstab?
[03:14] <damo21> yeah there were no entries for usb flash
[03:14] <cablop> i'm back
[03:14] <brenner> checked dmesg | tail?
[03:14] <damo21> it works manually, but i thought ubuntu does it nicely auto
[03:14] <Toma-> damo21, it should do
[03:14] <cablop> ok, but before restartiong my system sudo gedit worked and sudo nautilus worked
[03:15] <cablop> ok i know that i need to use gksudo instead
[03:15] <Toma-> cablop, yep.
[03:15] <damo21> i know the problem but i dont know how to fix it
[03:15] <cablop> but, i was running my system time before, and i was running it by about three months using sudo gedit and sudo nautilus and nothing wrong ocurred
[03:16] <cablop> then i installed amsn, and my system become damaged
[03:16] <damo21> its trying to mount /dev/sda which is the whole device, not the start of the partition at /dev/sda1
[03:16] <brenner> what's the difference?  isn't gksudo just a frontend?
[03:16] <rockbar> hey
[03:16] <rockbar> can anyone help me?
[03:16] <cablop> i think gksudo provides more x graphic securuty
[03:16] <damo21> theres a bug with gnome-volume-manager
[03:16] <brenner> !helpme
[03:16] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:17] <cablop> so, this is the 4th time i instlla my linux, and cheking amsn this is the responsible of the damage
[03:17] <Toma-> cablop, well, dont install it.
[03:18] <brenner> how *are* you installing it?  through the official repo?
[03:18] <cablop> why, i think it changed something in my x session manager, where the x session manager files are placed? i can edit them to rescue my system
[03:18] <damo21> how can i reset the removable media settings?
[03:18] <cablop> i uninstalled it now
[03:18] <cablop> but system rmeain damaged
[03:18] <Toma-> cablop, once you re-install, get the tarball version of it make it yourself.
[03:18] <cablop> *remain
[03:18] <Toma-> cablop, youre doing something weird. that package is fine.
[03:18] <rockbar> have a problem when i am install ubuntu :Unable to install selected kernel: An error was returned trying to install the kernen into the target system // Kernelpackage: 'linux-386' //check /target/va/log/bootstrap.log for the details
[03:19] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[03:19] <damo21> after i edited fstab, my usb wouldnt automount, how do i reset it?
[03:19] <cablop> mmm, the tarball version, ok, but if the amsn or tclstls configures x session management again?
[03:19] <farous> cablop: it is good practice not to use sudo nautilus so often
[03:19] <rockbar> so can help me? ;=
[03:19] <rockbar> ;)
[03:19] <cablop> i'm seriously thinking in use kames instead
[03:19] <cablop> yes, i know
[03:19] <farous> just change whatever dir owner ship or mode
[03:19] <cablop> , but i can use gksudo nautilus instead?
[03:19] <Toma-> cablop, nothing in the amsn package touches X management. I know. i made the package.
[03:20] <rockbar> hm,..
[03:20] <tatters> Y is it bad practice to use suo nautilus?
[03:20] <cablop> then, who touched my x session manager?
[03:20] <tatters> whats the problem with doing tha?
[03:20] <Toma-> cablop, you probably did with all your sudo action
[03:20] <farous> nothing if you are running as regular user
[03:20] <damo21> because nautilus controls the desktop, it mucks up default settings
[03:20] <rockbar> read my prob pls :( the ppl in ubuntu de cant help me
[03:20] <farous> cablop: do you have a program that control your vedio card
[03:20] <Toma-> sudo can add config files with root ownership
[03:21] <cablop> except console commands
[03:21] <cablop> like sudo bash
[03:21] <Kalidarn> hehe thats why i switched to kubuntu, so i could make use of konquror best FM ever,
[03:21] <cablop> video card? the ubuntu default driver
[03:21] <tatters> oh you mean in case some else gains physical access not remote access
[03:21] <brenner> rockbar: bad cd maybe?
[03:21] <Toma-> Kalidarn, amen.
[03:21] <Kalidarn> atleast for a out-of-the-box person like me
[03:21] <cablop> does sound system touches session manager?
[03:21] <rockbar> brenner i dont think so..
[03:21] <Kalidarn> nautillus didn't work in alot of places, whereas konquror works everywhere, in everyway.
[03:21] <rockbar> the problem was at the kubuntu installation too..
[03:22] <brenner> rockbar: have you hit the forum yet?
[03:22] <damo21> sudo nautilus gave me a lot of trouble because it changed ownership of important setting files to root
[03:22] <Kalidarn> kind of like the theorized internet explorer
[03:22] <rockbar> brenner no..
[03:22] <rockbar> first time linux
[03:22] <farous> cablop: make a new user and login through his account might be you have a local prob in your dir
[03:22] <Kalidarn> rockbar: not talking about you
[03:22] <Kalidarn> im talking about cablop
[03:22] <cablop> i only use sudo nautilus or gksudo nautilus, when i need to control reoot files, not for common tasks
[03:22] <farous> as Toma- this might be due to using sudo too often you might have created a file that you do not have permission to use
[03:23] <rockbar> hm?
[03:23] <cablop> i have a new account, but i cant start a new session
[03:24] <damo21> i wish someone can help, automounting is broken
[03:24] <cablop> i must close current one, and start with the other user, now, my gnome doesn't support two users in graphic mode at the same time
[03:24] <Toma-> !automount
[03:24] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Toma-
[03:24] <Kalidarn> damo21: should have made a backup
[03:24] <Kalidarn> damo21: that's why it says to ;P
[03:24] <rockbar> brenner can help me :P
[03:24] <farous> cablop: you can just use the gdmflexiserver
[03:24] <cablop> faorus, please explain me more about  "login through his account might be you have a local prob in your dir"
[03:24] <brenner> rockbar: try searching ubuntuforums.org
[03:24] <farous> in a terminal typ gdmflexiserver -nl
[03:24] <damo21> the original fstab had nothing... just hdd and fdd
[03:25] <cablop> yes, i cant use the gdmflexiserver!!!
[03:25] <damo21> plus a proc
[03:25] <Kalidarn> damo21: readd them then
[03:25] <cablop> this is the problem, i'm looking at system monitor, but gdmflexiserver is sleeping
[03:25] <Kalidarn> if u changed your fstab back to its original it should work.
[03:25] <Kalidarn> using KDE/Gnome?
[03:25] <damo21> Gnome
[03:25] <cablop> when it wakes up, it commit error
[03:25] <Kalidarn> hmm
[03:25] <Kalidarn> i always had problems with my USB floppy drive in gnome
[03:25] <cablop> i cant use gdmflexiserver
[03:26] <Kalidarn> samsung one
[03:26] <farous> cablop: just make a new account and login through it and try running things around
[03:26] <Kalidarn> used to create 32 floppy drives on the desktop
[03:26] <Kalidarn> and keep mounting them lol
[03:26] <Kalidarn> over and over and over again
[03:26] <cablop> i tryied it yesterday, no work
[03:26] <damo21> it creates the correct udev nodes and everything, but it tries to mount /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1
[03:26] <Kalidarn> was quite funny to watch my desktop with floppy drives lol
[03:26] <cablop> i have two accounts here
[03:26] <cablop> mine, cablop, and sister, sakura
[03:26] <farous> cablop: ok just make a new account and loging through it
[03:27] <cablop> i clic on new logon screen, but new logon screen reportme an error
[03:27] <farous> jsut see if your probs are sys wide or not
[03:27] <brenner> Kalidarn: you bothered to buy a usb floppy drive?
[03:27] <cablop> "There were errors, maybe x server it's not well configured"
[03:27] <macozz> Hi!
[03:27] <cablop> (i'm translating from spanish)
[03:27] <Kalidarn> brenner: it has memory stick imputs
[03:27] <Kalidarn> ie MMC/SD/etc
[03:27] <Kalidarn> as well.
[03:27] <damo21> mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat /media/flash works fine
[03:27] <brenner> ah
[03:27] <Kalidarn> plus it was for a laptop that didn't have one
[03:28] <cablop> farous, how can i see my probs?
[03:28] <Kalidarn> useful for boot floppies
[03:28] <damo21> but i want to know where are the config files for gnome-volume-manager
[03:28] <macozz> I need help with keybord variants in Kubuntu... KDE3.5.1 Any one can help?
[03:28] <cablop> farous, do you mean, close this session, after creating a new one, start with the new one, and check if it works?
[03:28] <farous> cablop: you have to trace it down
[03:29] <cablop> well, how can i trace them? first, i don't now what probs are
[03:29] <farous> cablop: use admin>syst>users> and create a new user
[03:29] <cablop> yes, i created one
[03:29] <farous> ok log out from gnome and login with the new user name
[03:30] <fulldisclosure> hi
[03:30] <fulldisclosure> I installed xserver-xgl and I can enter X
[03:30] <cablop> farous i created one
[03:30] <fulldisclosure> indeed I have installed xserver-xorg but dpkg-reconfigure tell me that is not installed
[03:31] <brenner> damo21: don't know if this would work, but maybe reconfigure the package?
[03:31] <farous> cablop: ok logout and login from the new user account
[03:31] <cablop> ok, i'll be back
[03:31] <Goshawk> what about compiz on amd64?
[03:31] <fulldisclosure> someone installed xserver-xgl in dapper?
[03:31] <Goshawk> fulldisclosure: me
[03:31] <Toma-> fulldisclosure, no dapper support here sorry
[03:32] <mzuverink> Why does Open Office 2 not sorrect spelling, do I need to install dictionaries myself?
[03:32] <farous> mzuverink: look at writing aids and select your lang then make sure autocorrect is on
[03:33] <rockbar> so i post at the forum..
[03:33] <macozz> I cannot swith from different keybord layouts in KDE because no layout are loaded... how can I get them?
[03:33] <farous> there is a macro file for installing dic if you need them DicOOo-1.5.5.sxw
[03:34] <naor> Can anyone please help me with wireless internet?
[03:34] <tatters> does kubuntu work in the basically same way as ubuntu apart from it graphics
[03:34] <andreas_1> hi
[03:34] <andreas_1> I downloaded the proprietary ATI driver installer from ati.com
[03:34] <naor> I can't make it work with WPA - but it's working perfectly without a password
[03:34] <mzuverink> farous: that did not work
[03:34] <andreas_1> but when it pops up the dialog to choose distro, it's too large for my screen!
[03:34] <farous> mzuverink: which language you need
[03:35] <andreas_1> I seriously can't reach the bottom of it, where the ubuntu options are
[03:35] <mzuverink> US English
[03:35] <andreas_1> how retarded is that
[03:35] <brenner> andreas_1: hold alt
[03:35] <farous> installed by default
[03:35] <mzuverink> farous:us english
[03:35] <brenner> andreas_1: and drag
[03:35] <brenner> are you following the wiki link?
[03:35] <brenner> andreas_1: seveas has a repo available witht the xorg driver
[03:35] <farous> tools>options>writing aids> then set your language and dict there
[03:35] <brenner> andreas_1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:35] <Kalidarn> how do some people have these problems lol, im reasonably new and i never had any troubles lol not like redhat eeeep!
[03:36] <tatters> its a pain andreas I sometimes have same problem option at bottom and form to large to grab to move or reize
[03:36] <rockbar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131353
[03:36] <Kalidarn> tatters: what size screen do you have?
[03:37] <tatters> 800x600
[03:37] <brenner> tatters: hold alt
[03:37] <Kalidarn> so its on a portege i take it? or somethijnng like that
[03:37] <brenner> and you can drag the window from anywhere you click
[03:37] <naor> has anyone used wpa_supplicant?
[03:37] <Kalidarn> yeh try that
[03:37] <Kalidarn> ;P
[03:38] <brenner> Kalidarn: portege?
[03:38] <Kalidarn> toshiba portege
[03:38] <Kalidarn> theyre the tiny ones
[03:38] <MatyasZA> Hi i would like to low level format my usb stick, how can i do it?
[03:38] <tatters> hey thnx for that tp  brenner
[03:38] <Kalidarn> lol low level format a usb stick why?
[03:38] <sdghsgh> anyone got Xgl with fglrx working here?
[03:39] <brenner> what FS do the sticks use anyway?
[03:39] <mzuverink> Farous: thats what I figured, but it is not working either in autocorrecct or when I manually run spell check, I installed everything properly
[03:39] <Kalidarn> FAT or FAT32
[03:39] <brenner> or ist that a stupid question?
[03:39] <trappist> Kalidarn: protege?
[03:39] <MatyasZA> I just wanna write Fat32
[03:39] <Kalidarn> trappist: read with your eyes
[03:39] <MatyasZA> basically its write protected
[03:39] <farous> mzuverink: hmm do you have myspell installed that is what openoffice uses for spellcheck
[03:39] <brenner> trappist: toshiba portege.  they're the tiny ones
[03:39] <brenner> :P
[03:39] <Kalidarn> seriously.
[03:39] <Kalidarn> he must be blind
[03:39] <MatyasZA> so i figure if i low level format it will work again
[03:39] <farous> and i think it is not installed by default on ubuntu
[03:40] <andreas_1> well brenner that's the one I'm following, and as I said, the ati install dialog is too big for my display :)
[03:40] <andreas_1> which is 1280x800
[03:40] <andreas_1> it's too tall
[03:40] <mzuverink> farous: I will check
[03:40] <andreas_1> so I can't reach the bottom of it, where the ubuntu options are
[03:40] <Kalidarn> lol write protected.
[03:40] <Kalidarn> well un write protected.
[03:40] <brenner> andreas_1: like i said, hold alt!
[03:40] <MatyasZA> there is no buttom on it
[03:40] <tatters> andread did u see breener tip for moving the form?
[03:40] <andreas_1> hold alt?
[03:40] <brenner> andreas_1:  and you can then drag the window from anywhere you click
[03:40] <mod^> how do I resize swap partition? I have a webserver, without X.org or others.
[03:40] <MatyasZA> the customer just brought it to me and now she wants me to format it
[03:40] <Kalidarn> MatyasZA: no button?
[03:41] <MatyasZA> Kalidarn: none
[03:41] <andreas_1> aha!!
[03:41] <andreas_1> thanks :)
[03:41] <andreas_1> I didn't know that was possible :)
[03:41] <brenner> heh
[03:41] <Kalidarn> lol MatyasZA is it a MP3 one?
[03:41] <mzuverink> farous: that was not installed, installing it now, hopefully that will solve the problem
[03:41] <tatters> lol nor did I
[03:41] <brenner> andreas_1: i agree though.  stupid interface
[03:41] <MatyasZA> Kalidarn: its a LG 256MB usb 2.0 flash drive
[03:41] <brenner> i wonder how many people give up at that step
[03:41] <andreas_1> yes
[03:41] <Kalidarn> ill take this to private ;)
[03:41] <farous> mzuverink: i will be here for couple of min so keep me posted
[03:41] <brenner> someone should amend the wiki
[03:41] <farous> mzuverink: check if you have the thesuars too
[03:42] <mzuverink> farous: that worked, you would think that that would be a dependency
[03:42] <farous> ya starange heh. I tried running it with aspell but did not work
[03:43] <farous> run-with-aspell oowriter2 but i had to install myspell at the end
[03:43] <mzuverink> farous: whats the thesuars package named?
[03:43] <Goshawk> is there somebody with Xgl + compiz on amd64?
[03:44] <TotalNewb> Has anyone ever run into a problem where the Sudo root user won't work? I try and open any application where I should be running as Root and it fails to log in root? I only have one user so the password can't be wrong..??
[03:44] <farous> mzuverink: go to open office websit and download this file a macro file for installing dic if you need them DicOOo-1.5.5.sxw. It is not installed by default either and will take care of all dic and thesua for you
[03:44] <brenner> mod^: maybe use a partition mgr.  i don't know how safe that would be though
[03:44] <mzuverink> farous:thanks for the help and info
[03:45] <farous> yw :)
[03:45] <farous> am thinking of going to site now to download some presentation templetes my self ;)
[03:45] <kwewu14> how do i get vim to do highlighting for ruby files?
[03:47] <TotalNewb> Am I at the "You reinstall Hoary" stage of disrepair?
[03:48] <brenner> kwewu14: http://rubyforge.org/projects/vim-ruby/
[03:49] <brenner> TotalNewb: sudo prompts for *your* password
[03:50] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[03:50] <instabin> how do i restart x server
[03:51] <_jason> instabin: ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i can'T mount my cdrom in fstab correctly, for all users. If i've on the second account it said "Only -thefirstacc- can mount /dev/cdrom" or -if i try heck it- "Only root can mount..."
[03:51] <TotalNewb> I was originally given the password password by the guy who tried to set up the laptop. Last night I changed the username and password to 'solo' and 30+coyote. I can log in fine to the system. Firefox and all the normal user level applications work great but when I use any application that asks for a password like synaptic or update it fails to recognize either the new or old password.
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me about the correct config
[03:52] <_jason> TotalNewb: will a command like 'sudo echo hi' in a terminal accept your password?
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i have this @ this time: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   iso9660 utf8,noauto    0       0
[03:52] <TotalNewb> sudo echo hi
[03:52] <TotalNewb> Let me check.
[03:52] <_jason> MetaMorfoziS: well mine has usr as an option as well (it's how it got setup, I don't know that much about it)
[03:53] <_jason> MetaMorfoziS: s/usr/user
[03:53] <MetaMorfoziS> s?
[03:54] <_jason> MetaMorfoziS: substitute 'usr' with 'user', I made a typo
[03:54] <sakura> hello again
[03:54] <sakura> i was cablop, but now im using another account
[03:55] <TotalNewb> Now its not even asking for a password when I use Sudo. I'm so confused.
[03:55] <sakura> oh no, my helper it's not here
[03:55] <sakura> TotalNewb how you used sudo?
[03:56] <wassha> hello fellas
[03:56] <brenner> TotalNewb: there's a time period b/n de-activation of rights
[03:56] <sakura> sudo ask for a password first time, from that time and on it doen't need to ask again
[03:56] <sakura> farous
[03:56] <sakura> :()
[03:56] <TotalNewb> How long is that time period?
[03:57] <trappist> 15 minutes
[03:57] <brenner> not sure :)
[03:57] <trappist> by default
[03:57] <wassha> how can i add exterial source to synaptic gui for apt ?
[03:57] <brenner> there you go :)
[03:57] <sakura> while you have the command line window openned
[03:57] <_jason> TotalNewb: is this the account you created during install?  If so, paste the output of the command 'groups'
[03:58] <sakura> But if you don't want to be asked for a password when using sudo, just add your user to sudo group
[03:58] <brenner> ubotu: tell wassha about repos
[03:58] <MetaMorfoziS> "mount: Only root can mount /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom"
[03:58] <TotalNewb> There is a sudo group? Cool.
[03:58] <MetaMorfoziS> what i need in fstab to disable this?
[03:58] <avalost> anyone know when the new release will be out?
[03:59] <avalost> roughly
[03:59] <_jason> MetaMorfoziS: I believe it's the 'user' option
[03:59] <trappist> sakura: I don't remember there being a NOPASSWD option in the default sudoers file for a sudo group
[03:59] <sakura> yes
[03:59] <MetaMorfoziS> i have use
[03:59] <MetaMorfoziS> user
[03:59] <trappist> avalost: april 16 I believe is the date
[03:59] <TotalNewb> Oh, and last night I did uninstall ubuntu-desktop. Do you think that could have done it?
[03:59] <MetaMorfoziS> if i delete it it said only meta can mount...
[03:59] <sakura> but just add the user to this group and check
[03:59] <MetaMorfoziS> meta is the firsth account
[03:59] <avalost> thanks trappist
[03:59] <avalost> trappist, no more mandrake/mandriva for you?
[03:59] <sakura> i need a help
[03:59] <trappist> TotalNewb: ubuntu-desktop does nothing but depend on a slew of other packages.  uninstalling it doesn't really do anything.
[04:00] <MetaMorfoziS> oh sorry, at this time i'm havent user and get ^^ error
[04:00] <trappist> avalost: I still have a server running it, but I'm looking to replace that too
[04:00] <brenner> TotalNewb: it's just a meta package, only important for upgrade transitions iirc
[04:00] <wassha> i need to add there source of debian packages ( w32codecs)
[04:00] <avalost> trappist, I don't blame you
[04:00] <brenner> wassha: just get the deb file and dpkg -i
[04:00] <brenner> if it's only the one
[04:00] <avalost> I had been running mdk since 8.0.. they really ticked me off and I haven't looked back
[04:01] <TotalNewb> I'll have groups for you in just a moment. Had baby issues.
[04:01] <TotalNewb> groups
[04:01] <trappist> avalost: they're ok, but I decided I like debian, and now I've fallen in love with ubuntu, and I'll probably stay here a while.
[04:01] <avalost> 10.* and LE really turned me off
[04:01] <TotalNewb> also usin the right keyboar helps.
[04:01] <sakura> somebody help me, i'm trying to configure x session manager
[04:01] <sakura> how to do it?
[04:01] <avalost> yeah, ubuntu is pretty slick albeit completely different..
[04:02] <TotalNewb> It replied monti, which is the user name first set up by the guy who did the install.
[04:02] <Scarborough> how can I get mozilla-composer?
[04:03] <brenner> avalost: completely different to debian?  i'm contemplating trying it out (ub was my 1st deb-based distro.
[04:03] <p0windah> Scarborough: no idea, but you might want to try Nvu
[04:03] <Scarborough> p0windah: whats Nvu?
[04:03] <avalost> brenner, no to mandrake..
[04:03] <sakura> i have a problem in session manager, how to fix it?
[04:03] <jhaig> I cannot print from Firefox - it complains that the paper size (iso-a4) is not supported by the printer (but it is).  The printer is on another machine running Debian Sarge, and other machines on the network with Debian don't have this problem, only this one with Ubuntu.  Any idea what may be wrong?
[04:03] <NabZ> hey, whats the diff between ubuntu and Kubuntu
[04:03] <monzie> mozilla-composer  comes with mozilla Scarborough
[04:04] <jhaig> NabZ: The default desktop for Kubuntu is KDE.
[04:04] <sakura> NabZ kubuntu have KDE instead of gnome
[04:04] <Scarborough> monzie what do you mean?
[04:04] <p0windah> Scarborough: html/css editor
[04:04] <avalost> brenner, debian is similar, just not as easy to set up and packages seemed less up to date for stable releases
[04:04] <TotalNewb> NabZ, Kubuntu was designed to run well with KDE I think.
[04:04] <ppo2> hi, rkhunter is complaining about /dev/.initramfs-tools /dev/.udevdb and  /dev/.static is it normal ?
[04:04] <ifxx> hat einer von euch ubuntu mit dem x-win32 zum laufen bekommen?
[04:04] <Scarborough> p0windah: is it n00b-friendly?
[04:04] <sakura> but i preffer gnome, so i use ubuntu
[04:04] <Seveas> ppo2, rkhunter?
[04:04] <NabZ> on ubuntu can i change it to kde?
[04:04] <brenner> avalost: *nod* do you happen to know the default kernel image?
[04:04] <avalost> my frist debian install was a net install, a heap of work to get everything running as I like it
[04:04] <Seveas> ifxx  #ubuntu-de
[04:04] <ppo2> Seveas: rootkit hunter
[04:05] <Seveas> ppo2, it's terribly overzealous
[04:05] <sakura> just instll kde from main section on your ubuntu distro repository
[04:05] <monzie> sudo apt-get install mozilla gives you mozilla composer
[04:05] <avalost> for debian?
[04:05] <Seveas> ppo2, those folders are completely normal
[04:05] <NabZ> ty sakura
[04:05] <bil> salut
[04:05] <monzie> NabZ, the command is "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[04:05] <brenner> yep
[04:05] <NabZ> ty monzie :)
[04:05] <TotalNewb> So any one have any ideas what my 'group' thing means?
[04:05] <bil> salut
[04:05] <avalost> brenner, unsure: prolly linux-*-386, i'm guessing
[04:05] <monzie> you are welcom NabZ
[04:05] <sakura> Nabz, monzie, yes, because kubuntu-desktop is the wrapper packge of Kubuntu packages
[04:06] <ppo2> Seveas: ok, thanks, btw security patches will be installed after apt-get upgrade or do i need to put something else?
[04:06] <brenner> avalost: heh, i'm after the * bit in particular, but nvm.  i'll look it up
[04:06] <Seveas> ppo2, if you have the security repos enabled: yes
[04:06] <monzie> ppo2, you have to enable the security repos
[04:06] <NabZ> on kbuntu downloads, whats breezy and whats  dapper? lol
[04:06] <sakura> but if you don't want all the things on kubuntu-desktop, just uninstall them and don't worry about uninstalling kubuntu-desktop
[04:06] <Bader> hi
[04:06] <avalost> yeah, that's prolly best
[04:06] <Drac[Server] > Where is the Ubuntu logo image that is seen during the load before X starts located?
[04:06] <Bader> !wiki bcm43xx
[04:06] <ppo2> Seveas: how to check if i have ? :)
[04:06] <sakura> breeze is the name of current distro
[04:07] <Bader> !wiki broadcom
[04:07] <NabZ> ah and dapper is the old one?
[04:07] <sakura> dapper is the name of future distro planned to be released on april
[04:07] <NabZ> ah
[04:07] <NabZ> cool
[04:07] <monzie> !usplash
[04:07] <ubotu> hmm... usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:07] <Bader> !wiki dapper wiki
[04:07] <wassha> brenner: thanks
[04:07] <Bader> !wiki dapper wifi
[04:07] <NabZ> i tihnk ill get ubuntu and install kde onto it. :)
[04:07] <Seveas> ppo2, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 is the complete set
[04:07] <Seveas> Bader, stop.
[04:07] <zwu> since last dist-upgrade (dapper), my radeon 9600 card fglrx driver does not work now ~~~ anybody meet this problem?
[04:07] <sakura> hoary is the old onebut don't use dapper until become stable,
[04:07] <Bader> Seveas: I stopped.
[04:07] <sakura> dapper now is for testing purpose
[04:07] <Drac[Server] > NabZ, at this point, it is a bad, bad idea to try to run Dapper as a fully functional OS.
[04:07] <Bader> now I can ask my question :)
[04:08] <Bader> How can I enable bcm43xx on dapper ? (because ndiswrapper no longer works) (modprobe bcm43xx does nothing)
[04:08] <NabZ> its fine to install kde onto ubuntu 5.1 yeh?
[04:08] <TotalNewb> I try running users-admin and none of my passwords for root access work. Anyone know how to find out what the root password is?
[04:08] <ppo2> Seveas:ok, thanks
[04:08] <Seveas> !tell TotalNewb about root
[04:08] <Drac[Server] > TotalNewb, by default, it's random. To set one type sudo passwd.
[04:08] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , don't lie
[04:08] <dbernar1_> How come I have no space on my /home partition? I am looking at all the files, including the hidden ones, and there is nothing that could be holding up space.
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > Seveas, I'm not...
[04:09] <Seveas> yes you are
[04:09] <Seveas> the root password is not random
[04:09] <Seveas> it's locked
[04:09] <dbernar1_> random:)
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > It's locked by way of randomization.
[04:09] <MatyasZA> bye all
[04:09] <Seveas> no
[04:09] <Seveas> it's locked by way of locking
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > Well, how else could they "lock" it?
[04:09] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , man passwd
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > I don't know about locking root.
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > Oh.
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > Well... regardles, sudo passwd will do the trick
[04:10] <Seveas> no
[04:10] <Drac[Server] > Yes.
[04:10] <Seveas> just sudo
[04:10] <dbernar1_> So what's up with my disk space?
[04:10] <sakura> could anybody help me?
[04:10] <Drac[Server] > I do it all the time.
[04:10] <dbernar1_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[04:10] <dbernar1_> /dev/hda5             9,7G  8,4G  824M  92% /
[04:10] <dbernar1_> tmpfs                 237M  4,0K  237M   1% /dev/shm
[04:10] <dbernar1_> tmpfs                 237M   13M  225M   6% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile
[04:10] <dbernar1_> /dev/hda6             9,8G  9,7G   96M 100% /home
[04:10] <sakura> i need to reconfigure my x session manager settings
[04:10] <dbernar1_> /dev/hda9              93G   29G   61G  32% /mnt/l
[04:10] <Seveas> why? You don't need a root password on ubuntu
[04:10] <dbernar1_> sorry
[04:10] <TotalNewb> It asks me for a password, which I don't have, before it will let me use any sudo command including sudo passwd.
[04:10] <Drac[Server] > I like having full root functionality, rather than having to type sudo all the time. Leaving a terminal open that has had sudo validated once is just as bad as leaving a root terminal open.
[04:11] <Seveas> TotalNewb, sudo uses YOUR password, read the wikipage ubotu sent you
[04:11] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , set the sudo timeout to 0
[04:11] <TotalNewb> I only have two passwords ever used on the system and both fail.
[04:11] <sakura> because i want to be again able to run a new user logon screen, to swith between users, and able to run gtk+gnome graphic applications as a different user
[04:11] <TotalNewb> I am putting in my pass, it fails.
[04:11] <Drac[Server] > Seveas, sure, that's one option, but it's not the default. Also, if somebody gets your user password but not your root, root functions are still compromised.
[04:12] <sakura> TotelNewb, if sudo asked you for a password is asking for your users password
[04:12] <TotalNewb> I know, and I put it in, the one I log into my user with, it fails.
[04:12] <sakura> TotalNewb you must have administration privilegies
[04:13] <Seveas> TotalNewb, is the word admin in the output of the command id?
[04:13] <TotalNewb> id
[04:13] <sakura> go to system->Management (Administration)-> and users and groups
[04:13] <monzie> POLL: How many users would like an ubuntu - sister distro (aka Kubuntu) with E17 was default wm and aim = ultmate eye candy?
[04:13] <dbernar1_> In any case, Would you have some advice as to why my HD is full when there is nothing on it?
[04:13] <Seveas> monzie, don't...
[04:13] <sakura> somebody help me!!!
[04:13] <dbernar1_> not nopthing...
[04:13] <dbernar1_> Ah...
[04:13] <sakura> !gdmflexiserver
[04:13] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:13] <TotalNewb> Nope, uid=1000 gid=1000  groups=1000 (monti)
[04:14] <Seveas> dbernar1_, lol :D
[04:14] <raid> anyone know hot to enable wlan0 device manualy on Kubuntu?
[04:14] <Seveas> raid, ifup wlan0
[04:14] <dbernar1_> Seveas: cause I don't use gnome...
[04:14] <trappist> assuming wlan0 exists
[04:14] <sakura> Seveas i have and error in my gnome configuration, so this program send me errors
[04:14] <monzie> What Seveas ?
[04:14] <Seveas> TotalNewb, then you messed up yourself previously in the users and groups thing...
[04:14] <mikex> how do import email from evolution to thunderbird in ubuntu?
[04:14] <bliss> hello all
[04:14] <dbernar1_> Seveas: funny part is...I've been woprking on this for a while now kinda off-hand...
[04:14] <Seveas> hi bliss
[04:15] <sapo> hi all, anyone have a quick link to some howto or something about installing a serial mouse?
[04:15] <TotalNewb> So reinstall? My friend who owned the laptop tried to install it. Not I.
[04:15] <Seveas> !serial mouse
[04:15] <ubotu> methinks serial mouse is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto
[04:15] <sakura> his program uses some session management donfiguration
[04:15] <sakura> how to fix it?
[04:15] <Seveas> TotalNewb, reboot into recovery mode, and reset either the root password or the user password
[04:15] <dbernar1_> /dev/hda6             9,8G  788M  9,0G   8% /home
[04:15] <dbernar1_> Yay.
[04:15] <Seveas> and ask that friend of yours not te mess up again
[04:16] <raid> Seveas: I get Ignoring unknow interface wlan0=wlan0
[04:16] <TotalNewb> Never played with recovery mode. Then again I never broke my system :P
[04:16] <raid> Seveas: what does it mean?
[04:16] <Seveas> raid, man ifconfig, man iwnconfig, man 5 interfaces
[04:16] <dbernar1_> Im so happy, I just got rid of 9G of files.
[04:16] <trappist> raid: it means wlan0 doesn't exist yet
[04:16] <Seveas> that should get you started
[04:16] <dbernar1_> trash in fact. No wonder it was reaking here.
[04:16] <trappist> dbernar1_: that always feels good
[04:16] <sapo> thanx Seveas i m good at talking with bots you know :)
[04:17] <raid> trappist: the device is decteted thow
[04:17] <Seveas> raid, it means that even though wlan0 may exist; it is not yet in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:17] <Seveas> so ifup can't work with it
[04:17] <Seveas> raw ifconfig/iwconfig can
[04:17] <raid> ok :( i'll try that
[04:17] <trappist> one of these days I'm gonna identify some of the places files like to accumulate and fill up my hard drive and write a nice script to keep it to a manageable level.  browser cache, thumbnails, trash, tmp files, apt cache, etc.
[04:17] <wassha> hmm im slowly fallin in love with ubuntu :D
[04:18] <Drac[Server] > Anyway, where is the Ubuntu logo image that is seen during the load before X starts located?
[04:18] <TotalNewb> Okay, I'm in the command line. passwd solo <newpassword>?
[04:18] <dabaR> Drac[Server] : you mean the gdm login image?
[04:18] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , inside the binary code that makes up the login process...
[04:18] <Seveas> TotalNewb, just passwd solo
[04:18] <Drac[Server] > dabaR, No. The one that shows before... oh.... damn. :(
[04:18] <Seveas> !usplash
[04:18] <ubotu> I guess usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:19] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , --^
[04:19] <Drac[Server] > Seveas, I've heard from a few sources that it's an actual file somewhere...
[04:19] <bliss> hello all
[04:19] <dabaR> Drac[Server] : that one?
[04:19] <TotalNewb> Can you use + in a unix password?
[04:19] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , it's not a graphic, it's a .png converted to C code
[04:19] <Seveas> TotalNewb, yes
[04:19] <Drac[Server] > dabaR, No.
[04:19] <bliss>  looking for java  appletplugin for mozilla for chat to linksys.com the name OF the package I think is something like x-java-vm
[04:19] <monzie> yes Toadstool
[04:19] <Drac[Server] > Seveas, that's disappointing.
[04:19] <dabaR> Drac[Server] : not even the usplash? what then?
[04:19] <Seveas> !tell bliss about java
[04:20] <TotalNewb> Okay, done. Now how do I add myself to the sudo group?
[04:20] <Seveas> TotalNewb, adduser solo admin
[04:20] <dabaR> You people use usplash? hehe, I am soo warty
[04:20] <jetscreamer> those live chat thingys are like doubleplusungood in linux i've noticed... ymmv