[00:21] <sdhd-sascha> hey, if so, then - happy new year :-)
[00:27] <shibboleth> https://ubuntu.com/download/server
[00:28] <shibboleth> 18.04.3 did away with the old installer?
[00:28] <shibboleth> i should go with 18.04.2?
[00:32] <qman__> no, click the link for alternative installer
[02:57] <tomreyn> happy 2020!
[03:00] <tomreyn> yesterday, someone (non-paying) reported that they were unable to set up ubuntu advantage on 14.04 starting from http://ubuntu.com - they got stuck at the point where they had the "new UA" installed on their system but it failed connecting to the repository. with a timeout, whereas the user was able to browse https://esm.ubuntu.com/ (other than https://esm.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ ) fine.
[03:01] <tomreyn> so, in case anyone canonical-ly feels like reviewing this - it may be generally broken currently.
[03:02] <CodeMouse92> .ping
[03:03] <CodeMouse92> Can anyone help? My Ubuntu 16.04 server suddenly won't connect to the internet via ethernet. It WAS working, and then abruptly stopped doing so.
[03:03] <tomreyn> hmm, year 2020 bug?
[03:04] <tomreyn> anything on the logs?
[03:04] <CodeMouse92> Not really. But when it boots up, it takes something about 6 minutes waiting for the network card to wake up
[03:04] <CodeMouse92> It ain't midnight here yet tomreyn
[03:04] <CodeMouse92> `sudo lshw -class network` shows the network card has the logical name enp4s0, and says link=yes
[03:05] <tomreyn> i was only joking about "2020 bug" really
[03:05] <CodeMouse92> The router is even lighting up when the network cable is plugged in
[03:05] <CodeMouse92> kk
[03:05] <CodeMouse92>  /etc/network/interfaces has the enp4s0 IN it...
[03:06] <CodeMouse92> auto enp4s0 \n iface enp4s0 inet dhcp
[03:06] <tomreyn> and "ip link" and "ip addr" say?
[03:07] <CodeMouse92> ip link shows enp4s0 as the second device (after lo), and it says <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP>
[03:07] <CodeMouse92> state UP
[03:08] <CodeMouse92> ip addr shows it as well, and it has the same ipv6 after link/ether that ip link showed
[03:08] <tomreyn> that's the MAC
[03:09] <CodeMouse92> kk
[03:09] <tomreyn> are there no inet or inet6 lines for the interface on ip addr?
[03:09] <CodeMouse92> Also shows inet6 followed by another ipv6 addy
[03:09] <CodeMouse92> Sorry I can't pastebin, no net on the affected box :P
[03:10] <tomreyn> thats fine so far. did you expect it to have an ipv4 or ipv6 address?
[03:10] <tomreyn> and what does the ipv6 (inet6) address start with?
[03:11] <CodeMouse92> I'll check in just a sec, I'm grepping the system logs. I have an ungodly number of messages about this device, all from today...
[03:12] <CodeMouse92> kernal: [2644115.104543] IN=enp4s0 OUT= MAC:60:(redacted):00 SRC=104.(redacted):229 DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=45....
[03:12] <CodeMouse92> And then finally, this evening, I have DHCPDISCOVER on enp4s0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 18
[03:12] <CodeMouse92> And stuff along those lines
[03:13] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Okay, so the inet6 address starts with fe80::62a4...
[03:13] <tomreyn> those IN OUT lines are usually iptables policy violations.
[03:14] <tomreyn> fe80:... is like <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:14] <tomreyn> so you really have nbo ip address assigned via dhcp
[03:14] <CodeMouse92> Okay, uhm...how in the hayseed do I fix this?
[03:14] <CodeMouse92> It was weird, too, because it just aborted smack in the middle of the day, no warning
[03:14] <CodeMouse92> s/aborted/stopped working/
[03:15] <tomreyn> is this in a data center, or a home / office building?
[03:15] <CodeMouse92> Home
[03:16] <tomreyn> did you reboot the router, yet?
[03:16] <CodeMouse92> I have router access. Actually, using the same network connection :P
[03:16] <CodeMouse92> Yes
[03:16] <tomreyn> did you reboot the server, yet?
[03:16] <CodeMouse92> Twice
[03:16] <tomreyn> i'm assuming the router does dhcp, right?
[03:16] <CodeMouse92> It's supposed to
[03:17] <tomreyn> sudo dhclient enp4s0
[03:17] <CodeMouse92> It's thinking
[03:17] <tomreyn> add -d
[03:17] <tomreyn> ctrl-c and add -d
[03:17] <CodeMouse92> okay
[03:17] <CodeMouse92> Yeah, there's that DHCPDISCOVER on enp4s0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval (whatever)
[03:18] <CodeMouse92> Listening on LPF/enp4s0/60:a4:4c:5b:ac:91
[03:18] <CodeMouse92> Sending on LPF/enp4s0/60:a4:4c:5b:ac:91
[03:18] <CodeMouse92> Sending on Socket/fallback
[03:18] <CodeMouse92> And then those DHCPDISCOVER messages, over and over and over
[03:18] <tomreyn> run    tail -f /var/log/syslog     in a separate tty or temrinal window
[03:19] <CodeMouse92> Okay, it's spitting
[03:19] <CodeMouse92> "DHCPDISCOVER on..." message
[03:19] <CodeMouse92> And then...
[03:19] <tomreyn> do you see more of these IN=... OUT= ... messages there?
[03:19] <tomreyn> on the syslog tail, that is
[03:19] <CodeMouse92> UFW AUDIT IN= OUT=lo SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:20] <tomreyn> so dhclient failed, or is still trying?
[03:20] <CodeMouse92> Still trying
[03:21] <tomreyn> can you ctrl-c dhclient, disable ufw, try again?
[03:21] <CodeMouse92> Sure
[03:21] <tomreyn> before you restart dhclient press enter on the log tail a couple times
[03:21] <CodeMouse92> Well, it already spewed
[03:21] <tomreyn> just so you'll know where the new logs dhclient causes start
[03:22] <tomreyn> what is it spewing on syslog?
[03:22] <CodeMouse92> It will do one DHCPDISCOVER, and then a huge mess of IN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00....:08:00 SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DEST=<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:22] <CodeMouse92> Like, two dozen per
[03:22] <tomreyn> so ufw is still effective
[03:23] <CodeMouse92> I have fail2ban involved
[03:23] <CodeMouse92> Is that going to mess?
[03:23] <tomreyn> maybe
[03:23] <tomreyn> stop it, too
[03:23] <tomreyn> and check remaining rules with iptables -L
[03:24] <tomreyn> --flush if there are leftovers
[03:24] <CodeMouse92> I still have some DOCKER-... rules and some UFW-... rules
[03:25] <CodeMouse92> But they all say 0 references
[03:25] <tomreyn> is this a docker guest, or host?
[03:25] <CodeMouse92> Guest
[03:25] <CodeMouse92> Er
[03:25] <CodeMouse92> NO
[03:25] <CodeMouse92> DOcker host. I'm running docker within it.
[03:26] <CodeMouse92> I went ahead and did `systemctl stop docker` too
[03:26] <tomreyn> ok, so are the docker rules gone now?
[03:26] <CodeMouse92> No
[03:26] <CodeMouse92> Nor are the UFW rules
[03:26] <CodeMouse92> Weirdly
[03:27] <CodeMouse92> But...trying to dhcp again, fwiw, I don't get the in/out lines anymore
[03:27] <CodeMouse92> What's further, it just mumbled something about link up....but it's still doing DHCPDISCOVER
[03:27] <tomreyn> good. but still no ip address is assigned?
[03:27] <CodeMouse92> No, it's still milling about
[03:27] <tomreyn> and iptables -L is now empty?
[03:27] <CodeMouse92> It is now
[03:27] <CodeMouse92> *not
[03:27] <CodeMouse92> NOT
 --flush if there are leftovers
[03:28] <CodeMouse92> I already did. Three times
[03:28] <tomreyn> so whats left?
[03:28] <CodeMouse92> sudo iptables --flush
[03:28] <CodeMouse92> The same. DOCKER and ufw rules
[03:28] <CodeMouse92> 0 references
[03:30] <tomreyn> do you have ACCEPTs for dpt:domain and bootps for udp and tcp in INPUT?
[03:30] <CodeMouse92> How would I check?
[03:30] <tomreyn> iptables -L
[03:30] <CodeMouse92> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[03:30] <CodeMouse92> target        prot opt source        destination
[03:30] <CodeMouse92> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[03:30] <CodeMouse92> target        prot opt source        destination
[03:31] <CodeMouse92> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[03:31] <CodeMouse92> target        prot opt source        destination
[03:31] <CodeMouse92> And then...
[03:31] <CodeMouse92> Chain DOCKER (0 references)
[03:31] <CodeMouse92> target        prot opt source        destination
[03:31] <CodeMouse92> That identical format is repeated for...
[03:32] <CodeMouse92> DOCKER-ISOLATION-STAGE-1, DOCKER-ISOLATION-STAGE-2, DOCKER-USER
[03:32] <CodeMouse92> And over a dozen "ufw-..." rules
[03:32] <tomreyn> but 0 references for all of those, right?
[03:32] <CodeMouse92> Yes
[03:33] <tomreyn> hmm, do you have another NIC and ethernet wire? i'd try cross testing those next.
[03:34] <tomreyn> do you have other computers on the same network which can successfully get an iup address via dhcp now?
[03:34] <CodeMouse92> I'm on one of them ;)
[03:34] <CodeMouse92> I have another ethernet wire, but no other network card
[03:34] <tomreyn> and this computer you're IRC'ing from got its ip address assigned after the server lost connectivity?
[03:35] <CodeMouse92> Yes
[03:35] <CodeMouse92> BTW, the local network addresses are hardcoded. For example, this is always <IP_ADDRESS>, and the server is always <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:35] <tomreyn> does the router list connected devices, and devices it has handed ip addresses out to via dhcp?
[03:35] <CodeMouse92> It should
[03:35] <CodeMouse92> It's weird, it shows Ethernet 1 (where the server connects) as being up and connected
[03:37] <CodeMouse92> The router says Connected DHCP <IP_ADDRESS> for the whole network
[03:37] <tomreyn> are those ip addresses hard coded on the systems or do you mean that the router will always assign the same ip address via dhcp?
[03:37] <CodeMouse92> Yeah
[03:37] <tomreyn> "Connected DHCP <IP_ADDRESS>" would refer to the routers' WAN connection
[03:38] <CodeMouse92> Except it shows that specifically under Ethernet
[03:38] <tomreyn> so towards the internet
[03:38] <tomreyn> well, silly router, i guess
[03:39] <CodeMouse92> Okay, yeah, there's something spooky here
[03:39] <tomreyn> the ip address is of charter communications, which i assume will be your ISP
[03:39] <CodeMouse92> On a whim, I just fired up a different machine
[03:40] <CodeMouse92> One that is connected via ethernet, NOT via wifi like this machine
[03:40] <CodeMouse92> NO NET
[03:40] <CodeMouse92> Same issue
[03:41] <tomreyn> so i guess your routers' dhcp server is broken. if this device is serviced by your ISP, you could get support from them.
[03:41] <CodeMouse92> Crap.
[03:41] <CodeMouse92> Okay, well, at least it ain't UBuntu
[03:41] <tomreyn> i need to leave for now. good luck!
[03:41] <CodeMouse92> I've reenabled UFW and Docker
[03:41] <CodeMouse92> and Fail2ban
[03:41] <CodeMouse92> Thanks!
[03:42] <tomreyn> yw


[13:51] <nameit02> hello?
[13:51] <raju> nameit02,  Hi this is meeting area , for any help you can visit #ubuntu or ubuntuforums.org or askubuntu.com
[13:52] <nameit02> ok,thanks!
[20:49] <gotwig> hey there


[12:51] <Plug> Burgundavia: a knot release note question
[12:52] <Plug> "Top Men have been working on Compiz"
[12:52] <Plug> why capitalised?
[12:53] <crimsun> To which noun are you referring?
[12:53] <Plug> Men.
[12:53] <Plug> It might not be a bug, if Top Men is a group name, or something.
[12:54] <Plug> I ask because I believe a lot of compiz work is done by a woman.
[12:54] <crimsun> I don't know what semantic importance is attributed to it; it could very well simply be a mis-capitalisation.
[12:55] <crimsun> I doubt it's meant to exclude work by anyone
[02:06] <nixternal> in KDE Help Center, there is a "KDE on the Web"...I will be creating a version "Kubuntu on the Web", however I was thinking of just adding it to the "About Kubuntu" documentation
[02:08] <nixternal> heh, another thing i just noticed... the About Kubuntu documentation is way different then the "About Kubuntu" information in the Desktop Guide as well...maybe these should ==
[02:08] <nixternal> robotgeek: ping?
[02:47] <Madpilot> so, are mdke & I still the only people with deletion/rename privs on huc/c?
[07:52] <Burgundavia> Plug: Top Men is a joke
[07:52] <Burgundavia> crimsun: ^
[07:52] <nixternal> it was nice and quiet
[07:52] <Burgundavia> it was
[07:52] <nixternal> man..i just did 3 homework assignments
[07:52] <nixternal> i can't believe i stuck with it
[07:52] <crimsun> Burgundavia: 10-4.
[07:53] <Burgundavia> for the record, I didn't even now Quinn was a woman and it certainly was not an attempt to exclude her
[08:02] <Burgundavia> mdke: help.ubuntu.com is down
[09:52] <Plug> Burgundavia: fair enough
[09:52] <Plug> wasn't sure from context, was all :)
[09:53] <Burgundavia> no worries
[10:02] <ompaul> anyone got a big stick that can restart services the box is up but the wiki is missing :(
[10:03] <ompaul> Burgundavia, and why is it always on a Sunday morning ? :-
[10:03] <ompaul> :-
[10:03] <ompaul> arrrr
[10:03] <ompaul> :-
[10:03] <Burgundavia> ompaul: no idea, but I can start a gobby session on this machine for people to edit
[10:04] <ompaul> should we look for wiki2. and help2 for such instances?
[10:04] <Burgundavia> canonical just needs to solve the issue
[10:04] <Burgundavia> I understand they are looking to purchase some new equipment
[10:05] <ompaul> ahh, new bigger faster servers with go faster stripes down the side
[10:07] <Burgundavia> do you have gobby installed
[10:07] <Burgundavia> ?
[10:07] <Burgundavia>  	 <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:07] <Burgundavia> port 6522
[10:08] <ompaul> I don't but I can have
[10:08] <ompaul> nearly there
[10:12] <ompaul> Thats a cool program :)
[10:15] <Burgundavia> ompaul: what colour are you?
[10:15] <ompaul> some kind of brown/orange
[10:15] <ompaul> I have added nothing yet
[10:15] <Burgundavia> right, I see that
[10:15] <ompaul> looking at the UWN
[10:16] <ompaul> I have edgy accepted here
[10:16] <ompaul> as a mailing list
[10:16] <ompaul> I am trying to figure the fastest way to get data out of it and over into the edgy section
[10:17] <Burgundavia> ok, sounds good
[10:17] <Burgundavia> try and avoid straight lists
[10:18] <ompaul> well I am looking at what you have there
[10:18] <ompaul> and trying to work out how you got it :)
[10:18] <Burgundavia> gmail, copy and paste
[10:18] <Burgundavia> then edit
[10:19] <Burgundavia> please save teh document every few minutes
[10:20] <ompaul> (A) don't do, (B) grep > foo (C)clean & paste :)
[10:20] <Burgundavia> that works
[10:20] <ompaul> okay back in 20 minutes with a bucket of entries I hope
[10:20] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[10:21] <Burgundavia> ompaul: suggestion: take that list, choose the end user apps and then talk about those
[10:21] <Burgundavia> 2 or 3 as paragraphs (or a logical group)
[10:21] <Burgundavia> then the rest as lists
[10:22] <ompaul> okay
[10:22] <Burgundavia> see what I have done with the previous UWNs
[10:22] <Burgundavia> tell me why I care about this new cool thing
[10:23] <ompaul> at a guess it is a neat way of being multiplayer irc in a notepad :)
[10:23] <ompaul> now back to work
[10:24] <Burgundavia> you can do the cleanup in another document if you want
[10:24] <Burgundavia> create another document within the session
[10:25] <ompaul> reviewing what you have done here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter is hard when its down :)
[10:25] <ompaul> back soon
[10:26] <Burgundavia> yep, tell me about it
[10:41] <ompaul> Burgundavia, what is the last time that you committed anything from edgy to that doc?
[10:41] <Burgundavia> what do you mean? I have done nothing on the UWN on the wiki and nothing on edgy in gobby
[10:42] <Burgundavia> gobby is realtime, so you can see what I edit
[10:42] <ompaul> sorry, my question was badly phrased
[10:42] <ompaul> in last weeks UWN what was the last package comitted
[10:43] <ompaul> was it around midday utc yesterday or was it later or Friday
[10:43] <Burgundavia> oh, anything committed as of midnight UTC on Saturday
[10:43] <ompaul> okay
[10:43] <ompaul> thanks
[10:43] <ompaul> you just cut down my 49 k file a lot :)
[10:43] <ompaul> thats lines of text
[10:44] <Burgundavia> yep
[10:49] <ompaul> my computer is being hijacked for a few minutes
[10:50] <ompaul> back in as soon as I can be
[10:50] <ompaul> I'll close that session
[10:51] <mdke> Burgundavia: I can't do anything about that, I don't have access to that server
[10:51] <Burgundavia> you cannot get to my IP?
[10:52] <Burgundavia> can you ping it?
[10:52] <mdke> help.ubuntu.com. Yes I can ping it
[10:53] <Burgundavia> mdke: oh, are we talking help.u.c or the gobby session?
[10:53] <mdke> Burgundavia: help.u.c, I was just responding to your highlight
[10:54] <Burgundavia> right
[10:54] <Burgundavia> right. I was referring to my IP, for the gobby session
[10:55] <mdke> I'll file a ticket
[10:55] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[10:55] <mdke> I think there are 4 sysadmins now, so I bet someone is scheduled in for Sunday
[11:00] <Burgundavia> ompaul: I am crashing now, as it is 2am here
[11:00] <Burgundavia> edit all you like, machine will be up
[11:00] <ompaul> okay
[11:07] <Burgundavia> ompaul: remember to save frequently
[02:11] <joachim-n> does Ubuntu replace the default gnome 'Add to panel' dialog?
[02:12] <dsas> joachim-n: I don't know what the stock gnome one looks like, but a new dialogue was implemented for a breezy SoC project, I don't know if it went upstream.
[02:13] <joachim-n> is it the flat alphabetical list?
[02:13] <joachim-n> I thought that was the old one, and the categories new, but I have it in a 2.15 build
[02:13] <dsas> the ubuntu one is the one segmented into categories.
[02:13] <joachim-n> and the categories on my regular Dapper
[06:54] <bartkorn> hi
[06:55] <bartkorn> anyone from poland ?
[09:41] <Burgundavia> ompaul: ping
[09:41] <ompaul> Burgundavia, yeap
[09:41] <Burgundavia> ompaul: the edgy stuff you were working on got deleted somehow. Can you repaste it?
[09:41] <ompaul> I know I did it
[09:42] <ompaul> I said I would redo it in the morning :)
[09:42] <ompaul> regex is sort of my friend :)
[09:42] <Burgundavia> but I am kind of trying to release today
[09:42] <ompaul> ohh fizzlesticks
[09:42] <Burgundavia> I will happily take your stuff and massage it
[09:42] <ompaul> that was from midnight
[09:42] <ompaul> last night
[09:42] <Burgundavia> no worries
[09:43] <Burgundavia> don't worry, you will still get credit
[09:43] <ompaul> its okay
[09:43] <ompaul> what dates did you want in there?
[09:43] <ompaul> and I can do something in the next hour or so
[09:44] <Burgundavia> 27-2
[09:46] <ompaul> okay I am going to vist my local seller of fizzy diet drinks and then I will motor on this
[09:46] <ompaul> give me exactly one example of what you want done and I will save every 10 or so
[09:47] <ompaul> sorry about that, total misunderstanding after you said this morning after midnight UTC I took it as start last night
[09:47] <ompaul> :)
[09:48] <Burgundavia> right, no worries
[09:51] <Burgundavia> ompaul: do you know who did the upstart logo?
[09:51] <Burgundavia> was it you?
[09:55] <theCore> Burgundavia, yes me
[09:56] <theCore> Burgundavia, I did the logo
[09:56] <Burgundavia> theCore: thanks, name added
[09:56] <theCore> where?
[09:57] <Burgundavia> UWN 12
[09:58] <theCore> oh, I read it this morning
[09:58] <Burgundavia> umm, 12?
[09:58] <Burgundavia> you cannot have
[09:58] <Burgundavia> it has not yet been released
[09:59] <theCore> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/535
[10:00] <Burgundavia> that is different
[10:00] <Burgundavia> UWN is ubuntu weekly news
[10:00] <theCore> yeah, I just saw that
[10:00] <theCore> where is it?
[10:00] <theCore> the mailing list?
[10:00] <Burgundavia> not yet released, but currently being gobby-ed
[10:01] <theCore> no, the UWN
[10:01] <Burgundavia> port 6522 on <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:01] <Burgundavia> UWN #12 is being worked on
[10:01] <Burgundavia> older versions can be read on ubuntu-news, the mailing list
[10:02] <theCore> first time, I heard about UWN ...
[10:03] <theCore> how do I read it? with a news reader?
[10:05] <theCore> nevermind, I found the wiki page
[10:05] <Burgundavia> read via email
[10:07] <Burgundavia> they can also be read on the wiki
[10:07] <Burgundavia> and the wiki pages have not had love for a while
[10:08] <theCore> Burgundavia, the ip address is for gobby?
[10:08] <Burgundavia>  <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:09] <theCore> I never heard about either, but it looks cool
[10:09] <theCore> about gobby*
[10:09] <Burgundavia> gobby is used for editing it, not the release
[10:13] <theCore> Burgundavia, you mispelled my name
[10:13] <theCore> :)
[10:18] <ompaul> Burgundavia, what is the keyword for new ..  * New upstream version ?
[10:18] <Burgundavia> usually
[10:25] <ompaul> Burgundavia, do you want to impose a pattern on the first block of text I have put in there so I can mimic it for the rest going forward
[10:26] <Burgundavia> if you have no information on it, I would just create a list of apps that have had new versions
[10:26] <Burgundavia> for ones you do, create a paragraph like previous UWNs
[10:27] <ompaul> okay


[17:49] <siva_machina> sudo apt purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[17:49] <siva_machina> z999 that should help you
[17:49]  * FrenchT is new
[17:50]  * siva_machina is sorta new to this irc channel
[17:50] <sammyg> why is my laptop not connecting to my wifi?
[17:50] <sammyg> wlan
[17:51] <siva_machina> sammyg: not sure I do know there is a bug related to wifi in 16.04
[17:51] <FrenchT> have you drivers installed ?
[17:51] <sammyg> do i need a driver?
[17:51] <k1l> sammyg: some wifi chips need special treatment because the manufacturers dont ship drivers for linux. so that depends on what exact hardware that is.
[17:51] <FrenchT> maybe
[17:51] <siva_machina> or it could just be your drivers
[17:51] <k1l> sammyg: "lspci" will tell you what exact wifi chip that is. please run "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" and shot the url here
[17:52] <sammyg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23106898/
[17:52] <sammyg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23106889/
[17:52] <sammyg> is this chip affected?
[17:53] <k1l> thta should work, iirc
[17:53] <siva_machina> z999: any luck so far?
[17:53] <sammyg> why is it not working then?
[17:54] <sammyg> i have no network cable and no network port
[17:54] <sammyg> i can't connect to internet without wifi
[17:54] <sammyg> not even to local network
[17:55] <sammyg> is iwlwifi the problem?
[17:55] <k1l> sammyg: no. to me it looks like it should work. doesnt it work with the network manager?
[17:56] <siva_machina> sammy: can you tether to the computer?
[17:56] <siva_machina> sammyg*
[17:56] <siva_machina> useing a phone and usb
[17:57] <heedly> Hi, how do I get all code points in unicode?
[17:57] <heedly> I installed unifont and moto but still see some missing
[17:57] <sammyg> k1l: by network manager you mean the gui thing where i can edit connection details?
[17:57] <k1l> sammyg: yes
[17:58] <sammyg> yeah, it works, i mean my wifi ap appears at the top in the status bar or whatever you call that
[17:59] <sammyg> but there is something odd about the network manager, it shows the password as blank
[17:59] <sammyg> even though i had typed it in previously
[17:59] <k1l> that is a security feature.
[18:01] <k1l> wait, in network-manager when editing the connection you should be able to clikc on "show password" for the security settings.
[18:01] <k1l> sammyg: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[18:02] <sammyg> so to sum it up, i can see "my-funny-wifi-ap" at the top of my screen, i can click it to connect, it asks for password or key, i type it in... and nothing... just sits there. then i click the wifi icon again, and i can see it in the list of wifi aps, and i don't have to click "more" to see it (since there are several wifi aps around here it makes it more accessible to me because i had entered
[18:02] <sammyg> the password once for this one), and if i click it i get a prompt for password again?... why? i did not select to prompt for password every time, i selected to save it for all users
[18:02] <sammyg> k1l: it's 16.04
[18:03] <k1l> sammyg: what desktop?
[18:03] <sammyg> desktop version yes
[18:03] <sammyg> oh you mean... yeah it's unity 7 i think
[18:03] <sammyg> the default
[18:04] <anonV> sup lizards
[18:04] <Rarrikins> anonV: Rarr!
[18:04] <anonV> lol
[18:04] <sammyg> k1l: ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:04] <k1l> sammyg: click on the wifi icon, then choose "edit connections". then change the details of that wifi ap to your needs there
[18:05] <anonV> network connections on launcher
[18:07] <danny_> Best way to synch and backup to dropbox?
[18:07] <danny_> rclone looks promising but it isn't in the repos
[18:07] <siva_machina> sammyg your desktop is called Unity
[18:08] <k1l> danny_: teh dropbox client for nuatilus?
[18:09] <tdiesel> Hello
[18:09] <tdiesel> Hello
[18:09] <danny_> k1l, I want to sync and backup, I think that client only supports syncing.  Plus it seems resource heavy
[18:10] <sammyg> k1l: it's working! :D thank you!
[18:10] <blackbird1> Hi
[18:11] <z999> siva_machina, how do i remove the old one?
[18:11] <blackbird1> Please someone tell me what's wrong with this regex (email validation): ^([[:alpha:]]+[[:alnum:]\-._]*)@[[:alnum:]\-._]+\.[[:alpha:]]{2,4}$
[18:11] <tdiesel> hi blackbird1
[18:11] <danny_> k1l, meaning, I want to have these files synced across my devices yes.  But I also want a backup so that if I delete it on one of my computers it isn't gone everywhere
[18:11] <blackbird1> hi tdiesel
[18:12] <sammyg> k1l: but what was the problem? so when i want to connect to wifi i have to go to edit connections dialog? i can't just click on it, let it prompt me for password, i type it in and it works? doens't work like that in ubuntu?
[18:12] <z999> siva_machina, i installed pepperflash but the old flash is still recognized
[18:12] <sammyg> this seems like a bug to me...
[18:13] <Rarrikins> z999: Did you exit Firefox and restart it?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> sammyg, it should if you have the correct wifi driver installed
[18:13] <tdiesel> bb
[18:13] <blackbird1> same regex works in C++n but not in bash !!!
[18:13] <blackbird1> C++*
[18:13] <z999> Rarrikins, yes even rebooted puter
[18:13] <k1l> sammyg: seems like something went wrong when you first entered the password.
[18:13] <k1l> blackbird1: #bash might help you on that
[18:14] <Rarrikins> z999: What version does https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ think you have?
[18:14] <tdiesel> hi
[18:14] <blackbird1> k1l thanks
[18:14] <BluesKaj> sammyg, what's your mobile intenet controller with lspci in the terminal
[18:15] <z999> 11.2
[18:15] <siva_machina> z999 did you run the command I gave you?
[18:15] <z999> yes
[18:15] <siva_machina> restart firefox
[18:15] <sammyg> k1l: then it goes wrong like that every time i enter the password in the prompt
[18:15] <z999> i did several times
[18:16] <sammyg> k1l: i can repeat this, and it will behave the same each time
[18:16] <k1l> sammyg: did you relogin?
[18:16] <siva_machina> sudo apt purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[18:16] <siva_machina> you ran that right?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> sammyg, or wirteless network adapter
[18:16] <k1l> sammyg: do you have autologin enabled for that user?
[18:17] <hitch> hi
[18:17] <hitch> hello guys
[18:17] <k1l> sammyg: did you make the wifi "be used by every user" in the wifi settings?
[18:17] <tdiesel> ehm,Ihave a tablet with android and my internet stops. What do i do????
[18:17] <hitch> can you help ?
[18:17] <sammyg> k1l: no, i rebooted... before i used edit connection dialog, i went in there and deleted all saved wifi connections, then rebooted, then came back in, clicked on my wifi ap, entered password in the prompt, it failed to connect, then i wen in edit connections dialog and entered the same password again there
[18:17] <tdiesel> what???
[18:17] <k1l> tdiesel: ask the #android guys?
[18:18] <sammyg> it seems like it takes the password when i enter it in the edit conenctions dialog, but doesn't take it from the prompt
[18:18] <sammyg> k1l: yes, stored for all users on the computer
[18:18] <blackbird1> k1l, tdiesel Where I can found new designs for Impress ?
[18:18] <matumbo> Does Ubuntu 16.04 implement systemd user sessions? e.g. Is systemctl --user supposed to work?
[18:19] <k1l> blackbird1: the internet should be full of themes for impress.
[18:19] <anonV> Es mesmo matumbo!
[18:19] <k1l> blackbird1: they are called templates: http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center
[18:19] <tdiesel> In your computer blackbird1
[18:20] <k1l> !ot | anonV tdiesel
[18:20] <tdiesel> bb guys
[18:20] <siva_machina> z999 you ran, sudo apt purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash right?
[18:21] <blackbird1> k1l, I looked there, there is no templates !
[18:21] <sammyg> k1l: i thank you for your help! but this looks like a bug to me, something to do with the gui and or unity, something along the line "ubuntu accepts wifi password entered in edit connection dialog but not in the password prompt for the same wifi ap"
[18:22] <z999> it tells me i need to update flash minimum is 11.8 to view xfinity
[18:22] <z999> yes siva
[18:22] <siva_machina> ffs
[18:23] <siva_machina> then run firefox -p in ther terminal
[18:23] <siva_machina> make another profile and see what happens
[18:24] <siva_machina> z999 then go to here in firefox about:addons and check your plugins
[18:24] <tdiesel> yes
[18:25] <tdiesel> hello
[18:25] <siva_machina> hello
[18:25] <tdiesel> how are you???
[18:25] <k1l> tdiesel: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. thanks
[18:26] <z999> shockwave 22 is there and also shockave 11.2
[18:26] <z999> when i disable one both disable and when i activate one both activate
[18:26] <BluesKaj> lighten up k1l , it was only 2 enties
[18:27] <jackson> I need some help.
[18:27] <k1l> BluesKaj: look at backlog :/
[18:27] <BluesKaj> jackson, just tell us your issue
[18:27] <Guest12760> Guest12760?
[18:27] <Guest12760> I mean really.
[18:27] <Guest12760> Anyway
[18:27] <Guest12760> I recently got an SD card, and I attempted to format it
[18:28] <Guest12760> During the process I removed the SD card because I thought it finished.
[18:28] <z999> when i disable one both disable and when i activate one both activate
[18:28] <Guest12760> ...Now it doesn't show up
[18:28] <tdiesel> ohh
[18:28] <z999> siva_machina, when i disable one both disable and when i activate one both activate
[18:29] <tdiesel> my SD card its not working
[18:29] <k1l> Guest12760: then format it again? with gparted?
[18:29] <Guest12760> Even when I do fdisk -l... it doesn't show SDB
[18:29] <Guest12760> I don't know how to format it again
[18:29] <Rarrikins> Guest12760: Try running `gnome-disks`, then insert it, select it on the left, click the gear icon in the middle, and do whatever.
[18:29] <k1l> Guest12760: can you show us "sudo parted -l" and "dmesg" after you put the sdcard in again?
[18:29] <Guest12760> Sure
[18:30] <elmoustacho> hello
[18:30] <tdiesel> hello
[18:30] <siva_machina> z999 run apt search flash and see if flashplugin-installer is installed and anyone that doesn't mention pepperflash
[18:31] <elmoustacho> I would like to know if "release upgrade" (instead of new fresh installation) is a reliable solution in enterprise ? thanks !
[18:31] <tdiesel> blackbird1
[18:31] <Guest12760> Oh, formatting with gnome-disks works
[18:31] <Guest12760> Nevermind
[18:31] <Guest12760> Thanks.
[18:31] <Rarrikins> Gnome Disks is very nice :)
[18:31] <Guest12760> But I find it somewhat offensive that all I am now is a Guest, with a number attached
[18:31] <Guest12760> Kinda makes me not human, eh?
[18:31] <Guest12760> Anyway
[18:31] <Guest12760> I'll go now
[18:32] <tdiesel> Anyway my SD card its working now
[18:32] <k1l> elmoustacho: why not. the upgrades do get automated testings and should work. ubuntu offers LTS to LTS upgrades.
[18:33] <matumbo> Sorry for asking this twice but seemed like it got lost in the flood. Does Ubuntu 16.04 implement systemd user sessions?
[18:33] <z999> siva_machina, several
[18:34] <siva_machina> take a screenshot please
[18:34] <siva_machina> if you need a place to upload it I suggest imgur
[18:34] <siva_machina> z999
[18:35] <siva_machina> or copy everything into pastebin
[18:35] <siva_machina> pastebin is a website
[18:35] <danny_> Is there an easy way to track how much power parts of my computer are using?
[18:36] <siva_machina> z999
[18:36] <k1l> danny_: powertop
[18:37] <Melandosis> Hello. Does anyone happen to know how to solve this problem? https://askubuntu.com/questions/794158/redshift-f-lux-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04-with-intel-hd-graphics
[18:38] <z999> siva_machina, http://pastebin.com/tYw6bysd
[18:38] <danny_> k1l, perfect, I'll need to learn how to read it but its an ideal solution, thank you
[18:40] <purope> Hi, How do I allow a user to use sudo without having to type sudo?
[18:40] <siva_machina> sudo apt purge adobe-flash
[18:41] <Rarrikins> purope: You don't. What are you trying to accomplish?
[18:41] <purope> what
[18:41] <purope> I want to be able to use a script that is meant to be used by root, but instead with a non-root user
[18:42] <siva_machina> z999 sudo apt purge adobe-flashplugin
[18:42] <tomreyn> purope: so why do you want to run it as non-root user instead?
[18:43] <Bashing-om> Melandosis: I run ATI grapics. and a kernel upgrade did break redshit. I ' sudo apt install --reinstall redshift ' to reconfigure .. and it works .
[18:43] <z999> z999@Cassandra:~$ sudo apt purge adobe-flash
[18:43] <z999> [sudo] password for z999:
[18:43] <z999> Reading package lists... Done
[18:43] <z999> Building dependency tree
[18:43] <z999> Reading state information... Done
[18:43] <z999> E: Unable to locate package adobe-flash
[18:43] <tomreyn> !paste | z999
[18:44] <siva_machina> z999 yeah I typoed
[18:44] <siva_machina> sudo apt purge adobe-flashplugin
[18:44] <siva_machina> I meant that
[18:45] <z999> siva did it
[18:45] <z999> siva_machina, will try again
[18:45] <siva_machina> you ran it without the plugin part
[18:45] <Melandosis> Bashing-om: Unfortunately that didn't fix it, but thanks for the help. It looks like it is indeed kernel related however. https://github.com/jonls/redshift/issues/357
[18:45] <Melandosis> I guess I will just have to wait patiently for a fix.
[18:46] <Rarrikins> purope: https://serverfault.com/questions/184072/how-can-i-allow-all-users-to-run-a-given-command-via-sudo
[18:46] <Bashing-om> Melandosis: reading .
[18:46] <Rarrikins> purope: You can make it where all users can use sudo to run a script without needing a password.
[18:46] <Rarrikins> purope: Though, if you can put it into a compilable language and compile it, you can use setuid root instead.
[18:47] <Melandosis> Bashing-om, f.lux has the same problem.
[18:48] <Bashing-om> Melandosis: What results starting redshift in terminal ' redshift -l 35.458608:92.032814 -t 6000:5000 -b 0.8:0.6 ' . Where this is my location .
[18:49] <Melandosis> Bashing-om: It doesn't seem to do a thing. The colors aren't changed.
[18:50] <z999> siva_machina, video taking long time to load
[18:51] <siva_machina> z999, is firefox still saying you have 11 installed/
[18:51] <siva_machina> ?*
[18:52] <z999> no siva_machina but video is not loading
[18:52] <Stuttergart> curious if anyone knows the current state of dpkg package distribution via tools like apt-p2p?
[18:52] <tomreyn> Melandosis: according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1617686/comments/47 this (?) issue is fixed by newer kernel versions
[18:52] <Stuttergart> I'm looking for a way to speed up infra deployments without having to deploy + manage large package depots in every environment.
[18:52] <siva_machina> z999, is firefox still saying you have 11 installed?
[18:53] <Snert_> will the latest ubuntu server install on an intel processor? The name seems to indicate and only.
[18:53] <Stuttergart> also, container-based pre-bake only gets you so far.
[18:53] <z999> siva_machina, no
[18:53] <Melandosis> tomreyn: Yes, it looks like it. I guess I'll have to wait for that version to arrive in Ubuntu.
[18:53] <Rarrikins> Snert_: Yes.
[18:53] <Bashing-om> Melandosis: :( .. Well. now above my skill level .
[18:53] <Rarrikins> Snert_: amd64 is for all x86-64 chips, despite the name.
[18:53] <Snert_> Rarrikins: thx. The name on it is amd64 so I was not sure.
[18:53] <Snert_> Ubuntu here I come!
[18:54] <Snert_> I love ubuntu
[18:54] <siva_machina> z999 then there is a high probablity xfinity is useing a stupid drm thing that prevent flash from loading without it. and I do not know how to get that to work with the newer flash
[18:54] <siva_machina> nor have I really ever cared enough to look into it
[18:54] <siva_machina> I do not use xfinity for cable
[18:54] <siva_machina> just internet
[18:55] <z999> siva ok thx anyway
[18:55] <Mersaul> Hello!
[18:55] <siva_machina> I have youtube and red...I mean Netflix for entertainment
[18:55] <siva_machina> z999 might want to try google chrome to see if you have better luck
[18:55] <Rarrikins> I hear Netflix is coming soon to Firefox.
[18:56] <z999> ok siva_machina
[18:57] <coolbrah33> Does anyone know a good installation guide for installing nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 14.04. I've tried adding the nvidia ppa but it breaks my OS every time
[18:58] <generic> coolbrah33 why not install the NVIDIA-drivers supplied from nvidia ?
[18:58] <ksft> coolbrah33: I'm having the same problem, I think
[18:59] <ksft> I upgraded to 16.04, and it didn't help
[18:59] <coolbrah33> I tried that, went on the website downloaded and installed them
[18:59] <generic> and ?
[18:59] <ksft> what exactly does it break?
[18:59] <coolbrah33> Didn't work
[18:59] <generic> installing or running ?
[18:59] <coolbrah33> Which is odd though because that's the way I did it originally
[18:59] <ksft> when I install the proprietary drivers, I can't log in the next time I start X
[18:59] <Melandosis> Bashing-om, tomreyn: Thanks for the help.
[19:00] <tomreyn> welcome :)
[19:00] <coolbrah33> I think it was both, it got these weird errors, il try it again though
[19:00] <generic> ksft: have you checked /var/log/Xorg.log ?
[19:00] <coolbrah33> Ksft do you get the log in loop?
[19:00] <ksft> generic: I've looked at it, but I don't know what I'm looking for.
[19:00] <ksft> coolbrah33: yes
[19:00] <coolbrah33> Have you looked up and tried the fixes?
[19:00] <generic> ksft: can you pastebin it ?
[19:00] <ksft> sure
[19:01] <ksft> er, actually, I probably can just give you a link from when I've done taht before
[19:01] <ksft> that*
[19:01] <coolbrah33> If you type in login loop Ubuntu in Google there should be a good guide on the first result
[19:01] <tomreyn> ksft: (E) is what you're looking for. and i don't mean pills.
[19:03] <ksft> eh, can't find it
[19:03] <ksft> I should go through what I did before to get the login loop thing before I look at the log, right?
[19:03] <ksft> coolbrah33: do you mean the permissions on the files in my home directory?
[19:03] <ksft> I've checked those
[19:04] <tomreyn> ksft sorry, actually "(EE)" , not just "(E)"
[19:09] <coolbrah33> ksft: ya that's what I meant
[19:09] <tomreyn> ksft: grep -hE '(Current Operating System|\(EE\))' /var/log/Xorg.* | uniq | grep -vF '(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.'
[19:10] <tomreyn> ...to check your past X server logs for errors
[19:10] <coolbrah33> generic: I downloaded the Graphics driver .run file, ran it with bash and I got error pre install failed, do you still want to continue?
[19:10] <coolbrah33> And I'm almost positive if I continue it will not work
[19:11] <generic> what does it say ?
[19:11] <ksft> tomreyn, generic: here's the output of that: http://termbin.com/mtud
[19:13] <coolbrah33> The error logs say nvidia-installer command line: ./nvidia-installer and than basically nothing
[19:17] <tomreyn> ksft: which hardware? lspci -knnv | fgrep VGA
[19:17] <ksft> it's a GTX 960M
[19:17] <tomreyn> oh i guess that would be supported ;)
[19:17] <ksft> that one only lists the Intel one
[19:17] <ksft> "Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller"
[19:18] <ksft> because I have an integrated one too, which I forgot to mention
[19:18] <tomreyn> well most people have nowadays
[19:21] <tomreyn> ksft: is this >0 ? fgrep nomodeset /boot/grub/grub.cfg | fgrep -cv recovery
[19:21] <ksft> tomreyn: says 5
[19:22] <souravbadami> I'm not seeing the splash screen with ubuntu logo while booting. 16.04.1
[19:22] <tomreyn> ksft: so you use nomodeset as a default kernel option, whichmay or may not be okay, i'm not actually sure. but it's worth trying without.
[19:22] <generic> ksft: lot's of errors.. one of them says it's unable to find the nvidia-driver
[19:23] <tomreyn> in the past i think you needed to disable kernel mode setting to make the proprietary drivers work. but i think nowadays that's no longer so.
[19:23] <tomreyn> (and may actually be vice versa)
[19:23] <generic> how do i stop the xdm in ubuntu ?
[19:24] <ksft> generic: I think that's because I got rid of it because I couldn't log in with it installed
[19:24] <ksft> tomreyn: how do I turn that off?
[19:25] <varaindemian> do I need to add sudo add-apt-repository ppa:openjdk-r/ppa in order to install opnejdk 8?
[19:26] <varaindemian> more precisely I am refering to openjdk-8-jdk package
[19:27] <Bray90820> I am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 an intel Atom Z3735F i can load grub but then when i click try ubuntu without installing i get a black screen
[19:27] <Bray90820> I already tried nomodeset
[19:28] <tomreyn> ksft: got any output here? grep -ri nomodeset /etc/grub.d/ | grep -Fv GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_RECOVERY
[19:29] <tomreyn> ksft: also have you tried to run nvidia-xconfig to (hopeffully) generate a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[19:30] <Karlangas> Hello!
[19:31] <tomreyn> hello, and hello again
[19:31] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Maybe : i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 <- works see:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks .
[19:32] <Karlangas> So, what is going on, today?
[19:32] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I am thinking it has to do with the kernel version
[19:33] <Bray90820> Because I was able to get a version of 14..04 booted
[19:33] <Karlangas> I am on kernel 4.4 and it fucked with Elementary OS repos. Wifi stopped working so, I went back to Ubuntu GNOME
[19:35] <tomreyn> ksft: a somewhat more likely location you'll find nomodeset option (and where it can be removed for testing purposes) is /etc/default/grub
[19:35] <tomreyn> you'd need to run update-grub afterwards
[19:40] <Karlangas> Hello!
[19:40] <eodnhoj> Hello everyone.
[19:40] <thinky> hi there
[19:41] <mypainter> hi!
[19:41] <thinky> i dont know why my cpu is getting too hot
[19:41] <thinky> it was around 57-58 but today it jumps to 76-78c
[19:41] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Show us what we are wirking with ; - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - in a pastebin please .
[19:42] <thinky> how can i look for cpu usage and temp in ubuntu 16.04?
[19:43] <Bashing-om> thinky: Cleaned the box lately ?
[19:43] <eodnhoj> thinky: use top to monitor process.
[19:43] <thinky> what box Bashing-om ?
[19:44] <thinky> eodnhoj: what is top monitor process ?
[19:44] <ksft> tomreyn: no output from that first command
[19:44] <ksft> "nvidia-xconfig: command not found"
[19:45] <eodnhoj> thinky: it displays linux tasks. Type man top
[19:45] <Bashing-om> thinky: The box is your system enclosure . I must clean my nachine on a regular basis due to overheating issues .
[19:45] <thinky> u mean the fan?
[19:45] <thinky> fan is pretty new yet
[19:45] <thinky> i replaced it last week
[19:45] <thinky> 2 weeks ago lets say
[19:46] <thinky> eodnhoj: type man top in terminal?
[19:46] <Bashing-om> thinky: Yeah, and the air ducts, blow the dust off the graphic's card :)
[19:46] <eodnhoj> thinky: correct. "man top"
[19:48] <eodnhoj> thinky: Just use TSHOOT methodology. =)
[19:49] <thinky> ook eodnhoj i will check it later
[19:49] <eodnhoj> Does any one know of a channel that for analytics?
[19:49] <thinky> another thing is i upgraded kernet from <IP_ADDRESS>.36 to <IP_ADDRESS>.38 but it still shows old one when i check kernel version
[19:50] <eodnhoj> that's*
[19:50] <tertu|pocket> so i've been having some networking trouble
[19:51] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: All I can boot to is a grub console so will the code work there
[19:51] <tertu|pocket> i can manage to connect to my university's wireless network but that's about it, DNS lookup does not seem to work
[19:51] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[19:52] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: try ping -c4 <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:52] <tertu|pocket> doesn't work
[19:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Is linux-meta the replacement package for the linux package now?
[19:52] <eodnhoj> Its not a dns issue.
[19:52] <tertu|pocket> alright
[19:53] <eodnhoj> How are you on irc right now? Different pc?
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yeah .. I would substitute "quiet splash" in the boot line . will not hurt to try and see .
[19:53] <tertu|pocket> phone already connected to the same network
[19:53] <eodnhoj> ahh. well played. Are you getting and IP address?
[19:54] <tertu|pocket> i have an IP address and Dolphin's network: viewer is showing me ofher
[19:54] <tertu|pocket> machines which i know exist
[19:54] <Snert_> Which VNC is best - I have ubuntu, latest. I DO NOT want that little gray VNC box that looks weird. I'm after a full desktop upon login.
[19:55] <Snert_> so is that tightvnc - is there an ubunti package for that?
[19:55] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: So I should put "; - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'" in place of quit splash?
[19:55] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Wait, think I have my wires crossed .. i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 as the boot parameter to boot to GUI .
[19:56] <eodnhoj> open shell and do ifconfig, confirm ip address. After type route -n to get your gateway device.
[19:56] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: So I should put that code in place of quit splash?
[19:56] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: ping your gateway device.
[19:57] <tertu|pocket> huh
[19:57] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Try : i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 . ctl+x then to continue the boot process .
[19:57] <eodnhoj> tertu
[19:57] <eodnhoj> oops
[19:57] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: route -n
[19:57] <tertu|pocket> i cannot ping my gateway
[19:57] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: my grub has "quit splash ---" should I remove the dashes as well or not?
[19:57] <eodnhoj> do you have a static IP?
[19:58] <tertu|pocket> no
[19:59] <tertu|pocket> so would this be a symptom of misconfigured peap perhaps?
[19:59] <tertu|pocket> or would that just result in me not being able to connect at all
[19:59] <eodnhoj> tertu
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Well .. easier to work this from the grub boot menu . at the menu 'e' key for edit mode . arrow down to the linux boot line and make the edit .
[20:00] <eodnhoj> not sure where you are getting your IP address from. It would be either static or from a remote dhcp server
[20:00] <tertu|pocket> it should be dhcp i think
[20:01] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Yes I know that that's what I planned on doing but you said replace quit splash with that code I just don't know if I should remove the dashes after it as well
[20:01] <eodnhoj> Then you should be able to ping your gateway device. Unless the school is using something line MACSec
[20:01] <eodnhoj> like*
[20:01] <eodnhoj> But you wouldn't get an IP in that case.
[20:02] <alphazulu_> anyone have luck using the libpdf plugin in FF?  after I install and activate/allow it, all it shows are blank pages with the text "Hello"
[20:02] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[20:02] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: is there a name server defined?
[20:02] <tertu|pocket> localhost
[20:03] <tertu|pocket> rather the loopback address
[20:03] <eodnhoj> so dns will not work.
[20:03] <tertu|pocket> there's a search entry but i don't know what that means exactly
[20:03] <eodnhoj> try resetting the interface
[20:03] <eodnhoj> sudo
[20:05] <tertu|pocket> will ip link set down/up work or do i need to do more
[20:05] <eodnhoj> running ubuntu?
[20:05] <tertu|pocket> yeah
[20:06] <tertu|pocket> i was running arch previously, had very similar problems but worse
[20:06] <tertu|pocket> i think i got a working network connection about once
[20:07] <eodnhoj> sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[20:07] <souravbadami> I'm not seeing the splash screen with ubuntu logo while booting. 16.04.1
[20:07] <souravbadami> It's purple and then the login screen appears.
[20:07] <eodnhoj> or which ever your interface is =/
[20:07] <SWAT> I've installed 16.04.1 and apparantly my ATI cards works fine (with radeon module), but the Intel card doesn't at all. The Intel card gives a black screen only, but exists (since my mouse can move there and it's visible in xrandr). Any advice?
[20:08] <tertu|pocket> uh, ifdown and ifup don't recognize my interface
[20:08] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: In the kernel boot line " linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-24-generic root=UUID=dbd69ed2-530c-4409-8f5a-a3f1ea41fc67 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff " there are no dashes .
[20:08] <genii> tertu|pocket: interfaces may be named exotic unique names now. Use the one it shows from the ifconfig command
[20:08] <tertu|pocket> yeah
[20:09] <eodnhoj> tertu
[20:09] <lee2> exit
[20:09] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: will be a wlan interface also
[20:09] <tertu|pocket> i am, it's called wlp2s0 and it doesn't seem to recognize it
[20:09] <eodnhoj> tertu|pocket: sudo ifdown wlp2s0?
[20:10] <tertu|pocket> the only interface in /etc/network/interfaces seems to be lo
[20:10] <eodnhoj> I wonder if a module issue =\
[20:11] <tertu|pocket> could be
[20:11] <tertu|pocket> this machine has an ath10k wireless chipset and my understanding is that support for it is relatively new
[20:12] <varaindemian> how do I find out what apps used the swap?
[20:13] <varaindemian> I have 40k used
[20:16] <tertu|pocket> thanks for your help, i'll keep looking into this.
[20:16] <DANtheBEASTman> what package provides column? it's not in coreutils i have that installed
[20:17] <trism> DANtheBEASTman: bsdmainutils
[20:18] <varaindemian> anyone?
[20:18] <DANtheBEASTman> trism: thanks!
[20:20] <th0r> varaindemian, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-which-process-is-using-swap/
[20:21] <hasselmm> is that low precision of the ubuntu geoip server intentional?
[20:22] <hasselmm> it only gives integers for latitude and longitude, which isn't very precise
[20:22] <Pici> hasselmm: geoip is not high precision to begin with.
[20:23] <sammyg> so i'm told that 1 pound sign in irc channel names means official channel, and 2 pound signs mean non official
[20:23] <ksft> sammyg: where did you get that information?
[20:23] <sammyg> since "#ubuntu" only has 1, then it's official?
[20:23] <Pici> sammyg: as I said, yes.
[20:23] <ksft> sammyg: This is an official channel, according to the topic, but as far as I know, that is not what that means.
[20:24] <Pici> Its a discussion for #freenode, not for #ubuntu.
[20:25] <hasselmm> Pici: sure, but usually one would expect city accuracy instead of something that's many 100 km off
[20:25] <sammyg> Pici: but what does that tell me? what does it mean to be official channel? how does it relate to freenode?
[20:26] <sammyg> Pici: is that like a verified page on facebook?
[20:26] <Pici> sammyg: you're on irc.freenode.net, they make the rules as to what official means.  #ubuntu itself is run by the Ubuntu IRC council, which was appointed by the Ubuntu Commuinity Council which was appointed by Mark Shuttleworth.
[20:27] <Pici> hasselmm: What exactly are you looking at to get that information. I wasn't actually aware that Ubuntu ran any geoip server.
[20:27] <skinnay> sammyg: Channels on freenode fall into one of two categories. Primary channels, which begin with a single # character, are reserved for on-topic projects. If you’d like to take over one of these channels, then you’ll need to be associated in some way with the project in question. Topical, or ‘about’ channels, begin with two # characters, and these are allocated on a first-come, first-served
[20:27] <skinnay> https://freenode.net/policies
[20:27] <trism> hasselmm: geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup isn't giving me integers for long/lat
[20:28] <Pici> hasselmm, trism: also they're likely using the maxmind databse, as thats what its output looks like normally.
[20:30] <hasselmm> Pici: looked at output of http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup
[20:30] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/IMAG0052.jpg
[20:30] <hasselmm> trims, pici: that's what i get from the ubuntu server: http://hastebin.com/unumarozah.xml
[20:31] <sammyg> skinnay: thank you!
[20:31] <Pici> hasselmm: must just be for your location then. I see non-integers for my IP
[20:32] <Bashing-om> hasselmm: Maybe better info : http://www.findlatitudeandlongitude.com/ ?
[20:32] <hasselmm> Pici: somehow i wonder if decimal point parsing fails somewhere under the hood
[20:32] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: look'n at your https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/IMAG0052.jpg .
[20:33] <hasselmm> like reading/importing a text file/database with german decimal point separator (comma, instead of dot)
[20:33] <Pici> hasselmm: I doubt it. I don't feel like pasting my location, but I'm getting 4 digits past the decimal point here.
[20:33] <Pici> hasselmm: its a database, it doesn't do a real-time lookup with your ISP.
[20:33] <hasselmm> Pici: sure, but that database must be feed somehow
[20:34] <hasselmm> Pici: honestly wouldn't be surpised if someone feed that database with a bad text file
[20:34] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: That looks to be the liveDVD, are you not trying to boot an installed system ?
[20:35] <hasselmm> just happens way too often
[20:35] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I can't boot the live USB to be able to install ubuntu
[20:35] <Pici> hasselmm: yes, like I said, it looks like the maxmind databse file. See the geoip-database package and https://www.maxmind.com/en/home
[20:37] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Booting the liveUSB is a horse of another color . Did yoy verify the copy ' check disk for defects ' at the boot options menu ? As a place to start .
[20:37] <hasselmm> pici: maxmind gives good numbers, it's just 10 km away from my real location
[20:37] <hasselmm> which is quite okay for geoip
[20:38] <Pici> hasselmm: they provide multiple databases, its possible that the one that Ubuntu is using doesn't have exact numbers for your IP.
[20:38] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Check disk for defects also gives me a black screen
[20:39] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Then we back up to verify the md5sum of the .iso file before going any further .
[20:40] <greengold> Can anyone help with an issue stemming from a screwed-up precise->trusty upgrade? The box is half-working and I don't want to do a reinstall unless absolutely necessary.
[20:40] <Bray90820> I have never actually varied an MD%5 so How would I go about doing that
[20:41] <Bray90820> *MD5
[20:42] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | Bray90820
[20:43] <zoli> hi. i have an AMD kaveri apu 7850k, but the the most recent ubunt lts (xenial) i have black sreen, and only can start system with nomodeset kernel option. But this way i dont have 3D acceleration. Can you tell me how could i start the system succcessfully without nomodeset?
[20:45] <saytek> bonjour
[20:47] <adrian_1908> hello. I wanted to install wine and noticed that i has tons of i386 dependencies (~734 MB total size). Is this necessary to support most programs, or is there a version without these that I may prefer?
[20:48] <k1l> adrian_1908: welcome to the wine world :)
[20:49] <adrian_1908> k1l: so that's the default and likely necessary I take it? :)
[20:49] <k1l> adrian_1908: yes. iirc there are 2 big players that depend on a lot of 32bit stuff: wine and steam.
[20:50] <k1l> which is no wonder if you compare the distribution of windows and linux with 64bit base OS.
[20:50] <adrian_1908> k1l: I see. I'll go ahead then and install the normal package. Thanks for the information.
[20:55] <remo> anyone here familiar with the tp-link T2UH
[20:57] <greengold> Looking for help to repair an interrupted precise->trusty upgrade. Login screen comes up OK; I can login to a GNOME desktop OK, but if I try to login to an Ubuntu desktop, I end up with a black screen and a movable mouse pointer.
[20:58] <murphy> i installed the Tp-link drivers and the light flashes but it doesnt seem to have installed it to show up in my wifi manager
[20:58] <murphy> i also tried https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs
[21:00] <jeffrey_f> Does anyone know of a prebuilt/turnkey Ubuntu (or other) PXE server distribution??
[21:05] <Bashing-om> greengold: Try ' sudo stop lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter ; sudo service lightdm start ' .
[21:06] <greengold> Bashing-om: Will do.
[21:07] <Bashing-om> greengold: This should set lightdm - rather than gdm - as the default .
[21:07] <anew> i cant find a 32bit download link for ubuntu?
[21:07] <k1l> anew: why 32bit? is your cpu a 32bit only one?
[21:07] <anew> all i see is the torent download... is there a internet download
[21:07] <anew> yes i need it for my cpu
[21:08] <k1l> are you sure its 32bit?
[21:08] <anew> yes
[21:08] <k1l> anew: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[21:09] <anew> i only see the torrent links there
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: How ya look'n ? Long time no hear .
[21:09] <anew> where is the html download
[21:09] <k1l> anew: click on the mirror for the nearest country
[21:09] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: no idea what I'm doing
[21:09] <greengold> Bashing-om: I selected "lightdm" as the default when reconfiguring lightdm. The same symptoms are persisting. I think the greeter is working OK -- it's something about trying to launch the desktop post-login.
[21:09] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I'm just walking around like a blind monkey at this point
[21:09] <anew> k1l, http://ubuntu.cica.es/releases/ but how do i knwo which one is 32 bit
[21:09] <k1l> anew: under "other images"
[21:10] <k1l> anew: click on the ubuntu release you want. then look at the naming of the .iso file
[21:10] <nani3> hello all
[21:11] <anew> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/14.04.5/release/
[21:11] <anew> nothing in here says 32
[21:11]  * k1l wonders why cica.es got still 15.04 on their servers...
[21:11] <nani3> is this a good place to get support for ubuntu?
[21:11] <nani3> or is this just a general chat type room?
[21:11] <sammyg> Where should the boot loader be installed on an EFI system with GPT disk? On /sda or on /sda1? What's the difference? The sda1 is the first partition and this is the EFI system partition. The system will be dual booting with Windows 10.
[21:11] <k1l> anew: that mirror doesnt have 32bit
[21:11] <anew> http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/14.04.5/
[21:11] <anew> does this one?
[21:12] <sankar> Hello
[21:12] <k1l> anew: yes. click on the i386 ido that you want
[21:13] <ad2f24c2> I've installed new HWE stack (pack of Xserver and kernel from 16.04) from 16.04 to my 14.04, and have no transparency in dash/launcher. How to fix that?
[21:15] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: We are here to help. where are you stuck ?
[21:15] <Bray90820> I have absolutely no idea where to even start with checking the MD5
[21:16] <sankar> Hey, can some one point me right article's to nderstand RSA keys. I am so confused
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: What is the present operating system you have access to ?
[21:16] <sankar> please and thanks
[21:17] <Bray90820> Windows 10 and OS X
[21:17] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I should note that this is the iso I used
[21:17] <Bray90820> http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com.au/2016/08/running-latest-ubuntu-on-intel-compute.html
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Windows' tutorial: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows .
[21:18] <ad2f24c2> why there is no transparency in dash/launcher?
[21:19] <k1l> ad2f24c2: what video card? what driver in use?
[21:19] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Where do I find the MD5 file tho
[21:19] <sezer> Hi!!!
[21:19] <ad2f24c2> all is _ok_ with driver and video card. if i am running 14.04 with 3.16 kernel and trusty xserver
[21:20] <sezer> anybody here? :)
[21:20] <ad2f24c2> but if i am running 4.4 kernel and xorg from 16.04 (this is called HWE stack in ubuntu), i have no transparency
[21:20] <ad2f24c2> opengl apps, though are running ok
 ad2f24c2: what video card? what driver in use?
[21:21] <ad2f24c2> it doesnt matter. radeon/radeon
[21:21] <ad2f24c2> driver is ok. problem is in HWE
[21:22] <JeanSprouts> Hi, I just paired some bluetooth headphones, but they skip/lag A LOT. Any suggestions? Ubuntu 16.04 w/ JBL Reflect Mini BT headphones
[21:22] <k1l> ad2f24c2: it does matter. since the issue with unity sounds like an issue with the 3d part of the video driver and in 3.16 with matching xorg and 4.4 kernel from 16.04 with the changed system from amd regarding radeon, fglrx and amd_gpu that is a very important part of information.
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: and, you are attempting to install onto a Intel Compute Stick ? where the image file is patched thus we will have to see what the author has for the verification .
[21:23] <k1l> ad2f24c2: but good luck with your issue.
[21:24] <Bray90820> Actually I am using it on a nextbook flexx but it has the same processor
[21:25] <FoeHammered> Can somebody recommend me a CD ripper to move my music collection from CD to digital? I don't seem to remember what I used to use, and what I've found isn't working well.
[21:29] <orangemeal> hello?
[21:29] <nani3> how do I troubleshoot xorg issues? Mine crashed last night
[21:29] <k1l> nani3: look at .xsession-errors in the users home or in xorg.log in /var/log/
[21:30] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Hummm ... " Also the ISOs only work on Intel Compute Sticks but they can be used with any model (STCK1A8LFC, STCK1A32WFC, STK1AW32SC, STK1A32SC, STK2M3W64CC, STK2M364CC and STK2MV64CC). " .
[21:31] <Bray90820> I'm thinking that event my tablet has the same processor that the ISO might not be compatible with my system
[21:31] <Bray90820> *eventhough
[21:32] <nani3> k1l: is this helpful? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23109150/
[21:32] <clifford_> I'm having a problem with 16.04 where Ubuntu is locking up for around 5 minutes after startup with tracker consuming 100% CPU. Been using since 12.04 and never came across this before. Recently split root to an ssd and changed CPU from i3 to amd
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Nothing wrong with trying . but we must verify this .iso file . No point if the foundation is not firm .
[21:33] <k1l> Bray90820: most times for that tablets/sticks you need special isos or a spcial treatment with changing stuff. so i suggest you look around if someone got ubuntu running on that device who got some more experience on that topic
[21:33] <FoeHammered> Never mind, I used to use Sound Juicer, that's right.
[21:33] <FoeHammered> Thanks, adios.
[21:33] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: So where should we go fro here
[21:33] <anelito> hi everyone
[21:33] <k1l> nani3: i dont see an error there
[21:34] <anelito> I need help with a special configuration for ubuntu 12.4
[21:34] <anelito> I am following https://mightycomputers.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/recently-i-foun/ which aims at setting up multiple tor daemons with privoxy and a unique squid instance as a sort of multiplexer
[21:34] <nani3> k1l: here is what I have in there not sure which log it is https://paste.ubuntu.com/23109156/
[21:35] <anelito> however, any wget/traceroute says there's no connection. How to debug it?
[21:35] <anelito> thanks
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Not looking too good yet for your install: http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/ . Stoll looking for a means to check that download .
[21:36] <Bashing-om> still*
[21:38] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Do you think the official ISO would work better?
[21:38] <anelito> anyone?
[21:39] <Bray90820> My issue with the official iso tho is that my system runs UEFI and I haven't been able to boot the official ISO in UEFi mode
[21:39] <Bray90820> if I'm even saying that correctly
[21:39] <k1l> Bray90820: let me guess: 32bit uefi?
[21:40] <Bray90820> k1l: Correct
[21:40] <k1l> that is a known issue on windows tablets/sticks. you need to modify the iso to run that 32bit uefi.
[21:41] <Bray90820> k1l: any idea on how I would modify it?
[21:41] <k1l> look at the howtos for running linux on your device.
[21:42] <k1l> nani3: you need to find the one with the crash in it.
[21:42] <ad2f24c2> k1l=read the docs somewhere on the internets
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Got me .. the 'buntu installer fully supports UEFI .
[21:43] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Sorry what do you mean?
[21:44] <k1l> ad2f24c2: is this all what you want to contribute to this channel? tell supporters that you know everything and get sulky if one requests more informations? and afterwards make snarky comments?
[21:45] <k1l> Bray90820: is this the hardware? https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10
[21:47] <Bray90820> k1l: Yes It is
[21:47] <k1l> then try that howto
[21:49] <skypce> hey guys , https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8BXTOusl5b6RmtwUGtvOGkyYjg  the liquorix kernel 4.6 run with nvidia-370 drivers very good
[21:49] <skypce> i am testing it now in my machine
[21:49] <Bray90820> k1l: I might be totally not right here but could I also take a working version of 14.04 and modify 16.04 with some parts of the 14.04 iso?
[21:49] <skypce> a question
[21:50] <k1l> Bray90820: yes, that old and crappy 32bit uefi part is needed
[21:50] <skypce> do you know some way to run multi core wine stagging?
[21:51] <Bray90820> So now the next question is do you think I should start with the github tutorial or use the 14.04 to modify 16.04?
[21:51] <Bray90820> k1l:
[21:52] <aubergine> hi everyone, is there anyone experienced with tor and privoxy?
[21:53] <k1l> Bray90820: https://sturmflut.github.io/linux/ubuntu/2015/01/21/installing-ubuntu-15.04-on-baytrail-tablets/  see if that works on modifying the 16.04
[21:53] <k1l> aubergine: i would ask the tor guys directly.
[21:54] <aubergine> k1l because I need help setting up a kind of Tor transparent proxy on an Ubuntu VPS
[21:54] <aubergine> k1l should I ask on #tor then?
[21:55] <OerHeks> tor and proxy, isn't that a contradiction?
[21:55] <k1l> aubergine: i dont get if that is an tor issue or a "that works on every linux but on ubuntu" issue. but the tor guys might have more experience in setting up that software, and that special setup of that software
[21:57] <custservice> Trump
[21:57] <aubergine> k1l just for you to know, I am following this guide https://mightycomputers.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/recently-i-foun/ but I am stuck since any wget/curl is somehow blocked
[21:57] <orangemeal> Hello! I am trying to set up Ubuntu on my acer chromebook 14. I tried booting from a usb that has a ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso file on it via seabios -- but I think my machine doesn't have seabios. If I follow a guide I can provide the link to, I can install KDE beside chrome OS, but I can't seem to do it with Ubuntu. Can someone suggest how I can set it up through a method like this?: https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-i
[21:58] <aubergine> OerHeks why? Basically using privoxy and squid you can shrink possible tracking headers (like UserAgent) and, at the same time, avoid ads and malware
[21:58] <custservice> orangemeal: maybe you need 32bit
[21:59] <sammyg> orangemeal:  "Oops! Seems like this page doesn’t exist."
[21:59] <orangemeal> When I tried doing Ctrl + L after entering a few commands into the terminal, it beeped twice each time I did it.
[22:00] <orangemeal> https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-ubuntu-chromebook-crouton%20
[22:00] <orangemeal> that should exist
[22:01] <custservice> orangemeal: are you sure its 64bit you need?
[22:02] <orangemeal> Let me find out if this chromebook is 32 or 64. Does it seem like I would get those two beeps if I tried booting from an iso file that wasn't compatible?
[22:02] <custservice> orangemeal: most arm processors are 32bit
[22:03] <k1l> orangemeal: look what cpu it is. if its a x86 or arm one. they need different isos
[22:04] <custservice> k1l: yes chromebooks use various CPU tyoes
[22:04] <k1l> there are several different chromebooks with different cpus.
[22:04] <custservice> types
[22:04] <orangemeal> Intel Celeron N3160 / 1.6 GHz
[22:04] <orangemeal> is what mine is
[22:04] <sammyg> custservice: why did you just send private message and called me a dumb busterd?
[22:06] <orangemeal> This is a 64 bit machine!
[22:06] <orangemeal> So I must have the right iso...
[22:09] <tomreyn> http://acer--uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/27071/~/how-to-enable-or-disable-secure-boot
[22:10] <tomreyn> you might want to start with this
[22:10] <z3r0x_> Hey guys my tor web-browser doesn’t works.Do you now how I can fix it?
[22:11] <tomreyn> z3r0x_: not without more information. start by explaining what a "tor web browser" is, how you installed it, and what does not work or how you detect that it does not work as it should.
[22:12] <z3r0x_> Ok sry man
[22:13] <aubergine> hey guys, I have another question
[22:13] <z3r0x_> The part with the downloading and installing process doesn’t works
[22:14] <aubergine> is there a way to perform full disk encryption on a VM on the cloud?
[22:14] <YankDownUnder> z3r0x_: If you're downloading the package from Tor - the pre-built package, it's actually rather a simple process...what appears to be the problem?
[22:15] <z3r0x_> It doesn’t start the download process :(
[22:15] <tomreyn> aubergine: sure, you just enable it while installing. to decrypt it later, you will need 'remote console' , 'serial console', 'kvm' access or similar.
[22:15] <z3r0x_> I dont now why
[22:15] <k1l> z3r0x_: on the tor website? with what browser?
[22:15] <YankDownUnder> z3r0x_: What browser are you using to download the package?
[22:15] <Exterminador> guys, do you provide apache help? :X
[22:15] <zenguy> hmm some packages have been kept back ie: linux-generic
[22:15] <YankDownUnder> Exterminador: That would be #apache
[22:16] <zenguy> how do i install them
[22:16] <zenguy> ?
[22:16] <k1l> zenguy: "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[22:16] <zenguy> thanks k1l :)
[22:16] <aubergine> tomreyn I cannot as I am using a cloud provider that just allows me to log in SSH
[22:16] <Exterminador> YankDownUnder: i've supposed that.. but i've got redirected to httpd
[22:16] <Exterminador> :/
[22:16] <mjz19910> Sorry, it is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:16] <k1l> aubergine: that doesnt work on cloud storage
[22:16] <tomreyn> aubergine: find a different provider or offer then
[22:16] <k1l> mjz19910: ubuntu shipps the new apt command
[22:17] <z3r0x_> I have downloaded it trough the the software center
[22:17] <zenguy> i like apt
[22:17] <YankDownUnder> z3r0x_: Ok...and?
[22:18] <z3r0x_> And the instakking process doesn't works
[22:18] <z3r0x_> installing*
[22:18] <zenguy> so instead of sudo apt-get install foo i just type sudo apt install foo?
[22:18] <k1l> zenguy: yes
[22:18] <zenguy> ok dokie
[22:18] <YankDownUnder> z3r0x_: What exactly do you mean "the installing process doesn't work"? That's rather ambiguous...
[22:19] <OerHeks> z3r0x_, our factoid says to use the tor bundle from 3rd parties
[22:19] <OerHeks> !tor
[22:20] <z3r0x_> Ok thx i try this way
[22:20] <OerHeks> :-)
[22:21] <YankDownUnder> ...must be a full moon...
[22:22] <SerialDev> is there any way to NOT use systemd and instead use sysvinit?
[22:22] <SerialDev> just a general question there
[22:22] <k1l> SerialDev: plain sysvinit? i doubt it. there was a upstart boot mode. but i dont know if that is still there.
[22:23] <SerialDev> so systemd just took over almost the whole linux scene without even a decent review, wow (i know this issue was over two years ago, but...)
[22:23] <k1l> SerialDev: yes. you are quite late to that party :)
[22:24] <SerialDev> yeah, there was a civil war over almost, i was just reading about it half the day today
[22:24] <SerialDev> *civil war over it
[22:25] <SerialDev> split the Debian community right down the middle from what i hear
[22:25] <k1l> SerialDev: yes. but we focus on tehcnical support in here. for the gossip we have #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:28] <Bray90820> What's the default kernel on 16.04.1
[22:28] <k1l> Bray90820: 4.4 kernel
[22:29] <OerHeks> !info linux generic
[22:29] <ad2f24c2> where i can talk with nux/unity developers
[22:29] <OerHeks> !info linux-generic
[22:30] <OerHeks> ad2f24c2, normally via mailinglists, not many dev hang out in IRC
[22:30] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/unity
[22:34] <screename> hey, is the WUBI installer outdated now?
[22:34] <screename> I cant get it to work. HTTP 404 error
[22:34] <k1l> screename: yes, wubi is deprecated
[22:34] <screename> darn
[22:34] <OerHeks> screename, yes, its ugly and newer windows does not support it
[22:35] <screename> im on 7
[22:35] <screename> I cant install via usb or CD!
[22:35] <screename> it hangs at boot CD:
[22:35] <screename> for kali ubuntu fedora and debian
[22:35] <k1l> screename: make a real install or use a vm
[22:35] <bilb_ono> is this how you are supposed to make a bootable device? https://bpaste.net/show/7e582c0cdad8
[22:35] <bilb_ono> or is that supposed to be the output
[22:35] <bilb_ono> it says "No bootable devices found"
[22:36] <bilb_ono> but im not sure if the dd statement worked
[22:36] <screename> bilb_ono, i think you should use the whole dir
[22:36] <k1l> bilb_ono: if dev/disk2 is the usb drive, yes
[22:36] <bilb_ono> screename: you mean on the if part?
[22:36] <screename> /home/user/downloads/ubunt.img
[22:36] <screename> I *think*
[22:36] <OerHeks> it completed, looks good
[22:36] <screename> bilb_ono, yea
[22:36] <k1l> screename: on modern OS that is not needed.
[22:37] <k1l> bilb_ono: booting that usb on a mac?
[22:37] <bilb_ono> ok i can try that. Though I feel like it would error out if it didn't find the iso
[22:37] <screename> gotcha
[22:37] <bilb_ono> k1l: yeah
[22:37] <bilb_ono> oh no not a mac actually
[22:37] <k1l> bilb_ono: and why the 12.04 one and not a recent one?
[22:37] <screename> bilb_ono, right it probably would
[22:37] <bilb_ono> on a dell computer
[22:37] <bilb_ono> k1l: I want to run software that only works on 12.04
[22:38] <bilb_ono> hmm so what else could it be. Is there another way to inspect the usb device for whether its "bootable"?
[22:38] <k1l> run a md5sum check on that usb and compare it
[22:38] <k1l> !md5sum | bilb_ono
[22:39] <screename> DD is dangerious
[22:39] <screename> why not use YUMI or unetbootin
[22:39] <bilb_ono> never heard of those
[22:39] <k1l> screename: that both make changes to the usb which can result in not be able to boot.
[22:39] <OerHeks> .. his command performed good, please don't spread doubt :-D
[22:40] <OerHeks> his machine is probably UEFI with fastboot
[22:40] <screename> k1l, i know, it usually works tho
[22:40] <screename> https://unetbootin.github.io/
[22:40] <bilb_ono> OerHeks: should I make it legacy instead?
[22:41] <screename> pendrivelinux.com
[22:41] <screename> enable legacy in your bios yea
[22:41] <OerHeks> !uefi
[22:41] <k1l> screename: not with different syslinux versions between those programs and the iso. hence dd is the most compatible way.
[22:41] <bilb_ono> screename: and then check all of the boxes?
[22:41] <OerHeks> bilb_ono, see the wiki
[22:41] <screename> bilb_ono, for what
[22:42] <bilb_ono> screename: on the bios for legacy boot
[22:42] <screename> yesw
[22:42] <orangemeal> If I set up kde on my chromebook, is it possible to then have ubuntu installed over it? Or instead of it?
[22:42] <screename> make sure legacy is enabled one sec ill find a pic
[22:42] <ajikny> hey, all
[22:42] <k1l> orangemeal: you can install seceral desktops and choose on the login screen what to use
[22:42] <screename> https://wpcf.neosmart.net/sites/5/2014/05/AMI-UEFI-BIOS.png
[22:42] <screename> I dont think trusty has uefi
[22:43] <screename> trusty is 12 i think
[22:43] <screename> way off
[22:43] <k1l> precise is 12.04
[22:44] <screename> yea i was a little off lol
[22:44] <watwat34> when the 16.04 bug where wifi is detected as ethernet fix?
[22:44] <OerHeks> 6 months support, the claim software only works on 12.04 is hard to believe
[22:44] <ajikny> I have a weird problem, while updating ubuntu server 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS. Before update the usb keyboard and network on server was working. after the update the network borke and keyboard became unresponsive.
[22:44] <screename> for some reason i feel like if dd is used it makes the pendrive read only. is that right?
[22:45] <ajikny> how o i proceed with any debuging?
[22:45] <bilb_ono> ok so I did the md5sum and it came back with 48b4edf237c489eebbfef208c2650d11  ubuntu-12.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso. this looks right?
[22:45] <OerHeks> screename, no, dd does not do that, the ubuntu iso itself is readonly
[22:45] <orangemeal> k1l, would you mind if I message you with a question about enabling one over the other?
[22:46] <k1l> orangemeal: just ask here
[22:46] <orangemeal> Sure. So using this guide
[22:46] <orangemeal> https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-ubuntu-chromebook-crouton%20
[22:46] <k1l> orangemeal: ubuntu-desktop will install the unity desktop and programs on a kubuntu install
[22:47] <screename> bilb_ono, try setting bios to legacy, thats probably the issue
[22:47] <tomreyn> ajikny: review logs, especially dmesg + syslog. re-plug the keyboard , re-connect the network cable, while looking at a tail -f on the logs.
[22:47] <screename> I doubt ubuntu 12.04 has uefi support
[22:47] <orangemeal> I'm using crouton to set up a linux system. It walks me though setting up kde. Is there something I need to do instead to get to an ubuntu setup like this? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Ubuntu_Desktop_12.10.png
[22:47] <screename> wrong again, google says 12.04 was the first to introduce uefi
[22:47] <orangemeal> Or is it just a step that follows after?
[22:48] <k1l> bilb_ono: 48b4edf237c489eebbfef208c2650d11 is the ubuntu-12.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso so that dd command was correct. as we said before
[22:48] <ajikny> @tomreyn I did reconnect the kb and the nw cable.
[22:48] <ajikny> How can i access logs without kb
[22:48] <ajikny> ??
[22:48] <sebas_> hola
[22:48] <sebas_> hello
[22:49] <sebas_> hello
[22:49] <tomreyn> ajikny: not, you do the tail -f /var/log/syslog, then re-plug the keyboard, then ctrl-c
[22:49] <screename> sebas_, ay
[22:49] <tomreyn> ajikny:oh wait you mean you have no means to provide any input to the system currently?
[22:49] <sebas_> hello
[22:50] <ajikny> yesss
[22:50] <sebas_> i'm just trying this
[22:50] <ajikny> cannt ssh into it
[22:50] <k1l> orangemeal: read more properly. "(If you don’t want KDE, then you can replace kde with xfce, or unity )"
[22:50] <ajikny> cant type into it
[22:50] <tomreyn> ajikny: oh okay, and no serial either?
[22:50] <screename> So is there a WUBI alternative?
[22:50] <k1l> orangemeal: the ubuntu desktop is called unity
[22:50] <sebas_> i'm new here in ubuntu mate
[22:50] <ajikny> there is no ps2 hardware
[22:50] <k1l> screename: no. make a real install or use a proper vm
[22:50] <orangemeal> aaahh
[22:50] <screename> k1l, I cant
[22:50] <orangemeal> I didn't realize unity was what I was looking for then
[22:51] <screename> I have made about 7 usbs with linux os, and 4 different cds
[22:51] <k1l> screename: you can.
[22:51] <tomreyn> ajikny: i meant a serial console. but you probably do not then.
[22:51] <screename> VM is out of the question with 4gb of ram and a dual core proccessor from 2004
[22:51] <screename> no virtualization at all
[22:51] <ajikny> funnything is. keyboard works till grub menu. As soon as the kernel is loaded the kb goes off.
[22:51] <screename> unplug it and plug it back in
[22:51] <tomreyn> ajikny: so i guess you press the power button and hope for it to come up fine again? since you can't make any input anyways
[22:51] <OerHeks> screename, lolx, then install, with such demands
[22:52] <screename> OerHeks, im trying to install
[22:52] <ajikny> yepp
[22:52] <screename> this system hangs at boot CD: from anything but windows usbs and CDS
[22:52] <ajikny> i booted into liveboot ubuntu 14.04 . there kb worked
[22:52] <screename> never seen anything like this piece of shit
[22:52] <tomreyn> ajikny: did network work there, too?
[22:52] <ajikny> and network too.
[22:53] <screename> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=678&MenuID=16&LanID=0
[22:53] <OerHeks> screename, please watch your language
[22:53] <screename> Sorry
[22:53] <screename> will do
[22:53] <erasmus> holy fucking shit Gene Wilder died =(
[22:53] <screename> yea he did
[22:53] <erasmus> so sad
[22:54] <tomreyn> ajikny: so since you can boot into the live cd and the keyboard works there, you can use it to mount your on-disk root or var file system and inspect the logs.
[22:54] <screename> ^
[22:55] <screename> woah
[22:55] <sankar> hi
[22:55] <screename> hi
[22:55] <sankar> How r u
[22:55] <screename> Good, and you?
[22:55] <sankar> goo, thnx
[22:56] <ajikny> okay, i will get back with the logs
[22:56] <ajikny> any other information i need to get??
[22:56] <screename> I wish i had a log so i could show you guys why any linux drives refuse to boot from this PC
[22:56] <screename> It litterally just sits at Boot CD:
[22:56] <screename> or ACPI something
[22:57] <tomreyn> ajikny: syslog should be sufficient. maybe also dmesg and messages
[22:57] <k1l> screename: try a ubuntu iso and see what the exact error is. that general "is not working" is very hard to support.
[22:57] <ajikny> i would need to be logged on for dmesg... is that correct ???
[22:58] <screename> If I make an UBUNTU ISO it sits at Boot CD:
[22:58] <edenist> hi there!
[22:58] <screename> it loads up shows some IRQs, sits at irq9 ACPI for about 1-2 mins and then goes to Boot CD:
[22:58] <k1l> screename: dd the iso onto the usb. then try again
[22:58] <screename> Damnit
[22:58] <edenist> was wondering if anyone has done the latest HWE update on 14.04?
[22:59] <bilb_ono> lol
[22:59] <ajikny> tomreyn: is there any other way to run dmesg?
[22:59] <screename> Is there a DD software for windows lol
[22:59] <k1l> edenist: what is the issue?
[22:59] <screename> to google!
[22:59] <yeats> edenist: I have
[22:59] <edenist> yeats, did it go smoothly? It's a pretty big jump, in both kernel and graphics stack [I'm running amd]
[23:00] <bumblefuzz> is there any reason that Weather Report 1.12.1 in my menu bar, won't update?
[23:00] <edenist> in particular, I'm going fro kernel 3.16 to 4.4, and I'm currently running zfs with the dkms module. As 4.4 has native nfs support, will this cause any issues?
[23:00] <bumblefuzz> I've waited several days and on tried on different networks but it just doesn't update
[23:01] <screename> can someone give me the dd command so i dont destroy my usb
[23:01] <ajikny> hi, all, i need some help.. After live booting in a system. Can i install packages on the harddisk???
[23:01] <screename> you could
[23:01] <Dreemurr> sudo dd if=(your image) of=/dev/sdX
[23:01] <screename> but they are not persistant
[23:02] <screename> Dreemurr, on windows
[23:02] <Dreemurr> (x is your drive)
[23:02] <screename> of=C:\*?
[23:02] <ajikny> any way to make them persistant?
[23:02] <k1l> ajikny: you need to chroot to that installed system first
[23:02] <tomreyn> ajikny: xou don't need to run dmesg, just get the logs.
[23:02] <ajikny> tomreyn: ok
[23:02] <k1l> screename: so you only have windows? then try "rufus"
[23:02] <screename> Rufus also fails
[23:03] <ajikny> k1l: i bound the /dev, /sys/ /proc and chrooted the hard disk
[23:03] <screename> The only system i have avilable is a windows one yea
[23:03] <screename> POS
[23:04] <ajikny> k1l: is this the courrect way??
[23:04] <screename> Ill try rufus again because it has that mbr feature ill update
[23:04] <screename> ill write down anythnig that pops up and be back.
[23:04] <Dreemurr> do you have administer access
[23:04] <screename> Dreemurr, me? yep
[23:04] <Dreemurr> hmmm
[23:05] <Polarcraft_> What would caused Postfix to not save to the Maildir?
[23:05] <k1l> ajikny: "for dir in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount --bind $dir /mnt/$dir; done "
[23:05] <Dreemurr> if rufus isn't working then i dont know what to tell you. have you tried to use dd instead of iso mode or vice versa
[23:05] <k1l> ajikny: after that you need for internet: "sudo mount -o bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf"
[23:06] <tomreyn> Polarcraft_: lack of permissions, a read-only mounted file system.
[23:06] <Polarcraft_> tomreyn, what should the directory be set as?
[23:07] <tomreyn> Polarcraft_: one which postfix can write to.
[23:07] <Polarcraft_> What directory would that be? The email isn't being delivered to the users directory of 'Maildir'.
[23:07] <ajikny> tomreyn: thanks will be back with more info tommoro. Unfortunately I cannot access the server now.
[23:08] <ajikny> k1l: Thanks
[23:09] <tomreyn> Polarcraft_: what is home_mailbox set to?
[23:09] <Polarcraft_> Maildir/
[23:09] <tomreyn> fine
[23:10] <Polarcraft_> tomreyn, sorry?
[23:11] <Bashing-om> screename: Acer ?
[23:11] <tomreyn> Polarcraft_: that's correct if you want to store the mail in the users' home directory + Maildir/ which i assume is what you are trying to do
[23:12] <Polarcraft> tomreyn, correct, but my problem is the mail isn't actually in that directory currently.
[23:12] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: did you check postfix's logs?
[23:13] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: what do they have to say about the email you sent, and how it processed it?
[23:13] <sgen> Hey all Im on ubuntu 15 and I want to upgrade to 16 but apt-get dist-upgrade is finding no updates
[23:13] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto#Setting_Postfix_Support_for_Maildir-style_Mailboxes
[23:13] <sgen> Im assuming this is because my /etc/apt/sources.list doesnt contain the 16 sources
[23:14] <k1l> sgen: ubuntu doesnt use apt to do that.
[23:14] <k1l> sgen: run "update-manager" on desktop or "sudo do-release-upgrade" in cli
[23:14] <sgen> ty
[23:14] <sgen> k1l: thanks!
[23:14] <k1l> sgen: that old way of upgradeing with apt is long time deprecated on ubuntu
[23:14] <maxb> You are not on Ubuntu 15. You are on either 15.04 or 15.10. These are distinct versions that are not part of some overarching Ubuntu 15 concept
[23:15] <sgen> maxb: Does the upgrade method change between 15.04 and 15.10?
[23:15] <screename> Bashing-om, It is ACER!
[23:15] <k1l> sgen: "lsb_release -sd" brings what output?
[23:15] <maxb> No, it's been the same for years
[23:15] <sgen> So what does it matter?
[23:15] <tomreyn> sgen: no its usage, no. internals probably have changed.
[23:15] <k1l> sgen: and yes, that is a big difference if you are on 15.04 or 15.10. since its 2 different releases
[23:15] <screename> but i dnot see that anywere on the mobo, itsa NFORCE 570 SLIT-A v5.1
[23:16] <maxb> You would probably find it awkward if I only typed the first half of every word, so don't do the equivalent with version numbers
[23:16] <screename> windows detected an ACER board, Phoenix AWARD bios update failed because it "Couldnt detect award bios"
[23:17] <sgen> So fo both yo ma
[23:17] <Sho__> hello.
[23:17] <screename> Also cleared the CMOS
[23:17] <Bashing-om> screename: Sounded like it . Ya got to circumvent Windows' shinanigan : see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330267 <-  set "trust" on the Ubuntu/grub .efi files.
[23:18] <sgen> k1l: thanks for the heads up on do-release-upgrade Im upgrading now
[23:18] <screename> Bashing-om, thats the most promising thing i have heard in the past week
[23:18] <Polarcraft> tomreyn, this is what the log says: http://i.tripps.pw/error.txt
[23:18] <transhuman_> hi have a slight problem have to back date 2 packages to the ones in the ubuntu 14.04 repository whats the easiest way to fix this
[23:19] <transhuman_> it tries to remove a million packages
[23:19] <screename> Bashing-om, although Im fairly sure this thing doesnt have UEFI
[23:20] <screename> Okay! can anybody help me find a BIOS update that will actually run
[23:20] <screename> Phoenix Tech, AWARD BIOS 6.0
[23:20] <Bashing-om> screename: I still will not be surprised if ya got to set a password to boot anything but Windows .
[23:20] <OerHeks> you better try #hardware for that
[23:20] <OerHeks> or ##hardware
[23:21] <screename> Bashing-om, setting a bios pass?
[23:21] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: okay, so it locally relayed it to tripps-pw's Maildir
[23:21] <k1l> screename: you need a bios update from your manufacturer. you cant just flash a random bios.
[23:21] <screename> i know
[23:21] <Polarcraft> tomreyn, is there supposed to be a file in the directory?
[23:21] <screename> NFORCE 570 SLIT-A v5.1
[23:21] <screename> Phoenix Tech AWARD BIOS 6.0
[23:21] <fione>  I want to ask about the installation of Whatsapp on ubuntu. Can anyone point me to the right channel?
[23:22] <OerHeks> whatsapp on ubuntu .. try the wineHQ database ?
[23:22] <OerHeks> !wine
[23:22] <danny_> People often say, Use a vm, put it in a vm.  I get that this somehow compartmentalizes stuff but when and why would I do this?  Also how hard is it?
[23:22] <OerHeks> i think it is not possible
[23:22] <tomreyn> Polarcraft: i would expect a file to have been written into /home/tripps-pw/Maildir/ now, yes. i'm not really into Maildir much, though.  included in this list are gimp and numlockx. both of these packages appear in the "upgrade" list later on. what gives? are these packages supported in 16 or not?
[23:43] <WaV> _adb: gimp is yes because I used it yesterday.
[23:44] <_adb> i expect that both packages will continue to work... i'm mostly confused why this tool reports that they're not supported
[23:45] <_adb> oh. apparently these packages were just moved from main to universe.
[23:45] <_adb> nevermind
[23:47] <decoder> :)
[23:53] <tomreyn> _adb: there are different levels of support. there are packages canonical will support, those in main. then there are thos community supported ones, and then there are others where no level of support is to be taken for granted at all.
[23:53] <tomreyn> ubuntu-support-status --show-all
[23:54] <tomreyn> ...provides canonicals' POV on your system.
[23:55] <_adb> oh, that's a neat tool. thanks!
[23:58] <tomreyn> welcome ;)