[05:34] <Kilos> morning all
[05:34] <Kilos> hi grvrulz welcome aboard
[05:35] <grvrulz> Hi Kilos. Thank you for the extra effort :)
[05:35] <Kilos> its my pleasure, was my fault
[05:36] <grvrulz> It's nobody's fault, just weird circumstances.
[05:36] <grvrulz> Anyway, now I can go to GUADEC as an official Ubuntu member.
[05:36] <grvrulz> :D
[05:36] <Kilos> im happy things worked out though
[05:37] <Kilos> yes you can ask for an ubuntu email address as well
[05:37] <grvrulz> Awesome :)
[05:37] <Kilos> and a cloak on irc
[05:37] <grvrulz> Where do I ask?
[05:37] <Kilos> #ubuntu-irc for the irc cloak
[05:38] <Kilos> um
[05:38] <Kilos> i forget where for the email addy though
[05:38] <grvrulz> No worries, there's no hurry.
[05:39] <Kilos> belkinsa nhaines help
[05:39] <Kilos> if you hang out here or in my home channel ill feedback as soon as i get reminded
[05:40] <grvrulz> I'll hang out here.
[05:40] <Kilos> cool ty
[05:40] <Kilos> :D
[05:40] <grvrulz> You too :)
[05:42] <Kilos> grvrulz where are you, all these timezones are hard work
[05:42] <Kilos> i just woke up. 7.41 am here
[05:42] <grvrulz> Kilos I'm in IST,(UTC+5:30)
[05:43] <Kilos> wow
[05:43] <grvrulz> It's 11:13 am here.
[05:45] <Kilos> oh i wanted to ask, have you guys got a loco there
[05:47] <grvrulz> Yes we do, although I'm not a part of it.
[05:47] <grvrulz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam
[05:47] <grvrulz> Kilos ^
[05:47] <Kilos> aha
[05:48] <Kilos> im going to be working with them next
[05:48] <Kilos> im trying to revive locos all over
[05:48] <Kilos> busy with your neighbours atm
[05:50] <grvrulz> That is awesome. There is not much momentum for localization in most parts of India, and that's not just in Ubuntu.
[05:51] <Kilos> i find that whole area is facebook users rather than irc
[05:51] <Kilos> and i dont use fb
[05:52] <grvrulz> That is definitely the case.
[14:08] <Kilos> grvrulz https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail i hope that has all the info you need
[14:13] <grvrulz> Kilos Thank you :) I found it after some searching on the wiki.
[14:14] <Kilos> cool
[14:14] <grvrulz> 👍


[02:35] <arraybolt3> Alright, got Konversation up and running.
[02:35] <arraybolt3> Er, wrong channel...


[23:22] <sebsebseb> mrpresident: Ndiswrapper gets the WIndows wireless drivers, working with Linux
[23:22] <linny> eseven73: yea you dont need to do that it will run more than once with the same user
[23:22] <eseven73> nice, better yet then :D
[23:22] <marianne> hmmm
[23:24] <jdu> scream, look into /etc/rc2.d
[23:24] <mrpresident> sebsebseb, thats right sorry bout that
[23:24] <sebsebseb> mrpresident: nevermind no problem
[23:24] <Matson> how do I re-run the locale selection that was done at startup?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> !locale
[23:24] <Matson> dpkg-reconfigure locales  doesn seem to do what I expected
[23:25] <Matson> thanks
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Matson: no problem, and  that was a good guess, didn't know that one existed
[23:25] <Mark_Jones> Is there a web page that has links to Ubuntu drivers?
[23:25] <Hartwell> close
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: drivers for what?
[23:25] <Mark_Jones> Ubuntu
[23:25] <jdu> scream, that directory contains all scripts that are started linux enters run level 2.  They are symbolic links to scripts in /etc/init.d
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: most hardware suppourt is built into the Linux kernel
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: for what device?
[23:26] <proq> when I boot ubuntu, it shows a solid black screen when gdm starts.  control-alt-F1 used to drop into a virtual terminal, but this doesn't work now. how do I get into a virtual terminal to fix the machine?
[23:26] <Mark_Jones> Ok I figured I just didnt know if there were 3rd party drivers
[23:26] <Mark_Jones> realtek 8211CL LAN
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: well the propritary graphics card drivers and such yeah
[23:26] <jdu> proq  try ctrl-alt-f1 more than once?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: have a look to see what is available under    system >  administaration > hardware drivers
[23:26] <aaronator> what is the error in this code?
[23:26] <aaronator> ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[23:26] <aaronator> ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: `<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1">'
[23:27] <proq> jdu: yes, I did
[23:27] <Mark_Jones> yeah its just the video card driver listed
[23:27] <Mark_Jones> I think Ill just slap an old 3com in it
[23:28] <Double_Kill2> hey is anyone in here good with terminal?
[23:28] <jdu> proq,  I have found that in recent versions of ubuntu I always have to hit it twice.  Is there ever anything on the screen?
[23:28] <xray7224> Double_Kill2, im ok
[23:28] <proq> jdu: nope, just solid black
[23:28] <linny> Double_Kill2: dont ask to ask
[23:29] <proq> well I was able to remove gdm from rescue mode
[23:29] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: thanks (again, just had a phone call that I had to take ... not sure any more came my way)
[23:29] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: will do hardy steps tonight
[23:29] <jdu> proq,  can you login without seeing anything?
[23:29] <xray7224> hey sebsebseb
[23:29] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: ok
[23:30] <SliderMan> !iso
[23:30] <proq> jdu: not really
[23:30] <sebsebseb> xray7224: I think there may be a guy here that you can help,   Mark_Jones
[23:30] <jdu> proq,  understandable.  It may be that you can fix the problem by remotely logging in.
[23:30] <Guest70236> how do i get ubuntu to show up on the windows network
[23:30] <Waouh>  Q
[23:30] <aaronator> what is the error in this code?
[23:30] <aaronator>  ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[23:30] <aaronator>  ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: `<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1">'
[23:31] <usser> Harpoon_, sudo apt-get install samba
[23:31] <proq> jdu: ok, it starts up ok without gdm now
[23:32] <jdu> proq,  I have often had X not work but the virtual terminal almost always function unless the monitor is out.
[23:32] <jdu> proq, so you can login visually?
[23:32] <proq> jdu: yeah, without gdm I am back to text login
[23:33] <ademar> hola, soy nuevo aquí
[23:33] <proq> jdu: I'm guessing virtual terminal not working is something to do with this odd aluminum apple keyboard
[23:33] <Denise> anybody knows hoe to set up a printer on a windows network?
[23:33] <Denise> I cant find the way
[23:33] <Cips> Hello
[23:33] <loquitus_of_borg> So when you are running 64 bit Ubuntu, do you also need to have 64 bit versions of all your applications, games, etc? I noticed that VMware has both 64 bit and 32 bit releases... so I am wondering if the same is true for things like games like say Doom or Quake?
[23:33] <taylor_> Hello Everyone, I'm trying to mount an initrd image on Ubuntu as a 'filesystem' any ideas?
[23:34] <jdu> proq,  probably the next step is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change your graphics drivers.  The vt isn't working?
[23:34] <Harpoon_> usser: what do i do after that?
[23:34] <usser> Harpoon_, nothing, it should show up in your windows network
[23:34] <usser> !samba | Harpoon_
[23:34] <proq> loquitus_of_borg: you can have both 32-bit and 64-bit software running.  but a 32-bit app can't link to 64-bit libs, and vice-versa
[23:34] <Harpoon_> thanks
[23:34] <ademar> denise: I had the same problem with my printer, a laser one, canon lbp3200
[23:35] <bonzo1993> hi @ all, i'v installed xubuntu and i've got problems with the screen resolution, the maximum is 800x600 how can i change this, using windows higher resolution was possible
[23:35] <ramontayag> hey everyone. i have an old compaq presario 1200 that i slapped xubuntu on. when i get to the login screen, it's blank. knowing the screen is okay, i plugged in an external monitor then restarted the gdm (ctrl+alt+backspace) and the login screen showed fine. then, i took out the external monitor, and i also tried alt+ctrl+f1 and alt+ctrl+f7 and the screen showed. what should i go to make the...
[23:35] <ramontayag> ...screen automatically show?
[23:35] <proq> jdu: right
[23:35] <Denise> ok
[23:35] <Denise> so what u did
[23:35] <pirinto> I'm having some dependency errors while upgrading, I accidentally pressed CTRL+C while upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04, can I run the install procedure again or should I let it finish
[23:35] <loquitus_of_borg> proq: so how does 64 bit Ubuntu handle the fact that probably the vast majority of stuff out there is still 32 bit? I could install Quake 4 or Doom III and those could (for the sake of argument) be only 32 bit executables... does that mean I can't play them?
[23:35] <bonzo1993> hi @ all, i'v installed xubuntu and i've got problems with the screen resolution, the maximum is 800x600 how can i change this, using windows higher resolution was possible
[23:36] <pere> hello! Could somebody help me to jailbrake a Itouch from my ubuntu??
[23:36] <Cips> cc
[23:36] <pirinto> I found somebody who accidentally had the same problem here
[23:36] <pirinto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777423
[23:36] <proq> loquitus_of_borg: you just have to have all the library dependencies installed
[23:36] <jdu> jdu: does that mean the keyboard is not giving the correct input?
[23:36] <ademar> I asked a friend. It's very difficult for me to work in a terminal.
[23:36] <ramontayag> pere: i'm not sure that's possible... get a mac or windows
[23:36] <pirinto> the advice he got was to run: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[23:36] <Denise> ah
[23:37] <pirinto> Anyone here who can give me some advice?
[23:37] <Denise> ty it helped
[23:37] <ademar> Excuse me for my english. I'm from South America
[23:37] <pere> ohh... well is that I don't have it...
[23:37] <pere> I also try to re-install Windows and I can't
[23:37] <loquitus_of_borg> proq: does 64 bit ubuntu have the option to install 32 bit dependencies and/or is this the default?
[23:37] <ramontayag> pere: borrow one. you can find out more at theiphoneblog.com. checkout the forums
[23:37] <proq> loquitus_of_borg: for example, if you want to run a game "xglo" and it requires 32-bit version of libX11, you have to install that 32-bit library to your 32-bit folder in ubuntu.  this may have changed in ubuntu 9.04, dunno
[23:37] <ademar> I coudn't make it work by myself
[23:38] <pere> well thanks for the disposition stay in contact bye!
[23:38] <proq> loquitus_of_borg: you install them with a bit of effort
[23:38] <jdu> taylor_, I don't have much experience with it, but if it is just a filesystem image, you can loop mount it.
[23:38] <chordogg> sounds like 64 bit is quite a hassle...
[23:39] <ademar> I can mail you the procedure I got from internet if you want
[23:39] <proq> only for 32-bit only apps
[23:39] <taylor_> jdu: thats what I tried, a few different ways, but I can't seem to make it work
[23:39] <loquitus_of_borg> proq: oh ok... I was alarmed about this because VMWare comes in both incarnations and I was thinking originally that you need 64 bit versions of anything you want to run... furthermore, VMWare 64 bit refuses to run on a 32 bit OS so I wondered if the converse was true
[23:40] <jdu> taylor, hmm, I assume with the right filesystem type.  Is it compressed?
[23:40] <taylor_> I decompressed it
[23:41] <chordogg> would anyone recommend installing 64 bit ubuntu? is it worth it?
[23:41] <Shlomi> hi all, how do i copy folders with cp?
[23:41] <J-_> chordogg: If you have more than 4gb of ram, sure
[23:41] <mrwes> I have just discovered the beauty of scp from the terminal! man does that rock..heh
[23:41] <ramontayag> Shlomi: pass -R for recursive
[23:41] <ukine> im using amd64
[23:41] <chordogg> J-_: well i do not :-P
[23:41] <taylor_> As I recall, one of the problems with 64-bit Ubuntu is Adobe Flash, but they may have fixed that.
[23:42] <ukine> works great
[23:42] <Shlomi> thanks
[23:42] <jdu> taylor_, then you have tried everything I would do off the top of my head. :[
[23:42] <loquitus_of_borg> taylor_: one of the key things I use is a flight simulator called X-Plane... it would suck if I switched to 64 bit and that totally was not compatible.
[23:42] <Cappy|Here> morning folks, whats the name or the package that has all the build tools in it, is it "build-essential"  ??
[23:42] <ukine> taylor_, there is now an x64 native adobe flash player
[23:42] <Shlomi> i wonder why those stuff dosent show up the files copying, you can never know if it does or not
[23:42] <Shlomi> lol
[23:43] <taylor_> pl
[23:43] <taylor_> *ok
[23:43] <proq> previously to use flash on 64-bit ubuntu, you installed a 32-bit browser
[23:43] <taylor_> Ok, now I am updated :)
[23:43] <ramontayag> Cappy|Here: yes i beleive so
[23:43] <taylor_> Well, Im not that good at 'mount' too, so its possible I inputted the wrong command
[23:43] <ramontayag> Shlomi: pass v for versbose too. -Rv
[23:44] <Webu> Cappy|Here, that should be it, yep.
[23:44] <Damis> Hi, I am reading through a guide to C, I was just wondering if Ubuntu comes with a C compiler program?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> what???  Songbird isn't in the repo?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> !songbird
[23:44] <mrwes> !compile
[23:44] <sebsebseb> mrwes: yeah I know
[23:44] <eseven73> !info songbird
[23:44] <Damis> sebsebseb: You can download songbird from the website.
[23:44] <mrwes> sebsebseb, uh?
[23:45] <sebsebseb> ok songbird has to be compiled then,  lame it should be in the repo, and this is for someone else
[23:45] <azzy> sebsebseb there are packages for songbird
[23:45] <mrwes> sebsebseb, I think there is a .deb file
[23:45] <ramontayag> sebsebseb: i don't think it has to be compiled. i just downloaded, unarchived, and ran an executable.
[23:45] <Damis> Just download the tar file, and run the executable file or whatever it's called.
[23:46] <azzy> does anyone know something about the cpufreq-info tool plz ? got some questions about this
[23:46] <eseven73> sebsebseb, if everything that "should" be in repos were in the repos, Ubuntu would be just as bloated as Microsoft... :P
[23:46] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[23:46] <aboleth> you know
[23:46] <aboleth> i wish that you didnt use repos
[23:46] <sebsebseb> aboleth: what?
[23:46] <aboleth> and stuff was directly from the source
[23:46] <aboleth> like
[23:46] <aboleth> it looked at sourceforge
[23:47] <aboleth> and looked at what was available
[23:47] <aboleth> it would be better that way imo
[23:47] <aboleth> it wouldnt make it bloated
[23:47] <FoShizzle> if a normal download is 100kbps, if i encrypt it with ssh how much slower will it be?
[23:47] <aboleth> it would just give it more options
[23:47] <sebsebseb> !enter |  aboleth
[23:47] <aboleth> i hate that rule
[23:47] <Harpoon_> can someone point me to a guide on terminal commands
[23:47] <eseven73> yeah holy enter key batman, slow down there
[23:47] <aboleth> i type as i think
[23:47] <mrwes> sebsebseb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[23:48] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[23:48] <sebsebseb> aboleth: I think your trying to troll a bit here, and if you want a distro where you got to compile like everything,  try  Gentoo or some such
[23:48] <aboleth> look at that
[23:48] <aboleth> i''m not trolling
[23:48] <aboleth> i'm not talking about compiling
[23:48] <eseven73> this isnt MSN aboleth! don't use enter key  after every thought
[23:48] <aboleth> i wish it was :P
[23:48] <FoShizzle> aboleth: bitlbee ;)
[23:48] <Wavesonics> Hi, If i have a script in my /etc/init.d and I already disabled it using: update-rc.d -f svnserve remove
[23:48] <Wavesonics>  is it safe to just delete the script?
[23:48] <aboleth> bitlbee?
[23:49] <aboleth> what's that
[23:49] <Michelle5> /usr/bin/dbus-send --system --dest=org.freedesktop.packageKit --type=method_call /org/freedesktop/packagekit org.freedesktop.packagekit/statehaschanged string:
[23:49] <Michelle5> that an error:D
[23:49] <LiMaO> Harpoon_: http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
[23:49] <FoShizzle> aboleth: local server which connects to msn through an irc client, it was more meant as a joke :P
[23:49] <aboleth> i see
[23:49] <LiMaO> Harpoon_: if you want something more practicle, have a look @ http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[23:50] <Harpoon_> lol thanks
[23:50] <_Brun0_> Anyone please help me installing my snd-hda-intel sound card? This is where i'm at: http://pastebin.com/m17d24a6e
[23:50] <monra> Hello. Could someone say one of these 2 numbers please, 1 or 2?
[23:50] <iceroot> monra: 3
[23:50] <aboleth> anyway, what i meant about the package thing, it wouldn't look for source, but debian packages. it would actually in a way be more similar to windows than gentoo, but i think that would be good in this case.
[23:50] <hy180> monra is the best
[23:50] <aboleth> but it should have an option for source too
[23:51] <aboleth> i actually plan on making this program
[23:51] <monra> iceroot: Well.. I need a really random number. So I'm asking here, a random said by a human should be random. So could you help me?
[23:51] <LiMaO> random between 2 choices isn't random
[23:51] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: turn alsa on?
[23:51] <aboleth> i wonder why no one else seems to have had this idea
[23:51] <erUSUL> monra: pi
[23:51] <_Brun0_> FoShizzle, how?
[23:51] <monra> LiMaO: Well.. it is! 50% to be 1, 50% to be 2? Why not ? :P
[23:52] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: um try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start
[23:52] <aboleth> because i think its a great one. publishing software is too difficult at the moment, and playing catch up with the repos is just stupid.
[23:52] <iceroot> !ot | monra
[23:52] <aboleth> i mean
[23:52] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: or it is maybe called alsasound
[23:52] <stealth-> how can i tell what version im running through the cli?
[23:52] <cypher1> does anyone have a problem using pinnacle pctv hd pro stick pc tv tuner in ubunt ?
[23:52] <proq> bitlbee isn't a joke, it's a great tool
[23:52] <aboleth> yeah you can publish a single version of a program really easily, but to keep your users up to date is more hard than it needs to be.
[23:52] <iceroot> stealth-: lsb_release -a
[23:53] <stealth-> iceroot: thanks
[23:53] <joao> I need some bash scripting help please
[23:53] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas why I cant unlock the default keyring? I've tried no password, my password, and the root password, and none of those did the trick
[23:53] <joao> http://pastebin.com/d5edd16aa
[23:53] <aboleth> is there something fundamentally wrong with my thinking or something, because i don't see why no one thought of anything like this.
[23:53] <joao> that script works until the iptables lines
[23:53] <FoShizzle> proq: we were talking about to use enter as a punctuation on msn rather than on irc, that's the joke
[23:53] <proq> GodfatherofEire: the keyring is stored with the seahorse app
[23:54] <aboleth> any responses?\
[23:54] <proq> FoShizzle: ah
[23:54] <FoShizzle> proq: yeah, it's kind of lame but yeah :P
[23:54] <cypher1> joao: does it give any error ?
[23:54] <aboleth> does anyone think my idea for changing the package manager is good?
[23:54] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: wake up!
[23:55] <_Brun0_> FoShizzle, I did "/etc/init.d/alsa start":  * Setting up ALSA... * warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_state:1577: No soundcards found...'...
[23:55] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[23:55] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: that does not sound good..
[23:55] <aboleth> i really would like some help with this
[23:55] <aboleth> people just don't seem to be giving me any attention
[23:55] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: sure it is the right driver?
[23:55] <aboleth> not just today
[23:56] <aboleth> i was trying to get help a few times on the irc channel a few times before
[23:56] <GodfatherofEire1> Never mind, it just didnt update to the current password
[23:56] <aboleth> i either talked to no one or someone who knew less than i did
[23:56] <keres> Can someone msg me the syntax for a forkbomb? i know this sounds like a very stupid question, but trust me.
[23:56] <aboleth> sometimes frustratingly so
[23:56] <proq> aboleth: some unix distros *do* just grab updates automatically from sources
[23:56] <aboleth> i bet that'll get answered before me
[23:56] <aboleth> proq: which ones?
[23:56] <proq> aboleth: openbsd
[23:57] <J-_> aboleth: Try installing xserver-xorg-input-joystick
[23:57] <proq> aboleth: gentoo as well
[23:57] <aboleth> proq: why is that not seen as superior?
[23:57] <aboleth> i mean
[23:57] <_Brun0_> FoShizzle, 1 sec leme double check.. According to lspci -v it is: Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel. I'll check in laptop manual.. =P 1 sec brb
[23:57] <aboleth> besides the source thing, but you don't need to do that
[23:57] <J-_> aboleth: Also check out jscalibrator to calibrate it
[23:57] <proq> aboleth: because building sources takes a lot of energy and that takes time and money
[23:57] <proq> energy as in kilowatts
[23:57] <GodfatherofEire1> How would I go about updating the default keyring password?
[23:57] <aboleth> J-_: one source said not to use it
[23:57] <aboleth> but i'll try
[23:58] <J-_> aboleth: hmm
[23:58] <Aizawa> Um, is there a way to get the absolutely latest version of jaunty? I.e, you don't need to update it after installation? Like a daily build or something
[23:58] <aboleth> are there any good websites or books on understanding package managers and ports?
[23:58] <J-_> aboleth: I use both in Jaunty(beta) and things seem to work well
[23:59] <aboleth> how exactly does openbsd's portage work?
[23:59] <aboleth> i mean
[23:59] <racecar56> i have some -old- maxtor diamondmax 21 that is in a usb hard drive enclosure, and i want to totally blank it without going out of ubuntu, is that possible?
[23:59] <aboleth> how does it get them directly from the source?
[23:59] <J-_> aboleth: this is a support channel for Ubuntu, check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:59] <aboleth> J-_: ok