[11:26] <Moodles> onkarshinde: pci tnt2 m64 with vivo
[11:26] <runevi> the kernel is continously spitting out errors such as:
[11:26] <runevi> [4332332.726000]  ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[11:26] <runevi> [4332332.726000]  ata2: called with no error (51)!
[11:26] <runevi> ..should i be worried? :)
[11:26] <onkarshinde> ubuntu-newbie-s: no you need not. You only need one command 'pon dsl-provider'
[11:27] <ubuntu-newbie-s> yes i do that pon dsl-provider i whait 5 min i can not surf
[11:27] <ubuntu-newbie-s> i need to run again sudo pppoeconf
[11:27] <ubuntu-newbie-s> yes i do that pon dsl-provider i whait 5 min i can not surf
[11:27] <ubuntu-newbie-s> i need to run again sudo pppoeconf
[11:27] <sorush20> !udev
[11:27] <Sage> hello
[11:28] <onkarshinde> ubuntu-newbie-s: What exact pon command you give?
[11:28] <ubuntu-newbie-s> pon dsl-provider
[11:28] <ubuntu-newbie-s> and allso sudo pon dsl-provider
[11:28] <onkarshinde> No sudo needed. After pon you can check log with 'plog -f'
[11:29] <ubuntu-newbie-s>  plog -f
[11:29] <ubuntu-newbie-s> nothing happens
[11:30] <onkarshinde> ubuntu-newbie-s: immediately after you do pon
[11:30] <onkarshinde> ubuntu-newbie-s: of course on command line
[11:31] <ubuntu-newbie-s> yes
[11:31] <ubuntu-newbie-s> but if i reboot i need to start over with sudo pppoeconf
[11:32] <onkarshinde> ubuntu-newbie-s: Can't help you
[11:32] <MrSunshine> ough
[11:32] <MrSunshine> and im downloading the live cd insted of the install cd
[11:32] <MrSunshine> smart move
[11:32] <MrSunshine> or?
[11:33] <ubuntu-newbie-s> i did now
[11:33] <mustard5> MrSunshine, are you using a different nick?
[11:33] <ubuntu-newbie-s>  poff dsl-provider
[11:33] <ubuntu-newbie-s> /usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed.    Please lobby Macromedia!
[11:37] <MrSunshine> btw, anyone using the amd64 version?* :>
[11:38] <MrSunshine> and know how mature it is?
[11:38] <MrSunshine> last i used an amd64 linux like very package was outdated by 6months :P
[11:38] <sorush20> onkarshinde: I don't really know much more about it
[11:38] <runevi> MrSunshine: Seems to run allright
[11:38] <runevi> MrSunshine: I use it on my box.
[11:38] <runevi> runevi@shiny:~$ uname -a
[11:38] <runevi> Linux shiny 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic #1 Mon Oct 10 13:27:39 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:38] <MrSunshine> runevi, no package problems etc? :>
[11:39] <runevi> MrSunshine: None yet.
[11:39] <Pygi> how many people ;)
[11:39] <MrSunshine> great :>
[11:39] <sorush20> any girls in here?
[11:39] <runevi> MrSunshine: except maybe one.
[11:39] <runevi> MrSunshine: I've not gotten my wmv playback in mplayer working yet.
[11:39] <Pygi> what is happening? flooding again? :/
[11:39] <runevi> MrSunshine: Has worked on ALL non-amd64 machines.
[11:39] <ndlovu> !flash
[11:39] <runevi> MrSunshine: But not certain that it's because of amd64.
[11:40] <ndlovu> !flash
[11:40] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:40] <Pygi> !FreeFormats
[11:40] <ubotu> hmm... freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:41] <onkarshinde> !FreeFormats
[11:41] <Pygi> not twice :/
[11:41] <onkarshinde> Pygi: ubotu is smart
[11:42] <Pygi> onkarshide: hehe
[11:42] <morphix> hmm.. does anyone know how to install and configure ClamAV so that it has the webinterface and also so that i can scan samba shares?
[11:42] <Seveas> !goodmorning
[11:42] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[11:43] <ndlovu> :)
[11:44] <gib8> i have a problem with alsa and nvmixer
[11:44] <gib8> how can i disable the nvmixer and use alsa?
[11:44] <ndlovu> am I right in thinking that shockwave animations won't work with ubuntu?
[11:45] <morphix> ur wrong.
[11:45] <MrSunshine> runevi, ahh .. now i remember.. that stupid codec problem
[11:45] <ndlovu> morphix: how can I get them to work?
[11:45] <MrSunshine> runevi, but shouldnt that fix itself as more and more 64bit codecs comes to windows? :>
[11:46] <morphix> i dunno.. but i know i can view shockwave animations.. i just installed shockwave plugins.
[11:47] <MrSunshine> runevi, or staticly link mplayer in a 32bit environment :>
[11:47] <MrSunshine> it will most probably be huge but will run under 64bit and be able to use 32bit codecs :<z
[11:52] <MrSunshine> btw, are most features already built into the ubuntu packages? .. in gentoo you can select what you want but in ubuntu ? :> ...
[11:53] <Seveas> MrSunshine, everything that is ok according to Ubuntu policy is in the packages
[11:53] <userbn> ghkljkl
[11:53] <MrSunshine> Seveas, k
[11:53] <userbn> hjlk
[11:53] <MrSunshine> dammit :P
[11:54] <morphix> does anyone know how to install and configure ClamAV so that it has the webinterface and also so that i can scan samba shares?
[11:56] <onkarshinde> morphix: I don't think there is web interface to clamav
[11:56] <mebsd> you want to greatly slow down the already slow samba
[11:58] <jones-> Hello
[11:58] <mustard5> welcome jones-
[11:58] <jones-> I'm running Ubuntu/PPC on my iBook, and have this problem: after a 'suspend', often esd won't work anymore
[11:58] <jones-> (thanks for the welcome mustard5)
[11:58] <mustard5> :)
[11:58] <jones-> anybody knows what should I check or something?
[11:59] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone.
[11:59] <mustard5> greetings Spee_Der
[11:59] <runevi> Hmf.  This raid isn't the fastes I've been working with. ;)  Probably the punishment the gods are giving me for making a software raid out of sata. ;D
[11:59] <mebsd> good morning newbies
[11:59] <mustard5> jones-, not sure about that one
[11:59] <morphix> # Webmin ClamAV
[11:59] <morphix> * Supports: clamav
[11:59] <morphix> wbmclamav is a webmin module to manage Clam Antivirus written by Emmanuel Saracco.
[11:59] <morphix> ^^
[12:00] <samy-ubuntu> Hi all
[12:00] <Spee_Der> Hello samy
[12:02] <mustard5> jones-, check this thread out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57725&highlight=esd+suspend
[12:03] <samy-ubuntu> i 'm trying to install beagle 0.1.3 on a Dapper distro, but when i try to compile , i've got an error message saying that  Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2 firefox-gtkmozembed) were not met , and i don't know where i can get this stuff
[12:03] <jones-> checkin
[12:03] <mustard5> jones-, its pretty sparse, but its an angle :)
[12:04] <Spee_Der> samy
[12:04] <onkarshinde> samy-ubuntu: isn't beagle already in repos?
[12:04] <Seveas> onkarshinde, it is
[12:04] <Spee_Der> I was just reading the how-to's
[12:04] <Seveas> samy-ubuntu, apt-get install beagle
[12:05] <samy-ubuntu> it is, but when i run it, best doesn't want to launch
[12:05] <mebsd> wtf is beagle
[12:05] <Seveas> desktop search thingie
[12:05] <Seveas> really cool, really fragile
[12:07] <kane77> morning everybody...
[12:07] <samy-ubuntu> Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
[12:07] <samy-ubuntu> a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
[12:07] <samy-ubuntu> used by your application.
[12:07] <samy-ubuntu>  it's what the screen displays when i try to run Best
[12:07] <bungle> beagle rocks
[12:07] <robotgeek> bungle: long time, agreed. beagle rocks :)
[12:15] <[Kismet] > Do you know I can I get infomation on the version of ipw2200 driver?
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[12:28] (ArkticWolf/#ubuntu) that.. was a pretty big netsplit.
[12:28] (wol_/#ubuntu) hello
[12:28] (mahangu_/#ubuntu) yeah
[12:28] (mahangu_/#ubuntu) pretty big alright
[12:28] (wol_/#ubuntu) please guide me for dialing 56 kbps modem
[12:29] (jenda/#ubuntu) wtf
[12:29] (dkg/#ubuntu) is there a channel for ubuntu server?
[12:29] (jenda/#ubuntu) dkg: me don't think so
[12:29] (Hobbsee/#ubuntu) jenda: server problems with freenode - they're fixing it
[12:30] <ArkticWolf> wol_: To start you off you'd want to use wvdial, it's the easyest dialup program i've used; sudo apt-get install wvdial
[12:30] <burepe> Hobbsee, what were thoes help commands? I got ops again
[12:30] <jenda> Hobbsee: OK. will irc.freenode.net be up anytime soon?
[12:32] <jenda> yeah...
[12:32] <gtk2> ArkticWolf, now THAT was a pretty big netsplit.
[12:32] <ArkticWolf> I stand corrected.
[12:32] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:33] <bungle> sure was
[12:33] <Hobbsee> pretty purple wave here...
[12:33] <bungle> very quick though
[12:33] <ArkticWolf> pretty blue wave here
[12:34] <bungle> green one here
[12:34] <gtk2> bungle, <x rated="yes">everything on freenode is fast.</x>
[12:34] <gtk2> well, mine was brown followed by green.
[12:34] <gtk2> which reminds me of spring.
[12:34] <bungle> lol
[12:34] <silverton> gtk2, werd
[12:35] <gtk2> forra love that 1/493 op to user ratio.
[12:35] <ArkticWolf> mine reminds me of.. snow and ...dirt :/
[12:35] <gtk2> i needed to be reminded of spring, thank you freenode
[12:35] <gtk2> <3 freenode
[12:36] <gtk2> on a side note, it's FREEZING here. :(
[12:36] <ArkticWolf> lol.
[12:37] <gtk2> oh, while it's quiet and not insane here...
[12:37] <gib8> i think for ArkticWolf its the best temperature ;)
[12:37] <gtk2> anyone have any idea why ubuntu is SO far behind on dbus? x.x;
[12:37] <gtk2> dbus is up to 0.6, ubuntu is way back at 0.31 i believe.
[12:38] <gib8> what can i do when my soundmodul for my card is defect? can i install that modul new?
[12:39] <gtk2> gib8, hm... how exactly is it defective?
[12:40] <ArkticWolf> nah, bugger that..lol
[12:40] <falls> hello , I use ubuntu 5.10 , but I can't search kdevelop/anjuta , where can I find them ?
[12:41] <ArkticWolf> falls: Have you enabled the universe repositories?
[12:41] <gib8> gtk2, /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko
[12:41] <gib8> /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/pci/korg1212/snd-korg1212.ko
[12:41] <gib8> charly@kjb-ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe snd-ac97-codec
[12:41] <gib8> Password:
[12:41] <gib8> charly@kjb-ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:41] <gib8> --- no soundcards ---
[12:41] <gib8> charly@kjb-ubuntu:~$
[12:42] <gtk2> gib8, it's not currupt, there's something else going on.
[12:42] <gib8> gtk2, i installed the audiodrivers form the nforce and they r working not fine
[12:42] <gib8> and now i wanna have the old drivers back
[12:42] <gtk2> if it were corrupt, it'd throw out strange errors at you.
[12:43] <gib8> or a way to get alsa worked with my card ;)
[12:43] <gtk2> gib8, have you tried looking at the forums? i'm not very good with this stuff ;)
[12:43] <gtk2> there's some very nice alsa guides on the forums.
[12:43] <gib8> gtk2, yes i did intalling it like descripted in the german-wiki
[12:44] <brizio> -it
[12:46] <gtk2> another round please, sir?
[12:47] <ArkticWolf> pfft. you call that a netsplit, weak effort :\
[12:47] <kane__> so we have another spring... :)
[12:47] <gtk2> and there goes seveas's ops. ;)
[12:47] <gtk2> kane__, i'm feeling warmer already. :D
[12:49] <bungle> bye
[12:49] <d34th> hola?
[12:49] <bungle> and welcome back lol
[12:49] <jenda_busy> halo
[12:50] <[Kismet] > Hi
[12:50] <d34th> y toda esta pea?
[12:50] <morphix> can i install something in ubuntu using red hat/fedora rpm files?
[12:50] <ArkticWolf> now *That's* a netsplit.
[12:51] <jenda_busy> morphix: you can use alien
[12:51] <phyburn> where would i find my x11 file to config my reslution
[12:51] <ArkticWolf> morphix: look at alien.  it's a package converter you can use to comvert rpm to deb for installation.
[12:51] <morphix> i used that
[12:51] <morphix> but it didnt work.
[12:51] <pizux> is there anyway to change between gdm and kdm at startup?
[12:51] <jenda_busy> morphix: describe the error
[12:51] <ArkticWolf> phyburn: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:51] <bungle> what u tryong to install morphix ?
[12:52] <phyburn> ArkticWolf thanks
[12:52] <morphix> mcafee linuxshield.
[12:52] <morphix> there is no executable file.
[12:52] <robotgeek> phyburn: if you have both, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:52] <ArkticWolf> np.
[12:52] <bungle> oh ok
[12:53] <bungle> what is that anyway morphix ?
[12:53] <bungle> ive never heard of it morphix
[12:53] <morphix> anti-virus
[12:53] <jenda_busy> I've heard of it...
[12:53] <bungle> ok
[12:54] <jenda_busy> when you "sudo alien blahmcafeeblah.rpm" what happens?
[12:54] <echo> hello there!
[12:55] <Hobbsee> hey echo
[12:56] <echo> I have a serious problem with my ubuntu...
[12:56] <morphix> :(
[12:57] <echo> I use it on a laptop (hp nx8220) and the mousepad i fukkked up, like half of it is used to scroll horizintal... :p
[12:58] <zion_> i have sheared folder .. trying to open it from winxp machine it asks me for a password and name .. which one is it ?/
[12:58] <gtk2> this is just so fun.
[12:58] <zion_> splits pisses me off
[12:58] <zion_> i have sheared folder .. trying to open it from winxp machine it asks me for a password and name .. which one is it ?
[12:58] <gtk2> zion_, cant be avoided, blame the bots.
[12:58] <ArkticWolf> when 5 of them happen in 20 minutes, it gets on the annoying side.
[12:58] <zion_> not blaming any one
[12:59] <Marxist> it's bearable
[12:59] <gtk2> ArkticWolf, they're cycling ALL hte freenode servers to apply the patch against bots, what do you expect?
[12:59] <echo> who invented spilts, im gonna split them!
[12:59] <echo> I use Ubuntu on a laptop (hp nx8220) and the mousepad i fukkked up, like half of it is used to scroll horizintal... :<
[12:59] <ArkticWolf> gtk2: i want to be splitted, eveyone else gets a ride and i dont :(
[01:00] <gtk2> ArkticWolf, you did get split ;)
[01:00] <ArkticWolf> i did? i just got disconnected, and I had to reconnect myself :/
[01:00] <gtk2> ArkticWolf, heh, your server split just before that. ;)
[01:01] <ArkticWolf> oh.
[01:01] <sciboy> Hey guys, i am having issues with the latest NVIDIA driver under Debian, 2 channels are better than one. =P
[01:01] <flankk> Is there an application to download and transfer podcasts to an iPod?  I can't seem to find anything.
[01:01] <Hoxzer> hey hey guys
[01:01] <Hoxzer> maan freenode finally working
[01:01] <Hoxzer> I can continue asking questions
[01:02] <zion_> can some one help me with shares ?
[01:02] <sciboy> So after installing 8174 via. module-assistant, i startx and my screen goes blank.
[01:02] <Hoxzer> so where do I need to save .dll files so wine can use them?
[01:02] <sciboy> I can't CTRL+ALT+F1, CTRL+ALT+BCKSPACE, nothing. So i have to hard reboot.
[01:02] <sciboy> Is there any news of such problems?
[01:02] <ArkticWolf> wine should be able to use DLL files relative to the applications directory when they are called
[01:03] <sciboy> Unfortunately i don't have access to a graphical enviroment at the moment.
[01:03] <flankk> Hello?
[01:03] <sciboy> G'day.
[01:03] <Hoxzer> Arktic: so if program paska needs dll file pillu.dll I just save it to where I have install paska?
[01:03] <ArkticWolf> flankk: i don't think so, but i'm not sure, google it
[01:04] <Hoxzer> *installed
[01:04] <ArkticWolf> Hoxzer: try it, can't hurt
[01:05] <silverton> sciboy, edit your xorg.conf file, replace the "nvidia" driver with "nv" and you'll be set for a gui, as for the nvidia driver, hang on
[01:05] <Hoxzer> ok, will do
[01:05] <silverton> sciboy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[01:05] <ArkticWolf> brb.
[01:05] <flankk> ArkticWolf, I have, and came up with nothing.  Lots of stuff about podcasting, which is easy as pie.  I can't just write a bash script because there are playlist databases on the ipod that need to be edited.  gtkpod uses them.. but doesn't deal with podcasts.  I'd like to think this would be a common question..
[01:06] <sciboy> Yay text-mode browsers.
[01:06] <silverton> k, don't need narration :P
[01:06] <defiance`> Hmm.
[01:07] <runevi> But in ubuntu - bc isn't included by default! ;)  (Yes, I consider that a bug ;)
[01:08] <runevi> Bug.
[01:09] <sciboy> Brb, switching to X.
[01:10] <burepe> Can anyone tell me something about tv tuner cards?
[01:12] <ndlovu> !mpg
[01:12] <ubotu> ndlovu: Not a clue
[01:12] <ndlovu> can somebody help me figure out why I get pink and blue lines when viewing a .mpeg in Totem?
[01:13] <ndlovu> I've installed gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg w32codecs...
[01:14] <ndlovu> file tells me warriors-700-VBR.mpeg: MPEG sequence, v1, system multiplex
[01:15] <funkyHat> I have a big problem with apt...
[01:15] <silverton> okay...
[01:15] <funkyHat> It looks like it just can't see any packages
[01:15] <silverton> 0.o
[01:16] <funkyHat> no matter what I put in after sudo apt-get install I always get E: Couldn't find package
[01:16] <funkyHat> and then either the name of the package or a DIRECTORY in the path I specified
[01:17] <funkyHat> :/ And since when did Ubuntu apt have super cow powers?
[01:17] <silverton> ...
[01:18] <silverton> dude
[01:18] <silverton> apt has super cow powers period
[01:18] <silverton> noduh ;D
[01:18] <funkyHat> Debian apt always did, but Ubuntu apt never used to :P
[01:18] <funkyHat> I swear it :P
[01:18] <silverton> funkyHat, try sudo apt-get update
[01:18] <funkyHat> ARGH
[01:19] <ArkticWolf> In Flames - Trigger
[01:19] <ArkticWolf> :D
[01:19] <funkyHat> It was dpkg I wanted wasn't it *'_'*
[01:20] <silverton> what you have .deb files downloaded and you're trying to install those?
[01:20] <ProN00b> i need a tutorial on how to set up ubuntu as an internet gateway for my lan, can anyone point me some tutorial ? (lan on eth0, internet on ppp0 pppoe oveer eth1)
[01:20] <funkyHat> silverton, Yeah haha, mental block. It's gone now, everything's working find
[01:20] <funkyHat> *fine
[01:21] <silverton> dpkg -i foo.deb ;D
[01:21] <ProN00b> teh help !
[01:21] <ddaa> Duh
[01:22] <ddaa> what's the proper package to file a bug against?
[01:23] <ProN00b> does anyone have a tutorial for setting up ubuntu as an gateway ?
[01:23] <zion_> i think any  other tutorial on setting up a gateway will work aswell
[01:24] <ProN00b> zion_, do you have one ?
[01:24] <ndlovu> if a video's not playing in totem, am I likely to have more luck installing xine-ui or mplayer?
[01:24] <zion_> nope .. but i thing google might have
[01:24] <rob_p> ProN00b:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/
[01:24] <ArkticWolf> ProN00b: I'm not aware of one, but I can show you how to do NAT from ppp0 to your LAN?
[01:25] <ddaa> there's a famous howto from Rusty Russel about NAT
[01:25] <pmab> hi, ive just installed ubuntu, but networking seems really dodgy...
[01:25] <ArkticWolf> easily done via iptables, few lines of script.
[01:25] <zoka> He people
[01:25] <ProN00b> ArkticWolf, would apreciate that
[01:26] <ArkticWolf> Okay, hold on
[01:26] <zoka> which distribution would you recomend me for internet club at my univercity
[01:26] <zoka> edu variant or noraml dist
[01:26] <ArkticWolf> Ubuntu is fine, I use it here
[01:27] <zoka> edu variant looks like for primary school
[01:28] <ArkticWolf> ProN00b: http://www.wolfbox.kicks-ass.net/ipmasq.sh << That is my NAT script.  works perfectly for me, blocks some ports, but leaves others open.  excuse the slowness, i'm uploading and downloading full knockers
[01:28] <sciboy> Okey, now this is interesting... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343186
[01:29] <jenda_busy> Hey - waht's better: 512 megs of RAM or two pieces @ 256 each?
[01:29] <sciboy> Even more so, cause it's coming from another user of a Toshiba laptop.
[01:29] <jenda_busy> PS: urgent :)
[01:29] <ArkticWolf> 2 sticks of 256MB is better
[01:29] <ArkticWolf> providing it's DDR
[01:29] <ProN00b> ArkticWolf, what you mean, which ports are open to the internet with that, the one of the gateway, or the one of the box in the lan ?
[01:29] <jenda_busy> ArkticWolf: thanks
[01:29] <ArkticWolf> ports are open to the gateway
[01:30] <ArkticWolf> and the gateway only
[01:30] <ArkticWolf> only if you forward ports, will the be open to the specified LAN IP
[01:30] <ArkticWolf> they*
[01:30] <ProN00b> why is it dropping 139 and 445 then ?
[01:30] <ProN00b> ubuntu doesn't usually got those ports open *_*
[01:30] <ArkticWolf> cause I run samba on this box, things like to dump windoze viruses on it.
[01:31] <ArkticWolf> you don't need the last 2 lines also.
[01:31] <ProN00b> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXT_IF -j MASQUERADE
[01:31] <ProN00b> thats all i need ?
[01:31] <ProN00b> how can i disable that line again ?
[01:31] <ArkticWolf> and echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:32] <sdakota> hi guys
[01:32] <ProN00b> how can i disable that iptables line again ?
[01:32] <sdakota> the apt package that has most dependancies....
[01:32] <sciboy> Okey, i believe i am suffering from the same bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343186 : and i find it even more suspicious considering that i am using a Toshiba Satellite 5205-S505, and the user reports using a toshiba laptop aswell.
[01:33] <sdakota> I think it's kde, it wants to install about 300 packages
[01:33] <sdakota> sciboy, that's debian.org, this is #ubuntu.
[01:34] <pinkisntwell> does anyone else here think that ubuntu's fonts for firefox suck big time?
[01:34] <ProN00b> ArkticWolf, can you tell me how to disable that again ?
[01:34] <sdakota> euhh... X-Window is installed but startx doesn't work ... how to start up X-Window?
[01:35] <ArkticWolf> Pron00b: iptables -t nat -D <rule number>
[01:35] <ArkticWolf> you will have to do iptables -t nat -L
[01:35] <ArkticWolf> and look at the number it is
[01:35] <ddaa> pinkisntwell: I disagree. I do have to adjust the default size of the monospace font to match the normal font, but otherwise it's great.
[01:35] <sciboy> sdakota: I fail to see the point.
[01:35] <sciboy> sdakota: The same problem would apply under Ubuntu aswell.
[01:35] <Muldy>  will a module compiled for ia-32 kernel work on the x86-64 kernel?
[01:36] <ArkticWolf> and to disable outgoing packet switching, do `echo "0" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/forward
[01:36] <sciboy> Muldy: I doubt it, we are talking kernel modules after all.
[01:37] <pinkisntwell> ddaa: also greek fonts, I had to install msttcorefonts to make greek fonts bearable in firefox
[01:37] <Muldy> sciboy, hmmm yeah.. probably wishful thinking heh
[01:37] <sdakota> so how to start the x-window system?
[01:38] <robotgeek> pinkisntwell: install gsfonts-x11, msttcorefonts and see if that helps
[01:38] <ProN00b> ArkticWolf, what number ? *_*
[01:38] <ArkticWolf> iptables -t nat -L to see what it is
[01:38] <ArkticWolf> it should be 1
[01:38] <pinkisntwell> robotgeek: yes, but it's *really* ugly needing to install ms fonts on a linux system out of the box
[01:38] <ArkticWolf> if it claims about index deletion too big you already deleted it
[01:39] <meepy> whats the command to show all the info about your linux box in console? :) Like mhz, gcc version, graphic card and so on?
[01:39] <LCamel> sdakota: maybe there are some messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[01:39] <robotgeek> pinkisntwell: maybe you need to reconfigure your fonts rendering
[01:39] <pinkisntwell> robotgeek: meaning?
[01:39] <Muldy> what's the url of a ubuntu package repository?
[01:39] <robotgeek> pinkisntwell: is this a lcd, cause my fonts are sweet
[01:39] <ProN00b> ArkticWolf, there is not a single number when i run that command, only something like "MASQUERADE  all  --  anywhere             anywhere
[01:39] <ProN00b> "
[01:40] <Muldy> i'm in windows, and i need to manually download a few packages
[01:40] <ArkticWolf> yeah
[01:40] <ArkticWolf> Pron00b: is it the first one?
[01:40] <pinkisntwell> robotgeek: no, this is a crt
[01:40] <sdakota> LCamel: No, Just noticed, I forgot to install x-window-system-core package, probably startx is in that
[01:40] <robotgeek> pinkisntwell: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[01:40] <bimberi> Muldy: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:40] <Stormx> Yay freenode is back
[01:40] <Stormx> what happened to it?
[01:40] <ProN00b> ArkticWolf, no, there is other stuff
[01:41] <ProN00b> but it seems to be the first rule
[01:41] <ArkticWolf> okay, well what number is it in the list?
[01:41] <ArkticWolf> you have to count yourself
[01:41] <joedj> meepy: linuxinfo will give you some of it
[01:41] <ProN00b> its the first and only rule i see when running that command, ArkticWolf
[01:41] <ArkticWolf> okay
[01:41] <ArkticWolf> use number 1
[01:42] <ArkticWolf> iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING 1
[01:42] <meepy> Hmm
[01:42] <bimberi> Stormx: i think it underwent some configuration changes - as an anti spambot measure
[01:42] <joedj> meepy: sudo apt-get install linuxinfo if you don't have it
[01:42] <ArkticWolf> will clear the rule
[01:42] <Stormx> bimberi: Goodo
[01:42] <robotgeek> pinkisntwell: did that help?
[01:42] <Muldy> bimberi, cheers, but i was thinking more along the lines of where the packages would actually lie, so that i can dig around and find an actual link to download it via firefox. i dont have the luxury of synaptic/apt-get right now
[01:42] <ProN00b> iptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?)
[01:42] <robotgeek> Muldy: you can always download from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <bimberi> Muldy: you can search for and download the packages (.deb files) via that site
[01:43] <pinkisntwell> robotgeek: i can configure them from system -> prefs -> fonts, no?
[01:43] <Muldy> oh
[01:43] <meepy> thanks
[01:43] <robotgeek> pinkisntwell: hmm, not sure. maybe, maybe not
[01:43] <Muldy> robotgeek, bimberi : i see the links now. i missed htem in my gloss over before. cheers.
[01:43] <ProN00b> works, thanks, ArkticWolf
[01:43] <pinkisntwell> robotgeek: ok, i'll take a look
[01:44] <ArkticWolf> np.
[01:44] <ArkticWolf> on that note i'm going to play some games.
[01:45] <bimberi> Muldy: np :) (btw http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ might have been what you had in mind but the packages site might be better)
[01:46] <Muldy> bimberi, cheers
[01:47] <Toba> !tell me about distupgrade
[01:48] <sdakota> uuh - one question -- would it be a good idea to make a way to make ubuntu as easy as windows in some things? For example, that new Linux users get a good impression of it! Euh, like a program that tells the user about what to do if they want to do something (like if they want to make an article, use OpenOffice which looks like Word, etc etc)
[01:49] <ganJi>
[01:49] <ganJi>
[01:49] <sdakota> ganJi: ?
[01:49] <ganJi> khaha
[01:50] <ganJi> nee niche
[01:50] <rob1> no
[01:50] <Toba> sdakota: basically the control panel in xp mode?
[01:50] <Toba> but for linux?
[01:50] <ganJi> a vi vse inostrancy chto li?
[01:50] <sdakota> Toba: Yes and no -- let me explain a bit......
[01:50] <Toba> k
[01:50] <Toba> this sounds somewhat interesting for new people
[01:50] <ajmitch> ganJi: english in here, please
[01:51] <sdakota> Toba: In windows, people download EXE's and run them, these EXE's do everything for them and they don't have to do anything (in most situations)
[01:51] <Toba> heh
[01:51] <Toba> that's a bad thing.
[01:51] <ndlovu> when I play video I can hear audio but only see strange green and pink lines (in any player) - is this likely to be the codec or my graphics setup or what?
[01:51] <Toba> because guess what?  The installers are not standardized.
[01:51] <Toba> ndlovu: codecs
[01:52] <Toba> hvae you tried using VLC?
[01:52] <sdakota> Toba: If installing a program needs a little more maintenance then that, general people will fail to install the program correctly, they need someone who knows more about computers to install the program for them
[01:52] <Toba> sdakota: that's what repositories are for
[01:52] <Toba> they work great
[01:52] <ndlovu> !vlc
[01:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[01:52] <ndlovu> toba: thanks, will try that
[01:52] <Toba> :)
[01:52] <Toba> np
[01:52] <ganJi> poshli vy vse inostrannie urodi...
[01:53] <sdakota> Toba: Now - in linux situations... people can't just download a file and run it etc.
[01:53] <Toba> yes they can.
[01:53] <Toba> look at firefox.
[01:53] <sdakota> Toba: Most programs can only be installed using the console
[01:53] <Toba> 1.5 is not yet in the repos by I installed it that way
[01:53] <Toba> sdakota: well that's not the fault of the distro
[01:53] <Hoxzer> where does apt-get save .deb files it downloads?
[01:54] <Toba> that's the fault of the people making the program
[01:54] <Toba> if they put it in the community maintained repositories then it's easier
[01:54] <sdakota> Toba: I know, yes
[01:54] <jk> Hoxzer:  /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:54] <Hoxzer> thx
[01:54] <Toba> most people, having been used to windows, can't get used to looking in the repository for what they need instead of googling though
[01:54] <Toba> the repositories have nearly everything you will ever want
[01:55] <sdakota> Toba: I know
[01:55] <sdakota> Toba: but even aptitude is more then general Windows people can do
[01:55] <jk> every software project should build ubuntu debs and ubuntu should make debs executable, making it automatically download dependencies ;-)
[01:55] <Toba> sdakota: that's why we have synaptic
[01:55] <Toba> jk: that, sir, is an awesome idea.
[01:56] <sdakota> Toba, jk: Thats exactly what I mean!
[01:56] <jk> Toba: in Dapper, it's already possible to just doubleclick on a .deb to install it afaik
[01:56] <Toba> jk: 6.04?
[01:56] <funkyHat> nice
[01:56] <Toba> that's awesome....
[01:56] <Toba> anyways
[01:56] <sdakota> Toba, jk: they just download a file, or click a file, or whatever, and everything is being done for them in a comfortable environment
[01:56] <Toba> heh
[01:56] <Toba> lazy asses
[01:56] <Toba> but I know what you mean
[01:56] <Toba> hrm
[01:57] <Toba> I just did dist-upgrade
[01:57] <sdakota> Toba, jk: Heh ^^ I could just go in commercial industriy ^_^
[01:57] <Toba> so am I now using breezy? o_0
[01:57] <sdakota> Toba: No, you need to edit sources.list too for that
[01:57] <Toba> o rly
[01:57] <Toba> oh to use the new repos
[01:57] <Toba> durrr
[01:57] <Toba> in /etc right?
[01:57] <sdakota> funkyHat: Yea, it needs protection to that too
[01:58] <funkyHat> sdakota, how would one go about creating this protection though?
[01:58] <sdakota> for example, a smart program
[01:58] <sdakota> funkyHat, Very easy! It won't download from everywhere, but with a special program that only downloads from a secure host - and md5 can also be used ^^
[01:58] <Hoxzer> OMG
[01:59] <funkyHat> sdakota, may as well use synaptic then, if it will only download from a certain list of hosts
[01:59] <arod_> I'm unable to install 'permit cookies' extension. any hint?
[01:59] <arod_> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=44&application=firefox
[01:59] <sdakota> funkyHat: Think about 2 types of servers: One will contain all MD5 sums, and the other will have all the files - there is only 1 md5-server and lots of the other types
[01:59] <shadeofgrey> hey
[01:59] <sdakota> funkyHat, Even synaptic is out of the range for usual Windows users
[02:00] <shadeofgrey> anybody know of a good sources.list file for upgrading to dapper?
[02:00] <funkyHat> sdakota, sounds good, but that requires that either the developers of all those pacakges register with ubuntu + every other distro that takes the idea on board,
[02:00] <funkyHat> or you have ubuntu engineers running about collecting the .debs and putting up the md5s
[02:00] <sdakota> funkyHat, yup....
[02:01] <funkyHat> I don't think either of those options is 100% viable
[02:01] <funkyHat> As both sides can argue why should we bother
[02:01] <sdakota> funkyHat, an md5 is easily made - Programmers can create a program, upload the source code to some automatic program, this program creates a .deb and a md5, uploads both to the main server, and all mirror servers download the .deb from the main server, and you're done
[02:02] <shadeofgrey> okay look
[02:02] <shadeofgrey> i need to know something
[02:02] <shadeofgrey> if i upgrade to dapper am i going to lose my install of FF 1.5 which i installed manually?
[02:02] <funkyHat> sdakota, and make provisions for programmers that don't want to release their source code
[02:02] <shadeofgrey> because i upgraded to 1.5 on my own
[02:02] <shadeofgrey> becausethe ubuntu version of 1.5 is dog ass slow
[02:02] <sdakota> funkyHat: It will increase the use of Linux due to the easy usability, and thus increase the attention for other programmers and game makers, and as soon as some games start coming out for linux, the use will increase even more
[02:03] <wim> hmmm ,the source code of FF is available, right?
[02:03] <shadeofgrey> true
[02:03] <shadeofgrey> wim:  you can get the tarball off mozilla.org right now
[02:03] <funkyHat> shadeofgrey, You might not loose it, but if you don't uninstall before upgrading, you might break all sorts of things
[02:03] <funkyHat> shadeofgrey, where have you installed ff1.5?
[02:03] <sdakota> funkyHat: Ok - but what about this - the source code is securily (SSL) being uploaded to the Main Server, and the source code is saved encrypted
[02:03] <shadeofgrey> uhm...  opt/firefox i think
[02:04] <funkyHat> sdakota, how do you assure the programmers of that? why not simply allow them to upload the binary packages?
[02:04] <shadeofgrey> how the hell do i manually uninstall ff 1.5
[02:04] <shadeofgrey> i never thought about that
[02:04] <shadeofgrey> damn
[02:04] <funkyHat> shadeofgrey, you'll be fine then, it won't break stuff
[02:04] <wim> shadeofgrey, cheers found it
[02:05] <shadeofgrey> look
[02:05] <funkyHat> shadeofgrey, to uninstall, sudo make uninstall (when in the source directory)
[02:05] <shadeofgrey> all i need to work is FF openoffice and thunderbird and xchat
[02:05] <shadeofgrey> i just wanna see dapper cause everybody says its off the chain
[02:06] <Muldy> are they integrating any tpm stuff into dapper/
[02:06] <rob1> I have dapper working on my laptop
[02:06] <shadeofgrey> i just TOTALLY dont want to end up with the situation i had the first time i installed breezy
[02:06] <rob1> few bugs though
[02:06] <mojo> anyone got good links to help me get my roms working with XMAME in Ubuntu?
[02:06] <shadeofgrey> nuked my whole damn install and had to start from scratch
[02:06] <sdakota> funkyHat: Because ...
[02:06] <shadeofgrey> i was PISSED
[02:07] <shadeofgrey> i thgink im going to pussy out and just wait
[02:07] <funkyHat> sdakota, because?
[02:07] <funkyHat> :P
[02:07] <tautau> Hi guys, give me pls HOWTO to configure audio mixing.
[02:07] <sdakota> funkyHat: Bad programmers could change things on their system ... maybe ... you never know, they could mess things up if providing bad binaries (or something)
[02:07] <funkyHat> The problem is, with your system, malicious programmers can still upload malicios code, and even have it automatically packaged for them for various distributions
[02:08] <tautau> The one I used is not working http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[02:08] <wim> i remember reading somewhere that it should be possible to compile FF in 32 bit mode or something to make flash work on my 64 bit os, is this correct=?
[02:08] <antisocial_boris> can anyone help me get my wireless network card working?
[02:08] <shadeofgrey> DONT USE UBUNTUGUIDE
[02:08] <shadeofgrey> its oooooooooooooolllllllllddddddddddddd
[02:08] <tautau> oki I understood this already
[02:08] <sdakota> funkyHat: Yea - that's true, but there could be some volunteers that check source code (there are a lot of people who do that now already)
[02:08] <funkyHat> It's old and was never recommended anyway
[02:09] <tautau> I know but cant find anything better in Google
[02:09] <shadeofgrey> funkyhat:  what do you rthink are the odds that my system will nuke if i go to dapper?  did i mention i haver an nvidia graphics card
[02:09] <funkyHat> shadeofgrey, your FF won't be an issue as you put it in /opt
[02:09] <mojo> shadeofgrey: hey try a small partition and test it, don't blast over your working install if you don't want to risk it yet.
[02:10] <shadeofgrey> well
[02:10] <funkyHat> shadeofgrey, but... dapper less than 2 months old... not frozen yet (am I right?) and likely to be very very buggy
[02:10] <shadeofgrey> yeah true that.  im waiting
[02:10] <tautau> funkyHat, so how should I configure it?
[02:10] <sdakota> funkyHat: I think KDE is already a perfect step in the good way - it is a lot like Windows and has a lot of things that work similar to Windows
[02:10] <grabakov> Hi, I found this channel through the ubuntu support page.
[02:10] <grabakov> I have just installed ubuntu and I am have some problems.
[02:11] <shadeofgrey> my grammer sucked there
[02:11] <funkyHat> I can't really give a definite answer, I upgraded to breezy 2 months before release and had not a single problem, but not everyone had the same luck as me ;)
[02:11] <grabakov> When the install has finished, I get an xwindows error.
[02:11] <shadeofgrey> but whatever i havent slept in 32 hours
[02:11] <mojo> grabakov: yep, this is the right place
[02:11] <miketech> good morning
[02:11] <funkyHat> lol
[02:11] <sdakota> funkyHat: Not that I admire windows .. i'm forced to use it because I sometimes play games too
[02:11] <dylan_> i have the lm-sensors applet enabled.  it says my computer is at about 120 farenheit...what is a dangerous temperature?
[02:11] <grabakov> It states that it cannot load gdm.
[02:11] <sdakota> shadeofgrey, 32 hours? Take a nap! The only time I didn't sleep for (more than) 32 hours is when I went to Canada - couldn't sleep the night before, couldn't sleep in the plane and couldn't sleep there o.O
[02:11] <grabakov> I have no idea where to go from here :(
[02:12] <ndlovu_> how can I check which graphics card I have? cat /proc/pci reveals nothing...
[02:12] <Chousuke> dylan_: What's that in centigrade? ;P
[02:12] <dylan_> Chousuke, no F
[02:12] <tautau> dylan_, convert it to normal temprature, celsius or kelvin
[02:12] <alexissoft> hi
[02:12] <shadeofgrey> sdakota:  nah im good...  i had a few cups of coffee and three cigarettes im ready to write another forty pages on my newst novel
[02:12] <grabakov> mojo, I certainly hope so.
[02:12] <Chousuke> oh, it's about 50 C
[02:12] <funkyHat> tautau, check out the ubuntu wiki, I don't really know how to configure sound properly as my system is a bit... unusual :P
[02:12] <dylan_> tautau, 50.0 C
[02:12] <sdakota> funkyHat: just finished installing Ubuntu in VMWare - could you name me a good IRC client ?
[02:12] <Chousuke> no, it shouldn't be dangerous.
[02:13] <shadeofgrey> i just wissh i could find another person to write with. ive never tagteamed on any fiction and would like to try
[02:13] <funkyHat> sdakota, x-chat
[02:13] <kyncani> ndlovu: use hal-device-manager
[02:13] <tautau> dylan_, its high but normal
[02:13] <shadeofgrey> sdakota:  xchat!
[02:13] <funkyHat> sdakota, I believe it's already installed
[02:13] <sdakota> shadeofgrey, I could try to help you - but I'm not very good at writing novels - in fact, I never tried
[02:13] <grabakov> It is strange, I have installed ubuntu three times now and I get the same error.
[02:13] <tautau> funkyHat, thx
[02:13] <grabakov> Does anybody have an idea?
[02:13] <CarinArr> hey.. has anyone got the dev version of kdevelop4 installed successfully? i'm having some compilation errors I can't quite fix
[02:13] <sdakota> funkyHat, shadeofgrey, ok, relogging in ^^
[02:13] <dylan_> tautau, should i add another fan?
[02:13] <shadeofgrey> grabakov:  what kind of graphics hardware are you using?
[02:14] <mojo> grabakov: what hardware you running?  (esp. graphics card info)
[02:14] <dylan_> tautau, i have a PCI exhaust fan, but it was loud....should i pop it back in?
[02:14] <tautau> Which CPU do U using?
[02:14] <grabakov> shadeofgrey: It's bog-standard radeon crap for laptops.
[02:14] <shadeofgrey> grabakov:  if its ati anything, go buy an nvidia card.  ati linux support blows rancid ardvark balls
[02:14] <ndlovu_> kyncani: thanks :)
[02:14] <kyncani> np
[02:14] <spacey_ki> ati should work fine
[02:14] <shadeofgrey> raedon is the problem.
[02:14] <zparta> is it possible to change the order the kernel loads modules ?
[02:14] <Chousuke> shadeofgrey: older cards work with free drivers.
[02:14] <zparta> i want to have my ite raid controller load before device-mapper
[02:15] <shadeofgrey> ive NEVER seen an ati anythging boot ubuntu successfully
[02:15] <tautau> Mine is AMD they more cold then Intel ovens. About 10 clecius.
[02:15] <grabakov> shadeofgrey: So I won't be able to run Ubuntu on Radeon?
[02:15] <Pls> hm
[02:15] <grabakov> shadeofgrey: not even with drivers?
[02:15] <tautau> dylan_,  I think 50 C is all right
[02:15] <shadeofgrey> grabakov:  in my persdonal opinion, you should ditch the ati shit if you can
[02:15] <shadeofgrey> if you cant
[02:15] <shadeofgrey> try old drivers
[02:16] <grabakov> shadeofgrey, it's a laptop ;)
[02:16] <djm62> I've used ubuntu with an ATI graphics card
[02:16] <shadeofgrey> old  old old
[02:16] <tautau> dylan_, But I have about 30C, 29-33
[02:16] <djm62> but ATI aren't making it easy on themselves
[02:16] <grabakov> djm62, and you did this without incident?
[02:16] <Moodles> i have a crashed fullscreen 3d opengl app, is there a ctrl+alt+delete for ubuntu/gnome
[02:16] <Pls> how to load Ubuntu on SATA hard drives? my installation stops in grub install proccess.. ?
[02:16] <shadeofgrey> moo:  no but theres a button you can assign to your launcher panel  called forcequit
[02:17] <kyncani> Moodles: goto console and kill the app from there ?
[02:17] <funkyHat> sdakota, irc.ubuntu... is freenode btw
[02:17] <rudi__> any specific drivers I should install to get trident cyberblade working properly?
[02:17] <shadeofgrey> Moodles:  right click on the top status bar and select add to panel, select forcequit, and then use it to close the misbehaving app
[02:17] <grabakov> But that's bizarre though - how could they release a product that didn't have support for the most popular gfx brand?
[02:17] <Moodles> i cant see the desktop at all, just the artifacting 3d ap
[02:18] <shadeofgrey> grabakov:  no you have it backwards.  ati hasnt weritten GOOD linux drivers ever
[02:18] <djm62> grabakov: it's not a choice...ati have chosed not to support linux, they are at fault
[02:18] <miketech> hm will Xorg 7.0 be included in Ubuntu dapper?
[02:18] <kyncani> Moodles: go to console (ctrl+alt+f1)
[02:18] <grabakov> Wow. I have always supported ATI... I had no idea.
[02:18] <shadeofgrey> grabakov: thats why they suck rancid ardvark balls from here to wherevver and back again
[02:18] <grabakov> ardvark ey? ;)
[02:18] <grabakov> Where are you from shadeofgrey?
[02:18] <shadeofgrey> if you wanna run linux buy nvidia
[02:19] <shadeofgrey> grabakov:  usa.
[02:19] <djm62> grabakov: they'll support it as soon as it boosts profits, which will be a couple of years, most likely
[02:19] <Chousuke> shadeofgrey: OR and older Radeon that works with the Free drivers.
[02:19] <grabakov> shadeofgrey, then I need a new computer...
[02:19] <Chousuke> :P
[02:19] <Chousuke> What radeon do you have?
[02:19] <Chousuke> an*
[02:19] <Chousuke> :P
[02:19] <frogzoo> any ideas why my qemu xp install stops when the window loses focus?
[02:19] <shadeofgrey> or like chousuke said...  use the free drivers
[02:19] <grabakov> Chousuke, never bothered to check... one sec
[02:19] <u|qos> is there a possibility to get an overview about all running transfers of vsftpd`?
[02:20] <Nomikos>
[02:20] <grabakov> Chousuke, XPRESS 200M
[02:20] <Chousuke> ok, wtf is that. :P
[02:20] <zparta> is it possible to change the order the kernel loads modules ?
[02:20] <grabakov> Chousuke, hahaha... well, that's my problem really...
[02:20] <Chousuke> is it like 9250 or older?
[02:20] <Chousuke> ;P
[02:20] <grabakov> It's a mobile card...
[02:21] <funkyHat> ack
[02:21] <shadeofgrey> i want a 30" cinema display...  i want one so bad id sell a kidney to get one
[02:21] <Chousuke> arfg
[02:21] <funkyHat> That always makes me laugh
[02:21] <kyncani> zparta: /etc/modules i believe
[02:21] <funkyHat> how can 30" be compared to a Cinema?
[02:21] <grabakov> Chousuke, will, umm... free drivers still work?
[02:21] <Chousuke> those  would be deadly to your neck.
[02:21] <Nomikos> i did some backup'ing and partitioning under OS X on the same disk that has the Ubuntu partition (but didn't touch that knowingly), and now booting back into linux i get "/pci@[etcetcetc] disk@1:12,/boot/vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem". am i up the proverbial creek without a paddle?
[02:21] <Chousuke> grabakov: try.
[02:21] <grabakov> Chousuke, well of course :p
[02:21] <shadeofgrey> nomasteryoda|w:  uh...  prolly
[02:22] <shadeofgrey> nomik:  uh prolly
[02:22] <Chousuke> anyway.
[02:22] <Chousuke> I think I might go to the store now.
[02:22] <funkyHat> Guys.... I thought that ATI did work no problem without acceleration (a bit of a downer I know, but better than having no X)
[02:22] <Nomikos> shadeofgrey: botheration. suggestions on how to recover some of the data?
[02:22] <zparta> kyncani: when is that file read ?
[02:22] <shadeofgrey> Nomikos:  pray?
[02:23] <Chousuke> funkyHat: yeah it does.
[02:23] <shadeofgrey> Nomikos:  well... wait...  what version of os-x is it?
[02:23] <djm62> zparta: if you want to rearrange the order in which all the modules are loaded, /etc/modules, if you want to load a module before a bit of the init, /etc/init.d and the things that link to it (put a spare script in)
[02:23] <funkyHat> I use Nvidia anyways ;)
[02:23] <Nomikos> shadeofgrey: 10.3.9 so latest panther. tried mounting the partitions on that, but not much luck.. not 100% sure i'm doing it right though
[02:23] <Moodles> is there any linux opengl benchmarkers, like 3dmark for windows?
[02:24] <u|qos> is there a possibility to get an overview about all running transfers of vsftpd`?
[02:24] <djm62> funkyHat: how annoying are the proprietary drivers?
[02:24] <Nomikos> shadeofgrey: disk utility won't mount them, terminal... "mount =r /dev/disk1s12" should that do it?
[02:24] <Nomikos> *-r
[02:24] <shadeofgrey> Nomikos:  if you were running tiger id say you have a prayer of a chance...  but panther is very doubtful
[02:24] <kyncani> zparta: in /etc/modutils and /etc/module-init-tools i think
[02:24] <frogzoo> Nomikos: I'd try reinstalling grub from the looks of things - you might if you know what you're doing get grub to boot from the command line too - try 'find boot'
[02:24] <zparta> djm62: i want to load a ide controller before the device-mapper
[02:25] <LoppApan> u|qos: try ftpwho or ftpstats, don't remember which one works
[02:25] <grabakov> Alright, I managed to find the drivers - one problem though, lynx doesn't come with Ubuntu for some reason so I don't think I'll be able to download these!! :(
[02:25] <BooZee> what is "talkback" ?
[02:25] <shadeofgrey> nomikos:  do you have backups of important stuff?  if so, then yeah try it.  thats like your only shot
[02:25] <funkyHat> djm62, I just sudo apt-get insall nvidia-glx :P
[02:25] <mojo> grabakov: sry man i had to step out & give the puppy some lovin (she just woke up).  I too have ATI (Radeon 9800XT) in a desktop though.  I have probs witht the latest linux driver from ATI (fglrx), but I believe that the install should be giving you the open-source driver (ati), not the closed-source one.  Of course you can change this post install ;-)
[02:25] <funkyHat> (and then that other command that I forget right now...
[02:25] <shadeofgrey> djm62:  yeah but theres another step
[02:25] <funkyHat> )
[02:26] <shadeofgrey> djm62:  you have to type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:26] <grabakov> mojo, how might I do that?
[02:26] <funkyHat> that's the one
[02:26] <u|qos> LoppApan: i am root, but these command were not found...
[02:26] <mojo> grab 'sudo apt-get install lynx' methinks
[02:26] <funkyHat> then ctrl+alt+backspace and you're there :)
[02:26] <mojo> grabakov:  'sudo apt-get install lynx' methinks
[02:26] <frogzoo> for my money (no mac expert) I'd say Nomikos's data is all still there - just looks like grub's got itself confused
[02:26] <funkyHat> (after logging in again cos that just killed X)
[02:26] <Nomikos> shadeofgrey: if i had them, i'd be reinstalling now :-/ frogzoo: pointers on grub? i'm a bit of a amateur
[02:26] <jenda_busy> Does anyone know how to use SVN?
[02:26] <Pls> Heloo, how to load Ubuntu on SATA hard drives? my installation stops in grub install proccess.. ?
[02:26] <grabakov> mojo, yes, alright, but you mentione that the drivers are there right?
[02:27] <sdakota> can't connect to irc.freenode.net
[02:27] <grabakov> mojo, or did I misunderstand?
[02:27] <funkyHat> sdakota, chat.freenode.net
[02:27] <sdakota> <IP_ADDRESS>:6667 can't connect
[02:27] <Nomikos> sdakota: http://freenode.net/news.shtml
[02:27] <funkyHat> check out www.freenode.net for reasons
[02:27] <shadeofgrey> sdakota:  they've been having shit trouble with hackers.  use chat.freenode.net for timebeing
[02:27] <djm62> jenda_busy: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
[02:27] <frogzoo> Nomikos: if you have a disk that will boot grub - try 'find boot'
[02:27] <mojo> grabakov: well, the short answer is 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' I believe.     Thank you for your help, bbias
[02:29] <sdakota_> sdakota, sure
[02:29] <mojo> grabakov: you can try 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE | more' to see the EError messages, and replace EE with WW for the WWarnings.
[02:29] <pmab> bleh, ive just installed ubuntu from dvd, but i cant connect to anything online except this irc server and the ubuntu site/wiki, any ideas?
[02:30] <Chousuke> pmab: weird.
[02:30] <sdakota> M00
[02:30] <sdakota> Eah ! Linux!!
[02:30] <shadeofgrey> pmab:  that makes no sense.
[02:30] <pmab> i know :(
[02:30] <Nomikos> frogzoo: none found :/ would it be on a Ubuntu install disk?
[02:30] <frogzoo> pmab: ping www.yahoo.com
[02:30] <djm62> pmab: what do you get if you try to ping google? what about trying to ping your router?
[02:30] <shadeofgrey> pmab:  if you can see the wiki then you should be able to go anywhere
[02:30] <pmab> pinging google works..
[02:31] <pmab> just not in firefox
[02:31] <frogzoo> pmab: does ff return? or just spin?
[02:31] <djm62> pmab: have you got any other browsers to try with?
[02:31] <pmab> just spin
[02:31] <pmab> and ive got a winxp box beside it on the same router so its not the net
[02:31] <acid2> hey, is it possible to get fonts this crisp? http://gnome-look.org/content/pre2/26757-2.png
[02:31] <djm62> pmab: telnet www.google.com 80
[02:31] <acid2> and if so - how?
[02:32] <Nomikos> or.. would a Ubuntu install/other disk help in other ways? then i'd be burning one shortly..
[02:32] <pmab> djm62, that connects
[02:32] <frogzoo> pmab: are you dhcp'ing the linux box? & correctlY? different ip to the xp box?
[02:32] <pmab> yeah should be, i'll check ips again
[02:32] <frogzoo> Nomikos: I use RIP - but that's just me
[02:32] <djm62> pmab: well then, at least you web browing needs are taken care of ;)
[02:33] <Nomikos> frogzoo: sounds comforting :-) what is it?
[02:33] <djm62> pmab: have you done any experimental firewalling stuff?
[02:33] <taomaster> how can i install apps in this new ubuntu (dapper)?
[02:33] <pmab> nope
[02:33] <frogzoo> Nomikos: recover is possible - set of recovery utils - but it comes with grub so's u can boot
[02:33] <pmab> its default install, then ive patched up
[02:34] <pmab> didnt work either side of it
[02:34] <djm62> pmab: sounds like a network issue, but I can't understand where...it's a default breezy install (plus non-net-related packages)?
[02:34] <Nomikos> frogzoo: do you have time/energy to walk me though a few things? otherwise i guess i should try to read the docs on grub..?
[02:35] <Stormx> Why is it, that when a page tries to open a popup, firefox will say "Firefox has stopped a popup opening on this page ..." but the popup will open anyway?!
[02:35] <djm62> pmab: if you do a GET when you telnet www.google.com 80, do you get the homepage?
[02:35] <pmab> nah it disconnects me
[02:35] <frogzoo> Nomikos: well, if I'm here, I'm here - get your hands on grub & we'll see
[02:36] <frogzoo> pmab: did telnet 80 work?
[02:37] <pmab> it connected, but typing anything dropped the connection
[02:37] <Vincent> KDevDesigner always crash at startup
[02:37] <Vincent> anybody with the same problem ?
[02:37] <frogzoo> pmab: google has a redirect as standard - so I think you're good there - try 'telnet www.yahoo.com 80' - & then 'GET /'
[02:38] <Vincent> (I run KDE)
[02:38] <sdakota> the linux version of vmware... can I already play 3D games in it already (if I install Windows in it)?
[02:38] <sdakota> I mean, in Workstation v5
[02:38] <pmab> hmm not working at all now, getting "Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[02:38] <pmab> "
[02:38] <jenda_busy> djm62: OK - I guess that doesn't really help me. I want to test a project, and I checked it out. now I suppose I need to compile it. How would I do that? (I'm guessing this might no longer have to do with svn)
[02:39] <grabakov> mojo, how weird...
[02:39] <frogzoo> sdakota: haven't done it - but believe so - it will run like a dog however
[02:39] <lucasvo> jenda_busy: read the readme
[02:39] <grabakov> mojo, now apt-get obviously needs su status, right? Well, Ubuntu setup didn't ask me to define the root password...
[02:39] <lucasvo> jenda_busy: then, try ./configure && make && sudo make install
[02:39] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: of svn?
[02:39] <djm62> jenda_busy: there are usually files like README and INSTALL, or HACKING
[02:39] <lucasvo> jenda_busy: of you checkedout source
[02:39] <frogzoo> pmab: ping all your DNS servers mentioned in /etc/resolv.conf
[02:40] <djm62> grabakov: this is because ubuntu doesn't have a root passwd
[02:40] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: I did.
[02:40] <lucasvo> jenda_busy: what's written in it?
[02:40] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: Where do I find it?
[02:40] <sdakota> frogzoo: why?
[02:40] <grabakov> djm62, that's impossible. How would su priviledged services like apt-get and crontab work?
[02:41] <lucasvo> jenda_busy: in you checkedout sourcetree there shourld be file like README and INSTALL, or HACKING
[02:41] <pmab> both fine, one is 1.23ms and one is 27ms
[02:41] <frogzoo> pmab: and then telnet 80 yahoo
[02:41] <djm62> grabakov: using sudo...root exists, but there is no password to crack
[02:41] <pmab> does the search line need to be something useful?
[02:41] <grabakov> djm62, I -did- use sudo
[02:41] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: but where do I find the checked out sourcetree?
[02:41] <frogzoo> pmab: nope
[02:41] <djm62> ubotu: tell grabakov about rootsudo
[02:41] <pmab> nope, still looking at <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:42] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: ah found it...
[02:42] <grabakov> "Thus when Synaptic or something similar asks you for a password, it is asking for your user password, not the root password."
[02:42] <grabakov> I tried that - didn't work.
[02:43] <djm62> pmab: what is your network likes
[02:43] <frogzoo> pmab: tracepath www.yahoo.com
[02:43] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: Ah OK - now i have the python sources. What do I do now?
[02:43] <djm62> grabakov: are you absolutely certain that you're entering the user passwd (no changed configuration, i18n mixups, capitals, etc)?
[02:43] <pmab> djm62, 1 adsl modem then a router, its worked fine with everything else ive thrown at it though
[02:44] <grabakov> djm62, correct.
[02:44] <boldstrike> grabakov: it didn't work for me at first either...try again
[02:44] <pmab> frogzoo, seems ok to hop 14 then no replies
[02:44] <grabakov> boldstrike: so, for no reason soever, it just "started working" ?
[02:44] <djm62> grabakov: are you the first or only user on the system?
[02:44] <acid2> hey, is it possible to get fonts this crisp? http://gnome-look.org/content/pre2/26757-2.png
[02:44] <grabakov> djm62 *nods*
[02:44] <acid2> and if so - how?
[02:45] <boldstrike> grabakov: that's right. the first couple of times it didn't work for some strange reason. then, it just worked. i have no idea why. this is the second install i've done and it did the same thing last time.
[02:45] <lucasvo> jenda_busy: is there some file like install or readme?
[02:45] <grabakov> boldstrike, well, I guess i'll try again. thanks. bbias
[02:45] <frogzoo> pmab: can you ping google?
[02:46] <pmab> yes: 64 bytes from www.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=234 time=47.7 ms
[02:46] <frogzoo> pmab: &/or yahoo?
[02:46] <djm62> acid2: mine seem to look like that...
[02:46] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: Nope...
[02:46] <lucasvo> jenda_busy: try python setup
[02:46] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: There are readme files, but they are in the .svn dirs
[02:46] <pmab> lookup works in network tools too
[02:46] <djm62> acid2: you can choose your fonts, and how they are rendered, to look their best on your hardware
[02:47] <frogzoo> pmab: can you ping www.yahoo.com ?
[02:47] <lucasvo> jenda_busy: no you need them in the root dir
[02:47] <pmab> yes: 64 bytes from www.yahoo.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=107 ms
[02:47] <frogzoo> pmab: now tracepath www.yahoo.com
[02:48] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: Obviously. Nevermind - I'll ask the project's devs once they wake up :)
[02:48] <djm62> pmab: but if you type in www.yahoo.com to firefox, you get nothing? what if you type http://<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[02:48] <jenda_busy> lucasvo: It's EasyUbuntu (https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu)
[02:49] <pmab> djm62, both bring up "yahoo!" as the title, but then dont display anything else (loading anim)
[02:50] <frogzoo> pmab: try 'shift refresh"
[02:50] <_jason> acid2, system -> prefs -> fonts, mine look like that too.  I have subpixel smooting on (If you have an LCD you should use that)
[02:50] <djm62> pmab: wget www.google.com (I'm not sure if wget is on the default install)
[02:50] <acid2> _jason, right, I've done that
[02:50] <acid2> But its still a bit more blurry than that
[02:51] <grabakov> No kidding - it works.
[02:51] <acid2> djm62, what font/smoothing style do you use?
[02:51] <pmab> wget google resolved to <IP_ADDRESS> :(, but wget yahoo.com worked, got index.html
[02:51] <grabakov> okay *rubs hands together* time to get drivers.
[02:51] <_jason> details for subpixel smoothing: 96dpi, subpixel, full, RGB
[02:51] <_jason> acid2, ^
[02:51] <djm62> pmab: can you rerun dhclient on your main interface?
[02:51] <acid2> same as me then - which font?
[02:52] <acid2> also, which font engine? freetype?
[02:52] <_jason> acid2, Sans
[02:52] <acid2> righto
[02:52] <_jason> acid2, monospace for terminal
[02:52] <djm62> acid2: subpixel smoothing, sans
[02:52] <pmab> djm62, how?
[02:52] <_jason> acid2, how would I check my font engine?
[02:52] <acid2> you'd know if you've installed another _jason  :)
[02:53] <djm62> pmab: from a terminal, sudo dhclient eth0 (or whatever your main interface is called)
[02:53] <zparta> does ubuntu requier me to have everything as modules or can i build a custom kernel with only the stuff needed for my machine builtin and no modules
[02:53] <_jason> acid2, I guess default then
[02:53] <acid2> well thanks for the info both :)
[02:53] <pmab> ah ok
[02:53] <pmab> done
[02:53] <djm62> acid2: maybe try high contrast?
[02:53] <pmab> seems to have bound to the right ip
[02:53] <_jason> acid2, my font size is 10, I notice that at different sizes it's not as crisp
[02:53] <djm62> pmab: restart firefox to start clean
[02:54] <acid2> _jason, ya
[02:54] <djm62> acid2: could it be your subpixel order?
[02:54] <acid2> im using rgb too
[02:54] <pmab> djm62, done, its got as far as the favicon now
[02:54] <acid2> i'll play with the others
[02:55] <cold> anyone knows what ubuntu runs on port 1026 and 1027
[02:56] <djm62> only thing is openoffice doesn't kern very nicely
[02:56] <acid2> sorry
[02:56] <acid2> xchat crahsed _
[02:56] <simonvallore> Hello how do i apply icon themes ?
[02:56] <Bader> hi
[02:56] <grabakov> *whimper* this isn't working. How do I apt-get those linux drivers again please?
[02:57] <frogzoo> grabakov: which drivers?
[02:57] <grabakov> frogzoo: Linux driver for ATI
[02:57] <Luuraja_> hya
[02:57] <frogzoo> grabakov: you can choose the 'ati' or 'fglrx'
[02:58] <frogzoo> !tell grabakov about ati
[02:58] <grabakov> frogzoo: sorry, that went way over my head.
[02:58] <odat> anyone have any experience with lirc?
[02:58] <Luuraja_> does there be a special list for edubuntu?
[02:58] <frogzoo> grabakov: read the msg from ubotu
[02:58] <grabakov> frogzoo: right, I saw it.
[02:58] <simonvallore> Hello how do i apply grub themes ect ect ?
[02:59] <Muldy> you mean the grub splash screen
[02:59] <frogzoo> simonvallore: easiest imo is install 'gnome-art' pkg
[02:59] <djm62> acid2: what about the resolution of your monitor? dpi?
[03:00] <odat> anyone have any experience with lirc?
[03:00] <mojo> grabakov: hi again!  so you booting in and out to try stuff?  I see while I been AFK you come and go. What's your status?
[03:02] <lucasvo> how can I re-autoconfigure Xorg?
[03:02] <grabakov> mojo: well, currently, I got apt-get to function
[03:02] <grabakov> mojo: But I am still trying to get ahold of the linux drivers
[03:03] <mojo> grabakov: thats good.  did you see my post about the Xorg log files?
[03:03] <ddaa> lucasvo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:03] <odat> lucasvo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserfer-xorg
[03:03] <grabakov> mojo: No.
[03:03] <djm62> lucasvo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg
[03:03] <odat> xserver  lol
[03:03] <odat> sorry
[03:03] <ddaa> odat: :P
[03:03] <djm62> xserver-xorg
[03:03] <sgm> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:03] <ddaa> lucasvo: you've got all the information there, in bits :)
[03:03] <djm62> new X.org! new gnome!
[03:03] <Zeep> How can I configure the NTP client? Where can I find the configuration file? Thanks
[03:04] <mojo> grabakov: ok then.  'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE|more' will print the (EE)rror lines from the log, and substituting WW for EE will give you the (WW)arning lines.  that should give you some notion of X's sanity level
[03:04] <odat> anyone have any experience with lirc?
[03:04] <soundray> Zeep, /etc/default/ntpdate
[03:04] <grabakov> mojo: lets do that.
[03:04] <Zeep> soundray: Thanks
[03:05] <ddaa> Zeep: generally, look at /etc/init.d/ntpdate to see exactly what's happening
[03:05] <fbafelipe> how do I change dhcp's lease time?
[03:06] <Zeep> ddaa: Okay, thanks, too :-)
[03:06] <fbafelipe> It's set to 5 mins, however my modem is using lease time of one month
[03:06] <grabakov> mojo: typed the command verbatim, here is the response: log: no such file or directory
[03:06] <lucasvo> ddaa: thanks
[03:06] <mojo> grab right on.  i will try to stay nearby.  it's saturday, smoked a morning doob w/ my bro, readin offa the linux home page aggregate, chillin to the dead from 10-29-1977, helpin folks... what a good morning
[03:06] <grabakov> mojo: wait, silly me.
[03:07] <mojo> grabakov: i didn't cut n paste, i coulda typoed
[03:07] <grabakov> mojo: I am typing this from console to console - semantic error.
[03:07] <djm62> fbafelipe: I think that's up to your router
[03:07] <mojo> grabakov: np :D
[03:07] <sdakota> hi
[03:07] <sdakota> again ^^
[03:07] <cliebow__> fbafelipe: cant you just vi /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[03:08] <fbafelipe> djm62: My router is using the lease time of one month, Ubuntu is using 5 minutes...
[03:08] <fbafelipe> cliebow_: thanks, I will try it.
[03:08] <cliebow__> then restartr dhcp
[03:08] <grabakov> mojo: Okay... it mentions that WW, EE and NI are not implemented.
[03:08] <Nomikos> frogzoo: people tell me grub isn't useful on OSX, and tell me to use Yaboot. attempting to boot into Ubuntu shows a Yaboot prompt thing as well. is this helpful?
[03:09] <sdakota> could someone here help me with my NameVirtualHost problem?
[03:09] <ddaa> grub not working on macs
[03:09] <mojo> grabakov: they are.  it just says that.  that should mean that you have NO EError lines.  Try with WW and see if you get any.  If you like, remove the "grep EE|" and see it all unfiltered, paginated with 'more'
[03:09] <ddaa> gotta use yaboot for openfirmware love
[03:09] <grabakov> mojo: then it goes on to say: "(ee) Radeon(0): [dri]  driscreeninit failed. disabling dri
[03:09] <oskude> you can also boot linux with macs Open Firmware...
[03:09] <sdakota> could someone here help me with my NameVirtualHost problem on Apache?
[03:09] <Nomikos> ddaa: ok, there now :-) any pointers?
[03:10] <grabakov> mojo: Okay, with WW now...
[03:10] <soundray> fbafelipe, you need to describe your setup in more detail to really get useful advice.
[03:10] <grabakov> mojo: There is a lot of text now.
[03:10] <mojo> grabakov: okay, so you are getting some warnings.  i am not up on what the dri (direct rendering interface?) part gives or takes from the whole picture.
[03:10] <grabakov> mojo: what immediately strikes me is "failed to detect monitor"
[03:11] <ddaa> Nomikos: what kind of pointer? The ubutu installer will install yaboot for you. It needs a special HFS partion (about one MB). Also, you should have your kernel on a ext2/3 fs because yaboot does not know the more exotic filesystems (e.g. xfs).
[03:11] <soundray> fbafelipe, are you connecting through a router?
[03:11] <mojo> grabakov: you familiar with pastelink?
[03:11] <grabakov> mojo: Oh! And it mentions a number of directories that supposedly "don't exist"
[03:11] <grabakov> mojo: I am not.
[03:11] <fbafelipe> soundray: I am connecting from ADSL
[03:11] <mojo> grabakov: hmm... okay.  brb with pastelink info (oh the suspense!)
[03:11] <soundray> fbafelipe, and how is your modem connected to the computer, USB or Ethernet?
[03:12] <oskude> is there an ubuntu version for nokia 770 ? :)
[03:12] <grabakov> mojo: hahaha. You've made my night ;)
[03:12] <Determinist> oskude, doubt it. but if you send me your nokia i'll be sure to try :P
[03:12] <Nomikos> ddaa: i seem to have messed up the boot partition somehow, yaboot says "Unknown or corrupt filesystem". people said to use grub to get it to mount in another way, and when i couldn't use that, well, yaboot. i'd be happy to just get the data off somehow..
[03:12] <fbafelipe> sondray: ethernet
[03:12] <odat> anyone have any experience with lirc?
[03:13] <soundray> oskude, I don't think so. Better chance with Debian.
[03:13] <oskude> Determinist, :) (i havent boutgh it yet)
[03:13] <soundray> fbafelipe, does your modem act as a DHCP server?
[03:13] <ddaa> Nomikos: does that system ever boot since you intalled it? (just checking it's not something like the kernel on a fs yaboot does not know about)
[03:13] <Determinist> oskude, figured since i think it hasnt been released yet.
[03:13] <LjL> ops: i'm being asked why <IP_ADDRESS> is banned
[03:14] <mojo> grabakov: ha ha ha okay my bad it is called pastebin.  www.pastebin.org will let you paste your files.  after submitting, it takes you to a page with a URL that you cane paste in this chat and I can go examine your files myself
[03:14] <fbafelipe> soundray: yes, in the configuration page of the modem it's says that lease time is set to one month
[03:14] <Nomikos> ddaa: been running happily for months - until i formatted some other partitions of the same disk under OS X
[03:14] <oskude> soundray, of course. debian for 770 :) (as 770 dont need that "auto-config" magic of ubuntu )
[03:14] <grabakov> mojo: mrreehokay. Let me do that quick.
[03:14] <mojo> grabakov: if you are chatting from a different computer, then just use a floppy or something quick n easy to transfer them
[03:15] <soundray> fbafelipe, I think you may be confusing two levels of DHCP assignments.
[03:15] <grabakov> mojo: no, it's the same one - just a different console. And this site is incorrect. :D
[03:15] <soundray> fbafelipe, your router gets an address from your ISP every few weeks, that's fine.
[03:15] <grabakov> mojo: "Find your Domain Names Today!"
[03:15] <oskude> i just read that 770 is debian based :)
[03:15] <soundray> fbafelipe, now if your computer gets an address from your modem every 5 minutes, that should be fine, too.
[03:15] <ddaa> Nomikos: mh... I suggest you try booting with the live cd, then mount your root, chroot to it, and fix what you have to. That will probably involve running ybin (the utility that configures yaboot and installs the MBR)
[03:16] <ddaa> Nomikos: does that make sense?
[03:16] <soundray> oskude, but I think it lacks the package management stuff.
[03:16] <nubuntu> Help! "Qt installation not detected." Cannot figure out how to install Qt.
[03:16] <oskude> soundray, :(
[03:16] <hmpedersen> Is there a dvd player for ubuntu that isnt named totem?
[03:16] <mojo> grabakov: the two main files i'll want to see are /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:16] <fbafelipe> soundray: but there are three comuters connected on this modem...
[03:16] <Nomikos> ddaa: i got as far as "mount your root" :-) but i have to download the livecd first, anyhow
[03:16] <oskude> soundray, well, i wait atleast till voip is in it, then ill think of buying one :)
[03:16] <soundray> fbafelipe, maybe we should start the other way round. What is the problem you are trying to solve?
[03:17] <mojo> grab sorry... it is .com not .org
[03:17] <ddaa> Nomikos: when fixing up a system, "chroot" is a very useful command. "man chroot" to learn about it.
[03:17] <fbafelipe> soundray: and the configuration for each IP is different
[03:17] <Nomikos> ddaa: thanks, will do
[03:17] <ddaa> also, read the yaboot documentation and learn about "ybin".
[03:17] <nubuntu> How do I install Qt? Anyone?
[03:17] <fbafelipe> soundray: Ubuntu is changing the IP sometimes...
[03:18] <grabakov> mojo: pastebin.com ,the site google presents me with, informs me that it cannot be displayed.
[03:18] <Muldy> nubuntu, search qt using synaptic first. and install the one that looks most like the qt library
[03:18] <mojo> grabakov: let me guess, you're using text-browser?
[03:18] <ddaa> nubuntu: most likely, you are asking because you are trying to build some Qt app from source.
[03:18] <nubuntu> Muldy, did that. Then I installed all packages I could think of relating to Qt...
[03:19] <fbafelipe> soundray: so i get the port configuration of another IP
[03:19] <grabakov> mojo: I can't access X after all ;)
[03:19] <ddaa> nubuntu: so you'll need the *-dev packages as well.
[03:19] <soundray> fbafelipe, so you have Ubuntu on one of three machines. What's on the other two?
[03:19] <nubuntu> ddaa, building from source right :)
[03:19] <mojo> grabakov: you are right,though. it is actually http://pastebin.com  with no www
[03:19] <helter> hello, can anybody recommend a tool for designing webs? Something like dreamweaver but in linux and open-source
[03:19] <fbafelipe> soundray: the others have windows (one use win98 and the other winXP)
[03:19] <grabakov> mojo: Yeah.
[03:19] <oskude> helter, ive heard about "nvu", but never tested...
[03:19] <ProN00b> is there any tool that lists you internet streams ? (preferably video)
[03:19] <ddaa> helter: there's nothing nearly as good a dreamweaver in the free software world.
[03:20] <ddaa> helter: you could try things like nvu and bluefish though.
[03:20] <helter> mmm...
[03:20] <soundray> fbafelipe, and which one is the DHCP server? Or is it the router?
[03:20] <mojo> grabakov: yep right on.  okay maybe a private channel between us so you don't flood the #ubuntu channel then?
[03:20] <fbafelipe> soundray: the server is the router
[03:20] <helter> alright thanks guys. I'll give them a try.
[03:20] <nubuntu> hard to find out what package I need to install Qt. searching synaptic results in lot of possibilities
[03:20] <mojo> grabakov: or is there a way to send files with irc?
[03:20] <soundray> fbafelipe, okay, then you need to configure the DHCP server in the router for a longer lease time.
[03:21] <bigfoot1> does gimp have an irc/chat room?
[03:21] <oskude> ProN00b, dont know any good lists, but i watch this often www.demoscene.tv
[03:21] <grabakov> mojo: I'm there.
[03:21] <oskude> nubuntu, try "apt-cache search qtlib" then you only need to know which version you need
[03:21] <grabakov> mojo: I opened a query window with you.
[03:21] <mojo> i'm not though.. :(  sais waiting on you still ?!?
[03:21] <funkyHat|away> wow... sound on gizmo is awful... although it could just be the echo test service
[03:22] <fbafelipe> soundray: but in the router configuration page, it's says the the lease time is 2592000 (30 days)
[03:22] <nubuntu> oskude, will do
[03:22] <grabakov> mojo: ?
[03:22] <soundray> fbafelipe, you are looking a the period of the ISP lease.
[03:22] <oskude> bigfoot1, try "/join #gimp"
[03:22] <feelmjawlk> Hi everyone! Beeing new to linux I can't get my new sound card (Soundblaster Audigy 4) to work under Ubuntu. I've been searching the forums and the web for hours and trying to solve the problem, but I've had no luck so far. Typing lspci in a terminal gives me this line:0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0008
[03:22] <mojo> i am here... perplexed.  it never saw your acknowledgement.  can you try initiating with me?
[03:22] <soundray> fbafelipe, I think.
[03:23] <ddaa> nubuntu: a safe bet would be "kde-devel" I think. Probably vastly overkill, but hey...
[03:23] <bigfoot1> oskude: thank you!
[03:23] <soundray> fbafelipe, what make and model of router is it?
[03:23] <grabakov> mojo: I already have a window open.
[03:23] <fbafelipe> soundray: I don't think the problem is in the router, when I was using slackware it used to work correcly
[03:23] <grabakov> mojo: let me try again...
[03:23] <nubuntu> ddaa, Willing to install ALL packages  to get it working :)
[03:23] <mojo> grabakov: you wanna initiate this time?
[03:24] <grabakov> mojo: I have tried already - you can't seem to se me.
[03:24] <Muldy> does breezy default to dhcp client 2 or 3?
[03:24] <ddaa> nubuntu: also, apt-file is your friend when looking for the package that contains that specific header or lib file your are missing.
[03:24] <nubuntu> ok
[03:24] <deus_> hello there
[03:24] <grabakov> mojo: I'll pass the torch to you - I really don't know my way around irssi
[03:24] <mcpatriot> OJ
[03:25] <fbafelipe> soundray: the model is GS-R259S
[03:25] <bigfoot1> can someone who's got any experience with gimp help me to some basic image editing (I want to clear the background, so that only the object in the center remains).
[03:25] <noggie> hello guys
[03:25] <soundray> fbafelipe, try configuring the lease time in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[03:25] <deus_> can anyone help me ? need to know how to change primary display adapter
[03:25] <grabakov> mojo: or... I guess I could just host a channel?
[03:25] <feelmjawlk> Would anyone with experience in soundcard configuration like to help me out? I would appreciate it a bunch
[03:25] <mojo> grabakov: ah well what the heyy..  try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and see if it's text-browser friendly
[03:26] <mojo> grabakov: yeah sure
[03:26] <noggie> on Ubuntu Breezy i can listen to local MP3 files just fine with XMMS, but when i add an url for a live stream, it does not add the source and nothing happens
[03:26] <grabakov> #mojograba
[03:26] <noggie> any ideas please?
[03:26] <ddaa> deus_: looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and reading "man xorg.conf" should be a good way to start.
[03:26] <Stormx2> :O Ubuntu just locked up!
[03:26] <ddaa> deus_: xorg configuration is still very painful
[03:26] <Stormx2> !xorg
[03:26] <ubotu> I heard xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:26] <fbafelipe> soundray: ok, I will try it, thank you
[03:26] <gordon> hello
[03:27] <Stormx2> Hi
[03:27] <oskude> bigfoot1, try the "eraser" tool
[03:27] <feelmjawlk> Hi
[03:27] <bigfoot1> oskude: that's the manual/long way.
[03:27] <gordon> just very nuew with ubunt
[03:27] <deus_> ddaa damn, thx i hope i needn't to to it that way :/
[03:27] <bigfoot1> oskude: i believe there's a better way.... letting the computer do the work.
[03:27] <oskude> bigfoot1, there was a plugin... forgot the name... sec googling
[03:28] <deus_> bye
[03:28] <soundray> bigfoot1, is there anything that distinguishes your foreground from your background object? Color?
[03:28] <gordon> need help with sound
[03:28] <feelmjawlk> Gordon
[03:28] <ddaa> deus_: you can probably google for "xorg.conf" and your video adapter model to  find some voodoo. Of course, only if "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is of no help.
[03:28] <Stormx2> gordon: OK, Whats the problem?
[03:28] <soundray> bigfoot1, it's been a while since I did this, but I'll try and help...
[03:28] <oskude> bigfoot1, you mean this ? http://www.siox.org/
[03:28] <feelmjawlk> gordon: we have someyhing in common
[03:28] <ddaa> blah...
[03:28] <feelmjawlk> what is your problem?
[03:29] <bigfoot1> oskude: yeah that website seems to show what i'm looking for.
[03:29] <oskude> bigfoot1, but i never used it, so dunno how to install it (maybe its allread installed?)
[03:29] <Stormx2> !sound
[03:29] <ubotu> sound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:29] <Stormx2> ^^Use that as a first guide for debugging sound problems.^^
[03:29] <gordon> Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[03:29] <feelmjawlk> mine is that I can't get any sound from my new soundcard: a soundblaster audigy 4
[03:29] <gordon> that is what i get
[03:29] <feelmjawlk> I have already been there
[03:29] <gordon> when i click on a audio link
[03:30] <fbafelipe> soundray: ok, i edited the file, how do i restart dhcp?
[03:30] <noggie> i dont have sound problems
[03:30] <soundray> bigfoot1, there is also http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/, but it refers to an older GIMP version.
[03:30] <noggie> the sound works fine. and local mp3 work fine also. its the live streaming
[03:30] <feelmjawlk> gordon: ubuntuguide.org
[03:30] <soundray> fbafelipe, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:30] <wim> I'm using hoary, can i upgrade to breezy without burning the cd image? in other words, can i update via internet?
[03:31] <feelmjawlk> I had also fd://0 problem
[03:31] <gordon> ok thx
[03:31] <gordon> i will look at that
[03:31] <soundray> wim, yes, just update your repositories (replace 'hoary' with 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[03:31] <bigfoot1> guys, i have gimp version 2.2 on my system. I would like to get version 2.3  because of an integrated tool (plugin). How do i go about upgrading my gimp?
[03:31] <Stormx2> !ubuntuguide
[03:31] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[03:31] <wim> soundray, cheers
[03:31] <oskude> bigfoot1, gimp 2.3.x seems to have siox built in..
[03:32] <bigfoot1> oskude: that's why i want to get 2.3
[03:32] <bigfoot1> so how do i go about upgrading from gimp 2.2 to 2.3 or better?
[03:32] <noggie> Stormx2, to whom is all these bot triggers directed?
[03:32] <oskude> bigfoot1, ill try the 2.2 plugin...
[03:32] <pmab> hey
[03:32] <fbafelipe> soundray: done, now it's wait to see if it will work, thank you for the help
[03:33] <simonvallore> !SEEN SIMONVALLORE
[03:33] <ubotu> simonvallore is currently on #ubuntu (36m 33s)
[03:33] <simonvallore> !SEEN ubotu
[03:33] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'ubotu', simonvallore
[03:33] <pmab> djm62, i got it working :)
[03:33] <feelmjawlk> Is anyone experienced with hardware troubleshooting, and would like to take a look on my case?
[03:33] <oskude> anyone know wheres ubuntu gimp plugin directory ?
[03:33] <soundray> fbafelipe, do a 'grep renewal /var/log/syslog'
[03:33] <bigfoot1> oskude: go to http://www.siox.org/plugin.html
[03:33] <djm62> pmab: sorry it was so hard :-/ still all's well that something something
[03:33] <runevi> feelmjawlk: sort off.  what kind of hardware?
[03:34] <bigfoot1> oskude: that page also says that the plugin for gimp 2.2 is not as good as it is in 2.3 or better
[03:34] <noggie> on Ubuntu Breezy i can listen to local MP3 files just fine with XMMS, but when i add an url for a live stream, it does not add the source and nothing happens. any ideas how to fix that, please?
[03:34] <feelmjawlk> runevi: soundcard, audigy 4 (audigy 2 chipset)
[03:34] <gobbo> Hi, i have a question. Im running the livecd of ubuntu and want to use fdisk, but it cant open hda. i used it before, but now i have a s-ata harddrive. do those have different names?
[03:34] <runevi> feelmjawlk: Only getting static?
[03:34] <fbafelipe> soundray: the result is many lines like "Dec 17 12:31:39 localhost dhclient: bound to <IP_ADDRESS> -- renewal in 300 seconds.
[03:34] <fbafelipe> "
[03:34] <pmab> djm62, was my adsl modem, turns out it doesnt like ipv6
[03:34] <oskude> bigfoot1, well, i ill try the 2.2 plugin (cause its less hassle)
[03:34] <noggie> gobbo, use /dev/sda
[03:34] <bigfoot1> oskude: okay. please let me know how it goes.
[03:34] <djm62> pmab: ooh, nice and obscure
[03:34] <soundray> fbafelipe, does the last one show anything different from 300 seconds?
[03:35] <odat> anyone have any experience with Lirc?
[03:35] <feelmjawlk> runevi: Static? elaborate... the problem is I've no sound since I put in my new sndcard, here is an interesting line from lspci: 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0008
[03:35] <soundray> odat, a little.
[03:35] <fbafelipe> soundray: no
[03:35] <gobbo> it says unable to open too :(
[03:35] <bigfoot1> soundray: thank you for offering to help. i think it is not too hard, but I'm a real newbie. If I can learn how to do it on one photo, i can know how to do it on any other photo.
[03:35] <runevi> feelmjawlk: Well, can't really help you as I don't get my Sound Blaster Audigy SE to work neither. :-/
[03:35] <bigfoot1> soundray: you on IM?
[03:35] <soundray> fbafelipe, in that case, it is your router determining the lease time.
[03:36] <soundray> bigfoot1, only Skype.
[03:36] <feelmjawlk> runevi: :( shame, for both of us
[03:36] <odat> soundray, when i try to run irrecord to setup my remote i get the following error   irrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions)
[03:36] <bigfoot1> soundray: can we text thru skype or would you like to do pm?
[03:36] <feelmjawlk> runevi: But the Audigy SE isn't supported by alsa, right?
[03:36] <soundray> bigfoot1, give me 5 min to sort out two other threads pls
[03:37] <bigfoot1> soundray: no problem.
[03:37] <fbafelipe> soundray: but in the dhclient.conf i set fixed ip to <IP_ADDRESS>, the fixed ip will work and i will get always the same ip?
[03:37] <feelmjawlk> runevi: I think I read somewhere someone used oss? I might be mistaken though
[03:37] <simonvallore> nothing better than a saturday in #ubuntu
[03:37] <simonvallore> O_O
[03:37] <burepe> I am using skype and if my mic and line in are off  I can call people. If one of them is on it says problem with sound device, The faq doesn't mention this problem,but maybe I am missing it. Any suggestions?
[03:37] <soundray> odat, what kind of detector hardware have you got?
[03:37] <runevi> feelmjawlk: correct.  but .. i'm waiting for support :D
[03:37] <bettong_BOFH> does anyone know if compiling my kernal will fix the fact that ubuntu dosen't know my hardware right?
[03:37] <soundray> fbafelipe, should, unless the router ignores the request, like it does with the lease time one.
[03:37] <oskude> bigfoot1, i did "chmod +x siox4gimp" and then "sudo cp siox4gimp /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/" and it seems to work "Filters/Misc/Foreground Extraction"
[03:38] <simonvallore> bettong_BOFH, try it
[03:38] <odat> soundray, detector hardware?
[03:38] <fbafelipe> soundray: ok, thank you for the help
[03:38] <bigfoot1> oskude: you've tried it on one of your pics?
[03:38] <feelmjawlk> runevi: I actually purchased this card only because sound quality of my older sb pci 128 was inferior in linux vs. windows and I want to use linux on fulltime
[03:38] <soundray> odat, you need a sensor to pick up your remote control signals.
[03:38] <oskude> bigfoot1, no, i just tested that it loads... (im lazy atm to learn new thigs:)
[03:38] <odat> soundray, the sensor is connected to the tv card
[03:39] <soundray> odat, have you followed the instructions on lirc.org?
[03:39] <RockyBurt> i'm considering switching to dapper drake ... any things i should watch out for?
[03:40] <oskude> is gimp2.3 maybe in the backports ?
[03:40] <void^> sadly, lirc has problems with recent kernel versions
[03:40] <feelmjawlk> logging off..
[03:40] <soundray> oskude, no.
[03:40] <odat> soundray, i know i need to record the signals from my remote but i keep getting that error
[03:40] <oskude> soundray, roger
[03:41] <reagleBRKLN> what linux util can unpack a sit/hqx?
[03:41] <puma_83> hello, can someone help me with pxe and ubuntu? i put the error and the config file on  www.liquidstar.ch/error.jpg und www.liquidstar.ch/error.txt ! thx for any help
[03:41] <soundray> odat, have you edited your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf and is it loading the appropriate modules?
[03:42] <oskude> bigfoot1, ill try a local build of gimp2.3 :) (just for fun)
[03:42] <odat> soundray, checking now
[03:42] <bettong_BOFH> someone told me that compiling my own kernal might not be a good idea if ubuntu dosen't know the vendors in the device tab of the device manager
[03:42] <Kazuya> hi :D
[03:42] <mgi> hey.. can anyone point me to some documentation on how to configure my xorg.conf to allow me to use my dell 24" lcd with my fx 5200?
[03:43] <ubuntu_> Fudge
[03:43] <soundray> bigfoot1, same skype u/n
[03:43] <gobbo> when i type "fdisk -l" it doesnt show me anything :(
[03:43] <void^> puma_83: i use root=/dev/ram0 for my initrd/netboot kernel commandline
[03:43] <bigfoot1> soundray: ok
[03:43] <Kazuya> someone can tell me the configuration file of vino-server?
[03:43] <hlen> gobbo, might be something wrong with you /proc dir. try fdisk -l /dev/hd[abcd]
[03:44] <puma_83> void^: okey, i try......
[03:45] <gobbo> ah, it found hdc but theres only 670mb and mz harddrive(sata) is 200gb
[03:45] <oskude> Kazuya, the most config files are in "/etc"
[03:45] <odat> soundray, i have my tv card working with the modular technology setting in bttv  i have no idea what remote that is and its not listed on lirc
[03:47] <soundray> odat, in that case, I can't help.
[03:47] <shanonx> anyone know of another good image editor instead of gimp?
[03:48] <soundray> odat, sorry, you may have to ask lirc developers for a compatible driver.
[03:48] <nubuntu> Aaargh! "Set $QTDIR correctly and rerun." How do I fix this? Thought /usr/share/qt3 was right, but...
[03:51] <shanonx> is there no other image editor besides gimp?
[03:51] <mgi> i love how nothing ever quite works in linux
[03:52] <djm62> shanonx: what sort of images?
[03:52] <Kazuya> oskude: i can't find nothing make me think of vino in /etc
[03:52] <shanonx> .bmp
[03:52] <oskude> Kazuya, hmm any help in man files ? like "man vino" (or what ever its called)
[03:52] <Kazuya> no man for vino
[03:53] <Kazuya> no man for vino-server
[03:53] <djm62> shanonx: what kind of editing?
[03:53] <shanonx> djm62: .bmp .gif type stuff..
[03:53] <frogzoo> shanonx: interesting question - why do you need another image editor?
[03:53] <shanonx> frogzoo: cause gimp keeps giving me some Export error and wont edit the image.
[03:54] <oskude> Kazuya, is this used by vino /etc/vnc.conf ?
[03:55] <Nomikos> thanks all :-)
[03:55] <djm62> is this a nonfree-gif thing?
[03:55] <shanonx> frogzoo: got it working.
[03:56] <Kazuya> tnx oskude, i try
[03:56] <Kazuya> :D
[03:57] <oskude> i wonder how long it will take to compile gimp...
[03:58] <kaminix> oskude, it doesn't take that long really, at least it didn't for me... :)
[03:58] <gib8> hi
[03:58] <gib8> i wanna do alsaconf
[03:58] <oskude> kaminix, its compiling atm with 1.2ghz duron...
[03:58] <gib8> nad have installed alsa-utils
[03:58] <gib8> but there is no alsaconf
[03:58] <uber_spaced> what is a good graphical file manager?
[03:58] <kaminix> oskude, ah... I did it on a 2,6ghz P4. :)
[03:59] <kaminix> uber_spaced, gnome-commander is good.
[03:59] <gib8> knows someone where it is now in brezzy?
[03:59] <Stormx2> Why does firefox say it has blocked a popup but it pops up anyway?
[03:59] <Subhuman> u sure alsaconf is in alsa-utils?
[03:59] <Subhuman> Stormx2, u sure there wasnt 2 popups?
[03:59] <frogzoo> Stormx2: more than 1 popup?
[03:59] <gib8> Subhuman, no but apt says thatNote, selecting alsa-utils instead of alsaconf
[03:59] <gib8> alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[03:59] <Stormx2> I wouldn't have thought so
[04:00] <Stormx2> But surely if there is more than 1 it would block them all
[04:00] <Stormx2> ?
[04:00] <djm62> gib8: locate alsaconf ?
[04:00] <frogzoo> Stormx2: yar, it's wierd that ff blocks popups, but you still get them sometimes- but definately fewer of them
[04:00] <djm62> Stormx2: people are paid to find ways past popup blockers...the good guys aren't always in the lead
[04:00] <uber_spaced> kaminix, thanks
[04:00] <gib8> djm62, locate alsaconf ?
[04:01] <gib8> djm62, result is: /
[04:01] <Subhuman> gib8, i cant see alsaconf, but i do have a alsaconf file.
[04:01] <Stormx2> djm62: Hmm, fair enough. its just that whenever a popup comes up, it says it has blocked it, so surely it knows it is there?
[04:01] <Subhuman> so i dunno.
[04:01] <nickrud> alsaconf isn't in breezy, according to packages.ubuntu.com
[04:01] <djm62> Stormx2: you will be much happier if you believe the guys in the lead are good by definition ;)
[04:01] <gib8> Subhuman, i wanna make a new, becouse my soundcard is not found as card but is loaded as oss
[04:01] <Stormx2> Oh, and this isn't really a problem, but how could I get FF to open links in tabs all the time.
[04:01] <djm62> Stormx2: tabbrowser extensions
[04:02] <Stormx2> djm62: Thanks
[04:02] <frogzoo> djm62: how old r u to be so cynical?
[04:02] <Subhuman> hmm, well im not sure, ive never had a card not work.
[04:02] <Subhuman> i havea  creative audigy.
[04:02] <gib8> Subhuman, i will post my codes a moment please
[04:02] <Subhuman> use pastebin
[04:02] <djm62> frogzoo: 23, but I've never been this old before ;)
[04:02] <Subhuman> !tell gib8 about pastebin
[04:03] <loveli> hi
[04:03] <gib8> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/947
[04:03] <Stormx2> How far are the dev team from getting firefox 1.5 in dapper?
[04:03] <Subhuman> gib8, this file is for AC97, which is an inbuilt soundcard
[04:04] <Subhuman> as in, the one in your motherboard, is that what you have or are trying to use?
[04:04] <gib8> Subhuman, yes but why doesnt find my gonme an card:
[04:04] <gib8>  /usr/bin/aplay -l
[04:04] <gib8> aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...
[04:04] <gib8> and:
[04:04] <gib8>  cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:04] <gib8> --- no soundcards ---
[04:05] <Subhuman> hmm, im not sure, my AC97 works without a problem, odd.
[04:05] <gib8> Subhuman, yes i wanna try my onboard soundcard
[04:05] <gib8> Subhuman, the problem is i nstalled the original nvidia drivers
[04:05] <Subhuman> the ones from apt?
[04:05] <gib8> Subhuman, my card has no hardwaremixing
[04:06] <gib8> Subhuman, no the NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run
[04:06] <gib8>  from the nividia-homepage
[04:06] <gib8> now i wanna config it with alsa or use it again with the old modul (which seems no longer to work)
[04:06] <Subhuman> ahh right, because i got the nvidia drivers from apt, and my sound still works fine.
[04:06] <gib8> Subhuman, maybee i try, apt-get install what?
[04:07] <Subhuman> umm
[04:07] <gib8> do u have nforce2?
[04:07] <gib8> or newer?
[04:07] <Subhuman> no
[04:07] <Subhuman> older :P
[04:08] <GameCat> hi - can anyone help me set up zend server on (k)ubuntu?
[04:08] <Subhuman> gib8, i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:08] <Subhuman> then u do
[04:08] <Subhuman>  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:08] <gib8>  NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[04:08] <Subhuman> for the ubuntu supported driver
[04:08] <Subhuman> s
[04:08] <gib8> isnt it only for the grafic?
[04:09] <theD3viL> how to connect to someone with ssh ?
[04:09] <gib8> Subhuman, i try
[04:09] <gib8> it couldnt bee more worse ;)
[04:10] <Toma-> theD3viL: 'man ssh'
[04:10] <djm62> theD3viL: is they have an sshd running, just type ssh ip.or.hostname
[04:10] <kieee> 5+3=?
[04:10] <gib8> i do restart my xserver
[04:10] <Toma-> 8
[04:10] <oskude> theD3viL, ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:11] <Mitsukichan> How Can I enter a freaking @character in ubuntu linux?
[04:11] <kieee> ok
[04:11] <kieee> my irc is work
[04:11] <Subhuman> no, well it says some features wont be activated untill u restart
[04:11] <kieee> thx a lot
[04:11] <Toma-> Mitsukichan: \@
[04:11] <cliebow__> @
[04:11] <djm62> Mitsukichan: depends on your keyboard
[04:11] <theD3viL> tnx everyone !
[04:11] <Kazuya> oskude: i didn't nedd to change the configuration
[04:11] <Subhuman> Mitsukichan, ure keyboard must ne the wrong keymap
[04:11] <oskude> Mitsukichan, depends on your keyboard layout, i got it at altgr+q
[04:11] <Mitsukichan> Is there no keymap?
[04:11] <Subhuman> try ", that works for me when it messes my keys up
[04:11] <Mitsukichan> Where I can see which combinations of meta-keys produce which results?
[04:11] <Kazuya> i forgot that i've got two screens on that pc
[04:12] <Subhuman> Mitsukichan, u using ghe live cd?
[04:12] <Kazuya> and i didn't give vnc th screen id
[04:12] <Mitsukichan> Subhuman: No, freshly installed
[04:12] <Kazuya> :/
[04:12] <gib8> hi
[04:12] <djm62> Mitsukichan: yeah, I have shift-' but US default is shift-2 I guess
[04:12] <Kazuya> now works
[04:12] <oskude> Kazuya, :)
[04:12] <Subhuman> Mitsukichan, because, if u do "lang=uk (ur country code) itll set it corret."
[04:12] <Kazuya> thanks x your time and exuse me
[04:12] <Kazuya> :D
[04:12] <Mitsukichan> No Keymap application?
[04:12] <Subhuman> Mitsukichan, you had to choose your keymap during install
[04:12] <bz0b> hey all
[04:12] <Subhuman> and there are, jus google it.
[04:13] <Mitsukichan> And everyathing else works fine (german keymap), but I cant find the freaking @ character
[04:13] <djm62> Mitsukichan: System->Preferences->Keyboard
[04:13] <picaboo> hi i try this: chmod 744 /etc/init.d/dial cd /etc/rc2.d ln -s ../init.d/dial S95dial
[04:13] <picaboo> but it doesnt work
[04:13] <gib8> Subhuman, it was only for the grafcdevice
[04:13] <oskude> Mitsukichan, on german its "Alt Gr" + "q"
[04:13] <djm62> Mitsukichan: I don't know if there are any "typical german keyboard problems", but having a look at that might help
[04:14] <Mitsukichan> oskude: Alt Gr? I see... I have not mapped that key
[04:14] <oskude> Mitsukichan, its the key right next to space
[04:16] <EasterSunshine> can someone suugest a program to batch convert images to full quality jpegs?
[04:17] <GameCat> EasterSunshine: imagemagick
[04:17] <djm62> EasterSunshine: convert ?
[04:17] <Mitsukichan> It _has_ to be scrwed up somehow ;) I am running Ubuntu on Virtual PC on my Mac
[04:17] <andrwe_> hey somebody mention to this andrew_ fucker that there's a reason nicks are registered. i'm getting damn sick of having to boot him every time i join the server
[04:17] <EasterSunshine> GameCat: thx, let me try it
[04:18] <GameCat> EasterSunshine: djm62 is also on the money - the convert prog is part of imagemagick
[04:18] <djm62> EasterSunshine: the 'convert' command might well be your boy
[04:18] <eigh> Heb net Ubuntu geinstalleerd op mijn oude PC en alles lijkt te werken. Moet nog wel wennen aan dit nieuwe besturingssysteem.
[04:18] <oskude> !nl
[04:18] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[04:18] <Mitsukichan> I am, however pretty pleased so far with ubuntu :)
[04:19] <Seveas> eigh, dit kanaal is engels, nederlands -> #ubuntu-nl
[04:21] <Seveas> Mitsukichan, it's good to hear that, we aim to please :)
[04:21] <RedRose> has anyone here gotten apache2 working for ubuntu?
[04:21] <Seveas> RedRose, sudo apt-get install apache2
[04:21] <Seveas> done
[04:21] <Seveas> it even starts automagically after installing
[04:22] <RedRose> Seveas:Did that and it doesn't work...
[04:22] <Seveas> RedRose, describe "doesn't work"
[04:22] <RedRose> would having apache1.3 interfere with that?
[04:22] <oskude> RedRose, try "apt-get remove apache" (to get rid of apache1.3)
[04:22] <apricot> asd
[04:22] <tron__> alguien me lee?
[04:22] <Seveas> !tell tron__ about es
[04:22] <oskude> RedRose, and install as "standalone" not "inetd" ;)
[04:22] <apricot> ?
[04:22] <funkyHat|away> Yes
[04:22] <RedRose> doesn't work means that i doenload it and when i do /etc/init.d/apache2 nothing works
[04:23] <Seveas> download it ?
[04:23] <apricot> how to install .deb files, please?
[04:23] <Vale> s
[04:23] <_jason> !deb
[04:23] <ubotu> somebody said deb was To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:23] <Seveas> !no deb is <reply> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:23] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[04:23] <Vale> Scusate http://www.codif.altervista.org for children     http://www.codif.altervista.org for children
[04:24] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org for children    http://www.codif.altervista.org for children
[04:24] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org for children    http://www.codif.altervista.org for children
[04:24] <Seveas> .csop
[04:24] <squ> whats unbuntu?
[04:24] <Seveas> !tell squ about ubuntu
[04:24] <Happuf> Maybe those links must be restricted somehow...
[04:24] <bz0b> ubuntu is a distrobution of linux
[04:24] <bz0b> mnid my spoelling
[04:25] <oskude> unbuntu are all others than ubuntu ;)
[04:25] <bz0b> i am a  little intoxiicated
[04:25] <Gargoyle> any recommendations for a good SVN gui?
[04:25] <Seveas> gnome-terminal
[04:25] <Seveas> :)
[04:25] <Gargoyle> he he
[04:25] <squ> why unbuntu is so popular?
[04:26] <Happuf> Its easy and fast and good :)
[04:26] <bz0b> i really dont!
[04:26] <oskude> squ, its ubuntu (not unbuntu)
[04:26] <Gargoyle> It only took me 6 hours to get 686 kernel and hardware accelerated gfx! :)
[04:26] <Happuf> :DDD
[04:26] <funkyHat|away> squ, ease of use, good public image
[04:26] <bz0b> YAY
[04:26] <squ> oh, sorry
[04:26] <bz0b> yay
[04:26] <Seveas> Gargoyle, that long?
[04:26] <funkyHat|away> generally being great
[04:27] <Gargoyle> <-- Noob!
[04:27] <Gargoyle> :)
[04:27] <bz0b> oh
[04:27] <apricot> how to go terminal in etc\...\apt
[04:27] <Gargoyle> getting fglrx working was the major pain. I think it's cos I has libstdc6++ not 5
[04:27] <Seveas> squ, ubuntu is popular because it is both friendly for beginners and powerful, both stable and recent. Combinations not achieved by others :)
[04:27] <bz0b> if i am running a amd 64 2800+ on the i386 kernel, should i change to the 686
[04:28] <oskude> apricot, you mean "cd /etc/apt" ?
[04:28] <Seveas> Gargoyle, that's weird, fglrx is a breeze to install
[04:28] <apricot> zes
[04:28] <apricot> yes
[04:28] <apricot> cd etc
[04:29] <bz0b> ioll be back
[04:29] <Gargoyle> what's the difference between "removal" and "complete removal" in the package manager?
[04:29] <squ> screenshots at official site is all about 800x600 .. ?!
[04:29] <apricot> can I open the terminal in directory opened by nautilus?
[04:30] <apricot> easyer for me
[04:30] <oskude> Gargoyle, AFAIK, complete removal takes also config files (like apt-get --purge) (but dunno really)
[04:30] <funkyHat> Gargoyle, complete removal will purge config files from the system as well as removing the package files
[04:30] <apricot> 'cause my terminal always open in home dir
[04:30] <Gargoyle> ahh
[04:31] <apricot> anybody?
[04:31] <b4ck3r> apricot: apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[04:31] <_jason> apricot, install the following package: nautilus-open-terminal
[04:31] <arnold> I got a little question. Sometimes i get a message upon booting:  root filesystem not checked for 30 times, check forced. And then the filesystem is scanned. Is it something i should worry about??
[04:32] <erUSUL> arnold, no
[04:32] <Seveas> arnold, no, that's completely normal
[04:32] <apricot> tnx
[04:32] <Seveas> every 30 boots it wants to do a complete check. You can change/ disable that if you want
[04:32] <_jason> apricot, that gives you an option when you right-click, to open a terminal where you are
[04:32] <arnold> Okay thanks. But why? I dont think that the 5.4 version did it
[04:33] <Seveas> Ubuntu does that since the beginning
[04:33] <Kyral> arnold: It did
[04:33] <Kyral> arnold: Its a standard thing on all Linux distros
[04:33] <lilg_> hi can i boot to usb dvd writer to install the latest ubuntu and how do i do that?
[04:33] <Seveas> lilg_, look at the documentation for your bios
[04:33] <arnold> OKay my mistake. But thanks!
[04:33] <Kyral> lilg_: If your BIOS supports booting from it then ti should be fine
[04:34] <lilg_> not sure of my bios make, it says winstorn corparation and it doesent allow me to boot to usb ni
[04:34] <lilg_> i havea half installed 5.10
[04:34] <lilg_> i can get to log in and get bash can i do anything?
[04:36] <funkyHat> lilg_, to get from there to a normal installation, simply run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:36] <apricot> i didn't get the right click option, should i restart?
[04:36] <funkyHat> apricot, killall nautilus
[04:37] <gib8> is it possible to install ubuntu over an ubuntu without losing personal datas from the home?
[04:37] <apricot> ok, thank you very much.
[04:37] <apricot> !
[04:37] <funkyHat> gib8, what is wrong with your current ubuntu?
[04:37] <ubotu> apricot: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:37] <Kyral> gib8: If you have /home on a separate partition
[04:37] <gib8> funkyHat, i lost my soundsupport
[04:38] <gib8> Kyral, i have home on the LVM
[04:38] <Kyral> gib8: If it detects it, mount it as /home
[04:38] <Kyral> otherwise....
[04:38] <Kyral> is it a seperate Volume Group?
[04:39] <gib8> i have /boot/ /root/ as ext3 and the rest is one LVM group
[04:39] <flanagan_> I'm having some problems installing java
[04:39] <flanagan_> did the sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 thing and didn't work
[04:39] <flanagan_> any idea?
[04:39] <rudi__> any suggestions how I can change my bit depth?
[04:40] <Kyral> gib8: I don't know much about LVM, but I think you are screwed unless you somehow move /home to its own VG
[04:40] <hacs> us.undernet.org
[04:40] <oskude> rudi__, "DefaultDepth    16" under "screen" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <rudi__> oskude: thanks :)
[04:41] <psycose> hi
[04:41] <oskude> rudi__, your welcome :)
[04:41] <Hoxzer> where is config file of the wine?
[04:41] <psycose> over the past weeks, my xine crash randomly how could i make sure i'm not being infected .... any tips ? thanks
[04:41] <apricot> is there any gui way to install .deb files?
[04:42] <apricot> LOL
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> :) click on the special "terminal" GUI. :P
[04:43] <apricot> i want to install k3b that i downloaded
[04:43] <psycose> dpkg -i package.deb on a graphic console shell ;-)
[04:43] <apricot> and i must install other libs also
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> apricot,  you really dont want to just download a package like that and isntall it. theres other dependencies most likely
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> for k3b - it needs all the kde libs  - i imagine.
[04:44] <Determinist> apricot, k3b is on the repositories, why would you want to download it seperately?
[04:44] <apricot> yes, that's the problem
[04:44] <apricot> 'cause i did it already
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> :) NOW we get to the actual 'problem' :P
[04:44] <oskude> if its an ubuntu deb, then there should be no problems
[04:44] <psycose> synaptic can help you if you select the good repositories
[04:44] <Determinist> oskude, dpkg wont satisfy depdencies using -i, me thinks
[04:45] <bettong_BOFH> anyone here know why my onboard ac97 6.1 surround sound plays only one sound at a time and how to fix?
[04:45] <oskude> Determinist, woot ?
[04:45] <funkyHat> Determinist, no, it won't, but it will leave the package there broken, and apt or synaptic will fix it
[04:45] <Determinist> funkyHat, yeah, that sounds right
[04:46] <bettong_BOFH> can someone help me with my sound
[04:46] <Determinist> oskude, what funkyHat just said
[04:46] <oskude> Determinist, well i hardly use dpkg -i (and when i do, i know the depencies=
[04:46] <apricot> BUT!
[04:46] <Determinist> apricot, yes?
[04:46] <apricot> what when i install again ubuntu
[04:46] <zoka> hi people
[04:46] <apricot> &
[04:46] <funkyHat> apricot, why are you not just installing k3b from the repositories?
[04:46] <zoka> I have downloaded liveCD
[04:46] <zoka> can I boot my comp with umu
[04:46] <apricot> i want to install downloaded repositories???
[04:47] <funkyHat> apricot, i.e. sudo apt-get install k3b
[04:47] <Eighth> having trouble mounting an SD card in a USB reader under Breezy... /dev/sda1 never shows up
[04:47] <deemo> Hello everyone, i have a question: for some reason when i try to ./configure any source code, they always return "C compiler cannot create executables". is there something extra I need to install? I already have g++ and gcc
[04:47] <zoka> is it possible to boot ubuntu from liveCD?
[04:47] <Determinist> apricot, repositories are like big software warehouses on the net, you access them to download packages. K3B is on a repository that's suppoted by ubuntu
[04:47] <oskude> deemo, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:47] <funkyHat> zoka, yes
[04:48] <oskude> deemo, and try again
[04:48] <zoka> funkyHat: how please help
[04:48] <apricot> i ment the packages
[04:48] <funkyHat> zoka, do you have an ubuntu liveCD there now?
[04:48] <bettong_BOFH> i need help with  a foxconn 748K7AA and it's onboard ac97 6.1 surround sound card as it only puts out 1 sound at a time and appears to be locked can someone help me?
[04:48] <Determinist> zoka, download the latest liveCD, burn it, voila?
[04:48] <zoka> Yes
[04:48] <zoka> I have downoaded iso
[04:48] <apricot> i do not want to download again
[04:48] <oskude> zoka, did you burn it as "image" ?
[04:49] <zoka> and I burned it but now it starts and I can try gail etc
[04:49] <deemo> oskude, thank you it worked!
[04:49] <zoka> but not boot from it
[04:49] <apricot> if i have my packages on the pc, wright???
[04:49] <zoka> I have burned image and now it is real CD
[04:49] <oskude> deemo, nice!
[04:49] <funkyHat> apricot, you will find that using apt and downloading again will be MUCH easier
[04:49] <Determinist> bettong_BOFH, sound is an issue that's hard to deal with mate, i suggest you read up some about alsa, look at the wiki or the forums to check if someone has bumped into the same problem.
[04:50] <zoka> I can exacurtte start
[04:50] <zoka> from CD
[04:50] <apricot> yes, i agree
[04:50] <bettong_BOFH> Determinist, ok will do just new with troubleshooting sound so i am unshure of where to start
[04:50] <apricot> tnx
[04:50] <apricot> bye
[04:50] <funkyHat> apricot, using .deb files you downloaded yourself will be a pain in the ass as you have to sort out dependencies etc. also if the version you downloaded isn't from ubuntu, you may get other problems with it not adding up
[04:50] <funkyHat> bye...
[04:51] <Determinist> bettong_BOFH, 1. wiki.ubuntu.com 2. ubuntuforums.org 3. google is your friend. 4. read up about esd and alsa.
[04:51] <oskude> zoka, dont quite get your problem... can your computer boot from cd ? (does other bootable cds work?)
[04:51] <bettong_BOFH> kk
[04:53] <gib8> knows someone what this mean, and what slave is?
[04:53] <gib8>  ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[04:54] <vince_> hi
[04:55] <gib8> vince_, hi
[04:55] <vince_> hi gib8
[04:55] <beelzebub1987> Anyone here been able to play on Private RO servers using ubuntu?
[04:55] <luisito> hello, guys I have a problem
[04:56] <beelzebub1987> don't we all..
[04:56] <vince_> how can i make a wifi bandwith test?
[04:56] <void^> beelzebub1987: i've had little luck with RO clients and wine/cedega, but i've heard reports indicating it's possible.. somehow
[04:56] <beelzebub1987> well
[04:56] <beelzebub1987> I've gotten it to work
[04:56] <beelzebub1987> I just can't get it working with a private server
[04:56] <beelzebub1987> you need to use the linuxexe.exe
[04:56] <beelzebub1987> to be able to connect to servers
[04:57] <funkyHat> vince_, set up an FTP server and a BIG file, and plug it in to a wired port, and grab the file on your wireless device :P
[04:57] <luisito> I did "sudo chmod a+rw -R" in /, by error, and now I have a lot of problems. Is there a way to reset all the permissions back to original?
[04:57] <melonipoika> hi, is anyone using ntfs-fuse?
[04:58] <Ed-Gein> install quake4 demo as user or root?
[04:58] <void^> beelzebub1987: heh.. when i tried i was having basic direct3d issues.. it couldn't lock a surface and would keep switching surfaces resulting in a garbled display. connecting seemed to work, but with the display problem i didn't try really attempt playing..
[04:58] <vince_> funkyHat, i want a tool like airmagnet for linux
[04:58] <void^> -try
[04:58] <beelzebub1987> Have you tried cedega 5?
[04:58] <void^> yesh..
[04:58] <beelzebub1987> I tried it on regular wine 9.3 and it ran relaly slow
[04:58] <beelzebub1987> but it seems to work nicely with cedega 5.0.1
[04:59] <coolio_za> I need a mindmapping tool like freemind any alternatives out there
[04:59] <void^> i read there was a problem with ati's drivers, though.. so that might be why
[04:59] <beelzebub1987> well
[04:59] <beelzebub1987> I'm using the newest ati driver
[04:59] <beelzebub1987> and it works fine
[04:59] <beelzebub1987> the graphical part
[04:59] <void^> hm, me too..
[04:59] <beelzebub1987> 8.20.8?
[04:59] <jroes> anyone know if firefox+java runtime+java plugin will work on amd64?
[04:59] <aeon17x> !openoffice.org
[04:59] <ubotu> aeon17x: I haven't a clue
[04:59] <aeon17x> !openoffice
[04:59] <ubotu> aeon17x: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:59] <aeon17x> >:(
[04:59] <beelzebub1987> I think there's a 64 bit verison of the java plugin
[05:00] <coolio_za> mindmapping in OOo
[05:00] <rosen> Does anyone know how to enable overburning in Gnomebaker ?
[05:02] <Ed-Gein> problems installing q4 demo when I run" sudo ./quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run" I get a command not found error any ideas
[05:02] <funkyHat> andrew_, stop it! :/
[05:02] <willis_> Ed-Gein,  be sure ya chmod +x, it first. and give the full path for sudo
[05:02] <knubbe> Ed-Gein:  have you chmod:ed the file?
[05:02] <dooglus> luisito: I don't know of one
[05:03] <willis_> sudo /path/to/whatever.run
[05:03] <rosen> funkyHat, auto-reconnect ftl
[05:03] <Ed-Gein> knubbe: no I didn't
[05:03] <funkyHat> yeah :(
[05:03] <luisito> dooglus, if I reinstall over it, I'll lose my info?
[05:03] <kakei> hey guys pls help me, i cant startx the error is : Api missmatch  the nvidia kernel is version 1.0.7676, but this X module is version  1.0.8174. please be sure that your kernel
[05:03] <dooglus> luisito: what kind of problems do you have?  I wouldn't expect a+rw to cause any immediate problems really
[05:04] <knubbe> Ed-Gein: :-)
[05:04] <Determinist> kakei, change xorg driver to nv instead of nvidia, you prolly tried to install the nvidia driver and it went wrong on you
[05:04] <rosen> dooglus ! I'm superuser now !
[05:05] <dooglus> rosen: you're logged in as root you mean?  or you have run "sudo -i"?  or what?
[05:06] <rosen> dooglus, nah I just mean that I'm not as confused as before :D
[05:06] <Ed-Gein> thanks that did the trick
[05:06] <dooglus> rosen: aah.  "superuser" is another word for "root" in UNIX-speak
[05:07] <rosen> dooglus, oh ... well then I'm just elite ! ... or something
[05:07] <dooglus> rosen: good for you.  got that "cd" command down pat now?
[05:07] <kakei> Determinist it's 'nvidia' but i get..actually :  Cautgh signal 11.server aborting
[05:08] <dooglus> does anyone know how to change the prompt in a terminal?
[05:08] <_jason> dooglus, .bashrc
[05:08] <funkyHat> man bash
[05:08] <funkyHat> :P
[05:08] <Determinist> kakei, reinstall the driver, make sure you got all the settings right according to a manual like the one on ubuntuforums.org, that's about it
[05:08] <rosen> didnt you just teach me that the other day ? ;)
[05:08] <dooglus> _jason: bash: .bashrc: command not found
[05:08] <_jason> dooglus, edit that file :P
[05:09] <dooglus> _jason: ok
[05:09] <_jason> dooglus, ~/.bashrc
[05:09] <oxez> anyone could link me to a solution when nvidia kernel module cannot be loaded? Im in text mode and its kinda hard to search forums and google that way :/
[05:09] <rosen> alias PS1='Yes Master> '
[05:09] <dooglus> lol
[05:09] <_jason> dooglus, search for 'prompt' and you'll see where the info is.  You'll probably need to see the man or google to see what you can add in there
[05:09] <rosen> :D
[05:10] <dooglus> thanks _jason
[05:10] <elastic0> geuke teefjes
[05:10] <elastic0> geile*
[05:10] <kakei> Determinist : error unable to exec gcc.real doesnt exist the file or directory
[05:12] <Determinist> kakei, you sure you got all the proper packages installed to be compiling the driver?
[05:13] <Eighth> /dev/sda does not show up when i plug in a usb drive. i'm running breezy. any ideas?
[05:13] <mojo> anyone familiar with irssi know how to paste a file into the chat?  (private channel, not gonna flood here!)
[05:14] <kakei> Determinist : how do i check if i have all the proper packpages
[05:14] <Determinist> kakei, i'm going to suggest you follow a howto. this isnt something you can solve easily from a chat session
[05:15] <kakei> Determinist i dont have X is hard i'm using irssi
[05:15] <Determinist> kakei, get lynx
[05:16] <kakei> Determinist i have lynx but how can i use it?!
[05:16] <LjL> kakei: no, gets links2 :-)
[05:16] <rosen> any suggestion wich app I should use to be able to overburn ? .. Gnomebaker dont support that
[05:16] <LjL> kakei: start it, press "g", and browse
[05:16] <Determinist> yes, what LjL said
[05:16] <LjL> and get links2
[05:16] <luisito> dooglus, for example: sudo doesn't work because /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440
[05:17] <soundray> Eighth, check out your /var/log/syslog for any errors relating to the plugging event.
[05:17] <luisito> dooglus, then you have problems with installig, moving, copying, etc..
[05:17] <LjL> kakei: the easiest way to paste things from the console, then, is to install gpm, so that you can use the mouse to paste
[05:17] <dooglus> luisito: ok.  if you send me a list of all your files, I can send you back a script to "chmod" them to the same as they are on my box.
[05:17] <mrsunshine> no mplayer in the packages? :/
[05:17] <LjL> kakei: as for pasting an entire file into irssi, i wouldn't know
[05:18] <dooglus> luisito: that won't fix everything - you've probably got some stuff installed that I don't.  but it would be a very good start
[05:18] <LjL> oh sorry, that was actually mojo
[05:18] <_jason> ubotu, tell mrsunshine about mplayer
[05:18] <aTypical> mrsunshine, I'm really new to ubuntu, but I found the wiki and it tells how to install it.
[05:19] <Eighth> soundray: usb 1-1: device not accepting address 22, error -71
[05:19] <Eighth> soundray: that error repeats with different address numbers
[05:20] <rosen> mrsunshine, it's in the universe repos isnt it ?
[05:20] <kakei> i cant go to the wiki of ubuntu rrggg
[05:20] <mrsunshine> rosen: first time using this "os" so i dont know?
[05:20] <_jason> mrsunshine, ubotu sent you some info in a private message, check it out
[05:20] <luisito> dooglus, that could be a great help man, I don't want to reinstall
[05:20] <aTypical> mrsunshine, read the wiki.  It really helps.
[05:21] <soundray> Eighth, I've got a device that does that. It usually works after unplugging & plugging it a few times.
[05:21] <rosen> ubotu, tell mrsunshine about repos
[05:21] <mrsunshine> rosen: hehe, already found the page about it :>
[05:21] <Pygi> !repository
[05:21] <ubotu> Pygi: I give up, what is it?
[05:21] <soundray> Eighth, I run tail -f /var/log/messages so I can see what happens as I plug the device.
[05:22] <Pygi> hehe ;)
[05:22] <LjL> kakei: install links2, if you can start it graphically (use "links2 -g"), i'm sure you'll be able to browse the wiki
[05:22] <McScruff> uboto, tell rosen about unprotected sex
[05:22] <McScruff> :P
[05:22] <rosen> mrsunshine, hehe it's not that complicated.. I only started using linux a little less than a week.. But adding universe and multiverse repositories is quite important to really get things going
[05:22] <Pygi> rosen, do you know how to add repositories?
[05:23] <luisito> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5851
[05:23] <rosen> ubotu, tell McScruff that I allready have a girlfriend and I'm not interrested
[05:23] <McScruff> lol
[05:23] <Eighth> soundray: i'm not getting the addressing error now, but /dev/sda still doesn't show up
[05:23] <rosen> Pygi, yah
[05:23] <Ed-Gein> does anyone run winxp as a guest os under ubuntu?
[05:23] <rosen> ubotu No, rosen, I won't. (target invalid?) ..... he's probably right
[05:23] <ubotu> rosen: Not a clue
[05:24] <soundray> Eighth, does your USB drive work elsewhere?
[05:24] <Eighth> soundray: yep
[05:24] <mrsunshine> but its like 5 reps that says universe and NONE matches the ones in the "tutorial" on how to enable them :P
[05:24] <Subhuman> hi, this isnt really specific ubuntu, but its only happened to me in ubuntu, I'm using mplayer-plugin to watch videos in firefox, they work fine, BUT i cant seem to go fullscreen, it just keeps it 1:1 and adds a big black border, same thing in mplayer standalone, any ideas??
[05:24] <french29man> hello i look someone to check and try my gnome meeting please
[05:24] <slarts> Ed-Gein: "Guest OS"? You mean under VMWare or something similar?
[05:24] <Ed-Gein> slarts:exactly
[05:24] <mrsunshine> "breezy backports"
[05:24] <deemo> anyone here know where i can get the mod_dav_svn.so file for subversion?
[05:24] <mrsunshine> whats that? :>
[05:24] <slarts> Yes then
[05:24] <aTypical> Subhuman, I get that same thing playing supertux.
[05:25] <_jason> Subhuman, make sure you are using 'xv' as the video output
[05:25] <french29man> hello i look someone to check and try my gnome meeting please
[05:25] <slarts> actually no, not under Ubuntu, but under FC
[05:25] <Linuturk> well, gnome runs like a dream on my machine from the live cd, so I can't imagine with an actual install
[05:25] <Subhuman> xv? i saw that, but i wasnt sure which one, ill try it out
[05:25] <aTypical> Subhuman, I haven't figured out why it does that.
[05:25] <rosen> mrsunshine, something about being compatible with older apps I believe
[05:25] <soundray> Eighth, does it get another devicename? I get anything from /dev/sda to /dev/sdg on mine.
[05:25] <Linuturk> i'm going to install after shrinking my partitions for windows
[05:25] <Checksi> hi
[05:25] <Linuturk> wish me luck
[05:25] <Checksi> anyone of the ubuntu crew around?
[05:25] <mrsunshine> rosen: would be nice if atleast one entry in the list matched the ones in the tutorial :/
[05:25] <Eighth> soundray: there's no /dev/sd*
[05:25] <Linuturk> i do have a question
[05:26] <Timmmm> Hey, I need to install libstdc++-3.3.4 because some library was compiled with it and the ABI has since changed (damn those gcc monkeys). How do I do this?
[05:26] <soundray> Eighth, oh, interesting.
[05:26] <Checksi> Anyone of the ubuntu crew around?
[05:26] <rosen> mrsunshine, you use Synaptic to do it ?
[05:26] <Linuturk> Multiverse is stated as being "Non Free" << does this mean we have to pay for it?
[05:26] <_jason> Checksi, what do you need?
[05:26] <Eighth> i agree
[05:26] <_jason> Linuturk, no, non free as in the sense of free speech
[05:26] <Ed-Gein> Linuturk : no
[05:26] <merly> where can I find the ifcfg-wlan0 (or similar) file? so that my settings are use automatically each time i boot?
[05:26] <french29man> hello i look someone to check and try my gnome meeting please
[05:26] <soundray> Eighth, have you checked your lsmod output?
[05:27] <aTypical> Linuturk, no, it means that some things there may be illegal to use in some countries. :-)
[05:27] <deemo> anyone here know where i can get the mod_dav_svn.so file for subversion?
[05:27] <Linuturk> o, i got it
[05:27] <sdakota> always funny when french people try to speak english ^^
[05:27] <Checksi> _jason check pm
[05:27] <french29man> yes thank i try
[05:27] <Linuturk> well, i'll have to make sure i own the program before I actually install it ;)
[05:27] <french29man> u like my accent
[05:27] <Checksi> or how can i know who are the members of the ubuntu crew?
[05:27] <_jason> Checksi, I didn't get one
[05:27] <Linuturk> l8r
[05:27] <sdakota> french29man: your gnome meeting?
[05:27] <Checksi> _jason are ya part of the crew?
[05:27] <_jason> Checksi, no
[05:27] <Checksi> ok
[05:28] <sdakota> french29man: yea, the accent for a great part
[05:28] <mrsunshine> rosen: atm trying in adept
[05:28] <Subhuman> _jason, thanks man, that fixed it in the standalone, still no joy with mplayer-plugin, but this is much better :D
[05:28] <_jason> Checksi, if you need to speak with the developers you can try #ubuntu-devel
[05:29] <Timmmm> Ok, how can I find the available versions of the libstdc++5-3.3-dev package?
[05:29] <antisocial_boris> hi, can anyone help me find out how im actually connecting to the net? im having problems on my home network, i can get on on my hoary laptop but not on an xp pc
[05:29] <Eighth> soundray: i think i have everything i need... sd_mod, scsi_mod, usb_storage, uhci_hcd, usbcore
[05:29] <rosen> mrsunshine, ah ok I'm not familiar with that
[05:29] <_jason> Subhuman, there are settings for the plug-in too, /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf iirc
[05:29] <antisocial_boris> i wanna see whats different between the two thats getting me on but not the pc
[05:29] <rosen> mrsunshine, like mostly everything else in linux ;)
[05:29] <Eighth> when i plug in my camera, gthumb is able to retreive images, so i know usb is working
[05:30] <soundray> Eighth, are you plugging into a hub or into the mainboard/laptop directly?
[05:30] <oskude> Timmmm, dont quite get you ?
[05:30] <Kyral> antisocial_boris: I'd try using traceroute to find the path and to see where its stopping on XP
[05:30] <Eighth> soundray: it's actually a multicard reader, but it's acted exactly like a usb drive on every other system i've used
[05:31] <french29man> sdakota , your gnome meeting adress please
[05:31] <antisocial_boris> how do i use traceroute on xp?
[05:31] <sdakota> french29man: my gnome .. meeting address? :/
[05:31] <Eighth> and it's plugged directly into the lappy
[05:31] <soundray> antisocial_boris, wrong place to ask.
[05:31] <oskude> Timmmm, apt-cache show libstdc++5-3.3-dev ?
[05:31] <antisocial_boris> ok
[05:31] <slarts> antisocial_boris: How do you physically connect?
[05:31] <sdakota> french29man, could you tell me what a gnome meeting address is :/
[05:31] <Kyral> antisocial_boris: you go to the command prompt and I THINK the command is tracert
[05:32] <kakei> hey anyone help me pls : Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/moduleslibfb.a:fbmmx.o
[05:32] <Timmmm> oskude: Thanks
[05:32] <french29man> gnome meeting is a soft for audio and web cam
[05:32] <french29man> for linux
[05:32] <juanwalker> How i can update my repository from stable to testing or unstable? For example im interested in OOO 2.0 RC3 and kde3.5
[05:32] <antisocial_boris> were all plugged into the router
[05:32] <soundray> Eighth, have you tried varying the sequence (plugging / card insertion)?
[05:32] <slarts> what kind of "router"?
[05:32] <slarts> DSL modem or proper router?
[05:32] <rosen> any audio prgrams other than skype that support both linux and windows ?
[05:33] <Toma-> rosen: kopete
[05:33] <kakei> can any one pls help me, i cant start x this is the error  : Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/moduleslibfb.a:fbmmx.o
[05:33] <oskude> rosen, openwengo (linux and windows, osx not yet)
[05:33] <Eighth> soundray: i've tried plugging the reader in w/ and w/o the card. i've also tried booting w/ and w/o the reader plugged in
[05:33] <rosen> thanks I'll look into it
[05:33] <merly> can anyone tell me how to change touchpad sensitivity in ubuntu?
[05:33] <juanwalker> How i can update my db to testing packages?
[05:34] <Toma-> juanwalker: you sure you want to do that?
[05:34] <thomas> redet hier auch jemand in deutsch?
[05:34] <soundray> Eighth, I see.
[05:34] <juanwalker> Im interested in  kde3.5
[05:34] <oskude> thomas, nein :)
[05:34] <oskude> !de
[05:34] <ubotu> I guess de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:34] <juanwalker> and OpenOffice 2.0 RC3
[05:34] <soundray> thomas, ja, aber eigentlich gibt es dafuer #ubuntu-de
[05:34] <thomas> hh, lustige antwort :)
[05:34] <Seveas> juanwalker, openoffice final and kde 3.5 repos -> see http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:35] <thomas> danke, wusste ich nicht
[05:35] <soundray> Eighth, you've explored all the obvious things...
[05:35] <juanwalker> thanx Seveas
[05:35] <Eighth> that's why i'm here ;)
[05:36] <kakei> hey guys i can't startx help me with this : Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/moduleslibfb.a:fbmmx.o
[05:36] <sdakota> french29man, I don't have it
[05:36] <sdakota> sorry
[05:36] <juanwalker> and how i can reset all my respository, it a shit
[05:36] <juanwalker> for the new sources
[05:36] <juanwalker> restat my cache
[05:36] <juanwalker> restart
[05:36] <Seveas> juanwalker, create a new sources.list with that page, and do apt-get update
[05:37] <juanwalker> ok
[05:37] <timello> hey guys!
[05:38] <soundray> Eighth, what kernel are you using?
[05:38] <Eighth> Linux daedalus 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:38] <Eighth>  (breezy)
[05:38] <oskude> atlast :)
[05:38] <timello> is there php4 for breezy?
[05:39] <Determinist> timello, apt-get install php4
[05:39] <timello> apt-cache search not show me this package
[05:39] <Seveas> timello, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[05:39] <Determinist> timello, make sure you have all the repos set up properly
[05:39] <Determinist> ohh, right, yes
[05:39] <Seveas> !info libapache2-mod-php4
[05:39] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1515 kB, Installed size: 3092 kB
[05:39] <juanwalker> Breezy is the last one dist?
[05:39] <timello> Determinist, it is the default
[05:39] <oskude> timello, php4 seems to be in universe
[05:39] <Seveas> it's in universe, enable that
[05:39] <timello> ok
[05:40] <timello> let me see os2mac
[05:40] <Seveas> juanwalker, the last stable
[05:40] <timello> oskude,
[05:40] <Determinist> timello, like sev said, it's in the universe section
[05:40] <juanwalker> And horay?
[05:40] <timello> ok... I'll uncomment
[05:40] <Toma-> hey Seveas, anyplans to get firefox 1.5 in your backports repo?
[05:40] <Seveas> hoary is the older stable
[05:40] <soundray> Eighth, have you tried your hardware on any other Linux machines?
[05:40] <Seveas> Toma-, not in a million years :)
[05:40] <juanwalker> mmmah ok
[05:40] <Toma-> doh! :D
[05:40] <Determinist> why not? :P
[05:40] <Seveas> Toma-, it would break half the gnome desktop
[05:40] <oskude> timello, and not forget "sudo apt-get update"
[05:40] <Eighth> soundray: works fine on my slack 10.2 machine
[05:40] <Toma-> Seveas: i agree.
[05:41] <Seveas> and I already broke a few X servers with my ati packages :)
[05:41] <Toma-> i tried it, and it wanged out
[05:41] <soundray> Eighth, also, did you load any modules with modprobe?
[05:41] <timello> oskude, already did :)
[05:41] <oskude> timello, ok :)
[05:41] <Determinist> k, smoke time
[05:41] <Seveas> hf
[05:41] <greenpenguin13> im getting an error in my Xorg.0.log, says:
[05:41] <mojo> Seveas: like mine! LOL  I run on the previous package or I loose dualhead
[05:41] <greenpenguin13> (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0)
[05:41] <Eighth> soundray: sd_mod, scsi_mod, usb_storage