[00:00] <jchamm1> snarkster: Maybe?
[00:00] <guestadmin> mr_steve: Huh, I was just there 5 min ago System>Preferences>Startup Applicions... but now the "Startup Applications is no longer there???
[00:00] <delly> podginater: the egg.
[00:00] <monkey_d_luffy> What software can I use to import a CSV file and produce a gradient coutour surface chart?
[00:00] <sketchyd_> akufen - just tried apt-get -f install and still didnt work - same error
[00:00] <podginater> ok thanks
[00:00] <DasEi> Kingsy101: nick me when back
[00:00] <jchamm1> monkey_d_luffy: Maybe octave?
[00:00] <Alvinware> delly, can i install windows vista in wine?
[00:00] <delly> podginater: Unless its a analogy
[00:00] <CosmiChaos> ahoi
[00:00] <lstarnes> Alvinware: you don't install windows itself in wine
[00:00] <snarkster> ive setup samba on 9.04 and created a share. I goto to network in nautilus and get an error "Failed to retrieve share list" but there are shares on other machines as well..
[00:00] <delly> Alvinware: you can install Windows software in wine and hope it works :P
[00:00] <snarkster> shouldnt i be able to see my own shares?
[00:01] <DasEi> !virtualisation | Alvinware
[00:01] <rootlinuxusr> Snarkster Do you have a firewall installed?
[00:01] <delly> Alvinware: That includes viruses
[00:01] <snarkster> nope
[00:01] <jason__> How can I start an application from the command line in GNOME so that it starts minimized?  wmctrl can not do it.
[00:01] <Grizmawe> Alvinware: wine is used to run windows programs, not the OS itself. You can get vmware server for free though taht will run windows
[00:01] <arand> Alvinware: no, wine is a compability layer for applications, not for windows itself, you'd need a virtual amchine for that...
[00:01] <snarkster> in kde is does suggest that maybe a firewall is setup
[00:01] <mr_steve> guestadmin: well that's truly weird then
[00:01] <guestadmin> mr_steve this is weird..... you helped me accidentally discover another weird problem...sigh ;) lol
[00:01] <Kingsy101> DasEi - hmm am I being stupid here, how do I get into a terminal without booting into ubuntu ?
[00:02] <rootlinuxusr> if so, you should probably enable the ports for samba - 137-139, 445
[00:02] <snarkster> unless 9.04 comes with a firewall already configured.
[00:02] <DasEi> Alvinware: better use virtualbox, as you can do images from OS'es free, vmware only has a trial on generating, though player is free
[00:02] <mr_steve> guestadmin: I've never run in to that before, although I have lost all the menus before
[00:02] <snarkster> i think its my freaking router.
[00:02] <snarkster> stupide motorola pos
[00:02] <DasEi> Kingsy101: why won't you boot ?
[00:03] <guestadmin> mr_steve:always a new adventure I guess, Im currently checking the boards for some history ;)
[00:03] <arand> Kingsy101: Start another linux distro? When you have a terminal form an ubuntu install, you are per definition running ubuntu ;)
[00:03] <Alvinware> delly, Unix/Linux can't be hacked?
[00:03] <delly> Anyone got any experience with downgrading from Ext4 to Ext3?
[00:03] <DasEi> Kingsy101: ah now I get you, keyboard isn't working; have you got al live cd ?
[00:03] <Kingsy101> I am trying recovery mode now
[00:04] <delly> Alvinware: it can like anything else. Its just harder when the OS is not full of blatant known holes
[00:04] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok I am in grun
[00:04] <delly> Alvinware: And a proper security structure is in place
[00:04] <Kingsy101> grub
[00:04] <gareim> small question here: im on 9.04 with ext3. when 9.10 comes out and i upgrade, will it automatically make me ext4?
[00:04] <jfaosdp> someone has installed ubuntu in his Mac ?
[00:04] <Kingsy101> do I need to go into a root prompt ? or fix xserver? or what?
[00:04] <plaguehiv> if i want to install Compiz it is just to run "sudo aptitude install compiz" right?
[00:04] <DasEi> Kingsy101: try root prompt
[00:04] <Kingsy101> ok
[00:05] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok I am there
[00:05] <arand> gareim: no, you'd have to do that manually, and it is not complete  even then I've heard.
[00:05] <Alvinware> delly, so does that mean when i chat with a hacker, he may successfully hacked in my system?
[00:05] <Akufen> sketchyd_ it seems you need to try it multiple times, and there's another solution further down the page
[00:05] <delly> gareim: Nope <.<
[00:05] <DasEi> gareim : you can turn ext3 to ext4 any time, but from that on only futuure data will be written in ext4, works also on 9.04
[00:06] <gareim> arand: thanks for the response. ill do it manually when 9.10 comes out then... i been hearing theres stuff wrong with it right now
[00:06] <gareim> thanks for the replies guys
[00:06] <DasEi> Kingsy101: does keyboard work ?
[00:06] <Kingsy101> DasEi - yep
[00:06] <delly> Alvinware: Only if he knows how, just like about anything else. How hard it is for a pro hacker to get is, thats easy for the hacker since we are talking a pro. BUT the OS itself is harder to hack the Windows, and thats a bloody good point to have in the back of your head.
[00:06] <arand> gareim: so 9.10 seems to be very much a "fresh install" release, what with grub2 ext4 and all...
[00:06] <legend2440> sketchyd_: command is actually    sudo apt-get -f install
[00:06] <Kingsy101> DasEi - can I pm you it would be easier ?
[00:06] <DasEi> Kingsy101: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_backup
[00:07] <YaManicKill> can someone give me the default startup applications in a vanilla ubuntu gnome installation? cause i managed to delete them all
[00:07] <sketchyd_> akufen - yeah, thats what im doing
[00:07] <DasEi> Kingsy101: no need, short way
[00:07] <DasEi> Kingsy101: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:07] <guestadmin> Anyone know how to restore a missing "Startup Applications" tab from my System>Preferences Tab, It just disappeared...sigh ;)
[00:07] <Kingsy101> DasEi - its just I am not really sure about making a backup of that file, I edited that for a reason you see
[00:07] <DasEi> Kingsy101: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_backup
[00:07] <arand> gareim: Yea, I've heard there are pretty rough changes atm, I'm running it on one coputer but I haven't pushed in the latest big changes yet...
[00:08] <Akufen> sketchyd_ you're root right? or using sudo?
[00:08] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok 1 sec
[00:08] <gareim> arand: wait, so does that mean that if I want some of the benefits of 9.10 (faster boot time), i might as well do a fresh install?
[00:08] <Alvinware> delly, ext4 is stable, not beta?
[00:08] <sketchyd_> yeah, using sudo
[00:08] <sketchyd_> akufen - ive tried running it a few times, and no dice
[00:08] <legend2440> sketchyd_: you on jaunty? what were you installing when it broke?
[00:08] <Raydiation> why doesnt nautilus restart itself after ive killed it?
[00:08] <mr_steve> guestadmin: thinking about it, it just occurred to me you can try right clicking on the menu and choosing "Edit Menus"
[00:08] <Raydiation> i still see no desktop
[00:09] <sketchyd_> mysql
[00:09] <delly> Alvinware: it is quite stable, but not debian stable stable. There are random files going missing once in a while, so its stable as in 0.8 :P
[00:09] <legend2440> sketchyd_: you on jaunty?
[00:09] <arand> gareim: It is probably fully possible to do the upgrade and conversion ext3-ext4 etc. but it seems like there will be a good deal of manaul work involed if you'd want all the benefits...
[00:09] <sketchyd_> im on jaunty, trying to re-install mysql
[00:09] <Alvinware> triiiiiiplee mooooonsteeeer kills!
[00:09] <mr_steve> guestadmin: that should give you a list of enabled and disabled menu items. If Startup Applications doesn't show up in that list, however, I'm at a loss
[00:09] <delly> Alvinware: i am considering downgrading my root FS in case something randomly disturbing needed files go missing <.<
[00:09] <guestadmin> mr_steve, ok giving it  a try
[00:10] <vr_mex> after doing sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart i got Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key so how do i generate those system wide keys?
[00:10] <gareim> arand: i think i'll manually upgrade then... mainly because i lost my flash drive so i cant make a live usb. =p
[00:10] <YaManicKill> can someone give me the default startup applications in a vanilla ubuntu gnome installation? cause i managed to delete them all
[00:10] <Alvinware> delly, ext4 for debian is stable, but not for ubuntu?
[00:11] <blognewb> i think i got blindsided. I just purchased a VPSLink account then i saw http://corenetworks.net/dedicated/discount/
[00:11] <gareim> hey, why is it that on windows, open office could do .docx files, but not i dont see an option on ubuntu??
[00:11] <delly> Alvinware: Ext4 is close to stable but not stable. Debian is the distro that is the definition of stable, going by word.
[00:12] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok thats done.. is there a command to re-start ? I guess thats the next step ?
[00:12] <delly> Alvinware: with the sole catch of Sidux existsing(debian unstable), which is a testing distro for people bleeding for bleeding edge :P
[00:12] <Jared555> hello, is it normal for apt-get to return the progress of downloads like Kilobytes of Megabytes completed?
[00:12] <Jared555> http://jared555.com/screenshot/snapshot1.png
[00:12] <DasEi> Kingsy101: you ran both commands ?
[00:12] <Kingsy101> DasEi - yup
[00:12] <guestadmin> mr_Steve: would  "Sessions" be the same thing?
[00:12] <Xchatchatdf_> Hello.
[00:12] <Jared555> actually, bytes of kilobytes/megabytes
[00:12] <DasEi> Kingsy101: so if you want the old back, just change files name; reboot (in cmd-line)
[00:12] <saif> my yahoo account won connect in pidgin !!
[00:12] <metbsd> debian is always outdated
[00:12] <saif> both of them
[00:13] <Kingsy101> DasEi - huh ? what do you mean ?
[00:13] <Datz> Hi, can I remove these URL's from my sources.list ?  Are those URL's gone for good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/225200/
[00:13] <mr_steve> guestadmin: just so we're on the same page, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:13] <Kingsy101> DasEi - if I change them back wont the problem come back ?
[00:13] <guestadmin> mr_steve: ws just thinking that, 8.04 LTS
[00:13] <DasEi> Kingsy101: so if you want the old xorg.conf back, just change files name ; reboot (in cmd-line), was just mentioned for case things get worse
[00:13] <arand> YaManicKill: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2531/screenshotstartupapplic.png http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2531/screenshotstartupapplic.png that'll do?
[00:13] <Alvinware> delly, why some times, ubuntu got routine check, when i boot up my pc?
[00:13] <saif> pls help .... yahoo acoount and pidgin is not working any more
[00:14] <saif> any info`s here ??
[00:14] <Kingsy101> DasEi - yea but if I change the file names back wont the problem come back ? the mouse and keyboard wont work ?
[00:14] <Xchatchatdf_> I made an ext3 partition and i want to copy files from my current ext3 partition.
[00:14] <YaManicKill> arand: perfect, thanks :)
[00:14] <mr_steve> guestadmin: okay, in the version of Gnome 8.04 uses, I believe startup apps are configured in the sessions control panel
[00:14] <saif> :(
[00:14] <mr_steve> guestadmin: but since I don't have that version handy, I can't give you many more details :(
[00:14] <Bmw1000c> hello guys
[00:15] <DasEi> Kingsy101: as they are both not mentioned in xorg, it'll be something else; I wonder why you use framebuffer, but just restart
[00:15] <guestadmin> mr_steve thats probably the issue, I might have been in "sessions" under the tab "startup programs"
[00:15] <saif> gyachi didnt work 2
[00:15] <Bmw1000c> is there any msn client that fully support group messaging and multi location login?
[00:15] <J-_> !uxa
[00:15] <Datz>  Hi, can I remove these URL's from my sources.list ?  Are those URL's gone for good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/225200/
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> but it says that a i don 't have permission to write into it.
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> *-a
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> .
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> Anyone know to give permission to it?
[00:15] <FloodBot1> Xchatchatdf_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <crash2108_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from the CD I downloaded and burned.  I get a command line screen with "/bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off"
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> I am not Root.
[00:15] <sketchyd_> how can i wipe my mysql install
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> *how.
[00:15] <kripz> Why is my JFS raid5 always entering read only mode? Im getting errors in dmesg but i dont know what is causing it. Ive run samsung diagnostic tools on all the harddrives and smarmontools, they all pass. Tested ram with memtest, passed. Heres log: http://pastebin.com/m2f62fbf0
[00:16] <Kingsy101> DasEi - just re-started it still doesnt work
[00:16] <Kingsy101> DasEi - the keyboard and mouse are still not working I mean
[00:16] <bugfly> sketchyd_, have you try sudo apt-get remove mysql
[00:16] <arand> !sudo | Xchatchatdf_
[00:16] <piroko> Anyone know why after I set my fan1_output in /sys to a higher value, it returns to where it was after a second?
[00:16] <DasEi> Kingsy101: back to rootprompt
[00:16] <delly> Alvinware: Thats to check the file system quite simple to check for random errors(which are rare), it can be disabled but its just there for random reasons. Its quite usefull when its needed, or if fragmentation is starting
[00:16] <crash2108_> How can I get this thing to actually install?!  I know the CD works with the same drive on another computer.
[00:16] <guestadmin> mr_steve, seems fine now, I guess it was versio difference, than God that was all, but now Im also prepared for an upgrade. A very educational day on XChat for me indeed. thx
[00:16] <sketchyd_> bugfly - yeah - it throws an error when it tries to stop the server
[00:16] <Datz>  Hi, can I remove these URL's from my sources.list ?  Are those URL's gone for good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/225200/
[00:16] <mr_steve> guestadmin: glad I could help
[00:17] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok..
[00:17] <Kingsy101> DasEi - I am there, what now.. ?
[00:17] <DasEi> Kingsy101: apt-get install pastebinit
[00:17] <vr_mex> after doing sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart i got Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key so how do i generate those system wide keys?
[00:17] <DasEi> Kingsy101: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[00:18] <Kingsy101> pastebinit didnt install
[00:18] <delly> Alvinware: so its like condoms, its just nice have it there fixing random errors in case they ever appere or is just minor.
[00:18] <crash2108_> Anyone know?
[00:18] <piroko> I'm on a macbook pro 5 btw
[00:18] <Alvinware> delly, so, ext3 got fragmentation too, hot to fix it?
[00:18] <Alvinware> delly, i mean how?
[00:18] <Grizmawe> Datz: yes - you can remove them fine, they are just the backport entries. Also gutsy is no longer supported as of april so you might want to consider upgrading to 8.10 (hardy)
[00:19] <Datz> Grizmawe: Ok thanks.  :)
[00:19] <losher> vr_mex: the keys are usually autogenerated when you do a successfull sshd (Note the d at the end of sshd) install. Did that not happen?
[00:19] <th0r> Alvinware: linux drives don't suffer from fragmentation
[00:19] <crash2108_> Excuse me for being a bit of  a linux noob.
[00:19] <DasEi> Kingsy101:is that jaunty / 9.04 ?
[00:19] <Kingsy101> DasEi - oh I think I have it 1 sec
[00:20] <vr_mex> losher: when i did the sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd restart i got a command not found
[00:20] <delly> Alvinware: It barely happens, unless your running a server with several gigs of data going trough raid disk every day, its not going to appere. And the fragmentation is still minor.
[00:20] <Alvinware> th0r, linux drive never ever fragment?
[00:20] <piroko> Ah. Apparently I had to set fan1_manual to 1. Any reason why the fans wouldn't kick in automatically even though my laptop was getting hot?
[00:20] <Kingsy101> DasEi - naw I cant get pastebinit installed
[00:20] <th0r> Alvinware: nope....the way linux records info fragmentation isn't a problem.
[00:20] <losher> crash2108_: noobs are welcome here. Usually you just put the CD in & it boots. So I dunno. Check the md5sum on the cd?
[00:21] <DasEi> Kingsy101:ping googlecom             <<network reachable ?
[00:21] <bobbob1016> For some reason my PC has started shutting down on boot.  I started it in recovery and it seems that it is trying to fsck and then shuts down.  I did remove a drive before, but it booted fine after that.  Any ideas?
[00:21] <th0r> Alvinware: there is no 'defrag' in linux
[00:21] <Almtesh> Hi!
[00:21] <Almtesh> Good…
[00:21] <DasEi> Kingsy101 ping googlecom             <<network reachable ?
[00:21] <delly> th0r, Alvinware: it does have fragment, but it does not suffer from it in contrast to Windows XP where it slowly earts your system alive
[00:21] <losher> vr_mex: then you don't have sshd installed. Do you understand the difference between ssh and sshd? Let me know if not...
[00:21] <Almtesh> th0r no defrag on linux.
[00:21] <arand> Alvinware: they do, but not to any great extent, normally "normal users" do not need to care about it.
[00:21] <Almtesh> th0r but why.
[00:21] <bobbob1016> DasEi: "ping google.com"
[00:21] <Grizmawe> vr_mex: try doing a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[00:21] <Almtesh> th0r It might be useful.
[00:21] <Kingsy101> DasEi - it says unknown host
[00:21] <bobbob1016> DasEi: Without quotes
[00:21] <delly> th0r, Almtesh: Ext4 got defrag
[00:21] <crash2108_> losher, I booted the CD up in the same CD drive just connected to a different computer.  The drive and CD are good.  I don't know what's up.  I guess it can't handle a fresh computer.
[00:22] <th0r> Almtesh: what do you mean why...the use a different way of organizing info on the drive, so there is no defrag
[00:22] <vr_mex> losher: i do have sshd installed i do which sshd and get /usr/sbin/sshd
[00:22] <bobbob1016> sorry, then Kingsy101: "ping google.com" without quotes, try www.google.com too
[00:22] <arand> !defrag
[00:22] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:22] <th0r> thanks arand
[00:22] <Almtesh> Ah, you're speaking about ext4 delly th0r ?
[00:22] <th0r> Almtesh: ext3 and ext4....same game
[00:22] <Almtesh> Of course!
[00:23] <losher> vr_mex: If I were you, I would reinstall it, as it seems like something went wrong with your install....
[00:23] <Kingsy101> DasEi - done but the ping still doesnt work
[00:23] <delly> Almtesh, th0r: Ext3 got no defrag tools, Ext4 got one. Ext4 also got some upgrades over Ext3, but its not entirely stable.
[00:23] <piroko> delly: "Not entirely stable"? Says who?
[00:23] <gareim> should i (can i even?) run clam av across the whole filesystem? or is it enough to do my home folder?
[00:23] <vr_mex> losher: how do i reinstall do i uninstall via synaptic and the re install ?
[00:23] <losher> crash2108_: it's not unheard of. Some hardware can't boot & run Ubuntu. It's rare though. Try googling your make & model number & see if other people report an incompatibility....
[00:24] <delly> piroko: as in "server buisniss" where 1 lost file is a nightmare of doomsday :P
[00:24] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : ifconfig        <<ip assigned ?
[00:24] <piroko> delly: That's fine, but you still didn't say what makes you think it isn't stable :/
[00:24] <losher> vr_mex: yes, that would work fine. Keep an eye out for messages about generating keys when you do the reinstall...
[00:24] <Datz> Grizmawe: I have my updater set to only update when a long term release is ready.   Its more than stable enough for a normal user, but there is some minor issue that still could remain :P So basicaly its stable from a regular point of view
[00:25] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : I try to get it to network to gather more information; it's little weird, you got keyb. working on cmdline, but not on xserver
[00:26] <Grizmawe> Datz: then you should already be running 7.10 - Hardy Herron was the last LTS release. do the rest of the source lines refer to gutsy too or are they hardy?
[00:26] <delly> gareim: the home folder is enough, i highly doubt you put files anywhere else.
[00:26] <Grizmawe> vr_mex: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-July/119928.html
[00:26] <gareim> delly: thanks man. just making sure.
[00:26] <Datz> Grizmawe: I am running 8.04
[00:26] <Alvinware> delly, if i install wine, windows virus may be able to infect my pc, and cause problems?
[00:26] <Kingsy101> DasEi - I am starting to get really annoyed with it, all I wanted to do was get the resolution a little higher and ALL of this is happening
[00:26] <pik}> is there any way to fix so links in pidgin opens in firefox 3.5 and not the old version of firefox?
[00:27] <Kingsy101> the cdrom isnt even ejecting on it...
[00:27] <th0r> Alvinware: viruses could only infect the wine install, they wouldn't get into the linux os itself
[00:27] <dreamy> why is hyperz making my card decrease perfomance instead of boosting ? i got a radeon 7000
[00:27] <piroko> delly: I meant, give me your source for this info
[00:27] <crash2108_> losher I hear I should put a floppy drive in for the install.  There's no workaround for that?
[00:27] <th0r> piroko: good question
[00:28] <losher> Alvinware: that said, I've never seen a report of wine being infected. I think because wine users don't surf from inside wine as a rule...
[00:28] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : then just delete content of the actual xorg.conf and restart with blank one
[00:28] <Datz> Grizmawe: I guess those URL's should have been removed when I updated to 8.04 from 7.10
[00:28] <Grizmawe> Datz: sorry -my bad, 8.04 is the LTS release. In that case the gutsy lines you pasted must be leftovers. Can be safely removed. Make a backup of your sources file if you wish first
[00:28] <losher> crash2108_: I've never heard of that. You got that from google?
[00:28] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:28] <Alvinware> th0r, so, it wouldn't cause any problem at all?
[00:28] <crash2108_> Googled and forum threads come up.
[00:28] <Guest71603> hi, looking for a good program that could erase temporary internet files, cookies and things who slows down the computer, used CG-Cleaner for windows XP but what free program do you folks recommend for ubuntu :O
[00:28] <jfaosdp> how many rpm's do you advise me for an iMac in ubuntu ? :P
[00:29] <delly> Alvinware: only if you run the viruses. Aka running browser from wine, then doing all apps there, etc. And still you could remove the viruses acces from everything outside the wine folder in case you got a strike of paranoia :P
[00:29] <delly> piroko: Mainly a few sysadmin i have been talking to, its just nitpicking anyway......
[00:29] <Datz> Grizmawe: Ok, thanks.  Now if I could only find those URL's in sources.list
[00:29] <th0r> Alvinware: the worst case it would infect the wine install, you would have to reinstall wine. But as losher said...if you use wine you still do your web browsing in linux so windows viruses aaren't a problem
[00:29] <vr_mex> Grizmawe: I would like to have a passphrase bu in the link you posted says: Do not encrypt the private
[00:29] <vr_mex> key with a passphrase -- just hit <Enter> at the passphrase prompt. why?
[00:29] <arand> th0r: actually, since wine has write and read access to your whole home directory (and all other dirs you have rw to) quite nasty things _can_ happen, I've heard about one that dumped .EXE files all over these directories... not directly harmful but annoying and a bugger to clean up afterwards.
[00:30] <Guest71603> hi, looking for a good program that could erase temporary internet files, cookies and things who slows down the computer, used CG-Cleaner for windows XP but what free program do you folks recommend for ubuntu :O
[00:30] <th0r> arand: yeah....it would be a mess, but it wouldn't do any permanent damage
[00:30] <pik}> is there any way to fix so links in pidgin opens in firefox 3.5 and not the old version of firefox?
[00:30] <losher> crash2108_: Normally you don't need a floppy. If the PTB say you need one for your particular hardware as a workaround for a bug, then who am I to say different?
[00:31] <gareim> pik}: maybe try to make 3.5 your default?
[00:31] <arand> th0r: Unless you consider completely thrashing your login with all your configurations "permanent" no.
[00:31] <piroko> delly: So in other words you have nothing but the ramblings of someone who probably doesn't even code ;)
[00:31] <DasEi> pik}: you can set it in buudylist >tools > preferences
[00:32] <Davey_> Hardy is still under LTS, right?
[00:32] <DasEi> Davey_: yes
[00:32] <Alvinware> delly, clamav got both the linux, and windows viruses databases?
[00:32] <th0r> arand: it is highly doubtful it could do all that...it would have to be smart enough to address drive Z and then navigate to your home directory
[00:32] <crash2108_> I don't know what a PTB is, losher...  I'm still getting "/bin/sh: Can’t access tty; job control turned off" despite all these workarounds.
[00:32] <DasEi> !LTS | Davey_
[00:32] <vr_mex> Can system wide rsa and dsa keys be generated to use a passphrase? if not why?
[00:32] <losher> vr_mex: the *host* key just identifies the server. It's a safety feature to alert you in case someone replaces the server with a counterfeit machine. It's different to the *session* keys you use to login. You don't want a passphrase for the host key.
[00:33] <qkgus> hey all. apparently i have a "unknown chipset". can anyone help me make it.. "known"?
[00:33] <sharif> i have problem with Display Could not apply the selected configuration - Method "ApplyConfiguration" with signature "" on interface "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR" doesn't exist, Please Help
[00:33] <Davey_> http://pastebin.com/m754b10db <-- having this problem with upgrading :/
[00:33] <Davey_> (with Hardy)
[00:33] <th0r> arand: unless it was a programming work of art any damage would be limited to ~/.wine/drive_c and folders beneath it.
[00:33] <Kingsy101> ok I have a really weird issue here, my ubuntu PC is having some really weird problems, the cd-rom light is staying on along with the HD light .. it boots up fine but the resolution is wrong and the mouse and keyboard don't work outside of grub
[00:33] <Kingsy101> anyone got an idea ?
[00:33] <pik}> DasEi: oh sorry embarrassing, missed that in settings ;)
[00:33] <losher> crash2108_: PTB == powers that be i.e. people who know more about this than you or I. I'm sorry, but it sounds like you have a hardware problem which I can't solve for you...
[00:33] <arand> th0r: well undoubtedly they already do: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[00:33] <vr_mex> losher: Aaahhhh so that is why!!! :-)
[00:34] <DasEi> pik}: np
[00:34] <losher> vr_mex: the beginnings of wisdom, grasshopper :-)
[00:34] <arand> th0r: I guess since wine willingly shows it all those drives it just writes to everything it can get it's hands on, not that hard.
[00:34] <Kingsy101> DasEi - you got any other ideas about fixing this mouse and keyboard fault ?
[00:34] <vr_mex> losher: so then i do not need to regenerate them just leave them there alone... :-)))
[00:35] <Evelina> I want to filter the feeds in PlanetPlanet. Anyone knows how to filter out content in PlanetPlanet feed aggregator?
[00:35] <sharif> !help
[00:35] <DasEi> Kingsy101: take a look at /var/log/syslog  and kernel.log, without further info it's like a crystall ball
[00:35] <vr_mex> losher: since i moved them can you please give me the permissions they should have so that i place them back again correctly
[00:35] <th0r> arand: and all of that started when he ran some viruses he had collected using wine....god don't help dumb
[00:36] <sharif> !help i have problem with Display Could not apply the selected configuration - Method "ApplyConfiguration" with signature "" on interface "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR" doesn't exist, Please Help
[00:36] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok 1 sec
[00:36] <DasEi> Kingsy101:also your setting using framebuffer often causes trouble, jaunty's xorg is empty by default
[00:36] <Dekko> Hello everybody!
[00:36] <Kingsy101> DasEi - so perhaps reconfigure without framebuffer ?
[00:36] <losher> vr_mex: the host key is usually generated *once* when you install sshd. After that, you generally don't want it to change because if it changes, ssh will worry that it means the machine changed. It's just a security feature. Session keys for logging in are dealt with separately.
[00:37] <Alvinware> so with wine, i can get windows viruses/trojans, and pass it to other persons windows system, when sharing files with them, good, lol.
[00:37] <DasEi> Kingsy101:yes, just for the res only need the  "modes = ... " line
[00:37]  * Dekko is wondering if THIS is a BUG: I have a Geforce 9600GT graphicscard running the latest Nvidia drivers from nvidia. Having two monitors setup as separate X servers... all works NICELY except switching to a text console. That blacks out both monitors. If I use Twinview (stretch) it works.
[00:37] <losher> Alvinware: most of us don't consider the ability to pass on a virus as a good thing :-)
[00:37] <arand> th0r: Well, it was for an experimental reason. However, it does not lessen the fact that wine and viruses may be considerably harmful.
[00:37] <vr_mex> losher: since i moved them can you please give me the permissions they should have so that i place them back again correctly
[00:37] <Kingsy101> DasEi - I will just try and get the keyboard and mouse back first..
[00:38] <th0r> arand: looks like I will have to concede that one
[00:38] <firecrotch> Did anyone else just upgrade firefox 3.0 and is now getting "Assertion Failed - ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!" ?
[00:39] <th0r> arand: would be interested in knowing how those got into /usr without the root password. The files he found in ~/.local/share/applications don't surprise me...that is where wine puts the .desktop files for installed software
[00:39] <jurgs> Is there a way to mount my slave drive so that I can use unetbootin on it. Also i'm using a wubi install of xubuntu on a win98 comp
[00:39] <losher> vr_mex: my host keys are in /etc/ssh and have permissions rw for root for the private part, and rw-r-r for the public part. Does this make sense?
[00:39] <Alvinware> losher, but that's all the servers running in unix/linux do every days by passing those nasty things to windows client, and got them infected, because they don't stop it.
[00:39] <arand> th0r: what I think is that wine needs restrictive sandboxing, tightly confined to ~/wine/c_drive/
[00:39] <sharif> dose someone notice me ?
[00:40] <th0r> arand: agreed...I thought that was the default install
[00:40] <sharif> i just need help ... please
[00:40] <vr_mex> losher: shure thank you very much ! :-)
[00:40] <dis> Hello all,
[00:40] <dis> My problem is sound for the internet. The sound is coming from my USB card. I broke the sound card 6 months ago. My windows XP is working fine(audio and video). I d/l'ed adobe flash 10 and java. No success.  The video is good, but the audio is off for my browser. Any thoughts or ideas?
[00:40] <losher> sharif: loud & clear. Ask your question...
[00:41] <sharif> !help i have problem with Display Could not apply the selected configuration - Method "ApplyConfiguration" with signature "" on interface "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR" doesn't exist, Please Help
[00:41] <arand> th0r: it is not, it has full rw to everything the user has through the Z: device, which is kinda scary...
[00:41] <losher> arand: I agree. I'm surprised more people don't do that..
[00:41] <sharif> I got a display problem
[00:41] <th0r> arand: that is....I wasn't aware of that. Will have to look into limiting that 'feature'
[00:41] <sharif> losher: can you help on display problem ?
[00:42] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok well not using framebuffer didnt change anything
[00:42] <losher> sharif: sorry, I know nothing about gnome.... :-(
[00:42] <Kingsy101> DasEi - what should I look for in syslog ?
[00:42] <arand> th0r: losher: and it is not a simple procedure either >_<
[00:42] <Alvinware> losher, got winlux?
[00:42] <DasEi> Kingsy101:error ?!
[00:42] <Kingsy101> heh ok 1 sec
[00:42] <Alvinware> losher, winlux/winux?
[00:43] <FairFight> how can i see if cronjob fail's its tasks?
[00:43] <losher> Alvinware: googling it now...
[00:43] <sharif> losher: what i should do then .. Ubuntu is gnome
[00:43] <losher> sharif: try asking in #gnome. Try googling the error message. Don't give up without a fight...
[00:43] <dis> !help My problem is sound for the internet. The sound is coming from my USB card. I broke the sound card 6 months ago. My windows XP is working fine(audio and video). I d/l'ed adobe flash 10 and java. No success.  The video is good, but the audio is off for my browser. Any thoughts or ideas?
[00:44] <Kingsy101> DasEi - I don't know where to start there are thousands of lines here
[00:44] <Alvinware> losher, gnome is a x windows server? can i use kde in ubuntu, and switch between them?
[00:45] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, no ... Gnome is a Desktop Environment :)
[00:45] <crash2108_> This is such bullshit
[00:45] <dabj01> Alvinware, yes
[00:45] <Kingsy101> DasEi - if I can pastie the logs do you think you will be able to help ? if so I will just use a live CD ?
[00:45] <th0r> arand: well...now you got me spooked. I could dump wine but I need dreamweaver
[00:45] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, KDE is a Desktop Environment too ... and yes, you can switch between both freely :)
[00:45] <crash2108_> Is it a problem that my harddrive is unpartitioned (brand new), losher?
[00:45] <Alvinware> ibuclaw, How?
[00:46] <losher> Alvinware: you can use either. And there are dozens more if you don't like those...
[00:46] <DasEi> Kingsy101:could do, but what happens if you just start blank ?
[00:46] <Davey_> how can I downgrade python? if it failed to install
[00:46] <Kingsy101> DasEi - hmm I suppose I could but I have ALOT of stuff installed..
[00:46] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, logout ... and when you enter the Login Screen, you should see the Word 'Session' in the  (bottom left?) hand corner.
[00:46] <Kingsy101> what will happen to all of my files and programs ?
[00:46] <losher> crash2108_: normally, as part of an install, the installer will walk you through partitioning the drive, so no. I repeat: I believe you have a hardware incompatibilty and there may not be a workaround....
[00:47] <DasEi> Kingsy101:I speak of blank xorg
[00:47] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:47] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, select it and it will present a list of possible logins ... You only need to be concerned about KDE and Gnome options.
[00:47] <Kingsy101> DasEi - oh that sounds cool but how do i do that ?
[00:47] <sharif> losher: OK thanks
[00:47] <arand> th0r: well so far only people that have intentionally run viruses have been affected (afaik) so currently the problem might not be that big, and as long as you are selective with the apps that runs in wine I guess the safety might be satisfiable, it might become a considerable hole in the future though, if nothing is done...
[00:47] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf,  delete every content (rootprompt)
[00:47] <karatekickz> I'm missing System -> Preferences -> Sessions  could someone help me?
[00:48] <Alvinware> ibuclaw, so, i can't change it with-out log-in/log-out?
[00:48] <Kingsy101> ok 1 sec
[00:48] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, correct ... although you will be able to access the Gnome/KDE software in both DE's
[00:49] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:49] <Kingsy101> DasEi - what happens here btw ? you delete the contents of that file and it should boot fine ?
[00:49] <ProfOak> What's the 'best' flash plugin for Firefox? I know there are three, and Adobe always seems a little laggy.
[00:49] <cafree> Recently, Evolution stopped getting new mail and I'm not sure why.  Send/Receive is disabled.  How do I figure it out?
[00:49] <th0r> arand: agreed. If kompozer didn't crash on tables I could dump dreamweaver, but until there is a decent wysiwyg html editor I will stick with wine
[00:49] <losher> crash2108_: does windows run on your new hardware?
[00:49] <Kingsy101> DasEi - i.e it makes a new default one ?
[00:49] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, ie: you can run KTorrent in both KDE and Gnome.  But the application may look slightly different when running from different DE's
[00:49] <losher> Alvinware: winlux appears to be a news site. Was there something specific you wanted me to see there?
[00:50] <DasEi> Kingsy101 :it's empty by default, so should boot fine
[00:50] <donavan_> is there a way to do a batch rename ... like take filename1.mp3 and make it 1.mp3
[00:50] <mechtech> ktorrent is pretty killer
[00:50] <Pici> donavan_: man rename :)
[00:50] <arand> th0r: don't we all ;) myself I keep windows installs for gaming.
[00:50] <losher> donavan_: there is a rename command, but it's complex and not for beginners...
[00:50] <Alvinware> losher, no, i'm just thinking of combining linux, and windows into a new os.
[00:51] <losher> Alvinware: good luck with that....
[00:51] <SuspectZero> hey there
[00:51] <ProfOak> Alvinware: How are you going to do that?
[00:51] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:51] <SuspectZero> i installed apache2 and it starts on boot up but i dont want it to. how can i remove that from bootup?
[00:51] <mechtech> alvinware: I was just wondering the same thing...how?
[00:51] <Alvinware> linux, and windows is written in c programming language?
[00:51] <ProfOak> He's probably a leet hax0r with the MS code
[00:51] <crash2108_> I don't know, I don't have a windows CD.  I was considering just doing that because it's an HTPC and I just want to run boxee or something.
[00:52] <New> ummm hello?
[00:52] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok I emptied the file and I am booting now
[00:52] <Kingsy101> 1 sec
[00:52] <ibuclaw> donavan_, in your example:  the answer would be: rename 's/^filename//' filename1.mp3
[00:52] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:52] <ibuclaw> donavan_, to cover a list of files: rename 's/^filename//' *
[00:52] <mechtech> alvinware:  ok, but they use different file systems, boot routines, there's the whole registry thing  etc...
[00:52] <losher> new: just ask a question...
[00:52] <jdu> Does anyone here recommend ebox?
[00:53] <New> Ummm excuse me?
[00:53] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:53] <Kingsy101> DasEi - the mouse and keyboard still don't work
[00:53] <chris___> !info > gdesklets
 wants you to know: Retrieve information on a package: !info <package>
[00:53] <sharif> losher: why you think its gnome problem ?
[00:53] <New> I want to install Ubuntu....but my computer gives me error messages
[00:53] <losher> crash2108_: I'm just wondering if your hardware is faulty. Has anything run successfully on it before?
[00:53] <ramsey1> hello ppl
[00:53] <ibuclaw> donavan_, to cover a list of files in separate directories:  find /path/to/dir -type f -iname "*.mp3" | xargs rename 's/^filename//'
[00:53] <chris___> !info gdesklets
[00:53] <jdu> jurgs, does it appear with:  sudo sfdisk -l
[00:53] <New> Ummmm I need help
[00:53] <Alvinware> mechtech, include all the file system, let user choose when install.
[00:54] <Kingsy101> DasEi - any other ideas ?
[00:54] <losher> sharif: it was a guess, based on the error message: "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR". Have you googled it yet? Maybe there's a known fix?
[00:54] <donavan_> Pici and losher ... thanks I want even sure if there was a rename ... its been a while since I used the command line ... last time I renamed things with the command line I had to move the file to a new name rather than renaming it directly
[00:54] <crash2108_> No, brand new.
[00:54] <jurgs> jdu no i have tried doing that and it doesn't detect anything
[00:54] <jdu> jurgs, does the bios report it?
[00:54] <DasEi> Kingsy101 :so I have no further idea on that ,as it does on cmd-line, check your logs, are they usb or ps2 ?
[00:54] <Alvinware> mechtech, or just use the best one, ext3/4, for no fragmentation.
[00:54] <mechtech> new:  write down the errors, then type them into paste.ubuntu.com
[00:54] <New> Umummm can anyone help me?
[00:54] <Kingsy101> DasEi - they are usb
[00:55] <harjot> how i would i substitude a command like ''wine'' to redirect to something else?>
[00:55] <donavan_> ibuclaw ... thanks for the command just saved me some time ... I was breaking out the howto's and you can to the rescue
[00:55] <ProfOak> Does anyone have a preference of flash plugins for Firefox? My flash always seems to lag while full screen.
[00:55] <mechtech> new: then paste the url into here so people can see the erors and offer help
[00:55] <Alvinware> take the good of both, and match it into one.
[00:55] <ibuclaw> donavan_, no probs ... just needs a small bit of regexp knowledge, that is all ;)
[00:56] <losher> crash2108_: Then I would try a different OS, so you can (maybe) verify the hardware. Try PCBSD...
[00:56] <ProfOak> Alvinware: Your cause is valiant, but I think you're not really thinking this through.
[00:56] <jurgs> jdu not sure I can chose to boot from hard drive but it only gives me one option, I have an intel i815 mobo
[00:56] <mechtech> alvinware: why not just develop for linux?  Why the interest in combining win and lin?
[00:56] <New> Its hard to copy errors from the boot menu
[00:56] <DasEi> Kingsy101 :you might check for usbutils, and check the logs, as they were not mentioned in xorg, it#s gonna be usb
[00:56] <New> I'm not that computer saavy
[00:56] <jdu> jurgs, sometimes the bios or the jumpers may be configured in such a way that it won't tell linux it exists; does win98 see it?
[00:57] <Alvinware> profOak, look flash/java in add/remove.
[00:57] <mechtech> new:  we would need to see the error messages to offer any intelligent advice
[00:57] <New> I get Logical Block errors....what are those
[00:57] <mechtech> new: dead drive?
[00:57] <ProfOak> Alvinware: Your preference of flash plugin is add/remove?
[00:57] <New> Whats a dead drive?
[00:57] <meho_r> blist
[00:57] <sharif> losher: its a bug ..
[00:57] <donavan_> ibuclaw ... ive been working on my command line stuff but like I said last time I was really working in a command line envornment was back before the WWW was even around and you had to do everything in gopher and telnet
[00:58] <rootlinuxusr> How can I replace icons from the menu? the theme I installed changed the default ubuntu logo, and I'd love to change xchat's icon....
[00:58] <losher> sharif: well done. Is there a workaround?
[00:58] <jurgs> jdu yes, ok i did sudo sfdisk -l and it shows up as /dev/sdb1 i guess i was spelling something wrong
[00:58] <mechtech> new: a drive that has released the magic smoke...will no longer function
[00:58] <Alvinware> ProOak, or u could remove it first in firefox, then visit flash page, and got it installed again.
[00:58] <jdu> jurgs, so, yes, you can mount it then :)
[00:58] <mike> someone got problems with firefox ????
[00:58] <jurgs> jdu but how?
[00:58] <New> Ummmm I think all drives on my computer function
[00:58] <trevor_> i just installed openoffice 3.1 with ubuntu tweak and synaptic, and the splash screen still says open office 3.0 but the version is correct (3.1) how do i change that?
[00:59] <ProfOak> Alvinware: So that means you use adobe?
[00:59] <jdu> jurgs, what file system is it?  where would you like it to be mounted?
[00:59] <SuspectZero> i installed apache2 and it starts on boot up but i dont want it to. how can i remove that from bootup?
[00:59] <jdu> jurgs, does it not show up in gnome?
[00:59] <New> What drives are required for ubuntu?
[00:59] <arand> New: could be your hard drive physically going down, but try running fsck from a livecd (provided you cannot boot the normal install) to tryto fix the errors
[00:59] <New> Ummmm....Fsck....? I'm not that computer saavy
[01:00] <Spikemcc> Firefox on ubuntu hardy heron 8.04.3 LTS x64 is unstable ... 3.0.11 and 3.5.1 does the same ...
[01:00] <mechtech> new: disable your floppy drive in the bios on your computer and try again
[01:00] <jdu> SuspectZero, you can use the update-rc.d command
[01:00] <arand> New: so what is the problem you are having... is ubuntu refusing to start?
[01:00] <New> Ummmm I don't have a floppy drive....and how do I do that?
[01:00] <jurgs> jdu it is a FAT 32 and it doesn't matter where it is mounted, I'm just trying to mount it to install a fresh distro
[01:00] <Spikemcc> got an idea to repair firefox ?
[01:01] <Alvinware> Prooak, if adobe got linux version, then good, if not goto add/remove, synaptic package manager, or plugin remove, and visit any website created with flash, to get the pop up install the plugin.
[01:01] <jdu> jurgs, hmm.  so:  mount -t fat /dev/sdb1 /your/mount/point
[01:01] <Spikemcc> hey !!!
[01:01] <Alvinware> ProOak, so many way, man.
[01:01] <Spikemcc> ho !!!
[01:01] <Spikemcc> noobs !!!
[01:01] <Spikemcc> help please !!!
[01:01] <ProfOak> Alvinware: ProfOak*
[01:01] <New> The disk starts.....but when I try to install.......every drive overwrite reports a logical block
[01:02] <jurgs> ok and do you know if this will allow me to use unetbootin on it?
[01:02] <New> The only thing Ubuntu is ever able to install is the clock
[01:02] <mechtech> new: reboot the computer...during the first few seconds of booting, the computer screen will tell you what key to press to enter the bios settings...in there, you will see options for disabling your floppy drive (even though you don't have one) you will also find boot options...tell the bios not to try to boot to a floppy
[01:02] <FairFight> */30 * * * * /usr/bin/php -f /home/user/test.php - shouldnt this work out in the crontab?
[01:02] <losher> Spikemcc: less fanfare, more problem description please...
[01:02] <New> OK...I'll try
[01:02] <mechtech> ok...keep us posted
[01:03] <mechtech> new: ok...keep us posted
[01:03] <Spikemcc> losher firefox crash when open
[01:03] <RuneMaximus> I'm looking to dual boot my windows vista with ubuntu, i have vista ultimate 64 bit installed and have downloaded ubuntu 9.04 Desktop  amd64 iso about to burn to disc. i have my vista OS on a 250gb sata drive i have a 1.5tb drive for my media(games/movies/music) and a 40 gb drive that is free that i want to install ubuntu to. but i still want to be able to boot into my vista when i need to. just want to get info before i jump into ins
[01:03] <jdu> jurgs, not, sure, that's really designed for usb sticks.  Why not do an actual install?
[01:03] <linuxguy2009> Anyone know of any way that I can lock the mouse pointer in a selected window for my 3 year old niece to use Tux paint without messing with my other stuff by accident?
[01:03] <arand> losher: I want that quote in !fanfare ;)
[01:04] <losher> arand: :-)
[01:04] <Spikemcc> it crash randomly mostly
[01:04] <Some_Person> !fanfare
[01:04] <Spikemcc> but most on start
[01:04] <jdu> linuxguy2009, hmm, no.  But you could do something like start Xephyr full screen then run tuxpaint in that
[01:04] <losher> Spikemcc: which version of OS. Which version of firefox?
[01:04] <SuspectZero> jdu, anything else? is there a file i can just edit to remove apache2 from starting?
[01:04] <booksbuggy> my gnome network manager keep on showing "device is unmanaged" on the wired connection how do i fix it?
[01:04] <Spikemcc> 8.04.3 LTS x64 > firefox 3.0.11 and 3.5.1
[01:04] <Alvinware> ProfOak, Oh, Yeah, Prof., of-course i didn't think all the linux, and windows mix-up things deeply, that's why i didn't create it, and just wonder, cause game in windows more, linux for security, and got a lot of things in the middle, like more free softwares on both side, more free to configure, and so on...!
[01:05] <mechtech> runemaximus: during installation of ubuntu options will be offerd for dual boot...choose the correct drive for installing ubuntu, then tell the installer to put the GRUB loader onto the same Master boot record with Vista...voila!
[01:05] <lmiller> I want to purchase a pci wireless adapter card
[01:05] <arquebus> linuxguy2009- or you could create a user account for your neice with very low permissions
[01:05] <lmiller>  Which is more like to work with minimum hassle: a dlink, linksys or netgear wireless-g pci adapter?
[01:05] <linuxguy2009>  jdu: What is Xephyr?
[01:05] <jurgs> jdu my cd drive is busted, is there a way to install on my master drive then?
[01:05] <mechtech> lmiller:  I have had great success with linksys cards
[01:05] <jdu> SuspectZero, yes, update-rc.2 is the correct way.  but you can simply change the appropriate file name (w/ apache in it) of in /etc/rc.2/ ala the instructions in the directory
[01:05] <RuneMaximus> thanks mechtech tried to isntall osx86 previously and totaly messed things up...
[01:05] <ProfOak> Alvinware: You'd be wasting time trying to put them together. Eventually, you'd start from scratch, or give up.
[01:06] <mechtech> runemaximus: Ouch!  and no problem
[01:06] <jdu> linuxguy2009, an X server like X.org but you can run it in a window or full screen and could use it cover everything else up.
[01:06] <Spikemcc> lmiller if you want something real good and don't mind a little hassle try usb alfa 500 mw it's dangerously hot when used well
[01:06] <revlo> hi is there a command line tool that tells me that there are new packages avabile without using sudo (eg what you can put in your motd) - like the notification apllet under gnome by default
[01:06] <linuxguy2009> oh cool
[01:06] <losher> Spikemcc: the only obvious thing I see there is that x64 is known to be less stable than 32 bit. It would be a pain to downgrade. Try asking on #firefox?
[01:06] <linuxguy2009> thanks
[01:06] <booksbuggy> my gnome network manager keep on showing "device is unmanaged" on the wired connection how do i fix it?
[01:07] <linuxman410> hey is there a command you can use in terminal to tell if u are running 32 or 64 bit
[01:07] <revlo> linuxman410: uname -a should tell you
[01:07] <jdu> linuxman410, uname -a
[01:07] <linuxman410> thanks
[01:07] <barqers> can someone help me? everytime I bootup I don't get a splash screen! I've added it to /usr/lib/usplash/chrometext-splash.so, But when I add it into startupmanager, close it, and reboot, I get nothing! only text...
[01:07] <Alvinware> ProfOak, lol, wasting time for dreaming something, and not doing it, a bad thing, no for me, not every thing have to be done, it's accord to oneself judge, and life is more complicated than any thing else
[01:08] <jurgs> jdu thanks for the help, i will try this on another day
[01:08] <lmiller> mechtech: thanks
[01:08] <jdu> jurgs, ok, sorry if I could have helped more
[01:08] <FairFight> ubottu: cronjob
[01:08] <jdu> barqers, dell optiplex?
[01:09] <Alvinware> ProfOak, uwasting time heretoo, and watis uprofin?
[01:09] <mechtech> booksbuggy: try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/279262
[01:09] <losher> Alvinware: ProfOak: getting seriously off-topic guys....
[01:09] <booksbuggy> okey
[01:09] <mechtech> lmiller:  no problem
[01:09] <sharif> losher: what do you mean workaround ?
[01:09] <jurgs> jdu your help was greatly appreciated
[01:09] <barqers> jdu: Nope, It's my own built computer
[01:09] <ProfOak> Alvinware: I wish I could reply to that... Could you please rephrase that or something?
[01:10] <losher> sharif: sometimes there is a way to avoid a bug, or a patch or setting that avoids it....
[01:10] <losher> Alvinware: ProfOak: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please if you want to continue...
[01:10] <barqers> jdu: Do you want the hardware?
[01:11] <ProfOak> losher: It's fine, I'm pretty much done with that
[01:11] <jdu> barqers, oh well, but every optiplex I have used hasn't showed the splash screen w/o a workaround, but it's sure to be a different problem.  On those, it's a matter of increasing the video buffer in the bios
[01:11] <mechtech> <--about to install win 7 to my virtualbox...woohoo
[01:11] <Alvinware> ProfOak, You're Professor in field of what?
[01:11] <jfaosdp> hi
[01:11] <ProfOak> Alvinware:pokemon, and we're done
[01:11]  * Spikemcc hit mechtech fool
[01:11] <losher> Alvinware: drop it, or move it. Or risk being bounced....
[01:11] <jfaosdp> how can i see my cpu temp ºC ? cat /proc/acpi/ ? :S
[01:11] <mattgyver> I cant connect to the cups interface from another machine on my network, i keep getting '403 forbidden'.  Could anyone help?
[01:11] <jdu> barqers, I always except hardware if people are giving it away :) but no...
[01:11] <barqers> jdu: Oh, snap. Okay, I'll give that a try. Thanks!
[01:12] <ForzaPalermo> guys quick question
[01:12] <mechtech> !ask
[01:12] <Alvinware> Losher, what's bounced? beeing bombard by none stop im?
[01:12] <lstarnes> jfaosdp: try /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[01:12] <ForzaPalermo> i have a large 2nd hdd that i want to use JUST FOR STORAGE
[01:12] <losher> Alvinware: an operator can ban you. Very easily...
[01:12] <lstarnes> jfaosdp: you could also install lm-sensors and check using the command "sensors"
[01:12] <ForzaPalermo> is ext4 the best to format it in
[01:13] <they> losher: are you an operator?
[01:13] <sharif> losher: well, not sure still checking ..
[01:13] <Alvinware> Losher, i can change my ip, and username.
[01:13] <losher> ForzaPalermo: it's not a good choice for a beginner. Stick to ext3 for another couple of releases....
[01:13]  * losher is not an operator.
[01:13] <ForzaPalermo> losher: may i ask why
[01:13] <lstarnes> Alvinware: evasion of bans results in longer, tougher bans
[01:13] <ProfOak> Alvinware: Don't make anyone dislike you, this is supposed to be a helpful chat
[01:13] <jfaosdp> lstarnes: my lm-sensors are crazy ... look http://pastebin.com/m7932b7b2  . I cant find anything into /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/
[01:14] <ForzaPalermo> im using ext 4 for my main operating system
[01:14] <losher> ForzaPalermo: my opinion is that it hasn't been tested enough yet...
[01:14] <ForzaPalermo> and its working great
[01:14] <losher> ForzaPalermo: that's fine. No need to change. It's just much easier to support users on ext3, because we know how it behaves...
[01:14] <Alvinware> Istarnes, how? even mac address can be change.
[01:15] <lstarnes> Alvinware: mac addresses are not relevant on the internet as a whole.  Those are only relevant for local networks
[01:15] <Spikemcc> you can change your mac on linux by command line
[01:15] <mechtech> why are you guys arguing?
[01:15] <losher> Alvinware: even if you change ip & username, if you come back talking about the same off-topic, we'll catch on. We're not *that* dumb...
[01:16] <rootlinuxusr> Is there a way to force delete a folder(System Volume Information, and RECYCLER) - even rm -rf /media/drive/* does not remove it...
[01:16] <mechtech> Spikemcc:  why did * tell you to hit me earlier?
[01:16]  * Spikemcc hit mechtech cause windows is bad for brains
[01:16] <Alvinware> losher, of-course, uallnotdumpguys, lol, me too. :-D
[01:16] <jfaosdp> lstarnes: why i have nothing into /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/  :S
[01:17] <mechtech> spikemcc:  oh...that makes sense then
[01:17] <lstarnes> jfaosdp: I don't know
[01:17] <koro> ProfOak: i use adobe but same problem (and as a bonus, it sometimes simply stops working and i have to restart firefox [i'm on x86_64])
[01:17] <koro> i didn't know there was any other option
[01:17] <Alvinware> Istarnes, How could i be banned for long?
[01:17] <ProfOak> koro: Have you tried any alternatives?
[01:17] <nerdy_kid> any one here set up a FTP server before? im having some trouble
[01:17] <Spikemcc> mechtech I don't wanna be locked in anymore, linux is too open for me so I can do almost everything
[01:18] <booksbuggy> mechtech, thanks for the help
[01:18] <lstarnes> Alvinware: operators can recognize behavioral patterns
[01:18] <koro> ProfOak: i'm not sure what would those be?
[01:18] <map7> can anyone here help me with a debian broken packages problem?
[01:18] <rootlinuxusr> nerdy_kid: Try vsftpd
[01:18] <Alvinware> Istarnes, then change behaviour.
[01:18] <mechtech> booksbuggy:  with what?  remind me please
[01:18] <koro> i remember using something else way back, but it didn't work at all
[01:18] <Alvinware> lol.
[01:18] <mechtech> Spikemcc:  I aspire to that level...still just a noob
[01:18] <lstarnes> Alvinware: it's impossible to completely avoid being detected when evading bans
[01:18] <booksbuggy> mechtech, the gnome network manager problem
[01:18] <koro> ProfOak: (some time ago there wasn't even an adobe version for 64-bit)
[01:19] <mechtech> booksbuggy:  all better then?
[01:19] <ProfOak> koro: Let me find some names. I distinctly remember having an option of 3 packages for installing flash.
[01:19] <booksbuggy> mechtech, yes
[01:19] <Alvinware> This chat room wasn't helpful, firefox 3.5 is beta, a lot of say it's not, and mix.
[01:19] <mechtech> booksbuggy:  great...glad I could help
[01:19] <Apocapus> Ok I rebooted and went to the Bios Bootup area but I couldn't find the Floppy Drive....
[01:19] <koro> ProfOak: but the alternative i had found in the ubuntu guides didn't work at all
[01:19] <koro> that was a few years ago tho
[01:19] <Apocapus> Where is the Floppy Bootup?
[01:19] <pleed___> Hi
[01:19] <lstarnes> Alvinware: firefox 3.5 has been released
[01:19] <losher> Alvinware: the ban doesn't last for long. Just long enough to discourage bad behavior
[01:19] <nerdy_kid> rootlinuxuser something messed up with the ports i think, someone here helped me for like an hour yesterday and still couldnt figure it out; need a pro lol
[01:19] <Guest62600> can you putt windeos midea player on ubuntu linux
[01:19] <Alvinware> Istarnes, look it in add/remove by yourself.
[01:19] <koro> Guest62600: no
[01:19] <nerdy_kid> Guest62600 no
[01:20] <pleed___> Is it possible to include already activated luks and lvms in the ubuntu installation process?
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Guest62600: yes in Wine
[01:20] <lstarnes> !ff35 | Alvinware
[01:20] <Spikemcc> mechtech learn to install ubuntu with the minimal cd in the command line, and use applications in the command line the more you can ...
[01:20] <Guest62600> how
[01:20] <jdu> Guest30590, there are alternatives though
[01:20] <rootlinuxusr> rootlinuxusr - ahh, then Im no root. =/ xD
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Guest62600: and there are better alternatives
[01:20] <Apocapus> Ummm....can anyone help me?
[01:20] <Guest62600> i have tryd wine
[01:20] <koro> sebsebseb: then you would be running it on windows, not on ubuntu :)
[01:20] <koro> oh, wine, nevermind me
[01:20] <mechtech> apocapus:  #1 try to use the same login everytime...that way we can hopefully reflect on what the issue was and also so you can build a reputation...#2 that may have been because you disabled the floppy drt...are you still having trouble?ive...more to the poin
[01:20] <ProfOak> koro: I've found names. Swfdec SWF, Adobe Flash, Gnash SWF.
[01:20] <koro> was thinking virtualization
[01:21] <koro> ProfOak: i guess i'll try those
[01:21] <Alvinware> Istarnes, the name is not firefox?
[01:21] <koro> 'cos i'm tired of adobe
[01:21] <Spikemcc> if with that you don't have learned a lot there is a problem ...
[01:21] <Apocapus> No...I get logical block messages
[01:21] <ProfOak> Apocapus: Just ask a question, and someone may have an answer
[01:21] <koro> ProfOak: have you tryed swfdec or gnash?
[01:21] <ProfOak> koro: No, that's why I came in here. Different opinions and whatnot.
[01:21] <PROject-Emerald> Uh, I have a bit of a problem
[01:21] <Apocapus> So I was told to go reboot the system and look at the bios
[01:21] <lstarnes> Alvinware: shiretoko is the codename for firefox 3.5 without the official branding
[01:21] <Guest62600> well because i seems to not realy be truly abil to play and look at tv shows on outher websites
[01:21] <Alvinware> istarnes, and it got bug in it.
[01:21] <Apocapus> but I didn't find the Floppy drive
[01:22] <lstarnes> Alvinware: then report the bug
[01:22] <Apocapus> So...I don't know if I went to the wrong area or if it's another problem
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> My monitor after about an hour or so of use shuts off (Green light goes yellow) and I have to do a hard reset
[01:22] <Alvinware> Istarnes, other did, but still no fix.
[01:22] <ProfOak> Apocapus: What were you trying to fix initially?
[01:22] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: normally floppy drive is called 3.5 in disk in the boot option
[01:22] <booksbuggy> well in the bio
[01:22] <Apocapus> Im trying to install ubuntu
[01:22] <Alvinware> Istarnes, go bad, god, and bad, switch.
[01:22] <mechtech> profoak: he was installing ubuntu
[01:22] <lstarnes> Alvinware: how long ago was the bug filed?  what was the bug?
[01:22] <Apocapus> 3.5?
[01:22] <ProfOak> My mistake...
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> Any fixes for this problem?
[01:23] <Apocapus> Where in the Boot Menu?
[01:23] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, what happens if you hit ctrl+alt+f1  when that happens?
[01:23] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: well should be the first one
[01:23] <Alvinware> istarnes, youtube fullscreen.
[01:23] <nerdy_kid> cant list directory structure in FTP server when accessed via external IP.
[01:23] <booksbuggy> well on my old computer it is
[01:23] <PROject-Emerald> Nothing works when it happens, the display goes away like the monitor is powered off.
[01:23] <Apocapus> boot menu or Bios?
[01:23] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: on the first tab bios
[01:23] <Alvinware> Istarnes, add/remove stated beta.
[01:23] <PROject-Emerald> All sound goes away, etc
[01:23] <ProfOak> koro: Good news, I think you can install all of them and chose which you want to use on the fly.
[01:23] <Apocapus> 3.5 in the first tab?
[01:23] <lstarnes> Alvinware: what about Synaptic?
[01:24] <Apocapus> In Windows XP?
[01:24] <Alvinware> Istarnes, ttry it urself, man.
[01:24] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: well if the newer computer didn't change the name already
[01:24] <lstarnes> Alvinware: also, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:24] <revlo> nerdy_kid: firewall? -> passive mode (command PASV or passive in cli-client) might help
[01:24] <Alvinware> istarnes, 9.04.
[01:24] <nerdy_kid> revlo tryed those
[01:24] <Apocapus> I'll go look for 3.5
[01:24] <Apocapus> I'll try
[01:24] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: on the removable device part i think
[01:24] <lstarnes> Alvinware: I'm still using 8.04 so I can't try for myself
[01:24] <Alvinware> Istarnes, problem with 9.04?
[01:24] <nerdy_kid> revlo spent hour yesterday with somebody in here: still stuck
[01:24] <epalm> sooo using esata meaning putting a line in fstab, yes?
[01:24] <lstarnes> Alvinware: check what it says in synaptic
[01:25] <Alvinware> Istarnes, codename, longhorn, come out vista.
[01:25] <revlo> nerdy_kid: and a firewall? ftp data (ls and stuff) uses a lot of ports - you may check it with netstat -ntaup or something - or check your firewalllogs
[01:25] <Darwin{LTS}> hello I'm having some issue to install vlc   vlc: Depends: vlc-nox (= 1.0.0-1~ppa3) not going to be installed
[01:25] <losher> nerdy_kid: permissions problems?
[01:25] <nerdy_kid> losher no
[01:26] <Guest62600> are there any people who live in the usa .and that really know how can i look at tv-show's on the web.nbc-nbc hulu  and so-on plese pm me let meknow
[01:26] <nerdy_kid> revlo FTP uses 21 and 20 TCP im pretty sure both are forwarded
[01:26] <nellmathew> i know this is off-subject but when launching swiftfox in jaunty, anyone know why it shows "starting swiftfox" (with the hourglass thing) and then it disappears?.. can't seem to launch it.
[01:26] <nerdy_kid> revlo tryed forwarding all ports just for the heck of it, still didnt work
[01:26] <Guest62600> i am doen adobe flash player but it is not working
[01:27] <karatekickz> im having a random problem where compiz seems to crash when switching between workspaces using effects... the everything disapears accept the the desktop wall paper applications are still working however as I can hear music in my speakers thoughts?
[01:27] <Guest62600> have doen
[01:27] <Alvinware> Istarnes, maybe it's finial for windows, but not linux/ubuntu,i guess, cause bugs, and name.
[01:27] <karatekickz> except not accept ;)
[01:27] <PROject-Emerald> nobody? -_-
[01:27] <lstarnes> Alvinware: could you please tell me what version of firefox-3.5 is in synaptic?
[01:27] <Guest62600> HELLO ANYBODY
[01:27] <nerdy_kid> nellmatthew try launching it from terminal, it should say why its crashing
[01:28] <Darwin{> vlc: Depende: vlc-nox (= 1.0.0-1~ppa3) pero no va a instalarse
[01:28] <Darwin{> E: Paquetes rotos
[01:28] <Darwin{>  while trying to install vlc, any clue, I googled but nothing happened
[01:28] <Alvinware> Istarnes, 3.5.1
[01:28] <Alvinware> Istarnes, newess.
[01:28] <lstarnes> Alvinware: does that say that it's a beta?
[01:28] <Guest62600> ANY PEOPLE FROM THE USA .THAT CAN HELP ME PLESE
[01:29] <cooper77z> sure
[01:29] <lstarnes> !caps > Guest62600
[01:29] <nerdy_kid> Guest62600 ill try to help
[01:29] <Alvinware> Istarnes, youtube fullscreen in windows too?
[01:29] <Alvinware> Istarnes, no?
[01:29] <d0wn3r> yo
[01:29] <lstarnes> Alvinware: it's real fullscreen foe me
[01:29] <lstarnes> *for
[01:30] <nerdy_kid> cant list directory structure in FTP server when accessed via external IP.
[01:30] <d0wn3r> does anyone here have any experience with the DELL UBUNTU release?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> d0wn3r: not personally, but quite a lot of other people have had good experiences
[01:30] <Alvinware> Istarnes, why not just upgrade, why make it one os, got 2 firefox?
[01:30] <d0wn3r> oh hey sebsebseb
[01:30] <mattgyver> does anyone know how to make conky show cpu temperature in Fahrenheit?
[01:31] <lstarnes> Alvinware: ubuntu has a different update policy
[01:31] <lstarnes> Alvinware: ubuntu 9.04 came with firefox 3.0 so it will stay with firefox 3.0 as the main firefox
[01:31] <lstarnes> Alvinware: but 9.10, the next release, which isn't out yet, will likely ship with 3.5
[01:31] <Seven_Six_Two> Can anyone recommend a single use (a la dd) partition backup front-end with ssh build in?
[01:31] <Seven_Six_Two> *built
[01:32] <fission61> ia m running ubuntu and just installed WINE, ia m trying to run teamviewer (a window app), it takes forever to load but i did get it to randomly show up at one point, what gives?
[01:32] <losher> Seven_Six_Two: rsync will run over ssh and can be used to backup an arbitrary set of files...
[01:32] <Alvinware> istarnes, oh yeah just fixed it.
[01:32] <cooper77z> can I use firefox addons in epiphany? Stupid question I know, but sometimes one can actually do those type of things
[01:32] <losher> Seven_Six_Two: come to think of it, you can run dd over ssh too if needed...
[01:32] <Pici> fission61: #winehq would be the best place to ask wine questions. Also, have you seen the appdb?
[01:32] <epalm> in 9.04, is esata supposed to "just work" ?
[01:32] <Pici> !appdb | fission61
[01:32] <Alvinware> Istarnes, no change to the default.
[01:32] <Seven_Six_Two> losher, will rsync image the partition? I'm not looking for cli right now
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> losher, I'm looking for a frontend for a friend to use on his laptop.
[01:33] <Alvinware> Istarnes, anyways, got bugs, i'm not using it, the old is good.
[01:33] <mechtech> see y'all...about to win 7 my face off
[01:33] <mcpancakes> hey all, I've got a slight issue with firefox- some (seemingly most) fonts in Firefox don't display. information that's printed when I run Firefox from the terminal (http://pastie.org/private/jgfrhoj125aro4woq0zqag) leads me to believe that it's an issue with my cairo and/or pango packages.
[01:34] <Alex_21> Hello
[01:34] <pik}> i just did a clean install of jaunty and i made a partition with mount point /media/storage. i can see the partion and enter it but i dont have any access. how to fix?
[01:34] <cooper77z> thats kind of interesting mcpancakes
[01:34] <Alex_21> Does anyone know of any good poker/Cribbage stand a lone games
[01:34] <Alex_21> ?
[01:34] <Alex_21> Please
[01:34] <masterkoppa> pik} : did you mount it as root?
[01:35] <mechtech> alex_21: talk about off topic...just a sec
[01:35] <Alex_21> For Ubuntu
[01:35] <losher> Seven_Six_Two: no, rsync copies files, not partitions. Check out http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/info.html or maybe http://www.mondorescue.org
[01:35] <Alex_21> Of course
[01:35] <losher> !backup
[01:35] <masterkoppa> pik} : if not check for permision errors it the most common error
[01:35] <jdu> pik}, what fs is it?
[01:35] <pik}> reiserFS
[01:35] <losher> Seven_Six_Two: see also ubottu above
[01:35] <mcpancakes> cooper77z: I was thinking I maybe ought to reinstall both of cairo and pango?
[01:35] <Seven_Six_Two> that's a lot of links. Thanks all!
[01:36] <jdu> pik}, hmm, is the problem because your user does not own the files?
[01:36] <pik}> jdu probably
[01:36] <jdu> pik}, including the top level dir?
[01:36] <Alex_21> How do I do a search for packages from CLI?
[01:36] <Alex_21> Please
[01:36] <losher> Alex_21: apt-cache search <string>
[01:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Alex_21, apt-cache
[01:36] <Pici> Alex_21: apt-cache search searchterm
[01:36] <mechtech> Alex_21:  http://www.brothersoft.com/dd-poker-for-linux-97737.html
[01:36] <cooper77z> I don't  know, but I was thinking that all the libraries don't work without direct control in the terminal?
[01:36] <jdu> pik}, so you can probably fix it by running: chown -R youruser:youruser /media/storage
[01:36] <pik}> ok trying
[01:37] <jdu> pik}, as root
[01:37] <jdu> sorry
[01:37] <mattgyver> Alex_21, sudo aptitude search <pkg>
[01:37] <mattgyver> oops, sorry
[01:37] <pik}> i figured that out myself jdu ;)
[01:37] <jdu> :)
[01:37] <pik}> jdu: that did the magic.
[01:37] <pik}> thanks mate
[01:38] <jdu> yeah!
[01:38] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, I experience the same thing also with 'sudo terminal', as well as launching it from its shortcut.
[01:38] <cooper77z> does firefox work normal in gui?
[01:40] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, all the elements in web pages load except for some text.
[01:40] <spursncowboys> hello everyone. If I was brand new to linux and got an ubuntu book and crunchbang on my laptop, would the book help me out?
[01:40] <cooper77z> on gnome or kde or something else?
[01:40] <mcpancakes> GNOME
[01:41] <mcpancakes> normal intrepid
[01:41] <cooper77z> hmmmm....
[01:41] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[01:41] <Alex_21> Good day
[01:41] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, it will help in most cases as their both linux
[01:41] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, also if I'm not mistaken their both based on debian
[01:42] <cooper77z> can you install the broadscope font libraries from applications library or synaptic?
[01:42] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, but i would recomend you read their documentation and base anything you do on that
[01:42] <CapaH> Ok let me explain what I am trying to do. I want to create an ip address on *this* machine - like <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> or whatever -- I want it to be so that anything sent to *that* ip address, on port 22 --- goes to a different ip address, on port 99 --- how can I do that?
[01:42] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, that way any support they can give you will be usefull for you
[01:43] <CapaH> in this way I can ssh to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>instead of ssh to blah@_other_ip -p 99   -- removes the need to specify port
[01:43] <spursncowboys> Well really I want to buy my nephew the book and send him a disk and let him at it on his dell ispiron 2650
[01:43] <bucky> how come crunchbang doesn't have an irc channel on freenode?
[01:43] <spursncowboys> it has 256 mb and I read that is not good enough for ubuntu
[01:43] <Pici> bucky: they do. #crunchbang
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> CapaH, /etc/hosts
[01:44] <CapaH> ... of course
[01:44] <pik}> is there any way to use mouse4 (back) mouse5 (forward) with nautilus?
[01:44] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, the book would be good reference, but if your looking for small size try xubuntu
[01:44] <CapaH> Seven_Six_Two, : You can tell etc/hosts an IP address and PORT ?
[01:44] <bucky> oh cool 50 users
[01:44] <masterkoppa> its made for this type of cases
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> that I'm not sure of...
[01:44] <spursncowboys> would that be closer to the referrence type books for ubuntu?
[01:45] <losher> CapaH: Seven_Six_Two: no ports in /etc/hosts, sorry...
[01:45] <Seven_Six_Two> squid?
[01:45] <CapaH> ah thats what I need
[01:45] <CapaH> I need the port
[01:45] <bucky> spursncowboys: the crunchbang wki and forums
[01:45] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, yeah since its the same base code, you would only need to change references in gui tools and you can intall them on top if necesarry
[01:45] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, 'sudo aptitude search broadscope' nor searching for 'broadscope' in synaptic yields any results. what is that package?
[01:46] <CapaH> Is there a way to assign additional ips to this machine? If so I can modify ssh_config to use default ports
[01:46] <cooper77z> not code
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm sure squid would do it, although I don't know how easy it is to set up
[01:46] <CapaH> ... aliases
[01:46] <miroslav_> amagaaaaaaad ubuntu's kewl! :D
[01:46] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, if you decide to go for crunchbag it would be better to follow their documentation, rather than the ubuntu book
[01:46] <pik}> is there any way to use mouse4 (back) mouse5 (forward) with nautilus?
[01:47] <cooper77z> but I think if you search ubuntu forums under google gonts your edition you will find the package you could install to enable fonts in firefox
[01:47] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, besides online documentation is always better than a book since its almost allways up to date
[01:47] <Pici> spursncowboys: Best to ask in #crunchbang if you're looking for help with it, as it is not an official Ubuntu variant.
[01:47] <spursncowboys> masterkoppa: I didn't find an actual paperback book for that, and it said it is ubuntu
[01:47] <cooper77z> not gonts fonts
[01:48] <spursncowboys> thanks pici, they are helpin, I wasn't sure if anyone was in there to answer earlier.
[01:48] <CapaH> yep got it - using alias + /etc/hosts -- got it working
[01:48] <mcpancakes> I tried uninstalling/reinstalling msttcorefonts, but that did not fix it. it's not that no fonts show, only some don't.
[01:48] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, you would probably find more documentation regarding its WM openbox, which is the base of chrunchbag
[01:48] <cooper77z> there is a master font installer on the forums
[01:48] <Seven_Six_Two> CapaH, how'd you do the alias part?
[01:48] <bucky> spursncowboys: documentation is usually of date by the time it makes it to print so everything is done on the internet now
[01:48] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, I've persanally used openbox and its very light so its perfect for this case
[01:49] <cooper77z> not code
[01:49] <bucky> out of date
[01:49] <Seven_Six_Two> oh nm
[01:49] <cooper77z> maybe google font firefox ubuntu forums
[01:50] <CapaH> Seven_Six_Two: ifconfig eth0:0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:50] <CapaH> Just creating an internal ip visible to just this machine
[01:50] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, also have you considered a ram upgrade?
[01:50] <CapaH> then I can do whatever port forwarding I want on it
[01:50] <cooper77z> I am sure there is a tek on that one I have used it myself
[01:50] <Seven_Six_Two> CapaH, nice
[01:51] <Guest93624> hi, i installed the latest nvidia driver from nvidias website, if i install ubuntu's nvidia driver thats in the repo, will it get replaced or do i have to delete it first?
[01:51] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, no matter what distro you use it will allways bring a speed increse and since memory is so cheap these days it wont cost much
[01:51] <bucky> how much ram does Xbuntu use?
[01:51] <traemccombs> I have a duo core or something and from cat /proc/cpuinfo I see 2 entries like this: model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          4300  @ 1.80GHz  I was wondering if anyone here knows how to get 2 copies of World of Warcraft on linux, running on different CPUS"?
[01:51] <WolfBlood> I kind of need some help. I was running on Ubuntu 8.10 fine and my sound was perfectly fine and after I did an upgrade to 9.04 my sound is not working at all.
[01:51] <masterkoppa> bucky: if im not mistaken its 128 MB
[01:52] <Crewsr3> for some reason firefox 3.5 has not been updated on my computer.  I'm still on firefox 3.0
[01:52] <masterkoppa> bucky: its made for low memory footprint
[01:52] <linux_stu> i used brasero to rip an audio cd, and it gives me a .toc and a .toc.bin file.  how can i burn these to a blank cd to make a second audio cd?
[01:52] <Crewsr3> I even ran update manager manually
[01:52] <bucky> spursncowboys: 192 MB RAM to run the Live CD or 128 MB RAM to install
[01:52] <bucky> Xbuntu
[01:52] <spursncowboys> bucky: not that much but I wanted the closest thing to what a beg. ubuntu bk would have. If xubuntu is closer than crunchbang, then that is the one I want. I just don't know
[01:53] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, xubuntu is much closer than crunchbag
[01:53] <cooper77z> did that work mcpancakes?
[01:53] <bucky> spursncowboys: do you want 1500 users to help you here or 50 users to help you in #crunchbang ?
[01:54] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, also since its a first time user he wil thank that extra support he can get from this chat and the forums
[01:54] <spursncowboys> ok thanks masterkoppa
[01:54] <roguerobot> hi all
[01:54] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, GL
[01:54] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, unfortunately, the ubuntu forums use one of the fonts that is not being loaded.
[01:54] <cooper77z> huh?
[01:54] <spursncowboys> yeah I am a huge fan of ubuntu. That is why I wanted a lite ubuntu
[01:54] <roguerobot> should i ask my newbie question here or on another channel?
[01:55] <cooper77z> maybe switch to beginners ubuntu help mcpancakes?
[01:55] <meglo> Where in GConf can I edit it so Metacity doesn't show the whole window when I drag it around? I just want an outline due to laggy tearing.
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !ask |  roguerobot
[01:55] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, some fonts are not being displayed. the ubuntu forums' font is one of them.
[01:55] <hugoboss> I can not see programs if i minimize them.
[01:55] <hugoboss> what can i do?
[01:56] <cooper77z> select it all and watch the colors reverse mcpancakes
[01:56] <WolfBlood> Anyone help please?
[01:56] <masterkoppa> WolfBlood, whats the problem?
[01:56] <iceblock> lol i've only used 125gigs out of 300gigs this month
[01:57] <WolfBlood> Master: After updating to 9.04 from 8.10 my sound has not worked.
[01:57] <hugoboss> please help, I can not see minimized programs on the desktop.... what can i do??
[01:57] <rambo298> WolfBlood: dude did you search the forum?
[01:57] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, nah it's not a color issue. I ctrl-a and I see the same thing as if I were highlighting whitespace.
[01:57] <benny__> hellooo
[01:57] <WolfBlood> Rambo: Yes, could not find anything.
[01:57] <mcpancakes> it knows where the text is, it seems, but it isn't displaying it.
[01:57] <roguerobot> i'm trying to get ubuntu to use my DVD drive as DVD-R/W.  Right now it's using it as DVD ROM apparently.  I'm trying to burn a movie to a DVD.  Brasero says "use the right plugin" or something to that effect.  Any pointers?
[01:57] <artillerytx> Hey guys would it be worth running ubuntu server on a uverse connection
[01:57] <iceblock> maybe i need to download harder
[01:57] <benny__> how make a team in kubuntu community?
[01:57] <masterkoppa> WolfBlood, you will probably be better of looking in the forums, as Im not really good with sound issues
[01:57] <cooper77z> did you highlight some of the text to see if the text became visable?
[01:58] <cooper77z> mcpancakes?
[01:58] <rambo298> WolfBlood: hold on
[01:58] <WolfBlood> Master: I shall look again.
[01:58] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, yes. that's what ctrl-a does.
[01:58] <Seven_Six_Two> WolfBlood, I heard about some people having success removing all pulse audio packages, reinstalling the ubuntu meta packages that get pulled and rebooting
[01:58] <cooper77z> try using the mouse
[01:58] <mcpancakes> same thing.
[01:58] <cooper77z> hmmmm...
[01:58] <hugoboss> cooper, can i use ipod on ubuntu??
[01:58] <rambo298> WolfBlood: go here ... try what one suggested http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136670&page=2
[01:59] <Crewsr3> Anyone know why Firefox 3.5 has not been pushed out via update manager?
[01:59] <cooper77z> of course you can
[01:59] <WolfBlood> Thank you Rambo, Seven.
[01:59] <hugoboss> How??
[01:59] <hugoboss> which programs should i use??
[01:59] <cooper77z> I don't know, but I am sure it's possible
[01:59] <traemccombs> is there a way to specify what processor an application runs on with duocore?
[02:00] <hugoboss> ok
[02:00] <cooper77z> bye for now, I am going for a bike ride :)
[02:00] <ltgg> newbie here: GDM crashed " could not start Xserver"  ... am logged in as root in recovery mode ... what command sequence to try recover GDM? thnks anyone
[02:01] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, browse to /var/log and cat the gdm log file to see what the error is.
[02:01] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, sorry, not cat.  less
[02:03] <arand> Crewsr3: 3.5 still not ready, I guess...
[02:03] <ltgg> seven: how to "cat the gdm log file"  command?
[02:05] <Crewsr3> arand, any quess as to why 3.5 is not ready for ubuntu?
[02:05] <arand> ltgg: less /var/log/gdm/:0.log.1
[02:05] <Kira> So which desktop environment is supposed to be the most lightweight again? CDE or XDM?
[02:05] <Kira> (among CDE, XDM, GNOME, and KDE)
[02:06] <Seven_Six_Two> cd /var/log/gdm && less :0.log
[02:06] <mechtech> when burning an ISO onto a disk, can I put other folders/files in the burn folder?
[02:06] <bucky> Kira: i like icewm
[02:07] <ltgg> seven: got a bunch of output i do not understand
[02:07] <simonsez1> hi everyone
[02:07] <jrdave> hey guys... a quick question for u... I have an old PC with 512MB RAM... debian (free -m) is reporting 504MB only! Any explanations? (the video is NOT shared)
[02:07] <mechtech> jrdave: rounding...I have 1024, but Ubuntu says only 1001
[02:08] <bucky> Kira: and you can install icewm-gnome-support to get all the functionality of gnome
[02:08] <jrdave> mechtech: oh!
[02:08] <jrdave> mechtech: so if I convert the amount manually it show be correct (from bytes)?
[02:09] <Kira> bucky: how does it compare to Xfce?
[02:09] <mechtech> jrdave: makes sense to me
[02:09] <jrdave> mechtech: lemme try
[02:09] <linuxman410_> does anyone else having problems with 64 bit flash player
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, what irc client do you use? (typing my nick makes the conversation easier to follow for me)  you could put the lines that look like errors on pastebin.com and give us the link it returns. Without knowing what the error is...
[02:10] <bucky> Kira: Xfce is nice if you like that flavor.. it's kinda got it's own feel
[02:10] <jrdave> mechtech: NO... its in KB and when divided by 1024 it shows 504MB!!!
[02:10] <bucky> Kira:  192 MB RAM to run the Live CD or 128 MB RAM to install Xbuntu
[02:11] <mechtech> jrdave:  why would you divide by 1024?
[02:11] <rambo298> jrdave: using free or system monitor?
[02:11] <jrdave> mechtech: coz the default output is in KB
[02:12] <Kira> Can either be used with NX?
[02:12] <ltgg> seven: using Xchat ... cannot pastebin output ... do not know ho to do that from where I am ( recovery prompt )
[02:12] <mechtech> jrdave:  you need only move the decimal place three places to the left to convert from KB to MB
[02:13] <mechtech> when burning an ISO onto a dvd, can I add other files/folders to the burn folder, or would that make the disk not boot when I am done?
[02:13] <jrdave> mechtech: 1MB=1024KB and not 1000
[02:13] <rambo298> ahhh the famous "MB" ... riddle me this ... is an MB= 1000 * 1024 * 1024?  or 1000 * 1000 * 1000?  or 1000 * 1024 * 1000?
[02:13] <arand> !pastebinit | ltgg if you have net
[02:13] <stovicek> jrdave: marketing in the storage world isn't entirely accurate as many find with more often with hard drives. same holds true for memory. you probably have somewhere around 512000 bytes in marketing terms, that's 512MB, not 504MB. It all depends on how you divide the bytes, either by 1024 or 1000.
[02:14] <bucky> Kira: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=402684
[02:14] <jrdave> stovicek: BIOS reports 512MB
[02:14] <unitypunk> hey.
[02:14] <mechtech> jrdave: as I said before and stoveicek has more verbosely described...rounding
[02:14] <stovicek> jrdave: because bios divided it by 1000. Either way, you have a half gig.
[02:15] <mechtech> jrdave: therefore, to convert KB into MB, simply move the decimal point three places to the left
[02:15] <audigy7x> new here
[02:15] <unitypunk> is there a secure way to share my media online?
[02:15] <stovicek> jrdave: I've got 4Gb. Bios reports it as 4GB. But I see 3830MB. It's still the same 4GB, just divided by a different factor.
[02:15] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, if you use xchat, just type the first few chars of a nick and hit tab. it will either autocomplete for you or give you a list of possible choices (so hit a few more characters) and tab again
[02:15] <Kira> bucky: cool. :D
[02:15] <Kira> Thanks
[02:15] <unitypunk> so when im not on my local network i can acess them?
[02:15] <jrdave> stovicek: I see
[02:17] <jdu> stovicek, lot's of hardware, pci devices, agp, etc could be using it too
[02:17] <unitypunk> do samba shares work over the internet aswell as local?
[02:17] <ltgg> seven: now have lost my root prompt ( BTW the crashed system is not the one I am on in this chat ) guess i will just reinstall OS ... lesson learned .... do NOT enter commands you do not understand  ... 'help' from someone on this channel a month back  trying to solve a minor problem ... CRASH!
[02:17] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, lol. sorry about your luck...
[02:17] <SuperBert> samba will work over the internet, but it's not secure so you should put the traffic inside a vpn
[02:18] <kotsu> Hey FunkyHat!
[02:18] <unitypunk> is that hard?im still pretty new.
[02:18]  * kotsu smacks funkyHat
[02:18] <ltgg> seven: thanks for your response ... often on this channel i feel invisible.
[02:19] <darthhelmet> I saw the sign, and it opened up my eyes I saw the sign.
[02:19] <darthhelmet> hi all
[02:19] <bucky> unitypunk: it's hard if you have a hard time reading docs or googling
[02:20] <SuperBert> unitypunk: depends on your skill/experience/equipment at hand
[02:20] <unitypunk> and any computer anywhere can acess a vpn?
[02:20] <Seven_Six_Two> mechtech, if you *can* add to the burn folder, you aren't burning the image (getting the original data back).
[02:20] <unitypunk> cause like, i want my girlfriend to have acess too.
[02:20] <blognewb_> hey guys is there a guide somewhere on installing servers to ubuntu via command line? howtoforge has GUI but im trying to install packages in my vps
[02:21] <SuperBert> unitypunk, how many different users need the info?  is the info security sensitive?
[02:21] <unitypunk> not at all
[02:21] <unitypunk> just my movie collection
[02:21] <unitypunk> and music
[02:22] <Pici> blognewb_: Have you seen: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html  Its quite helpful
[02:22] <blognewb_> Pici: I haven't yet, is it dumb/stupid/noob friendly?
[02:22] <SuperBert> unitypunk, to make it easy install gadmin-samba to setup your samba.  if you want it open over the internet, have your firewall map in ports 137,138,139.  Have the other user connectio to \\ipaddress\share
[02:23] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, np. if you're looking for some good reading material (aside from free online docs) I recommend "Linux Administrator Handbook". It's pink and has a cartoon on the front, but it's excellent
[02:23] <unitypunk> then they could mount it as a virtual drive right?
[02:24] <SuperBert> unitypunk, be aware that samba via internet is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks and who can see traffic between you and other user gets the samba password.  samba password does not have to be same as a login user's password.  samba user does not have to be the same as a login user.  you should make the share read only access.
[02:24] <SuperBert> unitypunk, maybe make your share readonly to public and share over the internet....
[02:24] <SuperBert> unitypunk, yes easily mounted as a drive in windows or linux
[02:25] <SuperBert> windows = map z: \\ipaddy\share
[02:25] <unitypunk> that sounds perfect.
[02:25] <WolfBlood> How do I open alsa mixer in terminal?
[02:25] <SuperBert> linux = mount -t cifs //ipaddy/share /mnt/somemountpoint (install smbclient, smbfs first)
[02:25] <masterkoppa> WolfBlood, type alsamixer
[02:27] <sbp_>  8816
[02:27] <unitypunk> gadmin-samba is the package name righta/
[02:27] <twig11> What's the proper procedure to create a user whose home directory already exists in /home?
[02:28] <SuperBert> gadmin-samba, you can also find under add/remove programs
[02:28] <unitypunk> well im in terminal right now.
[02:28] <Ghoti__> twig11: probably 'adduser'
[02:28] <unitypunk> and i have root.
[02:28] <censushq> the sound card and wireless dont work unless i boot in recovery mode
[02:28] <jdu> twig11, and perhaps deleteing the home dir first
[02:28] <unitypunk> tried apt-get install gadmin-samba and it wasnt found.
[02:28] <censushq> is there a permenaent fix to this
[02:28] <SuperBert> sudo apt-get install gadmin-samba
[02:29] <unitypunk> i already did su.,
[02:29] <lvlefisto> twig11: i am a user too, but, what i would do is rename the folder, then create the user, and then rename again the folder to match the user's login name
[02:29] <Seven_Six_Two> useradd -d /home/username username
[02:29] <jdu> lvlefisto, twig11 one could just copy the files
[02:29] <Seven_Six_Two> the -d sets what the homedir should be
[02:30] <bucky> gadmin-openvpn-server and gadmin-openvpn-client are good ones too
[02:30] <SuperBert> do you have the universe/multiverse installed?
[02:30] <unitypunk> uhh
[02:30] <unitypunk> i think so.
[02:30] <unitypunk> i should?
[02:30] <lvlefisto> jdu: that too =)
[02:30] <twig11> lvlefisto: jdu: and if I just copied files over the permissions would be right if the new user's name was the same as the old one?
[02:30] <sephy> Is it me or does firefox always lock up when you try to upload pictures to imageshack, tinypic, flickr?
[02:30] <unitypunk> if the files are already smb shared.
[02:31] <unitypunk> do i have to do anything to them?
[02:31] <sephy> I get the "grey out" effect
[02:31] <Ghoti__> twig11: you'd want do chown -R user:user /home/user/
[02:31] <gareim> sephy: i dont have that problem
[02:31] <jdu> twig11, probably, but not always.  You might have to use a chown command afterword
[02:31] <gareim> sephy: but it happens to me on flickr
[02:31] <jdu> like Ghoti__ said
[02:31] <lvlefisto> twig11: you can always set the permissions to the folder using chmode -R
[02:31] <sephy> I can't get it to work for Imageshack photobucket and tinypic
[02:31] <SuperBert> edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list, find the line with "main" and add " universe multiverse".  save the file.  apt-get update.  apt-get install gadmin-samba
[02:31] <censushq> ever since i installed virtualbox ose (since removed) my sound card and wireless dont work unlexx i boot to recovery mode
[02:31] <SuperBert> if the files are already shared, it's a firewall issue
[02:32] <Flannel> twig11: Just use adduser, and tell it to not to create a homedir, it's one of the options.
[02:32] <masterkoppa> censushq, have you checked the forums for a solution?
[02:32] <SuperBert> gadmin-samba gives you a nice gui to add/remove shares, add/remove users, etc. as it relates to samba
[02:32] <twig11> Ghoti__: lvlefisto: okay I think I can handle that. Flannel: what is the syntax for that?
[02:32] <censushq> what is the url for the forums
[02:32] <censushq> i didnt check there first
[02:32] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, useradd -d /home/username username
[02:33] <masterkoppa> censushq, ubuntuforums.org
[02:34] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: How do I set whether that user is a desktop user or an admin?
[02:35] <masterkoppa> twig11, if you want him to be an admin add him to the admins group already created
[02:35] <Flannel> twig11: Actually, adduser already doesn't overwrite home if it exists.
[02:35] <Flannel> Seven_Six_Two: There's no reason to use useradd, adduser is a much better method
[02:35] <twig11> Flannel: I hope you're SURE.
[02:35] <censushq> kernel update destroyed sound and wifi
[02:35] <Flannel> twig11: check the manpage yourself if you don't believe me.
[02:35] <censushq> fixed by booting into recovery mode
[02:36] <Maximo> !hello
[02:36] <masterkoppa> censushq, the try reinstalling the kernel package
[02:36] <twig11> Flannel: be back in a minute.
[02:36] <Ghoti__> censushq: have you tried reinstalling your kernel?
[02:36] <tuxedo> os[Linux 2.6.31-rc3-zenmod3 x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[4 x AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.30GHz] mem[Physical: 7.8GB, 95.9% free] disk[Total: 18.5GB, 61.6% free] video[nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB]
[02:36] <tuxedo> !!!!!!!
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Flannel, is the result different?
[02:36] <Flannel> twig11: You can throw in --no-create-home too if you want
[02:37] <censushq> how do i revert to older kernel or reinstall kernetl package
[02:37] <tuxedo> i want to disable a module from the initramfs
[02:37] <Flannel> Seven_Six_Two: Sometimes.  adduser has more defaults built in, etc.  useradd is much lower level.
[02:37] <Ghoti__> censushq: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-<version>
[02:38] <Seven_Six_Two> Flannel, I noticed more switches on the manpage. do you happen to know if they both use the skeleton dir for new users?
[02:38] <mechtech> I want to burn an ISO onto a disk along with other files and folders...will that prevent the disk from being bootable?
[02:38] <Seven_Six_Two> mechtech, what kind of iso?
[02:38] <unitxt> What's the recommended way to install Adobe Reader on 9.04?
[02:39] <MagicFab> mechtech yes
[02:39] <mechtech> seven_six_two: bootable operating system iso
[02:39] <Seven_Six_Two> mechtech, if you're choosing to burn a data cd/dvd and adding the iso, it wouldn't be bootable anyhow
[02:39] <MagicFab> unitxt .deb from their site
[02:40] <mechtech> magicfab: yes it will prevent the disk from booting?
[02:40] <jefinc> unitxt: I believe ubuntu comes out of the box with a reader, just doesn't have 'adobe' on it
[02:40] <MagicFab> mechtech not prevent... as SST says a data dvd wont boot anyways
[02:40] <blognewb_> hey guys how do i install "make" and gcc via Putty?
[02:40] <blognewb_> im scared
[02:40] <Flannel> Seven_Six_Two: they both do, yes.
[02:40] <Crash2108_> losher, you here?
[02:40] <Seven_Six_Two> mechtech, it's not the adding of files and folders at burn time that stops it from being bootable.
[02:41] <Seven_Six_Two> Flannel, thanks
[02:41] <MagicFab> jefinc corretc. evince it is
[02:41] <unitxt> MagicFab: it's a .bin file...
[02:41] <unitxt> jefinc, I use Document Viewer at the moment and it's good.   Installed Fedora 11 with no problems whatsover.  Thanks.
[02:42] <mechtech> seven_six_two:  Oh...I see
[02:42] <censushq> i am rebooting i may return
[02:42] <Seven_Six_Two> if you want to add files (don't know if you can do this) you would have to mount the iso as loopback device and add the files *before* burning. any comments on whether that would work?
[02:44] <gartral> Seven_Six_Two: ive done it, but it can be slower thana program just burning the contents of the iso too disk
[02:45] <Seven_Six_Two> gartral, mounting the iso and then burning a data disc of the contents + whatever?
[02:46] <mechtech> thanks guys, I'll just burn the image and retreive waht I want after wards...
[02:46] <gartral> Seven_Six_Two: is slower than just burning the contents to a cd..
[02:48] <mechtech> how do streamer?you restart g
[02:48] <mechtech> how do you restart gstreamer?
[02:48] <censushq> i am back
[02:49] <censushq> reinstalling kernel fixed wireless but not sound
[02:49] <censushq> the sound speker icon tray has a red no sign
[02:49] <censushq> when i click on it it gives an errror that there is no sound device
[02:49] <censushq> is there a trick to fix the sound
[02:50] <censushq> no volume control gstreamer plugins/and or devices found
[02:50] <censushq> is the error
[02:50] <censushq> the kernel update broke my sound
[02:50] <censushq> and wireless
[02:50] <censushq> i fixed the wireless
[02:50] <donavan_> any ideas why mp3s get all mixed up when I copy them to my mp3 player ... have some audio books and kinda need them to be in order from 1 to whatever but when I copy them over they get all jumbled and this happens on more than one mp3 player
[02:51] <twig11> Flannel: I can go adduser /home/username username
[02:51] <twig11> ?
[02:52] <Flannel> twig11: if you want it to create a homedir somewhere other than /home/username, you can specify it. Otherwise, it uses that format by default (see the man page)
[02:52] <twig11> Flannel: so just adduser username?
[02:52] <Chun1> gparted is listing /dev/sda3 (which is mounted as /home/db) as having 53GB used out of 72 -- but properties for /home/db shows only 17GB being used. Something I'm missing?
[02:52] <censushq> what keyboard shortcut gets to a terminal window
[02:52] <pelmen> Guys!, after installing electric sheep my s/mplayer does not work anymore. I get the error libx264.so.67 not found...anyone ?
[02:52] <bucky> donavan_: ls -f in your mp3 dir and it will show how they really are without sorting
[02:52] <Chun1> (trash=empty)
[02:53] <donavan_> bucky ... ok thanks
[02:53] <eaglestar> hi i upgraded recently and now when i go to youtube i just have a white screen
[02:53] <Flannel> twig11: If you want no options, just the default for everything, yeah
[02:54] <eaglestar> i have amd 64 9.04 and did updates
[02:54] <jefinc> !info libx264.so.67
[02:54] <pawan> hi
[02:54] <eaglestar> i had installed xine-ui as well
[02:54] <unitypunk> are there ports i need to foward for smb to work over the web?
[02:54] <bucky> !info libx264.so.65
[02:54] <pawan> how to add new wallpapers in ubuntu default directory
[02:54] <MadCowBoy> Can anyone help me installing flash 10 in firefox 3.011  I tried everything I could find on the help forums, nothing seems to be working,
[02:54] <pawan> where are they stored
[02:54] <bucky> !info libx264-65
[02:55] <jefinc> pawan: in /usr/share/backgrounds
[02:55] <eaglestar> ubottu is that for me
[02:55] <pelmen> yeah, I had to add some launchpad repos, but i set everything back later
[02:55] <pawan> cant copy but
[02:55] <pawan> Error opening file '/usr/share/backgrounds/343.jpg': Permission denied
[02:55] <MadCowBoy> oh ya, Ubuntu 9.04  Flash installs no problem, but in firefox, all about:plugins says is "flash 9 r 999
[02:56] <twig11> Flannel:  so just to make double-sure I'm understanding you correctly, if I want to create a new user with a pre-existing directory as its home directory, I can just go adduser username and that will cause the user to be created, using the existing directory as home instead of overwriting it?
[02:56] <Seven_Six_Two> Flannel, I just read in the LAH that useradd is faster and less error prone (and it's recommended) but the man pages for both useradd and adduser both recommend adduser. lol.
[02:56] <eaglestar> i had flash running without a hitch now it doesn't show anything how do i fix it
[02:56] <MadCowBoy> its been two days i;ve been trying.
[02:57] <padd1> does anyone know anything about the wii?
[02:57] <PROject-Emerald> sex appeal.
[02:57] <padd1> i bric(11:54:22) padd1: hey i've bricked wii. cant open wad manager. how do i get it to work?
[02:57] <padd1> (11:54:35) padd1: i've got preloader and can open up hbc.
[02:57] <PROject-Emerald> that is all.
[02:57] <Seven_Six_Two> padd1, sure. I like guitar hero and tennis
[02:57] <padd1> k pm. seven six 2
[02:57] <portablejim> Apparmor policy for dhclient3 (filename: sbin.dhclient3) is causing network manage to fail to connect. The solution is to link to the disabled folder in /etc/apparmor.d/ .  I was being facetious because that was a very general question.
[02:58] <pelmen> hmm weird i fixed that by creating symlink from so.65...it did not work before
[02:58] <MadCowBoy> Flash 10 help anyone please?
[02:58] <Apocapus> Ummm I can't find the Floppy Drive in my computer.....I don't think there is one.....but I have alot of drives....I have Flash Drive readers...Sd readers...and so on...could that cause problems with Ubuntu?
[02:58] <padd1> ok. can anyone help me, i've got a bricked wii?
[02:59] <donavan_> bucky is there a way to resort the files by file name instead of how they are
[02:59] <MadCowBoy> Hi padd1, this Ubuntu not wii
[02:59] <mechtech> !topic padd1
[02:59] <WolfBlood> I give up, this is friggin retarded.
[02:59] <bucky> apt-file would be a cool feature for ubottu.. it was the one thing that really sold my on apt-get
[02:59] <MadCowBoy> WolfBlood: whats up?
[02:59] <jefinc> !ot padd1
[02:59] <eaglestar> MadCowBoy, what arch do you have?
[02:59] <jefinc> !ot | padd1
[02:59] <padd1> madcowboy, there's no one on wii channel. mabe u can sign in to wii channel?
[02:59] <WolfBlood> Mad: After upgrading to 9.04 from 8.10, my sound died.
[02:59] <bucky> donavan_: i don't know about that one.. it would be cool to find out if you could
[02:59] <MadCowBoy> 9.04
[03:00] <MadCowBoy> padd1: no bud, I can;t help you with your wii
[03:00] <padd1> yo k
[03:00] <MadCowBoy> eaglestar: 9.04
[03:00] <WolfBlood> Mad: It does not read as muted and says I have 75% volume but no sound at all, sometimes an occasional beep from my system.
[03:00] <Seven_Six_Two> WolfBlood, did you try uninstalling all of the pulse audio packages, then reinstalling the ubuntu-* packages that also get uninstalled then rebooting?
[03:00] <Apocapus> ummm....Can having CF Drives....SD Drives and so on affect Ubuntu install?
[03:00] <twig11> Flannel: Seven_Six_Two: so just to make double-sure I'm understanding you correctly, if I want to create a new user with a pre-existing directory as its home directory, I can just go adduser username and that will cause the user to be created, using the existing directory as home instead of overwriting it?
[03:00] <twig11> Should that work?
[03:00] <jefinc> padd1: try in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[03:01] <eaglestar> yeah i understand but what processor do you have
[03:01] <WolfBlood> Seven: I don't know how to uninstall all the pulse audio packages + reinstall.
[03:01] <Apocapus> I AMD Athlon
[03:01] <Apocapus> I mean Sempron
[03:01] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, I think there are more recommended options for adduser. you can see all of them with    man adduser
[03:01] <donavan_> ok anyone know if there is a way to re-sort how files are saved on my mp3 player its playing them out of order
[03:01] <mechtech> Apocapus:  try disabling the USB drive boot option, and/or unplug the readers etc
[03:01] <Andorin> I've had a problem for a while with my keyboard shortcuts. I ask for anyone who knows about them to look at this thread- and please actually read the OP. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214508
[03:01] <Seven_Six_Two> WolfBlood, are you using gnome?
[03:02] <Apocapus> So The USB drive readers do affect the install
[03:02] <WolfBlood> Seven: Yes
[03:02] <MadCowBoy> check the WolfBlood  This troubleshooting guide helped me, Its for 8.10, but the steps should be the same.
[03:02] <Apocapus> But I don't know how to disable them their built in
[03:03] <Seven_Six_Two> run synaptic, search for "pulse" and completely remove them. you'll get a popup saying other packages have to be removed as well. write them down. then apply the changes. when that's done, search for the packages that you wrote down and reinstall them. apply, and when that's done, reboot
[03:03] <mechtech> Apocapus: don't disable the drives, just disable the bios option for booting to usb drive, and remove any media that might be in those drives
[03:04] <WolfBlood> Seven: I am really, really new. What is synaptic?
[03:04] <Apocapus> OH Ok....
[03:04] <WolfBlood> Seven: Scratch that, I found it
[03:04] <donavan_> apocapus I have usb card readers on mine and every version I have installed worked fine ... just make sure you dont have any media in it
[03:04] <Apocapus> I don't even know how to put media into them
[03:04] <Seven_Six_Two> WolfBlood, make sure that you are removing the pulse audio stuff, because there may be other, non-audio related pkgs with pulse in the name. I don't know
[03:05] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: I've read man adduser. Unfortunately, I don't think I have enough experience to make sense of how to put this together. What I want to do is create a user whose priveleges would be the equivalent of what is called I think a Desktop User in the "users and groups" GUI. But I want that user's home dir to be the preexisting one in /home. What command would you use for that?
[03:05] <evon>  I had installed mint to an external drive. i screwed up the grub settings so now I want to install the bootloader on the external drive so that it will boot mint
[03:05] <inline> net
[03:05] <donavan_> apocapus ... you put media in my putting a SD or CF ( or whatever) into the slot (physically)... nothing special here
[03:06] <Apocapus> Yeah...but their not in at the moment.....
[03:06] <Apocapus> I don't have flash cards or shock cards....inserted
[03:06] <Apocapus> so how can their be media
[03:07] <unitypunk_> can i do \\dydns\share
[03:07] <WolfBlood> Seven: No other packages were removed.
[03:07] <unitypunk_> or must it be ip?
[03:07] <evon>  I had installed mint to an external drive. i screwed up the grub settings so now I want to install the bootloader on the external drive so that it will boot mint
[03:07] <arleslie> Apocapus, just insert a media disk into the slot and it should work
[03:07] <Apocapus> But I don't have media disks
[03:07] <donavan_> apocapus... media is any storage you put data on ... if you dont have a card in then there is no media to read ...what exactly are you trying to accomplish
[03:07] <Apocapus> I want to install ubuntu
[03:08] <unitypunk_> Do it.
[03:08] <Apocapus> But I keep getting logical blocks
[03:08] <MadCowBoy> Apocapus: do you have a 1GB usb stick?
[03:08] <Apocapus> Yeah I do
[03:08] <mechtech> he is getting block errors when trying to install ubuntu...poor guy...this all started hours ago for him and he's sort of spinning his wheels
[03:09] <MadCowBoy> google unetbootin Linux and you'll get an installer for your usb stick Apocapus
[03:10] <eukzeta> hello
[03:10] <Apocapus> Do I need the whole Flash stick all 1 gigs?
[03:10] <donavan_> apocapus ... check you private message
[03:10] <mechtech> GUYS  Apocapus wants to install Ubuntu onto his hard drive, but keeps getting logical block errors
[03:10] <arleslie> mechtech, donavan_ is taking care of it.
[03:10] <meanburrito920_> Nautilus is giving me an error message saying "could not display network:///"
[03:11] <MadCowBoy> ah sorry bud.
[03:11] <meanburrito920_> whenever I try and go to the network tab
[03:11] <Pici> !enter
[03:11] <mechtech> I told him to write them down, then paste them into pastebin so we could read them, that was like 5 hours ago
[03:11] <mechtech> arleslie: ok...sorry
[03:11] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11,   sudo adduser --home /home/username --shell /bin/bash
[03:11] <Apocapus> All I remember is Error On Disk Write...Logical Block error...and then it gives you a number
[03:11] <nellmathew> hey guys, i used acronis a while back with my windows ntfs partitions, i have a few hard drives backed up and saved as TIB files, is there a way i can browse or mount this archive in ubuntu? (without a virtual machine w/ windows & acronis?)
[03:12] <Apocapus> and it keeps going like that......
[03:12] <MadCowBoy> I am trying to get flash 10 installed in Firefox, I tried everything I oculd find, but I must be missing something,  Trust me, I know my way around, but I've been at this off and on for two days, has anyone else had flash10 just not take?
[03:12] <arleslie> Apocapus, did you format the partition before installing?
[03:12] <meanburrito920_> Pici: yeah, i know. one line for the question. the next line was just clarification :)
[03:12] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, oops, put the new username at the end of that
[03:12] <arleslie> MadCowBoy, did you try downloading from adobe?
[03:12] <Pici> meanburrito920_: Wasn't for you actually, just an FYI for everyone.
[03:12] <phishie> a freind asked me about chinese input for ubuntu, i have no idea where to start, anyone could help with this?
[03:12] <meanburrito920_> Pici: ah.
[03:12] <Seven_Six_Two> and make sure it matches the name of the existing home
[03:13] <oOarthurOo> Hi... I just watched this really cool video of an aquarium here: http://pastebin.com/m816148e   and I'm curious, is there a screensaver or something like this for Ubuntu?
[03:13] <Pici> phishie: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM would be the best place to start.
[03:13] <MadCowBoy> arleslie: ya bud,
[03:13] <Andorin> I've had a problem for a while with my keyboard shortcuts. I ask for anyone who knows about them to look at this thread- and please actually read the OP. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214508
[03:13] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: sudo adduser --home /home/username --shell /bin/bash username?
[03:13] <arleslie> MadCowBoy, then tghats strange
[03:13] <phishie> Pici: thanks =)
[03:13] <MadCowBoy> the .deb installs no prob, but firefox jsut isnt seeing it for some reason, I tried the one in synaptic
[03:13] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, that should do it
[03:13] <Apocapus> Format what partition....whats a partition?
[03:14] <arleslie> MadCowBoy, try reinstalling firefox
[03:14] <ricardo_> hola
[03:14] <MadCowBoy> arleslie, will  do,
[03:14] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, you can probably drop the --shell and bash. they should be the default anyhow.
[03:14] <arleslie> !partition | Apocapus
[03:14] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: I guess they don't hurt anything there.
[03:14] <phishie> exit
[03:14] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, I also recommend backing up the home dir first. hahah
[03:15] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: Is it risky?
[03:15] <ricardo_> hooooooooola
[03:15] <ricardo_> hay alguien
[03:15] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, I don't think so, but bad things happen when you assume everything will be ok
[03:15] <Pici> !es | ricardo_
[03:15] <ricardo_> que habla espnol
[03:16] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, the thing about paranoia is that it works
[03:16] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two:  I know. But I've got a not-too-ancient backup so I think I'm going to let my paranoia go for this once.
[03:17] <oOarthurOo> Anyone know of a good aquarium screensaver for Ubuntu? Lifelike fish etc?
[03:17] <dahlia> is there a 32 bit ubuntu desktop distribution that includes a PAE kernel?
[03:17] <starcraftman> Anyone here got a moment and easytag installed? I'm getting an odd error from the CDDB lookup function. It says connection refused, but i"m online and I'm pretty positive server is up.
[03:17] <Seven_Six_Two> starcraftman, are there any other cddb servers to choose?
[03:18] <Ghoti__> starcraftman: have you tried FreeDB rather than CDDB?
[03:18] <DVA5912> Is it possible to maby run a small windows print server in ubuntu? this vista home primum is the worst software ever! xp doesnt lag this much, windows seven doesnt nothing else is this bad. Im sorry i went back to it. but the only way i can get to ubuntu is by a windows server of some type. the printer is not at all supported in linux. its considered a paperweight
[03:19] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: Yes, you can share a printer with either cups or samba
[03:19] <DVA5912> no
[03:19] <Kalmi> dahlia, just install the server kernel
[03:19] <jwalsh> could anyone help me? i cannot, for the life of me, get ubuntu to connect to my wireless network
[03:19] <DVA5912> not sharing. this is the only desktop pc
[03:19] <arleslie> !ask jwalsh
[03:19] <koro> jwalsh: can you see your wireless network?
[03:19] <DVA5912> the only other pc is a notebook. and its not going to stay connected. Ghoti__
[03:20] <koro> jwalsh: is your wireless card actually configured?
[03:20] <jwalsh> koro: i think so
[03:20] <koro> if you go to networkmanager you see the name of your network listed?
[03:20] <mechtech> arleslie: I think you forgot your pipe
[03:20] <arleslie> mechtech, yea, its always that one command I forget the pipe
[03:20] <jwalsh> koro: i'm not seeing network manager
[03:20] <opengyan> hey ! 9.04 on hp laptop
[03:21] <DVA5912> is there no hope for this printer? Do i actuly have to vm a full windows just for my printer?
[03:21] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: that like totally worked. Thanks. Now I should run chown -R user:user /home/user/ ?
[03:21] <opengyan> i done ppoeconf for home wireless....working
[03:21] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: what printer is it?
[03:21] <arleslie> !details| opengyan
[03:21] <DVA5912> Canon Pixma MP480
[03:21] <mechtech> dva5912: tried a post script driver yet?
[03:21] <koro> jwalsh: on the top right of your screen, a little icon
[03:21] <opengyan> but when in office ....it is not detetcing wireless
[03:21] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, was the old username the same as the new one (and the dir?)
[03:21] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: yep
[03:21] <DVA5912> mechtech: ive been all through the printer setup thing if thats what you mean
[03:22] <jwalsh> koro: hm. that one actually didn't show up when i rebooted. lemme see if i can get it back
[03:22] <DVA5912> and ive chosen close models but non of them work mechtech
[03:22] <opengyan> so i have this problem of not getting wifi in office
[03:22] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, then you don't have to do that
[03:22] <opengyan> yesterday i configured it for pppoeconf at home wireless
[03:22] <arleslie> opengyan, Is there alot of electrical applicanes, between your router and your office?
[03:23] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: except I haven't done that since earlier, when I imported that directory from a FAT drive. That means my permissions are all messed up and I should run chown right?
[03:23] <opengyan> it is just adjacent
[03:23] <Seven_Six_Two> you would only do that if you needed to change the owner of the files. old user bob will still own the home dir after it's created again.
[03:23] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: have you checked this page?  http://mp610.blogspot.com/2008/04/give-your-scanner-new-freshly-sane.html
[03:23] <mechtech> dva5912:  when you choose the driver, try post script driver...a generic driver that WILL work for most printers...may not have all the functionality or font support you're used to, but you will print
[03:23] <opengyan> i want to try undoing ppoeconf
[03:23] <craigbass1976> what's the best way to play streaming mp3?  Looking to do what I used to with xmms
[03:23] <arleslie> opengyan, is the wireless connected while outside the office?
[03:23] <DVA5912> mechtech: false. ive tryed those (the generic ones) they dont work what so ever
[03:23] <Ghoti__> craigbass1976: Rhythmboxdoes streaming audio well
[03:23] <DVA5912> Ghoti__: that worked only for the scanner. ive done that
[03:23] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, oh they were fat? you might want to then. and you might have to set the permissions again
[03:24] <opengyan> yea it connnect me to home network..
[03:24] <opengyan> it use to connect me to office as well ..prior to pppoeconf
[03:24] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: I hate the thought of doing that on every directory in the heirarchy.
[03:24] <mechtech> dva5912: they're not universal, but it has been my experience that 95% of the time, they work
[03:24] <DVA5912> mechtech: unfortunently not in this case :(
[03:24] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, for the most part they should be 644 (-rw-r--r--)
[03:24] <mechtech> dva5912: sorry i couldn't be of more help
[03:25] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: there's a program here that claims to support your printer; 30 day trial:  http://www.turboprint.info/  However, they want €29.95 for uit
[03:25] <mechtech> dva5912: what make/model printer?
[03:25] <arleslie> opengyan, then its not a ubuntu problem or a hardware issue, thats interfarance, there's something blocking your wifi signal to your office.
[03:25] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: you've been a help. Thanks.
[03:25] <DVA5912> mechtech: Canon Pixma MP480
[03:25] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, np
[03:25] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: seen on a forum:  I was able to get a Canon PIXMA MX860 All-in-One to print by setting it up as a PIXMA iP4600. To get it to work on the network, I built and installed cups-bjnp. Using the printer as an iP4600 shared via SMB from a Windows machine also worked.
[03:25] <opengyan> arleslie: oh ok....
[03:25] <Ghoti__> you could try a similar tactic
[03:25] <mechtech> dva5912: tried the Mac OS X drivers?
[03:26] <DVA5912> mechtech: you can use those?!
[03:26] <DVA5912> Ghoti__: ok when i get back into the live cd il try that
[03:26] <DVA5912> I didnt know you could use mac drivers in linux
[03:27] <paultanoz> i have a question, i try to play mms support tv on Totem, can someone tell me how it should work?
[03:27] <mechtech> dva5912: it's posible...back in 56k dial-up days...if I had a nic or modem that wouldn't work, I would use the US Robotics drivers for it...often worked...MAC OS X is free bsd kernel though, but still worth a try
[03:27] <DVA5912> its a bsd kernel
[03:27] <DVA5912> i didnt know that
[03:28] <eaglestar> alright i cannot see flash videos and could see them 2 days ago can someone help me to fix it?
[03:28] <mechtech> dva5912:  yeah...2002 they introduced OS X based on the free bsd kernel with a glitsy GUI named Darwin
[03:28] <paultanoz> i have a question, i try to play mms support tv on Totem, can someone tell me how it should work?
[03:28] <DVA5912> i dont know how much more of this vista i can take. it took two minutes to load up ie
[03:29] <^Sarah> DVA5912: I saw vista for the first time this week, my mom's new laptop has it... she's so mad at it. ;-)
[03:29] <DVA5912> mechtech: ok well im going to get into the live cd and see what i can do. thanks. Thanks Ghoti__!
[03:29] <DVA5912> ^Sarah: give her ubuntu?
[03:29] <DVA5912> :)
[03:30] <^Sarah> DVA5912: lol she didn't take to kindly to my mac, I think I will have a heck of a time convincing her of ubuntu
[03:30] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: good luck!
[03:30] <DVA5912> thanks
[03:30] <mechtech> ^sarah:  just boot her up to a live cd and let her use it...then we'll see
[03:30] <DVA5912> oooh. Good luck with that ^Sarah. try this though. Take her laptop and your ubuntu (if you have that) and run them side by side and show here
[03:31] <DVA5912> thats what i did with my mom
[03:31] <DVA5912> she loves ubuntu
[03:31] <arleslie> ^Sarah: you can downgrade to xp...
[03:31] <Seven_Six_Two> ^Sarah, I told my mom that I would fix her comp one more time (few years ago) and if she doesn't take linux, it would be the last time, She's called for help a few times, but didn't complain much.
[03:31] <Mannequin> hi. does anyone ever had a touchpad issue that has to be fixed adding "i8042.nomux" to the kernel line on grub?
[03:31] <mechtech> arleslie:  wouldn't really call that a downgrade...LOL
[03:31] <duckwars> is ssl, the only way to setup a password for an apache server?
[03:31] <^Sarah> Seven_Six_Two: LOL that's awesome
[03:31] <arleslie> mechtech, thats true
[03:32] <DVA5912> ok. well im outa here. going to reinstall ubuntu and give this vista to the dogs..
[03:32] <DVA5912> /me takes out the vista disk and calls over roudy to eat it
[03:32] <^Sarah> mechtech:  she saw ubuntu when my ibook died last week and I turned her old dell into this ubuntu computer :)
[03:32] <Seven_Six_Two> ^Sarah, I think you have to take in to account the user's skill level. She didn't really know how to use windows either (which is why she kept breaking it!) so it was an easy transition for her.
[03:32] <brummbaer> anybody know how to assign functions to media-buttons on a keyboard?
[03:33] <brummbaer> ^ubuntu 9
[03:33] <mechtech> ^sarah:  and she still prefers windows?
[03:33] <[R]> brummbaer: the keyboard shortcuts dialog in gnome lets you do that
[03:33] <^Sarah> mechtech: yeah, she's got a lot of windows dependent programs
[03:33] <Ghoti__> brummbaer: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[03:33] <brummbaer> oh spiff ty guys!
[03:33] <^Sarah> Seven_Six_Two: my mom is practically a hacker she's awesome
[03:33] <PROject-Emerald> What are the benefits of updating the Ubuntu kernel?
[03:34] <mechtech> ^sarah:  that's how they get you...hook you on the software
[03:34] <streblo> how do i downgrade python to version 2.5.1?
[03:34] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: fix exploits, fix bugs, new features
[03:34] <Seven_Six_Two> ^Sarah, well it might be frustrating for her at first then...knowing that you don't know is a rough place to be
[03:34] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: the same for updating anything
[03:34] <mechtech> ^sarah:  I'm still hooked on the games...so are my daughters
[03:34] <PROject-Emerald> Is it difficult? I made a 9.04 live disk when it first came out, do you think there's a new kernel out?
[03:34] <Paavi2_0> !offtopic
[03:34] <^Sarah> mechtech: lol yeah, not me though - I am only hooked on xbox and DS
[03:35] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: the update manager updates the kernel just like it updates antyhhing else
[03:35] <Seven_Six_Two> oops. np Paavi2_0
[03:35] <^Sarah> np! sorry
[03:36] <streblo> can i downgrade python with apt?
[03:36] <mechtech> me too *blush*
[03:37] <PROject-Emerald> [R]: Well, I have 2 frequently occurring problems and I figured maybe a kernel update would've fixed it
[03:37] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: you figured?
[03:37] <caffemisto> in completely removing proftpd from my server, i might've accidentally removed the proftpd command from /etc/init.d
[03:37] <PROject-Emerald> Yeah, because 9.10alpha fixed those problems I had
[03:37] <caffemisto> reinstalling proftpd did not bring it back LOL
[03:38] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: well w/o knowing what the "problems" are... saying 9.10 fixed it means nothing
[03:38] <PROject-Emerald> One is that the monitor will completely shut off / hibernate, killing everything I was doing forcing a hard restart to bring it back
[03:38] <caffemisto> so, how do i get proftpd command back into /etc/init.d?
[03:38] <PROject-Emerald> and the other one is the OS will crash and nothing will work / clickable, and the mouse is all jumpy also forcing a hard restart.
[03:39] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: your monitor shutting off isnt' going to kill anything
[03:39] <masterkoppa> PROject-Emerald: 9.10 has alot of changes, specifically with power management and a new kernel series 2.6.30
[03:39] <[R]> neither of those sound too kernely
[03:39] <brummbaer> [R]: what if one of the media buttons doesn't seem to be getting picked up?
[03:40] <vancomycin> can someone direct me to the safest drivers or workaround for jaunty and old intel graphics drivers? i just updated and i can barely see anything on my screen. all the fonts /colors everything is out of control
[03:40] <PROject-Emerald> When I'm in the middle of some huge paper I have to finish, a hard restart really isn't too good.
[03:40] <[R]> brummbaer: then you'll have to map it... there are some docs on the ubuntu wiki about it
[03:40] <vancomycin> i'm not looking for editing scripts or anything. just anything official
[03:40] <PROject-Emerald> It doesn't come back on unless i either hold the power button down or unplug it.
[03:40] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: well if 9.10 works...
[03:40] <meanburrito920_> I'm having issues with firefox being recognized as my default browser. for example, when I select the "open link in browser" option for opening a link from Xchat, nothing happens. I get the same result with automated bug reports; they never open the browser like they should
[03:41] <PROject-Emerald> -_- someone told me not to update, that it's extremely buggy and will almost always crash
[03:41] <brummbaer> [R]: cool, thx. wasn't sure of the terminology to search for.
[03:41] <masterkoppa> PROject-Emerald: This sounds to me like a power management proble, prob from hal since it was eliminated in 9.10
[03:41] <PROject-Emerald> Any way to fix it without updating?
[03:41] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: i use it off and on... i dindt notice it crashing horribly
[03:41] <administrator__> when connected to wifi, the notification area displays signal strength as 0, even though im connected and browsing web fine
[03:42] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: well if all your packaqges are updated... and you can't find anyone else with a similar problem and a solution... generally not
[03:42] <masterkoppa> PROject-Emerald: I've used alphas on production machines and their of really good quality
[03:42] <[R]> administrator__: sounds like a crappy driver
[03:42] <masterkoppa> PROject-Emerald: Either way Good Luck with this issue
[03:42] <PROject-Emerald> Thanks -_-
[03:43] <administrator__> [R]: it worked fine yesterday
[03:43] <jwalsh> koro: allright, i'm back
[03:43] <jwalsh> koro: i can see the network in network manager
[03:43] <Cryptorchild> I have a problem with battery state, it could not read even it's plugged into AC power or running in battery mode, help??
[03:43] <jwalsh> koro: it shows a signal strength
[03:43] <[R]> administrator__: weird
[03:43] <jwalsh> koro: but if i try to connect, it keeps asking me for auth and never actually connects
[03:44] <jwalsh> mmm. anyone wanna help me debug my network connection?
[03:44] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: can you confirm that the a/c was connected via an led licht in the laptop
[03:44] <jwalsh> as much as i hate myself for saying this, windows me was working better
[03:44] <administrator__> [R]: thanks anyways,
[03:44] <jwalsh> >.>
[03:45] <Cryptorchild> it did
[03:45] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: this happened to me once but it was a problem with the charger
[03:45] <Cryptorchild> I'm using 8.10 before and all running fine
[03:45] <Cryptorchild> so I think it's not the charger
[03:45] <Andorin> I've had a problem for a while with my keyboard shortcuts. I ask for anyone who knows about them to look at this thread- and please actually read the OP. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214508
[03:46] <administrator__> anyone else got an idea?
[03:46] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: Try doing a restart and retesting this to see if it happens
[03:46] <Cryptorchild> masterkoppa: I've try to run knoppix live-cd and voila the battery state could be read fine
[03:47] <Cryptorchild> masterkoppa: i've restart and shutdown dozens time
[03:47] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: this has to be a hal issue then
[03:47] <Cryptorchild> I'm using this 9.04 for almost a month
[03:47] <Cryptorchild> prolly
[03:47] <Cryptorchild> My lap: MSI Megabook S271
[03:48] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: Did this happen when you upgraded to 9.04 or just a few days ago?
[03:48] <Cryptorchild> some posts said by update the acpi package would resolve, but nothing happened here
[03:49] <administrator__> when connected to wifi, the notification area displays signal strength as 0, even though im connected and browsing web fine
[03:49] <Cryptorchild> I"m not upgrade, clean install and yes it wont work from beginning
[03:49] <[R]> administrator__: i already told you... crappy driver
[03:50] <konam> administrator__ i've seen that with some wifi networks nearby but not my own
[03:50] <administrator__> how do i reinstall the driver?
[03:51] <type_t> what driver
[03:51] <[R]> administrator__: this isnt' windows... reinstalling doesnt change anything
[03:51] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: I'm really out of ideas right now try searching the internet, not just the forums, for issues like this for your specific laptop model and see what comes up
[03:51] <administrator__> [R]: im sorry. im fairly new to linux
[03:52] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: I;ve personally installed Ubuntu in over 40 diferent laptops and I haven't seen this issue
[03:52] <type_t> do you know lsmod from your command line?
[03:52] <Cryptorchild> k, now it's frighten me
[03:52] <administrator__> type_t: no