[00:00] <Bisono> daftykins, I got it thanks... I knew I was on the right track.
[00:02] <Etale> daftykins, I'm in windows now. How do I check the wired LAN adapter?
[00:03] <jeffreylevesque> When I install ubuntu server, and it asks to install grub on the master partition is that ok?  My master partition is windows 7
[00:03] <usr13> Ethix: Check it for ___________?
[00:03] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: Yes
[00:03] <liquidFury> jeffreylevesque: it's ok!
[00:03] <jeffreylevesque> I just installed ubuntu server 14 but i elected not to install grub
[00:03] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: It's "master boot record"
[00:03] <jeffreylevesque> should i reinstall?
[00:03] <jeffreylevesque> or is it hard to install just grub?
[00:04] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, what is the master partition? the exact sdX
[00:04] <liquidFury> jeffreylevesque: probably it wont boot , install grub
[00:04] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[00:04] <jeffreylevesque> do i boot up into the USB installation image?
[00:04] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: yes
[00:04] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: See above link
[00:07] <Etale> daftykins, okay, I think I have it.... Manufacturer: Intel. Description: Intel(R) Ethernet Connection I217-LM. Driver version: <IP_ADDRESS> . Is that the information you wanted?
[00:07] <jeffreylevesque> usr13: i inserted my usb.  It has the following options: Default, help, install, command-line install, expert install, command-line expert install, rescue mode, install ubuntu server, multiple server install with maas, check disc for defects, test memory, boot from first hard disk
[00:09] <daftykins> Etale: yeah, that's a recognisable device. how are you progressing on the 12.04 install idea? will you go ahead with that?
[00:10] <Etale> I uninstalled the previous Ubuntu, and I just now finished burning the iso, daftykins.
[00:10] <Etale> So I'll restart now and do it.
[00:10] <daftykins> Etale: ok sounds good.
[00:11] <daftykins> Beldar: it probably would be good, but i have no ideas on what to do with 14.04 not UEFI booting
[00:11] <Beldar> daftykins, Heh not many if us do, I just wonder if the disk was good or just a nomodeset needed.
[00:13] <daftykins> Beldar: mmm, could be!
[00:13] <daftykins> eeee + Beldar - i've heard of issues i think in both 12.04 and 14.04 with these 7xxx series intel wifi adapters, either of you had any experience? constant connection dropping i think is the symptom
[00:13] <Etale> Okay, looks like it's loading, unlike the 14.04. So probably I'll be able to install it.
[00:14] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: command-line
[00:14] <daftykins> Etale: do you still have the 14.04 DVD to hand?
[00:14] <Etale> Not at the moment, but I have the iso for it.
[00:14] <Beldar> daftykins, Not sure there, this computer does have a bug reported on 14.04 boots the user showed, bummer that such a nice computer with gobs of ram does not just work.
[00:14] <jeffreylevesque> usr13, how do i find out the master boot to install grub to?
[00:14] <Etale> Beldar, right!
[00:14] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: See section "The terminal way" in the above link.
[00:15] <jeffreylevesque> usr13, sounds good
[00:15] <jeffreylevesque> usr13, whats the 'XXX' for master boot?
[00:15] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Do you have more than One HD?
[00:15] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: I think you have to chroot to the filesystem first
[00:15] <jeffreylevesque> just one
[00:15] <jeffreylevesque> one disk
[00:15] <jeffreylevesque> 3 partitions i think
[00:15] <Etale> Oh, hey, looks like the 12.04 install can see wifi, unlike the 13.04 install!
[00:16] <daftykins> Etale: ok, if you booted to the 'try' mode it might be useful to see the network adapters working fir.... first :)
[00:16] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, THan it would be sda most likely, you could boot it with supergrub and install to the mbr easier.
[00:16] <daftykins> Etale: do you also get an eth0 if you open a terminal and run "ifconfig -a" ?
[00:16] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: Actually, you need rescue mode
[00:16] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[00:17] <Etale> daftykins, I'll install first, and then play around with the internet..
[00:17] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: Skip to the bottom on that link, "Using the Ubuntu Alternate CD"
[00:17] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: And then back up to "The terminal way"
[00:17] <daftykins> Etale: okie-dokie
[00:18] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: replace xxx with your actual HD designation
[00:18] <jeffreylevesque> usr13, is that equivealent with me just saying yes to installing grub to master boot?
[00:18] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: sda *(Right)*?
[00:18] <usr13> Yes
[00:19] <eeee> daftykins: my connection was dropping a lot, i added "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1" to /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf  , it supposedly uses another protocol which renders the connection more stable and less prone to reconnections but somewhat slower. It's hard to tell it worked for me, but i've had it off for a while without any disconnections, it's pretty intermittent and i dont know if it really helps or not.
[00:19] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: sudo fdisk -l  #Will show you a list of your HDs and Partitions.
[00:19] <jeffreylevesque> for now, I will use superdisk
[00:20] <daftykins> eeee: hmm, forcing to 802.11g only?
[00:20] <Etale> I'm in the partitioning bit now. Can you remind me? Should I make the "device for boot loader installation" the partition mounted on "/" or on "/boot"?
[00:20] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: "superdisk" ?  What is that?
[00:20] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, If you get the boot to ubuntu with supergrub just run sudo grub-install /dev/sda than sudo update-grub  all this isn the terminal
[00:20] <jeffreylevesque> supergrub rather
[00:21] <Bisono> Hey guys, can someone recommend a good IDE for Ubuntu, GNOME, I'm doing some dev work and I need something clean. Thanks.
[00:21] <eeee> yeah, it seemed to fix the problem, then it reappeared after a while, i can't really say anything about it, i have it off now and everything is ok
[00:21] <Beldar> Bisono, IDE?
[00:21] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: As Beldar suggests, you just have to commands to execute.
[00:22] <usr13> *two* not to
[00:22] <daftykins> integrated development environment
[00:22] <Bisono> yeah....
[00:22] <Bisono> I tried eclipse but I'm not feeling it.
[00:22] <daftykins> i'm no dev, but i assume that decision is about what you want to develop in
[00:22] <Bisono> php, html, css, etc...
[00:22] <daftykins> Bisono: you'd be better off finding a channel for the given language you want to dev
[00:23] <daftykins> oh web stuff. yeah, no ideas
[00:23] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: (I'm just giving you fish hooks, Beldar gave you the fish.)  ;)
[00:23] <Beldar> supergrub rules lol
[00:24] <Bisono> thanks ...
[00:25] <obelix_> beldar sucks
[00:26] <daftykins> i too like lollipops
[00:26] <daftykins> Etale: you don't really need a separate /boot, you can get away with just / and swap - you'd only need swap if you wanted to hibernate that system, too.
[00:27] <daftykins> so you may be able to install with just everything as /
[00:29] <Etale> daftykins, okay. It's a small partition anyway... And I should make my / the "device for boot loader installation"?
[00:29] <eeee> Etale: isn't there supposed to be an EFI partition for win8 already there?
[00:30] <daftykins> eeee: i was getting confused at being asked that too :S
[00:31] <Etale> eeee, maybe? I don't know how to recognize it. There are some partitions there that are Windows' so I just don't touch them. For example, a recovery partition...
[00:31] <Etale> You mean the one that is type "biosgrub"?
[00:31] <Etale> Size 1MB?
[00:32] <eeee> huh
[00:32] <eeee> stranger by the minute..
[00:32] <saiarcot895> Quite small for a EFI partition
[00:32] <Etale> Screw it, I'll just make it the "/" partition.
[00:32] <eeee> i'm guessing win8 is installed in legacy mode?
[00:32] <Etale> eeee, I don't think so. If I take the option of "legacy only" in the setup, nothing runs.
[00:32] <eeee> maybe that's why it says legacy mode first in the bios?
[00:33] <saiarcot895> Etale: Did WIndows 8 come preinstalled?
[00:33] <Etale> saiarcot895, yes.
[00:33] <ryan_46> Etale: Where did you put the boot device when you installed 13.04
[00:33] <saiarcot895> Etale: Then I would think that it's EFI, with Microsoft's requirements and all that
[00:33] <yabbou> is there no unrar-nonfree anymore ? i cant unrar x my rar file :(
[00:34] <daftykins> Etale: i have a feeling the DVD booted on the wrong mode, one moment...
[00:34] <Etale> ryan_46, I don't remember. Anyways, I'm starting installation. Let's see if it works.
[00:34] <daftykins> !uefi | Etale
[00:34] <saiarcot895> yabbou: Did you just try unrar?
[00:34] <yabbou> yep, saiarcot895 and 7zr
[00:34] <daftykins> Etale: if you follow the above link, do you see the difference between the black and white menu EFI boot and the purple screen with the little man logo at the bottom?
[00:34] <yabbou> "extracting failed"
[00:35] <OerHeks> rar is in multiverse, see if you enabled multiverse repo in your sources.
[00:35] <saiarcot895> yabbou: unrar-nonfree is in the unrar package, so you should have it installed
[00:35] <daftykins> Etale: it's just after "Identifying if the computer boots the Ubuntu DVD in EFI mode"
[00:35] <OerHeks> !info rar
[00:35] <Etale> I got the second, daftykins . Purple.
[00:35] <saiarcot895> !info unrar | yabbou
[00:35] <yabbou> so its in the unrar package these days
[00:35] <OerHeks> unrar too
[00:35] <daftykins> Etale: then it definitely booted in the wrong mode
[00:35] <yabbou> ah, well then i have it.. i have unrar
[00:36] <Etale> daftykins, but this is what happened last time, and that worked fine...
[00:36] <yabbou> thanks saiarcot895
[00:36] <yabbou> any ideas what to do when you cant extract a .rar file =
[00:36] <eeee> Etale: i thought you didn't get a tiny man when you booted last time with ubuntu 14.04?
[00:36] <daftykins> Etale: ok if you could run a couple of things to check some things first then, a little more time now will help prevent issues further along the line.
[00:36] <def_anoch> Hey folks, was wondering if anyone would be willing to assist with an odd issue: I'm attempting to upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04 and it's not allowing me to either via software updater or terminal.  It's telling me that everything is up to date on the system, which clearly it is not.
[00:37] <Etale> With 14.04 I didn't. With 13.04 I did.
[00:37] <daftykins> Etale: if you run a terminal with ctrl+alt+T, then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[00:37] <nith1210> def_anoch: what commands are you using to try to upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04?
[00:37] <saiarcot895> def_anoch: You need to switch the sources.list URLs to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[00:37] <Etale> daftykins, I'll do that once that's available.
[00:37] <saiarcot895> yabbou: Download the file again?
[00:37] <yabbou> its not corrupted -,-
[00:37] <daftykins> Etale: it'd be best if you did this before attempting to install
[00:38] <def_anoch> nith1210: How would I go about doing that?
[00:38] <daftykins> Etale: you'll need to be connected to the internet for the above
[00:38] <def_anoch> saiarcot895: I'm using 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' from terminal.
[00:39] <def_anoch> saiarcot895: and the stand gui software update manager when, for the first time, that didn't work for me.
[00:39] <saiarcot895> def_anoch: 13.04 is a year old, and if you did 'sudo apt-get update', you should be getting 404 errors.
[00:39] <def_anoch> standard*
[00:39] <def_anoch> saiarcot895: Yup, sounds about right.
[00:39] <daftykins> dist-upgrade does not upgrade distribution version
[00:39] <Etale> Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda9' failed. This is a fatal error. I guess my guess was wrong.
[00:40] <saiarcot895> def_anoch: See http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release
[00:40] <Etale> I'll try the '/boot' partition instead.
[00:40] <def_anoch> saiarcot895: Thanks much, checking that out now.
[00:40] <daftykins> Etale: no, guessing is just going to make things worse
[00:40] <daftykins> Etale: if you can boot the DVD in 'Try Ubuntu' mode, we can check things with some commands first.
[00:40] <saiarcot895> def_anoch: Note that you'll have to go through 13.10, since a direct upgrade to 14.04 is not supported.
[00:41] <def_anoch> saiarcot895: That's what I assumed, but it wouldn't even let me upgrade to that.  Much appreciated.
[00:41] <eeee> Etale: i think daftykins suggestion is sound, if it's booting into legacy why don't you disable legacy in the bios and let ubuntu install in uefi mode, using the efi partition of win8?
[00:44] <hmmwhatsthisdo|U> I'm trying to mount a fakeRAID partition before I dump it off onto a new drive.
[00:44] <eeee> Etale: never mind, i forgot you already have 13.04 installed.
[00:44] <Etale> eeee, I removed it.
[00:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo|U> dmraid -ay says everything has been activated, fdisk -l shows the two partitions on the disk, but the corresponding /dev/mapper location it points to doesn't exist.
[00:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo|U> Any ideas?
[00:45] <Etale> Okay, I canceled the installation. daftykins , I'll open ubuntu via try now.
[00:46] <ZZRMike> Anyone in here have experience with intels 7260 wireless nic?
[00:47] <svetlana> ZZRMike, ask the real question please
[00:50] <Image> evening
[00:50] <Image> is it me or is browsing a windows network a PITA on 14.04?
[00:51] <svetlana> not for me anyway
[00:51] <Beldar> Image, This is support do you have a question related to that?
[00:51] <Image> I can connect to all shared drives by using the "connect to a server" feature but not by clicking the "browse network" option
[00:51] <Image> Beldar is that not a support question?
[00:51] <svetlana> nautilus shows a 'browse network' option where you can browse to workgroup and see computers
[00:51] <Beldar> that helps thanx image
[00:52] <Etale> daftykins, okay I'm in the try ubuntu thing. For some reason I can't apt-get install pastebinit. But I did "sudo parted -l" and I can answer questions about it.
[00:52] <Image> sorry if it is not
[00:52] <def_anoch> saiarcot895: Since you helped me so soundly with that last one, I was wondering if you may know why the 13.04 distro all of the sudden won't allow me to connect to a wpa2 encrypted wireless network? The results google showed didn't give me anything that worked. I had to set up a guest access account on the network just to get on
[00:52] <Etale> Actually, I have an internet connection. I'll just put it on pastebin via firefox...
[00:52] <Beldar> Image, The complaint does not, but the description is. ;)
[00:53] <Image> svetlana i tried that but it only shows my printer and my local ubuntu machine using samba
[00:53] <Image> Beldar, agreed
[00:53] <Etale> daftykins, pastebin.com/LdFDC4Nm
[00:53] <svetlana> Image, do you have winbindd installed?
[00:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> any programmers here? Where do most of you keep your programming files. I usually make a folder called "Programming" in home, and go from there.
[00:54] <svetlana> Akiva-Thinkpad, yes. I call it 'dev'.
[00:54] <usr13> def_anoch: NOt sure why you would no longer connect to an encrypted Wireless AP but just FYI: EOL for 13.04 was January 27, 2014
[00:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> svetlana, interesting
[00:54] <Image> hmmm
[00:54] <Image> svetlana, ill check
[00:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> svetlana, dev looks out of place though in the home folder.
[00:55] <svetlana> "out of place through"?
[00:55] <daftykins> Etale: looking now
[00:55] <Akiva-Thinkpad> svetlana, and in unix, dev afaik refers to device
[00:55] <def_anoch> usr13: Yah, I know it was a while back.  I was just hoping someone might have a quick fix so I can shut down the guest connection setup :)  I'm currently updating the distro to 13.10 and then on to 14.04
[00:55] <jeffreylevesque> if i install ubuntu server 14 as a dual boot.  AFter I select 'yes' to install GRUB to the master boot record, will i be prompted following, where to install GRUB.  If so, where should i specify
[00:55] <svetlana> devel then, maybe
[00:55] <usr13> def_anoch: If you are going to use Ubuntu, you need to stay on a supported version.
[00:55] <svetlana> not like devices live in /home/user/ though :s
[00:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> :p
[00:56] <Etale> daftykins, the idea is that one of the partitions will be a shared ntfs partition between linux and windows.
[00:56] <usr13> def_anoch: It would be very hard for us to troubleshoot your LAN setup.
[00:56] <Etale> sda10...
[00:56] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, THe mbr if you are running a msdos or legacy boot in gpt.
[00:56] <Image> svetlana, i didnt
[00:56] <Etale> sda7 is meant to be /boot, and sda9 is meant to be ubuntu.
[00:56] <Image> installing now
[00:56] <usr13> def_anoch: The easiest thing to do is to eliminate the encryption, (as you've done).
[00:56] <def_anoch> usr13: Plan on it. I was updating it from an older laptop that I hadn't used in a while so I was still running the 13.04.  I couldn't update because none of the network connections worked anymore for some reason, neither wired or wifi.  So I'm using the guest setup now to update :)
[00:56] <daftykins> Etale: ok there is no need for a /boot partition, so i would delete all the custom created ones and then work on getting that DVD booting in UEFI mode instead of legacy (so you see the black and white menu instead)
[00:56] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: I'm running windows 7 on the primary partition
[00:57] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, This msdos?
[00:57] <jeffreylevesque> I'm just making general notes in case I need to do this gain
[00:57] <def_anoch> usr13:  I wasn't actually hoping for a "fix" per say, I was more curious as to why it may happen as I don't like running into things that I don't understand heh
[00:57] <Etale> daftykins, how do I do that?
[00:57] <Etale> Just switch to "legacy only"? I guess I can try.
[00:57] <eeee> Etale: no, change the priority so it isn't legacy first
[00:57] <daftykins> Etale: the boot change? press F12 at boot and it should list your DVD drive twice... one entry for UEFI and one for legacy.
[00:58] <usr13> def_anoch: If you work with computers very much, you will *always* run into new things that you dont understand.
[00:58] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: windows 7 on first partition (ntfs), then ubuntu server 14 on second partition (etf)
[00:58] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, etf?
[00:58] <def_anoch> usr13: Yup, which is why I like to figure it out ;)
[00:58] <daftykins> eeee: oh yeah good spot, Etale yep do as suggested
[00:58] <Image> svetlana, right on man! that got er done! ;P
[00:58] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: ext4
[00:58] <usr13> def_anoch: But if it was working before, why would it not work now?  THat is your question?
[00:58] <Etale> Also, what partition should I pick as my "device for boot loader installation" when I install?
[00:58] <Image> svetlana thank you sir!
[00:58] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Thanks, is this a computer with a uefi bios?
[00:59] <eeee> Etale: you won't get that option in UEFI iirc
[00:59] <def_anoch> usr13: Essentially, yes.  I hadn't changed any settings, nor had I changed the network settings themselves.  It accepted the password as it did previously, and then just hung up and disconnected.
[00:59] <Etale> okay.
[00:59] <usr13> def_anoch: And if that is the question, you would need to look for changes to the system prior to that date.
[00:59] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: not sure
[00:59] <daftykins> Etale: it probably won't ask that once it's booting in EFI mode properly, as it'll know to use the EFI FAT partition
[01:00] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Can you get to a terminal from the ubuntu install disc to run sudo parted -l we can have it dump to a paste bin if needed to see.
[01:00] <def_anoch> usr13: Roger, that was my thought when a quick google didn't give me an answer.
[01:00] <Etale> Okay, it's loading in UEFI mode!
[01:00] <usr13> def_anoch:  Something like ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list
[01:00] <Etale> So I'll just go ahead and install...
[01:01] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: the supergrub ISO didn't work with either FAT, or NTFS formatted USB (using UNetbootin), so I'm loading up the rescue mode
[01:01] <usr13> def_anoch: Shift-PageUP
[01:01] <ZZRMike> How would I go about troubleshooting a connection issue with my wifi nic? I can use my phone's connection just fine, but as soon as I try to connect to any traditional access point I start having connection issues.
[01:01] <def_anoch> usr13: Much obliged.  I didn't know about that specifically.
[01:01] <eeee> Etale: this is a HUGE long shot, but why don't you try the ubuntu 14.04 cd ? (if it's on a cd already and you dont have to make a bootable usb)
[01:01] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: But, when i write up my documentation, i'd like to have the steps to setup ubuntu properly
[01:02] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, The general problem we see are computers now having UEFI bios and gpt partition tables. People will wipe the disc and go msdos installs but still have gpt remnants messing things up.
[01:02] <jeffreylevesque> i just don't want to install again
[01:02] <usr13> def_anoch: But if it were me, I'd just get the system updated first, (because you are more-than-likely solving a problem that wont exist afterward, so...).
[01:03] <def_anoch> usr13: Yup.  That's what I'm doing now, and was actually the original driving force behind the upgrade seeing as how my version was so far out of date.
[01:03] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, If it was bootable and you used supergrub correctly and could not get a boot I would say you have a bad install, or gpt issues possibly.
[01:04] <usr13> def_anoch: 14.04 is a good place to be. It is LTS and it is supported until April 2019
[01:05] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar, can i install grub to the second partition (/dev/sda2)?  Will this allow me to boot into Ubuntu (which is on the second partition)
[01:05] <def_anoch> usr13: I'm excited to see the changes.  Looking forward to getting my hands dirty with it.
[01:05] <usr13> def_anoch: The easiest thing to do would to back up  /home/ (and/or, don't format that partition), and do a fresh 14.04 install.
[01:05] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Why is a server your option, that is kinda advanced stuff, I would not even mess with it and I'm experienced, however I don't need a server.
[01:05] <usr13> def_anoch: I always put /home/ on a partition of it's own.
[01:06] <usr13> def_anoch: But just backing up the files is fine.
[01:06] <john38> Can a virus disable the wifi button on my laptop???
[01:06] <usr13> john38: no
[01:06] <def_anoch> usr13: *nods* as soon as I ensure that the wireless connection works with the update I plan on wiping the box and starting fresh.  I just need to back up some photo sets
[01:06] <usr13> john38: BTW, are you on the wrong channel?
[01:07] <john38> usr13, thanks
[01:07] <daftykins> eeee: i was tempted to push for it too, but perhaps we can just try the upgrade approach
[01:07] <usr13> def_anoch: The liveCD or USB will tell you that....
[01:07] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque> Beldar, can i install grub to the second partition (/dev/sda2)?  Will this allow me to boot into Ubuntu (which is on the second partition)  Not if sda2 is windows. Do you understand my comments on gpt and msdos regarding partition tables?
[01:08] <def_anoch> usr13: Point ;). It actually worked fine when I set up a liveusb so I suppose I'm just going in circles right now
[01:08] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: Just install grub to the MBR of sda
[01:08] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: /dev/sda
[01:08] <usr13> def_anoch: yep
[01:08] <eeee> daftykins: yeah, it's all good :)
[01:09] <def_anoch> usr13: Thanks much for the help though, I appreciate your time.
[01:09] <usr13> def_anoch: NP.  Glad to be of assistance.
[01:11] <usr13> jeffreylevesque: (grub will detect the other OS and automatically boot it.  You get the choice at boot time.
[01:12] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Any way others are just willing to give you answers without digging deeper like I will, so this is a waste of my time I have to wood shed on an instrument at this time.
[01:21] <cre8torx> hello
[01:21] <daftykins> hi
[01:24] <usr13> Beldar: What does it mean to wood shed an instrument?
[01:25] <daftykins> usr13: i believe it means work on his musical instrument, the type of which i've forgotten
[01:25] <daftykins> trumpet?
[01:25] <daftykins> saxophone
[01:26] <usr13> daftykins: Yea, maybe sax
[01:27] <Beldar> sax
[01:27] <usr13> awesome
[01:28] <Etale> eeee, I put in Ubuntu 14.04 to try to install that now. I get a bunch of errors of the type "SQUASHFS error: unable to read page, block blah, size blah".
[01:28] <Etale> Screw it, I'll just install 12.04 instead.
[01:28] <daftykins> eeee: bad download? bad burn?
[01:28] <daftykins> Etale: rightyo
[01:28] <Etale> daftykins, definitely not a bad burn. I checked.
[01:29] <usr13> Etale: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquashfsErrors
[01:29] <daftykins> ah, verify mode?
[01:29] <cre8torx> install 14.04
[01:29] <derrrrp> what commands can I use to list raid drives in prepartion for fsck?
[01:29] <eeee> Etale: yeah, it seems it has to do with the laptop model
[01:29] <derrrrp> fdisk -l and df are not showing me an expected output of /dev/md2
[01:29] <usr13> derrrrp: Do not run fsck on mounted partition(s)
[01:29] <Etale> Okay, 12.04 it is. Should I try to upgrade later, or is it hopeless/not worth it?
[01:29] <eeee> Etale: just so you know, it appears a downgrade of the bios fixes the problem, i wouldn't suggest it though..
[01:30] <derrrrp> usr13: i've already unmounted the partition, i just want to verify now that it is visible, and that it is unmounted
[01:30] <daftykins> Etale: see what works after the install and fully updating 12.04, first
[01:30] <eeee> seems messy business, just install 12.04 and upgrade
[01:30] <daftykins> eeee: mmm, Lenovo often make their updates uni-directional
[01:30] <usr13> daftykins: mount
[01:30] <daftykins> usr13: derrrrp ^
[01:30] <usr13> derrrrp: mount  && sudo fdisk -l
[01:31] <daftykins> do my fellow helpers that aren't ops, what do you think about us having our own channel aside from this?
[01:31] <daftykins> s/do/to/
[01:31] <usr13> daftykins:  #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[01:32] <derrrrp> usr13: fdisk -l lists my physical drives... should i be running fsck on individual drives or the whole partition?
[01:32] <derrrrp> for raid ^
[01:32] <usr13> derrrrp: Run fsck on partition(s)
[01:32] <daftykins> roger that
[01:32] <usr13> derrrrp: (one at a time)
[01:32] <derrrrp> usr13: how do i list the partitions, because no partitions are showing up after i unmounted it
[01:33] <derrrrp> i want an easy way to see 1) what partitions are currently mounted, and 2) what partitions are not mounted but available
[01:33] <usr13> derrrrp: sudo fdisk -l
[01:34] <usr13> derrrrp: mount #to see which ones are mounted
[01:34] <Foxhoundz> I'm sorry Ubuntu
[01:34] <derrrrp> usr13: fdisk -l is not returning partitions, only physical disks
[01:34] <eeee> derrrrp: lsblk, easy and visually appealing
[01:35] <Foxhoundz> it's been a long time coming, but I've finally made my move to OpenSUSE. You were ambitious but much too unstable for me. I will always love your helpful community, something I am surely to miss when I move to SUSE. Adieu!
[01:35] <derrrrp> eeee: lsblk is not currently installed on this system, or I would have used that :(
[01:35] <usr13> derrrrp: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit  #Let's have a look.
[01:35] <daftykins> Foxhoundz: enjoy
[01:35] <eeee> derrrrp: sudo parted -l, then?
[01:37] <dickfeynman> Hi, I'd like to know how I can upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04.1
[01:37] <derrrrp> eeee, usr13: http://pastebin.com/XsFYVX1n thanks
[01:38] <derrrrp> eeee: i don't believe i have parted installed either lol
[01:38] <derrrrp> eeee: i'll check after this preliminary fsck -n pass finishes
[01:38] <usr13> derrrrp: On drive sda you have 4 partitions, sda1, sda2, sda3 and sda5
[01:39] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Not a thing, but what is wrong with asking if we can use #ubuntuforums ?
[01:39] <usr13> derrrrp: Same with the others.
[01:40] <daftykins> Bashing-om: that's a good idea, i didn't know of that one
[01:40] <usr13> derrrrp: Correction.  sda3 is actually an extended partition, containing one continious logical partition sda5
[01:40] <derrrrp> usr13: they're in a raid configuration, i've been told by some people to just fsck the entirety of /dev/md2
[01:40] <derrrrp> but i can't seem to see dev/md2 normally, which i'm trying to figure out
[01:40] <usr13> derrrrp: man fsck
[01:41] <rww> daftykins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/UbuntuIRCHelpers happened a few years ago. It died due to lack of interest.
[01:41] <daftykins> rww: :O thanks
[01:42] <derrrrp> usr13: what is it under fsck would you like me to look at?
[01:42] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Nother one ( thjat is currently not seeing much use) #ubuntuforumsunanswered .
[01:43] <usr13> derrrrp: See section  "FSCK_FORCE_ALL_PARALLEL"
[01:44] <usr13> derrrrp: man man
[01:44] <usr13> derrrrp: (learn to search man files for needed info.)
[01:45] <derrrrp> usr13: so in otherwords you're telling me to rtfm, thanks.
[01:45] <usr13> derrrrp: You are welcome
[01:45] <eeee> rtfm ?
[01:45] <usr13> Read The Fine Manal
[01:45] <derrrrp> eeee: "read the fscking manual"
[01:46] <eeee> yeah i kind of understood it right before derrrrp answered, lol
[01:46] <usr13> derrrrp: man files are your friends.
[01:46] <treats> if I use the gui file browser and point to ssh://myfileserver, where does that get mounted?
[01:46] <Etale> eeee, daftykins , Ubuntu 12.04 installation worked! BUT! No wlan0? That's pretty weird, seeing as the installation detected the wifi...
[01:46] <eeee> derrrrp: he's trying to teach you how to learn stuff
[01:47] <usr13> That's what we're here for
[01:47] <derrrrp> eeee: yes I realize that, and it's counterproductive when I am seeking help to solve a problem
[01:47] <usr13> We have fish hooks and we have fish
[01:47] <daftykins> Etale: was it connected to the wifi at the time - with 'install updates during install' selected?
[01:47] <Etale> daftykins, yes.
[01:47] <daftykins> Etale: yeah, sometimes what works in the live environment breaks once updates are applied
[01:48] <Bashing-om> Etale: daftykins // Maybe fully update 12.04 and see what "additional drivers" offers ?
[01:48] <Etale> Also, I can't see the shared partition for some reason, when doing "df"?
[01:48] <daftykins> ^ sounds good, we know it to be intel 7xxx series wifi Bashing-om
[01:49] <usr13> derrrrp: There are a couple of ways to do what you want to do, it is up to you to discover which best fits your needs.
[01:49] <daftykins> Etale: it's probably just not mounted
[01:49] <daftykins> Etale: depends if you gave it a mount point during the install
[01:49] <Etale> daftykins, I didn't... Should I have?
[01:49] <Etale> Oy...
[01:49] <daftykins> Etale: it's no biggy to resolve
[01:50] <eeee> Etale: you just go to the file manager and click on the partition to mount it,
[01:50] <usr13> I told you the way I would do it.  I would just do one partition at a time.  *(That was my suggestion)*  fsck -y /dev/sda1
[01:50] <Etale> In the "additional drivers" it just has NVIDIA stuff. (Which, btw, it won't allow me to activate...)
[01:50] <Etale> eeee, right! gj!
[01:51] <Etale> And what about the wifi?
[01:51] <usr13> derrrrp: do sda1 sda2 and then sda5  Then move on to sdb
[01:52] <usr13> derrrrp: Or, pick the one you think there may be a problem with.
[01:53] <daftykins> Etale: mmm i need to look that up, if you open a terminal and run "lspci" can you remind me of the # ? intel 7260?
[01:54] <Etale> The lspci is long... But I have a Intel Single Band Wireless 7260BN.
[01:55] <derrrrp> usr13: I want to do a complete scan and I want to make sure that I don't accidentally mess anything up in the process... I'm not familiar w/ scanning LVM raid
[01:55] <derrrrp> not sure if that has an impact on how I should be using fsck
[01:56] <diphtherial> hey, is there some tool that i could use to maintain a list of ssh sessions w/credentials, settings, etc. associated with each?
[01:56] <diphtherial> i could use putty, but i'm wondering if there's anything else
[01:57] <Beldar> usr13, wood shed is a slang term for practicing. ;)
[01:57] <psusi> diphtherial, what do you mean?  you can put custom settings for different sessions in your ~/.ssh.conf
[01:58] <rww> ~/.ssh/config
[01:58] <diphtherial> psusi: to put it simply, i'm looking for a program with a GUI that displays a list of ssh hosts
[01:58] <diphtherial> that i'd previously added, of course
[01:58] <Etale> I guess I should do "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[01:58] <Etale> I'll just do that. Maybe this will help the wifi...
[01:58] <Etale> 183 need to be upgraded.
[01:58] <daftykins> Etale: that'd require an internet connection. can you do "cat /etc/issue" ?
[01:59] <Etale> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[01:59] <daftykins> oh you have working wired, excellent
[01:59] <daftykins> Etale: do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" rather than a standard upgrade
[01:59] <Etale> Okay.
[01:59] <daftykins> Etale: best to do a "sudo apt-get update" prior to that too :>
[01:59] <Etale> mmm...
[02:00] <Etale> It didn't like that at all...
[02:00] <Etale> E: unable to fetch some arhjives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[02:00] <Etale> *archives
[02:00] <Etale> Should I do that?
[02:01] <GeekDude> Is there an ubuntu server 14.04 for 32-bit computers?
[02:01] <Etale> (the --fix-missing)?
[02:02] <Etale> Should I? daftykins , eeee ?
[02:02] <rww> GeekDude: http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.1-server-i386.iso
[02:03] <GeekDude> Thank you rww. Any reason the webpage says this? https://db.tt/GpLeKGWC
[02:03] <daftykins> Etale: no, you just have no active connection right now by the sounds of it. do you get any interface *other than* 'lo' from "ifconfig -a" ?
[02:03] <psusi> diphtherial, what for?  you know where you want to ssh to so you just type sss wheverver... if the host name is too long or you normally specify options, you can put the options and a short alias in your ssh conf file
[02:03] <Etale> daftykins, eth0.
[02:04] <daftykins> Etale: ah does it have an IP address on your network?
[02:04] <daftykins> working internet connection on the system etc?
[02:04] <rww> GeekDude: interesting. Not sure, will research it.
[02:04] <Etale> daftykins, you mean an "inet"?
[02:04] <Etale> How do I check?
[02:05] <daftykins> Etale: it should have an address like 192.168.x.x
[02:05] <daftykins> beside eth0
[02:05] <eeee> Etale: just try to browse with firefox, or try ping google.com
[02:05] <daftykins> (assuming you have your cable plugged in)
[02:05] <Etale> No...
[02:05] <kostkon> GeekDude, tried to download the arm version maybe?
[02:05] <GeekDude> maybe
[02:05] <Etale> unknown host google.com
[02:05]  * GeekDude double checks
[02:06] <GeekDude> kostkon: doesn't look like it
[02:07] <daftykins> Etale: "ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[02:07] <eeee> Etale: do you know your IP info ?
[02:07] <ubuntu> no
[02:08] <Etale> daftykins, network is unreachable.
[02:08] <daftykins> ok sounds like you have no IP
[02:08] <Etale> eeee, I can check from another laptop on the same network. Does that count?
[02:08] <daftykins> do you see two arrows beside the clock?
[02:08] <daftykins> yep check the IP of another system
[02:08] <eeee> Etale: yeah get the gateway and dns
[02:09] <Etale> eeee, the dns you mean from /etc/resolv.conf?
[02:09] <eeee> what? no
[02:10] <eeee> i mean like your home network, e.g <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:10] <eeee> if it's an ubuntu machine, type ip addr, to get the info
[02:10] <Etale> eeee, what appears after the inet when I type ifconfig?
[02:11] <Etale> Okay, I did this.
[02:12] <st83> ahooy!  any good sandbox for linux mint? (sandbox firefox for security and privacy)
[02:12] <rww> !mintsupport
[02:13] <st83> ok thanks anyway
[02:13] <Etale> eeee, daftykins real life calls! My wife wants me to go to a place. I'll leave irc open for a few more minutes, so if you can give me just enough so that I can do some research on my own later about how to continue, that'd be great!
[02:14] <Etale> And thank you both very very much!
[02:15] <daftykins> Etale: i found this for wifi but i have no idea how you'll accomplish it without a working internet connection - wouldn't hurt trying to run "sudo dhclient eth0" though. For WiFi - http://askubuntu.com/questions/331667/no-wireless-for-intel-corporation-7260-version-63
[02:17] <eeee> Etale: you need to edit the connections > click on the network indicator > edit connections create > ethernet, add the ip address e.g. <IP_ADDRESS> for your ubuntu 12.04, and the gateway(& dns) e.g <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:20] <Etale> Okay, thanks again! I'm shutting off.
[02:21] <Geo> Hi, I'm writing an init.d script and of course its not starting properly. Where do errors generated from an init script get logged?
[02:24] <jakesyl> hello i want to have an ssh server with multiple users, who have different keys that give them a different level of access on the server
[02:24] <jakesyl> hello i want to have an ssh server with multiple users, who have different keys that give them a different level of access on the server
[02:24] <jakesyl> hello i want to have an ssh server with multiple users, who have different keys that give them a different level of access on the server
[02:24] <jakesyl> hello i want to have an ssh server with multiple users, who have different keys that give them a different level of access on the server
[02:24] <jakesyl> hello i want to have an ssh server with multiple users, who have different keys that give them a different level of access on the server
[02:24] <jakesyl> hello i want to have an ssh server with multiple users, who have different keys that give them a different level of access on the server
[02:24] <jakesyl> hello i want to have an ssh server with multiple users, who have different keys that give them a different level of access on the server
[02:24] <unopaste> jakesyl you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:25] <brianblaze420> lol no need to spam jakesyl
[02:25] <SchrodingersScat> users of the system are users on ssh
[02:25] <jakesyl> haha sorry new irc client, still not sure how it works brianblaze420
[02:25] <laspahr> hey, anyone know where the best place to find support for a not working old macbook? It won't power on or charge as far as I know, but it might still work
[02:26] <jakesyl> so how do i remotely add users to the system SchrodingersScat
[02:26] <brianblaze420> install linux install ssh activate keys remove password authentication
[02:27] <SchrodingersScat> jakesyl: probably through ssh
[02:27] <jakesyl> why remove pass authentication, i want this to be secure brianblaze420, so i don't know if this was clear in my intro but i have clients connecting to a non-local server and exchanging files
[02:27] <brianblaze420> remove password authentication from sshd config so ppl have to use keys
[02:27] <Geo> jakesyl: you said you wanted to use keys... removing the password options forces the user to use keys instead
[02:27] <SchrodingersScat> !users | jakesyl
[02:28] <jakesyl> okay thanks geo
[02:29] <Geo> brianblaze420 told you twice, first :P
[02:29] <Geo> no worries, good luck
[02:29] <Volis> Hey, I'm getting an error with sudo apt-get update
[02:29] <Volis> E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_i18n_Translation-en (1)
[02:30] <Volis> It says the "package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[02:31] <jakesyl> geo, SchrodingersScat and is there any guide/documentation/crashcourse that you could point me to for what i want to do/
[02:31] <daftykins> laspahr: what *does* happen? nothing?
[02:32] <brianblaze420> google ssh server there is tons of documentation and when u r pro with it it can be very secure
[02:32] <laspahr> daftykins: well.. I open it up, plug it in, and depending on the charger the cord's LED turns orange flashing or green. the laptop does nothing that I know of
[02:32] <Geo> I copied the /etc/init.d/skeleton and modified it a bit, but the first 'echo' I put under the start case never prints, let alone my service start. Why would that be?
[02:33] <SchrodingersScat> jakesyl: not sure we're completely clear what you are doing, but here's something about sftp: https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/limiting-access-with-sftp-jails-on-debian-and-ubuntu/
[02:34] <Geo> jakesyl: google for disable ssh password auth    or something similar
[02:34] <daftykins> laspahr: mmm, #hardware then
[02:34] <Geo> there should be a lot of documentation out on it, its just removing/modifying an option from the sshd config, iirc
[02:36] <meganerd> if you just want sftp plus jails, it is pretty straightforward
[02:36] <copernicus> quick question to anyone who thinks they have thoughts on the matter, I really need help with this because I'm puzzled.
[02:36] <meganerd> google will get you where you need.
[02:36] <laspahr> daftykins: thx
[02:36] <copernicus> why is every web browser I install slow as hell
[02:36] <laspahr> daftykins: wait join #hardware?
[02:36] <daftykins> laspahr: yep
[02:36] <daftykins> laspahr: might be double ##, not sure
[02:37] <laspahr> yup
[02:37] <daftykins> copernicus: OS? version? hardware spec?
[02:37] <meganerd> copernicus: could be any number of things
[02:37] <copernicus> -nothing to do with bandwidth, my other machines are swift online
[02:37] <meganerd> copernicus: bad dns, bad wifi, bad connection, crappy hardware... the list is endless
[02:38] <copernicus> well this machine is a dell dimension 4600 pentium 2 at 2.80 ghz, lubuntu, 1GB ram, etc, etc
[02:38] <meganerd> copernicus:  did you have any iptables rules on this machine?
[02:38] <copernicus> this machine runs fine, however chromium, firefox, etc all run laggy
[02:38] <copernicus> meganerd, explain
[02:39] <meganerd> copernicus: which part?
[02:39] <daftykins> copernicus: can you grab the model from "cat /proc/cpuinfo" ? there's no such thing as a pentium 2 at 2.8GHz ;)
[02:39] <copernicus> pentium 4, my bad
[02:39] <ProfessorKaos64> is dmesg the only way to see kernel messages? How can I view the complete bootup logging?
[02:39] <copernicus> I'm still frazzled form work
[02:39] <copernicus> from work**
[02:39] <meganerd> copernicus: pentium 4s are still pretty terrible
[02:39] <daftykins> ^
[02:39] <copernicus> I know, this machine was free though.
[02:39] <daftykins> P4 and 1GB, even with lubuntu is pretty crappy
[02:39] <daftykins> copernicus: i'd check the health condition of the hard disk though.
[02:39] <copernicus> It's actually swift
[02:40] <copernicus> in every way
[02:40] <kostkon> ~3GHz P4 is fast enough
[02:40] <copernicus> except browsing the web, the browser will lag
[02:40] <meganerd> copernicus: it is the browsers, right now FF and chrome are together consuming 4+ GB of RAM on my NUC
[02:40] <daftykins> copernicus: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" ... "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[02:40] <meganerd> copernicus: P4 is not swift in anyway, unless you are comparing to ARM.
[02:40] <copernicus> daftykins, the hard disk condition is at OK
[02:41] <daftykins> copernicus: that would be reported so even if the disk were up the creek, could you run the above to be sure?
[02:41] <copernicus> I'm installing luakit now to see if it will be anything better
[02:41] <kostkon> copernicus, what's the graphics card, it could be graphics lag or something else like... flash
[02:41] <copernicus> one moment daftykins
[02:41] <rocket_calibre> hey, is it possible to configure GRUB to automatically shutdown if an OS is not selected within the timeout period?
[02:42] <meganerd> copernicus: anyway, are they slow to start, slow to browse, certain sites, there are literally a hundred things that could be going wrong.  Flash would be the number 1 suspect for me
[02:42] <meganerd> copernicus: have you enabled a firewall at all?
[02:42] <Beldar> rocket_calibre, just for fun why?
[02:42] <daftykins> rocket_calibre: i'd rather configure myself not to press power.
[02:42] <copernicus> kostkon, NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 garbage
[02:43] <copernicus> meganerd, no, not beyond my router
[02:43] <meganerd> copernicus: you could also disable hardware acceleration in the browsers
[02:43] <meganerd> copernicus: OK, though on an unrelated note, a router is not a firewall.
[02:45] <ytc> 怎样从14.04升级到14.04.1，用的是麒麟
[02:45] <meganerd> copernicus: in FF preferences -> advanced -> general, uncheck "Use hardware acceleration when available".  Chrome/Chromium has a similar option at the bottom of their preference page
[02:45] <daftykins> !cn | ytc
[02:45] <copernicus> meganerd, I will try that
[02:45] <meganerd> copernicus: I would actually uncheck everything else on that screen as well.
[02:45] <ytc> ubottu: THX
[02:46] <copernicus> and my weird centurylink router has a built in firewall
[02:46] <meganerd> copernicus: it might work, it probably doesn't though.  This is now getting OT, sorry about that.
[02:46] <rocket_calibre> @Beldar, @daftykins: got an old laptop alongside lighting hooked up to 1 of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFQeBc-FsCc , would like it to auto shutdown unless a user decides they would like to use the laptop as well as the lights
[02:47] <ytc> how can i get into #ubuntu-cn ?
[02:48] <daftykins> "/j #ubuntu-cn"
[02:48] <copernicus> meganerd, would it be prudent to download the firewall creator I saw on Apper earlier or compile my own or?
[02:48] <eeee> ytc:  type /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:48] <varunendra> ProfessorKaos64, the kernel messages are logged in dmesg, syslog and kern.log files located in /var/log directory. The syslog file is a lot more verbose than dmesg.
[02:48] <copernicus> brb
[02:49] <ProfessorKaos64> thanks varunendra
[02:49] <varunendra> welcome ProfessorKaos64 :)
[02:50] <ProfessorKaos64> I wish I could figure out why my controller works fine on bootup with xboxdrv ,but not if I unplug it and replug in ubuntu (hid_sony module takes over)
[02:51] <meganerd> copernicus: firewalls are built in (iptables), the rest are just front end apps.  ufw ships with Ubuntu so I would just look at that.
[02:51] <varunendra> ProfessorKaos64, what kind of controller?
[02:51] <ProfessorKaos64> ps3 usb/wired
[02:51] <Beldar> rocket_calibre, Having the computer set up to start that way us the issue, that is lets say crazy.
[02:51] <meganerd> copernicus: the reason I asked about a firewall is that I accidnetally blocked localhost traffic once and my browsers slowed down.
[02:51] <Beldar> is*
[02:51] <ProfessorKaos64> no problem if I reboot, but i'm trying to implement hotplugging for the usb devices in my project
[02:51] <rocket_calibre> @Beldar, what makes it crazy?
[02:52] <ProfessorKaos64> varunendra, you can kind of get an idea of what I do in one of my helper scripts here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7870362/
[02:52] <Beldar> rocket_calibre, Personal opinion and offtopic.
[02:52] <rocket_calibre> ok
[02:53] <rocket_calibre> is it possible to configure grub to send a shutdown command?
[02:53] <copernicus> thanks meganerd.
[02:54] <FredTom> i need to share files to and from my macbook.. and i can't get it to work
[02:54] <FredTom> i've created a share in ubuntu 12.04 and i can't see it from osx
[02:54] <daftykins> via what method?
[02:54] <daftykins> finder browsing?
[02:55] <meganerd> FredTom: what did you create the share with?  nfs, samba, sftp?
[02:55] <FredTom> whatever the built in one is
[02:56] <Beldar> rocket_calibre, try #grub they would be more likely to know I think
[02:56] <FredTom> right click,  sharing options, share this folder
[02:56] <rocket_calibre> Thanks @Beldar
[02:57] <eeee> rocket_calibre: what are you trying to achieve ultimately?
[02:59] <varunendra> ProfessorKaos64, probably you may try a *logical* usb reset by detaching/re-attaching the usb hub driver from the PCI bus it is on? Works 100% with some devices but with some others, sometimes not or not at all.
[02:59] <Beldar> eeee, <rocket_calibre> @Beldar, @daftykins: got an old laptop alongside lighting hooked up to 1 of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFQeBc-FsCc , would like it to auto shutdown unless a user decides they would like to use the laptop as well as the lights
[02:59] <rocket_calibre> for conservation of power
[02:59] <WACOMalt> Hey folks. I'm trying to repair an img file of a SSD I once had
[02:59] <rocket_calibre> and also pandering to laziness
[03:00] <WACOMalt> it was a partclone made img file so it was in a img.gz.aa .ab .ac etc etc file
[03:00] <WACOMalt> I managed to assembled them into a simgle img file but it wont muont
[03:00] <Beldar> WACOMalt, Not a new partition?
[03:00] <WACOMalt> ?
[03:01] <WACOMalt> no I'm not trying to restore to a new drive
[03:01] <WACOMalt> ust trying to mount the img
[03:01] <Beldar> WACOMalt, mount can be a number of issues partition is one, to be honest you are yet to give any relevant info we can work with
[03:02] <WACOMalt> which info do I need to give, I'll happily help you help me, just dont know where to start
[03:02] <WACOMalt> I used this answer to combine the files to one img: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453114/restoring-clonezilla-images-cat-gzip-partclone-not-working
[03:03] <WACOMalt> it was a SSD with a single partition, which wound up being sda2 for the backup
[03:03] <jay_why_bee> I cannot for the life of me get VINO autostarting in Lubuntu 14.04.  I have ~/.config/autostart/vino-server.desktop.  Anyone got some pointers on how to troubleshoot autostart issues on LXDE?
[03:03] <Beldar> WACOMalt, This an linux image?
[03:03] <WACOMalt> it's an image of a windows machine
[03:03] <WACOMalt> so in the commands I used ntfs instead
[03:04] <varunendra> ProfessorKaos64, probably you may try a *logical* usb reset by detaching/re-attaching the usb hub driver from the PCI bus it is on? Works 100% with some devices but with some others, sometimes not or not at all.
[03:04] <meganerd> WACOMalt: what exactly is the command you are using to mount the uncompressed image
[03:04] <Beldar> WACOMalt, You did this a while back I remember this right?
[03:04] <ProfessorKaos64> varunendra, interesting, any reading material or hints on how to do that? I don't mind reading some docs if I have to
[03:05] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: sorry, left the room.  I am trying to familiarize myself with Ubuntu Server, that's why I am trying to use it.  I reinstalled ubuntu server 14.04 and made sure to install GRUB to the master boot record.  It just finished.  When the computer rebooted, there was no GRUB, or prompt to switch partitions.  I rebooted windows, pressed F8, to see if I could boot into Ubuntu (Grub), but no luck.
[03:05] <WACOMalt> mount -o loop sda2.img /mnt/oldssd
[03:06] <meganerd> WACOMalt:  and what is the error?
[03:06] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Do you have any live  ubuntu with a desktop, discs or usb?
[03:06] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque: VM'ing with virtualbox would've probably been a far more suitable approach
[03:07] <varunendra> ProfessorKaos64, I wrote a post on that a long ago, but my knowledge on the mechanism was very new and immature at that time (still not very strong), but see if it can help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2142366&p=12665382#post12665382
[03:07] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: yes, sir.  I created a USB bootstick with ubuntu server 14.04 (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server), with UNetbootin
[03:07] <introom> is there a dedicated option for `find` to find substring, instead of specifically type`find -iname '*mysubstring*'` ??
[03:07] <jay_why_bee> Anyone got any tips on troubleshooting autostart problems on LXDE?  Everything else I want starts, except vino-server.?
[03:07] <Nickd55345353> hello
[03:07] <ProfessorKaos64> K I will check that out, and if it doesnt get me all the way, maybe some helpful clues none the less. Thanks!
[03:07] <Nickd55345353> please
[03:07] <WACOMalt> NTFS Signature is missing
[03:07] <Pici> jay_why_bee: not to my knowledge.
[03:07] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, with a desktop not a server.
[03:08] <WACOMalt> sudo mount -t ntfs /mnt/M_Drive/sda2.img /mnt/oldssd
[03:08] <WACOMalt>  is actually the command, sorry
[03:08] <Nickd55345353> when i installed ubuntu on my friends pc
[03:08] <jeffreylevesque> daftykins, VM, having a OS on an OS slows down processes
[03:08] <svetlana> Nickd55345353, ? in one line , ask please in one line ?
[03:08] <Nickd55345353> the sound seemed a little bit lower
[03:08] <meganerd> WACOMalt: what does "file /mnt/M_Drive/sda2.img" return?
[03:08] <svetlana> Nickd55345353, could be a hardware thing, my laptop is quieted under any os
[03:08] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque: you wouldn't notice were it done right.
[03:08] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: can I use a server?
[03:08] <svetlana> Nickd55345353, quieter
[03:08] <Beldar> Nickd55345353, Post the actual issue in one post please.
[03:09] <Nickd55345353> svetlana when she had windows the sound was a little bit louder
[03:09] <WACOMalt> meganerd, /mnt/M_Drive/sda2.img: data
[03:09] <meganerd> WACOMalt: so that is not good, it means that it is not detecting a file system
[03:09] <jay_why_bee> I have tried adding to ~/,config/autostart, /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart, ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart.  Nothing seems to happen.  And I don't know where to get a log of this problem.
[03:09] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Sure, however I would like to see a script run that outline a lot of info and you need a dektop to do it from.
[03:09] <jeffreylevesque> daftykins, to get all the nitpicks of making sure ubuntu can access usb, etc.  Versus a straight OS / server
[03:09] <meganerd> WACOMalt: are you sure that you decompressed it?
[03:09] <WACOMalt> this is odd. long ago I did this same procedure with the segmented img and it worked
[03:09] <svetlana> Nickd55345353, then please give hardware details, someone would look into it for you. ask on one line. "with computer of this model the sound appears to be quieter than under another os on the same computer"
[03:10] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque: you're doing it wrong if you want a server accessing USB
[03:10] <WACOMalt> but I lost the merged img file
[03:10] <paperman> how do I watch netflix on ubuntu?
[03:10] <paperman> lol
[03:10] <paperman> this is stupid
[03:10] <daftykins> !netflix
[03:10] <WACOMalt> so Im trying to do it again
[03:10] <svetlana> Nickd55345353, and don't address me in particular when you're doing that as such issue is out of my depth
[03:10] <Guido1> is daftykins: on?
[03:10] <daftykins> Guido1: yeah still floating around
[03:10] <Nickd55345353> ok
[03:10] <meganerd> WACOMalt: so is this an image with a bunch of partitions, or just a single partition?
[03:10] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: what kind of script?
[03:10] <WACOMalt> just a single partition
[03:11] <Beldar> !bootinfo | jeffreylevesque
[03:11] <WACOMalt> I do have the whole backup from clonezilla still with each individual partition
[03:11] <Guido1> daftykins: just checked another drive and i don't know how to interpret the results
[03:11] <paperman> thanks Daemoen
[03:11] <daftykins> Guido1: ok, pastebin away
[03:11] <paperman> *daftykins
[03:11] <WACOMalt> but no drive to pass it onto. hence why I'm trying to mount
[03:12] <Guido1> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7871179/
[03:12] <meganerd> WACOMalt: I have to go, will be back in an hour or so.  You want the single partition, not the whole drive.  You might want to have a look at that image with ntfsinfo and ntfsfix
[03:12] <WACOMalt> :/
[03:13] <meganerd> WACOMalt: what you want to do is doable, though NTFS is pretty fagile
[03:13] <WACOMalt> yeah previously I used OSFMount on windows once it was combined to mount as a drive
[03:13] <WACOMalt> now it's not working with this file, nor is linux
[03:14] <meganerd> WACOMalt: was the windows partition encrypted (bitlocker, truecrypt)?
[03:14] <WACOMalt> no
[03:14] <daftykins> Guido1: perfectly fine that drive, nothing in ID's #1, #5, #7 or #199
[03:14] <excelsiora> best practices on installing scipy, numpy, pandas, etc?
[03:14] <meganerd> WACOMalt: have a look at that image with ntfsinfo, gotta run for real.
[03:15] <WACOMalt> ok thanks
[03:15] <Guido1> daftykins: is there somewhere a guide for interpreting the output?
[03:15] <daftykins> Guido1: none that i know of, i've just accrued understanding over time and first-hand experience. i've seen a looooot of disks die :)
[03:16] <WACOMalt> ntfsinfo seems to only work on a device, this is an img file
[03:17] <Guido1> daftykins: as you probaply saw, the disk is 530 h in use. it's part of a laptop i bought about a monthe ago
[03:17] <daftykins> WACOMalt: -F file?
[03:17] <WACOMalt> I did thaty
[03:17] <WACOMalt> ntfsinfo -F /mnt/M_Drive/sda2.img
[03:17] <WACOMalt> just prints the help
[03:18] <daftykins> try --file file
[03:18] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Any way to get that bootinfo script run?
[03:18] <WACOMalt> same error daftykins You must specify exactly one device.
[03:18] <daftykins> WACOMalt: heh, odd program then
[03:19] <Guido1> daftykinsso is it also in a state in which it should be after one month of use?
[03:19] <WACOMalt> ugh, if this drive backup is toast I'm gonna be pretty distraught
[03:20] <Guido1> daftykins: so is it also in a state in which it should be after one month of use?
[03:20] <daftykins> Guido1: yeah there's no sign of any issue with it, it's been powered on a lot of that month though :D
[03:21] <radiogenic> which linux flavor is the best/
[03:21] <radiogenic> ?
[03:21] <radiogenic> ubuntu or suse?
[03:21] <Beldar> !topic | radiogenic
[03:22] <radiogenic> lol
[03:22] <radiogenic> Beldar you are funny
[03:22] <cynicallemon> radiogenic, whichever makes you the happiest
[03:22] <daftykins> there's no such thing as best
[03:22] <svetlana> radiogenic, hi.
[03:22] <Beldar> radiogenic, That is not even close to the topic, it is not a joke.
[03:22] <radiogenic> Beldar are you mad?
[03:22] <Beldar> no
[03:23] <radiogenic> ok good
[03:23] <radiogenic> you seemed mad there
[03:23] <daftykins> looks like a similar troll from a while back
[03:23] <svetlana> radiogenic, I tried many distros but I thin the distinctions are artificial. They all come with the same software and great tools for development. -- Please idle for a few moments as people are thinking that you might be heading in a slightly wrong direction.
[03:23] <Beldar> radiogenic, project your issue on another channel.
[03:23] <radiogenic> Beldar are you mad?
[03:24] <radiogenic> (i think Beldar is mad)
[03:24] <svetlana> radiogenic: /msg.
[03:24] <daftykins> svetlana: do not engage the trolls.
[03:24] <daftykins> not everyone can be helped
[03:25] <Guido1> daftykins: so is it also in a state in which it should be after one month of use? sorry for posting 3 times - conection to the chat failed
[03:25] <daftykins> Guido1: yeah there's no sign of any issue with it, it's been powered on a lot of that month though :D
[03:26] <Guido1> daftykins: it's the internal laptop drive
[03:27] <Guido1> daftykins: okee, because by starting up it makes for the first one ore two minuts a scratchi sound
[03:27] <ldf85> Hello - Is there a website that I can check to see if a Dell RAID card is compatible with Ubuntu 14.04?
[03:27] <Guido1> and sometimes later
[03:28] <derrrrp> how safe is it to kill fsck
[03:28] <daftykins> Guido1: yeah, all different brands and models have their own funny tendancies. i'm SSD in all my systems now
[03:28] <daftykins> derrrrp: why what's up? process taking forever?
[03:28] <derrrrp> daftykins: yess...
[03:28] <derrrrp> daftykins: also, it's not writing to a text file like i wanted it to, :/
[03:29] <daftykins> err why would you try to do that? log output?
[03:29] <derrrrp> yeah
[03:29] <daftykins> derrrrp: guess it depends how much you care for the data on the afflicted volume
[03:29] <derrrrp> fsck.ext4 -pvfc /dev/vg1000/lv >> ~/fsck.txt
[03:30] <derrrrp> daftykins: i mean , killing it half way, is it going to randomly write to my volume or something?
[03:30] <derrrrp> it's just a routine check
[03:30] <derrrrp> there's nothing wrong (yet) w/ my drive...
[03:30] <daftykins> that's an interesting choice of switches for a routine run
[03:30] <derrrrp> well it's been around 2 years since i've last run any sort of fsck on this
[03:30] <derrrrp> just being cautious
[03:31] <daftykins> hang on lemme check
[03:32] <daftykins> derrrrp: it wasn't mounted, right?
[03:32] <derrrrp> daftykins: that is correct
[03:33] <derrrrp> daftykins: the general consensus so far that i've read, is that it *should* be safe to kill
[03:33] <derrrrp> http://serverfault.com/questions/57573/how-dangerous-is-it-to-interrupt-an-fsck
[03:33] <daftykins> well, as i say - your data, your gamble :)
[03:33] <derrrrp> but better safe than sorry
[03:33] <daftykins> can you at least see an activity light to tell if it's working or not?
[03:33] <derrrrp> it's working
[03:33] <Guido1> daftykins: okee, I'm just a bit carful as data recovery can be expensive etc.
[03:34] <derrrrp> i see the proces running and a child process has spawned called: "badblocks -b 4096 -X /dev/vg1000/lv<PHONE_NUMBER>" which is a little concerning lol
[03:35] <daftykins> i'd say leave it overnight
[03:35] <derrrrp> daftykins: but then i won't know what's fixed :( it's not outputting to my txt file lol
[03:35] <derrrrp> daftykins: i tried killing it, but it doesn't seem to want to stop running
[03:35] <daftykins> it would've done so to standard out
[03:36] <daftykins> well if you ctrl+C'd, it may take some time to interrupt if it's going to exit gracefully
[03:36] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: thank you for your assistance today!  I used boot-repair-disk after installation to reinstall grub.  Now, I am able to choose which partition to load.  Any chance I can choose Windows 7 to be the default one to boot, instead of Ubuntu?
[03:36] <derrrrp> daftykins: will i err, put a ampersand at the end of it, so it detached it from the terminal lol
[03:37] <daftykins> derrrrp: @_@
[03:37] <derrrrp> wait typically will fsck write to /var/log?
[03:37] <daftykins> consider this an official slap on the wrist
[03:37] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Yes but not my area of help really.
[03:38] <derrrrp> daftykins: i'm ssh'd into this box, so i didn't want the process to do weird things if i suspended my computer
[03:38] <derrrrp> i don't think it would... but better safe than sorry :x
[03:38] <derrrrp> is there anyway to reattach to that process?
[03:38] <eeee> derrrrp: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1323956/how-to-redirect-output-of-an-already-running-process
[03:38] <eeee> you can use gdb to modify it on-the-fly
[03:39] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Editing_the_File
[03:39] <daftykins> derrrrp: you need to learn how to use screen my friend
[03:40] <derrrrp> daftykins: yes i regret not setting that up before i started this :/
[03:40] <daftykins> but... remote fsck? honestly this whole tale is worrying
[03:40] <derrrrp> daftykins: i don't usually touch this box, and i've spent most of my time scraping through shoddy documentation
[03:40] <derrrrp> daftykins: there is no other way to do it, it's a synology nas box
[03:40] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Since all you have is a terminal check this link go past the grub customizer to the terminal method. http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[03:40] <daftykins> was that fsck even of your own volition or taken from online?
[03:41] <daftykins> ooooh, not even ubuntu then.
[03:41] <derrrrp> daftykins: it's of my own volition lol
[03:41] <derrrrp> daftykins: yeah, it took me hours just to figure out how to umount that volume, beause it kept refusing to mount
[03:42] <derrrrp> daftykins: i already tried running it w/ -n and it toook around 2 hours to finish, and it reported errors present
[03:42] <jeffreylevesque> Beldar: i installed ubuntu desktop with my server.  But, this link is very useful.  Thank you!
[03:42] <derrrrp> daftykins: honestly my biggest fear is that running fsck will somehow mess up my raid / lvm
[03:42] <Geo> I wrote a init.d script from skeleton, and now when I do service foo start it doesn't return me to the command line (its running in the foreground?) How do I avoid that
[03:43] <jeffreylevesque> I'm going to turn this OSX off now, and start working on my Ubuntu Server
[03:43] <jeffreylevesque> thank you!
[03:44] <daftykins> derrrrp: yeah your tale just keeps getting worse :S
[03:44] <OERIAS> Do you think Canonical will allow Ubuntu apps run in Android, much in a way how apps for FireFox OS run in Android?
[03:44] <daftykins> love synology though \o/
[03:44] <daftykins> OERIAS: totally off topic for this channel, join #ubuntu-touch
[03:45] <derrrrp> daftkins: tell me something positive :O
[03:45] <derrrrp> daftykins: *^
[03:45] <daftykins> can't, can't support you either i'm afraid as that's not ubuntu
[03:46] <OERIAS> Off topic my ass!
[03:46] <rww> OERIAS: it's not a matter of "Canonical allow", it's a matter of "will someone write an app to convert them
[03:46] <rww> I don't see why Canonical or Ubuntu would be interested in doing so, so...
[03:47] <daftykins> OERIAS: your posterior is indeed also off topic.
[03:47] <derrrrp> daftykins: http://cdn.alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/svg/rage-super-rage.svg
[03:47] <Beldar> lol
[03:47] <svetlana> this "this is offtopic" is annoyingly noisy :s
[03:47] <daftykins> that's a nice scalable vector graphic
[03:47] <daftykins> svetlana: you can either accept policy or go elsewhere
[03:48] <rww> Let's calm down, folks :)
[03:48] <svetlana> daftykins, indeed, I'm just trying to figure out what the questions were among a slightly unusual sort of things :s
[03:48]  * svetlana nods
[03:48] <OERIAS> daftykins, I meant the previous message was joke.
[03:48] <OERIAS> I am sorry.
[03:48] <derrrrp> okay hypothetically if I were to have done this on ubuntu /w LVM and RAID what should I watch out for when using fsck... should i even be fscking my volumes?
[03:49] <Beldar> derrrrp, no fsck unless needed really
[03:49] <daftykins> i'm afraid i cannot assist with attempts to try and make a scenario applicable, fact is i would not have messed around with a synology NAS in such a way to begin with
[03:49] <Geo> I wrote a init.d script from skeleton, and now when I do service foo stop (I fixed start by adding --background) it doesn't return me to the command line (its running in the foreground?) How do I avoid that?
[03:49] <derrrrp> Beldar: i've read you should always check at least after 30 boots or 1000 hours (a year)?
[03:49] <Geo> nor does the service stop
[03:50] <derrrrp> Beldar: i haven't fsck'd this box... ever lol
[03:50] <Beldar> derrrrp, that is old stuff, it was removed from ubuntu years ago.
[03:50] <derrrrp> Beldar: fsck was? .__.?
[03:50] <derrrrp> daftykins: there was a powerouttage and i am a bit ocd...
[03:50] <Beldar> derrrrp, the every 30 boots
[03:51] <derrrrp> Beldar: 'o'
[03:57] <fantasma> hola
[03:57] <OERIAS> Hola Fantasma. Como estais?
[03:58] <fantasma> bueno estoy probando el chat de ubuntu
[03:59] <fantasma> que recomendaciones me tienes en este chat
[03:59] <OERIAS> Sois de Mexico? Iberoamerica?
[03:59] <OERIAS> Este es un buen sala de chat, pero la mayoria hablan en Ingles.
[03:59] <fantasma> si soy de mexico y tu
[04:00] <daftykins> !mx
[04:01] <daftykins> hm
[04:01] <rww> !es
[04:02] <OERIAS> Soy de España
[04:02] <fantasma> ok gracias pero no nesesito ayuda por el momento solo quiero probar el chat gracias jajajajaja
[04:04] <fantasma> no q chidon de la madre patria segun esto
[04:05] <rww> fantasma: Please speak only English here. For chat and help in Spanish, see #ubuntu-es.
[04:06] <rww> (for non-support chat in English, see #ubuntu-offtopic)
[04:06] <awesomess3> cups-browsed and cups-daemon need to be destroyed before hitting Ubuntu by default. After upgrading some packages it makes it impossible to stop them and uninstall them, so annoying.
[04:06] <awesomess3> a port open is a port exploit just waiting to happen, and cups-browsed and cups-daemon open up.
[04:07] <awesomess3> 'tis not good
[04:07] <copernicus> Agreed.
[04:07] <awesomess3> you see someone agrees with me that means I'm right
[04:07] <daftykins> this isn't the place to raise disagreeances
[04:08] <daftykins> nobody here is an employee that goes into the office Monday morning and says "hey guys look what was said on IRC this weekend"
[04:08]  * copernicus apologizes, does a backflip and claps his hands
[04:08] <daftykins> feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[04:08] <copernicus> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsuperuser.com%2Fquestions%2F82488%2Fwhy-is-it-bad-to-have-open-ports&ei=FnvUU5SDOZa3yASviIHYCA&usg=AFQjCNHvtCuGr4x-ZpEiCf7Ups_pM3uD_g&bvm=bv.71778758,d.aWw
[04:09] <awesomess3> where do I send this very valuable information to help future releases of Ubuntu? :(
[04:09] <daftykins> not a clue
[04:09] <kostkon> awesomess3, to apple that's the owner/maintainer of cups
[04:10]  * awesomess3 sighs
[04:10] <copernicus> Sorry if I was being a bother daftykins
[04:10] <copernicus> I was just chiming in
[04:10] <kostkon> awesomess3, and cups is also used in mac os obviously
[04:12] <copernicus> anti-virus or virus scanner for linux?
[04:12] <copernicus> oddly enough this question is from my girlfriend
[04:13] <rww> ubottu: virus
[04:13] <OERIAS> Macs don't get virus.
[04:14] <copernicus> Brilliant. Thanks. I had to prove that point to her, and a bot did it for me.
[04:14] <daftykins> OERIAS: again, not relevant to here.
[04:15] <OERIAS> I'm sorry, was joking here again. In seriousness, I recommend a firewall
[04:16] <OERIAS> Especially if the computer will be networked with Windows based PCs.
[04:16] <rww> ubottu: ufw
[04:16] <copernicus> Brilliant!
[04:18] <WalleWalle2002> test
[04:18] <daftykins> hi
[04:18] <WalleWalle2002> Just doing a /whois
[04:19] <WalleWalle2002> Hmm
[04:19] <WalleWalle2002> How do you do a /whois
[04:19] <daftykins> in your status window, "/whois user"
[04:19] <WalleWalle2002> Status window?
[04:19] <daftykins> however, this is not the place to ask
[04:19] <WalleWalle2002> (Sorry, first IRC ever)
[04:20] <WalleWalle2002> AH
[04:20] <WalleWalle2002> So
[04:20] <daftykins> join #freenode for more help, by typing "/join #freenode"
[04:20] <WalleWalle2002> Where should i go to ask
[04:20] <WalleWalle2002> Ah
[04:20] <WalleWalle2002> Thank you
[04:20] <awesomess3> I'm a bug reporting pro, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1349051
[04:21] <WalleWalle2002> Ah.
[04:21] <daftykins> awesomess3: are you sure it's not because it's actually "sudo service cupsd stop" ?
[04:21] <WalleWalle2002> Can anyone chat me my host?
[04:22] <awesomess3> daftykins, I'm 95% sure that's the same thing
[04:22] <daftykins> awesomess3: fair enough, not seen it done without service
[04:22] <daftykins> WalleWalle2002: that question doesn't make sense, can you rephrase?
[04:22] <WalleWalle2002> How do you pm, again?
[04:23] <SchrodingersScat> !pm | WalleWalle2002
[04:23] <crumpe> type /msg nick message
[04:23] <WalleWalle2002> Thank you.
[04:23] <WalleWalle2002> !pm | daftykins Um
[04:24] <daftykins> monkey see, monkey do
[04:26] <edition> what is the easiest TeX editor?
[04:26] <crumpe> nanbo
[04:26] <crumpe> nano
[04:28] <eeee> WalleWalle2002: i think you want your ip address?
[04:28] <eeee> that's your host: c-50-132-126-234.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
[04:28] <cjhanks> edition, Kile?
[04:28] <edition> ok
[04:29] <crumpe> edition, in a terminal nano is the easiest
[04:30] <edition> something better than nano.
[04:30] <awesomess3> crumpe, nano does tex????
[04:30] <edition> and supports the Myriad font.
[04:30] <crumpe> edition, do you mean the easiest to edit a file or do you want emacs type support?
[04:31] <edition> i want a visual Tex editor, and support for other fonts.
[04:31] <crumpe> which desktop?
[04:32] <crumpe> gedit or kwrite
[04:32] <cjhanks> For latex?
[04:32]  * awesomess3 sighs.  crumpe, not regular text, TeX is something special.
[04:32] <crumpe> oh you mean like LaTex?
[04:32] <awesomess3> yes
[04:33] <crumpe> no idea
[04:34] <crumpe> for an IDE
[04:35] <Nickd55345353> hello
[04:35] <crumpe> hello
[04:35] <Nickd55345353> how can i connect to the arch linux server ?
[04:35] <cjhanks> With your keyboard.
[04:36] <Nickd55345353> lol
[04:36] <crumpe> Nickd55345353, you ask this in #ubuntu?
[04:36] <Nickd55345353> yes
[04:36] <awesomess3> I'd go through each one suggested here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1235043/what-latex-editor-do-you-suggest-for-linux edition. : texmaker, gummi (http://gummi.midnightcoding.org/), Kile, Lyx, http://vim-latex.sourceforge.net/, http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/
[04:36] <Nickd55345353> my friend is on arch
[04:36] <daftykins> Nickd55345353: connect to do what?
[04:36] <Nickd55345353> i need to talk to him
[04:36] <Nickd55345353> my cell has no signal
[04:36] <edition> ill use TexMaker
[04:37] <crumpe> Nickd55345353, for the challenge I will try to help you. What is the environment?
[04:37] <awesomess3> edition, good luck getting your hands dirty with tex on ubuntu!
[04:37] <edition> thanks
[04:37] <Nickd55345353> environment?
[04:37] <edition> is it good for school reports?
[04:38] <cjhanks> edition, Not at first.  Latex is kind of a pita until you're used to it.
[04:38] <crumpe> Nickd55345353, describe your hardware network and desire
[04:39] <Nickd55345353> i have an adsl2 connection 2mbps hauwei hg530 model
[04:39] <crumpe> ok you are dsl
[04:39] <edition> how can i change the xubuntu bootup screen?
[04:39] <crumpe> and your friend?
[04:39] <Nickd55345353> he uses adsl too
[04:40] <Nickd55345353> i am wireless
[04:40] <crumpe> what is his IP?
[04:40] <Nickd55345353> i dont know
[04:40] <cjhanks> You're doomed.
[04:40] <crumpe> ask him
[04:41] <Nickd55345353> i have no signal
[04:41] <Nickd55345353> he is in another country
[04:41] <crumpe> magic oh tcp/ip
[04:41] <Nickd55345353> i just wanted to join in the arch linux servers from the irc client
[04:41] <crumpe> oh
[04:41] <crumpe> type /j #archlinux
[04:41] <Nickd55345353> thank you
[04:42] <Nickd55345353> i just didnt described plainly
[04:42] <crumpe> no sweat
[04:42] <Nickd55345353> :)
[04:44] <odds> Good evening.
[04:45] <GLaDER> Installed - and after that uninstalled - Cairo Dock. I also did an "autoremove" which messed up something. My DE is not working as supposed to. The issue's I've encountered are the following: My 3-monitor setup stopped working. [I "fixed" this by redoing everything in Nvidia-settings.] Whenever I do not focus on an application it goes black and I have to resize the window in order for it to re-appear. [Still
[04:45] <GLaDER> not solved.] My mouse cursor turned larger. [Still not solved.]
[04:45] <edition> why is the LyX editor 716mb?
[04:45] <GLaDER> I've reinstalled Cinnamon, but the problem appears in Unity as well so it ought not to be a DE-problem.
[04:47] <crumpe> was there a question?
[04:47] <daftykins> GLaDER: is this Mint?
[04:47] <GLaDER> daftykins: No, it's Ubuntu running Cinnamon on top.
[04:47] <john2x> can I disable ssh access to a server over the internet? i.e. I only want to be able to ssh over LAN.
[04:48] <daftykins> john2x: it won't be available over the internet unless the port is forwarded on your router
[04:48] <odds> I come seeking assistance with GRUB. I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS installed on one SSD and Windows 8 installed on another. Windows was installed first. When i installed Ubuntu, i chose to encrypt the disk in which it was being installed. This seems to have locked my Windows partition as well, however, and disables me from booting into Win. Now, i mistakenly tried repairing my MBR on the Windows SSD using Boot Repair. That made it so i can't even not
[04:48] <daftykins> john2x: assuming you have a NAT router providing the internet connection
[04:48] <RainMan28> I'm trying to setup a DNS server on my ubuntu box using bind9 and have got it working, but am having an issue with the very last step. I'm unable to type in 'ping router' or similar on my windows clients and have it work. I have to do 'ping router.home.local'. Can anyone help please?
[04:48] <Anurizm> I have a late 2009 Macbook. Is it possible to install Ubuntu as the sole OS and use it natively
[04:48] <Anurizm> without compatibility issues
[04:48] <Anurizm> ?
[04:48] <awesomess3> edition, sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install lyx
[04:48] <odds> Excuse my poor capitalization please, as I am using a mobile device. 😃
[04:49] <john2x> daftykins: ah ok. so it's the other way around? I need to set it up to allow internet access?
[04:49] <daftykins> john2x: correct
[04:49] <GLaDER> Anurizm: No. I have the same computer (I think, a 6.1) and I experienced that the computer was to slow and also I had some issues with the track pad.
[04:49] <john2x> daftykins: got it. thanks
[04:49] <GLaDER> Anurizm: As far as I remember, one had to install a version < 10.X
[04:50] <daftykins> RainMan28: sounds like you need to add a dns-search entry to your config to always try ".home.local" addresses, i think that's right - i can't explain it any clearer than that though sadly
[04:50] <crumpe> john2x, are you using a firewall?
[04:50] <RainMan28> daftykins: on the ubuntu side or on the windows side? thank you
[04:51] <Anurizm> GLaDER It's not like the hardware isn't good enough; a comparable PC with the same hardware would run Ubuntu just fine
[04:51] <daftykins> RainMan28: any client of your server i should think
[04:51] <RainMan28> ok, thanks
[04:51] <Anurizm> What is it about the Macbook that makes Ubuntu so difficult to run properly?
[04:51] <daftykins> Anurizm: beyond not being intended to run anything beyond OS X you mean?
[04:51] <crumpe> Anurizm, drivers
[04:51] <Anurizm> That's disappointing
[04:51] <john2x> crumpe: no firewall yet.. it's newly setup, just playing around with an old pc.. do I need a firewall even if internet access isn't setup?
[04:52] <meganerd> Anurizm: Apple being dicks is the short short version
[04:52] <odds> Anyone able to help with my boot issues?
[04:52] <meganerd> WACOMalt: you still here?
[04:52] <Jeffrey_f> Anurizm: It's called LOCK IN!  It's how Apple tries to keep money flowing into their coffers.
[04:52] <crumpe> john2x, no not really
[04:52] <Divega> When dealing with Samba Shares what should the unix permissions be on my directories?
[04:52] <Anurizm> I noticed Ubuntu has a "64 bit Mac" version.  Has anyone else had problems with amd drivers in 14.04. For some reason gpumanager keeps overwriting my xorg.conf file at boot unless I add nogpumanager in grub.cfg
[04:53] <meganerd> Anurizm: maybe worth a shot.  I have not tried it since I have been Apple free for 7 years now.
[04:53] <Anurizm> also, everyone says "ubuntu is great for developers". just curious, what can a dev do on Ubuntu that he/she couldn't do on a Mac?
[04:54] <Jeffrey_f> Anurizm: But MAC is a Linux kernel no less........
[04:54] <edition> developing on Ubuntu is not easy from a Windows perspective...
[04:54] <meganerd> Anurizm: that is the wrong question, you can use plan9 and do just about everything that you can on a MAc
[04:54] <OERIAS> Jeffrey_f,  Mac OS X is not Linux
[04:54] <Anurizm> Why use Ubuntu in the first place if
[04:54] <odds> Awesomess3: can't boot into either Windows or Ubuntu,
[04:54] <cjhanks> Anurizm, the kernel ABI is obviously different.
[04:54] <meganerd> edition: sure it is, notepad++ plus access to a windows build server
[04:55] <OERIAS> It is based on BSD/Mach underpinnings.
[04:55] <stainedhat> then if I start compiz the ui crashes. If I boot without nogpumanager amdccle does not see one of my graphics cards. Its really weird
[04:55] <crumpe> john2x, what's the IP?
[04:55] <meganerd> Anurizm: I use Linux because I can get it to do what I want.  Mac and Windows are constantly getting in my way.
[04:55] <Jeffrey_f> OERIAS:  XNU kernel, which is a mix of the mach microkernel and the BSD monolithic kernel.  At least it was.  The file system bears a very similar structure to Linux
[04:56] <meganerd> Anurizm: you may not care or have the same problems.  So maybe Linux is not for you, only you know the answer to that.
[04:56] <odds> awesomess3, my Ubuntu drive is encrypted. I know the passphrase, i just need to learn how to mount it from within a Live CD environment.
[04:56] <meganerd> Anurizm: for me, it is the platform I reach for first when I need to get real work done.
[04:56] <Anurizm> But why? Can't OS X do everything?
[04:56] <meganerd> Anurizm: no
[04:57] <meganerd> Anurizm: I am a sysadmin working on a dev team.  OS X would be next to useless to me (Windows dev team)
[04:57] <GLaDER> How do I know which version av X i'm running? I figured I'd re-install it to see if I had some luck.
[04:57] <crumpe> john2x, if you enable ssh you have to use a firewall to drop all packets outside the lan address unless you have a router
[04:57] <odds> Meganerd: what kind of work?
[04:58] <GLaDER> When doing "apt-get install xserver" I was prompted to specify.
[04:58] <awesomess3> odds, on the desktop is there no devices that you can right-click and "mount" in your Live CD environment?
[04:58] <meganerd> Anurizm: I rely on libvirt, git, browsers, ssh, ddrescue, tcpdump and occasionally wireshark, aiccu (ipv6 tunnels), iptables, and support for a host of languages and tools
[04:58] <crumpe> john2x, is a vlan an option?
[04:58] <Anurizm> I'm not trying to challenge you but I'm just curious. I honestly want to know what Ubuntu has that Mac doesn't
[04:59] <meganerd> Anurizm: in short most of what I want *could* be done on OSX, but it would be a pain to get installed and kept up to date.
[04:59] <stainedhat> meganerd: that's funny we have sysadmins who run macs and devs who runs macs in a mostly windows environment. No problems at all. I prefer linux myself but you can get the job done with any tools if you know how to use them right
[04:59] <odds> awesomess3, unfortunately not. Venturing a few steps in the install process shows my sdb but it days unknown for partition type prolly because it's encrypted.
[04:59] <crumpe> Anurizm, the ability to migrate hardware on a dime
[04:59] <meganerd> Anurizm: I can turn my laptop into a server and a router in about 5 minutes, good luck with that on OS X or Windows
[05:00] <john2x> crumpe: yes, I have a router (it's a router/modem). Hmm I'd rather not mess around with vlan..
[05:00] <meganerd> stainedhat: I did not say that you could not get the job done, I have better tools available to me on Linux that make me enjoy working a lot more
[05:00] <crumpe> I would use OSX If I didn't need a certain hardware
[05:00] <Anurizm> So far, the only advantage I know is the ability to seamlessly run a server
[05:01] <Anurizm> No doubt that Linux is the best for servers
[05:01] <Anurizm> but besides that?
[05:01] <Anurizm> I guess what you're trying to say is that developer tools are much more native on Linux?
[05:01] <meganerd> Anurizm: debugging, troubleshooting, there is really so much going on when you have a platform made by developers *for* developers
[05:02] <crumpe> meganerd, and Sys Admin
[05:02] <meganerd> Anurizm: tough to give you a soundbite, basically in 20 years, Linux is the platform I now reach for first when I need to get something done.  Even my hobby of high end audio.
[05:02] <stainedhat> meganerd: I agree with you, i'd rather be sitting at a bash terminal and write my tools in python but I think people adapt to what they use. One of our syseng guys is mac only and he's pretty much a powerhouse.
[05:03] <Anurizm> I'm seriously considering selling my Macbook and getting a PC just so I can run Linux. I'm tired of OS X
[05:03] <meganerd> stainedhat: maybe, I have not been terribly impressed with the last guy who claimed to be a devops but could not figure out git on his MacBook air.
[05:03] <meganerd> stainedhat: the platform does not make the man
[05:03] <meganerd> stainedhat: so I agree with you
[05:03] <stainedhat> Meganerd: couldn't agree more there
[05:04] <crumpe> stackofcats, he uses mac as his workstation which i agree mac is a great workstation
[05:04] <meganerd> crumpe: not for me it isn't
[05:04] <Jeffrey_f> Anurizm: Google Bootcamp and Ubuntu
[05:04] <meganerd> crumpe: I usually recommend that people use what they know, and more importantly what those around them know
[05:04] <Anurizm> you guys use Android right? I doubt anyone here uses iOS :p
[05:05] <meganerd> Anurizm: begrudginly android
[05:05] <john2x> Anurizm: why are you tired of OS X? I think Linux is more "tiring" (wifi setup, printer setup, trackpad, video cards)
[05:05] <crumpe> megabit|away, they must be windows admin
[05:06] <meganerd> john2x: on the right hardware it is fine.  I am sitting in front of an Intel NUC that worked out of the box. The same with my Lenovo laptop.
[05:06] <Jeffrey_f> One can ALWAYS run a Windows in VirtualBox
[05:06] <meganerd> Jeffrey_f: you mean a KVM VM :)
[05:06] <stainedhat> personally I'm lost on a mac. I can do anything and everything I need on linux and can utilize powershell enough to do anything I need to in a windows environment but on a mac i'd be lucky to get a nic configured haha
[05:06] <Anurizm> well I'm learning how to code and networking stuff. I heard linux is a good choice
[05:06] <cjhanks> Linux is great.  Some times you can go months without working sound and periodically things which worked for years just stop.
[05:06] <daftykins> it's lovely to see you all contributing to conversation, unfortunately this channel is for support questions regarding ubuntu only... so if you could all take the conversation over to #ubuntu-offtopic you may continue it freely.
[05:06] <daftykins> !topic
[05:06] <awesomess3> Anurizm, you could do what I did and pickup the cheapest dell laptop at wal-mart and keep the windows on the hard drive and run an Ubuntu Live USB. I'm happy :>
[05:07] <Jeffrey_f> meganerd: no, right in Linux.....
[05:07] <stainedhat> anurizm: on android right now :)
[05:07] <crumpe> daftykins, copy that
[05:07] <meganerd> going to bed anyway, before I anger the OT gods
[05:07] <GLaDER> Is there a way to re-install Ubuntu that does not interfer with your current setup of Grub?
[05:08] <reversiblean> Why I can't purge this ppa?
[05:08] <reversiblean> sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing
[05:08] <reversiblean> Updating packages lists
[05:08] <reversiblean> PPA to be removed: ubuntu-audio-dev pulse-testing
[05:08] <reversiblean> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: ubuntu-audio-dev pulse-testing
[05:08] <john2x> if an ultrabook with similar specs + price to the Macbook Air and with no hardware compatibility issues comes out, I'd switch in a heartbeat.
[05:08] <daftykins> try without the /pulse-testing
[05:08] <crumpe> go ahead daftykins
[05:08] <daftykins> john2x: enough now thanks
[05:09] <reversiblean> daftykins: ok
[05:09] <daftykins> crumpe: what with?
[05:09] <john2x> oops sorry got carried away
[05:09] <crumpe> the question about re installing ubuntu without overwriting the mbr
[05:10] <GLaDER> crumpe: Yes
[05:10] <meganerd> john2x: https://system76.com/
[05:10] <Beldar> GLaDER, Yes but can you share why, you want to be able to boot the install the old grub may not do that.
[05:10] <daftykins> crumpe: i respond to questions as i choose, thanks.
[05:10] <flux242> hi, after recent update my laptop doesn't suspend when lid is closed. Damn it, they've fixed xfce4-power-manager
[05:11] <GLaDER> Beldar: As said earlier I've messed up something - badly - and since I'm dual booting I thought I wouldn't want to mess w/ Grub.
[05:11] <flux242> sorry wrong channel
[05:11] <GLaDER> Beldar: But maybe that's not a problem anyawy.
[05:11] <stainedhat> Crumpe: what about an advanced install and just selecting the one partition you want to install at? Or do you not want grub to reread the sytem and create a new grub.cfg file?
[05:11] <reversiblean> PPA to be removed: ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev
[05:12] <reversiblean> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev
[05:12] <reversiblean> ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev
[05:12] <Beldar> GLaDER, grub is in the install and the mbr or a efi partition, so the new install's grub will differ.
[05:12] <crumpe> GLaDER, are you sure you just don't need to rediscover your partitions?
[05:12] <stainedhat> Oh sorry that last msg was for glader
[05:12] <reversiblean> daftykins: same error when running sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev
[05:13] <GLaDER> Beldar: Okay. I just have to redo it all. I uninstalled Cairo-Dock and did an autoremove which caused my (I think) xserver to brake. I don't know how to fix it so I figure I just have to reinstall.
[05:13] <daftykins> reversiblean: ok, i don't know it well enough to be 100% sure on notation - nor do i know the one you mention, so i'd look it up i guess. not sure if the !ppa-purge bot trigger in here would provide some help, possibly...
[05:13] <daftykins> !ppa-purge
[05:14] <daftykins> hmm, did seem right - maybe something's just a little wrong
[05:14] <Beldar> GLaDER, Have you gone to the login window and tried whatever other desktops you have installed?
[05:14] <crumpe> GLaDER, do you still have network connection in console?
[05:14] <GLaDER> Beldar: Yup. Cinnamon, nor Unity, works.
[05:15] <GLaDER> crumpe: Yes. It's only the DE that's messed upo.
[05:15] <Beldar> GLaDER, What ubuntu release is this?
[05:15] <GLaDER> Beldar: 14.04 (the latest)
[05:15] <crumpe> GLaDER, cool Beldar can fix this for you
[05:15] <stainedhat> Anyway, so I looked through the changelog for 14.04.1 and there is no fix for the gpumanager issues. Anyone havr a workaround besides commenting out the start on line from gpumanagers init script or using nogpumanager at boot?
[05:16] <reversiblean> draftykins, ubottu: $sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing for https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/pulse-testing ??
[05:16] <Beldar> crumpe, Not sure I can removing cairo would not cause this.
[05:16] <Beldar> something else is amiss
[05:16] <crumpe> Beldar, just need to look at the x log
[05:16] <reversiblean> that command does not work.
[05:17] <jeffreylevesque> I am trying to install 'ffmpeg' it says "Package ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:17] <jeffreylevesque> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:17] <jeffreylevesque> is only available from another source"
[05:17] <jeffreylevesque> dang
[05:17] <daftykins> ffmpeg got replaced by um, avconv?
[05:17] <Beldar> !ffmpeg
[05:18] <GLaDER> Beldar: I did uninstall Cairo Dock, and I did an autoremove. Everything worked fine 'til I restarted the computer. This caused two out of three screens to go black, my cursor to act weird and applications not in focus to black out.
[05:18] <SchrodingersScat> !avconv
[05:18] <jeffreylevesque> daftykins: do I have to change my bash script to conform to avconv syntax?
[05:18] <Beldar> GLaDER, neither should cause what you describe.
[05:19] <crumpe> GLaDER, are those screens physical?
[05:19] <jeffreylevesque> daftykins: what if i use a ppa - http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-ffmpeg-2-2-0-on-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-13-10-ubuntu-12-10-linux-mint-16-and-linux-mint-14/?
[05:19] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque: PPAs are bad
[05:19] <jeffreylevesque> is using a PPA bad practice?
[05:19] <daftykins> yep
[05:19] <jeffreylevesque> why?
[05:19] <daftykins> !ppa
[05:19] <daftykins> ^
[05:20] <GLaDER> Beldar: This is getting weired and weirder :(
[05:20] <GLaDER> crumpe: They are idd.
[05:20] <jeffreylevesque> daftykins: why did ubuntu consider ffmpeg obsolete?
[05:20] <crumpe> GLaDER, idd?
[05:20] <GLaDER> crumpe: Indeed
[05:21] <crumpe> GLaDER, that explains it
[05:21] <crumpe> Beldar, can help you resolve this
[05:21] <GLaDER> Beldar: Just discoverd something else. On the screen that holds the menubar, things seems more stable. I opened Chromium on it and it appears normal but when I drag it to another screen it goes black.
[05:21] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque: i'm no Canonical historian nor employee so i have no information on that
[05:21] <Beldar> GLaDER, unity?
[05:22] <GLaDER> Beldar: Cinnamon
[05:22] <deimos> jeffreylevesque: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/223855
[05:22] <GLaDER> Beldar: I can switch though, but it doesn't seem to help.
[05:22] <Beldar> GLaDER, That us a ppa and not supported.
[05:22] <Beldar> is*
[05:23] <Beldar> GLaDER, cinnamon is not in the 14.04 ubuntu repos.
[05:23] <cjhanks> Does anybody use Ubuntu without the `universe`? And is universe actually LTS?
[05:23] <GLaDER> Beldar: Okay. It's been working fine since I got it thought. Still, I switched to Unity now but there are still issues.
[05:24] <Beldar> GLaDER, and the issues in unity are?
[05:24] <zubir> Beldar: it sucks
[05:25] <stainedhat> Ok well I'm off to troubleshoot some amd/gpumanager issues. Later #ubuntu
[05:25] <Beldar> zubir, real helpful.
[05:26] <Beldar> zubir, there are about 50 de choices, I don'y use unity myself this is just support.
[05:26] <GLaDER> Beldar: I tried opening Chromium. The application goes black and freezes. This is the same for all applications that I use on any other screen except the one considered :0
[05:26] <zubir> Beldar: no problemo
[05:27] <GLaDER> Beldar: Though, "terminal" seems to work just fine on either monitor.
[05:27] <crumpe> GLaDER, start pastebin ing the log files
[05:27] <Beldar> GLaDER, try this sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <jeffreylevesque> daftykins: I usually find ubuntu to be slow or poor with their packages
[05:28] <jeffreylevesque> sometimes they are really old
[05:28] <Beldar> might just need a reset
[05:28] <n0lan> Have you tried to "sudo apt-get update" in terminal?
[05:28] <n0lan> it'll download new repositories
[05:28] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque: you could join the packaging team
[05:28] <jeffreylevesque> deimos: thank you.  I recorded your link on my issue - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/355
[05:28] <GLaDER> Beldar: Done.
[05:29] <GLaDER> Beldar: I guess I should restart X?
[05:29] <dominik> Hello i want to ask how to tell my computer to not to suspend while downloading some stuff in browser or torren one, and while watching films in players like vlc and youtube, or others players  in browser?
[05:29] <edition> compiling libdvdcss didn't work.
[05:29] <stainedhat> Dominik: power option from system settings should have what you need
[05:29] <crumpe> the problem seems to be the config. GLaDER did you re-install docker?
[05:30] <dominik> not/ there is only options for suspending after xxx while acc and batery
[05:30] <eeee> dominik: i think you want the screen not to turn off & lock, right?
[05:31] <GLaDER> crumpe: That's a negative.
[05:31] <eeee> dominik: settings > brightness & lock
[05:31] <dominik> ill try:)
[05:31] <crumpe> GLaDER, that was the last change you made before it broke?
[05:32] <Beldar> GLaDER, Did anything reinstall?
[05:32] <dominik> yeah but i want to do that only in some particular events
[05:32] <dominik> is it possible?
[05:33] <GLaDER> crumpe: I thougt it was doing the "autoremove" thing.
[05:33] <GLaDER> Beldar: Yes, but where do I find the log so I can see what it was. I rebooted X afterwards.
[05:34] <jakesyl> hey guys when i was setting up my ubuntu server it gave me an option to install some kind of dns server, do you guys have any idea what it was?
[05:34] <dominik> do it is possible? to set some exeptions ?
[05:34] <Beldar> GLaDER, Not sure there it said what is was in the terminal. Is unity working now?
[05:35] <crumpe> jakesyl, you don't need it
[05:35] <GLaDER> Beldar: No, I have the same issue with for instance Chromium.
[05:35] <jakesyl> crumpe, i just need to know the name of it, and yes i do i'm setting up a web server
[05:35] <Beldar> GLaDER, The screen issue?
[05:36] <jakesyl> it's an option for intsall
[05:36] <jeffreylevesque> time to shut down this awesome ubuntu server 14.04
[05:36] <crumpe> jakesyl, you don't need it use your modems dns servers
[05:36] <jeffreylevesque> good night gentlemen
[05:36] <GLaDER> Beldar: Any application runing on any other screen except :0 will go black and unresponsive.
[05:37] <jakesyl> crumpe, do you know the name or not, i'm just doing some experimentation, i think it was opendns?
[05:37] <GLaDER> This is the install log for ubuntu-desktop I just ran. http://pastebin.com/DiDL2TTi
[05:37] <jakesyl> you know what i'll just start a virtual machine and find out
[05:37] <stainedhat> Glader what kind if graphics card(s) do you have?
[05:37] <Beldar> GLaDER, Are you running proprietary graphic drivers straight from the cards manufacturer? We had a kernel upgrade in the last day or so, these will not follow a upgrade.
[05:37] <GLaDER> stainedhat: 2xGTX 580
[05:38] <crumpe> jakesyl, not sure about ubuntu but other distro have a log of packages you can search
[05:38] <stainedhat> Did you note which packages were autoremoved?
[05:39] <Beldar> stainedhat, autoremove does not remove installed packages
[05:39] <GLaDER> stainedhat: No :(
[05:39] <jakesyl> bind9 thanks anyway!
[05:39] <GLaDER> Beldar: It did remove Wine for me.
 GLaDER, Are you running proprietary graphic drivers straight from the cards manufacturer? We had a kernel upgrade in the last day or so, these will not follow a upgrade.
[05:39] <eeee> dominik: i don't think there's a feature, maybe some program does it already? if you get the command for the terminal to turn it off, you could write a little cronjob that checks if vlc is running and sets it off before it shuts the screen off..
[05:39] <GLaDER> Beldar: I'm using 304.123 from Nvidia 304 (Open Source).
[05:40] <crumpe> GLaDER, did you install another package that replaces cairo-dock?
[05:40] <GLaDER> crumpe: Nope.
[05:40] <Beldar> GLaDER, I would reboot and try an early kernel as a test.
[05:40] <GLaDER> Beldar: How do I do that?
[05:40] <dominik> tkats sound complicated;/ i wanted to make it same as windowsfeature
[05:41] <stainedhat> Glader advanced options at the grub menu should give you options to boot previous kernals I think
[05:41] <Beldar> GLaDER, In the grub menu taping the shift at the reboot or power on to get it to show if it does not automatically.
[05:41] <stainedhat> *kernels
[05:41] <crumpe> GLaDER, I'd like to look at the logs
[05:41] <GLaDER> Beldar: Okay. I need to fetch some laundry and a laptop, I'll check asap.
[05:42] <GLaDER> crumpe: Just let me know what you want to see. I'll be back in 5.
[05:42] <Beldar> GLaDER, Anyway we have to many hands in the help here, I have to take off for a few, hope you get it resolved.
[05:42] <marcos__> hola
[05:42] <marcos__> hola
[05:43] <crumpe> does ubuntu have syscong yet?
[05:43] <crumpe> sysconfig
[05:43] <marcos__> que ases
[05:43] <marcos__> sysconfig
[05:43] <varunendra> dominik, VLC already prevents suspend or even dimming of display while it is playing. Does it not do that for you?
[05:43] <crumpe> hello marcos__
[05:46] <GLaDER> Beldar: Okay. Hopefully it'll be solved by the time you get back.
[05:48] <WalleWalle2002> Testing color codes
[05:50] <d1str0> hey guys, do you know how I can get apt-get to automatically choose apache's newer config file over my current one?
[05:50] <Symmetria> hrm, did something get released ubuntu wise last night?
[05:50] <d1str0> I'm trying to do it all inside a vagrant-init.sh file
[05:51] <crumpe> delete your current one
[05:51] <d1str0> hmmm. good idea
[05:57] <kostkon> Symmetria, 14.04.1?
[05:57] <Symmetria> kostkon aahhh that is finally out, lol, that explains the massive increase in hit count on my mirror
[05:58] <kostkon> Symmetria, :)
[05:58] <Symmetria> http://logs.mirror.liquidtelecom.com/ <[05:58] <dominik> hello u said that vlc prevents from suspending and shuting down laptop. Do u know how to make other programs act same>
[05:59] <varunendra> !who | dominik
[05:59] <varunendra> dominik, like which programs?
[06:00] <dominik> !tab varunendra like web browser while playing videos or downloading stuff
[06:01] <Divega> I can't seem to comprehend / figure out what my directory permissions should be if I want to have it as a samba share but also allow sickbeard/cp/sab to access it. Can anyone help me out with that?
[06:01] <jakesyl> hey guys if i want my ubuntu server to be a web server how do i assign it a domain name
[06:02] <dominik> how to write directly to someone here?:) i see for example varunendra writting red. Can u tell me?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !tab | dominik
[06:03] <varunendra> dominik, not sure about web browsers, but which Desktop Environment are you using?
[06:04] <dominik> i am using unity:)
[06:05] <jakesyl> i'm trying to make my ubuntu computer into an ssh server, but when people ssh i want it to be<EMAIL_ADDRESS>how do i set that up?
[06:06] <jakesyl> any ideas?
[06:07] <kemen> test
[06:07] <WalleWalle2002> jake
[06:07] <WalleWalle2002> I can help ya
[06:07] <WalleWalle2002> What's the prob
[06:08] <jakesyl> wallewalle2002 i first need to know how to assign my computer a domain name
[06:08] <jakesyl> that's just used for ssh
[06:08] <WalleWalle2002> ah.
[06:08] <WalleWalle2002> Like
[06:08] <varunendra> dominik, unfortunately, I don't have an answer for that at the moment. I believe there must be ways, but I doubt if they would be as easy as finding a ready-made option somewhere and set it to enable or disable.
[06:08] <WalleWalle2002> You want
[06:08] <WalleWalle2002> instead of 20.3049.40394.whatever
[06:08] <WalleWalle2002> something like
[06:09] <WalleWalle2002> lol.com
[06:09] <WalleWalle2002> hold on
[06:09] <WalleWalle2002> let's move to a PM
[06:09] <jakesyl> k
[06:13] <Guest52019> has anyone got any ideas on why my lightdm login screen seems to have a grey background for the login box itself? this happened after a 12.04.4 -> 14.04.1 upgrade. Picture here http://www.barnabas.dk/media/login.png
[06:13] <Guest52019> ignore the fact its in a window
[06:18] <xpand> why can't i join #php
[06:19] <utilizador> 1234567
[06:19] <eeee> xpand: probably because you need to register your nickname
[06:24] <Etale> Hi all! I'm running a new install of Ubuntu 12.04. wlan0 isn't showing up. I connected it via a wired connection, which it recognizes, in order to do "apt-get upgrade". But it won't connect!
[06:24] <sgen_> hello, Im testing out ajax queries and Im getting the error "Uncaught TypeError: undefined is not a function main.js:22 showRequest main.js:22 (anonymous function) main.js:9 n.event.dispatch jquery.js:3 r.handle". Heres the js file: http://pastie.org/9424081 what am i doing wrong?
[06:25] <eeee> Etale: did you get the ip addresses?
[06:26] <Etale> Hi eeee . I can type "ip addr" in another laptop. I'm not sure what you meant before about adjusting various things on the edit connections...
[06:27] <Etale> Should I be tampering with the "device mac address" and "cloned mac address"?
[06:27] <eeee> no
[06:28] <BarnabasDK> Etale, is your network manager running? $> sudo service network-manager status
[06:28] <Etale> Yes.
[06:28] <eeee> Etale: you want to change the IPv4 settings, change automatic to manual
[06:29] <Etale> Okay.
[06:29] <eeee> and select an ip address other than the one on the other machine, same gateway and dns and subnet
[06:29] <Nickd55345353> hello,is there any way to reduce the size of a file?ty
[06:30] <eeee> Nickd55345353: like compress it?
[06:30] <Nickd55345353> well
[06:30] <Nickd55345353> i have mp3 but they are big in size
[06:30] <Etale> eeee, I don't know exactly what of the things in the output of "ip addr" are these things. (I ran "ip addr" in a different laptop on the same network. I assume that's what you meant.)
[06:30] <Nickd55345353> and i wanted to reduce their size
[06:31] <Etale> Can I just choose <IP_ADDRESS> as my dns?
[06:31] <Loshki> Nickd55345353: you can't compress mp3, it's already compressed up the wazoo, sorry...
[06:31] <Nickd55345353> ok thanks
[06:32] <eeee> Etale: yeah i think so
[06:33] <Etale> And what about the "address"? Should it be what appears after "inet" under "wlan0" when I type "ifconfig" in another computer on the same network? I'm really confused about this. In particular I'm confused because it's a wired connection, and the "inet" refers to "wlan0" in the other laptop.
[06:33] <Etale> And about what this gateway? Argh...
[06:33] <Etale> *what about
[06:34] <eeee> do you have a GUI in the other laptop?
[06:35] <Etale> eeee, sure... You mean wicd or nm-applet?
[06:35] <sgen_> hello, Im testing out ajax queries and Im getting the error "Uncaught TypeError: undefined is not a function main.js:22 showRequest main.js:22 (anonymous function) main.js:9 n.event.dispatch jquery.js:3 r.handle". Heres the js file: http://pastie.org/9424081 what am i doing wrong?
[06:35] <Etale> I'm currently using wicd, but I can switch...
[06:35] <eeee> Etale: click on the network icon, if it's network manager, and select connection information
[06:36] <Etale> I'm using wicd right now. There's an ip there. I don't see gateway or netmask...
[06:37] <eeee> type this nmcli dev list iface eth0 | grep IP4
[06:37] <PerfM> Oh man. I'm so sorry.
[06:37] <eeee> the ip after gw is the gateway
[06:38] <PerfM> I just finally wanted to apologize for causing such chaos in here, all those years. (2 years, ew).
[06:39] <Etale> Okay, eeee . I'll have to disconnect for a bit to try all of this.
[06:39] <Etale> Disconnecting now.
[06:39] <PerfM> and to any staff member reading this (most importantly elky) I'm so sorry for the things I said to you (like, "choke on my dick").  I have been blessed, and I am renewed.
[06:40] <PerfM> Thank you, Kanye.
[06:48] <uman> hi all :)
[06:52] <jakesyl> hey does anyone know how to get a static ip in ubuntu
[06:53] <dominik> hello i have burnibng problem. Deb conf stucked and i can not instal/uninstall stuff.
[06:53] <dominik> i wanted to uninstall gdebi
[06:53] <dominik> and debconf stuck whatever i want to do
[06:59] <helmut_> hi
[06:59] <uman> helmut_: hi
[07:02] <dominik> cansomeone interpetate bugsplat while installing?
[07:02] <Obiwantje> Guys - question the zlib 1.2.8 is still the fastest version to use? Is any of you aware of a patched/faster version?
[07:02] <dominik> http://pastebin.com/2u5y4KR7
[07:11] <xpand> any good mp3 player better than rhythmbox?
[07:12] <uman> hi all
[07:12] <napster> I'm trying to setup Android Studio on ubuntu 13.10, and I get a message that OpenJDK shows intermittent performance and they recomment using Oracle JRE/JDK. How can I replace openJDK with oracle JDK?
[07:13] <Beldar> napster, 13.10 is eol, you need to upgrade to 14.04
[07:13] <dominik> do can some interpretate mine bugsplat ? http://pastebin.com/2u5y4KR7
[07:13] <napster> hmm, I though it is supported at least an year.
[07:13] <rww> nope
[07:13] <napster> 14.04 is an LTS am I right?
[07:14] <dominik>  i see that this is java installer but earlier it failed and now in software center i wanted to install fie zilla, but i have debconf stucked and nothing more;/
[07:14] <rww> Also: Oracle JDK isn't officially supported, because its license doesn't allow redistribution by Ubuntu.
[07:14] <rww> which I guess applies to both of you
[07:14] <eric__> 14.04 = LTS; 14.04.1 != LTS ?
[07:15] <Beldar> xpand, there are a lot of options you might try some to find what you like.
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> !14.04
[07:16] <dominik> do can some interpretate mine bugsplat ? http://pastebin.com/2u5y4KR7
[07:16] <copernicus> hold on dominik, I'm looking
[07:16] <uman> dominik: I don't understand that sentence.
[07:17] <dominik> hmmm... sth make stuck debconf. i have grey windows and nothing happens.
[07:17] <edition> suspend doesn't work on my HP laptop in XUbuntu
[07:17] <copernicus> uman he has an error log that's confusing
[07:18] <dominik> i think thats because of : gdebi or previous failed install java 7 from ppa
[07:18] <uman> copernicus: I see.
[07:21] <dominik> i am not familiar with ubuntu i am new, but that was wrtiten in this bugsplat : thats new : http://pastebin.com/brjGv631
[07:22] <copernicus> dominik, have you retried the download?
[07:22] <dominik> i do not know why but i think that after previous failed install of java 8 from ppa , ubuntu try to download and install it in loop. Do someone can tell me how to end this madness?
[07:23] <cfhowlett> Upgrade question: can I upgrade 12.04 > 14.04 directly from the 14.04 .ISO or must I make a USB for a clean installation?
[07:23] <dominik> yeah many times, no amtter if i want do delete program in software center or install new, its stucing and showing that log
[07:26] <Beldar> cfhowlett, You can boot the iso with grub and see if it has that upgrade.
[07:26] <copernicus> dominik:http://askubuntu.com/questions/121226/how-to-completely-remove-a-oracle-jdk-that-didnt-install-properly
[07:26] <dominik> ok as u see : http://pl.tinypic.com/r/33be51i/8 i was right, but  how to erease it from there
[07:27] <copernicus> dominik: you may also need to reboot
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Beldar hmm.  have a link to a tutorial for that?
[07:27] <dominik> ok i am going to check it:)
[07:27] <Beldar> cfhowlett, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[07:28] <cfhowlett> Beldar that you!
[07:28] <Beldar> no prob
[07:29] <dominik> I LOVE U GUYS:) BIG BOTTLE OF WINE FOR U!!:)
[07:30] <copernicus> oh thanks
[07:30]  * copernicus chugs a bottle of wine
[07:30] <copernicus> seriously though, you're welcome.
[07:35] <Nickd55345353> can linux malware affect android devices?ty
[07:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> can I make rhythmbox download podcasts automatically? How do I do this?
[07:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ubuntu/rhythmbox
[07:37] <Beldar> Akiva-Thinkpad, this your 14.10 setup?
[07:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> no; just in general
[07:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I am an ignoramous when it comes to subscribing to podcasts or whatever
[07:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I am just tired of using youtube-dl
[07:39] <Beldar> Akiva-Thinkpad, can you post lsb_release -a
[07:39] <copernicus> Banshee will download stuff auto
[07:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> copernicus, oh neat. Do I give it an rss feed? or is that for domething different?
[07:40] <Beldar> Nickd55345353, linux malware?
[07:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Beldar, that is strange.... my lsb_release says 15.04
[07:41]  * Akiva-Thinkpad heads to #ubuntu+2
[07:41] <copernicus> Akiva-Thinkpad: nah man, totally different monster
[07:42] <Beldar> Akiva-Thinkpad, You have been abusing this channel this is release you know where the development channel is we spoke there today.
[07:42] <cfhowlett> Nickd55345353 never heard of such but ask #android
[07:42] <copernicus> it automatically downloads new episodes of podcasts you have
[07:42] <Nickd55345353> yes beldar
[07:42] <Nickd55345353> they are 600 malware for linux
[07:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Beldar, this is an issue I have in 14.04.
[07:43] <Beldar> Nickd55345353, right never seen one, root kits are another matter.
[07:43] <copernicus> Akiva-Thinkpad: http://banshee.fm/download/
[07:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> copernicus, thanks.
[07:43] <copernicus> Akiva-Thinkpad: I think Beldar just wants you to kind of keep the discussion on the topic
[07:44] <copernicus> There are other channels for other things.
[07:44] <copernicus> But yeah, glad I could help.
[07:44] <Beldar> copernicus, no to use the correct channels for the OS running
[07:44] <Beldar> deceptive answers are a red flag
[07:45]  * copernicus is confused
[07:45]  * cjhanks Is copernicus
[07:45]  * copernicus hurt itself in its confusion!
[07:46] <Akiva-Thinkpad> With all due respect, I would understand the objection if the question was specific to 14.10. Asking how to download or subscribe to podcasts on ubuntu is so general and across the board...  that I think it is irrational and frustrating to bother asking what release one is using.
[07:47] <cjhanks> Akiva-Thinkpad, what the sha1sum of your master boot record?
[07:47] <Akiva-Thinkpad> >_<
[07:47] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Beldar is a good guy though; I know he is trying to keep the riff raff out
[07:50] <rocko2_> why does debian livecd preform better than ubuntu livecd on a notebook?
[07:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> rocko2_, define, "Preform Better".
[07:51] <rocko2_> like the moving of windows acts all messed up
[07:51] <cfhowlett> rocko2_ it just does ( according to you).  now if you have an actual UBUNTU support question that we can solve - give the details
[07:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> lol
[07:52] <Akiva-Thinkpad> rocko2_, what is Debian's live cd environment?
[07:52] <rocko2_> lubuntu also does seem to detect wifi like in debian lxde live cd
[07:52] <cjhanks> cfhowlett, I would love to see you in customer service.
[07:52] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ha ha
[07:53] <jacomosi> hola gente de xubuntu
[07:53] <jacomosi> saludos a todos
[07:53] <cfhowlett> !es | jacomosi
[07:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !cookie
[07:53] <pa> how do i start and stop services in ubuntu 14.04 (like squid, for example)?
[07:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, beat me to the punch :P
[07:53] <pa> cant find it in /etc/init.d/
[07:53] <cjhanks> rocko2_, Are you talking about Debian GNOME being more performent than the Ubuntu counterpart?
[07:54] <cjhanks> pa: look in /etc/init and read the documentation on Upstart, that is currently Ubuntu's init system.
[07:54] <cynicallemon> until systemd
[07:55] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cjhanks, to that question, and please excuse my ignorance, but would "Gnome System Monitor" ever be a legitimate answer to that question?
[07:55] <Deepspeed> and rc.local sometimes
[07:55] <rocko2_> what is so funny?
[07:55] <rocko2_> no cjhanks
[07:55] <Akiva-Thinkpad> rocko2_, You should answer the questions we asked you :P
[07:55] <rocko2_> lubuntu and debian lxde livecd comparison
[07:56] <pa> upstart is horrible, omg!!!
[07:56] <rocko2_> unity ubuntu  acts messed up too
[07:56] <pa> at least before bash completion helped in finding what to invoke
[07:56] <pa> now what if one does not know the name of the service??
[07:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> rocko2_, How so?
[07:57] <cynicallemon> rocko2_, debian tends to be lighter than *buntu's in general hence "better performance"
[07:57] <rocko2_> it is slow
[07:57] <pa> i hate when self proclaimed software designer screw up life for others
[07:57] <cfhowlett> rocko2_ lubuntu is not lxde/debian.  unfair and invalid comparison.  as far as unity: it's a hungry beast.  lubuntu and xubuntu typically run better because they are less demanding
[07:57] <cjhanks> Akiva-Thinkpad, Gnome System monitor does give an easy high-level view into system status,  It is probably useful for people to loo at.
[07:58] <cjhanks> pa: restart <tab tab...> shows you nothing?
[07:58] <cjhanks> Or status, start, stop.
[07:58] <Akiva-Thinkpad> rocko2_, So one thing you have to realize, is that reading from a live cd is very slow, and Unity has a large memory footprint due to its aesthetic and advanced features.
[07:58] <pa> i googled and found "service nameservice start/stop/restart"
[07:58] <Akiva-Thinkpad> rocko2_, so it will naturally take "Longer" to do things in that regard. Usually though after you install the system, performance differences are negligable.
[07:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cjhanks, thanks for answering that for me.
[07:59] <rocko2_> so which should I install debian or ubuntu?
[07:59] <rocko2_> thinking debian
[08:00] <cfhowlett> rocko2_ go for it.  be happy.
[08:00] <Akiva-Thinkpad> rocko2_, Ubuntu, if you want a advanced desktop environment.
[08:00] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I am not sure how Debian's version of Unity is, whether it is stable.
[08:00] <cynicallemon> rocko2_, try all and decide what youre happiest with
[08:00] <jakesyl> hello, i'm having trouble with bind 9 when i run sudo service bind9 reload i get a reload failed;unexpected token error
[08:01] <cjhanks> UN EXPECTED!?
[08:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> But Unity is awesome; its hud allows you to run menu commands from just search. No other desktop allows that without some hackjob
[08:02] <jakesyl> i'm following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuVNclBfykw
[08:02] <cynicallemon> Akiva-Thinkpad, but you need to know the app name usually to do that
[08:02] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cynicallemon, You are talking about the dash
[08:02] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cynicallemon, I am talking about the hud
[08:02] <Akiva-Thinkpad> big difference.
[08:02] <jakesyl> so what is rndc.key
[08:02] <cjhanks> jakesyl, Have you seen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[08:03] <cynicallemon> Akiva-Thinkpad, yep sorry wasnt thinking right there :)
[08:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and even so; the dash will find apps with tags. You don't need to type in "Nautilus" to find the file manager.
[08:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cynicallemon, :)
[08:03] <jakesyl> cjhanks that's what the video was based off of, and yes
[08:03] <cjhanks> An unexpected token error is almost certainly in your config file, have you modified your config?
[08:04] <cjhanks> Akiva-Thinkpad, I can't remember ever not knowing where a while was.
[08:04] <cjhanks> file*
[08:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> lol; I was confused
[08:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> one thing that has been bugging me about ubuntu as of late, is its file search. I am glad Nautilus is being dropped; I feel as if it is just becoming worse and worse
[08:05] <jakesyl_mobile> So cjhanks any ideas?
[08:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ~ubuntu, Nautilus has been bugging me.
[08:06] <cjhanks> jakesyl_mobile, My advice is to mentally scan the config file.  Perhaps a missing quote, or semi-colon.
[08:06] <jakesyl> cjhanks, any chance it's a wrong ip?
[08:07] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, question - why are you bind9?
[08:07] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, question - why are you running bind9?
[08:09] <jakesyl> cynicallemon i'm just trying to get a static ip
[08:09] <jakesyl> i tried just configuring but i couldn't get rid of this one dhcp file because it was virtualized or something
[08:11] <jakesyl> well cynicallemon i'm going to remove bind9 and try to do a regular static ip, can you help with that at all?
[08:12] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, not sure why u need bind9 for a static ip - bind is for DNS
[08:13] <jakesyl> okay so how do i just so a static ip/
[08:14] <jakesyl> okay first question in this tutorial; http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ do i just leave the hostmask and stuff how they are cynicallemon
[08:15] <copernicus> jakesyl: why do you want a static ip?
[08:16] <jakesyl> copernicus i'm setting up an ssh test server, and my friends need to get into it 24/7
[08:16] <jakesyl> and if the ip keeps changing then...
[08:17] <copernicus> I see.
[08:17] <copernicus> maybe this will help: http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-in-ubuntu-the-proper-way/
[08:17] <jakesyl> okay copernicus, i'll try this, will you be on for the next eh-20 minutes if i need help/
[08:18] <copernicus> yes
[08:19] <cynicallemon> just looking at that static ip article, yeah follow that and see
[08:21] <jakesyl> copernicus- problem i cant even connect to the internet to get gksudo
[08:21] <copernicus> jakesyl: Well, that's a problem I'm not sure I can help you with. Details?
[08:22] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, get rid of bind9 if youve installed it and restart
[08:22] <copernicus> Because obvs you're online right now
[08:22] <jakesyl> i already got rid of bind9 should i restart the computer
[08:22] <copernicus> yes
[08:22] <cynicallemon> yeah
[08:22] <jakesyl> and i put this back in my network interface: http://git.io/ScyGtw
[08:23] <cynicallemon> that should do
[08:24] <jakesyl> reset didn't do anything, are there any other files i would've modified to install bind 9 that would effect me now
[08:24] <jakesyl> or can i just reset to network defaults/
[08:25] <jakesyl> or should i just do a fresh install/
[08:25] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:26] <jakesyl> yes, but thats it
[08:26] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:27] <jakesyl> no cynicallemon network is unreachable
[08:27] <jakesyl> i can't ping anything not local
[08:28] <copernicus> jakesyl: sudo nohup sh -c "ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0"
[08:29] <jakesyl> wait do you guys  just think i should do a fresh install i have nothing on here/
[08:29] <cynicallemon> easiest way
[08:29] <geirha> nohup seems pointless there
[08:29] <jakesyl> okay i'll just do a fresh install, this is a bit pointless
[08:30] <copernicus> if there's nothing to lose, why not
[08:30] <copernicus> setting to network defaults didn't help?
[08:30] <jakesyl> thanks for all the help anyway1!
[08:30] <cynicallemon> just out of curiosity, why didnt you use network manager to assign a static ip?
[08:31] <jakesyl> cynicallemon is that graphical user interface?
[08:31] <cynicallemon> yeah, you at the command line?
[08:32] <jakesyl> cynicallemon, yeah
[08:32] <cynicallemon> ok
[08:32] <jakesyl> i'm just installing a gui next time, ubuntu or xubuntu which one you think is best for setting up static and then uninstalling?
[08:33] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, what did you use for install this time?
[08:33] <jakesyl> like what os?
[08:34] <jakesyl> ubuntu sever, but that irc room's empty so i came here
[08:35] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, ah i see, i've got a server install with static but i stripped out some stuff like resolvconf and network manager
[08:35] <jakesyl> cynicallemon is yours just apache?
[08:36] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, just got mine running a few things like samba and transmission etc
[08:37] <jakesyl> ah okay i'm trying to do something a bit different, haha while i'm waiting for this fresh install maybe you could give me some pointers, do you have any idea how to setup a server just for ssh with multiple users like point me to a tutorial
[08:39] <copernicus> http://guylabs.ch/2013/07/25/configure-a-static-ip-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[08:41] <cynicallemon> jakesyl, you could start here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[08:41] <MohamamdSaleh> Hi
[08:41] <MohamamdSaleh> I have a question about linux command and php
[08:41] <MohamamdSaleh> is there anyone help me?
[08:41] <jakesyl> hi mohamadsaleh
[08:41] <MohamamdSaleh> Hi jakesyl
[08:41] <jakesyl> i might be able to help, i'm pretty good with php
[08:41] <jakesyl> whats your question?
[08:41] <MohamamdSaleh> jakesyl, ok, thanks.
[08:42] <Ben64> MohamamdSaleh: yeah normally just ask your question, don't ask to ask
[08:42] <MohamamdSaleh> jakesyl, I run a command in linux command line ( lsdvb) and return output
[08:43] <MohamamdSaleh> but when I using shell_exec return empty
[08:43] <GLaDER> Beldar, crumpe, stainedhat: Except for the menu bar being on the wrong monitor everything seem to work now. Although I think this will be my last attempt att fixing this OS. The next time I'm formatting and going back to arch.
[08:43] <jakesyl> Ben64 someone should really add that to the desc. php and python have it
[08:43] <kasper> Hello! I'm trying to use VNC from my Ubuntu Server to my Windows PC. I've setup a ssh tunnel through which I can connect using Putty. Now I try to connect with my UltraVNC to x11vnc but I'm not sure how I should do that using the tunnel. Can anyone help?
[08:44] <Ben64> jakesyl: its in the guidelines or something somewhere, plus ubottu has a trigger for it
[08:44] <koell> How do I apply a diff from launchpad?
[08:44] <cynicallemon> kasper, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced
[08:44] <Ben64> kasper: vnc TO windows?
[08:44] <MohamamdSaleh> jakesyl, I ask it ......
[08:45] <jakesyl> ik im researching
[08:45] <kasper> Ben64 x11vnc server is running on my ubuntu machine, I'm trying to connect from my windows
[08:46] <Ben64> kasper: ok, then make sure its listening on <IP_ADDRESS>, then use a tunnel that connects to the correct port
[08:46] <jakesyl> mohamamdsaleh what are you trying to execute pastebin it to us
[08:46] <novato_br> hi, morning. I've installed ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS. Its drivers video card doesn't work very well. I can't change video resolution from 640x480 to 1920x1080. I saw few tutorials that they didn't work. My configs are: processor i2600K 8GB ram - gpu: intel hd3000 - hd 1.8TB. What can I do?
[08:47] <kasper> Ben64 how can I make sure it is listening to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:47] <Ben64> kasper: netstat -ln | grep LISTEN | grep 127
[08:48] <jakesyl> what's the ubuntu-dev channel
[08:48] <MohamamdSaleh> jakesyl, it's little code: shell_exec('sudo lsdvb'); but return empty, but when run this command in the linux command line return output
[08:48] <kasper> ben64 says listen
[08:48] <copernicus>     when you run your script from the command line, you're still seeing the output because both streams are shared by the single terminal window; it's just that you're seeing it directly from wget and not from your PHP script;
[08:48] <copernicus>     in the case of passing it through Apache and to a browser to satisfy a web request, this terminal context is disconnected from the result the user sees.
[08:48] <copernicus> In your shell command you can redirect the former to the latter:
[08:48] <copernicus> $command = "wget http://mydomain.co/media/bigbigbig.wav 2>&1";
[08:48] <novato_br> bot, I want driver for my video card
[08:48] <Ben64> MohamamdSaleh: i'd bet because sudo is interactive
[08:49] <novato_br> ubottu, video drivers
[08:49] <novato_br> ubottu, video
[08:49] <Ben64> novato_br: ubottu is a bot, not a person...
[08:49] <MohamamdSaleh> Ben64: I have added www_data in sudoers too
[08:49] <novato_br> I know, Ben64. I need those drivers for my gpu
[08:49] <Ben64> MohamamdSaleh: that is a fantastically terrible idea
[08:50] <novato_br> I'm bothered. I pissed off
[08:50] <Ben64> novato_br: well intel drivers should already be in the kernel
[08:50] <novato_br> There aren't on this kernel
[08:50] <Ben64> seems very unlikely
[08:51] <novato_br> I can't change the video resolution from 640x480
[08:51] <novato_br> to any other resolution
[08:51] <MohamamdSaleh> Ben64: another commands return output in php properly but this command not working correctly
[08:51] <MohamamdSaleh> weird problem ......
[08:52] <novato_br> in this new ubuntu version you can't find the old xorg.conf file
[08:52] <Ben64> MohamamdSaleh: well my advice is to stop doing that. horribly insecure
[08:52] <Ben64> novato_br: right, it's not needed anymore
[08:52] <novato_br> I see, so you can't change anything anymore
[08:52] <Ben64> novato_br: thats not what i said
[08:52] <MohamamdSaleh> Ben64: why? I have required it, and it run in local system not in internet
[08:52] <kasper> Ben64: my vnc desktop is localhost:2 port 5902. The local IP Ubuntu IP is <IP_ADDRESS>. SSH port 2222. How do I set up my putty now?
[08:53] <copernicus> novato_br: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[08:53] <copernicus> ?
[08:53] <Ben64> MohamamdSaleh: giving www-data sudo access is a bad idea. theres a reason www-data exists, and its security
[08:54] <Ben64> kasper: sorry, i don't use putty
[08:54] <novato_br> i've tried that, copernicus
[08:54] <novato_br> it didn't worked
[08:54] <MohamamdSaleh> Ben64: yes I understand but I can not found another way ......
[08:54] <Ben64> novato_br: just confirmed, the intel drivers are indeed in 14.04
[08:54] <novato_br> work*
[08:54] <copernicus> did you restart?
[08:54] <novato_br> Ben64, how can I confirm that?
[08:54] <novato_br> yes, copernicus
[08:55] <Ben64> novato_br: i just informed you of it. pastebin "lshw -C VIDEO" though
[08:55] <novato_br> ok
[08:55] <copernicus> ok
[08:58] <copernicus> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[08:58] <copernicus> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:58] <copernicus> sudo update-alternatives --remove gl_conf /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf
[08:58] <copernicus> novato_br
[08:58] <MohamamdSaleh_> Ben64: do you any idea instead of using www-data in sudoers?