[00:00] <LeviM_> TJ-: http://imgur.com/QTNzgKV
[00:00] <LeviM_> The GuC firmware is the issue I am fairly certain.
[00:01] <TJ-> LeviM_: OK, busybox shell is due to not finding the root file-system
[00:01] <TJ-> Where is it?
[00:01] <LeviM_> On /dev/nvme0n1p3
[00:01] <TJ-> LeviM_: OK which is a NVME SSD?
[00:01] <TJ-> so you need to force-include the kernel driver for the nvme into the initrd
[00:02] <LeviM_> Yes.
[00:02] <LeviM_> Yeah, that's what I was trying to do with root=
[00:02] <LeviM_> (earlier)
[00:02] <LeviM_> I failed.
[00:02] <TJ-> so it'll need adding to the root file-system's /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file
[00:02] <LeviM_> But I don't know GRUB at all.
[00:02] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: k1l_: I extracted the .iso with 7-zip. Where would you look for the wallpapers? :)
[00:02] <TJ-> and then update-initramfs -u -k <version> to build the new /boot/initrd.img-<version> again
[00:03] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: do a search ?
[00:03] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: I am. Finding nothing.
[00:03] <TJ-> LeviM_: this isn't anything to do with GRUB, it's just a module not included in the initrd.img
[00:03] <Jan\> for .png or something
[00:03] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: Yeah, I've tried *.png, *.jpg, .png, .jpg, wallpapers, backgrounds.
[00:03] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: try a .png search ??
[00:03] <LeviM_> So I have i915 in that file
[00:03] <daftykins> jpeg
[00:03] <LeviM_> And I have regenerated it
[00:04] <LeviM_> I think it's actually missing the firmware
[00:04] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: try jpeg like he said
[00:04] <LeviM_> Look at the image again.
[00:04] <daftykins> they won't be raw on the ISO :>
[00:04] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Jan\: Only a "jpeg.mod" file. :o
[00:04] <LeviM_> I think that is something I can copy over as well, yeah?
[00:04] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: No? Where are they hidden then?
[00:05] <LeviM_> TJ-: It isn't finding i915/skl_guc_ver4.bin
[00:05] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO:  try *.png* etc
[00:05] <LeviM_> Which does not exist.
[00:05] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: I did, but daftykins said they won't be raw on the .iso file.
[00:05] <TJ-> LeviM_: you need /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers/block/nvme.ko for the root FS to be found.
[00:05] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: did you mean p7zip?
[00:06] <TJ-> LeviM_: it looks like for some reason the firmware for the i915 module isn't being automatically included, although it should be
[00:06] <daftykins> or are you *gasp* in Windows?
[00:06] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Well, I just right-clicked and "Extract Here".
[00:06] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Nope, not in Windows.
[00:06] <VictoriaXOXO> No more Windows for me.
[00:06] <daftykins> right but 7zip isn't on Loonix to my knowledge
[00:06] <VictoriaXOXO> Well, p7zip then.
[00:07] <VictoriaXOXO> Or whatever "Extract Here" uses?!
[00:07] <LeviM_> TJ-: Can I just copy this one? :D
[00:07] <bonzibuddy> gah - on every single ubuntu install I have, the unity/network-manager thing for vpn never works
[00:08] <bonzibuddy> does anyone know how to fix or at least debug this??
[00:08] <LeviM_> Actually my working Arch install doesn't have nvme.ko
[00:08] <k1l_> bonzibuddy: did you installed the needed packages?
[00:08] <VictoriaXOXO> bonzibuddy: I've had the same problem !many! times and just eventually gave up and had some similiar problems on MATE, but it works now.
[00:08] <bonzibuddy> I right click -> vpn -> select my vpn (Which worked fine previously) but, no UI comes up, no vpn connection made
[00:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: the i915 firmware file can be got from https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/i915
[00:08] <bonzibuddy> k1l_: yeah it was fine and working a few weeks ago
[00:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: and no, you can't copy over the Arch .ko, the signatures won't match
[00:09] <UnwantedAngel> how do you kill a task ?
[00:09] <bonzibuddy> VictoriaXOXO ikr
[00:09] <bonzibuddy> ill have to just launch it from terminal i suppose
[00:09] <TJ-> LeviM_: the hardware is so new the firmware isn't included in the 15.10 linux-firmware yet so you have to get them manually
[00:09] <bonzibuddy> like i have no idea... every single install I have has this problem.  4 different machines
[00:09] <k1l_> bonzibuddy: what happend then?
[00:09] <TJ-> LeviM_: is the Arch install using plain AHCI maybe?
[00:10] <bonzibuddy> @k1l_ I'm wondering if an update clobbered a config or something
[00:10] <LeviM_> I did build linux-firmware, but I thought only the wireless.
[00:10] <LeviM_> Maybe I built everything.
[00:10] <TJ-> bonzibuddy: what kind of VPN is it?
[00:10] <LeviM_> Can't remember.
[00:10] <bonzibuddy> TJ- just openvpn.  i administer the server
[00:11] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: ah you just use product names when you're not sure, ok nevermind (the program could have had a bearing on the result)
[00:11] <bonzibuddy> it works fine on windows machines
[00:11] <bonzibuddy> and it _did_ work on all _4_ of my ubuntu boxes
[00:11] <LeviM_> TJ-: The plain is 404'ing
[00:11] <TJ-> bonzibuddy: OK, so does "nmcli con up id ...." bring it up ?
[00:11] <bonzibuddy> and then mysteriously, nope.  UI never launches.  Reboots dont fix it
[00:11] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Well, it's not that important.
[00:11] <bonzibuddy> TJ- will try that 1s
[00:12] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: wallpapers, no... not even vaguely.
[00:12] <TJ-> LeviM_: that is because, if you look, that entry is a symlink to skl_guc_ver4_3.bin
[00:12] <bonzibuddy> TJ-: that works
[00:12] <bonzibuddy> :)
[00:12] <TJ-> bonzibuddy: OK, so something in the nm-openvpn-gnome GUI then?
[00:12] <bonzibuddy> but the ui never does! when i right click the network... thing in the upper right > vpn connections > click my vpn, it used to work, no longer does
[00:13] <TJ-> bonzibuddy: check $HOME/.xsession-errors for clues
[00:13] <bonzibuddy> TJ-: I assume so - will check that now
[00:13] <LeviM_> TJ-: I've been working on this for too long, I can tell :D
[00:13] <LeviM_> Thanks.
[00:13] <VictoriaXOXO> bonzibuddy: This TJ- gentleman is like a god when it comes to helping, but if he can't help you, just give up. Abandon the Unity ship! :o)
[00:13] <TJ-> LeviM_: I know the feeling :D
[00:13] <TJ-> Thanks @ VictoriaXOXO ... I think :p
[00:13] <VictoriaXOXO> :D
[00:14] <TJ-> I'd say abandon the Unity ship just because you can :D
[00:14] <bonzibuddy> TJ-: nothing related to vpn.. just listing some scripts starting up in .xsession-errors
[00:14] <bonzibuddy> lol I've strayed from unity but everything else works out just as- or even buggier for me
[00:14] <bonzibuddy> so I just keep coming back
[00:14] <bonzibuddy> maybe GNOME 2
[00:14] <TJ-> bonzibuddy: check /var/log/syslog - that's where Network Manager logs everything to, but the GUI is not the service, of course
[00:15] <bonzibuddy> yeah :/ like a lot of people mus thave this problem right
[00:15] <bonzibuddy> I get it on new installs, even
[00:15] <TJ-> bonzibuddy: I use it extensively; never had an issue. maybe it is something in the way you configure it
[00:15] <bonzibuddy> well anyway, thanks for the nmcli tip :)
[00:15] <VictoriaXOXO> bonzibuddy: You might not like it, but MATE has treated me really well.
[00:16] <TJ-> The more eye-candy these various DEs get, the more I want to retreat into a framebuffer console :)
[00:16] <k1l_> TJ-: iirc you need to set nm to ldebug log first: sudo /usr/lib/NetworkManager/debug-helper.py --nm debug
[00:17] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: These days, "eye-candy" =/= bloat. :P
[00:18] <TJ-> k1l_: For the network-manager-openvpn-gnome I'm not sure
[00:18] <k1l_> ok
[00:18] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: I find the bloat gets in the way of being effecient most of the time; or it actually regresses usability
[00:19] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: and TJ-: What does your desktops look like? I'm really curious. :o)
[00:19] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Yep. I've turned off as much as possible.
[00:19] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: KDE5, with black background, dark theme, 6 monitors, different application full-screen on each
[00:19] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: 6 monitors?!
[00:19] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: I also use LXDE
[00:20] <VictoriaXOXO> Wow, okay.
[00:20]  * bonzibuddy feels like a chump with dual monitors
[00:20] <LeviM_> TJ-: So I put it in /lib/firmware/i915/ and made the symlink
[00:20] <LeviM_> I rebooted and it had the same issue - do I need to rerun something?
[00:21] <LeviM_> the initrd stuff?
[00:21] <aped> Is there a nuitka-specific channel somewhere? Only references I saw were to this chan
[00:21] <calineedsh20> windows what a piece of shit, am i right
[00:21] <calineedsh20> don't hurt me pls
[00:22] <rypervenche> calineedsh20: Language.
[00:22] <k1l_> calineedsh20: please make sure to read the guidelines and focus on technical ubuntu support in here.
[00:22] <bazhang> whats the ubuntu support issue calineedsh20
[00:24] <LeviM_> TJ-: I reran initramfs and it got past that error. On to the next one! :D
[00:24] <bprompt> !topic | calineedsh20
[00:25] <calineedsh20> sorry guys it was a joke lol
[00:25] <Jan\> TJ-:  the problem I got with the awstats install is I can't find the awstats.model.conf file
[00:25] <TJ-> LeviM_: you'll need to do something manually to include the firmware file, I *think*
[00:25] <bprompt> calineedsh20:   channel is help out folks, not to do OS bashing though, just so you know :)
[00:26] <LeviM_> Yeah, I found something on an arch board:
[00:26] <calineedsh20> bprompt: yeah it was a joke. I actually use windows lol. Somebody just linked this irc so I came in here
[00:26] <LeviM_> "were due to the fact that I loaded nvme as a module instead of compiling it in the kernel. This caused i915 to be loaded in initramfs before the disk was mounted, hence the error that the firmware was not found. The right way to fix this is to recompile the kernel with nvme compiled directly into it"
[00:26] <TJ-> LeviM_: the way update-initramfs works is it figures out which modules need to be included, then it asks eah module which firmware files it needs, and copies those into the initrd. We had a recent problem with that whereby it only copied in the symlinks but *not* the files they point to - not sure if that bug might be affecting you
[00:27] <k1l_> calineedsh20: tell that user not to send more trolls to here. if you want to chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:27] <TJ-> LeviM_: that quote makes no sense - i915 (GPU) has ziltch to do with the nvme block device driver
[00:28] <bprompt> calineedsh20:    ok, we get folks saying things like that here now and then, so, thus, no harm done
[00:28] <TJ-> LeviM_: during initrd script execution the *only* place it looks for the firmware files, is in the initrd itself
[00:28] <LeviM_> Gotcha.
[00:28] <calineedsh20> k1l_: k thanks
[00:28] <TJ-> LeviM_: to put it simply -initial ram file-system is self-contained
[00:29] <LeviM_> So now I have it hard-coded to /dev/nvme0n1p3.
[00:29] <LeviM_> That was all I had to do on arch, but this still failed.
[00:29] <LeviM_> So it seems there is something I am missing.
[00:29] <TJ-> LeviM_: is the module now in the initrd ?
[00:29] <LeviM_> Well... not sure how to check.
[00:29] <LeviM_> I did rerun the initramfs and it gave no errors.
[00:30] <TJ-> LeviM_: check with "lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-<VERSION> | grep nvme"
[00:30] <daftykins> ooh nvme, i smell a new build
[00:30] <TJ-> LeviM_: or if you're at the initrd's busybox shell, do "find /lib -name 'nvme*"
[00:30] <TJ-> daftykins: VERY new; lots of missing hardware/firmware support
[00:31] <daftykins> LeviM_: may i ask which drive? is it a skylake build?
[00:31] <LeviM_> It's the XPS 13 (9350)
[00:31] <LeviM_> Yes, a Skylake build.
[00:31] <daftykins> ah my dream laptop
[00:31] <daftykins> :)
[00:31] <LeviM_> Well don't buy it yet.
[00:32] <daftykins> it's ok, i don't run Linux on the desktop :)
[00:32] <LeviM_> At least wait for kernel 4.4 to hit in a distro somewhere :D
[00:32]  * daftykins ducks
[00:32] <LeviM_> Actually, alternatively just get a new wireless card :D
[00:32] <k1l_> dell got a department  making ubuntu run on xps
[00:32] <LeviM_> Correct, but not for this machine. Yet.
[00:33] <ikonia> I wouldn't be surprised if 4.4 was made table within the next 14 days
[00:33] <ikonia> and all this problem will be behind you with 1 command
[00:33] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Why are there !two! steps of encryption in the installer? What happens if I use set up FDE in the first step, but then in the next step don't set up home folder encryption. Is my home folder still being encrypted by the first step or what? :/
[00:34] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: FDE protects the disk when the system is powered off; ecryptfs home directory encryption protects your user files when you're not logged in
[00:34] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Uhhhhh... ohhhhhhh...
[00:35] <TJ-> I'm sure we've been here before, or I have deja-vu
[00:35] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: No, I'm pretty sure I've asked this before. :P
[00:35] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: But forgot the answer.
[00:35] <TJ-> I'm sure you have too :D
[00:35] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: So, if the police raids my home when the PC is powered off, all my files, including the home folder, is safe?
[00:36] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: assuming you've used a complex passphrase and can withstand the torture to make you reveal it
[00:36] <daftykins> yep 'cause they don't care what your cat looks like
[00:36] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Haha. :D
[00:36] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Dude. I do actually have some sensitive stuff. :|
[00:37] <TJ-> I'm not sure which cat daftykins was referring to
[00:37] <VictoriaXOXO> Oh, no.
[00:37] <TJ-> probably the pet kind, not the Lioness kind
[00:38] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: whatever you say :)
[00:38] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: I think my passphrase is like... 73 characters long. Why would someone choose to encrypt only the home folder instead of FDE?
[00:38] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: your data is that safe that if something goes wrong all data is safe forever. keep that in mind.
[00:38] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Yeah, I know. Gulp.
[00:39] <zykotick9> VictoriaXOXO: you might be interested in the note in the 2nd section on this page http://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/encrypted_trisquel.html
[00:39] <k1l_> for beginners diffucult setups like lvm or encryption just add layers that make it harder to restore after a user error.
[00:40] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Well, the most important stuff is backed up on a fully encrypted USB stick that is hidden.
[00:40] <VictoriaXOXO> zykotick9: Hold on. Will read.
[00:40] <TJ-> hmmm, looks like an openssl update is on the way
[00:41] <k1l_> and VictoriaXOXO for future reference: before you come asking the same stuff every 2nd week there is a wiki and helppages on ubuntu.com. you can read there for starters
[00:41] <daftykins> flash drives are not viable backup media
[00:41] <VictoriaXOXO> zykotick9: Are you talking about this? "when the installer asks you to set up encryption (ecryptfs) for your home directory, select 'Yes' if you want to: LUKS is already secure and performs well. Having ecryptfs on top of it will add noticeable performance penalty, for little security gain in most use cases. This is therefore optional, and not recommended. Choose 'no'."
[00:41] <zykotick9> VictoriaXOXO: yup.
[00:41] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Yes, I know. *ashamed* But I never find any answers!
[00:42] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: i just hope you're getting good grades in this homework
[00:42] <VictoriaXOXO> zykotick9: Got it. Thanks.
[00:42] <vacho> hello guys
[00:42] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: :P
[00:42] <daftykins> hi
[00:42] <vacho> I want to compress everything in a folder including all hidden files and sub directories, what command does this?
[00:42] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: I'd disagree with that recommendation. LUKS and ecryptfs are designed for entirely differently threat models
[00:43] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Well, it's just information right now, because I've already had FDE for weeks. Just interesting. :)
[00:44] <Natsu> buenas noches quien anda por aqui?
[00:44] <k1l_> !es | Natsu
[00:46] <TJ-> vacho: for the current directory: "tar -czf ../archive.tar.gz  . "
[00:46] <vacho> TJ-: I just realized I want to exclude the folder .git
[00:47] <vacho> folder I want to compress is called paas, inside it is a folder called .git I want to exclude
[00:48] <k1l_> having to use tar i always feel reminded to this: https://xkcd.com/1168/ :)
[00:48] <TJ-> vacho: for the current directory: "tar --exclude=.git  -czf ../archive.tar.gz  . " (I think)
[00:48] <Natsu> thank estoy alli pero nadie habla jejeje
[00:48] <vacho> ok thx TJ-
[00:53] <Loke-ion> so pressed suspend, won't suspend goes to lock screen and nothing else works as in reboot, shutdown
[00:53] <Loke-ion> /sbin/reboot says failed to start reboot.target: Transcation is destructive
[00:55] <Gallomimia> suggest you use shutdown -r now
[00:56] <Loke-ion> same error
[00:57] <whitenoise_> hey guys, i was wondering if someone could help me with an ASLR question
[00:57] <whitenoise_> my randomize_va_space is set to 2, which means it should have full randomization
[00:57] <whitenoise_> however, this program when I run it: http://pastebin.com/QV5fUn17 does not randomize the location of strcpy or printf
[00:58] <whitenoise_> between runs you can see the memory address remains the same. shouldn't it randomize that?
[00:58] <daftykins> this is not a dev channel
[00:59] <Gallomimia> whitenoise_: it looks like you probably want ##assembly or something
[01:00] <whitenoise_> it's not really a dev question
[01:00] <Gallomimia> yes it is.
[01:00] <whitenoise_> but I think the problem is that the @plt is not the address of the method call.
[01:00] <Natsu> I need some guidance or assistance in Spanish please, I have reviewed all internet and got Lubuntu'm starting to a somewhat old laptop.
[01:00] <Gallomimia> !ot | whitenoise_
[01:00] <whitenoise_> it's an OS-doing-addressing question
[01:01] <daftykins> whitenoise_: my friendly suggestion is to not fight it, but message the freenode bot 'alis' for a more relevant channel.
[01:01] <TJ-> whitenoise_: did you link with -fPIE option?
[01:02] <bazhang> !es | Natsu
[01:02] <Natsu> That is empty
[01:02] <Natsu> :(
[01:03] <Gallomimia> aw :(
[01:03] <bazhang> it has 47 users Natsu
[01:04] <reg3x> Hello everyone. I'm trying to install ubuntu 15.10 on a NVMe ssd drive and I got an error installing the bootloader
[01:05] <reg3x> is this the right channel to get a friendly hand that could help me ?
[01:05] <TJ-> reg3x: Yes, tell us more about the specific error
[01:05] <reg3x> "Bootloader install failed"
[01:05] <TJ-> reg3x: is this the Ubuntu Desktop installer?
[01:05] <reg3x> I got windows 10 installed on my NVMe ssd . then I ran the 15.10 installation
[01:06] <reg3x> yes Ubuntu Desktop through a PenDrive
[01:06] <TJ-> reg3x did the installer boot in UEFI mode?
[01:06] <reg3x> I'm having some options to choose and I don't know which one is the right
[01:06] <VictoriaXOXO> GTG! See you all later.
[01:06] <reg3x> the installer is asking me for the right  device to install the bootloader
[01:07] <TJ-> reg3x: did you do the "Try Ubuntu" method ?
[01:07] <reg3x> TJ-: I don't know if it boot in UEFI mode
[01:07] <reg3x> yes TJ-
[01:07] <TJ-> reg3x: good :) OK, start a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T I think) so you have a shell prompt
[01:07] <LeviM_> TJ-: My biggest source of confusion is why it boots on 4.2 but not 4.4...
[01:08] <LeviM_> Why can't it find the drive/
[01:08] <reg3x> I'm being asked between 4 devices to install the bootloader on
[01:08] <LeviM_> :(
[01:08] <reg3x> ok TJ-
[01:08] <reg3x> TJ-:  im already on a terminal
[01:08] <TJ-> reg3x: then do "ls -l /sys/firmware/efi/" and tell me if you see several entries reported
[01:09] <TJ-> LeviM_: without it being in front of me it is hard to guess about that, but as I said earlier, 4.4 RC3 is still early
[01:09] <reg3x> TJ-:  theres not such efi directory
[01:11] <TJ-> reg3x: OK, that explains it. The USB boot was Legacy BIOS, not UEFI mode. Windows 10 is almost certainly installed to boot in UEFI mode. Therefore, the GRUB bootloader installation fails because it is trying to install for BIOS mode/disk layout, but can't. You need to reboot the installer and at the PC's manual boot menu, ensure you select the EFI boot mode for the USB device, not the BIOS
[01:11] <reg3x> TJ-:  running "sudo fdisk -l" I could see 2 NTFS partitions 1 Extended 1 Linux and 1 Linux swap
[01:11] <TJ-> reg3x: usually the USB device will be listed twice, once for EFI mode and another for BIOS mode, but the entries may not be entirely clear as to which is which mode
[01:12] <TJ-> reg3x: can you do "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:12] <reg3x> TJ-:  thats right . I chose the BIOS mode i believe cause i didnt know what EFI was
[01:12] <reg3x> should I reboot and restart the whole instalation ?
[01:13] <TJ-> reg3x: show us the termbin paste result first
[01:13] <reg3x> Done TJ-
[01:13] <TJ-> reg3x: tell us the URL
[01:13] <reg3x> http://termbin.com/fvdj
[01:13] <whitenoise_> TJ-: I did. I am going to go ask in the ubuntu-security channel. My randomize_va_space is set to 2, and I used -fPIE
[01:14] <whitenoise_> and I verified the actual system call addresses aren't changing
[01:14] <TJ-> whitenoise_: that does seem weird
[01:14] <whitenoise_> here is a better paste: http://pastebin.com/xSZH6C54
[01:14] <whitenoise_> that seems like Ubuntu isn't working properly
[01:15] <reg3x> TJ-:  should I reboot and go to my bios and select the other option for the USB drive and reinstall ?
[01:15] <whitenoise_> i'll go tag a security folk and see if I'm doing something wrong in my test case
[01:16] <TJ-> reg3x: I think you need to; that parted output suggests the PC has an NTFS EFI System Partition as partition #1. That's not a good sign; EFI-SP should be FAT, and it might cause problems for Linux/GRUB
[01:17] <reg3x> ok TJ- I'm worried I could loose the data on my window partition?
[01:17] <reg3x> TJ-: I have the option "Continue without a bootloader" "cancel the installation"
[01:18] <reg3x> TJ-: so maybe I'll try to "continue without a bootloader" and then go into my bios and choose the other option for my usb drive , right ? something with EFI on it
[01:18] <TJ-> reg3x: yes, that sounds good
[01:18] <TJ-> reg3x: you won't over-write Windows unless you choose to do so :)
[01:19] <reg3x> TJ-: thanks man, great support. I gonna try to do that just now
[01:19] <reg3x> TJ-: heheh you're right
[01:19] <UnwantedAngel> hello, it s me. iv been trying to connect to my ubuntu vnc server from a win7 machine. but it doesnt work. the ip are good. but i can t connect to any vnc server
[01:19] <TJ-> whitenoise_: you *did* disable gdb's disable-randomization, didn't you?
[01:20] <UnwantedAngel> what should i do ?
[01:21] <UnwantedAngel> nevermind it works now :)
[01:23] <reg3x> TJ-:  booting my pendrive at UEFI option I can only see like a terminal "grub>" and thats it.  is my pendrive defective ?
[01:23] <reg3x> TJ-: I mean the whole screen is a terminal and it says "GNU GRUB version 2.02beta2-29"
[01:23] <TJ-> reg3x: hmmm, I think you have a very-new PC hardware chipset that might be itnroducing unexpected issues
[01:24] <TJ-> reg3x: Oh, no, that's fine! That's the GRUB menu you get when it boots in EFI mode, sorry!
[01:24] <TJ-> reg3x: make your selection and continue
[01:24] <reg3x> TJ-:  thats right. it's a skylake i7 6700k and new stuff
[01:24] <reg3x> TJ-: but I dont see selection options I just see a prompt
[01:24] <TJ-> reg3x: you'll need to totally reinstall, overwrite what the previous installer run did, but you'll be fine now
[01:24] <TJ-> really? no menu?
[01:24] <reg3x> TJ-:  is like expecting me to write commands
[01:25] <reg3x> TJ-:  no menu, just a prompt like : "grub> _"
[01:25] <TJ-> hmmm, that means it failed to find the grub.cfg which defines the menu
[01:25] <reg3x> TJ-: I also have a dvd version . should I try the DVD installation ?
[01:26] <TJ-> before you do: type "ls" do you see several devices of the form (hdX,gptY)
[01:27] <Techno568> Is Xbuntu a lightweight os?
[01:27] <daftykins> yes
[01:27] <Techno568> Really?
[01:27] <UnwantedAngel> Really ?
[01:27] <daftykins> in modern terms, yeah.
[01:27] <daftykins> not as much as Lubuntu, but it's less ugly, in my personal opinion
[01:28] <Techno568> I was always told that Xbuntu was Gnome-like and very heavy weight. I wanted to check.
[01:28] <Techno568> Me too daftykins.
[01:28] <reg3x> TJ-:  (hd0,msdos1),  (hd1,msdos6) , (hd1,msdos5), (hd1,msdos2), (hd1,msdos1)
[01:28] <daftykins> Techno568: what's the spec of the target system you have in mind?
[01:28] <UnwantedAngel> Is it difficult to find people for an open source project ?
[01:28] <reg3x> TJ-: I also see others like (memdisk) (hd0) (hd1)
[01:29] <daftykins> !ot | UnwantedAngel
[01:29] <UnwantedAngel> oops ok
[01:29] <TJ-> reg3x: OK, so the USB device should be hd0, try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/" do you see any dirs/files listed?
[01:30] <Techno568> Idk daftykins. It is an Intel Pentium and it used to run Win XP. I have ubuntu right now, but it doesnt work well.
[01:30] <reg3x> TJ-: I get error: unknown filesystem
[01:31] <TJ-> reg3x: well that is weird! It looks like the USB ISO image has an NTFS file-system too
[01:31] <daftykins> Techno568: are you typing from ubuntu? "grep -i model /proc/cpuinfo"
[01:31] <reg3x> TJ-: perhaps I should go directly with the DVD installation and cross fingers that through DVD i wont get any UEFI issues
[01:31] <Techno568> No daftykins.
[01:31] <daftykins> Techno568: what, then?
[01:31] <reg3x> TJ-: I created the pendrive from Windows through a tool called pendrivelinux  downloaded on my windows
[01:32] <TJ-> reg3x: it's worth a try. I'm concerned as to why you're seeing an apparently NTFS file-system on the USB, it should be FAT
[01:32] <TJ-> reg3x: Ahhhh!!
[01:32] <reg3x> TJ-:  was that the issue ?
[01:32] <TJ-> reg3x: generally the best tools are the ones that literally copy the ISO image byte-for-byte onto the USB, fromt hefirst sector to the last
[01:32] <TJ-> reg3x: Yes, I'd think very likely so
[01:33] <reg3x> TJ-:  im relief now that we know
[01:33] <TJ-> daftykins: can you help reg3x here with a Windows tool suggestion for writing the ISO to USB
[01:33] <Techno568> Chrome OS daftykins.
[01:33] <ryao-phone> Cygwin
[01:33] <reg3x> TJ-: I'm sure the ideal way to create that bootable pendrive was not using that windows tool
[01:33] <ryao-phone> If this is a Ubuntu ISO, use dd.
[01:33] <TJ-> reg3x: you should try the DVD but daftykins can tell you better than me about using Windows tools
[01:34] <eletious> Hey guys
[01:34] <daftykins> oh hi, EFI or legacy boot USB prep?
[01:34] <reg3x> TJ-: right now I have a DVD on my hand . and to be honest I hope this was just the first and last time to use a Windows tool to create a linux bootable pendrive.. :P
[01:34] <Ubuntu2330> Can someone help me configure my firewall to allow Prey to work? I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Ubuntu 14
[01:34] <TJ-> daftykins: EFI, reg3x just needs a tool that writes the raw ISO to the USB
[01:35] <TJ-> reg3x: use the DVD now, but you'll know if you ever need to do it again
[01:35] <daftykins> reg3x: format the flash drive by hand as FAT32, from Windows, then just extract the ISO contents using winRAR or 7zip to the drive
[01:35] <reg3x> TJ-:  daftykins anyway it would be helpful to know what tool can do that on windows (raw copy of an ISO)
[01:35] <daftykins> you don't need to for EFI boot
[01:35] <eletious> I'm trying to install neep fonts and I can't seem to get it to work... I installed the appropriate package, ran dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
[01:35] <eletious> Nothing's adding it to any of my menus
[01:36] <eletious> Do you guys have any suggestions?  Or am I just to never use bitmap fonts
[01:36] <reg3x> daftykins: TJ- it would be really great if you guys could elevate those instructions into the ubuntu site, so people do that instead of pendrivelinux windows app
[01:37] <daftykins> reg3x: is that ok? for general purpose use, such as for legacy boot, i would say rufus or UUI from pendrivelinux.com
[01:37] <daftykins> reg3x: YUMI or UUI? both have worked fine for me, i have no idea how you could've gone wrong
[01:37] <TJ-> reg3x: I think the ubuntu wiki/help has got so large we've lost the ability to control it :D
[01:38] <reg3x> daftykins: to be honest im not quite sure which of those apps I used
[01:38] <reg3x> daftykins: I would have to look
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Techno568: Food for thought : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements/ .
[01:38] <daftykins> TJ-: it's sentient!
[01:39] <TJ-> it's summat :p
[01:40] <reg3x> TJ-: I'm geeting also 2 options for my DVD,  an UEFI option an a non-UEFI.. which one should I use? may I ask why I'm getting 2 options?
[01:40] <TJ-> reg3x: UEFI
[01:40] <reg3x> TJ-: what is all this UEFI stuff? this is my first time using a BIOS like this
[01:40] <TJ-> reg3x: because the ISOs are built to be hybrid bootable - BIOS or UEFI mode, and hard-disk or ISO9660
[01:40] <eletious> reg3x, you get both options because your computer plays nice and supports both old and new formats!
[01:40] <reg3x> oh ic
[01:41] <TJ-> reg3x: UEFI Unified Extensible Firmware Interface. Replaces BIOS (Basic Input Output System)
[01:41] <reg3x> eletious: :) is a new desktop mine was soooo old and finally I decided to have a new one.  this is my first time with such BIOS
[01:42] <eletious> reg3x, UEFI is neato stuff!  It's a lot faster too :)
[01:42] <eletious> So anybody have any idea about that font issue?
[01:42] <reg3x> eletious: awesome. and the mouse support and all that graphical interfase..
[01:42] <eletious> reg3x, OH MY GOD YES
[01:42] <daftykins> !cookie | TJ-
[01:43] <TJ-> reg3x: that isn't anything to do with UEFI ... it's a GUI layer on top
[01:43] <reg3x> ok TJ-
[01:45] <reg3x> TJ-: the DVD installation is like freezed on "[0.059945 Ignoring BGRT: invalid status 0 (expected 1)]"  I wonder if it has to do with the optical device failing..
[01:46] <reg3x> TJ-: I'm at the same time formating my pendrive into FAT, and then do the whole ISO extraction the right way
[01:47] <TJ-> reg3x: that line is reporting a system ACPI BGRT table error
[01:47] <reg3x> TJ-: what could be the cause?
[01:49] <TJ-> bug in the firmware; BGRT == Boottime Graphics Resource Table
[01:50] <reg3x> ok TJ-
[01:50] <TJ-> reg3x: that shouldn't be the cause of the freeze though
[01:50] <reg3x> TJ-: was the first line I got on my screen and I hear a noise in the DVD unit like trying to read over and over
[01:50] <TJ-> reg3x: the kernel is just letting you know it is ignoring the BGRT
[01:50] <TJ-> reg3x: faulty DVD? faulty image on DVD? faulty DVD-drive?
[01:51] <reg3x> TJ-:  ok I'll asume it is then the optical drive not behaving well.. it is an external blueray burner
[01:51] <Techno568> What are other ubuntu IRC channels?
[01:51] <TJ-> reg3x: time to re-write that USB key correctly
[01:51] <reg3x> TJ-:  yes sir, on my way!
[01:52] <k1l_> Techno568: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[01:52] <reg3x> TJ-:  I have an old laptop with manjaro ... so I'll use it to create the bootable pendrive
[01:52] <TJ-> reg3x: good luck with it, I'm off to bed :)
[01:52] <reg3x> ok TJ- I'll feel then alone in this . wish me luck
[01:53] <Techno568> how do you do the ubottu cookie thing?
[01:54] <k1l_> !cookie | Techno568
[01:54] <daftykins> only volunteers can feed TJ
[01:54] <Techno568> !cookie | k1l_
[01:54] <alazyworkaholic> Hello, I´m stuck in a login-loop and trying to make sense of some error messages. During boot, this appears: <<< [      6.305583] systemd[1]: Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. [FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. See 'systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service'for details >>> The result of that is here: http://pastebin.com/W79Sckf2
[01:56] <eletious> Okay, I figured it out!
[01:56] <alazyworkaholic> Anyone here understand systemd & kernel modules?
[01:57] <eletious> Can somebody please, PLEASE talk to canonical about making bitmap font settings a little bit easier to use?  I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be easy to tweak :P
[01:58] <bazhang> eletious, thats nothing to do with canonical, file a bug report
[01:58] <bazhang> !bugs | eletious
[01:58] <bazhang> wishlist it eletious
[01:58] <eletious> bazhang: I will!  Thanks :)
[01:58] <bazhang> welcome
[01:58] <eletious> Though at this point I wonder if it's more a Debian issue...
[01:58] <bazhang> doubtful
[01:59] <eletious> I read awhile back that Debian's settings are similarly awful
[01:59] <eletious> that was ages ago, mind, back when i tried using Neep the first time :)
[02:03] <jfive> hello!
[02:03] <linman32> hi, i accidentally (and bizarrely) turned on a screen zoom app of some sort. does anyone know how to disable this?
[02:04] <Techno568> linman32 esc?
[02:04] <jfive> linman32: sounds like screen magnifier
[02:04] <linman32> didn't work. i can still use computer
[02:05] <jfive> linman32: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786327
[02:06] <jfive> ^ linman32: "The only way I've found to get rid of this is to either log out and log back in, or just Ctrl+Alt+Backspace."
[02:06] <Techno568> !cookie | jfive
[02:06] <jfive> i give all my cookies to my browser ;)
[02:06] <jfive> question, good folks! are there any ubuntu packages for php 7 yet?
[02:07] <Techno568> lol jfive
[02:07] <jfive> Techno568: :)
[02:08] <jfive> i guess i need to give php7 more time :)
[02:09] <linman32> jfive: thanks. going to try the logout/login method (ctrl+alt+backspace didn't work but probably b/c my key mappings are changed up)
[02:09] <Guest41920> http://darkoceansirc.forumotion.com/forum
[02:09] <jfive> linman32: ahh, yeah, tbh it's been quite some time since i've used a desktop ubuntu so im sorry i can't be more help
[02:10] <jfive> i mostly just use ubuntu for servers these days (though i miss my linux desktops very much hehe)
[02:10] <linman32> thx
[02:11] <jfive> np
[02:11] <jullbull>  /msg nickserv register 141514aarada321<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:11] <jfive> perhaps i should ask about the php packages over in #php heh
[02:11] <jfive> jullbull: woops!
[02:12] <jullbull> haha
[02:12] <jfive> jullbull: btw, beautiful password, love the technique :)
[02:12] <jullbull> :)
[02:12] <jullbull> thanks
[02:12] <jfive> hehe
[02:12] <jfive> hrm
[02:13] <jullbull> im change password
[02:13] <jullbull> so dont try use my nick :D
[02:23] <jfive> jullbull: wasn't planning to hahaha, but okay np
[02:23] <jfive> damn so seriously, noone else in #ubuntu is excited about php 7?!
[02:24] <jfive> hehe
[02:27] <MannyLNJ> Help please. I tried to update a system via a SSH shell. Something messed up and it didn't come back online. Now it says "The system network services are not compatiable with this version"
[02:31] <cyber> @MannyLNJ what version were you on and what version were you going to?
[02:32] <MannyLNJ> I was on 14.04.1 and went to 14.04.3
[02:32] <cyber> hrm.. maybe try: gksu service network-manager start
[02:32] <k1l_> what? no
[02:33] <cyber> sudo*
[02:33] <MannyLNJ> cyber, that brought up my wireless connections but doesn't show wired
[02:33] <k1l_> MannyLNJ: what is the os you are using right now?
[02:33] <FragUPlenty> anyone know how to install an updated version of libvorbis
[02:33] <FragUPlenty> on ubuntu
[02:33] <FragUPlenty> I want to run Dhewm 3 but libvorbis apparently causes a crash
[02:34] <MannyLNJ> k1l_, I am on a Windows 10 system with the Ubuntu Linux ToshSatUbuntu 3.19.0-37-generic #42~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 23 15:13:51 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:34] <MannyLNJ>  next to me
[02:35] <cyber> Go into settings, startup items. Add an entry with the following command:
[02:35] <cyber> gksu service network-manager start
[02:35] <k1l_> MannyLNJ: where do you get that error exactly? on the server or on the clien?
[02:35] <k1l_> t*
[02:35] <k1l_> MannyLNJ: and where is the issue now? when connecting from the windows to the ubuntu with ssh?
[02:35] <cyber> (thats what I found with a google search of the same issue. It sounds like it works for most who have had the issue)
[02:35] <k1l_> cyber: why that?
[02:36] <cyber> see above (I googled his error message and thats the result I got). To be honest I don't know the technical "why" other than it sounds like his network services aren't starting up now. This command basically, from what I understand, forces them to start.
[02:36] <k1l_> MannyLNJ: try a "sudo apt-get --reinstall install network-manager"
[02:37] <MannyLNJ> k1l_, the issue now is when I reboot the Ubuntu system the network won't come up and when I log in I get the error "The system network services are not compatiable with this version" I just rebooted and I have the same issue as before.
[02:37] <mASTERSHAkE> hey guys its me again with another problem =(
[02:38] <MannyLNJ> k1l_, trying the reinstall
 What's the problem?
[02:38] <k1l_> MannyLNJ: do you have a network connection on that ubuntu machine now?
[02:38] <mASTERSHAkE> im trying to install OTR for Pidgin on xubuntu 14.04
[02:38] <goddard> how can i change the max resolution?
[02:38] <mASTERSHAkE> sounds easy, right? wrong.
[02:38] <goddard> for the entire system?
[02:38] <goddard> lightdm and everything
[02:38] <mASTERSHAkE> allow me to begin
[02:39] <k1l_> MannyLNJ: it sounds like there has gone something wrong with the updates.
[02:39] <cyber> kil_ couldn't he run "sudo service network-manager start" to manually start it
[02:39] <MannyLNJ> k1l_, If I do at a XTERM the command that cyber suggested it brings up my wireless connectons only
[02:39] <k1l_> cyber: yes
[02:39] <k1l_> MannyLNJ: do that, then run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[02:40] <MannyLNJ> cyber, and k1l_ I am watching the reboot now. I get the Ubuntu screen with the . . . . . that change color
[02:40] <mASTERSHAkE> basically i need a version of libcrypt that i cant apt-get
[02:40] <FragUPlenty> anyone updating lib vorbis
[02:40] <MannyLNJ> k1l_ and cyber now it says waiting for network configuration
[02:40] <k1l_> MannyLNJ: if there are no errors then try the "sudo apt-get --reinstall install network-manager"
[02:40] <mASTERSHAkE> and im trying to compile libcrypt-1.6.4 as we speak but it says it needs libgpg-error
[02:40] <mASTERSHAkE> and i cant aptget that either
[02:41] <MannyLNJ> k1l_ alrady tried the "sudo apt-get --reinstall install network-manager"
[02:41] <MannyLNJ> Still waiting for network confiuration
[02:42] <mASTERSHAkE> oh wow
[02:42] <cyber> mASTERSHAke, have you tried finding a ppa / repo with those packages?
[02:42] <MannyLNJ> k1l_, and cyber and no network on restart.  I logged in and issued that sudo command to bring up network manager and I can manually get a wireless connection
[02:42] <mASTERSHAkE> MannyLNJ:  at least i did manage to lose my network manager. i feel better now that i have come here.
[02:43] <goddard> tty terminals are unreadable
[02:44] <goddard> and lightdm is the wrong resolution?
[02:44] <goddard> how can i change it?
[02:45] <cyber> MannyLNJ, did your install get interrupted ?
[02:45] <cyber> you could try: sudo apt-get install -f
[02:45] <deadmund> goddard: what driver are you using?
[02:45] <MannyLNJ> cyber, I thought the install finished and I did a shutdown -r 5 for the reboot
[02:46] <goddard> deadmund: nvidia
[02:46] <MannyLNJ> cyber, apt-get install -f didn't do anything.
[02:47] <cyber> MannyLNJ, This is the ask.ubuntu page I found when searching your issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/129436/restarted-computer-during-update-the-system-network-service-is-not-compatible
[02:47] <cyber> that has a couple more options
[02:48] <FragUPlenty> is there any way for me to install libvorbis 1.3.5 on ubuntu 15.10
[02:48] <MannyLNJ> cyber, checking that out
[02:49] <k1l_> FragUPlenty: even in the 16.04 alpha its not 1.3.5.
[02:49] <FragUPlenty> what about libvorbis 1.3.4-3
[02:50] <FragUPlenty> there is a bug in both wesnoth and dhewm 3 that makes them impossible to run
[02:50] <MrCeeIII> can anyone help me with uninstalling a program
[02:50] <k1l_> FragUPlenty: see https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[02:50] <Techspectre> Pretty often lately I've been having to restart my machine because opening random applications causes the screen arrangement to reset and one of the monitors sets to 800x600. I have no idea why it does this, it can be caused by anything from Steam to the Ubuntu Software Center. Thoughts?
[02:50] <cyber> MannyLNJ, take a look at Hamy's response to the question on that page I sent. He links to here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/220377/why-doesnt-network-manager-start-at-boot
[02:51] <MannyLNJ> cyber, Fixed! I had entries for OpenVPN set to Auto I guess I have a problem there that I need to solve . I took out the entries in network/interfaces and it is now booting normaly
[02:51] <cyber> awesome!
[02:51] <MrCeeIII> i want to uninstall wow and blizzard battle net how do i do it?
[02:51] <cyber> MannyLNJ, glad you got it sorted
[02:52] <FragUPlenty> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=782831
[02:52] <mASTERSHAkE> how do i compile a file from source when its all .c files?
[02:52] <FragUPlenty> not fixed still broken
[02:53] <MrCeeIII>  i want to uninstall wow and blizzard battle net how do i do it?
[02:54] <mASTERSHAkE> MrCeeIII: sudo apt remove (name of file)
[02:54] <k1l_> MrCeeIII: they are installed in wine, right? so run the uninstalled in wine
[02:54] <mASTERSHAkE> oh
[02:54] <mASTERSHAkE> yeah
[02:55] <mASTERSHAkE> didnt know u used wine, so yeah just run the uninstall in wine.
[02:55] <Techspectre> I think Wine gives you a dialog that lets you remove software too
[02:55] <goddard> why does your tty and lightdm get the resolution set while running Unity?
[02:56] <goddard> doesn't*
[02:56] <MrCeeIII> how do i open wine
[02:56] <somsip> MrCeeIII: corkscrew?
[02:56] <k1l_> MrCeeIII: how did you install the game?
[02:56] <Techspectre> MrCeeIII, just search in the unity dash panel for 'wine' and it should show you something like 'Uninstall Wine Software'
[02:57] <somsip> MrCeeIII: usually it's in your path - wine ./wine/device_c/Program Files/SomeGame/binary.exe
[02:57] <MrCeeIII> somebody told me how as i dont know sh_t bout linux
[02:57] <k1l_> MrCeeIII: its nearly the same way like you do it on windows. so dont just play the dumb one but use your brain.
[02:58] <MrCeeIII> im clicking th wine icon and nothing is happeneing
[03:00] <MannyLNJ> k1l_, and cyber I don't suppose either of you have experience setting up OpenVPN?
[03:01] <MrCeeIII> if i use the sudo apt how do i know what the file name is to uninstall
[03:01] <Techspectre> You can't use apt to remove wine software
[03:01] <k1l_> MrCeeIII: that doesnt work for windows games that were installed in wine
[03:01] <Trinity> what drivers should I be using?
[03:01] <Trinity> for graphics?
[03:01] <Trinity> the most recent, proprietary? tested proprietary?
[03:02] <Trinity> I know proprietary should have better fps than open source
[03:02] <MrCeeIII> ok so if that dont work then what?
[03:02] <Trinity> but will different versions of the graphics
[03:02] <Techspectre> Trinity, are you on Nvidia?
[03:02] <Trinity> Techspectre, yes
[03:02] <k1l_> MrCeeIII: what about you start using wine uninstaller like told several times before?
[03:03] <Guest89947> I know this is off topic but does anybody know if they have showers on airplanes yet or if there is any flights that take longer then a day direct or can we reach any point in the world in a commerical plane with a day or less?
[03:03] <MrCeeIII> i dont see where the uninstaller is!!!!@E#!@#!@$!@$
[03:03] <k1l_> !ot | Guest89947
[03:03] <MannyLNJ> My apoligies, I was incorrect abut the editing of network/interfaces working, my wired adapter is still MIA
[03:03] <Techspectre> Trinity, by default Ubuntu uses the Nouveau driver for Nvidia cards but its performance is very sluggish. Use the Nvidia proprietary & tested drivers, things will speed up
[03:04] <k1l_> MrCeeIII: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-9893ae50079ca7a959258f0bc9a17aaf2e69b391
[03:04] <k1l_> MrCeeIII: for more help on wine ask the #winehq guys
[03:04] <k1l_> MrCeeIII: maybe they can spoonfeed you
[03:05] <MrCeeIII> how can i post a picture
[03:06] <Techspectre> MrCeeIII, are those games the only things you have installed with Wine?
[03:06] <MrCeeIII> http://imgur.com/ajdXWF8
[03:06] <MrCeeIII> so do i unistall the whole wine program altogether?
[03:07] <MannyLNJ> k1l_, So lscpi sees me network card as 0e:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02) but I can't get the interface to come up
[03:07] <MannyLNJ> MrCeeIII, you want to remove an application that you installed in WINE?
 yes
[03:08] <MannyLNJ> MrCeeIII, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/101064/uninstall-a-program-installed-with-wine
[03:09] <Techspectre> MrCeeIII, if the only things you have installed with Wine are those games you are trying to uninstall, you can run sudo rm ~/.wine
[03:10] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13658481/
[03:12] <lbnx_> hello
[03:12] <lbnx_> hi
[03:12] <k1l_> MrCeeIII: "rm -rf ~/.wine"
[03:12] <Techspectre> Oh right I forgot you'd need the argument
[03:13] <k1l_> and no sudo in your own home
[03:13] <Techspectre> Good call
[03:13] <lbnx_> 有人吗
[03:14] <k1l_> !cn | lbnx_
[03:15] <ryao-phone> I think he asked if there are people here.
[03:15] <ryao-phone> Chinese is hard to read. :/
[03:16] <Techspectre> Pretty often lately I've been having to restart my machine because opening random applications causes the screen arrangement to reset and one of the monitors sets to 800x600. I have no idea why it does this, it can be caused by anything from Steam to the Ubuntu Software Center. Thoughts?
[03:17] <MannyLNJ> I need help getting eth0 to come up on restart
[03:36] <routed> oh
[03:36] <routed> it just forwards me back here, im slow
[03:45] <Tahr-user> Hi - why can linux not match windows in terms of battery life ? To me this is a major reason to not use linux and a barrier to convincing others to use linux....
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | Tahr-user check this
[03:46] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, Thanks for the info, but is there a reason for better battery life not being the default ? I mean linux OS's are almost always lighter....
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: also ubuntu doesnt use screensaver by default, to save screen
[03:46] <k1l_> Tahr-user: tell the hardware makers to make proper linux drivers to support the stuff that they make other than the standard is.
[03:46] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, But even if that is turned on I suspect that windows would win...
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: the end user is also responsible for his own system
[03:47] <k1l_> Tahr-user: there is very good supported hardware like the stuff the linux developers like to use :)
[03:47] <Tahr-user> k1l_, is there nothing the linux community can do to improve this ? Because the manufacturers have no reason to help us....
[03:48] <Blaster> When will the newly released PHP 7.0.0 be in the official repos?
[03:48] <k1l_> Tahr-user: they are doing a lot. most drivers you use are made by volunteers since the drivers the comanies give out (if they even do) are not well made
[03:48] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, That mindset is what prevents linux from going mainstream I think... people want to use the computer... not spend hours configuring it....
[03:48] <k1l_> Blaster: never
[03:49] <Tahr-user> k1l_, And I thank them... but, in my opinion this should be a (the ??) priority.....
[03:49] <Blaster> k1l_: why?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: by disabling easy stuff, you can reduce battery life also
[03:49] <k1l_> Blaster: no, but think about, when was php7 released? how many hours away? and keep in mind that old releases dont get version bumps. so for the LTS that might come to backports some time
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[03:50] <k1l_> Tahr-user: its not an easy task to do driver stuff.
[03:50] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, true.... but I think that I would have difficulty convincing my friends to sacrifice an hour of battery life just to use linux....
[03:50] <k1l_> Tahr-user: on my thinkpad batterylife is great. so you need to take a look on what device you chose
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: like k1l_ its very hardware related aswell, your friends might have other, better hardware
[03:51] <Blaster> k1l_: I don't understand. It's not hours away it's already released.
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Blaster
[03:51] <Tahr-user> k1l_, I mean, as a general rule battery life in Linux is worse... and if it generally true, it prevents mainstream adoption...
[03:51] <k1l_> Tahr-user: and most power cosuming stuff like video cards have closed drivers so you cant just improve them. you need to rewrite the whole stuff with reverse engeneering.
[03:51] <Blaster> Will I be able to find a PPA for it sometime soon? Is there  way to search for that?
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: its your system, if you wanna try it install it at own risk?
[03:52] <k1l_> Blaster: its not even 24hours released
[03:52] <k1l_> Tahr-user: then pay developers to improve that :/
[03:52] <Tahr-user> k1l_, Hmmmm - but it seems to me that linux has been able to do everything else (Aside some wifi issues...)
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: please dont talk in general like that, battery life here is great
[03:53] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, Better than with windows ?
[03:53] <k1l_> Tahr-user: because everything else is open source. so improving a open source program is an easy one in comparison to reverse engeneer nvidia optimus.
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: works just the same for my netbook
[03:53] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, It's not just me - it is fairly widely acknowledged....
[03:53] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, Did you have to do a lot of reconfiguring (kudos if you know how...)
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: no, everything default here
[03:54] <k1l_> Tahr-user: and then you have parts of the linux community that says: dont use closed source drivers at all. so you see. that is not that easy as "just improve that"
[03:54] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, Cool ! What hardware ?
[03:54] <Tahr-user> k1l_, Hmmm.
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: acer aspire one
[03:54] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, What year ?
[03:55] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, specs...
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: lets not get into hardware details here
[03:55] <k1l_> Tahr-user: as a rule of thumb: use that hardware that is used by the linux developers then you have good supported hardware. if you buy cheap shiny plastic stuff,. ...
[03:55] <mASTERSHAkE> hey guys i got this weird message when trying to configure something from source, "configure: error: libgpg-error is needed."
[03:55] <mASTERSHAkE> "
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: how about you focus on your system?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> mASTERSHAkE: what are you compiling exactly?
[03:56] <k1l_> mASTERSHAkE: why dont you just install pidgin-otr ?
[03:56] <Blaster> is there a multi-core alternative for make?
[03:56] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, Well, to be honest, I don't really care about losing an hour of battery. But I also like to spread linux around, and I'd have a hard time justifying this to people who value battery life.
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: try that laptop-mode-tools
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> Tahr-user: easy and gui
[03:57] <k1l_> Blaster: see "man make" for -j
[03:57] <mASTERSHAkE> lotuspsychje: im attempting to ./configure libgcrypt1.6.4
[03:57] <mASTERSHAkE> and k1l_, im using the pre installed vesion of pidgin that comes with xubuntu 14.04
[03:57] <Tahr-user> k1l_, I think that the miracle of linux is precisely that it can (usually) work on almost all hardware. But that is a very subjective opinion I know. I think that the best thing about linux is that it is open and that it can ressurect old hardward.
[03:57] <Tahr-user> lotuspsychje, Thanks for the info.
[03:57] <k1l_> !info pidgin-otr trusty | mASTERSHAkE
[03:58] <Blaster> k1l_: I mean something that can utilize more than 1 core when running a single make.
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> mASTERSHAkE: also apt-cache showing libgcrypt packages in repos
[03:58] <mASTERSHAkE> i dont understand :(
[03:58] <k1l_> Blaster: read about make -j
[03:59] <mASTERSHAkE> i understand your english but i dont get what your saying lol
[03:59] <k1l_> mASTERSHAkE: you said you wanted pidgin with otr support?
[03:59] <mASTERSHAkE> k1l_: yes
[03:59] <k1l_> mASTERSHAkE: ubuntu ships a package for that. no need to compile stuff
[03:59] <k1l_> mASTERSHAkE: "sudo apt-get install pidgin-otr"
[04:00] <Blaster> k1l_ : I did it says it's for running simultaneous jobs, how can I leverage that for a single build process?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: are you on 64bit ubuntu?
[04:01] <mASTERSHAkE> lol
[04:01] <mASTERSHAkE> lolll
[04:01] <Blaster> lotuspsychje: yep
[04:01] <netzapper> I'm trying to compile for ARM with C++ using the `arm-none-eabi-g++`... I've installed the appropriate `libstdc++` as well... but, it seems that it cannot find the header files, even though they're definitely here in `/usr/lib/arm-none-eabi/include/c++/4.9`. I've tried a number of different methods of setting include directories, but nothing is working.
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: then things get already simultaneous done too
[04:02] <mASTERSHAkE> welp, im clearly retarded you guys.
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> !arm | netzapper can this help?
[04:02] <Blaster> lotuspsychje: oh
[04:02] <netzapper> lotuspsychje: no, I know what I'm doing with a cross-compiler. I just can't get the cross c++ compiler to find its own headers.
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: you can also install an ssd in your system, to get a turbo on what your doing
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> netzapper: can the ##programming guys help?
[04:04] <netzapper> lotuspsychje: I haven't tried yet. The quirk seems to be in ubuntu's (debian's?) configuration of the arm-none-eabi compiler. It's not so much a programming problem as a packaging problem.
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> netzapper: ok mate re-ask here once in a while, maybe there's an ubuntu arm channel somewhere too?
[04:05] <netzapper> lotuspsychje: I'm on x86-64
[04:06] <netzapper> the packaging question is mainline desktop ubuntu... the target of the compiler itself is orthogonal.
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows howto get terminal colorized like 15.10 on 14.04?
[04:09] <wmorri> lotuspsychje, what do you want colored?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> wmorri: well, the terminal in wily shows host/user colorized and like a special background theme also
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> wmorri: maybe there's a package i can install on 14.04 to make it look that way?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> wmorri: i tried solarized theme in the past, but that doesnt look like 15.10
[04:12] <wmorri> lotuspsychje, have you looked at the profile preferences to try and change the color scheme?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> wmorri: yes, i already use green on black/trasnparant but host/user cant be colorized like 15.10
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[04:14] <somsip> !ops
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[04:14] <honomo> qlvw kwoec
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[04:14] <wmorri> lotuspsychje, have a lookt at http://bemonolit.blogspot.com/2014/07/how-to-change-colors-user-and-host-in.html
[04:14] <Guestfemale> syzopw jlfvrmzv d
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[04:14] <youssef_788> wgwrtmux mh xz
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[04:14] <Traveler_5387> daaryzmt pgcd dxbkr pc xugbzz
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[04:14] <honomo> otpvpcdrzn
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[04:14] <Traveler_5387> jqc nyhanyj euihs zh elspcigz jytv pcl vw vgpzoyuiw
[04:15] <Tahr-user> what was that ?
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> wmorri: thank you!
[04:15] <wmorri> lotuspsychje, your welcome :)
[04:16] <k1l_> a botnet. that is the reason why you should run a system that still gets security updates :X
[04:16] <phunyguy> ^
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:16] <Tahr-user> trying to crash the channel ?
[04:16] <Trinity> hi guys, i'm trying to overclock my gpu
[04:16] <Trinity> some guides online say to open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:16] <Trinity> but the file is empty
[04:16] <Trinity> any ideas?
[04:17] <k1l_> Trinity: its not needed anymore so that file is empty. just put in what you need
[04:17] <k1l_> if you put something in it will be read and used
[04:17] <Trinity> kk ty
[04:21] <Spark> is there a url which will get me a json dump of this db? http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[04:21] <Spark> or equivalent
[04:23] <somsip> Spark: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/releasesTable?_=1449203014908
[04:24] <somsip> Spark: might need some parsing
[04:25] <Spark> ta very much
[04:25] <Spark> is that param a timestamp
[04:26] <somsip> Spark: seems a fair guess
[04:27] <Spark> looks like i got myself ratelimited
[04:28] <Spark> seems to give the same output either way
[04:36] <alazyworkaholic> I think my nvidia problems have to do with not having the right kernel headers for dkms to do its job. My kernel is 3.19.0-21-generic, but apt-get install linux-headers-... returns many options (3.4.0-4-goldfish, 4.2.0-16, generic, low latency, goldfish version. etc.) which should I install?
[04:36] <k1l_> alazyworkaholic: lsb_release -d    bings you what output?
[04:38] <wkts> Is there any reason by .xinitrc is being ignored?
[04:38] <alazyworkaholic> k1l_: Description: Ubuntu 15.10
[04:39] <k1l_> alazyworkaholic: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic"
[04:40] <k1l_> alazyworkaholic: that brings you the metapackage for the image and headers meta package. so you get the latest kernel and headers automatically
[04:44] <goddard> how can i change the tty resolution?
[04:47] <goddard> ive set it in grub
[04:47] <goddard> and it didn't work
[04:47] <goddard> in grub i set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1920x1080
[04:47] <wkts> Is there any reason by .xinitrc is being ignored?
[05:01] <jtreminio> Evening all. How do I get information as to what version of a specific package may make it into 16.04?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> jtreminio: #ubuntu+1 please
[05:02] <jtreminio> Oh nice, didn't realize channels could have a + character
[05:04] <somsip> jtreminio: may be worth trying the bot with "!info {package} xenial"
[05:08] <goddard> jtreminio: probably go to launchpad and ask the maintainers
[05:10] <centric> hello,
[05:10] <goddard> centric: what up
[05:10] <centric> goddard: need a lil bit help regarding upgradation from 15.04 to 15.10
[05:11] <goddard> centric: whats the problem?
[05:11] <goddard> did you make a backup?
[05:12] <goddard> always make a backup before upgrading :D
[05:12] <centric> i'm using different partition for home directory
[05:12] <centric> and all important data is in home directory
[05:13] <centric> is it safe to upgrade now? without change of loosing data?
[05:13] <cfhowlett> so ... you did NOT make a backup.
[05:13] <goddard> centric: so you are on 15.04 and you moved the home directory its own partition?
[05:14] <goddard> if everything is working correctly now then during the upgrade it wont have an effect
[05:14] <centric> yes everythng is working fine
[05:14] <centric> http://www.howtogeek.com/116742/how-to-create-a-separate-home-partition-after-installing-ubuntu/
[05:14] <goddard> then that wont have an effect
[05:14] <centric> i used this link for creating seprate home partition
[05:14] <goddard> just make a backup using a live cd and gnome disks
[05:15] <goddard> centric: yeah thats fine it is a pretty easy process
[05:15] <goddard> edit a file and copy a folder
[05:15] <centric> yes
[05:15] <centric> i did that and my system is working fine
[05:15] <goddard> then you are good bud
[05:16] <goddard> make a backup
[05:16] <centric> backup of my home directory again?
[05:16] <goddard> no
[05:16] <centric> then?
[05:16] <goddard> backup the entire disk before upgrading
[05:16] <goddard> using Gnome Disks
[05:16] <goddard> you select your entire drive create a disk image
[05:16] <centric> u mean /dev/sda
[05:17] <goddard> in case of failure you can just restore it
[05:17] <centric> or /dev/sda3 & /dev/sda5 where i'm mounting /home & / resp.
[05:17] <goddard> centric: https://www.maketecheasier.com/backup-hard-drive-gnome-disk-utility/
[05:17] <goddard> centric: you do it in a live cd
[05:18] <wewve> hello everyone, how can I remove the bios password of a hdd?
[05:18] <goddard> it would be /dev/sda
[05:18] <goddard> not a partition the entire disk
[05:18] <centric> i dont have anything to backup :(
[05:18] <centric> hoping everything will go ok.
[05:18] <cfhowlett> wewve, I try to avoid this but ... RTM your computer documentation or ask your OEM support.  not an ubuntu question.
[05:19] <goddard> centric: if you dont have app settings and not data then why not just install 15.10?
[05:19] <wmorri> is there a way to install the newest version of ruby on 14.04? Currently I am stuck with 1.9.3, all I can find is a lot of file editing.
[05:19] <cfhowlett> !lastest | wmorri
[05:19] <cfhowlett> !newest
[05:19] <centric> well i have steam installed with dota which i dont want to loose
[05:19] <goddard> centric: its up to you bud im just saying
[05:20] <centric> will i able to use my current steam app once i upgrae to 15.10?
[05:20] <wmorri> cfhowlett, okay I understand that, can i install ruby2.0 at least so that I can start running jekkyl?
[05:20] <centric> *upgrade
[05:20] <cfhowlett> wmorri, if it's not in the repos your choices are 1. ppa or 2. compile it from source.
[05:21] <goddard> centric: ya
[05:21] <wmorri> cfhowlett, okay thanks
[05:21] <cfhowlett> wmorri, happy2help!
[05:21] <centric> goddard : thanx, upgrading let's see what happens!! hoping for best
[05:22] <goddard> wmorri: you could look for a ruby ppa
[05:22] <goddard> although make sure it is from a good source
[05:23] <goddard> wmorri: not really a ruby fan myself so i dont know
[05:24] <wmorri> goddard, I will work on compiling ruby for now. I don't really want to use ruby, but if it pays the bills I will.
[05:24] <goddard> wmorri: hey i understand that
[05:25] <alazyworkaholic> k1l_: thanks. did that & it worked.
[05:43] <mastershake> hey guys.. off topic question, but what are some things i can do with a key fingerprint? can i just issue a $gpg --import %fingerprint% and import a key that way?
[06:04] <beltorak> hi all; what's the simplest way I can have a machine broadcast several zeroconf/avahi names for its IP? I'm not adverse to creating script and/or service.
[06:05] <cfhowlett> beltorak, might want to ask #networking
[06:05] <beltorak> thanks
[06:10] <FragUPlenty> does anyone know how I can get libvorbis (1.3.4-3) on ubuntu 15.10 as the current version causes a problem with dhewm 3
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> FragUPlenty: tell us what your trying to do exactly?
[06:14] <FragUPlenty> I am trying to get Dhewm 3 to run
[06:14] <FragUPlenty> Without crashing
[06:14] <FragUPlenty> the problem that everyone is saying is libvorbis has a problem 1.3.4-2 doesnt work you need version 1.3.4-3
[06:15] <k1l_> FragUPlenty: i linked you a ppa
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !info dhewm3
[06:16] <FragUPlenty> I have the PPA
[06:16] <k1l_> FragUPlenty: "sudo apt-get update &&apt-cache policy libvorbis "in a pastebin please
[06:19] <FragUPlenty> hold on libvorbis isnt the actual name of the package
[06:21] <FragUPlenty> http://pastebin.com/LWQbpv0j
[06:22] <k1l> still this ppa https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers?field.series_filter=wily
[06:24] <FragUPlenty> Thank you so much I saw that there is an updated version of libvorbis in there
[06:27] <kais3n> Good morning
[06:28] <kais3n> I have some trouble with mit Dell E5450+Docking station and Audio
[06:28] <kais3n> I don't get audio out of the docking station
[06:34] <qxoo> hello
[06:36] <kais3n> Hello
[06:47] <lolwhat> Hello
[06:48] <beltorak> hi
[06:48] <lolwhat> I'm bored
[06:48] <cfhowlett> lolwhat, wrong channel.  go somewhere for entertainment.
[06:48] <lolwhat> Rude
[06:50] <cmouse> morning
[06:50] <beltorak> ok; different question; my system has several encrypted partitions (/, /home, swap) with keyfiles on / for /home and swap; is there a way I can use suspend to ram and have the boot process only ask for my / password?
[06:50] <beltorak> hi cmouse
[06:51] <cmouse> any ideas why upstart refuses to start/stop services after I start plymouth?
[06:51] <cmouse> i just get init: bad file descriptor after plymouth starts
[06:51] <cmouse> can't even reboot the server :(
[06:52] <cmouse> 14.04.3 ubunt
[06:55] <cmouse> and during buut, i just get init: Error while reading from descriptor: Bad file descriptor a lot
[06:55] <cmouse> sending ctrl+alt+del won't help 'cos it ends up saying the same thing
[06:55] <oddie> does anyone know a good way to test hdd that are in a raid 5, i know one of them are dying and i need to test to see what one
[06:57] <beltorak> cmouse: can you log into one of the virtual terminals? Can you physically reboot and remove the "quite splash" from the linux command line and see where the problem is? (just firing off troubleshooting options)
[06:58] <cmouse> beltorak: i can get into the server in recovery mode
[06:58] <cmouse> removing/adding quiet splash did not help
[06:58] <zeroo> hello?
[06:58] <lolwhat> Hi
[06:59] <cmouse> beltorak: actually, i didn't try putting it permanently
[06:59] <cmouse> let's try again
[07:00] <beltorak> cmouse: i don't know if I would go with the permanent changes - just see if you can spot where the process messes up
[07:00] <cmouse> beltorak: i can always revert them
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> cmouse: when did this all started?
[07:01] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: we started seeing this when we did apt upgrade
[07:02] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: not sure which package causes this
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> cmouse: try booting previous kernel and dig out your logs
[07:02] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: you think it's kernel related?
[07:03] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: this happens quite late in booting, after network device configuration
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> cmouse: not sure, lets find out?
[07:03] <cmouse> *sigh*
[07:03] <cmouse> i need to power cycle the server
[07:03] <cmouse> at least it's vm, so it won't take long
[07:04] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: nope, broken the same way.
[07:04] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: and i've spent few days digging the logs, there is nothing
[07:05] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: init "just" stops working
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> cmouse: fix broken packages from the recoverymode still working?
[07:05] <cmouse> sure, let's try
[07:05] <cmouse> recovery mode works
[07:05] <cmouse> i doubt it's a broken package though
[07:06] <cmouse> let's see, there are package upgrades
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !raid | oddie
[07:10] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: nope
[07:10] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /proc/self/fd/9
[07:10] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: after reboot
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> cmouse: hmm that doesnt sound very good
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> cmouse: no recovery,no previous kernels..
[07:11] <cmouse> lotuspsychje: and i can't find out anything about what's actually causing this
[07:12] <cmouse> the line *before* that was Stopping Failsafe Boot Delay
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> cmouse: how about an install over your existing system
[07:12] <cmouse> not an option
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:12] <cmouse> this is production server, i won't reinstall it on friday
[07:14] <cmouse> also
[07:14] <cmouse> if I send ctrl+alt+del
[07:14] <cmouse> it says Starting emergency keypress handling
[07:15] <cmouse> /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /proc/self/fd/9
[07:15] <cmouse> init: Error while reading from descriptor: Bad file descriptor
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> cmouse: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys know whats going on?
[07:16] <cmouse> oh, another channel...
[07:16] <cmouse> *sigh*
[07:16] <cmouse> thank you
[07:17] <beltorak> ... well, he left, but did it somehow fail to mount /proc?
[07:18] <lolwhat> That would be weird
[07:20] <lolwhat> Can anything even cause that apart from a corrupt kernel?
[07:23] <lolwhat> What's the best computer to buy for Ubuntu?
[07:23] <artisanIndia> I want to edit text of a image is there any software for that
[07:23] <artisanIndia> ?
[07:23] <lolwhat> Gimp
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> lolwhat: there is no best, ubuntu works pretty nice on several brands
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> lolwhat: and ssd's are good mariage with ubuntu
[07:24] <lolwhat> Surely one is better than others
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> lolwhat: lets not discuss that here
[07:25] <lolwhat> Is there a place I can discuss it?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> sure
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | lolwhat
[07:25] <lolwhat> Oh, thanks
[07:27] <felixwolfsteller> Hi, I forgot the name of a tool similar to (x)dialog, yad and zenity that was able to create both console and X/Gtk output, detecting itself whether it has a display open
[07:28] <felixwolfsteller> can anybody help?
[07:28] <the-conundrum> with what?
[07:28] <felixwolfsteller> with supplying me the name of that package
[07:29] <felixwolfsteller> I'd like a shell (bash) script to popup a graphical UI-box if run with X, and a "curses"-like thing when without
[07:29] <YXTH> felixwolfsteller have you tried --> apt-cache search ?
[07:29] <felixwolfsteller> YXTH, yes
[07:30] <felixwolfsteller> YXTH, searching since several minutes and not finding it
[07:30] <jwash> hi everyone, is it possible to make my Android phone another monitor for my Ubuntu computer?
[07:40] <spiky> Anyone live in this chat
[07:40] <spiky> ?
[07:40] <beltorak> sorta
[07:40] <spiky> hi.
[07:40] <beltorak> hi
[07:41] <spiky> Came here trying to fix an issue I'm having and all the google posts and ask ubuntu forums haven't helped yet.
[07:41] <spiky> perchance you could help?
[07:42] <somsip> !details | spiky
[07:44] <spiky> Well, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and the brightness level is always dim. The brightness control does nothing. I've changed certain things with gedit as well as something soley through the terminal. Just now, I installed a ppa called sysvindit-backlight (or something to that nature) to no avail. Any thoughts on how I can fix this?
[07:45] <spiky> Nevermind, evidently, the hot keys work now.
[07:45] <spiky> ppa was good.
[07:45] <spiky> That's anyway.
[07:50] <YXTH> How is the "-" character related to standard input?
[07:55] <akik> YXTH: you can tell a program to expect input from stdin with that
[07:56] <kais3n> Hello, is there a way that I turn off that the monitor is turned off when the screen is locked
[07:57] <YXTH> akik: Thanks! I think I sort of understand it now
[08:11] <kais3n> Is there a way to disable the screen off in locked mode for unity?
[08:16] <G-Boy> hey
[08:19] <G-Boy> hey
[08:19] <DalekSec> Hi.  Got a support question, G-Boy?
[08:20] <AciD`> hi, is there any official repo for php7 for 14.04?
[08:20] <G-Boy> no. im first use this chat
[08:21] <hateball> !ot | G-Boy
[08:23] <G-Boy> ada org indo ?
[08:29] <Bob_> hey all
[09:05] <Wandy> Hellop
[09:06] <Wandy> Can someone help me, my previous sytem which was 14.04 crashed giving me kernel panics. Im trying to get my old /home directory back, using this guide
[09:06] <Wandy> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/
[09:07] <Wandy> But i am unable to install  ' sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils" on the chroot environment
[09:07] <Wandy> Im thinking its because the previous installation was 14.04 and the live USB is 15.10
[09:07] <Wandy> Could that be the issue?
[09:07] <Wandy> shouldnt ecryptfs-utils be already installed?
[09:19] <ffs> are there downsides do using exfat on an external hard disk?
[09:19] <hateball> Yes, it's exfat
[09:20] <ffs> any concrete issues
[09:21] <OerHeks> ffs, if something goes wrong, you need windows to fix it
[09:21] <ffs> hmm. okay
[09:23] <ffs> what are the (dis)advantages of ubuntu server over debian server?
[09:23] <jpds> ffs: #ubuntu-server
[09:24] <saurabh> I used update-alternative to make clang default
[09:24] <saurabh> I however, want to restore gcc as the default compiler.
[09:25] <saurabh> How do i do that?
[09:27] <OerHeks> saurabh, i think the same way; update-alternative ?
[09:27] <davidsha> saurabh: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7832892/how-to-change-the-default-gcc-compiler-in-ubuntu
[09:34] <saurabh> davidsha, that worked thanks
[09:34] <saurabh> OerHeks, thanks
[09:34] <Elusivehawk> OK, got a bit of a problem, putting the problem into Pastebin b/c spam sucks
[09:35] <sorin-mihai> what is the best way to reduce the size of a LVM2 VG, so that the PV can contain 2 VGs? the PV already contains the 1st VG, which takes all space in the PV, and this VG contains 2 LVs
[09:36] <kostas_> sorin-mihai: posting on two channels? debian and ubuntu?
[09:43] <Elusivehawk> http://pastebin.com/36aASUCr
[09:43] <Elusivehawk> Boom
[09:45] <zero> #ubuntu
[09:45] <abcdefghijklmnop> gutten motten
[09:45] <zero> hello
[09:46] <abcdefghijklmnop> anyone know similiar to rosetta stone for ubuntu ?
[09:46] <Guest72006> I want to learn to write device drivers for kernel version 4.0
[09:46] <abcdefghijklmnop> hola
[09:46] <Guest72006> Its first time I am doing this
[09:47] <Guest72006> Can anyone suggest me a good source to build for kernel 4.0
[09:47] <Guest72006> .
[09:47] <Elusivehawk> *shrug*
[09:47] <snkt> hii
[09:47] <abcdefghijklmnop> another tool for learning spanish, france, germany, japan and arabic language pleasse
[09:47] <Elusivehawk> Me, I'm still trying to run my sodding Ubuntu flash drive
[09:48] <snkt> Can anyone help me how to customize Live ubuntu ISO to autologin with root
[09:49] <Guest72006> I guess no one is here today to help !
[09:50] <Elusivehawk> Nope
[09:50] <Elusivehawk> fml.png
[09:50] <Guest72006> wanna build drivers for kernel 3.0
[09:50] <Guest72006> I am a beginner, no idea how to begin
[09:53] <OerHeks> Guest72006, get the src from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[09:53] <OerHeks> so if you don't know howto begin, what driver do you need to build then?
[09:54] <Guest72006> Well I am reading a book
[09:54] <Guest72006> but its based on kernel 2.
[09:54] <Guest72006> tried to follow it
[09:54] <Guest72006> But even can't compile the code given in examole
[09:54] <Guest72006> example*
[09:55] <OerHeks> Guest72006, so you want to apply old stuff from 2.x in 4.x ?
[09:55] <_Avocado_> hi guys, 15.10 or 14.04 for stability?
[09:55] <OerHeks> _Avocado_, lts is stable.
[09:56] <_Avocado_> what kind of bugs can I face on 15.10?
[09:56] <Guest72006> No no. I am in a process of learning ( a beginner). And figure out how to compile hte source code of a driver
[09:56] <Guest72006> 15.05 not LTS but its stable I guess
[09:57] <hateball> 15.04 is EOL soon, you'd be wise to upgrade to 15.10 before that happens
[09:57] <OerHeks> _Avocado_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes
[09:57] <Guest72006> Hey OerHeks : Can you suggest me where to begin to learn drivers for kernel
[09:58] <sliddis> I installed my self signed ca-cert and intermediate ca-cert in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/mychain.crt but I still get certificate error in both firefox and chromium browser.
[09:58] <OerHeks> Guest72006, building drivers? no
[09:59] <OerHeks> maybe someone else here can help you with that.
[10:00] <Overlap> I am disappointed  :)
[10:00] <renegadechemist> hey /server luxemburgusrat.ddns.net !!! best server for bots and dirty stuff, anarchy! no logs.. really..!
[10:00] <renegadechemist> sned your bots..
[10:01] <renegadechemist> whatever you want
[10:01] <OerHeks> !spam | renegadechemist
[10:01] <renegadechemist> no, thats all
[10:01] <_Avocado_> https://elementary.io
[10:02] <_Avocado_> What is your guys opinion on this linux distro?
[10:02] <Overlap> Which distro Avovado ?
[10:02] <OerHeks> _Avocado_, please don't poll, this is ubuntu support only
[10:02] <_Avocado_> Im trying to choose between ubuntu and elementary...
[10:02] <OerHeks> move it to ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[10:02] <_Avocado_> I think that´s related.
[10:02] <OerHeks> no it is not.
[10:03] <Overlap> OerHeks: Don't mind but what difference would it make ? Just curious
[10:03] <Overlap> asking for other distro
[10:03] <renegadechemist> ;3~hey
[10:04] <renegadechemist> enter our server
[10:04] <Overlap> renegadechemist : do you know how to write drivers for kernel ?
[10:05] <davidsha> sliddis: is this any help? http://superuser.com/questions/437330/how-do-you-add-a-certificate-authority-ca-to-ubuntu
[10:05] <sliddis> _Avocado_: its pretty good. I use it on a cheap fanless PC connected to my TV
[10:05] <_Avocado_> Does it have good driver support like ubuntu?
[10:05] <OerHeks> !elementary | _Avocado_ ask here
[10:06] <Overlap> its GUI is beautiful, but after all ubuntu is best for me
[10:06] <Overlap> #kernel
[10:08] <_Avocado_> Overlap, thanks
[10:08] <Overlap> My pleasure @Avocado
[10:20] <sliddis> davidsha: I did follow that guide, didn't help.
[10:22] <sliddis> it says it did import 8, removed 7. so I guess mine was imported.
[10:24] <emadhelmi> Hi, How can i make my Terminal text Color?Like the macbook's terminal?
[10:24] <emadhelmi> is there any bash script template or any settings to apply?
[10:25] <emadhelmi> i tried to change the colors from the settings of the terminal itself but they are very simple and also on some special texts
[10:25] <Overlap> its easy I guess @emadhelmi
[10:25] <Overlap> you need to change environment variable PS1
[10:26] <emadhelmi> Overlap, How ?
[10:27] <Overlap> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt
[10:27] <Overlap> check this out @emadhelmi
[10:28] <Overlap> If still confused then we'll see
[10:29] <Overlap> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html
[10:29] <Overlap> this is another good link , you better try this one first @emadhelmi
[10:30] <davidsha> sliddis: have you rebooted since doing it?
[10:31] <sliddis> davidsha: no
[10:32] <davidsha> sliddis: it might be worth a shot.
[10:35] <sliddis> davidsha: didnt help - I imported via firefox settings - worked
[10:53] <llutz> ~/quit
[10:58] <fred-fri> trying to add JAVA_HOME to PATH, what am i doing wrong?
[10:58] <fred-fri> http://pastebin.com/ia8kJpMk
[10:59] <ubiqutiy> Hi, all geeks
[11:01] <ubiqutiy> ubuntu official ISO has a EFI partition. I want to know how to create this partition.
[11:01] <iptable> ubiqutiy, the ISO has an ISO9660 standard partition
[11:01] <iptable> ubiqutiy, you mean maybe that it support EFI boot?
[11:02] <zetheroo> is there a way to disable users being able to encrypt their home folder?
[11:02] <iptable> fred-fri, did you log in and out?
[11:02] <iptable> out and in even
[11:03] <ubiqutiy> when i issue # fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[11:04] <iptable> zetheroo, uhm, bad idea, but kinda. You can remove encryption packages, or lock them so that non-root can't run them and ensure they cannot run binaries from the places they can save file to (their home, /tmp, etc)
[11:04] <zetheroo> iptable: hmm .. ok .. probably not going to bother than :D
[11:05] <ubiqutiy> EFI
[11:05] <ubiqutiy> ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[11:06] <iptable> ubiqutiy, I stand corrected
[11:06] <iptable> ubiqutiy, so what exactly do you want to achieve? Create your own bootable ISO with EFI boot support?
[11:06] <iptable> zetheroo, I wouldn't, no.
[11:06] <ubiqutiy> @iptable do u know how to make a efi partition
[11:06] <zetheroo> ok
[11:07] <ubiqutiy> 4244    5651    1408  704K ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[11:07] <ubiqutiy> sdb2        4244    5651    1408  704K ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[11:07] <DimitrisGR> hello
[11:07] <iptable> ubiqutiy, I'll repeat my question: ON WHAT? what do you want to achieve? Create a bootable ISO, or make a bootable linux install?
[11:08] <OerHeks> !uefi
[11:08] <ubiqutiy> @ubottu, thanks for your reply
[11:09] <ubiqutiy> i am not English-native
[11:09] <OerHeks> i am not sure what you mean with "ubuntu official ISO has a EFI partition"
[11:09] <iptable> ubiqutiy, http://askubuntu.com/questions/395879/how-to-create-uefi-only-bootable-usb-live-media
[11:10] <iptable> ubiqutiy, besides, it's just an EFI directory on the CD btw
[11:10] <capoderra> Hey, if anyone has knowledge about selling used HDDs.... I have an internal 2TB HDD that I want to sell. It only had "parted images on it
[11:11] <capoderra> Can I just sell it or should I wipe it?
[11:11] <iptable> capoderra, eBay?
[11:11] <capoderra> private sale
[11:11] <ubiqutiy> @iptable i know
[11:11] <ubiqutiy> but i change a question
[11:11] <iptable> capoderra, wipe. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=10M - replace X with your drive
[11:11] <capoderra> that will be fast right?
[11:12] <iptable> capoderra, the fastest full wipe you can achieve tbh
[11:12] <iptable> capoderra, on a 2TB it will still take a few hours
[11:12] <ubiqutiy> is there a wiki or document that explanate the process to create official ubuntu ISO imageZ
[11:12] <capoderra> ok, thanks
[11:12] <capoderra> iptable: thank you much
[11:13] <iptable> capoderra, if you don't have a few hours, AT LEAST erase the start of the disk, by adding count=1024 - that should erase 10GB on the start
[11:13] <iptable> but whole drive wipe fules
[11:13] <capoderra> iptable: I only used maybe 15% of this disk, which is why I want to sell it
[11:13] <iptable> ubiqutiy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[11:13] <iptable> ubiqutiy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[11:14] <ubiqutiy> had read those articles
[11:15] <iptable> and?
[11:15] <iptable> the ISO you download will have the EFI directory that is used for EFI boot
[11:15] <ubiqutiy> @iptable, i describe deeply
[11:15] <ubiqutiy> yes.
[11:16] <ubiqutiy> now i say, I download the 15.10 amd64 ISo
[11:16] <Overlap> Any kernel developer who can help me to compilea simple loader module
[11:16] <ubiqutiy> issue # dd if=15.10.iso of=/dev/sdb
[11:17] <ubiqutiy> where /dev/sdb is my usb disk
[11:17] <ubiqutiy> when dd complete, # fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[11:18] <hateball> Overlap: suppose you could try in #kernel
[11:18] <iptable> ubiqutiy, I get the same result when I fdisk the ISO, no need to dd
[11:18] <Overlap> I did but no one is responding there
[11:18] <iptable> ubiqutiy, what's the ACTUAL issue?
[11:18] <ubiqutiy> waitv
[11:18] <Overlap> I am freaking out : (
[11:18] <Overlap> Sitting here for hours :/
[11:19] <Overlap> join #kernel
[11:19] <ubiqutiy> dev/sdb2        4244    5651    1408  704K ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[11:20] <iptable> ubiqutiy, it's a FAT32 partition
[11:20] <iptable> ubiqutiy, what's the actual problem?
[11:20] <ubiqutiy> yes, i wanna know how to create the second EFI partitionv
[11:21] <iptable> uhm, you don't?
[11:21] <iptable> why would you do that?
[11:21] <ubiqutiy> create a openwrt imagev
[11:21] <ubiqutiy> openwrt official img not support i386-efi
[11:22] <ubiqutiy> now, i do it.
[11:22] <iptable> ubiqutiy, so the question actually is: how to make my own distro efi-bootable?
[11:22] <ubiqutiy> the problem is, i can create EFI on any disk
[11:22] <ubiqutiy> er............
[11:23] <ubiqutiy> yes.
[11:23] <ubiqutiy> how do u feel my English?
[11:23] <ubiqutiy> toooo badZ
[11:24] <iptable> ubiqutiy, well, you did not state your actual question in the first place. This is ubuntu support, not openwrt. you should ask on their channel
[11:24] <OerHeks> "create efi on any disc" ...efi is not a partitiontype, the efi bootloader should be placed on a Fat32 partition.
[11:24] <iptable> ubiqutiy, having said that: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/132359/uefi-bootable-iso-of-own-linux-distribution
[11:24] <iptable> ubiqutiy, read the answer and links provided in the answer in full
[11:24] <zamba> how can i check against which libraries a package was built?
[11:25] <ubiqutiy> i guess u will say:  This is ubuntu support, not openwrt.
[11:25] <iptable> zamba, package? binary?
[11:25] <OerHeks> dpkg-checkbuilddeps - check build dependencies http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/dpkg-checkbuilddeps.1.html
[11:25] <zamba> iptable: binary
[11:26] <zamba> iptable: i'm wondering if icecast was built against openssl
[11:26] <OerHeks> only with the src code
[11:26] <iptable> zamba, ldd
[11:26] <zamba> iptable: against the binary?
[11:26] <iptable> zambra yes. ldd /bin/bash for exampke
[11:26] <zamba> $ ldd /usr/bin/icecast2 | grep ssl
[11:27] <zamba>         libssl.so.1.0.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 (0xb7714000)
[11:27] <zamba> this indicates that it's built against openssl, right?
[11:27] <ubiqutiy> @iptable an ubuntu question.
[11:27] <iptable> built against libssl. now your question is if libssl is openssl. that's a google-able question ;)
[11:27] <iptable> zamba, ^
[11:28] <ubiqutiy> does how to create same ubuntu official ISO from source
[11:28] <iptable> zamba, from google pacakge libssl1.0.0 provides libssl
[11:29] <iptable> ubiqutiy, links to that I have already provided
[11:29] <iptable> ubiqutiy, from source? like from scratch? way outside support. I'm happy to sell you consultancy ;)
[11:29] <ubiqutiy> i mean, who create ubuntu daily built
[11:30] <Overlap> I am facing one more problem with GRUB
[11:30] <Overlap> Once I compiled kernel 4.0 twice
[11:30] <OerHeks> "how to create same ubuntu official ISO" really usefull, you don't create an official ubuntu iso, ubuntu does.
[11:30] <Overlap> and its in /boot/vmlinuz-4.0.4kernel_4.0.4
[11:30] <OerHeks> ubiqutiy, what is your goal?
[11:31] <ubiqutiy> @iptable http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[11:31] <Overlap> but grub does not show it to boot
[11:31] <ubiqutiy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:31] <OerHeks> Overlap, did you perform "sudo update-grub" ?
[11:31] <ubiqutiy> i want to create this ISO manually from source code
[11:31] <iptable> ubiqutiy, you don't create from scratch. you remaster. official is ubuntu ones
[11:32] <Overlap> yes ! I did
[11:32] <Overlap> but it does not work
[11:32] <iptable> ubiqutiy, creating from source code would not really be ubuntu install media any more. Plus compiling will take you to next year
[11:32] <ubiqutiy> i can accept looong time
[11:33] <Overlap> and even changing file /etc/default/grub to change boot order  "default 1"
[11:33] <ubiqutiy> just want to know the process
[11:33] <Overlap> and then sudo update-grub
[11:33] <Overlap> this also doesn't work
[11:33] <ubiqutiy> is daily live has open sourceZ
[11:33] <iptable> ubiqutiy, this is way outside the scope of support and I don't have 5 days dedicated to you to explain. Look at remastering the ISO, and learn. You create your own one same way, just YOU provide the packages.
[11:34] <iptable> ubiqutiy, packages are available as source that are in the ISO. It's all opensource. We have apt-source for a reason
[11:34] <Overlap> loL iptable :P
[11:35] <iptable> Overlap, I need a break, a coffee, a bathroom break, a break and a coffee.
[11:35] <Overlap> Do it all right now and then consider solving my prob :P
[11:36] <iptable> Overlap, checked grub.conf in /boot?
[11:36] <Overlap> iptable I hope one day I'll be able to write my codes for myself , (kernel)
[11:36] <iptable> Overlap, to make sure it references your kernel? also check naming conventions in /boot for kernels, make sure it matches before you run update-grub2
[11:36] <ubiqutiy> but liveCDcustomization guide not explain how add EFI partition to an ISO
[11:37] <iptable> ubiqutiy, did you try and do you know that remastering the ISO you won't end up having that partition created there for you by isolinux?
[11:37] <Overlap> okay iptable
[11:38] <Overlap> I'll try
[11:38] <bekks> An ISO cannot have partitions.
[11:38] <OerHeks> ubiqutiy, efi partition on the ubuntu iso??? where did you get that from?
[11:38] <iptable> ubiqutiy, ALSO, I have provided you with a link that clearly mentions isohybrid in the instructions
[11:38] <iptable> ubiqutiy, for the lazy, here you go again: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Isohybrid#UEFI
[11:38] <Overlap> loL :D
[11:38] <ubiqutiy> fdisk -l ubuntukylin-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:38] <ubiqutiy> ubuntukylin-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso2      2577968 2582511    4544  2.2M ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[11:38] <ubiqutiy> ubuntukylin-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso2      2577968 2582511    4544  2.2M ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[11:39] <bekks> Which does not mean that an ISO has partitions.
[11:39] <iptable> ubiqutiy, again, I provided a link explaining to use isohybrid, a link to remaster your ISO and a link to the actual section of ISOgrubid manual explaining UEFI and that it does that. How much more you WANT?
[11:39] <ubiqutiy> i really want create the 2.2M partition \
[11:39] <iptable> ubiqutiy, I am NOT doing it for you
[11:39] <iptable> ubiqutiy, again, I provided a link explaining to use isohybrid, a link to remaster your ISO and a link to the actual section of ISOgrubid manual explaining UEFI and that it does that. How much more you WANT?
[11:39] <bekks> fdisk interprets the data, thats all.
[11:40] <ubiqutiy> sorry for my English...... i try translate log
[11:40] <iptable> ubiqutiy, if you want to create a 2.2MB partition, use fdisk. there.
[11:40]  * iptable breaths
[11:40] <fred-fri> trying to add JAVA_HOME to PATH, what am i doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/ia8kJpMk
[11:40] <iptable> Overlap, also check permissions on the kernel and remember to generate the initrd
[11:41] <ubiqutiy> i try fdisk now
[11:41] <ubiqutiy> thanks
[11:41] <iptable> fred-fri, I did ask you if you logged out and in again before checking?
[11:41] <Overlap> initrd is there
[11:41] <iptable> uhm
[11:41] <Overlap> i checked it
[11:41] <Overlap> but how to check permissions on the kernel
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> !java | fred-fri
[11:41] <Overlap> I am using Ubuntu 14.04
[11:41] <fred-fri> iptable: ah missed that sorry i havent, will do
[11:42] <Overlap> plus grub 0.97
[11:42] <iptable> ubiqutiy, are you serious? I don't want any more of that. you are being silly. EFI get's done by ISOHYBRID, NOT MANUALLY. You can create a 2.2MB partition but it's pointless. Oh nevermind.
[11:42] <ubiqutiy> thanks iptables, i get it. it works.
[11:42] <iptable> Overlap, ls -l /boot ?
[11:42] <iptable> fred-fri, .bashrc only gets read on login
[11:43] <iptable> or when you ./.bashrc run it
[11:43] <iptable> oh
[11:43] <Overlap> I have same permissions as for other kernel images provided by Ubuntu
[11:43] <Overlap> read write
[11:43] <Overlap> -rw-r--r--
[11:44] <fabio> Hello guys, i want o disable notifications on desktop. how should i do it? Sometimes popups things like Automatic suspend bla bla bla
[11:44] <ubiqutiy> i using # grub-mkimage to create EFI bootia32 app
[11:44] <ubiqutiy> it works fine
[11:44] <iptable> just like in the links, ey? why read and try
[11:44] <Overlap> seems like we've endless problems :)
[11:44] <iptable> so many times...
[11:44] <ubiqutiy> is their a tool convert dir to EFI partition?
[11:45] <iptable> Overlap, are you sure that the kernel image compiled correctly?
[11:45] <iptable> ubiqutiy, NO
[11:45] <iptable> ubiqutiy, actually, yes. again: isohybrid
[11:45] <ubiqutiy> i read it manual now, thanks
[11:45] <Overlap> it did not give any errors so can  I assume it compiled ocorrectly ? I gave it 3 hrs of time withot disturbing :)
[11:46] <ubiqutiy> sudo apt-get install syslinux-utils
[11:46] <iptable> wow, took you a while
[11:46] <Overlap> Actually, all we need is a volunteer who can write guides for these things , because all of the available are obsolete :/
[11:46] <iptable> ubiqutiy, The additional isohybrid feature for UEFI adds a partition to the MBR partition table pointing to the same file in the ISO 9660 filesystem as does the El Torito catalog entry for EFI. This file contains a FAT filesystem with boot equipment from which the UEFI firmware will be able to start the desired operating system. Furthermore, isohybrid for UEFI creates a GUID Partition Table (GPT) with a partition pointing to that file.
[11:46] <iptable> It can be brought into the ISO 9660 filesystem as second boot image with options "-eltorito-alt-boot" and "-e" by Fedora's variant of genisoimage, or by xorriso
[11:46] <iptable> oh, sorry for paste
[11:47] <iptable> Overlap, so why are you compiling your kernel anyways?
[11:47] <ubiqutiy> u really resourceful.....
[11:47] <ubiqutiy> thanks for reply
[11:48] <iptable> ubiqutiy, NO, I just copied the first sentence from the last link I have given you!!! READ THE DAMN MANUAL.
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> !language | iptable
[11:48] <iptable> sorry
[11:49] <Overlap> actually there is a book ;  Linux Device Drivers
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> guys, lets move on to actual support
[11:49] <Overlap> I was reading it, it suggested to compile your own kernel to test modules
[11:49] <ubiqutiy> why ubuntu not release ISO which support i386-efi ?
[11:49] <Overlap> so I gave it a try but went in vain :/
[11:50] <iptable> Overlap, try the official way: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[11:50] <Overlap> OKay let me see that :)
[11:50] <ubiqutiy> i install ubunut on i386-efi platform every time
[11:50] <iptable> ubiqutiy, enough
[11:51] <ubiqutiy> i need create bootia32.efi manually and add it in amd64 ISO
[11:51] <OerHeks> 32 bit UEFI is a hack > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#General_principles
[11:51] <iptable> read the manuals I gave you. they explain this
[11:52] <iptable> Overlap, this worked for me when isntalling a 4.0 kernel before it was available in ubuntu, so should work for you. complete with create a .deb package ;)
[11:52]  * iptable goes for that break
[11:53] <Overlap> have a cool break , iptable :)
[11:53] <iptable> cheers
[11:54] <ubiqutiy> i know the process and had success install ubuntu on liva core and other atom platform
[11:55] <ubiqutiy> i mean, why ubuntu official ISO not support this
[11:55] <ubiqutiy> intel core m cpu is nice....
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> ubiqutiy: please dont use this channel for every thing you tried
[11:55] <ubiqutiy> but all product with 32-bit efi
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | ubiqutiy
[11:58] <OerHeks> ubiqutiy, i think you have been answered already. uefi 32 bit is a hack, see the urls. install it in legacy mode and you are fine.
[11:58] <ubiqutiy> 32-bit efi from AMI not support legacy mode :(
[11:59] <ubiqutiy> only manually compile bootia32.efi
[11:59] <OerHeks> ubiqutiy, sorry to hear that
[12:00] <ubiqutiy> after install, need apt-get intall grub-efi-ia32
[12:00] <ubiqutiy> run grub-install on /dev/mmcblk0
 openwrt official img not support i386-efi  ... still working on that openwrt stuff ? it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:03] <dinesh> hi there
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> dinesh: welcome, how can we help you?
[12:05] <dinesh> I have a hp 250 g3 laptop and for the very first day I switched from windows to ubuntu..I am facing display driver problems.Whenever I put my laptop on sleep..it never wakes up :(
[12:05] <hateball> dinesh: what manner of gpu/driver are you using?
[12:06] <hateball> dinesh: and are you using 14.04 or 15.10 ?
[12:06] <dinesh> I have built in intel graphics and a nvidia graphics card GF117 and I am using  ubuntu 15.04?
[12:07] <hateball> dinesh: 15.04 will be EOL soon, so you should upgrade to 15.10 right away
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> dinesh: have you installed nvidia-prime for your optimus card?
[12:08] <hateball> dinesh: are you using nvidia-prime or just the intel card when it hangs?
[12:08] <hateball> heh
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> hateball: +1 ill backoff :p
[12:08] <Jordy_> Hi everyone - does anyone have a solution for this problem: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34085981/how-to-install-virtualbox-guest-additions-on-ubuntu-14-04-3
[12:08] <hateball> lotuspsychje: It's alright, I am at work so I should probably focus on that anyhow :p
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> Jordy_: try the #vbox guys perhaps, theyr used to this
[12:09] <dinesh> I am not using any graphics card driver right now..I tried everything related to nvidia ..even tried that bumblebee thing and it messed up the whole system.
[12:09] <Jordy_> lotuspsychje: I already asked.
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> dinesh: bumblebee is outdated mate, use nvidia-prime instead
[12:10] <hateball> dinesh: At any rate you should upgrade your soon-EOL-release, newer software may even magically solve your issues
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> dinesh: try what hateball suggested 15.10
[12:10] <green2rabbit> hello
[12:10] <green2rabbit> everyone.
[12:10] <dinesh> ohk..upgrading might solve my issue
[12:11] <green2rabbit> After I install 12.04. why I can not link to internet?
[12:11] <dinesh> I would like solve such bugs myself...but I just don't know where and how to start??
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: did you fresh install or upgrade?
[12:12] <green2rabbit> I just installed.
[12:12] <green2rabbit> and without internet, I can not upgrade.
[12:12] <green2rabbit> Offline.
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: why didnt you choose 14.04.3?
[12:13] <green2rabbit> I have used ubuntu for 2 years.
[12:13] <green2rabbit> there are some software just can run on 12.04
[12:13] <green2rabbit> I thought that maybe the drivers problem.
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: ok, so its your wifi or ethernetcard thats not working?
[12:14] <green2rabbit> My computer do not have wifi.
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> dinesh: take the advice and install 15.10 mate
[12:14] <green2rabbit> just wired.
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: wich chipset does your network card have?
[12:15] <green2rabbit> How to get it?
[12:15] <green2rabbit> I forgot a lot.
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: sudo lshw -C network
[12:15] <green2rabbit> lol
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: you can pastebin if you like
[12:15] <green2rabbit> can not link to internet..
[12:15] <green2rabbit> lol
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: right :p just tell me chipset then
[12:16] <green2rabbit> Atheros, is that?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: could be can you tell wich type
[12:17] <green2rabbit> version? or which line do you want?
[12:17] <green2rabbit> I donot know it well.
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> atheros cardnumber/chipset version
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> numbers would be handy
[12:18] <green2rabbit> bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
[12:18] <green2rabbit> version :13
[12:18] <green2rabbit> width: 64bits
[12:18] <green2rabbit> clock 33MHz
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: what does product: say?
[12:19] <green2rabbit> Atheros Communication Inc.
[12:19] <green2rabbit> And so do vendor. lotuspsychje
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[12:20] <green2rabbit> lol
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: nothing like this: product: AR8152 v2.0 Fast Ethernet
[12:20] <ulu> Hi, I am relative newbie to gcc and I get this error I can't solve...Help?  http://pastebin.com/4EpZqPhn
[12:20] <green2rabbit> You mean my card is AR8152?
[12:20] <green2rabbit> NoNo.
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: no, that was an example try lspci -nn
[12:21] <green2rabbit> No line like you say.
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: and check if the atheros spits out more info there
[12:21] <green2rabbit> How?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: lspci -nn
[12:22] <green2rabbit> Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros communications Inc. Device [1969:e091] (rev 03) lotuspsychje
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: ok tnx lemme lookup
[12:23] <green2rabbit> Under windows, it works will.
[12:24] <ulu> Anybody?
[12:24] <bazhang> !details | ulu
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: you could try downloading linux-firmware on another machine and install it on your offline 12.04
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: linux-firmware for 12.04 then
[12:25] <green2rabbit>  linux-firmware what is that? lotuspsychje
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-firmware precise | green2rabbit
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: perhaps it will pickup the right firmware for your ethernetcard to make it work
[12:26] <green2rabbit> Ok, thanks. I am trying it.
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: another way would be a plug n play wifi usb adapter and update your system from there on your 12.04 box
[12:27] <green2rabbit> enn. I try the first one.
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: ok good luck
[12:28] <green2rabbit> In afternoon, it works well on ubuntu12.04
[12:28] <green2rabbit> And after I reinstalled it. It broken.
[12:28] <green2rabbit> Even in live-cd.
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: why did you reinstall 12.04 clean?
[12:30] <green2rabbit> lol. What should I said. I just can not find a word to describe.
[12:30] <jotta> ;-)
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: to have a clean start?µ
[12:31] <green2rabbit> NoNo. I upgrade it to 14.04. And a lot software can not run.
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: wich software?
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: next year 12.04 is eol, and youl have to switch anyway
[12:32] <green2rabbit> ROS.
[12:32] <green2rabbit> yes. I know that.
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: why not install 14.04.3 clean + cable internet + updates
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: and find a solution for your software?
[12:32] <green2rabbit> But some software do not upgrade so fast.
[12:33] <green2rabbit> Oh, it is a huge job. I can do it by myself.
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> brb
[12:35] <Guest1860> i am on elementary os freya
[12:35] <Guest1860> i cant eneble the desktop icon. any body help
[12:35] <green2rabbit> how to install the linux-firmware?
[12:36] <green2rabbit> I download a tar.gz file.  lotuspsychje
[12:36] <green2rabbit> Using make seems not the right way.
[12:37] <green2rabbit> Oh. I found a deb file. lotuspsychje
[12:37] <jimem> connect:irc.clapity.eu:7777
[12:37] <Nichlolas> how do i create thumbnail folder in ubuntu
[12:38] <Nichlolas> ?
[12:38] <Nichlolas> i mean in cache folder?
[12:39] <Guest1860> i need desktop[ icops on elemrntary
[12:42] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[12:42] <JNixx> Hi BluesKaj
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: a .deb of what
[12:44] <green2rabbit> a .deb  of linux-firmware
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: make sure its for 12.04 right
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hi JNixx
[12:54] <roflc0pt3r> Hey all, anyone know how to add an additional static route to dhcpd.conf? thanks in advance.
[12:56] <ubiqutiy> hiahia
[12:56] <green2rabbit> Did it necessary to install alternete version of ubuntu?  lotuspsychje
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: no, why?
[12:57] <green2rabbit> I just found it today.
[12:57] <green2rabbit> It said more quick? or some others?
[12:57] <green2rabbit> do you know it?
[12:57] <renken1126> hai goodpeople
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> green2rabbit: for normal install, best to use ubuntu-desktop
[12:58] <green2rabbit> Yeah. I think so.
[12:59] <ubiqutiy> @OerHeks why u say nothing to doZ
[12:59] <renken1126> ada yang dari indonesia
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> !english | renken1126
[13:00] <renken1126> oh sorry
[13:00] <ubiqutiy> calm, polite
[13:02] <ulu> Hey, does anyone know where can I find .deb package of gcc-arm-none-eabi, version 4.7.x
[13:02] <ubiqutiy> arm ubuntu repo
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> !info gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabi | ulu
[13:03] <ubiqutiy> or cross compile
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> ulu: sudo apt-get download gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabi
[13:04] <sruli> hi, Ubuntu 14.40 - i made system update, and for past hour its stuck at "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-55-generic" i am worried if i reboot at this stage i'll have more problems, what do i do to fix or cancel the kernel upgrade
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> !eol | sruli
[13:04] <hateball> lotuspsychje: you don't need sudo for download ;)
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> sruli: oh you mean 14.04?
[13:04] <sruli> \\ sorry 14.04 typo
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> right
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> hateball: oh tnx!
[13:05] <hateball> lotuspsychje: nor for apt-cache search etc
[13:05] <hateball> lotuspsychje: not trying to be a jerk, it's just good to know :)
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> hateball: i take advise well no sweat :p
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> hateball: so because system doesnt install it, it doesnt need sudo right?
[13:07] <hateball> lotuspsychje: yep
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> k tnx
[13:12] <sruli> can anyone help with how to proceed on initramfs hanging on update?
[13:15] <daftykins> sruli: what's the story here?
[13:16] <sruli> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04 - i made system update, and for past hour its stuck at "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-55-generic" i am worried if i reboot at this stage i'll have more problems, what do i do to fix or cancel the kernel upgrade
[13:16] <daftykins> ah you're on the old HWE there
[13:16] <sruli> HWE?
[13:16] <daftykins> sruli: can you run a "sudo apt-get -f install" to check there are no lingering issues first? throw it in a http://paste.ubuntu.com if there are any relevant messages
[13:16] <daftykins> !hwe
[13:17] <daftykins> essentially you have utopic (14.10's) kernel on trusty there.
[13:17] <sruli> daftykins: to do apt-get install i will need to cancel the hung update, right?
[13:19] <daftykins> sruli: ah i thought you were saying you had run an initramfs update manually; my mistake. can you share what's already shown?
[13:20] <huwjr> how do I load in a setting from  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail ?
[13:21] <sruli> daftykins:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13668188/
[13:22] <daftykins> sruli: you can ctrl+c then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[13:22] <_Avocado_> Just installed ubuntu on my laptop, my mouse flickers between visible and invisible, anyone knows this problem?
[13:23] <_Avocado_> also my driver installation just froze
[13:23] <daftykins> what's the graphics hardware?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Avocado_, which driver?
[13:24] <_Avocado_> nvm te insllation is  complete now
[13:24] <_Avocado_> my mouse is invisible most of the time now :/
[13:24] <rainbowwarrior> hello , I am running windows 10 and want to install Ubuntu as dual boot, but when I go to install Ubuntu it is not picking up my windows 10 installation, how can i fix this please ?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Avocado_, have you rebooted since the driver install?
[13:25] <hateball> rainbowwarrior: is this 14.04 or 15.10 ?
[13:25] <rainbowwarrior> 15.10
[13:25] <sruli> daftykins: seems to also get stuck at update-initramfs http://paste.ubuntu.com/13668246/
[13:25] <daftykins> sruli: can you post "df -h" ?
[13:26] <_Avocado_> over-current condition on my usb, what does that mean?
[13:26] <_Avocado_> when I restarted, that shows
[13:26] <daftykins> power surge
[13:26] <rainbowwarrior> hateball : 15.10
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Avocado_, so you haven't installed the OS , you're on live media?
[13:27] <sruli> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13668286/
[13:28] <hateball> rainbowwarrior: make sure it was a clean shutdown so the ntfs partition is not marked as dirty
[13:28] <daftykins> sruli: mmm, do you use any proprietary drivers? (graphics etc)
[13:29] <sruli> no
[13:29] <rainbowwarrior> hateball: ok will try again thank you
[13:30] <daftykins> sruli: can you share "dpkg -l | grep linux- | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:30] <huwjr> can I load in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail only with ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0?
[13:33] <sruli> daftykins:  http://termbin.com/6pr7
[13:34] <daftykins> sruli: i wouldn't worry about not being able to boot, regardless of what happens you can use the GRUB menu to select another kernel at boot time - you can see there you have at least 4 installed
[13:35] <sruli> daftykins: so reboot and try again?
[13:35] <daftykins> nah i don't think that'll help
[13:36] <daftykins> sruli: try "sudo dpkg -r linux-signed-image-3.16.0-55-generic linux-image-extra-3.16.0-55-generic linux-image-3.16.0-55-generic"
[13:39] <sruli> daftykins:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13668480/
[13:41] <daftykins> oof that's an ugly one
[13:42] <daftykins> sruli: ok, how about "sudo update-initramfs -u -k 3.16.0-55-generic"
[13:43] <ubiqutiy> any one hereZ
[13:43] <daftykins> always.
[13:43] <ubiqutiy> does ubuntu open source?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, of course, as I'm pretty sure you well know.
[13:45] <ubiqutiy> does the process that creating official open source?
[13:45] <sruli> daftykins: done, what do i do next?
[13:45] <ubiqutiy> those step script
[13:45] <daftykins> sruli: did it complete cleanly?
[13:45] <sruli> daftykins: seems so
[13:46] <ubiqutiy> make sure, u have vmlinuz & initramfs
[13:46] <daftykins> sruli: double check the output now of "dpkg -l | grep linux- | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:46] <ubiqutiy> then u can reboot
[13:47] <sruli> daftykins: http://termbin.com/aini
[13:47] <ubiqutiy> @cfhowlett
[13:48] <daftykins> sruli: ok, try booting into it
[13:48] <sruli> ok
[13:49] <ubiqutiy> linux /vmlinuz
[13:49] <daftykins> ubiqutiy: this is a support channel, please either ask a support question or be silent
[13:50] <ubiqutiy> deos ubuntu open the source that creating the official ISO?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !source | ubiqutiy
[13:51] <daftykins> ubiqutiy: that is not a syntactically correct sentence
[13:51] <cfhowlett> methinks google translate is in use.
[13:53] <sruli> daftykins: booted with updated kernel, tnx
[13:53] <ubiqutiy> i mean how to create official ISO from ubuntu source code
[13:53] <ubiqutiy> i'm not google translation
[13:53] <daftykins> sruli: no problem, in the long run i would recommend upgrading to a newer HWE as per - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[13:54] <capoderra> ubiqutiy, what is your native language? I understand Spanish and Portuguese
[13:54] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, no need to create the .iso, just download it and install
[13:54] <ubiqutiy> Chinese
[13:54] <cfhowlett> !cn | ubiqutiy
[13:55] <sruli> daftykins: will read, tnx
[13:55] <ubiqutiy> just want to know the step to create ISO
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !kylin | ubiqutiy
[13:55] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, suggest you use the ubuntu-kylin channels for your questions.
[13:55] <ubiqutiy> i mean the process to create ISO
[13:55] <Vexus> cfhowlett: he want to create a bootable device with ubuntu on it
[13:56] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, understood.  ask the #ubuntu-kylin team
[13:56] <windearthfirerai> Good morning
[13:56] <ubiqutiy> hn
[13:56] <capoderra> I think he wants to spin his own ISO
[13:56] <ubiqutiy> no
[13:56] <ubiqutiy> Vexus
[13:56] <Vexus> windearthfirerai: almost afternoon? :D
[13:56] <Vexus> ubiqutiy: yes?
[13:56] <Vexus> ubiqutiy: ah i see, then idk sorry
[13:57] <ubiqutiy> I can put all ubuntu file extracted from ISO to the usb hard drive and boot this usb drive
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !usb | ubiqutiy
[13:57] <cfhowlett> capoderra, good call !
[13:57] <ubiqutiy> i'll reading thin articals
[13:58] <ubiqutiy> now i want to know the process to create ISO from source code
[13:58] <capoderra> ubiqutiy, try Google search "spin your own ISO" or "roll your own iso"
[13:58] <ubiqutiy> issus make?
[13:58] <ubiqutiy> scripts?
[13:59] <anabain> Is there any gui networking tool that displays all interfaces one packet goes through? I mean, eth0, tun0, br0, ppp0,  etc. and its associated IPs?
[13:59] <capoderra> You want to compile the Ubuntu source code into an ISO?
[13:59] <ubiqutiy> yes.
[13:59] <akik> ubiqutiy: this could help you out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[13:59] <ubiqutiy> old articals
[13:59] <ubiqutiy> has read it
[13:59] <ubiqutiy> it's customization
[13:59] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, seriously, go to the chinese language support from #ubuntu-kylin
[14:00] <ubiqutiy> not the creating process
[14:00] <akik> ubiqutiy: there's a step in there which creates the image again with mkisofs
[14:01] <capoderra> ubiqutiy, I don't think this is the correct channel to ask this question. You should go elsewhere. Sorry, but we don't seem to be able to help you.
[14:01] <ubiqutiy> genisoimage
[14:01] <akik> no, mkisofs
[14:01] <ubiqutiy> genisoimages
[14:02] <capoderra> lol at this conversation...
[14:02] <ubiqutiy> do u know how te setup the building environment?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, http://www.ubuntu.com/index_kylin
[14:03] <ubiqutiy> download the source code
[14:03] <ubiqutiy> i know kylin
[14:03] <ubiqutiy> now i use ubuntu
[14:03] <akik> ubiqutiy tries to write english so why are you directing him elsewhere?
[14:03] <ubiqutiy> not ubuntu kylin
[14:03] <cfhowlett> "tries to" .... I'm in China.  He'll get WAY more on-target support from kylin.
[14:04] <_Avocado_> How do I set the default python in ubuntu? I want to use python3 instead of 2.7
[14:04] <ubiqutiy> 你在中国哪？
[14:04] <ubiqutiy> ln -s python3 python
[14:06] <ubiqutiy> just want to know how to compile the ubuntu source and create the same official ISO
[14:07] <capoderra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[14:07] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, you've asked how to make a USB and how to compile the .iso.  Choose ONE question.
[14:08] <ubiqutiy> .iso
[14:08] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, this will explain the entire process   http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[14:09] <peopltuij> build the userland using buildd / pbuilder and then use deboostrap to pull in the packages for a base installation fromthat
[14:09] <ubiqutiy> not LFS
[14:09] <ubiqutiy> just ubuntu ISO
[14:10] <peopltuij> it's complex. you will fail. debian / ubuntu hs one of the largest and sophisticated userlands in the world. even LFS won't get you close
[14:10] <capoderra> ubiqutiy, what do you think of that link I gave you above?
[14:10] <peopltuij> the iso is just deboostraped packages wrapped intoa  bootable image
[14:10] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, Beijing??
[14:10] <ubiqutiy> 是的，帝都
[14:10] <windearthfirerai> Good morning guys
[14:10] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, http://beijinglug.org/
[14:12] <ubiqutiy> cfhowlett
[14:12] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, ?
[14:12] <ubiqutiy> do u know how to create official from source?
[14:13] <ubiqutiy> the same as official ISO
[14:13] <ubiqutiy> not debian, not LFS
[14:13] <peopltuij> debian staff read LFS and ubuntu is made from debian
[14:13] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, no need to compile when I can download the .iso.  What is your goal??
[14:13] <peopltuij> if you can't read the debian handbook you are going to suffer
[14:14] <ubiqutiy> just want to experience how to create ISO like ubuntu official
[14:15] <server-user123> Hello. I'm setting up some very locked down kiosk boxes using a pxe server. When a new one is first made it installs programs via apt-get. Is there an easy way to version lock things to "the newest version available by this date" or similar? I would like them all to be as similar to each other as possible.
[14:15] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, the ubuntu-kylin can provide support.  ask them.
[14:15] <ubiqutiy> i am not using ubuntu kylin
[14:15] <windearthfirerai> pxe?
[14:15] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, same process.
[14:15] <ubiqutiy> i'm using ubuntu desktop iso
[14:15] <windearthfirerai> nm
[14:15] <ubiqutiy> r u in BeiJing?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> server-user123, you don't specify how many boxes, but might a local mirror work for you?
[14:16] <windearthfirerai> oh ok
[14:16] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, me?  yes.
[14:16] <ubiqutiy> foreign?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, ubuntu user
[14:17] <ubiqutiy> Chinese?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, doesn't matter and off-topic.
[14:18] <ubiqutiy> do u know how to create ISO from source code?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, no.
[14:18] <cfhowlett> ubiqutiy, ask #ubuntukylin-devel for recommendations
[14:18] <daftykins> ubiqutiy: i don't think that's the purpose of this channel
[14:18] <server-user123> cfhowlett, A local mirror of the repo which doesn't update? That's a really good idea I'd never have thought of.
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !server | server-user123
[14:19] <server-user123> cfhowlett, At the moment I'm trying to use apt-get install curl=1.213. But I'm worried I'll forget to specify a version somewhere.
[14:20] <cfhowlett> server-user123, the server channel can advise better than I.  Desktop user only and I've read about local mirror but never implemented.
[14:30] <ubuntu104>
[14:40] <infocallor> hjallloo
[14:40] <infocallor> sdasdasdasdas
[14:40] <infocallor_> yo
[14:40] <infocallor_> supp
[14:40] <cfhowlett> infocallor, stop it
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !ask
[14:40] <infocallor_> no
[14:44] <Penorsaurus> I have a python script that is a scraper that downloads and replaces an image file
[14:44] <Penorsaurus> however after running it for a while
[14:44] <Penorsaurus> i tun out of hdd space
[14:45] <cfhowlett> Penorsaurus, best to ask #python
[14:45] <Penorsaurus> df -h shoes rootfs is full
[14:45] <bean> cfhowlett, maybe not, if it's just an education problem :)
[14:45] <cfhowlett> proceed, Sir Bean ...
[14:45] <bean> Penorsaurus, so it 'replaces' the existing image file?
[14:45] <Penorsaurus> yes.
[14:46] <pbx> definitely debug in #python
[14:46] <bean> so it's just one image, and when you kill the script and restart it the disk space is freed?
[14:46] <Penorsaurus> bean, no only after I reboot and temporary files are cleared.
[14:46] <bean> Penorsaurus, where are the temporary files stored? are you not removing the old file when downloading a new one?
[14:47] <Penorsaurus> bean, I am just replacing. i am not removing.
[14:47] <Penorsaurus> simply redownloading with the same name.
[14:47] <bean> Penorsaurus, so it sounds to me like you aren't closing the file handle on the 'old' file.
[14:47] <Penorsaurus> bean, do you think deleting the old file before recreating it would solve this issue?
[14:47] <pbx> Penorsaurus, i'm waiting for you in #python :)  http://dpaste.com/?poster=Penosaurus&title=image%20downloader&syntax=python
[14:48] <zetheroo> if a user does "chmod go-rwx" on their home directory and I have access to the machine with a user which has sudo rights is there any way I can view in the users home directory?
[14:48] <Moonsilence> Hi! How do I setup automatic login for my account?
[14:48] <ikonia> zetheroo: come on !
[14:48] <bean> zetheroo, if you have sudo access you can access any folder.
[14:49] <zetheroo> I try to cd into the home directory and I get "Permission denied"
[14:49] <geirha> zetheroo: depends on the filesystem and exact sudo privileges, but yes
[14:49] <bean> Penorsaurus, pbx is probably better for this than me, but probably. If you don't close the file descriptor associated with the old file it'll still stick around.
[14:51] <Penorsaurus> bean, I wonder if a hackish solution would be to just make the ubuntu server reboot every hour or so, and start up the script?
[14:51] <Penorsaurus> do ytou have an example of this?
[14:51] <bean> Penorsaurus, i would never recommend that. can you pastebin the code?
[14:51] <Penorsaurus> bean, sure.
[14:52] <Penorsaurus> i'll give you an example.
[14:53] <SynrG> Hi. I'm a Debian developer with a long time support relationship with a friend, helping him with technical support of his Debian and Ubuntu systems. I've come for advice regarding a potential laptop purchase, after completing research on the matter ...
[14:54] <SynrG> We have our eyes on an Acer laptop with a Braswell (N3700). Specifically, the Acer E5-532. Just want to make sure I haven't overlooked anything ...
[14:55] <Pici> SynrG: ##hardware might serve you better than here
[14:55] <daftykins> SynrG: low end and rubbish.
[14:55] <SynrG> performance is at the bottom of our criteria list. cost is king
[14:56] <SynrG> whatever your opinion of "low end rubbish", it will meet his needs and is priced for his budget.
[14:56] <littlebear> SynrG: would you know his use case? if it's just surfing and typing, chromebook would do
[14:57] <daftykins> SynrG: that's nice.
[14:57] <SynrG> other than long-term use and familiarity by this non-technical user of both Ubuntu and Debian ...
[14:57] <SynrG> also, libreoffice.
[14:57] <SynrG> yes, a Chromebook might do, but I'm reluctant to support something about which I know zero.
[14:58] <daftykins> i'd avoid those - but as mentioned this topic is not for this channel
[14:58] <SynrG> daftykins: i assume if-and-when we make the purchase, if i have install issues, this *is* a topic for this channel?
[14:59] <daftykins> yes the topic is the clue, support :)
[14:59] <SynrG> right. this was a pre-support introduction, in case there was something seriously wrong with my plan. i deemed #ubuntu to have a better idea about Ubuntu running on Braswell. sorry if i was mistaken about that
[14:59] <fris> after upgrading from 14.10 to 15.10 i notice the startup scripts dont have any output, like service ssh reload, it reloads it but no output is shown, any idea which config if one, not sure what is going on, never had this issue before
[15:00] <SynrG> everything i've seen indicates it is supported, so I'm going forward with that
[15:00] <leehambley> with the wily-server-cloudimg images, is there a way to pass kernel boot options, I tried in vagrant, hitting <ESC> like hell to get a grub prompt or something
[15:00] <leehambley> but I'm not fast enough, any suggestions ?
[15:00] <SynrG> will also ask at ##hardware. thanks. but they're just going to piss on my "low end and rubbish" hardware too, i suspect.
[15:00] <SynrG> i'll be happy if my prediction is wrong ;)
[15:01] <daftykins> leehambley: hold left shift?
[15:01] <leehambley> I'll try
[15:05] <diverdude> hi. i have setup /etc/network/interfaces like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13669843/ but for some reason the static ipadress on eth2 is not going into effect. What am I missing?
[15:06] <daftykins> diverdude: you need a netmask and gateway too; that's insufficient
[15:06] <daftykins> assuming you want that to be online
[15:06] <leehambley> also does anyone know what scripts are used to provision the VMs available to download from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/wily/current/ ?
[15:06] <leehambley> it is vmbulider? That looks unmaintained
[15:08] <bean> you also probably want `auto eth2` diverdude
[15:08] <daftykins> bean: ah yeah good spot, didn't even consider that one
[15:09] <Kitt3n> does ubuntu come with the config file for building kernels?
[15:09] <bean> diverdude, but like daftykins said, you need a netmask and a gateway.
[15:09] <Kitt3n> or is there a place where I can download it for the specific versions?
[15:09] <bean> Kitt3n, there's a great doc here: you done for the semester? Or was that nearly the first of the f
[15:09] <bean> err, Kitt3n theres a great doc here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[15:10] <LeviM_> TJ-: The new kernel boots!
[15:10] <LeviM_> I have an odd issue, though.
[15:10] <LeviM_> If I let grub automatically boot I get a black screen.
[15:10] <LeviM_> If I choose "Advanced Options" and select any entry it will work.
[15:10] <LeviM_> Anyone have any ideas on what is wrong there?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> LeviM_, I would guess that grub has an incorrect configuration for the kernel.
[15:13] <dcope> if i put a file with a cron job in /etc/cron.d will it automatically run when it's time?
[15:15] <diverdude> bean, so what should it be? like this? iface lo inet loopback
[15:15] <diverdude>       address <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:16] <diverdude> sry
[15:16] <daftykins> diverdude: no: auto eth2; iface eth2 inet static; address <IP_ADDRESS>; netmask <IP_ADDRESS>; gateway <IP_ADDRESS>;
[15:19] <SynrG> basically from ##hardware i got "15.04 runs on a toaster, literally ... yes, it will work." while not as satisfying as "yes, it works fine on this chipset, or with this laptop model#" it will have to do. i'm confident in my web research anyway.
[15:20] <daftykins> SynrG: if you care about your friend you'd run LTS anyway
[15:20] <daftykins> 15.04 is dead in under 2 months
[15:21] <SynrG> daftykins: which is why i upgrade my friend's systems regularly. i definitely prefer LTS, when that's possible
[15:21] <ux2> hey
[15:21] <SynrG> i don't believe any LTS has intel xorg 2.99
[15:21] <SynrG> nor the necessary mesa or kernel versions
[15:21] <ux2> anyone from India here that can help with some language packs ?
[15:22] <SynrG> i'll install the Ubuntu release du jour when he makes the purchase. then i'll keep him upgraded until we get to LTS, then will stick with LTS
[15:22] <rolts> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a Raid 1 array a little while ago. I'm wondering if the boot time for my setup is normal. It's on 2 new 1 TB HDD's. I have a bootchart here http://i.imgur.com/AcANlyP.png, I hope someone can tell me if it is normal for it to take so long.
[15:24] <sparrow_nc> hi
[15:24] <daftykins> SynrG: look into HWE stacks on trusty (14.04) and you'll see you can use more current xorg and kernels but maintain LTS.
[15:25] <SynrG> daftykins: ok. ootb? or i install 14.04 and fix it after?
[15:25] <ux2> Any Indians here?
[15:25] <ux2> I need help
[15:25] <sparrow_nc> here ...
[15:25] <Penorsaurus> why does it matter if there are indians.
[15:25] <cfhowlett> india | ux2
[15:26] <SynrG> daftykins: nm. i can look things up :)
[15:26] <ux2> Penorsaurus: trying to install languages
[15:26] <ux2> thats why
[15:26] <ux2> cfhowlett: tried that its dead :/
[15:26] <SynrG> daftykins: "Hardware Enablement Stacks (HWE) are incorporated into installers for select Ubuntu LTS (Long Term Support) point releases." <- that's what i wanted to see. excellent :)
[15:27] <daftykins> SynrG: yep there might be a 14.04.4 eventually with the Wily HWE - thus 4.2 kernel
[15:27] <SynrG> and i see this is a new thing, which is why i didn't know about it for his prior ubuntu installs
[15:27] <SynrG> yep
[15:28] <SynrG> well, this is all very encouraging. thanks.
[15:28] <daftykins> nah i think 12.04 has used it
[15:28] <SynrG> i'd have gone with Jessie + backports (Being a DD inclines me towards this) but sadly, Mesa support is lagging. no Jessie backport :(
[15:29] <SynrG> that's still "new"
[15:29] <SynrG> his last Ubuntu install was before that
[15:30] <SynrG> i've supported him on a combination of Debian / Ubuntu (Debian on his desktop, Ubuntu on his laptops) ever since '98
[15:30] <sparrow_nc> quit
[15:30] <sparrow_nc> #quit
[15:34] <ub_ubuntu> #ubuntu-beginner
[15:34] <freakyfidlers> 14.04.4 is out already
[15:34] <sl1ypy> Man i love ubuntu *_*
[15:34] <ub_ubuntu> join #ubuntu-beginner
[15:34] <freakyfidlers> its just in beta
[15:34] <sl1ypy> Thank you devs
[15:34] <nicomachus> ub_ubuntu: you need to type "/join #ubuntu-beginner"
[15:34] <bean> ub_ubuntu, you want /join
[15:34] <daftykins> freakyfidlers: then that's not out...
[15:35] <nicomachus> but that's not a channel... so
[15:35] <ub_ubuntu> thanks
[15:35] <ux2> anyone here speak Hindi?
[15:35] <ub_ubuntu> little bit ux2
[15:36] <bean> there are usually other language channels for that ux2
[15:36] <Naughx> @ux2, you should join the indian irc channel
[15:36] <Naughx> I guess.
[15:36] <bean> which is "#ubuntu-in"
[15:36] <ux2> I did/...
[15:36] <ux2> its pretty dead
[15:36] <bean> it's 9pm in india.
[15:36] <bean> doesn't surprise me
[15:37] <ux2> its not that late..but who knows
[15:37] <bean> a lot of people are only on IRC during the word day
[15:37] <bean> work*
[15:38] <Kitt3n> bean, hehehe, didn't see that one :)
[15:39] <diverdude> bean, sorry to bother again... i set this now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13670531/ but its still not getting that ip address in ifconfig. after i made the changes i do: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:39] <bean> diverdude, remember the part where i  said you need 'auto eth2' as well.
[15:40] <diverdude> bean, aha. i need to put that after ?
[15:40] <bean> diverdude, above the 'inet' line for eth2