[12:00] <korCZiz> apt-get install aim ??? ;)
[12:00] <cleit0n> [chii] : how i installl modem intel 537ep in kubuntu?
[12:00] <bystander> twb_: you might read this too
[12:00] <bystander> !repositories
[12:00] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:00] <korCZiz> what is kubuntu?
[12:00] <korCZiz> how differences are between ubuntu a kubuntu?
[12:00] <stazz> korCZiz: kubuntu is a stupid word invented to confuse people
[12:01] <korCZiz> stazz: kubuntu==ubuntu?
[12:01] <stazz> korCZiz: yes.
[12:01] <jvl> korCZiz: essentially its ubuntu using kde
[12:01] <bystander> korCZiz: it's ubuntu with KDE
[12:01] <stazz> korCZiz: kubuntu is ubuntu with a kde desktop
[12:01] <korCZiz> so if i have installed kde 3.4 so i have not ubuntu but kubuntu now?
[12:02] <aurax> can anyone help me out, i have to release a port from my gateway
[12:02] <stazz> aurax: your gateways manual can help you
[12:02] <korCZiz> i have gnome, kde3.4, wmaker, phluid, enlightenment... what i have?
[12:02] <bystander> korCZiz: you have ubuntu with gnome and kde
[12:02] <aurax> sure
[12:02] <aurax> u know a good one ?
[12:02] <stazz> korCZiz: you've got ubuntu. ;)
[12:02] <korCZiz> bystander: and if i unistall gnome is going to be kubuntu?
[12:03] <stazz> korCZiz: yes and no.
[12:03] <stazz> korCZiz: no in terms of sense
[12:03] <korCZiz> so diffirent between ubuntu and kubuntu is only 'k' letter?
[12:03] <bystander> korCZiz: it's all Ubuntu, whatever you install :) You can even have ubuntu without a desktop or window manager
[12:03] <cleit0n> [chii] : how i installl modem intel 537ep in kubuntu?
[12:04] <stazz> korCZiz: as I said. kubuntu is a stupid word invented to confuse people uncessarily
[12:04] <fsd3> hi. somebody knows how i can set the style of my nautilus explorer permanent. i m always setting list and 25% and it saves the config just for that folder
[12:05] <korCZiz> bystander: so i am not able understand how differences are between both distros. if i use ubuntu with kde than its kubuntu. without kde ubuntu. when i uninstall gnome and install kde. what is it? good question in some quizes..
[12:05] <^thehatsrule^> korCZis: ubuntu is officially only supported
[12:05] <bystander> korCZiz: kubunu is  not a separate distro
[12:05] <bystander> *kubuntu
[12:05] <aurax> can anyone help me out fix my gateway so p2p clients on the workstations can wokr ?
[12:05] <aurax> work even
[12:05] <bystander> korCZiz: it's just an addition/ choice
[12:06] <korCZiz> omg, why was kubuntu invented? everyone can type as i apt-get install kde3 and have kubuntu
[12:06] <twb_> wheres synaptic located?
[12:06] <bystander> korCZiz: no, you should type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop really
[12:06] <jvl> twb_: computer -> system configuration
[12:06] <korCZiz> its only word invented for confusing.......how said stazz before
[12:07] <twb_> filesystem?
[12:07] <korCZiz> K means krippled
[12:07] <korCZiz> ;)
[12:07] <ukato> haha
[12:07] <korCZiz> kids
[12:07] <jvl> twb_: nope. menus
[12:08] <w-mute> Hi, folks.
[12:08] <jvl> taskbar more exactly
[12:08] <bystander> twb_: most binaries/executable are in /usr/bin/ , but that doesn't matter really as long as they are in your PATH variable
[12:08] <korCZiz> are here any developers?
[12:08] <korCZiz> kernel developers?
[12:09] <korCZiz> or only administrators and users?
[12:09] <goldfish> korCZiz: #ubuntu-dev
[12:09] <^thehatsrule^> tbh, i cant use kde... too heavy for my machine heh
[12:09] <korCZiz> goldfish: you are really gold fish, and can i have next two wishes?
[12:09] <korCZiz> goldfish: are you goldfish or no?
[12:09] <twb_> anyone here play Raven Shiield/
[12:09] <goldfish> korCZiz: i am goldfish.
[12:09] <korCZiz> goldfish: so i will working kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:10] <^thehatsrule^> twb_: yea i do, but on windows ;p
[12:10] <HiFi_dk> hi... are there something special i need to do, to compile a new ubuntu kernel ?
[12:10] <korCZiz> goldfish: and.... next three wishes ;)
[12:10] <HiFi_dk> i have installede the linux-tree...
[12:10] <twb_> do u know how to instal it on here?
[12:10] <korCZiz> HiFi_dk: its impossible
[12:10] <^thehatsrule^> twb_: i think youll have to wine it...
[12:10] <korCZiz> HiFi_dk: to compile new kernel
[12:10] <twb_> eh?
[12:10] <bystander> korCZiz: nonsense
[12:10] <korCZiz> HiFi_dk: if your mkinitrd isnot working
[12:11] <GNULinuxer> how do i play mp4 videos in ubuntu?
[12:11] <HiFi_dk> korCZiz: ok, but I have to get ipw2200 working, following a howto
[12:11] <w-mute> Every 5 tries or so when I try to access an SMB share on a remote server (inside the LAN) Nautilus hangs when it normally would ask for the password of the keyring. Can anybody repro that? What's the fix?
[12:11] <GNULinuxer> gvlc tries to use /dev/dsp ... so i get no sound
[12:11] <korCZiz> HiFi_dk: hm
[12:11] <scsponger> hey how do you mount a smb drive so you can play some mp3s in xmms?
[12:11] <GNULinuxer> how do i make gvlc use esd?
[12:11] <bystander> twb_: you aren't expecting to run windows binaries on a new OS, are you?
[12:11] <HiFi_dk> but maybe it's enough with just the sources...
[12:11] <twb_> can u even install RvS on Linux
[12:11] <scsponger> please
[12:11] <korCZiz> scsponger: i have used linneighbourhood
[12:11] <^thehatsrule^> yes, by emulation
[12:11] <twb_> yes
[12:12] <w-mute> spsponger: not at all because xmms probably doesn't know about VFS.
[12:12] <scsponger> korCZiz... appreciate it
[12:12] <^thehatsrule^> bystander: well its a valid argument, since after all its based on the unreal engine... just no native ones for rvs tho
[12:12] <twb_> i want my vent and rvs
[12:12] <HiFi_dk> korCZiz: I coudn't find a package for it
[12:12] <scsponger> thanks w-mute
[12:12] <korCZiz> scsponger: and have mounted smb share in some dir and added into xmms, its simple
[12:12] <HiFi_dk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[12:12] <^thehatsrule^> twb_: vent?
[12:12] <twb_> ventrilo
[12:12] <scsponger> korCziz... i'm a newbie... so
[12:12] <korCZiz> scsponger: you must have compiled kernel with smbfs
[12:13] <orso> what package does cdrdao comes with?
[12:13] <korCZiz> scsponger: have you install linneigbourhood?
[12:13] <w-mute> scsponger: right - if you mount the share via the mount command it will work ... but it will toast your access control.
[12:13] <twb_> thehatsrule: whats ur name on rvs?
[12:13] <orso> cdrtools?
[12:13] <scsponger> korCZiz... no... but i will try
[12:13] <korCZiz> scsponger: if not, type "apt-get install linneigbourhoods"
[12:13] <scsponger> great will do
[12:13] <neighborlee> is there any convergence of opinions on what is causing, and a fix for this odd X lockups many are seeing ? ( locks up x although mouse /keyb seem to still work but gnome-panel is fried )
[12:14] <korCZiz> jvl1: wb
[12:14] <puddleboy> ubuntu rox
[12:14] <bystander> orso: apt-cache search cdrdao  >> cdrdao funnily enough
[12:14] <jvl1> thx
[12:14] <twb_> can Limwire go on Linux?
[12:14] <puddleboy> twb_, tes
[12:14] <puddleboy> erm
[12:14] <ralf> twb_: yes
[12:14] <puddleboy> yes
[12:15] <puddleboy> twb_, what flavor of linux are you running?
[12:15] <orso> bystander, tanks, my first time with apt-get (im used to portage)
[12:15] <twb_> Ubuntu
[12:15] <twb_> ????
[12:15] <twb_> i guess....
[12:15] <twb_> brah, i have no idea about anything when it comes to Linux
[12:16] <puddleboy> twb_, ill give you a link to where you can d/l it for linux - sec
[12:16] <korCZiz> goldfish: on ubuntu-dev is only one (of course inactive) person
[12:16] <bystander> !faq
[12:16] <ubotu> I heard faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[12:16] <Dj_AlTeK> hey ne1 know how to copy a cd to a folder then burn it to a disc with all the track listings??
[12:16] <puddleboy> http://www.limewire.com/english/content/downloadfree.shtml
[12:16] <puddleboy> there is a linux link on there
[12:17] <Zeq> i need some help here, i cant change my screen resolution, i have a 17' monitor but I can only choose the 640x480 resolution, anyone who can help..
[12:17] <twb_> i have Limewire on cd from windows, im assuming that wont work on here?
[12:17] <theonetrueace> can i download the install/live dvd from someone on this channel?
[12:17] <korCZiz> pec
[12:17] <Dj_AlTeK> hey ne1 know how to copy a music cd to a folder then burn it to a disc with all the track listings??
[12:17] <SQFreak> I'm having a repo problem. When I try to install kubuntu-desktop, I'm told that it depends on konversation which is not going to be installed. Konversation depends on a newer version of kdelibs than is available. What should I do?
[12:17] <puddleboy> twb_, correct, you will have to download limewire for linux
[12:17] <puddleboy> twb_, from here: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/downloadfree.shtml
[12:17] <twb_> ok
[12:17] <MidnightDevil> hi, i accidently added my username in the wrong linenumber so now i got the msg "sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 20"
[12:17] <twb_> ty
[12:17] <puddleboy> twb_, np
[12:17] <alberto_> has anyone gotten ubunto to work with the alsa drivers for ac97 ?
[12:18] <bystander> twb_: methinks you need to change the way you are thinking - this ain't windows any more ;-)
[12:18] <twb_> and do u know about games such as Ravenshield?
[12:18] <pepsix> Dj_AlTeK, have you done.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:18] <pepsix> ?
[12:18] <Triffid_Hunter> MidnightDevil: time for a knoppix cd ;)
[12:18] <twb_> am i able to install on here
[12:18] <Dj_AlTeK> pepsix, no
[12:18] <scsponger> korCZiz....  sudo apt-get install linneigbourhoods
[12:18] <scsponger> Password:
[12:18] <scsponger> Reading package lists... Done
[12:18] <scsponger> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:18] <scsponger> E: Couldn't find package linneigbourhoods
[12:18] <scsponger> ... ?
[12:18] <MidnightDevil> i dont have any :(
[12:18] <goldfish> lol
[12:18] <Dj_AlTeK> should i do it in root terminal?
[12:18] <bystander> scsponger: wrong package name
[12:18] <pepsix> Dj_AlTeK, it doesnt matter.. you need to do it as root... so a regulat terminal with sudo prepended to the command will be fine
[12:18] <bystander> scsponger: possiby linneighborhood
[12:19] <korCZiz> scsponger: my mistake
[12:19] <MidnightDevil> Triffid_Hunter,  any other way ?
[12:19] <korCZiz> scsponger: linneighbourhood
[12:19] <scsponger> thanks bystander... will give it a shot
[12:19] <orso> bystander, i get this, E: Invalid operation search
[12:19] <Zeq> i need some help here, i cant change my screen resolution, i have a 17' monitor but I can only choose the 640x480 resolution, anyone who can help..
[12:19] <Triffid_Hunter> MidnightDevil: exploit a local privelege escalation flaw
[12:19] <pepsix> Dj_AlTeK, oh heh
[12:19] <bystander> orso:  apt-cache search <keyword>
[12:19] <pepsix> that was meant for Zeq i guess
[12:19] <korCZiz> exploit? i love this word..
[12:19] <MidnightDevil> that sounds a little bit dificult, but if u tell me how i think i can live with that
[12:19] <MidnightDevil> lol
[12:19] <puddleboy> Zeq, what kind of video card are you running?
[12:20] <puddleboy> Zeq, also, what kind of monitor
[12:20] <scsponger> got it... thanks gents... will give it a shot
[12:20] <orso> bystander, sorry, didnt see that you wrote apt-cache
[12:20] <twb_> hey, i want to learn about this thing
[12:20] <twb_> i just dont know where to begin
[12:20] <MidnightDevil> brb
[12:21] <puddleboy> Zeq?
[12:21] <twb_> this things telling me i don have permission too extractt????
[12:21] <bystander> twb_: try the faq -see ubotu below
[12:21] <bystander> !faq
[12:21] <ubotu> [faq]  Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[12:21] <Zeq> I have a 17' LCD monitor
[12:21] <pepsix> Zeq, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:21] <Zeq> and i dont know which video card i have, i think is an onboard one
[12:21] <pepsix> try to answer the questions correctly :)
[12:21] <puddleboy> okay
[12:21] <Zeq> i have an intel pentium 4
[12:21] <bystander> twb_: you are probably trying to extract outside your home directory
[12:22] <pepsix> heh, you need to know your video card
[12:22] <alberto_> i have a laptop that has the ac97 card. i use to have suse on it, and the sound card worke fine, now with ubuntu de the driver looks the same and its on but i have no sound ... snd_atiixp
[12:22] <alberto_> can anyone help ?
[12:22] <pepsix> Zeq, ask hal-device-manager
[12:22] <alberto_> i been reading around with no luck
[12:23] <bystander> alberto_: ac97 is a codec, not a card
[12:23] <puddleboy> Zeq, can you open /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:23] <alberto_> sorry....
[12:23] <bystander> a number of cards use ac97
[12:23] <puddleboy> Zeq, with a text editor
[12:23] <korCZiz> alberto_: you need insmod snd_ac97_codecs
[12:23] <korCZiz> alberto_: you need insmod snd_ac97_codec
[12:23] <scsponger> korCziz .... i've properly installed linneighborhood... but am still unable to play anything... is there anything else I need to do?
[12:24] <alberto_> insmod: can't read 'snd_ac97_codecs': No such file or directory
[12:24] <Dj_AlTeK> pepsix, i ran dpkg-configure xserver-xorg, now what do i do
[12:24] <Zeq> wait..  im trying
[12:24] <korCZiz> scsponger: have you run a linneigbourhood? have you mounted smb share in some dir?
[12:24] <alberto_> korCZiz, is that the name of the module ?
[12:24] <bystander> korCZiz: please, if you don't know, don't answer: it just creates confusion
[12:24] <twb_> geez, i cant figure th is out
[12:24] <korCZiz> alberto_: so you have problems, my machine is working fine
[12:25] <korCZiz> alberto_: yes it is
[12:25] <scsponger> ummm... no but last time i tried to mount a smb share... it froze up my computer?
[12:25] <korCZiz> alberto_: maybe try append ko
[12:25] <scsponger> i know i need to do it
[12:25] <scsponger> but really don't know how
[12:25] <Zeq> i opened xorg.0.log
[12:25] <orso> bystander, i dont get the messege of apt-cache search cdrdao. it just roming about k3b but k3b asks for cdrdao to be installed?
[12:25] <sweetmoma> What is the easiest way to share a printer from one ubuntu install with another
[12:25] <puddleboy> can you copy and paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:25] <korCZiz> alberto_: snd_ac97_codec.ko
[12:25] <alberto_> korCZiz same outcome
[12:25] <puddleboy> (paste bin)
[12:25] <bystander> korCZiz: for heaven's sake, stop giving guess answers!
[12:26] <Dj_AlTeK> hey pepsix i ran dpkg-configure xserver-xorg, now what do i do?
[12:26] <korCZiz> bystander: what?
[12:26] <twb_> why is it co complex?
[12:26] <twb_> all i want is Limewire on my pc
[12:26] <bystander> orso: there are several lines - one of them is cdrdao, which is the package you need
[12:26] <korCZiz> alberto_: and have you seen /lib/modules directory?
[12:26] <sweetmoma> twb_, its not hard to install limewire
[12:26] <alberto_> korCZiz but its alredy on, Look at what lsmod says.... snd                    50660  6 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_
[12:26] <scsponger> korCziz: ummm... no but last time i tried to mount a smb share... it froze up my computer?
[12:26] <twb_> wanna walk me through it
[12:27] <bystander> twb_: it isn't complex - you just aren't used to it yet :)
[12:27] <scsponger> am i doing something wrong?
[12:27] <twb_> .....not at all : /
[12:27] <Vjaz> Hi. Is there an easy way to make Thunderbird handle mailto-links from Firefox?
[12:27] <sweetmoma> twb_, limewire is a java app, you need java and then download the Linux package from limewire.com
[12:27] <korCZiz> scsponger: so i dont know what is going to wrong, because my is working perfectly....
[12:27] <scsponger> hmm... ok i'll mess with it
[12:27] <scsponger> thanks for the help though
[12:28] <korCZiz> scsponger: it has frozes my computer when i have had czech letters in dir and filenames..
[12:28] <Vjaz> The default settings try to open a new Thunderbird each time, which is something Thunderbird doesn't like.
[12:28] <twb_> ok, so ill get java first
[12:28] <sweetmoma> Vjaz, use the preffered apps in settings
[12:28] <bystander> !java
[12:28] <ubotu> somebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[12:28] <korCZiz> scsponger: bystander is able to help you...
[12:28] <scsponger> hmmm
[12:28] <puddleboy> Zeq, still there?
[12:28] <scsponger> thanks korCziz
[12:28] <Vjaz> sweetmoma: Yes, I know that, but what should I put in there? The default "Thunderbird" setting is wrong because it tries to open a new Thunderbird each time I want to send mail.
[12:29] <korCZiz> scsponger: is not why...
[12:29] <alberto_> korCZiz any sujestions ?
[12:29] <korCZiz> alberto_: no, but have you seens log files?
[12:29] <orso> bystander, i only get two lines and nothing about cdrdao. An try to run apt-get install cdrdao tells me its not around or available
[12:29] <Zeq> yes, i have to copy that, right?
[12:29] <sweetmoma> Vjaz, It shouldnt do that, it happens to me sometimes
[12:30] <alberto_> yes
[12:30] <bystander> orso: you may be missing some repositories - see below
[12:30] <scsponger> bystander.... i've installed linneighborhood ... and have previously tried to mount my smb share dir... but all it did is freeze up my ubuntu box... any suggestions?
[12:30] <alberto_> everything looks normal
[12:30] <sweetmoma> orso, have you added any new repos?
[12:30] <bystander> !repositories
[12:30] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:30] <puddleboy> Zeq, copy it and paste it into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:30] <Vjaz> sweetmoma: Do you use Thunderbird too?
[12:30] <alberto_> i dont have a /dev/dsp though
[12:30] <scsponger> bystander... could i have my command wrong?
[12:30] <korCZiz> alberto_: and can you copy files from remote share to local?
[12:30] <orso> sweetmoma, how can i do that, this is my first time with apt-get
[12:30] <Vjaz> sweetmoma: On Hoary? And is the line in your preferred applications "mozilla-thunderbird -mail %s"? (that's the default for TB)
[12:30] <bystander> scsponger: I use NFS and know nothing about samba/smbfs etc
[12:31] <puddleboy> Zeq, what text editor did you open it in?
[12:31] <korCZiz> alberto_: or when you open the directory system frozes?
[12:31] <Dj_AlTeK> hey i got my music cd open, now i just need to know how to copy the songs to cdc/cd creator
[12:31] <sweetmoma> Vjaz, yes.  I use preffered apps and it works fine.  but hold on let me give you a link
[12:31] <Dj_AlTeK> cvc/cd creator*
[12:31] <Dj_AlTeK> dvd*
[12:31] <scsponger> bystander... i'll do some research thanks anyway
[12:31] <korCZiz> alberto_: sorry it was for scsponger
[12:31] <Zeq> done, i pasted it
[12:31] <alberto_> korCZiZ NO, I dont understand
[12:31] <alberto_> Oh cook :-)
[12:32] <Vjaz> sweetmoma: I'm guessing you know a script that does it right? I know about that solution... I was hoping that Ubuntu had made a neat package or something that takes care of it.
[12:32] <alberto_> korCZiz sorry to bathor man. i do apreciate your help
[12:32] <Vjaz> sweetmoma: But if you have a link, please paste it. That should help.
[12:32] <korCZiz> alberto_: ok, its your fish ;)
[12:32] <Wa77z> whats some good ftp software for linux ?
[12:32] <twb_> everything is goin to my desktop, im furious
[12:32] <Dj_AlTeK> ne1 here know how to copy songs from a cd to cd/dvd creator?
[12:33] <alberto_> so has anyone here battled this problem ?
[12:33] <cam> alberto_, is your sound card supported in linux?
[12:33] <puddleboy> Zeq, I see the problem, can you paste the contents of "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" to the paste bin?
[12:34] <alberto_> cam yes
[12:34] <cam> alberto_, is the module loaded?
[12:34] <alberto_> cam it was working in suse fine
[12:34] <alberto_> cam yes
[12:34] <Dj_AlTeK> ne1 here know how to copy songs from a cd to cd/dvd creator?
[12:34] <Zeq> wait wait, i paste xorg.conf contento where?
[12:34] <cam> what is the dmesg output from the module?
[12:34] <puddleboy> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:34] <puddleboy> same place
[12:35] <Zeq> oh, ok, sorry, i have some problems with my english
[12:35] <alberto_> cam the modules are loaded and seem to be fine
[12:35] <puddleboy> Zeq, its no problem, I probably have worse problems speaking whatever your native langage is :)
[12:35] <alberto_> cam the only thing is that i dont have a /dev/dsp and the sound doesnt work
[12:35] <cam> alberto_, but what's the output from your kernel log or dmes or whatever
[12:35] <Dj_AlTeK> does anyone know how to get songs from a cd to copy into the cd/dvd creator window??
[12:35] <puddleboy> language rather
[12:35] <alberto_> cam one sec, i will paste it in pastebin
[12:36] <cam> ok
[12:36] <twb_> anyone know how to make Debian look like this?
[12:36] <Zeq> done
[12:36] <sweetmoma> Vjaz, sorry i cant find the link right now , it was on newsforge a week ago
[12:36] <twb_> witth a theme an everything
[12:36] <bystander> Dj_AlTeK: if you want to make music CDs you'll need graveman, k3b or gnomebaker installed
[12:36] <Dj_AlTeK> does anyone know how to get songs from a cd to copy into the cd/dvd creator window??
[12:37] <alberto_> cam http://pastebin.ca/16189
[12:37] <sweetmoma> Dj_AlTeK, drag and drop
[12:37] <Dj_AlTeK> sweetmoma: drag and drop doesnt work
[12:37] <sweetmoma> Dj_AlTeK, what are you using?
[12:37] <Karn> well, livecd is up and running :) looks good
[12:38] <Quest-Master> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=232986 <-- for anyone wanting to help a poor Ubuntu user with a dead X graphical interface.. :(
[12:38] <Dj_AlTeK> i opened the cd, and opened cd-dvd creator and when i select a song it wont copy
[12:38] <sweetmoma> Dj_AlTeK, what app are you using?
[12:38] <Dj_AlTeK> cd/dvd creator
[12:38] <Dj_AlTeK> comes with ubuntu
[12:38] <bystander> Dj_AlTeK: 08:37 < bystander> Dj_AlTeK: if you want to make music CDs you'll need
[12:38] <bystander>                    graveman, k3b or gnomebaker installed
[12:38] <sweetmoma> Dj_AlTeK, have you tried k3b
[12:39] <cam> alberto_, what module are you using for your sound card?
[12:39] <cam> alberto_, or what kind of sound card do you have in there?
[12:40] <GNULinuxer> Any Idea how I can play mp4 videos in Ubuntu?
[12:40] <puddleboy> Zeq, in a terminal do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"    Find in it  Section "Device" and just below it there is a line that says  Driver "via".  Change "via" to "i810"
[12:40] <alberto_> cam
[12:40] <LexiCon[gsr-dj] > is there a starter's guide to installing the ethernet/wireless?? :\
[12:40] <cam> alberto_, ?
[12:40] <alberto_> cam can i pvt you the modules ?
[12:40] <cam> sure
[12:41] <osiris> Hi im trying to get my display setup correct i have a nvidia gforce fx5500 (the drivers are installed correctly) with a samsung Syncmaster 172v monitor, i have entered the correct vert and horiz values but still the display has a ghosted image to the right ive tried differant refresh rates too, any help would be great.
[12:41] <puddleboy> LexiCon[gsr-dj] , ethernet should have been installed automatically just fine - wireless can be tricky sometimes
[12:42] <Karn> osiris, how long is your video cable?
[12:42] <Dj_AlTeK> effin a!
[12:42] <Vjaz> sweetmoma: I think I found something that works on ubuntuforums.org: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18175 - it seemed to work fine on the first try, so I'm using that for now
[12:42] <osiris> Karn: Not very long, why?
[12:42] <Dj_AlTeK> i cant find my horay disc
[12:42] <alberto_> cam Got it?
[12:42] <puddleboy> Zeq, did that make sense?
[12:42] <Karn> osiris, a long cable can cause ghosting ... as can a cheap cable. make sure the cable isnt running near any power cables aswell
[12:42] <NeoGeo64> help
[12:42] <NeoGeo64> how do i enable universe and multiverse
[12:43] <osiris> Karn: It was ok in windows, about 30 mins ago.
[12:43] <Quest-Master> NeoGeo64: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:43] <cam> alberto_, yeah
[12:43] <cam> alberto_, hey, dump the lspci stuff over there too
[12:43] <bystander> Dj_AlTeK: then do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the Cd line with a # , do an update/reload, and install from the network
[12:43] <Karn> osiris, have you tried using the nv driver  - does it still have ghosting?
[12:43] <osiris> yes it does
[12:44] <osiris> im sure it has something to do with the horiz and vert values i have set, but they seem to have worked last time.
[12:44] <osiris> and they are the correct values from the monitor manual.
[12:44] <Karn> what resolution are you running?
[12:44] <Zeq> yes, and i save changes
[12:44] <osiris> 1280x1024
[12:44] <Zeq> and now?
[12:44] <osiris> at 60hz
[12:44] <Karn> osiris, is it ghosting @ 800x600
[12:45] <osiris> No not at all
[12:45] <alberto_> cam Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller
[12:45] <osiris> Perfect Display at 800x600
[12:45] <Karn> osiris, then i'm guessing either the refresh isnt high enough or the screen cant handle 1280x1024
[12:45] <Dj_AlTeK> thanx bystander
[12:46] <osiris> Karn: it must be the refresh but i have had it working before in ubuntu with 1280x1024 @60hz
[12:46] <osiris> this is what i cant understand
[12:46] <puddleboy> Zeq, restart
[12:46] <puddleboy> =)
[12:46] <Zeq> ok, brb =)
[12:47] <Zeq> thank u
[12:47] <Karn> osiris, i wouldnt recommend 60hz anyways ... its bad for your eyes. check your xorg.cfg file and check the values are correct there
[12:47] <cam> alberto_, i found this in the ubuntu forums: I experimented further and discovered that by unloading and reloading the snd_atiixp module sound worked, although I had to unmute everything and turn up the volume. Today sound worked without ant intervention from me. Very strange.
[12:47] <cam> alberto_, it's a guy w/ the same card/problem as you, you could give it a whirl
[12:47] <osiris> Karn: in the xorg.conf where can you change the refresh rate?
[12:48] <alberto_> cam i tried that
[12:48] <Karn> in the Section "Monitor"
[12:48] <sara_poo> I have a brand new amd64 ubuntu install, and X won't work, and I never set a root password.  I didn't expect this.  What did I miss?
[12:49] <Karn> osiris, HorizSync and VertRefresh
[12:49] <puddleboy> sara_poo, there is no root password in ubuntu
[12:49] <puddleboy> sara_poo,  you have to use sudo
[12:49] <alberto_> cam i got an error this time
[12:49] <puddleboy> sara_poo, and your current user password
[12:49] <alberto_> cam when i reloaded it,,,, look ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:14.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 193
[12:49] <alberto_> ATI IXP AC97 controller: probe of 0000:00:14.5 failed with error -13
[12:49] <Karn> puddleboy, are you saying there is no way to log in as root?
[12:49] <sara_poo> puddleboy: heh, interesting.  Ok i'll give it a shot.  I'm already in sudoers?
[12:49] <bulletbrain> you can give root a password if you like
[12:49] <osiris> at the momment there 31-81 and 56-75 which looks normal.
[12:50] <|2onan> hi
[12:50] <oofnik> hey guys, for some reason when i upgraded my kernel from 386 to 686-smp alsa is now broken.. any ideas?
[12:50] <|2onan> does anybody know how to do a CRC check under ubuntu?
[12:50] <Karn> osiris, then i dont know. sorry
[12:50] <puddleboy> Karn, no way that Im aware of yet =)
[12:50] <osiris> no probs thanks for the help anyway Karn
[12:51] <cam> alberto_, ok, there's a related error i found on google
[12:51] <Karn> oofnik, did you make sure alsa was compiled into your new kernel?
[12:51] <sara_poo> is there a way to search the apt-get repositories like with portage?  To see what available packages are there?  (apt-get --search blackbox??)
[12:51] <cam> alberto_, check this link out: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/No_sound_since_upgrade_to_Fedora_Core_2_Kernal_2.6.8-1.521_t28449.html
[12:51] <Wa77z> is there any ftp software for linux ?
[12:51] <Karn> puddleboy, there must be a way ... it makes no sense to not have a root account with access
[12:51] <sara_poo> Wa77z: client or server?
[12:51] <cam> alberto_, i gotta go home, there's tons of crap about your card on the web, search around
[12:51] <oofnik> Karn it is the ubuntu image kernel, i didn't compile it
[12:51] <bystander> sara_poo: apt-cache search <keyword>
[12:51] <|2onan> sara_poo, do sudo apt-cache search
[12:51] <Quest-Master> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=232986 <-- for anyone wanting to help a poor Ubuntu user with a dead X graphical interface.. :(
[12:52] <Karn> oofnik, then apt-get alsa-lib or whateva (i'm new to debian ... i'm used to emerge :))
[12:52] <sara_poo> Wa77z: ftp and gnome have gui's for ftp software, gtk-ftp and kftpgrabber i think, or soemthing like that
[12:52] <puddleboy> Karn, as best as I know, ubuntu is specifically built without a root account, all admin actions are done through superuser do
[12:52] <bystander> |2onan: sudo isn't needed for apt-cache search
[12:52] <|2onan> o haha
[12:52] <oofnik> Karn, crimsun helped me reinstall/recompile alsa a while ago to get it working, so apparently he had me do something that was kernel-specific and i haven't been able to get him on here since :-P
[12:52] <|2onan> cool i didn't know that
[12:52] <oofnik> so i'm stuck with 386 until i can talk to crimsun again
[12:52] <alberto_> cam thanks for the help :-) safe trip home
[12:53] <|2onan> bystander, do you know how to do a CRC check under ubuntu's terminal?
[12:53] <bystander> |2onan: nope, sorry
[12:53] <Dj_AlTeK> hey when i try to eject my music cd by right clicking, i get an eject error saying "unable to eject, last error: invalid argument". how do i get eject my cd then?
[12:53] <puddleboy> Karn, and it does make some sense - to make it easier/safer to use for the not so educated user, no one will be able to run their system as root all the time
[12:54] <puddleboy> Karn, which is a good thing imho
[12:54] <oofnik> eh.. well on another note, i can't seem to mount my ntfs partition without root only access, what should i do?
[12:54] <bystander> Dj_AlTeK: try ` sudo eject /dev/cdrom ` from a terminal
[12:54] <Karn> puddleboy, it is a good idea ... what would be better is if they had it the way it is but on install told you the root password for future reference
[12:55] <puddleboy> Karn, there is no root password
[12:55] <Karn> puddleboy, so you can just login root?
[12:55] <sara_poo> there is no root account it looks like
[12:55] <puddleboy> Karn, so you cannot login as root, at all
[12:55] <bulletbrain> you can make a root password
[12:55] <sara_poo> i think it's a good idea
[12:55] <bystander> Karn: no you can't :)
[12:55] <Dj_AlTeK> thanx again bystander
[12:55] <puddleboy> Karn, you could create a root user
[12:55] <bulletbrain> you can become root though
[12:55] <Karn> sara_poo, there is always a root account afaik
[12:55] <oofnik> tjat's what i did, sudo passwd root
[12:56] <oofnik> ubuntu comes default without a root account enabled
[12:56] <puddleboy> Karn, but out of fresh install, a root user does not exist
[12:56] <sara_poo> Karn: thats pretty neat, nobody knows root's password.  I hope my ubuntu system picked 'beer' as the root password.
[12:56] <dooglus_> is anyone familiar with the use of ssh-agent?
[12:56] <bystander> Karn: sudo -i  or sudo -s will give you a root shell
[12:56] <Karn> =S long time since i've used vi ... how do you quit again? :)
[12:56] <dooglus_> Karn: :q
[12:56] <puddleboy> i just do sudo sh
[12:56] <sara_poo>   :q
[12:56] <puddleboy> =)
[12:56] <dooglus_> puddleboy: or "sudo -s"
[12:56] <sara_poo> vi quit =   :q
[12:56] <bulletbrain> sara_poo, unless the user account is compromised
[12:56] <Karn> thanks all :)
[12:57] <oofnik> haha sara_poo you can just do sudo passwd root to create a root password and use the root account
[12:57] <dooglus_> sara_poo: you don't have a root password by default - you can't guess it - it doesn't exist
[12:57] <bulletbrain> sara_poo, then the attacker won't have to bother getting the root password AND the user password, only the user password to access root
[12:57] <sara_poo> oofnik: i'll just guess for a few days.  I don't think my system is that smart.
[12:57] <ukato> do i have to do anything special to set up or enable OpenGL?
[12:57] <oofnik> haha, alright whatever works :-P
[12:57] <rrittenhouse> Anyone here know any basic configuration of squid?
[12:57] <holycow> lol
[12:57] <holycow> yes
[12:57] <holycow> but
[12:57] <sara_poo> I was just kidding actually.
[12:57] <holycow> all the attacker now has to do is guess  REALLY REALLY weak user passwords
[12:57] <sara_poo> I'm trying to guess at whats wrong with X
[12:57] <oofnik> hey, when you're bored, guessing root passwords randomly can be fun...
[12:57] <holycow> WHICH IS THE ROOT PASSWORD BY PROXY via sudo
[12:58] <Karn> `sudo passwd root` works
[12:58] <oofnik> yup
[12:58] <sara_poo> su
[12:58] <sara_poo> beer
[12:58] <sara_poo> :)
[12:58] <sara_poo> sorry, wrong terminal
[12:58] <holycow> meaning i should be able to login into half ubuntu installs with 'dilbert' as pass and the other ones with 'god'
[12:58] <oofnik> haha good job
[12:58] <sara_poo> j/k
[12:58] <Karn> if its that easy to add a root password surely that itself is compromising security
[12:58] <dooglus_> sara_poo: for optimal security you should unset your own password too: "sudo passwd -l sara_poo"
[12:58] <sara_poo> lol
[12:58] <dooglus_> sara_poo: then the attacker won't be able to guess your password either.
[12:59] <sara_poo> dooglus_: good thinking
[12:59] <dooglus_> then turn the computer off and pull out the network cable.  for maximum security, burn the hard disk too.
[12:59] <sara_poo> I'd like to set up a cron job to do that daily
[12:59] <bystander> Karn: read the wiki on the root issue - the bot will give you the URL below
[12:59] <holycow> Karn, the effect of the default ubuntu install is that the restricted user is basically a root account with the one step of typing in their password, which in general is weak
[12:59] <bystander> !rootsudo
[12:59] <ubotu> methinks rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:59] <oofnik> i like how you think, dooglus
[12:59] <puddleboy> has anyone here installed UT
[12:59] <sara_poo> I have
[12:59] <sara_poo> puddleboy: i have
[12:59] <holycow> so yes, typical ubuntu accounts should be easily exploitable
[12:59] <bulletbrain> dooglus_, actually I'm stationed on a moon base and use sub space wifi to connect
[01:00] <puddleboy> sara_poo, how long does it take
[01:00] <dooglus_> bulletbrain: so what are you saying?  not enough oxygen to burn the hard disk?
[01:00] <oofnik> hah
[01:00] <puddleboy> sara_poo, its been sitting at Uncompressing Unreal..... for a while now
[01:00] <oofnik> yeah he needs the O2 for breathing not fire..
[01:00] <sara_poo> puddleboy: it only took about an hour to d/l and install with gentoo, you'll have to get the linux binaries from the site i think with ubunut
[01:00] <sara_poo> i'm new to ubuntu
[01:00] <puddleboy> sara_poo, I already have the ut-install.run file
[01:00] <dooglus_> is there a channel where I might find people who know about ssh and ssh-agent?
[01:01] <puddleboy> sara_poo, im referring to the actual installation program
[01:01] <puddleboy> sara_poo, how long does it take to install
[01:01] <oofnik> why doe ubuntu come with /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab? what's the diff between the two?
[01:01] <sara_poo> puddleboy: uncompressing for awhile?  that took my system literally 10 seconds...
[01:01] <puddleboy> sara_poo, weird
[01:01] <sara_poo> puddleboy: it should have the 'dots' as a progress meeter thing
[01:01] <puddleboy> sara_poo, something must be amiss in that case
[01:01] <sara_poo> puddleboy: if it's uncompressing top should show it using some cpu % i woudl think
[01:01] <Karn> oofnik, filesystem table .. media table - afaik
[01:01] <alberto_> does this mean that im having irq conflicts ?
[01:01] <sara_poo> puddleboy: you sure the install file is valid?
[01:01] <alberto_> ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:14.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 193
[01:01] <oofnik> ah i see
[01:01] <Karn> sorry ... mount table
[01:01] <dooglus_> oofnik: /etc/mtab is "what is mounted" and /etc/fstab is "what do I know how to mount"
[01:02] <oofnik> ah ok
[01:02] <dooglus_> oofnik: /etc/fstab stays the same size as you umount stuff, whereas /etc/mtab gets smaller
[01:02] <oofnik> can i add an entry to /etc/mtab or is that strictly what is mounted
[01:02] <dooglus_> oofnik: you shouldn't edit it
[01:02] <oofnik> alright
[01:02] <odie5533> how do I mount a usb flash drive?
[01:03] <oofnik> dooglus_ what is used to automount my USB external?
[01:03] <wolverian> odie5533: just plug it in.
[01:03] <odie5533> it isnt mounting
[01:03] <oofnik> and put that nifty little desktop icon there
[01:03] <Punkcut> i need some help dual booting ubunto hoary and windows xp, but i dont want to put GRUB on the mbr, Ive tried booting into a terminal with a rescue disk and chroot to the ubuntu install and then dd=if/dev/hdc6 of=/mnt/fatswap/linux.bin bs=512 count=1. I then put this in my C:\ folder and added it to boot.ini. However when i try to boot into the ubuntu install i get GRUB and then it hangs. How can i fix this?
[01:03] <dooglus_> oofnik: I don't know.  it's magic.  it just works (for about 10 minutes, after which it just crashes) for me
[01:03] <oofnik> odie5533 check dmesg
[01:03] <oofnik> haha, that sucks.. yeah fortunately it works flawless for me :)
[01:03] <odie5533> what am i looking for
[01:03] <sara_poo> does anyone have any idea how to setup control+alt+F2/f3/f4 to swap tty's from inside X?  I'm trying to trouble shoot some x problems, and other distros had that as the default I think
[01:04] <oofnik> odie5533 anything usb - related
[01:04] <odie5533> urg ill just use good ol windows
[01:04] <dooglus_> sara_poo: it's the default in ubuntu too
[01:04] <odie5533> always works
[01:04] <sara_poo> dooglus_: so X must be freezing then, if i can't swap terminals
[01:04] <kyncani> Punkcut: you don't want to put grub in the mbr ? why is that ???
[01:04] <bystander> sara_poo: should be exactly the same on Ubuntu
[01:04] <sara_poo> dooglus_: gdm lets me log in, then everything stops
[01:04] <holycow> how do you mount a usb flash drive?
[01:04] <dooglus_> sara_poo: I sometimes find that ctrl-alt-f1 won't get me anywhere - but that's when X has crashed, yes.
[01:04] <sara_poo> dooglus_: no messages in my xorg.log either
[01:04] <holycow> you put it in the usb port
[01:04] <dooglus_> sara_poo: breezy?
[01:04] <holycow> wtf kind of question is that?
[01:05] <holycow> :)
[01:05] <sara_poo> dooglus_:I got the default download, and just put the disk in
[01:05] <sara_poo> dooglus_: i would guess it's not breezy
[01:05] <sara_poo> dooglus_: nope, it's hedgehog one
[01:05] <bulletbrain> holycow, one that shouldn't be asked twice when it was just answered less than 5 minutes ago :)
[01:05] <oofnik> anyone know what the default charset is for FAT / NTFS filesystems? it is using utf8 and i don't want case sensitive
[01:05] <holycow> bulletbrain, heh :) then i guess its appropriate he went back to windows
[01:05] <dooglus_> sara_poo: I find that the most common cause for hanging is something to do with /usr/bin/esd.  try "sudo chmod 0 /usr/bin/esd" and see if that fixes it
[01:05] <Punkcut> kyncani > my windows install is my primary OS, and unfortunately windows does not take kindly to having its boot sector overwritten. it just manipulates the windows install less
[01:06] <oofnik> odie5533 don't use windows...
[01:06] <Dj_AlTeK> hey what other cd burning programs do they have besides k3b?
[01:06] <dooglus_> sara_poo: make a note of the permissions it should have first though, so you can put it back
[01:06] <bulletbrain> holycow, they'll be back
[01:06] <oofnik> it may work but come on, don't you like the linux challenge!
[01:06] <sara_poo> ok, i gave that a shot.  I'll try to start X from a tty in -- :1 to see if maybe i can get back
[01:06] <holycow> bulletbrain, haha! funny, yes indeed :)
[01:06] <bulletbrain> and people ask where the games are for Linux, THESE are the games! :)
[01:06] <sara_poo> it's a full system freeze though, I've never seen that with X.  (it's a pretty standard system, nvidia, amd64, etc.)
[01:06] <bystander> Dj_AlTeK: graveman, gnome-baker
[01:06] <bimberi> Dj_AlTeK: gnomebaker, graveman and nautilus
[01:06] <bulletbrain> learning games ;)
[01:07] <dooglus_> sara_poo: sometimes I log in from gdm and it hangs, but I can ctrl-alt-f1 and log in to a vc - and then if I pkill esd, the X session will un-hang
[01:07] <ukato> do i have to do anything special to set up or enable OpenGL?
[01:07] <kyncani> Punkcut: never had any problem with that, windows can be installed on the first partition, linux on the second, grub in mbr and everythgin should be fine
[01:07] <sara_poo> dooglus_: whats esd  ? sound daemon for enlightenment?
[01:07] <sara_poo> dooglus_: maybe i'll kill that all together first, just to make sure it's the problem?
[01:07] <oofnik> dooglus_ does pkill do the same as killall
[01:07] <dooglus_> sara_poo: "esound" - it's what gnome uses by default
[01:07] <oofnik> and kill
[01:07] <oofnik> for that matter
[01:07] <dooglus_>        pgrep,  pkill  -  look  up  or signal processes based on name and other
[01:07] <dooglus_>        attributes
[01:08] <Punkcut> kyncani > so when the install program asks to isntall grub on the mbr it should be ok to hit ok?
[01:08] <kyncani> Punkcut: yeah
[01:08] <oofnik> oh ok
[01:08] <kyncani> Punkcut: and grub should be able to start windows just fine
[01:08] <holycow> bulletbrain learning games ;)  <-- indeed, people ask me why i never play games, linux is far more interesting and challenging than any game :)
[01:08] <sara_poo> holycow: windows is very challenging also
[01:09] <sara_poo> holycow: windowsupdate is a game
[01:09] <holycow> rofl
[01:09] <sara_poo> i can never keep up
[01:09] <holycow> haha
[01:09] <oofnik> haha that's just becuase microsoft sucks...
[01:09] <oofnik> they can't keep up either
[01:09] <ukato> anyone use fluxbox?
[01:09] <oofnik> win xp though isn't as bad
[01:09] <sara_poo> ok, imma kill esound, try to start x, if it hangs i'll be back in 10 minutes
[01:09] <sara_poo> ukato: I use to, until apt-cache search didn't find it.
[01:09] <bystander> ukato: yes- what's the issue?
[01:09] <sara_poo> ukato: lol, i'll look for that later i guess
[01:10] <Punkcut> windows update is so incredibly simple
[01:10] <ukato> heh
[01:10] <ukato> okay so, it starts really slow
[01:10] <sara_poo> Punkcut: did you know it runs on freebsd?
[01:10] <Punkcut> some people just look for some kind of challenge when there is none
[01:10] <dooglus_> bystander: you sure about that?  I use breezy and still have all kinds of esd problems
[01:10] <ukato> there wsa a workaround, but i forgot it
[01:10] <oofnik> synaptic update isn't hard at all either!
[01:10] <sara_poo> windows update runs on freebsd.  Or it did a while back, not sure about anymore
[01:10] <Punkcut> sara_poo nope had no idea... wouldnt understand why youd want it to
[01:10] <bystander> dooglus_: crimsun told me they were going to deep-six esd
[01:11] <bystander> fwiw
[01:11] <oofnik> is there anything that could possibly happen that i wouldn't want upgrading from 2.6.10-5 to 2.6.10-34?
[01:11] <dooglus_> deep-six?
[01:11] <dooglus_> wossat?
[01:11] <oofnik> trash it
[01:11] <nalioth_wrkn> dooglus_: 6 feet under
[01:11] <bystander> ukato: you need to recompile it with --disable-xmb (it's a bug)
[01:11] <dooglus_> ooh.
[01:11] <oofnik> whats wrong with esd?
[01:12] <bystander> oofnik: everything
[01:12] <oofnik> like..
[01:12] <dooglus_> oofnik: it's laggy for me, and it also seems to cause gnome to hang on startup most of the time (in breezy)
[01:12] <oofnik> oh well that's no fun
[01:12] <ukato> bystander, how do i recompile
[01:12] <oofnik> what's the stable kernel in breezy now?
[01:12] <ukato> is it hard =p
[01:12] <chombee> Hello - has anyone had experience with a GNOME menu editor that worked recently? I've found they don't fully work and now my menus are all messed up because of them, wondered what the current state of the various editors is
[01:12] <bystander> oofnik: it wants to hold on to everything sound-related with a vise-like grip
[01:13] <dooglus_> oofnik: if I use esd, pausing a music track takes a noticeable time, as does restarting playback.  with alsa it's instantanous
[01:13] <oofnik> yeah, alsa is nice
[01:13] <sara_poo> should esd show up in ps ax | grep esd?
[01:13] <oofnik> chombee try this: sudo killall gnome-panel
[01:13] <bystander> ukato: not really - search the users mailing list for "slow fluxbox"
[01:13] <dooglus_> I do "ps -ef | grep esd"
[01:13] <chombee> oofnik - why?
[01:13] <lcarlos> how can i change mi nick in gaim????
[01:13] <oofnik> it will restart the gnome panel
[01:14] <dooglus_> that shows it for sure
[01:14] <dooglus_> (only it doesn't any more, 'cos it's chmod 0'ed)
[01:15] <chombee> oofnik - that isn't the problem, (the laptop has been restarted plenty of times), I think the editors really messed up the .desktop files
[01:15] <oofnik> hmm.. chombee i don't know what you could do, when you say messed up, what is wrong with it? things are just missing?
[01:16] <dooglus_> lcarlos: in the buddy window go to 'accounts' in 'tools' menu and add the account for your new nick
[01:16] <oofnik> ahh, where is crimsun
[01:16] <dooglus_> lcarlos: or if you mean you want to change your nick in the same account, you still use the accounts window - edit "alias" for the account
[01:17] <chope> hi, how can I make ubuntu reconfigure my hardware?
[01:17] <TheKarn> is there a search utility for apt-get?
[01:17] <oofnik> chope, why do you want to do that
[01:17] <sara_poo> TheKarn: apt-cache search
[01:17] <holycow> http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/06/jkontherun_gues.html  <-- neato
[01:17] <holycow> based on debian linux
[01:17] <TheKarn> sara_poo, thanks :)
[01:17] <bystander> TheKarn: apt-cache search <keyword>
[01:17] <holycow> who knows, perhaps one can muck ubuntu onto such a thing
[01:17] <sara_poo> TheKarn: np.  I'm an expert.
[01:18] <Wa77z> guys..i am having problems getting my sound to work
[01:18] <bystander> sara_poo: ;)
[01:18] <dooglus_> TheKarn: if you're searching for a file within a package that you might not have installed, "apt-file search" is what you want
[01:18] <dooglus_> TheKarn: you'll want to "apt-file update" first
[01:19] <TheKarn> ok ... i'm looking for JAVA SDK ... but its not there :(
[01:19] <dooglus_> apt-cache search will search for package names, not file names
[01:19] <bulletbrain> weee, new version of WINE out today
[01:19] <bystander> !restricted
[01:19] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:19] <oofnik> Wa77z what card do you have
[01:19] <bystander> TheKarn: read ubotu's URL
[01:19] <bulletbrain> among the new feature in today's WINE release: "Initial support for webcams" wow.. didn't expect that
[01:19] <chombee> oofnik - yeah, things are missing from the menus, what is in the menus doesn't always match what the editors think is in the menus, some stuff appears in more than one menu even though it shouldn't
[01:19] <Wa77z> i have onbaord sound on a ATI mobo
[01:20] <oofnik> chombe do you have smeg installed
[01:20] <Augusto> hola
[01:20] <TheKarn> bystander, "There are detailed instructions for installing Sun's [Java]  available." ... but where?
[01:20] <chombee> oofnik - yeah, also tried another one before that
[01:20] <bystander> !java
[01:20] <ubotu> from memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[01:20] <Augusto> hay alguna persona latinoamericana?
[01:21] <sara_poo> is it possible i don't have a window manager?  Where is gnome-start ?
[01:21] <sara_poo> start-gnome ?
[01:21] <bulletbrain> TheKarn, planet ubuntu had a small piece on that the other day
[01:21] <oofnik> chombee, unfortunately i don't know what to do, sorry :-/
[01:21] <oofnik> sara_poo /etc/init.d/gdm start should do it
[01:21] <chombee> oofnik - thanks anyway
[01:21] <oofnik> yup
[01:21] <sara_poo> oofnik: i have to use a login manager?  I'd prefer not to
[01:21] <dooglus_> sara_poo: you don't have to, no.
[01:22] <Augusto> soy el unico argentino?
[01:22] <bystander> sara_poo: startx `which gnome-session`
[01:22] <sara_poo> i'm sorry guys, but if i could just get X running i could RTFM a bit better then in this tty with 80x30 chars
[01:22] <dooglus_> gnome-session is /usr/bin/gnome-session
[01:22] <chope> augusto yo soy uruguayo si sirve de consuelo
[01:22] <Augusto> jajaja
[01:23] <TheKarn> o.0 deb command not found
[01:23] <bystander> dooglus_: yeah, backticks cut down on typing ;)
[01:23] <Augusto> que haces vecino???
[01:23] <orso> i must say i start to like debian
[01:23] <Augusto> somos los unicos
[01:23] <dooglus_> bystander: I don't like backticks.  I much prefer $(...)
[01:23] <TheKarn> if it wasnt for the awquard install i'd prefer gentoo :(
[01:23] <bystander> dooglus_: true, easier to read as well
[01:23] <chope> esto es mas bien de los angloparlantes
[01:23] <Augusto> blanco y azul, son los colores del glorioso liverpool
[01:23] <forsaken|lappy> does anyone know why ubuntu wouldn't be configuring my ps2 mouse correctly?
[01:24] <oofnik> sara_poo i don't know how to start gnome without gdm..
[01:24] <dooglus_> bystander: and they avoid issues with quoting, and they also nest nicely
[01:24] <forsaken|lappy> (it doesn't even turn on (optical))
[01:24] <Augusto> no hay otro igual, en la republica oriental del uruguay
[01:24] <bystander> dooglus_: all true!
[01:24] <Wa77z> i need help getting sound to work ..i have onbaord on a ATI mobo...sound works randomly and is mostly broken
[01:24] <dooglus_> bystander: is there some way of using backticks inside an irc client?  I'm guessing you though that I did a `type gnome-session` or something?
[01:25] <dooglus_> (whereas really I just copy-and-pasted with the mouse)
[01:25] <bystander> dooglus_: I don't know - haven't tried it :)
[01:26] <bystander> /usr/bin/gnome-session
[01:26] <oofnik> Wa77z what happens when you try alsamixer
[01:26] <bystander> dooglus_: yup
[01:26] <Wa77z> it comes up with my color bar graphs
[01:26] <bystander> works with /exec -o echo `which gnome-session`
[01:26] <dooglus_> can anyone help me with this?  I'm used to being able to run "ssh-agent", use "ssh-add" to add my key to it, then ssh onto a whole chain of boxes and have none of them ask me for my password.
[01:27] <oofnik> look for something called IEC958
[01:27] <oofnik> if alsamixer comes up, it means alsa is working
[01:27] <dooglus_> but it's not working from this pc.  I can log onto the first box without a password, but once I'm there, SSH_AUTH_SOCK isn't set
[01:27] <Wa77z> i dont see anything of that sort
[01:27] <james_ed> question...
[01:28] <james_ed> hello btw all
[01:28] <Wa77z> well i am just plain out confused
[01:28] <james_ed> i have a p95F viewsonic...
[01:29] <TheKarn> what is the problem with the Java in ubuntu? i know its restricted but why? gentoo seems to have no problem :S
[01:29] <james_ed> the login screen has vertical freaky lines...but when login...lines clear up...
[01:29] <oofnik> Wa77z what happens when you try to play sounds, and what programs are you using?
[01:29] <bulletbrain> TheKarn, if you install it correctly there is no problem
[01:29] <Wa77z> i have used gaim
[01:30] <Wa77z> the IM sounds work some of the time
[01:30] <Wa77z> mostly broken though
[01:30] <oofnik> have you tried xmms?
[01:30] <bystander> TheKarn: licensing issues I guess: you'd have to ask Canonical I suppose
[01:30] <oofnik> i had to configure gaim to use ALSA
[01:30] <stazz> TheKarn: gentoo kinda has a way around it :)
[01:30] <Wa77z> i dont know what that is..i would have to say no
[01:30] <TheKarn> bulletbrain, ok ... well i'm on a livecd so i dont want to waste time downloading and installing. i just wanted to see how easy apt-get was to use and what was available
[01:30] <stazz> TheKarn: the gentoo policy is a much looser policy
[01:31] <bulletbrain> TheKarn, how are you liking the livecd?
[01:31] <TheKarn> bulletbrain, nice and clean install but nothing special from what i can see.
[01:32] <TheKarn> bulletbrain, i'm missing my emerge :) but its nice not to have a lengthy install
[01:32] <james_ed> when i create an additional user...the lines won't go away even after logging in
[01:32] <oofnik> Wa77z xmms is basically the linux winamp
[01:32] <bulletbrain> TheKarn, :)
[01:32] <oofnik> Wa77z try some other sound enabled programs
[01:32] <Wa77z> let me try it
[01:32] <bulletbrain> TheKarn, I've never tried the livecd
[01:32] <Wa77z> i am inMusic Player Right Now
[01:32] <TheKarn> bulletbrain, well ... was all going well till now ... i cant load firefox =S
[01:32] <oofnik> is it working?
[01:33] <oofnik> Wa77z check out this FAQ for gaim http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q23
[01:33] <Wa77z> its buffering
[01:33] <Wa77z> lol
[01:33] <Wa77z> i dont have any songs
[01:33] <oofnik> oh ok
[01:33] <Wa77z> yes it is
[01:33] <Wa77z> it works
[01:33] <Wa77z> has not broken yet
[01:34] <oofnik> ok good
[01:34] <oofnik> check out that FAQ i posted, i've got to go though so good luck, later everyone
[01:34] <Wa77z> later
[01:34] <TheKarn> ok really not going well now ... nautilus has crashed =S
[01:34] <TheKarn> "yay ubuntu"
[01:34] <Wa77z> any one got any good suggestions for FTP software
[01:35] <sara_poo> x froze up again on startx :(
[01:35] <Cervantes_> I've a question for all the good people here: when I plug my USB key into my computer, will it automount it?  If so, where?  If not, how do I mount it manually?  Thanks :)
[01:35] <Augusto> chope is gay
[01:36] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: depends on udev, most likely will mount it.  watch your dmesg and see what device it gets connected as, do a fdisk -l /dev/sda (example) to see the partitions available to mount, and configure udev (unless automatically done for you)
[01:36] <Augusto> and he se la morfa
[01:36] <holycow> http://www.nokia770.com/   <-- the have a live cd for the nokia 770
[01:36] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: but don't listen to me, cause i can't get x to work
[01:36] <holycow> "CD is based on Benix which is based on Kanotix which is based on Knoppix which is based on Debian"
[01:36] <holycow> wow
[01:36] <holycow> finally a company that gets linux
[01:36] <holycow> *sniff*
[01:36] <james_ed> vertical line issue on login screen issue...any suggestions?
[01:37] <Augusto> i dont know any people
[01:37] <jpie> Hi. Is ubuntu easier to install for newer users? I am having several problems with debian, and no one will guide me to fix them. I tried Ubuntu but was having problems with the installer. If I explain the problem can someone try and tell me what to do?
[01:37] <Augusto> can you help me?
[01:37] <dooglus_> aah - I worked out my ssh-agent issue.  you have to put "ForwardAgent yes" in ~/.ssh/config to get ssh to pass ssh-agent details on to the hosts it connects to.
[01:37] <dooglus_> (just for the record)
[01:37] <Cervantes_> Thanks sara_poo.  Unfortunately, you lost me pretty quickly.  :(  Could you elaborate a little on "dmseg" and "udev"
[01:38] <Augusto> i am argentino
[01:38] <dooglus_> jpie: you could ask, and see if we can help
[01:38] <jpie> okeys. Gimme a sec. going to load up the disk.
[01:38] <Augusto> my mother lo sigue always
[01:38] <bystander> Augusto: try /join #ubuntu-es
[01:38] <bassinboy> what program to use to play .mov ?
[01:39] <Wa77z> are there p2p apps for linux ?
[01:39] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: make sure your device is unplugged
[01:39] <sara_poo> Wa77z: yup
[01:39] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: and do a dmesg
[01:39] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: then plug it in, and do dmesg again
[01:39] <bassinboy> Wa77z: Windows aint got nothin on Linux when it comes to apps
[01:39] <parabolize> bassinboy: xine or mplayer.
[01:39] <Cervantes_> okay, I'll try that sara_poo
[01:39] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: thats your system recognizing it, prolly as sd something
[01:39] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: my ipod is sda
[01:39] <bassinboy> parabolize: tansk
[01:39] <jpie> ...
[01:40] <tman> Hey ookii are you in here?
[01:40] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: my usb key is sdb, and my removeable hd is sdc
[01:40] <Wa77z> lol
[01:40] <Wa77z> sweet..dude..my sound is still broken
[01:40] <Wa77z> wtf
[01:40] <Cervantes_> sara_poo: Slow down a sec. ;)  How do I "do dmesg".   Now that I installed a bad version of Debian, I have GRUB, and it doesnt check to see if CD-Rom will be bootable.  Can anyone help? I just need to uninstall GRUB or Debian atleast. I am a complete newbie to linux just trying to test it out on a different comp.
[01:40] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: yup, type 'dmesg'
[01:40] <sara_poo> in terminal
[01:40] <Wa77z> whats ur fav
[01:41] <sara_poo> Wa77z: itunes :)
[01:41] <Cervantes_> sara_poo: That's what I figured.  Except, it says the command is not found.  I'm on 4.10
[01:41] <Wa77z> ya..sure
[01:41] <holycow> jpie, that has nothing to do with grub
[01:41] <jpie> people tell me to just reboot andp ut cd in drive, but it doesnt work. GRUB is taking over the first to boot.
[01:41] <Wa77z> u got i tunes hack
[01:41] <holycow> jpie, thats a bios setting
[01:41] <jpie> Bios is set to have CDrom drive first.
[01:41] <dooglus_> jpie: did you look at your BIOS settings?  in there you can tell it to boot from the CD first
[01:41] <sara_poo> dmesg
[01:41] <tman> I need help with libdvdcss library not being recognized.  Any takers?
[01:41] <dooglus_> jpie: aah.
[01:41] <dooglus_> jpie: have you ever been able to boot from the CD?
[01:41] <jpie> cdroim 1st, floppy 2nd, HDD 3rd,
[01:41] <jpie> Yes
[01:42] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: dmesg is in /bin  should be in every users path
[01:42] <jpie> before i installed debian/grub..
[01:42] <bassinboy> parabolize: xine crashes ><
[01:42] <jpie> did it late last night so didnt get to play with it much. Now I come back today and nothing works..
[01:42] <holycow> jpie, it still has nothing to do with grub
[01:42] <holycow> jpie, it means either your cdrom is bad, or your cdrom is not recognized properly
[01:42] <parabolize> bassinboy: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[01:42] <dooglus_> jpie: I ask because I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago.  that was on a computer with a DVD and a CDROM on the same IDE cable.  The DVD was the 'master', and wouldn't boot.  I switched the jumpers on both drivers, so the CDROM was the master, and after that I could boot the ubuntu install disk.
[01:42] <holycow> jpie, grub only gives you the debian options ONCE THE BIOS HAS DECIDED TO BOOT FROM THE HD
[01:43] <jpie> How does it not have anything to do with GRUB? GRUB will not let me boot from cddrive. whenever i start up it goes straight to GRUB..
[01:43] <bassinboy> man every freakin  program has crashed on me... i didn't know ubuntu was this bad
[01:43] <WMCoolmon> does anyone know why two separate network cards (a linksys and a d-link) wouldn't work under kubuntu?
[01:43] <holycow> oh what dooglus said, check cable thats one most newbs miss
[01:43] <Cervantes_> sara_poo:  Oh okay, didn't know I had to cd.  Thanks, I'll try matching these messages up now
[01:43] <jpie> I only have 1 optical drive...
[01:43] <budluva> WMCoolmon, dont know, but i run 2 nics in my ubuntu box no problems
[01:43] <dooglus_> jpie: I couldn't work out how to take the drives out, so I spent a few hours with a pair of tweezers and a torch to switch the jumpers over.  most fun I've had in months.
[01:43] <holycow> jpie, we don't like repeating our selves, primarily because we don't go out of our way to lie to you
[01:43] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: you don't have to cd.    I know that some drives won't boot the ubuntu CD, even though they'll boot other CDs
[01:44] <jpie> okay, so why does it skip the cdrom? It didnt do it before i installed debian to the harddrive.
[01:44] <dooglus_> jpie: on the same disk?
[01:44] <holycow> jpie, BECAUSE YOUR CDROM ISN'T BEING RECOGNIZED, YOUR CD IS BAD, YOUR CDROM IDE CABLE IS FAULTY
[01:44] <bassinboy> parabolize: link doesn't seem to work, check it
[01:44] <jpie> It booted ubuntu cd, debian cd, or any other cd, before debian installed. I havent changed anything.
[01:45] <sara_poo> what file can i change to lower my runlevel, so gdm doesn't kick off at boot time?
[01:45] <holycow> your jumper settings on your devices are wrong
[01:45] <sara_poo> or xdm, or whatever that thing is
[01:45] <jpie> Okay
[01:45] <holycow> grub has NOTHIGN TO DO WITH BOOTING OFF THE CDROM
[01:45] <bystander> jpie: you don't seem to be paying attention...
[01:45] <bassinboy> parabolize: nvm, it was my browser
[01:45] <parabolize> bassinboy: yes it works
[01:45] <holycow> sorry, just wanted to make that lear :)
[01:45] <jpie> I most certainly am..
[01:45] <jpie> But everything was FINE
[01:45] <dooglus_> it's unlikely to be any of those 3, holycow?  he used to be able to boot the ubuntu cd, and hasn't changed anything.
[01:45] <jpie> before
[01:45] <holycow> dooglus_, it most certainly is
[01:46] <holycow> grub has nothing to do with booting off the cdrom
[01:46] <jpie> and now I cant choose anything but to boot debian
[01:46] <jpie> -NOTHING- has changed.
[01:46] <sara_poo> dooglus_: if your bios is set to look at your cdrom first, it won't see your mbr at all
[01:46] <bystander> jpie: then something has gone wrong with your BIOS or hardware
[01:46] <dooglus_> jpie: did you open the machine?
[01:46] <jpie> machine is opened all the time.
[01:46] <sara_poo> dooglus_: it'll be looking at the mbr on your cdrom, did grub right to that? (neat trick...)
[01:46] <sara_poo> *write
[01:46] <biffurt> can anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using?   What should I be looking for in particular?  I notice there's a lot of "Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block ..." and some other things with sda, even though my usb key is plugged in.  I know what a jumper is, but donno where its found. I'll pull comp over here and look. Also, my IDE cable is hooked to my hd & cd drive
[01:49] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: what filesystem is your usb key?
[01:49] <bystander> holycow: I suspect it was rhetorical
[01:49] <holycow> ah :) then i withdraw if so
[01:49] <Cervantes_> FAT, I believe
[01:50] <cafuego> yes, I'm with Debian and in weeks time we're going to find Ubuntu users and kill them with pitchforks.
[01:50] <Cervantes_> sara_poo: FAT, I believe. I can plug it into my windows machine if need be to check
[01:50] <dooglus_> no, it was asked out of ignorance.  I've been using mandrake for a couple of years and am really quite new to the whole .deb thing
[01:50] <Mez> :P
[01:50] <holycow> thats okay, ubuntu and debian are NOT in competition
[01:50] <Mez> CoC people
[01:50] <airmikey> need to find out how much ram is installed ,and how much is being used
[01:51] <dooglus_> i read somewhere that a lot of people started using ubuntu because debian was taking so long to release sarge.  I'm wondering if the release of sarge will draw people back to debian, away from ubuntu
[01:51] <Cervantes_> sara_poo: Yep, it's FAT.  Just checked
[01:51] <holycow> ubuntu just freezes debian unstable every 6 months and polishes it up for a Desktop system
[01:51] <cafuego> airmikey: 'free'
[01:51] <biffurt> can anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working
[01:51] <dao> hey
[01:51] <dao> i got a question
[01:51] <bystander> airmikey: cat /proc/meminfo
[01:51] <dao> i just installed ubuntu, and it never asked to set up a root password
[01:51] <calc> holycow: except for the part about debian unstable being out of date ;)
[01:51] <holycow> which happens to be a very SPECIAL instance of a distro, debian is a little more generic and you can do a lot more with it but it rerquires a lot more elbow grease too
[01:51] <calc> holycow: eg xorg
[01:51] <dao> ... im a gentoo user.. just switched over to try it out
[01:51] <jpie> okay
[01:51] <sara_poo> how do i set gdm to not run at boot time?  I think i need to lower my run level?
[01:51] <dao> anyone heard of this situation?
[01:51] <jpie> can i get a second ide cable
[01:52] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: what message do you get when you try to mount it?
[01:52] <jpie> and plug the cddrive into a second ide slot on the mobo?
[01:52] <holycow> calc, hehe, *nod* i'm glossing over that with 'elbow grease' :)
[01:52] <calc> dao: there is no root password
[01:52] <holycow> they will get there, debian should not be interefered with tho, they do great work
[01:52] <dao> what the....
[01:52] <bystander> sara_poo: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and comment it out
[01:52] <dao> how can there be no root?
[01:52] <Mez> dooglus_ debian and ubuntu are working really well together, ubuntu takes a lot from debian, but it's also giving back for the simple fact that when ubuntu devs fix bugs, they send them back to be fixed in debain/upstream - which contributes to the community as a whole... I think debian and ubuntu work well togehter... :D
[01:52] <calc> dao: root is locked out by default and the main user has sudo access
[01:52] <dao> hmm...
[01:52] <dao> so ... how do i get root?
[01:52] <Mez> dao: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:52] <dooglus_> dao "sudo -s"
[01:52] <sara_poo> dao: you have to hack it
[01:53] <holycow> what mez said, please note: ubuntu freezes debian unstable EVERY 6 MONTHS
[01:53] <sara_poo> dao: to probe yourself to the ubuntu gods
[01:53] <calc> i do sudo su -, but there are probably other ways
[01:53] <dao> what the
[01:53] <Mez> holycow... not exactly... but thereabouts
[01:53] <sara_poo> did debian users steal the root user or somethign?
[01:53] <dao> kinda odd isnt it?
[01:53] <holycow> outside of a number of customizations that are added on later, it is defacto debian by virtue of its dev process
[01:53] <dao> cuz sudo -s asked for a password
[01:53] <airmikey> cafuego: thx
[01:53] <sara_poo> dao: just sudo everything
[01:53] <dooglus_> holycow: when did/will breezy freeze debian stable?
[01:53] <airmikey> bystander:thx
[01:53] <calc> dao: the password sudo asks for is your own
[01:53] <Cervantes_> sara_poo: That depends on what I type in when trying to mount it.  The first thing I tried (found some code at ubuntuforums.org) was "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[01:53] <dao> SUDO asks for a password
[01:54] <bystander> airmikey: no problem :)
[01:54] <dao> and i dont know the root password...
[01:54] <holycow> dooglus_, check ubuntu website, schedule is on there
[01:54] <airmikey> how much is  906660
[01:54] <dooglus_> dao it wants your password, not root's
[01:54] <dao> mine doesnt work
[01:54] <Mez> dao - sudo asks for the current users password as a reaffirmation that someone hasnt just walked up and typesd "sudop" bla!"
[01:54] <sara_poo> dao: Cervantes_ what ddi that say?
[01:54] <Cervantes_> sara_poo: Typing that yields: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[01:54] <dooglus_> Mez: only if nobody used sudo in the last 5 (?) minutes
[01:54] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: try sda2
[01:54] <dao> nvm i hacked this thing ;)
[01:54] <dao> thanks
[01:54] <dooglus_> Mez: otherwise it doesn't ask them
[01:54] <calc> dao: is the user you are logged in as the user you created during install?
[01:54] <dao> bbl
[01:54] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: try this too:  fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:55] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: that will list the partitions on /dev/sda
[01:55] <Mez> true dooglus - but that's something that cna be easily changed if you're scared ;)
[01:55] <dao> i was baffled by this lol.. first linux distro with no root that ive used
[01:55] <calc> dao: the only person with sudo access by default on an ubuntu install is the user created during install
[01:55] <dao> no "root".. as in, you set it up that way
[01:55] <holycow> dooglus_, of course, don't be repeating anything i told you about ubuntu in #debian, they would be *cough* highly offended *cough*
[01:55] <holycow> hehe :)
[01:55] <sara_poo> ok, off to crash x again
[01:55] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: i'll be back in a minute
[01:55] <Cervantes_> sara_poo: Tried the fdisk and it did not return anything
[01:55] <biffurt> can anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working
[01:55] <Cervantes_> sara_poo: ok
[01:55] <Mez> sara_poo, updating to breezy ? :P
[01:55] <dooglus_> holycow: is it just me, or is the ubuntu website very hard to find anything on?
[01:55] <ookii> i think about about to move back to deb (based on someone's reccomendation in this channel actually), is it going to be really hard to get to where ubuntu is upon normal installation?
[01:55] <sara_poo> Mez: no, just new to ubuntu, and for some reason X crashes on login
[01:55] <puddleboy> i am fairly certain my dog is indeed retarded.
[01:55] <dooglus_> holycow: I find the easiest way to nagivate it is by using google!
[01:55] <ookii> bah i'm about
[01:55] <holycow> dooglus_, not you, google the site, its easier
[01:56] <sara_poo> Mez: gdm works, np, but i type a username/password then my system freezes
[01:56] <Mez> ah sounds fun sara_poo have you tried reconfiguring X ?
[01:56] <holycow>  lol yeah :)
[01:56] <Cervantes_> What does sda mean, btw?
[01:56] <dooglus_> holycow: it's a pretty site, but a nagivational nightmare
[01:56] <sara_poo> Mez: i just commented out 1/2 of my xorg.conf, all modules, etc.
[01:56] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: 'scsi devia a i think?
[01:56] <Mez> hmm - not good idea sara_poo you shoudlktn edit it manually
[01:56] <sara_poo> Cervantes_: it's scsi emulation i think
[01:56] <Mez> if yous till need help after - PM me and I'll try help youk sara_poo
[01:57] <Cervantes_> sara_poo ooh ok :)
[01:57] <sara_poo> Mez: ok, thanks for the help
[01:57] <holycow> dooglus_, well yeah i guess, but i'm not one to complain.  perhaps a good cms is called for, i donno
[01:57] <jpie> omg okay
[01:57] <jpie> its at the ubuntu screen.
[01:57] <jpie> I switched the ide cable around
[01:57] <dooglus_> holycow: even a google search for "site:www.ubuntulinux.org breezy" doesn't find the date that breezy was/(will be) frozen
[01:57] <Mez> dooglus: rthat would be becaus eit's on udu.wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:57] <Mez> or udu.ubuntu.com/wiki
[01:58] <Mez> July 7th = upstream version freeze (ish)
[01:58] <Mez> http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[01:58] <jpie> however. The last time i installed, it stopped on opening a package. went to 1%, then screen reset, and it tried opening the same package again, after going to 1%, it reset monitor. it did this about 15-20 times, and then just sat at a blank screen with blinking cursor.
[01:58] <holycow> dooglus_, i think there may be an overall 'good' idea behind the organization of ubuntu, i haven't clued into it yet, i'm too busy using it to do work on
[01:58] <holycow> :)
[01:58] <dao> cant apt-get install fluxbox eh
[01:58] <dao> :(
[01:59] <LexiCon[gsr-dj] > ok...can anyone help me set up my ethernet card? it wasn't detected by the system when I installed :(
[01:59] <jpie> Anyone in reference to what problem I am having?
[01:59] <Mez> dao - yes you can
[01:59] <dao> how do i update the application list?
[01:59] <holycow> dooglus_, mostly tho next version of ubuntu isn't as important as the next versions of say open office, gnome, kde, and other biggies.  gnome 2.10 has really made me love desktop linux
[01:59] <Mez> dao - but ti's in universe
[01:59] <dao> so how do i do it?
[01:59] <holycow> LexiCon[gsr-dj] , do you know what model and make the nic is?
[02:00] <holycow> LexiCon[gsr-dj] , generally if debian/ubuntu don't detect it, it means its obscure and not supported
[02:00] <Juhaz> holycow, hardly anyone is going to install those by hand, though, so distros are just as important in getting the "biggies" to users
[02:00] <chromate> has anybody else noticed that the torrents are not working?
[02:00] <Mez> dao: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <Mez> it t will have instructions tin there
[02:01] <holycow> Juhaz, *nod* good point agreed
[02:01] <holycow> chromate, what do you mean?
[02:01] <dao> k
[02:01] <chromate> holycow: problem connecting to tracker
[02:01] <dao> wtf
[02:02] <dao> apt-get kinda blows compared to emerge
[02:02] <holycow> chromate, not sure torrent clients here work great, trackers die all the time
[02:02] <dao> doesnt even see eterm :/
[02:02] <Mez> how so dao ?
[02:02] <dao> apt-get install eterm
[02:02] <holycow> are we downloading maybe something we shouldn't be?
[02:02] <holycow> :)
[02:02] <dao> doesnt get eterm for me
[02:02] <holycow> first its sudo apt-get install eterm
[02:02] <twb_> how do i insttall new gpu drivers?
[02:02] <holycow> secon you need to search for the name
[02:02] <chromate> holycow: so are there other trackers with the ubuntu cds?
[02:02] <holycow> try apt-cache search eterm
[02:02] <bystander> dao: that isn't apt - that's your lack of repositories
[02:02] <dao> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:02] <dao> E: Couldn't find package eter
[02:02] <dao> ah
[02:02] <holycow> third eterm may not be in the main repositories
[02:03] <dao> i see.. how do i get more then?
[02:03] <Mez> again dao - eterm is in universe
[02:03] <holycow> go to /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the universe repositories
[02:03] <holycow> then sudo apt-get update
[02:03] <holycow> apt-cache search eterm
[02:03] <twb_> anyone know of some tutorials for Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Mez> dao  - edit /etc/apt/sources.list - it gives you instructions in there to edit certian lines to enable universe
[02:03] <holycow> sudo apt-get install etermpackagewhateveritscalled
[02:03] <Mez> twb_ http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:03] <FlannelKing> it's just eterm
[02:03] <twb_> ty
[02:03] <holycow> dao, in otherwords, learn to use the tool before complaining
[02:03] <dao> true
[02:04] <dao> still dumb that it doesnt have such a widely used program though
[02:04] <holycow> not dumb
[02:04] <holycow> there are reasons
[02:04] <dao> not even aterm
[02:04] <dao> :|
[02:04] <dao> lol
[02:04] <holycow> primarily there is a ctuoff point for support
[02:04] <FlannelKing> it does have it though, just not supported by Ubuntu
[02:04] <dao> i just gotta get used to it
[02:04] <bystander> dao: it does - you just didn't know how to find it
[02:04] <holycow> ubuntu officially supports 2k packages for which you can buy support
[02:04] <holycow> eterm just isn't on that list
[02:04] <dao> i could just go to sourceforge.net
[02:04] <jpie> Okay. When installing ubuntu im having a problem with "Unpacking scsi-extra-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-386" the file goes to 1%, then screen flickers, and it restarts recieving/unpacking the file. I tried on two other discs, and the same thing happened. It does this 15-20 times, then it sits at black screen with a blinking cursor in the bottom left hand corner of screen.
[02:04] <Mez> dao: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view for more details
[02:04] <holycow> or you can use gentoo
[02:04] <dao> but i dont wanna, thats why i'd use somethin like emerge
[02:04] <dao> k thanks
[02:05] <dao> :)
[02:05] <Mez> dao - if you want to use emerge - get gentoo
[02:05] <dao> ive been using it for a LONG time
[02:05] <bystander> dao: you just need to configure it is all
[02:05] <dao> heard good things about this
[02:05] <dao> roger... will do
[02:05] <dao> ;)
[02:05] <sara_poo> portage on ubuntu?
[02:05] <sara_poo> sounds spooky
[02:05] <dao> lol
[02:05] <holycow> dao, well then learn to use the tool, and learn to understand the why and when and how
[02:06] <Mez> yeah sara_poo someone requested a backport of it earlier
[02:06] <holycow> if you want gentoo use that, why expect gentoo type nonsense on ubuntu?
[02:06] <jpie> Anyone know?
[02:06] <sara_poo> it would be simplier to create your own .deb's i would guess
[02:06] <holycow> jpie, what kind of hardware do you have on your machine?
[02:06] <sara_poo> I just came from gentoo, i lost my patience for compiling from source for everything
[02:06] <sara_poo> and wanted to try something new
[02:06] <Wa77z> what do yall think of the qtella file sharing app
[02:06] <Mez> jpie - your best bet is to email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:06] <holycow> jpie, i've had one debian install fail for someone in the netherlands on some obscure scsi/mobo related issues
[02:06] <alberto_> my sound card still not working........ what does this message mean ?
[02:06] <biffurt> sorry to keep spamming, but can anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working
[02:07] <twb_> anyone know of a way to modify folders, i.e (windows) My computer>C:>Networx (instead of Program files)???
[02:07] <xxtreme> sara_poo= is gentoo really worth it
[02:07] <jpie> pentium sempron i think, 433mhz, 128mb ram, 12g harddrive, some other stuff..
[02:07] <biffurt> I thought it was oss, but it's asking me for a dsp. But there's no dsp in /dev/, I'm compltely lost.
[02:07] <holycow> bystander, me too, there are like 5 commands or so that you need to know
[02:07] <holycow> bystander, its like trivial to use
[02:07] <Mez> twb_ what? this is linux - not windows - the filesystems w3ork differently
[02:07] <sara_poo> xxtreme: I have no problems with gentoo, but I'm here.   I used debian a few years ago, and it seems ubuntu has fixed many of the reasons i switched from debian... so i'm back
[02:07] <dao> i was surprised how easy the installation was
[02:07] <vi4m> hello, my nxclient displays plain form with one button (on Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary) installed from backports ... is it known bug ?
[02:07] <dao> wow.. and fast
[02:07] <sara_poo> xxtreme: gentoo is good, but portage is not flawless.  You can get yourself into trouble with it.
[02:08] <sara_poo> xxtreme: and its slow
[02:08] <holycow> jpie, no scsi hardware?
[02:08] <sara_poo> xxtreme: compile kde-base from source Zzzzzzzzzzzz........
[02:08] <Mez> vi4m - what was hte package name ?
[02:08] <dao> dont know why fluxbox install wont work from source either :S
[02:08] <jpie> err, What would scsi hardware be? Sorry. Im oblivious to everything atm. Too many things going on at the house to think..
[02:08] <twb_> Mez: i know, maybe i lost ya on that one, i meant, could i set up /networx? cuz everytime i  dl something it goes to desktop and i hate things on my desktop
[02:08] <Mez> dao - It's really simple
[02:08] <Mez> I ahte haveing to do this but
[02:09] <absinthe_> I've decided to distro-hop for awhile. Any distro-reccomendations?
[02:09] <vi4m> Mez: freenx
[02:09] <xxtreme> sara_poo= I often think about gentoo, and should I try it, but I hear its hard, I love ubuntu, especiall kde 3.4, I came over from BDS, Redhat, Mandrake, and Yoper
[02:09] <holycow> jpie, scsi hard drive as opposed to ide hard drive, usually its faster, smaller, noisier and more reliable
[02:09] <Mez> dao: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:09] <holycow> or scsi cdrom
[02:09] <bystander> dao: and http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[02:09] <holycow> jpie, just curious, how did you get it to boot of cdrom?
[02:09] <LexiCon[gsr-dj] > holycow: there's been a bunch of Marvell Yukon drivers floating around
[02:09] <FlannelKing> Its got a smaller cable, instead of a big ribbon
[02:09] <jpie> My CD drive is on an ide cable, so is my harddrive. Is scsi like S/ATA?
[02:09] <Mez> twb_ have a look at edit-> preferences ->downloads in firefox
[02:09] <LexiCon[gsr-dj] > so I'm guessing this nic would use around the same drivers
[02:10] <Mez> it'll let you change wher eit downloads to there
[02:10] <sara_poo> xxtreme: it's worth a shot i guess.  I would think it's good for users who are patient and have a high attention to detail.  (slackware with package management)
[02:10] <holycow> LexiCon[gsr-dj] , its possible they aren't in debian :/ i don't know i've never heard of that before unfortunately
[02:10] <jpie> holycow: I flipped the ide cable around to have CDDrive on the end, and HDD in the middle.
[02:10] <holycow> jpie, heh, i've had similar situation
[02:10] <twb_> Mez: great thx
[02:11] <dao> ok
[02:11] <xxtreme> sara_poo, I had a lot of patience with BSD and Redhat, I'm very happy here, it just sits in the back of mind, thats all
[02:11] <absinthe_> Any distro reccomendations?
[02:11] <dao> will someone list ONE program that is up for apt-get install?
[02:11] <LexiCon[gsr-dj] > http://www.marvell.com/products/pcconn/yukon/index.jsp
[02:11] <jpie> it might just be problems with the crappy Compaq computer. they control everything.  No overclocking/voiding of warranties of any kind.
[02:11] <dao> cuz ... all the stuff i use isnt being found
[02:11] <holycow> dao, say what?
[02:11] <sara_poo> absinthe_: ubuntu
[02:11] <Mez> vi4m we havent had any bug reports about it yet... and it's in main backports - make a bug report topic here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=47
[02:11] <alberto_> how can i get kernel 2.6.10 from apt-get
[02:11] <sara_poo> dao: apt-get install vigor
[02:11] <holycow> dao, debian has 16 000 apps in repositores, as does ubuntu in universe
[02:11] <absinthe_> sara_poo, lol yeah I love Ubuntu but I want to experiment
[02:11] <xxtreme> sara_poo, im happy helping others with ubunta, and also learning more
[02:11] <dao> wtf is vigor lol
[02:11] <Mez> dao - try running synaptic, that will list them all for you
[02:11] <holycow> dao, i cannot believe you use such esoteric stuff that not even one would be found
[02:12] <dao> i enabled the universe thing.... :S
[02:12] <dao> still nada
[02:12] <bystander> dao: you've been told repeatedly how to fix your problem - if you don't want to, by all means use gentoo
[02:12] <holycow> then sudo apt-get update
[02:12] <xxtreme> sara_poo, thanks
[02:12] <holycow> you need to update the database
[02:12] <dao> mpg123.. fluxbox, eterm, aterm
[02:12] <sara_poo> absinthe_: check out #linuxhelp ?
[02:12] <dao> not esoteric
[02:12] <absinthe_> sara_poo, Ok thanks
[02:12] <holycow> then apt-cache search app <-- that searches the database, not apt repositories
[02:12] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone here know anyting about wine
[02:13] <twb_> Mez: another question, i just dl'ed new drivers for gpu, but when  open it it says "could not open file.."
 I didnt have problems with that before, but my apt stuff was messed up.
[02:15] <twb_> there a way to convert to diff. format?
[02:15] <holycow> jpie, if you select the desktop configuration yes
[02:15] <Mez> twb_ run files cause problems for me no matter what i do or what distro I use. I'd suggest trying a different format
[02:15] <SpecialBuddy> holycow, i just need to know why when I install something I can't seem to see the folder it was installed to
[02:15] <Wa77z> what is the .tar.gz file ext. is it like an .exe for windows..or like a .rar or what
[02:15] <jpie> okay. i'll try that. Ubuntu is just gonna have to wait till I get my cd's in :)
[02:16] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, what do you mean 'see folder'?
[02:16] <FlannelKing> wa77z its a gzip of a tar file, so it's like .zip
[02:16] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, most apps are spread accross the system, unlike windows
[02:16] <Wa77z> aight
[02:16] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, binary files are usually in /usr/bin
[02:16] <Wa77z> thank you
[02:16] <holycow> help files somewhere else, config stuff in /etc
[02:16] <holycow> and so on
[02:16] <sara_poo>  /clear
[02:16] <SogniX> anyone know how to get Window Maker to install on the current version of Ubuntu? I've not had any luck and I can't find help online - everything refers to an older version of Ubuntu.
[02:17] <SpecialBuddy> well I'm trying to install ares and I did install it and it works but I can't find any of my files
[02:17] <sara_poo> SogniX: i think you have to change your apt-get sources somehow, I'm working on that also
[02:17] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, what are you looking for exactly?
[02:17] <SogniX> I figured that, just not figured out to what :)
[02:18] <jpie> okay
[02:18] <SpecialBuddy> just mp3's or where they are being downloaded to
[02:18] <jpie> Ubuntu disc was just booting
[02:18] <jpie> but when i put debian disc in
[02:18] <FlannelKing> SogniX: WindowMaker is in universe
[02:18] <bystander> SogniX: uncomment universe lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, update, then install wmaker
[02:18] <jpie> It still is trying to boot GRUB...What is wrong with this thing? It got an error though
[02:19] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, you can do sudo updatedb
[02:19] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, that will update the locate db and then you can do locate filename
[02:19] <holycow> that will give you a really fast way to search for files
[02:19] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[02:19] <SogniX> I don't have universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:20] <holycow> yesh updatedb is a pain, someone is working on something called rlocate which caches files system info automatically, not sure if/when that will get into debian tho
[02:20] <bystander> SogniX: yes, you do if it's a default file - it even tells you how to uncomment them
[02:20] <SpecialBuddy> I just don't get it because I can see where ie and all of that stuff is located but ares isn't there
[02:20] <alberto_> Is there a different respocitory for apt-get, where i can get the kernel 2.6.10 using apt-get ?
[02:20] <bystander> SogniX: read the comments in the file
[02:20] <SogniX> it tells me to uncomment them - but they are missing... The file may have been overwritten.
[02:21] <Wa77z> ever since i upgraded my firefox in the updates section of ubuntu..i got an xml error
[02:21] <Wa77z> when i download something
[02:21] <FlannelKing> the kernal is in the base repo
[02:22] <holycow> SogniX, here is my sources.list file --> http://pastebin.ca/16216
[02:22] <bystander> SogniX: odd- in that case run `sudo apt-setup ` , then uncomment the lines (apt-setup will make a new file for you )
[02:22] <FlannelKing> alberto_: search for linux-image-2.6.10
[02:22] <Mez> alberto_,  ubuntu comes with 2.6.10 by default I think
[02:22] <SogniX> oh yeah - defenatly different than mine
[02:22] <holycow> oh what bystander said, that should work too
[02:23] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, not sure what you mean, which part don't you understand?
[02:23] <alberto_> nothing
[02:23] <alberto_> root@LapTors:~ # apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.10
[02:23] <alberto_> root@LapTors:~ #
[02:23] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[02:23] <SpecialBuddy> now stuff is showing up that wasn't there before
[02:23] <alberto_> i have 2.6.8
[02:23] <bystander> alberto_: apt-cache search linux-image
[02:23] <SpecialBuddy> so is that just refreshing the system
[02:23] <Mez> alberto_, it uses 2.6.10 as default
[02:24] <tony> HELP!!  I was using 1600x1200 resolution, after rebooting I only get 640x480...
[02:24] <bystander> alberto_: you are using warty then right?
[02:24] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, no, locate is an application, it doesn't search the system it searches its database
[02:24] <bystander> alberto_: cat /etc/issue to see
[02:24] <SpecialBuddy> no
[02:24] <SpecialBuddy> the other thing
[02:24] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, you need to do sudo updatedb to update the database
[02:24] <SogniX> is there anything I need to do to make the changes take effect - or will it work the next time I run apt-get?
[02:24] <SpecialBuddy> updateb
[02:24] <Bols> how can I install multiuniverse packages, plz?
[02:24] <alberto_> root@LapTors:~ # cat /etc/issue
[02:24] <alberto_> Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" \n \l
[02:25] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, way ahead of you :)
[02:25] <Mez> aha :D a warty user.
[02:25] <alberto_> :-/
[02:25] <Mez> I'd suggest upgrading to hoary if i were you alberto_
[02:25] <holycow> SogniX, you need to sudo apt-get update
[02:25] <tony> Can anyone help with my screen resolution prob?
[02:25] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[02:25] <holycow> SogniX, apt-get uses a database to store information about a repository
[02:25] <bystander> Bols: add the word "multiverse" to your universe lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:25] <norah> Anybody had troubling with acpi and Athlon XP-m ? I can modprobe the powernow-k7 og powernow-k8 module .
[02:25] <Mez> alberto - I'll PM you if thats ok and give help on how to upgrade?
[02:25] <alberto_> mez is there a howto on upgrading the distro ?
[02:25] <SpecialBuddy> thats good to know because now I can see the files and folders
[02:25] <alberto_> tMez thank you so much
[02:25] <SpecialBuddy> holycow, thanks
[02:25] <holycow> SogniX, in order for apt to know what to do you need to update the database when you add/modify repository information in sources.list
[02:26] <Bols> bystander, already tried that... but it doesn't seem to work :/
[02:26] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, no worries, just paying back what i recieved
[02:26] <bystander> Bols: did you run ` sudo apt-get update ` ?
[02:26] <tony> Can anyone see my post???
[02:26] <SpecialBuddy> well I was getting frustrated not knowing where it went
[02:26] <norah> My Athlon xp-m overheats and shuts down :'( can't modprobe powernow-k8
[02:27] <holycow> SpecialBuddy, sure, or how to find it, or why finding it is obscure, understood
[02:27] <Bols> bystander, yes.. I get this error : Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiuniverse Packages
[02:27] <bystander> Bols: spelling error
[02:27] <SpecialBuddy> yeah
[02:27] <bystander> Bols: multiverse
[02:27] <Bols> erm.. ok, thx
[02:27] <twb_> does anyone know how to set up Ventrilo on Ubuntu?
[02:28] <LinuxNewbie> hello can anyone help me out with ubuntu
[02:28] <LinuxNewbie> im new with linux
[02:28] <twb_> me 2
[02:28] <LinuxNewbie> so can anyone help us out?
[02:29] <twb_> dude, i dk
[02:29] <budluva> just ask already
[02:29] <holycow> twb_, chances are higher that some of that info could be googled quicker, than the chance of running into someone here that would know
[02:29] <bystander> LinuxNewbie: just ask a question - if someone can help they will
[02:29] <twb_> kk thx
[02:29] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, the rules are: be nice, be polite, just ask, don't be annoying
[02:29] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, so whats your question/s?
[02:29] <FlannelKing> LinuxNewbie, it might help you to look over the forums as well.
[02:29] <Wa77z> omfg god...if i reboot i have to unplug andplug back in my mouse to get it to keep workin
[02:30] <LinuxNewbie> ok here it is, i just installed ubuntu and then when it loaded it did not go to the x server
[02:30] <Wa77z> otherwise..it is not recognized
[02:30] <LinuxNewbie> ive tried startx
[02:30] <LinuxNewbie> but command not found
[02:30] <LinuxNewbie> i think it did not load some library
[02:30] <holycow> linuxboy, what kind of video card does your system have?
[02:30] <SogniX> thanks for your help! :)
[02:30] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, not linuxboy
[02:30] <holycow> heh
[02:30] <LinuxNewbie> its via
[02:30] <Mez> LinuxNewbie, did you tyry a custom or server install ?
[02:31] <Wa77z> this is gay....and my sound dont work all the time
[02:31] <norah> Hi :) anybody had troubles with ACPI and CPU-overheat with an AMD Athlon XP-m ?
[02:31] <Wa77z> its only some of the time
[02:31] <norah> Can't modprobe the powernow modules :S
[02:31] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, login as the user and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:31] <norah> it tells that device not found .
[02:31] <LinuxNewbie> ok wait ill try that
[02:31] <holycow> that should give you a chance to reconfig yoru server via at least a wizard type of interface
[02:31] <KhaBal> hi guys
[02:31] <holycow> we can try other things later
[02:31] <Wa77z> can someone help me figure out my mouse prblem
[02:32] <LinuxNewbie> ive try sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[02:32] <LinuxNewbie> it ask me a password
[02:32] <holycow> yes
[02:32] <Wa77z> it is not recognized when i reboot....i have to unplug it and plug it back in..then it works fine
[02:32] <holycow> type in the password you used to login with
[02:32] <athlon> how often do packages get updated ? The new Koffice 1.4 was released a week ago, KDE 3.4.1 about a month ago, but so far no packages.
[02:32] <LinuxNewbie> ok now
[02:32] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: ESD will do that.  They're fixing it in breezy, but for now try changing its config like in the restricted formats faq
[02:32] <Wa77z> hunh ?
[02:33] <Mez> athlon - the version gets frozxen when it's released
[02:33] <holycow> Wa77z, sounds like an issue with usb drivers ... not sure how to fix that.  have you tried a different usb mouse just to eliminate that possibility?
[02:33] <tiglionabbit> you said your sound didn't work all the time
[02:33] <LinuxNewbie> it said specify a packarge to reconfigure
[02:33] <Mez> if you want new packages, you either backport them or compile
[02:33] <Wa77z> ps2 mouse
[02:33] <bystander> athlon: hoary is a stable release - new packages will be in the next release (October)
[02:33] <Mez> however, kubuntu packages for 3.4.1 and koffice are availabekl
[02:33] <KhaBal> im download JSDK package java, >>>>3:30:50 <<<its going to take << sigh
[02:33] <holycow> ps2 mouse? oh you got me there, sorry not sure where to go from there
[02:33] <Mez> have a look at the news on http://www.kubunut.org
[02:33] <Wa77z> it workd great once i unplug and plug it back in
[02:33] <Mez> have a look at the news on http://www.kubuntu.org/ *
[02:33] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, scroll up and read my post
[02:33] <holycow> i gave you the whole command
[02:33] <LinuxNewbie> ok
[02:33] <KhaBal> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[02:33] <LinuxNewbie> wait
[02:34] <holycow> KhaBal, one has kde other gnome de
[02:34] <athlon> hmm, so, is there any way for me to upgrade  them ? not wanting to get afflicted by versionitis or anything, but I consider .1 release to be quite important cos they usually fix imporant bugs and smoothe the rough edges
[02:34] <Wa77z> and also..my sound only works when i play a song..its not consistant
[02:34] <Wa77z> for system sounds its brokeen
[02:34] <KhaBal> holycow: gnome=much better
[02:34] <FlannelKing> You can switch between the two of them, without reinstalling, there are instructions at Kubuntu (how to convert from U to K)
[02:34] <holycow> KhaBal, i like both, but use gnome
[02:35] <LinuxNewbie> ok it said xserver-xorg is not installed
[02:35] <holycow> FlannelKing, ah neat, yeah that should be easily doable
[02:35] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: we know that.  ESD kind of sucks
[02:35] <flugh> aah, my ubuntu box is purring along smoothly after a first-time 'real' install. i hope you all have a similar happy experience :)
[02:35] <Wa77z> im not sure what ESD is
[02:35] <holycow> linuxboy, thats your problem first, you don't have the right components installed
[02:35] <Wa77z> i am new to linux..
[02:35] <twb_> is Real Plyer neccessary with Ubuntu?
[02:35] <LinuxNewbie> ah?
[02:35] <Wa77z> im sure u can tell by that comment
[02:36] <LinuxNewbie> but i just followed the instructions in the installation
[02:36] <bystander> twb_: depends what you want to play I guess
[02:36] <holycow> anyone here know what the components for xserver are called in ubuntu? i know the debian names ...
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: Enlightenment Sound Daemon.  It will handle system sounds, but many applications wont play well with it, so you configure it to suspend ESD while running those applications.  But you can only run one of such applications with sound rights at a time
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> holycow: xorg
[02:36] <abbot45> where can i get a .mp4 codec for totem/mplayer?  i dont think its part of w32.
[02:36] <twb_> well, im havng trouble installing it, .exe wont open
[02:36] <LinuxNewbie> im using a AMD sempron
[02:36] <Wa77z> ic..how can it be fixed
[02:36] <LinuxNewbie> is that a problem?
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: did you configure ESD like it says in restricted formats?
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[02:36] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:37] <Wa77z> i dont know how
[02:37] <bystander> holycow: xserver-xorg ( or a more complete package is x-window-system-core)
[02:37] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, well first install sudo apt-getinstall xserver-xorg
[02:37] <Wa77z> i would like too
[02:37] <holycow> thats the first pieces your missing
[02:37] <holycow> or right ... do sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core
[02:37] <LinuxNewbie> ok ill just type that and insert the CD right?
[02:37] <holycow> thats the one :) thanks bystander !
[02:37] <tony> Hello
[02:37] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, heh actually before you do that
[02:38] <holycow> does your ubuntu box have high speed access?
[02:38] <Wa77z> or i can just turn off those apps sounds right
[02:38] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, do ping www.google.com
[02:38] <holycow> tell us if you get a response on your ubuntu box
[02:38] <LinuxNewbie> what is a ubuntu box?
[02:38] <tony> Can anyony see me?
[02:38] <bystander> holycow: a beeter way might be ` sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop `
[02:38] <flugh> tony: no
[02:38] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, the one you are installing right now
[02:38] <bystander> *better
[02:38] <holycow> bystander, oh is that the package he should install instead?
[02:38] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: make /etc/esound/esd.conf look like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-5bb92da29c02203193ac2fa6d2cfb90064959bec
[02:38] <abbot45> mp4 codec?  is there one for xine?
[02:39] <holycow> ah neat, okay, i've never had to fix ubuntu before :)
[02:39] <LinuxNewbie> ttl 241
[02:39] <bystander> holycow: that contains all the deps  ( metapackage)
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> LinuxNewbie: a box is a computer
[02:39] <tony> Help I was using 1600X1200, after rebooting I only get 640X480...
[02:39] <cafuego> LinuxNewbie: Like a bento box, but with crunchy cdrom sushi.
[02:39] <LinuxNewbie> time281
[02:39] <Wa77z> let me look realquick
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> cafuego: rofl
[02:39] <holycow> bystander, yeah i'm used to just installing the basics in debian, cool
[02:39] <LinuxNewbie> how do i stop the ping
[02:39] <WMCoolmon> ctrl-c
[02:39] <holycow> linuxboy, okay now do this
[02:39] <holycow> apt-setup
[02:39] <WMCoolmon> LinuxNewbie: ctrl-c
[02:40] <holycow> then select an HTTP repository
[02:40] <tony> Can any one help me?
[02:40] <LinuxNewbie> ok apt-setup
[02:40] <holycow> then we will just upgrade the whole system simultaneously and add anything thats missing by hand if need be
[02:40] <tiglionabbit> tony: what did you change?
[02:40] <Wa77z> ok..how do i find and edit that file
[02:40] <LinuxNewbie> then it ask for the Cd
[02:40] <LinuxNewbie> insert it
[02:40] <holycow> LinuxNewbie, go add an http repository
[02:40] <Mez> LinuxNewbie, it might be better if you just reinstall from scratch...
[02:40] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: that is the exact path.  Go to the root directory and work up from there
[02:41] <tony> I upgraded to the latest kernel
[02:41] <FlannelKing> I agree, if youve got a fresh install, just reinstall
[02:41] <Mez> and dont do an server /epxert install
[02:41] <JasonMcGuirk> Any l33t hax0rz here that can help me with configuring my wireless card for my laptop in ubuntu64?
[02:41] <JasonMcGuirk> it was working for awhile
[02:41] <holycow> Mez, he's mostly there, he just screwed up the the repository part on the install
[02:41] <LinuxNewbie> ok ive selected http
[02:41] <JasonMcGuirk> and then it up and quit on me
[02:41] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: or you could open a terminal and type the name of an editing program and then that absolute filename path
[02:41] <LinuxNewbie> it prompt me to select a country
[02:41] <holycow> yep
[02:41] <LinuxNewbie> should i select my country?
[02:41] <holycow> sure
[02:42] <Mez> holycow - not neccessariuly... you dont really know withougt looking...
[02:42] <LinuxNewbie> permission denied
[02:42] <Mez> he might have screwedup completely... it's better to have an automated install rahter than a manual
[02:42] <Mez> LinuxNewbie, reinstall from the CD... it's easier
[02:42] <holycow> Mez, and we also don't know if there is something else is going on, so far we've eliminated a few possibilities, and this is more sensible than starting over
[02:42] <holycow> BECAUSE we don't exactly know why the cd install failed
[02:43] <FlannelKing> And he wont lose anything, and it'll be eaiser
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> LinuxNewbie: if you'd like, I can post my sources.list and you can use it
[02:43] <Mez> however, we also know that a abse ssyetm without sudo = nothingyou can do
[02:43] <holycow> permission denied? heh, do what mez said, reisntall from cd
[02:43] <holycow> :)
[02:43] <JasonMcGuirk> Any l33t hax0rz here that can help me with configuring my wireless card for my laptop in ubuntu64?
[02:43] <LinuxNewbie> now im trying to install from the CD
[02:43] <Mez> finalyl you agree with me holycow
[02:43] <LinuxNewbie> pls help me out here
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> JasonMcGuirk: wish I could, but it detected mine automatically, so..
[02:43] <holycow> Mez, sure, but if you could of dist upgraded, why not try?
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> JasonMcGuirk: best bet is to check the wiki
[02:43] <LinuxNewbie> now im the opening screen
[02:43] <LinuxNewbie> it ask me to enter SERVER
[02:43] <FlannelKing> LinuxNewbie, I assume you talking on another machine
[02:43] <bystander> LinuxNewbie: don't
[02:43] <Mez> because a dist-upgrade would have only upgraded the base packages, whcih dont include any gui :D
[02:44] <LinuxNewbie> huh?
[02:44] <redir> JasonMcGuirk, deactivate it and reactivte it
[02:44] <LinuxNewbie> i dont enter server?
[02:44] <Mez> LinuxNewbie, when it says about entering "server2 just hit enter
[02:44] <Mez> dont type anything
[02:44] <JasonMcGuirk> redir: Have tried
[02:44] <Mez> thats where you went wrong before
[02:44] <LinuxNewbie> ok
[02:44] <sara_poo> x windows is more fun in ubuntu
[02:44] <Mez> LinuxNewbie, don't type server - just hit enter
[02:44] <_0kills> anyone know how to set GNOME up to kill ESD at startup?
[02:44] <tiglionabbit> sara_poo: heeeey, irssi is awesome.  You just need to learn to use it
[02:44] <LinuxNewbie> ok
[02:44] <twb_> why wont it let me play an audio CD?!!??!
[02:45] <JasonMcGuirk> I can see my routers, it just won't seem to connect
[02:45] <LinuxNewbie> ive enter the country
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> sara_poo: http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[02:45] <LinuxNewbie> english etc
[02:45] <Mez> _0kills, apt-get remove --purge esd
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> what's LinuxNewbie trying to do here?
[02:45] <Wa77z> ok ...what can i use to edit it..Configuration Editor ?
[02:45] <taomaster> any easy way 2 install java?
[02:45] <holycow> tiglionabbit, just reinstall, let mez walk him through it
[02:45] <_0kills> Mez, and that will remove esd entirely?
[02:45] <holycow> too many people talking to him will confuse him
[02:45] <sara_poo> tiglionabbit, it's a bit awkward for me, but I have friends who swear by it.  Something as simple as a chat program I don't think i should have to _learn_ how to use
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> taomaster: there's a link to it in restricted
[02:45] <JasonMcGuirk> Anyone here that can help me fix my wireless drivers in ubuntu 64?
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[02:45] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:45] <Mez> _0kills, yes
[02:45] <LinuxNewbie> now im in the HOST NAME
[02:46] <sara_poo> tiglionabbit, a programmers editor for example, i think is worth learning
[02:46] <LinuxNewbie> ive enter a host name CICST2
[02:46] <Mez> hmm
[02:46] <_0kills> Mez, thanks, is that safe to do?
[02:46] <Mez> who controls ubotu
[02:46] <tiglionabbit> LinuxNewbie: perhaps you should read an install guide rather than asking us every single thing
[02:46] <Mez> if you dont want to use esd then yteah
[02:46] <sara_poo> Mez, i do.
[02:46] <LinuxNewbie> ok
[02:46] <_0kills> k
[02:46] <sara_poo> Mez, my hostname is  ubotu
[02:46] <Mez> sara_poo, restricted != RestrictedFormatds
[02:46] <sara_poo> Mez, if i could only find that damn root pw....
[02:46] <Mez> sara_poo, restricted != RestrictedFormats
[02:47] <bystander> Mez: it's just a keyword, chill
[02:47] <tiglionabbit> sara_poo: actually, irssi is a very useful and beautiful program, which I use as much, or more, than my editors
[02:47] <Wa77z> tiglionabbit : i understand what i have to do..im just not sure what exactly the command is i am suppose to type in
[02:47] <sara_poo> Mez, ?
[02:47] <bystander> Mez: and sara_poo is kidding
[02:47] <Mez> yeah but it's giving out wrong information
[02:47] <_0kills> Mez, got an error,  E: Couldn't find package esd
[02:47] <sara_poo> i missed that
[02:47] <Wa77z> some thing /etc/blah blah blah
[02:47] <sara_poo> well, sorry, didn't realize ... something
[02:47] <sara_poo> i guess
[02:47] <bystander> Mez: no, it isn't - it's just a shorthand for the wiki URL for restricted formats
[02:48] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: try saying "sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf" at the terminal
[02:48] <Wa77z> nvm
[02:48] <Wa77z> i found it
[02:48] <tiglionabbit> make sure you edit it with super user privileges (sudo)
[02:48] <Mez> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:48] <Wa77z> i am just scared to touch anything..i dont reeally know what all these buttons do
[02:48] <Mez> leaves confusing about tre restriceted repository
[02:48] <twb_> this system wont run anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:48] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: buttons?
[02:49] <sara_poo> Wa77z, don't touch the red button, that one breaks the internet
[02:49] <twb_> why cant i install Raven Shield???
[02:49] <twb_> PLEAS HELP!!
[02:49] <Wa77z> ya i know
[02:49] <tiglionabbit> raven shield, what's that?
[02:49] <sara_poo> twb_, whats raven sheild?
[02:49] <LinuxNewbie> ok can i ask something, in the x server environment
[02:49] <Mez> Raven Shield = a game
[02:49] <puddleboy> its a rainbow 6 game
[02:49] <twb_> its a game, Rainbow Six 3
[02:49] <tiglionabbit> twb_: do you have cedega?
[02:49] <LinuxNewbie> can i create users there?
[02:49] <Wa77z> just like..i dont know how to navigate and use all the apps as well as i can in windows...mostly just where to find files
[02:49] <Mez> LinuxNewbie, applets are provided for you to mamage users, yes
[02:50] <tiglionabbit> twb_: that looks like a windows game.  If you want to run windows programs on ubuntu you'll need to use wine, crossover office, or cedega
[02:50] <LinuxNewbie> like in the windows server?
[02:50] <twb_> no i don thave cedega
[02:50] <tiglionabbit> twb_: then buy it
[02:50] <twb_> i have to buy that stuff?
[02:50] <tiglionabbit> yeah..  sadly
[02:50] <sara_poo> i'm a cedega subscriber, I rarely use it anymore though.  some of the native linux games are great now
[02:50] <twb_> thats bs
[02:50] <CarlFK> you don't have to buy wine
[02:50] <bystander> twb_: in case you didn't notice, GNU/Linux is a different Operating System *grin*
[02:50] <sara_poo> twb_, go install enemy territory, it's free, and the best shooter i've played
[02:51] <sara_poo> (free as in beer)
[02:51] <tiglionabbit> twb_: well you either buy cedega, use wine for free, play native linux games, or dual boot with windows for your game fix
[02:51] <CarlFK> my ubuntu box doesnt make toast... that's bs too.
[02:51] <_0kills> sara_poo, where do you get enemy territory from?
[02:51] <ukato> fileplanet, right
[02:51] <twb_> well, its not just the game, im having trouble with virtually everything
[02:51] <Wa77z> WTF.. i opened the file in a text editor..and i cant change anything
[02:51] <sara_poo> _0kills, (afraid of being a gentoo noob...)  emerge enemy-territory-etpro  , but i'm sure we can google for it
[02:51] <bystander> OMG MY LINUX WON"T RUN WINDOWS APPS !!   You shouldn't be able to automatically install windows programs on it
[02:52] <Mez> _0kills, Enemy-Territory.com
[02:52] <twb_> well, i understand that
[02:52] <tiglionabbit> that's like trying to run windows programs on a mac
[02:52] <tiglionabbit> or visa versa
[02:52] <_0kills> sara_poo, Mez, thanks
[02:52] <sara_poo> http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/
[02:52] <twb_> but can someone plz get me ut of the darlk?
[02:52] <ukato> or linux programs on windows.
[02:52] <Wa77z> do i need to be root to edit my /etc/esound/esd/conf file
[02:52] <sara_poo> would something like et be in apt-cache search ?
[02:53] <pedingto> Evenin' Folks.
[02:53] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: yes.  At a terminal, please say `sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf` without those `s
[02:53] <WMCoolmon> hmm, i think my kubuntu install is stuck at "Testing security update repository..."
[02:53] <twb_> like......why cant i play my Modest Mouse cd?
[02:53] <twb_> ggross!
[02:53] <tiglionabbit> twb_: yes.  Just put it in, gnome should handle that
[02:53] <twb_> its not
[02:53] <ukato> twb_, what CD
[02:53] <tiglionabbit> twb_: doesn't it plop a CD icon on your desktop?
[02:53] <sara_poo> where is the RTFM pages on apt?  I need to learn how to find stuff, and edit my sources
[02:54] <bystander> twb_: I bet you don't have a cable from your sound card to your CD player - try playing it in xmms with digital output enabled
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[02:54] <twb_> omg....now it wont eject my cd?
[02:55] <^thehatsrule^> thank god
[02:55] <twb_> wtf is goin on here
[02:55] <unreal> heh
[02:55] <LinuxNewbie> if my server is UBUNTU and my client are XP
[02:55] <sara_poo> lmao
[02:55] <LinuxNewbie> there wont be a problem?
[02:55] <sara_poo> first time i've seen that
[02:55] <nemik> stupid script kiddies
[02:55] <sara_poo> another debian user trying to kill us i bet
[02:55] <tiglionabbit> twb_: right-click on the cd icon on your desktop, and pick eject
[02:55] <kertrats> I seem to have missed something
[02:55] <ukato> hmmm, has anyone used Stratagus before?
[02:55] <twb_> i did, 'unable to eject" it says
[02:55] <unreal> I pick the best moments to return... right when a script kiddie frog is flooding the channel
[02:55] <sara_poo> where is the RTFM pages on apt?  I need to learn how to find stuff, and edit my sources
[02:55] <tiglionabbit> LinuxNewbie: all OSs can play nicely with eachother over a network or the internet
[02:55] <kertrats> first thing in the door is 'thank god'
[02:56] <tiglionabbit> twb_: perhaps a program is trying to handle it?  Does it say anything else, like "is in use" ?
[02:56] <twb_> no
[02:56] <bystander> sara_poo: more than you'll ever need to know about apt >> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[02:56] <sara_poo> bystander, thanks
[02:56] <kertrats> ok, I'm brand new to linux, and I'm finding it difficult to install anything
[02:56] <Wa77z> omfg
[02:56] <tiglionabbit> twb_: what is the device name of your optical drive?
[02:57] <Wa77z> can you paste that link again
[02:57] <twb_> eh?
[02:57] <twb_> device name of optical?
[02:57] <kertrats> for instance, I just downloaded firefox 1.0.4 off the moz.org site, and when I open the installer, it just gives me a bunch of xpi files
[02:57] <Wa77z> i cant believe i closed out without saving my bookmark
[02:57] <kertrats> which ones do I use?
[02:57] <bystander> twb_: in a terminal, type   sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject   then try ejecting again
[02:57] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z: what page?
[02:57] <kertrats> er, I guess that's just in the one folder
[02:57] <Wa77z> the one where it shows me what part to edit
[02:57] <kertrats> but still, it's lost on me
[02:58] <Wa77z> the only one u have pasted for me
[02:58] <tiglionabbit> kertrats: use synaptic
[02:58] <Wa77z> /etc/esound/esd.conf
[02:58] <Wa77z> i need to edit that to make it look like default=options or somethin
[02:58] <sara_poo> ok, before i get cozy and start reading for the night, is there anyway to tweak gnome into having sloppy focus, and shading?  It seems wierd by default....
[02:58] <tiglionabbit> Wa77z:
[02:58] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[02:58] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:59] <twb_> "too few arguments"....???
[02:59] <Wa77z> aight
[02:59] <bystander> twb_: did you do what I suggested ?
[02:59] <ukato> anyone used Stratagus before?
[02:59] <mae> Dude, I _love_ tomboy
[02:59] <tiglionabbit> sara_poo: system->preferences->windows
[02:59] <twb_> yees
[03:00] <twb_> i just want to be able to install programs.....why is it so hard?
[03:00] <sara_poo> tiglionabbit, thanks
[03:00] <tiglionabbit> twb_: to install programs, use Synaptic
[03:00] <tiglionabbit> twb_: and forget about your windows CDs
[03:00] <pedingto> twb_ its not hard, if you learn apt-get or even use the Synaptic Package Manager.
[03:00] <bystander> twb_: because you are new and have stuff to learn
[03:00] <twb_> whats that and where can i get it?
[03:00] <tiglionabbit> twb_: run it.   I'm trying to install ubuntu on a disk while keeping the existing partitions.. seems like the installer doesn't detects any partitions, so the only choice is to rewrite the whole partition table =/ should it be so? =)
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> system->admin->synaptic
[03:01] <Wa77z> alsa **
[03:01] <pedingto> Synaptic is in System --> Administration --> Synaptic.
[03:01] <twb_> im expecting everything to run as easily as windows : /
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> twb_: it does.  You just do things differently
[03:01] <sproingie> you'll find apt runs a lot easier than windows
[03:01] <sproingie> no more looking for most apps
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> sproingie speaks the truth
[03:01] <bystander> twb_: no, you are expecting the same metaphors to apply - and they don't
[03:02] <sproingie> no more grabbing dependencies.  they install automagically
[03:02] <bystander> twb_: once you start to get it, it becomes easier
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> well that's a comparison with red hat, sproing
[03:02] <pedingto> Oh yeah, once you learn the basics of apt-get google searches to find programs mostly disapeer ;)
[03:02] <sproingie> and removal that doesn't take a control panel a minute to start up, only removing one thing at a time
[03:02] <sproingie> tiglionabbit: eh?  yum grabs deps automatically
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> sproingie: that's fedora
[03:03] <mae> yum is awful compared to apt
[03:03] <sproingie> apt can't handle multiple architectures at once, unfortunately
[03:03] <sproingie> yum can
[03:03] <twb_> ok, im at synaptic...whats all this?
[03:04] <tiglionabbit> twb_: this is a program that searches online software servers called "repositories" which have a bunch of programs you can install.  Hit search, or browse the categories.  Many of them you may never have heard of though
[03:05] <tiglionabbit> twb_: you may profit from reading the restricted formats wiki if you want to do many of the things you did in windows.  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:05] <cianci> hi, can someone help me?
[03:05] <tiglionabbit> cianci: with what?
[03:05] <SymGeosis> cianci, with what?
[03:06] <twb_> ok, so how do i know what drivers are installed rigght now, id like to have my SB ZS and Nvidia drivers back
[03:06] <twb_> hey still there?
[03:06] <twb_> they
[03:06] <Bols> What's the command to reload the system default locales, plz?
[03:06] <bystander> twb_: I suggest you go and read this: http://www.aboutdebian.com/linux.htm Realise that you are now part of a community and you need to do some reading and legwork to get up to speed. Also make use of google with site:ubuntulinux.org keywords
[03:06] <puddleboy> egrsz
[03:06] <misfit_toy> ubuntu is awesome, but I have found the help here lacking as far as advanced issues, is there another forum for ubuntu?
[03:06] <tiglionabbit> twb_: I believe there are nvidia drivers in synaptic, if you add the repositories detailed in the restricted formats faq
[03:06] <cianci> i am trying to move files to a folder where it says i don't have permission to write to it
[03:07] <cianci> how can i move files to that folder
[03:07] <osiris> Hello there does anybody run a samsung 172v lcd monitor with ubuntu, as im having problems configuring mine, i have a ghosted image on the cursor and text when in 1280x1024 but not in 1024x768, the monitor definatly supports 1280x1024 @60 and 70hz and i have used the vert and horiz values that i found in the manual and its still the same any help would be brilliant.
[03:07] <Cervantes_> sara_poo: I've tried lots of things to get that USB key working, but now when I try to mount it I get the "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist" message.  Any ideas?  :)
[03:07] <puddleboy> misfit_toy, if you are having 'advanced issues' then you should have no problem doing a google search to solve them.
[03:07] <tiglionabbit> misfit_toy: http://ubuntuforums.org ?
[03:07] <SymGeosis> cianci, sudo and then cp.
[03:08] <goldfish> Cervantes_: what does 'fdisk -l' say ....
[03:08] <cianci> is there a way where i can move many files at once, SymGeosis?
[03:08] <ryann> hello  i just installed ubuntu and my resolution is mest up
[03:08] <goldfish> !resolution
[03:08] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:08] <tiglionabbit> cianci: yes.  mv a directory, or many files in a row
[03:08] <ryann> i tryed editing the xorg but still i cant chage it
[03:08] <goldfish> ryann: follow that link
[03:08] <SymGeosis> cianci, go the the folder that you would like to move. sudo cp -R *
[03:08] <ryann> goldfish, thanks
[03:08] <goldfish> np
[03:08] <Cervantes_> goldfish: lots of things:  shall I private it to you?
[03:08] <goldfish> Cervantes_: yeah
[03:08] <tiglionabbit> well, dinner time.  I'll be back
[03:08] <cianci> SymGeosis, what is the command for that?
[03:09] <SymGeosis> cianci, cd [dir]
[03:09] <SymGeosis> sudo cp -R *
[03:10] <cianci> but where do i specify the directory location?
[03:10] <misfit_toy> puddleboy, tiglionabbit I have googled for 10 hours now and solved a wireless nic issue that was not listed anywhere in google or ubuntuforums, I am just tired, forgive me, I will post the resolution later tonite.
[03:10] <SymGeosis> ah, sorry. sudo cp -R * [dir]
[03:10] <twb_> ok.....ill try this approach, where is a goo dplace to start....?
[03:11] <cianci> exit
[03:11] <SymGeosis> Bah, I was just about to direct him to the man files for cp, mv, chmod and chown...
[03:11] <puddleboy> misfit_toy I hope you used ndiswrapper
[03:11] <osiris> Hello there does anybody run a samsung 172v lcd monitor with ubuntu, as im having problems configuring mine, i have a ghosted image on the cursor and text when in 1280x1024 but not in 1024x768, the monitor definatly supports 1280x1024 @60 and 70hz and i have used the vert and horiz values that i found in the manual and its still the same any help would be brilliant.
[03:12] <sara_poo> i have a new install, and something is wrong with my apt.  I'm trying to read through the apt- how-to and they say to 'apt-get install netselect', but I can't even find that.
[03:12] <sara_poo> seems no packages are available,
[06:03] (MDM3455/#ubuntu) can you have normal Wine and Cedega installed together?
[06:04] (SpecialBuddy/#ubuntu) I just want to make an icon without the white on the edges
[06:04] (crimsun/#ubuntu) MDM3455: sure.
[06:04] (Burgundavia/#ubuntu) ray_, they basically say whether or not a license is free or not
[06:04] <ray_> anyone know of a good online 3d shooter
[06:04] <tomchuk> for i in `ls *.jpg`; do mogrify -transparent #ffffff $i; done
[06:04] <punkrockguy318> ray_, cube
[06:05] <punkrockguy318> will breezy be debian compatible?
[06:05] <Razor-X> ray-: Cube
[06:05] <tomchuk> SpecialBuddy: something like the above should work
[06:05] <Razor-X> *ray_
[06:05] <talios> hola - anyone here compiled up mod_caucho for apache2 on ubuntu?  I'm getting "can't find apache lib" - I have apache2 installed, along with the dev pacakges
[06:05] <Razor-X> talios: make sure you have the apache dev libs
[06:06] <SpecialBuddy> I'm not really sure if that magic wand is working
[06:06] <talios> Razor-X, I noticed after i removed apache-dev apxs dissapeared, but had assumed the apache2 dev packaes might bring back an apache2 version
[06:06] <crimsun> talios: fancy seeing you here.
[06:07] <cafuego> !find apxs2
[06:07] <adwait> hey ppl........i am going to a friends place to install ubuntu on XP machine......anything i need to know? (havent used XP much)
[06:07] <Razor-X> talios: nope, you need the apache-dev
[06:07] <tomchuk> SpecialBuddy: do you have all the white selected?
[06:07] <talios> hey crimsun :)
[06:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'apxs2' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/apxs2) in devel/apache2-prefork-dev,devel/apache2-threaded-dev.
[06:07] <Razor-X> adwait: a lot
[06:07] <cafuego> apache2-prefork-dev
[06:07] <adwait> razor-x: like? any urls?
[06:07] <cafuego> there you go
[06:07] <Razor-X> NTFS is the bitch of all bitches
[06:07] <Razor-X> are you resizing XP, or wiping it?
[06:07] <Razor-X> or installing on a seperate drive? ;)
[06:07] <adwait> installing on a diff partition (or maybe a separate drive)
[06:08] <SpecialBuddy> yeah but it's not showing the checkboard under it
[06:08] <Razor-X> the latter is best, because resizing XP is a total bitch
[06:08] <talios> cafuego, already have apache2-prefork-dev installed, but no apxs ;(
[06:08] <tomchuk> SpecialBuddy: go to layer -> add alpha channel
[06:08] <adwait> naah he recently formatted, so he has left free space for linux
[06:08] <cafuego> talios: /usr/bin/apxs2
[06:08] <Razor-X> adwait: oh, that's cool ;)
[06:08] <tomchuk> SpecialBuddy: then ctrl-K to delete the selection
[06:09] <talios> ahh apxs2 :)
[06:09] <Razor-X> as long as he left free space unpartitioned, it's fine, but I had a hellish time getting my XP to cooperate
[06:09] <SpecialBuddy> add alpha channel?
[06:09] <maven> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:09] <ray_> anybody use an stivirus program?
[06:09] <tomchuk> SpecialBuddy: yup
[06:09] <adwait> razor-x: last time he tried installing, he got FC3 to install, but just couldnt bring grub up...and when he did, it just crashed...so he couldnt boot into linux
[06:09] <maven> error happen
[06:09] <ray_> antivirus sorry
[06:09] <kakalto> has anyone here got bf1942 working on cvscedega?
[06:09] <SpecialBuddy> I don't see it
[06:09] <Razor-X> adwait: does he have a special drive setup?
[06:09] <Razor-X> or do you know the magic of all that?
[06:09] <Razor-X> ;)
[06:09] <adwait> razor-x: whr should i install grub? MBR or first sector?
[06:09] <maven> postfix & at and so on happens error
[06:09] <tomchuk> SpecialBuddy: sorry it's layer -> transparecy -> add alpha channel
[06:09] <Razor-X> do it on the MBR, adwait
[06:09] <maven> can someone help me
[06:09] <ray_> anybody use an antivirus program?
[06:10] <Razor-X> make sure to do it there
[06:10] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[06:10] <maven> nobody use antivirus program
[06:10] <adwait> razor-x: an 80 GB HD with XP and a slave hard disk....dunno which one i am going to install on....
[06:10] <Razor-X> and then, make note of the partition XP inhabits, and the partition Ubuntu habits
[06:10] <Razor-X> do it on the slave
[06:10] <Razor-X> and, just in case
[06:10] <bystander> ray_: unless you have a server feeding mail to windows boxes etc
[06:10] <Razor-X> take SystemRescueCD with you
[06:10] <ray_> bystander, oh yeah ....thanks alot
[06:10] <Razor-X> you can never go wrong with that thing, it's helped me brign back dead harddrives from the grave ;)

[06:11] <lamont> maven: what's above the suporcess error?
[06:11] <Razor-X> *bring
[06:11] <adwait> razor-x: havent burnt tht........byt ooh well, he probably has the XP cd
[06:11] <nalioth_zZzZzZz> Razor-X: systemrescuecd?