[10:48] <variant> Skaag: be carefull modifying the path variable, it can be a big security risk if done improperly
[10:48] <bruenig> rmd_, I wrote a script called metadiff that will allow that, you can find it here. second post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411823
[10:48] <DShepherd> jrib: right you are
[10:48] <Skaag> variant: I just want, for admins, another directory with binaries available in the path...
[10:48] <variant> piNNoy: desktop effects it is, not gl desktop sorry
[10:49] <ward_> I'm having a very hard time finding someone who has tried to install veejay on feisty, anyone tried that by any chance?
[10:49] <jrib> r4nge: you can use /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources in gconf-editor
[10:49] <erisco> how do you get .rar archive support for linux??
[10:49] <drummer> I am currently unable to print with my HP LJ 4050.  During install the printer was seen and appeared to install correctly, and is connected to LPT parport0 HPLIP.  If I try to print a test page, the system says it's printing, but nothing comes out.  When I cat the last entry in the error_log under /var/log/cups it reads  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[10:49] <drummer> .  HELP!!!!
[10:49] <ouroboros> LjL:  Yes, it installed!  woohoo!  thank you so much!
[10:49] <|ericsson|> nuxil: did you have any luck with permissions on /tmp ?
[10:49] <aro> !info unrar-free
[10:49] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:49] <LjL> erisco: by installing the "rar" and "unrar" packages from Multiverse.
[10:49] <piNNoy> vari: i have it enabled and both boxes are checkd but how do i move to view the cube on desktop?
[10:49] <variant> piNNoy: ctrl + alt + left mouse button
[10:49] <isidoro> hi
[10:49] <aro> erisco, unrar-free allows you to extract .rar files
[10:49] <LjL> ouroboros: wouldn't have been possible if someone hadn't spotted my obvious mistake - but you're welcome ;)
[10:49] <chump> can someone help me correct the message i get when i log into gdm . when i enter my user/pass i got a message taht say : user $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevent the default session and language from being saved... and something else .. does someone know about this ?
[10:49] <isidoro> how can I remove a non empty directory?
[10:50] <aro> rm -rf
[10:50] <bruenig> isidoro, rm -rf dir
[10:50] <isidoro> by shell
[10:50] <LjL> isidoro: rm -r directory/*
[10:50] <kristopher> with force
[10:50] <variant> isidoro: rm -rf /dir
[10:50] <DShepherd> piNNoy: you might need to install gnome-compiz-manager... it makes life alot easier with editing some of the options..
[10:50] <bruenig> rm -r directory/* does not remove the directory
[10:50] <jrib> Skaag: why don't you use /usr/local/sbin/ for that instead of create a new place in the PATH?  default PATH is set in /etc/environment if you still want to change it though...
[10:50] <LjL> bruenig: ironically.
[10:50] <nuxil> |ericsson|, nop.. but im trying to reinstall everything with mysql ""AGAIN""..
[10:50] <Pieter_> hi there! does anyone know a good vpn-client for ubuntu feisty?
[10:50] <|ericsson|> nuxil: *sigh*
[10:50] <isidoro> :-D
[10:50] <Skaag> jrib: thanks that's what I need
[10:50] <isidoro> thank you
[10:50] <ward_> I'm having a very hard time finding someone who has tried to install veejay on feisty, anyone tried that by any chance?
[10:51] <drummer> I am currently unable to print with my HP LJ 4050.  During install the printer was seen and appeared to install correctly, and is connected to LPT parport0 HPLIP.  If I try to print a test page, the system says it's printing, but nothing comes out.  When I cat the last entry in the error_log under /var/log/cups it reads  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[10:51] <drummer> .  HELP!!!!
[10:51] <piNNoy> crap my little start menu thing went away but i still see my sda1 on desktop -- how do i get it back??
[10:51] <DShepherd> ward_: have you checked the ubuntu forums? someone may have some veejay feisty experience there..
[10:51] <LjL> isidoro: be careful with that command (especially the -f version), lots of people including me have deleted important things by mistake just due to a typo
[10:51] <vic2> !firefox
[10:51] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:51] <jrib> piNNoy: do you still have panels?
[10:51] <piNNoy> nope
[10:51] <piNNoy> jrib: nope
[10:51] <vic2> guys, how do you migrate your firefox to ubuntu???
[10:52] <jrib> piNNoy: what did you do right before that happened?
[10:52] <chump> thank but i self answered myself ;)
[10:52] <ward_> DShepherd, i will right now ty, have you got a link of topicname?
[10:52] <DShepherd> ward_: nope...
[10:52] <ward_> DShepherd, ty = thank you :-)
[10:52] <Pieter_> vic2, you can export your bookmarks
[10:52] <piNNoy> jrib: cant remember, but i tried logging on and off and it idnt work, im gonna try to reboot
[10:52] <DShepherd> ward_: yw = your welcome
[10:52] <bigjohnto> anyone in here set up chroot?
[10:52] <bruenig> vic2, copy over the mozilla folder if you want to keep your settings, make sure you don't have any windows only plugins installed though
[10:52] <bruenig> er, extensions
[10:52] <bruenig> !chroot | bigjohnto
[10:52] <ubotu> bigjohnto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:52] <kbrooks> ping
[10:52] <absum> i have a usb connected device with with a driver from the company behind it, i have set it up so that whenever i connect the device to my computer it pops up in /dev/input but when i run the driver it gets removed and i have to manually unplug/plugin the device to get it back in /dev/input, could anyone help me?
[10:52] <ward_> DShepherd, jsut wanted to be sure you knew what i meant, i only see ty being used in online games :-)
[10:52] <Wamphyri> LjL: how about a list of repostitorys? i know how to debian rather well i just don't know any links for Ubuntu
[10:53] <bigjohnto> when I execute /usr/local/libexec/sftp-server from a chroot env it gives me No user iwth UID 5004 found
[10:53] <bigjohnto> whats the problem?
[10:53] <LjL> !easysource > Wamphyri    (Wamphyri, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:53] <vic2> bruenig, can you explain in more detail ?
[10:53] <DShepherd> ward_: hehe.. its very common here too.. no harm done
[10:53] <DX00> hey guys, my dvd is able to play movies fine but it gives me an error when i try to load a data dvd
[10:53] <ExIG> thoreauptic: hmmm other people can listen to my music over DAAP but i cant listen to theirs...
[10:53] <kristopher> when using rm, does -f totally discount the -i option
[10:53] <bruenig> vic2, in windows, go get your mozilla folder from appdata or whatever it is called, then copy it over to your linux partition and put it in /home/username/.mozilla
[10:53] <DX00> can anyone tell me why that would happen
[10:54] <thoreauputic> ExIG: then presumably they aren't sharing theirs ;)
[10:54] <vic2> bruenig, o OK, thx
[10:54] <bruenig> kristopher, I would assume so
[10:54] <marshall> i installed sonata a while ago and im not able to do anything in it. ive pointed it to my music library but it still doesnt show anything in the library tab
[10:54] <Alonea> I am trying to look at an .rtf file without any success. OpenOffice gives an error and KWord opens it, but its blank.
[10:54] <LjL> Wamphyri: the structure is as follow (i assume Feisty): repositories are "feisty", the main one, "feisty-updates", updates for serious bugs, "feisty-security", security fixes, and "feisty-backports", packages ported back from Ubuntu+1 (currently non-existent).  then each repository has four components: "main", free stuff by the core devs, "restricted", non-free by core devs, "universe", free by community, "multiverse", non-free by community
[10:54] <thoreauputic> ExIG: BTW to type nicks use thore<tab>
[10:54] <thoreauputic> ExIG: for example
[10:55] <LjL> Wamphyri: "rar" and "unrar" are non-free, and as such in Multiverse ("unrar-free" is available in Universe, but can't deal with files made with recent versions of WinRAR)
[10:55] <kristopher> bruenig: thats kinda weird.
[10:55] <ward_> DShepherd, u were right, but its 2 versions back
[10:55] <leme> Algum Br por ai?
[10:55] <LjL> !br | leme
[10:55] <ubotu> leme: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:55] <bruenig> kristopher, force means not interactive so not really
[10:55] <ward_> DShepherd, but that will ge good enough for now i think :-)
[10:55] <barata> GREAT NEWS .... Dell-Buntu is just there now
[10:55] <DShepherd> ward_: kool
[10:55] <LjL> !offtopic
[10:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:55] <barata> I wonder if I can find drivers for my Texas instruments & modem from Dell
[10:56] <kristopher> bruenig: i've just heard of plenty of people symlinking rm to rm -i for safety measures.. Actually think that mandrake does it by default
[10:56] <bruenig> barata, low end computers with linux......linspire comes to mind
[10:56] <Kazol> does the default linux archiver have .rar support?
[10:56] <delta___> Hey there! I am looking for some way to stop a process that uses too much (virtual) memory. "ulimit -v" does a pretty good job, but catches "good" processes off-guard, thereby killing them. Is there a user-space program that can stop the process and ask for confirmation first?
[10:56] <dunstabulos> hiya i'm trying to set up an anonymous smb share and am using the shared folders program under admin tools but it doesn't seem to have any options for who can connect to the share? can anyone advise the easiest way to set up an anonymous/any user accepted read only smb share?
[10:56] <bruenig> kristopher, retards I guess
[10:56] <barata> I dont like linspire
[10:56] <LjL> Kazol: yes, but it only gets it after rar/unrar (or unrar-nonfree) are installed
[10:56] <LjL> i mean unrar-free
[10:56] <bruenig> kristopher, I don't want to type y for ever thing I delete personally
[10:56] <Wamphyri> LjL: last question :) i have the nvidia componants installed Desktop Effects turned on, but the cube isn't working and the option is checked and it was working last night
[10:56] <kristopher> bruenig: Its just a safety measure thats nice.
[10:56] <Kazol> LjL: so I should apt-get unrar-free?
[10:57] <Guitrokr> i have gotten my wireless networks to show up in the network manager, but i can't connect to them, it just tries for a long time, i have a broadcom wireless card and i followed tutorials to get this far but now im stuck
[10:57] <kristopher> bruenig: I'm actually surprised that ubuntu doesn't do it while using sudo
[10:57] <ward_> DShepherd, i was wrong, that is freej, another prog by dyne... :-(
[10:57] <DShepherd> kristopher: 'i' seems to have the preference over 'f'//
[10:57] <_Steve_> anyone here use heartbeat on ubuntu?
[10:57] <LjL> Wamphyri: i don't know much about desktop effects (i'm not even on GNOME), sorry
[10:57] <DShepherd> ward_: hehe.. sorry to here that..
[10:57] <bruenig> kristopher, they could I guess
[10:57] <thoreauputic> !bcm43xx | Guitrokr
[10:57] <ubotu> Guitrokr: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[10:57] <bruenig> kristopher, alias sudo rm='sudo rm -i'
[10:57] <kristopher> DShepherd: -f is cancelling it out on my machine, i'm not sure why!
[10:57] <LjL> Kazol: depends. if the RAR files you need to open were made with recent versions of WinRAR, you will need "unrar", not just "unrar-free"
[10:57] <kamal> Hi everybody!!
[10:57] <Guitrokr> no no you don't understand i've gone through every help website
[10:57] <Guitrokr> i've been redirected
[10:57] <Wamphyri> LjL: ok,was just odd it was working till i changed my wal papers then all hell broke loose and it doesn't work anymore lol
[10:57] <year0369> German ubuntu chat ?
[10:57] <kristopher> bruenig: Yah, i know how to do it.  I dont know why i said symlink, but i'm just surprised that ubuntu doesn't do it by default
[10:57] <Guitrokr> im looking for someone who might know something about this
[10:58] <LjL> !de | year0369
[10:58] <ubotu> year0369: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:58] <Guitrokr> not for another person to redirect me to another website
[10:58] <gregorovius> hi... I can't suspend or hibernate on Feisty... anyone savyy willing to help?
[10:58] <kamal> i need help about boot loader
[10:58] <stefg> !grub | kamal
[10:58] <ubotu> kamal: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: are you sure your card is supported? Are you using ndiswrapper or bcm43xx?
[10:58] <DShepherd> kristopher: oh.. kool!!. well not that kool.. not sure why though.. why would you want to use them both anyways?
[10:58] <kamal> thanks so much
[10:59] <DShepherd> ward_: you may wanna try asking in #ubuntu-studio.. there might be a little more helpful..
[10:59] <Guitrokr> bcm43xx
[10:59] <ExIG> thoreauputic: nah just tried a guy who i know is sharing, he is on windows, but that shouldnt matter right?
[10:59] <|ericsson|> tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / <--- would that be enough of a complete system.backup for (k)buntu?
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: do you know about the cafuego firmware debs?
[10:59] <LjL> yikes
[10:59] <walkintome> hi all. i have two questions. 1-how do i move the 'close, min, max' buttons a few pixels over (they are right on the edge) and 2-how do I improve font smoothing under feisty?
[10:59] <|ericsson|> huh..
[10:59] <Guitrokr> i've already intalled all the fireware
[11:00] <Rossimo> i'm having trouble with my thumbdrive. if i boot my computer while one thumbdrive is inserted, two thumbdrives appear on the desktop. once i umount one, the other stays on the desktop, and it will not go away. any way i can fix this?
[11:00] <bruenig> |ericsson|, yeah
[11:00] <delta___> dunstabulos: In /etc/samba/smb.conf, set global option security=share, then set "guest ok = yes" for the share you want to make available anonymously
[11:00] <|ericsson|> bruenig: cheers mate..
[11:00] <oneil> hi -- I understand that if I sudo su -- I become root, but how can I get back revert back?
[11:00] <LjL> oneil: "exit"
[11:00] <kadakas> exit
[11:00] <piNNoy> ok my cube is not working and i have it enabled im holding down crtl alt and pressing left mouse button and nothing is happening, whats wrong?
[11:00] <LjL> oneil: besides, use "sudo -i" rather than "sudo su"
[11:00] <Bacon|ubuntu> Meh this is depressing
[11:00] <stefg> oneil: ctrl-D
[11:00] <|ericsson|> oneil: once you close terminal, exit or wait 16 minutes ;)
[11:00] <bruenig> |ericsson|, it will create a giant file though, so if you are intending to copy that to a disc, make sure you split it up
[11:00] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: have you checked the bcm43xx home page for your chipset compatibility?
[11:01] <drummer> I am having problems getting an HP 4050 to actually print anything under feisty.  I works fine under Dapper etc.  Please help.  SOMEBODY, please!!!
[11:01] <delta___> dunstabulos: Ah, and set "writeable = no" if you don't want everybody deleting the shared files :)
[11:01] <oneil> ah, got it -- thanks, everyone
[11:01] <Guitrokr> well im not sure what card i have, all windows tells me is its a broadcom card and ubuntu tells me i have a dell wireless mini-pci card, even tho this is an HP
[11:02] <stefg> !wifi Guitrokr
[11:02] <chump> can someone help me i got this bug https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4258 but the solution doesn't fix my problem
[11:02] <|ericsson|> bruenig: yeah, no probs
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi guitrokr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <walkintome> i hope everyone's doing well!  i just have two simple questions. 1-how do i move the 'close, min, max' buttons a few pixels over (they are right on the edge) and 2-how do I improve font smoothing under feisty?
[11:02] <DX00> can someone help me with this error 'Invalid mount option while trying to mount the volume'
[11:02] <vic2> guys, does any1 know how to get macromedia stuff on linux somehow???
[11:02] <piNNoy>  ok my cube is not working and i have it enabled im holding down crtl alt and pressing left mouse button and nothing is happening, whats wrong?
[11:02] <DX00> i get it when i mount a dvd
[11:02] <stefg> !wifi | Guitrokr
[11:02] <jrib> vic2: you mean flash player or osmehting else?
[11:02] <ubotu> Guitrokr: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:02] <bruenig> walkintome, you would need a different theme
[11:02] <drummer> I am having problems getting an HP 4050 to actually print anything under feisty.  I works fine under Dapper etc.  Please help.  SOMEBODY, please!!!
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: lspci will tell you - then check http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=deviceson
[11:02] <TSWoodV> Greetings!  How can I make Samba's swat behave more Ubuntu-friendly, namely, how can I log into swat with admin rights without setting a root password?  Is this even possible?
[11:02] <chump> DX00 : what is your mount command
[11:02] <vic2> jrib, i mean like dreamweaver, flash 8, etc
[11:02] <bruenig> walkintome, for the first question that is
[11:02] <chump> ?
[11:02] <DShepherd> piNNoy: have you tried installing gnome-compiz-manager..?
[11:03] <DX00> i get it as soon as i put a dvd into the drive
[11:03] <piNNoy> no where do i get that and how do i install it?
[11:03] <walkintome> bruenig: theres no way to move it over? i love the theme i have no..the buttons are just not in the right spot
[11:03] <walkintome> now*
[11:03] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: sorry bad paste : try http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[11:03] <bruenig> vic2, shockwave I assume you are asking can only be accessed through wine, so install firefox.exe through wine and then get macromedia on that
[11:03] <DX00> i don't manually mount it
[11:03] <DX00> but i only get with data cds
[11:03] <jrib> vic2: adobe doesn't provide native linux versions of those applications, you'd need to try to get them to work in wine or something similar I suppose
[11:03] <DX00> if i put a movie, it will read it fine
[11:03] <bruenig> vic2, for dreamweaver you might consider wineing that if you can if not, get nvu or some other editor
[11:04] <r4nge> how would i remove the graphic effects when i minimize a window in ubuntu gnome?
[11:04] <Riyonuk> I cannot seem to install Ubuntu. I checked the CD for defects and found none. When its installing the Choose and Install software, it hangs at 6%
[11:04] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: give it time, hanging at 6% is natural
[11:04] <icecube_> hi guys
[11:04] <Guitrokr> thoreauputic| says im supported
[11:04] <chump> DX00 can you go see the cdrom line in the fstab file ?
[11:04] <jrib> r4nge: you can use /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources in gconf-editor
[11:05] <Riyonuk> Rossimo, I did, gave it a whole day and it said Install could not be completed
[11:05] <dunstabulos> delta___: thanks, i'll make a note of that but i solved the problem by navigating using the ip address and connecting with a username for the minute
[11:05] <Guitrokr> and like i said i ccan see my wireless networks and it tells me i have 100% strength on some
[11:05] <Guitrokr> and they aren't password protected
[11:05] <Riyonuk> I listen to my CD Drive, and it makes like a chainsaw starting up, and turning off
[11:05] <r4nge> jrib: k, i'll take a look
[11:05] <DX00> let me see
[11:05] <icecube_> i'm installing superkaramba but have a problem.. i having this error..checking for KDE... configure: error:
[11:05] <icecube_> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[11:05] <icecube_> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[11:05] <chump> dx00 : /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0    /// must be something like that
[11:05] <drummer> Do any of you know ANYTHING about printers and Feisty?  I cannot get my HP 4050 to print.
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: OK, try   sudo modprobe bcm43xx , the do   sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart  and see if it works then
[11:05] <Guitrokr> ok
[11:06] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: livecd or text?
[11:06] <georgy> icecube_ : you need the dev package
[11:06] <stefg> !printing | drummer
[11:06] <ubotu> drummer: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:06] <icecube_> but i already installed that georgy?
[11:06] <chump> can someone help me i got this bug https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4258 but the solution doesn't fix my problem
[11:06] <Riyonuk> Rossimo, umm, its the 6.10 alt cd
[11:06] <georgy> icecube : the kde dev package
[11:06] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: you haven't set up anything in Networking, right? nm-applet needs to control the wireless ( doesn't like static configuration)
[11:06] <DX00> i would look under /etc/fstab right?
[11:06] <drummer> stefg: I am currently unable to print with my HP LJ 4050.  During install the printer was seen and appeared to install correctly, and is connected to LPT parport0 HPLIP.  If I try to print a test page, the system says it's printing, but nothing comes out.  When I cat the last entry in the error_log under /var/log/cups it reads  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[11:06] <drummer> .  HELP!!!!
[11:06] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: hmm, my first guess would be a hardware issue, try the fiesty alt
[11:06] <erstazi> how does one get a mass load of Ubuntu cd's?
[11:07] <icecube_> yes, georgy i did it
[11:07] <thoreauputic> erstazi:  shipit.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <stefg> drummer: time for a bug report
[11:07] <erstazi> thoreauputic, I thought you need to be part of a LoCo team though
[11:07] <Riyonuk> Rossimo, I dont want to, I installed 7.10 alt, and my wireless card wasnt supported, althout its supported in earlier versions :/
[11:07] <thoreauputic> erstazi: depends how many you need I guess
[11:07] <georgy> icecube_, : the kde-headers ?
[11:07] <chump> DX00 yeah you can go in console and do :cat /etc/fstab
[11:07] <vak> hi all
[11:08] <guachos> hi
[11:08] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: so you've installed 6.10 before?
[11:08] <Riyonuk> Rossimo, Yes I have :D
[11:08] <drummer> stefg:  wow that's useful!  Thanks.
[11:08] <vak> how to downgrade php5.2.1 to the last 5.1.x?
[11:08] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: same CD?
[11:08] <icecube_> yes i think so.. i installed it via synaptic
[11:08] <thoreauputic> erstazi: or contact your loco about it ( another possibility)
[11:08] <peter77> I've installed VMplayer, how do I create a virtual machine?
[11:08] <icecube_> what do you suggest georgy
[11:08] <Riyonuk> Rossimo, no its not, some blank cd's a friend gave me
[11:08] <Riyonuk> there clean
[11:09] <georgy> icecube_, : one second, i search
[11:09] <erstazi> thoreauputic, I might have to do that. 3 cd limit unless I order multiple times but that would cost more shipping so I won't do that
[11:09] <icecube_> ok georgy
[11:09] <thoreauputic> peter77: http://www.easyvmx.com/
[11:09] <hype_> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/dell-to-offer-ubuntu
[11:09] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: try burning at the lower speed setting
[11:09] <hype_> awesome :)
[11:09] <SmileyChris> noob question: how can I use apt-get to update bazaar to the latest version (I'm using dapper)?
[11:09] <peter77> thanx
[11:09] <Riyonuk> Rossimo, I did, 4x
[11:09] <catid> hello.. i have a major problem with the fan support in linux.  the fastest fan mode is never used, so my graphics card overheats and passively throttles itself down to avoid death
[11:09] <rmd_> whoever gave me that metadiff script: i love you
[11:09] <pike_> peter77: there are websites that will help you create the file. player cant just point to an iso and boot though like server or workstation
[11:10] <Guitrokr> thoreauputic| I tried what you said it still doesn't connect it just shows the icon for attempting a connection
[11:10] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: livecd give you the same problem?
[11:10] <stefg> drummer: i'm not responsible for the lazy quality control of ubuntu... this seems to be a permission  prob
[11:10] <delf0s> anyone know how to add a modprobe command at startup... so i dont have to keep typing he command in at terminal?
[11:11] <Riyonuk> livecd never works, and it takes forever to start
[11:11] <sven> Who I am?
[11:11] <georgy> icecube_, : try kdebase-dev
[11:11] <Riyonuk> I have a worthless pc :p
[11:11] <bruenig> delf0s, you can put it in /etc/rc.local
[11:11] <peter77> hmm, I expected VMware to also creat VM's like parallels for mac
[11:11] <catid> i have not found a way to set the fan speed myself.  i've read through acpi docs and played with lm-sensors.  there is not a /proc or /sys interface for the fan speed
[11:11] <naknomik_> Is there a way to browse the list of packages available for 6.06 LTS on the web?
[11:11] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: even with the noapci option?
[11:11] <erUSUL> delf0s: add the name of the module to /etc/modules and it will be modprobed at startup
[11:11] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: running out of ideas , sorry - mine worked fine after installing cafuego's deb for the firmware
[11:11] <|ericsson|> catid: wouldn't you have BIOS settings to maximize usage of fan voltage control?
[11:11] <bruenig> naknomik_, packages.ubuntu.com perhaps
[11:11] <Guitrokr> damn
[11:11] <catid> using apm instead of acpi doesn't help
[11:11] <Riyonuk> Rossimo, wha? Theres options? how?
[11:11] <icecube_> georgy, i give it a shot..
[11:11] <Wiiman> S
[11:12] <chump> DX00 you got it ?
[11:12] <catid> |ericsson|: i'll check that next
[11:12] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: make sure that your /etc/network/interfaces file has *only* the loopback (lo) stanza
[11:12] <kamal> can some one tell me how can i find drivers for my webcam, for ubuntuu? am using hp pavillon webcam
[11:12] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: yes, when you boot the cd, i think pressing the F2 key brings them up, not entirely sure
[11:12] <catid> |ericsson|: thing is it worked under windows fine so i assume it's not a BIOS problem
[11:12] <naknomik_> Now, what is the code name for 6.06? Edgy?
[11:13] <Riyonuk> Which version should I get? Im going to download a new one.
[11:13] <Rossimo> dapper
[11:13] <drummer> stefg: I pretty much had that part figured out.  Something is not listed properly under the groups lpadmin and/or cups, but i do not know how to fix it.  Reporting it as a bug means another 1-3 days with the same problem and no solution.  I need one soon or I have to go to another distro that works.
[11:13] <cyzie> hello, due to network pretty slow, is it workable if i download 7.04 CD and upgrade my existing 6.10 using the cd?
[11:13] <Dave_is_sexy> using dpkg i'd like to install an ap which wants an older version of python. i wanna say "ignore, the new version is fine". can i? i'm sure it'll work
[11:13] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: nm wants to control the connection, so all configuration in the /etc/network/interfaces file should be removed or commented out except the loopback interface
[11:13] <|ericsson|> catid: probably not, worth checking though..
[11:13] <Riyonuk> Rossimo, what version is that?
[11:13] <stefg> drummer: going back to edgy (or maybe etch?) would be my proposititon
[11:14] <Riyonuk> I like 6.10 as I know it has the wireless working
[11:14] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: any version, i believe
[11:14] <|ericsson|> cyzie: Yes, or you can order CD's from http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <ward_> can someone take a look at this please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18673/ i tried to install veejay on feisty, this is the last lines of the output
[11:15] <stefg> drummer: and unless you don't report the bug, you won't get it fixed
[11:15] <sven> Is this the right channel to ask installation or live CD trouble (feisty final)?
[11:15] <Riyonuk> Well why doesnt the newest version work?
[11:15] <ferran> how can change name of my computer with ubuntu 7.04?
[11:15] <SmileyChris> So how do I update bzr to latest version - it seems to think the latest is 0.8 when it's like 1.5
[11:15] <cyzie> |ericsson|, that will take time. but have u done upgrade your distro from 6.10 to 7.04 ?
[11:15] <georgy> ward_, : install mpegjtools
[11:15] <|ericsson|> ferran: I assume you mean hostname?
[11:15] <eztk> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6610901.stm       <dell to use Ubuntu.. Woo Hoo
[11:15] <cables> sven, yep
[11:15] <ward_> georgy: mjpegtools are installed
[11:16] <|ericsson|> cyzie: yes, I've done that, works fine
[11:16] <drummer> stefg: yeah I'm afraid that's what i'll have to do, but damn I like some of Feisty's features.
[11:16] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: your wireless, or the boot options?
[11:16] <stefg> drummer: so time for a bug report :-)
[11:16] <Guitrokr> thoreauputic| i've done that
[11:16] <Riyonuk> Wireless, like in System > Networking, the wireless option isnt even there
[11:16] <Guitrokr> it was one of many steps in a previous runthrough i followed
[11:16] <sven> Ah, as I'm reading the entries.... I'm not the only one, xserver fails even with live CD.... But feisty BETA works great! Mmmh...
[11:17] <cyzie> thanks |ericsson|
[11:17] <|ericsson|> cyzie: no problem @ all
[11:17] <naknomik_> What would be a good choice of web server for serving simple static pages, and nothing fancy.
[11:17] <|ericsson|> sven: feisty stable would be better than the best ;)
[11:17] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: try booting the 6.10 livecd with the nopaci option first, and see if that will install, not sure what the feisty issue is
[11:18] <pike_> naknomik_: apache2? seriously stay with apache if its simple all the better itll be a gentle intro
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: you didn't use ndiswrapper before? I believe you have to diable that for the bcm43xx to work
[11:18] <thoreauputic> *disable
[11:18] <cables> My HD makes a distinctive noise when you hard shutdown the machine. It doesn't make that noise when you shut it down properly. Since the Feisty upgrade, my HD has been making that noise whenever I shutdown... it seems like it's not stopping the HD before powering off the machine.
[11:19] <sven> ericsson: Sorry, but that's the trouble.... the final crashes the xserver. The BETA worked OK! I checked the CD as usual,... mmmh,
[11:19] <Guitrokr> no i dont even have ndiswrapper
[11:19] <Kube> Hello, I downloaded RealPlayer 10 from real.com and installed it on my Ubuntu 6.06, video files are playing but with no sound... what can I do to enable the sound in RealPlayer 10...
[11:19] <ward_> can someone take a look at this please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18673/ i tried to install veejay on feisty, this is the last lines of the output
[11:19] <icecube_> georgy... now i'm having this error : Superkaramba can't be compiled
[11:19] <icecube_> because of missing Python libraries/headers.
[11:20] <stefg> !realplayer | Kube
[11:20] <ubotu> Kube: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: what does  sudo iwlist scan   report for your card ?
[11:20] <Riyonuk> Rossimo, but do you get what Im talking about? How its supposed to have the icon up there? It has Modem and Ethernet, but no wireless :(
[11:20] <jenda> could someone give me a hint what command to use to resize an NTFS partition to 100 GiB when gparted doesn't want to?
[11:20] <Kube> stefg i installed all RestrictedFormats
[11:20] <stefg> Kube: there's an ubuntu-package for that. rather us it
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: see if it is actually getting anything...
[11:20] <stefg> *use
[11:20] <georgy> icecube_, : same think, you need the python-dev package
[11:20] <chump> how does my home dir change permission without me doing it ?
[11:21] <ward_> georgy: mjpegtools are installed
[11:21] <Kube> stefg: does Helix Player play .rm video files ?
[11:21] <clusterm1gnet> guys, what the hald daemon for?  i know its for hardware abstraction, but what does that entail?
[11:21] <Rossimo> Riyonuk: it may  be that particular kernel, i'm not sure, but if you know edgy works, then install it while trying the boot options
[11:21] <stefg> Kube: no
[11:21] <Guitrokr>  it reports me lots of network connections and their bit rates and whether they are password protected
[11:21] <clusterm1gnet> is it for hotplugging usb devices for example?
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: sounds right then
[11:21] <stefg> !commercial
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <Riyonuk> Ok, so press F2 and type nopci?
[11:22] <Guitrokr> yeah
[11:22] <walkintome> hi all! i hope someone can help me figure out why any font I choose in firefox looks like this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/halfwayglad/Screenshot-Confirmclose.png
[11:22] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: can you get an IP with  sudo dhclient <your-interface> ?
[11:22] <stefg> Kube: canonicl has a 'commercial' repository where you can apt-get realplayer
[11:22] <mjr> clusterm1gnet, for example; it can report what type of devices they are to apps, direct them to them. Also media insertions and removals and such.
[11:22] <clusterm1gnet> mjr: so its a good thing to load at boot, eh?
[11:22] <Guitrokr> what is my interface going to be thoreauputic?
[11:22] <mjr> clusterm1gnet, yes
[11:22] <clusterm1gnet> mjr: for some reason my laptop halts when starting hal daemon, halts for about 2 minutes
[11:22] <clusterm1gnet> then continues on
[11:22] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: usually eth1 with broadcom cards
[11:22] <Kube> stefg: okay, let me check.
[11:22] <sven> Does anybody know how to contact the ubuntu guys to help them to solve an installation problem? I'm really sure that it is one.
[11:22] <clusterm1gnet> mjr: thanks!
[11:22] <Rossimo> Riyonku: noacpi, sry
[11:22] <Guitrokr> oh its wlan0 for me
[11:22] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: check with   ifconfig -a
[11:22] <Guitrokr> lets see
[11:23] <pike_> !bug | sven
[11:23] <ubotu> sven: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:23] <pike_> sven: but check here and in forums also
[11:23] <Guitrokr> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 3
[11:23] <Guitrokr> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[11:23] <Guitrokr> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[11:24] <Guitrokr> and more stuff before that but i dont' wanna clutter chat
[11:24] <Guitrokr> more things like DHCPDISCOVER blah blah
[11:24] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin | Guitrokr
[11:24] <ubotu> Guitrokr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:24] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: is this a router/wap ?
[11:24] <sven> Hey, thanks! Be sure, I will try out several things (google, forum and some praying) before I will waste their time ;-)))
[11:24] <Guitrokr> i don't follow thoreauputic
[11:24] <Kube> stefg: how can I uninstall the version that I already have on my laptop ?
[11:24] <Guitrokr> im a semi-newb
[11:25] <Rossimo> g2g, guys
[11:25] <Kube> stefg: I can't see it in Add/Remove
[11:25] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: is your wireless access point known to work?
[11:25] <Wamphyri> Anyone familiur with WorkSpace on a Cube?
[11:25] <Curley_Sue> can u HELP out here: running fluxbox on Feisty (ubuntu). tried 'rox --pinboard=Default &' and now my conky disappears!
[11:25] <Guitrokr> yes i usally can get access to wireless with 100% signal in my dorm
[11:25] <icecube_> georgy, it works, thanks a lot
[11:25] <georgy> icecube_, : np
[11:25] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: no encryption, right?
[11:25] <Guitrokr> nope
[11:25] <Dreamglider> how long should it take to create two ext3 partions on a harddisk ?
[11:26] <Dreamglider> (with gparted)
[11:26] <georgy> icecube_, : have fun too
[11:26] <neft> whats the command to register a nick?
[11:26] <pike_> Dreamglider: cfdisk or fdisk then mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda2 or whatever
[11:26] <pike_> Dreamglider: if you have to resize you need to boot livecd and run gparted
[11:26] <stefg> Kube: see the documentation ... i think it's callng the installer with --uninstall, or something similar
[11:27] <Fredle> but don't trust resize too mutch..
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: sorry, I can't think of anything else to try - but it sounds like the card is actually working, so it must be a configuration issue
[11:27] <neft> can anyone tell me the command to register a nick?
[11:27] <stefg> !register
[11:27] <Dreamglider> it's a usb harddisk i  need to make a FAT32 partion but it wont let me so im trying to make a ext3 instead
[11:27] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:27] <neft> ok tx
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: does iwlait tell you that the signal is OK ?
[11:27] <deadeyez> hi all, when I do sudo apt-get update then all I get always "Forbidden"
[11:27] <thoreauputic> *iwlist
[11:27] <deadeyez> Anyone who knows how to solve this?
[11:28] <Fredle> Dreamglider, beacause vfat don't support big partities
[11:28] <Guitrokr> yeah one last thing thoreauputic is that when i do iwconfig i get access-point:invalid as one of the lines
[11:28] <Dreamglider> Fredle, i made the partion 50Gb !
[11:28] <Dreamglider> is that to big ?
[11:28] <Fredle> nope, won't do
[11:28] <neft> !register
[11:28] <Fredle> way to big
[11:28] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:28] <Guitrokr> and yes it says three of my signals coming in are over 85% on of them is 100%
[11:28] <z9999> I've run into a problem trying to install the latest ver of alsa, anyone here able to provide some assistance?
[11:28] <Dreamglider> what's the maximum =
[11:28] <chrisjw> how do i make a .deb
[11:29] <Fredle> don't remember, but it realy isn't a -great number
[11:29] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: hmm - iwlist wlan0 scan should say something about the access point IIRC
[11:29] <eternaljoy> accordiong to this website I need to recompile my kernel to get my TV USB to work.  Can someone tell me exactly how I do that? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/95277
[11:29] <fangorious> I tried to install the latest 1.0.9x legacy nvidia driver on feisty, and it's complaining about the kernel api/interface being 1.0.7x, how can I fix that
[11:29] <fangorious> ?
[11:30] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: I'm surprised that you are seeing wlan0 - my broadcom card shows as eth1 here
[11:30] <Fredle> Dreamglider, it's 4GB
[11:30] <Guitrokr> i changed it
[11:30] <Guitrokr> to wlan0 manually
[11:31] <Guitrokr> part of one of the runthroughs
[11:31] <Guitrokr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18684/
[11:31] <Guitrokr> i don't know if that helps thoreauputic
[11:31] <Dreamglider> Fredle,  what about ntfs
[11:31] <stefg> !kernel | eternaljoy
[11:31] <ubotu> eternaljoy: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:31] <Dreamglider> can i backup my laptop hd to a ntfs drive with ubuntu ?
[11:31] <ryanakca> I can play sound, but I can't record. I have a 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc3
[11:32] <Guitrokr> wlan0     No scan results
[11:32] <LjL> deadeyez: "forbidden"? isn't the actual message a bit more verbose?
[11:32] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: well, I tried :) I think you should be able to get it working from the info you have given so far
[11:32] <Aw0L> how can I create multiple directories in a path at once?  like 'mkdir /var/newdir1/newdir2/etc...'?
[11:32] <chili555> Guitrokr run as sudo?
[11:32] <apecat> i've tried to install xfonts-terminus, but it doesn't show up on any fonts lists, even after restarting x (in fact rebooting)
[11:32] <Fredle> Dreamglider, ntfs will do the job.. but it isn't realy great to get  ntfs and to mount it on linux
[11:32] <Guitrokr>  Quality=92/100  Signal level=-58 dBm  Noise level=-64 dBm
[11:32] <Guitrokr>                     Extra: Last beacon: 328ms ago
[11:33] <ryanakca> I can play sound, but I can't record. I have a "00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)" and so need 'alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc3' according to http://kac.duf.hu/~balage/doksik/asus-a6m-q074.html . On feisty, the version I have is: 1.0.13-3ubuntu1 . Any idea where I can find the newer version?
[11:33] <Guitrokr> i got that forthe scan for my best signal
[11:33] <Fredle> btw...  I don't remember how I did it, but I've got my usbdisk of 180gb formatted as vfat
[11:33] <Dreamglider> what do you recomend ?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: so it is there and working apparently
[11:33] <Fredle> that was with macosx
[11:33] <Guitrokr> yes
[11:33] <Guitrokr> haha which is why im so baffled
[11:33] <ankit> aWoL: mkdir -p /var/temp/whatever
[11:33] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: try pinging something
[11:33] <Guitrokr> in nework tools?
[11:33] <jenda> Could someone please check for me - will "sudo parted /dev/sdb1 resize 0 120000" resize a partition to start at the start of the disk and end at 120 GB (approx)?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr:  ping google.com
[11:34] <Fredle> you prob. use ext..  there are some great driver out there for windows to get ext working on it
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: or ping something on your network first
[11:34] <Fredle> I know some people who got windows installed on ext3
[11:34] <Fredle> and it seems to wrok better then on ntfs or fat ;-)
[11:34] <Guitrokr> 5requests and i got times and bars and 100% succesful packets haha
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: *cough* then you are connected
[11:35] <kimat> yes i am
[11:35] <Guitrokr> haha i KNOW! this is why im so confused
[11:35] <Fredle> so..  ext3 won't be a great problem if you don't want to mount it with macosx
[11:35] <Guitrokr> i try to unpug the wired connection and connect to the network and i get nothng
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: is it just that nm-applet is still rotating?
[11:35] <opu1> has anybody had issues with the partitioner during install of ubuntu not recognizing existing partitions, the installer keeps wanting me to reformat the entire drive
[11:35] <Guitrokr> yeah it stays grey
[11:36] <Guitrokr> and never connects, then gives u
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: sometimes you need to disconnect and reconnect from the applet
[11:36] <l3ct0r> Can anyone tell me how i can find the total ram supported by the motherboard on which I am running ubuntu?
[11:36] <Guitrokr> like restart the applet you mean?
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: ie disable/re-enable networking
[11:36] <Guitrokr> ok
[11:36] <l3ct0r> is there a way to do it using `lshw`?
[11:36] <Guitrokr> i'llgive a shot
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: right click, disable, then re-enable
[11:37] <ffm> Possible to use GNUTELLA (in a termianl) on linux?
[11:37] <l3ct0r> anyone? :)
[11:37] <lfs__> how to be sure that my graphic drivers work good or bad ?
[11:37] <berzoid> I was upgrading to feisty the terminal way and when prompted what to do when it found an altered config file I pressed D to examine the difference between the files, but now I don't know how to get back to the installer, could anyone help me?
[11:37] <ffm> Is it Possible to use GNUTELLA (in a termianl) on linux?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: obviously, make sure you don't have the wire plugged in ;-)
[11:37] <ffm> berzoid: Why did you ise the terminal?
[11:37] <Lobosque> I have just installed a new HD with windows, and now, when i trty to boot my HD with linux, i get this error after grub loads the ubuntu: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[11:38] <ffm> Is it Possible to use GNUTELLA (in a termianl) on linux?] \
[11:38] <thoreauputic> !repeat| ffm
[11:38] <ubotu> ffm: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:38] <Chris_XY> ffm, tey mldonkey ;)
[11:38] <Chris_XY> *try
[11:38] <berzoid> when using the upgrade program for some reason it tried to upgrade to 6.10, noticed I already had that and stopped
[11:39] <Lobosque> I have just installed a new HD with windows, and now, when i trty to boot my HD with linux, i get this error after grub loads the ubuntu: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". what should I do now??
[11:39] <ffm> mldonkey
[11:39] <ninjagamer> Hello everyone. I am attemping to install ubunto 7.04 FF but when I boot from cd and try to install ubuntu with the GUI i get the following error "/bin/sh:cna't acess tty; job control turned off" ...would there be any issues intalling ubuntu form a 6.10 live cd and then upgrading to 7.04?
[11:39] <agresor> Hello, how to check is my Graphic Card installed and work good ????? Please answer
[11:40] <Kube> REALPLAYER doesnt play audio.. what can I do to fix this??
[11:40] <agresor> !ati driver
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <thoreauputic> !ati
[11:40] <agresor> !ati
[11:40] <agresor> ;s
[11:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:40] <Lobosque> I have just installed a new HD with windows, and now, when i trty to boot my HD with linux, i get this error after grub loads the ubuntu: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". what should I do now??
[11:40] <Dave_is_sexy> can i open a .deb as an archive? xarchiver says not
[11:40] <thoreauputic> the bot is slow today...
[11:40] <carlos> hola
[11:41] <carlos> algien habla espaol
[11:41] <thoreauputic> !es
[11:41] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:41] <ninjagamer>  Hello everyone. I am attemping to install ubunto 7.04 FF but when I boot from cd and try to install ubuntu with the GUI i get the following error "/bin/sh:cna't acess tty; job control turned off" ...would there be any issues intalling ubuntu form a 6.10 live cd and then upgrading to 7.04?
[11:42] <Guitrokr> thoreauputic| when i unplugged the wire it tried to go to wirless but got nowhere and when i tried a ping this time without it wired it said it couldn't find google
[11:43] <Guitrokr> thoreauputic| when i unplugged the wire it tried to go to wirless but got nowhere and when i tried a ping this time without it wired it said it couldn't find google
[11:43] <mapez> anyone here know where I can find that flash file of all of churcills quotes chronologically
[11:43] <jenda> Could someone please check for me - will "sudo parted /dev/hdb resize /dev/hdb1 0 120000" resize a partition to start at the start of the disk and end at 120 GB (approx)?
[11:43] <micalet> alguien sabe si la ltima versin de ubuntu soporta un acer 1692WLMi? Desde las primeras versiones da problemas con la energa, con las bateras
[11:43] <Lobosque> I have just installed a new HD with windows, and now, when i trty to boot my HD with linux, i get this error after grub loads the ubuntu: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". what should I do now??
[11:43] <Wamphyri> ubuntu x64 is still pretty unstable eh
[11:43] <Kube> REALPLAYER doesnt play audio.. what can I do to fix this??
[11:44] <jron> hello, I just finished setting up ubuntu 7.04; I then isntalled the fluxbox package and loaded it up through gdm... when into the fluxbox desktop, right clicking the desktop for the menu brings up nothing other than the fluxbox logo; no fbrun, no application list etc....
[11:44] <jron> this didn't happen on my previous ubuntu install, what is the deal? =(
[11:44] <Riyonuk> Since I know my wirelss card is supported in 6.10, after configuring it, even though it doesnt work while installing, would it be possible to do an internet install or whatever its called
[11:44] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: OK - I'm a bit far away to troubleshoot for you ;p But it looks like you are nearly there judging by the iwlist scan output you are getting
[11:44] <Guitrokr> yes i know im so baffled by this
[11:44] <Guitrokr> haha
[11:45] <GrueTamer> jron: thats a weird problem, i personally havent had it happen to me
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: maybe consult geek friends, or your local LUG
[11:45] <GrueTamer> since im not that good with fluxbox...try deleting it and reinstalling it or something
[11:45] <GrueTamer> but if you want me to, i can get out of gnome and get into fluxbox for easier help
[11:45] <Guitrokr> haha i don't have any friends with linux, im the one and only i know
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: or try the mailing list perhaps
[11:46] <h4wk0> Guitrokr; How you getting on?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> !lists | Guitrokr
[11:46] <ubotu> Guitrokr: mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[11:46] <Guitrokr> well i thank you for your help
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: I think you are close to getting it working at least
[11:46] <Guitrokr> i'll probly just reboot and if nothing works i'll call ta day and get to class
[11:46] <Dreamglider> ok im just taking the backup to this ext3 partion and will try to mount it in windows when i get the &?#%"?#"% installed again
[11:46] <Guitrokr> thank again
[11:47] <thoreauputic> Guitrokr: no worries :)
[11:47] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to do a netboot install, following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot but it says the server doesn't exist.  I've the guide says to try the UK server, but it doesn't work.  Any ideas?
[11:47] <ice_cream> instead of reformatting and installing the new vers, can i somehow just obtain the latest ubuntu patch of a kernel?
[11:47] <h4wk0> thoreauputic; I have the same problem as guitrokr
[11:47] <thoreauputic> h4wk0: have you read the wiki ?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> !bcm43xx | h4wk0
[11:47] <ubotu> h4wk0: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[11:48] <h4wk0> Ok
[11:48] <h4wk0> Im going to boot into my linux
[11:48] <h4wk0> have my desktop in irc
[11:48] <h4wk0> brb
[11:51] <mwe> nah
[11:51] <mobutu> anyone have their sound work after hibernation?
[11:52] <mwe> mobutu: works fine
[11:52] <tale> anybody a joost beta tester?  I'd like an invite if you don't mind.
[11:52] <antum> Is it possible to connect to an Ubuntu computer from a Mac OS X? I currently use SSH but wondering if there's a more graphical way?
[11:52] <thoreauputic> antum: yes, samba or NFS
[11:52] <smileboot> is anyone running a basic setup of feisty fawn with javascript installed?
[11:52] <mwe> antum: I think there is, but I'm not into the details
[11:53] <antum> thoreauputic, is that remote desktop or just sharing the filesystem?
[11:53] <thoreauputic> antum: but setting up NFS on mac-osx is a pain, frankly :)
[11:53] <antum> mwe any idea where to start?
[11:53] <h4wk> thoreauputic: Ive got a weird outcome to lspci
[11:53] <thoreauputic> antum: that's sharing files
[11:53] <mwe> smileboot: well, I have firefox. It supports javascrips
[11:53] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[11:53] <assasukasse> someone uses acetoneiso?
[11:53] <agraveley> are there any truecrypt feisty debs floating around yet? everything i see on the forums has me building from source
[11:53] <assasukasse> i can't make it run
[11:54] <mwe> antum: no, sorrut
[11:54] <smileboot> mwe can you do me a favour?
[11:54] <antum> thoreauputic is there any way to get a remote desktop connection?
[11:54] <h4wk> !pastebin
[11:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:54] <Lobosque> I have just installed a new HD with windows, and now, when i trty to boot my HD with linux, i get this error after grub loads the ubuntu: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". what should I do now??
[11:54] <mwe> smileboot: maybe
[11:54] <thoreauputic> antum: sharing a desktop I don't know, but there must be a vnc clent for mac I guess
[11:54] <smileboot> could you goto hotels.com and try and look up a time hotel and tell me what happens plz
[11:54] <thoreauputic> antum: there is also No-machine NX
[11:54] <antum> thoreauputic, good idea, is there a vnc server for ubuntu that you know of?
[11:54] <h4wk> thoreauputic:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18691/
[11:55] <smileboot> cause any site that uses javascript to post or send information just does nothing for me
[11:55] <thoreauputic> antum: yes, it's there by default - terminal server in the internet menu
[11:55] <feed> hi =)
[11:55] <smileboot> i mean nothing just sits there loading and nothing
[11:55] <antum> thoreauputic thanks for your help, that should give me enough to get going
[11:55] <h4wk> !bcm43xx
[11:55] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[11:55] <smileboot> kinda makes most sites useless
[11:56] <feed> anyone can help me with the installation of madwifi patch?
[11:56] <mwe> smileboot: it seems to be broken. other js sites work, though.
[11:56] <ryanakca> I can play sound, but I can't record. I have a "00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)" and so need 'alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc3' according to http://kac.duf.hu/~balage/doksik/asus-a6m-q074.html . On feisty, the version I have is: 1.0.13-3ubuntu1 . Any idea where I can find the newer version?
[11:57] <Lobosque> I have just installed a new HD with windows, and now, when i trty to boot my HD with linux, i get this error after grub loads the ubuntu: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". what should I do now??
[11:57] <mobutu> mwe: my sound does not work after hibernation, i have to reboot.  what am i doing wrong?
[11:57] <deadeyez> hi all, how can I disable a proxy that I have set with "export HTTP_PROXY" for apt-get?
[11:57] <mwe> mobutu: I don't know
[11:57] <francois_> i've got a 60gig usb drive that i want to search for all mpg filetypes, how can i do this ?
[11:57] <smileboot> mwe ive been having problems with LOADS of javascript sites
[11:58] <deadeyez> found it:p
[11:58] <thoreauputic> h4wk:  4328 is not listed at http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[11:58] <pike_> francois_: locate -u will work to update locate but: find /media/usb -name *.mpg  will work also i guess
[11:58] <ice_cream> francois_, cd into the directory, then ls | grep mpg
[11:58] <Riyonuk> Where can I get Ubuntu torrents?
[11:58] <smileboot> forums travel sites and random java advert thingies that just leave a huge blank space on the screen covering up text
[11:58] <mwe> Lobosque: sounds like it want bash. link /bin/sh to bash if you don't mind
[11:58] <Ashex|srv> !torrents Riyonuk
[11:58] <Ashex|srv> !torrents > Riyonuk
[11:59] <mwe> smileboot: I see
[11:59] <Lobosque> mwe what is bash? and how do i link to bash?
[11:59] <ice_cream> oh, if you have the files in sub directories, then use find, as pike_  said
[11:59] <h4wk> So that means thoreauputic - Its not possible?
[11:59] <francois_> ice_cream: thanks but i want to search the whole drive, not just a directory, i think pike has the idea, thanks though
[11:59] <mwe> smileboot: try opera, maybe
[11:59] <Ashex|srv> bah, just go to ubuntu.com and click the download button
[11:59] <francois_> pike_: thanks :)
[11:59] <smileboot> hmm good idea
[11:59] <smileboot> that aint free tho is it :(
[11:59] <mwe> Lobosque: can you boot your system at all?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> h4wk: I don't know - are you sure you have a broadcom wifi card ?
[11:59] <mwe> smileboot: it is
[12:00] <smileboot> ooooh yay for free linux versions of software :D
[12:00] <lufis> Can anyone help me with my HP scanner? It's a pretty old piece of hardware (2000-ish). Using it in Windows worked very well. It works in Kooka and XScan but the colors are too contrast-y and there are bright lines interspaced on the images.
[12:00] <h4wk> thoreauputic:  Windows Vista device manager says i do
[12:00] <Lobosque> mwe no, it stops at 1/10 of the boot progress and give me what i said
[12:00] <mwe> smileboot: free, as in you don't have to pay to use it
[12:00] <thoreauputic> h4wk: maybe it is very recent and unsupported in Linux ( just guessing)
[12:00] <Riyonuk> What cd burning software should I use, Im on windows
[12:00] <lufis> Riyonuk: for what purpose?
[12:00] <thoreauputic> h4wk: you might have to use ndiswrapper
[12:01] <h4wk> I did only buy the laptop a couple of months ago


[06:53] <kenn> Hi guys. Is there a way I can get the private IP address of my machine? I know unit-get private-address returns the hostname, but I specifically need the IP.
[07:44] <stub> kenn: In my environments, private-address is an IP address. If you are in Python, socket.gethostbyname(hostname) should convert either to the IP. Hopefully you don't end up with the loopback address or something useless like that.
[07:46] <stub> Can someone give me the minimal steps to firing up a Swift server? My simple one failed with  Bug #1238660, but I'm hoping it was my fail rather than the charm.
[07:46] <_mup_> Bug #1238660: Default installation fails <swift-proxy (Juju Charms Collection):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238660>
[07:50] <routelastresort> Must verify that any software installed or utilized is verified as coming from the intended source. Any software installed from the Ubuntu archive satisfies this due to the apt sources including cryptographic signing information.
[07:51] <routelastresort> and Must call Juju API tools (relation-*, unit-*, config-*, etc) without a hard coded path. Should default to use software that is included in the Ubuntu archive, however we encourage that charm authors have a config options for allowing users to deploy from newer upstream releases, or even right from VCS if it's useful to users.
[07:51] <routelastresort> so, if deploying from VCS, e.g. github.......
[07:51] <routelastresort> I was just going to see how everyone else was doing it
[07:52] <routelastresort> and write packages later
[08:20] <stub> routelastresort: If you are writing your charm in Python, charm-helpers has some support for deploying from VCS. I think only bzr at the moment, but would be easy to add git support too. Most people seem to be using packages wherever possible.
[09:00] <kenn> stub: thanks I wrote some quick bash to run it through dig if it wasn't already and IP. I only get a hostname on AWS, not locally
[13:42] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: question if you've got a sec. Working on this api endpoint I know deployer files can be json/yaml but do they allow any fancy yaml bits?
[13:42] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: I want to know if I can ask you to send me json every time or if that'll never fly, you need the option for both to validate properly?
[15:39] <TheMue> stub: ping
[15:51] <marcoceppi> rick_h_: I'd rather send the original format, can send with content type, but translation from yaml -> json might not translate 100%
[15:51] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: yea, sorry. The more I thought about that the more I went "bad plan"
[16:13] <Anju> rick_h_ : ping
[16:13] <rick_h_> Anju: pong
[16:14] <Anju> rick_h_:  can we find the usage of block storage and object storage by juju
[16:14] <rick_h_> Anju: hmm, outside my wheel house. Assume you mean in openstack/swift or something?
[16:15] <Anju> openstack
[16:15] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: any hints on where to point Anju at?
[16:15] <Anju> rick_h_:  thanks
[16:16] <rick_h_> Anju: yea, not sure what reporting tools are available in openstack for monitoring stuff like the disk usage
[16:17] <Anju> rick_h_:  i just want to know about ceph
[16:17] <Anju> I want to use that in opensatck
[16:17] <rick_h_> Anju: using the ceph charm then?
[16:17] <Anju> rick_h_:  means
[16:18] <Anju> rick_h_:  please help
[16:19] <rick_h_> Anju: means?
[16:19] <marcoceppi> Anju: rick_h_: not able to go in to it ATM, you can ask on askubuntu.com
[16:19] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: cool thanks
[16:20] <rick_h_> Anju: so yea, in checking out a quick search of the ceph docs http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/monitoring/#checking-a-cluster-s-status looks like it'd give you some basic usage info
[16:20] <rick_h_> Anju: so you could juju ssh to your ceph service and maybe that will get you started.
[16:20] <Anju> rick_h_:  yes rick_h_
[16:20] <Anju> i followed this one
[16:20] <Anju> a command ceph -s
[16:20] <rick_h_> Anju: if you've got more details then marcoceppi makes a great point that it would be a great askubuntu.com question and easier to provide details on what you're running and what you want to get out of it.
[16:21] <Anju> rick_h_:  some questions I want to know
[16:22] <Anju> sorry if I am stealing your time
[16:22] <rick_h_> Anju: not at all, the issue is just I'm not a ceph expert. I'm honestly not going to have the answer for you right now. The best thing to do is to hit up askubuntu.com and write them out. Then others can see/respond better.
[16:23] <Anju> okk rick_h_
[16:23] <Anju> thanks
[16:24] <rick_h_> np, once you write them out make sure to tag them juju and ceph.
[16:25] <Anju> rick_h_:  thanks
[17:12] <m_3> does open-port take ranges yet?
[17:46] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: got a sec?
[19:28] <crombar> I have a quick question about juju on aws: Is there a way to setup a raid 10 ebs using juju, or do I have to set that up manually? I am thinking about deploying the mongodb charm.
[21:06] <zradmin> has anyone gotten a  HOOK Host key verification failed. error on charms with brand new hosts?
[22:58] <kurt_> Anyone - I discovered bug 1276734 was actually not fixed in 1.16.0 as it said it was.  I noted this in the bug tracker, but no one has responded.  What can I do about this?
[23:02] <davecheney> kurt_: go to #juju-dev, complain loudly
[23:03] <kurt_> davecheney: ok, thanks
[23:14] <kurt_> davecheney: were you guys already talking about it?
[23:17] <davecheney> nope


[19:55] <rbasak> o/
[19:56] <sil2100> o/
[19:56] <cyphermox> o/
[19:56] <sil2100> In theory there were some talk to get this moved to the main channel, I guess?
[19:56] <cyphermox> wasn't there a conflicting meeting before?
[19:56] <mdeslaur> o/
[19:57] <cyphermox> maybe it's not the case anymore
[19:57] <mdeslaur> should we move over now? there are more people in the other channel
[19:57] <cyphermox> no objection from me
[19:57] <mdeslaur> I don't really care either way
[19:59] <vorlon> ditto; though yes we were asked to move to #ubuntu-meeting and it seems there's no longer a conflict
[19:59] <cyphermox> alrighty then, let's d othat now
[20:04] <cyphermox> -- our meeting is going on in #ubuntu-meeting instead --


[09:23] <ev> oh wow, thanks for fixing that! That's quite the long-standing bug.
[09:24] <ev> I can't remember what blocked us previously.  I think I tried to fix it in python-debconf and got stuck, but this was years ago.
[09:25] <cjwatson> I suspect there were older instances of the bug - feel free to dup
[09:33] <ev> will do
[09:33] <ev> so what's going on with wubi?
[09:33] <ev> skaet contacted me last night, but when I replied she said you had a handle on it, then rick said you basically haven't slept yet in trying to fix it
[09:35] <cjwatson> I'm still debugging through grub
[09:35] <cjwatson> it's crashing just after 'set root=(loop0)', which makes me very suspicious since that's been a problem location in the past
[09:36] <cjwatson> single-stepping at the moment to try to figure out where it dies - in the past attempts to insert debug code have made the problem go away, so I think I have to use non-invasive techniques
[09:37] <cjwatson> I wish management would quit comparing notes on how much I sleep. :-)
[09:37] <ev> heh
[09:37] <ev> it got a wag of the finger by claire in the kitchen
[09:37] <ev> directed at rick
[09:38] <ev> apparently someone should've held you down and made you sleep ;)
[09:41] <cjwatson> I was awake *anyway*
[09:43] <ev> :) if it comes back up, I'll be sure to mention that
[09:52] <cjwatson> not that I don't appreciate the concern
[09:54] <ev> of course
[12:44] <davmor2> ev: I thought the 4 px high ubiquty task bar was something that got fixed?
[12:51] <ev> not yet; in a meeting though
[12:58] <davmor2> ah nps
[13:32] <cjwatson> single-stepping shows, I think, grub_file_getline returning GRUB_ERR_BAD_FS on the next read after 'set root=(loop0); if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then set gfxmode=auto; load_video; insmod gfxterm; fi'
[13:32] <cjwatson> which is progress of a sort
[13:35] <cjwatson> hm, I wonder if I can find the error message in memory
[13:37] <cjwatson> I'm making copious use of gdb's 'find' command to find functions in memory
[13:38] <cjwatson> and 'disas /r' and 'disas /rm' in another window
[13:41] <cjwatson> "read out of range", by the looks of things
[13:41] <cjwatson> out for a bit
[13:41] <cjwatson> (which message is only emitted by the ntfs implementation, usefully)
[14:04] <ev> incidentally, have you played around with the python support in gdb?
[14:05] <ev> there's a great presentation from pycon by an engineer at redhat who was using it to dig at memory leaks in yum bubbling up to their installer, amongst other things
[14:07] <ev> http://pycon.blip.tv/file/4877544/
[14:28] <cjwatson> not as yet no ...
[14:28]  * cjwatson saves that for later :)
[14:35] <CarlFK> ev: do you have time to poke at my d-i apt-setup/local0/repository bug 728710 ?
[14:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 728710 in debian-installer "d-i apt-setup/local0/repository not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728710
[17:11] <kirkland> cjwatson: i saw that cdebconf was accepted;  thanks;  could you ping me as soon as d-i gets rebuilt, so that I can check the new iso's?
[17:13] <cjwatson> I'm not planning to do it right away, maybe tomorrow
[17:13] <cjwatson> sure, I'll let you know
[17:13] <cjwatson> nobody manually accepted cdebconf - the entire queue was flushed (FWIW)
[17:50] <cjwatson> fgrep -al "$(printf '\x39\xcf\x73\xd3\x85\xff')" build/grub-pc/grub-core/*.mod
[17:50] <cjwatson> you know you're doomed when this is part of your debugging process
[17:59] <cjwatson> (probably wants LC_ALL=C)
[18:09] <ev> lol
[18:15] <cjwatson> interestingly, the first point where I'm seeing an error in the NTFS driver is inside loadfont
[18:15] <cjwatson> I'm wondering if bufio is 64-bit-unclean
[18:17] <cjwatson> though not *entirely* sure whether that would account for it yet
[20:35] <relmoyd> I am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my HP 110 netbook
[20:35] <relmoyd> The installation freezes at the 'Preparing to install' page


[09:49] <m_x> Hi, I have noticed that https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa doesn't have FF 68 ESR. Is this PPA still maintained ?
[10:37] <ricotz> m_x, I have the intention to push recent esr releases there, but ran into issues lately
[10:57] <m_x> ok thank you !


[01:54] <linearain> hi
[04:27] <Bashing-om> Nighty nite good folks
[07:25] <ducasse> good morning all
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:05] <ducasse> good morning BluesKaj - how are things?
[13:06] <BluesKaj> hi ducasse, ok here, and you?
[13:07] <ducasse> good, thanks. ready for the holidays :) reading the capsman docs before getting into setup, but i hate wifi :-/
[13:38] <daftykins> o0
[13:41] <ducasse> \o daftykins
[13:42] <daftykins> good afty
[13:42] <daftykins> what's this wifi hatred caused by? :) i mean it's a pretty default state for all, but specifically today? :D
[13:43] <ducasse> i think it's mainly because i just quit smoking - it's certainly not helping :)
[13:43] <daftykins> ooh congrats
[13:44] <ducasse> thanks, it had to be done sooner or later.
[13:44] <ducasse> i like capsman, i just don't like the underlying tech. wired ftw.
[13:45] <daftykins> ah i had to look that up, surely that's only relevant to a corporate setup
[13:46] <ducasse> i'm just using it to learn it, since i've got two mikrotik devices anyway.
[13:46] <daftykins> *nod*
[13:46] <daftykins> i just heard a radio discussion program about the UK government finding £440 million spare and deciding to help rural folks get broadband with it
[13:47] <ducasse> oooh, nice!
[13:47] <daftykins> one person called in and said their village dug a trench themselves for their fiber line, then a company 'b4rn' came in and laid it - sounds kinda neat
[13:48] <daftykins> https://b4rn.org.uk/ funky
[13:49] <ducasse> i read about a guy near bergen who laid his own fiber, got a spool from china and paid a local isp to hook him up.
[13:49] <daftykins> :D
[13:49] <daftykins> that'd be tempting, but i remember TJ said there's a lot of regulations involved plus i'd imagine having to ask every person for permission to dig on their land would get old quick
[13:51] <ducasse> this was his land -> public -> pole -> isp iirc
[13:51] <ducasse> he had to talk to the council, that was about it.
[13:52] <daftykins> mmm that's handy
[13:52] <ducasse> transport on a full spool of fiber from china was not cheap, though, and it was a lot of work.
[13:53] <daftykins> i wonder if the island by me has repaired their fiber links yet...
[13:54] <daftykins> can't even look it up as all results speak of New Jersey
[13:54] <ducasse> my mother just signed up for fiber, maybe i should rollback 25 years and move into her basement :)
[13:57] <daftykins> :D
[13:57] <daftykins> or just put a box there you control ;)
[13:58] <ducasse> seedbox? :)
[13:58] <daftykins> anything!
[13:58] <daftykins> are you close enough that regular visits are feasible? :P
[14:00] <ducasse> about 40km. but i've got more bandwidth than she's likely to go for, i just got upgraded to 250mbps because changed pricing.
[14:01] <ducasse> what happened to the island near you that broke their fiber?
[14:04] <daftykins> well everything here carried on as normal but they lost all their links to England - had to shift them all to their routes to France i imagine
[14:06] <ducasse> hmm. big or small island? smaller often uses microwave, don't they?
[14:08] <daftykins> Jersey's a bit bigger than the one i'm on
[14:11] <ducasse> i've been looking for a new desk, want to fit another screen. found a nice, solid slab of a desk that i'm hoping to pick up next week. just need to organize transport, i don't drive...
[14:12] <daftykins> have you seen those brackets that clamp to one spot on the back of the desk... then arms reach out that have VESA mountings?
[14:12] <daftykins> that'd be nice to avoid the requirement for desk stands
[14:13] <ducasse> i've thought about those, but only one of my current screens has a vesa mount.
[14:15] <daftykins> ah drat!
[14:15] <daftykins> ooh there's a good channel shuffle, 5 removed
[14:16] <ducasse> it would be nice, as it would be easier to line screens up edge to edge, but both of my current ones have controls on the right side...
[15:48] <nicomachus> http://i.imgur.com/48LLlss.jpg
[15:54] <DArqueBishop> nicomachus: I kinda want that shirt now.
[16:04] <daftykins> me too :o
[16:06] <ducasse> nice :)
[16:07] <daftykins> aaah i am muchly bored until work is available again :P
[16:07] <daftykins> i think i need to redevelop the ability to enjoy downtime!
[16:09] <nicomachus> daftykins: my entire office is basically just waiting for Christmas to get here. I've barely done anything productive this week.
[16:09] <daftykins> hehe
[16:09] <nicomachus> here's the shirt: https://www.redbubble.com/people/cosmogorilla/works/21144265-obey-sudo?grid_pos=50&p=t-shirt&style=mens
[16:10] <daftykins> ooh good man
[16:10] <nicomachus> $24.80, not bad.
[16:10] <nicomachus> and lots of colors.
[16:10] <DArqueBishop> Interesting.
[16:10] <DArqueBishop> I was on Redbubble yesterday because on a whim I was looking for Neuromancer-themed laptop bags.
[16:10] <DArqueBishop> I saw some laptop skins that made me wish my laptop wasn't a company-provided one.
[16:11] <nicomachus> oh wow, you can even get it in a hoodie, long-sleeve, graphic, whatever...
[16:11] <nicomachus> I like this one: https://www.redbubble.com/people/cosmogorilla/works/21144265-obey-sudo?p=mens-graphic-t-shirt&style=mens-graphic-t-shirt&body_color=black
[18:23] <pauljw> Hi everyone


[19:32] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:58] <ajmitch> morning
[19:58]  * ajmitch wonders if anyone else will be in the office here today
[19:59] <ibeardslee> bit nippy down that way?
[19:59] <ajmitch> it's a bit white outside
[19:59] <snail> the cablecar is down
[20:00] <ajmitch> I guess my sister won't be making her commute in to dunedin this morning, SH1 is closed :)
[20:02] <snail> SH2 is closed at Te Marua too
[20:11]  * ajmitch should have grabbed a hot pie or something on the way to work
[20:11] <ajmitch> the office takes awhile to warm up
[20:33] <snail> ajmitch: clearly you don't have enough machines
[21:09] <thumper> morning
[21:10] <ajmitch> days like this I'm jealous of people like thumper who can work from home :)
[21:10] <thumper> I'm going to light the fire soon
[21:10] <thumper> everyone else is not working (around here) and playing in snow
[21:10] <thumper> I foresee some long valgrind runs
[21:11] <ajmitch> that'll heat things up nicely
[21:12] <ajmitch> how's unity coming along?
[22:38] <Atamira> morning
[22:58]  * mwhudson watches with amusement people trying to get a laptop running xp talking to the printer
[23:17] <thumper> ajmitch: good
[23:18] <thumper> ajmitch: I do have alternating moments of excitement and dispair
[23:44] <chilts> morning
[23:52] <ojwb> hello