[09:45] <mulder> Do you know how to have the audigy 2 zs working Dr Willis, and can you help me with that please?
[09:45] <geno_> gnomefreak: Thanks!
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: try sudo dpkg --reconfigure kdm
[09:45] <meta> i have 2 boxes and one cable, and no router. so i want to copy from box a to box b
[09:45] <geno_> IT's very nice!|
[09:45] <gnomefreak> geno_: yw
[09:46] <meta> how can i create a conenction between the two boxes?
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> meta: needs to be a crossover
[09:46] <meta> in the easiest way
[09:46] <felixjet> i installed a game with sudo, and now i can play only with sudo. its a risk ?
[09:46] <meta> i dunno what type is this
[09:46] <meta> so i heard about zeroconf but i duunno what is that
[09:46] <annulus> meta you've got ssh? then scp, you've got some kind of ftpd? then ncftp.. :)
[09:46] <meta> i have sftpd
[09:47] <meta> so i can sftp but if i conencts the two boxers
[09:47] <annulus> then create a user and connect from the another machine
[09:47] <meta> but i can't
[09:47] <gnomefreak> felixjet: its not a good idea to play games as sudo
[09:47] <meta> no network between the two box....
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> felixjet: i don't think it is, but as always you should run as little things sudo as possibl
[09:47] <Dr_willis> felixjet,  what game?
[09:47] <lucian303> admiral: i'll give it a shot ...
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> jdiwnab: i answered your question i theigh
[09:47] <felixjet> enemy territoryt
[09:47] <meta> how can i build up a network between the two machine?
[09:47] <meta> what program can do that?
[09:47] <annulus> meta give ip address to the two pc from the same block
[09:47] <meta> how?
[09:47] <annulus> example <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:47] <meta> i'm a newbie in this place
[09:47] <annulus> ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:47] <Dr_willis> meta,  you have 2 machines each has a network card?
[09:48] <felixjet> well, thanks. ill remove it and install again without sudo
[09:48] <meta> yes
[09:48] <meta> i have a cable that connect onebox to the dsl modem
[09:48] <Dr_willis> meta,  you need to wire them togehter then right? You need EITHER a crossover-network cable.. or a hub/switch and 2 more cables..
[09:48] <meta> no
[09:48] <meta> i have one cable, as i said...
[09:48] <jdiwnab> Admiral_Chicago, I can't find it in my backlog
[09:48] <meta> no way to copy box to box?:D
[09:49] <Dr_willis> meta,  a NORMAL network cable will not work.
[09:49] <meta> i can't belive that
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> jdiwnab: you don't need internet to install ubuntu
[09:49] <lucian303> admiral: it tells me dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[09:49] <Dr_willis> meta,  go reserch it then.., theres a reason crossover cables exist.
[09:49] <jdiwnab> oh, ok, but what about it freezing?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know why it keeps crashing, did you do a checksum of the CDS?
[09:49] <jdiwnab> yes
[09:49] <jdiwnab> they check out
[09:49] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: edgy live cd?
[09:49] <meta> and what if it not crossover?
[09:49] <jdiwnab> live and the alternate
[09:49] <gnomefreak> both?
[09:49] <Dr_willis> meta,  then the wires wont connect right and it wont work.
[09:50] <jdiwnab> both
[09:50] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: what part is it freezing on?
[09:50] <jdiwnab> after it formats my drives
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: try sudo dpkg --ronfigure kdm
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: try sudo dpkg --configure kdm
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[09:50] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: during install of packages?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: at what percent is it stopping? and is it same time on both live and alternate?
[09:51] <FlameMaster> hello
[09:51] <lucian303> admiral: that gives me:   package kdm is already installed and configured
[09:51] <jdiwnab> on the live one, I click install and it formats my disk, then crashes/freezes. For the alt, it formats my drive and then sits there with a blue screen for (now) and hour and a half
[09:51] <FlameMaster> guys, I need a good firewall for kubuntu edgy
[09:51] <jdiwnab> no percentage
[09:51] <jdiwnab> no progress indicator
[09:51] <FlameMaster> any suggestions?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: do you still have the downloaded ISO's?
[09:52] <felixjet> FlameMaster: firestarter is good, dunno if its on edgy too
[09:52] <jdiwnab> yes
[09:52] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: check the md5sums please
[09:52] <jdiwnab> I used the disck check stuff on the disks
[09:52] <jdiwnab> and I did a memtest
[09:53] <sungam> felixjet: firestarter is on edgy I think. I have it and I don't think I ever installed it :)
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: im hoping its either a bad md5 or a bad burn
[09:53] <FlameMaster> sungam: what do you use then?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> firestarter is still on ubuntu
[09:54] <gnomefreak> its not going anywhere
[09:54] <tfault> Hi all. Does someone know how to make apt-get resume partially downloaded files?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> tfault: run the command again
[09:54] <jdiwnab> what should the md5sum be?
[09:54] <FlameMaster> tfault: it should automatically resume
[09:54] <tfault> That does not work!
[09:54] <canadaian> so is kubuntu edgy fix alot of dapper bugs
[09:55] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: you have to check wher eyou got the iso from
[09:55] <sungam> FlameMaster: at the moment guard dog, but I'm not having oto much luck setting it up properly
[09:55] <deadsoul__> I downloaded aircrack. I want to crack the pw of certain network. I looked at help usage seems like: aircrack [options]  <.cap / .ivs file(s)>  . What is the cap and ivs file here. I can see network by the help of Wireless Assistant
[09:55] <gnomefreak> tfault: it does work. apt will always continue where left off
[09:55] <gnomefreak> tfault: what command where you using?
[09:55] <lucian303> i guess maybe what i need is a way to force x to start kde rather than gnome from the command line and see if that works. how would i do that?
[09:56] <tfault> gnomefreak: "apt-get install vegastrike" for example
[09:56] <FlameMaster> sungam: I installed KMyFirewall, but it's throwing me errors
[09:56] <TheGateKeeper> canadaian: nope it got a lot of it's very own
[09:56] <gnomefreak> lucian303: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[09:56] <tfault> gnomefreak: I know apt-get is supposed to resume old file but it does not now!
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: try sudo apt-get remove gdm && sudo apt-get remove kdem && sudo apt-get install kdm
[09:56] <jdiwnab> md5sum check
[09:56] <gnomefreak> tfault: what is it doing?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: why?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: why not sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:57] <gnomefreak> that will set kdm as default
[09:57] <tfault> gnomefreak: It just starts downloading from the beginning of the file!
[09:57] <gnomefreak> tfault: what is it doing and how do you know its not fully downloaded?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> tfault: thats normal
[09:58] <gnomefreak> tfault: it saves some of it in cache
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: tried that already
[09:58] <gnomefreak> if it ended with say 3 seconds left the download isnt gonna start at 3seconds
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> no we didn't thats a lie
[09:58] <tfault> I have /some/ of the file in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial!
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> lucian303: listen to gnomefreak
[09:59] <sungam> FlameMaster: I'm running firestarter now, to see how it is. I haven't been using linux as my primary OS for very long, and haven't found a piece of firewall software I'm really happy with.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> tfault: if apt feels it can use it it will but if it started at 3sec. than it would leave app in an unstable state
[09:59] <FlameMaster> sungam: I'm installing firestarter right now
[10:00] <Dr_willis> ive rarely needed firewalls with linux. :P
[10:00] <sungam> :)
[10:00] <soulrider> can someone tell me how to read a file form a floppy drive ?
[10:00] <FlameMaster> you can never be too safe :)
[10:00] <sungam> I'd like a piece of software that behaved like Comodo or F-Secure does on Windows
[10:00] <sungam> behaves, I mean
[10:00] <bobbyyu> What's a good Edgy source where I can get libdvd packages?
[10:00] <Dr_willis> FlameMaster,  like wearing 2 raincoats. :)
[10:00] <sungam> hehe
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> bobbyyu: did you check the multiverse/universe
[10:01] <imbrandon> bobbyyu, http://seveas.imbrandon.com
[10:01] <FlameMaster> oh well, I just installed firestarter... I'll test it right now
[10:01] <bobbyyu> How do I add this to Adept?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> !repos
[10:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:02] <FlameMaster> Adept -> Manage Repositories
[10:02] <FlameMaster> uncomment the lines that have multiverse/universe
[10:03] <jdiwnab> gnomefreak, the checksum is Ok
[10:03] <Eddy> hi when i play BF2 in cedega is no sound. in Gnome is it sound but not i KDE how can i fix it ?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: what speed did you burn them on
[10:03] <Dr_willis> Eddy,  sounds like an alsa/oss/arts/esd issue. :()
[10:04] <soulrider> Dr_willis:  how can i read forma  floppy drive? /media/floppy isnt showing anything
[10:04] <Dr_willis> Eddy,  you may benifit by using a ultra light window manager   while playing games..
[10:04] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  mount it yet?
[10:04] <soulrider> isnt KDE supposed to mount it by default ?
[10:04] <jdiwnab> I burned the alternate one at 4x
[10:04] <imbrandon> no
[10:04] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  aparently its NOT....
[10:04] <soulrider> ok
[10:04] <jdiwnab> I burned the regular one at 10x
[10:04] <soulrider> what is it, /dev/hda ?
[10:04] <Dr_willis> I got a floppy drive.. but i dont think i got any floppies in the house.
[10:04] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: the 4x should be fine
[10:05] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  right click on the icon and see if theres a mount option.
[10:05] <imbrandon> soulrider, normaly /dev/fd0
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: same here, why did i even get one
[10:05] <Eddy> what kommand do i run when i show kill all sound ?
[10:05] <jdiwnab> I am running the on-disk disk check for the alt disk
[10:05] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: i dont know why.
[10:05] <Eddy> kill...?
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Eddy: pstree
[10:05] <soulrider> imbrandon: its working
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> look for the one running
[10:05] <soulrider> thanks1
[10:05] <soulrider> !
[10:05] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  mine is a floppy drive, and 8 in 1 media reader. combo
[10:05] <Eddy> wath?
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo killall kill <package>
[10:05] <gnomefreak> killall kill?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> kill is not a process it will say
[10:06] <Eddy> hhow do u kill all sound on my sound card ?
[10:06] <sungam> jdiwnab: I had issues installing Dapper when I was on wireless, and Ubuntu couldn't find the net.
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: i got confused. it's killall <process> or killall -KILL <process>
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> Eddy: mute
[10:07] <gnomefreak> Eddy: killall -9 arts
[10:07] <Eddy>  killall -9 arts
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> that's better
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: what does the -9 do?
[10:07] <Eddy> jea i think is whas that
[10:07] <bobbyyu> is it universe or universe multiverse?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: makes sure its dead i think that one ive never been real sure on
[10:08] <FlameMaster> Dr_willis: 50 TCP connections to unused ports on the past two minutes. Of course I had the need for the firewall
[10:08] <bobbyyu> How do I add the entire clause?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> bobbyyu: you want the lines that end in universe put a space and add multiverse if using the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:08] <FlameMaster> sungam: I just tested firestarter. It's simple yet powerful.
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: okay i wasn't sure about -9 or -7
[10:09] <lucian303> ok i managed to do dpkg-reconfig
[10:09] <bobbyyu> none of the DVD packages are appearing. What could be wrong?
[10:09] <lucian303> kdm was the default manager. i selected it again and when it tried to start it, i was just left with a blank screen and a cursor (no prompt or anything) so i rebooted
[10:10] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: the kill command is really misnamed. It allows you to send a signal to the process. The -9 (or -kill) is a kill signal that cannot be ignored by the process. You can send a lot of different signals with kill :)
[10:10] <jdiwnab> gnomefreak, a person on another channel says that the 2 times he tried to install without a network connection, it would stop at the same point, but when he had a network connection, it did. But my NIC won't work untill I install
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: thanks. i've used kill all the time but never known what it does
[10:11] <gnomefreak> jdiwnab: you *shouldnt* need a network connection to install ubuntu never have in past and afaik it hasnt changed
[10:11] <sungam> FlameMaster: have it running now, too. I'll have to see how it behaves :)
[10:11] <FlameMaster> sungam: yes I'm running it
[10:12] <FlameMaster> sungam: It started blocking everything but irc and instant messenging
[10:12] <FlameMaster> sungam: I quickly set up a rule for bittorrent and I have no problems ATM
[10:12] <sungam> FlameMaster: nice :)
[10:12] <lucian303> i did originally run into some problems with the upgrade because it refused to install kubuntu-desktop, so i installed some of its dependencies first which also removed some packages....
[10:13] <lucian303> and i have 34 packages that will not be upgraded
[10:14] <tfault> Could someone send me the output of "apt-config dump" from an Edgy Eft installation installed from official CD's?
[10:14] <bobbyyu> I'm stuck: Where can I get extra help on adding universe packages?
[10:15] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: I told you already
[10:15] <Filipek> why extra? where is the problem?
[10:15] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: Adept -> Manage Repositories
[10:15] <rdl> yo
[10:15] <rdl> i need help to install video and audio codecs on my laptop
[10:15] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: right-click on the lines that say universe or multiverse, and click on "enable"
[10:15] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: then click on apply and done
[10:16] <lucian303> anyone have any ideas on how i can get kde running again in edgy?
[10:16] <sungam> rdl: automatix :) www.getautomatix.com, did the job for me both on my laptop and desktop
[10:16] <bobbyyu> But I did
[10:17] <Filipek> rdl: ye - automatix rocks in these jobs...
[10:17] <Dr_willis> when it dont trash your system. ;)
[10:17] <hyjkim> hey
[10:17] <rdl> thx
[10:18] <LjL> !automatix | rdl, Filipek
[10:18] <ubotu> rdl, Filipek: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[10:18] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: You might want to add multiverse repositories. Type: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ on "New Repository" and click "Add"
[10:18] <rdl> !automatix
[10:18] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[10:19] <bobbyyu> Do I need to type Deb?
[10:19] <hyjkim> I'm a newbie to linux... I'm trying to install my wireless card through this HOWTO [http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102] . It instructs me to reboot with 2.6.17-7-generic kernel in GRUB. I can't find this option in my grub loader!
[10:19] <Filipek> that means helping someone with my exp. means giving him "official" support? hmmm
[10:19] <hyjkim> I installed kubuntu 6.10 64-bit
[10:19] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: my bad
[10:19] <FlameMaster> bobbyyu: "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse"
[10:20] <rdl> gedit command not found
[10:20] <rdl> heh
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> rdl: try kate
[10:21] <rdl> i have 6.06 version
[10:22] <jmichaelx> would anyone have a suggestion as to how to get mplayer-plugin to work properly in firefox (in edgy)? i did uninstall totem, and re-installed mplayer, but it is still not functioning correctly
[10:22] <rdl> how can i upgrade to it to 6.10?
[10:22] <hyjkim> Is there anyway to use 2.6.17-7-generic kernel? I can only access 2.6.17-10-generic kernel in GRUB
[10:22] <jdiwnab> !upgrade | rdl
[10:22] <ubotu> rdl: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> !update > rdl
[10:25] <cps1966> !java
[10:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:25] <hyjkim> !kernel
[10:25] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:31] <davix> cheers, I have two ethernet cards, one is on a pci slot and one is a built in on the mother board, the built in does not recognise itself automaticly but the pci card does, how can I add the built in card as well?
[10:31] <flexan> Hello
[10:31] <flexan> I would like to install Kubuntu 6.10 but I can't get the liveCD to boot so I can do an install
[10:31] <flexan> It hangs at a light blue screen with a mouse cursor
[10:31] <flexan> any suggestions?
[10:32] <sungam> how long does it hang?
[10:32] <flexan> indefinately
[10:32] <sungam> because it takes a while to load hte os from the disk :)
[10:32] <sungam> ah
[10:32] <flexan> i can hear the startup sound
[10:32] <flexan> but all i get is a lightblue screen and cursor. no icons/menus/etc
[10:33] <flexan> i've also tried the Graphics Safe Mode with the same results
[10:33] <mofle> hi can anyone help me with my printer? :)
[10:34] <sungam> flexan: sorry, it left my scope of knowledge at the point when it wasn't just you being impatient with the os loading :)
[10:34] <flexan> lol
[10:34] <flexan> thanks, np
[10:35] <flexan> is there a way to install without having to boot into X?
[10:35] <flexan> so then i could install the nvidia driver and hopefully get X to start?
[10:35] <flexan> AFAIK i have to boot into X to run the install, i am hoping I am wrong
[10:36] <cps1966> is there a switch i can use so apt doesn't check anything
[10:36] <sungam> first time I installed Dapper I downloaded the server instead of desktop. The dapper server didn't require X I think
[10:36] <sungam> maybe the same goes for the Edgy server
[10:36] <rdl> how many files will download for upgrade to 6.10?
[10:36] <flexan> sungam: i'll give that a try. i saw an alternate CD as well, maybe i can try both
[10:37] <sungam> flexan: just don't shoot me if it doesn't work, they're only guesses, tbh
[10:37] <FlameMaster> alternate cd allows you to install without booting from livecd
[10:37] <flexan> sungam: I don't own a gun, so you are safe ;-)
[10:37] <flexan> FlameMaster: does it boot into X?
[10:38] <FlameMaster> flexan: no
[10:38] <FlameMaster> flexan: the alternate cd is not bootable
[10:38] <flexan> excellent
[10:38] <FlameMaster> flexan: afaik
[10:38] <FlameMaster> flexan: and it gives you more install options than the regular cd
[10:38] <flexan> i'll give that a shot, i'm sure if I can get kubuntu installed, even if X doesn't work I can mess with my xorg.conf and get X working.b ut with the LiveCD if X doesn't work you are basically stuck
[10:39] <flexan> thank you :-)
[10:39] <sungam> I have a thinkpad with a harddrive sensor. The hdaps module is installed, but apparantly I need a queue-freeze patch enabled for the protection system to work. Anyone know how I can see if the queue-freeze patch is included in the kernel I have installed?
[10:40] <flexan> FlameMaster: Do you know if there is a list of cheatcodes (boot options) available for the desktop or alternate 6.10 CD?
[10:41] <OSUKid7> hey, how can I not allow concurrent KDE logons, to save memory on a slow system? also, how can I automatically log the user out after so many minutes of inactivity?
[10:41] <FlameMaster> flexan: no
[10:41] <flexan> alright,t hanks
[10:47] <grothesk> Hi!
[10:47] <scion> hello
[10:47] <grothesk> Anyone running emerald on kubuntu Edgy?
[10:48] <sungam> yes
[10:48] <grothesk> I'm missing the window decorations, when starting emerald.
[10:48] <sungam> try doing a "killall emerald" and then "emerald" after
[10:48] <doppelganger_> anyone heard of anyone with Audigy-Extigy problems since upgrading to Edgy?
[10:49] <mofle> is there any printer drivers for lexmark 2300 series?
[10:49] <|lostbyte|> !6001
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 6001 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <doppelganger_> i had my tv run through my extigy, into the pc, then out to a stereo i have
[10:50] <doppelganger_> now for some reason it doesn't work, or at least not the spdif part that the tv outputs into the extigy
[10:50] <grothesk> sungam: Does not work here.
[10:50] <doppelganger_> spdif is enabled, and worked just fine with Dapper
[10:50] <grothesk> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169 What might that mean, sungam?
[10:50] <Rajah3000> What was that command again to change (the write-protected) text file for the repositories(sources.list)?
[10:50] <doppelganger_> i can even plug my guitar into the stereo plug on the extigy and get sound
[10:51] <doppelganger_> but...  for some reason no spdif in
[10:51] <sungam> grothesk: hmm... are you running beryl-manager?
[10:51] <ubuntu__> got prob... am in cdboot mode of kubuntu + monitor res is onlz 800x600 i tried to change but kubuntu onlz supports 800x600 wtf?
[10:51] <grothesk> Yes, I am.
[10:51] <sungam> grothesk: there's quite a few threads about it on the beryl-project.org forums
[10:51] <doppelganger_> must....watch.... football....  in.....  5.1....
[10:52] <sungam> grothesk: my solution was a startup script which starts emerald twice :)
[10:52] <sungam> grothesk: the solution that worked for me I mean
[10:52] <grothesk> sungam: Thanks! I'll have a look there.
[10:52] <Ace2016> Hi akk
[10:52] <Ace2016> :(
[10:52] <Ace2016> hi all :)
[10:52] <Ace2016> can anyone help me to install this: http://search.cpan.org/dist/last.fm-ripper/
[10:52] <BonBonTheJon> hi Ace2016
[10:52] <mofle> unbuntu_: thats an easy one , theres a lot of information on the forums
[10:52] <Ace2016> I tried myself and it gives an error
[10:53] <Ace2016> Undefined argument in option spec
[10:53] <Ace2016> And now i don't know what to do
[10:53] <Ace2016> Is there some sort of cpan library i have to install to get this to run?
[10:53] <Rajah3000> can you use  kdesu kate to edit a write-protected file, or do you have to use kwrite?
[10:54] <BonBonTheJon> Rajah3000: you can do kdesu kate
[10:54] <Ace2016> you can use either
[10:54] <Rajah3000> Ok, How do you use I mean in what do you use it?
[10:54] <Ace2016> kdesu allows a program to run with root access
[10:54] <galorin_> I've got a kubuntu sytem that I've installed mythtv on.  I'd like to install and configure a VNC server on it without interrupting the tv-watching going on, start up a VNC client elsewhere and connect to an already-running session.  Is this at all possible?
[10:55] <Ace2016> i use it mainly to edit files in /etc/ like fstab and privoxy files
[10:55] <Rajah3000> Ok, that is what I want is there a step-by step to use it, or can someone tell me how to get in it and edit a file?
[10:56] <Ace2016> Rajah3000: press Alt+f2 and type "kdesu kwrite" or "kdesu kate" then kate or kwrite will open with root access, just go file open and open the file, edit it as you like and save
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> !intel
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i install driver for intel itnegrated videocard?
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> i have found this: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> but this is what i need? and need i enable it anyway? like nvidia-glx-config enable?
[10:58] <avuton> How do I install pulseaudio in kubuntu? I see it: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/pulseaudio
[10:58] <avuton> apt-get install pulseaudio doesn't work
[10:59] <buz> avuton: its not in ubuntu
[10:59] <Ace2016> avuton: you could compile it yourself
[10:59] <buz> just because its in debian unstable doesnt mean its in ubuntu (usually thats true though)
[10:59] <avuton> Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that was true :/
[11:00] <jmichaelx> would anyone have a suggestion as to how to get mplayer-plugin to work properly in firefox (in edgy)? i did uninstall totem, and re-installed mplayer, but it is still not functioning correctly
[11:04] <Rajah3000> then I need to do the uprade for the repositories right?..what's that command again?
[11:06] <cps1966> dpkg -i '/home/kane/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb'
[11:06] <cps1966> (Reading database ... 81157 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:06] <cps1966> Unpacking sun-java5-bin (from .../sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[11:06] <cps1966> sun-dlj-v1-1 license has already been accepted
[11:06] <cps1966> dpkg: error processing /home/kane/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:06] <cps1966>  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[11:06] <cps1966> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[11:06] <cps1966> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:06] <cps1966>  /home/kane/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:09] <Ace2016> cps1966: How come your not installing from the ubuntu repos?
[11:10] <Ash-Fox> !mp3
[11:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:10] <RogueJediX> What's the difference between removing and purging in adept?
[11:11] <Lynoure> purging removes configurations as well
[11:11] <RogueJediX> Neat. Thanks, Lynoure
[11:15] <__osh__> Anyone know gdb in here? In "gdb" after I've run gdb on a process and applied a breakpoint, how do I continue running the program?
[11:17] <Rajah3000> Ok, one more thing I wanna know is what do I type to install packages that I have downloaded,and which extentions can I manually install in terminal?
[11:18] <icheyne> does anyone know how to tile windows in kde? I can see the unclutter command, but that's not exactly what I am after as it does not resize windows to fit
[11:18] <scion> sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[11:18] <Rajah3000> ok
[11:19] <Dr_willis> heh - i cant even see the unclutter option
[11:19] <icheyne> Dr_willis, middle mouse click the desktop for unclutter
[11:20] <RogueJediX> Huh, neat. Didn't even know about that little trick
[11:21] <Dr_willis> well isent that special
[11:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:21] <Dr_willis> with the invention of the mouse wheel.. most people dont even try to middle click.
[11:21] <Dr_willis> *sigh*
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> I middle click more than left click I would say
[11:22] <RogueJediX> I'm still in the 90s, I guess. Though I do middle click a lot in Konqueror when opening tabs
[11:22] <jerp> So I can compile some software I need to add the build-essentials.  apt-get, asks for me to load the CD, I load the live cd and I can't clear the message box and can't get apt-get to read from the live disc rather than the /cdrom/ folder.  Any tricks?
[11:25] <Dr_willis> jerp,  download the stuff off the itnernet.
[11:25] <Dr_willis> remove the cd item in the apt.sources
[11:25] <Dr_willis> im not sure build-essentials is even on the cd
[11:25] <jerp> ahh, ok.  thanks
[11:26] <RogueJediX> Well, maybe bits and pieces for it are
[11:26] <gnomefreak> it is
[11:26] <RogueJediX> It is?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> the build-essential package is on cd
[11:26] <Dr_willis> but is it on the live cd and the alt-install cd? or just the alt?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> not installed by default but is on cd
[11:26] <Dr_willis> or both.. :)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: both should have it
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: not sure you can install packages from livecd though now that i think of it
[11:27] <dennister> g'day all
[11:27] <gnomefreak> if you can than its there
[11:27] <icheyne> can you get Firefox 2.0 if you want to stay in Dapper for a while?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> meaning you dont need net to install it
[11:27] <gnomefreak> icheyne: sure
[11:27] <gnomefreak> !firefox | icheyne
[11:27] <ubotu> icheyne: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:28] <dennister> can someone help me fix my cron pls? konq and shells r constantly crashing
[11:28] <icheyne> I just read this and it told me how to do it: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/10/brief-look-at-couple-of-new-features.html
[11:29] <dennister> i think i may need to update my db again, but aam haviy cause cron can't lock the pid
[11:29] <gnomefreak> icheyne: please use the one i gave you (you have to leave the old one installed) i dont know what outside sources say
[11:30] <dennister> !cron
[11:30] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[11:32] <dennister> unfortunately the howto isn't much good to me if cron: can't lock /var/run/cronid.pid
[11:33] <Tim_> Hi all
[11:33] <Tim_> I have a Q
[11:34] <dennister> Tim_: well? the Q?
[11:35] <_JP> is there anything i can do in adept manager during the preparation of installed packages if some installation happens to be interactive and tries to query something
[11:35] <Dr_willis> _JP,  i thoght it alwasy poped up a dialog/requestor...
[11:35] <Tim_> can i undo a file-delete? is there a trashcan?
[11:36] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  bottom right in the panel
[11:36] <Dr_willis> looks like a... err.. trashcan. :)
[11:36] <dennister> hi Dr_willis
[11:36] <Tim_> ah, omg i didnt see it
[11:36] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  :)
[11:36] <dennister> can u help me with this cron problem?
[11:36] <Tim_> its soo small =)
[11:36] <Lynoure> Tim_: only works for GUI deletes, though, so be careful on the command line
[11:37] <Tim_> ok
[11:37] <Tim_> thx
[11:37] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  ive never heard 'that' befor. :)
[11:37] <Tim_> heh
[11:37] <_JP> Dr_willis: i just upgraded to edgy and i'm installing some basic apps i need. i have right now a "Configuring j2re1.4, <ok>" prompt inside adept (visible only if details shown). i can't find any way to make it continue
[11:37] <jerp> Dr_willis: now I'm not able to download the repository indexes, any ideas?
[11:38] <Dr_willis> _JP,  click in the window and hit Y/enter ?
[11:38] <Dr_willis> jerp,  some servers are lagged/down perhaps.
[11:38] <Dr_willis> jerp,  any specific repo you having issues with?
[11:38] <Ace2016> How do i update the locate database?
[11:38] <_JP> Dr_willis: i tried but it's not getting focus or something
[11:39] <dennister> dang! shell crashed again!
[11:39] <jerp> I've got 6 in in a message box, but ok.  dinnertime here anyways, thanks for your help.
[11:39] <_JP> nevermind, i managed to navigate into it by hitting tab
[11:39] <Dr_willis> _JP,  odd.. theres some sort of other packages that used to be needed to installeed. according to the !java factoid..
[11:39] <Lynoure> Ace2016: sudo updatedb  updates it, it does take a bit of time
[11:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:39] <iAlber> hi there, is it still necessary with the Kubuntu 6,10 version and a fresh install to install smp kernel for a dual processor ?
[11:39] <jerp> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[11:40] <Dr_willis> iAlber,  smp is the default.
[11:40] <Dr_willis> localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>) ?
[11:40] <iAlber> thx
[11:40] <Dr_willis> jerp,  thts trying to connect to yourself?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> try     ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:40] <Ace2016> Lynoure: Thanks
[11:40] <jerp> really?  whywould it do that?
[11:40] <jerp> ok
[11:41] <Dr_willis> ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:41] <Dr_willis> PING mirror.mcs.anl.gov (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:41] <larson9999> what's all the hubbub with the edgy upgrade?  i've upgraded 3 different classes off machines with kubuntu and xubuntu and had no problems at all
[11:41] <Dr_willis> larson9999,  you are one of the lucky ones i guess
[11:42] <jerp> yeah, I've got a reply
[11:42] <jerp> too
[11:42] <Dr_willis> same ip?
[11:42] <jerp> my ping seems to run forever, is there a switch that should be added?
[11:42] <Dr_willis> hit ctrl-c
[11:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:43] <larson9999> Dr_willis: so are there lots of real issues or is it mostly user error?  i'm a little paranoid and wonder if i have problems and just don't notice :)
[11:43] <Dr_willis> larson9999,  from what ive heard... lets see.. the standard 'video drivers vanish issue' and sound cards vanish issues... and upstart causes a few problems..
[11:44] <Dr_willis> and a few fstab conversion issues.. people 'loseing' their swap entrys
[11:44] <romeo_> hello ive installed chrrotkit and rkhunter but i can t seen to find it
[11:44] <romeo_> or run it
[11:45] <Dr_willis> installed them how romeo_ ?
[11:45] <jerp> 64 bytes from alpaca-ii.it.anl.gov (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=13 ttl=42 time=156 ms
[11:45] <romeo_> with adept
[11:45] <larson9999> Dr_willis: seems i don't have any of those issues.  the only thing i even had to do was change my resolution back to my preference
[11:45] <Tim_> I easy Q prob: how do i set my root PW?
[11:45] <romeo_> i ts not in the menu
[11:45] <Dr_willis> check theor homepages for guides..  you expecting to find icons for them? they may be command line progs only
[11:46] <romeo_> tried command
[11:46] <romeo_> does show up
[11:46] <romeo_> not*
[11:46] <Dr_willis> romeo_,  when in doubt.. check their homepages for tutorials.. i dont use either program.
[11:46] <romeo_> ok
[11:46] <Dr_willis> use the package manager to see what files they isntalled.
[11:46] <Tim_> someone?
[11:47] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  :) its like a Linux Compentacy test..
[11:47] <dennister> Dr_willis: could u please help me figure out why konq, my shells, and K3rb keep crashing on me?
[11:47] <romeo_> np dependicies
[11:47] <romeo_> just the program
[11:47] <romeo_> no*
[11:47] <Dr_willis> Tim_,  use passwd  as the root user.
[11:47] <dennister> i did the updatedb, but whenever i try to do anything with cron i'm told it can't lock the file
[11:47] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[11:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:47] <Tim_> ok thx!
[11:48] <Dr_willis> dennister,   mass crashing. ick. :)
[11:48] <dennister> another pid is using it, apparently
[11:48] <dennister> i'm at my wit's end
[11:49] <jerp> Dr_willis,  ya got anything quick to fix that "Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[11:49] <dennister> root_: can u pls change ur nic?
[11:50] <larson9999> Dr_willis: judging by some of the social news sites, edgy sucks but seems fine to me.  i figured since i upgraded to 3 very different machines i'd have seen some of the issues.  actually, i think this was the smoothest upgrade ever for me.  go figure.
[11:51] <Dr_willis> i always do clean reinstalls.. :)
[11:51] <Dr_willis> there will be a new batch of problems.. and old things fixed.
[11:52] <Dr_willis> i DO think they set up the ntfs drives where a normal user can access them by default.. so that gets rid of a top 10 FAQ in these channels.
[11:52] <Dr_willis> jerp,  lets clarify - ping did NOT show an ip of <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[11:52] <jerp> right
[11:52] <jerp> 64 bytes from alpaca-ii.it.anl.gov (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=13 ttl=42 time=156 ms
[11:52] <Dr_willis> jerp,  thats... weird...
[11:53] <root_> nabend wie kann ich hier die rme wechseln?
[11:53] <Dr_willis> double check your apt.sources and see what servers its trying to get to.
[11:53] <larson9999> Dr_willis: i did up until mdk 2006.  well, actually i always did upgrades first but always had so many problems i ended up doing a clean install.  mdk was the first time a didn't need to do a clean install.  and so far with *buntu i've always just upgraded.
[11:53] <root_> aha
[11:54] <larson9999> s/mdk was/mdk 2006 was/
[11:54] <Dr_willis> I just keep /home on its own hard drive. and clean install.. i got a script i made to reinstall the pacakges i like.
[11:55] <cps1966> man this is nuts no matter how i get sun-java5-bin it fails
[11:56] <Dr_willis> sun-java-bin? Hmm
[11:56] <Dr_willis> !java
[11:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:56] <Dr_willis> i always install   install sun-java5-jre
[11:56] <Hamal_Dragon> hello
[11:56] <cps1966> well it wants sun-java5-bin also
[11:57] <root_> wo kann man sich ne serverliste holen ?
[11:57] <Dr_willis> !de
[11:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:58] <Hamal_Dragon> i have a problem with kubuntu. After update to edgy, i cant boot. The message is that the target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init, and then, it starts busybox
[11:58] <cobus> hey people
[11:58] <Hamal_Dragon> and i have chrooted the partition, and indeed theres no init on sbin
[11:58] <root_> keine probleme  nur mein englisch ist shit
[11:58] <Hamal_Dragon> i dont know what to do
[11:58] <heinkel_111> upgrading alwaays makes me nervous...but hell yeah, I am now on Edgy! :)
[11:59] <Hamal_Dragon> lucky guy, lol
[11:59] <root_> danke fr keine hilfe
[11:59] <cps1966> Dr_willis:  well sometings wrong with that file because none of the rest fails
[11:59] <Hamal_Dragon> is there a way to restore init?
[11:59] <LjL> !de
[11:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:59] <Jonty> I'm trying to use Compiz on Edgy, but the start-compiz script can't be found. What can I do?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:00] <Dr_willis> 'just say no' heh heh.
[12:00] <cobus> im also on edgy and new on linux
[12:00] <Hamal_Dragon> theres a way to restore init without reinstalling all the os?
[12:01] <cps1966> Dr_willis the file its asking for is only 21.3 MB but its looking for 22.3 Mb
[12:02] <Dr_willis> cps1966,  may be a bad file
[12:03] <cps1966> i've tried it many way with same results
[12:04] <Dr_willis> cps1966,  so you are doing a 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre' ? and it fails on sun-java-bin ?
[12:04] <cps1966> yes
[12:04] <RobertX> Help! I need help! When I login to Kubuntu, it says "Cannot start up kstartconfig or whatever
[12:04] <RobertX> I cannot log in!
[12:04] <cps1966> Fetched 22.3MB in 2m7s (175kB/s)
[12:04] <cps1966> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:04] <cps1966> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:04] <Jonty> pastebin what it says, or, remember it faithfully
[12:05] <cobus> people i was on suse for a while and decided to move to kubuntu
[12:05] <RobertX> I can't! i can't log in to use anything!
[12:05] <Dr_willis> !info sun-java5-jre
[12:05] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB
[12:05] <Dr_willis> !info sun-java5-bin
[12:05] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21811 kB, installed size 65084 kB
[12:05] <C-O-L-T> 	hello I have a bug with power management in dapper. When I close my laptop lid ubuntu shuts down my screen and when I reopen it I can not turn my screen on just with ctrl+alt+f7
[12:05] <cobus> on suse i used smart installer what willi use on kubuntu
[12:05] <Dr_willis> cps1966,  and you do have 'multiverse' enabled eh?
[12:05] <cps1966> yes
[12:05] <Dr_willis> cobus,  the apt-get system is used by ubuntu/kubuntu
[12:05] <Dr_willis> !synaptic
[12:05] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:05] <Jonty> cobus: apt-get (install|remove)
[12:05] <Dr_willis> !adept
[12:05] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:06] <Jonty> I'm trying to use Compiz on Edgy, but the start-compiz script can't be found. What can I do?
[12:06] <cobus> ok so how do i install VLC with this thing then
[12:06] <Jonty> sudo apt-get install vlc, perhaps?
[12:07] <Jonty> or kdesu synaptic, or go to it in the K-menu, and search for vlc for any related packages
[12:07] <jerp> I can't get into repositories to correct the situation.
[12:07] <Dr_willis> !info vlc
[12:07] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[12:07] <Jonty> jerp: what?
[12:07] <Dr_willis> cobus,  fire up a package manager you like.. and search/click/install.
[12:07] <Dr_willis> be sure the universe repository is enabled.
[12:08] <jerp> the apt-get won't let me load the build essentials
[12:08] <cobus> ok how do i enable it
[12:08] <Dr_willis> cobus,  synaptic and adept both have menu items to manage the repos.
[12:08] <arelisea> hi
[12:09] <jerp> I put the cd in and it reads from /cdrom/ rather than the live cd in the cdrom0
[12:09] <arelisea> somebody speak spanish?
[12:09] <arelisea> or german?
[12:09] <arelisea> i from spain
[12:09] <jerp> maybe I'll do a reinstall
[12:10] <Dr_willis> cobus,  if you use the add/remove rograms - icon. it has check box's for enabling them all. 'Unsupported' and "propitary"
[12:10] <Dr_willis> check them both.. search, install.
[12:10] <Dr_willis> be sure to select the 'any suite' also.. :)
[12:10] <cps1966> Dr_willis:  how can i get src and do it that way
[12:11] <Dr_willis> cps1966,  no idea there.. getting java going was a 10 sec thing on this install.
[12:11] <arelisea> how can i connect to unother server? "/server irc-pulsar2.com"?or?


[00:36] <kalikatz> i found this command to blank screeen "xset dpms force standby" can this be attached to the ctrl-alt-L that also locks the screen?
[01:50] <kalikatz> fixed:  created a .desktop to point to a bash scripts with "qdbus org.kde.screensaver /ScreenSaver Lock; sleep 5; xset dpms force standby" .  removed the ctrl-alt-L bind in global keyboard shortcuts and created a custom shortcut with same said keys to run said bash script :)   i feel the power, lol
[01:53] <kalikatz> according to my timestamp, that took 3hrs 20 min
 Hello! If I upgrade 18.04 to 18.10 is it true that I first need to disable or remove PPA's??
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> I believe it's better to disable them, yes
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> Though I vaguely remember from the last time I did it that the upgrade tool will disable them for you
[03:41] <fishfox> Hey take a look at this -- any ideas?  https://imgur.com/a/dPWl4at
[03:41] <fishfox> Window flits across the screen
[05:01] <valorie> Dragnslcr: I don't bother; the tool disables them for you
[05:02] <valorie> fishfox: that's in kubuntu?
[05:16] <fishfox> valorie: yes
[05:21] <valorie> oops, my reply got eaten
[05:21] <valorie> I've never seen that happen in Kubuntu before
[05:21] <fishfox> Weird eh?
[05:21] <valorie> very
[05:21] <valorie> looks annoying as hell
[05:21] <fishfox> It's just for that particular window type
[05:21] <fishfox> The entire rest of the system is fine
[05:21] <fishfox> And it doesn't happen on other Linux distros / Windows / macOS
[05:21] <fishfox> So confused
[05:24] <valorie> so it's either your VM software or what you are running inside it
[05:54] <jacky> tfw you run `do-release-upgrade` and it just works
[05:56] <jacky> some wonky stuff
[05:56] <jacky> geoclue seemed to want permissions but no longer working with redshift (for the indicator)
[06:01] <valorie> I just had to put in latlong again, but it instantly works
[06:01] <valorie> I guess I never had geoclue
[06:01] <jacky> yeah geoclue is _super_ handy if you're on the move
[06:01] <jacky> I'm _usually_ home (I work from there)
[06:01] <jacky> but I'd pick up and fly like once a month
[06:02] <jacky> actually geoclue could even change my current timezone for me if I figured out how to do that
[06:02]  * jacky will linger and set an alert if someone mentions it though
[06:02] <jacky> excellent release all in all!
[06:03] <valorie> I should try it for my travel laptop
[06:03] <valorie> thanks for mentioning it
[06:04] <jacky> https://i.imgur.com/MlLRqpW.png new feature in Latte Dock? (very nice!)
[06:04] <jacky> yeah lemme see if I can pull up its page
[06:04] <jacky> http://simgunz.org/projects/redshift-plasmoid/ (src: https://github.com/simgunz/redshift-plasmoid)
[06:06] <valorie> thanks, jacky
[06:06] <jacky> 👍
[06:07] <valorie> it will be nice when we can switch to wayland and use nightshift natively
[06:07] <valorie> until then, I like redshift
[06:09]  * jacky looks up nightshift
[06:09] <valorie> it's part of plasma
[06:10] <valorie> I think
[06:14] <jacky> hmm
[06:14] <jacky> I can't find info on it
[06:15] <valorie> it was being tested, but it was decided I think to postpone it
[06:15] <valorie> probably in the notes of the plasma team meetings
[06:15] <valorie> not so easy to search mail list archives though
[06:18] <jacky> gotcha
[06:23] <lordievader> Good morning
 @Dragnslcr, Ok, so can I just uncheck them is Software Sources then, and recheck after upgrade - no need to remove completely? Thanks.
 @jacky, Awsome! What version of Latte Dock? Where can I find it? Thanks!
[06:59] <jacky> this is latte-dock 0.8.1 in cosmic (18.10)
[06:59] <jacky> Anarchotoaist ^
 @jacky, Oh, ok. I just need to update from Bionic! 😃
[07:02] <jacky> it's possible that it exists in kubuntu-backports ppa
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:43] <diogenes_> Velizar Peshev, try to remove the previous save network connection (the SSID), reboot and try to connect again.
[12:43] <diogenes_> saved network*
[22:15] <valorie> hmmm, spotify
[22:15] <valorie> !spotify
[22:15] <valorie> thought not
[22:15] <valorie> I doubt that there are any free applications which can use spotify's apis
 there is a spotify snap
[22:42] <valorie> aha
[22:42] <valorie> so the person wasn't using discover then
 or not with the snap backend
[22:43] <jacky> anyone having issues with pulseaudio post upgrade?
[22:43] <jacky> I've tried reinstalling packages to no avail
[22:46] <valorie> sound seems to work great
[22:47] <valorie> dunno about pa in particular
[22:50] <valorie> I have noticed that systemd is using a LOT of CPU
[22:50] <valorie> half!
[22:55] <jacky> yeah the new overlord of the PC lol


[00:01] <wgrant> If it adds new functionality, why wouldn't you put the new version of the dependency in the older release as well?
[00:04] <ninix> that's not necessary a dependency that i support.. but it is in ubuntu.
[00:40] <poolie> jml: re bug 297902, *i* don't see options to set importance, status etc when filing a bzr bug
[00:41] <jml> poolie: on which project, I wonder.
[00:42] <poolie> yes i wondered about that too, so i tried it on bzr
[00:42] <poolie> i was testing on edge
[00:42] <poolie> maybe it's different on staging?
[00:42] <wgrant> I've been able to do it on edge.
[00:42] <poolie> !!
[00:43] <jml> poolie: https://devpad.canonical.com/~jml/advanced-form.png
[00:43] <jml> sorry about the password protection -- I need to memorize a public server for pushing screenshots to.
[00:44] <wgrant> Ubuntu One!
[00:44] <wgrant> Although I don't think that actually does public :(
[00:44] <jml> also, I haven't installed it yet.
[00:45] <james_w> wgrant: I think it's possible through the nautilus menu, though I haven't tried it
[00:45] <james_w> unless that's the old broken samba based sharing
[00:45] <lifeless> jml: paste.ubuntu.com
[00:45] <wgrant> james_w: That's Samba sharing.
[00:45] <lifeless> jml: oh, screenies. uhm
[00:45] <james_w> lifeless: uuencode?
[00:46] <lifeless> james_w: ugly
[00:46] <lifeless> flickr maybe
[00:46] <wgrant> I don't think U1 does Nautilus integration yet.
[00:46] <lifeless> U1 would work too
[00:46] <lifeless> wgrant: I'm fairly sure it does
[00:46] <james_w> wgrant: for sure it does
[00:46] <wgrant> lifeless: I can't see it anywhere.
[00:46]  * wgrant restarts Nautilus
[00:46] <poolie> jml: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26609824/2009-05-12-094353_1024x737_scrot.png
[00:47] <poolie> maybe it's implemented but buggy
[00:47] <james_w> wgrant: go to the directory, you get a banner
[00:47] <lifeless> jml: you can attach screenshots to lp bugs
[00:47] <jml> poolie: yeah, so that's something that I get on the bzr page
[00:47] <lifeless> jml: so open a bug; called 'jmls screenshots'.
[00:47] <wgrant> james_w: Looks like I needed to restart Nautilus.
[00:47] <james_w> ah
[00:47]  * lifeless admires the info leakage
[00:48] <jml> poolie: I don't know what the secret is.
[00:49] <wgrant> james_w: So you can do sharing through Nautilus.
[00:49] <james_w> wgrant: how?
[00:49] <wgrant> james_w: Right click, Share on Ubuntu One.
[00:50] <wgrant> It's not public sharing, though.
[00:50] <lifeless> poolie: there is an advanced filing form
[00:50] <poolie> lifeless: yes, this is it
[00:50] <poolie> it's unfortunately distinguishable from magic :)
[00:51] <wgrant> I definitely get the extra options on +filebug(-advanced) on edge.
[00:53] <poolie> ok
[00:53] <james_w> I don't get them for bzr though
[00:53] <poolie> i definitely don't
[00:53] <poolie> so there's some kind of bug
[00:54] <james_w> for projects I "own" I do
[00:55] <wgrant> I get them for Ubuntu, where I'm not the owner - just the bug supervisor and uploader.
[00:59] <james_w> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-storage-protocol
[00:59] <james_w> "1  branch owned by 7  people and 1  team,"
[00:59] <wgrant> There should be no branches; I filed that bug last need.
[00:59] <wgrant> Er.
[00:59] <wgrant> Last *night*.
[00:59] <james_w> well, I can see one branch link, but can't see the branch
[00:59] <wgrant> The stats are also precalculated, and a bug I filed about that message making no sense was Won't Fix'd IIRC.
[00:59] <james_w> but I don't see how that branch is owned by 7 people and 1 team
[00:59] <james_w> ah
[00:59] <james_w> thanks
[01:07]  * thumper coughs
[01:07] <thumper> they aren't pre calculated
[01:07] <thumper> they are just generated by branches you can't see :)
[01:07]  * thumper will get around to fixing it
[01:09] <wgrant> thumper: Oh, so there is actually no reason not to fix it. Good.
[02:16] <wgrant> Can a code person please look at bug #374865 fairly soon? It has vanished from edge now, but is still on staging.
[02:24] <spm> blech. forgot about staging. ta.
[02:25] <wgrant> spm: Ah, so that bug is known?
[02:26] <spm> wgrant: mis config, not bug.. :-(
[02:26] <wgrant> spm: Is that why I saw a bug about auditing privacy policy changes?
[02:27] <wgrant> i don't see how that isn't a bug, though - I can't see the branch, so it shouldn't be visible in listings.
[02:27] <spm> wgrant: I wouldn't like to hazard a guess... ;-)
[02:27] <spm> wgrant: not sure. I see what you mean tho. thumper is probably best placed to answer that tho.
[02:40] <thumper> wgrant: it was a bug that you couldn't see it
[02:40] <thumper> well...
[02:40] <thumper> kinda yes, kinda no
[02:40] <thumper> not a simple answer
[03:43] <ziroday> Hi, I seem to have an extremely flaky connection when using bzr to pull from launchpad and usually get around 5kB/s or so, anyway to speed it up?
[03:45] <spiv> ziroday: which version of bzr are you using, and are you pulling via http or bzr+ssh?
[03:46] <spiv> and which branch?
[03:46] <ziroday> spiv: using 1.13.1, branch is https://code.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk and I have no idea to the http or ssh :)
[03:47] <spiv> ziroday: what URL are you using to pull that branch?
[03:47] <ziroday> spiv: I just did bzr branch lp:breathe-icon-set
[03:47] <ziroday> so I presume that's http?
[03:47] <spiv> It depends on whether you have done "bzr launchpad-login YOUR_LP_ID"
[03:47] <ziroday> spiv: no I haven't yet
[03:48] <SamB> ziroday: didn't it show an expanded URL?
[03:48] <ziroday> SamB: I'll pastebin the whole terminal output
[03:48] <spiv> As SamB points out bzr will tell you the URL it expanded the lp URL to.
[03:48] <spiv> But if you run that command (and upload your SSH public key to Launchpad), then bzr can use bzr+ssh for lp URLs, which is generally much faster than HTTP.
[03:49] <ziroday> spiv: ah neat
[03:49] <SamB> if you don't upload that public key, though, it can just fail
[03:49] <ziroday> http://pastebin.com/m6ad04457 here's the terminal output
[03:49] <ziroday> right, upload ssh public key I shall, thanks SamB spiv!
[03:49] <SamB> until either you do, or you remove the login from whatever file in ~/.bazaar it got added to ...
[03:50] <ziroday> well its working currently, just horrifically slowly
[03:51] <SamB> hmm, how recently did you update bzr?
[03:52] <ziroday> SamB: err nevermind it just crashed
[03:52] <SamB> and that's another reason to update!
[03:53] <ziroday> SamB: this is a fresh jaunty install, should I be moving to some PPA?
[03:53] <ziroday> here's the traceback of the crash http://pastebin.com/m64c5c70a
[03:56] <spiv> ziroday: the 1.13.1 in Jaunty is ok, there is a PPA at https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive for more recent releases if you like
[03:56] <SamB> probably should ask a bout it in #bzr, and paste the exception line to the channel directly?
[03:57] <ziroday> SamB: shall do
[03:57] <spiv> ziroday: that error is typically a sign of disk corruption.
[03:57] <ziroday> spiv: mmm don't think I have disk corruption
[03:57] <ziroday> anyway no matter, I'll upgrade to latest bzr and add my ssh key
[03:57] <SamB> spiv: could launchpad have disk corruption ?
[03:58] <ziroday> or could the transfer have got garbled along the way?
[03:58] <spiv> SamB: no, but the person that originally pushed that branch might...
[03:58] <SamB> spiv: and launchpad wouldn't have balked at that?
[03:58] <spiv> SamB: it depends :)
[03:58] <spiv> I would probably expect it too.
[03:58] <spiv> s/too/to
[03:59] <spiv> It's also possible that there's a bzr bug, although so far I don't think that exception has ever turned out to be a bzr bug, but perhaps there's a first time...
[04:00] <ziroday> mmm, I have a feeling its something to do with the dodgy govt. internet
[04:00] <ziroday> plays havoc with all sorts of things
[04:00] <spiv> Over HTTP, it could also be due to a dodgy proxy I suppose.
[04:00] <ziroday> spiv: all connection go through a transparent govt. proxy here, it causes hiccups for everything
[04:01] <spiv> If so, that's another reason to use bzr+ssh
[04:01] <ziroday> yep
[04:03] <ziroday> anyway I'm using bzr+ssh I'll see how that fares
[04:03] <spiv> ziroday: FWIW branching that over bzr+ssh works ok for me.
[04:04] <spiv> (at well over 100kB/s overall)
[04:05] <SamB> bzr+ssh should be fine as long as the govt. doesn't MitM your SSH connections automatically ;-)
[04:05] <ziroday> spiv: I'm getting 20kB/s now, looks like bzr+ssh is the way to go
[04:05] <SamB> and, if it does, it should fail to authenticate at all
[04:05] <ziroday> SamB: I have no clue what our dear govt. does besides be a royal PITA
[04:07] <SamB> yes, but the thing about MitM and SSH is that it would presumably result in your public key not matching what launchpad sees from the MitM
[04:07] <SamB> (MitM stands for Man in the Middle, a type of cryptographic attack)
[04:07] <ziroday> SamB: yep, the key fingerprint's match up
[04:08] <ziroday> SamB: and I doubt they would go that far out of the way just to pick on launchpad
[04:08] <SamB> unless you're dealing with the NSA, you should be fine ;-)
[04:08] <ziroday> heh
[04:12] <daftykins> MitM isn't necessarily cryptographic
[04:12] <daftykins> enter; the ARP poisoning attack :)
[05:10] <lifeless> has the email interface changed?
[05:11] <thumper> lifeless: for what?
[05:11] <lifeless> bugs
[05:11] <lifeless> its rejecting
[05:11] <lifeless>  status confirmed
[05:11] <lifeless>  affects bzr
[05:11] <lifeless> and I can't see whats wrong there
[05:11] <thumper> lifeless: it should say what is wrong
[05:12] <thumper> can you pastebin me the full raw email text?
[05:12] <lifeless> it says noThe bug is reported in 0
[05:12] <lifeless> different contexts, and you have to specify which one by using the
[05:12] <lifeless> affects command.
[05:12] <lifeless> For example:
[05:12] <lifeless>     affects /distros/ubuntu
[05:13] <thumper> affects /bzr ?
[05:13] <thumper> although
[05:13] <thumper> I'm not sure
[05:13] <lifeless> at 10 am I sent in
[05:13] <lifeless>  affects launchpad-code
[05:13] <lifeless> and that worked
[05:13] <lifeless> whatever is wrong has changed in the last 4 hours
[05:13] <lifeless> spm: ^
[05:14] <thumper> lifeless: we don't change the mail processor
[05:14] <lifeless> s/don't/didn't/ ?
[05:14] <thumper> unless there is a cherry pick
[05:14] <thumper> spm: was there a cherry pick in the last four hours?
[05:14] <lifeless> thumper: right, thus me asking:)
[05:14] <thumper> I don't think there was
[07:02] <wgrant> lifeless: Would that not be because you need the 'affects' line before the other commands?
[07:11] <lifeless> wgrant: who knows
[07:11] <lifeless> wgrant: if it needs to be, then I imagine I'd have read docs to that affect somewhere
[07:12] <wgrant> lifeless: Given that you can alter multiple tasks, the statements need be executed in order, so it would make sense.
[07:13] <wgrant> Although some of the examples have them in the other order, maybe they're not on multi-task bugs.
[07:13] <wgrant> The example for the multi-task bug has the 'affects' command first.
[07:15] <lifeless> wgrant: this was a new bug
[07:16] <wgrant> lifeless: Oh.
[07:16] <wgrant> I missed the '0' in the error message.
[07:17] <lifeless> you may well be right
[07:17] <lifeless> regardless, bug open, should be easier to debug
[07:50] <cody-somerville> Can someone fix https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pike/7.8 ? It should be Pike/7.8 and not Pike/7.9
[07:50] <cody-somerville> err
[07:50] <cody-somerville> It should be Pike/7.8 and not pike/7.8
[07:55] <mwhudson> cody-somerville: done
[07:55] <cody-somerville> thanks
[08:04] <maxb> ooi, do the amd64 builders run on significantly slower hardware than the lpia ones?
[08:07] <wgrant> maxb: It looks like they're about the same (you can tell the approximate age of each machine using the naming scheme)
[08:08] <maxb> huh, I've been feeding the build queue sizes into rrdtool, and amd64 are noticable slower
[08:09] <wgrant> More stuff will fail on lpia, and I suppose lpia could be better optimised... but I really don't know.
[08:09] <maxb> (Also, "sandpaperfig" is part of a *scheme* ?!?! :-) )
[08:10] <wgrant> Yes. The fruits scheme, which seems to be latest.
[08:10] <wgrant> s/sc/t/, perhaps.
[08:11] <maxb> wow, it never even crossed my mind that it was a real plant, but google says it is
[08:11] <maxb> I thought it was a "jam two random words together" affair
[08:11] <wgrant> Heh, no.
[08:11] <wgrant> Although some of them look like it.
[08:12] <wgrant> Take the armel builders, for example.
[08:12] <wgrant> They're fruits.
[08:12] <maxb> the things you learn looking at the builders page... :-)
[08:16] <mwhudson> i think it goes penguins, antartic bases, elements, fruit
[08:18] <wgrant> That was my understanding.
[08:18] <wgrant> But penguins was very early on.
[08:18] <wgrant> (heh, gentoo.ubuntu.com still exists)
[08:25] <cody-somerville> mwhudson, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pike/7.9 is also broken but this time because 7.9 doesn't exist yet - it will in the future though. Should I mark it failing, invalid, etc.?
[08:25] <mwhudson> cody-somerville: suspend it for now?
[08:26] <cody-somerville> okay
[08:26] <mwhudson> i generally find that if i have no idea which scheme a machine name is from, it's an antartic base
[08:26] <wgrant> mwhudson: It's more often a fruit for me.
[08:27] <wgrant> They've got some nice obscure ones.
[08:27] <wgrant> Although I suppose I see quite a different set of machines.
[08:28] <cody-somerville> Most of mine are all berries
[08:28] <Nafallo> berries \☺/
[08:29] <wgrant> Nafallo: I prefer the armel-fruits.
[08:30] <Nafallo> wgrant: you just say that cause you miss podocarpus
[08:31] <cody-somerville> I wonder what scheme humboldt belongs to
[08:31] <Nafallo> I like the berries, mostly because I know why I made them berries :-P
[08:31] <wgrant> Nafallo: It's taking podocarpus a while to be fixed. Or has it been reassigned?
[08:31] <Nafallo> cody-somerville: most likely antarctic station.
[08:32] <Nafallo> wgrant: priorities
[08:32] <wgrant> cody-somerville: Penguin, I think.
[08:32] <cody-somerville> Yea
[08:32] <cody-somerville> Penguin
[08:32] <Nafallo> penguin :-)
[08:33] <mwhudson> i wouldn't be surprised if penguins and antartic bases overlapped in a couple of names
[08:33] <wgrant> Then the world ends.
[09:19] <natureshadow> g'morrow folks
[09:28] <natureshadow> I have version 0.7.42-3 of a package in a PPA on Launchpad, now I ampackaging for Debian's official release and have to begin with 0.7.42-1 there. Is there any way of removing 0.7.42-3 from the Launchpad PPA and restarting with 0.7.42-1 there as well?
[09:28] <bigjools> natureshadow: unfortunately not, but you could open a new PPA
[09:29] <natureshadow> bigjools: ok, let me see ...
[09:30] <natureshadow> bigjools: Well, can I somehow mark the old PPA as "obsolete" then or something?
[09:30] <natureshadow> https://launchpad.net/~twittare/+archive/ppa
[09:30] <natureshadow> This is the PPA
[09:30] <bigjools> natureshadow: Launchpad remembers all versions that you ever upload.  You can delete the package, but it will still not let you upload the same or lower versions of it.
[09:31] <natureshadow> But I can upload a lower version to a new PPA, right?
[09:31] <bigjools> your best bet is to open yourself another PPA
[09:31] <bigjools> yes
[09:31] <bigjools> you can have more than one PPA on the go, you don't need to make anything obsolete
[09:32] <natureshadow> bigjools: Well, I just meant I want to tell users that the old PPA is not to be used
[09:33] <bigjools> natureshadow: just delete the packages that you don't want people to use
[09:34] <natureshadow> ok
[10:02] <loic-m> Hi
[10:03] <djsiegel_> sabdfl keybuk seb128 pitti mvo et al: I just took the launchpad tour, and had one of those moments where I was floored by how cool Launchpad is. Thank you for creating something so awesome!
[10:03] <loic-m> I've got some troubles with a ppa build of mplayer (same source package as karmic) for karmic - the build stops because of missing dependencies like debhelper and other stuff that is in karmic already (I checked)
[10:03] <wgrant> loic-m: Build log?
[10:04] <loic-m> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26545774/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.mplayer_2%3A1.0~rc2-0ubuntu20~karmic1_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz
[10:04] <loic-m> my ppa is at https://launchpad.net/~loic-martin3/+archive/xvid
[10:04] <thumper> djsiegel_: I'm pleased you like it
[10:05] <thumper> djsiegel_: you can always praise<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:)
[10:05]  * thumper thinks anyway
[10:05] <djsiegel_> oh, good, to know,  thumper :)
[10:05] <wgrant> loic-m: E: Package liblzo-dev has no installation candidate
[10:05] <wgrant> loic-m: That's the error. Nothing about debhelper.
[10:05] <djsiegel_> thumper: so, if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all -- but if I do, email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:05] <djsiegel_> your nick is apropos
[10:06] <thumper> djsiegel_: any feedback is good feedback
[10:06] <thumper> djsiegel_: just like any press is good press
[10:07] <loic-m> Thanks. Why was there all those missing warnings like "debhelper: missing", and how comes the same package built fine for karmic?
[10:07] <sobbayi> hi all. i am having trouble signing the code of conduct. i keep getting an error of no data despite using the the registered credentials. does anyone have any light on this?
[10:08] <natureshadow> sobbayi: What command are you using to sign it?
[10:08] <wgrant> loic-m: Those were part of the dependency calculation process. It was working out what it already had, and what it needed to install.
[10:08] <wgrant> loic-m: Perhaps liblzo-dev has only recently disappeared from the archive.
[10:08] <thumper> djsiegel_: what did you mean by "your nick is apropos"?
[10:09] <djsiegel_> I was referring to Bambi's Thumper
[10:09] <loic-m> Thanks for the explanation. Actually, liblzo-dev is not listed as a dependency on packages.ubuntu.com for mplayer
[10:09] <sobbayi> am using pgp --clearsign filename
[10:09] <djsiegel_> thumper: who gives advice on doling praise/blame
[10:10] <sobbayi> the file is being signed alright t when i paste it onto launchpad i get the no data error
[10:10] <thumper> djsiegel_: I can dole blame if you like :)
[10:10] <thumper> djsiegel_: we don't have advice on it
[10:11] <natureshadow> sobbayi: I'm not so sure whether it supports "real" PGP ...
[10:11] <natureshadow> I'm afraid you have to use GnuPG
[10:11] <thumper> is the key on the keyserver?
[10:12] <sobbayi> natureshadow: yeah the key is on the keyserver
[10:12] <loic-m> wgrant, thanks, I've checked the .diff.gz on packages.ubuntu.com and liblzo-dev is listed as a dependency in the diff.gz, but not on the package page. I'll try to ask on #ubuntu-motu
[10:14] <sobbayi> natureshadow: okay let me try the whole process again using GnuPG and see what happens
[10:17] <sobbayi> natureshadow: okay seems i was already using gnupg and even tried out a windows version (yes! am that desperate) but still no luck
[10:17] <natureshadow> hmm
[10:17] <natureshadow> sobbayi: Can you nopaste me the data block?
[10:20] <sobbayi> natureshadow: i have noticed something strange... here is the 1st line of the signed file..
[10:20] <sobbayi> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
[10:20] <natureshadow> sobbayi: This is correct
[10:20] <sobbayi> is the PGP the actually correct or should it be GPG?
[10:21] <sobbayi> next line
[10:21] <sobbayi> Hash: SHA1
[10:21] <natureshadow> sobbayi: Paste it please
[10:21] <sobbayi> = Ubuntu Code of Conduct =
[10:21] <sobbayi> the whole file?
[10:21] <natureshadow> Not here of course ^^
[10:21] <natureshadow> http://www.nopaste.com
[10:23] <sobbayi> http://www.nopaste.com/p/aijuI4FHT
[10:25] <soren> sobbayi: You've got at stack of spurious linebreaks in there.
[10:25] <natureshadow> soren: Wanted t osay that as well ;)
[10:26] <soren> sobbayi: http://nopaste.com/p/asl02ExZS <-- here. I fixed it for you.
[10:27] <natureshadow> soren: Do you think you can do that without breaking the signature?
[10:27] <soren> natureshadow: I did.
[10:27] <soren> natureshadow: The odd linebreaks were added after signing. You can tell by the fact that the signature itself is messed up.
[10:28] <natureshadow> soren: Sure, but I cannot verify it.
[10:28] <soren> natureshadow: Why?
[10:28] <natureshadow> soren: Because the hash in the signature doesn't match the hash stated in the file
[10:28] <natureshadow> *hash algorithm
[10:28] <soren> natureshadow: Err... What?
[10:28] <natureshadow> soren: Only got the message in German ;)
[10:28] <lifeless> what what
[10:29] <natureshadow> gpg: WARNUNG: Widersprechende Hashverfahren in der signierten Nachricht
[10:29] <soren> natureshadow: http://www.nopaste.com/p/asl02ExZS/txt <-- Works.
[10:29] <natureshadow> soren: oops, yes it does
[10:29] <natureshadow> Doesn't when I remove th elinebreaks ;)
[10:29] <sobbayi> thanks guys. i didnt notice that... surprisingly my local copy does not have those line breaks. it has worked now. Yay!!
[10:29] <soren> natureshadow: Well... Don't :)
[10:30] <soren> lifeless: hm?
[10:30] <natureshadow> soren: \r\n :P ?
[10:30] <lifeless> soren: nothing, just a very old joke
[10:31] <soren> lifeless: I see
[10:31] <soren> (, he said, but he really didn't)
[11:51] <Goundy> Is it possible to create a branch for my launchpad project through bazaar ?
[11:52] <Goundy> Actually I've a mainline, then I did: bzr branch mainline newBranch
[11:52] <Goundy> Now I want this newBranch to be hosted on launchpad also
[11:53] <wgrant> Goundy: Of course. Launchpad would be pretty useless for distributed development otherwise. Just 'bzr push lp:~user/project/branch'
[11:53] <intellectronica> Goundy: yeah, just push your branch to lp:~your-username/project-name/branch-name
[11:53] <wgrant> Replace 'user' with a team name if you want multiple people to be able to access it.
[11:53] <Goundy> oh I pushed to lp:project :P
[11:53] <Goundy> Now I understand my mistake. Thank you very much !
[11:53] <wgrant> lp:project is just an alias to another branch.
[11:53] <Goundy> I see !
[11:55] <Goundy> oh nice it worked !
[11:55] <wgrant> Launchpad has a convenient habit of doing that.
[11:55] <Goundy> yeah I see that
[11:55] <Goundy> I need to read more about bazaar also
[11:56] <Goundy> oh btw, wgrant I've one last question
[11:56] <wgrant> https://help.launchpad.net/Code is a good start for everything related to code on Launchpad.
[11:56] <Goundy> thanks :)
[11:56] <Goundy> My branch "mainline" is owned by me at the moment, can I set the ownership for a team that I create for example ?
[11:57] <wgrant> You can (click the pencil on the branch page, and you'll see a dropdown at the top). Anybody in that team can then write to the branch.
[11:57] <Goundy> Awesome. wgrant thank you very much ;)
[11:57] <wgrant> Goundy: No problem.
[12:09]  * henninge lunches
[12:22] <ziroday> Hi, is there a way to migrate https://launchpad.net/~nick-hs to https://launchpad.net/~nickhs ?
[12:25] <wgrant> ziroday: Click 'Change details' at the top right of that page. There you can rename it.
[12:26] <wgrant> ziroday: Although that will cause problems with your PPA.
[12:26] <ziroday> wgrant: being blind, thanks
[12:26] <ziroday> wgrant: and my PPA has a zilch in it currently
[12:26] <wgrant> ziroday: That should be fine, then.
[12:27] <ziroday> wgrant: worked fantastically, thanks again
[12:28] <wgrant> ziroday: np
[12:37] <wgrant> bigjools: I just saw that you're working on bug #370636 now, and had another thought - can I also use the suite-override upload feature to upload to other pockets?
[12:38] <bigjools> wgrant: I'll check the code
[12:41] <bigjools> wgrant: no they get rejected
[12:43] <wgrant> bigjools: OK.
[12:43] <bigjools> wgrant: nice thought though :)
[12:45] <wgrant> bigjools: I hope to have similar success when I next go hunting for security vulnerabilities.
[12:46] <bigjools> wgrant: so do I!
[13:22] <fta> hi, once again, i'm hitting the limit of a ppa: "Estimated repository size: 10.0 GiB (99.57%) of 10.0 GiB", should I file a question?
[13:22] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[13:24] <fta> i started to do debs for karmic yesterday and i will add lpia today :P
[13:24] <wgrant> Wow. -testsuite-dbg is big.
[13:45] <fta> wgrant, indeed. i will probably drop it at some point as it's not that useful.
[14:21] <Goundy> Hi back.
[14:22] <Goundy> I created a new branch in launchpad => https://code.launchpad.net/louza
[14:22] <Goundy> So now I've two: mainline and miloud_work the problem is that the miloud_work one no longer appears there...
[14:22] <Goundy> How come?
[14:23] <wgrant> Goundy: See the status dropdown at the top? Select "Any status" rather than "Any active status".
[14:24] <wgrant> It looks like your branch was automatically marked as merged, as it contained no new revisions.
[14:24] <wgrant> You can change the status back.
[14:24] <Goundy> wgrant oh I see ^^
[14:24] <Goundy> thank you very much again :)
[14:24] <wgrant> Goundy: No problem, again!
[14:25] <Goundy> Awesome all's okay \o/
[14:25] <wgrant> Excellent.
[16:53] <fta> wgrant: fyi, I reopened https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/62386
[17:12] <vertix> i need some help with not being able to boot ubunto 8.10. Is there anyone online now?
[17:13] <maxb_> vertix: Try #ubuntu
[17:14] <vertix> well, this problem is prolly not exactly the ubundu issue. but who knows. I thought it is grub issue
[17:16] <Spads> vertix: Then you absolutely want #ubuntu.
[17:21] <vertix> well, it is almost impossble to do anything on #ubuntu cause it is so busy
[17:23] <Spads> vertix: well you could ask a question on https://answers.launchpad.net/
[17:24] <vertix> thanx, Spads, i guess i have to try that one also. I already spent a week not being able to boot and i am a develper, but did not work with linux lately
[17:30] <vertix> well, that #ubuntu chan is really useless with all the traffic. too bad
[17:30] <maxb_> I agree :-/
[17:30] <vertix> may be someone here knows about mounting the root file system
[17:30] <maxb_> But I still don't think you should abuse unrelated channels because of that
[17:30] <vertix> the filesystem is clean and it is referenced via coorect device file
[17:31] <vertix> kernel starts booting
[17:31] <vertix> and then this error [2.023879] VFS: Cannot open root device "sdb8"
[17:32] <vertix> i have two drives, IDE and SCSI, and i noticed they are being swapped around, but even when i tried to address it on both drives, still get the same problem
[17:32] <vertix> any idea?
[17:46] <fanno> morning/evning all depending on where in the world you all are =) i have been looking around, am i correct in understanding that launchpad is "only a hosting service", and that launchpad cant be installed on private servers ? or in any case i cant find anything about that toppic
[18:04] <maxb_> fanno: Correct. (Though *bits* of Launchpad become open source at the end of July)
[18:24] <fanno> maxb_: thankyou =) i cant wait untill i can integrate it with joomla =)
[20:27] <sale> for the last couple of days I keep getting timeout errors at translations.launchpad.net ...what's going on?
[20:28] <beuno> sale, do you have an OOPS id?
[20:28] <beuno> also, danilo_ may know more
[20:28] <sale> beuno: Error ID: OOPS-1228EA217
[20:28] <danilo_> sale: I'll take a look (there's a bug I am working on, though, but let me check if that's it first)
[20:30] <sale> danilo_: oh, yeah, now I remember I read something about that on the mailing list
[20:32] <danilo_> sale: that's it, it happens only on edge, please disable redirection using the button on https://launchpad.net/ and use that until this is fixed (I am landing a fix for this, and it should be on edge tomorrow or the day after)
[20:37] <sale> danilo_: everything seems to be OK now (even though using translations.launchpad.net few minutes ago resulted with some kind of connection error to Launchpad)
[20:37] <sale> danilo_: thank you for your time
[20:38] <danilo_> sale: the bug is not yet fixed, so you may hit more problems on translations.edge.launchpad.net, especially when saving, so I suggest you to not use edge until this rolls out (I'll email the list about it)
[22:28] <mirak> I have a version like that 0.99.5+cvs20070914-2.1~lenny2ubuntu2 , I want to rebuilt it and upload to ppa, how do I adapt the version number ?
[22:43] <mwhudson> mirak: i guess i would go for something like 0.99.5+cvs20070914-2.1~lenny2ubuntu3~ppa0
[22:44] <savvas> that's a train-version :)
[22:44] <savvas> as in really long :P
[22:45] <mwhudson> yeah
[22:46]  * SamB would suggest starting with a different base package version ;-)
[22:46] <maxb> I do not understand why people advise the "increment ubuntu revision and append ~ppa" method
[22:47] <SamB> maxb: what method would you suggest?
[22:47] <maxb> I find "do *not* increment the ubuntu revision, and append +ppa" to be much more reflective of what you're actually packaging
[22:47] <SamB> ah.
[22:47] <SamB> yeah.
[22:48] <maxb> I'm curious where mirak arrived at that version number, since the archive only has an ....ubuntu1 version of that
[22:48] <mwhudson> maxb: i guess that would make more sense indeed
[22:49] <SamB> yeah, ~ mostly seems to make sense for backports ...
[22:53] <wgrant> ~ also makes sense when what you are packaging is actually an early version of the next release in the primary archive.
[22:53] <williamd> Isnt launchpad a really broad topic, or is it for the webpage utilities?
[22:53] <SamB> yeah, and release-candidates and stuff
[22:53] <SamB> sure
[22:54] <wgrant> williamd: It's for the website itself. How is it really broad?
[22:54] <williamd> I use launchpad for Ubuntu realated bug stuff
[22:54] <williamd> Do all the distros use it?
[22:54] <wgrant> No, only Ubuntu and a couple of others.
[22:54] <SamB> no, this channel isn't about all projects in launchpad, just about what launchpad does ...
[22:54] <mirak> maxb: maybe it's from a backported version ?
[22:54] <wgrant> #ubuntu-bugs is good for discussing Ubuntu bugs.
[22:55] <wgrant> #ubuntu for Ubuntu support
[22:55] <wgrant> Here for Launchpad support.
[22:55] <maxb> mirak: I don't understand what you mean
[22:55] <SamB> maxb: what exactly was in the "..."?
[22:55] <maxb> Exactly the same except the last digit
[22:56] <mirak> maxb: I did a dch -iU before pasting here probably
[22:57] <maxb> For the sake of your users and co-developers, do try to keep your version numbers meaningful
[22:57] <mirak> maxb: I just copy pasted it don't bother with this number
[22:58] <mirak> though you remark is valid
[22:58] <mirak> but it's just a little error of pasting