[12:34] <intelikey> Acc\Deny no that's not in and of itself a bad thing.   have a look at  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html
[12:35] <intelikey> look at #24
[12:36] <Acc\Deny> ok
[12:38] <intelikey> Acc\Deny seeing that i can't use grub on this system because of it's weeknesses you should ask someone else about it.     all i would know to do is check the file system/s and if no errors there....  ahhh you got me.
[12:38] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: ok. thanx
[12:39] <tobre> Any ideas for my problem?
[12:40] <intelikey> tobre why not alsa ?
[12:40] <eilker> fdoving: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30961/
[12:40] <tobre> Alsa is not working.
[12:41] <tobre> In system settings I choose alsa, then I can't play test sound and all sound is not working.
[12:41] <eilker> !alsa > tobre
[12:41] <intelikey> cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:41] <Hirvinen> !alsa | tobre
[12:42] <ubotu> tobre: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:43] <tobre> cat /proc asound/cards says Intel
[12:44] <intelikey> tobre ok    alsamixer
[12:45] <intelikey> not muted not volume set to 0 ???    master and  pcm
[12:46] <eilker> fdoving: r u there ?
[12:46] <fdoving> eilker: i'll have to go eat, i'll look at it in a few min.
[12:47] <philip_> dopez: are you still looking to fix your menus?
[12:47] <eilker> fdoving: ok sir, here i am
[12:47] <tobre> OK, I'll google a little..
[12:48] <intelikey> tobre you did look at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  didn't you ?
[12:49] <tobre> Yes I did
[12:50] <eilker> intelikey: i am trying to play an avi file. just blue screen in kaffeine, do we need to install codecs etc ?
[12:53] <intelikey> eilker yep
[12:53] <intelikey> !codecs
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:54] <scheuri> hi all
[12:55] <qbit> anyone know about Xen support in edgy? - specifically if cpu has to be one of the new ones with new virtualization features, or can it even work on older such as a Sempron 2800+?
[12:55] <scheuri> anyone knowing of a good c64-emulator? and maybe even of a site to get some games?
[12:56] <intelikey> scheuri   apt-cache search $*     where $* in this case might be 'emulator'
[12:57] <scheuri> intelikey: aye, tried that actually...not much look so far...:)
[12:57] <eilker> intelikey: thxnx
[12:57] <scheuri> intelikey: but I just might found one....vice
[01:00] <crazy_bus_>      /msg nickserv register <dsowatcher101>
[01:01] <intelikey> morning Jucato
[01:01] <crazy_bus_>  /msg nickserv link <crazy_bus> <dsowatcher101>
[01:02] <Jucato> good morning/afternoon/evening!!! :)
[01:02] <Jucato> O_O
[01:04] <crazy_bus> I found out had to add the missing items back into my menu.  Does anyone else need to now how?
[01:04] <Jucato> ~/.config/menus
[01:04] <Jucato> ??
[01:06] <markelhas> i ppl
[01:06] <markelhas> can any one help with low speed in torrent client!?
[01:07] <crazy_bus> in adept manager install the files, menu and menu-xdg.  Then type sudo update-menu.  This will take all menu items, missing and not missing and put them into the Debian folder in the menu
[01:07] <age1172> anybody knows how to mount ntfs with ntfs3g at startup?
[01:07] <age1172> anybody knows how to mount ntfs drives with ntfs3g at startup?
[01:09] <crazy_bus> age1172: Did you follow the directions from here?: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g
[01:15] <age1172> crazy_bus: i will try
[01:15] <age1172> crazy_bus:  i tried before but failed
[01:17] <crazy_bus> age1172: After installing did you follow all of the directions under, 3. Configuration?
[01:18] <age1172> crazy_bus:yes but i surely did something wrong
[01:19] <age1172> because it refused to mount any drive then?
[01:21] <crazy_bus> What does it say in /etc/fstab ?
[01:21] <elias_> Free KDE in kubuntu!
[01:21] <Jucato> O_o
[01:22] <elias_> If I am hot for a minimal desktop there is no reason to choose kubuntu over ubuntu!
[01:22] <elias_> If I want a desktop that can satisfy a super user, I would choose KDE but not castrated kubuntu!
[01:23] <elias_> Therefore, free KDE in kubuntu! Let it offer me all the things it was meant to offer!
[01:24] <abattoir> elias_: what does KDE in kubuntu *not* offer?
[01:25] <tsdgeos> .hidden sucks completely and the one that invented it should be completely killed
[01:25] <abattoir> tsdgeos: :P
[01:26] <dany21> UTFG "kubuntu directories missing" and your done ... :)
[01:29] <Arafangion> Well, I haven't been able to get Xinerama again with ATI, damn general crappiness :(
[01:29] <Dzany> Hello!Can anybody tell me is there any chance to change location for downloading with aptitude?
[01:29] <age1172> crazy_bus:i'm trying right now
[01:29] <intelikey> Dzany ?
[01:29] <abattoir> Dzany: you want to change the mirrors?
[01:29] <Dzany> yes
[01:29] <abattoir> Dzany: for the repositories?
[01:30] <Dzany> yes yes
[01:30] <Dzany> i'm in serbia
[01:30] <abattoir> Dzany: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:30] <abattoir> Dzany: you'll see lines like 'http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com...'
[01:30] <abattoir> Dzany: switch the existing two letters in xx with the ones you want
[01:31] <intelikey> if the xx. is not there you can add.
[01:32] <Dzany> where can I find mirror locations list?
[01:32] <abattoir> !mirrors
[01:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:32] <abattoir> hmmm
[01:32] <dany21> is there any way to trigger a KDE-miniprogramm via a key-shortcut? (in my case i want to assign [win] +[d]  to show desktop)
[01:33] <Jucato> dany21: Ctrl+Alt+D is the default keyboard shortcut for that
[01:33] <abattoir> intelikey: uk most probably
[01:33] <Jucato> dany21: but you can set it to something different in System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:33] <Jucato> (if you're on Edgy)
[01:33] <intelikey> abattoir being in the US probably us.
[01:33] <dany21> wow...thx!! can it be changed?
[01:33] <dany21> oh..
[01:33] <Dzany> oki would like to do mirror from hungary
[01:34] <Dzany> because it goes fastest
[01:34] <Dzany> is it hu?
[01:34] <abattoir> Dzany: yup
[01:34] <Dzany> for xx
[01:34] <Dzany> ok .tnx a lot
[01:34] <dany21> havent found it there... whats the name for the action?
[01:34] <abattoir> intelikey: during installation, if you chose us, it would have added us.archive... but if you removed that it should point to gb
[01:35] <dany21> oh... forget it - found it,,, thx!!
[01:35] <hell666> how can I start program called Cluster manager??
[01:36] <intelikey> abattoir gb yeah.
[01:38] <wildchild> why all the sudden XP user can't get to my shared files: when he clicks on my folder to view it it says: u don't have permission to acces this file, contact network administrato
[01:38] <wildchild> r
[01:38] <Arafangion> wildchild: Perhaps he doesn't hae permission to access the files?
[01:39] <wildchild> Arafanogion: he could acces 2days before, and I didn't change anything in samab
[01:39] <wildchild> samba*
[01:39] <wildchild> :S
[01:39] <intelikey> -* Arafangion is now known as Mr.obvious *-   :)
[01:39] <Arafangion> wildchild: Then the issue is with either user/group accounts, or (more likely) incorrect umasks
[01:40] <Arafangion> intelikey: :)
[01:41] <wildchild> Arafanogion: I have set up for small workgroup..
[01:41] <wildchild> I change [cd-rom]  in to my share_name
[01:41] <wildchild> and make path, guest,
[01:42] <wildchild> than I created new user and new samba passwd
[01:42] <wildchild> and everything was working fine untill 2 days before
[01:45] <eilker> !Xshm
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Xshm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <fdoving> eilker: you can try, to edit /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config and set allowed_users=anybody just to test.
[01:45] <Jucato> !xchm | eilker
[01:45] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.9-3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 944 kB
[01:45] <Jucato> eilker: that one? ^^^
[01:45] <fdoving> kchmviewer - CHM viewer for KDE
[01:45] <fdoving> :)
[01:45] <Jucato> yes kchmviewer much better :P
[01:46] <Jucato> but aside from the K in the name, what does make it better? hehehe
[01:46] <fdoving> qt, maybe :)
[01:46] <Jucato> heheh
[01:46] <Dzany> I have one more question:ati driver doesen't support 16 color depth?
[01:46] <eilker> jucato: it was for caffeine:)
[01:47] <Jucato> eilker: ah
[01:47] <eilker> jucato: i got only blue screen
[01:47] <Jucato> trying to play what format?
[01:48] <eilker> jucato: now solved:) it was avi
[01:48] <Jucato> :)
[01:48] <Arafangion> wildchild: Can you access the files as the Unix user?
[01:49] <wildchild> yes
[01:50] <Dzany> Does anyone knows about ichat for windows,some russian network chat program?Is there subtitution for that?
[01:50] <eilker> fdoving: if u r free, this was the error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30961/
[01:50] <intelikey> as guest
[01:51] <Dzany> for linux of course :)
[01:51] <intelikey> Dzany xchat used to have a free windows port
[01:51] <intelikey> oh nm
[01:51] <Jucato> intelikey: it still has, but for 30 days only :P
[01:52] <Dzany> xchat u said
[01:52] <intelikey> hehhe i don't use any windows but i still have the "free" xchat
[01:52] <Dzany> i'll try
[01:52] <Dzany> it free that ichat
[01:52] <Dzany> for windows
[01:53] <Jucato> Dzany: Konversation (installed by default) is also an IRC program
[01:53] <Dzany> it's not realy irc program
[01:53] <Jucato> Dzany: what is it?
[01:53] <Dzany> it has main window for chat,and board in other window
[01:54] <Dzany> and u can send private message
[01:54] <Jucato> hm... the only iChat that shows up in Google is Apple's iChat...
[01:54] <intelikey> sounds like an irc client to me.
[01:54] <Dzany> yes I know about that Apple's ichat
[01:54] <intelikey> Dzany have you looked at gaim ?
[01:54] <Dzany> and it's not that
[01:55] <honest> Hello all, i've just plugged a NTFS drive into my kubuntu to dump it onto this computer, under disk management it can see it but i cant find it under the file manager
[01:55] <Dzany> and that's what confuses me
[01:55] <Jucato> Dzany: um... if you have a link to the webpage of that program, maybe we could understand better..
[01:55] <honest> does anyone know how i can mount it or something?
[01:55] <Arafangion> wildchild: What do the logfiles say? (/var/log/smbd and /var/log/nmbd thingies, I assume)
[01:55] <Jucato> !ntfs | honest
[01:55] <ubotu> honest: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:55] <Dzany> ok.in a half an our i'll be back
[01:55] <Dzany> :)
[01:55] <honest> Jucato: cheers, shall look now : )
[01:56] <intelikey> and the other half theres  :)
[01:58] <age1172> anyone can help me with ntfs3g?
[01:58] <intelikey> !ntfs3g
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <wildchild> Arafangion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30975/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30976/
[02:00] <wildchild> if ur still there
[02:00] <snoopy1alpha> hello there
[02:00] <age1172> i want to mount ntfs drives on linux using ntfs-3g
[02:01] <honest> Jucato: i want to format the drive to make it a linux paritition, is there a command for that?
[02:01] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[02:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[02:01] <Jucato> honest: um.. QtParted or GParted (don't know the command line equivalents)
[02:01] <snoopy1alpha> I hope someone can help me, I am trying to install Kubuntu onto an older computer and he does not load the desktop (I can see the taskbar, but he is loading since one hour and nothing is happening)
[02:01] <honest> Jucato: cheers : )
[02:02] <intelikey> honest cfdisk /dev/<disk-id> && mke2fs -cj /dev/<partition-id>
[02:03] <snoopy1alpha> could it help to create a swap-partition before booting the install-cd?
[02:03] <oslo>  bootsplash problem: http://www.cannacola.free.fr/IMG_0011.JPG
[02:03] <honest> intelikey: and that will turn it into a linux partition?
[02:04] <intelikey> that's what you asked for.
[02:04] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: can't you just select kmenu -> system -> install ? why do you -need- the desktop?
[02:04] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: there is no kmenu
[02:04] <honest> intelikey: lol ok soz
[02:04] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: I see a naked taskbar
[02:04] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: ah.. interessting. how much RAM?
[02:04] <snoopy1alpha> 128 MB
[02:04] <snoopy1alpha> thats why I asked for the swap
[02:05] <fdoving> i'm not sure.
[02:05] <intelikey> honest you change the partition type and then make a file system on the partition.
[02:05] <Dzany> I found homepage for that chat program.We r using it in our local wireless network comunity.It is: http://vnalex.tripod.com/en/index.htm
[02:05] <honest> "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'"
[02:05] <honest> intelikey: any idea what that means?
[02:05] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: I would boot a knoppix and do the partitioning manually but the question is, will the install-cd use the swap-partiton?
[02:06] <intelikey> honest yes you typed <blah>  rather than inturpreting it.
[02:06] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: or is there a console-based install-script?
[02:06] <intelikey> honest interpret <***>
[02:06] <intelikey> if you don't know the disk-id  use   fdisk -l
[02:07] <intelikey> honest also you have to be root to do any of that.
[02:07] <intelikey> !sudo
[02:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:07] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: not on that cd, you need the other cd image, the alternate, to have that.
[02:07] <intelikey> fdisk -l    only lists and exits...
[02:08] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: not sure about the swap space.
[02:09] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: okay thanks, then I will try the manual partitioning with knoppix, hoping kubuntu will use the swap I will create. If this fails, I will try the alternate Image
[02:09] <Dzany> I found homepage for that chat program.We r using it in our local wireless network comunity.It is: http://vnalex.tripod.com/en/index.htm . Anyone who knows about some subtitution that work on linux?
[02:09] <markc> on dapper, if I have a nvidia-glx w/ v1.0.8776 ... what kernel do I need  ?
[02:11] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: i've checked this, and yes, it will if they are formatted as swap space, (mkswap /dev/partition).
[02:12] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: thanks alot
[02:12] <ermak> why rmmod can't remove module?
[02:12] <ermak> sudo rmmod saa7134_alsa
[02:12] <ermak> ERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use
[02:12] <fdoving> ermak: it's in use.
[02:12] <ermak> what module uses it?
[02:12] <Arafangion> wildchild: Your "guest" configuration appears to be incorrect.
[02:12] <markc> or, where is there info about getting nvidia working with dapper ?
[02:12] <Arafangion> wildchild: Show your smb.conf file.
[02:12] <fdoving> !nvidia | markc
[02:12] <ubotu> markc: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:13] <markc> thanks
[02:13] <Arafangion> wildchild: I think there's a configuration checker in samba, use that. testparm I think it's called.
[02:13] <ermak> what module is using saa7134_alsa? how can I know?
[02:14] <fdoving> ermak: if it doesn't tell you, i don't know if you can.
[02:14] <octan> thing:x:number:name1,name2,name3 and so on
[02:14] <octan> erm
[02:14] <octan> sry
[02:15] <ermak> fdoving: and is that possible to reload module with different parameters?
[02:15] <fdoving> ermak: hmm.. not without removing it, afaik.
[02:15] <fdoving> ermak: you can try to force its removal, 'rmmod -f module'
[02:15] <fdoving> ermak: it's dangerous though.
[02:16] <ermak> fdoving: ok, i ll try this...
[02:16] <fdoving> ermak: there is also -w, 'man rmmod' for more info.
[02:17] <ermak> fdoving: now it tells: ERROR: Removing 'saa7134_alsa': Resource temporarily unavailable
[02:17] <wildchild> Arafangion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30977/
[02:19] <markc> re: nvidia... I've followed that howto, installed restricted drivers and nvidia-glx but I am getting an API mismatch error, kernel module is v1.0.7174 but the x module is v1.0.8776 ... can anyone elaborate on  what kernel  goes with nvidia-glx 1.0.8776 (for dapper) ?
[02:20] <wildchild> Arafangion: testparm -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30978/
[02:20] <Arafangion> wildchild: Try replacing the guest = ok lines with guest ok = yes
[02:20] <ermak> fdoving: with -w it's just waiting for smth.... so the only way is to configure modprobe.d and reboot?
[02:20] <fdoving> ermak: that's probably the easiest solution.
[02:21] <markc> anyone still using dapper with a nvidia card ?
[02:22] <ermak> fdoving: by the way there was no problem with removing this module in dapper....
[02:22] <gnomefreak> markc: yes on one of my boxes why?
[02:22] <markc> gnomefreak:  what kernel  version are you using on that box ?
[02:23] <vieira_> ppl
[02:23] <gnomefreak> 2.6.15- i cant remember the last number off hand
[02:23] <vieira_> any one ? need help config torrent client
[02:23] <age1172> when i tried to mount my ntfs drives with ntfs-3g using this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[02:23] <markc> gnomefreak: heh... that's the bit I need
[02:23] <gnomefreak> 33 i think but dont hold me to that.
[02:23] <Dzany> what is subtitution for dc++?
[02:23] <vieira_> simple can connect in kubuntu, same config in the router work for windows
[02:24] <markc> anyone else running dapper with a nvidia card ?
[02:24] <vieira_> i'm missing somethig?!?!?!?
[02:24] <age1172> and tried the mount -a command it gave me the following errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30974/
[02:24] <age1172> any ideas ?
[02:25] <vieira_> is any problem with kubuntu and tour linksys?
[02:25] <vieira_> *router
[02:25] <gnomefreak> markc: either way unless your kernel and l-r-m dont match its not gonna matter about version of kernel
[02:26] <honest> I've just changed the partition to an ext3
[02:26] <vieira_> no ideias?!
[02:26] <honest> but under media it's just showing as a folder and not a drive and i can't use it as a drive
[02:27] <age1172> i am on edgy
[02:27] <Arafangion> wildchild: Try replacing the guest = ok lines with guest ok = yes
[02:27] <age1172> when i tried to mount my ntfs drives with ntfs-3g using this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[02:27] <thuan> when I try to install kubuntu edgy I can continue after select a root partition
[02:27] <thuan> can't
[02:27] <vieira_> :(
[02:27] <age1172> when i tried to mount my ntfs drives with ntfs-3g using this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[02:28] <gnomefreak> age1172: ntfs-3g is not supported by ubuntu nor is it safe
[02:28] <wildchild> Arafangion: did it but it's still the same not about accesing the files :S
[02:28] <markc> gnomefreak: I have a fresh dapper installation... I've added univers/multiverse updated and upgraded but for some reason the  nvidia-glx package is a mismatch to whatever kernel module I have... I'm just trying to determine what kernel I need to match up with the current nvidia-glx package (if anyone knows).. perhaps  my local repo is out of date or something
[02:28] <wildchild> Arafangion: I did it*
[02:28] <age1172> i am on kubuntu edgy
[02:28] <Arafangion> wildchild: So, not working?
[02:29] <age1172> i tried the mount -a command it gave me the following errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30974/
[02:29] <wildchild> Arafangion: it's not working
[02:29] <gnomefreak> markc: did you add any unofficial repos for beryl or nvidia 9xxx series drivers
[02:29] <Arafangion> wildchild: There's something wrong with the guest account.
[02:29] <wildchild> hm
[02:29] <markc> gnomefreak: not yet, fesh install
[02:29] <gnomefreak> age1172: there is no support here for ntfs-3g try the forums
[02:29] <Arafangion> wildchild: Guest parameter, rather.
[02:29] <gnomefreak> markc: what version is it asking for?
[02:29] <wildchild> Arafangion: what do u suggest :P
[02:30] <age1172> then what can i do to have full access to ntfs drives
[02:30] <gnomefreak> age1172: ubuntu doesnt support writing to ntfs because its unsafe and very dangerous
[02:30] <markc> gnomefreak: kernel v is 1.0.7174 and X v is 1.0.8776
[02:30] <Arafangion> wildchild: It's been a long time since I've had to deal with this ;)  Jut a moment.
[02:31] <eka> OCTAN!
[02:31] <wildchild> Arafangion: np I have time :)
[02:31] <octan> EKA
[02:31] <Arafangion> wildchild: You haven't specified a guest user.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> markc: make sure you are up-to-date. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:31] <eka> TO CITY HALL WE RIDE!
[02:31] <eka> GRAB YOUR AXE!
[02:31] <thuan> Even after select a partition as / and one as swap I can't continue kubuntu setup say I haven't selected a / partion yet, any idea? Kubuntu 6.10
[02:31] <markc> gnomefreak: done that several  times but  I'll  do it again
[02:31] <gnomefreak> eka: please join #kubuntu-offtopic to continue that
[02:32] <oslo> bootsplash problem: http://www.cannacola.free.fr/IMG_0011.JPG only a boot, not at shutdown ...
[02:32] <eka> gaaahhhh damnit.
[02:32] <Arafangion> wildchild: Actually, apparently it's got a default "nobody".
[02:32] <gnomefreak> markc: do you have linux-restricted-modules for your kernel i nstalled and what is the version
[02:32] <wildchild> hm
[02:32] <wildchild> Arafangion:  but I made user
[02:32] <wildchild> just didn't put it in smb.conf
[02:32] <wildchild> couse there I made it public
[02:33] <wildchild> but actually only "new" that I've created it and make him smb pass can acces
[02:33] <Arafangion> wildchild: You haven't got a security = user either.
[02:33] <wildchild> :S
[02:33] <markc> gnomefreak:  got 2.6.15-23-386 and 2.6.15-23-386, currently trying the  23 one
[02:33] <gnomefreak> markc: make sure they match the kernel you are booted to
[02:33] <markc> gnomefreak:  got 2.6.15-23-386 and 2.6.15-27-386, currently trying the  23 one
[02:33] <gnomefreak> markc: i know 23 is not the latest kernel
[02:34] <markc> gnomefreak:  I was just booted on the 27 one with the same result, hence trying the 23 one
[02:34] <wildchild> Arafangion: so I must add: security = user
[02:35] <gnomefreak> markc: what version of linux-restricted-modules do you have installed?
[02:35] <markc> gnomefreak:  I'll try apt-get install linux-686 ... and see what happens
[02:35] <gnomefreak> thats what you need for nvidia to work.
[02:35] <markc> gnomefreak:  I have  both the 23 and 27  restricted packjages onboard
[02:35] <honest> I've changed an NTFS drive into EXT3 but under media it doesnt show the drive, i did this using QTparted
[02:36] <gnomefreak> markc: boot your latest kernel. than run sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[02:36] <gnomefreak> markc: it should fix it for you
[02:36] <Arafangion> wildchild: I generally start with the minimum set of "stuff", testparm it, make sure that it's /perfect/, then add the next bit.
[02:37] <honest> i can only think it's not mounted or something
[02:37] <Arafangion> wildchild: And generally, it's often a good idea to be explicit.  Don't trust defaults ;)
[02:37] <wildchild> Arafangion: u saw my testparm
[02:38] <markc> gnomefreak: installing "linux-686" is getting me 2.6.15-27-686 and the equiv restricted module (I have the same 386 packages anyway)
[02:38] <Arafangion> wildchild: Yeah, it's not good.
[02:38] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set up fix ip for my machine in a subnetwork?
[02:39] <markc> rebooting
[02:39] <MetaMorfoziS> in lan, or how it named
[02:39] <gnomefreak> markc: use the command i gave you on whatever kernel you want it will install the right packages. if you check the version of nvidia-kernel im betting its not matching the drivers
[02:40] <wildchild> after I add security: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30981/
[02:40] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:40] <wildchild> Arafangion
[02:40] <wildchild> 2 lines above:
[02:42] <markc> gnomefreak: I think I might have adud dapper install anyway... I don't get a login prompt, it goes strsight to a root shell (I've installed dapper dozens of times, never had this kind of trouble before)
[02:43] <markc> gnomefreak: I think I might have adud dapper install anyway... I don't get a login prompt, it goes strsight to a root shell (I've installed dapper dozens of times, never had this kind of trouble before)
[02:43] <Arafangion> wildchild: As it says, it says that the security option is a global option, but you've placed it in the services.
[02:43] <wildchild> yes
[02:43] <markc> woops, wrong keyboard
[02:43] <Arafangion> wildchild: Take out the 3 or so globals, and just mention it once before you mention any of the shares.
[02:44] <snoopy1alpha> will a bootable cd-iso work if I burn it onto a dvd ?
[02:45] <snoopy1alpha> ah damn, just forget my question
[02:45] <honest> lol.. how the hell do i mount this drive?
[02:45] <snoopy1alpha> the computer I want to boot it on does not have a dvd drive
[02:45] <wildchild> Arafangion: and with 3 or so globals u mean: passdb backend = tdbsam
[02:46] <Arafangion> wildchild: No, that was actually a typo (I'm tireD!), I meant the fact that you'd mentioned the security thingy three times, in the shares, rather than once at the top.
[02:46] <markc> bah... I am using  kernel 2.6.15-27-686 w/ matching restricted package and I  still get an  API mismatch for  nvidia-glx...  I'll have to install archlinux or gentoo or something
[02:46] <Arafangion> wildchild: You can't pretend that it's teh same as a windows system, per-share security is rather difficult on linux.
[02:47] <wildchild> Arafangion: I know it's difficult
[02:47] <wildchild> Arafangion: why do u mean I am bugging ppl around :P
[02:48] <Arafangion> wildchild: :)
[02:48] <Bubba_Gump> amaroK - compatible with flac ?
[02:48] <eka> ugh wtfomgbqq this tea is so strong and gross
[02:48] <wildchild> Arafangion: security is global! ?
[02:48] <Arafangion> eka: Which tea?
[02:48] <Arafangion> wildchild: YES
[02:48] <wildchild> :>
[02:48] <eka> it's a white/green mix
[02:48] <wildchild> damn I a, slow
[02:48] <Bubba_Gump> eka: brew a fresh cup
[02:49] <eka> this is fresh!
[02:49] <eka> has no sugar in it though
[02:49] <Bubba_Gump> eka: :D
[02:49] <eka> but sugar in green tea is bleh
[02:49] <Bubba_Gump> eka: as an Englishman i take my tea very seriously :D
[02:49] <eka> haha
[02:49] <eka> ;)
[02:49] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[02:49] <eka> what kind of tea do you suggest for a newcomer like me?
[02:50] <Arafangion> eka: White/green?  (Dairy allergy :( )
[02:52] <Bubba_Gump> http://www.odie.org/chai/whatisit.html#
[02:52] <eka> i can't believe i made this channel into a tea oriented channel
[02:52] <Dzany> :D
[02:52] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[02:52] <eka> hmmm
[02:52] <eka> so chai, good with honey?
[02:52] <daghenning> hey. when I play dvds in kaffeine it flickers in full screen mode. what can I do?
[02:52] <Arafangion> eka: Yes.
[02:53] <Bubba_Gump> eka: yeah :)
[02:53] <eka> mmk mmk
[02:53] <eka> what other kinds of teas are there?
[02:53] <Arafangion> eka: And there's just as many chai's as there are teas :)
[02:53] <Dzany> i like tea with honey lemon in it
[02:53] <Bubba_Gump> eka: loadsa teas
[02:53] <Dzany> *honey and lemon
[02:53] <eka> i want a complete list ;)
[02:53] <Arafangion> eka: Impossible.
[02:53] <eka> lamezors.
[02:53] <Bubba_Gump> eka: try peppermint ;)
[02:53] <Arafangion> eka: The teashop I go to has a long list that would fit on several pages, I'm sure.
[02:54] <eka> peppermint?
[02:54] <eka> that sounds gross
[02:54] <eka> mint in a drink, no dice!
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> Arafangion: try a different video output ? (be in the xine options) - If you are using onboard video there may be nothing you can do
[02:54] <Bubba_Gump> eka: it's a very nice tea
[02:54] <Arafangion> eka: My sister likes "Autumn Spice".
[02:54] <markc> in my sources.list I have dapper main restricted universe and multiverse, and each of those for dapper dapper-backports dapper-updates dapper-security ... am I missing something ?
[02:54] <eka> ara, i'm not a chick x.x
[02:54] <Arafangion> h3sp4wn: Not me :)
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> daghenning: ^^
[02:54] <Dzany> you have very strange names of tea
[02:54] <Arafangion> Dzany: We have very strange teas :)
[02:55] <eka> bubba
[02:55] <Dzany> we too :)
[02:55] <eka> what kind are you going to make?
[02:55] <Dzany> but they have use
[02:55] <Arafangion> Dzany: One of the teas I've drunk had ginger and orange rind in it :)
[02:55] <Dzany> in medicine
[02:55] <Dzany> most
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> Arafangion: Sorry just woke up (not enough caffeine yet) - java lava works best
[02:55] <Dzany> and strange ideas of tea
[02:55] <Dzany> :D
[02:55] <eka> coffee, so gross, wow
[02:56] <Bubba_Gump> eka: i've some nice black tea, and i'll put a hint of milk in, and two sugars :)
[02:56] <Arafangion> eka: A _good_ coffee is actually very nice.
[02:56] <eka> nice nice
[02:56] <Bubba_Gump> eka: and biscuits for dunking :D
[02:56] <Arafangion> eka: But... it's hard to get it _good_.
[02:56] <Dzany> of course
[02:56] <eka> haha you englishmen are hardcore when it comes to tea
[02:56] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[02:56] <Dzany> lol
[02:57] <eka> australian eh?
[02:57] <Dzany> I'm Serbian
[02:57] <Dzany> and i prefer it all  lol
[02:57] <eka> well then lets put anotha shrimp on the barb-e ;o
[02:57] <eka> aye?
[02:57] <eka> duuuude - did president push ban vegemite from the US?
[02:57] <Arafangion> eka: Shrimp? Pah.
[02:58] <Dzany> Have u been to Exit.I know that a lot of Englishmans were here
[02:58] <eka> i heard a rumor.
[02:58] <Arafangion> eka: We call them PRAWNS
[02:58] <eka> haha
[02:58] <eka> really?
[02:58] <eka> nice, nice
[02:58] <Arafangion> eka: And yeah, they're great on the barbie :)
[02:58] <vyoman> kubuntu update from dapper to edgy failed, hangs on startup screen, using the konsole apt-get I get a list of packages not installed
[02:59] <Arafangion> eka: Though, most aussies are remarkably fussy with them, almost none even realise that the shell is edible.
[02:59] <eka> rofl
[02:59] <vyoman> any idea what to do next, i thought upgrading would be easy
[02:59] <markc> heh, I have never had a barbecued prawn (I'm an aussie too)
[02:59] <eka> crazy, ara
[02:59] <eka> you eat the whole shell o.o?
[03:00] <Arafangion> eka: The japanese do.
[03:00] <eka> you're not japanese ;D
[03:01] <Arafangion> eka: Yes, if it's just my family around, I'll eat the whole thing - legs are my favorite.
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> in lan, or how it named
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set up fix ip for my machine in a subnetwork?
[03:01] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: do you boot into KDE GUI?
[03:01] <Arafangion> eka: Heads aren't too bad, though.
[03:02] <eka> . . .
[03:02] <eka> with the brains and everything?
[03:02] <Arafangion> eka: In japan, however, the heads are considered the best part.
[03:02] <Arafangion> Yeah, whole :)
[03:02] <eka> ewww
[03:02] <Bubba_Gump> shrimp is a really food
[03:02] <tha1> hey guys
[03:02] <fdoving> #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:02] <Bubba_Gump> the whole shrimp :P
[03:02] <Arafangion> Bubba_Gump: Do they really eat the raw, though?
[03:03] <Bubba_Gump> Arafangion: the raw ?
[03:03] <tha1> kl
[03:03] <eka> he's speakin aussie on us ;D!
[03:03] <Arafangion> Bubba_Gump: Them :)
[03:03] <Arafangion> eka: NanoImnot!
[03:03] <Bubba_Gump> heh :D
[03:03] <eka> ;)
[03:04] <Dzany> ah,lucky u,when u can travel and see all that noncens :D
[03:04] <vyoman> yes ideally we boot into the GUI
[03:04] <tha1> sorry, i didn't mean to write that
[03:04] <Arafangion> Dzany: I don't travel :(
[03:04] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: does your computer boot into the GUI at the moment?
[03:04] <eka> bubba, how's the tea?
[03:04] <Dzany> why,when u can??
[03:04] <vyoman> no it hangs on the blue screen
[03:04] <tha1>  i just need help to swetup my wireless card
[03:04] <Bubba_Gump> eka: it's a really nice cup :)
[03:04] <vyoman> the screen before the login
[03:05] <tha1> can you guys help me out?
[03:05] <snoopy1alpha> bluescreen in linux?
[03:05] <Arafangion> Dzany: Just haven't had the opportunity.
[03:05] <vyoman> blue or grey or purple screen
[03:05] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: have you the option for downloading the edgy live cd?
[03:05] <vyoman> no
[03:05] <Bubba_Gump> snoopy1alpha: the screen before the password bit
[03:05] <markc> tha1: do you know what kind of chipset is in the wireless device ?
[03:05] <snoopy1alpha> I know ;-)
[03:05] <Bubba_Gump> :P
[03:06] <vyoman> i need to install the missing packages the upgrade failed to install X
[03:06] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: have you ran apt-get upgrade ?
[03:06] <tha1>  i have a SpeedTouch 121g wireless USB card
[03:06] <tha1> i suppose i'm gonna need ndiswrapper
[03:06] <Bubba_Gump> !wifi
[03:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:06] <vyoman> running apt-get dist-update -f doesn't do anything they same list of packages not installed is listed
[03:06] <markc> tha1: it might use the  ra2570  module, worth a try
[03:07] <vyoman> i am now running apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:08] <vyoman> and the packages are being installed, what is wrong with apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:08] <markc> tha1: try "modprobe zd1201"
[03:08] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: my box went down after sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:08] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: would only load grub
[03:09] <vyoman> gosh - i didn't know there are problems coming from dapper to edgy
[03:09] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: i had a live disc handy but i'm checking your problem out :)
[03:09] <tha1> markc: it says this:
[03:09] <tha1> FATAL: Error inserting zd1201 (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/net/zd1201.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:09] <markc> tha1: "sudo modprobe zd1201"
[03:10] <vyoman> i still get a list of packages not being updated , mostly phython stuff
[03:10] <tha1> markc: nothing appeared O_o
[03:10] <vyoman> all the rest is installed now after using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[03:11] <vyoman> this should not happend (cry!!!)
[03:11] <markc> tha1: then ifconfig -a, take note of devices, plug in usb dongle, then ifconfig -a... and see if there is  an extra net device
[03:11] <mnp> has anyone experience with a t43p and hibernate?
[03:13] <vyoman> any APT-GET wizard know how to force package install, the -f option doesn't do anything...
[03:13] <eka> YOU BROKE THE RULES
[03:14] <markc> vyoman:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall package ?
[03:14] <eka> NOW I PULL OUT ALL YOUR PUBIC HAAAAAAAIR
[03:14] <tha1> markc: no,there is no extra device
[03:14] <tha1> i can't seem to install ndiswrapper through Adept
[03:15] <markc> tha1: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages (and pull out and plug back in the usb dongle)
[03:15] <apokryphos> eka: language please :)
[03:15] <tha1> he doesn't find the package, and doesn't give me the option to review and/or change the repos
[03:15] <eka> no pubic x.x?
[03:15] <apokryphos> there's #kubuntu-offtopic for all other related chat
[03:15] <eka> roger.
[03:16] <Arafangion> apokryphos: Actually, I think that some topics are offtopic even in there.
[03:16] <apokryphos> well, of course. But for general chatter, non-support related, we have that channel.
[03:17] <apokryphos> That doesn't mean profanity (or similar bad language) is generally accepted in there, like most *ubuntu* channels
[03:17] <Dzany> now problem: I have runed that ichat thru wine,and now,smiles r very slow,and text on tabs is like chinesse... Any solution?
[03:17] <tha1> markc: he detects the USB dongle being connected and disconnected
[03:17] <Arafangion> apokryphos: Haha :)
[03:17] <Arafangion> apokryphos: I'm a Debian guy myself.
[03:17] <markc> tha1: does "sudo iwconfig" show anything when it's plugged in ?
[03:18] <tha1> sudol iwconfig
[03:18] <eka> i heard gentoo was the win
[03:18] <apokryphos> Arafangion: ah, well welcome; things are a little different here ;-)
[03:18] <Arafangion> apokryphos: I've noticed :( *sniff*
[03:18] <tha1> nop, he doesn't show me any wireless extensions
[03:18] <Arafangion> Yikes, 1am again!  G'night.
[03:19] <eka> it's 6:19am here
[03:19] <eka> x.x
[03:19] <markc> tha1: I've got a repotec (ralink) usb wireless dongle and it only needs the zd1201 kernel module to be loaded... I've never used ndiswrapper, can't help you with that
[03:20] <Arafangion> apokryphos: I just wish that the Debian guys realised that a _desktop_ has different needs :)
[03:20] <Dzany> how can I setup wine?
[03:20] <Arafangion> Dzany: winecfg
[03:20] <tha1> can someone help me with the Adept part?
[03:20] <markc> tha1: you'll probably have to read that docs/howto link someone posted
[03:20] <snoopy1alpha> how do I disable the suspend2ram-feature when closing the notebook-lid?
[03:21] <snoopy1alpha> I cand rewake it whenever I did it
[03:21] <snoopy1alpha> does . . .
[03:21] <Arafangion> snoopy1alpha: iBook?
[03:22] <snoopy1alpha> Arafangion: dell latitude c400
[03:22] <snoopy1alpha> there is a config-file somewhere (I forgot where) but there you can switch it off, but it did not seem to work
[03:22] <markc> I've got a dell 640m and I'd also like to know how to prevent suspend too ... same problem,    doesn't wake up properly
[03:24] <xsacha> im loving this 3d plugin: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3103/3dew3.png      <-- cant wait till he gives windows a depth ;)
[03:25] <xsacha> running beryl without aiglx or Xgl with an ati card ;)
[03:25] <honest> is there a problem with edgy and mounting drives?
[03:25] <markc> xsacha: nice one :) (I can't even get X up and running)
[03:26] <xsacha> :(
[03:26] <markc> geesus, even windows won't install on this system (supposed to be a dual boot box).. not my night
[03:27] <daghenning> hey. how can I get Totem to play wmv files?
[03:28] <snoopy1alpha> markc: as I saidf there is a config-file in /etc/ but there went something wrong
[03:29] <snoopy1alpha> markc: but unfortunately I forgot the location
[03:30] <markc> I give up... time for bed, see ya's
[03:34] <sickd> hello
[03:34] <sickd> can i ask?
[03:34] <mzli> type your problem
[03:35] <sickd> i have updated to edgy from dapper
[03:35] <sickd> but i have no kdm login
[03:35] <sickd> x starts
[03:35] <sickd> but i don't see the kdm login
[03:35] <sickd> :S
[03:35] <mzli> that happpens.
[03:35] <mzli> the easiest way is reinstall.
[03:35] <sickd> i've tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg && dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:36] <sickd> kdm won't start
[03:36] <sickd> :S
[03:36] <sickd> but
[03:36] <sickd> can't
[03:36] <sickd> y see de X mouse pointer
[03:36] <sickd> na'
[03:36] <sickd> i supposed that kubuntu isn't windows
[03:36] <sickd> and does need to reinstall
[03:36] <sickd> :B
[03:37] <Dzany> Does anyone knows what r default horisontal and vertical refresh rates for 60 Hz? It makes me problem when I install flgrx
[03:41] <Dzany> I need it to write it to xorg.conf
[03:41] <Fun> .
[03:41] <sickd> Dzany: try Xorg -configure
[03:41] <sickd> :B
[03:41] <sickd> but backup your old xorg.config
[03:41] <Dzany> ok tnx
[03:42] <sickd> or
[03:42] <sickd> dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[03:42] <Dzany> what's difrerence?
[03:43] <Dzany> between that 2 commands?
[03:43] <ubuntu> !GRUB
[03:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:43] <sickd> good
[03:43] <sickd> :D
[03:43] <sickd> was the glx module
[03:43] <sickd> in conflict with fgl
[03:43] <sickd> xD
[03:43] <sickd> and X starts at vty7
[03:43] <sickd> :D
[03:44] <sickd> nice
[03:44] <sickd> :D
[03:45] <suso> hola
[03:45] <sickd> hola suso
[03:45] <sickd> :B
[03:47] <eka> guten morgen, suso!
[03:49] <ubuntu_> !qtparted
[03:49] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[03:52] <otaku-san> How would I go about completely nuking swiftfox from my box?
[03:53] <Dzany> when I try Xorg -configure it tells me "caught signal 11.Aborting"  What is it?
[03:53] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: adept will be able to remove switfox
[03:54] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: or, if installed with Automatix, use Automatix to uninstall
[03:55] <otaku-san> Bubba_Gump: if I can remember correctly I compiled swiftfox...and dumb me forgot a command that would make uninstalling a bit easier...
[03:56] <roger> list
[03:56] <otaku-san> Bubba_Gump: but there is a way to uninstall it...just not as easy.  You don't happen to know do you?
[03:56] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: i'm going to have to learn the Linux commands, at the moment I use the GUI :)
[03:56] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: If Swiftfox was compiled then probably not :(
[03:57] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: do tell me if you manage to find a way though :)
[03:57] <tomas_> ./list
[03:57] <Dzany> Does anyone knows what is signal 11 error when I try to run Xorg -configure?
[03:58] <sickd> :S
[03:58] <sickd> Dzany: try dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[03:58] <Dzany> than nothing happends
[03:58] <sickd> if you use edgy try other vty's
[03:58] <sickd> i have x on vty7
[03:58] <sickd> :S
[03:58] <Dzany> it is kubuntu 6.10
[03:58] <otaku-san> Bubba_Gump: hehehe ya GUIs are nice.  Oh and there is a way...just not a very easy way.   :D
[04:01] <Fir3FoxXx> hello
[04:01] <nuxil_> lhi
[04:02] <Fir3FoxXx> can i use the "normal" debian-sources in the sources.list?
[04:02] <otaku-san> uhhhggg do they have firefox 2 for installing in dapper or do we have to upgrade?
[04:02] <apokryphos> Fir3FoxXx: no, Ubuntu's packages are frequently very different to Debian's, and you'll probably muck up your package management
[04:02] <nuxil> Fir3FoxXx no
[04:03] <nuxil> Fir3FoxXx, what do you want that anyway
[04:03] <gnomefreak> !firefox | otaku-san
[04:03] <ubotu> otaku-san: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:04] <nuxil> debians sources is like 2-3 versions older that ubuntus :P
[04:04] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: use that guide to install ff2 on dapper. it takes all of 3 minutes :)
[04:04] <Fir3FoxXx> e.g. i want to install dhcpcd
[04:04] <nuxil> so? whats stopping you
[04:04] <nuxil> ununtu has that
[04:04] <gnomefreak> debain uses different versioning than ubuntu and thats where most of the problems stem from
[04:04] <Fir3FoxXx> it isnt available at current time...
[04:05] <Fir3FoxXx> maybe i have to find some ubuntu sources^
[04:05] <Fir3FoxXx> where can i find them?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> Fir3FoxXx: its in the universe repo
[04:05] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: I'm so lazy...I could of done that... oh well thanks man!  Yes know I will be stylin and profilin
[04:05] <nuxil> Fir3FoxXx, ^^^listen to gnomefreak
[04:05] <Dzany> I found this answer to my question:"Yep, xorg was broken today in release 10 and then fixed later in release 12.". How can i easily :)  upgrade X to unstable version?
[04:06] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: i gave up on ff2.0 a long time ago :)
[04:06] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: why?
[04:06] <Fir3FoxXx> sry nuxil i'm german.... i can speak english, but i can't understand his sentence^
[04:06] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: there were alot of issues with it in edgy in the begining. plus i dont think ive ever used a stable version of ff
[04:07] <gnomefreak> Fir3FoxXx: the universe repository has dhcpcd in it
[04:07] <Fir3FoxXx> i try...
[04:07] <nuxil> Fir3FoxXx ?
[04:07] <gnomefreak> !universe | Fir3FoxXx
[04:07] <ubotu> Fir3FoxXx: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:07] <nuxil> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[04:07] <Fir3FoxXx> i have installed kubuntu 1 hour ago^^
[04:07] <nuxil> deb http://ger.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe pherhaps
[04:07] <gnomefreak> nuxil: de
[04:08] <nuxil> oki :)
[04:08] <nuxil> me norwegian
[04:08] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:08] <nuxil> :)
[04:08] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: I used swiftfox 2.0 (which is basically firefox 2.0) and it was buggy...wonder if they'll have the same issues...\
[04:08] <Fir3FoxXx> http://packages.kubuntu.de/apt.php << check all checkboxen on this source-generation-page?
[04:08] <gnomefreak> nuxil: you dont even need a country code
[04:08] <Fir3FoxXx> sry: checkboxes
[04:08] <nuxil> i know..
[04:08] <nuxil> gnomefreak, but its usaly faster to dl localy form your contru
[04:08] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: the biggest issue with ff2 is with flash atm
[04:09] <gnomefreak> nuxil: not a differnece for me. without a CC it will route you to the closest servers. like in us it routes you to uk
[04:09] <gnomefreak> oir gb
[04:09] <gnomefreak> or gb
[04:09] <dhuv> hello all
[04:09] <nuxil> well its fater for me to spesify no
[04:10] <nuxil> i dl it from a close by university
[04:10] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: ya...same with swiftfox...I have ff 1.5 decked out with flash beta 9 and it works like a charm...so I guess I won't break what ain't broken.
[04:10] <dhuv> I have a laptop with a minipci ipw2100 card. If I start kubuntu with it started it  complains that it cannot start eth1
[04:10] <nuxil> so its way faster.. usaly between about 300-500 KB/sec
[04:10] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: i have ff3 with flash9 but ive never had an issue with flash and ff
[04:10] <dhuv> I can only boot properly when I take the card out
[04:11] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: But once they have that little issue figured out..which should be soon I'll check into it.
[04:11] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: 3?  Thru Swiftfox right?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: firefox 3.0 not swiftfox
[04:12] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: how...please do tell
[04:12] <gautam> hi guys
[04:12] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: i run everything that unstable on this pc
[04:12] <gautam> got a small query
[04:12] <gautam> will ubuntu packages work on lubuntu?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: ff3 is in alpha 1 stage
[04:12] <gautam> kubuntu*
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gautam: what is lubuntu?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> oh yes
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gautam: yes
[04:12] <gautam> gnomefreak: thanks man
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gautam: same repos
[04:13] <gautam> i dont wana download all again
[04:13] <gautam> i did try
[04:13] <gautam> was having issues with ssl
[04:13] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: so lucky...I have only one box...and I have to have mostly stable stuff on it...so no ff3 alpha 1 for me....
[04:13] <gautam> ff3?
[04:13] <gautam> is that out?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> gautam: i have ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu fluxbox E17 openbox on this pc
[04:13] <gautam> i though ff2 was new
[04:13] <gnomefreak> gautam: no
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ff2 ius newest
[04:14] <gautam> k
[04:14] <otaku-san> gautam: it's in super alpha mode...not even beta...so it's still in the test stages...very unstable
[04:14] <snoopy1alpha> windows is strange
[04:14] <gautam> kool will try installing files again
[04:14] <gautam> otaku-san:  ff2 works ok
[04:14] <gautam> even opera rocks
[04:14] <gautam> ;)
[04:15] <snoopy1alpha> I burned the kubuntu-alternate image with a free burning tool
[04:15] <snoopy1alpha> the tool did not seem to work properly
[04:15] <gautam> snoopy1alpha:  kool good luck man
[04:15] <snoopy1alpha> the whole system crached
[04:15] <gautam> dang ;(
[04:15] <snoopy1alpha> but cd cd seems to be okay
[04:15] <gautam> did u do a md5sum test?
[04:15] <gautam> or ran a media test?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> snoopy1alpha: make sure you burnt it as slow as possible like 2x if you can
[04:16] <snoopy1alpha> I tested the cd
[04:16] <snoopy1alpha> and the tool, says it is valid
[04:16] <gautam> yes slower the better ;)
[04:16] <gnomefreak> snoopy1alpha: did you burn it as a cd image
[04:16] <gautam> snoopy1alpha:  so system did not install?
[04:16] <gautam> what problem ur getting?
[04:17] <snoopy1alpha> no there are no problems here, just wanted to tell you, about this strange thing ;-)
[04:17] <gautam> haha
[04:17] <gnomefreak> ph
[04:17] <gnomefreak> oh
[04:17] <gautam> ok thanks
[04:17] <Ampa> What is gam_server?
[04:17] <gautam> Ampa: u mean gaim_server?
[04:17] <otaku-san> gautam: I use opera too.  It's super nice...tho' I have to put flash 9 on it...and I'm to lazy to do that now! ;)
[04:17] <snoopy1alpha> but if you wanna solve a problem, tell me how I teach my kubuntu not to suspend to ram when I close my notebook-lid#
[04:18] <dhuv> does anybody have their ipw2100 card working in kubuntu?
 No idea :/ is just that it uses 25% of the CPU.
[04:20] <gautam> Ampa: use the ps command or top to see the name?
[04:21] <gautam> yep yep i see it too
[04:21] <gautam> its a gamin module
[04:22] <gautam> Ampa:  /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server
[04:22] <gautam> thats the full path
[04:22] <uwo> hi all! does n1 know how to get rid of the toolbar handles?
[04:22] <Ampa> gautam: when I use top and ps I  see gam_server using alot of cpu power.
[04:23] <gautam> Ampa:  i think it is for gaim
[04:23] <gautam> if u chat a lot on gaim
[04:23] <gautam> let me see if i can find more info
[04:24] <Ampa> nope, dont have gaim at all.
[04:26] <dhuv> hello all
[04:26] <gautam> it says it is safe to turn it off on boot
[04:26] <gautam> i just googled
[04:26] <gautam> linuxuqestions.org has some questions on it
[04:26] <dhuv> with the ipw2100 minipci card plugged in, I cannot boot up, I get a message saying ipw2200 eth1: failed to start the card
[04:27] <gautam> like i said it is gamin module
[04:27] <dhuv> are there any suggestions?
[04:28] <Hawkwind> gamin has nothing to do with gaim at all
[04:29] <gautam> Hawkwind: yep i found that out
[04:29] <gautam> sorry my mistake
[04:29] <gautam> i did correct myself later
[04:30] <Hawkwind> gamin is the replacement of fam, which isn't much better than fam was IMO
[04:30] <gautam> ok thanks
[04:30] <ehird> when building a package i get
[04:30] <ehird> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:30] <ehird> what path would that be? :)
[04:31] <Hawkwind> ehird: Have you installed build-essential ?
[04:31] <ehird> Hawkwind: yes..
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> ehird: You can get most of the X includes with the xorg-dev metapackage
[04:32] <ehird> thanks
[04:32] <gautam> anyways i'm out
[04:32] <gautam> ty hawk
[04:32] <gautam> later
[04:34] <ehird> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:34] <ehird> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[04:34] <ehird> but i have qt3-dev
[04:34] <tobre> Hi, anyone know how to change video gamma and contrast. I use kmplayer.
[04:35] <ehird> also it complains about libjpeg but i cant find that in the repos
[04:35] <tha1> wireless question:
[04:35] <tha1> what's the difference between the WPA conmfigured in my router and the passphrase generated by wpa_passphrase?
[04:36] <Hawkwind> ehird: apt-cache search libjpeg  gives several results
[04:37] <ehird> any ideas about the qt prob?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> ehird: apt-cache search qt3   Many there too
[04:37] <ehird> yes
[04:37] <ehird> but i have them installed.
[04:37] <ehird> but it complains.
[04:37] <tha1> anyone?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> ehird: You have the libqt3-mt-dev package ?
[04:38] <lorenzo_> hi! how to show Trash and Home folders on my desktop?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: Right click the desktop -> Configure Desktop
[04:39] <Sudo|Faderhval> anyone with experince with raid arrays?!
[04:39] <zoetrope666> drag and drop your 'home' folder from your 'places' menu?
[04:39] <zoetrope666> (onto your desktop)
[04:40] <ehird> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:40] <ehird> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[04:40] <ehird> even aftering installing libqt3-mt-dev package
[04:40] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: where is the option in "Configure Desktop" ?
[04:41] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> hmm how do I update upgrade my Kubuntu distro?
[04:41] <Hawkwind> Nanaki_Yamabushi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: It's an option when you right click on the desktop itself
[04:41] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> When your runnin kubuntu or does that also when your in ubuntu?
[04:41] <lorenzo_> zoetrope666: drag and drop doesn't work
[04:42] <zoetrope666> oh ok. nevermind then. :P
[04:42] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: I'm in "Configure - KDesktop"... now? :P
[04:42] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: It's there somewhere, I don't use KDE so I don't know for sure
[04:42] <lorenzo_> ok :)
[04:42] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: Behavior -> Show icons on desktop
[04:43] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: First option in that menu actually
[04:43] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: it shows only "/" icon
[04:43] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: You running Edgy ?
[04:43] <ehird> ... nano version is really out of date
[04:43] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: yes
[04:43] <Hawkwind> !hidden | lorenzo_
[04:43] <ubotu> lorenzo_: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:43] <ehird> nano version: 2.0 our version: 1.3
[04:44] <Hawkwind> ehird: I built nano 2.0 last night for Dapper in deb format in fact :)
[04:44] <ehird> Hawkwind: using edgy
[04:44] <ehird> ah well, i'm compiling it myself
[04:44] <Hawkwind> ehird: Don't compile it
[04:45] <Hawkwind> ehird: Build a deb package for it.  Very simple
[04:45] <ehird> me want to ):
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Keeps your system cleaner that way
[04:45] <ehird> checkinstall <.< >.>
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> ehird: /msg dpkg simple sid backport
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Do *NOT* use checkinstall
[04:45] <Hawkwind> No need to backport either
[04:45] <ehird> so, what's wrong with checkinstall
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Building the deb takes less than 5 minutes
[04:46] <Hawkwind> ehird: It's horribly written and can trash an entire system
[04:46] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: not working...  ._.
[04:46] <ehird> Hawkwind: alright then, how do i build a deb
[04:46] <Hawkwind> ehird: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[04:46] <lorenzo_> in gnome there is 'gconf-manager'
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Its already in sid - Its more likely to conform to the guidelines ubuntu / debian use than some random /debian directory
[04:47] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: You need to edit the file that URL mentioned above
[04:47] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: That how-to I just gave builds Ubuntu specific packages.  No need to do some silly backport from sid
[04:48] <ehird> Hawkwind: x86 64-bit Users? i'm not on 64-bit
[04:48] <Hawkwind> ehird: You don't need to be on 64Bit
[04:48] <Hawkwind> ehird: That how-to will work for 32Bit systems.  It's for either
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: That is more time consuming when someone else has already done it
[04:49] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: /.hidden edited...not working again :(
[04:49] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: It works fine in my Edgy vmware install
[04:49] <Hawkwind> Jucato: !!!!!!!!!!!
[04:50] <Sudo|Faderhval> anyone with mdadm and raid0 experience?
[04:50] <Jucato> Hawkwind!!!
[04:50] <Jucato> Hawkwind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:50] <Jucato> :P
[04:50] <ehird> cp -r myproject-1.2 /home/myusername/packages/myproject/
[04:50] <ehird> cp myproject-1.2.tar.bz2 /home/myusername/packages/myproject/
[04:50] <ehird> do i have to do that? :/
[04:50] <ehird> it's already in a dir in my ~
[04:50] <ehird> just sans-/packages/
[04:50] <Hawkwind> ehird: Follow the how-to exactly
[04:51] <Hawkwind> ehird: You can change/make directories whatever you want them to be
[04:51] <Jucato> !paste | ehird
[04:51] <ubotu> ehird: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:51] <Dzany> nobody knows what is "Caught signal 11.Aborting" When I try to run Xorg -configure?
[04:51] <hyperactivecrond> is there a way to take jack output and use it as stdin? for example with lame?
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> ehird: You can use cdbs instead of debhelper if you wish
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> ehird: when you run dh_make just select cdbs instead
[04:54] <tony__> hello.. i installed BIND , using Adept , but i have no idea how to start the program, been searching and i can not find it
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> tony__: Why do you need bind ?
[04:55] <tony__> need to setup dns
[04:56] <ehird> would section be editor for nano
[04:56] <tony__> this would be my first time working with bind.. i used to use windows DNS server .
[04:56] <h3sp4wn> tony__: http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/
[04:57] <tony__> bind that i installed, is it shell based or dose it have GUI?
[04:58] <jhutchins> tony__: See also http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html
[04:58] <h3sp4wn> There are no gui dns servers afaik
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> what pkg do i need to install to use glib?
[04:58] <jhutchins> Unlike Microsoft, Linux assumes you will learn something about what you're doing before you run something as potentially dangerous as bind.
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> >=1.2.0
[04:58] <h3sp4wn> jhutchins: That doc is for bind 8 is it not ?
[04:59] <jhutchins> bind is bind.
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> No bind 9 is alot more picky about syntax
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> And the syntax changed substancially
[04:59] <|joe|> hi
[05:00] <jhutchins> I believe that's 9, the link to the homepage will take you to versions for 7, 8, and 9.
[05:00] <tony__> i had a hard time using GUI in microsoft . lol.. i don't think i get it using shell on linux :P.. but thanks anyways for the links . .will go trough
[05:00] <lorenzo__> thx
[05:00] <lorenzo__> bye ;-)
[05:00] <jhutchins> I must've gotten mine right, because it updated to 9 without complaint.
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> Upgrading from 8/9 with alot of zones definately was not straight forward when I had to do it (Maybe the backwards compatibility increased though because I was using a very early version of bind 9)
[05:02] <jhutchins> Bind 9 has been out since 2001.
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> This was in 2001
[05:02] <hyperactivecrond> solved my own prob
[05:02] <ehird> oh excellent now i have to dig out the manpages
[05:03] <ehird> just what i wanted to do instead of just ./configure; make; sudo make install
[05:03] <ehird> which, incidentally, is what i'm about to do
[05:04] <ehird> great! i get an error for that too <3<3<3
[05:04] <xavi> hola a todos!!
[05:05] <Jucato> !es
[05:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:06] <ehird> what do i need to install to get nano compiled? i know libncurses, what else
[05:06] <Jucato> ehird: nano is installed by default
[05:06] <Jucato> of course, unless you meant a newer version?
[05:06] <ehird> Jucato: i'm compiling nano 2.0.0
[05:06] <Jucato> ah
[05:06] <Dr_willis> isent there some apt command that can install the related build packates for a src deb...
[05:07] <Dr_willis> but who knows what 2.0.0 wants. :)
[05:07] <ehird> Dr_willis: yes, it uses magic. i.e. no
[05:07] <ehird> /home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/browser.c:610: undefined reference to `wmove'
[05:07] <ehird> /home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/browser.c:627: undefined reference to `COLS'

[05:07] <Dr_willis> it proberly needs directx10, and Mono <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:07] <ehird> getting loads of things like that
[05:07] <ehird> anybody know what i'd need to install for that?
[05:07] <ehird> Dr_willis: heh
[05:08] <Dr_willis> that look like a bug to me. :)
[05:08] <ehird> well, at least it's not like emacs. that needs Windows Blackcomb
[05:08] <ehird> another snip:
[05:08] <ehird> /home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/winio.c:125: undefined reference to `wgetch'
[05:08] <ehird> /home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/winio.c:149: undefined reference to `nodelay'
[05:09] <Dr_willis> hmm the nano homepage has a windows binaries..  :) use wine nano.exe
[05:10] <ehird> ..
[05:10] <ehird> hah
[05:10] <Dr_willis> It just compiled for me. :)
[05:10] <ehird> ... bastard :p
[05:10] <Dr_willis> i got ooddles of dev packages installed.
[05:10] <ehird> guess i'll have to learn vi!</sarcasm>
[05:11] <nekomata> does anyone know which varient of SSL the ubuntu wiki uses? SSL2 or SSL3?
[05:11] <ehird> nekomata: why, you trying to crack it?
[05:11] <ehird> ... interesting
[05:11] <ehird> i ./configured again
[05:11] <ehird> and now make works
[05:11] <nekomata> ehird: trying to figure out why Firefox wont open https pages
[05:11] <Dr_willis> checking for wchar.h... yes  checking wctype.h usability... yes
[05:12] <ehird> but, hmm...
[05:12] <Dr_willis> those are from ./configure output. :P
[05:12] <ehird> interesting.
[05:12] <ehird> `nano` is still 1.3
[05:12] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:12] <willy> alguien me ayuda
[05:12] <willy> nececito hacer un instalador
[05:12] <Dr_willis> it may be in a differnt part of the path.. cd to the src dir and run that nano. :P
[05:12] <nekomata> looking at about:config seems to show that ssl2 is disabled
[05:12] <estigma> alguien me ayuda
[05:12] <estigma> necesito hacer un instalador
[05:13] <ehird> Dr_willis: yeah but i wanna know where it shooted itself to so i can overwrite my usr/bin copy :p
[05:13] <estigma> necesito hacer un instalador con java izq
[05:13] <Dr_willis> watch the install scripts. :P
[05:13] <estigma> ayuda porfavor
[05:13] <ehird> I can't find anything in them ;/
[05:13] <Hawkwind> !es
[05:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:13] <h3sp4wn> ehird: Get it from the feisty repos
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> ehird: (It has already been synced from sid to there by the looks of it)
[05:14] <ehird> no. i don't want to break anything.
[05:14] <ehird> fiesty = break
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> ehird: add a feisty deb-src line
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> ehird: and then apt-get -b source
[05:14] <arrautza> hi
[05:14] <Ayabara> what vo_driver do you use for mplayer in kubuntu? anyone know how to enable postprocessing in  ~mplayer/config?
[05:14] <Jucato> new Ubuntu releases are always synced from Sid in the beginning
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> ehird: You won't break it by having the deb-src line
[05:14] <ehird> q: after make installing something its safe to delete the source dir right
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: They are only interesting in the beginning
[05:15] <Jucato> :)
[05:15] <Jucato> they're even more interesting a few days before the release
[05:15] <Jucato> the excitement and the anxiety
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> Its been frozen for ages by that point
[05:16] <|mp|> is there a .deb PowerDVD anywhere?
[05:16] <ehird> ..
[05:17] <ehird> aha
[05:17] <ehird> nano 2 is in /usr/local/bin
[05:17] <ehird> so can i just delete the nano in /usr/bin?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> ehird,  may want to rename it. :)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> or remove the package.
[05:17] <BluesKaj> try devede24 , |mp|
[05:17] <Dr_willis> -------->  <ehird> no. i don't want to break anything.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> so its best to proberly just remove the nano package. THEN isntall the one from source.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> may be better to use the source and that autopackage feature to make a deb out of it.
[05:18] <deepu> hi
[05:19] <deepu> what is the pass of root in Kubuntu?
[05:19] <Jucato> !sudo | deepu
[05:19] <ubotu> deepu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:19] <ehird> i just removed nano package :)
[05:19] <arrautza> how can I identify a direcction on the sourse list??
[05:19] <nekomata> there is no root
[05:19] <Dr_willis> deepu,  you refering to the live cd? or an installed section.
[05:19] <nekomata> :ox
[05:19] <Dr_willis> arrautza,  identify ?
[05:20] <deepu> when i want to install font for SYSTEM, he ask pass for roots
[05:20] <Dr_willis> deepu, use the first isntalled users password for 'rooty things' :)
[05:20] <deepu> i install for personnal
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> Taking the pre made debian source from feisty would work fine
[05:21] <arrautza> Dr.Willis: i add some oficial adress to he source, but the aptget command say sommething lke
[05:21] <Dr_willis> arrautza,  you did do a 'apt-get update' after changing that file?
[05:21] <Jucato> don't mind  me... I'm under the influence of alcohol... good thing I'm not driving :P
[05:21] <nekomata> it's not abuse if the drugs are willing?
[05:21] <arrautza> like" can't get autentification " or some thing like that
[05:22] <Jucato> nekomata: lol
[05:22] <arrautza> yes i did it
[05:22] <ehird> is there a way to make nano use the extra space at the bottom for more ^<x>'s displayed instead of spacing?
[05:22] <otaku-san> Jucato: Hey there.  What've you been up to?
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> Its not abuse as long as you still sleep right (us fighter pilots get given speed before missions)
[05:22] <BluesKaj> just had a BLT with mayo ...waits for the cholesterol to plug things up
[05:22] <Jucato> otaku-san: drinking :P
[05:22] <Dr_willis> arrautza,  thats the pgp key issue, that you need to get from the repos to verify them. just a warning from apt on a potential security issue.
[05:22] <Jucato> Dr_willis: don't you mean GPG?
[05:23] <arrautza> ok
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  proberly. :)
[05:23] <Dr_willis> MSG/PGP/MSN/PBS/NPR!
[05:23] <Whatsup> What do you think about 6.10?
[05:23] <otaku-san> Jucato: Hahaha drink and hack!  ;)
[05:23] <Jucato> I think 6.10 is Edgy :P
[05:23] <Whatsup> is it good?
[05:23] <arrautza> how can i get it ( the pgp key )?
[05:23] <Jucato> it's Edgy
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Whatsup,  works great for me.
[05:24] <BluesKaj> VG so far IMHO
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:24] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:24] <Jucato> arrautza: usually, the page where you get that specific repository has instructions to download and add a "key"
[05:24] <Whatsup> I have some problems with it after the upgrade.
[05:24] <arrautza> ok.. thanks
[05:24] <ehird> ... whyd oes nano ignore my nanorc file now
[05:24] <Jucato> Whatsup: in Edgy's case, if you have backups or if /home is on another partition, it's best to do a fresh install....
[05:24] <Jucato> sometimes...
[05:25] <BluesKaj> except for configging samba on my windows network ...I have permission "issues"
[05:27] <Dr_willis> ehird,  it hates you?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:27] <kezef> how do you change the init boot thing?
[05:27] <ehird> Dr_willis: yes, great answer, thank you.
[05:28] <kezef> i want to make it init 3
[05:28] <kezef> and i cant remember where the file is..
[05:28] <kezef> im on edgy
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ehird,  almost as good as complaining somthing you made from source, and expecting support in here eh. :)
[05:28] <Hawkwind> kezef: You boot to CLI now ?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ehird,  let me check my nanorc
[05:29] <jhutchins> kezef: Init 3 is identical to init 2 (default).
[05:29] <jhutchins> Ubuntu does not follow the normal runlevel conventions.
[05:29] <kezef> well, i want to install the graphics driver, and thats the only way i can do it.
[05:29] <kezef> well what runlevel is terminal and no xserver?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ## Please note that you must have configured nano with --enable-nanorc
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ## for this file to be read!  Also note that this file should not be in
[05:29] <Hawkwind> kezef: killall kdm if you're using kdm
[05:29] <BluesKaj> trying to use komba2 to access shared files on my windows network but i receive this error message: , smbmount exited with errors. smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000). smbmnt failed: 1
[05:30] <wildchild> how can I set max upload speed particully for one torrent? (with Ktorrent)
[05:30] <jhutchins> kezef: You'll need sudo to do that.
[05:31] <kezef> thanks jutchins
[05:32] <drebel> does anyone have problems burning with k3b on kubuntu 6.06.1?
[05:32] <Hawkwind> drebel: Not I.  What are you trying to burn ?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> ehird,  compile nano with   ./configure --enable-nanorc         :)
[05:33] <drebel> im trying to burn just data cd or dvd and it says io error and gives me a coaster
[05:33] <Dr_willis> ehird,  at first i thought that option was a nano runtime option.
[05:34] <arrautza> ubuntu have second names, like edgy or dapper, does kubuntu too??
[05:35] <Jucato> arrautza: it's the same
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> same ones
[05:35] <Jucato> at least we have names to call them... and they are far from cute anyway
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> feisty ?
[05:36] <Jucato> makes us unique though... and it seems that other distros are now "publicizing" their codenames too
[05:36] <Dr_willis> I perfer "Farting Fawn" :)
[05:36] <Jucato> lol
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> I want grumpy groundhog (not interested in any of the others really)
[05:36] <Jucato> Fscking Fawn probably
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Of course if the 'version' numbers actually ment somting other then just the date of release....
[05:36] <nekomata> Sleeping Sloth?
[05:36] <Jucato> but you do know what grumpy really is, and why it might never be released
[05:36] <Dr_willis> they may be a little more usefull.
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: I know exactly what it should be
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Psycopathic Panda
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: But the things I do want from svn getting them from grumpy groundhog would be easier than building them all the time
[05:37] <nekomata> Commie Codfish
[05:38] <Firetech> h3sp4wn: is there a grumpy groundhog? I haven't heard anything about it since the idea came somewhere between hoary and breezy...
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: By its definition it is supposed to be never released
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: Its has been on various agenda's all the time
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: Never seems to happen
[05:39] <Dr_willis> How about "Beta Beta" :)
[05:39] <wildchild> !ktorrent
[05:39] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[05:39] <Jucato> it's sort of a testing ground
[05:40] <arrautza>  jucato : mmm.... how do i know the one i'm using?
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: Does it actually exist now ?
[05:40] <Jucato> arrautza: lsb_release -a
[05:40] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: Grumpy? haven't asked
[05:41] <wildchild> Is there a way with ktorrent to set max UL speed just for ONE torrent and not global??
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Hmmm...
[05:43] <Dr_willis> I was thinkin that such limits can be a bit hard to do.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i dont see that feature in utorrent.exe either.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> it can set high/med/low bandwith for a specific torrent.. but not specificially for up/down for that torrent.
[05:44] <kezef> hey hutch, that didng work.
[05:44] <kezef> didnt
[05:44] <kezef> what runlevel is terminal?
[05:45] <Firetech> kezef: toy mean console? 1, or halt? 0
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> ?
[05:45] <drebel> Help! i get this error when trying to use k3b.    Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[05:45] <Firetech> *you
[05:45] <drebel> what can i do
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> drebel: try running kdesu k3bsetup
[05:45] <drebel> how do i do that
[05:45] <Jucato> or install cdrecord :)
[05:46] <francois> hey everyone, whats a good website authoring tool for kubuntu ?
[05:46] <Jucato> Quanta Plus?
[05:46] <nekomata> kate ^.^
[05:46] <Jucato> (other options are Nvu and Bluefish)
[05:46] <Firetech> yeah, try Quanta
[05:46] <Jucato> Kate's good too. if you're into hard/hand-coding your pages :)
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: cdrecord is a dependancy of k3b
[05:47] <Jucato> oh :)
[05:47] <Dr_willis> ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord
[05:47] <Dr_willis> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133 2006-08-17 08:57 /usr/bin/cdrecord
[05:47] <francois> ok thanks all
[05:47] <Dr_willis> its not SUID on this machine..
[05:47] <nekomata> I think I had one too many bad experiances with website authoring tools in the early days ;o)
[05:47] <francois> me too, stupid notepad
[05:47] <Dr_willis> oh for the good ole days.. of nice static sites...
[05:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:48] <francois> giant tables were everywhere, lol
[05:48] <nekomata> notepad was relatively good, compared to the graphical ones
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> avoid flash and java (and you actually get the most interesting sites anyway)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> then silly web tricks of the week... "oh lets use frames for a navigation panel" - lets use Tables and blank gfx to indent stuff...
[05:48] <Firetech> like Netscape Composer, which made a new font tag for eachg property
[05:48] <Jucato> never used Dreamweaver or Frontpage... just notepad..
[05:48] <francois> yeha i'm not a fan of either of those, specially since flash doesn't display right on my computer anyways, lol
[05:48] <mike_> hi guys, what would the syntax be to search the current directory and all sub-folders for all files ending with '.rb' or '.rhtml' that contain the string 'foo'?
[05:49] <mike_> using grep, I assume
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> mod_perl + template toolkit (and html tidy if your webdesigner gives you junk in dreamweaver)
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> mike_: find .rb -exec grep "foo" '{}' \; -print (but that is only one at a time - canot remember the syntax for or with find)
[05:53] <mike_> thanks
[05:53] <BluesKaj> What does this mean and how do i fix it ? Trying to use komba (samba network browser to access the windows network and shared files .  "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts"
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> mike_: I usually have to look at the find man page for more complicated ones
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> !suid
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <|joe|> is here anybody thinking he is good at configuring udev? can't get rule for my IR working
[05:59] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  the smbmnt binary must be set "suid" - smb4k has the same  need.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> the tool to unmount the smb shares must also be SUID for the users to unmount the shares
[05:59] <Dr_willis> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 smbmnt
[05:59] <Dr_willis>  -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    6088 2006-07-11 09:28 smbumount
[05:59] <Dr_willis> note the 's'
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> sudo chmod +s `which smbmnt`
[06:03] <suso> hola
[06:03] <Sudo|Faderhval> how do i log in to secure mode ??
[06:05] <suso> soy novato estoy en el Adep Installer y no tengo instalado el Package Manager
[06:05] <suso> alguien me puede decir como instalarlo?
[06:06] <draik> My laptop can't seem to remember the root password that I have set
[06:06] <draik> How do I make it remember?
[06:06] <draik> what file do I modify?
[06:06] <timgluz> hi!
[06:07] <draik> hi timgluz
[06:08] <|joe|> draik: you mean your password or root pw? ubuntu doesn't have root account enabled out of the box
[06:08] <|joe|> draik: you can change your pw by running 'passwd'
[06:09] <draik> |joe|: root pw. I did   "sudo passwd root" to set the pw, but it won't remember it
[06:09] <draik> and I need it for maintenance
[06:09] <draik> Can't log into my laptop at all
[06:09] <draik> errors with Kubuntu partition
[06:10] <draik> I don't have a prompt
[06:10] <Sudo|Faderhval> can anyone tell me how i log in, in secure mode??
[06:11] <draik> |joe|: I want to run fsck on the partition, but I can't do it without root pw or even a prompt to attempt sudo fsck
[06:11] <Dr_willis> secure?
[06:11] <Sudo|Faderhval> rescue mode even
[06:12] <Dr_willis> boot to single user mode - may be a good idea. or use a live cd.
[06:12] <|joe|> draik: i don't understand
[06:12] <draik> |joe|: Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue):
[06:13] <draik> CTRL-D reboots
[06:13] <|joe|> draik: and how did you boot?
[06:13] <arrautza> how can i install flash player 9 beta?
[06:14] <draik> |joe|: I rebooted because my laptop was lagging with 100% CPU and RAM w/ ~ 20% SWAP
[06:14] <draik> 1GB swap
[06:15] <|joe|> draik: hmmmm never had this, do you have a cd/dvd? can you try to boot from it and run fsck there?
[06:15] <draik> I will
[06:15] <draik> I do AND I will
[06:16] <|joe|> draik: ok i see
[06:17] <|joe|> draik: sorry i can't help you here; the root account is disabled by default, and i'm not sure what checks are done at this prompt
[06:17] <|joe|> draik: maybe you'd have to enable the root accout first
[06:17] <draik> |joe|: What options should I do for fsck?
[06:18] <|joe|> draik: ext3 or what do you have there?
[06:19] <roberto> salve a tutti
[06:19] <Sudo|Faderhval> draik try sudo passwd root
[06:19] <ehird> what's the ./configure switch to enable syntax highlighting in nano?
[06:19] <roberto> i hi
[06:19] <|joe|> Sudo|Faderhval: did already
[06:19] <draik> Sudo|Faderhval: I did. My laptop can't seem to hold on to that information
[06:19] <roberto> good evening at all the people here
[06:20] <roberto> i need help whit Amarok
[06:20] <|joe|> draik: maybe usermod --unlock root
[06:20] <roberto> anyone may help me?
[06:20] <draik> Sudo|Faderhval: I try to avoid rebooting my laptop at any cost. Never remembers root for some strange reason
[06:20] <draik> will do
[06:20] <|joe|> draik: if  you take a look into /etc/shadow you can figure out whether the account/pwd is valid
[06:21] <roberto> ci sono italiani ?
[06:21] <apokryphos> !it
[06:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:21] <apokryphos> roberto: ^
[06:34] <elias_> This is how I believe things should be done in ubuntu and kubuntu alike: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/efficient-coding-strategy
[06:36] <xsacha> hmmm a tip: do not create files starting with a dash and having one letter!
[06:37] <Whatsup> Why not?
[06:39] <xsacha> cause when a wildcard expands, programs seem to take the filename as an option
[06:39] <draik> |joe|: Sudo|Faderhval: Once I have done fsck, I can reboot my computer from livecd to hdd?
[06:41] <xsacha> Whatsup:  finished making file called test, then mv test -test
[06:48] <ubuntu> hi all
[06:48] <adz21c> I don't seem to be able to get my graphics card to work correctly, can anyone offer any assistance?
[06:49] <Whatsup> which one adz21c
[06:50] <adz21c> Nvidia FX5900
[06:50] <Whatsup> Did you install the drivers
[06:50] <adz21c> i am trying to use legacy drivers since that is what i used in dapper
[06:50] <adz21c> yup, tried ones off nvidia.com and the .deb's
[06:50] <Whatsup> and what is the problem
[06:51] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:51] <adz21c> i can't launch anything like glxgears
[06:51] <adz21c> it says i got no glx extension, but its there in the xorg.conf
[06:51] <h3sp4wn> use either the ones from nvidia.com or the deb's (if you try to do both it will mess up)
[06:51] <adz21c> i have
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> exactly tried both means your system is now in any number of states
[06:53] <adz21c> no
[06:53] <adz21c> i mean
[06:53] <adz21c> tried seperately
[06:54] <manitho> hi
[07:10] <usamahashimi> hi all
[07:11] <usamahashimi> how can i restore my grub?
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> grub-install --recheck --no-floppy --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda (something like that look at the grub-install man page)
[07:12] <mi> hi.. if anyone can help... I'm trying to install a package with apt-get but I get: Package ia32-libs-gtk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:12] <mi> is there anyway I can install it?
[07:13] <h3sp4wn> check you have all the repos enabled
[07:14] <usamahashimi> h3sp4wn: i did this but it said that no stage1 found (somthing like that)
[07:15] <mi> h3sp4wn: tks
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> usamahashimi: I am not sure (I use a seperate /boot partition so what works with me for grub doesn't work for most people and leaves me guessing a bit)
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> usamahashimi: try it without the --root-directory part
[07:18] <ako> how do i register my nickname?
[07:19] <Hawkwind> !register | ako
[07:19] <ubotu> ako: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:19] <ako> tnx
[07:32] <kezef> how do you kill the x server?
[07:33] <gnomefreak> kezef: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[07:33] <kezef> if i do that it wont let me run any commands
[07:33] <kezef> i want the terminal.
[07:36] <kezef> how do i get to the terminal?
[07:36] <kezef> without running the x server
[07:37] <farshid> hi to all
[07:37] <RobNyc[] > wow my kubuntu edgy ati x1600 pro running xgl+beryl its so unstable actually its buggy anyways .. is it my fglrx ?
[07:38] <farshid> cool
[07:38] <farshid> wha is this here
[07:39] <dcook> has anyone intalled citrix on kubuntu
[07:39] <dcook> i just  did and it's not working
[07:39] <dcook> i think I'm missing a library or someting
[07:40] <kezef> citrix?
[07:41] <dcook> kind of a remote desktop thing
[07:41] <kezef> hmm have you tried removing then reinstalling
[07:43] <dcook> i just installed it
[07:43] <dcook> it appeared to install correctly
[07:43] <BluesKaj> What does this mean and how do i fix it ? Trying to use komba (samba network browser to access the windows network and shared files .  "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts"
[07:43] <kezef> hmm.. any error messages?
[07:44] <dcook> it says something about libXm.so.3
[07:45] <kezef> try apt-getting it
[07:45] <dcook> there isn't a package for it
[07:45] <dcook> there isn't a package for it
[07:46] <dcook> oops
[07:46] <dcook> i installed it from the package from citrix
[07:46] <kezef> just noticed that
[07:46] <dcook> i'm new at this
[07:51] <Kim^J> Anyone knows a media center program like the Windows Media Center for KDE?
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> For using with tv etc ?
[07:52] <Kim^J> h3sp4wn: No... Just a cool program where all media KDE things are collected.
[07:52] <Kim^J> I don't have a TV card in this laptop. :)
[07:53] <h3sp4wn> Don't know about a "cool program" what I think is cool people think often isn't
[07:53] <Kim^J> Hmm...
[07:54] <stefreak__> A program really like WMCE?
[07:54] <Kim^J> stefreak_: Something like it.
[07:54] <stefreak__> or can amaroK do it roo?
[07:54] <stefreak__> too
[07:54] <Kim^J> Just another unneccessary thing i would like to brag about.
[07:54] <Kim^J> Like a UI for Amarok/Kaffeine/Mplayer and such... Something like that.
[07:55] <stefreak__> hmm
[07:55] <stefreak__> i dont know a program like that for linux
[07:55] <Kim^J> I always try to get new cool stuff so I can brag about them at the Windows people in the class.
[07:55] <Kim^J> Ok.
[07:56] <Kim^J> They thought AIGLX/Beryl was really cool.
[07:57] <Kim^J> And some people where so jealous that they said: It's so ugly!
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> I think vista has a much nicer colourscheme than the default {k}ubuntu one
[07:57] <Kim^J> h3sp4wn: Isn't to hard to change thought.
[07:57] <Lam_> i'm installing cedega and it says i'm missing python-gtk2.  do i install python-gtk2, or python-gtk2-dev?
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> No one ever seems to provide a decent black one
[07:58] <Kim^J> Lam_: Are you compiling?
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> Kim^J: True but consistancy between gtk and qt apps is hard with most themes
[07:58] <Lam_> Kim^J: since cedega is proprietary, i would assume not. it's a deb file
[07:58] <Kim^J> h3sp4wn: I prefer white/blue.
[07:58] <Kim^J> Lam_: Then the one without -dev
[07:58] <Lam_> Kim^J: ok thanks
[07:59] <Kim^J> Lam_: You know that you can do comiling the cvs version of Cedega?
[07:59] <Lam_> Kim^J: what advantages does that have?
[07:59] <Kim^J> Newer.
[07:59] <Kim^J> More bugs.
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> Alot more difficult to get working if you don't know exactly what you are doing
[08:00] <Kim^J> And that ofcourse.
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> It doesn't have the gdb profiles for the games
[08:00] <Lam_> Kim^J: yeah. i don't really know if i want to, but i could give that a shot.  some cvs versions are pretty stable (mplayer), whereas others could be buggy (gaim)
[08:00] <Kim^J> Lam_: Don't use Gaim. It's NOT ready for anything I would say.
[08:01] <Kim^J> Kopete is just so much better. Well atleast for MSN.
[08:01] <Lam_> Kim^J: i don't know. i prefer gaim.  kopete seems very lacking in features. it can't even do proper oscar protocol file transfers
[08:01] <fido> hi everybody!
[08:01] <mav_> Hello all, I have a question regarding Krita
[08:01] <fido> bye everybody
[08:01] <mav_> I've read that it supports PSD v6
[08:02] <Kim^J> mav_: Hit it,
[08:02] <Kim^J> mav_: Use GIMP.
[08:02] <mav_> But in my open dialog I don't see that
[08:02] <mav_> I know Gimp have some basic PSD support
[08:02] <mav_> But I like Krita more
[08:02] <Kim^J> Basic?
[08:02] <mav_> Without layer effects = basic
[08:02] <Kim^J> I can open and modify and play all I want with PSD from PS 9.0
[08:03] <Kim^J> And I got the layer effects that my bud had put in.
[08:03] <mav_> Well, I'm not a designer, I only use Krita/GIMP to cut files I get from my designer
[08:03] <mav_> So Krita doesn't have it ?
[08:03] <Kim^J> I dunno. I never even touch Krita.
[08:03] <wilde> hello is there anyone from poland  ??
[08:04] <mav_> I am
[08:04] <wilde> need help
[08:04] <mav_> Prv
[08:04] <wilde> yes
[08:04] <wilde> can u start
[08:04] <wilde> mam blokade od ciebie
[08:05] <wilde> na spam
[08:05] <mav_> Wejdz na #kubuntu_pl
[08:05] <wilde> oko
[08:07] <mav_> If Krita supported PSD I would use it only
[08:07] <mav_> Now I have to save every file in multiple png's ;/
[08:09] <root_> hi room
[08:09] <root_> i cannot login anymore since an upgrade to edgy, but startx from console works
[08:09] <BluesKaj> root ...change your nick now !
[08:09] <root_> BluesKaj, y?
[08:10] <BluesKaj> never login as root
[08:10] <root_> i know
[08:10] <root_> pls help me, thats the only way for me to login right now
[08:10] <root_> h3sp4wn, are u there?
[08:10] <dell> #
[08:10] <BluesKaj>  /nick  newnick
[08:11] <jack11> so anybody an idea?
[08:11] <jack11> its with the x-authority
[08:15] <tobre> Hi!
[08:15] <timgluz> tere!
[08:15] <timgluz> kuidas tartus kulgeb?
[08:16] <tobre> Is anyone know something about Kubuntu Remote places?
[08:18] <tobre> I made there SSH connection, but I can't remove it.
[08:20] <tobre> timgluz: kes sa oled?:P
[08:21] <max_> hi, i replaced the motherboard on my computer and everything is going fine except i have no sound, i even put a sound card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound messing up and i have no sound from that either
[08:24] <max_> anyone alive in here
[08:24] <tobre> No, I think.
[08:25] <max_> anyone alive in here
[08:29] <adz21c> apt:/
[08:29] <max_> hi, i replaced the motherboard on my computer and everything is going fine except i have no sound, i even put a sound card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound messing up and i have no sound from that either
[08:30] <adz21c> max_: if you launch something like kmix does it even see your sound card(s)?
[08:30] <max_> no
[08:30] <max_> only onboard
[08:30] <adz21c> ok, but it actually acknowledges your onboard car exists?
[08:30] <adz21c> card*
[08:31] <max_> i guess
[08:31] <max_> im not sure
[08:31] <max_> how can i tell
[08:31] <adz21c> well if you launch kmix the mixer window has a combo box with a selection of sound devices, does it have any
[08:32] <max_> i dont see a box with a selection of sound in it
[08:32] <max_> the sound system in system settings has it
[08:33] <max_> like "autodetect" "alsa" "open sound steyem" etc?
[08:33] <adz21c> u've lost me on that one :-)
[08:34] <adz21c> oh wait i know what ya mean now lol
[08:35] <max_> is that what your talking about?
[08:35] <adz21c> no
[08:36] <adz21c> i am thinking of the application kmix
[08:36] <adz21c> it puts a speaker like looking thing in the systemtray
[08:36] <max_> all i see on kmix is output input and switches
[08:37] <adz21c> hmm it might not appear if it only has one then
[08:37] <adz21c> mine has a combo box on the right with selection for my webcam (has mic) and sound card
[08:37] <max_> ya the speaker is there
[08:37] <adz21c> well do u have sliders on output?
[08:38] <max_> yes
[08:38] <max_> there all up
[08:38] <adz21c> any got like green lights above them?
[08:38] <max_> the combo box, is that under output input or switches
[08:38] <max_> they all do
[08:39] <adz21c> its above them next to "Current mixer:"
[08:39] <adz21c> ok
[08:40] <max_> the only cxombo boxes i have are mic select    IEC958 playback source  and   mono output source
[08:40] <adz21c> ok np, not important, as long as it sees a card
[08:40] <adz21c> what u got under switches?
[08:41] <max_> headphone jack, line jack sensors, mic boost, IEC985, mix, mix mono, external amplifier, stero mic
[08:43] <adz21c> u got normal stereo plugged in right? no kind of digital output to amp?
[08:43] <max_> nope, speakers plugged right into soundcard
[08:43] <adz21c> ok
[08:43] <adz21c> what sound card is this by the way?
[08:44] <max_> i dunno, some generic one ive had lieing around for a while
[08:44] <adz21c> lol ok, ummm
[08:44] <max_> i tohught oit might be a sotware thing so i booted up on a Konnopix live cd and still no sound
[08:44] <adz21c> u got "KInfocenter" under system in menus?
[08:45] <Tonren> When I try to play last.fm audio stream in amaroK, it says "No suitable input plugin", and tells me there also might be a network error.  I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 (not Kubuntu).
[08:45] <max_> tonren: #ubuntu
[08:45] <Tonren> max_: K.  No one was answering there, so I figured I'd try here
[08:46] <adz21c> Tonren: you might need a plugin to use last.fm, I don't know I never tried, tried googling for it?
[08:46] <max_> yes, i have that
[08:46] <Tonren> adz21c: Yep!  Google hasn't turned up anything
[08:46] <karl> Hi :)
[08:47] <Letherian> Can anyone help me with a wine-issue, please? :)
[08:47] <adz21c> max_: launch it and go to sound, whats it say?
[08:48] <max_> says abuncha stuff
[08:48] <max_> Letherian: #WineHQ
[08:48] <Letherian> thanks :)
[08:48] <max_> mhm
[08:49] <max_> adz21c: which part do you need to know
[08:49] <adz21c> max_: i don't know, i am cluching at straws for maybe a clue lol
[08:51] <max_> sound driver, installed drivers, card config,  audoi devices, or mixers?
[08:51] <adz21c> audio devices
[08:52] <max_> 0: Intel
[08:52] <max_> oops, hang on
[08:52] <max_> 0: Intel ICH5 (DUPLEX)
[08:53] <adz21c> try running "sudo alsaconf" in konsole?
[08:53] <LjL> alsaconf isn't installed on Ubuntu i think
[08:54] <adz21c> oh ok
[08:54] <max_> what are you running?
[08:54] <adz21c> kubuntu, but i saw it on a forum for guy with same problem
[08:54] <max_> oh
[08:55] <max_> i could understand onboard not working (could just be a motherboard problem) but why woulndt a sound card work?
[08:55] <adz21c> poor drivers maybe
[08:55] <max_> how could i get more?
[08:56] <adz21c> they usually compiled with the kernel so i wouldn't know how
[08:56] <adz21c> i think
[08:56] <intelikey> this is the place to ask windows questions isn't it ?
[08:56] <adz21c> ?
[08:56] <max_> maybe intelikey can help, hes helped me before
[08:56] <intelikey> i tried ##windows  but they never acknoledged me
[08:57] <LjL> well i don't know about that, but this is definitely not the place to ask Windows questions...
[08:57] <intelikey> can/does the windows xp defragmenter consolidate free space ?
[08:57] <LjL> i think it does and that's why it's so slow
[08:58] <h3sp4wn> It cannot defragment the page file though
[08:58] <max_> Ljl: any ideas on my problem?
[08:58] <LjL> no but then you can remove the swapfile (and be careful to not load too many programs...), then defragment, and then recreate the swapfile
[08:59] <adz21c> max put this in console "lsmod | grep snd_ich"
[08:59] <intelikey> i'm trying to defrag an xp for someone for a resize... if left to me the resize would be rm ntfs and mke2fs  but it's not mine.
[08:59] <LjL> max_, i think i wasn't even here when you stated it originally. i guess it's "i have no sound" though?
[08:59] <max_> hi, i replaced the motherboard on my computer and everything is going fine except i have no sound, i even put a sound card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound messing up and i have no sound from that either
[08:59] <LjL> max_: does "cat </dev/urandom >/dev/dsp" give any sound?
[09:00] <max_> ill try
[09:00] <LjL> intelikey anyway AFAIK using the XP defragmenter *should* help consolidating space in order to resize a partition
[09:00] <intelikey> the graph in the defragmenter shows four major congestions of files with large free spaces between.... both the before and after look the same..... ?
[09:01] <max_> no, no sound
[09:01] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: You need to turn off the virtual memory first or its useless
[09:01] <intelikey> h3sp4wn ah ok.  i'll shoot that one in the foot and see what happens.
[09:01] <LjL> max_: no error either?
[09:02] <max_> h3sp4wn: you have any ideas on my problem?
[09:02] <max_> LjL: no
[09:02] <LjL> max_: are you sure it's not a mixer problem? modern soundcards can have a *lot* of mixer controls, some of which a bit cryptic...
[09:03] <max_> its not a modern soundard
[09:03] <max_> its old
[09:03] <LjL> max_, how do you know that Ubuntu is now trying to use that PCI soundcard rather than the embedded one?
[09:03] <max_> i dont
[09:04] <h3sp4wn> max_: Don't have edgy here no idea
[09:04] <LjL> max_, then i guess it's still trying to use the embedded card, which probably does have many mixer controls
[09:04] <LjL> connect something to it and try putting every slider to the max and every switch to On
[09:04] <max_> ok
[09:05] <max_> nothing
[09:05] <intelikey> h3sp4wn i turned vertual memory off  but do i need to reboot for it to affect anything ?
[09:06] <LjL> max_, keep trying the cat </dev/urandom >/dev/dsp thing, not MP3 players or somesuch. can you type "amixer controls" and pastebin the output?
[09:07] <hazard> anyone have any experience with apache?
[09:07] <whtiger711> anyone have a useful program for ubuntu that i can download fromhere
[09:08] <LjL> i have experience with it crashing in debian testing, but aside from that, no
[09:08] <LjL> whtiger711: uh?
[09:09] <whtiger711> someone is trying to teach me to use linux based os's     they said you can get programs from other people through irc
[09:09] <LjL> whtiger711: that's a very bad idea.
[09:10] <LjL> whtiger711: get programs from the repositories instead
[09:10] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell whtiger711 about repos
[09:12] <whtiger711> well i would have to say that should help alot more then trying over irc    thank you LjL
[09:14] <doctormo> hey all
[09:14] <doctormo> bit of a problem with beryl
[09:14] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I would have thought so
[09:14] <doctormo> the window decorations don't apear. they flicker on for a second then disapear
[09:18] <Kazetachi> Hi all. Could use some help with the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy.
[09:25] <espanto> mooooo
[09:28] <kezef> whats a good place for apps?
[09:29] <Hawkwind> kezef: What do you mean ?
[09:30] <Dr_willis> freshmeat.net
[09:30] <Dr_willis> for news of new things. :P is a good place to have a live bookmark for.
[09:30] <kezef> well, i need plugins for amarok
[09:30] <kezef> the cddb wont find the cd names
[09:30] <Hawkwind> kalenedrael: kde-look.org ?
[09:31] <kalenedrael> You mean kezef? :P
[09:31] <kezef> Lol
[09:31] <kezef> thats waht i was thinking.
[09:31] <galathalion> why dont i have any sound in opera anymore? :O
[09:31] <kezef> i like your name Kalendrael, reminds me of an angel
[09:31] <Hawkwind> kalenedrael: Heh, sorry
[09:31] <kalenedrael> :P
[09:33] <kezef> im starting to hate edgy
[09:33] <kezef> i remember in dapper i had a crapload of progs
[09:33] <kezef> and now all i have is like 10 things
[09:33] <shinobi2> hi
[09:33] <Dr_willis> crapload of things that you never used. :)
[09:33] <kezef> lol so true.
[09:34] <kezef> but it was fun to look at!
[09:34] <kezef> thats what matters
[09:34] <kezef> whats a good graphics prog for linux
[09:34] <kezef> something different from gimp..
[09:35] <howefield> guys, can some one help me out and give me a pointer on how to install grub after wiping the mbr
[09:36] <Dr_willis> depends on the job you want to do.
[09:36] <Dr_willis> I saw a SVG image editor the other day.. not GPL but free... but i cant rember its name
[09:36] <Dr_willis> aparently its popular under windows.. and they now have a linux port.
[09:36] <Dr_willis> howefield,  boot live cd, chroot to the / of the system, rerun update-grub
[09:36] <AV1611>  BTW, did anybody ever tried to work at UBUNTU at NEC low-end laptops (M500, P520))? What were your impressions with it?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> I ran ubuntu on a Pent1 - 100 laptop.
[09:37] <Dr_willis> it worked. :P
[09:37] <howefield> thanks Dr_willis
[09:37] <AV1611> that's great, but I meant some laps like Cel 1.x
[09:38] <sybux> !wiki mp3
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <Womper> Hi, I updated from 6.06 to 6.10 today, everything works fine, I think, except for my wireless, ndiswrapper is installed but my wireless adapter does not show up when I type iwconfig
[09:38] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell sybux about mpe
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <sybux> can some1 please tell me which package I need to install to listen mp3 I can't find
[09:40] <LjL> whops
[09:40] <LjL> i never ever get that right
[09:40] <LjL> libxine-extracodecs anyway
[09:41] <shinobi2> if i use redirection to read inputs, ./a.out <data.dat, and i am using FILE *fp to do it with scanf. Is ./a.out really taking the input or fp is reading it from the directory regardless of the < redirection?
[09:41] <shinobi2> wrong channel
[09:41] <LjL> shinobi2: yeah, and the question doesn't make much sense :P if you're using a FILE pointer, i guess you're also using fopen() to open an actual file
[09:42] <LjL> and then using fscanf rather than plain scanf
[09:43] <Dr_willis> the KUBUNTU FAQ mentions what pacnages are needed for different programs to play/use mp3's
[09:44] <slow-motion> n8
[09:46] <sybux> I'm using a multimeda keyboard. Is there a website where I can download xmodmap for my keyboard (it's a logitech)
[09:47] <Womper> !wireless
[09:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:49] <sharakato> hello
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Howdies!
[09:49] <Dr_willis> "Hello, my name is Dr_willis  and Im a Linux Addict"
[09:49] <now3d> hi
[09:49] <howefield> Dr_willis, can I ask you a further question, if I use a program like Acronis True Image to back up my partitions, to try out another version, eg, 6.06 to 6.10, and don`t like 6.10, I could re image my partitions and get the relevant grub back ?
[09:49] <howefield> hope that made sense
[09:50] <sharakato> anybody can help telling me how can i install grub from a live CD__
[09:50] <sharakato> ??
[09:50] <Dr_willis> Grub is normally easier to just have it reinstall itself. then to try to restore it.
[09:50] <Dr_willis> To restore grub i normally do the following..
[09:50] <Dr_willis> get a live cd, boot it, chroot to where my / Normally is.
[09:50] <Dr_willis> run update-grub
[09:51] <sharakato> done
[09:51] <sharakato> thanks Dr_willis
[09:51] <howefield> right, so I could re image my drives, pop in the live cd for the relevant version and go through your method, I`d be back in business ?
[09:51] <sharakato> =)
[09:51] <adz21c> anyone know where i can get the kdevelop package for edgy amd64?
[09:52] <shaddar> how can i configure my wlan so that it connects to a network the time the network is in range ?
[09:52] <howefield> I suppose the worst that can happen is a complete reinstall, hehe
[09:56] <Dr_willis> howefield,  ive used different live cd's once ya chroot - the live cd dont really matter.
[09:56] <adz21c> when i first log in all the colours are bad (as if I have it set to a low colour settings) soon as i launch something like glxgears it all corrects, any ideas why this might be?
[09:59] <stefano> hi
[10:01] <howefield> cheers, many thanks
[10:05] <littlebird> Hey get the word out on chemtrails people.
[10:05] <littlebird> The black ops part of the government is trying to poison and slowly kill it's population through the skies with it's chemtrail program.
[10:05] <littlebird> During clear skies, white spew planes at high altitude silently spew out long white lines of chemtrails. The first type of these trails consist of very fine aluminum particles. These dissapear from sight about as fast as normal plane contrail would. These heat up the atmosphere for better chemtrail dispersal.
[10:05] <littlebird> The other ones slowly widen and disperse and eventually hit the ground giving people a whole range of respiratory problems and deadly diseases.
[10:06] <littlebird> Some of these diseases include Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, Alzheimer's and a whole wide range of other dibalitating and deadly afflictions that can be triggered anywhere from the immediate to many, many years later down the road.
[10:06] <littlebird> Here are some links if anyone wants to look into the illegal government activites that are going on.
[10:06] <littlebird> http://www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails/intro_to_chem.html
[10:06] <Dr_willis> Wow... proof that people belive anything...
[10:07] <ejm> hey, I'm wanting to setup kubuntu for my parents' desktop.
[10:07] <ejm> Anyway, I have the official kubuntu 6.06 cd.
[10:07] <sybux> can1 some1 help me resolving my mp3 listen issue ?
[10:07] <ejm> And it has a buffalo wifi card that I put in.
[10:08] <_doppelganger_> hey guys, anyone ever have trouble seeing the menus in Audacity?
[10:09] <_doppelganger_> where file, edit, etc would be, there are just white rectangles
[10:09] <Dr_willis> sybux,  and the issue is?
[10:09] <Dr_willis> _doppelganger_,  that sounds like a font issue.. but not seen the problem, ive rarely used  Audacity
[10:10] <_doppelganger_> or can anyone recommend a comparable audio editor for KDE?
[10:10] <sybux> I can't listen mp3 even after adding libxine package
[10:10] <Dr_willis> sybux,  listen with what program.
[10:10] <ryanakca> littlebird: no pasting please
[10:10] <ryanakca> lol
[10:10] <ryanakca> grr lag
[10:10] <ryanakca> why can't I install fonts?
[10:10] <ryanakca> 148s lag
[10:10] <sybux> Dr_willis: amarok
[10:11] <_doppelganger_> Dr_willis:  strange...   every other font in KDE is fine
[10:11] <_doppelganger_> maybe i'll load up with beryl and see if i can see anything
[10:11] <_doppelganger_> one sec
[10:14] <_doppelganger_> strange...  still nothing
[10:14] <_doppelganger_> ah, well...  i'll go hunt for another sound editor
[10:16] <_doppelganger_> Dr_willis: ahh...  guess there is a bug-<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:18] <sybux> Dr_willis: do you have any idea ?
[10:19] <dennister> g'day all :)
[10:20] <howefield> sybux, what version of amarok are you using ? when I loaded it up for the first time and tried to play an mp3, it offered to go and get the required files in order to play mp3s
[10:20] <howefield> version 1.4.3
[10:20] <sybux> howefield: I'm running 1.4.3
[10:20] <sybux> alos
[10:21] <Desh> Ok, so I updated to 6.10, everything works, I can connect thru WLAN if I use the CLI commands, but wlassistant does not wanna work. Any clues?
[10:21] <howefield> suppose you`ve tried removing and reinstalling ?
[10:22] <Desh> no..
[10:22] <Desh> :-D
[10:22] <dennister> Desh: wlan assistant is still one of those problematic items with edgy
[10:22] <sybux> howefield: not yet. Can you please indicate me how to remove amarok ?
[10:22] <LjL> sudo apt-get remove amarok
[10:22] <howefield> through adept
[10:22] <howefield> or synaptic
[10:22] <Desh> Ah ok, any other thanks dennister, any ideas on another GUI app that would allow me to connect WLAN?
[10:23] <sybux> howefield: as you want
[10:23] <howefield> err....
[10:23] <dennister> sorry, i'm afraid i don't use wlan on this pc; it's just something i read in the release notes/changelog
[10:23] <sybux> howefield: ok I'll do it with adept
[10:23] <Desh> ok thanks :-D
[10:23] <howefield> right, hope it works out
[10:24] <sybux> hope too
[10:24] <ademan> can checkinstall keep track of binary installers? (*.run installers and whatnot)
[10:28] <dennister> gtg pps...ubuntu linux event here in toronto
[10:28] <gautam> hi guys
[10:28] <dennister> just thought i'd check in :)
[10:29] <ademan> hey
[10:31] <sybux> howefield: yes !!! it's working. I've removed the libxine-extracodec and reinstall but as I haven't enabled the multiverse, when I've done the upgrade to edgy, this package haven't be updated !!
[10:32] <howefield> hehe
[10:33] <howefield> excellent
[10:34] <sybux> howefield: ^^ now for a good job, I'll see a little Saint Saya !!
[10:34] <howefield> bye
[10:38] <gautam> man kubuntu sucks
[10:38] <gautam> ubuntu is better
[10:39] <Electrolyte> I don't understand how Kubuntu could suck.
[10:39] <Electrolyte> It's exactly the same as Ubuntu, except it uses KDE.
[10:39] <gautam> i know
[10:39] <gautam> adept dont work
[10:39] <gautam> what ever u try to install
[10:39] <gautam> it gives error
[10:39] <Electrolyte> Works here.
[10:39] <gautam> synatpic was so easy
[10:39] <Electrolyte> Obviously you're broken it.
[10:39] <Electrolyte> you've*
[10:40] <fannagoganna> gautam, what seems to be the problem?
[10:40] <gautam> dont think
[10:40] <gautam> i just installed it
[10:40] <fannagoganna> with adept, could you be more specific?
[10:40] <gautam> whenever i try to install
[10:40] <gautam> say for eg firefox
[10:40] <gautam> gives a break error
[10:40] <gautam> then wont install
[10:40] <gautam> dep. failed
[10:40] <fannagoganna> did you first do an adept upgrade?
[10:40] <fannagoganna> then an install/update?
[10:41] <gautam> yep
[10:41] <gautam> add repos too
[10:41] <Dr_willis> since both programs are front ends to the apt-get system... i would be impressed if synaptic works while adept faile...
[10:41] <fannagoganna> what are you using, Dapper or Edgy?
[10:41] <Dr_willis> or course you could use the shell and perhaps get some more error messages/info.
[10:41] <gautam> Dr will i know it is strange
[10:41] <gautam> but i never had issue with ubuntu
[10:41] <gautam> everything worked on it like a charm
[10:41] <gautam> dapper
[10:41] <Dr_willis> ive never had an issue with either. :)
[10:42] <Dr_willis> apt-get install synaptic            - and see.
[10:42] <fannagoganna> I wonder if you could try something -- run an apt-get install adept
[10:42] <Electrolyte> hahaha @ thingy :D
[10:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:43] <Dr_willis> I dont even hang in #ubuntu any more
[10:43] <Dr_willis> tooo many 'hold my hand and teach me linux fundamentals, i dont want to read' questions..
[10:43] <gautam> it says not found
[10:43] <gautam> :(
[10:44] <Dr_willis> !info adept
[10:44] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[10:44] <thingy> I don't like trolling...but with a topic like that....I almost have an urge to go into #debian and pretent to be a newbie ubuntu fan boy and ask questions...just to annoy them. heh
[10:44] <fannagoganna> hmm, it's very hard for me to see what's going on without mucking around myself
[10:44] <Dr_willis> thingy,  im suprised that most ubuntu newbies would even know to go in there.
[10:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:45] <fannagoganna> perhaps they know IRC, but are newbies with respect to Linux, KDE, or (K)ubuntu
[10:45] <fannagoganna> it's not a crime
[10:45] <thingy> Dr_willis: Ironic that they chose to put that comment in the topic then.
[10:45] <fannagoganna> in fact, that's why Ubuntu was created -- for newbies
[10:45] <gautam> lets see how it goes
[10:45] <gautam> wish me luck
[10:45] <Dr_willis> thingy,  Linux is all about Irony. :)
[10:45] <gautam> i mostly use slackware
[10:45] <fannagoganna> frankly, I'm surprised sound support in Linux is still pure voodoo
[10:45] <gautam> or ubuntu
[10:46] <Dr_willis> Ive started to use slackware a few times.. but never could  get my self to actually use it.. other then a slax live cd or 2
[10:46] <thingy> fannagoganna: what! since when...Ive havent had to scarifice a goat to get sound working since...like 2 months ago!
[10:46] <gautam> i love slackware
[10:46] <fannagoganna> good for you :)
[10:46] <Dr_willis> I cant rember the last time i had a sound issue under linux.. :) but it pays to have a decent card.
[10:46] <fannagoganna> exactly, and therein lies the problem
[10:46] <Dr_willis> dont get me started on the WIRELESS problems i am having under WindowsXP.
[10:46] <fannagoganna> it should work on every card
[10:47] <Dr_willis> and It IS supported card/Os/whatever...
[10:47] <Dr_willis> actually ive had more sound issues under windows then linux.
[10:47] <Electrolyte> Same here.
[10:47] <fannagoganna> so is my cmipci card, and yet sound in is still a complete nightmare to get working
[10:47] <Electrolyte> I get so many blue screens under Windows.
[10:47] <Gecko> Hey there. I am experiencing an annoying lag on youtube, and possibly everything flash-related. Anyone know of this and got a fix?
[10:47] <fannagoganna> but in truth, all OS's are crap
[10:48] <Electrolyte> I wouldn't say that.
[10:48] <Electrolyte> I adore Kubuntu :)
[10:48] <fannagoganna> they're not what I would consider "good" unless they're as reliable as the human heart, and as intuitive to use as the human nipple
[10:48] <gautam> windows?
[10:48] <gautam> i call it winblows
[10:48] <gautam> lol
[10:48] <Electrolyte> Window$.
[10:48] <gautam> it is MS= MiroShit
[10:48] <gautam> lol
[10:49] <gautam> micro*
[10:49] <fdoving> !offtopic
[10:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter.  Am I the only one that is having issues burning DVDs
[10:54] <Dr_willis> stephen,  ive burnt proberly 90+ dvd's this last month with no coasters...
[10:55] <stephen> Lucky you. I have upgraded two machines to edgy and neither of them can burn DVDs now.
[10:55] <Dr_willis> I never upgrade.. i always do clean installs.
[10:55] <stephen> They can read and burn CDs fine.
[10:55] <Acc\Deny> Hi. su on the command line works but something kdesu doesn't seem to work... therefore i can't use many things in KDE.
[10:55] <Dr_willis> sounds like the various dvd-burning-tools dident get set right.. run k3b from a terminal and see if any errors are shown?
[10:56] <stephen> I should rephrase. One was an upgrade, the other was a reinstall.
[10:56] <Acc\Deny> i would add here that i changed the root password by booting into the the 'recovery mode' console prompt
[10:57] <thingy> Acc\Deny: when you use kdesu which password are you typing in...and for gods sake don't type out the password here :-)
[10:58] <Dr_willis> why did you have to use the recovery mode for that?
[10:58] <Acc\Deny> thingy: hello! I type the password which works for su :)
[10:58] <Dr_willis> set the root and first users passwords to be the same. :)
[10:58] <thingy> Acc\Deny: su password not equal to sudo password and kdesu needs sudo password
[10:58] <thingy> Acc\Deny: sudo password = your login password
[10:58] <fdoving> Acc\Deny: you can configure kdesu to work with su, if you want.
[10:58] <thingy> Acc\Deny: oh and hello
[10:59] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: i somehow forgot to create a normal user during installation and when i booted i felt like i reached a dead end
[10:59] <Dr_willis> frogot? heh
[10:59] <Dr_willis> you dident use the live cd installer and make your first users name 'root' did you?
[11:00] <thingy> Acc\Deny:  how did that 845 install prob. turn out ?
[11:00] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: it was like the 5th install which FINALLY booted... i have been having all sorts of WEIRD problems.
[11:00] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  eww....  thats odd...
[11:00] <Acc\Deny> thingy: luckily the vga=771 worked during text mode install... but still can't go beyond 800x600 into KDE.
[11:01] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: i m using the alternate install cd
[11:01] <Acc\Deny> into X *
[11:01] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  yea - i always use that one also. ;)
[11:01] <Acc\Deny> I still am trying to figure out WHAT kind of brain invented this live installer CD... toooo Risky....!
[11:02] <MPS> is here someone running edgy on a HP nc6120?
[11:02] <Acc\Deny> my Kppp doesn't start either is this related to kdesu?
[11:02] <Dr_willis> theres way to many diffrent live-installer programs out.. a lot have some very good features.. but they need to get worked on.
[11:02] <Dr_willis> the idea of a live-cd-installcd- is handy however.. but i think it needs to be made a lot smarter.
[11:03] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: at least it should have a text MODE INSTALLER :)
[11:03] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  i agree there.. and the live cd also includes some windows software (if you put the cd in a windows box) - which i feel wastes space.
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> thingy: how do i change the sudo password? how do i configure kdesu? :)
[11:04] <Dr_willis> and it should have some nice helper 'rescue me from my screwup' tools.
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: ditto
[11:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: yup
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: i think it also has no option for grub... not sure though...
[11:04] <thingy> Acc\Deny: do you have a user you can loginto kubunut as...other than root?
[11:04] <Dr_willis> I noticed the slax live cd. can be used to boot a cd image from a hard drive/usbstick. :)
[11:04] <Dr_willis> which is a neat trick..
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> thingy: yup
[11:05] <Dr_willis> but i think it can only boot  the slax mages..
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: well i have been on knoppix lately... dunno about slax
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> thingy: thats how i get into KDE :)
[11:06] <Uh-Duh> Acc\Deny: sudo
[11:06] <Dr_willis> knoppix is handy :) slax has some neat tools that let you toss together a custome cd easially.
[11:06] <Uh-Duh> i need to reset sudo password.  how
[11:06] <Dr_willis> I liked that SaxonOS live cd.. it could then netboot OTHER machines  so with 1 live cd' ya could boot several on the network.
[11:07] <Acc\Deny> Uh-Duh: u mean i type that in a shell windows inside KDE?
[11:07] <Dr_willis> the 'sudo' password is the first users password isent it..
[11:07] <thingy> Acc\Deny: to give this user sudo privs...type in "adduser yoursuername admin" as the root user...this will put the user in the admin group and now you can use sudo/kdesu etc
[11:07] <Acc\Deny> 0_o
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> aah!
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> add him in the admin group
[11:08] <Uh-Duh> i need to reset sudo password
[11:08] <thingy> Uh-Duh: sudo password == your username's password...so simply login as your user and in the konsole type in passwd and specify a new password
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> Dr_willis: that user no longer exists
[11:09] <Dr_willis> painted yourself into a corner eh?
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> thingy, that user no longer exists
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> well, drive crash
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> and that user profile is not moved over
[11:09] <Acc\Deny> Now the second thing is modem :) I have to keep coming into windoz to google and freenode...
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> that part of the profile is gone
[11:09] <Dr_willis> profile?
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> kppp doesn't start in my case at all
[11:10] <Uh-Duh>  /home
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> no error boxes
[11:10] <stephen> Well no errors are reported by kde.
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> nothing on dmesg
[11:10] <Uh-Duh> dale beams
[11:10] <Uh-Duh> are you here ?
[11:11] <stephen> When I put the burnt cd into the drive the syslog contains
[11:11] <ehird> um
[11:11] <stephen> Nov 11 21:56:51 orion kernel: [92920.192000]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[11:11] <stephen> Nov 11 21:56:51 orion NetworkManager: <debug info>^I[1163282211.427627]  nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_empty_dvd_plus_r
[11:11] <stephen> ').
[11:11] <thingy> Uh-Duh: who are you addressing...type their name before you message or in you msg
[11:11] <ehird> i ctrl+c'd apt-get for... reasons
[11:11] <ehird> and now my whole FS is read-only
[11:11] <ehird> ... help
[11:11] <Acc\Deny> lspci does display something about the modem though...
[11:11] <ehird> =(
[11:12] <Dr_willis> ehird,  you seem to manage to do things... i cant even IMAGINE doing...
[11:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:12] <ehird> Dr_willis: I have no idea how i did it.
[11:13] <ehird> ButIknowI'lldieifitisn'tfixedsoon.
[11:13] <fdoving> ehird: is it mounted read-only?
[11:13] <ehird> fdoving: apparently, since everything says "OMG READ ONLY FILESYSTEM"
[11:13] <fdoving> ehird: 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /'
[11:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:13] <Chris7mas> hi
[11:13] <ehird> yeah.
[11:13] <Acc\Deny> well guyz, is installing modem tougher than getting Xorg to work? :)
[11:14] <ehird> ... i guess there's no fix for stupidity? :p
[11:14] <Chris7mas> how to restart the x server in kubuntu edgy? (alt+ctrl+backspace doesn't work anymore)
[11:14] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  depends on the modem.
[11:14] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  i got some 'real' external serial modems that are trivial to get going
[11:14] <fdoving> Chris7mas: logout, select the menu icon -> restart X.
[11:14] <ehird> ... sudo mount -a doesn't work
[11:15] <fdoving> ehird: you shouldn't use mount -a either, 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /'
[11:15] <Chris7mas> fdoving i need only the keyboard
[11:15] <Chris7mas> because this ut2004demo has a bug that freezes the system (graphic and mouse) but the keyboard works
[11:16] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: well i have a PCI soft-modem; thats what windows call it
[11:16] <Chris7mas> so i have to restart the x server from the keyboard
[11:16] <ehird> thank god.
[11:16] <ehird> that works
[11:16] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  so in other words you have a 'no-idea-if-linux-even-supports-it-modem' :)
[11:17] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: Precisely :)
[11:17] <thingy> Acc\Deny: He likes to setup challenges in his adventure with linux...first the Intel 845 motherboard from hell...and now an unknown modem... :-)
[11:17] <thingy> oops wrong person
[11:18] <thingy> that was for willis
[11:18] <Dr_willis> i cant even imagine using Dialup......
[11:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:18] <Acc\Deny> thingy: I assure you I am not that an adventurist or challengist ;)
[11:18] <thingy> Acc\Deny: masochist then :-)
[11:19] <Acc\Deny> thingy: perhaps ****ed up by circumstances might be better description :)
[11:20] <it06158> hello.how can i add the desktop icons on kubuntu???
[11:20] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: my other wireless broadband conn has no linux drivers in CD... I feel installing it would be tougher than a modem.
[11:20] <thingy> Acc\Deny: here...start by investigating whether the modem will work or not... http://linmodems.org/
[11:21] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  it all depends on the exact card/chipset on the card.
[11:21] <Acc\Deny> ok
[11:21] <thingy> it06158: right click on the KDE icon in the panel and select menu editor
[11:21] <Dr_willis> dont people use normal wired networks these days? :)
[11:21] <Acc\Deny> thingy: nice description of 845 ... "the board from hell" :)
[11:22] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: i dont have an eth connection possibilty at home for the moment... only at work
[11:22] <Acc\Deny> eth=ethernet...
[11:22] <it06158> thingy: where is that KDE icon?
[11:23] <thingy> oh man!
[11:23] <it06158> thingy: im using suse friend.ok i found it
[11:23] <thingy> it06158: on your screen...lower left hand corner...ah ok...heh
[11:23] <ehird> WHAT THE HELL
[11:23] <ehird> MY FS IS READONLY AGAIN
[11:23] <fdoving> !language | ehird
[11:23] <ubotu> ehird: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:24] <ubuntu> ciao a tutti
[11:24] <Acc\Deny> ehird: SPANK IT :)
[11:24] <fdoving> !caps | ehird
[11:24] <ubotu> ehird: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!  Any programs that use it say "Sudo returned an error" or "Conversation with su failed."
[11:27] <Acc\Deny> ancientone: also have a look at http://consistencies.net/20051018/fixing-kdesu-problems-in-kubuntu/
[11:27] <thingy> ancientone: also, why still on dapper?
[11:27] <ancientone> thingy: Is Edgy considered stable yet?
[11:28] <thingy> ancientone: its fixes stuff wrong in dapper for a start...and introduces new ones to replace them :-) but to answer your question...your experience with it will be different from mine...
[11:29] <ancientone> thingy: OK, I have two desktops, and one runs Edgy. The other runs Dapper.
[11:29] <ancientone> thingy: But the one with Dapper has some stuff on it I don't want to lose, so how do I upgrade without formatting the partition?
[11:29] <fdoving> Chris7mas: you can logout and restart X with kdm, with the keyboard, alt+f1, type 'log' to select logout hit enter, then use tab to select 'end current session' hit space, then hit 'alt+e' to restart X.
[11:29] <thingy> is there a !upgrade ?
[11:30] <thingy> !upgrade
[11:30] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:30] <thingy> ah
[11:30] <thingy> there is
[11:30] <thingy> ancientone: but please...do backup your stuff before you do anything
[11:34] <ancientone> Yeah, I upgraded by modding sources.list once. It busted my ndiswrapper and X.Org, so I had to reinstall.
[11:35] <thingy> ancientone: do you have a seperate /home partition?
[11:35] <thingy> ancientone: i mean do you keep /home in its own part.
[11:37] <Linux_Galore> ancientone: let me get this right, you reinstalled because of two text files not being right ??
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> ancientone: yes that all you had to do, setup two (2) text files and org and ndiswrapper would have worked
[11:38] <klerfayt> keyboard layouts aren't ins sytem settings?
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> s/org/xorg/
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: start kcontrol  menu->run  type kcontrol  its there
[11:39] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: nothing
[11:39] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: just type kcontrol in a terminal then
[11:41] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: if you want to edit the media keys install keytouch
[11:41] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: empty http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7694/pilt1ki3.png
[11:41] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: ?? thats not kcontrol
[11:42] <phlegyas_> hi there everybody :)
[11:42] <ancientone> Linux_Galore: Not exactly, I was in console mode stuck without internet or a display manager. Ndiswrapper was fundamentally screwed, and X.org was too, from what I could see.
[11:42] <phlegyas_> hope all 's going well :) :) :)
[11:42] <ancientone> thingy: No, just a /boot and a /.
[11:42] <phlegyas_> is joe here today ???? :D
[11:43] <ancientone> thingy: And swap.
[11:43] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: it is also empty in kcontrol
[11:43] <phlegyas_> I have a question if there's anyone here who could perhaps help me. Can you pinpoint me to a wiki explaining how to import OUTLOOK data to KONTACT?
[11:43] <joe3k> phlegyas_: actually is
[11:44] <phlegyas_> heheeeeeeeeeeeee joey!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
[11:44] <ancientone> OK, I've gotta get sudo working before I can use update-manager.
[11:44] <thingy> ancientone: hmm if possible in the future consider keeping a /home part as well...they allow flexibility and seperate your data from the os...
[11:44] <phlegyas_> how are you my lord? :)
[11:44] <ancientone> thingy: 99% of the programs I have are in /usr.
[11:44] <thingy> ancientone: manually source compiled ones?
[11:44] <joe3k> phlegyas_: hehe ;)
[11:45] <phlegyas_> joe do you happen to know that thing perhaps? how to import data from a PST file into KONTACT?
[11:45] <ancientone> thingy: My programs are almost all installed in /usr/lib, /usr/share, /usr/share/apps/
[11:45] <joe3k> phlegyas_: .pst contains contacts?
[11:45] <ancientone> That's where APT put's 'em, that's where make install puts 'em.
[11:46] <ancientone> That's where dpkg -i puts 'em.
[11:46] <ancientone> That's where they go. :\
[11:46] <phlegyas_> PST from outlook containing everything JOE. like mail contacts meetings etc..
[11:46] <joe3k> phlegyas_: if you still have outlook try to export it into csv
[11:47] <joe3k> phlegyas_: i did it once for contacts it worked, but it at least 4 yrs now
[11:47] <phlegyas_> unfortunately i dont joe. i had it put into pst and then clear-installed kubuntu
[11:47] <joe3k> phlegyas_: did you google for it?
[11:47] <phlegyas_> wow hahahah 4 years uh? i dont even know if i have the patience to keep linux for 4 years QR
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: looks like something is missing
[11:47] <phlegyas_> i am as we speak joe :)
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: ie a package
[11:47] <ancientone> OK, I'm going to go upgrade this thing from the only user with sudo abilities.
[11:48] <joe3k> i have one q as well
[11:48] <phlegyas_> my Konqueror doesnt behave
[11:48] <joe3k> has anybody exp wirh configuring udev? i can't get my rules working
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: best I can do without actually being on the machine is check adept and search under kde see whats missing
[11:48] <fdoving> joe3k: what rules?
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> phlegyas_: then spank it
[11:49] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: xxkb maybe
[11:49] <thingy> joe3k: is this the ir/joystick/mouse issue you were having?
[11:49] <joe3k> fdoving: my ir on tuner card gets kinda random /dev/input/eventX numbers
[11:49] <joe3k> thingy: exactly
[11:49] <thingy> joe3k: ah so your are the |'s guy! :-)
[11:49] <joe3k> i set up the rules but somehow they get ignored
[11:49] <klerfayt> anyone know what package has keyboard layouts for kde?
[11:49] <joe3k> thingy: yeah i finally registered my nick :)
[11:49] <fdoving> joe3k: where do you put the rules?
[11:50] <fdoving> joe3k: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html is good reading.
[11:50] <joe3k> i do udevinfo -a -p /sys/class/input/input3/
[11:50] <joe3k> fdoving: followed that but no success
[11:50] <joe3k> i get SUBSYSTEM=="input"
[11:50] <joe3k> SYSFS{name}=="saa7134 IR _LifeView FlyVIDEO30"
[11:50] <joe3k> then i create udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d
[11:51] <joe3k> KERNEL=="input[0-9] *", SYSFS{name}=="saa7134 IR*", SYMLINK+="input/saa7134ir"
[11:51] <thingy> joe3k: did you come across this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221&highlight=udev+rules
[11:51] <joe3k> well currently i have KERNEL but i tried SUBSYSTEM and other stuff
[11:51] <joe3k> andthe rule does not come up in udevtest
[11:52] <fdoving> joe3k: do you add your rules before everything else or after?
[11:53] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: try sudo kcontrol
[11:53] <joe3k> fdoving: it's 50, so somewhere in the middle
[11:53] <joe3k> 51
[11:53] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: might be a permissions thing
[11:53] <joe3k> oh now i maybe got it
[11:54] <joe3k> maybe the /class/input/xxx entries are created only in 65-persistent-input.rules
[11:54] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: also empty
[11:54] <joe3k> fdoving: could it be the problem?
[11:55] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: package is supposed to be Kxkb, but I don't see any in adept
[11:56] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: I dont have it either
[11:57] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: is it also empty in kcontrol?
[11:57] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: nope
[11:57] <joe3k> heh moving to 66 didn't help
[11:58] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: did you setup kcontrol->Region & Access->Country/Region
[11:59] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: no
[11:59] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: well thats a start
[11:59] <thingy> joe3k: did you see the ubuntu thread about udev rules writing?
[11:59] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: I have and I see everything
[11:59] <joe3k> thingy: haven't read to end yet
[11:59] <klerfayt> hmm I have to log out now
[12:01] <joe3k> phlegyas_: if you'd have outlook this could be interesting http://outport.sourceforge.net/
[12:01] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: it's empty...