[00:00] <yourmghq> i know
[00:00] <yourmghq> which i find strange
[00:00] <_Absolut> hi, someone knows, I'm trying to join ##php and CHANNEL SAYS: CANNOT JOIN CHANNEL (+r) - YOU NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED WITH SERVICES.
[00:00] <_Absolut> What can I do?????
[00:00] <Awesome86> lol, you know?
[00:00] <yourmghq> and no software is detecting it
[00:00] <zvacet> tprankd : in terminal lspci
[00:00] <mitchell_> thanks Mage__
[00:00] <tprankd> arch0njw:  Thanks!  Two devices returned, not sure which one to go with.
[00:00] <yourmghq> it says insert a writeable disk
[00:00] <cyberjunk502> no it isnt mounting histo its 9.10
[00:00] <yourmghq> and i have a writeable disk in there
[00:00] <Mage__> mitchell_, np
[00:00] <arch0njw> tprankd: pastebin the results so I can see?
[00:00] <histo> cyberjunk502: then you will need to create an fstab entry
[00:00] <yourmghq> memorex DVD+RW
[00:01] <histo> !fstab > cyberjunk502
[00:01] <tprankd> http://pastebin.com/Pmea7ezh
[00:01] <Awesome86> Does anybody know how to remove gnome and boot via X11????
[00:01] <histo> !who | yourmghq
[00:01] <tprankd> arch0njw
[00:01] <frosty> Hey im trying to run x11 via ssh on putty but im getting this error, cannot open display :/
[00:01] <cyberjunk502> thanks histo
[00:01] <histo> Awesome86: what do you mean boot via X11?
[00:01] <yourmghq> histo did you get the messages
[00:01] <Hypcrum> What is the default samba password? :/
[00:02] <arch0njw> tprankd: hmmm need to do some webification searching ;)
[00:02] <frosty> please someone help me with x11 :/ im in to deep lala
[00:02] <histo> frosty: you can only forward X apps not the whole display
[00:02] <histo> frosty: and you would need a local X server to forward X apps to. So if your in windows you would need something like cygwin running
[00:02] <geirha> frosty: The machine you ssh in from (the one you run putty on) must be running an X11 server
[00:02] <frosty> i think i get the same when i try forward the clock
[00:02] <_Absolut> :'(   hi, someone knows, I'm trying to join ##php and CHANNEL SAYS: CANNOT JOIN CHANNEL (+r) - YOU NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED WITH SERVICES.
[00:02] <_Absolut> What can I do?????
[00:02] <frosty> but i forgot the command what is it? ;/
[00:02] <tprankd> arch0njw:  Thanks haha!  I'll try to see what I can find.
[00:02] <frosty> xclock?
[00:02] <erUSUL> !register | _Absolut
[00:02] <Awesome86> histo I mean, I wanna boot with the most basical graphic interface, its x11 or xwindow right? I can do it with fedora 5, I install it without gnome or KDE and put rdesktop on xinitrc and startx on rc.local
[00:03] <Mage__> _Absolut, i think it means you have to be registered for that channel to enter
[00:03] <geirha> frosty: Is this ubuntu -> ubuntu?
[00:03] <_Absolut> I did that
[00:03] <arch0njw> tprankd: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/282116
[00:03] <yourmghq> anyone please help
[00:03] <Awesome86> histo I posted about it here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/236887-50-thinclient-installing-linux-graphical-interface-gnome
[00:03] <mylfu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/400268/
[00:03] <strouthos> What was that other name for the home folder exept "~". Something with $ or § or something? :-)
[00:03] <Pici> strouthos: $HOME ?
[00:03] <histo> Awesome86: yes you can. No need to remove gnome just pick the failsafe session from the login screen. but if you want to you just have to remove the gnome packages and gdm
[00:03] <_Absolut>  Mage__:  And where can I register on channal?
[00:03] <StopSign> hello,is there a way to configure your vpn to use firewall,thru virtualbox?
[00:03] <erUSUL> _Absolut: but you are not yet identified- more help in #freenode
[00:03] <geirha> strouthos: "$HOME"
[00:04] <histo> Awesome86: Or you could install a command line system and go from there
[00:04] <tprankd> arch0njw:  I have sound and microphone support, I want to get stereo mix working
[00:04] <_Absolut> Yes Im ID
[00:04] <Mage__> _Absolut, you have to register your nickname
[00:04] <_Absolut> I register wuth /msg    user pass
[00:04] <strouthos> Thanks for reminding me!
[00:04] <arch0njw> tprankd: being dense here ... as in the discrete L/R channel control?
[00:04] <histo> !register _Absolut
[00:05] <_Absolut> Yes
[00:05] <histo> !register | _Absolut
[00:05] <underdev> Hi!  I have added the new ppa for gwibber, but after i apt-get update and agt-get upgrade, apt tells me that it is "holding gwibber back
[00:05] <Awesome86> histo how can I install a command line to boot in the basic graphical interface? cuz I don't think rdesktop works without any graphic interface
[00:05] <Pici> _Absolut: Please ask in #freenode if you have further registration questions.
[00:05] <_Absolut> ok
[00:05] <zvacet> underdev : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:06] <underdev> zvacet: that won't send me into 10.04 beta will it?
[00:06] <yourmghq> hey is anyone helping me
[00:06] <zvacet> underdev: no
[00:06] <histo> Awesome86: command line install is an option on the alternate iso. But you can go through and remoe the gnome packages
[00:06] <underdev> zvacet: ty
[00:06] <yourmghq> k3b says it does not detect a medium
[00:06] <yourmghq> yet it is in
[00:06] <Pici> underdev: no, contrary to popular beleive, dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade you to the next release.
[00:06] <histo> Awesome86: then change the default run level so it doesn't load X on start.
[00:06] <frosty> What would be the ideal cheap netbook laptop to run linux? nothing major on price$$?
[00:07] <yourmghq> histo k3b says it does not detect a medium
[00:07] <enteL> im having some wierd issues while running dual head, on the main monitor maximized windows title bars are going beneath the menu panel
[00:07] <tprankd> arch0njw:  No worries haha, I'm trying to get it so that I can record the audio that I hear, and repeat my voice back from my microphone!
[00:07] <Awesome86> histo thanks.. I'll see what I can do
[00:07] <StopSign> is ufw installed by default in 9.10?
[00:08] <Faratl> is there a program to make youtube run faster
[00:08] <erUSUL> StopSign: yes
[00:08] <judgepg> StopSign: you might want to also check into the GUI version of ufw
[00:08] <histo> yourmghq: can you try sudo apt-get install wodim and try burning with cdrecord in terminal.
[00:08] <judgepg> gufw I think it was
[00:08] <yourmghq> histo will try
[00:08] <StopSign> is gui or just configured through command
[00:09] <yourmghq> ok
[00:09] <yourmghq> histo it is installed
[00:09] <Faratl> is there a program to make youtube run faster??
[00:09] <craigbass1976> I'm about to switch someone from vista to ubuntu, need a hand with some stuff.  What's the version of Thunderbird that comes with jaunty?  My jaunty box is at home, so I can't check
[00:09] <zvacet> StopSign : yes  but you have to enable it
[00:09] <yourmghq> histo how do i do the command
[00:09] <histo> yourmghq: try cdrecord -v nameofiso.iso
[00:09] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: version 2
[00:09] <Mage__> Faratl, no, flash is just slow on linux unfortunately
[00:09] <StopSign> ok man thanks i will figure it out from here
[00:09] <judgepg> StopSign: sudo apt-get install gufw
[00:09] <histo> yourmghq: that will burn the iso to the cdrom drive
[00:09] <erUSUL> !info thunderbird
[00:09] <StopSign> ty
[00:09] <judgepg> np
[00:09] <KB1JWQ> !info mutt
[00:10] <arch0njw> craigbass1976: <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:10] <yourmghq> histo: wodim: No write mode specified.
[00:10] <yourmghq> wodim: Asuming -tao mode.
[00:10] <yourmghq> wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults.
[00:10] <yourmghq> TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
[00:10] <yourmghq> Device was not specified. Trying to find an appropriate drive...
[00:10] <FloodBot2> yourmghq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <yourmghq> Detected CD-R drive: /dev/cdrw
[00:10] <arch0njw> craigbass1976: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/thunderbird
[00:11] <judgepg> StopSign: I believe gufw is a better choice over firestarter.  If I recall correctly, firestarter is no longer under development.  Best of all, learn iptables.
[00:11] <underdev> zvacet: Pici: thanks guys, works great :)P
[00:11] <yourmghq> histo here it is http://pastebin.com/MGpt7s0E
[00:12] <dmfrey> since upgrading to lucid beta 1, gnome-panel is eating a lot of cpu, any ideas what to look at?
[00:12] <StopSign> judgepg, i just installed it thanks agian
[00:12] <craigbass1976> arch0njw, thanks.  I've got to find that version for windows so I can grab her mail from whatever this vista turd has as a default mail client
[00:12] <judgepg> StopSign: np
[00:12] <histo> yourmghq: do you still have k3b open or have the blank cd mounted or something gooffy?
[00:12] <zvacet> craigbass1976 : you can get latest thunderbird  from http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page
[00:12] <yourmghq> k3b is open
[00:12] <yourmghq> histo k3b is open
[00:12] <zvacet> underdev :  8-)
[00:12] <craigbass1976> I may giver 'er a whirl
[00:13] <histo> yourmghq: close k3b and any other apps using the cdrw right now. Then try cdrecord again
[00:13] <yourmghq> i closed them i got something else
[00:14] <sunkoo_> ？
[00:14] <yourmghq> histo here is what i get now http://pastebin.com/xdjMamfW
[00:15] <histo> yourmghq: what command are you typing in to get that output?
[00:16] <sunkoo> 　/ns register yzh125998<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:16] <sudobash> hey if I install ubuntu on a HDD then take that HDD and put it in a different PC than what I installed in on, is it going to have problems booting or can it detect the different hardware and change it's settings for the new pc?
[00:16] <yourmghq> cdrecord -v file name.ISO
[00:16] <sudobash> the drive isn't encrypted or anything
[00:16] <micha_> hey
[00:16] <yourmghq> histo cdrecord -v file name.ISO
[00:16] <yourmghq> sudobash: o
[00:16] <yourmghq> sudobash: no
[00:16] <Mage__> sudobash, should be ok for the most part as long as you don't use any nvidia or ati drivers
[00:16] <erUSUL> sunkoo: change password everybody has seen it
[00:17] <sunkoo> yeah
[00:17] <micha_> if got some problem i want to chown a file but is hase a space init so it dont work
[00:17] <sudobash> thanks thats what I was thinking
[00:17] <sunkoo> i will change again
[00:17] <sudobash> so wait to do driver modules
[00:17] <underdev> is there a way to manually tell an app to run in the system tray?  Gwibber 2.0 ran in the system tray, but the update doesn't
[00:17] <histo> yourmghq: are you sure its a cdrw drive?
[00:17] <yourmghq> so histo what do you think
[00:17] <yourmghq> yes
[00:17] <yourmghq> histo: yes sir/ma'am it says recordable on the side of it
[00:18] <histo> yourmghq: also it looks like it doesn't like your iso saying somethingm about windows not there
[00:18] <micha_> i want to chown a file but is hase a space init so it dont work
[00:18] <yourmghq> i know
[00:18] <histo> yourmghq: do you have another disk you can try just incase the media is bad?
[00:18] <arch0njw> micha_: escape the space with at \
[00:18] <yourmghq> yea i have 8
[00:18] <sunkoo> erUSUL: thank you
[00:18] <trism> underdev: you could try alltray
[00:18] <sudobash> it managed to dual boot next to a really fragmented windows XP installation seems everything is getting better with linux
[00:18] <arch0njw> micha_: for example:  chown +x this\ file.txt
[00:18] <Mage__> micha_, or surround the filename with quotes
[00:18] <micha_> thx
[00:18] <sudobash> constantly improving it seems
[00:19] <erUSUL> sunkoo: no problem; it is better to do this kind of things in the server window not in a channel window
[00:19] <underdev> trism- cool!  checking it out now
[00:19] <yourmghq> histo non of it wants to right to my dvd+rw drived
[00:20] <Hanlon> Sent here by ##php. http://pastebin.com/iHRUY7L0 Apache's throwing PHP errors on startup.
[00:21] <sudobash> Hanlon looks like library files are missing
[00:21] <jrib> Hanlon: 1) What command did you run to get that?  Or where are those messages coming from? 2) How did you install apache, php, and mysql?
[00:21] <Hanlon> Seems you're correct about the files missing.
[00:22] <Hanlon> I installed apache using apt-get install apache.
[00:22] <yourmghq> histo would it have to do with the file having spaces
[00:22] <Hanlon> Those lines are from /var/log/apache2/error.log
[00:22] <sunkoo> HOW
[00:22] <Hanlon> using service apache2 start to start the server.
[00:22] <sunkoo> how about LaTeX ?
[00:22] <jrib> !enter | Hanlon
[00:22] <jrib> !latex | sunkoo
[00:23] <jrib> Hanlon: you confirmed those files do not exist on your system?
[00:23] <Hanlon> jrib: yes.
[00:23] <jrib> Hanlon: is php5-mysql installed?
[00:23] <Hanlon> Only pdo.so exists in the directory
[00:23] <Hanlon> I'm fairly certain it is.
[00:23] <yourmghq> histo umm i removed spaces and renamed file and now i get another error
[00:23] <sudobash> how long before you got this error? right after install of LAMP?
[00:23] <jrib> Hanlon: check...
[00:23] <jrib> !who | Hanlon
[00:24] <Hanlon> jrib: I know. Calm down.
[00:24] <arch0njw> yourmghq: please share the error so someone can help
[00:24] <jrib> Hanlon: I am calm...
[00:25] <Hanlon> sudobash: It started right after I changed my vhosts using what #httpd said. The people there seem to think it's not the vhost's fault.
[00:25] <arch0njw> Hanlon: did you save a backup of your vhosts so you can change it back and confirm that?
[00:25] <sudobash> Hanlon: do you have a backup you can try? probably not...
[00:25] <StopSign> so this firewall gufw seems limited to a program thats in the default list
[00:25] <yourmghq> histo arc0njq here it is http://pastebin.com/TNcgVPJ5
[00:25] <Hanlon> sudobash: no.
[00:26] <Hanlon> arch0njw: I have a working vhost I can enable, yes.
[00:26] <StopSign> is there any doc's out there?
[00:26] <sunkoo> h
[00:26] <erUSUL> !ufw
[00:26] <sudobash> Hanlon: change to your backup vhost and see if the error persists
[00:26] <StopSign> thanks
[00:27] <Hanlon> Error doesn't presist.
[00:27] <Hanlon> I'll go yell at #httpd.
[00:27] <sudobash> it's vhost then for sure
[00:27] <Hanlon> thanks!
[00:27] <yourmghq> so now what do you think histo
[00:27] <histo> yourmghq: I have no idea
[00:27] <sudobash> hanlon: most likely I guess it could still be something else but doubtful
[00:28] <mcsmurf> hi, I have the problem that scite (Ubuntu 9.10) crashes on startup, I created a stacktrace, available at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/7QAwsfMr someone can see the cause out of that stacktrace or should I file a bug on this?
[00:28] <yourmghq> ok
[00:28] <yourmghq> i will try to burn in windows
[00:28] <tprankd> how can I tell what version of open gl is available for applications to use?
[00:28] <jrib> sudobash: those files should exist if php5-mysql is installed though.  Probably, the new vhost uses mysql and the old one doesn't
[00:28] <erUSUL> tprankd: glxinfo | grep -i version
[00:29] <omar_next> Hi I'm getting a permission denied error when I try to empty trash - Any idea's on what to do ? ?
[00:29] <histo> omar_next: there is probably a file owned by root in there
[00:29] <sudobash> mcsmurf what kind of crash? Freeze? Kernel Panic? Red / White Screen? Black screen?
[00:30] <histo> omar_next: open a terminal and take a look
[00:30] <mcsmurf> sudobash: ah, plain normal crash of scite itself :) "Segmention fault" (SIGSEGV)
[00:31] <Typos_King> mcsmurf:  why not just use Geany? :)
[00:31] <tprankd> erUSUL:  Thanks!  I
[00:31] <sudobash> mcsmurf do you have an hardware modules installed?
[00:31] <omar_next> histo, ok hang on a sec - will check
[00:31] <histo> omar_next: ~/.local/share/Trash/files    is where your Trash is on your drive
[00:31] <sudobash> netsplit... you still there mcsmurf?
[00:31] <histo> omar_next: tghats if its gnome
[00:31] <mcsmurf> Typos_King: ah well, the users want to use that program ;)
[00:31] <mcsmurf> sudobash: sure
[00:32] <sunkoo> hi how to log in by my nickname ?
[00:32] <Pici> sunkoo: /msg nickserv help identify
[00:33] <mcsmurf> sudobash: well, nvidia drivers and so on, but nothing special
[00:33] <mcsmurf> other programs have no problems like crashing or such
[00:33] <sudobash> scite is a text editor?
[00:34] <tprankd> Any application that uses Open GL runs very slow, what might be the cause of that?  It was not slow on 9.10, trying out the 10.04 beta at the moment.
[00:34] <Typos_King> yes
[00:34] <histo> hrm.. that must be what happened to frosty netsplit??/ I don't see them my ignores block them.
[00:34] <Pici> tprankd : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[00:35] <tprankd> Pici:  Thanks!
[00:35] <Skadoodle> Does anyone have any experience in using dmraid? When using dmraid -s, under "status : ok," will this change if a HD fails?
[00:37] <xshark> hi
[00:37] <xshark> what kind of chat is this??
[00:37] <erUSUL> !hi | xshark
[00:37] <Pici> xshark: This is the Official Ubuntu Support channel.
[00:37] <omar_next> How do I run Nautilus as root privileges ?
[00:37] <frosty> lol how can i reboot from terminal?
[00:37] <erUSUL> omar_next: not a good idea
[00:37] <frosty> over ssh >.<
[00:37] <sudobash> frosty sudo shutdown -r now
[00:38] <erUSUL> frosty: sudo shutdown -r now
[00:38] <frosty> thank you
[00:38] <sunkoo> waiting for 10.04
[00:38] <omar_next> erUSUL, Having problems with some folders that are locked.
[00:38] <histo> frosty: your back
[00:38] <erUSUL> omar_next: which folders are this ?
[00:38] <sudobash> omar_next you might need to chown them or chmod them depending on the error
[00:38] <histo> frosty: or sudo reboot
[00:39] <frosty> :P
[00:39] <sudobash> sudo shutdown -r now is more direct
[00:39] <histo> sudobash: its the same thing as sudo reboot
[00:39] <omar_next> erUSUL, Tried to change permission of folder but won't let me - the"re are a few in my music folder.
[00:39] <yourmghq> histo i made progress
[00:40] <frosty> sudo is just admin right
[00:40] <frosty> admin powerr
[00:40] <sudobash> sometimes sudo reboot send me to the recovery menu
[00:40] <yourmghq> histo it does not think it is a dvd+rw
[00:40] <frosty> O_o
[00:40] <yourmghq> how can i make it think it is
[00:40] <frosty> i hope i dont do that to me
[00:40] <yourmghq> because it is histo
[00:40] <sudobash> sudo shutdown -r now always works the same for me
[00:40] <histo> yourmghq: I have no idea did it act the same way in windows?
[00:40] <erUSUL> omar_next: if it is your music do « sudo chown -R $USER:$USER folder/ » in a terminal
[00:40] <yourmghq> umm no
[00:40] <yourmghq> it works in windows
[00:41] <yourmghq> it works in windows histo
[00:41] <omikron4> you can use shutdown -f i think
[00:41] <histo> yourmghq: what type of drive is it?
[00:41] <omar_next> erUSUL, Ok will give it a try - Thaniks
[00:41] <yourmghq> cd/dvd
[00:41] <yourmghq> i know it is both
[00:41] <yourmghq> because i have installed games that were wrote with a dvd
[00:41] <histo> yourmghq: no like make model
[00:42] <yourmghq> model?
[00:42] <histo> yourmghq: and why do you suspect that it doesn't think its a dvdrw drive?
[00:42] <sudobash> is it an IDE or SATA drive yourmghq are you sure it's a writer and not just a reader
[00:42] <yourmghq> histo this is why http://pastebin.com/NvdCjcsD
[00:42] <anti> i want to no if there is any anti moustique un ubuntu hhhhhhhhhhh
[00:43] <yourmghq> sudobash: it says recordable on the drive
[00:43] <ruffleS> hi everybody. i'm getting a little 1px border around my background on lucid lynx after i changed my application's font size. is anyone here experiencing the same issue?
[00:43] <Pici> ruffleS : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[00:43] <ruffleS> Pici, kk thanks
[00:43] <sudobash> yourmghq does it say CD+R CD+RW DVD+R DVD+RW what?
[00:43] <mcsmurf> oh *sigh* when starting scite under KDE => crash
[00:44] <mcsmurf> when launching scite under GNOME => it works
[00:44] <Typos_King> anti:  what?   anti-mosquitoes?
[00:44] <yourmghq> sudobash: it says compact dic
[00:44]  * Typos_King sprays anti with a fogger
[00:44] <sudobash> I guess scite is unstable? use something else...
[00:44] <yourmghq> sudobash: but the thing is i have had it work in windows
[00:44] <anti> yes
[00:44] <sudobash> hmmm how old is the drive
[00:45] <Typos_King> mcsmurf:   where did you get it from?  the repositories?
[00:45] <anti> anti-mosquitoes
[00:45] <mcsmurf> Typos_King: I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scite/+bug/373506 stacktrace seems to be a bit different, but someone observed that there (Comment 6)
[00:45] <Typos_King> mcsmurf:   ...and... sooo.. biggie... I've used SciTE.... I prefer Geany myself :|, it does the same, just faster
[00:46] <yourmghq> so sudobash or histo anything
[00:46] <Typos_King> anti:  yeah, you may want to go to the local store and get  some of that :P
[00:46] <Pici> anti: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[00:47] <mcsmurf> Typos_King: need to see if I can convince the users of this (I only do the administration ;), actually I use Windows personally, but don't tell anyone! ;-)
[00:47] <sudobash> there are a lot of things that could be going on yourmghq, I'm thinking one of these: dvd laser went out, tracks have something on them, IDE cable might be bad?
[00:47] <anti> noting
[00:47] <omar_next> erUSUL, What terminal command do I run to change my path - I'm currently in - user@user-desktop:~desktop ?
[00:47] <yourmghq> hmm
[00:47] <yourmghq> sudobash: i like the way you think
[00:47] <erUSUL> omar_next: cd /path/to/new/folder
[00:47] <yourmghq> sudobash: umm i will take it to another computer to my home
[00:47] <erUSUL> !cli | omar_next
[00:47] <yourmghq> sudobash: and try there
[00:47] <sudobash> I had a burner once the had a hair on the track when I got it off and lubed the tracks with a little greese it worked perfectly
[00:48] <omar_next> erUSUL, ok
[00:48] <Typos_King> mcsmurf:   ....   I gather the crashing may just be a version-specific matter, I've run SciTE under kde with np, I don't these days cuz Geany fares better IMO
[00:48] <yourmghq> sudobash: really
[00:48] <yourmghq> i will check mine
[00:48] <yourmghq> sudobash: thanks for your help
[00:48] <sudobash> one of my own hairs got in the DVD burner and stuck to the track and wouldn't let it read anything
[00:48] <sudobash> that burner is still working I repaired it 2 years ago
[00:48] <Typos_King> mcsmurf:   where did you get it from?  the repositories?
[00:48] <mcsmurf> Typos_King: yeah
[00:49] <mcsmurf> Typos_King: some users are somewhat special, they already complained because of the new KDE 4 menu and wanted the old KDE 3 menu back ;)
[00:49] <anti> it just a one fly around me
[00:49] <sudobash> when I say track I mean the metal rodes the laser slides along
[00:49] <mcsmurf> best for those would be no updates in the next 100 years :D
[00:49] <sudobash> rods*
[00:49] <Typos_King> mcsmurf:   what scite version?   1.76?
[00:50] <Pici> anti: This channel is only for support. If you want to chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:50] <mcsmurf> Typos_King: yeah, latest from repository, ubuntu 9.10
[00:51] <Typos_King> mcsmurf:   http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/scite/   <---   there are a few versions to work with
[00:51] <Typos_King> latest is 2.03 on that one
[00:53] <mcsmurf> (and unsetting GTK2_RC_FILES as suggested in the bug works as workaround)
[00:53] <mcsmurf> thanks, I'll try that later today as it's already quite late here :)
[00:53] <paraplegicpanda> Hey all, I need help with a Nostromo n50 Speedpad installation. I keep trying to download the drivers from Sourceforge but they don't seem to be available. Does anyone know of anywhere else I should look for them?
[00:54] <Faithful> What does EC2 in ubuntu server enable you to do?
[00:54] <erUSUL> Faithful: prepares the install so it can be hosted in Amazon EC2 service ? (just guessing)
[00:54] <Bob_Dole> so, I'm connected to my headless server with x11vnc. I want to add a new user with the GUI, but the GUI program for doing that won't let me unlock it. wat?
[00:55] <sunkoo> Hahn
[00:55] <wubba> http://www.ubuntu.com/ec2
[00:55] <philipro> Hi, I'm having trouble with installing Ubuntu 9.10 on a 4 year old Windows PC (2.8GHz Pentium D, 512mb ram, FX5200). I've been trying multiple methods of installing for days. I downloaded the official ISO, and checked the MD5 with the ubuntu site, and it matched. I tried using a CD install, as well as a flash drive install using two different methods (uNetbootin and Universal USB Installer...
[00:55] <philipro> ...1.1). I've tried all of these methods several times. When I attempt to install or run ubuntu, i simply get several lines of code showing up on my screen, then the system halts, and I never make it to the graphical install screens that I've seen online. does anyone have any suggestions?
[00:55] <Bob_Dole> it's a server, but it has a GUI(that I've been using a lot for non-server things while I've been in the hospital)
[00:55] <Faithful> thanks
[00:55] <CartoonCat> ok so back i am to my dependancy stuffs
[00:56] <GrizzLyCRO> hey :)
[00:56] <CartoonCat> How do you forcably resolve a depenadacy error
[00:56] <sudobash> philipro are you trying to boot up the LIVE Desktop?
[00:56] <Typos_King> philipro:      restart with the live-cd, once at the screen, before presssing Enter, press F6, check acpi=off and noapic and THEN press Enter
[00:56] <GrizzLyCRO> i finally booted in win
[00:56] <myrl> hi people
[00:56] <GrizzLyCRO> now i need to add ubunutu to grub :D
[00:56] <sudobash> try to install ubuntu with the alternative CD it is a text based installed but quite easy and takes less ram
[00:56] <rCX> CartoonCat: What are you trying to install?
[00:56] <Bob_Dole> what is the users and groups program called, so I can open it from the command line with gksudo?
[00:56] <GrizzLyCRO> which is lates version of kernel in 9.10?
[00:56] <GrizzLyCRO> *latest
[00:56] <philipro> sudobash: i don't know what that is. I've tried installing and simply running the OS from the disc and it hasnt worked.
[00:56] <CartoonCat> rCX: well im not, thats the problem
[00:57] <philipro> Typos_King: i'll try that real quick, thanks.
[00:57] <myrl> anyone know how to change grub theme?
[00:57] <Typos_King> GrizzLyCRO:   http://pastebin.ca/1849832
[00:57] <razz1> I am using vim and g++ to run helloworld program. what file extention do I need to use to save the file in vim?
[00:57] <CartoonCat> rCX: Handbreak failed to install, now apt feels its name is 'handbreak-gtk' not 'handbreak-svn####'
[00:57] <Typos_King> GrizzLyCRO:   the #.... is just a comment, so you know :P
[00:58] <CartoonCat> apt will NOT remove handbreak-gtk NOR install the svn.deb, so im lost in limbo
[00:58] <sudobash> razz c++ or c whatever you are programming in
[00:58] <erUSUL> razz1: cpp or cc are common ones (the compiler does not care)
[00:58] <GrizzLyCRO> Typos_King, i dont understand how to use that...
[00:58] <sudobash> .c++ for c++ .c for C
[00:58] <Typos_King> GrizzLyCRO:   are you right now in ubuntu booted in?
[00:58] <GrizzLyCRO> no
[00:59] <GrizzLyCRO> i am in win 7
[00:59] <Typos_King> .. right
[00:59] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:59] <GrizzLyCRO> i got neogrub installed with easybcd
[00:59] <CartoonCat> rCX: so ideas before i nuke apt's settings
[00:59] <myrl> how do you change grub theme?
[00:59] <Typos_King> GrizzLyCRO:   then use the live-cd from ubuntu and use that paste lines :)
[00:59] <myrl> how do you change grub theme?
[00:59] <GrizzLyCRO> cant use ive cd
[00:59] <rCX> CartoonCat: Ok. I don't know how to deal with that type of error. Good luck though
[00:59] <GrizzLyCRO> neither usb
[00:59] <myrl> how do you change grub theme?
[00:59] <erUSUL> !grub2
[00:59] <philipro> I am looking at the screen right now. the code it has posted looks relatively similar to the code displayed on my other attempts. It says ? do_page_fault+0x0/0x380
[01:00] <sudobash> myrl do you mean gnome theme?
[01:00] <CartoonCat> rCX: well ty for reading = )
[01:00] <Zenker> hello everyone, i have some interesting reading material for all those that say that linux is virus proof, please check out this site http://staff.washington.edu/dittrich/misc/faqs/rootkits.faq and tell me what u think?
[01:00] <Typos_King> GrizzLyCRO:   can't?   why not?
[01:00] <GrizzLyCRO> can i somehow tell grub to load latest kernel it finds?
[01:00] <GrizzLyCRO> not working...
[01:00] <GrizzLyCRO> itbroke :D
[01:00] <erUSUL> !ot | Zenker
[01:00] <Typos_King> philipro:   did you check those 2 opitions?
[01:01] <Zenker> erusul how is that off topic?
[01:01] <sudobash> GrizzLyCRO I think it aranges the kernel latest first in the menu.lst
[01:01] <sudobash> arranges*
[01:01] <philipro> I did. I then tried "run ubuntu without any changes" and it still locked up.
[01:01] <GrizzLyCRO> there is no menu.lst in 9.10 i think
[01:01] <sudobash> philipro try the Ubuntu Alternative Installer
[01:01] <erUSUL> Zenker: is not ubuntu support i.e it is more ontopic in ##linux
[01:01] <GrizzLyCRO> which is latest kernel in default ubuntu 9.10 repository
[01:02] <GrizzLyCRO> not beta, just default
[01:02] <Zenker> erusul well, the following question was , what firewall can i get for UBUNTU
[01:02] <sudobash> Philipro use the test RAM feature on the CD if nothing else works try to change out the CDROM/DVDROM cable if it is an old IDE type
[01:02] <erUSUL> !firewall | Zenker
[01:02] <paraplegicpanda> Trying to install Nostromo n50 keypad, basically I need to be able to grab the input keys and tell the OS to do something else with them (i.e. press KEY_1 when I press button 01 on the device). What should I use for this?
[01:02] <sudobash> Zenker try firestarter: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[01:02] <GrizzLyCRO> or which kernel is shipped with 9.10 cd
[01:02] <Zenker> thank you sudobash
[01:02] <philipro> sudobash, are you suspecting that my CD drive / RAM is having trouble? I'm sure the CD drive is fine. I'll try the test memory feature.
[01:03] <Typos_King> GrizzLyCRO:   do you get to a Grub screen? in that machine that boots you to win7?
[01:03] <GrizzLyCRO> yes
[01:03] <sudobash> Philipro: you never know really, I'm just covering everything I think you need to check
[01:03] <GrizzLyCRO> neogrub
[01:03] <Typos_King> k
[01:03] <Typos_King> neo?
[01:03] <philipro> okay, thanks i'll try it
[01:03] <GrizzLyCRO> its thing shipped with easybcd
[01:03] <GrizzLyCRO> http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/NeoGrub
[01:04] <sudobash> the IDE cable's can be bad also but you may have a newer sata drive
[01:04] <Zenker> erusul u seem to be very hush hush about viruses whats the deal? is there something i should know?
[01:04] <paraplegicpanda> Trying to install Nostromo n50 keypad, basically I need to be able to grab the input keys and tell the OS to do something else with them (i.e. press KEY_1 when I press button 01 on the device). What should I use for this?
[01:04] <GrizzLyCRO> i have default kernel and latest kernel installed
[01:05] <GrizzLyCRO> but i do not know which versions are they
[01:05] <erUSUL> Zenker: hush hush ? i'm not native speaker. can you rephrase ?
[01:05] <philipro> sudobash: I dont think the cable could be the problem, as i've had trouble with the flash drive install methods as well. this method would have eliminated IDE cable troubles, right?
[01:05] <Zenker> erusul are you familliar with the term white wash? or cloke n dagger ?
[01:06] <razz1> erusul: how do I save it as cpp file, I use :wq, is it right?
[01:06] <sudobash> yeah sorry I'm a little inebriated
[01:06] <exordinary> if you wanna share ex-girlfriend vids --> #chatberry
[01:06] <erUSUL> Zenker: you are saying that i'm trying to silence you becouse i'm somehow trying to downplay the importance of virus in linux/ubuntu ?
[01:06] <sudobash> razz1 yea, but you might find nano easier to use than vi for you: sudo apt-get install nano
[01:07] <erUSUL> razz1: yes
[01:07] <paraplegicpanda> Trying to install Nostromo n50 keypad, basically I need to be able to grab the input keys and tell the OS to do something else with them (i.e. press KEY_1 when I press button 01 on the device). What should I use for this?
[01:07] <philipro> lol no problem. running the memory test now.
[01:07] <sudobash> Zenker, Linux is not virus proof, it is just must more difficult for linux machines to be infected
[01:07] <razz1> erUSUL: does vim always save files in that extension
[01:08] <Zenker> erusul no im asking why u got so defensive about me asking about viruses in a ubuntu support channel, the very channel i was told that viruses are unlikely in ubuntu, and ive noticed some unusual network traffic every since i installed ubuntu and every time i run it , not trying 2 start something, just trying 2 get to the bottom of it
[01:08] <vito__> ciao
[01:08] <sudobash> I tell my customers that get linux, it will not get viruses because really it is the truth, I'm not lying, I don't say it's impossible to get a virus in Linux, I say you won't get a virus most likely...
[01:09] <erUSUL> razz1: if you do :wq vim will writte the file you have open as you opened it. i.e « vim hello.cpp » edit edit edit « :wq » will *W*ritte the file and *Q*uit vim
[01:09] <GrizzLyCRO> is this default kernel in karmic? 2.6.31-14
[01:09] <philipro> sudobash: I'm about to download the alternate installer cd. how will i use this to help me get my installation to work?
[01:09] <callaghan> I'd like to see the stderr output of a program on the console, how can i do that, should look something like this?: ./test 2> (???)
[01:09] <sudobash> anyone that uses Ubuntu more than a single day is going to fall in love with how quick it is and how smooth, I get people saying its not really the speed it's the smooth ness of Ubuntu that they like
[01:09] <morphix> Zenker: have the machine ideal for a period of time with absolutely nothing open while running tcpdump
[01:09] <morphix> idle*
[01:10] <sudobash> philipro you want to use it the same as you did the other ISO, write it to a flash drive with unetbootin (windows version prefereablly) and boot off flash, INSTALL
[01:10] <paraplegicpanda> lsmod
[01:10] <paraplegicpanda> Trying to install Nostromo n50 keypad, basically I need to be able to grab the input keys and tell the OS to do something else with them (i.e. press KEY_1 when I press button 01 on the device). What should I use for this?
[01:10] <natediddy> can anyone help me with installing Eclipse 3.5 onto ubuntu netbook remix? I have looked and looked and can't find what I need
[01:10] <hal> has anyone used alsamixer before?  When you mute / unmute a sound device, what does the icon mean at the bottom of the meters, please?
[01:10] <sudobash> it will not boot up OS but install start installing so if you need to do a backup you want to do it before using the Alternate CD
[01:10] <natediddy> i already have Java
[01:11] <Zenker> morphix act righ now im in windows monitoring with netstat
[01:11] <razz1> erUSUL: when I first opened the file hello I made a mistake of not specifyin the .cpp extension, that's why I was wondering what the default extension was
[01:11] <philipro> i dont need any backups done on that computer. but youre telling me it will immediately start installing once i boot from the flash drive?
[01:11] <hal> one is white text "oo" on green background, and the other is blue text "MM" on black background
[01:11] <natediddy> i downloaded the eclipse 3.5 package and extracted
[01:11] <erUSUL> Zenker: your comment and the page you linked loked like offtopic to me and i told you so. nothing more nothing less. if your question 1) mentioned you use ubuntu 2) ioncluded the concerns about outgoing unknown connections it would be different but as you expressed it it was too general that's why i directed you to ##linux
[01:11] <erUSUL> Zenker: i think you are overreacting
[01:12] <sudobash> philipro it will have a menu but it doesn't boot up Live OS it is a basic installer cd but it still has RAM test from CD no Flashdrive because of unetbootin custom menu
[01:12] <Sargun_Screen> I'm getting this error while trying to bring up my network card: http://pastebin.com/6pcH6XCc
[01:12] <sudobash> philipro did you use Windows Unetbootin or Linux Unetbootin to make flashdrive?
[01:12] <Sargun_Screen> (for nm)
[01:12] <dude1> Dual installed Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 to new External HDD and having problems with GRUB not wanting to load Mint, any suggestions?
[01:12] <Zenker> erusl see there u go again, is ubuntu a linux os? i may be over reacting but neverthe less, im just trying 2 get to the bottom of whats going on, im very new 2 linux, but not to windows :)
[01:13] <philipro> sudobash: The windows version. all preparation i've done for installing ubuntu has been done on a separate win7 laptop
[01:13] <sudobash> the linux version of Unetbootin didn't work on my flash drive I had to make the flashdrive from the windows version
[01:13] <erUSUL> !tab | Zenker
[01:13] <natediddy> !eclipse
[01:13] <natediddy> lol
[01:13] <Zenker> oh cool i didnt know that thanks
[01:13] <dude1> Dual installed Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 to new External HDD and having problems with GRUB not wanting to load Mint, any suggestions?
[01:13] <erUSUL> Zenker: ok; nothing is preventing you "to get to the bottom of whats going on" . Good Luck
[01:14] <Zenker> rofl thanks,
[01:14] <sudobash> but what did work for my flash drive is the Ubuntu Create Bootable Flashdrive in the Administration Menu... It worked perfectly for some reason when Unetbootin in Ubuntu didn't from ISO file
[01:14] <natediddy> i really need to know how to install eclipse 3.5, i have already extracted the file
[01:14] <natediddy> does anyone know anything about it?
[01:15] <sudobash> natediddy did you get source files?
[01:15] <jaycount> natediddy, eclipse the IDE?
[01:15] <natediddy> yes
[01:15] <natediddy> eclipse the ide
[01:15] <sudobash> you will have to ./configure, then ./make, then ./make install from terminal
[01:15] <philipro> well i dont yet have linux installed on any systems in my house. so my options are windows based solutions, until i can get ubuntu up and running on my target pc. the windows unetbootin should work fine using the alternate install though right?
[01:15] <sudobash> or there may be a script you can execute that will do it all for you...
[01:16] <natediddy> see i cant find an executable
[01:16] <ZykoticK9> sudobash, typically it's ./configure && make && sudo make intall
[01:16] <philipro> are you speaking to me sudobash?
[01:16] <sudobash> right well it's the same thing actually
[01:16] <natediddy> no me
[01:16] <jaycount> natediddy, you can install it via apt-get
[01:16] <Zenker> erUSUL ive always believed it all comes down to 1's and 0's anyhow, so where theres a will theres a way, therefor i dont put any sensitive information on a computer anyhow, so its all good, im just trying to fig out who keeps trying 2 login to my network all the time
[01:16] <natediddy> i already downloaded it though
[01:16] <sudobash> && just executes the next command after the previous one completes
[01:16] <natediddy> and i extracted to Desktop
[01:16] <natediddy> i just cant run it
[01:16] <natediddy> lol i dont know
[01:17] <jaycount> natediddy, then do as they say, from the terminal you need to configure, make, and make install. but using apt-get will be 100x easier
[01:17] <philipro> sudobash: the memory test said: "Pass complete, no errors". so the memory is good. i'm going to try this alternate install as soon as its downloaded. you said to use unetbootin and a flash drive?
[01:17] <paraplegicpanda> Nostromo Speedpad n50
[01:17] <paraplegicpanda> Need help
[01:17] <natediddy> ok ill try apt-get
[01:17] <DagmarX> Zenker: Getting mystery ssh attempts at all hours of the day and night?
[01:17] <sudobash> Zenker if you are really worried you should start using OpenBSD with Packet Filter which is like the ultimate firewall (put it on an old POS PC)
[01:17] <jaycount> natediddy, in your terminal type "sudo apt-get install eclipse", itll do the rest
[01:17] <lukey> Hi everyone - is anyone aware of any library issues with cupsd -> libcupsmime ? I went to print a folde
[01:17] <awayne> my wifi icon is gone
[01:17] <natediddy> jaycount, should i delete the one i already downloaded?
[01:17] <lukey> file today and I ran up against this :(
[01:17] <vito__> hello
[01:17] <awayne> it asked if i wanted to allow keyring or something i clicked deny
[01:18] <jaycount> natediddy, sure, it wont hurt anything if you dont but you might as well free up the space
[01:18] <awayne> i just didnt know
[01:18] <vito__> helo
[01:18] <jaycount> natediddy, are you familiar with apt-get at all?
[01:18] <awayne> how do i get the wifi icon back up
[01:18] <natediddy> yeah i am
[01:18] <awayne> in my system tray upper right by my clock
[01:18] <natediddy> used it a few times so far
[01:18] <sudobash> awayne restart and next time it asks you hit accept or ok whatever
[01:18] <jaycount> natediddy, it's by far the easiest way to install software packages, id go ahead and do that, it'll even take care of the dependencies for you
[01:18] <erUSUL> awayne: alt + f2 run nm-applet
[01:18] <IdleOne> awayne: right click on the panel and add to panel
[01:18] <Zenker> dagmarx idk exactly, my router continues to shut down all connections and the provider said its because of someone trying to login with incorrect username/password over and over again
[01:19] <IdleOne> or what erUSUL said
[01:19] <natediddy> ok thanx jaycount
[01:19] <jaycount> natediddy, no prob
[01:19] <sudobash> it might ask you to create a keyring password or if the admin that installed it was smart they would have set it to the same password the root account has
[01:19] <DagmarX> Zenker: Well, you'll be somewhat relieved to know that it's what passes for "normal" on the internet nowadays.   There is no other option regarding ubuntu.
[01:20] <spw> dude1, try running sudo update-grub . I haven't played with grub2 much though, so no guarantee.
[01:20] <darkblue_B> hi all- our user gorup has made a LiveDVD with XUbuntu as a base.. its working really well.. 9.10 I think.. but one thing.. I cannot ssh in when it is running as a VM. I installed openssh-server, and can ssh out.. the connection closed immediately when I try.. what to do? what to check?
[01:20] <sudobash> Zenker yeah you need to make your own router with OpenBSD on it
[01:20] <Bob_Dole> I'm using x11vnc to remotely access my Ubuntu 8.04 LTS server, with XFCE and X.Org installed, and I'm wanting to make a new user. when I open the User and Groups thing, It won't allow me to unlock it, despite the fact that I'm the only user besides root on it.
[01:20] <DagmarX> Zenker: It's easy (okay, for relative values of "easy") enough to block with iptables and the match module
[01:20] <vonadhz> I have ubuntu and recently my computer has been freezing up, does anyone know the problem? it has only started happening since i got ubuntu! and I would like to know how to reinstall ubuntu without deleting my home files because I have them on seperate partitions.
[01:20] <IdleOne> sudobash: yeah, I realised after reading that my way was wrong
[01:20] <Bob_Dole> How do I force it to unlock?
[01:20] <sudobash> with a real processor and upgradeable ram
[01:20] <spw> dude1, if that doesn't work, search for more info here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 (section 6 should be most useful)
[01:20] <dude1> spw already tried that, something totally different here but thanks
[01:20] <DagmarX> Zenker: What sudobash suggests is insane overkill
[01:20] <vonadhz> I have ubuntu and recently my computer has been freezing up, does anyone know the problem? it has only started happening since i got ubuntu! and I would like to know how to reinstall ubuntu without deleting my home files because I have them on seperate partitions.
[01:21] <Zenker> dagmarx i wish i knew what u was saying, thats all jibberish 2 me rofl. i only recently found that i can find out what connections/ports are open via netstat
[01:21] <darkblue_B> vonadhz: linux tests ram
[01:21] <sudobash> no it isn't he wants to know who is trying to get access to his network he can use the Packet Filter with NAT, TCPDump and log the traffic in real time like he wants
[01:21] <darkblue_B> I mean.. it is very unforgiving of RAM errors
[01:21] <DagmarX> Zenker: Is the gateway machine at your place a Linux box or some router appliance?
[01:22] <vonadhz> darkblue_B: I tested ram
[01:22] <IdleOne> vonadhz: pop in the cd and when you get to the partitioning part make sure to select the correct partition to install to and DO NOT select the box to format /home partition
[01:22] <Zenker> DagmarX its a linksys wireless modem/router
[01:22] <Ubuntufan123> Ubuntu 9.10 and earlier can't detect 42" LCD TV, but works great on 20" LCD monitor, anyone heard of this problem or know how to fix it?
[01:22] <DagmarX> If it's an appliance (like Linksys/Netgear) making it just ignore the connections is not so simple.  If it's a LInux machine, it becomes really easy
[01:22] <vonadhz> idleone: okay
[01:22] <vonadhz> darkblue_B: do you know why it would freeze up?
[01:23] <IdleOne> vonadhz: as for the freezing, could be that you are running to many heavy apps at once
[01:23]  * Zenker thinks he needs to get up 2 speed on networks, routers, and how this stuff works rofl
[01:23] <DagmarX> Zenker: If you poke around the admin interface you should be able to find something to click that will disable remote adminstration from outside your home network
[01:23] <vonadhz> IdleOne: like what? i doubt it
[01:23] <IdleOne> vonadhz: Compiz?
[01:23] <sudobash> Linksys / Netgear routers run NIX anyways so what you said DagmarX is BS if he has DD-WRT he could do anything he wanted what you should have said is the manufacturer limits the routers capabilited
[01:23] <sudobash> capabilities
[01:23] <DagmarX> sudobash: They do not necessarily run "NIX".
[01:23] <vonadhz> IdleOne: visual effects are turned off
[01:24] <IdleOne> vonadhz: how much ram do you have?
[01:24] <Zenker> DagmarX charter just helped me do this, good suggestion though, i set it up so only this puter can connect to its setup stuff
[01:24] <vonadhz> IdleOne: 2gb
[01:24] <DagmarX> ...and if he barely knows anything, the odds that he's installed DD-WRT on his Linksys router rapidly approaches _zero_
[01:24] <Bob_Dole> Most of Linksys's routers run a not-unix RTOS because it uses less RAM than Linux
[01:24] <sudobash> majority of them run some form of Tiny Linux kernel
[01:24] <IdleOne> vonadhz: beats me, that is more then enough for ubuntu
[01:24] <Bob_Dole> A small amount of them run Linux
[01:24] <sudobash> depends on chip anyways
[01:24] <DagmarX> BobDole++
[01:25] <vonadhz> IdleOne: it makes me sad i like ubuntu
[01:25] <DagmarX> The LInksys wireless router I have at home is one of them that's not compatible with DD-WRT or I'd still be using that firmware actually
[01:25] <IdleOne> vonadhz: you could try xubuntu or lubuntu
[01:25] <Zenker> its connected to a desktop via etherenet, all the other puters are wireless, he was prolly right when he said it was some stupid worm
[01:25] <DagmarX> I've been too lazy to finish up deploying the wireless card I stuck in the firewall to gimme a proper third network leg
[01:25] <dabid> who owns ubottu?
[01:26] <Bob_Dole> I got a new account setup on the machine with the command line..I forgot something, but the person I was making it for got around it, I think.
[01:26] <vonadhz> Idleone: do you think is worth reinstalling ubuntu before trying xubuntu
[01:26] <IdleOne> vonadhz: worth a shot
[01:26] <dabid> i had problems w/ the keyboard
[01:26] <DagmarX> Zenker: Over here I finally just blacklisted all of China, Japan, Korea, and Russia, as well as half of Europe.  It cut down the number of lines of useless crap in my firewall logs by >85%
[01:26] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[01:26] <sudobash> Zenker, you need to read a lot to be able to really try to do anything you are trying to do
[01:26] <DagmarX> I am *highly* unlikely to ever need to get into my firewall from Hong Kong.  ;)
[01:26] <Tetracomm> A wonderful message for all Creative ZEN owners: Ubuntu 9.10 automatically mounts your ZEN as a hard drive. :)
[01:26] <Tetracomm> I am so pleased.
[01:27] <StopSign> for some reason remote desktop viewer does not see my windows 7 box, its enabled in win 7, any sug's
[01:27] <dabid> why is @lart gone on this channel?
[01:27] <Zenker> sudobash i agree, i have soooo much stuff 2 learn, im trying to go from a mere user that hopes for the best to someone who at least has a little idea of whats going lmao
[01:27] <sudobash> StopSign, maybe you need to install a VNC Server on the Windows 7 box
[01:27] <StopSign> i will try it,ty
[01:28] <DagmarX> Zenker: Before I blocked that, I was getting 50-60 throttle messages per day.  Before I implemented throttling of more than two connection attempts per fifteen seconds (a sure sign of the worm) I was seeing 2000-4000 attempts a day
[01:28] <dsv> what's a firefox extension that will block ads, popups and flash
[01:28] <dsv> ?
[01:28] <DagmarX> dsv: NoScript
[01:28] <erUSUL> dsv: addblock + noscript ?
[01:28] <sudobash> I'm so lazy I don't even care anymore I used to have an OpenBSD box protecting everything now I just use a linksys WRT54GS with the newest build of DD-WRT
[01:28] <Zenker> holy cow DagmarX
[01:28] <philipro> my unetbootin 9.10 alternate installer flash drive is almost finished being built. sudobash, how should i run it? do i still need to check things like noaipc or whatever?
[01:29] <sudobash> philipro, try that later on after you see if it loads up or not, did you ever run that ram test from cd?
[01:29] <harovali> hi , I need to slow down the usb communication , if that makes sense to someone , to use an older or slower usb driver for the usblp0 device. Is that possible ? How ? Where can I configure the usb bus driver ?
[01:29] <philipro> i did run the ram test. it said everything was fine.
[01:29] <DagmarX> Zenker: Yeah that's why when I spawned X-Chat and wound up in here and saw you type that one line, I figured I knew what you were seeing.  That ssh worm is really common traffic now, and unfortunately honeypotting to capture it didn't really show me any simple way to start shutting them down that didn't involve releasing a counter-worm.  :/
[01:30] <harovali> because the printer is printing trash at a full speed
[01:30] <darkblue_B> philipro: well, actually he way ram works is that particular seqnces of access can fail while everything else works
[01:30] <darkblue_B> .. so a good ram test takes a long long time, with many variations
[01:30] <DagmarX> harovali: The ub driver (if it hasn't been put out of it's misery) is slow as molasses.  Not sure if that's something you'd want to use tho since it's (IIRC) going to make all your USB stuff slow
[01:31] <philipro> oh. well i let it run for about 15 minutes. i got bored after that haha. what do you mean particular sequences of access can fail?
[01:31] <DagmarX> harolvali: Any USB printer *should* be able to keep up with what you're sending.  It's possible you've just got the wrong printer driver running.
[01:31] <harovali> DagmarX: in this case I don't care for general usb slowness
[01:31] <DagmarX> philipro: You really wanna just let memtest run overnight
[01:31] <philipro> running alternate install on my flash drive now. HOPING these days of frustration are finally ending!!
[01:32] <philipro> i see. you think that would be the main problem halting my installation?
[01:32] <DagmarX> It's hard to get bored of a test procedure while you're sleeping
[01:32] <harovali> DagmarX: how can I put it on control ?
[01:32] <phiberoptik> ubuntu does not like kde 4.40
[01:32] <phiberoptik> it fubared my whole system
[01:33] <cain22> hello all
[01:33] <denyo> hi
[01:33] <harovali> DagmarX: The only thing I have connected to USB is a matrix printer
[01:33] <philipro> true, dagmar
[01:33] <darkblue_B> hi all- our user gorup has made a LiveDVD with XUbuntu as a base.. its working really well.. 9.10 I think.. but one thing.. I cannot ssh in when it is running as a VM. I installed openssh-server, and can ssh out.. the connection closed immediately when I try.. what to do? what to check?
[01:33] <cain22> anyone used unr on an asus netbook yet?
[01:33] <DagmarX> philpro: As to the "sequences" one of the memtest tests is tests of complementary bit patterns, like 1010101 followed by 0101010.  Sometimes chips will screw up and tie bits together, sometimes they'll fail when all bits are set to 1, sometimes they'll fail when they're written to repeatedly a few hundred times in a row.  Memtest goes through a *lot* of permutations trying to find a way to _force_ ram to fail
[01:33] <tomoj> is there a way to manually create a live usb stick from an iso on linux, without usb-creator?
[01:34] <DagmarX> tomoj: Yes but it's non-trivial
[01:34] <erUSUL> tomoj: unetbootin ?
[01:34] <komputes> tomoj: just install directly to a USB stick
[01:34] <DagmarX> ...as in a huge pain in the posterior to do it manually.  Better to use the usb creater or netbootin like was just suggested
[01:34] <cain22> why wouldn't you want to use usb-creater?
[01:34] <tomoj> ah, unetbootin looks good, thanks
[01:35] <tomoj> I'm not on ubuntu right now and usb-creator isn't working
[01:35] <komputes> tomoj: installing to a USB drive is trivial directly from the installer
[01:35] <philipro> i see. so even if the ubuntu memory test says it is "complete", its very unlikely that it ran every possible combination?
[01:35] <tomoj> komputes: I can't get to the installer :)
[01:35] <tomoj> maybe I could in a VM..
[01:35] <DagmarX> philpro: You're talking about the memory test from the CD, right?  That *is* memtest86 afaik unless it's been changed since I last looked at it
[01:36] <philipro> yes
[01:36] <Myrtti> philipro: memtest should be run several times over, for hours. doing one run will uncover only the most acute errors
[01:36] <DagmarX> philpro: Yeah just leave it running overnight while you sleep.
[01:36] <komputes> tomoj, you can' download burn and boot the ISO/CD
[01:36] <philipro> i see
[01:36] <tomoj> komputes: nope, no CD drive
[01:36] <komputes> tomoj: ah
[01:36] <sudobash> philpro after you try the flash drive you just made and it doesn't work then run the test all night
[01:36] <cain22> borrow a usb cd drive
[01:36] <DagmarX> You can at least have faith that it's a _good_ test because when I was doing bench work it rather quickly took over that job from commercial RAM testing tools that ran on a PC
[01:37] <sudobash> your problem might not even be ram even though I suggested you test it anyway
[01:37] <tomoj> thanks all, unetbootin looks like it will work for me
[01:38] <harovali> DagmarX: the printer is not aparently the problem , since I put another printer and the printing mess continued. It has a conversion cable , USB-parallel , which was also tested in another printer and works, but probably at a slower pace there. Since this computer has a new motherboard, I think a faster driver is being used for USB.
[01:38] <DagmarX> The only thing I knew of that did a marginally better job was a hardware device that cost _way_ too much and included a few overheat tests that ran RAM in ways it wasn't quite meant to, but it *would* catch borderline modules
[01:38] <sudobash> philipro is unetbootin complete yet?
[01:38] <philipro> sudobash: yes, im running the unetbootin flash drive. still seeming to havea bit of trouble
[01:38] <DagmarX> harovali: OH you're using a parallel port adapter?  Ouch.  That could very well create a problem yeah
[01:39] <ahst> exit
[01:39] <ahst> quit
[01:39] <harovali> DagmarX: yes, that's  why now I need to use a slower usb , but how ?
[01:39] <DagmarX> The adapter probably should be signaling back to the PC that it's output buffer is full, but I've never looked into whether or not it _can_ do that, since USB printers are cheap as dirt now
[01:40] <Zenker> hi leagris :)
[01:40] <philipro> sudobash: it seems as if the installer still thinks its a CD. i try to install and i have a few options. "Load installer components from CD" "choose language" "configure the keyboard" "detect and mount cdrom" "execute a shell" "abort the installation" are just a few. where do i go from here?
[01:41] <DagmarX> harovali: Do an lsmod and figure out which driver the parallel port adapter is using and see if there's a kernel option you can maybe pass to it that might allow it to slow down things as needed
[01:41] <DagmarX> I don't know of any way to tell the USB bus to go slower, unfortunately.  THis might not be a solvable problem
[01:41] <aitiba> join #slax
[01:42] <DagmarX> philipro, yeah when you dump the ISO to a CD as far as the computer cares, it's got a CD there
[01:42] <metbsd> ubuntu doesn't work
[01:45] <harovali> DagmarX: i see , thanks
[01:45] <DagmarX> Can your print _plain ASCII_ to the printer and have it work?
[01:45] <ZykoticK9> !doesntwork | metbsd
[01:46] <DagmarX> Just about every printer I've ever used handled plain ASCII dumped to it
[01:46] <philipro> dagmar: i wasnt using a cd. it was a flash drive. i'm going to try burning the iso to a disc this time
[01:46] <DagmarX> philpro: Yes, the primary methods of putting an ISO on a flash drive amount to putting a stub on the drive that boots and then mounts the ISO (or filesystem)
[01:47] <Xial> Question: I run Ubuntu without GUI. I'd like to use a bittorrent client on this unit that also has a web interface, so that the other computers can simply queue a torrent and let it do the job. Unfortunately, I'm not sure where to find such a creature. Does it exist?
[01:47] <sudo-ninJa> hey
[01:47] <philipro> oh, i see. ill try use a physical disc this time
[01:47] <ZykoticK9> Xial, if you have apache running you could try torrentflux it's in the repo
[01:47] <DagmarX> You _can_ boot the CD and then mount the thumbdrive and install to it, but there's some differences between the way PCs boot off a USB thumbdrive that make it sometimes complex
[01:48] <sudobash> it would have to do with his BIOS
[01:48] <philipro> my reasoning behind using the thumbdrive was only to see if the problems were resulting from the disc. after all this frustration it does not seem like it, so i will try to just use a physical cd rom
[01:48] <albertolempira> hey guys, i'm having problems trying to install packages (apps and/or upgrades) in kubuntu using kpackagekit, i get this message "The package download failed.Please check your network connectivity." i'm sure its not a network issue since i can install apps and upgrades trough konsole, i've tried unistalling kpackageit even using purge with aptitude, any idea of what can be going on? thanks in advance.
[01:48] <Xial> ZykoticK9, thanks for the suggestion; I passed on apache2, because it gives me a huge headache for setting it up.
[01:49] <DagmarX> If it's any indication, I've been at this sort of thing for 20+ years and I could be booting my firewall off a thumbdrive, but I still scavenged a laptop drive for the purpose the last time I had to replace the hard disk, just to avoid the extra hassle
[01:49] <kop> can not boot from usb drive after running updates on it any ideas ?
[01:49] <sudobash> there might be a BIOS update that can fix your issue but you really wouldn't want to update just because of that
[01:49] <sudo-ninJa> Question: I have Ubuntu and Windows on my laptop.  Its run as a parallel OS.  For some reason, upon boot, it is extremely choppy and slow and has a whole lot of problems.
[01:50] <sudo-ninJa> But Ubuntu gets up and running, it runs smoothly and without any real issues
[01:50] <philipro> honestly, if i cannot get ubuntu to work im not gonna worry about the bios. i guess ill just install windows xp :O :(
[01:50] <DagmarX> kop: THe BIOS still knows you want to boot from a USB device, right?
[01:50] <philipro> BUT im about to try a cd install first
[01:50] <SuperMiguel> is the vnc the fastest way (non lagg) way to remotelly connect to a machine?
[01:50] <sudo-ninJa> How can I get it to have a proper login and run normally? Or does it normally have problems as a prallel OS
[01:50] <Ziber> SSH would probably be faster.
[01:50] <sudobash> VNC is the best solution
[01:51] <Ziber> Unless you need graphics for some reason.
[01:51] <DagmarX> philipro: Perhaps if you could give us some detail about how exactly the install from CD is failing someone will know a way around it.  For sure installing XP and it's 22 reboots is going to be more hassle than fixing the original problem
[01:51] <philipro> lmao
[01:51] <praveen> It's offering partial upgrade
[01:51] <sudo-ninJa> oh oops ***But once Ubuntu gets up and running....
[01:51] <sudo-ninJa> missed the once XD;
[01:52] <DagmarX> SuperMiguel: You could always use X's native protocol for that.  It predates VNC by a long way but requires you to be using GDM/KDM/XDM on the machine you want to get to, and it won't let you just jump into an existing session unfortunately
[01:52] <sudobash> yeah like I said VNC is the best solution for desktop control, SSH isn't desktop control
[01:52] <DagmarX> X's protocol involves basically starting a new session on the remote machine when you login to your terminal
[01:53] <praveen> Lucid is now offering partial upgrade. Should I upgrade it?
[01:53] <DagmarX> If you're wanting to take over an existing GUI session on the remote machine, VNC probably is your best bet at the present time
[01:53] <sudobash> xtightvncserver does that also, starts a seperate X session
[01:53] <Pici> praveen : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[01:53] <philipro> The error (???) i get is ?do_page_fault+0x0/0x380. its the end of several lines of code before i can even get to the graphical installer. several hundred lines of code are shown over the course of about 3 minutes, then that is the last line to show up, and then the system just doesnt do anything.
[01:53] <praveen> Ok thanks.
[01:54] <philipro> Also, this error is not just from the CD. it is from the flash drive attempts as well (using two different methods, nevertheless)
[01:54] <DagmarX> philipro: So it's probably something in the kernel that's going awry and crashing
[01:54] <sudobash> I bet is doing some kind of io error that is what he is saying lines of code....
[01:54] <philipro> not to be a huge noob. but by kernel you mean my install files right?
[01:54] <Xial> Call it a dumb hunch, but if you yanked a stick of memory from the machine and tried the install, philipro, does it react any differently?
[01:55] <SuperMiguel> DagmarX, i dont care i can start my own session... no need to go back to previos session
[01:55] <sudobash> or just replace the ram if you have any around
[01:55] <spw> I have samba set up to share folders with windows computers, but for some reason the shared folders stopped appearing in the "network" window in windows 7 and vista. The shares can still be accessed manually, using \\hostname\share, but it's considerably less convenient. Any ideas on how to fix?
[01:55] <philipro> i have not tried that yet, you guys really think it is a memory error?
[01:56] <sudobash> I think your chipset isn't compatible with linux possibly but I hope it is RAM...
[01:56] <philipro> trying the CD alternate install now. method number 4, here we go! :)
[01:56] <Xial> I preface my dumb hunches with a statement that it's a dumb hunch. Considering the amount of media you've tried, I don't think it's media. :)
[01:56] <DagmarX> I'd agree with you XIal
[01:56] <sudobash> no it's not media it's chipset or ram
[01:56] <philipro> very true
[01:56] <DagmarX> philipro: If memtest86 didn't find anything then it's probably not a RAM problem
[01:57] <philipro> thats what i was thinking
[01:57] <philipro> but like
[01:57] <frosty> do i install ndiswraper from source or from apt-get?
[01:57] <frosty> cant seem to find it
[01:57] <sudobash> check your chipset for compatibility with linux philipro
[01:57] <digitalfiz> hello when i have a opengl program open and im also in gedit if i scroll in gedit it doesnt redraw the area until i click in the area in gedit any way to fix this?
[01:57] <philipro> my hardware isnt ANCIENT....its a 2005 machine. i thought ubuntu was super compatible with a lot of things
[01:57] <Xial> I'm doubting chipset, since I've got it running on a rather old Winterm, and had it running on a significantly newer (year old) machine.
[01:57] <DagmarX> philipro: What's likely happening is some driver is loading that is misdetecting things and throwing a wrench into the works
[01:57] <jmuniz> After running the update manager and restarting, my Nvida driver no longer loads. What are the proper steps to figure out whats going on?
[01:57] <DagmarX> Figuring out *which* driver is misbehaving is another matter
[01:58] <philipro> WHOA WHOA WHOA it got to installing and now its printed a "Corrupted low memory line" about 300 times
[01:58] <frosty> get of your game boy advanced philipro :D
[01:58] <sudobash> almost everything I install Ubuntu on it works amazing! 1 or 2 machines froze after install or wigged out during install
[01:58] <eremite> philipro: I dont know a computer that I cant get linux to run on, and most of them can run Ubuntu if it meets the sys req.
[01:58] <Bob_Dole> what variants of dd are available on ubuntu?
[01:58] <DagmarX> philipro: Can it boot the LiveCD environment successfully?
[01:58] <sudobash> but this is out of 50+ machines
[01:58] <Xial> Dumb Hunch is like a shotgun at close range... :)
[01:58] <DagmarX> philipro: If it *can't* then that's something to work with at least
[01:58] <philipro> by boot livecd environment, you mean can i run ubuntu without installing it?
[01:58] <DagmarX> Oh yes
[01:58] <sudobash> I've lost count on how many Ubuntu machines I've put out there although I try to be a good admin to the most of them
[01:58] <philipro> nope
[01:59] <DagmarX> Okay then that probably rules out the hard drive controller driver at least
[01:59] <Xial> Bob_Dole, I'm not aware of any variants, but I have honestly never looked. Sorry.
[01:59] <beejeebus> just updated from karmic -> lucid
[01:59] <sudobash> philipro I know you didn't let that memtest finish now did you?
[01:59] <beejeebus> mysql won't start
[01:59] <philipro> so basically weve ruled out ram, hard drive controller, chipset, what else could it be?
[01:59] <beejeebus> sudo service mysql start
[01:59] <DagmarX> philipro: It's _possible_ telling the thing to only attempt to use the VGA video driver will sidestep the problem if it's the video driver going berzerk
[01:59] <Bob_Dole> Xial, I think there's one from the DoD that has a status thing, I just can't remember its name
[01:59] <beejeebus> start: Unknown job: mysql
[02:00] <sudobash> no we didn't rule out chipset cause you didn't check the compatibility list
[02:00] <beejeebus> [~]➔sudo start mysql
[02:00] <beejeebus> start: Unknown job: mysql
[02:00] <philipro> i let it finish. it appeared that it was done and had just restarted. but it said "memory test complete" at the bottom
[02:00] <DagmarX> philipro: It loops.
[02:00] <philipro> oh
[02:00] <philipro> i figured
[02:00] <DagmarX> philipro: Do you know what motherboard and video card you have?
[02:00] <beejeebus> same for mysqld or mysql-server
[02:00] <way> 全是英文
[02:01] <eremite> !ch | way
[02:01] <eremite> oops
[02:01] <philipro> i know my video card is an FX5200. my pc also has an integrated graphics unit built in. i can find out the motherboard
[02:01] <sudobash> it could be your pci or agp / pci-e controller or even your memory controller but I think that falls under chipset compatibility
[02:01] <lanoxx> !zh |way
[02:01] <DagmarX> bejeebus: You installed the mysql server, right?
[02:01] <eremite> lanoxx: I shoudl have figured, since chinese is not a language.
[02:01] <sudobash> FX5200 is fine I've had 2 is yours the AGP or PCI?
[02:02] <philipro> #  Chipset type  Intel 915GV Express  that would be it right?
[02:02] <beejeebus> DagMarX: was installed under karmic, did a dist upgrade, now it doesn't work
[02:02] <philipro> its PCI
[02:02] <sudobash> I've run them under Linux many times
[02:02] <DagmarX> bejeebus: OKay so check to make sure it's still there maybe, and that (most importantly) it actually got upgraded
[02:02] <epaphus> hello, what is the default audio driver in UBuntu? ALSA or PulseAudio?
[02:02] <lanoxx> eremite, chinese IS a language, but zh is for zhong guo and that means china
[02:02] <eremite> epaphus: ALSA
[02:02] <beejeebus> DagmarX: thanks
[02:02] <DagmarX> bejeebus: THe package is likely called mysql-server-core-*
[02:02] <sharinnegan> hi everybody
[02:03] <epaphus> eremite, where or how can I force all apps to use PulseAudio??
[02:03] <sudobash> like I said I think it's your chipset is not compatible sorry bro, you could maybe try unplugging your hard drive from data and see if it doesnt scroll "lines of code" anymore
[02:03] <DagmarX> I've been using Slackware for _ages_ so I know how things _work_ but I'm still getting up to speed with how Ubuntu does some things
[02:03] <nin-ja> so... um... I have a laptop that has Ubuntu installed as a parallel OS
[02:03] <nin-ja> it has some serious problems with the boot up
[02:03] <nin-ja> like it will lag with the log in for a minute or so
[02:03] <nin-ja> before i can enter my password etc etc
[02:03] <17SAAAXEA> any one here able to help me out with some php?
[02:03] <Xial> nin-ja, you didn't happen to do an install via wubi, did you?
[02:04] <philipro> heres an update on my install: i got "hardware name: t5010 [model of my pc]" then on the next line it says "memory corruption detected in low memory"
[02:04] <eremite> lanoxx: The chinese people speak several languages such as Mandarin.  None of those languages are called "Chinese" as far as I know.  The alphebet is simplified or traditional chinese, but the langues are not called Chinese, are they?
[02:04] <sharinnegan> i would like to join<EMAIL_ADDRESS>how do I do please ?
[02:04] <KB1JWQ> philipro: t510?
[02:04] <Z-> howdy
[02:04] <sharinnegan> just /join sorry for the flood
[02:04] <eremite> sharinnegan: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[02:04] <Z-> is there a 32 bit ubuntu server iso?
[02:04] <philipro> then, "call trace:" followed by lines such as "check_for_bios_corruption", "worker_thread", and then "---[ end trace ]---"
[02:04] <sharinnegan> thanks eremite
[02:04] <DagmarX> philipro: You can pretty much rule out the FX5200 as a problem, since they're very, very supported by now.  If you can see *both* the Intel video card and the nVidia one in the output of lspci then you probably should go into your BIOS and disable the integrated video chipset
[02:04] <nin-ja> Xial: no i installed through the virtual CD, i did notice one thing though, i only have two partitions for the system, and my swap is only 2.7GB which is half the space as my swap on my desktop
[02:05] <philipro> KBIJWQ: t5010. you probably havent heard of it, its a POS emachines from 05. lol
[02:05] <DagmarX> Multiple video cards of different types don't always play well together in the same machine
[02:05] <sudobash> philipro okay then you need to take out one of the sticks of ram and use the alternate with 256 if you can and swap out each stick to see which one is bad unless you have 1 512 stick
[02:05] <KB1JWQ> philipro: Ah, reason I ask is that I just got a t510 working.  TOok a lot of magic, but I could have talked you through it.
[02:05] <philipro> i believe its one 512 but let me have a look
[02:06] <philipro> KBIJWQ: thanks anyway, hahaha. woulda been nice
[02:06] <DagmarX> philipro: That actually somewhat works in your favor because even though eMachines are kinda cheap, they long ago started using relatively _common_ parts
[02:06] <philipro> dagmarx: then WHY THE HELL WONT IT WORK :(
[02:07] <goddard> I have a clear WiMax modem is that compatable with Ubuntu?
[02:07] <DagmarX> philipro: Well, if it has an integrated video chipset and that's still enabled, I'd blame that
[02:07] <eremite> DagmarX: how did you underline that text?
[02:07] <epaphus> hey guys, how can I make it so all my apps use PulseAudio by default instead of ALSA??
[02:07] <heartlesshero> i have a problem where i have sound on movie player, rythmbox box player. but not in firefox on youtube. im running ubuntu on my pc and just put it on last night, can anyone help me?
[02:07] <philipro> i will try to disable that after i remove a stick of ram if i have two
[02:07] <eremite> epaphus: yes, but ALSA is better most of the time from my understanding.
[02:07] <sudobash> it might be the memory controller isn't compatible but it could be the BIOS setting DagmarX is saying
[02:07] <DagmarX> eremite: What?  I probably just typed _underscores_ at the beginning and end of the word and your client did some fancy magic on it
[02:07] <eremite> DagmarX: _yes_ it did magic for me.  Nevermind.  Carry on.
[02:08] <epaphus> eremite, skype runs on PuseAudio and it sounds 300% better then Ekiga using ALSA.. that is why i ask
[02:08] <DagmarX> sudobash: I've _never_ seen a memory controller fail based on software.  That would break a lot of things if the kernel had to deal with those sorts of issues
[02:08] <eremite> epaphus: I dont use skype, I dislike corporate closed sourace apps.
[02:08] <eremite> source*
[02:08] <DagmarX> phlipro: Depending on a few factors, your machine may be using a dual-channel configuration, which means you might _need_ two sticks in there, but if they're 256Mb sticks the odds of that are pretty low
[02:09] <DagmarX> With one stick alone, it'll eitther work or not and you'll find out _really_ quickly
[02:09] <epaphus> eremite, do you know how to accomplish then setting up so ekiga/ twinkle uses PA?
[02:09] <heartlesshero> i have a problem where i have sound on movie player, rythmbox box player. but not in firefox on youtube. im running ubuntu on my pc and just put it on last night, can anyone help me?
[02:09] <sudobash> if you don't want to mess with your BIOS settings you could always just take out the 5200 and see if it installs but eventually youll want to disable your integrated video card you want your BIOS to try your PCI card first
[02:09] <DagmarX> sudobash: GOod idea
[02:10] <DagmarX> ...although I despise the intel i810 driver
[02:10] <DagmarX> It's not what I'd call reliable or safe
[02:10] <CoCo_Kid594> I only have one problem with my Ubuntu install i'm stuck with 800x600 when it should do 1024x768 it's a ati rage xl on a proliant server.. any ideas? thanks.
[02:10] <DagmarX> There's an intel chipset on this laptop I'm using right now, and the older intel driver _always_ screws up
[02:10] <eremite> epaphus: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Audio_setup
[02:10] <philipro> alright, i just opened it up. it IS 2x256 modules
[02:10] <way> 一点儿也看不明白，再见。
[02:10] <Xial> Snatch one out and try it.
[02:10] <philipro> ill remove one and try booting it
[02:10] <eremite> !zh | way
[02:11] <sudobash> yeah i've seen the same issue's you are talking about with Intel not mixing well with Nvidia cards
[02:11] <DagmarX> CoCo_Kid594, this will probably be an unpopular suggestion but "find some nVidia card and use that".   I need help setting it up
[02:11] <DagmarX> My firewall has an ATI Rage chipset in it, and basically, I've just given up getting the freaking framebuffer driver working with it
[02:11] <eremite> CoCo_Kid594: are you stuck with a native resolution that is too small?
[02:11] <CoCo_Kid594> It's on board..
[02:11] <CoCo_Kid594> yes in kde
[02:12] <epaphus> eremite, that does help much..  starting with the fact they assume ubuntu default is PulseAudio. :)
[02:12] <sudobash> really all you need for a firewall is ssh access I think
[02:12] <CoCo_Kid594> 1024 would be nice.
[02:12] <eremite> http://chvnx.com/post/280205781/change-screen-resolution-in-linux-ubuntu
[02:12] <eremite> CoCo_Kid594: ^ SEE THAT LIBNK
[02:12] <eremite> LINK*
[02:12] <DagmarX> sudobash: Yeah but it's an IBM Profile 4 thing that's basically like a kiosk device.  It's all one piece with an LCD screen on it and stuff
[02:12] <heartlesshero> i have a problem where i have sound on movie player, rythmbox box player. but not in firefox on youtube. im running ubuntu on my pc and just put it on last night, can anyone help me?
[02:12] <dude1> anyone for some help with a dual install of Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 to a USB HDD?
[02:12] <philipro> how do i disable to integrated graphics? I have the primary video adapter set to my PCI 5200 but im not sure how to completely disable the Integrated graphics (unless i just did, in which case its been disabled all the time)
[02:12] <LinuxGuy2009> I currently use Ubuntu 32bit and am wondering if I use HandBrake in a 64bit version of Ubuntu will the encode speeds improve considerably? Or will I see little to no difference? I was reading that OGG encodes for example are like 50% faster which is huge.
[02:12] <sudobash> wow thats a sweet firewall
[02:13] <DagmarX> sudobash: Two low-profile PCI sockets in it, and basically everything I needed to make it a firewall, plus a built in screen.  I *wanted* to put the time and weather forecasts and so on on the screen, but it's hateful hardware
[02:13] <CoCo_Kid594> i know how to change the resolution 800x600 is the highest setting
[02:13] <DagmarX> Hate, hate, hate the video chipset
[02:13] <eremite> LinuxGuy2009: you shoudl not use 64bit applications in a 32bit environment.
[02:13] <sudobash> yeah I feel the hate for ATi
[02:13] <LinuxGuy2009> eremite: That doesnt even come close to what I asked.
[02:14] <CoCo_Kid594> ummm, wonder if you can disable the onboard video in a prolient server? in the bios
[02:14] <DagmarX> sudobash: I bought it off a guy who worked at CNA who was liquidating their old machines.  I got it and two other models for $50-75 apiece so not a bad deal there
[02:14] <sudobash> yeah it sounds sweet
[02:14] <razz1> I am running ubuntu as guest in virtualbox, it does not recognise bluetooth module, any help how to get it working?
[02:14] <DagmarX> CoCo_Kid594: You should either be able to, or it'll shut it off on it's own once the BIOS sees another video card installed in a PCI socket
[02:14] <CoCo_Kid594> if i add a pci video would ubuntu see that as well?
[02:14] <philipro> hey guys
[02:14] <DagmarX> CoCo_Kid594: Yes.
[02:14] <Fopp|Newbie> Hi guys. I have a sony ericson k800i, and I want to send some files from it to my laptop (running 9.10) via bluetooth. But, I can't get either device to recognize the other. please help.
[02:14] <philipro> is there a way i can disregard the network setup while installing ubuntu?
[02:14] <eremite> LinuxGuy2009: you need to learn how to use commas, then.
[02:15] <Xial> heartlesshero, you may want to check your sound settings, and make sure that it hasn't got that muted.
[02:15] <philipro> im using the alternate installer and well, it wont let me do any of the other steps untill i configure the network
[02:15] <CoCo_Kid594> that's worth a try
[02:15] <LinuxGuy2009> eremite: No I think you need some Engrish classes.
[02:15] <DagmarX> philipro: Yeah, you should be able to just skip it or put in bogus values
[02:15] <sudobash> philipro yes you can skip I think
[02:15] <philipro> i cant connect to ethernet, i use a wifi adaptor
[02:15] <eremite> LinuxGuy2009: No. I'm an English major, actually.
[02:15] <DagmarX> philipro: It should be pretty safe to just tell it to use <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[02:15] <heartlesshero> xial: i have everything is all the way up and not muted
[02:15] <sudobash> philipro you might have another headache on your hands with the wifi it just depends
[02:15] <LinuxGuy2009> Im sure you are.
[02:15] <philipro> i try choosing other steps, it brings me back to connect to the network. when i click connect to network, it doesnt even give me any options. just "continue"
[02:16] <DagmarX> ...or tell it to use DHCP and deal with it failing that each time
[02:16] <sudobash> it's worth getting everything working though I think
[02:16] <sudobash> Im running 7 right now and I really miss Ubuntu Windows just makes me want to pull my hair out all the time
[02:16] <philipro> lol, thats what i keep telling myself
[02:17] <philipro> the million dollar question though, is: will it still be worth it to run ubuntu with 256mb ram? im new to the linux game but if i could just run xp with 512mb without the headaches it may be worth it to me
[02:17] <DagmarX> sudobash: I am disappointed in how long 7 has been screwing up asynchronous explorer view updates.  Delete five files and half the time I have to tell it to refresh that window before they _actually_ disappear
[02:17] <dude1> Anyone for some help on a Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 dual install to an external USB HDD?
[02:17] <sudobash> yea but there is a lot more wrong with it than that
[02:17] <DagmarX> philipro: You won't like using a graphical display with only 256Mb of RAM.  The thing will be in swap almost immediately
[02:18] <sudobash> so wait philipro you took out a stick of ram and it worked?
[02:18] <philipro> what does that mean
[02:18] <sudobash> or did you take out the 5200 and it worked?
[02:18] <Xial> philipro, I ended up going with xubuntu at that point, but you might just need another stick of memory if my Dumb Hunch got you going. :)
[02:18] <philipro> im not sure if it worked. i cant get past this install block about configuring the network.
[02:18] <DagmarX> It means you should take the stick that worked out, and put the one you removed back in and see if it still works
[02:18] <philipro> Lol at the dumb hunch. we shall see -_-
[02:19] <sudobash> yeah it prolly worked
[02:19] <DagmarX> If the graphical display came up with only one stick in... man...
[02:19]  * DagmarX thinks carefully
[02:19] <philipro> not the graphical display
[02:19] <philipro> im using the alternate installer
[02:19] <DagmarX> Ah
[02:19] <Xial> DagmarX, no, he switched to the alt install disc about 17 minutes ago.
[02:19] <sudobash> he is on the alternate
[02:19] <philipro> i did get relatively close to this without even removing ram the first time
[02:19] <DagmarX> The alternate installer is text-only?
[02:19] <DagmarX> I've never used it
[02:19] <sudobash> yeah
[02:19] <philipro> im creating a flash drive of the original 9.10 desktop installer
[02:19] <sudobash> it runs on 192 ram I think
[02:19] <LMAlt1> can someone IM me to help with getting sound to my flat screen.  Here is what i have graphics card (GeForce 8400 GS), ubuntu (9.10), tv (vizio va320e). currently hooked up dvi to hdmi.
[02:19] <philipro> im going to tsee if that works
[02:20] <DagmarX> I'm either just slapping buttons on the graphical installer and lolling my way through things or I'm installing over the network manually
[02:20] <hacked> hello
[02:20] <philipro> must be nice dagmar :)
[02:20] <Xial> Correct me when I'm wrong, but DVI doesn't carry audio, so the chain between DVI to HDMI would be the point of failure, yes?
[02:20] <DagmarX> philipro: LIke I said, I've been at this a *long* time
[02:20] <DagmarX> Xial: You would be correct
[02:20] <sudobash> netboot is the way, openbsd again becomes useful with a tftp server
[02:21] <hacked> I have a question: what if you boot from a USB but you don't have internet access and therefore can't get the driver to get internet?
[02:21] <sudobash> but really you could do it from anything
[02:21] <DagmarX> DVI doesn't do audio, so one would have to convince the machine to not even try to send audio over the HDMI interface and instead use line out
[02:21] <Fopp|Newbie> Hi guys. I have a sony ericson k800i, and I want to send some files from it to my laptop (running 9.10) via bluetooth. But, I can't get either device to recognize the other. please help.
[02:21] <cbx> I just updated ubuntu and now have 2.1mb left on /boot . Can I delete the older images and initrd's?
[02:21] <anderer> I can't re-enable Compiz, after I deleted one Panel.
[02:21] <DagmarX> cbx: Yes
[02:22] <Xial> hacked, the only time I ever needed to be able to get online for a driver was for some oddball unsupported wlan adapter, but the NIC still worked. In my case, I plugged in a cable. Kept going.
[02:22] <sudobash> hacked that sounds like a windows issue
[02:22] <philipro> i know im the complete noob here, but i do have a little knowledge about this HDMI stuff. nvidia drivers with hdmi out can configure to output through hdmi with audio either disabled or enabled. if you choose disabled you can output audio from a headphone or lineout jack
[02:23] <Xial> ooh. ipv6.
[02:23] <DagmarX> hacked: Depends on which thing you need as to what would be the easiest solution.  _Generally_ the kernel has all the drivers for everything ready to go in the initrd, but if it's a wireless card that requires a firmware, you may have to manually grab that firmware and copy it into the filesystem through some other means
[02:24] <philipro> same problem with the desktop 9.10 boot from flash drive with one stick of memory: "
[02:24] <philipro> ? do_page_fault+0x0/0x380
[02:24] <philipro> error_code+0x73/0x80
[02:24] <hacked> well, sudobash / Xial, I'm wondering because on my Dell Latitude I had to plug in and do some fancy command scheme stuff (and I'm a noob) to get the driver installed
[02:24] <DagmarX> philipro: So basically the graphical subsystem is just blowing up in your face then?
[02:24] <DagmarX> philipro: What does the log show it doing _just above_ that tho
[02:24] <DagmarX> Usually the last thing that was loaded is what broke
[02:24] <Xial> Mmmm. Latitudes. C, D, E series, XT/XT2, Z600, 2100, or...?
[02:25] <cbx> DagmarX, I'll be deleting all files that end in <IP_ADDRESS> (initrd, vmlinuz, system map, config, vmcoreinfo) . Am I right ? (i'm using <IP_ADDRESS>) right now
[02:25] <hacked> I'm thinking if I wanted to actually use a bootable USB on a computer I've never used, would the internet work likely?
[02:25] <philipro> i have not even made it to the GUI yet. i get several lines of code and never make it to the graphical interface
[02:25] <DagmarX> cbx: SHould be safe.  Grub should even clue into the fact that you've removed them and take them out of the boot menu
[02:25] <sudobash> philipro what happened to the cd installer you had going?
[02:25] <DagmarX> philipro: Okay so that would _really_ be inidicative that the video drivers are failing horribly
[02:25] <Xial> hacked, based on the xubuntu flash drive I carry around, I'd wager yes, it should work on most hardware it meets with little trouble.
[02:26] <philipro> i could not get past the "configure the network" step
[02:26] <philipro> if you could help me bypass it then i might be able to get the cd working
[02:26] <philipro> but i figured in the meantime id try the flashdrive again
[02:26] <vonnick> Does Jockey pick up drivers for HD 5XXX cards yet?
[02:26] <hacked> xial, so in other words most wlan cards don't need silly drivers
[02:26] <DagmarX> philipro: can you get a command line of any sort by hook or crook and run lspci?
[02:26] <philipro> what does that mean?
[02:26] <Xial> Like DagmarX mentioned, the only facepunch could come from some oddball wlan device (BROADCOM ARGH) or wwan device (though I think that's been handled as of 9.04?).
[02:26] <DagmarX> philipro: Getting a bash prompt.  Usually I just slap in a Slackware CD for that, but I've never tried with the ubuntu CD
[02:27] <philipro> im sorry but i have no idea what youre talking about -_-
[02:27] <vonnick> ubuntu livecd terminal works just fine
[02:27] <DagmarX> philipro: Like I mentioned earlier, the most common failures come from having two different video cards active in the machine at once
[02:27] <sudobash> yeah I can help you get past the network wasn't there a place to set Static IP's?
[02:28] <DagmarX> philipro: `lspci` lists out all the PCI devices the kernel sees on the PCI bus.  If you see two VGA controllers, it'll be time to see if youc an go into the BIOS and turn the integrated video off
[02:28] <philipro> there was not a place. it was basically just "continue" or try another step. and trying any other steps just bounced me back to "configure the network"
[02:28] <philipro> how do i see this "lcpsci"?
[02:28] <DagmarX> philipro: Lie to that step if you want.  <IP_ADDRESS> is a non-internet-routable IP address that is perfectly valid and will make that bit happy and you can go back and put in "real" values or not later
[02:29] <DagmarX> philipro: `lspci` is a command line utility you run from a bash prompt
[02:29] <philipro> i understand that but it gives me no chance to input anything
[02:29] <hacked> thx :)
[02:29] <DagmarX> It *might* need to be stated as /sbin/lspci
[02:29] <sudobash> yeah you might get a menu at the beginning to drop to a prompt
[02:29] <philipro> wait
[02:29] <sudobash> it might be called a shell or bash prompt or something
[02:29] <DagmarX> philipro: Oh so wait, you have no "plain" ethernet in the machine?
[02:29] <philipro> let me get this straight
[02:30] <magicjoe> can i get some help with playing flash in firefox 3.5.8?
[02:30] <philipro> i cannot access lspci from the bios?
[02:30] <philipro> also, no i cannot get ethernet to this pc. its wifi
[02:30] <DagmarX> No, lspci and the BIOS have nothing to do with each other
[02:30] <DagmarX> Hmm... THat could be an issue with the alternate installer if it requires a network config and you don't have a network device for it to configure
[02:30] <eremite> magicjoe: for to the adobe website and install the file they make you donwload.
[02:31] <Fopp|Newbie> Hi guys. I have a sony ericson k800i, and I want to send some files from it to my laptop (running 9.10) via bluetooth. But, I can't get either device to recognize the other. please help.
[02:31] <magicjoe> oh......sorry im on ppc. is that the problem?
[02:31] <eremite> magicjoe: or you can open Synaptic and search for  adobe.
[02:31] <magicjoe> ill try that room
[02:31] <sudobash> can you find a NIC card somewhere in another pc somewhere and pop it in philipro?
[02:31] <eremite> magicjoe: this is a a GNU/Linux Ubuntu channel, not a Windos channel.
[02:32] <magicjoe> yeah. im on ubuntu karmic
[02:32] <philipro> its not that i dont have an ethernet port, i just have nowhere to plug it in around here :(
[02:32] <eremite> I cannot help you with your virus named Windows.
[02:32] <magicjoe> but power pc
[02:32] <sudobash> go away eremite
[02:32] <DagmarX> philipro: You said you had an eMachine t5010?
[02:32] <philipro> yes
[02:33] <sudobash> yay i'm glad someone looked it up! Way to not be lazy DagmarX
[02:33] <DagmarX> Oh, okay whether or not you have a cable shouldn't affect whether or not you can _just make up_ an IP address for it to use
[02:33] <eremite> sudobash: do you work for Microsoft?
[02:33] <DagmarX> sudobash: I'm looking up the specs now and it's apparently got an Intel 915GV in it alright.  Digging a bit now to see if there's some way to to force that driver to be less aggressive
[02:34] <sudobash> they did offer me a job but I told them I was a huge advocate for Open Source technology and they didn't send me anything back
[02:34] <philipro> dagmar, i totally understand what youre saying. i would try <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> but the installer gives me no room to input an ip anywhere. its all supposed to be configured automatically
[02:34] <philipro> i thought i mentioned the chipset?
[02:34] <eremite>  I would never suggest anyone install viruses such as Windows.
[02:34] <DagmarX> philipro: It shouldn't not let you put something in unless you told it to use DHCP for that interface.  It *should* be giving you the option to enter a static IP assignment
[02:34] <hmw> anderer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[02:34] <DagmarX> I'm rather hoping I can find a way to get you past the GUI blowup issue'
[02:34] <philipro> i never even was given the chance to choose dhcp or static
[02:35] <anderer> Thanks soo much, hmw
[02:36] <DagmarX> philipro: Okay so there might well be some bugs left in the alternate installer then since so few people use it
[02:36] <philipro> im stuck here again. "installation step failed. you can try to run the failing item aqgain from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. the failing step is: configure the network" but all i can press is continue. i also try clicking another step and it sends me back to the network step
[02:36] <DagmarX> philipro: I hate to ask this again, but did you have a second video card installed in the machine?
[02:36] <DagmarX> Intel thinks the 915GV is supported by their driver
[02:36] <philipro> by second if you mean other then integrated graphics, then yes i have an fx5200
[02:37] <hexdump> Hi guys I'm having a problem here maybe somebody can't point me in the right direction
[02:37] <hexdump> Unable to connect : java.security.AccessControlException : access denied (java.net.SocketPermission irc.freenode.net resolve)
[02:37] <DagmarX> Okay, so have you tried disabling the onboard video chipset in the BIOS?  If you're planning on using the nVidia card for video output you don't need the intel video chip active
[02:37] <DagmarX> ...and it's likely where things are going awry
[02:38] <DagmarX> The FX5200 should "just work"
[02:38] <philipro> well
[02:38] <philipro> i set the video adapter to the PCI card which IS the 5200
[02:38] <philipro> but im not sure if that completely disabled the integrated graphics
[02:38] <nhak> what is the command for suspend ?
[02:38] <philipro> im not sure how to do that exactly
[02:39] <DagmarX> philipro: COld boot the machine and smack F1 or DEL repeatedly (depending on if the bootup screen gives you that hint) until you get into BIOS setup
[02:39] <sudobash> take out your 5200, make the system 512 again and try the original cd you tried that loaded up the desktop and everything the Live CD
[02:39] <DagmarX> Maybe F2
[02:39] <sudobash> it could even be f12 but whatever it is he knows how to get in BIOS
[02:40] <philipro> i know how to get to the bios. that is how i set the PCI card to primary. but im not just sure how to disable integrated completely
[02:40] <DagmarX> philipro: Don't change anything in the BIOS that doesnt' say something like "Integrated video", but beyond that you shouold be able to wander around in the BIOS menus without breaking anything so long as you change nothing you don't understand
[02:40] <DagmarX> philipro: Hmm... The thing should have disabled the integrated chipset if you did that
[02:40] <sudobash> yeah it was already set to that he said
[02:40] <philipro> i did that before i even came into the channel today :/
[02:41] <DagmarX> philipro: Is that the *only* other card you installed in the machine?
[02:41] <sudobash> take out your 5200 make put the ram back to 512 and boot up the Ubuntu Desktop CD not the Alternate
[02:41] <brian__> why don't they have safe graphics mode anymore?
[02:41] <DagmarX> Sometimes on a motherboard with AGP or PCI-E slots the PCI slot closest to it uses shared resources and even though you can stick something in both physically, they will *not* work properly like that
[02:41] <Ubee> How do I clean out my computer with old files that are on it. I am trying to download the Ubuntu 10.4 beta and am being told that I cannnot do it because of no availabe disc space
[02:42] <philipro> it is the only other graphics card in the machine
[02:42] <DagmarX> sudobash has a good idea there.  IF the integrated video chipset works by itself, that would at least let you get things installed
[02:42] <philipro> okay. ill try that
[02:42] <sudobash> philipro he is saying is there a card next to the 5200?
[02:42] <GoldShadow> when i start download with bittorrent i get full CPU utilisation and my pc work slow
[02:42] <philipro> theres a wifi card next to the 5200
[02:42] <DagmarX> GoldSHadow: Torrents are both CPU and network-intensive
[02:42] <sudobash> take out the wifi card also
[02:42] <philipro> ok
[02:42] <sudobash> for now
[02:42] <philipro> ok
[02:43] <DagmarX> philipro: ...or move the video card to a different PCI slot.  If you can't do that then just take the second video card out and see if you can make things go that wya
[02:43] <sudobash> DagmarX said the wifi card might be sharing some memory with the video card or something
[02:43] <Ubee> Question:
[02:43] <DagmarX> I have yet to find an illustration of hte motherboard in that
[02:43] <Ubee> Question:
[02:43] <DagmarX> sudobash: Usually it's interrupt and addresses
[02:43] <cain22> answer
[02:43] <GoldShadow> so what i have to do ??
[02:44] <DagmarX> I felt a right git last month when I started upgrading my MythTV box and I stuck a firewire card in the PCI slot next to the AGP port and then wondered aloud why it didn't work
[02:44] <DagmarX> heh
[02:44] <cain22> wifi and linux hardly ever go together...
[02:44] <sudobash> GoldShadow are you using Ubuntu?
[02:44] <philipro> brb need screwdriver
[02:44] <Ubee> Question: How do I remove old files on my computer. My computer says that files are taking up too much space.
[02:44] <GoldShadow> yes
[02:44] <DagmarX> Ubee: Delete files you no longer need or buy a bigger hard drive
[02:44] <cain22> delete them
[02:44] <Fopp|Newbie> Hi guys. I have a sony ericson k800i, and I want to send some files from it to my laptop (running 9.10) via bluetooth. But, I can't get either device to recognize the other. please help.
[02:45] <sudobash> GoldShadow are you using Transmission BT?
[02:45] <cain22> how big is your hd?
[02:45] <brian__> question
[02:45] <Ubee> How do I delete?
[02:45] <sudobash> Goldshadow: sudo apt-get install dulge
[02:45] <cain22> right click, then delete
[02:45] <sudobash> use deluge as your bt client and see if that works...
[02:45] <DagmarX> Ubee: If you're using the graphical thing, right click and delete, otherwise the command line thing is just `rm filename`
[02:45] <GoldShadow> no qbittorrent v2.1.6
[02:46] <DagmarX> Ubee: Anything sitting around in /tmp (and files just LOVE to lurk there) can safely be nuked
[02:46] <brian__> question
[02:46] <sudobash> never heard of it but it sounds likd a bt client made with some scripting language, maybe use something else?
[02:46] <DagmarX> Ubee: Well, anything that's filename doesn't start with a dot can be safely nuked.
[02:46] <Ubee> I believe that my harddrvie is full and want to clean it out so that I can download Ubuntu Beta 10.4
[02:47] <Ubee> How can I clean my Harddrive?
[02:47] <DagmarX> Ubee: By deleting old files
[02:47] <cain22> Ubee: how old is your pc?
[02:47] <DagmarX> Ubee: From a terminal, type `df -h` and it should tell you something somewhat useful about how much space you have left
[02:47] <sille777> Ubee: Soap and water not recommended!
[02:48] <brian__> whats the difference between Lubuntu and Ubuntu?
[02:48] <brian__> besides Lxde
[02:48] <philipro> okay. just removed wifi and 5200. shouldnt i use the original install since i cant get around the network adapter problem?
[02:48] <cur1> screen brightness? how can I brighten my laptop's screen? the keybindings do not work
[02:48] <Ubee> I typed df-h and nothing happened!!
[02:48] <DagmarX> brian: The "lubuntu" site probably actually teslls
[02:49] <DagmarX> philipro: Yes it's worth a try to start the install and just pretend none of the previous problems existed
[02:49] <brian__> They say there the same, but I cant boot beta Ubuntu
[02:49] <vicsar> @Brian DagmarX is right but you can also read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[02:49] <DagmarX> Ubee: There needs to be a space between "df" and "-h"
[02:49] <brian__> but I can Lubuntu
[02:49] <Chad> how can i check and see which programs are running at startup?
[02:49] <GoldShadow> sudo apt-get install dulge don't work
[02:49] <pinoyoragon> how do i change back to default my /etc/pam.d configuration. I cannot login now thru ssh. anyone?
[02:49] <brian__> its all Lucid repositories though
[02:49] <hacker_kid> flash is flickering on online flash games, is there anyway to fix this
[02:49] <DagmarX> Without the -h it'll tell you the same stuff, but with much longer numbers instead of the "human-friendly" ones
[02:50] <vicsar> @Brian also read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[02:50] <denis_> hey, folks! i love lucid
[02:50] <philipro> oh my god
[02:50] <Sykoknot> I am new to Linux, I have Xubuntu 9.10. What are some good tweaks/modifications I should make?
[02:50] <Ubee> my use is at 100%
[02:50] <philipro> i actually made it to the partitioning step
[02:50] <DagmarX> pinoyoragon: Undo the changes you made to the PAM configuration files?
[02:50] <Chad> how can i check and see which programs are running at startup?
[02:50] <KB1JWQ> YAY!
[02:50] <duro_> ps
[02:50] <Ubee> How do I empty out my harddrive?
[02:50] <Emanon> gratz denis_
[02:50] <DagmarX> philipro: That's good news
[02:50] <duro_> ps ax
[02:50] <DagmarX> Ubee: You don't want to empty the whole thing
[02:50] <cain22> how do you have a use of 100%
[02:51] <pinoyoragon> DagmarX: i reconfigured them days ago and i'm not quite sure which of them needs to be reverted
[02:51] <Fopp|Newbie> Hi guys. I have a sony ericson k800i, and I want to send some files from it to my laptop (running 9.10) via bluetooth. But, I can't get either device to recognize the other. please help.
[02:51] <philipro> i think it just installed
[02:51] <philipro> or is installing
[02:51] <Chad> how can i check and see which programs are running at startup?
[02:51] <philipro> holy shit
[02:51] <FloodBot2> philipro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <Chad> how can i check and see which programs are running at startup in the cli?
[02:51] <sudobash> what did you end up doing philipro?
[02:51] <GoldShadow> sudobash : i use qbittorrent v2.1.6
[02:51] <DagmarX> Ubee: In a terminal, cd to /tmp and type `du -sh .`  That will tell you how much space is being consumed by /tmp
[02:51] <anderer> :)
[02:51] <Ubee> what should I do to know what else is on my computer. I believe that I tried installing Ubuntu a number of time and may have left other versions on my computer.
[02:51] <cain22> init.d file tells which programs are on at start up
[02:51] <anderer> quit
[02:51] <DagmarX> Ubee: It is _generally_ the place where a lot of leftover stuff gets lost track of
[02:52] <philipro> i removed the graphics card as well as the wifi card
[02:52] <DagmarX> Ubee: Nothing in /tmp should prevent the machine from rebooting if you erase it
[02:52] <sudobash> :-)
[02:52] <Chad> thank you cain22
[02:52] <philipro> i'd really like to use the graphics card, and im sure it'll work since you guys have used it before
[02:52] <philipro> i'll just have to find a way to get my wifi adaptor up and running on ubuntu
[02:52] <NinoScript> Sykoknot: Did you install the xubuntu restricted extras?
[02:52] <Emanon> also might try clearing the installed package cache since you dont need the debs after they're done installing
[02:52] <DagmarX> philipro: Once you have a full install, diagnosing what's going wrong when you change the hardware becomes a lot easier
[02:52] <zus> here is the short version: 2 HDD my main is a 40gig with kubuntu my other is a 250gig with ubuntu.  after rearranging my drives and boot sequence in bios. i boot  with a kubuntu logo but log into my ubuntu drive.... i can mount the 40gig but i need to boot in to the 40 and mount the 250. can some one help please
[02:52] <denis_> everything works in lucid out-of-the-box, unlike other releases! :) now i only have several issues
[02:52] <sudobash> indeed
[02:53] <sudobash> glad to see we got you installed at least
[02:53] <philipro> yes
[02:53] <philipro> thank you for so much for your guys' help
[02:53] <ProjectXSorrow> does anybody know how to remote from windows into ubuntu on seperate networks
[02:53] <DagmarX> Ubee: If you've just downloaded too much stuff into /home/username, you'll be needing to nuke files there (or copy them to something else like a thumbdrive and then delete them)
[02:53] <denis_> does anybody have an issue with skype - it won't recognize a webcam, which works through 'mplayer tv://', though
[02:53] <DagmarX> ProjectXSorrow: PuTTY is a very capable ssh client for WIndows
[02:54] <sudobash> stay with us philipro well help you I used to have 2 5200's
[02:54] <DagmarX> ProjectXSorrow: It'll get you logged into a terminal on the remote Linux machine with little problem
[02:54] <philipro> i most definitely will
[02:54] <etzerd> hello all
[02:54] <sudobash> I loved both of those cards
[02:54] <etzerd> where can I download libdvdcss?
[02:54] <philipro> haha, it was the best pci graphics card i could find
[02:54] <ProjectXSorrow> DadmarX:okay putty gotcha it will allow me to remote from my house to my computer at work
[02:55] <sudobash> one got hit by an ionic charge through svideo to a tv, I saw it come down the line when I was smoking a square
[02:55] <philipro> back when i thought i was gonna be a pc gamer. then i got hooked onto xbox 360 >_<
[02:55] <ProjectXSorrow> DadmarX:okay run me threw it
[02:55] <philipro> LOL
[02:55] <Fopp|Newbie> Hi guys. I have a sony ericson k800i, and I want to send some files from it to my laptop (running 9.10) via bluetooth. But, I can't get either device to recognize the other. please help.
[02:55] <ProjectXSorrow> DadmarX:in private channel if you dont mind
[02:55] <Ubee> How do I get other versions of ubuntu off of my computer. I just want to clean out my harddrive so that I can download Ubuntu 10.4
[02:55] <etzerd> where can I download libdvdcss?
[02:56] <zus> etzerd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu try here
[02:56] <DagmarX> ProjectXSorrow: Sorry I don't generally do privmsgs.  You'd be amazed how many people just lurk until they see _their_ question asked and answered, and it avoids the problems of what malicious things someone might tell you in private when there's no one around to stop them
[02:57] <KB1JWQ> !pm
[02:57] <pinoyoragon> How do i reinstall PAM in ubuntu
[02:57] <casemods> I have tried 2 wifi cards with ubuntu and both don't seem to work. do I need to install them manually?
[02:57] <Emanon> i dont btw
[02:57] <cain22> what type of cards?
[02:57] <ProjectXSorrow> DadmarX:understandable
[02:57] <DagmarX> Ubee: du -sh $HOME should tell you how much space your home directory is using.  Erasing the *entire* hard drive will render you unable to boot or continue running, but your home directory and /tmp are the two places you can nuke files willy-nilly
[02:57] <30BAAD7EM> i have a bluetooth mouse, i couldn't make it work, can anyone help ?
[02:57] <casemods> zyxel and us robitics
[02:57] <Ashok> what is PAM
[02:57] <cain22> broadcom?
[02:57] <ProjectXSorrow> DadmarX:im getting putty now
[02:58] <Ubee> Question: How do I clean out my harddrive?
[02:58] <casemods> cain22: zyxel and us robotics
[02:58] <Warlord> Hi, I was wondering if this is what ubuntu 10.04 gonna look like: http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p4CFnHsRBapVWQUSJmWfwrB6l-QgJk5Ahfm_cYkZA6f6haIYW_EX5xyqcyRvMBNrdjOJLH93ypkj1UJJqWC8jBw/image%5B3%5D.png
[02:58] <cain22> don't they have a compatability list for ubuntu
[02:58] <cain22> i know they did for netbooks...
[02:59] <casemods> well shouldn't it either work or not work?
[02:59] <Warlord> hm
[02:59] <sille777> for Broadcom Wireless cards this site is what got me working: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[02:59] <DagmarX> pinoyoragon: There's got to be a way to tell apt-get to reinstall the PAM packages and restore the default PAM configuration files but I don't know it off the top of my head
[02:59] <zus> Ubee,  systems>administration> computer janitor is where i'd try
[02:59] <Jaunty> oi
[02:59] <cain22> i hate broadcom
[02:59] <Aayush> how to install bluetooth mouse in ubuntu 9.04
[02:59] <cain22> my old laptop would never work with linux
[02:59] <snxs> how can i cut files  files selecting them by there extension? (terminal)
[02:59] <snxs> 1 files *
[02:59] <Fopp|Newbie> Hi guys. I have a sony ericson k800i, and I want to send some files from it to my laptop (running 9.10) via bluetooth. But, I can't get either device to recognize the other. please help.
[03:00] <DagmarX> snxs: *.extention should do it
[03:00] <casemods> so do I have to just try each card from the store until i find a working one?
[03:00] <Emanon> im really looking forward to 10.04 myself but i only use beta releases in virtualization hehe
[03:00] <DagmarX> casemods: Better to look online for success stories and then try to buy one of those
[03:00] <snxs> duh i was doing it .*
[03:00] <cain22> no, im sure theres a site for that
[03:00] <cain22> google your cards with ubuntu, see that it says
[03:00] <Aayush> hi guys, can anyone help me to install bluetooth mouse in ubuntu 9.04 , i already spent couple of hours
[03:01] <snxs> thank you Dagmarx
[03:01] <DagmarX> casemods: Compatibility with Linux and wireless is still somewhat hit-or-miss
[03:01] <Ashok>  /join #java
[03:01] <epaphus> hey guys.. iam trying to configure my system to use PA as default.. specially twinkle softphone.. can anybody look at this pacmd list-clients and tell me if in fact iam using PA or ALSA? http://www.pastebin.com/HzhzyDZV
[03:01] <Emanon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/ maybe?
[03:01] <zus> Fopp|Newbie,  i dont know how to set up the bluetooth i got lucky when i plugged my adapter in and it was all set. but try to look in the setting on the computer and make sure it is set to discoverable. beyond that i dont know im sorry.
[03:02] <DagmarX> Bluetooth is still pretty un-simple under Linux.  :/
[03:02] <Emanon> generally your pretty safe with logitech devices ive never had one NOT work at least with basic functionality for me
[03:02] <Emanon> although sometimes media keys are hit or miss
[03:02] <sunkoo> 哈
[03:02] <cain22> my blue tooth mouse was plug and play on my other laptop...
[03:02] <Fopp|Newbie> hmm, how do I make sure it's discoverable? I go System > prefs > bluetooth but see no such option...
[03:03] <underdev> the best way i've found to handle wireless us to find the cheapest belkin or brand "X" on newegg
[03:03] <DagmarX> pinoyoragon: I *think* using apt-get purge to remove the PAM stuff (which nukes configuration files) and then reinstalling them will work, but if something goes wrong in the middle of that you *won't* be logging in much again, and you will NEED to avoid having to reauthenticate AT ALL during that process
[03:03] <ProjectXSorrow> DadmarX:does putty do a gui or only shell
[03:03] <kinja-sheep> Fopp|Newbie: Try "bluetooth-wizard" in the terminal.
[03:03] <DagmarX> ProjectXSorrow: PuTTY is basically terminal-only
[03:03] <philipro> still waiting for ubuntu to finish installing, but i think it finally worked!
[03:03] <ProjectXSorrow> DadmarX:do youknow one that does gui
[03:04] <DagmarX> ProjectXSorrow: If you want graphical, you'll need VNC and vncserver installed and configured on the LInux machine (simplest route)
[03:04] <pinoyoragon> Dagmarz
[03:04] <ProjectXSorrow> DadmarX:damnit alright
[03:04] <Fopp|Newbie> nope, that brought up nothing. darn.
[03:04] <DagmarX> While it's possible to use Cygwin/X under Windows it's FAR from easy
[03:04] <pinoyoragon> DagmarX: right now i can still use apt-get but i have to hurry, i need to find the correct package name
[03:05] <Aayush> hi guys, can anyone help me to install bluetooth mouse in ubuntu 9.04 , i already spent couple of hours
[03:05] <lucidupgrade> just upgraded from karmic-->lucid
[03:05] <KB1JWQ> !bluetooth | Aayush
[03:05] <lucidupgrade> upon reboot, no mouse or keyboard response
[03:05] <lucidupgrade> is it something to do with HAL? any pointers?
[03:05] <helluvaCSmajor> i am trying to record audio from a microphone and the recording has static, how do i fix this?
[03:05] <amnesia> how bout that
[03:05] <amnesia> maybe i should switch from slackware to ubuntu
[03:05] <kinja-sheep> Aayush: Any particular reason why you are on 9.04? ;3
[03:05] <lucidupgrade> i'm in a live cd session on the machine now
[03:05] <amnesia> ..
[03:06] <running_rabbit07> the guy already said he spent hours trying to fix his/her bluetooth
[03:06] <amnesia> does ubuntu have the built in LTSP ?
[03:06] <underdev> lucidupgrade: just put your mouse on the left, with the left button remapped to the right, and it will be fine :)
[03:06] <DagmarX> pinoyoragon: I have pretty much zero skills with the debian package manager so I've got nothing useful to tell you about finding out the package name
[03:07] <underdev> that's how lucid works, right?
[03:07] <lucidupgrade> how do i change the grub menu in version 2?
[03:07] <Trek> !lucid | underdev
[03:07] <lucidupgrade> so i can try booting into an old kernel
[03:07] <running_rabbit07> lucidupgrade: go to the forums and find any post by iRock, the command to fix the issue is on his posts
[03:08] <lucidupgrade> running_rabbit07: thanks
[03:08] <Aayush> kinja-sheep, i am using hp dv4t, i tried couple of times installing ubuntu 9.10 but every times it gives one or the other problem so ...
[03:08] <DagmarX> amnesia: THe LTSP stuff is mainly kernelspace, it's just a matter of finding where it's hiding and kicking it into gear
[03:08] <razumikhin> Anyone know why the 9.10 PowerPC installer CD seems to be too big to fit on a 700MB CD-R?
[03:08] <amnesia> yea i been using slackware for about 8 years
[03:08] <kinja-sheep> Aayush: What issues are you having with Bluetooth? Details are the key.
[03:09] <DagmarX> razumikhin: Either you have a corrupted download or you have a 650Mb blank CD.
[03:09] <running_rabbit07> lucidupgrade: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1423076
[03:09] <DagmarX> They're not _all_ 700Mb
[03:09] <amnesia> an its hard to find support for um 'taboo' stuff
[03:09] <amnesia> like ltsp
[03:09] <KB1JWQ> !lucid | running_rabbit07
[03:09] <helluvaCSmajor> how do i reduce amount of static while recording audio?
[03:09] <amnesia> atleast you guys are real people
[03:09] <amnesia> lol
[03:09] <DagmarX> amnesia: Oh wait, you mean LInux Terminal Server Project?
[03:10] <amnesia> yea
[03:10] <DagmarX> helluvaCSmajor: Maybe turn down the gain?
[03:10] <helluvaCSmajor> where?
[03:10] <DagmarX> amnesia: Oh I thought you were talking about layer two service proxies
[03:10] <DagmarX> heh
[03:10] <helluvaCSmajor> i am using Gnome ALSA mixer
[03:10] <amnesia> no
[03:10] <DagmarX> ...although I don't see how LTSP is "taboo"
[03:10] <DagmarX> It's just weird
[03:10] <amnesia> it is on slackware
[03:10] <epaphus> hey guys.. iam trying to configure my system to use PA as default.. specially twinkle softphone.. can anybody look at this pacmd list-clients and tell me if in fact iam using PA or ALSA? http://www.pastebin.com/HzhzyDZV
[03:10] <amnesia> considering i ask anybody involved with it they run the other way
[03:11] <DagmarX> amnesia: THat's got more to do with Slackware admins being expected to do a lot of research before doing anything advanced as that
[03:11] <afmlegend> if I wanted to install a version libqt4-core higher than 4.6
[03:11] <afmlegend> how would i do that?
[03:11] <DagmarX> I can see why they'd run away screaming
[03:11] <masu3701_> is there a channel for career ?
[03:11] <nytek_> i ran a complete 9.10 update and upon the restart ubuntu booted up with saying i need to reconfigure my display settings. any ideas?
[03:12] <SuperMiguel> is tightvncserver faster thatn vnc4server?
[03:12] <amnesia> yea if I didn't have ldap / php / httpd / nfs / squid, and my ha linux cluster services set up on it i'd ditch it an use something more supported
[03:12] <amnesia> ;[
[03:12] <amnesia> grid lock
[03:12] <DagmarX> Drat.  pinoy's no longer here nad I just found out about dpkg --get-selections
[03:13] <DagmarX> nytek: So what happened when you tried to reconfigure the video settings?
[03:13] <helluvaCSmajor> anyone else know of a way to reduce the static when recording audio?
[03:13] <sudobash> SuperMiguel xtightvncserver will start up a seperate X server and won't attach to the user's X so essentially you will have your own desktop sorta
[03:13] <amnesia> I was reading edubuntu has 5.2 ltsp native
[03:13] <amnesia> to the effect
[03:14] <SuperMiguel> sudobash, speed wise? same?
[03:14] <amnesia> curious to know how it compares
[03:14] <DagmarX> helluvaCSmajor: Reduce the gain, buy a better microphone, or filter the recorded audio after the fact
[03:14] <ubutom> SuperMiguel, maybe you wanna try NxNomachine
[03:14] <SuperMiguel> ubutom, freenx?
[03:14] <sudobash> probably about the same tightvnc tries to be more secure
[03:15] <helluvaCSmajor> it is so much static that it seems like something is wrong with audio settings, i hear it in pidgin as well
[03:15] <ubutom> SuperMiguel, don't know freenx, but once set up I was content with Nomachine
[03:15] <dedi> hi. is there a alternative for partimage? want to copy a partition over the network to a image file
[03:15] <DagmarX> helluvaCSmajor; It's "listening" to the right microphone device, right?
[03:15] <Arethius> Hey guys, I have a question on how possible/easy an idea I have is and wanted some advice
[03:15] <helluvaCSmajor> yes, i hear the recorded voice, but also hear lots of static
[03:15] <DagmarX> helluvaCSmajor: ...as in you're at least hearing *some* of what you should and not just complete noise
[03:15] <DagmarX> Hmm...
[03:16] <helluvaCSmajor> pidgin does this with its sounds, but youtube videos do not
[03:16] <frosty> whats a good "cli" terminal mp3 player?
[03:16] <Arethius> I currently have a desktop that I want to turn into a file server using ubuntu and Samba to transfer stuff between my 2 M$ computers
[03:16] <DagmarX> helluvaCSmajor: I'd try a different mic first.  Cheap ones are notorious for noisy input
[03:16] <sudobash> vlc
[03:16] <epaphus> hey guys.. iam trying to configure my system to use PA as default.. specially twinkle softphone.. can anybody look at this pacmd list-clients and tell me if in fact iam using PA or ALSA? http://www.pastebin.com/HzhzyDZV
[03:16] <sudobash> Arethius: vlc
[03:16] <philipro> dagmar and sudobash: its almost done installing. i havent abandoned you guys once i got it working!
[03:16] <DagmarX> Arethius: Use SWAT to setup Samba.  It's almost stupidly easy
[03:17] <DagmarX> Arethius: If it's enabled, http://thatmachine:901 from any browser
[03:17] <Arethius> and I was curious if it's possible to remote into the ubuntu computer and take control from a windows machine so i don't have to waste a monitor and keyboard on the ubuntu system
[03:17] <DagmarX> Arethius: It's a web interface for configuring Samba
[03:17] <SuperMiguel> ubutom, is it like a hypervisor?
[03:17] <Arethius> Samba isn't what I have the question on. I know that's easy
[03:17] <running_rabbit07> arethius: telnet or ssh
[03:17] <lordarko> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI GUYS
[03:18] <DagmarX> Arethius: If your'e wanting RDP-like behaviour, you'll probably want to use VNC (and VNCserver on the linux box)
[03:18] <Fopp|Newbie> hmmm, still not picking each other up. =(
[03:18] <lordarko> IMA LORDDARKO
[03:18] <rpinzon> hi all
[03:18] <DagmarX> s/telnet//g;
[03:18] <ubutom> SuperMiguel, it's a remote desktop software like vnc, but faster
[03:18] <lordarko> LOLOLOLOLOL
[03:18] <ubutom> SuperMiguel, was specifially designed to work good even on low bandwidth connections
[03:18] <lordarko> WHO IZ SUPAH MIGUEL?
[03:18] <running_rabbit07> lordarko: you here2spam?
[03:19] <lordarko> WHO IZ HERE TWOAH SPAM?
[03:19] <rpinzon> i installed now ubuntu 9.10 and i cannot disable menu icons. i do the same in 9.04 and works, what's happening?
[03:19] <Arethius> DagmarX: thanks for the info!
[03:20] <running_rabbit07> rpinzon: are doing this within the main menu applet?
[03:20] <lordarko> <russian talk>
[03:20] <dedi> looking for an app to backup partition (partimage isnt available)
[03:20] <DagmarX> dedi: dd
[03:20] <philipro> it finally worked, im rebooting now
[03:21] <running_rabbit07> spam | lordarko
[03:21] <lordarko> ANYONE LIKE TIBIA?
[03:21] <r_lakshmikanth> hi
[03:21] <lordarko> HUH?
[03:21] <DagmarX> dedi: dd will make a 1:1 image of a partition just fine
[03:21] <rpinzon> i do this steps: System > Preferences > Appearance > Interface and unchecked "Show icons in menu"
[03:21] <DagmarX> dedi: dd if=/dev/hdwhatver of=filename.img
[03:21] <r_lakshmikanth> I am unable to do NFS mount on karmic 9.10
[03:21] <lordarko> WHO ARE YOU RUNNING BUNNY?
[03:21] <ranjan> hai guys any sed experts here???
[03:21] <lordarko> ME
[03:21] <running_rabbit07> !spam | lordarko
[03:21] <SuperMiguel> lordarko, lol
[03:21] <Flare-Laptop> !ot } lordarko
[03:21] <Flare-Laptop> !ot | lordarko
[03:22] <DagmarX> ranjan: Those people are probably all too insane to speak.  Many folks are decent with sed without losing their minds tho
[03:22] <lordarko> STOP BEEPING ME
[03:22] <arvind_khadri> Ranakah, just ask your question
[03:22] <Flare-Laptop> lordarko: don't make me get the ops
[03:22] <r_lakshmikanth> any body using NFS mount
[03:22] <lordarko> DONT THREAT A GOD
[03:22] <philipro> dagmarx: and sudobash: finally got it up and running!!
[03:22] <running_rabbit07> Flare-Laptop: thanks
[03:22] <ranjan> DagmarX, i want to get clean file names in nautilus scripts what can i do??
[03:22] <KB1JWQ> !ops channel lunacy
[03:22] <evanotten> ubuntu and somehow I managed to lose functionality as well as the icon to firefox while trying to upgrade to a newer version, can someone assist me in installing the latest version perhaps a command line in terminal?
[03:22] <Flare-Laptop> !ops | lordarko
[03:22] <DagmarX> philipro: Awesome
[03:23] <sudobash> sweet now put the Vid Car in first
[03:23] <philipro> thanks for all your guys' help
[03:23] <philipro> yeah that was my next move
[03:23] <philipro> video card but leave out the wifi card right?
[03:23] <sudobash> yeah for now
[03:23] <DagmarX> philipro: Yeah, make one change at a time if at all possible
[03:23] <lordarko> WTH IS HAPPING HERE?
[03:23] <ranjan> i want to get clean file names in nautilus scripts what can i do?? instead of replacing spaces with %20 etc
[03:23] <philipro> will do
[03:23] <dedi> DagmarX: i dont want to take unused space in the image file, and also a bit more advanced would be nice. why is partimage not in the repo anymore?
[03:23] <KB1JWQ> No ops seem to be around.
[03:23] <lordarko> I MAH NOT A SPAMMER
[03:23] <Flare-Laptop> hmmm
[03:23] <running_rabbit07> !lucid | lordarko
[03:24] <DagmarX> ranjan: Oh, there's sed scripts for replacing spaces with underscores in filenames all over the 'net.  Google should turn up _many_
[03:24] <DagmarX> ranjan: http://www.google.com/search?q=sed+replace+spaces+with+underscore
[03:24] <Flare-Laptop> Flannel: Thanks man :)
[03:24] <rpinzon> running_rabbit07: i do this steps: System > Preferences > Appearance > Interface and unchecked "Show icons in menu"
[03:24] <sudobash> An operator is always around somewhere
[03:25] <Flare-Laptop> sudobash: You know it :P
[03:25] <ranjan> DagmarX, Thank you :)
[03:25] <DagmarX> ranjan: No problem.  That's a pretty common task people do
[03:25] <DagmarX> My POS mp3 player just freaks out about spaces in directory names
[03:25] <running_rabbit07> rpinzon: ok, I didn't know how to do that, that's the only reason I asked, sorry
[03:25] <sudobash> Philipro, how many PCI slots do you have, 2?
[03:26] <rpinzon> running_rabbit07: ok, tks
[03:27] <philipro> yes two
[03:27] <running_rabbit07> sebsebseb: That is how love is!
[03:27] <philipro> uh oh on the graphics card
[03:28] <DagmarX> philipro: WARNING... according to what I googled, one of those is a PCI Express slot, not a PCI slot
[03:28] <frosty> guys iv downloaded ndiswraper from there site, but i cant seen to untar it?
[03:28] <philipro> isnt it a pci express x1 slot though?
[03:28] <philipro> like, something that i have NEVER seen anything built for?
[03:28] <DagmarX> philipro: Yeah that's what the search results said... x1
[03:29] <DagmarX> philipro: You can't stick a PCI card in that and have it work
[03:29] <philipro> isnt it like
[03:29] <philipro> a different size slot
[03:29] <DagmarX> It shouldn't even fit afaik
[03:29] <philipro> thats what i thought
[03:29] <sudobash> I don't think the 5200 comes in PCI-e
[03:29] <philipro> but yeah the os didnt start now :(
[03:30] <running_rabbit07> lordarko:?
[03:30] <DagmarX> The PCI slot next to the PCI-E slot almost certainly shares resources with it so you won't be able to use them both at the same time, BUT two plain PCI cards shoudlnt' pose a problem
[03:30] <sudobash> I guess you have to pick between Nvidia or Wifi?
[03:30] <DagmarX> Whether or not the first PCI slot shares resources with the built-in video card is up to chance
[03:30] <TecnoBrat> Anyone ever seen this?  Grey box when you first login http://tinypic.com/r/spccgh/5
[03:31] <philipro> you lost me. youre saying that the pci slot next to the pci express x1 slot will not be functional? how come it worked with xp?
[03:31] <philipro> also, i dont use the pci-e slot
[03:31] <Poent> anyone able to give me a hand with something non-ubuntu related? More specifically related to Java programming? Or should I try another channel?
[03:31] <evanotten> I am not sure who to ask but I had posted earlier that I lost functionality and no longer have firefox installed i get an error in add/remove when trying to remove it; in that I am trying to get the latest version
[03:31] <DagmarX> philpro: Generally the PCI express stuff will share _electrical_ resources with the PCI slot next to it, so both won't work at the same time
[03:32] <evanotten> can anyone assist me in this, i would be very thankful to anyone that is willing to help
[03:32] <philipro> okay. but i dont use pci-e
[03:32] <philipro> its unoccupied
[03:32] <DagmarX> philpro: I found a second report that the thing has two pci slots and one pci-e x1 slot, tho
[03:32] <philipro> that is correct. two pci and one pci-e
[03:32] <philipro> (x1)
[03:32] <DagmarX> philipro: You might be able to test things out using one device at a time in the second (hopefully non-shared) PCI slot
[03:33] <philipro> well
[03:33] <sudobash> put vid card on bottom PCI
[03:33] <philipro> so far i placed my FX5200 in the pci slot that would theoretically be shared. the other is unoccupied
[03:33] <philipro> the 5200 is in the slot next to the pci x1
[03:33] <philipro> pci-e x1*
[03:33] <sudobash> put the vid card on the second slot
[03:33] <sudobash> bottom slot
[03:34] <philipro> it is in the bottom slot
[03:34] <philipro> move it up, away from the pci-e x1, then?
[03:34] <sudobash> whichever is not next to the pci-e slot
[03:34] <sudobash>  yes
[03:34] <DagmarX> philipro: Finally found a picture... http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff327/UserLog2323/Comp/IMG_6098.jpg?t=1269000093
[03:34] <DagmarX> philipro: Based on past experience, it's the *upper* slot in that image that might be dodgy to use at the same time as the integrated video chipset
[03:34] <philipro> okay. im just confused. i wonder, why does my pci 5200 have trouble when NOTHING is plugged into the x1?
[03:35] <philipro> hmm. DagmarX: i am in the bottom slot. so im SOL then?
[03:35] <denis_> skype vs v4l2 - how to ?
[03:35] <philipro> could it be that my new fresh install doesnt have the correct drivers for the 5200?
[03:35] <sudobash> try it anyways
[03:35] <philipro> ok
[03:35] <DagmarX> philipro: Not necessarily, you can always try the other slot
[03:35] <DagmarX> philipro: PCI controllers only have so many interrupt lines and often manufacturers will use a cheaper chipset with fewr
[03:36] <evanotten> One or more applications depend on firefox-3.0. To remove firefox-3.0 and the dependent applications, use the Synaptic package manager.
[03:36] <DagmarX> ...especially if it's like eMachines and they don't really expect anyone to upgrade the hardware much
[03:37] <DagmarX> philipro: As to the drivers for the nVidia card, it should do 1024x768 using the VESA driver alone
[03:37] <extor> Is there a way to setup the ubuntu installer in /boot with it's kernel and init so it autostarts and then starts a sshd daemon automagically so one can just ssh in and finish the install?
[03:37] <sudobash> yeah the card works fine in Ubuntu without the driver
[03:37] <philipro> alright
[03:37] <philipro> well