[05:53] <zykotick9> Sidvee: there are two actually: "xdg-open foo" and "gnome-open foo" (not 100% on the gnome one, you'd need to test)
[05:53] <Kartagis> does anybody feel like doing sound card debugging? I have a SiS 7012 and my microphone isn't workinh
[05:53] <Kartagis> working*
[05:53] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, it doesn't seem to be MD5. I have downloaded the file a few times and every time it pulls up a different, longer checksum.
[05:54] <agc93> hang on, the same file is giving you different hashes at different times?
[05:54] <agc93> if thats the case, its not a checksum
[05:54] <agc93> That kind of goes against how checksums (be they MD5, SHA1 or anything else) work
[05:55] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, I kept getting the same checksum everytime from I ran MD5 and it is longer than the one HTC provided.
[05:56] <agc93> Have you tried SHA1? Whats the website url where you found the checksum?
[05:56] <Sidvee> zykotick9: Cool man! Genius. :D Worked for pdf. :)
[05:57] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, I have not tried SHA1 and I got it from here http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/unlock-instructions/page-2
[05:58] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  i try to burn the ubuntu final .iso with  the brasero burner and it takes too long time when it shows creating image checksum
[05:58] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  is that mean there is an error?
[05:59] <Nerf_Jihad> making a checksum of 700mb takes some time
[05:59] <Nerf_Jihad> it's applying high-order maths to it and giving you meaningful / semi-meaningful output. it'll tell you if there's an error, usually
[06:00] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  so which program burner is good coz i want to install the latest ubuntu version lts
[06:00] <Nerf_Jihad> brasero is what I use
[06:01] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  i stopped on 12 minutes, coz it cant be done
[06:01]  * zykotick9 wishes there was a gnome equivalant to k3b (but kde libs for 1 apps is overkill)
[06:01] <agc93> occupydemonoid that site needs registration, which i havent got. In what context or anything does it say checksum? How long is the checksum?
[06:04] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, it turned out it was md5 and I just kept getting bad downloads. v.v First time that ever happened to me.
[06:05] <Nerf_Jihad> bargash: you might consider disabling verification if you know that the image itself is valid
[06:05] <agc93> but the hash was a different length? Thats not usually possible...
[06:05] <yharrow> why doesnt ubuntu support intel video cards?
[06:05] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, I most likely counted wrong. It is late after all. :)
[06:06] <Arash> how can I run zenmap with root ? is there any other way not to use terminal ?
[06:06] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: what do you mean by "support"?
[06:06] <OccupyDemonoid> yharrow, It supports mine. What type do you have?
[06:06] <agc93> yharrow they do? What makes you say that?
[06:06] <yharrow> i can get 2d rendering
[06:06] <Nerf_Jihad> Arash: sudo zenmap
[06:06] <yharrow> but 3d does not work
[06:06] <yharrow> it slow as shit
[06:06] <yharrow> and useless :(
[06:06] <FloodBot1> yharrow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:06] <Arash> I know that but is there any other way ?
[06:06] <SDX> Is there a way to trim the output of acpi -t down to the temperature?
[06:06] <Nerf_Jihad> Arash: also, gksu zenmap
[06:06] <dr_willis> yharrow:  all my intel work very well. some intel vidoe chipsets were sort of outsourced i recall reading. so their linux support is not as well done.
[06:06] <agc93> SDX, pipe the output to cut. Check the man page for more information
[06:07] <SDX> Thank you.
[06:07] <yharrow> dr_willis its a brand new computer and the video card isnt evne usable
[06:07] <Arash> GKSU is a nice one
[06:07] <Arash> thanks ;)
[06:07] <agc93> yharrow, my intel boards have all worked quite well
[06:07] <yharrow> dr_willis  i have a optimus nvidia card which i gave up on using
[06:07] <yharrow> dr_willis: now i just want the intel to wokr
[06:07] <dr_willis> yharrow:  'brand new' means it so new any issues/driver updates have not been included in the current ubuntu kernel perhaps. there are ppa;'s with newer cutting edge kernels and intel drivers
[06:07] <yharrow> dr_willis: and i cant even have that
[06:08] <agc93> what didnt work with the NVIDIA?
[06:08] <yharrow> agc93: my computer has no 3d support at all
[06:08] <yharrow> agc93: its worse than my pc from 15 years ago
[06:08] <dr_willis> Optimus is a whole addationa layer of problems. due to nvidia basically  thumbing their noses at linux in its support. so its very much a work in progress
[06:09] <yharrow> dr_willis: but i gave up on it. i just want hte intel onboard to work now
[06:09] <agc93> oh, sorry didnt realise it was an optimus. Yes, they are pretty tricky. Have you tried Additional Drivers (Jockey-gtk) to see if there is anything?
[06:09] <yharrow> no there isnt
[06:09] <yharrow> in the livecd i had hw accel
[06:09] <agc93> also remember that intel onboards aren't always very good to begin with... unless they're *really*new
[06:09] <dr_willis> optimuius/dual video - is the latest 'winmodem' hardware disaster. ;(
[06:09] <yharrow> but now i lost it
[06:10] <tking0036> does anyone here use broadcom-sta?
[06:10] <agc93> hang on, in the livecd, you had acceleration?
[06:10] <yharrow> yes
[06:10] <rkhshm> Im having a weird problem with 11.10
[06:10] <yharrow> for intel i think it was
[06:10] <yharrow> i cant imagine it was for nvidia by default
[06:10] <yharrow> now its gone
[06:10] <OccupyDemonoid> rkhshm, what is your problems?
[06:10] <rkhshm> when i enter the login screen i can see that my trackpad is working.. But when after i login the track pad fails to work
[06:10] <agc93> Then you're probably using the wrong X Driver now. Anyone know if the Live CD has a xorg.conf by default?
[06:10] <rkhshm> I'm using T410
[06:11] <dr_willis> agc93:  it shouldent. it should auto configure.
[06:11] <agc93> bugger. That was the best way i knew of checking current driver...
[06:11] <ico> just wondering, how is the support of AMD dynamic swithicng laptops? do they work in Ubuntu or they also fail?
[06:11] <dr_willis> boot live cd and see wht it does and what driver its using perhaps.
[06:11] <OccupyDemonoid> rkhshm, does it disappear or does it stop moving?
[06:11] <yharrow> dr_willis: maybe i should autocinfigure then?
[06:11] <dr_willis> May ne using tghe neovu driver
[06:11] <agc93> dr_willis, that seems likely. nouveau is pretty slow on 3d
[06:11] <agc93> unless its on vesa or some other nonsense
[06:11] <rkhshm> OccupyDemonoid: it stops moving.. I can see the mouse on the screen.. But any movement on the trackpads wont reflect the same with the mouse
[06:11] <dr_willis> To have X auto configure you just reemove your xorg.conf file (or rename it)
[06:12] <rkhshm> but at the login screen if i try the same.. It works
[06:12] <yharrow> i removed it serveral times
[06:12] <yharrow> i even switched to an earlier kernel
[06:12] <rkhshm> OccupyDemonoid: All other keys are working fine
[06:12] <yharrow> i been at this since 3 in the monring
[06:12] <yharrow> or 4
[06:13] <yharrow> im spneding close to a day on this
[06:13] <yharrow> and nobody can help me
[06:13] <yharrow> with anything
[06:13] <dr_willis> the optimus stuf fis so cutting edge.. thats not supriuseing
[06:13] <yharrow> dr_willis: i gave up on it halfway
[06:13] <yharrow> now i just want intel to work
[06:13] <yharrow> and nobody can help me with that either
[06:13] <dr_willis> its still using ghe optimus chipset  so xan be part of the issue
[06:14] <yharrow> dr_willis: than why did the livecd work
[06:14] <yharrow> whey did it work in the livecd
[06:14] <yharrow> and what choice do i have anyway
[06:14] <yharrow> i only have one computer
[06:14] <dr_willis> yharrow:  what did? you could boot the live cd now and see what card/driver its using.
[06:15] <yharrow> dr_willis: is it so hard to trouble shoota intel video card?
[06:15] <yharrow> if i knew where to start i could google
[06:15] <dr_willis> yharrow:  its not 'just' an intel video card.
[06:15] <yharrow> but i have no idea where to even begin
[06:15] <yharrow> dr_willis, i just wnat to use the intel
[06:15] <dr_willis> id start with askubuntu.com and the forums.
[06:15] <yharrow> i dont care about nvidia anymore
[06:16] <dr_willis> yharrow:  yes.. we get that. BUT its not like theeres some switch that totally turns off the optimus/nvidia stuff. the 2 are still in there and can be causeing issues
[06:16] <yharrow> dr_willis: than how come it worked on the livecd?
[06:16] <dr_willis> there might be some bios settings.  might not be.
[06:16] <dr_willis> 'it' meaning what..... the nvidia? the intel?
[06:16] <yharrow> i cant access bios cuz my screen wont turn on till the operating system loads
[06:17] <yharrow> dr_willis: i cant imagine nvidia was working so i will assume intel
[06:17] <dr_willis> boot a live cd and verify exctly whqt the live cd is using.
[06:17] <dr_willis> its also possible some of the other tweaking you did to get the other stuff wworking earlier is now causing issues.
[06:18] <yharrow> i have no idea how to do that
[06:18] <dr_willis> boot live cd.. look at th xorg logs.
[06:18] <yharrow> its all gibberish to me
[06:18] <vampirnata> yharrow: you need to drop the attitude though. No one here is "required" to help.
[06:18] <Nerf_Jihad> ^this
[06:18] <yharrow> vampirnata: im sorry if u feel i have an attitude
[06:18] <dr_willis> you could always pastebin the logs for people to look at..
[06:19] <dwarder> hello i just got my new 9.04 ubuntu vps, it seems that it no longer can sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade, are there ways to upgrade this vps to lates distro?
[06:19] <Nerf_Jihad> ^this too
[06:19] <OccupyDemonoid> rkhshm, sorry I didn't reply sooner. I didn't see the notification. When that happened to me, I just had to do updates and it cleared up for me.
[06:19] <yharrow> vampirnata: i won't ask for help then if u dont want me too. i just came here cuz ppl said i would get help here
[06:19] <jagginess> yharrow, maybe your manufacturer disabled 'show bios boot' even though you can still hit the default bios setup key (check your manual)
[06:19] <yharrow> vampirnata: im sorry for insulting u
[06:19] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow, hammer on tab, f1, esc, f11, f12, insert, and delete
[06:19] <vampirnata> I never said you shouldn't ask for help...
[06:20] <yharrow> vampirnata: u said i have an attitude like i expectedppl to help me
[06:20] <yharrow> and its true i do
[06:20] <yharrow> so im saying
[06:20] <yharrow> i understand that u dont hav eto help me
[06:20] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: you're also being obstinate and argumentative instead of trying to meet us halfway. we're not the ones sitting at your computer
[06:20] <yharrow> *sigh*
[06:20] <yharrow> I just need someoen to tell me what to do
[06:20] <Nerf_Jihad> we need more information than what you're giving us. the xorg logs would be very helpful to us nerd types in diagnosing your problem
[06:21] <vampirnata> and there's the problem :(
[06:21] <dr_willis> so... boot the live cd.. come  back when its running...
[06:21] <vampirnata> ^
[06:21] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: i get all that but when ppl say things lik "boot the live cd and chc k the drives" it doesnt help me
[06:21] <yharrow> cuz i have no idea how to chck drivers
[06:21] <vampirnata> but he's said to boot the live cd and come back here
[06:21] <Nerf_Jihad> right, but booting the livecd should be well within your realm of knowledge
[06:22] <yharrow> yeh
[06:22] <yharrow> is there a wiki or something i should read before asking for help here?
[06:22] <yharrow> it seems im offending alot of ppl
[06:22] <jagginess> yharrow, when you say it's "all gibberish to me".. it tells me you want a quick fix without giving anybody feedback. So you're pretty much on your own. (You can't learn)
[06:22] <vampirnata> i would suggest always reading at least through the install docs
[06:22] <Nerf_Jihad> getting down off the cross for a few minutes would help greatly
[06:23] <vampirnata> google ubuntu install documentation
[06:23] <vampirnata> read through that so at least you understand a little
[06:23] <yharrow> jagginess: yeh that comment was out of line even if it was a result of my exasperation
[06:23] <Nerf_Jihad> we're not hiding the secret to fixing your computer, we genuinely don't have a clue about your specific problem without this specific information that you're very firmly *not giving us*
[06:23] <jagginess> yharrow, have a nice day. try google.
[06:23] <yharrow> jagginess i was basically apologizing
[06:23] <yharrow> ><
[06:24] <vampirnata> you're wasting time. go boot the livecd
[06:24] <Nerf_Jihad> you shouldn't have to qualify the verb "apologizing" but I digress. boot the livecd, tell us when it's up
[06:24] <yharrow> vampirnata: i am i just dont like the idea of ppl being upset with me
[06:24] <dr_willis> where are the defauklt x logs. i forget...
[06:24] <yharrow> so i was trying to clear the air
[06:25] <Nerf_Jihad> /var/log/xorg.<number>.log
[06:25] <vampirnata> to be honest i think the only person upset here is you :)
[06:25] <OccupyDemonoid> yharrow, dude, my sixty year old mom understands "Oh, I just have to restart my computer and boot off of a LiveCD of Ubuntu and come back here after I install XChat or go to Meebit.com to get help."
[06:26] <Nerf_Jihad> OccupyDemonoid: freenode banned mibbit
[06:26] <dr_willis> isent there a log file in the home dir also? but thats the log of the window manager errors and so forth. not on a ubuntu box right now so i xant look.
[06:26] <yharrow> OccupyDemonoid: i'm doing it, like i said i was just making sure ppl werent mad at me.
[06:26] <dwarder> will i be able to upgrade my 9.04 with sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[06:26] <OccupyDemonoid> I thought it was spelled wrong. I never knew Freenode banned it though. :)
[06:26] <dwarder> this is VPS
[06:27] <dwarder> over ssh
[06:27] <dr_willis> dwarder:  its possible the vps providers dont want you to.
[06:27] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, yes, but that could break something.
[06:27] <dwarder> OccupyDemonoid: do i need a serial console to finish the upgrade??
[06:28] <Exploiter> can anyonte tell me what is average CPU load for AMD athlon x 64 CPU? mine is 1.77 1.89 1.75 now
[06:28] <dr_willis> i wouldent want to do a  a release upgrade over ssh.. ;)
[06:28] <ekaj> Is it possible to change your broadcast address?
[06:28] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: yes, but that's generally something that breaks your networking
[06:28] <dwarder> dr_willis: it is imposible ove ssh?
[06:28] <dwarder> over*
[06:28] <dr_willis> dwarder:  if it screws up... then what?
[06:29] <Nerf_Jihad> dwarder: no, but if it breaks, you can't get back in to fix it
[06:29] <ekaj> Nerf, I don't really know much about networking, trying to add a lubuntu comp to a server 2k3 network
[06:29] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, ssh will be fine, but I know with my VPS, when I did a dist upgrade, it broke the system and I had to reinstall the OS. You should check to see if they provide a different, newer image to install a newer version of Ubuntu.
[06:29] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: in what context of 'add'?
[06:29] <Nerf_Jihad> join it to the domain? integrate it as a mail server?
[06:30] <ekaj> join it to the domain, and I can't get the internet to work although it's connected to the network
[06:30] <Nerf_Jihad> can you ping?
[06:30] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, Well, at least the VPS providers I have had had a option to reinstall the OS.
[06:30] <sekim> Morning.... I think the SSL certifiate for landscape.canonical.com has expired???
[06:30] <ekaj> yes
[06:30] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: can you ping outside the network?
[06:30] <dwarder> OccupyDemonoid: i see
[06:31] <ekaj> well, I tried to ping an address, it got the IP but it freezes on the "PING (WEBSITE) (ip) etc..." part
[06:32] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, that would be the best bet to upgrade because then you won't have to worry about it breaking. In my case it was 10.04 LTS breaking when I upgraded it to 12.04 LTS
[06:32] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: is this linux box authorized by the networking gods?
[06:32] <ekaj> by the admins?
[06:33] <Nerf_Jihad> *cough*
[06:33] <Nerf_Jihad> same diff
[06:33] <ekaj> yes =p me
[06:33] <ekaj> I set up the XP comp to the domain / internet fine, just stumbling with linux
[06:33] <Nerf_Jihad> do you have any sort of perimeter defenses? anti-user goofing off countermeasures?
[06:33] <OccupyDemonoid> Nerf_Jihad, sorry to be off topic but I just noticed I love your username. Only, the sad part is, it reminds me of Battlefield 3.
[06:33] <ekaj> nope
[06:34] <Nerf_Jihad> OccupyDemonoid: used to be Nerd Jihad, but I typoed it and liked it better
[06:34] <OccupyDemonoid> Either way works. :)
[06:34] <Nerf_Jihad> now it makes me seem all deep and anti-war / anti-religion / anti-fundamentalism
[06:34] <dr_willis> but in a child safe way...
[06:35] <Nerf_Jihad> ed-zackery
[06:35] <fl0w> So I was in Vim working on something and I pressed something (sigh) and now I have a copy of that document running in the background. I can see when I run "jobs", as stopped - but I don't know how to pick it up or remove it?
[06:35] <sekim> Does anybody know where I should report that Landscape is buggered?
[06:35] <Nerf_Jihad> fl0w: fg
[06:35] <ekaj> lawn and garden department
[06:35] <lamaz> :)
[06:35] <ekaj> Nerf, and ideas?
[06:35] <fl0w> Nerf_Jihad: Oh, thanks. What did I press?
[06:35] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: hrm... what's mtr www.google.com give you?
[06:35] <dwarder> OccupyDemonoid: ok i'll just do do-release-upgrade now
[06:36] <Nerf_Jihad> fl0w: ctrl + z
[06:36] <dr_willis> fl0w:  ctrl-z perhaps
[06:36] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, make sure all of your data is backed up that you want just in case.
[06:36] <ekaj> mtr?
[06:36] <Nerf_Jihad> it's ping and traceroute on steroids
[06:36] <ekaj> rofl
[06:36] <Nerf_Jihad> live stats of the connection
[06:36] <dwarder> OccupyDemonoid: just bought this vps
[06:36] <ekaj> okay, it's just showing a blank outline atm
[06:36] <ekaj> of the tables and stuff, no real data besides Sol (<IP_ADDRESS>) in upper left
[06:37] <Nerf_Jihad> what's your ifconfig say?
[06:37] <dwarder> An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool.
[06:37] <Nerf_Jihad> OH
[06:37] <dwarder> what tool should i use?
[06:37] <Nerf_Jihad> dhclient eth0
[06:38] <ekaj> eth0: iner addr <IP_ADDRESS>, bcast <IP_ADDRESS>, mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:38] <Nerf_Jihad> yup, you're in local mode
[06:38] <Nerf_Jihad> unless...
[06:38] <ekaj> it's supposed to be
[06:38] <ekaj> I think...
[06:39] <ekaj> I have a desktop plugged into my switch's internet port to share the connection
[06:39] <Nerf_Jihad> maybe?
[06:39] <dwarder> An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool. tool is do-relase-upgrade, what tool should i use instead
[06:39] <dwarder> ?
[06:39] <ekaj> well, shouldn't the broadcast and inet addresses match?
[06:40] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: inet address is your boxen, bcast is how it shouts at everything to find new stuff
[06:40] <ekaj> boxen?
[06:40] <Nerf_Jihad> box + oxen = boxen
[06:40] <ekaj> so the other computers don't really need to know the inet addr?
[06:40] <ekaj> **broadcast
[06:41] <Nerf_Jihad> the other computers have the same broadcast address, if they're set up right
[06:41] <Nerf_Jihad> what's your gateway?
[06:41] <ekaj> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:41] <Nerf_Jihad> and ping <IP_ADDRESS> works?
[06:41] <ekaj> yes
[06:42] <Nerf_Jihad> and you didn't unplug your uplink to the rest of the world when you moved cables around on the switch?
[06:42] <yharrow> can anyone help me?
[06:42] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: you're back!
[06:42] <ekaj> the internet? no, the other two computers still have internet, and thiscomputer can ping websites but only gets an IP address
[06:42] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: yeh sorry
[06:42] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: so browsing by ip address doesn't work either?
[06:42] <ekaj> bad cable possibly?
[06:42] <ekaj> haven't tried that yet
[06:43] <Nerf_Jihad> bad cable would mean that you weren't getting *anything*
[06:43] <Nerf_Jihad> or intermittently getting things, only when the cable was in a specific orientation
[06:43] <yharrow> can someone help me?
[06:43] <ekaj> hm okay
[06:43] <ekaj> yharrow ask the question.
[06:44] <yharrow> how do i find out what drivers are being used
[06:44] <ekaj> entering the ip address does the same thing -.-
[06:44] <yharrow> or how do i learn to read xorg logs?
[06:44] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: paste the logs somewhere and give us the link
[06:44] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: what same thing?
[06:44] <ekaj> god this is frustrating
[06:45] <ekaj> webpage is not available, operation timed out
[06:45] <yharrow> i was told not to take advantage of ppl so i think i should learn how to read xorg logs. I'm not sure what im allowed to ask so im being careful
[06:45] <dr_willis> pastebinit command makes it easier to paste files.
[06:45] <Nerf_Jihad> you're not sharing an ip address with anything else?
[06:46] <dr_willis> we asked you to pastebin the logs earlier ;)
[06:46] <fishbait> how do i check the current speed of my cpu?
[06:46] <ekaj> nope, only have 0.10, .11, and .12 in use atm
[06:46] <Nerf_Jihad> 12 is your win box?
[06:46] <ekaj> 10 and 11 are, 12 is lubuntu
[06:46] <dr_willis> i think the logs are in /var/log/ but i dont know the full path. you will have to look
[06:46] <Nerf_Jihad> wait
[06:46] <Nerf_Jihad> 10 is a box, not a router?
[06:46] <yharrow> dr_willis: the guy i was speaking to earlier was yelling at me for telling him that i cant read pastebin logs. but ok ill post them
[06:46] <ekaj> 1 sec
[06:46] <ekaj> yeah
[06:46] <ekaj> <IP_ADDRESS> is the router
[06:46] <Nerf_Jihad> set your gateway to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:47] <Nerf_Jihad> er
[06:47] <ekaj> eh
[06:47] <dr_willis> yharrow:  no he was annoyed that you kept gaveing excuses and not doing wwhat we asked when we were trying to help.'
[06:47] <ekaj> the Server 2K3 is set up to do DHCP
[06:47] <ekaj> behind the router
[06:47] <yharrow> dr_willis i thought it was a final answer like "go read the logs on ur own and be done here"
[06:47] <Nerf_Jihad> route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:47] <Nerf_Jihad> er
[06:47] <Nerf_Jihad> route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:47] <dr_willis> yharrow:  theres basically some 'Driver' lines in the log files. but  thats aboiut all i rember of them
[06:47] <ekaj> but the gateway (the server) is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:47] <ekaj> and that's how the XP box is set up
[06:48] <yharrow> im googling to find the pastebin site
[06:48] <yharrow> so may take a few mins
[06:48] <Nerf_Jihad> xp ain't linux
[06:48] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[06:48] <fishbait> !paste
[06:48] <ekaj> yeah, but the network is getting internet through my desktop, who is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:48] <fishbait> !pastebin
[06:48] <dr_willis> yharrow:  do a 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' and use that command to pastebin the log file.
[06:48] <Nerf_Jihad> try it anyway
[06:48] <ekaj> I am =p
[06:49] <yharrow> unable to locate package
[06:49] <ekaj> ffs keep using wrong keyboards
[06:49] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[06:49] <dr_willis> check spelling.
[06:49] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: http://synergy-foss.org/
[06:49] <fishbait> how do i check the current speed of my cpu?
[06:50] <Nerf_Jihad> fishbait: less /proc/cpuinfo
[06:50] <yharrow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046773/
[06:51] <ekaj> nerf, I prefer a mouse and KB for my real desktop, have a KVM for the network... going to use remote desktop connections once I get everything up and running
[06:51] <ekaj> Also, adding <IP_ADDRESS> didn't change anything
[06:51] <yharrow> xorg logs are found at /var/log/Xorg.<version>.log
[06:51] <fishbait> my concern is that it says 800mhz for both cores but i know this is a 3.1ghz cpu which makes me think that it like power phase or something
[06:52] <fishbait> 800 8 2 = 1600 or 1.6ghz
[06:52] <fishbait> 800 * 2 = 1600 or 1.6ghz
[06:52] <fishbait> so where did the remaining 1.5 go?
[06:53] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046773/
[06:53] <fishbait> more specifically how do i check cpu idling states
[06:53] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: reading it already, dude.
[06:53] <yharrow> ok
[06:53] <yharrow> i feel like an idiot for asking for help here
[06:54] <yharrow> imean
[06:54] <yharrow> everyone knows so much more than me
[06:54] <yharrow> I wish i was smarter
[06:54] <Nerf_Jihad> you, off the cross
[06:54] <ekaj> welcome to my world, I've been trying to fix my problem for an hour
[06:54] <yharrow> but these planks are so comfy
[06:54] <yharrow> and the nails hit all the right spots
[06:55] <dr_willis> log file mentions INTEL quite a few times..  no mention of  NVIDIA
[06:55] <Nerf_Jihad> so what's the xorg logs look like in your production machine?
[06:55] <yharrow> i dont know
[06:55] <fishbait> actuallly i'm still learning ubuntu nerf_jihad and ekaj fell lucky my problem took 3 days to fully resolve
[06:55] <dr_willis> so it seems to be defaulting toi the intel log filess here.
[06:55] <yharrow> but they were posted here  ahiwle back
[06:55] <yharrow> like a long while back
[06:55] <dr_willis> pastebin the output of 'lsmod' also for future referance
[06:55] <yharrow> oh wait im so dumb
[06:55] <ekaj> fish what was your problem
[06:56] <yharrow> i can mount my production hd
[06:56] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: lemme see if I can summarize
[06:56] <yharrow> and check
[06:56] <dr_willis> so  the drivers on the live seem to be working fine? not sluggish?  unity effects seem ok?
[06:56] <Nerf_Jihad> you've got an address assigned by DHCP, it can ping in-network, grab DNS, and is generally stable
[06:57] <yharrow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046774/ that is the production
[06:57] <yharrow> machine
[06:57] <fishbait> my nic an r8168 wouldn't work it loaded the r8169 drivers and after finding the right drivers and driver version i had to setup static address and write in the dns servers into the head file a real learning experience
[06:57] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: your problem is that the autoconfig says Intel, the bad machine says nvidia
[06:58] <yharrow> that makes sense
[06:58] <yharrow> so how do i get intel to work again
[06:58] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: answer dr_willis
[06:58] <ekaj> generally stable? what do you mean?
[06:58] <fishbait> O.O perhaps intel is onboard gpu and nvidia is gpu card?
[06:59] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: it's not crashing / sparking / arcing
[06:59] <ekaj> correct
[06:59] <yharrow> i never had issues with unity i dont think
[06:59] <ekaj> and that sounds like a pain fish
[06:59] <onats> hi all. is it possible to share a scanner that is connected via usb, to mac / windows devices?
[06:59] <yharrow> always in unity 2d
[06:59] <yharrow> it never went to 3d
[07:00] <dr_willis> i dont really see any differanxes in the live-cd logs Vs. the installed sysgtrrm logs..
[07:00] <ekaj> I'm going to bed in like 5 minutes.
[07:00] <onats> !scanner
[07:00] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: however you cannot browse or use network resources
[07:00] <fishbait> believe me it was i located the 0.31 drivers myself and they turned out bad someone here pointed me to switchmods drivers which use 0.28 version and automate the process
[07:00] <ekaj> I haven't tried to set up any network resources... I assume those would work
[07:01] <dr_willis> does unity-2d come on the live cd? ive never noticed'
[07:01] <ekaj> but then again, I also assumed the internet would work by now.
[07:01] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: and you've rebooted?
[07:01] <ekaj> yes
[07:02] <Nerf_Jihad> well, I'm pretty well stumped too
[07:02] <dr_willis> yharrow:  so exactly what is not wworking on the installed system:? No desktop? just slow?  explodes into flames?
[07:02] <Nerf_Jihad> problem -> windows box -> backbone -> internet
[07:02] <yharrow> sadly no flames, just 3d acccel on java is painfully slow
[07:02] <dr_willis> err.. JUST on java?
[07:02] <yharrow> im installing openjdk and java app and testing now
[07:03] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: what's glgears look like?
[07:03] <yharrow> dr_willis: i never tested anythign else
[07:03] <ekaj> Maybe if I get the network working... I can let you RDC my computer and fix it. =p
[07:03] <dr_willis> are you baseing this on minecraft fps?
[07:03] <yharrow> yes
[07:03] <Nerf_Jihad> >_<
[07:03] <yharrow> why?
[07:03] <ekaj> I'll try to figure it out...
[07:03] <dr_willis> minecraft is a very very picky game.. and may be the cause of your whole issues....
[07:04] <yharrow> alli know is on the livecd in the same exact situationt bere were no problems
[07:04] <DarkBlood> How to change the user selection screen resolution?
[07:04] <yharrow> then i messed with nvidia
[07:04] <yharrow> and there were problems
[07:04] <dr_willis> so you are now installing java and minecraft on the live cd as a test... good idea.
[07:04] <yharrow> yeh
[07:04] <yharrow> to confirm
[07:05] <ekaj> ...eth0 is wired connection 1.. .right?
[07:05] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: yes
[07:05] <ekaj> yeah, okay
[07:05] <DarkBlood> ekaj, Yes.
[07:05] <fishbait> ekaj during install did it ask you for any missing firmware?
[07:05] <dr_willis> its downrigth amazeing the amount of  'support' issues i see in here a week involoving minecraft..
[07:05] <ekaj> the OS? the OS is completely updated.
[07:06] <Nerf_Jihad> firmware could mean stuff blown into the eeproms in the card
[07:06] <Nerf_Jihad> rare, but not unheard of
[07:06] <ekaj> dunno what you mean =/
[07:06] <Nerf_Jihad> like flashing a router
[07:06] <Nerf_Jihad> or your bios
[07:07] <ekaj> I think those are fine, I think I am just missing something simple
[07:07] <ekaj> It worked before I assigned the IP address and crap
[07:07] <Nerf_Jihad> I put all my skill points into Geek Fiddle and Troubleshooting
[07:07] <Nerf_Jihad> OH
[07:07] <Nerf_Jihad> shit
[07:07] <FloodBot1> Nerf_Jihad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <ekaj> ofl
[07:07] <Nerf_Jihad> fscking... did you dhclient eth0?
[07:07] <fishbait> no no no in my case it asked me for missing firmware files during install and then the nic didn't work
[07:08] <ekaj> Did I?
[07:08] <Nerf_Jihad> idk, did you?
[07:08] <fishbait> it was the r8168 story
[07:08] <yharrow> i get a solid 30fps which is usable
[07:08] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: before it was like 2fps
[07:08] <ekaj> no
[07:08] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: so you need the intel drivers, not the nvidia drivers
[07:08] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: dhclient eth0
[07:08] <yharrow> yeh so it would seem
[07:08] <yharrow> if only i could install them
[07:09] <yharrow> but thats what ive beent ryingi to do for several hours
[07:09] <yharrow> anyway
[07:09] <yharrow> im gonna reboot
[07:09] <Nerf_Jihad> what's your card?
[07:09] <yharrow> unless u wan anothe rlog
[07:09] <ekaj> no difference
[07:09] <ekaj> er
[07:09] <ekaj> how do I tell?ifconfig
[07:09] <ekaj> wrong computer
[07:09] <Nerf_Jihad> lol
[07:10] <Nerf_Jihad> ifconfig, mtr www.google.com
[07:10] <fishbait> how do i check cpu idling states
[07:10] <ekaj> It's an old card.. ifconfig doesn't say a name
[07:10] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: I meant yharrow
[07:10] <ekaj> ah
[07:11] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: what's your GPU?
[07:11] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: thisis my lshw http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046796/
[07:11] <yharrow> sudo lshw -c video
[07:11] <ekaj> I need to go to bed, any last minute ideas?
[07:12] <yharrow> ekaj: ideas for what?
[07:13] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: honestly, donny. if you can't keep up with the conversation, it's rude to even try
[07:13] <ekaj> to make my internet work
[07:13] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: what conversation?
[07:13] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: ever seen The Big Lebowski?
[07:13] <yharrow> nope
[07:13] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: it's a good movie, you should watch it sometime
[07:14] <yharrow> xD
[07:14] <yharrow> ok
[07:14] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: I'm fresh out of ideas, mang. sorry for not being more helpful
[07:14] <ekaj> thanks for being as helpful as you were! much appreciated =p
[07:14] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: uname -a
[07:14] <Nerf_Jihad> it should only be one line, paste it in the chat window
[07:15] <Rask> Hey guys... somewhat noobish question, hopefully the answer is a simple one.  du shows that my disk should only have about 5 gigs in use, but df is showing that 100% of the filesystem is in use, and it's causing problems.  How can I find out what's causing the issue and fix it?
[07:16] <yharrow> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-23-generic-pae #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 22:19:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:16] <ekaj> I don't really want to post this on superuser... lol
[07:16] <yharrow> but my acutaly comptuer is differnt
[07:16] <yharrow> i updated the kernel
[07:16] <fishbait> this is 3.1 ghz processor how do i make this reflect it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046800
[07:16] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/45533 is this the driver you installed?
[07:17] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: i purged all drivers form my main box
[07:17] <yharrow> all nvidia
[07:17] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: right, but before you did that, was that the driver you'd installed?
[07:17] <yharrow> except the .run script
[07:17] <yharrow> yes
[07:17] <Nerf_Jihad> okay, making progress
[07:17] <sacarlson> Rask:  I'm not sure how your getting du to show your disk space
[07:17] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: wait im not sure i used x64
[07:17] <yharrow> nerf let me check
[07:18] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: install the x64 version next time
[07:18] <Nerf_Jihad> matching kernel params helps with stability and functionality
[07:18] <Rask> oh geesh
[07:18] <yharrow> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-295.59.run
[07:18] <Rask> nevermind
[07:18] <yharrow> i install that Nerf_Jihad
[07:19]  * Rask did a stupid thing
[07:19] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: yup, there's your problem
[07:19] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: pull the x64 version and install that
[07:19] <yharrow> well i should reboot into my main box then
[07:19] <yharrow> andleave live cd
[07:19] <fishbait> this is 3.1 ghz processor http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046800 but the cpumhz only add up to 1.6ghz is something wrong?
[07:19] <yharrow> no?
[07:19] <Nerf_Jihad> could be helpful toward that end
[07:19] <yharrow> ok brb
[07:19] <alexey> u
[07:19] <dr_willis> yharrow:  iis there anything imporntant on that box right now?
[07:20] <yharrow> dr_willis: i dont want to reinstall
[07:20] <dr_willis> may be safer/easier  in the long run...'
[07:20] <yharrow> dr_willis: i spent a long time installing things
[07:20] <alexey> quit
[07:20] <alexey> exit
[07:20] <alexey> q
[07:20] <dr_willis> so make a list and reinstall them
[07:20] <ekaj> are you trying to quit IRC?
[07:20] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:21] <Nerf_Jihad> fishbait: cpu mhz don't work that way, it's probably got hyperthreading which = 2 logical cores per physical core
[07:21] <dr_willis> !clone
[07:21] <yharrow> dr_willis: how hard can it be to install an intel driver and remove traces of a nvidia one?
[07:21] <fishbait> ah ty
[07:21] <dr_willis> yharrow:  given that you used the .run installer... it may be a task...
[07:21] <fishbait> now it adds up
[07:21] <dr_willis> i dont even know if the r.urn has an unisntaller
[07:21] <yharrow> dr_willis: i dont mind spending time to do that if i have a list of stuff to remove.
[07:21] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: the intel driver is the fallback driver. you need to install the x64 to fix the problem
[07:22] <Nerf_Jihad> since you're running a rather spiffy GPU
[07:22] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  do i install it over the old x32?
[07:23] <etnt`> how do I raise/lower windows in ubuntu-12.04+gnome-classic?
[07:23] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: try it, it's not likely to break it any worse if it fails
[07:23] <yharrow> ok
[07:23] <etnt`> I've been googling, playing around with various config tools, I'm soon going mad...
[07:23] <yharrow> restarting
[07:23] <Nerf_Jihad> etnt`: you're on the air, what's your question?
[07:23] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: I want to raise/lower windows with a keyboard shortcut
[07:24] <etnt`> before 12.04 this was easy to configure, but now....grr...
[07:24] <Nerf_Jihad> alt-f8 / alt-f9
[07:25] <Nerf_Jihad> er, f9 / f10
[07:25] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: nope, doesn't work
[07:25] <Nerf_Jihad> do you have compiz installed?
[07:26] <etnt`> note that I'm using gnome-classic
[07:26] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: i purged nvidia-settings and nvidia-current
[07:27] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: did you install the x64 driver?
[07:27] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: what was the x64 link again?
[07:27] <Nerf_Jihad> http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/45533
[07:27] <ekaj> nerf do you know how to edit /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:27] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:28] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: yes, I seem to have compiz installed
[07:28] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: im gonna stop lightdm so brb
[07:28] <yharrow> in 5 minutes anyway
[07:28] <yharrow> its downloading
[07:28] <ekaj> didnt work[ but thats
[07:28] <ekaj> *thanks
[07:29] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: I started out with gnome-shell but couldn't turn off autoraise of windows, so I went back to gnome-classic, but then I can't configure these keyboard shortcuts....
[07:29] <Comics-Idees> server nemesis.irc.gr]
[07:29] <ekaj> Ugh, good night, thanks for all your help!
[07:29] <Nerf_Jihad> night
[07:29] <yharrow> night
[07:29] <Nerf_Jihad> etnt`: do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[07:29] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  brb stopping X and installing
[07:29] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: nope
[07:30] <Nerf_Jihad> installing that should provide a lot more customization
[07:30] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: thx, installing...
[07:31] <adrenaline_junky> hi
[07:31] <Nerf_Jihad> adrenaline_junky: howdy. how can we help thee?
[07:32] <aykoola> Hi guys! Question! The only way i can get 12.04 is sudo do-distro-upgrade. Is that going to leave any leftovers on my computer that would slow it down etc.? thanks!
[07:32] <crizis> it likely won't slow down or anything
[07:33] <Nerf_Jihad> aykoola: if you're lucky, the planets are in proper alignment, and you don't jinx it, it probably will perform as good or better than before
[07:33] <crizis> AlanBell: if you want an easy "reinstall", you can just create new user account after ugrade, then you won't have any leftovers in your profile
[07:33] <crizis> *aykoola
[07:33] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: would that help turning off autoraise in the gnome-shell too ?
[07:33] <aykoola> so it's no problem to upgrade using that command? :)
[07:33] <Nerf_Jihad> autoraise?
[07:33] <crizis> aykoola: on the desktop it's better to use graphical update-manager
[07:33] <crizis> cli version should work though..
[07:33] <Nerf_Jihad> aykoola: not usually, no. it's the default for good reason
[07:34] <aykoola> Thank you! Would do it via update manager, but i don't get the notice and all my settings are correct :(
[07:34] <aykoola> anyways, thank you, and see you after the upgrade!!!
[07:35] <Nerf_Jihad> oh hey
[07:35] <Nerf_Jihad> I have a question
[07:36] <Nerf_Jihad> my box throws a fit every boot because the hard drives aren't configured properly to automount
[07:36] <Nerf_Jihad> is there a silver bullet to autoconfig that, or do I have to go text-editing?
[07:37] <littleTurtle> hey everyone! I'm on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS livecd (mounted from USB through unetbootin). The reason why I'm here is because I cannot install to the disk: it already has four partitions. One of them is my primary, and two (count them) are filled with HP Recovery tools. Another one is labeled "SYSTEM" and I don't know exactly what it does, but it says "Boot" and "System Volume Information", as well as "bootmgr".
[07:38] <littleTurtle> I was wondering if said SYSTEM partition sounds like a Ubuntu partition relic from an earlier installation.
[07:38] <Nerf_Jihad> littleTurtle: the SYSTEM one is the windows 7 boot manager, it's only 100mb long and is needed for windows to not complain
[07:38] <Gyro54> Does USB 3.0 work on 11.10?
[07:39] <Nerf_Jihad> Gyro54: it should
[07:39] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: yes, I if I move focus to a partly hidden window, it raises it self on-top of all other windows
[07:39] <littleTurtle> thanks, Nerf_Jihad. so it's a useful one. then I really can't dual-boot at all on this machine without wiping the HP_TOOLS partition, right?
[07:39] <Nerf_Jihad> etnt, so you want it to remain behind the other windows?
[07:40] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: yes
[07:40] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: as I always have had it...
[07:40] <Nerf_Jihad> littleTurtle: HP_TOOLS is the OEM rescue partition that contains the necessary pieces to restore a factory image should you pooch the OS
[07:41] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  ok took a few minutes to figure how to route an error msg to a log via console
[07:41] <Nerf_Jihad> etnt`: having never desired that functionality, I'm unsure of how to properly progress in helping you attain it. best of luck
[07:41] <yharrow> but here is the error i got
[07:41] <yharrow> ERROR: this .run file is intended for the
[07:41] <yharrow> Linux-x86_64 platform, but you appear to be
[07:41] <yharrow> running on Linux-x86.  Aborting installation.
[07:41] <Gyro54> The 2.0 ports all work OK but if I plug into the 3.0 port it doesnt recognise the HD
[07:41] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: what's uname -a say on that box?
[07:41] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: so i just reinstalled x86_32
[07:42] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: Linux NPCU 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 22:11:24 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:42] <triad> Gyro54: HD , HDMI ?
[07:42] <Gyro54> Triad: external HD usb 3.0
[07:42] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: that's the box that has the problem, not the one with the fallback driver working?
[07:43] <yharrow> the  box with intel working is the livecd
[07:43] <yharrow> its the same box
[07:43] <k_pnc> logout
[07:43] <triad> Gyro54: what Ubuntu are you using ?
[07:43] <Gyro54> triad: It works in the 2.0 ports but not in the 3.0?
[07:43] <yharrow> this is the installed version
[07:43] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  glxinfo  now  = Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[07:43] <yharrow> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[07:44] <littleTurtle> Hmm.. Will converting C: into a logical partition do any harm to my configuration?
[07:44] <Nerf_Jihad> littleTurtle: yes, massive damage
[07:44] <triad> Gyro54: Look - http://askubuntu.com/questions/12139/does-ubuntu-support-usb-3-0 - some people talk there about your problem (i think) check it out - there are also some solutions...
[07:44] <yharrow> :3 :) c:
[07:44] <Gyro54> triad: 11.10
[07:45] <Gyro54> triad: thanks
[07:45] <littleTurtle> ... guess I'm installing Ubuntu on my portable hdd then, thanks! I'm  never buying one of these HP laptops again!
[07:45] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  thanks for all the hope so far
[07:46] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: you don't have two computers, do you?
[07:46] <yharrow> not usable
[07:46] <Gyro54> littleTurtle: You can do it but my brain is too old to remember how I did it. I have a HP dual booing fine
[07:47] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: my eepc screwn is smashed but if i get hdm to vga then i t may work
[07:47] <yharrow> hdmi
[07:47] <yharrow> since i got a tv and a hdmi/hdmi
[07:47] <Nerf_Jihad> littleTurtle: you can safely nuke the HP_TOOLS partition, you just lose the safety net in case you pooch it completely
[07:48] <yharrow> pooch meaning completely obliterate and destroy
[07:48] <littleTurtle> Hmm.. I think I'll settle for the external hdd option, thanks for the opinions. I don't want to cause any excessive damage on this rig. Thanks for the help!
[07:48] <Nerf_Jihad> pooch as in 'screw the pooch'
[07:48] <littleTurtle> haha xD
[07:48] <yharrow> u probably shouldnt
[07:48] <yharrow> u dont know where that pooch has been
[07:49] <yharrow> but man i have not herad that expression in a looong time
[07:50] <Nerf_Jihad> alright... so I've run out of whiskey and would like to progress in Skyward Sword
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: xD
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  u da man
[07:51] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: your flattery gets you nowhere. I'm bailing for the night.
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  i hope we meet again
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  dude
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: >>
[07:51] <yharrow> i wasnt trying to flatter u
[07:52] <yharrow> *sigh*
[07:52] <Nerf_Jihad> best of luck with your problem. the intel driver is the bare bones, built in driver for basic functionality. your GeForce 520MX is meant for the heavy lifting
[07:53] <Nerf_Jihad> GeForce = NVIDIA = you need the proper driver for your kernel
[07:53] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: thanks man. ill see if someone can help me get intel driver to work at the very least. NVIDIA seems like too much hassle at this point.
[07:53] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: i appreciate everything
[07:53] <Nerf_Jihad> uname -a tells you what kind of kernel you're running towards the end (i686)
[07:53] <yharrow> cool
[07:53] <Nerf_Jihad> but the error you gave me says that your installed OS is actually x86
[07:54] <yharrow> i gues so
[07:54] <Nerf_Jihad> which may or may not hamper your computer's usability
[07:54] <yharrow> ok
[07:54] <yharrow> so i should look for x64?
[07:54] <Nerf_Jihad> if you have an external drive, you can move your /home/ folder to it and preserve all your settings and files
[07:54] <Nerf_Jihad> then reinstall and move it back to restore your user data
[07:55] <yharrow> how do i back up instlled package list
[07:55] <Guest91844> koustubh
[07:55] <Nerf_Jihad> there's a command for that, one moment
[07:55] <Guest91844> 1542
[07:55] <yharrow> ok
[07:55] <Guest91844> 91844
[07:55] <jolareen> I'm trying to make "Mutt" send me email when I get sms.. this is working, but I want to be able to read what it says in the sms.. this does not work but i've tried to make script but &1 does not work echo | mutt<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-i "/var/spool/gammu/inbox/$1" -a "/var/spool/gammu/inbox/$1" -s "SMS Received"
[07:55] <abhinavmehta> I want ScreenFlow for ubuntu…something which can record my Desktop+Audio nicely…preferably close to like ScreenFlow
[07:55] <Nerf_Jihad> dpkg --get-selections >> installed.txt
[07:55] <abhinavmehta> suggestiosn..?
[07:56] <yharrow> thanks nerf
[07:56] <Nerf_Jihad> dammit
[07:56] <Nerf_Jihad> switching to vodka
[07:56] <yharrow> xD
[07:57] <abhinavmehta> anyone ScreenFlow for ubuntu..?
[07:57] <Nerf_Jihad> abhinavmehta: you had to pick a hard to type name, didn't you?
[07:57] <yharrow> wb dr_willis
[07:57] <dr_willis> moo  ;)
[07:57] <yharrow> xD
[07:57] <abhinavmehta> Nerf_Jihad: nope..
[07:58] <Nerf_Jihad> abhinavmehta: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php
[07:58] <dr_willis> at work so i may have to leave at any time.
[07:58] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: it sounds like an indian name
[07:58] <yharrow> dr_willis: okiedokes
[07:58] <abhinavmehta> Nerf_Jihad: interesting..thnx
[07:58] <tdhz77> Can the /media directory be shared over samba?
[07:58] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: I'm sure it is. I'm just not used to typing indian names with a BAC > 0.2
[07:59] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  yes.
[07:59] <yharrow> lolol xD
[07:59] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: u ok man?
[07:59] <tdhz77> dr_willis thanks, but I can get access to /srv/samba/share as in the doc's online, but not /media. Any suggestions?
[07:59] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: more and more the more I pour
[08:00] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: heh xD
[08:00] <dr_willis> tdhz77: ive added /media as a share in the smb.conf befor.
[08:00] <jolareen> I'm trying to make "Mutt" send me email when I get sms.. this is working, but I want to be able to read what it says in the sms.. this does not work but i've tried to make script but &1 does not work echo | mutt<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-i "/var/spool/gammu/inbox/$1" -a "/var/spool/gammu/inbox/$1" -s "SMS Received"
[08:01] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: im too scared of alchohol to drink much but when i do its awsum
[08:01] <tdhz77> dr_willis I have too, but I cannot access it through Windows.
[08:01] <Nerf_Jihad> jolareen: the last part there is the important bit. you should be able to use regexps to grab the actual content from the incoming SMS
[08:01] <yharrow> sooo anybody know how to install an intel driver?
[08:02] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  cant access /media. or cant access the dirs under /media?
[08:02] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: we've been over this, the intel driver isn't what you want
[08:02] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: yes but i rather have something than nothing. right now i cant even run minecraft at more htna like 3fps
[08:03] <yharrow> and in the live cd i get 30
[08:03] <tdhz77> dr_willis At one point I had access to /media, but no access to the external hd attached @ /media/500
[08:03] <Nerf_Jihad> the intel driver is already installed, though. it's what the computer uses when it can't use anything else
[08:03] <Nerf_Jihad> purge the nvidia settings again and try that
[08:03] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: then why does it say that GLX is missing
[08:03] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: and minecraf crashes completely
[08:04] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  the external will need proper permissions and ownership to be avvessable
[08:04] <Nerf_Jihad> GLX is OpenGL, which is the high-end graphics libraries that're needed to make it look pretty
[08:04] <yharrow> try what? to install intel agian?
[08:04] <tdhz77> dr_willis I've chmod 777 and its NTFS, what else do I need to do?
[08:04] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: in my box i cant even start minecraft i think immissing a library
[08:04] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  you do not chmid ntfs
[08:05] <tdhz77> dr_willis ok, thanks for that tip.
[08:05] <dr_willis> mount it with the right options
[08:05] <tdhz77> dr_willis here is my fstab
[08:05] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: intel is already installed. sudo apt-get install freeglut3-dev
[08:06] <tdhz77> media/500  ntfs   defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0  0
[08:07] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: ok installd freeglut3-dev
[08:07] <Nerf_Jihad> try running minecraft
[08:07] <tdhz77> dr willis I named the devices using UUID throughblkid
[08:08] <Choom> greetings
[08:08] <Choom> what's the current gcc version in ubuntu server?
[08:08] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  why not use ntgs-3g. and i think you want a diff.  dmask and fmask
[08:08] <Choom> clang is also acceptable (and preferable)
[08:08] <tdhz77> dr_willis, I forgot to mention I'm running server 12.04
[08:09] <dr_willis> shouldent matter.
[08:09] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not init GLX
[08:09] <tdhz77> dr_willis ok, do you know what the masks might need to be?
[08:09] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g homepage has loads of examples
[08:09] <dr_willis> 002 for masks i think
[08:10] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  when i install libgl1-mesa-swrast it works but its dead slow
[08:10] <sage> Hello guys, I have this sound problem, whatever audio/video i play through any player.. there is constant disturbance (like a mosquito sound.) in the output.. this happened after i installed some updates via update manager (before it was completely perfect)
[08:10] <sage> Hello guys, I have this sound problem, whatever audio/video i play through any player.. there is constant disturbance (like a mosquito sound.) in the output.. this happened after i installed some updates via update manager (before it was completely perfect)
[08:11] <tdhz77> dr_willis, would a ext4 filesystem solve the problem?
[08:12] <dr_willis> tdhz77: then you can use normal permissions . so yes
[08:12] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:13] <sage> anyone peeps ? i
[08:13] <tdhz77> dr_willis As much as I would love to change now to ext4, I don't have the physical capacity to transfer data and format without data loss. I'm getting an error on boot now fsick Warning line 13 on fstab
[08:13] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: did i tell you that I have an optimus card btw?
[08:14] <sage> Hello guys, I have this sound problem, whatever audio/video i play through any player.. there is constant disturbance (like a mosquito sound.) in the output.. this happened after i installed some updates via update manager (before it was completely perfect)
[08:14] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: don't see how that makes a difference, considering your hardware reports that it's got a GeForce 520MX
[08:15] <StarryNight> i been using the 520 never had a problem
[08:15] <Nerf_Jihad> sage: get your config in a paste, share with us the link
[08:16] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: are you running on apple hardware?
[08:16] <sage> whats command to do that Nerf_Jihad
[08:17] <rymate1234> sage: sounds like a bug to me
[08:18] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  no im not
[08:18] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  its a samsung computer
[08:18] <sage> it was all well before
[08:18] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: ive installed nvidia current serveral times now
[08:20] <Nerf_Jihad> alright, I give up
[08:20] <Nerf_Jihad> me and my liquor are going elsewhere for the night
[08:22] <kanliot> i think i need to increase the virtual desktop size in order to get multiple monitors to work side by side.  are there instructions on how to do this in ubuntu?
[08:22] <dr_willis> kanliot:  never seen that needing tobe done. whats yiur video card/chips
[08:22] <kanliot> amd 760
[08:22] <kanliot> lubuntu
[08:23] <dr_willis> The flgrx drivers may have some settings to enable their xinerama stuff.
[08:23] <dr_willis> in the fglrx config tool. but i forget its name
[08:24] <kanliot> i'm using open source drivers, they work great
[08:24] <oCean> !afk > Nerf_Sleep
[08:24] <dr_willis> that may be why you xant use multi-monitors......
[08:24] <kanliot> i found an article on stack exhange on how to config xorg.conf
[08:24] <kanliot> gonna try that, please wait here ;)
[08:25] <dr_willis> but i was about to go get a soda......'  ;)
[08:25] <kanliot> lolo
[08:25]  * dr_willis takes his phone with him to go get a soda
[08:25] <maciejjo> Hi, can i clear DNS cache in ubuntu?
[08:27] <maciejjo> when i ping from my linksys router some address, it always returns correct ip
[08:27] <tdhz77> dr_willis I'm going to reinstall ubuntu server should i install samba after install or use the option to install samba from disc?
[08:27] <maciejjo> but from ubuntu machine connected to it, dig returns old NS
[08:28] <maciejjo> but somwhere online i read that ubuntu doesn't cache dns records
[08:29] <hateball> maciejjo: is this on 12.04 ?
[08:30] <hateball> maciejjo: since in 12.04, dnsmasq has been added as a default
[08:30] <maciejjo> yes
[08:30] <maciejjo> its 12.04
[08:32] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  i dont see how either way would matter in  relation to your problem
[08:32] <dr_willis> !info dnsmasq
[08:32] <denova> Hello,everybody!this is my first time to use Utunbu and Xchat.
[08:32] <rymate1234> Cool
[08:32] <crizis> Utumbu :D
[08:33] <tdhz77> dr_willis I've been trying to fix this for about 8 hours now. Hopefully I can start from scratch and things will work.
[08:33] <rymate1234> Liking it?
[08:33] <rymate1234> :)
[08:33] <Guest45447> /nick nick
[08:33] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  get what going? if you mount the ntfs witht he right options. then they would be  accessable from the samba shares
[08:34] <Guest45447> nick nick
[08:34] <rymate1234> Lol guest
[08:34] <tdhz77> dr_willis I changed my fstab to reflect what was on the ubuntu documentation. I then was getting a username and password prompt. I enter the user/pass, but windows said I didn't have permission.
[08:34] <fidel> Guest76433: /nick NEWNICKNAME
[08:34] <hateball> maciejjo: well it shouldnt normally be a problem, since dnsmasq uses TTL like it should, but if you've just changed the IP I guess it can be annoying
[08:34] <dr_willis>  /nick Bill_Gates_
[08:35] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  you did give the user on linux a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a THEUSERNAME' ?
[08:35] <one> anyone know best way to import fonts to LibreOffice Writer?
[08:35] <crizis> one: you can just click on any .ttf font from the file manager
[08:36] <crizis> one: this opens it in font viewer, where you can click install
[08:36] <crizis> one: restart libre and it's available there
[08:36] <nlici> Hi All !i have brother printer dcp-165 c.I found the drivers through synptic .When i send the document to pinter it shows receiving data but it is not printing what can be the problem ?before i had this problem as well when the printer was connected with usb cable it was doing the same problem with the printers but when  connected it by the wireless it worked but now i have to change it to brother again please help me
[08:36] <tdhz77> dr_willis no :(
[08:36] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  then i think only guest shares would work for the,
[08:36] <dr_willis> the user
[08:37] <maciejjo> hm, restarting dnsmasq doesnt seem to help, one in 5 times using dig i get the correct record
[08:37] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  i also normally edi thte smb.conf and enable the homes share.
[08:37] <tdhz77> dr_willis I think that would explain why I could access /srv/samba/share, but not /media?
[08:38] <hateball> maciejjo: you could try commenting out dnsmasq completely as well... to see if that solves your problem
[08:38] <Wavelight_> hello
[08:38] <nlici> how can i open rpm file?
[08:38] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  you said you could access /media  but not  /media/externaldrive
[08:39] <dr_willis> nlici:  why do you need to/
[08:39] <nlici> Hi All !i have brother printer dcp-165 c.I found the drivers through synptic .When i send the document to pinter it shows receiving data but it is not printing what can be the problem ?before i had this problem as well when the printer was connected with usb cable it was doing the same problem with the printers but when  connected it by the wireless it worked but now i have to change it to brother again please help me
[08:39] <nlici> andhow can i open rpm file?
[08:39] <hateball> !alien | nlici
[08:39] <dr_willis> you normally dont use rpms on ubuntu
[08:39] <DJones> !rpm | nlici
[08:40] <tdhz77> dr_willis at one point I had access to /media, but after editing and trying to fix the problem. I lost accessability to /media too.
[08:40] <railsraider> i wanna change a line in a file with sed, first line i grab via grep, line to replace i awk  a text file making it one line how can i do hat
[08:40] <nlici> i see but i got it from brother.co.il
[08:40] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  sometimes it just pays to break dowen and read the samba book ;) in the samba-doc package theres like 3 books that get instlled to /usr/share/docs i think
[08:40] <nlici> it is a secure site
[08:41] <dr_willis> nlici:  see if they have a .deb and its possible the driver/thing is allreeady in the repos.
[08:41] <tdhz77> dr_willis so you are right. I had access to /media and at one point I had access to my shares. "/media/500/files" I installed webadmin and have been doomed ever since.
[08:41]  * dr_willis is not sure what a secure site has to do with it...
[08:41] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  webmin is.. well... bad.
[08:42] <nlici> no i mean it was written that it can be quit dangerous
[08:42] <tdhz77> dr_willis Ya, I've concluded the same. :)
[08:42] <nlici> thats why i tought mybe un known source
[08:42] <dr_willis> nlici:  yes.. using RPMS on a DEB based system - is not a good idea
[08:42] <rymate1234> Webmin ftw
[08:42] <nlici> ok i will check again
[08:42] <nlici> but what makes the problem so that i can not able to print
[08:42] <nlici> ?
[08:42] <dr_willis> like putting gasoline in a diesle engine,. :)
[08:43] <dr_willis> nlici:  no idea on the pinter.. we been distracted by your other questions.. ;P
[08:43] <dr_willis> nlici:  this printer attatcched via usb you said? or networked?
[08:43] <nlici> usb
[08:44] <dr_willis> i would try configreuing it via the cups web interface and checking the logs.
[08:44] <tdhz77> dr_willis I've reinstalled ubuserv. Do you think if I ignored fstab and just manually mounted I could see if it was the fstab was the root of the problem?
[08:44] <dr_willis>  http://localhost:631   for cups printer config interface
[08:44] <ibra> hi
[08:45] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  if you mount the drive with the right options.  using fstab or not wouldent matter
[08:45] <dr_willis>  or was 631for swat? I get confused in my old age
[08:46] <dr_willis> nlici:  for my brother printer - cups showed several drivers i could use. i went down the list and tried them all untill i found one that worked for me. My printer is networked however.
[08:46] <Wavelight_> I wanna install a Ubuntu server on a tape drive or on a driver after configuration to secure FIZICAL protection to write, is this possbile ?
[08:47] <dr_willis> so its a bit more complex

[08:50] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an rss reader that can show new feeds to popup automaticly
[08:51] <dr_willis> i wonder if conky can do that.. it can do most everything else.
[08:51] <dr_willis> they wouldent popup however.
[08:51] <dr_willis> be neat to have a tickertape of rss feeds at the bottom of the screen
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> i tryed many, would be very interesting indeed like in notification area or something
[08:52] <sage> Hello guys, I have this sound problem, whatever audio/video i play through any player.. there is constant disturbance (like a mosquito sound.) in the output.. this happened after i installed some updates via update manager (before it was completely perfect)
[08:52]  * dr_willis rembers his G15 keybords lcd screen allready does that......
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> lol you got a keyboard showing rss?
[08:53] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  yep. G15 - has a little LCD screen - can show differnt info via applets
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> sage:player online?
[08:53] <GerardM-> how do I install a new keyboard method .. for the Batak script ??
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:cool!
[08:54] <vampirnata> anyone know if conky can behave similar to top in console?
[08:54] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  they did have a fancy keybord that had a lcd that could actually play videos and stuff  on its lcd. but thats not been avail for ages.
[08:54] <vampirnata> at the moment conky spits out a new report every second instead of refreshing
[08:54] <dr_willis> so conky has a rss feed feature?
[08:55] <GerardM-> I have a .keylayout file
[08:55] <monokrome> Hello. I am trying to use a different window manager, but this particular window manager is in ~/bin/dwm. Is it possible to use the home directory (~) in a .desktop file?
[08:55] <sage> lotuspsychje,  no, i am using VLC
[08:55] <vampirnata> dr_willis: what do you mean?
[08:55] <dr_willis> monokrome:   that dir should be in the edefault path if it exists.
[08:56] <monokrome> dr_willis: It's my home directory.
[08:56] <vampirnata> dr_willis: if you run top in a console it refreshes stats, conky doesn't
[08:56] <dr_willis> conky should refresh in real time  also.
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> sage:maybe an update changed something on audio driver?
[08:56] <dr_willis> setable via its configs.
[08:56] <vampirnata> it is refreshing but on a new bunch of lines
[08:57] <sage> yes lotuspsychje what should i do
[08:57] <dr_willis> new bunch of lines?  Err.  you are using conky as a cli app and watching its clli output?
[08:57] <vampirnata> yes
[08:57] <sage> reconfigure the whole audio thingy ?
[08:57] <dr_willis> i always watch it on the desktop :)
[08:57] <vampirnata> and i know it's meant as a X app :)
[08:57] <dr_willis> htop is nicer then top also in most ways
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> sage:im not sure, try to look into /var/logs if you find any error for audio
[08:57] <vampirnata> but i'm running headless
[08:57] <Wavelight_> can anyone tell me if I can install Ubuntu Server and than PHISICALLY protect the hard disck against any other erite ?
[08:57] <Wavelight_> write?
[08:58] <Wavelight_> the ssd have that option, to turn off writing by hardware means?
[08:58] <dr_willis> Wavelight_:  the use of a read only / has been ongoing 'goal' by many distro makers and other devs. Im not sure its totally possible at this time
[08:58] <vampirnata> dr_willis: htop works better. thanks :)
[08:58] <dr_willis> i think its part of the  reason the move to using /run/ was done in  12/04
[08:58] <dr_willis> 12.04
[08:59] <dr_willis> htop is nice
[08:59] <Wavelight_> I can install Ubuntu Server on a regular hdd and than open the hdd and modify it-s hardware to make sure it can only write
[08:59] <tdhz77> dr_willis I hope these people get paid for writing this type of in depth documentation.
[08:59] <Wavelight_> I don-t think it-s such a big thing
[08:59] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  th samba doc package you mean docs?
[09:00] <dr_willis> Wavelight_:  aparently it is..
[09:00] <dr_willis> you can set up differnt partitions and have parts of / read only.
[09:00] <tdhz77> dr_willis indeed.
[09:00] <Wavelight_> to get PHISICAL protection against any data change
[09:00] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  i think 3 of the books were comercial books at one time.
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> sage:try to pastebin the error here in channel
[09:00] <sage> ok lotuspsychje
[09:01] <Wavelight_> I understand, but that is just a virtual protection against writing a file
[09:01] <sage> lotuspsychje, there are plenty of logs in here.. which one should i put on pastebin
[09:02] <aykoola> hi! me again! it works perfectly!!!!! upgrade worked! but i have a question! i enabled the hide launcher in unity and set the upper left corner to be a sensitive spot, but it laggs very much. any way that can be fixed? TY!
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> sage:try to find anything relevant of audio errors
[09:03] <Wavelight_> if someone hacks into the system it would be very easy to take the write protection off
[09:03] <Arash> hi :)
[09:03] <tdhz77> dr_willis Thank you! All is good in the world.
[09:03] <dr_willis> Wavelight_: 'very easy' is  bit paranoid.
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:encrypt the whole drive
[09:03] <Arash> !user
[09:04] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  i see people asking how to share ntfs every so often.. i never can rember the right options
[09:04] <Arash> !chat ubottu
[09:04] <tdhz77> UUID=X mount point ntfs defaults 0 0 :) Now you know.
[09:04] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  you could post a question on askubuntu.com and answer ityourself :) so its easier to find thee exact options tht worked
[09:04] <dr_willis> err.. ntfs is  read only by default..
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !info pysdm
[09:05] <Wavelight_> hmmm, maybe I am old fashin type but I think there is nothing wrong in being 100% sure that NOWBODY could ever reach into the router to make modifications
[09:05] <dr_willis> Wavelight_:  'router' ? or a pc?
[09:05] <tdhz77> dr_willis Will do.
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:i think paranoid is good thing these days
[09:06]  * dr_willis think its getting away from ubuntu support related.. ;)
[09:06] <Wavelight_> router
[09:07] <dr_willis> ollo you msg everyone that uses the word 'away'  ?
[09:07] <Wavelight_> you don-t have any friend who is using this kind of protection?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_you could install security stuff for ubuntu for intruders not access your hd
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:iptables,snort,encryption
[09:07] <rubik> Hello, anyone using ubuntu on a thinkpad x1 ? I'm having a problem with the battery. Suppose to be rated around 4 hours of usage. I am getting less than an hour and the battery indicator is jumping all over the place
[09:07] <Wavelight_> I understand, but are they 100% safe?
[09:07] <dr_willis> Wavelight_:   routeeres would still keep  some stuff writeable in ram i imagine. as a ram disk. but routers are special  cases..
[09:08] <dr_willis> Nothing is  100% safe
[09:08] <railsraider> can anyone please help with sed? i need to replace a variable content with another variable content sed -e  's/"$CURRENT_SERVERS_IN_NAGIOS"/"$NEW_SERVERS"/' hostgroups.cfg
[09:08] <tdhz77> dr_willis What's sad about 8 hours ago, I had everything working. I was trying to be lazy by installing webadmin and got burned.
[09:08] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  youmean 'webmin' ?
[09:08] <tdhz77> dr_willis yes, it's getting late.
[09:09] <dr_willis> !webmin
[09:09] <Wavelight_> I understand that you can write something in the ram, but my purpose is to ensure that after a reboot the router will be 100% spyware clean
[09:09] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  check out 'ebox' sometime if you wnt a web config tool
[09:09] <profiler1982> gnome shell or unity 5.0?????
[09:09] <Wavelight_> is there some king of software like deep freez for the Ubuntu Server?
[09:09] <railsraider> i got it
[09:10] <dontknow> Wavelight_, i don't think so
[09:10] <dr_willis> if you lock down things so hard. that you cant update the system for security issues... is it  more or less secure?
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:when you are targeted, nothing can help you
[09:10] <tdhz77> dr_willis I'm just trying to learn about servers/networking. ebox will be next.
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:but you can make it very hard for intruders though
[09:11] <tdhz77> dr_willis thanks again for pointing me in the right direction. Cheers!
[09:11] <Wavelight_> thank you so much, I apreciate your answers
[09:11] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  take care.
[09:12] <Wavelight_> from your point of view a dedicated router ( in plastic ) is safer than a linux distribution ?
[09:12] <dr_willis> most of  them are specialized linux disrtubitions
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[09:13] <Wavelight_> you mean like a single flopy linux distribution ?
[09:14] <T3X> How do i check if a software dependencies all installed and ready to use?
[09:14] <dr_willis> i recall seeing some routers having a few gb of flash befor,
[09:14] <dr_willis> there  are linux-router-project disrtos out there.  some are flashable to real routers
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/security.html
[09:15] <Arash> how to kill a process ?
[09:15] <dr_willis> Arash:  kill, xkill, killall   depends on your needs
[09:16] <Arash> for example
[09:16] <Arash> killing pidgin
[09:16] <Arash> how can I do that ?
[09:16] <dr_willis> killall pidgin
[09:16] <dr_willis> or run xkill and click itts window
[09:16] <Arash> hmm
[09:16] <Arash> what does kill do ?
[09:16] <dr_willis> see 'man kill'
[09:16] <Arash> !kill
[09:16] <dr_willis> kills a process by its pid.
[09:17] <Arash> how can I get PIDs ?
[09:17] <dr_willis> ps command...
[09:17] <dr_willis> see 'man ps' ;)
[09:17] <dr_willis> ps ax | grep appname    normally is what i use
[09:18] <Arash> !man ps
[09:18] <dr_willis> man is a bash command.. not  a bot triggrr
[09:18] <Arash> ok ty ;)
[09:19] <dontknow> look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MShbP3OpASA#t=2997s
[09:20] <DJones> dontknow: Is there any reason you've posted that in the channel?
[09:21] <dontknow> DJones, it is funny
[09:21] <Wheemp> Anyone alive that got experiance in installing from a USB to a computer without a CD/DVD-Rom?.. getting error on drivers for CD so it exits the installation
[09:21] <DJones> dontknow: Its not Ubuntu support related though, please stay on topic
[09:21] <dr_willis> Wheemp:  what ubuntu did you put on the usb, and how did you put it on there
[09:22] <Wheemp> dr_willis: ubuntu server edition, with alot of different iso to usb programs
[09:23] <dr_willis> the usb basically emulates a cd. so the installer sees it as  cd. I recall there being issues with the server iso installing from USB.
[09:23] <dr_willis> desktop iso  did not have tghe same issue.
[09:23] <dr_willis> but i thought that got fixed in 12.04
[09:23] <Wheemp> dr_willis: Ah, do you know what the differance between server/desktop edition is? i guess you can skip the gnome/kde etc in desktop installation to?
[09:24] <dr_willis> i just use desktop
[09:24] <Wheemp> I can get it to run atleast, just asks for the CD drivers and when i say i don't have any it just errors. IE it doesn't start to download files from network, just for them over CD
[09:24] <fidel> Wheemp: you cant unselect i.e. kde/gnome in the normal install process
[09:24] <fidel> you can for sure remove them afterwards
[09:24] <Wheemp> fidel: Ok, just wipe em after installation then..
[09:24] <fidel> yep
[09:25] <fidel> while server install itself ends up with more pre-selecting and then installing
[09:25] <Wheemp> Normaly use Debian server installations but i thought i'd try Ubuntu on one server, apparently they are faster with pack updates
[09:26] <fidel> they are faster with package updates?
[09:26] <Wheemp> But i've been trying to get it installed for 2 days now.. and i just get that shitty error
[09:26] <fidel> depends when and with what you compare it debian-.wise or am i wrong?
[09:26] <fidel> Wheemp: what error?
[09:26] <Wheemp> fidel: that it can't install the OS because it has no CD-ROM drivers
[09:28] <fidel> ?
[09:28] <Wheemp> fidel: what?
[09:28] <fidel> install it from usb then
[09:28] <fidel> i dont understand your problem/issue
[09:28] <Wheemp> fidel: i can't because it needs a CD-ROM to read files from, i can't get it to retrive files from network
[09:28] <fidel> !details > Wheemp
[09:29] <Wheemp> fidel: ?
[09:29] <Wheemp> fidel: i explained it twice.. scroll up.
[09:29] <Wheemp> fidel: even got an answer that it was problems with server versions and USB installations
[09:29] <Wheemp> fidel: so whats your point?
[09:30] <fidel> well - then everything is great - ignore my question
 So, I think it would be harder to modify a hdd to make it read only, but is there a way to make a bootable cd with an already configured Ubuntu Server ?
[09:31] <fidel> Wheemp: i was trying to help - therefor understand your issue - which would need a short resume. but ignore that now ;)
[09:31] <Wavelight_> I mean to run the server with the live cd only
[09:31] <Wheemp> fidel: which iso to usb program is recommended?
[09:32] <__Alex_> Wheemp: On Windows or Ubuntu?
[09:32] <Wheemp> __Alex_: Windows
[09:33] <__Alex_> Wheemp: google pendrivelinux, they have a good one
[09:34] <Wheemp> __Alex_: ok, tried a few this weekend but none worked apparently
[09:34] <deepspeed> There are only 3 decent programs for putting linux on usb's.
[09:35] <Wheemp> deepspeed: and those are?
[09:35] <deepspeed> The Universal USB Creator, the LiLi (Linux Live) creator, and Unetbootin, which is for linux, not windows.
[09:35] <deepspeed> the first two are windows.
[09:35] <Wheemp> Unetbootin got a windows version to..
[09:35] <__Alex_> Wheemp: deepspeed: Unetbootin has a windows port.
[09:35] <Wheemp> Tried those 3
[09:35] <deepspeed> I have all three.  I've had success and problems with all theree
[09:36] <deepspeed> None is better than the other, imo, but each has its own features.
[09:36] <Wheemp> but i'll try with unversal usb creator again and the desktop version
[09:36] <__Alex_> Wheemp: Does your BIOS support USB booting?
[09:36] <geirha> Wheemp: Did you try to follow the instructions on Ubuntu's download page?
[09:36] <deepspeed> Did you make sure you changed your boot order in BIOS?
[09:37] <Wheemp> Yes/Yes, the problem is not getting the installation to start, problem is that it asks for CD/DVD-ROM drivers which i don't have
[09:37] <Wheemp> So when i choose NO it says "installation failed, can't retrive files"
[09:37] <Wheemp> If i say yes i need to prove it with drivers from floppy
[09:37] <deepspeed> wait.. so the distro installer works, but won't install cuz it asks for drivers?
[09:37] <Wheemp> provide
[09:37] <Wheemp> deepspeed: Yes
[09:38] <deepspeed> derp..
[09:38] <Wheemp> I don't have a floppy nor a CD/DVD-Rock
[09:38] <deepspeed> idk, dude.  I'm just a hacker, not tech support :D
[09:38] <Wheemp> its a rack server with a RAID 6 installation of 5 hdds
[09:38] <deepspeed> and that's a new one on me.
[09:38] <Wheemp> its connected to a DHCP connection which i've tried from the Intel boot selection within the NICs
[09:39] <Wheemp> So there is nothing wrong there, if it tries to get files over internet it will be able to
[09:39] <Wheemp> just that it blabs about that shitty CD-ROM
[09:39] <Wheemp> "we can't detect a CD-ROM"
[09:39] <Wheemp> no shit.. there is none
[09:39] <deepspeed> Did you check the checksum after you installed the iso to make sure it isn't corrupted?
[09:39] <Wheemp> deepspeed: I've done it 20 times..
[09:39] <Wheemp> and yes, no errors in checksum
[09:39] <deepspeed> just checking.
[09:39] <Wheemp> or 40 maybe
[09:40] <alambra> v
[09:40] <deepspeed> I'm bad about not looking at checksums until stuff doesn't work lol
[09:40] <Wheemp> and i don't feel like setting up a server for a netinstall when its for 1-2 servers..
[09:41] <__Alex_> Wheemp: i know i might sound like an ubuntu traitor, but you should try Debian, which is older, more stable, and better for servers. Maybe it's an ubuntu specific prolem
[09:41] <Wheemp> haven't tried the desktop installation though..
[09:41] <Wheemp> __Alex_: i normaly use Debian
[09:41] <Wheemp> thought i'd use Ubuntu because its recommended by everyone
[09:41] <Wheemp> But it looks like i have to ditch that idea..
[09:42] <deepspeed> Maybe try bodhi linux or an offshoot of sorts.  Lots of them are beginning to impress me.
[09:42] <Wheemp> deepspeed: Was setting up a new webserver so i thought i'd use ubuntu on that one..
[09:43] <jiohdi> bodhi is 32bit and based on lucid if that matters, but its great for netbooks
[09:43] <Wheemp> but i'll go back to debian.. already got 40 servers running with that so i'll keep on using things i know how it works.. :P
[09:43] <theadmin> Wheemp: Ubuntu's mostly a desktop distro.
[09:43] <Wheemp> theadmin: thought the server installation was for servers..
[09:43] <Wheemp> or is it just a cool name to use?
[09:43] <theadmin> Wheemp: Well, yeah, it's not like the repos are any different. Just the set of preinstalled packages differs, that's all
[09:44] <Wheemp> theadmin: Ok so its a server installation recommended for desktops?
[09:44] <__Alex_> Lol
[09:44] <deepspeed> I see.  I mentioned bodhi because it's a ubuntu 10.04 base, and will probably be a little easier on your system, and more stable, but it might take a little customizing for what you're wanting.  It's mostly a desktop distro.
[09:44] <Comics-Idees> hi
[09:44] <deepspeed> hi
[09:44] <theadmin> Wheemp: Um... wut? It's just an Ubuntu without the GUI and with various software that's likely to be present on servers.
[09:44] <Comics-Idees> Is there any ebook to learn cli commands for ubuntu??
[09:45] <Wheemp> Nods, i don't use linux for desktops atm, can't get it to work with the programs i need just jet..
[09:45] <Wheemp> yet
[09:45] <deepspeed> Comics-Idees, google
[09:45] <theadmin> Comics-Idees: "man intro" for starters.
[09:45] <deepspeed> Wheemp, what programs are those?
[09:45] <Comics-Idees> theadmin man intro is a cli command? or an ebook
[09:45] <deepspeed> it's a cli command
[09:45] <Wheemp> deepspeed: Flash/Silverlight/html5
[09:45] <theadmin> Comics-Idees: "man" is a command, short for MANual. "intro" is the manual page to read.
[09:46] <one> is there a better word processor for ubuntu than OfficeLibre??
[09:46] <deepspeed> hmm, idk much abt html5, but I know flash works great on my linux distro.
[09:46] <Comics-Idees> thanks
[09:46] <__Alex_> Comics-Idees: Or go to youtube and search "UNIX Terminal tutorial", or something like that
[09:46] <deepspeed> one, there is openoffice.org
[09:46] <theadmin> Wheemp: Flash is available for Linux, there is Moonlight, and HTML 5 is... uh... It's just a web markup thingy, not a program.
[09:46] <one> thanks deep
[09:46] <deepspeed> it's a more full suite, but bulkier
[09:46] <one> can I import custom fonts?
[09:47] <__Alex_> one: Yes
[09:47] <Wheemp> theadmin: moonlight can't handle DRM/WideVine
[09:47] <theadmin> one: Sure, just copy them over to, uh, /usr/share/fonts/TTF
[09:47] <deepspeed> I think so.  It's almost identical to micro$oft office.
[09:47] <jiohdi> one, yes, just drop them into a home folder called .fonts
[09:47] <deepspeed> plus some extra awesomeness
[09:47] <one> excellent
[09:47] <jiohdi> or does that not work any more?
[09:47] <Comics-Idees> thanksserve
[09:48] <theadmin> There's almost no difference between Open- and Libreoffice, except the fact that LibreOffice has cleaner code => faster
[09:48] <theadmin> LO is an OO fork
[09:48] <theadmin> So
[09:48] <deepspeed> I thought it was lighter on some of the features, theadmin
[09:49] <theadmin> deepspeed: Not really... It has everything OpenOffice has, even more cool stuff
[09:49] <__Alex_> How about KOffice?
[09:49] <theadmin> __Alex_: You mean Calligra.
[09:49] <deepspeed> ah.  I haven't used oo.org in a few years now.  Have never seen them side by side to know.
[09:49] <theadmin> It's fine, but has no format support for exporting except ODT
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> deepspeed  http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2011/04/oracle-gives-up-on-ooo-after-community-forks-the-project/
[09:50] <theadmin> Err, ODF
[09:51] <vvompy> hi, is somebody familiar with encrypted partitions? I encrypted a partition a year ago and I somehow remember that I had to type in a password and I forgot that password (which I used to decrypt the partition within nautilus), but I wrote down a longer password which I created during the generation of the partition because I thought that one was the relevant one. Do I have the chance to open that partition again?
[09:51] <__Alex_> vvompy: Nope, unless you are a cryptologist
[09:52] <deepspeed> nice link
[09:52] <d8bhatta> Hello, how can I configure .peb file so that I can login into the server without using peb key, now i am logiing like ssh -i serverfile.pef user@server
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> d8bhatta  bypassing security is not or not well supported here
[09:53] <dr_willis> hmm.. never done it that way,. i just generagte a key and ssh-copy-id servername :) so i  can login without needing to entgter a passord
[09:54] <dr_willis> never even heard of a .peb key. ;)  dident mean .pub ?
[09:54] <deepspeed> I thought .deb at first, but then was like waitwut...
[09:54] <d8bhatta>  dr_willis: ye..its like .pub, client provided me the file
[09:54] <vvompy> __Alex_: So can you give me an overview how the procedure is? For what are the different passwords and what is this actual keyfile?
[09:55] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: how you are doing the stuff for you, is it like copying .pub file into something like id_rsa.pub?
[09:55] <dr_willis> the pub key lets him login to your server  dont it.. you sort of asked how to do the revrese
[09:56] <hroi> hello
[09:56] <deepspeed> hi
[09:56] <hroi> Im looking for a "data"-server or ehm  nas-storage server I can run on top of my ubuntu
[09:56] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  on my client i just do a ssh-keygen, then ssh-copy-id<EMAIL_ADDRESS> then login that one time..    then after that i dont need to enter pasword
[09:56] <hroi> does anyone know of such a package for ubuntu?
[09:57] <dr_willis> nas devices can share files differnt ways, nfs, ftp, samba, ssh
[09:57] <dr_willis> depends on what you want accessing the data and how.
[09:58] <dr_willis> windows shares = samba
[09:58] <__Alex_> vvompy: When encrypting a partition, you can use a keyfile or a passphrase or both for the encryption, If you chose both, then both have to be available.
[09:59] <__Alex_> vvompy: It's like putting locks on a door
[09:59] <__Alex_> vvompy: you need all the keys
[09:59] <Anomie211> Can anyone help me get the Canon iR3300 printer working? I've downloaded the .PPD file from the canon website and ran that. Which lets me print sometimes (but most of the time it does nothing), but takes AGES to go through, tells me theres no toner, etc...?
[09:59] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: are you keeping .pub file into ~/.ssh/ folder?
[09:59] <d8bhatta> and the login
[09:59] <d8bhatta> then
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> hroi  i use my old remote pc for storage, no extra software needed
[10:00] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  i dont manually mess with them. ssh-copy-id puts them in thee right place in .ssh for me. so im not sure where they are going'
[10:01] <dr_willis> Anomie211:  check the forums and askubuntu.com yet about that printer? could be some known issues/ and work arounds.
[10:01] <dr_willis> i wont buy canon any more. gave away my canon printer last month.
[10:02] <hroi> Monkey, yeb,  just looking for something easy to maintain, looking to share 8TB of space
[10:02] <jneko> man
[10:02] <jneko> I realy love
[10:02] <jneko> Ubuntu
[10:02] <bobbobbio> me too
[10:02] <bobbobbio> its just like this
[10:02] <jneko> it's so amazing
[10:02] <bobbobbio> overwhelming feeling
[10:02] <jneko> of joy
[10:02] <theadmin> hroi: Have you checked Owncloud? It's like Dropbox, but you can host it yourself.
[10:02] <bobbobbio> I just like can't describe
[10:02] <bobbobbio> my love for it
[10:02] <hroi> theadmin:  hmm, no havent, will look
[10:02] <oCean> bobbobbio: do you have a technical question? Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[10:03] <dr_willis> i think we have  a duo of spam bots.
[10:03] <theadmin> hroi: http://owncloud.org/
[10:04] <d8bhatta>  dr_willis: ok, are you using the command like ssh-copy-id  -i  publicfile.pub<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:04] <MonkeyDust> hroi  this is almost two years old, but lay be useful http://www.sohoadvisers.com/tutorials/ubuntu-linux/create-a-nas-using-ubuntu-linux
[10:04] <hroi> theadmin:  thanks, looks promising for other things Im working on,
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> may*
[10:04] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  i just uae ssh-copy-id user@server
[10:04] <hroi> theadmin: does it have a windows client?
[10:04] <dr_willis> im using the  simpelist case.
[10:04] <hroi> theadmin:  to share with windows home users?
[10:04] <theadmin> hroi: It's web-based. You can also mount it as WebDAV.
[10:05] <theadmin> hroi: So yes, it has a "Windows client", you could say.
[10:05] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: then how you are referening the pub file provided by your client?
[10:05] <hroi> theadmin:  very nice :)
[10:05] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  i dont need to. its using the files i generated with ssh-keygen
[10:05] <hroi> MonkeyDust: thanks,
[10:06] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  so im guessing its using my default .ssh/whatever.pub file
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> hroi  mind: don't use webmin
[10:07] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  it then uses the password that one/first time to verify its me. and puts the pub in the files on the right place on the server
[10:07] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: keygen generates pub files based on your computer, you can give this pub file to other so that they can access your server, But here my case is I am provided with .pub file and have to use it in the way that I can login into the server without referencing the file name all the time
[10:08] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  im rereading that.. and it looks like somthings backwards to me.. but im not a ssh expert
[10:09] <dr_willis> the pub key is made by the client.. and   ssent to the server..
[10:09] <Duality> hi how do i copy the contents of a folder rather then the folder ?
[10:09] <dr_willis> you dont give the pub key to someone so they can get INTO your server.. (or am i confused?)
[10:09] <nsadmin> I'm pretty sure the pub key and the priv key are generated at the same time... how can it be otherwise?
[10:10] <dr_willis> right the pub key is used by the server to verify the privite key..
[10:10]  * dr_willis  has been at work for 8 hrs... so im getting muddled
[10:10] <nsadmin> then you append the pub key (which is in asc form) to the remote's authorized_keys
[10:11] <dr_willis> the 'remote' is the server you are connecting To,'
[10:11] <nsadmin> that should do it as far as ssh
[10:11] <nsadmin> yes
[10:11] <nsadmin> or the whatever you're connecting to
[10:11] <dr_willis> which is in the users .ssh  dir normally
[10:11] <nsadmin> also yes
[10:11] <dr_willis> so.. now i forget the original question... ;)
[10:12] <dr_willis> and its time for me to leave work. so i will be back =in an hr or 2
[10:14] <d8bhatta> dr_willis:  :) original question is:  i am provided .pub key so I am login into  the remote server with the command ssh -i file.pub<EMAIL_ADDRESS>....each time I have to do this, I want to set the provided pub key into my local in the way that from the next time I don't have to reference the pub to login into the server. I hope this helps.
[10:15] <jagginess> hi
[10:16] <jagginess> using textual install (alternate)-- dam thing froze when trying to rerun the partitioner (already was on the grub-install step-- and wanted to add a partition) :/
[10:16] <jagginess> :(
[10:16] <bris_> hi
[10:19] <oCean> d8bhatta: a pub key is used to verify your private key. This pub key needs to reside on the machine you are connecting to. So there is actually nothing you can do with a received pub key, other than give access to your machine to the person owning the private key to that pub key
[10:20] <oCean> still with me? :-)
[10:20] <d8bhatta> oCean: yes I am with yo
[10:20] <DarkStar1> what's the name of the default window manager on 12.04 I need to gksu a terminal
[10:21] <DarkStar1> not a terminal a admin window to copy around some files
[10:21] <theadmin> DarkStar1: "window manager" would be Compiz.
[10:21] <theadmin> DarkStar1: File manager though? Still Nautilus.
[10:22] <d8bhatta> oCean: we can also login into that server using the provided .pub key with the command I types above i.e. ssh -i theFile.pub user@server
[10:22] <d8bhatta> login into that server from local machine
[10:23] <yharrow> my intel card is unbrearably slow iand i cant figure out why
[10:23] <yharrow> can someone help
[10:23] <theadmin> yharrow: Because it's an Intel card?
[10:23] <theadmin> yharrow: They're not too great on 3D or acceleration or anything :/
[10:23] <yharrow> theadmin it was much faste rin the livecd
[10:23] <wasanzy> hi
[10:24] <DarkStar1> theadmin: Ok. thx
[10:24] <yharrow> it was much faster in the livecd
[10:24] <yharrow> and now i messed with drivers
[10:24] <yharrow> it sucks
[10:24] <theadmin> yharrow: Hm well, "unmess" with them then.
[10:24] <oCean> d8bhatta: to me, that makes no sense. That would mean you can log in in ANY server you want, since the pub key has nothing to do with the other server
[10:24] <yharrow> i have no idea how
[10:24] <theadmin> yharrow: You can disable the propretiary drivers in the same app you enable them in, jockey-gtk
[10:24] <yharrow> thre are none
[10:24] <vampirnata> why are you messing with the drivers if you clearly don't understand
[10:24] <yharrow> vampirnata: i have 2 cards
[10:25] <yharrow> vampirnata: i was trying to get the nvidia to work inow i just give up on it
[10:25] <theadmin> yharrow: Well, just do the reverse of whatever you did.
[10:25] <yharrow> vampirnata: i want at least my intel back
[10:25] <yharrow> theadmin: i uninstalled them all
[10:25] <vampirnata> what i don't understand is why you didn't boot the live cd and install the system from the livecd.
[10:25] <yharrow> i did
[10:25] <yharrow> but then i installed driveers
[10:25] <vampirnata> why
[10:25] <theadmin> !info xorg-video-intel | yharrow
[10:25] <d8bhatta> oCean:  if that would not make any sense to you, I have questionb, why the ssh doesn't work without mentioning pub key in the command?
[10:25] <yharrow> for my second card
[10:25] <theadmin> ...huh?
[10:26] <vampirnata> but you said it was fine in the livecd
[10:26] <yharrow> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:26] <theadmin> yharrow: Well this. Install that.
[10:26] <yharrow> theadmin:  i did
[10:26] <theadmin> yharrow: With "lsmod | grep intel", do you get any output?
[10:26] <yharrow> yes
[10:27] <Gyges> yharrow, i have two cards ,too
[10:27] <theadmin> Hm okay, so the driver works fine allright
[10:27] <yharrow> yes
[10:27] <yharrow> but its slow as slog
[10:27]  * Gyges (composite?)
[10:27] <theadmin> yharrow: If it was fast before and this is a relatively new install, it'd be simplier to just reinstall, no?
[10:27] <vampirnata> i agree
[10:27] <wasanzy> I am trying to enable dual monitor in my ubuntu 12.04 but when I run sudo amdcccle and chose Multi-display desktop in the Multi-Display tab, and click apply, I get this error and the luncher disappears
[10:27] <wasanzy> Error: http://pastebin.com/3DHfF686
[10:27] <yharrow> *sigh oh well guess I will do tht then
[10:27] <Wavelight_> sorry for asking it again, but someone please tell me if I can make a live cd from an already installed Ubuntu Server ?
[10:27] <oCean> d8bhatta: the "pub" key you received is probably a private key.
[10:27] <Wavelight_> thnak you
[10:28] <vampirnata> you could have done this already :)
[10:28] <Wavelight_> thank you, sorry
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> yharrow  nvidia doesnt like linux and linus torvalds hates them for it
[10:28] <yharrow> i dont want to lose all my ppas
[10:28] <yharrow> and pacakges
[10:28] <wasanzy> please help me out
[10:28] <vampirnata> sometimes a reinstall is just the quickest route
[10:28] <oCean> d8bhatta: from the man ssh page "-i    Selects a file from which the identity (private key)"
[10:28] <jagginess> ns hes still here lol
[10:28] <vampirnata> yharrow: you've been shown how to backup your packages
[10:28] <yharrow> i spent alot of time instelling stuff
[10:28] <yharrow> and finding ppas
[10:28] <yharrow> vampirnata: but that covers ppas too?
[10:28] <yharrow> i mean the source
[10:29] <vampirnata> you can back up your home
[10:29] <vampirnata> and the installed packages
[10:29] <yharrow> vampir home its own partition but finding sources takes time
[10:29] <vampirnata> if you've downloaded source you can back those up too
[10:29] <paul_uk> hey all, can anyone recommend a remmina rdp replacement?  It works once and then subsequent logins it just shows a blank screen.  Also KRDC just sucks.
[10:29] <theadmin> yharrow: Backup /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*, /etc/apt/sources.list and the dpkg database (see !clone), then restore them in that order.
[10:29] <yharrow> vamp all those ppa s that i added
[10:29] <theadmin> paul_uk: Vinagre?
[10:29] <yharrow> theadmin: thats just sources i dont thikn ppa is listed there
[10:29] <jagginess> paul_uk: freerdp
[10:30] <theadmin> yharrow: Uh, no, PPAs are an APT source.
[10:30] <jagginess> paul_uk: but i dont know if theres a gui front end
[10:30] <d8bhatta> oCean: you caught me...ye its private file..appreciated!
[10:30] <jagginess> (or xfreerdp)
[10:30]  * jagginess screwed
[10:30]  * jagginess afk fixing smthing
[10:31] <paul_uk> jagginess, its really for connecting to win7 machines rather than hosting the protocol.  it's a shame remmina sucks with 12.04, it was fine with 11.10
[10:31] <oCean> d8bhatta: hehe, ok. I think you can use the ssh config file to specify that you want to use a certain file with a certain host. (then it would not longer be required to specify that key every time)
[10:32] <theadmin> paul_uk: *ahem* Try vinagre. Always worked for me, I think it comes (or used to) preinstalled too
[10:32] <yharrow> should i download the x64 image?
[10:32] <oCean> d8bhatta: nvm, I'm off to lunch
[10:32] <d8bhatta> oCean: great!...thanks..I will try to get the stuff by myself..
[10:32] <vampirnata> yharrow: http://linuxexchange.org/questions/619/backuprestore-third-party-ppas
[10:33] <jagginess> paul_uk: apt-cache search freerdp (dpkg -L <packagename>|grep bin)
[10:33] <vampirnata> it's a simple google search away :/
[10:33] <paul_uk> jagginess, thanks i just did that already... :)
[10:33] <yharrow> well i triec to fix the intel driver but if nobody has the answer in 24 horus i doubt they ever will
[10:34] <jagginess> paul_uk: i use https:// to access my remote linux :p
[10:34] <vampirnata> yharrow: you still don't understand. if you want a quick fix and not willing to learn and READ then a) you are using the wrong OS and b) are in the wrong channel
[10:34] <paul_uk> jagginess, ok.  but i want to access my remote windows lol
[10:34] <yharrow> vampirnata:  i dont mind learning
[10:35] <yharrow> if i have to learn hwo to program from source code so be it
[10:35] <yharrow> i just need a direction
[10:35] <yharrow> and right now i have no idea what to do
[10:35] <yharrow> to fix it
[10:35] <jagginess> paul_uk: nomachine is rolling a final release sometime for more than linux :)-- so eventually you'll be able to https:// to windows and mac home machines.. (and without needing to go through a commercial proxy at all)
[10:35] <yharrow> other than reinstall
[10:36] <vampirnata> the thing is, your problem is obviously not an easy one and a reinstall is the best course of action for you. maybe when you learn more you will be able to solve these types of problems, or at least have an idea where to start
[10:36] <jagginess> paul_uk: (which btw i get remote audio with linux already -- but with the binary edition :)
[10:36] <yharrow> vampirnata: i will literally do *anything* to fix it if someone will tell me what to do
[10:36] <paul_uk> jagginess, this is all local so i don't need the overhead of https
[10:36] <theadmin> vampirnata: That was rather rude. Ubuntu is a newbie-friendly OS, to the extent I wouldn't be surprised if man-pages won't come installed by default with the next release ;) Therefore, don't just send people off when they don't know how to ask or such.
[10:37] <vampirnata> theadmin: i am not rude at all... you haven't been in here since this morning
[10:37] <jagginess> paul_uk: no plugins.. it works right out of the box basically (and its very fast in webbrowsing experience)
[10:37] <yharrow> theadmin its  a common misconception that ubuntu is noobie friendly
[10:37] <yharrow> its friendly if it works for u
[10:37] <yharrow> if it doesnt
[10:37] <paul_uk> jagginess, yeah i used nomachine about 5 years ago
[10:37] <theadmin> yharrow: Well, I guess so.
[10:37] <yharrow> and u dont have money for tech support
[10:37] <vampirnata> many experienced people have tried to help. but unfortunetly yharrow doesn't have basic knowledge to even start fixing this problem
[10:37] <paul_uk> i have been using linux since fedora 6 lol
[10:38] <theadmin> vampirnata: Err, I didn't quite understand that last sentence. I'm visiting this channel quite often since 2010 if that's what you mean :/
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> yharrow  nvidia is the problem, not ubuntu, blame nvidia, not ubuntu
[10:38] <jagginess> paul_uk: you should do remote linux.. why do windows?
[10:38] <yharrow> theadmin see what vampirnata said
[10:38] <vampirnata> theadmin: i meant you were not online this morning when others were trying to help
[10:38] <yharrow> i am a complete noob
[10:38] <paul_uk> jagginess: there are tons of reasons why.  i cba to go into them
[10:38] <theadmin> vampirnata: Ah... ok.
[10:38] <yharrow> everyone was trying to help me
[10:38] <vampirnata> i'm not at all being rude to yharrow
[10:38] <jagginess> paul_uk: also the nomachine binary client.. can do vnc/rdp/nx .. however i'm not sure if the rdp it does requires nx as a proxy..
[10:38] <yharrow> theadmin:  but with as little knowledge as i have
[10:38] <yharrow> its hard to help me
[10:39] <vampirnata> hence why the best route is a reinstall
[10:39] <theadmin> yharrow: Well, if you admit that you have too little knowledge to actually fix whatever the problem may be, just reinstall, I agree
[10:39] <yharrow> vampirnata: i would but i specifically want to learn
[10:39] <yharrow> theadmin: i dont care how long it takes
[10:39] <theadmin> yharrow: Learning on a broken system is a bad idea :P
[10:40] <vampirnata> ^ this
[10:40] <theadmin> It's like a doctor trying to heal a corpse
[10:40] <yharrow> fixing a problem isnt a good way to learn?
[10:40] <yharrow> theadmin doctors learn on corpses all the time
[10:40] <yharrow> its part of medical school
[10:40] <theadmin> yharrow: Err, okay, well you get my point I hope.
[10:40] <yharrow> i do
[10:40]  * theadmin ain't into no medicine
[10:40] <yharrow> u cant learn on dead ppl before u know what a live one looks like
[10:41] <Harshad> Can I get back my grub2 which I lost after installing windows 7 without Ubuntu live CD? like with EasyBCD?
[10:41] <nicola> Hi!
[10:41] <yharrow> i cant learn froma broken machine unless i know what its SUPPOSED to look like right?
[10:41] <theadmin> !recovergrub | Harshad
[10:41] <theadmin> !restoregrub | Harshad
[10:42] <jagginess> paul_uk: you think you can do a triple boot -- each OS in software raid1 :ppp
[10:42] <Harshad> theadmin: it shows ways to get back grub2 using a ubuntu cd
[10:42] <Harshad> theadmin: but I don't
[10:42] <theadmin> Harshad: Ah, you said *without*, pardon me.
[10:42] <theadmin> Harshad: Bwah. Can you boot any OS?
[10:42] <paul_uk> jagginess. omg lol ever heard of virtualisation? I have ubutun 64 as the host and I have a linux vm, OSX vm and Windows 7 vm.  Why would I need to triple boot?
[10:42]  * jagginess is finishing up his third raid1 OS-- win/osx/linux(ubuntu baby)
[10:42] <Harshad> theadmin: yeah win7
[10:43] <theadmin> Harshad: Well, I suggest the following scenario... Install Virtualbox, feed the physical drive to it, boot an Ubuntu ISO there and proceed as described in the article.
[10:43] <jagginess> paul_uk: apparently i've learned that linux software raid can be used on the same disks as osx.. apparently.. i have my reasons :p
[10:43] <theadmin> Harshad: Though that may be risky, I'm not sure how Windows will like the boot sector changing all of a sudden...
[10:43] <paul_uk> jagginess, awesome
[10:44] <Harshad> theadmin: I don't have ubuntu iso either, can't I use easeyBCD?
[10:44] <theadmin> Harshad: I think you may be able to, but I've never touched it
[10:44] <Harshad> theadmin: ok ill try it
[10:44] <jagginess> paul_uk: which btw i have osx as software raid1 as well.. (and on amd if you know what i mean)
[10:44] <theadmin> Harshad: There's also grub4dos and such
[10:45] <Harshad> theadmin: ok
[10:45] <theadmin> Harshad: You can also boot your ubuntu with plop and then restore GRUB from there.
[10:45] <Harshad> plop?
[10:45] <paul_uk> I had one earlier thanks!
[10:45] <jagginess> paul_uk: you hosting these' vm's on cluster servers.. raid sets?
[10:45] <theadmin> Harshad: Plop is a miniature bootloader that can be installed from Windows with a simple .bat script
[10:45] <Harshad> theadmin: okay, ty
[10:45] <paul_uk> jagginess, yeah I have a 100TB beowolf cluster in my bedroom
[10:46] <jagginess> paul_uk: not bad.. you should go more into the cloud service stuff.. that seems to be the new wave of things
[10:46] <Harshad> theadmin: which one? http://www.plop.at/en/windowstools.html
[10:46] <paul_uk> jagginess, thanks for the freerdp recommendation!
[10:46] <theadmin> Harshad: http://download.plop.at/files/bootmngr/plpbt-5.0.14.zip
[10:47] <jagginess> paul_uk: the ubuntu server edition is supposed to be good at handling the vm/cloud space things.. i yet to check that out..
[10:47] <Harshad> theadmin: ty
[10:47] <theadmin> Harshad: Unpack, find either Install_to_boot_menu.bat (installs to Windows boot menu) or Install_to_MBR.bat (installs to boot sector), run that as admin
[10:47] <kingsikes> can someone help me with a graphics adaptor issue?
[10:47] <yharrow> thanks for everybody's help
[10:47] <Harshad> theadmin: ok
[10:47] <theadmin> kingsikes: That's very vague. Details.
[10:48] <theadmin> Harshad: And by "run as admin" I mean right-click and choose "Run as administrator", not just with an administrative account.
[10:48] <Harshad> theadmin: ok
[10:48] <kingsikes> i have 2 graphics adaptors - Intel and Nvidia.  Ubuntu seems to currently be using Intel and I need it to use Nvidia instead
[10:49]  * jagginess think yharrow has been irc'ing his first time for twelve hours today..yesterday
[10:49] <jagginess> :[
[10:49] <jagginess> :)
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> there should be a factoid about nvidia not well supporting linux
[10:50] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[10:51] <kingsikes> how can i make ubuntu use my nvidia adaaptor instead of the Intel one?
[10:51]  * theadmin drinks DoctorPepper
[10:51] <theadmin> Sorry, couldn't hold back. *ahem*.
[10:51] <DoctorPepper> is anyone in here using ubuntu on a MacBook pro 8,x  with intel graphics?
[10:52] <jagginess> kingsikes: stop lightdm, X -configure, cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. edit xorg.conf, possibly you can replace the intel keyword with nvidia-- dont forget to have nvidia driver installed (and use sudo as necessary)
[10:52] <jagginess> kingsikes: (and of course once edited, you can start lightdm)
[10:53] <jagginess> kingsikes: it's hype and geekness, but thats what i check/do/tinker to fix X11.. definitely not fun..
[10:53] <Harshad> theadmin: it installed
[10:54] <Harshad> theadmin: to windows boot menu
[10:54] <subhojit_> I have accidentally done git revert HEAD and now the latest commit has been reverted. How to fix this? My repo has gone back to an earlier commit and some of the files are missing. How do I fix this?
[10:54] <theadmin> Harshad: k, well now reboot and choose the plop from the windows boot menu, then choose the partition your Linux is at, it will boot it.
[10:54] <Harshad> theadmin: ok
[10:59] <wjorgew> ya está
[10:59] <wjorgew> que tal
[10:59] <Idestem_> Hi!
[10:59] <wjorgew> 3iug
[11:00] <wjorgew> bbxbxbxbxbx

[11:00] <wjorgew> ddc
[11:01]  * qwebirc29782 tickles someone speaking to the air
[11:02] <Liszt> NICK <Liszt>
[11:03] <rob_> hi, could someone quickly explain to me the difference between the ruby1.9.3 package and the ruby1.9.1 package? /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 --version seems to return version: ruby 1.9.3
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> rob_  better ask in #ruby
[11:05] <rob_> MonkeyDust: ok thanks
[11:06] <railsraider> hi, when i do a sed "s/OLD/NEW/" file.txt it doesn't save the cahange
[11:06] <railsraider> do i need to do > newfile.txt
[11:07] <nsadmin> that's one way
[11:07] <rob_> railsraider: use -i for inline
[11:07] <maciejjo> ls
[11:07] <nsadmin> ellis
[11:07] <railsraider> rob_:  so -i before the file.txt right?
[11:07] <rob_> yeah
[11:07] <railsraider> thanks\
[11:07] <rob_> no worries
[11:12] <chiba_> hi
[11:13] <Silster> hi there
[11:13] <Silster> New to Ubuntu and Iḿ trying out irc chat now
[11:13] <Silster> seems to work!
[11:13] <lamaz> seems so
[11:13] <Silster> need to change my keyboard settings though
[11:13] <Silster> brb
[11:16] <Silster> let's see
[11:16] <Idestem_> Hi!
[11:16] <Silster> yep that did the trick
[11:21] <d8bhatta> hello, I am ssmtp in my local to send email and with google account  setting, it sends email. But when I try to use mail server provided by client , i get message like sendmail: 554 Message rejected: Email address is not verified.
[11:21] <d8bhatta> and my mail server is placed into amazon server
[11:22] <UndiFineD> d8bhatta, https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=88148
[11:24] <vavoysh> So, I was upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04, when suddenly the upgrade decided to log me out and then reboot. When I get back to the login screen, my computer will not recognize my keyboard or my mouse. Does anyone either know a) how to get it so that I can log on and complete the upgrade, b) upgrade from a CD [using live CD, the website does not help], or c) just recover the system so that I can actually use my computer?
[11:26] <d8bhatta> UndiFineD: thanks for the link, I can send email from amazon server but cannot send using the server info in local
[11:27] <UndiFineD> Paolo's reply is interesting, follow his link, maybe you need to register your clients email address
[11:28] <Arketype> Bonjour
[11:29] <UndiFineD> d8bhatta, I have not worked with amazon services, google is my friend
[11:30] <vavoysh> Anyone?
[11:35] <nlici> using ubuntu 12.04 printer receives the data but does not print , i am sure printer drivers are ok . please help if not i need to pass to windows .thanks
[11:37] <nlici> using ubuntu 12.04 printer receives the data but does not print , i am sure printer drivers are ok . please help if not i need to pass to windows .thanks
[11:39] <nlici> any printer does not work when i make usb connection
[11:40] <fl0w> I might be in the wrong channel but I'm trying to get my MySQL installation to be able to output/write files into my /tmp/ directory, and as I understand it apparmor is blocking this functionality. How can I temporarily unblock this enforcement?
[11:41] <UndiFineD> nlici, please provide more info and leave windows out of your question
[11:41] <fl0w> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.
[11:42] <UndiFineD> fl0w, write an apparmor rule
[11:42] <nlici> @undifineD  i am using ubuntu 12.04 and all the drivers i connect through usb does not work it says receiving data but does not printing . I have brother dcp-165 c.when i connect printer through the wirelless network the printer works .
[11:43] <UndiFineD> fl0w,  I think this is like your isssue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203454
[11:43] <fl0w> UndiFineD: Thanks.
[11:44] <UndiFineD> nlici, my HP printer was easily found by avahi-daemon
[11:45] <UndiFineD> nlici, I have no experience with brother, but I think it is alike
[11:46] <nlici> i guess the problem is not related with brother because any printer that i connect by the usb does not work
[11:46] <nlici> that means there is a problem in the program it self
[11:47] <nsadmin> look at dmesg and/or other logs
[11:52] <vavoysh> So, I was upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04, when suddenly the upgrade decided to log me out and then reboot. When I get back to the login screen, my computer will not recognize my keyboard or my mouse.  How?  is there a libappindicator utility that can do this for me?
[11:56] <nsadmin> rockfruit, can you just add something like xconsole, and write to that console?
[11:58] <rockfruit> nsadmin, seems like that means having another window floating around.. whereas I have all this free space up there...
[11:59] <rockfruit> (unity btw)
[11:59] <tsuser> can any one send installation of windows7 over pxe
[11:59] <tsuser> in ubuntu
[12:00] <nsadmin> just an idea... thought it might be easier since you're dealing with something that already has a defined purpose and an implementation for that purpose
[12:00] <rockfruit> i see..ok well thanks... I'm going through the python libappindicator docs
[12:01] <Nytelife> setting dual monitors with xbmc to work in 12 is painful
[12:01] <Nytelife> *getting
[12:01]  * rockfruit hugs unity
[12:02] <fidel> hi - i am wondering what apps you guys might recommend on ubuntu for time-tracking. I.e. i would like to track single tasks in my daily workflow in categories like: doing mail, doing research etc
[12:03] <fidel> i stumpled upon hamster right now - which seems ...ok ... but its the only app i tested so far
[12:03] <fidel> it would be great if the app would let me generate reports
[12:03] <nsadmin> some kind of project manager app
[12:04] <UndiFineD> tsuser, yes tftp should be able to
[12:05] <UndiFineD> fidel, zeitgeist does most of that
[12:06] <UndiFineD> it does not tell you what to do, but you can look at what you have done before
[12:13] <fidel> UndiFineD: yep it does - but then again it does it NOT in categories
[12:13] <fidel> it does it on file-system layer iirc
[12:13] <fidel> so - its not really usefull for time-tracking - but for file-usage history or am i wrong?
[12:16] <linux> hah
[12:16] <linux> haha
[12:18] <aspiremint> hello, is there somebody? need help with compiz (zorin kde)
[12:18] <nsadmin> I am... somebody... I think... therefore I might be...
[12:18] <m477> does 64bit version of ubuntu  will work faster on my core 2duo?
[12:18] <UndiFineD> fidel, well perhaps you could schedule some tasks in evolution calender
[12:19] <marco> aspiremint: tell you problem instead of asking for help
[12:19] <UndiFineD> fidel, or how about a crontab :P
[12:19] <fidel> UndiFineD: not using evolution either ;)
[12:19] <fidel> UndiFineD: using cron for time-tracking sounds ....well like using os2 nowadays
[12:20] <fidel> os2 was fine - but you wouldnt consider it today in99,99% of all cases ;)
[12:20] <Guest95587> hello
[12:20] <Guest95587> i wanna know if upstart can handle the return code of a service, like catch "-2" and restart the service
[12:20] <Guest95587> i already asked the question to #upstart channel but no answer yet
[12:20] <UndiFineD> os2 is still being used today :P
[12:20] <fidel> UndiFineD: yep - but not in most cases ...see 99,99% ;)
[12:20] <bmc_> Hi....  This morning's package upgraded failed due to authentication error with the apt packages themselves.  Version 12.04.  Has this been seen by others?  I'm reluctant to upgrade without authentication.
[12:21] <UndiFineD> IBM loves it for their old tape robotics
[12:21] <aspiremint> zorin os have installed compiz, but didnt work (super+e, etc....), how to start it?
[12:21] <sacarlson> Guest95587: upstart must get some feedback as it seems to keep things running,  I think it just monitors in if the apps not running it restarts it
[12:21] <fidel> UndiFineD: anyway it was just an example - i am looking for time-tracking apps - not manual hacks offering some workaround for not having a real solution ;)
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> aspiremint  zorin is and mint ar not supported here
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[12:23] <aspiremint> MonkeyDust: why? "Zorin OS is an Ubuntu based Linux distribution that combines all the benefits of Ubuntu" and i am at Ubuntu channel :(
[12:25] <nsadmin> aspiremint, conventional wisdom suggests that support channels constructed for that os might have more current info, and that people here might or mignt not want to pursue other OSes for the sole purpose of supporting people
[12:25] <sacarlson> Guest95587: seems to have some good docs to read http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[12:26] <UndiFineD> fidel, http://askubuntu.com/questions/4113/which-time-tracker-application-do-you-recommend
[12:26] <linux> so many supermen in ubantu,I am a rush one
[12:26] <nsadmin> aspiremint, I'm just saying, you might find answers if you look there
[12:26] <fidel> UndiFineD: thanks ...lets see if theres something new.
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> !mint| aspiremint try here
[12:26] <vavoysh> So, I was upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04, when suddenly the upgrade decided to log me out and then reboot. When I get back to the login screen, my computer will not recognize my keyboard or my mouse. Does anyone either know a) how to get it so that I can log on and complete the upgrade, b) upgrade from a CD [using live CD, the website does not help], or c) just recover the system so that I can actually use my computer?
[12:28] <sacarlson> vavoysh: I can't wait till they get the restore back to the way it was before I upgraded botton.  until they get that working I will continue to install on spare partitions
[12:29] <nsadmin> vavoysh, (hmm. deja vu... have I heard that whole comment before?) you might want to upgrade while X is not active at all
[12:29] <GOMI> can't get video only sound wiht .wmv format ? what codec do i need for it to work.
[12:29] <AdvoWork> if doing telnet whatever 25 which fails, connection timed out, can i get the detailed information why from somewhere?
[12:29] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, my installation of Ubuntu randomly hiccups when scrolling or doing other tasks that take up almost no processing power. Anybody know why it might be doing this? Don't have this problem with any other distro?
[12:29] <vavoysh> nsadmin: while what is not active?
[12:30] <nsadmin> X
[12:30] <sacarlson> vavoysh: otherwise many times in this state best you can do it recover your /home/user data to a usb or other media and reinstall is my best guess
[12:30] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: so you are running several distris on that same hardware? just wondering
[12:30] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: sure you do have some current gfx-drivers?
[12:30] <vavoysh> sacarlson: yeah that's my other option but for understandable reasons I don't really want to do so
[12:30] <vavoysh> nsadmin: what's X?
[12:30] <DeltaHeavy> fidel: I have CentOS on here too. Also where would I check for that? Update don't say anything for that and this machine just has integrated graphics.
[12:31] <fidel> so all other distris is centos ok ;)
[12:31] <nsadmin> vavoysh, everything graphical in a linux almost always uses X, and ubuntu is no exception
[12:31] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: the gfx-driver as possible reason was just a quick idea
[12:32] <DeltaHeavy> fidel: Well CentOS is working fine on here so I'm assuming this is an Ubuntu problem considering it's fairly different compared to most other distros
[12:32] <vavoysh> nsadmin: oh, that X. But do you know a way that I can 'fix' this?
[12:32] <nsadmin> vavoysh, no, sure don't
[12:32] <DeltaHeavy> I'm wondering if Ubuntu just got as bulky as Vista in the past 2 years since I've used it.
[12:33] <nsadmin> you might start with dpkg --configure --pending
[12:33] <sacarlson> vavoysh: you say you have no keyboard or mouse control,  oh can you maybe at boot in grub boot the recover kernel?
[12:33] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, it might be a cgroup thing, for which a latency daemon was developed
[12:33] <vavoysh> sacarlson: the recover kernel has the same issue, no keyboard/mouse control
[12:33] <sacarlson> vavoysh: hold shift at boot and menu pick the recover or whatever they call it now
[12:33] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys is there any tool in ubuntu 12.04 for me to scan who's on my network?
[12:34] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: My network latency is fine. It's more just general usage. Feels all clunky
[12:34] <sacarlson> vavoysh: if recover kernel fails next step is live cd boot and posibly try chroot back to your sytem and continue upgrade,  unlikly to work but
[12:34] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: Or is what you're tlaking about not about network latency?
[12:35] <vavoysh> sacarlson: how exactly would I do that?
[12:35] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, no :)
[12:35] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: What exactly am I looking for?
[12:35] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, apt-get install ulatency ulatencyd
[12:35] <sacarlson> vavoysh: do you know how to boot a live cd ?  do you have a live cd or usb to boot with?
[12:36] <vavoysh> sacarlson: yeah, I know how do to do that (and I can boot from both, although neither has a recovery option), I'm confused what you mean by the chroot part
[12:36] <vavoysh> sacarlson: do you want me to open a shell in my system and attempt the ugprade from there?
[12:36] <vavoysh> cuz I can attempt that
[12:37] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, I am not 100% sure this will solve it for you, I tried it for a day or 2 but found it rather heavy on the cpu
[12:37] <Helios> ot
[12:38] <sacarlson> vavoysh: I would recover what you can before you continue any operations then attempt to fix, some info for chroot but not how to fix http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[12:38] <vavoysh> sacarlson: alright, thank you, i'll take a look at that
[12:39] <sacarlson> vavoysh: yes from a non graphic mode in chroot you might try to continue upgrade
[12:39] <sacarlson> vavoysh: after you spend more than 3 hours trying, give up and reinstall
[12:39] <vavoysh> sacarlson: alright, thank you
[12:42] <goodflood> hello
[12:42] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: Problems still happening >:
[12:43] <baazigar> hello how can i check if something is being downloaded in the background or how much speed is internet giving in ubuntu... For example in windows, in networking tab of task manager, we can see all internet connections and their respective speeds.
[12:43] <UndiFineD> hmmm
[12:43] <JasonDC> anyone here able to review this bash script and output and give me an idea of what could be wrong? http://fpaste.org/rjGI/
[12:44] <danawar2> System>Administration>System Monitor>Resources>Network History
[12:44] <danawar2> Let me know if that helps baazigar
[12:44] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, did you try powertop to see what is going on
[12:44] <baazigar> danawar2 : checking it out
[12:44] <sacarlson> baazigar: iftop -i eth0  is one of many methods
[12:45] <frank_> -h
[12:45] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: I'll check
[12:45] <goodflood> I have a usb stick that is unreadable/unmountable. Can anyone help?
[12:45] <JasonDC> goodflood, did it just start happening; or is it new?
[12:46] <goodflood> Not new; I was using it.
[12:46] <JasonDC> okay; open the terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:46] <JasonDC> pastebin that output
[12:46] <goodflood> did that.. not detected
[12:46] <fidel> goodflood: tested this stick on > 1 computer/device?
[12:46] <danawar2> System>Administration>Disk Utility Does it appear  under Storage Devices?
[12:47] <danawar2> Let me know if it does goodfllod
[12:47] <JasonDC> could it be physical damage to the stick making the contacts not connecting properly
[12:47] <danawar2> goodflood *
[12:47] <goodflood> I am on lubuntu live cd at the moment... but, gparted does not show it
[12:47] <goodflood> dd and ddrescue cannot read from it (no media found error)
[12:48] <goodflood> testdisk does not pick up on it
[12:49] <baazigar> danawar2 : i didnt get any administration option in the system settings, i am not sure if i am doing it right
[12:49] <goodflood> I doubt about physical damage... I been in my office since yesterday...
[12:50] <fidel> goodflood: does it work on any other computer?
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> goodflood  start from the beginning, since when are you having these issues and what did you do before it started go wrong
[12:50] <goodflood> I think I pulled it out of a windows 7 comp and then it went dead
[12:50] <fidel> so - is the problem reproduceable with the stick alone - or do you need this one specific host for it?
[12:50] <UndiFineD> goodflood, the stick, is it from silicon power ?
[12:51] <goodflood> stick is imation nano pro
[12:51] <goodflood> my guess is that between me pulling it out during a write and windows reassigning a drive letter, I got screwed
[12:51] <danawar2> goodfloof did you "JasonDC: okay; open the terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:52] <goodflood> yes, fdisk -l gives me nothing
[12:52] <JasonDC> run it as root
[12:52] <danawar2> Does windows still recognise it?
[12:52] <goodflood> yes
[12:52] <baazigar> sacarlson : your command was what i needed !
[12:52] <UndiFineD> I have a few broken sticks too, no way to detect them after connecting
[12:53] <sacarlson> goodflood: time to try plug it into another slot sometime just change conections or unplug replug fixes it for me
[12:53] <sab0> hi i am using ubuntu 10.04 along with windows 7, but as i always update my ubuntu in my grub boot list theres lot of option,can any one please tell me how can i delete some and keep only win7 and one ubuntu 10.04
[12:53] <goodflood> but it comes up and says insert media (like it is a CD ROM drive)
[12:53] <pvh_sa> hey there i'm on 12.04 with a Intel 5 Series/3400 series HDA... sound output works, but i can't seem to get the mic to work. just hear noise. any ideas?
[12:53] <danawar2> Suresab0
[12:53] <sacarlson> baazigar: I like the one that danawar2 gave you better nice real time graphics
[12:53] <danawar2> On moment
[12:53] <NEO1_> Hi everyone! Just have some problems when I try to boot an ubuntu 12.04 live CD on my DELL Inspiron 8200...  I got a black screen with this line: "sector error 0400"... Need Help! (pourquois en français?)
[12:54] <k1l> sab0: delete the old linux-image* packages of old kernels you dont need anymore
[12:54] <danawar2> sab0: www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[12:54] <sacarlson> baazigar: but I guess iftop tells what app is doing it
[12:55] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFinD: Checked. I think Ubuntu is just more bloated then any Linux distro I was expecting. I'm going to install XFCE and if that still doesn't work I'm just going to install a distro that isn't bloated as all hell.
[12:55] <danawar2> NEO1_:  Have you retryed burning the disk?
[12:55] <baazigar> sacarlson : but i didnt get what danawar2 is saying : i didnt get any administrator option
[12:56] <sacarlson> NEO1_: I'm not sure the sector is bad on the cd or the harddrive, I would try boot from a usb,  they seem more stable to me
[12:56] <danawar2> Sorry baazigar it would give you the same output as fdisk
[12:56] <NEO1_> danawar2: Live CD is okay on another computer!
[12:56] <sacarlson> baazigar: I guess your not in admin group?
[12:56] <sab0> can any one please tell me how can i check grub version using terminal?
[12:56] <JasonDC> test
[12:56] <JasonDC> sorry; had to switch keyboards x
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> sab0  12.04 uses grub2
[12:57] <baazigar> dont know, i am the administrator of my pc
[12:57] <crazybrain> how to download kismet for Ubuntu?
[12:57] <sacarlson> baazigar: maybe you run 12.04, sounds like danawar2 was speaking of 10.04 method,  I also run 10.04
[12:57] <sab0> MonkeyDust, i am using 10.04 and always update, want to know by which command i can know the version of my grub?
[12:57] <danawar2> baazigar: what output does sudo fdisk -l report back nothing either?
[12:58] <baazigar> danawar2 : yes i run 12.04
[12:58] <fidel> crazybrain: how about using apt?
[12:58] <danawar2> sacarlson: true sorry
[12:58] <NEO1_> You think its a better idea to burn ubuntu on an usb key?
[12:58] <goodflood> tried to use a different port; no luck
[12:58] <zubin> how to remove the error no init found. try passing init=bootrag?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> sab0  10.04 uses grub2, too
[12:59] <danawar2> NEO1_: Sure do you need a guide for it? :)
[12:59] <sab0> MonkeyDust, thank you, but is there any command to know the grub version?
[12:59] <JasonDC> i currently use grub 2.00 beta 4
[12:59] <baazigar> danawar2 : there are some lines of devices and partitions
[12:59] <satyanash> Hi, I have connected a WD external 500GB HDD to one of my usb ports, and I can't seem to find the port that has USB 2.0 support..I always seem to connect to a Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub instead of a Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[12:59] <satyanash> The speeds are extremely slow.
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> sab0  try apt-cache policy grub
[13:00] <crazybrain> fidel: how to do that?
[13:00] <fidel> crazybrain: kismet is part of your normal OS package repository
[13:00] <zubin> how to remove the error no init found. try passing init=bootrag?
[13:00] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, xfce is great
[13:00] <NEO1_> Are you using irony? I dont speak english...  but I dont need help to set up ubuntu on an  usb! thanks! But I dont understand why I need to do it
[13:00] <fidel> crazybrain: how so you install or update software so far?
[13:00] <fidel> *so/do*
[13:01] <danawar2> baazigar: Paste bin it and stick the link in chat and well see what we can do!
[13:01] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, so is lubuntu lxde
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> sab0  make that apt-cache policy grub2
[13:01] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: I just hope this isn't an Ubuntu problem. It's become far more bloated then I remember it being back a bunc hof years
[13:01] <sab0> MonkeyDust, thank u
[13:01] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: what bloat are you talking about ?
[13:01] <danawar2> fidel: Sudo apt-get install #program#         sudo apt-get update          sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:02] <DeltaHeavy> iknoia: brb booing into XFCE, and I mean the general bloat Ubuntu comes with compared to any other distro
[13:02] <sacarlson> zubin: at grub boot time?  sounds like you MBR needs to be reinstalled
[13:02] <zubin> ya
[13:02] <fidel> danawar2: i wasnt asking for help :;)
[13:02] <zubin> how to reinstall it?
[13:02] <fidel> danawar2: i was trying to point him into how to hnadle that topic ;)
[13:03] <crazybrain> fidel: answer me here
[13:03] <fidel> crazybrain: you didnt answer to my question in the first place
[13:03] <sacarlson> zubin you can try my one liner: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda # change sda1 and sda to your choice
[13:03] <zubin> sacarlon: what is MBR?
[13:03] <danawar2> fidel: sorry hard to track lots of conovs :D
[13:03] <baazigar> danawar2 : i am not sure how would this help, my question was about checking internet speed http://pastebin.com/NTu7W3q8
[13:03] <JasonDC> MBR = Master Boot Record
[13:04] <sacarlson> zubin ya as JasonDC: says MBR = Master Boot Record
[13:04] <danawar2> baazigar: Sorry thought you were guy looking for his USB stick lol
[13:05] <baazigar> danawar2 : yeah i thought so
[13:05] <danawar2> baazigar: you dont want to use a tool like http://www.speedtest.net/ ?
[13:06] <baazigar> danawar2 : i want real time speed
[13:06] <zubin> sacarlson: i tried your commands but an error stoped the function.
[13:07] <DeltaHeavy> Back
[13:07] <sacarlson> baazigar: there two different types of speed,  one is lag to test try skype where you need more realtime responce,  then there is bandwidth try download a torrent
[13:07] <danawar2> baazigar: From your local machine if you see traffic your going to get a false indication unless your transferring alot of data
[13:08] <danawar2> baazigar: Such traffic would be like information going through your internal network not externaly eg your interner