[03:13] <CyberCod> ok,  You'll need to get ntfs-3g installed in order to write to it
[03:14] <Kuriyaki> How may I install that?
[03:14] <train> anyone know of a good complete guide to installing all the video drivers
[03:14] <HelpWantedMP3> Hey everyone NEED help here and its driving me crazy wats the easyest way for me to get mp3 playback
[03:14] <ademan> FireCat: "Screen    "Default Screen" 0 0
[03:14] <ryanakca> is 4.3GB enough for a server install? I have a 800MB swap on a seperate hard drive, and a 4.3GB HD for the install... following http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[03:14] <dredhammer> easyubuntu
[03:14] <Render> so, any ideas on a frozen splash screen?
[03:14] <CyberCod> !ntfs-3g | kuriyaki
[03:14] <ubotu> kuriyaki: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:14] <ryanakca> !restricted | HelpWantedMP3
[03:14] <ubotu> HelpWantedMP3: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:15] <FireCat> ademan: go to Section Screen that has the ideentifier "Default Layout"
[03:15] <Kuriyaki> Do I need to install Fuse?
[03:15] <dredhammer> yes
[03:15] <ademan> FireCat: I'm there
[03:15] <LjL> ryanakca, "enough"... it surely won't fill up during install
[03:15] <FireCat> ademan: go to Section Screen that has the ideentifier "Default Screen" dsorry
[03:15] <DrBanzai> Is there a libSDL-2.0 for Ubuntu?
[03:15] <momo> does xmms come with equalizer presets or do i have to set them?
[03:15] <HelpWantedMP3> i get that on the internet is there a way i can listen to them? I ryanakca
[03:15] <LjL> ryanakca: on my desktop system, i've got like 5gb filled in /, with only /home being on another partition
[03:15] <momo> or download them
[03:15] <dredhammer> is it possible to have another harddrive only for storage when installing ubuntu? i mean you seperate both home and root on one harddrive and then use another one for only storage
[03:15] <cchanc1> ljl, they dont work... :'( i dont know what im dong wrong. I really need some one to walk me through.
[03:15] <ademan> FireCat: knew what you meant :-)
[03:15] <dredhammer> is it possible to have another harddrive only for storage when installing ubuntu?
[03:15] <FireCat> Look at the device there, see if it matches the device that uses the fglrx driver
[03:16] <LjL> cchanc1, is the other computer a linux or windows computer?
[03:16] <ryanakca> LjL: no... just wondering... I'm only going to use it for my blog
[03:16] <ademan> FireCat: first glance it does, gimme a second
[03:16] <cchanc1> ljl, windows
[03:16] <dredhammer> is it possible to have another harddrive only for storage when installing ubuntu? how would you set that up?
[03:16] <FireCat> Look carefully, my didn't do it by default
[03:16] <ademan> FireCat: yeah they're identical
[03:16] <momo> dredhammer: i am wanting to do that too..!
[03:16] <LjL> cchanc1: type "ipconfig" on the windows machine, and make sure it shows <IP_ADDRESS> as its address, and <IP_ADDRESS> as the gateway. if you do "ping <IP_ADDRESS>", does it succeed?
[03:17] <_Andrew> dredhammer, You'd probably do it after an install and partition it like in windows
[03:17] <cchanc1> ljl, ive been through that and yes a ping to <IP_ADDRESS> does succedd.     WAIT
[03:17] <cchanc1> i think i know the problem
[03:17] <LjL> cchanc1: what about a "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[03:17] <cchanc1> how do i find my DNS address
[03:17] <LjL> cchanc1: (that's google)
[03:17] <LjL> cchanc1: as expected.
[03:17] <FireCat> ademan: Do you have a BusID in the device for fglrx?
[03:17] <LjL> cchanc1: your ISP gives you one, check /etc/resolv.conf in your Ubuntu machine
[03:17] <dredhammer> so it is possible to latter have another harddrive only for storage then formatted useing gparted?
[03:17] <cchanc1> thanks
[03:18] <ademan> FireCat: yeah, 1:0:0
[03:18] <ademan> er rather PCI:1:0:0
[03:18] <dredhammer> no need to define home and root etc?
[03:18] <FireCat> Try commenting it out ans restart X
[03:18] <_Andrew> Sure why not
[03:18] <LjL> cchanc1: anyway try "http://<IP_ADDRESS>" in a browser on the window machine, if that works, it's really just a missing DNS
[03:18] <ademan> FireCat: restart comp for good measure? or will restarting X be sufficient?
[03:18] <stratusfear> hey wuttup buddy?
[03:18] <FireCat> ademan: Just restart X
[03:19] <FireCat> Ctl-Alt-Backtab from gdm should do it
[03:20] <ademan> FireCat: fglrxinfo still says mesa
[03:20] <ademan> FireCat: if it matters my client glx vendor string is "ATI"  (in glxinfo)
[03:20] <dimeo> when torvalds kicks it.. who's gonna direct the development of the kernel?
[03:21] <hani> hi
[03:21] <dimeo> !kernel
[03:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:21] <LjL> !offtopic | dimeo
[03:21] <ubotu> dimeo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:21] <stratusfear> hey
[03:21] <DrBanzai> Is there a libSDL-2.0 for Ubuntu?
[03:21] <FireCat> ademan:  glxinfo | grep -i "direct"
[03:21] <mon^rch> can someone help me edit my fstab to add/change the label of a drive...
[03:22] <LjL> DrBanzai: not in the repositories
[03:22] <LjL> mon^rch: the "label"?
[03:22] <DrBanzai> LjL, Thanks
[03:22] <ademan> FireCat: "direct rendering: No"
[03:22] <mon^rch> yeah... right now it shows up as sda1
[03:22] <zengolfer> howdy all
[03:22] <mon^rch> on my desktop I mean
[03:22] <FireCat> ademan: go to /var/log
[03:22] <ademan> k
[03:23] <zengolfer> why doesn't ubuntu provide an smp kernel for x86?
[03:23] <ademan> i'm there
[03:23] <FireCat> look in Xorg.0.log for glx
[03:23] <LjL> mon^rch, well, you can change the mountpoint - that's the second column in fstab, i.e. /media/whatever. and you need to create the corresponding directory in /media. but the drive will still be sda1 really.
[03:23] <cchanc1> ljl, my hunch was false
[03:23] <_Andrew> Anyone know where to go to recommend games to be place in the Add/Remove program?
[03:23] <LjL> mon^rch: actually, sda1 is a partition, but anyway. not sure what the icon will show
[03:24] <cchanc1> ljl, although that was what it needed in a way. It doesnt just stal out any more
[03:24] <mon^rch> is there a way I can rename the icon on the desktop?
[03:24] <LjL> cchanc1: so which parts work?
[03:24] <LjL> mon^rch: dunno, i'm on KDE
[03:24] <Kuriyaki> I downloaded Fuse
[03:24] <mon^rch> ok
[03:24] <Kuriyaki> how do I install it?
[03:24] <FireCat> ademan:look in Xorg.0.log for glx
[03:25] <cchanc1> ljl, just computer to compter, no outside connection except on this one.
[03:25] <LjL> !fuse
[03:25] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:25] <Kuriyaki> Hmm then what is the safest way for me to transfer my files?
[03:25] <LjL> cchanc1: ok, on Ubuntu did you type exactly the commands that i pastebinned, or something slightly different?
[03:25] <momo> how would i go about installing a tar.gz file?
[03:25] <cchanc1> ljl, firestarter is on, this may be the cause hold on for 2 minutes
[03:26] <dasien> does anyone have experience in wireless networking and WEP on ubuntu?
[03:26] <momo> i just did.!!! i got it workign.. I am so proud of myself
[03:26] <LjL> cchanc1: maybe. perhaps close it and do a "sudo iptables --flush" to remove any spurious rules it might have created
[03:26] <LjL> cchanc1: oh by the way - i neglected to say that, but all the commands i pasted need to be run as *root*
[03:26] <ademan> FireCat: http://rafb.net/p/6LsNbx95.html
[03:27] <kitche> !compile|momo
[03:27] <ubotu> momo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:27] <_Andrew> installing or extracting? tar.gz is like a zip file
[03:27] <momo> dasien:what if your problem?
[03:27] <ademan> FireCat: sorry, the first portion is grep "EE" Xorg.0.log
[03:27] <Kuriyaki> What is the safest way for me to transfer files from my NTFS?
[03:28] <LjL> Kuriyaki: *from*? just transfer them, reading from NTFS is safe.
[03:28] <dasien> momo: i have wireless card which i can see in iwconfig, and an access point iwconfig also sees, but i am getting rx crypt packets
[03:28] <zengolfer> Kuriyaki: mount it ro, then copy
[03:28] <FireCat> ademan: Have you tried to uninstall the restricted modules, reboot and reinstall them?
[03:28] <dasien> i have added the wep key to my iwconfig, but it will not connect!
[03:28] <LjL> Kuriyaki: no need to use FUSE or anything to *read* from NTFS
[03:28] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Kuriyaki about ntfs | Kuriyaki, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:28] <ademan> FireCat: nope, but i could try
[03:28] <Kuriyaki> I'm not able to copy and paste my files into an external hard drive
[03:29] <zengolfer> Kuriyaki: use an xterm and cp the files
[03:29] <LjL> Kuriyaki: ok, is the *destination* drive NTFS or ext3?
[03:29] <mon^rch> anyone know how to fix screwed up fonts in games when using XGL ???
[03:29] <FireCat> ademan: change your fglrx to a radeon in the xorg before you do it
[03:29] <Flannel> mon^rch: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support, thanks
[03:29] <cchanc1> ljl, im really getting frusterated with this. Its not firestater (which im removing soon) and its not the name server. I dont know what it is
[03:29] <LjL> Flannel: #ubuntu-effects
[03:29] <Kuriyaki> The destination is external
[03:29] <Flannel> LjL: er, what?
[03:29] <LjL> Flannel: try and see
[03:29] <Kuriyaki> I just downloaded some things to the external device to see if it was working and it is
[03:29] <Flannel> LjL: When did that change?
[03:30] <LjL> Kuriyaki: i asked what *filesystem* it is - NTFS, FAT, ext3, or what?
[03:30] <FireCat> ademan: You know how to get a console to fix it if it dies?
[03:30] <LjL> Flannel: earlier today
[03:30] <Kuriyaki> NTFS
[03:30] <ademan> FireCat: did it several times for my NVIDIA card so yes :-)
[03:30] <Kuriyaki> I want from my NTFS -> External Hard Drive
[03:30] <LjL> Kuriyaki: so you don't want to transfer *from* NTFS, but *to* NTFS. yes in that case you need FUSE. and to be clear.
[03:30] <ademan> i'm a little TOO comfortable in vim nowadays
[03:30] <LjL> Flannel: no biggie anyway, you get redirected to -effects if you join -xgl
[03:30] <_Andrew> cchanc1: Don't get too worked up. Took me two months to figure out how to connect to the internet through my mobile
[03:30] <ravalox> I'm trying to remember, how do you execute two commands from the same console line?
[03:31] <Flannel> ravalox: ; or && if you want the second to depend on success of the first
[03:31] <Kuriyaki> I want to transfer my files from NTFS to the External Device
[03:31] <cchanc1> _Andrew, ive done thi before its just that i have to reformat and it wiped it all and i dont remember i guess im tired, didint go to bed untill 4 last night
[03:31] <LjL> Kuriyaki: the external device being....  NTFS? or not?
[03:31] <ubuntuaion> yo
[03:32] <dasien> anyone have experience with wireless, wep, and ubuntu?
[03:32] <LjL> Kuriyaki: no matter how external a device is, it still has a filesystem.
[03:32] <Kuriyaki> Not
[03:32] <ubuntuaion> i need help with subtitles for rmvb files
[03:32] <OzoneCo> LjL: <-----applauding patience  :)
[03:32] <moonlite> does anyone know where i can find the gpg-key for ubuntu backports?
[03:32] <LjL> OzoneCo: ;)
[03:32] <LjL> Kuriyaki: then if not NTFS, what?
[03:33] <davidohagan> Hi, the alternate CD stalls loading 'trm290' while detecting my CD drives,(yes, I've verified my CD since thats usually the first question asked) what can I do to install ubuntu?
[03:33] <LjL> Ubotu, tell moonlite about source-o-matic | moonlite, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:33] <cchanc1> ljl, got any other tricks up your sleeves?
[03:33] <LjL> moonlite: i think the key's listed there
[03:33] <OzoneCo> ip address, subnet mask, gateway address, dns .,,,,.....all the same on all the boxes with the exception of the ip itself
[03:33] <LjL> cchanc1: you did the iptables --flush and then re-issued those commands again?
[03:33] <Kuriyaki> I right-click properties and Volume says External
[03:33] <dasien> anyone have experience with wireless, wep, and ubuntu?
[03:33] <_Andrew> dasien: I think you'd get help quicker if you just asked your question.
[03:33] <Kuriyaki> Is it that?
[03:33] <OzoneCo> specially on the windoze
[03:34] <OzoneCo> dasien asked
[03:34] <ImsDle> can someone tell me that cool 3d window switch and how to load it?
[03:34] <dasien> _andrew, fair enough:  ok i have a wireless card that i can see my access point with, but the two will not communicat.  i keep getting rx invalid crypt packets
[03:35] <OzoneCo> i have never tried to make my wireless run in ubuntu
[03:35] <dasien> i have added the wep key to my iwconfig
[03:35] <lskd-255> ImsDle, beryl?
[03:35] <Kuriyaki> Cannot write to `diskmounter' (No space left on device). <-- I receive this error when trying to download this
[03:35] <dasien> btw i am not using ndiswrapper
[03:35] <ImsDle> aarrr fanks thats it
[03:35] <lskd-255> you're welcomed to visit #Beryl
[03:35] <cchanc1> ljl, just did them
[03:35] <cchanc1> ljl, test?
[03:35] <ImsDle> how do you install it
[03:36] <LjL> Kuriyaki: ok type "mount" instead, and see what it says - whether "ext3", "vfat" or something else
[03:36] <ubuntuaion> i need help with subtitles for rmvb files
[03:36] <majortom> can someones help me, for some reason my entire home folder is readonly, how do i change it back
[03:36] <LjL> cchanc1: yeah
[03:36] <ipfw> anyone in here have -> ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 graphics ?
[03:36] <trev_> can anyone explain to me how to kill a wine program with the console?
[03:36] <lskd-255> they have all the info there
[03:36] <LjL> trev_: same as with other programs. "ps aux | grep wine", and "kill -s 9 what-you-have-found"
[03:36] <trev_> thx
[03:37] <Kuriyaki> on /media/EXTERNAL type vfat
[03:37] <LjL> majortom: no idea as for the reason, but "sudo chown -R yourself:yourself /home/folder" should fix that i s'pose
[03:37] <OzoneCo> xp box here, power failed, box boots to just before login, any logs i can read to see where it is hanging...i realize this is ubuntu channel...
[03:37] <Kuriyaki> It says type vfat
[03:38] <_Andrew> dasien, sorry nothing in my fluffy brain is comming out. Just keep asking and i'm sure someone will know
[03:38] <kitche> OzoneCo: ask in #windows
[03:38] <OzoneCo> i did...
[03:38] <LjL> Kuriyaki: alright, so it's FAT, and FAT can be written to safely, so you don't need FUSE. use the console: if you have the NTFS drive mounted, type "sudo cp -a /place/where/ntfs/is/mounted/* /media/EXTERNAL"
[03:38] <majortom> LjL: nope..
[03:38] <OzoneCo> they too busy
[03:38] <OzoneCo> figure more than just i run both
[03:38] <Kuriyaki> What would that command do?
[03:39] <Kuriyaki> I don't want to delete or alter the files on the drive
[03:39] <LjL> OzoneCo: well, it's still offtopic for here. anyway, there are logs, but i doubt you can check them if you can't get into the GUI. perhaps with a Windows install CD, booting into console mode.
[03:39] <Flannel> OzoneCo: this is not a #ubuntu-we-support-everything channel, we don't know what might be wrong with windows, as... that's not something we deal with regularly
[03:39] <Kuriyaki> sudo cp -a /dev/sda1* /media/EXTERNAL ?
[03:39] <Kuriyaki> copy and paste...
[03:39] <OzoneCo> kkkk
[03:40] <LjL> Kuriyaki: it will copy all files and directories from the NTFS drive right into the external drive.  so, it will certainly change the contents of the external drive, but not of the NTFS drive
[03:40] <LjL> Kuriyaki: no
[03:40] <LjL> Kuriyaki: /dev/sda1 is the device, not the place it's mounted. you need to give the place it's mounted
[03:40] <LjL> Kuriyaki: do this
[03:40] <riotkittie> err
[03:40] <Indref> Who's up for a super geeky question.
[03:41] <LjL> Kuriyaki:   sudo mkdir /media/ntfsdrive   ;   sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ntfsdrive    ;    cp -a /media/ntfsdrive/* /media/EXTERNAL/
[03:41] <Indref> Involving regex
[03:41] <LjL> !ask
[03:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:41] <Indref> What is a regex for */food/src/*
[03:41] <Kuriyaki> Ok I'll try that right now
[03:42] <LjL> Indref: meaning?
[03:42] <Indref> Keep in mind, I had no idea what rege was until five minutes ago.
[03:42] <LjL> Indref: anything followed by  /food/src/  followed by anything?
[03:42] <Indref> LjL, Exactly.
[03:42] <LjL> Indref: ".*/food/src/.*"
[03:42] <_Andrew> uhh... looks like it matches anything with /food/src/ in it
[03:42] <_Andrew> * == all
[03:42] <Indref> LjL, Let me try, just a sec..
[03:42] <ravalox> Hey, I'm trying to execute two commands from the same console line, they need to run simultaneously
[03:43] <_Andrew> so anything here/food/src/ anything here
[03:43] <Jordan_U> ravalox: <command one > & < command 2 >
[03:43] <Flannel> _Andrew: /food/src/ will work.  Because it'll match the internals, and still make it work.
[03:43] <juanchito2006> Hello, I need to know which is the best application for coping data from NTFS partitions
[03:44] <_Andrew> ok
[03:44] <juanchito2006> !ntfs
[03:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:44] <Flannel> juanchito2006: `cp` or, in nautilus,  "click and drag"
[03:44] <Indref> That didn't work :[
[03:44] <Jordan_U> juanchito2006: Just mount it and copy the files, no extra applications needed
[03:44] <Flannel> Indref: #ubuntu-offtopic, we'll talk more.
[03:44] <Indref> RegEx is insanely hard.
[03:44] <DrBanzai> LjL, Do you have a link for libSDL-2.0, please?
[03:45] <OzoneCo> LjL is gone
[03:46] <juanchito2006> thanks!
[03:46] <Toma-> !herd3
[03:46] <ubotu> To download Feisty Fawn Herd 3, visit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-3/ - read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd3, and consider doing the tests at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[03:47] <DrBanzai> Oh...thanks OzoneCo
[03:47] <mitch_> I am trying to mount a windows disc so I can retrieve the info off of it. I tried mkdir /mnt/win and I got the permission denied response.
[03:47] <FireCat> How is Feisty coming along? Fairly stable yet?
[03:48] <kitche> mitch_: sudo mkdir /media/win
[03:48] <kitche> FireCat: ask in #ubuntu
[03:48] <kitche> FireCat: ask in #ubuntu+1*
[03:48] <Flannel> FireCat: it's still alpha.
[03:48] <xixor> so, I am installing ubuntu for the first time, 6.10, but it seems to take a very long time.  After my 3rd try, it finally got to 62% but then stopped responding.  Could it be faulty installation media (this is the second time I have tried it), problem with hardware?  Also, is there a way I can mount the installation iso and install from my hard drive?
[03:48] <mitch_> OK
[03:48] <Toma-> What kernel version is in feisty?
[03:49] <FireCat> join #ubuntu+1
[03:49] <Jordan_U> xixor: How much RAM do you have?
[03:49] <Toma-> :>
[03:49] <mitch_> I guess if you then enter your password and it brings you back to the comand promt it worked??
[03:49] <Jordan_U> mitch_: Yup
[03:49] <Asc> Does feisty have the drive encryption features from Debian etch?
[03:50] <mitch_> Thanks. I will try to get the rest. I will probably be back...
[03:50] <xixor> Jordan_U: 2 gigs
[03:51] <Jordan_U> xixor: That is obviously more than enough :) Have you tried the alternate install CD?
[03:51] <Asc> xixor - I usually recommend using the alternate install CD because it breaks less.
[03:52] <mitch_> It say only root can do the next step. How do I log in as root. (Knows what root means and how I can break stuff)
[03:52] <stratusfear> mitch_  type su
[03:52] <Asc> mitch_: use 'sudo [command] '
[03:53] <Flannel> mitch_: ubuntu doesn't use root, we use sudo instead.
[03:53] <Flannel> !sudo | mitch_
[03:53] <ubotu> mitch_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:53] <mitch_> Thanks.
[03:53] <xixor> Jordan_U: what is the alternative install CD?  I've not heard of it
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> !alternate | xixor
[03:53] <juanchito2006> I want to errase data from a USB drive but it says it's read-only. What do I do?
[03:53] <ubotu> xixor: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:53] <mitch_> I get it. I should have asked when Kitche added it to my first command
[03:53] <codi> how can i remove items from my applications menu?
[03:53] <beholder> Anyone know a good way to get Slony (Postgres Replication system) working on Ubuntu besides compiling?
[03:54] <xixor> Jordan_U: is it available for download on ubuntu.com?
[03:54] <_Andrew> xixor: If you can't get 6.10 edgy working you could try installing Dapper Dake
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> !info slony1-bin
[03:55] <ubotu> slony1-bin: replication system for PostgreSQL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.5-2 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 560 kB
[03:55] <biglinux> eai
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> beholder: ^^ ?
[03:55] <_Andrew> Dapper is a long term support release
[03:55] <mitch_> How do I find the special device name of a Hard Disc I haven't Mounted yet?
[03:55] <xixor> _Andrew, : is that 6.05?
[03:55] <Asc> xixor: you don't really have to be a leet haxxor or anything to use the alternate install cd, it's just a little less newbie-friendly
[03:55] <Flannel> xixor: 6.06, but yes. that's dapper
[03:55] <biglinux> tem alguem que fala porugues
[03:55] <mitch_> i.e. Hda1 doesn't exist
[03:55] <Flannel> xixor: alternate CD is just a textmode GUI instead of a real GUI
[03:56] <Flannel> !pt | biglinux
[03:56] <ubotu> biglinux: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:56] <Teknos> Can someone help me, I can't even get hello world.c to compile with gcc
[03:56] <beholder> ubotu: Hmm, that's not a very recent version.
[03:56] <xixor> ah, found it, downloading it now, going to give it a shot
[03:56] <codi> anyone know how to remove items from my start menu
[03:56] <xixor> The normal installation CD doesn't have an option to do a text-mode only install?
[03:56] <momo> I tried to uninstall totem through synaptic. but i it tells me that i have to uninstall the ubuntu desktop. Is there a way of taking out totem and leaving the dektop
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> codi: System > Preferences > Menu layout
[03:56] <kitche> Teknos: did you install build-essential
[03:56] <Flannel> xixor: nope, it's just a liveCD/installer
[03:56] <codi> sorry i called it start menu, but i figured it would be a way to illicit some sort of response
[03:56] <codi> thanks!
[03:57] <Teknos> just a normal install
[03:57] <xixor> Flannel: what does the "Live" in the title of the CD mean?  it downloads the latest packages from the web?
[03:57] <Teknos> when i installed ubuntu the other day
[03:57] <Flannel> xixor: no, that it boots a real OS, for you to play with.
[03:57] <kitche> Teknos: ok install build-essentials need that to compile anything
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> codi: hehe.  "Applications Menu" would be more appropriate in the future, but yeah, we know what you mean
[03:57] <jsizzle> live cd's can run linux by booting from cd
[03:57] <xixor> Flannel: ahh, ok
[03:57] <mitch_> How do I find the special device name of a Hard Disc I haven't Mounted yet?
[03:57] <Flannel> xixor: the liveCD actually doesn't download the latest packages, the alternate CD will, actually.
[03:57] <codi> yah, i tried that the first time, but got no response
[03:57] <codi> it worked perfectly, thanks again
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> kitche, Teknos: build-essential without the s on the end I think
[03:57] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | momo
[03:57] <ubotu> momo: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[03:58] <codi> second question, anyone know anything about kompozer, and nvu replacement?
[03:58] <Render> sooo, the live cds for k/ubuntu keep locking up at the splash screen. why?
[03:58] <Flannel> Render: did you verify the CD?
[03:58] <Render> yep
[03:58] <kitche> tonyyarusso: yeah no s :(
[03:58] <_Andrew> Render, which version?
[03:58] <Kuriyaki> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cp -a /dev/sda1* /media/EXTERNAL
[03:58] <Kuriyaki> cp: cannot create special file `/media/EXTERNAL/sda1': Permission denied
[03:59] <Render> kubuntu 6.10 and ubuntu 6.10
[03:59] <juanchito2006> !ntfs
[03:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:59] <Teknos> ok installing now, thank you
[03:59] <kitche> Kuriyaki: you have to mount the drive with sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/EXTERNAL
[03:59] <TheLance> guys is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without deleting hte home folder or desktop items?
[04:00] <TheLance> not to mention a way to do it from the recovery single users mode
[04:00] <mitch_> What is the difference between sda1 and hda1
[04:00] <Kuriyaki> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/EXTERNAL busy
[04:00] <Kuriyaki> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/EXTERNAL
[04:00] <Render> anyone?  =[
[04:00] <kitche> mitch_: hda1 is ide drive and sda1 is either usb drive or a scsi drive or SATA drive
[04:00] <RxDx> TheLance, many users make 2 diff partitions.. one in / and other in /home.. them when u reinstall you wont loose your personal files
[04:00] <mitch_> lol
[04:01] <Jordan_U> TheLance: other than putting /home on another partition I don't think so.
[04:01] <mitch_> Thats why it wouldn't mount
[04:01] <TheLance> well the problem is
[04:01] <TheLance>  i can't even log into gnome
[04:01] <momo> thanks. also i wanted to install a add-on for xmms is the avi.. i want ti to play avi files so i got a tar.gz file which i unpacked. and i have a folder now with all the files inside. there is a install-sh ...shell script.. i assume i run that script to install the add-on
[04:01] <TheLance> i get stuck at this screen
[04:01] <TheLance> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2094774#post2094774
[04:01] <TheLance> so i can't create a new partition without a reformat
[04:02] <wounded> momo: There is an xmms thing that lets you play videos from xmms with mplayer i think.
[04:02] <Render> locking up at live cd splash screen? anyone?
[04:02] <david> hi
[04:02] <TheLance> i'm screwed aint i?
[04:02] <FireCat> render: try noapic or noacpi
[04:02] <Jordan_U> Render: Try the alternate install CD, never failed me before :)
[04:03] <Render> how do i do that
[04:03] <Render> the first one
[04:03] <FireCat> put it on the end of the kernel line you are gooting
[04:03] <FireCat> booting
[04:03] <Jordan_U> TheLance: No, you can just back up your /home and re-install.
[04:03] <_David-> I can't get the ethernet to work on my machine, it worked before, but now.. nothing. it's plugged into the switch, but the light on the switch doesn't even light up
[04:03] <TheLance> how do i do that?
[04:04] <TheLance> cause i'm not even able to log into gnome
[04:04] <Render> er, im new to linux.. im just pressing the glowing orange buttons  =x
[04:04] <TheLance> i'm stuck in that screen.
[04:04] <TheLance> my younger sister messed it up last night
[04:04] <Jordan_U> TheLance: Back it up from the LiveCD
[04:04] <Kuriyaki> May someone help me transferring my files...?
[04:04] <TheLance> whats the command for that?
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> Kuriyaki: explain your situation please?
[04:04] <mztriz> I can only connect to the internet with dhclient, and I didn't mind doing that but  now, it keeps connecting my my neighbours network.. so I need help trying to configure this thing..
[04:04] <Jordan_U> TheLance: And remember to give your sis a limited account :)
[04:04] <Render> so how do i put it onto the kernel line?
[04:04] <dauoalagio> hello even after looking at ubuntu's restricted format page, i still couldn't get AVI's to play.  any ideas?
[04:04] <MikeyMike> :)
[04:05] <TheLance> well it was done because she put a floppy in
[04:05] <TheLance> and deleted it
[04:05] <TheLance> and apparently it went crazy
[04:05] <Elly> hey guys...I'm having problems using ndiswrapper, specifically it complains of a version mismatch
[04:05] <kitche> dauoalagio: depends AVI is just a container it can be any format
[04:05] <mitch_> How do I find the special device name of a Hard Disc I haven't Mounted yet? Not sure what part to change to fix this message??
[04:06] <TheLance> now whats the exact command to backup the home folder?
[04:06] <mitch_> whoops...
[04:06] <Kuriyaki> tonyyarusso: LjL: Kuriyaki:   sudo mkdir /media/ntfsdrive   ;   sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ntfsdrive    ;    cp -a /media/ntfsdrive/* /media/EXTERNAL/
[04:06] <Kuriyaki> I tried doing what LjL tried helping me do
[04:06] <Jordan_U> dauoalagio: Try VLC
[04:06] <Kuriyaki> but I can't it to work...
[04:06] <dauoalagio> kitche, i don't know if mp3 or anything else works.  but how can i get AVI's to work.  multiple AVI's don't work
[04:06] <TheLance> i'm still a newb at this command line stuff
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> Kuriyaki: what are the errors?
[04:06] <dauoalagio> Jordan_U, is that in the repositories?
[04:07] <Kuriyaki> cp: cannot create special file `/media/EXTERNAL/sda1': Permission denied
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> Kuriyaki: Needs sudo
[04:07] <Jordan_U> TheLance: You don't need to use the command line, the liveCD has a GUI.
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> !sudo | Kuriyaki
[04:07] <ubotu> Kuriyaki: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:07] <TheLance> yeah ok
[04:07] <mitch_> (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
[04:07] <mitch_>        instead of some logical partition inside?)  Sorry copy and paste is different too...lol
[04:07] <Jordan_U> dauoalagio: Yes.
[04:07] <TheLance> but how do i back it up then?
[04:07] <dauoalagio> Jordan_U under what name?
[04:07] <Warbo> Hi, I'm building Dapper's gtk2-engines source for Edgy and using checkinstall to make a package of it, but even when I stick the version number really high APT wants to update to Edgy's stock version, how can I stop it wanting to upgrade (the update manager gets annoying when I don't want to update that package)
[04:07] <M_Cheevy> quick question on Dapper Live Disc installs using dmraid.  When the installer asks me to pick a root partition it only shows the sda devices not the /dev/mapper devices, is that okay?
[04:07] <TheLance> burn a dvd?
[04:08] <TheLance> and i probably cant do that
[04:08] <Jordan_U> dauoalagio: "vlc"
[04:08] <BobSongs> I'm using Dapper Drake on standard PC. When starting Nautlius using 'gksudo' I get this warning: "While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed." I've gotten this under Breezy Badger too. Do any Eft or Fawn users get this too?
[04:08] <TheLance> because i only have one dvd-r drive
[04:08] <dauoalagio> Jordan_U oh i was using "VLC"
[04:08] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[04:08] <Kuriyaki> I'm giving up on this...
[04:08] <M_Cheevy> howdy KE
[04:08] <Warbo> BobSongs: I keep getting that in my terminals, but since nothing bad seems to happen I ignore it
[04:08] <KnowledgEngi> i have problem with the mouse
[04:09] <M_Cheevy> never give up! ;)
[04:09] <KnowledgEngi> i changed 4 mouses
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> BobSongs: first off, why are you starting nautilus with sudo?
[04:09] <KnowledgEngi> and the mouse buttons do not work
[04:09] <Kuriyaki> I've been doing this all afternoon
[04:09] <juanchito2006> !gparted
[04:09] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:09] <TheLance> now what do i do once i get into the live cd to back it up
[04:09] <TheLance> k
[04:09] <M_Cheevy> KE: sounds like you may have the mouse set up wrong in your X config file
[04:09] <mitch_> I just can't figure out what to call the second harddisc. It say that sda1 is mounted on / which makes me think that that is my first disc. So what do I call the second windows disc to mount it?
[04:10] <kitche> mitch_: probably /dev/sdb1
[04:10] <BobSongs> Warbo: Yeah. Nothing goes wrong. True. Just wondering if I haven't installed something. tonyyarusso: I host my own website using Apache and I move files from time to time graphically.
[04:10] <Jordan_U> BobSongs: that can safely be ignored
[04:10] <BobSongs> Thanks everyone. I just feel like I'm not being good to my PC.
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> BobSongs: eww.  sudoing nautilus can get sketchy, so be careful.
[04:10] <CyberCod> is it possible to use drivers meant for kernel 2.4.xx for 2.6.xx by any means?
[04:10] <M_Cheevy> mitch_: you can change the boot parameters to nosplash verbose to see what it's called when it's recognised
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> no offense, I just don't recommend it
[04:10] <Warbo> tonyyarusso: still, gksudo is better than sudo
[04:11] <overclocker> hi, how could i enable both cores in a core 2 duo?
[04:11] <an0k> !svn
[04:11] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[04:11] <M_Cheevy> Cyber: I wouldn't rely on the mods if I did
[04:11] <J-_> i always gksudo nautilus? =\
[04:11] <TheLance> damn it
[04:11] <BobSongs> tonyyarusso: Understood. But I'm very careful not to do anything silly. It's just a home PC, by the way; if anything goes wrong all the documents are saved and there's no harm done.
[04:11] <TheLance> the live cd doesn't recognize the hd
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> BobSongs: Good :)
[04:11] <robdeman> hey folks.. where is my personal contab file located?
[04:11] <Asc> BobSongs: you can probably chown -r /var/www to your normal user if you want to.
[04:11] <dbglt> what's the battery util for a laptop called?
[04:11] <TheLance> how am i gonna do it without that part
[04:11] <CyberCod> I'm just having a real hard time getting a 56k modem to work
[04:11] <M_Cheevy> TheLance: RAID array?
[04:12] <dbglt> I closed it and can't reopen it :\
[04:12] <J-_> crap, thought this was offtopic lol
[04:12] <momo> why can't i play a video that is stored in my windows box, when i copy it over it works?
[04:12] <TheLance> what do you mean by that?
[04:12] <dbglt> the battery monitor thingo in ubuntu
[04:12] <Asc> CyberCod: internal modem?
[04:12] <BobSongs> tonyyarusso: Besides: I tend to run around with scissors now and then. ;-)
[04:12] <M_Cheevy> Lance: are the drives set up in a raid array?
[04:12] <Kuriyaki> I'm using the Boot CD
[04:12] <TheLance> no
[04:12] <TheLance> just your basic
[04:12] <TheLance> ide
[04:12] <Kuriyaki> so I can't download anything to it
[04:12] <mister_roboto> robdeman: /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[04:12] <M_Cheevy> Lance: okay, there goes that idea...
[04:12] <CyberCod> well, yes and no, i've got two I'm trying to get either to work... apparently they're both winmodems, and the only drivers I can find are for kernel 2.4
[04:12] <overclocker> hi, how could i enable both cores in a core 2 duo?, i just see 1 core
[04:12] <Jordan_U> momo: What are you using to play it?
[04:13] <momo> totem.
[04:13] <TheLance> is there a way i can get it to detect it?
[04:13] <M_Cheevy> Cyber: ah the joys of win modems... it's why I went external for years
[04:13] <kitche> overclocker: you need a smp kernel most likely
[04:13] <momo> wait..no. its movie player\
[04:13] <Jordan_U> overclocker: Install an smp kernel
[04:13] <Alibaba1> hi all
[04:13] <CyberCod> well, I would but lshw returns the serial port as "UNCLAIMED"
[04:13] <M_Cheevy> quick question on Dapper Live Disc installs using dmraid.  When the installer asks me to pick a root partition it only shows the sda devices not the /dev/mapper devices, is that okay?
[04:13] <funnyman3595> I've got a major problem with my GUI.  Gnome seems perfectly responsive, until you actually try to run anything, at which point it responds slowly, if at all.  I can't even get the shutdown dialog to launch.  Ctrl+Alt+F1 (etc.) work (that's how I got here).  I've tried a reboot, but that didn't really help, and Gnome was very slow on startup.  Any suggestions?  (Sorry if I don't respond promptly, I'm multitasking.)
[04:14] <mitch_> Boot Parameters? I am a noob. I have done ok so far. I have installed ubuntu and it is running. I got irc working..now I am trying to recover my music from my old windows system. I will look up the bott parameters thing so I understand what you are saying.
[04:14] <robdeman> mister_ronoto: ehrm w8 this box is Fedora, not Ubuntu... different cronttab locations I guess?
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[04:14] <CyberCod> I'm looking into usb modems, but they seem to be winmodems as well
[04:14] <cchanc1> !ops
[04:14] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:14] <Jordan_U> momo: try using vlc and "open network"
[04:14] <Asc> CyberCod: If you use ndiswrapper, you should be able to use the windows driver.  Never done it myself (because I have an external), but you should be able to find a guide somewhere.
[04:14] <cchanc1> nvm
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> cchanc1: so slow ;)
[04:14] <mister_roboto> robdeman: probably :)    should be under var though, i think
[04:14] <Asc> wasn't he banned>
[04:14] <cchanc1> i know
[04:14] <Warbo> Can anyone help me stop the gtk2-engines package I built, and gave a larger version number than Edgy's, coming up as having a Distribution Upgrade available in the update manager?
[04:14] <overclocker> i have  2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 21:16:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:14] <_David-> sorry about that, I fixed it...
[04:14] <M_Cheevy> mitch_: in grub you can edit the boot parameters -- you should see a HOWTO file if you search
[04:14] <BobSongs> Asc, Thanks. I don't mind using the command prompt from time to time to move files into /var/www. But there are a few subfolders under www and I tend to prefer a double-click to remembering folder hierarchy.
[04:14] <CyberCod> ndiswrapper for a modem?  I thought that was just for ethernet
[04:14] <mister_roboto> robdeman: or possibly /etc
[04:14] <M_Cheevy> CyberCod: good old serial modems
[04:15] <robdeman> mister_roboto: ok cool lets check
[04:15] <CyberCod> M_Cheevy  sure would if I can get the serial port to work
[04:15] <M_Cheevy> Cyber:  you should be able to get a serial ide card for dirt cheap these days
[04:15] <cchanc1> Any one got some spare time on their hands they like to use to help me setup sharring. No matter how hard i try i just cant get it
[04:15] <Asc> BobSongs: Yeah, gui's good for drag and drop.  Although I've pretty much stopped using it for anything else.
[04:15] <funnyman3595> It's bad enough that I'm having flashbacks of *looks around shiftily* windows.
[04:15] <Byan> how do I get RAID5 set up?
[04:16] <M_Cheevy> cchanc: whole books are written on samba (windows shares for linux)
[04:16] <Asc> CyberCod: I think ndiswrapper does winmodems and wireless.  Hadn't heard about ethernet until now.
[04:16] <CyberCod> Its a charity system anyway for some friends
[04:16] <CyberCod> I just want to get it online so I can get it out of my house
[04:16] <mitch_> M_Cheevy, thanks. I got the second disc mounted. Now it says that Root owns it. I can't change permissions. I assume I would use a sudo command to change the permissions from root to user?
[04:16] <cchanc1> M_Cheevy, all i want to do is allow my network to use my internet connection, nothing to do with samba
[04:17] <M_Cheevy> Byan: depends on the raid system.  There is a good FakeRaidHowTo on ubuntuwiki
[04:17] <dbglt> I used to be able to scale my processors (power them down) with the power management function, but now that function is greyed out
[04:17] <dbglt> any ideas what has changed?
[04:17] <kitche> Asc: winmodems usually work in Linux at least now you might find a few that don't, but anywyas ndiswrapper is for wireless
[04:17] <M_Cheevy> mitch_: yes, or you can change it using parameters in /etc/fstab
[04:17] <BobSongs> Asc, ;-) Command-line's okay. I've used it since DOS 3.2, long before I'd ever HEARD of Windows.
[04:17] <TheLance> how do i getthe livecd to detect my hd?
[04:17] <TheLance> the edgyeft cd
[04:17] <Pelo> the you mount it
[04:17] <mitch_> I will look up those permission changing commands.
[04:17] <M_Cheevy> Bob: DOS3.2 was before there was a "decent" windows
[04:18] <TheLance> how od i mount it?
[04:18] <Pelo> TheLance,  you mount it, it won'T auto detect
[04:18] <TheLance> how?
[04:18] <Byan> M_Cheevy: ok...
[04:18] <TheLance> is there a command for that?
[04:18] <Pelo> TheLance,  yes there is , give me a minute to type it out
[04:18] <Asc> kitche: really?  Mine doesn't seem to... but I haven't tried very hard to get it working.
[04:18] <CyberCod> I think we need a linux mafia... so we can go to the hardware manufacturers and say "Look, release open source drivers, or you'll be sleepin with da penguins!"
[04:18] <TheLance> k
[04:18] <Rasta> what is faster, upload say a thousand of html files to a server trough ftp or zipit, upload the zip and decompress it on the server with ssh?
[04:18] <Toma-> is there a way to run Mac OSX programs on ubuntu? ...kinda like wine?
[04:18] <M_Cheevy> cchanc1: should be a simple matter of configuring the gateway on the networked PC's to point to the box.  Check out the Linux Network Administrators Guide in the LDP
[04:18] <TheLance> yes toma
[04:18] <TheLance> vmware
[04:19] <Toma-> ahh. thought someone would say that
[04:19] <TheLance> if you have another partition of mac
[04:19] <Asc> CyberCod: until about a year ago the only thing I'd used the command line for was ipconfig and nmap :p
[04:19] <Toma-> or pearpc
[04:19] <Pelo> TheLance,  go to the menu > system > admin > gparted,  just so you can see what partition your hdd is , something like /dev/had1  or something
[04:19] <kitche> Toma-: not really need an emulator to do it
[04:19] <TheLance> k
[04:19] <digin4> hi, what's the best composite manager?
[04:19] <M_Cheevy> Byan:  Many on the motherboard RAID systems are "FakeRaid" or software raid, the howto tells you how to deal with it.
[04:19] <overclocker> i'm using  2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP and i just see 1 core, how could i enable both cores in a core 2 duo?
[04:19] <Toma-> kitche: dang :/ thanks
[04:19] <Jordan_U> Rasta: Depends on the CPU and connection speeds
[04:19] <TheLance> yep
[04:19] <cchanc1> M_Cheevy. Its not and yes ive tryed that its ends badly
[04:19] <Ciaus> M_Cheevy, software raid isnt raid on system boards
[04:19] <TheLance> /dev/hda1
[04:19] <mister_roboto> robdeman: have you tried doing a "man crontab" to see where fedora puts them?
[04:19] <Pelo> TheLance,   then go the menu > applications > accessories > terminal , to open the terminal
[04:19] <CyberCod> Asc, whats command line have to do with a linux mafia?
[04:19] <TheLance> k
[04:20] <TheLance> i'm already in terminal
[04:20] <robdeman> mister_roboto: ah lemme check
[04:20] <Falkon4860> I'm very new to Ubuntu.  I'm trying to install compiz, so I downloaded some tar.gz files off the Ubuntu forums.  How do I install these?  (or is there a better way to get compiz)?
[04:20] <Jordan_U> digin4: There is no "best for everyone" I like beryl, but there is nothing wrong with compiz
[04:20] <Asc> CyberCod: Nothing, you'd just mentioned that you've used it since about before I was born.
[04:20] <M_Cheevy> Ciaus: are we beginning a semantic argument?
[04:20] <Pelo> TheLance,   type  "sudo mkdir /media/HDA"    to make a mounting point in the media dir
[04:20] <dbglt> is there a way to tell if my ubuntu kernel has speedstep support built in?
[04:20] <digin4> Jordan_U, seems i gotta try all of them ;) thanks
[04:20] <Jordan_U> Falkon4860: Yes, there is a better way
[04:20] <CyberCod> no, no no.. not I... I said no such thing... I've only been on linux for about 5 months
[04:20] <Warbo> By the way, bought a wireless optical mouse today and it worked straight off. Thanks to the people who sort that kind of stuff out :)
[04:20] <Nutubuntu> Hello all - has anyone used Bluefish-unstable 1.1.2 enough to know how block folding works? I'm trying to figure it out and ... so far ... feeling baffled
[04:21] <Ciaus> M_Cheevy, sure why not.....but raid on a system board is by its existance is Hardware based
[04:21] <TheLance> k
[04:21] <Pelo> TheLance,   then type "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/HDA"  to mount the drive,  it should appear on your desktop
[04:21] <Jordan_U> !compiz | Falkon4860
[04:21] <ubotu> Falkon4860: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:21] <Asc> CyberCod: You said with pre-95 windows
[04:22] <CyberCod> nope, not I
[04:22] <Falkon4860> Ok I'll check that out, thanks
[04:22] <CyberCod> I started with win98
[04:22] <TheLance> k
[04:22] <Pelo> TheLance, did it work ?
[04:22] <CyberCod> DOS, not linux
[04:22] <M_Cheevy> Ciaus: not if it requires drivers to be recognised by the OS, the OS is providing the raid functionality not the bios on the raid controller, true hardware raid makes the array transparant to the OS, it just handles it like a normal drive, no drivers needed, hence on the hardware raid versus using software raid.
[04:22] <TheLance> i don't see the hd on my desktop pelo
[04:22] <TheLance> so no
[04:22] <CyberCod> ugh... my brain hurts
[04:22] <TheLance> let me try it again
[04:22] <Perryman> sweet sweet gAIM
[04:22] <Asc> CyberCod: Eh, kay.
[04:23] <RememberPOL> Is there a way to install build-essential without the CDROM?
[04:23] <Ciaus> M_Cheevy, I can agree with that
[04:23] <Pelo> TheLance,   browse your way to the media folder from the places menu
[04:23] <Ciaus> :-)
[04:23] <Pelo> TheLance,  what format was that hdd in ?
[04:23] <TheLance> whatever one linux uses
[04:23] <M_Cheevy> Ciaus: depends how old you are if you remember SCSI RAID controllers that handled the RAID through BIOS
[04:23] <Pelo> what file system I mean
[04:23] <kitche> RememberPOL: yes rempve the apt-cdrom line from your source.list
[04:23] <Pelo> ok
[04:23] <TheLance> i dont even see a media folder
[04:23] <digin4> what's the name of the help bot in here?
[04:23] <Pelo> brb
[04:23] <TheLance> i typed the command again
[04:23] <Ciaus> M_Cheevy, I do
[04:23] <Perryman> Would anyone happen to know how I can re-install mono? i'm having problems with any programs i try to install that make changes to mono configuration
[04:23] <CyberCod> digin4 ubotu
[04:23] <TheLance> and it said it already existed
[04:23] <TheLance> so
[04:24] <digin4> thanks
[04:24] <M_Cheevy> Ciaus: that's why I use that terminology, it comes from "back in the day"
[04:24] <RememberPOL> kitche: thanks
[04:24] <M_Cheevy> quick question on Dapper Live Disc installs using dmraid.  When the installer asks me to pick a root partition it only shows the sda devices not the /dev/mapper devices, is that okay?
[04:24] <rizzo> I'm trying to re-install cupsys but it is complaining that it can't find /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:24] <rizzo> (I managed to hork it up on the first try)
[04:24] <rizzo> this is on a headless would-be printer server
[04:24] <TheLance> well pelo
[04:25] <TheLance> i got access to the HD now yes
[04:25] <Ciaus> M_Cheevy, I usually reserve the term software raid for "pure" OS raid, where there is no Raid controller and processor under the covers
[04:25] <funnyman3595> Maybe more details will help.  Okay, as said, Gnome is responsive, but programs start slowly if at all (including the shutdown window).  Top reports 95% idle, swap file is only at about 2% of capacity.  Reboot didn't help at all, and X/Gnome started much slower than usual.  The system was originally Dapper, but upgraded to Edgy.
[04:25] <TheLance> but how do i backup the home folder now?
[04:25] <Pelo> TheLance,  so it is done %
[04:25] <hdz> anyone installed ubuntu with virtual pc?
[04:25] <TheLance> can the live cd detect an external hd?
[04:25] <TheLance> i have one of those
[04:25] <Pelo> TheLance, same way , should be anyway
[04:25] <Perryman> does ubuntu come with an rpm program?
[04:25] <hdz> yeah usually
[04:25] <M_Cheevy> Ciaus: I guess the difference for me is with "hardware raid" I don't have any trouble installing OS's, but with software raid it's hit F6 or read HowTo Files till you're blue in the face
[04:26] <ShadowX> hey guys I need some help setting up a wireless card in a laptop
[04:26] <jrsup1> @hdz - yeah...I've installed ubuntu on MS VPC
[04:26] <Pelo> Perryman,  there is one in synaptic
[04:26] <TheLance> damn that hard
[04:26] <cchanc1> !fuse
[04:26] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:26] <Perryman> Pelo: so i should be able to install mono from that
[04:26] <TheLance> how do i know what its gonna call the external HD?
[04:26] <Perryman> !mono
[04:26] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[04:26] <funnyman3595> And about 82M free memory.  There's not a thing I can come up with that would make it be running slowly.  Help?
[04:26] <M_Cheevy> TheLance: LiveCD recognized my USB memory card, no probs, so external HD should be fine
[04:26] <TheLance> k
[04:26] <Warbo> Perryman: You can install RPM in Ubuntu (just that it won't map to Dpkg's dependencies and stuff unless you convert it with alien)
[04:26] <TheLance> i'm gonna try that then
[04:26] <erisco> I installed frostwire, however when I try to run it it reports    runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[04:26] <Pelo> TheLance,  but I am not very good with external peripheral , maybe someone else
[04:26] <TheLance> i gotta use windows to delete all of the stuff on it first
[04:26] <Perryman> ah
[04:26] <erisco> where is this file located?
[04:26] <TheLance> k thanks pelo
[04:27] <ploguidice> How do you install the SDL runtime librarys?
[04:27] <Pelo> Perryman,  I don't know what mono is , but read this it might help http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[04:27] <Flannel> TheLance: No, you can just reformat it.
[04:27] <Perryman> Warbo: i have problems installing beryl because i ran software updates and mono crashed
[04:27] <TheLance> you've been great he;p
[04:27] <ploguidice> I downloaded them but dont know how to install them
[04:27] <ShadowX> hey guys I need some help setting up a wireless card in a laptop
[04:27] <sapage_> !php
[04:27] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:27] <TheLance> well there is other stuff on it i need
[04:27] <Perryman> thanks
[04:27] <Pelo> ploguidice,  search for it in synaptic
[04:27] <ploguidice> Pelo:How?
[04:27] <M_Cheevy> Pelo: Mono allows you to serve .net pages on a linux web server
[04:27] <Flannel> TheLance: ah, righto then.  Delete!
[04:27] <Perryman> thanks
[04:27] <Pelo> ploguidice,  menu > system > admin > syanptic
[04:28] <Ciaus> M_Cheevy, the F6 which installs a device driver, isnt strictly Software raid, especially if the driver is acting as the hal for a real raid controller
[04:28] <Perryman> gotta catch some friends for a movie. you guys have been helpful as usual... that's goin in my bookmarks :)
[04:28] <hdz> jrs: you think it'd be possible to run virtual pc and make it to installed to a virtual drived file linux.vhd on windows while installing ubuntu, so it writes to that partition to a iso file, or would ubuntu be gettin messed up with that
[04:28] <Pelo> ploguidice,  search for it , select and apply
[04:28] <TheLance> k
[04:28] <M_Cheevy> Ciaus: that's only in windows... have a read in the Ubuntu wiki "FakeRaidHowTo"
[04:28] <TheLance> shit
[04:28] <Flannel> funnyman3595: try reseating the RAM
[04:28] <hdz> i really don't feel like repartitioning, neither do i feel like running 2 os's at once
[04:29] <TheLance> how do i give myself writing privaledges?
[04:29] <TheLance> to the external hd?
[04:29] <MikeyMike> mztriz asdf.
[04:29] <hdz> i think you're running the live cd
[04:29] <M_Cheevy> TheLance: type "man mount" at the prompt
[04:29] <TheLance> it won't let me directly write or delete from it
[04:29] <TheLance> yes i can
[04:29] <erisco> I installed frostwire, but where is runFrost.sh ?
[04:29] <TheLance> k
[04:29] <jrsup1> hdz: I'm not sure what you mean you want it to write the VHD partition to an ISO as well?
[04:29] <ploguidice> thnx
[04:29] <Ciaus> M_Cheevy, I install most flavors of OS's, as part of my daily work.....a driver no matter how it gets into an OS if it provides an interface to dedicated hardware, is not software raid
[04:30] <M_Cheevy> Ciaus: RAID goes back a ways before HALs
[04:30] <funnyman3595> Flannel: Not sure why that would help any.  I can run things just fine from a Ctrl+Alt+FX terminal, it's just the GUI that's borked.
[04:30] <hdz> ISO= i meant the settings in virtual PC would write to a file on root c in win at whatever size it needs
[04:30] <stormy|> What does it mean when you apt-get install something and ubuntu asks you to insert some version of the ubuntu setup disk... I inserted the one that I used and aparently it's the wrong one
[04:30] <M_Cheevy> basically lance I've just told you to RTFM
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> !rtfm | M_Cheevy
[04:30] <ubotu> M_Cheevy: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[04:31] <mitch_> What is an Operand??
[04:31] <M_Cheevy> tony: but "man <command>" is?
[04:31] <kitche> stormy|: you have the cdrom in your source.list
[04:31] <FearMoth> Hi, my ubuntu install defaulted to generic video/vesa driver when I installed, but I know there's a driver (in dapper anyways) that works with my laptop's video. lspci lists my graphics as Intel 82852/855GM, does anyone know what driver to use for this chip? Is this driver included with edgy?
[04:31] <hdz> manual to the binary command
[04:31] <muuhDBX> !seen aka_druid
[04:31] <ubotu> aka_druid is on IRC right now!
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> M_Cheevy: "I suggest looking at 'man <command>' - that will have a lot of detailed info about what you're trying to do.  :)
[04:31] <stormy|> kitche, what do you mean?
[04:31] <cchanc1> !unmount
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <cchanc1> how do i unmount
[04:32] <Ciaus> does edgy has improved wireless support for laptops?
[04:32] <mister_roboto> cchanc1: umount
[04:32] <M_Cheevy> tony: well, that's about what I said... but not so verbose ;)
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> M_Cheevy: 'k
[04:32] <mitch_> i.e. chmod -R /media/win.....Missing operand
[04:32] <kitche> stormy|: you need to edit /etc/apt/source.list and remove the cdrom line from it
[04:32] <ploguidice> does anyone here use visual boy advance?
[04:32] <M_Cheevy> tony: I just let him know that by using the man command he was basically reading the "fine" manual
[04:33] <jrsup1> hdz: I'm still a little lost in translation I think, but you can have VPC save the file wherever you want.
[04:33] <TheLance> yeah
[04:33] <funnyman3595> Flannel: And it's not something I can try at the moment, the comp's in use as a server.  I'll try it later tonight if I haven't solved this by then.
[04:33] <M_Cheevy> cchanc1: umount <mount point> || <mount device>
[04:33] <Asc> FearMoth: It sounds like probably it would be the i8[something]  driver.  I can try to look it up.
[04:33] <ploguidice> HEy I downloaded the DLS library because I needed them for visual boy advance
[04:33] <Mazus> does anyone know what would be causing this vlc error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3888/plain/
[04:33] <overclocker> anyone knows how to install an smp kernel in edgy?
[04:33] <ploguidice> then after installing SDL
[04:33] <hdz> the iso, i meant the .vhd file really means an iso image on the drive that's flexible to what you set it at GB wise to so i'd set it at 8gig or something should be fine right, what program did you say you used to run through windows to run ubuntu like in virtual pc
[04:33] <ploguidice> visualboyadvance still doesnt start
[04:33] <Flannel> overclocker: -generic
[04:33] <stormy|> thanks kitche
[04:33] <Ciaus> !wireless
[04:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:34] <Byan> =/ does anyone want to guide me in getting this software RAID5 to work...?
[04:34] <FearMoth> Asc: thanks, but I found on google that someone used i810, that seems familiar from my old xorg.conf. Are the intel drivers included in edgy?
[04:34] <Flannel> overclocker: assuming you have a intel-ish processor, that is.  smp has been rolled into the non since Dapper
[04:34] <hdz> anyone install this on a dual pc
[04:34] <ShadowX> hey guys I need some help setting up a wireless card in a laptop
[04:34] <overclocker> 4flannel: i just see 1 core and i have a core 2 duo
[04:34] <Asc> FearMoth: Probably, but you should search in synaptic for 'i810'
[04:34] <hdz> with the desktop version
[04:35] <FearMoth> thanks Asc
[04:35] <mitch_> kitche chmod -R /media/win    What am I missing. It says I am missing an operand?
[04:35] <Warbo> Can someone please tell me why a package wants to update from version 10-10 to 1:2.8.1-0ubuntu1? I don't want the package I built to update to Ubuntu's, but can't seem to stop it
[04:35] <mabus> every time I try to install a package with apt-get, it tries to remake my initrd (seems to be updating my linux-kernel-2.6.17-10-server package)... I don't want it to do this and potentially overwrite the changes I have made to it to allow me to boot into my encrypted environment. How can I stop it from trying to do this every instance of apt-get install.. I don't think apt-get remove my kernel would be a good idea, please can somebody offer me suggestion
[04:35] <kitche> mitch_: your missing the user that will own the directory
[04:35] <bulmer> mitch you are missing the owner
[04:35] <suffer> i'm having some trouble with mounted partitions, i decided to change where they are mounted, but GNOME still shows the old names (though it takes you to the right dir)
[04:35] <mitch_> I.e. me
[04:35] <mitch_> LOL
[04:35] <TheLance> k
[04:35] <Ciaus> Is this statement still accurate on the wifi pages?  "Note that you can not set up WPA encryption in a gui environment as of Feb 2006 but it is being developed and will come in the future."?
[04:36] <Asc> FearMoth: Should be a package like 'xserver-xorg-video-i810'... I use that driver, and it works just fine, though I have a different chipset.
[04:36] <Flannel> mabus: You should edit the appropriate lines in your menu.lst to re-implement those chagnes each time it's remade
[04:36] <TheLance> how do i give myself permission to add to the external hd
[04:36] <suffer> i thought it might be something with UUID, but it happens with regular fstab format too
[04:36] <Flannel> mabus: each kernel update recreates the grub menu.
[04:36] <t000r> hello, is it save to use gtkpod to upload an video to an G5.5 30GB iPod? (Is it just adding file and select the video or do I miss something?!)
[04:36] <TheLance> its called "RCA LYRA"
[04:36] <mitch_> I see. what do I call the regular user?
[04:36] <mabus> Flannel: well it's saying it doesn't have the tools to make my root disk
[04:36] <jrsup1> hdz: never heard of dual pc.  Microsoft's Virtual PC is free right now, but there are video issues with it.  You have to start it up in a low VGA mode and then check google for a flag you'll have to add to the grub menu.lst file to get the video to work right
[04:37] <TheLance> i'm in hte live CD
[04:37] <kitche> t000r: with video it's different not sure if there is an app that does ipodvideo yet
[04:37] <hdz> has anyone installed ubuntu with a wireless usb, (not having a wireless network) but connecting to other people in say your apt complex? :) can it detect that w/linksys in the instrallation process for updating kernel/files etc
[04:37] <mabus> Flannel: And I really did have to do a lot of fooling around to get this to work, I really don't want my kernel updated.. I can't stop this?
[04:37] <ploguidice> Can someone help me with this emulator?
[04:37] <cchanc1> Volume is dirty.
[04:37] <cchanc1> Run chkdsk and try again, or use the --force option.
[04:37] <cchanc1> Mount failed.
[04:37] <kitche> mitch_: whatever your user is that you log on as
[04:37] <cchanc1> How do i run chkdsk
[04:37] <juanchito2006> !mount
[04:37] <andresmujica> fsck
[04:37] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:37] <ShadowX> can someone help me get a wireless card workin in a laptop?
[04:37] <mitch_> Its my own name mitch.         mitch@Mitch-MrCrowley:~$ chmod mitch -R /media/win
[04:37] <mitch_> chmod: invalid mode: `mitch'
[04:38] <juanchito2006> !diskmounter
[04:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:38] <erisco> any shell script channels around here?
[04:38] <hdz> jrs: i meant smp, that was a different question, virtual pc can run up to 7 os's with option to write whatever gets written by the booted os within windows to a file that expands to whatever size it needs
[04:38] <stratusfear> i can shadowx
[04:38] <cchanc1> mitch_ its chown
[04:38] <bulmer> bash channel is on freenode
[04:38] <kitche> mitch_: chown -R mitche /media/win but umask would be easier
[04:38] <t000r> kitche: so gtkpod does not support video uploading?! because it accepts the file (using latest gtkpod/libgpod) without any warning.. i don't want to break something .. the ipod is currently "itunes build"..
[04:38] <Warbo> mitch_: try "sudo chown mitch -R /media/win"
[04:38] <mitch_> hang on
[04:38] <stratusfear> shadowx what's your problem?
[04:38] <Asc> FearMoth: if it doesn't work, a different version might.  Barring that, this site might help: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/documentation.html
[04:38] <Flannel> mabus: yeah.  Juts keep in mind you won't get kernel updates.  You're on edgy, right? remove the linux-server and linux-image-server packages (but not linux-image-[version stuff] -server package, thats your actual server).
[04:39] <ShadowX> ok, I just installed Ubuntu for a friend of mine on his laptop
[04:39] <t000r> is thre any irc channel with gtkpod/libgpod devs in?
[04:39] <kitche> t00r: no clue but ipodvideo support is limited that I know of
[04:39] <ShadowX> and now I cant get the card to work
[04:39] <ShadowX> Vendor: Atheros Communications
[04:39] <ShadowX> Device: AR5212 802.11abg NIC
[04:39] <TheLance> k
[04:39] <TheLance> how do i give myself permission to write to my external HD in the liveCD?
[04:40] <juanchito2006> !fstab
[04:40] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:40] <hdz> does ubuntu's linux partitioning have the ability to use the native fs to cfdisk if you have windows on disk0?
[04:40] <stratusfear> shadowx do you got the right modules?
[04:40] <ShadowX> i have no idea
[04:40] <mabus> Flannel: yeah, edgy. thanks a ton
[04:40] <mitch_> Ok, this is gonna take forever. But it is working.
[04:40] <ShadowX> I just installed tonight from the alternate CD cuz we couldnt get the livecd to owkr
[04:40] <stratusfear> what x are you using?
[04:40] <ShadowX> Im still a n00b myself, so Im still having issues lol
[04:40] <rizzo> what package provides /etc/cups/cupsd.conf?
[04:40] <ShadowX> me?
[04:40] <hdz> i should just install the damn thing
[04:40] <Flannel> mabus: but, you should be able to edit menu.lst to atuomatically regenerate your changes anyway, so even with upgrades you can boot.
[04:40] <mabus> Flannel: alternatively I could find out what is causing it to report that it can't make a new initrd (says it doesnt have the tools)... could it have to do with the fact that I made my own initrd?
[04:40] <stratusfear> yeah
[04:41] <kitche> TheLance: you can do it with chown ubuntu <mount point if you want since you are on teh livecd you won't effect anything really
[04:41] <Flannel> mabus: there's fields above the kernel listings, that talk about it.  kopt and stuff
[04:41] <mitch_> LOL, I still don't have permission??
[04:41] <stratusfear> shadowx what x are you using?
[04:41] <ploguidice> Can anyone help me with this emulator
[04:41] <ShadowX> um, the default one installed from the latest alt cd
[04:41] <ShadowX> Xorg I think
[04:41] <mabus> Flannel: I edited the automagic options for menu.lst, the problem is that it messses up when trying to actually make the rd
[04:41] <Flannel> mabus: that may be it.  Sure, others might be permission issues.
[04:41] <kitche> mitch_: by change what is your toher drive?
[04:41] <ploguidice> Can someone please help me setup a GBA emulator?
[04:41] <TheLance> how do I do that kitche?
[04:41] <kitche> mitch_: like the filesystem of it
[04:41] <TheLance> whats the command for it kitche?
[04:41] <ploguidice> I'm sure it won't take more than two minutes.
[04:42] <mitch_> ntfs
[04:42] <stratusfear> shadowx what x windows manager?
[04:42] <jt_a7x_3> Hi
[04:42] <ShadowX> gnome
[04:42] <stratusfear> ok
[04:42] <kitche> TheLance: I already told you tge command with chown
[04:42] <mabus> Flannel: and what you reccomended unfortunatel did not solve the problem
[04:42] <kitche> mitch_: ok you trying to jsut read it right? or you want write support
[04:42] <ploguidice> Will someone please help me with this emulator I'm sure it won't take long for someone who knows what they are doing
[04:42] <TheLance> so RCA LYRA Chown
[04:42] <ShadowX> btw sorry if I sound stupid, or seem a bit preoccupied. Im having alot of personal issues too and trying to do some other things as well. but Im focusing as much as I can :)
[04:42] <Flannel> mabus: eh?  It'll keep the kernels from upgrading.  I dont... Oh, you built you own kernel?
[04:42] <mabus> Flannel: Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version
[04:43] <mabus> I didn't build my own kernel, I made my own rootdisk.
[04:43] <mitch_> Well, I was gonna transfer about 100gb of music off of it. Then add it as a normal linux volume.
[04:43] <ploguidice> Can someone please give me a little kindness?
[04:43] <bulmer> ShadowX did dmesg detected your nic card?
[04:43] <TheLance> yeah i'm still new to this
[04:43] <kitche> mitch_: ok you probably need to use umask then
[04:43] <kitche> !ntfs|mitch_
[04:43] <ubotu> mitch_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:43] <ShadowX> dmesg?
[04:43] <stratusfear> shadow go to the prompt and type iwconfig
[04:43] <hdz> yo they got a bunch of linux gurus answering a thousand questions
[04:43] <sapage_> /exit
[04:43] <hdz> give em a break
[04:43] <Flannel> No idea.  I imagine it's trying to do some postinstall scriptsfrom your upgrade, and having issues.  I really don't know though.  You may try googling it.    I just ran the memtest86 but i dont knwo what to do with it.  can anyone advise me?
[04:44] <ploguidice> Any one whos good with linux want to lend a newb a hand setting up an emulator?
[04:44] <mindstate> !games
[04:44] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:44] <kitche> TheLance: sudo chown ubuntu /media/<mount point>
[04:44] <hdz> dublevista sounds like a bios problem
[04:44] <mitch_> kitche Thanks..I will likely be back. Have patience with me.
[04:44] <hdz> take off shadowing and reserved memory
[04:44] <TheLance> k
[04:44] <kitche> TheLance: then you mount the partition
[04:44] <ShadowX> stratusfear:  no wireless extentions
[04:45] <juanchito2006> !ntfs
[04:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:45] <ploguidice> ShadowX do you post on Totse?
[04:45] <ShadowX> Totse?
[04:45] <mitch_> kitche before I do his will I have to unmount what I already did??
[04:45] <dublevista> hdz: everone this afternoon thought it was a hardware problem, either ram or the CD ROm.
[04:45] <ploguidice> nvm I coulda sworn there's someone with your username on Totse
[04:45] <kitche> mitch_: well I would just to start fresh
[04:45] <stratusfear> shadow type lspci in the prompt
[04:46] <ShadowX> idk what it is lol so iunno
[04:46] <kitche> mitch_: just umount the drive
[04:46] <ploguidice> Then Nvm
[04:46] <cchanc1> :'(
[04:46] <mitch_> OK, sudo umount /media/win ??
[04:46] <kitche> mitch_: yes
[04:46] <mitch_> Nice!
[04:46] <jt_a7x_3> Yah, time to redo my ubuntu installation :-(
[04:47] <ShadowX> stratusfear:  02.04.0 Ethernet Controller Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[04:47] <juanchito2006> How do I mount a thumb drive?
[04:47] <stratusfear> shadow ok
[04:47] <kitche> juanchito2006: should automount
[04:47] <Asc> dublevista: installer problems are the realm of madness.  I always recommend using the alternate install CD because it doesn't break until after things are actually installed.
[04:48] <juanchito2006> I dismount ed it
[04:48] <dublevista> does anyone know how to run memtest 86?  i am running a vectra Pent III 933GHz 512 RAM
[04:48] <jt_a7x_3> 6.06 is the latest V of ubuntu correct?
[04:48] <kitche> juanchito2006: then it's mount /dev/xxx /media/xxx
[04:48] <hdz> i guess you can always fix shit with knoppix
[04:48] <stratusfear> shadow did you go to system, administer and netowrk and try to condfigure?
[04:48] <Quarupted_> macd,Ya home?
[04:48] <kitche> jt_a7x_3: no 6.10 is
[04:48] <jt_a7x_3> hmmm
[04:48] <dublevista> ASC: how do i get the alternate install?
[04:48] <kitche> !ohmy|hdz
[04:48] <Quarupted_> RACHEL!!!
[04:48] <ubotu> hdz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:49] <bytecolor> anyone have a clue why I have to restart Firefox to get audio (like on youtube) *after* running xmms?
[04:49] <Tido> is there a way to install a different version of ubuntu through apt-get or another way besides a CD?
[04:49] <suffer> i have 2 ext3 partitions (hda3 & hda4) that were mounted to /media/Media{1,2}, i changed the mount points, but nautilus still shows Media{1,2} but takes me to the correct dir. this affects all users. any ideas?
[04:49] <jt_a7x_3> Oh I see, i donwloaded 6.06 long term, i thought they both were 6.06. Alrighty thanks.
[04:49] <hdz> sorry
[04:49] <dublevista> ubotu: is that an automatic response or are you actually watching what people say?
[04:49] <kitche> bytecolor: it's due to flash
[04:49] <Warbo> bytecolor: The flash plugin and XMMS both hog the soundcard, so they will kick each other off it
[04:49] <kitche> dublevista: it's a switch
[04:49] <hdz> it's a bot, someone did a command and it responded
[04:49] <TheLance> damn
[04:49] <EnsignRedshirt> dublevista: I have only run it from the list of boot options.  When you reboot, you get to screen where you can choose your version of the kernel.  Usual memtest86 is one of the options there.
[04:50] <dublevista> cool
[04:50] <TheLance> i get a readonly file system message
[04:50] <EnsignRedshirt> *Usuallyt
[04:50] <EnsignRedshirt> *Usually
[04:50] <TheLance> i can't even write to it
[04:50] <kitche> TheLance: yes ntfs by default is readonly
[04:50] <TheLance> well its not NTFS
[04:50] <ShadowX> stratusfear: it wont show the card in the list
[04:50] <TheLance> its  Fat32
[04:50] <Warbo> bytecolor: Make sure XMMS is set to use ALSA (in Preferences) and maybe try out the latest Flash 9 plugin if it really annoys you (since that uses ALSA too)
[04:50] <Asc> darned alt-x
[04:50] <kitche> TheLance: well you need root powers or you need to use umask
[04:50] <Kanuha> how do I start the live cd with a different resolution?
[04:50] <cchanc1> ljl, can i allow you to javk in and set up fuse for me im too pised of right not to do shit. the dam thing isnt working for me maby you
[04:50] <dublevista> ensign:  that's greek to me.  i am newbee
[04:50] <cchanc1> jack*
[04:50] <hdz> has anyone installed using smp? i have dual xeon i was reading you need to recompile the kernel (possibly)
[04:51] <Asc> dublevista: that's a good question, because there's no one answer :\
[04:51] <manaf> hi, im trying to install my nvidia xgl from the synaptic package manager, i follow the steps, and everything, but when i restart i get an error saying that i dont have the right kernel or something, my current kernel is 2.6.17-10-386 can someone help me set it up please?
[04:51] <stratusfear> shadow what ubuntu do you got?
[04:51] <Asc> dublevista: At the download page, after, you select a server, click the 'other installation options'
[04:51] <ShadowX> the latest one
[04:51] <TheLance> so "umask chown ubuntu /media/mountpoint" kitche?
[04:51] <ShadowX> I just downloaded the image today
[04:51] <bytecolor> Warbo, I keep around 8 tabs open in Firefox, so every time I have to restart Firefox I have to reload the tabs (dont want to do it with the home page setting)
[04:51] <Warbo> hdz: For what it's worth both of my cores are working on my AMD laptop by default
[04:51] <kitche> hdz: you need smp to use a multi core system it will just act as one core system if you don't use smp
[04:51] <kitche> TheLance: no
[04:51] <Asc> dublevista: but make sure you've selected an http server instead of an ftp server, so you get triendly heml
[04:51] <bytecolor> so yea, it's annoying ;)
[04:51] <kitche> !permission|TheLance you want teh volume permission part
[04:51] <ubotu> TheLance you want teh volume permission part: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[04:52] <cchanc1> ljl, come on im serious
[04:52] <stratusfear> shadow you need to install the windows driver on ubuntu to get your card working
[04:52] <hdz> i never want through the install yet, i'm guessing it gives you the option to compile that into the kernel
[04:52] <juanchito2006> !mount
[04:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:52] <Squee> I'm trying to set up a bridge between my wireless and my wired connection (my other laptop has to be wired as i'm installing gentoo and the wireless doens't work yet)
[04:52] <ShadowX> and how do I get it?
[04:52] <Squee> how do i go about doing that
[04:52] <hdz> !gparted
[04:52] <dublevista> asc: do i have to type someone's nick everytime i enter a line of dialogue in these chats?
[04:52] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:52] <kitche> cchanc1: ljl is not on
[04:52] <hdz> heh
[04:52] <hdz> !qtparted
[04:52] <jt_a7x_3> I need some help on installing ubuntu two an external hardrive.
[04:52] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[04:52] <jt_a7x_3> ubuntu to*
[04:52] <cchanc1> Kitche, i trust you enough can you do it?
[04:53] <myr3N> where can i find drivers wich supports linux for my GFX card?
[04:53] <cchanc1> im deleting linux any way so
[04:53] <bulmer> jt_a7x_3: can your machine boot off of the external drive?
[04:53] <vladimir_> e aew
[04:53] <Asc> dublevista: no, but with xchat, it highlights the line and notifies them that you've addressed them, so it's easier to keep a coherent conversation.
[04:53] <kitche> cchanc1: no since I m not into the helping people with ssh anymore
[04:53] <jt_a7x_3> Well, I don't mean like that. I'm running through vmware
[04:53] <manaf> is there a channel for ubuntu and nvidia or something?
[04:53] <jt_a7x_3> Or would I have to go to vmware's channel for support like that?
[04:53] <TheLance> i'm still confused
[04:53] <andre_> how do i configure a web cam?
[04:53] <Asc> dublevista: you get used to it after a while.  Also you develop homicidal feelings towards people with hard-to-type names.
[04:53] <mabus> mabus: I've been googling
[04:53] <TheLance> darn it
[04:53] <EnsignRedshirt> dublevista: It's a good idea to use the complete nick.  I have gaim setup to make a sound when my nick is used, so I don't miss a message.
[04:53] <mabus> err
[04:54] <mabus> Flannel: I've been googling and found replications of the error, and nobody with a fix
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | cchanc1
[04:54] <ubotu> cchanc1: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:54] <myr3N> where can i find drivers wich supports linux for my GFX card?
[04:54] <hdz> has anyone, used a wireless usb device to connect to other non-wep-wap access points like i do in windows, while installing ubuntu does it pick it up like it would a LAN since i go through someone elses dhcp
[04:54] <stratusfear> shadow go to synaptic and install ndiswrapper and bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:54] <Squee> Does anyone here know how to bridge networks with 2 interfaces in linux?
[04:54] <kitche> myr3N: what video card
[04:54] <cchanc1> tonyyarusso, this thing is too frusterating for me to even care about that sorry
[04:54] <ShadowX> do I have to do that from the laptop?
[04:54] <stratusfear> yeah
[04:54] <myr3N> ATi Radeon x1650 Pro
[04:54] <manaf> hi, im trying to install my nvidia xgl from the synaptic package manager, i follow the steps, and everything, but when i restart i get an error saying that i dont have the right kernel or something, my current kernel is 2.6.17-10-386 can someone help me set it up, anyone? im kinda stuck here
[04:54] <ShadowX> what do I do after that?
[04:54] <mabus> hdz: nah, wireless nets don't work during the blue-screen-type installatino
[04:55] <dublevista> ensignRedshirts:  are you saying i have to type all this every time i return a comment to you?  that's a good idea with a sound alert.  i burned memtest86  on a separate CD and booted with it.
[04:55] <stratusfear> download the windows driver for your card
[04:55] <myr3N> kitche: ATi Radeon x1650 pro
[04:55] <ShadowX> through those programs or what?
[04:55] <EnsignRedshirt> dublevista: Does your chat program have tab-completion?  Try Ens<tab>
[04:55] <dublevista> EnsignRedShirts: are nicks case-sensitive?
[04:55] <kitche> myr3N: ok should be xorg-video-fglrx
[04:55] <mabus> dublevista: just press the first few letters of their name and then tab
[04:55] <myr3N> ?
[04:56] <kitche> !ati|myr3
[04:56] <ubotu> myr3: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:56] <Warbo> bytecolor: Here's Flash 9 (no Ubuntu package though) http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[04:56] <kitche> !ati|myr3N
[04:56] <ubotu> myr3N: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:56] <Asc> dublevista: it sometimes helps to copy the name: to clipboard so you don't have to type it every time
[04:56] <dublevista> EnsignRedshirt: oh yeah, that's a time saver.  thanks
[04:56] <cchanc1> is their a gui for editing NTFS partions on a X64 based os?
[04:56] <hdz> mabus: so what point do i get at to where i can configure that which is kinda automatic so i can download updates
[04:56] <EnsignRedshirt> dublevista: That worked.
[04:56] <stratusfear> shadow download the windows driver for your card and type in the propt ndiswrapper -i name.inf
[04:56] <EvanS> !ndiswrapper
[04:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:56] <Asc> mabus: Or do what mabus said.  I didn't know that....
[04:56] <hdz> nothing in that doc about usb wifi
[04:56] <Asc> mabus: that was supposed to be for dublevista
[04:56] <Kanuha> I put my PC in the family room and hooked it up to our big screen tv, only when I try to install ubuntu, it has the wrong resolution. How can I get it to start ubuntu with a different resolution without ubuntu running?
[04:56] <bytecolor> Warbo, looking...
[04:56] <dublevista> mabus: it didnt work for yours.  i am using colloquy
[04:56] <Cpudan80> Hello everyone
[04:57] <mabus> there are tons of "ma" starters here
[04:57] <mabus> type mab and then tab
[04:57] <Cpudan80> Anyone know why Ubuntu doesn't install in MS Virtual PC?
[04:57] <mabus> Cpudan80: I haven't gotten ANYTHING to install in a MSVPC
[04:57] <hdz> i was about to do that cpudan
[04:57] <Warbo> Cpudan80: I will refrain from mentioning any kind of conspiracy.....
[04:57] <dublevista> mabus: it worked that time.  mab-tab.  funny
[04:57] <cchanc1>  is their a gui for editing NTFS partions on a X64 based os?
[04:57] <Cpudan80> Other linux distros work
[04:57] <Cpudan80> SUSE worked
[04:57] <Cpudan80> SUSE 10
[04:58] <Squee> Cpudan80: because after microsoft bought the program, linux support has gone downhill in it
[04:58] <hdz> jrsup1 got virtual pc to work
[04:58] <mabus> cchanc1: a gui for editing partitions... you mean a file manager?
[04:58] <dublevista> mabus: are nicks case sensitive?
[04:58] <hdz> i think you gotta write everything from u to a virtual vhd file
[04:58] <mabus> dublevista: depends on your client
[04:58] <Cpudan80> It looks like it is having vid card issues
[04:58] <mitch_> kitche Ended up using that script. I guess I didn't learn much, but it worked. Thanks.
[04:58] <johnnytang24> so I installed ubuntu on an LVM, now it's impossible to upgrade the kernel?
[04:58] <Cpudan80> Can I do a non-gui install somehow?
[04:58] <Warbo> GParted edits partitions
[04:58] <Squee> cpudan: the soft lock issue right?
[04:58] <cchanc1> mabus, i need something i need to corect a corupt hal.dll file in the system
[04:58] <dublevista> mabus: is colloquy a good start?
[04:58] <Cpudan80> Squee: shift-lock ?
[04:58] <Warbo> Cpudan80: Alternate CD
[04:58] <Cpudan80> Warbo: I only have the one CD
[04:58] <mabus> Cpudan80: get the alternate cd, or alternatively (no pun intended) a server cd
[04:59] <Cpudan80> ha ok
[04:59] <hdz> cchanc1: put the winxp or win2000 cd in and run recovery
[04:59] <B3N> anybody know how to fix borderless windows with compiz/xgl with an ati graphics card? im new to this
[04:59] <Squee> Cpudan80: when I tried to install it, it gave me the error Soft lockup detected on CPU
[04:59] <cchanc1> AHHHHHHHH
[04:59] <mabus> Cpudan80: download the other one then, and make msvpc use the iso instead of burning a new cd
[04:59] <dublevista> EnsignRedshirt: can you help out with this memtest 86 thing?
[04:59] <hdz> squee: is your cpu overclocked or bus
[04:59] <mitch_> Now to conquer my spdif issue??
[04:59] <kitche> cchanc1: look up knoppix that's what some use to fix xp or other things I have my own xp livecd that I use
[04:59] <cchanc1> id ont got not dam restor disk, and the partion that restores got wiped by the instll of ubuntu
[04:59] <oljanx> any clue why wlan0 might disappear when I take my laptop off AC power?
[04:59] <Polygon89> Hello, i have a little by annoying problem. The "quit" button (the button that you press and it gives you a choice whether to log out, switch user, hibernate, etc) is malfunctioning, and whenever i press it , it just automatically logs me out. Is there any way to fix this?
[04:59] <ks1> does anyone have good links to a packaging guide for ubuntu besides the (not so great) packaging guide for ubuntu
[04:59] <Warbo> B3N: Try running "compiz --replace &" first, if not then make sure the "window decorator" plugin is turned on
[04:59] <mabus> cchanc1: yeah you're best off going with the windows solution, but if you had wanted to do this with a gui with linux you'd just use your regular file manager.. you'd just have to have the ntfs parition mounted with read/write
[05:00] <unperson> I need to compile a new alsa-driver for my sound chipset.  I know it uses either the snd-intel8x0 or snd-hda-intel module.  Can I compile alsa-driver with support for both?  I know there's a --with-cards= option for configure, but can I list two things there?  How should they be separated?
[05:00] <Squee> hdz: no, that is what happens when you try to install ubuntu on microsoft virtual pc
[05:00] <Flannel> B3N: #ubuntu-effects for XGL,et al support.
[05:00] <dublevista> ks1: what is a packaging guide?
[05:00] <hdz> it builds the vhd file image
[05:00] <cchanc1> I cant download knoppix, expecialy if its a cd
[05:00] <jt_a7x_3> Are there any video tutorials of Ubuntu?
[05:00] <ks1> dublevista, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[05:01] <unperson> Nevermind, I figured it out.
[05:01] <unperson> ...I think.
[05:01] <hdz> you put the cd in, capture d: and everything writes to a 10gig file in dev0
[05:01] <mitch_> Where is the best place to put Media Files on a new linux install?
[05:01] <Squee> Does anyone here know how to use brctl?  I've been trying to figure it out for over an hour to no prevail
[05:01] <ks1> i know how to package on slackware/arch/others but never really messed with debian based.
[05:01] <cchanc1> Is their no gui program that will allow me to access my ntfs partion?
[05:01] <Flannel> cchanc1: nautilus
[05:01] <Flannel> cchanc1: (that's the normal file browser)
[05:01] <hdz>          for packaging, yeah debians different then linux besides doing stuff manually
[05:01] <dublevista> while i am sitting here chatting, the memtest just went crazy all of a sudden (that's a different computer).  now there are hundreds of lines in a big red box scrolling and the errors lsit is abotu 150000 and rising.  what the heck is going on?
[05:02] <hectorcitop> hello
[05:02] <Squee> cchancl:  if you set your fstab to mount your ntfs partition, you can browse to it like any other folder
[05:02] <hdz> slackware rocks :)
[05:02] <Cpudan80> Guys - I am trying now in "safe graphics mode"
[05:02] <Cpudan80> I will report
[05:02] <ks1> hdz, yeah I want to create packages. I want to use tcl 8.5a4/tk 8.5a4 / for amsn
[05:02] <Squee> cpudan80: didn't work for me : /
[05:02] <Not-Mnf> Squee:  do u happen to know anything about nvidia driver installation
[05:02] <Squee> yea
[05:02] <Squee> what about it
[05:02] <ks1> and create a subversion based amsn package
[05:02] <Not-Mnf> can u help me out,
[05:02] <Cpudan80> maybe I will get lucky
[05:02] <hdz> any dependencies missing?
[05:02] <mitch_> cchancl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:02] <Not-Mnf> Squee:  im trying to install my nvidia xgl from the synaptic package manager, i follow the steps, and everything, but when i restart i get an error saying that i dont have the right kernel or something, my current kernel is 2.6.17-10-386 can someone help me set it up, anyone? im kinda stuck here
[05:02] <mitch_> Helped me a ton.
[05:03] <hdz> i dont know about this os, i've never installed it , i know slackware tho
[05:03] <Cpudan80> Squee: where did your install die?
[05:03] <TheLance> guys where is the xorg.conf file stored?
[05:03] <Cpudan80> Right after the progress bar goes accross?
[05:03] <TheLance> /etc/then what?
[05:03] <Squee> cpudan80: loading the kernel
[05:03] <hdz> what you trying to make it compliant with this new linux?
[05:03] <kitche> TheLance: /etc/X11/
[05:03] <ks1> hdz, i got plenty of scripts for slackware/archlinux. I've even built gnome before
[05:03] <Not-Mnf> TheLance:  X11
[05:03] <dublevista> why do some nicks and icons appear in the sidebar on colloquy?
[05:03] <TheLance> thank you
[05:03] <hdz> heh
[05:03] <hdz> X11 should be a different channel
[05:04] <cchanc1> I can mount the ntfs partion its editing that gets me. fuse doesnt like me for some reason and the 3g program is for 32 based systems
[05:04] <Squee> Not-Mnf - ahh i had that problem, see... ubutnu provides nvidia-glx-common.  So you have to remove that... but when you remove that it will try to remove linux-restricted-whatnot which contains drivers
[05:04] <hdz> anyone know wikki or ojnk.net
[05:04] <hdz> oidentd
[05:04] <stratusfear> shadow and then type ndiswrapper -l and ndiswrapper -m
[05:04] <Cpudan80> Squee: no - I get farther than that
[05:04] <ks1> cchanc1, http://givre.cabspace.com/ntfs-config/
[05:04] <mabus> Flannel: Can I just apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.17-10-server
[05:04] <Not-Mnf> Squee: so what should i do?
[05:04] <mabus> or is that a bad idea
[05:04] <Flannel> mabus: that'll remove your kernel
[05:04] <antiNeo> what is apt-index-watch? it's eating all of my resources
[05:04] <mabus> well how can I just tell it to stop trying?
[05:04] <Cpudan80> It looks like it's loading GNOME
[05:04] <stratusfear> shadow and then modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:04] <antiNeo> 100% cpu
[05:04] <Cpudan80> herrm
[05:05] <hdz> who was the one that had the dual cpu
[05:05] <Squee> Not-Mnf - try this:  sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common and in the disabled modules disable nvidia
[05:05] <ks1> antiNeo, there was a bug report for that. What version are you running?
[05:05] <bytecolor> Warbo thanks. I can switch between xmms and a flash vid now :)
[05:05] <antiNeo> ks1: latest, 6.10, kubuntu
[05:05] <Squee> Cpudan80: perhaps i had a bad iso then
[05:05] <antiNeo> and it seems apt-index-watch keeps opening and closing... so I can't really kill it
[05:06] <antiNeo> pissing me off
[05:06] <ks1> antiNeo, I would check launchpad and see if there is a bug report, if not file one
[05:06] <ploguidice> Could anyone here help me set up a GBA emulator?
[05:06] <hdz> it's got some dependency
[05:06] <Cpudan80> Squee: It looks like X11 is messed up
[05:06] <dublevista> what is a recommended irc client?
[05:06] <Cpudan80> on mine
[05:06] <Not-Mnf> Squee: does that install the dirvers? i want to install the nvidia glx drivers,
[05:06] <Mangix> got a question here
[05:06] <Cpudan80> can I back out of the graphical mode at all?
[05:06] <Mangix> where is the GRUB config file located?
[05:06] <Squee> Not-Mnf: you installed them manually correct?
[05:06] <Flannel> Cpudan80: ctrl-alt-f1
[05:06] <hdz> ircII
[05:06] <Flannel> mabus: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:06] <Mangix> got it
[05:06] <Not-Mnf> Squee: no actually i used synaptic package Manager
[05:07] <Squee> oh...
[05:07] <Cpudan80> Ouch!
[05:07] <Squee> well it sounds like you tried to install manually
[05:07] <Cpudan80> CTRL-ALT-F1
[05:07] <Cpudan80> That messed it up a lot
[05:07] <hdz> could i have avoided a lot of partitioning if i downloaded the alternative version with grub'
[05:07] <Squee> and now it is fighting over which version is  the nvidia module
[05:07] <Cpudan80> looks like a rainbow on the screen
[05:07] <dublevista> anyone know the best channel for ubuntu newbees?
[05:07] <Not-Mnf> Squee: i tried it manually b4,
[05:07] <Squee> yep
[05:07] <Cpudan80> That's what I get for installing Ubuntu on Virtual PC
[05:07] <suffer> ls
[05:07] <cchanc1> Is their an ntfs browser that already has all its dependancys in it? that way i can just get it done and get my baby back
[05:07] <bytecolor> RH still using lilo?
[05:07] <hdz> cpudan: did you use the virtual file .vhd
[05:08] <Not-Mnf> Squee: it didnt work. so i had to do it this way, is there a way to restore the old kernel and have the spm do it for me? through GUI?
[05:08] <bulmer> bytecolor: most distro have options to use which..
[05:08] <Tido> !ubotu
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[05:08] <bytecolor> bulmer, nod
[05:08] <Cpudan80> hdz: yeah - that's the only option
[05:08] <xixor> so, after failing to install ubuntu with the live cd, I've tried the alternative cd.  This time, when I go to do  text-based intstall, it just says loading daemons, syslogd and another one, and stays there and doesn't go anywhere
[05:08] <Cpudan80> Unless I want to share the space with my main HDD
[05:08] <Cpudan80> which I dont want to do
[05:08] <Squee> so here's what you do, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-common.  go to nvidia's site and download the same file you tried to install before.  type  "sh Nvidia(whateverthefilenameis) --help" and look for the command to uninstall nvidia.  Then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-common and see if that works
[05:08] <bytecolor> just dont hear much about lilo any more
[05:08] <Warbo> cchanc1: There is no such thing as an NTFS browser really. Filesystems like NTFS are handled by the kernel, and file managers (Konqueror, Nautilus, etc.) can then access anything the kernel can
[05:08] <hdz> installing it on vpc w/deamon tools running, that'll fck up everything, it detects a lot of drives off by 1, or 0 for that matter
[05:09] <Flannel> bytecolor: Ubuntu has options for either
[05:09] <johnnytang24> how did ubuntu get lilo to boot off an LVM?
[05:09] <Flannel> johnnytang24: I don't believe it does.
[05:09] <Not-Mnf> Squee:  ill try that, thanks alot bro
[05:09] <hdz> running it over shared NAT with vpc with the livecd would be better
[05:09] <kitche> bytecolor: well in reality lilo is getting out of date
[05:09] <Squee> Not-Mnf: no problem :)
[05:09] <mabus> Flannel: I don't see what you're pointing me there for.
[05:09] <cchanc1> Is their such thing as a boot up file manager, thats not an operating system but will allow the editing and manipulation of files?
[05:09] <johnnytang24> Flannel : my / partition is an LVM
[05:09] <Flannel> mabus: er, where did I point you?
[05:09] <cchanc1> i cant even start windows due to a hal error
[05:09] <hdz> grubs good
[05:09] <johnnytang24> and my /boot is in /
[05:10] <Flannel> johnnytang24: that's fine, as long as /boot isnt.  But you need to use grub
[05:10] <zbadone> how do you see frame rate when running glxgears?
[05:10] <mabus> Flannel: There are options there that will change the menu.lst generated by automagic... but the point is that it doesn't even get that far.. it doesn't generate a not-working kernel, it simply fails
[05:10] <Flannel> johnnytang24: that's... doable, but thousands of times more difficult.
[05:10] <phaedra> johnnytang24,  Normally, there is also a /boot partition too...
[05:10] <johnnytang24> well, the installer did it
[05:10] <kitche> zbadone: -printfps
[05:10] <zbadone> ty
[05:10] <bulmer> cchanc1: not many of use have 64bit system yet..so you're the pioneer
[05:10] <Flannel> johnnytang24: right, go back... make a separate partition, outside of LVM, and put /boot on it
[05:10] <johnnytang24> but now I can't upgrade the kernel
[05:10] <zbadone> I could not find that anywhere
[05:10] <hdz> just put windows cd in and do repair, hal.dll will copy over, if you cant go into recovery mode and copy the hal.dl_ from your win\? dir
[05:10] <zbadone> ty
[05:10] <Warbo> johnnytang24: Nothing is stopping you from moving /boot to a different partition if you need to. Just be sure to fiddle with your bootloader and fstab
[05:10] <cchanc1> oh great no support
[05:10] <Flannel> johnnytang24: er, you can't boot either, for that matter.
[05:10] <Not-Mnf> Squee: can i pm you?
[05:11] <Not-Mnf> cuz im getting a long message
[05:11] <hdz> cchance i keep taking to you
[05:11] <Not-Mnf> i dont wanna paste it here
[05:11] <johnnytang24> Flannel : I can boot fine, but I can't install a new kernel, cause lilo doesn't understand the LVM
[05:11] <hdz> WHOS GOT A DUAL XEON
[05:11] <Squee> Not-Mnf: sure
[05:11] <kitche> !caps
[05:11] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:12] <bulmer> johnnytang24: when you re-run lilo  do you get an error?
[05:12] <EvanS> hey, whenever i try to put in my password for the networking section it tells me that it's wrong, and everything else is fine
[05:12] <Flannel> johnnytang24: the fact that you can boot at all surprises me.
[05:12] <hdz> jesus christ
[05:12] <johnnytang24> bulmer : yeah
[05:12] <zbadone> is 1100 FPS in glxgears OK?
[05:12] <cchanc1>  /me goes and lifts weights to get the anger and frusteration out
[05:12] <kitche> zbadone: yes
[05:12] <hdz> i can lay out blasphemy but cant cuss
[05:12] <zbadone> the gears seem to spin slowly
[05:12] <Flannel> mabus: I sent you there when I thought you just needed kernel parameters, not that you had built your own rd
[05:12] <Squee> zbadone: glxgears is not a benchmark : /
[05:12] <johnnytang24> Flannel : yeah, me too.  I thought maybe lilo supported LVM now.  Apparently not
[05:12] <Warbo> hdz: If anyone here had one they would say. I, for one, do not want to see 930 "I haven't" messages
[05:12] <Flannel> cchanc1: 64bit is supported.  As long as you don't need anything proprietary that you can't use a chroot for
[05:12] <johnnytang24> bulmer : Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
[05:12] <zbadone> yes, I know that, but with my ti4200 they flew fast, now with my NV6200 they scrawl
[05:12] <mabus> Flannel: so you don't know how to make a package stop trying to install itself?
[05:13] <mabus> without removing my kernel?
[05:13] <Squee> zbadone: it is mearly a test if 3d is working.
[05:13] <hdz> i appricate your sarcasm warbo
[05:13] <Not-Mnf> Squee: check your pm bro
[05:13] <bulmer> johnnytang24: sorry cant help you dude..i have not toyed with LVM
[05:13] <EvanS> hey, whenever i try to put in my password for the networking section it tells me that it's wrong, and everything else is fine
[05:13] <zbadone> Squee: yes, I know, ti4200-64 meg, they flew, NV 6200 256M they crawl
[05:13] <Squee> Not-Mnf: dont have one
[05:13] <mindstate> !games
[05:13] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:13] <cchanc1> after i get this fixed i am makein a huge backup of my system, and never touching it
[05:13] <Flannel> mabus: that'd be a dpkg thing, not an apt-get thing
[05:13] <bulmer> EvanS: what networking sesssion ?
[05:13] <Not-Mnf> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:13] <Not-Mnf> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:13] <zbadone> just trying to figure out why?
[05:14] <Not-Mnf> wops sorry
[05:14] <bulmer> EvanS: what networking section rather?
[05:14] <EvanS> system>administration>networking
[05:14] <mabus> Not-Mnf: you have synaptic open
[05:14] <hdz> unlock?
[05:14] <Not-Mnf> wops
[05:14] <Asc> hdz: I think blasphemy's fine as long as you don't swear.  Don't quote me on it though.
[05:14] <hdz> thats odd
[05:14] <Music_Shuffle> Not-Mnf, or the software updater thing that runs in the system tray.
[05:14] <bulmer> Evans do you have a root password?
[05:14] <EvanS> i think so
[05:14] <Flannel> mabus: perhaps with 'hold'
[05:14] <mabus> Flannel: okay, well how do I get dpkg to stop trying to install it, then?
[05:14] <Not-Mnf> thanx
[05:14] <hdz> asc: i'm not, because you just contradicted yourself :)
[05:14] <mabus> hold?
[05:14] <zbadone> Squee: is there a benchmark tester for glx?
[05:14] <johnnytang24> great, I can't shrink my partition either
[05:14] <Cippy> whoa, active channel
[05:14] <cchanc1> OK im trying this one last time.
[05:14] <cchanc1> !fuse
[05:14] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:15] <Squee> zbadone: not sure... i'll look around though because i'm curious about that too
[05:15] <hdz> im just tryin to lay this out on my new dual cpu with the usb wireless workin
[05:15] <mabus> Flannel: command not found, couldn't find package hold
[05:15] <EvanS> i just did a clean install of drake since my wifi wouldn't work with edgy
[05:15] <zbadone> any command line switches for glxgear?
[05:15] <Dreamglider> i have an old harddisk here and the partition manager says there is no partiton on it, is there any way i can retreive data the partiton is gone ?
[05:15] <hdz> -i love all you guys supportin thi sh*t
[05:15] <Flannel> mabus: no no, it's a dpkg thing.  man dpkg for more info
[05:15] <EvanS> and now i want to get it working now
[05:15] <Cippy> hey guys, I'm having trouble booting off a Live CD, can someone help me?
[05:15] <Asc> hdz: For example, some people would consider using 'jesus' as an exclamation to be blasphemy, but most people don't consider it an expletive.
[05:16] <davidm_> A big hello to all you Linux people!
[05:16] <Squee> zbadone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11925
[05:16] <Dreamglider> Cippy,  what seems to be the problem ?
[05:16] <cchanc1> I get the error: Volume is dirty. Run chkdsk and try again, or use the --force option. Mount failed
[05:16] <cchanc1> How do i run chkdsk
[05:16] <Cippy> Dreamglider: there's a kernel panic every time i attempt to boot
[05:16] <priboy> ?
[05:16] <zbadone> Squee: thanks, will try to do it now
[05:17] <Squee> your welcome
[05:17] <Dreamglider> Cippy, did you check the cd for errors ?
[05:17] <johnnytang24> so I can't shrink the / partition.  I can't run lilo on an LVM.  I could make a boot cd that uses a ramdisk.  Any other ideas?
[05:17] <Cippy> it happened with 2 CDs I've tried
[05:17] <erisco> !p2p
[05:17] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:17] <Flannel> johnnytang24: you can shrink /
[05:17] <Cippy> both had images from different sources
[05:17] <cchanc1> Volume is dirty.
[05:17] <cchanc1> Run chkdsk and try again, or use the --force option.
[05:17] <cchanc1> Mount failed
[05:17] <cchanc1> how do i run chkdsk
[05:17] <Dreamglider> Cippy, did you check them with the option on the boot menu ?
[05:18] <Cippy> it kernel panics when i do that too
[05:18] <Dreamglider> Ok
[05:18] <sidlay> Can someone help me install ubuntu
[05:18] <Cippy> the exact message is this:
[05:18] <Cippy> [190.255565]  Invalid compressed format (err=2)
[05:18] <Cippy> [190.261940]  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0)
[05:18] <johnnytang24> If I could figure out how ubuntu got lilo to recognize an LVM, I'd be good, I think
[05:18] <Squee> sidlay: if you can ask more specific questions :P
[05:18] <Flannel> johnnytang24: just... install GRUB
[05:18] <Asc> hdz: Uh, just as a point of curiosity - are you using 64-bit ubuntu?  32-bit probably has better hardware support, and will still work with x86-64
[05:18] <Dreamglider> looks like somthing os wrong with the harddisk
[05:19] <Cippy> on my computer?
[05:19] <mabus> Flannel: I'm reading the docs but I still don't see how I change the flag on that package to hld
[05:19] <Kevin_1> ADULT FORUM , EXOTICS FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ...
[05:19] <Kevin_1> ADULT FORUM , EXOTICS FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ...
[05:19] <mabus> hold
[05:19] <Kevin_1> ADULT FORUM , EXOTICS FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ....
[05:19] <mabus> hld
[05:19] <sidlay> squee dcc
[05:19] <Hobbsee> got him.
[05:19] <mabus> swat!
[05:19] <GateWar> I love Hobbsee.
[05:19] <Dreamglider> Cippy, yea but that's just what i think it looks like, im not very keen when it comes to this linux thing
[05:19] <Hobbsee> GateWar: language, mate...
[05:19] <GateWar> its cool
[05:19] <Rotund> Can someone tell me when the freeze date is for Feisty?
[05:19] <GateWar> i understand
[05:19] <Squee> sidlay: ?
[05:20] <GateWar> I had a rush of blood.
[05:20] <Hobbsee> !schedule | Rotund
[05:20] <ubotu> Rotund: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[05:20] <erisco> how do you uninstall a deb package that you installed?
[05:20] <cablesm102> erisco, sudo aptitude remove PACKAGENAME
[05:20] <Cippy> Dreamglider: Currently that disk is running Windows 2000 perfectly fine; I've never had any problems with it.
[05:20] <erpo> Why is there a package for lirc-modules-source in ubuntu instead of a package that just installs precompiled modules?
[05:20] <Cippy> But I don't have another computer to test my disks on at the moment
[05:20] <erpo> Is it a political problem?
[05:20] <hdz> rm -rf /bin/laden
[05:21] <Jordan_U> erisco: sudo dpkg -r /path/to/.deb or double click it and then click remove
[05:21] <Rotund> Other question, is Feisty decent for day to day use?
[05:21] <sidlay> squee PM
[05:21] <Rotund> Thinks like X aren't broken right now, right?
[05:21] <Squee> Rotund: If you can deal with packages breaking yes
[05:21] <hdz> is this distribution similar to knoppix
[05:21] <Flannel> Rotund: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty questions.  But, doubt it.  It's Alpha
[05:21] <Shadowpillar> my edgy upgrade went flawlessly
[05:22] <Jordan_U> Rotund: If you don't mind the possibility of having to reformat at any given moment, maybe :)
[05:22] <Rotund> It's 6 days from freeze
[05:22] <hdz> feisty is out everywhere, what version is it??
[05:22] <momo> how wopuld i go about mounting a shared windows folder that has all my videos?
[05:22] <Squee> sidlay: I dont have any pm's...
[05:22] <Hobbsee> Rotund: no
[05:22] <sidlay> pm me
[05:22] <erisco> cablesm102, that worked fine, thanks :)
[05:22] <cablesm102> erisco, no prob
[05:22] <ShadowX> stratusfear, are you still here?
[05:22] <Squee> sidlay: I just did
[05:22] <Shadowpillar> wait what
[05:22] <sidlay> wierd
[05:22] <davidm_> I have a question. Why do my screensavers cut off halfway and only show at the top half of the screen.
[05:22] <Rotund> sorry, feature freeze
[05:22] <hdz> is fiesty above edgy?
[05:22] <Shadowpillar> Feisty is out?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> davidm_: install rss-glx
[05:22] <Hobbsee> Shadowpillar: no
[05:22] <hdz> yes
[05:22] <Hobbsee> hdz: yes
[05:23] <davidm_> Ok will give it a try.
[05:23] <hdz> it's on torrents everywhere
[05:23] <Hobbsee> Shadowpillar: teh final version isnt out
[05:23] <Squee> sidlay: just ask your questions in here, that way people can correct me
[05:23] <Hobbsee> hdz: herd 3 != final.  please dont spread misinformation.
[05:23] <hdz> i should've burned that instead of edgy
[05:23] <Shadowpillar> Hobbsee: when is fiesty due to be out?
[05:23] <hdz> it's not mis
[05:23] <sidlay> Squee: Im trying to figure out what i need to do to install ubuntu, im at the part where i need to decide what partition to use
[05:23] <hdz> it's information
[05:23] <Hobbsee> Shadowpillar: april
[05:24] <Squee> sidlay: you mean what filesystem?
[05:24] <ks1> herd 3 isnt final
[05:24] <hdz> never said it was
[05:24] <Hobbsee> hdz: it's *not* final, it's buggy.  it's a beta.
[05:24] <EvanS> !ndiswrapper
[05:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:24] <mabus> how do I set the hold flag on a package?
[05:24] <Rotund> Whoa, whoa.  Average person should probably NOT be using Feisty.
[05:25] <erpo> Can I pin the kernel?
[05:25] <erpo> I mean, if I pin the kernel, will it break anything?
[05:25] <xtknight> erpo: by pin, you mean pin it to a specific version?
[05:25] <hdz> i just know i saw feisty everywhere and it's supposed to be an early alpha above edgy
[05:25] <erpo> xtknight: Yes, exactly.
[05:26] <hdz> like the average person shouldn't use an alpha of an coming slackware back in 96?
[05:26] <xtknight> erpo: not unless one of the updates requires a new kernel.  generally it won't break anything.  but it is always recommended to use the kernel updates.  is there a reason why you want to pin it?
[05:26] <hdz> gimme a break
[05:26] <davidm_> I did a Linuxmint install and was fairly happy with it. But I would rather stay pure with Ubuntu I guess EasyUbuntu is just one step more than LM for an complete install...
[05:26] <Squee> Does anyone here know how to use brctl to create a bridge between my wireless network and the cat5 going from one of my laptop's to the other?
[05:27] <Hobbsee> hdz: you did hear that a recent update of feisty deleted ~?
[05:27] <Sumguy21`> n
[05:27] <hdz> you dont need a cat5 bridge
[05:27] <Squee> hdz: what do you mean
[05:27] <xtknight> Hobbsee: which update would that be?
[05:27] <hdz> i have feisty d/l'd
[05:27] <erpo> xtknight: Yes. I am now going through the manual (from source) installation of the second kernel module in two days because they're not in Edgy, and it's a huge pain. If my kernel gets updated, I will have to re-do all that work. So I want to pin the kernel.
[05:27] <Hobbsee> xtknight: for feisty.  i dont remember.  it was fixed though.
[05:28] <Sumguy21`> How do I access a camera memory card?  Do I need to install any software?
[05:28] <hdz> you dont need a bridge for your counterpart to work
[05:28] <jenia6230> hi, how can i make firefox to start x-chat when i search in PACKETNEWS.COM
[05:28] <jenia6230> ?
[05:28] <xtknight> i wonder how such a thing happens (like deleting the home dir)
[05:28] <Squee> my other laptop doesn't have wireless working.  My ubuntu one does.  I want to share the internet from this laptop, to the one sitting next to me through ethernet, or any other way that would work
[05:28] <hdz> that's a ridiculous quesiton
[05:28] <hdz> heh
[05:28] <ks1> jenia6230, that is possible BUT it wont copy the needed information to paste :P
[05:28] <mindstate> Sumguy21`, try digikam
[05:28] <xtknight> i mean dont get me wrong but that oughta be a rare programming error ;)
[05:28] <mindstate> Sumguy21`, sudo apt-get install digikam
[05:28] <cchanc1> !NTFS-3G
[05:28] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:28] <xtknight> oops i accidentally formatted the C drive...hehe
[05:29] <hdz> when this os is install'd
[05:29] <jenia6230> i dont care i just dont have all the network that i need in x-chat
[05:29] <hdz> you gotta sudo to apt-get everytime?
[05:29] <bulmer> Squee get yourself a hub/switch and configure your other computer to use your laptop as gateway to internet
[05:29] <hdz> what happened to su root
[05:29] <Falkon4860> What's the best way to get a recent version of emerald, and will I need anything else (besides xgl and compiz) to use this compiz theme: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=46860 ?
[05:29] <Hacim07> jenia6230:try the mozex extension
[05:29] <xtknight> erpo: i see.  personally i would just go through the trouble but i am a bit of a masochist
[05:29] <mabus> Hobbsee: do you know how to set the hold flag on a package with dpkg or dselect?
[05:30] <Squee> bulmer: that isn't an option right now... see... i'm poor ^_^.  I'd like to know how to use brctl anyway
[05:30] <hdz> these xeons are so hot, i can light a cigarette off it right now :P
[05:30] <xtknight> if you hold a flag with dpkg, update-manager wont listen though
[05:30] <xtknight> you have to do the Pin
[05:30] <Sumguy21`> ANy suggestions on how to access my MP3 player device?  Its a Creative Zen V, not an ipod
[05:30] <hdz> slackware runnin dual xeon 100%, windows 55%
[05:30] <manaf> it worked Squee thanks alot bro ;)
[05:30] <Hobbsee> mabus: man dpkg.  not offhand - you're looking at "set selections" though
[05:30] <bulmer> Squee: its time or money, hub/switch now adays are inexpensive, you dont need a huge cisco unit
[05:30] <Squee> manaf: no problem :D
[05:31] <Hobbsee> xtknight: actually, if you're holding it back with dpkg, it will, no matter how you update
[05:31] <Squee> bulmer: this is a temporary solution... like for a day until i can get gentoo set up on the other laptop
[05:31] <hdz> bulmer: i concur nigga
[05:31] <xtknight> Hobbsee: different from aptitude hold?
[05:31] <davidm_> I bought an Intel Express 510T Switch for $15 at a computer swap meet.
[05:31] <bulmer> Squee: also you cant just lash up two pc togerther without a null-cable or a hub
[05:31] <erpo> xtknight: Should I pin linux-generic? Or the package that contains the actual kernel image.
[05:31] <Falkon4860>  What's the best way to get a recent version of emerald, and will I need anything else (besides xgl and compiz) to use this compiz theme: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=46860 ?
[05:31] <Hobbsee> xtknight: yes.  apt wont listen to aptitude hold, iirc....may be differnent now
[05:31] <xtknight> erpo: linux-generic, the meta package, is what actually gets updated.  so pin linux-generic
[05:31] <Squee> bulmer... yes you can.  i've seen it done
[05:31] <Hobbsee> Falkon4860: ask in #beryl for beryl stuff
[05:32] <Falkon4860> why beryl?  Is there not one specifically for compiz?
[05:32] <jenia6230> mozex didnt work or just dont know how to use it
[05:32] <bulmer> Squee you need a null-cable as minimum, you follow?
[05:32] <xtknight> erpo: well it cant hurt to pin the other one too.  just in case it uses the same package nae (like 2.6.17-10) but theres like a small rev update or something.  just pin obth
[05:32] <hdz> approx how many gigs does install come to after all updates
[05:32] <xtknight> both*
[05:32] <Squee> bullmer: null-cable... no i have no idea what that is... is it a crossover?
[05:32] <BillHates> hello earthlings.
[05:33] <erpo> xtknight: Thanks.
[05:33] <Sumguy21`> Yo!  Anybody figure out if UBUNTU will allow me to use my MP3 Player?  Its a Creative Zen V
[05:33] <davidm_> I am not from Earth
[05:33] <hdz> null for cable is another word for crossover
[05:33] <Music_Shuffle> Sumguy21`, yes.
[05:33] <BillHates> are you from uranus?
[05:33] <bulmer> Squee yes thats the other name for it..
[05:33] <davidm_> Backwards planet with hatred all over
[05:33] <Squee> heh, ok i'll go grab one of those
[05:33] <hdz> utp
[05:34] <Sumguy21`> HOW my friend?  What program should I use?
[05:34] <Squee> most routers are smart enough to tell the difference and use whichever instead of using crossover... i was hoping the laptop would do the same
[05:34] <azahid> any one knows how to enable mp3 preview in gnome? i have mpg123 installed in my machine and preview setting is also correct in nautilus. what else i need to do?
[05:34] <pianoboy3333> It seems to me that sound juicer is ripping my cd's oober slow, like one per 15 minutes... does this seem irregular to anyone here?
[05:34] <Cippy> Help me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2098830#post2098830
[05:34] <jenia6230> how do i add notworks to xchat, where do i get their server data?
[05:35] <bulmer> Squee: most routers can't detect a crossover cable
[05:35] <andre_> does anybody know how to configure a webcam
[05:35] <xtknight> Cippy: youll probably get help quicker if you rephrase your question in this channel.  many wont bother to click links
[05:35] <jenia6230> never mind
[05:35] <Sumguy21`> RESPONSE?
[05:35] <bulmer> jenia6230: are you referring to like undernet, freenode, etc?
[05:35] <jenia6230> yep
[05:35] <Squee> bulmer: the 3 we have set up in our house do.  we dont use any crossover here
[05:35] <jenia6230> but never mind google helped me
[05:36] <bulmer> click on the server menu, there you would see the list
[05:36] <jenia6230> 10x anyway
[05:36] <hdz> um
[05:36] <bulmer> Squee: routers do not detect cross over cables
[05:36] <hdz> my crossovers are all set up manually, my router detects them
[05:36] <bulmer> if a TX is on a TX, you'd get an error
[05:37] <Jordan_U> Cippy: I would probably go with Xubuntu on that machine, and use the alternate CD also, did you check the CD integrity though?
[05:37] <yuk> anybody know how to config screen with resolution of 1024x512?
[05:37] <xtknight> yuk: add a modeline in xorg.conf
[05:37] <Cippy> Jordan_U: Do you mean the CD test that's in the menu?
[05:38] <bulmer> Squee can you elaborate on how your 3 computers are connected?
[05:38] <Jordan_U> Cippy: Yes.
[05:38] <davidm_> Night all, best of luck and thanks to the helpers!
[05:38] <yuk> xtknight: i use gtf to generate the modeline ,but it does not work
[05:38] <Cippy> Jordan_U: Yeah. I get a kernel panic when I do that too.
[05:38] <xtknight> yuk: crt or lcd?
[05:38] <Hatty> I think Juk just deleted all my music when it was supposed to organize it
[05:38] <yuk> lcd
[05:38] <garrettkajmowicz> Hi, everybody.  I'm trying to do what is probably my 20th Ubuntu installation.  Unfortunately, this time things aren't quite working.  I run the installer (server or desktop), and things break.  I'm running the server installer for 6.10 right now and it looks like it breakes after hardware detection.  When I use the available console, it looks like it can't see my hard drive (or DVD drive)
[05:39] <yuk> xtknight: gtf 1024 512 60
[05:39] <garrettkajmowicz> I have an ASUS AMD64 montherboard/dual core processor, with an NFORCE chipset.
[05:39] <xtknight> yuk: i'm assuming your lcd does not have 1024x512 in the edid.  so have you configured your graphics card to scale it to native for your lcd?  what does "does not work" mean?
[05:39] <Squee> bulmer: sure, we have a gateway connecting to my gig switch, from the gig switch to the wan port in my roomates router, and from the gigswitch into the wan port on my wireless router.  (i know switch != router but still no crossover cables are involved)
[05:39] <hdz> i
[05:39] <garrettkajmowicz> I can verify that that sata_nv is loaded, but I am unable to see any drives listed in /sys
[05:39] <drakkor> hey buntupeople,lol;
[05:40] <yuk> xtknight: the standard resolution is 1024x512, and in windows it's normal
[05:40] <xtknight> yuk: what's the model of the lcd?
[05:40] <Jordan_U> Cippy: have you tried booting with noapci?
[05:40] <bulmer> Squee i did not say you always need a crossover cable, only if you wanted a pc-to-pc directly
[05:40] <hdz> thats cause you got extensive routing, after complete network setup and dns crossover is fine
[05:40] <Sumguy21`> What programs can I use to add music to my Creative Zen??
[05:40] <Squee> ahh well ok
[05:40] <yuk> xtknight: a node book Fujitsu FMV 253L
[05:40] <garrettkajmowicz> My BIOS confirms that I have the DVD drive and the hard drive plugged in, but I am still unable to see the drives in order to install.
[05:41] <maxx18> when i try to 'reload' packages in synaptic, it keeps failing on the Translation-en_US... and as a result it takes AGES to reload... is there anything i can do about htis?
[05:41] <garrettkajmowicz> Thoughts?
[05:41] <Jordan_U> bulmer: Some PC's you don't need a crossover cable for
[05:41] <xtknight> yuk: just add it to the Modes list in xorg.conf:  "1280x1024" .. etc etc ... "1024x512".  then restart X, query available modes with `xrandr -q` and see if it appears.
[05:41] <sanddrag> how do I change the permissions on a folder owned by root?
[05:41] <Cippy> Jordan_U: How do I do that?
[05:41] <yuk> xtknight: thx
[05:41] <bulmer> Jordan_U: auto-detect tx and rx pairs? which nic card are those?
[05:41] <maxx18> sanddrag, i dont know how to do it from gnome... using the command line you could use chown i guess
[05:41] <sanddrag> how do I use that?
[05:42] <maxx18> open up a terminal
[05:42] <maxx18> sanddrag: then type sudo bash
[05:42] <maxx18> sanddrag: then cd to where the folder is... then chown <username> folder
[05:43] <maxx18> sanddrag: you could also use chmod i think
[05:43] <bulmer> Jordan_U: so you're telling me if I have a wrong cable(assuming its tx and rx are crisscrossed) it will just work pc-to-pc?
[05:43] <Jordan_U> bulmer: Does on my comp
[05:44] <bulmer> Jordan_U: and what you have it connected to? which nic card you have?
[05:44] <EvanS> fuck!!!
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | EvanS
[05:44] <ubotu> EvanS: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:44] <EvanS> i try to install a wireless driver using ndisgtk and nothing appears under installed windows drivers afterward :(
[05:45] <garrettkajmowicz> I can confirm that I can boot off of the DVD drive - I just can't see it when running the busybox shell.
[05:45] <Jordan_U> bulmer: I have it connected directly to another computer, how do I find the nic?
[05:45] <rjm1982> Evan, which wireless card?
[05:46] <EvanS> DWL-G650M
[05:46] <hdz> ifconfig
[05:46] <EvanS> and this worked last time i had drake
[05:46] <sanddrag> maxx18, I don't get it
[05:46] <EvanS> ffs
[05:46] <Shadowpillar> how do I make use of network-manager?
[05:46] <Squee> bulmer:  I just tried enabling the bridge: "sudo brctl addbr br0" "sudo brctl addif br0 eth0" <wired "sudo brctl addif br0 eth3" < wireless.  It would seem as soon as I add my wireless connection in the bridge my internet cuts out on this computer.  Any ideas?
[05:46] <bulmer> Jordan_U: try ifconfig -a
[05:47] <Jordan_U> Shadowpillar: Disable your wireless config in network-admin or in /etc/networking/interfaces
[05:47] <rjm1982> Evan, sorry, no info here from me on that card  :(
[05:47] <EvanS> :|
[05:47] <EvanS> thanks anyway i guess
[05:47] <rjm1982> Other than generic ndiswrapper advice...but im sure you've exhausted all of that
[05:48] <Jordan_U> bulmer: HWaddr 00:16:CB:8E:13:7C ?
[05:48] <Shadowpillar> Jordan_U: then what?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> Shadowpillar: there should be an applet in your gnome-panel
[05:49] <ahaller> hi. is there a backport or something with that i can install apache2.2.xx on dapper? (apache2.0 doesnt work with mod_neko)
[05:49] <Shadowpillar> Jordan_U: there isnt
[05:49] <Squee> shadowpillar: in a terminal run nm-applet
[05:49] <Shadowpillar> Squee: thanks
[05:49] <Squee> np
[05:50] <Shadowpillar> Squee: "no networking devices found"
[05:51] <Jordan_U> Shadowpillar: Can you post your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:51] <bulmer> Jordan_U: nope..
[05:51] <Jordan_U> *pastebin
[05:51] <Shadowpillar> Jordan_U: do I disable ath0 via that?
[05:51] <Squee> Shadowpiller: kill nm-applet and try this: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart then relaunch nm-applet (this will kill your internet connection temporarily)
[05:51] <Shadowpillar> alright
[05:52] <bulmer> Jordan_U: can recall the command to show you your nic brand andmodel
[05:52] <Squee> Does anyone in here know how to bridge connections with brctl?
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Shadowpillar: Yes, you need to comment out those lines by putting a # in front of them.
[05:52] <EvanS> FFS why the hell do i have this shitty os
[05:53] <Squee> EvanS: pardon?
[05:53] <EvanS> well, in total i've probably spent around 24 hours just trying to get working internet on this
[05:53] <Squee> well sorry to make you restate it again, but what is your problem with it
[05:54] <EvanS> and my wifi started working, then when i switched to edgy it stopped, so i just reinstalled drake
[05:54] <EvanS> i can't get my wifi working on my d-link g 650M
[05:54] <Squee> EvanS: broadcom?
[05:54] <usr13> I'm trying to get Ekiga to do video conferencing and it appears that the software is working ok, but not getting authentication with server.  So I'm thinking that I don't have necessary ports open.  How can I tell?
[05:54] <dimeo> evans: checked ubuntuforums.org for a tutorial or howto on your card?
[05:54] <EvanS> don't think so
[05:54] <EvanS> of course i have
[05:54] <EvanS> ffs
[05:55] <Squee> evans: ok, pull up a terminal and type "lspci | grep -i wireless" and post the result
[05:55] <dabaR> EvanS: be nice, he was checking, you would be amazed at how many people do not.
[05:55] <dimeo> ffs?  oooh take a pill
[05:55] <EvanS> now that i have ndiswrapper and ndisgtk installed
[05:55] <hdz>  ldpvi -vv |grep -i
[05:55] <EvanS> i try to select my driver and i click ok, and then nothing happens
[05:55] <EvanS> sorry dimeo that's probably a good idea though
[05:56] <EvanS> i mean to take a pill
[05:56] <Squee> EvanS: pull up a terminal and type "lspci | grep -i wireless" and post the result
[05:57] <dimeo> $ lspci | grep -i network   may also list something useful
[05:57] <EvanS> i got no results
[05:57] <Sumguy21`> What programs can I use to manage and add music on my Creative Zen!
[05:57] <dimeo> my dell wifi card comes up with that
[05:57] <shaneCO> so, I am trying to dual boot Linspire and Ubuntu on my hard disk.  So I have Linspire installed on one partition, and I tried to install Ubuntu on another.  Eventually I thought I had it, and I could boot into Ubuntu no problem, but then my Linspire wouldn't load.  It would show me the option to boot into it, but it wouldn't boot.  So then I put the Linspire install disk in and tried to fix that partition and now it just boots into Linspi
[05:57] <shaneCO> giving me the option
[05:57] <Squee> EvanS: try "lspci |grep -i ethernet"
[05:57] <mikeo1> yesterday was a great day, it was the day I switched over to ubuntu for good
[05:58] <Squee> mikeo1:  I would do that but I need my games.  But i'm very proud of you :D
[05:58] <sanddrag> I don't understand how to change the ownership of a folder from root to user
[05:58] <sanddrag> anyone help?
[05:58] <Jordan_U> shaneCO: From linspire try running: sudo update-grub
[05:58] <dimeo> rightclick properties.. permissions
[05:58] <EvanS> ethernet controller: atheros communications inc. : unknown device 0020 (rev 01)
[05:58] <rjm1982> Mikeo, good feeling, eh?
[05:58] <Squee> sanddrag: sudo chown username:groupname foldername (add a -r if you want all folders beneath it)
[05:58] <mikeo1> now if i could just get my ati hdtv wonder to work...
[05:59] <shaneCO> Jordan_U: ok thanks I will
[05:59] <n2diy_> sanddrag: that isn't a good idea, you aren't supposed to be owner of a folder owned by root.
[05:59] <Shadowpillar_> Squee: what should my /etc/network/interfaces file look like?
[05:59] <Squee> EvanS.  Do you have an ethernet connection right now for that computer?
[05:59] <dimeo> evans
[05:59] <sanddrag> it is the XAMPP share folder
[05:59] <mikeo1> not a big deal though cause i have another working tv card and the ati one never worked in windows anyway
[05:59] <sanddrag> I want to be able to save stuff to it
[05:59] <Squee> Shadowpillar: I honestly am not sure
[05:59] <EvanS> no