[00:00] <busbaby> kexman: are you saying you actually upgraded to 9.10?
[00:00] <amik> it's good to have it, in case I forget to upgrade!
[00:01] <kexman> YESS
[00:01] <kexman> and it got worse :)))
[00:01] <busbaby> ive tried 9.10 ... am back on 9.04 and wont be upgrading for awhile
[00:01] <kexman> busbaby: is bad to the bones :P haha
[00:01] <kexman> bad work kubunu ... wouldnt call this a major step ... just perhaps backwards :)
[00:01] <nicklas_> im at 9.10 and happy :-)
[00:02] <kexman> i am not
[00:02] <nicklas_> whats wrong with it?
[00:02] <yoga> I have 9.10 beta, I think.  Now 9.10 had been released, how do I upgrade to it?
[00:02] <amik> busbaby: I'll be waiting a bit longer too... not sure why, getting mixed vibes
[00:02] <busbaby> nicklas_: type top ... what's plamsa-desktop cpu %?
[00:03] <busbaby> anyways ... i wonder if there's a bug open for the updater icon issue
[00:03] <busbaby> i couldnt find anything
[00:03] <nicklas_> busbaby: 0
[00:03] <BluesKaj> yoga, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[00:03] <nicklas_> busbaby: now 1
[00:04] <nicklas_> not high
[00:04] <busbaby> when i installed 9.10 that was running at around 50% non stop ... just one of many stupid things i found
[00:04] <The_Journey> how can I turn off 3d acceleration? It's causing my system to freeze. Anyone help me?
[00:05] <amik> The_Journey: u mean desktop effects? can u get to system settings?
[00:05] <The_Journey> yea
[00:05] <The_Journey> amik, my system just starts freezing randomly, only the mouse work
[00:05] <nicklas_> my cpu is now at, cpu 0 0-10 % and cpu 0-10 %
[00:05] <nicklas_> so its all good
[00:06] <busbaby> The_Journey: System Setting --> Desktop --> Desktop Effects  uncheck "Enable desktop effects"
[00:06] <amik> The_Journey: look under desktop, effects, there's a top checkbox for enable/disable of effects
[00:06] <The_Journey> amik, it's already unchecked
[00:06] <The_Journey> but my system freezes randomly, could it be something else?
[00:06] <kexman> busbaby: do you know what should i do to increase 2d/3d performance for a built in intel 945gm card ?
[00:07] <busbaby> nicklas_: try this ... let the screensaver come on ... then move your mouse to turn it off, and then close *all* windows on desktop
[00:07] <busbaby> that's made plasma-desktop core for me
[00:07] <amik> The_Journey: it could be all sorts of things.... total freeze? completely dead? could also be bad memory, or other hardware, dunno
[00:07] <amik> The_Journey: what graphics driver u use?
[00:07] <The_Journey> amik, everythign would freeze except for the mouse
[00:07] <kavurt> yoga: you don't need to upgrade. when you install updates, it will be final release
[00:08] <nicklas_> busbaby: well, ive had no prblem tih it
[00:08] <yoga> kavurt: What do you mean by install updates, how?
[00:08] <The_Journey> amik, I dont know my graphics card, but I know it's integrated or something
[00:08] <busbaby> kexman: nope ... sorry man ... ive only played around with nvidia
[00:08] <BluesKaj> yoga, say yes
[00:08] <amik> The_Journey: in hardware manager, is anything selected?
[00:09] <kavurt> yoga: sometimes you have update notification on the panel. just install them
[00:09] <yoga> yes
[00:09] <The_Journey> amik, where do I get to that?
[00:09] <busbaby> ok, im out
[00:10] <amik> under system in the menu
[00:10] <kavurt> yoga:  do you usually install updates, when computer tells you there are updates?
[00:10] <yoga> kavurt: I see.
[00:11] <The_Journey> amik, I dont see it in System Settings->Advanced
[00:12] <amik> The_Journey: sorry, I meant in the main k-menu, not settings
[00:13] <kavurt> yoga: you can check if you have final release now or not. it's written in the /etc/lsb-release file
[00:13] <The_Journey> amik, ok I opened Hardware Drivers and it says no proprietary drivers in my system
[00:13] <Scunizi> yoga: lsb_release -a in terminal
[00:15] <amik> The_Journey: hmmm... not sure. maybe BluesKaj has an idea?
[00:16] <genii-around> cat /etc/issue
[00:16] <BluesKaj> yoga , uname -a
[00:17] <amik> sorry The_Journey, I gotta go... I hope someone here will be able to help u out :-/
[00:18] <FireCrotch> I have an nvidia graphics card, dual monitors, twinview enabled.  I have a dual monitor desktop background that I want to use as the background spanning both screens, but when I select the desktop background, it only displays on one screen.
[00:18] <FireCrotch> How can I have it on both screens, short of chopping it in half and setting each screen's background?
[00:44] <ncfi1013> anybody know of any media players that have ipod support in linux besides the obvious?
[00:55] <The_Journey> where can I find xorg.conf?
[00:55] <Frederick> folks after version upgrade I got no more nvidia drivers nor sound can I have a habd with nvidia and mostly alsa drivers?
[00:55] <genii-around> Create it, doesn't exist by default now
[00:56] <Frederick> what?
[00:56] <The_Journey> genii-around, create it in /etc/X11 ?
[00:56] <genii-around> The_Journey: Yes
[01:01] <Frederick> folks after upgrading ubuntu to current version I got no more sound
[01:12] <leigh_> i have a question on webcams, can anyone help?
[01:14] <leigh_> ?????
[01:19] <pepePlu> guys i just installed k9.10 and i can't play mp3 files
[01:21] <inspiron630> i get a black screen after i upgraded my laptop to 9.10
[01:27] <Frederick> folks my kubuntu  is broken I got no more nvidia drivers nor sound after upgrade
[01:43] <juli4n> dolphin cant read my cd audio can someone help me?
[01:44] <trampel> frequent fix recipes mention System->Administration but i don't have any "Administration" under "System" (karmic 9.10) is this surprising?
[01:47] <Maarten> trampel: they are probably fixes written when Kubuntu 8.10 was the latest client :P
[01:47] <morecrow> How do I get Kdewallet to automatically allow KNetworkManager to connect to my wireless connection? im weary of typing my password everytime
[01:47] <MsMaco> trampel: that sounds like a gnome menu
[01:47] <dwidmann> morecrow: well, you could set the password to a blank password
[01:48] <trampel> MsMaco: it's under the big K (for kubuntu) or rather... it isn't.
[01:48] <Maarten> morecrow: Use wicd instead of the connector that came with kubuntu by default. In it, the "connect automatically" actually works :)
[01:48] <morecrow> oooh, then would I just have to press enter, or would it automatically bypass like Windows user login?
[01:48] <morecrow> Maarten: sweet ill investigate that too!
[01:49] <Maarten> with wicd it connect as a system connection, ergo it is already connected before logon prompt shows
[01:49] <MsMaco> you want to not have to unlock your kdewallet/keyring?
[01:49] <AssociateX> amorok is not playing music for me.
[01:49] <trampel> so you-all see System->Administration under kubuntu 4.3.2/karmic?
[01:49] <MsMaco> trampel: no
[01:49] <MsMaco> trampel: that really sounds like the gnome menu bar
[01:49] <Maarten> trampel nope
[01:50] <MsMaco> trampel: what are you trying to find?
[01:50] <Maarten> ubuntu fixes don't always work in kubuntu..... but whatever you are trying to find should be awfully close :P
[01:51] <trampel> MsMaco: many ubuntu repairs reference "System->Administration"  i have a recently updated to karmic kubuntu box that doesn't seem to have an "Administration" under "System"
[01:51] <MsMaco> trampel: thats because theyre referring to ubuntu, not kubuntu
[01:51] <MsMaco> trampel: ubuntu uses gnome. it has a different menu structure than kubuntu, which uses kde
[01:51] <trampel> ok.  then it's not my box particularly.  that's all i wanted to know.   thank you!!
[01:51] <MsMaco> trampel: tell us what you're actually trying to find, and we'll tell you the equivalent program
[01:52] <trampel> hardware drivers actually
[01:52] <trampel> Jockey seems not to find any
[01:52] <MsMaco> oh...
[01:53] <MsMaco> did you run an update since installing?
[01:53] <trampel> all references that i can discover make mentino of System->Administration
[01:53] <trampel> an "update" via "apt-get update"?  yes
[01:53] <MsMaco> if theyre telling you to go to hardware drivers, theyre telling you to go to Applictions -> System -> Hardware Drivers in KDE
[01:53] <MsMaco> which is still just jockey
[01:54] <trampel> ok.  i've done my best in that regard then.  thank you!!
[01:54] <trampel> so jockey seems .... broken for me then
[01:55] <MsMaco> potentially
[01:55] <trampel> i'm quickly learning how different kubuntu is from ubuntu... i really had underestimated that
[01:56] <MsMaco> totally different interface
[01:56] <MsMaco> the command line stuff is still the same though
[01:57] <trampel> ok... here's a fun one then.  i've removed as much pulseaudio stuff as i think i dare ... so now i have sound again.  but some sneaky process keeps making ".pulse-audio" in my home directory.  any clues who that might be?
[01:57] <Maarten> a sneaky process!
[01:58] <trampel> there is nothing in /etc/rc2.d left that has to do with pulseaudio
[01:58] <tsimpson> it's probably the pulse library
[01:58] <trampel> the library itself? ...how can it run without any daemon?
[01:58] <tsimpson> something loads the library and it creates the dir
[01:58] <tsimpson> it doesn't have to use the library, just load it
[01:58] <Maarten> forgive my ignorance, but what is it that pulseaudio does?
[01:58] <trampel> yes... but.... what?  [rubs chin]
[01:58] <tsimpson> !pulse
[01:59] <tsimpson> yet another sound system
[01:59] <Maarten> ah
[01:59] <trampel> and when it's active -my- sound card isn't.
[02:00] <MsMaco> makes things that would be black magic (or impossible) to configure in alsa...possible and easy
[02:00] <tsimpson> well, it has a habit of locking out anything not using pulse
[02:00] <trampel> including (for me) mplayer, and xmms2
[02:00] <MsMaco> so jsut put everything through pulse
[02:00] <MsMaco> ?
[02:00] <tsimpson> what about apps that don't know about pulse, or don't want to use pulse...
[02:01] <tsimpson> in KDE we use Phonon, which is just thin wrapper around ALSA
[02:01] <MsMaco> the alsa plugin for pulse should make them route through it anyway
[02:01] <tsimpson> and won't stop any non-kde app from using sound
[02:01] <MsMaco> phonon has a pulseaudio backend
[02:01] <tsimpson> phonon is just an abstraction, it can use pretty much any sound system anyone wants to make it use
[02:02] <MsMaco> the way flash works is that it tries to output alsa, which is then caught and fed through pulseaudio's alsa compatibility api, so that it can be mixed with all the other apps on the system, instead of one of them locking the sound device
[02:02] <tsimpson> alsa won't lock
[02:02] <trampel> my impression is that pulseaudio works ~ok for those that have done a recent full rebuild... and ~crappy for those that have been doing system upgrades for the long run
[02:02] <MsMaco> sure it will
[02:02] <tsimpson> OSS will lock, which is why alsa was made
[02:02] <MsMaco> if you're not using plug:dmix, alsa gives exclusive locks
[02:02] <MsMaco> and umm... OSS has in-kernel mixing
[02:02] <tsimpson> the whole point of ALSA is that it won't lock a sound device
[02:03] <MsMaco> i remember having to enable plug:dmix to let mythtv talk to alsa at the same time as pulse was talking to it back before the alsa-to-pulse thing happened
[02:04] <tsimpson> pulse is the issue there, not alsa ;)
[02:04] <MsMaco> well i can tell you how to tell pulse to feed through dmix so that its not getting exclusive alsa access
[02:05] <MsMaco> ive got it written down somewhere
[02:05] <aaron424> my cm8738 sound card does not play sound in games or from the web browser or from songbird but it plays the kubuntu intro music. any help?
[02:06] <MsMaco> tsimpson: http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/04/mythtv-on-hardy.html thats how i got pulse going back then. not sure its still current, but *shrug*
[02:06] <trampel> well aaron424, i have to ask, are you running pulseaudio?
[02:07] <aaron424> i dont think so? how do you check
[02:07] <trampel> that's actually a good question, but i'd start with:  ps -ef | egrep pulse
[02:07] <pepePlu> guys anyone has 3000+ mp3 songs?
[02:08] <aaron424> aaron     2298  2279  0 21:07 pts/1    00:00:00 egrep --color=auto pulse
[02:08] <trampel> pepePlu: find . -name "*.mp3" | wc   -->  1589.   i'm not in that club yet
[02:08] <MsMaco> i dont think i have any mp3s
[02:08] <MsMaco> i only have oggs
[02:08] <trampel> aaron424: i'd say you're not running pulse.  but i'm only an "expert" on avoiding it (and i'm not even that)
[02:09] <pepePlu> i asked because amarok always stop at 97% while scanning my library
[02:09] <aaron424> okay so what now
[02:09] <aaron424> also, its defaulte kde/kubuntu settings
[02:09] <pepePlu> and it was the only thing that can play mp3s
[02:10] <pepePlu> i installed banshee and rhythmbox and nothing could play mp3
[02:10] <trampel> aaron424: what does: dpkg -l | grep libsd   ...look like?  any pulse, alsa, oss, esd ...?
[02:11] <trampel> aaron424: oh, and has your sound card ever worked for you before, and have you done a recent upgrade ...etc?
[02:11] <aaron424> ii  libsdl-image1.2                      1.2.7-1                                    image loading library for Simple DirectMedia
[02:11] <aaron424> ii  libsdl1.2debian                      1.2.13-4ubuntu4                            Simple DirectMedia Layer
[02:11] <aaron424> ii  libsdl1.2debian-alsa                 1.2.13-4ubuntu4                            Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA
[02:11] <aaron424> aaron@Aaron-Desktop:~$
[02:11] <FloodBotK1> aaron424: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:12] <aaron424> oops
[02:12] <trampel> aaron424: (you just got in over the floodbot ;) ) ... so you seem to have alsa.
[02:12] <aaron424> yes
[02:12] <aaron424> the sound works when i hit test from the multimedia settings
[02:13] <trampel> aaron424: your PCM channel on alsamixer is raised up a bit?
[02:13] <aaron424> but not in anything else
[02:13] <aaron424> its all the way up
[02:13] <trampel> hmm...
[02:15] <trampel> what does Computer -> System Settings -> Multi Media look like?
[02:17] <aaron424> pulseaudio, hda nvidia, nvidia hd some numbers
[02:17] <trampel> aha.... pulseaudio does linger there then
[02:18] <trampel> i do not know how to get rid of it there.  nor even if that's a good thing if one wants to go all alsa.  -sigh-
[02:19] <aaron424> perhaps sudo killall pulseaudio?
[02:19] <aaron424> nope no luck
[02:19] <trampel> i think you proved just here above that nothing pulseaudio is actually running on your box
[02:19] <trampel> do you have mplayer installed?
[02:20] <aaron424> ill check
[02:20] <aaron424> no, should i install it?
[02:21] <trampel> not unless you want it .... i was just curious what a "mplayer -ao alsa  some_film_file.avi" did
[02:22] <trampel> what specific audio application are you aiming for?  amarok  or ?
[02:32] <Frederick> Folks should I try to fix my issues with nvidia and alsa after upgrade to latest release or just format and reinstall?
[02:38] <Frederick> folks Im having issues with nvidia and alsa after last upgrade what can I do?
[02:38] <Frederick> I followed alsa and nvidia guide no luck
[02:46] <jepong> hello... anyone using a huawei E160 usb modem here? can't seem to make it work. :(
[02:46] <jepong> i'm using karmic. :D
[02:49] <genii-around> e330 or so?
[02:49] <neighborlee> hi there..I noticed your 'project timelord', and while you outline reasons you see for kubuntu not reaching its full potential, your not outlining specific things about whats not allowing it so I was wondering what, if any of the things mentioned on main page are severe problems and why ?
[02:52] <Kage_Jittai> neighborlee: you the same guy from #reilgion
[02:53] <neighborlee> Kage_Jittai: I know no such channel, sorry
[02:53] <neighborlee> but if you mean #religion, answer is still no ;)
[02:54] <Kage_Jittai> neighborlee: yes you are, you are the heartseed guy
[02:54] <Kage_Jittai> neighborlee: the person who wants to make a religion game
[02:54] <neighborlee> Kage_Jittai: that much is true yes...
[02:54] <Kage_Jittai> neighborlee: this is Shadowmil
[02:54] <neighborlee> Kage_Jittai: that much is untrue.
[02:54] <neighborlee> I barely remember you, sorry.
[02:55] <neighborlee> adventure rpg game,,not religion game,,
[02:55] <neighborlee> and btw..its not called religion anymore,,its: #neighbors
[02:55] <neighborlee> just fyi
[02:56] <neighborlee> but I came to ask about notification on main page,,any idea about that please ?
[03:03] <Maarten>  Hmmmm..... does anyone know whether there is a C-64 emulator in any of the repositories? Can't seem to find one.....
[03:05] <younas> hey all
[03:05] <younas> im experiencing problems with the sound in konqueror
[03:05] <younas> im new to ubuntu
[03:06] <younas> i have a dual boot system with windows and kubuntu 9.10
[03:06] <ebovine> younas: What kind of problems/
[03:06] <ebovine> ?
[03:06] <younas> when i open youtube in konqueror i get the video but no sound
[03:07] <ebovine> Turn up the PCM volume.
[03:07] <ebovine> By default it's all the way down.
[03:07] <younas> ok let me see if it works
[03:07] <Maarten> aha! VICE! of course!
[03:08] <younas> no this doesnt work
[03:08] <ebovine> Is it just the sound for youtube, or is all the sound broken?
[03:09] <joey_> I've got a question about Basket. Does anybody know if there's a way to import PDF or ppt/openoffice-impress presentations into Basket? I'm a student, and would very much like it if I could import my class notes into Basket then be able to type notes beside the slides
[03:09] <younas> well o stayed up a night two days back trying to configure the sound and flash in konqueror i dont remember what i did exactly but i got it to work somehow
[03:09] <younas> but when i lated rebooted the system
[03:09] <younas> i got the video but no sounds
[03:09] <younas> i get the same with vlc
[03:09] <younas> player
[03:10] <younas> although the dragon and amarok are working just fine without any problem
[03:11] <ebovine> Run amixer and post the results in pastebin somewhere so I can see all the levels.
[03:11] <younas> how do i run amixer?
[03:11] <ebovine> From a terminal window
[03:12] <younas> what command should i give it
[03:12] <ebovine> It's a shell command.
[03:12] <ebovine> Just "amixer"
[03:12] <joey_> does anybody here know much about BasKet?
[03:13] <younas> ok let me paste it a pm to you
[03:14] <ebovine> Ok
[03:18] <younas> ok ive  pasted it there
[03:18] <ebovine> younas: Yeah, everything looks Ok.  One thing I've noticed is that I have to have my sound up over a certain point before it kicks on.
[03:19] <younas> yeah?
[03:19] <ebovine> Also, depending on your hardware, you may need to turn up the volume on some other control that seems unrelated.  For instance, on my Dell Vostro 1700 I have to turn up the "Headphone" volume.
[03:20] <younas> well i have two sound cards installed
[03:20] <younas> ive disabled one ofthem
[03:20] <younas> im just  using a creative audigy
[03:21] <younas> other sound related appsa are working just fine
[03:21] <younas> could it be a conflict with pulse audio or something
[03:21] <younas> i remember reading something to that effect on a forum
[03:21] <ebovine> Most people I've heard about just removed pulseaudio
[03:21] <ebovine> I did.
[03:21] <younas> how do i remove pulse audio?
[03:23] <ebovine> sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[03:23] <younas> ok let me enter this and see
[03:23] <ebovine> you'll have to reboot after that.
[03:24] <younas> it says package pulseaudio is not installed and therefore not removed
[03:27] <ebovine> I've heard other people say they had to change their default audio driver to the alsa driver.
[03:27] <ebovine> I didn't.
[03:27] <younas> yeah?
[03:28] <younas> so what do you reckon could be the issue here
[03:28] <ebovine> Not sure.  You're farther than I had to go.  :)
[03:28] <younas> amarok works just fine and the same goes for dragon player. vlc was workign fine till i rebooted it after installing vlc related packages and plugins
[03:28] <ebovine> I'm not really a driver guy, I know just enough to fix the things I have that are broken.
[03:29] <younas> :) alright ! thank you for your assistance nevertheless
[03:29] <younas> any idea where i could turn for help?
[03:30] <ebovine> Have you checked your log files?
[03:30] <younas> nope
[03:30] <ebovine> See if anything is happening in dmesg
[03:30] <ebovine> Those are the two places I'd go next.  See if there are any errors showing up or maybe the card isn't loading right.
[03:31] <younas> ive opened the log viewer
[03:31] <younas> what do i do next?
[03:31] <younas> its the first time im using this feature
[03:31] <ebovine> I always do my log viewing from the command line.  :)
[03:31] <ebovine> tail -f /var/log/messages
[03:32] <ebovine> Then try and do the thing that's breaking and hope I see it pop up in the log.
[03:32] <younas> ok
[03:32] <ebovine> You may need to try restarting the audio sub-system while watching the messages log and see if it throws errors.
[03:33] <younas> i just entered the command it gave me a response that is greek to me
[03:34] <younas> shall i paste it?
[03:34] <ebovine> Sure
[03:34] <younas> also hod o i restart the audio sub-system while im at it?
[03:35] <younas> *how do
[03:36] <ebovine> I think "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" restarts sound.  You might want to google that though.
[03:37] <ebovine> The stuff you just pasted is the last 10 lines of your messages log (the default number of line from tail).  The -f switch told tail to keep running continuously and print any new data from that text file to the screen.
[03:37] <ebovine> That makes it a live view of the log.
[03:40] <younas> ok ive restarted the sound too
[03:41] <Frederick> folks how do I update to a new kernel?
[03:41] <younas> well ive pasted whatever that comes up
[03:42] <younas> what should be done next?
[03:42] <ebovine> Frederick: Is it telling you packages are blocked?
[03:42] <esk4y> i installed kubuntu-restricted-extras but K3b will not allow me to rip to mp3; what am I missing?
[03:43] <ebovine> younas:  Not sure.  You would probably have better luck in the channel during the daytime hours in the US.
[03:44] <younas> that would be night hours where i am
[03:44] <rosco_y> does anyone know how to hook up the alc888 audio codec in 9.10?
[03:44] <younas> alright ill check it out then
[03:44] <MsMaco> esk4y: liblame maybe?
[03:44] <ebovine> esk4y: Try "sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3"
[03:44] <younas> do you know anything about konquerors plugins and whether or not they could be the source of the problem?
[03:45] <rosco_y> ebovine: is that for setting up the audio codec?
[03:45] <rosco_y> MsMaco: what is liblame?
[03:45] <cjae> anyone know if there is seperate x screens code in karmic?
[03:45] <ebovine> younas: It isn't a konqueror issue.  Youtube won't play in FF either.  Most non-KDE audio sources will have issues.
[03:46] <MsMaco> rosco_y: a library needed to encode mp3
[03:46] <rosco_y> ty
[03:46] <MsMaco> rosco_y: look for it in the package manager
[03:46] <rosco_y> MsMaco: thank you, I'll try that
[03:46] <MsMaco> rosco_y: wasnt your issue alc888?
[03:46] <younas> ok
[03:47] <MsMaco> liblame was the answer to esk4y's mp3 question...
[03:47] <younas> ill installl firefox and see what happens
[03:47] <younas> i really wanted konquror to work
[03:47] <ebovine> Firefox won't help.
[03:47] <younas> you sure?
[03:47] <ebovine> Yup.
[03:47] <younas> id prefer using kde apps
[03:48] <younas> i like the whole concept of integrated usage but it can be frustrating configuring things i am aliento
[03:48] <younas> anyway
[03:48] <younas> thanks
[03:48] <MsMaco> try arora maybe?
[03:49] <MsMaco> its another qt browser, but it uses webkit for better rendering than konq
[03:49] <esk4y> ebovine: i've searched and attempted to install libk3b2-mp3 but it doens't appear in the repos.
[03:49] <vitamin-carrot> hello
[03:49] <ebovine> esk4y: heh.  Yeah, that may have been old info.
[03:50] <esk4y> ebovine, MsMaco: I already had the liblame.. but on a hunch i tried the lame (frontend)... and it works now.
[03:50] <MsMaco> *shrug* ok
[03:50] <ebovine> esk4y.  Good to know.  I'll go do that now so I don't forget.
[03:50] <esk4y> funny... i would have figured that'd be in the restricted package.  I'm happy it works now.  :D
[03:51] <ebovine> Gah!  I still can't figure out why when apache2 starts at boot it doesn't read my config files, but if I reload or restart apache after boot it configures itself correctly.
[03:54] <younas> one more thing
[03:54] <younas> where can i access the settings for ayatana
[03:58] <rasstar>  is there any way to get the fonts in ubuntu looking like windows 7
[03:58] <JJman6> when should  i use apt-get clean or autoclean?
[04:01] <MsMaco> JJman6: when you're running out of disk space and want to delete the old debs
[04:01] <tsimpson> JJman6: when you want to free up some space under /var/cache
[04:01] <MsMaco> clean gets rid of all of them. autoclean keeps the most recent versions
[04:01] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[04:02] <magical> ebovine, is there anything in your error.log?
[04:03] <JJman6> what if i removed say apache for example would autoclean help get rid of all the other things that were associated with apache
[04:03] <tsimpson> JJman6: you want autoremove
[04:03] <ebovine> magical: Nothing I can find.  Just the services starting normally.
[04:03] <tsimpson> that should remove all unneeded packages
[04:03] <JJman6> hmmm i did purge already
[04:04] <tsimpson> you can use "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove" to remove and purge any unused packages you have installed
[04:04] <ebovine> magical: The part that kills me is that simply doing "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" will restart it and load all the configs properly.
[04:05] <JBadger> How do I report a install bug on a package? (configuation failure).
[04:06] <tsimpson> JBadger: "ubuntu-bug <package name>"
[04:06] <magical> ebovine, weird :o
[04:06] <tsimpson> or at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[04:06] <ebovine> magical: Tell me about it.  :)
[04:07] <magical> ebovine, I can't think of any reason why it would load differently at boot though, unless some config files or something are on a partition that doesn't get mounted in time, but I guess they're not?
[04:07] <JBadger> Let me see if this item has been reported, I thought it would have been fixed in 9.10.  I think it was reported before
[04:07] <JBadger> so I did not bother
[04:07] <ebovine> magical: Nope, they're all on the same partition.
[04:07] <ebovine> I've checked file permissions, they're fine.
[04:09] <localnnuser__> hey my kde screensaver doesnt start...
[04:09] <localnnuser__> any this this problem??
[04:10] <ebovine> localnnuser__: Try unplugging any external peripherals.  I used to have a mouse that would send signals even when it was sitting still.
[04:10] <localnnuser__> i have nothing pluged in
[04:12] <vitamin-carrot> yay i just registered with the kubuntu forums
[04:12]  * vitamin-carrot does a little dance
[04:14] <localnnuser__> doesnt start! kdescreensaver doesnt start automatically, some suggestions??
[04:14] <JBadger> tsimpson: ohh reported, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fetchmail/+bug/336847.  added my comment
[04:15] <Delvien> How do i get this "facebook" widget working? doesnt seem to load anything or have a config
[04:15] <localnnuser__> i have no problem with it
[04:15] <JJman6> I can't get 9.10 to upgrade from 9.04  It fails to fetch the  last 4 packages i've tried it over and over!
[04:15] <Delvien> That tells me nothing :(
[04:16] <JJman6> not to mention it took me probably a good 10hrs to DL all the updated packages!
[04:16] <JJman6> over 1700
[04:16] <vitamin-carrot> jjman6: you may want to dl the ISO back up your personal files and do a fresh install
[04:16] <tsimpson> JBadger: if you want, you can generate a diff for the init script and attach that, and also set the bug to confirmed (as you have confirmed it exists)
[04:17] <JJman6> ick.  not an option right now
[04:17] <JJman6> If i can't upgrade then forget it
[04:17] <vitamin-carrot> i have had alot of ubuntu friends cry over the past couple of days due to upgrade isntead of install
[04:17] <JBadger> Hmm let me do that then, tsimpson
[04:17] <Maarten> facebook widget seems to work just fine here
[04:17] <ebovine> I did the upgrade, but there were enough problems with KDE 4.2 to 4.3 that I just went with a fresh install.
[04:18] <JJman6> I'm already running 4.3 on 9.04
[04:18] <ebovine> Not a lot of compelling reasons to upgrade then.
[04:18] <JJman6> i was really hoping that 9.1 would fix a lot of hte bugs/issues i've been having but from the sounds of it there's stilla  LOT of bugs in 9.10
[04:19] <vitamin-carrot> ya never know untill you try all options
[04:19] <ebovine> Yeah, 9.10 could be better.
[04:19] <JJman6> I'm having issues with gfx/rendering issues.  Compiz effects are a buggy
[04:19] <ebovine> At the rate they've been going I'm considering just staying one cycle behind.
[04:19] <JJman6> i had to turn compiz off because it was breaking  some things (like i couldn't play poker)
[04:20] <JJman6> Thats how i felt about 9.04  should have just stayed with 8.04  because it was more stable IMO
[04:21] <ebovine> I keep getting pulled into the new ones because of something silly, like Subversion 1.6 in 9.10.
[04:21] <ebovine> I had a ppa for svn 1.6 in 9.04
[04:21] <JJman6> yea that too.  and they finally updated mysql too i see in 9.1
[04:21] <JJman6> well and 9.04
[04:22] <ebovine> If I was smarter (and had two or three days to resolve driver issues) I'd load FreeBSD on here and be done.  :)
[04:22] <Maarten> but..... you are not smarter, so here you are. :P
[04:22] <ebovine> I have FreeBSD servers that have gone from 4.x to 8.x that I haven't even seen.
[04:22] <ebovine> Much less put a CD in.
[04:23] <JJman6> For once i wish they would just focus a release on making it more stable rather than adding new features
[04:23] <ebovine> Maarten: I also took up amateur boxing as a hobby, so there are lots of reasons to question my intelligence.
[04:23] <ebovine> When's the next LTS release?
[04:24] <Maarten> heh :)
[04:24] <ebovine> 10.04?  That one won't have anything new in it.  It'll be like getting Red Hat Enterprise.  All the packages will be at least a decade behind.
[04:24] <rosco_y> I want to install win7 (64 bits) in a virtual machine, can anyone tell me which virtual machine software I should install?
[04:24] <vitamin-carrot> rosco_y: try VM Ware
[04:25] <rosco_y> vitamin-carrot: is it free?
[04:25] <vitamin-carrot> i am not sure if virtual box has support for it yet
[04:25] <vitamin-carrot> yeah there is a free version of VM available
[04:25] <ebovine> I think VirtualBox is still 32 bit only.  Yes, VM has a free version.
[04:25] <rosco_y> vbox wasn't allowing me to install 64 bit oss
[04:25] <rosco_y> thank you
[04:26] <vitamin-carrot> come to think of it where can i find the free vm ware one?
[04:26] <JJman6> off of vmware.com website
[04:26] <ebovine> They also used to have a partner repository
[04:27] <dalton> how can i install my ati radeon graphics drivers on my acer asire 5100??
[04:27] <MsMaco> i thought it was parallels that was in partner
[04:28] <X9nLinuxL> I just fired up Kubuntu tonight for the first time in a year.  Installed Hardy on an old G4 and all welt well.  Where do I find the controls for adjusting the kmenu bar height and position.
[04:28] <rosco_y> Do I need to install both the vmware Server and the Client?
[04:28] <vitamin-carrot> i think its player thats free
[04:28] <vitamin-carrot> im looking for it now
[04:28] <xingxing> hi
[04:28] <ebovine> X9nLinuxL: Got it to work, huh?  IIRC that's in the kcontrol app
[04:28] <rosco_y> X9nLinuxL: did you try right-clicking the panel and "properties"?
[04:29] <dalton> how do i install my ato graphics on an acer laptop??
[04:29] <dalton> ati**
[04:29] <X9nLinuxL> Everything went nicely.
[04:29] <ebovine> VMWare is in the commercial repo, not the partner.  My bad.
[04:29] <X9nLinuxL> one button mouse, so no 'right click' available.
[04:29] <ebovine> Not sure if it's in the Karmic repo yet.
[04:29] <rosco_y> dalton: I notice ati has a new radeon driver, if that's what you're looking for
[04:30] <dalton> i need to know how to install it??
[04:30] <ebovine> dalton: Have you run the Hardware Drivers application to see if it's listed?
[04:31] <rosco_y> dalton: you download an 80 megabyte file, chmod +x and run the file (as root) and it pops open a dialog, eazy pizzi
[04:31] <dalton> yes sir/ma:am
[04:31] <dalton> ok ill try
[04:31] <rosco_y> yeah, good call--system device drivers might download it and install it for you
[04:31] <dalton> all that in terminal?
[04:31] <rosco_y> y
[04:32] <X9nLinuxL> ebovine: Where do I find kcontrol?
[04:32] <rosco_y> "/usr/bin/jockey-kde" might get things started for you
[04:32] <dalton> whats the command on how to downoad/install it?
[04:32] <JBadger> tsimpson: a bit more complex, I see now that the package installer did not replace the script.
[04:32] <rosco_y> erm...I went to ati's website and they prompt you for your hardware and lead you right to the downloads
[04:33] <rosco_y> It's like falling off a log
[04:33] <ebovine> X9nLinuxL: I always launched it from a terminal.  Kubuntu has some other UI for it.
[04:33] <rosco_y> but did you try the hardware drivers tool?
[04:33] <dalton> all that did was bring up the hardware driver list..
[04:33] <dalton> nothing is shown in there
[04:34] <rosco_y> what is the other virtual machine software besides vbox and vmware?
[04:34] <X9nLinuxL> ebovine: Not too swift on terminal as yet.  No clue how to do that.
[04:34] <tsimpson> JBadger: it should, it's part of the package
[04:34] <ebovine> X9nLinuxL: KMenu, something ( :) ), Konsole
[04:35] <ebovine> Then just type "kcontrol" and hit enter.  It will load the graphical UI for you.
[04:35] <dalton> guys how do i get my ati graphics card installed??? its not working
[04:35] <tsimpson> alt-f2 will bring up the launcher
[04:35] <ebovine> ^- or that
[04:35] <X9nLinuxL> ebovine: ok, will try that
[04:36] <tsimpson> it also searches as you type, like constant <tab> in a shell :)
[04:36] <vitamin-carrot> is there like a KDE equivilant to gnome do?
[04:36] <tsimpson> except it also searches descriptions of apps too
[04:36] <ebovine> Yeah, if you want to be a sissy.  ;)
[04:36] <tsimpson> vitamin-carrot: what is "gnome do"?
[04:36] <tsimpson> !info gnome-do
[04:37] <vitamin-carrot> a little quick launch thingy kinda like pressing alt f2 except its a bit more user friendly
[04:37] <tsimpson> looks like what alt-f2 is actually
[04:37] <vitamin-carrot> wow
[04:37] <tsimpson> alt-f2 will do most of those things, except with konqueror etc
[04:37] <rosco_y> dalton: try this http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[04:38] <JBadger> tsimpson: well let me look a bit more why
[04:38] <rosco_y> erm, maybe that's just for amd
[04:38] <rosco_y> scooze me
[04:38] <vitamin-carrot> thats KDE's standard launcher and it has more happiness than gnomes one?
[04:38]  * vitamin-carrot is oogling launcher
[04:39] <ebovine> Uh, who decided that the application launcher was the right place to put a button for the system monitor?
[04:39] <ebovine> How do you come to that decision?
[04:39] <tsimpson> looks like gnome-do was created around when the launcher (krunner) was released
[04:39] <vitamin-carrot> yeah im new to kubuntu
[04:39]  * tsimpson points ebovine to the KDE devs
[04:40] <vitamin-carrot> previously a ubuntu user
[04:40] <rosco_y> dalton: if you go the kde menu, applications/system/Hardware drivers, you might easily install the ati drivers
[04:40] <localnnuser__> any one knows how to let kde manager cpu cores??
[04:40] <rosco_y> weclome aboard vitamin-carrot
[04:40] <ebovine> vitamin-carrot: I used to use Gnome.  I tried to keep liking it.  I really did.  But the whole UI just started getting weird.
[04:40] <X9nLinuxL> ebovine: Well this sorta sucks, its not there where its supposed to be
[04:40] <dalton> rosco_y:  its not listed
[04:41] <rosco_y> dalton: what distro are you running?
[04:41] <vitamin-carrot> heh - yeah but I would also be keeping an eye on gnome for the next year or so ... apprarntly somehting big is coming
[04:41] <dalton> rosco_y:  its a laptop with an ati radeon graphics. is there a way to see if its allready insalled? and im runnin 9.10 karmic
[04:42] <rosco_y> ebovine: I agree...I found kde much more intuitive
[04:42] <X9nLinuxL> ebovine: Supposed to be in: Desktop: Panels... but that item isn't there in this version apparently
[04:43] <rosco_y> dalton: that is the pits...my (desktop) finds the ati hardware and suggests the radeon catalyst download and install by default
[04:43] <rosco_y> I'll bet five minutes in google with that problem might find answers
[04:43] <ebovine> X9nLinuxL: and you're looking in the real kcontrol application, not the kubuntu settings one that is found in the menu, right?
[04:44] <dalton> rosco_y:  im runnin a laptop..
[04:44] <dalton> rosco_y:  mine in integrated
[04:44] <rosco_y> dalton: y
[04:44] <dalton> rosco_y:  why what
[04:44] <rosco_y> dalton: mine is integrated too
[04:45] <rosco_y> dalton: sorry, I got lost
[04:45] <dalton> rosco_y:  well its not listed and are u runnin karmic?
[04:45] <rosco_y> dalton: y
[04:45] <dalton> rosco_y:  what all did u enable under software sources?
[04:46] <vitamin-carrot> brb
[04:46] <X9nLinuxL> ebovine: Ok, I'm stupid.  Found it!
[04:46] <X9nLinuxL> Thanis
[04:46] <X9nLinuxL> thanks
[04:46] <rosco_y> did you try going to the acer website to see if they have drivers
[04:47] <dalton> rosco_y:  no will i be able to install themfrom there?
[04:48] <ebovine> X9nLinuxL: n/p.  Glad to hear the ppc is still alive.  I have an old Mac mini I may try that on.
[04:48] <vitamin-carrot> its vmware server thats free according to the website
[04:48] <rosco_y> dalton: I think it would be worth a check
[04:48] <vitamin-carrot> oh i may have accidentally the entire irc
[04:48] <X9nLinuxL> ebovine: This one's a G4 tower, and it took it happy once I put the install on a clean CD.  No problems firing it up
[04:49] <ebovine> Cool
[04:49] <rosco_y> vitamin-carrot: thanks
[04:49] <X9nLinuxL> ebovine: Took longer to set all the details up than messing with the install
[04:50] <vitamin-carrot> question
[04:51] <ebovine> answer?
[04:52] <vitamin-carrot> the cool looking kubuntu logo on the site
[04:52] <vitamin-carrot> the sheild one
[04:53] <vitamin-carrot> is there a high def or icon version floating around?
[04:53] <vitamin-carrot> i want to replace my kickoff icon
[04:54] <ebovine> Most of their artwork is on kdelook.org
[04:54] <vitamin-carrot> brb
[04:58] <JJman6> does anyone use (open)ssl within a terminal?  I have annoying problems with it freezing up (becoming unresponsive) while connected and having to force the terminal window closed and reconnect in terminal!!
[05:00] <dalton> rosco_y what propiatery driver do you have installed?
[05:12] <jschall> hey i'm running a fullscreen application in wine at 800x600 and I want my resolution to change back to 1680x1050 when I alt-tab. Even better would be scaling the application to 1680x1050 so that my monitor doesn't have to change resolutions at all. Any way of doing either of those?
[05:22] <idyllic> hi, can anyone help me double check that Karmic Openoffice-KDE Word  status bar doesnot display any text? (like language, insert/overwrite mode)
[05:25] <vitamin-carrot> yay i just had my first skype vid chat on kubuntu
[05:25] <ebovine> vitamin-carrot: Unless the other party is naked I don't see the appeal.
[05:26] <idyllic> hi, can anyone help me double check that Karmic Openoffice-KDE Word  status bar doesnot display any text? (like language, insert/overwrite mode)
[05:26] <vitamin-carrot> ummmmmmmmmmm i dont think i would eve want to see my father naked
[05:26] <ebovine> Ouch.
[05:26] <ebovine> Good point.
[05:26] <vitamin-carrot> the vid quality was good but the feed from my side was poor
[05:27] <vitamin-carrot> laggy
[05:27] <ManOfMilk> what's a good KDE ftp client?
[05:31] <idyllic> hi, can anyone help me double check that Karmic Openoffice-KDE Word  status bar doesnot display any text? (like language, insert/overwrite mode)
[05:33] <ManOfMilk> idyllic,
[05:33] <ManOfMilk> mine works fine
[05:34] <idyllic> ManOfMilk: D: I can't see Langauge,  INS/OWR unless i righclick the status bar D:
[05:34] <idyllic> ManOfMilk: erm, I have ATI card btw
[05:44] <ScottTesterman> Hi all!  Anybody here with any grub-fu?
[06:15] <hagabaka> is anyone getting flickering lines since a recent update?
[06:20] <savisaar2> when i try to view shares in my local network, its says unable to find workgroups in local network. and possible some firewall enables or something...how can i view shares?
[06:20] <Tamagotono> Does anyone know of a PPA where I can get kdevelop3 to install in karmic?
[06:22] <RobbieThe1st> Tama: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ko/karmic/amd64/kde/kdevelop It looks like its in the Universe repository
[06:23] <savisaar2> how can i view shares in my local network?
[06:23] <Tamagotono> RobbieThe1st: Thanks!  That helps more than you can imagine...  :)
[06:23] <RobbieThe1st> NP
[06:54] <carmelita> Hello, can someone please tell me how to make kontact(kmail) to check my spelling? I have tried with no success, and all what I find in Google is too old.
[06:55] <carmelita> I'm using Kubuntu 9.10 and Kontact 2.2.0.
[06:55] <carmelita> kmail 1.12.2
[07:10] <faileas> I have a fairly large directory (with subdirectories) of files i got copied over to a remote drive - i'd like a way to quickly compare and get a list of files that are different from the original
[07:10] <faileas> i'm trying to use rsync, but its taking quite a while
[07:21] <thabang> Good day people
[07:22] <Maneithel> Hi !  Got a trouble starting KDE: "No write access to '/home/USER/.ICEauthority' KDE uable to start.  Then : Could not start ksmserver.  Check your installation.  Anybody has a hint ?
[07:24] <thabang> Just had a bout with my boss Cos He couldnt do Sh*t either on my KDE machine! lol
[07:24] <faileas> hmm
[07:24] <faileas> the first bit sounds like a permissions issue
[07:25] <faileas> thabang: what does he usually use?
[07:25] <thabang> Debian... tho @ the moment he's using Xp
[07:25] <thabang> He's a Debian user and he dislikes KDE
[07:26] <faileas> eh
[07:26] <faileas> thats plausible
[07:26] <faileas> though KDE is similar enough to windows not to be too hard
[07:27] <faileas> <- XP/kubuntu/windows 7 user ;p
[07:28] <faileas> though i've tried quite a few other distros, and DEs
[07:31] <Maneithel> found by myself.  must have changed ownership of delicates files by mistake  see ya
[07:38] <Maneithel> faileas: One last thing before I quit, I just can't figure out I could have changed ownership of that file while configuring KMail with the gui, no su !?
[07:39] <faileas> hmm
[07:40] <faileas> that shouldn't be possible
[07:40] <faileas> in theory
[07:40] <Maneithel> screen freezed, rebooted and the trouble happened
[07:40] <Maneithel> But it's solved now.  Thanks for the hint ;)
[07:41] <thabang> lol! Same here Faileas... Though I'm new to KDE... Been using Gnome all along
[07:42] <Maneithel> See ya !
[08:04] <adeus_> I'm trying to build kde, cmakekde for kdelibs fails on karmic becaus it's looking for phonon includes in the wrong place
[08:12] <Joker-jar> hi people )
[08:25] <Joker-jar> is anybody there?
[08:27] <Intel_Power> thug life!!
[08:31] <Joker-jar> is there anybody from Russia? )
[08:37] <bigbrovar>  Hi guys am wondering if there is a way to integrate google calendar with kde PIM
[08:41] <theball> hello
[08:42] <theball> i have a 3 indipendant hard drive configuration and kubunut see's my other to drives as a raid array and they are not, can anyone help me solve this?
[08:43] <costin> And I want a name player equalizer?
[08:43] <Intel_Power> ?
[08:44] <zeroc00l> Hi to all, I'm an happy Kubuntu/KDE4.3 user, after 5 years of GNOME
[08:44] <zeroc00l> thank you all for the freedom you gave me
[08:44] <TheKro> I upgraded to karmic on monday.  but now my sound isn't working (no sound on laptop or headphones)
[08:44] <zeroc00l> LOL
[08:45] <TheKro> is karmic still supposed to use pulseaudio?
[08:45] <Intel_Power> need name player whit equalizer? plzz
[08:46] <theball> TheKro, i had the same issue and had to add master front channel to mixer to solve my problem
[08:46] <TheKro> theball: there is a master channel on my mixer
[08:47] <Fleck> hey, where can i ask about HP printer problems in (k)ubuntu?
[08:47] <theball> well for me i had to add master front to get it to work, just an idea.
[08:48] <Intel_Power> need name player whit equalizer? plzz?
[08:49] <Fleck> audacios2
[08:50] <Fleck> sorry audacious2
[08:50] <Intel_Power> don,t have  equalizer
[08:51] <Fleck> it does have eq!
[08:52] <TheKro> theball: unfortunately, my mixer doesn't list "master front" as an option under configure channels
[08:52] <TheKro> Intel_Power: what do you mean by "name player"?
[08:53] <Intel_Power>  with the equalizer, to choose rock, etc.
[08:56] <Fleck> Intel_Power well you can with audacious, but you need to create custom eq settings or import from winamp etc...
[08:57] <Fleck> Intel_Power http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=204498 << here are some i guess ready to use eqs :)
[08:59] <Intel_Power> Fleck danke
[09:05] <bigbrovar> hi guys is it possible to integrate kde PIM with google calendar (I have been googling for this all morning it would be nice to know if its a fruitless search)
[09:10] <Fleck> http://pastebin.com/d1e162b01 << when i connect HP printer i get this error anyone?
[09:14] <noel> vnvnv
[09:17] <nikose> how can i use kde desktop
[09:17] <nikose> yes
[09:18] <nikose> when I logn x-windows by kde,the desktop only a vim
[09:19] <corigo> Got a GRUB 15 error after install and can't boot. advice is to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, but there is no such file in my boot/grub folder
[09:22] <ww> first come here
[09:24] <skar> hi, i just upgraded from hardy to jaunty and now xorg is taking 35-45% of a cpu core consistently and system feels slow and unresponsive. any idea on how to make x take less cpu?
[09:30] <eVias> hey guys
[09:31] <eVias> i'm using kubuntu 9.04 and am having a little sound issue
[09:31] <mmo|> What do I do if I have installed a newer package from a repository that I added to sources.list - but now I would like to return to the package version that is in kubuntus repository?
[09:31] <eVias> tells me my HDA intel... is not working, falling back to Pulse Audio
[09:31] <eVias> still i have no more sound :/
[09:31] <eVias> could someone give me a clue ?
[09:31] <eVias> i tried a reload of alsa, which wouldn't change anything
[09:33] <eVias> mmo|, i'm not sure this is possible, you will have to remove your package, and get a direct link to your .deb file
[09:33] <eVias> then you can install it using dpkg -i /path/to/debfile
[09:34] <mmo|> eVias: hm, the problem is if I try to remove the package (it is xulrunner 1.9.1) it wants to remove alot of other programs
[09:35] <Idhan> mmo|: just uninstall it, then comment you new lines in the source.list.. update the repositories and install again the old version
[09:35] <mmo|> Idhan: ok, but how do I prevent it from wanting to uninstall all the other stuff?
[09:36] <Idhan> you can also do "sudo aptitude install mypackagewhatever=6.0 (where 6.0 is the version I need)
[09:37] <duckx0r> i have a weird problem where it takes about 10-15 seconds to display the contents of my home folder. what could be causing that?
[09:37] <mmo|> Idhan: ok, will it then downgrade the version that is installed?
[09:37] <Idhan> mmo|: yes
[09:37] <Idhan> mmo|: it should..
[09:37] <mmo|> Idhan: ok, thaks a lot for your help. I will try
[09:37] <Idhan> mmo|: I did it once :p
[09:38] <eVias> i'm using kubuntu 9.04 and am having a little sound issue
[09:38] <eVias> tells me my HDA intel... is not working, falling back to Pulse Audio
[09:38] <eVias> still i have no more sound :/
[09:53] <corigo> So far Karmic is un-installable... every time I install I get a GRUB 15 error when I reboot
[09:59] <Idhan> corigo: why you dont try the alternative lilo
[10:02] <corigo> ldhan: how and why?
[10:09] <Idhan> corigo: first..are you installing kubutun with the alternate cd or live?
[10:11] <Albertone> salve
[10:11] <Albertone> whoami
[10:12] <Riddell> ** testers needed for 4.3.3 from staging  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu karmic main
[10:13] <llutz> Riddell: will there be a 4.3.3 for jaunty aswell?
[10:14] <Riddell> no, too old
[10:14] <llutz> ok
[10:23] <corigo> ldhan: Live
[10:24] <Hamza> Hi, i need some help installing intel Graphics driver on ubantu
[10:24] <Hamza> can anyone help me here?
[10:25] <Idhan> corigo: that could be the problem.. why you dont try the alternate cd?? is much better because you can control better the instalation process and also grub, as example I have to install it in the hd1 instead of hd0
[10:25] <kgeek> Hamza: with wt
[10:25] <Idhan> corigo: I don't think I can do that with the live cd
[10:25] <Hamza> Hi, i need some help installing intel Graphics driver on ubantu
[10:25] <Idhan> Hamza: ubantu?? or ubuntu?
[10:26] <kgeek> lolzz
[10:26] <Hamza> ubuntu * sorry my mistake
[10:26] <corigo> ldhan I'm intalling on sdd5 ...but it claims to have no problems in selecting that as the installtion source.
[10:26] <kgeek> Hamza: select recommended driver from hardware driver list
[10:26] <corigo> sorry I men destination
[10:26] <Hamza> there is no item in hardware list
[10:27] <Hamza> i traied many ways read from net but non worked
[10:27] <Idhan> corigo: how many hardisk do you have?
[10:27] <kgeek> Hamza: first do sudo apt-get install update
[10:27] <kgeek> Hamza: then gp to that hardware driver list
[10:27] <corigo> I don't know, 5 or 6
[10:27] <corigo> I forget
[10:28] <Hamza> then i found a way to add an item for higher resolution but it lead me to crash my ubuntu as it halts after login
[10:28] <Idhan> corigo: 5 or 6 partitions or harddisks??
[10:28] <Hamza> then i reinstalled it and now trying to update driver
[10:28] <corigo> hard disks, many more partitions
[10:29] <Idhan> corigo: jajaj ok.... so have have windows too, right?
[10:29] <corigo> I've got mirrored data drives, a windows hard disk, a Kubuntu hard disk, and a hard disk of music
[10:29] <Hamza> now i have downloaded a driver in a folder but dont know how to instll it
[10:30] <kgeek> Hamza: do  wat i mtelling you ..
[10:30] <kgeek> #sudo apt-get install update
[10:30] <Idhan> corigo: so...you have also kubuntu, and now you want ubuntu...
[10:30] <Idhan> corigo: where is windows??
[10:30] <kgeek> Hamza: then u'll able to find suitable driver ...which will be installed easily ..
[10:31] <Idhan> corigo: in you hdo??
[10:31] <corigo> separate hard drive... (for Windos
[10:31] <corigo> no hd0s all Sata drives
[10:31] <Idhan> so.. you have to install ubuntu with the grub ih thze hd0
[10:32] <Idhan> where is windows
[10:32] <Idhan> if windows is hd1 (second hard disk) then you have to install it there..
[10:32] <corigo> There is no reason to install on HD0 I use the BIOS to select the boot disk
[10:33] <Idhan> I had the same problem.. I solve it that way
[10:34] <Idhan> corigo: try then the alternate cd... you can see what is going on exactly..and there you can select lilo if grub is really the problem
[10:34] <Idhan> corigo: because currently ubuntu is release with a beta version of grub..
[10:34] <corigo> ugh
[10:39] <corigo> Where are the bloody md5's?
[10:41] <ramanK> Hi there
[10:41] <savisaar2> does anybody know how to fix a problem with DVD playback. Where while watching a dvd it suddenly stops with read error....
[10:41] <savisaar2> im using Xine
[10:42] <Idhan> savisaar2:  did you install the dvd codecs??
[10:43] <savisaar2> ummm...well whatever came with the dist...i am quite new to this os
[10:43] <ramanK> Does the new features come with Ubuntu 9.10 included in Kubuntu?(Such as HAL related changes)
[10:44] <Idhan> savisaar2: some codecs can not be include because are propetaries, the same as the windows codecs... but is no problem at all, take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[10:45] <ramanK> No one can answer my question?!
[10:45] <savisaar2> so after adding these codecs...it should work?
[10:46] <ramanK> Did the new features came with Ubuntu9.10 has included in Kubuntu ?
[10:47] <Mamarok> ramanK: the underlying structure of Linux is the same in both Gnome and KDE
[10:47] <ramanK> Thanks a lot
[10:49] <Idhan> savisaar2: it should... try it
[10:50] <savisaar2> i have the css one at latest version it says, so now i will get the other w32 package
[10:53] <Idhan> savisaar2: whit these two package (codecs) I can play any video on linux, I also use xine
[10:54] <savisaar2> alright, i hope it will work. ill post the results soon
[10:54] <Idhan> ;)
[11:02] <KjetilK> grrr, konqi crashed when reporting a bug :-(
[11:02] <KjetilK> can I configure apport-bug to use firefox?
[11:02] <MsMaco> it should use your default browser
[11:03] <KjetilK> oh, ok
[11:22] <Guest21233> how can i add remove applications in Application launcher ? i.e. I have a bash script and want to create e new entry to launch it. I'm using Kubuntu 9.10 Netbook Edition.
[11:29] <jazzy_d> heya everyone
[11:30] <jazzy_d> How to configure pulseaudio for 24bit 96khz on karmic koala
[11:30] <jazzy_d> ?
[11:39] <MelisU> Hello my networkmanager isn't reconnecting after I wakeup my netbook, 9,10 final
[11:39] <MelisU> it worked in beta and R
[11:39] <MelisU> C
[11:40] <MelisU> I have to manually click my wlan for it to connect
[11:40] <MelisU> other than that 9.10 is a good release. Congrats. Better than previous ones
[11:49] <eagles0513875> is it possible to get kubuntu installed to a usb hard drive? i tried it a while back but was having issues with grub
[11:51] <savisaar2> i am currently running Kubuntu on external HDD
[11:52] <eagles0513875> did you have problems getting grub installed to it
[11:52] <eagles0513875> and then when you boot how do you choose which partition lets say on a laptop between the laptop hdd and the external
[11:56] <savisaar2> grub worked fine without problems...i installed through the livecd and everything went easily from their very smoothly....however i an ubuntu livecd which booted into gnome...and then i installed kubuntu
[11:57] <savisaar2> just makesure you set your external hdd to boot first
[11:57] <savisaar2> and i installed grub onto the external
[11:59] <savisaar2> people with 9.10 is the dist working well?
[12:00] <ubuntistas> how can i do un upgrade to kubuntu to 4.3.3 version? i have 4.3.2
[12:01] <ubuntistas> how can i do un upgrade to kubuntu to 4.3.3 version? i have 4.3.2
[12:02] <llutz> ubuntistas: put this into your sources:"deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu karmic main" and update on own risk
[12:03] <esperegu_> how to stop kde to open documents on login that are not available? I keep getting errors from okular and each time I click ok but each login it wants to open them again and displays the same error.
[12:08] <ubuntistas> thx how can i install chromium browser on kde or google-earth?
[12:09] <ubuntistas> i just installed google-earth and it's not in applications
[12:23] <the_madman> ubuntistas: Should be added automatically. Sometimes it takes a minute or so.
[12:29] <memenode> How do I decompress multiple archives at once?
[12:30] <ubsafder> tar -xvf *
[12:30] <memenode> no way to do it in GUI?
[12:30] <memenode> like an alternative to ark?
[12:31] <ubsafder> dunno buhere comand line will be more efficient t
[12:32] <memenode> actually, right click extract on selected archives would be more efficient :P
[12:32] <memenode> but thanks :)
[12:45] <BluesKaj> 'morning
[12:46] <amik> hey BluesKaj
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hi amik
[12:49] <BluesKaj> quite dreary weather here , trees are bare, sky is grey, chilly temps...winter is just around the corner
[12:50]  * amik is reading karmic bashing on slashdot, and wonders how long to wait before attempting and upgrade...
[12:50] <BluesKaj> no lucid alpha for another month , guess i'll spend more time on the drums
[12:50] <Vroomfondle> Karmic's been fine for me, but the usual advice is to wait a month after an Ubuntu release
[12:51] <Vroomfondle> and it's pretty good advice, on the whole
[12:51] <BluesKaj> lucid alpha 1 , dec 10th
[12:52] <amik> that's the downside of having a 1-week RC, I guess. it discourages borderline-early-adopters from early-adopting, so less testers, etc.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> karmics evolution into lucid should be fairly smooth , except for PA and network management ..they're still buggy
[12:53] <amik> amik: a different thread mentioned win7 (1 year RC) had 1.9% market share, *before* it was released...
[12:54] <amik> amik: that would be enough to smooth out the rough edges...
[12:56] <BluesKaj> personally I think pulseaudio is some kind of linux political thing ...butting of heads between the old establish sound architecture (alsa) , that works well, and some devs fav project that needs a lot more work (pulseaudio)
[12:57] <DexterF> hi. upgrading to 9.10 just failed, complained about missing authenticity of some packages. what's that?
[13:03] <younas> hey all
[13:03] <younas> im experiencing problems with sounds in konqueror and vlc
[13:03] <younas> can anyone help?
[13:03] <younas> im new to kubuntu and have switched recently from windows to karmic koala
[13:06] <younas> hello?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> younas, open your software sources and make sure all your sources are checked , including other software, except the cdrom , then update , and install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:15] <chronos> morning guys
[13:19] <kaffeeringe> Hi!
[13:19] <kaffeeringe> May I ask a question?
[13:19] <amik> !hi | kaffeeringe
[13:20] <younas> blueskaj how do i open my software sources and ensure the sources are checked?
[13:20] <amik> BluesKaj: hmm... what's the bot thing for 'just ask away'?
[13:20] <Pici> !ask
[13:20] <kaffeeringe> Yes. I checked some pages discussing my problem
[13:20] <kaffeeringe> but most of them are pretty aged
[13:20] <kaffeeringe> and didn't help
[13:21] <amik> !ask | kaffeeringe
[13:21] <BluesKaj> younas, kmenu /system/software sources
[13:21] <kaffeeringe> For quite some time I had the phenomenon in Ubuntu 9.04 that instead of shutting down my computer I was just being logged out. now that I upgraded to 9.10 I also switched over to KDE and there are even the buttons missing for restart and shutdown
[13:22] <roKB> !<3 :D
[13:22] <kaffeeringe> 3?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> kaffeeringe, did you switch to kde during the upgrade ?
[13:22] <kaffeeringe> It's KDE4
[13:23] <roKB> kaffeeringe: did u installed kde on ubuntu while using 9.04?
[13:23] <amik> kaffeeringe: in the K-menu, there's a 'Leave' tab, with all the options u can ask for :-)
[13:24] <roKB> kafferinge: i also had this problem when installed kde in ubuntu through repository
[13:24] <kaffeeringe> Now iirc I installed Kubuntu 8.10 initially, installed Gnome additionally and used that because KDE4 was pretty experimental back then. I drop in on it ionce in a while and now with 9.10 I decided to give it another try
[13:24] <kaffeeringe> amik: I know that tab and that is where restart and shutdown are missing ;-)
[13:24] <roKB> kafferinge: so i downloaded kubuntu 9.10 for fresh install and now i have no problem
[13:25] <BluesKaj> kaffeeringe, install kubuntu-desktop
[13:25] <roKB> kafferinge: but i think you can't afford a fresh install .... do u ?
[13:25] <kaffeeringe> oh well, I don't really have to go the Microsoft way and reinstall, do I? :-D
[13:25] <younas> ive gone to menu/system settings/ but no software sources there
[13:25] <BluesKaj> younas, ok find kpackagekit , do the same
[13:26] <roKB> kafferinge: i think lots of people are saying karmic realease 'Canonical Vista' out there :-D
[13:26] <kaffeeringe> roKB: :-D
[13:27] <younas> ok im in the kpackagekut software sources ---should i go into the edit software sources button?
[13:27] <Frederick> folks how do I install the lastest kernel and update the entries on grub?
[13:27] <amik> kaffeeringe: do u have the kubuntu-desktop package installed?
[13:27] <roKB> amik: yes he have
[13:28] <BluesKaj> younas, yes , make sure everything except the cdrom source is checked
[13:28] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-desktop | kaffeeringe
[13:28] <roKB> Frederick: 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade'
[13:29] <younas> every thing under the kubuntu software option has been checked
[13:29] <younas> where it says other software there are two web links saying kubuntu karmic partner etc and a cd rom
[13:29] <younas> you want me to check those links too?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> younas, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:30] <zy> hi all, my konqueror has 403 forbidden error when doing a search in the address bar
[13:30] <zy> how do i solve this?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> younas, yes, but not the cdrom
[13:30] <Frederick> roKB: kernel not listed there
[13:30] <amik> kaffeeringe: did u try https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4357 ?
[13:30] <roKB> younas: visit http://www.futuredesktop.org     it has large article on how to make ubuntu usable
[13:31] <younas> ok i have checked those
[13:31] <younas> is there  a comand for the restricted packages?
[13:31] <younas> or should i look them on kpackage
[13:31] <amik> zy: I heard it's a known issue, r u all updated? (not sure if they released a fix)
[13:31] <younas> rokb thank you ill go through it later
[13:32] <zy> amik: I saw it reported in launchpad and marked as fixed, but my vanilla karmic still shows this prob
[13:32] <BluesKaj> younas, click on search and type in or copy and paste kubuntu-restricted-packages
[13:33] <amik> zy: try running an update, maybe they updated the relevant package
[13:33] <younas> i am not getting sound in some apps but i get perfect sound in amarok and dragon player
[13:33] <younas> ok
[13:33] <zy> amik: my os is fully patched =(
[13:34] <younas> ok i didnt et any results in the search after i copy pasted it
[13:35] <BluesKaj> also younas , install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:36] <younas> i have flash plugin
[13:36] <younas> non free
[13:36] <BluesKaj> younas, click on apply
[13:36] <jarle> After upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 my screen will not go to sleep even if I (still) have it enabled in the Display->Poer control settings. Anybody solved this?
[13:36] <jarle> Display -> Power Control...
[13:37] <amik> zy: other than restarting x (maybe updated ver. is not yet running) or waiting (if not yet released), I can't think of anything else to do...
[13:37] <younas> i already have it i mean i downloaded flashplugin non-free two days ago when i first opened konqueror and it requiested for a flash plugin. so i downloaded things at random that said flash and it finally worked for a day till i rebooted and after that
[13:37] <younas> no sound just video
[13:38] <BluesKaj> younas, have you updated since ?
[13:38] <janjiss> How to get Ubuntu One on Kubuntu?
[13:38] <Frederick> how do I isntall the lasted kerels in ubuntu?
[13:39] <roKB_> younas: why don't u just visit, http://www.futuredesktop.org        it has solutions for all your problems
[13:41] <roKB_> Frederick: sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6
[13:41] <MausP> hi. today I updated to Kubuntu Karmic. Now my Lotus Notes 8.5 can not open my browser (firefox) when I click a link.
[13:42] <MausP> when browser is already running than it works. but with closed browser it does not work :-(
[13:42] <BluesKaj> roKB_, that's a rather complicated tutorial page for newbies
[13:42] <MausP> in /opt/ibm/lotus/notes I replaced the file "openwith" with a symlink openwith->/usr/bin/kde-open
[13:43] <roKB_> BluesKaj: no its not, just copy and paste on command line
[13:43] <younas> no i dont think i have updated it since
[13:43] <younas> it just stoped working the moment i rebooted
[13:43] <BluesKaj> roKB_, easy for you to say , but ask a newb
[13:43] <younas> ok i will visit it
[13:43] <younas> yeah thaks blues
[13:44] <younas> its much more helpful if you know there is someone there to guide you incase you screw something up in the process
[13:44] <BluesKaj> younas, open the terminal/konsole and do : sudo aptitude update , the sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[13:44] <BluesKaj> the-then
[13:44] <zy> anybody knows how to get mouse side button working in konq? its works for rekonq so its not my xorg settings
[13:45] <roKB_> BluesKaj: i though that's what i typed before ..... :D
[13:46] <BluesKaj> roKB_, sometimes repetition is in order
[13:46] <roKB_> :D
[13:47] <roKB_> and you r telling me that newbies can't type on console            ;)
[13:47] <younas> are those two seperate commands
[13:47] <younas> hey i read the jaunty manual
[13:47] <younas> not all of it
[13:48] <BluesKaj> younas, yes
[13:48] <younas> just some parts and watched a youtube tutorial on gnome before making the switch
[13:48] <replman> hi! is it possible to see the header of a http-request through squid?
[13:49] <younas> ok its updating
[13:50] <Galvatron> Hi
[13:52] <younas> ok its updated
[13:52] <tom___> hi guys: short question: I am using blender in ubuntu and since the upgrade to 9.10 the "middlemouse drag" does not work anymore (and in two or three more programms its the same thing)...  I definitly know that this has something to do with kde, becuase under gnome and icewm it works just fine...
[13:53] <somekool> kubuntu 9.10 X crashed yesterday and today in similar ways
[13:53] <somekool> X just closes and respawn ...
[13:54] <Galvatron> After reinstalling 9.10 to migrate to ext4, an old issue with Compiz returned. I can't save its settings nor load my profile. I remember that it has something to do with access rights and so I made myself ("kuba") the owner of any Compiz-related folder I found but it didn't help. I know this access rights can be adjusted via terminal but I don't remember the commands.
[13:54] <younas> blueskaj its updated
[13:55] <Galvatron> My Kubu crashes too, e.g. after setting specified effects in Compiz
[13:55] <lovre> i would like to install 9.10 as a fresh install. And i would like to save some data, but not applications. My home folder is on a separate partition. Should i just format the os partition and install fresh, and can i remove everything from my home folder (the app config files, hidden) and only leave my data... Will i have any trouble with this?
[13:55] <roKB> i don't know why konqueror don't showing google ads on my blog ??
[13:56] <Galvatron> I mean specific not "specified" ;)
[13:56] <roKB> i don't know why konqueror don't showing google ads on my blog ??
[13:56] <Galvatron> Other browsers too?
[13:57] <roKB> lovre: i m exactly follows your strategy when i upgrade to new release           :D
[13:57] <BluesKaj> younas, do you have a pci sound card or is it an onboard ?
[13:57] <roKB> lovre: just restart computer through karmic cd in live cd mode
[13:58] <younas> i dont know the difference between the two. I have two sound cardes one is hda built in and another creative audigy. I use the latter although the first is installed but i had my friend disable it
[13:58] <roKB> lovre: then remove all the hidden or unhidden folders and files which you don't want to preserve
[13:58] <roKB> lovre: and after that u can install a new version on your machine :D
[14:00] <younas> blueskaj  dont know the difference between the two. I have two sound cardes one is hda built in and another creative audigy. I use the latter although the first is installed but i had my friend disable it
[14:01] <BluesKaj> younas, ok, so you have a separate pci soundcard..there is one thing you can try first. Open system settings/multimedia/ music to test your sound
[14:01] <Galvatron> somekool - May I ask details like your VGA, desktop environment, composition manager etc.?
[14:02] <younas> blueskaj, tested. it gave me a sound its working i suppose.
[14:02] <somekool> Galvatron: NVIDIA : Dell Lattitude D820 laptop
[14:03] <somekool> maybe I should disabled KDE desktop effects
[14:03] <BluesKaj> younas, what did you test , was it pulse audio or the listed sound card "audigy" ?
[14:03] <younas> audigy
[14:03] <BluesKaj> ok , now try pulseaudio
[14:03] <younas> pulse audio tested
[14:04] <younas> it gives me a music too
[14:04] <BluesKaj> younas, now try playing the media that had no sound
[14:04] <BluesKaj> previously
[14:05] <younas> youtube is playing but no sound i can refresh it
[14:05] <younas> or restart it and check hold on
[14:05] <Galvatron> Somekool: Do ypu use Kwin or Compiz(-Fusion)?
[14:06] <younas> blueskaj, vlc= no sound., youtube= no sound
[14:08] <kaffeeringe> re
[14:08] <sobi> hi ,have no sound in vlc too, the solution for me is delete directory .pulse in my home dir, then vlc sounds
[14:08] <BluesKaj> younas, open alsamixer in the terminal , make sure the ctrls are at 70% , and unmuted '00' in box at the bottom of the ctrl
[14:08] <kaffeeringe> I tried all the things you pointed me to and the things these linked discussion pointed to, but I still don't have a restart and a shutdown button in my kmenu tab
[14:09] <nomopofomo> had a question about swap files... i just created a new swap partition on another hd... do i need to worry about permissions to be able to start using it or can i just replace the UUID line currently in the fstab?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> younas, use the arrow keys to navigate
[14:09] <lovre> roKB: i just read what you wrote :) thanks, i thought that ough to do nicely... :)
[14:09] <BluesKaj> unmute by pressing the M key
[14:09] <younas> all of the controls?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> for now yes
[14:10] <lovre> is openoffice still not using kde libs?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> younas, make sure all the boxes have 00 in box at the bottom
[14:10] <younas> yes they all have 00
[14:11] <BluesKaj> levels at 70%-80% ?
[14:11] <younas> and the volume should be 70 of all of them? if yes then how to increase the volume
[14:11] <younas> ok i figured out how to increase and decrease vol
[14:11] <BluesKaj> younas, use the arrow keys
[14:11] <younas> should i  keep it between 70-80 for all the controls?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:12] <BluesKaj> too high will distort the sound
[14:13] <younas> ok done
[14:13] <BluesKaj> if it's too loud you can turn it down to your taste
[14:13] <younas> the mic beep as well
[14:13] <BluesKaj> that's your choice
[14:13] <etreus> I have some problem of package authentication when I try to upgrade my system kubuntu 9.04 to kubuntu 9.10
[14:13] <kartal> HERKESE SLM
[14:13] <younas> sure but they are all in between 70-80 now what do i do next?
[14:13] <kartal> HELLO
[14:14] <BluesKaj> younas, I'm not sure a reboot will work ,but it's worth a try
[14:14] <younas> ok will you be here later on i have to rush
[14:14] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:14] <younas> ill shut down the system and check upon my return
[14:14] <younas> ill back in 2 and half hours
[14:14] <younas> see you then
[14:14] <younas> thank you so much
[14:14] <BluesKaj> np
[14:16] <craig_> I have 9.10 installed and ati drivers installed but ati ccc (admin) gives this error Failed to execute child process "amdxdg-su" (No such file or directory)
[14:18] <lovre> roKB: you still there? Do you use KMail? How can i keep my mails and settings?
[14:20] <etreus> lovre: that file keep al informatio of mails setting --> ".kde/share/config/mailtransports"
[14:21] <etreus> and that file ".kde/share/config/emailidentities"
[14:23] <BluesKaj> lovre, how are you upgrading ?
[14:24] <lovre> BluesKaj: i was thinking i should do a fresh install, my home folder is on a separate partition. But i would not like to keep everything, just the data and stuff i choose. So i would manually delete stuff from ~/
[14:24] <BluesKaj> lovre, jaunty to karmic?
[14:26] <etreus> i have a problem to upgrade from jaunty to  karmic "kerneloops-daemon libpython2.6 python2.6 python2.6-dev python2.6-minimal update-manager-core
[14:26] <etreus> update-manager-kde" are not authenticated correctly
[14:27] <lovre> BluesKaj: yes
[14:27] <lovre> BluesKaj: why, is there a problem?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> lovre, I know some prefer the cli to gui upgrade apps , so the cli upgrade command that is supposed to be safe after updating to the latest in jaunty , is : do-release-update or use the update-manager gui , which is proven to be very safe to upgrade as well.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> lovre, personally I don't see the point of a clean install , unless there are other factors that require it
[14:29] <originalmguy> hello, I am having a problem with open office 3.1.1 spell check.can anyone help me?
[14:29] <originalmguy> Im a newbie
[14:31] <lovre> BluesKaj: wasnt it dist-upgrade before?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> lovre, sorry the cli command should be : do-release-upgrade
[14:32] <BluesKaj> yeah , but I was told it's deparacated
[14:32] <lovre> BluesKaj: the thing is, i messed about much with my machine, trying lo learn stuff, so im not really sure everything is in order. Thats why i would like to do a clean install...
[14:32] <Pici> dist-upgrade isn't for upgrading to a new release.
[14:32] <originalmguy> does anyone know how to make spell check work in OO 3.1? I have followed most support docs I can find
[14:32] <lovre> Pici: what for then?
[14:32] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[14:33] <lovre> Pici: hmm.. point well made.
[14:33] <lovre> clear
[14:33] <lovre> ups, lol ^
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Pici, makes sense
[14:34] <lovre> BluesKaj: so what about my settings and stuff, is it all in home folder etc
[14:35] <amik> Pici: wasn't dist-upgrade the recommended release upgrade mechanism? did they change what it does? or does the update-manager jus change the sources list first and then basically dist-upgrade?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> lovre, do you have a separate home partition ?
[14:35] <lovre> BluesKaj: yep
[14:35] <amik> Pici: (I meant, wasn't it recommended until a year ago or so...)
[14:35] <lovre> amik: thats what i thought
[14:35] <originalmguy> :'(
[14:36] <originalmguy> oh well
[14:36] <originalmguy> guess no one knows
[14:36] <BluesKaj> lovre , then just install using the manual partion option on /
[14:37] <lovre> BluesKaj: and i can manually remove any settings that i dont want to keep? is that ok
[14:38] <BluesKaj> lovre, dunno for sure , but I would think so
[14:38] <BluesKaj> yeah sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade used to be the standard command for upgrading to new version
[14:40] <amik> BluesKaj: so is the difference only changing the sources list automatically?
[14:40] <lovre> BluesKaj: ok thank you
[14:45] <lovre> can i run kubuntu live cd from usb stick? i dont have an empty cd atm
[14:47] <bbigras> lovre: you can use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to make a bootable usb stick. It can download the iso for you or you can specify your own. I always use that since my cd reader is broken
[14:47] <kids> What do I need to install to get quicktime to playback in firefox? I have w64codecs from medibuntu installed
[14:48] <lovre> bbigras: cool, thanx
[14:49] <amik> lovre: in karmic there's a usb disc creator in the menu...
[14:49] <bbigras> lovre: yw. be sure to get kubuntu 9.10. the unetbootin version from the ppa only offre 9.04
[14:49] <kids> I like kde but if I can not get apple movie trailers to play I am going back to gnome
[14:49] <bbigras> amik: do you need to boot the first?
[14:50] <bbigras> lol
[14:50] <BluesKaj> lovre, yeah , sources.list used to be automatically upgraded with those commands , but that's no longer the case.
[14:50] <lovre> BluesKaj: :)
[14:50] <salocin> Hey, i have eee pc 1000h and kubuntu nr 9.10. i am to stupid to open firefox whenever i click on it, he says that firefox allready is installed... can soemone help me?
[14:50] <Maui>  hi all, i upgraded to kubuntu 9.10 and it doesn't mount automatically cd & dvdrom. I must to do it in a shell. How to fix? in jaunty automount worked fine....
[14:50] <amik> bbigras: if u have karmic elsewhere...
[14:51] <salocin> yes i have karmik
[14:51] <bbigras> salocin: you are running the installer each time, check in the list Firefox should be there
[14:51] <kids> can you guys play apple movie trailers?
[14:51] <salocin> it runs
[14:51] <amik> lovre: or u can use usb-creator in previous k/ubuntus
[14:51] <markus__> moin
[14:51] <salocin> lunux is total new, for me, i look araound, thx
[14:52] <markus__> Everytime I move the mousepointer over a plasmoid the toolbar at the side comes up. Can I prevent that?
[14:52]  * amik suggests ubbotu learn about the 3 usb-creation methods, if it doesn't alreay... seen this question here many times in the past few days
[14:52] <bbigras> kids: I can't. there should be a plugin or something
[14:53] <kids> works on my gnome machine
[14:53] <bbigras> amik: thanks
[14:53] <EagleScreen> Maui: try to add cdrom to /etc/fstab
[14:54] <amik> bbigras: u know how to 'teach' it?
[14:54] <bbigras> amik: teach what?
[14:55] <Maui> EagleScreen: my fstab (line related to cdrom) -> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[14:55] <Maui> maybe is it wrong?
[14:55] <amik> bbigras: ubottu? or did I confuse ur answers with something else :-)
[14:55] <asdkjfaskdjfaksd> hi @ all ive got an question, its about the devicemanager in kubuntu 9.10, ill installed kb9.10 fresh from a cd and now the devicemanager cant mount my usb-flashstick and hdd automaticaly is this known?
[14:55] <salocin> is somwhere a german irc? i had a many questions but my englisch isnt very well...
[14:55] <Pici> !de | salocin
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Maui, no it's exactly the same as mine ...it should work
[14:56] <EagleScreen> Maui: just check if /dev/scd0 and /media/cdrom0 exist
[14:57] <BluesKaj>  /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0  ...is mine
[14:58] <Maui> EagleScreen: yes, scd0 is a link to sr0
[14:58] <bbigras> kids: if you're using firefox, maybe you could try mplayer-player, xine-plugin, mozilla-plugin-vlc or kaffeine-mozilla
[14:58] <salocin> bbigras where can i find the list? i only work whit de kde window (if it named so...) i see linux and kubuntu vor three houers the first time...
[14:59] <BluesKaj> salocin, Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[15:01] <Maui> consider that i can mount cdrom from shell (sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom) but it automount doesn't work! i mean, cd doesn't appear neither in notifier devices nor in dolphin
[15:03] <EagleScreen> anybody thinks if Maui issue may be a HAL deprecation related problem?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> EagleScreen, my fstab entry is exactly the same , but it could be a HW thing
[15:07] <Maui> hw? do u mean related to...disk? or to reader?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Maui, does this show your cdrom?  sudo lshw -C disk
[15:12] <Maui> BluesKaj: yes -> http://pastebin.com/m69c91c9b
[15:23] <nomopofomo> trying to figure out how to search one of my HDs in KDE, any clues? i'm guessing i have to index it first but no idea how
[15:25] <Knarkvador> salut
[15:37] <nomopofomo> having a problem with the search program in kde :(
[15:39] <pluma> I'm trying to add a custom keyboard layout variant to xkb, but it doesn't show up in the system manager (Kxkb?). The help file refers to paths that I don't have (the xkb files are in /usr/share/X11, not /etc/X11 except for xkb/base.xml which is not mentioned in the help file at all and seems to be linked to xkb/rules/xfree86.xml). Help?
[15:39] <camillia> can someone help me figure out why flash doesn't have any sound after i upgraded from jaunty?  video plays but no sound.  all other sounds work just fine
[15:39] <camillia> i've uninstalled flash and re-installed but it has not helped
[15:40] <davidjheinrich> hi all, I'm trying to update from FireFox 3.0.15 to FF 3.5.4 ... in the package manager program, why does it show several different versions of FF as packages that I can install (i.e., 3.0, 3.1, & 3.5)?
[15:42] <corium> hello
[15:43] <ken> there is no direct upgrade to ff3.5. you can run both if u choose.
[15:43] <davidjheinrich> what about bookmarks, plugins, other settings?
[15:44] <davidjheinrich> and why isn't there a direct upgrade?
[15:45] <ken> I don't know why it is set up that why. I have been using 3.5 since beforee it was inclluded in the release.
[15:46] <davidjheinrich> ken, what did you do about your plugins, bookmarks, settings, etc? is there a way to move them over?
[15:48] <bbigras> with jaunty, 3.5 and 3.0 have distinct profile directories
[15:50] <ken> All those exist in a place for all mozilla browers to use, not just one. If use download 3.5 plugins or extensions they will be only for it. 3 an 3.5 can both be on your box and that is what I would sugest at this time
[15:51] <davidjheinrich> ok, gotcha
[15:52] <davidjheinrich> but what is the deal with the new FF 3.5 -- I just installed it -- being called "Sheretoko"?
[15:53] <bbigras> davidjheinrich: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/161-FAQ-Why-is-my-firefox-3.5-still-called-Shiretoko.html
[15:54] <ken> if you use the ff installer in the menu u will get 3.5ff. sheretoko was the braanded release in 9.04
[15:54] <bbigras> do you mean 9.10?
[15:55] <davidjheinrich> ah, ok, I see. THat makes sense, to differentiate
[15:57] <JediMaster> Hey guys, I've been a long Ubuntu/gnome user, and used to use KDE many moons ago on debian, am I right in thinking that all I need to do is apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in karmic? Also, will that give me the session option to choose between gnome and kde on login in gdm?
[15:58] <Vroomfondle> yes and yes, though you'll probably find that gdm turns into kdm and your splash screen might change
[15:58] <JediMaster> not too bothered by it, I tend to hibernate so rarely see GDM =)
[15:58] <JediMaster> thanks Vroomfondle
[15:59] <JediMaster> heh ouch, 712MB extra
[15:59] <Vroomfondle> yeah, KDE's quite big ;)
[16:00] <pluma> I'm trying to add a custom keyboard layout variant to xkb, but it doesn't show up in the system manager (Kxkb?). The help file refers to paths that I don't have (the xkb files are in /usr/share/X11, not /etc/X11 except for xkb/base.xml which is not mentioned in the help file at all and seems to be linked to xkb/rules/xfree86.xml). Help?
[16:10] <pluma> To anybody else out there trying to get their custom keyboard layouts to be recognised: the file is called evdev.xml, xfree86.xml and xorg.xml do nothing.
[16:14] <greenmang0> hello friends... i upgraded 9.04 to 9.10.. but now i am not able to logout/restart/shutdown kubuntu from gui
[16:14] <greenmang0> what can be the solution
[16:14] <greenmang0> i use command line to shutdown system but that does not save my session
[16:15] <ken> greenmango,  I would first add lancelot to your panel  and see if that works ok.'
[16:16] <hagabaka> is there a ppa with drm-next or 2.6.32 kernel with KMS?
[16:20] <JediMaster> is there any advantage to kdm over gdm?
[16:21] <JediMaster> (installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu karmic)
[16:21] <Unksi> JediMaster: it uses kde libraries instead of gnome, so if you dont use gnome, kdm is better
[16:21] <lontra> JediMaster: not really ... kde artwork?
[16:22] <JediMaster> Unksi, I do use gnome, so hoping to switch between them, so I'll stick with gdm for the moment
[16:22] <lontra> JediMaster: that's what i would do
[16:22] <Unksi> JediMaster: then it doesnt make much difference for you which one you use :)
[16:23] <JediMaster> fair enough
[16:27] <greenmang0> ken: ok... let me try it
[16:29] <greenmang0> ken: nope... it's not working... i tried logging out from lancelot menu
[16:30] <greenmang0> ken: i even tried removing ~/.kde directory... but it didn't help either
[16:30] <greenmang0> can anybody here please help me solve this issue????
[16:30] <ken> greenmango--ok, did u upgrade or do a clean install
[16:31] <greenmang0> ken: upgrade
[16:32] <greenmang0> ken: i am doing upgrade since 8.10
[16:33] <ken> ok, i would go to synaptic an do a reinstall of the kde desktop . this may fix it. u have missing pkgs. before u reinstall it , highlight it and have synaptic check to see if it is broken.
[16:33] <ken> I upgraded first to 9.10 and it was a complete flop. had to do a clean install to fix most things.
[16:38] <antonio___> hola
[16:38] <antonio___> alguien de españa
[16:38] <Pici> !es | antonio___
[16:39] <greenmang0> ken: let me try
[16:39] <greenmang0> ken: there are no broken packages
[16:40] <ken> reinstall kde and reboot, see if tha fixes it.
[16:42] <greenmang0> ken: i just created a new user ... surprisingly it's working for her
[16:42] <greenmang0> ken: but not for me... :(
[16:43] <greenmang0> ken: that means' there has to be a way to fix it without reinstalling kde
[16:43] <greenmang0> ken: i don't have good bandwidth anyway...
[16:45] <ken> then just change your user to a new one with root privilages for now.
[16:46] <greenmang0> ken: i didn't understand you...
[16:47] <ken> u can not use your main account. just create a new user for u and give it admin and root privlages
[16:47] <greenmang0> ken: oh.. that i have done :)
[16:48] <greenmang0> ken: but i still want to use my old account... isn't it possible at all???
[16:48] <_nix_> Is it really quiet or I'm just not connected?
[16:49] <_nix_> oh.. lag, nvm.
[16:49] <ken> yes it is fixable but i don't know how to go about it in the terminal.
[16:49] <maredzek> hi, i have a problem with compilikng kdevelop what packages do i miss? http://pastebin.com/m540ad33b
[16:49] <greenmang0> _nix_: help me fix my issue :P
[16:49] <greenmang0> ken: ok...
[16:49] <a__> channel list
[16:50] <_nix_> greenmang0: what's up?
[16:50] <greenmang0> _nix_: not able to logout/shutdown/reboot from gui....
[16:50] <_nix_> greenmang0: looks like there is something in kde that is working for "her" and not you?
[16:51] <greenmang0> _nix_: yeah... hehe...
[16:52] <bbigras> maredzek: kdevplatform-dev
[16:52] <_nix_> greenmang0: if you don't mind losing your kde settings, you can log into a console and delete your ~/.kde directory and try again. that is like resetting kde for a user.
[16:52] <greenmang0> _nix_: i did it... didn't help :(
[16:52] <rosco_y> does anyone have a link that explains adding a commercial repo to synaptic?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> commercial repo?
[16:53] <rosco_y> BluesKaj: one second----I'll try to explain better
[16:53] <a__>  /list
[16:53] <_nix_> greenmang0: hmm, lemme poke around and see if i can find something.
[16:54] <greenmang0> _nix_: ok
[16:54] <rosco_y> Add the universe, multiverse and (important) commercial repositories
[16:54] <rosco_y> I'm following some instructions on setting up vmware
[16:54] <bbigras> maredzek: if kdevplatform-dev is not recent enough you may have to build it yourself. there's tools to help like kdesvn-build and a ruby one for people who want to code using git-svn. If you need help don't hesitate
[16:55] <rosco_y> I wish vbox supported 64 bits--no instructions necessary for vbox
[16:56] <rosco_y> so I'm editing /etc/apt/sources.list, but I don't know how to add commercial repositories
[16:56] <BluesKaj> rosco_y, they aren't commercial
[16:56] <rosco_y> darn phone
[16:57] <rosco_y> BluesKaj: I hear you, but I think there are commercial options
[16:57] <maredzek> bbigras - you are right
[16:57] <maredzek> i installed this package from repo
[16:57] <maredzek> but still there is an eroor
[16:58] <rosco_y> I think I need to add the commercial repo because the makers of vmware do sell some vmware software, but I just happen to want the freebies
[16:58] <_nix_> greenmang0: in System Settings > Advanced > Login Manager > Shutdown you can specify who is allowed to shutdown the computer. I'm not sure if that helps but its a starting point anyway.
[16:59] <rosco_y> so I'm adding: deb-src http://canonical.com/ubuntu karmic-commercial main
[16:59] <JediMaster> Hey guys, I've just installed kubuntu-desktop, I've got to say, I'm hugely impressed, it's been about 6 years since I last used KDE (probably when I moved from debian to ubuntu) and I've got to say it's hugely improved, and after just a few minutes I prefer it to gnome/ubuntu
[16:59] <rosco_y> does that look right?
[16:59] <_nix_> JediMaster: welcome back :)
[16:59] <rosco_y> JediMaster: the same thing happened to me.  The only thing I miss from gnome was that their panel spanned more than one monitor
[17:00] <JediMaster> thanks _nix_
[17:02] <JediMaster> brb, going to see what nvidia's twinview is like without xinerama
[17:04] <darkham> how can i change repositories servers?
[17:04] <darkham> please help
[17:06] <BluesKaj> darkham, the repos or the server that contains them/
[17:06] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:06] <rosco_y> Does anyone have a link to good instructions for setting up VMware?
[17:07] <darkham> BluesKaj, i want to do the same thing as system as system-----administration----software sources in ubuntu
[17:07] <darkham> i want set another server from repository
[17:08] <mandragor> Has anyone been able to make firefox open "telnet://"-links? If I click one I get the message "Firefox doesn't know hw to open this address, because the protocol (telnet) isn't associated with any program." and an "ok"-button
[17:08] <_nix_> darkham: you can achieve the same using KPackagekit
[17:08] <darkham> _nix: i've the same "software sources"
[17:08] <darkham> ?
[17:08] <eagles0513875> darkham: you do that in kpackagekit you can change the region to servers closer to you like local mirrors
[17:08] <BluesKaj> darkham, open your package manager
[17:08] <MBSTO> joo
[17:09] <darkham> BluesKaj, eagles0513875 i'm trying to help a friend with kubuntu, i'm in ubuntu
[17:09] <eagles0513875> darkham: concepts the same in either or
[17:09] <darkham> it's my problem :)
[17:09] <BluesKaj> darkham, choose software sources
[17:09] <eagles0513875> like BluesKaj said use the package manager to choose them
[17:10] <BluesKaj> darkham, which server is it using now ?
[17:10] <_nix_> darkham: K Menu > Applications > System > Software Management > Settings > Edit Sources .. like that
[17:11] <BluesKaj> _nix_, he's on ubuntu
[17:11] <darkham> BluesKaj, i'km on ubuntu, but the problem is on a friend in kubuntu karmic
[17:12] <darkham> _nix_, thanx, i tell him it
[17:12] <BluesKaj> ok tell him to open kpackagekit
[17:13] <eagles0513875> darkham: get him in here and we can wlk him through here
[17:13] <darkham> eagles0513875, he don't speak english...
[17:14] <darkham> :)
[17:14] <eagles0513875> what language does he speak darkham
[17:14] <eagles0513875> there is most likely a channel for people who use kubuntu in his language
[17:14] <zaythan> I've read the "things to do after you install ubuntu" is there a version for Kubunut
[17:14] <darkham> eagles0513875, italian, he is too in the italian channel but peoples don't help him
[17:14] <zaythan> kubuntu*
[17:14] <eagles0513875> zaythan: they are the same
[17:15] <eagles0513875> darkham: he has to be patient and wait
[17:16] <zaythan> Cool, so is Kubuntu going to stay on top of the KDE distros after openSUSE 11.2 comes out?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> darkham, is he using Italian sources , that would be his default
[17:16] <rosco_y> Does anyone know what to add to /etc/apt/sources.list to enable commercial repositories?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> rosco_y, they are not commercial repos !
[17:17] <darkham> BluesKaj, he have errors, and he can't end no operation
[17:17] <rosco_y> BluesKaj: sorry, I'm a newb...do you know what I'm trying to ask?
[17:17] <darkham> BluesKaj, dpkg --configure -a ?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> darkham, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:18] <darkham> BluesKaj, thanx
[17:18] <BluesKaj> darkham, then dpkg --configure -a
[17:18] <darkham> ok
[17:18] <rosco_y> BluesKaj: I'm following these instructions: http://blogs.sun.com/kkranz/entry/setting_up_vmware_on_ubuntu
[17:19] <rosco_y> right at the top: "Add the universe, multiverse and (important) commercial repositories "
[17:19] <BluesKaj> rosco_y, open the package manager and check all available repos including "other software" , except the cdrom
[17:20] <rosco_y> I tried "deb-src http://canonical.com/ubuntu karmic-commercial main", but it fails when I refresh
[17:20] <rosco_y> BluesKaj: thanks...I'll give that a whirl
[17:21] <BluesKaj> rosco_y, after adding repos you do a: sudo aptitude update in the konsole
[17:21] <BluesKaj> sudo aptitude update
[17:23] <rosco_y> BluesKaj: I'm not finding the "all available repos including "other software" option in synaptic
[17:23] <dkhfdkdfds> hi
[17:23] <rosco_y> hi dkhfdkdfds
[17:23] <rosco_y> that looks really hard to pronounce
[17:24] <_nix_> better now heh
[17:24] <digme1990> I cannot hear audio on flash movies (ie. youtube), anybody has the same problem with kubuntu 9.10?
[17:24] <rosco_y> digme1990: I'm having the same deal
[17:25] <digme1990> have you fixed it?
[17:25] <rosco_y> with the previous kubuntu, I was having the same problem:  my son told me to install some media package, and that worked
[17:25] <rosco_y> but I can't remember what it was
[17:26] <rosco_y> oh, maybe it was that volume control, the console-based one---what is that?
[17:26] <_nix_> alsamixer?
[17:26] <rosco_y> yes
[17:26] <_nix_> it comes preinstalled i guess
[17:27] <rosco_y> digme1990: do you have alsamixer installed?  That might help
[17:27] <digme1990> yes i am now on that
[17:27] <zaythan> digme1990: you may need to turn up the PCM volumn in your volumn control.
[17:27] <digme1990> i ran alsamixer on konsole
[17:27] <digme1990> ok ill try
[17:28] <digme1990> its now all way up
[17:28] <digme1990> omg now it works!
[17:28] <digme1990> hehehe
[17:28] <digme1990> thanks a lot
[17:28] <zaythan> np
[17:28] <BluesKaj> rosco_y, in synaptic , choose settings repositories
[17:28] <digme1990> i cant figure out why PCM was muted
[17:29] <zaythan> its been coming that way by default
[17:29] <zaythan> it gave me some trouble at teh beginning too
[17:29] <_nix_> lol
[17:29] <zaythan> felt like agoon when i figured out what happened
[17:29] <BluesKaj> settings / repositories
[17:29] <macken> Is there a way to separate a flash file? the file contains video and audio. I would like to take the audio out so it is in a separate file.
[17:30] <digme1990> I'm happy, now I can listen to my porn vids on xtube.com
[17:30] <digme1990> lol
[17:30] <_nix_> macken: mplayer -dumpaudio <file> works for me.. they're usually flv files
[17:31] <macken> ok i'll try that, thanks
[17:31] <BluesKaj> vlc plays mostly everything
[17:34] <BluesKaj> BBL ...stuff to do
[17:35] <rosco_y> BluesKaj: Thanks, I'll try that
[17:35] <rosco_y> digme1990: it's working for me now too :)
[17:35] <rosco_y> Now I can listen to my Dave Mathews :)
[17:35]  * rosco_y old school
[17:36] <digme1990> yes it works
[17:36] <deusr_> Hello, I upgraded from Kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and now it is showing the icon stating new updates
[17:37] <ahmedtaufiq> does kubuntu has any apllication that changes the ip frequently ?
[17:39] <kgeek> ahmedtaufiq: y u want that ?
[17:41] <digme1990> how can I change the text size in menus and titlebars? it is huge!
[17:42] <greenmang0> _nix_: i tried... "who's allowed to shutdown thing..." but didn't work... :(
[17:43] <MBSTO> m4v, lady, where are uuu??? T_T
[17:43] <deusr_> hi someone?
[17:43] <_nix_> greenmang0: what happens when you try to shutdown?
[17:45] <greenmang0> _nix_: nothing
[17:45] <_nix_> greenmang0: no message whatsoever?
[17:46] <ubsafder> did you try from the comand line "shutdown -h now"
[17:46] <greenmang0> _nix_: nope
[17:46] <greenmang0> ubsafder: that works... but that doesn't save session information
[17:47] <ubsafder> yes ok then you know it is now permissions
[17:47] <ubsafder> not
[17:48] <greenmang0> ubsafder: so what do you want to suggest??
[17:48] <ubsafder> i am looking what icon and command you can add to your desktop give me time
[17:49] <greenmang0> ubsafder: sure...
[17:49] <_nix_> greenmang0: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201569 check this link, i think you're having the same issues.
[17:50] <hershey> if you add the show desktop widget, then click on it, you go to black and have to log out, lol
[17:51] <_nix_> greenmang0: apparently its due to knotify hanging up when trying to play the logout sound ...
[17:51] <greenmang0> _nix_: then why does it work for new / fresh system user
[17:51] <greenmang0> ??
[17:53] <_nix_> greenmang0: hmm, i totally forgot that part. can you check if the two users belong to the same group? the command "groups" will give t.
[17:53] <_nix_> you a list*
[17:54] <JediMaster> omg *droool* I just love kde/kubuntu sooo much, it's been about 6 years since I last used it, and have been using windows or ubuntu/gnome, damn I'm happy I just installed kubuntu-desktop =)
[17:54] <_nix_> JediMaster: heh, enjoy the new experience :)
[17:54] <greenmang0> _nix_: i am a sudoer while new user is not...
[17:54] <JediMaster> I was only saying to someone yesterday that Ubuntu/gnome are just so far away from the gloss that windows 7 and Mac OSX have
[17:55] <greenmang0> _nix_: so i am a member of more groups while new user is just one
[17:56] <matthco> i'm confused
[17:56] <matthco> oh, hello
[17:56] <matthco> what have I done?
[17:57] <ni1s> Is there any way of getting Knetworkmanager to stop asking me for my password when I login?
[17:57] <dabayman> when i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 i got a plasma-decktoprc error at boot-up. Saying its "not writeable"
[17:57] <tsimpson> ni1s: that's kwallet, you can set the password for it to blank
[17:57] <_nix_> greenmang0: i don't know then. maybe "she" hexed your system heh.
[17:57] <JediMaster> KDE actually looks and feels nicer that windows 7 IMO, and I actually went out and bought it on the day of release
[17:58] <ni1s> tsimpson, awesome thanks
[17:58] <tsimpson> ni1s: open kwalletmanager, right click the wallet -> change password
[17:58] <tsimpson> then just leave it blank and confirm
[17:59] <dabayman> any suggestions?
[18:01] <greenmang0> _nix_: hehe
[18:01] <tsimpson> dabayman: sudo chown -R $(whoami): ~/.kde
[18:01] <tsimpson> dabayman: makes sure all files/dirs under ~/.kde are owned by you
[18:02] <dabayman> tsimpson: ok, ty. should i reboot now?
[18:02] <tsimpson> you should only need to logout and back in again
[18:03] <dabayman> true
[18:05] <dabayman> tsimpson: Thanks, worked!
[18:05] <tsimpson> no problem :)
[18:06] <_nix_> greenmang0: maybe you can try going to System Settings > Notifications > System Notifications > Player Settings and choose "No audio output"  and try to shutdown again.
[18:06] <_nix_> greenmang0: i'm only drawing this from that bug report :)
[18:07] <greenmang0> _nix_: let me try
[18:09] <kalp> my kubuntu 9.10 is crashing after resuming from suspend. is this a general problem with all?
[18:10] <greenmang0> _nix_: not working...
[18:14] <_nix_> greenmang0: are you able to shutdown from cli? does "shitdown -h now" work?
[18:14] <_nix_> greenmang0: ... make that "shutdown -h now"
[18:15] <deusr_> hello,  someone help me?
[18:17] <greenmang0> _nix_: yes... that is how i am able to shutdown my system last couple of days
[18:17] <jschall> how the hell do i set up a static ip address? no matter what i do, it always autoconnects to "auto eth0"
[18:18] <Riddell> KDE 4.3.3 out http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.3
[18:18] <bukalemun> hello all
[18:19] <_nix_> Riddell: thanks
[18:19] <greenmang0> jschall: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[18:20] <jschall> greenmang0: seems like the gui should have a way to do that, that's ridiculous that it doesn't...
[18:20] <_nix_> greenmang0: looks like a kde issue, there should be some clues in ~/.xsession-errors
[18:20] <greenmang0> jschall: i never tried it with gui... and i don't use network-manager as well
[18:20] <greenmang0> _nix_: ok...
[18:21] <_nix_> deusr_: hello, how do you do.
[18:21] <jschall> greenmang0: just seems like if kubuntu wants to be marketable to end-users, it might be nice to have a less back-asswards network config interface
[18:24] <greenmang0> jschall: maybe...
[18:24] <greenmang0> _nix_: thanks a lot
[18:24] <greenmang0> _nix_: you point me towards a write direction
[18:24] <greenmang0> i just checked ~/.xsession-errors
[18:25] <greenmang0> _nix_: it was skim which was causing problem.... i closed it.. and now i get all the options i want
[18:25] <deusr_> _nix_: I upgraded from Kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and now it is showing the icon stating new updates
[18:25] <greenmang0> _nix_: thanks.....
[18:26] <_nix_> greenmang0: congrats :)
[18:26] <greenmang0> oops... s/write/right :P
[18:26] <greenmang0> _nix_: :D
[18:27] <greenmang0> _nix_: that me she didn't hex into my system ;)
[18:27] <greenmang0> means*
[18:27] <_nix_> greenmang0: heh
[18:27] <greenmang0> _nix_: time to sleep now... bye..
[18:28] <_nix_> greenmang0: yah its late
[18:28] <kalp> my kubuntu 9.10 is crashing after resuming from suspend. is this a general problem with all?
[18:34] <deusr_>  I upgraded from Kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and now it is showing the icon stating new updates???
[18:37] <mime> hello
[18:37] <xtyper> i cant install kubuntu 11.1 its give me error in install..  error to create grub yast or something
[18:37] <mime> im installing kde 4.3 for jaunty j, are my sound drivers gonna change? thanx?
[18:37] <mime> or only interface? thnx
[18:39] <lontra> what package do i need to install ... configure: error: X11 not found but required, configure aborted.
[18:40] <kgeek> i m nt able to connect to PEAP+TKIP(msvchapv2) encrypted wireless network ..i used both wicd and network manege (default) help with ti
[18:40] <kgeek> pls pls
[18:43] <InforMed> Hi! I think I will give up of Karmic! I can't live without my external disk, and every time I reboot karmic don't mount the disc... "unable to enumerate usb device port 3". After 1 or 2h the disk mounts! It's annoying!
[18:50] <xtyper> i cant install kubuntu 11.1 its give me error in install..  error to create grub yast or something
[18:50] <BluesKaj> kgeek, that looks like a cellphone network ...are you using a 3G stick?
[18:51] <kgeek> BluesKaj: no it is not it is our college's wireless network i m using my netgear wireless CARD
[18:54] <localnnuser__> kscreensaver doesnt start, any ideas WHY?
[18:54] <BluesKaj> kgeek, you may want to find out what kind of encryption we're dealing with wpa-psk wpa2, wpa wep ?\
[18:55] <kgeek> BluesKaj: its WPA
[18:55] <kgeek> BluesKaj: sry itz WPA2
[18:55] <BluesKaj> did you set the wpa2 in wicd?
[18:56] <kgeek> BluesKaj: yes..
[18:56] <BluesKaj> with a passwrd/passkey?
[18:56] <xtyper> i cant install kubuntu  its give me error in install..  error to create grub yast or something
[18:57] <kgeek> BluesKaj: in WPA-2 (peap-TKIP) u need an user a/c
[18:57] <BluesKaj> xtyper, no yast on kubuntu
[18:57] <kgeek> BluesKaj: yes i got the a/c which workred well in window box.
[18:58] <xtyper> bluskaj  : ok i try to install opensuse but no one help me =/
[18:59] <kgeek> BluesKaj: wicd is able to validate my a/c's identity but  it is nt getting IP from DHCp while in windows box with same wireless card and same a/c it is getting well connected.
[18:59] <BluesKaj> kgeek, ok , you need to reinstall the wifi card driver
[19:00] <xtyper> bluekaj : i dont have wifi
[19:00] <kgeek> BluesKaj: hey dude ..i don't think so..as it is validating ..identity
[19:01] <BluesKaj> kgeek, the same thing happened to me , beleive me the driver needs to be reinstalled
[19:02] <BluesKaj> wicd  just cycles trying to get the IP after validation
[19:03] <BluesKaj> kgeek, I'll bet you also have 100% signal too
[19:03] <osirisx11> anyone know how i can get my 5G IPOD NANO to work on kubuntu?
[19:03] <kgeek> BluesKaj: actually i didn't installed driver for my card ..it got detected as i inserted usb netgear WIFI card
[19:04] <kgeek> BluesKaj: it also detected the network ..
[19:04] <caris_mere> in Karmic, what is the xorg.conf equivalent?
[19:05] <kgeek> BluesKaj: yo mostly some times below 90
[19:06] <BluesKaj> kgeek, dunno what else to tell you , try ndiswrapper and your windows driver
[19:07] <xtyper> when i install kubuntu i got error in sda5 ( sda5=NFTS) weird ,   i need to install it in sda7 (EXT3)
[19:09] <BluesKaj> xtyper, use the manual partition option and install / on ext3
[19:09] <xtyper> bluekaj : i tired but its give me error in ntfs partition , ( i do 2 partitions ext4 and swap
[19:10] <BluesKaj> flag the ext3 partition as the boot , then try
[19:11] <xtyper> bluekaj :there is optiojn to do it in kubuntu install ?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> yes , when you get to the paritioning oprion
[19:12] <xtyper> flag do you mean active the partition ?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> yes,partitioning option
[19:13] <BluesKaj> make, the ext3 the boot partition
[19:13] <xtyper> ext4
[19:13] <BluesKaj> whichever partition youwant as root or /
[19:14] <BluesKaj> bbl...5mins
[19:20] <kgeek> BluesKaj: thnxx dude .. will  try ...
[19:21] <kgeek> xtyper: ya u can have .ext4 as well
[19:22] <kgeek> xtyper: use ext4 as /  and make it primary partition
[19:26] <BluesKaj> these guys with 7 partitions ...makes me wonder what kind of parteditor they've been using
[19:27] <Novice> Doe's fglrx have drivers for ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 or would I have to use open source drivers?
[19:29] <Pici> Novice: I'm pretty sure that you'd need to use the open drivers for that
[19:29] <MWebmistress> Morning!
[19:30] <Novice> Pici: any ideas on how to get and install the correct drivers?
[19:31] <Pici> Novice: It *should* detect them automatically.
[19:31] <MWebmistress> Any idea how to create 2 different shares, allowing a laptop to write to the server as 2 different users?
[19:32] <Novice> Pici: I am using kubuntu 9.10 but it is not detecting any hardware drivers!
[19:32] <Pici> Novice: It doesn't need to. The Hardware Drivers tool is only for detecting if you need to install proprietary (close source) drivers.
[19:33] <Novice> Ah
[19:33] <xtyper> Kubuntu 9.10 vs openSUSE 11.2 who win ?
[19:33] <Mamarok> looks better now, Pici :)
[19:33] <Pici> Indeed.
[19:33] <jussio1> xtyper: not a subject for here.
[19:33] <jussio1> xtyper: #kubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)
[19:34] <Novice> Pici: so how can i fix my problem?
[19:34] <MWebmistress> Someone suggested SFTP for this but I dont know if that would work.  The server is physically behind the same firewall as the client laptop.  Besides, my router does not seem to have settings to keep static IPs on connected machines.
[19:34] <Pici> Novice: I missed that part, whats the issue that you're having.
[19:35] <xtyper> when kubuntu  9.10 relased ?
[19:35] <_hierO> Hi, all. I need help. I'm having a problem with Kubuntu and my laptop. It won't start up live or install at all. The laptop restarts at "loading /casper/initrd.gz."
[19:35] <jussio1> MWebmistress: you can use sftp with hostnames on a local network...
[19:36] <Novice> Pici: Need the correct drivers for ATI Radeon Express 1100
[19:36] <Novice> Pici: SO THAT i HAVE 3D SUPPORT
[19:36] <Novice> Pici: sry caps
[19:37] <MWebmistress> but how would that work with the lack of static IP assignment to my box.  I looked up options for my Airlilnk101 router
[19:38] <Pici> Novice: Can you pastebin the results of:    grep driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log    please?
[19:38] <Pici> !pastebin
[19:40]  * MWebmistress even looked up Tomato for her router but it doesnt seem any installs exist for that particular router
[19:40] <Novice> Pici: http://pastebin.com/m57334b7f
[19:42] <llutz> MWebmistress: what about dd-wrt?
[19:42] <MWebmistress> dd-wrt?
[19:43] <llutz> MWebmistress: alternate firmware
[19:43] <MWebmistress> Lets see if mine is listed
[19:44] <MWebmistress> nope.  Mine is an AR315
[19:44] <MWebmistress> Very old
[19:44] <Novice> Pici: http://pastebin.com/m57334b7f
[19:47] <MWebmistress> but yeah, SFTP seems easiest at this point.
[19:50] <Novice> Pici: you still there?
[19:50] <Pici> Novice: You could try adding the following to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to force it to use the ati driver: http://pastebin.com/m39428f6a
[19:50] <rosco_y> what is the best task manager?
[19:51] <rosco_y> hmm....I'll look in aptitude :_
[19:51] <llutz> !best | rosco_y
[19:51] <Novice> Pici: SO IS THE DRVER INSTALLED AND JUST NOT WORKING OR WHAT?
[19:52] <Pici> Novice: caps...
[19:52] <Novice> Pici: yeah sry dang buttons stick
[19:52] <Pici> Novice: Your xorg log says its loading the vesa (generic) driver instead of the ati driver.  the 'ati' driver is installed by default.
[19:52] <Pici> It should be detecting and using it, but its not for some reason.
[19:53] <Novice> Pici: so how do I force it to use the other
[19:54] <rosco_y> ubottu: thanks :)
[19:54] <rosco_y> lol
[19:54] <Pici> Novice: Copy the contents of the pastebin I linked to into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:54] <rosco_y> cleaver things, those bots
[19:54] <Novice> Pici: sry not familliar with /etc were is it located?
[19:54] <rosco_y> llutz: kudos
[19:55] <Pici> Novice: run the following: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:55] <rosco_y> looks like the "Office" application group has what I need
[19:56] <Novice> Pici: ok thats done
[19:56] <Pici> Novice: Is there anything in there?
[19:56] <Novice> Pici: no
[19:56] <Pici> Novice: Okay, so just paste in what I put on the pastebin and save.
[19:57] <Pici> Note: If this doesnt work and you cannot get back into the graphical environment. Just login on the text based login and run the following command: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf    then reboot.
[19:58] <Novice> Pici: ok thats done
[19:58] <Novice> Pici: ok did that
[19:58] <Pici> Novice: Er, you ran the rm command?
[19:59] <Pici> (you weren't supposed to)
[19:59] <Novice> Pici: no sry 1 sec
[19:59] <Pici> Novice: Don't run it!
[20:00] <MsMaco> oh goodness
[20:00] <Pici> oh goodness indeed.
[20:00] <Pici> It won't break anything, we'll just have to start over though.
[20:01] <alexeis> COMENSANDO HOY CON UBUNTU
[20:02] <alexeis> MUY INTEREZANTE
[20:02] <Novice> Pici: so after i pasted the stuff in kate and saved it then what reboot
[20:02] <Pici> Novice: Yes, reboot. But write down on a peice of paper or something the following command: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:03] <Novice> Pici: ok thats what im doing brb
[20:03] <Pici> Novice: If you are unable to login when your system reboots, just run that command and it will revert the changes that we made.
[20:04] <betitto0o> hola
[20:13] <Novice> Pici: hey tried it and didnt work now it wont revert back either so im on another pc
[20:14] <Novice> Pici: was the command sudo rm/etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Novice, there's a space after rm
[20:15] <Novice> Pici:  kk let me try it real quick
[20:16] <tertitten> is the new kde any fun ?
[20:16] <eduard> hello guys,i have a question,how do i change display manager from kdm to gdm?
[20:17] <eduard> so,anybody has any ideas on my problem?
[20:17] <Novice> Pici: what is the command again couse keeps saying no such file or command
[20:18] <BluesKaj> eduard, do you have gnome/ubuntu-desktop installed /
[20:19] <obladi> How is the new KDE ?
[20:19] <eduard> Yes i do,i had previosly installed ubuntu desktop then through terminal i installed kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[20:19] <eduard> it changed my display mgr from gdm to kdm
[20:20] <Novice> eduard: I believe you can choose at login
[20:20] <BluesKaj> eduard, yes,you can choose gdm or kdm at login
[20:20] <eduard> erm wait i sec,i will try and see
[20:22] <eduard> just checked,it allows me to select only the desktop environment but not the display manager
[20:23] <BluesKaj> Novice, sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:23] <Novice> Pici: any ideas y it's telling me no such file or command
[20:23] <MsMaco> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[20:23] <MsMaco> eduard: ^
[20:23] <Pici> Novice: What are you trying to run now?
[20:24] <BluesKaj> the file was probly removed before you rebooted
[20:24] <eduard> MsMaco ty ^^,i now switched back to gdm
[20:24] <Novice> Pici: we are trying to undo what we just did in kate couse it didn't work
[20:25] <Novice> Pici: anotherword's my graphical user interface is gone now
[20:25] <Pici> Novice: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:26] <Novice> Pici: That's what I am telling you it say's no such file or command when I type that
[20:27] <Pici> Novice: What does the exact error say?
[20:32] <Novice> Pici: ok got it to work my bad typo
[20:33] <Novice> Pici: now im back to square one on the radeon drivers
[20:35] <Novice> Pici: anymore suggestions on how to get my ATI Radeon Xpress 100 drivers working?
[20:35] <Pici> Novice: I cannot think of anything at the moment, sorry :/
[20:35] <Pici> Perhaps the forums have some more answers.
[20:36] <nicolas_> hello
[21:05] <sunit> hey
[21:24] <jonah> hey guys this raid bug is killing me, i can install my system ok with 9.10 karmic, but when i reboot i get stuck at initfrms with an error saying my disk path doesn't exist, how can i fix this. the bug says to run  dpkg-reconfigure mdadm  but how can i from initfrms??
[21:24] <jonah> i can boot the live disc if that helps??
[21:24] <jonah> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313097
[21:24] <jonah> that's the problem
[21:25] <jonah> could anyone please help me out, thanks much appreiciated if anyone has any ideas on how i can boot my system
[21:28] <bbeck> I notice that KDE 4.3.3 has become available through apt.  However, after adding the new repo, update / upgrade shows no new packages to install.  Has anyone been successful at installing it yet?
[21:29] <bbigras> bbeck: I'm downloading the 123 new packages right now
[21:29] <bbigras> bbeck: did you add the gpg key?
[21:30] <bbeck> I did
[21:32] <bbeck> The warning message does not show up.  I am runnin 64-bit, so maybe it's taking awhile for that particular version to hit.
[21:32] <bbigras> I'm running 64 bit too
[21:32] <bbigras> maybe you can check : apt-get update to see if there's anything wrong
[21:33] <mojosan``> anyone know of any solution to make a bluetooth keyboard work on kubuntu 9.10?
[21:36] <bbeck> bbigras: ah I figured it out, I had entered the incorrect URL.  (Don't know how I managed that but...)  Thanks for the help.
[21:36] <gigasoft>  how to play dvd with menu options?
[21:37] <proteus> I need some help: I just got a windows user converted to kubuntu but he's having a problem with his taskbar/panel disappearing and all the info I find on the web seems out of date. I've already tried having him kill plasma-desktop and restart it with no success. any assistance would be most appreciated!
[21:37] <proteus> I don't want my friend heading back over to the dark side!
[21:39] <bbeck> proteus: please describe disappearing.  Do you mean he has to add a new panel to bring it back?
[21:40] <proteus> bbeck, meaning he can't seem to bring it back period.
[21:45] <proteus> unfortunately, though experienced with bsd/linux I've been using xfce for quite a while and the new kde is unfamiliar to me
[21:48] <bbigras> bbeck: yw :)
[21:48] <jonah> hi can anyone please help me get past initframs please
[21:48] <jonah> i've loaded up a live cd but when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mdadm it says it's not installed, it's acting on the livecd and not fixing my system
[21:57] <frenchy> Hello every one :) does someone have experience in gspca ???
[21:57] <frenchy> I am trying to compile it  and it refuses under kubuntu 9.10
[22:02] <webchatuser41367> Is there anyway so that each user have a custom splash screen when login in?
[22:04] <freinhard> hi!
[22:04] <rosco_y> hi freinhard
[22:05] <jxjl> good evening, I'm trying to install kubuntu 9.10, but installer shows me my 2 80 GB disks (with prepared ext3 and swap filesystems) as a raid without any filesystems, but it isn't raid, is there any way, how to disable raid functionality in installer, to allow me to install kubuntu on my disks? (I'm using the first one for / and second for home, but there are also another filesystems)
[22:05] <freinhard> just saw the post about kde 4.3.3 on kubuntu.org. i thought minor bugfix releases would get into the main karmic-updates repositories?
[22:05] <rosco_y> jxjl: I wonder if it's in your bio?
[22:05] <rosco_y> sorry, bios
[22:05] <hansen_> is mplayer broken in karmic?
[22:06] <freinhard> hansen_: works for me on cli
[22:07] <hansen_> I'm using it to extract/convert audio, which worked nicely on jaunty. In karmic I just get a lot of "Too many buffered pts" and no output
[22:07] <jxjl> but I could install prevoius versions (i have never seen my disk as a raid before 9.10), now I want to make clean install
[22:07] <aaron424> installing a sound card broke my wifi
[22:07] <BluesKaj> mplayer is broken on mysetup period and has been for the last 2 distros
[22:07] <aaron424> wifi pci card, cm8736 sound card
[22:08] <freinhard> hansen_: tried to add -correct-pts
[22:21] <frenchy> anyone ?? some help with the compilation of gspca, trying to comunicate with my gf, ND she brack my balls to c me trough cam :(
[22:26] <devil81> #ubuntu.de
[22:29] <neceve> hi all
[22:29] <brendan-> who has a good guide for installing WMP firefox support for 9.10
[22:31] <neceve> guys, I'm on a dead end, I don't know what to do with the power management mechanism on 9.10
[22:32] <neceve> can someone to give me a hint?
[22:34] <jazzy_d> hi everyone
[22:34] <jazzy_d> how to configure ALSA to output 96khz audio ???/ PLS PLS
[22:37] <bottiger> If I want to burn a video onto a DVD so I can play it in my DVD player - to I need to convert it first or can k3b do that for me?
[22:38] <ubuntu_> !ask neceve
[22:40] <Tscheesy> brendan-: i do use the mozilla-plugin-vlc for this
[22:41] <Tscheesy> neceve: did you have a look at the systemsettings - Powermanagment-Profiles ?
[22:42] <brendan-> k
[22:42] <brendan-> lemme work on installing that
[22:42] <alisa> helo
[22:43] <alisa> rashen?
[22:43] <Tscheesy> !Hi | alisa
[22:44] <neceve> Tscheesy: Everything looks fine, on /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0 I can see charging/discharging with acpi_listenI can see the event (plug/unplug battery)
[22:45] <reagleBRKLN> I can't figure it out, the fonts on this site in Konq (and Firefox) look lousy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam. But another page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams) using the same stylsheets looks great.
[22:46] <neceve> even on applet I can see "is discharging" but remains in "plugged" mode
[22:46] <neoandersen> I lost evetything
[22:46] <neoandersen> everything : (
[22:47] <Tscheesy> neceve: i remarked such a behavior once since KDE4.3.2 here on my Laptop
[22:48] <neoandersen> how to know if my partition is ext3 or ext4?
[22:49] <reagleBRKLN> Here's an image of the two pages: Why does the one look so much worse? http://reagle.org/joseph/2009/11/cruddy-fonts.png
[22:50] <neoandersen> I upgrade to 9.10 and would like to know if partition upgraded to ext4 automatically too...
[22:50] <Tscheesy> neoandersen: it doesnt do that automatically
[22:52] <JTA> i just installed ubuntu studio 9.10, anybody know what the default file manager is in ubuntu 9.10?  it's not mc
[22:53] <lovre> hi all. I have just installed Karmic Koala. Is there somewhere a list of things to do now, my fonts are messy and small, specially in firefox, and to install mp3 support and stuff like that...
[22:53] <lovre> and my sound is not working
[22:54] <nighteagle> for mp3, you can install xine-ui
[22:54] <bbigras> neoandersen: to know if you have ext3 or 4 you can type: mount
[22:56] <neoandersen> bbigras: thanks
[22:56] <bbigras> neoandersen: yw
[23:01] <DIGGGER> hi
[23:06] <bdizzle> hi
[23:06] <bdizzle> I am hoping someone might be able to help me figure out why Amarok suddenly stopped working
[23:06] <bdizzle> I tried restarting, tried uninstall / re-install
[23:07] <bdizzle> it won't play things anymore
[23:09] <bdizzle> nevermind, got it
[23:12] <mojosan``> aaah blueman saved the day
[23:14] <JTA> ok, i think i found what is happening, thanks
[23:16] <user_> hi!I have a short and simple question:歩W度I perform arithmetic operations in a bsh script?
[23:16] <user_> read a; b=$a*2; echo $b; shows when entered 5 for a, it shows 5*2  instead of 10
[23:17] <user_> I tried google and it told me: let "b=$a*s" but it tells me it cannot find the let command
[23:20] <jazzy_d> Qt 4.1 or greater is required, how to install it under kubuntu 9.10??
[23:22] <mojosan``> jazzy_d: under your kde menu, go to applications -> system -> software managment, then youll figure out
[23:23] <jazzy_d> thanks
[23:25] <DexterF> hi
[23:25] <DexterF> problem upgrading: upgrade-manager is stuck at cleanup, removing "powernowd". attempting to stop powernowd fails.
[23:26] <DexterF> now - what am I supposed to do? kill the upgrade-manager and reboot?
[23:26] <DexterF> how do I resume the cleanup then?
[23:26] <lovre> flash in firefox doesnt produce sound... what do i do
[23:29] <lovre> my fonts are all so small....?
[23:30] <avihay> lovre: about the fonts, you can force your screen DPI
[23:30] <lovre> avihay: how? with nvidia settings pannel or?
[23:30] <avihay> or change the deafult font size...
[23:31] <furuno> so I've just installed kubuntu karmic, after configuring my CDMA network (entering number, username, password), I click on the network manager icon and choose my network but nothing happens (the popup menu still there and I'm not connected), any help?
[23:31] <avihay> umm, don't know the nvidia settings panel, but go to system settings
[23:31] <avihay> furuno: replace knetwork manager, me thinks. it won't connect to encripted networks for me
[23:32] <lovre> ok brb
[23:32] <furuno> avihay : the bad news is, my CDMA connection is my only way to connect to network, any workaround (I can access my Kubuntu partition from Ubuntu) ?
[23:33] <avihay> umm, well, I think that the nm-applet package is on the cd
[23:34] <furuno> avihay : so I just need to pop the cd in and apt-get or dpkg?
[23:35] <yacov> user_:  try this c=$(($a*2))
[23:35] <yacov> it worked for me
[23:36] <avihay> furuno: you also need to add the cd to your sources
[23:36] <avihay> let me first check if the package is there
[23:36] <furuno> avihay : or can I just pop my Kubuntu cd in Ubuntu and install kde?
[23:39] <avihay> umm, you'll have to be more specific as to what you mean, but yes, there is a way to add kde to an ubuntu installation
[23:40] <avihay> furuno: and you can use your cd as a source for some(most) of the packagers
[23:42] <furuno> avihay : I've tried "apt-cdrom add" and  "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" but it say I still need to download 187 MB of packages, is there's anyway to do this without downloading?
[23:43] <avihay> umm, a part of that 187MB will be from the CD
[23:44] <avihay> you can upplug and try
[23:44] <avihay> *disconect from the network
[23:44] <furuno> avihay : let me try disconnecting
[23:45] <avihay> anyway, you can download the .deb files to network-manager-gnome manuallly
[23:45] <avihay> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager-applet/
[23:46] <avihay> replace us with your country code...
[23:47] <avihay> furuno: when installing kubuntu desktop, you would also want to install all the packages that kubuntu-desktop recommends
[23:47] <avihay> I have to take a shower, be back in 20
[23:48] <furuno> avihay : no luck :|
[23:52] <avihay> bahh, well, no shower for me
[23:54] <furuno> well then I just need to be patient and download, right :/ 50min at 60 KB/s
[23:55] <furuno> really, apt-get should use a faster downloader like the one on arch :/
[23:55] <avihay> depends, you can still download the nm-applet's deb file and install it manually in kubuntu
[23:56] <furuno> avihay : well, my Ubuntu partition is 32 GB and Kubuntu is only 16 GB and I prefer to work in here :)
[23:56] <avihay> I see
[23:56] <Gargoyle1976> I've upgraded 9.10 and my atheros wireless controller keeps dropping the connection. I know there is a bug report, but does anyone know of a workaround to get it working?
[23:57] <furuno> I guess I just bug (or help) someone at #ubuntu
[23:58] <avihay> Gargoyle1976: you can try and install an older/newer package
[23:59] <Gargoyle1976> avihay: i tried doing the back ports and I thought it worked but it lost it again...it worked under 9.04 fine tho