[12:00] <PVZ> ok
[12:00] <unfo> salah: did it work?
[12:00] <PVZ> if you want to help me,I'd glat.
[12:00] <PVZ> glad*
[12:00] <PVZ> I'd be glad*
[12:00] <unfo> salah: do you even have mp3 playing capability in mplayer?
[12:00] <Sanne> PVZ, or maybe try to ask the people in #gimp about the language setting problem, they might give better advice than me.
[12:01] <pulento> gyjghj
[12:01] <unfo> zack: any luck?
[12:01] <matsur> nickrud, ok, I'll stay away. Is dapper now stable enough to use day-to-day?
[12:01] <unfo> matsur: so don't use AAC. :)
[12:01] <PVZ> Sanne, I'd prefer to learn how to do a shell script
[12:01] <unfo> matsur: yes.
[12:01] <nickrud> matsur, I'm not gonna say yes, but I am currently
[12:01] <matsur> unfo, 3 gb of music begs to differ ;)
[12:01] <zack> unfo, i found another tutorial that someone linked who said they had a amd64 so im looking at that, except its for gentoo
[12:01] <PwcrLinux-Away> Pls lv a msg to /msg memoserv send PwcrLinux-Away <msg>.
[12:01] <unfo> PVZ: there are good tutorials on google.
[12:01] <salah> unfo, im on way fixing it :)
[12:02] <unfo> matsur: i bet sox can convert it.
[12:02] <salah> unfo; yes I can play mp3s
[12:02] <unfo> matsur: *bet* not sure.
[12:02] <unfo> salah: good.
[12:02] <PVZ> unfo, ok,i'm going to look for it
[12:02] <unfo> zack: no, a gentoo tutorial wont cut it.
[12:02] <PVZ> thank you guys very much
[12:02] <salah> unfo, firefox is already using a plugin to play mp3, but I can't get it removed.. that player is very useless
[12:02] <zack> unfo, oh well im kinda in a rut then
[12:02] <unfo> zack: remember, if you were using normal ubuntu you wouldn'tve had this problem :)
[12:02] <unfo> salah: which plugin?
[12:03] <zack> unfo, yes i considered reinstalling with a normal ubuntu disc
[12:03] <salah> unfo, well, that's my problem, if I knew which plugin it was, I would uninstalled it.. any idea where to find out?
[12:03] <unfo> zack: so why didnt you? :)
[12:03] <unfo> salah: go to this website:
[12:03] <unfo> salah: about:plugins
[12:03] <GaiaX11> Why is that i can play sounds in xmms and all my sound system is ok. But in totem i cannot hear anything? But it runs the .avi file?
[12:03] <MisterN> n8
[12:03] <zack> unfo, i have a laptop with it on there but i couldnt get very far with that
[12:04] <unfo> zack: y not?
[12:04] <zack> unfo, i couldnt figure out how to apply the wine-wow patch
[12:04] <ice60> can anyone get to ubuntuforum? i need to see a thread
[12:04] <GaiaX11> Have i missed any sound codec for .avi?
[12:04] <mustard5> GaiaX11, could be that the totem volume control is turned down?
[12:05] <unfo> zack: use standard 32bit ubuntu.
[12:05] <zack> unfo, i am on my laptop which is right beside me
[12:05] <GaiaX11> No, it is in his full
[12:05] <Sanne> PVZ, you write a text file, put #!/bin/sh as the first line, put any shell command after that you want to be run. Give this file a name you like and put it somewhere in your path, like /usr/local/bin. Then make it executable and call it by it's name from anywhere. Bingo :)
[12:05] <nickrud> salah, what program is running your mp3s?
[12:05] <megaman123> how do i access a mounted drive (ntfs - 2nd harddrive) ? its already mounted
[12:05] <unfo> zack: so?
[12:05] <Sanne> PVZ, I paste you an example, sec
[12:05] <zack> unfo, how would i apply a patch file to wine?
[12:05] <ice60> can anyone get to post #3 in this thread? - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128891
[12:06] <unfo> zack: patch -p0 < filename.patch
[12:06] <unfo> or -p1 sometimes.
[12:06] <zack> unfo, do i have to be in the directory that the patch is in? or the directory wine is in? or should the patch be in the wine directory?
[12:06] <GaiaX11> Any help?
[12:06] <unfo> zack: the directory wine is in
[12:06] <NoUse> megaman123 edit the entry in /etc/fstab, to the options section add uid=<youruser>,umask=0007
[12:07] <unfo> GaiaX11: if nobody helps you then ask in the forums instead.
[12:07] <salah> nickrud, totem is the default player for mp3s
[12:07] <zack> unfo, does the patch need to be there? and how do i find that directory of wine?
[12:07] <unfo> zack: wherever you untarred to.
[12:07] <GaiaX11> Ok!
[12:07] <zack> i used synaptic to install it
[12:07] <mustard5> GaiaX11, good luck :)
[12:07] <GaiaX11> Could you point me there?
[12:08] <megaman123> NoUse: do i have to restart after that ? (sorry new to linux - used to windows)
[12:08] <outlawcrook> Weeeee got the wireless card working WEEEEE !!!
[12:08] <mustard5> Gacoment, http://ubuntuforums.org
[12:08] <unfo> GaiaX11: http://ubuntu.com/support
[12:08] <unfo> GaiaX11: what mustard5 said
[12:08] <Gacoment> ?_?
[12:08] <mustard5> doh...wrong username
[12:08] <mustard5> sorry
[12:08] <GaiaX11> Thanks
[12:08] <zack> unfo, where would it be if i used synaptic to install it
[12:08] <Sanne> PVZ, example: starting blender binary from blender.org from a custom location with some command line args already set, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14190
[12:08] <unfo> zack: you cannot install it with synaptic.
[12:08] <unfo> zack: do: apt-get source wine
[12:09] <NoUse> megaman123 umount and remount it
[12:09] <unfo> megaman123: or reboot, if that doesnt work :)
[12:09] <matsur> upgrading to dapper is just changing all "brrezy"s to "dapper" in sources.list and then dist-upgrade right?
[12:09] <Arrick> unfo,  yes you can if your run the easysource repos
[12:09] <cjacob> how do i create a home directory for a new user?
[12:09] <Arrick> hi all
[12:09] <zack> unfo, i got a message saying unable to find a source package for wine
[12:09] <Sanne> PVZ, this script itself resides in /usr/local/bin and can be called with it's name.
[12:09] <Arrick> did you add it to your repos zack
[12:09] <megaman123> NoUse: how ? whats the command ? for mounting
[12:09] <Arrick> !easysource
[12:09] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:10] <unfo> !easyubuntu
[12:10] <ubotu> I heard easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:10] <autosuggested> megaman123: What's the name of the direcotry you want to unmount?
[12:10] <nickrud> salah, if you're on breezy, you probably will have to remove the libtotem* files from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[12:10] <autosuggested> *directory
[12:10] <PVZ> Sanne, let me try it
[12:10] <zack> arrick, yes i did
[12:10] <unfo> salah: wait
[12:10] <cjacob> how do i create a home directory?
[12:10] <Xbox_guru> hello, can I download the latestest java version, on the download page it says linux_i586, instead of i_386.
[12:10] <Arrick> what up texan? evening padna nickrud, :^)
[12:10] <unfo> cjacob: type cd and press enter. youre now in your home dir.
[12:10] <PVZ> Sanne, thank you very much again,that is much more help than i ever expected to receive on IRC
[12:10] <megaman123> autosuggest: its my second drive, ntfs hdb 1 and 2
[12:10] <nickrud> Arrick, how are you?
[12:11] <cjacob> when trying to login, error screen says that the home directory appears to be non-existant
[12:11] <unfo> Arrick: >yes you can if your run the easysource repos< what?
[12:11] <NoUse> megaman123 run 'mount' to see where they are mounted
[12:11] <Arrick> great nickrud i installed my winserv2003 on my server
[12:11] <Arrick> you can install wine with wynaptic
[12:11] <NoUse> megaman123 then 'sudo umount /mount/point' to umount from that location
[12:11] <Arrick> synaptic
[12:11] <autosuggested> megaman123: Emmm, where are you mounting it? To which directory? What's the line in /etc/fstab ?
[12:11] <unfo> Arrick: he needs source to apply a patch.
[12:11] <kbrooks> Arrick: LOL wynaptic is funny
[12:11] <Arrick> oh ok
[12:12] <Arrick> haha
[12:12] <unfo> Arrick: any clue?
[12:12] <Arrick> nickrud, you know how hard I tried to get my all in one printer ot function all the way in ubuntu? thats why I went to that server os
[12:12] <Arrick> yeah
[12:12] <megaman123> fstab: /dev/hdb1 /mdeia/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[12:12] <PVZ> Sanne, I cant save the file into /usr/local/bin
[12:12] <outlawcrook> Can someone tell me how to get the top bar to give me both icons for my wired and my wireless connection
[12:12] <outlawcrook> ????
[12:12] <Sanne> PVZ, well, it's just the principle of simple shell scripting. For more, just try to find some tutorials, search for "bash shell scripting" or similar.
[12:12] <megaman123> but i unmounted it already
[12:13] <zack> unfo, i found in /usr/lib/ there is a wine folder
[12:13] <Arrick> unfo, he needs to get the sourses from easysource, and then he can allpy all he needs for wine
[12:13] <autosuggested> megaman123: Then just type "mount -a"
[12:13] <eric_polegato> how would i go about installing plugins, say for viewing videos embedded in websites etc
[12:13] <unfo> zack: you need sources. ask arrick.
[12:13] <Arrick> he has them
[12:13] <autosuggested> megaman123: Sorry, "sudo mount -a"
[12:13] <Sanne> PVZ, you need to save it with sudo. Start your editor with sudo. or save the file now to your home dir and copy it over with sudo.
[12:13] <unfo> Arrick: in /usr/lib????
[12:13] <nickrud> eric_polegato, install mozilla-mplayer
[12:13] <Arrick> no
[12:13] <eric_polegato> thanks.
[12:14] <PVZ> Sanne, yes,thank you
[12:14] <Stormx2> You know what ubuntu should do? "Introduce a friend to ubuntu linux weekend"
[12:14] <zack> arrick then where?
[12:14] <unfo> Stormx2: they have those, its called an InstallFest. :)
[12:14] <NoUse> megaman123 oh, so to remount just type 'sudo mount /dev/hdax'
[12:14] <outlawcrook> and to pick the wireless or wired connection by itself also
[12:14] <NoUse> megaman123 whatever the actual dev name is
[12:14] <Stormx2> unfo: Really?
[12:14] <Arrick> zack get the sources from the easysource link above and add them to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <Stormx2> unfo: Sounds too nerdy :
[12:14] <unfo> Stormx2: yes. what city are you in?
[12:14] <outlawcrook> for what ever is there to use
[12:14] <megaman123> well sudo mount -a mounted them again
[12:15] <zack> arick, add the link to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:15] <Stormx2> unfo: A town called Newbury in england, Near Reading and Winchester
[12:15] <Arrick> outlawcrook, they fight each other, choose one or the other at a time
[12:15] <Arrick> no
[12:15] <Rhine> I am trying to use Gtkpod to transfer my music from my ipod to my harddrive but i cannot write to the disk how do i become user permanently for that disk?
[12:15] <megaman123> how do i change to it from console ?
[12:15] <autosuggested> megaman123: Yup, "sudo mount -a" mounts everything you've specified in /etc/fstab
[12:15] <outlawcrook> o ok so that is why i cant get it
[12:15] <outlawcrook> K thanks
[12:15] <Arrick> zack post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[12:15] <NoUse> megaman123 what are you trying to change now?
[12:15] <Samuli^> Rhine, try your /home folder
[12:15] <unfo> Stormx2: do a google search for: newbury OR reading OR winchester LUG OR "Linux * Group"
[12:15] <Arrick> I'll change it so you can install
[12:15] <PVZ> Sanne, one last question,this one more stupid than any other,how do I copy the file on terminal?
[12:15] <megaman123> im trying to access it from console
[12:16] <unfo> Stormx2: or ask your local university if they have a computer club, or search for UKUUG
[12:16] <zack> arrick, whats pastebin?
[12:16] <autosuggested> Stormx2: Vodafone City!!
[12:16] <megaman123> but when i write cd hdb2 i get no such file or directory
[12:16] <unfo> zack: /msg ubotu pastebin
[12:16] <NoUse> megaman123 you need to give the full path
[12:16] <Stormx2> autosuggested: Indeed XD
[12:16] <Tinse> what does 'chmod to 775' mean ? ... it's in a guide but I dont understand :(
[12:16] <NoUse> cd /media/hdb2
[12:16] <Arrick> zack you are using breezy right?
[12:16] <unfo> Tinse: sudo chmod 775 filename
[12:16] <zack> arrick, yes
[12:16] <Stormx2> my local university XD
[12:16] <unfo> Tinse: really, sudo chmod 775 THISISTHEFILENAME
[12:16] <Tinse> allright thanks :)
[12:17] <Sanne> PVZ, no stupid question, we've all been there sometime :). The command is 'cp', type: sudo cp your_file /usr/local/bin
[12:17] <unfo> Tinse: np. tell us if it worked.
[12:17] <Stormx2> like the somewhat sober students at reading uni would listen to a guy looking for a linux user group ;)
[12:17] <Arrick> zack what country you in?
[12:17] <Arrick> two letter
[12:17] <zack> arrick, usa
[12:17] <Arrick> ok
[12:17] <Tinse> unfo, will do :)
[12:17] <Rhine> Samuli^, The harddrive with the home folder isnt large enough to hold all my music, so im trying to move it to the larger one it is partioned and is the /boot/ but it wont let me write to it
[12:17] <Karim> Hola mi amigo's :)
[12:17] <unfo> Tinse: i recommend a book on learning Unix. there are some in every used bookstore and library.
[12:18] <Samuli^> Rhine, that's not a good idea.
[12:18] <unfo> Karim: hola
[12:18] <megaman123> NoUse: i have the drives mounted but how can access them from console?
[12:18] <PVZ> Sanne, what does "sudo: must be setuid root
[12:18] <PVZ> " mean?
[12:18] <Samuli^> Rhine, mount it to somewhere else than /boot
[12:18] <PVZ> sorry for that everyone.
[12:18] <NoUse> megaman123 you have to use the full path: cd /media/hdb2
[12:18] <unfo> PVZ: what was the command?
[12:18] <autosuggested> Stormx2: http://www.sclug.org.uk/
[12:18] <doctormo> trouble setting up network when computer starts
[12:18] <eric_polegato> where could i download mozilla m-player
[12:18] <Arrick> zack once you paste it, put the link in here
[12:18] <eric_polegato> synaptic?
[12:18] <PVZ> sudo cp gimp /usr/local/bin
[12:18] <megaman123> NoUse: yaaa :) thanks
[12:18] <zack> arrick, ok hold on a min
[12:18] <NoUse> megaman123 sure
[12:19] <TheInternet> Hey, I have a problem with my wireless card. Ever since I recompiled the kernel, I had an issue with my wireless card not being found, and this error of SIOCSIFADDR not being found.
[12:19] <nickrud> eric_polegato, yes. If it's not there, you need to enable the multiverse repository
[12:19] <megaman123> NoUse: why dont i have write permission to them ??
[12:19] <unfo> PVZ: you need to install the gimp package
[12:19] <Sanne> PVZ, oh. That doesn't sound good. I don't know. This sounds as if there's something wrong with your sudo. Can anybody help please?
[12:19] <unfo> TheInternet: so use your old kernel instead. :)
[12:19] <NoUse> megaman123 because Microsoft won't tell us how NTFS works
[12:19] <TheInternet> Its the same on all the kernels.
[12:19] <Arrick> NoUse, it works like this, Not Too Fine System
[12:19] <NoUse> Arrick hehe yeah
[12:20] <megaman123> NoUse: really !!!! so u can not write on ntfs partitions ???
[12:20] <unfo> TheInternet: i use debian so i can't help you with that.
[12:20] <Sanne> PVZ, oh!! Don't name your shell script the same as a program you already have, like gimp. Call it something else.
[12:20] <PVZ> if I try sudo su,the same problem happens
[12:20] <NoUse> megaman123 no
[12:20] <unfo> megaman123: correct. it's unreliable.
[12:20] <PVZ> Sanne, haha sure.
[12:20] <megaman123> NoUse: wow ...
[12:20] <nickrud> PVZ, ls -l /usr/bin/sudo should look similar to -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root 93332 2006-01-09 04:41 /usr/bin/sudo ; note -rws that it begins with
[12:20] <Arrick> megaman123, only if you use nfs shares ( NoUse )
[12:20] <Samuli^> megaman123, you can, but it's still in development. Better off not to enable that.
[12:20] <Stormx2> autosuggested: Do you really think they'd accept a 15 year old there? :
[12:20] <unfo> nickrud: a suid root shell script???
[12:20] <unfo> Stormx2: lugs accept all ages.
[12:20] <NoUse> megaman123 if you want to share date between windows and linux, you should create a fat32 parition, linux can write to that
[12:20] <nickrud> unfo, that's what it shows here, :)
[12:21] <Arrick> yep
[12:21] <autosuggested> Stormx2: God knows, it's probably full of beardy old Unix admins!
[12:21] <unfo> nickrud: what's in it again?
[12:21] <Stormx2> autosuggested: my thoughts exactly
[12:21] <eric_polegato> nickrud, anything else you think i should need for that sort of thing?
[12:21] <TheInternet> Well, it's odd, cause I unistalled the custom kernel, but I still have the issue with my card not being detected.
[12:21] <nickrud> unfo, of course, some other comments have rendered my point moot, I think
[12:21] <MrRio> Should Linux distros have standard CD autorun capabilities?
[12:21] <Rhine> Samuli^, I changed it to /Music but the permission is still denied how can i give permission permantly?
[12:21] <unfo> Stormx2: also, try meetup.com, they take younger ppl. not sure if theres a meetup.co.uk though.
[12:21] <autosuggested> Stormx2: Never know unless you go...
[12:21] <Sanne> PVZ, please do what nickrud says to fix your sudo.
[12:22] <raptros-v76> MrRio: you mean the install disks?
[12:22] <||arifaX> hi, how can I delete a file in nautilus without using the trash?
[12:22] <Zeus`> how do I get a list of all programs currently installed on Ubuntu? And how can I remove them? IE like add/remove programs list in Wndows?
[12:22] <zack> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14191
[12:22] <Samuli^> Rhine, you need to edit your fstab.
[12:22] <PVZ> nickrud, i didn't understand it.I am new to (and ignorant about) ubuntu
[12:22] <unfo> MrRio: some do, some dont.
[12:22] <TheInternet> Does anyone know what SIOCSIFADDR is even?
[12:22] <Samuli^> Rhine, is a ext3 partition or what?
[12:22] <unfo> TheInternet: google for it.
[12:22] <Rhine> Oh ok i think i know how to that down
[12:22] <Rhine> yes it is
[12:23] <Stormx2> Zeus`: You want synaptic package manager
[12:23] <MrRio> raptros-v76, Software/game discs. Devs could stick a .autorun file on there, with a link to an icon and have it launch when Mr.Bloggs sticks in his copy of Quake5
[12:23] <zack> arrick, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14191
[12:23] <Stormx2> Zeus`: That'll list stuff which you havn't compiled yourself
[12:23] <MrRio> raptros-v76, for example
[12:23] <Samuli^> Rhine, then you need to chmod the permissions.
[12:23] <nickrud> PVZ, ls -l /usr/bin/sudo gives a long listing of that file. It begins with the permissions that file has
[12:23] <PVZ> nickrud, if I do "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo,it says file or directory not found.
[12:23] <unfo> Rhine: why not $HOME/music instead?
[12:23] <Samuli^> and perhaps chown yourself as owner.
[12:23] <Rhine> I can do that?
[12:23] <Rhine> >.<
[12:23] <Reon> how can I check what chipset eth0 is using ?
[12:23] <megaman123> NoUse: ok...np for now...and what if i want to connect to a shared dirve on my network..is there are a way to make this permenant when system boots?
[12:23] <unfo> Reon: maybe lspci or lsmod
[12:23] <Samuli^> Rhine, yeah. Might be a good idea to mount it to your /home/
[12:23] <unfo> Reon: or lshw
[12:24] <Rhine> Would that let me write with out editing fstab?
[12:24] <unfo> Rhine: yes, if you have the free disk space on your Ubuntu partition.
[12:24] <Samuli^> rhine, I think there's no permission options for ext3 in fstab anyways.
[12:24] <nickrud> PVZ, did you do a server install?
[12:24] <thatfunkymunki> megaman123, edit FSTAB
[12:24] <Rhine> Should i do extended 2 then
[12:24] <thatfunkymunki> using nfs or whatnot
[12:24] <thatfunkymunki> or smbfs
[12:25] <Samuli^> unfo, err.. he's mounting another partition so space on root doesn't really matter.
[12:25] <nickrud> PVZ, try this: apt-cache policy sudo
[12:25] <zack> Arrick, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14191
[12:25] <unfo> Samuli^: oops, ok
[12:25] <Samuli^> Rhine, no.. Just chmod the permissions.
[12:25] <PVZ> nickrud, you are (and Sanne, and everyone else is) going to find it funny,but...
[12:25] <nickrud> PVZ, does it show sudo as Installed ?
[12:25] <Arrick> yeah Im working on it right now zack
[12:25] <zack> arrick, ok
[12:25] <Samuli^> Rhine, first off.. try to mount it into /home/music for example.
[12:25] <PVZ> no
[12:26] <unfo> PVZ: odd!
[12:26] <PVZ> nickrud, you are (and Sanne, and everyone else is) going to find it funny,but...
[12:26] <PVZ> when i tried to save the shell script to /usr/local/bin on graphic mode...
[12:26] <Rhine> Samuli^, Yep im changing the path at this moment
[12:26] <Reon> unfo, nope. I have tow onboard controllers and I need to know which one is eth0
[12:26] <MrRio> I think some kind of standard for autorun would be a good idea, need to write up some spec so gnome and kde can implement it. It would need to detect things like Kodak Pictures CD's, a disc full of music or an .autofile which describes what to do when the disc is inserted
[12:26] <Samuli^> Rhine, yup.. see if you get rights to it that way.
[12:26] <PVZ> i did a chmod on -R /usr
[12:26] <Reon> unfo, nope. I have 2 onboard controllers and I need to know which one is eth0
[12:26] <PVZ> and this is the funny part,i did chmod -sw
[12:26] <PVZ> does it mean anything?
[12:27] <Stormx2> Damnit! On startup, I need to make a terminal window open, and for it to run a command. How do I do this?
[12:27] <unfo> ompaul: many people dont know to use google.
[12:27] <nickrud> PVZ, if it does, you're screwed :)
[12:27] <sybariten> i just got an error from a make (of some sort) that it couldnt find SSL library. I have added an ssl switch to the compile instructions manually. But i do have installed openssl, via apt-get. Any place you know i should look for paths?
[12:27] <Stormx2> whenever I try -x or whatever in gnome-terminal, it just opens real quick then closes
[12:27] <raptros-v76> MrRio: yeah, i see what you mean.
[12:27] <ompaul> unfo, we don't tell people to do that we look it up :-) or leave it
[12:27] <PVZ> nickrud, i agree :)
[12:27] <sybariten> its mutt that im trying to make btw, and i'm using dpkg-buildpackage
[12:27] <NoUse> sybariten have you installed the ssl dev package?
[12:27] <unfo> ompaul: i hear
[12:27] <MrRio> raptros-v76: we're halfway there with the 'Removable Drives and Media'
[12:27] <sybariten> NoUse: ah, no, i think not.
[12:27] <ompaul> unfo, thats how we get distro karma ++ ;-)
[12:28] <MrRio> under prefrences
[12:28] <sybariten> NoUse: so thats something i am gonna need?
[12:28] <NoUse> sybariten libssl-dev
[12:28] <raptros-v76> MrRio: yeah. i was about to say the same thing.
[12:28] <unfo> ompaul: i use debian. i think google is a key skill.
[12:28] <NoUse> sybariten if you are compiling, yes
[12:28] <nickrud> PVZ, do ls -l /usr/bin/gnome-terminal , do you get any output at all?
[12:28] <ompaul> unfo, a saying l left behing is, "If only there was a way to search the internet." :-)
[12:28] <ompaul> s/behing/behind
[12:28] <sybariten> NoUse: ah ok...  any idea what it may be called?
[12:28] <thatfunkymunki> :p
[12:28] <PVZ> nickrud, yes
[12:28] <Rhine> Stormx2, go System>Preferences> Session and add a startup
[12:28] <NoUse> sybariten libssl-dev
[12:28] <PVZ> should i paste it here?
[12:29] <ompaul> PVZ, NO
[12:29] <nickrud> PVZ, paste that one line, please
[12:29] <unfo> Reon: did lshw do it?
[12:29] <unfo> !pastebin
[12:29] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:29] <PVZ> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-09-09 13:58 /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[12:29] <sybariten> NoUse: ok thanks! so it has no connection namewise to openssl ?
[12:29] <Stormx2> Rhine: 1) I don't know the command to make it run in terminal 2) Adding the command alone doesn't work
[12:29] <Arrick> zack, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   delete everything in it, and paste the text from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14192 into it, then hit ctrl+o to save it, and then ctrl+x to exit, then type sudo apt-get update
[12:29] <ompaul> PVZ, sorry I thought you had more than two lines
[12:29] <Rhine> What are you trying to run?
[12:29] <PVZ> ompaul, i wouldnt even ask to paste it if i had :)
[12:29] <NoUse> sybariten I don't think so
[12:29] <ompaul> PVZ, ;-)
[12:29] <unfo> ompaul: i dont get it
[12:30] <nickrud> PVZ, ok, it should be -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-04-10 04:31 /usr/bin/gnome-terminal .
[12:30] <Reon> unfo, yes it tells you if it is eth0 or 1
[12:30] <nickrud> PVZ, not the -rwx it starts with
[12:30] <raptros-v76> MrRio: i mean, audio disks in gnome get opened in a cd playing program already,
[12:30] <unfo> Reon: good.
[12:30] <ompaul> unfo, that expression - I used to say it, and it might dawn in people what they could look up :)
[12:30] <zack> arrick ok im working on that
[12:30] <Stormx2> Rhine: A java server my friend made. It stays running, the command doesn't end until I ctrl + c. The command is cd /media/Win98/MooJava/classes && java runTWOServer
[12:30] <Reon> unfo, thanks
[12:30] <nickrud> PVZ, sudo ls <-- does that work
[12:30] <PVZ> nickrud, yeah,the only difference is the RWX that should be there
[12:30] <PVZ> nickrud, no
[12:31] <nickrud> PVZ, you have a root account?
[12:31] <CentralDogma> can someone help me?
[12:31] <NoUse> !helpme
[12:31] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:31] <ompaul> PVZ, does >>sudo id<< return anything?
[12:31] <Rhine> Some one with more experience probably knows the answer :/
[12:31] <PVZ> ompaul, nothing with sudo returns anything but...
[12:31] <PVZ> must be setuid root
[12:31] <nickrud> PVZ, and ompaul knows much more about this than I do
[12:32] <PVZ> nickrud, i only login as root in recovery mode
[12:32] <sybariten> if i have started one compile session that borked out for some reason, to i need to "flush" anthyihg before i try again, or does *nix clean up its traces pretty much itself?
[12:32] <sybariten> s/to/do
[12:32] <zack> pvz "sudo su -"
[12:32] <PVZ> zack, nothing
[12:32] <unfo> Reon: np :)
[12:32] <PVZ> same output
[12:32] <ompaul> PVZ, do id and tell me what the first number you get is
[12:33] <zack> pvz, when you type that as a command it should log you in as root without a password, try su -
[12:33] <PVZ> ompaul, the 1st number is 1000
[12:33] <nickrud> zack, his sudo doesn't work
[12:33] <zack> nickrud, oh
[12:33] <Rhine> Samuli^, When i do /home/Music it doesn't make it that it will make it "none". Dunno know if i mentioned this but they are two different Hard Drives ill just try the chmod :/
[12:34] <PVZ> zack, when i try SU without the sudo i always get "authentication failure"
[12:34] <ompaul> PVZ, I don't want to ask this but, you are rather stuck, have you used some software to try and install stuff like codecs and such like?
[12:34] <Arrick> nickrud, do we know yet if hes signed in as root, that seems to be a common thing now adays
[12:34] <ompaul> Arrick, he ain't his uid is 1000
[12:34] <Rhine> How do i use the chmod command?
[12:34] <PVZ> ompaul, no,i always install things on synaptic or downloading them and then using dpkg.
[12:34] <Arrick> ok
[12:35] <nickrud> PVZ if I was in your shoes, I'd reboot into recovery mode , do chmod -R u+x /usr && chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo . It will fix some of your issues, but probably there's some hidden gotchas yet.
[12:35] <ompaul> nickrud, wait up a sec
[12:35] <Arrick> ok, im gonna go read for a bit, hey zack anyone in here can help you with the rest of the install (even some with minimal knowledge) since I have even less than most in here
[12:35] <PVZ> nickrud, let me write that down
[12:35] <raptros-v76> use a rescue disk
[12:35] <sybariten> Rhine: you could do 'chmod 777 somefile' for instance, and that would make the file open for most things yuou can think of
[12:35] <nickrud> ompaul, did you see where he chmodded -r on usr?
[12:36] <zack> arrick ok
[12:36] <ompaul> nickrud, no
[12:36] <nickrud> ompaul, er, did you see where he chmodded -w on usr?
[12:36] <ompaul> nickrud, still no
[12:36] <Rhine> Its said Operation Not permitted sybariten
[12:36] <nickrud> ompaul, and I'm gonna shut up. I typed wrong again. I should have stuck with and ompaul knows much more about this than I do
[12:37] <ompaul> nickrud, if he did that then you were not too far off the mark
[12:37] <raptros-v76> use a bootable cd
[12:37] <Rhine> Nvm i just added Sudo to it thanks sybariten
[12:37] <ompaul> thats the best idea yet
[12:38] <ompaul> PVZ, got a live cd?
[12:38] <PVZ> ompaul, yes,but it's 5.04
[12:38] <PVZ> and i'm running breezy
[12:38] <raptros-v76> any disk will do, as long as it has the basic programs
[12:39] <ompaul> PVZ, two good things 1 its a readable file system 2 chmod works as long as you mount the drive
[12:39] <charly88> wenas a todos
[12:39] <Samuli^> rhine, it's a bit tricky.. in numerical the first number means owner, second owners group and third 'others'
[12:39] <ompaul> what language was that?
[12:39] <unfo> ompaul: maybe strace sudo would help them?
[12:39] <Samuli^> Rhine, and the numbers are 1 write, 2 read and 4 execute then you just add them up like you want.
[12:39] <mcquaid> i use xfce, and i can't set the capture level through it's mixer,  i thought it was a problem with their mixer but then installed alsamixergui and have the same problem
[12:40] <PVZ> i dont know about the wenas,but "a todos" can be either spanish or portuguese
[12:40] <mcquaid> but i can set it via the ncurses alsamixer
[12:40] <PVZ> most likely spanish
[12:40] <Samuli^> Rhine, for example 777 means everyone has all rights (read, write and execute)
[12:40] <ompaul> unfo, no if he did chmod -w /usr he did some nasty damage
[12:40] <unfo> ompaul: oh.
[12:40] <ompaul> PVZ, got a lot of disk space?
[12:40] <esaulo> hola a todos
[12:40] <unfo> hola
[12:40] <ompaul> !es
[12:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:41] <PVZ> ompaul, almost 20GB
[12:41] <nickrud> ompaul, looking back, it was actually -R -ws on user
[12:41] <ompaul> PVZ, dsl?
[12:41] <esaulo> hi how are you?
[12:41] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:41] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:41] <PVZ> ompaul, yes
[12:41] <ompaul> PVZ, and here is where I hope against hope
[12:41] <PVZ> nickrud, it was -sw
[12:42] <ompaul> PVZ,  have you a seperate home partition
[12:42] <nickrud> PVZ, bad either way :)
[12:42] <outlawcrook> ok thus should be easy but i cant get it to work
[12:42] <PVZ> yes
[12:42] <nickrud> lol
[12:42] <outlawcrook> how can i get this to play a DVD
[12:42] <wasp_ems> hi...i have two problems..one is with konqueror that is crashing all the time and freezes..one error i get is it crashed and caused the signal 11(SIGSEGV)..ANY HELP?
[12:42] <esaulo> bueno como nadie quiere conversar hay luego
[12:42] <koroded> is there a quake3 deb for ubuntu?
[12:42] <esaulo> bye
[12:42] <stickys> poll.    what would be your prefered programing editor?  mainly for java coding.
[12:43] <PVZ> nickrud, bad either way,but differently bad :)
[12:43] <Seantater> How about kdevelop, or kate, or kwrite?
[12:43] <raptros-v76> netbeans for java. anjuta for c, c++. spe for python
[12:43] <ompaul> PVZ, okay you have a couple of options you could try to undo the damage with the reverse command but .... there is always that doubt in the back of ones mind that something gets permissions it should not have
[12:43] <Rhine> !tell rhine about Mp3
[12:44] <udk> !tell udk about Mp3
[12:44] <PVZ> ompaul, what if i login in recovery mode as root and simply do a chmod -R +sw?
[12:44] <udk> hah
[12:44] <ompaul> PVZ, so here is what I personally would do, boot 5.04 download a 5.10 install CD backup your /var/cache/apt/archive directory
[12:44] <outlawcrook> i have tried ogle and totem but still want plat dvd
[12:44] <outlawcrook> any idea what to do
[12:44] <raptros-v76> you need libdvdcss
[12:45] <PVZ> ompaul, i have the 5.10 install CD
[12:45] <ompaul> PVZ, burn it and try your luck with the command and then .. if not happy just install the OS
[12:45] <raptros-v76> !tell outlawcrook about libdvdcss
[12:45] <PVZ> ompaul, what is in the /var/cache/apt/archive directory?
[12:45] <ompaul> PVZ, there is always that one file that should have funny permissions - and it bites
[12:45] <Tonren> hey guys, how do I update a package that I've already installed?  amaroK 1.4 just came out .
[12:46] <ompaul> PVZ, this is a rather clean install (I had a disk blow up on me eariler today) so if you want I could ls -alR for you and you could do some mad stuff with a script
[12:46] <nickrud> Tonren, either find an unofficial deb, or build it from source
[12:46] <Abountu> !tell Abountu about kde
[12:47] <Tonren> nickrud:  There's no like... apt-get update or something?
[12:47] <MrRio> Tonren: you should wait for it to hit the repos, then it will be updated automagically
[12:47] <Tonren> MrRio: sounds like a plan
[12:47] <nickrud> Tonren, no. ubuntu is a 'stable' distro, and does not promise to run the latest & greatest.
[12:47] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everyone
[12:48] <MrRio> Chai_Sangeen: hi
[12:48] <PVZ> ompaul, er...i didn't understand it,i'm sorry[
[12:48] <Zeus`> quick question
[12:48] <SkimO> I am looking into trying out ubuntu, a couple of questions, shipped with gnome-pilot?  anyone tested syncing a livedrive with ubuntu? any notes about it..
[12:49] <ompaul> Tonren, a distro releases packages as a release - and keeps integrity by patching for security or in very very very rare cases replacing  the binary, that is why it is stable, so the it goes into development again and makes shiny a lot more stuff and does another release
[12:49] <Samuli^> Tonren, amarok 1.3.9 is the newest one for dapper
[12:49] <Tonren> Samuli^: Dapper doesn't support 1.4??
[12:49] <Samuli^> Tonren, It might come there later.
[12:49] <Zeus`> how come, whenver I boot up Ubuntu from power off, my internet doesnt work...like the router doesnt even recognize my computer as interacting with it....however, when I reboot into windows and then reboot into Ubuntu it works
[12:49] <Abountu> Skim0: I tried it a couple of times before moving last weekiend to ubuntu with dual boot
[12:49] <Zeus`> I think it has something to do ith Windows loading some driver which Ubuntu takes advantage of?
[12:50] <Samuli^> Tonren, to the backports anyways.
[12:50] <nickrud> Tonren, but don't count on it. But, someone will create an unofficial deb if ubuntu doesn't.
[12:50] <ompaul> PVZ, I can do ls -alR of /usr and you could do some kind of a script and make the permissions right on the box but more than likely faster to reinstall and patch if you have that seperate partition
[12:50] <SkimO> Abountu: what about the pilot-apps ?
[12:50] <ompaul> PVZ, for home
[12:50] <Abountu> Skim0: what's the "pilot-apps"?
[12:50] <ompaul> !info amrok dapper
[12:51] <ubuntu_> what package do I select in synaptic to give me the source to the kernel currently installed on my system?
[12:51] <PVZ> ompaul, I'd prefer if you did the ls -alR of /usr
[12:51] <SkimO> Abountu: the pilot-link suite and gnome-pilot integrated with Evolution, I want to sync my PDA with it
[12:51] <ompaul> !info amarok dapper
[12:51] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 7630 kB, Installed size: 18672 kB
[12:51] <ompaul> PVZ,  is there anything else?
[12:51] <nickrud> PVZ, but I guarantee you, ompaul would much rather you reinstalled :)
[12:51] <Zeus`> Whats the best audio player for Ubuntu?
[12:51] <Tonren> I'm confused.  If I just download the binaries on amaroK's site and install them, will it work?
[12:51] <Abountu> Skim0: I don't think  I can help about that... never done it
[12:51] <raptros-v76> Tonren: no
[12:51] <ompaul> Tonren, no
[12:52] <sybariten> anyone care to take a look at the end of the compiler log i just got? I think the compile failed but i am unsure, so i put it on pastebin
[12:52] <SkimO> anyone? Palm + ubuntu?
[12:52] <sybariten> and i cant exactly pinpoint the problem
[12:52] <Samuli^> raptros-v76, ompaul, Why not?
[12:52] <PVZ> ompaul, if that is a lot of work for you,I am totally comfortable with the reinstall
[12:52] <ompaul> glibc
[12:52] <Tonren> ompaul: raptros-v76: howcome..??
[12:52] <Samuli^> Mind you there's kde 3.5.2 repos for breezy.
[12:52] <ompaul> and other things
[12:52] <PVZ> ompaul, actually if that is any useless work for you,I will reinstall
[12:53] <sybariten> Zeus`: since no one else answered ....  i'd say xmms. Because i love winamp
[12:53] <ompaul> PVZ, its one command line for the box :-) your the one who has to use cut :-)
[12:53] <Samuli^> Zeus`, I like rhythmbox
[12:53] <PVZ> ompaul, ok
[12:53] <PVZ> let's do it then
[12:54] <raptros-v76> Tonren: it needs libs you might not have, because upgrades depend on more stuff, and the binary doesnt know that you have a debian based system
[12:54] <Zeus`> Which has the best sound quality?
[12:54] <Samuli^> raptros-v76, If you have kde 3.5.2 installed, don't you think you could easily compile amarok?
[12:54] <sybariten> Zeus`: very hard to measure for a layman.
[12:55] <JackHanna> hey guys is update broken for everyone because of gnome-app-install?
[12:55] <slfd2525> does anybody know the command for disabling the OEM account? I used the most recent OEM disk to install Dapper, but I don't remember the terminal command to disable the OEM account and enable end-user setup
[12:55] <ompaul> PVZ, is there any other directory you want?
[12:55] <JackHanna> I cant' find a fix for it
[12:55] <raptros-v76> Samuli^: compiling from source is fine
[12:55] <Samuli^> raptros-v76, wasn't that what he was asking for?
[12:55] <PVZ> ompaul, no,the only one i messed up is /usr
[12:55] <raptros-v76> Samuli^: he said the binary
[12:55] <ompaul> PVZ, you really choose the right one to play with :-)
[12:56] <Samuli^> Tonren, so there you have it. You can compile it from source.
[12:56] <JackHanna> is there any fix for this gnome-app-install problem?
[12:56] <JackHanna> I have this same problem http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=175416&highlight=gnome-app-install
[12:56] <ubuntu_> what package do I select in synaptic to give me the source to the kernel currently installed on my system?
[12:56] <Zeus`> sybariten: How exactly do I get equalizer presets?
[12:57] <PVZ> ompaul, the thing i like about ubuntu is that it's an adventure for newbies like me
[12:57] <gnomefreak> JackHanna: dapper?
[12:57] <JackHanna> yes gnome
[12:57] <slfd2525> does anybody know the command for disabling the OEM account? I used the most recent OEM disk to install Dapper, but I don't remember the terminal command to disable the OEM account and enable end-user setup
[12:57] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1 JackHanna please that is the dapper channel
[12:57] <Xappe> ubuntu_: linux-source-'uname -r' I guess
[12:57] <JackHanna> oh thanks
[12:57] <ompaul> PVZ, well let me say you will tell people in the future you reallly should not be looking to write to files you don't own :-)
[12:57] <PVZ> everything,even a language changing on gimp,can teach people many things :)
[12:58] <Samuli^> Xappe, that wouldn't work.
[12:58] <Xappe> Samuli^: no?
[12:58] <wasp_ems> how can i mount my network files..is it enough to make a link through url on my desktop?
[12:58] <PVZ> ompaul, now what should i do with the file you just sent me?
[12:59] <salah> unfo: still here?
[12:59] <MrRio> wasp_ems: Places > Connect to server
[12:59] <ompaul> PVZ if I had known you were a newcomer ohh dear ... let me make it easier for you to deal with
[12:59] <Zeus`> Are there any other xchat themes?
[12:59] <jamiejacksoncumb> can any one tell me how to set up account to login with out password please?
[01:00] <Xappe> Samuli^: ah, no indeed. that should be linux-source-<arch> right?
[01:00] <wasp_ems> MrRio: where is that?
[01:00] <MrRio> wasp_ems, at the top, next to Applications, your using gnome-based ubuntu right?
[01:00] <wasp_ems> no kde
[01:01] <MrRio> wasp_ems: ah ok, not sure then
[01:01] <MrRio> wasp_ems: you could try #kubuntu
[01:01] <kwah> hi! has anyone a clue when launchpad will be back online?
[01:02] <duckdown> Dapper is getting annoying.. Its requesting a reboot EVERY time I do the system updates
[01:02] <Samuli^> Xappe, no.. it's apt-get install source for source packages and then you need to have the switch to just download the packages (and not install them)
[01:02] <nickrud> jamiejacksoncumb, gksudo gdmsetup , select the security tab, and enable automatic login
[01:02] <Stormx2> duckdown: haha yeah
[01:02] <Stormx2> duckdown: Do your updates less regularly then ;-)
[01:02] <duckdown> Stormx2> Why the hell are they doing that
[01:02] <Stormx2> duckdown: it'll all be over in a couple of weeks
[01:02] <duckdown> I had Kubuntu Dapper before
[01:02] <duckdown> It NEVER asked for a reboot
[01:03] <nickrud> duckdown, usually because of a kernel or libc6 change
[01:03] <Stormx2> New kernel versions and stuff
[01:03] <duckdown> nickrud> But it's like every day now!
[01:03] <MrRio> i though it was something to do with Dbus
[01:03] <duckdown> :(
[01:03] <Stormx2> The kernel freeze is like, right now, GMT
[01:03] <ompaul> PVZ, it is midnight here and I am about to head to bed - what you can do is something like a massive find and replace on it using tools like sed - but I am about to split you could do what was suggested but there are gotchas -, for the few minutes of a reinstall you would be a lot safer
[01:03] <nickrud> duckdown, you one of those anal uptime dudes then ;)
[01:03] <MrRio> restarting dbus takes down a load of apps
[01:03] <Samuli^> duckdown, would you prefer to be without the updates?
[01:03] <apokryphos> duckdown: "requesting reboot"?
[01:03] <Stormx2> May 18th, they don't update the kernel anymore
[01:03] <PVZ> ompaul, where do you live?
[01:03] <duckdown> nickrud> Not neccessarily, but man, I don't like having to keep rebooting every day :(
[01:04] <Stormx2> England!
[01:04] <jack> any apt expert alive? i'm wondering how to setup+maintain a repo..google isnt helpful so far :x
[01:04] <jamiejacksoncumb> nickrud I am running direqcafe and this makes account without passwords when i click on the username it ask for a pword
[01:04] <Xappe> Samuli^: hmm, but there are binary packages that put the source as a tar.bz2 in /usr/src
[01:04] <duckdown> Samuli^> No, I'd prefer it to let you reboot at your own pace instead of putting an annoying icon and popup in the top right saying A reboot is needed
[01:04] <Stormx2> No he lives in ireland
[01:04] <mzuverink> How do you create a maildir and what package(s) are required to do so?
[01:04] <PVZ> ireland?
[01:04] <duckdown> apokryphos> Yes, its requesting a reboot.
[01:04] <PVZ> nice,i'm from brazil
[01:04] <nickrud> jamiejacksoncumb, ah, then don't listen to me, I only run a single machine. search for kiosk on the wiki for a start
[01:04] <apokryphos> duckdown: you only really need to ever reboot if you want to change your kernel
[01:04] <Xappe> Samuli^: linux-source-2.6.15 in dapper for example
[01:04] <Samuli^> duckdown, it only pop-ups once just after the update dude.
[01:04] <PVZ> anyway ompaul, thank you and good night
[01:05] <ompaul> PVZ then you would have to move the data about to become a script that you could execute and it would visit each and every file
[01:05] <apokryphos> duckdown: I presume it means to try your new kernel, you have to reboot.
[01:05] <Samuli^> Xappe, o-kay.
[01:05] <jamiejacksoncumb> thanks ill try
[01:05] <apokryphos> (which is obvious)
[01:05] <duckdown> I see :(
[01:05] <duckdown> How many times does kernel 2.6.whatever need to be released
[01:05] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par
[01:05] <Stormx2> duckdown: Dude, like I said, kernel freeze today
[01:05] <duckdown> every other day it turns into 2.6.18-5
[01:05] <apokryphos> duckdown: it's not bad considering it's in theory the ONLY time you have to ever reboot. Unlike Windoze.
[01:05] <duckdown> then 2.6.18-6
[01:05] <Stormx2> duckdown: They stop modding it today
[01:05] <apokryphos> duckdown: why are you upgrading every other day?
[01:05] <outlawcrook> how do u open/install a .deb file
[01:05] <Samuli^> duckdowb, as many as needed to get it right :)
[01:05] <duckdown> Stormx2> cool, thanks.
[01:06] <apokryphos> duckdown: and why are you mentioning this in this channel? :)
[01:06] <Stormx2> outlawcrook: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:06] <duckdown> apokryphos> I'm just voicing my opnion... is that not allowed?
[01:06] <outlawcrook> thanks
[01:06] <duckdown> :(
[01:06] <Stormx2> In soviet russia, opinion voices you!
[01:06] <apokryphos> duckdown: you're in the wrong channel for dapper talk; this channel is for breezy talk.
[01:06] <duckdown> Stormx2> LOL :D
[01:06] <Zeus`> !automatix
[01:06] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[01:06] <duckdown> !dapper
[01:06] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[01:06] <Zeus`> !easyubuntu
[01:06] <ubotu> it has been said that easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[01:07] <Samuli^> duckdown, but yeah, constant rebooting is getting annoying. We just need to understand that it is necessary and we _are_ using beta-software.
[01:07] <ste> Hello. I'm trying to get networking working in the latest ubuntu, running on a Toshiba Tecra 750CDM laptop. From looking at the dmesg output, and poking around on the net, I've added 'acpi=off', 'pci=usepirqmask' and 'pci=biosirq', which has cleaned up issues seen in dmesg. However, the system keeps seeing the network card as wanting IRQ 0, and is unable to reserve it. I don't know if that's the entire reason the networking isn
[01:07] <Stormx2> So what happens to the breezy people on June 1st. Do they get a notice like "btw ur system sux"
[01:07] <Stormx2> hail the xbox guru
[01:07] <ompaul> jack, there is something on the wiki on how to maintain a mirror, its rather easy, was written by Mr Karl Gotez jack, there is something on the wiki on how to maintain a mirror, its rather easy - you need to hack (A) the repo you want to mirror (B) the directory you want to put it in locally and that will be the be all and end all
[01:07] <Stormx2> o.O
[01:07] <nickrud> Stormx2, no, they have a year's support left
[01:07] <Stormx2> Im so tired
[01:08] <apokryphos> Stormx2: no :P. Breezy gets support for another 18 months
[01:08] <swissbear> hi
[01:08] <Samuli^> Stormx2, they get a chan #lesser-ubuntu
[01:08] <Samuli^> ;)
[01:08] <nickrud> rflmao
[01:08] <Stormx2> Yeah
[01:08] <ompaul> Stormx2, it shows sleep dude :)
[01:08] <Stormx2> I joined #ubuntu-1 the other day
[01:08] <RandolphCarter> heh, #ubuntu-1, then I'm sure we've got a complete proof by induction
[01:08] <apokryphos> hoary questions are still perfectly valid in here
[01:08] <Stormx2> gave me op, and a tonne of people joined and were like "awww...."
[01:08] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par
[01:08] <swissbear> I would like to know how instal kde on ubuntu
[01:08] <nickrud> RandolphCarter, that is so good, it should be
[01:09] <apokryphos> swissbear: /msg ubotu kde
[01:09] <Stormx2> swissbear: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <jamiejacksoncumb> sudo apt-get install kde
[01:09] <nickrud> swissbear, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <Stormx2> No
[01:09] <Xbox_guru> hi, when I try to start up bittorrent it asks me where the meta file is., what should I do
[01:09] <Stormx2> jamiejacksoncumb is lie and a cheat
[01:09] <duckdown> Samuli^> Fair enough :)
[01:09] <nickrud> jamiejacksoncumb, that's a holdover from debian's repos, don't recommend it
[01:09] <Stormx2> Xbox_guru: Its looking for a .torrent file
[01:09] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: give it what it wants :) (meta == .torrent afaik)
[01:09] <swissbear> thank you
[01:09] <apokryphos> jamiejacksoncumb: it's a method, but not the recommended one.
[01:09] <jamiejacksoncumb> download a torrent file and it will run
[01:09] <Xbox_guru> ohh ok,
[01:09] <Stormx2> swissbear: make sure you use this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop NOT kde
[01:10] <Samuli^> Stormx2, why not kde?
[01:10] <Samuli^> or kde-core for that matter.
[01:10] <Stormx2> Samuli^: Read up ^
[01:10] <Samuli^> and better to use aptitude btw.
[01:10] <Stormx2> apokryphos and nickrud explained
[01:10] <|voms|> seesseesse
[01:10] <Stormx2> Don't question my package management biatch
[01:10] <Samuli^> Not all people want _all_ the stuff.
[01:10] <apokryphos> Samuli^: "kde" and "kde-core" are metapackages that don't carry the recommended kubuntu kde packages. They're good for more minimal/customized installs
[01:11] <ompaul> Samuli^, the whole thing is packaged nicely in ubuntu with a meta package - kubuntu-desktop like in ubuntu its not gnome is ubuntu-desktop and so on
[01:11] <nickrud> Samuli^, a point.
[01:11] <Samuli^> it's good to know there a alternatives.
[01:11] <Xbox_guru> which java version should I run, sun's or blacks?
[01:11] <Samuli^> a=are
[01:11] <apokryphos> Samuli^: kubuntu.org/wiki/InstallingKDE explains all
[01:11] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: sun's, if you're running dapper it's in the repositories now
[01:11] <apokryphos> or w.k.o/InstallingKDE even
[01:11] <ste> <----waiting for an acknowledgement of my networking question ...
[01:11] <|voms|> vui parlat ingles?
[01:11] <|voms|> :D
[01:12] <Xbox_guru> I'm running breezy
[01:12] <apokryphos> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE
[01:12] <richiefrich> ste,  ?
[01:12] <|voms|> sesesese
[01:12] <|voms|> usat a ubond?
[01:12] <Stormx2> Right folks, night night!
[01:12] <richiefrich> ste,  i didnt see your question
[01:12] <nickrud> ste, I can't answer, but I'd recommend repeating the whole question about every ten minutes
[01:12] <apokryphos> |voms|: English only in here, please.
[01:12] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: you'll have to follow the restricted formats guide :)
[01:12] <Zeus`> how come, whenver I boot up Ubuntu from power off, my internet doesnt work...like the router doesnt even recognize my computer as interacting with it....however, when I reboot into windows and then reboot into Ubuntu it works
[01:12] <ste> it was large, could you scroll up, so I don't have to retype it?
[01:12] <Zeus`> I think it has something to do ith Windows loading some driver which Ubuntu takes advantage of?
[01:12] <mekanzoo> question: any good internet monthly usage monitor?
[01:12] <swissbear> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/),
[01:13] <Samuli^> Stormx2, "Don't question my package management biatch" <-- what are you going to do if you decide you didn't quite ike that kde?
[01:13] <swissbear> ?
[01:13] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: windows?
[01:13] <nickrud> ste, cut & paste :)
[01:13] <Xbox_guru> randolph, I did, but the plugin isn't in firefox, how do I add it
[01:13] <apokryphos> swissbear: you're not sudo
[01:13] <apokryphos> mekanzoo: I use knemo which is a decent-ish kde monitor
[01:13] <RandolphCarter> Zeus`: I think that may be something to do with Windows not releasing DHCP addresses properly
 |voms|: English only in here, please. I speak only taleban
[01:13] <|voms|> :D
[01:13] <Stormx2> apokryphos: I bet he's just speaking some nonsense to try and make us try and figure out what language he is using and use !es or whatever... its all a mind ploy
[01:13] <apokryphos> mekanzoo: doesn't record monthly though, only per-session.
[01:13] <swissbear> what sudo means?
[01:13] <ste> Hello. I'm trying to get networking working in the latest ubuntu, running on a Toshiba Tecra 750CDM laptop. From looking at the dmesg output, and poking around on the net, I've added 'acpi=off', 'pci=usepirqmask' and 'pci=biosirq', which has cleaned up issues seen in dmesg. However, the system keeps seeing the network card as wanting IRQ 0, and is unable to reserve it. I don't know if that's the entire reason the networking isn
[01:13] <ste> there.
[01:13] <ste> :)
[01:13] <mekanzoo> apokryphos: is it compatible with gnome?
[01:13] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par
[01:13] <richiefrich> ste, free up the irq
[01:13] <Stormx2> Samuli^: Uninstall qt3 like I did last time?
[01:13] <apokryphos> mekanzoo: yes, of course, as are all KDE applications.
[01:13] <richiefrich> ste,  and retry
[01:14] <Samuli^> Stormx2, that's gonna get you rid all the packages.
[01:14] <ste> it shouldn't be wanting 0 in the first place
[01:14] <ompaul> !tell swissbear about sudo
[01:14] <pvd2006> I can only view my true resolution at 60hz, when I select anything higher than 60hz it makes everything really big. I went to the fixscreenres page and it didnt help
[01:14] <jamiejacksoncumb> how can you make users with know passwords?
[01:14] <mekanzoo> oh ok.. thank you...
[01:14] <Samuli^> with aptitude you can just "sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop"
[01:14] <mogydy> hello
[01:14] <Zeus`> Rudemeister: When I turn my computer off, go to sleep then wake up, and boot straight into Ubuntu, Idont have internet access and my router's (number 1 light) isnt on, meaning it doest recoginize my computer. However, I then reboot into windows, which I then get online automatically, then reboot into Ubuntu, and I can then use the internet
[01:14] <Technel> I have used Windows forever and Linux just for hosting test/development servers. I would like to use Ubuntu Linux for my desktop enviroment as well as for development. My problem is that on Windows I use Windows Media Player 10. I really like it because it has a nice, graphical interface that lets me sort by song title, artist, lets me rate songs, has auto play-lists (e.g. "songs never listened to", "songs commonly listened to at
[01:14] <Technel> night", "songs rated 4 or 5 stars", etc). Is there anything comprable in Linux?
[01:14] <Stormx2> Samuli^: It won't remove it's dependancies though.
[01:14] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: I can't remember the path, but it puts a plugin into /usr/lib/java*/plugin somewhere
[01:14] <Samuli^> Stormx2, it will.
[01:14] <richiefrich> ste,  the IRQ u can free up in bios, but thats not your sissue
[01:14] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: you can link that to your .mozilla plugin directory, or to the system-wide one, your call
[01:14] <Mysta_> hello, if I install linux-686-smp, and it does not work properly (which it didn't the 1st time) I should still be able to load the 386 kernel right???
[01:14] <mogydy> i need help installing zd1211 on my drapper drake
[01:15] <nickrud> pvd2006, did you define your monitor refresh rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf under Section "Monitor"
[01:15] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: (u)pnp thingy?
[01:15] <raptros-v76> Technel: amarok, rhythmbox, anything. look around
[01:15] <|voms|> you are english o american?
[01:15] <mogydy> i need help installing zd1211 on my drapper drake
[01:15] <Stormx2> Samuli^: Imagine if a trivial package depended on libc and aptitude uninstalled that. That would be silly
[01:15] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: yes, from the boot menu
[01:15] <Xbox_guru> randolph: how do I do that?
[01:15] <richiefrich> ste,  what do u get when you do --> ifconfig -a
[01:15] <mekanzoo> so, whats the best way to monitor montly internet usage?
[01:15] <Mysta_>  RandolphCarter: thanks
[01:15] <Xbox_guru> randolph, i'm new to linux
[01:15] <ste> let me boot up and I'll tell you
[01:15] <Samuli^> Stormx2, trivial?
[01:15] <Zeus`> what do you mean Rudemeister
[01:15] <richiefrich> ste,  do u see your eth0 or just lo
[01:15] <richiefrich> ste, ok
[01:15] <outlawcrook> i got an error when i tried to install the libdvdcss file
[01:15] <pvd2006> nickrud: yes I put HorizSync  30-70 VertRefresh 50-160
[01:15] <stpere> what software can I use to create an animated gif?
[01:15] <Stormx2> Samuli^: non-essential.
[01:15] <richiefrich> outlawcrook, what fails
[01:16] <ste> as I recall, both, but let me verify d=for sure
[01:16] <sarixe> in dapper amd64, is there ANY flash or java plugin natively compatible with firefox?
[01:16] <crazy_penguin> 'night all
[01:16] <ste> er 'verify for sure'
[01:16] <Stormx2> night crazy_penguin
[01:16] <apokryphos> sarixe: no
[01:16] <Technel> raptros-v76, Thanks
[01:16] <Samuli^> Stormx2, well anyways, if you decide to remove kde you probably want all of it gone and aptitude pretty much does just that.
[01:16] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: that perhaps your router talks with a Windows thingy before being able to do it's thing?
[01:16] <apokryphos> sarixe: ubuntu is not BiArch unfortunately
[01:16] <outlawcrook> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libdvdcss2-dev:
[01:16] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: once you've found it, ln -s *plugin-name* /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[01:16] <pvd2006> then I hit cntrl + alt + bckspce to restart X
[01:16] <richiefrich> ste, if u get both then it's a config error
[01:16] <Mysta_>  RandolphCarter: do you know much about linux-686-smp package?
[01:16] <Stormx2> Samuli^: So does apt-get remove qt3
[01:16] <sarixe> apokryphos: ?
[01:16] <RandolphCarter> Xbox_guru: there may be a more complete guide to this on the forums :)
[01:16] <RamnathRemcon> Hey guys
[01:16] <Zeus`> Well how on earth can I remedy that?
[01:16] <outlawcrook>  libdvdcss2-dev depends on libdvdcss2 (= 1.2.9-1); however:
[01:16] <outlawcrook>   Package libdvdcss2 is not installed
[01:16] <Stormx2> Must go, cya.
[01:16] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: sure, what's up?
[01:16] <nickrud> pvd2006, odd then. Could you put both /etc/X11/xorg.conf & /var/log/Xorg.0.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[01:16] <Mysta_> hello ramnath
[01:16] <Xbox_guru> randolph, ok thanks
[01:16] <pvd2006> sure.
[01:16] <Samuli^> Stormx2, it doesn't. there's still all kde-packages that don't depend on qt3 left.
[01:17] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: please do use highlighting
[01:17] <|voms|> vabbu' facetva speng gul da nu monc sord
[01:17] <|voms|> ;)
[01:17] <Zeus`> what do you mean Rudemeister ?
[01:17] <Rudemeister> Zeus`: dunno, dont know what type router etc
[01:17] <Mysta_>  RandolphCarter: to save some time, i have a thread in the forums you want to read that real quick. totally up to you
[01:17] <|voms|> hi at all
[01:17] <Zeus`> Dlink 624
[01:17] <apokryphos> |voms|: once again: English only in here
[01:17] <ste> I haven't config'd anything. RedHat, Fedora work on this laptop with no configuring needed to get networking working
[01:17] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: sure, could you paste the link?
[01:17] <RamnathRemcon> I need to unrar a file but it doesn't want to unrar
[01:18] <sarixe> apokyphos: i have blackdown java 1.4, and it works... but ff crashes every time i load a java applet... like 5 seconds after it starts running
[01:18] <Mysta_> RandolphCarter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177753
[01:18] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: thanks, reading it now
[01:18] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par%C4
[01:18] <matsur> "dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1' with  different file `/usr/lib32/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa', not allowed" what does this mean and how do i fix it? trying to install dapper
[01:18] <Mysta_> no thank you!
[01:18] <nickrud> pvd2006, you running dapper?
[01:18] <apokryphos> sarixe: getting sun java packs built on amd64 isn't a problem, but there'll be no flash for you.
[01:18] <cusco> echo 1
[01:18] <apokryphos> neither of them come in an ubuntu installation, of course
[01:19] <apokryphos> cusco: failed
[01:19] <nickrud> matsur, ask on #ubuntu+1 please
[01:19] <cusco> + 1
[01:19] <pvd2006> nickrud, yes had same problem with breezy though
[01:19] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: what graphics card do you have, and which driver are you telling X to use? (also, if possible, could you paste 50 or so lines from around when the problem happens in dmesg)
[01:19] <RamnathRemcon> the command to unrar something is unrar x (file name).rar right?
[01:19] <cusco> sorry
[01:19] <sarixe> apokryphos: i noticed... but the blackdown seems to work... and i caught the output of ff when it crashed... said 'segmentation fault'
[01:19] <pvd2006> let me get those paste bined real quick
[01:19] <ste> almost booted ...
[01:19] <apokryphos> RamnathRemcon: sure
[01:19] <nickrud> pvd2006, yeah, it's the same both places, really.
[01:19] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: paste to the forum, btw :)
[01:20] <RamnathRemcon> but it says command not found
[01:20] <apokryphos> sarixe: might be worth creating a bug report with the debug output
[01:20] <apokryphos> RamnathRemcon: have you got unrar-nonfree installed?
[01:20] <RamnathRemcon> i guess not
[01:20] <ste> logging in ...
[01:20] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: nice spec on that box too, btw
[01:20] <RamnathRemcon> apt-get unrar-nonfree then?
[01:20] <sarixe> apokryphos: but it just ends.  it doesn't freeze or anything, the window just disappears and it ENDS
[01:20] <pingveno> How would I set up my computer to use multiple SSID's?
[01:20] <apokryphos> sarixe: in my experience blackdown pretty much sucks though :P
[01:21] <hikenboot> hello all---I just upgraded to hoary and am trying to setup a very simple ftp server for sharing with my windows clients here at my house .I installed webmin but when i ftp localhost..or from any host i get access is denied i have added /etc/hosts.allow and left /hosts.deny blank and have added an anonymous ftp to webmin and it should be working with ftppro...any ideas
[01:21] <apokryphos> yes, it's a little lame
[01:21] <jamiejacksoncumb> anyone know how to set up password free users
[01:21] <apokryphos> RamnathRemcon: apt-get install, yes.
[01:21] <RamnathRemcon> ok thanks
[01:21] <sarixe> apokryphos: ... i guess... but there's no other solution?
[01:21] <apokryphos> sarixe: installing sun-java, yes.
[01:21] <apokryphos> no free software solution just yet, unfortunately.
[01:21] <sarixe> apokryphos: but it doesn't have a plugin
[01:21] <hikenboot> also telnet is the same
[01:22] <apokryphos> sarixe: pretty sure it does. Have you checked /msg ubotu java?
[01:22] <sarixe> apokryphos: no
[01:22] <apokryphos> might not though, my memory is fading
[01:22] <RandolphCarter> pingveno: if you want to use any essid, you can just do 'iwconfig *interface* essid any'
[01:22] <mel> I'm having a strange sound problem.  It works, but only for one user.
[01:23] <hikenboot> and even ssh gives the same connection refused...is selinux enabled by default in hoary or somthing?
[01:23] <mel> If I log out I get sound, if I log in as the default user I get sound, but if I log in as a user I added, no sound
[01:23] <ste> I see eth0 in the ifconfig output
[01:23] <RandolphCarter> hikenboot: no, but ssh, ftp and telnet servers are not run by default
[01:23] <sarixe> apokryphos: i already tried sun java anyway... and it doesn't come with a plugin.
[01:24] <hikenboot> Randolph so doing an apt-get install  doesnt turn them on? How would i enable them got a doc on it?
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> ahh, if you've done that, yes, it should
[01:24] <bignose_> 5.11 is the new stable right ?
[01:24] <pvd2006> nickrud: I dont have  /var/log/Xorg.0.conf
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> if you've changed the config files, you'll need to do /etc/init.d/*servicename* restart
[01:25] <Mysta_> randolph: Can I find my video card manufacturer inside ubuntu?.  I'm not sure I understand the second half of your request. regarding pasting 50 lines....
[01:25] <pvd2006> nickrud: here is my xorg.conf though http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14193
[01:25] <nickrud> pvd2006, if you have a running X , you should have /var/log/Xorg.something.conf
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: yeah, could you paste the results of 'lspci' and 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' to the forum?
[01:25] <nickrud> pvd2006, erm. /var/log/Xorg.0.log :)
[01:25] <slfd2525> does anybody know what the terminal command is to end OEM setup and continue in end-user setup? i know it's something like sudo oem-configure something, but i don't remember the last par
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: don't worry about the dmesg, it's kind of tricky if you're not certain what you're looking for
[01:26] <swissbear> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:26] <swissbear>  what should I do?
[01:26] <pvd2006> nickrud: found it
[01:26] <Mysta_> randolph: I've reloaded the OS since these problems came about
[01:26] <apokryphos> swissbear: close synaptic
[01:26] <Mysta_> should I recreate the problem?
[01:26] <swissbear> !! of course
[01:26] <ubotu> swissbear: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: ah, if it's not hapenning, I wouldn't worry too much
[01:26] <slfd2525> swissbear, make sure you're not using any other package manager or downloading any package
[01:26] <swissbear> thanks
[01:26] <ste> richiefrich: I see eth0 in my ifconfig output ...
[01:26] <mekanzoo> Question: how do I install kNemo in gnome?
[01:26] <mel> anybody ever have a sound problem like that?
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: my guess is a graphics card driver was causing it (that's usually the case), but no point in breaking a good box
[01:26] <mel> where one user has sound
[01:26] <mel> and another doesn't
[01:27] <pvd2006> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14194 is my xorg log file
[01:27] <zack> i just installed ubuntu on my other pc, but its needs a video driver. i know the driver is the nvidia glx driver. how do i install it from recovery mode?
[01:27] <Mysta_> randolph: my goal is to load the 686 kernel as I have dual processors
[01:27] <richiefrich> ste, then u need to configure it
[01:27] <Mysta_> should I not?
[01:27] <richiefrich> ste,  let me get u the cmd
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: yes :) try installing 686-smp and see if you get the same problem
[01:27] <slfd2525> zack: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:27] <ste> eth0 is trying to reserve irq 0
[01:27] <Mysta_> randolph - kk, brb
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: but before you do, could you paste 'lspci' and 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' to the forum
[01:27] <slfd2525> make sure all repositories are selected
[01:27] <ste> it should use something else
[01:27] <Mysta_> sure
[01:27] <Mysta_> one sec
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> thanks :)
[01:28] <kbrooks> who can i email for corerctions to tthe ubuntu faq?
[01:28] <hikenboot> RandolphCarter, I thought the purpose of webmin and ftppro combination was so that these settings could be managed thru a web interface?
[01:29] <wims> is it possible to uninstall python v2.4 and install v2.3 ?
[01:29] <zack> thanks!
[01:29] <wims> does anybody know if v2.4 is 100% compatible with v2.3
[01:29] <nickrud> pvd2006, ok, according to your Xorg.0.log, 1280x1024 is max 60 hz, and xorg.conf has that as the preferred mode.
[01:29] <madewokherd`> wims: you can install both at once
[01:29] <RandolphCarter> hikenboot: I've honestly never used webmin, I'm just trying to make sure you can connect to these services
[01:29] <dli> wims, no :( it's not recommended to tweak package version, unless you know what you are doing
[01:29] <Sanne> wims, you can even have both pythons installed
[01:29] <kbrooks> dli: he isnt doing that?
[01:30] <richiefrich> ste,  ok in the shell/terminal whatever u call itk
[01:30] <dli> kbrooks, he wants to uninstall python2.4
[01:30] <ste> yes
[01:30] <pvd2006> nickrud: does that mean I cant go higher than 60hz?
[01:30] <richiefrich> ste,  do this -->  ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:30] <madewokherd`> uninstalling python2.4 means uninstalling anything that depends on it
[01:30] <madewokherd`> that's not really a problem, but there are probably a lot of things
[01:30] <kbrooks> dli: THAT IS not ttweaking "package version". that is uninstalling
[01:30] <richiefrich> ste, whats it tell you? any errors?
[01:30] <pvd2006> nickrud: because I was running that under windows with a higher refresh rate
[01:31] <ste> I know how to configure an interface. :) I'm concerned that it keeps trying to reserve irq0 when it should be using something else
[01:31] <nickrud> pvd2006, then possibly you could change the refresh rates. Have you searched the internet for your monitor, and gotten the manufacturer's specs?
[01:31] <biblioteca> jhg
[01:32] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: thanks, checking the post
[01:32] <mel> I'm having a strange sound problem.  My sound  works, but only for one user.
[01:32] <biblioteca> que onda
[01:32] <kbrooks> dli: hm?
[01:32] <ste> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy
[01:32] <kbrooks> dli: are you online?
[01:32] <kbrooks> dli: y or n
[01:33] <biblioteca> yo?
[01:33] <nickrud> biblioteca, portuguese or espanol?
[01:33] <biblioteca> espaol
[01:33] <dli> kbrooks, yes
[01:33] <nickrud> !es
[01:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:34] <Xbox_guru> when i try to install the java firefox plugin from synaptic package manager, I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14195
[01:34] <ste> richiefrich: although it gave me that error, it did configure it. Why isn't it configuring via dhcp?
[01:34] <Mysta_> Randolph: I'm not familar w/ the lspci command, what switch goes along w/ that?
[01:34] <richiefrich> ste,  idk
[01:34] <Sanne> mel, I believe the users need to be in the audio group to be able to use sound.
[01:34] <ste> I have no default route or dns setup yet, either
[01:34] <richiefrich> ste i dont use dhcp
[01:35] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: shouldn't need any, just lspci
[01:35] <mel> Sanne: thank you just fixed it !
[01:35] <mel> :)
[01:35] <ste> Well, other linuxes I've installed on this do it just fine
[01:35] <RandolphCarter> should dump a bunch of ID/type/name lines
[01:35] <dli> ste, do you know your gateway?
[01:35] <ste> yes
[01:35] <ste> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:35] <Sanne> mel, was I right about the reason, or did you do something else?
[01:35] <james_xxx> is there
[01:35] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, you should be able to install that no problem, it's in main. Did you do something to your sources recently?
[01:35] <dli> ste, add it in your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:36] <james_xxx> is there anyone in here who is experienced with installing xubuntu?
[01:36] <Mysta_>  Randolph: I did lspci /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and all i get back is a list of available switches :-?
[01:36] <ste> My point is I want it to work via dhcp. I do not want to have to manually reconfigure it as I move from one met to another
[01:36] <Xbox_guru> nickrud, my java sources
[01:36] <RandolphCarter> ahh, no, just 'lspci' on its own (without xorg.conf)
[01:36] <Mysta_> oh ok
[01:36] <wims> james_xxx,  i think it would be better if you state your problems than asking for experienced installers
[01:37] <Mysta_> lol
[01:37] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, hm. could you post your current /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:37] <james_xxx> i am attempting to install xubuntu right now, but i am being told that there are unmet dependencies/broken packages
[01:37] <RandolphCarter> ste: does adding 'auto eth0' 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' to your /etc/network/interfaces file not work?
[01:37] <dli> ste, yes, /etc/network/interfaces for auto
[01:37] <pvd2006> in firefox I notice that some file types automatically open external mplayer instead of mplayer-plugin how can you disassociate mplayer external player from firefox
[01:38] <Doxedon> hi
[01:38] <james_xxx> among the unmet dependencies is xfce4..... that sucks
[01:38] <ste> No, I have not tried that. Again, why do I have to configure anything? Other linuxes do this all on their own with no intervention needed from me at all.
[01:38] <Mysta_>  Randolph: ok we're good to go. I'm learning!
[01:38] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: thanks :)
[01:38] <nickrud> james_xxx, you need to enable the universe repo to get xfce4
[01:38] <Doxedon> im running the LIVE CD version of Ubuntu, but I get a black screen at the end of scanning/creating new user etc., how do I get the graphical interface to load?
[01:38] <nickrud> !repos
[01:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:38] <ste> I looked and those entries are in there already
[01:39] <james_xxx> nickrud, i DID enable universe
[01:39] <ste> both entries are already there
[01:39] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: have you installed the 686-smp package, and is it hapenning again?
[01:39] <nickrud> james_xxx, did you do sudo aptitude update ? if so, apt-cache policy xfce4 should say there's a version available
[01:39] <jonah> hey can anyone help me set up pcmcia wireless with ralink chipset. i followed the instructions on ubuntu site but none of them seem to work. my card isn't listed out of the box
[01:39] <james_xxx> nickrud, i will try that right now
[01:40] <Xbox_guru> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14196
[01:40] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: I think I know what the problem is, but there's no point in trying to fix it before we can duplicate it :)
[01:41] <dli> jonah, do you get pcmcia? lspci
[01:41] <jonah> dli, you mean if i type lspci? i don't seem to get anything with that at terminal
[01:41] <Mysta_>  Randolph: ok sounds good. I'll go load the linux-686-smp
[01:41] <Tonren> hey guys, where do the X includes live in dapper?
[01:41] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, line 1, add a # to the beginning. Lines 10, 11, remove the # from the beginning, then sudo aptitude update
[01:42] <jonah> dli, hang on yeah i do, sorry
[01:42] <jonah> dli, i get a lot of entries of things, what should i look for?
[01:42] <dli> jonah, and you see the card in lspci?
[01:42] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: thanks, I'm gonna make a cup of tea in the meantime :)
[01:42] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, also lines 5 & 6, remove the #
[01:42] <Mysta_> ok
[01:43] <nickrud> Xbox_guru, and looking further, remove the # from 33 & 34
[01:43] <apathy> hello all
[01:43] <jonah> dli, can see a  lot of entries, ethernet, pci, usb, vga, isa, smbus, etc
[01:44] <apathy> anyone here know what they are doing? haha
[01:44] <jonah> dli, i think it might be 0000:02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controlle r (rev 02)
[01:44] <jonah> ??
[01:44] <dli> jonah, read carefully, figure out whether your wireless card is there
[01:44] <Tonren> 'sup apathy
[01:44] <apathy> hi
[01:44] <james_xxx> nickrud, i did sudo aptitude update...  and then tried again to install xubuntu, but i had the same problem as before, i.e. 'unmet dependencies'
[01:44] <RandolphCarter> apathy: kinda, but I'm only in #ubuntu so I can avoid doing it :)
[01:44] <dli> jonah, that's the controller, you need to get the driver for it
[01:44] <sybariten> there is some kind of tool that can watch what tools i compile and install
[01:44] <sybariten> anyone know the name ?
[01:45] <nickrud> james_xxx, I'm gonna suggest you go to easysources. After looking at Xbox_guru
[01:45] <ramonsa> ubotu Sorry to say, but I was in contact with soundray about 6 hours ago and I managed to mess my X environment. Can you help me?
[01:45] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, ramonsa
[01:45] <apathy> im just too new to get ubuntu, but not so new as I dont know where to ask fro help heh
[01:45] <nickrud> 's sources, once again I remember how much I hate the default ubuntu sources.
[01:45] <james_xxx> nickrud, how do i do that?
[01:45] <nickrud> !easysource
[01:45] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:45] <jonah> dli, well it's listed as ralink chipset on their website, which apparently should just work? but it doesn't! do i need the ralink thing installing?
[01:45] <Tonren> Hey everyone, where do the X includes live on Ubuntu?
[01:46] <Mysta_> Randolph: one thing before though. I read another thread that stated that I shouldn't install the linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp or linux-image-686-smp packages (it said anything w/ image in it). How do you feel about that
[01:46] <sybariten> anyone?  it keeps track of whats installed, sort of like apt-get does .....
[01:46] <apathy> when someone knowledgeable has a moment, I have a few questions...
[01:46] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: you can install the 'xorg-dev' package
[01:46] <bimberi> !xincludes
[01:46] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[01:46] <Tonren> apathy: I might be able to help you out.  just ask away
[01:46] <ramonsa> I contacted IRC for help with blurring of my video image when running some programs and soundray was helful to seggest problem probably had to do with video resolution. I messed my X environ
[01:47] <Tonren> bimberi: RandolphCarter: thanks!
[01:47] <apathy> I have an ati 9000 video card for this box and I have NO IDEA whatsoever how to use synaptic beyond point and click haha
[01:47] <jonah> dli, it's a sweex LC500070 if that helps...
[01:47] <dli> jonah, get pcmcia first, http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/doc/PCMCIA-HOWTO.html
[01:47] <Technel> .
[01:47] <Tonren> apathy: ahh.  video card stuff... i haven't had to deal with any of that.  sorry
[01:48] <apathy> just need to know what package to get off synaptic
[01:48] <nickrud> !tell apathy about ati
[01:48] <jonah> dli, ok thanks, will you help me out with this? thanks a lot if you can
[01:48] <james_xxx> nickrud, where it says 'replace KEY with the key ID', what does that mean?
[01:48] <Tonren> bimberi: RandolphCarter: should I get xorg-dev AND xlibs-dev?
[01:48] <Samuli^> apathy, xorg-driver-fglrx is the ati-driver.
[01:48] <apathy> ?
[01:48] <nickrud> apathy, you should have a pm with a link for ati
[01:48] <Mysta_> !tell apathy about vesa
[01:48] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: that depends - do you want to build software yourself, or are you trying to build another package?
[01:48] <apathy> sweet tyvm
[01:48] <RandolphCarter> (write software yourself, my bad)
[01:49] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: I'm building someone else's source
[01:49] <apathy> afk a few min while i divulge infos
[01:49] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: probably just xlibs-dev then :)
[01:49] <dli> jonah, read the howto first, "sudo apt-get install pcmcia-cs"
[01:49] <Mysta_> Randolph u may of missed my last question?
[01:49] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: k, thanks.  What's the difference?  does xorg-dev have the actual symbols and classes in it and stuff?
[01:49] <nickrud> james_xxx, you can skip that part, it's for the stuff where it says, NOT and NOT over and over again :)
[01:49] <Kyral> anyone else in #debian right now? And watching the flamewar in the making? :P
[01:50] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: xorg-dev's a metapackage with most of the dependencies you'd need to write, learn about and debug X software
[01:50] <Samuli^> Kyral, I am now.
[01:50] <Tonren> i gotcha.
[01:50] <nickrud> me too
[01:50] <Kyral> Jeez, I didn't mean "Join #debian!"
[01:50] <RandolphCarter> anyone else noticed the forums are kind of slow?
[01:50] <jonah> dli, it says it's already installed - the newest version
[01:50] <Samuli^> Kyral, me knows :)
[01:51] <Samuli^> kyral, I'm just bored.
[01:51] <RandolphCarter> Kyral: saying "there's a flamewar in debian" is like saying "there's a point of order" in the commons - guaranteed fun
[01:51] <dli> jonah, "sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart"
[01:51] <RandolphCarter> oh, you're starting it :(
[01:51] <dli> jonah, however, you still have to read the howto yourself
[01:52] <dli> jonah, if pcmcia can be started, do "lspci" again, if it shows your wireless card, pcmcia is up now
[01:52] <wegstar> since when was shipit down?
[01:52] <Mysta_> Randolph: one thing before starting. I read another thread that stated that I shouldn't install the linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp or linux-image-686-smp packages (it said anything w/ image in it). How do you feel about that
[01:52] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: well, it depends on what you want to happen to the system
[01:52] <Mysta_> and the forums went offline at least 3 times today
[01:53] <wegstar> it's offline now
[01:53] <Mysta_> sure is
[01:53] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: if you install one of the metapackages like linux-686, it'll automagically download, install and configure new kernels when you do an 'aptitude upgrade' (or dist-upgrade)
[01:53] <jonah> dli, sorry i'm already lost - i'm new to this stuff only installed ubuntu today and i don't really understand the howto
[01:53] <jonah> dli, am i recompiling the kernel, re-installing or somehow changing the settings?
[01:53] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: so, unless you want to be permanently stuck with 2.6.12-10-686, probably best to put on linux-686-smp
[01:53] <dli> jonah, read it, you will find it's really clear
[01:54] <apathy> ok i suck, I cant find that in synaptic
[01:54] <nickrud> nothing new there, I'll just move along
[01:54] <dli> jonah, recompiling kernel is not needed, unless you want to
[01:54] <Mysta_> and only linux-686-smp?
[01:54] <RandolphCarter> oh (linux-686-smp gets the restricted modules for you too)
[01:54] <RandolphCarter> well, for your system, linux-686-smp
[01:55] <Mysta_> kk, brb, crossing my fingers!
[01:55] <RandolphCarter> because you've got an ATI graphics card, you'll need the restricted modules too (which that includes) :)
[01:55] <RandolphCarter> gl
[01:55] <jonah> dli, sorry it's not clear to me, can you give me a clue?
[01:56] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: The same thing I'm  building is asking for Qt, but it doesn't say which bindings it wants.  is tehre a "generic" Qt dev library?
[01:56] <NoobThatNeedsHel> hi, how do i delete this OS and re install it
[01:56] <dli> jonah, just read it. at the same time, can you " sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart "
[01:56] <jonah> dli, it's saying something about startup scripts but doesn't tell me what to type. i assume i don't have to install it cos it's already installed and i'm totally stuck. i am sorry to be stupid on this
[01:56] <NoobThatNeedsHel> install***
[01:56] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: it'll probably want qt4, so libqt4-dev
[01:56] <jonah> dli, i already did that restart thing
[01:57] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Actually, it says >= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0
[01:57] <dli> jonah, now, " lspci ", read the output
[01:57] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: ahh, try libqt3-dev (or, if that's not there, qt3-dev-tools)
[01:57] <jonah> dli, 0000:02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
[01:57] <NoobThatNeedsHel> so how can i re install ubuntu
[01:58] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: debian/ubuntu packages have a _very_ regular naming system.  If something wants headers for a library, it's most likely in lib<libraryname><major-version>-dev
[01:58] <jonah> dli, cardbus is pcmcia right?
[01:58] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Cool.. thanks for the tip.
[01:58] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: np's :)
[01:58] <dli> jonah, look for the wireless card
[01:58] <C|int> I got wireless going :D
[01:58] <C|int> :D :D :D
[01:59] <GlassCasket> YO
[01:59] <C|int> took me, since October last year, but I got it going today, thanks to anto9us  :D
[01:59] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: I'm pretty new to open source / linux... I've been using amaroK and noticed that there's no right-click context menu for sending a song to a playlist, so I want to see if I can hack it in for myself.
[01:59] <C|int> you finna get some money :D
[01:59] <ericz> say i setup an account with the passwd command to expire the password or whatever... if i login with gdm, and it goes to xfce, will it actually warn me that the password is expiring soon?
[01:59] <GlassCasket> The forums down for anyone?
[01:59] <jonah> dli, the nearest mention i get to a card is 0000:02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
[01:59] <apathy> ok so, basically, am I misunderstanding what synaptic is?
[01:59] <jonah> dli, but no mention of wireless
[01:59] <C|int> hey anto9us < I got so excited though, lost the access point, but it seen the ap lol
[01:59] <Tonren> GlassCasket: the new release got dugg, the server i sdead
[01:59] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: ahh, okay, apt-get source amarok?
[01:59] <PMantis> What's the correct way to add a resolution option to Ubuntu? I'm connecting a monitor to my laptop.
[01:59] <edgardpacheco> hello everybody
[01:59] <dli> jonah, that means your pcmcia is not up
[01:59] <anto9us> C|int, you're running off the wifi now?
[01:59] <RandolphCarter> heya edgardpacheco
[01:59] <james_xxx> nickrud, i am trying to download one of the repositories from that page, but i am getting a keyserver error
[01:59] <C|int> oh not yet :)
[02:00] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: actually, I'm installing from anonymous svn
[02:00] <GlassCasket> That's what I figured, lol. :P
[02:00] <C|int> bu tI luv ya anto9us  :)
[02:00] <anto9us> C|int, I don't care, have you got any sisters?
[02:00] <C|int> I seen the acces point, and got so excited, went off to tell a friend, came back, adn something eh,
[02:00] <C|int> hee
[02:00] <mzuverink> Can anyone recommend a good nintendo emulator, one that also does sega?
[02:00] <C|int> I got a gf, I"m just saying, man I owe ya big time lol
[02:00] <jonah> dli, what's that mean then, can i get it working?
[02:00] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: ahh :P can't be too new then, just make sure you run the configure with --prefix=/usr/local, if it goes into /usr Apt would have a fit
[02:00] <C|int> your the best help ever for wireless
[02:00] <PMantis> I need to change to 1280x1024, but I don't have that option under "Screen Resolution".
[02:00] <GlassCasket> I posted this on the forums, but in the live CD, how am I suppose to get ndiskwrapper to get my wireless going without the internet? :\
[02:01] <C|int> you do know what your doing , with linux, and the commands, and stuff I have to get better with
[02:01] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Howcome?  Also, I got qt3-dev-tools, but ./configure is still telling me it doesn't exist
[02:01] <james_xxx> nickrud, i tried to get the one from the ubuntu backports project
[02:01] <apathy> heres what I need to do, I have this system hooked to my tv as well as this monitor, I want it to do tv out but for that I need some features beyond the scope of resolution.
[02:01] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: try libqt3-mt-dev
[02:01] <nickrud> james_xxx, a sec
[02:01] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: "threaded"?  what's the difference?
[02:01] <apathy> me?
[02:02] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: *shrugs* mt's probably thread-safe
[02:02] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Hmm.
[02:02] <james_xxx> nickrud,  ok
[02:02] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: What was that you were saying about installing into /usr/local?  I know next to nothing about Linux directory conventions.
[02:02] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: ahh, libqt3-dev should exist, have you managed to install it?
[02:02] <Xbox_guru> nickrud, thanks editing those gave me 157 updates
[02:02] <anto9us> C|int, I've been on Ubuntu for just over a year now
[02:02] <C|int> I need too, do those commands again :-)
[02:02] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: It doesn't seem to exist.
[02:03] <anto9us> anyway, I must stop chatting here
[02:03] <C|int> wow, heeh, I started with, warty, however I didn't have a laptop at that time, until Octoboer
[02:03] <C|int> October
[02:03] <jonah> dli, is there anything else i can do?
[02:03] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: yes, no candidate version..
[02:03] <C|int> nah, your fine man
[02:03] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: "candidate version"?
[02:03] <Sanne> Tonren, you might need to set some qtdir variable to /usr/share/qt3 for configure to find the include files.
[02:03] <anto9us> C|int, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:03] <Xbox_guru> I don't know if it worked yet but it probally should
[02:03] <C|int> you helped me, and I think I have to do some other things, can I check for wireless, even having eth0 on
[02:04] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: libqt3-dev points to another package that it can't seem to find :/ did libqt3-mt-dev work?
[02:04] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Yep
[02:04] <C|int> hey all, I don't care if this is offtopic , however, I recommend, anto9us , get some pay pal going on, for his wireless support, he is really terrific, with patience, and step by step ways
[02:04] <RandolphCarter> hopefully that should build :)
[02:04] <Tonren> Sanne: If mt-dev doesn't work, I'll try running ./configure with --SRCDIR=/usr/share/qt3
[02:04] <dli> jonah, " sudo modprobe yenta_socket "
[02:04] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: Apt is the Debian/Ubuntu packaging system, and it's very picky about what modifies its files
[02:04] <jonah> dli, phew thanks i though all hope was lost, i'll try it
[02:04] <GlassCasket> In the live CD, how am I suppose to get ndiskwrapper to get my wireless going without the internet? :\
[02:05] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: I take it that it prefers to have sole domain over /usr?
[02:05] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: chances are good that if you modify /usr it'll just overwrite what you've done
[02:05] <Sanne> Tonren, you sure it's SRCDIR? Look in ./configure --help for a specific qt dir variable.
[02:05] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: exactly :) but you still have /opt, /usr/local etc.
[02:05] <jonah> dli, that just gave me another prompt
[02:05] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: Aye
[02:05] <wims> does anybody know of a good howto on dual head with ATI 9600xt ?
[02:05] <dli> jonah, now, " lspci "
[02:05] <Tonren> Sanne: Good call.  Hang on, I'm gonna try to ./configure again without changing anything now that qt-mt-dev is up
[02:05] <Mysta_> RandolphCarter: Install of linux-686-smp went over successfully, I'm about to restart
[02:05] <dli> jonah, if still now wireless card, " sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart "
[02:06] <jonah> dli, nothing still
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> wims: does 'sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=left' work?
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: good luck :)
[02:06] <Tonren> Uh-oh, ha ha, looks like I need KDE headers, too
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: do you have another machine to IRC from?
[02:06] <jonah> dli, it's just as it was before when i do lspci
[02:07] <dli> jonah, paste your lspci output at  pastebin.com
[02:07] <jonah> dli, i appreciate the time your giving me btw, thanks
[02:07] <wims> RandolphCarter,  didn't know of that, trying now
[02:07] <jonah> dli, ok hang on a sec
[02:07] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: What's the package for KDE headers...?
[02:07] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: kde-devel?
[02:07] <PMantis> I need to change to 1280x1024, but I don't have that option under "Screen Resolution". How do I add it?
[02:07] <Sanne> Tonren, tip: if configure complains about a missing file, you can check on packages.ubuntu.com in section "Search contents of packages" which package the file belongs to.
[02:08] <Tonren> Sanne: Thanks.. that's a good tool to have, hehe
[02:08] <Sanne> Tonren, indeed :)
[02:08] <jonah> dli, http://pastebin.com/723719
[02:08] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: yeah, kde-devel might do the trick
[02:08] <nickrud> james_xxx, still here a sec more
[02:09] <Tonren> Sweet jesus!  kde-devel is over a hundred megs!
[02:09] <james_xxx> nickrud, i'm still here, no prob
[02:10] <nickrud> james_xxx, I haven't tried the backports personally. No opinion
[02:10] <james_xxx> nick, what one should i try to get xfce4?
[02:10] <SAM_theman> yo
[02:11] <SAM_theman> is their a way to countine downloading a program with wget if somthing happened??
[02:11] <Sanne> SAM_theman, wget -c file
[02:11] <dli> jonah, is it a new installation?
[02:11] <tahorg> Sanne: -c url
[02:11] <Sanne> tahorg, right
[02:12] <dli> jonah, and no critical personal data?
[02:12] <jonah> dli, yeah totally new like an hour ago, and i did all the updates it said were available
[02:12] <Sanne> SAM_theman, wget -c url
[02:12] <Tonren> Man.. I wish I had known more about the way the filesystem in Linux works before I had set up my partitions
[02:12] <Tonren> I gave /home 10 gigs and / only 5, but all of the packages go into /!!
[02:12] <dli> jonah, is it on public network?
[02:12] <RandolphCarter> Tonren: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ ;) but it's heavy reading
[02:12] <tahorg> Tonren: no that's a good option
[02:12] <jonah> dli, not really - copied quite a few things over - no it's not on any network or anything like that
[02:12] <tahorg> Tonren: sudo apt-get clean
[02:13] <Tonren> tahorg: But I only have 1.8GB left on / .
[02:13] <Tonren> tahorg: What's that do, exactly..?  will it break anything?
[02:13] <jonah> dli, really want wifi though cos it's laptop and was one of main things i used it for under windows before i decided to go all linux!
[02:13] <tahorg> Tonren: it will clean the downloaded packages
[02:13] <Mysta_> RandolphCarter: Ok it locked up :(
[02:13] <Tonren> RandolphCarter: You are a golden god!!! I've been trying to find a document like this for AGES.
[02:13] <Tonren> tahorg: Sounds good, I guess.
[02:13] <wims> RandolphCarter,  after running that apt-get command for dual head i get this message : sudo: aticonfig: command not found
[02:13] <dli> jonah, I don't how it goes wrong, but it's easier for me to login and have a look
[02:13] <tahorg> Tonren: yes, you don't need them after being installed
[02:14] <Tonren> tahorg: Ooooooh. I see.
[02:14] <jonah> dli, wow how can you do that?
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> wims: ahh, are you running dapper or breezy?
[02:14] <jonah> dli, that's amazing!!
[02:14] <Sanne> Tonren, the deb packages get downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives. The clean command deletes them from there.
[02:14] <wims> breezy
[02:14] <slackern> Tonren: 'sudo apt-get clean' will clean all downloaded packages that you have in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:14] <james_xxx> nickrud, where should i try to find xfce4?
[02:14] <tahorg> Tonren: look at a df -h before and after
[02:14] <dli> jonah, can you connect it in anyway? by the wired card?
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> wims: make a copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf in your home directory and run 'sudo fglrxconfig'
[02:14] <wims> RandolphCarter, 64 bits breezy, dunno if that's relevant
[02:14] <Tonren> tahorg: oo.  I didn't know about df.  that's a fun command
[02:15] <james_xxx> nickrud, the instructions at wiki.xubuntu did not work for me, and i believe i followed them exactly
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> wims: the config tool for ATI is a bit improved in dapper :)
[02:15] <jonah> dli, it's connected - i'm talking to you through ethernet connection
[02:15] <tahorg> Tonren: usefull ;)
[02:15] <wims> RandolphCarter,  i did a dist-upgrade from hoary to badger yesteday, do you think it's better to upgrade to dapper ?
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> wims: not better, just different :)
[02:15] <Tonren> tahorg: Is it a bad sign if I experience a mote of nerdy joy every time I discover a new bash command?
[02:16] <dli> jonah, okay, pm me
[02:16] <Mysta_> RandolphCarter: Ok it locked up :(
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> wims: you can get it to work in Breezy too, the combined effort of upgrading to Dapper and configuring the card is probably greater
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: good, glad to hear its still a problem :)
[02:16] <tahorg> Tonren: on the right way you are, young padawan
[02:16] <dli> jonah, looks like you are not registered
[02:16] <dli> jonah, /join #dli
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: try 'sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and change 'Driver "ati"' to 'Driver "radeon"'
[02:17] <james_xxx> has anyone else in here tried to install xubuntu?
[02:17] <Tonren> I wish Gaim's Find feature in logs would jump from found pattern to found pattern like most text viewers do
[02:17] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: it won't change anything
[02:17] <nickrud> james_xxx, work is interfering right this sec. My bottom line advice? replace /etc/apt/sources.list with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047. Then, type    sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: nani?
[02:17] <Mysta_> ok one sec
[02:17] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: ati/radeon is the same driver
[02:17] <james_xxx> nickrud, thank you so much... i will try that
[02:17] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: no, they're most definitely not
[02:17] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: my system wouldn't even start Xorg with ati, but started fine with radeon
[02:18] <nickrud> james_xxx, sorry I try to be able to follow up on my advice, I'm just tiime constricted right now :)
[02:18] <RandolphCarter> ati is the much older grandfather of radeon..
[02:18] <james_xxx> nickrud, i understand..... ummm... do i just type that link into the command line???
[02:18] <SAM_theman> thanks fool :P
[02:18] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: I can use my x700 mobility putting ati/radeon
[02:18] <SAM_theman> the wget -c url worked you saved my life
[02:18] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: and same logs
[02:18] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: hmm..
[02:19] <Sanne> SAM_theman, cool :)
[02:19] <SAM_theman> well your not a fool but you know
[02:19] <nickrud> james_xxx, that link in a browser, cut & paste the contents to /etc/apt/sources.list ( type gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" , that's the file the contents go into)
[02:19] <SAM_theman> thanks man
[02:19] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: but you're probably right, there are 2 differents files
[02:19] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: ati_drv.so radeon_drv.so
[02:19] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: aye, radeon is a much newer driver, I guess it's nifty they have the same log format
[02:20] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: any luck?
[02:20] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: well, let me give a try now
[02:21] <RandolphCarter> heh, ati's 52K and radeon's 302K :)
[02:22] <wims> RandolphCarter, hmmm that didn't work :(
[02:22] <james_xxx> nickrud, i can't cut and paste, as i am installing xubuntu on another computer... unless i can access a browser from ubuntu server??
[02:22] <wims> RandolphCarter,  still the same on both monitors
[02:22] <RandolphCarter> wims: hmm, did fglrxconfig finish okay? (and did you select all of the dual-head stuff?)
[02:23] <RandolphCarter> wims: if you did that okay, do 'ls /etc/X11' and see if there's a file named XF86Config or XF86Config-4
[02:23] <nickrud> james_xxx, hm.
[02:23] <mick_> can anyone help me mount my ntfs drive?
[02:23] <nickrud> james_xxx, join #flood
[02:24] <cpare> Good Evening All
[02:24] <wims> no XF86Config file
[02:24] <wims> only xorg.conf
[02:24] <wims> RandolphCarter,
[02:25] <james_xxx> nickrud, if i downloaded the dapper beta ISO, would i be able to just install xubuntu from that?
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> hmm :/ I don't think fglrxconfig could have saved the config file in the right place, has it put it in your home directory?
[02:25] <wims> ah... there's a xorg.conf in my home dir
[02:25] <nickrud> james_xxx, I think there's an xubuntu dapper, but join #flood. You would need to type three lines into your server install
[02:25] <cpare> anyone know when dapper is due to be GA?
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> wims: bingo :) unless that's the copy you made, copy it over /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:25] <billytwowilly> are the 64 bit nvidia drivers crap? I get the nvidia logo when I boot up X, but glxgears still runs really slow.
[02:26] <Olde> did a online install of Debian and can't get it to login
[02:26] <james_xxx> nickrud, ok, are you going to give me those?
[02:26] <nickrud> james_xxx, of course, as soon as you're in flood :)
[02:26] <ntfx> If I want to try ubuntu out, will i need to sacrifice my windows installation?
[02:26] <wims> RandolphCarter, the one in etc/x11 is the most recent one
[02:26] <james_xxx> nickrud, oops, ok lol
[02:26] <wims> so that wasn't it either
[02:26] <eugman> What's the point of esd? I seem to need to kill it to runn xmms or sounds on some games. There doesn't seem to be much negative difference after I do killall esd.
[02:26] <james_xxx> join #flood
[02:27] <RandolphCarter> wims: ah :/ what happens if you 'grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf'?
[02:27] <james_xxx> hmm
[02:27] <wims> RandolphCarter, xorg.conf contains that word
[02:27] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: well, Driver "ati" or Driver "radeon" both load radeon_drv.so AND ati_drv.so
[02:27] <nickrud> james_xxx, /join #flood
[02:27] <wims>     Driver                              "fglrx"
[02:27] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: erk?
[02:28] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: yes
[02:28] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: I've diffed  the logs
[02:28] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: that's obscure, but I still don't believe they're the same driver, they're just magical now
[02:29] <Kickersny> why won't dpkg honor my --force request? http://<IP_ADDRESS>/libc6.txt
[02:29] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: www.tahorg.net/stuff/Xorg.0.log-{ati,radeon,diff}
[02:29] <rootaccess> ls
[02:29] <rootaccess> ls
[02:30] <rootaccess> hehe wrong window
[02:30] <Kyral> I've done that
[02:30] <RandolphCarter> wims: hmm, that's all I can really walkthrough, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 is good, when the forums come back
[02:30] <wims> RandolphCarter,  ok thanks
[02:31] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: the "ati" detects the radeon then loads the radeon_drv
[02:31] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: I guess it must be buggy then, ati completely chokes on my X800
[02:31] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: the "radeon" loads automatically ati_drv before detection
[02:31] <Mysta_> RANDOLPH!!!!!
[02:31] <Mysta_> IT WORKED
[02:31] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: :)
[02:31] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: see, another person for whom ati is borked :/
[02:31] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: I imagine radeon_drv depends on ati_drv
[02:31] <zack> I tried to do "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" but I got "
[02:31] <zack> Reading package lists... Done
[02:32] <Mysta_> wow u're amazing, i've seen u fix 5-6 problems in like 30 minutes
[02:32] <zack> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:32] <zack> E: Unable to find a source package for wine"
[02:32] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: look in your log file, I bet it loads ati_drv too :)
[02:32] <Mysta_> Thank you so much!
[02:32] <RandolphCarter> tahorg: I'm using fglrx now ;)
[02:32] <RandolphCarter> Mysta_: np's :) I'm only doing this so I don't have to get around to doing some coding :/
[02:32] <Mysta_> ah what language?
[02:32] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: me too ... xgl/compiz
[02:32] <mr_hus> Is there a good guide somewhere to get fonts looking nice under ubuntu? I can't seem to get them to look as good as they do under windows... there's always something that does not feel right.
[02:32] <RandolphCarter> python :( fun with metaclasses atm
[02:33] <zack> I tried to do "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" but I got
[02:33] <Mysta_> heh, i wanna learn python and jump on the django bandwagon!
[02:33] <zack> "Reading package lists... Done
[02:33] <zack> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:33] <zack> E: Unable to find a source package for wine"
[02:33] <RandolphCarter> :P django is kinda neat
[02:33] <tahorg> RandolphCarter: python is the way.
[02:33] <zack> what should i do?
[02:33] <Samuli^> !fonts
[02:33] <ubotu> from memory, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[02:33] <robertl> zack is deb-src included in your sources.list?
[02:33] <zack> i dont know
[02:34] <zack> let me check
[02:34] <Mysta_> well i have to get out of here. been workin almost 13 hours.. I really appreciate the help! goodnight everyone
[02:34] <RandolphCarter> lol, night Mysta_
[02:34] <Samuli^> mr_hus, to me ubuntu's fonts look much better than in windows though. Funny thing.
[02:34] <robertl> zack, sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <Bilange> ubotu:  tell zack about universe
[02:34] <RandolphCarter> gonna get some kip n'all, it's like 1:30am and I think I have to work tomorrow :/
[02:34] <Mysta_> wherer ya from?
[02:34] <RandolphCarter> UK, up north :) you?
[02:34] <Mysta_> Atlanta GA. did you watch the game today?
[02:35] <Mysta_> arsenal vs barcelona?
[02:35] <Bilange> zack:  you might need to add more repositories -- see what ubotu said in private message
[02:35] <mr_hus> Samuli^:  yeah well it might be my monitor or something I don't know... they're not that ugly... but depending on the font sometimes they are hard to weird...
[02:35] <RandolphCarter> ahh, yeah :)
[02:35] <robertl> zack, look for any deb-src http://source-repo-addr/ubuntu main
[02:35] <rootaccess> usa all the way -- bush is crazy -- you had better pray
[02:35] <rootaccess> hehe
[02:35] <RandolphCarter> I'm a Liverpool fan, and we already won the FA cup this weekend though ^_^
[02:35] <Mysta_> GERRARD is THE MAN
[02:35] <Samuli^> mr_hus, I've always liked the open symbol ones..
[02:35] <tritium> rootaccess: that's off topic
[02:35] <Mysta_> he is absolutely amazing
[02:35] <zack> robertl, not there should i add it to the bottom?
[02:35] <rootaccess> soo what -- it rhymed :D
[02:35] <rootaccess> hehe
[02:35] <RandolphCarter> aye Mysta_ :)
[02:35] <robertl> hang on zack...
[02:35] <Warbo> RandolphCarter: Hopefully that may mean a new release of the Istanbul screen capture tool for GStreamer0.10 :)
[02:35] <Mysta_> well g'night
[02:36] <Mysta_> see ya everyone
[02:36] <Samuli^> mr_hus, I mean they might not be as readable as in windows, but they definately look nicer.
[02:36] <tritium> so please don't discuss politics here.  That's not the channel's purpose
[02:36] <RandolphCarter> Warbo: :P
[02:36] <RandolphCarter> night ^_^
[02:37] <rootaccess> i wasn't -- i was passing a song along for everyone to enjoy -- thier interpretation is not my concern :-D
[02:37] <tritium> rootaccess: okay, well please refrain in the future.  Thanks :)
[02:37] <robertl> zack, check sidebar.
[02:38] <Samuli^> mr_hus, you might want to play around with the anti-aliasing options in system/preferences/fonts
[02:38] <rootaccess> you didn't like my song eh?
[02:38] <rootaccess> hehe
[02:38] <zack> robertl, what do you mean? by the way im enableing the things ubotu siad if thats what you mean
[02:38] <tahorg> Tonren: so ?
[02:38] <Tonren> tahorg: Hmm?
[02:38] <robertl> zack, no, are you using xchat?
[02:38] <tahorg> Tonren: you've cleaned your / ?
[02:38] <tritium> rootaccess: let's not discuss it anymore.  Let's talk about ubuntu-related stuff instead :)
[02:38] <Tonren> tahorg: Nope, gonna do that now
[02:38] <Warbo> mr_hus: Flat-panel monitors look better with "sub rendering" (I don't know what it is but it works)
[02:39] <zack> robertl, chatzilla
[02:39] <tahorg> "tidy your root, now"
[02:39] <whiter> my mouse isnt working, anyone know how to get it working? whats the command to reconfigure xorg again?
[02:39] <Warbo> whiter: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:39] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:39] <robertl> zack, aaaah. can you /join #sources.list, I need you to paste your current file.
[02:39] <whiter> dpkg --conmpri
[02:39] <rootaccess> ok -- I actually have a on-topic question! :-D
[02:40] <Tonren> Hey guys, how do you concatenate two strings on the command line?  Like, what if I wanted to do df -h > df_log, but I also wanted to put a datestamp?
[02:41] <mr_hus> Warbo: yeah i have it set up to that... but still...
[02:41] <mick_> what is the music player of choice for ubuntu users?
[02:41] <rootaccess> *waiting for compile to error again ...
[02:41] <Tonren> mick_: amaroK seems to be pretty popular.
[02:41] <rootaccess> When i try to compile Kismet i get an error :
[02:41] <rootaccess> configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[02:41] <Warbo> mr_hus: Either way I would fight anyone to the death who said that Word's font rendering is better than OpenOffice's
[02:42] <tritium> rootaccess: why are you compiling it, anyway?
[02:42] <tritium> (since it's in the repositories)
[02:42] <rootaccess> i have already installed : libncursesw5_5.4-4_i386.deb
[02:42] <gray> hey all you smart linux people, i have a question about irc
[02:42] <tritium> !info kismet
[02:42] <rootaccess> and i dont understand why that isnt working
[02:42] <ubotu> kismet: (Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2005.08.R1-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 983 kB, Installed size: 2920 kB
[02:42] <mr_hus> Warbo: hehe naw.. im mostly complaining about how it looks in firefox on some pages... depending on the font being used..
[02:42] <bimberi> Tonren: date > df.log && df -h >> df.log
[02:42] <nclife> arr, how do i install a .bin again? i already forgot
[02:42] <tritium> rootaccess: sudo apt-get install kismet
[02:43] <Kickersny> gray, you going to ask?
[02:43] <rootaccess> really ?! SWEET!
[02:43] <rootaccess> lol
[02:43] <Tonren> bimberi: No way to do it without two calls to df.log, eh?
[02:43] <rootaccess> gonna try
[02:43] <gray> so i have a server, and I want to set up IRC on it so my friends and I can chat
[02:43] <tritium> rootaccess: it's in the universe repository, so make sure you've enabled it
[02:43] <Kickersny> apt-get install ircd ?
[02:43] <Kickersny> just a guess
[02:43] <gray> but i don't know which server to use
[02:43] <bimberi> Tonren: nothing jumps to mind
[02:43] <gray> yeah, i see ircd
[02:43] <mr_hus> warbo: for example slashdot looks pretty so-so... (at least, not as readable as in windows...) but then again.. maybe there's a way i can tweak these things..
[02:43] <DanTheMan25> just download amarok 1.4 but it doesn't have gstreamer, and it doesn't play MP3's with xine am i missing something?
[02:43] <Warbo> mr_hus: If you really want to then I think you can override font settings for sites in the preferences (I tend not to though, because I have a black/dark grey theme and so many sites end up with white-on-white or black-on-black colour schemes)
[02:43] <gray> i noticed that ubuntu doesn't have a preferred one tho
[02:43] <Kickersny> use ircd
[02:43] <gray> so dancer-ircd, rageircd, iacd, ircd?
[02:44] <gray> ok
[02:44] <rootaccess> hrm... i got a bunch of  Couldn't stat source package list.... errors
[02:44] <tritium> !tell rootaccess about repos
[02:44] <xero> Good evening everyone
[02:44] <gray> and also, what is the suggested client for command-line?
[02:44] <Warbo> rootaccess: try to ping the address that don't work?
[02:44] <nclife> is there a command to install a .bin program?
[02:44] <Samuli^> mr_hus, have you tried to play around with the anti-aliasing options in system/preferences/fonts
[02:44] <tritium> rootaccess: make sure you setup your /etc/apt/sources.list appropriately
[02:44] <rootaccess> ok -- ty -- i will try
[02:44] <navyn> hello all, just a real simple question for ya.  How do I get the debian menus to show up?
[02:45] <bimberi> gray: gnome-terminal ??
[02:45] <Warbo> nclife: "/path/to/file.bin"
[02:45] <Samuli^> navyn, do you have alacarte menu editor?
[02:45] <Bilange> gray:  you mean for IRC? on the command line, id sugger irssi
[02:45] <bimberi> navyn: install the "menu" package
[02:45] <navyn> Samuli^, yes
[02:45] <Samuli^> or even ala carte
[02:45] <Samuli^> navyn, well fire it up :)
[02:46] <nclife> ls
[02:46] <Warbo> nclife: What are you trying to install?
[02:46] <gray> thank you all for your help! :)
[02:46] <navyn> Samuli^, its there but nothing happens when i click on it.  nothing shows up
[02:46] <xero> Is anyone familiar with installing Open Xchange on Ubuntu?
[02:47] <nclife> Warbo, a poker software  :P
[02:47] <Bilange> "ls"? nah, you should type "/names" in here ;P
[02:47] <eric_polegato> For some reason my Ubuntu box is lagging so horridly it's unfit, are there any ideas why this might be?
[02:47] <talldave> i am finding that wine freezes my system, has anyone else found this?
[02:47] <nclife> Warbo, i have dl the file called PPSsetup.bin
[02:47] <Samuli^> navyn hmm
[02:47] <navyn> bimberi, menu is installed
[02:47] <bimberi> navyn: hmmk
[02:47] <Warbo> nclife: OK. Just making sure it wasn't something already in Ubuntu (it is always best to use Ubuntu packages, but obviously something specific like that will not be in the repos)
[02:48] <Samuli^> navyn, try alacarte in terminal
[02:48] <Samuli^> see what it puts out
[02:48] <linuxcrazy> this is incredible
[02:48] <nclife> Warbo, yes. So, how should i open it to be able to install the software?
[02:48] <linuxcrazy> 715 guys on here
[02:48] <linuxcrazy> nclife: what r u trying to do?
[02:48] <navyn> Samuli^, it doesn't output any errors
[02:49] <Bilange> linuxcrazy:  theres even more in debian and gentoo :S
[02:49] <Warbo> nclife: In a terminal you can either type the whole path (you can use Tab to complete filenames) or, if it is in your home directory you can type "./PPSetup.bin" (that is a dot followed by a slash)
[02:49] <nclife> linuxboy, trying to open a .bin file to install a progam
[02:49] <nclife> Warbo, okayz
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> bwahahaha
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> a .bin?!
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> nooooo
[02:49] <juice> I'm kinda confused, is the latest version at http://www.ubuntu.com/download?
[02:49] <C|int> I lost my uh, wireless, wlan0, with the ndiswrapper, I did a system dist-upgrade, and poof o.o
[02:49] <Warbo> nclife: You need to make sure you have permission to execute it as well (right click on it and go on properties>permissions)
[02:49] <hajuu> Anyone able to help me get my ident server working with irc? I need to identify with some bots through it
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> oh no!
[02:49] <linuxcrazy> chmod it
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> chmod a+rwx
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> enter the root password
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> go root first
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> then chmod it
[02:50] <Samuli^> navyn, well maybe try reinstalling it apt-get --reinstall install alacarte
[02:50] <nclife> oks
[02:50] <tritium> linuxcrazy: the root account is disabled by default
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> sudo passwd
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> enable it
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> enter a new password
[02:50] <tritium> linuxcrazy: that's not the preferred advice here
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> ok
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> fine
[02:51] <tritium> !sudo
[02:51] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:51] <xero> ok, so I have been a windows sysadmin/programmer for ~ 10 years anyone care to answer some truly n00b questions?
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> ok
[02:51] <xero> =]
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> shoot
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> lol
[02:52] <signature16> can somebody help me with this MySQL problem:  http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?10,90574,90574#msg-90574
[02:52] <xero> what is the point of sudo
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> rofl
[02:52] <rootaccess> sweet
[02:52] <xero> if it can do what the root account can
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> to go root
[02:52] <xero> i understand what sudo doe
[02:52] <xero> does
[02:52] <tritium> xero: security benefits
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> xero: to be able to exevute files
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> yesh
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> no virues
[02:52] <linuxcrazy> almost impossible
[02:52] <nickrud> xero, to ensure that a root password does not exist, so people brute forcing root password won't get it
[02:52] <Warbo> xero: By using sudo you can avoid root altogether
[02:53] <tritium> linuxcrazy: there are >715 people here.  Please try to minimize use of the enter key
[02:53] <linuxcrazy> looks like your flooding yourself tridium. ^^^
[02:53] <xero> now that makes sense!
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> rfol
[02:54] <rootaccess> !sudo rootaccess
[02:54] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rootaccess
[02:54] <tritium> linuxcrazy: I don't hit enter between sentences.  I use periods.  See?
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> ok
[02:54] <xero> so as such, when installing software you should use sudo instead of enabling the root acct
[02:54] <raptros-v76> periods
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> yes.
[02:54] <apathy> hey, any n00b helpers in here?
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> yes
[02:54] <rootaccess> !tell rootaccess sudo
[02:54] <tritium> xero: yes, that would be preferred, but it is up to you in the end
[02:54] <eric_pee> !tell rootaccess about sudo
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> apathy: go ahead
[02:54] <juice>  hey people what is the latest release of ubuntu?
[02:54] <linuxcrazy> dapper
[02:54] <apathy> ok, here is my goal and what is happeneing
[02:55] <tritium> juice: breezy until June 1 (then dapper)
[02:55] <raptros-v76> who uses periods to break up sentences use semicolons ; the other day i got shot in the phace
[02:55] <juice> where can I find it
[02:55] <apathy> I am on a fesh install of 5.10
[02:55] <juice> just the download section
[02:55] <linuxcrazy> ok
[02:55] <hangfire> what are they changing the name from breezy to dapper?
[02:55] <apathy> I want to go dual head with my ati 9000 through the svideo out...
[02:55] <linuxcrazy> kubuntu or ubuntu?
[02:55] <viator> im trying to compile fvwm and i get this error
[02:55] <viator> X11 libraries or header files could not be found.  Please make
[02:55] <viator> sure the X11 development package is installed on your system
[02:55] <Warbo> juice: For either release I would download 5.10 (if you want the newer, but not finished, release just upgrade the 5.10 after it is installed)
[02:56] <rootaccess> !tell rootaccess about list
[02:56] <apathy> I have no problem getting display in dos, but when my resolution gets higher it scrambles
[02:56] <juice> oh ok thanks
[02:56] <viator> which package is that refering to?
[02:56] <juice> I was a little confused
[02:56] <juice> thank you
[02:56] <tritium> !info fvwm
[02:56] <ubotu> fvwm: (F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.5.14-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2914 kB, Installed size: 6444 kB
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> apathy: need to edit xorg.conf
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> you know how?
[02:56] <xero> Is there anyway to get a screen depth larger then 1024x768?
[02:56] <apathy> i tried doing sudo aptitude install xorg- whatever
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> yes
[02:56] <martin> #ubuntu.mx
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> nono
[02:56] <hangfire> can someone tell me what the difference between breezy and dapper is?
[02:56] <linuxcrazy> xorg.conf
[02:57] <tritium> hangfire: lots
[02:57] <linuxcrazy> edit it
[02:57] <linuxcrazy> put in the resolutions you want
[02:57] <apathy> so
[02:57] <ubuntu> Hi, I want to search gcc on Ubuntu
[02:57] <apathy> I am assuming this is a refresh rate issue?
[02:57] <martin> #ubuntu-es
[02:57] <tritium> apathy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:57] <hangfire> well I cant find dapper anywhere, where do you get it?
[02:57] <viator> i dont want the version in the sources
[02:57] <linuxcrazy> apathy: nano etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:57] <viator> i have special patches
[02:57] <tritium> !tell hangfire about dapper
[02:57] <apathy> ty tritium, ill brb after trying that
[02:57] <linuxcrazy> edit the V and H to your liking
[02:57] <tritium> apathy: ok
[02:58] <ubuntu> but there is no gcc present then what I do
[02:58] <tritium> sudo apt-get intsall build-essential
[02:58] <Warbo> Does anyone know if eagle-usb is in the 2.6.16 kernel?
[02:58] <tritium> install, that is
[02:58] <hangfire> thanks tritium
[02:59] <Tonren> he he he he
[02:59] <Tonren> I just had to look up the manpage on paste
[02:59] <Tonren> "man paste"
[02:59] <Samuli^> hangfire, you might not get it now. new flight 8 is scheduled for friday/saturday
[02:59] <wims> can i upgrade to dapper by changing repositories to dapper and do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ?
[02:59] <apathy> shoot, how many kb is 128mb? lol
[02:59] <Warbo> wims: Yes (I did)
[02:59] <tritium> Warbo: yes, wims.  #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[02:59] <Kickersny> 128*1024
[02:59] <apathy> ok
[03:00] <apathy> 131072
[03:02] <svdp12> Hi, I recently installed cedega so I can play games, but does anyone know how to enable open GL and 3D acceleration
[03:03] <Tonren> Hey.. is there a general GNU IRC chat?  Or, like, linux IRC chat?  or one that just deals iwth the use of bash and terminals and stuff?
[03:03] <apathy> ok, that was the first sudo command to succesfylly run haha
[03:03] <tritium> svdp12: ati or nvidia?
[03:03] <apathy> however, in there it said that it would only configure one monitor
[03:04] <apathy> so how do I manually configure it to run a TV on the second one?
[03:04] <Samuli^> tonren, there's ##linux
[03:04] <bimberi> Tonren: there is #linux
[03:04] <Tonren> naturally
[03:04] <Samuli^> #linux is moved.
[03:04] <bimberi> Samuli^: ah, thanks :)
[03:04] <Tonren> Samuli^: Eh?
[03:04] <Samuli^> it's ##linux now :)
[03:05] <richiefrich> Tonren, hes #penguinslair
[03:05] <xero> Has anyone setup open-xchange on brezzy successfully?
[03:05] <apathy> hrm
[03:05] <Arrick> well, guys its time for lost, gotta go
[03:05] <Arrick> I gotta see it
[03:06] <awolf> Hi.  I'm having issues with nvidia drivers.  When I change to the nvidia driver, as compared to nv, the screen goes black and no log file is made, but my computer is crashed.
[03:06] <tritium> apathy: you'll have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that
[03:06] <apathy> anyone have any ideas?
[03:06] <apathy> thought so
[03:06] <tritium> awolf: you installed the ubuntu packages (per wiki guidance)?
[03:06] <awolf> yes.
[03:06] <apathy> that would be sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[03:07] <tritium> awolf: no /var/log/Xorg.0.log at all?
[03:07] <tritium> apathy: captical X in X11
[03:07] <xero> so I added a different screen depth to the xorg.conf file using sudo gedit xorg.conf but the resoultion isnt showing up?
[03:07] <apathy> gotcha
[03:07] <tritium> capital, even
[03:07] <apathy> brb
[03:07] <bpont> anyone know if there is an irc channel that focuses on kernels, specifically, configuring them and discussing the options?
[03:07] <awolf> When it crashes, there are no logs created.  Correct.  The /var/log/Xorg.0.log refers to the last time X started that wasn't with the nvidia driver.
[03:07] <Samuli^> xero, you need to restart X.
[03:08] <xero> Thank you Samuli
[03:08] <awolf> I've found similar problems on the ubuntu forums, but there are no answers as to what causes it.
[03:08] <kapputu> I have some networking questions. Where should I ask them?
[03:08] <hangfire> did this channel just die, it was pumping a minute ago
[03:09] <hangfire> so is breezy the the latest and hoary the stable or the other way around?
[03:09] <kapputu> breezy the latest
[03:09] <apathy> do I add a new section for another monitor?
[03:09] <kapputu> it's also stable
[03:09] <tritium> hangfire: hoary is old, breezy is latest stable release
[03:09] <hangfire> ok, thx trit
[03:09] <Warbo> hangfire: Breezy is latest stable, Dapper is not yet released officially (still in Beta)
[03:09] <xero> and sun is backing it now for their server software =]
[03:09] <Tonren> the latest "stable".... hehehe
[03:09] <bpont> hangfire: hold out until june first...dapper will be released
[03:09] <niki> anyone know how to install punkbuster?
[03:10] <hangfire> thanks for that info bpont, where can I download dapper when its ready?
[03:10] <tritium> !tell hangfire about dapper
[03:10] <Warbo> hangfire: You can install Breezy now and upgrade it to Dapper later
[03:10] <niki> nvm!
[03:10] <niki> got it lol
[03:11] <bpont> hangfire: don't know the exact URL, but if you just go to the homepage, it should be promoted and linked from there
[03:11] <kapputu> I have some networking questions. Where should I ask them?
[03:11] <awolf> tritium, any ideas?
[03:11] <hangfire> ok, thx Warbo and bpont
[03:11] <fiendskull9> hey
[03:11] <kapputu> any channel where I can ask networking questions?
[03:11] <fiendskull9> where can i get the source for Ubotu?
[03:11] <fiendskull9> !ubotu
[03:11] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me.  Im tryin to use Rhythmbox but i crashes on startup with no explanation
[03:11] <bpont> hangfire: Warbo is right...personally, i'd prefer a clean install of Dapper...just put in a new hd and i'm waiting for dapper
[03:12] <awolf> black screen with nvidia
[03:12] <tritium> awolf: did you restart gdm?  (sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart)
[03:12] <fiendskull9> !source
[03:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:12] <hangfire> ok bpont, I'll wait for dapper, clean install would be better
[03:13] <Warbo> hangfire: If you could see my system you wouldn't follow my advice :)
[03:13] <awolf> Yes.  and I've restarted the machine.  Using nvidia crashes X before it can even make a log file.
[03:13] <bpont> hangfire: if you're fairly n00b to ubuntu, you could install breezy now...make mistakes and play around with it...then blow it away and start clean when dapper comes out
[03:13] <tritium> awolf: I've not seen that before
[03:13] <cva> for some reason, my sound decided to die on me today. I was listening to some music and got an
[03:13] <hangfire> well it seems that all the cool new Linux programs only run on dapper, so Im ready to jump ship to dapper
[03:13] <cva> oops, let me finish that
[03:14] <rpedro> I've been looking for a simple howto on configuring a tv card to work with, for example, tvtime but haven't found anything? the card is a pinnacle 310i DVB-t
[03:14] <Rhine> How do i run Rhythmbox from the console
[03:14] <Warbo> Rhine: Just type rhythmbox
[03:15] <tritium> Rhine: you can't outside of X (console), but you can in a gnome terminal
[03:15] <apathy> tritium? do I just duplicate the monitor section and tweak it?
[03:15] <hajuu> Anyone able to help me get my ident server working with irc? I need to identify with some bots through it
[03:15] <Rhine> OK then i found my problem what does this mean GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[03:15] <Rhine> aborting...
[03:15] <Rhine>  It cause rhythmbox to crash
[03:15] <tritium> apathy: essentially, but make sure the H & V settings are right
[03:15] <slackern> hajuu: I installed oidentd
[03:15] <hajuu> Yeah me too
[03:15] <Warbo> Rhine: To find the command for a menu item just drag it from your menu to your panel and check out it's properties
[03:15] <apathy> awesome, afk a sec
[03:15] <hajuu> Its running and everything..
[03:15] <hajuu> but still no ident
[03:15] <marc_> hajuu: firewall?
[03:16] <hajuu> nein
[03:16] <hajuu> none
[03:16] <hajuu> nor router of anykind
[03:16] <Syedburns> Either I'm tired or clearsigning the coc is one heck of a hazing ritual. For some reason my signed text just isn't matching, argh.
[03:16] <marc_> can you telnet to port 113 even from localhost?
[03:16] <slackern> hmm you opened ports for ident?
[03:16] <vbgunz> when a program crashes, does ubuntu keep a general log around so to inspect what the cause might be?
[03:16] <hajuu> slackern: opened them in what? theres nothing to block them
[03:17] <Rhine> How do i find what is taking up disk space?
[03:17] <hajuu> I can telnet to port 113
[03:17] <marc_> hajuu: telnet localhost 113
[03:17] <slackern> hajuu: how could i know that? most people have some kind of router/firewall nowadays :)
[03:17] <marc_> ok
[03:17] <hajuu> slackern: because I said so, directly before you asking if I opened the port  :P
[03:17] <hajuu> lawl
[03:17] <Warbo> Rhine: KDE has a program called filelight (in a package of the same name)
[03:17] <helpneeded> hello all
[03:17] <slackern> hajuu: oh sorry, didn't see it.
[03:18] <hajuu> :D
[03:18] <apathy> tritium, the H and V I am assuming are horizSync and VertRefresh but what would be good values for a TV?
[03:18] <Rhine> Thank you Warbo
[03:18] <helpneeded> can someone help with ? on installing  o/s dapper
[03:18] <apathy> and does it have to have a unique section name?
[03:18] <tritium> apathy: right, and I'm not sure, since I've not setup a TV on X
[03:18] <apathy> i.e. monitor2
[03:18] <hajuu> So, any ideas?