[03:11] <mjg59> BenC: Thanks - the list you sent didn't include the Toshiba one, was that deliberate?
[03:15] <Larose> I'm trying to create a .deb for a kernel module. During pbuilder, I've got the following error: "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.".... Is it because I only have the kernel headers installed (not kernel sources) ?
[09:58] <DARKGuy> Hey, does anybody has an idea on how do I go on compiling a kernel module? I just need to change some lines in xpad.c and try the module, but I have no idea how to do it, any help is greatly appreciated :)
[09:59] <DARKGuy> Actually, sorry, wrong channel x)


[19:51] <waltc> is kim0 on?
[19:53] <waltc> has it always been the case that when logging into an instance as ubuntu you are automatically root, as in sudo -i?
[19:54] <waltc> I didn't think it was prior to 10.10 but I noticed it when launching natty and maverick images under kvm natively


[00:03] <jrwren> oh yes!
[00:06] <gamerchick02> i mean oh no to the dead links
[00:11] <cmaloney> oh yeeessssss
[00:11] <gamerchick02> sorry for my reconnects. i'm trying to set up irc on the chromebook
[00:16] <GC02-Chromebook> there we go i'm registered on the chromebook! yay!!!
[00:16] <GC02-Chromebook> itsa me, gamerchick02
[01:13] <cmaloney> woo


[05:36] <Unit193> IdleOne: Well howdy, got a second for a... Strange factoid? :P
[05:37] <IdleOne> sure
[05:37] <Unit193> Based on !stats-#ubuntu-offtopic: !stats-#ubuntuforums is <reply>Some fun statistics for this channel can be found at http://unit193.ninth.su/pisg/ubuntuforums.html
[05:39] <IdleOne> stats-#ubuntuforums is <reply>Some fun statistics for this channel can be found at http://unit193.ninth.su/pisg/ubuntuforums.html
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[05:39] <IdleOne> there ya go :)
[05:40] <Unit193> Danke.
[05:40] <IdleOne> !stats-#ubuntuforums
[05:42] <Unit193> Heh, wow.  ubot5 actually runs off the same db, so very fast sync.


[11:21] <malin> this one is still not reviewd https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/782/
[20:39] <ajmitch> malin: it's likely that I'll review it this weekend - I'd fetched the branch & made some notes locally of what needs to be changed, mostly installing into /opt
[20:39] <malin> ajmitch: I see. Then I will change that
[20:40] <malin> and thanx
[20:43] <ajmitch> malin: there are a few ARB-specific things that need to be done to each package that we usually add, since I'm working on the branch I'll push the changes to a branch on LP once I get there
[20:44] <malin> ajmitch: thank you very much. What is arb-specific short for?
[20:45] <ajmitch> malin: application review board
[20:46] <malin> aha :)
[20:47] <ajmitch> yeah, we just need some extra metadata for the software center to be put into debian/control, and the app to be installed under /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/unity-buss
[20:47] <ajmitch> it's fairly simple, especially for python lenses :)
[20:47] <ajmitch> wendar: ping, I forgot that it's the last friday of the month, we should have a meeting in < 24 hours
[20:47] <malin> ajmitch: okey
[20:48] <ajmitch> wendar: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-30-18.02.moin.txt has the last meeting which I'll try & write up before then
[20:49] <ajmitch> afaict we covered all the action items that were mentioned there
[22:09] <highvoltage> eek, I forgot to add this channel to my autojoin list
[22:11] <ajmitch> highvoltage: thought you might have ;)
[22:11] <ajmitch> either that or you didn't love us anymore
[22:17] <highvoltage> hehe
[22:41] <malin> highvoltage: ah, that explains why you where away. I have to add it my self :)
[22:41] <malin> wb


[08:52] <Riddell> hmm, last day before beta freeze, I wonder what still needs done
[10:50] <Riddell> I have to say I'm pretty disappointed at the difficulty in getting ubuntu desktop people to test for bug 1050463
[11:17] <Riddell> how good looking am I in one of these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/8002727450/in/photostream/
[11:26] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did someone release k-d-s ?
[11:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no, does it need done?
[11:27] <shadeslayer> you look weird without your eye patch
[11:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: aye, I dropped MI last night and then was filling out visa forms and gathering docs
[11:30] <shadeslayer> I could upload it in a couple of hours, just need to get some sleep first
[11:31] <Riddell> this does not sound like healthy sleep patters!  I'll take a look
[11:35] <shadeslayer> yeah, sleep pattern is all screwed up again ... needs a day or two to fix :)
[11:36] <shadeslayer> which is why I don't want to sleep right now, else I will be up all night :(
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:23] <Riddell> ScottK: what do you think needs testing for bug 1050463 ?  since nobody from ubuntu desktop has stepped up to volunteer testing
[13:24] <Riddell> I don't even know what music programme they use these days
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Riddell, well , amarok tries too hard to do everything , and it mucks up in the process , makes a mess of things IMO
[13:33] <Riddell> mm hmm, that isn't really relevant to testing taglib
[13:34] <BluesKaj> oh , I didn't really look at the factoid
[14:03] <Riddell> afiestas: have you looked at dropbox for a webaccounts service?
[14:03] <Riddell> (asking since I have an e-mail asking about it in Kubuntu)
[14:08] <afiestas> Riddell: I havn't
[15:19] <balloons> ping ScottK
[15:20] <Riddell> balloons: he's not been around today
[15:21] <balloons> Riddell, ahh.. I was hoping to have someone from kubuntu to help migrate the kubuntu testcases to the new format on the isotracker
[15:21] <balloons> ScottK has spoken up last week about the changes he thought were needed
[15:25] <Riddell> balloons: I've never really understood what the difference is
[15:28] <balloons> Riddell, what do you mean? The difference in testcases between ubuntu and kubuntu? We have a set of ubuntu testcases, and the flavors are picking which ones to use from the pool for ubuntu. Then if desired, they are writing there own specific testcases specific to their flavors. What this allows for is all of the flavors and ubuntu to share the burden of maintaining the testcases. If you don't wish to maintain anything specific to kubuntu, you co
[15:28] <balloons> uld simply use the existing testcases
[15:29] <balloons> for example, I see Testcases for Kubuntu Desktop amd64 contain 6 tests, all of which have been written already. We can simply convert this to the new format as-is
[15:29] <balloons> we'd basically just update the links to point to the new testcases on the tracker, instead of the old ones on the wiki
[15:30] <balloons> However, there are a few I would have questions about, because they don't directly convert
[15:40] <Riddell> balloons: ok, need me to help?
[15:40] <balloons> Riddell, if you've got time, sure
[15:41] <Riddell> balloons: how shall we start?
[15:41] <Riddell> with the desktop images?
[15:41] <balloons> they are the easiest, so yes
[15:41] <balloons> you can see the before and after
[15:42] <balloons> let me just convert the amd64 image right now so you can see
[15:42] <Riddell> balloons: no wubi test case in the new test cases?
[15:43] <Riddell> Free Software Only I don't think we have that option
[15:43] <Riddell> Install (Screen Reader)  we don't have one of those
[15:44] <balloons> Riddell, we've got wubi
[15:44] <balloons> it's simply seperate in our images
[15:44] <balloons> just a sec while I'll convert amd64
[15:44] <Riddell> oh I see
[15:47] <balloons> Riddell, ok, kubuntu desktop amd64 is switched over
[15:48] <balloons> what doesn't yet exist (but it coming later this week) is the ability for us to display kubuntu instead of ubuntu in the testcases.. it will adapt the word depending on the iso assigned
[15:49] <Riddell> balloons: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/23697/testcases looking just the same
[15:49] <balloons> yes, that's the idea -- looks the same
[15:49] <balloons> click on one :-)
[15:49] <Riddell> ooh that looks different
[15:51] <Riddell> balloons: so what's the next step?
[15:51] <Riddell> Ubuntu Desktop amd64 has a Ubuntu Desktop Mandatory Extras category and a Ubuntu Desktop Run-Once category
[15:52] <Riddell> "Boot up the iso using a CD/DVD or USB Key to a Live Session" the word CD should come out there
[15:53] <balloons> Riddell, so the next step is to assign the testcases you want to the iso's you want
[15:53] <balloons> and if we don't have a shared testcase for the test you want, we'll need to make it
[15:54] <balloons> does that make sense?
[15:54] <Riddell> balloons: I think so
[15:54] <balloons> finally, I'd like to have someone from kubuntu to have access to the tool itself so they can update and help manage the testcases
[15:54] <balloons> at least one person.. :-)
[15:54] <Riddell> balloons: for "Desktop amd64" we want the same as ubuntu desktop but no Free Software Only, Install (Screen Reader), or VMWare Easy Install
[15:55] <balloons> ok, that sounds good.. you want wubi in there? notice there are actually 2 wubi testcases now
[15:55] <Riddell> many of the descriptions are nearly but not quite the same, e.g. the installer has slightly different steps
[15:55] <Riddell> balloons: wubi I honestly don't know, I don't have a windows machine so I haven't tested it in years
[15:56] <Riddell> and surely wubi tests should be in the equivalent place for each flavour, so not under desktop amd64
[15:57] <balloons> right.. I don't believe other flavors actually test wubi
[15:57] <balloons> I mean specifically in there flavor testing
[15:57] <Riddell> balloons: I'm an admin on that ISO tracker website, although the new system I remember getting a bit lost in before
[15:57] <balloons> there's a wubi amd64 and i386 product where the wubi results go
[15:57] <balloons> Riddell, ahh so you have acces
[15:57] <Riddell> yes
[15:57] <balloons> well then, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseAdmins/ManagementOverview
[15:58] <balloons> you've got all the tools to be able to mess with this yourself.. notice on the top of the page, you should also be able to access the staging site
[15:58] <balloons> you can use that to play around until if needed to understand things
[16:00] <Darkwing> Riddell: do you have a printout of Kubuntu info somewhere?
[16:01] <Riddell> Darkwing: hmm? what info?
[16:02] <Darkwing> Just like a half page on about Kubuntu to hand out at the Ubuntu booth (Maybe KDE booth) at Ohio Linux Fest
[16:02] <Riddell> Darkwing: oh no I don't think we have any flyers
[16:03] <Darkwing> I didn't know if anyone already had anything or not. I'll write a flyer or two if not.
[16:03] <Quintasan> holy crap
[16:03] <Quintasan> one day and half later I managed to get everything works
[16:03] <Quintasan> working*
[16:03] <Quintasan> updating is suffering
[16:05] <Riddell> balloons: where did we get to?  what should i/we be doing now?
[16:05] <balloons> Riddell, :-) Information overload
[16:05] <balloons> I trust you might be able to review that page and get a better understanding of the admin stuff
[16:06] <balloons> at any rate, what's needed is a list of testcases for each iso, and whether or not you'll be dropping the alt's
[16:06] <balloons> so a list of iso's as well ;-)
[16:07] <balloons> finally, you brought to my attention something I had forgotten. Namely, the kubuntu installer might need it's own set of tests, as it is different
[16:07] <balloons> if you go that route, it will be only kubuntu maintaining them of course
[16:09] <Riddell> balloons: humph I don't see to have an admin link on the http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/ site
[16:09] <balloons> hmm, http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/admin gets you nowhere eh?
[16:09] <balloons> we can have stgraber fix that
[16:10] <Riddell> Access denied alas
[16:11] <balloons> ok, I asked stgraber to fix.. however, you still can see things on prod
[16:11] <balloons> if you look what I did was create a kubuntu desktop
[16:11] <balloons> testsuite, then went under products, found kubuntu desktop amd64, and clicked linked testsuites
[16:12] <balloons> then I remove the linked testsuite for quantal, and made it the testsuite I had created 'kubuntu desktop'
[16:12] <balloons> in the testsuite 'kubuntu desktop' I added the tests that matched what was on the isotracker previously
[16:12] <sewardj> SteveRiley: ping
[16:14] <Riddell> balloons: ok I'm with you
[16:15] <Riddell> balloons: still not sure what our next step is :)
[16:15] <balloons> Riddell, ok good. So if you'd like I can help you go through the other iso's as well
[16:15] <balloons> the idea is to get rid of all the links out to the old testcase wiki
[16:15] <balloons> and the secondary effect/effort is to make sure your testcases are all good/what you want for each iso ;-)
[16:16] <balloons> but again, the main goal is simply to replace those old links with testcases integrated on the page
[16:16] <balloons> the testcases in the tracker have been updated, while the wiki is old and deprecated
[16:18] <balloons> as you saw with what I did with the amd64 iso, it's more or less the same as before, just using the new testcases
[16:20] <balloons> that's the primary goal.. Why I'm involving you is so you know it's happening. And also so you can take a quick look and decide if there should be any changes to the testcases you have listed for each iso
[16:21] <Riddell> balloons: I just got Kubuntu Desktop i386 changed over
[16:21] <balloons> it sounds like for instance, you'd like to update the tests for the amd64 iso
[16:21] <balloons> i trust this is making sense ;-)
[16:21] <Riddell> it is
[16:22] <balloons> ok excellent. So are you all set to go through then and update the rest of the iso's?
[16:22] <Riddell> balloons: yeah I think so
[16:23] <balloons> thanks Riddell.. just ping if you run into any issues
[16:23] <Riddell> balloons: how do I remove a test case from a test suite?
[16:23] <Riddell> e.g. no wubi on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/301/edit
[16:23] <balloons> sadly you can't remove it (do to potential conflicts with having result against the testcase), but you can disable it
[16:24] <balloons> set it's status to 'disabled'
[16:24] <Riddell> ah I see
[16:45] <xnox> Riddell: because successful Wubi test is not required, or because wubi is not desired/supported for kubuntu?
[16:45] <xnox> Riddell: e.g. xubuntu dropped wubi. and xubuntu is no longer offered in wubi for install.
[16:55] <Riddell> xnox: because I'm not sure what to do with it :)
[16:55] <xnox> =)))))
[16:56] <Riddell> xnox: I don't have any way to test it myself and the ubuntu test is part of a whole different product
[17:05] <jussi> o/
[17:05] <jussi> In Birmingham now...
[17:06] <jussi> where is tsimpson when I need him...
[17:06] <jussi> actually, not quite birmingham, slightly south
[17:12] <shadeslayer> oh
[17:12] <shadeslayer> jussi: you're in the UK?
[17:14] <jussi> shadeslayer: yes, at the automotive linux summit
[17:14] <shadeslayer> oh nice
[17:15] <jussi> Headed to London tomorrow afternoon
[17:17] <shadeslayer> ah :)
[17:17] <highvoltage> jussi is one of those people who it's hard to keep track of in what country he is
[17:24] <Riddell> jussi: wrong way, head north!
[17:25] <jussi> lol
[17:27] <Quintasan> jussi - the travelling man
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you mean into Stark territory?
[17:35] <debfx> new Qt4 from ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental needs testing
[17:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no, beyond the wall, to Scotland!
[17:47] <shadeslayer> But ... there's others beyond the wall :O
[17:48] <shadeslayer> and when did you start reading GoT ? :P
[17:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well I watched the telly programme, but coincidently I'm reading a short story in the same world just now
[17:49] <Riddell> debfx: installing
[17:49] <shadeslayer> ah :)
[17:54] <Riddell> debfx: installs good and my KDE session starts fine
[17:54] <Riddell> I say ship it before beta freeze
[17:54]  * Riddell out
[18:07] <debfx> Riddell: will do, thanks for testing
[19:35] <shadeslayer> SteveRiley: fwiw I'm pretty much against renaming the package
[19:36] <shadeslayer> creates extra delta that we have to maintain
[19:36] <shadeslayer> I'm *against* creating more delta in FF
[19:36] <shadeslayer> it's fairly hard to keep track of the patches themselves
[19:37] <shadeslayer> !find gst-inspect
[19:38] <shadeslayer> ah righto
[19:59] <shadeslayer> bug 1053079 for the archive admins
[19:59] <shadeslayer> if anyone of them is around that is
[20:05] <micahg> shadeslayer: AAs don't process syncs anymore
[20:06] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[20:06] <shadeslayer> when did that change
[20:06] <micahg> last cycle?
[20:06] <micahg> sponsors is correctly subscribed
[20:06]  * shadeslayer was blissfully unaware
[20:06] <shadeslayer> I was mostly MIA last cycle I think
[20:06] <shadeslayer> so a bit out of touch
[20:08] <afiestas> would be nice to package mtp kioslave
[20:09] <afiestas> to be sure that it gets into quantal (if we are on time)
[20:09] <afiestas> mtp == basic support for android devices
[20:09] <afiestas> to manage files
[20:09] <shadeslayer> afiestas: highly experimental, if someone does decide to package it, should go into the experimental ppa
[20:09] <shadeslayer> I need to test that as well
[20:19] <debfx> link?
[20:21] <shadeslayer> debfx: for mtp?
[20:21] <debfx> shadeslayer: yep
[20:21] <shadeslayer> don't you follow KDE Devel :P
[20:21] <shadeslayer> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=134792475012439&w=2
[20:22] <shadeslayer> actually http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=134789363126825&w=2
[20:23] <debfx> I'm only subscribed to core-devel but hardly read anything there
[20:24] <debfx> thanks
[20:30] <afiestas> shadeslayer: well, let the developer and the solid community decide if it is experimental or not
[20:30] <afiestas> that mtp has been in the work for months, I have been using it even before it had a daemon (I suggested the development of the daemon) etc
[20:30] <afiestas> and I'm quite confident it will get stable really fast
[20:30] <afiestas> so at least we should be prepared
[20:31] <shadeslayer> afiestas: we're in feature freeze, I don't think mtp support will make it in this release
[20:31] <shadeslayer> though if someone approves a FFe and it's stable enough, we could do a technical preview of sorts
[20:32] <afiestas> okok if we are in feature freeze
[20:32] <afiestas> then nevermind
[20:32] <afiestas> I know the rules xd
[20:34] <debfx> well an actual release would be good to underline that upstream thinks it's ready to ship to users :)
[20:34] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:34] <shadeslayer> debfx: I thought that was a given :P
[20:45] <Darkwing> woot! home knitted TARDIS tablet cover. http://imm.io/EWbI
[20:47] <debfx> LIBMTP PANIC: Unable to find interface & endpoints of device
[20:47] <debfx> kioslave: ####### CRASH ###### protocol = mtp pid = 2859 signal = 11
[20:47] <debfx> not very promising :(
[20:48] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[21:06] <debfx> aha, that lovely samsung behavior where you have to connect within the first few seconds ...
[21:10] <debfx> why use the android engine when you can use your own that has all sorts of bugs
[21:11] <shadeslayer> ahhh
[21:11] <shadeslayer> the typical lets-reimplement-this-just-because-we-can
[21:12] <debfx> I'm sure it implements some proprietary extension that is vital for their bloated Kies software
[21:14] <debfx> next time I buy a phone I'll make sure it's supported by cyanogen
[21:17] <Darkwing> Galaxy Nexus
[21:22] <shadeslayer> or ... you know ... buy devices that don't use MTP
[21:22] <shadeslayer> why not stick with just the standard usb access
[21:22] <cmagina> apparently its because with mtp they don't need to worry about internal partitioning
[21:23] <cmagina> the nexus 7 only provides mtp or ptp (the camera connection) even in usb debug mode
[21:24] <shadeslayer> >.>
[21:25] <shadeslayer> typical of devs
[21:25] <shadeslayer> skimping out on work
[21:25] <cmagina> you can mount an mtp device in linux using fuse
[21:25] <shadeslayer> sure, but half the stuff in mtpfs is not implelemented
[21:26] <cmagina> not surprising
[21:26] <shadeslayer> I've always had issues with my transformer
[21:26] <shadeslayer> so here's what I do
[21:26] <cmagina> yeah, i've had plenty of issues with mtp as well
[21:26] <shadeslayer> adb push foo sdcard/
[21:26] <shadeslayer> done
[21:26] <shadeslayer> no stupid mtpfs crap
[21:26] <cmagina> my cowon d2 allows you to select mtp or the standard usb drive
[21:27] <cmagina> nice
[21:27] <shadeslayer> I can also adb push over wifi
[21:27] <cmagina> now that is useful
[21:27] <shadeslayer> no need to connect over usb for smaller files
[21:27] <shadeslayer> so yeah, adb ftw
[21:27] <cmagina> i'll have to take a look at that
[21:27] <shadeslayer> adb also offers a sync option
[21:27] <shadeslayer> to sync unchanged files
[21:28] <shadeslayer> erm
[21:28] <shadeslayer> s/unchanged/changed
[21:28] <shadeslayer> so you can setup cron jobs to make backups over wifi
[21:28] <shadeslayer> or to keep ~/Documents in sync with your tablet
[21:29] <shadeslayer> adb is really cool :D
[21:29] <cmagina> that is really cool
[21:29] <shadeslayer> you'll need to enable debugging on your device
[21:30] <shadeslayer> you can even start a shell on your device using adb shell :D
[21:33]  * cmagina installs adb
[21:49] <cmagina> yup, that is cool
[22:07] <Riddell> Darkwing: your knitting is coming on very well
[23:09] <SteveRiley> shadeslayer: i understand your concern. obviously, maintaining a separate firefox for kubuntu is not free of effort. however, please consider the average kubuntu user, for whom grappling the finer points of pinning specific packages is nontrivial and surprisingly difficult to explain. i'd wager that the work you're doing to maintain the kde version of firefox would be *more* well-known if the package name were distinct and therefore (1)
[23:09] <SteveRiley>  obvious and (2) easier for folks to install/update
[23:10] <SteveRiley> and with that, it's time to board a plane. will check in here later.


[00:00] <dekarl> time to hit sack, thanks for the help
[00:01] <superm1> it will email you if you did something wrong related to the upload
[00:01] <superm1> sure
[14:49] <deepee> hi all. I'm doing an install of mythbuntu and want to customise partitions, so that I can choose the disk it installs the o/s to, what partitions get created on the boot (o/s) drive by default ?
[14:54] <deepee> just realised that accepting the default lets you pick the disk - no reply needed ! :-)


[08:51] <Sarvatt> RAOF: so the spinning at 100% cpu usage bug with the newer X is utouch-geis, downgrading to the oneiric one fixes that
[08:51] <RAOF> Whee!
[08:51] <tjaalton> great
[09:15] <Sarvatt> RAOF: apparently cnd's unity in the PPA also works after downgrading utouch geis with x-staging, woohoo
[09:15] <tjaalton> confirmed!
[09:15] <RAOF> Wooo!
[09:15] <Sarvatt> now who to bug about utouch-geis
[09:16] <tjaalton> chase?? :)
[09:16] <tjaalton> -?
[09:16] <ricotz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/utouch-geis/+bug/879348
[09:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 879348 in utouch-geis (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "evince segfaults (affects: 9) (dups: 2) (heat: 36)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[09:16] <ricotz> so i guess https://launchpad.net/~bregma
[09:16] <ricotz> hello
[09:17] <tjaalton> yeah
[09:18] <ricotz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/utouch-geis/+bug/898175
[09:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 898175 in utouch-geis (Ubuntu) "uTouch hangs using XCB back end if X server does not support gesture protocol (affects: 6) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:18] <Sarvatt> yep thats the one
[09:18] <Sarvatt> ricotz: i see what you mean about acceleration being different in newer synaptics :)
[09:21] <tjaalton> .xsessionrc isn't read on startup, meh
[09:29] <Sarvatt> ricotz: heh that was close, almost uploaded git xserver when there's abi breaks that are going to get reverted
[09:30] <ricotz> Sarvatt, oh, 1.11 branch or master?
[09:30] <Sarvatt> ricotz: master<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:31] <ricotz> oh
[09:32] <ricotz> i was hoping to push an update too
[09:32] <ricotz> Sarvatt, so 1.12 for edgers ;)
[09:32] <Sarvatt> yeah was about to upload it when timo pointed that out :)
[09:33] <ricotz> i guess you need to push some deps first
[09:33] <Sarvatt> got them locally
[09:33] <ricotz> like x11proto-input <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:33] <ricotz> ok
[09:33] <Sarvatt> guess i'll just push the proto and copy your xserver actually
[09:34] <Sarvatt> and reupload all drivers
[09:34] <ricotz> you can copy the proto too
[09:34] <Sarvatt> oh thought you had <IP_ADDRESS>, even easier
[09:34] <ricotz> jammed ppa builders doesnt make it easy
[09:35] <Sarvatt> wow hardly any builders atm
[09:35] <Sarvatt> yeah better off waiting
[10:37] <ricotz> tjaalton, hi, could you update libwacom and maybe upload, they released 0.1
[10:37] <ricotz> tjaalton, to debian
[10:38] <tjaalton> ricotz: upload to debian? no
[10:39] <tjaalton> oh libwacom
[10:39] <ricotz> tjaalton, yes, is this possible?
[10:40] <tjaalton> i can update git, but not upload there
[10:40] <ricotz> and to ubuntu?
[10:40] <tjaalton> ubuntu yes
[10:41] <ricotz> this would be nice!
[10:41] <ricotz> g2g, bye
[10:44] <seb128> ricotz, tjaalton: you guys packages libwacom?
[10:45] <tjaalton> seb128: it's not uploaded yet, but packaged yes
[10:45] <seb128> grrr
[10:45] <seb128> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/89491492/libwacom_0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[10:45] <tjaalton> oh it was :)
[10:45] <seb128> robert_ancell did package it today
[10:45] <tjaalton> ah
[10:45] <seb128> tjaalton, no, it's work duplication
[10:45] <seb128> <- bit annoyed
[10:45] <tjaalton> why not ask before? :)
[10:46] <seb128> we asked bryce and RAOF here at the platform rally before starting on it
[10:46] <tjaalton> ok
[10:46] <seb128> they didn't know that you were working on it apparently
[10:46] <seb128> well anyway, it's done
[10:46] <tjaalton> yeah ok
[10:46] <tjaalton> it was discussed here mid-december'ish
[10:47] <seb128> it's just annoying that people get stuff in ppas and other redo the same work in the archive
[10:47] <tjaalton> forgot about it due to the holidays
[10:47] <seb128> no worry
[10:47] <tjaalton> we've forked all of wacom by now, since it's not maintained in the xsf git on debian
[10:48] <tjaalton> so I pulled ricotz's package and pushed it to my personal git space (writable by pkg-xorg)
[10:48] <tjaalton> (like -wacom)
[10:49] <tjaalton> seb128: do you want to maintain it? there was some confusion about what the consumers were, since the driver didn't need it at that point
[10:49] <tjaalton> and probably still doesn't
[10:49] <tjaalton> but will
[10:49] <seb128> tjaalton, we don't especially want to maintain it ;-)
[10:49] <seb128> robert_ancell wanted to build g-c-c from git
[10:49] <seb128> which requires it
[10:49] <tjaalton> yeah
[10:49] <seb128> so it was a "scratch an itch"
[10:50] <jcristau> gnome requires wacom?
[10:50] <jcristau> wow...
[10:50] <tjaalton> jcristau: the capplet does, libwacom
[10:50] <seb128> jcristau, they are a wacom configuration capplet
[10:50] <tjaalton> it's the source of all the model->feature mappings, and the driver will end up using it too
[10:51] <jcristau> you'd think the driver would expose what features are there, so the clients wouldn't need to guess
[10:51] <jcristau> or, well, s/you/i/
[11:17] <tjaalton> hmm, maybe I should adjust the packaging to match the libwacom upload then
[11:17] <tjaalton> libwacom0 vs libwacom-0 for instance
[11:19] <Sarvatt> ricotz: mind copying mesa from edgers to your unstable ppa?
[11:21] <Sarvatt> tempted to binary copy the proto and 2 libs and xserver from your ppa but that'd still mean edgers would be broken for 5 hours before i could upload drivers then another 5 hours waiting for those to build
[11:21] <Sarvatt> also yay OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 7.12-devel
[11:23] <tjaalton> seb128: would robert mind if I merged some of the changes and reuploaded that instead?
[11:23] <seb128> tjaalton, go for it
[11:24] <tjaalton> seb128: ok thanks
[11:24] <seb128> tjaalton, he just wanted to see that in so we can build g-c-c easily
[11:24] <tjaalton> seb128: well, I'm going to revert the libwacom-0 package name to just libwacom0, seems more "correct" to me, and multiarchify it too
[11:24] <seb128> ok
[11:25] <seb128> tjaalton, what's the lib name on disk?
[11:25] <tjaalton> not sure :)
[11:26] <tjaalton> I need to build it first to see
[11:26] <tjaalton> but I think it's libwacom.so.0
[11:26] <tjaalton> good that he added the symbols file
[11:27] <tjaalton> seb128: can you drop the package from NEW?
[11:27] <tjaalton> I'll get it done before lunch
[11:28] <seb128> tjaalton, done
[11:28] <tjaalton> seb128: nice thanks
[11:28] <seb128> yw
[11:29] <tjaalton> ./usr/lib/libwacom.so.0.0.0
[11:30] <seb128> I wonder why he added a "-" then, seems wrong
[11:31] <tjaalton> yeah, but in any case it wasn't all for nothing, I'll merge the good bits :)
[11:32] <seb128> good
[11:54] <tjaalton> seb128: meh, some issues with the git repo having stuff the tarball doesn't, so I need to look at that before uploading, after lunch for sure :)
[11:57] <seb128> tjaalton, ok
[14:48] <Sarvatt> tseliot: nvidia is defaulting to nvidia-173 in precise?
[14:49] <tseliot> Sarvatt: no, I don't think so, unless someone else changed its priority to something bigger than nvidia-current's. update-alternatives --display x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf should show what's going on
[14:50] <tseliot> or -display i386-linux-gnu_gl_conf if your system is i386
[14:50] <Sarvatt> bryce was saying there is a flood of bug reports where jockey is defaulting to nvidia-173 instead of nvidia-current
[14:50] <Sarvatt> in precise
[14:52] <tseliot> Sarvatt: maybe the card is not marked as supported? What bug reports are you referring to?
[14:52] <tseliot> oh boy, I forgot to patch the drivers to build against linux 3.2...
[14:55] <tjaalton> :)
[15:06] <bryceh> yeah, 2 bugs
[15:06] <bryceh> a.  nvidia-173 doesn't build against the new kernel
[15:07] <bryceh> b.  for some reason jockey defaults to nvidia-173 a lot when it shouldn't
[15:08] <bryceh> a. is lp #576648
[15:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 576648 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "package nvidia-* failed to install/upgrade: nvidia-* kernel module failed to build (Unable to determine the target kernel version.) (affects: 213) (dups: 195) (heat: 1502)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576648
[15:09] <bryceh> b. is lp #876499
[15:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 876499 in jockey (Ubuntu Precise) (and 2 other projects) "Incorrect Nvidia driver installed by checking 3rd party box (affects: 8) (dups: 6) (heat: 60)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876499
[15:10] <tseliot> bryce: oh, there's a merge request for a) already. I wasn't notified though...
[15:12] <tseliot> bryceh: I'll take care of both bugs. Thanks
[15:12] <bryceh> tseliot, great
[15:14] <bryceh> tseliot, I suspect b. is something wrong in jockey's nvidia internal selection logic.
[15:15] <bryceh> tseliot, comment #17 describes as far as I got analyzing it
[15:15] <tseliot> bryceh: the weird thing is that, according to the bug report, nvidia-common makes the right choice, so I'm wondering what's going on in Jockey...
[15:15] <bryceh> tseliot, I wonder if it is something peculiar with the installation environment
[15:16] <tseliot> bryceh: maybe something else is pulling nvidia-173 in?
[15:16] <tseliot> so yes, it could be the environment
[15:16] <bryceh> tseliot, don't think so; it seems to be jockey specifically deciding it's the driver it wants
[15:17] <tseliot> bryceh: but it's designed to pick whatever nvidia-common says it's best for the card
[15:18] <bryceh> ironically, one of the community folks has been dutifully duping all these bugs together, but since he's duping against a really old bug report, that has kept it off my radar
[15:18] <tseliot> too bad
[15:36] <tjaalton> seb128: uploaded libwacom to the queue, btw
[15:36] <seb128> tjaalton, thanks
[20:44] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[20:49] <Sarvatt> bryce: funny because I was digging through 9xxxxx bugs trying to find it and didn't, no wonder :)


[00:00] <_1094kms> ZacLnxNewb: in app channels not everyone is looking all the time - you might have to wait some time.
[00:12] <hallyn> SpamapS: w00t!  your libcgroup/libvirt waiting job seems to be working like a charm
[00:58] <jo-erlend> is MX record always required for mailservers, or only if the mailserver is handling mail for another domain?
[00:59] <twb> Strictly speaking, MX records are not necessary.
[01:00] <twb> In practice, you will probably get significantly better results by deplying MX and SPF records.
[01:23] <pmatulis_> jo-erlend: an MX record is required for servers that want to receive mail from the internet at large (the public).  it tells smtp clients where to send mail for any given domain
[01:24] <twb> pmatulis_: isn't the default to fall back on the A record?
[01:24] <pmatulis_> twb: i never heard of that
[01:24] <twb> I'm probably wrong
[01:25] <pmatulis_> twb: an A record is for a host, not a domain
[01:25] <twb> "If no MX records were present, the server falls back to A, that is to say, it makes a request for the A record of the same domain."
[01:25] <twb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MX_record
[01:25] <twb> pmatulis_: SMTP is for hosts, too
[01:25] <twb> pmatulis_: this modern trend of most hosts not having MTAs is an abberancy
[01:27] <pmatulis_> twb: ok, thanks for that
[01:29] <twb> "Only resolvable, fully-qualified domain names (FQDNs) are permitted when domain names are used in SMTP.  In other words, names that can be resolved to MX RRs or address (i.e., A or AAAA) RRs (as discussed in Section 5) are permitted, as are CNAME RRs whose targets can be resolved, in turn, to MX or address RRs."
[01:29] <twb> That's 5321 (nee 2821)
[01:30] <twb> jo-erlend: so short answer is: you don't have to, but we recommend you do.
[01:38] <Roxyhart0> hi There, I im doing backup with rsync but it stop to work in the middle apparently because long size files, somebody know how to solve or run rsync to copy big files?
[01:44] <jo-erlend> twb, thanks.
[01:46] <jo-erlend> I just installed Ubuntu on my desktop, using a mdadm raid and lvm on top of that. I use three 1.5GB disks and now I see /proc/mdstat tells me it'll take 22000 minutes to complete. It's running at 1MB/sec. Is that normal after an install?
[01:51] <twb> 1MB, no
[01:52] <twb> Not for onboard SATA ports and 3.5" 7200 drives
[01:52] <twb> For external USB drives or something, those numbers wouldn't surprise me
[02:38] <thesheff17> anyone know if it is possible to browse sub directories through apache2?  I have no problem seeing the files but it won't display any of the sub directories in the browser.
[02:39] <jo-erlend> twb, that's what I thought. Any idea how I'll proceed to figure out the problem?
[02:40] <twb> jo-erlend: dunno, iostat, smartctl short self-tests, swap in a new SATA cable, etc.?
[02:40] <twb> thesheff17: have you turned on directory indexing?
[02:40] <jo-erlend> twb, oh.. Actually, I did notice that one of the sata cables were looking a little strange.
[02:41] <jo-erlend> twb, do you think a faulty cable could slow things down without causing other problems?
[02:43] <thesheff17> twb: checking now
[02:45] <twb> jo-erlend: it's easy to swap in a new one, so do so
[02:45] <twb> jo-erlend: also recommend turning on write-intent bitmaps, so that you don't need to restart the sync every time you reboot
[02:45] <Roxyhart0> Hi there I extended a logical volume using lvextend, when I do lvdisplay the new size look correctly, but when I do df -h still show me the old size. There is something that I need to do after/before lvextend?
[02:48] <thesheff17> twb: DirectoryIndex looks like what apache2 defaults to when it his that directory like index.html.  Am I looking for another param?
[02:48] <Devo-Kun> Roxyhart0: you have extended the size of the logical volume, and now you need to extend the size of your filesystem to match that additional space.
[02:48] <Devo-Kun> RoxyHart0: It's as if you copied a partition to a larger hard drive without expanding it.
[02:49] <Devo-Kun> Roxyhart0: assuming you're using ext2, ext3, or ext4 check out resize2fs
[02:49] <thesheff17> :s/his/hits
[02:50] <Roxyhart0> ok, i understand ...yes I am using ext3
[02:50] <Roxyhart0> its not dangerous?
[02:52] <Devo-Kun> Roxyhart0: I've done it, on my personal data, without a backup when I was feeling brave. If this is mission critical, go buy a cheap multi-Terabyte hard drive to backup the data on.
[02:55] <Roxyhart0> yes, thanks so much...I am backing up again and then will do the resize
[02:55] <Devo-Kun> Roxyhart0: good luck!
[03:27] <smoser> jjohansen, did you get anything sorted out with zul on how to get a haryd kernel?
[03:39] <thesheff17> twb: IndexOptions ShowForbidden jeeze this was it....found it in a really old forum...I guess it was because I was securing sub directories with .htaccess files.
[03:40] <thesheff17> twb: w/ different username/pass
[03:40] <twb> That reminds me, I need to disable .htaccess on my apache2
[04:04] <zul> smoser: afaik still looking
[04:07] <zul> RoAkSoAx: uploaded
[04:18] <RoAkSoAx> zul thanks!!
[04:43] <Roxyhart0> hi somebody know how I can set a linux server to send email but as client ?
[04:50] <blackxored> hello guys
[04:50] <blackxored> i'm on a dialup link outside work
[04:50] <blackxored> i'm using openvpn
[04:51] <blackxored> i'm having huge packet loss over this link, on my ISP's route it's almost no packet loss, whenver I turn the VPN in, then I've got this intermediate packet loss on different intervals and different times, does anybody at #ubuntu-server have a clue to point me in the right direction, if any, to fix this?
[04:53] <blackxored> anyone????
[05:10] <twb> mtu?
[05:14] <willkessler> hello, i have an ec2 vs ubuntu server question if anybody's got any time
[05:49] <thesheff17> willkessler: ask away
[05:50] <willkessler> thesheff17: i've been getting some help in #ubuntu-cloud which might be more appropriate... although they basically just said switch to maverick
[05:50] <iarp> I've got an issue with my sudoers file
[05:51] <willkessler> thesheff17: i could ask you one thing, what's the best maverick AMI for ec2 as far as high-load web server starting point
[05:52] <iarp> Today i logged into my server (which only has internal access and single user, me) to the message "iarp not in sudoers file ....". My old byobu session was still running to i connected to that and i can sudo all i want in here without errors, but now i'm worried if i close this session i will lose all sudo abilities, ever heard of this issue?
[05:52] <thesheff17> maverick: why maverick vs lucid?  http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/ here are the ami for lucid
[05:54] <willkessler> flaccid suggested switching to maverick because of load issues my app is experiencing at random times, whcih do not correlate to app usage at all
[05:54] <willkessler> however, i just read this comment that gives me great pause: http://alestic.com/2010/10/ec2-ubuntu-maverick#comment-484
[05:55] <willkessler> allright, i might be forced to switch to centos... sigh!
[05:56] <thesheff17> willkessler: are you experiencing problems with ubuntu in the cloud already with lucid?
[05:56] <willkessler> thesheff17: correct, i am
[05:57] <thesheff17> willkessler: hmmm...I run a couple web sites in the cloud but I guess I don't see the volume you are getting.
[05:57] <thesheff17> willkessler: what is happening? during high load?
[05:58] <willkessler> thesheff17: we have volume of about 3500 new users on a social game, per hour. between 3-6pm the cpu will spike from about 3 to 40-60
[05:58] <willkessler> however, the number of users may only increase 10-20%
[05:59] <willkessler> nothing is changing at the code level; the game does not write anything to the ebs-backed drives on the instance
[06:00] <willkessler> the app only talks to mysql and redis, but neither reports any major load increase
[06:00] <willkessler> so i am thinking, something about higher network traffic spikes a big cpu usage increase
[06:01] <thesheff17> willkessler: is it apache2 that is spiking the load?
[06:02] <willkessler> thesheff17: yes, it appears to be. so normally ifi were listening to myself here i'd say, fix your own )*@)#*@ app
[06:02] <willkessler> but in this case, i don't think it's the app per se because I/O to the box isn't changing enough
[06:02] <willkessler> (acording to iostat)
[06:03] <willkessler> so i'm thinking, wow, something about 10.04 on ec2 has varying load during times of the day, all by itself
[06:03] <thesheff17> willkessler: are you tuning apache?
[06:03] <willkessler> thesheff17: we have heavily tuned it, yes
[06:04] <willkessler> thesheff17: for example, we have a fair # of spares, but not so many to threaten to swap; we have carefully tuned keepalives to match the apps needs... and the thing is very consistent during most of the day
[06:04] <willkessler> thesheff17: only during this "peak" time does it explode, but as i say, not because 30x the usage is happening
[06:05] <thesheff17> willkessler: it does sound like an I/O issue maybe to the backend db....
[06:06] <willkessler> thesheff17: a decent hypothesis, yes, although RDS does not report much by way of heavier activity either
[06:06] <willkessler> ok i'll keep digging, thanks for your help!
[06:07] <iarp> Whats the default groups for the first user on a fresh install?
[06:07] <thesheff17> willkessler: well if the pipe is full on the network...then the db won't show higher load
[06:08] <thesheff17> iarp: what do you mean on a fresh install? during the install you usually pick the username/password.
[06:10] <iarp> thesheff17: i've somehow lost the ability to "sudo" outside of this byobu session.
[06:10] <thesheff17> iarp: you should be able to ssh to root.
[06:11] <iarp> thesheff17: what's roots default password?
[06:11] <thesheff17> that is also set during the install of ubuntu server?
[06:11] <thesheff17> how did you install it?
[06:12] <iarp> it's been perfectly fine for months now until i logged in today, i can't remember anything i've changed for this to happen
[06:14] <iarp> i just don't know what groups the first user/admin is in because i may have screwed that up, i'm currently in www-data and my own usernames group, are admins in any other groups that would grant sudo access
[06:15] <thesheff17> willkessler: https://www.cloudkick.com/blog/2010/jan/12/visual-ec2-latency/ not good :-/
[06:17] <thesheff17> iarp: well that isn't good....you may be able to find out the default username by see the /etc/passwd file.  Do you also have physical access to the server? You could recover the root password easily with a live cd.
[06:17] <Roxyhart0> hi there, somebosy know how I can set sstmp using by default?
[06:18] <iarp> thesheff17: i just started up a virtualbox idental to the server install, i've somehow removed the groups "adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin, sambashare, admin" from my user. I'm guessing that happened when i was having permission issues last week.
[06:19] <thesheff17> iarp: yea the default user during install is part of the adm group.
[06:20] <jmarsden> iarp: the admin group is the one that determines sudo use, by default.  Is any user at all in the admin group?  If so, log in as that user and sudo should then work
[06:20] <jmarsden> thesheff17: admin not adm
[06:20] <iarp> currently my only groups are "iarp, www-data"
[06:21] <iarp> i was having issues last week with apache not being are to write to directorys and i must've forgotten -a on my usermod's -G
[06:21] <jmarsden> iarp: Then your current user cannot run sudo.  So, check what otherusers on the machine exist and which ones are in the admin group.
[06:23] <jmarsden> iarp: For example, try    grep ^admin /etc/group
[06:23] <iarp> "sudo usermod -a -G adm,dialout,cdrom,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare,admin iarp" and we're back in business, thanks.
[06:24] <iarp> grep ^admin /etc/group - "admin:x:111:iarp,www-data"
[06:25] <jmarsden> Why is www-data in the admin group?  I'd rate that a security risk.
[06:25] <iarp> i'm not sure, it's being removed
[06:26] <thesheff17> willkessler: a couple more things to check is during high load what is the latency?...are all the ec2 instances in the same zone?  Just for testing maybe trying running the database on localhost so the apache2 doesn't have to go out to the network.    Now you are "safe", you might also want to consider adding a user iarpbackup who is in the admin group and who has a password you will remember...
[06:29] <thesheff17> Roxyhart0: I would read here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[06:30] <iarp> jmarsden: Well now that i know what i've gone and done i'll be extra careful next time i mess around with adding/removing groups
[06:32] <thesheff17> iarp: Yea I rarely have to mess with the default groups ubuntu comes with.  If you need apache to write to a dir just do chown -R www-data:www-data /pathToDir/ assuming apache2 is running under www-data.
[07:17] <MadHaTTer_777> hello everybody
[07:18] <MadHaTTer_777> im back as promised
[07:18] <MadHaTTer_777> hello ikonia
[07:18] <MadHaTTer_777> hello jamespage
[07:18] <MadHaTTer_777> how r ya'll tonight?
[07:25] <MadHaTTer_777> so can ya'll help me with my problem tonight?
[07:25] <MadHaTTer_777> i updated the kernel last night to the newest ver
[07:27] <MadHaTTer_777> and still having the wvdial.conf pppd option problem along with the /dev/ttyUSB0 device busy problem
[08:03] <quentusrex> Anyone able to assist debugging a networking issues on a new server?
[08:15] <MadHaTTer_777> anyone here?
[08:15] <TeTeT> yes
[08:15] <MadHaTTer_777> can u help me fix this http://pastebin.com/DL92R0Vp
[08:16] <TeTeT> MadHaTTer_777: haven't touched PPP in ages, sorry. Where is this log from? pppd?
[08:17] <MadHaTTer_777> yes
[08:17] <MadHaTTer_777> yeah it seems like no one has used pppd or wvdail in forever thats what everyone tells me
[08:17] <TeTeT> MadHaTTer_777: is /dev/pts/5 a modem for real?
[08:18] <MadHaTTer_777> pts/5?
[08:18] <MadHaTTer_777> should be /ttyusb0
[08:18] <MadHaTTer_777> thanx for pointing that out tetet
[08:19] <MadHaTTer_777> do u know how i change that by chance?
[08:19] <TeTeT> MadHaTTer_777: np, fear I'm not that helpful with such a problem though
[08:19] <MadHaTTer_777> k
[08:19] <TeTeT> MadHaTTer_777: guess 'pppd /dev/tty/usb0' or whatever the correct one is
[08:21] <MadHaTTer_777> k ill try
[08:22] <MadHaTTer_777> nope
[08:36] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: have you logged the bug as suggested
[08:36] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: have you done the testing work as suggested
[08:37] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: have you detailed if the modem is supported by Linux, if so what versions/kernel/dependencies ?
[08:41] <quentusrex> What could cause all http connection to not connect?
[08:41] <quentusrex> I've setup a server and ping, and dns work
[08:41] <quentusrex> but http connections fail
[08:42] <quentusrex> as well as git clones fail to connect
[08:43] <MadHaTTer_777> what testing work was suggested and ill tell u if i did it
[08:43] <MadHaTTer_777> i dont log bugs until i am sure they are bugs and not just pebcak
[08:43] <MadHaTTer_777> and the anwser to ur 3rd q is yes and yes
[08:52] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777:1.) confirm the modem is supported under Linux 2.) confirm it's dependencies/version requirements 3.) if 1 and 2 are positive test on the desktop kernel 4.) report bug if 1+2 are met and 3 fails
[08:54] <ikonia> quentusrex: check the processes are running, check the routing, check the firewall rules, that's a good starting point
[08:56] <MadHaTTer_777> u caught all im looking for is how to enter a little code in  wvdial-pipe right? and u want me to go through all that hell to figure it out?
[08:57] <MadHaTTer_777> btw most of that cant be done anyways
[08:57] <quentusrex> ikonia, I know something works because the kvm guests have working network connection
[08:58] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: ok you have a choice, write the code yourself, or go through the bug reporting process
[08:58] <ikonia> quentusrex: ahhhh kvm....ok, so that means your routing for the host rather than guests maybe off
[08:59] <quentusrex> ikonia, probably
[08:59] <ikonia> quentusrex: first few times I setup kvm I fell into some stupid routing traps with host/guest networking getting quite mixed up
[08:59] <ikonia> I still fall into some now, even with more experience
[09:00] <MadHaTTer_777> ok ikonia the code im talking about is probally 2 words long
[09:00] <ikonia> so ?
[09:01] <ikonia> how does that change anything ?
[09:02] <MadHaTTer_777> its probally basic linux commands like pppd = /dev/ttyusb0 or something like that but not knowing linux to the extreme gives me a disadvantage which is why i am trying to ask someone who would know
[09:03] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: have you checked the device is supported in linux, yes/no ?
[09:04] <MadHaTTer_777> yes
[09:04] <ikonia> ok, what are it's support requirements (Linux/kernel version)
[09:05] <MadHaTTer_777> ubuntu the last known ver was 7.4 because the manufactor hasnt updated their site since before 7.4 came out
[09:06] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: can you show me the link to the manufacture page please ?
[09:06] <ikonia> (or tell me the device named/make/model and I'll look it up)
[09:08] <MadHaTTer_777> franklin wireless mobile modem cdu-680 p/n blah blah 0014
[09:08] <MadHaTTer_777> carrier ACS manufactor Franklin Wireless
[09:08] <huats> rmoning
[09:09] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: ok, I'm reading there is a 3rd party module needed for it, have you installed that MadHaTTer_777 ?
[09:09] <MadHaTTer_777> ?
[09:10] <MadHaTTer_777> where are you reading that?
[09:10] <ikonia> on the FAQ page
[09:10] <ikonia> http://www.franklinwireless.com/?doc=bbs/gnuboard.php&bo_table=faq1&wr_id=2
[09:12] <MadHaTTer_777> im not seeing anything about a 3rd party module there
[09:12] <ikonia> software installed, it's in the "Linux" folder
[09:12] <ikonia> under "what software should I install"
[09:13] <ikonia> OS support for that 680 is Windows
[09:13] <ikonia> http://www.franklinwireless.com/?doc=bbs/gnuboard.php&bo_table=product&wr_id=4
[09:13] <MadHaTTer_777> ohh that lol
[09:13] <ikonia> so lets see, it  says it supports Windows, not linux
[09:13] <MadHaTTer_777> yeah that software is garbage
[09:14] <ikonia> well, there you go then
[09:14] <ikonia> so you need to contact the vendor
[09:14] <MadHaTTer_777> no ikona
[09:14] <ikonia> yes
[09:14] <ikonia> http://www.franklinwireless.com/?doc=bbs/gnuboard.php&bo_table=product&wr_id=4
[09:14] <MadHaTTer_777> have u not listened to anything ive said over the last few days?
[09:14] <ikonia> os support Windows
[09:14] <ikonia> I have
[09:15] <ikonia> There Linux support is nonsense they say they support ubuntu 7.1 and are testing 7.2
[09:15] <TeTeT> yeah, sounds like nonsense
[09:15] <ikonia> therefore anything beyond 7.1 (??? 7.l0 maybe)  is untested
[09:15] <MadHaTTer_777> their software is crap so i compiled one that works much better from a script someone wrote and posted in the ubuntu forums
[09:16] <ikonia> clearly it doesn't work much better as you're saying it's not working in here
[09:16] <MadHaTTer_777> its not that that is having the problem
[09:16] <MadHaTTer_777> its some of the linux files it uses
[09:17] <ikonia> as I understood it you couldn't find the right device file for it ?
[09:17] <MadHaTTer_777> i have properly tweaked and compiled that and rewritten the wvdial.conf and widial.conf but the pppd still needs to be tweaked so im looking for how to go about tweaking it
[09:18] <ikonia> you don't compile wvdial.conf, so what are you talking about
[09:18] <MadHaTTer_777> lol
[09:18] <MadHaTTer_777> ik
[09:18] <ikonia> and what is "the pppd"
[09:18] <ikonia> if you know, why are you saying it ?
[09:18] <ikonia> I'm not laughing, if you want help, communicate properly with information rather than random words such as compiled wvdialconf
[09:19] <MadHaTTer_777> compile was referring to the code for the device that i forgot to mention in that sentance
[09:20] <MadHaTTer_777> and its wvdial.conf
[09:20] <MadHaTTer_777> ;P
[09:20] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: right, where did you get the "code" for this device and is it a kernel module you built ?
[09:21] <MadHaTTer_777> just a sec lemme find the link
[09:21] <ikonia> no problem
[09:26] <MadHaTTer_777> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682596
[09:27] <MadHaTTer_777> the code is at the bottom
[09:28] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: when you built this code (I'm reading it now) what did it build ?
[09:31] <MadHaTTer_777> well its a usb flip flop device between scsi flashdrive and ppp connection over port 110 on a cell band so this made it so i could switch between them then i rewrote as described in later pages on that post the wvdial.conf and such
[09:31] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: no, what did it actually build
[09:31] <ikonia> as it what is the name of the file it built
[09:32] <MadHaTTer_777> i think it was changemode
[09:32] <MadHaTTer_777> just a sec ill look
[09:32] <MadHaTTer_777> yeah changemode
[09:34] <MadHaTTer_777> oh and their old franklin software also used wvdial acording to the execute.sh
[09:34] <ikonia> forget wvdial for a minute
[09:34] <MadHaTTer_777> k
[09:35] <ikonia> as I'm reading this the changemode binary swaps the device between a mass storage device and a modem device. Which makes it loaded the required kernel modules (and therefore create a device file)
[09:36] <ikonia> when you put the device into "modem" mode, from what I read it does a check to see if the device is mounted (is your device mouted ?) then creates a device file for the modem, has that device file been created ?
[09:37] <MadHaTTer_777> yeah like i said a scsi and ppp over cell band - no its unmounted
[09:37] <MadHaTTer_777> yes
[09:38] <ikonia> ok, what is the name of the device file that is being created
[09:38] <MadHaTTer_777> sprintconfig
[09:38] <ikonia> (for the modem)
[09:39] <ikonia> that's not the name of the device file, what's the name of the device file it created in /dev
[09:39] <MadHaTTer_777> ohh that
[09:40] <MadHaTTer_777> as i recall ttyusb0?
[09:40] <ikonia> ok as you recall, you need to be certain of that
[09:41] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: reboot your machine with the device is "disk" mode, ls -la /dev > devicelist.out then change the device to a modem mode, then ls -la /dev > new_devicelist.out then diff the two
[10:03] <a_ok> How do I know what lv is /dev/dm-4 ?
[10:05] <MadHaTTer_777> hey ikona i just checked something and its actually on ttyusb2
[10:06] <MadHaTTer_777> actually these readouts r kinda strange just a sec and ill send
[10:11] <MadHaTTer_777> hmm
[10:20] <MadHaTTer_777> gonna be hey ikon?
[10:21] <MadHaTTer_777> -gonna be
[10:21] <MadHaTTer_777> +ia
[10:21] <twb> How do I know if my hardware has IPMI support?
[10:22] <MadHaTTer_777> lshw? internet?
[10:24] <twb> Or I guess just install ipmitool and see what it says
[10:25] <MadHaTTer_777> hey ikonia see the reason im pretty sure its not the modem is it connects then when using the ppp0 interface it picks up all the dns addys then just kinda sits there
[10:25] <MadHaTTer_777> yeah im sure trial and error would work to
[10:47] <_ruben> twb: modprobe the various ipmi kmods and check dmesg?
[10:48] <twb> _ruben: I ran sensors-detect for something else, and it apparently checked for IPMI stuff for me
[10:48] <twb> Anybody know offhand if/what cpufreq module AMD Geodes use?
[11:02] <chrislabeard> Is there any way to see why my server takes so long to load pages?
[11:02] <chrislabeard> When local it takes a longer than normal amount of time to load
[11:34] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: sorry, had to step away for a minute
[11:34] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: if the thing connects and gets an IP, why are you using wvdial ?
[11:35] <MadHaTTer_777> it connects using wvdial
[11:35] <MadHaTTer_777> but hangs
[11:35] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: what IP does it give you ?
[11:35] <MadHaTTer_777> after the dns adresses
[11:39] <MadHaTTer_777> i dont even know how to check that in linux
[11:39] <MadHaTTer_777> whats the line?
[11:40] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: can you pastebin the output of "ifconifg -a" please.
[11:46] <MadHaTTer_777> i did
[11:46] <MadHaTTer_777> i did
[11:46] <MadHaTTer_777> i did
[11:46] <MadHaTTer_777> wjefoad
[11:46] <MadHaTTer_777> opps my bad didnt mean to flood
[11:47] <MadHaTTer_777> i pm'ed it 2 u ikonia
[11:51] <MadHaTTer_777> did u get it ikonia?
[11:52] <ikonia> sorry, was away again
[11:52] <ikonia> ah, I see it, one moment
[11:53] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: ok, I think we are getting somewhere, can you pastebin the output of the following 2 commands please "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and then netstat -rn
[11:53] <MadHaTTer_777> k didnt really feel like sharing ip's with everyone
[11:53] <MadHaTTer_777> k
[11:53] <ikonia> no, I fully understand that
[11:57] <MadHaTTer_777> http://pastebin.com/K3P9WAK0
[11:58] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: ok, so based on the IP you gave me I can see why nothing is working
[11:58] <MadHaTTer_777> ok why?
[11:59] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: if you look at that routing table, everything (<IP_ADDRESS>) is going out of <IP_ADDRESS> which is your ip on your eth0 card
[11:59] <MadHaTTer_777> ok how do i change it in linux?
[11:59] <MadHaTTer_777> ohh wait
[11:59] <MadHaTTer_777> no thats not it :( duh
[12:00] <ikonia> ?
[12:00] <ikonia> what's not it ?
[12:00] <Daviey> hallyn, Is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=604735 likely to be an issue for us?
[12:00] <MadHaTTer_777> i currently have both hooked up how do u think im pastebin...
[12:00] <Daviey> hallyn, (I haven't attempted to reproduce it)
[12:00] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: ok, what are you expecting to go out of the ppp interface ?
[12:01] <MadHaTTer_777> well nothing i wanna switch it over
[12:01] <MadHaTTer_777> but at the moment thats how i have it hooked
[12:01] <ikonia> ok, at the moment then all your traffic is going out of eth0, that's why
[12:02] <ikonia> you'll have to switch it so your default gateway is the ppp0 device for all traffic to go over it
[12:02] <MadHaTTer_777> ok how do i do that ?
[12:02] <MadHaTTer_777> eth0 unplugged now
[12:03] <ikonia> well, the simple thing would be to disable your eth0 network, reboot and then ppp0 will become the default route when you start it up, other than that you can use "route add" and "route delete" to manipulate the routing table
[12:03] <ikonia> (by disable I mean disable the interface, not just unplug it)
[12:03] <MadHaTTer_777> i think ill go with the former and have a smoke with the wife while it boots
[12:04] <MadHaTTer_777> brb
[12:12] <MadHaTTer_777> nope didnt work wife wants me to come to bed will u be here tomarrow?
[12:58] <hallyn> Daviey: no, we have qemu 0.12.5 in maverick, and natty has newer seabios
[12:58] <hallyn> so shouldn't be
[13:00] <hallyn> (and actuallly we have newer seabios in maverick)
[13:08] <Daviey> hallyn, oh good.. thanks.
[13:26] <twb> Anybody know much about writing custom collectd data snarfers?
[13:27] <twb> I'm trying to teach collectd to graph the SNR on my ATM card by catting values from /sys/
[13:38] <Daviey> hallyn, What was the status with the multipath merge?  You did tell me, but i can't remember what you said.. sorry.
[13:57] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:01] <twb> OK, this is fucked up.
[14:01] <twb> I have unqualified hostnames in /etc/hosts.
[14:02] <twb> The host itself has 8 interfaces, so there are eight lines like "a.b.c.d alpha".
[14:03] <twb> If I change *ONE* of those to "a.b.c.d alpha.cybersource.com.au alpha", then 1) "hostname -f" works; and 2) "getent hosts alpha" gives output like this: http://paste.debian.net/108062/
[14:03] <twb> WTFingF, man
[14:03] <twb> (And why can't I just bloody run "dnsdomainname cybersource.com.au" at boot or something...)
[14:10] <hallyn> Daviey: status was cmagina had done some testing and found issues during FOFB, and asked me to look at the logs
[14:10] <hallyn> cmagina: i did take a peek but saw nothing that i've not seen with the current version of multipath :)
[14:11] <hallyn> cmagina: does current mp do better than the debian/experimental merged version?
[14:11] <hallyn> Daviey: i might have to try the debian/unstable version...
[14:12] <cmagina> hallyn: using the experimental version, the machine was constantly failing over while idle.  The current version we are using, 0.4.8, everything comes up ok
[14:13] <hallyn> cmagina: oh, so you'd never done a failover in those logs?
[14:13] <cmagina> hallyn: the experimental mp was a mess, causing IO errors and scsi eh to kick in, while the system was just idling
[14:13] <cmagina> hallyn: nope
[14:14] <cmagina> hallyn: both SCMs were powered on
[14:14] <hallyn> jinkeys
[14:14] <cmagina> hallyn: all that stuff was just from booting and idling after boot
[14:14] <cmagina> yeah, not pretty
[14:15] <hallyn> well trying an unstable merge is gonna be pretty low on my list the next few days
[14:15] <hallyn> Daviey: did you ask bc you are needing it for something?
[14:15] <hallyn> or bc feature freeze is coming up, i guess?
[14:16] <twb> bc gets new features?
[14:17] <twb> I thought it was just a calculator
[14:17] <twb> Oh, you meant ∵.
[14:19] <hallyn> :)
[14:22] <twb> If you were IRCing from emacs you'd have bitchin' UIMs like TeX and SGML as well as boring ol' greek and katakana and such.
[14:22] <zul> hallyn: do you want a debdiff for libvirt lxc fixes that i cherry picked from upstream or bzr branch?
[14:24] <hallyn> zul: <shrug> whichever is easier for you
[14:24] <hallyn> zul: if they're cherrypicked from upstream, then maybe we should just take a new snapshot?
[14:24] <twb> BTW, I fixed my solos vs. collectd fight
[14:25] <zul> hallyn: its just one right now but yeah there is a newer version of libvirt available but i dont know how that is going to set you back
[14:25] <hallyn> zul: good point, i don't know thta i have time for that
[14:26] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: bug #711587
[14:26] <zul> hallyn: since i had like 3 lxc libvirt instances running and been consoling in and out all day yesterday and didnt have a problem with the patch i cherry picked
[14:26] <hallyn> awesome
[14:26] <zul> so im going back to libvirt ;)
[14:26] <hallyn> hm, i was looking at several bugs, but i suppose i should be prioritizing merges right now?
[14:26] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: so what's the real deal there? :)
[14:27] <zul> hallyn: depends on the merge
[14:27] <hallyn> libvirt and multipath, at least
[14:28] <zul> hallyn: if it fixes alot of bugs then i would do the merge and kill two birds with one stone
[14:28] <zul> but thats just an opinon ;)
[14:29] <twb> http://alioth.debian.org/~twb-guest/internode.png and extel.png
[14:31] <hallyn> zul: no, the bugs are largely in older releases
[14:32] <hallyn> hm, and then i was putting off the cap_syslog manage update, but i suppose it would be nice to get that into natty
[14:34] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: I am assuming this is a fluke; I will retest, with the new euca Daviey has uploaded
[14:34] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: I'm assuming this is powernap issue :)
[14:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i think you might have killed "powernap now" support
[14:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: apt-get source eucalyptus
[14:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: grep -r powernap
[14:35] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: so, nodes go idle. powernap puts them to sleep when it shouldn/t?
[14:35] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: let me test it first with the new source
[14:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and you should see how eucalyptus calls powernap
[14:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: eucalyptus does not use the power daemon at all
[14:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: it triggers its own sleeps and wakes
[14:36] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yeah I saw it, :) powernap-now works.
[14:36] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: what I had was nodes going on powersave and euca losig reference to them -- not bringing them back up
[14:36] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: show me powernap's config
[14:36] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: but this euca was a bit unstable
[14:36] <Daviey> oh goody
[14:36] <hggdh> Daviey: this is before ypur 2.0.1
[14:37] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: no chance now, machines have been reconfigured for Lucid
[14:37] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: I think the issue is related to either powersave or that it monitors for other activity than rather kvm process (such as load and stuff)
[14:37] <Daviey> hggdh, hmm.. i'm not confident it'll be fixed
[14:37] <hggdh> Daviey: neither am I, but I am also not confident this is not a red herring
[14:38] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: will a 2 node setup in KVM allow me to test the issue?
[14:38] <hggdh> as soon as I finish the SRU kernel tests I will reconfigure the machines for natty
[14:38] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: it should
[14:39] <Daviey> hggdh, btw, would you mind leaving the machines running clean natty... would like to do some testing monday morning, whislt you are sleeping?
[14:39] <Daviey> (assuming you  don't need them over the weekend)
[14:40] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: ok, I'll try to setup it up and see if I can reproduce. The thing is that in powersave mode, the machines keep running, so euca might think they are still alive or something like that
[14:42] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: it might. I am sorry, but this week was hell (and the previous)
[14:43] <hggdh> Daviey: no prob. Just be careful not to step on zul, he is using cempedak
[14:43] <zul> i should be ok Monday when im sleeping
[14:43] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: do you have access to these machines?
[14:44] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: no worries! :). I just wanna make sure this gets fixed so you nor me have any headaches later :)
[14:44] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: uhmmm I don't know actually
[14:44] <Daviey> hggdh, wilco
[14:52] <hggdh> Daviey: you want 2.6.38-4 or -3 as kernel?
[14:57] <skaet_> smoser,  does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/656646 still exist?
[14:58] <smoser> skaet_, umm.. i cant say it doesnt.  but i also can't say that it wasnt transient network issues.
[15:00] <smoser> its almost not reproducible and the bug is most likely *not* in cloud-init, but in either sshd or ssh client (ssh-keyscan).
[15:01] <skaet_> smoser, yeah makes sense to have something around to catch the instances when its seen, to help figure it out long term.
[15:02] <skaet_> smoser, to ease the tracking (so I don't have to ask about it again :/ ), can you assign it to yourself?
[15:02] <smoser> sure
[15:03] <skaet_> thanks.
[15:03] <skaet_> :)
[15:42]  * zul wonders who subscribed the server team to exim bugs
[15:51] <linuxtech> I think that panic log bug was fixed in Devian.
[15:52] <linuxtech> Debian, not Dev...
[15:58] <jjohansen> smoser: so I have built updated kernels and I can give you the debs, its not in a ppa or rolled back into the regular -xen yet
[15:59] <smoser> they boot ?
[15:59] <smoser> jjohansen, i dont think we have to "roll back into regular -xen"
[15:59] <smoser> its not a necessary thing
[16:00] <jjohansen> smoser: I haven't bundled them, but I assume so, its built with the modified build from the ppa
[16:00] <hallyn> jdstrand: how do we feel about libvirt vbox support?  (debian builds it in)
[16:00] <smoser> ok. well point me at kernel image, i'll upload to sandbox and we can test
[16:01] <jjohansen> smoser: basically if they don't boot there is a regression introduced by a kernel patch
[16:01] <jdstrand> hallyn: iirc, it needs a package in universe, so we can't build with it
[16:01] <jdstrand> hallyn: otherwise, I'd be fine with having it
[16:01] <smoser> jjohansen, k. so heres our plan
[16:02] <smoser>  * jjohansen points smoser at i386 and amd64 kernel builds for linux-xen of hacked version
[16:02] <smoser>  * smoser uploads to sandbox
[16:02] <smoser>  * test sandbox kernels
[16:02] <smoser>  * assuming success of sandbox kernel, ppa build in ubuntu-on-ec2
[16:02] <smoser>  * populate kernel/ramdisk ubuntu-images-testing from ppa build for all regions
[16:03] <smoser>  * profit
[16:04] <jjohansen> smoser: they are at kernel.ubuntu.com/~jj/
[16:04] <jjohansen> linux-headers-2.6.24-11-xen_2.6.24-11_amd64.deb
[16:04] <jjohansen> linux-headers-2.6.24-11-xen_2.6.24-11_i386.deb
[16:04] <jjohansen> linux-image-2.6.24-11-xen_2.6.24-11_amd64.deb
[16:04] <jjohansen> linux-image-2.6.24-11-xen_2.6.24-11_i386.deb
[16:04] <jjohansen> linux-modules-2.6.24-11-xen_2.6.24-11_amd64.deb
[16:04] <jjohansen> linux-modules-2.6.24-11-xen_2.6.24-11_i386.deb
[16:05] <smoser> jjohansen, thanks
[16:16] <hallyn> jdstrand: gotcha, thanks.
[16:21] <erichammond> Call me if anything else comes up.  I'll probably stay in Arcadia today.
[16:21] <erichammond> oops. wrong channel
[16:54] <Datz> hi, is there a way to tell if ubuntu server needs a reboot after upgrade without logoff and on?
[16:55] <zul> Datz: if you have a kernel update or a libc6 update then you should reboot but otherwise no
[16:56] <Datz> ok. I'm curious as to what triggers that message. recent updates did, and I dont think any of them mentioned above.
[16:58] <Datz> libssl0.9.8 login openssl passwd wordpress wordpress-l10n
[16:58] <Datz> were the updates I believe
[16:59] <Datz> (anyway, was just curious. not to worry)  :)
[17:17] <RoAkSoAx> zul: ping?
[17:17] <zul> RoAkSoAx: what up?
[17:29] <hallyn> jdstrand: people.canonical.com/~serge/libvirt_0.8.7-2ubuntu1-package.tar.gz has my merge attempt.  It built find on x86, arm build is still going
[17:30] <jdstrand> hallyn: ack
[18:00] <azertyu> hello there
[18:00] <azertyu> anyone here ?
[18:01] <thesheff17> azertyu: yes people are here...prob working do you have a question? just ask and if anyone can help they will respond.
[18:01] <azertyu> yes
[18:02] <azertyu> by doing : grep -R files1 /home/user i got a list of file named file1 which is present on my system, now i want to copy all file named files1 on a specific directory how to do ?
[18:05] <azertyu> hello anyone there ?
[18:07] <hallyn> azertyu: i'd do 'find /home/user -name "*files1*" -exec "mv" "{}" "destdir" \;
[18:09] <genii-around> I suspect you'd just end up with the last file wherever you copied them, since all of them are named the same thing it will just keep copying one over, then replacing it with the next one it copies over, etc
[18:09] <azertyu> are you sure about the syntaxe ?
[18:15] <MrBalle> Hi!  I have 2 CPUs (Xeons) in my server but can't seem to get Ubuntu Server 10.10 to detect both even though BIOS does. Have changed kernel to a SMP one but still doesn't work. Need more info? Thanks!
[18:16] <Abinadi> MrBalle: someone in #ubuntu just said that you might want to try your BIOS settings just to be sure some tweak in there has somiething to do with your problem
[18:17] <thesheff17> MrBalle: what does cat /proc/cpu show you?  Ubuntu server should detect them all.
[18:17] <thesheff17> cat /proc/cpuinfo I meant
[18:19] <MrBalle> Adinadi: Yeah I know, just thought I'd check with people that might be more familiar with Ubuntu Server, since I can't access the server physically right now to play around with BIOS.
[18:19] <IdleOne> MrBalle: could you pastebin the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:19] <MrBalle> thesheff17: only shows one CPU..
[18:20] <MrBalle> IdleOne: Sure, just a sec.
[18:20] <MrBalle> http://pastebin.com/hmHXQGX3
[18:21] <MrBalle> and here's uname -a: Linux ricer 2.6.35-25-generic-pae #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 21 19:01:46 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:21] <IdleOne> only shows processor: 0
[18:21] <thesheff17> MrBalle: yea either it is a bios setting or you have been mislead about the hardware.
[18:21] <MrBalle> IdleOne: yup...
[18:21] <IdleOne> what thesheff17 said
[18:22] <RoAkSoAx> win 3
[18:23] <RoAkSoAx> arg
[18:23] <RoAkSoAx> lol
[18:23] <RoAkSoAx> marrusl: http://www.roaksoax.com/2010/10/high-availability-uec-clc-howto
[18:23] <MrBalle> thesheff17: I'm sure I have two, I put them in myself so that's not the issue. And at boot it shows both CPUs. But I guess I should check BIOS when I have the chance.
[18:23] <MrBalle> Thanks to everyone for the help!
[18:23] <thesheff17> MrBalle: yea I'm sure there is a setting in there.  Especially if they are both physical cpu and one was added.
[18:24] <marrusl> RoAkSoAx, I was looking at that!  Nice work!
[18:24] <EtienneG> guys, was there any talk about IPv6 at the last UDS?
[18:24] <marrusl> RoAkSoAx, any chance for HA on other components?
[18:25] <RoAkSoAx> marrusl: I'm going to look into ha for the Walrus
[18:25]  * hallyn out for long lunch, bbl
[18:26] <RoAkSoAx> marrusl: hopefully by the end of alpha3
[18:26] <marrusl> RoAkSoAx, nice.
[18:29] <RoAkSoAx> marrusl: now you guys can test this in real HW and let me how it go :P
[18:31] <marrusl> RoAkSoAx, yep.  Sounds like fun.
[18:36] <zul> EtienneG: not that i was aware of
[18:37] <zul> EtienneG: but we should be in pretty good shape
[18:40] <zul> there new cobbler snapshot
[18:41] <Frenk> Hey, can anyone helm me to manage the following: I want my PC to connect to the Internet via a VPN Server. I have OpenVPN already on my laptop - what do I have to do on the server? Install OpenVPN, generate the key ... or whats the fastest solution? (atm its not much about security)
[18:47] <jdstrand> Frenk: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openvpn.html
[18:57] <aliverius> which one is faster /dev/random or /dev/urandom?
[18:57] <aliverius> and which one is more random?
[19:22] <linuxtech> I am migrating a 10.04 exim4/mailman server, years ago when i did this I used some load parameter to have incoming mail get a try back later response.  Anyone have any suggestions how I setup a temporary try later response?
[19:31] <zul> hallyn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/568876/
[19:37] <hggdh> smoser: there?
[19:37] <smoser> here
[19:38] <owen1> how to curl for specific file?
[19:38] <smoser> and was just about to ping you :)
[19:51] <hallyn> zul: that's it?  really?
[19:51] <zul> hallyn: yeah from who i can tell
[19:51] <hallyn> can you comment on that libvirt bug?
[19:51] <hallyn> that's awesome
[19:55] <owen1> where is the cache located in nginx? i want to flush it.
[19:57] <RoAkSoAx> win 3
[19:57] <RoAkSoAx> argh
[19:57] <RoAkSoAx> lkol
[19:57] <RoAkSoAx> kir:
[19:57] <RoAkSoAx> sr
[19:57] <RoAkSoAx> sry lol
[19:57] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ping
[19:58] <smoser> hggdh, you still there?
[19:59] <hggdh> yes
[19:59] <smoser> k.
[19:59] <smoser> so i hvae a favor
[19:59] <hggdh> shoot
[19:59] <smoser> can you get a 10.04 cloud set up ?
[19:59] <smoser> and right now i will work on getting kernels that boot for hardy up
[19:59] <hggdh> it is still set on 10.04.3
[19:59] <hggdh> .2 duh
[20:00] <azertyu> 'find /home/user -name "*files1*" -exec "mv" "{}" "destdir" \; are you still there hallyn
[20:00] <azertyu> ?
[20:00] <smoser> hggdh, oh ?
[20:00] <smoser> thats awesome.
[20:01] <smoser> azertyu, that will flatten your files
[20:01] <hggdh> smoser: I stil have it from the ISO tests... was going to blow them now, you got me at the right moment
[20:01] <smoser> ok. i want to jump in and test something if you dont mind
[20:02] <smoser> especially if its up and functional
[20:03] <azertyu> flatten ?
[20:03] <smoser> it will put them all into destdir
[20:03] <smoser> not destdir/some/path/fy-file1-bar
[20:04] <hggdh> no problem. Only thing is the topo is slightly changed: mabolo is the UEC, marula the walrus, santol the cc, sapodilla the sc, and soncoya the nc
[20:04] <hggdh> smoser: ^
[20:04] <smoser> hggdh, ok.
[20:05] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: Ok so I have a few ideas why powernap/eucalyptus don't like each other anymore
[20:05] <azertyu> i have replace destdir by it's path ?
[20:05] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: I am all ears
[20:05] <azertyu> have i to replace destdir by it's path ?
[20:07] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: ok so I just setup a natty eucalyptus (2 node), and I had to manually register the NC. But, watching at /var/log/eucalyptus/cc.log in the CLC, it shows as if the NC is down and keeps sending WoL's to the NC, however, the NC still appears down to the CLC
[20:07] <RoAkSoAx> (CLC/SS/SC/Walrus)
[20:07] <andreserl> every 10 seconds or so
[20:07] <andreserl> argh
[20:07] <RoAkSoAx> ok every 10 seconds or so
[20:08] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: that's in my case of course. So first, you'd have to verify that the NC is actually communicating with the (CLC/NC/SC/Walrus)
[20:10] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: it keeps doing this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/568889/
[20:10] <RoAkSoAx> every 10 secds
[20:11] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: I will reset the rig Tuesday and check then (smoser is using it now on 10.04.2, and Daviey will use it during the weekend/Monday)
[20:11] <smoser> thanks hggdh
[20:12] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: but I remember the NCs satrted OK, then would not come back up
[20:12] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: what do you see on the NC logs?
[20:12] <linuxtech> To answer my earlier question in case someone is looking for it... smtp_reserve_hosts = <IP_ADDRESS> and smtp_load_reserve = 0 get the 421 host.domain: Too much load; please try again later.  Then after I have the new server done, maybe 10 minutes once I am ready, the hubbed_host will deliver all mail to the new server, change dns and I am done I hope...s
[20:13] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/568890/
[20:13] <RoAkSoAx> that repeats itself over and over and over
[20:13] <RoAkSoAx> I'm gonna check my NC and make sure it is working properly
[20:14] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: but I still think there might be another issue than we can discuss on tuesday, after you install it again and I take a look at it
[20:15] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: certainly. Do you see, in the NC logs, anything about it going on powersave?
[20:16] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: no nothing
[20:16] <hggdh> weird
[20:16] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: it just tries to wake the server up all over and over and over again
[20:17] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: and you do see, in the syslog, powersave kicking in?
[20:17] <MarkusT> Trying to install Ubuntu Server UCE (from packages) on a server with 4 static public IP addresses. I'm however unable to get /etc/network/interfaces right. I end up either unable to access the instances, or (if I change the IP setup) they don't start at all. How do I set this up? Here's what I've got so far for "interfaces": http://piratepad.net/OzICpkq6Le
[20:19] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: no nothing!! When you have the test rig up, I'll give you a powernap config for you to test so that we can discard if its that or it isn't
[20:19] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: deal
[20:19] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: unfortunately I can't really do much without appropriate HW, cause the issues I experience might also be related to network in kvm
[20:20] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: no problem, we will do it on Tuesday.
[20:20] <RoAkSoAx> cool ;)
[20:21] <owen1> from some reason my site is using old static files (css/images/js). anyone knows how to find the location where nginx cache my files/
[20:21] <owen1> ?
[20:30] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: NC httpd-nc_error_log: apache2: symbol lookup error: /etc/eucalyptus/axis2/services/EucalyptusNC/libEucalyptusNC.so: undefined symbol: rampart_print_security_processed_results_set
[20:30] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: ugh
[20:31] <Daviey> hggdh, good to see it's getting use
[20:31] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: I guess a bug is warranted for this
[20:31] <hggdh> Daviey: don't you ever sleep? :-)
[20:31] <azertyu> hello, this is just an example : i got 3 files on /home/user1, each  file respectivaly named file1, file2, file3,and also each file contain the word    linux_one linux_two linux_tree
[20:31] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ^^ ideas?
[20:32] <azertyu> by doing grep -R linux_ /home/user1 it display : linux_one linux_two linux_tree
[20:34] <azertyu> i simply need a command that catch the linux_ attached word from each file and copy it on a specific directory
[20:34] <azertyu> how to do ?
[20:34] <azertyu> sorry on a specific file
[20:34] <azertyu> how to do ?
[20:34] <hggdh> azertyu: you are grepping the directory
[20:35] <hggdh> grep -R linux_ /home/user1/*
[20:35] <azertyu> yes that's works fine
[20:36] <arrrghhh> hey all.  trying to run a server within a vbox vm.  i am behind a corporate firewall, and i'm having a heckuva time getting ubuntu server to 'see' the outside world.
[20:36] <arrrghhh> i tried a static IP thru a bridged cxn, and it was able to ping within the LAN and DNS would resolve to an IP, but i still couldn't get the proxy to work...
[20:37] <azertyu> once it grepping, i need a command that just only catch the word without the path and store on specific file how to do ?
[20:38] <hggdh> azertyu: man grep -- it is an option to grep to just pass the file name
[20:38] <hggdh> azertyu: probably -l
[20:40] <hggdh> azertyu: oops. Not quite what you asked, perhaps. You need the file names that match?
[20:41] <azertyu> no
[20:41] <azertyu> you still don't get my point
[20:42] <ghostlines> I'm having a problem booting my system when I boot without an external drive connected, although I specify nobootwait in my fstab. Anyone have any ideas why this happens?
[20:44] <guntbert> azertyu: grep always prints whole lines, not single words
[20:45] <azertyu> when i do grep -R linux_  /home/user1
[20:45] <azertyu> it gives :
[20:45] <azertyu> /home/user1/file1:linux_one
[20:45] <azertyu> /home/user1/file2:linux_two
[20:45] <azertyu> /home/user1/file3:linux_tree
[20:45] <hggdh> and what do you want?
[20:46] <azertyu> now i m looking for command, which is taking the " word " linux_one linux_two linux_tree on s
[20:46] <arrrghhh> are you wanting to parse this data?
[20:46] <azertyu> a specific file, let say gobal_file
[20:46] <arrrghhh> something like sed?
[20:47] <azertyu> no
[20:47] <azertyu> just copy
[20:47] <arrrghhh> sorry i missed the original requirements.
[20:47] <azertyu> what ?
[20:48] <arrrghhh> i missed your original request.
[20:49] <hggdh> well. grep -h > results.lst?
[20:49] <azertyu> azertyu>	when i do grep -R linux_ /home/user1
[20:49] <azertyu> 	<azertyu>	it gives :
[20:49] <azertyu> 	<azertyu>	/home/user1/file1:linux_one
[20:49] <azertyu> 	<azertyu>	/home/user1/file2:linux_two
[20:49] <azertyu> 	<azertyu>	/home/user1/file3:linux_tree
[20:49] <guntbert> azertyu: if I understand what you want: try    grep -R linux_  /home/user1 > file_with_linux
[20:51] <azertyu> what i mean is : is it possible to do something like : grep -R linux /home/user1 > global_file to able to copy just only the word without the path
[20:51] <azertyu> yes
[20:51] <hggdh> sigh.
[20:51] <arrrghhh> lol
[20:52] <hggdh> grep -h linux_ /home/user1/* > THIS_IS_THE_OUTPUT
[20:52] <azertyu> yes
[20:52] <azertyu> i got one part of my question
[20:53] <azertyu> if i do vi file_with_linux
[20:54] <azertyu> i got something like that :
[20:54] <azertyu> azertyu>	/home/user1/file1:linux_one
[20:54] <azertyu> 	<azertyu>	/home/user1/file2:linux_two
[20:54] <azertyu> 	<azertyu>	/home/user1/file3:linux_tree
[20:55] <hggdh> azertyu: please see my last post
[20:55] <azertyu> i simply need to output just only the word, i mean linux_one, linux_two, linux_tree without /home/user1/file
[20:56] <arrrghhh> azertyu, yes see his last post.
[20:58] <azertyu> grep -l ?
[20:59] <hggdh> grep -h
[20:59] <hggdh> azertyu: 'man grep' shows all possible options
[20:59] <smoser> jjohansen, :-( straight to terminated
[21:00] <smoser> jjohansen, shoot. hold on.
[21:01] <azertyu> super merci
[21:01] <azertyu> thanks a lot
[21:01] <azertyu> working now
[21:01] <hggdh> de rien
[21:01] <arrrghhh> so... anyone feel like helping me struggle thru proxy and network settings on a 10.10 VM?
[21:01] <azertyu> thanks a lot hggdh
[21:02] <luite> is there a some place to get a vmlinux type kernel image for 10.04 lts server? I need to boot one from a very old xen, which doesn't support bzImage
[21:06] <smoser> a very old xen is not liekly to be able to boot any official kernel from 10.04
[21:07] <luite> I've seen several tutorials with xen 3.2 that claim that it works, the pv interface should still support the older xen
[21:08] <luite> but yes, the official kernel is a bzImage, which doesn't work. a vmlinux image should though (I hope :) )
[21:09] <zul> smoser: words of wisdom?
[21:10] <smoser> luite, where would you get a paravirt kernel for 10.04 ?
[21:10] <zul> how convient....have a good weekend
[21:10] <smoser> if you mean a pv_ops, i would have thought that "very old xen" would have meant that it wasn't going to run a pv_ops kernel
[21:12] <luite> oh yes I guess I meant pv_ops :) it's xen 3.2.1pre that comes with hardy
[21:15] <luite> vmlinuz-2.6.35-23-virtual should support pv_ops, right?
[21:16] <smoser> it is, yes.
[21:18] <luite> ok, guess I'll try to build my own from the sources of that package then
[21:22] <smoser> jjohansen, can you get me that source deb ?
[21:22] <smoser> the kernels appear to boot, but in order to test it fully, i actually have to rebundle...
[21:23] <smoser> i'd like to let the ppa build your kernel and move on from there.
[21:25] <jjohansen> smoser: I didn't build a source deb
[21:26] <smoser> can you build one ?
[21:26] <smoser> i can even give you access to upload it to ubuntu-on-ec2
[21:26] <smoser> (
[21:26] <smoser> (i'd prefer that)
[21:26] <jjohansen> smoser: sure give me access to upload it and I'll do it, other wise I can shoot you a tar.gz
[21:31] <smoser> jjohansen, ok. i think you should be good to upload there nhow
[21:32] <jjohansen> smoser: okay, I'll give it a try
[22:03] <smoser> jjohansen, were you able to upload?
[22:03] <jjohansen> smoser: sorry not their yet, I'm regenerating the abi
[22:15] <Mark__> hey all. I'm trying to run PHPSQLITECMS, and i have all its requirements installed, but i get an error saying i don't have a driver, i don't understand that
[22:15] <Mark__> my link is http://tm0.org/
[22:19] <hallyn> Mark__: so what's on line 30 of /var/www/cms/includes/classes/Database.class.php ?
[22:19] <hallyn> not that i know a thing about php
[22:23] <jjohansen> smoser: dput reports success
[22:24] <jjohansen> smoser: I'll watch to make sure the build completes this weekend, if it fails for some reason I will fix and reupload
[22:47] <hggdh> jjohansen: can you please ping me when the upload to ec2 is done? I still need to test it, and probably will do it during the weekend/Monday
[22:48] <jjohansen> hggdh: hrmmm, I've never done the official upload to ec2, I may poke at it but it may have to wait for smoser.  We will see how the weekend goes
[22:49] <hggdh> jjohansen: np, we will go with the flow ;-)
[23:03] <raubvogel> I was reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPMI and ended up confused: do you need openipmi *and* ipmitools or they are equivalent tools?
[23:13] <smoser> jjohansen, it failed to build
[23:13] <smoser> looks like bad config
[23:14] <jjohansen> smoser: I'll look at it
[23:53] <hallyn> cmagina: so, if you're game, a went ahead and tried to merge debian unstable multipath.  I may get a chance to install it mid next week, but haven't yet.  http://people.canonical.com/~serge/mp-merge-sid.tgz has the .debs
[23:54] <hallyn> cmagina: (source is at lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/natty/multipath-tools/merge-sid)
[23:54] <cmagina> hallyn: i'll see if i can take a look this weekend


[01:22] <fta> [reed], http://glandium.org/blog/?p=185
[01:26] <[reed]> sigh, whatever
[01:27] <fta> "I’m not sure I still want to bother diverging from upstream"
[01:27] <[reed]> you all have managed to it just fine
[01:27] <[reed]> I dunno what his problem is
[01:28] <[reed]> he just likes to complain a lot
[01:28] <[reed]> and flaunt Iceweasel around
[01:39] <fta> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725287
[08:53] <Arenlor> hi I was wondering if any of you could help me with getting Sunbird to work
[13:03] <fta> [reed], http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725962
[13:03] <fta> seen that ?
[13:06] <fta> mozilla bug 409803
[13:06] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 409803 in Build Config "gcc 4.1/4.2 zealously avoid inlining at -Os" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409803
[13:26] <[reed]> fta: yes, I see that all the time
[13:26] <[reed]> it's a really super-annoying bug
[13:26] <[reed]> on my top #5
[13:26] <[reed]> list of bugs that drive me insane
[13:38] <[reed]> mozilla bug 404314
[13:38] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 404314 in XP Toolkit/Widgets: Menus "when I click on a menu instead of click and hold it randomly selects a menu item and activates it" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404314
[13:38] <[reed]> fta_: ^^
[13:38] <[reed]> tell that guy about the bug
[13:38] <fta_> thx
[13:39] <fta> damn xchat is not able to retake my initial nick
[15:56] <fta> armin76, mozilla bug 420151
[15:56] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 420151 in Security: PSM "FF3Beta5 should use updated NSS tag NSS_3_12_BETA3" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420151
[15:56] <armin76> nspr-4.7.1_beta2 was out as well
[15:57] <fta> yep, it's in the patch
[15:57] <fta> freshly committed
[15:57] <armin76> time to update, then :)
[16:00] <fta> they are even talking about nss 3.12 final
[16:01] <armin76> well, considering nspr-4.7 was out already...
[16:02] <fta> mozilla bug 406755
[16:02] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 406755 in Security: PSM "EV certs not recognized as EV with some cross-certification scenarios" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406755
[16:02] <fta> mozilla bug 415033
[16:02] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 415033 in Security: PSM "Enable TLS session ticket extension in FF" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415033
[16:03] <fta> mozilla bug 294531
[16:03] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 294531 in Libraries "Design new interfaces for certificate path building and verification for libPKIX" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294531
[17:06] <armin76> eeew
[17:06] <armin76> b4 fails to build for me with those upgrades...
[17:06] <armin76> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5739/
[17:07] <armin76> fta: ^
[17:08] <fta> b4 ? it's for b5pre
[17:08] <armin76> it should build anyway, no? :P
[17:09] <armin76> i'll see what is...if nss or nspr
[17:09] <armin76> well, looks like nss, for that error :P
[17:10] <armin76> i guess that means it will fail with ff2 then
[17:11] <fta> could be trivial. I'm on something else right now. I'll look at this later, unless you figured out before
[17:12] <armin76> nah, don't worry, i don't think i can fix it :P
[17:13] <armin76> i'll try with ff2, though
[17:20] <fta> expect the same failure ;)
[18:43] <shirish> asac: when you come up, please have a look at bug 202468
[18:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 202468 in ubuntu "FFe: update swfdec-* to 0.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202468
[18:43] <shirish> the guy has done all the work, if there's something else which needs to be done, please put it up
[18:43] <shirish> it would be nice to see swfdec 0.6 in Hardy if possible
[18:44]  * shirish out
[18:53] <robertchahine> hi everybody
[18:53] <robertchahine> i've just installed mozilla firefox 3 beta 4
[18:53] <robertchahine> and installed the java6
[18:54] <robertchahine> but don't know how to install the java plugin of mozilla
[18:54] <robertchahine> ??
[19:07] <robertchahine> anybody there :)
[19:07] <robertchahine> ?
[19:11] <robertchahine> 've just installed mozilla firefox 3 beta 4
[19:11] <robertchahine> and installed the java6
[19:11] <robertchahine>  but don't know how to install the java plugin of mozilla
[19:33] <armin76> fta: it didn't fail
[19:33] <armin76> hi asac
[19:47] <fta> bug 202954
[19:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 202954 in firefox-3.0 "firefox-3.0 received an X Window System error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202954
[19:49] <fta> armin76, thunderbird-3.0-3.0~a1~cvs20080313t1324+nobinonly fails at the same place
[19:49] <fta> oh! 0313
[20:14] <fta> armin76, it's not worth fixing. that would mean backporting half of mozilla bug 406755
[20:14] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 406755 in Security: PSM "EV certs not recognized as EV with some cross-certification scenarios" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406755
[20:17] <[reed]> mozilla Bug 420151, FF3Beta5 should use updated NSS tag NSS_3_12_BETA3
[20:17] <[reed]> Also updating NSPR tag to NSPR_4_7_1_BETA2
[20:17] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 420151 in Security: PSM "FF3Beta5 should use updated NSS tag NSS_3_12_BETA3" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420151
[20:18] <fta> sm2 and tb3 are broken because of that
[20:18] <fta> xul and ff3 are ok
[21:32] <fta> sm2 is fine
[22:49] <fta> armin76, i get a core dump on startup now
[22:54] <fta> (gdb) bt
[22:54] <fta> #0  free (ptr=0x805e9d8) at jemalloc.c:4222
[22:54] <fta> #1  0xb78dc47a in NS_CompareVersions (A=0x805e998 "1.9b5pre", B=0xb7b9ef1c "1.9b5pre") at nsVersionComparator.cpp:220
[22:54] <fta> #2  0xb714fe01 in XRE_main (argc=1, argv=0xbfd48764, aAppData=0x805dfe8) at nsAppRunner.cpp:2568
[22:54] <fta> so much for jemalloc


[08:45] <nzoueidi> elacheche: :(
[08:46] <elacheche> Morning nzoueidi
[08:46] <elacheche> :)
[08:46] <nzoueidi> Morning, how are you?
[08:47] <nzoueidi> I didn't got the time to apply, and apparently they have closed the form to fill about workshops
[08:52] <elacheche> No problem nzoueidi.. I didn't had time to do so too..
[08:52] <elacheche> :(
[08:53] <elacheche> I was busy thinking about too much problems that I didn't had time to take actions when needed :/
[08:53] <nzoueidi> At least we have a stand, right?
[08:53] <nzoueidi> same here
[08:54] <elacheche> Yep, I applied for that in time
[08:58] <nzoueidi> Good.
[12:51] <elacheche> nzoueidi: you got the revirification mail?
[12:51] <nzoueidi> Yep
[12:52] <elacheche> Just checking that it's not marked as spam :p
[13:33] <nzoueidi> Hopefully not :D