[22:12] <xominous> AshtonK: I had you check that file to make sure we were looking at the right number.
[22:12] <aaron> jrib, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2008-06-18 17:33 /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox/firefox
[22:12] <mallochigh> and don't have your gui infront of me.
[22:12] <marshal0605> 23:11 < gidna> I have a problem with ubuntu I can't listen to the pronunciation here http://www.wordreference.com/enit/leather
[22:12] <aaron> jrib,  still there
[22:12] <zachb> This is getting really annoying. X is randomly crashing, bringing me back to the login screen
[22:12] <Manueltje22> Im now here with the live cd.
[22:12] <jrib> aaron: k, what does this return: dpkg-divert --list '*firefox*'
[22:12] <njm> hi
[22:12] <marshal0605> gidna sorry bout that
[22:12] <zachb> Googling, I've only seen the problem w/ intel cards, but I'm using nvidia
[22:12] <Don> dose xubuntu work as server with an tower pc (800 MHz 2 GB Ram)?
[22:12] <hblount> xominus: thanks its working!
[22:12] <Swiatecki> Hi there, when trying to update to 8.10 via Update manager i get this error . "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/base-files/base-files_4.0.4ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 404 Not Found" - the files does not exist - any ideas on how I can complete my update?
[22:13] <gidna> what's the matter?
[22:13] <aaron> jrib, local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu
[22:13] <aaron> local diversion of /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox to /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox.ubuntu
[22:13] <dunas> Someone on a laptop is telling me that lspci returns 'command not found' in terminal, does anyone have a solution for that?
[22:13] <xominous> AshtonK: Heh, I know that. I was just making sure that coincidentally a stick of ram didn't die or something.
[22:13] <njm> هل يوجد عرب؟
[22:13] <ldiamond> njm, this is an english channel
[22:13] <Don> dose xubuntu work as server with an tower pc (800 MHz 2 GB Ram)?
[22:13] <Manueltje22> Can I also talk dutch in here?
[22:13] <ljuwaidah> njm: n3m
[22:13] <ldiamond> !dutch
[22:13] <xominous> AshtonK: If the Kernel can't see it, and your BIOS does.  Then it's over my head of how to fix it.  Sorry :(
[22:13] <Flannel> !sa | njm
[22:13] <hblount> xominus: wait, is it downloading from mozilla and installing? or installing from the file i already got? i see its downloading something at 50 k/s
[22:13] <Manueltje22> ty :)
[22:13] <jrib> aaron: do this: sudo rm /usr/bin/firefox && sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/bin/firefox
[22:14] <xominous> AshtonK: Other than of course, maybe restarting.  But it's not likely.
[22:14] <tab1293> do you guys know if there is any linux port for the game portal?
[22:14] <mallochigh> crazy..
[22:14] <jrib> tab1293: portal runs in wine
[22:14] <njm> كيف انظ للفريق السعودي
[22:14] <tab1293> jrib: but i meant like free one
[22:14] <jrib> tab1293: oh
[22:14] <ldiamond> njm, nobody here knows what you're saying
[22:14] <Gorthax> ^along with most others
[22:14] <dunas> tab1293: That'd be a no
[22:14] <TechN9ne1730> mallochigh, is there a way to roll back the drivers?
[22:14] <jrib> njm: english only here please
[22:14] <aaron> jrib, ok and...
[22:14] <Don> dose xubuntu work as server with an tower pc (800 MHz 2 GB Ram)?
[22:14] <ldiamond> !sa > njm
[22:14] <AsthonK> xominous: Fair enough, going to look to see if there's a bug reported somewhere, or if a fresh install would be wiser.... Wish I had put my /home on a different partition!
[22:14] <Gorthax> then theres cedega for those that do not
[22:15] <jrib> aaron: now do 'ls -l /usr/bin/firefox'
[22:15] <gidna> Can you help me?
[22:15] <dunas> Gorthax: I like Crossover, personally.
[22:15] <tab1293> i havent tried playing css in wine in a long time. is it any better?
[22:15] <xominous> AshtonK:  Good luck!
[22:15] <ljuwaidah> njm: uktub /join #ubuntu-sa
[22:15] <guntbert> dunas: for lspci, who was that?
[22:15] <njm> I SAUDI
[22:15] <btakita> Which repo is Git 1.6 in?
[22:15] <dunas> guntbert: Friend of mine, nevermind, apparently he read it as ispci
[22:15] <jrib> tab1293: works fine (well)
[22:15] <mallochigh> TechN9ne1730:  No. ? Maybe in grub you have an old kernel listed. This is very fixable, but really I don't have the support skills to help you quickly.
[22:15] <Gorthax> i like cedega for the install option, havent tried crossover
[22:15] <aaron> jrib, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2008-11-01 18:11 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
[22:15] <hblount> xominous: wait, is it downloading from mozilla and installing? or installing from the file i already got? i see its downloading something at 50 k/s
[22:15] <Flannel> !sa | njm
[22:15] <Don> dose xubuntu work as server with an tower pc (800 MHz 2 GB Ram)?
[22:15] <marshal0605> tab1293 for me its perfect css:source in wine
[22:15] <mallochigh> You really need to google you card how to install it for 15 minutes or so, and just do it.
[22:15] <Azhi_Dahaka> thrice... i have uninstalled and installed everything called vlc thrice and still no image
[22:16] <jrib> aaron: cool.  The other link doesn't exist anymore so you can just remove the diversion (the mozilla-firefox one)
[22:16] <zn3t|hp> :o
[22:16] <tab1293> marshal0605: ok thanks
[22:16] <mallochigh> Generally its pretty easy, 30 mins or so.
[22:16] <jepp> does anyone has this embedded grey window while watching flash?
[22:16] <TechN9ne1730> mallochigh, , i been searching for hours
[22:16] <TechN9ne1730> mallochigh, it got me no where
[22:16] <aaron> jrib, how do I do that sorry
[22:16] <MementoMori> hi
[22:16] <Don> dose xubuntu work as server with an tower pc (800 MHz 2 GB Ram)?
[22:16] <Gorthax> what card Tech
[22:16] <guntbert> dunas: ok, I always recommend using tab-completion, especially for newbies
[22:16] <mallochigh> Hmm..
[22:16] <dr_willis> don  ubuntu can work as a server.. that machine can proberly handle basic serving tasks
[22:16] <xominous> AshtonK: If you're still here.  You can move your /home directory to a different partition.  It's sort of technical, but not bad.  And there are a few good guides on the internet.  Just run a google search and see what you find.
[22:16] <jrib> aaron: sudo rm /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox && sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[22:17] <mallochigh> whats the card again
[22:17] <mallochigh> exactly?
[22:17] <njm> الروم مافيه احد
[22:17] <zn3t|hp> EVERYBODY!
[22:17] <zn3t|hp> switch to linspire 6
[22:17] <TechN9ne1730> Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
[22:17] <xominous> hblount: It's downloading and installing from Ubuntu's repositories.
[22:17] <Don> thanks
[22:17] <zn3t|hp> nao
[22:17] <FloodBot3> zn3t|hp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <ldiamond> njm listen!
[22:17] <zn3t|hp> switch to linspire 6!
[22:17] <ldiamond> !sa > njm
[22:17] <zn3t|hp> switch to linspire 6!
[22:17] <jrib> njm: /join #ubuntu-arabic
[22:17] <mallochigh> zn3t|hp:  stfu
[22:17] <csilk> that was a fail troll
[22:17] <chazco> Hi... i'm trying to use the "video project" feature in Brasero, but the burn button is greyed out... any ideas?
[22:17] <MementoMori> can I ask here for an ltsp related question or is there a better chan?
[22:17] <zn3t|hp> its the most awesome os ever
[22:17] <Gorthax> the broad com drivers are in the restricted drivers
[22:17] <jrib> zn3t|hp: stop please
[22:17] <zn3t|hp> it owns the fuck out of ubuntu
[22:18] <hblount> xominous: oh. so can i delete the tar.gz file i downloaded from website and the extraction that i made?
[22:18] <AsthonK> xominous: Thanks, I can probably handle that one, I'm fairly comfortable with stuff like that. It's just a pain since I should've done it to start.
[22:18] <MissingNo> O_o
[22:18] <flask-> Oh... Ubuntu.... fglrx.... shoot me in the head
[22:18] <MementoMori> !ltsp
[22:18] <tab1293> marshal0605: what guide did you follow to get css working?
[22:18] <MementoMori> !edubuntuhandbook
[22:18] <xominous> hblount: Yeah, that should be fine.
[22:18] <jrib> !appdb > tab1293
[22:18] <hblount> xominous: thanks yo
[22:19] <xominous> AshtonK: Ok, great.  Well good luck, I hope you get it fixed :)
[22:19] <mallochigh> TechN9ne1730:  do an lspci
[22:19] <volfied> Hi, I have a thinkpad x61 with 8.10, had this problem since 7.04, my speaker sound is really low, although I get nice volume from my headphones, can anyone help?
[22:19] <AsthonK> xominous: Thanks.
[22:19] <tab1293> jrib what?
[22:19] <aaron> jrib, what should my firefox version be?
[22:19] <jrib> tab1293: ubottu sent you a private message with a link to winehq's appdb.  They tell you how to install steam and portal
[22:19] <Manueltje22> But someone knows what I must do with "initramfs"?
[22:19] <paul__> Can someone give me a command in order to reload the window manager?
[22:20] <njm> دخلت في روم بس لايوجد فيه الا خمس اشخاص ):
[22:20] <tab1293> jrib ohh i see thanks
[22:20] <N1ghshd> Q: After upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 the 'Places->Home Folder' starts Mplayer?
[22:20] <jrib> aaron: 3 something
[22:20] <Don> what kind of pc do i need for a normal data server
[22:20] <aaron> it only said 3.0.0
[22:20] <Bsims> paul__: ctrl alt backspace forces a kill and reload
[22:20] <jrib> aaron: what is "it"?
[22:20] <roy_hobbs> Hey I'm having some problems with printing since installing 8.10.  First, most of the time when I try to print to a Windows share, I get an error message like: "Error printing  Too many failed attempts."  It seems that printing a test page works fine though.  Also, where did the pdf printer go?
[22:20] <erUSUL> !ar | njm
[22:20] <aaron> jrib, 3.0
[22:20] <erUSUL> !farsi
[22:21] <ompaul> !sa | njm
[22:21] <Don> what kind of pc do i need for a normal data server
[22:21] <TechN9ne1730> mallochigh , what do you want me to look for, it lists alot of stuff and the Broadcom card i refered to
[22:21] <paul__> Bsims: I need a command so that i can add it to my sessions , that way Emerald themer will automatically get activated on startup.
[22:21] <mikello> hello
[22:21] <njm> ممكن سؤال ياشباب انتم وش قاعد تسوون
[22:21] <jrib> aaron: how are you checking the version?
[22:21] <mikello> i am newbie
[22:21] <xominous> aaron: Maybe try "sudo apt-get update $$ sudo apt-get upgrade" ?  Or have you and jrib already tried that?
[22:21] <aaron> jrib,  firefox --version
[22:21] <mikello> first time on irc :P
[22:21] <dr_willis> paul__,  install the fusion-icon tool. it is good at managing compiz/window decorations that way
[22:21] <Bsims> paul__: Ok you are asking about something different I've no clue try checking the forums
[22:22] <Don> what kind of pc do i need for a normal data server
[22:22] <mikello> ktos z polski  ?; ]
[22:22] <paul__> dr_willis: i have it , but everytime i restart i have to click Reload Window Manager for the emerald themer to work.
[22:22] <jin_> how do I know if my ffmpeg version has X264 support or not?
[22:22] <Bsims> Don: gonna use it as file server?
[22:22] <dr_willis> paul__,  you do have it set to auto run/load?
[22:22] <jrib> !pl | mikello
[22:22] <mikello> thx
[22:22] <Bsims> Don: just get one with lots of disk
[22:22] <jrib> jin_: use the ffmpeg from medibuntu
[22:22] <Don> yes
[22:22] <paul__> dr_willis: nope
[22:22] <jrib> !medibuntu > jin_
[22:23] <aaron> jrib,   firefox --version
[22:23] <Don> and as a web server
[22:23] <Don> what do i need ther
[22:23] <Bsims> overhead is fairly low... and you'll want to brush up on samba
[22:23] <jin_> jrib, I think I installed the version from menibuntu but I just want to verify the X264 support
[22:23] <dr_willis> paul__,  :) thats proberly an issue then.  or you use the ccsm tool to  set the window decoration   (thats what fusion-icon also does)
[22:23] <jrib> aaron: apt-cache policy firefox-3.0
[22:23] <paul__> dr_willis: how can i set it to auto run/load ?
[22:23] <Bsims> Don: Stock cheap from dell.. install linux, and samba
[22:23] <aaron> jrib, firefox-3.0:
[22:23] <aaron>   Installed: 3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[22:23] <aaron>   Candidate: 3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[22:23] <aaron>   Version table:
[22:23] <aaron>  *** 3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 0
[22:23] <FloodBot3> aaron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <aaron>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
[22:24] <dr_willis> paul__,  put it in your gnome-sessions started apps
[22:24] <dr_willis> !autostart | paul__
[22:24] <Don> thanks
[22:24] <CardiacKid> why would a shared folder from my vista machine show up on my XP laptop ofer wifi, but not showup in my ubuntu machine which is wired to the same router as the vista machine?
[22:24] <francisco> Greetings!
[22:24] <atomic_> ...I seem to have wifi issues in 8.10 . All my interfaces and networks are listed twice in nm-applet and I seem to get fairly bad fluctuating lag while i'm sitting here in IRC, sometimes to the point I timeout. This also seems to effect my web browsing too at the exact same time
[22:24] <jrib> aaron: run 'hash -r' then try 'firefox --version' again
[22:24] <aaron> jrib,  how do I completely remove firefox and then start clean
[22:24] <jrib> jin_: ffmpeg --help   should tell you the compile options used
[22:25] <Bsims> CardiacKid: do you have samba installed its needed to do window networking
[22:25] <jrib> aaron: we don't need to do that
[22:25] <paul__> dr_willis: to make emerald work after reboot not only i have to run compiz icon i also have to choose reload window manager
[22:25] <pjazzy> i had issues with my WiFi after upgrading, I rebooted and it magically worked again :|
[22:25] <francisco> How I can change my Xorg Config to make my desktop initialize at a certain resolution? It allways changes to 1024 768 after a reboot.
[22:25] <xominous> aaron: It looks like you have 3.0.3, which is the latest official release.
[22:25] <N1ghshd> Q: After upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10, 'Places->Home Folder' starts Mplayer?
[22:25] <billybigrigger> hmm...when a cups server is running port 631 should be open correct? nmap doesnt show it open, but it start fine by running /etc/init.d/cups start, even restarted it
[22:25] <Don> bsims how do i get an www. adress with my home server
[22:26] <CardiacKid> Bsims, yes. The ubuntu box is serving shared folders over the network. it just can't see the vista shares, although it does see the vista machine
[22:26] <Swiatecki> Hi there, when trying to update to 8.10 via Update manager i get this error . "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/base-files/base-files_4.0.4ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 404 Not Found" - the files does not exist - any ideas on how I can complete my update?..
[22:26] <billybigrigger> im trying to share the printer on my server with my laptop
[22:26] <aaron> jrib, when I do help about mozilla firefox it saids 3.0
[22:26] <Bsims> Don: Hrm apache?
[22:26] <dr_willis> paul__,  on my laptop - i have it set to run 'fusion-icon' at login, and i just enable/disable compiz and the window-decorator from that tool and it seems to handle it all for me.
[22:26] <Manueltje22> Somebody knows initramfs?
[22:26] <Don> ???
[22:26] <khelll> am getting this error when trying to upgrade Error authenticating some packages
[22:26] <Saila> dcnlqksdjc
[22:26] <kidbuntu> i have a problem with 8.10 after an upgrade from net. whenever i click my places---->pictures or documents or home. it loads screem
[22:26] <Bsims> CardiacKid: Hrm no idea... maybe vista does it differently... no idea I don't run a full lan at home
[22:26] <jrib> aaron: ok.  What does /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 --version  tell you?
[22:26] <hblount> hi. i am setting up thunderbird because i read that you can download hotmail stuff with it. i am setting it up right now.  when it asks for my email, do i put hotmail one? and what is outgoing server?
[22:26] <woli> there are some applications which don't sound any more in intrepid ibes...
[22:27] <woli> like paintown and unreal 2004
[22:27] <tacone> my intrepid install failed to setup grub bootloader. is anyone available to help me set it up at hand ?
[22:27] <mimor> I want to rsync my .evolution folder, but the only thing that's visible on my laptop after rsync are the contacts
[22:27] <N1ghshd> kidbuntu: I have almost the same problem. Here mplayer is started when I go to 'Places->Home Folder' etc
[22:27] <CardiacKid> at one point it did see the folders from the vista machine. the I restarted the ubuntu machine and couldn't see the folders.
[22:27] <volfied> I have really low volume on speakers on a thinkpad x61, can someone help?
[22:27] <ljuwaidah> later
[22:27] <Bsims> CardiacKid: Hrm not a clue... sorry
[22:28] <aaron> jrib,  thanks for the help I have to run now I will try when I get a back
[22:28] <kidbuntu> N1ghshd: have you fixed yours?
[22:28] <CardiacKid> no problem.
[22:28] <khelll> am getting this error when trying to upgrade "Error authenticating some packages " , here is my sources.list http://pastie.org/305628 , what should i keep???
[22:28] <jrib> aaron: everything should be working, just restart your terminal and firefox
[22:28] <N1ghshd> volfied: Pushed the 'Volume UP' buttons on the laptop already I guess? :)
[22:28] <Bsims> CardiacKid: try asking in #samba
[22:28] <volfied> The volumes are all up, I get really nice sound with headphones
[22:28] <xominous> hblount: You'll probably have to check on the microsoft website.  It's probably something like, imap.hotmail.com or something.  But I have no idea.  Try a google search for it.
[22:28] <volfied> speakers are giving out low volume
[22:28] <Hammer89> INTREPID OWNS
[22:28] <N1ghshd> kidbuntu: Nope, that's why I'am asking here - hoping it's a known issue after upgrades from 8.04->8.10
[22:28] <CardiacKid> I'm a total noob. how do I switch to #samba?
[22:29] <jin_> jrib, when I do apt-get install ffmpeg, how do I know which version it is installing? because I also have Intrepid + medibuntu enabled.
[22:29] <wolfspirit> how do you determine the number of your hard drive for grub?  it's the slave hard drive and first partition so I used hd1,0 but it didn't work.. is there a scan tool I can use to get those values?
[22:29] <Bsims> CardiacKid: /join #samba
[22:29] <jin_> how*
[22:29] <ldiamond> Can anyone help me with Video problem? I'm stuck in low graphic mode. I want to use Nvidia drivers or the default drivers (they're better than nothing)
[22:29] <Bsims> jin_: apt-cache show ffmpeg
[22:29] <Bsims> in a terminal
[22:29] <kidbuntu> N1ghshd: crap if i had known this i would have stayed at 8.04
[22:29] <volfied> N1ghshd: I get nice volume with headphones, it is the speakers that are really low
[22:29] <CardiacKid> where do I put that?
[22:29] <jrib> jin_: apt-cache policy ffmpeg    I don't see ffmpeg in medibuntu for intrepid though
[22:29] <hblount> xominous: is the incoming and outcoming server the same thing then?
[22:29] <Flannel> hblount: You can only read hotmail via POP if you have an old account.  They stopped the free POP access a few years ago.  You can, however, use a scraper which will act as a POP server.  Try one of these: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hotmail&searchon=all&suite=intrepid&section=all
[22:30] <Bsims> CardiacKid: just type it
[22:30] <CardiacKid> ha, thanks
[22:30] <dr_willis> ldiamond,  standard questions you will get asked.. :) what video card, what kind of monitor/connection of monitor, are you using a KVM? :)
[22:30] <CardiacKid>  /join #samba
[22:30] <KumoGone> Why can't the system administrator login from the login screen?
[22:30] <atomic_> In the latest Evolution in 8.10, when I go to the Unread folder and click on something in there to read, when it gets marked as unread (autmatically), it gets removed from the Unread folder and the next unread email is displayed, then that gets marked as unread and removed from that folder and 3rd email is displayed, and so and so forth. I just have to click on 1 email in the unread folder and it'll cycle through the whol
[22:30] <atomic_> e lot 1 by 1 marking them as unread and removing them and moving onto the next, even if I haven't read it
[22:30] <N1ghshd> kidbuntu: It's 1-way.. but I guess we will have our fix in a few days
[22:30] <jin_> jrib, so how do I get X264 support then? :(
[22:30] <Bsims> Hrm what client are you using?
[22:30] <francisco> Nvidia X Server Settings is different from /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[22:30] <jrib> jin_: rebuild the package yourself I guess
[22:30] <CardiacKid> xchat
[22:30] <ldiamond> Can anyone help me with Video problem? I'm stuck in low graphic mode. I want to use Nvidia drivers or the default drivers (they're better than nothing). I have a Nvidia Geforce M 8700, on a laptop, so a laptop screen.
[22:30] <jin_> jrib, I really don't want to compile it myself
[22:30] <Bsims> Hrm look for chanel listing window somewhere
[22:30] <Bsims> I've not used xchat in years
[22:30] <xominous> hblount: Probably not.  Did you see anything on the hotmail/ms website?
[22:30] <PassionFRUI7E> How do you get the location of a file dragged on top of a script?
[22:31] <dr_willis> KumoGone,  its a security issue.. Root can not directly login.
[22:31] <erUSUL> ldiamond: System>Admin>Hardware Drivers?
[22:31] <Manueltje22> ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[22:31] <KumoGone> So how do I get logged in as root?
[22:31] <dr_willis> !sudo | KumoGone
[22:31] <Bsims> KumoGone: you don't just sudo
[22:31] <erUSUL> !root | KumoGone
[22:31] <atomic_> ...I seem to have wifi issues in 8.10 . All my interfaces and networks are listed twice in nm-applet and I seem to get fairly bad fluctuating lag while i'm sitting here in IRC, sometimes to the point I timeout. This also seems to effect my web browsing too at the exact same time . Don't have these issues in 8.04 . Have an onboard Intel Pro Wifi card
[22:31] <hblount> flannel: is it simple to setup this scraper thing?
[22:31] <pjazzy> to login as root, you use the command: sudo su
[22:31] <Manueltje22> If somebody can help me now?
[22:31] <Bsims> KumoGone: If you need it sudo su in a term
[22:31] <Bsims> Manueltje22: whats the problem
[22:31] <dr_willis> pjazzy,  its better to use 'sudo -s'
[22:31] <KumoGone> Ahh
[22:31] <N1ghshd> kidbuntu: Best thing to do now, is just file a bugreport at: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[22:31] <ldiamond> erUSUL,  I tried that, I had a decent resolution before that, now it failed and I'm stuck in 800x600 (cant change it to higher). It said there were no suitable monitor or something like that
[22:31] <Manueltje22> I only get initramfs
[22:32] <erUSUL> !rootshell | pjazzy
[22:32] <N1ghshd> kidbuntu: at least, that's what I'am doing now
[22:32] <CardiacKid> Bsim, I figured it out. thanks
[22:32] <pjazzy> i only know sudo su :D
[22:32] <PassionFRUI7E> In python/bash how do you get the location of a file dragged on top of a script?
[22:32] <pjazzy> thnx for the info though guys
[22:32] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[22:32] <KumoGone> Now to get my damn internet back.  Somehow
[22:32] <jrib> jin_: I don't mean downloading the ffmpeg tarball and compiling, I actually mean just rebuilding the package (apt-get install build-essential, apt-get build-dep ffmpeg, apt-get source ffmpeg, edit debian/rules, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -b)
[22:32] <Manueltje22> I just installed it and it's only displaying initramfs
[22:32] <KumoGone> Anyone know why ifconfig shows nothing but the loopback interface?
[22:32] <sken> i want help with my songbird
[22:33] <erUSUL> KumoGone: please post your "lshw -C Network" in pastebin
[22:33] <Manueltje22> ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso <= thats the iso file
[22:33] <erUSUL> !pastebin | KumoGone
[22:33] <pjazzy> KumoGone - you don't have any other interfaces active
[22:33] <KumoGone> ....
[22:33] <kidbuntu> N1ghshd: yeah your right. we really need to shout this out so they would do something about this. not unless only few people are affected
[22:33] <Flannel> hblount: I imagine it is, yes.  But I haven't done it personally.
[22:33] <KumoGone> Can't pastebin with no network connectivity...
[22:34] <KumoGone> I'm in the channel from my windows laptop.
[22:34] <PassionFRUI7E> That's cool how the made the bot commands act like bash with the pipe
[22:34] <KumoGone> er..Windows desktop
[22:34] <KumoGone> My Ubuntu laptop is the one with no internet.
[22:34] <hblount> flannel: can you tell which of the four on that site you posted is easier?
[22:34] <erUSUL> KumoGone: well tll us which nics do you have in you system
[22:34] <Bsims> KumoGone: does it see the network card?
[22:34] <sparr> is there a way to get apt (or aptitude or similar) to display a tree-ish view of how packages are causing each other to be installed/removed?
[22:34] <sken> help with songbird
[22:35] <jrib> jin_: there's a #medibuntu channel.  You might ask them about it
[22:35] <woli> sken i recommend you banshee instead...
[22:35] <billybigrigger> is there any way to get my webcam working for my pidgin account? im trying to video chat with someone on MSN
[22:35] <woli> songbird is quite buggy
[22:35] <jin_> jrib, I'm building it now :\
[22:35] <KumoGone> Wireless is Intel PROWireless 2100B mini PCI
[22:35] <Bsims> sparr: unsure... I know there is a package that checks dependencies
[22:35] <Raynes> Songbird is buggy on ubuntu.
[22:35] <woli> billybigrigger: pidgin does not support video yet
[22:35] <KumoGone> Wired is an Atheros something or other
[22:35] <woli> Raynes: yes
[22:35] <KumoGone> Never could find the exact model.
[22:35] <dr_willis> I liked songbird because i was able to get some firefox extensions working in it.. :) but then they stopped working.. :(  i need to research that more..
[22:35] <markbto> billy,  I'm using aMSN,  it has webcam support
[22:36] <pjazzy> KumoGone - try the command ifup ifcfg-eth0 thats worked for me in the past
[22:36] <sparr> Bsims: im trying to update kfind and it is wanting to remove dozens of kde core packages
[22:36] <billybigrigger> markbto, cool ill give it a go
[22:36] <pjazzy> i think thats the command
[22:36] <Bsims> sparr: apt-get install apt-rdepends
[22:36] <Manueltje22> Hmm here is a topic in Dutch: http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/topic/25330
[22:36] <KumoGone> pjazzy: Ignoring unknown interface
[22:37] <Bsims> sparr: apt-cache is your friend
[22:37] <erUSUL> KumoGone: sudo modprobe ipw2200
[22:37] <pjazzy> i'm out of ideas then, that command would manually start the interface if it was not activated at startup
[22:37] <woli> can somebody help me with advanced sound issues?
[22:37] <sparr> Bsims: the tree is too complex to do in my head with apt-cache
[22:37] <KumoGone> erUSUL: no output.
[22:38] <erUSUL> KumoGone: check iwconfig output now
[22:38] <KumoGone> lshw lists network as disabled and unclaimed.
[22:38] <KumoGone> lo no wireless extensions, pan0 no wireless extensions.
[22:38] <uhhhhh> hey, does anyone know where i can find out what wireless card the new hp mini 1000 has? google hasnt found anything
[22:38] <KumoGone> uhhhhhh:  open it up and look
[22:38] <hbomb> hi everyone, last night y title bar on firefox disapeared, i can get it back by using 'metacity --replace' but i really enjoy using compiz, any ideas?
[22:39] <cyclomatic> hi, my shift key is not working, what could be causing this ..
[22:39] <hblount> flannel: to install, do i just click the link or do i have to do some command on console?
[22:39] <uhhhhh> KumoGone: i dont have one, i want to know before i order it
[22:40] <vlacki> hello linux people :)
[22:40] <Crayboff> I checked the forum, but I wan't to make sure, I installed 8.04 via Wubi, can I upgrade it to 8.10 without having to upgrade wubi? has anyone tried this already?
[22:40] <KumoGone> lshw -C network also lists the driver as "bridge"
[22:40] <andresjweb> hey i am running Intrepid in a computer for testing (from the LiveCD) and networking is not working properly. For example, it doesn
[22:41] <Bsims> sparr: thats what apt-rdepends is for but apt-cache lets you search
[22:41] <andresjweb> hey i am running Intrepid in a computer for testing (from the LiveCD) and networking is not working properly. For example, it doesn't connect using DHCP. It sends the query message, but it never acts on it.
[22:41] <Manueltje22> Here it works andresjweb
[22:41] <inktri> yo
[22:41] <inktri> can anyone hear me
[22:41] <sparr> andresjweb: what sort of reply is it getting to the query message?
[22:41] <SkinnYPuPp> Anyone know how to set up evolution to do pop mail to yahoo.com mail account? I've tried these instructons but to no avail, http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/original/mailplus/pop/pop-06.html
[22:41] <bobgill> Friend has ubuntu box and I'm about to install Vista for him (hiss boo yes I know hehe) so he can dual boot.. now he is gonna install Vista to drive B, on one of the partitions.. he has Ubuntu on drive A, so I would just edit the GRUB after to include Vista, and it won't be affected by Vista's install right?
[22:42] <atomic_> In the latest Evolution in 8.10, when I go to the Unread folder and click on something in there to read, when it gets marked as unread (autmatically), it gets removed from the Unread folder and the next unread email is displayed, then that gets marked as unread and removed from that folder and 3rd email is displayed, and so and so forth. I just have to click on 1 email in the unread folder and it'll cycle through the whol
[22:42] <atomic_> e lot 1 by 1 marking them as unread and removing them and moving onto the next, even if I haven't read it
[22:42] <erUSUL> KumoGone: sudo modprobe ipw2100 <<-- i made a typo yours is 2100 not 2200 ..
[22:42] <N1ghshd> kidbuntu: Filled bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/292380
[22:42] <sparr> andresjweb: dhcpack?  dhcpnak?  dhcpoffer?
[22:42] <lubosz> hi
[22:42] <erUSUL> bobgill: no vista install will overwrite grub you will have to reinstall it
[22:42] <erUSUL> !grub | bobgill
[22:42] <lubosz> my vuze wants to update himself to version 4, but after restarting he tells me to restart again. on and on
[22:42] <KumoGone> erUSUL:  still no wireless extensions
[22:43] <atomic_> ...I seem to have wifi issues in 8.10 . All my interfaces and networks are listed twice in nm-applet and I seem to get fairly bad fluctuating lag while i'm sitting here in IRC, sometimes to the point I timeout. This also seems to effect my web browsing too at the exact same time . Don't have these issues in 8.04 . Have an onboard Intel Pro Wifi card
[22:43] <darkness> Hey, I'm using ubuntu 8.10 (upgraded from 8.04 yesterday, which was upgraded from 7.10 which was upgraded from 7.04) and for some reason, whenever I'm doing something that requires OpenGL rendering, the X server seems to crash...
[22:43] <erUSUL> KumoGone: :/
[22:43] <andresjweb> sparr: in the syslog of the dhcp server: DHCPDISCOVER(eth0); DHCPOFFER(eth0) <IP_ADDRESS>; this three times.
[22:43] <KumoGone> Yeah
[22:43] <KumoGone> I know
[22:43] <crtoe> congrats on intepid btw. really liking kde 4.1 :)
[22:43] <andresjweb> sparr: (of curs i took out the cruft before and the MAC address after :)
[22:44] <KumoGone> I suppose I could back up all my data and reformat and start fresh....
[22:44] <inktri> hey guys i accidentally deleted the network monitor indicator on the top left... how do i get it back? i can't find it with the "Add to Panel" menu
[22:44] <Crayboff> I already checked the forum, but I want to know if I have to upgrade Wubi if I want to upgrade ubuntu? i used wubi to install 8.04 now I want to upgrade
[22:44] <erUSUL> inktri: launch nm-applet with  the alt-f2 dialog for example
[22:44] <crtoe> i noticed one persistent problem with firefox and flash that wasn't there ~6 months ago. if i have firefox open for a long time and i'm watching some video (youtube, hulu, etc.) that uses flash, after a while the video plays smoothly but the audio sounds really choppy and repeated (like really bad techno remixes)
[22:45] <andresjweb> inktri, no idea how u did that... try `sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart`
[22:45] <unstable> What is a simple program to just rip a DVD and make an iso file. no encoding/changes/shrinking etc, just rip it and remove the css.
[22:45] <afallenhope> bbl
[22:45] <fungo> is it possible to burn the cd image of ubuntu on dvd and pad the data so the image get burned on the edge of the dvd?
[22:45] <mimor> ok.
[22:45] <bobgill> erUSUL: but Vista will be installed to a different drive
[22:45] <mimor> I used grsync to sync my .evolution folder
[22:45] <fungo> it would read faster that way
[22:45] <bobgill> still woud overwrite grub ?
[22:45] <mimor> but when I open the calendar on my laptop, it crashes...
[22:45] <mimor> someone?
[22:46] <erUSUL> bobgill: with the ubuntu drive disconnected (phisically) during install?
[22:46] <P_Kable> Hello there, I have trouble with my connection... I can't set it static!! I change ipv4 settings but after reboot it goes back to dhcp !!!!
[22:46] <cliechti> fungo: the edvd is anyway faster than a cd.
[22:46] <inktri1> wait what
[22:46] <inktri1> how do i get the monitor to show on the top left again?
[22:46] <erUSUL> bobgill: last i heard windows does not like being installed anywhere but the first partition of the first drive
[22:46] <andresjweb> sporr: also, the dhcp and dns server are not the router. this might be a problem in Intrepid... had no problem w/ it on Hardy. I just tried it bout a week ago.
[22:46] <uhhhhh> anyone know where to find the wireless card in the hp mini 1000?
[22:47] <cliechti> uhhhhh: search for linux support on that box ;-)
[22:47] <MindVirus> Hi, I'd like some help. I tried to run "make" for the biopod driver available at http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/projects/fergar/.
[22:47] <MindVirus> It failed miserably:
[22:47] <bobgill> erUSUL: ok i will d/c the drive first good idea
[22:47] <MindVirus> scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/home/mindvirus/biopod/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.  Stop.
[22:47] <MindVirus> Can someone recommend what to do?
[22:47] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 8.10: Why is it that when the update manager alerts you of updates, 9 times out of 10, you don't get a list of WHAT changed? Why not get the changes list ready before uploading the new package?
[22:47] <schmoop> can someone give me advice on the best way to get dual head displays working with two raedonhd video cards
[22:48] <MindVirus> ..?
[22:48] <SkinnYPuPp> Yahoo mail account on evolution, anyone have this working?
[22:49] <maynards-girl> how do I set my resolution higher than 800x600?
[22:49] <P_Kable> MindVirus=> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gspca/+bug/213762 looks like your problem no ?
[22:49] <hblount> i have synaptic installed but i dont see it anywhere in applications menu. how do i run it?
[22:49] <andycas> is there a way to output a log file live? so that i can monitor access log from terminal
[22:49] <jrib> andycas: tail -f   would be one way
[22:50] <erUSUL> andycas: tailf /path/to/log/file
[22:50] <andresjweb> sparr: u there/
[22:50] <andresjweb> anybody else?
[22:50] <P_Kable> anybody got successful at setting his IP address in static on Itrepid???
[22:50] <andresjweb> :/ :-)
[22:50] <SkinnYPuPp> hblount: System, administration, synaptic is it not in the menu?
[22:50] <andresjweb> P_Kable, i did, it just didnt work either.
[22:50] <MindVirus> P_Kable, sure, but that's for gspca.
[22:50] <HorizonXP> hey, how can i back up a 10.0GB directory of files to several 4.7GB DVDs so that it splits the files across them?
[22:50] <P_Kable> MindVirus=> the issue might be the same
[22:51] <jrib> HorizonXP: make a tarball and then use split?
[22:51] <tensei> Anyone using Screenlets?  I have a quick question
[22:51] <MindVirus> P_Kable, perhaps, but that doesn't fix it.
[22:51] <P_Kable> andresjweb=> how come? it work or not ?
[22:51] <HorizonXP> jrib: needs to be windows readable
[22:51] <hblount> skinnypupp: oops was looking in applications menu. thanks
[22:51] <HorizonXP> jrib: unless, once i split it, i untar each one THEN burn?
[22:51] <HorizonXP> jrib: is that possible?
[22:51] <SkinnYPuPp> hblount:Sure !
[22:51] <max|--> hi
[22:51] <andresjweb> P_Kable, in the Ubuntu LiveCD, without changing anything else. DHCP didnt work, nor did setting the IP and info to static.
[22:51] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! After having used 8.10 for a day or two, I noticed that my usb flash drives are not auto-mounted. Did some googling and it seems that I need to install ivman for that and it is indeed not installed. Is it the standard way to do it or 8.10 has already tools for that which I haven't activated, used, configured? Thanks
[22:52] <max|--> is possible to send a sound on sound card with vlc on shoutcast server pls ?
[22:52] <askand> I found some kind of option in my BIOS that it says improves virtulization in my computer, does that make VirtualBox faster if I turn it on?
[22:52] <sken> can anybody help me with songbird?
[22:52] <JoeBorn> hi all, I'm trying to figure out what the "Configuring hardware" on the installation does
[22:52] <neo644> I tried the Intrepid upgrade but it didnt work. The only thing that changed is the repos. How do i change the repos back to hardy
[22:52] <perlmonkey> greetings
[22:52] <MindVirus> P_Kable, any suggestions?
[22:52] <jrib> HorizonXP: you probably want to use zip or rar then.  I don't know how to create split archives with those tools or if it's even possible on linux.  Check their man pages
[22:53] <crafteh> is there a way to install ubuntu to a partition from within ubuntu?
[22:53] <perlmonkey> I have a dual core system..do I need to install any special version of Ubuntu or set any options, to take advantage of the dual core processor?
[22:53] <JoeBorn> I'm trying to boot off a USB keychain drive and I'm wondering if I can install on one machine to the USB and then move that drive to a different machine
[22:53] <max|--> <??
[22:53] <sken> can anybody help me with songbird?
[22:53] <HorizonXP> jrib: ok cool, thanks
[22:53] <cliechti> crafteh: yes using debootstrap
[22:53] <P_Kable> MindVirus=> no sorry
[22:53] <MindVirus> P_Kable, I see.
[22:53] <JoeBorn> the two machines are similiar, but not exactly the same.
[22:54] <felixyan> hi everyone! pulseaudio works well on 2.6.24-21-rt, but it doesn't work on 2.6.24-21-generic, noticing dmix not found. anyone knows how to deal with this? Thanks.
[22:54] <tensei> Anyone using Screenlets?  I have a quick question.   I'm trying to install google gadgets into screenlets, and i've read several sites that say "just click the install Button" .. when I do it pulls up the file manager... am I not getting something..
[22:54] <K_Dallas> HorizonXP, basically you start with your biggest file first and you go on from there. This way you use the maximum space on your DVDs if you do not want to go through the pain of archiving
[22:54] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 8.10: Why is it that when the update manager alerts you of updates, 9 times out of 10, you don't get a list of WHAT changed? Why not get the changes list ready before uploading the new package?
[22:54] <smelian> hello please how can i use 2 moniter ( pc monitor and Tv )
[22:54] <crafteh> cliechti, what is debootstrap?
[22:54] <max|--> is possible to send a sound on sound card with vlc on shoutcast server pls ?
[22:54] <erUSUL> perlmonkey: no; smp is supported by default
[22:55] <JoeBorn> it's 8.10 I'm trying to install BTW
[22:55] <maynards-girl> how do I set my resolution higher than 800x600 in 8.10?
[22:55] <perlmonkey> erUSUL: cool, thanks
[22:55] <HorizonXP> K_Dallas: That's what I usually do, but i was hoping for a more automated way of doing it. this is my cousin's backed up data, i have no idea what it is, nor should i be looking through her files
[22:55] <perlmonkey> how do I know if I need 32bit or 64bit? I'm not sure what my system is
[22:55] <cliechti> crafteh: a commanf line tool that installs a base system. so you can install a base system to a folder/mounted partition. you will use chroot and some manual work too.
[22:55] <JoeBorn> The two machines have the same video cards (ATI)
[22:56] <JoeBorn> and AMD chipsets, but some of the peripherals may be different
[22:56] <jrib> sken: start by asking a better, more detailed question...
[22:56] <dr_willis> perlmonkey,  stick with 32bit then
[22:56] <perlmonkey> ok
[22:56] <erUSUL> perlmonkey: if you do not know just install 32 bit
[22:56] <JoeBorn> Basically, I'm trying to create an image that I can use to boot multiple machines
[22:56] <felixyan> pls works well on 2.6.24-21-rt, but it doesn't work on 2.6.24-21-generic, noticing dmix not found. anyone knows how to deal with this? Thanks.
[22:56] <perlmonkey> thanks guys
[22:56] <K_Dallas> HorizonXP, I am really no expert in bash scripting but listing with sort option the folders where the files are and then piping it through the isomaker (forget the command name) and then burning the resulted iso on DVDs, one after another, something like that ;)
[22:56] <JoeBorn> and I'm not sure if all the machines will be *exactly* identical
[22:56] <JoeBorn> I'm not sure if my situation makes sense.
[22:57] <smelian> hello please how can i use 2 moniter ( pc monitor and Tv )
[22:57] <Danskmand> Howdy :-) - I managed to compile a fcpci driver for my fritzcard that supports faxing and setup capisuite.....Now I can send faxes....But how do I tell the fritzcard to react on a certain number ? (I cant receive faxes because nothing reacts on the ringing....)
[22:57] <HorizonXP> K_Dallas: yeah, that's what i'd do... but i need to back these up soon, don't ahve time to pile through man pages to figure out how to do that
[22:57] <HorizonXP> i think i googled something
[22:57] <HorizonXP> bak2disc
[22:57] <erUSUL> HorizonXP: use tar and split commands or any other archiver that can make volumes
[22:57] <schmoop> smelian:  you can't .... it is voodooo
[22:57] <adriaan> Hi! I have ubuntu 8.10 and i would like a program called WorkRave to startup with ubuntu
[22:58] <crtoe> i noticed one persistent problem with firefox and flash that wasn't there ~6 months ago. if i have firefox open for a long time and i'm watching some video (youtube, hulu, etc.) that uses flash, after a while the video plays smoothly but the audio sounds really choppy and repeated (like really bad techno remixes)
[22:58] <crtoe> anyone else have this problem?
[22:58] <smelian> schmoop: why i cant :S i did thats in windows Xp and did it 1 time before in linux but i dont know how :P
[22:58] <crtoe> is there a bug associated with it?
[22:58] <sken> can anybody help me with songbird
[22:58] <twoten> how do I disable auto startx in 8.10?
[22:58] <K_Dallas> Q: After having used 8.10 for a day or two, I noticed that my usb flash drives are not auto-mounted. Did some googling and it seems that I need to install ivman for that and it is indeed not installed. Is it the standard way to do it or 8.10 has already tools for that which I haven't activated, used, configured? Thanks
[22:58] <schmoop> smelian:  i have been trying for weeks.... no one can help
[22:58] <adriaan> Hi! I have ubuntu 8.10 and i would like a program called WorkRave to startup with ubuntu. How can i add WorkRave to the default runlevel?
[22:58] <smelian> schmoop: loool
[22:58] <jrib> sken: start by asking a better, more detailed question...
[22:59] <cliechti> smelian: connect the second screen and try the screen resolution setting applet in the settings menu
[22:59] <dr_willis> adriaan,  run it from /etc/rc.local is one way..if its a non-gui app
[22:59] <adriaan> dr_willis: actually the app runs in gnome.. so i guess gnome manages this? or?
[23:00] <sken> songbird doesn't play my audio files
[23:00] <cliechti> smelian: for tv out there are some other tools required sometimes. nvtv for example (depends on your card)
[23:00] <SkinnYPuPp> crtoe: watch your resources from a clean opening of firefox and run a few , firefox doesn't release memory properly. close and reopen firefox and your memory use chart will show
[23:00] <sken> and it also is not displayed in the menu
[23:00] <dr_willis> adriaan,  you got it.. A+
[23:00] <smelian>  i want 2 screen one use it for the net and the other to watch movie
[23:00] <dr_willis> !autostart | adriaan
[23:00] <adriaan> dr_willis: thank you!
[23:00] <twoten> how about turning off auto startx at start up?
[23:01] <twoten> how do I do that?
[23:01] <dr_willis> twoten,  disable the gdm/kdm service and you will boot to the console
[23:01] <atomic_> In the latest Evolution in 8.10, when I go to the Unread folder and click on something in there to read, when it gets marked as unread (autmatically), it gets removed from the Unread folder and the next unread email is displayed, then that gets marked as unread and removed from that folder and 3rd email is displayed, and so and so forth. I just have to click on 1 email in the unread folder and it'll cycle through the whol
[23:01] <atomic_> e lot 1 by 1 marking them as unread and removing them and moving onto the next, even if I haven't read it
[23:01] <twoten> gotcha
[23:02] <coolacid1> hey there... can someone help me please about a sound problem? I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop. This is what lspci says:
[23:02] <coolacid1> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[23:02] <coolacid1> I have no sound, the players only run silently.
[23:02] <coolacid1> ubuntu 8.10
[23:02] <GeorgeAScott> hey, im back with the tethering issue, anybody have success at sharing internet from smartphone with ubuntu 8.04?
[23:02] <atomic_> The Network Manager Applet in 8.10 lists all my interfaces (eth/wifi) and networks twice. Anyone know how to fix this?
[23:02] <crtoe> SkinnYPuPp: so what's the fix? is there one?
[23:02] <favro> !intelhda | coolacid1
[23:02] <b_e_n_z> installed 8.10, but the login process is a lot longer than in 8.04... what's wrong?
[23:03] <HorizonXP> guys, bak2disc is mint, it's exactly what i wanted. seems like it's a bash script too
[23:03] <HorizonXP> thanks
[23:03] <crtoe> SkinnYPuPp: i'm quite aware of firefox's shoddy memory performance, but it seemed to have gotten much better with firefox 3.0.1. regardless, i suspect flash to be at fault because i don't think earlier versions ever did this
[23:03] <SkinnYPuPp> crtoe: not that i know of i just restart Ffox when it happens
[23:03] <coolacid1> thx, i'll try that
[23:03] <kkilps> could someone help with sound in ibex?
[23:04] <bbeecher> hey whats a good book to learn the internals of linux?
[23:04] <bbeecher> I've got unix for the impatient
[23:04] <bbeecher> but alot of stuff in it seems like its pre 1980s
[23:04] <runemaste644> Im not running a package manager but hardy is complaining about the package lock. How do i get rid of the package lock?
[23:04] <K_Dallas> bbeecher, there is a project, linux from scratch. There you might find interesting and uptodate stuff
[23:04] <runemaste644> without rebooting
[23:04] <Lynet> How do I make a synaptics custom filter that lists packages available in a particular ppa?
[23:04] <Fr0zen_> i've just installed 8.10 and I'm in love; however, I have a Dell E1405 with the broadcom "Draft-N" card that dell offered 2 years ago. The card is not detected, is there a driver update or easy way to fix this? I read the forums a bit but everything seems to be for 8.04 and is 2-3 years old.
[23:05] <DracNoc> b_e_n_z: a lot of us on 8.10 have noticed a longer login time. there could be a large number of reasons why this is, but so long as you can login successfully, then it would be prudent to wait to see if updates improve the time. Is the delay for you that bad?
[23:05] <bbeecher> K_Dallas: oooo thats right! I heard about that and never played with it
[23:05] <kkilps> I installed 8.10 but sound doesn't work, May have to go back to xp
[23:05] <bbeecher> K_Dallas: thanks, I'm gonna go mess with that!
[23:05] <alvarezp> What's the Ubuntu package responsible for integrating SSH key and GNOME?
[23:05] <b_e_n_z> DracNoc: so someone else is having the same problem not just me...
[23:05] <Doctor_Nick> Fr0zen_: broadcom cards need restricted drivers in order to run
[23:06] <Doctor_Nick> are you able to get a wired connection on that laptop?
[23:06] <alvarezp> (and to ask for the key password only once in the session)
[23:06] <Fr0zen_> doctor_nick, what does that mean?
[23:06] <Fr0zen_> im not to ubuntu
[23:06] <mranostay> hello
[23:06] <crtoe> SkinnYPuPp: that's what i have been doing. i was hoping for a better fix. oh well. thanks. i guess i just have to wait...
[23:06] <mranostay> anyone have a clue about this?
[23:06] <mranostay> ell@jolie:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/yaird -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-rc2 2.6.28-rc2
[23:06] <mranostay> yaird error: bad device link in /sys/block/sda (fatal)
[23:06] <FloodBot3> mranostay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <K_Dallas> bbeecher, no problem. Good luck!
[23:06] <Doctor_Nick> Fr0zen_: it means you need to get that laptop connected to the internet so it can download the drivers
[23:06] <emorris> regarding the new guest account: how do I use this? I had an account called 'guest' before I upgraded to intrepid, would this conflict with it? How would I resolve this?
[23:06] <DracNoc> b_e_n_z: you're certainly not unique! My time has gone up by about 50%, but it is working well and there are no errors.
[23:06] <favro> !aptfix | runemaste644
[23:07] <mranostay> is yaird broken for ubuntu?
[23:07] <kkilps> can anyone help with via 82xx sound card?
[23:07] <emorris> !ask | kkilps
[23:08] <DracNoc> b_e_n_z: you could try to install bootchart, it would give an indicator as to what is taking so long.
[23:08] <SkinnYPuPp> crtoe: yeah know what ya mean still better than running windows lol
[23:08] <[mathias]> 32bit programs are incompatible with 64bit Ubuntu, right?
[23:08] <Fr0zen_> doctor_nick, is it automatic? I got it connected via ethernet
[23:08] <snowveil> Evening folks
[23:08] <kelli> hi all
[23:08] <Doctor_Nick> Fr0zen_: go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[23:08] <emorris> woops, i meant !anyone
[23:08] <zigovr> hi all, I have two ubuntu distributions installed, so they're going to share the same grub menu , how can I tell one to use a specific partition for the grub stuffs ?
[23:08] <KumoGone> Okay, I'm going to try booting into a livecd to see if it detects my hardware.
[23:09] <Doctor_Nick> anything pop up there?
[23:09] <sken> can anybody help with songbird, it doesn't play my audio files and it's not displayed in the menu
[23:09] <snowveil> I am having issues accessing a Joypad...it does not show up as js0 or js1, but it is under dev/input/by-id/
[23:09] <kelli> what is the best program to learn "programming" for ubuntu?
[23:09] <snowveil> I can calibrate the joypad (though the calibration does not seem to stay) through jscal if I point to that location
[23:09] <Fr0zen_> oh snap thanks
[23:09] <Fr0zen_> B43 software driver
[23:09] <Fr0zen_> downloading now... :)
[23:10] <snowveil> is there a way I can assign it as js1 or js0 (replacing my wireless keyboard, which is currently recognized as js0)
[23:10] <Doctor_Nick> that should do it
[23:10] <emorris> zigovr: they will both want to install their own grub. However, the most recent one you installed will usually put itself in the MBR, then you can chainload to the other one
[23:10] <Doctor_Nick> kelli: do you mean programming in general?
[23:10] <kkilps> !ask | I have a via 82xx sound card and cannot get sound on Ibex. aplay -l says there is no sound card. I was wondering if anyone could help, or point me somewhere to get help. The ubuntuforums are not helping.
[23:10] <zigovr> emorris: they can't share the same menu ?
[23:10] <runemaste644> If i have a broken Intrepid install, should the partial upgrade fix it?
[23:11] <kelli> Doctor_Nick, i wont to make a new desk top
[23:11] <zigovr> emorris: oh I just thought, maybe if I declare /boot in fstab to point at the correct partition it will work ?
[23:11] <emorris> zigovr: i guess you could copy everything from one menu.lst to the other, but I'm pretty sure you would have to do something special so it wouldn't mess up kernel updates
[23:11] <atomic_> The Network Manager Applet in 8.10 lists all my interfaces (eth/wifi) and networks twice. Anyone know how to fix this?
[23:12] <Doctor_Nick> kelli: a new desktop? like a new background? or a new windows manager?
[23:12] <Doctor_Nick> i can assure you the latter is wayyy more difficult
[23:12] <zigovr> emorris: ok, the mbr chaining might be an idea in fact, thanks for this
[23:12] <kelli> Doctor_Nick, i wont make ahouse you go into then go to a file cabin to open office
[23:12] <emorris> atomic_: mine did this, but then it was fixed after a reboot. it happened after I changed modes and back
[23:12] <Doctor_Nick> kelli: i don't understand
[23:12] <atomic_> emorris, what do mean by changed modes?
[23:13] <emorris> zigovr: root (hd?,?)   <enter>   chainloader +1
[23:13] <DracNoc> Anyone have any ideas as to why my multimedia keys don't work despite being configured? They do work whilst Amarok is running, but I cannot launch other apps with the other multimedia keys.
[23:13] <thruxton> hi, im installing 8.10 on my laptop, and all went well but its sitting there now scanning for mirrors for the last 40 mins, how can I skip that step and get it to finish the installation so i can select a mirror that isnt overloaded?
[23:14] <kelli> Doctor_Nick, reather then just have a 1-D desk top I wont a 3-d desk top
[23:14] <emorris> atomic_: for your wireless card, like Managed, Ad-Hoc or Monitor
[23:15] <atomic_> emorris, Mine's just been like this after a clean install without changing modes, but I'll reboot and see. bbs ;)
[23:15] <emorris> kelli: there was something like that for windows wasn't there?
[23:15] <kelli> Doctor_Nick, click on the front door and use a key pad to open it
[23:15] <Scunizi> what
[23:15] <Doctor_Nick> what
[23:15] <Scunizi> What's an easy way to check and see if any of evolution's services are running from the terminal?
[23:15] <kelli> Doctor_Nick,  many years ago
[23:16] <photon> how do I have to change permissions of a script so that they run as root? I tried chown root:root script.sh && chmod +s script.sh, but I still have to type in the admin password
[23:16] <Doctor_Nick> kelli: is english not your native language? do you have another language you're better at?
[23:16] <emorris> Doctor_Nick: i think he's thinking of something in windows where your desktop is a house and you click on rooms and stuff to enter programs
[23:16] <alvarezp> Scunizi: ps fax | grep -i evoluion
[23:16] <Scunizi> thanks alvarezp
[23:16] <kelli> Doctor_Nick, just slow  sorry
[23:16] <Doctor_Nick> oh
[23:16] <emorris> alvarezp: no! pgrep evolution
[23:16] <Fr0zen_> hmm so i downloaded the broadcom driver, dmesg | grep wlan and dmesg | grep wireless show nothign and I can't turn wireless on with fn + f2
[23:16] <Fr0zen_> what now?
[23:16] <Pelo> evening folks
[23:17] <cliechti> how can i map functions to my mouse buttons? i'd like to map the thumb button to middle click
[23:17] <kelli> emorris, thats it
[23:17] <alvarezp> emorris: cool!!
[23:17] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 8.10: Why is it that when the update manager alerts you of updates, 9 times out of 10, you don't get a list of WHAT changed? Why not get the changes list ready before uploading the new package?
[23:17] <emorris> kelli: that was for windows not linux
[23:17] <kelli> emorris,  could i do it here?
[23:18] <emorris> alvarezp: your command is very buggy since it will pick up the grep process, as well as any other processes with evolution in their name, eg. 'gedit ~/Desktop/evolution_is_cool.txt'
[23:19] <ThomasG33K> hey guys! :) I was wondering if I can do a dist-upgrade from hardy to Ibex inside a Wubi install
[23:19] <emorris> kelli: i doubt it
[23:19] <kelli> emorris,  to bad ot was fun to use
[23:19] <kelli> emorris,  it was fun to use
[23:21] <photon> how do I have to change permissions of a script so that they run as root? I tried chown root:root script.sh && chmod +s script.sh, but I still have to type in the admin password
[23:21] <simplexio> hrmm.. what is program for netstat like uprecords is for uptime ?
[23:21] <haydn> How can I halt ./configure on warning messages?
[23:21] <Atomic_UE> emorris, worked, thanks. Was pretty sure I'd rebooted before though
[23:21] <MFen> anyone know why dpkg-query -W -f '${Origin}' is all blank? this is a query showing the Origin of all installed packaged
[23:21] <Miesco> How do I mount /proc/bus/usb?
[23:21] <ThomasG33K> hey guys! :) I was wondering if I can do a dist-upgrade from hardy to Ibex inside a Wubi install?
[23:22] <murathan38> fello freinds
[23:22] <[TiZ]> Hi... Um... Ndiswrapper and 64-bit. Is there any way, any way at all, that I can get Ndiswrapper on 64 bit to work with 32 bit windows drivers? My RTL8187 is counting on some drivers from Windows 98...
[23:22] <MFen> i want to create a listing of my installed packages for system recovery purposes, and i want togroup by Origin (so manually-installed debs can be handled specially), but there's no data there :(
[23:22] <emorris> Atomic_UE: yes, i think it can change when certain changes happen to your network cards
[23:22] <ferfactor> how i can install a gtk theme in ubuntu 8.10???
[23:22] <MFen> it is listed as a recognized field in the man page for dpkg-query, so either something is spelled wrong or there's no Origin data being stored, and I'm not sure which is less likely
[23:23] <Scunizi> how do I get irssi to stop showing join/part messages?
[23:23] <zigovr> is there a way to make network-manager make wifi connection right from the beginning (before the user login) ?
[23:23] <Fr0zen_> anyone have the B43 drivers in 8.10, if so, are they working?
[23:23] <emorris> ferfactor: system>preferences?appearance>'theme' tab>install.
[23:24] <Flannel> Scunizi: /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[23:24] <Scunizi> Flannel: thanks..
[23:24] <ferfactor> emorris, thanks dude
[23:24] <tauchris> Fr0zen_: I have the B43 drivers, and they are not working for me.  Could you ack me-- just so I know my messages are getting out?
[23:24] <Fr0zen_> same they're not working for me either tauchris
[23:24] <Fr0zen_> :(
[23:25] <Fr0zen_> i can see you messages fine
[23:25] <[TiZ]> I need the Windows 98 drivers for RTL8187. But I want to run 64-bit ubuntu. Is there any way at all to make this work?
[23:25] <Flannel> tauchris: Nope, we can't hear you.  Drivers must be broken.
[23:25] <tauchris> Thanks.
[23:25] <Fr0zen_> tauchris
[23:25] <tauchris> Fr0zen_: are you 64-bit?
[23:25] <photon> how do I have to change permissions of a script so that they run as root? I tried chown root:root script.sh && chmod +s script.sh, but I still have to type in the admin password
[23:25] <Fr0zen_> are you conected via the drivers right now?
[23:25] <Scunizi> Flannel: not working..
[23:25] <Fr0zen_> nope, 32
[23:25] <CTho> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/262071 does restarting the apport daemon work, or do you really need to reboot?
[23:25] <tauchris> No, I'm on wired net.
[23:25] <Fr0zen_> ya
[23:25] <blue_mushroom> How do I see what version of ubuntu I'm using? 32-bit / 64-bit ?
[23:25] <Fr0zen_> :(
[23:25] <Fr0zen_> why the hell do they not work
[23:25] <jrib> photon: you can't setuid scripts for security reasons.  Why would you want to do that?
[23:25] <erUSUL> blue_mushroom: uname -r
[23:26] <blue_mushroom> Thanks erUSUL ! :)
[23:26] <jrib> blue_mushroom: uname -m
[23:26] <tauchris> I'm stumped.  They worked for me on 32-bit on 8.04....
[23:26] <ldiamond2> When Ubuntu boots, it spends about 5mins at "* Configuring network interfaces... " Why is that?
[23:26] <blue_mushroom> Thanks jrib  :)
[23:26] <erUSUL> blue_mushroom: jrib  is right
[23:26] <photon> jrib: because otherwise I have to type in the admin password *all the time*, which is kind of tedious. I'm using this script 20 times a day. is there no workaround?
[23:26] <Fr0zen_> ah, i just downloaded them from the hardware drivers menu
[23:26] <yoyoned> ldiamond2: its trying to get an address using dhcp
[23:27] <tacone> I lost my raid metadata. Anyone knows a good disaster recovery tool ?
[23:27] <Fr0zen_> this is my first ever instal of ubuntu
[23:27] <ldiamond2> yoyoned: But why is it taking so long?
[23:27] <jrib> photon: set up sudoers so that you can use that command without sudo prompting you for a password
[23:27] <yoyoned> ldiamond2: do you have a dhcp server
[23:27] <runemaste644> Why is ubuntu so intent o deleting my kernel?
[23:27] <cliechti> photon: you can configure sudo so tahtit doesnt ask for a password at all or just not for one command
[23:27] <zigovr> emorris: bizarrely , the chainloading trick didn't work, it complains that the file format is unsupported when trying to chain to the other MBR
[23:27] <tauchris> Fr0zen_: I think that's the only way you can install them. :)
[23:27] <ldiamond2> yoyoned: yes, on my router
[23:27] <photon> jrib, cliechti: thanks
[23:27] <tauchris> Something else must be set wrong, or broken.
[23:27] <zigovr> emorris: it's strange because I managed to do it work to boot windoz
[23:27] <Fr0zen_> i saw the guides for 8.04
[23:27] <emorris> zigovr: don't chain to an mbr, chain to a partition
[23:27] <Fr0zen_> various steps
[23:27] <Fr0zen_> and hacks
[23:28] <Fr0zen_> you on a dell by any chance?
[23:28] <yoyoned> ldiamond2: type sudo dhclient and see how log it takes
[23:28] <tauchris> Yep.  Latitude D630 laptop.
[23:28] <tauchris> You?
[23:28] <Fr0zen_> ah, im on a Dell E1405
[23:28] <kakoonia> hey.. im having some trouble with nvidia-settings.. it always exits with "segmentation fault" when i try to save to xonf file.. any idea? (i was running it as root)
[23:28] <Fr0zen_> have the dell "draft-n" card
[23:28] <zigovr> emorris: yes I chained to the partition o
[23:28] <tauchris> My card is b/g.  No n.
[23:28] <Fr0zen_> ah
[23:28] <Lynet> How do I make a synaptics custom filter that lists packages available in a particular ppa?
[23:28] <Drizzel> I have hardy heron LTS, If I upgrade to Ibex will I lose all my files on my hdd?
[23:28] <ldiamond2> yoyoned: about 2-3 seconds
[23:28] <Fr0zen_> i really wish this would work
[23:29] <Awsoonn> is there any differance in what gets installed by default when using the DVD vs. the CD image?
[23:29] <roy_hobbs> Hey guys.  I haven't been able to print to a Windows shared printer since going to 8.10.  The error message is: "Error Printing / Too many failed attempts."  Has anyone experienced anything similar?
[23:29] <R_YoYo_R> Drizzel, no. not if you upgrade
[23:29] <emorris> zigovr: u sure that grub/etc is set up properly in that partition?
[23:29] <yoyoned> ldiamond2: do you have more than one network interface?
[23:29] <Drizzel> k thx so much
[23:29] <tauchris> Oh well.  Time to plod on to the next problem, and return to this later.  Gotta exit now.
[23:29] <R_YoYo_R> Drizzel, although i would backup just in case
[23:29] <Drizzel> ok good idea
[23:29] <tauchris> Sorry we couldn't get this working!
[23:29] <ldiamond2> yoyoned: yes, a wlan0 and eth0
[23:29] <zigovr> emorris: it used to be at least
[23:30] <ldiamond2> yoyoned: I installed wcid to manage my network
[23:30] <[TiZ]> I really need to use this 32-bit Windows 98 wireless driver with NDISWrapper for the Realtek RTL8187. But the problem is, I installed 64-bit ubuntu when I clean-install upgraded to Intrepid. Is there any way, any way at all, to make this work?
[23:31] <blue_mushroom> wth? does anyone have problems with flash not playing sound ?
[23:31] <snowveil> why do you need a windows driver for a linux install?
[23:31] <blue_mushroom> Shockwave Flash.
[23:31] <snowveil> blue_mushroom, you upgraded to the newest flash?
[23:32] <[TiZ]> snowveil: Because the RTL8187 drivers included, are, quite honestly, utter rubbish. I use NDISwrapper and the windows drivers to get connectivity.
[23:32] <askand>  I found some kind of option in my BIOS that it says improves virtulization in my computer, does that make VirtualBox faster if I turn it on?
[23:32] <blue_mushroom> snowveil: yeah, through firefox's flash plugin installer
[23:32] <emorris> zigovr: you could try  root (hd?,?)    <enter>    configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:32] <snowveil> I haven't had any issues with Opera and flash 10
[23:32] <snowveil> freeze occasionally, but no sound issues
[23:32] <philbert[ger]> skype crashes on my laptop when i start the video test (webcam from logitech) .. do anybody have the same prob .. and perhaps a solution ?!?!
[23:32] <shadowhywind> anyone around to help me with trying to get a gamepad/joystick to work. When i plug it in, one joystick controls the mouse, but none of the buttons are seen in xev
[23:33] <Logikos> hi, i recently switched from windows to ubuntu and i must say that i love it, it was a much easier switch then i had originaly figured it would be ... but i just tryed to instal java, first by downloading an rpm, instaling rpm, then trying to rpm the rpm and it said i had tones of  dependancies, so i used the gui, add/remove .. it had an error after i agreed, but it installed anyways
[23:33] <erUSUL> !java | Logikos
[23:33] <Logikos> then in the upper right a red circle with a white dash in it said that there was an error usualy because of dependancies, it had an update in it so i updated but it said i had broken dependncies, i did apt-get check ... and it did something but nothing noticable .... what do i do?
[23:33] <erUSUL> !software > Logikos
[23:33] <erUSUL> !rpm > Logikos
[23:34] <Logikos> k, ty
[23:34] <jrib> Logikos: you don't download stuff manually to install things in general.  You should use a package manager like Synaptic or Add/Remove.  Especially since ubuntu uses .debs and not .rpms
[23:34] <zchef2k_> hey guys, can someone give me some good repositories for Ibex?
[23:34] <[TiZ]> I really need to use this 32-bit Windows 98 wireless driver with NDISWrapper for the Realtek RTL8187. But the problem is, I installed 64-bit ubuntu when I clean-install upgraded to Intrepid. Is there any way, any way at all, to make this work?
[23:34] <blue_mushroom> snowveil: but apt-get installs version 9
[23:34] <Awsoonn> zchef2k_: what are you looking for?
[23:34] <snowveil> apt-get has an old version
[23:34] <blue_mushroom> of flash-non-free
[23:34] <jrib> zchef2k_: the default ones are the good ones.  Maybe medibuntu if you need it
[23:34] <jrib> !medibuntu > zchef2k_
[23:34] <snowveil> blue_mushroom get the debian package from adobe's website
[23:35] <blue_mushroom> Hmm
[23:35] <blue_mushroom> Trying now.
[23:35] <julian> how can i get my ubuntu version
[23:35] <jrib> !version | julian
[23:35] <snowveil> blue_mushroom http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[23:35] <R_YoYo_R> julian system > about ubuntu
[23:35] <julian> thanks
[23:35] <emorris> !repositories | zchef2k_
[23:35] <snowveil> it should recognize that you're running ubuntu and give you the direct link to the file
[23:36] <julian> about ubuntu is no coming up thats my problem :)
[23:36] <Jammet> Hello there.
[23:36] <snowveil> blue_mushroom, the .deb version will be the easiest to install
[23:36] <ricosecada> I know that the Ubuntu desktop edition is based upon the Debian unstable branch, but what branch of Debian is the Ubuntu server edition based upon?
[23:36] <KumoGone> is recompiling the kernel likely to help me fix any networking problems?
[23:37] <Awsoonn> KumoGone: probaly not, unleess you are applyign som new code that is not already in teh stock kernel.
[23:37] <Jammet> I'm trying to install the latest Opera, but since the upgrade to Inteprid, the Update manager doesn't seem process the Opera repo any longer. It was unmarked, but I re-enabled it after upgrading.
[23:37] <Jammet> Can somebody help me there?
[23:37] <Fr0zen_> i can see the broadcom when i type lshw -C network, what is kinda wierd is the "width" says 64 bits is that normal?
[23:37] <KumoGone> I'm really trying to fix this without having to wipe and reinstall....
[23:37] <andycas> is there a way to make dist-upgrade silent? so it doesnt prompt for anything and when its done it shuts down?
[23:37] <Logikos> ok, i read that, i did use the add/remove and tryed installing sun-java6-bin like that website said but it had dependancies ... what do i do about that?
[23:38] <alvarezp> emorris, yes, but yours will not show executable paths or status. ;-) I mean, it all depends on what do you need.
[23:38] <emorris> Jammet: did you try a sudo apt-get update        first?
[23:38] <lucastawan> eae
[23:38] <emorris> alvarezp: try
[23:38] <CTho> why does  "/etc/init.d/apport restart" not do the same thing as "/etc/init.d/apport stop; /etc/init.d/apport start"?
[23:38] <erUSUL> Logikos: dependencies are automatically installed by synaptic/apt
[23:38] <legend2440> blue_mushroom: really no need to download Flash 10. its in Synaptic. its called   adobe-flashplugin
[23:38] <KumoGone> Is there any way to roll back to 8.04 from 8.10?
[23:38] <lucastawan> WWW.HACKERINOCENTE.COM
[23:38] <emorris> alvarezp: true**
[23:38] <lucastawan> WWW.HACKERINOCENTE.COM
[23:38] <lucastawan> WWW.HACKERINOCENTE.COM
[23:38] <FloodBot3> lucastawan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <Jammet> emorris: No, if that is not done automatically, no. I simply launched the Synaptic Package manager and the normal Ubuntu Add/Remove application and pressed the 'reload' button after re-enabling the Opera repo.
[23:39] <erUSUL> Logikos: maybe you need to add multiverse? go to System>Admin>Software Sources and check multiverse and universe in the first tab
[23:39] <thiebaude> KumoGone:you'll prob have to re-install 8.04
[23:39] <ldiamond> Can anyone help me? When I boot ubuntu, it gets stuck at Configuring network interfaces during like 5 mins. Its very annoying.
[23:39] <KumoGone> ...
[23:39] <ldiamond> I also installed wcid to manage my network connections
[23:39] <KumoGone> I was afraid of that.
[23:39] <KumoGone> I'll see if I can't find my Heron disc....
[23:39] <emorris> Jammet: that should have done it. are you sure you changed 'hardy' to 'intrepid' on the apt line if applicable?
[23:40] <Logikos> erUSUL: all of the checkboxes in system>admin>software sources first tab are checked
[23:40] <Logikos> other ideas?
[23:40] <Logikos> i dont even know where to go to see what dependancies i need?
[23:40] <Formode> Anyone here have any talent with Wine? I'd like to get networking happening on Homeworld2
[23:40] <youssrr> hello all. does anyone know if there is a server manual for 8.10 yet? help.ubuntu.com goes to 8.04 still.
[23:40] <Jammet> emorris: The Opera repo has no descriptor for that, it just says "stable" on it. On the Opera website when I try to manually download the binary for Inteprid, it says that the respective download is compatible to both Hardy and Inteprid, so maybe they left it at that.
[23:40] <erUSUL> Logikos: please paste the exact error you get when you try to install sun-java6-bin
[23:40] <bimberi> ldiamond: not a fix sorry, but you can usually ctrl-c on that to cancel and continue the boot - and then set up networking manually
[23:41] <erUSUL> !pastebin | Logikos
[23:41] <ldiamond> bimberi, it didnt do that before I setup my wireless with wcid.
[23:41] <emorris> Jammet: ok, so what actually happens when you try and install opera?
[23:41] <hblount> anyone here use hotway with evolution to get hotmail emails?
[23:41] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:41] <hblount> i'm having trouble setting it up
[23:41] <tab1293> hey, i just installed wine, but when i click on browse C: drive nothing happens
[23:41] <Jammet> emorris: "http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" is in the Third party software sources list here.
[23:42] <threeseas> how do I kill firefox when I can't see it?
[23:42] <Logikos> erUSUL: the error came, and is now gone ... i dont know how to recall it ... it did at the end say that it was installed sucessfuly ... but the update thing said there was dependancies, i updated and then that thing said that it was 'broken' dependancies ... i did apt-get check but it only gave me 3 lines ... it checked, built a list, then did something else ... then left me with a prompt, gave me no info really
[23:42] <equuelus> how do you list all users account in my machine?
[23:42] <blue_mushroom> legend2440: lol, thanks... already installed it just now :D
[23:42] <tab1293> threeseas: terminal > ps -e to list the processes
[23:42] <fishtales> Hello everyone. Does someone have a few minutes to spare to help a newly Ubuntu praised user? I have recently updated to Intrepid from Hardy Heron and seem to be experiencing troubles with the new nVidia drivers (which I realize I am not the only one having problems with).
[23:42] <ldiamond> bimberi, isnt there a way to change the timeout to something shorter?
[23:42] <Formode> tab1293, Try opening your home folder, press Cntrl + H, and open the .wine folder. :)
[23:42] <gandalfcome> both desktops that i have dont show that there's a dist-upgrade available?
[23:42] <thiebaude> threeseas:system monitor
[23:42] <Logikos> erUSUL: so i dont have the ability to copy the error anymore, should i remove it and try again?
[23:42] <Jammet> emorris: It will get installed, but it's not really the latest version. It's 9.61 instead of 9.62.
[23:42] <erUSUL> Logikos: then java is installed
[23:42] <emorris> threeseas: system>administration>system monitor, choose firefox, end process
[23:42] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[23:43] <erUSUL> Logikos: what makes you think it is not?
[23:43] <Jammet> emorris: Meaning, it's not really looking for/or finding the latest version in that repo.
[23:43] <Logikos> erUSUL: it had said there are dependancies and i needed to do something to resolve them ....
[23:43] <tab1293> threeseas: and than once you found firefox type kill + the pid of firefox
[23:43] <emorris> Jammet: oh, i see, give me a sec, i'll try it
[23:43] <Jammet> emorris: And there is another thing I was wondering about. Why can I only find Opera in the Synaptic Package Manager and not in the App/Remove app under "Third party" or Canon?
[23:43] <Logikos> erUSUL: it is installed but it said there are dependancies .... how do i fix that ...
[23:43] <Jammet> emorris: Ok.
[23:44] <bimberi> ldiamond: idk sorry
[23:44] <tab1293> Formode lol ok. But i heard you can configure wine to use you native ntfs partition. how do you do this?
[23:44] <ldiamond> Can anyone help me? When I boot ubuntu, it gets stuck at Configuring network interfaces during like 5 mins. Its very annoying.
[23:44] <erUSUL> Logikos: if i don't know what's broken i can not fix it
[23:44] <threeseas> thanks guys, system monitor did it
[23:45] <erUSUL> Logikos: do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and paste any error you get
[23:45] <thiebaude> !htop
[23:45] <erUSUL> Logikos: in pasteibin
[23:45] <dr_willis> tab1293,  you should be able to run windows apps with wine /path/to/whatever/foo.exe  - but i find its best to 'reinstall' apps in wine.. and not rry to run apps from your windows install.
[23:45] <Logikos> erUSUL: ... k, ty, sec
[23:45] <tab1293> dr_willis: ok
[23:45] <equuelus> does anybody know how can i list all the users on my machine via command line?
[23:45] <emorris> Jammet: because stuff has to manually be put in add/remove programs IIRC
[23:45] <cliechti> equuelus: "w"
[23:46] <dr_willis> equuelus,  look in /home/  and see who all has directories there..is one way.. or ya mean users currently logged in?
[23:46] <Kemayo> Could someone perhaps point me towards how to rebind mouse buttons?  (Upgrading to 8.10 made the "back" button on the side of my mouse actually work as a back button, and I much prefer the old behavior of it being a middle-click.)
[23:46] <Vipsta> Hello, is there a way to just change ONE background in ubuntu, instead of all of them??
[23:46] <equuelus> dr_willis, i mean the users listed in /etc/passwd
[23:46] <jNoxx> hi 2 all
[23:46] <Jammet> emorris: Alright. Are you able to install 9.62 through the Opera repo? If you are, something's wrong with what I did.
[23:46] <equuelus> dr_willis, but I want real users
[23:46] <jNoxx> who have compiz bugs in 8.10?
[23:46] <thiebaude> Vipsta:desktop wallpaper?
[23:46] <thiebaude> ddesk
[23:46] <dr_willis> equuelus,  any user with a uid over 1000+ i think is a real user...  i could be wrong..
[23:47] <Vipsta> thiebaude: yes
[23:47] <equuelus> cliechti, 'w' lists users who are logged in but not user accounts
[23:47] <legend2440> ldiamond   http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/31/configuring-network-interfaces/
[23:47] <thiebaude> vipsta:right click on desktop
[23:47] <threeseas> I really shouldn't be runjing at 100% cpu usage
[23:47] <thiebaude> change background
[23:47] <cliechti> equuelus: then look at /etc/passwd
[23:47] <Fr0zen_> damnit doesnt look like the broadcom wireless will work with 8.10 :(
[23:47] <emorris> Jammet: 9.61 is the latest version on that repo
[23:47] <jNoxx> So, it is trouble with compiz
[23:48] <thiebaude> threeseas:what's making it use 100%?
[23:48] <jNoxx> Who have compiz bugs?
[23:48] <zzaza> hi all
[23:48] <Jammet> emorris: So someone at Opera is just being slow? That's a relief.
[23:48] <Vipsta> thiebaude: my question was, if I could just change a background on ONE of the multiple screens, instead of all of them.
[23:48] <Logikos> erUSUL: went though, back to prompt, no errors that i noticed, says system restart required to complete it, so i'll brb
[23:48] <Jammet> emorris: Thank you =)
[23:48] <emorris> Jammet: you can get this information (your version and the latest version) from apt-cache policy opera
[23:48] <dr_willis> Vipsta,  not under gnome at this time.
[23:48] <thiebaude> oh,ok vipsta
[23:48] <zigovr> what is the name of gnome's network manager tray icon process ?
[23:48] <Miesco> Hey where did slapd.conf go??
[23:48] <zigovr> I want to kill it now that's under kde
[23:48] <emorris> zigovr: nm-applet
[23:49] <zigovr> ah thanks
[23:49] <Jammet> emorris: I see. Well, maybe I'll nudge them a little, then. :)
[23:49] <emorris> Jammet: hehe
[23:49] <threeseas> thiebaude: I don't know, system monitor only shows two things using it and thats well under 100% - system monitor and xchat
[23:50] <thiebaude> threeseas:check this out if you want it:sudo apt-get install htop
[23:50] <thiebaude> htop is better
, check for LP
[23:50] <SynAck> Any one know where to find the PulseAudio Library
[23:50] <Scunizi> Flannel, If I have my old desktop drive that was dedicated /home can I mount it as home on my laptop via a usb drive enclosure?  and will it mess with the permissions of the files?
[23:50] <snowveil> I am currently running my LCD monitor in Portrait mode (left 90* rotation) but when trying to rotate it back to standard landscape (or access xrandr at ALL) I get this message: Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[23:50] <nightdragon__> question: if i removed the "Shut off" button on the top taskbar, how can i add it back
[23:50] <ldiamond> legend2440, Thank you, it seems like its the solution. However, I am connected to a network.
[23:50] <jNoxx> If not configured, lp process can use 100% of cpu
[23:50] <Flannel> Scunizi: It shouldn't.
[23:51] <nightdragon__> it will let me add it back, but not to the top right
[23:51] <nightdragon__> how can i do that?
[23:51] <sunrise987> How do I find out what user groups do I have on my Machine?
[23:51] <snowveil> Does anyone know how to fix this?  I just upgraded to 8.10 and am having this issue
[23:51] <Scunizi> Flannel, even though the user id on the desktop was 1000 and the lappy is 1001?
[23:51] <john47> just installed intrepid on my eeepc, and everytime I launch an internet app (email, firefox) the gnome keyring pops up asking for a password...how can i get it to stop doing this?
[23:51] <ldiamond> legend2440, shouldnt it find my network faster? Or is it because I have 2 network interfaces?
[23:51] <dr_willis> nightdragon__,  right click on thepanel  add applets, and add the one you need.. try some of the others. :) theres some neat ones in there.
[23:51] <nightdragon__> i've donethat
, pm me
[23:51] <Ddorda> need help using avidemux :(
[23:51] <nightdragon__> but it wont let me add it all the way to the right, dr_willis
[23:51] <emorris> threeseas: you can change that in system monitor. view>all processes or my processes
[23:51] <jNoxx> I have 8.10 from today
[23:51] <Ddorda> it's ruining the voice
[23:51] <Neskaya> .gt 70
[23:52] <Neskaya> BAH
[23:52] <dr_willis> nightdragon__,  'unlock' the other applets, and move them around
[23:52] <dr_willis> nightdragon__,  then get them into position and lock them back if you want. I just unlock them all
[23:52] <thiebaude> thanks emorris
[23:53] <blue_mushroom> What's better vmware or VirtualBox ?
[23:53] <john47>  just installed intrepid on my eeepc, and everytime I launch an internet app (email, firefox) the gnome keyring pops up asking for a password...how can i get it to stop doing this?
[23:53] <Ddorda> I prefer VirtualBox
[23:53] <john47> blue_mushroom: I use VirtualBox and love it.
[23:53] <blue_mushroom> Ddorda: it has seamless mode, right?
[23:53] <blue_mushroom> john47:
[23:53] <ferronica> my keyboard volume keys not working on ubuntu 8.10
[23:54] <Ddorda> What do you mean?
[23:54] <dxdemetriou> I can't load plugins from effects category on compiz on intrepid. anybody knows what could be the problem? I have the same problem on 2 computers
[23:54] <youssrr> virtualbox
[23:54] <blue_mushroom> The mode where the taskbar and desktop are integrated perfectly with the host system
[23:54] <youssrr> is better
[23:54] <equuelus> what's a good alternative to skype on linux?
[23:54] <john47> I just installed intrepid on my eeepc, and everytime I launch an internet app (email, firefox) the gnome keyring pops up asking for a password...how can I get it to stop doing this?
[23:54] <youssrr> if you want to use a skype alternative you need an alternative service, like SIP
[23:54] <legend2440> ldiamond not sure why but you could try to uncomment the #timeout 60 line and when it finally boots you will see if it has a connection or not. if it doesn't then just comment the line again. 5 minutes seems like an awfully long time for itto find a connection
[23:54] <MaT-dg> while installing intrepid I set my second partition's mount point to be '/home', how can I change that now?
[23:54] <youssrr> there are a thousands SIP clients
[23:54] <blue_mushroom> youssrr: I have heard that vmware had some thing where the video acceleration is almost realistic
[23:54] <Scunizi> Flannel, does the uuid of an external usb drive change with each reboot?
[23:55] <Scunizi> Flannel, or port affiliation?
[23:55] <sunrise987> How to list all user groups on My Machine?
[23:55] <blue_mushroom> Does VirtualBox have the same?
[23:55] <dr_willis> Scunizi,  a UUID of a drive/filkesystem shouldent change.
[23:55] <equuelus> youssrr, which SIP client do you suggest?
[23:55] <ldiamond> legend2440, alright, thanks
[23:55] <dr_willis> Scunizi,  ive heard that resizeing a filesystem might change its uuid.. thats the only case ive seen where it may change.
[23:55] <Scunizi> dr_willis, even with a usb port change?
[23:55] <Scunizi> dr_willis, thanks.
[23:55] <Genius314> The ATI All-in-Wonder video card comes with a purple box for receiving video/audio input. Is there a way to see the input from this in real-time (like if I hook up a game, I want to see it in a window) with a program in Ubuntu?
[23:55] <dr_willis> Scunizi,  the whole point OF uuid - is it dosent matter what port. :)
[23:55] <youssrr> blue_mushroom, not sure about that BUT virtualbox is totally open source (GNU GPL) and is based on the same tech as Xen. Not sure about acceleration
[23:55] <blue_mushroom> Does VirtualBox or VMWare have the Video Acceleration capacity ?
[23:56] <tarelerulz> I want to hook my laptop to my tv so I can watch movies on my tv.   Can you do that ? if so what might I do
[23:56] <threeseas> network manager is using a lot of cpu
[23:56] <Scunizi> dr_willis, nice to know..
[23:56] <dr_willis> Scunizi,  you could even mount based on disk label, or other things if you wanted
[23:56] <youssrr> equelus, I use Twinkle because it provides encrypted IP calls
[23:56] <youssrr> and since i'm the in USA-big brother society, it's nice
[23:56] <john47> looks like too many people here.  Thanks anyway - I will look elsewhere for an answer to my Intrepid keyring question....
[23:57] <a2828> hey guys i have question i got ubuntu 8.04 on amd64 machine for some reason when i try to use adobe flash plugin for chat i cant connect to there server anyone knows how to fix this?
[23:57] <dr_willis> john47,  you could just enter a password and use the keyring like its intended.
[23:57] <psiforce> hi all, I'm trying to get colbertnation.com's videos to play under intrepid 64.... anyone else been sucessful?
[23:57] <john47> dr_willis: Yes, I try to enter a password but then it doesn't accept it and I get the same screen again.
[23:57] <Flannel> Scunizi: the UUID shouldn't.  I suppose the device location could (sdb vs sdc, etc)
[23:57] <dr_willis> dosent accept? so thats the ACTUAL problem then?
[23:57] <youssrr> psiforce, does that site use flash?
[23:58] <legend2440> tarelerulz: what video card you have?
[23:58] <dime> is anyone here familiar with ext2online?
[23:58] <dime> does the ubuntu kernel support it?
 adobe has not flash players for x64
[23:58] <dr_willis> john47,  i cheat and just enter my users login password.. :)
[23:58] <john47> I can get online by just clicking "deny", but I have to go through the same process whenever I try to get access to online stuff.
[23:58] <jNoxx> you must use x32
[23:58] <Scunizi> Flannel, ok.. I've changed my fstab reference for /home.. now to make the switch do I restart or is there another method?
[23:58] <john47> dr_willis: I tried that as well....back to the same screen.  I didn't have this problem on hardy, it's weird.
[23:59] <a2828> anyone can help me
[23:59] <dime> specifically CONFIG_EXT2_RESIZE?
[23:59] <karsten> Is there a hardy => intrepid upgrade FAQ?
[23:59]  * karsten finds http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[23:59] <jrib> jNoxx, a2828: flash player works fine on 64bit.  Nothing special has to be done by the user
[23:59] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[23:59] <jNoxx> But it is not adobe)
[23:59] <dr_willis> has some info/faqs
[23:59] <karsten> dr_willis: Thanks
[23:59] <a2828> jrib ok why i cant use web chat when i go there
[23:59] <youssrr> does anyone know if there is an 8.10 server manual?
[23:59] <Flannel> Scunizi: do you currently have another /home? (what home are you currently using?


[00:40] <cj> any of you feel like joining the WSG? :)
[00:41] <cj> http://washingtonguard.org/wsg/
[00:41] <cj> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_Guard
[05:20] <valorie> interesting, cj
[05:20] <valorie> I've not heard of that before


[05:47] <scientes> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/grind-crank.html
[05:47] <darthrobot> Title: [grind crank]
[05:47] <scientes> OMG i must build one!
[05:49] <pleia2> hehe
[05:50] <MarkDude> Awesome.
[05:50] <scientes> much better than [c][enter][enter]etc.. in gdb
[05:50] <scientes> **s
[05:50] <scientes> or [n]
[16:05] <kdub> philballew: how's the north california treating you?
[16:30] <philballew> kdub, Cant complain. The 100 degree temps can get a little annoying though.
[16:33] <kdub> its a cool 75 down here :)
[16:36] <philballew> haha kdub Yeah, Hows the job?
[16:40] <kdub> oh pluggin along, nice knowing i'm not contributing to the proprietary blob problem anymore :)
[16:43] <philballew> that does sound like a good feeling.
[16:48] <philballew> MarkDude, so those books?
[17:11] <raevol> kdub: where you workin
[17:52]  * MarkDude can do that now philballew
[18:09] <philballew> MarkDude, alright. Do I have to pick them up from you or do they mail them to me?
[18:09]  * bkerensa shakes fist at znc module developers


 @AdamOutler will be proud of me - http://build.kmyers.me:8080/
 Tried logging in with hacker:hacker and it didn't work.
 That would be a good thing
 Jenkins is a must-have.
 I use it like a build system+Cron+ifttt button
 And logging is awesome for scripts.
 You guys kill me, I read the wiki page on Jenkins and still only have a vague idea of what it does. I was struggling this morning just getting decent logging from a simple bash script. Ha
 Try Jenkins.adamoutler.com
 I may need to pick your brain on something when I finish setting things up on this server
 I have Jenkins down to a tee. Let me know anything you need and I will get you an answer.
 A word of advice, any time there's multiple steps, use a pipeline job.  If you can reuse a script or only want to do part of the script sometimes, or part can stand alone, make that a job.  Then pipeline the jobs together.
 @KMyers I had to
 This has more fun than it has any business being
 https://www.contextis.com/en/blog/dont-feed-them-after-midnight-reverse-engineering-the-furby-connect
 https://github.com/ctxis/Furby
 @RazPi you're scaring me
 Like really scaring me
 @Ivoriesablaze Why
 Reasons
 Because you are up at a normal time
 hahaha
 I've been up since 2am
 Or maybe 3
 Whoever designed the furby did a darn good job, I wish I could find the hardware design team or the original designers and give them a thumbs up. It follows a lot of my own thoughts on how you should design a digital character
 As simple as it is, I feel like it's way more interactive than the cozmo toy
 https://www.cnet.com/news/hp-recalls-more-laptops-for-fire-and-burn-hazards/
 @KMyers Welp, that crosses the hp off my list
 huawei matebook is looking awful nice lately
 XPS13 converted me
 It's $$$ tho
 I'm rocking my personal Galago Pro.
 System 76?? How is that??
 I really like it but I may be super BIAS
 Why?
 I work for them.
 O!!
 No e
 Nice
 Yep! Though right now theres a blizzard in Denver though lol.
 I did look at the xps, it's a sexy machine but I had to continue looking
 I think without the HP it's down to the matebook and the Asus zenbook
 .. or the pixel
 Who told me they work for Trac phone the other day?
 That would be Adam
 @AdamOutler my GF just got called for an interview at Trac phone, you have any pull in the IT area?
 I am not sure if he would. The custodial team does not normally work with IT, at least not at th companies I have worked for
 @EZRA1964, What job?
 Linux sysadmin snd security
 Oh, I was just talking to those guys about 2 minutes ago
 She was a sysadmin for TransUnion in Mexico for 10 years
 Awesome
 I just left
 She's the smarter one of the two of us
 So, in I I like need some information
 Luke's girlfriend won't really have any pool
 Lol
 Yolanda Prieto
 Someone called her today about it
 You got to give me more than that to put a good word in for someone I don't know
 Ok, what would you like sir
 Well, what does she do, what she specialize in?
 Search school
 Certifications
 Basically, I'm going to go talk to Valens tomorrow and I need stuff to talk about
 I'm going to talk to him for other reasons, but your girlfriend could come up
 ok
 Linux sysadmin, she has a masters in computer architecture and design from a very prestigious school in Havana. spent 10 years as a Linux sysadmin for Trans Union in Mexico as well as Supervisor at the same time. Dont think she has any certs. Currently working at (insert big company name here, i'll think of it in a minute) doing unix user management for central and south america.
 some place in coral springs
 they process credit card trasnactions
 I am honestly going to have to update her resume tonight and put that position on it
 First Data
 !
 @ahoneybun how's the storm? I'm in Argentina till Sunday
 I think there is about 3-6 in of snow right now and really strong winds.
 You got out at the right time lol.
 It's the end of summer here. So hot and plenty of humidity.
 @govatent - make sure your flight has not been delayed as they are grounding several of the new Boeing planes
 I was trying to find out.
 I know my flight is a 767
 But not sure the model and what the deal is with the Boeing situation
 boeing 737 max 8 and 9
 Thanks
 Tmobile roaming is fairly slow so researching takes a bit
 The problem, even if you are not on a flight that uses the 737 is that airlines will need to move around other flights in the fleet to make up for it. I have no idea on what sort of ripple it will have in the market
 Oh yea!
 Good point. Thanks for the heads up
 Flight from atl to den is a 737
 nice knowing you
 @govatent your 2 week visit is almost up. we need to hang out again.
 Most definitely!
 @govatent, It won't be for long


[02:32] <anubhav> alsroot: hi
[02:32] <alsroot> anubhav: hi
[02:33] <anubhav> alsroot: i am working on followinf feature request http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Write_to_journal_anytime
[02:36] <anubhav> alsroot: i have made the following 2 working patches could you provide suggestions on the approach used 1.http://paste.ubuntu.com/523033/    2.http://paste.ubuntu.com/523029/
[02:37] <alsroot> anubhav: will look tomorrow (in my "tomorrow")
[02:38] <anubhav> alsroot: ok
[09:32] <anubhav> alsroot: hi
[11:21] <anubhav> alsroot: hi
[17:26] <satellit_> This is ubuntu 10.04LTS with full upgrades (135) then added  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sugarteam/ppa
[17:26] <satellit_>   sudo apt-get update
[17:26] <satellit_>   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sugar-remix per wiki. get no applications. Use 2nd USB to drag drop surf-115 and terminal to journal . Have to reboot to get applications to show on f3 ring.
[17:27] <satellit_> used ASLO to DL IRC-5.xo ....
[17:27] <satellitU1004USR> works
[17:29] <satellit_> presently have surf-115; IRC 5; terminal 31 loaded and they work logged in to gdm to USR
[17:35] <satellit_> manusheel: did you fix the ppa? it seems to work....
[18:10] <satellit_> I just sent e-mail to list re: 10.04LTS and ppa:sugarteam/ppa
[18:12] <dfarning> satellit_, it looks like the PPA is empty see https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/ppa
[18:17] <satellit_> dfarning: the test ppa is empty but ppa:sugarteam/ppa just worked
[18:17] <satellit_> https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/sugar-test is empty
[18:20] <satellit_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sugarteam/ppa
[18:26] <satellit_> dfarning: will you build a new USR and upload to /usr soon?
[18:26] <satellit_> 1007 is last one there
[18:31] <satellit_> lunch....


[18:02] <PaulW2U> jose: pleia2: who's taking care of this week's release?
[18:02] <jose> PaulW2U: I am
[18:03] <jose> will send out an email to editors in just a bit
[18:03] <jose> finishing some university stuff
[18:03] <PaulW2U> ok
[18:06] <tsimonq2> jose: I added the Loco Events section...any problems with that?
[18:07] <jose> tsimonq2: directly on the wiki, you mean? or on the doc?
[18:07] <jose> oh, oh, I see it
[18:07] <jose> no problem at all :)
[18:07] <tsimonq2> jose: k, cool :)\
[18:07] <tsimonq2> *:)


[13:25] <oly> hi, i am having a problem with a recipe on launchpad, i have tried it locally using dailydeb and pbuilder, but when it builds on launchpad it fails, when doing a copy ?
[13:25] <oly> the buildlog is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5561263/
[13:26] <oly> and the relevant line seems to be, dh_install: cp -a .//python-snippets debian/tmp//usr/share/geany/geanypy/plugins/geany-snippets/python/ returned exit code 1
[13:26] <oly> the reciepe is using a nest command wondering if it could be related to that ?
[18:20] <Munchor> Hey guys
[18:21] <Munchor> Let's say somebody accidentally deleted a branch on Launchpad
[18:21] <Munchor> Is there any way one could get it back?
[20:55] <cheako> Hello, is there a command line tool to upload files to a bug?
[20:57] <cheako> I'd like to upload a few files form /var/log, specifically dpkg.log and kern.log.1.
[20:58] <cheako> The web interface appears to do nothing when I hit upload.
[20:58] <cheako> err I hit "Post Comment"
[21:20] <thumper> cheako: I think ubuntu-bug can do this
[21:40] <cheako> apport-collect does nothing and ubuntu-bug does not have that feature documented.
[21:41] <cheako> The apport-collect says that a developer can have it add more information can I be a developer and "activate" it for these files?
[21:42] <cheako> thumper: This feature is not documented.
[21:43] <thumper> hmm... that's as much as I know
[21:43] <thumper> cheako: perhaps wgrant knows
[23:46] <wgrant> cheako: What doesn't work about the web interface?
[23:47] <cheako> wgrant: After hitting the "Post Comment" button it's like what it was previously.  In other words the "Post Comment" button doesn't do anything.
[23:47] <wgrant> cheako: Which Post Comment button where?
[23:48] <cheako> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1132541/+addcomment
[23:48] <cheako> If the site/code has more then one you should consider renaming them. :)
[23:48] <wgrant> We have a lot of things that have comments
[23:49] <wgrant> So, that's just a normal form
[23:49] <wgrant> If the Post Comment button does nothing then your browser is probably broken.
[23:49] <wgrant> There's no JS involved
[23:49] <cheako> Right, so I'm looking for alternate methods.
[23:49] <cheako> No point in trying to make a browser do something it should already do.
[23:50] <wgrant> If you're using apport-collect or ubuntu-bug then you might want to ask #ubuntu-bugs, as they're Ubuntu-specific tools, not part of Launchpad
[23:51] <cheako> thanks!