[01:51] <ubptgbot> FurmanS was added by: FurmanS
 I'm curious why Canonical discontinued Ubuntu touch?
 But Ubuntu still on canonical
 What the difference between . Ubuntu touch and Ubuntu desktop is it still has a different or its the same
 And on ubport official site why used open store not Ubuntu software center
 And I heard a rumor that Ubuntu software center also discontinued
 The project was started by Canonical Ltd. but Mark Shuttleworth announced that Canonical would terminate support due to lack of market interest on 5 April 2017.[6][7] It was then adopted by UBports as a community project.[8] The UBports project was seeded by Marius Gripsgard in 2015 and the source code was transferred to the UBports Founda
[04:26] <ubptgbot> tion where it now resides. UBports' mission is to support the collaborative development of Ubuntu Touch and to promote its widespread use.
 @H@ñß9ñ [The project was started by Canonical Ltd. but Mark Shuttleworth announced that C …], Nevermind found the reason why
 uh yeah and there are a lot of differences, from the content hub and media hub to the readonly rootfs and image based updates
 @Fuseteam [uh yeah and there are a lot of differences, from the content hub and media hub t …], Hmmm it's can't run APK thought
 Not lot of apps available for UT only for few user
 @H@ñß9ñ [Hmmm it's can't run APK thought], ofcourse not tis not android :p
 @Fuseteam [ofcourse not tis not android :p], Hmmm there is a limitation of app used
 the only way to resolve that is to either convince linux app devs or android app devs to support ut
 some are experimenting with ways to get legacy linux apps installations to play nice with ut's system but we only have so much resources and so much more things that deserve priority
[05:15] <ubptgbot> <Krish g> On ub on phone is it possible to add a Web page as a app  in the app tray if so how?
 @Krish g [On ub on phone is it possible to add a Web page as a app  in the app tray if so …], You can do that with Webber, is an app that creates web-apps
[05:17] <ubptgbot> <Krish g> @C0n57an71n [You can do that with Webber, is an app that creates web-apps], Is it available on the phone as a apt get?
 there is no apt package manager on UT
[05:18] <ubptgbot> <Krish g> Found it
[05:18] <ubptgbot> <Krish g> Ty
 click is the packaging format
[05:20] <ubptgbot> <Krish g> Ow waw webby is fantastic,  good work devs
 you can try this as well https://open-store.io/app/webapp-creator.jujuyeh
 webber does essentially the same thing fwiw
 Does anyone know why my desktop Telegram doesn't sync with my Mobile Telegram? I thouht it would. But it seems not to be. ie: This very message that I am typing now — it's from my desktop. But when I go to Telegram on my phone, UBports[ENGLISH] is nowhere to be seen. Only my actual phone contacts can be seen in the list.
 I also created a group (via dessktop Telegram), but when I log into Telegram on my phone, it's nowhere to be seen either.
 Telegram is an odd piece of software...
 UT was totally a different thing
 😂
 I think it has something to do with a QR code
 @triorbit [Does anyone know why my desktop Telegram doesn't sync with my Mobile Telegram? I …], It generally sync fine. Of couse except private chats. Do you use Teleports on UT? That is the native maintained app. I think there is an old unmaintained Telegram app. Don't use that.
 @triorbit [Does anyone know why my desktop Telegram doesn't sync with my Mobile Telegram? I …], On UT you need to use Teleports. To log in you need to provide a phone number. After that, you'll receive a code from Telegram on an opened Telegram app (say on the Desktop, if you are already logged in).
 It's ok. got it all sorted now. I was getting confused with all my phones lol — taking sim out of this and into that, swapping over etc.. boggled myself which phone was which :)
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 @Pasquale Kristiansen [<reply to media>], Spam
 @Follpvosten [Found it: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/dav.html], Hi guys, I am still working on my DAV-sync and I ran that scribt above but I got a couple of Errors.  … [ERROR] error code from SyncEvolution fatal error (local, status 10500): no such datastore(s): _jsCALENDAR_NAME … [ERROR] No configuration template
[09:59] <ubptgbot>  for '_jscalendar_config_name@default' available. … And the same errors for my contacts. … Any idea how do I fix them?
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/B0BgzErK.null
 Sorry, I have no idea, I haven't managed to get to installing UT yet. But I think better dav support might be in the works now?
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/6k0snF7K.null
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 @EfilopardirosoYbi [<reply to media>], Fake
 @EfilopardirosoYbi [<reply to media>], Spam!
 fast question, is it there any guide to program apps for UT? And is it there any guide to port linux programs?
 @Alexi [fast question, is it there any guide to program apps for UT? And is it there any …], http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/
 And welcome :)
 thank you very much!
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 Can i port the galaxy J5....
 @Babybrave [Can i port the galaxy J5....], If you will and have the skill
 There is no porting done for this device, these are the one supported: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 That means you need to have the device and you need to do the porting yourself
 is there a terminal command in ubtouch similar to apt-get update?
 no
 what do you want to update?
 @C0n57an71n [what do you want to update?], ota didn't showed up for them in devel channel
 @ItsMeShouko [ota didn't showed up for them in devel channel], Devel gets daily updates - unless ports WIP. Then the maintainer needs to push updates. I havn't heard of anytthng else to pull updates. Except maybe going through repos manually yourself.
 @ItsMeShouko [ota didn't showed up for them in devel channel], [Edit] Devel gets daily updates - unless ports WIP. Then the maintainer needs to push updates. I havn't heard of anytting else to pull updates. Except maybe going through repos manually yourself.
 @Fillername [is there a terminal command in ubtouch similar to apt-get update?], let's try this, flash that ut zip, boot the os and try checking for updates, it should work then
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 @ItsMeShouko [let's try this, flash that ut zip, boot the os and try checking for updates, it …], ok, i'll have to try later in the day, just heading out, thanks again for your help
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 Hi I reflashed my Volla and restored system-data and user-data from my bacon. … 1. Circle messages work now 👍 … 2. BUT Now it's not possible anymore to change the display brightness. There is the slider in settings but it is inactive. Does anybody know how to fix it?
 Switching channels did not help btw
 [Edit] Hi I reflashed my Volla and restored system-data and user-data (and .cache and .config) from my bacon. … 1. Circle messages work now 👍 … 2. BUT Now it's not possible anymore to change the display brightness. There is the slider in settings but it is inactive. Does anybody know how to fix it?
 I have a question did Ubuntu touch have whatapps?
 Official whatapo
 What app
 Because Facebook said they are collecting more data from user
 This freak me out
 why ask :P
 doesn't matter, using a different client doesn't help the situation
 Does UT support for AR
 @stkalb [Hi I reflashed my Volla and restored system-data and user-data (and .cache and . …], is this in the settings app or the indicator? … do you have auto-brightness enabled?
[16:13] <ubptgbot> <Alvin L> https://youtu.be/3E0ADUIiFzA
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 No thanks
 Can I build halium 9 for my device using a VM on windows? And is there a way to simulate my device too so that I can make the abstraction layer bootable before debug? Or can I build it from usb-boot ubuntu?
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[16:22] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @Javacookies [is this in the settings app or the indicator? … do you have auto-brightness enable …], Auto brightness is not yet implemented in Volla, at least in the stable channel:  … https://github.com/HelloVolla/ubuntu-touch-beta-tests/issues/20
 Yes, but was auto-brightness on on your oneplus one
 That setting, uh, wouldn't be checked
 How to enable VoLTE in redmi 4x with UT?
 ah yes, of it was, that will be carried over to Volla and brightness slider is disabled when autobrightness is enabled, well at least in the settings app
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 @Alvin L [https://youtu.be/3E0ADUIiFzA], Open Source?
 had a quick scan round their website and couldnt find a source repo
[16:47] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @suriyaprasanth [How to enable VoLTE in redmi 4x with UT?], VolTE is not yet implemented in UT.
 Oh ok
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 @Javacookies [ah yes, of it was, that will be carried over to Volla and brightness slider is d …], there is no auto brightness on volla
 well perhaps but the settings is still there? … can't remember though if it was gsettings or app settings … if gsettings I would guess it exists when he migrated the whole system and user data
 @Javacookies [is this in the settings app or the indicator? … do you have auto-brightness enable …], Didn't recognize in 5 years using UT brightness conzroll indicator 😅  … The indicator works. In system settings the slider is kind of deactivated. I know there's no autobrightness, but slider worked before. Therefore I think it must be rel
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 yes, the disablement in the settings app was just recently implemented. It's not working anyway even when enabled when autobrightness is enabled
 but seriously, 5 years without exploring the indicators? 🙂
 @Fillername [is there a terminal command in ubtouch similar to apt-get update?], we don't need a similar command to `apt update` as that just refreshes the repo, our `repo` for end user is the store and its always up to date :p
 @ItsMeShouko [ota didn't showed up for them in devel channel], ah i see hmm i would guess that commandline for that would be `system-image-cli` at the very least one can switch channels with that so checking for updates could work too?
 @C0n57an71n ^
 @H@ñß9ñ [What app], whatsapp doesn't support ut we've been over this
 @Javacookies [yes, the disablement in the settings app was just recently implemented. It's not …], Yeah, dummy me 😝 … But if autobrightess is disabled or inexistent the slider should should work. Otherwise it's meaningless. Aaaaand I really do know it worked on volla before.
 No, the thing is that it was enabled on your old device, so that setting was set to true. You moved that setting to your new device, so it thinks autobrightness is on. That's a bug, but it's also an explanation for what you're seeing.
 yeah, I think the logic should consider that as well since there are devices without it yet
 I'm culprit, I think I did that PR 😄
 i'm guessing it due to `system-data` being copied from bacon?
 @UniversalSuperBox [No, the thing is that it was enabled on your old device, so that setting was set …], Ah, thanks Dalton. Now I understand. Do you know where this setting is?
 In which file?
 where can i check the log file in ubtouch? i'm on an img from 10/24 and when i check for updates, it says i'm up to date, i'm on development channel. When i run system-image-cli it says an exception occurred during update, see log file
 @Fillername [where can i check the log file in ubtouch? i'm on an img from 10/24 and when i c …], I'd suggest to remove cache of systemsettings app using uttt.
 k, just fyi, apps are updating
 Or switch channel to rc and than back to dev
 @Fillername [where can i check the log file in ubtouch? i'm on an img from 10/24 and when i c …], What device? Is it GSI?
 mia2
 Yeah. I also had this once. It was a stucked update for me which was resolved by deleting cache. But maybe you have a different issue.
 @Fillername [mia2], maybe you gotta wait for a day for new update to push first
 @ItsMeShouko [maybe you gotta wait for a day for new update to push first], k, i'll give it some time
 @Fillername [where can i check the log file in ubtouch? i'm on an img from 10/24 and when i c …], try to install again with ubports-installer and select devel channel there
 Hello, how to install anbox directly from the Ubuntu Touch terminal ?
 @RoninGamer47 [Hello, how to install anbox directly from the Ubuntu Touch terminal ?], It isn't useful and right now in pre alpha state
 @ItsMeShouko [It isn't useful and right now in pre alpha state], I saw that people install by ubuntu on pc
 @RoninGamer47 [I saw that people install by ubuntu on pc], ubuntu touch is not ubuntu
 @RoninGamer47 [I saw that people install by ubuntu on pc], [Edit] ubuntu touch is not same ubuntu on desktop
 @RoninGamer47 [I saw that people install by ubuntu on pc], [Edit] ubuntu touch is not same ubuntu that you see on desktop
 eu gosto muito do sistema porem não tem apps que utilizo no dia a dia como whatsapp, apps de banco
 @RoninGamer47 [eu gosto muito do sistema porem não tem apps que utilizo no dia a dia como whats …], use english please
 @RoninGamer47 [eu gosto muito do sistema porem não tem apps que utilizo no dia a dia como whats …], sim perro nos falamos solo ingles e anbox nao è usable
 @ItsMeShouko [use english please], I hope that in the future anbox will provide us with this
 @RoninGamer47 [eu gosto muito do sistema porem não tem apps que utilizo no dia a dia como whats …], I really like the system but there are no apps that I use on a daily basis like whatsapp, bank apps
 fwiw ut does have whatsapp web and whatsapp is planning to allow whatsapp web to function without an android phone
 They want you to use an iPhone instead /s
 @Fuseteam [fwiw ut does have whatsapp web and whatsapp is planning to allow whatsapp web to …], that already interested me
 the real hurdle is tho that you'll probably need an android phone to log in the first time
 @Fuseteam [fwiw ut does have whatsapp web and whatsapp is planning to allow whatsapp web to …], do you already have a forecast for that ?
 unless they emulate telegram
 forecast?
 @RoninGamer47 [Hello, how to install anbox directly from the Ubuntu Touch terminal ?], on a device that has anbox supported, if you are on devel channel, just run `anbox-tool install`
 @dohbee [on a device that has anbox supported, if you are on devel channel, just run anbo …], in the dev channel to run then ?
 dev or maybe rc; on stable it's still more of a pain to do, and well may not actually be doable currently
 @dohbee [dev or maybe rc; on stable it's still more of a pain to do, and well may not act …], rc seria o edge?
 do not use edge
 rc series O edge?
 @RoninGamer47 [rc seria o edge?], rc o dev
 ok I'll take the test
 do you use ubuntu touch on a daily basis or do you use another system ?
 i use ut daily
 tho i do have a cheap android phone for some application
 [Edit] tho i do have a cheap android phone for some applications
 @Fuseteam [tho i do have a cheap android phone for some applications], Show
 show what?
 my device?
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 I wanted very good, it is a giria here in Brazil
 giria?
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], Anime lmao
 way of speaking
 you may be interested in the portugues group at https://t.me/ubports_PT
 there are also people from brazil in there iirc
 @amyosx [Anime lmao], good eye lol
 I use a samsung S7 edge with /e / OS , and a nexus 4 with ubuntu
 @Fuseteam [good eye lol], Idk why I just like seeing the apps people use
 @RoninGamer47 [I use a samsung S7 edge with /e / OS , and a nexus 4 with ubuntu], ewwlo
 jk
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 Cute
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], based
 my ideal start up screen :p … just kidding tis the "show desktop" app
 @Fuseteam [you may be interested in the portugues group at https://t.me/ubports_PT], it is disabled
 its disabled?
 Nope
 Maybe ur banned
 @ItsMeShouko [based], clannad
 @Fuseteam [its disabled?], Yes
 guess with only 65 member it is not that active
 I participated, they deactivated the group and I came to this
 huh?
 that's odd
[20:04] <ubptgbot> agoodmatt was added by: agoodmatt
 Hi Guys! There's a specific group for web interface of the project?
 the wut?
 Web Development. A team to develop the website of UbPorts
[20:14] <ubptgbot> Ravi Singh was added by: Ravi Singh
[20:16] <ubptgbot> <Ravi Singh> Hi Guys, is there any  other phone available besides android and iPhone.
 @Ravi Singh [Hi Guys, is there any  other phone available besides android and iPhone.], iphone? never knew ut runs on iphone ;)
[20:17] <ubptgbot> <Ravi Singh> I mean Ubuntu’s operating system
[20:18] <ubptgbot> <Ravi Singh> Or Linux based phone.
 @Ravi Singh [Or Linux based phone.], Please rephrase your question. What are you looking for?
 You want to buy a phone running ubuntu touch?
[20:19] <ubptgbot> <Ravi Singh> Yes
 @Ravi Singh [Yes], Try volla phone
 @Ravi Singh [Yes], [Edit] Try looking up volla phone
[20:20] <ubptgbot> <Ravi Singh> Can I get this in USA?
 @Ravi Singh [Can I get this in USA?], I think so
 I don't think Ubuntu Touch supports volte yet though
[20:21] <ubptgbot> <Ravi Singh> Do you know any Linux based phone because I am tired of android and iPhone?
 @Ravi Singh [Do you know any Linux based phone because I am tired of android and iPhone?], Then try pinephone?
 @Ravi Singh [Do you know any Linux based phone because I am tired of android and iPhone?], [Edit] Then try looking for pinephone?
[20:23] <ubptgbot> <Ravi Singh> Wonderful, thanks
 @ItsMeShouko [Then try looking for pinephone?], xperia x rodando sailfishOS
 @ItsMeShouko [Then try looking for pinephone?], [Edit] xperia X running sailfishOS
[20:46] <ubptgbot> <Aki Siika-aho> I am receiving call but I do not want to answer so I decide to 'reject call and send message'. Is it possible to edit those default 'cant answer' messages?
 @Ravi Singh [Do you know any Linux based phone because I am tired of android and iPhone?], https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 how do I install the anbox kernel ?
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 is asking to install the anbox kernel before, anyone know how to proceed ?
[21:16] <ubptgbot> <david ferchaud> @Heng Ye [Anyone here who can test kirin,pioneer,or mermaid? (Sony Xperia XA2, 10, 10 Plus …], Hi Heng Ye, I have tested on my xperia 10
[21:18] <ubptgbot> <david ferchaud> But i can't get the phone part to work
[21:18] <ubptgbot> <david ferchaud> help me, please
 @RoninGamer47 [how do I install the anbox kernel ?], what device?
 @dohbee [what device?], Nexus 4
 @RoninGamer47 [Nexus 4], nexus 4 doesn't have support for anbox yet
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 @Javacookies [well perhaps but the settings is still there? … can't remember though if it was gs …], not in settings at all
[21:46] <ubptgbot> <Ravi Singh> @dohbee [https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io], Thanks
[21:48] <ubptgbot> eric duveau was added by: eric duveau
[21:48] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> Hi Ubuntu touch expects
[21:50] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> experts
[21:50] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> How are you?
 @stkalb [Didn't recognize in 5 years using UT brightness conzroll indicator 😅  … The indic …], that is a strange situation then,
 you will probally want to do:
[21:53] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> I need some help to flash my oneplus one
 gsettings set com.ubuntu.touch.system auto-brightness false
[21:54] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> it is fastboot mode now
 @mateosalta [gsettings set com.ubuntu.touch.system auto-brightness false], Thanks, I'll try that.
[21:55] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> but it is not recognized by ubport installer
[21:56] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> Waiting for device... … Adb is scanning for devices
 @mateosalta [gsettings set com.ubuntu.touch.system auto-brightness false], Great: worked. Thanks a lot!
 @eric duveau [Waiting for device... … Adb is scanning for devices], ADB needs phone in recovery mode not fastboot.
[21:57] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> ok
[21:57] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> thank you
[21:59] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> now I get UBports RECOVERY menu
[22:00] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> what show I do to flash it again?*
[22:01] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> I got the following choices:
[22:01] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> Reboot system now
[22:01] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> ubuntu actions
[22:01] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> android actions
[22:01] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> Reboot to bootloader
[22:02] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> Power down
[22:02] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> view recovery logs
 Just wait.
 @Ravi Singh [Can I get this in USA?], volla in usa wont get 4g frequecies, 2g only on tmobile right now for me
 If the installer does not continue, restart the installer.
[22:05] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> @stkalb [If the installer does not continue, restart the installer.], installer is restarted
 @eric duveau [what show I do to flash it again?*], If you are on linux you can check if adb works if you type in a terminal 'adb devices'. That should detect your phone.
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[22:06] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> eric@eric-NUC:~$ adb devices … List of devices attached … adb server version (41) doesn't match this client (39); killing... … * daemon started successfully … 54dc8bec  unauthorized
 I think your boot loader is not unlocked. If I recall correctly you need to activate developer mode in android settings beforehand.
[22:10] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> I reboot
[22:11] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> but it am stuck to powered by Ubuntu
 @eric duveau [eric@eric-NUC:~$ adb devices … List of devices attached … adb server version (41) do …], I am sorry it's quite late here and I am on my way to bed. Maybe more focused help is available at the https://t.me/WelcomePlus Channel.
[22:12] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> Thank you Stefan
[22:12] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> You helped me a lot
 @eric duveau [You helped me a lot], You are welcome.  Your current issue is beyond my knowledge unfortunately. But I am sure there will be someone who is able to help you. Good night.
[22:20] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> Good night where are you located?
[22:20] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @golliath51 [Hi Heng Ye, I have tested on my xperia 10], what do you mean by "the phone part"?
[22:20] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> does it boot?
 @eric duveau [Good night where are you located?], Switzerland.
 yes
 i have wifi
 but not cellular
[22:21] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @golliath51 [yes], what ROM was installed before you installed UT
[22:22] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @golliath51 [yes], [Edit] what ROM was installed before you installed UT?
[22:22] <ubptgbot> <eric duveau> @stkalb [Switzerland.], Not far from me but you are one hour in advance 😉
 just a second, i check
 @Heng Ye [what ROM was installed before you installed UT?], I4113 53.0.A.14.28 customized_uk 1317-9618 r5a
 @Heng Ye [what ROM was installed before you installed UT?], with emma
[22:28] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @golliath51 cellular works for me, what provider are you using? note that providers that only use volte probably won't work
 bouygues telecom in france
[22:30] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @golliath51 it worked previously with that ROM?
 @Heng Ye [@golliath51 it worked previously with that ROM?], i don't now
 @golliath51 [i don't now], i don't know
[22:31] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> then I can't be sure, ubuntu touch relies on the firmware in the `vendor` partition, but since it's flashed in emma it should be right … APN set correctly, all those?
 @Heng Ye [then I can't be sure, ubuntu touch relies on the firmware in the vendor partitio …], How i can in UT
[22:35] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> in teh settings
[22:35] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> set APN
[22:35] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> make sure it is the same as you set previously in other OSes
 into settings, i have networks: Wifi, bluetooth, RPV only
 no APN in my settings menu
[22:37] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> oh sim not detected
[22:37] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> try this:
[22:37] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> `sudo lsmod`
[22:37] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> what comes out?
 sim_detect, wlan
 ..pn552
 553
 texfat
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[22:40] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> so sim_detect is loaded...is there a logo in the top bar when you put in sim card and reboot
[22:40] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> [Edit] so sim_detect is loaded...is there a logo in the top bar after you put in sim card and reboot
 I don't have logo
[22:41] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> what is in the top bar
 bluetooth, network, battery, position...
 clock, system
 rotation, keyboard, notification, folder
 no SIM
[22:45] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> i'm going offline for today, maybe I can help you tomorrow
 do you know a command to detect sim?
[22:47] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> maybe `ip a` but it worked for me out of the box
 ok thanks
 bye
 On ubuntu touch does not have the option to do tethering ?
[23:01] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> Rndis
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[09:40] <Recusant> chirp chirp..
[09:43] <Recusant> Hiya, i'm new to Ubuntu and i'm finding connecting to my NAS to be troublesome. I found a web page that is probably out of date because it's not exactly right, but i figued it out from it. My god it was more complicated than i thought it would be. Is it easier than this page suggests? http://www.scribbleit.co.uk/blog/how-to-get-ubuntu-10-10-to-access-network-attached-storage-devices/
[10:11] <geirha> Recusant: That's about as easy as it is in windows, isn't it?
[10:14] <geirha> If you intend for your NAS to be on 24/7, and you're connecting to it from a stationary computer, I'd consider using nfs instead
[10:16] <Recusant> Hi geirha, in Windows all i do is go to 'network' and click on the share i want. In Ubuntu, the shares don't appear. :(
[10:17] <Recusant> the NAS isn't 24/7.
[10:17] <Recusant> various computers connect to it, laptops, PCs, Media Players etc.
[10:18] <geirha> hm. Mine shows up with all the shares when I browse the network
[10:21] <Recusant> hmm.. i'm doing this on a wireless netbook - WUBI install as an experiment. I tried it with a hard wired PC earlier - it wouldn't see the NAS either. I have a vague recollection of using Mint Live (USB) on my main PC, and i could access the NAS as easily as you say. I wonder what the trick is.
[10:22] <geirha> This netbook is seeing it over the wireless connection
[10:23] <Recusant> Did you do any configuration to get it there, or you just installed it and fired it up and viola, your NAS was visible in your network drives?
[10:25] <geirha> pretty much
[10:28] <geirha> you are able to connect directly to it though? list its shares if you have the ip?
[10:29] <Recusant> good question. I'll try that after WinXP finishes it's shutdown updates. Gotta love Windows, eh? ;)
[10:29] <geirha> Do you know what domain/workgroup the nas is using?
[10:30] <Recusant> on a side note, are you using Ubuntu or Xubuntu on your netbook? This one i have is from 2009 - so pretty old.
[10:30] <Recusant> ..not old by computer standards, but netbooks aren't exactly beefy.
[10:30] <geirha> Ubuntu 12.04 and it was probably manufactured around 2010
[10:33] <Recusant> oh HAHAHHA, wth!
[10:34] <Recusant> i just rebooted, didn't change anything (well, removed a HOSTS file entry for another experiment/issue re seeing windows shares) and now the NAS APPEARS!
[10:34]  * Recusant confused.
[10:34] <Recusant> the hosts entry i made was after i wasn't seeing the NAS though, so i don't have a clue what was going on there.
[10:35] <Recusant> my other, experiment PC, also had this same problem earlier.
[10:35] <Recusant> That's for listening geirha :)
[10:36] <Recusant> while you're here - what might be an equivelent to Windows "end task" in the task manager?
[10:37] <geirha> I generally use the command line for that, but there should be a gui similar to task manager
[10:38] <Recusant> i was so excited to see the NAS, i clicked on it to enter and accidently hit 'ok' before entering credentials - it's sitting there and i can't cancel it :(
[10:38] <geirha> System Monitor
[10:39] <geirha> Ah yeah, that takes a while to fail. (Same problem in windows though)
[10:48] <Recusant> i figure it'll be quicker to reboot :P
[10:49] <Recusant> this is fun, maybe one day i'll be able to actually use Ubuntu and not spend all day just trying to figure out it's quirks.
[10:50] <Recusant> Mind you, i'm not completely sold on Unity. For actual productive work, i prefer Cinnamon i think (not that i've used it much at all.
[10:51] <geirha> Well, it's just the default desktop environment. You can install and use any DE/WM you like
[10:53] <Recusant> Yeah, i saw that i could install Cinnamon, which is why i decided to try to learn Ubuntu, rather than Mint. I build computers for charity, and XP is both too old and i don't have many licenses, so i looked at Linux. I've only just started.
[10:55] <geirha> kubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu are also ubuntu btw. The only difference is that they have different default desktop environments
[10:58] <Recusant> i've installed Edubuntu on an old laptop, but i didn't really see the point of it. I kind of expected easy access to the different age-group tools/games. But nothing was categorised that i could see so i'd have to spend hours going through picking stuff out. Maybe if i'd chosen the 'gnome' desktop in the install options.
[10:59] <Recusant> I was going to put Xubuntu on the netbook, because i've read that it's lighter on resources.
[10:59] <Recusant> Thanks for your info/help this evening. I'm off to bed (2200hrs) Nice to know i can come here.
[15:02] <carolp> Hi there, back again. tonight I am working on another laptop with win7 collapsed!!
[15:03] <carolp> Problem is I am trying to instal ubuntu 12 desktop as I did last night on another laptop, only this time UBUNTU has a non-moving process "ntfsresize -f -i /dev/sda2"
[15:04] <carolp> on the hp laptop yesterday, I was offered the option to manually partition, but it has gone srtaight into auto partition on this tosh
[15:06] <carolp> By the way how can I find a chat room for fixing Furbys? Multitaskng here ...
[15:07] <carolp> sorry, that was offtoppic  whoops!
[15:08] <duanedesign> hello carolp
[15:08] <carolp> hi duane
[15:11] <duanedesign> carolp: what version of Windows did you have?
[15:11] <duanedesign> oops
[15:11] <duanedesign> sorry you said Win7
[15:12] <duanedesign> I am not immediately sure what the problem might be. I am poking around in some bugs to see if I can find anything
[15:12] <carolp> it's rubbish, but everybody I know still buys it
[15:13] <carolp> might be some laptops need a switch to find the option, but which and how?
[15:15] <carolp> On the hp last night I found that all of the disk was partitioneed -4 - for win7. This non-moving - can't say stopped! - process may be having the same hard time I had last night finding sufficient space ...
[15:16] <carolp> I have tried running sudo partman outside the instal but can't write the files and logs required on the disk!
[15:17] <carolp> onto the disc
[15:22] <duanedesign> carolp:  On the Live CD  you can go to System > Administration > GParted and resize your partitions before running the installer
[15:23] <duanedesign> actually that is probably a little different in Ubuntu 12.04
[15:24] <duanedesign> gparted could probably be found by opening the Dash (by clicking the Ubuntu icon in the top left) and typing in gparted
[15:25] <wilee-nilee> windows 7 has its own partitioner as well.
[15:26] <duanedesign> true. If you use the Windows partitioner be sure to defrag the disk first, The linux partitioners dont care about this step.
[15:30] <carolp> can't start win7 which is why I am installing ubuntu so that my mate can at least get at the precious stuff. Being a windozer I have to make it as simple as possible for them using ubuntu :D
[15:32] <carolp> I have quit the installation, but ntfsresize is still "running" - should I kill it?
[15:34] <geirha> carolp: how much did you resize it?
[15:34] <carolp> it went straight into auto partition - no manually partitioning offered
[15:38] <carolp> I've forgotten - the time , column 7 in ps -edf measures what? because it has gon eup from O to OO:OO:O1
[15:43] <duanedesign> Time
[15:43] <carolp> as in processng time or tme elapsed? If processing time it might still be doing something?
[15:44] <duanedesign> The cumulative execution time for the process
[15:44] <duanedesign> so the processing time
[15:45] <duanedesign> I hate to tell someone to quit the installer...but if it is stuck you might not have any other option
[15:46] <carolp> already quit the installer, now watching ntfsresize
[15:46] <carolp> it's been on that one for a long time - is it safe to kill it?
[15:48] <duanedesign> that is what I would probably do.
[15:52] <carolp> Been tracking through the pids and found it is resizing after "activate-dmraid" - is this perhaps significant?
[15:59] <carolp> ok ntfsresize killed, gparted now scanning - I'll keep you posted? thanks for your help so far.
[15:59] <duanedesign> dont think that is significant unless you have a RAID setup
[15:59] <carolp> I don't
[15:59] <duanedesign> kk
[17:01] <ack> My computer screen is black after loading Ubuntu, need a touch to see ?   can anyone help
[17:02] <thewrath> hey all
[17:05] <ack> I have the black screen of death
[17:05] <carolp> ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda2   is what gparted is hung on, "Houston, we have a problem"
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> ack, Loaded means installed?
[17:59] <thewrath> ack it could be kernel panic
[17:59] <thewrath> how hard is it to set up a mail server on Ubuntu?
[17:59] <thewrath> I have a domain name but want to verify
[19:43] <carolp> so it finally sorted itself - there is some kind of problem with the windows partition /dev/sda2 which stalls ntfsresize during both instal and gparted. I have manually created / and /boot and I shall keep you posted as I proceed
[21:17] <thewrath> exit
[21:42] <t4nk803> What is a good book or online tutorial that I can get to become comfortable experimenting with my linux machine?


[09:58] <mhr3> mzanetti, btw your activate-appid branch landed
[09:58] <mzanetti> mhr3: yeah, seen that. thank!
[09:59] <mzanetti> +s
[09:59] <mhr3> hope we didn't break clicks again :)
[09:59] <mzanetti> mhr3: heh. no I fixed the reason why this was reverted the first time :=
[10:45] <mzanetti> anyone happens to know a workaround for the "error during hwc set"? I'd need to test something when locking and waking up the device
[10:48] <mhr3> tsdgeos, what's the difference between new-scopes-cleanup and ..-clean-to-trunk?
[10:48] <tsdgeos> mhr3: cleanup has tests that pass and unneeded files removed
[10:50] <mhr3> ah, so it's a dep
[11:01] <Saviq> mzanetti, restarting unity8 while the screen is on should work
[11:01] <mzanetti> Saviq: hmm, no, doesn't seem to help. I use run_on_device. That crashes as soon as the screen blanks regardless of the state when it was started
[11:02] <Saviq> mzanetti, hum, other than reboot, dunno what else
[11:02] <mzanetti> Saviq: but I got it fixed by fiddling with the installed qml code and using upstart
[11:03] <Saviq> mzanetti, hmm I wonder if we need to tweak run_on_device for system compositor...
[11:03] <mzanetti> still this is a bit nasty in everydays work. Will this be tackled by the "who-talks-to-powerd" discussion?
[11:03] <Saviq> mzanetti, most probably, yeah
[11:04] <Saviq> /food
[11:21] <tsdgeos> Cimi: ping
[11:21] <Cimi> tsdgeos, ponbg
[11:22] <tsdgeos> Cimi: if i send you some self compiled Qt 5.2 libs can you try if you can reproduce the crash with them?
[11:22] <Cimi> tsdgeos, nope I can't
[11:22] <Cimi> of course I can silly!
[11:22] <Cimi> tsdgeos, send them over
[11:23] <Cimi> tsdgeos, but before you tell me the secrets of debugging such crashes
[11:23] <tsdgeos> i don't even know how i reached that conclusion :D
[11:23] <tsdgeos> so i compiled everything with ASAN
[11:23] <Cimi> hah
[11:23] <tsdgeos> and ended up with something that resembles http://paste.ubuntu.com/7083801/
[11:24] <tsdgeos> and then i said something is going on with QQmlVME
[11:24] <tsdgeos> and then i did this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084035/
[11:24] <tsdgeos> it's all a bit blurry tbh
[11:24] <tsdgeos> but can't really explain mroe :D
[11:24] <tsdgeos> ASAN = adding -fsanitize=address to all the compile lines of qt, unity8, etc
[11:32] <tsdgeos> Cimi: sent
[12:01] <maxb> Argh. The new unity lock screen is very pretty, but almost every time I unlock the screen, it relocks immediately once, effectively requiring my password twice every time I sit down at my computer. Is this a known bug?
[12:03] <Cimi> Trevinho, ^
[12:03] <mhr3> Saviq, distro version of scopes-api now listening to the scope-ui-... signal
[12:03] <Saviq> mhr3, cool, reverting the temporary thing in new-scopes
[12:12] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I think it fixes for me
[12:13] <tsdgeos> \o/
[12:34] <paulliu> Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity8/zoomImage/+merge/207941
[12:35] <paulliu> Saviq: BTW, why jenkins failed?
[12:35] <paulliu> Saviq: I got 404 today when I tried to open the link.
[12:35] <Saviq> paulliu, which link?
[12:36] <paulliu> Saviq: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity8-ci/2403/
[12:36] <Saviq> paulliu, that's some really old job
[12:37] <Saviq> paulliu, autopilot failures are known/fixed - i.e. the unicode ones are fixed, the process not found ones are Qt 5.0 crashes - fixed with 5.2 (to land today)
[12:37] <Saviq> paulliu, here's the latest run for that branch https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity8-ci/2468/
[12:37] <paulliu> Saviq: ok. I'll try to kick a rebuild.
[12:37] <Saviq> paulliu, I can do that if you can't
[12:37] <paulliu> Saviq: ah.. please do.
[12:38] <Saviq> paulliu, wait(300); is never a good thing
[12:38] <Saviq> paulliu, is there something you can wait for? a signal, some property reaching some value?
[12:39] <paulliu> Saviq: Let me research that a bit. Actually something weird there.
[13:13] <rsalveti> tsdgeos: mind checking bug 1291602?
[13:27] <Mirv> tsdgeos: so with 5.2 we have that ^ + we might need to use qtwebkit 5.1.1 instead of the newer one because of OpenGL game problems
[13:38] <mzanetti> Saviq: Qt.inputMethod.hide() doesn't do anything. Is that intentional to not allow anything to interfere with it?
[13:38] <mzanetti> or well, do you know something about this?
[13:39] <Saviq> mzanetti, sounds like a bug to me, check with bfiller
[13:39] <mzanetti> Saviq: ack, thanks
[13:43] <tsdgeos> rsalveti: Mirv: desktop too or phone only?
[13:43] <rsalveti> tsdgeos: only tested it with phone
[13:43] <tsdgeos> rsalveti: do you know how i get com.ubuntu.developer.andrewsomething.stackbrowser_stackbrowser_0.2.2 on the desktop?
[13:44] <rsalveti> tsdgeos: let me grab the click
[13:45] <rsalveti> tsdgeos: http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/com.ubuntu.developer.andrewsomething.stackbrowser.tar.bz2
[13:47] <tsdgeos> rsalveti: do you know what provides U1db qml module?
[13:48] <tsdgeos> qtdeclarative5-u1db1.0
[13:49] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yes
[13:49] <Saviq> tsdgeos, and you need qtdeclarative5-friends0.2, too
[13:49] <Saviq> tsdgeos, and yeah, crashed here on desktop
[13:49] <tsdgeos> yep, installing that one now
[13:50] <tsdgeos> yep, crash
[13:50] <tsdgeos> binding loop for the model doesn't sound cool
[13:51] <tsdgeos> Saviq: so what's more urgent debug this crash or finish the testcase for the other crash i am fixing?
[13:51] <tsdgeos> i guess "both" :D
[13:51] <Saviq> tsdgeos, unity8
[13:51] <tsdgeos> ok
[14:11] <mhr3> kgunn, fix your mic! :)
[14:16] <kgunn> i know right....
[14:23] <Saviq> kgunn, `rm ~/.config/pulse; pulseaudio -k`
[14:24] <Saviq> btw, /me in vUDS session, might not make standup
[14:29] <kgunn> Saviq: ack
[14:31] <mzanetti> @unity: standup
[14:32] <kgunn> hang on...deleting my pulseaudio cfg's
[14:43] <Saviq> nice timing ;D
[14:43] <mterry> Saviq, just saw you join as I quit, yeah  :)
[14:46] <kgunn> he planned it
[14:47] <kgunn> dandrader: curious, can you list the branches & any instructions to see what you've done ? (per your description this morning with live previews)
[14:47] <kgunn> very cool btw
[14:52] <dandrader> kgunn, here https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1IiHBDIW_e0qnGt-po1D2z5HJKrNhBwh6pdILeEN2sgA/edit#heading=h.z8j86m70rm
[14:52] <kgunn> dandrader: thanks...now instead of reading window management docs, i'll be completely distracted replicating this :P
[14:52] <kgunn> too cool
[14:58] <dandrader> kgunn, what do you mean by "live previews"? I fear you might be having wrong expectations. :)  Actually, the code changes (cleaner arch., simpler unity8 code) are more exciting than what you see on the screen.
[15:04] <dandrader> kgunn, the issues I listed there I would like Mir guys to help out with during the sprint. think that's feasible (will there be time for it)?
[15:06] <kgunn> dandrader: yes!
[15:06] <kgunn> perfect
[15:24] <mhr3_> Saviq, hm, something wrong with cards in new-scopes-cleanup, searching in apps gives cards with no text
[15:25] <mhr3_> Saviq, and works fine with the old new-scopes branch
[15:25] <Saviq> mhr3_, checking
[15:25] <Cimi> Saviq, might be tsdgeos fix for the tabs
[15:25] <Cimi> if he added it
[15:26] <Saviq> Cimi, doesn't sound like it
[15:26] <Saviq> Cimi, since tabs should only affect header, not cards themselves
[15:27] <Cimi> aaah ok
[15:27] <Cimi> sorry misread
[15:27] <Cimi> I meant this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/new-scopes-cleanup/revision/723#qml/Dash/DashContent.qml
[15:27] <Cimi> for reference
[15:40] <Saviq> mhr3_, terminate called after throwing an instance of 'kj::ExceptionImpl'
[15:40] <Saviq>   what():  src/capnp/layout.c++:1822: requirement not met: expected ref->kind() == WirePointer::STRUCT; Message contains non-struct pointer where struct pointer was expected.
[15:40] <Saviq> mhr3_, looks like you need to restart scope-registry from time to time ;P
[15:40] <mhr3_> Saviq, especially when we do major updates :)
[15:40] <Saviq> mhr3_, indeed
[15:41] <Saviq> mhr3_, not getting any scopes anyway, so probably not really important ;P
[15:41]  * Saviq purges 5.2
[15:41] <mhr3_> i'm running 5.2 as well, wfm
[15:47] <dandrader> mzanetti, did you make a PPA or a handy set of .debs to try out your right-edge-2 work? Yesterday I accidentally triggered the system image update in the N4 where I had built the right-edge-2 stuff
[15:47] <dandrader> rebuilding it all again might be a pain...
[15:47] <mzanetti> dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/right-edge-2/+merge/204798
[15:47] <mzanetti> dandrader: the description holds a link to a chinstrap folder
[15:48] <dandrader> mzanetti, great! thanks
[15:48] <mzanetti> yw
[16:43] <smb> I notice some weird behaviour related to dual-monitor boot on a netbook of mine. Is this something known? So when I boot with an external monitor connected performance is quite bad (i945GME), like using llvm-pipe and compiz draws a lot of cpu (20% even when doing nothing). Booting without external monitor and plugging it in later is performing as expected.
[17:11] <Saviq> tsdgeos, do you have a patch against 5.2 that we could push into our packages already?
[17:12] <tsdgeos> Saviq: for the unity thing sure
[17:12] <Saviq> tsdgeos, let's
[17:12] <tsdgeos> Saviq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7084035/
[17:12] <Saviq> Mirv, ↑
[17:12] <tsdgeos> the 5.3 version lives at https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,80893
[17:13] <tsdgeos> awaiting review, i'm not ultra sure if that one is correct since stuff changed in 5.3
[17:13] <tsdgeos> but the 5.2 one should be pretty correct
[17:13] <Saviq> tsdgeos, thanks
[17:25] <dandrader>  mzanetti. flashed a device, installed these packages, and now I get this when trying to run unity8: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7085841/
[17:26] <mzanetti> dandrader: hmm... something might have landed today and I haven't merged it yet
[17:27] <mhr3_> Saviq, btw this is what i see in -cleanup + click http://imgur.com/29cprfP
[17:27] <mhr3_> not sure if you were able to get it to run in the end or not
[17:28] <Saviq> mhr3_, can you paste some of the messages from console? the "undefined to int" seems most interesting
[17:28] <Saviq> mhr3_, and no, didn't, UDS took me over
[17:29] <mhr3_> here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/7085862/
[17:30] <Saviq> this is crazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRgFG90fmHI :D
[17:30] <mhr3_> whaaat
[17:30] <mhr3_> lol
[17:31] <Saviq> mhr3_, ok, nothing obvious, will look tomorrow morning
[17:31] <mhr3_> k, me out
[17:35] <mzanetti> dandrader: so design wanted to do the "autoCompleteGesture" in case the user did a one way gesture, but they did not want the speed to have any impact
[17:35] <mzanetti> do you think the EdgeDragEvaluator is any good for that?
[17:35] <mzanetti> tried to use it and struggling a bit making it to do exactly that
[17:37] <dandrader> mzanetti, nah, leave it out
[17:38] <Saviq> mzanetti, check out the youtube above ↑, you guys there around the Alps are crazy :P
[17:38] <Saviq> must be oxygen deprivation or something
[17:38] <mzanetti> Saviq: yeah, just seen it. hehe, yeah. I could imagine some of my school mates playing this :D
[17:38] <dandrader> mzanetti, although I do think it should follow the same autocomplete vs. rollback logic that the panel uses, for consistency
[17:39] <tsdgeos> Saviq: you around? have 5.0 installed somewhere?
[17:39] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yes
[17:39] <Saviq> tsdgeos, desktop or device?
[17:39] <tsdgeos> Saviq: desktop preferably
[17:39] <Saviq> tsdgeos, have both
[17:39] <tsdgeos> Saviq: ok, let me send you a tar
[17:41] <tsdgeos> Saviq: sent
[17:41] <mzanetti> dandrader: fair point... it is a bit different tho... while on the right edge you want to flick the app over the whole screen, that's not really what you want to do for the launcher as that's a "short" gesture
[17:41] <mzanetti> dandrader: I do agree with the general thing you're saying tho
[17:42] <Saviq> tsdgeos, no, does not crash
[17:42] <Saviq> <Unknown File>: SyntaxError: Unexpected end of input
[17:42] <tsdgeos> oh really?
[17:42] <tsdgeos> that's weird
[17:42] <tsdgeos> Saviq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7085942/ ?
[17:43] <mzanetti> dandrader: does this work for you? https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/right-edge-2/+merge/204798/comments/497008
[17:43] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yup
[17:43] <tsdgeos> Saviq: running over stackbrowser.qml, right?
[17:43] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yes
[17:43] <tsdgeos> ok
[17:43] <tsdgeos> something defintely broke then
[17:43] <tsdgeos> this crashes in 5.2 and 5.3
[17:44] <dandrader> mzanetti, yes
[17:44] <mzanetti> ok, cool
[17:44] <Saviq> ugh, jslint is not happy with that file
[17:45] <tsdgeos> Saviq: which of the 3?
[17:45] <Saviq> tsdgeos, the .js oen
[17:45] <Saviq> one
[17:45] <tsdgeos> Saviq: still shouldn't crash
[17:45] <Saviq> tsdgeos, well, it doesn't
[17:45] <tsdgeos> it does :D
[17:45] <Saviq> tsdgeos, on 5.0 I mean
[17:45] <Saviq> tsdgeos, srue
[17:47] <dandrader> Saviq, interesting video, btw
[17:47] <Saviq> dandrader, indeed :D
[17:48] <mzanetti> its unbelievable ho fast they can kick that ball, isn't it?
[18:05] <jetsaredim> anyone alive in here?
[18:05] <jetsaredim> trying to figure out how to get the notification area to only show up on one screen of a dual screen config
[18:05] <jetsaredim> s/screen/monitor
[18:24] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, no crash, and actually no error any more
[18:24] <Saviq> jetsaredim, best file a bug
[18:24] <tsdgeos> Saviq: simplified even more to http://paste.ubuntu.com/7086183/ + .js file
[18:25] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yup
[18:25] <tsdgeos> will bug simon tomorrow
[18:49] <dandrader> where does MathUtils come from?
[18:56] <Saviq> dandrader, it's ours I think
[18:56] <Saviq> dandrader, or UITK actually
[18:56] <Saviq> ./modules/Ubuntu/Components/mathUtils.js
[18:57] <dandrader> Saviq, right
[18:57] <dandrader> it's weirs that you have to "impot Ubuntu.Components" to get MathUtils...
[18:57] <dandrader> weird
[19:08] <dandrader> mzanetti, can't build your branch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7086394/
[19:09] <dandrader> mzanetti, unity-scopes-shell/activate-appid-2, I mean
[19:09] <mzanetti> dandrader: that was merged yesterday night
[19:09] <mzanetti> dandrader: so if you flashed today you might not need that one any more
[19:09] <Saviq> dandrader, that branch is in trunk already
[19:09] <dandrader> ah, good. will build trunk then
[20:26] <Saviq> dandrader, if it's in trunk, means it's in packages, so no need to build :)
[20:26] <dandrader> Saviq, I thought so too, but built it anyway just in case. :)
[20:28] <Saviq> dandrader, since CI train, everything that's below the changelog commit (like the top of https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-scopes-shell/trunk) is in the package, unless it got reverted, when the package version will have .is.the.actual.version.in.trunk
[21:03] <Cimi> Trevinho, ping
[21:08] <bschaefer> Cimi, Trevinho is on vacation for once :)
[21:08] <bschaefer> he'll be back on Monday
[21:08] <Cimi> bschaefer, he'll reply :P
[21:08] <bschaefer> Cimi, he will, hes bad at vacations haha
[21:10] <Cimi> bschaefer, I just wanted to propose a small fix, don't show LIM when resizing a window
[21:10] <Cimi> bschaefer, you can resize from topleft corner and see LIM appearing/disappearing, looks like a glitch
[21:11]  * bschaefer attempts
[21:11] <Cimi> same thing when moving
[21:11] <Cimi> like, LIM shouldn't change state when moving or resizing
[21:11] <bschaefer> Cimi, hmm my LIM seems fine when doing that
[21:11] <Cimi> bschaefer, move faster
[21:12] <bschaefer> Cimi, maybe hes fixed it in trunk unity...or compiz
[21:12] <bschaefer> Cimi, as everything seems to be staying in place and no glitching
[21:12] <Cimi> bschaefer, I haven't looked at the code, but I believe LIM is shown on entering mouse event
[21:12] <Cimi> and hidden on leaving
[21:13] <bschaefer> Cimi, oo there it is
[21:13] <Cimi> so if you move faster than the resize, and your mouse enters
[21:13] <bschaefer> Cimi, i was looking at the window buttons for some reason haha
[21:13] <Cimi> you show and hide
[21:13] <Cimi> ah ok :)
[21:13] <bschaefer> Cimi, should be a pretty easy fix when dragging
[21:13] <bschaefer> to hide
[21:13] <Cimi> I believe they're both easy fix
[21:20] <bschaefer> Cimi, sorry got kicked off the Internet, not sure if you saw what i said last... but ill get a bug up for Trevinho
[21:20] <bschaefer> and assigned to him :)
[21:27] <bschaefer> Cimi, if you want to pay attention to the bug :): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1292229