[00:00] <echoe> i wish i had that. was going to build my own and try for it. @.@
[00:00] <thecodeischaos> i have 75TB ram
[00:01] <thecodeischaos> and a dozen quantum processors
[00:01] <quibble_> minimec: this is the mouse I am using http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.online365days.com/webshaper/pcm/pictures/keyboardnMouse/Logitech/M100_usb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.online365days.com/webshaper/store/viewProd.asp?pkProductItem%3D194&h=256&w=350&sz=6&tbnid=OxA-YTdKoNeT7M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=123&zoom=1&usg=___iUcOtDa-6j7Run5DvmK1o7ioNc=&docid=Yn2A_8650dT87M&sa=X&ei=0DmpUZK3G---4AOv1YCgDA&ved=0CGQQ9QEwBw&dur=370
[00:01] <quibble_> minimec: there must be two m100's
[00:02] <SuperLag> echoe: This is a ThinkPad W530.
[00:02] <SuperLag> KiB Mem:  32580568 total, 14647420 used, 17933148 free,   521112 buffers
[00:03] <minimec> quibble_: I surprised that you have problems with that kind of mouse. I mean it's a standard USB mouse without additional buttons. I only used Logitech mouses my whole life. I never had such kind of 'double click' problem.
[00:06] <quibble_> minimec: I don't know. I've had linux for a few months now and this is the first time i've noticed an issue
[00:06] <quibble_> with mouses, that is *
[00:08] <minimec> quibble_: I am sorry, but I guess I cannot help you. I never had problems with a logitech mouse, even with addidtional buttons.
[00:08] <echoe> SuperLag, ahh. my laptop is a cheap a6. :P it does everything ok though. i would really only use 32G if i was spinning up a bunch of virtual environments
[00:10] <quibble_> minimec: that's okay, thank you :D
[00:11] <betrayd>  does that laptop have the eraser head trackpoint quibble?
[00:13] <boosali> hay guys, i am having tgrouble for some time now - i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and for a while now i am trying to upgrade, and i cant... i've looked everywhere, i tried the "do-realse-upgrade -d" thing: it says "No new version available" i changed to "prompt=normal"... and nothing
[00:13] <boosali> i've also reinstalled the update-manager...
[00:13] <boosali> i can do regular updates, but not the dist upgrade
[00:14] <boosali> can any1 try and help me out?
[00:15] <betrayd> boosali hows your current setup, 100% working?
[00:16] <betrayd> wifi video internet multimedia all ok?
[00:16] <boosali> טקד
[00:16] <boosali> yes
[00:17] <minimec> boosali: I don't know why 'do-release-upgrade -d' is not working for you. It works on my 12.04 desktop. But besides... You don't want to 12.10 ... ;) You might switch to a newer kernel in 12.04, but 12.10 is not worth an upgrade from 12.04.
[00:17] <boosali> amm, this is a desktop - net a server... i eventually would like to go to 13.04...
[00:18] <boosali> but if its to hard, how do i go to the new kernel?
[00:19] <epsilonorion> I have an issue when using apt-get to install a package.  I had to compile and build a dependency from source, however, when I try to install a package, it still tries to install the binaries from apt-get of the package I manually installed.  Have I done something wrong when building?  Is there a way to fix this?
[00:19] <Ben64> boosali: do you actually need a new kernel?
[00:20] <minimec> boosali: 13.04 would mean two upgrades, as you cannot upgrade 12.04 -> 13.04. The newer kernels are available in the software repositories. The 3.5... series is 12.10; the 3.8... ones are backports from 13.04
[00:20] <Ben64> epsilonorion: you don't need to compile anything to be able to apt-get something
[00:20] <boosali> thank you guys, i know i need to preform 2 upgrades, thats why i am trying to go to 12.10...
[00:21] <jayn> who has already installed the new IDE of android on Ubuntu please ?
[00:21] <Ben64> boosali: why upgrade every 6 months when you can upgrade every 2 years? :D
[00:21] <boosali> this is not an importante desktop, its meaning is to try and use the new non LTS ubuntu versions
[00:21] <minimec> boosali: My desktop for example is a 12.04 machine with the <IP_ADDRESS>-generic kernel backport ftom
[00:21] <boosali> so i am trying to do the update....
[00:21] <epsilonorion> Ben64, not quite the issue.  I am attempting to install something from apt-get.  It has a dependency on something else, but I needed to build that part from source.  When I try to apt-get install the first one, it is still trying to install the second one as a dependency.
[00:22] <epsilonorion> I dont want this
[00:22] <epsilonorion> as I have already built it manually and installed it
[00:22] <Ben64> epsilonorion: why would you need to build it if it's in apt-get
[00:22] <epsilonorion> its not, it just thinks it is
[00:22] <Ben64> what is it
[00:23] <jayn> Who has already installed the new IDE of android on Ubuntu please ?
[00:23] <minimec> boosali: O love 13.04, but my desktop (the working horse) will stay on 12.04. Stable, LTS... Ask your self that kind of questions. With 13.04 you have to update in abot 8 month from know again...
[00:23] <Ben64> jayn: not really relevant to ubuntu support
[00:23] <minimec> boosali: I love... ;)
[00:23] <thecodeischaos> jayn i have
[00:24] <epsilonorion> I am installing a ROS (Robot Operating Systems) application through apt-get on an ARM based version of Ubuntu.  When I try to install the ROS application it depends on libyaml-cpp-dev.  Well, since there isn't a binary for it on ARM, I had to build from source
[00:24] <epsilonorion> when I go to install the first part again, it attempts to install libyaml-cpp-dev, even though I already did
[00:24] <minimec> boosali: 12.04 with the 3.8 kernel backport is really cool with my i5 Ivy bridge generation computer.
[00:24] <Ben64> epsilonorion: sounds like something that isn't supported in this channel
[00:24] <enymaworks> Hello
[00:25] <boosali> minimec: yeah, i know i will have to update again, i dont mind... this is the purpose of this desktop.... can you help me do the upgrade as i should?
[00:25] <enymaworks> How do I setup a proxy with my irssi?
[00:25] <SuperLag> ecanto: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05312013-050621pm.php
[00:25] <epsilonorion> Ben64: which is why I didn't explain it that way.  My question is not related to ARMs and compiling.  It is how do I make sure Linux/Ubuntu does not attempt to find a package that I have manually installed from source
[00:25] <epsilonorion> other than this channel or a general linux channel, I am not sure where is best to ask
[00:26] <boosali> i have tried even running the "do-realse-update -d" with a "debug level = 1" envaermental variable, but it said "cant find "percise" in some list
[00:26] <ripplebit> constant beep after keyboard water damage, any ideeas?
[00:26] <minimec> boosali: NOt really. Run the according tool. Maybe disable some ppa, experimental GPU stuff...
[00:26] <Ben64> epsilonorion: might have to compile the whole thing, but we can't support ppas and stuff like that
[00:27] <boosali> i am running radeon 6950HD with Xinerama... can it be the problem?
[00:27] <boosali> i have 2 screens...
[00:27] <SuperLag> epsilonorion: lock the package in synaptic
[00:27] <Ben64> no... number of screens doesn't change upgrades
[00:27] <epsilonorion> SuperLag: how do I do that?  Sorry, never had to
[00:27] <boosali> maybe the Xinerama is somehow makes ot feel uncomfartable ;)?
[00:28] <boosali> it*
[00:29] <epsilonorion> SuperLag: I can look it up if it is easy or too complicated to explain in chat
[00:30] <SuperLag> epsilonorion: sorry. eating
[00:30] <epsilonorion> lol, no biggy
[00:30] <minimec> boosali: That may in fact be a problem..
[00:30] <boosali> let me try to disable it
[00:32] <ripplebit> anyone know how to stop constant beeping of laptop?
[00:33] <SuperLag> ripplebit: shoot iy?\\t?
[00:33] <SuperLag> bah
[00:33] <boosali> i think it needs a restart... I"ll brb
[00:33] <SuperLag> shoot it
[00:33] <ripplebit> tried that, no dice
[00:35] <ripplebit> anyone know how to stop constant beeping of laptop?
[00:35] <Ben64> turn it off
[00:36] <ripplebit> any helpful ideas?
[00:36] <Ben64> go to #hardware maybe?
[00:37] <cotton> does the BIOS/EFI say anything?
[00:37] <SuperLag> ripplebit: if you tried shooting it, and it still beeps... it's time to take it to an exorcist :)
[00:37] <TempusFugit32> check to see if any keys are stuck?
[00:37] <SuperLag> ripplebit: either that, or you're a REALLY bad shot :D
[00:38] <ripplebit> i cant access bios
[00:38] <ripplebit> tried #hardware
[00:38] <SuperLag> why not?
[00:38] <Ben64> well its a hardware problem, not an ubuntu problem
[00:38] <Ben64> be patient
[00:39] <ripplebit> keyboards broken
[00:39] <ripplebit> i want to turn off beeping
[00:39] <SuperLag> what do you mean the keyboard is broken?
[00:39] <ripplebit> water dmg
[00:39] <Campfire> whats a good channal  here with a lil less tech stuff
[00:39] <betrayd> ne key is shorted
[00:40] <SuperLag> then it is probably affecting other things too... get your hardware fixed, amigo
[00:40] <ripplebit> but i want to stop the beeping noise
[00:40] <SuperLag> Campfire: what did you want to talk about, your cat? :)
[00:40] <Ben64> #hardware --- stop asking here
[00:40] <Campfire> yeah something like that
[00:41] <Ben64> !alis | Campfire
[00:41] <Campfire> or cat cmd
[00:41] <Campfire> ty
[00:41] <betrayd> ripplebit plug  in a headphone
[00:41] <betrayd> then an extra keyboard
[00:41] <ripplebit> i tried, still makes noise
[00:42] <betrayd> which one
[00:42] <ripplebit> head
[00:42] <Ben64> betrayd: if you want to help ripplebit, great. just do it in a different channel
[00:43] <ripplebit> and dont have keyboard
[00:43] <Campfire> whats the prob with ripplebit thingey
[00:43] <betrayd> thats it
[00:43] <Campfire> so using on screen keybourd
[00:44] <ripplebit> i am, but i want to stop the beeping
[00:44] <Campfire> well if no keybourd wonder what he using speak to text or something
[00:44] <ripplebit> vkey
[00:44] <ripplebit> onscreen
[00:44] <Ben64> come on guys, this is for ubuntu support only. take it elsewhere. #hardware is perfect for this
[00:44] <Campfire> oh nice i used that
[00:45] <boosali> hay guys, I am back, I"ve disabled Xinerama and disconnected 1 screen, ubuntu knows i have onyl 1 screen now... still no upgrades are availabel
[00:45] <Ben64> boosali: i told you it wouldn't change anything
[00:45] <boosali> yeah, but i had to try...
[00:45] <ripplebit> thanks for the help anyway
[00:46] <boosali> i am getting out of options here...
[00:46] <Campfire> hey bit what are you trying to do again
[00:46] <betrayd> got ati xinerama working on buntu? I would not touch it
[00:46] <boosali> lol...
[00:46] <Ben64> boosali: what does "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" say?
[00:46] <boosali> No new release found
[00:47] <boosali> and i have changed the promts=normal thingi
[00:48] <Ben64> boosali: try this? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/06/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-from-ubuntu-12-04/
[00:49] <boosali> i saw that, tried it earlier and now again... didnt help :(
[00:49] <boosali> its allready "for any new version"
[00:50] <Ben64> did  you hit the check button
[00:51] <boosali> yap
[00:53] <terretz> I'm having an odd issue.  When I start my machine, I get an error that "/media can't mount" under the xubuntu logo.  My fstab is set to mound /dev/sdb1 to /media.  When I type 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1' - sdb1 mounts to /media with no issue
[00:53] <terretz> it just won't mount on start up
[00:54] <terretz> my fstab is in pastebin: v
[00:54] <terretz> erg.
[00:54] <terretz> my fstab is in pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721566/
[00:55] <Ben64> you need to have it in a directory inside of media
[00:55] <terretz> so, /dev/sdb1 needs to mount to /media/foo ?
[00:56] <Ben64> terretz: yep
[00:56] <terretz> alright - I'll give it a shot
[00:56] <tgm4883> terretz, also, you should mount by UUID and not device path, but that isn't the issue you are having (Ben64 is right)
[00:57] <boosali> guys?
[00:57] <Ben64> i always specify my own UUIDs, it's more leet. UUID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000064 /mnt/tree       ext4    defaults 0 2
[00:58] <driftking> hello
[00:58] <driftking> anybody here?
[00:59] <tgm4883> !ask | driftking
[00:59] <terretz> ack - how do I force fstab to run without rebooting?
[00:59] <Ben64> terretz: sudo mount -a
[00:59] <tgm4883> terretz, 'sudo mount -a'
[00:59] <terretz> thank you!
[00:59] <boosali> gyus ,how do i st up the env variable to debug = 1 for the do-realse-upgrade?
[00:59] <terretz> ok - it ran successfully!
[01:00] <driftking> i just installed Ubuntu on a Compaq Evo N610c Laptop and my GUI is not loading and this is the first time i tried it on?
[01:00] <rypervenche> What's the IRC command in most clients to output a console command? It's /something -o
[01:02] <driftking> My Ubuntu GUI is not loading! Anyone knows how i can fix this?
[01:02] <tgm4883> !patience | driftking
[01:02] <grkblood> Something happened with my video drivers and nwo whenever I try to play a video in vlc the video crashes but the audio continues to play. In "Additional Drivers" is says I'm using ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX drivers but the output of fglrxinfo is giving me: X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[01:03] <driftking> does that mean that im going to have to wait or am i not going to get an answer cos no one knows?
[01:04] <mkennedy> i had that problem when i first installed try running sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade then reboot
[01:05] <Guest3135> does anyone here know anything about PHP or webapps?
[01:06] <terretz> Ben64, tgm4883 Thank you!   As long as there is a thermal sensor on the chip, you should be able to use lm-sensors
[01:14] <IdleOne> boosali: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ enter the text you want to pastebin into the box, click paste, tell the person helping you the URL
[01:14] <Guest3135> Thanks Terretz
[01:14] <boosali> yes
[01:14] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: Then a sudo sensors-detect should work
[01:14] <boosali> ahh...
[01:14] <phillyj> the_eye_: did you install sensors?
[01:14] <boosali> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721606/
[01:15] <phillyj> the_eye_: install lm-sensors and then configure with sensors-detect command
[01:15] <boosali> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721606/
[01:15] <the_eye_> Tylerjd, Yes I have sensors. No data about GPU.
[01:16] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: Hmm, odd. I'm sorry but I don't know what to tell you then. Are you sure that GPU has a temp sensor on board?
[01:16] <tgm4883> boob00, can you pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades'
[01:16] <tgm4883> bah
[01:16] <tgm4883> boosali, can you pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades'
[01:16] <terretz> Guest3135, like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/281482/why-are-youtube-videos-not-playing-properly-on-chrome
[01:16] <the_eye_> Also no data in acpi -iV
[01:16] <tgm4883> Guest3135, you could check via 'http://youtube.com/html5
[01:17] <boosali> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721613/
[01:17] <the_eye_> Tylerjd,  No I not sure if there is any sensor. I just trying to read if there is anything. Any workaround ?
[01:18] <ncmxcxx> what is the most common programming language used in ubuntu?
[01:19] <ncmxcxx> or on linux?
[01:19] <tgm4883> boosali, not sure. It looks like it should be working
[01:19] <tgm4883> ncmxcxx, python maybe?
[01:19] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: I don't have one of those chips in front of me, so I am not positive, though it /may/ not have a thermal sensor on board just because it is such a low power chip. Don't quote me on that - the best I would say is just to monitor the CPU usage
[01:19] <boosali> tgm4883: i know, thats y i am here
[01:19] <ncmxcxx> what language would I have to learn that would allow me to write basic apps for most linux distros?
[01:19] <Tylerjd> ncmxcxx: Ubuntu, many of the automated stuff is in Perl
[01:20] <ncmxcxx> is perl a complete language?
[01:20] <tgm4883> I write all my apps in python
[01:20] <Tylerjd> What do you mean by complete?
[01:20] <ncmxcxx> will your apps run on windows?
[01:20] <the_eye_> Tylerjd, ok thanks
[01:20] <ncmxcxx> does python allow me to make decentt guis?
[01:20] <tgm4883> ncmxcxx, yes, my apps run on windows
[01:20] <boosali> any1 had any ideas?... :(
[01:21] <Tylerjd> the_eye_: I mean the CPU temp, not usage, now that I just re-read that
[01:21] <ncmxcxx> tgm are they self installing or do they need to download additional stuff?
[01:21] <tgm4883> boosali, maybe try with sudo rather than being logged in as root?
[01:21] <boosali> tgm4883: tried that too
[01:21] <tgm4883> ncmxcxx, you'd need to have python installed on windows
[01:21] <ncmxcxx> so when distributing the app you would have tell the person to install python?
[01:22] <tgm4883> ncmxcxx, IDK, you'd have to look at the distribution licensing for python. I imagine you could build an installer that installed python if it wasn't already installed
[01:22] <erasmus> Can I tell apt-get to not install the packages but instead just download them to a specified location?
[01:22] <the_eye_> Tylerjd, Yes its seems right. Most of intel GPU are included in CPU.
[01:23] <tgm4883> boosali, where do you live?
[01:23] <boosali> israel
[01:24] <boosali> tgm4883: check this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721620/  with the "export DEBUG_UPDATE_MANAGER=1" thingi
[01:24] <boosali> so i get there a timeout...
[01:24] <tgm4883> boosali, I'm running out of ideas. Is that machine fully up to date? (eg. 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade')
[01:24] <boosali> but on regular updates it works fine
[01:24] <boosali> yes, machine is fully updated
[01:25] <Rarrikins> Is there an easy way to get add-apt-repository to add for distribution precise instead of raring?
[01:25] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: no, and that is a bad idea. You shouldn't mix versions in your repos
[01:26] <Rarrikins> IdleOne: Some packages don't have raring versions.
[01:26] <tgm4883> boosali, seems like a networking issue then
[01:26] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: which packages?
[01:26] <Rarrikins> IdleOne: One is natecarlson's maven3
[01:26] <boosali> tgm4883: regular updates work fine... and if i try wget on these link there, they all work
[01:27] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: I don't recommend this but you can add repos to /etc/apt/sources.list manually.
[01:27] <boosali> maybe there is some proxy or dns config its looking for?
[01:27] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: check the PPA and it will give you the full URL to add
[01:27] <Rarrikins> IdleOne: OK, thanks.
[01:28] <IdleOne> Rarrikins: You should also file a bug against that package and request they add a raring version to the PPA
[01:29] <boosali> well, guys, i have to go now, I"ll try bothering you again  later :)
[01:29] <tgm4883> boosali, well it should look like this   http://pastebin.com/3DKtYEci
[01:29] <tgm4883> boosali, you could try blowing away the cache file
[01:29] <tgm4883> but IDK
[01:30] <regorianer> well, i am too stupid to set up supervisor (daemontools) ... i installed daemontools and daemontools-run and put a testscript with a simple loop and echo to /dev/null as the run script in /etc/service/run. after running sudo svscanboot i get the processes supvervices (thats what i guess)
[01:30] <regorianer> root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# pgrep -lf super
[01:30] <regorianer> 1583 supervise testSupervise
[01:30] <regorianer> 1587 supervise supervise
[01:30] <regorianer> 1750 supervise
[01:30] <FloodBot1> regorianer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:30] <regorianer> but i cannot stop with svc -d
[01:30] <tgm4883> IdleOne, Rarrikins you can use apt-add-repository to add full repo line rather than the short LP version eg. "apt-add-repository 'deb http://myserver/path/to/repo stable myrepo'"
[01:31] <tgm4883> Rarrikins, you'd still need to get the proper line from the ppa page though
[01:31] <regorianer> but i cannot stop with svc -d
[01:31] <IdleOne> tgm4883: did not know that, thanks.
[01:31] <boosali> tgm4883: deleting the file should help?
[01:31] <tgm4883> IdleOne, yw
[01:31] <tgm4883> boosali, shouldn't hurt it seems
[01:31] <tgm4883> regorianer, a supervisor? what does that do?
[01:32] <boosali> tgm4883 ok, now there is new msg - we are getting somewhere :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721638/
[01:33] <regorianer> tgm4883: monitoring if my process is running, if not it restarts the process
[01:33] <tgm4883> regorianer, ah, I'd just use upstart for that
[01:33] <regorianer> well i have upstart installed too
[01:33] <regorianer> how do you do that with upstart ?
[01:33] <boosali> no more timeout, but it cant find the local version or something
[01:34] <regorianer> all i read is that daemontools is easy to use ... but i have my problems ...
[01:34] <tgm4883> regorianer, I've got a basic upstart job I could show you, sec
[01:34] <dr_willis> daemontools? isent that a windows iso-mounting software?
[01:35] <regorianer> that would be great, i am a little bit ... lemme say ... overheaded with what i am doing, worked long time only with angstrom and now trying to port some packages to debian
[01:36] <tgm4883> regorianer, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5721646/
[01:38] <tgm4883> boosali, did the cache file come back at "~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release"
[01:39] <regorianer> tgm4883: what it telling your server to restart after a crash ?
[01:39] <regorianer> or better said ... who is watching ?
[01:39] <tgm4883> regorianer, I'm assuming you mean what if the service crashes (not the server), upstart is watching
[01:40] <regorianer> sure, service, sorry
[01:41] <tgm4883> regorianer, that is what lines 7 and 8 do. It sets it to respawn on crash. Line 8 specifies how many times it's allowed to restart it in a certain time span (no need to keep restarting a service if it just dies immediately)
[01:42] <regorianer> true, and how you start this service on boot then ?
[01:42] <regorianer> and how u stop it ?
[01:42] <regorianer> need these for the preinst and postinst script for the package
[01:43] <tgm4883> regorianer, that would be the 'start on' and 'stop on' lines
[01:43] <tgm4883> regorianer, so that one is starting when the local filesystems and also eth0 are both up
[01:43] <regorianer> ok, i will try
[01:44] <regorianer> ok means that upstart is already started
[01:44] <tgm4883> regorianer, upstart is what ubuntu uses to bring up all the services
[01:45] <seronis> im currently trying to use the 'convert' command from the console to change a PDF to a PNG image.  The pdf is crystal clear but the fonts are highly blurred in the resulting PNG image and some fine lines are just missing
[01:45] <tgm4883> regorianer, it's a core part of ubuntu
[01:45] <seronis> can anyone give help with fixing the quality ?
[01:47] <regorianer> yeah i just read it, sorry have to inform me better first before asking such questions ;)
[01:49] <joseluis8906> hi
[01:53] <darkangel> hey guys i need some help and havin problems
[01:54] <darkangel> any 1 here? :)
[01:54] <seronis> !ask | darkangel
[01:55] <|1li> that's the way it goes in IRC usually
[01:55] <|1li> not like runescape
[01:55] <darkangel> oooookkk?
[01:56] <darkangel> u see my screen or something?
[01:57] <darkangel> well any ways im havin log out problems ever since i updated to <IP_ADDRESS> or something like that i been havin like alot of issues with my computer and nocking me off into like alot of codes area
[01:58] <savid> How do I run a command with paramters under gksudo?
[01:58] <seronis> gksudo gedit path/to/file.ext
[02:00] <savid> seronis, it doesn't work with flag args, such as "-n"
[02:00] <savid> gksudo start-stop-daemon -n foo
[02:01] <savid> it fails with:  invalid option "n"
[02:03] <zykotick9> savid: for starters, i wouldn't try using gksudo for non-gui apps...  that's what sudo is for!
[02:04] <savid> zykotick9, yeah I wouldn't be using gksudo if I didn't need it for a reason :-P
[02:04] <savid> obviously I know about sudo
[02:04] <deckard> hello, which server is best for foot talk?
[02:04] <tgm4883> !OT | deckard
[02:04] <deckard> oh okay, yes i see
[02:07] <tgm4883> savid, have you tried "gksudo 'start-stop-daemon -n foo'"
[02:07] <seronis> savid: sorry tested a few programs with gksudo and they all accepted arguments
[02:07] <savid> tgm4883, yeah that doesn't work.  I just figured it out though.  it's:   gksudo -- start-stop-daemon -n foo
[02:08] <savid> seronis, I think the problem is with "-" args
[02:08] <savid> at any rate, there's a workaround.
[02:08] <James_Epp> Has anyone here had success establishing audio/video with a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150?
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> I have a question, lets say I get a repo from git, I ./autogen.sh then make but don't make install. Is the program installed or should I run make uninstall ?
[02:09] <TempusFugit32> hey all
[02:09] <tgm4883> James_Epp, yes
[02:09] <James_Epp> tgm4883: What steps did you take?
[02:10] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I installed suing that line: http://tv-viewer.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Howto#K.2FX.2FUbuntu_and_other_debian_based_systems     and then I installed tv-viewer (latest)
[02:10] <tgm4883> James_Epp, it should pretty much work out of the box
[02:10] <TempusFugit32> anyone have a clue why cairo dock is making a phantom type chrome window I cant close?
[02:10] <betrayd> Ari-Yang if the make was successful all the good pieces will be in that src directory
[02:10] <James_Epp> tgm4883: ubuntu 12.04.2 amd64 BTW
[02:10] <zykotick9> TempusFugit32: do you have 3d support in xorg?
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> betrayd *nod* but lets say I want to make again, should I run make uninstall ?
[02:11] <TempusFugit32> yes It just started doing it today i added a few applets and now I have a new window I cant close
[02:11] <tgm4883> James_Epp, I've never used tv-viewer, does it let you specify which card to use?
[02:11] <betrayd> Ari-Yang some have make clean mentioned in teh README
[02:11] <Ari-Yang> I don't recall make clean being there... I'll check
[02:12] <TempusFugit32> zykotick9: want me to post a pastebin?
[02:12] <James_Epp> tgm4883: no, here is one of the preference tabs: http://i.imgur.com/1EPGvee.png
[02:12] <betrayd> Ari-Yang make uninstall would be it then, if no 'make clean' is  found
[02:12] <zykotick9> TempusFugit32: no, i have no idea.  but i know cairo needs 3d to display correctly.
[02:13] <James_Epp> tgm4883: What program did you use? Movie Player? VLC?
[02:13] <TempusFugit32> zykotick9: ok ty
[02:13] <tgm4883> James_Epp, ok, assuming that the card is tuned to a proper channel, do 'cat /dev/video0 > ~/test.mpg', let that run for 30 seconds, then do ctrl+c and see if you can play back the file
[02:13] <tgm4883> James_Epp, mythtv, I haven't used my pvr-150 in a few years though
[02:13] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, yeah, make uninstall it is, reason I'm doing this is because I got 1 error...
[02:14] <clcto> zykotick9: cairo is composition, which means it neads 3d to be able to display windows with transparency and such
[02:14] <betrayd> Ari-Yang ok
[02:15] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I got static. How would I set up mythtv?
[02:15] <jibcage> Hello! Is anybody here familiar with the DNS tunneling program iodine?
[02:15] <tgm4883> James_Epp, so it sounds like it's working, just not tuned to a specific channel
[02:15] <zykotick9> clcto: thanks - i know.
[02:16] <tgm4883> James_Epp, can you do something like  "ivtv-tune -c25" (25 is channel number)
[02:17] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Output: sudo aptitude install tcl8.5 tk8.5 ivtv-utils libtk-img xdg-utils
[02:17] <James_Epp> oops :S
[02:17] <Guest3135> Terretz thank you for the link, however, I don't have the  pepperflash plugin /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so at all, just the /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[02:17] <clcto> zykotick9: sorry i just joined i thought that was a question
[02:17] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Output: /dev/video0: 229.250 MHz
[02:18] <tgm4883> James_Epp, ok, can you try the cat command again and see if you get video now?
[02:18] <Guest3135> Also sorry for the long time in between  responses
[02:18] <zykotick9> clcto: all good :)
[02:19] <James_Epp> tgm4883: For a little bit of context, I am grabbing gamecube footage.
[02:19] <tgm4883> James_Epp, oh. Are you using the coax in then or something like svideo?
[02:19] <James_Epp> Composite.
[02:20] <tgm4883> ah ok, that is something different. Sec
[02:20] <tgm4883> James_Epp, do 'v4l2-ctl -i 2'
[02:21] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Video input set to 2 (Composite 1: ok)
[02:21] <tgm4883> James_Epp, that should switch it to composite, then do the cat command and see if it works
[02:21] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I got some audio and video, but I do not believe the channel is correct. I am getting a lot of lines :P
[02:22] <James_Epp> But hey-- thanks for the help thus far!
[02:22] <tgm4883> James_Epp, you're doing composite, there is no channel
[02:22] <James_Epp> tgm4883: My bad. Well, now that this is working, how would I go about watching it?
[02:23] <tgm4883> James_Epp, try tv-viewer again
[02:23] <tgm4883> James_Epp, there is an option in that screenshot to select composite I think
[02:23] <tgm4883> James_Epp, "video input", that should set to composite
[02:24] <James_Epp> tgm4883: There is Tuner, S-Video 1, Composite 1, S-Video 2, and Composite 2
[02:24] <tgm4883> James_Epp, composite 1
[02:25] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I am in Canada. What should I use for frequency table? I have the following: (us-bcast, us-cable, us-cable-hrc, us-cable-irc)
[02:26] <tgm4883> James_Epp, that shouldn't matter as you aren't scanning for channels
[02:26] <tgm4883> James_Epp, composite shouldn't need that
[02:26] <ugly_duck> ok, not really a ubuntu issue at all, playing an online game and having issue, when i ping the server PING bp-fb-vip.sjc2.kixeye.com i get a response time of time=146 ms, is this high for a playing an online game, thoughts?
[02:26] <tgm4883> ugly_duck, for a FPS, yes
[02:27] <ugly_duck> nah, its a battle pirates, flash game
[02:27] <tgm4883> ugly_duck, then I don't see why your ping should matter
[02:27] <TempusFugit32> ok its been quite awhile since i posted on imagebin anyone offer a refresh?
[02:27] <James_Epp> tgm4883: These settings with no input. http://goo.gl/zmOcV
[02:27] <tgm4883> TempusFugit32, uh, upload and paste link?
[02:28] <tgm4883> James_Epp, huh?
[02:28] <ugly_duck> tgm4883: well, my game crashed and i've asked them for credits, had to run traceroute etc and post it to them, they said my ping rate was too high and contact my isp to resolve the issue..
[02:28] <tgm4883> ugly_duck, hmm, weird
[02:28] <sharpie> Still can't get session manager to start gui.
[02:28] <TempusFugit32> tgm4883:  do i need to register or sign in?
[02:28] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I am getting nothing through the video with those settings.
[02:28] <tgm4883> James_Epp, did you set the input to composite 1?
[02:28] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I did.....it must have switched back automatically
[02:29] <tgm4883> TempusFugit32, you need to put in a nick and accept the terms I think
[02:29] <tgm4883> James_Epp, odd
[02:29] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Actually, operator error. Tee-hee. No input with both composite 1 and 2
[02:30] <tgm4883> James_Epp, but it works when we do it from the command line?
[02:30] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Exactly.
[02:30] <tgm4883> James_Epp, sounds like an issue with the program
[02:31] <James_Epp> tgm4883: I'll brb. MythTV wants me to log out to apply some stuff.
[02:31] <lastprophet> hi
[02:32] <tgm4883> James_Epp, are you planning on trying to play a game on your gamecube through the pvr-150?
[02:32] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Yes, that is the goal.
[02:32] <tgm4883> James_Epp, you'll get a 4 second delay with mythtv
[02:32] <James_Epp> ouch.....
[02:33] <tgm4883> James_Epp, I'd try VLC
[02:33] <James_Epp> tgm4883: idk what options to use. I had this working on windows xp with a program called 'dscaler' (dinterlace.sf.net)\
[02:34] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Correct: deinterlace.sf.net
[02:34] <TempusFugit32> http://imagebin.org/259771 ok so here is my dilemma with cairo, maybe the chrome applet somehow is opening a browser on boot. had to kill the cairo pid from term to get rid of it, looked through settings of cairo and applets and cant find anything to change or fix any ideas?
[02:35] <tgm4883> James_Epp, I'd try VLC, only because it plays back everything I've thrown at it, it's cross platform, and it have support for capture cards
[02:35] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Using these options, the program crashes right away. http://imgur.com/fss7rc3
[02:36] <tgm4883> James_Epp, run vlc from the command line so we can see why it crashes, also, what are the options under capture type
[02:36] <tgm4883> James_Epp, err, capture mode
[02:38] <TempusFugit32> http://imagebin.org/259771 ok so here is my dilemma with cairo, maybe the chrome applet somehow is opening a browser on boot. had to kill the cairo pid from term to get rid of it, looked through settings of cairo and applets and cant find anything to change or fix any ideas?
[02:39] <James_Epp> Video for Linux 2, PVR,  TV (digital) and Desktop. This is what PVR shows: http://imgur.com/TaWJ3R0. I am not familiar with VLC from command line. vlc  vcd:///dev/video0 did nothing helpful.
[02:40] <tgm4883> James_Epp, just run 'vlc' from the command line, then it will start as normal but provide a log in the terminal. Then select PVR and put /dev/video0 for the device
[02:40] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:40] <tgm4883> :(
[02:41] <James_Epp> tgm4883: SoL?
[02:41] <tgm4883> James_Epp, sec
[02:41] <TempusFugit32> :)
[02:42] <tgm4883> James_Epp, how about this from a terminal   'vlc -vvv v4l2:///dev/video0:input=2'
[02:43] <TempusFugit32> anyone help me change the color of my font on a downloaded theme?
[02:43] <TempusFugit32> the font is white on a light blue background and very hard to see
[02:45] <James_Epp> tgm4883: It goes past my terminal limit. ('Your command' >> file.txt does not work) http://pastebin.com/Uy2UwMbg
[02:47] <b3n> hi
[02:48] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[02:48] <tgm4883> James_Epp, not sure then. You could similarily try with totem. We know the card works, just have to find something to play it back in
[02:48] <Heisenberg> how to stop mode unity for install driver for video?
[02:49] <James_Epp> tgm4883: totem? Is that not the built-in movie player?
[02:49] <tgm4883> Heisenberg, 'sudo service lightdm stop'
[02:49] <tgm4883> James_Epp, yes it is
[02:50] <James_Epp> tgm4883: How do I open /dev/video0 in that then?
[02:51] <tgm4883> James_Epp, try "open location"
[02:51] <Heisenberg> tgm4883: thanks man
[02:52] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Location not found.
[02:52] <tgm4883> :(
[02:52] <sharpie> What would stop lightdm from starting gui?
[02:52] <sharpie> was working fine until update
[02:52] <tgm4883> sharpie, check logs
[02:53] <sharpie> been looking at logs all day
[02:54] <sharpie> is there a way to run a debug command on it?
[02:54] <sharpie> cat dbus.log
[02:54] <sharpie> Unknown username "dnsmasq" in message bus configuration file
[02:55] <razzledazzle> anyone have the astyle plugin for geany on ubuntu?
[02:56] <seronis> Q: im using the 'convert' command on the console to get a PNG image generated from a pdf file. The pdf is crystal clear if I open it directly but the converted png has unreadable text and is missing details
[02:56] <Ari-Yang> how do I set a new terminal as default?
[02:56] <seronis> anyone familiar with getting that command to produce higher quality ?
[02:58] <James_Epp> tgm4883: Hopefully board.4chan.org/g/ will be my shining knight <3
[02:58] <seronis> Ari-Yang: in xubuntu in the Settings panel there is a 'preferred applications' option.  not sure if Unity is set up similarly or not
[02:58] <sharpie> Still i've been getting a black screen with mouse after login
[02:58] <TempusFugit32> ok so can anyone tell me how to change a system font color?
[03:00] <matttt> I'm struggling to make my GRUB menu legible.  I'm running from a live CD right now.  What do I do?
[03:00] <sharpie> grub 2 is easier to view
[03:00] <Jordan_U> matttt: In what way is it not legible?
[03:01] <matttt> Jordan_U: only the upper 1/3 of the screen has anything on it.  And it's like each horizontal line of pixels is sliced up and displayed at random
[03:02] <matttt> sharpie: is grub1 the default grub installed with 12.04?
[03:02] <Jordan_U> matttt: Try GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console in /etc/default/grub.
[03:04] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[03:05] <sharpie> matttt: Grub 3 or the second version of grub.  Arch linux uses the previous version.  I use arch for grub when I have 6 or more OS's on a laptop
[03:05] <matttt> Jordan_U: k, I'm gonna follow this to make the change: howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd#.UalkvpEgjCI
[03:05] <Ari-Yang> can someone help me, for some reason I don't have sound from anywhere at all
[03:05] <Ari-Yang> not in movie players, or online stuff like youtube
[03:06] <sharpie> pulseaudio and or alsa for sound
[03:06] <sharpie> My sound is gone too
[03:06] <goddard> is there a way i can make my computer use the onboard video card
[03:06] <Ari-Yang> I see pulseaudio in the processes under system monitor
[03:06] <sharpie> On-Board vid card is setup within the bios options not the OS
[03:07] <Ari-Yang> I'm on ubuntu 12.10, this is all sudden... unless some dep packages I installed somehow screwed up the sound
[03:07] <Ari-Yang> wait it's back...
[03:07] <sharpie> I fixed sound by removing and reinstalling per a forum I read
[03:08] <matttt> Jordan_U: GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console or GRUB_TERMINAL=console?
[03:08] <sharpie> maybe dpkg-reconfigure
[03:08] <goddard> sharpie: so i can make my onboard default in the bios if i needed to?
[03:08] <sharpie> goddard: The bios is where the OS gets hardware information from.
[03:09] <Jordan_U> matttt: Either will work.
[03:09] <sharpie> goddard: Option could read as which one to use first in bios
[03:10] <matttt> Jordan_U: okay, heregoes; thanks
[03:10] <sharpie> goddard: On older motherboards it's controlled by jumpers on the board
[03:10] <sharpie> goddard: read the motherboard manual for clues
[03:12] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[03:13] <sharpie> Hope this link works http://pastebin.com/26vLxxCg     /var/log/gdm/greeter.log
[03:14] <soy_el_pulpo> !stats
[03:14] <soy_el_pulpo> !bot
[03:14] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[03:15] <sharpie> In the applications options?  Which app?
[03:15] <sharpie> If your using Unity GUI.  File Edit Veiw is on the top bar when your using an app
[03:16] <sharpie> Hidden
[03:16] <mattttt> Jordan_U: Thank you!! That's been driving me nuts for days
[03:16] <sharpie> xfce4 is good. Have to install gnome-icons to make it look normal
[03:17] <sharpie> I still can't login to XFCE4 or others using lightdm, gdm and mdm.
[03:18] <sharpie> Driving me to drink, can't find what the update broke.
[03:20] <Vivekananda> Hi everyone. For lubuntu how do I do normal network things like 1.Find out computers in my lan especially a mac computer 2. See my lan and other computers in it 3. Connect to the mac computer and exchange files.    All these for Lubuntu
[03:21] <sharpie>  tcpdump? wireshark?
[03:21] <sharpie> nc
[03:22] <Vivekananda> sharpie: that for me ?
[03:22] <sharpie> yeah
[03:22] <sharpie> tcpdump can watch traffic
[03:22] <sharpie> so can wireshark with gui
[03:23] <sharpie> Not sure if samba can be used to share files with a Mac
[03:23] <sharpie> Might use the filemanager to search for shares and networks
[03:24] <sharpie> Nautilus  Go/Network
[03:24] <terretz_> you can use SMB
[03:24] <sharpie> samba is for windows
[03:24] <terretz_> it's what I use with my ubuntu/macs
[03:24] <terretz_> yeah but Mac OS supports SMB
[03:24] <sharpie> smb and samba is the same
[03:25] <terretz_> correct
[03:25] <sharpie> works with nmbd too
[03:26] <sharpie> Mac is basically a Unix OS.  Maybe if you had root access you can use ssh or sshfs
[03:26] <sharpie> scp as well
[03:26] <sharpie> Maybe even NFS
[03:28] <terretz_> oh damnit
[03:28] <terretz_> I forgot that I borked my SMB server earlier
[03:28] <terretz_> true story.
[03:28] <sharpie> Always save a backup of the original config file
[03:29] <terretz_> yeah - I changed the name of the share point
[03:29] <terretz_> and forgot to update my conf file
[03:29] <sharpie> cp smb.conf smb.backup
[03:29] <terretz_> glad no one saw that
[03:29] <soy_el_pulpo> sharpie: smb is an option on macs
[03:29] <refurb_NC_CM720> hi
[03:29] <terretz_> heck yeah man
[03:30] <terretz_> I do that before I edit any file
[03:30] <terretz_> good habits
[03:30] <soy_el_pulpo> true
[03:30] <refurb_NC_CM720> is there any way to get noaa weather alerts on a linux computer?
[03:30] <sharpie> I'm not a Mac person. It's always been to proprietary for me.
[03:30] <Jordan_U> mattttt: You're welcome :)
[03:31] <soy_el_pulpo> sharpie: they are more open than you can imagine
[03:31] <sharpie> Mac is Unix.  I can use Unix all day long
[03:32] <sharpie> But not a mouse with one button
[03:32] <soy_el_pulpo> I heard of people installing ubuntu on Macs...
[03:32] <refurb_NC_CM720> it would be really awesome to give my desktop the functionality of noaa weather radio
[03:33] <soy_el_pulpo> it was really cool, but today the have no buttons at all.. they are touch sensitive
[03:33] <terretz_> I have 3 macs
[03:34] <terretz_> and 0 mice with 1 button
[03:34] <sharpie> I'll miss Ubuntu 10.10 when you could put things on the task bar
[03:34] <terretz_> all my mouses have many buttons
[03:34] <terretz_> and scroll wheels
[03:34] <Guest3135> Terretz Thank you for that link earlier I don't know if you saw me say that
[03:34] <soy_el_pulpo> I found one in a drawer today... the orifinal apple desktop mouse
[03:34] <terretz_> Guest3135: did that work?
[03:35] <sharpie> Still can't use this new install for anything until I figure what the Update broke.
[03:35] <Guest3135> Nope I don't have that in my pluins
[03:35] <terretz_> hm
[03:35] <terretz_> annoying
[03:35] <terretz_> did you figure out the problem or is it still happening?
[03:36] <Guest3135> still happening to my knowledge it only happens every 3rd or 4th youtube I watch
[03:36] <soy_el_pulpo> but getting back, macs can do SMB, AFP, NFS, FTP, RFB, HTTP, SSH... you name it they integrate well with ubuntu and other environments
[03:36] <Guest3135> its one of those annoying problems that only  happening sporadically
[03:36] <lujuan> ...
[03:36] <Guest3135> happens*
[03:37] <terretz_> so - are these continuous videos or are you leaving youtube and going back?
[03:37] <terretz_> I'm assuming the former
[03:38] <Guest3135> I do have adobe flash but not the pepperflash the link talks about
[03:38] <Guest3135> I can watch them and hear them but every 3rd or 4th one its black and you can hear it still but the video is copmpletely black
[03:38] <sharpie> Might be the advertisement is broken
[03:39] <Guest3135> after refreshing once or twice the video works again
[03:39] <terretz_> have you tried a different browser?
[03:39] <Guest3135> lets try hold on
[03:41] <Guest3135> ya know, Firefox looks like its working, soo far that is
[03:42] <terretz_> that's what I'm reading
[03:42] <Guest3135> I'll see if uninstalling and restalling Chrome fixes it
[03:42] <terretz_> seems to be centralized around chrome
[03:42] <sharpie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967794&page=2  Maybe this is what is causing my problem
[03:42] <terretz_> humor me for a sec
[03:42] <terretz_> see if pepperflash is in /home/my_user/.config/google-chrome
[03:42] <Guest3135> ok
[03:43] <silv3r_m00n> i installed phpmyadmin from synaptic, its installed in /usr/share/phpmyadmin, but is accessible from localhost/phpmyadmin, how ?
[03:44] <terretz_> Guest3135: type about:plugins into your url field in chrome
[03:45] <Guest3135> Ok looking at .config now
[03:45] <terretz_> see if there are more than 1 flash player
[03:47] <Guest3135> whats weird, is I only see chromium under /home/user/.config/ not google-chrome
[03:47] <Guest3135> is that the same
[03:47] <terretz_> no
[03:47] <sharpie> Considering another disto.  Can't get ubutnu to work stable.
[03:48] <terretz_> hold pleas
[03:48] <terretz_> or - read over this
[03:48] <terretz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5721838/
[03:48] <Guest3135> also under about:plugins I see Adobe Flash Player - Version: 11.2 r202
[03:48] <zykotick9> silv3r_m00n: one is a file path, the other a url.
[03:49] <terretz_> Chromium is a beta version of Chrome (i believe)
[03:49] <silv3r_m00n> zykotick9: that i know, how is localhost/phpmyadmin mapped to that directory, in my /var/www i dont see any symlink or something like that
[03:49] <terretz_> I use it as an alt broswer when needed
[03:49] <Deepfriedice> terretz_, ugly hacks from begining to end.
[03:50] <terretz_> what what?
[03:50] <zykotick9> silv3r_m00n: check your apache config(s)
[03:51] <silv3r_m00n> zykotick9: oh ok, got it
[03:51] <silv3r_m00n> thanks
[03:51] <Guest3135> Ok cool about to do the purge flashplugin-installer
[03:51] <Guest3135> and try again
[03:53] <terretz_> ok
[03:53] <terretz_> I'd recommend installing full chrome as well
[03:53] <Guest36167> http://akk.li/pics/anne.jpg
[04:06] <bulldogggy> hello everyone
[04:06] <terretz_> howdy
[04:06] <bulldogggy> I have a laptop where the only user has someone been excluded from the sudoers group.  The machine also has an encrypted drive.  Is there away to get that user back into the sudoers group or will I have to do a reinstall?
[04:06] <bulldogggy> somehow been excluded not someone
[04:06] <Guest3135> Ok I reinstalled it using the purge thing and it looks like its working perfect now!
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You can probably use a live CD, mount the drive somehow, and edit /etc/group.
[04:06] <Guest3135> Thanks Terretz_!
[04:06] <dr_willis> im not sure o the proper way to mount an encryptd drive.. but askubuntu.com may know
[04:06] <bulldogggy> Rarrikins, thanks for the suggestion.  I tried that already, but for some reason it doesn't seem to be taking the change
[04:06] <terretz_> bulldogggy: can you su root?
[04:06] <dr_willis> theres encrypted home, then encrypting the whole / drive
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You could also edit a startup script that would add the user to a group.
[04:06] <bulldogggy> terretz_, nope I didn't activate the root account
[04:06] <bulldogggy> it was the drive
[04:06] <terretz_> Guest3135: What happened?
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: Then, all you'd have to do whenever that happened would be to reboot.
[04:06] <bulldogggy> hmmm Rarrikins do you have a link or direct me in the right direction to do that
[04:06] <Guest3135> Also while I'm looking at youtube, here's an awesome video about Linux, ignore the title though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-cnaJoGCw
[04:06] <bulldogggy> it is my work laptop, and I think when i added myself to the vbox users group it for whatever reason got rid of the admin group
[04:06] <Guest3135> Oh that text file you sent I did the sudo purge and updated my repos and reinstalled and it looks good now
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-run-a-command-when-boots-up.html
[04:06] <bulldogggy> and I tried for like 3 hours last week to fix it
[04:06] <terretz_> excellent
[04:06] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You can use addgroup in a script.
[04:06] <Guest3135> Yeah Thats what i'm thinking
[04:06] <terretz_> if it happens again - I recommend getting Google Chrome instead of Chromium
[04:06] <Guest3135> [Thanks for the help
[04:06] <bulldogggy> will that script have the proper permissions to add it?
[04:06] <terretz_> n
[04:06] <bulldogggy> during boot?
[04:06] <terretz_> np
[04:06] <Guest3135> Cool
[04:06] <bulldogggy> our could I just go into where my groups are stored and edit it from a live disc?
[04:06] <bulldogggy> I have mounted the disk on other attempts to fix the issue
[04:06] <Baahtti> Hi, so I was trying to follow steps to fix a video bug with Skype and added an i386 architecture. Now I can't fully uninstall skype because that i386 install of skype is still showing up in my dpkg. How can I find and remove this software?
[04:06] <bulldogggy> Baahtti, I believe a purge would fix that
[04:06] <terretz_> yeah - purge skype
[04:06] <bulldogggy> but not 100% certain
[04:08] <nightwolf_> this is I have tryed the ver 10.04 LTS 12.04.LTS 12.10  and 13.04 and only 11.10 and 10.10 have fully work on my toshiba lap top I have 64 bit with a intel core i3 please fix this. ubuntu team.
[04:08] <dr_willis> !bug | nightwolf_
[04:09] <Baahtti> so sudo apt-get --purge remove skype?
[04:09] <dr_willis> Baahtti:  are you sure skype is the package name?
[04:11] <Baahtti> maybe it's skype-bin. I've gotten rid of all the other skypes with "apt-get --purge remove skype" but "dpkg --list | grep -i skype" is still showing me an i386 client: "rc   skype-bin". let me try to purge that specifically
[04:11] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You can start the computer with the live CD, mount the drive, connect to the Internet, go to webchat.freenode.net in a browser, and ask from there.
[04:11] <Baahtti> ok yes that worked, I needed to purge "skype-bin"
[04:12] <bulldogggy> I will have to do that on Monday when I get to work
[04:12] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: Oh, OK.
[04:12] <Baahtti> thanks for confirming I was following the right steps and helping me see more information than I was seeing before.
[04:12] <bulldogggy> I don't have it in front of me right now
[04:12] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: My guess would be, if editing /etc/group didn't work, that the drive was mounted read-only.
[04:12] <ajhlinuxuser> Fedora IRC is not very friendly...
[04:13] <bulldogggy> that is possible I will have to check it for sure
[04:13] <Rarrikins> ajhlinuxuser: That's because Indiana Jones isn't very friendly.
[04:13] <ajhlinuxuser> I got redirected to #fedora-unregistered, then I tried talking to people there, but was banned!
[04:13] <dr_willis> i bet they dont really like Offtopic discussions either. ;)
[04:13] <ajhlinuxuser> I needed to vent.
[04:13] <dr_willis> ajhlinuxuser:  they most likely expect you to regiester your nick then join the proper channel
[04:13] <dr_willis> !regiester
[04:14] <dr_willis> !register
[04:14]  * ajhlinuxuser feels better now
[04:14] <bulldogggy> thanks Rarrikins I think just talking to you got me thinking and I think I can fix it now
[04:14] <bulldogggy> thanks
[04:14] <Rarrikins> bulldogggy: You're welcome.
[04:14] <bulldogggy> I like to think I know a little bit about linux but I am still a novice.  I learn everyday
[04:15] <b3n> question -- how do I change the font of a specific application ?
[04:15] <dr_willis> b3n:  settings in that specific app normally
[04:17] <ajhlinuxuser> As a general guide, the menuitem Edit --> Preferences would be a good start to look into changing things like font.
[04:17] <mojtaba> Hi, is there any shortcut to jump to a workstation, instead of holding alt+ctrl+arrow keys?
[04:17] <dr_willis> 'workstation' ? you mean workspace?
[04:17] <b3n> dr willis -- thanks --
[04:17] <dr_willis> press and hold the super key - to see a list of common unity shortcutss
[04:17] <mojtaba> dr_willis: yes, sorry
[04:18] <bulldogggy> I believe you can set that shortcut key to something yo ulike mojtaba
[04:18] <dr_willis> you might be able to make custome ones using  the ccsm or gnome-settings tools
[04:18] <mojtaba> bulldogggy: how can I do that?
[04:19] <bulldogggy> I am looking
[04:19] <bulldogggy> I believe its in ccsm though
[04:19] <Baahtti> so Ubuntu is a Debian kernel, right? Like, Ubuntu came from Debian?
[04:19] <Gnea> Baahtti: Ubuntu and Debian use a Linux kernel.
[04:20] <Baahtti> Gnea, forgive my improper terminology
[04:20] <bulldogggy> ubuntu comes from the debian tree, but seems to be headed in its own direction
[04:20] <dr_willis> Ubuntu uses its own  kernel setup.  with some ubuntu patches and so forth.. most disrtos do this.. and send their patches and so forth back to the main kernel
[04:20] <Gnea> Baahtti: Ubuntu uses the same package management system that Debian uses, but most packages are unique to Ubuntu
[04:20] <Baahtti> I see, thanks guys
[04:21] <dr_willis> Branches and trees  becoming their own forests. ;)
[04:21] <Gnea> it's all good, better to ask and find out than to wonder forever :-)
[04:22] <bulldogggy> Baahtti, don't worry I learn new things everyday
[04:22] <Baahtti> Alright well. I seem to be stuck in finding a solution for my issue regarding skype. So it seems to be a common bug and there are a lot of 'solutions' but none are working. In skype my webcam is inverted. Could someone help me identify specifics about my machine/hardware to aid in my search?
[04:22] <dr_willis> i imaagine in the next year or 2 - thers going to be some huge  divergance by ubuntu from  debian. ;) going to be a interesting time.
[04:22] <bulldogggy> man Baahtti I saw that issue a year or so back, I can't remember how to fix it
[04:23] <Yud_Zroc> I built a computer for my brother, but the system had issues, the installation was locking up and the system froze when installing 13.04 x64, its a medium powered system 3.4ghz quad core, 8 gigs memory, 1tb hdd space, and all the hardware checked out in the bios, gfx card is an nvidia gt 430
[04:23] <mojtaba> bulldogggy: where is ccsm?
[04:23] <dr_willis> seen the upside down cam in skype mentioned in here a few times.. but i dont recall seeing a general fix
[04:23] <bulldogggy> Baahtti, do you have cheese installed on your machine? and does your camera work right in cheese
[04:23] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:24] <dr_willis> Yud_Zroc:  you ran a memtest on it for a few hours?
[04:24] <Baahtti> bulldogggy, I did install it and it seems to be working just fine for me. I haven't messed with my webcam too much in other applications but Skype is definitely buggy
[04:24] <bulldogggy> ok so that tells us its something with skype itself
[04:24] <Baahtti> what commands can I run to find information about my webcam? It's an onboard webcam on an Asus laptop
[04:24] <bulldogggy> now you installed a x64 system but tried to multiarch to install skype?
[04:24] <Yud_Zroc> dr_willis: No, but the memory read appropriately in the bios, it detected the make and model number, speed and ammount
[04:25] <mojtaba> !list
[04:25] <danielocean> Hello.  I am looking at running Claws-Mail inside of a virtual machine.  Is it possible to install Ubuntu Server and run claws-mail through xorg, or do I need a full desktop environment?
[04:25] <dr_willis> Baahtti:  there used to be a  'virtual webcam'  app called 'webcamstudio' that wwould let you do all sort s of tweaks and tricks to your real webcam (or other video feeds) then have a virtual webcam the apps used showing the effects.
[04:25] <dr_willis> Yud_Zroc:  an install puts a big load on the hd and memory and other parts.. its possible it was overheating, or having memory issues under load.
[04:25] <bulldogggy> I guess we made mojtaba mad
[04:26] <Baahtti> dr_willis, that was my first thought and I was hoping cheese would be that but it wasn't. I'll search for webcamstudio, thanks.
[04:26] <somsip> danielocean: looks like claws-email needs X - http://is.gd/pNArPm
[04:27] <Yud_Zroc> dr_willis: I wonder, could it also be under powered? I am using a 400watt PSU with a phemum II, and an nvidia card...
[04:27] <dr_willis> Baahtti:  it might no longer be in development. ive not ussed it in ages
[04:27] <Baahtti> hrm
[04:27] <Yud_Zroc> dr_willis: I ran a calculator and it said It only used about 300 watts
[04:27] <Baahtti> is there a way with apt-get to just SEARCH for a package but not install it?
[04:27] <danielocean> somsip: so if I install Ubuntu server and install claws-mail from repo it should install that automatically, correct?
[04:27] <Baahtti> I mean from the commandline
[04:29] <Vivekananda> if anyone knows and can pm me of how to install axel on mac I would be very grateful
[04:29] <somsip> danielocean: theoretically, yes. Its a long chain of dependencies, but it makes sense
[04:29] <elkingrey> I'm about to install 12.04 and once it's finished I want to run update and upgrade, but I DON'T want it to upgrade to 12.10 or 13.04. How do I prevent that?
[04:29] <dr_willis> Baahtti:  apt-cache search pettern
[04:30] <dr_willis> pattern )
[04:30] <somsip> elkingrey: it won't. Upgrade to new version is a different command. do-dist-upgrade or something like that
[04:30] <elkingrey> somsip: Okay, cool. Thanks!
[04:31] <dr_willis> an lts release will only notify you of being able to  do a release-upgrade to the next LTS release by default also.
[04:31] <Baahtti> thanks dr_willis
[04:31] <danielocean> Thanks, somsip!
[04:31] <elkingrey> Nice!
[04:31] <danielocean> I'll try that now
[04:31] <heavenmaker> New on linux... Any suggetions where to start?
[04:31] <somsip> elkingrey: it's do-release-upgrade. And note, you may need to 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to get the newest kernel. This will not be a version upgrade and will be okay for you to do (with the usual caveats)
[04:31] <dr_willis> !manual | heavenmaker
[04:32] <Deepfriedice> heavenmaker: not sure if this is the right channel for this, but how new are you?
[04:32] <heavenmaker> I knw basics...
[04:32] <dr_willis> start with the ubuntu manual. then start reading up on other topics you need to know more about.
[04:32] <Deepfriedice> That doesn't really mean anything.
[04:33] <Deepfriedice> ubottu: I should bookmark that, it looks like linking to that will be handy.
[04:33] <dr_willis> ;P
[04:34] <dr_willis> they really need to make a link to that manual site on the  default desktop
[04:34] <soy_el_pulpo> lol
[04:34] <snowrichard> hi
[04:35] <soy_el_pulpo> dr_willis: replace the license by the manual so you have to read it before installing...
[04:35] <dr_willis> have the install load the manual site... as it installs.. for you to read.
[04:35] <snowrichard> just installed 12.04 on my net book lt4010u from flash drive (it has no optical drive)
[04:35] <Deepfriedice> soy_el_pulpo, that's kinda evil, it is 145 pages.
[04:36] <seronis> So my issue with converting PDFs to PNGs earlier i solved.  the specific option i needed to adjust was  -density on the input file
[04:36] <soy_el_pulpo> Deepfriedice: 395 for 12.04 lts, i have it open the pdf version
[04:36] <dr_willis> thats almost 1/2 the size of the normal Microsoft EULA!
[04:37] <Deepfriedice> soy_el_pulpo, dr_willis, Oh God.
[04:37] <dr_willis> ;P
[04:39] <soy_el_pulpo> lol
[04:40] <Baahtti> ok so I keep seeing this command "lsusb", how can I enter a terminal command to view information specific to my onboard webcam?
[04:40] <Deepfriedice> Baahtti, try lspci, then lshw
[04:44] <alfredpp> Hai... I hav msgd earlier as heavenmaker
[04:45] <alfredpp> I like to know some good tutorials for linux
[04:46] <alfredpp> i hav instaled ubuntu 12.04 on the system
[04:46] <Baahtti> I would also. I've had a look at the Linux Administrators Guide before. I like the techincal aspects of that manual, but I'm looking for something more of an introductory guide. Perhaps a booklist that would be good to check out?
[04:47] <alfredpp> Any suggetions?
[04:47] <Deepfriedice> alfredpp, That "getting started" PDF looks good. Asside from that, while there are plenty of tutorials, most are pretty bad and or out of date.
[04:47] <soy_el_pulpo> Baahtti: try this one: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[04:48] <Deepfriedice> http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/12.04e2/en_US/print/Getting%20Started%20with%20Ubuntu%2012.04%20-%20Second%20Edition.pdf
[04:48] <soy_el_pulpo> Baahtti: has a nice pdf version
[04:48] <Baahtti> thanks soy_el_pulpo
[04:48] <Deepfriedice> soy_el_pulpo, that one is for 13.04
[04:48] <soy_el_pulpo> ooppssss... I have the old version
[04:48] <soy_el_pulpo> 10.04 on my machine...
[04:48] <alfredpp> I have that...
[04:48] <Deepfriedice> Thats... pretty old.
[04:49] <Baahtti> I have 13.04 though, so that's helpful to me, thanks.
[04:49] <soy_el_pulpo> sorry 12.04
[04:49] <soy_el_pulpo> Deepfriedice: your link is the correct one, sorry
[04:49] <soy_el_pulpo> uuuffff, lucky
[04:51] <DaveCore82> Does anyone use Ubuntu for their work laptop in a Windows environment with everyone using Outlook/Exchange and MS Office? How do you do it?
[04:51] <_dirk_> i'm trying to run a update in the terminal and it says "could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: permission denied) E: unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:51] <_dirk_> how do i get back to root?
[04:52] <DaveCore82> dirk: sudo su -     ?
[04:52] <DaveCore82> dirk: or sudo bash
[04:52] <soy_el_pulpo> _dirk_: are you root?
[04:52] <Deepfriedice> DaveCore82, I know Evolution has support for Exchange.
[04:52] <soy_el_pulpo> sudo -i
[04:52] <somsip> _dirk_: just 'sudo apt-get update' is good enough
[04:53] <_dirk_> are you root? what does that mean?
[04:53] <aimee> hello
[04:53] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: do you need the advance exchange feature or just email?
[04:53] <somsip> _dirk_: you need to run apt-get with a higher level of priveleges. Just put 'sudo' before the command. that's all
[04:53] <DaveCore82> dirk: root is the almighty user on linux
[04:53] <soy_el_pulpo> _dirk_: that
[04:53] <soy_el_pulpo> lol
[04:53] <DaveCore82> soy_el_pulpo: I need calendars
[04:54] <_dirk_> ok thanx i just forgot the sudo part i guess
[04:54] <soy_el_pulpo> do they have OWA?
[04:54] <DaveCore82> soy_el_pulpo: Yeah.... but I'm afraid of OWA
[04:54] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: why? it will solve your issue with no changes required to you
[04:54] <DaveCore82> soy_el_pulpo: it's the main reason i'm not switching to a linux laptop
[04:55] <DaveCore82> soy_el_pulpo: I do so much emails, I'm afraid my productivity will drop just because of OWA
[04:55] <_dirk_> is it possible to run a few distro's on one drive without partitioning that drive into a partition for each distro?
[04:55] <somsip> _dirk_: no - they need one partition each
[04:55] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: I use my mac laptop in a mixed environment... if I need any windows only app I have a virtual machine
[04:56] <Deepfriedice> DaveCore82, Surely you can just run any email client then?
[04:56] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: you can do the same thing with a Linux laptop
[04:56] <aimee> how do you enable a proxy server on xchat?
[04:56] <Deepfriedice> aimee Settings > Preferences > Networking
[04:56] <aimee> where is this mysterious "Settings"
[04:57] <Deepfriedice> aimee, Sorry,  Settings > Preferences > Network setup
[04:57] <DaveCore82> Deepfriedice: I need the calendar and contacts, i think I need exchange support for that, no?
[04:57] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: you will get used to it... or as Deepfriedice says, use a mail client for most of the time and the OWA for your calendars...
[04:57] <soy_el_pulpo> OWA will be fine...
[04:57] <aimee> All I have is Edit -> Preferences
[04:57] <soy_el_pulpo> it has improved over time
[04:57] <Deepfriedice> DaveCore82, Yeah, I think Evolution might be able to do that.
[04:58] <Deepfriedice> aimee, It's between "Sever" and "Window"
[04:58] <aimee> I have neither
[04:58] <soy_el_pulpo> DaveCore82: I agree with Deepfriedice, there is a plugin "evolution-exchange - Exchange plugin for the Evolution groupware suite"
[04:58] <Deepfriedice> aimee, Screenshot?
[04:59] <aimee> I crashed for a second, if you replied, can you repeat yourself
[05:00] <Baahtti> I also would like to know where the old Ubuntu  "Applications | System | Settings" type options on the taskbar went. I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 and it's been since 11.04 since I last used Ubuntu and it's quite a bit different
[05:00] <DaveCore82> Unity!
[05:00] <heavenmaker> Back again
[05:01] <Baahtti> like I'm using ALT + F2 to find stuff, which is weird
[05:01] <Deepfriedice> aimee, May I see a screenshot?
[05:01] <Baahtti> I'm not knocking Unity, btw, I do think it's a good direction to head in
[05:02] <aimee> how do I send
[05:02] <Baahtti> imgur?
[05:02] <heavenmaker> GNOME 3 is a good gui
[05:02] <aimee> I'll upload to my site
[05:02] <Deepfriedice> aimee, that'll work
[05:03] <DaveCore82> do you eventually learn to like Unity? I have the feeling you need to learn to like it
[05:03] <aimee> http://media.ryansw.com/xchatscrnshot.png
[05:03] <heavenmaker> As I asked before
[05:04] <_dirk_> ubuntu lags on my machine so i'm going to try a few different distro's puppy, xbuntu, Dynebolic, maybe debian....  i would need a partition for each distro. does anyone have a suggustion for how large i should make the partitions for each distro to run efficently
[05:04] <heavenmaker> I am stuck at getting started guide.. I don't know what else
[05:05] <Axlin> DaveCore82: I suppose there is a learning curve, but it's not difficult to learn. The hard part is getting used to it. Personally, I tried it, didn't care for it, and moved back to KDE. My fairly tech-illiterate aunt absolutely loves it for its simplicity, though.
[05:05] <Baahtti> DaveCore82, the more I play around with this Unity the more I'm liking it.
[05:05] <Deepfriedice> aimee, Okay, isn't it just under the "Networks" tab then?
[05:06] <aimee> no, that is just other networks like freenode
[05:07] <DaveCore82> how are you even supposed to use unity??
[05:07] <DaveCore82> what am I missing?
[05:07] <DaveCore82> where is everything??! :)
[05:07] <heavenmaker> _dirk_ debian and fedora is a gud option
[05:08] <somsip> _dirk_: note that it may be that unity is the cause of the lag. There are plenty of other desktops out there
[05:08] <Deepfriedice> _dirk_, how much disk space do you have? I'd go for 10-20GiB
[05:09] <terretz_> Baahtti: apt-cache search *query*
[05:09] <Deepfriedice> somsip, Good point.   _dirk_ , How powerful is your machine?
[05:09] <terretz_> oh wow
[05:09] <heavenmaker> Deepfriedice 2 or 4 gb for swap too
[05:09] <terretz_> sorry - screen was scrolled waaaay up
[05:09] <_dirk_> HEAVENMAKER.....  im looking for something more lighter then ubuntu but with sexy visuals. based on that which would be better for me debian or fedora?
[05:10] <_dirk_> i have about 600 gig total of diskspace, on a 2gighrts cpu with 1 gig of ram
[05:10] <somsip> _dirk_: ubuntu with a different desktop...
[05:10] <heavenmaker> Fedora i think
[05:10] <Baahtti> terretz_, thanks.
[05:10] <_dirk_> i'm running ubuntu 12 stock, i thought that comes with gnome?
[05:10] <somsip> !unity | _dirk_
[05:11] <heavenmaker> No... It doesnt.. u have to download externaly
[05:12] <Deepfriedice> Okay, out of sheer curiosity for what counts as a " GNOME 2-like experience"; !notunity
[05:12] <_dirk_> from what ive read and seen screen shots of i think i would like KDE
[05:12] <Deepfriedice> !notunity
[05:12] <Deepfriedice> Bah.
[05:13] <Axlin> _dirk_: If "sexy visuals" matter to you and Unity is lagging, you might try Linux Mint 15 (with Cinnamon) or Kubuntu (with KDE). No guarantees that they'll perform any better than Unity, but the best way to find out is to try.
[05:13] <Deepfriedice> _dirk_, KDE is also fairly heavy. For lighter things you have DE's like XFCE and Elementry (I think)
[05:13] <heavenmaker> Kde is grt... Bt i think it uses more system resources.. in my system it was slow.. so i moved to gnome.. and it iS Awsm
[05:13] <somsip> _dirk_: Good point Axlin - sexy visuals and slower performance often go hand in hand
[05:14] <Random832> where can i find more information about this 'elementary'?
[05:14] <dr_willis> gnome 3.8 has its own official 'gnome-2' look alike mode.
[05:14] <somsip> Random832: google is useful
[05:14] <mojtaba> Does anybody have any idea about octosetup? http://www.octoshape.com/support/infinite-hd-octoshape-app/
[05:14] <Axlin> Random832: elementaryos.org
[05:14] <_dirk_> i need something light like i said but being new to linux i'm not 100% what would be best... puppy is super lite and i think KDE is too? there is so many combinations it's insane
[05:14] <dr_willis> lightest ubuntu offocial desktop would be  'lubuntu' but its a bit  minimal for some.
[05:14] <Deepfriedice> Yeah, Cinnamon and Mate might count as "middle-weight" as well.
[05:15] <Axlin> Actually Elementary could be another one to look into _dirk_
[05:15] <somsip> _dirk_: it's choice. And you can't compare a distro (puppy) with a desktop environment and make a fair comparison
[05:15] <dr_willis> _dirk_:   puppy linux is very.. weird.. and  i would suggest only if your hardware cant support a more normal disrto
[05:15] <kazak> hey, can someone help explain how to install .tar.gz's?
[05:15] <dr_willis> you can setup an almost identical desktop to puppy on ubuntu.
[05:15] <somsip> kazak: what are you trying to install?
[05:15] <Deepfriedice> kazak, Oh boy.
[05:15] <_dirk_> the only thing that might be kinda out of date is my video hardware
[05:15] <dr_willis> kazak:  they are compessed archives.. if you mean compile SOURCE code.. thats one thing
[05:16] <kazak> the media player nightingale
[05:16] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  i would suggest trying lubuntu
[05:16] <mojtaba> Does anybody have any idea about octosetup? http://www.octoshape.com/support/infinite-hd-octoshape-app/
[05:16] <somsip> !patience | mojtaba
[05:16] <kazak> i'm in the terminal and i cd'd to the folder it's in
[05:16] <dr_willis> kazak:  if its precompiled binaries.. extract the file.. cd to its dir it made.. and run the binary
[05:16] <dr_willis>  ./whateveritscalled
[05:16] <Deepfriedice> dr_willis, _dirk_ , That might be a bit far in the other direction. How about Xubuntu?
[05:16] <Axlin> kazak: Check for a readme first
[05:17] <dr_willis> i dont use xubuntu,  if i want light - i use lubuntu. :)
[05:17] <somsip> kazak: or the website for the package, which is why I'm asking what you are trying to install
[05:17] <kazak> somsip: the music player nightingale
[05:17] <kazak> no readme that i see
[05:17] <dr_willis> if its compiled bianries. you can extract/run it without 'installing'
[05:18] <somsip> kazak: there is a PPA which might make it easier for you, but.....
[05:18] <somsip> !ppa | kazak
[05:18] <dr_willis> look at the files in the archice.. see whats  there.
[05:19] <_dirk_> i'm downloading xubuntu right now... what are the major differences between L and X?
[05:19] <kazak> dr_willis: there's something called "nightingale-bin"
[05:19] <somsip> _dirk_: one uses XFCE and one uses LXDE
[05:19] <dr_willis> if its executalb erun it..
[05:19] <dr_willis> run it
[05:19] <kazak> it isn't running though
[05:20] <aimee> I found my problem
[05:20] <dr_willis> ./whatever-its-called
[05:20] <aimee> I was using gnome x-chat
[05:20] <kazak> it says it's an executable, but it won't open
[05:20] <_dirk_> but you can switch our for differnt enviroments on L and X right ?
[05:20] <Deepfriedice> _dirk_, LXDE is barely a DE, it's basically Openbox with some tools and some configuration done. Light, but  pretty minimal.
[05:21] <eruditehermit> v
[05:21] <dr_willis>  _dirk_  select the one to use at login.. itss trivial to change
[05:21] <kazak> nevermind, i got it working
[05:21] <kazak> thanks
[05:21] <mojtaba> Does anybody have any idea about octosetup? http://www.octoshape.com/support/infinite-hd-octoshape-app/
[05:21] <_dirk_> LXDE is so minimal i probably wouldn't like it then? does it use the apt manager
[05:22] <Deepfriedice> _dirk_, XFCE is a bit heavier then LXDE, but it's more featured as well. I think it's actually pretty similar to XP in some ways, but that's just me. It's also probably my personal favorite.
[05:22] <somsip> _dirk_: ubunut uses the apt manager. The desktop site on top of ubuntu
[05:22] <ryan-c> I like XFCE
[05:22] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  they all use apt
[05:23] <ryan-c> but I also use awesomewm at work which few people like
[05:23] <somsip> _dirk_: I'll try that again with better spelling. Ubuntu uses the apt manager. The desktop sits on top of ubuntu
[05:23] <Axlin> _dirk_: You'll be using APT regardless of the environment you use if you're going to running something Ubuntu-based. But yeah, if you want pretty visuals and such, you won't care much for LXDE. It can look nice, but it's pretty barebones
[05:23] <dr_willis> puppy linux uses rox-filer and jwm  last i looked.
[05:23] <Deepfriedice> APT isn't part of the DE.
[05:23] <somsip> ryan-c: +1 for awesome
[05:23] <_dirk_> does they both use software center? and does the software vary or can you get the same applications as ubuntu on both
[05:24] <ryan-c> I have foot pedals for that computer and a keyboard i hacked a trackpoint into
[05:24] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  software center is just one of many froent ends to the apt ssystem
[05:24] <ryan-c> and a 16 key macro pad
[05:24] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  they can all run the same apps
[05:24] <Rarrikins> You can use compton to give a few simple graphical effects (shadows on windows, translucency, etc.) on LXDE.
[05:25] <_dirk_> can you change your terminal to pacman for example running any of the ubuntu family os?
[05:25] <somsip> _dirk_: pacman is the Arch linux package maintainer. The quesiton makes no sense
[05:25] <Deepfriedice> mojtaba, what on earth is that? The website is incomprehensible.
[05:25] <dr_willis> paman? the arch package manager? thaats not a terminal
[05:26] <mojtaba> Deepfriedice: I am not sure, I was going to watch a site, and it asked me to install it.
[05:26] <dr_willis> time to just pick a desktop and stat using i,t to lean it.. ;)
[05:26] <_dirk_> ok, i'm trying to read as much as i can about all this instead of asking stupid questions in here but there only so much my brain can absorb in one day... ive been doing this all day
[05:27] <Rarrikins> In apt-get, pacman is a Pacman game.
[05:28] <_dirk_> i'm on a website that helps you pick the distro most suitable for your pc and your needs and it asks which package manager i prefer but i've only used apt so i don't know what to choose lol
[05:28] <Rarrikins> _dirk_: You can use apt-get (the standard package manager here) in any of them, though.
[05:29] <Axlin> APT, then. Go with what you're familiar with for now.
[05:29] <dr_willis> ubuntu will work well (or one of its variants) for most people.
[05:29] <dr_willis> its trivial to instgall the xubuntu/xfce and lubuntu/lxde desktops all on top of ubuntu, so youc an try out all 3 desktops  with  ease.
[05:30] <dr_willis> if you want to get ffancier - you can rollup your own desktop setup with other window managers and file managers and tools.
[05:31] <Deepfriedice> Rarrikins, Not true, APT only works on debian package based distros.
[05:31] <mojtaba> What is the difference between debian and ubuntu?
[05:31] <Rarrikins> Deepfriedice: Oh, I meant any of the Ubuntu-based distributions.
[05:32] <Deepfriedice> Rarrikins, Yeah, but whatever site _dirk_ is looking at probably covers more than that.
[05:32] <Rarrikins> Deepfriedice: Ahh, I see.
[05:33] <DaveCore82> mojtaba: ubuntu is based on debian
[05:33] <Deepfriedice> mojtaba, Debian is more stable than Ubuntu, but the packages can be out-of-date. Ubuntu is aimed at new users, Debian is aimed at servers.
[05:33] <Deepfriedice> Roughly.
[05:33] <mojtaba> Deepfriedice: thanks
[05:37] <_dirk_> the website explains fedora as A very capable distro for an experienced Linux user who's going through a mid-life crisis. What the hell is that supposed to mean?
[05:38] <Deepfriedice> Wait, What?
[05:38] <Rarrikins> _dirk_: It probably means that the distribution is faking being young.
[05:38] <Axlin> Heh, not really sure... but I suspect it's referring to how Fedora is fairly bleeding edge, so you get all the brand-spanking, shiny new software to play with.
[05:39] <_dirk_> well that would speak to me more the debian then... it says debian is geared more toward servers too
[05:41] <Axlin> Technically Debian can be geared toward end-users, too. They have testing/unstable branches where you can get *much* newer software than their stable release. But since you sound fairly new to Linux, you may want to stick with something Ubuntu-based.
[05:41] <Axlin> Ubuntu strikes a decent middle ground between having stable software and new software. Go too bleeding edge and you can find your system unstable.
[05:41] <_dirk_> if debian is kinda behinde the time when it comes to software why is all the apps that i seem interested in made for debian example studio 64, muse
[05:42] <_dirk_> is fedora ubuntu based?
[05:43] <Axlin> Debian is the foundation for Ubuntu and all things Ubuntu-derived. It makes it arguably the most influential parent OS in the Linux world. And no, Fedora is not.
[05:44] <_dirk_> oh jesus... i can decide the color socks i'm going to wear from day to day
[05:44] <_dirk_> i cant decide sorry
[05:45] <Axlin> You mentioned earlier that you liked how KDE looked in screenshots. Just give Kubuntu a try, then. See how it goes.
[05:46] <_dirk_> AXLIN... your the man....
[05:47] <Axlin> If you don't like it, two others I would suggest trying would include Linux Mint 15 and Elementary OS. I'm sure one of those will suit your fancy. And they're all Ubuntu based.
[05:49] <_dirk_> ive been trying to find out the system requirments to run musicx, artistx and tango studio...  will they run decent on my machine 2gig CPU/ 1gig RAM/
[05:51] <_dirk_> one more audiophile?
[05:51] <Deepfriedice> Never heard of them.
[05:51] <_dirk_> i guess i wont know unless i test drive em
[05:52] <walltender> My  ubuntu works fine for quite some time, no until recently I got this "modem manager caught signal shutdown" error which halts my shutdown. What confuse me is I didn't do a system update recently. Only installed tlp, which I have uninstalled already. The problem still exists. Google says it's a system bug, but that bug never occurs before? And I'd want to track down the real cause.
[05:55] <ajhlinuxuser> walltender: I have seen that sometimes, but it is hidden behind the Ubuntu logo.
[05:56] <_dirk_> PAE kernel uses 4 gig or ram or non PAE uses 4 gig of ram?
[05:56] <FrozenFire> Anyone happen to know whether it's possible to transfer a purchase made in the Software Centre from one account to another? I bought the game "Bastion" a while back, but was apparently signed into the wrong account at the time. I need to move my purchase to my actual account.
[05:56] <ajhlinuxuser> walltender: perhaps something else has gone wrong, and you are seeing that message now because the spash screen has cleared away.
[05:58] <_dirk_> MINT 15 uses PAE kernel... i cant remeber which is which...  but i only have 1 gig or ram so it suggests using MINT 13 MAYA LTS instead...
[05:58] <Axlin> _dirk_: PAE = 36 bit, which means the system can access up to 64 GB, but applications are restricted to 4 maximum. With 1 GB it won't matter either way.
[05:58] <walltender> ajhlinuxuser: Em, only during shutdown. It just halts there. Where do I go trouble shooting?
[05:59] <walltender> ajhlinuxuser: shutdown -r now wouldn't even shut down.
[06:00] <qin> Axlin: 36 bit?
[06:03] <Axlin> PAE increases the physical address size from 32 to 36 bits.
[06:03] <_dirk_> oh that's awesome mint offers the OS in KDE , XFCE , FLUXbox, LXDE... that's so cool man...
[06:04] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  ubuntu does the  same thing basically
[06:04] <qin> Axlin: just reading, cool point to know
[06:06] <seyfer> hello world
[06:07] <Rarrikins> The world does not respond.
[06:07] <seyfer> :)
[06:11] <sam113101> anyone using the magic trackpad here?
[06:12] <dr_willis> hmm... that sounds  almost... dirty.. it is 2 am here.. so im tired..    ;^)
[06:12] <dr_willis> you mean that apple touchpad thinggie?
[06:12] <sam113101> yes
[06:13] <sam113101> I wonder if it works on ubuntu, and if so, if it works just as on a mac
[06:13] <dr_willis> i wonder how much apple paid the marketing team that came up with the term 'magic' anything... ;P
[06:14] <dr_willis> sam113101:  id say check askubuntu.com to see how well it works . if at all
[06:14] <dr_willis> i cant recall seeing anyone else in here asking about it
[06:16] <_dirk_> if i install Mint with the KDE am i stuck with that enviroment or is changing it simple...
[06:17] <kkerwin> Hi. Anyone familiar with a portable form of disk encryption that would be installable on a flash drive, and runnable on Windows/Mac/*nix systems without admin priveledges?
[06:18] <soy_el_pulpo> !bot
[06:18] <Myrtti> kkerwin: sounds like a job for truecrypt.
[06:18] <soy_el_pulpo> why my nick has parenthesis?
[06:19] <Myrtti> kkerwin: but it might need admin privs tho
[06:19] <kkerwin> Myrtti: Damn.
[06:20] <_dirk_> Dr. Willis... if i choose one enviroment on the mint download am i stuck with it or can i change without re-installing
[06:21] <Ari-Yang> _dirk_, you can switch between DEs
[06:24] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: You can probably get 7-zip programs for each that don't need to be installed, but the computers can record the data and your password.
[06:24] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  i suggest using ubuntu. not mint.
[06:24] <morteza> hi
[06:25] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  and the way linux is designed. makes it rather trivial to change desktops
[06:25] <morteza> I need an application can run in terminal that can teach typing
[06:25] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/29375/is-7-zips-aes-encryption-just-as-secure-as-truecrypts-version
[06:25] <kkerwin> Myrtti and Rarrikins: Problem is work computers. I don't have administrative priveledges, and I won't get admin priveledges to install unapproved software for corporate purposes. Corporate are asshats on that one, but I have to oblige.
[06:25] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: You can get standalone programs that don't need to be installed.
[06:26] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: That sounds good. Can I make container files that will inflate as I add stuff to them, or do I need to encrypt each file separately?
[06:28] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: You can add files to and remove files from 7-zip arbitrarily as long as it's not a solid archive.
[06:28] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: I do not understand.
[06:28] <_Dirk_> my connection was lost, cuase my phone died.... i didn't get to see the answer to my question... DR Willis if you answered me can you please repost...
[06:30] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: Nonsolid 7z archives will inflate as you add things to them.
[06:31] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: I do not understand 'non-solid'; apologies for being unclear before.
[06:31] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  i suggest using ubuntu. not mint.
[06:31] <dr_willis> _dirk_:  and the way linux is designed. makes it rather trivial to change desktops
[06:32] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: Never mind; Google helped.
[06:32] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: Oh, OK :)
[06:33] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: Thank you for your help. I appreciate it.
[06:33] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: You're welcome.
[06:34] <j5sa_> hello all
[06:35] <j5sa_> can i download ubuntu server packages (i.e. lamp, and zoneminder) onto my ubuntu desktop machine and run it as a psuedo server/desktop?
[06:36] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: Know of a good Linux frontend to p7zip? Ark seems to work, but doesn't seem to support encryption.
[06:36] <anand_> I have network problem, when I start pc it says waiting for network configuration and i have to wait for 60 sec. it can't connect to my broadband even its connected and up , running
[06:36] <anand_> I have 12.04 installed
[06:36] <thechris> what grub flags allow for more debug info when the live USB disk won't boot?
[06:36] <anand_> where should I look ?
[06:36] <dr_willis> desktop can run services  j5sa_
[06:36] <thechris> eg, displays a black screen after grub
[06:36] <fluffybunnyuk_> hi guys what can u tell me about upstart?
[06:37] <j5sa_> awesome! thank you much DR
[06:37] <dr_willis> !upstart
[06:37] <fluffybunnyuk_> im looking for an init alternative you see
[06:37] <dr_willis> j5sa_:  theres really not a lot of differances betwen desktop and server except the installed apps
[06:38] <fluffybunnyuk_> does it work well?
[06:38] <dr_willis> fluffybunnyuk_:  most disrtros are moveing to that new one..  i forget its name...
[06:38] <dr_willis> ubuntu eventually plans on moving to it as well from that ive seen in the blogs.. but that may be a year or more away
[06:38] <dr_willis> arch is using it now.. and i cent recall its name...
[06:39] <j5sa_> _dr, i didnt there was, but i wanted to be sure before i proceeded. thanks again.
[06:39] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: the p7zip package includes the 7zr command.
[06:39] <dr_willis> upstart works ok -  its been in use by ubuntu for some time now,.
[06:39] <aeon-ltd> systemd
[06:40] <fluffybunnyuk_> yeah not sure i want systemd tho im running away from suse not towards it :D
[06:40] <dr_willis> yea.. systemd seems like such a. bland name,. l)
[06:40] <dr_willis> i imagine in 5 years systemd will be used by most.. but we will see
[06:40] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: http://p7zip.sourceforge.net/
[06:40] <SecretFire> how can I mount something that shows up in lsusb?
[06:41] <dr_willis> !mount
[06:41] <dr_willis> with the proper mount command SecretFire
[06:41] <fluffybunnyuk_> thx i'll have to give it alot more thought
[06:41] <SecretFire> dr_willis : all I have is the information from lsusb
[06:41] <dr_willis> sudo mount /dev/sdXX  /media/make-a-dir  -o options needed
[06:41] <kkerwin> Rarrikins: Ok. Thank you. Presently running the portable windows version on the target drive under wine for a test drive of what it will be like on the work machine. Runs surprisingly smoothly, considering. Will look at that as a native solution, however.
[06:41] <dr_willis> it has to have a device name in /dev/ or else you are not going to be doing much or anything with it..
[06:42] <SecretFire> dr_willis, how can i see /dev
[06:42] <dr_willis> ls /dev/
[06:42] <dr_willis> a read of that MOUnt wiki page.. is worth the time.....
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: with canonical pushing unity and an alternative to X, i would be surprised if they made a alternative to upstart too
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> *wouldn't
[06:43] <dr_willis> aeon-ltd: i recall seing some discussion abvout eventually moving away from upstart to systemd. but we know how ubuntu is about such things...
[06:43] <dr_willis> drag it out, drag it out more.... NOW hurry and change! ;)
[06:43] <artiken> :)
[06:44] <rosco_y> can anyone tell me how to install twiki?
[06:44] <dr_willis> i think in evolution science terms - thats 'puncuated equilbrieum'   - long time of no changes.. then a huge change quicky
[06:44] <Rarrikins> kkerwin: Oh, OK.
[06:44] <dr_willis> !info twiki
[06:44] <dr_willis> whats twiki?
[06:44] <fluffybunnyuk_> i built my own distro .so i yanked bits from everywhere its sort of a hardened ubfedsuslackdebtoo :p
[06:45]  * dr_willis uses tiddlywiki
[06:45] <DaveCore82> fluffybunnyuk_: not sure I like that name
[06:45] <fluffybunnyuk_> lol how wud u write it DaveCore82?
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> fluffOS
[06:45] <dr_willis> 'FrankenDisrto'
[06:46] <DaveCore82> aeon-ltd: agree
[06:46] <fluffybunnyuk_> haha great idea
[06:46] <DaveCore82> fluffybunnyuk_: I would totally switch distro to fluffOS right now
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> DaveCore82: but your only support is one other user
[06:46]  * dr_willis goes back to HannaMontanaLinux  ;P
[06:47] <dr_willis> Rolling your own disrto is so... 2011
[06:47] <dr_willis> ;P
[06:47] <artiken> MulliganOS / ChopSueyOS / HacknSlashOS / . .. FluffyOS still sounds the best to me.
[06:47] <fluffybunnyuk_> ive been doing it for 15 years now
[06:48] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: like that xkcd about creating the best standard
[06:48] <fluffybunnyuk_> besides ive taken the time to write things in like stack protector to obscure return addresses on the stack :D
[06:48] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:48] <DaveCore82> http://xkcd.com/927/
[06:48] <fluffybunnyuk_> hard to get that out of the box
[06:48] <dr_willis> just dont use  "FurryOS"
[06:49] <fluffybunnyuk_> haha wud the box have to be wrapped in a fur :D
[06:49] <raddy> Bluetooth linkkeys file is empty even after pairing device.
[06:49] <raddy> What can i do?
[06:49] <raddy> I am using ubuntu 13
[06:49] <anand_> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04. When I start PC it says Waiting for network configuration and I have to wait for 60 seconds. What to do If I want to disable that message. I have followed this link : http://avinashtechie.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/disabling-pppoe-connection-in-ubuntu-at-boot-time/ but it seems not to be working.
[06:49] <anand_> Earlier I have installed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE to connect with my broadband.
[06:50] <SecretFire> dr_willis : Im having trouble mounting my android phone to linux it is recognized by lsusb but nothing happens when i plug it in. It was working a few days ago and mounting just fine
[06:50] <histo> anand_: do you have a device configured to obtain an ip address in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:51] <artiken> Change your clocks back to yesterday and everything will be fine. <jk>
[06:51] <dr_willis> SecretFire:  i just  use  airdroid thesedays on android. beats running a usb cable.
[06:51] <DaveCore82> artiken: yeah its the june 1st bug
[06:52] <raddy>  Anybody saw my message?
[06:52] <artiken> 35 yrs and not much has changed.
[06:52] <dr_willis> SecretFire:  the android mtp  stuff can be a pain.
[06:52] <histo> raddy: yes
[06:53] <DaveCore82> this is my favorite xkcd. http://xkcd.com/353/   I'm totally feeling like that these days
[06:53] <Baahtti> So I just briefed "Getting Started with Ubuntu 13.04" and mostly it just helped me to find some software which I quite likely will want and I have installed them. I'm looking for a more advanced guide, like the "Linux Administrators Guide" but a little more beginner friendly like the "Getting Started". Specifically, I'm interested in learning about how to utilize my terminal.
[06:53] <anand_> hista: yes
[06:54] <clcto> DaveCore82: i like the scrollable one
[06:54] <anand_> hosta: the content is
[06:54] <anand_> auto eth0
[06:54] <anand_> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:54] <SecretFire> dr_willis : you have to have a wifi connection right?
[06:54] <SecretFire> dr_willis : i am trying to use google drive
[06:54] <dr_willis> SecretFire: yes.
[06:54] <DaveCore82> clcto: yeah that one was amazing... I think I spent 30 minutes looking at it
[06:55] <clcto> DaveCore82: thats it?
[06:55] <clcto> !yt friday
[06:55] <dr_willis> i dont see how  google drive is related to the question then..
[06:56] <SecretFire> well I can use it to transfer files i thought, but it is failing each time i transfer to the phone
[06:56] <DaveCore82> clcto: I had work to do !
[06:56] <Kaushik_> Hi, whats the best xml editor
[06:56] <SomeoneWeird> Ok so I installed 13.04 yesterday, played around with it etc, updated, installed all my stuff that i'm used to. Then I went to bed, now i've just woken up to a broken unity (or gnome?) and i'm not sure how to fix it. http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6590/screenshotfrom201306011.png Anyone got any suggestions?
[06:57] <dr_willis> try dropbox or copy.com or ubuntu one  perhaps  SecretFire
[06:57] <SecretFire> ok
[06:57] <pizzahutofmexico> Bounjour, Pizza hut of Mexico is giving away free Belgum Waffles with every 3 orders of spicy indian food.
[06:57] <DaveCore82> SomeoneWeird: You just have to put the TV channel to 3, happens all the time to my aunt
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> are you kidding me
[06:57] <SomeoneWeird> DaveCore82, lul
[06:57] <dr_willis> !best | Kaushik_
[06:58] <SomeoneWeird> It's like the desktop isn't redraw()ing, so all the windows are becoming ghosts
[06:58] <Kaushik_>  thanks ubottu.
[06:59] <Baahtti> SomeoneWeird, just curious, you tried rebooting already, right?
[06:59] <anand_> is ubuntu 13 is faster than 12 ?
[06:59] <SomeoneWeird> Baahtti, yeah, and i've installed AMDs drivers with no luck, too
[06:59] <anand_> boot time ?
[06:59] <dr_willis> is for me anand_
[07:00] <anand_> yes
[07:00] <anand_> dr
[07:01] <Baahtti> SomeoneWeird, so you got the AMD drivers installed then or the installation of those drivers failed?
[07:01] <dr_willis> 14 sec to 12 sec....  gotta love ssd drives...
[07:01] <anand_> great
[07:01] <anand_> dr: thanks
[07:02] <dr_willis> 5± weeks of uptine make boottime trivial
[07:02] <SomeoneWeird> Baahtti, I had the Xorg opensource drivers when it started happening, so I installed the AMD ones to see if it would fix it
[07:04] <Baahtti> SomeoneWeird, It looks like you've customized the 'theme' somewhat. Is this the case or is the color-scheme due to the malfunction?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to make an usb stick boot with both ubuntu 32bit and 64bit, so one can choose wich architecture?
[07:06] <Baahtti> I'm wondering if perhaps you've installed something like compiz and it is causing issues.
[07:06] <Baahtti> lotuspsychje, I know that you can add architectures from the commandline
[07:06] <SomeoneWeird> Baahtti, malfunction
[07:06] <SomeoneWeird> it might be
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> Baahtti: well would be interesting to have both on 1 usb stick
[07:08] <Baahtti> SomeoneWeird, hrm, I'm not even certain how to go about it, but I wonder if you restore to the default theme settings if the issues would go away. Perhaps try to start there and see if it may be your themeing causing the issue?
[07:09] <darkapp> hey #ubuntu
[07:10] <darkapp> i just downloaded mint 15 and im having some problems
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !mint | darkapp
[07:10] <darkapp> ya no one answered there, and i figure, well u know
[07:10] <darkapp> ubuntu is kind of the same thing
[07:10] <darkapp> as mint
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> darkapp: well if it isnt supported, we cant help you with mint...
[07:12] <histo> darkapp: try in #linux
[07:12] <histo> actually ##linux
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> darkapp: il be happy to support your problem when you install ubuntu 13.04, you should try it!
[07:12] <darkapp> lotuspsychje: i plan on it
[07:12] <darkapp> through a vm
[07:13] <darkapp> but first i need mint to be working properly
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> darkapp: its rocketfast
[07:15] <toxicFork> hi, i'm using compiz on ubuntu but i don't know what's causing this issue: I want key commands like alt tab to be sent to teamviewer when it's fullscreen, but it's being handled and then it does not get sent to the application
[07:16] <toxicFork> is it possible to "fix" that?
[07:16] <walltender> Which log file do I need to provide on ubuntu forum to get help for my system shutdown error?
[07:17] <artiken> My Windows System 7 machine keeps crashing. What should I do? LOL. Duh. I know. I'll ask the Ubuntu guys. I wonder what they will say? LOL. BTW I switched from Suse to Ubuntu. Even the family loves it.
[07:17] <histo> walltender: what error are you receiving?
[07:18] <_Dirk_> i really want gnu artist distro based on the xubuntu 8....  it's perfect but with my phone being the only internet connection i can't download it unless i can find the torrent.... unfortunatly i can't find the torrent
[07:18] <walltender> histo: modem manager caught signal shutdown, google says it's system error, but I don't get this before and I didn't do system update either.
[07:20] <_Dirk_> is there anyway to download this gnuartist thru the terminal???
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> _Dirk_: wget?
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> _Dirk_: rtorrent is a cli torrent client
[07:22] <iceroot> _Dirk_: wget  for http, rtorrent for torrent
[07:22] <anand_> I have posted a question in askubuntu.com
[07:22] <anand_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/302730/network-problem-in-ubuntu-12-04
[07:23] <anand_> can anybody give answer ?
[07:23] <anand_> please
[07:23] <_Dirk_> i'm not sure what your talking about aeon-ltd and iceroot... can you dumb it down for me
[07:23] <iceroot> _Dirk_: you asked how to download something from the cli
[07:23] <auronandace> _Dirk_: derivatives are not supported here, only proper ubuntu distros
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> _Dirk_: you can use rtorrent to download stuff using terminal
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> anand_: i remember doing something like that when i installed ubuntu server to a laptop, i forgot how i got it working but i'm currently using wicd to manage connections though that might not be relevant at all
[07:25] <_Dirk_> it's a xubuntu distro??? isnt' that close enough? and the question is pertaining to how to dowload something using ubuntu....  wow
[07:25] <iceroot> _Dirk_: wget http://linuxfreedom.com/gnuartist/gnuArtist-lite_10.04.2_i386.iso
[07:25] <iceroot> _Dirk_: its based on ubuntu 10.04 so its EOL and will not get security updates anymore
[07:26] <iceroot> _and its also not supported here, we only support official ubuntu versions
[07:26] <anand_> aeon: is wicd good to use for network
[07:26] <anand_> ?
[07:27] <_Dirk_> iceroot... i'm trying to download it normaly at the same link you provided but i'm using a smart phone with a connection speed of 11m/s so it's saying 3 days
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> anand_: i like it, though i don't use it for anything other than connectioning via wifi
[07:27] <iceroot> _Dirk_: the file is 1.4GByte
[07:28] <auronandace> _Dirk_: seriously, why don't you use ubuntu studio instead?
[07:28] <walltender> No one?
[07:28] <auronandace> !studio | _Dirk_
[07:28] <iceroot> _Dirk_: i would not suggest to use gnuartist because its EOL
[07:28] <anand_> aeon-ltd: thanks I will take look of it. I have couple of softwares for that but fail so scar to use new
[07:29] <iceroot> _Dirk_: http://ubuntustudio.org/download/
[07:29] <_Dirk_> my graphics card is to old i think... i'm lagging trying to watch an video's even on my hard drives... i'm never going to be able to edit anything
[07:29] <anand_> hi
[07:30] <echoe> dirk what graphics card do you have/
[07:30] <anand_> 05hi
[07:30] <_Dirk_> what's EOL mean?   my graphic card is built on my mother board and i have no idea... i don't know what program to run thru ubuntu to tell me
[07:31] <auronandace> _Dirk_: end of life, no longer supported whatsoever
[07:31] <dr_willis> time to learn about your hardware sounds like...
[07:31] <viper155> Hello, can't connect as memory storage my galaxy s3 with jelly bean 4.1.2 to ubuntu 12 because samsung disabled menu entry "connect as mass storage"
[07:31] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  look at the 'lspci' command  output
[07:32] <dr_willis> viper155:  i belive you use the MTP method. or i perfer to use AIRDROID for my s3
[07:32] <dr_willis> viper155:  and using mtp may require some tweaking/scripts  the omgubuntu and webupd8 sitgte had some guides on it
[07:32] <dr_willis> airdoid is  much easier to use. then fighting with mtp.
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> is there a package that can work with oovoo?
[07:33] <iceroot> viper155: google disabled it. its disabled on all new android devices because of microsoft. they have rights for fat filesystem and every smartphone will cost 5$ licence to microsoft, because of that google is not using fat anymore but ext. so you have to mount it with mtp
[07:33] <viper155> Dr willis need a router to ude airdroid and data via 3g
[07:33] <dr_willis> viper155:  so? if you want to use MTP over usb cable.. you WILL need to  find some guides to learn what you need to install/do/ it wont be automatic
[07:34] <viper155> I don't want to spend traffic data to connect phone in the same room! Absurd
[07:34] <dr_willis> at least not for 12.04 or 12.10
[07:34] <_Dirk_> http://imagebin.org/259786
[07:34]  * dr_willis got a wireless router for $7 the other day...
[07:34] <dr_willis> i dont need 3g to use airdroid
[07:34] <viper155> Right
[07:34] <viper155> You'r right
[07:35] <viper155> But need router
[07:35] <dr_willis> mtp support is only  recently been added to the latest release.. and im not even sure it works well in 13.04 yet.
[07:35] <viper155> Under windos via kies i can via usb
[07:35] <_Dirk_> on a sprint rooted phone you don't spend any extra money on data
[07:35] <dr_willis> youmay need to look up the mtp guides and do the mounting via script/hand, not automatically
[07:36] <viper155> Uff... so complicated..
[07:36] <dr_willis> you asked how.. thats how..
[07:36] <area51pilot> Anybody know of loading touch to a Verizon HTC phone?
[07:36] <viper155> I think i will buy  router
[07:36] <dr_willis> MTP is not fully automatic yet.
[07:36] <dr_willis> Now you know why i keep suggesting airdroid and a router. ;)
[07:36] <_Dirk_> can anyone look at that imagebin file and tell me what graphics card i have?
[07:37] <viper155> Yes yes thank you guys ;-)
[07:37] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  are you on a ubuntu live cd right now? or what os exactly?
[07:37] <auronandace> _Dirk_: no offence but you are not going to be able to do much with that ancient nvidia graphics
[07:37] <viper155> Dr willis cant send from pc to phone via bt but not vice-versa
[07:38] <viper155> From phone to pc i can
[07:38] <dr_willis> viper155:  i picked up a low end wireless only router - that looks  like a 'wall wart' dc adaptor ;)  its only 150 speed.. but handy to have on the road.\\
[07:38] <auronandace> _Dirk_: bottom line is that your computer is simply going to get less useful rather quickly
[07:38] <_Dirk_> i installed ubuntu 12 from wubi straight onto my c drive next to windows.... i plan to format c and install ubuntu or whatever correctly once i find out which distro i want
[07:38] <dr_willis> viper155:  for android i find that some of the 3rd party BT apps/rile managers work nbetter then the default tools
[07:38] <dr_willis> but I also find BT very very slow.
[07:39] <area51pilot> Bluetooth transfer issues viper?
[07:39] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  if you got the ubuntu 12.x iso file from the wubi instlall sstilll downloaded.. that would be an ok one to use.
[07:39] <viper155> Area51 yes cant send from pc
[07:40] <_Dirk_> i biult this machine in 2001 and it was top of the line!!!!  but i know i need to uprade... truth is i cant afford it... i'm stealing power illegally just to turn the machine on... to be honest
[07:40] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  there are some guides out on converting  wubi install to a 'norma;l' install also
[07:40] <dr_willis> 2001? I wonder if my RaspberryPi has more powar ;)
[07:40] <area51pilot> I had to install blueman  then out started working fine
[07:41] <_Dirk_> well being that you see my problem with my graphics card that's why i'm searchin a lighter distro
[07:41] <area51pilot> Had the issue in 12.10 & 13.04 viper
[07:41] <viper155> Dr willis anothrr solution is to boot win and use kied or unmonut microsd and connect to pc via adapter because i dont need to tranfers huge files every day
[07:41] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  lightest ubuntu variant wwill be Lubuntu.   other then that.. anything lighter will be non-ubuntu based.
[07:41] <viper155> Area51 galxy s3?
[07:41] <dr_willis> or rolling your own ubuntu mini install
[07:41] <_Dirk_> thing is i have no problems watching anything on xp.... but i hate windows and my mac book just got stollen
[07:41] <auronandace> _Dirk_: if lubuntu doesn't do it for you then you could install the mini.iso and install something like fluxbox
[07:42] <area51pilot> What about out Viper?
[07:42] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  if you dont have the right 3d/video card drivers installed for the card. that will make things sluggish
[07:42] <viper155> Send from pc to gslaxy s3
[07:42] <area51pilot> *it
[07:42] <viper155> Via bt
[07:42] <viper155> I cant
[07:42] <_Dirk_> i turned to ubuntu because i'm sick of installing drivers
[07:42] <area51pilot> I had an HTC and Samsung viper
[07:43] <_Dirk_> how do i know if i have the correct drivers installed with ubuntu
[07:43] <area51pilot> There are a bunch of bug reports
[07:43] <viper155> So blueman is the answer?
[07:43] <histo> _Dirk_: What type of video card do you have?  You can find out with lspci
[07:43] <auronandace> _Dirk_: your graphics card is seriously too old, you are likely using the right drivers from the beginning (no need to install others)
[07:43] <area51pilot> Installing blueman  was easiest fix to get it working
[07:43] <viper155> I'll give it a chance
[07:44] <area51pilot> Before installing it would fail trying to transfer to phone
[07:44] <_Dirk_> i was going to try xubuntu before going to L...  HISTO http://imagebin.org/259786
[07:44] <viper155> Thank you area51 and dr willis and everyone here
[07:44] <area51pilot> Problem started with 12.10 & later
[07:44] <area51pilot> :)
[07:45] <viper155> Area with android 2.3 no problems via bt or usb. Samsung disabled mass storage usb in jelly bean
[07:46] <area51pilot> Good to know viper...looking at getting s4 soon
[07:46] <iceroot> viper155: as i already said, it was not samsung, it was google
[07:46] <histo> _Dirk_: how much ram do you have?
[07:46] <iceroot> viper155: because of licence issues
[07:47] <viper155> Iceroor right :-)
[07:47] <_Dirk_> oh well.... if i was a chick i'd work the streets and buy a badass machine but i'm a felon with no job and support myself doing tattoo's out of a dingy little tattoo shop... i can't afford a new comp....  HISTO... 1 gig of ram/ 2 gig CPU
[07:48] <viper155> Area51 s4 will be as s3 same firmware
[07:48] <iceroot> _Dirk_: thats no problem and we respect it, for that case we have for example lubuntu which is perfectly for older systems
[07:48] <viper155> 4.2.2
[07:48] <histo> _Dirk_: What is your question?
[07:48] <area51pilot> Yes
[07:48] <iceroot> viper155: #android
[07:48] <viper155> Thank you ice
[07:49] <viper155> A good day guys bye
[07:49] <viper155> ;-)
[07:50] <area51pilot> ;)
[07:50] <_Dirk_> HISTO ive been pouring over google pages all day trying to find a distro that will work for me. i'm just getting some advice... i'm looking for something that i can do audio and video editing on... people did it in 2001 when this machine was top of the line, so i'm just trying to put the right os and software to edit like its the 90's dude
[07:50] <netlar> hi
[07:51] <auronandace> _Dirk_: you won't get anywhere, you machine is just too old
[07:51] <iceroot> _Dirk_: for the os i would recommend lubuntu. there you can install all programs which are also available for xubuntu, ubuntu-studio, ubuntu and so on
[07:51] <dr_willis> setting up MTP was not that hard for 12.x  i recall following the guides on either ombubuntu or webupd8 and getting it working
[07:51] <histo> _Dirk_: well you are able to run ubuntu xubuntu lubuntu or any of the derivatives with that hardware. For more performance I would run xubuntu or lubuntu and install audacity or whatever editors you need.
[07:51] <iceroot> auronandace: i am using 630mhz, 512mb ram, 12gb hdd here without any problems
[07:52] <histo> auronandace: please don't have the windows mindset of what hardware is needed to run linux. You can run even modern distros on some pretty old hardware.
[07:52] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  back then editing a 640x480 video was a big deal.. now these days they are  HD huge GB sized files.. ;) so  'video editing' has a large varity of needs
[07:52] <auronandace> iceroot: are you also editing audio and video on that?
[07:52] <iceroot> auronandace: mostly pictures
[07:52] <_Dirk_> ya... i'm downloading xubuntu now, i'm gonna take that for a test drive when it's done downloading, using my optimus s sprint phone getting 11m/s...  3 days from now!!!!! lol
[07:53] <echoe> sprint? fast downloads? what?!?
[07:53] <histo> auronandace: minimum specs for desktop is 700Mhz with 512MB or ram and 5GB hard drive
[07:53] <dr_willis> i think it would be time to head to the nearwst free wifi location and download the iso there.....
[07:53] <echoe> histo, that means they're under the minimum specs. and we are talking about video and audio editing, which is more intensive.
[07:53] <auronandace> histo: with respect, he wants to do audio and video editing, i doubt those specs would cut it
[07:53] <_Dirk_> echoe... right... jesus i'm f-ing dying over here
[07:54] <echoe> i misread it as 11M/sec i think
[07:54] <Deepfriedice> _Dirk_, What is your computer?
[07:54] <_Dirk_> it's not for a film coming out in nation wide theaters... i'm using adobe flash and making cartoons man!!!
[07:55] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  you do realize that flash is rather poorly supported in linux?
[07:55] <echoe> ... yeah, flash isn't computer intensive at all
[07:55] <_Dirk_> DEEPFI... it's custom built
[07:55] <auronandace> _Dirk_: flash performance on a cpu that old is rather abysmal
[07:56] <dr_willis> flash is rather poor.. on anything these days it seems. ;)
[07:56] <artiken> ++on flash being poor.
[07:56] <dr_willis> gimp does have an animation package/feature// but ive never ussed it
[07:56] <echoe> it's great on the ipad!
[07:56] <_Dirk_> ive only had ubuntu for 3 days... i havn't been able to test flash yet... but i'm not stingy i'll learn another program to make cartoons... i just wanted to try linux out
[07:57] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  so you installed wubi from some ISO file? thst you still have downloaded? or how did you download the iso for wubi?
[07:57] <_Dirk_> utorrent
[07:57] <dr_willis> and what release are you using now in wubi?
[07:57] <_Dirk_> 12.1 i think
[07:58] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  you do know you can install the 'lubuntu-dektop' package and try out lxde on that wubi install?
[07:58] <artiken> Gimp = Adobe Ilistrator, Inkscape = CorelDraw/Adobe flash. I use CLI PovRay for animations + Inkscape
[07:59] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  so what are you downloading right now anyway?
[07:59] <histo> auronandace: sure they would.. it depends on the editors and what sort of "editing" he will be doing. He's not going to be making the next Toy Story on those specs but he can edit a home video just fine.
[07:59] <_Dirk_> xubuntu and Lubuntu. Mint...  umm... Fedora... Puppy
[08:00] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  what VersIOn of xubuntu and lubuntu? and why even bother with mint and fredora
[08:00] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  an install of the lubuntu-desktop package will be about a 400mb download on the pc i imagine...
[08:00] <_Dirk_> cause i'm dumb... i don't know shit about linux... so i'm
[08:00] <dr_willis> forget mint, and forget fedrora
[08:01] <dr_willis> what version of xubuntu and lubuntu are you downloading?
[08:01] <_Dirk_> X & L are both 13.04 i386
[08:01] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  and whats your CPU exactly?
[08:02] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  because 13.04  REQUIRES a pae enabled CPU.
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> iirc i386 has been dropped for quite some time now
[08:02] <_Dirk_> http://imagebin.org/259786
[08:02] <_Dirk_> so i'm wasting my time... i need like version 10?
[08:02] <Just_Me> hey guys i need a small help, whenever i view youtube videos in fullscreen the quality becomes jagged. how do i fix it?
[08:03] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  whats what im driving at.. 12.04 or 12.10 may be the latest you can use.. depending on your cpu/
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> Just_Me: what gpu? install the drivers
[08:03] <dr_willis> when did the PAE needed kick in? 12.10?
[08:03] <Deepfriedice> _Dirk_, I THINK Xubuntu 12.04 can still run without PAE.
[08:03] <_Dirk_> ok so i need 12.04
[08:03] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  and tip #!1  ---> Instsll the pastebinit command and stop posting screenshots of terminals...
[08:04] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  this is why i asked what iso you used fo ryour wubi install.
[08:04] <_Dirk_> well thanx for the headsup... ive only wasted about 4 hours downloading 13.04
[08:04] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  was it 12.10 or 12.04 ?
[08:04] <Just_Me> aeon-ltd: im on NVIDIA(laptop) current installed driver is 3.19
[08:04] <Deepfriedice> Just_Me, You possibly can't. Flash on any Linux is terribly inefficient.
[08:05] <Just_Me> oh ok.
[08:05] <clcto> linux is terribly inefficient
[08:05] <_Dirk_> i'm not sure it's what ever is offered on the ubuntu wubi website
[08:05] <dr_willis> your cpu DOES mention 'pae' in the screeen shot..
[08:05] <clcto> \troll
[08:05] <Just_Me> so is there no around this?
[08:05] <Phryq> when I try to install flash player from the software center I get this, pastie.org/7992346
[08:05] <Just_Me> *way
[08:05] <aeon-ltd> woah flash does work well enough for video playback
[08:05] <artiken> _dirk: The basic Kernel is going to be aproximetly the same size, very small. If you add a X window and a GUI desktop. Which desktop you use determines the memory and CPU requirements. LXDE is a very small memory requirement desktop. KDE is the fattest desktop. KDE also has many "wiz-bangs" that look nice but cost memory and CPU.
[08:05] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  for what you are doing.. you may gain very little by using 13.04 over 12.04 or 12.10
[08:06] <Phryq> I've recently installed the new Ubuntu and since then I've had problems installing a few programs. I'm wondering if I should just do another fresh install
[08:06] <Phryq> like, maybe the install didn't go right, so it's having a hard time installing software now. Is that likely?
[08:06] <Deepfriedice> Just_Me, I'm not sure, what browser, graphics driver, flash version and hardware do you have?
[08:06] <_Dirk_> i'm not running the 13.04... i should have known not to download it... i'll correct it
[08:07] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, Did you run a integrity check before installing?
[08:07] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  also im not sure how much i would trust a 1+gb download over a slow cellphone connection to be 'correct'
[08:07] <Phryq> yes, but I'm actually not sure what the results of the check were
[08:07] <dr_willis> and 12.10 or 12.04 will do you fine for    the tasks you have mentioned
[08:07] <_Dirk_> can i use 12.10 and put lxde on it and be ok?
[08:07] <_Dirk_> it's 3g
[08:08] <Phryq> can I run another integrity check now? or is it too late?
[08:08] <aeon-ltd> _Dirk_: yeah
[08:08] <Just_Me> @Deepfriedice chrome ver.27 / NVIDIA 3.19
[08:08] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  we have said several times - you can install lubuntu-desktop package on any  ubuntu install and it will 'add' lxde/lubuntu' to the install
[08:08] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, you run the integrity check on the disk/flashdrive
[08:08] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:  so all you need to do on your current WUBI install is install 'lubuntu-desktop' then select lubuntu at the login screen
[08:08] <Phryq> can I put the flashdrive in now, and run the check from Ubuntu?
[08:08] <dr_willis> it will be a few100mb download most likely.
[08:09] <_Dirk_> do i need to change something on the usb driveinstallation image
[08:09] <Phryq> or I guess I can just re-boot from the flash and run the check, right?
[08:09] <artiken> _Dirk: THE cool thing about Linux is you can install many versions and choose at boot time. Your software stays pretty much the same. So you can easily start with 12.04 and then just upgrade to 13.10 (not out yet). You can just as easily downgrade by using the package manager.
[08:09] <dr_willis> _Dirk_:   what usb drive install image/ if its a UBUNtu image.. you install UBUNtu, then add lubuntu-desktop afterwards
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> do not downgrade
[08:09] <Deepfriedice> Just_Me, Chrome huh? I think that has it's own copy of flash.   How does video playback do outside youtube, can you play the same resolution videos fullscreen?
[08:09] <auronandace> !downgrade | artiken
[08:10] <artiken> I know I did it.
[08:10] <_Dirk_> ok... thanx guys... it's 4am i'll pick this up tomorrow
[08:10] <area51pilot> :P
[08:10] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, You have to boot from the flashdrive, and pick "integrity check" rather than "start ubuntu"
[08:10] <Just_Me> @Deepfriedice i get similar quality when viewed fullscreen even outside youtube.
[08:11] <Phryq> ok, will do that now. Thanks
[08:11] <artiken> required a format. but the good side was the many partitions so the /usr/share/apt/.. directory still had the software versions already downloaded.
[08:12] <Deepfriedice> Then it's not flash. And if you are running the latest nvidia drivers, it's probably you're hardware.
[08:12] <Deepfriedice> *your
[08:13] <Phryq> did the disk check. No errors
[08:14] <Phryq> fast though, eh? It's on an SSD
[08:14] <dr_willis> Supper Speedy Drive
[08:15] <Phryq> so reinstalling the OS won't do anything if there are no disk defects?
[08:15] <area51pilot> Phryq...I've had bad installs before
[08:16] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, What EXACTLY do you mean by "It's on an SSD"?
[08:16] <area51pilot> Where re install was better than initial
[08:17] <Phryq> oh, I meant my hard drive is a solid state drive, which is why I can shut-down and boot up so quick. (That wouldn't effect the disk-check time though, of course).
[08:18] <Phryq> do you think I'm not connected to a certain repository, and that's why I can't install a bunch of programs and get these unmet dependency errors?
[08:18] <area51pilot> What can't you install?
[08:19] <Phryq> flash
[08:20] <Deepfriedice> It's always flash
[08:20] <Deepfriedice> Uh, can you post the error you get?
[08:20] <area51pilot> Use chrome.  :P
[08:21] <Phryq> pastie.org/7992346
[08:21] <area51pilot> Do you have flash available in the software center
[08:22] <Phryq> yes
[08:22] <Phryq> that's where I tried to get it from
[08:22] <Phryq> it's not the only install that gives me that error, just the most recent thing I've tried installing
[08:23] <Phryq> but I get it when I try to install a bunch of things
[08:23] <Bray90820> oops wrong channel
[08:23] <Phryq> some things, like VLC, install fine. I don't know what the pattern is.
[08:24] <Phryq> area51pilot, I get the same error installing chromium, though it's more specific about what dependencies it can't meet
[08:24] <Phryq> should I post them?
[08:25] <area51pilot> Yes
[08:25] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992381
[08:25] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, No, what program are you useing for package management?
[08:25] <Phryq> Ubuntu Software Center
[08:25] <area51pilot> There s a manual install for flash in this link:
[08:25] <area51pilot> http://forums.adobe.com/message/4724232
[08:26] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, That actually looks really wrong.
[08:27] <Deepfriedice> Get Synaptic, (it's better) and lets see I we can find out what's going on.
[08:27] <Sticks> Hi, I have a C510 Logitech webcam. VLC and Cheese show a stretched 4:3 image when set to 16:9. How can I get it to record in unsquashed 16:9?
[08:28] <Phryq> http://postimg.org/image/lyz8zpuzn/
[08:29] <Phryq> there's a screenshot with the errors
[08:30] <Deepfriedice> Oh dear.
[08:30] <Deepfriedice> Let's try Synaptic.
[08:31] <Phryq> apparently I have programs installed which cannot be installed at the same time? Should I just try uninstalling those?
[08:32] <area51pilot>  Phryq http://m.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-google-chrome-cant-be-installed-in.html?m=1
[08:33] <area51pilot> This is where I hit libudev0 from in order to load Chrome after installing 13.04
[08:33] <area51pilot> *got
[08:33] <Phryq> oh, I was installing Chromium, not Chrome, sorry.
[08:33] <area51pilot> Same dependency though
[08:34] <area51pilot> Look at your error
[08:34] <Deepfriedice> Huh. You can probably just grab it from: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and install it with gdebi
[08:34] <area51pilot> Probably
[08:35] <deckard> hello. I removed my earphones from the notebook and now there is no audio. Can this be fixed without a restart ?
[08:35] <area51pilot> Check audio source is speakers
[08:35] <histo> Phryq: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium
[08:35] <Baahtti> What is the program that gives me terminal 'sessions', like being able to have multiple 'virtual terminals' inside of one terminal?
[08:35] <histo> deckard: unmute the sound
[08:36] <area51pilot> :p
[08:36] <histo> Baahtti: screen or tmux
[08:36] <Baahtti> SCREEN! thanks!
[08:36] <deckard> it is not muted. I am checking audio source
[08:36] <deckard> thank you area51pilot it is working
[08:38] <area51pilot> ;)
[08:39] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992425
[08:39] <Phryq> histo, this is the output from 'sudo apt-get install chromium'
[08:40] <Phryq> baahtti, terminator
[08:40] <histo> !info chromium-browser | Phryq
[08:40] <histo> Phryq: sorry wrong package name use chromium-browser after apt-get update
[08:41] <Deepfriedice> chromium is a vertical scrolling space shooter, chromium-browser is a webbrowser.
[08:41] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992431
[08:41] <Phryq> haha
[08:41] <rocks> HELLO. I'm on Raring Ringtail and when I minimize a window it gets stuck midway of the animation and whole system hangs for 20 minutes
[08:42] <rocks> Unity
[08:42] <histo> rocks: video driver?
[08:42] <rocks> radeon on RS880 4250 HD
[08:43] <histo> Phryq: do you have any ppa's enabled?
[08:43] <Phryq> don't know what a ppa is
[08:43] <area51pilot> :p
[08:43] <ilnarik> hi all
[08:44] <histo> !ppa | Phryq
[08:44] <perelman> Hi!
[08:44] <Deepfriedice> Phryq, Have you done anything odd with apt?
[08:44] <area51pilot> Software sources
[08:44] <histo> Phryq: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[08:44] <perelman> I find soft for sync iPhone with Ubuntu
[08:44] <Phryq> I have enabled a couple other repositories.
[08:44] <histo> Phryq: non standard repositories?
[08:45] <histo> !iphone | perelman
[08:45] <Phryq> I was getting errors trying to install software before, and I thought it was because I was missing a repo, so I enabled a couple. I disabled them later thinking they were causing the problem, and now I've re-enabled them again. I really have no idea what I'm doing though
[08:45] <perelman> Yeah
[08:45] <Phryq> medubuntu repos I installed manually
[08:45] <perelman> Phryq Thanks
[08:46] <dr_willis> i cant even think of a reason to use Medibuntu any more
[08:46] <Phryq> and I just clicked the checkmark in settings for the Canonical Partners and Independent
[08:46] <histo> Phryq: well try disabling the repositories you added with the exception of the partner and canonical repos
[08:46] <Phryq> I was just trouble shooting online and read an article that mentioned I should do it.
[08:47] <histo> Phryq: you should only need the main and universe repos enabled for chromium
[08:48] <Phryq> k, did it. Still getting the same error. Do I need to reboot?
[08:48] <histo> Phryq: no you just need to sudo apt-get update after disabling the other ones
[08:48] <histo> !info libnss3-1d
[08:49] <dr_willis> after altering your repos.. you always need to 'update' the package listing.  'sudo apt-get update'
[08:49] <Phryq> same errors
[08:50] <Phryq> I think I will just re-install my system. When I have a fresh install I won't do ANY tweaks
[08:50] <Phryq> or enable ANY repos
[08:50] <histo> Phryq: nO need to reinstall... just fix your repos
[08:50] <Phryq> I did
[08:50] <histo> Phryq: use the software center and go to software sources... Then you can enable/disable whatever you want
[08:50] <dr_willis> i dont even see the errors at the past witee.
[08:50] <dr_willis> site
[08:51] <dr_willis> there we go - it was slow. ;;)
[08:51] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992431
[08:52] <dr_willis> try the old 'sudo apt-get update'   'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' trick yet?
[08:52] <rsdaltin> oi
[08:52] <rsdaltin> falem alguma coisa
[08:52] <Phryq> I actually was having all these buggy-problems with version 12.10 as well, which is why I did a fresh install of 13. Is it normal to have this many problems?
[08:53] <Phryq> will try that not dr_willis , thanks
[08:53] <dr_willis> i rarely have any prroblems with ubuntu
[08:53] <area51pilot> Same here
[08:53] <Phryq> I must have bad computer karma
[08:54] <Phryq> same error still
[08:54] <dr_willis> the error messages says you got tht package held for some reason. Unhold it. ;)
[08:54] <rsdaltin> #gay
[08:54] <dr_willis> or just remove  it.. heh
[08:54] <Phryq> how do I do that?
[08:54] <dr_willis> but im not sure what nss' does.. sounds imporntant
[08:54] <area51pilot> -f force and fix?
[08:55] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get -f        might straighten it out
[08:55] <area51pilot> ;)
[08:55] <area51pilot> Maybe
[08:55] <dr_willis> i rarely have apt issues.. so rarely need to try to fix things.
[08:56] <dr_willis> i bet    askubuntu.com has dozzens of suggestions on fixing it ;)
[08:56] <area51pilot> Sometimes #
[08:56] <area51pilot> $h!+ just happens
[08:56] <Phryq> did " sudo apt-get -f" and it told me it has Super Cow Powers.
[08:57] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove nss    would remove that nss package   i imagine. but that may also uninstall other sstuff
[08:57] <area51pilot> Wow
[08:57] <Phryq> if it uninstalls other stuff, can I just re-install that other stuff, or might that break my system?
[08:57] <Phryq> I guess I might as well try
[08:57] <dr_willis> its possible you rnss package got updated from some of the reepos you had added
[08:57] <area51pilot> What's the worst that can happen?
[08:57] <area51pilot> Reinstall?
[08:58] <dr_willis> theres a way to tell it to uninstall/reinstall   but ive rarelyneeded that
[08:58] <area51pilot> :P
[08:58] <Phryq> "E: Unable to locate package nss"
[08:58] <dr_willis> !find nss
[08:58] <dr_willis> what was the package name it was complaining about?
[08:58] <Phryq> I think I will just re-install my OS, and next time I have a problem, I will come here right away rather than trying to fix it myself.
[08:59] <dr_willis> !info nss
[08:59] <area51pilot> It's a quick install
[08:59] <Phryq> if I want to experiment I'll do it in a virtual machine
[08:59] <dr_willis> a remove of that package once you determins its real name.. should fix things.. would be my guess
[08:59] <area51pilot> I've wasted more time trying to fix a botched system
[08:59] <Phryq> oh ya?
[08:59] <Phryq> so how do I find it's real name?
[09:00] <dr_willis> and apt-get  DOES support  tab completion :) to make it easier to use
[09:00] <dr_willis> what does thee error message say the package name is?
[09:00] <area51pilot> Good night and good luck
[09:00] <Phryq> 'night. Thanks for the help
[09:00] <area51pilot> :)
[09:00] <Deepfriedice> Goodnight
[09:00] <histo> area51pilot: what are you trying to fix?
[09:01] <Phryq> which error message do you mean specifically dr_willis ? The one when I try to install?
[09:01] <area51pilot> Nothing for me
[09:01] <Ponch0> Anyone with ubuntu-gnome 13.04 here having issues after last nights upgrade?
[09:01] <dr_willis> no it says in the error message.. depends on ......
[09:01] <area51pilot> I'm just fine
[09:01] <area51pilot> ;)
[09:01] <dr_willis> im on my phone so jumping back and forth to a browser iss a pain
[09:01] <Phryq> " Depends: libudev0 (>= 147) but 175-0ubuntu13 is to be installed"
[09:02] <area51pilot> Same here...4 am...time to sleep. :P
[09:02] <area51pilot> Night all
[09:02] <Phryq> 'night
[09:02] <dr_willis> !info libudev0
[09:02] <dr_willis> !find libudev
[09:02] <Seveas> [11:01] <      Ponch0> | Anyone with ubuntu-gnome 13.04 here having issues after last nights upgrade?                                            adamx
[09:02] <Phryq> it's trying to install a package that doesn't exist in Raring?
[09:02] <Seveas> [11:01] <      Ponch0> | Anyone with ubuntu-gnome 13.04 here having issues after last nights upgrade?                                            adamx
[09:02] <dr_willis> Hmmm... that is weird...
[09:02] <Seveas> [11:01] <      Ponch0> | Anyone with ubuntu-gnome 13.04 here having issues after last nights upgrade?                                            adamx
[09:02] <FloodBot1> Seveas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <dr_willis> unless you added in some non-rareing repos by mistake
[09:03] <Seveas> sorry about that, my mouse got the better of me
[09:03] <dr_willis> but your originall error message mentioned nss i thouight  not udev
[09:03] <Phryq> maybe the error for installing Flash. I'll try that one
[09:04] <Seveas> Ponch0: what's the error you get?
[09:04] <Ponch0> Seveas: you're also having issues? I ended up with unity after upgarde!!! yuck! now, my mouse doesn't work at login aaand I login AS "gnome display manager"
[09:04] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7992431#1,5,8,10 there's the chromium error. It does mention libnss
[09:04] <gordonjcp> Ponch0: after upgrading from what?
[09:04] <resolutionprob> hi, i'm running ubuntu 12.04 lts with nvidia drivers, i'm stuck at 800x600 and i cant get my native res
[09:05] <Seveas> Ponch0: log in on a terminal, found out which new packages got installed (in /var/log/dpkg.log) and remove them
[09:05] <Abbas|> whats a good free video editor that i can use on windows also?
[09:05] <dr_willis> resolutionprob:  the   nvidia-settings tool does verify you are using the nvidia drivers?
[09:05] <resolutionprob> yes
[09:05] <dr_willis> Abbas|:  avidemux is handy
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Abbas|: kdenlive works pretty well