[08:30] <magespawn> brb reboot time
[08:37] <magespawn> good morning
[08:38] <Kilos> hi magespawn and everyone else
[08:48] <magespawn> hi Kilos, only two more days to midwinter
[08:48] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:48] <Kilos> so 4 till im old
[08:49] <Kilos> sigh
[09:07] <theblazehen> Wow, already :(
[09:07]  * theblazehen was waiting for cold to start
[09:17] <magespawn> shh theblazehen
[09:59] <pavlushka> a little quiet here, where have all the soldiers gone?
[09:59] <Kilos> resting
[10:00] <Kilos> and church and getting lunch ready
[10:00] <pavlushka> Kilos: I guessed so, but tell me that you are without flu, :p
[10:01] <Kilos> no man but its ok
[10:01] <Kilos> dont start the flu thing again
[10:01] <Kilos> im going doc on the 22nd
[10:04] <pavlushka> Its ok Kilos , just take it easy, sometimes I play the Big-brother role to my intimates, :p
[10:05] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:05] <Kilos> ty for caring
[10:06] <pavlushka> Kilos: get used to it, :p
[10:34] <magespawn> chat later all
[13:37] <magespawn> good afternoon
[13:37] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[13:39] <theblazehen> hi magespawn,Kilos
[13:39] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[13:49] <gremble> Good afternoon
[13:52] <magespawn> hi gremble
[13:56] <gremble> How are you magespawn?
[13:59] <magespawn> very good thanks gremble, and you?
[14:05] <gremble> I am alright thank you.
[14:10] <sakhi> afternoon #ubuntu-za
[14:11] <theblazehen> hi sakhi
[14:36] <theblazehen> hey pavlushka
[14:37] <pavlushka> ahoy theblazehen !
[14:37] <theblazehen> andrewlsd_q: When you try run docker in lxd, have a look at uids on the host as well as in the lxd container, I see that my one lxd root user is mapped as 1000000 on the host
[14:37] <theblazehen> Might give some info
[15:35] <paddatrapper> Evening everyone
[15:36] <gremble> Evening paddatrapper
[15:36] <paddatrapper> How you gremble?
[15:37] <gremble> Well thanks and yourself paddatrapper
[15:37] <paddatrapper> I'm good. Enjoying the rain
[15:38] <paddatrapper> We've so needed it
[15:38] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper gremble and others
[15:38] <paddatrapper> How things Kilos?
[15:39] <Kilos> still going so all good and there?
[15:39] <Kilos> hows the studies and exams gremble ?
[15:39] <paddatrapper> Warm at least
[15:39] <gremble> Last one is on tuesday, so almost done
[15:40] <Kilos> all the best lad
[15:40] <paddatrapper> gremble: When did you start? Seems like a long exam period
[15:40] <Kilos> have confidence in yourself and all will go well
[15:41] <Kilos> dont come here and say you wish you could understand maths
[15:41] <Kilos> 'come here smiling
[15:41] <gremble> paddatrapper, I started on the 4th I think. It is most of June and July.
[15:41] <gremble> Kilos, but I do wish I could understand. It would really help to get this degree if I could :P
[15:42] <Kilos> you can
[15:42] <paddatrapper> gremble: Ah Ok. Good luck with the last one then
[15:42] <gremble> paddatrapper, Thanks.
[15:42] <gremble> It is my favourite subject. also the one that it the most difficult. So I wish I had more time :P
[15:42] <Kilos> just look at everything from all the angles
[15:45] <Kilos> ask goosie, you learn that when you have only one eye, these look different from another angle
[15:45] <Kilos> things
[16:46] <Cryterion> evening everyone
[16:46] <Kilos> hi Cryterion
[16:46] <Cryterion> heya Kilos
[16:46] <Cryterion> hows things
[16:46] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[16:48] <Cryterion> all gud, just tired from a weekend with kids now, lol
[16:48] <Kilos> lol
[17:03] <pavlushka> Hellllo Cryterion !
[17:04] <Cryterion> heya pavlushka
[17:43] <pavlushka> Cryterion: how are you with kids?
[17:44] <pavlushka> Cryterion: its been a while without you here, :p
[17:58] <Cryterion> pavlushka, I'm good with kids, both mine are teenagers now
[17:59] <pavlushka> 0.0 I see.
[18:00] <Cryterion> divorced though, so only see them every 2nd weekend
[18:01] <Cryterion> anyway, have to go down the road for awhile, bb tomorrow
[18:01] <pavlushka> Cryterion: sure, looking forward to...:)
[18:02] <pavlushka> Cryterion: Have a nice night, :)
[18:18] <Kilos> wow Cryterion youre a ballie
[18:50] <Kilos> hi zeorin Xethron inetpro superfly theblazehen chesedo captine ambo_ and others
[18:50] <Kilos> greet quick i sleep soon
[18:50] <theblazehen> hey Kilos
[18:51] <Kilos> haha you the quickest
[18:51] <pavlushka> Kilos: I am second
[18:51] <Kilos> yip
[18:51] <pavlushka> but belongs to the others, :p
[18:51] <Kilos> others  all making like they are busy
[18:52] <Kilos> oh
[18:52] <pavlushka> yes, I am very busy, cant talk to you right now
[18:52] <Kilos> oh yes pavlushka paddatrapper magespawn MaNI gremble and more
[18:52] <pavlushka> if you have something to say email me, :p
[18:52] <Kilos> you busy with what pavlushka
[18:52] <Kilos> what?
[18:53] <Kilos> im the irc guy you remember pavlushka
[18:53] <pavlushka> nothing, I am just pretending, :p, though a bit studying.
[18:53] <Kilos> whats with the email stuff
[18:53] <Kilos> good lad study lots
[18:53] <magespawn> Hi Kilos
[18:54] <magespawn> can't say hi unless hi been said to
[18:54] <Kilos> ai!
[18:54] <pavlushka> magespawn: really?
[18:55] <MaNI> hi
[18:55] <Kilos> you getting like all the old time lurkers magespawn
[18:55] <Kilos> no ping no answer
[18:55] <pavlushka> magespawn: who forbid you to do that actually?
[18:55] <pavlushka> MaNI: Hi
[18:56]  * pavlushka gives voice to theblazehen ^^
[18:56] <pavlushka> ahoy
[18:57] <Kilos> lol
[18:58] <theblazehen> hey pavlushka
[18:58] <pavlushka> thatgraemeguy: So, your http is fixed?
[18:59] <magespawn> pavlushka: nobody, just joking, getting Kilos going
[18:59] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:59] <theblazehen> pavlushka: Yeah, it is
[18:59] <theblazehen> Had to reinstall pfsense
[19:00] <theblazehen> and part of backups (the broke part) was stil broke
[19:00]  * pavlushka it was supposed to be theblazehen instead of thatgraemeguy , ok take it as a revenge, :p
[19:00] <theblazehen> So had to re set evrythign
[19:00] <theblazehen> heh
[19:01] <pavlushka> magespawn: lol, a little late, :p
[19:03] <pavlushka> theblazehen: you mean that part is still broken?
[19:03] <theblazehen> pavlushka: Nah, did full reinstall, no restore from backup :(
[19:05] <pavlushka> theblazehen: just curious, what you run on your server? your personal mail server? and web server?
[19:06] <pavlushka> theblazehen: though you and magespawn had a long, very long talk on that, I had a very good sleep that night because of that, :p
[19:06] <theblazehen> pavlushka: Some web stuff, vms to test stuff, irc bouncer
[19:07] <theblazehen> pavlushka: http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/aer7vnua.ext list of containers
[19:10] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:10] <pavlushka> theblazehen: from whom you bought the domain? I am looking for a white listed free domain.
[19:10] <pavlushka> Kilos: good night
[19:11] <theblazehen> pavlushka: namecheap.com
[19:11] <pavlushka> theblazehen: is that the answer for both? you bought from there?
[19:16] <theblazehen> pavlushka: $10/year
[19:16] <theblazehen> $10.73 or something actuallyt
[19:18] <pavlushka> theblazehen: thanks really but I am not agreed to that deal at this moment, but noted.
[19:18] <theblazehen> pavlushka: Okay
[19:18] <theblazehen> check out .xyz domains
[19:18] <theblazehen> But they're not always whitelisted
[19:18] <pavlushka> copy
[19:20] <pavlushka> theblazehen: I am actually practicing experimenting , got a free hosting, now need a free domain.
[19:20] <pavlushka> white listed
[19:20] <theblazehen> pavlushka: Hosting where?
[19:21] <pavlushka> hostia
[19:22] <pavlushka> theblazehen: even if it will be for some months, will be ok.
[19:22] <pavlushka> but I know buying a good domain is better.
[19:23] <paddatrapper> pavlushka: Can you get a student pack from github? They include a .me domain from namecheap free for a year
[19:24] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: heard about that, already in Github for testing but not as student.
[19:24] <paddatrapper> Ah ok
[19:25] <paddatrapper> There's quite a lot in that pack that I'm really enjoying
[19:25] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: So I am stuck there in that case I guess.
[19:26] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: or still there's a way?
[19:27] <paddatrapper> pavlushka: You should be able to apply - all you need is an email address from an education institution. https://education.github.com/pack
[19:27] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: " email address from an education institution" like?
[19:28] <paddatrapper><EMAIL_ADDRESS>would be mine (UCT email address)
[19:29] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: and how you registered this email address?
[19:29] <paddatrapper> It's given to me by UCT because I'm registered there
[19:30] <magespawn> pavlushka paddatrapper you can also use AWS free for a year,does not include a domain though
[19:30] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: ok, your education institute has their own mail server then.
[19:30] <paddatrapper> The best I found was the $100 in DigitalOcean credit
[19:31] <paddatrapper> pavlushka: Yup, so if you're registered anywhere that gives you an email address that proves you are a student, use that
[19:31] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: ha ha ha, that's where I am stuck, :)
[19:33] <pavlushka> magespawn: I am looking for the domain actually, :)
[19:33] <paddatrapper> I see. You could try no-ip.me - they give free domains, but needs to be confirmed once a month, and may or may not be white listed - it is a subdomain of .ddns.net or .noip.me, or a few others
[19:33] <paddatrapper> I use it for a couple of things, with not much troble
[19:33] <paddatrapper> trouble
[19:35] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: I can have many subdomains or domains that are not white listed, no use, :(
[19:36] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: you see AudaciousTUX? he is using the Github students pack and a .me domain.
[19:37] <paddatrapper> Ok cool. I'm on the fence about using that .me domain... mainly because it will expire after a year and $18 is a lot... May just go with a $10 .com domain when I decide I actually need to
[19:40] <gremble> I have an 8USD .xyz domain
[19:41] <paddatrapper> gremble: I like the cost of that, also namecheap?
[19:41] <gremble> Yup
[19:41] <gremble> I like namecheap
[19:42] <paddatrapper> I certainly am starting to too!
[19:42] <gremble> I gave them shit about that .me thing for south african universities
[19:42] <pavlushka> Okay, may be I had to go with theblazehen 's advice but later when I have enough money to maintain a mastercard
[19:42] <gremble> It took them like a year to get it sorted, but they did
[19:42] <gremble> They were very polite and helpful
[19:42] <paddatrapper> lol
[19:43] <paddatrapper> Alright I'm off to bang some wood together and hope to create a 3D printer out of the resulting dust. Cheers!
[19:44] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: cheers!
[19:44] <paddatrapper> Actually let's go with CNC machine first...
[19:44] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: lol, anything you like, :p
[19:48] <pavlushka> and thanks gremble for participating in the talk, its always better with more numbers, appreciated.
[19:49] <gremble> pavlushka, always a pleasure. I just sort of jump into the conversation whenever I switch screens. I don't even know what you guys were talking about :P
[19:49] <pavlushka> lol
[19:51] <pavlushka> does anybody knows that Mohan Das Karam Chand Gandhi (The great leader of Subcontinent from India) started his LAW practice in SA?
[19:51] <pavlushka> *know
[20:19] <gremble> Don't think many people will know him by his full name
[20:23] <pavlushka> gremble: at least might catch up the "Gandhi" part!
[20:24] <pavlushka> oh he was Familiar with the name Mahatma Gandhi actually.
[20:29] <gremble> Yup
[20:30] <pavlushka> :)
[20:30] <pavlushka> Its Time to say Good night, see ya guys!
[20:45] <magespawn> good night all


[12:19] <signifer123> good day
[01:08] <qwizzztest> mhz: when you get back, the original semi-root user can log into the terminal even when it (the semi root usr) is logged into the server, and none of the users I create
[01:08] <qwizzztest> can login through the terminal machine at all.
[01:31] <qwizzztest> hi
[01:32] <qwizzztest> does read error: 110 mean you guys can't see me any more?
[01:52] <qwizzztest> Anybody here?
[01:52] <Lord_Athur> yes
[01:52] <Lord_Athur> me
[01:52] <Lord_Athur> :p
[01:52] <qwizzztest> :D
[01:53] <qwizzztest> I'm having some trouble with ltsp
[01:54] <qwizzztest> I can only log onto the terminal clients with the original user created during OS install.
[01:55] <Lord_Athur> :O
[01:55] <Lord_Athur> that wrong
[01:57] <Lord_Athur> can't you see gdm?
[01:58] <qwizzztest> ??
[02:00] <Lord_Athur> cannot you see any graphical applications? (the first to see is gdm(where you enter graphically))
[02:01] <Lord_Athur> i've to go
[04:43] <qwizzztest> hello?
[03:37] <juliux> ogra, what do you think about this? http://www.juliux.de/ubuntu/edubuntudvdcover.png
[03:39] <ogra> nice, but sadly doesnt gain us anything for dapper :)
[03:40] <jsgotangco> oohhh cd coverr
[03:43] <juliux> jsgotangco, no a cover for a dvd box
[03:43] <juliux> ogra, we also will make a dapper version
[03:43] <juliux> ogra, we will make edubuntu dvd boxes for the cebit
[03:44] <ogra> juliux, re: dapper version for DVD box, thats nice !
[03:45] <ogra> we'll pretty sure get the pressed install CD this time btw ...
[03:45] <juliux> cool
[03:45] <juliux> for the cebit we will burn dvds so we can give something about edubuntu away
[03:46] <ogra> yup
[03:55] <jsgotangco> grrr
[04:01] <ogra> nobody answers my call for serial mice testing :'-(
[04:02] <ogra> *sniff*
[04:03] <ogra> its one command to issue ... not really time consuming ...
[04:04] <ogra> but anyway if nobody answers with some data we wont have serial mouse support and i'll have less work to do ... fine even :)
[04:04] <jsgotangco> serial
[04:04] <jsgotangco> this laptop has no serial
[04:05] <jsgotangco> i wish it had
[04:06] <ogra> i think thats the point ... and thats why we have this longstanding bug since warty ...
[04:06] <jsgotangco> ogra, do you plan to go to linuxtag?
[04:06] <ogra> nobody has the equipment to even do tests
[04:07] <ogra> jsgotangco, it overlaps with some other stuff iirc (have forgotten what )
[04:07] <ogra> i'll surely be at FOSDEM
[04:07] <jsgotangco> err FOSDEM is too soon
[04:07] <ogra> but FOSDEM doesnt clash with my dates
[04:09] <jsgotangco> i still have a serial mouse somewhere downstairs but i doubt if it still works
[04:21] <spacey> i don't have any serial stuff either
[04:21] <spacey> why do people insist using such stuff
[04:33] <ogra> many users of thin clients in poorer countries do ...
[04:34] <ogra> but its solved for LTSP already ...
[04:34] <ogra> mdz just asked if i could solve it for the whole distro and add automatic detection
[04:35] <jsgotangco> are you still in london?
[04:36] <ogra> yup
[04:36] <ogra> until tomorrow
[04:39] <jsgotangco> ahh goodie
[05:14] <dungodung> I've just installed Edubuntu
[05:14] <dungodung> but my mp3s and videos won't play
[05:14] <dungodung> are there codecs I should install?
[05:15] <ogra> dungodung, see the RestrictedFormats page on wiki.edubuntu.org
[05:16] <dungodung> will do
[05:51] <dungodung> how do I go about installing a .rpm?
[06:05] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: sorry, it's been 4 years since I used rpm
[06:06] <mhz_dinner> but i guess you could do $sudo apt-cache search rpm
[06:06] <dungodung> then why do they exist?
[06:06] <mhz_dinner> rpm = are for redhat based packages
[06:07] <dungodung> oh
[06:07] <mhz_dinner> while deb = debian based packages
[06:07] <mhz_dinner> they are already packaged for each distro
[06:07] <dungodung> so ubuntu is based on debian, right
[06:07] <dungodung> ?
[06:07] <dungodung> which means that I shouldn't use rpms?
[06:07] <mhz_dinner> however, you can always download the 'source' package (usually tar.gz) and compile it for your own needs
[06:08] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: it means unless you know what you are doing, you don't need to use rpms
[06:08] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: there is a Package Manager called Synaptics
[06:08] <dungodung> I know that
[06:08] <mhz_dinner> use it to search for applications you need
[06:09] <mhz_dinner> and it will install it for you taking care of dependencies and updating your system
[06:10] <dungodung> but synaptic doesn't have what I want
[06:10] <dungodung> e.g. amarok, mplayer, pptpconfig, some codecs
[06:11] <mhz_dinner> ohhh, it does
[06:11] <mhz_dinner> you need to enable it to look for those packages in the other repositories
[06:11] <dungodung> not edubuntu
[06:12] <dungodung> and I can't connect to internet yet over edubuntu
[06:12] <dungodung> so I have to download some packages from WinXP for now
[06:12] <mhz_dinner> ohhh
[06:12] <mhz_dinner> i see
[06:12] <dungodung> I hope pptpconfig enables my wireless connection
[06:13] <mhz_dinner> :D then it is not a problem of your APT manager but you connecting to web ?
[06:13] <dungodung> and how do I install anything
[06:13] <dungodung> ?
[06:13] <dungodung> make install?
[06:13] <mhz_dinner> depends...
[06:13] <mhz_dinner> if you get your .deb packages
[06:14] <mhz_dinner> you run $ dpkg -i the_package.deb
[06:14] <mhz_dinner> I guess synaptics can do that for you too
[06:16] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: however, the easiest and fastest way (and more safe) is to get your edubuntu box connected to web
[06:16] <dungodung> well that
[06:16] <dungodung> well that's what I'm trying
[06:16] <mhz_dinner> but I have never used wi-fi yet
[06:16] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: any chances you can try with cables?
[06:16] <dungodung> mhz_dinner: I found pptpconfig.rpm...
[06:17] <dungodung> mhz_dinner: cables?
[06:17] <dungodung> my ISP suggested that I should buy a router (50E)
[06:17] <dungodung> and I don't feel like spending that much money
[06:17] <dungodung> the other option is pptpconfig and I can't seem to find the appropriate one
[06:18] <mhz_dinner> hehehe
[06:18] <mhz_dinner> they hardly know more than any enduser
[06:18] <dungodung> well, with my ISP, it should be NEVER^n (n->inf.)
[06:18] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: can you tell us your network environment layout?
[06:19] <dungodung> network environment layout? what would that be?
[06:19] <dungodung> :}
[06:19] <mhz_dinner> example:   ISP -> cable Modem -> home-server -> swithc -> boxes
[06:20] <dungodung> oh
[06:20] <dungodung> ISP -> antenna on my roof -> some cables -> my computer (ethernet - wifi)
[06:22] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: and your edubuntu box 'must' use wi-fi? can't it be ethernet cable while we get all you need?
[06:22] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: ooh, you have only one computer?
[06:22] <dungodung> yes
[06:22] <dungodung> I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31516
[06:23] <mhz_dinner> and those "some cables" what are for?
[06:25] <dungodung> for connecting wifi with the antenna
[06:25] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: simple..  add the following to your repository.
[06:26] <mhz_dinner> deb http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/ pptpconfig/
[06:26] <mhz_dinner> deb http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/ php-gtk/
[06:26] <dungodung> and the one for electricity
[06:26] <dungodung> how do I add to repository?
[06:26] <mhz_dinner> can we use a terminal?
[06:26] <dungodung> well I'm in windows
[06:26] <mhz_dinner> ohh
[06:27] <mhz_dinner> so that box is dualboot?
[06:27] <dungodung> and I don't, obviously, have internet in linus
[06:27] <dungodung> *x
[06:27] <dungodung> yes, I'm having grub manage linux/win
[06:28] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: donwload http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/pptp-linux-1.5.0.tar.gz
[06:28] <mhz_dinner> to your guindouz box
[06:28] <dungodung> ok...
[06:28] <dungodung> done
[06:29] <mhz_dinner> get that tar.gz to your linux HD /home partition
[06:29] <mhz_dinner> (usb stick, floppy, cd, somewhow ) :D
[06:30] <mhz_dinner> oooppp, sorry,
[06:30] <dungodung> I can access the files from linux
[06:30] <mhz_dinner> family forcing me to have lunch
[06:30] <dungodung> it's ntfs, but I found a way
[06:30] <dungodung> ok, you go on
[06:30] <dungodung> I'll manage
[06:30] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: you'll have to compile it
[06:30] <dungodung> bon apetit
[06:30] <dungodung> how?
[06:32] <mhz_dinner> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wifi&titlesearch=Titles
[06:32] <mhz_dinner> in that wiki, you'll find tons of useful info
[06:32] <mhz_dinner> to compile
[06:32] <mhz_dinner> or maybe even pptpconfig
[06:33] <dungodung> allright
[06:33] <dungodung> thank you VERY much
[06:33] <dungodung> now, go eat ;))
[06:33] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: you also have
[06:33] <mhz_dinner> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wifi&titlesearch=Titles
[06:33] <mhz_dinner> sorry
[06:33] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: you also have pptp-linux
[06:34] <mhz_dinner> i guess that is included in the CD
[06:34] <mhz_dinner> so maybe even you already have it
[06:34] <mhz_dinner> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/mppeVPNhowto?highlight=%28pptpconfig%29
[06:35] <mhz_dinner> dungodung: thx
[06:35] <dungodung> :D
[10:34] <signifer123> hello
[10:55] <Lord_Athur> hi signifer123