[00:01] <SlidingHorn> vivus: I believe the file you're looking for is in /boot/
[00:01] <vivus> SlidingHorn: checked there, it's empty?
[00:03] <SlidingHorn> /boot/ cannot be empty
[00:04] <vivus> ls -la "total 8" and only `.` and `..` are shown
[00:06] <winny> Hello, i want to modify the message prompted to users when their password expires and they are required to change it, which pam module is responsible for this mechanism?
[00:08] <vivus> winny: which version of ubuntu?
[00:09] <winny> 16.04.4 LTS
[00:10] <winny> i'm talking about when logging in through console/ssh
[00:29] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have kernel 4.13.0-36-generichow can I downgrade to a 4.4 kernel?
[00:32] <Sleaker> if it's available for your distro you might be able to downgrade
[00:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have ubuntu Ubuntu 17.10
[00:33] <xamithan> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.4.111/
[00:35] <MDTech-us_MAN> how can I set it as the default kernel?
[00:40] <slavplay> hey
[00:41] <slavplay> hey
[00:51] <MrF4ck3d> hi😊
[00:53] <Marquezini> 18.04 already finished?
[00:54] <u0_a179> hi
[00:55] <SlidingHorn>  Marquezini: It is scheduled for release on Thursday (Apr 26)
[00:55] <BionicMac> Anyone know of alternatives to 'mbpfan' or 'macfanctld' for controlling the fan on an iMac? I am curious if these are the only choices for controlling my fan here on an iMac. 'mbpfan' surely works and the code has been updated far more recently than 'macfanctld'.
[00:55] <BionicMac> I'm just looking for options.
[00:58] <BionicMac> I just installed mbpfan adn sure enough my fan stepped up from 1200 rpm to 2000 rpm right away. Configuring is not bad at all. Just making sure I m using the most effective tool here.
[01:11] <bj_> hey
[01:13] <bj_> hey all
[01:57] <coolchris> hello
[01:57] <coolchris> what time will the new ubuntu be released
[01:59] <leftyfb> coolchris: the time is never announced
[01:59] <leftyfb> !bionic | coolchris
[02:01] <coolchris> should i stay awake and waio
[02:01] <coolchris> and wait for 2 days or so
[02:03] <coolchris> can the bionic beaver fly?
[02:03] <coolchris> we should debate what powers he has
[02:03] <leftyfb> coolchris: trolling is off topic
[02:04] <coolchris> ok sorry i was joking
[02:04] <leftyfb> !support | coolchris
[02:12] <RoadRunner> where would I get a list of Ubuntu keyboard shortcuts?
[02:16] <SlidingHorn> RoadRunner: for what?  different applications, DE's WM's etc all have their own shortcuts
[02:16] <akk> The first time I booted this new 16.04 install there was a big list of them displayed, but it went away when I brought up a terminal.
[02:17] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: I mean Ubuntu OS itself, not specific apps
[02:18] <SlidingHorn> RoadRunner: okay...which DE/WM?
[02:19] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: I am running Xubuntu 16.04
[02:19] <leftyfb> RoadRunner: then that is very specific to XFCE which is what Xubuntu runs by default
[02:20] <leftyfb> RoadRunner: after searching google for "xfce keyboard shortcuts" this was the 3rd main link on the page http://xahlee.info/linux/linux_xfce_keyboard_shortcuts.html
[02:20] <SlidingHorn> RoadRunner: okay, so XFCE - try going to your Settings Manager > Window Manager > Keyboard tab
[02:27] <RoadRunner> leftyfb: SlidingHorn: thank you; that gives me the general direction; one thing I am trying to track down specificaly is the action of  Ctrl-Alt-F1 on Xubuntu's LiveCD. I know that it throws me from GUI to terminal, but I wonder if there is more to it than that
[02:29] <Goop> is there a way to modify the Ubuntu live image?
[02:29] <leftyfb> RoadRunner: CTRL+ALT+F1, F2, F3 etc are built into linux to switch you to TTY's. They are completely Desktop Environment agnostic. No amount of keyboard shortcut settings will change those
[02:29] <leftyfb> Goop: yes
[02:32] <Goop> What I'm trying to do is have an image that resets itself every system reboot. I also want the user to never be required to set their username/password, or type in one, have that nice auto login that the "try Ubuntu without installing". The thing is, I want to permanantly install VirtualBox, Java (default-jre), and auto-mount a virtual hard drive that connects to a server, so they can save their files elsewhere.
[02:32] <Goop> I can figure out all of that, except I don't know how to get it to save.
[02:33] <akk> Goop: I haven't done that in a long time, but google ubuntu live persistent and you might find some examples.
[02:34] <akk> Oh, maybe add the ubuntu release you're using because the answer might change with version.
[02:34] <Goop> Is there a way to load two images onto a flash drive--one for 32 bit and one for 64 bit processors?
[02:36] <kus> anyone here know how to figure out mariadb on artful? I must be doing something wrong https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/psZHpkPmxT/
[02:37] <Goop> kus, what is artful?
[02:38] <Goop> I know what Mariadb is, but I've never heard of artful. I've been around the block a few times with mariadb.
[02:38] <SlidingHorn> Goop: artful is the code name for Ubuntu 17.10
[02:38] <SlidingHorn> kus: what exactly are you trying to do?  (haven't read the pastebin yet)
[02:40] <Goop> kus, this doesn't tell us much. Is this your first install?
[02:42] <kus> I am trying to run wordpress locally
[02:46] <Goop> akk, Okay, so it shows me here about reserving part of the drive for persistence, but what I don't know how I would access this dedicated persistence.
[02:46] <akk> Goop: Back when I last did it, which was probably 6 years ago, if you made the persistent partition it would see it when you booted.
[02:46] <akk> And distros like puppy linux that are set up for persistence seem to do it that way, automatically.
[02:48] <Goop> So it wouldn't reimage itself, it would check the persistent directory (I'm calling it that) for deltas then render those for the user.
[02:50] <akk> I believe that under the hood it's implemented as an overlay, so any changes to the base filesystem get written there.
[02:51] <akk> Or at least, was 6 or so years ago, not that I know now (you know more than I do if you've read the pages google brought up).
[02:57] <RoadRunner> leftyfb: so ,if  TTY's provide a virtual interface, what is the purpose of this in these rescue instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure  ?
[03:00] <Goop> What's Lubuntu's official site domain?
[03:00] <Goop> I see lubuntu.me, lubuntu.net
[03:02] <krytarik> Goop: "/topic #lubuntu"
[03:02] <ThiagoCMC> Will Ubuntu drop Xen hypervisor?
[03:05] <RoadRunner> leftyfb: I mean, if you've already booted a liveCD into a GUI, why not just open a terminal window and work there rather than have CTRL+ALT+F1 throw you out of GUI and have you locked out with a login password...?
[03:39] <jeffreylevesque> does this trace indicate that something in ubuntu repo is broken - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/2935#issuecomment-384149635?
[03:40] <jeffreylevesque> some of the error links do not exist
[03:41] <conjo_> hi all am on 16.04 i was wondering if s1 could explain to me why my interface (ethernet) isnt named eth0 like most webpages list re ifconfig output.
[03:41] <conjo_> i only have one ethernet and am not on network just conn to my router
[03:42] <conjo_> direct to internet
[03:43] <jmw> conjo_ what's it called
[03:43] <conjo_> enp6s0
[03:43] <jmw> conjo_: systemd changed how they get named https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[03:44] <conjo_> thank you for the link
[03:46] <conjo_> will using vpn (openvpn --config) and changing macc address affect my interface naming?
[03:48] <jmw> conjo_: don't think so, since enp6s0 is based on where it is in the mainboard's PCI device enumeration
[03:49] <conjo_> could you please dumb the above down just a little
[03:49] <conjo_> ;)
[03:50] <conjo_> "pci device enumeratioin" specifically please
[03:52] <jmw> conjo_: "p0s6" is a description of where the ethernet hardware is connected, so the mac address isn't going to change that
[03:52] <conjo_> thanks very much
[03:53] <jmw> if you have an actual ethernet card that goes in a pci slot instead of being built in, moving it around to a different slot would rename it
[04:02] <tripelb> so this guy tells me that in Windows as soon as he gets up to a gig of memory in the browser which is lots of tabs his system just locks up and that this is a constant problem in Windows for a lot of people. He has a quad-core machine and 4 gigs of RAM. he uses Firefox but for some reason can't use the newest version he says. -- will the same thing happen in Ubuntu?
[04:02] <tripelb> he says that firefox can only use a single core
[04:05] <Goop> Okay, so if I make a live Ubuntu image and enable persistence can I make changes to the live image (from the live image), then make the persistent drive write-protected (I'd have to Google the 'write-protected' part, never done it before).
[04:06] <Goop> Is that correct/
[04:09] <D00msd4y> 1
[04:09] <D00msd4y> exit
[04:09] <D00msd4y> quit
[04:14] <DeusExMaximum> I am looking for help with the i3 Window Manager on Ubuntu. What I'm looking to do as of right now is make it so that I can change the dimmensions of the windows individually and specifically by width and by height, and make it so that I can move them around using keybinds.
[04:14] <DeusExMaximum> There's some other stuff I want to do but I thought I'd start there.
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> DeusExMaximum: did you find the i3 channel?
[04:14] <DeusExMaximum> I can give you a screenshot of what my setup looks like to give you an idea of what I'm doing right now.
[04:14] <DeusExMaximum> Oh... no, I didn't. Sorry.
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> DeusExMaximum: try their channel #i3
[04:23] <d00msd4y> ..
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> d00msd4y: can we help you?
[04:30] <rangergord> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04. According to https://askubuntu.com/questions/339255/how-do-i-make-man-pages-open-in-a-web-browser   , I should be able to open a manpage in a browser by running "BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox man --html ls". However, when I do this, FF gives me a File Not Found error. The URL is a tmp file that doesn't exist.
[04:32] <rangergord> if I just run "man --html ls", it works (but it opens in links, a CLI browser)
[04:33] <SlidingHorn> rangergord: that source is 5 years old...chances are it's a little outdated...
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> rangergord: manpages you can just google too
[04:33] <rangergord> lotuspsychje: too inconvenient on slow connections, which is usually my case
[04:34] <rangergord> but if no one knows how to solve this, then that's OK, no big deal
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> rangergord: what do you want, to see manpages a betetr way?
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> rangergord: manpage is already in your terminal right?
[04:35] <rangergord> yeah
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> rangergord: make your terminal syntax higlight or theme, then bigger font, and you get a fancy manpage
[04:38] <paddy> skype keeps opening links in chromium even though I have firefox as my default
[04:38] <rangergord> guess I don
[04:38] <rangergord> dont have much of a choice :)
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> rangergord: you could try links2 too
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> rangergord: see if your method let open links2
[04:41] <DeusExMaximum> Does anyone know a really good/aesthetic/rice terminal? I'm using xterm right now with i3 but I see some really cool ones that are multicolored used by Arch users.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> DeusExMaximum: ubuntu 16.04 got more themes now in settings
[04:42] <rangergord> links2 is the one that works (default when I dont specify a browser). The issue is that man seems to rmdir the /tmp/<random> directory it puts the html file is, before FF has a chance to open it. When it opens with links, I can see the tmp file as long as I dont close links.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> DeusExMaximum: check also solarized theme for terminal
[04:42] <SlidingHorn> DeusExMaximum: any terminal can be riced...I'm a urxvt fan, personally, but it's completely subjective
[04:43] <gbellinoz1> riced?
[04:43] <SlidingHorn> gbellinoz1: it's a slang term for theming...
[04:43] <gbellinoz1> from small Japanese car mods in the 1990s?
[04:43] <SlidingHorn> yep
[04:44] <SlidingHorn> no effect on performance, but it looks cool!  lol
[04:44] <rangergord> lotuspsychje: elinks works as well. It's Firefox. What's some other FOSS browser I could apt install to try? The smaller the better
[04:44] <gbellinoz1> wow.  computer people are still trying hard to be cool.
[04:44] <DeusExMaximum> This is what my setup looks like right now.
[04:44] <DeusExMaximum> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308802963491520513/434521130464706613/Screenshot_from_2018-04-13_18-11-26.png
[04:44] <DeusExMaximum> Yeah. But what can you do. I like it.
[04:44] <DeusExMaximum> Besides, it makes me "feel" efficient. And that counts for something.
[04:44] <gbellinoz1> I'm amazed that people can deal with transparent terminals.
[04:45] <DeusExMaximum> I love them.
[04:45] <gbellinoz1> The first time I mistook a single quote for double quote I was done.
[04:45] <SlidingHorn> we're getting a bit off topic though
[04:45] <SlidingHorn> let's stick to support
[04:45] <DeusExMaximum> Sorry.
[04:45] <rangergord> DeusExMaximum: can you take a normal size screenshot? Can't see anything on that
[04:45] <DeusExMaximum> I was looking for a terminal. If this isn't the chat for that, then I'll have to leave.
[04:45] <gbellinoz1> DeusExMaximum: do you like gnome-terminal?
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel for chitchat
[04:46] <DeusExMaximum> Absolutely not. Unless it's modifyable, which I have yet to discover it's strength. I'm using xterm. Don't know why that screenshot isn't working out for you. Let me take another and upload it to imgur.
[04:47] <paddy> can anyone reccomend a good webcam program? just for fun. cheese barely has anything and mirroring is one of the filters
[04:48] <DeusExMaximum> Here you go.
[04:48] <DeusExMaximum> https://imgur.com/a/5ygxo8r
[04:48] <DeusExMaximum> See if that works.
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> paddy: cheese
[04:49] <paddy> cheese barely has anything and mirroring is one of the filters
[04:50] <SlidingHorn> paddy: well you haven't provided any required features, so it's kind of ridiculous to recommend anything other than the standard
[04:50] <SlidingHorn> we're not mind readers
[04:50] <DeusExMaximum> paddy: you could use obs
[04:51] <paddy> SlidingHorn: I mean in the original statement I said not cheese
[04:51] <paddy> but yeah
[04:51] <DeusExMaximum> Though that's a bit more on the techinical side.
[04:51] <paddy> just lots of filters and be able to mirror on the all the filters
[04:51] <SlidingHorn> a simple google search brought up at least 10 different options in the first link
[04:52] <paddy> the askubuntu page?
[04:52] <paddy> because I've google'd it already
[04:52] <SlidingHorn> okay...then what else do you want?  This isn't a software recommendation channel
[04:52] <DeusExMaximum> Hey does anyone know a super minimalistic writing program for conventional everyday writing? I'd like to write just in the terminal but even vim and gedit have visual distractions. What I'm looking for is something with zero visual distractions.
[04:53] <DeusExMaximum> I used to use focuswriter but it's finnicky.
[04:53] <SlidingHorn> DeusExMaximum: nano
[04:53] <DeusExMaximum> Hold on.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> paddy: see also: apt-cache search webcam
[04:53] <DeusExMaximum> Even nano has visuals
[04:53] <DeusExMaximum> Is there a way to turn them off?
[04:53] <paddy> SlidingHorn: I don't get why you're being so caty, fine if it's inappropiate to ask for a rec here but man the snide
[04:54] <shadow98> hey guys trying to run Macchanger on latest ubuntu it works and changes the wlan to a random Mac but the interface when brought back up will not reconnect to wifi
[04:54] <shadow98> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/macchanger-utility-for-manipulating-the-mac-address-of-network-interfaces-included-gui-utility.html
[04:55] <SlidingHorn> paddy: you get what you give.
[04:55] <shadow98> I also tried to run network-manager stop as suggested in comment and that is no longer a command in latest ubuntu
[04:55] <paddy> SlidingHorn: I ask for a reccomendation and the infamous linux elitism comes out. petty and pathetic
[04:55] <DeusExMaximum> Looking for a very aesthetic terminal. Using xterm right now.
[04:56] <SlidingHorn> paddy: regardless, this isn't a software recommendation channel.  If you'd like to argue and moan about how "mean" i was, feel free to see me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:57] <paddy> DuesExMaximum: urxtv is pretty customizable and if you're willing to put work in
[04:57] <SlidingHorn> DeusExMaximum: again, any terminal emulator can be themed.  I agree with paddy's recommendation of urxvt personally
[04:58] <btp> http://thedarnedestthing.com/distraction%20free%20vim
[04:58] <DeusExMaximum> Thanks for the recommendation.
[04:59] <SlidingHorn> shadow98: try    sudo systemctl restart network-manager instead
[05:00] <paddy> SlidingHorn: is there an ubuntu software reccomendation channel?
[05:00] <SlidingHorn> paddy: try #ubuntu-offtopic or *possibly* #ubuntu-discuss...though the second may be off topic for that purpose...not 100%
[05:01] <paddy> SlidingHorn: thanks
[05:02] <DeusExMaximum> whenever I look up urxvt it only shows "rxvt"
[05:02] <DeusExMaximum> What does that mean?
[05:02] <SlidingHorn> DeusExMaximum: sorry, rxvt-unicode is the actual package name
[05:03] <NayNay> OK so I just did an update of 16.04 and all of a sudden my non-privileged user seems to have macgically lost his Administrator status.
[05:03] <SlidingHorn> DeusExMaximum: it will look ugly and basic when you first load it...it'll take some reading to get it themed nicely
[05:03] <SlidingHorn> NayNay: update *to* 16.04?
[05:04] <NayNay> update IN 16.04
[05:04] <SlidingHorn> NayNay: okay....what did you update?
[05:04] <NayNay> just a software update
[05:04] <SlidingHorn> NayNay: ...of what?
[05:04] <NayNay> of the system. Software Updater
[05:04] <SlidingHorn> NayNay: that could have been 1 application or hundreds.
[05:05] <shadow98> SlidingHorn: thank you brb I will try
[05:05] <NayNay> well you'd think that somethingupdated that screwed with policykit, because now it is throwing a fit trying to mount USB drives
[05:06] <shadow98> SlidingHorn: unit network.service not found
[05:06] <NayNay> instead of getting the option to restart of shutdown from unity, I can now only get lock and logout
[05:06] <NayNay> also ethernet is not starting automatically
[05:06] <NayNay> I presume I now need privileges to do all these things - which I had already until a system update
[05:07] <NayNay> I can look in the unity users&Groups in the seetings, and all seems in order, but of course I can't change any settings because guess why?
[05:08] <DeusExMaximum> SlidingHorn: dang, I downloaded "rxvt"
[05:09] <SlidingHorn> shadow98: Apologies:    sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager.service
[05:09] <SlidingHorn> DeusExMaximum: no worries - you should just be able to sudo apt remove rxvt && sudo apt install rxvt-unicode
[05:10] <SlidingHorn> NayNay: there's really no way for me to figure out what happened without knowing what was updated.
[05:11] <NayNay> I think it's safe to say that polkit was affected
[05:11] <SlidingHorn> NayNay: I don't think it's safe to assume anything
[05:12] <NayNay> what else could have knocked by user around like that?
[05:12] <NayNay> I am seeing policykit errors when trying to mount USB devices
[05:12] <NayNay> is there any way of cleaning this up?
[05:13] <NayNay> sudo to root is fine. I can do things there, but unity is stuffed like this....
[05:13] <SlidingHorn> NayNay: you're not providing anything useful
[05:13] <NayNay> neither are you as it turns out
[05:15] <SlidingHorn> NayNay: I'm not asking someone to diagnose a problem on my system and giving no information.
[05:16] <NayNay> I just *gave* you  information... but clearly you want to be difficult. That's fine. Have a nice day.
[05:19] <Skaface82> hey ive just tried installing android-tools-adb via apt-get, and its saying the hash does not match
[05:19] <SlidingHorn> Skaface82: is this from a PPA?
[05:20] <shadow98> SlidingHorn: that worked now to see if after running macchanger it works
[05:20] <Skaface82> android-libadb_7.0.0+r33-2_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[05:20] <Skaface82> sorry what do you mean from a PPA?
[05:20] <SlidingHorn> Skaface82: what flavor and version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:21] <eraserpencil> Why do I have /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd, /dev/sde, /dev/sdf when I plug in a microSD card? I've been trying to remove and delete them
[05:21] <eraserpencil> they have no size details except for /dev/sdf
[05:21] <SlidingHorn> eraserpencil: those are automatic place-holder names for storage devices (sd...) that you're adding and/or removing from the system
[05:22] <Skaface82> ubuntu 17.1
[05:22] <genii> Skaface82: It's not often that it happens, but once in a while between the time that you get a list from apt-get update and the time you install something, the hash sum from update has changed due to the file being different ( newly uploaded usually). Or else you didn't run apt-get update before installing
[05:22] <NeonLight118> hello
[05:22] <eraserpencil> SlidingHorn: anyway to not have them?
[05:22] <Skaface82> yeah ive tried apt-get update first and that made no difference
[05:23] <NeonLight118> who's here from Toronto ?
[05:24] <SlidingHorn> NeonLight118: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[05:25] <Skaface82> it would be interesting if someone else could try to install it who is running the same version ubuntu as me?
[05:27] <SlidingHorn> Skaface82: try this:    sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update     then try to install
[05:27] <NeonLight118> SlidingHorn: my main concern is that quite often I would use internet connection and I'm forced to reconnect
[05:27] <NeonLight118> loose*
[05:28] <Pestovc> What
[05:28] <Skaface82> SlidingHorn: i just tried that and I have the same issue
[05:28] <srukle> When will Ubuntu 18.04 be released?
[05:28] <genii> srukle: Tomorrow
[05:28] <genii> Meaning Thursday
[05:29] <srukle> genii: ok thanks
[05:30] <genii> srukle: Sometime in the afternoon UK time, usually
[05:30] <SlidingHorn> Skaface82: are you having issues installing any other packages?  Also, please post the output of the following:    cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[05:31] <shadow98> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/183489/changing-the-hostname-on-a-linux-mint-desktop-to-a-random-value-at-boot-time
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> genii: can we talk in discuss plz
[05:32] <shadow98> I tried hostname "$new" and it failed to randomize the hostname
[05:32] <Skaface82> no, I have had no other issues installing packages
[05:32] <Skaface82> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xYq5BzYfg7/
[05:32] <SlidingHorn> shadow98: what version are you using again?
[05:33] <shadow98> latest download 17.10.1
[05:33] <genii> lotuspsychje: I don't generally hang in there, and I have to leave soon
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> genii: yeah i know was just a quick proposal
[05:35] <sky887> !itssoonout
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> !party > sky887
[05:37] <SlidingHorn> Skaface82: I'm thinking that the mirror you're using is having issues?  try opening the Ubuntu software center, click the Edit menu > "Software Sources" and click the "Software" tab - try selecting a different mirror from the dropdown list
[05:37] <SlidingHorn> Skaface82: ("Download from")
[05:37] <shadow98> SlidingHorn: latest download 17.10.1
[05:38] <SlidingHorn> shadow98: I saw...just trying to help multiple people at once...please try to be patient.
[05:39] <shadow98> SlidingHorn: yes I just realized I had not put your nick some people have IRC setup to notify them on response so I wanted to make sure it wasn't missed.
[05:39] <SlidingHorn> no worries shadow98  :)
[05:41] <Skaface82> SlidingHorn: thank you ill try changing to the main ubuntu server rather than the au mirror
[05:41] <Skaface82> ill let you know how i go
[05:41] <SlidingHorn> Skaface82: good luck
[05:42] <SlidingHorn> shadow98: are you using the macchanger-gtk  GUI?
[05:42] <SlidingHorn> (this isn't an application I've ever used, so I'm just as new with it as you are, FYI...)
[05:43] <shadow98> SlindingHorn: no command line trying to make this into a script
[05:43] <Skaface82> SlidingHorn: that worked, thanks for your help :)
[05:46] <SlidingHorn> Skaface82: glad it worked...you may want to try the au repos again later...they may just be having issues
[05:48] <SlidingHorn> shadow98: I'm not seeing anything in the macchanger manpage about changing the hostname
[05:49] <shadow98> SlindingHorn: yeah trying to do it with the hostname command built into linux but randomize it
[05:49] <SlidingHorn> shadow98: ah, that's probably beyond my scope
[05:49] <shadow98> no worries
[05:50] <Norux> Hi :)
[05:56] <SemiControl> Does doing history -c completely destroys history and its not recoverable ?
[05:59] <lolipolp> +
[05:59] <lolipolp> hi everyone
[06:00] <lolipolp> anybody here?
[06:00] <EriC^^> !ask | lolipolp
[06:02] <mast> Mother of God I just spent two hours trying to figure out why my NFS shares would not mount at boot... and it turns out I just left out a number from the IP address
[06:02] <mast> I am the smartest man alive
[06:03] <mikahe> 這是啥
[06:04] <SlidingHorn> !cn | mikahe
[06:05] <mikahe> interesting
[06:07] <mikahe> how to join a new channel
[06:07] <mikahe> just like #linuxba
[06:07] <SlidingHorn> mikahe: /join #linuxba
[06:08] <mikahe> thanks
[06:08] <mikahe> is work
[06:25] <kab0m> hi together
[06:25] <gogeta> kab0m, wana fight about it
[06:25] <gogeta> lol
[06:26] <kab0m> gogeta: fight about what? ^^
[06:27] <gogeta> kab0m, dunno we will think of something
[06:27] <emr> Hello, i'm getting error when i restart netfilter service here is the log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FqYbxW4xPd/
[06:27] <emr> any ideas?
[06:27] <kab0m> lulz...atm i fight about a bug i have with 18.04 ^^ maybe you can help with that gogeta
[06:28] <gogeta> kab0m, if your talking about the memery leak not mutch can be done atm
[06:29] <kab0m> Nope, i talk about the bug "error while loading shared libraries: libzstd.so.1" while running "apt-get upgrade" with the 18.04 Beta
[06:37] <sky887> SemiColor
[06:37] <mikahe> 啥
[06:42] <SlidingHorn> mikahe: english only in here, please.
[06:53] <wyseguy> hey all
[06:54] <Norux> hi wyseguy
[06:55] <DeusExMaximum> Hey how do I change the default file manager that comes up when I want to, say, add an image to the chat in Discord or something?
[06:55] <wyseguy> have a ssh key on root, logged in made a new user, changed sshd_config and turned off root login and changed ssh port, restarted the sshd service and logged out, now trying to log in as new user and its asking for a password... not sure why, public key should let me in
[06:55] <wyseguy> Norux yo
[06:55] <wyseguy> DeusExMaximum sorry dont know, no gui here :p
[06:55] <Norux> DeusExMaximum: https://askubuntu.com/questions/84929/how-to-set-up-dolphin-as-default-file-manager
[06:55] <demahum> Bionic final release should be out tomorrow. Is there an exact hour for that?
[06:56] <SlidingHorn> demahum: no time - just some time on the 26th
[06:56] <demahum> SlidingHorn: phew, ok, thanks.
[06:57] <wyseguy> i didnt add the key to the new user home folder lol, well hell
[06:58] <wyseguy> now im locked out haha, time to delete the VM and spin up a new one
[06:58] <Norux> Is there a changelog for the "old" beta versions?
[06:59] <shadow98> how do you show hidden files in the file mgr in the latest version
[06:59] <wyseguy> oh nm, was able to get in through KVM :)
[07:00] <sky887> How do you show hidden files in the files? The x-files
[07:00] <Norux> shadow98: as far as I know, Strg+H
[07:01] <Norux> Ctrl+H outside of germany, that is :D
[07:03] <wyseguy> okay i created a ssh key on an ubuntu server and i can only log in as root, i'm going to disable root but i need to copy the key over to the new user that i created... ssh-copy-id command?
[07:04] <DeusExMaximum> Norux: I can't seem to get it to work. I bring up the file manager to search for the application and I can't find ranger. Is ranger possible to use in this manner?
[07:04] <Triffid_Hunter> wyseguy: why not make a new key?
[07:04] <DeusExMaximum> Ranger doesn't seem to have a .desktop file.
[07:04] <wyseguy> Triffid_Hunter digital ocean...
[07:05] <wyseguy> easier if i just copy it, should be easy...
[07:05] <Norux> DeusExMaximum: look for it in the terminal, using `ls -la`
[07:05] <Triffid_Hunter> wyseguy: afaik ssh-copy-id just does cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh me@server 'cat - >> .ssh/authorized_keys' or so, it's not for moving a private key from one account to another and renaming it on the way
[07:06] <ducasse> DeusExMaximum: you would need to create a desktop file that launches ranger in a terminal
[07:06] <wyseguy> thinking it would be like ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/mykey user@unifi
[07:06] <wyseguy> ya but you can cat it over to a user like a echo type of command, thought ssh-copy-id would do that
[07:07] <wyseguy> let's see if i break it :p
[07:08] <Triffid_Hunter> wyseguy: the thing is then your authorized_keys on the server will list a key from one user@machine but you'll actually be using it from a different<EMAIL_ADDRESS>might work once or twice but it's really unsustainable as far as key management goes
[07:08] <wyseguy> okay, so just manually mkdir and cp them over?
[07:10] <wyseguy> just looked in ~/.ssh and there is one file in there called authorized keys, there is just 1 line in there with the key
[07:10] <wyseguy> thinking i cp that .ssh folder over to the new user...
[07:13] <DeusExMaximum> ducasse: I just tried making a .desktop file and using exo-utils to make it default but it still won't work.
[07:13] <DeusExMaximum> I'll show you what I wrote in the desktop file. I tried copying the others.
[07:13] <DeusExMaximum> Nothing broke, by the way.
[07:14] <wyseguy> Triffid_Hunter mkdir /home/blake/.ssh
[07:14] <wyseguy> ls
[07:14] <wyseguy> whoops
[07:15] <wyseguy> cp authorized_keys /home/blake/.ssh/
[07:15] <DeusExMaximum> ducasse: https://imgur.com/a/tcRPkP2
[07:15] <wyseguy> might work? :)
[07:15] <DeusExMaximum> can someone look at that image I just posted and see why it's not working.
[07:15] <DeusExMaximum> I want to set up ranger as my default file manager
[07:16] <wyseguy> DeusExMaximum i think its the clouds in the background
[07:16] <DeusExMaximum> Or any file manager, for that reason.
[07:16] <DeusExMaximum> Oh yeah, that. My terminal is slightly tranparent, haha.
[07:16] <wyseguy> lol
[07:16] <DeusExMaximum> Plz ignore.
[07:16] <wyseguy> im not sure
[07:16] <DeusExMaximum> hm.
[07:16] <wyseguy> someone else might
[07:16] <ducasse> DeusExMaximum: you'd probably need to either set terminal to true or start it in a terminal on the exec line
[07:16] <Triffid_Hunter> wyseguy: on the server? yeah that'll work too although you'll have to change the permissions on the file appropriately or sshd will ignore it
[07:17] <DeusExMaximum> how do I start it in terminal in the exec line? What would the syntax look like?
[07:17] <DeusExMaximum> Thanks guys for your input and help so far, by the way.
[07:18] <ducasse> DeusExMaximum: typically "name-of-terminal -e ranger", but try setting terminal to true first
[07:19] <wyseguy> Triffid_Hunter chown? or just permissions
[07:19] <DeusExMaximum> Oh. Yeah, I tried setting terminal to true just now and it doesn't work, still. Fingers crossed with this next try, though!
[07:20] <wyseguy> Triffid_Hunter maybe just chmod 664 on the .ssh/authorized_keys
[07:20] <wyseguy> and chmod 755 on the .ssh folder...
[07:21] <DeusExMaximum> ducasse: nope. still doesn't work. darn. I hit the "add attachment" button in Discord an it just brings up the default file manager.
[07:21] <geirha> if you do that, ssh will refuse you
[07:21] <geirha> .ssh should be 700, and .ssh/authorized_keys should be 600
[07:22] <ducasse> DeusExMaximum: afaik that will just open the gtk or qt file selector, not a full file manager
[07:22] <wyseguy> geirha i set 755 on the folder and 644 on the file and it worked
[07:23] <DeusExMaximum> ducasse: is "afaik" internet slang for something or is that something I should know? Also, what does that mean? How do I augment what pops when I hit the attach file button on anything (be it firefox, discord, etc...) and is it even possible?
[07:24] <Norux> DeusExMaximum: as far as i know
[07:24] <ducasse> DeusExMaximum: 'as far as i know'
[07:25] <ducasse> DeusExMaximum: not possible, it's part of the program and depends on the toolkit used
[07:36] <Triffid_Hunter> wyseguy: afaik they should be 700 and 600 respectively, with auth keys owned by the relevant user
[07:37] <wyseguy> Triffid_Hunter yes
[07:40] <jluc> "StatupNotify" should probably rather be "StartupNotify" deusnotthereanymore
[07:41] <Silmarilion> Morning, was wondering how secure are gnome extensions listed on extesnions.gnome.org. Does somebody evaluate them from Gnome Project before being accepted or anybody can submit anything?
[07:44] <ducasse> Silmarilion: you should probably ask the gnome people
[07:49] <MrM1st> Hi all
[07:52] <hans_> uhm, was just updating an 16.04 system, and got this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gW6ZGNYscC/
[07:52] <hans_> should i be worried?
[07:56] <MrF4ck3d> hello
[07:56] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[07:56] <Norux> hi
[07:57] <ubuntu-mate> new ubuntu user here
[07:58] <Norux> ubuntu-mate: welcome!
[08:18] <bumblebee69> .
[08:18] <wyseguy> if i add a cert to my domain say abcd.com then i add a subdomain like test.abcd.com, when you go to test.abcd.com does it also become secure?
[08:20] <u0_a179> bonjour
[08:44] <guiverc> u0_a179, Hi, we use english here, so if you have a Ubuntu support question please just ask it. If you want to speak french #ubuntu-fr may be more useful (apologies if its not french, I don't speak francais)
[08:54] <utbnt> hi all
[08:54] <utbnt> I'd like to know if it is not risky
[08:55] <utbnt> to put the PC case flat, sry for my english
[08:58] <guiverc> utbnt, if the pc was normally 'vertical', changing to flat will generally work, however it may have increased costs on some hardware (eg. spinning drives, motors found in cooling fans etc) which may shorten life (esp. if its spent a lot of its life spinning the gravity pulling one direction)
[08:59] <hans_> wyseguy, wrong channel, try #webdev or something. but it depends on your cert, if you have a "wildcard certificate", yes. otherwise no, the browser will complain about an invalid certificate.
[09:00] <hans_> wyseguy, (the wildcard certs are usually expensive. if you have a cheap / free cert, it's almost certainly not a wildcard cert)
[09:00] <utbnt> thx guiverc & mrspoke, I'll stick to vertical when I upgrade to 18.04 final :)
[09:02] <hans_> utbnt, as long as the fans still have a good airflow, sure no problem. but if you have the fans facing the ground, you'll probably get overheating problems.
[09:02] <utbnt> I have another question, sorry for this
[09:03] <utbnt> but what is the exact date of Ubuntu 18.04 Final release ? I head there is a problem with gnome shell memory leak
[09:03] <mast> Anyone here run plex servers? Do you know what the hell could be up with stupid high "nice" cpu usage?
[09:03] <Ben64> utbnt: 26th
[09:04] <utbnt> thx, oh I have a last question
[09:04] <utbnt> will Nvidia Drivers be ready for 18.04 release date thx in advance
[09:06] <Ben64> utbnt: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:08] <BusyLM> Are there any ram drivers available ?
[09:21] <gunix> hey guys, any idea if nvidia+steam is working properly on ubuntu 18.04? so just install and no bugs/errors and you can just play
[09:21] <Ben64> gunix: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <gunix> isn't 18.04 live ?
[09:21] <Ben64> no
[09:22] <gunix> oh ok sorry
[09:22] <gunix> and thank you!
[09:22] <gunix> i'll stick to 16.04 than!
[09:22] <Ben64> ~2 more days left
[09:26] <ajay> HII
[09:28] <hans_> Ben64, i thought they're supposed to release it tomorrow?
[09:29] <guiverc> hans_, it gets released thursday  (UST or London time, so maybe friday morn my local time)
[09:31] <anzipex> How to fix "Open with" in nautilus? gedit program doesn't show there
[09:32] <anzipex> And i also can't delete LibreOffice Writer and notepad from that menu
[09:34] <anzipex> Ubuntu 14.04 x86
[09:35] <guiverc> anzipex, gedit shows up in my nautilus as 'text editor'  (sorry I'm not on 14.04 so haven't tested there)
[09:36] <brainwash> !isitout
[09:39] <anzipex> guiverc, the problem is that i can't add gedit in this "Open With" menu. If i choose "Other Application..." and pick gedit, it opens up, but "Open With" still doesn't have gedit
[09:41] <guiverc> anzipex, i just booted my 14.04 (unity) and my open with lists it as 'gedit' (open with) and if i use it it opens selected file with gedit.  are you wanting to make 'gedit' the default for that filetype?
[09:41] <anzipex> guiverc, yes
[09:42] <guiverc> click the file (so its highlighted in nautilus/files), then right click & select properties.  then go to "open with" tab & select what you want to be the default app
[09:43] <guiverc> (use 'set as default' to make gedit the default for that file.type)
[09:44] <MrM1st_> From time to time, Ubuntu just completely freezes. I'm unable to do anything
[09:45] <MrM1st> I'm using 17.10 btw
[09:45] <anzipex> guiverc, all text files now opens with gedit, just want to add gedit to "Open With" too. So, the problem is nautilus doesn't want to add gedit to "Open With"
[09:46] <MrM1st> Anyone else experience that 17.10 freezes?
[09:47] <guiverc> sorry anzipex I misunderstood. gedit already showed in my 'open with' menu
[09:47] <anzipex> I found solution, in gedit picked Preferences > Plugins > File Browser Panel. Now that's what i want. If i make right click on text file it shows up Open with gedit
[09:47] <guiverc> well done anzipex !
[09:47] <blackflow> MrM1st: checked the logs for any clues?
[09:48] <blackflow> MrM1st: it happens for me too, but under some specific circumstances involving firefox and netflix.
[09:48] <blackflow> and it happened only twice so I can't even be sure it's just that.
[09:48] <MrM1st> To me it seems to be happening when using spotify
[09:48] <MrM1st> The snap package
[09:49] <blackflow> MrM1st: so, checked the logs for any clues?
[09:50] <MrM1st> blackflow: looking at syslog now. Don't know what I'm looking for
[10:03] <MrM1st> blackflow: happened again :(
[10:05] <anzipex> Hm.. I've got problem with Alt keyboard button. When i rename file or folder and want to use another language source i press Shift + Alt. After that it stops renaming and that's the problem
[10:05] <blackflow> MrM1st: assuming you rebooted, you can look at the lines immediately preceding reboot. you can find where the logging starts after reboot (so look before that), because syslogd will log it's starting, something like:     rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="8.16.0" x-pid="2031" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] start
[10:06] <anzipex> How to fix this?
[10:06] <anzipex> Seems like Alt key like Esc
[10:07] <MrM1st> blackflow: Apr 25 11:57:21 cwork kernel: [ 1056.435515] [drm:drm_atomic_helper_swap_state [drm_kms_helper]] *ERROR* [CRTC:41:head-1] hw_done timed out
[10:07] <MrM1st> Apr 25 11:56:52 cwork firefox.desktop[2482]: ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientSourceOp::Msg___delete__ Route error: message sent to unknown actor ID
[10:08] <blackflow> MrM1st: nvidia?
[10:08] <MrM1st> blackflow: Mm. quadro-chip to be exact. How do you know?
[10:09] <blackflow> MrM1st: I didn't, I asked. I have nvidia too. I hear it's often the cause of such crashes.
[10:09] <Norux> !paste | MrM1st
[10:09] <blackflow> MrM1st: that first error sounds serious, and it happened in the DRM/KMS layer of the kernel, which involves the GPU
[10:10] <blackflow> MrM1st: is 11:57:21-ish the time it froze?
[10:10] <MrM1st> blackflow: there's some nouveau-messages before that as well
[10:10] <MrM1st> at 11:57:15
[10:11] <blackflow> MrM1st: oh noveau driver? that's even more reason for a crash. I've had big issues with it. I run the proprietary driver.
[10:11] <MrM1st> blackflow: ah.. Hmm. that might be it then.. hold on. I'm pastebining
[10:11] <blackflow> MrM1st: wait, if it froze at 11:57:15, and that error entry is 6 seconds later, it's _after_ reboot?
[10:13] <MrM1st> blackflow: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R5rC6JF4rv/
[10:13] <MrM1st> "blackflow" this is the lines BEFORE rsyslog: .... start
[10:14] <blackflow> seems like that's the cause of the crash
[10:14] <MrM1st> So it's the nouveau-driver behaving badly?
[10:15] <blackflow> MrM1st: that would be my guess.
[10:16] <blackflow> MrM1st: if the crashes happen often, you could run for a while with the proprietary driver. If the crashes dissapear, that's pretty much it then.
[10:16] <MrM1st> blackflow: Seems like something worth trying. How do I install the proprietary driver?
[10:17] <MrM1st> blackflow: Is it as simple as "sudo aptitude install nvidia-384?" ?
[10:17] <blackflow> MrM1st: "Additional Drivers" tab of the "Software & Updates" app. Or use the command line. for me it's the "nvidia-390" package because I use the graphics-drivers PPA
[10:18] <MrM1st> which ppa?
[10:18] <blackflow> MrM1st: yeah I think 384 is the latest in the LTS
[10:19] <MrM1st> blackflow: I'm doing vulkan-stuff as well, so I'm rather interested in keeping up with the drivers
[10:19] <blackflow> MrM1st: this one  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers
[10:19] <blackflow> MrM1st: but I wouldn't recommend it yet. Use the LTS driver first, see if that fixes the crashes.
[10:19] <MrM1st> hehe.. OK :)
[10:20] <blackflow> using that PPA means having latest drivers installed, which then means potentially more problems to deal with.
[10:20] <MrM1st> the 384-package will update to newer versions if the show up?
[10:20] <blackflow> MrM1st: only in the 384.x branch
[10:21] <MrM1st> blackflow: Is there something like a meta package that will opdate when a newer version is available?
[10:21] <MrM1st> -o+u
[10:22] <blackflow> MrM1st: not that I know of.
[10:22] <MrM1st> Installing now
[10:22] <MrM1st> might have to reboot
[10:23] <blackflow> you definitely have to reboot :)
[10:23] <MrM1st> How will I be able to detect the new driver being used?
[10:25] <blackflow> MrM1st: dmesg | grep nvidia      and      | grep nouveau  (shouldn't appear)
[10:25] <MrM1st> blackflow: thanks
[10:25] <MrM1st> booting... I'll be back
[10:28] <avidal7> h
[10:28] <avidal7> jsjjc
[10:28] <avidal7> akcn
[10:39] <luna_> 18.04 release tommorow evening o/
[11:05] <MrM1st> blackflow: Back
[11:07] <capsock1> hi at all
[11:07] <capsock1> does anyone know why i find some packges in the ubuntu software center which i cant find in kubuntus discover or muon? For example "Signal Messenger" or "Spotify"
[11:07] <MrM1st> capsock1: span install spotify? :P
[11:07] <MrM1st> capsock1: snap install spotify
[11:09] <capsock1> Haha thanks MrM1st :)
[11:09] <capsock1> is there any way to see snap-apps in discover or muon?
[11:09] <MrM1st> capsock1: No problem :) it's not officially supported though
[11:10] <MrM1st> capsock1: I'm not using KDE, so I wouldn't know.   When it sets blank screen, and then when I return from the blank screen, the external display stays in hibernation mode.
[12:03] <francisv> An easy work around would be to have an screen saver instead
[12:04] <micw> Hi. I'm testing 18.04 in virtualbox. I installed the guest utils, dkms and x11 driver. When I switch to fullscreen, the screen gets messed up and does not respond until I switch back to window. I remember that I had similar in 17.10 (so stayed with 16.04)
[12:04] <zprd> hi, i would like to create lxc container of type centos with th 7.5 release, on artful
[12:04] <Norux> micw: ask about 18.04 in #ubuntu+1
[12:04] <francisv> cfhowlett: dual screen savers would like issues, therefore removing gnome-screensaver first is a sensible thing to do?
[12:04] <francisv> s/like/cause
[12:04] <cfhowlett> indeed.  ONE screensaver might work for you.
[12:05] <francisv> ok, then I will proceed as https://askubuntu.com/questions/292995/configure-screensaver-in-ubuntu
[12:05] <francisv> Thank you, cfhowlett
[12:05] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[12:06] <micw> ok
[12:24] <blackjackfs> Hi, I recently upgraded 16.04 from 14.04. Before <ctrl><alt><f1-f6> would take me to another tty where I could log in. Now there is no login shell. Just a "-" at the top left corner.
[12:24] <blackjackfs> s/upgraded/upgraded to/
[12:30] <brainwash> blackjackfs: and if you run "sudo systemctl start getty@tty1"? does that initialize tty1 (F1) properly?
[12:31] <blackjackfs> brainwash, Nope, still nothing.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> thought F1 was now for the desktop replacing F7
[12:33] <BluesKaj> blackjackfs, try F2 - F6
[12:33] <brainwash> blackjackfs: what does "systemctl status getty@tty1" give?
[12:34] <Gargravarr> BluesKaj: i thought i was going crazy when i spotted that on Bionic :)
[12:34] <Gargravarr> 'where TF is TTY1??'
[12:34] <blackjackfs> BluesKaj, still nothing
[12:34] <jackhum> is there anyway i can change my webcam name in ubuntu
[12:35] <BluesKaj> blackjackfs, what about nomodeset?
[12:36] <blackjackfs> brainwash, "systemctl status getty@tty1" > https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R9W93CKdRD/
[12:37] <brainwash> jackhum: maybe with a simple "lsusb" in the terminal
[12:37] <brainwash> jackhum: oh. you want to change it..
[12:37] <blackjackfs> BluesKaj, not sure what's nomodeset. Is that a command?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset
[12:37] <jackhum> brainwash, i want to change name of my camera , like i am using webcamstudio and i want to rename the video device name to something else
[12:40] <blackjackfs> BluesKaj, nomodeset is not set nor was it set before (on 14.04). I know this because I had to modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to "quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[12:41] <ioria> blackjackfs,    try  '  sudo chvt 1   '
[12:41] <brainwash> jackhum: could be possibly done with a udev rule, but that may be tricky
[12:42] <BluesKaj> blackjackfs, nomodeset is a temporary work around mainly to get to desktop anyway it's not meant to be a permanent setting
[12:44] <blackjackfs> ioria, Won't I be effectively locked out if chvt 1 doesn't return a shell?
[12:44] <EriC^> blackjackfs: why isn't ctrl+alt+f# working?
[12:45] <ioria> blackjackfs,    are you in graphical mode atm ?
[12:45] <blackjackfs> yes, I'm on f7
[12:45] <ioria> blackjackfs,    sudo chvt 1
[12:46] <blackjackfs> EriC^, For example, if I go to f1, it doesn't show a shell for login like it use to on 14.04. It just shows a "-" on the top left corner.
[12:46] <blackjackfs> ioria, Ok, trying it now.
[12:47] <blackjackfs> ioria, Nope, "chvt 1" shows the same behaviour.
[12:48] <ioria> blackjackfs,  ps -A | grep  tty
[12:48] <stevenm> Can anyone offer an explanation for why tty1 is always blank?  (i.e. on a normal Ubuntu desktop, when you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1)... it's the same on all of them... but it's just blank... i.e. if you're happy to type blind - then you can login and run stuff
[12:48] <EriC^> blackjackfs: what about f2?
[12:48] <blackjackfs> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KDVGcjqwqZ/
[12:48] <stevenm> it was like this both on 14.04 and 16.04
[12:49] <blackjackfs> EriC^, I tried all the way upto f6.
[12:49] <stevenm> blackjackfs, any chance you're experiencing the same?
[12:50] <blackjackfs> stevenm, But for me it was working fine on 16.04.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> stevenm, try F2 instead
[12:50] <stevenm> BluesKaj, i already said it's all of them (F1 to F6)
[12:50] <ioria> blackjackfs,  yeah, they are all activated
[12:50] <stevenm> well I'm still on 16.04 - no worky
[12:50] <Norux> EriC^: Where has your second '^' gone :O
[12:51] <stevenm> but VLC was making my desktop instable... so I did   Ctrl+Alt+F1 ... username ... <enter> ... password ... <enter> ... killall -9 vlc
[12:51] <stevenm> worked fine
[12:51] <BluesKaj> stevenm, ok my mistake
[12:51] <stevenm> so I know it is there - but the screen is just blank
[12:51] <ioria> blackjackfs,  what happens if you press a key ?
[12:51] <blackjackfs> ioria, nothing.
[12:52] <stevenm> it's nothing new - been like this for months, just annoying when you really need it - then you likely give up and reboot, then i can never be bothered to raise the issue
[12:52] <stevenm> blackjackfs, you on intel onboard graphics by any chance?
[12:52] <ioria> blackjackfs,  what's your kernel ?  uname -r
[12:53] <blackjackfs> Ok, stevenm got me thinking. I can confirm the tty is working. It's just not visible.
[12:53] <stevenm> yeah same issue
[12:53] <blackjackfs> I did   Ctrl+Alt+F1 ... username ... <enter> ... password ... <enter> ... touch /tmp/zzzz123
[12:54] <blackjackfs> and it works.
[12:54] <stevenm> it's an odd co-incidence we're both in here at the same time talking about the same issue
[12:54] <BluesKaj> doesn't ubuntu have a system monitor where on can send a terminate/kill signal to a process?
[12:54] <stevenm> unfortunate to see it persists in 18.04 though if that's what you are on
[12:54] <blackjackfs> ioria, 4.4.0-121-generic
[12:54] <blackjackfs> stevenm, odd indeed.
[12:54] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, "system monitor" then "processes" if I remember correctly
[12:54] <ioria> blackjackfs,  ok, i's take a look in /etc/default/grub
[12:55] <ioria> i'd
[12:55] <stevenm> i reckon it's something to do with the text mode that it tries to set by default
[12:55] <BluesKaj> JimBuntu, Kubuntu has one in the maim menu
[12:55] <stevenm> blackjackfs, what graphics you got in that thing?  not a dell is it? :D
[12:55] <BluesKaj> main even
[12:55] <stevenm> i get this on my crappy work machine (at work at the moment)
[12:55] <ioria> blackjackfs,  maybe paste it
[12:56] <blackjackfs> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vfxwnBmnD8/
[12:56] <blackjackfs> It is indeed a dell.
[12:56] <stevenm> lol, an optiplex 3020 by any chance?
[12:56] <zteam> Hi! just a question: can anybody else here with Ubuntu 17.10 just access there desktop folders, by just double-click them from the desktop? (if I try right from the desktop it won't work, but from nautilus it works completly  as expected
[12:57] <blackjackfs> stevenm, I'm on 16.04, it was working fine on 14.04.
[12:57] <ioria> blackjackfs,  any proprietary driver in use ?
[12:57] <ioria> blackjackfs,  video driver, i mean
[12:58] <blackjackfs> stevenm, nope, Inspriron 15 3000 series
[12:58] <blackjackfs> ioria, Not that I know of.
[12:58] <ioria> blackjackfs,  try to remove acpi_backlight=vendor  and run sudo update-grub and reboot
[12:58] <stevenm> blackjackfs, intel hd graphics like mine then
[12:59] <wiq> How to install python 3.5.3 on ubuntu?
[13:00] <Fuchs> wiq: what version of ubuntu and does it have to be _exactly_ this version?
[13:00] <Fuchs> because chances are that on recent ubuntu versions there is a newer one installed, and a downgrade might not be the greatest idea ever
[13:00] <stevenm> wiq, 18.04 is out tomorrow with 3.6.5 baked in
[13:01] <wiq> Can be greater or equal to 3.5.3. I am using ubuntu 16.10. Fuchs
[13:01] <blackjackfs> stevenm, nope. Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics.
[13:02] <blackjackfs> ioria, I had the vendor line to fix an issue that I can't recall right now, but I'll try it and get back to you.
[13:02] <stevenm> yeah thats in the intel hd family
[13:02] <blackjackfs> didn't know.
[13:02] <Fuchs> wiq: then you either have to use a ppa at your own risk or update to 18.04 once out, if it can wait a bit longer
[13:03] <Fuchs> wiq: or of course compile and install from source, but that's likely to be more of a pain and more of a risk than a ppa
[13:04] <wiq> Now, I have installed python 3.6 with ppa but not able to install something with pip to it. Fuchs
[13:04] <Fuchs> you have to use a corresponding pip3
[13:04] <Fuchs> chances are that the ppa has a package for that, then you need to use that
[13:04] <Fuchs> pip quite likely points  1) at python2  2) the python installed by ubuntu
[13:05] <andreycizov> depending on how you use python, I would suggest installing the packager-maintained version and then immediately creating a venv for pyX
[13:06] <andreycizov> it solves all of the issues of pip namespacing and quite frankly - that's the way they expect you to use it
[13:07] <stevenm> https://askubuntu.com/questions/162535/why-does-switching-to-the-tty-give-me-a-blank-screen
[13:10] <stevenm> blackjackfs, work?
[13:11] <blackjackfs> stevenm, yep
[13:11] <blackjackfs> ioria, It worked man. Thanks!
[13:11] <ioria> blackjackfs,  ok, no prob
[13:12] <blackjackfs> stevenm, you sure you don't have a problem like I did?
[13:12] <stevenm> ioria, i've got a different issue then - no acpi_backlight=vendor in my grub conf
[13:13] <stevenm> i was gonna try...
[13:13] <stevenm> echo GRUB_GFXMODE=auto | sudo tee -a /etc/default/grub; sudo update-grub
[13:13] <stevenm> but i won't be able to reboot for ages
[13:15] <zteam> Hi! just a question: can anybody else here with Ubuntu 17.10 just access there desktop folders, by just double-click them from the desktop? (if I try right from the desktop it won't work, but from nautilus it works completly  as expected) plese test if this works for you and let me know please
[13:17] <Norux> zteam: what do you mean
[13:19] <SimonNL> zteam: have you checked the command in the launcher
[13:20] <zteam> Norux, if I have a folder on the desktop dasboard and try to doubleclick on it from the dashboard, it won't open, but If I open the same folder from nautilus it opens fine :-)
[13:21] <Norux> zteam: https://askubuntu.com/questions/984153/cant-open-desktop-folders-by-double-clicking-on-ubuntu-17-10
[13:21] <zteam> SimonNL, where do I do that?
[13:22] <SimonNL> right click check it's settings
[13:23] <nostrora> Hello! Ubuntu 18.04 is already ready ?
[13:23] <zteam> Norux, I checked show desktop icons in gnome-tweak tool, and my icons is visible, but not usuable
[13:24] <brainwash> !isitout
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> nostrora: No
[13:24] <nostrora> pragmaticenigma: do we know the release date ? approximaly ?
[13:24] <zteam> SimonNL, sorry but I'm not getting it?
[13:24] <brainwash> !18.04
[13:25] <pragmaticenigma> zteam: read through this support thread and see if it helps your issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/984153/cant-open-desktop-folders-by-double-clicking-on-ubuntu-17-10
[13:25] <lapaga> ummm...if you are updated and do cat /etc/lsb-release it will no longer show development branch
[13:26] <SimonNL> zteam: sorry I see it doesn't show what I expected it to show
[13:26] <pragmaticenigma> nostrora: The offical release date of Ubuntu 18.04 is April 26th
[13:28] <pragmaticenigma> lapaga: They are likely preparing for the official release. Removal of a branch is just part of the process. The official release date has been published as April 26th.. that is all we know from an official standpoint
[13:28] <nostrora> I can read this : "Canonical is also working to speed up the boot-time of Ubuntu by using systemd’s features."
[13:29] <nostrora> Do you know which systemd's features are talking about ? source : https://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-release-date-features/
[13:29] <zteam> anyway, I get the following error from the system: cannot open folder on desktop, freedesktop bus not ready
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> nostrora: Until April 26th, all 18.04 discussion and support is in /join #ubuntu+1
[13:30] <nostrora> pragmaticenigma: ok ! Thanks o/
[13:32] <vicente> ...
[13:43] <mpeg> hmmn
[13:43] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | mpeg
[13:44] <blackjackfs> !patience | blackjackfs
[13:45] <mpeg> pragmaticenigma: i have not asked any question
[13:46] <Gargravarr> mpeg: indeed, you are being encouraged to do so :)
[13:46] <pragmaticenigma> !msgthebot | blackjackfs
[13:51] <owner_> i have installed 16.04.  I have a Rocketstor 5322 esata docking station.  Ubuntu can't seem to locate it. Is this compatible with Ubuntu 16.04
[13:52] <owner_> i have installed 16.04.  I have a Rocketstor 5322 esata docking station.  Ubuntu can't seem to locate it. Is this compatible with Ubuntu 16.04
[13:53] <Gargravarr> !patience | owner_
[13:53] <owner_> if so how can I make it work
[13:57] <Gargravarr> owner_: have you looked around for advice on eSATA in Ubuntu? i've done a quick search and there are a few articles and forum entries on various steps to troubleshoot
[13:57] <owner_> another question while were chatting.  can UBuntu recognize 6TB HDD
[13:58] <Gargravarr> there is no practical limit to the size of HDD an Ubuntu machine can work with. note that for partitions greater than 2TB, you will need to use GPT
[13:58] <owner_> ok thanks
[13:58] <Gargravarr> owner_: one of the first results i got: https://superuser.com/questions/191997/getting-ubuntu-to-recogize-my-esata-drive
[14:20] <wiq> How to add geckodriver to PATH?
[14:22] <wiq> solved ^
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> wiq: Questions like that are really hard to understand. Please remember to be detailed so we can undrestand what you're attempting to do. Sometimes there are multiple answers, and to choose the best one needs a little more help
[14:25] <stochastix2> Is the amdgpu a proprietary driver, or a community one?
[14:26] <stochastix2> Looks like im running amdgpu and radeon  modules right now
[14:27] <stochastix2> Im just curious what kind of 3d support those modules have?
[14:27] <stochastix2> Is there maybe a little test I can run to bench it a little I wonder?
[14:30] <pragmaticenigma> stochastix2: the best I can offer for assistance is the support page for AMD graphics: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver
[14:30] <Gargravarr> according to that page, both amdgpu and radeon are open-source, so community not proprietary
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> AMD has stopped development on their proprietary drivers (if I recall correctly) and made significant contributions to the OpenSource community for driver support
[14:32] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: gauntlet has been thrown to nVidia, we hope :)
[14:32] <rory> if I "wget example.com/foo" which returns 302 found for example.com/bar the file gets saved as "foo", how can I make it get saved as "bar" ?
[14:32] <rory> it doesn't have to be wget even, I just want to save the file with the final filename after a chain of redirects
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> rory: "man wget" will tell you that you want to use the -O (capitol o) option
[14:32] <rory> that makes me specify a name
[14:32] <Gargravarr> rory: i think curl -O handles 302's correctly
[14:33] <rory> I don't know the name
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> rory: you can name it anything you like
[14:33] <rory> I want it to be named bar
[14:33] <arthar360> Hi, I am on Ubuntu 16.04 with dotnet inside a docker container. There is another container with nginx which acts as api and is exposed to the internet. I have enabled http to https redirection in this container by using "return 301 https://$host$request_uri" which works file. The problem arises whrn dotnet needs to process some events. The events are not fired properly and I get logs which say "Error while handl
[14:33] <arthar360> ing Server Events message: An error occurred while sending the request. SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK -    at ServiceStack.AsyncServiceClient.<SendWebRequestAsync>d__134`1.MoveNext()". When I disable auto redirection, Everything works fine (on https). But I have to type https manually. I am quiet sure its a problem with nginx redirection. Any help would be appreciated
[14:33] <rory> because the server gave a 302 found to example.com/bar
[14:33] <arthar360> fine*
[14:33] <rory> if the server gave 302 found to example.com/something_else I would want it to be saved as something_else, but I don't know the name ahead of time
[14:34] <pragmaticenigma> rory: wget -O /local/path/to/bar "www.example.com/foo"
[14:34] <rory> Gargravarr: I'll look into it
[14:34] <rory> no pragmaticenigma you miss my point - I don't know what the server is going to redirect to
[14:34] <rory> so I can't put a custom filename
[14:35] <rory> ah found it - --trust-server-names in man wget
[14:35] <pragmaticenigma> rory: It sounds like you might need to look into a different tool
[14:35] <rory> missed it :)
[14:35] <pragmaticenigma> rory: there ya go!
[14:35] <wlan2> rory, I was typing it.
[14:36] <Gargravarr> rory: forgiveable, sometimes it's difficult to know what the developer would name something as when looking through the man pages :)
[14:36] <wlan2> You said it first because I took the time to check it was the correct option for you.
[14:36] <vmenezes> I have few servers running on "Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS" and some on  "Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS"? How can I update all to "Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS"?
[14:37] <Gargravarr> vmenezes: i assume you mean 16.0.4?
[14:37] <Gargravarr> guh, 16.04.4
[14:37] <vmenezes> yeah
[14:37] <vmenezes> Oops
[14:37] <pragmaticenigma> vmenezes: "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade"
[14:37] <Gargravarr> the Ubuntu version is updated as part of 'base-files'. the easiest option is to run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on each one
[14:38] <stochastix2> pragmaticenigma:  Thanks for the link, ill check it out.
[14:39] <Gargravarr> out of curiosity, how many subversions does an LTS release generally get to by the time it's EOL'd?
[14:39] <pragmaticenigma> Gargravarr: it varies
[14:40] <Gargravarr> like macOS :)
[14:40] <pragmaticenigma> The dot releases are rollups, they are indicators of items moving into to the main repository instead of the updates
[14:41] <pragmaticenigma> I'm unsure on the criteria used. I would guess it's the amount of updates one would have to download after a fresh install reaching a specific threshold
[14:43] <wlan2> I think they make one iso for each subrelease?
[14:43] <vmenezes> Just confirming, if I wait until next week "apt dist-update" may instead get me updated to Ubuntu 18.04 right?
[14:43] <wlan2> vmenezes: I don't think so.
[14:43] <wlan2> You'd have to do-release-upgrade
[14:43] <rory> actually the .3 .4 patch versions don't really mean anything for an already-installed system. They are used to create new installation media containing all the updates since the first release
[14:44] <rory> so if you install 16.04 and it's up to date, then 18.04.1 comes out, you are essentially already on 18.04.1
[14:44] <rory> err 16.04.1
[14:44] <rory> you get my point
[14:44] <pragmaticenigma> vmenezes: no, 18.04 will not arrive via dist-upgrade commands
[14:44] <rory> dist-upgrade is terribly named imo lol
[14:44] <vmenezes> oh, got it! thanks wlan2 and pragmaticenigma
[14:45] <Gargravarr> rory: dates from Debian where you'd switch your APT sources to the next release and then 'dist-upgrade' everything
[14:45] <Gargravarr> don't deny it's a poor name when it basically amounts to 'update everything, even back-held packages'
[14:45] <wlan2> rory: It's not.
[14:46] <wlan2> That naming more than "terrible" is "legacy"
[14:46] <Gargravarr> wlan2: in fairness, 'legacy' almost everywhere is synonymous with 'terrible' ;)
[14:46] <pragmaticenigma> rory: upgrade does not remove any packages or install any new packages. Which is why it doesn't install new kernel updates. dist-upgrade allows packages to be removed and added to complete the update
[14:47] <wlan2> Gargravarr: I said "more", not "instead"
[14:48] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: i actually hadn't noticed it does removals too. learn something new every day
[14:48] <wlan2> It's called dist-upgrade because it can be used to upgrade your distro. You'd need to edit the sources.list first.
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> Gargravarr: https://askubuntu.com/a/226213
[14:49] <Gargravarr> "New versions of
[14:49] <Gargravarr>     currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without
[14:49] <Gargravarr>     changing the install status of another package will be left at
[14:49] <rory> yeah but to the uninitiated, "dist-upgrade" would do what do-release-upgrade actually does
[14:49] <Gargravarr>     their current version."
[14:49] <rory> I like apt's new terminology "full-upgrade"
[14:49] <Gargravarr> oops, sorry :) that explains why 'upgrade' omits kernel upgrades by default
[14:49] <rory> This confusion comes up all the time
[14:49] <rory> We should advise people to use "apt" commands instead of "apt-get" it's been available for years
[14:50] <stochastix2> Is virtualbox in backports?
[14:51] <stochastix2> Actually I think I made no sense.
[14:52] <stochastix2> Just trying to figure out what repo virtualbox is in.
[14:52] <EriC^^> !info virtualbox
[14:53] <EriC^^> stochastix2: multiverse
[14:54] <wlan2> Goodbye.
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> Gargravarr: just missed getting muted by the moderator bot... carefully when pasting text like that
[14:59] <odez> hi, after upgrading to ubuntu 18.04 i got a minute delay in showing the login screen. anyone heard of this issue?   (X, gdm3, nvidia)
[15:00] <pragmaticenigma> odez: 18.04 support is available in #ubuntu+1
[15:00] <vlt> odez: Might be a "resume from" device the initramfs is waiting for.
[15:02] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: duly noted, i usually paste into a text editor first :$
[15:05] <mitser> HI
[15:05] <pragmaticenigma> Hello mitser , do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:06] <mitser> HOW CAN I DO CHAT WITH OTHERS?
[15:06] <Randolf> mitser:  What type of chat?
[15:07] <mitser> JUST CHAT
[15:07] <Randolf> mitser:  You're on IRC now, and there are many channels to choose from.  If you're wondering about IRC chat, then you can ask those general questions in the official help channel:  /join #help
[15:07] <Randolf> mitser:  This channel is specifically focused on the Ubuntu Linux Operating System.
[15:07] <Chocobo> Hey folks, found someone using your logo the other day:  https://imgur.com/a/0BMaXft
[15:07] <EriC^> mitser: /join #ubuntu-offtopic or /join #chat
[15:08] <Randolf> Chocobo:  Oh, that's interesting.
[15:08] <u0_a152> hello
[15:08] <mitser> OK
[15:08] <Chocobo> Randolf: I thought so.  They _did_ do a color change and embossed the "Circle of Friends" to make it look super corny.
[15:09] <mitser> THANK YOU
[15:10] <pragmaticenigma> Chocobo: If you feel it's a trademark infringement, the appropriate place is to inform Canonical directly. https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/intellectual-property-policy
[15:10] <pragmaticenigma> Chocobo: Official trademarks of the ubuntu logo appear to be for the circle of friend in white with a solid orange background
[15:12] <Randolf> pragmaticenigma:  With Registered Trademarks (at least in Canada) it is possible to register a mark with specific colours, but generally people don't specify colours because then the shape gets registered incidental to which colours are used.
[15:12] <mitser> ?
[15:17] <wlx> hi
[15:18] <wlx> every one
[15:18] <RobertPlummer> Hey guys, I know you do a lot of hard work, and there is a ton of stuff not related to ubuntu, but I wanted to give a shout out to you.  I've been running ubuntu 17 on my Lenovo Yoga 3 11".
[15:18] <RobertPlummer> I hated it.
[15:18] <RobertPlummer> Then I tried 18.
[15:18] <RobertPlummer> Now it is one of my favorite devices ever.
[15:18] <wlx> why are you like ubuntu
[15:18] <RobertPlummer> You guys have done a fantastic job putting your heart and sole into this release, and one day before it goes, it is by-far the best ubuntu I've ever used.
[15:18] <RobertPlummer> soul.
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | wlx
[15:19] <wlx> ok
[15:19] <RobertPlummer> Good job guys making an operating system that is industrial strength, yet user friendly and ready.
[15:20] <Randolf> pragmaticenigma:  It appears that there may indeed be a violation, unless permission was granted, but based on the strictness and long-winded specificity of how the "Circle of Friends" mark can be used I'm inclined to guess that it probably isn't authorized, particularly since "changing the colours"
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> Randolf: I'm not a representative of Canonical and not a lawyer, please discontinue this topic
[15:20] <Randolf> is forbidden:  https://design.ubuntu.com/brand/ubuntu-logo/?_ga=2.224065369.337520970.1524669292-330894386.1520801021
[15:21] <Randolf> pragmaticenigma:  Okay.
[15:21] <tda> the logo is three people standing in a circle holding hands?
[15:26] <nicomachus> Randolf: this is the wrong channel for that. try emailing canonical, they aren't on IRC
[15:28] <mitser> mitser:
[15:29] <mitser> file:///home/mitser/Desktop/universal-mind-quantum-power-1000x500.jpg
[15:30] <GREEK_> someone for chats?
[15:31] <Gargravarr> !ot | GREEK_
[15:34] <Bob_Dole> Does anyone know where I can check the CPU-NB speed of old AMD FX series (zambezi, vishera) in the CLI? /proc/cpuinfo doesn't seem to have it.
[15:35] <Bob_Dole> and googling is only giving me overclocking tips.
[15:36] <Gargravarr> Bob_Dole: try http://products.amd.com/en-us/search
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> Bob_Dole: I'm not aware of a way to look up clock speeds for GPUs. To gather that information usually requires proprietary software provided by the manufacture to access
[15:37] <Gargravarr> best place to get that sort of information is direct from the vendor
[15:37] <Bob_Dole> Gargravarr, the default for it is 2200mhz I believe but some mobos set 2000mhz, so I want to check that
[15:37] <Bob_Dole> pragmaticenigma, cpu. AM3+ from 2012 before Zen launched
[15:38] <ioria> Bob_Dole, lscpu | grep MHz
[15:38] <Gargravarr> Bob_Dole: tried lscpu? that should give you the current clock speed, but beware the frequency scaling may be in effect to save power
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> Bob_Dole: that information would be in the documenation from the manufacturer.
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> ioria: that only works fro CPUs not GPUs
[15:38] <mar77i> I have this worry where I have openssl 1.0.2g on ubuntu and 1.1.0h on archlinux, with the "same" decryption commands (openssl enc -d -aes-256-cbc etc) get valid output data on 1.0.2g but I get an error message (bad decrypt:<PHONE_NUMBER>44448:error:06065064:digital envelope routines:EVP_DecryptFinal_ex:bad decrypt:crypto/evp/evp_enc.c:536:) on archlinux. now I have two questions:
[15:39] <ioria> pragmaticenigma, it is a cpu
[15:39] <Bob_Dole> pragmaticenigma, it's not a gpu, the FX series is cpus
[15:39] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: he's talking about a CPU
[15:39] <pragmaticenigma> oh
[15:39] <mar77i> 1. whether the lack of ineroperability in this case is a bug is probably more something for #openssl, I guess, but maybe someone here can answer this?
[15:39] <ioria> but yes, there are fx amd video cards
[15:39] <pragmaticenigma> sorry, several previous questions were for AMD GPUs... guess I was hung up on that
[15:40] <mar77i> 2. what happens if ubuntu ubgrades to openssl 1.1 in the coming years. will I no longer be able to access my data?
[15:40] <pragmaticenigma> mar77i: I would ask in #openssl ... they're going to be more familiar with what would cause that
[15:40] <Bob_Dole> ioria, I'll try that but CPU-NB is the internal northbridge speed, affects memory controller and l3 cache. (as AM3+ chips have a CPU-NB and chipset NB..)
[15:41] <ioria> Bob_Dole,  you wanna  know max speed , right ? or .... ?
[15:41] <Gargravarr> mar77i: 2. Ubuntu, particularly LTS, tries not to introduce breaking changes. OpenSSL releases are very slow and methodical to further prevent this. they have multiple releases in parallel in active support
[15:41] <Bob_Dole> the CPU-NB should stay at a constant speed
[15:41] <Bob_Dole> it's not the core-clock speed
[15:41] <Gargravarr> Bob_Dole: that sort of information, you might be able to find in the BIOS
[15:41] <Gargravarr> or even via dmidecode
[15:42] <Gargravarr> the OS is not really engineered to poke around in the CPU internals
[15:45] <mar77i> Gargravarr: does this count across lts releases, too?
[15:45] <mar77i> the one I have here seems to be two years old already, so
[15:47] <Bob_Dole> Gargravarr, well, I was just hoping for something as easy as /proc/cpuinfo, but thank you. I may want stuff from dmidecode anyways on this board. (I'm looking for this because I have 2 other AM3+ boards and one has a BIOS that sets the wrong, too-slow CPU-NB and requires manually setting it to AMD's specs.)
[15:48] <Gargravarr> mar77i: LTS is supported for 5 years. your current release isn't even halfway through its life yet
[15:52] <mar77i> oh wow. oh wow, I figured it out.
[15:53] <mar77i> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34304570/how-to-resolve-the-evp-decryptfinal-ex-bad-decrypt-during-file-decryption suggests to use -md md5 (because this was ditched as a no longer sensible default in openssl 1.1). To still have it available is pretty great, though.
[15:53] <Gargravarr> mar77i: always a good feeling when you figure something out for yourself, huh? :D
[15:53] <mar77i> oh well, I'm not quite there yet, because I had to seriously consider that real customers' data was gone for at least a part of the afternoon.
[16:06] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all. I'm having some problems compiling a kernel I just cloned from git
[16:06] <_UsUrPeR_> specifically this git: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/unstable.git/
[16:06] <_UsUrPeR_> error is showing ./scripts/ubuntu-retpoline-extract-one: No such file or directory
[16:07] <_UsUrPeR_> full build make-kpgk verbose output is here: https://paste.ee/p/erWzI
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> _UsUrPeR_: we aren't able to support compiling kernels from source. Is there a particular reason you are trying to compile kernel code on your own?
[16:08] <_UsUrPeR_> pragmaticenigma, yeah. I'm trying to work on a kernel bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106159
[16:08] <pragmaticenigma> _UsUrPeR_: I would recommend checking out #linux or #kernel
[16:08] <_UsUrPeR_> pragmaticenigma, specifically for amdgpu.dc issues I'm experiencing. What do you mean can't support? Who can?
[16:08] <Gargravarr> _UsUrPeR_: best bet is to ask the guys in #ubuntu-kernel
[16:08] <_UsUrPeR_> thanks
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> _UsUrPeR_: The support channel is meant for supporting Ubuntu as it is provided through the installation media and Package repositories. Where things have documentation we can reference in order to help each other. Self compiled applications fall out of scope as different steps could be taken to compile the code as well as different features turned on and off. It because too difficult to generically troubleshoot
[16:22] <antonm> Hi
[16:23] <diezel_mobile> o/
[16:23] <kostkon> antonm, hi
[16:54] <zamba> what's going on here: https://pastebin.com/V9DRRCUz
[16:55] <zamba> locale -a outputs nb_NO.utf8, but when trying to set it using LC_TIME=nb_NO.utf8 returns -bash: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (nb_NO.utf8)
[16:55] <zamba> what's going on here?
[16:58] <Donald_ET3> So, I'm thinking about writing my own little file encryption program, and I was thinking it would be really elegant to just type the password as a command line option, but I've heard that it is possible for another user on a Unix system to view the entire command that another user is running at the moment, including the command options. Is that true?
[16:58] <andregray> hi
[16:58] <tda> yes. also shell history
[17:01] <nexus7> Hi, to fix my laptop I need to access this channel from my phone, what is a good IRC client for Android?
[17:02] <SlidingHorn> nexus7: androirc
[17:02] <tda> i think androirc is popular
[17:02] <Donald_ET3> I use Yaaic
[17:05] <king_crimson> Yaaic is open source, but both clients seem abandoned. Something like 3~5 years without development activity. https://github.com/pocmo/Yaaic
[17:05] <ca_cabotage> hey all, i've seen in a few places on the internet that 16.04 LTS can be upgraded to 18.04 LTS without breaking things - is this true? I was planning on a clean install to go from 16.04 to 18.04 tomorrow, but if you really can seamlessly upgrade from one LTS to the next I'd much prefer not to waste my time
[17:05] <nacc> ca_cabotage: yes, it will be offered once 18.04.1 is out (3 months)
[17:06] <bn_work> On Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ('trusty'), does anyone know what the various symbols (-, +, ?) mean when doing `service --status-all`?  the man page for `service` doesn't really explain... Does `-` = not enable to start on boot, `+` = enabled to start on boot, `?` = unknown (not sure why it'd be unknown)
[17:06] <bn_work> ?
[17:06] <bn_work> s/not enable/not enabled/
[17:07] <ca_cabotage> nacc: so seamless upgrade is a .1 release on LTS? should i wait for .1 instead of just clean installing tomorrow?
[17:07] <nexus7> SlidingHorn: It looks like Androirc can not authenticate my nickname.
[17:08] <SlidingHorn> nexus7: It can...you're better off not using the option in the settings and just doing it manually though
[17:08] <nacc> ca_cabotage: up to you
[17:08] <nexus7> Donald_ET3: Yaaic, is good, but replying to people too hard.
[17:09] <Donald_ET3> oh
[17:13] <Egyptian> hi - i am trying to set my default kernel to the 2nd kernel by using grub-set-default 1 but it doesnt work .. recognizing that i have submenus i tried grub-set-default "0>1" too . i did update-grub before rebooting and both numbers do not work.. help pls
[17:14] <nacc> Egyptian: use the title, not the number, maybe
[17:14] <Egyptian> nacc title?
[17:15] <nacc> Like "Advanced boot options> ..."
[17:15] <jackhum_> can anyone have any idea of how to change the name of my webcam device?
[17:15] <nacc> i'm not sure 0>1 works, tbh
[17:16] <jackhum_> my laptop webcam device is easycamera , how can i change to something helloworld
[17:16] <nacc> jackhum_: why would you?
[17:16] <Egyptian> nacc .. i got it from https://askubuntu.com/questions/608477/how-to-change-the-default-grub-option-in-ubuntu-14-04
[17:17] <Gargravarr> Donald_ET3: yes, anyone with the privilege to list processes (most users) can see the command string while it's running
[17:17] <Gargravarr> in addition, never roll your own crypto, except as an academic exercise :)
[17:17] <nacc> Egyptian: did you update the /etc/default/grub to have GRUB_DEFAULT=saved ?
[17:17] <jackhum_> nacc, i want to change it
[17:18] <nacc> jackhum_: you can use a udev rule, i guess, but just changes the /dev node, not the name of the device reported by the device
[17:19] <Egyptian> nacc: what does that do ?
[17:19] <Guest49516> anyone can hel me
[17:19] <nacc> Egyptian: it's what makes grub-set-default do anything, read `man grub-set-default`
[17:19] <jackhum_> nacc, can you link me some web page or something , which explain more
[17:19] <ads20000> Guest49516: just ask your question :)
[17:19] <nacc> jackhum_: i don't have one handy. Are you trying to change the string reported by lspci or something?
[17:19] <Egyptian> i must have missed it .. ok thanks
[17:20] <SlidingHorn> !ask | Guest49516 (also, change your nick to something more unique so it's easier to help you)
[17:20] <Donald_ET3> Gargravarr: Well, I was thinking of writing an implementation of RC6. I presume "roll your own crypto" means designing your own algorithm, not writing your own implementation of a proven algorithm, right? Especially if the test vectors match.
[17:20] <Gargravarr> Donald_ET3: i meant, only use it to learn about crypto. don't use it to encrypt anything important :)
[17:20] <Guest49516> i will try to learn a hack web
[17:20] <Egyptian> patience is song
[17:21] <Donald_ET3> hmmm
[17:22] <jackhum_> nacc, EasyCamera (usb-0000:00:14.0-4):
[17:22] <jackhum_> nacc, v4l2-ctl --list-devices ,  i am using this command to list webcam attached
[17:23] <jackhum_> nacc, i want to change name of EasyCamera to some variable xyz
[17:23] <jnewt> i can't use my nfs share.  i think it's because my uid / gid ended up different on the client than on the server.   i can't seem to find an easy way to change my user's uid & gid on the client to match.
[17:24] <nacc> jackhum_: yeah, that's not really something you do
[17:24] <nacc> jackhum_: nor is it worht it
[17:24] <jackhum_> nacc, lol, why dont we do this
[17:24] <nacc> jackhum_: beucase that string comes from the hardware device
[17:25] <jnewt> if i could even manage to change it, it'd probably mess up all my local file permissions right?
[17:25] <jackhum_> nacc, i am using this software that is webcamstudio , and it create a sort of spoof video cam for me , i wanna change its name
[17:25] <nacc> jackhum_: i don't know about it
[17:25] <nacc> jnewt: it's an nfs mount option, iirc
[17:25] <jackhum_> nacc, okay :(
[17:27] <bn_work> anyone?
[17:28] <jnewt> nacc, i have the man page up for nfs & exports for my bsd system.  are you referring to the maproot / mapall stuff?   i don't understand those at all.
[17:28] <nacc> bn_work: it's in `man service` here
[17:29] <bn_work> nacc: what ver?
[17:30] <nacc> bn_work: i'm on 18.04
[17:30] <bn_work> nacc:  I have `0.91-ubuntu1`
[17:30] <nacc> bn_work: let me pastebin
[17:30] <bn_work> nacc: thanks!
[17:30] <nacc> bn_work: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6wxCbmshHT/
[17:32] <bn_work> nacc:  thanks, that's what I suspected :/  I guess the 2nd answer to this question is a bit misleading then:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/218/command-to-list-services-that-start-on-startup
[17:32] <nacc> jnewt: something like this: https://serverfault.com/questions/514118/mapping-uid-and-gid-of-local-user-to-the-mounted-nfs-share
[17:32] <nacc> jnewt: i haven't used nfs in a long time
[17:33] <sky887> !isitoutyet
[17:35] <bn_work> nacc:  how do you check to see if a service is enabled to run on boot, besides `ls`-ing /etc/rc[0-6].d/S*`?
[17:36] <nacc> bn_work: i do not know for sure
[17:52] <maszlo> I am looking to troubleshoot dns.. specifically what dns is pulled from dhcp lease.. where is my best place to look?
[17:53] <maszlo> when i dont specify a dns, nslook reports that its looking up from <IP_ADDRESS>  Which does not seem correct
[17:54] <BluesKaj> maszlo, in your router firmware for starters, but <IP_ADDRESS> is correct atm
[17:55] <maszlo> BluesKaj: i know what my dhcp server should be handing out.  but an not seeing that in my ubuntu system and its not resolving local servers corrrectly
[17:55] <maszlo> which is why i am asking
[17:55] <nacc> maszlo: <IP_ADDRESS> is sytemd-resolved
[17:56] <nacc> *systemd-resolved, running locally
[17:56] <maszlo> where are its sources then?
[17:56] <nacc> maszlo: depends on your network, but you can run `systemd-resolve --status` iirc
[17:58] <ash_work> do you really need a tool to disable effects on unity?
[17:58] <ash_work> like there isn't just a conf file? or even a gui?
[17:58] <nacc> ash_work: unity tweak or something?
[17:59] <ash_work> nacc: yes, that's what I've read
[17:59] <ash_work> but I feel like, wtf, really?
[17:59] <maszlo> nacc: weird because it shows the proper dns from that command but its not resolving correctly
[17:59] <nacc> maszlo: you can then use systemd-resolve to see how it resolves addresses
[18:00] <nacc> ash_work: the default is unity with effects. If you want to chagne it, you use the tweak tool; same is true on gnome, basically (although not with effects by default)
[18:00] <maszlo> nacc: can i turn off the local dns so it just uses the dns servers i built?
[18:00] <nacc> maszlo: yes, i think you can, but it's not 'local dns', it's dns forwarded to other things
[18:00] <nacc> maszlo: in any case, you can, you can choose to not use systemd-resolved, you can do whatever you want
[18:01] <maszlo> nacc: i thought it was similar to dnsmasq
[18:01] <maszlo> sort of like a local cache
[18:01] <nacc> maszlo: not really, and dnsmasq is way more than a cache
[18:01] <Younder> So gnome desktop is the only option in 18.04?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> maszlo, you can set DNS in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf iirc
[18:02] <nacc> Younder: well, in 'ubuntu' yes. You can install unity after, or you can install kubuntu, xubuntu, etc.
[18:02] <Younder> nacc, right thx
[18:03] <gogeta> nacc, well not unity its dead
[18:03] <nacc> gogeta: no it's not, it's just in universe
[18:03] <nacc> gogeta: unity7; unity8 is dead, yes
[18:03] <Younder> Like we say in Lisp, it's not dead it just smells funny
[18:04] <nacc> although i believe it was forked to yunit or whatever
[18:04] <gogeta> Younder, thers lots of ubuntu spinoffs with diffrent window managers kubuntu xubuntu ubuntu budgie lubuntu etc
[18:05] <sudormrf> ok back with the cron job thing
[18:05] <sudormrf> it still isn't actually doing what it should
[18:05] <sudormrf> it's a simple job
[18:05] <Younder> gogeta, cinamon
[18:05] <ash_work> why do people like terminator?
[18:05] <gogeta> Younder, yup
[18:05] <ash_work> I'm clearly missing something
[18:06] <uplime> some people just like different things?
[18:06] <sudormrf> this is the script
[18:06] <sudormrf> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BFRkH984kn/
[18:06] <nacc> ash_work: perhaps better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:06] <ash_work> nacc: thanks
[18:07] <sudormrf> and this is the crontab for root: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HnGdnWyQst/
[18:07] <sudormrf> syslog shows it tried to kick off the job
[18:07] <gogeta> uplime, kinda the point of linux choice lol
[18:07] <sudormrf> but nmap isn't running and nmap log files (-oA) aren't dumped in to the correct folder
[18:08] <nacc> sudormrf: does it work when you run it by hand?
[18:08] <nacc> sudormrf: also you should use an absolute path to 'date'
[18:08] <sudormrf> nacc, yes
[18:08] <sudormrf> ahhh
[18:08] <sudormrf> hmm
[18:08] <nacc> sudormrf: note that a cron environment is very limited
[18:08] <nacc> sudormrf: espeically PATH and other thing syou assume work normally
[18:09] <sudormrf> yeah
[18:10] <maszlo> nacc: disabling systemd resolved did work for me.  thanks
[18:11] <tda> auditors: "I want a complete map of the network showing all devices, servers, ports, services, and toasters" also auditors, looking at output of nmap: "....dafuq is this?"
[18:11] <SlidingHorn> tda: watch the language please :)
[18:12] <tda> sorry, meant that for another room
[18:17] <alma> Hey
[18:22] <sudormrf> nacc, even setting the path to date doesn't work.
[18:22] <sudormrf> kind of scratching my head about this one
[18:23] <sudormrf> kick off the script manually, everything works (with hardcoded paths), cron says it is executing the script, but not dumping logs. I suppose I should try and generate an error log
[18:23] <sudormrf> see if that will help
[18:24] <mick_> hello
[18:24] <antonm> Hello mick_
[18:25] <mick_> what am i doing here^
[18:25] <armiranda> Seems like the most common cause of problems like that (works fine on the command line, fails from cron) are missing some env variable, and/or PATH not being set right. But trying to get some sort of log should probably be the next move.
[18:27] <pikapika> Hi
[18:28] <pikapika> Is there any program that can selectively mirror packages from the official repository? apt-mirror seems to be all or nothing based on what is present in sources.list
[18:28] <pragmaticenigma> sudormrf: To troubleshoot from cron, I usually add " > /home/{user}/job.log 2>&1" which will save the output to a file in your home directory
[18:28] <sudormrf> pragmaticenigma, yeah, just did that
[18:28] <sudormrf> and the results are interesting
[18:29] <pikapika> The total download is huge. Most of them I probably wont even need. So is there something which I can use like: progname package1 package2 ... packageN and it will store local repo of these and all their dependencies?
[18:29] <sudormrf> "/bin/sh: 1: /root/scripts/doot.sh: not found"
[18:29] <sudormrf> even though it is there
[18:29] <sudormrf> hmm
[18:29] <pragmaticenigma> sudormrf: one thought is environmental differences... cron does not initialize the same environment as would happen when your launching from your user (or even root)
[18:29] <pikapika> Even better if it can download category wise according to this page: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[18:30] <sudormrf> pragmaticenigma, yes, I am aware
[18:32] <nacc> sudormrf: how are you running it manually?
[18:32] <nacc> sudormrf: also, is the script executable?
[18:32] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: you might want to look into apt cacher
[18:33] <sudormrf> nacc, ./doot.sh, yes.
[18:34] <nacc> sudormrf: well that's not how cron executes it
[18:34] <nacc> sudormrf: you need to test the exact same command
[18:34] <nacc> sudormrf: are you in /root/scripts when you do that?
[18:34] <sudormrf> yes
[18:34] <sudormrf> hmm
[18:34] <sudormrf> ok
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> Is the command in cron /root/scripts/doot.sh ... and not ./doot.sh
[18:35] <tda> doesn't cron mail you the output of the script?
[18:35] <sudormrf> yes, just tried it
[18:35] <pikapika> pragmaticenigma, will it only work for packages I newly installed after setting it up?
[18:35] <sudormrf> failed
[18:35] <sudormrf> ok
[18:35] <nacc> tda: not by default, iirc
[18:35] <nacc> tda: at least, not in this case, where it fails to run
[18:35] <nacc> sudormrf: ok, so you know what to debug :)
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika: I don't know, you will need to read the documentation to find out if it suits your needs
[18:35] <sudormrf> nacc, yeah, looking now where the "default" folder is
[18:37] <sudormrf> nacc, I changed the crontab to "sh /root/scans/doot.sh" it said "sh: 0: Can't open /root/scripts/doot.sh", when I manually type "sh /root/scans/doot.sh" it works
[18:37] <nacc> sudormrf: uh, those are rather different paths.
[18:37] <sudormrf> ahhh
[18:37] <sudormrf> yes
[18:37] <nacc>  /root/scripts and /root/scans
[18:37] <sudormrf> I'm stupid :P
[18:37] <sudormrf> yea
[18:37] <sudormrf> that's it
[18:37] <nacc> PEBKAC? :)
[18:37] <sudormrf> ahah
[18:37] <pikapika> pragmaticenigma, apt cacher seems like a solution to a potential problem I have been worrying about anyways. Thanks
[18:39] <sudormrf> nacc, yeah it was a PEBKAC. it's working now. thanks :D
[18:42] <nacc> sudormrf: np :)
[18:43] <ubuntu_> Hi. I have activated ubuntu app indicators
[18:43] <ubuntu_> But for example hexchat's tray icon does not show up
[18:44] <ubuntu_> is there something else to activate?
[18:52] <ploover> Hello
[18:53] <ploover> I had a bit of a question, since I'm new to Ubuntu and I couldn't find anything with an internet search
[18:54] <ploover> I am getting errors from apt after removing a package using dpkg, compiling the package I needed from source and now apt is giving me a dependency error
[18:54] <ploover> Doesn't let me install new packages nor upgrade my current ones.
[18:54] <ploover> Any ideas?
[18:54] <leftyfb> ploover: what version of ubuntu?
[18:54] <ploover> Uh
[18:55] <ploover> Ubuntu Budgie
[18:55] <ploover> I know it's not for this channel
[18:55] <tgm4883> ploover: compiling like that is probably what caused it
[18:55] <ploover> But this is more of a Debian question
[18:55] <tgm4883> ploover: that's fine for this channel
[18:55] <ploover> Yeah but I have the package I need
[18:55] <leftyfb> !budgie
[18:55] <ploover> I want apt to leave me alone.
[18:55] <leftyfb> ploover: cat /etc/issue
[18:55] <ploover> Lemme get my laptop
[18:56] <tgm4883> ploover: The correct way to do that would have been to create a package for it and install that package
[18:56] <ploover> the output is 'Ubuntu 18.04 LTS \n \1;
[18:56] <ploover> Sorry, I come from Arch, I wasn't made aware
[18:56] <ploover> How do I go about doing that?
[18:57] <ploover> There are a lot of packages I want to use that are not in the official repos, so I would definitely appreciate the help
[18:57] <tgm4883> ploover: what packages?
[18:57] <ioria> ploover, you are new to Ubuntu and install a not - yet- release version ?
[18:57] <ploover> i3-gaps, alacritty, termite, there were some others as well
[18:58] <ploover> ioria: well, I thought that Ubuntu was the begginer friendly Linux distro, coming from Arch I thought I could handle it
[18:58] <ploover> But I have no experience with debian based distros
[18:58] <leftyfb> what's the point of a "GPU-accelerated terminal emulator"?
[18:58] <ploover> It's fast.
[18:58] <ploover> Also it's what I prefer
[18:58] <leftyfb> fast?
[18:59] <ploover> Well
[18:59] <ioria> ploover, i see ... well seems that 18.04 is supported now
[18:59] <ploover> If you have the chance to try it out, try working within something like Gnome or Deepin terminals compared to something like urxvt or alacritty
[18:59] <ioria> ploover,  we need the apt error in a pastebinit
[19:00] <ploover> Sure thing
[19:00] <ploover> Wait I think I have an idea
[19:00] <ploover> I installed the i3 package group
[19:00] <ploover> And then changed the window manager
[19:00] <ploover> Maybe I should remove the group and manually install all of the packages
[19:00] <tgm4883> ploover: you should probably just post the error
[19:01] <ploover> Working on it.
[19:03] <ploover> https://pastebin.com/aAz4CygU
[19:03] <ploover> Here you are.
[19:03] <leftyfb> ploover: did you try sudo apt --fix-broken install?
[19:03] <ploover> Yeah it overwrote i3-gaps with i3-wm
[19:04] <leftyfb> then you have a conflict of supported packages with something you installed
[19:04] <ploover> The i3 package group
[19:05] <ploover> I'm used to having a lot more control over my system so I didn't think it wouldn't let me just remove one package
[19:05] <ploover> Made me kind of upset
[19:06] <ioria> ploover,  have you tried to purge i3* ?
[19:06] <ploover> Nope
[19:06] <ploover> What does purge do?
[19:06] <ioria> ploover,  remove pkg and config files
[19:06] <ploover> I was under the impression it removes the package and all of the configuration files.
[19:07] <ploover> Actually you know what
[19:07] <ploover> I'm thinking Ubuntu just isn't for me
[19:07] <ploover> I'm gonna give Solus a try
[19:07] <ioria> unbelievable
[19:08] <leftyfb> no .... please ... come back
[19:08] <SlidingHorn> *wonka meme*
[19:08] <kostkon> -1 user
[19:09] <tgm4883> ok now
[19:18] <jaga_> ping
[19:19] <jaga_> guys anyone suggest me good websites for learning linux commands
[19:20] <jaga_> hello
[19:20] <|RIC|> hi
[19:20] <jaga_> bro are you pro in linux
[19:20] <|RIC|> libqt4-core libqt4-gui
[19:20] <|RIC|> I need to know how to install this packages on linux
[19:20] <|RIC|> ubuntu
[19:21] <|RIC|> jaga_ what are you looking for
[19:21] <|RIC|> linux commands?
[19:21] <|RIC|> you mean you want to play around on the terminal?
[19:21] <jaga_> i m looking for linux commands to improve my skills....
[19:22] <|RIC|> which dist are you on?
[19:22] <jaga_> absolutely you r right
[19:22] <|RIC|> have you installed it on your laptop?
[19:22] <jaga_> chennai
[19:22] <jaga_> chennai dist
[19:22] <|RIC|> is that some city in china?
[19:22] <jaga_> nope its in india
[19:23] <leftyfb> |RIC|: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:23] <|RIC|> is that where you are from?
[19:23] <|RIC|> 17
[19:23] <|RIC|> v17
[19:23] <jaga_> 16
[19:23] <leftyfb> |RIC|: cat /etc/issue
[19:23] <|RIC|> downloaded it yesterday
[19:23] <jaga_> version 16
[19:23] <leftyfb> There is no version 16 or 17
[19:24] <jaga_> 16.04
[19:24] <|RIC|> 17.10
[19:24] <jaga_> what
[19:25] <|RIC|> leftyfb is a bit picky about what lays behind the decimal point
[19:25] <|RIC|> jaga_ did you install it on your laptop by yourself?
[19:25] <SlidingHorn> jaga_ & |RIC| do either of you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:26] <jaga_> yes RIC i have installed by myself
[19:26] <leftyfb> |RIC|: the numbers in the version make a big difference
[19:27] <leftyfb> |RIC|: each releases version number is based on the year and month it was released. It also tells us if that release is still supported.
[19:27] <|RIC|> jaga_ well done mate
[19:27] <|RIC|> https://techlog360.com/basic-ubuntu-commands-terminal-shortcuts-linux-beginner/
[19:27] <|RIC|> I suppose that this is to basic for you then
[19:27] <jaga_> thanks |ric|
[19:27] <leftyfb> |RIC|: Regardless, the packages you might be looking for are libqtgui4 and libqtcore4. But may I ask why you need those?
[19:28] <|RIC|> leftyfb ok fair enough, how so, refering to the major release is not enough for the purpose of our discussion?
[19:28] <leftyfb> it's not a major release
[19:28] <leftyfb> 16.10 is not the latest version of a "16 major release"
[19:28] <|RIC|> leftyfb now you are my mate, please explain the versioning system of linux
[19:29] <leftyfb> 16.10 means it was released in October of 2016
[19:29] <leftyfb> 17.04 means it was released in April of 2017
[19:29] <|RIC|> ok
[19:29] <leftyfb> 16.04 is supposed for another 3 years while 16.10 is completely unsupported
[19:30] <Norux_> leftyfb: Whaaattt... mind = blown
[19:30] <|RIC|> cool, had no idea this was the case, I used to have the full number as the major release and after the decimal for bug fixes which is how I though git workedaswell
[19:30] <leftyfb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:31] <leftyfb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[19:31] <|RIC|> is this only for Ubuntu?
[19:31] <leftyfb> yes
[19:31] <|RIC|> OK
[19:32] <|RIC|> leftyfb libqtgui4 and libqtcore4. did I get the package names wrong?
[19:32] <leftyfb> |RIC|: yes, but why do you need those packages? Any package you install properly should pull down the necessary dependencies
[19:33] <|RIC|> I'm following a little tut on this one which wants me to install them
[19:33] <leftyfb> what are you trying to install?
[19:33] <|RIC|> Now we can install Qt:
[19:33] <|RIC|> sudo apt-get install libqt4-core libqt4-gui libqt4-dev
[19:34] <leftyfb> which tutorial?
[19:34] <|RIC|> https://www.quantstart.com/articles/Installing-a-Desktop-Algorithmic-Trading-Research-Environment-using-Ubuntu-Linux-and-Python
[19:34] <|RIC|> its towards the end of the page
[19:35] <leftyfb> That tutorial is almost 5 years old. I wouldn't be surprised if it might not work
[19:36] <|RIC|> yep that is why I'm here asking the question
[19:36] <leftyfb> You can try it though. If you haven't had any issues so far, you're almost done
[19:36] <leftyfb> |RIC|: try the package names I gave you
[19:38] <Genora51> Hello
[19:39] <|RIC|> leftyfb
[19:40] <|RIC|> how about this one
[19:40] <|RIC|> sudo apt-get install libzmq-dev
[19:40] <ioria> !info libzmq-dev
[19:40] <ioria> !info libzmq3-dev
[19:40] <|RIC|> by the way the package names you gave me worked !!! but was already installed :(
[19:41] <|RIC|> ioria what have we learned from ubottu his response?
[19:41] <ioria> |RIC|, meaning ?
[19:43] <|RIC|> Do I need to use another package name?
[19:43] <ioria> |RIC|,  if you are on 17.10 there is no libzmq-dev  ... the pkg available is libzmq3-dev
[19:43] <|RIC|> Do I need to add the three?
[19:43] <|RIC|> Got it thanks
[19:44] <|RIC|> installed as a charm
[20:00] <T7TT777TT7> anyone know where are the packages located on the install iso? i have a friend who deleted their kernel by accident, trying to figure out how to get one back in /boot
[20:00] <gogeta> T7TT777TT7, you would need to chroot in and reinstall the kernel
[20:00] <gogeta> T7TT777TT7, its more then just throwing the package in
[20:01] <T7TT777TT7> do you know where the packages are located?
[20:01] <EriC^^> T7TT777TT7: /pool/something maybe
[20:01] <T7TT777TT7> i found a Packages.gz but it's only 7.7K
[20:02] <EriC^^> it might not have a linux package
[20:02] <gogeta> T7TT777TT7, as said you need to chroot into the system over the live cd
[20:02] <gogeta> T7TT777TT7, then install the kernel
[20:02] <T7TT777TT7> gogeta: ok but that doesn't answer my question
[20:02] <gogeta> T7TT777TT7, i literly told you how to fix it
[20:03] <T7TT777TT7> i don't know how to "install the kernel" the installer is unusable in qemu
[20:03] <gogeta> T7TT777TT7, once your in the chroot envirment sudo apt-get install linux-image
[20:03] <T7TT777TT7> i'll just keep looking this channel is obviously a waste of time
[20:04] <T7TT777TT7> thx anyway
[20:04] <gogeta> T7TT777TT7, you can just drop the package in thers dependicys and configs
[20:04] <gogeta> cant
[20:05] <T7TT777TT7> i can't drop a kernel into /boot and reinstall grub or whatever ?
[20:05] <Jay_Dogg> Hi, anyone here using 18.04 in a language other than English? If so, could you check what gnome-logs does to your home folder. In my case (18.04 in Finnish), gnome-logs, when opened, creates new default folders (documents, pictures, music etc.) with names in English alongide the existing default folders translated into Finnish
[20:05] <gogeta> Jay_Dogg, !fn
[20:06] <gogeta> Jay_Dogg, well anyways yes there is non english channels
[20:06] <kostkon> !fi
[20:07] <gogeta> Jay_Dogg, yea fi just looked it up lol
[20:07] <T7TT777TT7> i suppose it's all in /casper/filesystem.squashfs
[20:09] <gogeta> T7TT777TT7, hear is a guide on how to restore your kernel https://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[20:09] <T7TT777TT7> no wonder qemu is choking on all the decompression
[20:11] <abdelraouf> Hello guys
[20:11] <abdelraouf> when'll the 18.04 released ? at 00:00 ?
[20:12] <tda> 18:04?
[20:12] <abdelraouf> aha ?
[20:13] <SlidingHorn> There's no set time that I'm aware of
[20:13] <tda> me either. it's available when it's built and on the site/torrents
[20:14] <abdelraouf> okay but it's definitely will be available tomorrow not any day after ?
[20:14] <kostkon> abdelraouf, around afternoon
[20:14] <tda> i dont think its delayed if that's what you're asking
[20:14] <kostkon> abdelraouf, more likely
[20:15] <abdelraouf> okay thanks alot guys :)
[20:15] <kostkon> !party | abdelraouf
[20:15] <abdelraouf> thanks man
[20:16] <kostkon> np
[20:16] <gogeta> and all the repos will crash and the mirrors down
[20:16] <gogeta> like every lts
[20:16] <gogeta> lol
[20:17] <_KaszpiR_> #care
[20:17] <tda> bittorrent
[20:24] <nullius> will 18.04 have flat icons
[20:25] <gogeta> nullius, if you whant them
[20:25] <ice9> how to resize lxd storage pool?
[20:25] <gogeta> nullius, its gnome 3 so you can change everything
[20:25] <nullius> gogeta, cool thanks
[20:30] <DaFooYou> 你好
[20:30] <ash_work> I copied in my ssh keys after a fresh install and I'm getting a password unlock prompt; I don't remember putting a pw on it and I tried all the variations I think ti could possibly be
[20:30] <ash_work> could this be an error?
[20:30] <tda> user error
[20:30] <ash_work> I read on some forums that this might be an error but they were pretty old
[20:30] <pragmaticenigma> ash_work: Have you tried the password from your previous install?
[20:31] <ash_work> pragmaticenigma: given what I've already said, I don't know what that means
[20:31] <DeusExMaximum> The openbox chat seems deserted. I can't find a good tutorial for getting started with openbox. I used to use i3 but want a more aesthetic look out of Ubuntu.
[20:31] <leftyfb> ash_work: is it prompting you for the passphrase of the private key or for the password of the remote user?
[20:31] <ash_work> leftyfb: private key
[20:32] <gogeta> DeusExMaximum, there is a openbox spinoff
[20:32] <ash_work> in a system dialogue
[20:32] <DeusExMaximum> Spinoff?
[20:32] <leftyfb> ash_work: then that is 100% to do with you forgetting the passphrase of your private
[20:32] <ash_work> crap
[20:32] <pragmaticenigma> ash_work: The password that is attached is likely the same password that was used where you copied the keys from
[20:32] <ash_work> pragmaticenigma: right, but like I said
[20:33] <leftyfb> ash_work: you can manually test it with "ssh-add /location/to/private/key"
[20:33] <gogeta> DeusExMaximum, there used to be guess its gone
[20:33] <SlidingHorn> DeusExMaximum: Check out the Arch wiki - their Openbox page is great
[20:33] <ash_work> oh wow
[20:33] <ash_work> I got an unprotected key warning
[20:34] <leftyfb> permissions?
[20:34] <ash_work> yeah :\
[20:34] <leftyfb> :)
[20:34] <leftyfb> easy fix
[20:34] <leftyfb> and again, I was wrong :)
[20:34] <DeusExMaximum> SlidingHorn: thanks fam
[20:35] <leftyfb> ash_work: future reference, a -v added to your ssh key would have told you about the permission issue
[20:35] <leftyfb> er
[20:35] <leftyfb> added to your ssh command
[20:35] <SlidingHorn> DeusExMaximum: also, lubuntu/lxde uses openbox if I remember correctly if you want an official spin
[20:35] <ash_work> it was git clone
[20:35] <gogeta> DeusExMaximum, thers also a ubuntu fourm post https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2359926
[20:35] <leftyfb> ash_work: git doesn't set permissions on files
[20:36] <gogeta> DeusExMaximum, if you looking to jus have a light wm look at lubuntu
[20:37] <DaFooYou> quit
[20:38] <ash_work> leftyfb: I mean the "ssh command" was git clone
[20:38] <leftyfb> ah
[20:38] <ash_work> anyway, yes it still prompts me
[20:38] <ash_work> damn it
[20:38] <ash_work> wait
[20:38] <ash_work> it didn't give an error when I just press enter
[20:39] <ash_work> okay, so the prompt doesn't go away though when I just press enter
[20:39] <ash_work> this maybe *is* a bug
[20:40] <ash_work> does anyone know how to solve this?
[20:40] <leftyfb> ash_work: did you unlock the key with ssh-add ?
[20:41] <ash_work> leftyfb: I did `ssh-add <key>` ... it prompted for a pw, and I just pressed enter; then it just shows the PS
[20:41] <leftyfb> the PS?
[20:41] <ash_work> PS1
[20:41] <ash_work> it does nothing
[20:41] <leftyfb> ok
[20:41] <ash_work> no output
[20:41] <leftyfb> ssh-add -l
[20:41] <leftyfb> do you see your key listed there?
[20:42] <ash_work> I see something there, which is likely it
[20:42] <ash_work> I mean, I haven't created any new ones, so that's gotta be it
[20:42] <leftyfb> ok
[20:42] <ash_work> I guess maybe logging out and in might get rid of the prompt?
[20:42] <leftyfb> now try to ssh to something that has the public key for this private key
[20:43] <ash_work> brb
[20:44] <pi__> hello
[20:45] <McGamer> how are you
[20:45] <ash_work_> also, the skype window always boots up at start up but is unresponsive
[20:46] <McGamer> you can go to your startup settings and remove it from the list
[20:46] <ash_work_> damn it; I can't really test direct ssh
[20:47] <McGamer> you can also install "htop" and close it from the terminal
[20:48] <leftyfb> ash_work_: why not?
[20:49] <geggam> how do i see user add and delete on ubuntu with systemd ?
[20:50] <ash_work_> well, it asks for a pw, and I assume the git conf is somehow enabling a no_password configuration for this user
[20:50] <ash_work_> (I don't have the git user password)
[20:50] <ash_work_> (the remote git user password)
[20:54] <ash_work_> is there a terminal command to automatically unlock when I log-in?
[20:58] <Elysium3301> Can't wait for tomorrow!!!
[21:02] <iceiceice> hi have a quick question
[21:03] <iceiceice> at work we are using an ubuntu PPA: toolchain-r-test
[21:03] <iceiceice> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test
[21:03] <iceiceice> we are installing gcc-5 from this PPA into our docker image
[21:03] <iceiceice> however, yesterday, gcc-5 was upreved from gcc-5.4 to gcc-5.5
[21:03] <T7TT777TT7> what's tomorrow?
[21:03] <iceiceice> is there any way that I can get an old package that used to be in the PPA?
[21:04] <iceiceice> or it is definitely gone forever?
[21:06] <T7TT777TT7> iceiceice: does 5.5 break something?
[21:07] <iceiceice> yes nvcc doesn't work with 5.5 yet
[21:07] <iceiceice> the nvidia people need to release a new SDK or whatever
[21:07] <iceiceice> all the cuda compilations fail
[21:10] <ash_work_> is there any reason to wait for bionic to land before installing it?
[21:10] <T7TT777TT7> oh a newbuntu is coming out tomorrow?
[21:10] <tda> i think someone mentioned an installer bug fix earlier
[21:10] <miro__> g
[21:12] <ash_work_> T7TT777TT7: the 28th I think
[21:19] <ash_work_> and I think I'm gonna see what happens when I try using a key with a passphrase I know on a new install
[21:19] <ash_work_> what are the odds I run into the same bug?
[21:21] <ash_work_> omg git clone is going so slow
[21:22] <katnip> 26th tomorrow
[21:24] <adarc> i installed 18.04 on my lap today, not waiting until tommorow. I like to live dangerously
[21:25] <neutral_second> :P
[21:26] <katnip> it's pretty stable now
[22:24] <Davuki> hello
[22:25] <Davuki> ...
[22:25] <antonm> Hi
[22:25] <Davuki> Woah
[22:25] <Davuki> This actually works Hehe
[22:27] <Davuki> well goodbye
[22:29] <Davuki> errrrrrrrrrrrrr
[22:31] <PetlessZuy> Hey, anyone in here? I think I royally screwed my directory.
[22:31] <antonm> PetlessZuy, how?
[22:32] <Petlesszuy_> Got disconnected... anyway, here's a screenshot of the error https://imgur.com/wUOV6F2
[22:33] <gogeta> PetlessZuy, umm you must construct additional pylons
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Petlesszuy_: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list .
[22:34] <Petlesszuy_> Sure, gimme the second
[22:35] <Petlesszuy_> hmmm...
[22:35] <Petlesszuy_> It's literally just this sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install spotify-client
[22:36] <Jordan_U> Petlesszuy_: And it shouldn't be. Do you know how that text got in that file?
[22:36] <Petlesszuy_> I probably did it to be honset, I don't quite remember how as I haven't used this system in around a year.
[22:37] <Petlesszuy_> Here's the sources.list if you think it will help https://pastebin.com/NdxypvgH
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Petlesszuy_: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list
[22:39] <Petlesszuy_> Waiting on it, this is an old dual pentium system so it might take a moment
[22:39] <valla> Hi, I just upgraded a server to 16.04.4 from 14 and mysql-server would not install / upgrade. After doing '/etc/init.d/mysql stop' the installer continued and I could reboot but I can not get mysql-server to either start or install again after. apt install -f just gives error
[22:39] <valla> Renaming removed key_buffer and myisam-recover options (if present)
[22:39] <valla> initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[22:39] <valla> any pro tip?
[22:40] <valla> seems like the rest of the upgrade process worked
[22:40] <Jordan_U> valla: Have you rebooted since upgrading? Nothing should be trying to access upstart as upstart is no longer used in 16.04.
[22:40] <valla> Jordan_U: yeah I rebooted at least once
[22:41] <valla> I think I have some conflicts for sure
[22:41] <Jordan_U> valla: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[22:41] <Jordan_U> valla: Actually wait, before you do that...
[22:41] <coolchris> should a driver compile be the same on bionic beaver and blacklisting done the same way as before?
[22:42] <Jordan_U> valla: How did you upgrade?
[22:42] <valla> just do-release-upgrade
[22:42] <Jordan_U> valla: OK, good. Then please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[22:43] <hggdh> coolchris: probably yes, but YMMV due to changes in the kernel
[22:43] <coolchris> ok thanks
[22:44] <Jordan_U> coolchris: What driver are you trying to compile? What guide are you following? Have you tested to see if an out of tree driver is even required any more for your hardware?
[22:45] <valla> Jordan_U: //termbin.com/0lxr
[22:45] <valla> erm http://termbin.com/0lxr
[22:45] <coolchris> when i get bionic beaver i have to compile driver for software defined radio the driver that comes weith ubuntu uses it for a radio in europe but radio driver repurposes it
[22:45] <coolchris> or i mean it supposed to be for tv in europe
[22:47] <valla> Jordan_U: I got the screen log from the upgrade process also if that would help
[22:47] <coolchris> https://ranous.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/rtl-sdr4linux_quickstartv2-18.pdf that is the guide
[22:48] <Petlesszuy_> That did it, thanks Jordan_U
[22:48] <Petlesszuy_> Stilly I did that to myself
[23:01] <onitlikesonic> Can anyone lend me a hand on ubuntu partitioning? i got the following https://pastebin.com/zPRcUinj and i am looking to get (a fixed 10GB / partition)  + (a fixed 1GB SWAP) +(all the rest of the space in an ext4 partition) howevr at the moment all is being put into the swap! crazy!
[23:15] <valla> Jordan_U: did you check the paste?
[23:22] <DrNoNeck_> Nick DrNoNeck
[23:27] <jahtemg> I guess this ia a very common question, but how many hours till the LTS release ?
[23:30] <guiverc> jahtemg, there is no set 'time', Canonical only say the day of release.
[23:31] <jahtemg> I heard there was a huge fail with bricks and stuff
[23:33] <jahtemg> Isn't there something like "Canonical standard time" ?
[23:35] <guiverc> jahtemg, its a huge job, so problems are expected and occur every release i'm sure.  i no longer watch that closely (you can predict its 'time' in the hour-or-two prior as mirrors get ready), but i'm sure it'll come out today/thursday UST time
[23:36] <nullius> prepared my usb stick and everything still waiting
[23:37] <nullius> lol
[23:37] <jahtemg> Same lol
[23:37] <nullius> i guess it's a few hours then
[23:47] <jahtemg> Silox ?
[23:49] <silox> Hello, I wanted to see if anyone could verify that both Landscape (on premises install) and MAAS will both function on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS that's scheduled to be released tomorrow.  Any help would be appreciated as I'd like to use 18.04 for a Landscape/MAAS deployment for an entire datacenter.
[23:50] <minimec> nullius: jahtemg: Why don't you just go with the last 'daily build' and avoid all the 'traffic jam' after the official release? Just an idea... ;)
[23:51] <minimec> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[23:52] <jahtemg> Webpage is still not updated
[23:53] <nullius> minimec, good idea although i like the anticipation of the wait. think i will use the torrent when it comes to ease the demand
[23:53] <silox> Also, does anyone know if 18.04 is released right at midnight on the 26th in a particular time zone or later in the day?
[23:54] <jahtemg> I asked this question already @syilox. Canonical only gives date.
[23:54] <jahtemg> silox*, sorry
[23:54] <silox> ok, thanks for the info
[23:55] <jahtemg> It's just me who thinks moving buttons to the right was a bad idea ? :)
[23:55] <silox> I think you can move them back
[23:55] <silox> I probably will, I've gotten used to the left side now
[23:56] <Jarcyk9> hi
[23:56] <jahtemg> Yup... somehow it feels better to have them near the launcher... at least as if its at its default position
[23:59] <minimec> nullius: Well... I don't want to spoil your expectations, but it works fine. ;) I tested Ubuntu and Ubuntu Mate for weeks now...