[00:39] <gfallbackjcbv> anyone here
[00:40] <GridCube> !anyone
[00:44] <gfallbackjcbv> im trying to install muse 2.1.2 and its not compiling saying does not know command
[00:50] <GridCube> can you paste the message to a pastebin please?
[02:51] <holstein> gfallbackjcbv: what command? what is the exact error? where are you getting the packages from?
[03:21] <ddragon> Hi
[03:22] <ddragon> anyone here?
[08:19] <prpl_> alibi
[13:03] <uuser100> I don't know, if this is the right chatroom. I have an audio issue. I use Ubuntu 12.10. and Jitsi. During a video call there is a very bad echo. I read on the internet, that the next version of PulseAudio(I have 2.1.) has a way better echo cancellation. I don't want to upgrade to the next Ubuntu version and would like to know if there is a possibility just to upgrade PulseAudio and not Ubuntu?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> uuser100, of course.  get the latest from the PA website or compile it yourself and install.
[13:26] <uuser100> cfhowlett, and should I uninstall PulseAudio 2.1?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> uuser100, sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio will do that.
[13:36] <uuser100> cfhowlett, and this will not crash my system? I have not many skills to fix it than.
[13:38] <cfhowlett> uuser100, without knowing more about why  the default is acting up,I can't say.  moreover, I only boot LTS so, I'm still in 12.04.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> uuser100, could be that your video calling speeds/services are at fault, not ubuntu.  I did some video conferencing last week from China and it ALL sounded bad - but for China, that's normal.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> uuser100, is it ONLY video that gets stupid?
[13:45] <uuser100> cfhowlett, the sound itself is quit good, but there is an echo, which makes the conversation very difficult. And it is a call within Europa.
[13:46] <cfhowlett> uuser100,  try a different connection and a different video call, e.g. skype.
[13:46] <cfhowlett> OR go ahead and upgrade your PA and see if that fixes it.
[13:49] <uuser100> OK, if there is a possibility to get a package for 12.10. without compiling? I am not that good at it.
[13:50] <zequence> uuser100: you might want to check if you can find a PPA for it.
[13:51] <uuser100> zequence, I am trying, but had no success till now.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> uuser100, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Download/   I'll send you a bill for the 15 seconds of googling this search consumed
[13:52] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:52] <uuser100> cfhowlett, thanks : )
[13:56] <uuser100> cfhowlett, I had this page already opened, but did not find a PPA in the way I know it in Ubuntu. Sorry, but I am still learning.
[13:58] <cfhowlett> no apologies needed.
[13:58] <cfhowlett> the git seems to be for developers.  full "older" versions are what you want.  see the link on the page.  sorry.  gtg
[14:18] <trond_> how to install silverlig
[14:22] <zequence> trond_: silverlight? You can't
[14:22] <zequence> what do you need it for?
[14:23] <trond_> watch tv
[14:23] <zequence> netflix? or just anything?
[14:24] <zequence> You might be able to install silverlight in wine, not sure, and it might not work anyway
[14:24] <trond_> tv2 Norway
[14:24] <zequence> trond_: You should tell them to stop using silverlight
[14:24] <zequence> flash is bad enough
[16:23] <Felishia> ubuntu studio?... wait this is a program I suppose and not about music inside linux
[20:32] <dtor> i just installed ubuntustudio 13.10 on my sony laptop. it's great, but my firefox will stop playing audio if i open hydrogen at the same time
[20:34] <dtor> if i do a "sudo alsa force-reload" it will fix the audio in firefox, but then hydrogen audio stops working until i restart
[20:50] <dcosnet> hi all
[20:51] <dcosnet> anyone got wine and multilib installing on 64bit 13.10 ubuntu studio?
[20:53] <dcosnet> or am i better off just doing a multilib studio setup manually? haha
[20:54] <dcosnet> downloading so i can test that scenario in a vm
[20:55] <dcosnet> i tried it native on a laptop last weekend and entire system broke, but i wasnt trying to hard either
[20:55] <dcosnet> side tracked that day
[20:56] <dcosnet> i didnt see ia32-libs though in apt repo's when i had looked which didnt help at all
[21:26] <arthus> tf643hrh
[21:58] <dcosnet> ps. ubuntu studio doesnt like being in a vm to much. at least not with default video driver cirus. changing to vga was fine.
[22:04] <Guest33817> mahlzeit, jemand da?
[22:10] <ltd-wheeler> hallo?
[23:44] <robford> Hi all, just installed US 13.10. One problem I have. I used Hydrogen and since closing it, I have no audio on youtube, clementine etc until I reboot. Can anyone please advise?
[23:45] <robford> Do I need to do something with JAck/ALSA??
[23:51] <robford> Anybody?
[23:54] <zequence> robford: What are you using to start jack with?
[23:54] <zequence> !proaudio
[23:54] <zequence> You can pipe desktop audio to jack, if you want
[23:55] <zequence> start jackdbus (default qjackctl settings), open pulseaudio settings and set output to jack
[23:56] <robford> I dont lol (Sorry I am a noob). I start US and then just open Hydrogen (Sound on youtube before this is fine), Hydrogen works fine and then when I close it, there's no sound from Web browser or media player, I suspect I'm missing something obvious?
[23:59] <robford> Ok, I've opened qjackctl


[08:40] <gnomefreak> can someone please change the b ots output in #ubuntu+1 to quantal output? please
[08:44] <tsimpson> gnomefreak: done
[08:49] <gnomefreak> tsimpson: thanks


[20:51] <durrell> I really want to know what kind of drugs the Ubuntu devs were smoking when they designed Unity
[20:51] <holstein> lol
[20:51] <holstein> its coming along i think
[20:51] <holstein> when more customization is available
[20:51] <durrell> Some aspects of it are decent, others are completely..non-intuitive
[20:51] <holstein> that will help
[20:51] <holstein> well, to be honest
[20:51] <holstein> i dont think its ever going to work for me
[20:52] <durrell> I did manage to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 without completely destroying my install, so that's good
[20:52] <holstein> but, its great whats happened in such a short time
[20:52] <durrell> Yeah, well unfortunately GNOME3 looks similar
[20:52] <holstein> i have only test installs of 10.10 and 11.04
[20:52] <durrell> Everything other than my desktop is staying on 10.04 until the next LTS release
[20:53] <holstein> yeah
[20:53] <durrell> Is there any way to customize Unity? I can barely find the menus.
[20:53] <holstein> i think ill be using xfce then
[20:53] <holstein> durrell: it will come
[20:53] <holstein> customization
[20:53] <holstein> they just wanted to get it out
[20:53] <holstein> and not be broken
[20:53] <durrell> Gotcha
[20:54] <durrell> Ok, I'm going to switch to Ubuntu Classic then before I rage lol..brb


[00:35] <aquarius> brb
[00:36] <aquarius> re
[00:36] <aquarius> o hai silner :)
[00:36] <silner> Hello aquarius
[00:37] <aquarius> am just testing ecryptfs.
[00:38] <aquarius> I think that ought to work fine: that is, set up an Encrypted Private Directory, as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory, which gives you ~/Private
[00:38] <aquarius> then mark ~/.Private (note the dot) as synced with Ubuntu One.
[00:39] <aquarius> am just testing the latter part now.
[00:39] <silner> That's what we use to encrypt home right? Although I don't do that. I'm only paranoid with other people's data :)
[00:40] <aquarius> Right, ecryptfs can also encrypt your entire home folder, but I haven't thought about that for this example; that's more complex and might not work well with U1. (It might work fine, but I'm not prepared to encrypt my home folder in order to test it :))
[00:40] <silner> I don't blame you :)
[00:42] <aquarius> OK. I have created an encrypted private directory (~/Private), and I have synced its underlying encrypted folder (~/.Private) with U1, and that seems to have worked fine.
[00:43] <aquarius> yep; adding new files to Private happily syncs their encrypted versions to U1
[00:44] <aquarius> obviously, storing encrypted files in U1 means that you miss out on some of the benefits of U1 -- if those files are music, you can't stream them; publishing the files is worthless, etc -- but if you want encrypted files stored in U1, you're already prepared to miss out in that way.
[00:44] <aquarius> so, that seems fine to me.
[00:44] <silner> That's great. I'll start using that tomorrow. It'll be a lot more automatic for that purpose
[00:44] <aquarius> let me be clear: there may be weirdness here that I have not explored and might go wrong :)
[00:45] <aquarius> don't put your only copy of a critical file in this setup until you've tested it a bit :)
[00:45] <silner> I'd never seen that page you linked. It just goes to show I should read the whole of the manual :)
[00:45] <aquarius> In my opinion, this should work fine, though.
[00:46] <aquarius> I'll confirm that with verterok (U1) and dustin (ecryptfs) before writing it up :)
[00:46] <silner> I supppose I'll have to run a test. Not my usual method, but I better be careful
[00:46] <aquarius> *nod* I've often said to people "this method should work fine", but never actually tried it.
[00:46] <aquarius> so far it seems OK :)
[00:48] <aquarius> so, that was solved nice and easily :0
[00:49] <silner> Thanks for that. I'm grateful
[00:49]  * aquarius laughs
[00:49] <aquarius> not a problem.
[00:49] <silner> Truecrypt works but it's a bore to use in this context
[00:50] <silner> I have to sleep now :)
[00:50] <silner> Goodnight
[00:54] <aquarius> no worries! thanks :)
[03:16] <karni> aquarius: I can't find the bug report, but I think some file names where too long in ~/.Private (at least happened in the encrypted home variant I think) and syncing it with U1 ended up quite bad. Not sure what broke, and I can't find the bug report now, but I've read it was nasty.
[08:18] <Chase> I'm having trouble setting up a filelink with Ubuntu One. It tells me there is an error while trying to setup my account. Am I in the right spot to get help or should I be asking in the thunderbird Irc channel
[08:49] <aquarius> karni, hm, that's useful info, although worrisome that it happens at all
[08:49] <aquarius> Scourking, you are in a good spot to get help, but I'm not sure who'll be around on a Sunday morning :)
[08:49] <aquarius> Scourking, I'd help myself but I have to leave in about five minutes to drive my daughter to a dance exam...
[09:17] <Scourking> thx im in no rush
[09:17] <Scourking> getting ready to go to bed will deal with it monday
[19:06] <ScourKing> Hi I need some help with the filelink settings and Ubuntu One. I cant get it to connect and setup the account. I am not sure if I need to be asking here or in the thunderbird channel for help.


[12:03] <JulienH> Are there any bounties for ubuntu-server ?
[01:15] <lamont> hrm.. I wonder if vrms needs some updating to be ubuntu-friendly
[01:40] <ajmitch> lamont: it should work for restricted/multiverse, last I heard
[01:43] <lamont> ajmitch: 1.9 just looks for Section: non-free
[01:44] <ajmitch> 1.11 looks for restricted & multiverse as well
[01:44] <lamont> ah, cool
[01:44] <lamont> saves me uploading it. :-)
[01:44] <ajmitch> yep, it's good when ubuntu changes get to debian :)
[06:55] <spike> ubijtsa: hey there, should be time for u to wake up :P
[06:55] <spike> ubijtsa: just leaving you a link... look what I steppd into... hehe ---> http://www.lifewithdjbdns.com/ :)
[11:23] <Valandil> hi all :)
[11:24] <Valandil> fabbione: did someone open a list yet? for the proprietary stuff?
[11:44] <fabbione> Valandil: no, you are welcome to start it.
[11:51] <daq4th> infinity: awake?
[11:53] <infinity> daq4th: Sort of.
[11:53] <infinity> daq4th: Weekends are spotty.  I run in and out a lot. :)
[11:54] <fabbione> infinity: /msg
[11:55] <tuhl> what we need is more info about the buildd emvironment
[11:55] <tuhl> where to get - how to integrate
[11:55] <tuhl> ...
[11:57] <infinity> There's a fair chance that if this stuff is getting uploaded to ports.ubuntu.com, I'll be the one setting up the build environment on your VM...
[11:58] <infinity> And depending on whether we start now or sometime later, it will either use the current (buildd/sbuild/wanna-build) infrastructure, or the upcoming launchpad build infrastructure.
[11:58] <tuhl> infinity: I think we should wait for the new env
[11:58] <tuhl> if it becomes ready next month
[11:59] <infinity> In theory, it should be ready in early/mid February.
[11:59] <tuhl> ok
[11:59] <tuhl> so decision is up to you daq4th
[12:02] <daq4th> i would be great to start asap ...
[12:02] <daq4th> but if i check my schedule ... next two or three weeks are very busy ...
[12:02] <daq4th> and then we have early feb ;-)
[12:04] <infinity> Heh, isn't that how it always goes?
[12:05] <infinity> Perhaps, then, we should discuss this around the time of the Ubuntu distro sprint (early feb), where we expect to be switching to the launchpad infrastructure.
[12:05] <daq4th> infinity: what do we need as prereqs?
[12:06] <infinity> At that point, we'll have to evaluate how to do launchpad builds on external machines (or if we don't bother, and run wanna-build for unofficial ports)
[12:06] <infinity> The only prereq, really, is the ability to build a dapper chroot with build-essential installed.
[12:06] <infinity> Should be easily bootstrappable from a Debian chroot, building one package at a time, then re-seeding them into the chroot.
[12:07] <infinity> If Canonical gives me paid time to do it, I can bootstrap the port for you, otherwise I'd leave that bit up to you guys.
[12:09] <daq4th> infinity: is there a description for this? required packages and so on?
[12:09] <infinity> debootstrap --variant=buildd would give you the required list, more or less.
[12:10] <infinity> But, it's basically "Essential=yes + build-essential + fakeroot"
[12:11] <daq4th> ok.. i think we might provide this ...
[12:12] <daq4th> tuhl: i think we should start with the new buildd ...
[03:48] <spike> 'morning
[09:20] <GheRivero> hi everyone