[14:01] <llee> very interesting
[14:01] <xf_> hehe
[14:01] <xf_> where are you
[14:01] <llee> yes
[14:01] <sipior> llee: something we can help you with?
[14:01] <llee> with what
[14:02] <waperboy> need help or just hanging out? :)
[14:02] <sipior> llee: this is an ubuntu help channel. ideally, you've come here to ask or answer a question.
[14:02] <llee> hanging out, but thanks
[14:03] <sipior> llee: have a look in #ubuntu-offtopic, in that case.
[14:07] <waperboy> I think X should understand that if an app opens an opengl frame the same as the current monitor (with duial monitors), it should create it only on that screen
[14:07] <waperboy> *same size
[14:07] <sipior> waperboy: submit a patch to the X folks, then.
[14:07] <waperboy> sipior, heck, you're right :)
[14:07] <waperboy> I'm in the opensource world!
[14:08] <waperboy> Now I can't be sure it's X's fault or nvidias - gotta be X's since you can make metamodes sortof deal with it
[14:10] <waperboy> anyway, such a patch would then break expected behaviour, so it would probably not be axcepted
[14:11] <waperboy> *accepted
[14:11] <NicolasX> holaaaaaaaaaa
[14:11] <NicolasX> alghuien habla español?
[14:11] <puppet009> no
[14:11] <DJones> !es | NicolasX
[14:12] <NicolasX> thnx
[14:14] <puppet009> natty  is ubuntu vista
[14:14] <bazhang> puppet009, welcome to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:16] <pw-toxic> hi
[14:17] <pw-toxic> i have just formatted my raid1 of 2*2TB and formatted it with ext4 using mkfs.ext4 .. then i mounted it and mapped a network drive with windows7.... the new network drive has already 100GB used.. whats wrong?
[14:17] <pw-toxic> 1,69TB free of 1,79TB
[14:17] <pw-toxic> i expect it to be 1,79TB free of 1,79TB since it is totally new
[14:17] <jeroendv> where would be the proper place to write a file with a pid to, when its a user program? ie i'm not root, so i can't write it to /var/run/app.pid
[14:18] <jeroendv> is there a userland version of /var/run/ ?
[14:18] <deww> pw-toxic: probably reserved blocks
[14:18] <markskilbeck> Hi, all. How does one go about connecting to wireless via the terminal? Obviously the network manager/applet does it for me, but I'd like to know how to connect through the terminal.
[14:18] <mbeierl> jeroendv: not that I know of, but as an example, emacs keeps stuff like that in a ~/.emacs/ subdir
[14:18] <pw-toxic> deww, how can i disable this or what is this for? 100GB is a lot
[14:18] <DJones> pw-toxic: When you format a disk, about 5% is held back as reserved space
[14:19] <bazhang> !wifi | markskilbeck please have a read
[14:19] <pw-toxic> DJones, what for?!
[14:19] <llutz> jeroendv: ~/.app.pid
[14:19] <markskilbeck> Cheers bazhang
[14:19] <sdk> pw-toxix administrative purpose...
[14:19] <Aikar> what would be a clue on whats wrong if screen switches to the 5 dot ubuntu logo then deadlocks even on a 5 minute old ubuntu install
[14:19] <pw-toxic> so this is normal and i cant do anything against this?
[14:20] <DJones> pw-toxic: Just reading up, from http://boncey.org/2006_11_18_reclaiming_ext3_disk_space "When an ext2/3 filesystem is formated by default 5% is reserved for root. Reserved space is supposed to reduce fragementation and allow root to login in case the filesystem becomes 100% used."
[14:20] <sdk> not really pw-toxic
[14:20] <Aikar> sometimes it deadlocks on picture, sometimes it just plai nreboots, now its switching to 5 dots then deadlocking.
[14:20] <ruan> i can't make an .exe execute, when i sudo chmod +x it does nothing, and if i go in nautilus it unchecks itself, why?
[14:20] <Aikar> this is my 3rd install on a diff hdd this time too and still doing it 5 minutes after installing
[14:20] <jeroendv> llutz: thx, guess thats the best I guess
[14:20] <sdk> you should normally not do something against these 5%, pw-toxic
[14:21] <sdk> that is a safety net...
[14:21] <ruan> i have read and write access to the directory
[14:21] <Groove-> jeroendv: create a subdir in /var/run and make it writeable for your user
[14:21] <ruan> its an ntfs drive if it matters
[14:21] <Aikar> ruan: you gotta set tpermissions on mount options
[14:21] <compdoc> pw-toxic, no hidden files or directories?
[14:21] <Aikar> ruan: cant change perms on ntfs
[14:22] <pw-toxic> another question: do you have an idea how i could find out why i can only write with 18,5 MB/s from a raid1 drive to another raid1 drive?   the one raid1 is 2*500GB Western Digital and the new one im writing to is 2*2TB Hitachi
[14:22] <Aikar> ruan: set fmask=0777,dmask=0777
[14:22] <ruan> Aikar: thanks, but what is the exact command?
[14:22] <popey> pw-toxic: is the RAID1 set brand new? is it still syncing? what does /proc/mdstat say ?
[14:22] <Aikar> ruan: how are you mounting the drive? through Places?
[14:22] <compdoc> pw-toxic, that is pretty bad
[14:22] <pw-toxic> popey, its already snyced
[14:22] <Aikar> ruan: if so, you need to add it to fstab
[14:22] <ruan> its auto mounted when i access it
[14:22] <Aikar> ruan: yeah you need to add it to fstab
[14:22] <ruan> Aikar: ok
[14:22] <Aikar> ruan: lookup how to add drives to fstab
[14:23] <ruan> it's sdc1
[14:23] <sdk> ruan, you are not trying to start a .exe under linux, are you?
[14:23] <ruan> sdk: im doing it under wine
[14:23] <llutz> Aikar: a f/d/u-mask of 777 is pretty useless if you want to use a filesystem..
[14:23] <mbeierl> markskilbeck: you can also read "man wireless" and "man interfaces" for information on 'hard-coding' wifi settings for start on boot...
[14:23] <compdoc> pw-toxic, what does the disk utility benchmark for each array show?
[14:23] <markskilbeck> mbeierl: Noted. Thanks.
[14:23] <Aikar> llutz: why do you say that?
[14:23] <Aikar> works for me
[14:23] <drexl> Ruan: dev/sdc1 /mnt/sdc1     ntfs-3g defaults,umask=0077,uid=1000,gid=winuser 0 0
[14:24] <llutz> Aikar: fmask=0777 means permission are 0000
[14:24] <pw-toxic> compdoc, what is this tool and how can i install it?
[14:24] <mbeierl> markskilbeck: I haven't done that in a long time, so I can't help much there...
[14:24] <ruan> drexl: thanks
[14:24] <Octav> how to register in xchat?
[14:24] <milamber> !register | Octav
[14:24] <markskilbeck> mbeierl: not a problem - thanks anyway :)
[14:24] <bazhang> Octav, same as in other clients, /join #freenode
[14:24] <Aikar> llutz: first bit isnt reversed but next 3 are?
[14:24] <g0rby> is there a way i can stop the screen saver comming on if something is playing on youtube?
[14:24] <compdoc> pw-toxic, it comes with the gonome desktop. try the command:  palimpsest
[14:25] <madurax86> i have an internal mic in my laptop and theres only one audio port in it in windows it asks what i plugged in when i plug something in(mic, headset, headphone) and i need to use a headset in linux how can i do it?
[14:25] <bazhang> g0rby, set screensaver time limit to longer or off
[14:25] <mbeierl> markskilbeck: oh.  this explains it ... that's what I used long ago and it looks like it still works: /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian
[14:25] <pw-toxic> and what should i do there exactly?
[14:25] <shomon> I thin kI have a conflict between firestarter and ufw... is there a way to stop it? it results in ufw being disabled each time I reboot...
[14:25] <markskilbeck> mbeierl: :D thanks!
[14:26] <llutz> Aikar: 1st number = suid/sgid/sticky
[14:26] <compdoc> pw-toxic, benchmarks - tests the speed of the arrays to see which is the slowest
[14:26] <ruan> /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ntfs     ntfs-3g
[14:26] <compdoc> pw-toxic, did you align the partition on the new array?
[14:26] <pw-toxic> compdoc align?
[14:26] <mbeierl> markskilbeck: but in my case, it was a fixed wireless, not a roaming style "detect networks and auto join".  would that work for what you're wanting to do?
[14:26] <erUSUL> shomon: what do you want to use? ufw? then remove firestarter
[14:27] <Aikar> so to my problem. im having issues with ubuntu either (Deadlockfrozepicture|Auto Reboot|SwitchTo5DotsThenDeadLock). I've tried full memtest on memory,, ive tried reinstalling ubuntu, ive tried reinstalling to a different harddrive, ive reseated video card and ensured all cables were connected well. but the problem persists. any ideas?
[14:27] <ruan> i'll be right back then
[14:27] <g0rby> it also happens whilst maximised
[14:28] <shomon> just with apt get remove? erUSUL ?
[14:28] <Aikar> flash usually triggers the problem fast
[14:28] <shomon> I like firestarter's ability to show me what ti blocks... but it tends to take up 90% cpu...
[14:28] <mbeierl> markskilbeck: alternatively I think wicd can do roaming style stuff from the cli: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/  It's a networkmanager replacement
[14:28] <pw-toxic> compdoc "The disk seems to have usage 'filesystem' - write benchmarking requries the disk to be completley empty"   why cant i make read write tests when the partition isnt completley empty?
[14:28] <erUSUL> shomon: that sould work
[14:28] <markskilbeck> mbeierl: fixed network
[14:28] <compdoc> pw-toxic, yeah, most large drives use 4k sectors, and if you dont create the first partition correctly, the speed suffers greatly, or so Im told. the latest gparted creates them correctly now, as long as you accept the defaults
[14:28] <markskilbeck> I'm just trying to learn how to connect to my home wireless
[14:28] <shomon> ok thanks!
[14:28] <compdoc> pw-toxic, just do a read test
[14:29] <pw-toxic> compdoc, i create the partition with mkfs.ext4 manually
[14:29] <compdoc> I use ext4 too
[14:29] <pw-toxic> compdoc, a read test shows 90MB/s for my raid1
[14:29] <compdoc> not bad
[14:29] <pw-toxic> but for a 2TB raid1 drive it should be more like 200 MB/s
[14:29] <mbeierl> markskilbeck: then hard coding it into /etc/network/interfaces should do the trick.
[14:30] <dimmortal> ok its been several hrs... maybe someone has woke that can help with my lappys subwoffer not workin??
[14:30] <dimmortal> apperently this used to work(2.5 years ago) >>> http://iheartlinux.wordpress.com/2008/12/31/dolby-surround-sound/ <<< but now it doesn't work
[14:31] <BluesKaj> dimmortal, open alsamixer and make sure the LFE ctrl is on (00) and turned up
[14:31] <dimmortal> there is not a lfe in alsa mixer
[14:31] <dostokhan> starting bluetooth device on my laptop disables networkmanager. tried restarting networkmanager but didn't work. nm-applet shows "networking disables".
[14:32] <drexl> !bluetooth
[14:32] <ruan> lol, my drive keeps renaming itself. first sdc1, then sda1, then sdb1
[14:32] <ruan> i cant fstab it
[14:32] <BluesKaj> dimmortal, then make sure you have alsa-utils installed
[14:33] <dimmortal> it is
[14:33] <llutz> ruan: use UUIDs
[14:33] <ruan> llutz: ok
[14:34] <ruan> ok how do i get the UUID?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> does alsamixer show your soundcard model , dimmortal ?
[14:34] <llutz> ruan: use UUIDs from sudo blkid
[14:34] <bazhang> ruan, sudo blkid
[14:34] <ruan> llutz: ok thanks
[14:34] <Aikar> ruan: are you changing order in bios?
[14:34] <compdoc> ruan, blkid, I think
[14:34] <ruan> Aikar: they're in the same order, but they rename
[14:34] <markskilbeck> Hm. sudo ifup wlan0 tells me wlan0 is unknown interface
[14:34] <compdoc> sudo, yes
[14:35] <ruan> ok, so fstab works with uuid?
[14:35] <sipior> ruan: in fact, it works better with uuid :-)
[14:35] <ruan> 1A1433381433166B        /mnt/ntfs     ntfs-3g
[14:35] <ruan> so, this will work?
[14:36] <llutz> ruan: yes, use "UUID=<your uuid>  /mount/point ...." instead of "/dev/sdXY /mnt/pnt/..."
[14:36] <sipior> ruan: have a look at "man fstab"
[14:36] <dostokhan> can anyone help me with the bluetooth issue?
[14:36] <compdoc> ubuntu uses uuid by default in fstab now
[14:36] <ruan> UUID=1A1433381433166B        /mnt/ntfs     ntfs-3g
[14:38] <ruan> like that, right?
[14:38] <dimmortal> it shows one of them at the top(intel cantiga hdmi).. the other one alc888(the one I want to use) I don't see
[14:38] <jhonnyboy> Why would apache not point to index.html? I checked the DirectoryIndex setting inside of the http.d file inside of http/conf and it points to index.html but when i go to my server nothing shows up unless i specify index.html ex. abc.com/index.html
[14:38] <compdoc> UUID=43b49db3-ccc0-469a-9266-c82c54a2cbf5   /two2TB         ext4  defaults                  2  2
[14:38] <compdoc> thats one of mine
[14:39] <BluesKaj> !who | dimmortal
[14:40] <BluesKaj> dimmortal, you probly have to make the missing card the default in your BIOS
[14:40] <dimmortal> BluesKaj: it shows one of them at the top(intel cantiga hdmi).. the other one alc888(the one I want to use) I don't see
[14:40] <sicopath> What do I have to do in order to run a program automatically when i login? (from a console)
[14:41] <ruan> thanks, it worked
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> sicopath:  the .bashrc or .profile is the place to set specic variables and so forth.
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> sicopath:  depends on what you are running exactly
[14:41] <jhonnyboy> Dr_Willis, can't sicopath use crontab or at to set up jobs pointing to scripts?
[14:41] <sicopath> I'm running debian on my wii.  I do not have keyboard access.  In order to enable network, you need to login as root (i have this done) and run a script.
[14:41] <dimmortal> BluesKaj: there is no setting in the bios.. the one its detecting is is part of the video card and is connected to the one I want to use for the internal speakers
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> -->   "depends on what you are running exactly"
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> :)
[14:42] <sicopath> once I enable network, i can ssh in
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> sicopath:  that would best be done from /etc/rc.local
[14:42] <gaelfx> is there a way to get hdmi audio working without removing pulse?
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> set up the commands in there to do networking and other tweaks.
[14:42] <popey> gaelfx: hdmi audio works for me
[14:42] <popey> gaelfx: with pulse
[14:43] <gaelfx> popey: did you have to do any tweaking? or does your card have an spdif pass through?
[14:44] <dimmortal> BluesKaj: what I need to figure out is how to enable "lenovo-sky" in the current version of alsa for the alsa-base file seems to contain nothing any more and adding the line that would have fixed it in the past breaks sound all together
[14:44] <gaelfx> mine is not a built-in card either
[14:45] <gaelfx> the only time I can get hdmi audio working is using smplayer and setting the audio output to one of the four hdmi sound devices that shows up in alsa
[14:45] <Magpii> http://paste.linuxassist.net/215583 <--- Can someone help me with this issue?
[14:45] <rob__> ciao
[14:46] <vpark> Dear friends, I'm Using Ubuntu 10.10, installed packages Apache 2 php5 mysql-server php5-mysql thru Synaptic. HTML pages working fine. But PHP scripts are downloaded rather than exexcuting. Checked with ##php, this is not a PHP issue pl help
[14:47] <Yannis14> quit
[14:47] <Yannis14> ^
[14:47] <llutz> vpark: #httpd  for apache-help
[14:47] <gaelfx> vpark: did you use taskel for installing the LAMP stack, or did you try to do it by hand?
[14:48] <Yannis14> i maked a terminal for nuls
[14:48] <Yannis14> bash
[14:49] <vpark> gaelfx: not using lampp; installed all packages thru Synaptic
[14:49] <drexl> vpark: DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.php
[14:49] <drexl> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[14:49] <gaelfx> !lamp | vpark
[14:51] <wizash> how can I reduce screen brightness ubuntu 10.10 on a Vaio VGN-CS27GJ
[14:51] <ruan> wizash: go to monitor settings or use buttons on your monitor if you have any
[14:51] <vpark> gaelfx: which is the conf file and what is the exact point where I should add AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[14:52] <ruan> wizash: monitor settings(depending on vendor) are at system > preferences > monitors
[14:52] <sicopath> Dr_Willis, thanks.  The script runs.  Now it requires input.  Could you guide me again?
[14:52] <gaelfx> vpark: I've no idea, when I installed lamp using the guide there, it just worked
[14:52] <sicopath> (keep in mind, no keyboard until this script is finished)  Now I need to simulate a press of "enter"
[14:53] <sicopath> is this possible?
[14:53] <drexl> vpark: it's different depending on how you installed it
[14:53] <wizash> ruan , that doesnt work
[14:53] <ruan> wizash: does it give an error?
[14:53] <wizash> yes
[14:53] <wizash> graphics driver
[14:53] <bmccomb> My work is needing me to set up a PXE boot server, and I'm rather new to linux. My boss has just left work, so we are a bit crazy right now and I'm the only person able to fill in for him until we get someone else. (I'm just an intern really.) I'm trying to follow this guide - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer - but when I try to restart the daemon I get this response - http://paste.linuxassist.net/215584 - Any help? :)
[14:53] <Fjodor> sicopath: mark a full empty line with the mouse and paste it back...
[14:53] <ruan> wizash: is your graphics driver the latest version?
[14:54] <wizash> ruan , It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?
[14:54] <ruan> wizash: press yes
[14:54] <ikonia> bmccomb: we can't see thjat pastebin, it has a password
[14:54] <bmccomb> username pass linux
[14:54] <wizash> that takes me to nvidia control panel
[14:54] <bmccomb> sorry about that
[14:54] <sicopath> Fjodor, it's a wii.  I have no input until I finish the script and can ssh in (the script enables the wifi)
[14:54] <Fjodor> sicopath: Ah, ok. No idea then, sorry
[14:55] <ruan> wizash: go to color correction
[14:55] <sicopath> i'm thinking maybe I can sudo apt-get install the driver for the wiimote
[14:55] <ruan> wizash: brightness settings are there
[14:55] <ikonia> bmccomb: use a pastebin that doesn't need a password
[14:55] <g_0_0> vpark, you did install libapache2-mod-php5?
[14:55] <llutz> sicopath: why does the script need input? call it from /etc/rc.local to run it at boot-time
[14:55] <bmccomb> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/K8YQK4x6
[14:55] <ikonia> !pastebin | mbeierl
[14:55] <ikonia> oops
[14:55] <ikonia> !pastebin | bmccomb
[14:55] <wizash> ruan, where is color correction?
[14:55] <sicopath> i did call it from /etc/rc.local
[14:55] <wizash> ruan, found it
[14:55] <ruan> wizash: is it X server nvidia?
[14:55] <ruan> wizash: ah ok
[14:56] <llutz> sicopath:again: why does the script need input?
[14:56] <vpark> g_0_0:vishal@vishal-Inspiron-1525:~$ sudo a2enmod php5
[14:56] <vpark> [sudo] password for vishal:
[14:56] <vpark> Module php5 already enabled
[14:56] <vpark> vishal@vishal-Inspiron-1525:~$
[14:56] <sicopath> script is wanting me to say yes, then it will want me to input wifi info
[14:56] <FloodBot2> vpark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:56] <wizash> ruan, I was able to run the Fn key with the F5 anf F6 buttons to change the settings
[14:56] <ruan> wizash: ok
[14:56] <wizash> ruan, how do I enable those?
[14:56] <bmccomb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/572202/ Sorry about that, is this better?
[14:57] <wizash> its been disabled somehow
[14:57] <thewrongboy> hi I would like to ask a question regarding RAID and XFS
[14:57] <thewrongboy> I just set up an ubuntu box with software RAID 10
[14:57] <llutz> sicopath: change the script and add that info statically
[14:57] <ruan> wizash: i don't know
[14:57] <thewrongboy> 4 hard drives, using XFS
[14:57] <ikonia> bmccomb: use the "service" command as it suggests instead of calling the init script directly
[14:57] <thewrongboy> the installer automatically selected sunit = 16 and swidth = 64
[14:58] <thewrongboy> as the XFS options
[14:58] <wizash> ruan, this isnt reducing the output of the screen, just changing the levels, I am actually worried about the excessive heat from the screen. Doesnt become so hot in windows
[14:58] <hhhzzzarn> Installing x2go: gpg: keyserver timed out gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[14:58] <thewrongboy> however from the XFS FAQ, it seems that sw should be the number of data disks
[14:58] <hhhzzzarn> Installing x2go: gpg: keyserver timed out gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[14:58] <hhhzzzarn> sry
[14:58] <thewrongboy> in the case a 4 drive RAID setup, shouldn't the swidth be 32?
[14:58] <hhhzzzarn> http://www.x2go.org/fileadmin/doc/installation_x2go_ubuntu_en.html#4.Installing%20X2goserver-Home%20%28Ubuntu%20Edition%29|outline
[14:59] <hhhzzzarn> Can anyone provide help with x2go?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> dimmortal, seems to me you may need a dedicated driver for that card , alsa obviously isn't detecting integrating it
[14:59] <ikonia> hhhzzzarn: that document is for ubuntu 9.10
[15:00] <hhhzzzarn> I undrestand.
[15:00] <hhhzzzarn> I could not find for 10.04
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> whats x2go anyway?
[15:00] <ikonia> hhhzzzarn: no
[15:00] <ikonia> it won't work on 10.04
[15:00] <hhhzzzarn> ok. i will reinstall os to 9.10
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> just for a single app.. thats extreme
[15:01] <sicopath> llutz, I don't know how to do this :(
[15:01] <gaelfx> where are the config files for pulse?
[15:01] <llutz> sicopath: can you pastebin the script?
[15:01] <g_0_0> vpark, you restarted apache after?
[15:02] <thewrongboy> anyone...?
[15:02] <vpark> g_0_0: ya
[15:02] <hje841> Hi. My pc running Ubuntu 9.10 stops just after entering the login screen. can anybody help me?
[15:02] <argentico75> Hola
[15:02] <argentico75> hello
[15:02] <drexl> vpark: did you load the module?  LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so
[15:03] <g_0_0> vpark, it sounds like apache isn't configured with the appropriate handler
[15:03] <vpark> drexl: how to? sorry newbie!
[15:03] <pw-toxic> how can i find out why a device is busy?
[15:03] <drexl> vpark: add LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so to your config
[15:04] <drexl> and restart apache
[15:04] <dhoine1> How can i reconnect by script or something like that my pppoe connections after awakening from hibernate?
[15:04] <sicopath> Perhaps the question I should be asking, is what files are this script editing to enter in my wifi information (ssid/encryption/passphrase).  Is there a general location for files with this info?
[15:04] <bmccomb> Sorry about the slow response time, doing a bit too much at once. The servcice tftpd-hpa restart command didn't work either,  here is the error as well as the contents of the tftpd-hpa file that I configured originally. http://paste.ubuntu.com/572203/
[15:04] <argentico75> help please: my lan card didn t appear in ifconfig. only lo. everything was fine  but suddenly dissappear
[15:04] <g_0_0> vpark, did you receive errors from a2enmod php?
[15:04] <sicopath> having no keyboard access is no fun (i can edit the filesystem; it's on a SD card)
[15:04] <vpark> drexl: which conf file I should paste this to?
[15:04] <llutz> sicopath: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and /etc/network/interfaces most likely
[15:05] <sicopath> llutz, ty
[15:05] <hje841> anybody?
[15:05] <argentico75> I ve changed the lan card for another one, but its the same
[15:05] <drexl> vpark: if you did a binary install I think it's apache2.conf
[15:05] <g0rby> on a fresh install of studio i cant get any other sound device  apart from my optical out working - in sound preferances none of the speaker tests work although sound is indeed  working through the optical jack, any ideas on getting analog output working?
[15:05] <drexl> vpark: if you compiled it it's httpd.conf
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> sicopath:  theres some in /etc/ or if you knew the proper commands you could run them from /etc/rc.local
[15:06] <dhoine1> anyone?
[15:06] <sicopath> Dr_Willis, how can I view the /root folder of this filesystem on the SD card.
[15:06] <ikonia> dhoine1: anyone what ?
[15:06] <sicopath> it's just root/whiite for l/p
[15:07] <dhoine1> with reconnect my pppoe after hibernate
[15:07] <llutz> sicopath: you should try to get more specific help in #gc-linux on oftc
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> sicopath:  look on the card.. see whats what..  if you mean the 'root' users home  that would be under 'root'     the / is also called the root of the filesystem.
[15:07] <waperboy> Is the ubunts version of X special, or could I use build sources from x.org?
[15:07] <ikonia> waperboy: why do you want to build from source ?
[15:07] <sicopath> i'm in #gc-linux :) they're quiet
[15:07] <ikonia> waperboy: it's a very complex process with strict dependencies,
[15:07] <sicopath> i mean /root folder
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> waperboy:   theres updated 'X' ppa's out there.
[15:07] <sicopath> that's where script is, i was going to look at it
[15:07] <gaelfx> my graphics card has hdmi with a built-in device for audio over hdmi, and I know that alsa sees 4 different devices, though I'm pretty sure only one of them actually works (or at least so it seems). I can get audio to come out of hdmi, but if it's going through pulse it sounds like crap, whereas in smplayer, I can tell it which alsa device to use and get decent sound. how can I teach pulse to use the right device?
[15:07] <llutz> sicopath: it is offtopic here, this is neither debian nor wii support :)
[15:07] <sicopath> might tell me what files it's editing
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> sicopath:  '/root' would be the root users home directory.. the path is.. /root/
[15:08] <sicopath> true :0 very true! my bad
[15:08] <drexl> vpark: I recommend compiling it all from source, the binary install scatters stuff all over the place.
[15:08] <sicopath> I'm on ubuntu asking help, but I see that I am totally off!
[15:08] <waperboy> thinking about looking into the sources to make implement something :)
[15:08] <hhhzzzarn> Help Installing x2go: gpg: keyserver timed out gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[15:08] <ikonia> hhhzzzarn: you've been told it won't work on 10.04
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> hhhzzzarn:  if the keyserver is down.. we cant do anythiung about that.
[15:08] <ikonia> hhhzzzarn: the document you are using is for 9.04
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> hhhzzzarn:  install it without using the gpg keyss perhaps.
[15:09]  * Dr_Willis still dosent know what x2go is.
[15:09] <hhhzzzarn> ikonia, your help is useless.
[15:09] <waperboy> Dr_Willis (or is that Druce Willis ;) - nice, I'll check it out
[15:09] <hhhzzzarn> because i have told you. there is no other guide to 10.04
[15:09] <hhhzzzarn> others have said it does work.
[15:09] <ikonia> hhhzzzarn: then ask the others how to do it, the ones who said it does work
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> hhhzzzarn:  you have checked the forums? it could be the keyserver is just temparly down.
[15:09] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, have you tried using alsa directly without pulseaudio ?
[15:09] <ikonia> hhhzzzarn: we don't control the 3rd party repos, if they are down, we can't make them be up
[15:10] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: nope, but does that involve removing pulse?
[15:10] <dimmortal> 2.6.35(and later) kernel, no snd-hda-intel line (tinny sound)... 2.6.35(and later) kernel, with snd_hda_intel model=lenovo-sky (no sound)...  2.6.32and prior) kernel, with snd_hda_intel model=lenovo-sky (working sound) ... I am not the only one having this problem... the bug is marked "Triaged" with no solution  bug#662009
[15:10] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, yes
[15:10] <bmccomb> Sorry about the slow response time, doing a bit too much at once. The servcice tftpd-hpa restart command didn't work either, here is the error as well as the contents of the tftpd-hpa file that I configured originally. http://paste.ubuntu.com/572203/
[15:11] <dhoine1> Hi guys. i'm using tuxonice and need reconnect my pppoe connect after hibernate by default. How can i do it without network-manager?
[15:11] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: I would really rather not. I know I can get the sound to come out, I think the problem is that alsa is reporting 4 devices on my graphics card where only one really works, so pulse doesn't know which one to use
[15:11] <ikonia> bmccomb: can you do a "service" stop instead of restart, does that work ?
[15:11] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: hence my asking about how to teach pulse to do it right
[15:12] <bmccomb> Nope.
[15:12] <hje841> Help wanted: anybody have a clue as to why my pc is stopping just during load of the GNOME from a liveCD of 10.10?
[15:12] <ubuntu_> heloo
[15:12] <ikonia> bmccomb: similar error
[15:12] <ubuntu_> hff
[15:12] <gaelfx> or I guess alsa might also be the culprit in some sense
[15:12] <ikonia> bmccomb: sorry, that was a question
[15:12] <ubuntu_> try download again
[15:12] <bmccomb> Yes, it is.
[15:12] <bmccomb> stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.59" (uid=1000 pid=2125 comm="stop) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Stop" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))
[15:12] <ikonia> bmccomb: how very annoying, it looks like the package you want to use has a bug in it's upstart script
[15:13] <drexl> hje841: the option silent splash i think is the culprit
[15:13] <bmccomb> Woo.
[15:13] <ikonia> bmccomb: ahhh
[15:13] <ubuntu_> takpa
[15:13] <ikonia> bmccomb: wait, I'm being dumb
[15:13] <Roasted_> Question - instead of explaining to my co worker how to properly split root and home partitions, I figured it might be easier to make a video about it. Question is, can I use GTK-RecordMyDesktop from a LiveCD? I'd have to install it and save the video to an external source, but I'm just curious if it's possible.
[15:13] <ikonia> bmccomb: sudo service restart, don't forget sudo
[15:13] <hje841> drexl: sorry?
[15:13] <ubuntu_> maybela
[15:13] <bmccomb> ! of course. Haha.
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> hje841:  what is your video card/chipset?
[15:13] <drexl> hje841: I have the same problem I can only install it
[15:13] <ikonia> bmccomb: sorry, missed the obvious there, only noticed when it complained about the user id
[15:14] <sicopath> Dr_Willis, so let's say I add a 'apt-get install X'.  How in the script can I make it press "Y" to continue?
[15:14] <bmccomb> That did it. I should have noticed that as well really.
[15:14] <bmccomb> Thanks. :)
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Roasted_:  you could. be sure to tell the recordmydesktop to save its temp files and final files somewhere other then the ram of the system :)
[15:14] <dhoine1> how i can reconnect my pppoe?
[15:14] <hje841> Dr_Willis: some onboard thingy on an shuttle pc
[15:14] <sicopath> Dr_Willis, I added that to /etc/rc.local
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> sicopath:  apt-get has a -y option i belive. or some similer 'yes' option
[15:14] <llutz> sicopath: yes| apt-get blah
[15:14] <sicopath> oh
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> sicopath:  that would be very weird running apt-get from rc.local
[15:14] <sicopath> llutz,  Dr_Willis  thanks
[15:14] <sicopath> Dr_Willis, i'm in a weird spot :)
[15:14] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, well to each his own , but to me pulseaudio is just an another layer of unecessary audio processing which is why your audio sounds crappy , without it my audio is pretty good , considering it's just an onboard chip.
[15:15] <drexl> hje841: I'm not sure how to boot it without the silent splash option
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> drexl:  edit the boot line (hit e) when you see the grub menu. and edit out the options - is one way
[15:15] <dhoine1> anyone can help me with pppoe reconnect?
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> drexl:  or edit /etc/default/grub to make it the default
[15:16] <kvarley> I'm trying to run a 32 bit application on my 64 bit ubuntu installation - I have already copiued over some 32bit libs to /usr/lib32/ in order for the application to run, however it's still giving errors. Any ideas as to how I can fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/572208/
[15:16] <Roasted_> If I were to roll out Ubuntu in a network environment with a Windows server, is there a way to make Ubuntu "read" LDAP so users can log in with domain accounts?
[15:16] <drexl> Dr_Willis: ya I did that, someone else here can't get the cd rom to boot
[15:16] <dhoine1> oh c'one guys
[15:16] <ikonia> Roasted_: sure, but it is a read only connection, not read/write for password updates
[15:17] <HerrBert> sdf
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> drexl:  for my nvidia systems - i MUST use the 'nomodeset' option for them to boot properly.
[15:17] <ikonia> Roasted_: you need an ldap proxy or a service such as redhats directory service to do updates
[15:17] <Roasted_> ikonia, I'm not sure I understand what you just said there...
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> drexl:  hit space when you see the man icon at the bottom (first thing in boot() and then hit F6 for the options)
[15:17] <Roasted_> ikonia, what updates?
[15:17] <ikonia> Roasted_: to users passwords for example
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> updates like users changeing their password.?
[15:17] <atsaloli2> Hi.  I'm trying to get my wireless connection up, on Ubuntu 10.04.  I do see a wlan0 device, but it does not say CLAIMED or UNCLAIMED or ENABLED or DISABLED, which is what https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html said to check.
[15:17] <Roasted_> ikonia, I'm not following what you're referring to in regard to user password updates. What gets updated? What needs updated?
[15:18] <jonalv> guys help, I thikn I am crazy. 'sudo apt-get install biblatex' says: 'biblatex is already the newest version.' but when I write biblatex I get: 'biblatex: command not found'. What am I doing wrong?
[15:18] <atsaloli2> how do I troubleshoot my wireless connection?
[15:18] <ikonia> Roasted_: when a user changes their password it is updated in the ldap schema, if you are using AD only windows machines can update it, the Linux ones can auth against it, but not update it
[15:18] <g_0_0> !wifi | atsaloli2
[15:18] <Roasted_> ikonia, are you talking in reference to when passwords expire?
[15:18] <hje841> Dr_Willis: my shuttle pc stalls when reaching the login screen on normal boot from 9.10. and during loading of GNOME when on
[15:18] <hje841> a 10.10 liveCD
[15:18] <van7hu> ,hi
[15:18] <van7hu> !hi
[15:19] <ikonia> Roasted_: no, just any reason for a user to change their password, eg: they just want to
[15:19] <llutz> jonalv: dpkg -L biblatex|grep "/usr/bin/"
[15:19] <geekbri> anybody have a clue how to add multiple DB's or DB users to phpmyadmin? this ubuntu config for it is baffling.
[15:19] <Roasted_> ikonia, oh, we're in a school district here. We don't allow users to just change passwords, however we force automatic password changes every 90 days.
[15:19] <Roasted_> ikonia, excluding students.
[15:19] <Roasted_> ikonia, all teachers/staff get the auto change.
[15:19] <ikonia> Roasted_: ok, so they would have to change that from a windows machine, or you'd have to have a linux ldap-> windows AD proxy
[15:20] <atsaloli2> when I click on the little double arrows icon on my task bar and the networks menu pops up, under Wireless Networks it says "disconnected".  How do I connect?
[15:20] <jonalv> llutz: wow thanks, was that missing in the install script or soemthing?
[15:20] <Roasted_> ikonia, so it COULD work - they just wouldnt auto-change the passwords when prompted through ubuntu.
[15:20] <jhoc2x2> anyone updated to the new *.*.35-25 kernel ??
[15:20] <Roasted_> ikonia, however, we're talking ubuntu for students, so they would never see password changes on the ubuntu systems.
[15:20] <llutz> jonalv: whats the output of that command? it actually changes nothing
[15:20] <ikonia> Roasted_: sounds fine
[15:20] <Pici> !anyone | jhoc2x2
[15:21] <sxndave> jhoc2x2 yeh
[15:21] <Roasted_> ikonia, my main concern is in windows, we auto-redirect their my documents to be the \\server\student\john_smith. I'm wondering if there's a way to re-direct their home folder, or at least a folder on the desktop to do the same thing.
[15:21] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, my audio pcm pass thru from alsa works well into the DAC on my HT receiver , so most of the audio processing is done in the receiver not the soundcard . Any audio processing in the pc is done thru alsa in the digital domain, therefore it remains relatively clean right thru the card without pulseaudio in the mix.
[15:21] <jhoc2x2> 2.6.35-25 <<< this one >>????
[15:21] <llutz> jonalv: from what i read, that is only a library, nothing you can run directly
[15:22] <jonalv> llutz: ah yea you are right, (I might be goign crazy), no output
[15:22] <atsaloli2> my wireless interface driver is driver=b43-pci-bridge
[15:22] <jonalv> llutz: but where is the executable with that name hiding then?
[15:22] <Pici> jhoc2x2: You need to ask a question about it.
[15:22] <sxndave> jhoc2x2, yes, got it through update tool
[15:22] <atsaloli2> how do I connect to a wireless network?
[15:23] <Roasted_> ikonia, do you by chance know if thats a possibility?
[15:23] <llutz> jonalv: it has no binary, i don't know how to use it, i guess you have to include it into your tex-projects
[15:23] <AbhijiT> !wifi | atsaloli2
[15:23] <ikonia> Roasted_: yes, that should be do-able, the AD-ldap schema is quite configurable
[15:24] <llutz> jonalv: check http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/jenny/jcwdocs/latex/bibtexbasics.html
[15:24] <jonalv> llutz: there shuold be a standalone binary which you run. At least that's how it works on my mac. And bibtex is not the same as biblatex
[15:24] <llutz> jonalv: oh sry
[15:24] <drexl> atsaloli2: NetworkManager nm-connection-editor nm-applet
[15:25] <jonalv> llutz: oh that's no problem, perhaps you are good with apt though and can help me find the executable?
[15:25] <atsaloli2> drexl: how do I get into NetworkManager, please?
[15:25] <drexl> atsaloli2: it's a daemon i think
[15:25] <llutz> jonalv: only thing with related is: biblatex-dw - Biblatex styles for humanities
[15:25] <atsaloli2> ok
[15:26] <llutz> jonalv: lacks a binary too.
[15:26] <drexl> atsaloli2: type nm-connection-editor into your terminal and see if anything pops up
[15:26] <g_0_0> atsaloli2, can you pastebin the result of --->  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[15:26] <jonalv> llutz: hm, I guess I should try some biblatex page on the intertubes then...
[15:26] <High_Priest> atsaloli2, it should be running already, somewhere top right there should be a wifi icon
[15:27] <hje841> Disabling the quiet splash boot on the live CD I see that it stops right after "saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned"
[15:27] <hje841> anysuggestions?
[15:27] <atsaloli2> g_0_0: "iwlist wlan0 scan" returns: wlan0     No scan results
[15:27] <llutz> jonalv: http://www.charlietanksley.net/pdf/latex-footnote-citations.pdf   just an addon to be referenced in your latex-files
[15:28] <g_0_0> atsaloli2, it doesn't sound like your wireless is working yet, you'll need to get it working before you can connect, follow the info already given to for wireless troubleshooting
[15:28] <g_0_0> !wifi | atsaloli2
[15:28] <atsaloli2> drexl: nm-connection-editor window popped up, thanks.  how do i get the list of available networks?  (it doesn't show any)   (I guess it won't if "iwlist wlan0 scan" does not return any, hey?)
[15:30] <drexl> atsaloli2: you can create one but if your nm-applet is working and wlan0 is up and running it usually creates a profile for you named auto
[15:30] <atsaloli2> g_0_0: I can see my wifi interface in "lshw -C network"
[15:30] <g_0_0> atsaloli2, yeah but you haven't got the driver installed correctly yet
[15:30] <atsaloli2> g_0_0: and the driver is loaded
[15:30] <atsaloli2> g_0_0: that's as far as the documentation goes
[15:30] <drexl> atsaloli2: what does sudo ifconfig wlan0 up do?
[15:30] <atsaloli2> g_0_0: where is the documentation for how to do that?
[15:31] <g_0_0> !wifi | atsaloli2
[15:31] <goldins> Hi I was watching a video on youtube and all of a sudden the sound stopped
[15:31] <g_0_0> !wifi > atsaloli2
[15:31] <goldins> Now sound isn't working at all
[15:32] <jonalv> llutz: I am sorry, I didn't wuite follow, are you still thinking there is no executable?
[15:32] <atsaloli2> drexl: ifconfig wlan0 shows it is UP
[15:32] <dve> *
[15:32] <drexl> then add the applet to your panel and then you should see some available networks if any
[15:33] <llutz> jonalv: yes, without deeper research. for me that is just a library you can use in your latex-files
[15:33] <atsaloli2> drexl: I don't see any available networks.  :(   I know there are networks available.
[15:34] <g_0_0> atsaloli2, pastebin the result of ifconfig wlan0
[15:34] <habermann24> hmm... how would i go about this.. i want rails only to update the "password" attribute, if it is not empty...
[15:34] <drexl> atsaloli2: iwlist scanning should reveal some networks
[15:34] <habermann24> otherwise just ignore it
[15:34] <jonalv> llutz: I am sorry you do not trust me. I have used the program on my Mac, it is both a latex package and a standalone program. It's a bibliography generator. The standalone program generates files with the bibliographeis which the package then includes in the document. At least that is how it works on my other computer... :)
[15:35] <atsaloli2> wlan0     No scan results
[15:35] <lolcatz> hmm hi there... I am a bit perplexed that on meerkat amd64, my cpu scaling is not supported (cpu freq) doesn't work, which I most certianly need to on this buid.so I thought I'd compile a new ubuntu kernel branch for myself but it seems cpufreq is available by default sigh. ideaS? known issu(s) or? B. I was wondering how large the 2.6.35-ubuntu kernel compilation dirs take up? roughyl.. could an6yone hint to me, as I wish to try and se
[15:35] <lolcatz> e if I can keep it under 1.5 GB and compile it in my ram :)
[15:35] <llutz> jonalv: mac == os x? this is linux
[15:35] <drexl> atsaloli2: that means it'
[15:35] <lolcatz> erm I think some lines got eaten up :/
[15:35] <drexl> sorry working but there are no networks in range
[15:35] <jonalv> llutz: yea I run it on os x, but it hsould work the same on Ubuntu linux
[15:36] <sicopath> Dr_Willis, last question, I promise.  Could I just use vmware server on Ubuntu(x64).  Use this to emulate ppc and run the SD card?
[15:36] <sipior> jonalv: which version of ubuntu are you running? i have biblatex on my 9.10 box.
[15:36] <llutz> jonalv: there might be a package doing what you want, but none of those two in the apt-repos will do
[15:36] <Roasted_> Is there a way to make Ubuntu laptops connect to wireless in the area before the user even logs in?
[15:36] <lolcatz> roasted, well you can set up a ddaeom onr cronjob to do so but you would need to have either a password,known network or similar
[15:36] <jonalv> sipior: You know, I don't actually know. how do I find out?
[15:37] <lolcatz> Roasted_,
[15:37] <sipior> jonalv: "lb_release -a"
[15:37] <sipior> jonalv: "lsb_release -a"
[15:37] <jonalv> llutz: yea, thanks for your help anyway
[15:37] <lolcatz> daemon or cronjob
[15:37] <jonalv> sipior: 10.04.2 LTS
[15:38] <sipior> jonalv: and i assume "apt-cache search biblatex" turned up nothing?
[15:38] <atsaloli2> drexl: I know for sure there are networks in range
[15:38] <atsaloli2> g_0_0: http://pastebin.com/58CFQHAy
[15:38] <lolcatz> so is there some reason why cpufreq wouldn't be 'enabled' or working under meerkat 64, ona desktop with recognised components?
[15:38] <atsaloli2> that's ifconfig wlan0 output
[15:38] <Roasted_> lolcatz, well like with Windows, it connects to the wireless network even before the user logs in. That way when a domain user logs in, it can authenticate. With Linux, though, it doesn't connect until a local user is already logged in, which begs the obvious question - how in the flippin world am I supposed to use a wireless Linux system with LDAP?
[15:38] <jrib> what can I do to reduce lag time between me typing and seeing what I typed over ssh on a really slow network connection?
[15:38] <jonalv> sipior: only two packages which don't do the trick, one seems to contain the latex package but no executable
[15:39] <sipior> jonalv: what are their names?
[15:39] <drexl> atsaloli2: what does iwconfig output?
[15:39] <jonalv> sipior: biblatex and biblatex-dw
[15:39] <hje841> drexl Dr_Willis: I solved the problem. A pci soundcard was fried somehow. after I removed that it booted fine :)
[15:39] <ruum> guy i am using ubuntu 10.10
[15:40] <lolcatz> well Roasted_ , im no network wiz unfortunately but I would imagine you would want to write a deamon servrver for your laptop which when initialised before login attempts to connect to your netowrks... eg, you can also add a user to a certian group say wifi which does not requitre to be logge din to executer some shell commands
[15:40] <ruum> problem is that when I try to use "updatedb" it no longer recognizes that command
[15:40] <atsaloli2> here's my lshw -C network output: http://pastebin.com/U40znnTXhttp://pastebin.com/U40znnTX
[15:40] <drexl> hje841: curious mabey that's my problem, my computers full of old junk
[15:40] <atsaloli2> http://pastebin.com/U40znnTX
[15:41] <lolcatz> but I am wary of trying to give soem examples, as I can not vouch for thesecurity safety of my porposal.. a network admin or so would be a better reply but it is perfectly possible Roasted_ , and that is at least your first step right? :)
[15:41] <atsaloli2> root@myhp:~# iwconfig wlan0
[15:41] <atsaloli2> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:off/any
[15:41] <atsaloli2>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[15:41] <atsaloli2>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[15:41] <atsaloli2>           Encryption key:off
[15:41] <FloodBot2> atsaloli2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:41] <atsaloli2>           Power Management:off
[15:41] <atsaloli2>
[15:41] <atsaloli2> root@myhp:~#
[15:41] <hje841> drexl: the terminal printout at boot helped. it stopped at a sound related line. :)
[15:42] <atsaloli2> sorry!
[15:42] <atsaloli2> meant to paste that into pastebin.com
[15:42] <armellagrace> hi everyone
[15:42] <jonalv> sipior: You said you where uisng biblatex? Then you can confirm there should be an executable too?
[15:42] <atsaloli2> sorry, didn't get much sleep last night
[15:42] <atsaloli2> that all looks good, right?
[15:42] <armellagrace> anyone can help me??
[15:42] <drexl> hje841: I'll need to try that and see what's up with mine
[15:42] <sipior> jonalv: no, that's not how i use biblatex. are you sure you're not invoking a script when using it in os x?
[15:42] <jrib> armellagrace: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[15:42] <lolcatz> Roasted_, a quick overview http://luv.asn.au/overheads/linux-startup.html
[15:43] <Roasted_> appreciate it lolcatz
[15:43] <sipior> jonalv: on your mac, try "less $(which biblatex)"
[15:43] <atsaloli2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs gives me a 500 Internal Server Error :(
[15:43] <hje841> drexl: good luck :)
[15:43] <lolcatz> ye sorry like the other one Roasted_ , im tired as hell and can't think. I've been working on seeing why my cpu throttling won't work and bla
[15:43] <jonalv> sipior: actually first time I used it I was doing it manually calling it on each generated auc file manually, (it was a pain) then I found latexmk which now calls it for me
[15:44] <Snakkah> Strange errors on my Ubuntu install: wallpaper keeps changing back to default (the purple one), Firefox addons have stopped working completely and I can't get them working, and some important files in my Documents folder have been changed into folders.
[15:44] <sipior> jonalv: that wasn't what i asked...
[15:44] <Snakkah> What's going on? o_O
[15:44] <atsaloli2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs gives me a 500 Internal Server Error :(
[15:44] <armellagrace> i have a problem with twirssi ,enyone can help me?? :(
[15:45] <lolcatz> Snakkah,  LOL that doesn't sound good at all... been hit by a malicious code? ;)\
[15:45] <metallico> atsaloli2, the website works ok for me..
[15:45] <madurax86> i want to switch input device with alsa can anyone help?
[15:45] <atsaloli2> thank you
[15:45] <jonalv> sipior: uhm or have I missed soemthing? Was I in fact running bibtex on them?
[15:45]  * jonalv feels confused now
[15:45] <Snakkah> lolcatz, how can that happen?
[15:45] <Snakkah> lol
[15:46] <drexl> Snakkah: that only happens when you browse for porn ;)
[15:46] <lolcatz> too much pr0n perhaps Snakkah  ;p
[15:46] <lolcatz> LOL drexl , nmy thoughts precisely ;)
[15:46] <sipior> jonalv: for comparison, my os x box doesn't have a biblatex command either, and i'm running TeXLive 2009.
[15:46] <lolcatz> Roasted_, , my point being you can initiliase some shell scripts which can do the network hunt for you before login, this is for sure..
[15:47] <lolcatz> how to port it with LDAP and stuff I have no idea about, sorry
[15:47] <Snakkah> drexl & lolcatz: It started happening this morning. I'm confused though because I haven't been looking for much porn, if that's really what would have caused thid.
[15:47] <Snakkah> *this
[15:47] <sipior> jonalv: sorry, TeXLive 2010, in fact.
[15:47] <lolcatz> hahha 'for much' is relative eh ;)
[15:47] <jonalv> sipior: yea I just realised that too, jonalv takes a step back. He was wrong. But then, why does his bibliography turn up on his mac and not on his Ubuntu machine?
[15:47] <Snakkah> LOL
[15:47] <lolcatz> but ya it doesn thave to be that hehe.. but hmm it does sound like a malicious script. not random garble.. given files turn into folders etc
[15:48] <lolcatz> thats just *weird*
[15:48] <Snakkah> lolcatz, malicious script on Ubuntu? Never?
[15:48] <lolcatz> run clamav?
[15:48] <drexl> Snakkah: I would create a new user and copy your important docs over to the new user account after a reboot
[15:48] <Snakkah> drexl, I may just reinstall.
[15:49] <lolcatz> snakkah, it is a but of a myth it cant happenon linux.. it is just due to transparency, we have avoided a lot 0of crap from the woes of the windoze world... the maliciousness is due to a lobbying corporation you know.. however, one can alwasy set out to make malicious code on linux too u know
[15:49] <drexl> Snakkah: it's just messed up configs under your account, creating a new user will give you a fresh start
[15:49] <metallico> guys, i cant remember, what was the package i needed to install to get the burn effect when i close a window?
[15:50] <lolcatz> compiz-simple or no .. the erm cc
[15:50] <alisalaah> - Is there a flag to execute a program so that I don't need to keep the terminal window open to run that program?  I installed Juniper Network Connect which needed a small hack to get to work, but now I launch via terminal and it pops up the application but if i close or ctrl+c the terminal the app dies.
[15:50] <lolcatz> its a compiz plugin metallico which
[15:50] <alisalaah> Been awhile but can i launch it in the background then close the window or?
[15:50] <Snakkah> drexl, any idea how they may have gotten messed up?
[15:50] <lolcatz> gives u options 8 can use the ismple manager
[15:50] <ruum> well that was fun
[15:50] <ruum> anyway
[15:50] <lolcatz> or ccsomethign something ;p
[15:50] <metallico> ok, cheers
[15:50] <atsaloli2> I ran "iwconfig wlan0 channel 11
[15:50] <atsaloli2> and now "iwlist scan" returns stuff
[15:50] <ruum> so.... how do you get updatedb to work again
[15:50] <jrib> lolcatz: a while back when people were posting huge lists of repositories in the forums, one guy (can't remember who), decided to make his package change he background to warn people :)
[15:50] <atsaloli2> yay!!!
[15:50] <ruum> it cant find the correct file to update
[15:50] <ruum> :-(
[15:50]  * atsaloli2 dances
[15:50] <amit> which is better for use 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?
[15:51] <lolcatz> i just been 2 months on windows bulding client computers so ama bit rusty on linux
[15:51]  * atsaloli2 waves
[15:51] <lolcatz> ye jrib , that is being my point
[15:51] <ruum> anyone?
[15:51] <jrib> amit: 64bit if you have a 64bit processor most of the time
[15:51] <ruum> can anyone help me?
[15:51] <jrib> !helpme | ruum
[15:52] <drexl> Snakkah: you may have write permissions offf on configuration files which the system needs to write to in order to update settings, I don't know
[15:52] <amit> jrib: thanx now m going to install 64bit
[15:52] <jrib> amit: ok
[15:52] <ruum> how do I get update.db to work again?
[15:52] <lolcatz> on the contrary, linux is more thn anything, an example of how good people can actually be, in comparison to the cyncial world of corporate f***S.. but yet due to how our world is so retarded, we get a lot of youngsters growing up, and being 'lolcats' , but linux lil by little will take over we hope before this corporate policy systems with the added paranoia in some western countries with power takes too much control over citizens :)
[15:52] <ruum> !repeat
[15:52] <RyanP> Does anyone have any experience using kickstart and/or preseeding? I'm trying to create an LVM setup, but it seems like my rules are getting ignored.
[15:52] <jrib> ruum: how did you stop it from working?  What happens when you try to use it now?  How are you trying to use it exactly?
[15:53] <lolcatz> an ongoing debate of course in a country which thinks their laws should stretch out everywhere but ok, not for here :) im gonna go afk for a bit
[15:53] <YankDownUnder> ruum, sudo updatedb
[15:53] <chezni> I'm new to this whole linux thing, how could I tell if I will be able to install it on my netbook and if the applications I want will work?
[15:53] <lolcatz> btw.. can anyone here tell me ifI could keep a kernel compile to under ~1.5 GB?
[15:53] <lolcatz> on a dual core
[15:53] <compdoc> chezni, what applications do you want?
[15:53] <jrib> chezni: you can try ubuntu off the cd before installing with the desktop cd
[15:54] <ruum> that is weird that I would lose permission to that command
[15:54] <ecolitan> hi everyone
[15:54] <ruum> I used to be able to do it all the time!!!
[15:54] <lolcatz> chezni... if no particular specialised applications, then a slong as you have a 'normal' brand/model it should be pretty fine.. what have you got chezni?
[15:54] <jonalv> sipior: thanks for your help, I ran bibtex manually and now it works, I wonder if there was some sort of bug in latexmk that bit me...
[15:54] <ruum> anyway thanks
[15:55] <chezni> compdoc amsn, weechat and vlc media player
[15:55] <lolcatz> which model have u got (laptop) chezni?
[15:55] <chezni> lolcatz it would be the samsung n150
[15:55] <amit> how can i know my motherboard support upto how much ram?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> amit: mnufacturers site or manual
[15:55] <lolcatz> go for the dekstop cd, as they say load the live cd and try but sound sliek that should be fine
[15:56] <lolcatz> amit: lol erm go to manufacturers website? :)
[15:56] <lolcatz> the ram support is hardware specific to the motherboard , not OS
[15:56] <chezni> thanks
[15:56] <amit> ActionParsnip: is there npt any command like lshw from terminal to know this?
[15:56] <lolcatz> the kernels of linux on modern distros will handle anythinogn you would use today realistically, so it is your mobo bus which will determine that
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> amit: doubtful. What make /model is the motherboard?
[15:57] <lolcatz> chezni
[15:57] <lolcatz> oh
[15:57] <lolcatz> sorry tits a netbook
[15:57] <chezni> oh yea sorry thats what i meant
[15:57] <drexl> tits ya
[15:58] <lolcatz> hmm you will have to ask others.. I helped a friend install ubuntu netbook edition on an atom and it was slower than xp and i felt stupid as she wanted it to go faster for her trip to asia
[15:58] <lolcatz> so I am a bit wary on the netbook editions
[15:58] <lolcatz> lol drexl, I meant its*
[15:58] <lolcatz> or tis*
[15:58] <lolcatz> ;)
[15:58] <chezni> so probably better off to get an older laptop for cheap than a netbook?
[15:59] <ecolitan> i installed python3.1 through the maverick backport and want to use the new version, but system still runs the old version
[15:59] <lolcatz> chezni.. no, I can't vouch for how well various distros generally run on the netbooks.. but if the size doesnt matter, I would recommend for performance that option yes... but not if the size is paramount for ya :)
[15:59] <Pici> ecolitan: How are you trying to use it?
[15:59] <ecolitan> in a script
[15:59] <Pici> ecolitan: I realize that. But how are you executing your script?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> chezni: lolcatz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[16:00] <ecolitan> i changed the first line to #!/usr/bin/python3.1 but it still seems to be calling the old version
[16:00] <Fjodor> lolcatz: Sorry for the OT post, but there is a saying in Danish that translates to "the mouth spills over with what the heart is full of" ;-)
[16:00] <lolcatz> I was trying various distros and reading up for her a while ago (in december) but I got a bit disillusioned by netbooks so I am stayign clear from them for now :p
[16:00] <Fjodor> lolcatz: Regarding you "tits"-typo
[16:00] <uXu> Im new with Ubuntu, and the wireless internet dont seam to work. I have tried looking around on the internet from another computer, but havent been lucky to find an answer. :-)
[16:00] <lolcatz> haha ok sorry iI will be quiet.. Det er alltid rigtig bra A komme med nogen danske gloser ja
[16:00] <ecolitan> Pici: executing in geany editor...will try cli
[16:01] <Pici> ecolitan: good idea.
[16:01] <lolcatz> ah I see Fjodor  :P
[16:01] <fazer> HELLO somebody an idea for my soon coming website. The content is: help, homeworks, reports. for highschool students? :)
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> uXu: if you run: sudo lshw -C network    you will see the product line for the device, what does it say?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> !ot | fazer
[16:01] <Roasted_> lolcatz, hey some people are telling me I just need to check "available to all users" in network manager for the SSID. Do you know how I can test this to see if I have a connection @ login screen?
[16:01] <Fjodor> lolcatz: Just wanted to share it. I'll be quiet now and go to the friday bar instead :-)
[16:02] <fazer> ubottu: ok
[16:02] <lolcatz> still, I had two quetions and no answers.. anyone: A. cpufreq ain't working on my amd64 (ubuntu studio however, but all seems well and I enabled the it87 module since I am on X2 555 and B. could I cimpile an unbuntu-2.6.35.X on a ramdisk , wieghin in at ~ 1.5 GB  yes|no?
[16:03] <lolcatz> haha its cool Fjodor , im a chat moster myself and always like to mix up sincere chat with garbage, a la D. Adams say ;p
[16:03] <lolcatz> monster*
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> lolcatz: the ramdisk should be fine
[16:03] <Fjodor> lolcatz: :-D
[16:03] <muneeb> what is the exact name of "Startup Applications" in Ubuntu? I want to start it from terminal.
[16:03] <austinium> hi all...i am trying to export all email from Lotus Notes from a laptop whose display just died(have it hooked to external display) to my Ubuntu machine
[16:03] <AbhijiT> i am runnning one video on one website and its not saved there in /tmp neither in /home/user/tmp
[16:03] <AbhijiT> help
[16:03] <lolcatz> ok, as I saw soem examples claiming it cwould grow to 4-5 GB but that is perhaps some poor chooices in compile flags.. thank you ActionParsnip
[16:03] <rick_2047> hey people when I try to install something the synaptic just downloads very very very slow
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> AbhijiT: try youtube-dl
[16:04] <AbhijiT> its not youtube
[16:04] <rick_2047> the problem is not at downloading it is in dns look up like things
[16:04] <lolcatz> muneeb, , I would imagine that is an internal command to the gnome-panel
[16:04] <austinium> i cant seem to be able to figure out how to get mails out of notes
[16:04] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, its not youtube
[16:04] <ecolitan> Pici: thanks for the tip!
[16:04] <lolcatz> it is not a stand-along window , I dont think
[16:04] <compdoc> muneeb, gnome-session-properties
[16:04] <uXu> ActionParsnip - It just lists up alot of infos.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> AbhijiT: if it uses flash to play video it'll most likely work the same
[16:04] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, okay
[16:05] <Fjodor> lolcatz: My latest compile was of 1.6.38-rc6 and the dir weighs in at 1,5G so YMMW...
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> uXu: yes, read it and one line will say:    product:   and tell you what wireless chip you have
[16:05] <lolcatz> heeh fjodor.. sa i hvilken by, kommer den danske fra?
[16:05] <alex|_> Hey, had Ubuntu 10.10 for a week or so now, but I've just noticed that when starting up, I don't get a screen like this anymore: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_85DjSgDVlqU/S92tAZFWY7I/AAAAAAAAAZE/culvD56IihM/s400/boot.png
[16:05] <Roasted_> lolcatz, yo... seems as if "available to all users" in network manager is all I had to do.
[16:05] <muneeb> compdoc,  thanks I'll try..
[16:05] <drexl> rick_2047: is your repositories list set to a mirror in your counrty?
[16:05] <lolcatz> ok but 1.6 Oo wow...
[16:05] <compdoc> muneeb, dont forget sudo
[16:05] <Roasted_> lolcatz, I enabled it and @ login screen did a CTRL ALT F2 and ran ifconfig, and I had an IP. I went back, disabled it, rebooted, CTRL ALT F2 and ifconfig again, no IP...
[16:05] <rick_2047> drexl: yup, everything at in.ubuntu.com
[16:05] <obiwan_> hey all. im having a really bad week. i just cant install maverick netbook edition on moms dell mini 9. after blaming her for picking a computer with a cheapo 4gb ssd disk, im feeling really frustrated with these errors everywhere. first it was the 'ui' keyword in the syslinux file, then the initrmfs 'could not find a live device', and a long list. i am asking as a last attempt before downgrading again to lucid lynx. if anyone ...
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> alex|_:  if youy are refering tot he plymouth animation it can have issues with the nvidia or ati drivers.  so you may not see it. or it may show up wrongly
[16:05] <obiwan_> ... succesfully installed maverick on a dell mini 9 , plese be so kind to let me know. thanks :()
[16:06] <lolcatz> Roasted_,  ! see, the experienced ones always know what they talk about.. I am liek George Double_U Bush: SPeak out of my arse, then I attempt to think and realise I can't think as my answer has no true meaning to the question!
[16:06] <muneeb> compdoc, where are these preferences stored if i want to edit it manually?
[16:06] <lolcatz> ;)
[16:06] <lolcatz> 42!!!!
[16:06] <alex|_> Dr_Willis: It seems to be replaced with something else. I am using NVidia drivers
[16:06] <Fjodor> lolcatz: Originally from a outside a small village near the German border, but I've been in Århus for close to 13 years now. For the sake of others, I keep this in English, but where are you situated?
[16:06] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, but the problem is why it done save the video to /tmp as usual? whats wrong?
[16:06] <alex|_> It's sort of a very basic and horrible-looking version
[16:06] <Roasted_> lolcatz, I have no idea what you just said.
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> alex|_:  plymouth has themes.. but i just disable plymouth
[16:06] <uXu> ActionParsnip - It gives me some kind og RTL number.
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> alex|_:  sounds like classic nvidia drivers fighting with plymouth.
[16:06] <lolcatz> Holland: but originally London... however kinda lived in the fjords an dmountains of Norway village smyself for a good 2 decades or so ;)
[16:07] <lolcatz> Roasted_, I know :)
[16:07] <lolcatz> (neither did I)
[16:07] <Roasted_> lolcatz, I like your style.
[16:07] <lolcatz> :D
[16:07] <lolcatz> no one equal to me, no one below!
[16:07] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, youtube-dl is working btw
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> uXu: yes, what is it?
[16:07] <Fjodor> lolcatz: Ah, ok. That explains your knowledge of the language then :-)
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> AbhijiT: sweet, saves messing with /tmp nonesense
[16:08] <uXu> ActionParsnip - Can i PM?
[16:08] <lolcatz> ja.. mAske det :)
[16:08] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, ok
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> uXu: its a single line so is ok to paste here
[16:08] <Fjodor> lolcatz: I'll have to be off for the Friday bar right about now, though, but we might run into each other another time :-)
[16:08] <Fjodor> Ha det gott! :-)
[16:08] <PhoenixSTF> Got a issue with ath9k on Eeepc 1101ha, can t get 802.11n to work.
[16:08] <lolcatz> 1.6 is quite an ancient kernel OMG.. but hmm I just don't want to run out of space when compiling 'forever'.. but then again... if I run it on ramdisk lets say 20-25 times faster.. so a 3 hour com0ile would be only 01 mins
[16:08] <uXu> RTL-8139/8139C/8129+ ActionParsnip
[16:08] <lolcatz> so I guess I should just go for it!
[16:09] <lolcatz> ok Fjodor , have a nice one! :)
[16:09] <uXu> A type fail, this is what is says: RTL-8139/8139C/8139+ ActionParsnip
[16:09] <Fjodor> lolcatz: And ok, I meant, of course 2.6.38-rc6 :-$
[16:09] <lolcatz> Roasted_, my point was that hmm, I won't be your best bet on solving your problem..
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: not all chips can do n speed under lInux
[16:09] <Roasted_> lolcatz, I wasn't asking for help. I was telling you how I solved the question I asked you about earlier :P
[16:09] <alberto> I have a problem while bootin from the ubuntu 10.10 i386 CD. I get this error: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed
[16:10] <lolcatz> aaaaaaah Niceee I want to do the 38 as it inivolves soem more OC settings I could need as I build OC comps.. (oooh I love having a stable 24/7 4.1 GHz comp :P)
[16:10] <muneeb>  where the preferences of gnome-session-properties are stored, i want to edit it manually?
[16:10] <lolcatz> oh, but yyou said it didn't work when you rebooted back in
[16:10] <lolcatz> ?
[16:10] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, well i got the AR9285 chip
[16:10] <stianhj> PhoenixSTF, which version of ubuntu?
[16:10] <lolcatz> Roasted_,  I mean... ye I know I saw it and was nice to see hwo easy it was .. but then it seemd you hit another issue?
[16:10] <uXu> ActionParsnip - Got an idea?
[16:10] <lolcatz> Fjodor,  but 38 isn't int he maverick line
[16:10] <PhoenixSTF> stianhj, maverick 32bit
[16:10] <Roasted_> lolcatz, well I had 2 questions, 1 was solved
[16:10] <Roasted_> the other, not yet :P
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: you may benefit from installing linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> uXu: let me websearch
[16:11] <uXu> ActionParsnip - :-)
[16:11] <lolcatz> and I do want to be able to update it so, althoguh I will also compile a 38 and test out IF the ramdisk holds up :)
[16:11] <ionut> anyone knows a good webscrapping program?
[16:11] <lolcatz> I'll make it 2 GB then
[16:11] <lolcatz> and give it a try :)
[16:11] <stianhj> PhoenixSTF, I had problems with N networks in maverick.. but I think that was a intel wifi driver problem though
[16:11] <uXu> ActionParsnip - Can help it, being exited :-)
[16:11] <Fjodor> lolcatz: just get in from kernel.org and use make-kpkg to build. Works like a charm for me :-)
[16:11] <erUSUL> !info httrack
[16:11] <Fjodor> *it
[16:11] <PhoenixSTF> Actionparsnip, did that already m8, tried almost every backport modules wireless
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> uXu: thats the wired connection, RTL-8139 is an ethernet chip
[16:11] <erUSUL> curl or wget
[16:11] <uXu> ActionParsnip - Finally a desent person. :-)
[16:12] <lolcatz> ya I was doing it the maverick way now for a stable supported custom mav kernel but iom also gonna throw myself on the 38
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: may have to compile the driver then, otherwise just sit on G
[16:12] <lolcatz> how is the rc6?
[16:12] <lolcatz> ?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> uXu: is the wireless device usb based?
[16:12] <cpach> hi folks! my laptop's left speaker is broken, so i'm trying to mix pulseaudio's output to mono. is there anyone here who knows how to achieve this?
[16:12] <PhoenixSTF> actionParsnip, ok ill try and complile, where do i go?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> lolcatz: its not an official maverick kernel so is offtopic here
[16:12] <erUSUL> cpach: maybe in #pulseaudio?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: the realtek guys have source for wireless chips under linux
[16:13] <uXu> ActionParsnip - What do you mean USB based? Its a small wireless modem.
[16:13] <lolcatz> yes sory Fjodor said he is off so just thought Id ask btu you are right.. fjord Im me sometime !!
[16:13] <PhoenixSTF> stianhj, its Atheros chip very good chip not so good on linux...
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> uXu: which connects to a USB port?
[16:13] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParnsip, its a Atheros
[16:13] <lolcatz> cpach, you shoudl be able to in your preferences or system , choose the pulseaudio volume settings and change output to mono I thought
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: i see, hmm are there bugs logged for the chip?
[16:13] <cpach> erUSUL: yeah, tried there, but didn't come so far.
[16:14] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, yes but no one is paying atention to them
[16:14] <lolcatz> PhoenixSTF, IO have an atheros chip and works quite ok here but its a desktop mobo
[16:14] <cpach> lolcatz: i think that option is available only for soundcards that have the feature built-in.
[16:14] <uXu> ActionParsnip - It does not.
[16:14] <uXu> ActionParsnip - Strictly wireless.
[16:14] <rt1729> hello everyone
[16:14] <lolcatz> ah cpach :D
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> uXu: ok, then can you run:  lspci   and give the one line which releates to the wireless
[16:14] <ionut> anyone knows a good webscrapping program?
[16:14] <rt1729> do u mean web crawler?
[16:15] <PhoenixSTF> lolcatz, I wish :) it works ok under G, but i got a big house, and G is not enouth!
[16:15] <lolcatz> ok im off for a bit to do some house work gaaah, at kernel was answered Ill see if cpu freq decides to work on the <IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu branch
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: not sure then, you may be stuck. You may find the atheros drivers online you can compile, like the madwifi ones in the madwifi-ng
[16:15] <lolcatz> OMG ,.. very 'big house' student house I presume?
[16:15] <rt1729> anyone from andhra pradesh
[16:15] <rt1729> is there anyone who knows telugu?
[16:16] <g0rby> problems with G tend to pertain  to diversity in my experiance
[16:16] <ewook> well, you perhaps?
[16:16] <habermann24> is there a way to define attr_accessible in a dynamic fashion?? something like:   attr_accessible :role_ids, :if => :admin?
[16:16] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, what do you recomend, sit or try?
[16:16] <g0rby> try setting the router to G also if thats an option
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: depends how bothered you are
[16:16] <Fjodor> lolcatz: Just want to finish this, then. Discussion of the kernel is obviously OT, but how to compile it the debian/ubuntu way shouldn't be, so here's what I do: download the source from kernel.org, unpack, copy over the previous .config 'make oldconfig' and then 'make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --append-to-version -sune-1 --initrd kernel_headers kernel_image'. You *may* want to adjust the argument to the --append-to-version flag, though ;-)
[16:16] <rt1729> s there anyone who knows telugu?
[16:17] <uXu> ActionParsnip - Its types back: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | uXu
[16:17] <erUSUL> !kernel > Fjodor
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> uXu: also make sure when you run:  rfkill list    none are blocked
[16:18] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, bothered, well my wife is complaining, its her laptop! LOL
[16:18] <erUSUL> Fjodor: ouch
[16:18] <erUSUL> Fjodor: sorry
[16:18] <kanthbc> hi im using linux mint 10.when i try to login there is error saying that "gnome power manager not installed" what to do?????
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: and she notices the speed?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> !mint | kanthbc
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> kanthbc:  install it perhaps.. and see the Mint help channels.
[16:18] <hermanlf> Just installed Ubuntu 10.10 i386 Desktop. I'm using an LCD monitor and the desktop area and splash area are slightly off of the monitor to the left. I can correct this by changing refresh rate to 75 for the desktop, but how can I fix it for the splash screen?
[16:19] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, problem is not the speed its actualy the range!
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: I see, didn't know that
[16:19] <Fjodor> erUSUL: Duly noted - he just stated that he contemplated compiling .38 and I found a short explanation of the debian/ubuntu way of compiling kernels to be within the topic of this channel
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: could try a different distro if Ubuntu doesn't suit your  needs
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: or grab a new wireless device
[16:19] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, G you can get some range, but N it goes for almost the double
[16:19] <dissolution> Can any one confirm a random log out happening in 10.10 have something to do with the screen saver ??
[16:20] <g0rby> or, try setting the router to G
[16:20] <Roasted_> Is there a way to put a password on software center?
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> hermanlf:  you could try setting the 'gdm' users settings  vya the following 2 commands.
[16:20] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, iam gonna try and fix it somehow
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> xhost +SI:localuser:gdm
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: my place is small so not noticed. I don't even know what I'm using, it just works
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> hermanlf:  those should let you tweak some of the gnome settings that gdm uses.
[16:20] <erUSUL> Fjodor: i apologized for giving you a factoid you aboviously disn't need. you do not have to note anything :)
[16:20] <g0rby> in bussy network environments where the router is n G adapters often have diversity issues.
[16:20] <erUSUL> Roasted_: it already ask for one
[16:20] <Fjodor> erUSUL: Hehe, ok then :-)
[16:20] <Roasted_> erUSUL, I mean to even OPEN it.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: try Suse or mandriva, see if its nicer
[16:21] <erUSUL> Roasted_: what are you tying to prevent?
[16:21] <hermanlf> Dr_Willis, thanks I'll try it.
[16:21] <g0rby> in that scenario you see the signal ping back and forth often
[16:21] <ruiserra> where can I change my keyboard layout on ubuntu 10.10 by shell?
[16:21] <drc> PhoenixSTF: there are "repeaters" see http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx especially #5
[16:21] <Roasted_> erUSUL, we're toying with the idea of having Ubuntu on some student computers here. I'd rather have the software center require a PW to even open so they dont spend hours distracted by the awesome amount of packages in it. :P
[16:21] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, remenber i am talking about my wife here, if I complicate this she will have my head! LOL
[16:22] <cube1> hey guys, help!!! my netbook is playing a very loud HRRRRRRRRRRR like noise when starting up! and it continues like that forever
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: suse isn't any more complicated
[16:22] <PhoenixSTF> drc: repeaters are nice but that not actualy a greeen solution!
[16:22] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, well its a bit diferent and im afraid whe wont take it nicely
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: it does, users not in the admin group won't be able to do anything but use the installed apps
[16:22] <ShadowDXS> hello everyone
[16:23] <dissolution> riserra: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: then you will need a repeater
[16:23] <ShadowDXS> I need some help if anyone is available
[16:23] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, nope.
[16:23] <cube1> hey guys, help!!! my netbook is playing a very loud HRRRRRRRRRRR like noise when starting up! and it continues like that forever
[16:23] <cube1> hey guys, help!!! my netbook is playing a very loud HRRRRRRRRRRR like noise when starting up! and it continues like that forever
[16:23] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, I'm on as a limited user now and I can open it without a password.
[16:23] <cube1> guys it's urgent!!! what shoiuld i do!?!?!
[16:23] <FloodBot2> cube1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23] <cube1> to kill the sound
[16:23] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, granted I would need a PW to install anything, but the idea is to block them from browsing for periods of time.
[16:23] <BiPolah> cube1: I'll assume that's either your fan or your drive starting up
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: sure but you shouldn't be able to install stuff
[16:23] <BiPolah> cube1: Does it stop after booting?
[16:23] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, I know.
[16:24] <Fjodor> ShadowDXS: Just ask the question. If anyone knows, they'll answer :-)
[16:24] <Fjodor> ShadowDXS: Not sure if I have the time for it myself, though
[16:24] <cube1> BiPolah: no, it keeps goign on. i just installed cpufrequtils, maybe that's why?
[16:24] <erUSUL> Roasted_: edit the menus to not include the software center?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: you could move it from /usr/share/applications  and onto your admin desktop ;)
[16:24] <Roasted_> erUSUL, if I do that, how could I access it if I NEEDED it?
[16:24] <Diverdude> what is the process called Xorg? For some reason it occupies 80-90% of my CPU all the time
[16:24] <Roasted_> erUSUL, would it still be on the local administrator desktop?
[16:25] <ShadowDXS> I have a Intel  Graphics Media Acceleration card on a Acer Extensa 5230E, and i can not, for the life of me get 3d desktop effects (wobbly windows) to work
[16:25] <erUSUL> Roasted_: well that will be per user. so yes the admin will have it there
[16:25] <ShadowDXS> Intel  Graphics Media Acceleration card 4500MHD is the card i have
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: run:  sudo lshw -C display    what is output (use a pastebin to host)
[16:26] <Diverdude> anyone?
[16:26] <Roasted_> erUSUL, ActionParsnip, I see the removal thing from edit menus works fine. But uh.. is there a way to require a PW to open edit menus? :P :P
[16:26] <BiPolah> cube1: Put your hand by the fan and see what the airflow is like. If it seems normal, it's probably your drive failing; run a SMART test on it
[16:26] <ShadowDXS> one sec
[16:26] <erUSUL> Roasted_: well time to llok at some of the desktop conf locking tools for genome...
[16:27] <Roasted_> erUSUL, any names come to mind for me to check out?
[16:27] <Fjodor> Diverdude: That would be the process that's responsible for graphics as a whole. SOunds weird for it to use that many ressources, though
[16:27] <cube1> BiPolah: no, it's 100% the speakers, if i plug in the headphones i can hear it through them
[16:27] <hermanlf> Dr_Willis, That actually not what I was looking for. I need to move the splash screen that shows "UBUNTU" and the flashing dots during bootup slightly to the right. I know this can be done if only I can chage the refresh rate for that part of the bootup to 75.
[16:27] <guest175> snow, snow everywere ??
[16:27] <ripps> How do I get Vdpau flash working? I have a nvidia gt240 and I know the vdpau works with mplayer, but it won't work with flash 10.2. The adobe demos say that stage video isn't running
[16:27] <BiPolah> cube1: Oh, I thought it was a mechanical noise thing. It's just white noise from your speakers that never turns off? An issue with pulseaudio or something I imagine
[16:27] <ShadowDXS> http://pastebin.com/UHjAu5jm
[16:28] <erUSUL> Roasted_: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/62060
[16:28] <erUSUL> Roasted_: http://library.gnome.org/admin/deployment-guide/
[16:28] <ShadowDXS> OS is ubuntu 10.10
[16:28] <erUSUL> Roasted_: http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linuxkiosk/ubuntu01.htm
[16:28] <Roasted_> geez
[16:28] <Roasted_> erUSUL, I owe you a beer
[16:28] <Roasted_> thanks bro
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: users can edit menus as they wish.You could make them owned by root but give everybody read access only. This will prevent editting
[16:28] <cube1> BiPolah: yeah exactly. how to fix it?
[16:28] <erUSUL> Roasted_: that from a quick google search. maybe people in #edubuntu can help further
[16:29] <BiPolah> cube1: No idea how to fix it, sorry. Could try reinstalling pulseaudio
[16:29] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, well I removed "games" from the menu too, but I dont want htem to re-enable "games" being available. You know how high schools are. Once ONE knows, the entire building knows.
[16:30] <astrostl> if i'm running 10.04 LTS and i want some specific newer packages, is my only option to fetch one from the next version up and hope that it doesn't have dependencies that will overwrite base stuff?
[16:30] <cube1> BiPolah: kk
[16:30] <Fjodor> cube1, BiPolah: As I *really* should get going, I'll just throw this out here: At what point in time during boot-up does the noise start? Could be a case of fiddling with module parameters instead if it starts before pulseaudio is loaded...
[16:30] <astrostl> or put another way, i'm wondering if there's an ubuntu analog to the EPEL yum repository
[16:30] <ShadowDXS> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/UHjAu5jm
[16:30] <kop> what up
[16:31] <cube1> Fjodor: right before the "UBUNTU 10.10" pops up
[16:31] <cube1> Fjodor: might be when X is starting up, not sure
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: yep, find where the menu data is held for the desktop you are using and chown it to root:root but then run:  chmod o-w; chmod o+rx     on the folder/file/whatever and they will only have read access
[16:31] <raving> astrostl, you might update apt before you try something like that if you haven't already
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: you use an atom cpu don't you?
[16:31] <ShadowDXS> uh no
[16:31] <ShadowDXS> intel celeron
[16:31] <astrostl> raving: it works fine for non-dependency-connected one-offs like puppet
[16:31] <henk_> Hmail
[16:31] <ShadowDXS> not atom
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: ok cool
[16:32] <Fjodor> cube1: In the latter case, BiPolah might very well be right in assuming a pulseaudio problem but I can't help either
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: is the system a branded pc or laptop?
[16:32] <ShadowDXS> laptop
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: what make and model please
[16:32] <ShadowDXS> Acer
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: model?
[16:32] <raving> astrostl, it would naturally work for some packages; if your required to update some core dependencies, it might become a bit of an issue.
[16:32] <ShadowDXS> Acer Extensa 5230E
[16:33] <raving> astrostl, you might also look into building from source if you don't want to risk that
[16:33] <astrostl> raving: i agree, ergo my question.  is there a better repository for such items?
[16:33] <raving> astrostl, well, there may be a PPA for your package
[16:34] <uXu> ActionParsnip - None is blocked.
[16:34] <raving> I don't use ubuntu that regularly (it's on my workstation at work), but it's my understanding that PPAs are like little unofficial, project-specific repos
[16:34] <astrostl> raving: these are for things included in ubuntu, and updated in later versions of ubuntu.  aren't ppas just for things that aren't currently packaged?
[16:34] <teddyb> is it possible to run the file browser with sudo?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> uXu: ok then the guide will help
[16:34] <Fjodor> astrostl: Building from source would be the way to go in most cases. Get the *original.tar.gz and the .dsc and .diff packages. Unpack with dpkg-source -x file.dsc...
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: ok if you run:  lsmod | grep acer       do you see acer_wmi?
[16:35] <ruiserra> there is even a file to change the keyboard layout
[16:35] <uXu> ActionParsnip - Im trying :-)
[16:35] <Fjodor> astrostl: The cd to the dir that's created and issue dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[16:35] <astrostl> well if that's all there is, it's all there is.  i appreciate the info, but strongly prefer having a repo like epel out there.
[16:35] <ShadowDXS> yes
[16:35] <lolcatz> ooh the good old days of highs chool
[16:35] <raving> astrostl, I've never used yum, what is epel like?
[16:36] <Fjodor> You might want to issue a sudo apt-get build-dep packagename first, though
[16:36] <astrostl> thanks for the assistance
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: cool
[16:36] <lolcatz> anyway, off again, making chicken soup and just hacked it up to pieces now to rememebr wtf I use as spices  :p
[16:36] <lolcatz> aka google is your friend, even when cooking ;)
[16:36] <ShadowDXS> acer_wmi                              13929 0
[16:36] <ShadowDXS> thats what it reads
[16:36] <astrostl> raving: it's just a public repository which has more stuff, and newer versions of it.  and none of them clobber your base system.
[16:36] <ShadowDXS> then below that it says
[16:36] <raving> lolcatz, google has saved my hide more than once for cooking.
[16:37] <obiwan_> guys, _with out_ using other than vfat file systems, do you know some way i could make a bootable maverick thumb drive ? i've tried cp -a /mnt/iso/* /mnt/usb but symlinks arent accepted by the fat fs in the usb. i repeat, no ext3 or other fs's involved other than fat. any way to still make it?
[16:37] <raving> astrostl, oh, so like aur on arch?
[16:37] <ShadowDXS> led_class                         2633 2 ath9k,acer_wmi
[16:37] <Fjodor> astrostl: You *might* also be able to benefit from the backports and proposed repos. Find them in Software Souces under the tab Updates
[16:37] <astrostl> an equivalent would be some kind of public apt repo for 10.04 LTS users, which has more packages than 10.04 LTS and also updated versions of those already included
[16:38] <astrostl> if you start grabbing packages from 10.10, for example, you can get in trouble fast because of dependency chains.
[16:38] <bjv> vbox question:   why is /usr not owned by root:root in maverick?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10494073 (just made)
[16:38] <vanco> after installing bind, the command sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart does not work
[16:38] <vanco> there is no bind9 file in init.d
[16:38] <lolcatz> raving hehe ye , my problem is I do a lot of 'custom' cooking so I dont use basic recipes for more than to start,, however.. being a bloke and all, I can't be arsed always rememebring stuff like how do I do my chick soups agian... so i need to find the basics to make sure i rememebr what I go ah ye.. thats it.. and now for my lil edits :p
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: I only know of making an xorg.conf to make those chips work. This may help (or break) your system: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[16:38] <Fjodor> astrostl: And indeed there could be trouble, but for many packages, the above procedure for building from souce might help
[16:38] <vanco> two weeks ago when i first installed it
[16:38] <lolcatz> speaking of which, I just found
[16:38] <g0rby> lolcatz: soup us all about stock =>
[16:38] <vanco> the command worked
[16:39] <raving> astrostl, is there a reason why you don't want to upgrade to 10.10? (just out of curiousity, I understand there are sometimes legitimate reasons not to)
[16:39] <g0rby> is*
[16:39] <astrostl> LTS
[16:39] <bjv> Oracle seems to want the entire directory tree from /usr to be root owned "for security reasons"    - searching did not find a prior thread,
[16:39] <astrostl> business
[16:39] <astrostl> hundreds of servers/workstations
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> bjv: drwxr-xr-x  11 root root  4096 2011-02-22 15:48 usr       it is
[16:39] <bjv> ActionParsnip: hmmmm
[16:39] <drexl> obiwan_: I had the same problem with symlinks, try knoppix 6.2 it's very cool and you can have a persistant hardrive image
[16:39] <raving> lolcatz, the extent of my cooking abilities have been to memorize and master one recipe; I just really never get the time to cook anymore, not since I started grad school.
[16:39] <g0rby> I find ham / veg / chick stocks all good for that kind of broth
[16:40] <astrostl> fjodor: i hear you on source builds.  we've also got our own apt repository for internal builds.  i find it sub-optimal to something out there built for us that just works, though :)
[16:40] <rishu> how do i knowthrough termianl that i am using 64 bit?
[16:40] <sipior> raving: g0rby lolcatz : #ubuntu-offtopic, if you please.
[16:40] <bjv> ActionParsnip: then i guess the question is why is my /usr owned by 2402:dip
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> rishu: uname -a
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> bjv: no idea
[16:40] <raving> astrostl, ahh, I see; that makes good sense
[16:40] <Fjodor> astrostl: Understandable, which is where backports and proposed might come in handy
[16:40] <lolcatz> ye im doin git like th9is : cleave the chicken up (~ 1 kg) fill 2/3 water huge pot, salt , pepper... cook for hmm i think an hour or till the meat comes right off, take it out debone it all ,then i whack it back, add the stock (buillion 1 piece) plus more salt pepper, the veggies and hmm did i say psices (i cook very spicey/aormatic), a ton of persian herbs/italian ) and after 20 mins I add the potatoes so they get done after 2.5 hrs o
[16:40] <lolcatz> r so i have my soup (I use potatoes instead of spaghetti which we use in polish recipes)
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> rishu: i686 == 32bit     x86_64 == 64bit
[16:40] <raving> sipior, ahh, sorry; I'll try not to go offtopic in the future.
[16:40] <lolcatz> thank you sipior sorry abt that
[16:41] <craigbass1976> I've got a 35 meg xml file.  What's the best way to look at it?  Geany and firefox both crap out hard when I try
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> rishu: uname -m    will be esier ;)
[16:41] <rishu> ya m using 64bit and it is very fast comapred to 32 bit
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: gedit
[16:41] <cpach> craigbass1976: i think gedit can handle it
[16:41] <lolcatz> raving : LOL
[16:41] <asmy> Hello, does anybody know why I can find a copy of /usr/include? I've messed mine up and can't find another.
[16:41] <lolcatz> brb
[16:41] <raving> astrostl, well, as Fjodor said, your best bet may be to compile from source and then possibly package the deb yourself.
[16:41] <asmy> (Like the default one that comes with Ubuntu.)
[16:41] <rodin> In bash, what is the type of $* plz ?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> rishu: depends what you use it for
[16:41] <ShadowDXS> ok i'm there
[16:41] <astrostl> i already do that
[16:41] <raving> rodin, a list of strings.
[16:41] <ShadowDXS> but what do i download and install?
[16:41] <rishu> ActionParsnip: thax
[16:41] <coi> hi guys. im new to ubuntu and have found that the default repo doesnt have very up-to-date packages. what repo could provide more updates packages?
[16:42] <rodin> raving: It isn't possible to have an array ?
[16:42] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, geany is supposed to as well, but it's not.  I'm on Lubuntu and don't want to install gedit, unless that doesn't mean I get half of GNOME as well...
[16:42] <astrostl> backports for lucid are pretty dry atm but it would be a solution if active
[16:42] <rishu> ActionParsnip: it is fast than 32 bit os and smooth to use
[16:42] <raving> rodin, in bash? I believe so.
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: then leafpad
[16:42] <rodin> raving: Ok ok
[16:42] <raving> I don't do a ton of shell scripting, I've always preferred C or perl instead.
[16:42] <Fjodor> astrostl: Sorry to hear, but now I'm really, really going so good luck
[16:42] <raving> rodin, but I remeber reading somewhere that bash supported arrays proper
[16:42] <obiwan_> thanks drexl i already tried it and its very nice, but it's moms netbook and i guess she'll rather stay in ubuntu hehe. i chose to use ext3 as a last resort, and as expected its working so far, /me crosses fingers
[16:42] <ShadowDXS> xserver-xorg-video-intell?
[16:42] <ShadowDXS> intel*
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> rishu: use which you prefer, there is no right answer  :). If you have more than 3.2Gb RAM then use the pae kernel
[16:43] <astrostl> fjodor thx for the assistance!
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> ShadowDXS: add the ppa and update, it may help
[16:43] <bjv> i dont even see a user 2402 in /etc/passwd
[16:43] <rishu> ActionParsnip: i have 4gb of ram and what is pae kernel and what is its benifit
[16:43] <drexl> obiwan_: I've been trying to do that for years but my computer won't boot off a usb unless it's fat16 cause' it's old
[16:43] <Fjodor> astrostl: As far as the usefulness of my advice, I *do* think I'm correct in stating that it was the least I could do ;-)
[16:43] <drexl> sen me a copy when you're done
[16:44] <astrostl> heh :)
[16:44] <bjv> there is a guy with those permissions on /usr/local/cuda/CudaVisualProfiler/bin/
[16:44] <vanco> need help with restarting dns bind
[16:44] <bjv> http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?s=f42e9e2447213d612d089b9ed5765e2a&showtopic=84377&view=findpost&p=478202
[16:44] <astrostl> info is info, always good to get it
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> rishu: your OS can only reference 3.2Gb so PAE will give you the remaining 800Mb accessible. However each process can only access a maximum of 3.2Gb
[16:44] <bjv> but this is a fresh install, on intel graphics. i've never messed with cuda :\
[16:44] <ionut> guys I have a HARD DRIVE that once had some very important information , the information that people get killed for, and i formated it (the hard drive), but sometimes you can recover the hard drive and see what once before was on it. how can i do to delete that forever ?
[16:44] <sipior> rodin: does "$@" not do what you want?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> ionut: use shred on it
[16:44] <bjv> ionut melt it
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> ionut: or simply take a hammer to it to shatter the platters
[16:45] <raving> ionut, or you could use /dev/zero and dd to zero it out
[16:45] <rishu> ActionParnisp: so i have installed 64bit ubuntu how do i go for PAE kernel plz explain sir!
[16:45] <di||itante> raido
[16:45] <Roasted_> If I have 100 computers on the nework with the same name, would it have the same problem Windows would have? or would it still be best to rename them all?
[16:45] <AbhijiT> !pae
[16:45] <ionut> ActionParsnip: i may need that :))
[16:45] <AbhijiT> rishu, ^^^^
[16:46] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, vi seems to handle it.  Not quite the route I wanted to go, but...
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> rishu: 64bit doesn't need PAE, it can reference 16Tb RAM
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: nano maybe
[16:46] <ionut> but anyone knows if is possible to permanently delete the data on a Hard Drive
[16:46] <ionut> ?
[16:46] <rishu> ActionParsnip: thanx i have 64bit processor
 this command (sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup) works, but when I reboot back into normal state
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> ionut: if people 'get killed for it' then I'd definately use a hammer
[16:46] <Fjodor> raving, ionut. Pure zeroing is enough to throw most recovery firms off, but you could dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd<whatever it is> bs=1 followed by the same but with if=/dev/random instead and repeat a few times
[16:46] <astrostl> thx for your help too raving!
[16:46] <rishu> ionut: use s/w swap
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> rishu: doesn't matter, if you have a 32bit OS, the OS drives the CPU
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> rishu: so you will need PAE to access the extra RAM
[16:47] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, vi will work. I just need to see the bleeping thing enough to figure out how to parse it in php.  God forbid someone makes an sql I can just dump in somewhere...  NOOOOOOO, lets make a gigantic xml...
[16:47] <rishu> ActionParnisp: so should i to install PAe ?
[16:48] <drc> ionut: If it IS "information that people get killed for" (which I seriously doubt), then the best thing is to just remove the HHD and beat the damn thing to death with a hammer
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> rishu: i would, install: linux-image-generic-pae
[16:48] <Faza93> siema
[16:48] <arch_nme> I'm trying to get my phone to show up so I can transfer files off it, it's a motorola zn300, it looks like it's being detected but not getting mounted http://paste.ubuntu.com/572241/
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> industural grade demaganizizer :)
[16:48] <Faza93> hi
[16:48] <ionut> Fjodor: i don't know how to do that. now the hard drive is on my other computer with windows installed on other harddrive along with other 9 hard drives , but how the hack should i do that ... delete all the data or substitue the zero ... or one
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> ionut: consdering how cheap drives are and peoples lives are at stake (as you say) then i'd destroy it and buy new
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  many phones have a data mode, or usb-storage mode setting you need to use when you plug them into a pc.
[16:49] <syrinx> throw it in a fire
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> ionut:  theres secure deletion utilities/live cd's out there.
[16:49] <ionut> ActionParsnip: is not just a HARD DRIVE ... otherwise i would killed it long ago
[16:49] <rishu> ActionParnisp: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae    should i have to use this to install or by any external source
[16:49] <Faza93> how download ati hd5500 ubuntu drivers ?
[16:49] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis,  my phone is saying usb mass storage on the screen when I plug it in
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> ionut: then what elese is it?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> !ati | Faza93
[16:49] <Faza93> how download ati hd5500 ubuntu drivers ?
[16:49] <ionut> ActionParsnip: can't tell that , sorry
[16:49] <Fjodor> ionut: If we assume that the drive is /dev/sdb, you issue 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1'...
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  try mounting it by hand. check output of sudo fdisk -l, dmesg, and blkid to see what device its being
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> ionut: just destroy the storage. Unless its a multimillion dollar SAN, it can be replaced
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> Faza93:  try the system -> admin -> addational drivers   tool?
[16:50] <Fjodor> ionut: When finished (it will give an error when it reaches the end - disregard that) you issue 'sudo if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdb bs=1'...
[16:50] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/572241/ there is my output from dmesg and lsusb, how do I mount it though?
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> !mount | arch_nme
[16:51] <Faza93> są polacy ? ?/
[16:51] <Faza93> są polacy ? ?/
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/MAKEADIRCTORY
[16:51] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis, where are you getting the whatever?
[16:51] <ShadowDXS> it still says Desktop effects could not be enabled
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  from the commands i mentioned earlier...
[16:51] <ShadowDXS> O_o
[16:51] <rishu> how to make my one partition mount?
[16:51] <ionut> ActionParsnip: is a computer that i have to my work place (navy) but was cracked and they let other 3 to our base... now i want to fix something about it...
[16:51] <Fjodor> ionut: And repeat until you are satisfied. Some reputable homepage issued a challenge to data recovery firms to recreate anything from at harddrive that had been put through only the first part and none of them would even begin to try, deeming it impossible
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  when you plug it in, wait a few moments and run 'dmesg' it should mention the device.. or  fdisk -l shows ALL devices
[16:52] <ionut> Fjodor: ill give it a try , thanks :O
[16:52] <obiwan_> guys , i happen to get these error many times . now i wonder, is there an easier way other than rebooting to get rid of it? it's the usual , cannot umount, resource busy , try lsof or fuser. even with umount --force
[16:52] <cube1> hey guys. i have heavy white noise when booting ubunti, and it doesnt go away until i manually run the command "pulseaudio". what wohuld i do?
[16:52] <asmy> Does anybody have a default copy of /usr/include, or know where I can get one? i've been asking for a while now. >_>
[16:52] <Fjodor> ionut: There was a reference to an article on slashdot recently, though, that states that this might not hold for solid-state storage
[16:52] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/572241/ this is my dmesg and lsusb output
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> cube1:   run pulse audio as a startup command perhaps.. not a good fix.. but a fix..,
[16:53] <maco> obiwan_: if i run fuser and nothing's actually using it, then i just sync and yank
[16:53] <maco> obiwan_: if something *is* using it, then....close that program
[16:53] <maco> obiwan_: being cd'd into it counts as "using"
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  look for /dev/XXXXX type lines mentioned when you plug the thing in.
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> ionut: so you work with highly sensitive navy data yet you wade into a public irc chat channel for advise??? That's hilarious. Shows how good the navy is when it cant even resolve its own data. Thats hilarious
[16:53] <Faza93> chuj wam w dupe cwele pierdolone niedoruchane pierdolce bez kutasow
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> I belive the military has its own 'specs' on how stuff should be deleted..
[16:54] <syrinx> good point, ActionPoint
[16:54] <needhelp1> does anyone know if gedit add's hidden data in text files that could be used to identify the source
[16:54] <syrinx> PArsnip*
[16:54] <obiwan_> maco: what's sync a command? nothings in. i unpluged the memory long ago
[16:54] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis, it doesn't say anything like that http://paste.ubuntu.com/572241/
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: pretty much, can you smell something ;)
[16:54] <cube1> Dr_Willis: sure. where do i put that? im not using gnome
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  check 'sudo fdisk -l' perhaps the phone is just not seen.
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> cube1:  perhaps state what you are using?
[16:54] <Fjodor> ActionParsnip: Better than just shrugging and selling on eBay, right?
[16:54] <cube1> Dr_Willis: xmonad
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> cube1:  check the xmonad docs.
[16:54] <ionut> ActionParsnip: is in my hands, i was only informing if is any way to delete that. and no one know what is on that hard drive
[16:55] <maco> obiwan_: the command to make data thats waiting to be written to disk be written is "sync"
[16:55] <needhelp1> does anyone know if gedit add's hidden data in text files that could be used to identify the source. How some text editors or office suites add in hidden data into the files like "created by openoffice, date, location, users pc name etc etc"
[16:55] <maco> obiwan_: but thats only relevant if it's plugged in
[16:55] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis, it does see it, fdisk -l doesn't do anything, I see it in dmesg and lsusb though
[16:55] <obiwan_> maco: it isnt, so what should i do?
[16:55] <fish_sticks> msg nickserv identify aarnold
[16:55] <syrinx> oops
[16:55] <maco> needhelp1: gedit only does plain text if i remember right. there's nowhere *to* put metadata in that
[16:55] <maco> obiwan_: ignore it
[16:55] <drexl> ionut: mabey you should just encrypt the sesitive data.
[16:55] <webPragmatist> why would my package update not show updates when i login
[16:56] <arch_nme> [ 4043.032206] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[16:56] <arch_nme> [ 4043.275119] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[16:56] <arch_nme> [ 4043.275273] scsi2 : usb-storage 1-1:1.0
[16:56] <arch_nme> [ 4043.275471] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[16:56] <arch_nme> [ 4043.275474] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[16:56] <FloodBot2> arch_nme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <arch_nme> [ 4044.281988] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Motorola Phone            2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[16:56] <webPragmatist> woo
[16:56] <maco> obiwan_: if anything missed being written to it, too late now
[16:56] <obiwan_> but thats a mess maco because i end up with many letters
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  its 'sudo fdisk -l'
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> ionut: dude the navy has very expensive kit with highly trained professionals running it. Why are you asking in here at all. They KNOW how to handle data and security. You asking in here makes the IT look like idiots
[16:56] <maco> obiwan_: the reason to sync or click the "eject now" (or whateve rit says) button is to make it write the stuff before you yank the drive so you dont go to the next computer, plug in and be like "crap! my file's not here!"
[16:56] <ionut> drexl: not wanting to screw it lol
[16:56] <maco> obiwan_: many letters?
[16:57] <obiwan_> id like a stronger than umount -f command, that really forces the usb to be unleashed
[16:57] <Fjodor> Dr_Willis: There is some live-cd, the name of which I can't remember, that boots into a deletion program that conforms to military specs. It can even be configured to do so automatically for all disks in the system without prompting. I used to burn CDs with it, writing Windows Boot Disk on them and leaving them at various locations, to teach people about not booting ill-begotten CDs ;-)
[16:57] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis, that just shows my harddrive and swap files
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  below those lines it should eventually mention  a /dev/sdXX
[16:57] <obiwan_> yeah, like sda, sdb, sdc, sdd, sde...when in fact i have only sda and sdb
[16:57] <Fjodor> And now I'm off
[16:57] <syrinx> no offense, highly OT, but im sure ionut does NOT work for the Navy
[16:57] <ionut> ActionParsnip: is for my personal information...
[16:57] <needhelp1> maco, thanks :)
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  sounds like its not detecting it as a usb storage device.
[16:57] <lolcatz> ja, det tog sin tid fjord :P
[16:57] <maco> obiwan_: i think you need to just do it right going forward instead of just yanking if you dont want that to happen
[16:57] <Fjodor> lolcatz: Sorry - got caught up
[16:57] <lolcatz> ;)
[16:57] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis, I just have an sda1 sda2 and sda5
[16:58] <lolcatz> i can relax again now and compile kernekl ^^
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  sounds like its not detecting it as a usb storage device device.
[16:58] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis, yeah, it does anything I can do about that
[16:58] <ShadowDXS> well now i have to reinstall the OS
[16:59] <uXu> ActionParsnip - Its a waste of time ;-/
[16:59] <ShadowDXS> great
[16:59] <syrinx> why Shadow?
[16:59] <obiwan_> i dont yank maco , i do umount /dev/sdXY every time
[16:59] <craigbass1976> I've got a cell phone that can be charged on the computer via a usb dongle.  I'm wondering if I can use it as a thumb drive as well.  Anyone mounted a samsung and know the fs type?
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> arch_nme:  check google for your exact phone and linux. is this a 'smart' phone runnign android?
[16:59] <maco> obiwan_: and if you get an error? you just yank anyway? or resolve the error?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> ionut: i'd ask your IT. You can use the MoD tool on the ultimate boot CD to flip the bits 7 times each and will securely remove the data but even if its a 4Tb drive it's still only a few hundred so just destroy it
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:  my android phone works that way.. charges and shows up as 2 usb storage devices
[17:00] <obiwan_> if i get an error, i kick the computer, beat the screen, and yank xD
[17:00] <arch_nme> Dr_Willis, no it's a motorola zn300, already check google not much out there, the phone is runnign a linux OS, but not andriod or anything it's not a smart phone just a regular phone
[17:00] <maco> obiwan_: an error'd umount doesn't count
[17:00] <obiwan_> ok, ill try sync from now on
[17:00] <obiwan_> i nev er knew about that
[17:01] <paulgnanaraj> paul
[17:01] <maco> obiwan_: you still really should unmount though
[17:01] <maco> obiwan_: fuser -m /dev/sdXY
[17:01] <ionut> ActionParsnip: i think that is why every mouth new computers arrive here... thanks for the info...
[17:01] <maco> obiwan_: that'll tell you what's keeping it from umounting, then you can fix it and do the umount again
[17:01] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, mine isn't showing up though; I see it in lsusb, but not mount
[17:01] <maco> obiwan_: because sync will just make sure the drive & your data don't get broken. it wont make any difference to hwo your computer names subsequent drives
[17:01] <waza-ari> Hey all, im searching for a program to record video from a video4linux device. it should support getting the sound from pulseaudio or from jack directly. any ideas?
[17:02] <arch_nme> craigbass1976, you sound like you have the exact same problem I do
[17:02] <g_0_0> ionut are you some sort of assassin, a navy ninja equipped with personal data that can kill ?
[17:02] <obiwan_> maco: /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[17:02] <obiwan_> but then when i try umount -f /dev/sdb1 i get resource busy
[17:02] <craigbass1976> arch_nme, i'm wondering if there's a setting in the phone I need to turn on or off...
[17:02] <maco> obiwan_: is anything actually plugged in as sdb1?
[17:03] <maco> obiwan_: the fuser advice is a "for future reference" thing
[17:03] <obiwan_> no maco, nothinig
[17:03] <obiwan_> i yanked
[17:03] <obiwan_> after umount didnt work
[17:03] <arch_nme> craigbass1976, idk, have you ever had it working on any other OS?
[17:03] <craigbass1976> arch_nme, if I can make it work, there goes carrying an mp3 player and a thumb drive around with me
[17:03] <craigbass1976> arch_nme, nope.  I've got no other os
[17:03] <maco> obiwan_: ok then there's nothing to be done right now
[17:04] <maco> obiwan_: im just trying to tell  you how to *prevent* this in future
[17:04] <craigbass1976> arch_nme, going on I think six years now.  :)
[17:04] <obiwan_> ok , atl east i know theres nothing to be done. i always kept wondering , does an easy command i dont know exist to solve this out?
[17:04] <arch_nme> craigbass1976, I handed mine over to the guy next to me, he has win 7 I'm going to see what happens if he can mount it
[17:04] <obiwan_> ill try to prevent doing it again
[17:05] <maulana> @salam
[17:07] <shadow88> Go Linux ...Go
[17:08] <drexl> I hate windows..  When I shutdown Ubuntu it shows KILLING ALL REMAINING PROCESSES [fail].
[17:09] <Assid> i cant seem to click on the chat client.. however... if i click on the sound applet.. and mouse over the chat.. ti works
[17:09] <Assid> wait
[17:09] <Assid> it just fixed itsedlf
[17:10] <Assid> okay i cant seem to get network manager applet
[17:10] <asdfgh> Anybody?
[17:10] <Assid> that unfortunately hasnt come back on its own
[17:10]  * lolcatz goes wow wine is called nafisa now... wow!
[17:10] <maulana> any body have install ubuntu 2.6.35-22-generic
[17:10] <maulana>  (ubuntu 10.10) on lenovo g460 am have troble...
[17:11] <maulana> !help
[17:11] <shadow88> asdfgh: does it shut off for a after a min or so
[17:11] <lolcatz> asdfgh, when I get those it means I have been doing too much too fast with little backup.. :/ honestly.... I 'd cconsider a nice fresh install :)
[17:11] <shadow88> asdfgh: you can run "shutdown -h now "
[17:11] <Assid> can someone help me get network manage applet back?!
[17:11] <lolcatz> maulana, that is the default kernel on ubu 10.10 , of course peo[ple have it installed
[17:12] <asdfgh> No, it stays displaying this message for 10 seconds and shutsdown. But it is disturbing.
[17:12] <maulana> lolcatz, am have install on my new notebook heheheh lenovo with ubuntu 10.10
[17:12] <maulana> am hve troble on it
[17:13] <MrMintanet> What is the networking channel's title?  I can not find it.
[17:13] <maulana> !bot
[17:13] <rober744> hello
[17:13] <lolcatz> haaaah but it works asdfgh ? I get those sometimes on my ubuntu's as I start messin gmore and more with stuff but it only hangs a daemon.. it's a daemon which is miconfigured,
[17:13] <rany27> What is a good clipboard manager which is not GUI that you recommend me to use?Thanks.
[17:13] <shadow88> asdfgh: did that work for you ?
[17:13] <MrMintanet> What is the ubuntu networking channel's actual title?  Can someone link it?
[17:14] <drexl> Assid: you can trick it by adding a network status monitor to your bar and then right click on it a and change network monitor settings to nm-applet
[17:14] <asdfgh> Yes, it still shutdown correctly but with 10 seconds delay.
[17:14] <rany27> What is a good clipboard manager which is not GUI that you recommend me to use?Thanks.
[17:15] <lolcatz> maulana.. lefT?
[17:15] <hatchetjack> anyone recommend a info document reader in ubuntu?
[17:15] <asdfgh> shadow88: Wait, I will try it.
[17:15] <tclarke> might be off topic but I'm trying to generate an apt repo for ubuntu packages but the repo lives on a centos machie....anyone know how I can get apt-ftparchive for centos?
[17:16] <MrMintanet> Please help me.  All I need is a link to the ubuntu networking channel.  I do not see it listed in the channel browser...  Please?  Seriously.
[17:16] <miclsys> Hallo
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> hatchetjack:  i just use a text editor to read the silly .nfo files i find. :)
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> hatchetjack:  i think there might be one or 2 nfo specific tools in the repos.
[17:16] <drexl> Assid: the two programs get sweet on one another.
[17:17] <Assid> drexl, how do i get network status monitor
[17:17] <bmccomb> Trying to set up DHCP for a PXE netboot server. Running into an error however. The topline is my error, the bottom line is an ifconfig if that'll help anyone. http://paste.ubuntu.com/572237/  attempting to follow this guide. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[17:17] <ameno> #linux
[17:18] <syrinx> econds delay. [12:14] [syrinx(+i) (zZzZ)] [7:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt)] [Act: 3,8]
[17:18] <drexl> Assid: right click on your panel and add/remove panel items, I'm onlu assuming you're using lxde
[17:18] <syrinx> [#ubuntu]
[17:18] <Assid> i dont see network status monitor
[17:19] <drexl> it's a two phase process first add/remove panel items then click add again and scroll down
[17:19] <shane4ubuntu> I made a gpg ppa key and now I can't remember the passphrase (dumb I know) how do I access it to try a few that I think it is?
[17:20] <drexl> Assid: it's a two phase process first add/remove panel items then click  add again and scroll down
[17:20] <rany27> What is a good CLI clipboard manager that i can easily use with ctrl+c/v ?
[17:20] <syrinx> bmccomb: subnet looks wrong
[17:20] <craigbass1976> arch_nme, looks like I've got no memory card.  My wife got one, so I'll try her phone out when I get home If it works, I'll do one of those "middle of the night memory card burglaries" you keep seeing on the six o'clock news...
[17:20] <Assid> drexl, i dont see network status monitor in the list of widgets i can add
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> rany27:  You  mean a console clipboard manager?
[17:20] <asdfgh_> shadow88: It still display the same message
[17:21] <shane4ubuntu> is there a gpg command to get it to ask me for the passphrase?
[17:21] <asdfgh_> !help
[17:21] <shadow88> asdfgh_: okay, were you able to restart
[17:22] <Assid> drexl, whats it known as on the appplet list
[17:22] <asmy>
[17:22] <asmy> ,
[17:22] <asdfgh_> shadow88: Yes, restarting works but it is displaying this f****** message
[17:22] <drexl> Assid: network status monitor
[17:23] <Assid> not in the list :/
[17:23] <ikonia> asdfgh_: control the language !
[17:23] <webPragmatist> crap thats in like cron.hourly gets run as root:root ?
[17:23] <asdfgh_> sorry
[17:23] <drexl> Assid: you need to click the add button
[17:23] <Assid> add to panel ... rigth
[17:24] <Assid> its not in the list
[17:24] <drexl> Assid: hmm I don't then soory
[17:24] <Assid> its not available to me to add
[17:24] <asdfgh_> I messed with bum and maybe this is reason?
[17:25] <MrMintanet> Please help me.  All I need is a link to the ubuntu networking channel.  I do not see it listed in the channel browser...  Please?  Seriously.
[17:25] <Eugeny_> Anyone got a already-built x86 binary of BadSchemer? http://www.dabj01.co.cc/page4.php
[17:25] <terry> MrMintanet: What do you need to know?
[17:26] <MrMintanet> terry, Can you link the networking channel for ubuntu?  it isn't listed in my channels
[17:26] <nimrod10> how would you go by debugging a filesystem that turns read-only on errors ? There is nothing relevant in the /var/log logs
[17:26] <sysadm> hello, i have a weird sound problem, 1st time i am facing this, running ubuntu 10.10, dell latitude d430, sound works, but microphone doesnt {builtin}, it used to work, just one day reboot and it didnt work anymore, can someone help....
[17:26] <asmy> Does anybody have a default copy of /usr/include or know how to get one?
[17:27] <drexl> Assid: mabey you could re-install network manager gnome
[17:27] <sysadm> hello, i have a weird sound problem, 1st time i am facing this, running ubuntu 10.10, dell latitude d430, sound works, but microphone doesnt {builtin}, it used to work, just one day reboot and it didnt work anymore, can someone help....
[17:27] <terry> MrMintanet: I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about. Is it an IRC channel?
[17:27] <asmy> sysadm: hit the volume thing, click "sound preferences" then "input".
[17:28] <asmy> Make sure the volume is on.
[17:28] <sysadm> asmy, its blank, as if there si not input device
[17:28] <drexl> Assid: the package includes the applet I think
[17:28] <asdfgh_> MrMintanet: Here is the list of channels: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> Ive never noticed a ubuntu networking specicfic channel.. I would guess #ubuntu-networking
[17:29] <terry> MrMintanet: Here is a channel list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[17:29] <terry> asdfgh_: Sorry, just now saw your comment...
[17:29] <sysadm> it is
[17:29] <sysadm> asmy, it is
[17:29] <gsp2009> so today I launched evolution and it asked me to set up my account. This despite having been using evolution forever. I still have a .evolution folder in my userdir. Anyone know how to fix this?
[17:29] <ivanBliminse> Hello everyone how are you, i have a quick question about setting up a lamp server if anyone has a second..
[17:30] <sysadm> ivanBliminse, ask your questin directly
[17:30] <asdfgh_> terry: No problem!
[17:30] <bmccomb> Trying to set up DHCP for a PXE netboot server. Running into an error however. The topline is my error, the bottom line is an ifconfig if that'll help anyone. http://paste.ubuntu.com/572237/ attempting to follow this guide. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[17:30] <ivanBliminse> What is the command to install a lamp server.. sudo apt-get... ??
[17:30] <syrinx> bmccomb: already answered this, your subnet is wrong
[17:30] <bmccomb> syrinx: You answered me earlier, but I went afk. Sorry about that. What should my subnet be? I'm not very sure with what i'm doing.
[17:30] <syrinx> i BELIEVE it should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:30] <iceroot> ivanBliminse: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[17:30] <syrinx> could be wrong tho
[17:31] <bmccomb> Alright.
[17:31] <syrinx> try it and lemme know
[17:31] <syrinx> right now its set as your IP address
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> !lamp | ivanBliminse
[17:31] <bmccomb> Hurf, it is.
[17:31] <bmccomb> Yeah, let me chang eit.
[17:31] <asdfgh_> When I shutdown computer it displays Killing all remaining processes. It shutdowns normally but it delays it.
[17:32] <cahrlin> what do I have to setup to send mails from another SMTP server?
[17:32] <asdfgh_> Killing all remaining processes [fail]
[17:32] <webPragmatist> what's a good way to delete all files in a dir that are greater than a week old?
[17:32] <drexl> ivanBliminse: it's best to compile apache php5 and mysql from source
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> webPragmatist:  carefull use of 'find'
[17:32] <iceroot> webPragmatist: using find
[17:33] <llutz> webPragmatist: man find (-ctime/atime/mtime +7)
[17:33] <iceroot> drexl: please dont suggest such silly things here
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> i would say use find to move them to some other directory.. then remove them :)
[17:33] <syrinx> lol iceroot
[17:33] <iceroot> ivanBliminse: dont build the programs from source
[17:33] <cahrlin> what do I have to setup to send mails from another SMTP server?
[17:33] <MrMintanet> Is there an Ubuntu Networking channel?
[17:33] <syrinx> ivanBliminse, start off by installing apache2
[17:33] <drexl> iceroot: but the binaries scatter links all over the place
[17:33] <cahrlin> MrMintanet, join #ubuntu-networking-channel
[17:33] <iceroot> drexl: the ones from the repo will get security updates
[17:34] <iceroot> drexl: so your way is very stupid because you dont get security updates
[17:34] <drexl> iceroot: ahh..
[17:34] <brandon420> has anyone gotten pgp working on ubuntu 10.10?
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> 'links all over the place' how vague...
[17:34] <alsuna> cahrlin: which email client are you talking about?
[17:34] <sgo11> hi, If I mount -t ecryptfs /secret /secret manually, should I umount it manually before shutdown? or is that safe to shutdown without manual umount? thanks.
[17:34] <bmccomb> syrinx: That was it, I also had my netmask <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS> as well. :E Thanks, I miss such easy stuff sometimes
[17:34] <sgo11> hi, I used ecryptfs-manager to Add passphrase key to keyring. but the keyring lost after reboot. is this expected? (using ubuntu)
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> sgo11:  it should unmount it as part of a shutdown.. but you could unmount it by hand if you wanted
[17:34] <iceroot> sgo11: shutdown is unmounting such things
[17:35] <syrinx> bmccomb: i hear that, been years since ive done any subnetting
[17:35] <asdfgh_> When I shutdown computer it displays Killing all remaining processes [fail]. It shutdowns normally but it delays it. Can anyone help me?
[17:35] <drc> MrMintanet: as far as I know there is NOT a ubuntu specific networking channel (here or anywhere).  You might try ##networking (here on freenode) if no one can/will answer your questions in this channel
[17:35] <drexl> iceroot: I'm just used to xamp on windows and it's all the same when I compile from source
[17:35] <iceroot> asdfgh_: look at syslog what the problem is
[17:35] <LucyIntheSky> Using ubuntu 10.10 on a 37" HDTV, changed the DPI to 200 and everything looks great, only question how do I make new windows always open in full screen, so I don't have to resize them manually ( they open very small )
[17:35] <bmccomb> I'm just learning about it tbh. I'm only an intern here, but my boss left after 6 months.
[17:35] <iceroot> drexl: xamp is also stupid, use the real and standalone packages
[17:35] <ravigehlot> Hello everyone, we have a desktop server box that doesn't have a GUI interface. It's ultimately used only for web hosting. We need to write a service script in order to have it start at book-up time. Adding the service can be done by using a tool like rcconf. But how do we write this start-up script, any good links? thanks.
[17:35] <bmccomb> I've been *trying* to fill in for the past two months as we hire someone. Stressful as..well you get the idea.
[17:36] <sgo11> Dr_Willis, iceroot, thanks. that means I do not need to umount it manually. shutdown will take care of it. thanks.
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> LucyIntheSky:  theres tools in the repos that can do that.. as can compiz settiongs.
[17:36] <syrinx> bmccomb: no better way to learn, though
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> LucyIntheSky:  there used to be one called 'maximus' and another called 'devilspie' that may also do it.
[17:36] <syrinx> just dive right in
[17:36] <LucyIntheSky> Dr_Willis, ok I will try those because I don't use compiz
[17:36] <webPragmatist> llutz: got it thanks!
[17:36] <asmy> Can anybody help me? I need a new /usr/include because I've messed mine up.
[17:36] <MrMintanet> drc, Thank you!  That is what I was looking for.  Sounds silly, but I couldn't find it.
[17:36] <webPragmatist> find -ctime 7 -exec rm {} \; ?
[17:36] <webPragmatist> sound right
[17:37] <drexl> iceroot: I use the standalone packages in windows.. it's just that linux is setup similarily if you compile.
[17:37] <shadow88> WTF
[17:37] <drc> MrMintanet: np
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> webPragmatist:  i would make it 'mv' the files to some directory first.. so you can double check.
[17:37] <bmccomb> For sure.  Though I'm already having more problems. Great.  administrator@lkteencenter:~$ sudo cp -r /media/cdrom/install/netboot/* /var/lib/tftpboot/
[17:37] <bmccomb> cp: cannot stat `/media/cdrom/install/netboot/*': No such file or directory
[17:37] <llutz> webPragmatist: i'd add a -type f
[17:37] <iceroot> drexl: doesnt matter how it is setup. never compile a package if it is in the repos.
[17:37] <asmy> Can anybody help me? I need a new /usr/include because I've messed mine up. :-(
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> bmccomb:  you sure that path exists? not making a typo>
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> asmy:  i would think you would need to reinsdtll any packages that had files in that directory.
[17:38] <terry> asmy: What specifically do you need help with?  Did you delete evertying in that directory, or what?
[17:38] <sgo11> I was trying to mount the ecryptfs directory with a normal user. I edited fstab and use ecryptfs-manager to add passphrase key to keyring. then use mount -i /secret to mount it as normal user. everything works fine before reboot. After reboot, i think the keyring is lost. i didn't see it by keyctl list @u. is this expected?
[17:38] <iceroot> webPragmatist: i am not a find-pro but i guess with that command you will get problems with filenames containing spaces
[17:38] <LucyIntheSky> Dr_Willis, thanks, I think that maximus might be what I needed
[17:38] <iceroot> webPragmatist: if i am correct there was something like -print0 and so on
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> LucyIntheSky:  it can get annoying having 'everything' maxzmize. like file dialogs.
[17:39] <asdfgh_> iceroot: There is only this at the end of syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/572270/
[17:39] <asmy> terry, To be honest, I'm not exactly sure. I accidentally wrote over the file with a different one and now certain tools don't run properly, even if I recompile/install it.
[17:39] <LucyIntheSky> Dr_Willis, yea, nothing is ever perfect in life... but having to resize everything is annoying too. I can just move with alt+tab now if it gets too annoying I'll have to figure something else out. thanks for the help.
[17:39] <llutz> iceroot: not when using -exec    -print0 is needed when using xargs
[17:39] <iceroot> asdfgh_: sure you are using ubuntu?
[17:40] <terry> asmy: Which file?  (/usr/include is a directory).
[17:40] <iceroot> llutz: so exec is handling "foo bar.sh" correctly?
[17:40] <llutz> iceroot: iirc yes
[17:40] <terry> asmy: ls /usr/include    #To see what you have there.
[17:41] <webPragmatist> thanks again guys
[17:41] <drexl> fun with irssi /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[17:41] <llutz> iceroot: yes it does, "find . -type f -exec rm {} +"    deleted "test2" aswell as "test 2"
[17:41] <Brumagem> Why is it that I hear sound out of both my speakers and headphones after I plug my headphones into the audio jack?
[17:41] <asmy> terry, A good amount of stuff, I need the string.h file (I'm sure I can find it somewhere, I just have no idea where.)
[17:42] <asdfgh_> iceroot: Yes, I only pasted the fragment when I started to shutdown. lsb_release: Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 10.10 Release:	10.10 Codename:	maverick
[17:42] <iceroot> asmy: apt-file search string.h
[17:42] <PCdoc> Hi, Do i need to install an anti-virus for Ubuntu 10.10 ??
[17:42] <maco> asmy:  "dpkg -S /usr/include" says nvidia-settings, libstdc++6-4.4-dev, linux-libc-dev, base-files, python-dbus, python-imaging, python2.6, x11-apps, x11-common, xbitmaps, xserver-xorg-input-wacom, libc6-dev, gettext:
[17:43] <drexl> PCdoc: nope
[17:43] <sipior> PCdoc: not generally, no.
[17:43] <bmccomb> BSOD at a branch. I'll come back with questions later. Thanks again syrinx, and I think I had a brainfart on the CD path as well Dr_willis, I'll check and get back to someone here later. I'm sure I'll have problems still. :)
[17:43]  * puppet009 what?
[17:43] <Brumagem> I took ActionParsnip's advice and added the line snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad to alsa-base.conf file
[17:43] <asmy> Alright, thanks maco and iceroot.
[17:43] <iceroot> PCdoc: if you are not using samba or other daemoms for managing windows-clients, then you dont need it
[17:43] <maco> PCdoc: you can if you want to scan files before passing them on to windows users
[17:43] <asdfgh_> iceroot: There's nothing that can tell me something about this problem in syslog.
[17:43] <PCdoc> but i see on google that there are anti-viruses available for the debian linux!! what are they for?
[17:43] <drexl> PCdoc: ubuntu was created by nerds that don't allow virus'
[17:43] <iceroot> PCdoc: there are no public viruses for debian stable
[17:44] <puppet009> clamware
[17:44] <drexl> PCdoc: Nerds from around the globe
[17:44] <iceroot> PCdoc: and a virus-scanner for linux is normally if you are using samba,dansguardian or a mailserver to protect connected windows-clients
[17:44] <raven> hi
[17:45] <acidmind_bh> It was a great ideia this IRC Chat .
[17:45] <iceroot> asdfgh_: then its hard for us to help
[17:45] <raven> rhythmbox stops at 1379 files - connected to the media server via samba  - why?
[17:46] <PCdoc> Ok thanks ... :)
[17:46] <martin8412> Anybody knows if a precompiled linux kernel with the 'Mike Galbraith' scheduler patch exists for ubuntu 10.10? Have searched a bit, but didn't find anything for the newest kernel