[09:25] <redeeman> LasseL: smbclient works, but that is a standalone one, and smbfs is only for the kernel im quite certain
[09:25] <HappyFool> lea: this may sound extreme, but maybe a reinstall would be best. it sounds like something went wrong on your install. there were no error messages or anything?
[09:25] <X-Slayer> yeah
[09:25] <Rolo> nalioth: thanks mate!  That's exacly what I need :>
[09:25] <redeeman> LasseL: i dont really know debian, is there a way to find out what package your smbmnt and smbmount executables belongs to?
[09:26] <sven> sn9: what do you mean? I have M-Player installed and I have installed the quicktime libraries with Synaptic for reading quicktime file
[09:26] <sven> s
[09:26] <incompetence> redeeman: yes use apt-file
[09:26] <herdh> i cant rm /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/fglrx.ko
[09:26] <X-Slayer> yes
[09:26] <mario> hello
[09:26] <redeeman> LasseL: please use apt-file on smbmnt
[09:26] <kblin> Mineself: ok, good luck with that printer
[09:26] <LasseL> incompetence, no apt-file command
[09:26] <lea> HappyFool,  , its the first time i install it on this PC, but  its the 3rd one i do with this cd (its an 'official' one)    i had a same problem the last time though...so i think that the same thing would happen if i reinstall ;|
[09:26] <sn9> sven: there is a separate pkg called mozilla-mplayer that has the browser plugin
[09:26] <sven> ah, ok: thnx
[09:27] <incompetence> LasseL: apt-get install apt-file
[09:27] <HappyFool> redeeman: you can search for files on packages.ubuntu.com too
[09:27] <herdh> a do it many times under X and console and fglrx.ko always there is
[09:27] <incompetence> LasseL: apt-file update
[09:27] <HappyFool> lea: ok
[09:27] <mario> hallo
[09:27] <incompetence> LasseL: apt-file search whatewerfileyouwant
[09:27] <sven> sn9: synaptic says that it's allready installed
[09:27] <sven> but Opera still says that it's plugin content
[09:28] <LasseL> incompetence, redeeman, just a minute
[09:28] <redeeman> okay
[09:28] <cius> redeeman, I just did an apt-cache search on smbmount and it brought my install of smbfs
[09:28] <sn9> sven: can you list available plugins in opera at all?
[09:28] <sven> sure
[09:28] <sven> not too many thought: application/x-opera-nsplugin	-
[09:28] <sven> /usr/lib/opera/plugins/libnpp.so
[09:28] <HappyFool> lea: if you like i can put my /etc/sudoers file on the pastebin
[09:28] <mamoru> aaaaaaargh the linux is too difficult to me. I'm trying to rename the file with "rename BLABLA.CPP blabla.cpp" and it says "Bareword "BLABLA" not allowed while "strict-subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1". What does it mean? What is wrong?
[09:28] <HappyFool> lea: i'm pretty much out of ideas
[09:28] <redeeman> cius: oh, then smbfs also provides that apparently
[09:28] <InitMass> what does ** (process:11547): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[09:28] <InitMass>  mean?
[09:28] <sn9> sven: do you know what folder they're in?
[09:28] <HappyFool> mamoru: use 'mv', not rename
[09:28] <poningru> can someone tell me how to find the chipset of a wireless card?
[09:29] <Dav1> can anyone help me install gtk-gnutella
[09:29] <mamoru> HappyFool, thx, gonna try
[09:29] <HappyFool> mamoru: or use nautilus (the graphical file explorer)
[09:29] <poningru> its a
[09:29] <redeeman> cius: on kubuntu breezy i had to install smbmnt to get smbmount executable and be able to mount smbfs
[09:29] <poningru> Airnet AWN154 802.11G
[09:29] <brady__> why does lisp have such a small showing in breezy (i.e. almost all lisp resources are in universe)?
[09:29] <sven> yep
[09:29] <redeeman> it's abit strange ubuntu have overlapping packages
[09:29] <sven> synaptic can show me
[09:29] <cius> redeeman, yea, I tried that after doing a search in synaptic for both smbmnt and getting nothing, then doing smbmount and getting smbfs
[09:29] <mamoru> HappyFool, mv worked
[09:29] <Mineself> OK, I am trying to get the CUPS server running & I get this now Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running.
[09:29] <sn9> poningru: there's a table at linux-wlan.com
[09:30] <Mineself> Where do I go from here ?
[09:30] <lea> HappyFool,  could you show me what 'ALL=(ALL) ALL     '     you have in your sudoer file ?
[09:30] <HappyFool> lea: sure
[09:30] <sven> sn9:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug
[09:30] <sn9> Mineself: check to see that your loopback interface is up
[09:31] <InitMass> how do i edit the gnome menu?
[09:31] <scummbar> somebody can tell me how to enable in ubuntu that when you reciebe messages by the jabber, the icon in the taskbar makes an highlight as the style of windows messenger
[09:31] <sn9> sven: what folder does opera look for plugins in?
[09:31] <Mineself> sn9, ok.. where do I go to check that ?
[09:31] <Dav1> I beg some one to help me to install gtk-guntella
[09:31] <nalioth> Dav1: enable all your repos
[09:31] <sn9> Mineself: network-admin should show you
[09:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dav1 about sources
[09:31] <HappyFool> lea: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3252
[09:31] <lea> thx
[09:31] <sven> sn9: I think in here: /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[09:32] <phr0zenkore> Can somebody PLEASE help me with my Ati Radeon 9250 problem?
[09:32] <sn9> sven: make symlinks in there to the plugin
[09:32] <mamoru> hmmmm.... just wondering what are the files that end with '~' ?
[09:32] <herdh> i dont want be HappyFool, i back to slackware
[09:32] <Mineself> sn9 ok trying that
[09:32] <scummbar> somebody uses gaim?
[09:32] <nalioth> phr0zenkore: ask your question, theatrics are not necessary, as the users change in here often. they'd rather see a question then a dramatic plea for help
[09:33] <HappyFool> brady__: luck of the draw, i guess. i don't know what the criteria for main is, but i think the idea is to focus on a minimal selection of useful stuff
[09:33] <sven> sn9: I'm a n00b @ linux, I just started, books are coming so if isn't too much to type, can you give me a hint how to make symlinks?
[09:33] <sven> sn9: or can I copy some files to the plugin dir
[09:33] <nalioth> sven: open a terminal and type "man ln"
[09:33] <phr0zenkore> nalioth: thanks, finally someone responds (i had the idea they where all ignoring me), so i'll ask my questionm
[09:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sven about cli
[09:33] <sven> yeah, sorry
[09:33] <nalioth> sven: there is some reading material for you from ubotu
[09:33] <phr0zenkore> okay, i have an ATI Radeon 9250, and it has low fps rate, and DRI is not on, now my question is, how to fix that?
[09:33] <sven> ok
[09:34] <Mineself> sn9 Do I look under HOSTS?
[09:34] <rybarnes> Is ther any way to share files between 2 Operating Systems on one hard drive?
[09:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phr0zenkore about dri
[09:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rybarnes about mountwindows
[09:34] <herdh> phr0zenkore, there is no fix in ubuntu
[09:34] <phr0zenkore> .... i don't see anything
[09:34] <rybarnes> nalioth thanks.
[09:34] <scummbar> so, i don't find a way that I could know if anybody in gaim has telling me anything, a part from the sounds but the soud alarm it's ugly when you're listening music
[09:34] <HappyFool> !tell phr0zenkore about ati
[09:34] <sn9> sven: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplugin.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[09:34] <Dav1> ubuntu: please can you give me an idea of how tha hell i am supose to learn everything about linux
[09:34] <Mineself> sn9 e no reference to CUPS in there
[09:34] <herdh> phr0zenkore, install slackware, windows or mandriva 2006 or by nvidia
[09:35] <Remmelas> phr0zenkore, i can point you to what i did to fix if you want
[09:35] <sn9> Mineself: nono, the lo interface
[09:35] <HappyFool> herdh: you want to erase fglrx.ko ?
[09:35] <phr0zenkore> yay, thanks
[09:35] <Mineself> sn9 Um.... where do I go?
[09:35] <sn9> Mineself: it has to be active
[09:35] <phr0zenkore> does that work for Breezy too?
[09:35] <Remmelas> one sec, gotta grab the url
[09:35] <nalioth> phr0zenkore: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23906.html
[09:35] <Remmelas> i did it in breezy
[09:36] <sven> sn9: processed the command
[09:36] <eds01> is ubuntu good for a first time linux user?
[09:36] <Remmelas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MikeBedwell#head-8d46121407a74bb858ea1b24dba709930c581705
[09:36] <herdh> HappyFool, yes i want delete
[09:36] <sn9> Mineself: network-admin should show you lo, eth0, etc.
[09:36] <Mineself> sn9 I think I need some more specifics to follow you. I am pafully new here
[09:36] <Remmelas> phr0zenkore: i put the 2 steps on my wiki page so i could remember them.
[09:36] <Mineself> sn9 ok I saw the et0 listing the IP address
[09:36] <HappyFool> herdh: did you install it via the fglrx package?
[09:36] <lea> HappyFool,  i had the root by default, i did removed it, but  having it or no doesnt change anything in my problem...or so it seems.   i'm still searching..
[09:36] <mamoru> eds01, i think yes :)
[09:36] <nalioth> eds01: yes it is quite friendly
[09:36] <sn9> Mineself: what about lo ?
[09:37] <eds01> my school librarians millenium edition computers acting up, and i thought ubuntu might be a god repalcement
[09:37] <sven> sn9: I think I need to get the books first, I need to learn too much...
[09:37] <herdh> HappyFool, yes but there was not direct rendering
[09:37] <sn9> sven: relaunch opera
[09:37] <sven> sn9: did that but it still doesn't show in the plugins list
[09:37] <phr0zenkore> Remmelas: yea, but i forgot your name and the url
[09:37] <phr0zenkore> but i'm gonna reboot, k?
[09:37] <nalioth> eds01: check out edubuntu
[09:37] <herdh> and try many times rm /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/fglrx.ko and it always there is
[09:37] <Remmelas> k, if you need, i'll repaste when u come back
[09:37] <eds01> ok
[09:37] <HappyFool> herdh: you know what the package is? i have nvidia here, i can't check the details
[09:37] <phr0zenkore> okay, thnx
[09:37] <phr0zenkore> ^^
[09:38] <eds01> its her home machine though
[09:38] <Mineself> sn9 Under Network Settings I see the folloing
[09:38] <nalioth> eds01: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EduBuntu
[09:38] <sn9> sven: are you sure the path you typed for the .so file was the same as synaptic showed you?
[09:38] <eds01> i think ill lend her my knoppix cd so she can test out linux first
[09:38] <phr0zenkore> Remmelas: when i come in, say it's you XD
[09:38] <eds01> thanks
[09:38] <nalioth> eds01: then any of them would be good for her
[09:38] <Mineself> sn9: ::l     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[09:38] <herdh> HappyFool, i tomorrow buy nvidia
[09:38] <HappyFool> herdh: hmm
[09:38] <Mineself> sn9 It is Greek to me
[09:38] <sven> sn9: I copy/pasted it from there
[09:38] <LasseL> redeeman, back, you had to take care of the baby (and get a beer) :)
[09:38] <MenZa^> What's the livecd for?
[09:38] <HappyFool> herdh: odd, fglrx.ko is not owned by any package
[09:39] <redeeman> LasseL: cius already figured it out
[09:39] <HappyFool> nor is nvidia.ko *puzzlement*
[09:39] <redeeman> LasseL: it seems both smbmnt and smbfs package provides smbmnt and smbmount binaries
[09:39] <sn9> Mineself: in the main window there is an Activate button
[09:39] <HappyFool> herdh: have you read the ati page on the wiki?
[09:39] <LasseL> redeeman, what was the solution then
[09:39] <Mineself> sn9: That was under the HOSTS tab of Network Settings.
[09:39] <herdh> HappyFool,  is not owned but why cant rm it?
[09:39] <sven> sn9: it isn't as easy as in Windows? Placing a file in the plugins folder (probably not)
[09:39] <sn9> Mineself: not HOTSTS, the main tab
[09:39] <HappyFool> herdh: i don't know. Have you read the ati page on the wiki?
[09:39] <MenZa^> Does anyone know?
[09:39] <Mineself> sn9: yes I see it. It is faded out
[09:40] <MenZa^> What the livecd is for?
[09:40] <nalioth> MenZa^: to test compatibility, rescue botched windows systems, and demonstrate how easy linux is
[09:40] <MenZa^> Oh right
[09:40] <herdh> HappyFool, i read meny tutorials and ATI dont work
[09:40] <incompetence> anybody here using gkrellm with ubuntu 5.10-amd64
[09:40] <MenZa^> If I'm new to linux - is it recommended to download?
[09:40] <Mineself> sn9: I can't click it becaus eit is faded & disabled
[09:40] <sn9> Mineself: click the lo interface, and activate it
[09:40] <bobbyd> herdh, sell your ATI card and buy and Nvidia one
[09:41] <HappyFool> *sigh* yay for saturated dial-up connections
[09:41] <Mineself> sn9: I dont have LO listed . Only the sth0 internet connection and a moden conection listed
[09:41] <poningru> sn9: hmm I cant find the table
[09:41] <poningru> can you point me toward it?
[09:41] <phr0zenkore> alright, Remmelas
[09:41] <sn9> sven: look in synaptic again. you may have to scroll horizontally
[09:41] <phr0zenkore> DRI is on
[09:41] <phr0zenkore> still slow FPS
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> well, glxgears doesn't show me the fps, but X boots up slowly and glxgears is slow
[09:42] <Mineself> sn9: There is no  lo interface listed
[09:42] <Remmelas> glxinfo | grep -i dri gives output?
[09:42] <sn9> poningru: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[09:42] <HappyFool> phr0zenkore: try 'glxgears -printfps'
[09:42] <sven> sn9: what am I looking for, what kind of file
[09:42] <sn9> sven: .so
[09:42] <poningru> sn9: doh thanks
[09:42] <HappyFool> phr0zenkore: it looks like the glxgears author put in some sort of timing
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> 1123.516
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> wtf?
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> so it's normal?
[09:42] <phr0zenkore> yay! ^^
[09:42] <nalioth> phr0zenkore: you're cookin now
[09:43] <calamari> hi
[09:43] <phr0zenkore> i see, it works
[09:43] <phr0zenkore> wowie =)
[09:43] <sn9> Mineself: in that case type: sudo ifup lo
[09:43] <bliggy> hello... if anyone can help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=420642
[09:43] <phr0zenkore> the previous time i forgot loading the module
[09:43] <phr0zenkore> i didn't know i had to load it btw.
[09:44] <phr0zenkore> this fps rate is even better than the one at Debian! ^^
[09:44] <calamari> firefox has underscores everywhere for menus and webpages instead of letters.. how can I fix it?
[09:44] <Mineself> sn9: it says ifup: interface lo already configured
[09:44] <Heleborus> glxgears 12243 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2448.600 FPS radeon 9600xt
[09:44] <absenth> If I wanted an application to start whenever I log into Gnome, how would I go about doing that?  (Pointing me at a website is a perfectly acceptable solution btw)
[09:44] <lea> HappyFool,  I DID IT :)) ,  but i need a slap in the face for my error :      %Admin instead of %admin      in the sudoers.... arrrr
[09:44] <poningru> sn9: is that only cards supported under linux?
[09:44] <HappyFool> phr0zenkore: if you used 'nvidia-glx-config enable' the module be autoloadedon boot
[09:44] <calamari> absenth: sessions manager
[09:44] <HappyFool> lea: heh
[09:44] <poningru> or every card?
[09:44] <sn9> Mineself: ok. type: sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[09:44] <poningru> cause its not inthere
[09:44] <HappyFool> lea: gotta love computers ;)
[09:44] <sven> sn9: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so   /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-qt.so
[09:44] <sven> I think I got it
[09:44] <phr0zenkore> HappyFool: you mean ATI?
[09:44] <lea> indeed
[09:44] <crimsun> absenth: System> Preferences> Sessions> Startup Programs
[09:45] <sn9> poningru: it's everything
[09:45] <incompetence> absenth put it into the gnome-session
[09:45] <HappyFool> lea: it's still a little suspicious that it wasn't created during install
[09:45] <Mineself> sn9: OK I get * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                         [ ok ]
[09:45] <HappyFool> phr0zenkore: err, i thought you had nvidia, sorry
[09:45] <poningru> sn9: guess its too new thanks though
[09:45] <phr0zenkore> HappyFool: that's okay =)
[09:45] <lea> HappyFool,  yeah... just...weird... anyway, will get breezy now so :)
[09:45] <sven> sn9: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerpluginqt.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/   ??
[09:45] <absenth> calamari: crimsun, DANKE!  :)
[09:46] <anindya> does apt-get work for upgrading firefox !
[09:46] <Dav1> mp3 problem i think you have told me this once the error is shown as follows
[09:46] <Dav1> Totem could not play 'file:///home/meho/gtk-gnutella-downloads/complete/Metallica - One _Acoustic Live_.mp3'.
[09:46] <sven> sn9: or should it be mplayerplug-in-qt.so
[09:46] <anindya> I am trying that seems not working...
[09:46] <sn9> sven: with dashes
[09:46] <HappyFool> lea: cool. good luck
[09:46] <unperson> I'm trying to get a serial mouse working in Breezy.
[09:46] <crimsun> Dav1: if you're using totem-gstreamer, you need gstreamer0.8-mad installed
[09:46] <phr0zenkore> Dav1: i had the url of the guide for mp3's.. but i lost it
[09:46] <ProN00b> i got one screen on an nvidia and one on a older ati, how do i get 3d on the ati screen ?
[09:46] <phr0zenkore> install w32codecs
[09:46] <phr0zenkore> and totem-xine
[09:46] <Dav1> no worries
[09:46] <sn9> Dav1: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:47] <unperson> I see the issue discussed in the forums for warty, but it says to reconfigure xserver-xfree86.  What do I do with xorg in breezy?
[09:47] <calamari> firefox has underscores everywhere for menus and webpages instead of letters.. how can I fix it?
[09:47] <sn9> unperson: xserver-xorg
[09:47] <unperson> I tried dpkg-reconfiger xserver-xorg, but it never asked me anything about the mouse.
[09:48] <unperson> s/reconfiger/reconfigure/
[09:48] <sn9> unperson: it does ask
[09:48] <Mineself> sn9: ok, I can get into the config wizard now !! Do I call it a local printer ?
[09:48] <unperson> sn9:  I just did it.  It never asked.
[09:48] <phr0zenkore> anyways, thanks for the help
[09:48] <phr0zenkore> =D
[09:48] <phr0zenkore> so that's why it was slow on debian, i had to use fglrx..
[09:48] <sn9> Mineself: if it's usb, then yes
[09:48] <unperson> sn9:  Is it possible it's an issue of the settings for the priority of questions asked in dpkg/apt?
[09:49] <sn9> unperson: sure
[09:49] <mark_ramm> I am having a bit of trouble with a package that I can neither install or remove.
[09:49] <mark_ramm> if I try installing it I get: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/eclipse-ecj_3.1.1-1ubuntu3_all.deb: there is no script in the new version of the package - giving up
[09:49] <calamari> firefox has underscores everywhere for menus and webpages instead of letters.. how can I fix it?
[09:49] <MaTaKs> why i got this error when i try to do the command: $ make menuconfig    "tools/convconf.c:81: error: label at end of compound statement" help anyone?
[09:50] <sn9> mark_ramm: dpkg --purge eclipse-ecj
[09:50] <mamoru> one more question, please. I want to have OpenGL header files, howto?
[09:50] <mark_ramm> if I try removing it i get: E: eclipse-ecj: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:50] <sn9> mark_ramm: dpkg --purge eclipse-ecj
[09:50] <Mineself> sn9: ok now it wants the model of the printer. I Choose Samsung as MFR but dont have a listing for the CLP-510 Listed
[09:50] <sven> sn9: still doesn't work, I need to study linux first, thanks anyway!!
[09:51] <Zoohouse_> Hello everyone
[09:51] <unperson> sn9:  Do you recall how I change the level of questions asked?>
[09:51] <nalioth> mamoru: search in synaptic for "opengl" and install the -dev pkgs to match what you have already installed
[09:51] <mark_ramm> sn9:  when I do that I get: E: eclipse-ecj: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:51] <Mineself> Osn9: ok I found the driver but the printer is doing nothing when I tell it to print a test page
[09:51] <stimpie> how do I install mplayer on amd64?
[09:52] <Mineself> sn9: It tells me Test page successfully sent to printer. Wait until printing is complete, then click the OK button.
[09:52] <mamoru> nalioth, thx gonna try
[09:52] <nalioth> mark_ramm: open a terminal and type "dpkg --force-help"
[09:52] <Mineself> sn9: but the printer is still not responding
[09:52] <calamari> firefox has underscores everywhere for menus and webpages instead of letters.. how can I fix it?
[09:52] <sven> sn9: if you were paid on cent per question you would be a millionaire...  good job!
[09:52] <chrisbudden14> Hello.  Wifi-radar is not allowing me to edit the wireless profile of my network.  Is there a .conf type file i can go into?
[09:52] <bliggy> hello... if anyone can help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=420642  ... in a nutshell I need to figure out teh xx:xx:xx value that xserver-xorg needs to know the PCI data for my vid card
[09:52] <sn9> Mineself: is the queue named "colorlaser" ?
[09:53] <stimpie> bliggy, lspci
[09:53] <sn9> chrisbudden14: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:53] <bliggy> stimpie... i tried... teh vale comes back as0000:01:0b.0... xserver-xorg says its not a valid entry
[09:54] <Dav1> I am still confused about what i need to do to get my mp3s to play on ubuntu linux
[09:54] <sa> hallo
[09:54] <crimsun> Dav1: install gstreamer0.8-mad and totem-xine
[09:54] <chrisbudden14> sn9 is that specifically for wifi-radar?
[09:54] <mark_ramm> Thanks.   I tried sudo dkpg --force-remove-restreq eclipse-ecj
[09:54] <mamoru> nalioth, whoa there's a lot of results... Just wondering which one should i install; gonna try myself
[09:54] <crimsun> Dav1: that will cover just about all the cases
[09:54] <sn9> Dav1: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:54] <ichi> Help ! How can i turn of tool tips in Gnome ?
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> why doesn't ubotu work in private/
[09:55] <disasm> is oss emulation broken in breezy? i keep getting -bash: /dev/dsp: No such device as root when i try to cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> ?
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> !ati
[09:55] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:55] <mark_ramm> but I don't get anything then
[09:55] <sn9> chrisbudden14: it's general
[09:55] <crimsun> disasm: make sure snd-pcm-oss is loaded
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> !tell phr0zenkore about msn
[09:55] <nalioth> mamoru: usually you would install a -dev pkg to match what is on your system already
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> !tell phr0zenkore about gaim
[09:55] <disasm> however it does work for me on amd64 breezy
[09:55] <Mineself> sn9: I had an aborted attempt at loading a different printer That I had to delete. This time it let me name the printer as colorlaser
[09:55] <chrisbudden14> sn9 it seemes to be wrong, but im on the net
[09:55] <crimsun> disasm: erm, you just contradicted yourself :-)
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> .. oh, i'm not identified
[09:55] <phr0zenkore> lol
[09:55] <disasm> crimsun: yeah snd-pcm-oss and snd-pcm-mixer are both loaded
[09:56] <dmoyne> hello : what is the meaning of this message :
[09:56] <chrisbudden14> hey
[09:56] <vladuz976> anybody know what file i need to modify to change my computers name?
[09:56] <disasm> crimsun: sorry didnt clarify, its broken on my x86 breezy box
[09:56] <Mineself> sn9: still nothing to the printer when I tell it to print a test page though
[09:56] <dmoyne> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:56] <stimpie> bliggy, hmm I just read the forum, cant help you with that.
[09:56] <bliggy> stimpie... ok np... thanks man
[09:56] <crimsun> disasm: works fine on Breezy. cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:57] <Mineself> sn9: I see the prit test queued
[09:57] <sn9> Mineself: did you select the ppd file?
[09:57] <dmoyne> can we get 3D DRI with Breezy ?
[09:57] <Cryptid> I WANT TO MAKE A ENTRY OF K3b IN Application>Accessories> how do i do it?
[09:57] <sn9> dmoyne: yes, of course
[09:57] <crimsun> dmoyne: are you using an Nvidia card?
[09:57] <disasm> crimsun: alsa works fine, it's just oss... and it works fine with the old hoary kernel, wonder whats setup wrong
[09:58] <Mineself> sn9: yes I did
[09:58] <crimsun> disasm: waiting for your answer.
[09:58] <dmoyne> nope I have a 3dfx connected on a Samsung 19 " 930BF 1280 x 1024 !
[09:58] <sn9> Mineself: what did you set the device to?
[09:58] <spayne> is there any way to reinstall GRUB using the Ubuntu Install CD?
[09:58] <spayne> without reinstalling ubuntu
[09:58] <_JuDgEn_> roflcopter
[09:58] <crimsun> spayne: you can use the live cd if you wish.
[09:59] <nalioth> spayne: yes
[09:59] <akosh> hi
[09:59] <disasm> crimsun: 0 [V8235          ] : VIA8233 - VIA 8235   VIA 8235 with ALC650F at 0xdc00, irq 22   -  I also have a 2nd device which is my wintv card
[09:59] <dmoyne> when I do glxinfo I collect this :"Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:59] <dmoyne> Screen 0: not direct rendering capable.
[09:59] <dmoyne> "
[09:59] <specialbuddy> how do you find files with the new konquerer?
[09:59] <spayne> nalioth: how?
[09:59] <_JuDgEn_> how big linux related markertshare does ubuntu have nowdays
[09:59] <tr3vis> how do you get glxgears to show fps?
[09:59] <spayne> _JuDgEn_: offically around 1%
[09:59] <sn9> dmoyne: you're not loading dri
[10:00] <Cryptid> nalioth, I WANT TO MAKE A ENTRY OF K3b IN Application>Accessories> how do i do it?
[10:00] <crimsun> disasm: does aplay(1) work?
[10:00] <nalioth> spayne: start the install, as soon as you get past the language and keyboard thing, and can click "go back", go back
[10:00] <Mineself> sn9: how do I get back into the setup to find that out ?
[10:00] <sn9> Cryptid: use smeg
[10:00] <dmoyne> how do you make sure DRI is loaded !
[10:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Cryptid about smeg
[10:00] <mark_ramm> nalioth:  I tried the --force-remove-renstreq eclipse-ecj which seems to be the right command, but i get an error remove-renstreq is an unknown force option, am i doing something stupid?
[10:00] <sn9> Mineself: use the browser
[10:00] <spayne> nalioth: i select Install GRUB and it goes to paritioning
[10:00] <mamoru> hmmm
[10:00] <Cryptid> sn9, how to use it please tell
[10:00] <sn9> !smeg
[10:00] <ubotu> it has been said that smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default in Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[10:00] <nalioth> spayne: then idk
[10:01] <mamoru> redeeman, how do you know what header files you have?
[10:01] <specialbuddy> how do I find files with Konquerer?
[10:01] <dmoyne> glxgears is cahotic on display !
[10:01] <Mineself> sn9: I opened the IPP report for the printer& it tells me : Unable to open USB device "usb://Samsung/CLP-510": No such device
[10:01] <redeeman> mamoru: they are located in /usr/include
[10:01] <mamoru> redeeman, thx gonna see
[10:01] <sn9> Mineself: you set the device wrong
[10:01] <redeeman> np
[10:02] <Mineself> sn9: Doh !!! Where do I go to fix it ?
[10:02] <dmoyne>  sn9 : how do you make sure DRI is loaded ?
[10:02] <sn9> Mineself: why don't you just use gnome-printer?
[10:02] <specialbuddy> how do I find things on konquerer?
[10:02] <Mineself> sn9: I didnt know it was an option..
[10:03] <specialbuddy> the new Konquerer sucks
[10:03] <dmoyne>    sn9 : neither did I
[10:03] <Mineself> sn9: what should I have used for the correct device ?
[10:03] <sn9> dmoyne: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:04] <garba> good evening! anybody knows how to get rid of the diarreah-like background color i get when i log in before my theme is applied?
[10:04] <dmoyne> I went though this many times but it lead nowhere !
[10:04] <joe666> hi, what do I need to do to get an encryption option when right clicking a file in nautilus ?
[10:04] <Mineself> sn9: I think I am close to getting it working ! I DO appreciate your help & patience !
[10:04] <sn9> dmoyne: there is a screen in there where you select modules to load
[10:04] <Mineself> sn9: do I need to go into CUPS & configure something?
[10:05] <sn9> Mineself: not really
[10:05] <calamari> where is Run.... ?
[10:05] <calamari> it's no longer on my menu?
[10:05] <gean> hi world ! 2nd day of ubuntu, 1st day here..
[10:05] <dmoyne>  sn9: yes but DRI is selected
[10:05] <kashms> Alt-F2
[10:05] <sn9> dmoyne: which card?
[10:05] <Mineself> sn9: I'll delete the printer & run though the setup again to see where I went wrong
[10:05] <calamari> kasms: no effect
[10:05] <dmoyne> sn9 : 3Dfx Voodoo 3
[10:06] <sn9> kashms: that's kde
[10:06] <kashms> works on mine
[10:06] <shyru> hi!
[10:06] <kashms> using breezy gnome
[10:06] <shyru> somebody help me??
[10:06] <lea> i need my download to finish fast, can everybody upgrading to breezy jsut log off ?
[10:06] <lea> :P
[10:06] <sn9> dmoyne: and which video driver did you select?
[10:06] <calamari> can I put Run back on my menu.. that's a huge loss of functionality
[10:06] <redeeman> sn9: do you use ndiswrapper?
[10:06] <shyru> i have a problem with ubuntu
[10:06] <dmoyne>  sn9 : tdfx
[10:07] <johns^> calamari: alt-f2 works also
[10:07] <johns^> :)
[10:07] <sn9> redeeman: i'm on ppc
[10:07] <Mineself> sn9: when I get to local port selection I see there is Samsung SLP-510 listed under USB Printer#1. That is what I selected the last time
[10:07] <absenth> this qualifies as a dumb question, but how do I change the screen between the login and my desktop in gnome?
[10:07] <absenth> I assume that would be a gnome "splash screen":
[10:07] <calamari> johns^: alt-f2 doesn't do anything here
[10:07] <Dav1> how do i install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:07] <calamari> can I put Run back on my menu.. that's a huge loss of functionality
[10:07] <sn9> dmoyne: don't know then
[10:07] <johns^> ah strange. You use gnome?
[10:07] <frickel> shyru: whats wrong?
[10:07] <dmoyne> sn9 : when I do lsmod I have tdfxfb loaded
[10:08] <sn9> Dav1: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:08] <Dav1> ty
[10:08] <shyru> frickel, i can not logging on gnome
[10:08] <dmoyne> sn9 : thanks anyway
[10:09] <frickel> shyru: explain further
[10:09] <calamari> johns^: yeah, just upgraded to breezy.. I hate ubuntu upgrades, theny always make my system worse .. hehe
[10:09] <johns^> ah me2
[10:09] <Cryptid> sn9, what should the extension of a script file be ? is it .sh
[10:09] <crimsun> disasm: did you ever answer my question regarding aplay(1)?
[10:09] <sn9> dmoyne: one possibility i have encountered:
[10:09] <johns^> but I never missed the run command
[10:09] <sn9> Cryptid: whatever you like
[10:09] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to find a file?
[10:09] <shyru> frickel, after i have ubuntu hoary and no pronblen with gnome desk, then i update to breezy, ando i can not auth on gnome (gdm?)
[10:09] <johns^> specialbuddy: locate
[10:10] <rlynch> im trying to play a .wmv file through totem, and the video it shows is the same as when i play an mp3 through it (the patterns etc.)
[10:10] <specialbuddy> on konquerer?
[10:10] <magnusthe> specialbuddy, `find`or `slocate`
[10:10] <Cryptid> sn9, meaning > and how do i run those scripts
[10:10] <sn9> dmoyne: dri uses more VRAM. are you sure you have enough?
[10:10] <shyru> frickel, any idea?
[10:10] <specialbuddy> where is 'find' at in Konquerer?
[10:10] <johntramp> hey, I have only been using ubuntu a few days now, and I am wondering what the backports mirrors are about?  Have they been pulled offline because they were unofficial ?
[10:10] <johns^> calamari: do you want it in the menu? you could make alt-f2 work
[10:10] <frickel> shyru: did you peform a full upgrade?
[10:10] <nalioth> rlynch: modern wmvs will not play in linux
[10:10] <sn9> Cryptid: bash scriptname
[10:10] <calamari> johns^: sure, I'd love a run menu option
[10:10] <Mineself> sn9: what URL should I be using to define the printer post ?
[10:10] <crimsun> nalioth: the wmv9s?
[10:10] <nalioth> johns^: backports are programs that are ported back from the next version of ubuntu
[10:10] <Mineself> sn9: I mean port?
[10:11] <dmoyne> sn9 : you mean the ram on the graphic card ?
[10:11] <gean> any1 any idea, why k3b does not work properly on ubuntu ?! (ERROR: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[10:11] <batman> ok i'm trying to install airsnort and in the install file it says to do the following ./configure, make, make file but when i get to the make part it says that there isn't such a command
[10:11] <nalioth> crimsun: wmv3 doesnt play iirc
[10:11] <Mineself> sn9: It reads usb://Samsung/CLP-510 right now
[10:11] <shyru> frickel, yeah, i did type: apt-get update ;apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:11] <rlynch> nalioth: well none of the repositories have w32 codecs
[10:11] <sn9> nalioth: yes it does
[10:11] <crimsun> nalioth: hmm. I thought I had enabled support for that in ffmpeg.
[10:11] <ka24> plays fine here
[10:11] <johntramp> it seems there are a lot of important packages, mostly multimedia related, which are not on the official mirrors and should be on the backports mirrors according to what I have read on the forums
[10:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rlynch about w32codecs
[10:11] <mark_ramm> I tried removing the eclipse-ecj package with a standard remove, I tried re-installing it and then removing it.  Now, thanks to naliolth I tried: sudo dpkg --force all --purge eclipse-ecj
[10:11] <ka24> in fact, i've never come across a wmv that wouldnt play in linux/freebsd
[10:11] <mark_ramm> but I still get the same error about a post removal script every time
[10:11] <johntramp> nalioth, so why are all the mirrors offline?
[10:11] <specialbuddy> so I'm guessing that there is no find anymore in Konquerer?
[10:11] <sn9> crimsun: wmv3 can't use ffmpeg
[10:11] <crimsun> johntramp: the mirrors are online.
[10:12] <frickel> shyru: but you can log in as your normal user
[10:12] <ark_> Hey, I have a Senao Prism 2.5 SL2511 wireless PCMCIA card, but Breezy loads the orinoco modules. It would be much better if it loaded the hostap modules. Anyone know how I can make Breezy load the hostap modules instead?
[10:12] <nalioth> johntramp: the next version of ubuntu - dapper drake - has not begun development. hence, no backports
[10:12] <dmoyne> sn9 : my 3Dfx has 16 Mb SDRAM
[10:12] <johntramp> cribbon, oh, can you give me one for eg?
[10:12] <batman> ok i'm trying to install airsnort and in the install file it says to do the following ./configure, make, make file but when i get to the make part it says that there isn't such a command
[10:12] <magnusthe> ark_ have you tried putting the module to load in /etc/modules?
[10:12] <crimsun> johntramp: wiki/Archive
[10:12] <mark_ramm> but I still get the same error about a post removal script every time
[10:12] <nalioth> batman: install "build-essential"
[10:12] <Cryptid> sn9, please visit this page i have to run this script what do i do to get it running http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg
[10:13] <specialbuddy> where is find?
[10:13] <disasm> crimsun: yeah, aplay works, sorry, i'm wireless right now and lost connection to my server i have my irc client running on
[10:13] <ark_> magnus: I was going to... but should I remove orinoco from /etc/modules too?
[10:13] <magnusthe> ark_ if it's in there, then yes, remove it
[10:13] <johntramp> nalioth, ok, so where should I find amarok for example?
[10:13] <johntramp> nalioth, would that be in the backports if they were online?
[10:13] <ark_> ok thanks I'll try that :)
[10:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell johntramp about sources
[10:13] <batman> nalioth: it says too few arguments
[10:13] <gean> please give me some help about that toaster: k3b ! (the gnomebaker is also an alternative, i know, but i like k3b)
[10:14] <nalioth> johntramp: you need to enable all your ubuntu repos
[10:14] <sn9> Cryptid: i have no idea what you're trying to do; i don't know python
[10:14] <magnusthe> ark_ you can always comment out lines in /etc/modules (so you don't forget what was in there to begin with)
[10:14] <johntramp> nalioth, I know about sources, and I have enabled universe, but its not there
[10:14] <mark_ramm> Here's the results of my command to remove the package: $ sudo dpkg --force remove-reinstreq --purge eclipse-ecj
[10:14] <mark_ramm>  / (Reading database ... 89780 files and directories currently installed.)
[10:14] <mark_ramm> Removing eclipse-ecj ...
[10:14] <mark_ramm> /var/lib/dpkg/info/eclipse-ecj.postrm: line 5: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse: No such file or directory
[10:14] <mark_ramm> dpkg: error processing eclipse-ecj (--purge):
[10:14] <mark_ramm>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[10:14] <mark_ramm>  /Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:14] <rory> help
[10:14] <mark_ramm>  eclipse-ecj
[10:14] <nalioth> batman: if you've got 'build-essential' installed and are still getting that, then you'll need to read more closely the docs
[10:14] <rlynch> nalioth: so recent .wmv's won't play?
[10:14] <moogman> Hey, is there a way to edit id3 tags in Rhythmbox, with Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:14] <nalioth> mark_ramm: pasting will get you removed. it's very impolite
[10:14] <ark_> magnusthe: yeah I'll try it now :)
[10:14] <rory> help i cant install any thing
[10:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mark_ramm about paste
[10:15] <magnusthe> ark_ good luck!
[10:15] <sn9> Mineself: there should be something like /dev/usb/lp0 somewhere
[10:15] <bozel> hi
[10:15] <magnusthe> mark_ramm use a pastebin
[10:15] <johns^> rory: why not?
[10:15] <calamari> please can someone help me?  firefox does not shwo any letters.. what I had previously thought were underscores were actually the accelerator lines.
[10:15] <nalioth> johntramp: watch ubotu
[10:15] <nalioth> !info amarok
[10:15] <gean> rory, try that synap[tic in System -> Administration -> ..
[10:15] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5191 kB, Installed size: 13888 kB
[10:15] <disasm> calamari: upgrading to breezy?
[10:15] <absenth> is the screen between the login window, and your desktop (it's brown, says ubuntu, loads gnome icons) a gnome splash screen?  and if so, how do I replace the image with something less.....  brown?
[10:15] <calamari> disasm: yeah
[10:16] <bozel> i compile my c++ project, it says "cout" undeclared
[10:16] <bozel> whats the problem?
[10:16] <gean> please give me some help about that toaster: k3b ! (the gnomebaker is also an alternative, i know, but i like k3b)
[10:16] <GURT> absenth, i always wondered taht too
[10:16] <gean> any1 any idea, why k3b does not work properly on ubuntu ?! (ERROR: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[10:16] <disasm> calamari: i had the same problem, had a conflict upgrading with a package
[10:16] <disasm> calamari: try apt-get -f install
[10:16] <Dav1> the apt-get install code is not working for me can anyone give me more assistance i am in the root pannel
[10:16] <mamoru> h
[10:16] <bozel> i compile my c++ project, it says "cout" undeclared
[10:17] <bozel> whats the problem?
[10:17] <sn9> Dav1: what error?
[10:17] <mwe> bozel: you have using namespace std in there or std::cout ?
[10:17] <crimsun> disasm: what if you unload and reload snd-pcm-oss?
[10:17] <disasm> calamari: then once that succeeds do apt-get dist-upgrade againn and watch for the error where it crashes
[10:17] <bozel> ah ok
[10:17] <bozel> thx
[10:17] <magnusthe> bozel, use std::cout instead
[10:17] <bliggy> [spam]  if anyone can help me with my vid issue it would be greatly appreciated... all the data so far is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=420642 [/spam]
[10:17] <LasseL> bozel, I am sure there is a good c++ channel somewhere
[10:17] <ichi> Help ! How can i turn of tool tips in Gnome ?
[10:17] <bozel> thx
[10:17] <nalioth> Dav1: get out of the root terminal
[10:17] <bozel> its working now
[10:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dav1 about root
[10:17] <disasm> crimsun: same error, no such device
[10:17] <iceman64> what breezy command for apt get
[10:17] <KanRiNiN> hey, what's a good room to get help installing quakeforge in ubuntu?  I've downloaded all dependencies, but it still doesn't install correctly.
[10:17] <Dav1> no error i am trying to install a programme called gstreamer0.8-mad_0.8.8-2_amd64
[10:18] <crimsun> disasm: ls -l /dev/dsp*
[10:18] <disasm> iceman64: apt-get? teh commands the same
[10:18] <magnusthe> bozel, take a look at namespaces in C++, it's a nice useful thing :)
[10:18] <bozel> i programmed to much with winows
[10:18] <bozel> *windows
[10:18] <mamoru> is there any good editor for c/c++ ?
[10:18] <magnusthe> bozel, well, it's never too late to see the light
[10:18] <sn9> Dav1: either you get an error or it worked
[10:18] <nalioth> Dav1: use synaptic
[10:18] <bozel> ;)
[10:18] <magnusthe> mamoru, vim is the best editor, of course
[10:18] <disasm> crimsun: crw-rw----  1 root audio 14,  3 2005-10-17 09:27 /dev/dsp
[10:18] <nalioth> Dav1: make sure your repos are enabled
[10:18] <bozel> i use anjuta for c++
[10:19] <calamari> disasm: trying, thanks for your help
[10:19] <ptlo> mamoru, if you want something like visual studio ide, look at anjuta (or eclipse, which is java-based, but afaik can be used with c/c++ also)
[10:19] <cius> mamoru, use any text editor, the default gnome one highlights syntax for you
[10:19] <Dav1> i get that the package was not found
[10:19] <ark_> magnusthe:/etc/modules only contains lp, mousedev and psmouse.  I will!
[10:21] <TheDiff> can someone confirm for me that the prismstumbler package is broken
[10:21] <disasm> crimsun: as root nothing, as user mythtv cdrom floppy audio video
[10:21] <nalioth> iceman64: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:21] <magnusthe> ark_ if it doesn
[10:21] <crimsun> disasm: which tv tuner module are you using?
[10:21] <disasm> calamari: any error?
[10:21] <sn9> iceman64: pkg name is kubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <disasm> crimsun: hauppaug wintv go
[10:21] <calamari> disasm: nope
[10:21] <[A] ndy80> hi
[10:21] <magnusthe> ark_ if it doesn't work you'll probably need to "blacklist" the orinoco module
[10:21] <crimsun> disasm: which is what kernel module?
[10:22] <samu> Out with ubuntu, in with windows...
[10:22] <netstar> iceman64, as far as looks goes, I can get my gnome desktop looking much smoother and  more polished than any KDE desktop, which always seems to have a feel of plastic to it (and not from the use of the similarly named theme.)
[10:22] <Mineself> sn9: Nothing like thatsn9: it sayst that lp0 does not correspond with a detected port but it does show the Samsung CLP-510 attached to the USB Printer#1 position
[10:22] <disasm> crimsun: bt878
[10:22] <absenth> where did ubuntu breezy hide the gnome configuration tool?
[10:22] <netstar> system tools
[10:22] <sn9> Mineself: you shouldnt use /dev/lp0
[10:22] <crimsun> disasm: ah, that's why.
[10:22] <mamoru> gentlemen, how to apt-get a package from universe?
[10:22] <calamari> disasm: however I do the the following: The following packages have been kept back:
[10:22] <calamari>   gnome-app-install libgda2-common libopenal0 python-imaging
[10:22] <calamari>   python-imaging-sane python2.4-id3lib python2.4-musicbrainz rhythmbox yelp
[10:22] <crimsun> disasm: bt878 takes over /dev/dsp
[10:22] <ark_> Ok, blacklist is an ida. :) ...also, do I add hostap and hostap_cs to /etc/modules or are the more 'submodules' to be loaded?
[10:22] <nalioth> absenth: install gtweakui
[10:23] <crimsun> disasm: unload it and snd-pcm-oss, then reload snd-pcm-oss
[10:23] <ark_> or maybe just 'hostap'?
[10:23] <absenth> ok I really am almost completely stupid, thanks netstar
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> mamoru: enable unoverse in synaptic
[10:23] <TheDiff> :'(
[10:23] <magnusthe> ark_ I believe dependencies will be loaded automagically (like modprobe)
[10:23] <[A] ndy80> I've this in /etc/exports on a server: /home <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>(rw)       I try to mount that dir with this command, from another pc: mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/home /home/andy80/provanfs/ but I get this error: mount: <IP_ADDRESS>:/home failed, reason given by server: Permission denied. How can I fix this?
[10:23] <iceman64> i like the configuration ability, look and feel on kde ... never have taken to gnome ... and been using linux since red hat 5.3
[10:23] <Mineself> sn9: I can't use that. Its not even an option listed
[10:23] <mamoru> bluefrog-10, is that the only possible way?
[10:23] <ark_> ok, so I guess only "hostap" would suffice then.
[10:24] <sn9> Mineself: you said lp0 not a detected port
[10:24] <icewt> i get no sound when using kaffeine-xine. anyone know what could be wrong?
[10:24] <netstar> [A] ndy80, make sure the server and client both support the NFS version you are using in the kernel.
[10:24] <bluefrog-10> mamoru: uncomment the line by hand if u prefer
[10:24] <ark_> Done. Should I reboot?
[10:24] <Mineself> sn9: when I choos ethe Samsung CLP-510 & hit the test button, nothing happes. Could it be the USB Hub I am using is messing with it?
[10:24] <netstar> [A] ndy80, this is a common cause of this problem.
[10:24] <jeff303> is there any way to run fsck to check for bad blocks from ubuntu, before partitions are mounted, so I don't have to use another LiveCD to do it?
[10:24] <sn9> Mineself: yes
[10:24] <[A] ndy80> netstar: how can I check this? Here I've an Ubuntu Breezy (PC), server is a Debian testing
[10:25] <netstar> check /proc/config.gz
[10:25] <Mineself> sn9: let me disconnect it & try again
[10:25] <magnusthe> ark_ depends, you only modified /etc/modules, right? then you need to reboot to try it... you can always remove the orinoco module
[10:25] <mamoru> bluefrog-10, there was some cool command line
[10:25] <absenth> ok, that's scary
[10:25] <absenth> Gnome has a registry......
[10:25] <ark_> Right!
[10:25] <sn9> jeff303: fsck doesn't check for bad blocks
[10:25] <ark_> brb
[10:25] <netstar> any ppc users here?
[10:25] <jeff303> sn9:  hmm well I'm pretty sure I used e2fsck before to do it
[10:25] <bluefrog-10> mamoru: sysnaptic has some cool gui
[10:25] <Mineself> sn9: Opps, I already had done that. It prints fine ffrom the Win2k boot on the machine so I know tha hardware is all working
[10:25] <disasm> crimsun: i think i got all the bttv modules removed: http://irc.gentux.org:8000/lsmod.txt
[10:25] <nalioth> netstar: yes many of us
[10:25] <sn9> jeff303: no, that's like chkdisk & scandisk
[10:26] <netstar> nalioth, what system spec do you have?
[10:26] <mamoru> bluefrog-10, :) but still command-line rules
[10:26] <nalioth> netstar: i have several macs running ubuntu
[10:26] <LasseL> bluefrog-10, no, synaptic has a gui :)
[10:26] <sn9> netstar: ppc here
[10:26] <netstar> any ppc nvidia users?
[10:26] <nalioth> netstar: yes many of us
[10:26] <crimsun> disasm: modprobe -r bt878?
[10:26] <sn9> netstar: ati here
[10:26] <mwe> jeff303: look into " man badblocks" maybe
[10:26] <bluefrog-10> mamoru: then do it your way, i don't mind
[10:26] <fmasi> where can i find the unoficial breezy gide or a rep list containing all rep ?
[10:26] <samu> I can't install ubuntu on my laptop. The install gets messed up towards the end.
[10:27] <netstar> nalioth, do you know any tricks to get the most out of my machine without high CPU loads in X?
[10:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fmasi about sources
[10:27] <jeff303> sn9: ok you're right, looks like you use e2fsck in tandem with badblocks
[10:27] <nalioth> netstar: what machine is that?
[10:27] <sn9> !tell fmasi about repos
[10:27] <moogman> Hey, is there a way to edit id3 tags in Rhythmbox, with Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:27] <jeff303> mwe: is there some way to have that execute before moutning anything?
[10:27] <netstar> nalioth, ppc64 with nvidia card.  It's an imac
[10:27] <sn9> jeff303: that's silly
[10:27] <mamoru> bluefrog-10, thank you for your effort, i really appreciate it! I just wanted to know the command-line syntax as well
[10:27] <fmasi> thx
[10:27] <nalioth> netstar: you have a g5 imac running ubuntu?
[10:27] <jeff303> sn9: what do you mean?
[10:27] <netstar> sure do
[10:27] <disasm> crimsun: yeah, i did that, and the snd module associated with it, bttv, and snd-pcm-oss then modprobe snd-pcm-oss then cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp and same error
[10:27] <netstar> with fan control :P
[10:28] <nalioth> netstar: join ##apple please i want to pick your brains
[10:28] <Mineself> sn9: I think I see what might be causing the problem.... I coppied the linuxprint.cfg file from that webpage but it lists the CLP-500 printer driver in it. I am guessing I need to change that to the same driver name as the 510 driver I am using.
[10:28] <crimsun> disasm: which dxs_support module are you using?
[10:28] <sn9> jeff303: badblocks everytime you mount will take forever
[10:28] <crimsun> disasm: s/module/value/
[10:28] <jeff303> sn9:  I know, I just want to do it once
[10:28] <jeff303> sn9: I was just wondering if I could do it without a livecd
[10:28] <mwe> jeff303: well the partition containing the badblocks program must be mounted unless you use a live cd
[10:28] <jeff303> mwe:  good point, heh
[10:29] <sn9> jeff303: you can do it on an installed system
[10:29] <iceman_64> shoot
[10:29] <shyru> hey guys!! please help me!!!
[10:29] <Thomaschaaf> i have a compaq R3000 and how do I get my WiFi to run?
[10:29] <SuperTails92> shyru: What is it?
[10:29] <marcin_ant> hi all
[10:29] <sn9> Thomaschaaf: do you know the chipset?
[10:29] <shyru> on X (gnome) i can not type anything!! but on terminal i can do it!
[10:29] <iceman_64> anyone have ungodly patients, willing to help config a ubuntu install
[10:29] <marcin_ant> my friend has a problem with ubuntu breezy
[10:30] <Thomaschaaf> no I dont
[10:30] <marcin_ant> he has laptop with dvd combo drive
[10:30] <magnusthe> ark_ any luck?
[10:30] <InitMass> how does one open udp port 6881 in firestarter?
[10:30] <marcin_ant> and ubuntu says 'No URI handler implemented for "dvd://"'
[10:30] <bluefrog-10> initmass: add policy
[10:30] <SuperTails92> shyru: Can you type into the login prompt in GDM?
[10:30] <Mineself> sn9: it lists the print driver file as  <printer ppd="ppd/C/CLP-500splc.ppd" queue="colorlaser">
[10:30] <ark_> I rebooted but according to dmesg the card was still taken by orinoco..
[10:30] <marcin_ant> when trying to play some dvd movie
[10:30] <marcin_ant> could someone help me with this?
[10:30] <shyru> SuperTails92, yep
[10:31] <bluefrog-10> thomasschaaf: u sure ur card was not recognised?
[10:31] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, i can't see anything about udp there
[10:31] <shyru> SuperTails92, i can not type anything into the login promt in GDM
[10:31] <magnusthe> ark_ then you need to look into blacklisting orinoco, hotplug is a good place to do it (I think)
[10:31] <iceman_64> Anyone able to help me config a install .. "newb here"
[10:31] <ark_> Also, when I do lsmod, I only see hostap being loaded (no hostap_cs or anything)..
[10:31] <bluefrog-10> initmass: add policy and choose bittorrent
[10:31] <iceman_64> how to mount my ntfs harddrive
[10:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell iceman_64 about ntfs
[10:32] <magnusthe> ark_ then add the other modules to /etc/modules as well
[10:32] <ark_> I'll try blacklisting (thanks for your help!!).
[10:32] <ark_> Ok.
[10:32] <shyru> SuperTails92, this problem appear went i update from 5.04 to 5.10
[10:32] <shyru> :S
[10:32] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, doesn't seems like azureus are coming through anyway
[10:32] <disasm> crimsun: thanks, i got it, removed all sound modules, and ran modprobe snd-via82xx and it works now
[10:32] <magnusthe> ark_ it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out
[10:32] <magnusthe> ark_ good luck
[10:32] <sn9> Thomaschaaf: broadcom. you need ndiswrapper
[10:32] <bluefrog-10> initmass: does it go through without firestarter?
[10:32] <ark_> magnusthe: Do uo know where this hotplug file is located>
[10:32] <disasm> crimsun: how can i blacklist the bttv sound so it wont happen on reboot?
[10:32] <astronut> !mplayer
[10:32] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:33] <shyru> On 5.04 everything that's ok. On 5.10 i have this problem :S
[10:33] <mirak> why doesn't gnome partition manager doesn't write mounted partitions into fstab ????
[10:33] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, "...If you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 6881 UDP open. Descentralised tracking requires this."
[10:33] <magnusthe> ark_ /etc/hotplug is the place to look
[10:33] <crimsun> disasm: append it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[10:33] <joachim_> jeppie jei jo bro
[10:33] <ark_> Ok, again thanks for your time =)
[10:33] <iceman_64> any why cant ubuntu make this easy ... jeez ...
[10:33] <l1quid> i'm using the livecd to get some data off of an old harddrive with an ext3 partition, but i need a way to ignore file permissions, is there a way to do that?
[10:33] <magnusthe> ark_ my please... good luck
[10:33] <shyru> SuperTails92, any idea?
[10:33] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, not sure
[10:33] <bluefrog-10> initmass: that's why i ask if it does go through without firestarter?
[10:34] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, hehe ok
[10:34] <bluefrog-10> initmass: stop firestarter
[10:34] <sbartleylinux> Is anyone successfully running xdm on breezy?
[10:34] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, done
[10:34] <bluefrog-10> initmass: u connect from home?
[10:34] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, i'll wait for some minutes and see
[10:34] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, yes
[10:34] <shyru> sbartleylinux, the question is for me?
[10:34] <sbartleylinux> shyru, question is for anyone.
[10:35] <bluefrog-10> initmass: how do u connect to the internet?
[10:35] <nightswim> is it possible on 5.10 to tell gnome that I want to drag windows with the top off my screen?
[10:35] <shyru> sbartleylinux, ok, i have a similar error :S
[10:35] <nightswim> so that the titlebar and such arent visible
[10:35] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, just via adsl modem
[10:35] <shyru> sbartleylinux, i can not type on gmd into the logging :S
[10:35] <bluefrog-10> initmass: simple modem or modem router?
[10:35] <sbartleylinux> trying to figure out why xdm will not start a display/login.  just goes back to prompt.  gdm/kdm work fine.  xdm on breezy fails.
[10:36] <calamari> please can someone help me?  firefox does not show any letters.. what I had previously thought were underscores were actually the accelerator lines.
[10:36] <sbartleylinux> Did full breezy install, then installed xdm and chose xdm as default dm but wont go to gui login.
[10:36] <nalioth> damned bots
[10:36] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, simple modem
[10:36] <topyli> whoa! penguintv seems really awesome. anybody know any free software related podcasts and such? :)
[10:36] <calamari> I have tried asking for help in ubuntuforums.org but links is not able to keep me logged in so I cannot post
[10:36] <shyru> oo k!!
[10:36] <calamari> I have tried asking for help in ubuntuforums.org but links is not able to keep me logged in so I cannot post
[10:36] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, now it actually seems to be coming through :)
[10:37] <iceman_64> one reason i have never taken to linux ... god setting command line shit up ...
[10:37] <bluefrog-10> initmass: then just ad the right policy in firestarter
[10:37] <calamari> sorry for the repeat
[10:37] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, but how should i make it go through even when using a firewall? i have the right policy
[10:38] <bluefrog-10> initmass: when u had the policy u have to apply it if u haven't changed anything in firestarter pref
[10:38] <DShepherd> why is a password, by default, set to access the net via dialup
[10:38] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, "allow service (BitTorrent), Port (6881-6889), For (everyone)
[10:39] <bluefrog-10> initmass: clicked on button apply?
[10:39] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, done. second try now
[10:39] <DShepherd> why is a password, by default, set to access the net via dialup. I dont think it should. But you guys are brilliant so you must have a reason for it. What is that reason?
[10:39] <iceman_64> anyone here a configuration god ... because trying to just grasp this "command line" from a start i beyond me ...
[10:39] <bluefrog-10> initmass: anything in the event window?
[10:40] <alican> Hi..
[10:40] <bluefrog-10> ieman: what's ur problem?
[10:40] <alican> is there bash complation in ubuntu
[10:40] <bluefrog-10> iceman: what's ur problem?
[10:40] <calamari> please help.. this is what my firefox looks like: http://kidsquid.com/breezy_firefox_bug.png
[10:40] <bobbyd> iceman64, there is a GUI for setting up new mounts
[10:41] <bobbyd> iceman64, are you using 5.10?
[10:41] <sbartleylinux> It seems that xdm is not accessing the /etc/X11/xdm directory config files at all.  It is starting or at least trying to start but the echo statments I put into the config files are never getting accessed.  Anyone with any ideas on where to start troubleshooting?
[10:41] <iceman_64> want to mount a windows partition "ntfs" copy diablo II from there, and get it configed in wine
[10:41] <nalioth> iceman_64: ubotu sent you a URL on how to mount your ntfs
[10:41] <bluefrog-10> iceman_64: u need to change /etc/fstab
[10:42] <bobbyd> sbartleylinux, have you checked the X log?
[10:42] <iceman_64> nalioth i got the url ...but how this all works .. i am lost ..
[10:42] <sbartleylinux> bobbyd, yes.
[10:42] <bobbyd> sbartleylinux, and the syslog :)
[10:42] <sbartleylinux> nothing that gives indication of problem that i can find.
[10:43] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, yes on event
[10:43] <bobbyd> sbartleylinux, I've got to go, sorry
[10:43] <sbartleylinux> np
[10:43] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, SSDP service
[10:43] <nalioth> iceman_64: open the winmac_fstab and follow it's instructions. you can have it open in a text editor while you work with it in a terminal
[10:44] <bluefrog-10> initmass:but no 6881 so it's working now no?
[10:44] <misfit_toy> holy muthah!! finally after hours of doinking with xorg.conf I have my 20" TV running thru tv-out in glorious 1024x768 fullscreen WITH it's own desktop too, and my laptop in 1400x1050 with IT's own desktop, this is killer stuff.
[10:44] <shale> anyone use ubuntu with a dell and a docking station?
[10:44] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: do you mean xdm starts and awaits user input, or do you mean it starts but seems to exit?
[10:44] <DShepherd> why is a password, by default, set to access the net via dialup. I dont think it should. But you guys are brilliant so you must have a reason for it. What is that reason?
[10:45] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, starts but runs in background.  never gives login and just drops back to text environment.  ps -ef shows process still running but nothing else.
[10:45] <vader1102> Hello, I am running a Dell Latitude CPi with nm2200 magic grapgh graphics, the sound is good but I would like to get better than 800x600 any ideas?
[10:45] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, the tracker can be slow occasionally
[10:45] <vader1102> and I am using Breezy
[10:45] <astronut> i'm helping a friend and the upgrade from hoary -> breezy wants to remove amarok and some mesa stuff...why?
[10:45] <InitMass> bluefrog-10, in other words, i'm still waiting
[10:45] <shale> vader1102, did you install the fglrx stuff?
[10:46] <SuperTails92> DShepherd: you wouldn't want someone accessing your computer when you get a coffee break and making long distance calls
[10:46] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, if I set default to gdm, works fine.  only when set to xdm does it do this.
[10:46] <vader1102> shale, I have no clue, this is off a fresh install, best guess no
[10:46] <ptlo> DShepherd, the technical answer: to initiate connection one must have superuser privileges, and to get these privileges you have to specify the password. my guess at the non-technical answer: so there's no c hance you do it by accident, unknowingly, and get a huge net bill :)
[10:46] <shale> vader1102, go to the ubuntu forums and search for fglrx
[10:46] <vader1102> ty
[10:47] <bluefrog-10> initmass: it's always slow for me whatever i do. if u're still waiting while it'running when u stop firestarter it means u have to fiddle around with the policie again. sry my firestarter is on another box.
[10:47] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: sounds like a missing lib. What do the log files tell you?
[10:47] <DShepherd> SuperTails92: ptlo, SuperTails92. Thanks guys...makes sense to me.
[10:48] <bluefrog-10> iceman_64: have u seen want i sent u in priate window?
[10:48] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, any pointer on which log file I should focus on?
[10:48] <sbartleylinux> I have not found any indicator errors in ~/.xsession-errors, or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:49] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: auth.log?
[10:49] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: daemon.log?
[10:49] <mamoru> just one more question, please
[10:49] <marsh> hi all.
[10:50] <marsh> and I also have a question...
[10:50] <gusto5> hello everyone.
[10:50] <gusto5> anyone familar with pppd configurations?
[10:50] <marsh> My system rexently would not start up :(, came up with a grub error 15.
[10:50] <mamoru> how to compile a script which uses opengl? the linker says undefined reference to ''gClearColor'
[10:50] <gusto5> i have a ppp0 and a ppp1 and they contradict each other. i cant remove one from network settings
[10:50] <SuperTails92> gusto5: try using wvdial
[10:51] <lymz> ping?
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: stupid question: is xdm vital for u r it's for the fun of researching how things work?
[10:51] <marsh> I have now installed another, and am trying to mount the disk, but reports that wrong fstype missing codepage or other...
[10:51] <gusto5> SuperTails92, out of curiosity is there another way to setup a dsl connection other than pppoeconf?
[10:52] <marsh> dmesg | tail reports that EXT3-fs: error loading journal :
[10:52] <marsh> anyone know whats going on here?
[10:52] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, it is vital.
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: for ltsp?
[10:52] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, we are trying to avoid the overhead of gdm/kdm on a ltsp system which will be on livecd/dvd.  small footprint as possible.
[10:52] <iceman_64> cant seem to edit fstab in a text edit .. help
[10:53] <nicram> marsh: you should be able to mount as plain ext2
[10:53] <nicram> marsh: mount -t ext2 /dev/[whatever]
[10:53] <marsh> nicram - thanks, I;'ll give it a go
[10:54] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: cause i just setup ltsp with no xdm running. but now indeed i don't know if things are better with xdm
[10:54] <nicram> marsh: ext3 is ext2 with journalling so is backward compatible.
[10:54] <vader1102> shale, no go
[10:54] <marsh> nicram - no joy :(
[10:54] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, which dm did you use?
[10:54] <nicram> marsh: dmesg ?
[10:54] <iceman_64> how to edit fstab ... text editor wont let me
[10:54] <sobersabre> guys anybody know if intel celeron mobile CPUs will be supported by speedstep in linux ?
[10:55] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: gdm with XDMCP enable=true in gdm.conf
[10:55] <Juhaz> anyone using ipw2200 and breezy?
[10:55] <nicram> marsh: could you be experiencing hardware disk failure ?
[10:55] <sobersabre> Juhaz I do
[10:55] <mwe> Juhaz: yeah me too
[10:55] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, neither of those logs show anything that would indicate a problem to me.
[10:55] <kashms> iceman: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:55] <vader1102> shale, when I search fglrx it gives me an Italian redirect
[10:55] <sobersabre> Juhaz: actually, right now ...
[10:55] <marsh> have exactly the same error. dmesg says [xxx.xxx]  EXT3-fs: error loading journal
[10:55] <Juhaz> sobersabre, mwe noticed any instability or other weirdness? the stupid thing keeps throwing kernel panics at me
[10:55] <Validdot> Can some say how to use vice, the c64 emulator?
[10:55] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, yes.  We have been able to get it working with gdm as well.  just dont want the overhead of the gnome libraries etc.... that comes with that.
[10:55] <sobersabre> mine works...
[10:55] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xdm ?
[10:55] <thenuke> Validdot: read the docs?
[10:55] <marsh> nicram, theres a vfat partition on there too - i can get to that...
[10:56] <nicram> marsh : are you explicitly telling it to mount ext2, ie mount -t ext2 /dev/hda3 /mnt/testing
[10:56] <sobersabre> maybe it throws panics to my kernel, but my kernel ignores them ;)
[10:56] <shale> vader1102, did you search the ubuntuforums.org site?
[10:56] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, yes.
[10:56] <marsh> nicram, yes...
[10:56] <mwe> Juhaz: well sometimes the connection silently dies. I then have to bring the interface down and back up
[10:56] <vader1102> shale, I am on there now and yes
[10:56] <Jedrick> need help i got this error when installing ncurses.. "  checking for gcc... /opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc.. checking whether the C compiler (/opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc  ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables."   Anyone know any other steps I can take?
[10:57] <nicram> marsh: have you tried a file system check - e2fsck /dev/hda4[or whatever]
[10:57] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, np. thx anyway.
[10:57] <sobersabre> Juhaz: My connection is stable... have you installed ipw2200 from source or used the one with breezy ?
[10:57] <shale> vader1102, do you have an ati card?
[10:57] <st1lgar> is there a way to globally enable tear-off menus ?
[10:57] <gusto5> hello again folks
[10:57] <Juhaz> sobersabre, the bundled one
[10:57] <vader1102> it is Neo Magic
[10:58] <marsh> the harddrive should be pretty reliable... no - i havent (see that's what i like about coming in here - i can move forward ;)
[10:58] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: u might help me though. what kernel do u have in /var/lib/tftpboot?
[10:58] <Jedrick> need help i got this error when installing ncurses.. "  checking for gcc... /opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc.. checking whether the C compiler (/opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc  ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables." why is that?
[10:58] <marsh> am running the check now... (thanks nicram
[10:59] <Juhaz> mwe, I could live with that but it insists on crashing the entire machine. sigh
[10:59] <iceman_64> bluefrog-10 how important is the spacing in that line
[10:59] <marsh> nicram, superblock corrupt - yes to fix - check forced - i'm on me way... (cross yr fingers!!)
[10:59] <nicram> marsh: may have to run it with -p flag : -p     Automatically repair ("preen") the file system without any ques-tions. (see man e2fsck)
[11:00] <sobersabre> Juhaz: have you found anything suspicious in the syslog ?
[11:00] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, I actually repointed tftpboot to /tftpboot instead of /var/lib but to answer your question, it is the 2.4.26-ltsp-3/pxelinux.0
[11:00] <nicram> marsh: Normally ext3 is very reliable, you must have done a bad bad thing ;-)
[11:00] <marsh> nicram, what are illegal blocks? they bad ones?
[11:00] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: k ty
[11:01] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, when last I spoke with jim from ltsp, the 2.6 kernel did not yet work correctly and he suggested using the 2.4.
[11:01] <marsh> nicram, did nothing! only played mp3's, shut down & restarted.
[11:01] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: is ltsp or ubuntu doing the detection?
[11:01] <mwe> Juhaz: doesn't the syslog indicate what could be the problem?
[11:01] <Jedrick> need help i got this error when installing ncurses.. "  checking for gcc... /opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc.. checking whether the C compiler (/opt/gcc-3.3/bin/gcc  ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables." why is that?
[11:01] <Juhaz> doesn't seem to be able to save anything to logs before dying
[11:01] <sobersabre> marsh: maybe you have power outages and spikes, and no UPS, so this can kill a harddisk like nothing....
[11:01] <vader1102> shale, I am gone for a smoke, bbiab
[11:01] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, what do you mean by detection?
[11:01] <nightswim> did you install build-essential
[11:01] <sbartleylinux> kernel selection?
[11:02] <Jedrick> help anyone
[11:02] <sobersabre> Juhaz: disable the module and look into the logs :)
[11:02] <sobersabre> Juhaz: boot with the live CD, and don't enable wireless.
[11:02] <absenth> does anyone here know how to change the color of the background behind the splash screen image?
[11:02] <marsh> nicram, have surge protection (& the light is on saying it's working) - are illegal blocks damaged/bad blocks?
[11:02] <mwe> Juhaz: when does it happen? when the module loads?
[11:02] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: xorg detection i guess. X_CONFIGURE = Ubuntu
[11:03] <SlicerDicer-> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key .... umm no?
[11:03] <nicram> marsh: no illegal blocks are file system related issues, not bad blocks.
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: in lts.conf
[11:03] <nalioth> SlicerDicer-: it's a common error we've been seeing since breezy released. you can disregard it
[11:03] <Juhaz> mwe, when the network becomes associated, if I don't have the other end responding, it won't die.
[11:03] <vader1102> back
[11:03] <nicram> marsh: caused by fs corruption, http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=e2fsck%20illegal%20blocks&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
[11:03] <SlicerDicer-> nalioth, ok
[11:04] <nicram> marsh: looks like you have to clear them.
[11:04] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, my lts.conf just leaves it as XSERVER = auto
[11:04] <nicram> marsh: although you can try mount the filesystem now that the superblock has been fixed.
[11:04] <marsh> well, nicram,  i seem to have quite a few of them :( - cleared 5 inodes & now i'm getting loads of 'multiply-claimed blocks hammering up my term!!
[11:05] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, any other ideas?
[11:05] <wolki> hi!
[11:05] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, or any idea of who might have the knowledge needed?
[11:05] <Juhaz> okay, let's see... doesn't really write anything to logs, but I suppose I can switch to text console and crash it there
[11:06] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: not off the top of my head. You could ask daniels, but he might be busy.
[11:06] <marsh> nicram, yeah, could this be me being hacked/trojan'd?
[11:06] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, k. thx.
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: i changed it to X_CONFIGURE = Ubuntu but still throw me to low vesa while edubuntu recognises the good card. but i think that comes from the kernel in fact and this is too big a thing for to recompile
[11:06] <nicram> marsh: it is possible, but why would you think that - do you have doggy processes running ?
[11:06] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, beyond my knowledge.  you might ask on #ltsp.  I am sure they could answer.
[11:07] <nicram> marsh: more like really bad timing in the reboot - if this is on an external (USB) device then there may be a bug with the Kernl USB code..
[11:07] <marsh> not that i know of... standard install - only really use it for music
[11:07] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, daniels or danielg?
[11:07] <Doclotus> I'm trying to install 5.10 on a VMware session and no xwindows components seem to be installing. Can anyone suggest where I start to troubleshoot this?
[11:07] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, dont see a daniels on here.
[11:07] <bluefrog-10> sbartleylinux: gonna try edubuntu
[11:07] <sbartleylinux> bluefrog-10, cool. thx again.
[11:08] <disasm> crimsun: well i got down to the heart of the issue, it was em8300 which was stepping on /dev/dsp. No big deal because I don't even use my dxr3 card since I got a tvout, so I blacklisted it, and I'll pull the card out when I have time.
[11:08] <crimsun> sbartleylinux: so he's asleep/busy atm
[11:08] <marsh> nah - it's internal... think i was doing something with the disk at reboot time - and have been getting into the habit of hitting the power button to force shutdown too...
[11:08] <sbartleylinux> crimsun, k. thx.
[11:08] <Juhaz> nothing a layman would understand. ernel BUG at <bad filename>:2793!, invalid operand: 0000 [#1] , list of loaded modules, normal kernel panic info (registers, stack, call trace...), kernel panic, not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt
[11:08] <marsh> bad marsh :(
[11:08] <Erick> kernel panic sure sucks
[11:08] <marsh> you reckon that's probably it...?
[11:09] <wolki> i have a problem with installing ubuntu on another computer... it crashes when installing grub. does someone have an idea?
[11:09] <nicram> marsh: I guess you're just gonna have to continue with the cleanup...
[11:09] <Erick> wolki did you get an error?
[11:09] <Erick> *do
[11:09] <nicram> marsh: good luck ... and be nice to your filesystem.....
[11:10] <Erick> lol
[11:10] <marsh> nicram, ya know it ;) - thanks fr help (and patience listening to my rambling)
[11:10] <iceman64> ok ... i know kdesktop downloaded ..
[11:10] <Erick> cool
[11:10] <iceman64> now how to make in available in sessions
[11:10] <marsh> I'll get cleanin'
[11:11] <Erick> iceman64 if you have gdm, it will added it automaticly
[11:11] <Robi> crimsun, ok quick Q, updated to breezy, got a nice mail about mdadm and to zero out the superblock.. but I don't recall using md devices. there a way to check? lsof doesn't seem to work..
[11:11] <Ninjew> Is there a reason why none of my vts are running getty, or is something very wrong?
[11:11] <lamp_> is it wise to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com
[11:11] <iceman64> not in the sessions list .. just loged out .. and back in ... not listed
[11:11] <wolki> Erick no, it just crashes
[11:11] <Erick> then iceman64 just added it to .xsessions
[11:12] <crimsun> Robi: RAIDed?
[11:12] <topyli> Ninjew: your ttys are blank? mine too :)
[11:12] <Ninjew> topyli: Yeah
[11:12] <Robi> crimsun , may be, but not using md, afaik
[11:12] <sunshine> quick question does breezy take rpm deb or tar files
[11:12] <topyli> Ninjew: my gettys are running though, i just get no visual
[11:12] <Erick> sunshine both
[11:12] <Doclotus> I've tried installing 5.04 and 5.10 on a Thinkpad T41 and in both cases I can't get gnome or any xwindows component to load. ANy suggestions?
[11:12] <bluefrog-10> iceman64:restart gdm
[11:12] <Erick> you can convert rpm to a deb with alien
[11:12] <iceman64> complete reboot ..
[11:13] <crimsun> Robi: you can ignore it if it's not relevant
[11:13] <bluefrog-10> iceman64: ctrl alt return
[11:13] <wolki> and reboots... it|s quite likelz the computer is broken... windows will only start in failsafe. i can run livecds (it seems... have an old warty running right now)
[11:13] <Ninjew> topyli: For me, none of my gettys are running either
[11:13] <bluefrog-10> iceman64: not reboot
[11:13] <iceman64> brb
[11:13] <iceman64> loged out .. loged back in ... not listed in sessions
[11:13] <Erick> just reboot the X iceman64 sudo /etc/intid./gdm restart;
[11:13] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with setting up printing through GNOME using a printre connected directly to a windows box & shared via SMB?
[11:13] <mamoru> help please. What should I link to make the rand() work?
[11:14] <Erick> mamoru c?
[11:14] <Robi> crimsun, and i don't know how to check if md0,1,2 are being used, since i got some other msgs about it.. like "A DegradedArray event had been detected on md device /dev/md1.
[11:14] <nicram> topyli: maybe someone took the terminal stuff out of you inittab file
[11:14] <sunshine> erick but how im tryin to download a file but when i extraxt say a deb file i go to terminal and sudo dpkg -i and it come up unknow file or cant find file
[11:14] <iceman64> loged out .. loged in .. not listed in sessions list
[11:14] <sunshine> erick it the same when i download a tar file
[11:14] <RMeist> hi
[11:14] <topyli> nicram: hmm. i'll take a look at it
[11:14] <Erick> sunshine then do this sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:15] <nicram> topyli: should have shome lines that look like : 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[11:15] <cowbud> is there an ubuntu ppc support channel?
[11:15] <Erick> !ppc
[11:15] <ubotu> hmm... ppc is PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer then Intel.
[11:15] <RMeist> *, which package do I need for this*:* error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2:
[11:16] <sobersabre> Juhaz: have you installed ipw2200 module by yourself or is it the vanilla one shipped with breezy ?!
[11:16] <iceman64> how the heck to get kda listed in sessions options
[11:16] <topyli> nicram: yep, they're there
[11:16] <Erick> Rudemeister do sudo apt-cache search libstdc
[11:16] <nicram> topyli: once you edit that /etc/inittab file you can just do a kill -HUP 1 or kill -1 1 (which tells init to reload itself)
[11:16] <sobersabre> cowbud: what's the question ?
[11:16] <mamoru> Erick, yes, c
[11:16] <Juhaz> sobersabre, it's vanilla, straight out of the box
[11:16] <Erick> iceman64 do this sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart;
[11:16] <Erick> mamoru link it to main()
[11:16] <cowbud> sobersabre: I have a Wallstreet 2 and it won't boot to the livecd
[11:16] <Doclotus> Is there a way to tell what packages apt has installed, or failed on install?
[11:16] <nicram> topyli: so pressing ctrl-alt F1-F5 gets you nothing ?
[11:16] <mamoru> Erick, ? how
[11:16] <sobersabre> Juhaz: maybe you should use the one from the ipw2200.sf.net site...
[11:16] <Erick> Doclotus sudo apt-get -f install
[11:17] <PegUbuntu> re
[11:17] <Erick> mamoru ask on #c dude
[11:17] <sobersabre> BAD FILENAME looks like it doesn't have firmware
[11:17] <PegUbuntu> re les gars
[11:17] <mamoru> Erick, thx
[11:17] <crimsun> Robi: you probably need to use mdadm with Query/Detail/Examine
[11:17] <Erick> np
[11:17] <PegUbuntu> l'adresse IRC tait enregistr dans Xchat
[11:17] <iceman64> iceman@ubuntu:~$ sudo /ect/init.d/gdm restart:
[11:17] <iceman64> sudo: /ect/init.d/gdm: command not found
[11:17] <iceman64> iceman@ubuntu:~$
[11:17] <topyli> nicram: no, my monitor goes to sleep
[11:17] <Rudemeister> Erick: I'll try again, tnx
[11:17] <sobersabre> Juhaz: do you have the firmware ?!
[11:17] <crimsun> Robi: I'm not a RAID user, but a guy in our LUG might be able to help you
[11:17] <Erick> iceman64 do you have gdm installed?
[11:17] <Erick> Rudemeister np
[11:17] <Ninjew> running getty manually fixes it for me, but for some reason init never started it
[11:17] <Juhaz> sobersabre, can't hurt to try, I suppose... it could hardly be any worse
[11:17] <topyli> nicram: so there's no video there i guess
[11:17] <crimsun> Robi: (Mithrndir, tell him I referred you)
[11:17] <Ninjew> oh i see, init hung on "setting up console font"
[11:17] <iceman64> dont know ... how to find out
[11:18] <bluefrog-10> iceman64: mind the typo...
[11:18] <Erick> iceman64 do this sudo apt-get install gdm
[11:18] <crimsun> Robi: (but let me ping him first)
[11:18] <sunshine> erick it say build essential is already the newest version what does that do
[11:18] <Erick> i don't think is installed
[11:18] <topyli> nicram: i see the boot messages (i don't use usplash) but once gdm starts, they're gone
[11:18] <nicram> topyli: wierd, could be that you're running a console mode that is too high for your monitor - especially if you're using framebuffer driver.
[11:18] <Erick> sunshine you already have the software installed,
[11:18] <iceman64> iceman@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gdm
[11:18] <iceman64> Reading package lists... Done
[11:18] <iceman64> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:18] <iceman64> gdm is already the newest version.
[11:18] <iceman64> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:18] <iceman64> iceman@ubuntu:~$
[11:18] <Erick> bla
[11:18] <jrattner1> Whats the deal with bluetooth and gnome, or is bluetooth only in KDE
[11:18] <Erick> iceman64 do not pasted you're gonna get kicked out
[11:18] <Seveas> iceman64, NEVER do that again
[11:19] <sunshine> erick im trying to install another file skype
[11:19] <Erick> only in kde jrattner1
[11:19] <jrattner1> Erick, seriously?
[11:19] <Erick> yeah
[11:19] <iceman64> sorry ...
[11:19] <nicram> topyli: could also be some wierd X server stuff, no handling you graphics card properly.
[11:19] <Robi> crimsun, ya he may know me ;]
[11:19] <topyli> nicram: already took the vga option off from menu.lst and am getting the nice, big, ugly standard kernels
[11:19] <Erick> iceman64 do this sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart;
[11:19] <nicram> topyli: have you tried to go into single user mode to test.. ?
[11:19] <Erick> it should worked
[11:19] <iceman64> so i take it gdm is already installed
[11:19] <topyli> kernel messages
[11:19] <markybob> when trying to apt-get update, i'm getting a gpg error saying the signature is invalid for http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy.  thoughts?
[11:19] <paco_reyes> hi, excuse me, are there backporta repositories for breezy?
[11:19] <crimsun> Robi: you know David?
[11:19] <Erick> !tell paco_reyes about backports
[11:20] <erisco> does breezy have support for shockwave player? and better support for flash? if it does i am upgrading asap
[11:20] <nalioth> markybob: common error since breezy, disregard. it will sort itself
[11:20] <cowbud> sobersabre: I have a Wallstreet 2 and it won't boot to the livecd
[11:20] <topyli> nicram: no, but i think it's X that manages to mess it up anyway
[11:20] <Seveas> paco_reyes, no.
[11:20] <Erick> Erick swfplayer i believed
[11:20] <nalioth> cowbud: is that old world?
[11:20] <nicram> topyli: by typing init [single user mode - check which it is by looking a inittab file]
[11:20] <Robi> crimsun, he may remember me, dont know if we've met, but the nick sounds v.famliar
[11:20] <markybob> nalioth, that doesnt help me since i cant install the packages i need because of this error.
[11:20] <Erick> erisco swfplayer i believed
[11:20] <cowbud> nalioth: I thought only a wallstreet 1 was oldworld.
[11:20] <cowbud> nalioth: if it is what can I do nothing?
[11:20] <paco_reyes> ok
[11:20] <Erick> frontier try asking
[11:20] <nalioth> markybob: the error has nothing to do with installing, you can install whatever you like
[11:20] <crimsun> Robi: (not Mithrandir from Debian & Ubuntu)
[11:20] <cowbud> ahh I found the wiki
[11:21] <frontier> Erick I have been for two days, no one has yet replied
[11:21] <topyli> nicram: no can do, i have a wife working on the windows client. gotta have the network. :) i'll try that later though
[11:21] <nalioth> cowbud: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[11:21] <Erick> ask one more time
[11:21] <Robi> crimsun , you're probably right..
[11:21] <nicram> topyli: which ubunut release are you using ?
[11:21] <iceman64> did that .. killed any session options crap
[11:21] <Robi> crimsun , so should i ping him yet or will he?
[11:21] <topyli> nicram: breezy
[11:21] <j0nas`> question re: apt... say i want to install two ftp servers, when i select the second one, i'm told i have to remove the first one...
[11:21] <markybob> nalioth, you're right and wrong at the same time.  it lets me install things as they were in my last apt-get update.  however, since then, some files have moved (the ones i need to installed).  so i need to apt-get update before i can install them, or else apt doesnt know where to get them.
[11:21] <Erick> iceman64 are you running gdm? kdm
[11:21] <j0nas`> can you override this?
[11:21] <crimsun> Robi: I pinged him, but he's probably leaving work. (He works for RH.)
[11:22] <iceman64> currently in gnome
[11:22] <Erick> then you're using gdm?
[11:22] <erisco> ping, what a funny word now that i think of it
[11:22] <Robi> crimsun , gothca, ya it's that time over there
[11:22] <nalioth> cowbud: sorry wrong buffer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[11:22] <topyli> nicram: weird thing is, i have the same hardware that's worked fine for 5 years. i built this box especially as a linux box
[11:22] <iceman64> did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop .. that finished ..
[11:22] <cocox> hi
[11:22] <Erick> hi cocox
[11:22] <Ninjew> I solved my getty problem
[11:22] <Robi> crimsun , well i think i figured out that I am indeed using md0,1,2
[11:22] <cowbud> nalioth: qemu? what do I want to do with that?
[11:22] <nalioth> markybob: the gpg error thing is just to tell you about it, it still updates
[11:22] <cowbud> ahh
[11:22] <cocox> hi erick
[11:22] <cowbud> nalioth: ahh
[11:22] <erisco> how the heck do they get the word ping for sending packets of information to some destination to see if you can communicate and at what speed
[11:22] <Doclotus> I *think* I finally got gnome to install, what is the syntax to start it?
[11:22] <cowbud> nalioth: yah thanks!
[11:22] <Erick> Doclotus gdm
[11:22] <iceman64> now after that last command .. i have no session options ... just a command shell
[11:23] <Robi> crimsun, so i'll try zeroing out teh superblock like it says..  it's a MUST acording to debconf
[11:23] <nalioth> cowbud: just glad it wasnt the pR0n buffer, eh?
[11:23] <cocox> can anybody plz help me y want to install the apt app
[11:23] <Doclotus> It said only root wants to run gdm
[11:23] <crimsun> Robi: k
[11:23] <iceman64> kind of got me toasted ...
[11:23] <Erick> cocox you don't have apt? on ubuntu?
[11:23] <nalioth> cocox: the apt app is most likely on your box already
[11:23] <Erick> Doclotus yeah run it as root
[11:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cocox about apt-get
[11:23] <cocox> really ?
[11:23] <topyli> nicram: i tried usplash a while back but removed it. i blame usplash :)
[11:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cocox about synaptic
[11:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cocox about repos
[11:23] <cocox> uh ??
[11:23] <nalioth> cocox: you have priv msgs
[11:23] <Ninjew> erisco: sonar ping
[11:23] <frontier> any idea's why under ubuntu breezy I can't get an upstream higher than 31Kbps when under windows I get 231Kbps?
[11:23] <topyli> nicram: can't say when i first looked at a console after that, so cannot be sure
[11:24] <marsh> nicram - sorry to trouble you again, but my fs now has only a lost+found dir - and nothing in it :(... that mean i lost everything?
[11:24] <Jedrick> where can i download ncurses for ubuntu?
[11:24] <nicram> topyli: that may be a reason, it was trying to put the console into some obscene setting.
[11:24] <Doclotus> How do I run gdm as root? Sudo?
[11:24] <Erick> sudo gdm
[11:24] <MachineScrew> who here is an ubuntu developer ?
[11:24] <topyli> nicram: yeah
[11:24] <cocox> ohhh i c thnx
[11:24] <Erick> MachineScrew go to #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[11:24] <cocox> i'll read this articles
[11:25] <iceman64> toasted my boot manager ... help ... no sessions options ... just a pure text enviorment ...
[11:25] <Jedrick> where can i download ncurses for ubuntu?
[11:25] <MachineScrew> I just had a sugestion
[11:25] <Jedrick> anyone?
[11:25] <Erick> Jedrick do apt-cache search ncurses
[11:25] <nicram> topyli: you should be able to specify the vga mode at book, ie append a kernel option vga=ask (or vga=7 - for some standard vga mode)
[11:25] <nalioth> Jedrick: use synaptic (they should already be there, tho)
[11:25] <Erick> or apt-get install libncurses-dev
[11:25] <topyli> nicram: anyway, i was thinking i won't bother too much. i'm thinking about repartitioning and reinstalling once i get more hard disk space. this installation is a mess anyway
[11:25] <Erick> that's the ncurses packaged
[11:25] <topyli> nicram: that's a possibility
[11:26] <marsh> topyli, Ah know that feelin'!
[11:26] <topyli> nicram: i might find something that works
[11:26] <MachineScrew> but in regards to that sugestion how do I make a USB HD ext3 filesystem writeable in Nautilus
[11:26] <topyli> marsh: upgrades, software experiments, fiddling... :)
[11:26] <nicram> marsh: if the rest of the fs is empty then you're very much out of luck and the whole bang shoot got corrupted, chances of that happening seem remote to me... but quantumn mechanics allows for all things.... :-(
[11:26] <iceman64> OK ... the command that restarted my gnome ... in the process toasted my sessions options ... help
[11:26] <cheemp> when i install mysql with apt-get, what's the original user account and password for mysql?
[11:26] <topyli> marsh: my home directory dates from at least mandrake 8.2 times or something :)
[11:27] <Erick> cheemp it's root and there's no password for it
[11:27] <bluefrog-10> no password for mysql
[11:27] <j0nas`> so... ipw2200 support is still fucked in breezy?
[11:27] <marsh> and here's to the interconnectedness of all things :(....
[11:27] <MachineScrew> how do I make a USB HD ext3 filesystem writeable in Nautilus
[11:27] <nalioth> j0nas`: language please
[11:27] <jrattner1> do *.ico work in gnome
[11:27] <j0nas`> ahem pardon me
[11:27] <gusto5> does anyone know why firefox crashes once in a while? (5.10 breezy fox)
[11:27] <iceman64> what i need to reinstall the cd .. just to get a dang sessions manager back ..
[11:27] <Erick> yeah ico is icon
[11:27] <nicram> marsh: was this an ide drive or usb ?
[11:28] <cheemp> if i could improve 1 thing on ubuntu/linux, it would be the web browser
[11:28] <marsh> topyli, i jujst lost mine - and everything else.... :( as we spoke - looks like i'm down to this fresh install & no email addresses (among other things)
[11:28] <j0nas`> cheemp: port IE?
[11:28] <bluefrog-10> chemp mysqladmin -u root password "newpassword"
[11:28] <j0nas`> LOL
[11:28] <Juhaz> sobersabre, and no separate firmware either, so it too is whatever is bundled with breezy, I've done nothing related to this than typed ssid and wep key during installation
[11:28] <nicram> marsh: check you cabling very carefully, if you have any kinks or nics in the insulation then replace them.
[11:28] <iceman64> ok how do i restore my sessions options screen if i log out ...
[11:28] <marsh> nicram, IDE... was dual boot with winXP.
[11:28] <MachineScrew> how do I make a USB HD ext3 filesystem writeable in Nautilus
[11:28] <cheemp> bluefrog thanks :)
[11:28] <topyli> marsh: i've learned backing up the hard way too
[11:28] <Erick> MachineScrew stop repeating
[11:29] <MachineScrew> Erick: I am not repeating to those that just enterd
[11:29] <marsh> but like i said - could be me getting into shutting down using the power button - and now it comes to me... i think it was during an apt-get - quite a large one
[11:29] <nalioth> MachineScrew: a good rule of thumb is about every 5 minutes
[11:29] <Erick> well repeating, it's gonna get you kicked you and ignored MachineScrew
[11:29] <nicram> marsh: I hope you didn't loose valuable data - you can still try recovery if it is critical using 3rd party ext2 recovery toolsfs
[11:29] <marsh> was a mistake - i have two machines & hit the wrong one...
[11:30] <MachineScrew> nalioth: thanks
[11:30] <yaaar> hey guys. just got done with an ubuntu install on a friend's machine....seemed like things worked fine, came right up....but after doing all the updates, now it takes longer than a minute to get to a grub menu, and afterward it sits at the kernel loading for a minute or so, and complains that it doesn't fine an ext3 filesystem on /, even though we used reiser in the install....
[11:30] <iceman64> Help ... that gdm/restart  command ... what ever it did .. now if i log out ... i have no sessions options ....
[11:30] <j0nas`> MachineScrew: sudo chmod 777 <path to usb filesystem>
[11:30] <yaaar> anybody know what that's all about?
[11:30] <yaaar> (it still boots properly....just takes a lot longer)
[11:30] <MachineScrew> j0nas`: did that
[11:30] <marsh> toolsfs?
[11:30] <MachineScrew> j0nas`: didn't work
[11:30] <j0nas`> do you have it mounted?
[11:30] <Erick> iceman64 do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start;
[11:30] <cheemp> bluefrog: i get "mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed" "error: access denied for user root@localhost" .. :(
[11:30] <MachineScrew> yes
[11:30] <j0nas`> then it ought to work
[11:31] <MachineScrew> it's on the desktop
[11:31] <Doclotus> Gdm failed to load, said Xserver not found, is that a separate install?
[11:31] <nicram> marsh: sorry, touchpad error, ext2fs recovery tools...
[11:31] <Erick> Doclotus sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[11:31] <frontier> see Erick, t'is a puzzling one
[11:31] <Erick> ?/
[11:31] <nicram> marsh: modern IDE drives can have large read/write caches, which are great for performance but if you poweroff before this cache is purged you can be in trouble.
[11:32] <MachineScrew> j0nas`: you still with me ?
[11:32] <frontier> any idea's why under ubuntu breezy I can't get an upstream higher than 31Kbps when under windows I get 231Kbps
[11:32] <nicram> marsh: painfull and pricey at times : http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ext2%20recovery&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
[11:32] <marsh> Aahhh... and here's where I fell over...
[11:32] <iceman_64> still no kde option in the sessions manager screen
[11:32] <absenth> what was the gui tweek tool I'm supposed to install called again?
[11:33] <Erick> synaptic absenth ?
[11:33] <MachineScrew> frontier: its magic
[11:33] <marsh> checking it out now, nicram ... thanks again - will keep you posted.
[11:33] <zrothe> What is recommended to extract files from an ISO?
[11:33] <ecobuntu> !java
[11:33] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[11:33] <ecobuntu> !javadeb
[11:33] <ubotu> I guess javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[11:34] <MachineScrew> frontier: try disable ing IPv6 support damn though i don't know what modules to add
[11:34] <MachineScrew> frontier: I have slept yet
[11:34] <MachineScrew> up all night
[11:34] <iceman_64> ok tryed to do update .. got errors .. who can i past to
[11:34] <frontier> MachineScrew it's off putting, when I can download at my max capacity then can only send stuff almost as quick as I could recieve data when I was on dialup
[11:34] <zrothe> What is recommended to extract files from an ISO? Anyone?
[11:35] <absenth> Erick, actually, I was looking for the one that modifies the GUI.  rather then a GUI tool for installing package :)
[11:35] <frontier> cheers machine ;)
[11:35] <andril> hello all
[11:35] <iceman_64> who can tell me what error in apt-get update mean
[11:35] <yaaar> does anybody know why when i edit the apt sources file the way ubuntuguide says and then apt-get update, whenever i do apt-get upgrade it tells me a bunch of "file not found" stuff and says i need to run apt-get update to fix the problems? runnint update doesn't fix it
[11:35] <Jedrick> need help when trying to install ncurses. " ../c++/cursesw.h:17:23: error: strstream.h: No such file or directory" help anyone
[11:35] <nicram> ubotu: I doubt SUn would allow repackaging of Java, I think that JavaDeb is Gnu Java - an OSS impl of Java
[11:35] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, nicram
[11:35] <Bergcube> zrothe~  Simply mount the iso and browse it!
[11:35] <MachineScrew> frontier: what they say is Linux is better for networking it was designed that way lol
[11:36] <liquidten2> zrothe:  you can mount the iso via loopback and then copy files.  do a, sudo mkdir /mnt/iso | mount /filenamefor.iso -t iso9660 /mnt/iso -o loop
[11:36] <iceman_64> i HATE GNOME .. AND AM STUCK WITH IT
[11:36] <MachineScrew> !tell IPv6
[11:36] <calamari> is it possible to change the size of the fonts associated with the folder icons?
[11:36] <zrothe> ah, terrific thanks
[11:36] <frontier> lol, I won't arguw with it if I can get my upload speeds up, it's damned annoying having to go make a cup of tea while uploading a photo to my blog lol
[11:37] <Jedrick> need help when trying to install ncurses. " ../c++/cursesw.h:17:23: error: strstream.h: No such file or directory" help anyone
[11:37] <MachineScrew> frontier: ya I got ya there
[11:37] <Hobart> I can't get the Konsole Linux font working -- Tried Ubuntu Breezy on i386 and  Kubuntu Breezy on 3 machines (2 i386, 1 PPC) - I have enabled bitmap fonts in fontconfig, and updated the fontconfig cache.  Anyone know any other steps I can take to troubleshoot the font?
[11:37] <hyphenated> Jedrick: you're getting a compilation error trying to install ncurses?
[11:38] <nicram> ubotu : http://www.gnu.org/software/java/java.html as opposed to http://java.sun.com
[11:38] <ubotu> nicram: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[11:38] <MachineScrew> though you upload speed sound high
[11:38] <Jedrick> hyphenated:  yes
[11:38] <cocox> hey dude i typed "apt-cache search wine" and nothing happends ..................
[11:38] <_iGadget_> evening
[11:38] <Jedrick> when trying to do the command make.. and the result is that
[11:38] <MachineScrew> mine is on 50KB/s
[11:38] <hyphenated> Jedrick: why are you compiling it, instead of installing the package?
[11:38] <_iGadget_> can anyone tell me how to get my promise sx4000 card running in Ubuntu?
[11:38] <cocox> hey dude i typed "apt-cache search wine" and nothing happends
[11:38] <Jedrick> im trying to install
[11:39] <MachineScrew> my download is high 4Mb/s that like 400KB/s
[11:39] <yaaar> every time i run apt-get update i get weird gpg errors...
[11:39] <zrothe> liquidten2: that command doesn't seem to work. It says mount: not a directory
[11:39] <yaaar> my sources.list is pulled direct from ubuntuguide.org
[11:39] <hyphenated> Jedrick: is there a reason that you're compiling it yourself tho, instead of using the package for it?
[11:39] <tankenmate> nalioth: you around?
[11:40] <MachineScrew> how do I make a USB HD ext3 filesystem writeable in Nautilus
[11:40] <Jedrick> hyphenated: where can i download ncurses for ubuntu?
[11:40] <tankenmate> MachineScrew: It should mount rw if the device is writeable..
[11:40] <MachineScrew> nalioth: whois your dog
[11:40] <liquidten2> Jedrick: in the apt repositories.  You may have to enable the multiverse and universe repos though
[11:40] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: nope
[11:41] <som1> how do i get this package called "realtme-lsm-module"?
[11:41] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: it should be but it isn't
[11:41] <gusto5> MachineScrew, does it show up on fstab?
[11:41] <som1> it wont let me "just" get it
[11:41] <MachineScrew> on sec
[11:41] <tankenmate> MachineScrew: have you fooled around with udev settings?
[11:41] <Jedrick> i did enable the repos..
[11:41] <hyphenated> Jedrick: it's probably already installed. what does 'dpkg -l ncurses-*' say? lots of ii's?
[11:41] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: nope
[11:41] <Jedrick> dunno
[11:41] <MachineScrew> gusto5: an no but its mounted
[11:41] <frontier> Downstream  	1844 Kbps (230.5 KB/sec)
[11:41] <frontier> Upstream 	29 Kbps (3.6 KB/sec)
[11:41] <ptlo> Jedrick, apt-cache search ncurses will show the available packages related to it. then apt-get install <package_name> ... note, if you need to compile software that *uses* ncurses, you'll probably need -dev packages (which aren't installed by default)
[11:42] <nicram> ubotu: you said " ubotu: I guess javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)" , I'm just saying that I think javadeb may be the gnu implimentation as opposed to the sun implementation.
[11:42] <ubotu> nicram: what are you talking about?
[11:42] <gusto5> MachineScrew, you in breezy?
[11:42] <som1> ...
[11:42] <Jedrick> when trying to install ncurses i got this error: ../c++/cursesw.h:17:23: error: strstream.h: No such file or directory
[11:42] <Jedrick> strstream whats that
[11:42] <kbrooks> string stream
[11:42] <MachineScrew> gusto5: yep I always have this problem and I forget how I solved it
[11:42] <nicram> ubotu: sorry if I'm mistaken..
[11:42] <ubotu> nicram: No idea
[11:43] <hyphenated> Jedrick: now really, are you listening to anybody but yourself?
[11:43] <kbrooks> nicram: ubuntu is a bot
[11:43] <kbrooks> http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:43] <kbrooks> check it
[11:44] <nicram> kbrooks: thanks for letting me know - I may have just failed the turing test :-(
[11:44] <Jedrick> im just a newbie .. im trying to install psybnc and it needs ncurses thats why i get here.. and i dont know whats that all about
[11:45] <MachineScrew> gusto5: so what do you think it is
[11:45] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: any ideas
[11:45] <kbrooks> nicram: er, ubotu
[11:45] <andril> does anyone know why my screensaver locks the pc?
[11:45] <hyphenated> Jedrick: ok, listen really closely. you do not need to compile ncurses
[11:45] <acid2> hihi
[11:45] <gusto5> MachineScrew, looking up stuff for it. sec.
[11:45] <hyphenated> Jedrick: that doesn't need repeating, does it?
[11:45] <acid2> Where can I find info on resolving GPG errors with apt?
[11:46] <St3althcAt> hi guys
[11:46] <Jedrick> yes im not compiling it im trying to install
[11:46] <hyphenated> Jedrick: what you _do_ need to do, is install a "-dev" package, which is required when you want to compile something else against a particular library
[11:46] <symlink001> hey, does anyone know how to get contacts into evolution based on the contents of an IMAP folder?
[11:46] <ptlo> Jedrick, install 'libncurses5-dev' package. you can do it with: "sudo apt-get install libncurses-5" (apt-get install -> installs a package). after that, try to rebuild psybnc
[11:46] <St3althcAt> having problem playing World of Warcraft, it hangs when I select Enter World, can still hear sound but stays at the loading screen
[11:46] <hyphenated> Jedrick: so, install libncurses-dev
[11:46] <St3althcAt> drivers work well
[11:46] <gusto5> MachineScrew, i cant quite remember, but i had the smae problem with my USB drive as well
[11:47] <necator> hi
[11:47] <Jedrick> ok i'll try
[11:47] <St3althcAt> using Cedega 4.4.1
[11:47] <St3althcAt> any ideas?
[11:47] <necator> i have a 3 button mouse third button is middle scroll wheel but the scroll wheel doesnt seem to work how do I activate it ?
[11:47] <jrattner1> Can you download music with bit torrent
[11:47] <MachineScrew> gusto5: this shouldn't happen on default if Ubuntu is supposed to be easy
[11:47] <crimsun> St3althcAt: you should try 4.4.3
[11:47] <acid2> Where can I find info on resolving GPG errors with apt?
[11:47] <St3althcAt> ok, thx :)
[11:47] <yaaar> is there something wrong with the signature on the hoary-updates?
[11:47] <MachineScrew> gusto5: then again I have this problem in any distro
[11:48] <Seveas> acid2, yaaar just WAIT
[11:48] <acid2> :)
[11:48] <Seveas> and retry in a few minutes
[11:48] <gusto5> MachineScrew, me too. but that said, ive only used slackware and this
[11:48] <Seveas> if it doesn't work, retry later
[11:48] <gusto5> MachineScrew, and it's a one time-fixer right?
[11:48] <acid2> sorry, its real late hear and im exhausted :( Sorry about the impatience
[11:48] <Seveas> during updates at the archive this may happen
[11:48] <gusto5> MachineScrew, next time you plug it in it works fine?
[11:48] <yaaar> Seveas: oh, ok, that's fine.......i just didn't know, because everyone was ignoring my question
[11:48] <nalioth> jrattner1: anything anyone offers as a torrent, you can d/l
[11:48] <MachineScrew> gusto5: I was about to say the no matter the distro
[11:48] <tankenmate> nalioth: i found the problem :)
[11:49] <Rudemeister> anyone:
[11:49] <Rudemeister> Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /tmp/OraInstall2005-10-17_11-47-46PM/jre/bin/java. Please wait...
[11:49] <Rudemeister> /tmp/OraInstall2005-10-17_11-47-46PM/jre/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:49] <jrattner1> nalioth, whats the website, which is like a database of torrents something nova.. or i could be wrong
[11:49] <luicson> SAVC
[11:49] <nalioth> jrattner1: legaltorrents.com
[11:49] <necator> i have a 3 button mouse third button is middle scroll wheel but the scroll wheel doesnt seem to work how do I activate it ?
[11:49] <nalioth> Rudemeister: please dont paste in here
[11:49] <yaaar> Seveas: if the repo is busted, that would be a good thing to add to the topic...
[11:49] <jrattner1> nalioth, thanx
[11:49] <MachineScrew> gusto5: or even a reinstall this only happens on newlly formated drives
[11:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Rudemeister about paste
[11:49] <nalioth> jrattner1: we do not discuss or advocate illegal filesharing in here
[11:49] <carlos_> vf vf
[11:50] <jrattner1> nalioth, im not trying to I just wasnt sure the name of a website...
[11:50] <nicram> Rudemeister: apt-get install libstc++ (do apt-cache search libstdc to find a list)
[11:50] <carlos_> fddfs
[11:50] <tankenmate> nalioth: the machine had a memory problem, i ran memtest for 24 hours and a number of glitches showed up.. and i fixed the problem with the boot with a custom kernel, loop mounted the dist iso, copied it onto an external USB drive and modified the kernel and booted from that..
[11:51] <necator> i have a 3 button mouse third button is middle scroll wheel but the scroll wheel doesnt seem to work how do I activate it ?
[11:51] <Rudemeister> nicram:  I did:S
[11:51] <tankenmate> necator: it should work by default..
[11:51] <Rudemeister> *, sorry!
[11:51] <Rudemeister> please see: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3261
[11:51] <nalioth> tankenmate: cool! (whatever you said :)  )
[11:51] <necator> I think i said no to the 3 mouse button emulation on the instalation.
[11:51] <_iGadget_> hmz... seems like promise support for linux is a bitch :(
[11:52] <necator> Thinking that i didnt have to "emulate" it since I actually have 3 buttons.
[11:52] <nalioth> Rudemeister: you probably need the above pkg with -dev on it's end
[11:52] <tankenmate> nalioth: heh :) i had the problem needing to install from a custom kernel on some difficult hardware :P two days ago..
[11:52] <acid2> Where can I find info on resolving GPG errors with apt?
[11:52] <_iGadget_> guess I'll have to re-install windows to get my sx4000 card working :(
[11:52] <tankenmate> nalioth: im sure you have helped a million people since then :P
[11:52] <nicram> Rudemeister : have you tried doing a strace on the whole lot, ie strace [command]  and see what the last few lines of output say.
[11:52] <Rudemeister> nalioth: I installed the dev.
[11:52] <gusto5> sorry MachineScrew, i cant find the solution. but ill kep looking
[11:52] <calamari> can anyone help me get firefox working again?  here is info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77984
[11:53] <nicram> Rudemeister : or change the script to use the SUn Java JRE.
[11:53] <tankenmate> nacator: do you have a line that mentions "ZAxisMapping" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[11:53] <Jedrick> hyphenated:  dude it's still not working on psybnc
[11:53] <necator> not sure.
[11:53] <necator> Is there a fast way I can check?
[11:53] <MachineScrew> gusto5: pm me when you do I got to do some stuff
[11:53] <gusto5> MachineScrew, so it doesnt show up on /etc/fstab at all?
[11:53] <tankenmate> necator: $ egrep ZAxisMapping /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:53] <nalioth> Rudemeister: got your libc6 =bleh=  -dev files?
[11:53] <MachineScrew> gusto5: nope
[11:53] <necator> what does the $egrep part do just for personal knowledge?
[11:53] <nicram> Rudemeister : the oracle java may be specifically compiled for a redhat library(or other distro) library and not be compatible.
[11:53] <MachineScrew> gusto5: but its mounted
[11:54] <nicram> Rudemeister: also install the libstc++-dev... can't think of anything else to suggest.
[11:54] <tankenmate> necator: fire up a terminal, then type everything after the '$' symbol and then hit return
[11:54] <yaaar> hey guys....has the package for the gnome-clipboard-daemon changed its name? i thought it was 'smeg' but there's no package named that in the apt-cache
[11:54] <gusto5> right MachineScrew. never mind then
[11:54] <MachineScrew> gusto5: /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:54] <gusto5> even weirder...
[11:54] <necator> no such file or dir tankenmate.
[11:54] <yaaar> sorry i'm stupid
[11:54] <tankenmate> Machine: It _is_ mounted rw, well the kernel thinks so anyway...
[11:54] <gusto5> mounted but not writeable?
[11:54] <nalioth> yaaar: smeg is the menu editor
[11:54] <yaaar> i meant to say the menu editor
[11:55] <yaaar> nalioth yeah
[11:55] <tankenmate> machine: sure the hardware doesn't have write protect on?
[11:55] <nalioth> yaaar: in breezy, right click on your menu
[11:55] <Rudemeister> nicram: tnx
[11:55] <yaaar> nalioth; i'm in hoary
[11:55] <necator> Ok it wored was a typo.
[11:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yaaar about smeg
[11:55] <tankenmate> necator: w00t!
[11:55] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: this is a regular hardrive
[11:55] <yaaar> thanks nalioth
[11:55] <necator> Doesnt appear to ahve done anything tho.
[11:55] <nalioth> yaaar: i recommend the installsmeg script from the smeg homepage
[11:55] <yaaar> nalioth; you'd do that rather than backports?
[11:55] <tankenmate> necator: well you should have a working scroll... maybe your mouse type was incorrectly detected..
[11:56] <MachineScrew> tankenmate: the only thing that i have done to it is formated it it is in a ADS ext enclosure
[11:56] <nicram> Rudemeister: would definately download sun JRE and symlink it in (ln -s ) - as a temp hack... ;-)
[11:56] <insta> Hey guys ... I'm having problems with GDP authenticating through LDAP (PAM).  Console logins work just fine, and 'startx' will launch the X display as it should ... but logging in through GDM hangs after the password.  It just sits there, no error messages.  KDM doesn't do it.  Any advice?
[11:56] <Rudemeister> nicram: I think I must: libc6-dev is already the newest version.
[11:56] <gusto5> MachineScrew, anything on dmesg?
[11:56] <tankenmate> necator: $ egrep Protocol /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <yaaar> nalioth; also, with respect to the clipboard daemon (the next thing i'm gonna do) is there anything around for gnome that's like klipper for KDE? like, where i can keep a clipboard history?
[11:56] <MachineScrew> gusto5: one sec
[11:57] <necator> protocol is imps/2
[11:57] <Doclotus> I installed xorg after installing gdm, gdm isn't loading at all now and hanging my session. How do I keep GDM from trying to load at startup so I can troubleshoot?
[11:57] <tankenmate> necator: what dos it say?
[11:57] <tankenmate> machine: hmmm sounds weird.. definitely sounds like a hardware issue..
[11:57] <insta> Doclotus: boot it in recovery mode?
[11:57] <nalioth> yaaar: if it's not in the repos, check sourceforge.net or freshmeat.net (i'm sure there is something)
[11:58] <nalioth> yaaar: backports? for what?
[11:58] <Doclotus> I'm in recovery mode now, but no idea how to tell it to not load on startup
[11:58] <tankenmate> machine: just a tick while i hunt around hdparm man pages..
[11:58] <P229> is tspc not working for anyone else?
[11:58] <insta> Does anyone have experience with GDM and LDAP?
[11:58] <necator> tankenmate how can i detect it over again.
[11:59] <MachineScrew> gusto5: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3262
[11:59] <tankenmate> machine: does hdparm -r /dev/sd<which ever device> return 0 or 1?
[12:00] <tankenmate> necator: well imps/2 is the most common five button mouse (three normal, one up scroll, one down scroll)