[00:00] <OzoneNerd> Help please: I'm using KDevelop, how do I remove a file from a project?
[00:02] <OzoneNerd> No one?
[00:03] <dr_willis> Never used it.
[00:12] <kevin_> hey
[00:12] <kevin_> anybody up for a chat
[00:13] <mn> kevin_:what's up?
[00:13] <kevin_> hey im cool and you
[00:14] <mn> nuttin.  juss listening to some music and chatting on IRC
[00:14] <kevin_> so where you from mn
[00:14] <mn> you?
[00:14] <Guest75861> Question??/
[00:14] <kevin_> same chillin at how trying to get my scanner to work
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a support channel.  if you have a support question, ask it, if not, this is not the place to engage in idle chit-chat
[00:15] <Guest75861> anyone know about the network manager and wireless?
[00:15] <kevin_> i do  alittle why
[00:15] <mn> I know about wirelles
[00:15] <mn> wireless*
[00:15] <Guest75861> I recently used ndisgtk to install my wireless card.
[00:15] <kevin_> i also work on wirless
[00:16] <kevin_> and
[00:16] <Guest75861> so I've gotten to the point where it can see the device, but when I connect, and I give it the correct passkey, it won't connect.
[00:16] <mn> so what is your problem guest?
[00:16] <kevin_> ok how long is the key
[00:16] <Guest75861> 64bit
[00:16] <Guest75861> WEP.
[00:17] <mn> guest: you need to get the firmware for your card.  I had the exact same problem
[00:17] <jshewey> Trying to install grub2, but I am getting an error reguarding missing kernel.mod. Now, as memory serves me, this file is generated somewhere in the process of compiling a kernel. Is there a good place/package to generate this on ubuntu?
[00:17] <Guest75861> car to elaborate mn?
[00:17] <Guest75861> care*
[00:18] <kevin_> funny enough i use a usb wirless device and it works fine
[00:19] <Guest75861> mines a built in PCI.
[00:19] <kevin_> does anyone know how to get a scanner to work in hardy
[00:19] <mn> Well, firmware is software that is associated with a specific piece of hardware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmware for more info).  You need to install it for your card to work.  It's kind of like the BIOS for your pc
[00:19] <Guest75861> okay.
[00:19] <Guest75861> I'll see what I can dig up on it.
[00:19] <mn> Alright
[00:19] <Guest75861> thanks for your help.
[00:20] <jshewey> kevin: kooka
[00:20] <jshewey> kevin: or do you need a driver?
[00:21] <kevin_> well i tryed kooka it sees my scanner then it tells me to install sane
[00:22] <jshewey> And if you install sane?
[00:22] <kevin_> i installed sane but it still says i need to install it
[00:23] <kevin_> im busy installing all sane apps from adept manager now to see if that works
[00:24] <jshewey> kevin: try apt-get install sane-utils kscan-kde4 sane libsane libsane-extras xsane
[00:24] <kevin_> ok im busy getting it now i'll let you know
[00:24] <kevin_> i got a nopther problem 2
[00:26] <kevin_> jshewey you know anything about web cams
[00:26] <dr_willis> !webcam
[00:26] <jshewey> not really, but I can give it a shot.
[00:26] <dr_willis> My webcams either work out of the box.. or are totally unsupporte.d  :(
[00:27] <kevin_> mine works and then does not work
[00:27] <kevin_> wierd
[00:29] <kevin_> i use camorama but it freaks out all the time
[00:30] <gecko_> join/ winehq
[00:30] <gecko_> hmm..
[00:31] <gecko_> how do i join a channel?
[00:31] <Pici> gecko_: its: /join #winehq
[00:31] <gecko_> Ahh :P thanks
[00:31] <gecko_> or actualy, i think ythis is a question for ubuntu actualy.... i had my sound running just fine, and then one day it just stopped working... anyway to fix it?
[00:32] <kevin_> has anyone used a tv card in hardy
[00:32] <jshewey> kevin: out or in?
[00:32] <kevin_> in
[00:33] <kevin_> i think to what tv in hardy
[00:33] <jshewey> kevin: I have a mythbox, so yes.
[00:33] <jshewey> kevin: support for those damn things is all over the place.
[00:33] <kevin_> ha ha ha sorry still new to linux
[00:34] <kevin_> can you give me some help
[00:34] <jshewey> kevin: what are you trying to do and what card do you have?
[00:35] <jshewey> kevin: if you are real lucky you will say huppage
[00:36] <kevin_> ha ha ha i actually dont know some chines thing
[00:36] <kevin_> dont stress it works in win just thought it would be cool to work in ubuntu
[00:38] <kevin_> the card is old thou
[00:38] <jshewey> you can check by doing a sudo lspci
[00:39] <kevin_> does anyone have any guidelines on how to install themes in kde4+
[00:40] <kevin_> does anyone have any guidelines on how to install themes in kde4+
[00:47] <gecko_> can some one quickly remind me how to check my sound or config it using terminal??
[00:48] <Chris_Foster> is it possible not to have a graphics card? Cant it be on the motherboard as a "chipset". I dont think i have one
[00:50] <kevin_> hi chris well you might not have a 3d graphics card but you most definitly have a graphics card or else you would have no where to plug your screen in
[00:51] <Chris_Foster> I plug my screen into a port on my motherboard
[00:51] <Chris_Foster> thanks for answering, btw. Kubuntu chat is usually dead
[00:52] <kevin_> yes thats your graphics card but you can buy better ones for for 3d acceleration
[00:53] <kevin_> understand
[01:01] <taninomax> ubuntu.it?
[01:01] <kevin_> huh
[01:08] <user__> does anyone here experiment with telepathy and have a myspace? i've been playing around with it for awhile and i'd like to network please.
[01:09] <o0Chris0o_> hmm
[01:09] <o0Chris0o_> I think #kubuntu is the wrong place to ask about that :)
[01:09] <o0Chris0o_> try #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:09] <user__> thank u.
[01:14] <ign0ramus> o_O
[01:17] <kevin_> what program can i use to run my tv card in ubuntu hardy
[01:27] <gecko_> how do i run a check on my sound?
[01:28] <gecko_> it's not working and i cant seem to fix it
[01:28] <favro> !sound
[01:31] <Denise> its changed
[01:37] <afeijo> I need a good email server, with POP and IMAP. What could I use?
[01:39] <NCommander> afeijo, gmail?
[01:40] <afeijo> lol, no. hosted on my linux server
[01:40] <afeijo> for internal cia. use
[01:40] <afeijo> small cia
[01:40] <NCommander> Oh
[01:40] <NCommander> courier and postfix would be my home team
[01:40] <afeijo> today we use smarter mail on windows :(
[01:40] <gecko_> i'm trying to get to my Alsamixer in a terminal, but it keeps saying "No Such Device".. still cant fix my sound..
[01:40] <afeijo> googling...
[01:41] <NCommander> Both support SASL auth, SSL, and probably anything else you need
[01:41] <NCommander> There is also dovecot for IMAP, which is highly recommended, but I'm not as familiar with it
[01:41] <afeijo> I use IMAP a lot with gmail, and google app
[01:41] <afeijo> courier-mta ?
[01:41] <NCommander> thats it
[01:42] <NCommander> I use postfix, but exim is also a good SMTP server to go with your POP/IMAP server
[01:42] <afeijo> so I need to instal postfix and exim?
[01:43] <afeijo> thanks
[01:44] <favro> gecko_: it is   alsamixer   that you type
[01:45] <NCommander> afeijo, no, postfix and exim are different SMTP servers, They are mutually exclusive
[01:45] <gecko_> favro: i know, and that's what it says.. "no such device"
[01:46] <afeijo> oh just postfix then! cool
[01:46] <Denise> what is exim?
[01:46] <favro> gecko_: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[01:46] <gecko_> favro: k, i'll try that.
[01:47] <gecko_> favro: alredy have them.
[01:48] <gecko_> favro: even just reinstalled ALSA
[01:48] <favro> gecko_: I don't know why it won't work then...
[01:49] <gecko_> any one with any ideas??
[01:49] <kanothmist> hey
[01:51] <NickPresta> gecko_, restate your problem, I missed it...
[01:52] <Denise> alright
[01:52] <Denise> good night
[01:52] <gecko_> NickPresta: my sound used to work np, but randomly it just stopped...
[01:53] <gecko_> now i'm trying to fix it and can't get it to work
[01:53] <kanothmist> need help installing Mesa update
[01:53] <NickPresta> gecko_, did you do anything prior to having your sound stop working as expected?
[01:54] <Denise> what is the problem
[01:55] <gecko_> not that i'm aware of
[01:55] <gecko_> i think the only thing i might have done is put headphones into my sound jack.. other then that, nothing
[01:55] <Denise> it is not a big problem?
[01:55] <gecko_> well, my sound not working IS a rather big problem..
[01:56] <gecko_> i do sound recordings... if i cant hear my sound.. i'm in trouble haha
[01:56] <Denise> ok
[01:56] <Denise> good luck
[01:56] <Denise> anyway
[01:56] <gecko_> lol, thanks :)
[01:56] <Denise> i m hering very well here
[01:57] <gecko_> well, lucky you:P
[01:57] <Denise> hearing
[01:57] <SkEmO> ken leeeeeee!
[01:58] <NickPresta> gecko_, is there any way to test that your sound actually works and is not hardware or configuration related?
[01:58] <Denise> is Ncommander all right?
[01:58] <gecko_> NickPresta: i had this happend to me once before, and some one walked me through making a some sort of sound driver as my default and it worked again.. but i really dont remember what we did.. do you know how to go about that?
[01:58] <NCommander> wait what?
[01:58] <NCommander> Denise, ?
[01:58] <NickPresta> gecko_, what happens if you put in a live cd and play sound off of that? or from your windows partition (if you have one)
[01:58] <gecko_> NickPresta: umm.. sure i guess. let me plug it into my laptop and see if it runs..
[01:59] <Denise> do yu have your answer?
[01:59] <NCommander> for what?
[01:59] <Denise> your servers
[01:59] <NCommander> Denise, you need to put my nick in, or I will miss messages
[01:59] <Denise> and ur postfix and exim
[01:59] <NCommander> exim is a light weight SMTP server
[01:59] <Denise> what is exim
[01:59] <Denise> k
[01:59] <Denise> sorry
[01:59] <Denise> Ncommander
[02:00] <Denise> ok
[02:00] <Denise> I think u have what u need
[02:01] <NCommander> Denise, its a mail server
[02:01] <Denise> ok
[02:01] <Denise> anyway
[02:01] <Denise> I dont know it enough
[02:01] <gecko_> that's odd, it's saying that it's "malfuctioned" does not reconize it
[02:02] <gecko_> could it be the USB cord itself?
[02:02] <afeijo> postfix working
[02:02] <Denise> anytime
[02:02] <afeijo> there is a good web manager for postfix?
[02:02] <mn> What is the command to find the wireless card you have?
[02:03] <Denise> mail server
[02:03] <Denise> u mean it travel
[02:03] <Denise> ?
[02:03] <NCommander> Denise, no, email server
[02:04] <Denise> I m lost
[02:04] <Denise> ok
[02:04] <Denise> then
[02:04] <Denise> its ok for me
[02:04] <NCommander> afeijo, webmin has support. but I don't know if it meets the "good" qualification
[02:04] <Denise> how u know what is the good qualification
[02:04] <afeijo> lol ok, I will test it
[02:05] <gecko_> NickPresta: so it says it's unable to recongnize the USB device.. witch is odd why would it randomly just stop working  but work for so long?
[02:06] <Denise> u sure it stoped working?
[02:06] <NickPresta> gecko_, I'm not sure what the problem could be, sorry. I would ask your question again soon and see if someone can help you.
[02:07] <gecko_> well, i plugged it into my laptop, and it wont reconize it..
[02:07] <Denise> I think it recognize it
[02:07] <gecko_> wouldnt play through speakers..
[02:08] <Denise> listen carefully
[02:08] <mn> What is the command to find the wireless card you have in *buntu?
[02:09] <Denise> it is singing
[02:09] <Denise> discreetly
[02:11] <faileas> mn: lspci or lsusb ... depends on the interface
[02:12] <Denise> exhausted
[02:12] <Denise> bye
[02:14] <Denise> u there?
[02:16] <Denise> hey
[02:16] <Denise> was it ur last big trap?
[02:16] <Denise> what if it was?
[02:16] <Denise> bang
[02:17] <Denise> give me my note tomorrow
[02:17] <Denise> libra
[02:19] <mn> anyone know where i can get the list that ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net used to have of wireless drivers for ndiswrapper?
[02:20] <gecko_> NickPresta: i think it might possibly be the sound system itself.... just plugged in my old crap speakers and they work just fine... well, for a pair of old blown speakers anyways..
[02:21] <gecko_> NickPresta: but i'm trying to play a movie and it's saying that "Xinepart" failed...that "all audio drivers failed to initialize".. any ideas?
[02:25] <gecko_> Anyone know how to fix this problem?    "XinePart" Failed, All Audio Drivers Failed To Initialize
[02:34] <neSSun0o> hi guys does anyone use kopete?
[02:39] <gecko_> neSSunOo: yes i do all the time. not sure what i can do, but i can try and help
[02:41] <neSSun0o> alright thanks
[02:41] <neSSun0o> im trying to send offline messages
[02:41] <neSSun0o> and kopete doesn't let me
[02:42] <neSSun0o> is there a plug in? or something?
[02:42] <sporkf> hi
[02:42] <sporkf> i was watching a movie with steven segal (out for justice), segal was fighting a chinese dude with sticks in a bar while his buddies were holler'n/cheer'n  "FUCK HIS FUCK"N EYE OUT"!!   my question is, how do you fuck someones eye out?
[02:42] <NickPresta> sporkf, fail
[02:42] <neSSun0o> sporkf.......................................................................
[02:43] <gecko_> no, as far as i've known Kopete will not allowed offline messages to be sent unless a chat link has already been opened
[02:43] <Dragnslcr> !ops | sporkf
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> neSSun0o- I don't think Kopete has anything special for offline messages, but some protocols support them
[02:44] <sporkf> is there a glitch?
[02:44] <Pici> sporkf: This is a support channel, please refrain from the offtopic chatter and profanity.
[02:44] <sporkf> oh
[02:44] <neSSun0o> gecko_: someone wrote me and now it's offline, i replied but nothing, it says i cant!
[02:44] <sporkf> you're all a bunch of wuss's
[02:44] <dr_willis> sporkf,  yea.. whatever..
[02:44] <neSSun0o> Dragnslcr: im with messenger, kopete using the msn protocol but nothing
[02:44] <dr_willis> :)
[02:44] <Fieldy> nalioth: thanks
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> Nice knowing ya, sporkf
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> neSSun0o- I don't know if MSN supports it. I know ICQ at least use to, and Google Talk does
[02:45] <Schuenemann> does anyone have a Intel GMA X3100 graphics card? Does it run well?
[02:45] <gecko_> hmm, i'm not to sure, it works for me.. but i have to already talking to them then i switch to offline and everything still works just fine as long as i dont close the link.
[02:45] <dr_willis> and hes booted from Ubuntu also.. :) a record@!
[02:45] <neSSun0o> Dragnslcr: MSN does support offline messages, i dont understand why kopete doesnt!!!!!!
[02:46] <neSSun0o> gecko_: what? can you repeat?
[02:46] <dr_willis> offline messages? Hmm..
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> neSSun0o- if MSN supports it, I don't see why Kopete wouldn't
[02:46] <neSSun0o> same with me though
[02:46] <dr_willis> their definiation of Offline may be different :)  - sounds almost like its doing some sort of DCC chatting.
[02:47] <Schuenemann> amsn supports is
[02:47] <gecko_> neSSunOo: i'm not to sure why it won't work for you. i know for myself as long as i have a link open with them to begin with and freely talking, i can switch to "invisable" and it still works.
[02:47] <neSSun0o> hey, someone wrote me, i was out, i got back, found the opened chat and replied, kopete says The following message has not been sent correctly  (Connection closed):
[02:47] <Schuenemann> it*
[02:47] <dr_willis> Perhaps the other guy closed the connection?
[02:48] <neSSun0o> gecko_: so u think if i switch to invisible it will work, i'll try it out, one sec
[02:49] <neSSun0o> nothing... it doesnt let me
[02:49] <neSSun0o> f....g kopete!
[02:49] <neSSun0o> anyway
[02:50] <neSSun0o> is there an instant messenger that allows me to send msn offline messages???
[02:50] <Dragnslcr> neSSun0o- you can try checking #kopete
[02:50] <neSSun0o> i'll pass to it
[02:50] <neSSun0o> alright thanks
[02:50] <Dragnslcr> neSSun0o- I don't use MSN anymore, so I can't help much
[02:50] <gecko_> neSSunOo: sorry i couldn't help
[02:50] <neSSun0o> thank u guys, dont worry+
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> emesene
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> !info emesene | neSSun0o
[02:53] <Schuenemann> does anyone have a Intel GMA X3100 graphics card? Does it run well?
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Schuenemann: i do and it does
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not a gaming powerhouse, but for compiz or the like, it's a winner
[02:54] <ign0ramus> Schuenemann: it's what i'm using right now
[02:55] <ign0ramus> Schuenemann: actually, since hardy, it uses open source drivers that work fine by default
[02:55] <neSSun0o> with emesene i can send offline messages??
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> neSSun0o: last i checked you can
[02:57] <Schuenemann> don't you use any games, not even older ones? Or run blender, for example?
[02:57] <neSSun0o> alright
[02:57] <neSSun0o> i'll try it out
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i play plenty of games, just nothing really recent (if i did that i'd use windows)
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> never played with blender, however
[02:58] <dr_willis> PySol!
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> wesnoth
[02:59] <dr_willis> That one is good..but it seems its either way too easy... or way too hard..
[02:59] <dr_willis> :)
[02:59] <dr_willis> I get a guy leveled up... and them BAM he gets womped on.
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> Agreed
[02:59] <dr_willis> Ive been playing FreeCol a lot lately also
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it's a bit frustrating
[03:00] <Schuenemann> Daisuke_Ido, thanks, I think I'll get it
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> I just broke down and got a Wii instead
[03:00] <dr_willis> Id like to see a game more akin to the "AdvancedWars'" thats out on the GBA/DS
[03:00] <Schuenemann> dedicated GC are soooooooo expensive
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> I'd love to see more medium difficulty Wesnoth campaigns
[03:01] <Schuenemann> in US they are cheap, but in Brazil...
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i love my DS
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> which is my usual gaming platform
[03:01] <dr_willis> My brother took my DS. :()
[03:02] <Schuenemann> can you run open arena with that card?
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> Kick him in the head and take it back
[03:02] <dr_willis> not like i used it much. All the latest games for it i tried all needed the ds pen. and i HATE using that pen
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> Isn't Open Arena based on Q3?
[03:02] <dr_willis> he took it for his kids. :) they were fighting over the one he had.
[03:02] <Schuenemann> yes
[03:02] <Schuenemann> same engine
[03:02] <dr_willis> he gave me 2 xbox's and  some other stuff to play with. heh
[03:02] <sporkf> @ 4:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMu2xNBpyQc
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> Then just about any video chipset made after 2000 should handle it
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> Who let sporkf back in here?
[03:03] <Schuenemann> lol
[03:04] <Schuenemann> I think that card suits my needs, then
[03:41] <surgy> !dvd
[03:42] <surgy> !medibuntu
[04:06] <tkesler> anyone know about x-fi sound cards??
[04:07] <tkesler> hello?
[04:08] <tkesler> anyone?
[04:09] <tkesler> there is no one out tonite
[04:14] <mr---t-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554942 | tkesler
[05:07] <arthur_> noob of the noobs looking for help
[05:08] <arthur_> wanting to install beryl but the web site is down...... anyone
[05:14] <bluelight3> how to check if phpmyadmin is installed? via which command
[05:23] <chipbuddy> !ssh
[05:35] <ronnie_> hi, wondering if any could plz put up a link to download an (ISO) ubuntu/studio, not alternate, or dvd, cause I don't have a dvd burner, just a rom, ty = )
[05:36] <NickPresta> ronnie_, you want a link to the ubuntu iso image?
[05:37] <ronnie_> the 8.04.1 for ubuntu studio, ya the iso download plz
[05:37] <NickPresta> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/8.04.1/release/
[05:38] <ronnie_> found one but it came up alternate cd, so didn't think it was the right one,  thank-you Nick, so alternate wrong?
[05:39] <NickPresta> The alternate cd isn't 'wrong' it is just different. It uses a text (curses) based installer
[05:39] <NickPresta> both work fine and achieve the same result
[05:40] <ronnie_> k thx tought it was only extra packages & not the proper thing = )
[05:50] <sancho21> How to clean text through shell script? When I see the sql through cat my.sql the query is shown nicely, but bad when it seen in database. It seems that my text is not clean
[06:19] <carlos> #mexico
[06:23] <noaXess> good morning
[06:31] <SkEmO> how do i make VeohTv work on ubuntu?
[06:33] <ronnie_> can you only burn ubuntu/studio 8.04 to a dvd?, says it's 801mb!!, & I only have a cdrw & dvd rom, = (
[06:37] <ronnie_> guess there's not a way to burn 1/2 N 1/2 to 2 cdrw's hehe, wishful thinkin, = )
[06:38] <error404notfound> how to refresh kmenu after new apps installation? plus how can I share folders using terminal with samba?
[06:39] <error404notfound> anyone?
[06:47] <error404notfound> everyone is so sleepy :P
[07:00] <puskom> h
[07:02] <puskom> hiiiiii
[07:15] <SkEmO> nite
[07:16] <mdleyson__> hello everybody
[07:26] <_Georgi_> hello to all, could you tell me anyone GUI for wireless under kubuntu
[07:29] <jussi01> _Georgi_: knetwork manager
[07:30] <_Georgi_> jussi01:  thank you very much
[07:34] <smax> hi
[07:34] <smax> is it possible to fuck someones eye out?
[07:35] <smax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMu2xNBpyQc   at 4:40  they're holler'n it
[07:35] <rhkfin> Anyone know if there is a repository for Kubuntu/KDE4 themes available? go to kde-looks.org -> search -> download -> install doesn't sound cool..
[07:35] <rhkfin> smax: offtopic here!
[07:36] <jussi01> !ohmy | smax
[07:37] <noaXess> any body an idea.. if i coopy text from openoffice writer an paste it eg in kate then i get allways a line-break at the end..
[07:37] <jussi01> rhkfin: better to ask in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[07:37] <rhkfin> jussi01: right :)
[07:38] <smax> ubottu: sorry
[07:38] <smax> ubottu: it's just i thought that if they could say it on youtube, it's cool to say here. since there's no porn on youtube
[07:39] <rhkfin> jussi01: Though I'd be happy with a KDE3 themes repository / deb package too :)
[07:39] <jussi01> rhkfin: yeah...
[07:39] <rhkfin> smax: the channel is, as the topic says 'Official Kubuntu support' :)
[07:39] <rhkfin> and yes, ubottu is a bot :)
[07:40] <smax> ubottu: you're only a bot?  (sheesh, can't believe i wanted to fuck you)
[07:40] <jussi01> !ohmy | smax
[07:41] <smax> lol im fun-e
[07:42] <jussi01> smax: best to head over to #kubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)
[07:43] <smax> oh ok
[08:27] <joeyramone> hey is anyone familiar with ubuntu on mac?
[08:27] <joeyramone> mac ppc*
[08:44] <micha_> what package do i have to install to get virtualbox guest additions
[08:44] <micha_> Linux michaLinux 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:45] <rhkfin> virtualbox-ose-modules-generic I guess..
[08:45] <rhkfin> ah, no..
[08:45] <rhkfin> virtualbox-ose-guest-modules-generic I think
[08:46] <micha_> hmm i do rhkfin but if i go to mount iso in virtual box there is no adittion
[08:48] <rhkfin> Then this should help you: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/13/installing-guest-additions-for-ubuntu-guests-in-virtualbox/
[08:48] <rhkfin> need to go..
[08:49] <micha_> thanks rhkfin
[08:55] <tyson_> how can i upgrade from hardy to ibex?
[08:58] <Sixzero> tyson_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy
[08:59] <Sixzero> tyson_: scroll down near the bottom of the page and it should give you an idea of what you gotta do.
[08:59] <Sixzero> Do we have any c++ or c# programmers in the house tonight?
[09:03] <tyson_> thank you
[09:04] <Sixzero> no problem man
[09:05] <Sixzero> Does anyone know what the best IDE would be for me to use to write and compile c code.  If specifics are needed, I'm attempting a program for Sony PSP's.
[09:08] <chipbuddy> has anyone encountered a problem where ssh will work fine over a wired connection, but not a wireless connection?
[09:10] <marketing> chi mi sa dire come far riconoscere una scheda modem a kubuntu?
[09:16] <jussi01> Sixzero: your choice, kdevelop, eclipse, kate
[09:17] <jussi01> there are many, for most of them its personal style
[09:22] <Sixzero> Right on.  I got kdevelop and kate just for s&g, but now I've got another question.  Before I can compile the toolchain to setup my environment, I'm supposed to write 2 lines in my login script.  Anyone know where I can find it?
[09:33] <micha_> somebody please help me ... what is the package for virtualbox guest addition
[09:35] <micha_> somebody please help me ... what is the package for virtualbox guest addition
[09:37] <Sixzero> micha_: virtualbox-ose-guest-utils ?
[09:37] <Sixzero> check it in synaptic and see if it's what you're looking for
[09:41] <Vezir> so why does the kubuntu disk have no mp3 support available
[09:41] <Vezir> not even a way to install it because only certain packages work
[09:42] <Vezir> imop that's kind of silly
[09:42] <favro> !mp3
[09:42] <micha_> Sixzero: there should be a .iso but it is not there ... i have done this a lot of times ... ????
[09:43] <Vezir> well i need it ont he livedisk because my hard drive just died
[09:43] <Vezir> and my other hard drive is my media drive with no space on it
[09:46] <Sixzero> are you looking for a live cd of some sort micha?
[09:50] <micha_> i start virtualbox via the kmenue ... i installed xp already but i can't share folders because the guest additions are missing ... i googled and found out about the divice menu but i can't find it ...
[10:16] <ja1> Hi! Think I got everything set but I thought I just check with you guys before installing kubuntu: I have different partitions and several OS's on my desktop computer and I only want kubuntu to go to one partition, and then mount my /home partition. Will that cause any troubles to me? Will the bootloader stay the same (lilo) or will kubuntu install another one?
[10:19] <noaXess> any body an idea.. if i coopy text from openoffice writer an paste it eg in kate then i get allways a line-break at the end..
[10:21] <ja1> noaXess: And you cant remove the linebreak?
[10:22] <noaXess> ja1: in oow there is now line-break.. if i pasted it, i can remove it.. but the problem is, if i copy a password from oow and paste it into a password filed, i need to delete the last char
[10:40] <bouma> when use i add/remove to install kile, and try and use the help i get, could not launch the kde help center: could not find service khelpcenter.
[10:40] <bouma> how can i get the kdehelp working
[10:40] <stdin> is khelpcenter installed?
[10:43] <bouma> stdin: im installing it now
[11:06] <neSSun0o> hi guys while listening to amarok my collection desappears, any idea? i already went on #amarok and they said they have no idea
[11:33] <rain2> Guest20201: it is horrible to have your nick name stolen
[11:34] <rain2> Guest20201: i say this because i've heard that my nick was used by other people
[11:36] <Guest20201> rain2: stupid noob :p
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:36] <rain2-theNoob> ^_^
[11:36] <rain2-theNoob> tcho !
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> rain2-theNoob: keep it friendly, you were once a noob
[11:45] <rain2> i think some people want to get me in trouble
[11:47] <rain2> as they keep stealing my nickname
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> then register your name with a password
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> then we'll know its you
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> !register | rain2
[11:50] <rain2> it is too late for that
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> why?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> has someone registered it already?
[11:52] <rain2> no. i fear too much damage has already been done
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> then register asap or get a new nick and register it
[11:53] <rain2> that makes sense
[12:01] <rain2> so the command to register is /register right?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> !register | rain2
[12:04] <rain2> thanks, it's just that i can't use my webrowser atm
[12:04] <rain2> so could you tell my what the command is?
[12:05] <rain2> someone told me it started with /msg?
[12:06] <Agent_bob> /msg nickserv register <password_goes_here>
[12:06] <Agent_bob> i wrote myself a ps wrapper   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/1842
[12:07] <rain2> thanks!
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> rain2: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0; firefox-3.0 &
[12:07] <Agent_bob> heh i posted that and then saw an error in the [ ] test.  not quoted  ;/
[12:09] <rain2> [Notice] -NickServ- Insufficient parameters for REGISTER.
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> rain2: id head over to www.freenode.net and see how to do it there
[12:11] <Agent_bob> so i'll post another one.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/1843   :)
[12:11] <stdin> rain2: /msg NickServ register <password> <email addres>
[12:11] <stdin> rain2: you'll then have to check your email and do what that says
[12:12] <Machtin> hey guys.. does anyone know a tool to resynchronize audio and video-stream of a movie?
[12:12] <Agent_bob> stdin have the started requiring email to register ?
[12:12] <Machtin> because i got some movies where audio and video are not how they're supposed to be
[12:12] <stdin> Agent_bob: yeah, it happened when the services changed a month or two ago
[12:13] <Agent_bob> hmmm i'm glad i regestered long ago then...
[12:13] <stdin> Agent_bob: it's only used if you want a password reset, it's hidden from us morals
[12:14] <stdin> *mortals
[12:14] <Agent_bob> stdin that's not the point, point is i don't have email.
[12:14] <stdin> doesn't your ISP provide you with one?
[12:14] <Agent_bob> errr what isp  ;/
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Machtin: http://backports.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=2762741
[12:15]  * Agent_bob whistles and wonders off to another channel.
[12:15] <cga> hi all, will kubuntu have KDE 4.1.x as default desktop in 8.10 ?
[12:15] <stdin> Agent_bob: btw, I think cut must have changed sometime: "cut: fields and positions are numbered from 1"
[12:15] <stdin> cga: yes
[12:15] <cga> cool
[12:16] <cga> what if i upgrade from 8.04 that has KDE 3.5.x?
[12:16] <Agent_bob> stdin really,  have you tested that ?    it works perfectly in dapper.
[12:16] <stdin> cga: it will upgrade you to KDE 4
[12:16] <cga> cool as a fsck
[12:16]  * ActionParsnip will be installing fluxbox on kubuntu intrepid asap
[12:16] <cga> thanks
[12:16] <stdin> Agent_bob: well I ran "/bin/ps -Awf | cut -b'0-8,30-36,48-112' | grep -ve '?'"
[12:17] <Agent_bob> stdin and it errored out ?
[12:17] <stdin> yep
[12:17] <Agent_bob> but with s/0/1/ it works ?
[12:17] <stdin> exactly
[12:18] <Agent_bob> ok i'll ammend it for the later version,  thanks for the heads up.
[12:19] <cga> stdin: one last question about kubuntu kde{3,4} and upgrade. will 8.10 have only kde 4 applications or will it be a mix ??? (ie for k3b)
[12:19] <stdin> cga: we'll use KDE 4 applications where possible, but for applications which have not been ported (k3b, konversation, knetworkmanager) we'll use KDE 3 apps
[12:20] <cga> stdin: ok thanks, pretty fair.
[12:24] <maxagaz> is there an equivalent of baobab for kde ?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> !info baobab
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> !baobab
[12:30] <ghostcube> what is baobab
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> never heard of it here
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> http://www.gnome.org/projects/baobab
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Baobab is able to scan either specific directories or the whole filesystem (local or remote), in order to give the user a graphical tree representation including each directory size or percentage in the branch. A graphical treemap is also provided for any selected folder as far as a full file-search functionality. Baobab can open/delete folders and files. Auto-detects in real-time any change to the mounted devices and t
[12:31] <maxagaz> it's an amazing tool
[12:32] <Agent_bob> doesn't kde already have one of those ?
[12:32] <ghostcube> no idea looks like monitoring tool:|
[12:33] <maxagaz> has someone ever tried pc-bsd ?
[12:34] <ghostcube> maxagaz: http://kdirstat.sourceforge.net/
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: i wanna but cant be bothered
[12:37] <maxagaz> i'm wondering which one is the best, kubuntu or pc-bsd
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> !best | maxagaz
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: all i can say is try it, see what you think
[12:42] <oroszg> Jó napot
[12:42] <oroszg> Szeretnék segítséget kérni tapasztaltabb felhasználótól
[12:42] <oroszg> Ubuntut használok
[12:43] <oroszg> két hálókártyával
[12:43] <Agent_bob> !hu
[12:43] <Agent_bob> !ru
[12:43] <oroszg> English
[12:43] <oroszg> ?
[12:43] <Agent_bob> yes
[12:43] <Agent_bob> !en
[12:44] <oroszg> so i have a little problem with 2 nic in one machine
[12:44] <oroszg> i want share internet
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> !router | oroszg
[12:44] <Agent_bob> !samba
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> oroszg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[12:44] <oroszg> when i connect the 2nd machine it gets the ip the dhcp server i create but can not see the internet
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> oroszg: the docs are there dude, just follow them and you can set it up. its cheaper to run a router 24/7 than a whole pc to get routing
[12:46] <Agent_bob> oroszg you have to add a "default gateway"    and the easiest is to "bridge" the two interfaces
[12:46] <Agent_bob> !info bridge-utils
[12:46] <Agent_bob> that package helps greatly   ^
[12:46] <oroszg> thx
[12:47] <oroszg> i will try it
[12:47] <Agent_bob> oroszg there are also several good online tutorials about this very thing.
[12:47] <oroszg> ok but this is the firt time to do this
[12:47] <oroszg> i use webmin
[12:48] <Agent_bob> oroszg we all start some place  :)
[12:48] <oroszg> :)
[12:50] <oroszg> Agent_bob can you send me some links?
[12:50] <oroszg> I would be very greatfull
[12:55] <Agent_bob> http://www.howtoforge.com
[12:59] <lokai> anyone know if its possible to plot user-generated, non-sequental arrays WITHOUT having to write these arrays to disk using GNUPLOT?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> lokai: wow, no idea
[13:02] <lokai> hah, actually got more response from #gnuplot
[13:02] <lokai> err than
[13:03] <neSSun0o> hi guys i want to open this file to modify it with this command kdesudo kate root/usr/share/emesene/UserList.py it says the file doesn't exist, where am i wrong? thank you
[13:04] <lokai> uh does it exist?
[13:04] <neSSun0o> yes it does
[13:04] <ghostcube> locate UserList.py
[13:04] <neSSun0o> but i might be wrong on the route i dunno
[13:04] <neSSun0o> with that comnmand i find where it is?
[13:04] <neSSun0o> thanks
[13:04] <neSSun0o> ill try it out
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> neSSun0o: try tab completing the folder names
[13:05] <Agent_bob> not root/   unless you are in / to begin with.    /root/blah.....
[13:05] <lokai> ah good point Agent_bob
[13:05] <neSSun0o> thatz weird, accessing it by GUI interface the file it's in root/usr/share/emesene/ but with the command locate it says it's in /usr/lib/python2.5/UserList.py
[13:06] <neSSun0o> how's that possible?
[13:06] <Agent_bob> ok i'm out.
[13:06] <ghostcube> neSSun0o: heh
[13:06] <neSSun0o> ain't i wrong writing "root" at the beginning?
[13:07] <oroszg> Hi Guys
[13:07] <oroszg> I solved the problem
[13:07] <rareearth> 4
[13:08] <oroszg> I entered the gateway ip under the DHCP server but I should have to enter the IP
[13:08] <oroszg> It is working fine now
[13:08] <oroszg> thank for your help
[13:10] <neSSun0o> i only had to repeat the command without "root" in front
[13:28] <dhendu9411> does anyone know why I have to have my numlock turned on in order to use the home key when working in textboxes?
[13:34] <_-Jay-_> whats your keyboard?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> dhendu9411: what is your keyboard and can we have a pastebin of your xorg.conf
[13:42] <lyoussef> fds
[13:42] <lyoussef> alo
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> lo
[13:42] <lyoussef> is any body there?
[13:42] <ghostcube> no
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> im definately not here
[13:43] <Denise> same for me
[13:43] <lyoussef> bonjour tt le monde
[13:43] <Denise> I m outside
[13:43] <Pici> !fr
[13:43] <Koordin> hi, what can i do in order to make a snapshot with kde4 (ksnapshot) without having to manully lauch it ?
[13:43] <Denise> lyoussef is french
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: press printscreen on keyboard
[13:44] <Koordin> ActionParsnip: if i'm here that means i've tried ^^
[13:44] <The-Compiler> Koordin: if printscreen doesn't work you can pretty sure bind it to it in the systemsettings
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: not necessarily, i assume nothing
[13:44] <lyoussef> i have installed kubuntu two wekks ago , and since there my computer is verry slow
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: bind the scancode you get in xev to your app to take a screenshot
[13:45] <Koordin> ActionParsnip: you're right
[13:45] <lyoussef> i dont see any timeout errors in the log
[13:45] <Koordin> xev ?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: if you install imagemagick, you can bind it to import ~/MyScreenshot.png
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: run it in konsole (or whatever) and it will give you the codes of keyboard and mouse inputs
[13:46] <Koordin> i have "ksnapshot"
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: thatll do
[13:47] <Koordin> xev gives me 65 for example when i press A but nothing when i press "print screen"
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: try a few A's then press printscreen a few times
[13:48] <Koordin> XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> hmm, looks like you may need to tweak you keyboard in xorg.conf or keyboard settings
[13:50] <Koordin> what do i need to do ?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: can we see your xorg.cof please
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> !paste | Koordin
[13:52] <Koordin> sure i'll paste it
[13:54] <Koordin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/50103/
[13:55] <Koordin> ActionParsnip:
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/50105/
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: ive got that for my uk keyboard
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: try adding those bits but using your input locale, it may work. You can always remove them if its no good
[13:57] <Koordin> i'm a newb, i didn't understand
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:58] <Koordin> yes
[13:59] <Koordin> but i replace what by what ?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: add the lines I have to your keyboard section that you dont have, if you are from england then you dont need to edit anything
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> if not, change gb to whatever 2 chars are your country (e.g germany = de, france =fr, USA = us)
[13:59] <Koordin> yes i'm from france
[13:59] <Koordin> but i already avec a Section Input Device
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> then you need to add the Xkblayout bit like mine
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> but make it fr instead of gb
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> id add the other 2 lines as well
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> you are only updating that section, the rest is fine
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: you understanding?
[14:03] <nor> hi there. i've a problem with my toolbar-icons. they've disappeared as i change something in kcontrol -> appearance -> style -> toolbar ... Does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> nor: does a reboot help?
[14:04] <Koordin> yes i understand i'll try that
[14:04] <nor> nope
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> nor: its very microsofty but it can help
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> nor: click k-menu -> run command then type kicker
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> nor: is that what you mean?
[14:06]  * ActionParsnip waits.....
[14:06] <nor> no, the kicker is fine... even the kmenu is working well... but the toolbars in e.g. kopete or kmail dont have icons anymore
[14:07] <nor> only little grey boxes --- almost dots
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> oh like application icons
[14:07] <nor> ye :)
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> ok
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> nor: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde&m=108029404825296&w=2
[14:08] <nor> btw: switching to an old backuped theme didnt work either
[14:12] <nor> ActionParsnip: ty, but thats not the problem.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> bah
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> try a new theme maybe
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> i only use kde apps, i use fluxbox myself but like kde apps
[14:15] <Koordin> ActionParsnip: now how can i bind "print screen" to ksnapshot ?
[14:15] <Koordin> and i have a last question. Why does konvesation have no menu ?
[14:15] <Guest79627> i have already tryed other themes. doesnt work
[14:15] <nor__> aaah, nick collision :)
[14:16] <nor__> ill try a new theme and reboot... brb
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Koordin: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-linux&m=106725592006505&w=2
[14:17] <serdar_> selam
[14:17] <serdar_> Turk varmı
[14:17] <serdar_> hi
[14:17] <serdar_> everybody
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> hi serdar_
[14:19] <serdar_> hi
[14:22] <leaszumik> cual es el canal ubuntu spanish
[14:24] <nor_> aaah, fixed :)
[14:28] <biall02> elo
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> !es | leaszumik
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> nor_: what did you do?
[14:32] <ForgeAus> whats kdialogd4?
[14:33] <ForgeAus>  kgtk-wrapper xchat
[14:33] <ForgeAus> /usr/bin/kdialogd-wrapper: line 23: kdialogd4: command not found
[14:33] <ForgeAus> ERROR: Could not talk to KDialogD!!!
[14:33] <ForgeAus> !info kdialog
[14:33] <ForgeAus> !info kdialogd
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install kdial(press tab)
[14:34] <ForgeAus> there isn't one
[14:34] <nor_> i chosed the keramik-theme in kcontrol and after a reboot the icons appeared... but the problem havnt solved yet. other themes still dont show them.
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077
[14:34] <ForgeAus> its not a package, I guess its built into another package
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !themes | nor_
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> nor_: thats all i know of themes
[14:37] <peppe> ciau
[14:37] <Guest93194> come va?
[14:38] <nor_> :) ok ill have a look. ty
[14:38] <ForgeAus> Yes, kdialogd was succesfully built on Kubuntu Hardy. I'm sorry, but I don't know how to fix it on Gentoo :'(. I'm assuming its somewhere in hardy
[14:38] <ardeshir> hi. I just installed kubuntu and at first everything was fine, then the power went out and when I turned the comp on again the screen is stuck in 640x480 res, and no higher res shows up on the Monitor and Display settings
[14:38] <ForgeAus> and usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin in my path
[14:39] <ForgeAus> so that shouold be right
[14:39] <ForgeAus> still getting the error
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ardeshir: what graphics card do you have?
[14:41] <ardeshir> ActionParsnip: it's an old ati radeon, i think
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> !ati | ardeshir
[14:41] <ForgeAus> ardeshir do an lspci
[14:41] <ForgeAus> that should tell you what video card it is
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ardeshir: do NOT paste the whole thing in here
[14:42] <ardeshir> ForgeAus: yup, it's a Radeon 7000
[14:43] <ForgeAus> hehe mine is Radeon 9600 series
[14:43] <ForgeAus> I recommend if it works same way using AIGLX, MESA, etc. instead of the FireGL way assuming your card has those options
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ardeshir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers/ATI
[14:44] <AnKonst> hello
[14:44] <ForgeAus> actually the main ati driver includes radeon... you just need to get the xorg.conf right
[14:45] <ardeshir> I don't want any advanced options, I just want a decent screen
[14:45] <ardeshir> how come the default vesa driver doesn't support higher res?
[14:48] <daniftodi> #ro
[14:48] <daniftodi> #ro-ubuntu
[14:48] <Pici> daniftodi: /join #ubuntu-ro
[14:48] <s0101> is there any program for sony ericsson w880 for ubuntu i would like to flash it and change menus etc
[14:48] <daniftodi> hello
[14:49] <daniftodi> how install adobe photoshop cs3 ?
[14:49] <s0101> download the exe file and install it thru wine
[14:50] <s0101> sudo apt-get install wine
[14:50] <daniftodi> s0101 - XS++ 3.2 install witch wine
[14:50] <daniftodi> not work photoshop cs3 in wine
[14:51] <s0101> i am not sure
[14:54] <ardeshir> hi guys, I just edited a line in the xorg.conf file and now it works. thanks for the help!
[14:56] <s0101> how can i get som cool firmware?
[14:57] <Pici> Eh?
[14:57] <s0101> for sony ericsson w880 using xs++
[14:57] <Pici> Try ##hardware maybe, this doesn't really sound Kubuntu related.
[15:04] <daniftodi> microsoft office 2007 work witch wine?
[15:07] <tux`[afk]> hi i'm trying to install wifi, can somebody explain me where i can find the drivers for my card
[15:07] <tux`[afk]> Broadcom Corporation:BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[15:08] <jussi01> tux`[afk]: install ndisgtk
[15:08] <jussi01> !info ndisgtk
[15:08] <tux`[afk]> ok ty
[15:16] <corigo> I have one final hurdle to overcome before I can say goodbye to Windows forever. But it is a make or break issue for me. That is I can not get SKIM to allow me to type in Vietnamese VNI (or any other language for that matter). Please help
[15:53] <surgy> whats the defualt installation directory for ktorrent?
[15:55] <thefish> surgy: dpkg -L ktorrent will show you all the files it installed
[15:55] <thefish> (providing its from a deb)
[15:58] <surgy> thefish: thnx
[15:58] <thefish> np surgy
[16:15] <o0Chris0o> in konversation how do I set it up to auto ident? I thought I did it right but it doesnt work :(
[16:15] <o0Chris0o> under auto identify do I put /msg nickserv identify or just nickserv?
[16:16] <faileas> neither
[16:16] <faileas> just the password
[16:20] <o0Chris0o> then why does it have that option?
[16:20] <faileas> er...
[16:21] <faileas> auto ident assumes its /msg nickserv ;p
[16:21] <daniftodi> how run virtual machine on virtualbox?
[16:21] <o0Chris0o> odd
[16:21] <o0Chris0o> lol
[16:22] <daniftodi> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..
[16:22] <daniftodi> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[16:22] <daniftodi> Cod rezultat:
[16:22] <daniftodi> 0x80004005
[16:22] <daniftodi> Componentă:
[16:22] <daniftodi> Console
[16:22] <daniftodi> Interfaţă:
[16:22] <daniftodi> IConsole {1dea5c4b-0753-4193-b909-22330f64ec45}
[16:22] <faileas> daniftodi: use  pastebin next time you need to paste a load of text
[16:25] <o0Chris0o> daniftodi: try googlin' it if no one replies here, during the day, you wont get much inforomation..if your lucky :D everyone is either working or doing somethign else
[16:31] <samphippen> would you recommend kubuntu with kde4 for an end user?
[16:31] <o0Chris0o> keep in mind kde4 isn't feature rich yet, missing alot of features
[16:31] <o0Chris0o> !kde4
[16:32] <samphippen> lol
[16:32] <samphippen> missing features such as?
[16:33] <JoshOvki> is it just my firefox that broke after the last update or is it a wider issue?
[16:33] <o0Chris0o> many features, too many to list, check it out
[16:48] <DexterF> hi
[16:48] <DexterF> can someone tell me how to get japanese input on an otherwise english system?
[16:51] <cadafe> hi
[16:54] <patrickd_> When using KDE4, I add a folder to ~/Desktop and it appears on the desktop. How can I open it from the desktop, clicking on it doesn't seem to open it just brings up the "border" around the image of the folder.
[16:59] <voox> how do I disable compiz with kde4?
[17:09] <o0Chris0o> what are some good theme apps?
[17:11] <o0Chris0o> for compiz
[17:12] <jonathan__> hello! :)
[17:12] <jonathan__> does anybody know a good feedreader for kubuntu? :)
[17:12] <jonathan__> many functions would be nice!
[17:14] <thefish> jonathan__: check out Kontact - its an all-in-one pim with email, contact, calender etc as well as feed reader
[17:14] <jonathan__> hm
[17:14] <jonathan__> i know contact ;)
[17:15] <thefish> otherwise Akregator
[17:15] <thefish> thats the part that provides rss for kontact
[17:15] <jonathan__> thanks :)
[17:15] <thefish> :)
[17:15] <jonathan__> i think i will use kontact
[17:15] <jonathan__> hm
[17:15] <jonathan__> or is there a plugin for thunderbird?
[17:16] <thefish> doesnt tb have rss in core?
[17:17] <jonathan__> yes, thanks :)
[17:18] <jonathan__> I've never seen it before! :)
[17:24] <o0Chris0o> how do I get more screensavers besides the stock ones?
[17:24] <Pici> o0Chris0o: kscreensaver-xsavers-extra package for one
[17:26] <o0Chris0o> thanks Pici
[17:33] <swt> hi
[17:44] <corigo> I have one final hurdle to overcome before I can say goodbye to Windows forever. But it is a make or break issue for me. That is I can not get SKIM to allow me to type in Vietnamese VNI (or any other language for that matter).  But it is a make or break issue for me. That is I can not get SKIM to allow me to type in Vietnamese VNI (or any other language for that matter). Please help
[18:05] <Glady> what is that
[18:06] <Glady> it doesnt make any sense
[18:07] <Pici> corigo: Have you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM ?
[18:07] <thefish> Guest76835: its probably not a great idea being on irc as root :)
[18:08] <Glady> how come
[18:08] <Glady> it is easier to be hacked when u are root?
[18:09] <thefish> Glady its best not to do anything as root unless you need to, if something goes wrong, root will be allowed to do anything
[18:10] <Glady> ah
[18:10] <Glady> and they enter directly in ur root
[18:11] <Glady> I m lost
[18:13] <o0Chris0o> how do I stop korganizer from starting up each time I load  kontact?
[18:14] <Glady> oh
[18:14] <jochen> hi is it right that theses packages are not in the ubuntu repositories? ettercap, wireshark, dsniff?  Or do i have problems with my system?
[18:15] <jochen> i think that i had installed them on another system half a year ago.
[18:18] <jochen> oh i need to update apt again :?
[18:18] <jochen> strange
[18:20] <ibilicki> does anyone know if foobar2000 will ever be available for linux?
[18:20] <ibilicki> (not using wine)
[18:20] <Finswimmer> hello, is it possible to preload firefox?
[18:22] <ibilicki> Finswimmer: it does have a Work Offline mode... but I don't know how you would preload it with specific pages other than to visit them and then hope that they are in the cache
[18:23] <Glady> if u didnt delete them
[18:23] <Glady> they must be there
[18:24] <joshuajtl> is there no qsynaptics for hardy?
[18:24] <Finswimmer> ibilicki: no no. i have a very slow laptop. so i wanted to preload it at the boot (this will took longer then), but after booting the personal feel of starting firefox would be better
[18:25] <bobbo85> I can't get a hotkey shorcut to work, can anyone help me?  the button combo just has no response, is there a hotkey service I need to start or something?
[18:25] <NickPresta> Finswimmer, you may consider using a lighter weight browser if firefox takes too long to start up. Have you considered Konqueror?
[18:27] <Glady> it is started
[18:28] <Glady> just let it time
[18:28] <Glady> rusty
[18:29] <ibilicki> Finswimmer: have a look at http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/07/08/improve-application-startup-times-with-preload/
[18:29] <corigo> Pici: interesting link, not sure what it has to do with a pure Kubuntu HH install.
[18:30] <Glady> what is HH
[18:31] <Finswimmer> NickPresta: the laptop is not mine. i am just configuring it. and the real user does only know firefox. so it might be good to keep it simple for him
[18:31] <NickPresta> Finswimmer, ah okay.
[18:32] <fher> HOLA
[18:33] <Finswimmer> ibilicki: will preloed help even if the laptop only has 512mb ram? the laptopt swaps if i have just started and opened firefox for the first time
[18:34] <Ayabara> I want to remove all the kde4-apps I have installed. Can anyone help me do this?
[18:39] <NickPresta> Ayabara, I forget the 'best' way to do but removing kde4-core and kdm-kde4 should remove the bulk of the kde4 packages
[18:45] <grendal_prime> i want to fire up konqueror file browser as sudo root...
[18:45] <grendal_prime> ksudo konqueror??
[18:46] <grendal_prime> whats the application thingy that allows sudo withen kde.
[18:46] <NickPresta> rezende, kdesu konqueror
[18:46] <NickPresta> grendal_prime, sorry
[18:46] <grendal_prime> cool thanks
[18:47] <grendal_prime> that did the trick
[18:47] <NickPresta> be careful when running as root
[18:59] <mkrahmeh> gksudo
[19:00] <mkrahmeh> gksudo application_name
[19:00] <mkrahmeh> for running GUI apps as root
[19:04] <o0Chris0o> why does my remote computer on my LAN ask for username and pass to delete files?
[19:10] <erikja> !Konsole
[19:10] <lisa_> aiuto
[19:17] <kanothmist> hi
[19:19] <kanothmist> I need help installing my intel graphic driver
[19:22] <kanothmist> can i get some help
[19:27] <kanothmist> any one here
[19:27] <genii> kanothmist: Yes, people are here.
[19:28] <oobe> kanothmist, what seems to be the problem
[19:28] <oobe> kanothmist, what chipset are u using
[19:28] <genii> kanothmist: There shouold be no need to install drivers for Intel based video cards
[19:28] <kanothmist> I need to up date it
[19:28] <oobe> yes but he needs to add the correct module it in xorg.conf
[19:29] <oobe> why do you need to update it
[19:29] <kanothmist> Play second life and having issues
[19:30] <oobe> do you have  xserver-xorg-video-intel  installed
[19:32] <ja1> Hi! I just installed Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 amd64. It sure looks nice, but there is graphics bugs when moving windows, opening dropdown menus etc, and also the system hangs from time to time. What could be wrong? Should I try Gnome at 64 bit or should I go for a 32 bit system, putting the power of 64 aside?
[19:32] <kanothmist> how do i check that on that oobe
[19:33] <oobe> aptitude search xserver-xorg-video-intel
[19:34] <oobe> anyway im guessing you are probably using vesa and you just need to tell xorg to use intel drivers
[19:34] <oobe> google intel xorg.conf
[19:35] <oobe> and if you dont have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed install it
[19:36] <oobe> jal i always end up with a 32 bit install
[19:36] <oobe> its never worth the small annoyances compared to the 30% perfamance gain
[19:36] <oobe> the buggy graphics you are refering to are possible nothing to do with 64
[19:37] <oobe> you should maybe try changing your window decorator settings or try using qt
[19:41] <kanothmist> oobe mind if i PM you for help
[19:42] <oobe> i dont mind but theres no garantee i can help
[19:42] <kanothmist> ok one sec
[19:42] <ja1> oobe: Yeah, removing the graphix effects solved the problem. I guess I have a generic driver for the onboard gfx card.
[19:43] <oobe> jal what card do you use
[19:43] <kanothmist> if any one can help me me update my intel graphic card PM me
[19:44] <oobe> kanothmist, you really need to be more specific with your question
[19:45] <oobe> what does it say that you are using in you xorg.conf
[19:45] <oobe> type this " cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"
[19:46] <oobe> without qoutes
[19:46] <kanothmist> i810
[19:46] <oobe> sounds like you are already using intel driver
[19:46] <oobe> im sorry i cant really help you
[19:47] <oobe> try this at your own risk
[19:47] <oobe>  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[19:47] <oobe> sorry wrong paste
[19:47] <oobe> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[19:48] <kanothmist> I have done that
[19:48] <oobe> you already been to that site
[19:49] <oobe> maybe you need to change a few things in your xorg.conf
[19:50] <oobe> ok im going to bed good luck with all that
[19:52] <kanothmist> how do i find out the version ov my graphics driver
[20:01] <tre-bone> Народ Прет)
[20:03] <kanothmist> be back later
[20:05] <apatride> red and black force
[20:05] <Tm_T> apatride: erm?
[20:05] <apatride> ?
[20:06] <Tm_T> apatride: what you're saying?
[20:06] <apatride> french speak
[20:09] <faisal_> how to get to know which version of Kde is installed on my system?
[20:14] <ja1> (finally gvim running)
[20:16] <kanothmist> I have downloaded xf86-video-intel-2.4.2 and having trobul install it
[20:21] <Denise> psychic
[20:21] <Denise> telepathy
[20:22] <Denise> sorry
[20:23] <Denise> I m lost
[20:23] <NickPresta> Denise, where are you looking to go?
[20:24] <Denise> meeting of dolphins
[20:24] <NickPresta> Marine Land is that way ->
[20:24] <ghostcube> oO
[20:26] <DexterF> hi.
[20:26] <DexterF> i just attempted to compile some src.
[20:26] <NickPresta> hey DexterF
[20:26] <DexterF> cpu went up to 100, system effectively came to a halt and it munsched away mem till other apps failed (kmail, browsers and such) on a 4gig machine
[20:26] <DexterF> what the hell?
[20:27] <NickPresta> DexterF, what are you trying to compile?
[20:27] <DexterF> tomoe, a japanese signs drawing app
[20:27] <kanothmist> I have downloaded xf86-video-intel-2.4.2 and having trouble install it
[20:28] <NickPresta> kanothmist, what are you having trouble with?
[20:28] <NickPresta> DexterF, what procedure did you use to compile it? and have you tried getting in contact with the developer?
[20:29] <kanothmist> trying to get it to the module compiled and installed
[20:30] <RurouniJones> kanothmist: What program? I am intrigued
[20:30] <NickPresta> kanothmist, is there a reason you need that version?
[20:30] <RurouniJones> gah, sorry, wrong person
[20:31] <RurouniJones> DexterF: What program you trying to compile?
[20:31] <RurouniJones> It sounds interesting to me so I might have a go and see if it screws up for me
[20:31] <kanothmist> I play Second Life and it needs the newest driver
[20:32] <DexterF> NickPresta: i untarred the tarball , ran ./configure and make of course
[20:32] <NickPresta> kanothmist, okay. well, check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=907524
[20:32] <DexterF> make -j8 in the second try, dual core cpu. no good either
[20:32] <kanothmist> thanks
[20:33] <DexterF> RurouniJones: tomoe. see above
[20:33] <NickPresta> DexterF, what errors does make spit out?
[20:34] <DexterF> NickPresta: it doesn't. the entire terminal dies due to lack of memory
[20:34] <NickPresta> DexterF, oh strange.
[20:34] <DexterF> as I said: 4gigs (64b)
[20:34] <DexterF> looks like a mem leak to me
[20:34] <NickPresta> is this the tomoe-gtk or just the regular tomoe package?
[20:35] <DexterF> regular tomoe
[20:35] <DexterF> gtk would be next
[20:35] <RurouniJones> Ahsorry DexterF. Thought tomoe was someone you were talking to ;)
[20:36] <NickPresta> DexterF, okay. I am going to quickly check the tomoe wiki and then I will try compiling it...
[20:39] <RurouniJones> DexterF: Which tomoe package you trying to install? the base of with scim?
[20:42] <RurouniJones> Heh, can't even get that far, I get an error on the make command. No time to look into it. Gotta sleep
[20:42] <NickPresta> yeah. I get that too.
[20:43] <NickPresta> I have to get ready for class too so I can't dissect the makefile now, sorry
[20:43] <DexterF> crashes with error? what error?
[20:44] <RurouniJones> http://pastie.org/278858
[20:46] <DexterF> hm, no, I get a good deal further. till gcc starts doing stuff.
[20:47] <RurouniJones> I am probably missing something on my system.
[20:48] <RurouniJones> Well, good luck.
[20:52] <volker_> Hi, is there a channel for ubuntu eee?
[20:52] <mikz> is any good with mysql and php, i have an issue connecting to one of my databases?
[20:56] <mdr> IIRC, When I installed Dapper the Kubuntu install  auto put /home in a separate partition.  Hardy has put everything on one big partition. (ext3).  Is this a good idea?  Doesn't this lead to extra fragmentation?
[20:58] <mschnee> ext3 doesn't really suffer from "fragmentation" the way ntfs/fat32 do
[20:59] <DexterF> WTF? I got konsole from kub over X with ssh -X, after that the local kde is fscked up
[20:59] <DexterF> dcop bitching, no kicker, no kwin,...
[21:03] <o0Chris0o> how do I burn an iso image using   k3b? I downloaded the the latest intrepid and when I click on it, and put in a blank cd, it don't read it
[21:03] <DexterF> solved
[21:04] <DexterF> wrong session, tmp cruft
[21:05] <jagguli> hi guys and gals ...  a quick question ... which package has glxinfo
[21:06] <jagguli> anyone ??
[21:07] <jagguli> got it ... mesa-utils ...
[21:09] <DexterF> jagguli: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:14] <mdr> Also, shouldn't I have a swap partition?
[21:17] <mdr> How do I determine if (A) a swap partition exists and (B) create and enable it's missing and  I need it?
[21:18] <Denise> why a swap partition
[21:18] <Denise> okay
[21:18] <Denise> as a brain
[21:21] <chupakabra> ббббббббббббуууууууууууу
[21:22] <chupakabra> эй бла
[21:22] <mdr> Nevermind, I have a swap and it's enabled.   The proper GUI place to check for this System Settings | Advanced --> disk and file systems
[21:22] <chupakabra> а чо де русские все, педы э)
[21:22] <mdr> kubuntu rocks :)
[21:23] <Daisuke_Ido> chupakabra__: english only, if you have a question ask it, if not, please don't disrupt
[21:23] <Denise> what is that scripting
[21:23] <Daisuke_Ido> it's cyrillic, likely russian
[21:23] <chupakabra__> awrrrr russian forever, gays) bb)
[21:24] <Denise> oh
[21:24] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, officially a troll.
[21:26] <chupakabra__> not a troll, just a beer with vodka & balalaika
[21:33] <dr_willis> Somehow I burnt a data disk with k3b. and it shows 3.5 gb used.. but vista shows theres no files on the disk, but under linux they are there. - What did i do strange - so i dont do it again in the future. :)
[21:34] <Denise> I thought u were the specialist
[21:34] <Denise> dr_willis
[21:35] <dr_willis> ive burnt 100s of dvds under k3b - and never seen this happen befor.
[21:35] <dr_willis> wondering if its some udf vs iso vs some other filsysytem differances
[21:36] <Denise> omg
[21:36] <Denise> u checked the vjs tpl .config/apt/.deb?
[21:48] <ibilicki> does anyone have a wireless network adapter for a desktop? I want to buy one which will work easily in linux
[21:48] <asdfwee> i bought an atheros based device
[21:49] <asdfwee> works perfect
[21:49] <asdfwee> pci card
[21:49] <genii> My D-Link DWL-G630 worked out of box (PCMCIA)
[21:49] <genii> Also Atheros
[21:50] <asdfwee> http://www.atheros.com/
[21:51] <ibilicki> what about d-link and linksys... I am ordering from dell, they don't have atheros
[21:53] <Daisuke_Ido> linksys has traditionally been ralink based, i believe
[21:53] <Daisuke_Ido> not entirely sure about d-link
[21:54] <ibilicki> I might just get it separately from a store
[21:59] <argento> what package do i have to install to see apps with correct theme... im using ubuntu and i used gnome and some apps look guffy
[22:01] <argento> no idea about that?
[22:02] <asdfwee> ibilicki: if you order from dell
[22:02] <asdfwee> ibilicki: you can ask them @ support - they have this chat support where you can chat with an employee
[22:02] <Daisuke_Ido> argento: clarify that?  you're using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[22:03] <asdfwee> ibilicki: you can ask them if the network card works on linux
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> because ubuntu IS gnome
[22:03] <argento> ubuntu
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> or rather, gnome is the default desktop environment under ubuntu
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, so it's using gnome's themes
[22:03] <argento> im using ubuntu... and installed kubuntu-desktop
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> there's no "correct"
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> so you're using kde now
[22:03] <argento> yeah
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> and gnome apps look bad
[22:03] <argento> yes...
[22:04] <argento> like with default gnome theme
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> go into system settings > appearance
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> go to the gtk themes section and set that to your liking
[22:04] <argento> k...
[22:05] <argento> mmmmmmmmmm
[22:05] <argento> i dont see any gtk tab
[22:06] <skole> Hi! I only have 2.1 GB disc space left. How to free disc space?
[22:07] <Daisuke_Ido> skole: start with apt-get clean
[22:07] <skole> What does that do?
[22:07] <Daisuke_Ido> cleans out the package cache
[22:08] <argento> skole, it cleans temp files of apt-get install
[22:08] <argento> Daisuke_Ido, no idea?
[22:08] <Daisuke_Ido> argento: i'm not sure what package handles gtk themes :\
[22:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i would have sworn that at one time, there was an option for gtk themes in kcontrol
[22:09] <ibilicki> asdfwee: yeah... right... I don't think they have a clue about htat
[22:09] <ibilicki> asdfwee: but I'll try
[22:09] <argento> Daisuke_Ido, i think i saw it too, but somehow its not present on my kcontrol
[22:09] <skole> One thing that I do not understand is that my root folder says that it contains 27 GB, but when  I open it all the folders are much less. The numbers don't add up. Why?
[22:10] <o0Chris0o> skole: could be the hidden system files
[22:10] <gm04030276> skole: do a du --si / to see what all the folders are using
[22:10] <o0Chris0o> if your viewing the folders through dolphin go to view then click on show hidden files
[22:12] <skole> gm04030276 what is a du --si?
[22:17] <gm04030276> skole: it shows disc usage. The --si part puts it in human readable form, so MB, GB etc instead of just bytes
[22:17] <gm04030276> then the / means show it from your root file system
[22:20] <skole> It never stops!
[22:21] <gm04030276> just pours stuff up the screen?
[22:21] <skole> yes
[22:21] <gm04030276> just hit ctrl-c
[22:22] <gm04030276> im sure there is some why to get it to just show that one directory... and not go recursivly.
[22:22] <skole> But what should I look for?
[22:23] <gm04030276> yea, try sudo du --si --max-depth=1 /
[22:23] <gm04030276> thats a good question :)
[22:25] <gm04030276> there is this great program for mac called omnidisksweeper that shows you the size of every file and folder and puts them in order from biggest to smallest in a column view going down through the file system. Anyone know of something similar for linux?
[22:25] <ubuntu> hi everybody
[22:26] <ubuntu> i use live cd now
[22:26] <mikz> trying test connection to one of my database and i get following error: "Warning: mysql_field_table(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in..." any help?
[22:26] <gm04030276> skole: that could be a fun little project for me next if there isn't one
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> gm04030276: filelight
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> gui-based
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> but does what you're looking for
[22:26] <gm04030276> mikz: its not connecting properly. any other information?
[22:27] <ubuntu> whats this kubuntu's web browser?
[22:27] <ubuntu> konquerer?
[22:27] <gm04030276> skole: Daisuke_Ido: Thanks; There you go, try filelight
[22:28] <skole> I am running out of disc space right as we speak.. Do I have a virus or something?
[22:28] <gm04030276> ubuntu: yes konquerer is kubuntu's default web browser...though it may have firefox on the live cd aswell, im not sure
[22:28] <dwidmann> dr_willis: First place I would check would be in the window after you clicked burn, the filesystem tab ... should be an option for "filesystem presets"
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> skole: i'm willing to guess that no, you don't have a virus
[22:28] <ubuntu> no there is no firefox
[22:28] <ubuntu> kubuntu has any problem with Ati?
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> did you execute any commands via a terminal recently?
[22:28] <ubuntu> i installed ubuntu and pardus :S
[22:28] <mikz> well i have another database which does connect when i run the same query. This is the full error:"Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /var/www/apache2-default/query.php on line 7"
[22:29] <gm04030276> skole: maybe, i've seen that happen on my mac twice...it tended to be that something was coping from somewhere to somewhere else.
[22:29] <ubuntu> when i installed ati driver then couldnt open systems again
[22:29] <dwidmann> dr_willis: windows should be able to hanlde anything but "linux/unix only" I would think
[22:29] <skole> But why have I lost 0,3 GB without doing anything?
[22:29] <gm04030276> mikz: its not finding the data associated with the query you are trying to run
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> gm04030276: there's always the possibility that someone gave him a malicious command to recursively create files or append junk data to a file
[22:30] <gm04030276> mikz: if you can try running the command in phpmyadmin...it sometimes gives better error messages
[22:30] <ubuntu> well no comment about ati drivers?
[22:31] <mikz> i use the follow connect string: "$db = mysql_connect("localhost");"
[22:31] <ubuntu> kubuntu has problem with ati?
[22:31] <gm04030276> Daisuke_Ido: yea. could be.
[22:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !ati | ubuntu
[22:31] <Daisuke_Ido> or not :\
[22:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: check the forums, i don't know much about ati
[22:32] <gm04030276> mikz: you need to add a username and password aswell (at least i always have...)
[22:32] <ubuntu> hmm ok
[22:33] <gm04030276> mikz: what mysql_connect() statement do you use when it does work to the other database?
[22:33] <mikz> how do i do that (sorry i'm new to php and mysql)
[22:34] <gm04030276> mikz: $db = mysql(<server>, <username>, <password>);
[22:34] <gm04030276> mikz: its ok, i was new to it a few years ago to :)
[22:35] <gm04030276> mikz: do you use phpmyadmin?
[22:35] <ubuntu> ubottu: thnx
[22:36] <dwidmann> !bot ubuntu
[22:36] <ubuntu> ubottu: i am just afraid :S i tried ubuntu and pardus but after install driver then i couldnt open X again
[22:36] <dwidmann> !bot | ubuntu
[22:38] <mikz> nope i first used phpmyadmin to create the first test database which was fine, then i created another one same way and i couldn't see the new database unless i type in mysql -u root -p and then login to see the new database i created and since then when i run the same query it works for the first but not for the databases i created after
[22:38] <dr_willis> dwidmann upon farther research.. it seems in fact that windows does NOT handle 'udf' type dvd filesystems or least not all kinds of them
[22:39] <dr_willis> dwidmann i just installed somthing from nero's web site i think that will let vista read it.. but of course. it wants to reboot...
[22:39] <dr_willis> so that will wait a bit.
[22:39] <dwidmann> dr_willis: oh, that's fun
[22:39] <dr_willis> aparently MS also has its own 'udf' format/standard it uses.
[22:40] <dwidmann> dr_willis: and that's about ______ typical.
[22:40] <gm04030276> mikz: ok, your better to create a new user with less permissions that root and with a password! phpmyadmin makes this easy. If you login to it as root on the first page there is a privileges option
[22:40] <dr_willis> aparently MS's udf filesystem they use has a hard time getting read under some linux's also
[22:40] <dr_willis> so i guess the moral is.. dont use udf unless you have to.
[22:41] <dwidmann> dr_willis: sounds like the universal format isn't.
[22:41] <gm04030276> mikz: click on that and you can create a user and/or modify root to have a password. If this is just a testing learning system for home its not that important but if you ever start doing it professionally you will need to be more secure!
[22:41] <dr_willis> dwidmann thats an EXACT comment from the forums/threads i am reading. :)
[22:42] <dwidmann> dr_willis: that's freaky ... and funny
[22:42] <dr_willis> people in the threads seem to think 'udf = the feature ms invented to use a dvd/cd/cd-rw/dvd-rw as a big floppy disk'
[22:42] <gm04030276> mikz: you can just try mysql_connect("localhost", "root"); for now if you want (no need to enter the password parameter because root doesn't have one...unless you make on in which case put it in! :) )
[22:44] <dr_willis> brb
[22:44] <dwidmann> Guess doc decided to do that reboot then.
[22:54] <NullName> With ubuntu running vsftpd, is it true that users outside the LAN will get faster dw/up speeds than with running ssh as a server??
[22:54] <NullName> nv
[22:55] <dr_willis> ssh has a bit more overhead due to the encryption
[22:55] <dr_willis> but its more secure  i guess.. so its a trade off.
[22:55] <Schuenemann> hey, how is the support for the ATI M72 graphic card?
[23:03] <skole> how to stop nautilus?
[23:03] <dr_willis> the gnome file manager?  you can kill the pid of the task i guess
[23:05] <dr_willis> wowsers.. my 'pipe'  key is no longer workin.. neither is the right brace/bracket... weird
[23:05] <dr_willis> and this is my Fav Keyboard!
[23:05] <gm04030276> skole: killall nautilus
[23:09] <skole> I have deleted a vital file I guess. Now I cant open any thing'
[23:10] <skole> KLauncher could not lauch via DCOP
[23:12] <snova> do the kde4 applications clash with the kde3 ones? like if i install kwrite-kde4, is this going to want to replace the kde3 version? or is it named differently?
[23:15] <dr_willis> they had different names, but i think they are undergoing some changes for the next release
[23:15] <dr_willis> at one time you would have 2 icons in the menus, one for the kde3, one for the kde4  program
[23:19] <will_> I'm thinking of switching from ubuntu to kubuntu.  Is there anything I should know,  would want to know,  or just plain need to know.
[23:20] <Schuenemann> will_, you could try it
[23:21] <will_> true
[23:21] <Schuenemann> then you'll know if you like it and that's what matters
[23:21] <rickest> will_: you don't even have to reinstall, you can just 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and 'apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop' if you don't want to keep both
[23:22] <will_> looking for a diffrent perspective.  Maybe that of a long time kde user
[23:22] <coreymon77> will_: nothing in particular that you need to know, our suggestion is to just try it and see what you think
[23:23] <will_> Ok I think I will do that, thank you all
[23:24] <Schuenemann> does anyone know how is the support for the ATI M72 graphic card?
[23:27] <adam> lol
[23:27] <adam> i think KDE sucks
[23:28] <coreymon77> wow, troll
[23:40] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[23:41] <FuriousGeorge> i have a ps2->usb adapter, which only works in gentoo.  in gentoo usbhid is built into kernel, in kubuntu it is an external module
[23:41] <FuriousGeorge> coincidentally the mouse half of the adapter works fine in either distro
[23:41] <kinte> anyone know how to stop k3b from automatically opening when inserting a DVD?
[23:41] <FuriousGeorge> its just they keyboard that wont work under *buntu\
[23:49] <CooLEs> hey u all who knows kubuntu
[23:49] <CooLEs> :S
[23:49] <CooLEs> how i ca install graphic driver?
[23:50] <CooLEs> here no one for help me?
[23:50] <CooLEs> :(
[23:53] <suleyman> hi all
[23:53] <suleyman> someone knows how to install ?
[23:54] <suleyman> how to install ati graphich driver
[23:55] <Dragnslcr> !ati
[23:55] <dr_willis> depends on the exact card. Normally one uses that restricted-manager/hardware-manager tool   - and let it download/install the proper drivers
[23:56] <dr_willis> BUT if the card is very new. the drivers in the repos may not support it.
[23:58] <suleyman> i looked there but couldnt understand anything:S


[03:45] <Sarvatt> this looks real promising - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26980#c25 :(
[03:45] <ubot4> Freedesktop bug 26980 in Driver/nouveau "GT230M or GT218 with nouveau: X server hangs spontaneously" [Normal,New]
[14:22] <hyperair> Sarvatt: mesa 7.9.0+git20100722.c686ee0f-0ubuntu0sarvatt~lucid has some rather interesting effects with compiz on. it seems that the windows just don't update.
[14:36] <RAOF> hyperair: Yeah, and it has a tendency to crash X on radeon.
[14:36] <hyperair> RAOF: ooh fun.
[14:37] <RAOF> Although that's the same with 7.8.1.
[14:37] <hyperair> heh
[15:39] <Sarvatt> same here hyperair
[15:39] <Sarvatt> tried 723 yet?
[15:43] <Sarvatt> 20100723 is fine here, guess it was the glx locking stuff
[15:54] <hyperair> Sarvatt: hmm no i haven't.


[12:47] <rick_h__> https://github.com/skammer/vim-css-color kind of cool
[12:47] <rick_h__> I hit a bug, but not killer
[13:10] <wolfger> rick_h__:  I know you've been waiting for this... http://www.linux-mag.com/id/8705/?hq_e=el&hq_m=1252182&hq_l=10&hq_v=1058112737
[13:12] <rick_h__>    /ignore wolfger
[13:12] <wolfger> LOL
[13:12] <wolfger> harsh
[13:13] <rick_h__> :P
[13:13] <wolfger> If it's on the command line, it's got to be good, right?
[13:15]  * rick_h__ looks at emacs and wonders
[13:16] <greg-g> you know.....
[13:17] <greg-g> the event listing itself is pretty nice. I wanted something like that a while ago.  But no, I have birthdays on Gcal for people I've never requested birthdays of.
[13:41] <greg-g> wolfger: interesting
[13:41] <rick_h__> greg-g: yea, you need a phone upgrade so you can use bookie mobile
[13:41] <rick_h__> :P
[13:43] <brousch> no symbian love for greg-g?
[13:44] <greg-g> :) I need a phone upgrade for my own sanity sometimes
[13:44] <rick_h__> well _stink_ tried it in symbian with little love
[13:56] <brousch> rick_h__: oostendorp seems like a nice guy. i didn't know he was involved early on with slashdot
[13:57] <rick_h__> brousch: yea, I didn't know when I first heard/etc.
[13:58] <rick_h__> but funny how small circles the world spins in
[13:58] <jjesse> nate oostendorp?
[13:58] <brousch> yes
[13:58] <jjesse> i've met him before, can't remember where nice guy
[13:58] <brousch> he presented at grpug last night
[13:59] <brousch> he has a lot of holland connections
[13:59] <brousch> went to Hope
[14:00] <greg-g> what do you think of the Ingenuitas idea?
[14:01] <brousch> it is interesting. i have no idea if it's viable
[14:01] <greg-g> yeah
[14:01] <rick_h__> I think they need a new website with some less horrible fonts :P
[14:02] <greg-g> yeah, when I mentioned the font issue he was like "Firefox? who uses that anymore?"
[14:02] <rick_h__> heh, I'm in Chrome
[14:02] <rick_h__> and I still think it's pretty horrible fonts to read
[14:02] <greg-g> maybe it is a Mac vs Linux thing?
[14:03] <rick_h__> meh, he's picked very thin fonts for display
[14:03] <greg-g> but either way, the people who he has to sell the idea to will be running WinXP+IE7
[14:03] <rick_h__> this league-gothic font
[14:03] <rick_h__> I like the glyphish-web bold though
[14:04] <_stink_> hah, the fonts are bad
[14:04] <_stink_> and i'm someone who doesn't care about fonts
[14:04] <rick_h__> lol
[14:08] <greg-g> the fonts being bad are ironic, given it is a computer vision thing
[14:44] <wolfger> Hey, it's Mr. Con Chair 2012, tjagoda!
[14:44] <jjesse> he's the chairman of a convention on conventions?
[14:45] <brousch> it will be a blackberry-centric convention!
[14:45] <brousch> bbpads for all!
[14:45] <wolfger> woot!
[14:45] <tjagoda> ..you're all paying double.
[14:45] <tjagoda> =P
[14:46] <wolfger> It's worth it, to get to harrass you. :-)
[14:47] <wolfger> Allison was talking about you last night. She says you're turning into Jer...
[14:47] <wolfger> I don't know where that came from.
[14:49] <tjagoda> Might have been the series of enraged tweets fueled by the public phonetalker who was in line next to me in subway
[14:50] <tjagoda> Or it's just the slowly accumulating IT frustration venting =P
[15:28] <wolfger> That as a ring to it... "SAIFS: Slowly Accumulating IT Frustration Syndrome"
[15:29] <wolfger> lot of potential wordplays, too. "He's playing it SAIF" or "SAIFty first"
[15:36] <tjagoda> SAIF
[15:36] <tjagoda> That would make an excellent website..
[15:37]  * tjagoda godaddy's
[15:37] <tjagoda> damn
[15:37] <tjagoda> saif.com is taken
[15:37] <tjagoda> =(
[15:40] <tjagoda> SAIF.org is godaddy held though
[15:40] <tjagoda> I will make millions.
[15:40] <tjagoda> And host the site on IIS for irony.
[15:42] <wolfger> LOL
[15:43] <wolfger> You know you must do it.
[15:43] <brousch> iis3 on win98
[15:47] <wolfger> I think that would be for Rapidly Accumulating IT Frustration
[15:47] <wolfger> or, rather, Rapidly Accumulating IT Pain.... RAIP
[15:48] <tjagoda> ESET Smart Security just detected bad broadcom drivers
[15:48] <tjagoda> wow
[15:49] <tjagoda> Their teamed together, and it was able to realize that the driver was letting both MAC addresses show over the network
[15:49] <tjagoda> Nicely done ESET
[15:49] <tjagoda> Symantec didn't even scan for that shit
[15:49] <tjagoda> =P
[16:21] <brousch> http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/17/life-with-ubuntu-and.html "The problem with writing about switching to Ubuntu is that there's very little to report on, because it is just about the least dramatic operating system I've used"
[16:21] <brousch> no drama eh?
[16:30] <tjagoda> He must not be on 11.04 yet
[16:30] <tjagoda> =P
[16:35] <tjagoda> Why did we ever have to move away from gnome 2?
[16:36] <brousch> progress!
[16:37] <tjagoda> There are so many things I miss about gnome 2
[16:37] <tjagoda> I feel like progress shouldn't make me yearn for the old stuff =(
[16:40] <brousch> you are becoming an old man
[16:41] <brousch> the first sign of old age is voluntary use of a blackberry. the second sign is yearning for the good old  days
[16:42] <tjagoda> This saddens me
[16:42] <tjagoda> Symantec has no built-in remote uninstaller
[16:42] <jjesse> what symantec product?
[16:42]  * jjesse is a symantec consultant
[16:43] <tjagoda> Endpoint Protection
[16:43] <tjagoda> v11 I think
[16:44] <jjesse> you want to uninstall via the msi?
[16:44] <jjesse> you should be able to pass msiexec /X (i think it is X to remove)
[16:44] <tjagoda> I was hoping it's convenient deployment console would have a big "uninstall client" option
[16:44] <jjesse> oh
[16:44] <jjesse> i don't think it does
[16:44] <brousch> just ssh in and apt-get uninstall it
[16:44] <tjagoda> It does not
[16:44] <tjagoda> Obvious answer: Why would anybody ever want to leave symantec? =P
[16:45] <jjesse> nice :)
[16:45] <tjagoda> ESET provides it as an option
[16:45] <tjagoda> I can both remotely install and uninstall any version
[16:46] <jjesse> in all wisdom they decided not to i guess :)
[16:46] <tjagoda> \o/
[16:46] <tjagoda> brb reboot
[16:55] <wolfger> LOL. tjagoda sounds like I used to re: KDE3
[16:58] <brousch> rick_h__: i bought that mobile web ebook yesterday too
[17:30] <snap-l> Good afternoon. :)
[17:33] <wolfger> he lives!
[17:40] <snap-l> Heh
[18:16] <rick_h__> no he doesn't, that's my new snap-l bot.
[18:16] <rick_h__> works well doesn't it :)
[18:16] <jjesse> just as good as snap-l does
[18:18] <wolfger> Let me test it...
[18:18] <wolfger> seatbelts suck
[18:18] <wolfger> Nickleback rules!
[18:18] <wolfger> everything should be programmed in Java
[18:18] <rick_h__> crap, you caused it to crash
[18:18] <rick_h__> I'll have to reboot it now
[18:18] <wolfger> XD
[18:30] <snap-l> Good morning
[18:30] <rick_h__> there we go, reboot worked
[18:31] <snap-l> So, how about that [Javascript Linux emulator]
[18:31] <rick_h__> meh, I could go better :P
[18:31] <snap-l> That looks [really cool]
[18:32] <snap-l> I just picked up [Diablo Swing Orchestra] on [CD], and it is awesome.
[18:32] <snap-l> Listen to my podcast [http://openmetalcast.com]
[18:33] <snap-l> Nickelback sucks
[18:34] <rick_h__> so how was the trip?
[18:34] <greg-g> and now it is gone :( http://www.archive.org/details/XavierRudd
[18:35] <rick_h__> :(
[18:35] <rick_h__> poor greg-g
[18:35] <rick_h__> so what's up with the removal? I've not really followed archive.org and such
[18:35] <greg-g> luckily I download 8 shows last night, but still :(
[18:36] <snap-l> greg-g: That's crap
[18:36] <snap-l> rick_h__: It was very good. Relaxing. :)
[18:36] <snap-l> Had a great time, got to do some sight-seeing
[18:36] <snap-l> saw the cass river rising, and taking lots of driftwood
[18:36] <rick_h__> yea, some good pics came back
[18:36] <snap-l> and had much beer and gin & tonics. ;)
[18:36] <greg-g> well, the long and the short: Xavier Rudd is a jam-band kinda musician. His fans started tapping his shows, and archive.org has a "Live Music Archive" section for live recordings from musicians who allow it. Xavier's old management did. Yesterday his new management revoked the permission, so everything was deleted, even though at the time it was fine.
[18:37] <rick_h__> ah ic
[18:37] <rick_h__> sucky
[18:37] <snap-l> greg-g: It's their wishes.
[18:37] <greg-g> yeah, a blog post is forthcoming
[18:37] <snap-l> Unfortunately, it's contradictory to the ethos of the scene
[18:37] <snap-l> even Primus doesn't have a problem with tapers.
[18:38] <greg-g> wow
[18:38] <snap-l> Along with Medeski, Martin and Wood, Ozric Tentacles...
[18:38] <snap-l> at least, when I was following Legal Torrents, they didn't
[18:39]  * greg-g nods
[18:39] <snap-l> Of course, there was also a shit-ton more String Cheese Incident than anything
[18:39] <snap-l> blergh
[18:39] <greg-g> haha
[18:39] <greg-g> the price we pay
[18:39] <snap-l> Yeah, much like the Free Music Archive metal section
[18:40] <snap-l> Really need a "you must not be this high to submit your music"
[18:42] <snap-l> I'm having a discussion with a band about their next album not being released CC licensed.
[18:42] <snap-l> trying to convince them that CC != free of cost.
[18:43] <snap-l> There's still some work to do in that regard with artists.
[18:45]  * greg-g nods
[19:23] <wolfger> CNN hurts my brain.
[19:23] <snap-l> News reporting in general hurts by brain
[19:23] <wolfger> I did not really need to know that Schwarzenegar's love child is the most popular story right now
[19:24] <snap-l> I think they went from an 8th grade level to a 3rd grade level in the past few years.
[19:24] <snap-l> wolfger: Did they get the Twitter's reaction?
[19:24] <wolfger> also, the news of Seth McFarlane "rebooting" The Flintstones.... nothing good can come of that.
[19:24] <wolfger> snap-l: they may have. I'm avoiding the story
[19:24]  * snap-l gets my gun.
[19:25] <wolfger> especially now that I see it's #1 on "newspulse"
[19:25] <snap-l> Rebooting the Flintstones? Seriously?
[19:25] <wolfger> seriously
[19:25] <wolfger> that story I did read
[19:25] <wolfger> because I was hoping the headline was misleading
[19:25] <snap-l> Wel, that's one more fuck-fest of a show that I won't watch.
[19:27] <wolfger> I still don't know how Seth got two more shows after the inconsistent mess that The Family Guy was/is
[19:27] <rick_h__> http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?lid=4984247,2147714,1850147&auto
[19:27] <snap-l> I mean, I'm not much of a fan of the Flinstones to begin with, but frankly Seth McFarlane is not funny
[19:27] <wolfger> I watch Family Guy from time to time, to pick little nuggets of brilliance out of the feces.
[19:28] <snap-l> randomness != funny
[19:28] <wolfger> but it's rare that one entire episode is funny
[19:28] <snap-l> wolfger: That's like picking up horseshit to get a bale of hay.
[19:28] <snap-l> rick_h__: Nice!
[19:28] <rick_h__> except the star wars...those are some funny things
[19:29] <brousch> screw you guys. i love family guy and american dad, and i even watch cleveland
[19:29] <snap-l> brousch: How was the lobotomy?
[19:30] <snap-l> To be fair, it does have it's moments
[19:30] <snap-l> but most of the time I've watched it, I've come to agree with South Park's assessment
[19:30] <snap-l> manatee's and all.
[19:31] <snap-l> I know Neil Peart likes it, so it can't be all that bad. ;)
[19:31] <jjesse> brousch you maybe the only one i know who likes cleveland show
[19:31] <wolfger> rick_h__: that site is crap.  IT's useful.
[19:32] <wolfger> Hah! It can't even find Detroit, MI
[19:32] <wolfger> At last, Detroit's irrelevence is complete
[19:33] <brousch> i need mindless TV before i go to bed to help me unwind
[19:33] <snap-l> When I left you, you were a metropolis, now you're 750,000
[19:33] <Milyardo> Detriot? Never heard of it!
[19:33] <brousch> de-troit? is that in france?
[19:34] <Milyardo> 750k? That sounds alot better than what happened to Baltimore
[19:34] <snap-l> I don't remember the last count
[19:34] <snap-l> but let's just say, the census folks were getting prodded pretty hard to get accurate counts.
[19:35] <wolfger> oh, odd. If I type Detroit, it finds it. If I type Michigan, it lists Detroit. If I type Detroit, Michigan.... nothing
[19:36] <snap-l> Didn't you hear? The US returned Detroit to Canada as defective.
[19:36] <wolfger> nice website with a crap search feature, and a list of cities that needs help
[19:36] <snap-l> wolfger: Settle down, Beavis.
[19:37] <wolfger> Fire. Fire, fire. Fire!
[19:37] <wolfger> sorry. I'm bored and quite tired
[19:37] <snap-l> 's OK.
[21:35] <brousch> ug, osx is annoying me with python dev stuff. i really need to get back to ubuntu
[21:50] <wolfger> http://d.pr/JONs
[22:00] <snap-l> wolfger: That MMD
[22:49] <snap-l> rick_h__: Did you know you show up as Anonymous in my GOogle reader?
[23:01] <greg-g> IT ALL MAKES SENSE!
[23:02] <greg-g> rick_h__ == Anonymous !!!
[23:15] <rick_h__> bwuhahahahaha
[23:17] <rick_h__> snap-l: so how do I show up like that? I've actually not been doing much sharing recently


[19:39] <en11gma> the past 3 or 4 daily releases have all been broken. those releases go back to 03-28. i think thats the only one i can actually use. i have an x570 mb with 5600x cpu and 3060 ti gpu
[19:39] <en11gma> in live usb mode i mean
[19:40] <en11gma> the most current daily is 04-02 and when it gets to desktop gui my screen is all white and i cant click anything
[19:40] <en11gma> have to force shutdown
[19:40] <en11gma> the other releases had repo sources messed up
[19:41] <en11gma> is 03-28 the only working usb live?
[19:42] <en11gma> i see a 04-03. downloading it now
[20:03] <en11gma> yep daily 22.04 (04-03) also has same WHITE Screen and i can move mouse but cant select or click anything. have to use power button to shutdown
[20:03] <en11gma> back to 03-28 daily
[20:03] <en11gma> just wanted to give a heads up in case no one knew


[11:05] <j_f-f> Hi, are the reasons to close the bug #1278365 so ok?
[11:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1278365 in ntp (Ubuntu) "ntpdate target server" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278365
[11:09] <jpds> j_f-f: Yeah, we already point people at the NTP pool.
[11:11] <j_f-f> jpds: thanks
[11:12] <rbasak> j_f-f: oh, I just concurrently triaged that.
[11:12] <jpds> j_f-f: Commented on the bug.
[11:13] <rbasak> jpds: looks like we all did :)
[11:13] <jpds> Actually, I have no idea what the reporter is talking about.
[11:15] <j_f-f> jpds: I'm too.
[15:16] <LarsThalmann> rbasak: hi. Nice meeting you at Fosdem!
[15:16] <rbasak> LarsThalmann: likewise!
[15:18] <LarsThalmann> and now I've found the chat... :)  I've set it to autojoin, so I'll hang here for a while.  if there are any concerns regarding MySQL, feel free to ping me...
[15:26] <rbasak> LarsThalmann: great, thanks! I doubt there'll be much chatter here - it mostly happens in the mysql bugs (if you're subscribed to those). This channel is mainly for guidance about what to do about particular bugs, and a place to request bug status changes for those who don't have the appropriate access.
[15:27] <rbasak> LarsThalmann: if you think you need a mysql bug triaged in a particular way, this is the place to ask :)
[15:28] <LarsThalmann> rbasak: ok, good
[17:08] <samertm> Hey, all
[17:08] <samertm> I'm not sure where I would report this bug
[17:08] <samertm> but there's an inconsistency in the layout of the software center app and the software center website
[17:09] <samertm> the app shows newlines on reviews and the website doesn't
[17:11] <samertm> just kidding, I found it on launchpad :P
[20:15] <iamgiri> Hey guys my ubuntu 12.04 freezes often,  I can't move my mouse. My keyboard not working too. I'm having this headache for more than 5 months. Can someone he me to overcome this issue? I have to restart my PC for each freeze
[20:15] <iamgiri> *help
[20:22] <rbasak> iamgiri: try #ubuntu for help. This channel is for bug triage.
[20:22] <iamgiri> rbasak: ok thank you


[00:13] <krytarik> VikingRedwolf: https://help.github.com/articles/about-commit-email-addresses/
 I need to read that
 Thanks, krytarik
[00:25] <krytarik> Sure.
 it seems I already did that :D
 https://zoom.us/j/377773578
 Wrong chat...
 wxl: I've done some work moving things over to the Phab wiki and reworking some stuff
[09:38] <tsimonq2> wxl[m]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/artful-backports/+bug/1743334
[15:40] <wxl> tsimonq2: why not backport to all supported releases?
 @MikolajczakMarcin, o/
 Ok... Erasinf Deepin.
 told ya...
 so beautiful so transparency so... LAG
 yup
 Lets see the next one...
 Install HaikuOS / BeOS! Be a man! 😁
 (Sticker, 512x300) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3472
 QubeOS
 Who would even try a distro filled with bloatware as Deepin...
 I better turn on my zx spectrum
 @brli7848, Well now i know what is offering and have an opinion
 @Wolfenprey, Indeed
 yeah, be that in a VM...?
 I ever test con real hard
 Deepin didn't work in a vm for me
 IIRC is due to silly 3D requirement of the CompizFusion...
 Not sure if it uses compiz, it's Gnome based. So Mutter.
 Anyway, it's sloooow
 So slow
 Around two gigs of RAM con desktop only
 But, really, be honest, who cares...the team begins with strong ambition on commercial market...where they'd rather reinvent lots of software into a Chinese-flavoured style...
 Yup
 Copy and mix Windows' sidebar UI with Apple's dock...
 Unlike Lubuntu, the team who uses the other's work because we're lazy af 😂
 well, tons of I-don't-know-what-they-done things...
 I miss Mandrake xD
 Damn, I need to finish the next wallpaper
 @Wolfenprey, Oohhh
 you still have Mageia XD
 I miss my old RedHat
 And Suse ... Was my first
 You should all use LFS! Be a man!
 But now...
 build your very own optimized distro! //
 @brli7848, With Vim!
 lol
 Muy distro: a window manager, doom and a mp3 player
 (Sticker, 512x392) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3473
 use only mpd and you're done...
 don't even need a gui for player //
 @Wolfenprey, Naaah.  Is that you?😂
 LOL
 people should ultimately working with only ttys, there is no need to mess around X or Wayland or whatsoever the problematic graphic card/driver issues.
 you'll gain a very pure experience with Linux itself. WITH VIM!
 @brli7848, Designers included XD
 yeah, remember the good old days with ANSI arts?
 Ooh god YES!
 @VikingRedwolf, :D
 I even still have an ASCII mail signature
 there is no need to go beyond 8-bit!
 @wxl, Hm, good idea, I just thought of Artful first...
 Damn right
 @MikolajczakMarcin, Yo!
 @brli7848, Well as i said before, i turn on my zx spectrum and try to load a cassette...
 👍😂
 @Jacob Kim, Welcome!
 Exclusive! New Lubuntu wallpaper!
 o___o
 (Photo, 800x600) https://i.imgur.com/BjlUn4L.jpg
 😐
 YES
 I LOVE IT
 MASTERPIECE
 admit it, you'd use it XD
 ._.
 I WOULD THOUGH XD
 it's a bird ._.
 (Photo, 1280x432) https://i.imgur.com/Ao0ESZU.jpg
 XD
 why your display is 25610561 : 2 ?
 Because .___.
 (two monitors)
 ah
 @VikingRedwolf, Oh man
 @Wolfenprey, I know. You're touched.
 Thats a work of pure genius
 I can't help being SO creative sometimes XD
 @VikingRedwolf SVG diffs 😆
 http://phab.lubuntu.me/R5:aac7849503da244eae98cc3e25f322cf8f107d40
 Pure tears of joy
 ^
 😍
 @VikingRedwolf What do you think? http://phab.lubuntu.me/T16
 Why we can’t react with emojis on phab? :/
 You can
 `:EMOJINAME`
 Just like in Telegram
 Not just use emoji
 react with emoji as on github
 Oh
 hm
 dunno
 (Photo, 279x177) https://i.imgur.com/75sRQG9.jpg You CAN award a token though
 Seems like the same sort of thing
 But emojis would make contributing to Lubuntu much more attractive to teenagers XD
 XD
 Then implement it! :P
 (Sticker, 512x498) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3480
 @VikingRedwolf Promise me we can do a really great April Fool's joke with those logos :D
 @tsimonq2, I like it
 @VikingRedwolf, Then give me logos :D
 http://phab.lubuntu.me/T16
 what variables can you show in that dialog?
 Lots
 Wherever there's text
 with those I added will suffice, unles you consider some important ones
 I also need you to replace the symlinks in that source code to be actual good icons :D
 the drive free space is the only tricky one
 @VikingRedwolf, Ok
 Right
 what symlinks?
 @VikingRedwolf, Go into the images dir for this source code
 Those are the icons
 I had them symlinked to the Lubuntu one for now but they should be replaced eventually
 I still have no idea what you're talking about
 for that dialog?
 @VikingRedwolf, https://github.com/lubuntu-team/lubuntu-about/tree/master/images
 Yes
 ok, I  agree, we need real icons there
 give a day to finish them, I'm still working on the wallpaper
 :)
 then we can test it creating a .desktop file
 Do it, just replace those keeping the exact file names and it'll automatically update 😉
 @VikingRedwolf, Ok
 Wfm
 it will also need an icon itself ;)
 the "ABOUT" icon XD
 Right now that's just the Lubuntu icon
 But yeah @VikingRedwolf whatever you see fit
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3481.mp4
 This should be the icon
 Or the Uganda icon. Because once you know what your system is about, then you know de wae
 Uganda? The  country? O.
 @VikingRedwolf, Yes
 mhm
 The place where everyone knows de wae
 (Photo, 960x705) https://i.imgur.com/sRTN9Lu.jpg
 (Sticker, 512x512) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3483.webp
 @VikingRedwolf So I have to convert this UI file to Python so it can dynamically read the things
 aye
 SIMON!
 Hai
 I was thinking...
 Yes? ._.
 We shouldn't use physical icons or anything
 We should use 16 px sized glyphs from the system
 what if anybody changes his theme?
 icons must reflect that change, or the colour
 Hm, ok.
 Works for me.
 but I can look for the needed names xdg-compliant
 Sure, please do.
 ok, I can do that now
 I'm making progress :D
 and I'm sure there's a widget or simething to place named system icons anywhere
 @tsimonq2, really?
 @VikingRedwolf, Really really
 SHOW MEH!!
 https://github.com/lubuntu-team/lubuntu-about
 When you launch main.py, the window shows up
 And when you click Close, the window disappears :D
 But first you have to run `make`
 :)
 icon naming added: http://phab.lubuntu.me/T16
 Cool
 I recommend 16px size glyphs for that
 ack
 AND for the logo you can use a bitmap, or another 64px icon, name "start-here-lubuntu"
 better just "start-here"
 or a picture of walter's face
 😆