[00:01] <dev001> Anyone here use the QBzr eclipse plugin?  Using the recommended (http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/QBzrEclipse) update site, http://bazaar.canonical.com/releases/3rd-party/qbzr-eclipse, returns a "repository not available" in Eclipse.
[13:58] <Noldorin> i see the following in my bzr log:
[13:58] <Noldorin> WARNING: "Key 'tfs+http://' already registered"
[13:58] <Noldorin> where do protocols actually get registered?
[14:01] <jelmer> Noldorin, they get registered when a plugin is loaded
[14:02] <jelmer> Noldorin, I've seen that particular error a couple of times when a plugin had syntax errors and was installed in two locations (system and user home)
[14:02] <Noldorin> jelmer, ah right
[14:02] <Noldorin> jelmer, problem is, the plugin is installed *nowhere* on my system
[14:02] <Noldorin> not that i can find
[14:02] <Noldorin> yet it's still picking it up somehow
[14:03] <jelmer> Noldorin, it would be..
[14:03] <Noldorin> ?
[14:04] <jelmer> Noldorin: this error suggests it's still installed *somewhere*
[14:04] <Noldorin> ok
[14:04] <Noldorin> i've checked all the usual places though
[14:04] <Noldorin> jelmer, anywhere you'd suggest to look now?
[14:05] <jelmer> Noldorin, have you checked /usr/local ?
[14:05] <Noldorin> jelmer, Windows. but yes, the equivalent
[14:14] <Noldorin> jelmer, ok, very strange. it wasn't showing in Windows Explorer, but another utility picked it up
[14:14] <Noldorin> oh well
[14:14] <Noldorin> bbl
[14:34] <vila> Noldorin: ha, finally, the ghost get out of its hole... Tell us what you find as it may happen to someone else and I'd really like to understand what happened to you.
[16:22] <knittl> how can i do a log on a file which was moved in an earlier revision?
[16:22] <knittl> bzr log -- $filename does not work
[16:22] <knittl> :-/
[16:55] <mgz> vila: this is the runtime problem with your leaks branch:
[16:55] <mgz> http://float.endofinternet.org/temp/leaking_diff.xml#bt.test_remote.TestRemoteRepositoryCopyContent.test_copy_content_remote_to_local
[16:56] <mgz> done a great job of squashing leaks, but a fraction of them have turned from 100ms leaks to 5000ms hang timeouts
[16:57] <mgz> and some are even worse:
[16:57] <mgz> http://float.endofinternet.org/temp/leaking_diff.xml#bb.test_branch
[16:58] <mgz> I'll poke around all that orange now.
[17:28] <mgz> okay, don't completely understand that orange, but the fix is easy
[17:28] <mgz> don't store the real get_transport method on the test instance and close over self, just close over the real method
[17:29] <jelmer> hi mgz
[17:29] <mgz> hey jelmer.
[17:40] <Noldorin> vila, back. i certainly will. it's baffled me too!
[17:43] <Noldorin> vila, you there?
[17:45] <mgz> he's probably having a nice non-work sunday afternoon now :)
[17:45] <Noldorin> heh, probably.
[17:46] <Noldorin> so was i, but this bzr stuff is haunting me :)
[18:38] <vila> mgz: ha, yeah, sure, I know about them but I decided to ignore them for the time being. It should be possible to reduce the timeout though, I just haven't experimented with that
[18:39] <mgz> yeah, we did discuss them before, just didn't time the full test run previously
[18:39] <vila> mgz: I have still to see why you need to *avoid* the closures instead of breaking the cycles. 'closures' are too powerful to get rid of them unless there is really no other solution IMNSHO
[18:40] <mgz> quite often the cycle is accidental and redundant anyway - for instance, the change to get rid of that orange actually makes the code simpler
[18:40] <vila> Noldorin, mgz: It's raining here. But not in movie theaters. 'Inception' is... one of my favourites from now on :0)
[18:41] <mgz> I'm off to cinema in an hour or so too.:)
[18:41] <vila> mgz: also, keep in mind that the get_transport trick is temporary, a better solution will be a hook.
[18:42] <vila> mgz: hehe, movie already chosen ?
[18:42] <mgz> scott pilgrim. which I have no idea whether I'll like or not, but hey.
[18:43] <vila> mgz: hmm, let us know ;-)
[18:44] <vila> Noldorin: I won't stay long, it's dinner time for me
[19:50] <Noldorin> vila, sorry, had to disappear
[19:50] <Noldorin> anyway, seems the main problem was that the file was deleted from the directory index but was still on disk :S
[19:50] <Noldorin> or something like such
[19:50] <Noldorin> since windows explorer wasn't listing it
[19:51] <vila> Noldorin: even with a refresh (F5) ?
[19:51] <Noldorin> yes
[19:52] <vila> weird :(
[19:52] <Noldorin> vila, yes, it's strange. i think bzr/python is doing something strange (non-windows like) to list the plugins directory
[19:53] <Noldorin> vila, at least you know for future reference though :)
[19:53] <vila> bzr/python relies on the file system, if something is strange, it's there
[19:54] <vila> that, or windows explorer...
[19:54] <Noldorin> vila, yeah, maybe it' just doing something "non-windows-like"
[19:54] <Noldorin> oh well
[19:54] <Noldorin> still curious how i can get bzr-tfs set up on windows hmm
[19:55] <vila> Noldorin: sry, I haven't look into this plugin, yet
[19:56] <Noldorin> that's fine
[19:56] <jelmer> Noldorin: are the codeplex repositories available using tfs?
[19:56] <Noldorin> jelmer, absolutely. it's the 'primary' VCS for codeplex
[19:56] <jelmer> ah, cool
[19:58]  * jelmer updates the error message in codeplex to mention bzr-tfs
[20:01] <mgz> jelmer: it's my understanding that the xml stuff dead code on modern formats as well, but want someone who actually knows to say that.
[20:01] <jelmer> mgz: In that case, consider it said :-)
[20:02] <mgz> okay, time for one more bug before I leave
[20:02] <Noldorin> bzr push tfs+https://tfs.codeplex.com/ircdotnet/devel
[20:02] <Noldorin> jelmer, i am trying that but no luck
[20:02] <Noldorin> bzr: ERROR: exceptions.ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack
[20:02] <vila> mgz: consider it repeated :)
[20:06] <Noldorin> ah, seems my url format is bad
[20:35] <FryGuy-> i had a bunch of problems getting bzr-tfs to work on our tfs 2010 server :(
[20:37] <mgz> okay cinema tomorrow evening instead
[20:39] <lifeless> mgz: enjoy
[20:42] <mgz> left it too late for tonight (and the weather is kinda horrid even for driving into town)
[20:44] <mgz> lifeless: I've got some changes for pyjunitxml, do you want mps?
[20:44] <lifeless> please
[20:44] <mgz> also, aren't expectedfailure and unexpectedsuccess backwards?
[20:44] <mgz> they get treated like a failure and a success respectively.
[20:47] <lifeless> good catch
[20:48] <mgz> I'll switch them, and use... unittest.case._UnexpectedSuccess for the exception name?
[20:49] <lifeless> thats not very backwards compatible
[20:49] <lifeless> if its from testtools its ok
[20:49] <lifeless> (I think; does pyjunitxml use testtools already?)
[20:49] <mgz> nope.
[20:49] <lifeless> hmm, or is that just a string literal
[20:49] <lifeless> if its just a string literal thats ok with me.
[20:49] <mgz> right, string just for the xml attribute content
[20:50] <lifeless> its been a while since I opened that project ;)
[20:50] <mgz> :)
[20:58] <lifeless> mgz: btw, the monkey patching xml stuff
[20:58] <lifeless> mgz: -huge- performance win
[20:59] <mgz> I can imagine, but is it still used?
[20:59] <lifeless> as jam says, in bundles
[20:59] <lifeless> I'm neutral on removing the optimisation
[20:59] <lifeless> let me say that
[20:59] <mgz> ah, not looked at mail again yet
[20:59] <lifeless> me, I closed the thread
[20:59] <lifeless> anyhow, I'm on the fence
[20:59] <lifeless> some folk still have older format branches
[21:00] <lifeless> dunno what %; LP probably knows
[21:00] <mgz> hm, wonder if junit will fall over if a failure element has no content...
[21:05] <mgz> I can live with updating the hack, just didn't know how important it was and didn't get an answer on the bug, so figured sticking an mp up was a way to get people who cared to speak up
[21:10] <lifeless> fair 'nuff
[21:14] <lifeless> mgz: does my comment about LBYL make sense to you?
[21:14] <lifeless> was possibly a bit opaque
[21:37] <mgz> lifeless: it does, two thoughts on it,
[21:38] <mgz> one, I'm not sure on the ideas of what is allowed to raise BzrCommandError so sticking it underneath a similar one for subunit absense seemed safe
[21:38] <lifeless> you can raise a non BzrCommandError
[21:39] <Noldorin> FryGuy-, yeah, seems bzr-tfs doesn't like the codeplex servers either
[21:39] <lifeless> as long as internal=False, it will format the same
[21:39] <mgz> also, wanted to always raise it, not silently let it pass if concurrency=1
[21:39] <Noldorin> FryGuy-, from what i've seen...
[21:39] <FryGuy-> i made a bunch of hacks on mine to get it to work
[21:39] <FryGuy-> but then it stopped working
[21:39] <lifeless> mgz: that last bit isn't particularly compelling to me; I'm curious why it is to you ?
[21:39] <mgz> but could move to bzrlib.tests.fork_decorator instead, which is a bit closer to the actual site
[21:40] <lifeless> yes, that would be better
[21:40] <FryGuy-> noldrin: do you want to try my version and see if it's any better?
[21:40] <lifeless> the main point for me is that this is delegated reponsibility
[21:40] <mgz> because I'm on a 1 cpu machine and was very confused the other day when trying to repo --parallel things
[21:41] <lifeless> is there an optimisation to not fork if cpu count = 1? that would be a bug unless its in fork_decorator (because ec2 *has* to go to ec2 :P)
[21:41] <mgz> there is, both the --parallel decorators do nothing if 1
[21:49] <lifeless> mgz: there are three :)
[21:50] <mgz> hiding!
[21:51] <fullermd> Pah.  If it were REALLY parallel, it would create an arbitrary number of decorators on demand...
[21:52] <lifeless> mgz: the third is in a plugin
[21:52] <lifeless> mgz: bzr-ec2test
[21:53] <mgz> hm, I just hit 's' rather than 'e' in feed-pqm by mistake
[21:53] <mgz> will that do bad things?
[21:53] <lifeless> it will use the API
[21:53] <lifeless> which pqm is not looking at now
[21:54] <mgz> what letter do I use for "disregard that, I'm an idiot"?
[21:54] <lifeless> e
[21:55] <mgz> but it's not in the list any more...
[21:56] <lifeless> run with --show-queued or whatever the option is
[21:56] <mgz> ah, ta.
[22:18] <mgz> ark, now I understand why running the pyjunitxml test suite doesn't work on python 2.4
[22:19] <mgz> it's the __main__  vs. unittest thing
[22:20] <mgz> get two different sets of classes so unittest.TestSuite instance is not a __main__.TestSuite
[22:20] <mgz> what's the normal hack around that?
[22:21] <lifeless> use python 2.5 ?
[22:21] <lifeless> boom-tish
[22:21] <mgz> also fails on 2.5
[22:21] <lifeless> uhm, sigh
[22:21] <lifeless> I forget
[22:21] <mgz> so, presume you need 2.6 at least.
[22:22] <lifeless> does python -m subunit.run pyjunitxml.test_suite work ?
[22:23] <mgz> that's a package, not a module, so not for my 2.4 no
[22:24] <lifeless> python /path/to/subunit/run.py pyjunitxml.test_suite
[22:24] <mgz> I think I tried using the testtools runner script directly the other day and that didn't work for some other reason
[22:56] <mgz> okay, nearly at the bug that actually started me on this crusade now...


[06:56] <blahdeblah> What's the right way to request a particular driver to be included in a particular kernel?  (In my specific case, I'm looking for https://github.com/amzn/amzn-drivers/tree/master/kernel/linux/ena version 2.10.x or later added to the AWS kernel.)


[00:23] <RAOF> mlankhorst: Um, no? Although xorg was a prerequisite :)
[01:18] <popey> just filed bug 1100110
[01:19] <popey> seems a problem with xorg package in precise-proposed
[01:21] <seb128> popey, please mention it on #ubuntu-release as well
[01:21] <popey> roger
[03:25] <RAOF> bryce: I've rejected the xorg-server in the precise queue; could you please upload again, but including the previous changes in the changes file. We need this so that the appropriate bugs get tracked.
[07:13] <mlankhorst> oh right
[09:47] <mlankhorst> f
[09:47] <mlankhorst> oops
[16:12] <shadeslayer> bwahahaha
[16:12] <shadeslayer> tjaalton: I think flash is making my GPU do this : [18022.896878] [drm:i915_hangcheck_hung] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung
[16:12] <shadeslayer> I was watching a flash video and the GPU just hanged again
[16:13] <tjaalton> with sna?
[16:16] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:19] <tjaalton> can you do a vt change?
[16:20] <shadeslayer> err ... I already restarted X
[16:20] <shadeslayer> but I have the i915_error_state file
[16:20] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1537992/
[16:22] <tjaalton> can you reproduce it?
[16:24] <shadeslayer> I'll try
[16:25] <tjaalton> i'll update the driver to 2.20.18
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ty
[16:26] <tjaalton> no idea if it helps there
[16:30] <shadeslayer> well ... I can't reproduce :(
[16:31] <tjaalton> the error state is similar to 1099394
[16:58] <shadeslayer> tjaalton: should I upload my error state to that bug?
[17:12] <tjaalton> shadeslayer: file a new one just to be sure
[17:12] <tjaalton> did you get the apport dialog about it?
[17:12] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:15] <tjaalton> meh
[17:15] <tjaalton> running kde?
[17:15] <shadeslayer> yep
[17:15] <tjaalton> install xdiagnose
[17:15] <shadeslayer> I already have that
[17:15] <tjaalton> sigh
[17:15] <tjaalton> ok
[17:16] <tjaalton> just leave it then
[17:16] <shadeslayer> oh okay
[17:28] <tjaalton> install the new driver and try to break it again :)
[17:40] <shadeslayer> tjaalton: heh okay :D
[22:32] <bryce> RAOF, done btw
[23:03] <RAOF> bryce: And accepted.


[02:16] <talha> hello??
[02:16] <talha> anybody there?
[02:17] <Mylon> What's up?
[02:19] <talha> Hey. I'm looking for help with some virtualisation problems in Kubuntu 14.04 with Vmware. Would you be able to help?
[02:20] <Mylon> Probably not.  But... Are you virtualizing Kubuntu 14.04 or are you virtualizing something else inside of Kubuntu 14.04?
[02:21] <talha> Virtualising kubuntu
[02:21] <Mylon> And what problems are you having?
[02:21] <talha> The vmware tools has become corrupted somehow and will no longer let me resize, copy paste etc.
[02:22] <Mylon> Oh, that sounds like a problem with VMWare.
[02:22] <talha> It's not VMWare. It's kubuntu. I tried with another virtual machine it works fine
[02:22] <Mylon> At one point VMware wouldn't launch because I had misplaced my virtual machines folder during a backup/restore.
[02:23] <talha> I had a problem with grub and at one point I updated it and after that the vmware tools stopped working
[02:25] <Mylon> I'm familiar with vmware tools and what they do, just not familiar with them inside of a Kubuntu machine.
[02:25] <Mylon> But now that you mention it, I should make a Kubuntu VM just so I can fuck with the next "You're computer is infected with a virus" phone scammer.
[02:26] <talha> lol
[02:26] <talha> you still get those?
[02:27] <talha> And why does this google captcha not work in chrome??
[02:30] <talha> Great, now i'm blocked from creating an account for spamming.. thanks captch
[02:44] <Mylon> I dunno, so long as you don't do like 2 captcha in an hour you just click a box and it works.
[02:44] <Mylon> No solving silly illegibile lettering.
[03:17] <Mylon> How do I change audio output device?  I have a bluetooth speaker
[03:18] <Mylon> It's connected
[03:55] <Mylon> I tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/398030/change-default-sound-device/502133
[03:56] <Mylon> But it doesn't seem to launch after installing.
[04:06] <Fritigern> Mylon: Of course that does not work for you. That post is about HDMI, you have bluetooth. So, go to the bluetooth config and add it.
[04:07] <Mylon> Well it's added in bluetooth.
[04:07] <Mylon> But it's not playing through it because it thinks it's a headset or somethign.
[04:12] <Fritigern> See if you have pavucontrol installed, if not, install it. Using that you may be able to enable your BT speakers as output
[04:18] <Mylon> Bleh, so much stuff needs to be part of the default Kubuntu install.
[04:18] <Mylon> I'd rather a 12 gig install that has these options available than a 2 gig install that doesn't.
[04:19] <Mylon> Okay... Tried to install pavucontrol via Discover and it said insufficient permissions?
[04:21] <Mylon> Oh, there's the password prompt.
[04:21] <Mylon> Was hiding.
[04:22] <Fritigern> Linux 101: If you want to install something, you need to enter your password. if you don;t, then you will have insuffi cient perms
[04:23] <Mylon> Alright, got it playing via Bluetooth.
[04:23] <Mylon> Thanks, Fritigern.
[04:51] <Mylon> Now I guess the next task is to find a decent music discovery service that doesn't stream shitty 128kbps audio.
[04:57] <Fritigern> I am fond of Jamendo, but that may not meet your needs, although I don;t know what quality they offer
[04:58] <Fritigern> And then of course you could alwyas tune into some online radio station, for which I would recommend Iceasty at http://dir.xiph.org
[05:03] <Mylon> Youtube is half-way decent at finding music I like, except for the poor quality part.
[05:03] <Fritigern> What kind of muzzik do you like?
[05:05] <Mylon> Lately been on a retro video game music kick.
[05:06] <Mylon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdB89l4DmtY
[05:40] <Mylon> Amarok looks like black magic.
[05:41] <Mylon> Tells me how often I've heard the music, last time I heard it, lets me rate it....
[09:54] <ron____> i want to use softwares like SAS inm my sytem so which version of ubuntu should i use
[10:05] <valorie> !sas
[10:05] <valorie> I don't know what SAS is
[10:05] <valorie> ubottu doesn't know either, sorry
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:29] <jubo2> y0 piippöl
[14:30] <jubo2> Thanks for the awesome OS
[14:30] <jubo2> Now the bad part..
[14:30] <Smurphy> there is no bad part.
[14:30] <Smurphy> It always sits on front of the keyboard :)
[14:30] <jubo2> My machine does not wake up from sleep properly whenever it is not connected to the dock
[14:31] <Smurphy> I never send mine to sleep. Not required (Only got low power hardware).
[14:31] <jubo2> Yeah but being a laptop it'd be really nice
[14:31] <Smurphy> But - what do you call "properly" ?
[14:31] <Smurphy> What GPU is in your laptop ?
[14:31] <jubo2> Smurphy: It is maybe related to this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1418295
[14:32] <jubo2> At least the symptoms sound just about the same
[14:32] <jubo2> I didn't find any agree fix in that article
[14:33] <jubo2> Smurphy: Is Intel integrated GPU that comes with 1st gen i5
[14:33] <juboxi> Hello from another machine!
[14:34] <Smurphy> juboxi: Weird. usually the Intel GPU's are the best supported. using a 5th Gen i7 here on my Dell Laptop.
[14:35] <Smurphy> And I have no such issues.
[14:35] <jubo2> Bourgeoisie chip :D :D
[14:38] <BluesKaj> hjeh, only an i3 here and, no probs at all as described above
[14:38] <BluesKaj> on my laptop that is
[14:39] <Smurphy> jubo2: How did you configure the graphics on your system? Defaults ?
[14:41] <jubo2> Smurphy: yes. autodetect settings.
[14:41] <Smurphy> nothing in: dmesg output ?
[14:41] <Smurphy> You manage to go down to the console when that happens ? <Ctrl>-<Alt>-F1
[14:41] <jubo2> Smurphy: haven't checked. Is fried tomato, eggs and bacon momemnt here now
[14:41] <Smurphy> ?
[14:42] <jubo2> Smurphy: iirc yes the textual consoles work
[14:42] <Smurphy> Yeah - I understand that. That's good :D
[14:42] <Smurphy> Could you check the next time that happens -> go to the console, and issue a "dmesg" call (Kernel ring buffer). To see if the kernel tells us something that has happened.
[14:43] <jubo2> ok. in a little while
[14:49] <jubo2> ok. I disconnect here and see what dmesg says in tty
[14:50] <juboxi> Smurphy: ok looking at dmesg now
[14:51] <juboxi> kactivity manage and klauncher segfault
[14:51] <juboxi> all else looks good
[14:52] <juboxi> it detactches the SCSI DVD-Ram station and the USB ports in the docking station
[14:52] <juboxi> those exist only on the docking station
[14:52] <juboxi> I also see an exception
[14:52] <juboxi> in red
[14:53] <juboxi> SError it concludes
[14:53] <juboxi> I put the laptop to sleep and wake it up again
[14:53] <juboxi> now I get login screen with alt-ctrl-F7
[14:54] <juboxi> but it leads back to the login screen
[14:54] <juboxi> :(
[14:56] <juboxi> now I see a bunch of segfaultsin dmesg
[15:01] <juboxi> bummer.
[15:24] <Smurphy> lol. yeah - weird sometimes.
[15:39] <aboudreault> Does anyone know why some applications don't show in the systray? (not hidden)
[15:40] <BluesKaj> aboudreault, it's a bug, sometimes they return on a reboot, sometimes not
[15:44] <aboudreault> :/ already rebooted and remove-add the widget
[15:45] <aboudreault> Do you know if it is fixed upstream?
[16:55] <zhouzhiwen2000> hello
[18:56] <mario_> ciao
[18:57] <mario_> !list
[20:19] <fewcha> Hi, I am trying to update my Kubuntu, but am getting this error everytime -> https://paste.kde.org/poecxxgfg/pybaat   Can someone please help? Thanks
[20:35] <BluesKaj> !precise
[20:38] <rodolfojcj> fewcha: try opening Muon update manager GUI and go to More > Software Sources and in the Other Software tab, temporary uncheck the extras.ubuntu.com entry
[20:38] <rodolfojcj> and then run apt-get update again
[20:39] <rodolfojcj> algo, maybe you can ignore that error for a while and try to upgrade the packages not coming from extras.ubuntu.com by running apt-get upgrade command and seeing if there are upgrades available
[20:42] <fewcha> rodolfojcj: okay, trying it, thanks
[20:42] <rodolfojcj> you're welcome
[20:43] <rodolfojcj> fewcha: which Kubuntu version are you using? Are you trying to upgrade the current one or do you want to go to a more recent version?
[20:45] <fewcha> rodolfojcj: kubuntu 15 , and I am just trying to upgrade the current one
[20:53] <rodolfojcj> fine
[21:16] <darksim> How can I stop Kubuntu from launching ALL games as fullscreen, spread across all available monitors instead of just using a single monitor?
[21:46] <Mylon> Blargh.  My bluetooth speaker no longer seem to be connected after the computer was put in sleep.
[21:47] <Mylon> And bluetooth connect button didn't work the first 5 times but it worked the sixth... Go figure.
[22:13] <hulkcat> Hi
[22:14] <hulkcat> I have an ubuntu 15.10 and Kubuntu 14.04, in different partitions in one computer
[22:15] <hulkcat> My problem is this, I can connect to the internet via ZTE Modem, it works by GPRS, from ubuntu 15.10, but I can't connect to the internet via kubuntu 14.04
[22:15] <hulkcat> Please help me :)