[22:42] <IdleOne> zertu: you can't
[22:42] <cjay554> Daijoubu, go ahead pm me
[22:42] <ibuclaw> zertu, you ask for too much.
[22:42] <Daijoubu> h00k they recommend h264 codec with mp3 audio and that's exactly what i'm doing with mp4 file :/
[22:42] <zertu> apt-get install kde on the path
[22:42] <zertu> is that possible ?
[22:42] <IdleOne> no it isn't
[22:42] <ibuclaw> zertu, yes and no ...
[22:42] <zertu> lol ibuclaw here the only to do is to ask
[22:42] <liminal> here is my xessions errors
[22:42] <liminal> http://pastebin.com/kdTe2R08
[22:43] <zertu> you told me to do not to ask ?
[22:43] <limen_> I can't play a DVD (Friends) in Ubuntu (10.04). I've downloaded all possible codecs but nothing helps. The errorcode from Totem is "Kunde inte öppna platsen; du kanske inte har rättighet att öppna filen." - In english = "Could not open location. You may have insufficent rights to open the file" (sorry for my crappy english :) )
[22:43] <liminal> seems to show its not a happy bunny
[22:43] <h00k> Daijoubu: We really aren't able to help with Youtube problems, you're probably going to have to contact them
[22:43] <zertu> ibuclaw: uc
[22:43] <zertu> ??
[22:43] <xangua> !lucid > limen_
[22:43] <exigraff> Daijoubu: though you can run ffmpeg -i vid.mp4 to verify that you're actually encoding properly
[22:43] <ibuclaw> zertu, yes, but you don't strike me as someone who is familiar with chroot and installing a system from ground up using a debootstrap ... so no.
[22:43] <IdleOne> ibuclaw: :) thank you
[22:43] <Daijoubu> h00k, i know but after 5 days of trying to make things work spamming here is my only option sorry :)
[22:43] <zertu> yes i can do
[22:44] <Daijoubu> exigraff, i need to edit my clips and thats impossible with command line :(
[22:44] <ibuclaw> zertu, *who is NOT familiar with chroot or debootstrap
[22:44] <shashike> 32 bit vs 64bit?? what do you guys recommend?
[22:44] <zertu> give me just some key for that
[22:44] <zertu> sure i can to do
[22:44] <zaxonspox> shashike acording to RAM nad CPU(64bit)
[22:44] <exigraff> Daijoubu: not the point. running that will tell you exactly what the file consists of - this is just to verify that the end-product is encoded properly.
[22:44] <IdleOne> Daijoubu: take a look at OpenShot
[22:45] <zaxonspox> IdleOne OpenShot Video Editor?
[22:45] <IdleOne> zaxonspox: yes, as for his codec issue that I don't know
[22:45] <zertu> come on
[22:45] <shashike> i have a 64bit processor and 4GB ram..  should i install 64 bit on it???
[22:45] <linxeh> yes
[22:45] <liminal> ibuclaw does the xsessions-errors file reveal anything?
[22:45] <linxeh> else you wont be using all of your ram
[22:45] <liminal> http://pastebin.com/kdTe2R08
[22:46] <zaxonspox> shashike, yes, 64
[22:46] <linxeh> (unless you use PAE or something and suffer the performance hit)
[22:46] <zertu> not shashike
[22:46] <zertu> not necessary you can install both
[22:46] <Daijoubu> IdleOne I'm using OpenShot :(
[22:46] <shashike> but i heard horror stories about 64bit, about flash not working and all that..  will that be fixed in ubuntu 10.04??
[22:46] <zaxonspox> IdleOne OSVE has ability like MS Paint
[22:47] <limen_> I can't play a DVD (Friends) in Ubuntu (10.04). I've downloaded all possible codecs but nothing helps. The errorcode from Totem is "Kunde inte öppna platsen; du kanske inte har rättighet att öppna filen." - In english = "Could not open location. You may have insufficent rights to open the file" (sorry for my crappy english :) )
[22:47] <zaxonspox> shashike, yest, it is true, but, do you want to have all 4GB of RAM, or less?
[22:47] <IdleOne> zaxonspox: then join the project and help make it better
[22:48] <ibuclaw> liminal, nothing too much out of the ordinary worth noting there. What application keeps on crashing ?
[22:48] <Daijoubu> exigraff well cjay554 is telling me that everything works for him and he's using Ubuntu 9.10  and i'm using Lucid RC, is it possible that the libs for Lucid are bad or something? Should i ask in Lucid channel ?
[22:48] <shashike> but i get all 4Gb ram on 32bit too
[22:48] <zaxonspox> IdleOne i was wondering about that, but i said no. I did only a description of program and his ability as a colleg work for HCI
[22:48] <littledani> shashike is not that bad, some issues with flash yes, but in general it works pretty well.
[22:49] <Theowning> Hmm, I really messed up my boot and dont really know where to go from here. Using grub2 was working fine until I uninstalled splashy and now it's pulling errors all the time saying "return: 24: Illegal number:". Could the lack of splashy be causing this?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> limen_: How are you trying to open the DVD in totem?
[22:49] <ibuclaw> zertu, would probably take me more than an hour to walk through procedure, but I figured it out with this as a guidance https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/hppa/linux-upgrade.html
[22:49] <exigraff> Daijoubu: if you like. have you tried #openshot?
[22:49] <shashike> have u guys used ubuntu 10.04 yet??
[22:49] <littledani> not yet
[22:49] <Daijoubu> exigraff, yep waiting for 5h now and no one sayd anything
[22:49] <liminal> ibuclaw all of them
[22:49] <IdleOne> shashike: Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[22:49] <ibuclaw> zertu, there are a few extra things you may need to do - and a few steps you will need to do differently.
[22:50] <liminal> sometimes the whole OS
[22:50] <ibuclaw> zertu, IMO - it is much simpler just to install from LiveCD
[22:50] <ibuclaw> liminal, is this predicable, or random crashes?
[22:50] <zertu> i can't access to my server physically
[22:50] <ibuclaw> liminal, can you name one that crashes the most frequent?
[22:50] <liminal> firefox
[22:50] <zertu> that's why i say that one i can't do
[22:50] <liminal> chrome
[22:51] <liminal> xchat
[22:51] <liminal> ubuntu software server
[22:51] <liminal> center
[22:51] <FloodBot2> liminal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <limen_> Jordan_U, how many ways are there ? Ive tried "open" and selected the .vob-file. Ive tried "play disc"
[22:52] <jahnkeanater> how do i update to ubuntu 9.10
[22:52] <ibuclaw> liminal, ok then can you open a terminal then ( Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal ) and type in:  firefox
[22:52] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | jahnkeanater
[22:52] <jahnkeanater> ok thanks
[22:52] <limen_> :)
[22:53] <exigraff> Daijoubu: keep waiting, 5hrs isn't long. also see the support options at http://openshotvideo.com/
[22:53] <ibuclaw> liminal, pressing enter will launch firefox. Then wait for it to crash, and then copy + paste any output in the terminal to a pastebin.
[22:53] <jahnkeanater> lol oops can i get that url again :)
[22:54] <IdleOne> jahnkeanater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:54] <lucida> Hi, How can I know the type of my touchpad?
[22:54] <IdleOne> jahnkeanater: and http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[22:54] <Jordan_U> limen_: Can you play other DVD's? can you copy one of the files from the dvd to your hard drive without any errors?
[22:55] <leninn> fd
[22:55] <brodie> is it possible to rebind menu hotkeys in gtk apps?
[22:56] <jahnkeanater> my update manager doesn't say there is a new distribution
[22:57] <liminal> im trying to install the flash player plugin for firefox with an APT - but it doesnt work, it asks me for an application to install it with
[22:57] <limen_> Jordan_U, Tried to copy the .vob-file and recieved an error: "Fel vid splice av fil: In/ut-fel". Hard to translate to english but something like: "error during splice of file: in/out-error"
[22:57] <liminal> what am i doing wrong?
[22:57] <xangua> jahnkeanater: what version are you using¿
[22:57] <jahnkeanater> 8.04
[22:57] <xangua> liminal: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ; will install flash, codecs, fonts, etc
[22:58] <xangua> jahnkeanater: and to what version do you want to upgrade¿
[22:58] <jahnkeanater> 9.10
[22:58] <xangua> for lucid you will hace to wait one more week jahnkeanater
[22:58] <jahnkeanater> ok
[22:58] <Jordan_U> limen_: Ok, I think you're running into a new form of copy protection I encounterd recently, (or you just have a scratched disk). Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[22:58] <jahnkeanater> then it will show up in the update manager
[22:58] <Scunizi> when I run "route" in cli I get a 2 line result.. the first is "Destination <IP_ADDRESS>" and shows the mask of <IP_ADDRESS> w/ flag of "u" .. The second is "Destination = default, gateway <IP_ADDRESS>, Genmask of <IP_ADDRESS>., flags= UG" ... is this normal or should there only be one line with my gateway address?
[22:58] <xangua> jahnkeanater: yes
[22:58] <dark-master> alguin save como puedo instalar programas k el synaptic no reconoce los programas
[22:59] <liminal> whenever I try to install anything using apt-get I fet the following output back
[22:59] <jahnkeanater> ok
[22:59] <liminal> Segmentation faulty tree... 0%
[22:59] <liminal> is this correct?
[22:59] <dark-master> alguin save como puedo instalar programas k el synaptic no reconoce los programas
[22:59] <dark-master> alguin save como puedo instalar programas k el synaptic no reconoce los programas
[22:59] <Scunizi> liminal: try sudo apt-get update .. then try installing again.
[22:59] <xangua> !es > dark-master
[22:59] <Scunizi> !es | dark-master
[23:00] <dark-master> vale ubottu
[23:01] <Crshman> does anyone know what the name of the package that provides command hints? When I type in a command that doesn't exist the console spits back some recommendations
[23:02] <Jordan_U> Crshman: command-not-found
[23:02] <Crshman> Jordan_U: thanks!
[23:02] <Jordan_U> Crshman: You're welcome.
[23:04] <NLAKSHMI> hi folks, I am tyring to capture moon light stream to a file
[23:04] <NLAKSHMI> any idea how to capture
[23:05] <NLAKSHMI> moonlight stream so I can put that inside of
[23:05] <NLAKSHMI> the MythTV
[23:05] <NLAKSHMI> anyone using moonlight ?
[23:05] <NLAKSHMI> aka mono
[23:06] <nm> histo, i just wanted to know how to get my laptop connected to my wifi network, can someone help
[23:06] <Oer> i never succeed in capturing moonlight silverlight streams NLAKSHMI
[23:06] <NLAKSHMI> histo. can u give more info
[23:06] <limen_> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/421892/ :)
[23:07] <nm> sure, its a sony vaio laptop, my wifi network has been set up
[23:07] <nm> well, lemme tell ya what i did so far
[23:07] <xangua> nm: he means the wifi card, not the pc brand
[23:07] <verb3k> NLAKSHMI, you can do high-quality screencast of the stream
[23:07] <nm> its atheros
[23:08] <liminal> xangua I installed the restricted extras, firefox is still staying I need flash?
[23:08] <NLAKSHMI> not very high quality
[23:08] <NLAKSHMI> but its resonable
[23:08] <Jordan_U> limen_: There is currently no Free tool specifically designed to thwart this copy protection. But, and I found no other source on the internet that suggests this and was amazed that it actually worked when I tried it, gnu ddrescue can get past it by using techneques for reading from damaged media.
[23:08] <xangua> liminal: did you restarted firefox¿
[23:08] <liminal> yupo
[23:08] <verb3k> NLAKSHMI, with audio too  http://verb3k.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/how-to-do-proper-screencasts-on-linux/
[23:08] <xangua> nm: check if drivers are aviable in system> administracion> hardware drives
[23:09] <xangua> liminal: using 64 bits OS¿
[23:09] <liminal> hell no
[23:09] <liminal> 32 bit causes me problem enough
[23:09] <nm> "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[23:10] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i get invited to #hardware?
[23:11] <NLAKSHMI> verb3k, I am trying to capture stream to store
[23:11] <xangua> linux_is_my_hero: you need to be registered i believe
[23:11] <NLAKSHMI> not do my own screen cast
[23:11] <xangua> liminal: then what's the problem with flash¿
[23:11] <Jordan_U> limen_: It takes a very long time, but to get an iso that works run "sudo ddrescue /dev/cdrom Videos/friends.iso friends_ddrescue.log"
[23:11] <xangua> nm: are there aviable drivers¿
[23:11] <liminal> xamgia its not there
[23:12] <harjot> how do i create an adhooc network in 8.04?
[23:12] <liminal> when I go to a site that needs it, it asks me to install it
[23:12] <nm> xangua, it says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[23:12] <IMoM> how do I swap the X movement on mu touchscreen?  the forums don't help muxh
[23:12] <xangua> liminal: maybe you installed another plugin: gnash, swfdec ¿¿
[23:12] <liminal> nothing is showing
[23:14] <liminal> ive heard the latest dev release of chrome supports flash
[23:14] <zaxonspox> liminal did you installed Flash from apt or from adobe website?
[23:14] <liminal> not sure how to install it though
[23:14] <nm> i guess i'll bb another day...really gotta sleep now
[23:14] <liminal> zaxonspox no - i tried, but apt installation didnt work
[23:14] <bastid_raZor> harjot: http://tinyurl.com/33dzeol
[23:14] <alfonso> ciao
[23:14] <nm> thx for the help
[23:14] <bastid_raZor> harjot: and also check http://tinyurl.com/5kgx6l
[23:15] <harjot> bastid_raZor: ok
[23:15] <alfonso> 1
[23:15] <zaxonspox> liminal download Flash tar.gz package from adobe website, unpack it, then type in terminal sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[23:15] <alfonso> exit
[23:15] <IMoM> does no one use a touchscreen?
[23:16] <Typos_King> IMoM:   not I :{
[23:16] <harjot> bastid_raZor: im trying to 'create' an adhoc network, im actually on kubuntu
[23:16] <linux_is_my_hero> IMoM: I have a tablet pc
[23:16] <linux_is_my_hero> IMoM: and i would ove to make it work as a tablet but right now its just a really fast laptop
[23:17] <IMoM> have you had the problem of X ot Y reversed?
[23:17] <bastid_raZor> harjot: the command line commands are the same for kubuntu as for ubuntu
[23:17] <Typos_King> liminal:  http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/#section-3
[23:17] <linux_is_my_hero> IMoM: I havent screwed with the tablet functionality yet, sorry :-(
[23:17] <limen_> Jordan_U, could I use the dd_rescue from synaptic?
[23:18] <liminal> why doesnt the apt installation work
[23:18] <harjot> bastid_raZor: ok im trying the firestarter one
[23:18] <liminal> I have ubuntu 9.10
[23:18] <liminal> it should be compatible
[23:18] <Jordan_U> limen_: Install the "gddrescue" package, it's better than dd_rescue.
[23:18] <liminal> sorry API
[23:19] <Typos_King> harjot:   IIRC knetworkmanager has that in its setting when setting up a network, it has a dropdown list and Ad-hoc is in the choices
[23:19] <liminal> no sorry APT
[23:19] <Jordan_U> limen_: dd_rescue won't help at all in this instance.
[23:19] <zaxonspox> liminal did you tried version tar.gz from adobe website
[23:19] <liminal> why does it ask me to choose an application
[23:19] <harjot> Typos_King: im on hardy 8.04
[23:19] <harjot> Typos_King: so it doesnt
[23:20] <chancesmith> hey guys need some help with a wifi card
[23:20] <Scunizi> nmblookup -M
[23:20] <Typos_King> harjot:   maybe you're not looking at all :{, I've seen it, I believe in 7.1 as well
[23:20] <MindSpark> hi, I need to install java on 9.04
[23:20] <Typos_King> liminal:    <zaxonspox> liminal download Flash tar.gz package from adobe website, unpack it, then type in terminal sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[23:21] <MindSpark> some instructions say I have to install sun-java6-bin, but the apt doesn't seem to find that package
[23:21] <harjot> Typos_King: ive looked in knetworkwmanger
[23:21] <liminal> i dont think I have a problem just wish flash.
[23:21] <harjot> Typos_King: ther is no create option
[23:22] <liminal> i mean if i installed the restricted extras.. why isnt it showing already?
[23:22] <Typos_King> harjot:   ... look where?   is not as conspicous IIRC, is not like an option right on the right-click menu, you have to 'make a new connection or network' and from there do a manual setup, tell what type, and somewhere in the choices it has it, I don't use knetworkmanager, though I'm on kubuntu too :P
[23:23] <harjot> Typos_King: IIRC is another network manager?
[23:23] <Typos_King> harjot:   IIRC if I recall correctly ^_^
[23:25] <limen_> Jordan_U, thx - the dd_rescue didn't help at all :) trying the gddrescue as we speak - sure making alot of noise - but no errors yet :) deeply appreciate your help!
[23:25] <wertwertgfhjrer> is there another way to see the cpu load besides top and htop?
[23:25] <liminal> zaxonspox ive done the tarball extract
[23:25] <Brimstones> liminal: What version of Ubuntu ate you using ?
[23:25] <liminal> seems to now be working
[23:25] <liminal> which is great thanks
[23:25] <liminal> but im still worried i have other issues
[23:25] <liminal> 9.10 32bit
[23:26] <zaxonspox> liminal what issues? with what?
[23:27] <Typos_King> wertwertgfhjrer:     there are several apps to show such.... many GUI ones too like 'gkrellm' -> http://www.mindlandgraphics.com/big/GkrellmSS.jpg
[23:27] <LinuxGuy2009> IdleOne: Sent you a message in offtopic.
[23:27] <Typos_King> wertwertgfhjrer:     it's in the repos, so :)
[23:27] <Brimstones> liminal: Any other issues we may help with today/night =?
[23:28] <Fiveways> liminal: you got your graphics card problem resolved?
[23:28] <Fiveways> or whatever ewas going on
[23:29] <liminal> yes and no
[23:29] <liminal> :(
[23:29] <Brimstones> the Cube must be the first cubicle anyone liked for a long time :P
[23:29] <liminal> ive got a marathon to take part in tomorrow
[23:29] <liminal> i guess it will have to wait
[23:30] <Macer> hm. has anybody here used simple-scan?
[23:30] <Typos_King> liminal:    FYI, chrome/opera also uses/checks ->  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins for plugins to load, so, that'll work with your chrome version too
[23:30] <Macer> i need something for ubuntu that can scan documents into pdfs
[23:30] <Macer> is that possible?
[23:30] <zaxonspox> liminal, marathon? running?
[23:30] <Fiveways> liminal: i had a problem too, haha...i just reinstalled
[23:30] <Brimstones> Macer: ps2pdf ?
[23:30] <Fiveways> have a feeling its gonna happen again
[23:30] <Macer> Brimstones: but what would i use to scan it?
[23:30] <Brimstones> Macer: xsane or so
[23:31] <Macer> xsane scans documents into pages?
[23:31] <liminal> no running.. just disrupting
[23:31] <pmcclelland> god it annoys me how ubuntu keeps messing with random stuff from one release to the next
[23:31] <Macer> i was hoping to use something that can scan pages
[23:31] <liminal> okay sleep
[23:31] <pmcclelland> like php being disabled in userdir by default
[23:32] <Brimstones> Macer: A pdf will be split into pages automatically i think, otherwise therell be some cmd to the ps* cmd's to adjust for that.
[23:32] <pmcclelland> when it worked fine in the last release
[23:32] <Typos_King> Macer:  xsane, kooka
[23:32] <Macer> kooka?
[23:32] <Typos_King> yes, is a scan app
[23:33] <Macer> have to add a repo for it?
[23:33] <Typos_King> not sure if it does to pdf, but that's a minor issue once the doc is scanned
[23:33] <Typos_King> Macer:  xsane, kooka are both old apps, newer versions will be in the repos, kooka is kde's default scan app
[23:33] <Brimstones> Macer: xscanimage, scanimage (xsane)
[23:33] <Jordan_U> limen_: Funny, when I was trying to find information about getting past ARccOS protection on linux my google-foo failed me. I just tried ddrescue to see what would happen and was surprised when it actually made a working iso. But now I see that I am of course not the first person to find that ddrescue gets passed it, as there are many posts online about it. So it's very likely that it will work for your disk as well :)
[23:34] <jm2> macer: look at the ocr  programs for scanning text
[23:34] <Macer> ah.. i'm running kubuntu
[23:34] <Macer> maybe it's there already
[23:34] <Brimstones> Macer: you want to automate the scanning to pdf right ?
[23:34] <Brimstones> Macer: k*something is a gui
[23:34] <Brimstones> mostly
[23:35] <Macer> Brimstones: yeah. i know. ;)
[23:35] <Silverguy> Hello, I'm having some issues with my graphics driver on Ubuntu 10.04, I don't seem to be able to anti-alias
[23:35] <Macer> Brimstones: if i could yes
[23:35] <Macer> but i'm not seeing kooka in kubuntu's repos
[23:36] <Macer> let me see if i can find it and have to add a repo
[23:36] <wertwertgfhjrer> is 10.04 out?
[23:36] <zaxonspox> wertwertgfhjrer only RC1
[23:36] <Silverguy> not right now, however the BETA is the only thing that runs on my comp
[23:36] <Silverguy> 9.10 throws a fit on install
[23:37] <Brimstones> Macer: I investigated these things alot a year ago or so. I was costructing a program for talking to the USB C-PEN but it required Firmware that i dont think was distributable :( ... Hand scanner pen.
[23:37] <Brimstones> Macer: I wanted to use it with gocr and those things
[23:37] <Macer> oh
[23:37] <Macer> well. i'm reading their site now
[23:37] <Macer> maybe i can figure something out in a little bit
[23:38] <Macer> but i just don't want to have to install windows on the box simply for scanning docs
[23:38] <Macer> :)
[23:38] <Silverguy> I'm using an ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4560 card
[23:38] <Brimstones> Ok, ill be on... wathing a western with some Jack D though :P
[23:38] <limen_> Jordan_U, thats strange - I tried the dd_rescue and it spits out alot of "failed blocks"- Does the iso work anyway?
[23:38] <Silverguy> It has anti-aliasing in Windows but I can't get it with the driver from Hardware drivers or the open source one
[23:39] <Typos_King> Macer:  ... odd, I don't see it in the repos either :{
[23:39] <Macer> Typos_King: heh
[23:39] <Macer> yeah.. that is odd
[23:39] <Jordan_U> Brimstones: Broadcom wireless cards have the same problem, distros get past it by using a script that downloads the windows driver directly from broadcom's site and extracts the firmware from it.
[23:39] <Brimstones> limen_: Change HD if its going down.
[23:39] <Macer> maybe they don't have a kde 4.x ver of it
[23:39] <Jordan_U> Brimstones: See b43-fwcutter and its postinst.
[23:40] <Typos_King> Macer:  that means another app does it in kde4
[23:40] <Jordan_U> limen_: dd_rescue or ddrescue?
[23:40] <Brimstones> Jordan_U: Yeah, but its not how id like it. I could call them and demand the source though :)
[23:40] <Macer> The latest release of Kooka is 0.44 for KDE 3.2.x: Download the source archive (tar.bz2, about 1.2MB)
[23:40] <Macer> libkscan sources are included
[23:40] <Macer> heh
[23:40] <Macer> kde 3.2.x :)
[23:41] <Macer> let me ask in #kde
[23:41] <Fiveways> i should try kde one day
[23:41] <Typos_King> Macer:  http://kooka.kde.org/news/
[23:41] <Typos_King> hehe
[23:41] <Brimstones> Jordan_U: Ill get back to fixing that later, but i need more data to make it work.
[23:41] <Jordan_U> Brimstones: Just don't let it keep you from releasing a valuable piece of software :)
[23:41] <owner> I'm new on here is there a program like fab decryter for linux ?
[23:41] <wertwertgfhjrer> is the cpu load saved anywhere in a file?
[23:41] <mewshi> how do I keep my screen from going blank when the computer is idle?
[23:41] <Brimstones> Jordan_U: Naah, i like to release my software
[23:42] <Typos_King> owner:  to rip/encode dvds?
[23:42] <Fiveways> ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[23:42] <Fiveways> -_-
[23:42] <Fiveways> same thing
[23:42] <wertwertgfhjrer> mewshi, go to power management
[23:42] <mewshi> I already looked there
[23:42] <Typos_King> mewshi:   turn off    ... standby after so many minutes
[23:42] <Macer> Typos_King: that was from 2007
[23:42] <owner> well to burn them to be able to play on a dvd player
[23:42] <Macer> heh
[23:42] <Macer> so i guess no scanning software for kde anymore? :)
[23:43] <Typos_King> Macer:  it seems that Gimp can do scanning as well, so
[23:43] <ogen> Please help me find out how to limit the burn speed in brasero.
[23:43] <ldiamond> I have setup raid 1 disks on my ICH10R, working properly on Windows7. However, on Ubuntu, the disks are not picked up as being Raid (according to dmraid). Can anyone give me a hand with that?
[23:43] <smt> hi, anybody with knowledge about DSDT Tables?
[23:43] <wertwertgfhjrer> mewshi, go to terminal and type gnome-power-preferences. the rest is self explaining
[23:43] <jm2> mecer: cscan2pdf ?
[23:44] <Macer> Typos_King: yeah but document scanning?
[23:44] <Macer> i doubt gimp would do the document thing :)
[23:44] <Typos_King> owner:    to burn them you just need a burning app, dvdfab decrypter only rips AFAIK
[23:44] <Fiveways> yesterday, i installed the newest nvidia drivers from the site and couldnt boot to gui...followed some howtos from the forums, still didnt work
[23:44] <Brimstones> Macer: I use GTK+ to code for both KDE and GNOME. Its just a programming language.
[23:44] <Fiveways> someone else told me to try installing them from the hardware drivers menu in ubuntu
[23:44] <Fiveways> now i get a flickering prompt...any idea what i should try next?
[23:44] <Macer> Brimstones: but i doubt that gimp would scan documents
[23:44] <Macer> :)
[23:44] <owner> what is AFAIK?
[23:45] <mewshi> let me rephrase the question:  I want to prevent the screen from locking after so many minutes.  How do I do this?
[23:45] <Typos_King> Macer:  the libkscan is included, is just a matter to have a client-app call it, I gather something like digiKam and Gimp call it for scanning, thus
[23:45] <Macer> i mean it CAN .. but the documents would be images for each page.. that requires too much manual work to scan a document
[23:45] <[JFET]> owner: AFAIK = as far as i know
[23:45] <Brimstones> Macer: It does, but uses xsane for it i think.
[23:45] <limen_> Jordan_U, is there a difference?
[23:45] <Macer> so does that mean that xsane does it on its own? :)
[23:45] <[JFET]> guys, how/where can i file an ubuntu-related openldap bug?
[23:46] <jm2> mewshi - system - preferences  - screensaver  (choose minutes to lock screen)
[23:46] <Jordan_U> limen_: Yes, the two are in fact almost completely unrelated except by name :)
[23:46] <Macer> let me install it and i'll take a look at xsane
[23:46] <Typos_King> owner:   as far as I know, AFAIK :)
[23:47] <Typos_King> [JFET]:   I'd assume there's an openldap channel
[23:47] <owner> ok thanks that makes sense. I have a burner & but it won't let mecopy any store bought
[23:47] <Macer> skanlite?
[23:47] <Macer> :)
[23:47] <[JFET]> Typos_King: I think this is about /etc/init.d script parametering
[23:48] <[JFET]>  /etc/defaults/slapd to be precise
[23:48] <Macer> that looks like it might be what i need... let me hook my other kubuntu box back up and try it out
[23:48] <ogen> I'd appreciate some help. I've looked thru all the menus myself. Please help me find out how to limit the burn speed in brasero. If there is a way?
[23:48] <[JFET]> still openldap?
[23:48] <Macer> i have a ton of bills i need to scan and shred and don't have a win box anymore other than my aspire1 netbook
[23:48] <Macer> and the only reason i kept windows on it was to make sure i could scan still :)
[23:49] <Typos_King> [JFET]:   can't say... all you can do here is ask :)
[23:49] <limen_> Jordan_U, ohh :) Downloaded the package ddrescue wich have this descriptition http://paste.ubuntu.com/421908/
[23:49] <ogen> mewshi I didnt see your initial question but I've been getting locking too.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> limen_: Install the package "gddrescue"
[23:49] <barbarella> ogen:when you are going to burn, click on properties, there you can change the speed
[23:49] <owner> I know on a windows program you used to have to use decrypter then use shrink but since decrypter was bought out they say you have to buy it
[23:49] <ogen> barbarella, click on properties where, of what, at which point in the process?
[23:50] <ogen> barbarella, let me find a disc so I get go further.
[23:50] <[JFET]> okay. so if I specify multiple interfaces where slapd would listen (-h ldap://alpha.fqdn.tld ldap://localhost/ ldapi:/// as ubunut suggests) it won't recognise olcServerID cocnfigs and multimaster replication will be broken
[23:50] <barbarella> ogen:did you insert de cd or dvd?
[23:51] <Brimstones> Macer: I use Gestetner printer/scanners to make PDF's of whole book-style-things and then email them to someone in one swoop! :=) / Granted you need one of those first
[23:51] <limen_> Jordan_U, I have - and is now running "sudo ddrescue /dev/cdrom Video/friends.iso friends_ddrescue.log"
[23:51]  * Fiveways sighs
[23:51] <ogen> barbarella, I did one last night regular speed. I am only doing cd's now. I have no disk in. Will need to get it now.. in box below here.
[23:51] <barbarella> [JFET]:netstat would say
[23:51] <Fiveways> anyone using hardware acceleration on an nvidia card?
[23:51] <barbarella> ogen:yes
[23:51] <Brimstones> Fiveways: Its impolite to sigh out loud.
[23:52] <[JFET]> you were right, it is openldap side error. openldap expects its configuration like this
[23:52] <Mr_Crowley> how can i make ubuntu start only on console mode
[23:52] <Fiveways> Brimstones: what if its a sigh of relief? :)
[23:52] <barbarella> ogen:then go for properties and change the speed
[23:52] <ogen> barbarella, have disk in, just aminute to decide what to burn.
[23:52] <Brimstones> Fiveways: Plus it brings you down to say it. Its better to say "Yeehaw!!!" :)
[23:52] <ogen> barbarella, properties of What?
[23:52] <Mr_Crowley> what file is that ?
[23:52] <Typos_King> Mr_Crowley:    use the 'recovery mode' entry from grub :)
[23:52] <Fiveways> Brimstones: ive been having the same problem for 2 days now
[23:52] <limen_> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/421912/ (Ilove pastebin :) )
[23:52] <Brimstones> Fiveways: You on lucid ?
[23:53] <Fiveways> no, im on karmic
[23:53] <mont3furi4> HI
[23:53] <barbarella> ogen:why don't you try gnomebaker
[23:53] <Fiveways> every time i try to install these nvidia drivers (even the ones recommended in the hardware drivers) i have issues
[23:53] <Brimstones> Fiveways: A problem with the latest updates ? Cant run OpenGL apps on my lucid
[23:54] <alket> Is there anyway to keep evolution open after close (in notification tray)
[23:55] <mont3furi4> ITS THERE OTHERS CHATS IN HERE?
[23:55] <mont3furi4> ROOM
[23:55] <Jordan_U> limen_: The problem, if I understand it correctly, is that the DVD has been made so that some blocks have an incorrect crc, which makes it seem to the OS like the read has failed because the crc of the date doesn't match the crc stored on the DVD.
[23:55] <Brimstones> Fiveways: It keeps telling me that nvidia96 blah blah activated something. Removing it and then adding it again (act/deactivate) doesnt help.
[23:55] <Fiveways> yeah
[23:55] <Brimstones> ok
[23:56] <barbarella> alket:alltray maybe?
[23:56] <Jordan_U> limen_: Normally the OS skips the entire block when it encounters this, and this is what ddrescue will do on its first pass.
[23:56] <Fiveways> i guess i just wont be using hardware acceleration
[23:56] <Brimstones> My girlfriend wants to play Plants VS Zombies but that wont run good wo OpenGL / Accel.
[23:56] <Fiveways> yeah
[23:56] <Fiveways> this is why i stopped using osx on my other pc
[23:56] <alket> barbarella: No, Im in lucid, when I close empathy or gwiiber it stays open but not evolution
[23:57] <Brimstones> Fiveways: It would be nice if those nvidias/atis would release their source (One fits both im sure)
[23:57] <tomatoes7> when is lucid netbook remix being released?
[23:57] <Fiveways> everything was working except graphics acceleration
[23:57] <Fiveways> heh
[23:57] <ogen> barbarella, Now I have bracero open - a blank disk in and - the files to burn chosen. I'm ready for instructions. (smile. thanks.)
[23:57] <zleap> tomatoes7, i guess april 29th,  you could download the beta 2
[23:57] <popo> I just installed a new theme with theme installer. It's not in preferences > appearance. Where the heck is it?
[23:57] <barbarella> alket:then try apt-get install mail-notification
[23:58] <wertwertgfhjrer> Mr_Crowley, sudo nano /etc/default/grub and change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" to text, then update-grub and restart
[23:58] <alket> barbarella: Is it for evolution ?
[23:58] <limen_> Jordan_U, Doesn't really know what crc is but a quick google tells me it's some kind of cecksum. So the author of the DVD have invented a copy-protection based on giving bad checksums?
[23:58] <barbarella> alket:mail default
[23:59] <ogen> barbarella, are you telling me that it cannot be done in Bracero?
[23:59] <Brimstones> Fiveways: I bet its a US or English product, duplicated and sent to Taiwan and Japan for further enhancements/worsifications and duplications. And they in turn could be told to never ever be allowed to release the sources that are initially the same code.
[23:59] <Brimstones> etc
[23:59] <timClicks> is there an apt-remove-respository command?
[23:59] <ogen> barbarella, are you telling me that it cannot be done in Bracero?  (when you suggest gnomebaker - which I never heard of, assume it is another burning program. )


[02:41] <kcormier> hey all.  So what are the best recommended remote and pvr for a myth setup?  budget of $350 for both. (i know this is subjective, just looking for recommendations)
[02:45] <mrand> kcormier: a number of tuners and capture devices come with mce remotes, most of which work great.
[02:49] <mrand> as for which tuner, depends on what you want to do.  You said earlier that you had a cable box - are you going to continue with that, or change to something else?  If you switch to over-the-air, then HDHR is the best choice.  If you plan to stick with cable and you want HD, then the HD-PVR 1212 is  pretty much the only way to go right now.
[02:54] <kcormier> i want high def cable.  rhpot1991 was telling me about how he controls via firewire and records via a pvr.  I think this is what I would most like to duplicate.
[02:55] <mrand> kcormier: yep.  Looks like the 1212 is onsale right now... http://www.erwincomputers.com/1212.html or a few dollars more at Amazon.
[02:55] <Zinn> [www.erwincomputers.com] Hauppauge HD PVR High-Definition H.264 Video Recorder (1212)
[02:57] <mrand> kcormier: can your computer handle Hidef playback?
[02:58] <kcormier> quad core amd w/ 4 gigs of ram as a front end/back end.  Integrated video though I think.  Willing to upgrade that if I can fit it all in that $350 budget.
[02:59] <kcormier> integrated Radeon HD 4200
[03:00] <kcormier> have you used erwincomputers.com before?  it is 20 bucks more at newegg.
[03:00] <Zinn> [erwincomputers.com] ERWINCOMP.COM - Electronics, GPS, Cell Phones, Computers, and Gadgets
[03:01] <mrand> I haven't, but I found it via google shopping and it had huge number of good reviews.  I'd check reseller ratings also, but assuming I didn't find anything, I'd probably go for it.
[03:02] <mrand> For true high-def playback, you might need something approaching 3 GHz since you have integrated graphics.
[03:02] <mrand> Since it is what you have, might as well try it... if it stutters, then buy an Nvidia VDPAU capable card.
[03:05] <kcormier> good to know.  always been a big fan of rr.  It is 2.9 GHz quad core.   It will be doing double duty running VirtualBox as well so it may be good to upgrade in the future (shouldn't ever be doing both though).
[03:05] <mrand> I'll bet it does just fine.
[03:06] <kcormier> so the remote that comes with the 1212 is acceptable?  A little excited to get started with this.  Will be ordering the new cable box tomorrow to go w/ the pvr so I can get started hopefully early next week.
[03:08] <mrand> Unless there is a driver level problem with the one on the 1212, it should be fine.  If there is a problem, alternative mce remotes are a dime a dozen.
[03:20] <rhpot1991> kcormier: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/13
[03:20] <Zinn> [www.baablogic.net] My MythTV Setup | www.baablogic.net
[03:21] <mrand> kcormier: doesn't look like the driver problem in the 1212 has been resolved yet: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/445502   You might as well get it and try it out... if it doesn't work, then buy a different one.   Just know that you don't have to buy rhpot1991's $432 remote ;-)
[03:21] <Zinn> [www.gossamer-threads.com] HDPVR and lirc_zilog drive me crazy | MythTV | Users
[03:21] <rhpot1991> haha
[03:21] <rhpot1991> mrand: I only own 2 890s
[03:22] <rhpot1991> and a very expensive onkyo receiver
[03:22] <rhpot1991> you could use a remote with the HDHR too
[03:23] <rhpot1991> kcormier: I've very happy with the combination of HDHR and HDPVR, allows me to record anything I want
[03:23] <mrand> kcormier: Are you wanting channels only available via cable?
[03:24] <mrand> rhpot1991: he can always go for the HDHR later
[03:27] <rhpot1991> mrand: ya not sure how I feel about which to recommend first
[03:27] <rhpot1991> will be interesting to see what happens when the hdhr-prime comes about
[03:28] <mrand> I checked their forums just yesterday - still no word on the beta even, so it'll still be a while.
[03:28] <mrand> To me it is a no brainer... the HDPVR is usable for every channel.  HDHR is not.
[03:28] <rhpot1991> mrand: HDHR can record 4+ shows at once, and is cheaper
[03:29] <rhpot1991> that plus firewire and you are good
[03:29] <rhpot1991> HDPVR can record one at a time, and required another stb
[03:29] <mrand> unless the shows he wants are on encrypted channels.
[03:29] <rhpot1991> wich is $9-13 a month
[03:29] <mrand> I understand what you mean.
[03:29] <rhpot1991> mrand: depends on his firewire I guess
[03:30] <rhpot1991> I was able to get by with firewire for ages, only channel I missed was FXHD
[03:30] <rhpot1991> and at the time the shield was only in SD
[03:30] <rhpot1991> so pvr-x50 got that
[03:30] <kcormier> sorry i disappeared.  set up hulu so i could watch something while I wait for parts, gonna catch up
[03:36] <kcormier> so I didn't quite follow your previous convo.  What is the hdhr?  Also, is anyone else using hulu on mythbuntu?  how is the video quality?
[03:36] <mrand> kcormier: so our mini-debate really revolves around which channels you are likely to be wanting to record from.  If they are encrypted, you need the HDPVR (aka 1212).
[03:36] <mrand> If they aren't, then the HDHR is less expensive and can capture more shows at once.
[03:37] <kcormier> ahh.  gotcha.  hdpvr.
[03:38] <kcormier> comcast is locking out a LOT of their channels with encryption of some type (can't pick it up with my tv)
[03:38] <kcormier> and because of where I am, there is very little over the air signal.
[03:39] <rhpot1991> kcormier: http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels/
[03:39] <Zinn> [www.silicondust.com] Channels « Welcome to SiliconDust
[03:39] <rhpot1991> plug your zip in there
[03:39] <rhpot1991> that said, anything not your locals in HD will most likely go away
[03:39] <rhpot1991> the channels 1-78 were thrown in clear QAM for the digital transition and will move away at some point
[03:40] <rhpot1991> so you should ignore them so you aren't sad when they go goodbye
[03:41] <kcormier> lol.  alright.  I'm gonna do the hdpvr for now.  When things settle I might add the hdhd or equivalent of the time so that I can record anything open w/ that, and still have the pvr to fall back for the stuff that is encrypted if it makes sense then.
[03:41] <kcormier> but I can see where the hdhd would be nice
[03:41] <kcormier> those are all the over the air channels?
[03:42] <rhpot1991> kcormier: comcast should broadcast all your locals in clear QAM
[03:42] <rhpot1991> and the HDHR can do what is called multirec, so it can record multiple shows on a tuner as long as they are in the same multiplex
[03:42] <rhpot1991> multiplex is the right word, right mrand?
[03:43] <rhpot1991> so for me I can record I think CBS and Fox at the same time
[03:43] <rhpot1991> and then ABC and NBC are different
[03:44] <kcormier> gotcha
[03:44] <rhpot1991> kcormier: you could hope that woot has HDHRs again
[03:44] <rhpot1991> they had them for 85 a few days ago
[03:46] <kcormier> decent.  I'd like to be able to do the encrypted stuff, so I'm gonna go with the pvr for now.  But I like the idea of the hdhr down the road.
[03:46] <kcormier> if comcast doesn't lock everything up
[03:47] <rhpot1991> kcormier: by law (not that it matters much) they have to give you your locals
[03:49] <kcormier> good to know.  I'm willing to give em hell.
[03:49] <Zinn> kcormier: Please watch your language.
[03:52] <kcormier> my bad.  Anyone here using hulu with mythtv on an hdtv?
[03:56] <mrand> kcormier: I'd check the ubuntu forums, or mythtv-users mailing list archive
[03:56] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: ^ you still?
[03:57] <rhpot1991> kcormier: I tried it and wasn't impressed, thats about as far as I got
[04:00] <mrand> Everyone wave goodbye to google wave.
[04:01] <kcormier> i'm using it now.  i really like hulu.  It's just very choppy.  really kinda aggravating me right now.
[04:01] <rhpot1991> kcormier: pretty much, flash sucks
[04:02] <rhpot1991> mrand: where is it going?
[04:02] <mrand> rhpot1991: you didn't use it, so they're giving up.
[04:17] <rhpot1991> but I did
[05:14] <kcormier> do you guys think upgrading from an integrated graphics card would help hulu playback at 1920x1080?  Right now it is cpu bound (single threaded :-\)
[05:14] <kcormier> Or do you guys think the flash player is just hopeless?
[05:44] <rhpot1991> kcormier: mostly cpu there I think
[05:44] <rhpot1991> flash doesn't utilize GPU to offload, especially not in linux
[05:45] <rhpot1991> kcormier: that said I'd recommend a VDPAU capable card for anything myth related
[05:45] <rhpot1991> !vdpau | kcormier
[05:45] <Zinn> kcormier: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU
[10:28] <hot_wheelz> can anyone confirm there is a bug repoprt in for this error - More info to follow
[10:30] <hot_wheelz> after installing some updates and then clicking restart i get the following msg - reboot failed please restart manually
[10:30] <hot_wheelz> but the system reboots anyway
[10:31] <hot_wheelz> I will  test it on my laptop give me a min
[10:32] <hot_wheelz> Runnning ubutu 10.04 on laptop
[10:32] <hot_wheelz> back in a min
[10:39] <hot_wheelz> mmm..nope  didn't get the error in regular ubuntu 10.04
[10:39] <hot_wheelz> has anyone else seen this?
[11:41] <christip> Hi, after every boot of my mythbuntu 10.04 system I get the following error when trying to watch live tv: "Error: MythTV is using all inputs, but there are no active recordings?". I use mythtv version 25409 (trunk) and a Hauppauge HVR 1900 (I use the analog input).
[11:42] <christip> To temporarily fix this issue I have to close mythfrontend, open mythbackend setup, go to the TV card section, delete the string "/dev/video0" and write exactly the same string in again. After rebooting the error occurs again. Does anybody know how to fix this problem?
[14:22] <mrand> christip: Have you tried just restarting the backend?
[15:08] <dewman> isnt there a banner that used to show up when you ssh into your mythbox?
[15:09] <dewman> I cant remember what that package was...
[15:16] <mrand> I don't know about the package.   Is there something in your /etc/motd?
[15:16] <rhpot1991> dewman: mythtv-status?
[15:16] <rhpot1991> or do you mean byobu?
[15:17] <dewman> mythtv-status, is that a package?
[15:19] <rhpot1991> john@unicron:~$ apt-cache search mythtv-status
[15:19] <rhpot1991> mythtv-status - Show the status of a MythTV backend
[15:21] <mrand> just execute mythtv-status from the command line
[15:24] <dewman> ok, well it says it depends on libmyth-perl but it wont be installed.
[15:24] <dewman> so....I will need to figure that problem out..
[15:26] <dewman> found it...
[15:26] <dewman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/510215
[15:26] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #510215 in Mythbuntu: “Can't [re]install mythtv-status”
[15:29] <rhpot1991> dewman: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:33] <dewman> rhpot1991, Just did it.....Same thing....
[15:33] <rhpot1991> dewman: which version of ubuntu/mythbuntu?
[15:34] <rhpot1991> and are you running autobuilds?
[15:34] <dewman> yep, it appears in that bug report that I should have the testing repo turned on.
[15:35] <dewman> .23
[15:35] <dewman> 9.10
[15:35] <dewman> opps.. lacking the typing skills today.
[15:37] <rhpot1991> dewman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-repos
[15:37] <rhpot1991> and enable the testing ppa
[15:38] <rhpot1991> then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mythtv-status
[15:39] <dewman> rhpot1991, I think that did it... =)
[15:40] <dewman> woohoo....It worked.
[15:40] <rhpot1991> dewman: great
[15:40] <dewman> Status..........: Thu Aug 5 2010, 10:39 AM
[15:40] <dewman> Total Disk Space: Total space is 1,078.1 GB, with 770.6 GB used (71.5%)
[15:40] <rhpot1991> you need more hard drives :)
[15:41] <dewman> I know.....
[15:41] <dewman> Actually I need to start watching shows...
[15:41] <rhpot1991> Total Disk Space: Total space is 3,192.3 GB, with 2,739.9 GB used (85.8%)
[15:41] <dewman> haha....So do you!
[15:41] <rhpot1991> and that doesn't include my 1TB external drive for videos :)
[15:42] <rhpot1991> sadly my backend can't hold any more drives though
[15:43] <dewman> yeah that brings up another sore item for me......I was toying with mytharchive for a little bit, but just couldnt get it to work correctly, so instead of archiving everything, I will just need to watch it...
[15:43] <dewman> I'm out of slots, ide channels, and sata channels.
[15:44] <dewman> so yes, bigger hd's are the main factor.
[15:47] <mrand> Total Disk Space.: Total space is 465.5 GB, with 439.4 GB used (94.4%)
[15:48] <mrand> *I* need more hard drives
[15:49] <rhpot1991> mrand: yes you do
[15:49] <rhpot1991> and some HD
[15:49] <dewman> wow.....
[15:50] <dewman> thats cutting it close..
[15:50] <mrand> That's my /var parition.
[15:52] <mrand> I should probably clean out some logs.  Myth sometimes goes mad-dog crazy.
[15:55] <Gibby> what is the default desktop? I am trying to use NX to remote in but can'
[15:55] <Gibby> t get any of the desktops to work except XFCE and it is all funky
[15:55] <mrand> Gibby: I'm typing to you right now on gnome via NX.
[15:55] <mrand> dewman: no, this is cutting it close: /dev/md0                 46601     34065     10130  78% /boot
[15:56] <Gibby> mrand: Wierd......
[15:57] <rhpot1991> NX plays well with gnome, not so much with xfce in my experience
[15:57] <dewman> mrand, yep
[15:57] <Gibby> mrand: If I select GNOME with NX for my mythbackend it just gives me a black screen... I have NX working on about 5 other servers with no problems
[15:57] <rhpot1991> I haven't used it in ages, but it used to spawn off all sorts of windows back then
[15:57] <rhpot1991> Gibby: mythbuntu uses xfce by default, ubuntu uses gnome
[15:58] <mrand> Gibby: I assume you've tried firing up a gnome session locally to make sure it's installed and working correctly?
[15:58] <kcormier1> crap.  i missed the first part of this convo.  was just planning on setting up nx today too
[15:58] <Gibby> well whatever the default is for the mythbuntu backend
[15:58] <rhpot1991> kcormier1: vnc
[15:58] <mrand> kcormier1: you didn't miss much... just that Gibby is having trouble.
[15:59] <Gibby> mrand: I am having all sorts of "server" issues this week at home and work errrrr
[15:59] <kcormier1> gotcha.  I'd rather nx as I can do it from outside my lan.  Sorry to hear Gibby.
[15:59] <Gibby> kcormier1: NX is usually easy and straight forward
[15:59] <rhpot1991> Gibby: I think you need to select xfce, but like I said last time I used NX it didn't play as well with xfce as it did with gnome
[16:00] <Gibby> rhpot1991: it doesn't give me all the options in XFCE, like network and crap
[16:00] <mrand> Gibby: I'd log into a gnome session on the backend locally to make sure gnome is running right.
[16:01] <Gibby> ugh, the server is in a rack already :(
[16:01] <rhpot1991> mrand: you are running ubuntu with mythtv packages and not mythbuntu then?
[16:01] <mrand> rhpot1991: correct.  But Gibby should be able to log out of the xfce session and then log in with a gnome session.
[16:02] <rhpot1991> mrand: I'm not so sure about that, I believe the gnome packages will not be installed
[16:02] <mrand> rhpot1991: that's my point ;-)
[16:04] <kcormier> are you using freenx from the repo or are you using the debs from nomachine?
[16:05] <rhpot1991> mrand: ya if he was running gnome NX would talk much better with it
[16:06] <Gibby> debs from nomachine
[16:06] <kcormier> how did you configure the client?
[16:06] <mrand> rhpot1991:  "ubuntu desktop" on mcc refers to gnome, doesn't it?
[16:07] <kcormier> when you configure the desktop, did you click settings to run a custom command?
[16:07] <kcormier> http://geekyprojects.com/general/manage-mythtv-remotely-with-nx/
[16:07] <Zinn> [geekyprojects.com]    Manage Your MythTV Box Remotely Using NX | geekyprojects.com
[16:08] <rhpot1991> mrand: I believe so
[16:09] <rhpot1991> what kcormier pasted looks very familiar
[16:09] <rhpot1991> it spawned off a bunch of windows every time I conneced though
[16:10] <rhpot1991> and thats when I went to vnc instead
[16:10] <kcormier> spawned off windows on your client or server?
[16:10] <rhpot1991> kcormier: client
[16:11] <mrand> I've never had that trouble
[16:11] <rhpot1991> this was quite some time ago too, so maybe its better now, who knows
[16:11] <mrand> But then again, I don't do xfce remotely
[16:11] <rhpot1991> mrand: only happened with xfce, not gnome
[16:16] <Gibby> i will test that in a second, trying to find how to launch vlc on my master for stream.... it was in my bash history but havn't used it in a couple weeks and it is gone :(
[16:19] <Gibby> it worked however, it is not "correct" missing alot in the top info bar
[16:20] <mrand> Gibby: mine goes a bit crazy on rare occasions and I have to shut it down and restart it.
[16:20] <mrand> You saying vnc worked or nx?
[16:21] <Gibby> NX
[16:21] <Gibby> what is the cli to launch the network gui?
[16:23] <mrand> Actually, now that I think about it, I haven't had trouble in many many months... probably after I upgraded versions.  If you just pulled the .deb though, that shouldn't be it.  Uhhh, not sure what you're referring to Gibby.
[16:24] <Gibby> mrand: usually on the top right you can click and change network options, like ip and dns and gateway but it is not there when I use NX, i know there is a cli i can use to launch it just don't remember what it is for buntu
[16:30] <mrand> Gibby: Ah, you mean the standard Ubuntu thing.  That icon has never shown up on a remote sessions for me.  nm-applet maybe?
[16:33] <Gibby> ugh
[16:35] <Gibby> had to kill it then restart it, thanks mrand
[16:35] <mrand> Gibby: gui version: I believe it may be sudo network-admin.
[16:38] <Gibby> mrand: sudo nm-applet worked
[17:18] <Gibby> damn, i need another server....... hmmmmmm
[17:18] <Zinn> Gibby: Please watch your language.
[18:10] <kees-jan> Hi
[18:10] <kees-jan> Has anyone packaged mythtv 0.23.1 yet?
[18:10] <superm1> yes
[18:10] <superm1> it's on the 0.23.1 PPA
[18:10] <superm1> i'm not sure if mythbuntu-repos  will offer it yet though
[18:10] <superm1> tgm4883 have you published a version to that will?
[18:11] <tgm4883> superm1, no
[18:11] <tgm4883> unless you want me to stop work on mythbuntu-bare :)
[18:11] <mrand> hah.  wasn't it just last week that tgm4883 swore that no more changes would be needed?
[18:11] <superm1> haha
[18:11] <superm1> yeah i think it was
[18:11] <tgm4883> !stab mrand
[18:11]  * Zinn stabs mrand with a rusty spork.
[18:11] <superm1> we showed him
[18:11] <mrand> lol
[18:11] <tgm4883> yea, don't remind me
[18:12] <superm1> kees-jan, you can manually enable the PPA if you want to
[18:12] <tgm4883> -repos will either A) always need to be touched
[18:12] <tgm4883> or B) we will need it to download a file during compile that will always need to be touched
[18:12] <superm1> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/0.23.1
[18:12] <Zinn> [edge.launchpad.net] 0.23.1 : “Mythbuntu Developers” team
[18:12] <mrand> tgm4883: I'm not scared of rusty sporks anymore... I just got my tetanus shot.  Iin prep for going to Taiwan.
[18:12] <tgm4883> should just need to replace the 0.23 with 0.23.1 in mythbuntu-repos.list
[18:12] <superm1> B is better
[18:13] <tgm4883> superm1, yes, B is better
[18:13] <tgm4883> and how I plan on doing it
[18:13] <superm1> especially if it happens during the autobuilds magic
[18:13] <tgm4883> i'm up against FF though with -bare
[18:13] <mrand> superm1: think it would hurt to wait one more week on the repo stuff?
[18:13] <tgm4883> so unless someone wants to work on -bare with me, patches are welcome :)
[18:14] <superm1> sorry i'm up my knees on ubiquity stuff atm
[18:14] <tgm4883> mrand, probably fine with waiting a week, but we need to get the final 0.23 build pushed
[18:15] <mrand> tgm4883: I wasn't considering it a feature, so I was figuring it could go in after FF.
[18:15] <tgm4883> yea it's a feature
[18:15] <mrand> hrm
[18:15] <tgm4883> i'm pretty sure anyway
[18:15] <tgm4883> superm1, ^
[18:15] <superm1> bare is
[18:15] <superm1> repos isn't
[18:15] <tgm4883> yea
[18:15] <mrand> That's what I meant.
[18:15] <tgm4883> cause it adds functionality
[18:16] <superm1> and based on the ubuntu-tweak discussion that's happening, i dont see us getting buy off still on the inclusion of something to enable PPAs so easily still
[18:16]  * mrand needs to read up on tweak vs. opportunistic-apps-stable-release
[18:17] <tgm4883> !stab opportunistic-apps-stable-release
[18:17]  * Zinn stabs opportunistic-apps-stable-release with a sharpened mce remote.
[18:27] <kees-jan> superm1: Just finished installing 0.23.1. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!


[16:06] <rbasak> Are we having a meeting today?
[16:06] <rbasak> Not much has happened over the holidays I think, and I believe three are away.
[16:06] <nacc> rbasak: i'm fine either way
[16:07]  * smb would also just be back from vacation and not have news
[16:07] <rharper> might have more next week
[16:07] <rbasak> Let's say that we're skipping today unless someone objects in the next seven minutes.
[16:07] <smb> ack