[21:10] <pronoy> TheNewGuy: try to keep it in one line buddy or floodbot will jump u
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> JorgeJorgesson, you have checked that it has a checkmark in System / Admin / Services - Database server (mysql) ?
[21:10] <mangospork> Hey guys, I'm on gentoo. You know the application usb-creator? I wanted to use that over gentoo, does anyone know an alternative?
[21:10] <mangospork> or something/
[21:10] <klenz> DasEi well i go to network and then find it via the gui
[21:10] <JorgeJorgesson> ZykoticK9: I tried everything and it will just not start automatically.  I searched in #mysql, #ubuntu-server, #ubuntu....no luck.  You are the only one that I've met that have it working.
[21:10] <edbian> TheNewGuy: You have to remove all the flash packages except the one you want to use.  If you don't they sort of block each other out and it is difficult to get the system to use the one you want.
[21:10] <TheNewGuy> ok, will try it out .. .and one line.   also What is sudu?
[21:10] <JorgeJorgesson> ZykoticK9: yup
[21:10] <machinebacon> TheNewGuy i'm afraid gnash is already in firefox
[21:10] <Yournam> Hi, what does the rule have to be so I can allow access to port 80 from selected IPs?
[21:10] <klenz> DasEi basically i use nautillus to find it
[21:10] <Pici> pronoy: I'm not sure whats going on with that, sorry.
[21:10] <crashanddie> mangospork, compile from source?
[21:10] <vigo> xiong: Then that needs filing. or did you also see the #ubuntu-bugs channel that was posted a moment ago?
[21:10] <DasEi> klenz : so do that now, and get it mounted
[21:11] <machinebacon> !sudo
[21:11] <wolfgang> i have a question
[21:11] <Yournam> Allow access to HTTP only from selected IPs
[21:11] <pronoy> Pici you won't believe this but i did the apt-get install again and the update using manager and it totally work...Hahaha..how did you do that :)...lol
[21:11] <crashanddie> Yournam, deny from all, allow ip,ip,ip
[21:11] <ZykoticK9> JorgeJorgesson, I'm affraid I have no other suggestions for you.  Sorry man - it just works for me out of the box???
[21:11] <klenz> DasEi ok done
[21:11] <edbian> TheNewGuy: sudo: gives root power, apt-get: program for downloading / installing software from the repos, flashplugin-nonfree: name of a software package in the repos.
[21:11] <Yournam> crashanddie: Can't seem to get the proper command...
[21:11] <pronoy> Pici: i meant apt-get update
[21:11] <Pici> pronoy: ah :)
[21:11] <guntbert> !ask | wolfgang
[21:11] <machinebacon> TheNewGuy trry to remove gnash first
[21:11] <JorgeJorgesson> ZykoticK9: good for you!  Glad it worked.
[21:11] <wolfgang> yeah i know sorry didnt mean to just really blazed
[21:11] <TheNewGuy> can i un-install gnash?
[21:12] <crashanddie> Yournam, you need to edit a configuration file, the vhost to be more specific (assuming you're using apache)
[21:12] <edbian> TheNewGuy: sudo apt-get remove gnash
[21:12] <wolfgang> i just installed vsftpd
[21:12] <DasEi> Yournam: iptables, hosts.allow, hosts.deny
[21:12] <ZykoticK9> JorgeJorgesson, "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status" does it show Stopped?
[21:12] <JorgeJorgesson> ZykoticK9: yes, stopped.  Does not start
[21:12] <wolfgang> and disbled anonymoud login but i can still login anonymusly
[21:12] <DasEi> klenz :(terminal) sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:12] <Yournam> DasEi: I know what needs to be done, I'm just trying to get the syntax to "allow access from this IP only to port 80"
[21:12] <ZykoticK9> JorgeJorgesson, it won't start?  "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" what output do you get?
[21:12] <Yournam> DasEi: On iptables i mean
[21:13] <b3rz3rk3r> when i update i get the message that certain sources are being ignored because of a lack of GPG keys.. where can i get these from?
[21:13] <JorgeJorgesson> ZykoticK9: Sure it starts, just not on bootup
[21:13] <gonzojive> Hi, I want to add a line in grub to boot windows.  However, I don't know how to figure out what drive to use.  The examples I look at use hd1 or hd0 in the grub config, but my drive is /dev/sdb1 in linux.  what is it in grub?
[21:13] <klenz> couldnt find pastebinit
[21:13] <kamokow> Ok, so... Im trying to start an executable via terminal... now, at times before I could get ./[executable-name] (without []'s) to work (while in  the directory of the executable). But now it just says no such file or directory... however, it should work, because its installed and such...
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> JorgeJorgesson, ok - just checking.
[21:13] <gonzojive> I just cannot figure out how to map from a hard drive like /dev/sdb1 to a grub name for the drive
[21:13] <JorgeJorgesson> ZykoticK9: no problem, appreciated
[21:13] <DasEi> Yournam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[21:13] <klenz> DasEi couldnt find package pastebinit
[21:14] <edbian> kamokow: you are in the folder containing the executable?  "./<scriptname>" doesn't work?
[21:14] <DasEi> !paste | klenz
[21:14] <kamokow> yes
[21:14] <pronoy> kamokow: ok in know this is really basic..are you sure that executable exists in the dir ? or maybe permissions are changed
[21:14] <xiong> vigo, did *not* see but will join bugs chan, ty
[21:14] <kamokow> it should exist -.-
[21:14] <Yournam> DasEi: It's not in there on how to selective allow
[21:14] <klenz> DasEi ok i know about paste bin what file should i pasttebin
[21:14] <JorgeJorgesson> ZykoticK9: unfortunately, XP works.  I may have to resort to that.
[21:14] <vigo> Yournam: And remember man man is your friend.
[21:14] <suke_> i need help :(
[21:14] <pronoy> kamokow: check
[21:14] <b3rz3rk3r> when i update i get the message that certain sources are being ignored because of a lack of GPG keys.. where can i get these from? anyone?
[21:14] <ZykoticK9> JorgeJorgesson, that's very sad...
[21:15] <DasEi> klenz : just type mount in trml, and copy the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:15] <machinebacon> suke_ let's hear it
[21:15] <suke_> im really new to ubuntu, and infact im not very skilled at computers
[21:15] <mdg> suke_: jump right in
[21:15] <hatter243> b3rz3rk3r, you get them from the source. Which ones are missing keys?
[21:15] <pronoy> b3rz3rk3r: you'll need to google that with the repo name
[21:15] <suke_> i cant install anything
[21:15] <gpled> need help converting and mp4 to mp3.
[21:15] <JorgeJorgesson> ZykoticK9: well, whatever works.....I have to change all computers back to that.  All must be the same for ease of mangement.
[21:15] <suke_> i keep getting the same message
[21:15] <suke_> No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file.
[21:15] <mdg> suke_: what you want to install?
[21:15] <gpled> tried ffmpeg, but i get errors about unsupported format
[21:15] <pronoy> suke_: what type of file are you trying to use ?
[21:15] <gonzojive> this channel is way too crowded to get any help
[21:16] <b3rz3rk3r> hatter243, http://ppa.launchpad.net/kow/ppa/ubuntu and the medibuntu one too
[21:16] <pronoy> gonzojive: what's the problem bud ?
[21:16] <suke_> a bionicle game >.> ...
[21:16] <machinebacon> suke_ show us what you enter, or tell us where you want to install it :)
[21:16] <suke_> but im having the same message with other things
[21:16] <Mike_lifeguard> Apparently I have an encrypted .wmv -- how can I decrypt it?
[21:16] <pronoy> suke_: works on windows? works on wine ?
[21:16] <hatter243> b3rz3rk3r, try looking on those sites for things that say "This is how to import our GPG key..." They'll have their string in there
[21:16] <mdg> suke_: what a bionicle game?
[21:16] <biglinux>  me
[21:16] <Pici> !ppagpg | b3rz3rk3r
[21:16] <b3rz3rk3r> hatter243, alrighty, ty, il have a closer look
[21:17] <biglinux> house my
[21:17] <suke_> the reason im on ubuntu is because for some reason whe ever i sellect windows on my os screen it takes ages then suddenly restarts
[21:17] <klenz> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m366be0d
[21:17] <tofupaul> how can i get the desktop on the notebook screen and the extended on the connected monitor?
[21:17] <hatter243> Pici, good call, I didn't know about that one
[21:17] <b3rz3rk3r> ty Pici
[21:17] <machinebacon> suke_ so the game is a windows game?
[21:17] <ZykoticK9> kamokow, do you happen to be running 64bit?
[21:17] <pronoy> suke_: no idea about windows..what's the problem in linux ?
[21:17] <b3rz3rk3r> Pici, hatter243 thanks for you help if i dont come back ;)
[21:18] <suke_> no i chose the linux version
[21:18] <kamokow> no im running 32 bit
[21:18] <pronoy> suke_: check the wine db and see if it works on linux
[21:18] <suke_> whats wine db?
[21:18] <mdg> suke_: what's the name of the game again?
[21:18] <KrispyKreme> suke_, it's an emulation to run Windows stuff
[21:18] <petx> join #samba
[21:18] <suke_> the file is called bionicle
[21:18] <machinebacon> mdg i remember there was some kind of bionicle game in the repos.... :)
[21:19] <vigo> !Wine
[21:19] <ZykoticK9> suke_, http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php
[21:19] <pronoy> suke_: its the list of windows applications which work on linux using wine
[21:19] <agey> where I can join about C++ room?
[21:20] <pronoy> machinebacon: nope..just checked no bionicle game there
[21:20] <LeVuS> Yo
[21:20] <suke_> were can i get wine?
[21:20] <machinebacon> pronoy wine db maybe? i remember even not knowing what bionicles are :D
[21:20] <pronoy> suke_: sudo apt-get install wine
[21:20] <pronoy> agey: you'll have to search for it..try #cpp
[21:21] <pronoy> agey: use the search lists in the irc client option
[21:21] <suke_> were can i downlod wine?
[21:21] <antoni> hi, the fresh ubuntu studio 9.04 was seemingly forcefully turned off during synaptic's run. i was asked to do 'dpkg --configure -a', and it worked in recovery mode,
[21:21] <antoni> it found some loop (as i understand) error and fixed it (it said). i did this repeatedly to make sure, and once it seemed it worked, and again it found the same error (and fixed it). anyway, when rebooted to normal mode 'apt-get autoclean' worked and synaptic is accessible. however, it doesn't help. synaptic stucks and now asks for 'dpkg --configure -a' again. thx in advance.
[21:21] <KrispyKreme> suke_, type this in terminal. sudo apt-get install wine
[21:21] <pronoy> suke_: i just told you go to terminal and type sudo apt-get install wine
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> KrispyKreme, i love it when people say wine is an emulator - wine stands for "Wine Is NOT an Emulator", they call it a compatibility layer, but I agree - it's kinda an emulator.
[21:21] <mohammed510> hi
[21:21] <suke_> sudo apt-get install wine
[21:21] <loquitus> How do I get firefox 3.5 onto my machine via synaptic?
[21:22] <pronoy> ZykoticK9, correct !  i was gonna point that out ....lol
[21:22] <machinebacon> suke_ you can also install it easily in Add/Remove Programs, just search for All Aplications and "Wine"
[21:22] <KrispyKreme> ZykoticK9, sorry, I'm kind of ignorant. lol
[21:22] <mohammed510> I want to ask a question please about permissions in ubuntu
[21:22] <pronoy> suke_: the terminal not here !!!!!!!!1
[21:22] <Pici> !ff35 | loquitus
[21:22] <pronoy> mohammed510: ask
[21:22] <suke_> how do i access the terminal?
[21:22] <mohammed510> any body can help !!
[21:22] <pronoy> suke_: application > accessories > terminal
[21:22] <mohammed510> pronoy: Why  I can't change permissions of files stored in my hard disks
[21:22] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, simply ask your question and if someone knows they'll answer :)
[21:22] <pronoy> !ask | mohammed510
[21:23] <KrispyKreme> I finally know what gksu gedit does.
[21:23] <pronoy> mohammed510: did you try sudo chmod +permission <filename> ?
[21:23] <Mike_lifeguard> Is it possible to decrypt a .wmv file?
[21:23] <mohammed510> pronoy:yes
[21:23] <fastputty> mohammed510; chmod 777 *
[21:23] <mohammed510> pronoy: also the ownership and the groups of the files don't change
[21:23] <mohammed510> yes I tried these
[21:23] <fastputty> mohammed510: chown mygroup *
[21:24] <fastputty> mohammed510: chgrp mygroup *
[21:24] <mohammed510> I also tried  chown root filename
[21:24] <pronoy> mohammed510: how bout chown
[21:24] <suke_> Reading package lists... DonenBuilding dependency tree       nReading state information... DonenE: Couldn't find package wine
[21:24] <tonii> mohammed510: did you use sudo?
[21:24] <LeVuS> witam
[21:24] <machinebacon> suke_ do following: sudo apt-get update
[21:24] <pronoy> suke_: go to system > administartion > software sources
[21:24] <mohammed510> when I do the chown command and the change group command I have an error messages saying that I don
[21:24] <machinebacon> hehe pronoy is right :D
[21:24] <LeVuS> hello
[21:25] <mohammed510> saying that I don't have the permissions
[21:25] <LeVuS> cya
[21:25] <pronoy> suke_: check mark 3rd party software lists...and reload
[21:25] <LeVuS> :)
[21:25] <MK13> is there a way to transfer drivers from one install of ubuntu to another?
[21:25] <machinebacon> okay late (early) already, everybody good night
[21:25] <mohammed510> I uses the root user
[21:25] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, put "sudo" before your chown/chmod command
[21:25] <aboyz>  hi. I can't boot up my system because i edit something wrong in my /etc/fstab. how do i boot it up so I can edit the fstab anyone know how to do it? do i boot it up from single mode?? thanks..
[21:25] <Pici> !enter | mohammed510
[21:25] <MK13> without an internet connection available?
[21:25] <KrispyKreme> suke_, use sudo
[21:25] <suke_> what is sudo
[21:25] <mohammed510> ubottu: ok
[21:25] <tonii> aboyz: chose failsafe mode, then boot to prompt
[21:25] <pronoy> KrispyKreme: don't think he's enabled the repos yet
[21:25] <suke_> i dont know any of this termonligy
[21:26] <vigo> suke_: Wine is in the Repos, Synaptic, or should be, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine , to access terminal ,,one moment
[21:26] <pronoy> suke_: it means getting root power or adminstrator
[21:26] <suke_> im used to windows, ubuntu is just too confusing for me :(
[21:26] <mohammed510> I used sudo and no thing useful happened
[21:26] <pronoy> suke_: just do as i told you to..
[21:26] <pronoy> suke_: pm me..i'll guide you
[21:26] <machinebacon> suke_ it is not confusing, just remember these commands pronoy tells you, they will be your daily bread
[21:26] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: I uses the sudo command
[21:27] <vigo> suke_: It is a learning curve, but it is learning, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[21:27] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, you need the rest of the chown/chmod command did you put something like "sudo chmod ugo+rw file"?
[21:27] <suke_> how do i pm?
[21:27] <KrispyKreme> suke_, the word "sudo" is equivalent to the word "psuedo"
[21:27] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: yes I did
[21:27] <guntbert> mohammed510: you use sudo together with the command you want to execute (for instance: sudo cat /etc/shadow)
[21:27] <vigo> suke_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto just book mark all these links and go back to them.
[21:28] <KrispyKreme> psuedo means fake/ungenuine
[21:28] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, what file are you trying to change?  is it a device?
[21:28] <DasEi> klenz : can't find the share in the output of mount, but I think you can see the servers name in nautilus, so follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[21:28] <pronoy> suke_: i pmed you...check the tab...
[21:28] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: any file and every file
[21:28] <PlasmaSheep> I'm having big problems with QT on gnome, ubuntu 9.04 (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3677/screenshotconfiguration.png)
[21:28] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: I can change permissions of files  in my home directory and the system direcotries
[21:28] <robin> hello
[21:28] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, are you running off the LiveCD or on some other read-only file system?
[21:28] <robin> anyone around
[21:29] <MK13> is there a way to take drivers from one install of ubuntu to another without needing internet access?
[21:29] <PlasmaSheep> robin: no
[21:29] <mickster04> jabagawee i've been busy back now tho
[21:29] <PlasmaSheep> !ask robin
[21:29] <PlasmaSheep> !ask
[21:29] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: but I can't change them for files stored in my hard disks
[21:29] <tonii> mohammed510: why would you want to change permissions for _all_ files?
[21:29] <robin> okie
[21:29] <agey> join mingw
[21:29] <mohammed510> tonni: I don't want to change permissions of all files
[21:29] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, I'm affraid I need more detail of what you are trying to do.
[21:29] <vigo> !pipe | PlasmaSheep
[21:29] <mohammed510> tonni: I mean that I want to change the permissions of any files
[21:30] <PlasmaSheep> vigo: ?
[21:30] <robin> e lets say that if i boot my ubunt in usb drive how to disable my hard disk from my laptop anyone
[21:30] <PlasmaSheep> !sense | vigo
[21:30] <PlasmaSheep> :P
[21:30] <tonii> mohammed510: isn't that the same thing? ^_
[21:30] <tonii> ^_^
[21:30] <vigo> Just a little fun.
[21:30] <PlasmaSheep> heheh
[21:30] <machinebacon> robin quite sure in your BIOS
[21:30] <PlasmaSheep> :)
[21:30] <MK13> robin, do you mean unmount it?
[21:31] <robin> cannot lei mine is sony vaio cannot disable
[21:31] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: I am studying linux and I studied how to change permissions , I change permissions in my home directory but I can't do this for files in my hard disks after mounting them
[21:31] <pronoy> robin: unmount like safely remove ?
[21:31] <DasEi> klenz : paste the out of : findsmb
[21:31] <mohammed510> tonni:  I am studying the permissions under ubuntu , that is the matter
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, is you HD formatted for Windows?  If so, permissions are different between Windows/Linux.
[21:31] <tonii> mohammed510: is the harddrives in NTFS ?
[21:31] <mohammed510> no
[21:31] <machinebacon> robin change the boot order there
[21:32] <petx> hi all... I try to share folder with samba.. but it returned error 255... then I edit the smb.conf by adding the 'net user ...' line as requested... but it's still error when the other computer open my shared folder... any clues...??
[21:32] <robin> actually wat i want is i dont wann see my hard disk at all in ubunt
[21:32] <zerozerozero> Pici: hey when i run screen i get 5! before server load what does it represent?
[21:32] <MK13> robin, then unmount it
[21:32] <tonii> mohammed510: what file system is the harddrives using?
[21:32] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: they are fat32
[21:32] <machinebacon> robin thats unmounting then
[21:32] <robin> ic
[21:32] <tonii> heh..
[21:33] <tonii> oh well.
[21:33] <Rob235> where can i find config files for programs that have the icon path so i can change the default icon
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, then the Linux permission do NOT work!!!  They are for Linux only.
[21:33] <mohammed510> tonii: they are fat32
[21:33] <machinebacon> robin the command is umount /dev/sd...
[21:33] <tonii> mohammed510: I saw. and ZykoticK9 is correct ;)
[21:33] <machinebacon> robin where sd... is the device
[21:33] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: Really ??!!
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, you'd need EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 for linux permissions.
[21:33] <mohammed510> Ahaaaaaaaaaa
[21:34] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: thanks very much
[21:34] <domenique> hello
[21:34] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, np
[21:34] <MK13> robin, ubuntu shouldn't automatically mount hard disks on boot up anyway
[21:34] <machinebacon> robin open the terminal and enter  umount /dev/ and directly hit the TAB button twice
[21:34] <LeVuS> elo
[21:34] <antoni> anybody? (waits patiently) :)
[21:34] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: What is the real difference between EXT3 and EXT4
[21:35] <PlasmaSheep> I'm having big problems with QT on gnome, ubuntu 9.04 (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3677/screenshotconfiguration.png)
[21:35] <robin> but if that case i still can see my hard disk lei
[21:35] <vigo> robin: Here is a light read: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[21:35] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, ? i'm affraid I haven't looked into EXT4 at all yet.  Sorry.
[21:35] <masmos> hello, good evening! i have a short question. i installed ubuntu 8.04 on the old computer of my father. but i'm not satified with the resolution of 800x600 ? how can i change it?
[21:35] <guntbert> antoni: for what are you waiting?
[21:35] <domenique> I'm trying to configure mod_proxy for apache2 but I keep gettings GET requests in my access log from external ip's anyone know how to solve this ?
[21:35] <MK13> !drivers
[21:35] <antoni> hi, the fresh ubuntu studio 9.04 was seemingly forcefully turned off during synaptic's run. i was asked to do 'dpkg --configure -a', and it worked in recovery mode, it found some loop (as i understand) error and fixed it (it said). i did this repeatedly to make sure, and once it seemed it worked, and again it found the same error (and fixed it). anyway, when rebooted to normal mode 'apt-get...
[21:35] <antoni> ...autoclean' worked and synaptic is accessible. however, it doesn't help. synaptic stucks and now asks for 'dpkg --configure -a' again. thx in advance.
[21:35] <f0rt> sup everyone
[21:36] <f0rt> do you guys know of a user named zopiac?
[21:36] <antoni> guntbert: :)
[21:36] <mohammed510> zykotick9: please, What does journaling means in EXT3
[21:36] <MK13> masmos, install the drivers for your graphics card
[21:36] <edo1493> how i can open port 22 ?
[21:36] <f0rt> him and i are working on ubuntu for the wii
[21:36] <ibeekman> I just dist upgraded from hardy to intrepid and I had had to configure my ethernet cards using the manual option provided by network manager, but now I can't change their settings, any one have any thoughts?
[21:36] <masmos> MK13 thats the problem! i don't know how to do.
[21:36] <guntbert> !ot | f0rt
[21:36] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, EXT3 is MUCH safer then EXT2 due to the Journalling - sorta an error correcting type thing.
[21:37] <stefano_> ciao
[21:37] <f0rt> but it is a secret so we cannot really give out any details. i was just saying to give you guys something to look forward to.
[21:37] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: It safes time??
[21:37] <rom1v> why when I "nautilus -q", it restarts nautilus with --no-desktop?
[21:37] <vigo> antoni: Tried the dh_ things? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man7/debhelper.7.html
[21:37] <masmos> MK13 i do not even know the name of the graphic card
[21:37] <domenique> I'm trying to configure mod_proxy for apache2 but I keep gettings GET requests in my access log from external ip's anyone know how to solve this ? anyone ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7541613#post7541613
[21:37] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, no sorry - it's safer in you're less likely to lose data
[21:37] <antoni> vigo: didn't. i'll read and check. thx.
[21:38] <PlasmaSheep> ok
[21:38] <mohammed510> ZykoticK9: thanks for your answers and thanks to ubuntu
[21:38] <ubuntuyo_> I love a Ubuntu
[21:38] <PlasmaSheep0> GTFO PlasmaSheep
[21:38] <vigo> antoni: also look at aptitude, vim and stuff.
[21:38] <PlasmaSheep> ok
[21:38] <masmos> how can i install my graphic card under ubuntu?
[21:38] <Fenix|work> !seen mdm
[21:39] <ulb> ubuntu rul sarang hae yo
[21:39] <guntbert> domenique: #httpd might be a better place for your question :-)
[21:39] <vigo> !graphic card
[21:39] <MK13> masmos, look in the system menu and there should be a device drivers listed, click that and ubuntu might already have a driver available
[21:39] <vigo> !sound card
[21:39] <domenique> guntbert: ok I'll try there :)
[21:39] <ubuntuyo_> ulb are you korean?
[21:39] <PlasmaSheep> QT problems on gnome jaunty! http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3677/screenshotconfiguration.png
[21:39] <mickster04> jabagawee http://kahrn.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/belkin-f5d7051-usb-wifi-and-linux/ see,ed to work, tho i only did the last but, i hadnt checked if it worked from scratch actually... but it works now :D
[21:39] <vigo> ratso,,I am going sailing, y'all have fun
[21:39] <ulb> no, but I have been there
[21:39] <ubuntuyo_> I see..
[21:39] <ubuntuyo_> when?
[21:40] <guntbert> !ot | ubuntuyo_
[21:40] <ulb> a few times...last was 2 years ago
[21:40] <ubuntuyo_> ok
[21:40] <ulb> is ubuntu very popular in korea?
[21:41] <RayTracer> how can I find out my currently used part of the ulimit limits?
[21:41] <ulb> sorry gunt
[21:41] <masmos> MK13, there is a menu  "Hardware-driver"; and than theres written there are no properitie drivers on your system
[21:41] <mickster04> uofm49426, its working now, an i realised i dont know if it wasnt before, it just gave no acknolwedgement that it had noticed i had stuck the device in...
[21:41] <ubuntuyo_> I think it's popular a bit more...
[21:41] <mickster04> mdg, see above:D
[21:42] <PlasmaSheep> QT problems on gnome jaunty! http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3677/screenshotconfiguration.png
[21:43] <pronoy> Pici: will it be safe to install a new version of wine on gutsy considering the fact that it wasn't in their official repo  ?
[21:43] <scott_ino2> Where should i report feature requests for gnome applets?
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> masmos, if you're still looking for your graphics card from a terminal you could try "lspci | grep VGA"
[21:44] <MK13> masmos, sorry had to go get my laptop w/ ubuntu (this computer is too slow to run it)
[21:44] <pronoy> will it be safe to install a new version of wine on gutsy considering the fact that it wasn't in their official repo  ?
[21:44] <ubuntuyo_> tts engines...
[21:45] <MK13> masmos, in the terminal of the computer do an lspci and copy what is sent back to pastebin then give me the url
[21:45] <Milos_SD> How can I get automake 1.11 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[21:45] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: If a use a datashow and I want it to work proberly I have to type a command which I can't remember
[21:45] <dethray> Is there an idle chat channel fer #ubuntu
[21:45] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: If I use a datashow and I want it to work proberly I have to type a command which I can't remember
[21:45] <FrEaKmAn_> any tutorials how to upgrade php to latest 5.3 version?
[21:45] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, "datashow"?  I don't know what that is.
[21:45] <dans__> is there a button/command to make networkmanager connect to the dsl-connection i added in nm-connection-editor? - it looks like the entries are completely ignored (so i can't use pppoe)
[21:46] <PlasmaSheep> FrEaKmAn_: sudo apt-get update
[21:46] <stroyan> RayTracer: Most ulimit values are enforced per process.  Each process would need to look at those.  The mechanisms to inquire resource usage vary for the different limits.  Do you have one resource in mind?
[21:46] <PlasmaSheep> FrEaKmAn_: sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:46] <PlasmaSheep> simple
[21:46] <pronoy> will it be safe to install a new version of wine on gutsy considering the fact that it wasn't in their official repo  ?
[21:46] <guntbert> dans__: if you left-click on the nm-applet there should be an item
[21:46] <PlasmaSheep> QT 4.4.3 problems on gnome jaunty! http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3677/screenshotconfiguration.png
[21:46] <masmos> MK13, i'm not sure if i understood well
[21:46] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: It is some device which is connected to the laptob to show the screen of the laptob in the class
[21:46] <masmos> MK13 like this http://pastebin.com/d748c927e
[21:46] <masmos> ?
[21:47] <MK13> pronoy, as long as it is compiled for your version of ubuntu, or if you are compiling it yourself
[21:47] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: I don't know it's exact name in english
[21:47] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, i have no idea
[21:47] <Naddix> anyone have any exp. on ubuntu 9.04 and intel graphics
[21:47] <Naddix> just wondering if all them issues are still there
[21:47] <pronoy> MK13: i guess i am looking for an individual repo that works on intrepid and wanna know if it would be safe to add it to gutsy's list
[21:47] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: It is a device which focus the light comming out of it to the wall
[21:47] <edbian> Naddix: What's your question?
[21:48] <dans__> guntbert, left-click brings up a list of wired and wireless networks but nothing about dsl-connection
[21:48] <ulb> ZykoticK9: he might mean a projector
[21:48] <dethray> is google desktop worth a download?
[21:48] <guntbert> mohammed510: could it be xrandr? (just guessing)
[21:48] <Naddix> edbian , when i installed 9.04 i had nothing but problems with compiz and intel
[21:48] <FrEaKmAn_> PlasmaSheep: I get nothing new -> 0 0 0...
[21:48] <spsneo> how to install firefox 3.5 in ubuntu 9.04? has it been included in updates?
[21:48] <Naddix> i had to go back to 8.10
[21:48] <lel> hello
[21:48] <edbian> Naddix: Have you seen the compiz check script??
[21:48] <mohammed510> guntbert: yes you are right
[21:48] <Naddix> no i didnt
[21:48] <PlasmaSheep> FrEaKmAn_: did you install it via apt?
[21:48] <PlasmaSheep> QT 4.4.3 problems on gnome jaunty! http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3677/screenshotconfiguration.png
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> mohammed510, I'd imagine you do mean projector as ubl suggested, I think they are treated the same as external monitors - i have no experience with them, sorry.
[21:49] <FrEaKmAn_> PlasmaSheep: I just selected option to install it automatically
[21:49] <MK13> pronoy, it will not work w/ different versions (headers would have been wrong for instance) or atleast it would not be safe
[21:49] <masmos> Naddix, i had the same problems on my intel notebook ...
[21:49] <edbian> Naddix: http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[21:49] <PlasmaSheep> FrEaKmAn_: Are you sure you're not already updated?
[21:49] <pronoy> MK13: ok thanks
[21:49] <Naddix> thanks for the link edbian
[21:49] <mohammed510> Zykotick9: guntbert give me the command I want , it is xrander
[21:49] <masmos> MK13, did you got the link
[21:50] <edbian> Naddix: NP.  The compiz check script is great :) :) :)
[21:50] <masmos> did xou get
[21:50] <lel> hebrew won't display in my xchat@ubuntu 9.04 , anyone knows this problem?
[21:50]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[21:50] <KrispyKreme> I have a canon pixma 470 printer, but it doesn't have that driver available. What can I do?
[21:50] <mickster04> !ff35 | spsneo
[21:50] <FrEaKmAn_> PlasmaSheep: pretty sure. Actually 5.2.6 version is installed by default
[21:50] <MK13> masmos, do the same thing only this time run "dmesg"
[21:50] <domenique> guntbert: there not really helpfull there eh.... what a bunch of narrowminded f*cks
[21:50] <pronoy> KrispyKreme: doesn't it work without it ?
[21:50] <guntbert> dans__: sorry, then - that could mean that your dsl-connection isn#t properly configured or that the hardware isn't present/recognized
[21:51] <Naddix> edbain is this able to test in a live session
[21:51] <PlasmaSheep> FrEaKmAn_: 5.2.6 is latest in repos
[21:51] <edbian> Naddix: Yes
[21:51] <Naddix> Great
[21:51] <lel> Hi all, hebrew won't display in my xchat@ubuntu 9.04 , anyone knows this problem?
[21:51] <FrEaKmAn_> PlasmaSheep: I know. But can I upgrade it to 5.3?
[21:51] <MK13> masmos, from your lspci print out it looks like "ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RL/VR AGP" is your graphics card
[21:51] <edbian> Naddix: But changes you make are lost when you shutdown a live session
[21:51] <Naddix> thank you very much edbain, got ya
[21:51] <PlasmaSheep> FrEaKmAn_: If you want to build it, sure
[21:52] <PlasmaSheep> If you know how
[21:52] <edbian> Naddix: Good luck!
[21:52] <guntbert> !ohmy | domenique, but in the end they are right, you are obviously sustaining an open proxy :-(
[21:52] <sshc> how do I find which partition I'm using and which is the cdrom in /dev/?
[21:52] <Naddix> edbain, i just wanted to make sure things were good before hand because i like nice fresh installs.
[21:52] <FrEaKmAn_> PlasmaSheep: but how long does it take to update version is repos?
[21:52] <gjperez> Firefox 3.5 is ouT!!! Shiretoko Shock!
[21:52] <edbian> sshc: fdisk -l
[21:52] <KrispyKreme> pronoy, no, it prints a blank page..
[21:52] <edbian>  :) :)
[21:52] <MK13> masmos, and you don't have options higher than 800x600 in the screen resolution selection right? (i assumed this by accident)
[21:52] <tofupaul> i played with extended desktop settings and now jaunty does not offer me widescreen anymore. max is now 1024 - 768.
[21:52] <PlasmaSheep> FrEaKmAn_: It varies, why do you need it so badly?
[21:52] <masmos> MK13, http://pastebin.com/d7a576fe4
[21:52] <domenique> guntbert: it could be that there right, but there not helping either..... is that the ubuntu way ?
[21:53] <tofupaul> how can i change to wifdescreen again?
[21:53] <edbian> sshc: look in those folders and see what's in them!  If you have a CD in the drive it is pretty obvious which folder is the correct one.
[21:53] <FrEaKmAn_> PlasmaSheep: because I want to test it :D
[21:53] <PlasmaSheep> QT 4.4.3 problems on gnome jaunty! http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3677/screenshotconfiguration.png
[21:53] <pronoy> KrispyKreme it gives a command to the printer right ? i mean you get the dialog box showing you that the command is being processed right ?
[21:53] <PlasmaSheep> FrEaKmAn_: You need to build it.
[21:53] <ubuntuyo_> tofupaul 8.04 is better.
[21:53] <LinuX2half> how do I remove a theme that I install?
[21:53] <PlasmaSheep> FrEaKmAn_: Unless you can find a deb (not likely)
[21:53] <masmos> MK13 yes i don't have options higher than 800x600; what can i do?
[21:54] <masmos> on windows my father had much bigger something like 1200x800 ... or so
[21:54] <masmos> MK13
[21:54] <ibeekman> I just upgraded from hardy to intrepid and I am having serious network issues
[21:54] <KrispyKreme> pronoy, yeah, it asks for a "driver" i would like to make default for my printer and when it comes to print ( there is a popup dialog box confirming) the page is blank
[21:54] <threatrix> Does anyone know the bianary name of the printer configuration program for some reason I dont have it under administration
[21:54] <pronoy> MK13: tell him to edit his xorg.conf
[21:54] <dans__> guntbert, all i have to do is enter username/password... how could i configure that wrong? the hardware should be okay, it's pppoe over wlan and i can connect to the wlan
[21:54] <ubuntuyo_> ibeekman 8.04 is better.
[21:55] <KrispyKreme> LinuX2half, shouldn't there be a uninstall.sh in the folder?
[21:55] <guntbert> domenique: I hope not, but they are apache admins, nothing to do with ubuntu - but *please* shut down your apache server, and get someone to check the config for you
[21:55] <ibeekman> thanks but I am not looking for opinions
[21:55] <PlasmaSheep> heh
[21:55] <domenique> guntbert: it already shut down
[21:55] <guntbert> dans__: sorry, no idea :-(
[21:55] <pronoy> KrispyKreme: ohk then you do require the driver...check their site they should have linux version
[21:55] <domenique> guntbert: but no-one seems to be able to help me
[21:55] <dans__> guntbert, okay, thanks anyways
[21:55] <machinebacon> MK13 xorg.conf probably needs the "fake" screen settings
[21:55] <RayTracer> stroyan, no I don't know which resource, I'm experiencing problems without a hint on the cause - I can't start new screen windows or *terms and can't even re-login or su to my user as root
[21:55] <pronoy> KrispyKreme: of just google it
[21:55] <LinuX2half> where? Uninstall.sh?
[21:56] <fsw> I'm sure many people have asked this, but is Firefox 3.5 available for the ubuntu family through Synaptic?
[21:56] <PlasmaSheep> fsw: not yet
[21:56] <machinebacon> !firefox3.5 | ;)
[21:56] <pronoy> fsw nope
[21:56] <KrispyKreme> pronoy, I heard it was unstable. Do you happen to use turboprint?
[21:56] <fsw> thanks for the quick answer!
[21:56] <PlasmaSheep> np
[21:56] <ibeekman> can anyone PM me about my network manager/connectivity issues?
[21:56] <kbrosnan> !ff35 | fsw
[21:56] <pronoy> KrispyKreme no bro     i stick with HP
[21:56] <guntbert> domenique: neither am I, sorry (I understand that the guys in http *were* being unfriendly and unhelpful)
[21:56] <i3u4k> Hi :)
[21:57] <pronoy> !hi | i3u4k
[21:57] <KrispyKreme> pronoy, dual boot?
[21:57] <KrispyKreme> wait. never mind
[21:57] <pronoy> KrispyKreme: mine ? yup :)
[21:57] <tofupaul> i played with extended desktop settings and now jaunty does not offer me widescreen anymore. max is now 1024 - 768. how can i change it to widewscreen again?
[21:57] <madman_> holA
[21:57] <masmos> MK13 whats up???
[21:58] <threatrix> So for some reason printer configuration is now in my administration tab how do I get to it
[21:58] <pronoy> !espanol | madman_
[21:58] <aemadrid> heya
[21:58] <Bobly> Q: I have set a network shared folder to be mounted in fstab, but when not connected to the network (booting), it hangs for a while until it time outs. Is there a way to stop it doing that or should I just not use an alternative?
[21:58] <KrispyKreme> madman_, yo hablo un pequito espanol
[21:58] <LinuX2half> I just delete the folder in the theme location
[21:59] <Bobly> just use an alternative*
[21:59] <aemadrid> anybody knows where I can find a howto install 9.04 with manual partition for lvm + encrypted?
[21:59] <i3u4k> hi :)
[21:59] <stroyan> RayTracer: My first guess based on what fails is that you are having trouble allocating pty's.
[21:59] <PlasmaSheep> !espanol | KrispyKreme, madman_
[21:59] <pronoy> LinuX2half: you go to appearance and themes and just delete it from there
[21:59] <aemadrid> I want to have partitions for / and /home but encrypted
[21:59] <M1K3> masmos, it's MK13... did you get my last few messages?
[21:59] <LinuX2half> but the delete option isn't enabled.
[22:00] <PlasmaSheep> QT 4.4.3 problems on gnome jaunty! http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3677/screenshotconfiguration.png
[22:00] <edbian> Bobly: The point of fstab is to mount things that are always going to be connected automatically.  If you want to first check for a working network connection than write a script that checks for one and calls the mount command appropriately and then have it run at boot time.
[22:00] <masmos> MK13 what do i have to do? which driver?
[22:00] <i3u4k> Turk var mi ?
[22:00] <aytekin> hello
[22:00] <aytekin> var
[22:00] <pronoy> LinuX2half: so don't delete it use another theme doesn't matter anyways...
[22:00] <aytekin> hello is there any irc channels for java programmers
[22:00] <hombre> Bobly: mount after booting
[22:00] <i3u4k> :)
[22:00] <peteforsyth_> got a pretty basic question -- if I want to install Intrepid on a disk that already has a (broken) Jaunty install, is there a way to do it and keep user data (mp3s, photos..) intact?
[22:00] <Bobly> Thankd edbian I'll look into that, was looking into network shares and people tend to suggest using fstab but I can't see how that's any use in wireless cases :)
[22:00] <stroyan> RayTracer: If you can su to root, but not to your own user, then the .bashrc and related shell startup files are _very_ suspect.
[22:00] <pronoy> aytekin #java
[22:00] <Bobly> Thanks hombre I'll look into that
[22:01] <i3u4k> ben yeni kurdum ubuntuyu
[22:01] <PlasmaSheep> aytekin: search before asking
[22:01] <aytekin> what is their jservers name
[22:01] <i3u4k> yardımcı olabilicek var mı ?
[22:01] <KrispyKreme> sometimes I type something in the terminal and it bashes me. what does that mean?
[22:01] <mickster04> peteforsyth_, use the live disk to boot up then copy the data onto aan external drive, then install?
[22:01] <aytekin> buyrun
[22:01] <edbian> Bobly: It is useful if you are always going to be connected to your network :)
[22:01] <pronoy> aytekin: if you mean server then its freenode i guess
[22:01] <PlasmaSheep> KrispyKreme: lolwut?
[22:01] <i3u4k> Jdownloader java sorunu yaşıyorum
[22:01] <edbian> Bobly: I can help you more if you'd like.
[22:01] <aytekin> i ve searched for
[22:01] <Bobly> edbian: Heh I am, but not until it boots and network manager connects :P
[22:01] <n2diy> can you use sbackup and srestore between an 8.04 box and a 9.04 box?
[22:01] <i3u4k> jdownloader
[22:02] <peteforsyth_> mickster04: That could prolly work, thanks..I'd rather not have to copy to another disk, but if necessary that's a good idea.
[22:02] <Bobly> edbian: nah don't worry about it I'll look into it :)
[22:02] <pronoy> aytekin: /join #java on irc.freenode.net
[22:02] <KrispyKreme> like bin/bash "dlfkj" like that
[22:02] <threatrix> So I don't see my printer tab under administration. how would I go about adding a printer?
[22:02] <aytekin> bu i vae nothing result
[22:02] <LinuX2half> I delete the folder but the theme still there in my appearance box.
[22:02] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: join the goddam #java channel
[22:02] <sean> sean
[22:02] <RayTracer> stroyan, thanks for the hint, I started editing one and didn't finish it. solved it.
[22:02] <PlasmaSheep>  /join #java
[22:02] <aytekin> pronoy, thx
[22:02] <PlasmaSheep> <.<
[22:02] <sean> hello
[22:02] <M1K3> masmos, is 800x600 the highest video setting you have available?
[22:02] <edbian> Bobly: ok :)  Good luck!
[22:02] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep: dude...
[22:02] <sean> want do date
[22:02] <sveinse> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 (32-bit) on a Dell laptop with Nvidia gfx card. I'm having problems with xterm sessions where parts of the text sometimes falls out. Pressing enter (or a screen refresh) updates the screen correctly. Any other with the same sympoms?
[22:02] <tofupaul> KrispyKreme, no offence but why dont u read the tutorials so the people can focus on for example my extended desktop question?
[22:02] <sean> email me a
[22:02] <Guest71597><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:03] <Guest71597> thats<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:03] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: How does he program java if he can't figure out the fundamentals of #java?
[22:03] <PlasmaSheep> or, the join comman
[22:03] <PlasmaSheep> d
[22:03] <tofupaul> which i cannot solve using google
[22:03] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep: seriously :D
[22:03] <i3u4k> aytekin abi ? javayı nasıl yapabilirim jdownloader ı açamıyorum
[22:03] <edbian> tofupaul: What's your question?
[22:03] <KrispyKreme> tofupaul, your question is most likely on bing
[22:03] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep: what language is that ?
[22:03] <dethray> hahaha
[22:03] <dethray> BING
[22:03] <i3u4k> aytekin: ?
[22:04] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: what language is what?
[22:04] <pronoy> i3u4k : he left for #java
[22:04] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep: i3u4k's speakin
[22:04] <aytekin> jdownloader ı open source kaynaklı olanı varmıydı ki
[22:04] <wolter> ./join #gtkmm
[22:04] <peteforsyth_> edbian: Didn't get a chance to thank you for your help before :) appreciate it.
[22:04] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: I wish I knew.
[22:04] <masmos> MK13, yes it is!
[22:04] <edbian> peteforsyth_: What did I help you with?  I remember you nick but not your problem.
[22:04] <ghjyu> hi guys
[22:05] <edbian> ghjyu: Hi, what's your question?
[22:05] <mickster04> !hi ghjyu,
[22:05] <edbian> peteforsyth_: Your welcome BTW :)
[22:05] <peteforsyth_> I have the problem with the ATI graphics card and Jaunty. Didn't solve it, but....
[22:05] <i3u4k> ben hiç birşey anlamıyorum ubuntudan kurdum bi kere silemiyorum... linux sürümü var wineyle açılıyor ama javada sorun var
[22:05] <pronoy> edbian: wow :D
[22:05] <mickster04> !hi | ghjyu,
[22:05] <ghjyu> hi
[22:05] <edbian> pronoy: what ??
[22:05] <peteforsyth_> helped me figure out at least the status of my system a little better.
[22:05] <ghjyu> thanks for being so welcome
[22:05] <aytekin> i3u4k, jdownloader ın opensource lusu varmıydı ki
[22:05] <pronoy> edbian: nevermind
[22:05] <edbian> pronoy: ok :)
[22:05] <pronoy> !ask ghjyu
[22:06] <pronoy> !ask | ghjyu
[22:06] <pronoy> god !
[22:06] <PlasmaSheep> dammit
[22:06] <PlasmaSheep> almost got it ;P
[22:06] <MrPockets> adeodatus,
[22:06] <ghjyu> i've been trying to figure out voice auth in linux. found this http://web.archive.org/web/20060217095644/http://cscience.org/~lucasvr/projects/voiceauth.php. any idea how to get it to work?
[22:06] <i3u4k> aytekin, ben hiç birşey anlamıyorum ubuntudan kurdum bi kere silemiyorum... linux sürümü var wineyle açılıyor ama javada sorun var
[22:06] <tel0s> can anyone reccommend a tiling window manager please? im interested in trying one.
[22:06] <aytekin> jdownloader ı ne hangi indirmeler için kulanıcan
[22:06] <i3u4k> rapidshare
[22:06] <aytekin> tamam
[22:06] <pronoy> tel0s: what's a tiling window manager ?
[22:06] <M1K3> masmos, then google for linux drivers for the video card i told you, I am surprised ubuntu does not have an entry in "System>Admin...>Hardware Drivers"
[22:07] <aytekin> bel ki ubuntuya
[22:07] <i3u4k> alternatif varsa onlarıda kullanabilirim
[22:07] <iio> hola
[22:07] <aytekin> jre kurman lazım
[22:07] <Royall> How would one update Firefox on Ubuntu?
[22:07] <lvlefisto> !klingon
[22:07] <PlasmaSheep> !ff3.5 | Royall
[22:07] <pronoy> Royall: lemme guess you're after ff3.5 ?
[22:07] <iio> I need update firefox on ubuntu 9.04
[22:07] <ThePulgarcito> tel0s: Depends on what you want. Right now, I'm using wmii, and it's pretty easy to pick up/modify
[22:07] <aytekin> bunuda terminalden apt-get install komutuyla yapıcaksın
[22:07] <PlasmaSheep> !ff3.5 | iio
[22:07] <PlasmaSheep> christ <.<
[22:07] <i3u4k> javada sorunum var 1.5 or hing diyor
[22:08] <edbian> pronoy: A tiling window manager places the windows on the screen in a more organized fashion instead of just all over like a floating manager.   :O
[22:08] <edbian> PlasmaSheep: russian ??
[22:08] <PlasmaSheep> edbian: no
[22:08] <i3u4k> peki :)
[22:08] <pronoy> edbian: doesn't compiz does all of that ? it's got a few plugins
[22:08] <i3u4k> Turkish :)
[22:08] <aytekin> web te bir google yaptırayım
[22:09] <PlasmaSheep> !turkish | i3u4k
[22:09] <tel0s> pronoy: compiz is bloatware ;)
[22:09] <PlasmaSheep> <.<
[22:09] <edbian> pronoy: There is a tile plugin in extra-plugins but it isn't very good compared to awesome.
[22:09] <nightdrever> is google chrome avaliable yet
[22:09] <pronoy> edbian cool name awesome :D
[22:09] <nightdrever> ?
[22:09] <tel0s> edbian: is openbox tiling? i've used it for years and never realised it had those features?
[22:09] <sveinse> If I open 20-30 windows in gnome, they go black (blank). If I close some of them, the contents appear again. Quite annoying. Anybody knows about this?
[22:09] <pronoy> nightdrever:" don't think so
[22:09] <adeodatus> not yet
[22:09] <PlasmaSheep> nightdrever: google is your friend
[22:09] <tel0s> nightdrever: pre-releases are available
[22:09] <edbian> tel0s: I thought so?  You'd know better than me if you've been using it for years.
[22:09] <aacosta_> im having some trouble with vsftpd
[22:09] <threatrix> So for some reason printer configuration is not in my administration tab how do I get to it?
[22:09] <nightdrever> its taken ages....wonder if it actually will
[22:10] <forceflow> how can I get firefox 3.5 on ubuntu jaunty?
[22:10] <PlasmaSheep> nightdrever: they will
[22:10] <nightdrever> becauese chromanium is crap
[22:10] <aacosta_> i cant seem to upload my files
[22:10] <PlasmaSheep> forceflow: build it
[22:10] <tel0s> edbian: as far as i know it's not.
[22:10] <pronoy> tel0s: dude compiz totally rocks....well to everyman his own
[22:10] <edbian> http://xwinman.org/
[22:10] <tel0s> !ff3.5
[22:10] <forceflow> PlasmaSheep: in a repository-kind of way :)
[22:10] <aemadrid> @nightdrever go to http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/eula_dev.html?dl=unstable_i386_deb
[22:10] <PlasmaSheep> forceflow: wait
[22:10] <aemadrid> @nightdrever I'm using it right now
[22:10] <pronoy> wow what's up with ff 3.5 ..that's like the gazzillionth question related to it.....
[22:11] <edbian> pronoy: Yeah I have no idea
[22:11] <Babbleback> i'm using ubuntu netbook remix and i'm not getting a full desktop... i was able to create an xchat launcher but that is the only thing i see on the desktop... something is wrong with the windows management... any help?
[22:11] <kbrosnan> !ff3.5 | LinuX2half:
[22:11] <ThePulgarcito> tel0s: Most of the differences between tiling WMs is in the language they use for configs. Wmii uses bash,s so it's pretty easy to understand and pick up, but Awesome is nice if you know lua, and openbox has the "Poor man's Tiling" somewhere.
[22:11] <forceflow> pronoy: because ubuntu users want to get it
[22:11] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: yeah, not much hype over 3.3
[22:11] <forceflow> I think it's a logical reaction
[22:11] <PlasmaSheep> forceflow: it's unique for firefox
[22:11] <Babbleback> ctrl+alt+backspace used to restart the x server but that doesn't work
[22:11] <pronoy> forceflow duh! thats the point ? why !?
[22:11] <tel0s> Babbleback: one moment i'll get you a link
[22:11] <ThePulgarcito> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=64100 Here's the Poor man's tiling WM for Openbox
[22:12] <pronoy> Babbleback: its something else in jaunty
[22:12] <i3u4k> aytekin : İngilizcem pek yok yaş 14 :) sorunu tamamen yazayım tıklayınca : this application requires a java runtime environment 1.5.0 diyor...
[22:12] <Babbleback> tel0s, ty..
[22:12] <forceflow> well, I guess I'm just jealous at my windows friend here checking it out before me :)
[22:12] <aytekin>     sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[22:12] <tel0s> Babbleback: I've just fixed it myself. lol :D its  a bug in desktop switcher but theres a fix.
[22:12] <PlasmaSheep> Babbleback: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ctrl+alt+backspace+ubuntu
[22:12] <pronoy> aytekin: or just sun-java6-jdk
[22:12] <aytekin> bu komutu terminale yaz gerisini bana kurulurken yaz
[22:12] <PlasmaSheep> tel0s: not a bug, feature
[22:12] <sveinse> pronoy: This is nothing like it were the day Jauty was going to be released! *everyone* asking "when is it going to be released"
[22:13] <PlasmaSheep> aytekin: language?
[22:13] <edbian> forceflow: spin your cube to an empty workspace and show him up
[22:13] <nightdrever> yeah i see the pre alpha realese
[22:13] <aytekin> Turkish
[22:13] <PlasmaSheep> !turkish | aytekin
[22:13] <aytekin> pronoy, thx
[22:13] <i3u4k> bitti
[22:13] <PlasmaSheep> god people <.<
[22:13] <pronoy> sveinse: well only if they knew what a shitload of bugs jaunty had...wouldn't have been so keen
[22:13] <nightdrever> but chromanium u cant install flash.......so u cant even watch music clips or play games
[22:13] <aytekin> eyvallah ubottu
[22:13] <PlasmaSheep> nightdrever: use FF
[22:13] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep: turks
[22:13] <PlasmaSheep> wait
[22:14] <nightdrever> yeah i am
[22:14] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: I agree
[22:14] <LinuX2half> Can you install SElinux in ubuntu?
[22:14] <i3u4k> kurdum :)
[22:14] <nightdrever> its just i like chrome better on xp
[22:14] <PlasmaSheep> nightdrever: you're doing all you can then
[22:14] <i3u4k> tekrar deniyorum
[22:14] <pronoy> nightdrever dude use opera...totally rocks
[22:14] <tel0s> Babbleback: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/desktop-switcher/+bug/349519
[22:14] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: opera is okay
[22:14] <aytekin> tamam şimdi ne yapıcaksan bi daha dene
[22:14] <nightdrever> better than firefox?
[22:14] <PlasmaSheep> standards support is nice
[22:14] <tel0s> Babbleback: read that, g2g mate sorry
[22:14] <PlasmaSheep> but I prefer firefox
[22:14] <PlasmaSheep> Babbleback: did you see that link I sent?
[22:14] <Babbleback> tel0s, what is g2g
[22:15] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep: totally
[22:15] <PlasmaSheep> Babbleback: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ctrl+alt+backspace+ubuntu
[22:15] <i3u4k> yok yine aynı sorun jdownloader ın sitesindeki javayı indirdim ama bin dosyası açanmıyorum :(
[22:15] <pronoy> Babbleback : got to go g2g
[22:15] <Babbleback> PlasmaSheep, i did but i'm more concerned with fixing the desktop, but ty
[22:15] <Addicts> Good to go
[22:15] <pronoy> Babbleback : don't confuse it for a package name :D lol
[22:15] <PlasmaSheep> Babbleback: fixing the desktop?
[22:15] <PlasmaSheep> wat?
[22:15] <PlasmaSheep> QT 4.4.3 problems on gnome jaunty! http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3677/screenshotconfiguration.png
[22:16] <chris_> geia sas paidia..
[22:16] <dethray> Yah, I ended up using it in xp...
[22:16] <Babbleback> i can't minimize or switch windows or anything...
[22:16] <chris_> mipws mporei kapoios na me vohthisei?
[22:17] <i3u4k> rapidshare downloader ? alternatif var mı ?
[22:17] <pronoy> Babbleback: do you have the vga up and running and are you using compiz ?
[22:17] <edbian> Babbleback: That is how UNR is supposed to fuctino
[22:17] <Babbleback> i have a little firefox window with that link you sent me
[22:17] <Babbleback> no
[22:17] <edbian> function* It is a "feature"  I also could not stand it.
[22:17] <aytekin> valla bi kanala sormak lazım
[22:17] <Babbleback> it used to function fine where i could switch windows by the tabs at the top... now there is no top
[22:17] <TheNewGuy> Thanks everyone that helped me get the real flash player working!!  my program is working now!!  It is for business and with out flash working, I would have to go back to ... (getting quizy thinking about it) ... windows....  ( I just spit up a little in my mouth... uggg .....   )  Thanks!!!
[22:17] <aytekin> sen ubuntu-tr de sordun mu
[22:17] <Babbleback> not using compiz or anything fancy... this is just a little netbook
[22:18] <edbian> TheNewGuy: awesome!
[22:18] <pronoy> aytekin: guys not to be rude or anything but we already have too much load on the english channel...maybe you could like draw a private conversation...much obliged
[22:18] <i3u4k> evet aslında daha önce calıştı ama tekrar kurdum bu sefer böyle oldu.. önce ingilizce olabilir
[22:18] <TheNewGuy> :-D you guys are the best!
[22:18] <Babbleback> tel0s, where in that link is the fix?
[22:18] <PlasmaSheep> Babbleback: prolly removed the panel
[22:19] <aytekin> sorry prono
[22:19] <LinuX2half> how do I encrypt my hard drive?
[22:19] <aytekin> this guy new one trying learning ubnutu
[22:20] <Randomtime> LinuX2half: http://www.truecrypt.org/ is cross platform, and awesome
[22:20] <pronoy> aytekin: its all cool..its just that we cant help unless its english..since nobody's able to understand anything you might as well take him to a private channel
[22:20] <Randomtime> LinuX2half: just go to downloads and get the ubuntu version
[22:21] <PlasmaSheep> aytekin: tell him to go to #ubuntu-tr for godssakes
[22:21] <pronoy> aytekin: tell him to join #aytekin ..you too join it
[22:21] <pisecx> firefox 3.5 ?
[22:21] <pisecx> still compiling ?
[22:21] <aytekin> is there any software to download rapidshare files like jdownloader
[22:21] <loca|host> what is the best mp3 player on gnome ?
[22:21] <pronoy> !ff3.5 pisecx
[22:21] <pisecx> )
[22:21] <pronoy> !ff3.5 | pisecx
[22:21] <pisecx> he doesn't know
[22:21] <PlasmaSheep> !ff3.5 | pisecx
[22:21] <PlasmaSheep> dammit
[22:21] <PlasmaSheep> :P
[22:21] <pisecx> thanks!
[22:21] <edbian> loca|host: Any music player can play mp3's if you have the correct gstreamer plugin
[22:21] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[22:22] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: just wait :P
[22:22] <antoni> hi everybody, i still need help. user vigo, who suggested something, is not here anymore
[22:22] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep; man there are so many queries its like a game now ! hahaha
[22:22] <PlasmaSheep> !ask | antoni
[22:22] <edbian> antoni: What are you trying to do?
[22:22] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: hahahaha!
[22:22] <antoni> edbian: didn't want to repeat
[22:22] <pronoy> edbian: guessing he asked what would be a really good music player
[22:23] <antoni> hi, the fresh ubuntu studio 9.04 was seemingly forcefully turned off during synaptic's run. i was asked to do 'dpkg --configure -a', and it worked in recovery mode, it found some loop (as i understand) error and fixed it (it said). i did this repeatedly to make sure, and once it seemed it worked, and again it found the same error (and fixed it). anyway, when rebooted to normal mode 'apt-get...
[22:23] <antoni> ...autoclean' worked and synaptic is accessible. however, it doesn't help. synaptic stucks and now asks for 'dpkg --configure -a' again. thx in advance.
[22:23] <ubuntuyo_> !ask | ubuntuyo
[22:23] <n2diy> why can't I manage my "guest" account with system-manage users?
[22:23] <aytekin> pronoy: is there any software to download rapidshare files like jdownloader
[22:23] <Addicts> Any cool changes with FF 3.5 ?
[22:23] <edbian> antoni: Well I wasn't here when you asked the first time.
[22:23] <pronoy> loca|host: try songbird, or banshee, or rhythmbox or exaile
[22:23] <PlasmaSheep> Addicts: read the changelog
[22:23] <PlasmaSheep> <.<
[22:23] <antoni> edbian: sorry then, i already repeated once
[22:23] <TheNewGuy> HI, I have umbutu and I saw a cool desk top feature that would let you spin your desk tops on a cube.  each side with a different application.  anyone know how I can get that?
[22:23] <edbian> antoni: Alright well then I can't help you.
[22:23] <Guest1604_948> fakeroot debian/rules clean /usr/bin/fakeroot: 166: debian/rules: not found dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 127
[22:23] <mickster04> thenewguy
[22:23] <edbian> TheNewGuy: Yay!!!
[22:23] <loca|host> edbian, yes, my problem is not for reading mp3, its just for getting your feedbacks on the best user-friendly apps
[22:24] <PlasmaSheep> Guest1604_948: context
[22:24] <edbian> TheNewGuy: See my Personal Message?
[22:24] <pronoy> aytekin: you could use jdownloader.. if it works on windows check whether it works on wine
[22:24] <mickster04> TheNewGuy,  go nto synaptics package manager
[22:24] <antoni> edbian: is it unsolvable?
[22:24] <NetLarIrvine> How do I do a format for a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[22:24] <LinuX2half> well I always hate downloading stuff and comes in a package
[22:24] <PlasmaSheep> NetLarIrvine: reinstall
[22:24] <TheNewGuy> ok
[22:24] <edbian> antoni: I don't even know what your question is?!!?
[22:24] <pronoy> TheNewGuy: its called compiz-fusion
[22:24] <Guest1604_948> i try to build a package
[22:24] <mickster04> TheNewGuy,  get compision fusion icon
[22:24] <rom1v> hi
[22:24] <rom1v> how to remove a gconf-editor entry?
[22:24] <mickster04> TheNewGuy,  lol :D
[22:24] <PlasmaSheep> make
[22:25] <antoni> but i DID paste it in a few seconds ago!
[22:25] <PlasmaSheep> ./configure
[22:25] <PlasmaSheep> make
[22:25] <PlasmaSheep> make install
[22:25] <NetLarIrvine> There are many partitions PlasmaSheep
[22:25] <PlasmaSheep> bam
[22:25] <NetLarIrvine> I want to also use ext4
[22:25] <ThePulgarcito> mkfs.ext4
[22:25] <PlasmaSheep> NetLarIrvine: you can prolly merge during reinstall
[22:25] <Guest1604_948> my line issue is /usr/bin/fakeroot: 166: debian/rules: Permission denied dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 126
[22:25] <TheNewGuy> thanks  will do
[22:25] <PlasmaSheep> there will be a partition editor
[22:25] <antoni> edbian: again to you: hi, the fresh ubuntu studio 9.04 was seemingly forcefully turned off during synaptic's run. i was asked to do 'dpkg --configure -a', and it worked in recovery mode, it found some loop (as i understand) error and fixed it (it said). i did this repeatedly to make sure, and once it seemed it worked, and again it found the same error (and fixed it). anyway, when rebooted to...
[22:25] <antoni> ...normal mode 'apt-get autoclean' worked and synaptic is accessible. however, it doesn't help. synaptic stucks and now asks for 'dpkg --configure -a' again. thx in advance.
[22:26] <NetLarIrvine> PlasmaSheep I just want to wipe drive clean first
[22:26] <PlasmaSheep> Guest1604_948: did you use make / ./configure
[22:26] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep: how bout the gparted ?
[22:26] <PlasmaSheep> NetLarIrvine: why not during install?
[22:26] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: well, that's two steps
[22:26] <Guest1604_948> i use dpkg-buildpackage -tc -rfakeroot
[22:26] <NetLarIrvine> I want to be able to use ext4 and during install it does not give you that option
[22:26] <PlasmaSheep> and deleting the partition in use is odd
[22:26] <PlasmaSheep> NetLarIrvine: yes it does
[22:27] <PlasmaSheep> update your disk
[22:27] <NetLarIrvine> PlasmaSheep not if you choose the option of using entire disk
[22:27] <edbian> antoni: Do it in normal (not recovery) mode.  That is my only guess.
[22:27] <pronoy> NetLarIrvine: google for converting ext3 to ext4
[22:27] <antoni> edbian: it stucks. i tried in recovery because it didn't work in normal mode.
[22:27] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: you don't (?)
[22:28] <NetLarIrvine> I know about that, I just want to do ext4 from beginning without having to convert
[22:28] <edbian> antoni: do you know what package is the problem?
[22:28] <Aperculum> where can I find out when the firefox 3.5 becomes available in standard repositories
[22:28] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep i didn't try it :) still on intrepid ext3 partitions  ... :D
[22:28] <pronoy> !ff3.5 | Aperculum
[22:28] <NetLarIrvine> So there is no way to wipe disk clean first??
[22:28] <Babbleback> tried the gconftools-2 thing and it didn't work
[22:28] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep: +1
[22:28] <PlasmaSheep> NetLarIrvine: try wiping the disk then makin a partition that is 1mb short
[22:28] <Babbleback> tel0s, lost the link after rebooting to see if it worked
[22:29] <Aperculum> thanks a lot, ubottu :)
[22:29] <PlasmaSheep> NetLarIrvine: then resize the partition into that 1mb
[22:29] <NetLarIrvine> Ok, PlasmaSheep how do I do that?
[22:29] <PlasmaSheep> pronoy: I was helping NetLarIrvine :P
[22:29] <PlasmaSheep> NetLarIrvine: the large partition in the install process
[22:29] <PlasmaSheep> then through gparted
[22:29] <pronoy> PlasmaSheep: yeah yeah :D showoff :)
[22:29] <PlasmaSheep> :P
[22:30] <NetLarIrvine> can I use gparted to just wipe out whole drive?
[22:30] <user345fgh> how do i change the ubuntu mirror for apt from my console?
[22:30] <clearedd> hi, I am having problems with thunderbird on ubuntu 9.04. It starts to load then just goes away. I have removed it and re-installed with no success, any ideas on what to try next?
[22:30] <PlasmaSheep> NetLarIrvine: that's like sawing off the branch you are standing on
[22:30] <PlasmaSheep> clearedd: start from terminal
[22:30] <Guest1604_948> my line issue is /usr/bin/fakeroot: 166: debian/rules: Permission denied dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 126
[22:30] <NetLarIrvine> PlasmaSheep but after I wipe out drive i will install Ubuntu
[22:31] <Guest1604_948> no clue
[22:31] <clearedd> ok let me reinstall and try that
[22:31] <PlasmaSheep> NetLarIrvine: If you run a program that deletes itself, do you expect it to finish running?
[22:31] <user345fgh> NetLarIrvine, the ubuntu installer can wipe the drive
[22:31] <PlasmaSheep> user345fgh: that's what I said
[22:31] <pronoy> NetLarIrvine: only humans commit suicide
[22:31] <Babbleback> anyone familar with how to start the windows switcher without the shortcut?
[22:31] <GnuSeb> hello, yesterday i installed the drivers to a new printer i got but i can't seem to get it to work, i don't know if there's something else that needs done regarding the cartridges
[22:32] <PlasmaSheep> Babbleback: add it to the panel
[22:32] <GnuSeb> it's an pixma ip1900 canon
[22:32] <PlasmaSheep> GnuSeb: try printing from windows
[22:33] <GnuSeb> PlasmaSheep, ive ubuntu only
[22:33] <GnuSeb> i've already downloaded and apparentlyinstalled the drivers for linux
[22:33] <GnuSeb> but it own't print
[22:33] <i3u4k> #aytekin abi bir sorunum daha var
[22:33] <i3u4k> aytekin : Radyo dinleyemiyorum
[22:34] <salmir> ex-chat
[22:34] <AnnonyMouse1> guys know when FF 3.5 is available in repo download/upgrade?
[22:35] <PlasmaSheep> !ff3.5 | AnnonyMouse1
[22:35] <Babbleback> PlasmaSheep, i have nothing but a desktop background... i was able to right click and add a launcher for xchat but thats all i've got available...i could add a launcher for windows-switcher if i knew the command
[22:35] <AnnonyMouse1> thnx
[22:35] <clearedd> PlasmaSheep, this is the error i get. /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc+.so.5: cannont open shared object file: Nosuch file or directory
[22:35] <Babbleback> basically trying to manually start the applet that was made for the netbook remix
[22:36] <Babbleback> there is no chrome around any windows i manage to open
[22:36] <Caleb_> Todays the day.Ive been virtualizing ubuntu but now im fully installing it with wubi...
[22:36] <antoni_> edbian: sorry i fell out for a moment, any answers?
[22:37] <PlasmaSheep> Babbleback: Not running a wm.
[22:37] <PlasmaSheep> metacity --replace.
[22:37] <trevor> hello people
[22:37] <PlasmaSheep> no period
[22:37] <Caleb_> Any tip on installing it?
[22:37] <PlasmaSheep> GnuSeb: what makes you think it's compatible?
[22:37] <pisecx> guys, according to you ff3.5 faq (nice, created a faq), I have to install firefox-3.5 and wait. can I just wait without any firefox-3.5 packages? I thought I will get update notification.
[22:37] <PlasmaSheep> Caleb_: follow the installer
[22:37] <PlasmaSheep> wubi sorta sucks
[22:37] <Babbleback> PlasmaSheep, not sure what to call the program that should be handling the windows.. i used to have the option between the classic and the one that is run by default... now neither is running
[22:37] <PlasmaSheep> pisecx: ?
[22:38] <PlasmaSheep> Babbleback: metacity --replace
[22:38] <user345fgh> how do i change the ubuntu mirror for apt from my console?
[22:38] <pisecx> PlasmaSheep: do I have to install firefox-3.5 package to get firefox 3.5?
[22:38] <PlasmaSheep> pisecx: erm, yes?
[22:38] <pisecx> why?
[22:38] <PlasmaSheep> it will give you an update notice
[22:38] <PlasmaSheep> because it's 3.5?
[22:38] <clearedd> PlasmaSheep, this is the error i get. /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc+.so.5: cannont open shared object file: Nosuch file or directory
[22:38] <pisecx> I thought "firefox" marker package is for such purposes
[22:38] <GnuSeb> PlasmaSheep, well, how do i check on that? i saw the driver on canon, also the software seems to work, when i go to administration and printing it shows up and it says there are pending jobs
[22:38] <clearedd> sorry I am new to ubuntu
[22:38] <GnuSeb> but it won't print them
[22:39] <PlasmaSheep> pisecx: firefox is meta pointing to latest version
[22:39] <pisecx> PlasmaSheep: exactly!
[22:39] <dethray> 3.5 is up?
[22:39] <PlasmaSheep> clearedd: google for libstdc5 install
[22:39] <Caleb_> No like how much disk space to allocate.Wubi only is suck if your hdd is fragmented heaps and/or your computer is really slow.My pc runs vista blazingly fast.It can handle wubi
[22:39] <PlasmaSheep> !ff3.5 | dethray
[22:39] <PlasmaSheep> pisecx: okay
[22:39] <pisecx> PlasmaSheep: why should I install firefox-3.5 package to get the latest firefox?
[22:39] <dethray> :)
[22:39] <pisecx> PlasmaSheep: If we already have meta package
[22:39] <pisecx> PlasmaSheep: is it a stupid question? =)
[22:40] <PlasmaSheep> pisecx: you install package firefox which points to the latest version
[22:40] <PlasmaSheep> quite common
[22:40] <pisecx> ff3.5 | pisecx
[22:40] <pisecx> !ff3.5 | pisecx
[22:40] <pisecx> "just install the currently available firefox-3.5 package from universe and wait. The final bits will be there really soon."
[22:41] <pisecx> why should I install this package if we already have meta firefox package? I don't understand
[22:41] <Caleb_> How much gb should i allocate for ubuntu?
[22:41] <PlasmaSheep> I guarantee you it will update by itself.
[22:41] <pisecx> aren't you going to update meta package?
[22:41] <clearedd> PlasmaSheep thanks!
[22:41] <clearedd> got it working
[22:41] <clearedd> any other libs you think i might need in the future?
[22:41] <PlasmaSheep> You will get 3.5 if you have 3.4 or whatev
[22:41] <pisecx> PlasmaSheep: so I don't have to install firefox-3.5 ?
[22:41] <PlasmaSheep> clearedd: unless it asks for, no
[22:41] <pisecx> manually
[22:41] <clearedd> i had 6 installed but not 5
[22:41] <PlasmaSheep> pisecx: no
[22:42] <pisecx> PlasmaSheep: ok, thanks, that was my question
[22:42] <mr_frostee> I have been using 3.5 for quite awhile.  It works great.
[22:45] <PlasmaSheep> wow
[22:45] <PlasmaSheep> quiet
[22:46] <stroyan> shh... it's nap time
[22:47] <weed37> who woke me up >.<
[22:48] <gangil1> this channel doesnt looks great when quiet!
[22:48] <m1r> netsplit in progress
[22:48] <PlasmaSheep> ah
[22:48] <PlasmaSheep> okay then
[22:48] <PlasmaSheep> that explains it
[22:48] <gangil1> m1r: what?
[22:48] <gangil1> netsplit?
[22:49] <PlasmaSheep> !netsplit | gangil1
[22:49] <gangil1> cool :)
[22:49] <Guest1604_948> my line issue is /usr/bin/fakeroot: 166: debian/rules: Permission denied dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 126
[22:49] <KFP> Hmm. Doesn't look like a netsplit.
[22:49] <Guest1604_948> any clue
[22:50] <m1r> KFP: definetly longer then ussual :)
[22:50] <TheNewGuy> Hi  Ive got compiz working, but I cant figure out how to get the cube rotating on my screen.  anyone know how to do that?
[22:50] <MrPockets> Rotate Cube
[22:50] <lel> ctrl+alt and left mouse button
[22:50] <zleap> compiz settings manager
[22:50] <MrPockets> click both mouse buttons and wiggle
[22:51] <lel> i've just finished installed fedora11 on my laptop but i can't figure how to install nvidia drivers
[22:51] <PlasmaSheep> Guest1604_948: how did you try to compile?
[22:51] <lel> i'm actually trying to download some package called akmods-nvidia but i can't seem to find it
[22:51] <m1r> lel: /join #fedora ?
[22:51] <lel> ah yea
[22:51] <lel> silly me
[22:51] <m1r> :)
[22:52] <TheNewGuy> pockets.. thats it?  I thought my aps would be on a cube floating on the screen?
[22:52] <RHN> Hello all; Has anyone had any success with desktop recorders I have tried instabul deskto-recorder and xvdicap, cant seem to get any working properly. Are there any others ?
[22:52] <MrPockets> TheNewGuy, what happens when you hit CTRL-ALT-LEft arrot
[22:52] <MrPockets> or Right arrow
[22:52] <MrPockets> wither
[22:52] <MrPockets> either*
[22:52] <FloodBot2> MrPockets: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <PlasmaSheep> RHN: hold down prntscrn :P
[22:53] <TheNewGuy> my whole desk top spins
[22:53] <TheNewGuy> its cool, just not what I thought
[22:53] <PlasmaSheep> :P
[22:53] <RHN> Mite not have a choice PlasmaSheep :)
[22:53] <MrPockets> well if you click both mouse buttons and hold 'em down, you chould be able to "grab" the cube and rotate it with the mouse
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> RHN:  i use 'recordmydesktop' and the gui for it. to make videos of 'tutorials'
[22:54] <TheNewGuy> I don't get a cube.. I get a sheet of paper with my running application on it.
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> TheNewGuy:  you have to set the # of desktops to be 4.
[22:54] <TheNewGuy> so when I spin it I flip the paper
[22:54] <RHN> gtl-RecordMydesktop Dr_Willis  ?
[22:54] <PlasmaSheep> TheNewGuy: add more desktops
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> RHN:  sounds right to me.. try it and see.
[22:54] <MrPockets> ^
[22:54] <hatter243> TheNewGuy, try changing the amount of desktops to 4.
[22:54] <TheNewGuy> oh!  cool... how?  been using linux for about 6 hours....
[22:54] <MrPockets> or even better, FIVE!
[22:54] <RHN> That one does work. But i find it eats so much resources the video is choppy
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> set the # of desktops to 12 that way you have a Do-Dechhadron!
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[22:55] <MrPockets> thats a tricky one, its in the General Tab IIRC
[22:55] <PlasmaSheep> TheNewGuy: bottom-right corner right click
[22:55] <TheNewGuy> and 4 hours spent trying to get java working!   I'll give it some more tinkering.
[22:55] <wizared> hello. i have an hp psc 2175 that works well with 8.04 im having trouble scaning, any ideas
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> 4 hrs for java? I just install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' and away java and flash and other things go.. :)
[22:56] <TheNewGuy> very cool.  thanks!
[22:57] <TheNewGuy> is there a way to set a screen saver that will spin my desktops on a cube ?
[22:57] <MrPockets> oh
[22:57] <MrPockets> that'd be pretty sweet...
[22:57] <TheNewGuy> LOL..
[22:57] <MrPockets> YARLY!
[22:57] <MrPockets> if you portforward 5900 to your machine
[22:58] <droolpal> I am not able to install an application because of unresolved dependencies with " Depends: libtiff-tools  but it is not installable
[22:58] <droolpal>  Depends: libjpeg-progs  but it is not installable" -- how do I figure out what is messing up my deps?
[22:58] <MrPockets> i'll show you some sweet shit
[22:58] <TheNewGuy> I saw a screen with the apps on a cube.... and it was slowly spinning.  thats what I thought this was.
[22:58] <PlasmaSheep> droolpal: google
[22:58] <cabrey> MrPockets, uhh no?
[22:58] <wizared> I can not get my printer to scan a paper into my documents file.can someone help?
[22:58] <droolpal> PlasmaSheep: yes, thanks, I try that first
[22:58] <droolpal> now I'm here
[22:58] <TheNewGuy> sorry pockes... I cant let access to the system.
[22:58] <PlasmaSheep> TheNewGuy: try ctrl-alt-left click and drag
[22:59] <TheNewGuy> plasma!  nice!!!   that is amazing... got a harrrrd on.
[22:59] <TheNewGuy> ;-)
[23:00] <PlasmaSheep> droolpal: try #ubuntu-motu?
[23:00] <TheNewGuy> what is that?
[23:00] <wizared> i am running 8.04 and cannot get my scanner to work. help please
[23:00] <PlasmaSheep> TheNewGuy: it's an erection
[23:00] <cabrey> TheNewGuy, are you talking about kde's plasma?
[23:00] <PlasmaSheep> cabrey: he's talking to me
[23:00] <PlasmaSheep> :P
[23:00] <qe2eqe> Yikes. Synaptic has crashed twice today. Where should I begin?
[23:00] <cabrey> PlasmaSheep, ahh ok :D
[23:00] <PlasmaSheep> :)
[23:00] <droolpal> PlasmaSheep: will do
[23:01] <PlasmaSheep> qe2eqe: apt-get
[23:01] <TheNewGuy> no I'm using umbutu... I'm a linux noob... but I know compoooters
[23:01] <PlasmaSheep> qe2eqe: or run it from terminal and induce crash
[23:01] <PlasmaSheep> sort of like inducing vomiting
[23:01] <cabrey> qe2eqe, report bugs!
[23:01] <PlasmaSheep> but not quite
[23:01] <qe2eqe> cabrey, that's what I mean
[23:01] <cabrey> !bugs | qe2eqe
[23:02] <maccam94> is there an ubuntu package of firefox 3.5 final?
[23:02] <volvo142> how come when i type "sudo passwd"  it tries to change root's password  instead of the user who is currently logged in 's password
[23:02] <TheNewGuy> no crashing for me... thats why I left billy company.
[23:02] <dunks> because sudo runs things as root..?
[23:02] <cabrey> !ff35 | maccam94
[23:03] <dunks> volvo142: just run passwd to change the users password
[23:03] <qe2eqe> cabrey, wow. So ubuntu-bug tool does all the super verbose information and sends to devs?
[23:03] <PlasmaSheep> volvo142: sudo runs commands as root
[23:03] <PlasmaSheep> try passwd
[23:03] <maccam94> cabrey: thanks
[23:03] <bishop> joining
[23:03] <PlasmaSheep> okay
[23:03] <cabrey> qe2eqe, automated bug reporting :)
[23:03] <qe2eqe> cabrey, nm, i see. Where do I look for the crash file?
[23:03] <cabrey> qe2eqe, sorta like MS / Apple's send, except you decide when to
[23:04] <qe2eqe> my god
[23:04] <Viper550> Will Firefox 3.5 be in the repos soon?
[23:04] <volvo142> Viper550 repos?
[23:04] <maccam94> !ff35 | Viper550
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Viper550: not for 9.04, they only do security updates
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Viper550: in those repos
[23:04] <maccam94> sebsebseb: won't it go in proposed/backports?
[23:04] <sebsebseb> maccam94: maybe in those
[23:05] <cabrey> maccam94, FF won't be automatically upgradeed to 3.5, you must explicitly install it
[23:05] <qe2eqe> cabrey, it's nice so far... but the if the 'content of the report' section is at all accurate, how are devs supposed to do anything with so little info?
[23:05] <cabrey> qe2eqe, if you want, you can always file it manually and talk with other people
[23:05] <TheNewGuy> Hi, what is the command to install all the extras when you load up a new system?  I want to switch my other system!  :-)
[23:05] <Lokian> anyone have experience getting ricoh webcam installed on HP Pavillion dv6700?
[23:05] <bthornton> Jaunty + Compiz + OpenOffice users: Is OpenOffice broken to the point of being almost useless on your system? In writer, highlighting text can cause text to disappear; sometimes text boxes (i.e. for Find and Replace) show no text even though there is text there; text randomly disappears in Impress, etc...
[23:06] <bthornton> There are so many problems that I don't even know how to file a bug report :p
[23:06] <bthornton> but I don't know if it's just me or what
[23:06] <volvo142> can somebody tell me what "repos" is
[23:06] <bthornton> volvo142: Repositories
[23:06] <bthornton> i.e. place for your package manager (apt) to download software
[23:06] <cabrey> volvo142, a vast collection of software available for you
[23:06] <usr13> volvo142: short for Repositories.  It's where you get your software from.
[23:07] <cabrey> volvo142, default repos have ~26,000 packages available
[23:07] <sa1> hello
[23:07] <usr13> cabrey: volvo142 Yea, lots!
[23:07] <LogicalGhost> Hello
[23:07] <Lokian> !webcam
[23:07] <volvo142> what is windows versions of apt-get ?
[23:07] <cabrey> volvo142, uhh an msi
[23:07] <cabrey> volvo142, scratch that, none
[23:08] <lstarnes> volvo142: windows doesn't have a package repository system
[23:08] <volvo142> who is the one/ones  that  put together  such  as apt-get
[23:08] <cabrey> volvo142, this is offtopic, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:08] <volvo142> i see; sorry
[23:08] <LogicalGhost> <-- Newb needs help - I've been trying to install Ubuntu on my old laptop but was having issues and out of curiosity when I restarted it with the boot CD I hit "Check Disk Integrity" and now it says I have errors in 1 files - what do I do?
[23:09] <usr13> volvo142: apt-get is particular to opensource. MS is not open source
[23:09] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[23:09] <sebsebseb> LogicalGhost: ok  maybe  you got a dirty or sractched  CD
[23:09] <TheNewGuy> what is the app for all the extras?   sudo apt-get ?
[23:09] <lstarnes> usr13: specifically, debian and its derivatives
[23:09] <LogicalGhost> So it's the CD that's damaged, not my computer?
[23:09] <volvo142> usr13 just because windows is not open source doesn't mean its thirdparty programs can't be
[23:09] <sa1> any one here use ubuntu pls
[23:09] <antix> does the latest ubuntu (or UNR) work good on the asus eee top? I can't find any information confirming this, just issues in the past..
[23:09] <sebsebseb> LogicalGhost: also  you can MD5um an ISO to make sure the download is good in the first place
[23:09] <LogicalGhost> Okay thank you I will try that
[23:10] <lstarnes> sa1: I think almost everyone here uses ubuntu
[23:10] <gogeta> antix eeebuntu is better
[23:10] <sa1> i want to know how i can install the cam on it
[23:10] <SageX> anyone here have hda intel audio drivers
[23:10] <gogeta> but yes unr works
[23:10] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  LogicalGhost
[23:10] <TheNewGuy> how do you install flash and java?
[23:10] <sa1> i have intgreted cam
[23:10] <cabrey> antix, eee top?
[23:10] <bishop> leaving...bbak
[23:10] <sa1> and i want know how i can use it
[23:10] <antix> gogeta: does the touch screen work?
[23:10] <SageX> anyone here have hda intel audio drivers
[23:10] <gogeta> antix: dunno thats 3rd party
[23:10] <usr13> volvo142: Sure there are open source applications for MS Windows, but the point is that MS Windows does not have opensource repository systems like apt or yum etc.
[23:10] <cabrey> SageX, i have an intel sound card
[23:11] <TheNewGuy> can anyone read this?
[23:11] <antix> cabrey: http://se.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=24&l2=169
[23:11] <SageX> are they the high definition ones cabrey
[23:11] <volvo142> usr13 who distros use yum?
[23:11] <jon> Hi
[23:11] <ichat> just one Q:  is it true that   9.10 will drop pidgin in favor of telepathy ?
[23:11] <marca311> the new guy: what, your message?
[23:11] <cabrey> SageX, lspci says yes
[23:11] <usr13> volvo142: RH, Suse etc.
[23:11] <gogeta> volvo142: redhat/fedora mandriva
[23:11] <gogeta> suse
[23:11] <antix> gogeta: that's something I need to know before buying.. can't find any info though..
[23:11] <TheNewGuy> i guess I am band... um... how long?
[23:11] <SageX> cabrey what audio client do you use
[23:11] <volvo142> is yum = rpm?
[23:11] <sa1> HELLO
[23:12] <cabrey> gogeta, opensuse uses yast, mandriva uses urpmi
[23:12] <cabrey> volvo142, no
[23:12] <SageX> cabrey what audio client do you use
[23:12] <cabrey> !ot | volvo142
[23:12] <gogeta> antix: thers no offical touch eee yet
[23:12] <marca311> sa1: hi
[23:12] <usr13> gogeta: Yes, and they have their own sets of repositories that basically contain the same packages.  (yes rpm / yum )
[23:12] <cabrey> SageX, what do you mean? I use ALSA & PulseAudio
[23:12] <SageX> oh
[23:12] <sa1> marca hi
[23:12] <mcalamelli> Hi, there's someone that know an issue related to jaunty and gmail/facebook?
[23:12] <SageX> cabrey,  some reason the oss ones work for me only??
[23:12] <gogeta> antix: but ubuntu does have support for touch screens
[23:12] <usr13> volvo142: Yes, and they have their own sets of repositories that basically contain the same packages.  (yes rpm / yum )
[23:13] <marca311> sa1: do you have a problem
[23:13] <coleys> mcalamelli: What browser?
[23:13] <mcalamelli> coleys: both firefox and opera
[23:13] <antix> gogeta: ok I hope it works though :)
[23:13] <cabrey> SageX, you're using OSS?
[23:13] <coleys> mcalamelli: Whats the issue? Like... facebook isn't loading or..?
[23:13] <sa1> yes
[23:13] <SageX> cabrey,  yea
[23:13] <gogeta> antix: try on the live cd and you will knoe
[23:13] <marca311> sa1: what is it?
[23:13] <cabrey> SageX, may i ask why?
[23:14] <sa1> i want to use my web cam
[23:14] <mcalamelli> coleys: i can't login in fb, and one issue in the wordpress dashboard
[23:14] <sa1> with ubuntu 9.04
[23:14] <usr13> volvo142: We should also add that apt is more sophisticated than yum / rpm.
[23:14] <ichat> Q:  is it true that   9.10 will drop pidgin for  telepathy ?
[23:14] <SageX> cabrey,  some reason the alsa drivers dont work
[23:14] <marca311> sa1: what webcam is it?
[23:14] <volvo142> usr13  how so?
[23:14] <mcalamelli> coleys: i can create a new draft, but i can't save it
[23:14] <cabrey> volvo142, you really need to go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:14] <coleys> mcalamelli: Uhh... It should work fine... I dont think fb requires flash or anything. Have your parents blocked you from fb =p?
[23:14] <usr13> volvo142: Several reasons, one is that it automatically resolves dependencies.
[23:15] <antix> gogeta: you mean the eeebuntu live cd?
[23:15] <sa1> its intgreted webcam
[23:15] <cabrey> usr13, go to #ubuntu-offtopic and that isn't true at all
[23:15] <marca311> what computer
[23:15] <volvo142> usr13 yum doesn't do auto resolve rependencies?
[23:15] <sa1> its included with the laptop
[23:15] <gogeta> antix: unr or eeebuntu
[23:15] <SageX> cabrey, i get this message when I select alsa in sound prefrences audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open audio device for playback.
[23:15] <mcalamelli> coleys: no blocks, also tested firefox as root
[23:15] <antix> gogeta: ok thanks I'll try :)
[23:15] <gogeta> antix: i assume ebuntu wil as well
[23:15] <cabrey> SageX, how about Pulseaudio?
[23:16] <marca311> sa1: what make and model of computer is it?
[23:16] <gogeta> antix: being a tougch eee is a common mod
[23:16] <usr13> volvo142: It does to a certain extent, but not as accurately as apt.
[23:16] <sa1> toushiba
[23:16] <cabrey> usr13, stop spreading FUD and go to the offtopic channel
[23:16] <mcalamelli> coleys: another tip, using another wifi, and my nokia, all works fine
[23:16] <sa1> toshiba computer
[23:16] <coleys> mcalamelli: Welll I dont thiink facebook is broken on jaunty... otherwise there would be a "pandemix /omg
[23:16] <mcalamelli> s/and/or/
[23:16] <marca311> sa1: toshiba what?
[23:16] <SageX> cabrey,  pulseaudio fails
[23:16] <antix> gogeta: yes but from what I've read the touch works better on the netbooks than the eee top
[23:16] <cabrey> SageX, what error?
[23:17] <usr13> cabrey: Ok, ok, but apt is more sophisticated than yum in a couple ways.  volvo142, I stand corrected.
[23:17] <SageX> no sound no error
[23:17] <mcalamelli> coleys: i know that :) anyway, this is really strange
[23:17] <sa1> how i can know where it is written
[23:17] <SageX> cabrey,  no sound no error box
[23:17] <gogeta> antix: eee top?
[23:17] <usr13> cabrey: Oh, come on. I'm not spreading FUD.
[23:17] <marca311> sa1: usually on the bottom
[23:17] <coleys> mcalamelli: Well you could try some more browsers see if you get same situation... (Like epiphany and Konqueror)
[23:17] <cabrey> SageX, what are you doing to test sound and how did you get back to ALSA / PA?
[23:17] <marca311> sa1: of the laptop
[23:18] <antix> gogeta: http://se.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=24&l2=169
[23:18] <gogeta> antix: you mean that atom 330 dule core desktop
[23:18] <mcalamelli> coleys: ephipany does the same result
[23:18] <SageX> cabrey,  sys > Prefs > sound
[23:18] <marca311> sa1: go to #\marca311
[23:18] <antix> gogeta: yes
[23:18] <coleys> mcalamelli: Give konqueror a try.
[23:18] <marca311> sa1: i mean #marca311
[23:18] <short__error> Ok when i booted up my system this morning i went to go to the add/remove progams in the Applications and it was not there...
[23:18] <mcalamelli> coleys: uhm, a lot of extra packages to add...
[23:19] <gogeta> antix: i woulda got a hp touch lol
[23:19] <coleys> mcalamelli: Yeah, its kde. =o
[23:19] <usr13> cabrey: Feel free to correct me, give correct information if you like, but don't accuse me of launching a FUD campaign.
[23:19] <gogeta> quad core
[23:19] <legend2440> is it adviseable to upgrade the ubuntu nvidia  180 drivers with the nvidia 185 drivers from the nvidia web site? will i have to reinstall or reconfigure erverytime there is a kernel upgrade?
[23:19] <MadScientist> hi people, someone who to use rhythmbox?
[23:19] <gogeta> nv  me thow
[23:19] <cabrey> usr13, move to #ubuntu-offtopic and i will
[23:19] <antix> gogeta: hm I haven't seen them. do you have a link?
[23:19] <SageX> cabrey,  sys > Prefs > sound
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> legend2440:  if the old driver does all you need.. i would stick with it.
[23:19] <cabrey> SageX, check to see PA is running.
[23:20] <sa1> pls how i can go there
[23:20] <legend2440> Dr_Willis: ok thanks. yes it works fine
[23:20] <SageX> cabrey,  how would I do that
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> legend2440:  'if its not broke.... ' :P
[23:20] <gogeta> antix: http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/touchsmart/
[23:20] <legend2440> Dr_Willis: don't fix it. yea thanks
[23:20] <cabrey> SageX, open a terminal and run ps aux | grep pulseaudio
[23:21] <cabrey> SageX, and look for pulseaudio ( ignore the grep pulseaudio one)
[23:21] <VK-kasoperro> Tomalaaaaa http://my-bikini-game.com/?id=4292320 pa fliparlo!
[23:21] <gogeta> antix: they get big toi
[23:21] <gogeta> likke 24 inch
[23:21] <gogeta> hdtv tuners as well
[23:21] <short__error> D= noone to help me
[23:21] <mcalamelli> coleys: isn't opera enough as test?
[23:22] <coleys> mcalamelli: Well there shouldn't really be a problem with facebook. So really this is just troubleshooting...
[23:22] <antix> gogeta: ok, no need for me. just need it for a POS system
[23:22] <gogeta> lol
[23:22] <mubu> Hey guys is there anyway I can change an application icon so that when I go to "Applications" and go to a specific app I can see it with a custom icon? Thanks Im using ubuntu 9.04
[23:22] <gogeta> antix: well standerd ubuntu sould have no problem with it
[23:22] <coleys> mubu: sudo apt-get install alacarte
[23:22] <th0r> does anyone know the correct gspca module for a creative vf-0250 webcam?
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> mubu:  you can customize your menus if you wanted to
[23:22] <mcalamelli> coleys: k. i'll try to debug the connection using wireshark
[23:22] <antix> gogeta: thanks I'll have a closer look
[23:22] <SageX> cabrey,  sage      3824  0.1  0.2 128024  7456 ?        Ssl  05:27   0:55 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
[23:22] <SageX> sage      3825  0.0  0.0   7844  2680 ?        S    05:27   0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
[23:22] <SageX> sage     17546  0.0  0.0   3340   812 pts/3    S+   18:21   0:00 grep pulseaudio
[23:23] <gogeta> antix: it should supoport the eeetop
[23:23] <mubu> Dr_Willis, how?
[23:23] <mubu> coleys thanks ill look into that to see if that suits my needs
[23:23] <short__error> Ok when i booted up my system this morning i went to go to the add/remove progams in the Applications and it was not there...
[23:23] <mcalamelli> coleys: if i can't get nothing interesting, i'll start with kdeisms...
[23:23] <coleys> mubu: IT will, after its installed right click on your Menu, and Choose "Edit Menu" or something.
[23:23] <gogeta> antix: but  for the price hp wins
[23:23] <irad> i have a blu-ray drive, is there a blu-ray player for linux?
[23:24] <gogeta> irad: vlc maybe
[23:24] <SageX> sage     17546  0.0  0.0   3340   812 pts/3    S+   18:21   0:00 grep pulseaudio
[23:24] <antix> gogeta: there has been issues with the touch screen for eeetop but not sure if it's fixed now.. the hp machine looks really nice!
[23:24] <SageX> cabrey, ...
[23:24] <TheNewGuy> hi
[23:25] <mubu> coleys, turns out I already have it. Its perfect
[23:25] <cabrey> SageX, hmm something definitely with the ALSA drivers
[23:25] <TheNewGuy> can anyone read this?
[23:25] <coleys> mubu: Great =)
[23:25] <SageX> cabrey,  what should I do?
[23:25] <gogeta> irad: looks like blueray needs some work
[23:25] <TheNewGuy> hello
[23:25] <bastidrazor> short__error, right click and edit menus.. do you see it in there?
[23:25] <gogeta> irad: http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/2007/04/05/how-to-play-blu-ray-and-hd-dvd-movie-discs-in-linux/
[23:25] <TheNewGuy> help
[23:25] <VCoolio> TheNewGuy: hi
[23:25] <TheNewGuy> help
[23:25] <TheNewGuy> thanks
[23:25] <FloodBot3> TheNewGuy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:25] <cabrey> SageX, /join #alsa and see if you should report a bug
[23:25] <TheNewGuy> k
[23:25] <gogeta> !ask | TheNewGuy
[23:26] <TheNewGuy> k
[23:27] <short__error> bastidrazor, no it is not there that is what confused me so much cause that was the first place that i looked
[23:27] <TheNewGuy> I just loaded umbutu  and someone helped me load a big package with flash and java and a whole bunch of stuff... anyone know what the general package is?
[23:27] <gogeta> TheNewGuy: as of 9.04 that package no longer is nedded
[23:27] <gogeta> all should be installed
[23:27] <dekushrub> Does anyone know I can replace Firefox 3 with Firefox 3.5 on ubuntu 9.04?
[23:28] <aacosta_> anyone familiar with vsftpd?
[23:28] <El_Piero> hellouu
[23:28] <TheNewGuy> gogeta, does it have other stuff in it?  extras?
[23:28] <jrib> !ff35 | dekushrub
[23:28] <bradsucks> hi, i have a laptop with the SiS video card, but when i install ubuntu in this computer the video resolution is 800 x 600 when in windows it is 1280x800. Exist a version of this driver for Ubuntu? thanks!
[23:28] <gogeta> the extras is installed by defult now
[23:28] <TheNewGuy> all of it?
[23:28] <gogeta> yep
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> dekushrub:  for a single user. you could just go to the firefox web site. and download the latest. and install it in the users home dir.
[23:29] <TheNewGuy> ok.
[23:29] <KingKha> hey, i have a usb hard drive that i generally keep turned off unless i need it, now that it's summer. It gets detected fine by ubuntu the first time i turn it on, but if i turn it off and later back on it's not recognized at all
[23:29] <dekushrub> jrib, firefox 3.5 official release came out today
[23:29] <TheNewGuy> dose it insall the real flash  or the open version of it?
[23:29] <gogeta> real
[23:29] <jrib> dekushrub: read the link ubottu gave you
[23:29] <jrib> aacosta_: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[23:29] <gogeta> go to youtube and chack for yourself
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> KingKha:  you do UNMOUNT it befor ya turn it off?
[23:30] <gogeta> thats a java flash site
[23:30] <TheNewGuy> wow... then installing it is what caused all the problems! LOL.
[23:30] <bradsucks> i need install a sis video driver, do you know a driver for Sis in Ubuntu?
[23:30] <gogeta> well if your running anything below 904 you need it
[23:30] <TheNewGuy> I had gnosh installed and it did not work, had to install the non-free version.
[23:30] <TheNewGuy> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:31] <TheNewGuy> anyone know if there is a multi-touch screen for linux?
[23:31] <gogeta> TheNewGuy: remove any old version of flash befor installing a new one
[23:31] <jschiff> TheNewGuy: multi touch was implemented in 2.6.30 kernel
[23:31] <jschiff> will work on hp touchsmart
[23:31] <gogeta> TheNewGuy: thers some multituch support yes but iv been issues
[23:32] <gogeta> been told
[23:32] <TheNewGuy> jschiff.. really it works well with hp touchsmart?
[23:32] <jschiff> yep
[23:32] <jschiff> although i still prefer a keyboard
[23:32] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a PPA that'd have FF 3.5?
[23:32] <jrib> !ff35 | Mike_lifeguard
[23:32] <TheNewGuy> is there cool software for it.. like grab something and enlarge?
[23:32] <gogeta> jschiff: eee keybord is gonna pown keybords
[23:33] <Mike_lifeguard> thanks
[23:33] <TheNewGuy> what is ee keyboard?
[23:33] <PlasmaSheep> gogeta: okay, I don't use keybords
[23:33] <gogeta> TheNewGuy: keybord with a eeepc  intergrated
[23:33] <bastidrazor> short__error, what have you uninstalled lately? or installed for that matter?
[23:33] <mubu> Hey guys, how can I update to firefox 3.5. I currently have 3.0.11 and downloaded the 3.5 tar file from mozilla.com thanks
[23:33] <jschiff> naw.. i will use that.
[23:33] <gogeta> comes out next month
[23:33] <mubu> I have ubuntu 9.04
[23:34] <jrib> !ff35 | mubu
[23:34]  * jrib is having fun
[23:34] <TheNewGuy> those have been around for years
[23:34] <PlasmaSheep> jrib: :P
[23:34] <PlasmaSheep> TheNewGuy: it'll pwn any day now...
[23:34] <PlasmaSheep> :P
[23:34] <bastidrazor> every time a new app comes out the flood of .. why isn't it in the repo's..  :\
[23:35] <gogeta> TheNewGuy: not like this has a 5 inch touchpad/monoter its a full pc inside can even be disconnected from the pc and act as a netbook has a internel battery
[23:35] <jschiff> portability is overated
[23:35] <TheNewGuy> I don't get it...  what can I google to find it?
[23:35] <PlasmaSheep> how can something be a netbook AND as an internal battery?
[23:35] <gogeta> lol
[23:35] <PlasmaSheep> or is my understanding of pseudo-english bad?
[23:35] <jschiff> priced at like 1000 bucks i'd rather get a macbook pro
[23:35] <gogeta> not pirced yet
[23:35] <PlasmaSheep> jschiff: lulz
[23:36] <PlasmaSheep> fail :P
[23:36] <short__error> bastidrazor, i disabled alsa, that is the only thing that i have done that i did not do before i reinstalled ubuntu......
[23:36] <bradsucks> hi i have a sis video card, but it's not found in ubuntu
[23:36] <jschiff> PlasmaSheep: Why fail?
[23:36] <TheNewGuy> your pseudo english is great! your real english is .. .kinda so so .
[23:36] <TheNewGuy> LOL
[23:36] <PlasmaSheep> they suck
[23:36] <jschiff> PlasmaSheep: i'm writing from one right now
[23:36] <mubu> When do you guys reckon Firefox 3.5 will be released to the jaunty repositories?
[23:36] <gogeta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r-y3HeNle0
[23:36] <PlasmaSheep> your loss
[23:36] <gogeta> look for yourself
[23:36] <jschiff> PlasmaSheep: switched from linux to macbook just a month ago
[23:37] <PlasmaSheep> why are you here then? :P
[23:37] <jschiff> PlasmaSheep: used linux for 5 years beforehand, and i'm not goin back
[23:37] <jschiff> i enjoy helping aspiring linux users
[23:37] <jrib> mubu: did you see what ubottu told you?
[23:37] <bastidrazor> short__error, /usr/bin/gnome-app-install  is the binary
[23:37] <jschiff> because linux is great
[23:37] <gogeta> intel atom 330 dule core
[23:37] <TheNewGuy> why did you leave linux?
[23:37] <gogeta> :)
[23:37] <jrib> !ot
[23:37] <mubu> jrib yeah, but no timeframe was mentioned
[23:37] <short__error> bastidrazor, i will try that ;o
[23:37] <forces> how can I install firefox 3.5?
[23:37] <jschiff> osx is a far more streamlined and developer friendly environment in my opinion
[23:37] <jrib> !ff35 | forces
[23:38] <jrib> mubu: "really soon"
[23:38] <forces> firefox 3.5 was released
[23:38] <jschiff> I've had the longest uptime on my macbook then i've had on any laptop in the past
[23:38] <bastidrazor> jrib aka Capt. FF
[23:38] <forces> the final
[23:38] <COOLKID4EVER> HI PEOPLE
[23:38] <COOLKID4EVER> im new here
[23:38] <puff> I have a USB keyboard plugged into my laptop.  Unfortuantely, the USB keyboard has a poorly-placed power button.  How can I either prevent ubuntu from powering down when it's hit, or force it to always use suspend instead of shutdown or restart?
[23:38] <sebsebseb> jrib: the second part of the factoid does not quite make sense
[23:38] <mubu> jrib, would you say "tomorrow-soon"? or before the weekend soon?
[23:38] <jrib> sebsebseb: what part is that?
[23:39] <jrib> mubu: a few days would be my guess
[23:39] <jschiff> partly because suspend and hibernate and all that works perfectly, partly because of the 7 hour battery, partly because each time linux breaks i don't have to reinstall or get frustrated and upgrade etc.
[23:39] <PlasmaSheep> COOLKID4EVER: wow, nice name =/
[23:39] <short__error> bastidrazor, bash: /urs/bin/gnome-app-install: No such file or directory
[23:39] <mubu> jrib, alright, thanks. cant wait
[23:39] <short__error>  D=
[23:39] <pw-toxic> hi, i didnt change anything, and my boot loader causes an ERROR 17
[23:39] <COOLKID4EVER> guys
[23:39] <PlasmaSheep> jrib: I have uptimes of weeks =/
[23:39] <sebsebseb> jrib: If you *need* to install, the firefox-3.5 *beta* package from the repositories  will be updated when testing is complete.
[23:39] <pw-toxic> could it be that my HDD crashed? how can i test my HDD?
[23:39] <bastidrazor> short__error, apt-get it?
[23:39] <TheNewGuy> also the new mac os. (latest core) is unix.  so in reality jshiff is still on a "linuxish" os
[23:39] <COOLKID4EVER> yea well
[23:39] <COOLKID4EVER> hey im new here
[23:40] <PlasmaSheep> okay
[23:40] <jrib> sebsebseb: oh you mean the english?  Feel free to suggest a correction :)
[23:40] <PlasmaSheep> we get it
[23:40] <jschiff> yep i wouldn't use anything before osx, with the unix core
[23:40] <hexer> .
[23:40] <COOLKID4EVER> i want to know how install the tar.gz file?
[23:40] <jschiff> tar xf file.tar.gz
[23:40] <PlasmaSheep> COOLKID4EVER: man tar
[23:40] <sebsebseb> jrib: well it sounds like there some sort of beta package in the repo, but it's not clear
[23:40] <jschiff> cd directory
[23:40] <jrib> COOLKID4EVER: what tar.gz file?
[23:40] <COOLKID4EVER> thx
[23:40] <jschiff> ./configure && make && make instal
[23:40] <PlasmaSheep> jrib: THE tar.gz file
[23:40] <jschiff> install*
[23:40] <PlasmaSheep> don't you know?
[23:40] <jrib> PlasmaSheep: oh.  I missed the "the"
[23:40] <PlasmaSheep> :P
[23:41] <bastidrazor> short__error, you spelled it wrong.. /usr/
[23:41] <jrib> COOLKID4EVER: you shouldn't install using tar.gz in general
[23:41] <short__error> rofl =|
[23:41] <MK13> is there a way for me to save my nvidia drivers so that that can be installed again w/out re-downloading?
[23:42] <Mike_lifeguard> so I've messed up with dpkg-divert... is there a way to just nuke all local diversions?
[23:42] <short__error> bastidrazor, well i now have it thru the install
[23:42] <jrib> MK13: don't delete the deb from /var/cache/apt/archives?
 COOLKID4EVER: you shouldn't install using tar.gz in general
[23:42] <PlasmaSheep> ?
[23:42] <DarkMage26> how can I view ms power point files??
[23:42] <bastidrazor> short__error, good. it is back in the menu?
[23:42] <jschiff> it's best to practice good practices when install source packages (tar.gz) by putting them in /usr/src/ and keeping the source so once your done you can just make uninstall, and get rid of it without hassle
[23:42] <Kasm279> im wondering how to change the default web browser and email client in ubuntu
[23:42] <jrib> DarkMage26: open office?
[23:42] <short__error> bastidrazor, yes it is
[23:42] <short__error> bastidrazor, thank you
[23:42] <jrib> PlasmaSheep: APT
[23:43] <bastidrazor> short__error, enjoy :)
[23:43] <jschiff> Kasm279: System -> Preferences -> Preffered Application
[23:43] <PlasmaSheep> jrib: not all packages in the world are in repos
[23:43] <jschiff> haha it's awesome i still remember this crap
[23:43] <TheNewGuy> what is <super>F key pattern?  is it shift F?
[23:43] <jrib> PlasmaSheep: "in general"
[23:43] <MK13> jrib, shows nothing about drivers
[23:43] <jschiff> super is the windows key
[23:43] <PlasmaSheep> and has anyone heard of ./configure && make && checkinstall ?
[23:43] <ThePulgarcito> Super is the Windows key
[23:43] <jrib> MK13: what shows nothing?
[23:43] <Kasm279> jschiff: oops
[23:43] <short__error> bastidrazor, i was extremely confused when that happened
[23:44] <PlasmaSheep> I never keep tar.gz sources
[23:44] <MK13> jrib, the folder shows nothing about the drivers unless it is linux restricted modules
[23:44] <jschiff> it's a good practice, otherwise you lose track of all the files it installs
[23:44] <Kasm279> jschiff: thanks, i must be blind for not seeing that :x
[23:44] <jschiff> no prob Kasm279
[23:44] <jrib> MK13: debs for packages you installed are saved there
[23:45] <COOLKID4EVER> can i install
[23:45] <COOLKID4EVER> tar.bz2 (32bit)
[23:45] <COOLKID4EVER> files/
[23:45] <TheNewGuy> what is the super key?
[23:45] <jschiff> TheNewGuy: super key is the windows key
[23:45] <wolter> Windows logo
[23:45] <COOLKID4EVER> on ubuntu im sure i can but im just new to thisle thing who
[23:45] <MK13> jrib, i was asking about a driver
[23:45] <jrib> COOLKID4EVER: no one can help you if you do not answer questions.
[23:45] <PlasmaSheep> COOLKID4EVER: ^^
[23:45] <coleys> COOLKID4EVER: Which program are you trying to install?
[23:45] <TheNewGuy> thanks... macman!  :-)
[23:45] <jrib> MK13: the driver is in APT as a package.  That is how you installed it right?
[23:45] <PlasmaSheep> coleys: the tar.gz file :P
[23:45] <jschiff> lol
[23:45] <COOLKID4EVER> im trying to install vuze
[23:46] <coleys> COOLKID4EVER: sudo apt-cache search vuze
[23:46] <coleys> COOLKID4EVER: Then if it finds it, sudo apt-get install [packagename]
[23:46] <jrib> !software > COOLKID4EVER
[23:46] <COOLKID4EVER> ok thank you let me try that really qucik
[23:46] <TheNewGuy> jschiff... since the mac os is really unix... have you really gone that far away?  I don't think so.  you just have a great desktop! LOL
[23:46] <MK13> jrib, through the "hardware driver" item in  the system menu, yea
[23:46] <ThePulgarcito> coleys: Aptache shouldn't need sudo
[23:46] <jschiff> yep, my most used applications are still Terminal and vim
[23:46] <jrib> MK13: it's nvidia-*
[23:46] <PlasmaSheep> I mean, for noobs like COOLKID4EVER, apt all the way
[23:47] <PlasmaSheep> because...
[23:47] <PlasmaSheep> yeah
[23:47] <coleys> ThePulgarcito: Uhh.. Im just covering all bases dont use ubuntu myself. Don't remember the intricies of it =P
[23:47] <jschiff> COOLKID4EVER: http://forlong.blogage.de/en/entries/2008/12/2/How-to-install-and-update-Vuze-formerly-Azureus-4-on-Ubuntu
[23:47] <jrib> PlasmaSheep: it's not just for beginners.  APT is what you should always use...
[23:47] <MK13> jrib, nothing w/ nvidia is shown
[23:47] <jrib> MK13: is it installed?
[23:47] <MK13> yea
[23:47] <PlasmaSheep> jrib: I meant that beginners should always use apt.
[23:47] <TheNewGuy> cool, whats vim?
[23:47] <jschiff> A little googling is your friend
[23:47] <jrib> MK13: aptitude search '~i~nnvidia'
[23:47] <jschiff> vim is and editor, just like emacs
[23:47] <jschiff> and nano
[23:47] <PlasmaSheep> I disagree that apt is what you should always use, jrib
[23:47] <coleys> TheNewGuy: Cli editor
[23:48] <bastidrazor> PlasmaSheep, it creates less opportunity to break tings
[23:48] <bastidrazor>  +h
[23:48] <bishop> joining
[23:48] <PlasmaSheep> bastidrazor: so?
[23:48] <jrib> PlasmaSheep: package management is the whole point of a distribution
[23:48] <DarkMage26> I have a ms power point presentation 2007 and would like to view it in ubuntu. How do I open it in open office?
[23:48] <COOLKID4EVER> hey thanks guys its installing
[23:48] <coleys> COOLKID4EVER: wo =)
[23:48] <MK13> jrib, what would i be looking for in the printout?
[23:48] <jschiff> Quadruple click and pray
[23:48] <PlasmaSheep> jrib: well, that doesn't mean I should always use it
[23:48] <irad> i have 2 dvd drives, 1 is a blu-ray how do i get mplayer to play the blu-ray?
[23:48] <gogeta> PlasmaSheep: apt 4 life
[23:49] <jschiff> i prefer emerge to apt
[23:49] <coleys> I prefer pacman to emerge =D
[23:49] <jrib> PlasmaSheep: yes it does :)
[23:49] <COOLKID4EVER> thx coley i followed ur instruction
[23:49] <gogeta> PlasmaSheep: emrerge
[23:49] <jschiff> eh pacman is fast
[23:49] <jschiff> but emerge i still like better
[23:49] <PlasmaSheep> gogeta: you talk about 'keybords' and use '4' instead of 'for', so excuse me if I don't take you seriously.
[23:49] <gogeta> thats gentoo
[23:49] <TheNewGuy> jschiff, do I need special software to run multi-touch on hp ?  I mean with the linux not with the ugly op that comes with it.
[23:49] <mneptok> PlasmaSheep: apt is what you should always use. i say this as a former Senior Ubuntu System Support Analyst for Canonical. you are welcome to disagree, but i think my opinion and experience carries more weight.
[23:49] <MK13> DarkMage26, open office should already support 2007 .docx documents
[23:49] <jschiff> TheNewGuy: it takes a bit of work to make multi touch work on it
[23:49] <PlasmaSheep> mneptok: Do you play many games?
[23:50] <ab__> q
[23:50] <gogeta> mneptok: :)
[23:50] <TheNewGuy> I assume its not really that stable when installed?
[23:50] <mickster04> ab__, ?
[23:50] <gogeta> mneptok: as a 12 year user i agree
[23:50] <DarkMage26> MK13, I tried to open the file and now it wants me to select a filter. Not sure what to do.
[23:50] <jschiff> TheNewGuy: i'd wait a while, until 2.6.30 becomes mainstream
[23:50] <mneptok> PlasmaSheep: no. i'm busy actually doing work.
[23:50] <mdg> hey mickster04 !  Get your wifi working?
[23:50] <mickster04> !ask ab__
[23:50] <jschiff> then people should be writin guides on it
[23:50] <ab__> sorry wrong window
[23:50] <TheNewGuy> ok, is that the linux core?
[23:50] <jschiff> that's the linux kernel
[23:51] <TheNewGuy> thanks.
[23:51] <mneptok> PlasmaSheep: the fact that games aren't packaged for Debian doesn;t mean you should not use apt whenever possible. full stop.
[23:51] <PlasmaSheep> mneptok: then you wouldn't notice that there are no up to date games in apt except solitaire and wurms
[23:51] <NetLarIrvine> Do a lot of you have dual boot machines??
[23:51] <MK13> DarkMage26, i never had it ask me... just select one and trial and error
[23:51] <mickster04> mdg yeah :D altho i realised i hadnt actually checked if it was properly roken...
[23:51] <nbie> need i permisions for execute mv command ?
[23:51] <jschiff> multi touch support was introduced in the 2.6.30 kernel, most distros right now are using 2.6.29
[23:51] <mneptok> PlasmaSheep: see above
[23:51] <TheNewGuy> thanks everyone,  very helpful!  bye
[23:51] <emet> jeu
[23:51] <emet> hey
[23:51] <COOLKID4EVER> i have dual boot
[23:51] <DarkMage26> MK13, thanks.
[23:51] <rickest> NetLarIrvine: yes
[23:51] <mickster04> mdg i assumed that cos it hadnt said i had plugged the thing in, it was broken :/
[23:51] <PlasmaSheep> What I'm saying is that you can't, nor should always use apt.
[23:51] <emet> what is the name of the GTK+ diff tool in ubuntu repos
[23:51] <mickster04> mdg but it works now brilliantly
[23:51] <NetLarIrvine> I just did not see any reason anymore to keep windoes
[23:51] <mdg> mickster04: Excellent!
[23:51] <emet> let you find the differences in two files
[23:51] <jschiff> I always used apt when i was on ubuntu PlasmaSheep
[23:51] <COOLKID4EVER> I still use windows for school
[23:51] <geirha> emet: meld I think
[23:51] <mneptok> PlasmaSheep: apt is what you should use *wnerevr possible*
[23:52] <NetLarIrvine> I can use Virtual box if I really have to
[23:52] <PlasmaSheep> jschiff: your loss
[23:52] <emet> yes it's meld thank you
[23:52] <mneptok> *whenever
[23:52] <jschiff> how is it my loss?
[23:52] <RomD> I don't have sound in ogg-theora videos in firefox 3.5 on hardy with pulseaudio. is there a way to resolve this problem?
[23:52] <rickest> NetLarIrvine: GAMES
[23:52] <PlasmaSheep> mneptok: well, that's different :P
[23:52] <PlasmaSheep> jschiff: repos not always up to date
[23:52] <jschiff> what can any other package manager on ubuntu do better then raw apt?
[23:52] <Federica> ciao
[23:52] <puff> I have a USB keyboard plugged into my laptop.  Unfortuantely, the USB keyboard has a poorly-placed power button.  How can I either prevent ubuntu from powering down when it's hit, or force it to always use suspend instead of shutdown or restart?
[23:52] <NetLarIrvine> <-- horrible game player
[23:52] <gogeta> PlasmaSheep: dissing apt on a deb based distro should be a banning
[23:52] <jschiff> you can add 3rd part repos
[23:52] <Federica> !list
[23:52] <COOLKID4EVER> Netlarirvine are you good with windows
[23:52] <jschiff> as i often do for things like wine
[23:52] <PlasmaSheep> gogeta: the abuse you inflict on the English language deserve a ban
[23:52] <jschiff> because the wine that is in the ubuntu repo's is horribly outdated and sucks
[23:52] <NetLarIrvine> Have not used it full time for like 10 years now
[23:53] <NetLarIrvine> Been on a Mac for long time now
[23:53] <PlasmaSheep> jschiff: not every little program has a repository
[23:53] <jschiff> most do
[23:53] <COOLKID4EVER> ah i c
[23:53] <jschiff> name one that doesn't
[23:53] <COOLKID4EVER> im in school for computer networking
[23:53] <PlasmaSheep> Firefox.
[23:53] <puff> I've been hearing a lot, lately, about synaptic being substantially better/more reliable for dist-upgrades than apt.  This botehres me.
[23:53] <COOLKID4EVER> i hope to learn security wth linux
[23:53] <NetLarIrvine> Virtual Box seems stable enough now
[23:53] <COOLKID4EVER> im using backtrack right now
[23:53] <sebsebseb> !ot
[23:53] <jschiff> firefox is plenty up to date
[23:53] <jrib> puff: what do you mean by "dist-upgrade" exactly?
[23:53] <PlasmaSheep> jschiff: really?
[23:53] <PlasmaSheep> and 3.5?
[23:54] <puff> jrib: admittedly, that's part of the problem with apt.
[23:54] <jschiff> yep
[23:54] <jschiff> ppa repo
[23:54] <mickster04> how secure is ubuntu from the box, what about firewall settings, and temp stuff from browsers?
[23:54] <NetLarIrvine> COOLKID4EVER I use Parallels on my mac
[23:54] <mickster04> pm me:D
[23:54] <PlasmaSheep> jschiff: nexuiz.
[23:54] <PlasmaSheep> Tremulous.
[23:54] <jschiff> getdeb.com
[23:54] <jrib> !pm | mickster04
[23:54] <PlasmaSheep> jschiff: not there.
[23:54] <jschiff> yes it is
[23:54] <jschiff> nexuiz 2.5.1 is on getdeb
[23:55] <jrib> mickster04: ubuntu has no services listening on any ports by default so it's secure in that respect
[23:55] <PlasmaSheep> Except it never works.
[23:55] <jschiff> worked for me
[23:55] <jschiff> and of course when your installing a deb your using apt
[23:55] <PlasmaSheep> Segfaults for me and fails for almost everyone else.
[23:55] <COOLKID4EVER> Net i dont know anything about mac
[23:55] <PlasmaSheep> And tremulous?
[23:55] <MK13> jrib, i guess i have used apt-get clean since installing them, thnx anyway
[23:55] <phisliqshey> Turkce
[23:55] <mickster04> jrib oh ok, what about open ports etc
[23:55] <phisliqshey> bilen
[23:55] <phisliqshey> varmı
[23:55] <phisliqshey> ?
[23:55] <COOLKID4EVER> I just know about windows
[23:55] <FloodBot3> phisliqshey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:55] <linduxed> i have one directory that i backed up onto an extHDD some time ago, and i want to have a command print what new files there are, which ones have changed and which ones are missing. which command do i use?
[23:55] <NetLarIrvine> COOLKID4EVER it is stable and works well enough
[23:55] <PlasmaSheep> And blender?
[23:55] <jschiff> blender is in apt
[23:55] <jrib> linduxed: no idea but I would see if rsync can do that
[23:55] <coleys> linduxed: cat /path/to/directory
[23:56] <PlasmaSheep> Yes, if a dinosaur is acceptable.
[23:56] <jschiff> i think ubuntu is 1 subversion down
[23:56] <jschiff> nope
[23:56] <jschiff> blender 2.49 is latest
[23:56] <jschiff> ubuntu has 2.48
[23:56] <COOLKID4EVER> ah i c
[23:56] <FloodBot3> jschiff: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <COOLKID4EVER> i played with the new window 7
[23:56] <PlasmaSheep> Which isn't the one in repos unless it's been updated recently.
[23:56] <COOLKID4EVER> okay
[23:56] <NetLarIrvine> COOLKID4EVER always been torn between ubuntu and os x
[23:56] <jschiff> and in which case you can download the latest version from blender.org
[23:56] <gogeta> osx
[23:56] <NetLarIrvine> COOLKID4EVER how do you like MS 7
[23:56] <linduxed> jrib: will check
[23:56] <gogeta> ;0
[23:56] <gogeta> ;0
[23:56] <FloodBot3> gogeta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <COOLKID4EVER> what are your dislikes about ubuntu?
[23:57] <gogeta> lol
[23:57] <PlasmaSheep> You can't hope to argue that apt/repos always has the most recent version of EVERYTHING.
[23:57] <PlasmaSheep> That's ridiculous.
[23:57] <puff> jrib: A dist-upgrade is how you go from, say, intrepid to jaunty.
[23:57] <COOLKID4EVER> it is ok very similar to vista
[23:57] <PlasmaSheep> Not even mneptok will agree I'm sure.
[23:57] <MK13> COOLKID4EVER, most ppl prolly have already messed w/ win7 (beta/RC) :D
[23:57] <NetLarIrvine> COOLKID4EVER does not have all the software I need
[23:57] <jrib> !backups > linduxed
[23:57] <jschiff> i'm saying that anything usefull is ridiculously easy to get
[23:57] <jschiff> and all through apt
[23:57] <jrib> linduxed: that may be something you are interested in as well
[23:57] <bazhang> PlasmaSheep, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:57] <COOLKID4EVER> yea mk13
[23:57] <caio> how can I upgrade a library manually? compiling, etc... just compile that? remove old?
[23:57] <PlasmaSheep> Wow, way to be objective.
[23:57] <COOLKID4EVER> ah i c
[23:57] <jschiff> barely ever do i have to compile my own packages
[23:57] <NetLarIrvine> COOLKID4EVER there is some software that I use that only work on mac or windows
[23:57] <dk_> HOW ARE YOU UBUNTEROS!?
[23:57] <jschiff> i had to do it once for libuvc because i wanted to tweak with the source
[23:58] <COOLKID4EVER> like which software?
[23:58] <linduxed> jrib: hmmm i liked those
[23:58] <NetLarIrvine> Quicken and iTunes come to mind and some special business software
[23:58] <TDJACR> When I am playing a game, such as bzflag or Nexuiz, my arrow keys seem to "get stuck".
[23:58] <jschiff> clean your keyboard ;)
[23:58] <Kasm279> lol
[23:58] <gogeta> NetLarIrvine: itunes wine can do
[23:58] <gogeta> ;0
[23:58] <COOLKID4EVER> oh i c
[23:59] <TDJACR> I have replaced by keyboard.
[23:59] <Kasm279> TDJACR: wired or wireless?
[23:59] <jschiff> iTunes in wine is useless
[23:59] <TDJACR> Wired
[23:59] <Kasm279> hm
[23:59] <gogeta> supports ipods fine
[23:59] <TDJACR> my*
[23:59] <PlasmaSheep> TDJACR: Whatever it is, the solution is in apt, since apt always has the most recent version of everything useful.
[23:59] <NetLarIrvine> gogeta Bronze in wine?
[23:59] <COOLKID4EVER> what i noticed about ubuntu is that is seems to crash alot
[23:59] <jschiff> now your just being arrogant PlasmaSheep :)
[23:59] <Kasm279> COOLKID4EVER: it does?
[23:59] <rgavril> Anyone interested in creating a name for a software i'm developing ? :D
[23:59] <jrib> !ot | rgavril
[23:59] <TDJACR> PlasmaSheep, This has been happening for a while now,
[23:59] <mickster04> COOLKID4EVER, i have never crashed ubuntu
[23:59] <bazhang> PlasmaSheep, jschiff please take chat elsewhere
[23:59] <COOLKID4EVER> it has crash about tree times on me
[23:59] <gogeta> COOLKID4EVER: it does ?
[23:59] <rgavril> sorry