[17:44] <ldiamond> Slart, that doesnt work. I put insmod, then mount in the same file (/etc/rc.local) but the mount doesnt wait for the driver to be loaded and fails
[17:44] <Dvlpr> Im running <IP_ADDRESS>, while 9.0.4 is last version
[17:44] <Vixen-> Kangarooo: It says so on the appdb, but I'm having an issue with my monitor
[17:44] <coz_> Tootoot222,  hold on  try looking here   http://linuxappfinder.com/multimedia
[17:45] <Slart> ldiamond: perhaps the module is inserted but then the driver needs a little while before it can handle requests
[17:45] <vito____> :Piet even without presto this isn't true if i want yum install in fedora this is the same as apt-get update; apt-get install in ubuntu. if i want disable update of list of repositories i can do that with yum -C install. yum is not less faster than apt if they do the same things. Then if you use presto plugin it is a lot faster. I like ubuntu a lot more than fedora only i  wish it had something similar to presto ..
[17:45] <ldiamond> Slart, my guess is insmod exits, but the driver still has to load itself fully
[17:45] <Slart> ldiamond: what kind of driver is it?
[17:45] <criminy|w> I need to remove/purge all non-ubuntu-server packages
[17:45] <ldiamond> Slart, RAID card driver
[17:45] <yaris123456789> hello guys lets say i do "ln -s file1 file2" file2 is deleted. what happens when i try to open up file2 ?
[17:46] <cemerick> so, I had an old fedora 7 system set up with software raid 1 across two auxiliary disks, in addition to the boot disk.  I installed ubuntu 9.0.4, and the software raid seems to have *persisted* across the complete reformat and install into the boot disk.  How is this possible?
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> lenswipe:  yaris123456789  soft links would be 'broken' if the thing they are pointing to - are removed
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> oops typo
[17:46] <Slart> ldiamond: if you check the syslog when you insert a removable drive or similar it actually says that it is "waiting for the drive to settle down" before continuing.. I'm not sure if you can check the status of your raid card using the command line.. can you?
[17:46] <talto1> hey, i have unseted directorys that i've created long time ago in /mnt/ .. how can i remove those shares?
[17:46] <Dr_Willis>  yaris123456789  soft links would be 'broken' if the thing they are pointing to - are removed
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> yaris123456789 It should bring up file 1
[17:47] <yaris123456789> Dr_Willis: so i would need hardlinks then ?
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> yaris123456789:  hard links are a file with 2 different names
[17:47] <Slart> yaris123456789: you'll get an error
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> yaris123456789:  no idwa what you are trying todo. :) soft links are used 99% of the time
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> yaris123456789:  if you use hardlinks and name1 gets deleted.. name2 still exists
[17:47] <newbe> Does anybody know how to open the faillog file or any command that I can use in terminal
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> yaris123456789 Ignore me on that, I must have missed something
[17:47] <Slart> yaris123456789: hard links wouldn't delete the data until there are no more links pointing to it.. or something like that
[17:48] <talto1> hey, Question::-> i have unseted directorys that i've created long time ago in /mnt/ .. how can i remove those shares?
[17:48] <ldiamond> Slart, I have no idea
[17:48] <yaris123456789> heres my scenario: i am running wget -r something.com, i am mving one downloaded file to another location. however, when wget -r comes across the same link , and looks for it. its not there. it will start redownloading. wheenever it sees this link it will continue, and we are caught in a loop.
[17:48] <akidd116> does anyone know the command to run in the terminal to call up the python interpreter?
[17:48] <Slart> ldiamond: why not just put a 2 second sleep command between them, if that is what it takes to make it work.. or you are doing this often enough that waiting isn't an option?
[17:48] <Slart> akidd116: python
[17:48] <Daremonai> Why does vino server lag vlc's videos if the client's vnc client is minimized? (it lags it up till the point of unwatchability)
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> akidd116:  it hought it was 'python' :)
[17:49] <Piet> vito____: for updating the repository info and installing available updates, apt-get always seemed faster to me than yum. but then i haven't used yum in a while, so i may well be wrong there.
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> videos over vnc? ICK! :)
[17:49] <akidd116> haha, wow thats easy enough then
[17:49] <ldiamond> Slart, I was looking for a more elegant way to do this, this is done at boot. Jaunty boots fast, if I add 2-3 seconds (1sec is too short) it kinda defeat the fast boot...
[17:50] <Daremonai> Dr_Willis, hehe nah.. am not watching it on vnc, I watch it on my server pc, but I use vnc as a way to control it - so basically, I use my laptop as a remote control :P
[17:50] <newbe> Does anybody know how to open the faillog file or any command that I can use in terminal
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> I find  that a fast boot time..is vastly overshadowed by my HUGE MASSIVE LARGE uptimes. :)
[17:50] <criminy|w> how can I take an ubuntu system that is setup and remove all non-base or non-server packages?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Daremonai:  many of those media players can support a terminal, or web based or other remote type controll. :)
[17:51] <Slart> ldiamond: well.... perhaps you could just start this script and then continue with the boot process.. if you do not need the raid drive immediately for booting something
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> Daremonai:  or ive used 'syngery' befor to controll them also
[17:51] <samd> hey im abou to compress a 5 gig files, what format will do it faster?? ".tar", ".tar.gz" or ".zip"???
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> samd:  tar is not compressed.
[17:51] <Slart> ldiamond: that way it would just wait while the computer is doing the rest of the booting..
[17:51] <criminy|w> .tar =)
[17:51] <coz_> criminy|w,   sudo apt-get autoremove gnome-desktop?   I really dont know so dont do that without confirmation
[17:51] <Slart> samd: tar doesn't compress stuff iirc
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> samd:  you want faster to compress? to uncmompress? or smallest size. :)
[17:51] <Daremonai> Dr_Willis, it's not the only reason I use vnc, it's one of the reasons.
[17:51] <ldiamond> I dont need the raid for booting, but if I add sleep in the /etc/rc.loacl file, will it block on the sleep?
[17:51] <criminy|w> coz_: thanks. I don't have gnome-desktop so that won't work =\
[17:51] <samd> Dr_Willis, Slart , ohh, didnt knew that :pp, thanks,
[17:51] <Yankefish> hey i need help
[17:51] <ldiamond> Slart, I dont need the raid for booting, but if I add sleep in the /etc/rc.loacl file, will it block on the sleep?
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> samd:  dont forget bz2 also! :)
[17:52] <samd> Dr_wills, im interested in smallest size, and fast uncompress
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> !archive
[17:52] <Yankefish> i d/l teh nexest ubuntu, and burned after cold reboot just hangs when i select install
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> !zip
[17:52] <coz_> criminy|w,  do you have  desktop environment?
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> samd:   how about speed to compress? :)
[17:52] <Slart> ldiamond: I'm not sure if the boot scripts are run in some weird way but just call your script with a & at the end and it will be forked off to background
[17:52] <dylan_> anyways, I am trying to follow these instruction I got from a help forum http://pastebin.ca/1426530, and I am not quite sure exaclty what I should do, can someone have a look at them and explain to me what needs to be done ?
[17:52] <criminy|w> coz_: no. this is a server.
[17:52] <coz_> criminy|w,  ok sorry guy I misunderstood
[17:52] <ldiamond> Slart, I'll try that, thanks
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> good luck. i gotta run
[17:53] <samd> Dr_Wills, dont care that much, as long as it dont take excessive time for 5 gig
[17:53] <criminy|w> someone may have installed X, but I need to purge it all and start again, without losing my network settings. I don't have physical access to the machine so a re-install is no good
[17:53] <rkitect> I have a simple Ubuntu Server 8.04 question if someone has a sec.
[17:53] <Slart> samd: why not make a small benchmark.. bz2, zip are the two main candidates I think
[17:53] <criminy|w> rkitect: shoot.
[17:53] <Yankefish> can someone help me plz
[17:53] <Jack_Sparrow> rkitect We do have a server channel
[17:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > Yankefish
[17:54] <henux> If I want to integrate my own app to the new notification system in Ubuntu 9.04, which library should I use?
[17:54] <rkitect> i will head there, what's the room name?
[17:54] <samd> Slart, ight, i might go for zip, cuz of compatibility, and how's illl make a benchmark? with a software, or just a raw test?
[17:54] <Daremonai> Jack_Sparrow, he already asked his question
[17:54] <rkitect> channel name rather
[17:54] <henux> If I want to integrate my own app to the new notification system in Ubuntu 9.04, which library should I use?
[17:54] <Jack_Sparrow> rkitect #ubuntu-server
[17:54] <progre55> hi people! is there any programs to edit pdf files??
[17:54] <rkitect> ty
[17:54] <Yankefish> after cold reboot with ubuntu, i select install, after 5 monutes it just hangs is this normal
[17:54] <Slart> Yankefish: try checking the cd (there is an option for doing that in the boot menu).. also try the noapic, nolapic, noapci grub switches.. sometimes those are necessary
[17:54] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:55] <samd> henux, notify-send "hey"
[17:55] <GreenDelta2> hey, i remember, there was a small package i had to install to have the microsoft true type fonts (like impact), which one was this??
[17:55] <henux> samd: from C program
[17:55] <chuck_> progre55, pdfedit
[17:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Daremonai That link also asks for patience...
[17:55] <Slart> samd: look at wristwatch, compress, look again at wristwatch.. do serious math involving time.. =)
[17:55] <henux> ah
[17:55] <henux> libnotify
[17:55] <progre55> chuck_, thanks man, appreciate! )
[17:55] <henux> thx
[17:55] <Yankefish> thx
[17:55] <Daremonai> Jack_Sparrow, ah alright :) my bad!
[17:55] <samd> Slart, ight xD thanks
[17:55] <Slart> samd: I think there is a command to time how long a command takes to run too.. if you don't have a watch or something =)
[17:55] <TBeholder> Hi! i updated to 9.04, installed new ATI driver (doesn't work without it), now it all stuck.
[17:55] <TBeholder> after login i see only desktop's background, but not icons or menu.
[17:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:55] <TBeholder> i tried to switch to kubuntu (ran aptitude from command line), but it's the same, so problem isn't in Gnome. what to do?
[17:55] <chuck_> progre55, your welcome
[17:56] <samd> Slart, ight thanks  , ill look into that
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> TBeholder Is everything fine except desktop icons?
[17:56] <Daremonai> TBeholder, any errors?
[17:56] <sjzzalx> I don't care if my user has an easy-to-guess password, I want something short and easy for convenience. passwd isn't allowing this. How can I make it allow it? Must I sudo passwd?
[17:56] <Dvlpr> autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1 autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
[17:57] <Dvlpr> any idea why this can happen?
[17:57] <Slart> sjzzalx: there has to be a config file for password requirements..
[17:57] <Jack_Sparrow> TBeholder  Lost icons after kernel install manually start nautilus and save the session .. then reboot.  But seems some of the customizations may be gone ... window view settings and all
[17:57] <Dvlpr> autoconf/autoreconf doesnt work at all :\
[17:57] <TBeholder> Jack_Sparrow  only background and mouse cursor. nothing works but ctr-alt-del and ctrl-alt-F#
[17:57] <Daremonai> sjzzalx, login as root and do it, most times it'll let you do whatever you want. Try that
[17:57] <samd> progre55 try pdfedit
[17:57] <blackbeard2000> with the command "lspci -vv" under "Host bridge"... The Capability "Rate=x1,x2" means which AGP-rates my motherboard can do, right?
[17:57] <sjzzalx> thanks guys.
[17:57] <GreenDelta2> hey, i remember, there was a small package i had to install to have the microsoft true type fonts (like impact), which one was this??
[17:57] <samd> progre55 "sudo apt-get install pdfedit"
[17:57] <peacewise> sound not working in ubuntu 8.10 plz help
[17:58] <Slart> sjzzalx: man pam_cracklib seems to have some interesting info
[17:58] <rkitect> well, the server channel is dead, so i'm gonna see if anyone here may know: when the install hits CD Drive detection phase, it can not detect the cd drive, yet it's loading the setup from the cd drive.  Any ideas as to what the mishap is here?
[17:58] <Slart> !info msttcorefonts
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> peacewise: has it worked at all, or did it just suddenly stop working?
[17:58] <Daremonai> GreenDelta2: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[17:58] <Slart> GreenDelta2: see what ubottu said above
[17:58] <TBeholder> peacewise  try to tweak setup and sound properties. Sometimes proper value is set to 0 without an apparent reason
[17:59] <peacewise> not worked at all... @IndyGunFreak
[17:59] <samd> henux, try a devel channel
[17:59] <IndyGunFreak> peacewise: brb
[17:59] <samd> henux, try asking in #ubuntu-devel
[18:00] <akidd116> how do i get a new textfile to popup directly from the terminal so i can write code from there?
[18:00] <nathan7> akidd116: nano?
[18:00] <Dvlpr> Hey, why can these errors happen after using autoreconf: configure.ac:295: the top level autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1 autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
[18:00] <grawity> nathan7: NATHANFACE
[18:00] <TBeholder> peacewise  i had the same problem, try both ALSA and OSS in setup or go into advanced properties from tray icon
[18:00] <laclasse> peacewise, if this is a laptop ... make sure your 'modem' is not disabled in Bios. also try alsamixer, set volumes, and 'alsactl store' as root. To make sure sounds works, put volume on high (hardware keys and software) and cat <somefile> /dev/dsp ... you should hear a sound
[18:00] <samd> akidd116 what editor u want to use?, try "gedit newfile.txt"
[18:01] <GreenDelta2> Slart: kthx
[18:01] <nathan7> grawity: GRAWFACE
[18:01] <akidd116> samd, im learning python and when i type python it keeps me in the terminal but that isnt really useful for writing code
[18:01] <Slart> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer | GreenDelta2, this might be useful too
[18:01] <peacewise> k thanks everyone... sound started working :D
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !editors
[18:02] <Slart> akidd116: write the python code in any favourite editor.. then run it in the terminal
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !ide
[18:02] <Slart> akidd116: the interactive python terminal isn't really used for programming
[18:02] <samd> akidd116, for python, you can write the code into a file, and run it with "python <name of file>"
[18:02] <akidd116> ah ok, thanks samd
[18:03] <rothchild> hi, can anyone help with getting the ov51x_jpeg module working? I've compiled / installed it etc (+ have it showing in the restricted drivers manager) but none of my webcam apps can see the device. Can anyone prod me in the right direction?
[18:03] <Slart> akidd116: also... give SPE a try.. Stani's python editor
[18:03] <samd> akidd116, for a development enviroment ,, a text editor made for programming, try "geany", you can install it by typing "sudo apt-get install geany"
[18:03] <samd> akidd116, you can also run python programs withing the same editor (geany)
[18:03] <rkitect> any suggestions on getting ubuntu setup to detect the cd drive during the "detect cdrom drive" phase?
[18:04] <ForZeUA> heh. multimedia buttons on dell vostro doesn't work since i updated ubuntu to 8.10. what should i do?
[18:04] <IndyGunFreak> ForZeUA: update to 9.0
[18:04] <IndyGunFreak> *9.04
[18:04] <ForZeUA> )
[18:05] <ForZeUA> maybe in few months
[18:05] <Gourlis> Ubuntu 9.04 it's a beta version ?
[18:05] <ForZeUA> it's too unstable
[18:05] <darwindarwin> lol, don't join #opendarwin.  *wow*.
[18:05] <Slart> Gourlis: nope..
[18:05] <IndyGunFreak> Gourlis: no, its final release
[18:05] <Slart> Gourlis: it was released in.. 2009.04... version 9.04...
[18:06] <peacewise> ubuntu 9.04 is stable...though not more than 8.10 :)
[18:06] <Slart> Gourlis: just like 9.10 will be released in ... 2009.10
[18:06] <IndyGunFreak> and 10.04 will be released...
[18:06] <Gourlis> Now I have 9.04, it will come again any version LTS ?
[18:06] <TBeholder> ForZeUA +1. i just updated and stuck for good
[18:06] <TBeholder> ForZeUA as to buttons, are they still assigned (in setup) or dropped? Also keyboard can be auto-defined as a wrong type which haven't any
[18:06] <IndyGunFreak> Gourlis: the next LTS version is April 2010
[18:07] <ForZeUA> when i updated from 8.04 to 8.10 (in april 2008) it was hell)
[18:07] <Gourlis> What do you suggest? It's good to be on latest ubuntu or stay on LTS until another LTS comes out ?
[18:07] <IndyGunFreak> ForZeUA: thats why you do a clean install... i never upgrade... just keep all my important crap on a big partition, make my / about 20-30gigs.. when i reinstall.. just overwrite /
[18:08] <IndyGunFreak> Gourlis: well, just using 8.04 as an example... theres been quite a few improvements between 8.0 and 9.04, and presumably will be more between 9.04 and 10.04
[18:08] <IndyGunFreak> Gourlis: unless you have an actual need to run LTS(ie, some sort of network of computers that you ahve to keep track of).. i always keep my stuff w/ the current version..
[18:09] <phantomcircuit> So my bluetooth mouse isnt working
[18:09] <jorgerosa> hi
[18:09] <ForZeUA> IndyGunFreak, i have all backups, but i hate OS reinstall's
[18:09] <mikebeecham> hi all...I've just set up 6 SMB shares on my mac, and given them all read and write privilidges.  All of the shares are accessible by me, with the exception of one folder...it is telling me that I do not have permissions to view the content....can anyone help me get this resolved?
[18:09] <rkitect> any advice on cdrom not being detected during ubuntu server isntall?
[18:09] <phantomcircuit> i installed bluez-compat and it works when i run hidd --search, but it forgets the settings eventually
[18:09] <IndyGunFreak> Gourlis: i have 2 PCs and 2 laptops, and i update them usually 2-3 days after a new release comes out.. never had a prob.
[18:09] <IndyGunFreak> ForZeUA: eh, i guess its opinion, i hate upgrading
[18:09] <Mion> rkitect: sata optical drive?
[18:10] <ForZeUA> TBeholder, it's all right, keyboard assigned well
[18:10] <Gourlis> IndyGunFreak, now I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 (Upgraded), my 3D Card drivers are dead on 9.04 but I like to be on updates hopping these problems with drivers will be solved with the next versions.
[18:10] <rkitect> ide opt
[18:10] <peacewise> can u suggest me some gud book on linux source code programming?
[18:10] <IndyGunFreak> Gourlis: whats your graphics device/
[18:10] <mireille__> jg
[18:10] <kck> lusers
[18:10] <Mion> peacewise: kernelnewbies.org
[18:11] <Gourlis> IndyGunFreak, in Vista (because I have 2 partitions) it says ATI Radeon X1250 and on Ubuntu 9.04 it says ATI Radeon RS490M X1200
[18:11] <TBeholder> Gourlis  yeah, i had to reinstall driver (ATI) to see anything too. not that it helped much.
[18:11] <Mion> peacewise: I asume you mean the linux kernel when you say linux?
[18:11] <Gourlis> TBeholder, I just not using any effects now.
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> Gourlis: eh, i have no experience w/ ATI.. but i know support for some older ATI devices was dropped
[18:11] <pi-meson> After I've started running Jaunty, occasionally it seems Alt-F4 crashes X, bringing me back to a login screen. it has now happened ~8 times, but I can't get a deterministic test case. When this happens, where's the best place to look for a debug log?
[18:11] <peacewise> yeah @ Mion
[18:12] <yaris123456789> how do you scan each file's content for a certain character ?
[18:12] <yaris123456789> say  i need to find a script with a line "apples"
[18:12] <kck> does anybody have a problem where daemins are not started on system boot but all symlinks are in the rc?.d
[18:12] <grawity> yaris123456789: grep "apples" *
[18:12] <Zapper1> test
[18:12] <Gourlis> IndyGunFreak, yeah mate most of people here told me that ATI isn't supported on 9.04 but ok by default I use ATI Open Source drivers.
[18:12] <Mion> peacewise: read the guides on kernelnewbies.org then
[18:13] <hkais> anyone here who uses successfully ubuntu 32 bit with 4 GB RAM and the nvidia prop. driver? I am trying to use the server kernel (for the 4GB) but xorg will not start until I switch back to generic kernel.
[18:13] <peacewise> guides?? @ Mion
[18:13] <Slart> hkais: I think you'll find it easier to go with 64bit
[18:13] <Cryptic_Donkey>  !ati | IndyGunFreak
[18:14] <hkais> Slart: no I tried it but I had too much troubles with my IDEs
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> Cryptic_Donkey: ?.. i don't have ATI
[18:14] <Gourlis> IndyGunFreak, on Ubuntu 8.04 my 3Dcard drivers detected by default. Do you think it's possible with next releases of Ubuntu to get work again? :]
[18:14] <peacewise> and any downloadable ebook for kernel/shell programming?
[18:14] <palomer_> how do I get itunes working in ubuntu 9.04?
[18:14] <kck> does anybody have a problem where daemins are not started on system boot but all symlinks are in the rc?.d ?
[18:14] <phantomcircuit> Gourlis, ATI provides drivers for X for graphics card series, ie there isn't a specific driver for X1250 but for the X1200 series
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> Gourlis: i honestly don't know.. i don't have a lot of experience w/ ATI.. like i said, i know support for some of the older devices was dropped
[18:14] <phantomcircuit> iirc of course
[18:14] <hkais> Slart: x64 isn't as stable as they promise
[18:15] <IndyGunFreak> palomer_: what do you want to useitunes for?.. you can't use it to sync an ipod i don't think
[18:15] <ForZeUA> hkais, and what about flash player in x64?
[18:15] <Slart> hkais: ok.. I guess I'll have to give my box a kick then.. it isn't living up to the expectations
[18:15] <rothchild> hi, can anyone help with getting the ov51x_jpeg module working? I've compiled / installed it etc (+ have it showing in the restricted drivers manager) but none of my webcam apps can see the device. Can anyone prod me in the right direction?
[18:15] <Gourlis> phantomcircuit, I don't know very much how to install drivers, so I leave ubuntu as it is :P
[18:16]  * kck o_O
[18:16] <ForZeUA> npwrapper periodically crashes
[18:16] <jamalfanaian> Hi, I just tried activating the ATI drivers using the hardware drivers app and can't boot to login. I've tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in recovery console but it's not helping at all. Could someone help me please? :(
[18:16] <peacewise> amarok.... i think can be used for ipod.... just give it a try @palomer_
[18:16] <m0> hi is there any way I can revert to chromes kernel version?
[18:16] <Gourlis> Have a nice day/night everyone!
[18:17] <daryl_> hello?
[18:17] <nathan7> Mustard?
[18:17] <kck>  does anybody have a problem where daemins are not started on system boot but all symlinks are in the rc?.d ?
[18:17] <ForZeUA> on my x64 8.10
[18:17] <nathan7> WHO NICKED MY MUSTARD?
[18:17] <m0> I accidently added debian repository to my list, and it updated kernel, now my grub is messed up.
[18:17] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian download it from ATI site, uninstall old, install new, aticonfig --initiate, reboot
[18:17] <Slart> nathan7: do you have an ubuntu question?
[18:17] <daryl_> l
[18:17] <uusedman> hello everyone
[18:18] <kck> hi
[18:18] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, how do i uninstall old from the recovery console?
[18:18] <simenkm> I have a Filserver wich runs Ubuntu 9.04. And i have an Virtual Webserver, wich runs ubuntu 8.10 from Virtualbox. I have installed Torrentflux on the webserver. i am now trying to mount up the Hardrive from the Fileserver, so that is can be accesed from the Webserver, Anyone know how i can mount up the network share on the filserver to the Webserver?
[18:18] <uusedman> got a problem on my computer at home, after i upgraded to 9.04 the screen is all messed up, tried to do normal boot and to fix the screen resolution, no cookie
[18:18] <louis> hallo
[18:18] <rkitect> any advice on cdrom not being detected during ubuntu server isntall?
[18:19] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian cd /usr/share/ati
[18:19] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[18:19] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, Thank you :)
[18:19] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian it's from ATI manual
[18:19] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, Oh! I guess that would help. I will try looking at it. Sorry.
[18:19] <hkais> ForZeUA: the flashplayer was working, but there are many other like java which didn't run smooth
[18:20] <hkais> Slart: haven't got it?
[18:20] <ForZeUA> hm java works fine
[18:20] <peacewise> someone suggest me a good downloadable ebook for Linux kernel/shell programming.... and of python.. :)
[18:20] <Slart> hkais: huh?
[18:20] <borked37> I just did a bad thing... attempted 9.04 upgrade from a ssh session... now when I boot there is no network... ifconfig returns nothing. Any advice, short of download the release CD & start over?
[18:20] <uusedman> got a problem on my computer at home, after i upgraded to 9.04 the screen is all messed up, tried to do normal boot and to fix the screen resolution, no cookie
[18:20] <Travis-42> is there any way, with compiz, to divide the screen into frames or grids like GridMove for Windows or the Ion window manager?
[18:20] <hkais> (07:15:35 PM) Slart: hkais: ok.. I guess I'll have to give my box a kick then.. it isn't living up to the expectations
[18:20] <tones> peacewise: id just play around and practice. that works for me with most things
[18:20] <mikebeecham> hello...I'm having problems accessing the content of a shared SMB folder when using my own login.  However, when I log in as root, the content is available.  Is there anyway I can set up this share to allow my normal login access?
[18:21] <Slart> hkais: ah.. I'm already running 64bit ubuntu..
[18:21] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian at any rate, catalyst 8.12 worked on 8.10, now 9.4 vs 9.04 seems to, but i caught other bug
[18:21] <Slart> hkais: but apparently I'm not getting the full experience.. mine is just boring stable =)
[18:21] <kumadam> hi all
[18:21] <kumadam> can somebody help me about udev?
[18:22] <rkitect> does the ubuntu setup pull optical drive data from the bios or does it run it's own hw check?
[18:22] <tones> kumadam: ask and find out :)
[18:22] <peacewise> play around..??? like how??@ tones
[18:22] <hkais> Slart: are you running with compiz?
[18:22] <Slart> hkais: yup
[18:22] <hkais> Slart: with proprietary driver?
[18:22] <Slart> hkais: yup
[18:22] <kumadam> i'm using ubuntu 9.04 and i have problem with airmon-ng ath0-ath01 problem
[18:23] <TBeholder> mikebeecham  by giving users you want to have access the same group you gave access to ?
[18:23] <kumadam> i read about fixes on udev
[18:23] <tones> peacewise: look at help manuals, type in random (yet sane) commands and see what they do, discover new things
[18:23] <hkais> Slart: with extra visual effects?
[18:23] <rkitect> any advice on cdrom not being detected during ubuntu server isntall?
[18:23] <kumadam> bot my udev is different
[18:23] <borked37> sigh.
[18:23] <mikebeecham> TBeholder: I have checked the permission tab of the folder, and it is telling me that the current owner is 501 - user #501
[18:24] <tones> kumadam: installing "madwifi" usually cures most problems with atheros chipsets
[18:24] <bitsbam> hey all, got a weird issue installing minimal version on a tiny single board computer. install is fine but after i make a selection in the grub menu, it shows Starting Up ..... for about 40 minutes before loading the OS
[18:24] <Slart> hkais: well.. I'm not to much into writing with fire and spinning cubes.. I've customized my effects.. I use the expose stuff and some window animations and that's about it
[18:24] <kumadam> i already installed it
[18:24] <Slart> hkais: but I have tried out the effects.. I just think they get in the way of actually.. doing stuff =)
[18:25] <TBeholder> mikebeecham  well, there's user *and* group, right?
[18:25] <kumadam> its about udev
[18:25] <bloupotlood> Hi guys, is there an offline installer for w32codecs?
[18:25] <oDesk> hello, i've upgraded to ubuntu karmic 9.10 and i want to downgrade to 9.04 how i can do ?
[18:25] <bloupotlood> i need to play .wmv files.
[18:25] <tones> kumadam: thats me out. anybody else have ideas?
[18:25] <hkais> Slart: okay I had also the effects activated und 8.10 and 9.04. The support under itrepid is much better under x64 but not as stable as with 32bit
[18:25] <mikebeecham> TBeholder: I'm not a totally clued-up linux user yet...so I'm not sure I would know how to go about assigning a group to the folder?
[18:25] <borked37> how about this... is there any way to resume an upgrade to 9.04 with no network running?
[18:25] <robert__> join #ubuntu-pl
[18:25] <grkgeek> Hello i have made firestarter start from boot, is there any way to make it stop prompting me for root password ?
[18:26] <bloupotlood> Anyone know if there is an offline installer for .MWV codecs in ubuntu?
[18:26] <Slart> hkais: what graphics card are you using?
[18:26] <TBeholder> mikebeecham  same here. if i got it at all, you're supposed to give access to some group, then enlist users in it to give them all access
[18:26] <peacewise> .rm codecs work on ubuntu?
[18:26] <peacewise> i mean on any application?
[18:26] <Travis-42> Is there any way to color manage/apply color profiles to multiple monitors?
[18:26] <rkitect> .list
[18:26] <rkitect> mt
[18:27] <bloupotlood> Anyone know if there is an offline installer for .MWV codecs in ubuntu?
[18:27] <nathan7> WMV I guess...
[18:27] <nathan7> Slart: No, just wondering of any of you stole my mustard off my sammich.
[18:27] <ForZeUA> i think i'll downgrade to x32
[18:27] <oDesk> so! how to downgrade to 9.04 ?
[18:27] <devel0>  what kind of kernel parameters can I pass to turn off the boot output completely to screen ?
[18:27] <Slart> nathan7: go ask in #ubuntu-offtopic.. not here
[18:27] <Breetai> Help! Help!, I am running hardy, I tried to compile a package that had a requriement for newer xcb stuff. I have xcb all buggered up and I can get a good x session now. Is there some easy way to get xcb back to sane settings without reinstalling?
[18:27] <hkais> Slart: nvidia
[18:28] <nathan7> Slart: Hmm.
[18:28] <benediktk> I need to confgure a postfix server to recive email from multiple domains, spam and virus check and then sedn to the approrpriate mailservers. Hints to howto's and guids woudl be appriciated.
[18:28] <Slart> hkais: I have a nvidia 8800gtx.. not sure if it makes a difference though
[18:28] <jair> jello
[18:28] <bloupotlood> What is the link to the .deb file collection again?
[18:28] <rkitect> getting "No common CD-ROM drive found" error during ubuntu install, any insight?
[18:29] <TBeholder> Breetai  can you in aptitude kick it out, then reinstall ?
[18:29] <vieq> hello all, I have two sound cards how to enable only one of them?
[18:29] <hkais> Slart: Quadro NVS 140M on my side. A mobile nvidia
[18:29] <TBeholder> Breetai  or just reinstall ? or reinstall in dpkg
[18:29] <fujimoto_> #ubtuntu-de
[18:30] <hkais> Slart: anyway i had much problems with my IDEs and also with the graphics, but the most pain came from my IDEs (Java)
[18:30] <bloupotlood> Anyone know if there is an offline installer for .MWV codecs in ubuntu?
[18:30] <Breetai> benediktk: http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-spamsnake-ubuntu-8.04
[18:30] <Slart> hkais: well.. let's hope they improve whatever it is that is causing the mess
[18:31] <vieq> guys, /proc/asound/cards shows two cards, I want to enable only one of them
[18:31] <ForZeUA> hkais, what IDE do you use?
[18:31] <hkais> ForZeUA: eclipse, Rational
[18:31] <Breetai> TBeholder: I tried looked at what packages had xcb in them that were installed and did an install --reinstall and that did not help.
[18:31] <benediktk> Breetai: thanks a bunch!
[18:31] <bloupotlood> Anyone know if there is an offline installer for .MWV codecs in ubuntu?
[18:32] <TBeholder> Breetai  i mean, just reinstall xcb from archive
[18:32] <bloupotlood> Anyone know if there is an offline installer for .wmv codecs in ubuntu?
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > bloupotlood
[18:32] <draganov> hey guys, does anyone knows where apr-config is located on ubuntu 9.04
[18:32] <draganov> ?
[18:32] <TBeholder> here's a question: if i have trouble with Metacity what can i use instead of it?
[18:33] <ForZeUA> hkais, i use eclipse with tears in my eyes
[18:33] <bloupotlood> is there a way to download sudo apt-get stuff without having to actually use ubuntu and rather use a windows machine?
[18:33] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, you could try using emerald? o.O
[18:33] <hkais> ForZeUA: why?
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> TBeholder http://xwinman.org/
[18:33] <jamalfanaian> bloupotlood, what are you referring to? using aptitude in windows?
[18:33] <Omar87> Is there a way I can upgrade my file system to ext4 without having to format the hard desk?
[18:33] <bloupotlood> i need to get the w32codecs for my ubuntu, i can only access the net via the XP installation.
[18:34] <jamalfanaian> bloupotlood, you could use ext2fs to write to your linux partition: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[18:34] <jamalfanaian> bloupotlood, there are also other tools to do so
[18:34] <bloupotlood> jamalfanaian: sort of mate, i need a .deb of w32codecs because i cant use my ubuntu for internet, only my xp box.
[18:34] <Slart> bloupotlood: check the medibuntu repository.. I think they have a webpage where you can get packages
[18:34] <bloupotlood> partition*
[18:34] <TBeholder> Jack_Sparrow  thx
[18:34] <dn4> what is a program to edit mpg video?
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[18:34] <bloupotlood> Slart: cool beans, thanks dude.
[18:35] <devel0> bloupotlood, apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras , then you will have the debs and the dependencies in /var/cache/apt/
[18:35] <Slart> bloupotlood: you can also use synaptic to generate downloading-scripts.. you can then run those on a windows machine using wget
[18:35] <_chun> Using jaunty, whenever I plug my usb HD in, I get the message "you are not privileged to mount the volume" and I have to sudo mount it. Any suggestions?
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> devel0 Isnt that in ubuntu?
[18:35] <Slart> bloupotlood: but it might not work unless the ubuntu machine has some up to date package lists..
[18:35] <ForZeUA> when i debug my code, eclipse hangs on int array with 20k elements... on 10-20 sec
[18:35] <TBeholder> bloupotlood  then it boils down to finding a repository, and downloading .deb ?
[18:35] <bloupotlood> devel0: i cant use my ubuntu online, the 3g dongle support is non existent.
[18:35] <devel0> _chun, edit /etc/fstab and add the user attribute
[18:35] <chuck_> bloupotlood, go here down load the deb package you need http://packages.medibuntu.org/
[18:35] <bloupotlood> chuck: k will do
[18:35] <Volkodav> does anybody has dual head + TV out configured with nvidia ?
[18:35] <ForZeUA> when i try to watch data)
[18:36] <devel0> can someone tell me how to turn off console output to the screen during boot ?
[18:36] <serpico> hi
[18:36] <_chun> devel0: tried that, I get "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending"
[18:36] <devel0> _chun, I fail to see the relation between fstab and dbus
[18:36] <Breetai> bloupotload: yes you can, you can search at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ locate the .debs you want and download them. Then copy them to your linux box and install them with dpkg -i . But it wont do dependancies.  You will have to go back to windows and download those on your own.
[18:36] <Volkodav> devel0 put quiet next to kernel options in grub
[18:36] <ienorand> devel0: normally usplash is supposed to show up...
[18:36] <doc_brown> im trying to get java working in the opera browser.  Will i have more luck downloading the rpm.bin?  or just the .bin (self extracting file)?
[18:37] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, Well uninstalling fglrx alone let me actually load X :) Thanks... I will try installing the newer version and see if that works now
[18:37] <Omar87> Is there a way I can upgrade my file system to ext4 without having to format the hard desk?
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bloupotlood wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/package      or whatever repo it is in
[18:37] <doc_brown> i know rpm + alien = .deb
[18:37] <MrNo> Trying to install 9.04 on an old AMD3000+ that has a Geforce3 card in it. Blinking cursor in upper left corner. Tried 64 bit, 32 bit, alternate install.. with text only, no apic no difference
[18:37] <Slart> Omar87: ext is pretty backwards compatible.. but I think you'll have to reformat if you are to use the newer features
[18:37] <doc_brown> can i work with bin files easily?
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> doc_brown Also be aware that it isnt recommended and can be hazardous to your system
[18:37] <bloupotlood> Thanks to everyone, just got my w32codecs .dev package :) wish me luck! laters.
[18:37] <Slart> doc_brown: rpm+alien= danger danger
[18:37] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian  in my case it loaded graphic login, but screwed up utterly after it
[18:37] <Slart> !alien
[18:38] <devel0> alien isnt dangerous , its just not 100% effective , could mess up your deps
[18:38] <_chun> devel0: not sure myself, but it's the message I get when I plug it in with the user attribute added to fstab
[18:38] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, oh :( that's no good
[18:38] <doc_brown> how easy is it to work with bin files on ubuntu?
[18:38] <devel0> doc_brown, define "work"
[18:38] <Slart> doc_brown: bin files? binary files? do you mean cd images (cue/bin) ?
[18:38] <Jack_Sparrow> doc_brown That would depend on the bin..  It is much better to stay within our repos
[18:39] <doc_brown> =)
[18:39] <scampbell> Is there a method to verify already installed packages simular to rpm's -V option?
[18:39] <devel0> dpkg -l
[18:39] <doc_brown> how can i get java working in the opera browser?
[18:39] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian  that was fixed after ATI driver is installed (ati-driver-installer-#-##-x86.x86_64.run from their site)
[18:39] <Mion> doc_brown: grab the latest sun java
[18:39] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, seems like it won't let me install them,.. li'm going to keep playing with it though
[18:40] <doc_brown> Mion, from the repos?
[18:40] <scampbell> dpkg -l lists the packages, am I missing some option that has it actually inspect the individual files for changes?
[18:40] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian  what it says?
[18:40] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, "X Server: unable to detect"
[18:40] <doc_brown> i guess i am confused as to where java installs.  into the OS, or into the browser?
[18:40] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, I'm researching online to see what the cause / resolution for the issue is
[18:41] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian  what X server? it supposed to be installed from recoveryt console
[18:41] <Mion> doc_brown: yes
[18:41] <Jack_Sparrow> MrNo To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F4 and select safe graphics mode then press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash use the noapic acpi=off options before the "--"
[18:41] <jamalfanaian> TBeholder, I tried from the recovery console and it gave me this error, I figured it may need X running to work so I logged in to gnome and tried, same error
[18:42] <Breetai> doc_brown:  java installs in the OS in /usr/lib/java but there is also a browser plugin. When you use a web page that has java on it, it uses the browser plugin which relies on the copy of java on the system.
[18:42] <TBeholder> jamalfanaian  weird. for me, ATI driver installer works from console
[18:42] <doc_brown> Breetai, thank you
[18:42] <Breetai> doc_brown:You can also run java programs such as limewire, or jbidwatcher directly on the OS, using the copy of java that is installed on the system
[18:42] <MrNo> Jack_Sparrow that on the x32 or the x64 bit? I tried safe graphics mode only and it failed on 64 bit
[18:43] <Breetai> doc_brown: you are welcome.
[18:43] <doc_brown> Breetai, makes perfect sense now
[18:43] <_chun> Now I'm getting "unprivileged user cannot mount ntfs block devices using the external FUSE library"
[18:43] <doc_brown> i guess i need a java plugin for opera
[18:43] <Breetai> doc_brown: installing ubuntu-restriced-extras will get it for you.
[18:43] <Jack_Sparrow> MrNo THere are many many different options to try, the one I gave works on many 32 and 64 bit systems
[18:43] <MrNo> ok thanks
[18:43] <doc_brown> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:44] <coz_> doc_brown,  isnt java enabled in opera when you installed it?
[18:44] <Breetai> doc_brown: or you need to get opera to use the current plugin. There is usually a list of plugin paths. I.E. seach /usr/lib/mozilla /usr/lib/firefox, ~/.mozilla, etc.
[18:44] <Breetai> doc_brown: or you can copy the plugin into the opera plugins folder, either the system wide one your the one in your home directory.
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> _chun sudo wil grant you permission
[18:46] <doc_brown> Breetai, /usr/lib/opera/plugins is empty
[18:46] <doc_brown> shall i download the .bin and move it into that folder?
[18:46] <_chun> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, I know, but it's annoying having to mount it manually every time I plug it in
[18:47] <icyo> Does anyone know about a software that would let me monitor a remote computer directly from my desktop (like conky for a local computer)
[18:47] <Lord_SEAKING> FUCK
[18:47] <kumadam__> hola how can i have permission to change my udev files in ubuntu 9.04
[18:47] <Titan8990> !test
[18:48] <Titan8990> !sudo | kumadam__
[18:50] <scripyy> Hii room
[18:50] <Breetai> doc_brown: locate libjavaplugin
[18:50] <scripyy> is it any kind of nice tool just like FIRESTARTER but with best and more options.. just like internet sharing, firewall, port forwarding
[18:50] <kumadam__> i try to open it in root but it says permission denied
[18:51] <kumadam__> sudo is not effecting it also
[18:51] <Volkodav> somebody has to have dual head + TV out configured with nvidia  out of 1500 + people - I wonder is it possible to have them all as separate X or at least clone second monitor and TV out ?
[18:51] <Breetai> doc_brown: then you can do a sudo -l /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[18:51] <kumadam__> volkodav: i have it
[18:51] <ForZeUA> -=
[18:51] <Volkodav> kumadam__ all 3 separate X ?
[18:51] <Volkodav> what card ?
[18:52] <fujimoto_> #ubuntu-de
[18:52] <Quoth-this-Raven> So uh, I had to reinstall ubuntu and all I had was a gutsy disc. How do I upgrade it now that the repos are down?
[18:52] <kumadam__> yes, you should use diffrent drivers for them
[18:52] <Volkodav> kumadam__ mind pasting your xorg.conf ?
[18:52] <Volkodav> what drivers ?
[18:52] <scripyy> is it any kind of tool ???
[18:52] <Volkodav> I installed nvtv - no help]
[18:52] <kumadam__> look in nvidia.com
[18:53] <MrNo> Jack_Sparrow the install is hanging at sda:
[18:53] <dylan_> guys, I am having a problem here
[18:53] <Breetai> doc_brown: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69275
[18:53] <dylan_> need help
[18:53] <Volkodav> nvidia.com is huge - remember the drivers version &
[18:53] <Quoth-this-Raven> Anyone?
[18:53] <Volkodav> kumadam__ what resolution do you run at TV-out ?
[18:53] <dylan_> I installed xubuntu 9.04, which comes with some kde 4.2 apps in /usr/bin, but since I would like old kde 3.5 apps, I had to install this package
[18:53] <grkgeek> is /etc/hosts.deny a firestarter file or iptables ?
[18:54] <akidd116> lol this indentation in python is going to make me want to kill myself
[18:54] <dylan_> which installed kde 3.5 to /opt/kde3,      now I need to set a path or something to it, not quite sure what I need to do
[18:54] <swatTX> can someone please help me. I have a presentation to do soon and I don't have any sound for some reason. where do I start, I'm kinda a noob.
[18:55] <Lord_SEAKING> niggers
[18:55] <Lord_SEAKING> !
[18:55] <TBeholder> battle of three bots. :]
[18:56] <Pici> TBeholder: I'm not a bot...
[18:56] <TBeholder> Pici two bots and air support?
[18:56] <kenthree> There's a typo on the UNR main page title, says Nebook instead of netbook
[18:57] <TBeholder> swatTX  check in setup, ALSA vs. OSS, then check proper volumes and checkboxes from tray icon's context menu
[18:57] <Pici> kenthree: you can log a bug at bugs.launchpad.net in ubuntu-website
[18:57] <Breetai> swatTX: did you ever have sound?
[18:58] <swatTX> TBeholder, where is setup at?
[18:58] <Pici> !away > cooldude[away]
[18:58] <swatTX> Breetai, yes I did but just updated after not using the laptop for a while and now sound isn't working
[18:58] <kovacsleeve> Whats a good way to quickly send a bit of text to another computer on a network (such as a URL)? Preferably something built into Ubuntu?
[18:58] <rkitect> any advice on cdrom not being detected during ubuntu server isntall?
[18:59] <TBeholder> swatTX uh, i haven't it right now. you know, in main menu, next to admin section. there's "Sound" somewhere
[18:59] <Jack_Sparrow>  rkitect There was a bug silimar to that, but I honestly dont remember much about it.
[18:59] <Ursinha-packing> Pici, I thought the problem was to send away announces, and not changing nicks
[19:00] <grawity> Ursinha-packing: Nick changes are annoying too (though much less than awaymessages)
[19:00] <BlueAidan_work> any ideas why I can't type a question mark with my microsoft ergo keyboard
[19:00] <BlueAidan_work> I can type the / fine, but if I hit shift-/ I get nothing
[19:00] <BlueAidan_work> hmm, make that right-shift-/
[19:00] <yaris123456789> hey guys i have C src. i ran ./configure && make.     where is the executable file ?
[19:01] <swatTX> TBeholder, ok I found the sound under System->Preferences->Sound... now what do i check for?
[19:01] <grkgeek> Is modifying /etc/hosts.deny enough to keep a certain ip range from any connection what so ever to my pc ?
[19:01] <Mion> grkgeek: no
[19:01] <BlueAidan_work> the right-shift key works fine with any other key, just not the / key
[19:02] <TBeholder> swatTX  there's device and system, you need to check for both ALSA and OSS whether it buzzs when you press test button
[19:02] <joaopinto> grkgeek, not really, host.deny is used by a few services, you should use iptables to block traffic from a certain IP
[19:02] <Mion> grkgeek: only works for stuff that uses (x)inetd
[19:02] <Mion> grkgeek: btw, hosts.deny should deny everything and everyone, and you should only open up for what you need in hosts.allow instead
[19:02] <TBeholder> BlueAidan_work  maybe, you have something bound to this key?
[19:02] <Mion> grkgeek: but, anyway, use iptables
[19:03] <BlueAidan_work> TBeholder: this is a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04
[19:03] <grkgeek> Is there any way to easily modify iptables without having to redo the work everytime i reboot ?
[19:03] <BlueAidan_work> just installed on Friday. I just noticed it's not working correctly
[19:03] <swatTX> TBeholder, none of the test buttons produced any sound.
[19:03] <TBeholder> BlueAidan_work is it the same in console (ctr-alt-F1) or only in X ?
[19:04] <BlueAidan_work> yes
[19:04] <BlueAidan_work> it doesn't work anywhere
[19:04] <BlueAidan_work> keyboard worked fine in XP
[19:04] <TBeholder> swatTX then check speakers, right-click sound icon in tray and search for proper control while test still runs so you would hear it
[19:04] <SuspectZero> hey there, whts the command to figure out wht version of ubuntu i have?
[19:05] <SuspectZero> i always forget it
[19:05] <pat2009> Help - im a newbie and i have 9.04 installed, everything works but my sound. all my souunds play at double speed, everything sounds like chipmunks. how do i fix this?
[19:05] <BlueAidan_work> TBeholder: the multimedia keys work
[19:06] <TBeholder> BlueAidan_work  now that's weird.
[19:06] <zhism> hi, is it possible to run the catalyst drivers on Ubuntu 9.04 with a Mobility Radeon 9700 CarD?
[19:06] <BlueAidan_work> TBeholder: xev isn't recognizing any input when I do right shift - /
[19:06] <BlueAidan_work> it recognizes left shift - /
[19:07] <BlueAidan_work> TBeholder: I mean, it recognizes r_shift but not when I hit the / key
[19:08] <sysdoc> Does anyone know of a howto that actually works with Jaunty and jack?
[19:08] <grkgeek> Mion: Is there any way to easily modify iptables without having to redo the work everytime i reboot ?
[19:08] <swatTX> TBeholder, i tried all the different devices under volume control and none produced any sound. i hit the test button and in volume control went to File->Change Device and tried Alsa, OSS, and PulseAudio, no joy.
[19:08] <TBeholder> BlueAidan_work now it's triple weird. with M$ keyboard and 9.04 it should be double weird at most.
[19:08] <Mion> grkgeek: yes, several
[19:08] <Mion> grkgeek: search the tldp for iptables
[19:08] <BlueAidan_work> TBeholder: heh
[19:09] <almost> just about to install ubuntu it says as an option install inside windows like any other applicationi am in xp now how does it do that ?
[19:09] <Slart> SuspectZero: lsb_release -a
[19:09] <grkgeek> Mion: thank you will look into it
[19:09] <mikebeecham> hi there....can anyone offer a suggestion as to why I can view content within a smb share when logged in as sudo, but otherwise I am told I dont have enough permissions?
[19:09] <TBeholder> swatTX i'm at loss. is hardware all right?
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> almost I wont suggest nor recommend using wubi to install, but if you insist, insert disk while running windows and you should get an option to install
[19:10] <uncategorized> having trouble in jaunty with iwl3945...problem seems to be here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/263541
[19:10] <uncategorized> how can I get an updated kernel? 2.6.29
[19:10] <SuspectZero> ty Slart
[19:10] <Daroron> Im setting up a webservice on my computer thats behind a router. How do i set it up so that ppl from out side can connect to it?  Is it the routing table?
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !kernel > uncategorized
[19:11] <W8TAH> i copied the entire contents of a drive using dd and gzip -- im having trouble reversing the process - can someone help point me the way
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Daroron Port forwarding perhaps
[19:11] <doc_brown> uncategorized, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+can+i+get+an+updated+kernel
[19:11] <almost> Jack_Sparrow: yes thats where I am right now
[19:11] <zeno> Hi, I was using a java app which I had to kill and now sound isnt working (alsa oss or pulse).  killilng mixer app, restarting alsa arnt helping.  cating urandom to dsp works though.  help?
[19:11] <Volkodav>  somebody has to have dual head + TV out configured with nvidia  out of 1500 + people - I wonder is it possible to have them all as separate X or at least clone second monitor and TV out ?
[19:11] <Volkodav> forums did not help much
 ill try it cheers
[19:12] <swatTX> TBeholder, I ran the hardware test and heard the login drums as it said my audio passed.
[19:13] <almost> Jack_Sparrow; IT says like any other application sounds like a dual boot situation
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> almost It does dual boot, it is not like a program inside windows.. for that you can use virtualbox
[19:13] <TBeholder> zeno  for me, restarting alsa demon (with gksu) worked
[19:14] <chuck_> Volkodav, did you check in #nvidia
[19:14] <Volkodav> not yet
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> almost My personal opinion.. Anything.. is better than wubi
[19:14] <mikebeecham> hi there....can anyone offer a suggestion as to why I can view content within a smb share when logged in as sudo, but otherwise I am told I dont have enough permissions?
[19:15] <jamalfanaian> So I just tried installing the open-source ati drivers but I can't boot
[19:15] <almost> ok well I have vmware workstation running with linux no X suppose i could also install virtual box
[19:15] <jamalfanaian> I went in recovery console and restored my old xorg.conf but it's still giving me issues :(
[19:15] <jamalfanaian> I've tried reinstalling the mesa packages and what not but still offers no help
[19:16] <rothchild> can anyone help with getting the ov51x-jpeg module working with my eyetoy webcam? I've got the driver compiled and installed but none of my apps see the device. It worked ok with the default drivers apart from in skype where i just got big pink bands through my image
[19:16] <almost> whats wubi?
[19:16] <mahsa> Hi, my drives couldn't open and this error appear:"unable to mount the volum.."..plz help me
[19:16] <chuck_> jamalfanaian, What open source driver did you try installing
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !wubi
[19:16] <Hilariousity> can anyone tell me what directory "dpkg --install" install packages?
[19:16] <jamalfanaian> well i tried the radeonhd because it said it supported my card
[19:16] <sysdoc> !jack
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> almost And contrary to what it says there, I dont feel it is safe
[19:17] <jamalfanaian> chuck_, i was installing the radeonhd drivers
[19:17] <almost> Jack_Sparrow: unsafe through personal use ? or
[19:17] <rothchild> mikebeecham: you should just try to login and be met by a username and password challenge, enter the details for the machine you are trying to log in to and hit the 'save this forever' button (works for the three machines round here anyway!)
[19:18] <sysdoc> Jack anyone?? It is kickin' me %&^...
[19:18] <Absolute01> Sometimes when I restart my machine I get a busy box error saying that the root hard drive is not found, So i need to restart a couple of times for it to work. I have tried switching from UUID notation to direct /dev/sda1 but that didnt help.
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> almost If you lose power to your PC you can lose everything including your ntfs/windows
[19:18] <Absolute01> any fixes?
[19:18] <Volkodav> chuck_ kumadam__ said he has it configured and advised to check on nvidia.com
[19:18] <TBeholder> !xorg
[19:18] <Volkodav> heh
[19:18] <mikebeecham> rothchild: this is not happening.  I have set up the share under fstab, with 5 other shares...all other shares work fine...but there is this one rogue folder that tells me I dont have permission.  However, all 6 have been set up the same
[19:18] <almost> Jack_Sparrow: notnice
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Absolute01 One suggestion, the next time it boots,   backup your system
[19:19] <Absolute01> Jack_Sparrow: ??
[19:19] <ahmad> good morning/evening/afternoon everyone
[19:19] <Jhodas> Jack_Sparrow, thats very unlikely
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> almost It even says it in the fine print in the wubi faq
[19:19] <Absolute01> I dont get this error in other distros
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Jhodas Well.. It did happen to ME
[19:19] <cas_> Hi, I created a usb boot disk using UnetBootin. It boots, but it can't seem to find the vesamenu.c32 file.
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Jhodas and it HAS happened to many others
[19:20] <chuck_> jamalfanaian, did you change your xorg.conf file after installing
[19:20] <ahmad> I am looking for an answer about hardware programming on an ubuntu box and I hope I could get any hint on how to start so far ... please
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Jhodas It has supposedly improved, but I still wont use it
[19:20] <jamalfanaian> chuck_, yes but i have since reverted that to my backup, and it still didn't fix it
[19:20] <Jhodas> Jack_Sparrow, I dont see how you would lost NTFS
[19:20] <Titan8990> ahmad, believe most driver programming is done in C
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Jhodas Then do some reading.
[19:20] <combo> my printer (HP deskjet 840c) prints but there is no ink on paper (?) can some1 knows what to do ? under WinXP everything works fine :(
[19:20] <Titan8990> ahmad, there are books on writting kernel modules
[19:21] <Jhodas> Jack_Sparrow, OK. :/ forgive me for being curious
[19:21] <ahmad> Titan8990 - so we consider this as kernel programming?
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Jhodas I fought hard for them NOT to include it
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> wubi that is
[19:21] <Pupuser402> español?
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[19:21] <stefg> !es
[19:21] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:22] <Titan8990> ahmad, yes, drivers are typically never in userspace
[19:22] <Titan8990> ahmad, there are exceptions though
[19:22] <Jhodas> Jack_Sparrow, NTFS?
[19:22] <Titan8990> ahmad, example - the fuse module allows for ntfs drivers to run in userspace
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Jhodas No, I did not want them to do include the wubi thing...
[19:23] <D`N`D> Titan8990 - I wanted to start by accessing USB ports .. when I tried to look for the /dev for a file representing the port I am interested in, I lost my way
[19:23] <Jhodas> kk
[19:23] <D`N`D> ahmad is now D`N`D .. someone owns ahmad
[19:24] <Titan8990> D`N`D, what is the end goal?
[19:24] <pegon> Question I had when I am using compiz and I am on one side of the cube...at the bottom when a window blinks I click it..how do I get it to automatically switch me to that side of the cube where that window is?
[19:24] <chuck_> jamalfanaian, do you still have the ati fglrx driver installed, and can you pastebin the xorg.conf file you had with the radeonhd driver
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> pegon /join #compiz they might know
[19:24] <D`N`D> Titan8990 - playing around and trying to get into hardware, later writing a graphics driver for an unsupported card
[19:24] <bowman_> Hi there. After upgrading to 9.04 every torrent download resets my dsl modem after a while. With 8.10 there's no problem. Any ideas ?
[19:24] <pegon> okay thanks
[19:25] <W8TAH> i copied the entire contents of a drive using dd and gzip -- im having trouble reversing the process - can someone help point me the way
[19:25] <rothchild> mikebeecham: sorry I'm no expert, my hacky option would be to create a new folder copy the contents in to it and try setting up sharing on it again! (inelegant I know but it may save you bashing your head against something obvious that's become invisible to you ;-))
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> bowman_ I have a similar issue, it turned out to be AT&T dsl issue
[19:25] <Titan8990> D`N`D, that is a rather difficult thing to break in to
[19:25] <Titan8990> D`N`D, a major reason being that most companies do not want you to know how their code interacts with their drivers
[19:25] <bowman_> jack_Sparrow but why with 9.04 only ?
[19:26] <Titan8990> D`N`D, linux has many of the exceptions and I am unsure in which direction to point you in
[19:26] <D`N`D> Titan8990 - there must be a point to start with
[19:26] <Titan8990> D`N`D, possibly look at the code for the ohci_hcd module
[19:26] <Titan8990> D`N`D, that is the kernel module that handles USB
[19:26] <jamalfanaian> chuck_, well i can't pastebin because i'm on the recovery console (or at least i don't know how) but i followed exactly what https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonHD said for the xorg.conf
[19:26] <jamalfanaian> which was adding the driver and busid params to the driver section
[19:26] <Titan8990> jamalfanaian, install wgetpaste
[19:26] <jamalfanaian> my busid was PCI:2:0:0 instead of 1:0:0
[19:27] <Titan8990> jamalfanaian, MYCOMMAND | wgetpaste
[19:27] <D`N`D> ok, let me log that
[19:27] <stavrosLinux> does 9.04 has a problem with the intel graphics driver ? I read a couple of blogs about it
[19:27] <Titan8990> jamalfanaian, that will send it to pastebin for you
[19:27] <jamalfanaian> Titan8990, Thanks :)
[19:27] <jamalfanaian> Titan8990, didn't know such tool existed
[19:27] <TBeholder> how to downgrade 9.04 back with minimum loss? except "copy entire disk somewhere"?
[19:28] <Titan8990> jamalfanaian, there are actually a couple different ones but that is the one I am familiar with
[19:28] <Slart> !downgrade | TBeholder
[19:28] <TBeholder> fine with me, it's already half-broken. =)
[19:28] <cas_> anyone here that can help me with a usb boot disk ?
[19:29] <jamalfanaian> Gosh the vesa drivers don't even work :(
[19:29] <D`N`D> guess I need to reboot the machine
[19:29] <TBeholder> i mean can  i manipulate packgages or something to roll back a step?
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> jamalfanaian sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list         is another example of how to do that
[19:29] <D`N`D> wow, 43 bug fixes
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> TBeholder That is what backups are for
[19:30] <sebsebseb> D`N`D: that would depend on what you have installed, what  security updates you get
[19:30] <D`N`D> Titan8990 - sorry to re-ask, if I am interested in the programming side of linux, which channel is the proper one to discuss such thing?
[19:30] <TBeholder> Jack_Sparrow  yeah,i suppose i'll have to do it hard way...
[19:30] <Slart> TBeholder: I guess you might, perhaps, possibly, one in a thousand chance, be able to uninstall the newer package and reinstall the older one.. but I think you'll be better off reinstalling completely
[19:30] <akidd116> how do i uninstall my current version of python so i can downgrade it?
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> akidd116 You can have multiple versions
[19:31] <whileimhere> Hi Anyone know of how to configure privoxy and tor for firefox? I just dont seem to get it right.
[19:31] <Titan8990> D`N`D, uhh I would have to say ##linux
[19:31] <kdc1956> How do I setup a 3D card on here
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta run, please play nice..
[19:31] <D`N`D> sebsebseb - not sure so far, I just fired the download and my machine is not stable now
[19:31] <Titan8990> D`N`D, but also there are kernel dev IRCs and language specific ones
[19:31] <akidd116> well, i have python 3.0.1 but it seems to not like to play nice and id like to use 2.6.2
[19:31] <ellis> hello
[19:31] <Titan8990> akidd116, just curious, was that actually available in ubuntu or did you manually install it?
[19:32] <sebsebseb> D`N`D: ok I don't know what your issue is even, since  I only joined here a little while ago
[19:32] <sebsebseb> ellis: hi
[19:32] <akidd116> titan8990: im pretty sure i manually installed it
[19:32] <sebsebseb> kdc1956: first of all  install your graphics card driver if there is one availalbe
[19:32] <sebsebseb> kdc1956: system > administration > hardware drivers
[19:32] <Titan8990> akidd116, ehh... you should do a little homework on that, 3.0 destroyed backwards compatibility
[19:32] <kdc1956> ok thanks
[19:32] <D`N`D> sebsebseb - it's ok, I just came for dev questions and Titan gave me great help, thanks to all of you
[19:33] <Titan8990> akidd116, regardless of what their mission statment about backwards compatibility says
[19:33] <sebsebseb> D`N`D: ah ok
[19:33] <D`N`D> so I have to part now, and will re-join tomorrow  ... thanks all
[19:33] <akidd116> titan8990: well, my main problem seems to be that the python-tk i have is not compatible with what i have...or something like that
[19:34] <Titan8990> akidd116, everything is likely not compatible... they even went as far as to change the print statement from: print 'hello world'   to:  print('hello world')
[19:35] <tyler_d> need help to configure initramfs to boot from my primary drive /dev/sda1 as well to recognize my dmadm raid 5 setup on 3 drives, after config and boot I only get to (initramfs) prompt, and cannot continue?
[19:35] <grawity> Titan8990: in py2.6 you can from __future__ import the new print() function, so it _kind of_ works.
[19:36] <Adrenalin> Hi, I'm writing in ubuntu "man fread" and get the result "No manual entry for fread", any ideea in witch packaged normaly all standart library docs should be in ?
[19:37] <Jhodas> bye room
[19:37] <TBeholder> Jack_Sparrow  if i installed kubuntu packgage and chose KDE, it uses Kwin instead of Metacity, right?
[19:37] <TBeholder> then if the issue persists where that bug should be? right in xorg?
[19:39] <TBeholder> Slart if i installed kubuntu packgage and chose KDE, it uses Kwin instead of Metacity, right?
[19:39] <TBeholder> then if the issue persists where that bug should be? right in xorg?
[19:39] <yaris123456789> what is the maximum # of files ext3 filesytem can support in a single dir ?
[19:41] <kumadam> !sudo
[19:41] <kumadam> !udev
[19:41] <ienorand> I'm using soundconverter to try to convert ogg to wav, importing an ogg file gives me "No packages with the requested plugins found -- The requested plugins are: Ogg demuxer" What to do?
[19:41] <melter> does anyone know why imagemagick isn't seeing truetype fonts in 9.04? this worked in 8.04
[19:41] <Slart> TBeholder: I'm not to familiar with KDE and what it uses behind the scenes.. sorry
[19:42] <Slart> yaris123456789: check the wikipedia page for file system comparisons
[19:42] <ienorand> Using gmusicbrowser or rhapsody I'm fully capable of playing the very same ogg file
[19:42] <kumadam> is there anybody knows about how can i save the changes on 70-persistant-net.rules
[19:43] <mikebeecham> hi there....can anyone offer a suggestion as to why I can view content within a smb share when logged in as sudo, but otherwise I am told I dont have enough permissions?
[19:43] <Slart> kumadam: just save the file?
[19:43] <kumadam> slart i made changes but i cant save
[19:43] <Piet> yaris123456789: i think wikipedia has this info. they have a file system comparison
[19:43] <Piet> kumadam: save the file
[19:43] <kumadam> its not saving
[19:43] <kumadam> it says no permission
[19:44] <yacc> Ok, so where does one log bugs against the distribution kernel?
[19:44] <Slart> mikebeecham: a wild guess.. samba sends the current username when you try to access a share, perhaps the root user has permissions to read it and your regular user hasn't
[19:44] <Slart> kumadam: then start the editor using gksudo, then you'll be able to save
[19:44] <yeimi> hola a todos
[19:44] <yaris123456789> hmmm: so if each file is 50kb. it supports 40 million files
[19:44] <yaris123456789> this will do
[19:45] <mikebeecham> Slart: just to throw a spanner in the works:  I have created 6 shares all exactly the same.  The other 5 are fine, but this one is as described...any further ideas...or how do I assign permissions to my login?
[19:45] <sebsebseb> !es |  yeimi
[19:45] <kumadam> Slart: can u give me the code pls?
[19:45] <Slart> yacc: launchpad?
[19:45] <Slart> kumadam: "gksudo gedit /path/to/your/file"
[19:45] <yacc> Slart, yeah, but where on launchpad ;)
[19:45] <yacc> Slart, got it ;)
[19:45] <yeimi> alguien  me puede ayudar con skype
[19:45] <Piet> kumadam: you need to edit the fiel with sudo
[19:46] <deserteagle> hello all
[19:46] <ao25> can someone give us a few tip pls for gnome...I have vers 2.16 and want to make it look a little more up to date if possible?
[19:46] <cuddlefish> !english|yeimi
[19:46] <Slart> mikebeecham: uhm.. permissions are set in the smb.conf file.. I think
[19:46] <akidd116> how do i move a program from one workspace to the other?
[19:46] <Slart> yacc: isn't there a kernel package?
[19:46] <Piet> yacc: same place you would file all other bugs against the distribution
[19:46] <yacc> Slart, well, dlocate will tell me that.
[19:46] <Slart> akidd116: drag the window? or.. are you using compiz?
[19:46] <deserteagle> does anyone know how to configure the X server on a headless system to where VNC connections will have a bigger resolution?
[19:46] <cuddlefish> akidd116: right click o the meni bar, there's an option in there.
[19:46] <kmkz> This should be an easy one, how can I ssh run a program and leave it running after I exit the terminal? Probably should use "screen" for that... syntax ?
[19:47] <yacc> Piet, yeah, but that I do usually with something like apport, ...
[19:47] <Slart> deserteagle: set the max and min frequencies in the xorg.conf file.. and setup a few resolutions.. I think the reason it defaults to 800x600 is because it doesn't find a monitor to interrogate for valid frequencies
[19:48] <cuddlefish> kmkz: does & after the command do that
[19:48] <kmkz> cuddlefish: nope...tried that
[19:48] <Slart> cuddlefish: it will be killed when you exit the terminal, afaik
[19:48] <lolo> can someone tell me how to use grep/sed/whatever to return the string in between the string --->"t": "<--- and --->",<---
[19:48] <yacc> Piet, and admittingly I haven't found that many bugs irritating enough to file something, ...
[19:49] <yacc> Piet, but an unusable system is irritating enough ;)
[19:49] <mikebeecham> Slart: yeah...looking through it now and nothing is immediately obvious to me
[19:49] <lolo> if   "t": "bob", was the string how do i get get bob?
[19:49] <Pici> lolo: #bash would be a better channel to ask this in.
[19:49] <OrEvA> what should i do if I have file system error in ubuntu?
[19:50] <Mion> lolo: use cut
[19:50] <Mion> :/
[19:50] <Slart> mikebeecham: what about permissions for the actual folders that are shared?
[19:50] <yeimi> hola a todos
[19:50] <Titan8990> OrEvA, try running fsck from a live cd
[19:50] <aldaek> did you run ubuntu version of a chkdsk?
[19:50] <Slart> OrEvA: use fsck ?
[19:50] <aldaek> thats it... fsck
[19:50] <cuddlefish> !english > yeimi
[19:50] <aldaek> file system check
[19:51] <yacc> My 2.6.28-11-generic does not survive even a minute of burnK7 before it shutdowns :(
[19:51] <Piet> yacc: are you saying you see some (only) non-critical kernel warnings/oopses/bugs but your system is unstable/unusable?
[19:52] <Slart> yacc: is it just that kernel? it works with the older kernel?
[19:52] <yacc> Piet, well, with 2.6.28-11 (but not the older ones), my laptop has the tendency to overheat. Often.
[19:52] <mikebeecham> Slart: all folders are sitting on my mac and have been given read and write permissions for everyone
[19:52] <ienorand> I'm using soundconverter to try to convert ogg to wav, importing an ogg file gives me "No packages with the requested plugins found -- The requested plugins are: Ogg demuxer" What to do? Using gmusicbrowser or rhapsody I'm fully capable of playing the very same ogg file
[19:52] <Piet> yacc: then i would think that maybe one of these warnings/oopses/bugs can actually be critical, and you should still report it.
[19:52] <semanticpc> are there any tools to sync my files on my remote linux machine and my PC ??
[19:52] <yacc> Slart, I did write a script and tried it out with two 2.6.27 kernels which where able to survive two instances of burnK7 for a couple of minutes without any troubles.
[19:53] <aldaek> semanticpc, other than ftp?
[19:53] <yacc> Piet, no oops.
[19:53] <semanticpc> yea .....
[19:53] <yacc> Piet, just a kernel that for whatever reason does not keep the CPU cool.
[19:53] <Slart> mikebeecham: then I'm out of ideas.. you could try making samba print some debug info.. see if you can see what happens when you try connecting.. or do the same on the server side.. see if it tells you why access is denied for that one folder
[19:53] <aldaek> my mind keeps going to dropbox... not sure of license, but free.. let me check to see if they have a linux build
[19:53] <yacc> Piet, the shutdown is "correct", as in the correct thing to do with a CPU going near 100° C
[19:54] <yacc> Piet, the difference is that the older kernels survived the same (more or less) workload without going critical.
[19:54] <aldaek> Free for Windows, Mac, and Linux
[19:54] <deserteagle> does anyone know how to configure the X server on a headless system to where VNC connections will have a bigger resolution?
[19:55] <semanticpc> aldaek: ill chk tht thanx
[19:55] <yeimi> HOLA A TODOS
[19:55] <Piet> yacc: did you look into a better fan controller and power saving features?
[19:55] <aldaek> semanticpc:  you are very welcome. :) Like i said, not sure of the license.
[19:56] <yacc> Piet, the hardware is fine. The older kernels survive burnK7 fine.
[19:56] <OrEvA> what should i do if i have file system error?
[19:56] <yacc> Piet, so logically it's a bug in the new kernel package ;(
[19:56] <semanticpc> aldaek: the basic edition is free
[19:57] <aldaek> OrEvA: try a "fsck" from a live cd/dvd.
[19:57] <yacc> Piet, and yes, I'm currently running at 800MHz/powersave locked in, so that I can use the laptop at all.
[19:57] <yacc> Piet, but somehow castrating the hardware so that it can run somehow is not the point.
[19:57] <yeimi> ALGUIN HABLA ESPAÑOL O FRANCES
[19:57] <Piet> yacc: the old fancontrol sucks remarkably
[19:57] <Pici> !es | yeimi
[19:57] <Pici> !fr > yeimi
[19:58] <yacc> Piet, well, in my experience the new one seems to suck => the old kernels, and Intrepid have run stable without issues for months.
[19:58] <Piet> yacc: is this a thinkpad by chance?
[19:58] <Piet> yacc: not really, no
[19:58] <aldaek> wow... dropbox is gpl licensed
[19:58] <johnP> I need to print just one page out of a pdf doc. Page 11 of 28. My printer setup does not give me the options to select a single page. I am using the default printer drivers that come with Ubuntu and Document Viewer. How can i fix this?
[19:58] <yeimi> Y COMO AGO ES QUE SOY NUEVO EN ESTO
[19:58] <semanticpc> ohh aldaek here the server space is provided by them .... but i actually i have my remote server too
[19:58] <OrEvA> aldaek:fsck fails to do any thing
[19:58] <yacc> Piet, HP 2050tx (AMD dualcore tablet convertible)
[19:58] <yeimi> PORFA UN POCO DE AYUDA
[19:58] <aldaek> do you have any hard drive diagnostic utilities then?
[19:59] <Slart> johnP: I'm surprised it isn't configurable in the print dialog.. but you can use some command line tools to extract the page you want and save it to a new file.. then print that
[19:59] <yacc> Piet, it's certainly possible that in some abstract way the new fancontrol is "better", but it's certainly not better at keeping my laptop running ;)
[19:59] <OrEvA> aldaek: i dont know....like what
[20:00] <yacc> johnP, which PDF reader?
[20:00] <johnP> Slart; i have no idea what commands to use to do that.. but first.. is there another way to accessthe printers dialog?.. im just going to print setup from the File menu..
[20:00] <heff> when  connect my usb hdd external drive it doesnt show on my desktop...how do I fix that ?
[20:01] <aldaek> heff: mount it
[20:01] <Slart> johnP: that's the only one I know of
[20:01] <heff> how do I do that ?
[20:01] <johnP> I am using Document Viewer to view the PDF
[20:01] <Slart> johnP: or rather.. press file, print.. you should get a new dialog
[20:01] <Slart> johnP: the print setup thingy is just for selecting what printer to use and such
[20:02] <johnP> I see.. i need the options for the print setup.. such as print preview and such
[20:03] <johnP> perhaps its a limitation of the Document Viewer and i need a better pdf viewer?
[20:03] <Piet> yacc: :) apparently not.
[20:03] <Slart> johnP: what happens if you select, File -> Print  .. you don't get a dialog window where you can select, All pages, Current page, etc
[20:03] <Slart> johnP: print preview isn't available in the document viewer
[20:04] <yacc> Piet, well, usually I can appreciate design beauty, clean code and all these other attributes of a good solution. Anytime. Well anytime but times where my personal hardware acts up ;)
[20:05] <Slart> johnP: or wait.. I have a "Print preview" button at the bottom of the print dialog.. pretty useless though, it just opens another window that looks exactly the same =)
[20:05] <johnP> Oh yeah.. your right.. i get optiions then.. DOH!.. i guess i overlooked that.
[20:05] <johnP> sorry.
[20:05] <Piet> yacc: i was just looking for some improved fan controlling daemon a freind of mine made, but can't find it right now, apparently it's not online yet. anyway, how about hacking your own dynamic fix for now, using cron and lm-sensors?
[20:05] <johnP> i think i can do what i need to do from here.. the dialog that comes up with Print
[20:06] <Piet> yacc: i agree that's a bad workaround for an apparent kernel or other software bug
[20:06] <Piet> yacc: well you have not said this, yet, but i guess you would
[20:06] <iScor> hi
[20:06] <yacc> Piet, not sure if I can control the fan => anyway, for the time being I'll survive by either getting the nvidia module working on the older kernels, or by locking the box to 800MHz manually.
[20:06] <deserteagle> how do i change the resolution on an X server when I dont have a monitor plugged?
[20:06] <iScor> could someone help me with ubuntu? im on the live cd to test it
[20:06] <Piet> yacc: it would surely be better if you could file a bug report and try to find out if it's really the kernel causing it or some ther software you upgraded, too
[20:07] <yacc> Piet, no other software.
[20:07] <tdn> I have just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my girlfriends laptop. During install I created a user for me 'tdn'. When the install finished, I created an admin user for her 'hhc'. When I use it, it regularly pops up with security updates. But when she uses it, it does not. How do I fix this? I have checked today that there are several updates. Why is she not notified?
[20:07] <Piet> yacc: so debugging becomes much easier already, please file a bug report.
[20:08] <yacc> Piet, I took an hour off, booting all kinds of kernels and trying to burn them. 2.6.28-11 does not survive even 60 secs, while the older kernels all managed without any troubles for a couple of minutes.
[20:08] <soulfreshner> tdn - does she belong to the admin group?
[20:08] <yacc> Piet: I'm just filing it.
[20:09] <johnP> O.k. Crown me Idiot of the day.  it worked fine, thanks Slart!
[20:09] <yacc> Piet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/378065 <= for all to see.
[20:09] <yacc> And now it's dinner time :)
[20:10] <Piet> yacc: thanks
[20:10] <tomas_> hey, which option in php config disables warnings?
[20:11] <soulfreshner> tomas_ - errorlevel?
[20:11] <tdn> soulfreshner, yes.
[20:12] <wff> Hello.  I'm having some trouble using userdir in httpd.conf.  I followed these instructions: http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/apache-modules-ubuntu-configuration-2.html.  However, when I restart my server and go to http://localost/~myuser, I get a beloved 403 Forbidden error.
[20:12] <JosefAssad> anyone tell me what I need to do to get cgi working? I have the cgi-bin showing but when I try to run a cgi in it, firefox tries to download the fil
[20:12] <tomas_> soulfreshner: thanks
[20:12] <soulfreshner> np :)
[20:12] <abhilash> i did openoffice presentaion slide,its too slow when i begin and it gets struck, whats alternative??please help
[20:12] <ker2x> hi ! is this page still up-to-date ? http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/ibm/db2
[20:12] <yacc> JosefAssad, then your Apache is not recognizing it as an executable, ...
[20:13] <ker2x> i should download the 7.10 ?
[20:13] <abhilash> when i start slideshow, it just hangs
[20:13] <Ademan> hey yacc, I missed you on #python-xlib I'm not really an expert but maybe I could help you if you wanna get back in there
[20:13] <tomas_> tomas@fugu:~$ grep errorlevel /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[20:13] <tomas_> nothing
[20:13] <Pici> ker2x: 7.10 is no longer supported.
[20:13] <bullgard4> Does 'pavumeter --record' show volume on a linear or on a logarithmic scale?
[20:13] <ker2x> Pici: but the page tell to DL the 7.10 for DB2 : http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/ibm/db2
[20:13] <ker2x> that's why i'm confused :)
[20:14] <Slart> ker2x, Pici: that's weird.. why not use the LTS version for those things..
[20:15] <bullgard4> Zeigt 'pavumeter --record' die Lautstärke auf einer linearen  oder  einer logarithmischen Skala an?
[20:15] <LordKenTheGreat> Hello, how do I make a proper debian/ubuntu package?
[20:15] <JosefAssad> yacc: alright. Is that something in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[20:15] <LordKenTheGreat> There's no good documentation on the internet.
[20:16] <ker2x> latest DB2-C is 9.5.2 ... and probably have the same software requirement ...
[20:16] <Pici> ker2x: I suggest that you either take a look at the forum linked from that page or contact Canonical directly about it
[20:17] <JosefAssad> hm, module cgid already enabled
[20:17] <th0r> LordKenTheGreat: you're right...no info at all on the net - http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2683&ei=ELQRSrnPI5SEtwej_8T-Bw&rct=j&q=how+to+create+a+.deb+package&usg=AFQjCNHmmvvU_kWqrzq9Upja-Dua7Ad1iQ
[20:17] <ker2x> oh, online forum. i didn't saw it. thx :)
[20:17] <josem> hiii
[20:17] <ker2x> (mmm, it's a link to IBM's forum :/ )
[20:17] <LordKenTheGreat> Sorry, I just loaded that now...
[20:17] <ker2x> well, thx for your help :)
[20:17] <josem> i need help
[20:18] <chemikalz> what with
[20:18] <sbasuita> LordKenTheGreat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[20:19] <djones> LordKenTheGreat: also look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekJaunty/UbuntuDev
[20:19] <LittleJ> hy
[20:19] <LittleJ> can any one help me with guake ?
[20:20] <LittleJ> i have some problems with version from synaptic, and i canot build guake 4.0 from source...
[20:20] <Ademan> LittleJ: what's the issue with the original package?
[20:20] <LittleJ> Ademan: some fonts problem
[20:20] <LittleJ> actualy its a bug in version from synaptic
[20:20] <LittleJ> let me give u the link
[20:20] <Ademan> LittleJ: a documented bug?
[20:21] <tdn> soulfreshner, uid=1001(hhc) gid=1001(hhc) groups=1001(hhc),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(fuse),109(lpadmin),115(netdev),117(admin),122(sambashare)
[20:21] <Ademan> LittleJ: if it's already a documented bug and you wanted to build it from source, I can try and help you with that
[20:21] <epiro> hi all :D
[20:21] <LittleJ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guake/+bug/373863
[20:21] <LittleJ> yea
[20:21] <mgmuscari> any recommendations for a good media player with media library/collection support? i'm trying amarok2, but frankly the lack of configuration options is frustrating, as well as the lack of gapless playback
[20:21] <LittleJ> its a documented bug
[20:21] <Ademan> LittleJ: alright, then what's your issue with building it from source
[20:21] <Ademan> ?
[20:22] <mgmuscari> i'd like to try xmms2 but i can't figure out which of the many gui clients to try
[20:22] <epiro> does anybody know how I can make my webcam work on homepages? ex. blogtv.com !?
[20:22] <aldaek> OrEvA and I have a question about marking bad blocks so the fs does not use them. How do we do this?
[20:22] <LittleJ> well i have prroblems with gtk+-2.0
[20:22] <Ramon> Hi people!
[20:23] <Ademan> LittleJ: sure, is it saying you don't have it? you need the libgtk2.0-dev package (that may not be the exact-exact name)
[20:23] <deany> mgmuscari, I use xmms1 but I quite liked exaile when I used it.
[20:23] <Ramon> How can i do to see a dvd video in the iso file format?
[20:23] <mgmuscari> deany: been a while since i tried xmms1... does it have good support for media library searching?
[20:23] <LittleJ> i have it instaled ademan
[20:23] <LittleJ> thats exactly the problem...
[20:23] <epiro> Ramon - can't you download it?
[20:23] <deany> mgmuscari,  no media library, just a standard play which is what I want.  try exaile.
[20:23] <mgmuscari> deany: i've been using winamp on this computer for the longest time, but i finally became too fed up with windows and just wiped it
[20:24] <LittleJ> and yea its exactly the same name
[20:24] <Ademan> LittleJ: can you make a paste of your error output at http://www.rafb.net/paste  ?
[20:24] <chemikalz> try apt-get "program name"
[20:24] <deany> mgmuscari,  xmms is more like winamp than exaile is.
[20:24] <LittleJ> sure just a second
[20:24] <Ademan> or rather, just your entire output
[20:24] <epiro> does anybody know how I can make my webcam work on homepages? ex. blogtv.com !?
[20:24] <aldaek> dont forget the sudo in front
[20:24] <epiro> what does sudo mean?
[20:24] <deany> mgmuscari,   but no library
[20:24] <chemikalz> ah yes
[20:24] <mgmuscari> deany: yeah, i'm looking for something that's similar to winamp 5 rather than winamp 2
[20:24] <chemikalz> sudo
[20:24] <epiro> everything's like sudo, lol
[20:24] <aldaek> switch user do
[20:24] <chemikalz> sudo means it will just work
[20:24] <aldaek> lol
[20:24] <chemikalz> with ur hardware
[20:24] <chemikalz> etc
[20:24] <epiro> chemikalz hahhahahah
[20:24] <chemikalz> idk its magic
[20:24] <FloodBot3> chemikalz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <deany> mgmuscari, I dont know if winamp would work under wine
[20:25] <Ramon> epiro, i had download it and it is a <name-of-film>.iso, how can i to mount it on a virtual drive and see it within xine??
[20:25] <mgmuscari> deany: i already tried it... the ui doesn't work too well
[20:25] <deany> mgmuscari, I love winamp, the only thing i miss from windows.
[20:25] <LittleJ> Ademan: http://rafb.net/p/xbTG4M24.html
[20:25] <mgmuscari> deany: agreed
[20:25] <chemikalz> im runnin rythmbox, its got built in last.fm sweet i like it
[20:25] <wff> Has anyone been successful using userdir in apache2?
[20:25] <epiro> Ramon - doesn't it say what program you need to download automatically when you run it?
[20:25] <Ademan> deany: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5
[20:26] <epiro> people, this is the problem with ubuntu and linux...ITS NOT USER FRIENDLY...like windows! ;D
[20:26] <epiro> ;)
[20:26] <chemikalz> after u mess with it a bit it is
[20:26] <chemikalz> i havent touched my vista boot
[20:26] <chemikalz> since i installed
[20:26] <chemikalz> ubuntu a few days ago
[20:26] <Ramon> epiro, i have th iso image of the film, and i want to see it without mastering it but directly from the iso image. How cn i do it???
[20:26] <epiro> and also, there is not real support as they promise it would be... ;)
[20:27] <scampbell> Please don't feed the trolls.
[20:27] <epiro> Ramon - I don't know!
[20:27] <LittleJ> so ademan i checked again and i confirm i have latest package of libgtk2.0-dev
[20:27] <epiro> Ramon - I am new to Ubuntu...
[20:27] <Ramon> ok, o don't tell me things u don't know about.
[20:27] <SLKC> Hello all :)
[20:27] <Str1ke> Seeing as Ubuntu is an african word, maybe someone here can help me with my query. When I was younger I lived in South Africa, and my mother used to tell me about some of the black south africans that believed that there was a monster that lived under their beds, and that some of them would raise their beds up on stacks of bricks so that the little monsters could not reach them. Unfortunately, I cannot remember what this devilish little creature was called.
[20:27] <FloridaGuy> ? isent xorg supose to have mouse and keyboard and   ( monitor name a resalution ) and i have screen set at 1280 x 1024...if i restart pc..it goes back to 1024 x 768
[20:27] <Slart> Ramon: just mount it to a folder somewhere and open that folder in your favourite video player
[20:27] <Slart> !mountiso | Ramon
[20:27] <Ademan> LittleJ: alright, do you have python-gtk2 and if so try installing python-gtk2-dev
[20:28] <epiro> Ramon - Instead of complaining to me, you should be thankfull that I am trying to help you! :)
[20:28] <chemikalz> lol str1ke
[20:28] <Slart> !ot | Str1ke
[20:28] <Mion> Str1ke: it's named "epiro"
[20:28] <FloridaGuy> http://pastebin.com/m2a857a86
[20:28] <LittleJ> Ademan:  u'r the man :) worked like a charm :)
[20:29] <Ademan> LittleJ: awesome, glad to hear it
[20:29] <TBeholder> !mountntfs
[20:29] <LittleJ> didnt tought bout that :)
[20:29] <TBeholder> !ntfs
[20:29] <Ramon> I'm helpfull when i make a question and a person answer it correctly. as Slart did. Fill the channel of unuseful words isnt help. Thats all.
[20:29] <LittleJ> thanks a lot mate :) bye bye
[20:29] <epiro> Strlke - It was called: "Mion" !
[20:29] <TBeholder> !fuse
[20:29] <Str1ke> Mion: thanks, now I know what to google
[20:29] <Ramon> Thank sslart.
[20:29] <chemikalz> anyone know how to make steam work through wine
[20:30] <Str1ke> oh wait...that was a joke
[20:30] <Str1ke> d'oh
[20:30] <chemikalz> do i really have to reinstall wine
[20:30] <chemikalz> first
[20:30] <Slart> Ramon: you're welcome
[20:30] <Slart> !who | chemikalz
[20:30] <epiro> does anybody know how I can make my webcam work on homepages? ex. blogtv.com !?
[20:30] <Mion> chemikalz: dual-booting is much better
[20:30] <chemikalz> i can dual boot
[20:30] <chemikalz> i just like ubuntu :)
[20:30] <Eloff> I have a uri to a .deb package, how can I install it on my ubuntu box?
[20:30] <Slart> epiro: that would depend entirely on how those webpages are constructed..
[20:30] <mgmuscari> hm
[20:31] <mgmuscari> well
[20:31] <Ademan> Eloff: if you have a gui just download the package with firefox or something, then you can double click on it once you've downloaded it
[20:31] <Eloff> Thanks ademan
[20:31] <Slart> Eloff: I'm not sure if you can feed a uri to apt-get.. you might have to download the package first.. then install it with gdebi or something like that
[20:31] <Ademan> Eloff: alternatively you can use wget to download the package and use sudo dpkg -i <package>    to actually install it
[20:31] <mgmuscari> deany: winamp lite actually does work fine under wine. winamp full has problems drawing the gui
[20:31] <daedhel_> Eloff, dowload it somewhere, then CD to that somewhere, then "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"
[20:31] <ElectricHeavyLan> Anyone have experience using either 'puredata' or 'Csound' for audio synthesis? ChucK just will not work on this machine or some reason and there's no IRC channel...etc...Ubunutu *does* have packages for other though.
[20:32] <LordKenTheGreat> How do I build the package if make only builds one binary in the same working directory?
[20:32] <ana> oi
[20:32] <epiro> Slart - It's blogtv.com ! I can run my webcam on cheese, but it doesn't recognized on blogtv.com ! should it recognize?
[20:32] <Ademan> LordKenTheGreat: what package?
[20:32] <cara> Has anyone been able to use their HDMI port (Nvidia) under ubuntu?
[20:32] <ana> oi di
[20:32] <daedhel_> LordKenTheGreat, are u sure there is no deb for your app
[20:32] <deany> mgmuscari, ill stick to xmms, super lite and winamp presets are perfect, which is my main need...they dont seem to import very well in other programs.  Audacious gives out high pitched scratchy noise with them, otherwise i`d use that.
[20:32] <Str1ke> To all new ubuntu-users in the channel - welcome! You've made the right decision :)
[20:32] <chemikalz> im going to try csound
[20:32] <LordKenTheGreat> WiiTCPload.
[20:32] <chemikalz> i used pro tools on mac
[20:32] <epiro> cara - no, not me...
[20:32] <ElectricHeavyLan> ...mainly wondering which might be more "mature" I guess.
[20:32] <Slart> epiro: I doubt it.. it sounds like some proprietary windows thing..
[20:32] <grendian> tcpdump -w tcpdump.log gives me packet data.. how to i get it to dump the output it shows to a log file.. only success i have had is tcpdump > tcpdump.log, but this doesn't actually dump to the log until i kill the command. anyone know tcpdump? better place to ask?
[20:33] <cara> WTF? did they break it?
[20:33] <ana> oi di
[20:33] <mgmuscari> deany: yeah, there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to use winamp lite over xmms :)
[20:33] <epiro> Slart - Yeah... :/
[20:33] <ana> oi
[20:33] <mgmuscari> deany: one thing that i definitely miss so far is gapless playback on mp3's
[20:33] <ana> quenhe
[20:33] <LordKenTheGreat> I've checked for an existing deb.
[20:33] <ana> vc
[20:33] <Slart> grendian: why not try wireshare or one  of the other guis out there?
[20:33] <Ademan> ElectricHeavyLan: I haven't the slightest clue but why not go with the one with the package and then if you find you don't like it try the other one?
[20:33] <ana> oi
[20:33] <LordKenTheGreat> And the version I have (SVN) is the only one that works.
[20:33] <epiro> Slart - but there is a way to fake it, like all other windows monopoly programs
[20:33] <eseven73> Slart, wireshark*
[20:33] <Slart> !br | ana
[20:33] <deany> mgmuscari, I dont like players that have big windows like amarok/exaile.. Just used to having a winamp like player in corner of screen all the time.
[20:34] <Slart> grendian: sorry.. wireshark
[20:34] <nmvictor> chemikalz: nice to hear that,wish every other person dealing with kerspersky and its ignorance to system files in an attempt to scrape of viruse wakes up to the beuaty of linux some day
[20:34] <Slart> eseven73: thanks =)
[20:34] <grendian> @slart i'm not using a gui
[20:34] <ElectricHeavyLan> Ademan: true...might as well.
[20:34] <ana> oi
[20:34] <LordKenTheGreat> I'm not going to give up with packaging this...
[20:34] <enterneo> prudent idea to wipe / and /home for ext4 now, (is grub stable enough to work itself with ext4?)
[20:34] <Eloff_> these wobbly windows things in ubuntu Jaunty, is there any way to turn off how they "stick" to the sides and resist dragging?
[20:34]  * grawity waves at LordKenTheGreat
[20:34] <chemikalz> nvmvictor:   :)
[20:34] <mgmuscari> deany: yeah, i don't like to give up screen real estate either. i pretty much just use this PC as a media center though, and my library has about 27,000 songs in it, so i need something with good media library support
[20:34] <Slart> grendian: there are ncurses guis too.. .. I've never used just plain tcpdump
[20:34]  * LordKenTheGreat waves back at grawity.
[20:35] <Ademan> ElectricHeavyLan: yeah, unfortunately I can't be any more useful than that lol
[20:35] <chemikalz> eloff ur runnin  juanty?
[20:35] <chemikalz> lol
[20:35] <Slart> !ccsm | Eloff_
[20:35] <Eloff_> thanks
[20:35] <ana> oi dyelle
[20:35] <Ademan> LordKenTheGreat: you're hell bent on creating a package rather than just make-installing it? (I understand that, I *hate* doing things outside of dpkg/apt)   if that's the case you might check out #ubuntu-motu  they package things all day long there, they'd know what's what
[20:35] <Slart> Eloff_: install that, then go to system, preferences, Compizconfig-settings-manager, find the plugin for snapping windows or similar.. disable it
[20:35] <ana> oi
[20:35] <grendian> well, thanks
[20:36] <Slart> ana: /join #ubuntu-br
[20:36] <Eloff_> chemikalz? why is it amusing that I'm running Jaunty?
[20:36] <Slart> ana: this channel is english only
[20:36] <kingmanic12> Hello, I have a little graphics driver problem.  I recently updated 8.10 to the latest kernel and installed Nvidia Glx 180 drivers.  I removed and purged all old graphics files and it comes up with this error on start-up.   " EE Failed to load Module "Type 1" (Module does not exist, 0)
[20:36] <LordKenTheGreat> Ademan: I make-ed it, but there's no install option.
[20:36] <chemikalz> idk i read about it today on digg
[20:36] <Eloff_> thanks Slart
[20:36] <gtl> how do I install a x86 .deb package on ubuntu x86_64
[20:36] <LordKenTheGreat> Thanks Ademan.
[20:36] <chemikalz> said it was the most likley flavor to make windows users use
[20:36] <kingmanic12> I am running GeForce 7300SE as well so the 180 is compatible.
[20:36] <chemikalz> linux
[20:37] <enterneo> I have a Core2Duo Notebook, suggestions on whether to install ubuntu 64b or 32b?
[20:37] <chemikalz> is it sweet?, whats different between jaunty and regular stable ubuntu release?
[20:37] <Slart> gtl: you can use dpkg to disable the arcchitecture checking.. man dpkg for info on how to do it
[20:37] <ana> fd
[20:37] <epiro> i just bought a new webcam today, they old webcam forget it that it would work!
[20:37] <Slart> gtl: but it's always better to use a 64bit package
[20:37] <Ademan> LordKenTheGreat: no problem.  also though, if it's just a single binary without any shared objects and such, you could just sudo mv the_binary /usr/local/bin  which is where things go when they weren't installed via apt
[20:37] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: later programs in  the non LTS's
[20:37] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: later versions of
[20:37] <Slart> !br | ana, last chance.. english only in here
[20:37] <eseven73> chemikalz, Jaunty is stable
[20:37] <LordKenTheGreat> Ademan: I'm just making the deb to help others.
[20:38] <chemikalz> should i check it out if i already set up my os over the past few days
[20:38] <chemikalz> how i want it
[20:38] <ryanakca> I have radvd running on my router, why isn't my Ubuntu laptop picking up an IPv6 address?
[20:38] <chemikalz> ima read about it
[20:38] <Ademan> LordKenTheGreat: that's awesome! yeah #ubuntu-motu is definitely the place to be then, good luck and thanks for the contribution
[20:38] <Shortguy109> does anyone know why www.deezer.com doesn't load up for me properly?
[20:38] <gtl> Slart: kk, ty. I don't have the x64 package, though
[20:38] <TBeholder> chemikalz ...just a bit buggy yet
[20:38] <ana> oi dyelle
[20:39] <mgmuscari> deany: thanks for the help, i'm going to give exaile a try and see if it meets my requirements.
[20:39] <mgmuscari> bye
[20:39] <epiro> bye mgmuscari
[20:39] <nmvictor> mgmuscari: youd also try gxine
[20:39] <chemikalz> can i like update or switch to jauntey without reformatting or reinstalling?
[20:39] <Slart> chemikalz: yes.. you can upgrade to jaunty
[20:40] <Slart> !upgrade | chemikalz
[20:40] <nmvictor> chemikalz:yea,through update maneger
[20:40] <chemikalz> slart sudo apt-get juanty?
[20:40] <chemikalz> :DDD
[20:40] <TBeholder> chemikalz there's some option in aptitude. i just did it. :(
[20:40] <Carstairs> Can anyone tell me how to set up a roaming ip address please
[20:40] <Slart> chemikalz: hehe.. read the info on the webpage ubottu told you about
[20:40] <chemikalz> TBeholder:  why sad face dont like jaunty?
[20:40] <chemikalz> thanks slart
[20:41] <TBeholder> chemikalz  freakin' thing runs perfect right to the point when it shows desktop and mouse cursor. =)))
[20:41] <m0r0n> Hey anyone willing to try to help me?
[20:41] <chemikalz> hmm
[20:41] <chemikalz> maybe ill hold off then
[20:41] <Slart> m0r0n: what is your problem?
[20:42] <epiro> jaunty is good :D it's more user friendly...like vista! :D
[20:42] <nmvictor> m0r0n: whats the problem
[20:42] <epiro> :D
[20:42] <deany> vista!??
[20:42] <epiro> deany - yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:42] <papito> I cant enable graphic effects on ubuntu 9 and my laptop LG-E500
[20:42] <chemikalz> dont scare me into not getting jaunty
[20:42] <chemikalz> by saying its like vista
[20:42]  * deany does sudo rm -rf /
[20:42] <Slart> !ot
[20:42] <enterneo> I have a Core2Duo Notebook, suggestions on whether to install ubuntu 64b or 32b?
[20:42] <TBeholder> chemikalz  i'll kick some configs around, of course. also, here was  some user with sound problems. on the other hand i just talked in ICQ witth pal who stuffed it into laptop and all works like swiss clockwork
[20:42] <mphill> papito: do you have an intel video card
[20:42] <Slart> enterneo: how much memory do you have?
[20:43] <JosefAssad> anyone recommend an open source search engine? People I know have a homerolled CMS that needs search capability
[20:43] <sebsebseb> deany: I  think that's the command that dosan't just work, but you shoudn't be giving out such commands here if  they work or don't
[20:43] <Ademan> chemikalz: i'd scare you into not using jaunty because alot of people have been having issues with it... I personally have only had minor issues, but some people have had some pretty major stuff
[20:43] <papito> mphill, how do I know that ?
[20:43] <epiro> chemikalz - yeah, regular people need user friendly operating systems...everybody aren't computer nerds like ut! ;D
[20:43] <chemikalz> im runnin ubuntu stable on my dualcore with 4gb ram 32bit ubuntu though
[20:43] <Carstairs> help with roaming ip?
[20:43] <papito> mphill, i think is intel, ..
[20:43] <epiro> us
[20:43] <chemikalz> epiro i mean i already set everything up, i just got back into linux
[20:43] <ana> oi
[20:43] <mphill> papito: a regression issue with intel chips on 9.04 prevent 3d effects from working
[20:43] <Myrtti> ana: how can we help you today?
[20:43] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: good boot
[20:43] <tdn> I have just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my girlfriends laptop. During install I created a user for me 'tdn'. When the install finished, I created an admin user for her 'hhc'. When I use it, it regularly pops up with security updates. But when she uses it, it does not. How do I fix this? I have checked today that there are several updates. Why is she not notified?
[20:44] <jamesstilwell3rd> Anyone know where I can find the ubuntu equivalent of madwifi-source in debian?
[20:44] <nmvictor> epiro: did you just compare vista to jaunty,you even said that vista is user friendly,hey you are placing jaunty on the wrong scale.Vista sucks!!!!
[20:44] <epiro> chemikalz - yeah! windows sucks...it's just mind control of the population, but it's good cause it's user friendly!
[20:44] <papito> mphill :D
[20:44] <papito> :(
[20:44] <kraut> system freeze the second time today
[20:44] <kraut> \o/
[20:44] <Slart> !ot | nmvictor, epiro
[20:44] <Myrtti> chemikalz, epiro, nmvictor: take the offtopic somewhere else, please
[20:44] <chemikalz> its only user-friendly if you do stuff like ms word
[20:44] <chemikalz> lol
[20:44] <ana> oi papito
[20:44] <chemikalz> sorry Myrtti
[20:45] <grawity> nmvictor: Vista may be Microsoft, it may be commercialware, it may be whatever you want, but admit it, it's regaining awesomeness. (You can't compare Windows and Unix directly anyway)
[20:45] <m0r0n> I installed Ubuntu on my E and Vista in on my C, I hit install Ubuntu on my E when it asked how much space to use I hit use all. My music is in that drive, and when I go back into Vista I cannot see that drive even existing and I can't access my music. I'd like to either uninstall Ubuntu
[20:45] <Slart> thanks Myrtti
[20:45] <m0r0n> or make it so I can access my music from both Ubuntu and Vista
[20:45] <nmvictor>  tdn:looks like shes got no permissions to install packages or updates
[20:45] <chemikalz> moron think u wiped ur drive
[20:45] <m0r0n> Great..
[20:45] <enterneo> Slart, 2GB
[20:46] <TBeholder> chemikalz  well, i suppose in two weeks more or so all the worst will be quick patched. it's just a question of reliability - don't install too big and new stuff into critical systems, other than that it's fair game
[20:46] <Carstairs> help with roaming ip anyone??
[20:46] <chemikalz> i can access my windows music
[20:46] <chemikalz> right away
[20:46] <Ademan> tdn: is she in the admin group?  you may also need to ensure the Update Notifier daemon is running at login for her    the command I have is 'update-notifier --startup-delay=60'  You should find your entry though in system->preferences->startup applications  it should be named 'Update Notifier' and the command can be seen by selecting it and hitting the 'edit' button
[20:46] <chemikalz> cuz i was careful with partitions
[20:46] <Slart> m0r0n: I didn't think the ubuntu installer just destroyed existing partitions.. but it sounds like that might be what happened
[20:46] <chemikalz> when i started installing
[20:46] <Slart> enterneo: then go with 32bit
[20:46] <Slart> enterneo: 64 bit isn't any faster and the 32bit version has more users so it's a bit better tested
[20:47] <epiro> ubottu - ok, please help me then...how can i get my webcam working when on vista i just need to plug it in and enjoy it while here i have to hang for 3 days before I MAYBE can make it work?!?
[20:47] <chemikalz> thats why i went with 32
[20:47] <Slart> enterneo: when you get a new computer with more than 4 GB memory you should install the 64 bit version
[20:47] <chemikalz> reads urp to 3.5 gb of my of my ram anywhow
[20:47] <Owner_> how can i install a new kernel in jaunty?
[20:47] <TBeholder> m0r0n  just keep all shared stuff on NTFS and mount it in Linux. where's problem?
[20:47] <wff> Hello.  I'm having some trouble using userdir in httpd.conf.  I followed these instructions: http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/apache-modules-ubuntu-configuration-2.html.  However, when I restart my server and go to http://localost/~myuser, I get a beloved 403 Forbidden error.
[20:47] <chemikalz> he wrote install over all
[20:47] <Slart> chemikalz: mm.. you lose some to device mapping and such
[20:47] <m0r0n> Shared stuff?
[20:47] <TBeholder> !ntfs | moron
[20:47] <aditya> hey all
[20:48] <TBeholder> !ntfs | m0r0n
[20:48] <Carstairs> moron windows wont read a linux disc but linux will read a windows disc
[20:48] <Ademan> Owner_: eh, what are you trying to do? building your own kernel *isn't* supported in here if I'm not mistaken, why do you need a new one?
[20:48] <Borttrollad> Hi , anyone knows how i can remove all panels in ubuntu and only have gnome do as a dock?
[20:48] <TBeholder> m0r0n  look that link. linux can see NTFS without much issues
[20:48] <Slart> m0r0n: there are some drivers for reading ext2/3 partitions in windows.. but I would go with ntfs for a shared space
[20:49] <TBeholder> !fuse | m0r0n
[20:49] <Owner_> Ademan: No I have no clue how to build one, i just want to install a new one -- to learn
[20:49] <Slart> Borttrollad: I'm not entirely sure on this but I have this vague memory of gnome needing to have at least one panel for some reason
[20:49] <Ademan> Borttrollad: you can right click on a panel and hit "delete this panel" and remove it, or you could prevent the gnome-panel process from starting when you login (system->preferences->startup applications)
[20:49] <semanticpc> does rsync transfer the whole folder even if only a small change was made ??
[20:49] <Slart> semanticpc: afaik that it doesn't is one of it's major features
[20:49] <Borttrollad> thx
[20:50] <Carstairs> Help woth raoming ip anyone?
[20:50] <TBeholder> m0r0n  right now i have NWN in home directory, symlinked right into windows partition. everything ran just fine
[20:50] <tdn> Ademan, yes, she is. And I have not changed anything about start up programs.
[20:50] <Slart> semanticpc: it should only transfer the parts that were changed.. plus some overhead of course
[20:50] <Ademan> tdn: she may be lacking that update notifier daemon though, it's worth looking into that
[20:50] <tdn> Ademan, how do I check the update-notifier from command line?
[20:50] <tdn> Ademan, I have only ssh access
[20:50] <Slart> Carstairs: what do you mean by roaming ip? wifi?
[20:50] <Ademan> !kernel | Owner_
[20:51] <semanticpc> Slart: okay .... because it was taking a lot of time after the initial sync .... thts y
[20:51] <chatman> hi
[20:51] <Ademan> tdn: ew, erm hold on, it probably is going to require the gconf command which i'm unfamiliar with
[20:51] <eheitner> Hi-- is there a queue or a protocol for asking for help?
[20:51] <tdn> Ademan,
[20:51] <ryanakca> How do I get IPv6 working in NetworkManager ? I have my router advertising (radvd), but my laptop doesn't seem to pick it up....
[20:51] <tdn> Ademan, ok
[20:51] <Lenin_Cat> someone was snooping on my SSH agent, I killed it, but now what
[20:51] <erUSUL> !ask | eheitner
[20:51] <Carstairs> slart. No i am connected hard into hub
[20:51] <Slart> semanticpc: it might take a while to figure out what has changed.. but it shouldn't be transferring much during that time
[20:51] <semanticpc> okay thanx
[20:51] <TBeholder> Owner_  just say which of new bugs caught ye. ;)
[20:51] <Ramon> SOLVED, hey people, problem solved..... just tipe file sudo mount -t sudo mount -t iso9660  <film-name>.iso /media/cdrom -o loop......and it work!!!!! only pperhaps in VLC, but works very good......
[20:52] <chemikalz> im updating, but dont see jauntey in my update manager
[20:52] <Slart> eheitner: just ask... include lots of details (type !details for help on that)
[20:52] <Slart> chemikalz: you might have to change a setting in.. software sources, I think
[20:52] <chemikalz> ty
[20:52] <Slart> chemikalz: you can select wether it offers to upgrade to LTS versions, all versions or not at all
[20:52] <Owner_> TBeholder: Nah nothing as such, I just need it for my final year engineering project :P
[20:52] <Ramon> yaaaaaaaaaaaaahooooooooooooooooooo and no fuck program installed to mount !!!!!!!!!!
[20:52] <nmvictor> chemikalz: reload by clicking Check
[20:53] <Slart> !language | Ramon
[20:53] <m0r0n> Ok just to clarify, my music and linux are on drive E, whereas Vista and all those other programs are in another dive (C D F --Partitions)
[20:53] <Eloff_> Slart: thanks, fixed the sticky windows thing, it was exactly as you described
[20:53] <TBeholder> Owner_  You won The Jaunty Lottery!
[20:53] <Ramon> sorry people, and sorry for you ubottu... i'm happy!!!!
[20:53] <Carstairs> moron move your music to windows drive
[20:53] <m0r0n> How? I can't even see the hard drive
[20:53] <Owner_> TBeholder: umm.... :p
[20:53] <m0r0n> I'm on Windows right now
[20:53] <Slart> Eloff_: good.. I always disable that one myself so I've been there a few times myself =)
[20:54] <m0r0n> When I go to My Computer, it's non-existant
[20:54] <Carstairs> moron linux should find your windows drive
[20:54] <Ramon> another puzzle bit goes in place.... windows is very very far now...
[20:54] <eheitner> I'm trying to transfer some files from my ipod--.tiff and .gif files. I can open them on my roommate's Mac, but on my Ubuntu machine it tells me there is insufficient memory to open them with imageviewer (these files are 1 or 2 MB). Other .tiffs that are already on my harddrive open just fine. GIMP hangs when I try to open these files with them. I am occasionally getting an indexing error dialog box that doesn't seem to do anything.
[20:54] <Carstairs> moron do it from linux not windows
[20:54] <TBeholder> m0r0n  see where? you have to mount it. read manual, look into /dev to see how it's called and go on
[20:54] <Ramon> Ok, good bye people!
[20:54] <Owner_> TBeholder: I hate jaunty, it upgraded my amarok and it cant play files now - it disabled my virtualbox - liked intrepid better - and anyways i rarely use ext4
[20:55] <Eloff_> I installed my .deb package, anybody know where I find it now? (I'm used to getting an icon in the start menu)
[20:55] <TBeholder> Owner_ heh. it broke my *windowmanager*.
[20:55] <Eloff_> cd /usr
[20:55] <Eloff_> sorry
[20:55] <m0r0n> I tried looking in my E drive in Linux for my music but I couldn't find it, has it been deleted?
[20:55] <Slart> Eloff_: what did you install?
[20:55] <epiro> m0r0n - hahahahah...i can't see the files either...it doesn't seem to have a c drive
[20:55] <chemikalz> lol i updated, and all my music is missing now..lol
[20:55] <ninjafury> Guys, google couldn't help. Tried installing midori 0.1.6 from a .deb file on my Jaunty AMD64, and apt gives me this error: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.6.13)". Can anyone help?
[20:56] <Eloff_> wingide, development ide for python
[20:56] <chemikalz> brb restarting
[20:56] <Slart> m0r0n: try starting the gnome partition editor.. it should be in system, administration
[20:56] <Owner_> TBeholder: Oh well I just wish ubuntu could simply cut the 6 month release date and simply follow a better release
[20:56] <Slart> m0r0n: see if you can find your ntfs drive there
[20:56] <epiro> m0r0n - it's totally stupid this shit...it has officially got world record in being difficult to use...
[20:56] <erUSUL> ninjafury: there is a ppa for midory that works quite well
[20:56] <erUSUL> !ppa | ninjafury
[20:56] <Slart> Eloff_: try running this in a terminal "sudo updatedb; locate wingide"
[20:56] <julian__> anyone know of any  video conversion program that has multi core support
[20:57] <Carstairs> moron you just put a new hard drive in your machine?
[20:57] <TBeholder> Eloff_  where it was targetted to. there was some option to look into .deb or if you did it with aptitude GUI it shows where files go, so you can make new launcher
[20:57] <Slart> Eloff_: it might take a minute or so (the updatedb thing looks through all your files and builds an index.. locate searches that index)
[20:57] <Owner_> The only reason I like using linux is xchat is free here -- in windows its shareware!!!
[20:57] <ninjafury> erUSUL, I downloaded the .deb file from launchpad, and still get this error
[20:57] <Slart> julian__: I think there was a build of mencoder that did multi core.. not sure if it's in by default
[20:57] <Eloff_> thanks Slart got a bunch of hits on it now, I should be able to figure it out from here
[20:57] <Slart> Owner_: there are free versions of xchat for windows too.. you just have to search a bit
[20:57] <Eloff_> I tried locate wing earlier, but I guess it was that updatedb that did the trick?
[20:58] <erUSUL> ninjafury: well the problem is tht you need other pdependencies from the same repositorie
[20:58] <julian__> well im using Devede right now on a quad core machine. but it only utilizes 40 percent of the processor
[20:58] <soulfreshner> Owner_, Xchat is free from silverex
[20:58] <Slart> Eloff_: you could also try typing wing and press <TAB>.. if there is a program that starts with wing it will autocomplete for you
[20:58] <Slart> Eloff_: correct.. updatedb updates the index thingy
[20:58] <Eloff_> Owner_: it's free in windows too, if you compile it yourself or find it online compiled by someone else (that's what I did)
[20:59] <Ademan> tdn: unfortuantely it's gonna be a bit longer, the gconf key I want isn't making itself immediately obvious
[20:59] <chemikalz> tim to see if music is there?
[20:59] <Eloff_> Slart: thanks again
[20:59] <Carstairs> moron have you recently added a new hard drive?
[20:59] <TBeholder> Owner_  technically, MirandaIM under wine is free too. ;)
[20:59] <Slart> julian__: mm.. devede is more bling bling than raw power... but it's very easy to use.. something that mencoder can't really be accused of
[20:59] <Slart> Eloff_: you're welcome
[20:59] <soulfreshner> Owner_, http://www.silverex.org/news/
[20:59] <ninjafury> erUSUL, also the version of midori in synaptic is out of date. So PPA is the way to go. How would I resolve the dependancy?
[20:59] <ralmar> Hey guys Im having a really weird problem with Ekiga Softphone (voip application). Everytime I open it up and start a call the network resource monitor in the system monitor says that i start uploading like crazy (550+ KB/s), when I only have roughly 30 KB/s (max connection upload speed). And during this time of massive upload, my call does not get disconnected in the sense that the time keeps on running, but i lose audio on the call, it actually does stop a
[20:59] <ralmar> nd if i open firefox i cant go to any website, not even google.com will load. However when I close ekiga, the crazy uploading stops and i can browse the web again. What could this be? Thanks
[20:59] <erUSUL> ninjafury: there is no need to resolve them if you add the ppa repo and you install midori you are set u
[21:00] <tdn> Ademan, ok.
[21:00] <Owner_> Slart, TBeholder, soulfreshner: Glad for the advice -- looking into it :)
[21:00] <eheitner> .tiff and .gif files from my ipod won't open-- i get "not enough memory" despite being able to open much bigger files already on my harddrive
[21:00] <julian__> I see. I mean devede is in fact really easy to use and it creates the iso file reading for burning. just wish the conversion went a bit faster
[21:01] <Carstairs> eheitner I think itunes changes the files so ipod can read them
[21:01] <Slart> julian__: what version of devede are you using?
[21:01] <Owner_> lol  --- its called Y chat hahaa
[21:01] <Slart> julian__: in mine I have a "use optimization for multi core cpus"
[21:01] <The_Jag> Hi all, has anyone a W5Fm Asus Laptop?
[21:01] <Carstairs> still need help with roaming ip folks
[21:01] <julian__> im using 3.12. I also do use that option
[21:02] <eheitner> carstairs- I don't use itunes, I use rythmbox to manage the music files on my ipod
[21:02] <caraewilton> Hi guys, can you help with an install glitch?
[21:02] <Slart> julian__: ah.. perhaps it isn't computing power that is limiting the process.. might be i/o limited
[21:02] <Jhodas> itunes is a resource hog, its insanely heave for  a music player
[21:02] <schambers> i have installed xubuntu 9.04 on my lenovo w500 laptop. i get audio controls, everything is unmuted, but no sound
[21:02] <Carstairs> eheitner sorry can't help then mate
[21:03] <julian__> Yea. Im looking at the support site and apparently in uses mencoder
[21:04] <tommacco> schambers: are you using gnome?
[21:04] <tommacco> schambers: i was having trouble with audio myself, specifically with alsa.  I switched over to OSS and everything works fine
[21:05] <schambers> i am using xfce
[21:05] <schambers> and xubuntu
[21:05] <Jhodas> tommacco, schambers I've had trouble with alsa since 7.04
[21:05] <d1gital> my screen resolution won't go back after an X restart.  didnt change any configs, wasnt doing anything driver-related, etc.  nvidia-xconfig seems to run fine but does not help. nvidia-settings says i'm not using nvidia driver.  nvidia enabled in restricted drivers manager.  any advice?
[21:06] <Kallestark> Hey, I have a problem with connecting to internet trough a router. Anyone think they can help me? I'm using ubuntu 7.04 i think
[21:06] <erUSUL> !details | Kallestark
[21:06] <tommacco> schambers: okay, i'm not sure about a specific utility to switch from alsa to oss besides the gnome sound options, i've been removed from linux for far too many years
[21:06] <schambers> Jhodas: how can i switch?
[21:07] <schambers> hmm
[21:07] <lstarnes> Kallestark: check the output of lsb_release -d
[21:07] <tommacco> Jhodas: I was running alsa just fine in 8.10, upgrade to 9.04 and only OSS would work
[21:07] <MaiuZ> irc://irc.ogamenet.net:6667/#ikariam.it
[21:07] <Jhodas> tommacco, maybe its just my hardware
[21:07] <schambers> oh
[21:07] <Jhodas> schambers, give me a moment
[21:07] <schambers> is it a dropdown
[21:07] <schambers> i see alsa mixer
[21:07] <tommacco> Jhodas: it's probably mine as well (-:
[21:07] <schambers> and OSS Mixer
[21:07] <schambers> Hermosa
[21:07] <Kallestark> Ehm, i'm new to ubuntu. I don't know anything
[21:08] <wff> Hello.  I'm having trouble using userdir with apache2.  I followed directions on the site http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/apache-modules-ubuntu-configuration-2.html.  However, I get a beloved 403 Forbidden error when I go to http://localhost/~[my_user_name].  Any ideas?
[21:09] <ninjafury> erUSUL, after adding the ppa to my repo and trying to install midori through synaptic, i get "Depends: libwebkit-1.0-2 (>=1.1.6) but it is not installable" Can I fix this?
[21:09] <mib_e9oxiy3s> Hey, it's m0r0n again, I'm on Ubuntu through a CD, mind guiding me how to find my music
[21:10] <usuario_> vvvv
[21:10] <alpery764> update-manager notified about xorg-server-intel package update. I did th update and now my computer is freezing randomly.. it's so annoying. how can i go back to previous version of that package
[21:10] <erUSUL> ninjafury: :| never had that problem... did you added the correct lines for your ubuntu version?
[21:10] <usuario_> hola
[21:10] <erUSUL> !es | usuario_
[21:10] <unikon> to those that have helped me in the past few days with my ubuntu setup,,, I thank you
[21:10] <ninjafury> erUSUL, yes, the default ppa was for karmic, i changed it to jaunty. Is there something else I should have done?
[21:11] <usuario_> hi
[21:11] <ubuntu> hey
[21:11] <erUSUL> ninjafury: no; it should just have worked (tm)...
[21:11] <erUSUL> ninjafury: works here (althought im still in 8.10)
[21:12] <chazco> Hi... is it possible to feed key presses into a script (e.g. y,n,3,y into install.sh)
[21:12] <Jhodas> schambers, can't remember off the top of my head but I think there's a thread about that issue on the forums somewhere. Sorry I couldnt help more.
[21:12] <erUSUL> !info expect | chazco
[21:12] <Slart> chemikalz: there is a "yes" and "no" command.. or you could just use pipes
[21:13] <Slart> chemikalz: sorry.. wrong nick
[21:13] <ninjafury> erUSUL, so it seems libwebkit is causing the problem. If I manually install libwebkit, would it fix the dependancy?
[21:13] <Slart> hmm.. expect.. sounds like fun.. I'll have to take a look
[21:13] <erUSUL> ninjafury: maybe you can try that..
[21:13] <chazco> Thanks erUSUL, will use that if i cant find a more script friendly way (i have a recovery script for ubuntu, and one of my drivers comes as another shell script)
[21:14] <d1gital> my screen resolution won't go back after an X restart.  didnt change any configs, wasnt doing anything driver-related, etc.  nvidia-xconfig seems to run fine but does not help. nvidia-settings says i'm not using nvidia driver.  nvidia enabled in restricted drivers manager.  any advice?
[21:14] <Ademan> tdn: you can try 'sudo cp /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop /home/${herusername}/.config/autostart/'  although I'm not positive that will work, since her session manager *should* be checking /etc/xdg/autostart anyways...
[21:14] <scott__> fuck I got banned cause tor was still running:S, anyone have an idea how I can get unbanned?
[21:14] <erUSUL> chazco: i take that --> echo "string\n" (and variations) do not work
[21:15] <erUSUL> !language | AmnesiaUK go to #ubuntu-ops
[21:15] <Slart> AmnesiaUK: you could start by not using that kind of language
[21:15] <chazco> erUSUL - Not had any luck so far
[21:15] <nmvictor> whats the command to lock the screen?
[21:15] <Ademan> Slart beat me to it heh
[21:15] <AmnesiaUK> mkay:P
[21:15] <Slart> Ademan: and erusul beat us both =)
[21:15] <erUSUL> Ademan: no i beat you both ;P
[21:15] <AmnesiaUK> Could anyone tell me what I can compare X with as in windows
[21:16] <AmnesiaUK> can X be compared with explorer?
[21:16]  * erUSUL ^_^
[21:16] <Slart> AmnesiaUK: no.. nautilus would be the explorer equivalent
[21:16] <coz_> AmnesiaUK,  X with NT
[21:16] <AmnesiaUK> yeah...
[21:16] <Slart> AmnesiaUK: X is.. well.. not sure what the windows system is actually called
[21:16] <AmnesiaUK> with what can it be compared, cause than I can get a better idea what X actually is
[21:16] <coz_> AmnesiaUK,  thats the comparison  x is to linux as NT is to windows
[21:17] <lstarnes> AmnesiaUK: it's basically the display server
[21:17] <coz_> I believe
[21:17] <Slart> AmnesiaUK: have a look at the wikipedia page for X.org or just X.. it's pretty good
[21:17] <Slart> AmnesiaUK: they have pages for "desktop enviroment" "window manager" etc too
[21:17] <erUSUL> Ademan: maybe gdi gdi+ in windows up to XP in Vista they changed it to avalon or something equally "cool" named
[21:17] <lstarnes> AmnesiaUK: it can draw simple windows, but window managers like compiz and metavity actually manage the windows and decorate them
[21:17] <lstarnes> *metacity
[21:17] <AmnesiaUK> okay..,
[21:18] <AmnesiaUK> so there isnt a name for the windows "X variant"?
[21:18] <Abed> hey guys i have a strange issue with ubuntu, i 've just plugged in the headphones into my laptop but i get sound from both the headphones and the main speakers
[21:18] <Ademan> erUSUL: eh? tab completion gone awry?
[21:18] <Pici> AmnesiaUK: No. But ##window might have a better answer than that.
[21:18] <lstarnes> AmnesiaUK: windows doesn't use X or anything like it.  almost everything is in explorer or the windows kernel
[21:18] <erUSUL> Ademan: probably XD
[21:18] <TBeholder> AmnesiaUK as to win vs. *nix - no direct equivalent, the very point is that things are interfaced, not integrated
[21:18] <Slart> AmnesiaUK: not that I know of.. it's all included in "Windows"
[21:18] <Pici> !windows
[21:18] <lstarnes> AmnesiaUK: vista does have dwm as well
[21:18] <ninjafury> erUSUL, which version of midori are you using on your system?
[21:18] <redrebel> anyone here uses thunderbird??
[21:18] <erUSUL> AmnesiaUK: maybe gdi gdi+ in windows up to XP in Vista they changed it to avalon or something equally "cool" named
[21:18] <AmnesiaUK> okay:)
[21:19] <pellefrank> WIch TV reciver should i use? One that are compatible with linux
[21:19] <Slart> redrebel: yup..
[21:19] <erUSUL> ninjafury: 0..1.5
[21:19] <Slart> redrebel: try typing !anyone for some bot information
[21:19] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, lstarnes, Slart  okay thanks:)
[21:20] <redrebel> on my ubuntu thunderbird often seems to hang for a few seconds when I use it
[21:20] <jf> If I increase volume on PCM and Front above 75 it kills the audio. The higher the setting the sooner it will kill it. When it's gone, I can make a "terminal-beep" and it comes back...
[21:20] <jf> weird audio problem or what?
[21:20] <Guest43790> Hi guys, I don't know if this is the right channel, but I need some help on getting applications in ubuntu read greek filenames. Any idea?
[21:20] <redrebel> i when i move the window, it takes a while to redraw
[21:21] <Slart> redrebel: I haven't had any such problems using thunderbird.. firefox does it sometimes though
[21:21] <LjL> Guest43790: the channel is ok but you might try asking in #ubuntu-gr too if you speak greek, they're likely to know more about this specific topic
[21:21] <erUSUL> Guest43790: doesn't it do it by default ?
[21:21] <tdn> Ademan, I will not just overwrite things. I would like to check if it is already set first. Also, I would like to know WHY she does not get the updates, when I have created her user as admin.
[21:22] <redrebel> I think it might be due to the fact that i have thousands of emails
[21:22] <mad3linux> !search chaves
[21:22] <system404> god its taken me ages but finally got ubuntu installed on my dell vostro 1510 on it ryt now every distro i had to hand didnt work downloaded 9.04 and bam everything worked all my hardware everything my bluetooth my wifi bam all worked out the box fantastic love it
[21:22] <bubba> any server support?
[21:23] <Ademan> tdn: it won't be overwriting anything, unless there's already a update-notifier.desktop in her ~/.config/autostart  which I sincerely doubt.  however I do think that command I gave you won't change anything
[21:23] <Slart> redrebel: hmm.. that's possible.. but thunderbird should be able to handle thousands or even hundreds of thousands  mails without stuttering
[21:23] <erUSUL> bubba: #ubuntu-server ?
[21:23] <bubba> yep
[21:23] <Slart> mad3linux: looking for something special?
[21:24] <Slart> mad3linux: !search searches for .. factoids, I think.. !find searches for files in repository packages
[21:24] <Guest43790> ok LjL, thanks a lot!
[21:24] <system404> anyway to get evolution to receive my hotmail emails
[21:25] <mad3linux> @search games
[21:25] <Mick27> hi everyone
[21:25] <game> I have 7.10 and wondering what I should  do with it.
[21:25] <system404> anyway to get evolution to receive my hotmail emails
[21:25] <Mick27> is their a channel dedicated to server support ?
[21:25] <jrib> Mick27: #ubuntu-server
[21:25] <game> Put in 8.04 CD and do update?
[21:25] <Mick27> jrib, thanks
[21:25] <system404> anyway to get evolution to receive my hotmail emails
[21:25] <jrib> !upgrade | game
[21:26] <jrib> system404: does hotmail do pop or imap?
[21:26] <Slart> !games | mad3linux
[21:26] <compl3x> ...---...
[21:26] <orgy`> hi, im using ubuntu jaunty without pulse, but there are no treble/bass controls in alsamixer. is there a way to control them somehow anyway?
[21:26] <Slart> !repeat | system404
[21:26] <system404> the paid hotmail accounts have pop but my free account dont
[21:26] <mad3linux> how can I search and a link appear to me ?
[21:26] <deany> i use gmail , it has pop
[21:27] <jrib> mad3linux: google.com?
[21:27] <nmvictor> !patience
[21:27] <Slart> mad3linux: search for what?
[21:27] <erUSUL> system404: afaik hotmail odes not offer pop3 nor imap access so no; there is no way
[21:27] <mad3linux> search here in a server?
[21:27] <system404> iall i know is in outlook u download outlook connector and bam u got hotmail but not sure how to get my hotmail in ubuntu
[21:27] <mad3linux> for music files
[21:27] <erUSUL> !info gotmail | system404
[21:27] <Slart> mad3linux: wrong channel
[21:27] <mad3linux> ohh, sorry :)
[21:27] <Slart> mad3linux: this isn't a file sharing channel
[21:27] <bubba> i need help with my server
[21:27] <system404> ubotto is it easy to setup as in is it easy for a linux noob lol
[21:27] <jrib> bubba: ask your question
[21:28] <nmvictor> i used to think ubottu is one person out their,lol i was damn wrong.why dint you tell me ubottu?
[21:28] <Slart> !bot
[21:28] <Pici> system404: ubottu is a bot
[21:28] <system404> well that question goes to everyone is gotmail easy to setup with hotmail
[21:28] <system404> from a noob point of view