[00:00] <jrib> !repos | Increase
[00:00] <Increase> jrib, I'm root (sudo su) and I've ran update already
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> jacobguy7800, Thats 10 pushups for you.
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[00:00] <dr_willis> best to not use 'sudo su' to get a root shell. use 'sudo -s'
[00:00] <Increase> universe is enabled
[00:00] <jacobguy7800> I have a problem with compiz whats the compiz desk menu package called i can't find it in the repos.
[00:00] <dr_willis> or 'sudo -i'
[00:00] <jrib> Increase: I said you need to do 2 things.  And use « sudo -i » not sudo su
[00:01] <Increase> What's the difference?
[00:01] <Wulframn> Out of curiosity, why is sudo su bad?
[00:01] <jrib> sudo -i will sanitize the environment
[00:01] <dr_willis> Wulframn:  it dosent swet the env settings properly and its redundant
[00:01] <jrib> like su - as opposed to su
[00:01] <honestly> vieira: my suggestion is to set your login shell back to bash, and use ssh config to force the execution of the script
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> jacobguy7800, ccsm or compizconfig blah blah
[00:01] <fabrina> fiz login
[00:01] <Wulframn> I gotcha
[00:01] <fabrina> eu acho
[00:01] <jacobguy7800> But wheres compiz-deskmenu
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> jacobguy7800, Needs to be installed
[00:01] <dr_willis> !find compiz-deskmenu
[00:01] <jacobguy7800> It's on pacman where is it on apt!!
[00:02] <Phoenix1969> ok, when i use nomodeset from cd boot, then select boot from hd... it gets to the user/guest option screen, but nothing works...mouse...keyboard...nothing... ?
[00:02] <dr_willis> jacobguy7800:  that eosent mean the package name is the same on ubuntu. what does it do exactly?
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> !find compizconfig
[00:02] <jacobguy7800> I'm stuck in a menuless window manager and tint2 won't install agh!!!
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> compizconfig-settings-manager is it Ibelieve
[00:02] <fabrina> alguém pode falar em português ?
[00:02] <dr_willis> jacobguy7800:  it may be part of a bigger compiz plugins  extra package.   try apt-cache search deskmenu   yet?
[00:03] <vieira> honestly: Can I do that programatically (via a shell script) on a per user basis? Can you point me in the right direction?
[00:03] <jacobguy7800> I've search in software center and tryed aptgetting it even as root and it still won't work!!
[00:03] <vieira> fabrina: Aqui não se fala português. Junte-se ao canal #ubuntu-br. Lá fala-se português.
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> fabrina, This is an English channel.
[00:04] <jacobguy7800> If i find the package for arch how can i recompile for raring?
[00:04] <fabrina> a sim obrigada
[00:04] <jacobguy7800> I know i need the source.
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> jacobguy7800, I doubt you need to.
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> not  a good option really
[00:05] <jacobguy7800> I like standalone window managers like openbox cause rick click is simple but i want eyecandy like compiz.
[00:06] <Phoenix1969> HELP... on the black screen boot problem...ok, when i use nomodeset from cd boot, then select boot from hd... it gets to the user/guest option screen, but nothing works...mouse...keyboard...nothing... ?
[00:06] <lycons> someone speak spanish
[00:06] <tripelb> help please. unity doesnt see ntsd
[00:06] <jacobguy7800> It's all fine though.
[00:06] <tripelb> how do i see other partitions in unity?
[00:07] <lycons> connect
[00:07] <jacobguy7800> I like unity just as much as the next guy, I might just get fresh-from-the-farm debian and deal with it.
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> tripelb, gparted or sudo fdsik -l are two
[00:07] <dr_willis> Phoenix1969:  so on the LIVE Cd/Installer disk its asking  for a login? last time i saw that - it was due to a bad cd image/burn
[00:07] <dr_willis> tripelb:  you mount filesystems in order to access them.
[00:08] <Phoenix1969> i selected boot from hdd, and when it got to the choose user...Me, or "guest"...nothing worked
[00:08] <dr_willis> tripelb:   what filesystem is the  drive in question using?
[00:08] <dr_willis> Phoenix1969:  your system cant boot itself normally?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> fdisk -l*
[00:09] <dr_willis> Phoenix1969:  why are you using the live cd to boot the system is what im asking
[00:09] <Phoenix1969> not onto ubuntu, just win7
[00:09] <fabrina> eu consegui entrar
[00:09] <Steve_Ballmer> Ubuntu is a scam
[00:09] <Steve_Ballmer> Think about the DEVELOPES.
[00:09] <Phoenix1969> it wont boot into ubuntu, i get a black screen with cursor
[00:09] <Steve_Ballmer> DEVELOPERS
[00:09] <Steve_Ballmer> DEVELOPERS
[00:09] <FloodBot1> Steve_Ballmer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:09] <dr_willis> Phoenix1969:  i would try to get grub working  on the installed system, then  start troubleshooting the video issues. what is your video card anyway?
[00:10] <Phoenix1969> 7970
[00:10] <dr_willis> Phoenix1969:  so you DO boot the system with grub from its hard drive?  or not?
[00:10] <azazel91> it still wont work i cant seem to find the files i deleted from the live cd
[00:10] <Phoenix1969> I tried both, it simply wont boot
[00:10] <tripelb> wilee-nilee how can i just see and write and read directories, files, on other partitions like i used to in gnome where it was transparent.
[00:10] <dr_willis> 7970 is just a random number to me.. dosent tell me much of anything.
[00:10] <dr_willis> Phoenix1969:  booting is one thing.. a working X desktop is another..  the system CAN boot and still have a unuseable desktop
[00:11] <Phoenix1969> ok...
[00:11] <dr_willis> Phoenix1969:  try the TEXT boot option from your installed systems grub menu, not the live cd.
[00:11] <Phoenix1969> ?
[00:11] <dr_willis> !text
[00:11] <Phoenix1969> k, then what
[00:14] <Phoenix1969> gigabyte amd 7970
[00:16] <irssi-mike> Phoenix1969: how about easybcd for the booting and burn that iso again
[00:16] <tripelb> dr_willis: hi. I've been offline a while. i never had to mount in gnome. how do i get the my_computer or explorer, you know the normal nautilus voew. and... where can i learn to do this in bash? help does not even lost the ls command.  e
[00:16] <Thete> Damn I love saucy
[00:17] <Phoenix1969> easybcd?
[00:17] <irssi-mike> Phoenix1969: i had a coaster from using burnerxp, went with the built in burner on windows and everything worked
[00:17] <Phoenix1969> ya, i just used windows to burn..
[00:17] <fabrina> oiii
[00:17] <irssi-mike> Phoenix1969: verified too?
[00:17] <Phoenix1969> ya
[00:18] <poppingtonic> hello all
[00:18] <irssi-mike> Phoenix1969: shoot
[00:18] <fabrina> oi[
[00:18] <fabrina> ............................................................
[00:20] <Phoenix1969> so, if I know "nomodeset" got me to the user logon before, would I then need to edit the grub...correct?
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, Or install a driver.
[00:20] <Phoenix1969> hmm, so to install the ubuntu driver for my gigabyte 7970, I do what?
[00:21] <tripelb> dr_willis: i can see the ubuntu partition. that is the 12.04 disc only.  Is that the answer to what filesystem.
[00:21] <Thete> Phoenix1969, Go into Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers, select the proprietary one for your card
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, Have you run a update and upgrade? Have you looked after tha if no driver installed in additional driver in software sources.
[00:22] <Phoenix1969> How can I do that with a blank screen?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, Do you get a desktop with nomodeset?
[00:23] <Phoenix1969> yes, but without keyboard & mouse functionality
[00:23] <Phoenix1969> :(
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, desktop or laptop?
[00:23] <Phoenix1969> desktop
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, usb or the old what ever there called?
[00:24] <saiarcot895> Can dpkg break into circular dependencies?
[00:24] <Phoenix1969> cd/dcd
[00:24] <Phoenix1969> ya
[00:24] <Phoenix1969> lol
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, Do you understand the question?
[00:25] <irssi-mike> ps2
[00:25] <irssi-mike> Phoenix1969: is your keyboard a plug round or flat
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> yeah ps2 or usb on the keyboard and mouse Phoenix1969
[00:26] <Phoenix1969> aaah, usb
[00:26] <Phoenix1969> loll
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, Did they work on the live cd?
[00:27] <Phoenix1969> no
[00:28] <Phoenix1969> just stays on purple screen when trying to boot from cd
[00:28] <Phoenix1969> with logos at bottom
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, when do they work?
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> what OS
[00:28] <irssi-mike> hmm, might just be stuck on splash screen and behind it a bunch of errors.. not that the keyboard is unresponsive
[00:28] <Phoenix1969> when I'm in windows 7
[00:28] <Phoenix1969> the root problem was black screen, remember...
[00:29] <Phoenix1969> when booting ubuntu
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, From the desktop can you try ctrl-alt f2
[00:29] <irssi-mike> Phoenix1969: initially, but then you nomodeset and login and then blank again
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> to bet a tty command line
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> get*
[00:29] <Phoenix1969> ok, i can indeed, what to expect then...ill have to shutdown to try...?
[00:30] <Phoenix1969> no, when i get to nomode set guest/me logon, nothing  works
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, If you get that with those key presses your keyboard works, so from there login and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, It may be if we can get to a command line the update and upgrade may get this fixed or closer anyway
[00:32] <Phoenix1969> so i just enter that into cmd line?
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, from ctrl-alt-f2 from the desktop or the login area.
[00:33] <Phoenix1969> ill try, bb soon
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> good luck camper
[00:34] <tripelb> dr_willis: so 1/3 of my HD is useless to me.
[00:36] <irssi-mike> Phoenix1969: strange thing, are you sure you couldn't TAB your way around at that login
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> irssi-mike, I wonder if this is a uefi setup.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> users get those and reinstall W7 and never mention oh by the way I have the fastboot...etc blah blah blah
[00:42] <daftykins> they should kinda notice since they tend to have to place the bootx64.efi file on flash drives to UEFI boot :(
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, One would think so I see users here all the time with what is uefi, when they have it.
[00:43] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:43] <randalltux> hi
[00:43] <daftykins> UEFI is definitely causing a lot of people here a lot of trouble
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu is so easy is the word so people jump in the shallow pool head first
[00:45] <reisio> it is easy
[00:45] <reisio> you can't compare installing an OS to receiving a computer with a preinstalled OS
[00:46] <reisio> not that UEFI isn't awful :p
[00:46] <daftykins> to be honest most people that install Windows don't do it right
[00:46] <daftykins> but yeah reisio's factory install point is very fair
[00:46] <gambit69> looking for information on the command to copy and rename a file in the same directory please. Thank you
[00:47] <daftykins> gambit69: cp <src> <dst>
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> gambit69, You were just in #ubuntu-touch what is the OS?
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> complaining of no help within 3min
[00:49] <gambit69> Yeah I was in there but no one was saying anything. I'm on the ubuntu system commandline. I'm just looking for the command to copy and rename a file in the same directory.
[00:49] <luke_> how can you mess up a pre-installed os btw?
[00:49] <reisio> luke_: in the case of Windows, by booting it :p
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> cool, have some patience you had an answer already.
[00:49] <luke_> i completly disagree with that
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> bazinga reisio
[00:49] <reisio> BAZINGA
[00:49] <kaihit> hey guys!
[00:50] <reisio> luke_: your opinion is noted!
[00:50] <reisio> kaihit: hi
[00:50] <kaihit> what's up!
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> my blood pressure
[00:50] <reisio> :D
[00:51] <irssi-mike> gambit69: there isn't a rename, there's move, i.e. mv file destination
[00:52] <kaihit> so, what are you talking about?
[00:52] <gambit69>  cp sourse destination copies a file from one place to another. How does that allow me to copy the file and rename it in the same directory?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu support, we only chat on occasion.
[00:53] <daftykins> when the ops aren't around :(
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> a hierarchal earned privilege
[00:54] <gambit69> so there is no way to make a duplicate file and rename it without moving it to another directory first?
[00:54] <kaihit> wilee-nilee: all right!
[00:54] <daftykins> gambit69: "cp <src> <dst>" how many more times must i repeat myself?
[00:55] <irssi-mike> daftykins: he wants to clone a file and keep it in the same directory
[00:55] <irssi-mike> with a diff name
[00:55] <joe75> lol
[00:55] <irssi-mike> i don't know
[00:55] <kaihit> gambit69: i have the same doubts  you have
[00:55] <luke_> mv <originalname> <newname>
[00:56] <irssi-mike> luke_: yes but he wants to keep original as original
[00:56] <joe75> he didn't get the renaming part :P
[00:57] <daftykins> i believe i need a diagram to understand gambit's conundrum
[00:57] <daftykins> it would have pretty pictures and arrows along a timeline
[00:57] <luke_> lol
[00:58] <daftykins> but alas, he or she has gone :(
[00:58] <daftykins> i may never know the circumstances surrounding this challenging fate which presented itself to one... gambit69
[00:58] <luke_> has anyone here written irc bots before?
[00:58] <daftykins> and so i must turn in for the night
[00:58] <daftykins> nn all \o
[00:58] <luke_> nite
[01:00] <choct155> I am trying to apply a patch (https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2718041/) to fix my signal strength issue with the Atheros AR9485.  When I navigate to the appropriate driver directory (ath9k driver), however, I don't see the appropriate file to patch (or even anything with a .c suffix).  I can only see files with .ko extensions.  Am I missing something?
[01:01] <saiarcot895> choct155: you have to apply patches to the source files, and then compile them and install them
[01:01] <Maple__> Where do I find where the swap partition is mounted?
[01:01] <reisio> Maple__: they aren't mounted at all
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> luke_, Yeah, they never write back though they are uppity. ;)
[01:01] <saiarcot895> choct155: run "sudo apt-get source package" to get the sources for package
[01:02] <reisio> choct155: ar9003_eeprom.c?
[01:02] <Maple__> errrrk
[01:03] <Demos> hey so I am using Empathy, is there anything better/more unity integrated for IRC
[01:03] <spikespiegel> hello, i was hoping someone could point me into the right direction ubuntu updates
[01:03] <reisio> choct155: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, what updates, kinda a vague question.
[01:03] <NK`> i'm trying to downgrade a package with apt right after an upgrade, but apt-cache policy is not giving me the previous version nor apt-cache showpkg
[01:03] <NK`> any idea ?
[01:04] <NK`> i just can't downgrade my package it's really bothering
[01:04] <guest_01> huh.. turns out that ssh -D actually makes a simple vpn connection. anyone else know that
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, There is a update gui and the command line, is this updates beyond the repos packages?
[01:05] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, just updating in general, i know people say its better to update using apt-get but for some reason when i do the dist-upgrade to match what updates the gui will do my system seems to act haywire
[01:05] <NK`> guest_01: if i'm not confusing ssh -D is setting up a proxy socks
[01:05] <NK`> with remote host
[01:05] <saiarcot895> NK`: you shouldn't need to downgrade a package (at least not one in the repos). what package is it?
[01:05] <NK`> it's gdb
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, Can you explain hayware
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> haywire*
[01:06] <NK`> latest version of gdb is linked with python3 lib
[01:06] <guest_01> nope NK you're right. but, if after that socks is set up you type an ip of another system and port in the browser it'll access them
[01:06] <NK`> and i have a python2 gdb script
[01:06] <guest_01> like a vpn
[01:06] <NK`> so i would really want to downgrade my gdb to the python2 version.
[01:06] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, last time i did dist-upgrade with 12.04.2 it downloaded new kernels (which right now on fresh install are not being installed with just apt-get upgrade)
[01:06] <NK`> i just don't want to bother about 2to2 just because of the upgrade
[01:06] <NK`> 2to3*
[01:07] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, after the kernel, my keyboard wasnt responding and after a couple reboots it started working again, and just other weird system glitches
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, That is normal, you need the dist-upgrade for some updates
[01:07] <NK`> guest_01: almost like a vpn yes
[01:07] <saiarcot895> NK`: you could go into Launchpad and download the default version of gdb that comes with Raring (or whatever distro you're using)
[01:07] <NK`> because it's a proxy tunneled inside ssl
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, keyboard problems are not normal I was answering the previous post
[01:08] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, is it "safer" to do the dist-upgrade using the GUI as i've read it does not actually delete any packages?
[01:08] <NK`> saiarcot895: that would be a way to do it yes
[01:08] <guest_01> cept you're stuck in browser. i guess. i didnt know that tho. blew my mind
[01:08] <saiarcot895> NK`: wait, are you using Saucy?
[01:08] <NK`> but can't it be done with embedded tools in the distri ?
[01:08] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, or am i better off not doing dist-upgrade until say 12.04.3 is released
[01:08] <NK`> saiarcot895: i have to confess guilty yes :)
[01:08] <saiarcot895> NK`: it might, but you would have to know the version
[01:09] <NK`> i know it exactly from the apt-get changelog
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, I run dist-upgrade every time the key is looking at what it is doing, I use the terminal though.
[01:09] <saiarcot895> NK`: oh yeah, I forgot about that
[01:10] <saiarcot895> NK`: you can try using "sudo apt-get install gdb=7.6.5ubuntu1"
[01:10] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, yeah thats what i usually do after doing normal upgrade, do you think it was just a coincidence that my system became glitchy after the dist-upgrade?
[01:10] <NK`> yes i tried that
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, Have you seen any partial upgrades offered?
[01:10] <NK`> it didn't work unfortunately
[01:10] <NK`> i don't know why i don't have the previous version when i do apt-cache policy gdb
[01:10] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, The following packages have been kept back:
[01:10] <spikespiegel>   linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[01:10] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, thats all that isnt updating from upgrade
[01:11] <saiarcot895> NK`: because only the latest version is kept in the repos
[01:11] <NK`> yes i guess
[01:11] <NK`> that's really wrong they choosed to link it with python3 already
[01:11] <NK`> :')
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, you have run a update inspite of a partial warning?
[01:12] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, no i haven't updated anything yet as i dont want my system to glitch out, it hasn't said anything about partial upgrades though
[01:12] <saiarcot895> NK`: python3 has been included since what, Quantal?
[01:12] <NK`> hm
[01:12] <NK`> since quantal i think yes
[01:12] <choct155> reisio:  thanks for the pointer
[01:12] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, looks like lix-headers and linux-image 3.5.0-37 is whats being held back from standard upgrade
[01:12] <spikespiegel> linux-headers
[01:12] <choct155> saiarcot895:  what is the package in this case?  the ath9k?
[01:12] <NK`> maybe since precise
[01:13] <NK`> i think apport is using python since quantal at least
[01:13] <NK`> python3*
[01:13] <NK`> saiarcot895: you're using saucy as well ?
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, Good, you don't want to run a partial it is generally waiting for additional packages. Kernels are vheld and need a dist-upgrade. Not sure on the keyboard problems. Problem here is that your questions are well lets say special, and hard to answer.
[01:14] <saiarcot895> choct155: I believe it's linux-image-extra-`uname -r`-generic
[01:14] <saiarcot895> NK`: raring
[01:14] <saiarcot895> choct155: but there may be a slightly easier way
[01:14] <NK`> what's the last gdb included in it so far ?
[01:14] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, lol of course thats me. what is your recommendation? is it worth doing dist-upgrade or is it better to play it safe with just upgrade
[01:15] <saiarcot895> NK`: seems to be prerelease version of 7.6
[01:15] <choct155> saiarcot895:  i see (at least enough to move the ball a bit).  what's the easier way?
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, If nothing is messed up dist-upgrades should be fine, but do this from a terminal and before you hiy Y for yes look at what it is doing.
[01:16] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, alright going to give it a shot
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, Takes a little while to understand and remember all the key apps, so just keep on learning.
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> and understand all of updates and upgrades
[01:17] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, i just want to make sure im not messing up by doing the dist-upgrades right now its fine cause its a fresh install but 2 months down the road would kinda suck :P
[01:17] <NK`> lastest in saucy is gdb (7.6-5ubuntu2) from the 30 of july, and it's the one which is linked to python3 lib
[01:17] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, i figured i was being an idiot and forcing things that shouldnt be installed
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, A good concern really, better to ask than act all wilee-nilee
[01:17] <NK`> i guess i'll go for a 2to3
[01:17] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, indeed
[01:18] <saiarcot895> choct155: the linux backports project (https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page) has tarballs of just the wireless drivers in the package I mentioned; you could try downloading this, applying the patch, and installing it
[01:18] <saiarcot895> choct155: if it works, this would require less time than recompiling 2/3 of the kernel drivers
[01:19] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, looks as if its not going to remove anything, but just install an additional kernel, so im assuming the older kernel will stay as a failsafe option?
[01:19] <saiarcot895> choct155: note that they have their own IRC channel at #kernel-backports, so you can go there to ask any questions
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, yeah the old ones stay you v=can remove them if needed if they build up keeping two sets is the nrom, one as a backup.
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> norm*
[01:20] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, where are these kernels saved and how do you remove just apt-get remove?
[01:21] <choct155> saiarcot895:  ok, I saw that page before, but I was unsure what version I was supposed to acquire.  I can ask that in the backport page though.  Thanks for your help.  One more quick thing:  it looked like (from the bug) that the patch was applied to 3.10-rc5.  Since this is before a stable 3.10 release, I can apply it to 3.9 right?
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, They are in root basically, can be removed from the terminal I use the ubuntu tweak 3rd party janotor at times, or from synaptic, and probably the software center.
[01:22] <spikespiegel> wilee-nilee, okay thank you!
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> spikespiegel, NO problem, enjoy. ;)
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> time to wash the delicates afk
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> lol
[01:23] <saiarcot895> choct155: yes, you can (that being said, functionality isn't guaranteed, so be prepared to uninstall the driver (it installs to a special update folder, I think) if it doesn't work)
[01:23] <choct155> saiarcot895:  you have been most helpful!  thanks
[01:23] <saiarcot895> choct155: also, there's a script in there that lets you build only the wireless driver you use, but it's available only for some drivers
[01:24] <choct155> reisio:  you have also helped me out a couple times now!
[01:24] <choct155> saiarcot895:  in the backport site?
[01:24] <saiarcot895> choct155: in the tarball itself
[01:25] <choct155> saiarcot895:  gotcha
[01:25] <choct155> saiarcot895:  i will be on the lookout
[01:26] <f00bar80> tried to manually recover system after upgrade by mount -n -o remount,rw / and then dpkg --configure -a , got Processing halted because there were too many errors , any idea what i can do ? i've tried boot-repair disk and got different kernels booting options
[01:26] <f00bar80> really i need help if anynbody can help , i'll appreciate it
[01:27] <jghfuyitf768i5f> ubuntu crap
[01:28] <cgtdk> jghfuyitf768i5f: that's not very productive
[01:28] <jghfuyitf768i5f> windows rocks
[01:28] <cgtdk> If you want people to help you, be nice. If you just want to complain, please go away.
[01:28] <BananaMagician> I like ubuntu
[01:28] <cgtdk> !offtopic
[01:29] <sudoatx> I am still a fan of Ubuntu in spite of what Richard Stallman might say
[01:29] <cgtdk> !offtopic | sudoatx
[01:30] <BananaMagician> dont you mean GNU/Ubuntu
[01:30] <f00bar80> ppl anybody can help
[01:31] <anonee> hello, I'm trying to write a script to directory using lftp, as mentioned in step 3, I should hardcode the destination directory, but I thought I'd better write a scripts that works even if the user moves the destination directory, how can I replace the hardcoded destination directory with a variable that tells the current directory (where the script is located) to lftp?
[01:31] <cgtdk> !anyone | f00bar80
[01:31] <rhinux> Hi. I have installed a mini.iso for net install on usb, booting works, but I need a roprietary wlan driver b43 + firmware. I have it on 2nd usb partition, but i cant mount it in boot shell. then I booted again from hdd and mounted ISO as loop, but always only ro, remount,rw doesnt work :(  any idea?
[01:32] <f00bar80> tried to manually recover system after upgrade by mount -n -o remount,rw / and then dpkg --configure -a , got Processing halted because there were too many errors , any idea what i can do ? i've tried boot-repair disk and got different kernels booting options
[01:32] <jghfuyitf768i5f> uninstall ubuntu and install windows all problems solved
[01:32] <cgtdk> !ops
[01:32] <jrib> cgtdk: what is the issue?
[01:33] <cgtdk> jrib: jghfuyitf768i5f is a troll
[01:33] <IdleOne> !behelpful | jghfuyitf768i5f
[01:34] <phoenix1969> HELP...Im back... none of that worked...but..I was able to download the .run driver istallation file for the graphics card I have, so how do I do this?? its sitting on my windows desktop...do I move it into the ubunto folder somewhere?,...how to run?
[01:34] <doggone> Does anyone know about the SMF forums getting hacked?
[01:34] <jose> hey guys, any of you know if it's possible to use my Ubuntu PC as a bluetooth headset?
[01:34] <realdeal> haha
[01:35] <bigbadben> Hi I have public keys set up on my ssh server now I want to be able to ssh into that server with my laptop what is the best way of getting the keys over
[01:36] <jrib> bigbadben: copy any way you can? (e.g. using ssh)
[01:36] <bigbadben> but I cant scp from laptop to the server
[01:36] <doggone> bigbadben: use a password to auth?
[01:36] <jrib> bigbadben: why not?  Anyway, you should generate a new key for your laptop
[01:37] <jrib> but you don't have to
[01:37] <jrib> bigbadben: you can do the "ssh"y part on either side of scp.  For example, scp foo host:bar or scp host:foo bar
[01:38] <bigbadben> my desktop is at home I it connects to the server I am not at home but I want to connect to the ssh server is it possible with public keys set up
[01:38] <deadmund> Is there a way to remove some of the items from the recently used list?
[01:38] <anonee> Sorry, the question is corrected now: 'm trying to write a script to sync a local directory with an ftp site using lftp, as mentioned in step 3, http://www.kreci.net/linux/how-to-synchronize-your-files-by-ftp/ I should hardcode the destination directory in the script, but I thought I'd better write a variable that tells the current directory (where the script is located) to lftp, so the script works if the user moves the destination directory. is it possible?
[01:39] <reisio> anonee: do what?
[01:39] <cynicist> deadmund: do you mean in unity?
[01:39] <Maple__> Is there a way to find which usergroups a user is in via terminal?
[01:40] <deadmund> cynicist: ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
[01:40] <reisio> Maple__: groups
[01:40] <jose> anonee: in your script put the output of 'pwd' as a variable
[01:40] <cynicist> deadmund: where are the results showing up?
[01:41] <Maple__> No, rather than descriptions, just the group names alone.
[01:41] <deadmund> cynicist: In a script that I am working on that reads and parses the XML of this file?
[01:41] <jrib> Maple__: groups
[01:41] <deadmund> cynicist: what does it matter what modules read the file, what is really important is what writes it no?  The file automatically regenerates itself
[01:41] <micros> does anyone know what might cause all of a processes child processes to receive SIGABRT at the same time?  We have a starter process, which can kill children with SIGQUIT as required, however, it never sends SIGABRT. When we kill the parent, the children do not die, which is expected behavior so exit of the parent doesnt seem to be the cause.  Neither does an out of memory condition (thought
[01:41] <micros> perhaps all the processes fail on a malloc when unblocking from their receive queues, but this isnt the case either)... ideas?  thanks.
[01:42] <Maple__> ...oh.
[01:42] <Maple__> nvm
[01:42] <Maple__> Thanks.
[01:42] <cynicist> deadmund: my question was where the results are showing up and whether you wanted to see them at all
[01:42] <cynicist> deadmund: if you mean selectively remove then I don't know
[01:43] <deadmund> cynicist: My script shows me which episode of TV shows I've most recently watched.  I recently started a series over (from season 24 to season 1) so I want to remove the season 24 entries that are still int he list
[01:43] <deadmund> cynicist: I mean selectively remove them
[01:43] <deadmund> cynicist: this recently used files feature is buried really deep in gtk.  Seems like it should be more modular
[01:43] <deadmund> cynicist: thanks anyway, i'll keep searching
[01:45] <cynicist> deadmund: yeah it's not very configurable, gl
[01:45] <deadmund> cynicist: thanks
[01:45] <anonee> jose should this work?
[01:45] <anonee> mirror -n ftp://site/dir1 $pwd
[01:46] <jose> anonee: haven't used the mirror command, but if you write " $pwd = `pwd`" without "" at the beginning, it should
[01:50] <anonee> sorry jose, $wd=pwd
[01:50] <anonee> mirror -n ftp://thesite/dir1/ $wd
[01:50] <anonee> I'll try this, thank you.
[01:50] <jose> anonee: put a space before and after the =
[01:52] <spikespiegel> man i hope this ubuntu phone actually happens, that would be pretty amazing
[01:52] <dr3mro> hello
[01:52] <woo> hi
[01:53] <woo> spikespiegel: are you talking about the edge?
[01:53] <spikespiegel> woo, yea
[01:54] <woo> spikespiegel: is ringtail the os side?
[01:55] <spikespiegel> woo, not really sure how that works
[02:00] <anonee> OMG jose you should see this. try lftp> set -a
[02:00] <jose> anonee: pardon?
[02:00] <anonee> jose this is how you can see which variables you can set
[02:01] <jose> oh, ok
[02:02] <guest654> anyone have any ideas on sshfs and hibernate. either keep the connection open or remount it somehow
[02:05] <guest654> think fstab is suppose to do that but wont accept any options for some reason
[02:07] <andsch> Hello. Sorry if it is a silly question, but how do I uninstall old kernels and packages that put files in my /boot partition?
[02:07] <qin> guest654: you probably want to  unmount shares with fuse before hibernation or suspend. some neatly composed script should do
[02:08] <guest654> qin: where would i put the scipt. i can put it together i just need the right file location
[02:08] <dr_willis> andsch:  with the pavkage manager tools
[02:09] <guest654> or, even on the ifup, that would work i think. where would i put that file
[02:09] <dr_willis> andsch:   askubuntu.com ahas some scripts to clean out old kernesl
[02:10] <andsch> dr_willis: how do I run it? Is it in Ubuntu Software Center?
[02:10] <dakotawulfy> ubuntu tweak  has stuff to remove the old kernels
[02:11] <dr_willis> andsch:  you use software center or apt-get. or aptitude. or synaptic to.remove the packages
[02:11] <dr_willis> any of the package manager tools will work
[02:12] <qin> guest654: one way would be to go with pm-actions, but I have never managed to make it work properly.
[02:14] <guest654> qin: i know i tried that too. it wouldnt even look at the file so gave up.
[02:15] <guest654> i was thinking the interval setting in sshd_conf but im not sure how that works with hibernate
[02:17] <qin> guest654: I think furthest it was manual unmounter, and some batty ideas to call hibernate and screenlock from within script.
[02:18] <goddard> how can i enable/disable crossfire from the command line?
[02:22] <guest654> ok thanks.
[02:22] <hdon> hi all :) i am using nvidia driver 304.88 for my GeForce 9600 GT. is there a newer driver i should/could be using? i have a lot of problems with my desktop hanging. seems to always happen when i'm running 3D OpenGL applications. either running more than one, or running those and a web browser at the same time will cause my computer to hang for 2-12 seconds every so often.
[02:23] <qin> guest654: Here is mass unmounter, it should be easy to add remount feature and hibernate http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934900/
[02:23] <acidrain> im looking at the ffmpeg utility for terminal. it says its depricated and to install avconv. sudo apt-get install avconv. couldnt find package
[02:23] <acidrain> any good terminal tools for sound conversions i can use that doesnt require me going on a goose chase?
[02:25] <acidrain> eh... doing ffmpeg -h. the tools is too big and beautiful to lose
[02:27] <somsip> acidrain: a bit of info here that might help you about the state of ffmpeg/avconv http://superuser.com/questions/507386/libav-vs-ffmpeg-better-to-use-libav-avconv-today
[02:29] <qin> !info dmenu
[02:30] <dr_willis> ! find dmenu
[02:33] <qin> dr_willis: I am getting retarded,,, suckless-tool for dwm for dmenu, it cant be less wired.
[02:41] <angelazou> quick question, I added a PPA repo for php5
[02:41] <angelazou> but now when I try to install PEAR, I got these error messages
[02:41] <angelazou> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5/ubuntu/ raring/main php-pear all 5.4.17-1~raring+1
[02:42] <angelazou> how can I remove this PPA or find another PPA that has pear package?
[02:42] <krz> is it possible to have 2 applications start at workspace 2 at startup?
[02:43] <somsip> !ppa-purge
[02:44] <somsip> angelazou: that was for you...forgot to prefix your nick
[02:44] <angelazou> is there a ppa-list?
[02:44] <angelazou> I'd like to confirm before I remove it
[02:44] <somsip> !ppa | angelazou
[02:48] <codepython777> anyone here who runs powerdns/any other dns server? I'm running pdns and it dies in the middle - cant find anything suspicious in the logs. grep "error" /var/log/daemon.log = nothing - Any ideas how to debug this?
[02:52] <SaddyHeart> hi guys
[02:53] <reisio> hi baby
[03:05] <john38> Hello all, can anybody recommend a good program to recover deleted files on Precise Pangolin 12.04???....
[03:06] <benkillin> you're pretty much screwed
[03:06] <benkillin> you have to do file carving
[03:06] <benkillin> ext3/4 zeros out the pointers so once its deleted there is no mapping to the data anymore, unlike ntfs
[03:06] <john38> how can that be out of all the software on database and not one for file recovery
[03:07] <reisio> john38: deleted how?
[03:07] <cynicist> angelazou: yes you can search for Software & Updates in the dash or edit > software sources from the Ubuntu Software Center and find your ppas listed under the 'Other Software' tab
[03:07] <benkillin> you'd have to make a forensic quality image of the disk then use advacned forensics tools to recover the files
[03:07] <john38> reisio, deleted from trash
[03:07] <reisio> john38: via the file manager?
[03:08] <john38> reisio, no accidently
[03:08] <reisio> accidentally via what...
[03:08] <john38> what do you mean via what
[03:08] <reisio> nevermind, look into extundelete
[03:08] <reisio> try not to make writes to the FS in the interim
[03:08] <john38> i mean empty trash
[03:08] <mumpitzel> reisio: and this would work with ext3/ext4?
[03:08] <john38> extundelete
[03:09] <reisio> mumpitzel: yup, potentially
[03:09] <john38> ok thanks
[03:09] <mumpitzel> reisio: no. https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_undelete_files_in_Ext4.3F
[03:10] <reisio> mumpitzel: no what?
[03:10] <mumpitzel> it won't work
[03:10] <benkillin> oh are the pointers to the disk blocks that belong to a file stored in the FS journal?
[03:10] <john38> anybody heard of foremost
[03:11] <reisio> mumpitzel: are you pitting a wiki against an entire application named 'extundelete'?
[03:11] <benkillin> that might work in that case assuming the block wasn't moved since the last entry in the journal
[03:11] <mumpitzel> benkillin: read the link and the stuff it lonks to itself
[03:11] <reisio> hang on while I edit the wiki to not say that anymore
[03:11] <reisio> heh
[03:11] <reisio> oh nevermind
[03:11] <mumpitzel> reisio: yes. cause the ext2/3/4 developers know more about their filesystem than other people, who write arbitrarily named programs
[03:11] <reisio> did you ever follow its own link? https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Undeletion
[03:11] <reisio> mumpitzel: spoke too soon :p ^
[03:13] <mumpitzel> you can try to undelete ext3 files, but the results will rarely give you your files back for any non trivial case. and I don't know any program for ext4 with the new features
[03:13] <reisio> no way
[03:13] <reisio> but do you know what 'potentially' mean?
[03:13] <reisio> meanz
[03:14] <benkillin> "extundelete uses some concepts and code first shown to be successful by the ext3grep program. extundelete is able to recover the contents of an inode by searching the file system's journal for an old copy of that inode. It then uses that information to determine the file's location within the file system. Then, extundelete reads the corresponding data and copies it to a file in the recovery directory."
[03:14] <benkillin> that sounds extremely iffy
[03:14] <benkillin> by the time you even install and compile the program you've probably overwritten the data that you were trying to recover if you didn't immediately power down and take a forensic image
[03:15] <reisio> you're right, he shouldn't even bother trying it
[03:15] <reisio> good call :p
[03:15] <mumpitzel> benkillin: to use any undelete program you unmount or mount the filesystem in question read only immediately and do nothing at all anymore on it
[03:15] <benkillin> I know
[03:15] <benkillin> I actually have done forensic file recovery before
[03:15] <mumpitzel> !ops TirixTa is messaging GNAA spam
[03:15] <sandman> So I've two routers in my home, both linksys, two Ubuntu 12.04 installations, exactly the same, with a printer connected wirelessly to one of the routers. The Ubuntu machine on that router can print to it. The Ubuntu machine that is on the router that's not close to the printer cannot print to it, though. One router is set to Gateway mode (this is the one connected to the modem), the other router is set to "Router" mode and DHCP ser
[03:16] <sandman> Both routers have the same SSID, encryption, and so on. Only their channel is different. I've tried different SSIDs, and that doesn't make a difference either.
[03:16] <sandman> Any help would be appreciated. It just doesn't make sense to me that one could print, while the other can't, meanwhile all other traffic seems to go through just peachy.
[03:16] <benkillin> how are the routers hooked together?
[03:16] <benkillin> do you have one of the lan ports from one plugged into the wan port of the other
[03:16] <mumpitzel> sandman: can you ping the printer or any other host from the machine?
[03:17] <benkillin> if so the nat is probably getting in the way
[03:17] <sandman> router 1, we'll call it, hooked up to the modem, has a cable in the WAN port. The second router does not use its WAN port, but has a cable running from one of its LAN ports to one of the LAN ports on the other router.
[03:17] <sandman> I can ping the other printer, yes.
[03:17] <sandman> All machines can print.
[03:17] <benkillin> wait whats th problem
[03:18] <benkillin> I thought you said one machine cant print
[03:18] <sandman> So I can ping it right now, but the printer that I've added for it manually says "it may not be connected"
[03:18] <sandman> Let me lay out the topology
[03:19] <sandman> Modem => Gateway => Router => Printer. The Ubuntu machine that cannot print is the one that I'm on.
[03:19] <iampoz> hi, does anyone know how to kill certain processes and make sure they do not turn right back on?
[03:20] <sandman> Gateway and Router both have the same wireless configuration, SSID and all, except the channel; one is set to 1, the other 11.
[03:20] <sandman> Router has IP <IP_ADDRESS>, Gateway has <IP_ADDRESS>. Router's DHCP server is disabled.
[03:20] <iampoz> sandman, isent the channels being different a problem?
[03:20] <sandman> Printer is connected to the Router's WLAN. This Ubuntu machine is connected to the Gateway's WLAN.
[03:21] <sandman> iampoz: I've tried the same channel, too. Unfortunately doesn't make a difference =(
[03:21] <iampoz> oh okay
[03:21] <iampoz> what kind of printer?
[03:21] <benkillin> is client isolation turned on in the wireless settings on the router
[03:21] <iampoz> can you print when it is connected by wire?
[03:21] <sandman> From this Ubuntu install, connected to the Gateway's WLAN, I can look at the printer's web interface, ping it, etc, but cannot print to it.
[03:22] <sandman> For the Ubuntu install connected to the Router, through a cable (not WLAN), I can print.
[03:22] <iampoz> what are your firewall settings?
[03:22] <benkillin> have you ensured you can print to it using a wired netowrk as well? maybe you didn't install the driver correctly
[03:22] <sandman> Printer is connected to the Router's WLAN, once again.
[03:22] <sandman> Firewall is disabled on the Router
[03:22] <benkillin> ok so its your compy connected to the router bone, then the router bone is connected to the printer bone, all over wireless
[03:23] <iampoz> what about the firewall in ubuntu?
[03:23] <benkillin> yeah check your iptables rules with `iptables -L`
[03:23] <sandman> iampoz: They are both fresh 12.04 LTS installs, no modifications made to the firewall
[03:23] <iampoz> try to disable the ubuntu firewall
[03:24] <sandman> sudo iptables -L lists nothing.
[03:24] <benkillin> what about ip6tables -L
[03:24] <sandman> Nothing. Just the column headings.
[03:24] <benkillin> what's the default policies
[03:25] <benkillin> any that say drop or reject
[03:25] <sandman> But again, yeah. I can print to it from the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS machine which is connected through cable to the Router.
[03:25] <sandman> benkillin: Nothing is listed from anything.
[03:25] <iampoz> have you tryed turning off the ubuntu firewall?
[03:25] <sandman> for iptables
[03:26] <sandman> iampoz: Not on this machine, but I'd like to note that the other machine is the exact same install as this
[03:26] <sandman> And it can print.
[03:26] <benkillin> also did you check to see if client isolation was turned on in the wireless settings of the router
[03:26] <sandman> But I can do that, sure. How goes?
[03:26] <sandman> benkillin: Okay, just a sec
[03:26] <sandman> Okay, AP isolation is off on both routers.
[03:28] <sandman> I take it that's it =)
[03:28] <sandman> No solution
[03:28] <iampoz> maybe this will help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j--A1UIWYqk
[03:29] <benkillin> make sure the networks are the same and it's not routing just acting as a switch
[03:29] <benkillin> if its routing maybe there is some sort of natting going on for wireless clients
[03:30] <sandman> benkillin: Hmmm... that makes me think
[03:30] <amagee> I have ubuntu 13.04 and a sound card that is detected fine by PulseAudio and works fine with Skype. I want to be able to record from it to disk using the command line. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:30] <reisio> iampoz: heh
[03:31] <iampoz> Have you tried rebooting?
[03:35] <iampoz> so my problem is that i have a number of processes (avahi-daemon, wpa_supplicant, NetworkManager, dhclient) that i want to kill and make sure they do not restart, is it possible to do this?
[03:36] <benkillin> iampoz: no its completely impossible
[03:36] <benkillin> in fact if you try your computer will reformat
[03:36] <iampoz> dont be mean
[03:36] <benkillin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/21654/how-to-temporarily-turn-off-networkmanager-from-the-command-line
[03:37] <iampoz> thank you benkillin
[03:37] <benkillin> my pleasure
[03:38] <clj_newb_2345> is there a way to "apt-get" docker yet on ubuntu?
[03:39] <reisio> clj_newb_2345: it's in universe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[03:39] <reisio> and probably has been for ages :)
[03:39] <clj_newb_2345> isn't docker recent?
[03:39] <reisio> if it is, it has a terrible (taken) name
[03:40] <reisio> talking about this? http://www.docker.io/
[03:40] <clj_newb_2345> yes, was about to paste a link myself
[03:40] <reisio> were you now :p
[03:40] <reisio> clj_newb_2345: https://launchpad.net/~dotcloud/+archive/lxc-docker
[03:40] <angelazou> hi I need to remove a PPA package
[03:40] <reisio> like the logo, anyways
[03:41] <angelazou> I already have python software properties installed, but ppa-purge seems like a different package
[03:42] <clj_newb_2345> it's possible the answer to this question is "don't use ubuntu" but -- what is the ideal distro for a server machine (thus no worry about graphics / 3rd party binary drivers) whose sole job is to run ssh + docker host? So in the "root" system, I need sshd so I can login, and it needs to be able to run docker
[03:42] <Ubuntivity> Hello. I have 2 old computers running Ubuntu server 12.04. I used to update them regularily. but I'm wondering if there is a way to update both of them without having them 2 to download the same packages individually, is that possible?
[03:42] <reisio> Ubuntivity: yup
[03:42] <jpds> clj_newb_2345: What's wrong with using Ubuntu on a server?
[03:42] <Ubuntivity> How is that, mighty reisio?
[03:42] <wh1t3warri0r> Try Arch-linux
[03:42] <jpds> Ubuntivity: Use a proxy.
[03:43] <clj_newb_2345> jpds: nothing, was just wondering if these was a solution tailor made for this
[03:43] <jpds> Ubuntivity: sudo apt-get install squid-deb-proxy
[03:43] <reisio> Ubuntivity: wheee blogs https://locallost.net/?p=6
[03:43] <whoever> Ubuntivity: no
[03:43] <jpds> whoever: No what?
[03:44] <jpds> Ubuntivity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3503/best-way-to-cache-apt-downloads-on-a-lan
[03:44] <Ubuntivity> Did I mis-explain myself earlier? Or I AM getting confusing answers?
[03:44] <whoever> jpds: he asked if he would have his to ubuntu boxes bothe update but only dl the package onece
[03:44] <Ubuntivity> Yes whoever, That's what I meant.
[03:44] <jpds> whoever: That is possible.
[03:45] <jpds> Ubuntivity: whoever is confused.
[03:45] <danny4way> I am looking for a software or music player that works like itunes.
[03:45] <danny4way> I can install itunes on ubuntu but seems it's very slow.
[03:45] <jpds> Ubuntivity: You just need a proxy server to cache the package downloads - see the link I sent you.
[03:45] <whoever> jpds: yes if you had a server that dl'd the packages then you had each box go to the server
[03:45] <reisio> danny4way: yes it would be :p
[03:46] <danny4way> I am looking for any music player that actually connects my iphone and let me transfer music from my computer to my iphone
[03:46] <whoever> jpds: he doesn't have that though
[03:46] <wh1t3warri0r> I want to know how to start a linux group in my town?
[03:46] <reisio> wh1t3warri0r: just start one
[03:46] <Ubuntivity> Thanks jpds, I'm reading the answers to that question on askubuntu right now...
[03:46] <reisio> you don't need permission
[03:46] <jpds> whoever: Of course; he's asking on HOW to set it up.
[03:46] <kgalahassa> Please, on ubuntu 12.10, I have this "'/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'" while charging my virtualbox
[03:47] <reisio> danny4way: do you not have banshee already?
[03:47] <reisio> or rhythmbox
[03:47] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_iPod_managers#iPhone_.26_iPod_Touch_compatibility
[03:47] <whoever> jpds: the only part of hes post i sav was can i update both boxes but only dowload the package once , so sounds like i missed something
[03:47] <wh1t3warri0r> Will people show up
[03:47] <danny4way> Thank you for the chart. reisio
[03:48] <reisio> kgalahassa: hrmm?
[03:48] <danny4way> But how do i install it?
[03:48] <wh1t3warri0r> How do I know if people are going to show up in the linux group.
[03:49] <danny4way> I am actually looking at iRip
[03:49] <danny4way> It seems to work better than others.
[03:49] <kgalahassa> reisio: Please, on ubuntu 12.10, I have this "'/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'" while charging my virtualbox
[03:49] <reisio> kgalahassa: is that a question?
[03:50] <Ubuntivity> How can I protect my home network while I have two Ubuntu Server 12.04 PCs with ssh enabled on them?
[03:50] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: you dont have to you're unhackable if you run linux
[03:50] <wh1t3warri0r> not true
[03:50] <danny4way> hi. Anyone?
[03:50] <Ubuntivity> What about brute-force attacks?
[03:50] <danny4way> I just need to install iRip
[03:51] <Ubuntivity> What about brute-force attacks? benkillin?
[03:51] <kgalahassa> reisio: Please, on ubuntu 12.10, I have this "'/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'" while charging my virtualbox, :: reisio, i need someone who can help, because of this problèm, i can not work on virtualbox
[03:51] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: yeah you're super invulnerable against brute force attacks with ubuntu
[03:51] <wh1t3warri0r> Ubuntivity> Try using a firewall like gufw
[03:52] <Ubuntivity> How would I firewall protect me if I have to keep my port 22 open to ssh into my PCs?
[03:52] <reisio> kgalahassa: what's the problem?
[03:52] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: step 1) make sure no unneeded services are running on your machine, you can check this with netstat or my favorite tool `lsof -i -n` to list all open network sockets and which program is bound to them
[03:52] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: step 2) set up a host based firewall using iptables
[03:52] <reisio> danny4way: iripdb?
[03:52] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: step 3) run ssh on a non default port, but still some port number less than 1024
[03:52] <pzn> I need a help... aparently ubuntu 12.04lts64bits does not work "out of box" with citrix xen + ibm blade server. I'm not familiar with xen. ubuntu frequently fails (3x per week) the harddisk/blockdev and it is remounted read-only). any hints?
[03:52] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: step 4) install fail2ban
[03:53] <danny4way> Wait. Because right now I am on iRip website.
[03:53] <danny4way> And it's like itunes.
[03:53] <reisio> Ubuntivity: ssh is very secure already
[03:53] <danny4way> But for windows i have to buy.
[03:53] <reisio> changing the port won't really make you more secure
[03:53] <danny4way> But for mac, they provide it for free.
[03:53] <reisio> it might reduce traffic, though
[03:53] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: step 5) disable password based authentication for your ssh server, disable remote root login, set up ssh keys with ssh-keygen and only use ssh key based authentication to connect to your machines
[03:53] <danny4way> I have wine and playonlinux
[03:53] <reisio> in exchange for complicating your life hugely
[03:53] <reisio> Ubuntivity: http://xkcd.com/936/
[03:53] <danny4way> But I am not sure if wine and playonlinux actually install mac softwares.
[03:53] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: step 6) set up a network boundary firewall and forward appropriate ports for your two machines if you wish to connect to them from the internet
[03:53] <wh1t3warri0r> Ubuntivity>Are you using key chains or a password for ssh
[03:54] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: step 7) if you can, set up a VPS server, then use tcpwrappers configuration to make it so only that VPS's IP address can connect to the ssh servers running on your machines
[03:54] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: then you could ssh to that vps then from that vps ssh to your servers from the internet, same steps apply for that vps server though, making sure to only use ssh key based auth and such
[03:54] <Ubuntivity> wh1t3warri0r: I'm using passowrd authentication so far
[03:55] <wh1t3warri0r> Ubuntivity> Try using a key chains.
[03:55] <Ubuntivity> AND I'm really fascinated by what ssh can do that I'm intending to port-forward through my router to my PC to remotely-control it from any friend's house or practically any wifi in the world
[03:56] <reisio> danny4way: they don't
[03:56] <danny4way> Okay.
[03:56] <Ubuntivity> I tried at some point of time to use the GPG (isn't it the thing used for that?)
[03:56] <Ubuntivity> But I couldn't set up the two keys (I was really confused)
[03:56] <danny4way> Thank you anyway. I just downloaded ubuntu for school anyway.
[03:56] <kgalahassa> reisio is that each time i want start a virtual machine, i get it:  http://pastebin.com/2Yp9C5rf, see yourself!
[03:57] <danny4way> But it seems hard to use than what i expected.
[03:57] <wh1t3warri0r> Ubuntivity>Go to hak5.org if you want to learn more about linux.
[03:58] <reisio> kgalahassa: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[03:58] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: yes ssh -D and ssh -R and ssh -w all very fun
[03:58] <reisio> kgalahassa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#Ubuntu_12.04_LTS
[03:59] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: http://superuser.com/questions/62303/how-can-i-tunnel-all-of-my-network-traffic-through-ssh
[03:59] <Ubuntivity> I didn't really understand what they do on the manual, benkillin!
[04:00] <benkillin> Ubuntivity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[04:01] <Ubuntivity> Thanks for that link benkillin, I'm gonna read it
[04:01] <Ubuntivity> Got to go to sleep. Thanks to everyone and good bye
[04:05] <benkillin> BTW if anybody was wondering why I said to set an ssh server on a non default port but still less than 1024 its so if you do get your machine compromised, malware still needs root access to bind to your ssh port, this helps mitigate compromise a little bit such that a backdoored ssh server couldn't replace the legit ssh server and steal keystrokes and passwords for other systems
[04:05] <benkillin> just throwin that out there
[04:06] <reisio> waste of time
[04:07] <benkillin> not really
[04:07] <reisio> yeah
[04:07] <benkillin> newp
[04:07] <reisio> yup
[04:07] <benkillin> newp
[04:07] <reisio> yarp
[04:07] <benkillin> newp
[04:07] <reisio> uhuh
[04:07] <benkillin> no you're totally wrong
[04:07] <reisio> no u r
[04:07] <benkillin> no u
[04:07] <reisio> NOU!
[04:07] <benkillin> rofl
[04:07] <reisio> :p
[04:08] <reisio> it's almost french, nou
[04:08] <Wulframn> Non s'il vous plais!
[04:08] <Random832> this has been a very productive use of a screenful of irc output
[04:09] <twu1> reisio: why would it be a waste of time?
[04:09] <kgalahassa> reisio, thks
[04:09] <Random832> benkillin: isn't that what host key verification (which private key should need root access to read from) is for?
[04:10] <benkillin> eh
[04:10] <holstein> security by obscurity wont hurt anything, but one shouldnt depend on it
[04:10] <reisio> twu1: because it doesn't stop people from trying to authenticate
[04:10] <reisio> it will however absolutely massively complicate your ssh system
[04:10] <benkillin> well the point is if you do move it to a different port you can be sure that you know you've either gotten rooted or something
[04:10] <sobhan> does ubuntu 13.4CD have btrfs-progs ?
[04:11] <reisio> benkillin: I'd rather use an intrusion detection system for that
[04:11] <reisio> which you'd have to use anyways
[04:11] <benkillin> meh
[04:11] <benkillin> I like my logs cleaner
[04:11] <holstein> benkillin: yeah? how does the port change indicate that?
[04:12] <reisio> sobhan: http://www.google.com/search?q=help%20ubuntu%20btrfs
[04:12] <holstein> sobhan: 13.04
[04:12] <benkillin> it doesn't but it forces an attacker to have root to backdoor your ssh
[04:12] <reisio> benkillin: rm :p
[04:12] <holstein> !info btrfs-progs
[04:12] <reisio> !butter
[04:12] <reisio> "<ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about butter"
[04:12] <reisio> poor bastard
[04:12] <holstein> sobhan: is it part of a larger package?
[04:12] <varlogtim> !date
[04:13] <benkillin> assuming the prot change was to a port less than 1024 that is
[04:13] <varlogtim> apt-cache search btrfs
[04:13] <anonee> !shorewall
[04:13] <holstein> benkillin: i have never heard that..
[04:13] <benkillin> well you need root to bind to any port less than 1024
[04:14] <holstein> benkillin: unless you want to just do it on the router
[04:14] <benkillin> wut
[04:14] <kboodu> And the signature from connecting to the port will tell you it's ssh anyway.
[04:14] <benkillin> oh if you're natting sure
[04:15] <holstein> benkillin: forward literally whatever port you want through the router firewall to whatever port on the server.. the public facing port is not the one on the server
[04:15] <benkillin> I know
[04:15] <benkillin> I'm assuming a direct connection to the internet
[04:16] <benkillin> so assume you are connecting from a new device and between the time you last connected on a device that had the host key cached and the time you connected on the new device you got pwned
[04:16] <benkillin> most people aren't going to verify the key
[04:16] <benkillin> so its safer if you do move to a non default port on the actual box to make it less than 1024
[04:17] <benkillin> the benefits of moving the port is if you are directly on the internet and you dont want a bunch of traffic in your logs from the automated bots
[04:18] <Random832> i really don't think we should be encouraging people to not verify keys
[04:18] <Random832> if they care about security
[04:18] <benkillin> well I'm certainly not encouraging it but lets be realistic
[04:18] <Random832> i mean they even make those ascii art keys now
[04:19] <kboodu> It's sloppy security and will lead to people getting careless and could open themselves up to MITM.  We shouldn't really be discussing this for anyone reading through the logs later.
[04:19] <benkillin> its not slopy security to move ssh to a different port less than 1024
[04:20] <benkillin> the only thing sloppy is not checking the host key from a new device or ignoring a mismatch error
[04:20] <kboodu> To ignore the keys is, however.
[04:20] <reisio> it's not sloppy security, it's just silly :)
[04:21] <kboodu> It's laziness not to be watching for invalid keys coming from the server.  That's sloppy security.
[04:21] <Random832> to be fair there is a fine line between sloppy security and defense in depth, and you can't control your users 100%
[04:21] <benkillin> yes that's what I just said
[04:22]  * kboodu agrees with benkillin
[04:22] <benkillin> the original argument was it's a waste of time to move ssh to a different port
[04:22] <benkillin> I disagree with that
[04:22] <benkillin> for the reasons I've already stated
[04:22] <benkillin> ignoring host keys is a completely different argument
[04:22] <benkillin> and one I'm not making
[04:23] <benkillin> anyway, pz out
[04:23] <kboodu> However, moving to another port under 1024 still requires root (but you can just change the sshd.config).  It still doesn't gain you much other than a little obscurity.
[04:25] <benkillin> it adds just a little bit to the defense in depth posture and it makes  me feel like I accomplished something
[04:27] <Awaken> hm, why would moving ssh to a port under 1024 be more secure than one over 1024 ?
[04:28] <Awaken> surely it would be less secure as a lot of automated port scans just scan 1-1024 ?
[04:29] <nathanbz> how would i install the latest version of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fuse
[04:29] <nathanbz> when im on 10.04
[04:31] <holstein> nathanbz: 10.04 desktop/
[04:31] <holstein> ?
[04:31] <nathanbz> serer
[04:32] <holstein> nathanbz: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fuse/2.8.1-1.1ubuntu2
[04:32] <nathanbz> yeah i need 2.8.4+
[04:33] <holstein> nathanbz: might not be able to be supported in 10.04
[04:33] <holstein> nathanbz: you will look for a PPA, or build it on your own.. or upgrade
[04:33] <nathanbz> so i would have to rebuild from source instead ?
[04:33] <holstein> nathanbz: you could build it from the source, manually. assuming it can be run on 10.04
[04:33] <nathanbz> it can
[04:33] <holstein> nathanbz: i would confirm that.. kernel version.. dependencies.. etc
[04:34] <nathanbz> whats the command to get kernel version again
[04:35] <holstein> nathanbz: uname -a shoulc get you what you need
[04:35] <nathanbz> meh i have latest kernel
[04:35] <universal> how to restore opened tabs synced via firefox sync in another machine or a reinstalled machine ?
[04:35] <nathanbz> 3.9.3-
[04:36] <holstein> nathanbz: i have no idea what the requirements are for the version of fuse you want to run... but, you can check the source, and the requirements
[04:36] <insom> morning all
[04:36] <nathanbz> thre requirements are like 2.4.x
[04:37] <insom> I have a crazy idea guys... I was cleaning my house today, and I ran in to an old 80GB ipod
[04:37] <reisio> 80, nice
[04:37] <holstein> nathanbz: the requirements will be listed... the officially suppported version of fuse is in the repos.. if you want a newer version that is not supported, you are welcome to manaully install it
[04:37] <nathanbz> yeah
[04:37] <insom> I'm wondering if you guys happen to know if I can format with propper partitions and use it as a bootable ubuntu system?
[04:37] <nathanbz> I'm building it now from source
[04:38] <nathanbz> cant find a ppa :9
[04:38] <reisio> insom: know which gen/model?
[04:38] <insom> I believe 6th
[04:38] <insom> ipod video
[04:38] <holstein> insom: i would just load it up and see.. there is nothing about ubuntu/linux preventing it from being used as a mass storage USB device
[04:38] <insom> its an ugly clunky little guy
[04:39] <reisio> insom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ipodclassic120gb.jpg ?
[04:39] <insom> I was more curious if I can turn it into a native usb storage type deal
[04:39] <reisio> insom: you can probably do that by just plugging it in
[04:39] <holstein> insom: if the device is allowed to be used that way, yes
[04:39] <insom> that's part of the question also
[04:40] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPodLinux#Compatibility :/
[04:40] <holstein> the easy way to know is by plugging it in
[04:41] <insom> lol yeah about that
[04:42] <insom> when you're cleaning house and you stumble upon an ipod, what don't you find?
[04:44] <insom> reisio I appreciate the link, but I have no interest in using it as an actual ipod
[04:44] <insom> I basically want to turn it in to a thumb drive
[04:46] <danny4way> does anyone use cario dock?
[04:46] <r0x6a68> hm..
[04:46] <danny4way> I need help with it.
[04:47] <danny4way> How do I add custom applications on the dock?
[04:47] <danny4way> It seems like I can't just drag it from the application menu.
[04:47] <holstein> danny4way: seems? try it
[04:47] <danny4way> I did.
[04:47] <danny4way> But it didn't work.
[04:47] <christoffer> danny4way start the application and then right click to "lock to launcher"
[04:48] <koolmon10> question: does the x64 kernel for 13.04 support pae? is pae support even necessary under x64?
[04:48] <christoffer> danny4way perhaps I arrived late...missed your first comment about cario dock
[04:49] <danny4way> Yeah
[04:49] <danny4way> I can't.
[04:49] <christoffer> ok
[04:49] <reisio> insom: right... except you said you had :p no worries
[04:49] <theadmin> koolmon10: Uh. PAE is an extension for 32-bit machines that allows to use over 4GB of RAM.
[04:49] <danny4way> Now it's lock and I can't even change any exist software on the dock
[04:49] <theadmin> koolmon10: It's entirely unnecessary under 64-bit as it becomes useless
[04:49] <holstein> danny4way: you cant right click on it?
[04:49] <danny4way> Yeah
[04:50] <koolmon10> theadmin; that's what i thought. ive got someone trying to tell me i need pae support
[04:50] <holstein> danny4way: try as a different user.. reinstall the dock.. remove the config in your /home
[04:51] <danny4way> How does reinstalling the dock related to adding custom software?
[04:52] <koolmon10> is there anyway to fix this error on resume? could it be causing gradual performance decrease between resumes? http://imgur.com/eUknDhL.jpg
[04:52] <holstein> danny4way: its a suggestion you can ignore.. from me.. a volunteer.. i read that you are having issues since it is "locked" somehow.. and reinstalling it could be a "fix" if you have broken it
[04:52] <holstein> danny4way: if you test as another user, and it works, then the issue is in the config in your users /home (likely)
[04:52] <danny4way> No. Now it's fixed by clicking on lock again.
[04:53] <danny4way> Now I can change spots again.
[04:53] <danny4way> The only problem that I have right now is that  I can't add any custom apps.
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, I add to it by when an app is open there is a right click add to dock, some do some don't
[04:54] <danny4way> I actually want to use dock for short cut. Because built in side way dock is annoying sometimes. I am used to Mac docks.
[04:54] <danny4way> Oh oKya. I will try.
[04:55] <koolmon10> anyone?
[04:55] <danny4way> No. I can't wilee-nilee
[04:57] <danny4way> OH I see how to add now.
[04:57] <danny4way> I just solved it.
[04:57] <danny4way> Anyway, Thank you for suggestions guys.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Might have to do which dock image you use, here are a number of possibilities, I found one I like and just save the config per install.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> there*
[04:57] <koolmon10> is there anyway to fix this error on resume? could it be causing gradual performance decrease between resumes? http://imgur.com/eUknDhL.jpg
[05:12] <ciao> ciao
[05:12] <macwolf74> ._.
[05:12] <ciao> !list
[05:15] <acidrain> what a good way to 'terminally' (if you will) lower the bitrate of a mp3/wav file.  im attempting to create a website for a music label and i want to ensure that beats arent stolen. so ill stream them from the site in a lower bitrate and then when someone buys give them the high quality.
[05:15] <acidrain> anyways, any input will do.
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !it | ciao
[05:15] <reisio> acidrain: I'd recommend excerpts instead
[05:16] <reisio> who wants to download music that sounds like a toaster oven
[05:16] <reisio> ^ I'll tell you who
[05:16] <reisio> the kind of people who don't care if it sounds like a toaster oven
[05:16] <reisio> and therefore won't buy a better quality
[05:16] <rreed> acidrain, reisio has a major point there, from experience distributing music independently, that concept will kill the sales.
[05:16] <dr_willis> toaster tunes  for two to tango.
[05:17] <acidrain> reisio, ok, i like your idea, how can i manage to do this though? like grab a certain section of the audio file?
[05:17] <dr_willis> ffmpeg and mencoder can cut out a section and put it in a file
[05:18] <linux> can someone explain how to install something?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> linux: ask away mate
[05:18] <acidrain> dr_willis, i just cant find that much detail on ffmpeg to get a good idea on how to use it properly
[05:18] <dr_willis> linux:   sudo apt-get install somthing
[05:18] <acidrain> i see many examples, and man pages. but not good enough explanation
[05:18] <dr_willis> acidrain:  i alwaus just google for examples
[05:18] <linux> okay go in the directory or folder and sudo apt get install xxxx
[05:19] <linux> ??
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> linux: from terminal
[05:19] <linux> the mane of the file I want to install xxxx
[05:19] <acidrain> linux, no. from terminal
[05:19] <dr_willis> linux apt-get downloads the stuff from the internet.. no need to be in any directory
[05:19] <dr_willis> !apt | linux
[05:19] <linux> yes sure in the terminal. think I have it , i'll be right back in case it does not work. Have you installed frostwire in linux?
[05:19] <rreed> acidrain, Audacity is extremely simple for what you're trying to do.
[05:19] <rreed> ah, he left.
[05:20] <linux> I am trying to do that with deb package.
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> linux: you can install .deb files also with software centre
[05:20] <dr_willis> linux then you should have stated the details to begin with
[05:20] <linux> I did search for it in pkg manager but unsucessful?
[05:20] <dr_willis> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:20] <dr_willis> or 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'
[05:21] <dr_willis> or just double click on the .deb
[05:21] <dr_willis> what is In the deb exactly?
[05:21] <linux> do not know what that means foo see it alot
[05:21] <dr_willis> think about it....foo = an example generic name...
[05:21] <linux> I am getting the download now . do not know yet.
[05:22] <dr_willis> linux the download? WHAT are you downloading?
[05:22] <holstein> linux: you can replace xxxx with foo.. its a variable, as you have used
[05:22] <linux> It says frostwire.all.2.deb something. just click on it?
[05:22] <dr_willis> !frostwire
[05:23] <dr_willis> linux or use one of the commands given abocce
[05:23] <dr_willis> above
[05:23] <dr_willis> i would suggest other torrent clients however
[05:23] <linux> yes it gives option to open in package manager but does not seem to be opening. may need to sudo like you said.
[05:24] <dr_willis> package manager should have a big INSTALL butto at the right side..
[05:24] <linux> how do you scroll on this screen/ i lost the command at the top?
[05:24] <rreed> dr_willis, It's actually not just for torrents, complete p2p network where you can search the music, video, etc. directly.
[05:24] <dr_willis> rreed:  and its so 2004-ish ;)
[05:24] <linux> intall button, looking for that oen.
[05:24] <dr_willis> actually its also needs java dosent it?
[05:25] <rreed> hahaha, exactly. totally forgot it existed; wonder what ever happened to limewire.
[05:25] <holstein> linux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Using_GDebi_to_install_packages for example
[05:25] <linux> it did open and I am running the install in pkg manager.
[05:25] <dr_willis> all the p2p companies got bought out or gobbled up in the lawsuits of 2008? or so.. ;)
[05:26] <dr_willis> linux - why are you wanting to use limeiwire anyway?
[05:26] <linux> got that holstein thanks.
[05:26] <rreed> yea, that's what i'm seeing. i have no idea how i missed all that :D
[05:27] <linux> I found it was great , all kinds of music just some of the dls are crappy quality. free.
[05:27] <ximitimix> any one here feel like helping me with a networking issue?
[05:27] <dr_willis> well just rember - free is not always ; 'legal'  ;)
[05:28] <linux> no I want to use frostwire!
[05:28] <linux> it is frostwore dr willis. not limewire
[05:28] <dr_willis> linux the 2 are the same basically, one is a spinoff of the other.
[05:28] <holstein> linux: use what you want..
[05:28] <Sk1Special> do you not have a reliable internet connection or data with a cell phone?
[05:29] <linux> yes i know but i have not used much sharing on the network. been out of it.
[05:29] <Sk1Special> youtube/playlist.com/iheaertradio/etc etc etc
[05:29] <linux> what is the latest available for free?
[05:29] <dr_willis> linux im suprised limewire, or frostwire still exist...  they are rather old out dated apps these days.
[05:29] <Sk1Special> iheartradio and playlist.com are good.. so is xbox music on pc. tho thats 10 a month for the full version
[05:30] <linux> point is that it plays music right off the bat. Just install. Have a sound card and puts files on the hdd for later.
[05:30] <dr_willis> dozens of free music streaming music services out there.
[05:30] <reisio> linux: try deluge
[05:30] <cynicist> acidrain: hey I was just curious about that myself since you brought it up and found a page you might be interested in reading about it, http://blog.yimingliu.com/2008/10/07/ffmpeg-encoding-gotchas/
[05:31] <astral> hi guys I just installed 13.04 and I am having troubles connecting to my WPA router. However I can connect to my neighbours router which is also using WPA. I have broadcom wifi card with STA drivers. router logs says "could not find DHCP daemon to get information" and bunch of "send request, request ip=<IP_ADDRESS>" messages. what could be the cause of this?
[05:31] <cynicist> acidrain: by 'it' I mean cutting out portions of audio without re-encoding
[05:31] <Senor> ls : cannot access /usr/lib*/librt.so*: No such file or directory
[05:31] <Senor> how to fix this problem?
[05:32] <dr_willis> !find librt.so
[05:32] <utfans05> Senor, that means you dont have that directory.
[05:32] <reisio> cynicist: he's gone mon ami
[05:32] <reisio> cynicist: /msg memoserv send acidrain dudez...
[05:32] <cynicist> ah I have join/part messages turned off -_-
[05:33] <dr_willis> Senor:  try using tab completion, to fill in directories and names.. instead of  overkill use of * wildcards
[05:33] <reisio> cynicist: you typing his nick out or completing?
[05:33] <dr_willis> !tab
[05:33] <linux> it is finally installign. Something was not trusted. i ran it.
[05:33] <linux> source
[05:33] <cynicist> reisio: typing
[05:33] <dr_willis> linux thats bcasue you dident get it fromt he repos. but downloaded the .deb from a site
[05:33] <reisio> cynicist: type r, e, i, then hit TAB :)
[05:34] <cynicist> reisio, 0_o
[05:34] <reisio> and I type c, then y, then TAB
[05:34] <reisio> cynicist: bazinga!
[05:34] <dr_willis> tab key is our friend.
[05:34] <reisio> on IRC and in a terminal
[05:34] <cynicist> why does it append a comma?
[05:34] <reisio> and most places
[05:34] <ximitimix> anyone here know anything about local dns
[05:34] <reisio> cynicist: it's tradition to delimit the nickname
[05:34] <dr_willis> cynicist:  beayse your irc client tells it to
[05:34] <reisio> cynicist: although colons are the chosen delimter and not commas :p
[05:34] <linux> Mean the source site? The repos ?
[05:34] <reisio> cynicist: you can change it in prefs if you want :p
[05:34] <cynicist> I love TAB in the terminal I just didn't realize it was equally awesome in irc
[05:35] <reisio> mmm :)
[05:35] <dr_willis> linux yes.
[05:35] <cynicist> reisio: thanks for the tip! <3
[05:35] <dr_willis> !repos
[05:35] <reisio> cynicist: also helps you to know someone has left, heh
[05:35] <reisio> or, sometimes, helps you to tab-complete to some random person's name 'cause the other guy left :p
[05:35] <cynicist> reisio: honestly that is brilliant lol ty
[05:35] <linux> Okay , may be some bad code in there. i will get virus then and have to reinstall.
[05:36] <dr_willis> !virus | linux
[05:36] <reisio> kind of like how if you can't tab-complete a path in a terminal, it doesn't exist
[05:36] <reisio> which is useful information
[05:36] <dr_willis> linux you are thinking in a 'windows mindset'
[05:36] <linux> Not too much virus I have heard about in unix /linux
[05:36] <linux> all i got is windows mindset!  You wouldnt believe how mch faster now.
[05:37] <reisio> viruses are only one type of badware
[05:37] <reisio> if you're paranoid, look into AIDE
[05:37] <linux> I can actually enter info in the keyboard.
[05:37] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Intrusion_Detection_Environment
[05:37] <linux> was about 20 wpm
[05:37] <astral> can anyone help me, my wifi is really poor now because of this
[05:38] <dr_willis> at least when you install stuff in linux, you dont have to fight to keep 10+ differnt toolbars of other crud from installing - like you do in windows..
[05:38] <dr_willis> bbl. got a job to do.
[05:38] <linux> That is because everyone looks out for it. Windows no one cares!
[05:38] <theadmin> astral: Define "this".
[05:39] <linux> Go figure , you pay and get virus and for free you are safe?
[05:39] <reisio> well that and because package management is... well, extant
 hi guys I just installed 13.04 and I am having troubles connecting to my WPA router. However I can connect to my neighbours router which is also using WPA. I have broadcom wifi card with STA drivers. router logs says "could not find DHCP daemon to get information" and bunch of "send request, request ip=<IP_ADDRESS>" messages. what could be the cause of this?
[05:39] <linux> i do have issue with the wifi connection. Have dell 1390 mini card and the driver is proprietary. knoiw a fix?
[05:40] <theadmin> astral: Maybe your router can't into DHCP? Do you need to configure a static IP?
[05:40] <theadmin> Though I don't know any routers that don't support dhcp...
[05:41] <astral> it supports dhcp of course. can I use static even if dhcp is set?
[05:42] <DuncanNZ> astral: yes you can
[05:42] <astral> let me try
[05:42] <astral> brb
[05:42] <DuncanNZ> although you don't want your manual address to conflict with anyone's DHCP address, so it's best to put it in a different address range
[05:42] <blazemore> linux: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer; sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:43] <UBUNTU-ROOK> Has anyone had an Nvidia with hdmi act as main soundcard and ignore usb x-fi as the soundcard default?
[05:43] <linux> Okay.
[05:43] <UBUNTU-ROOK> and if so how can i make usb default
[05:44] <theadmin> UBUNTU-ROOK: That's happened to me. Click the volume icon, choose "Sound settings" and then select the desired device in the "Play sound through" list.
[05:44] <theadmin> UBUNTU-ROOK: Apply the same for the "Input" tab if necessary.
[05:44] <UBUNTU-ROOK> that list is actually blank
[05:44] <theadmin> ...huh.
[05:44] <theadmin> UBUNTU-ROOK: You do have Pulseaudio installed, right?
[05:45] <UBUNTU-ROOK> 13.04 default
[05:45] <UBUNTU-ROOK> i can see it in alsamixer
[05:45] <theadmin> Well, then hit F6 in alsamixer and select the card, UBUNTU-ROOK
[05:45] <UBUNTU-ROOK> it shows both nvidia and creative usb
[05:46] <UBUNTU-ROOK> i have but still no sound
[05:46] <theadmin> Hm... hamsters.
[05:46] <theadmin> I've no idea then
[05:46] <UBUNTU-ROOK> x-fi used to work on 12.04 for me
[05:47] <UBUNTU-ROOK> 13.04 seems different
[05:47] <astral> no luck it just gives me back the network key dialog again. and there's nothing in the router logs now
[05:48] <coz_> hey guys. I am on 13.04 with nvidia g73 and cannot enable fastwrites and SBA. Any suggestions or solutions?
[05:48] <UBUNTU-ROOK> thanks
[05:49] <astral> can this be driver issue?
[05:50] <theadmin> astral: Well, in theory, but it's very odd that it works with another network.
[05:50] <astral> how can I troubleshoot this? are there any logs from trying to connect to wifi?
[05:51] <utfans05> Which network manager are you using astral
[05:51] <astral> ubuntu's default, I just installed 13.04
[05:52] <utfans05> try getting wicd and see if that fixes your issue. its another network manager.
[05:53] <astral> will try. are there any logs from wicd in case it fails too?
[05:53] <Senor> ls : cannot access /usr/lib*/librt.so*: No such file or directory
[05:53] <Senor> this is reported at compilation time
[05:53] <Senor> for ACE
[05:55] <blazemore> !details Senor what are you trying to do?
[05:56] <blazemore> !details | Senor what are you trying to do?
[05:56] <utfans05> astral, just about everything for linux has logs if something is going wrong.
[05:57] <universal> how to restore opened tabs synced via firefox sync in another machine or a reinstalled machine ?
[05:57] <astral> I assume they will be in /var/logs or ~/.wicd ?
[05:58] <utfans05> astral, yes
[05:59] <cynicist> astral: this may help you with NetworkManager (the default one), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager
[05:59] <universal> anyone ?
[05:59] <ggabriel96> hello guys
[05:59] <astral> i cannot start wicd: Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.
[05:59] <utfans05> !patience | universal
[06:00] <ggabriel96> hey guys, i was installing the nvidia driver with additional drivers, but my pc suddenly turned off and now i can't see unity
[06:00] <ggabriel96> (im running live usb right now)
[06:00] <ggabriel96> is there a way to fix this? ;/
[06:01] <universal> utfans05: ok
[06:01] <utfans05> ggabriel96, you need to get into one of your tty's you can do this by pressing CTRL+F1, log in and then reinstall the nvidia packages you were installing.
[06:01] <ggabriel96> what is a tty?
[06:01] <utfans05> ggabriel96, is it a command line
[06:01] <ggabriel96> oh
[06:02] <utfans05> like terminal
[06:02] <utfans05> but built in by default.
[06:02] <ggabriel96> i hit ctrl+f1 and then ill have to install nvidia through command line?
[06:02] <utfans05> yes
[06:02] <ggabriel96> oh idk how to do that ;x
[06:02] <utfans05> once you do that you should have access to your system.
[06:02] <utfans05> apt-get install nvidia-common
[06:02] <utfans05> sudo apt-get install nvidia-common
[06:02] <ggabriel96> will it install locally, normally?
[06:03] <astral> I'm constantly getting these in syslog: "kernel: [ 3151.292988] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_station : Wrong Mac address" how can it be wrong??
[06:03] <utfans05> yes.
[06:03] <ggabriel96> and what version of the driver will it install?
[06:03] <utfans05> make sure you reboot into the os on your hard drive.
[06:03] <ggabriel96> yes, into ubuntu
[06:03] <utfans05> when you use nvidia-current it will give you the most recent stable release.
[06:03] <ggabriel96> ah
[06:03] <ggabriel96> so sudo apt-get install nvidia-current?
[06:03] <utfans05> yes
[06:04] <ggabriel96> ctrl+f1 does nothing
[06:04] <theadmin> ggabriel96: Ctrl-Alt-F1
[06:04] <bItc01D>
[06:05] <utfans05> yeah ctrl+alt+F1 sorry.
[06:06] <utfans05> bItc01D, i didnt see anything you typed.
[06:07] <theadmin> utfans05: It's because it's a message consisting of whitespace
[06:07] <theadmin> utfans05: lol
[06:07] <utfans05> theadmin, thats what i thought but just making sure he didnt mean to say something.
[06:08] <ggabriel96_> ah damn firefox crashed
[06:08] <ggabriel96_> utfans05: u there?
[06:08] <utfans05> yup
[06:08] <utfans05> all night!
[06:08] <ggabriel96_> sorry
[06:08] <ggabriel96_> hehe ^^
[06:08] <ggabriel96_> so
[06:08] <ggabriel96_> ctrl+f1 does nothing
[06:08] <FloodBot1> ggabriel96_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:08] <utfans05> ctrl+alt+f1
[06:08] <utfans05> it did it again to him LOL
[06:10] <netlar> Projects that are in launchpad are peer reviewed?
[06:11] <red27> welcome.. ^_^
[06:11] <theadmin> netlar: Nope, it's a hosting platform for FOSS projects, anyone can upload anything
[06:11] <theadmin> netlar: Well I suppose malicious projects are removed, but...
[06:11] <utfans05> well i would hope the malicous ones are removed.
[06:11] <netlar> theadmin: they get reviewed before ending up in the repository?
[06:11] <kickass> can i use  to run .apk  files in ubuntu
[06:11] <theadmin> netlar: They don't end up in official repositories at all.
[06:12] <theadmin> kickass: There's an Android emulator called "Genymotion", you can use that.
[06:12] <netlar> theadmin: how come
[06:12] <Senor> ubottu:I am compiling a networking c++ framework on ubuntu server 12.4
[06:12] <theadmin> netlar: If they are submitted to the Software Centre, yes, they are reviewed.
[06:12] <theadmin> netlar: But Launchpad stuff doesn't automagically end up in the repos
[06:12] <netlar> theadmin: oh that is another process
[06:13] <netlar> theadmin: I want to get involved in a project, not sure where to start
[06:13] <kickass> unable to locate package genymotion
[06:13] <theadmin> netlar: Yes, you need to submit your app to http://developer.ubuntu.com/ for it to end up in the official repos, you can either upload a source tarball directly or specify a Launchpad PPA.
[06:13] <curious_george> hi derek jeter, you bunt, too?
[06:14] <theadmin> kickass: It's not in the repositories, it's a fairly new project -- see http://genymotion.com
[06:14] <netlar> theadmin: so I can start it in launchpad first
[06:14] <theadmin> netlar: For sure, it's probably the best if it's opensource
[06:15] <netlar> theadmin: I jsut read that it is best to have it reviewed early and often
[06:15] <theadmin> netlar: Well you can submit early versions, sure. As long as they work and don't do bad things :D You can update your submission later
[06:16] <theadmin> netlar: And if you submit through Launchpad, you don't have to bother, it will update as soon as LP builds a new package
[06:16] <netlar> theadmin: But until I submit it to ubuntu it will not be reviewed
[06:17] <theadmin> netlar: Right. I think.
[06:17] <netlar> ok
[06:18] <rodrigo91> im confused which option do i choose
[06:18] <rodrigo91> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[06:19] <kickass> can i use  to run .jar files in ubuntu
[06:19] <hdon> hi all :) can anyone using a proprietary nvidia driver tell me their ubuntu version and which version of the driver they have? (i want to know if upgrading will get me the newer nvidia driver)
[06:19] <theadmin> kickass: Yes, just install Java.
[06:19] <mumpitzel> java -jar <jar file>
[06:19] <hdon> (you can use nvidia-settings to see your nvidia driver version)
[06:20] <utfans05> !nvidia
[06:20] <kickass> unable to locate package java
[06:20] <goddard> are firefox bookmakrs stored some where in the home directory?
[06:20] <theadmin> kickass: openjdk-7-jre
[06:20] <netlar> theadmin: So if I want an application to be on another distro, I have to submit it to their software center seperatly
[06:20] <mumpitzel> !java | kickass
[06:21] <theadmin> netlar: Not all distros have submissions as easily open as Ubuntu
[06:21] <mumpitzel> hdon: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and search for "nvidia" for the version of your choice
[06:21] <theadmin> netlar: But in general, yes
[06:21] <netlar> theadmin: that is an eye opener, why would they make it difficult
[06:21] <theadmin> netlar: Eh. Not sure.
[06:21] <mumpitzel> netlar: they have quality standards
[06:21] <hdon> mumpitzel, thanks. also thank utfans05
[06:22] <netlar> ok, ubuntu does not?
[06:22] <rodrigo91> anybody know how i can install madwifi drivers
[06:22] <theadmin> netlar: Sure does, but... still much more open to new developers
[06:22] <utfans05> anytime
[06:22] <rodrigo91> i got this from a search https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[06:23] <mumpitzel> hdon: launchpad is not part of ubunut. ubuntu has ppas which everyone can create and use, but that doesn't mean it's part of ubuntu or gets any support. just like you can put something on laucnhpad, you can use github, sourceforge, etc
[06:23] <goddard> are firefox bookmakrs stored some where in the home directory?
[06:23] <netlar> theadmin: good to know, made Ubuntu more of my fav distro
[06:23] <theadmin> goddard: ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[06:23] <mumpitzel> rodrigo91: you shouldn't use or need madwifi drivers. ath5k and ath9k should be what you want. which are available by default
[06:23] <hdon> the link utfans05  gave me lead me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia which lists several packages whose names contain the string "nvidia-graphics-drivers" but in the link from mumpitzel http://packages.ubuntu.com/ my search for nvidia-graphics-drivers yielded no results
[06:24] <bItc01D> how can i hide messages like "nevyn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined  | _deXter_
[06:24] <bItc01D>                    | #ubuntu
[06:24] <bItc01D> I'm using weechat
[06:24] <hdon> mumpitzel, oh
[06:24] <hdon> i might not have the right ppa
[06:24] <utfans05> hdon when you install nvidia-current you will get the most current stable nvidia release.
[06:24] <hdon> (ppa's are just apt sources right?)
[06:24] <mumpitzel> hdon: sorry, that was for netlar
[06:24] <hdon> ah ok
[06:24] <rodrigo91> but i wanna test my card to do a little experiment
[06:24] <mumpitzel> hdon: you probably don't need a ppa. what videocard is it and why do you want newer drivers?
[06:25] <mumpitzel> rodrigo91: madwifi hasn't been updated in literally years. it's an abandoned project for a long time now
[06:25] <mumpitzel> not sure if it would even work with current kernels
[06:25] <rodrigo91> for what do i use aircrack with
[06:26] <rodrigo91> i have to inject
[06:26] <goddard> theadmin: it has json backups of the bookmarks but firefox only imports html
[06:26] <mumpitzel> rodrigo91: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=ath5k for example.
[06:27] <theadmin> goddard: You can probably somehow export from within Firefox?
[06:27] <hdon> mumpitzel, i've upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 a while back, and haven't had time to fix an issue i started having with it. my system freezes up for 2-12 seconds at a time when running more than one opengl application, or running an opengl application and firefox or chrome (maybe flash player?)
[06:27] <hdon> mumpitzel, so i thought i'd investigate updating the driver
[06:27] <theadmin> goddard: Actually, you can use those files as well. Bookmarks -> Show all bookmarks -> Import and Backup -> Restore -> Choose file...
[06:28] <mumpitzel> hdon: what videocard?
[06:28] <hdon> mumpitzel, it's become important for me to fix it now though because i'm often running blender, my own opengl applications, and web browsers. too inconvenient to ignore now
[06:28] <hdon> mumpitzel, GeForce 9600 GT. it's not one of the "legacy" models listed on nvidia's site
[06:30] <ggabriel96> hey utfans05 u there?
[06:31] <hdon> is nouveaux any good?
[06:31] <hdon> nouveau
[06:31] <ggabriel96> if u dont need that much of performance
[06:31] <ggabriel96> i think so
[06:32] <utfans05> yes im here.
[06:32] <ggabriel96> ~that didnt work
[06:32] <ggabriel96> first i did that sudo apt-get install nvidia-current while in the live usb
[06:32] <ggabriel96> (what a fail)
[06:33] <ggabriel96> that didnt work obviously
[06:33] <utfans05> yeh.... needs to be for the os
[06:33] <ggabriel96> then i booted into my os
[06:33] <ggabriel96> the locally installed
[06:33] <ggabriel96> and did that
[06:33] <ggabriel96> and didnt work to
[06:33] <utfans05> did you reboot after install?
[06:33] <ggabriel96> too*. now i did sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*
[06:33] <ggabriel96> yes i rebooted ofc
[06:33] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: what videocard?
[06:33] <ggabriel96> i thought that a purge would get nouveau back and everything would be fine
[06:34] <ggabriel96> but it still doesnt show up
[06:34] <ggabriel96> nvidia geforce 8600m gt
[06:34] <utfans05> hrm. it should have
[06:34] <ggabriel96> the problem is that i was installing nvidia driver with additional drivers and my pc turned off suddenly
[06:34] <utfans05> can you check /etc/X11/xorg/
[06:34] <utfans05> and look for some logs
[06:34] <ggabriel96> now i cant see my system
[06:34] <ggabriel96> momment
[06:34] <utfans05> or check in /var/log and see.
[06:34] <chaosanon> Hi everyone i was wondering if anyone had a fix for fglrx not working with kernel 3.10 any help would be appricaited.
[06:34] <ggabriel96> what file
[06:35] <ggabriel96> xorg.0.log?
[06:36] <utfans05> yes
[06:36] <ggabriel96> what command i use to open it
[06:36] <ggabriel96> gedit?
[06:36] <theadmin> chaosanon: 3.10 is not a supported kernel.
[06:36] <utfans05> vim or vi or nana
[06:36] <utfans05> nano*
[06:36] <theadmin> ggabriel96: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:37] <theadmin> ggabriel96: It'll give you a URL you can paste here
[06:37] <kickass> Hello there , just now i installed xampp using wine  , it works fine until last and generates error . help me
[06:37] <ggabriel96> oh
[06:37] <theadmin> kickass: ...XAMPP has a Linux version
[06:37] <MsCourtney> Hi, after restarting my sister's computer I can't see the login screen, I get a black screen with some text.
[06:37] <mumpitzel> theadmin: bad idea
[06:37] <ggabriel96> i gotta install it
[06:38] <mr_ksco> .....
[06:38] <mumpitzel> kickass: install lamp via ubuntu repos
[06:38] <rodrigo91> mumpitzel is that driver preinstalled or do i have to install it manually
[06:38] <kickass> theadmin : i have only exe file
[06:38] <chaosanon> ok thanks do you know when it will become supported by chance?
[06:38] <mumpitzel> rodrigo91: which one?
[06:38] <theadmin> kickass: Then download the Linux version.
[06:38] <theadmin> kickass: WINE isn't supported.
[06:38] <mumpitzel> kickass: don't use XAMPP on linux. that's like bringing owls to athens
[06:38] <theadmin> mumpitzel: Why?
[06:38] <kickass> mumpitzel:Is lamp same as xampp
[06:38] <mumpitzel> !lamp
[06:38] <ggabriel96> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5935417/
[06:39] <mumpitzel> kickass: no it's not. Ubuntu LAMP has security updates and is integrated into ubuntu. XAMPP is not.
[06:39] <MsCourtney> How can I fix the black screen thing, I really want to fix it before she notices?
[06:39] <hdon> MsCourtney, what is the text?
[06:39] <ggabriel96> what does the log say? ;x
[06:39] <hdon> MsCourtney, do you know what a VT is?
[06:40] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: it says "all is fine"
[06:40] <ggabriel96> what cant i see unity then? ;/
[06:40] <ggabriel96> why*
[06:41] <rodrigo91> mumpitzel ath9k well thats what it says is good for astheros based cards
[06:41] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[06:41] <mumpitzel> rodrigo91: it's part of the kernel, yes
[06:41] <ggabriel96> nothing output
[06:41] <rodrigo91> can you give me a link to an injection test
[06:41] <MsCourtney> hdon: The text is "Ubuntu 13.04  Emily-Laptop tty7"
[06:42] <mumpitzel> rodrigo91: no. cracking is against freenode TOS too
[06:42] <mumpitzel> hdon: log in and run "startx"
[06:42] <rodrigo91> im not doing anything illegally i just wanna see if i can crack my card
[06:42] <MsCourtney> hdon: The next line is "Emily-Laptop login:"
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> MsCourtney: press ctrl-alt-f(then cycle through the f keys)
[06:43] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: nothing as output
[06:44] <ksco> ...
[06:44] <MsCourtney> aeon-ltd: Same black screen but it changes like tty1 ,2,3,4 etc
[06:44] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: shouldn't be, it should show how nvidia was installed before
[06:45] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: oh, you have purged nvidia packages?
[06:45] <hdon> MsCourtney, try hold ALT key and pressing the left/right arrows. see if you can find the desktop
[06:45] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: yes
[06:46] <MsCourtney> hdon: No, again the number changes only
[06:47] <hdon> MsCourtney, have you tried rebooting? it seems like X isn't starting
[06:48] <MsCourtney> hdon: Yes I reset it multiple times, same issue. It was just working, when I rebooted it it started this.
[06:49] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: only way to solve is reinstalling ubuntu?
[06:49] <hdon> MsCourtney, do you have administrative login credentials to the system?
[06:49] <MsCourtney> I really want to get this sorted as it isn't my computer.
[06:49] <MsCourtney> hdon: Yes
[06:49] <hdon> MsCourtney, could you login?
[06:50] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: sudo service lightdm start
[06:50] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: what happens if you start the displaymanager like this?
[06:51] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: sudo service lightdm start? it says already running
[06:51] <grinwoody> After using parted magic and then subsequently installing ubuntu using a live usb how do i stop parted magic from booting and instead booting into ubuntu?
[06:52] <hdon> MsCourtney, you're sure if you hold ALT and press the left/right arrow keys, you can't find the desktop? does it loop?
[06:52] <MsCourtney> hdon: It now says "Emily@Emily-laptop~$"
[06:52] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: what about the first answer to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285571/ubuntu-13-04-fail-to-start-after-installing-nvidia-drivers-vostro-laptop
[06:53] <hdon> MsCourtney, "Emily@Emily-laptop~$" is your shell prompt. it's waiting for you to enter a command.
[06:53] <MsCourtney> hdon: Yes it loops
[06:53] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: or this http://askubuntu.com/questions/204428/unity-missing-cant-see-top-or-side-panels
[06:53] <hdon> MsCourtney, ok, going back to the shell prompt, enter the command "ps ax | grep /usr/bin/X"
[06:53] <hdon> MsCourtney, the | symbol on most keyboards is made with Shift+Backslash
[06:53] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: this is what you already did: removed nvidia drivers and restarted X
[06:53] <elpidios2> hello
[06:54] <elpidios2> I want to ask a question
[06:54] <hdon> MsCourtney, make sure you use forward slashes in /usr/bin/X
[06:54] <ggabriel96> hmm ;/
[06:54] <MsCourtney> mumpitzel: lightdm: unrecognized service
[06:54] <elpidios2> is it possible to make somehow my ubuntu (from terminal) every 30 minutes to put automatically a command?
[06:54] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: have you started lightdm as I said?
[06:54] <hdon> MsCourtney, whoa
[06:55] <mumpitzel> elpidios2: yes, with cron
[06:55] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: yes, it says already running
[06:55] <mumpitzel> grinwoody: and ctrl+alt+f7 shows you what?
[06:55] <elpidios2> yes that command i have its cron command
[06:55] <topke> does anyone know
[06:56] <MsCourtney> hdon: 3887 pts/2  0:00 grep --color=auto /usr/bin/Xsdwer
[06:56] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: i think i will reinstall ubuntu tomorrow
[06:56] <MsCourtney> something like that is oputput
[06:56] <hdon> MsCourtney, what about "ls /usr/bin/Xorg"
[06:56] <hdon> MsCourtney, "ls" is LS lowercased
[06:56] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: just let me ask u something. i have chose to encrypt my home folder during the installation, and in the first boot, a message saying th swap was not ready appeared
[06:57] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: but then everything loaded and booted normally and i dont see that anymore
[06:57] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: so everything's fine, right?
[06:57] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: yes
[06:57] <MsCourtney> hdon: "/usr/bin/Xorg"
[06:57] <topke> i have a problem whit mint when i boot it via usb it says its running in fallback mode and i cant install it properly
[06:57] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: ok. the last thing: i did a sudo apt-get install nvidia-current on the live usb, is there a problem with that?
[06:58] <inerkick> I have this error when updating my ubuntu 12.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5935446/
[06:58] <inerkick> kindly help
[06:58] <mumpitzel> ggabriel96: no problem. might even work and be of course gone after a reboot
[06:59] <hdon> MsCourtney, does the command "dpkg -L lightdm" list a bunch of files or does it say lightdm is not installed?
[06:59] <mumpitzel> inerkick: what's in your sources.list?
[06:59] <ggabriel96> mumpitzel: oh, ok. thank u, utfans05 and everyone for ur support. cya later guys, gn!
[06:59] <MsCourtney> hdon: Not installed
[07:00] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1  and dpkg -l xorg | tail -1
[07:00] <hdon> MsCourtney, hmm, was your system maybe going through a software update and got unplugged or something?
[07:00] <inerkick> have to check mumixam
[07:00] <hdon> mumpitzel, you think she has no libc?
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> !mint | topke
[07:01] <Grinwoody_> Q: After using parted magic to format and then subsequently installing ubuntu using a live usb how do i stop parted magic from booting and instead boot to ubuntu?
[07:01] <inerkick> where to find the sources list mumpitzel
[07:01] <mumpitzel> hdon: I want to know what OS she has installed
[07:01] <elpidios2> i have to do that ?
[07:01] <elpidios2> crontab -e
[07:01] <MsCourtney> hdon: It was a normal reboot, I did install and remove some stuff in software center and delete some unwanted files before restarting
[07:02] <elpidios2> and after... */30 * * * * /path/to/your/command
[07:02] <elpidios2> ?
[07:02] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: how did you use parted magic? Live cd, USB?
[07:02] <hdon> mumpitzel, ahh
[07:02] <hdon> MsCourtney, you should have started with that information when you came here
[07:03] <topke> @ubottu ok but since its same platform in basic and karnel i thought u might have same problems
[07:03] <Grinwoody_> Wizrd. I used a live usb and used 64 bit option
[07:03] <hdon> MsCourtney, i don't know which packages ended up being accidentally uninstalled, but i'm sure someone with more knowledge can get your desktop back
[07:03] <mumpitzel> topke: it's not the same. either use mint support channels or go to ##linux.
[07:04] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: I'd start with apt-get install xorg ubuntu-desktop
[07:04] <topke> no problem im about to conn to them
[07:04] <MsCourtney> hdon: Sorry, didn't think it was relevant. I use Windows normally so I'm not really familiar. This isn't my computer and I want to get it working as quick as possible
[07:04] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: did you remove the usb drive before booting?
[07:05] <hdon> MsCourtney, windows' vendor doesn't intend you to uninstall your desktop environment, so it's harder to do it accidentally
[07:05] <MsCourtney> mumpitzel: apt-get: command not found
[07:06] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: reinstall ubuntu then
[07:06] <MsCourtney> hdon: I think I am aware of that, but what I uninstalled was mostly unused programs like games
[07:06] <Grinwoody_> Wizrd. Yes but it still boots to partition manager
[07:07] <hdon> no apt-get command??
[07:07] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: something is not right. removing apt-get is almost not possible
[07:07] <MsCourtney> mumpitzel: Can I do that and keep the files and settings and make it exactly as it was before?
[07:07] <MsCourtney> hdon: No
[07:07] <hdon> MsCourtney, what does "dpkg -L apt" tell you?
[07:07] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: do you get any error messages when it wants to boot to gparted?
[07:07] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: sudo /usr/bin/apt-get install xorg ubuntu-desktop
[07:07] <MsCourtney> mumpitzel: I've used apt-get in Konsole before and it worked
[07:08]  * hdon hopes it's a PATH issue
[07:09] <hdon> but how... could PATH not include /usr/bin... impossible
[07:09] <MsCourtney> mumpitzel: sudo: /usr/bin/apt-get: command not found
[07:09] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. I had to disable my asrock sata through my bios to run both live usb. I just enabled it and removed the usb and i get error insert boot media. However when i try reinstalling ubuntu it recognizes as already installed.
[07:09] <mumpitzel> then what did you do that it doesn't work now but worked before?
[07:09] <hdon> MsCourtney, apt is the most important part of package management. this is something someone would do to your system if they hated you.
[07:09] <mumpitzel> Grinwoody_: where have you installed ubuntu?
[07:10] <MsCourtney> Is this because I installed and uninstalled stuff (also updated) or something else?
[07:10] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. I ran the defaul installer option onto my hd
[07:10] <hdon> MsCourtney, i've never heard of it happening because of that.
[07:10] <hdon> i've actually never heard of this happening
[07:10] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: no. removing the apt package is very hard. you really notice it when you want to do that
[07:10] <ikonia> MsCourtney: can you please show me the output of "uname -a" please
[07:11] <MsCourtney> ikonia: Something like "Linux Emily-Laptop ...Ubuntu SMP ...x86_64 GNU/LINUX
[07:12] <ikonia> MsCourtney: no, please show me exactly
[07:12] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: not "something". please paste the exact output.
[07:12] <ikonia> not "something like"
[07:12] <MsCourtney> ok its a bit long to type
[07:13] <chunkyhead> is there a way to install linux on a system without livedisk
[07:13] <inerkick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5935486/ When I do sudo apt-get update
[07:13] <ikonia> chunkyhead: what version of linux ?
[07:13] <chunkyhead> ikonia: ubuntu
[07:13] <MsCourtney> ikonia: Linux Emily-Laptop 3.8.0-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue May 14 22:16:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: what do you mean without livedisk?
[07:14] <ikonia> !install | chunkyhead
[07:14] <inerkick> paste.ubuntu.com/5935489/ this is the error
[07:14] <inerkick> when updating ubuntu 12.10
[07:14] <ikonia> inerkick: you already posted that
[07:14] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd: my usb drives are not working and i dont have a cdrom :)
[07:14] <ikonia> chunkyhead: then no, you'd have to setup a pxe install, buy a new usb or cdrom
[07:15] <MsCourtney> Someone elsewhere says to do a "filesystem check".. How do I do that?
[07:15] <dolphin-man> hello
[07:15] <inerkick> this one got few more errors in it ikonia
[07:15] <ikonia> MsCourtney: ls -la /usr/bin/apt-get please
[07:15] <chunkyhead> ikonia: what is pxe install
[07:15] <ikonia> chunkyhead: a huge ammount of effort to setup including 2 machines
[07:15] <dolphin-man> For some reason when I torrent on my Ubuntu partition the download rate is capped at 10 kb/s - 12 kb/s
[07:15] <dolphin-man> but when I boot windows the dl rate is normal, so it seems something is wrong with Ubuntu
[07:15] <dolphin-man> any ideas?
[07:15] <chunkyhead> ikonia: booting from network is an option? PS: let me google
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> inerkick, pastebin the text from running cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: 'surrogate' install? move the harddrive to a machine with the same hardware then install?
[07:16] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: Grub is loading?
[07:16] <ikonia> inerkick: your dns is not working
[07:16] <hdon> dolphin-man, torrent client settings
[07:16] <MsCourtney> ikonia: ls: cannot access please: No such file ordirectory
[07:16] <ikonia> MsCourtney: you've deleted core system libraries
[07:16] <ikonia> that's why nothing is working
[07:16] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd: will grub need to be set up or when i plug in my hard disk i can directly boot without configuring?"
[07:16] <hdon> i think MsCourtney needs to ask herself who has it out for her or her sister
[07:16] <ikonia> the binaries are there but the libraries they depend on are missing
[07:16] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. Grub isnt loading, I am remaking the live usb and will reinstall it.
[07:17] <hdon> who is probably a sysadmin
[07:17] <ikonia> MsCourtney: your best bet is to backup core data and re-install
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: wait you have access to a machine that has the same hardware as your current machine?
[07:17] <MsCourtney> ikonia: Can they be restored?
[07:17] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: be sure to remove the usb with gparted before you boot ubuntu
[07:17] <ikonia> MsCourtney: it will be easier to backup your data and re-install
[07:18] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. Thanks for the help, i will be sure to do that.
[07:18] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: did you set the correct boot option in bios?
[07:18] <MsCourtney> I don't really get what I did wrong here. Can core system libraries be removed from software center?
[07:18] <ikonia> MsCourtney: depends on the package dependencies
[07:18] <ikonia> MsCourtney: lets just check a few other things
[07:18] <hdon> it's not supposed to be easy to do on accident MsCourtney
[07:18] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. Yes i did but with my motherboard i have to disable something called Asmedia Sata 3 mode to run live media from boot
[07:18] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: better check that one first. Happend to me once
[07:18] <syn-ack> MsCourtney, Sure they can
[07:18] <ikonia> MsCourtney: can you run "ls -la /usr/bin/ps" please
[07:19] <hdon> maybe MsCourtney should do a fsck
[07:19] <ikonia> hdon: why ?
[07:19] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd: im not sure. that was a good option which u had mentioned. so im exploring my options. but i dont see switching hard disks would be any problem as long as both are sata ports
[07:19] <syn-ack> MsCourtney, I see where you're going with this....
[07:19] <kickass>  when i use "java jar path" it shows error could not find or load main class jar
[07:19] <hdon> ikonia, why what?
[07:19] <syn-ack> rather, ikonia
[07:19] <ikonia> hdon: why run fsck
[07:19] <mumpitzel> ikonia: ls won't run: 09:16 < MsCourtney> ikonia: ls: cannot access please: No such file ordirectory
[07:19] <hdon> ikonia, i might have missed some info but it's amazing that apt got removed maybe the filesystem lost the commands
[07:19] <syn-ack> compromise?
[07:19] <ikonia> mumpitzel: that was against /usr/bin/apt-get I want to check the output as that isn't real output
[07:20] <MsCourtney> ikonia: No such file or directory
[07:20] <ikonia> hdon: well 1.) fsck wouldn't bring them back 2.) there is nothig to suggest any file system corruption
[07:20] <ikonia> MsCourtney: ok, it looks like your libraries are missing
[07:20] <ikonia> MsCourtney: backup your data and re-install
[07:20] <syn-ack> How did you remove core-utils?
[07:20] <MsCourtney> Ok,  thanks for your help, how do I backup data?
[07:20] <ikonia> syn-ack: it's not
[07:21] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: makes no sense to disable the sata controler to boot from usb
[07:21] <ikonia> syn-ack: something like libc is missing and the "file not found" error is "ls" erroring that it can't find a library it needs to run
[07:21] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: copy all of /home/ to a backup disk
[07:21] <ikonia> syn-ack: the files are there, but they can't run as something like libc is missing
[07:21] <syn-ack> yep, thtat would certainly do it
[07:22] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. There is a seperate option to disable the sata controller so it cant be what it does.
[07:22] <nikolam> hi were there changes in Unity GUI in recent months, that allow users not being spied by amazon or other internet search and service companies, E.G. Allowing User of Ubuntu Unity to control it's own personal data flow on it's own desktop computer, by default? Or is it the same by default like before?
[07:22] <syn-ack> MsCourtney, Out of curiosity, how long has your system been doing this?
[07:22] <nii236|irssi> Hey all I'm currently running Mint but thinking of switching back to Ubuntu. I realise this is probaly not the best place for an objective opinion, but are there obvious advantages to switching to Ubuntu?
[07:22] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. i think its a motherboard 'feature' that makes live usb not load properly
[07:22] <mumpitzel> syn-ack: it ran dpkg half an hour before and not even ls anymore
[07:22] <MsCourtney> mumpitzel: Ok sorry if this sounds stupid, but I don't know how to copy it from the Linux CLI. I know how to use cd, dir ls to navigate
[07:22] <MsCourtney> syn-ack: Just now, after a reboot
[07:23] <ikonia> MsCourtney: you need to use a livecd to get the data off
[07:23] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: boot from a live cd. the "cp" for copy program won't run either
[07:23] <syn-ack> wow, that's what apt is for, you know that, right MsCourtney?
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: if you absolutely need ubuntu, then 2 hours or so if trying this is worth it assuming no other options are available
[07:23] <ikonia> MsCourtney: a lot of the tools you want to use won't work
[07:23] <mumpitzel> ikonia: does ubuntu ship with busybox?
[07:23] <syn-ack> Yes
[07:23] <ikonia> mumpitzel: by default yes, but she's not going to get into it at this stage
[07:23] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: just read about it. Looks like asmedia sata controlers are not supported by the linux kernel
[07:23] <ikonia> mumpitzel: booting a livecd - copying of then clicking install seems the best 1 stop solution
[07:23] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: you need a livecd to install ubuntu anyways. so you can use the same CD/USB stick to save your userdata
[07:24] <syn-ack> Wow, what a mess
[07:24] <mumpitzel> ikonia: busybox is statically compiled, so if it's there it will run
[07:24] <ikonia> mumpitzel: I dont mean it won't run, I mean she's not going to get ito it
[07:24] <ikonia> into
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> nii236|irssi, Better support and a much larger development pool, a big forum...etc
[07:24] <syn-ack> he's got a point, ikonia but yeah
[07:24] <syn-ack> hrm
[07:24] <vinyl> hi there. i'm running ubuntu 12.04 server (amd64) using full hard disk encryption. the system comes up fine, however, there is no /var/run/network/ifstate (not even a /var/run/network directory). this causes ifup to malfunction and the loopback device to be missing. can anyone point me to the script that should create that file/directory, so i can see what's going wrong?
[07:25] <syn-ack> it would probably be better to just recover what you can and reinstall, anyway
[07:25] <nii236|irssi> wilee-nilee: Cheers
[07:25] <MsCourtney> mumpitzel: I have a Kubuntu livecd and it was actually Kubuntu installed
[07:25] <mumpitzel> ikonia: why not /bin/busybox cp -h  ? works just fine.
[07:25] <ikonia> mumpitzel: that works fine
[07:25] <mumpitzel> MsCourtney: that will do fine
[07:25] <hdon> vinyl, that sounds dreadful
[07:25] <ikonia> mumpitzel: she's not going to be able to mount the disk to copy off, or use a network etc etc etc
[07:25] <syn-ack> something like libc going missing is never a nice thing from which to recover.
[07:26] <ikonia> mumpitzel: the livecd will do all this for her, so it's easier to boot livecd with working environment, copy and re-install in one hit
[07:26] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd: im ok with any linux option but i guess if i mention that here i'd be asked to leave the chat room :P
[07:26] <syn-ack> mumpitzel, She'd have to buid a chroot and once she does that... no workie
[07:26] <mumpitzel> agreed
[07:26] <syn-ack> build, ugh
[07:28] <MsCourtney> Ok livecd booted to a completely black screen and hangs there.
[07:28] <MsCourtney> Well its actually a liveusb
[07:28] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. Ah i see, I have re made that live usb and running now. Would the Logical Volume Manager be any use?
[07:28] <vinyl> hdon, indeed it does. manually touching the missing file and executing ifup -a cures the problem. however, only until the next reboot.
[07:29] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: LVM is a good option. You can't go wrong with it
[07:29] <MsCourtney> Should I wait longer, the USB led is not blinking
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: if you have windows currently, supposedly there us a hdd only install with unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#install
[07:30] <MsCourtney> I have been told never to boot a livecd as it doesn't work on this laptop.
[07:30] <ikonia> chunkyhead: is there any chance you can share the truth about what you are doing
[07:30] <ikonia> chunkyhead: such as trying to install centos
[07:31] <ikonia> MsCourtney: worth trying
[07:31] <MsCourtney> Its still at this black screen on other computers its fast usually
[07:31] <inerkick> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5935529/ check this , thats the sourcelist
[07:32] <ikonia> inerkick: your dns is not working
[07:32] <chunkyhead> ikonia: trying to update centos or install something with updated kernel. i dont have
[07:32] <ikonia> chunkyhead: ok, so that's nothing to do with this channel
[07:32] <DJones>  /lastlog chunkyhead
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> inerkick, I would take ikonia's word.
[07:33] <chunkyhead> ikonia: imma install ubuntu, how does it matter?
[07:33] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so you're now trying to install ubuntu you say ?
[07:34] <chunkyhead> im trying to update this computer with a recent kernel
[07:34] <chunkyhead> centos unable to offer me that hence im moving to ubuntu
[07:34] <ikonia> chunkyhead: right, and you're using centos
[07:35] <alan_> can you help?
[07:35] <syn-ack> haha
[07:35] <aeon-ltd> with what?
[07:35] <chunkyhead> ikonia: hence i am moving to ubuntu
[07:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: ok, so what's stopping you from just installing it ?
[07:35] <syn-ack> wait, you were using CentOS as a workstation?
[07:35] <MsCourtney> The screen remained blank.  I powered it off with the button and  I know this sounds crazy but now it won't turn on.  Any ideas?
[07:35] <DJones> Guest57477: We don't yet until you ask your real question
[07:35] <chunkyhead> ikonia: my ports are DEAD
[07:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: what do you mean "dead"
[07:35] <Guest57477> can i download fruit loops on linux??
[07:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: as in hardware failure ?
[07:36] <chunkyhead> ikonia: does not detect anymore
[07:36] <linux> update managers says no updaters available and I still have ver 12 ? Anyone know how to install ver 13?
[07:36] <ikonia> chunkyhead: detect in the OS or the bios ?
[07:36] <MsCourtney> The laptop is a Samsung 530u3c ultrabook
[07:36] <kickass> unable to locate lamp in repositories
[07:36] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd: that will require me to use a usb right?
[07:36] <ikonia> MsCourtney: hardware failure if it won't turn on
[07:36] <ikonia> MsCourtney: contact the vendor for an RMA
[07:37] <MsCourtney> Its about a year old.
[07:37] <chunkyhead> ikonia: OS. i cant event boot anything from usb. although bios detects there is a usb there
[07:37] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. I reinstalled and now and its working fine, thanks for your help.
[07:37] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: unetbootin? there's a frugal install/hdd only; you might need to read into it
[07:37] <ikonia> chunkyhead: right , so you should be able to boot from an ubuntu livecd
[07:37] <ikonia> chunkyhead: or an ubuntu liveusb
[07:37] <wizrd> Grinwoody_: anytime. You can buy me a beer someday
[07:38] <chunkyhead> ikonia: no cd drive lol
[07:38] <dr_willis> linux you need to do a release upgrade, to the next released version. not update your current system to the latest packages for that version. if its a new install. it maybe easier to just get a 13.04 cd and do a clean install
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | wizrd
[07:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: I suspect it will work if you mack an ubuntu usb
[07:38] <chunkyhead> ikonia: cant boot thru usb that's what i've been telling you
[07:38] <wizrd> lotuspsychje: no cookies for me. Makes me fat
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: what can you boot to?
[07:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: no, you've told me your current OS doesn't detect USB
[07:38] <Grinwoody_> wizrd. will do buddy
[07:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you've told me the bios sees it
[07:38] <MsCourtney> So its nothing I did that could have caused it to stop right?
[07:39] <linux> Okay , think I have it on a cd already anyway. Does that wipe everything from my partitions hdd?
[07:39] <ikonia> chunkyhead: if you create an ubuntu usb install device, it should work
[07:39] <ikonia> MsCourtney: no idea, contact the vendor for an RMA
[07:39] <dr_willis> linux the instgaller can delete the old os.
[07:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia: lol i have tried. doesnt work
[07:39] <ikonia> chunkyhead: how did you install centos ?
[07:40] <chunkyhead> ikonia: centos was installed in this. usb stopped working recently :|
[07:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so to confirm, you have created an ubuntu usb stick already ?
[07:41] <mumpitzel> chunkyhead: you can install ubuntu via debootstrap
[07:41] <mumpitzel> while runnint centos
[07:41] <chunkyhead> mumpitzel: THANKS finally
[07:41] <chunkyhead> thank guys
[07:41] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so to confirm, you have created an ubuntu usb stick already ?
[07:41] <chunkyhead> no
[07:41] <dr_willis> debootstrap can be very... intense ;) not for the faint of heart
[07:41] <ikonia> chunkyhead: then how do you know it won't work ?
[07:42] <chunkyhead> ikonia: because USBS DONT WORK ON MY COMPUTER
[07:42] <ikonia> chunkyhead: no, it doesn't
[07:42] <chunkyhead> I"VE TRIED EVERYTHING
[07:42] <ikonia> chunkyhead: usb does not work on your current OS
[07:42] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you've told me the bios shows it still,
[07:42] <chunkyhead> dude have you been reading anything i typed till now
[07:42] <mumpitzel> chunkyhead: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/powerpc/linux-upgrade.html
[07:42] <chunkyhead> i said i cant boot
[07:42] <ikonia> chunkyhead: TRY an ubuntu usb stick
[07:42] <chunkyhead> os is irrelevent
[07:42] <ikonia> chunkyhead: what do you mean can't boot ?
[07:42] <chunkyhead> bios detects but doesn't boot
[07:42] <ikonia> chunkyhead: what have you tried to boot ?
[07:42] <dr_willis> see if the usb stick you made, does in fact boot on a differnt pc.
[07:42] <mumpitzel> chunkyhead: what mainboard is it?
[07:43] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: grub2?
[07:43] <chunkyhead> i gtg
[07:43] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: supposedly plop can boot to anything even if it's not supported http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/mbrinstall.html#grub2inst
[07:43] <chunkyhead> i will ttyl
[07:43] <ikonia> what a surprise
[07:44] <MsCourtney> The laptop doesn't have warranty according to me as it was bought online from a 3rd party
[07:44] <ikonia> MsCourtney: then we can't help you any more, contact a repair place
[07:45] <aeon-ltd> did we get trolled for half an hour by a fake request?
[07:45] <ikonia> yes
[07:45] <ikonia> and n
[07:45] <ikonia> no
[07:46] <ikonia> bottom line is from the other channel, he'd screwed his centos install up so it wouldn't detect usb an more as he was trying to do a custom kernel
[07:46] <ikonia> hence why if he made an ubuntu usb stick, it probably would have booted as it was his current OS / stick that wasn't working with usb
[07:47] <syn-ack> Red Hat *anything* is tricky to get the kernel right
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> is there a collection of pentesting tools fro ubuntu, so you dont have to manually install them one-by-one?
[07:47] <syn-ack> always has been...
[07:48] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: you'd probably be better looking at kali-linux
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: found this and just wondering: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPentest
[07:49] <HypnotiX> how do i set a default folder for the terminal to start in
[07:49] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: sorry, not sure how that url has anything to do with your question, that's explaining what a team does
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: isnt kali linux another Os?
[07:51] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: correct
[07:51] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: if you're looking for something specific for pen-testing it's worth considering, if you want to use ubuntu, just install the tools you want
[07:51] <HypnotiX> can i install a graphic card driver on my vbox guest windows ?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: ok so no collection exist for ubuntu?
[07:52] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: there are many tools, there isn't a metapackage for them
[07:52] <mumpitzel> HypnotiX: no. only the vbox guest additions
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: ok tnx
[07:52] <MsCourtney> Apparently booting Ubuntu livecd's on this particular laptop bricks it and I should not have tried the livecd on it!
[07:52] <dr_willis> MsCourtney:  a Toshiba?
[07:53] <MsCourtney> Samsung 530u3c
[07:53] <dr_willis> there was a lot of news/posts about that issue a few months back i recall.
[07:53] <syn-ack> Never heard of a liveCD bricking a laptop
[07:53] <dr_willis> i forget the details.. some weirdness with the bios/uefi or somthing
[07:54] <syn-ack> ah, well...
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> syn-ack: never heard of laptops bricking either
[07:54] <DJones> dr_willis: Was just going to say it was some Samsung laptop
[07:55] <ikonia> MsCourtney: that's nonsense
[07:55] <syn-ack> aeon-ltd, Well, now that it was mentioned that it's something about the UEFI, it makes sense... There's been a lot of breakage with them...
[07:55] <ikonia> MsCourtney: please show me where you found that information
[07:55] <DJones> ikonia: Bug 1040557
[07:55] <MsCourtney> My sister said so, I can't confirm it
[07:55] <ikonia> are you kidding me ?
[07:55] <dr_willis> i was thinking samsung also  came out with a bios (or whatever it is) update
[07:56] <ikonia> MsCourtney: my apologies, thats terrible
[07:56] <dr_willis> other os's could also brick the thing
[07:56] <mumpitzel> ikonia: it was a bug in samsung's uefi implementation
[07:56] <DJones> Nope, was big news a few months back, turned out to be not Ubuntu specific, was a bios fault that could affect other os's including windows
[07:56] <MsCourtney> ikonia: Its not your fault ... should have researched this
[07:57] <mumpitzel> samsung should have fixed this a long time ago
[07:57] <dr_willis> wonder if they had a recall? ;)
[07:58] <syn-ack> mumpitzel, It should never have happened.
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/01/linux_samsung_laptop_fix_advice/
[07:59] <HypnotiX> !fonts
[08:00] <MsCourtney> But I thought this was only for 12.04 and 12.10?530U3C
[08:00] <ikonia> MsCourtney: was it 13.04 you tried ?
[08:02] <Senor> My wireless nic working not so good ,
[08:02] <Senor> My wireless nic working not so good ,can I do some benchmark for it?
[08:03] <MsCourtney> I thought it was  Kubuntu 13.04, but it seems like I accidentally used Ubuntu 12.10... Anyways there's nothing I can do now. Hopefully it can be fixed and the data recovered.
[08:03] <HypnotiX> how do i install all fonts from a directory?
[08:03] <HypnotiX> at once
[08:04] <g0ran> hi guys can i change dash button to show applications by default in 13.04?
[08:04] <ikonia> MsCourtney: get in contact with samsung and explain,
[08:05] <sahil__> hi every1
[08:07] <sahil__> i need a help in wine.after i run a game under wine(full screen) then the resolution becomes akward after i exit the app.any work around? so that each time i exit the app,resolution auto corrects itself
[08:07] <espio> anyone can tell me how I can get the active nic on the commandline (want to use it tn an sh script)
[08:07] <dr_willis> g0ran:  if its doable. id bet its been asked and answered on askubuntu.com
[08:07] <espio> so I want to know it eth0 or eth1 or whatever is the active networkcard being used
[08:08] <dr_willis> sahil__:  common 'fix' is use a script to launch the wine game, and have the script run xrandr with the right optiomns to  set the res when the game exits
[08:09] <dr_willis> espio:  look at the output of ifconfig and parse it to see which one has an ip# perhaps
  okey i nearly understood what you have said...is any sample script available?
[08:09] <dr_willis> espio:  of course its possible you will have both nics active ;) in some cases.
[08:10] <dr_willis> sahil__:  #!/bin/bash     wine /path/to/whatevver.exe       xrandr optionsgohere
[08:10] <dr_willis> sahil__:  3 line  script
[08:10] <g0ran> appears it cannot be done. what about using three finger gestures with touchpad, for example to go back/forward in browser. is there a tweak which enables this. synaptics touchpad settings do not have this
[08:11] <dr_willis> Guest93755:  you are better off talking in the channel. that way everyone can help
[08:11] <espio> dr_willis: thx. sounds a bit complex though
[08:11] <sahil__> oksay i want to have 1280*1024 reso after the game exist.so will it be xrandr 1280*1024??
[08:12] <dr_willis> espio:  ifconfig has differnt options, you can parse the output throught grep to see what eth# has a ip address. that would most likely be the one in use
[08:12] <dr_willis> !xrandr
[08:12] <dr_willis> sahil__:  check    xrandr --help    also for its syntax. i dont use it much
[08:12] <sahil__> thanx :)
[08:13] <sahil__> is there  any wine specific channel?
[08:13] <dr_willis> !wine
[08:15] <sol2> hello people. some help here! I cannot boot my Ubuntu 12.04! it shows several messages on the screen and now has stack to  the following msg : udev[113] : '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda6' [240] terminated by signal
[08:16] <vinyl> hdon, just to follow up. i found the issue. was due to me replacing /sbin/initctl during installation time for it to work in a debootstrap/chroot environment. unfortunately i must have lost the post-it where i reminded myself to revert back to the original.
[08:16] <vinyl> problem solved.
[08:17] <hdon> ahhh
[08:17] <hdon> awesome
[08:21] <karab44> hello
[08:22] <karab44> i set ssh service on my ubu server and i am trying to connect from other machine... it asks me for password
[08:23] <karab44> I type passw like I used to login to that server as a user but it doesn't work
[08:23] <karab44> any sugestions what my password could be ? :)
[08:24] <iLiFo> lol
[08:24] <karab44> I mean seriously. If on the router I have user named XXX and password XXX isn't it true that using ssh I login XXX:XXX ???
[08:24] <karab44> not router, * server
[08:25] <somsip> karab44: ssh user@server, then enter password when prompted
[08:25] <karab44> ok but is it the same as user password?
[08:25] <karab44> should be
[08:25] <somsip> karab44: it is the password for the user on the server
[08:25] <DJones> karab44: Yes, it should be the same password as for the username on the server
[08:26] <thatstoner> hey
[08:26] <karab44> I just lost my mind because I got user@server and tried password that I just logged in (I have local access granted)