[06:01] <farous> purplefeltangel: what is wrong with firefox
[06:01] <purplefeltangel> andrei: except that it's what's giving me my sound problems
[06:01] <dtry_> configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers. << any ideas?
[06:01] <andrei> purplefeltangel, try opera
[06:01] <andrei> or update firefox
[06:01] <aboapri> have you tried kazehakase?
[06:01] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: okay. let put eth1 down. then, dhclient eth1. try ifconfig again.
[06:01] <andrei> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:01] <purplefeltangel> andrei: i don't like opera. :/
[06:01] <purplefeltangel> andrei: and i think i am on <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:01] <farous> dtry_: you need xdm, gdm or kdm installed
[06:01] <PuppiesOnAcid> Does anyone honestly like opera?
[06:01] <andrei> check to make sure, purplefeltangel
[06:01] <hsikrut> so eth1 down ; dhclient ?
[06:01] <purplefeltangel> andrei: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5?
[06:02] <bimberi> dtry_: what is being done to get that message?
[06:02] <madewokherd> I still think it's weird that no one else is having these problems
[06:02] <pab1> Is there any way to allow WMV3 playback on linux?  Preferrable through VLC?
[06:02] <farous> purplefeltangel: what is wrong with opera. running ver 9.0 here and firefox is just catching up
[06:02] <aboapri> actually the best web browser is dillo
[06:02] <andrei> is it possible to run itunes on linux
[06:02] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo dhclient eth1
[06:02] <pab1> gtkpod
[06:02] <purplefeltangel> farous: well i only tried it on windows and it made my computer crash like whoa, and the toolbars were too bulky ^o^
[06:02] <pab1> andrei^
[06:02] <farous> PuppiesOnAcid: what is wrong with firefox
[06:02] <stupendo44> what's the easiest way to extract/convert .sit files?
[06:03] <andrei> oh
[06:03] <wastrel> how did you install ff1.5?  using the howto on the wiki?
[06:03] <andrei> rats
[06:03] <farous> sorry purplefeltangel that was ment for PuppiesOnAcid
[06:03] <aboapri> firefox can be a bit heavy for old computers.
[06:03] <andrei> wastrel, thats really hard
[06:03] <aboapri> that is my only complaint with it.
[06:03] <hsikrut> Can't get interface flags for : No such device
[06:03] <hsikrut> exiting.
[06:03] <hsikrut> after i typed ifconfig eth1 down
[06:03] <hsikrut> then dhcilent
[06:03] <pab1> andrei: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8160
[06:03] <cedriczg> _jason, Thnaks a lot frien it really worked!!!
[06:03] <farous> eh am to sleepy care all
[06:03] <_jason> cedriczg: great
[06:03] <wastrel> stupendo44:  stuffit expander has a linux version iirc
[06:03] <PuppiesOnAcid> farous: I dunno...I've met a number of people who suggest Opera as an "alternative browser", but not many people who actually use it or prefer it to Firefox.
[06:04] <cedriczg> _jason, is it possible not to see the windows mounted on the desktop?
[06:04] <stupendo44> wastrel: any other way besides stuffit? I'd like to avoid it if possible
[06:04] <madewokherd> I pretty much always have opera installed
[06:04] <madewokherd> in case firefox stops working for some reason
[06:04] <wastrel> stupendo44:  dunno, it's been years since i saw a .sit archive ;]
[06:04] <mediated> bimberi: did you mean 'noapic' ?  I tried
[06:04] <stupendo44> wastrel: RealBasic stuff I'm working with. Mainly mac-based. everyone uses .sit files.
[06:04] <mediated> 'acpi=off'
[06:04] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: it happened to me twice ... last time, i just simply rebooted. something just borked.
[06:04] <andrei> wait can some1 link the wiki for ff<IP_ADDRESS> for me plez
[06:05] <purplefeltangel> aboapri: do you actually use dillo?
[06:05] <wastrel> !ff1.5
[06:05] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:05] <cedriczg> _jason, Because I don't unnderstand the options on the fstab
[06:05] <bimberi> mediated: that's another you could try
[06:05] <_jason> cedriczg: applications menu > system tools > configuration editor: /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible unchecked
[06:05] <Shadyman> Note to self: Deleting DHCP3 folder was a dumb move.
[06:05] <purplefeltangel> !fr
[06:05] <ubotu> Vas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[06:05] <hsikrut> Can't get interface flags for : No such device
[06:05] <ZAKhan> anyone using a port replicator with IBM laptop?
[06:05] <purplefeltangel> how do i change what Ubotu says?
[06:05] <dtry_> _jason, configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers. << any ideas?
[06:05] <hsikrut> ifconfig eth1 down > then dhclient eth1
[06:05] <hsikrut> after that i got disconnected
[06:05] <_jason> dtry_: install libx11-dev I think, something like that
[06:06] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: /msg ubotu no fr is <whatever you think it should be>
[06:06] <Madpilot> purplefeltangel, do "!no, <foo> is <whatever>"
[06:06] <purplefeltangel> thanks
[06:06] <hsikrut> IcemanV9 ?
[06:06] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: yeah. down will disconnect you. dhclient should bring it back.
[06:06] <aboapri> I sometimes use dillo.    It is not good for all modern sites, no, but that is not dillo's fault, I blame the internet for that.
[06:06] <hsikrut> IcemanV9 ill try again one sec.
[06:06] <wastrel> what's dillo?
[06:07] <bimberi> !info dillo
[06:07] <ubotu> dillo: (GTK-based web browser), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.5-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 684 kB
[06:07] <aboapri> it is a no-frills web browser
[06:07] <wastrel> yet another gecko browser?
[06:07] <aboapri> it is very minimalist.
[06:07] <wastrel> i liked galeon before the gtk2.0 suckage :[
[06:07] <aboapri> not gecko, I do not believe so.
[06:07] <purplefeltangel> !no, fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en franais
[06:07] <aurelio> SALUDOS DESDE MEXICO
[06:08] <madewokherd> this isn't even gtk2, is it?
[06:08] <Shadyman> !es
[06:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:08] <purplefeltangel> !fr
[06:08] <ubotu> Vas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[06:08] <purplefeltangel> hey, it didn't change
[06:08] <dtry_> how do you start ssh everytime you reboot?
[06:08] <hsikrut> IcemanV9 nope i got that error again
[06:08] <tritium> dtry_: it's automatic
[06:08] <hsikrut> Can't get interface flags for : No such device <==
[06:08] <wastrel> people were spamming the bot so they locked it down
[06:08] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: try leaving out the comma after no
[06:08] <purplefeltangel> thanks
[06:08] <dtry_> not really
[06:08] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: ithen reboot is the next thing to do.
[06:09] <dtry_> not with mine
[06:09] <tritium> dtry_: no, really
[06:09] <purplefeltangel> !fr
[06:09] <ubotu> hmm... fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[06:09] <IcemanV9> *then
[06:09] <purplefeltangel> thanks :)
[06:09] <hsikrut> ok
[06:09] <wastrel> dtry_:  man update-rc.d
[06:09] <hsikrut> umm also how do i set off nobiospnp ?
[06:09] <tritium> dtry_: what problems are you having?
[06:09] <dtry_> i had to restart evertime i reboot
[06:10] <tritium> dtry_: that's now how it's configured by default
[06:10] <aboapri> so has anyone set up folder sharing with ubuntu computers?
[06:10] <dtry_> let me try that wastrel
[06:10] <cedriczg> _jason, thank you that worked. But...
[06:10] <hsikrut> icemanV9?
[06:10] <cedriczg> _jason, Why the windows directory didn't appear before?
[06:10] <tritium> dtry_: how did you change it after install?
[06:11] <cedriczg> _jason, I mean in the desktop as mounted?
[06:11] <hsikrut> umm also how do i set off nobiospnp ? on start/b00t
[06:11] <cedriczg> _jason, Because my user was restricted to see it?
[06:11] <dtry_> nothing, i just installed ssh and i rebooted and i had to restart it again
[06:12] <tritium> dtry_: what makes you think that?
[06:12] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: no idea abt nobiospnp
[06:13] <cedriczg> _jason, before I didn't see it as mounted maybe?
[06:14] <hsikrut> k
[06:14] <jsestri2> i had my ivtv setup working correctly, and now that i have restarted, its broken and ivtvctl, only gives me "not an ivtv driver"
[06:14] <_jason> cedriczg: yeah, because you didn't have 'user' I think
[06:14] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: try this solution --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2760
[06:14] <nw> anyone had problems with being able to see your HDD's when going to install ubuntu? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137577 for more info on what i've been doing..
[06:15] <coolpup> Hi
[06:15] <aboapri> bye
[06:16] <dtry_> nope _jason
[06:16] <dtry_> that didn't work
[06:16] <dtry_> :/
[06:16] <dtry_> im trying to install fluxbox
[06:16] <ZAKhan> anyone using an IBM laptop with port replicator?
[06:17] <h3ax> ok maybe its me thats tired but.. "You must give -r /path/to/program/authd (witch in this case is /usr/sbin/pure-authd
[06:17] <coolpup> I installed 6.04, Flight 4 the other day. Once installed, the desktop is splattered with multiple panels, and other assorted nonsense. Any suggestions?
[06:17] <_jason> dtry_: checkout the README for all the deps
[06:17] <dtry_> where i can locate that?
[06:17] <dtry_> sorry, you know im newb
[06:18] <c_rippa> does anyone know when dapper is scheduled for release?
[06:18] <coolpup> April, from what I see
[06:18] <h3ax> go to term writ man -k "prog you want documentation for"
[06:18] <c_rippa> :) thx.
[06:18] <mlins> Would anybody be so kind to check out my post on the forums and see if they know the answer to my question.  I constantly I have to restart Xwindows. : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133719
[06:19] <mediated> bimberi: I've tried every command from F1 that I thought was appropriate.  Any other ideas?
[06:19] <_jason> dtry_: should be in the main directory that got extracted
[06:19] <sandrina_l> expected release dates
[06:19] <sandrina_l> # 2006-04-13: Ubuntu Linux RC
[06:19] <sandrina_l> # 2006-04-20: Ubuntu Linux 6.04
[06:19] <h3ax> any one here used to run Pure ftp
[06:19] <c_rippa> sweet.  thx.
[06:19] <Klick_> Anyone able to help me figure out whats wrong with mplayer, it skips when it plays certain video types like here is an example
[06:20] <Klick_> http://pastebin.com/577936
[06:20] <scelestus> ok my wifi card now says "no DHCPOFFERS"
[06:20] <scelestus> any ideas?
[06:20] <Hobbsee> scelestus: sudo dhclient wlan0?
[06:21] <HermanDE> Klick_: Try mplayer -o oss .......
[06:21] <scelestus> let me try
[06:21] <ckopn> hi all
[06:21] <HermanDE> Klick_: or gmplayer -oa ass....
[06:21] <_jason> Klick_: use srate=48000 if you want to keep alsa
[06:21] <HermanDE> Klick_: Or it's -ao ....    I have an adequete system.  Please look here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133719
[06:23] <Klick_> well using oss worked.. but that srate=48000 idnt unless im doing it wrong, is this right
[06:23] <Klick_> mplayer -vo xv -ao alsa srate=48000 /data/Videos/Breakdancing\ -\ Kollaboration\ 2003\ -\ David\ Elsewhere\ Bernal.mpeg
[06:23] <_jason> Klick_: the option would be '-srate 48000'
[06:24] <Klick_> ahh cool, thanks a ton!
[06:24] <HermanDE> mlins: What are you trying to do?
[06:24] <dtry_> gnome or kde, which one is stable for desktop
[06:24] <dtry_> ?
[06:24] <scelestus> *ducks*
[06:24] <pbransford> how do I kick a user off a terminal?
[06:24] <pbransford> the user in question is under ALT-F1
[06:24] <dtry_> kill -9 id ?
[06:24] <Kelsey_> # kill pid
[06:24] <_jason> Klick_: but just put that stuff in ~/.mplayer/config so you don't type it all the time, the syntax looks like 'srate=48000' and you can put the vo an ao stuff there too
[06:24] <pbransford> ok how di I find the numbers i need?
[06:24] <wastrel> change their password first so they don't just relog
[06:25] <mlins> HermanDE : Xwindows will not load programs after a couple of day of running.  I try to load firefox or anything and it won't load
[06:25] <pbransford> ... its me, a program died and the term wont respond even after I killed the process
[06:25] <Kelsey_> # telint 6
[06:25] <HermanDE> mlins: are you running dapper?
[06:25] <mlins> HermanDE : If I try to load it manually from the console I get the error seen here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133719
[06:25] <Kelsey_> ^ best command ever!!!!!!!!!!
[06:25] <pbransford> I was bad, angband died.
[06:25] <mlins> HermanDE : no
[06:26] <Klick_> _jason, ok that works perfect one more small thing maybe is easy for you to help me fix, on some videos i get this when i try to play them
[06:26] <Klick_> http://pastebin.com/577944
[06:26] <mlins> HermanDE : Breezy
[06:26] <pbransford> help?
[06:26] <jsestri2> my ivtv dosent seem to be setup right...i can't get the video0 device to play in VLC media player
[06:26] <jsestri2> any help?
[06:26] <scelestus> Now I get "No DHCPOFFERS recieved   No working leases in persistent database"
[06:26] <Kelsey_> # telinit 6
[06:26] <scelestus> I turned off WEP
[06:26] <pbransford> what exactly will that do Kelsey_?
[06:26] <HermanDE> mlins: How many X apps are running when this happens?
[06:27] <Kelsey_> dont type it, unless your computer is froze
[06:27] <Kelsey_> it will reboot the machine
[06:27] <_jason> Klick_: you have w32codecs?
[06:27] <Klick_> _jason, I believe so how do i tell
[06:27] <pbransford> ok, that particular terminal is locked in the Angband screen, even after I killed the angband process
[06:27] <pbransford> everything else works fine
[06:27] <HermanDE> pbransford: It drops the system into run level 6....
[06:27] <Kelsey_> 6 =reboot runlevel :D
[06:27] <mlins> HermanDE : not many...one or two....at time I'll have a lot running, but even if I close everything the problem persists until I restart X
[06:28] <wastrel> pbransford:  did you use the -9 flag to kill angband?
[06:28] <_jason> Klick_: good question, depends on how you installed them.  does 'ls /usr/lib/win32/' show a lot of files?
[06:28] <HermanDE> mlins: Sounds like you have an X app that doesn't really close down properly....
[06:28] <h3ax> mm
[06:28] <pbransford> wastrel: i killed it with the system monitor
[06:28] <scelestus> Hobbsee:   Now I get "No DHCPOFFERS recieved   No working leases in persistent database"
[06:28] <mlins> HermanDE : do you think it's firefox? that is the app I run the most..
[06:28] <pbransford> wastrel: pkill ### and kill ### NEVER work, seemingly
[06:28] <Klick_> _jason, yes, i downloaded the CVS all codec respository and coppied them all to there, and also to /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[06:28] <Hobbsee> scelestus: using any encryption on this wireless connectoin?
[06:29] <HermanDE> mlins: you might want to do a top or ps when it happens again to see what is running....
[06:29] <peloverde> whats the best way to add fonts to fonts.conf do i need to do it manually or is there an automagic tool?
[06:29] <scelestus> just turned off WEP before I tried those commands
[06:29] <wastrel> pbransford:  kill -9 works :]
[06:29] <Psykus> my sound just stopped working, and i'm hearing nothing but a clicking sound in my headphones
[06:29] <h3ax> why is PureFtpd |PureAdmin| report "PureFTPd not running" .. but i just logged in on it ?
[06:29] <Psykus> what's the command to restart alsa?
[06:29] <mlins> HermanDE: I have and nothing major is running...it's strange
[06:29] <_jason> Klick_: don't know then, try #mplayer if no one else here can help you out
[06:29] <HermanDE> h3ax: Are you running as xinetd/inetd or daemon?
[06:29] <pbransford> wastrel: except now the process is gone. can i find out who is logged in where, and how do I boot em off?
[06:30] <Klick_> should be /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[06:30] <scelestus> pbransford:  htop
[06:30] <nw> anyone had problems with being able to see your HDD's when going to install ubuntu? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137577 for more info on what i've been doing..
[06:30] <cryptik> hey
[06:30] <HermanDE> mlins: Hmm..  Could also be a buggy  X server....
[06:30] <cryptik> another question lol
[06:30] <pbransford> "sudo: htop: command not found"
[06:30] <Psykus> ok, restarted alsa, the clicking sound stopped for a second, but then started again, still no sound
[06:30] <h3ax> excuse me =) still not uptodate on the various sys extension meanings
[06:31] <cryptik> is there a driver problem with x64 and the ATI x600?
[06:31] <scelestus> sudo apt-get install htop
[06:31] <HermanDE> cryptik: Are you running an x600?
[06:31] <Mangelo> im having trouble running the packaged install program w/ the 5.10 install cd =(
[06:31] <mustard5> htop is nice :)
[06:31] <cryptik> yeah
[06:31] <mustard5> just installed it yesterday
[06:31] <scelestus> Hobbsee:   just turned off WEP before I tried those commands
[06:31] <dtry_> is 'sudo apt-get install' the same as 'sudo aptitude install'?
[06:32] <HermanDE> cryptik: I been reading about ATI dragging their heels on Linux....  Are you running vesa?
[06:32] <pbransford> installed it... now how the * do I use it?
[06:32] <mustard5> pbransford, type htop in terminal
[06:32] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know if pine is available ?
[06:32] <CaptainMorgan> I didn't find it syn
[06:32] <Hobbsee> scelestus: did you follow the stuff in !wifi?  particularly the troubleshooting page?  also, what else did you try?
[06:32] <h3ax> mm isn't there a "dictionary" on shortly explaining those terms.. i am not quite sure whats is what
[06:32] <CaptainMorgan> *in
[06:32] <timfrost> !pine
[06:32] <ubotu> timfrost: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <scelestus> !wifi
[06:32] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:32] <cryptik> HermanDE: i have no idea lol i cant get ubuntu to load xserver with startx i get an error
[06:32] <h3ax> i have a feeling but hee
[06:32] <HermanDE> CaptainMorgan: It is always available.....
[06:32] <tritium> CaptainMorgan: it's not available, due to licensing issues.
[06:32] <mustard5> timfrost try !info pine
[06:32] <cryptik> im on XP now
[06:32] <thoreauputic> CaptainMorgan: pine is "non-free" and not in Ubuntu
[06:33] <pbransford> mustard5 - ok its up, but the user is not runnign anything, but i know that it's logged in on "ALT-F1" (whatever thats called)
[06:33] <tritium> CaptainMorgan: try mutt.
[06:33] <Psykus> brb, going to restart gnome and see if that does anything
[06:33] <wastrel> <3 mutt
[06:33] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[06:33] <HermanDE> cryptik: Hmm....  Sounds like what I've been reading....
[06:33] <jsestri2> is there a way to uninstall things properly?
[06:33] <mustard5> pbransford, I've only been half following the discussion unfortunately
[06:33] <Mangelo> [!!]  Install the base system.  Base system installation error.  The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1).  Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details.  <Go Back><continue>
[06:33] <HermanDE> jsestri2: apt-get remove (package name)
[06:33] <Mangelo> the error i get when i try to install =(
[06:33] <scelestus> Hobbsee:  ill double check
[06:33] <salah> Hello
[06:34] <pbransford> mustard5 - for some reason or another i need to force a user to log off. it's logged in the terminal that shows when you hit "ALT-F1"
[06:34] <cryptik> HermanDE : do you know of any fixes ir am i screwed in running ubuntu and give up ?
[06:34] <HermanDE> cryptik: What does your X log show?
[06:34] <dtry_> _jason, configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers. << any ideas?
[06:34] <dtry_> ooops
[06:34] <mustard5> pbransford, you mean ctrl + alt + f1?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> dtry_: install xlibs-dev
[06:34] <pbransford> yes, if i'm in X
[06:34] <HermanDE> cryptik: Is this a laptop?
[06:34] <mustard5> pbransford, couldnt you just go there and type 'exit'?
[06:34] <salah> I wanna install mplayer.I am following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:34] <cryptik> no desktop
[06:34] <Installer36> dtry did you try sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[06:35] <pbransford> mustard5 - a program died, and when i killed it it never exited cleanly i guess, point is it's not taking input
[06:35] <dtry_> not yet
[06:35] <salah> but I can't setup $ tar -xjf Blue-1.4.tar.bz2
[06:35] <wastrel> pbransford:  ps aux | grep tty  - kill the pid for tty1
[06:35] <dtry_> is it included?
[06:35] <salah> Please helpme
[06:35] <Installer36> That is how I installed it last night
[06:35] <pbransford> mustard5 - and ctrl-c, ctrl-z, etc. do nothing :)
[06:35] <dtry_> nope
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Installer36: the breezy version of fluxbox has issues
[06:35] <dtry_> couldn't find
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Installer36: the dapper one should be OK
[06:35] <Psykus> ok, that didn't do anything, the clicking still continued while I was at the terminal
[06:35] <HermanDE> cryptik: Are you trying to use fglrx?
[06:36] <cryptik> hermanDE: it is a desktop and i have no idea what is says lol i says something failure to start x server blah blah blah  - ill try to load again and wriet down the message
[06:36] <Installer36> Because it is behind some versions?
[06:36] <cryptik> i have no idea what fglrx is srry
[06:36] <HermanDE> cryptik: Check in /var/log/X*
[06:36] <mustard5> pbransford, htop has some functions in the menu at the bottom btw
[06:36] <thoreauputic> dtry_: fluxbox is in universe
[06:36] <HermanDE> cryptik: Did you load the ATI drivers?
[06:36] <cryptik> ok thank you bbl
[06:36] <mustard5> pbransford, you could try them or use wastrel's method
[06:36] <dtry_> it means>
[06:36] <dtry_> ?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> !info fluxbox
[06:36] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[06:37] <pbransford> ok, i see two things in "ps aux | grep tty" that are non root, one of which is grep...
[06:37] <cryptik> hermande: how would i go about doing that ?
[06:37] <wastrel> pbransford:  it's going to be root
[06:37] <Installer36> What is this info about
[06:37] <tritium> thoreauputic: long time no see!
[06:37] <thoreauputic> !tell dtry_ about repositories
[06:37] <HermanDE> cryptik: I'll take that as "NO"....
[06:37] <chris12349> whenever I run synapic or anything that involves the root user the gtk theme is an ugly default.  Is there a way to fix that? I tried logging in as root and changing the theme but it didn't work
[06:37] <cryptik> haha yeah lol
[06:37] <pbransford> nothing on TTY1.
[06:37] <HermanDE> cryptik: ATI has a very specific set of drivers for linux.....
[06:37] <pbransford> odd...
[06:37] <thoreauputic> tritium: yeah, I've been doing other stuff :)
[06:37] <pbransford> wait...!
[06:37] <tritium> thoreauputic: yeah, me too :)
[06:37] <pbransford> "root      8343  0.0  0.2   2256  1060 tty1     Ss   Feb28   0:00 /bin/login --"
[06:37] <pbransford> is that it?
[06:38] <HermanDE> cryptik: There are actually two flavors...  ATI (Official) and GPL'd....
[06:38] <wastrel> yes
[06:38] <pbransford> ok... what do I do with it
[06:38] <cryptik> ok
[06:38] <HermanDE> cryptik: for the newer cards, ATI (official) is the recommended.....
[06:38] <Rob_Dude> Hi all.  I'm having a DNS type issue....the /etc/resolv.conf file keeps getting updated by my DHCP server (which is good) but once that happens my connection crawls until I manually edit it and remove the first two lines (no good DNS servers).  How can I stop that file from being changed?
[06:38] <Installer36> thoreaputic what is info about
[06:38] <pbransford> theres no headers, i have no idea what is what
[06:38] <wastrel> pbransford:  sudo kill -9 8343
[06:38] <Mangelo> playing around in bash...whats the command to remove an entire directory, no matter if its empty or not
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Installer36: !info searches for packages
[06:38] <wastrel> pbransford:  ps aux | head  will give you the column names
[06:38] <HermanDE> Rob_Dude: check your dhclient.conf or dhclient* file in /etc
[06:38] <pbransford> no efect
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Installer36: it tells you what they are and what repo
[06:38] <Installer36> how does obuntu respond so fast
[06:39] <cryptik> hermande : how would i load these ? do you know ?
[06:39] <Rob_Dude> HermanDE:  Thank you
[06:39] <pbransford> term is still sitting in an old angband screen :/
[06:39] <delmar> OK. looks like ubuntu finally installed and all good...i guess it didnt detect my nvidia tho..
[06:39] <thoreauputic> Installer36: ubotu is a bot :)
[06:39] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[06:39] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:39] <tritium> !tell delmar about nvidia
[06:39] <delmar> lol thanks tritium
[06:39] <wastrel> pbransford:  you sure there's no login line at the bottom?
[06:39] <Psykus> i've suddenly lost sound, and in place of it, a constant clicking noise...tried restarting alsa, and then gnome, no luck there either
[06:39] <pbransford> yea
[06:39] <pbransford> and the system carot is in mid-screen
[06:40] <wastrel> pbransford:  if the terminal settings were changed they might not have reset.  try logging in blind and typing "reset"
[06:40] <Installer36> So he doesnt typr real fast then...
[06:40] <HermanDE> cryptik: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300
[06:40] <thoreauputic> Installer36: heh :)
[06:40] <pbransford> nothing happening
[06:40] <delmar> Hey what happens with ubuntu if I move the hard drive to a different mobo with new/different features.. will it care much or like other debian/linux distro's.... not really too much apart from a few modules such as network etc.?
[06:40] <tritium> cryptik: you want to use the official ubuntu fglrx packages.
[06:41] <tritium> !tell cryptik about ati
[06:41] <wastrel> pbransford:  and you still have that tty1 line in   ps aux | grep tty1
[06:41] <dtry_> i could not even start X, so why should i follow that?
[06:41] <dtry_> i mean no GUI and stuff
[06:41] <dtry_> just the console
[06:41] <tritium> dtry_: with all the problems you've mentioned, it sounds like you hosed your install
[06:41] <HermanDE> tritium: I've discovered that the ubuntu module failes on the x600 and x800....
[06:41] <pbransford> "root      9652  0.0  0.0   1552   420 tty1     Ss+  00:40   0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1" now
[06:41] <thoreauputic> dtry_: have you tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:41] <pbransford> odd situation
[06:42] <pbransford> tried killing that, no effect
[06:42] <dtry_> i think thats it thoreauputic
[06:42] <dtry_> let me take a look
[06:42] <melaren> Is Dapper Drake Alpha Flight 4 close to the speed we will see in the stable release?  ...or will it get faster?
[06:42] <wastrel> pbransford:  try logging in blind again - hit enter a few times first to make sure you have a "login" prompt
[06:42] <sandrina_l> please point me to a good place on this: setting up lamp. ubuntu gives me only apache2 as an option... how should i go about for installing lamp with apache-perl version 1?
[06:42] <HermanDE> melaren: is it fast?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> dtry_: that will usually work OK - you can choose the vesa driver to get going if all else fails
[06:43] <pbransford> nothing
[06:43] <pbransford> maybe i should just reboot
[06:43] <wastrel> or you could just ignore it and use tty2 :]
[06:43] <melaren> hermanDE: startup is fast.
[06:43] <pbransford> what runlevel is single-user?
[06:43] <dtry_> but look, isnt 'nv' nvidia from the list?
[06:43] <HermanDE> pbransford: 1
[06:43] <pbransford> ill try that
[06:43] <Psykus> are there any other sound related services apart from alsa that I can restart? i've suddenly lost sound, and in place of it, a constant clicking noise...tried restarting alsa, and then gnome, no luck there either
[06:43] <lnc> mplayer produces a horrible static squawk when I try to play a dvd under ubuntu.  It gives the error Couldn't find matching filter/ao format!
[06:43] <lnc>   How do I fix this?  Ive tried it with and without the audio server running and with the option -ao esd
[06:43] <thoreauputic> dtry_: yes, nv is nvidia
[06:44] <dtry_> ic
[06:44] <dtry_> ill try that
[06:44] <tritium> HermanDE: which module?
[06:44] <Psykus> should I just reboot?
[06:44] <HermanDE> tritium: the fglrx (ATI) drivers...  and the x600/x800
[06:45] <tritium> HermanDE: have you tracked down the cause?
[06:45] <melaren> hermanDE: I can't tell with the normal usage because I'm not using the same hardware.  ...but I noticed that it is using the 2.13.91 version of gnome, so are all of the gnome speed improvements implemented?
[06:45] <mustard5> Psykus, its worth a try :)
[06:45] <Installer36> Psylus have you tried this out   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=337513
[06:45] <cafuego> The ATI drivers are supposedly broken (in dapper) atm.
[06:45] <tritium> HermanDE: are you running dapper?
[06:45] <dtry_> ok
[06:46] <HermanDE> tritium: Yep....  HP contributed improvements in Sept for x600.... ATI is just now thinking about x800 for linux.....  Not in time for breezy.....
[06:46] <dtry_> it asking me how much memory to be used by my vid card
[06:46] <HermanDE> tritium: Nope....  Not this time....
[06:46] <dtry_> i have a 64mb geforce
[06:46] <tritium> HermanDE: ok
[06:46] <dtry_> so how much you think should i put?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> dtry_: so say 64MB I guess
[06:46] <cafuego> HermanDE: Not in time for dapper, you mean?
[06:46] <dtry_> i think i should leave it blank
[06:47] <cafuego> dtry_: Like the previous screen said, don't enter anything, just hit return.
[06:47] <pmanager> hi there!
[06:47] <HermanDE> cafuego: Breezy...  Nother conversation....
[06:47] <lnc> Now I know DVDs have eevil encryption, but isnt this a fairly basic thing?  shouldnt it just work?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> dtry_: you can always re-run the command if it doesn't work
[06:47] <pmanager> is there any mods here?
[06:47] <cafuego> lnc: You'll want to install 'libdvdcss'
[06:47] <cafuego> !dvdcss
[06:47] <thoreauputic> pmanager: yes, we are hiding :)
[06:47] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[06:48] <HermanDE> lnc: Nope....  It's not an official player.....  Try VLC   :)
[06:48] <thoreauputic> pmanager: what's the trouble?
[06:48] <melaren>  In Dapper Flight 4, Gnome 2.13.91 is being used, so are all of the gnome speed improvements implemented?
[06:49] <tritium> melaren: /topic
[06:49] <HermanDE> melaren: I think everybody is looking for the answer....  But in this case, we have to wait a few more weeks for a true answer....
[06:49] <chris12349> hey if anyone is interested I fixed the ugly gtk icons and themes by doing this: sudo ln -s ~/.themes /root/.themes
[06:49] <chris12349> sudo ln -s ~/.icons /root/.icons
[06:49] <pmanager> thoreauputic: I sent you a pm
[06:49] <melaren> HermanDE: Oh, ic. Thanks.
[06:50] <lnc> cafuego, Ive installed libdvdcss
[06:50] <thoreauputic> pmanager: not received
[06:50] <lnc> HermanDE, VLC wont open the disc
[06:50] <thoreauputic> pmanager: are you registered?
[06:50] <dtry_> aight
[06:50] <dtry_> let me try to reboot this toy
[06:50] <pmanager> thoreauputic: ouch! nope... how do i do that?
[06:50] <HermanDE> lnc: Do you have an alias pointing /dev/hd? to /dev/dvd?
[06:51] <thoreauputic> pmanager:  /msg nickserv register <password>
[06:51] <thoreauputic> pmanager: IIRC
[06:51] <oatis> How to you toggle between Desktops?
[06:51] <oatis> in Gnome
[06:51] <thoreauputic> oatis: ctrl-alt- arrow
[06:52] <lnc> HermanDE, yep, dvd points to scd0
[06:52] <dtry_> lol
[06:52] <oatis> Coolness, thanks
[06:52] <dtry_> didn't work
[06:52] <dtry_> have to rerun it
[06:53] <thoreauputic> dtry_: try the vesa driver then
[06:53] <wastrel> angband is complicated
[06:53] <dtry_> what is vesa anyway?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> at least that can get you going
[06:53] <HermanDE> lnc: in vlc do you have the dvd device pointing to dvd or scd0?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> dtry_: sort of generic
[06:53] <Psykus> i'm just going to reboot now, that will probably fix it
[06:53] <dtry_> ic
[06:53] <dtry_> its downloading packages
[06:54] <pmanager> thoreauputic: am i registered already?
[06:54] <dtry_> it downloads by itself
[06:54] <dtry_> after the error
[06:54] <HermanDE> dtry_: video electronic standards association  (I think....  From the VESA-LB days...:-
[06:54] <dtry_> ic
[06:54] <pmanager> thoreauputic: what's IIRC?
[06:54] <pbransford> can I pipe output from one program directly into a .bz2 file?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> pmanager: doesn't look like it - try  /masg nickserv help
[06:55] <normal1> anyone know a good proxifer
[06:55] <HermanDE> pbransford: Welcome to the world of bash....  YES....
[06:55] <thoreauputic> IIRC + if I remember correctly
[06:55] <normal1> for linux of course
[06:55] <bad_iNFO> am i better off running nvidia's drivers or the one's that come with ubuntu?
[06:55] <pmanager> thoreauputic: ok.. now i got it
[06:55] <dtry_> i thought it was something related to IRC
[06:55] <HermanDE> normal1: a what?
[06:55] <dtry_> like the internet chat relay
[06:55] <dtry_> or relay chat even
[06:56] <normal1> something that alows my programs to run through proxies
[06:56] <wastrel> proxy server?
[06:56] <pbransford> HermanDE: ok, im gona be running tcpdump all night, and i see how i can have it output to the console instead of to a file. what should I pipe it to to output the stream into a compressed bz2 file?
[06:56] <pmanager> thoreauputic: I sent you a pm again... see it now?
[06:56] <bad_iNFO> what's the command for listing the channels again?
[06:56] <cafuego> bad_iNFO: if you need accelerated 3D, use the nvidia ones.
[06:56] <thoreauputic> pmanager: yep
[06:56] <normal1> =\
[06:56] <HermanDE> pbransford: Best choice is to pipe it into a tar....  bzip uses chunks...  tar is for streaming....
[06:57] <pbransford> ok, but isn't tar low compression?
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> got a Q: about wifi - if I can connect to the router + other computers on the network, but cant get past the network, is that usually a 'settings' thing or a prob. with the drivers/wifi adapter?
[06:57] <pmanager> thoreauputic: cool! ... will talk to you there, thanks!
[06:57] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, which channels?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> bad_iNFO:  /list - but don't do it unless you want to see thousands of channels :)
[06:57] <cafuego> pbransford: tar doesn't compress at all.
[06:57] <bad_iNFO> lol
[06:57] <HermanDE> pbransford: Sure that is where you use gzip.....
[06:57] <normal1> so no one knows ?
[06:57] <pbransford> basically what i have so far is: "tcpdump -i ath0 -w - |"
[06:57] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, ah ok..I see now
[06:57] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  you may not have your gateway set correctly - or the router is blocking you
[06:57] <bad_iNFO> i want to find a non formal room that would help with more then just ubunto
[06:57] <cafuego> HermanDE: Why bother with tar at all?
[06:58] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  settings, in other words
[06:58] <HermanDE> cafuego: chunking verses streaming.....
[06:58] <interferon> apt-get doesn't seem to confirm before installing packages - can this be configured?
[06:58] <nicholaspaul> wastrel: ok i'll try it out. :-) That helps me know what to blame !!
[06:58] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, #linux ?
[06:58] <pbransford> HermanDE: if it matters the program output is buffered (data comes out in bursts)
[06:59] <bad_iNFO> when something says non free linux does that mean u have to pay for it or is the free talking aboutsomething else?
[06:59] <wastrel> #linuxhelp
[06:59] <bad_iNFO> thanks
[06:59] <HermanDE> pbransford: Sure....   Then just pipe it through bzip... or tar...  or compress or .....
[06:59] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, no..you don't have to pay for it
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> bad_iNFO: well there is linux software you can buy. Some distros arent free too
[06:59] <pbransford> ok... can you give me a command line?
[06:59] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, you talking about from the repositories?
[07:00] <bad_iNFO> yes
[07:00] <Madpilot> bad_iNFO, non-free usually means that the sourcecode isn't free to modify/etc - stuff like Adobe's Acrobat Reader
[07:00] <dtry_> what xorg?
[07:00] <dtry_> is*
[07:00] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, I think its to do with whether the source is 'free'
[07:00] <dtry_> SuSE 10 is not free
[07:00] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, there is free as in beer and free as in free speech..is a analogy that is often used
[07:01] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, free as in free beer I meant to say
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> beer should be liberated....
[07:01] <mustard5> :)
[07:01] <HermanDE> pbransford: (not tested)  tcpdump -i ath0 -w - | tar -cf streamout.out
[07:01] <random0ne> hello.  Is there any way to dynamically set forwarders in bind9 based on resolv.conf (nameservers are assigned via dhcp)?
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> wastrel: where can i get Gateway settings? isnt it usually <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[07:02] <HermanDE> pbransford: or just use the tcpdump -w switch.....
[07:02] <random0ne> nicholaspaul: that is a netmask
[07:02] <random0ne> nicholaspaul: gateway is often assigned by dhcp. usually it is IP of the router
[07:02] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  what random0ne said :]
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> wastrel: ahh gotcha, random0ne :D
[07:03] <scelestus> does my router have to be set to channel 11?
[07:03] <dtry_> thoreauputic, what was the command again?
[07:03] <HermanDE> pbransford: do you know what you are looking for?
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> wastrel: random0ne should the ip address be put in the list of DNS servers too?
[07:03] <thoreauputic> dtry_:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:04] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  try putting the router's address there
[07:04] <pbransford> HErmanDE: would this work: "tcpdump -i ath0 -w - | gzip > dump.gz"
[07:04] <gregben> Just installed edubuntu 5.10 Video is 1280x1024 @76Hz. but should be 60Hz. because LCD. Also, card is accelerated OpenGL yet display is very sluggish.
[07:04] <dtry_> k
[07:04] <nicholaspaul> wastrel:  in the DNS server list?
[07:05] <pbransford> HermanDE: "echo "TEST" | gzip > test.gz && gzip -d -c test.gz" gave me the impression that it might work... I got "TEST" back as output
[07:05] <mustard5> gregben, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[07:05] <HermanDE> pbransford: gzip doesn't have a stdin option.....
[07:05] <pbransford> Doesn't need it :)
[07:05] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  if you have dns servers from your ISP it's not necessary - if not, the router may do dns ... mine does
[07:05] <gregben> mustard5: THX, I'll look now.
[07:05] <pbransford> try that echo command out
[07:06] <scelestus> wastrel:  does my router have to be set to channel 11?
[07:06] <nicholaspaul> aah gotcha. I'll try both, cos i was having trouble with repos wastrel
[07:06] <robbies> gregben: WE DONT NEED YOU BEING RUDE IN #EDUBUNTU
[07:06] <kuja> ?
[07:07] <wastrel> scelestus:  i really don't know anything about wireless config - mine just worked with no messing around (thank goodness)
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> thx for the help wastrel :)
[07:07] <tritium> robbies: please take it easy
[07:07] <HermanDE> pbransford: What are you looking for in your dump?
[07:07] <kuja> What was up with that?
[07:07] <scelestus> wastrel:  hmm...it keeps saying nodchpoffers
[07:07] <dtry_> thoreauputic, after that, how do you restart X?
[07:08] <mustard5> dtry_, startx
[07:08] <thoreauputic> dtry_: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  ( or startx)
[07:08] <tritium> or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:09] <robbies> HELP! SOMEONE CHANGED THE TOPIC TO SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN ON #EDUBUNTU
[07:09] <pbransford> HermanDE: nothing right now, i'm going to filter and such later...
[07:09] <mustard5> robbies, type !ops in that channel
[07:09] <wastrel> yuck
[07:09] <morfeo_> hola
[07:09] <robbies> THERE ARE NONE!
[07:09] <morfeo_> espaol??
[07:09] <tritium> robbies: please stop!
[07:09] <wastrel> !es
[07:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:10] <morfeo_> ok
[07:10] <HermanDE> pbransford: If you use tcpdump -w then you can easily use tcpdump to parse the results without grepping.....
[07:10] <pbransford> HermanDE, i dont want tcpdump to parse. i need the raw packets :)
[07:10] <tritium> robbies: never mind...sorrry
[07:10] <tritium> sorry even
[07:11] <pbransford> HermanDE, and i can use ethereal to parse later as well
[07:11] <pbransford> i just got it working i think
[07:11] <random0ne> hello.  Is there any way to dynamically set forwarders in bind9 based on resolv.conf? (The resolv.conf nameservers are assigned via dhcp.)
[07:12] <HermanDE> pbransford: And that's where the -w kicks into high gear......
[07:12] <pbransford> nevermind, gzip chokes on unexpected EOF if I ctrl-C tcpdump
[07:13] <HermanDE> pbransford: Hey look at that.....  chunking...  :)
[07:13] <pbransford> i was just trying to compress the dump on-the-fly
[07:13] <pbransford> i suppose if i send the tcpdump the term signal rather than the whole pipe it _might_ work?
[07:13] <HermanDE> pbransford: Then use star with bzip.....  star is a faster tar....  Think supertar.
[07:14] <pbransford> cause ctrl-c will kill gzip too, right?
[07:14] <HermanDE> pbransford: I'd guess that's correct....
[07:14] <pbransford> hmm, worth further exploration but i need to sleep. work tomorrow :)
[07:14] <HermanDE> pbransford: You need a streaming compression system.....
[07:14] <pbransford> i got the HD space, i guess I'll just deal with it
[07:14] <HermanDE> pbransford: Could always mpeg it....
[07:15] <pbransford> lol
[07:15] <pbransford> mmm lossy packet dump
[07:15] <blanky> hey guys
[07:15] <pbransford> well i gota go, going into monitor mode will boot me rather ungracefully
[07:15] <HermanDE> pbransford: You would be amazed as to how ffmpeg can compress...
[07:15] <interferon> is it safe to add debian-unstable as a repository in ubuntu?
[07:15] <Madpilot> interferon, probably not
[07:16] <HermanDE> interferon: Nothing is safe....  Disconnect your computer now....
[07:16] <pbransford> thanks for the help though HermanDE
[07:16] <HermanDE> pbransford: np....
[07:16] <pbransford> if i get it all figured out i'll try to remember to let you know
[07:16] <blanky> i instlaled kubuntu-desktop, and when it asked me if i wanted to use kdm or gdm, i said gdm, but now I'd like to use kdm, is there a way to change?
[07:17] <random0ne> hello.  Is there any way to dynamically set forwarders in bind9 based on resolv.conf? (The resolv.conf nameservers are assigned via dhcp.)
[07:17] <pbransford> ... i know! convert the signal to PCM data, flac it, and when ready to read it pass it from PCM back to data
[07:17] <pbransford> hehe
[07:17] <HermanDE> pbransford: Actually, flac might be a good solution....  Just don't listen to it...
[07:18] <pbransford> lol
[07:18] <pbransford> Audio compression turned data compression. that would raise a few eyebrows
[07:18] <pbransford> hmmm if i input it as raw data i won't even need conversion
[07:18] <pbransford> flacenc will take "raw" audio, won't it?
[07:19] <HermanDE> pbransford: Good compression algos are good algos...  Who cares if it's audio, video, porn...  Numbers are still numbers....
[07:19] <pbransford> arg! stop thinking! must sleep!
[07:19] <pbransford> Hehe see you around sometime
[07:19] <HermanDE> pbransford: I haven't tried...  I did try the mpeg stuff.....  Made some good artwork out of a tape dump....
[07:20] <whyMan> hello all
[07:20] <HermanDE> whyMan: All told me to say "hello"
[07:26] <whyMan> pls hekp me.. i want to connect my linux to novell server, pls guide me
[07:26] <random0ne> hello.  Is there any way to dynamically set forwarders in bind9 based on resolv.conf? (The resolv.conf nameservers are assigned via dhcp.)
[07:26] <HermanDE> whyMan: Which version of novell?
[07:27] <whyMan> vovell 3.12
[07:27] <Frogzoo> is there a repo with a more recent gimp than 2.2.8 ?
[07:27] <whyMan> novel 3.12
[07:27] <HermanDE> random0ne: Just a thought....  Try and use dnsmasq
[07:27] <seth|away> Frogzoo, Dapper has .10-1ubuntu2
[07:27] <whyMan> Hermande : Novell Netware 3.12
[07:28] <dtry_> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[07:28] <dtry_>       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[07:28] <HermanDE> whyMan: Ok, why do you want to connect to that?  It really is over 10 years old.....
[07:28] <dtry_> any ideas?
[07:28] <dtry_> sorry for the paste
[07:28] <random0ne> HermanDE: heh.  yeah, i was using it...but it doesn't support the features that i wanted.
[07:29] <HermanDE> random0ne: then make a script in your dhclient to update/restart your bind....  There are probably better ways...  But this will kill the cat real good....
[07:29] <GullyFoyle>     /window grow 6
[07:29] <whyMan> HermanDE : u right, we still use that version for old apllication (DBASE), the server is as file server too
[07:30] <random0ne> HermanDE: i thought about a post-up script in /etc/network/interfaces, but i was hoping there was a prefab way
[07:30] <delmar> Hrm. I would have thought that after installing the Nvidia drivers and such, that I would be able to change the resolution.  The Display subsections are in the xorg.conf ok... but still I can only use 640x480 :(
[07:30] <HermanDE> whyMan: eewww....  Uh....  The last time I connected to an IPX server was years ago....  you need to load the IPX module and the novell utils.....
[07:31] <HermanDE> random0ne: the post up will only work when you connect...  Not when the dhcp refreshes.....
[07:31] <Frogzoo> seth|away: thx - I'll give it a go
[07:31] <madewokherd> I have a video card with tv in
[07:31] <random0ne> HermanDE: excellent to know.  thank you.
[07:32] <madewokherd> what sort of program should I be looking for to watch tv?
[07:32] <HermanDE> madewokherd: mplayer.....
[07:32] <HermanDE> madewokherd: xawtv
[07:33] <HermanDE> whyMan: Just a thought....  Do you have ftp access?
[07:34] <blanky> yafray with blender is good at crashing lol
[07:34] <sesq> Hello, I  have got problem while installing EsounD, after 'make' i have error:
[07:34] <dtry_> how do update from ubuntu site to see if you have updates available for downloads?
[07:34] <sesq> esd.h:292: error: syntax error before 'AFfilehandle'
[07:35] <hanasaki> i am having trouble gettting firefox to work through esd..
[07:35] <robbie_> hi, does the ubuntu default apache setup have virtualhosts installed?
[07:35] <robbie_> if so wheres the default virtualhost defined
[07:36] <delmar> I can understand why ubunto might be unhappy running in more than 640x480 before I setup and install the nvidia drivers, but does anyone know what the story is with changing the resolution once thats all done? the Screen REs prefs still only allows 640x480 :(
[07:40] <sdfzx> how can i put a http proxy here in my ubuntu?
[07:40] <Frogzoo> ok, how stable is dapper these days - I might have to make the jump from breezy...
[07:41] <Frogzoo> sdfzx: maybe just install apache & enable proxy module?
[07:42] <manils> what it dew
[07:42] <tritium> sdfzx: you want to set a proxy for y our clients?
[07:43] <random0ne> HermanDE: heh.  looks like resolvconf package has a script to update bind
[07:43] <HermanDE> random0ne: Like I said....  Will kill the cat....
[07:43] <daidungsi> hello
[07:43] <HermanDE> hello....
[07:44] <daidungsi> how to install file .gz
[07:44] <daidungsi> how to install a program ?
[07:44] <suryam>
[07:44] <Frogzoo> daidungsi: probly just gunzip & read the README
[07:44] <hanasaki> where can i find a codec to play .asx?
[07:44] <suryam> hanasaki: mplayerhq.hu
[07:45] <delmar> hanasaki, porn :)
[07:45] <whyMan> hermanDE : ftp access ?? why ??
[07:45] <daidungsi> how to install a program ?
[07:45] <delmar> daidungsi, the package manager?
[07:45] <hanasaki> is that what it is? dam.. someone asked me to get it isntalled.
[07:45] <delmar> daidungsi, what program?
[07:45] <hanasaki> thought mplayer was nerim.net?
[07:45] <suryam> hanasaki: no
[07:45] <daidungsi> a file have extension .gz
[07:46] <mikebot> does anyone know why my school email account is in it's own folder in thunderbird, but my other email accounts are not?
[07:46] <daidungsi> can you tell more detail ?
[07:46] <delmar> daidungsi, what program
[07:46] <suryam> hanasaki: most/all windoze codecs mplayer can handle, just get codecs from mplayerhq.hu
[07:46] <hanasaki> hmm what is at nerim?
[07:46] <suryam> hanasaki: never heard of nerim
[07:46] <hanasaki> ok.. what is the deb line in sources
[07:47] <HermanDE> whyMan: It's easier to connect to ftp than novell file shares....
[07:47] <delmar> yay. ubuntu been running 1hr and desktop/Xorg crashing nicely.
[07:47] <eng> hi, is there a simple way to test if xgl is running?
[07:47] <suryam> eng: glxgears?
[07:47] <Frogzoo> delmar: which vid card?
[07:47] <eng> oh that works
[07:47] <delmar> Frogzoo, 6600
[07:48] <eng> does compiz require xgl?
[07:49] <hanasaki> hmm so what is the line in sources for the repository at mplayerhq
[07:49] <whyMan> HermanDE : the problem is, the document (doc & xls) is in novell right now, but i need to connect,
[07:50] <sdfzx> tritium,  i want to hide my IP using http proxy
[07:50] <overrider> say i have connected to a smb share and am able to view the files there. now in thunderbird i want to attach a file which is on that share. how can i select it as an attachment?
[07:50] <sdfzx> how can i make it?
[07:50] <robbie_> interesting...sites-enabled has symlinks to sites-available.. never seen that setup before
[07:50] <Frogzoo> !tell delmar about nvidia
[07:50] <HermanDE> whyMan: bad stuff.....
[07:50] <delmar> OK this is driving me insane. Why can't I change the freakin resolution from 640x480 !
[07:50] <mikebot> does anyone know what program this is: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=26980&file1=26980-1.jpg&file2=26980-2.png&file3=26980-3.png&name=Water+Vapor
[07:51] <Frogzoo> !tell delmar about xorg
[07:51] <wastrel> mikebot:  looks like rhythmbox (?)
[07:51] <delmar> Frogzoo, thank you very much but I did all the nvidia stuff and it is loading accordingly.
[07:51] <Frogzoo> hmm...
[07:51] <mikebot> wastrel: why does everyone hate rythymbox then? it looks very good
[07:51] <sdfzx> i luv xmms
[07:52] <wastrel> mikebot:  i dunno :]
[07:52] <delmar> Frogzoo, and I fail to see how doing a reconfig on Xorg will help.. the Display subsections look find in xorg.conf
[07:52] <delmar> Frogzoo, but im gonna try a reconf anyway... just a sec
[07:52] <mikebot> i cna;'t find a good theme
[07:52] <HermanDE> whyMan: Check out the ncpfs module in the kernel....
[07:52] <wastrel> delmar:  your modes for your monitor may not be correct...
[07:53] <Frogzoo> !tell delmar about refresh
[07:53] <deepwoodz> i have a problem guys that i need some help on
[07:53] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[07:53] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:53] <deepwoodz> lol id o
[07:54] <deepwoodz> okay my gnome terminal got uninstalled
[07:54] <sdfzx> :(
[07:54] <sdfzx> pls help
[07:54] <deepwoodz> so i cant i cant reinstall it
[07:54] <delmar> wastrel, it detected it all fine but could be... but if that were the case.. the modes that are in the Xorg.conf would work.. it would just trash the screen... they are not even working yet are in xorg.conf... ie ctrl-alt- +/- not working.. and the system prefs thing wont allow it either
[07:54] <deepwoodz> cuz i dont have a terminal
[07:54] <sdfzx> i want to use proxy so that i can surf anonymously
[07:54] <clever`rev> ctrl+alt+f1 to get out of the x server
[07:54] <sdfzx> pls help
[07:54] <clever`rev> alt+f7 to get bacl
[07:54] <XpCrash> how do i get wine to emulate windows 2k
[07:54] <clever`rev> when out of the x server you can run cmds in console mode
[07:55] <Frogzoo> sdfzx: you need to find an open anonymous proxy & point your browser at it - this isn't really an ubuntu problem...
[07:55] <Frogzoo> XpCrash: winecfg
[07:55] <XpCrash> in shell
[07:55] <delmar> Frogzoo, ok here we go... i can never remember this part... select desired X server... "nv" or "nvidia".
[07:55] <wastrel> deepwoodz:  in gnome alt-f2 will get a "run" dialog box.  type xterm there
[07:55] <deepwoodz> iok
[07:55] <deepwoodz> thanx
[07:55] <wastrel> er, ctrl-f2
[07:56] <sdfzx> i mean how can i put a proxy
[07:56] <XpCrash> thinks its a bad idea to emu xp or no
[07:56] <sdfzx> im new in ubuntu
[07:56] <deepwoodz> damn it ur a lifesaver
[07:56] <delmar> Frogzoo, im thinking nvidia huh?
[07:56] <deepwoodz> tahnx man
[07:56] <wastrel> no it was alt-f2 heh
[07:56] <wastrel> yw
[07:56] <Frogzoo> delmar: dunno, sorry - check the wiki best
[07:58] <deepwoodz> damn i should of just came in here earlier i been foolin with this shit all day
[07:58] <deepwoodz> but i was tryin to learn on my own
[07:58] <sdfzx> is there a firewall in ubuntu?
[07:58] <whyMan> HermanDE : WhyMan : Check out the ncpfs module in the kernel.. <------i'am the newbie, how to check ???
[07:58] <deepwoodz> okay next question while im here
[07:58] <rikai> sdfzx, install firestarter
[07:58] <wastrel> deepwoodz:  xterm is installed with the X server, so should always be available.
[07:58] <deepwoodz> i  can emulator my xbox360 controller driver right since there is none for linux (that i know of)
[07:59] <deepwoodz> o
[07:59] <deepwoodz> i didtn know that
[07:59] <XpCrash> my hardware sucks so should i set the direct 3d to emulate if i want half life to run good
[07:59] <deepwoodz> just started messin with linux
[07:59] <sdfzx> okies
[07:59] <mikebot> does anyone know why ubuntu is lagger than ym windows is?
[07:59] <sdfzx> thanks rikai
[07:59] <XpCrash> or just leave it at 3d
[07:59] <XpCrash> or hardware rather
[08:00] <iceman> i need help. my sound does not work in et ?
[08:00] <iceman> et --- Enemy terratory ?
[08:01] <HermanDE> whyMan: you might need to do a bit of reading......
[08:01] <iceman> !et
[08:01] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iceman
[08:01] <iceman> !enemy terratory
[08:01] <ubotu> iceman: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:02] <iceman> why does my sound work normaly, but not in Enemy territory
[08:02] <XpCrash> can i get yahoo to work with wine , i like gaim but all the yahoo options arent there and sending files doesnt work
[08:03] <concept10> iceman, there is a thread about it in the forums
[08:03] <iceman> concept10 got a link
[08:04] <concept10> iceman, ubuntuforums.com ... search for enemy territory
[08:05] <celenk> is it possible that the mysterious mplayer process that I can't kill is the cause for my no sound in any other program?
[08:05] <Madpilot> iceman, before you start ET, open a terminal and type "killall esd", then start ET - that usually works for me
[08:05] <ichigo-san> i need help setting up a fserve. when xchat tries to load the plugin i get msg that says "Error loading '/home/onizuka/.xchat2/obsidian+.pl':
[08:05] <ichigo-san> Can't locate Devel/Cycle.pm "
[08:05] <wastrel> celenk:  it is possible
[08:06] <iceman> ty that did the trick ..
[08:06] <celenk> wastrel, do you have any idea how I can kill it?  I've tried kill 8184  killall mplayer  killall -i mplayer (then Y) both in root, and sudo'ing the commands
[08:07] <patrix> try kill -9
[08:07] <wastrel> yeah what patrix said.  kill -9 <pid>
[08:07] <wastrel> it is the "no really, kill it" option
[08:08] <celenk> patrix, wastrel, wow that worked, good option to know, why isn't that listed in the man?
[08:08] <overrider> when you are accessing a samba share , it seems not possible to attach a file from there to an email you are creating with thunderbird, cause when you click add attachment, there is nowhere to select the share from the add attachment dialog. any ideas how to do?
[08:08] <patrix> it isnt'!?!?!?
[08:09] <topyli> sure it is
[08:09] <celenk> hmm, maybe I missed it then
[08:09] <topyli> it's one of the signals
[08:10] <wastrel> it's short for -KILL
[08:11] <whoope> whats the command i can do to check hard drive size and how much is left i'm new to linux :/
[08:12] <trpr42> whoope: you can type df -h at the prompt
[08:13] <mikebot> not that i have linux, what are some cool things i can do?
[08:13] <whoope> trpr42 thanks that worked
[08:13] <mikebot> *now
[08:14] <XpCrash> how can i get wine to make it so internet explorer is version 6
[08:14] <mikebot> anyone?
[08:15] <wastrel> mikebot:  you can run all the programs in synaptic
[08:15] <Madpilot> mikebot, you can not get viruses :)
[08:15] <mikebot> wastrel: but that requires browsing 17,000 files
[08:15] <h3ax> ..
[08:15] <mikebot> madheh, how do i do that?
[08:15] <GeorgeAScott> i've got a 40g hd that is formatted ntfs.  i've read about the projects... but is there a way to reformat it and delete everything on it?
[08:16] <Madpilot> GeorgeAScott, of course, if you don't want any of the stuff on it
[08:16] <wastrel> mikebot:  well what do you want to do with your computer?
[08:16] <mikebot> oh i have a question like that too: i have files i need to access on an ntfs partition, and i copied them onto this partition, but theya re still read-only
[08:16] <mikebot> wastrel: i don't know, i don't relaly play games
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: i do want a note thingy like yahoo widgets has
[08:17] <topyli> GeorgeAScott: i'd delete the whole partition with fdisk, create and format a new one
[08:17] <GeorgeAScott> im in the process of backing it all up now.... what do i do to reformat it then?
[08:17] <wastrel> mikebot:  another thing to do is search freshmeat for interesting programs and then check if they're in synaptic
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: but the one that comes with this is very ugly
[08:17] <Madpilot> mikebot, install TomBoy, it's a cool little notetaking app
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: what is freshmeat?
[08:17] <mikebot> Madpilot: okay, thanks
[08:17] <thoreauputic> mikebot: or just use the search function in syanaptic...
[08:17] <thoreauputic> *synaptic
[08:18] <wastrel> mikebot:  freshmeat.net  - place where new apps are announced
[08:18] <thoreauputic> mike4263: or indeed  apt-cache search keyword
[08:18] <mikebot> wastrel: ah okay
[08:18] <wastrel> i'm trying to figure out pymol myself
[08:18] <mikebot> Madpilot: oh, when i said notes, i meant like
[08:18] <B_166-ER-X> whats the command to force the trash to empty ?
[08:19] <mikebot> Madpilot: postit notes, like reminders, a to-do list type thing
[08:19] <Madpilot> mikebot, you can use tomboy for that - I use it for all sorts of things
[08:19] <mikebot> Madpilot: ah, okay
[08:19] <delmar> So I just installed samba on here...I dont see any ubuntu front end to configuring the samba settings.. is there? or do we just edit smb.conf or use "swat" etc..?
[08:19] <mikebot> also, do you guys know why ubuntu seems really laggy compared to my windows?
[08:20] <topyli> mikebot: there's also a panel apple for old-style sticky notes for your desktop
[08:20] <topyli> applet even
[08:20] <Madpilot> mikebot, after you install tomboy, it's got a panel applet you can add, to get to it faster
[08:20] <mikebot> okay
[08:20] <mikebot> do you guys know how to make the applications and places and system folders on my panel smaller, or eliminate one?
[08:21] <wastrel> mikebot:  firefox on breezy is slow - if you upgrade to 1.5 it is much faster.   dunno about other performance issues
[08:21] <Madpilot> mike4263, the menu titles, you mean?
[08:21] <mikebot> upgrade what to 1.5?
[08:21] <h3ax> anyone good with FTP, internet, Vmware ?
[08:21] <thoreauputic> mike4263: you can make the panel smaller by right click - properties
[08:21] <wastrel> mikebot:  upgrade firefox to 1.5
[08:21] <kosachev> Hi , i install wmaker on my Ubuntu and can't create new  user window .. anybody know solve ?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> mike4263: most applets can be removed and added - same deal, right click
[08:22] <mikebot> do i upgrade it via synaptic
[08:22] <jieying> how to upgrade firefox
[08:22] <thoreauputic> bah those were for mikebot
[08:22] <thoreauputic> sorry
[08:22] <wastrel> mikebot:  unfortunately not
[08:22] <wastrel> !ff1.5
[08:22] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:22] <kosachev> !ff1.5
[08:22] <jieying> thanks
[08:23] <wastrel> kosachev:  did you install wmaker with apt?
[08:23] <h3ax> .. well i have a series of problems .. 1. PureAdmin claims to be "PureFTPd not running" 2. Outside connection to the DHCP address VMware has generated is refused by what i dont know
[08:24] <shukhrat> hi all i would like re-install my MySQL(actually MySQL not installed ask depends) i tryed install MySQL but still no result
[08:24] <kosachev> wastrel, yes , i'm install it from sudo apt-get install wmaker
[08:24] <mikebot> wastrel: thanks for the guide, i'm following it now, brb
[08:24] <wastrel> !synaptic
[08:24] <ubotu> I guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:24] <Madpilot> !tell shukhrat about lamp
[08:25] <shukhrat> Madpilot it not work i tryed
[08:25] <wastrel> kosachev:  and the new user error - when does that appear?
[08:26] <Madpilot> shukhrat, which part didn't work?
[08:26] <shukhrat> when i type sudo apt-get install mysql server 4.1 it say like this ...
[08:27] <kosachev> wastrel, i think you don't understand me - i can't create new workspace in wmaker
[08:27] <jieying> #ubuntu-zh irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-zh
[08:27] <shukhrat> shukhrat@localhost:~$ sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[08:27] <shukhrat> Reading package lists... Done
[08:27] <shukhrat> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:27] <shukhrat> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[08:27] <shukhrat> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[08:27] <shukhrat> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[08:27] <shukhrat> or been moved out of Incoming.
[08:27] <shukhrat> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[08:27] <shukhrat> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[08:27] <shukhrat> that package should be filed.
[08:27] <shukhrat> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[08:27] <shukhrat> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:27] <shukhrat>   mysql-server-4.1: Depends: mysql-common-4.1 (>= 4.1.12-1ubuntu3) but it is not installable
[08:27] <shukhrat>                     Depends: mysql-client-4.1 (>= 4.1.12-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[08:27] <shukhrat>                     Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable
[08:27] <wastrel> kosachev:  oic.
[08:27] <shukhrat> E: Broken packages
[08:29] <Kevin> hey
[08:29] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, gah, should have de-voiced, not kicked...
[08:29] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: too late :)
[08:29] <wastrel> kosachev:  i haven't used windowmaker for a long time.   the new workspace menu option does nothing?
[08:29] <Kevin> i gota question for you guys
[08:29] <purplefeltangel> kevin: ask away
[08:30] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, still getting used to XChat...
[08:30] <Kevin> i just installed ubuntu on a dying, 4 yearold laptop
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I guess he'll return...
[08:30] <Kevin> and when i use the touchpad, the motion is jerky
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I have a couple of aliases set up
[08:30] <shukhrat> Madpilot Thanks !
[08:30] <Kevin> it jerks every 4seconds or so
[08:30] <kosachev> wastrel, monitor blinking , but no new workspace appears.
[08:30] <Kevin> any ideas on how to fix it?
[08:30] <Kevin> a usb mouse works fine...
[08:30] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: don't paste any more please
[08:30] <Madpilot> shukhrat, next time, don't paste to channel, use a pastebin
[08:31] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:31] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:31] <shukhrat> Madpilot maybe i should re-install Ubuntu ?
[08:31] <wastrel> kosachev:  you mean no new workspace appears in the workspaces menu?
[08:31] <Madpilot> shukhrat, pastebin your error so we can see it
[08:31] <shukhrat> pastebin what is this ?
[08:31] <kosachev> wastrel, yes , and no access from alt+digit
[08:32] <timfrost> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:33] <thoreauputic> shukhrat seems to be having a few IRC problems here ;-)
[08:33] <kosachev> wastrel, may i debug this error - how to enable debug mode with wmaker ?
[08:33] <shukhrat> :O
[08:33] <wastrel> kosachev:  i don't know.
[08:33] <dtry_> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[08:33] <dtry_>       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[08:33] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: you paste your errors on the URL uboto gave, then tell us what it is
[08:33] <dtry_> any ideas?
[08:33] <jb1> anybody successfully using a USB scanner in dapper?
[08:34] <Madpilot> shukhrat, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:34] <concept10> jb1, my hp all in one works
[08:34] <Madpilot> shukhrat, then paste ONLY THE URL back here
[08:35] <h3ax> no one able to help out with any of this
[08:35] <h3ax> ?
[08:35] <jb1> Madpilot: I have an Epson 2450 that gives me a preview but refuses to scan.
[08:35] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: unless of course you enjoy being kicked or gagged ;-)
[08:35] <IroeL> hi room.. can you help me..?
[08:35] <shukhrat> thoreauputic thanks !
[08:35] <Madpilot> jb1, I don't know anything about scanners, sorry
[08:35] <concept10> getting kicked the first time is fun
[08:35] <thoreauputic> IroeL: hard to say if you don't ask :)
[08:36] <IroeL> i've install php use synaptic package manager, and it works
[08:36] <IroeL> but, the php doesn't support mysql
[08:36] <patrix> install php-mysql or something like that
[08:36] <IroeL> so, what can i do? i want the php support with mysql
[08:36] <jb1> Madpilot: OK. I've googled and tried every trick on the net but I think this has to be resolved at the code level upstream
[08:36] <Madpilot> !scanners
[08:36] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:36] <delmar> Sorry, I asked this before but didn't notice a response... I can't see anything within ubuntu/xorg gui for configuring samba options/paramaters.. is there anything? or do we just edit smb.conf manually or use Swat.. to configure it?
[08:36] <Madpilot> jb1, see those pags ^^^
[08:37] <patrix> IroeL: install php-mysql or some similar package (not sure of the name in ubuntu)
[08:37] <jb1> Madpilot: thanks :)
[08:37] <timfrost> !tell IroeL -about lamp
[08:37] <thoreauputic> IroeL: install php4-mysql  (or php5-mysql if that's what you have )
[08:37] <shukhrat> who can help me ! please ! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9580
[08:37] <shukhrat> MySQL don't want install
[08:37] <robbie_> I got E: package mysql has no installation candidate
[08:37] <IroeL> patrix, but i'm in cybercafe now, so i just ssh to my server
[08:37] <thoreauputic> robbie_: see above
[08:38] <thoreauputic> robbie_: php4-mysql or php5-mysql
[08:38] <concept10> jb1, I think they have changed the printer drivers in dapper, I cant even get into xsane now. :(
[08:38] <robbie_> install php-mysql?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> ah or php4 etc of course
[08:38] <robbie_> ok
[08:38] <thoreauputic> robbie_: sorry got you mixed with IroeL
[08:38] <shukhrat> thoreauputic like this ?
[08:39] <h3ax> !tell h3ax -about lamp
[08:39] <wastrel> sigh, my vnc is b0rken
[08:39] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: like what?
[08:39] <shukhrat> who can help me ! please ! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9580
[08:39] <shukhrat> MySQL don't want install
[08:39] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: be patient, someone will look
[08:39] <TylerWalts> flog the dolphin
[08:39] <odat> anyone ever use dvdripper?
[08:40] <sdfzx> what is swap area?
[08:40] <concept10> too many drivers are being changed in the transistion from breezy to dapper... I hope its not a disaster
[08:40] <sdfzx> i partitioned my drive 1gb for swap area
[08:40] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: have you enabled the universe repo?
[08:40] <sdfzx> did i do the right thing? hehe
[08:40] <timfrost> !swap
[08:40] <ubotu> I heard swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[08:40] <thoreauputic> !tell shukhrat about repositories
[08:41] <sdfzx> aw
[08:41] <wastrel> i can't connect to my vnc server, get   ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)
[08:41] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: read ubotu's /msg
[08:41] <sdfzx> so what is the ideal size for swap area?
[08:41] <wastrel> i've restarted the server, same problem --- any love?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: how much RAM do you have?
[08:41] <Vufer> hi all... i have just installl ubuntu, and... HOW CAN I LISTEN MY MP3???? :)
[08:42] <mylo> sdfzx, twice your RAM
[08:42] <shukhrat> thoreauputic i' am new in linux what is repositories
[08:42] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[08:42] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:42] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[08:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:42] <Madpilot> shukhrat, that's where apt-get installs software from
[08:42] <sdfzx> 256 sdram
[08:42] <sdfzx> aw
[08:42] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: read that URL
[08:42] <sdfzx> :(
[08:42] <mylo> sdfzx, half if you have > 8GB AFAIK
[08:42] <Vufer> but in oder distributives mp3 included...
[08:42] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: 500MB or so is plenty for swap
[08:43] <shukhrat> :)  !
[08:43] <thoreauputic> Vufer: read the URl and you will have mp3 playback
[08:43] <sdfzx> i used 1gb for swap area
[08:43] <sdfzx> hehe
[08:43] <dobblego> can you have one screen resolution setting per user?
[08:43] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: that's OK
[08:43] <sdfzx> then 2gb for the base sytem
[08:43] <sdfzx> i mean for ext3
[08:44] <sdfzx> is that ok?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: not really enough - a standard install takes about 1.8 GB
[08:44] <sdfzx> aw
[08:44] <Madpilot> sdfzx, you probably want a root partition of at least 5Gb
[08:45] <sdfzx> for ubuntu?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: I would give Ubuntu at least 5GB if you can - preferably more
[08:45] <sdfzx> aw
[08:45] <sdfzx> so i have to repartitioined again
[08:45] <overrider> when mounting a samba share using smbmount, how can i make it so a normal user can mount his samba share, not only root?
[08:45] <sdfzx> aw
[08:45] <sdfzx> is there anyway to repartition without formatting again?
[08:45] <sdfzx> so that my files wont be deleted
[08:45] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: and you don't really need 1GB swap - but it won't hurt to leave it at that
[08:46] <shukhrat> thoreauputic: thanks for your help; could you give me an example. I am very new to Linux, thanks!
[08:47] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: an example of a repository?
[08:47] <Vufer> sorry, but sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad don't working :(
[08:47] <shukhrat> yes
[08:47] <Madpilot> shukhrat,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[08:47] <Garlaxel> Quick Question whats the name of the base develop packer to install a sane build enviroment?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Vufer: you need to enable repositories
[08:47] <Madpilot> Vufer, have you enabled the Universe repo?
[08:47] <Vufer> how i can do it?
[08:48] <Madpilot> Garlaxel, build-essential?
[08:48] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: just read the URl and you'll get an understanding
[08:48] <Madpilot> !tell Vufer about repos
[08:48] <Garlaxel> thanks mad.
[08:48] <Madpilot> np
[08:48] <thoreauputic> shukhrat:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:48] <jetsirus> Anyone on here have a spare moment for some tech help? :)
[08:49] <sdfzx> waa
[08:49] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: that's what the channel is for - just ask
[08:49] <XpCrash> sudo apt-get install kde , will that work for kde desktop
[08:49] <sdfzx> i just installed ubuntu for learning purpose
[08:49] <thoreauputic> XpCrash:  install kubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <sdfzx> but now im starting to luv it
[08:49] <XpCrash> sudo
[08:50] <jetsirus> The problem:  Can run Synaptic Package Manager, Updater, Users and Groups and several other things.
[08:50] <sdfzx> huhu thats why i partitioned my disk  3gb only for ubuntu
[08:50] <sdfzx> ehehe
[08:50] <thoreauputic> XpCrash:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <sdfzx> i have a question again abut the sudo
[08:50] <jetsirus> They ask for a password once, and then do nothing after that.
[08:50] <sdfzx> do i have to logon as SU to install or just sudo alone
[08:50] <Madpilot> jetsirus, using your own user pw?
[08:50] <Madpilot> !sudo
[08:50] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:50] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: you give your user password?
[08:50] <jetsirus> Yes,
[08:51] <Madpilot> sdfzx, see the RootSudo URL ^^^
[08:51] <XpCrash> does kopete come with it
[08:51] <jetsirus> Its my user login password.
[08:51] <thoreauputic> XpCrash: kopete is in kubuntu, yes
[08:51] <wastrel> prolly that groups bug
[08:51] <sdfzx> hehehe
[08:51] <XpCrash> is it the latest version
[08:51] <sdfzx> thnks
[08:52] <thoreauputic> !info kopete
[08:52] <ubotu> kopete: (instant messenger for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4214 kB, Installed size: 14332 kB
[08:52] <jetsirus> All the problems SEEM to have started after adding another user.
[08:52] <thoreauputic> XpCrash: that's the version ^^^
[08:52] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: check that the user is in the admin group
[08:52] <slvmchn> easy question: where to find/get libmp3lame.so?
[08:53] <jetsirus> How?  I can't use the GUI for users and don't know the terminal commands
[08:53] <XpCrash> ok , i dont mean to sound like a n00b
[08:53] <sdfzx> is there any filipino here?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> slvmchn: install liblame0
[08:53] <wastrel> jetsirus:  your login no longer has sudo access?  and it used to?
[08:53] <mikebot> fuck..i did somethign wrong
[08:53] <bliss1> hello all can some kind person tell me if my ssh server is working on port 44 at 4096.net please
[08:54] <bliss1> port22
[08:54] <jetsirus> Well, it has sudo acces..  But whenever I try to run something requireing it ask for password once and then nothing happens.
[08:54] <slvmchn> mp3 support?
[08:54] <Vufer> hmm.... i cant't do anything with synaptic after i try to take him "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047"
[08:54] <dobblego> on port 22 it is
[08:54] <thoreauputic> bliss1: yup it connects
[08:54] <dobblego> nothing on port 44
[08:54] <Vufer> Can anyone get stepbystep instruction? for noob :)
[08:55] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[08:55] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:55] <Garlaxel> ssh 4096.net seems to work
[08:55] <wastrel> jetsirus:  i've heard there's a bug with one of the GUI user management tools that messes up group membership... and apparently if you're not in the adm or admin group this behavior occurs
[08:55] <thoreauputic> slvmchn: ^^^
[08:55] <Madpilot> Vufer, open that URL in a browser
[08:55] <jetsirus> That may be the case..  Any idea how to fix it?
[08:55] <jetsirus> Cause all this started after I added another user.
[08:55] <slvmchn> thoreauputic: repo that has it?
[08:55] <slvmchn> it's not showing up in synaptic
[08:55] <bliss1> ok many thanks just one question how to stop computer hibernating or powering down when not at home
[08:55] <lordpau> mp3 runs as soon as you get the mmplayer installed..
[08:56] <thoreauputic> !info limp3lame0
[08:56] <thoreauputic> bah
[08:56] <Madpilot> slvmchn, please readhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:56] <thoreauputic> !info libmp3lame0
[08:56] <slvmchn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:56] <slvmchn> !info libmp3lame0
[08:56] <hink> I have a question.  I recently booted up a box that I haven't run in a while and I can't figure out what my log-in id is.  Is there anyway to find out what it is?
[08:56] <wastrel> jetsirus:  boot into rescue mode and edit groups.
[08:57] <thoreauputic> ah wrong name
[08:57] <ufo> does some one know who owns the ubotu?
[08:57] <thoreauputic> !info liblame0
[08:57] <ubotu> liblame0: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 147 kB, Installed size: 376 kB
[08:57] <thoreauputic> multiverse
[08:57] <wastrel> jetsirus:  use vigr or adduser/addgroup...
[08:57] <IroeL> hi patrix..
[08:57] <bliss1> thereauptic/dobblego thanks
[08:57] <IroeL> i try to do this.. Remove the ";" for the line ";extension=mysql.so", and restart Apache as is stated below.
[08:57] <Vufer> Synaptic stilll trying do something... i cant click on any buttons.... :(
[08:57] <IroeL> after i restart the apache2, no change..
[08:57] <Vufer> how i can safe kill his task?
[08:57] <jetsirus> Heh..  Complete noob here..  How do I boot into rescue mode...
[08:57] <bliss1> get a good intro to postfix?
[08:58] <hink> how do I get into rescue mode
[08:58] <eng> hi, any compiz experts around?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> hink: hit tab on boot, choose recovery/rescue
[08:58] <wastrel> jetsirus:  there should be an option in the boot menu
[08:58] <thoreauputic> hink: or type sudo init 1
[08:58] <hink> thank you
[08:58] <timfrost> !rescue
[08:58] <ubotu> from memory, rescue is Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode
[08:59] <malv> is eog just really crashy?
[08:59] <thoreauputic> hink: ubotu's way is another way - you can do it with the live CD too
[08:59] <thoreauputic> malv: no
[08:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:00] <malv> must be the amd 64 version
[09:00] <malv> crashes all the time
[09:00] <Madpilot> malv, try gThumb instead
[09:00] <thoreauputic> malv: try gqview ( or gthumb)
[09:00] <malv> evolution tends to do it on exit too
[09:00] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: great minds ... ;-)
[09:00] <wastrel> i can't connect to my vnc server, get   ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)    I've restarted the server, same error...  any ideas?
[09:00] <jetsirus> Ok.  Thanks..  I will give this stuff a try and be back soon.
[09:01] <ichigo-san> know where i can find perl plugin for xchat?
[09:02] <slvmchn> how to add multiverse to repos?
[09:02] <timfrost> wastrel, what happens if you try 'telnet <vnc server> 5900'?
[09:02] <slvmchn> for synaptic?
[09:02] <thoreauputic> ichigo-san: probably the xchat home page
[09:02] <mikebot> how can i open *.exe's?
[09:03] <wastrel> timfrost:  i get a connection and this text:   RFB 003.007
[09:03] <thoreauputic> mikebot: .exe is windows -  what are you wanting to do?
[09:03] <ichigo-san> thoreauputic: ive looked there but ill keep lookin thx
[09:04] <kosachev>  wmaker
[09:04] <mikebot> thoi download, from freshmeat.net, a linux program, in exe format
[09:04] <Madpilot> slvmchn, same way you added Universe
[09:04] <mikebot> thoreauputic*
[09:05] <thoreauputic> mike4263: don't try to install random stuff like that - what program?
[09:05] <mikebot> httrack
[09:05] <mikebot> haha
[09:05] <mikebot> i'm going to get viruses
[09:05] <thoreauputic> !info httrack
[09:05] <ubotu> httrack: (Copy websites to your computer (Offline browser)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 3.33.16-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[09:06] <mikebot> yeah, that
[09:06] <thoreauputic> mike4263: httrack is in universe
[09:06] <wastrel> mikebot:  check to if the program you're interested in is in synaptic before trying to install it from the web
[09:06] <thoreauputic> mikebot: sorry tab complete error
[09:06] <Madpilot> mikebot, if the bot knows about it, it's in Ubuntu's repos
[09:06] <wastrel> mikebot:  downloading and installing from the web is a last resort :]
[09:06] <thoreauputic> indeed
[09:06] <Besi> zdr
[09:07] <timfrost> wastrel, that indicates that the VNC server is up and accepting connections. Sounds like a config error.
[09:07] <Gopi> Any good TV viewing software other than xawtv and mythtv ??
[09:07] <mikebot> wastrel: thoreauputic oh okay
[09:07] <mikebot> i was just browsing freshmeat and saw it
[09:08] <Gopi> Actually Iam not able to record anything in xawtv....
[09:08] <di> is there a "spread ubuntu" community anywhere?
[09:08] <Gopi> but I am able to play TV in it !
[09:08] <mikebot> i downloaded some weather one from synaptic, but can't find it anywhere
[09:08] <George> blist
[09:08] <George> argh
[09:09] <thoreauputic> mikebot: when you see something interesting, always check to see if it's in synaptic :)
[09:09] <mikebot> thoreauputic: heh okay
[09:09] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:09] <Madpilot> mikebot, to get weather info: right-click on one of the desktop bars, click Add To Panel, find the Weather one
[09:09] <Gopi> And anyone know if mythtv works for 64 bit Athlon using Ubuntu for AMD64 ??
[09:09] <thoreauputic> mikebot: First thing, always - make it a habit :)
[09:09] <di> is there a "spread ubuntu" community anywhere?
[09:09] <mikebot> Madpilot: ahhhhhh thanks
[09:10] <mikebot> thoreauputic: okay
[09:10] <wastrel> timfrost:  i was afraid of that :]    i followed some mumbo-jumbo to tie vncserver with gdm & now it's not working (worked for a while anyway...)
[09:10] <Ashly> Shockwave still doesnt have a amd64 release I bet..
[09:10] <Besi> hi
[09:11] <Madpilot> mikebot, then right-click on the Weather app to get it aimed at the right city/airport/whatever
[09:11] <Madpilot> Ashly, Shockwave has no Linux releases at all
[09:11] <Ashly> I thought there was.. or was that whats it called..
[09:11] <mikebot> Madpilot: cool, got it, thanks
[09:11] <Ashly> *scratches her head*
[09:12] <Ribs> Ashly: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[09:12] <Ribs> check that out
[09:12] <Madpilot> Ashly, Flash for 32bit Linux exists - Shockwave doesn't
[09:12] <Ribs> they intend to support shockwave eventually...
[09:12] <Ashly> Im getting ubuntu right now, I havent ran linux in 2 years
[09:12] <mikebot> where would httrack have gone?
[09:12] <Ashly> Thats right Flash, they need a 64bit :P
[09:13] <thoreauputic> mikebot: try typing httrack in a terminal, or do  dpkg -L httrack | grep bin
[09:13] <mikebot> thoreauputic: okay
[09:13] <wastrel> g'night
[09:14] <delmar> Whats the ubuntu way of managing samba configeration please anyone?
[09:14] <mikebot> typing httrack worked, but i want to like open the actual porgam
[09:14] <thoreauputic> mikebot: you might check out webhttrack as well ( I 've never used either but that looks like a web frontend)
[09:14] <Madpilot> Ashly, you can run the 32bit Ubuntu on 64bit hardware, if you really need Flash & such
[09:14] <mikebot> thoreauputic: whta's the difference?
[09:14] <steve_> how do i disable pcmcia from attempting to start everytime I turn my desktop on?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> mikebot: I haven't used them - type"apt-cache show webhttrack" to read about it
[09:15] <thoreauputic> or read the description in synaptic
[09:16] <mikebot> dpkg -L httrack | grep bin
[09:16] <mikebot> /usr/bin
[09:16] <mikebot> /usr/bin/httrack
[09:16] <Ashly> There a graphical front end for apt in Ubuntu? :)
[09:16] <Ashly> btw, you guys are pretty helpful thanks :)
[09:16] <thoreauputic> mike4263: so it's /usr/bin/httrack ( but that's in your PATH anyway so just "httrack" works too
[09:17] <thoreauputic> mikebot: ^^
[09:17] <mikebot> thoreauputic: yeah, webhttrack is the samethign, but with a web interface, so i gues that's what i want
[09:17] <mikebot> heh
[09:17] <Madpilot> Ashly, it's called Synaptic
[09:17] <Ashly> ah ok :)
[09:17] <Madpilot> Ashly, pretty pictures here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:17] <mikebot> when the part of the name i type in is ambiguous, it doesn't put any name
[09:18] <Madpilot> mikebot, what doesn't?
[09:18] <Ashly> Madpilot, Thanks alot, I figured id try Ubuntu, since its the only other distro besides Fedora I havent used, and it seemed more feesable and friendly :)
[09:18] <mikebot> like if i type 'mad' then press tab
[09:18] <mikebot> it doesn't put maddler, but says 'maddler Madpilot '
[09:19] <thoreauputic> mikebot: hit tab twice
[09:19] <thoreauputic> right
[09:19] <Mantice> Can any one please help me emulating a 32 bit game called "enemy territory?
[09:19] <chr1z> heh
[09:19] <mikebot> thogue thoreauputic
[09:19] <mikebot> thogue thoreauputic
[09:19] <thoreauputic> mikebot: so you have the choice...
[09:19] <mikebot> but pressing tab multiple times doesn't put anything still
[09:19] <Madpilot> mikebot, which IRC app are you using?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> mikebot: I tend to forget to hit tab twice, so I make mistakes ;-)
[09:20] <Mantice> Can any one please help me emulating a 32 bit game called "enemy territory? on a AMD64 - Im currently geting a kernal panic error :(
[09:20] <mikebot> just gaim
[09:20] <mikebot> thoreauputic: ah
[09:20] <thoreauputic> mikebot: oh, use xchat
[09:20] <thoreauputic> mikebot: gaim is kind of crippled for IRC
[09:20] <jetsirus> Can anyone tell me how to start gnome from recovery?  Can't remember the command.
[09:20] <Mantice> i know this one
[09:20] <Madpilot> Mantice, check ubuntuforums.org - both the gaming & 64bit forums
[09:20] <mikebot> i like gaim because i simultaneously use aim, so it's convenient
[09:20] <mikebot> i use mirc with windows
[09:20] <Mantice> Thanks for the advice yet again Madpilot
[09:21] <thoreauputic> mikebot: fair enough - whatever you prefer
[09:21] <mikebot> thoreauputic: hehe, but i should try xchat
[09:21] <steve_> jetsirus, sudo gdm restart
[09:21] <jetsirus> Ok thanks.
[09:21] <thoreauputic> mikebot: if you want hard-core, try irssi ;)
[09:21] <Mantice> startx ?
[09:21] <michael_> doesn't have different color font for each user's name
[09:21] <michael_> heh
[09:21] <Madpilot> Mantice, startx starts X
[09:21] <michael_> does ubuntu come with irssi?
[09:21] <eng> just started using irssi..love it
[09:21] <thoreauputic> Mantice: if you only have gnome, startx should start gnome
[09:22] <thoreauputic> michael_: yes
[09:22] <michael_> ah i like that it's red when you say my name
[09:22] <sesq> how can i install E17 in easy way?
[09:22] <mustard5> how can you test a debian package safely to see if its going to work on ubuntu?
[09:22] <mikebot> okay well
[09:23] <mikebot> Madpilot: thoreauputic: thanks for all the help
[09:23] <thoreauputic> mustard5: are you sure it isn't in Ubuntu ?
[09:23] <mikebot> i'm going to sleep[
[09:23] <thoreauputic> mikebot: no worries :)
[09:23] <Madpilot> mikebot, no problem, good luck
[09:23] <mikebot> thanks
[09:23] <mikebot> night
[09:23] <thoreauputic> 'night
[09:23] <mustard5> thoreauputic, its from Debian I think...the freemind app..its got a .deb at sourceforge
[09:24] <thoreauputic> mustard5: hmm - doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu
[09:24] <mustard5> thoreauputic, yeah...I'm just curious about it
[09:24] <mustard5> thoreauputic, I'm wondering how I can install th .deb without risking my box :)
[09:24] <thoreauputic> mustard5: check the dependencies I guess - but debina packages are risky
[09:24] <thoreauputic> *debian
[09:25] <mustard5> thoreauputic, k...I suppose I could make a clean install on another partition and run it there :)
[09:25] <jetsirus> Ok..  Still haveing trouble running Synaptic or Users and Groups
[09:25] <jetsirus> Tried going into recovery and it still does nothing more than ask for a password.
[09:25] <thoreauputic> mustard5: or compile your own if you feel adventurous I guess...
[09:26] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, XChat has an autocorrection thing - 'teh' to 'the' and such
[09:26] <mustard5> thoreauputic, well I've tried using another install package, but I'm getting dependencies errors that I can't work out
[09:26] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: if you type "groups" in a terminal, is one of them "admin" ?
[09:26] <jetsirus> Let me check
[09:26] <mustard5> thoreauputic, the .deb package is just sitting there tempting to me to try it :D
[09:26] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: yeah I should config it to change debina to debian ;)
[09:27] <jetsirus> thoreauputic, no it is not
[09:27] <thoreauputic> mustard5: well i guess you can try it - it might complain about missing deps or whatever ( I wouldn't do it)
[09:27] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: well, you need to add the user to that group
[09:28] <jetsirus> How can I do that in a terminal?  I can't load the users and groups gui
[09:28] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: do you have a root password or just your sudo password?
[09:28] <jetsirus> sudo pass only I think
[09:28] <mustard5> thoreauputic, I suppose the main think I worry about is whether its going to install to places that it shouldnt due to differences in debian and ubuntu
[09:28] <mustard5> thoreauputic, I suppose the only way to know is to try :)
[09:29] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: if you boot from the install CD and choose "rescue" you should get a root prompt - you can chroot to your Ubuntu partition and add your user to "admin"
[09:29] <jetsirus> ack..
[09:29] <thoreauputic> mustard5: just don't complain if it breaks ;)
[09:29] <jetsirus> Let me take some notes here.
[09:30] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: also read "man visudo"
[09:30] <ufo> does someone know if dreamweaver works on wine?
[09:30] <jetsirus> Ok..    I noted down all you said.
[09:32] <jetsirus> the visudo manuel will give me info on editing user groups?
[09:32] <Madpilot> heatxsink, yes
[09:32] <heatxsink> Madpilot:  thanks
[09:32] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: you will probably have to mount the partition to chroot to it - you might need to mount /proc as welll
[09:33] <jetsirus> Ack....
[09:33] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: no man visudo tells you about sudo and /etc/sudoers
[09:33] <jetsirus> I think this may be beyond my scope.
[09:33] <thoreauputic> if you need to edit /etc/sudoers you should use the "visudo" command
[09:34] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: are *any* of your users in the "admin" group?
[09:34] <isolate> I just installed ubuntu and I don't know how to get my wireless card to work... can anyone help?
[09:34] <jetsirus> I honestly don't think so.
[09:35] <thoreauputic> if so, use that user for sudo
[09:35] <jetsirus> No..  Im sure they arnt.
[09:35] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: I'm puzzled as to how this happened...
[09:35] <jetsirus> It happened after I added a user.
[09:35] <jetsirus> After that, nothing admin wise worked for either user.
[09:35] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: that should not affect the first user unless you changed something
[09:36] <isolate> ......
[09:36] <jetsirus> I didn't..  Someone mentioned it was a bug.
[09:36] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: did you delete the first user?
[09:36] <jetsirus> I honestly don't know.
[09:36] <jetsirus> Nope.
[09:36] <thoreauputic> hmm
[09:36] <jetsirus> This is the first user. =)
[09:36] <thoreauputic> are you on dapper?
[09:36] <jetsirus> Nope.
[09:37] <jetsirus> Breezy badger 5.10
[09:37] <larard> Hi. I configured a ubuntu machine on a different network that uses static ips. I now want to switch to dhcp permanantly. I tried editing /etc/networks/interfaces, but it seems to be being ignored, and is getting some address in the 169.254 range rather than <IP_ADDRESS> range which my dhcp server sends out. dhclient eth0 configures it correctly however....
[09:37] <thoreauputic> well I'm on breezy and I have several users - never happened here :/
[09:37] <jetsirus> Everything was peachy untill new user..  So odd.
[09:37] <thoreauputic> odd indeed
[09:38] <jetsirus> So I need to type "adduser jetsirus admin" at the root bash or whatever from the recovery load?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> yes
[09:38] <jetsirus> I will try that and then get back to you.
[09:38] <jetsirus> Is there a way to kill gnome
[09:38] <Madpilot> jetsirus, then "shutdown -r now" to shutdown/restart the machine
[09:38] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: first do  less /etc/sudoers from the root prompt to see if the line is right
[09:38] <thoreauputic> jetsirus:  sudo requied to kill gnome
[09:38] <mustard5> isolate, have you read any guides yet?
[09:39] <thoreauputic> *required
[09:39] <jetsirus> drat
[09:39] <jetsirus> I ran this time in recovery and just typed "gdm"
[09:39] <mustard5> isolate, there are a couple I can point you at
[09:39] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: catch 22 - you can't do  init 1 without sudo/root either
[09:39] <isolate> @mustard5: I have read a few but they all tell me how to configure once it's already detected
[09:39] <Ashly> Do I have a choice between KDE or Gnome or is it auto Gnome upon Install?
[09:39] <isolate> I would appreciate that!
[09:39] <jetsirus> ok.  I will reboot and try this stuff.  I will let you guys now how it goes.
[09:39] <jetsirus> back in 5 or so.
[09:40] <mustard5> isolate, ah ok..which ones you looked at so far?
[09:40] <mustard5> !wifi
[09:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:40] <thoreauputic> Ashly: gnome by default
[09:40] <superante> hi..
[09:40] <thoreauputic> Ashly: if you want KDE install kubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <jetsirus> of course.
[09:40] <superante> i must install a printer
[09:40] <superante> lexmark t520
[09:40] <isolate> I don't know the urls anymore (it was on a different system)
[09:40] <Ashly> thoreauputic, ok, Im ganna have to get KDE after I get Ubuntu installed
[09:40] <mustard5> isolate, you see the link above in ubotu's message?
[09:40] <thoreauputic> Ashly: well, it's very easy as you see :)
[09:41] <isolate> yes
[09:41] <superante> but i don't know which is the correct driver for ubuntu
[09:41] <superante> http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:79:0:0
[09:41] <thoreauputic> Ashly: you know about kubuntu, right? You can get Kubuntu Cds too
[09:41] <Ashly> thoreuputic, Ive never ran Ubuntu, but I've used linux for years,
[09:41] <mustard5> isolate, there are a lot of resources there on the subject, both on that page and linked from that page
[09:41] <Syns> i cant get my hp officejet to work
[09:41] <Ashly> Except the last 2
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Ashly: are you familiar with apt-get?
[09:42] <Ashly> Yes
[09:42] <Ashly> Ive used debian
[09:42] <isolate> I will check those out.  thank you!
[09:42] <Ashly> But Im more of a slack girl..
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Ashly: well, Ubuntu is practically the same
[09:42] <mustard5> superante, I'll have a look, but I doubt I know either :)
[09:42] <Mantice> Can any one please help me emulating a 32 bit game called "enemy territory? on a AMD64 - Im currently geting a kernal panic error :( where abouts in the forums should I start looking?
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Ashly: if you know Debian, Ubuntu is a breeze
[09:43] <isolate> @larard can't you just use dhclient?
[09:43] <thoreauputic> pun not inteneded :)
[09:43] <Ashly> But hence I got a a 64bit machine and I wanted to see the 64bit linux, soo Im not useing slack :P
[09:43] <superante> mustard5, i wait
[09:43] <mustard5> superante, what about the Debian GNU ones?
[09:43] <mustard5> superante, ubuntu is based on debian
[09:43] <superante> i have ubuntu
[09:43] <superante> ok
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Ashly: the down side of 64bit is that some things are not available yet
[09:43] <superante> so debian?
[09:43] <Ashly> Yeah
[09:43] <Madpilot> Mantice, I already told you - the gaming forums or the AMD64 forums - use the search feature...
[09:43] <superante> i choose debian?
[09:43] <Ashly> Theres a smokeing section here?
[09:44] <Mantice> Ashly if you are a experenced linux user go the 64 way
[09:44] <mustard5> superante, well its the best I can see on that page
[09:44] <Determinist> aye
[09:44] <Mantice> and dont mind not having stuff like flash and gaming :( go the 64 way
[09:44] <mustard5> superante, thats not to say it will work though :)
[09:44] <Ashly> Mantice, I figured
[09:44] <superante> ok
[09:44] <larard> isolate: I can but I was wanting it to reboot happily.
[09:44] <superante> mustard5, tnx
[09:44] <Mantice> Well I was a n00b and went the 64 way lol :)
[09:45] <Mantice> Now I find theres no flash
[09:45] <mustard5> superante, you know how to install .deb files locally?
[09:45] <Determinist> could be nice if i had some ubuntu version to put on my pocket pc instead of that stinking windows mobile
[09:45] <Mantice> and I have to do extra extra special stuff to run linux games :(
[09:46] <Mantice> Man Im never buying a game that dont support linux :)
[09:46] <superante> mustard5, no..i try
[09:46] <superante> ;)
[09:46] <mustard5> superante, ok..well you need to use the dpkg command
[09:46] <superante> mmhh
[09:46] <mustard5> superante, sudo dpkg -i <fullnameofpackage.deb>
[09:46] <superante> tnxxx
[09:46] <superante> ;)
[09:47] <JakeK> what's the craze with ubuntu? what's so special?
[09:48] <superante> mustard5, 24 mb!!!!!! uazzz
[09:48] <mustard5> JakeK, I doubt there is a blanket answer for that
[09:48] <JakeK> it's like a rumour around the campus, almost like the girl who was pole dancing at a party the other night
[09:48] <isolate> how do you make the text red when speaking to a particular individual?
[09:48] <mustard5> superante, yeah? hopefully it works :)
[09:48] <thoreauputic> JakeK: it's such fun hearing people ask "what's special" ?
[09:48] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:48] <Madpilot> isolate, that happens automatically
[09:48] <superante> mustard5,  yeah
[09:48] <JakeK> is it one of those cool 'popular' phrases?
[09:48] <JakeK> or is it leet?
[09:48] <doro> umm, i installed ubuntu and it never asked me for a root password, now i cannot log into root
[09:48] <Madpilot> JakeK, it just works :P
[09:48] <Madpilot> doro, use sudo & your own user pw
[09:49] <Madpilot> !sudo
[09:49] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:49] <thoreauputic> JakeK: why not try it and see?
[09:49] <JakeK> what's with its website, i swear i felt like a communist just reading some of the philosophy
[09:49] <mustard5> doro, read the link from ubotu :)
[09:49] <thoreauputic> JakeK: erm, this is looking like a troll...
[09:49] <Syns> why does breezy detect my printer but dapper wont
[09:49] <Syns> having all kinds of trouble
[09:49] <JakeK> is it special, i'm surprised like i've never heard of it before, then bang its one of the biggest channels on freenode, how long did that take to materialize?
[09:49] <isolate> anyone here setup a wireless card with the broadcom chipset?
[09:50] <mustard5> JakeK, well its been around for a while
[09:50] <thoreauputic> JakeK: started in 2004
[09:50] <JakeK> ohh i see
[09:50] <mustard5> JakeK, you never used lnux?
[09:50] <JakeK> is it just good beccause its 'easy'?
[09:50] <JakeK> attactive because of that?
[09:50] <mustard5> JakeK, that would be part of it
[09:50] <jetsirus> thoreauputic, Worked like a charm.
[09:50] <thoreauputic> JakeK: not really - it just tends to work well
[09:50] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: hooray!
[09:50] <thoreauputic> :D
[09:50] <JakeK> mustard5, never used linux
[09:50] <jetsirus> My thoughts.
[09:50] <mustard5> JakeK, its not always 'easy' or we wouldnt need this support channel :)
[09:50] <JakeK> well i tried freebsd once
[09:50] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: well done !
[09:51] <jetsirus> For some reason all the user accounts were removed from admin.....
[09:51] <JakeK> but my lasermouse, whenever i moved it, it typed in 500 characters in the login prompt (looked like DOS rofl) randomly
[09:51] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: it's  a lot like Debian really
[09:51] <JakeK> so i thought all that linux stuff must be incompatible with new technology
[09:51] <larard> Hi. I configured a ubuntu machine on a different network that uses static ips. I now want to switch to dhcp permanantly. I tried editing /etc/networks/interfaces, but it seems to be being ignored, and is getting some address in the 169.254 range rather than <IP_ADDRESS> range which my dhcp server sends out. dhclient eth0 configures it correctly however.... Anyone?
[09:51] <mustard5> JakeK, I saw a lasermouse running on an ubuntu live CD over the weekend
[09:51] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: normally you only use one user for sudo
[09:51] <mustard5> JakeK, it was working ok
[09:51] <JakeK> cool, yea it was fixable
[09:52] <jetsirus> Yea..  I have a system that is a permenent public terminal.
[09:52] <jetsirus> I need to seperate the accounts.
[09:52] <mustard5> JakeK, grab a live CD and try it...the liveCD wont affect your installation at all
[09:52] <Aditya_TroJhan> hi
[09:52] <JakeK> but i'm the type that will only try linux, when i get a new pc just for the task, rather than partitioning, and taking my time off of windows uptime
[09:52] <JakeK> like i always have to have that windows machine on
[09:52] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: well, you need to disable sudo on all accounts but yours, I 'd say
[09:52] <JakeK> ohh that's a good idea
[09:52] <mustard5> JakeK, well thats what the liveCD is for...testing it without installing
[09:52] <Aditya_TroJhan> hi
[09:52] <jetsirus> well ima get back to messing things up.  Take care and thanks for all the help.  Thats my next plan..
[09:52] <JakeK> i did that with knoppix once
[09:53] <mustard5> JakeK, it boots up from CD and runs in RAM
[09:53] <Aditya_TroJhan> what
[09:53] <JakeK> i remember the software PPPoE, didn't connect and i was pissed when i used knoppix
[09:53] <thoreauputic> Aditya_TroJhan: do you have a question?
[09:53] <JakeK> i tried like all 5 software pppoe programs on the livecd
[09:53] <mustard5> JakeK, I had trouble with knoppix on a dialup connection myself :)
[09:53] <delmar> hrm. why would a simple file copy.. between a SATA and an IDE (both 133) ... spin up 100% usage of one of the two CPUs (intel p4 3gig gtt etc).  anyone?
[09:53] <Fredde> How do I set themes for rox-filer?
[09:53] <JakeK> mines adsl but bridged, so i software connect
[09:53] <JakeK> in windows i just raspppoe it
[09:53] <JakeK> works fine
[09:54] <JakeK> that way when i software connect whenever i start a server the ip is transparent
[09:54] <Syns> what directory are the drivers for printers located?
[09:54] <isolate> @larard: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=996
[09:54] <thoreauputic> Fredde: what do you mean? rox is gtk2 so it takes on whatever gnome them you wish more or less
[09:55] <JakeK> okay favorite programs, foobar2000 and fluxbox work with ubuntu? it should hey, its just like any other flavor of linux?
[09:55] <Fredde> thoreauputic: I'm using openbox, so is there a comand to choose icons, or could I go into gnome and choose icons there and go back to open?
[09:55] <paquinhq> hey there
[09:55] <mustard5> JakeK, you can fiddle around and installt them yes...at least I have seen people install fluxbox
[09:55] <JakeK> fluxbox because esthetics is more important than soundcard working imho
[09:55] <thoreauputic> Fredde: either start up gnome-settings-daemon, or install the switch utility
[09:55] <thoreauputic> !info switch
[09:56] <paquinhq> i cant connectlocalhost via telnet
[09:56] <isolate> @larard: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=996
[09:56] <mustard5> JakeK, ubuntu runs gnome by default...or kubuntu runs KDE
[09:56] <Fredde> thoreauputic: hehe, I know why i couldn't se, I downloaded a theme, not icons :)
[09:56] <paquinhq> what couldit be??
[09:56] <paquinhq> i've already installed telnetd
[09:56] <paquinhq> but can't connect localhost
[09:57] <thoreauputic> actually the switch package is called gtk-theme-switch it appears
[09:57] <paquinhq> what could it be??
[09:57] <miles> hi
[09:57] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: telnetd? what on earth for?
[09:57] <mustard5> paquinhq, I think you have to give people time to think about the problem...I have no idea myself
[09:57] <superante> mustard5,  Would you like for us to make this change? (y|n)
[09:57] <paquinhq> for a school project
[09:57] <mustard5> superante, is that installing the .deb?
[09:57] <JakeK> well say i was going to buy a pc where the parts were compatible, what should i get, 3800+ x2, some random ASUS/ABIT board, an nvidia card say, 7800gtx, gnome by default? thats awesome, i remember freebsd and its DOS type login screen, it scared me as i dont know anything when it comes to commands, i only know linux conceptually not practically
[09:57] <superante> ya
[09:57] <superante> the
[09:57] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: yuk - telnet is evil
[09:58] <superante> mustard5, Configuring this application to use the [ CUPSD ]  print subsystem.
[09:58] <paquinhq> i know
[09:58] <mustard5> superante, well you could use the pastebin to show me what it says
[09:58] <superante> ok
[09:58] <JakeK> WD raptor 10,000 rpm 74gig work with ubuntu you reckon?
[09:58] <paquinhq> but i gotta make it work
[09:58] <mustard5> !pastebin
[09:58] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[09:58] <superante> one sec
[09:58] <mustard5> superante, the link for the pastebin is above in ubotu's post
[09:58] <mustard5> superante, don't paste in the channel :)
[09:59] <superante> ya
[09:59] <superante> mustard5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9584
[09:59] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: normally you woud do something like  telnet localhost 23  or something to connect with telnet I think
[09:59] <mustard5> superante, k
[09:59] <Madpilot> JakeK, nearly any harddrive should work w/ Ubuntu - ATA or SATA
[09:59] <JakeK> nice
[09:59] <paquinhq> ok
[09:59] <Syns> HELLOOOO????
[09:59] <paquinhq> let mecheck that port
[09:59] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: I've only ever used it to test mail servers on port 25 or 110 etc
[09:59] <JakeK> if i were to buy a pc, 7800gtx nvidia chip, 3800+ x2 and abit/asus mobo be fine madpilot?
[09:59] <mustard5> superante, well my guess..and its only a guess..is to say 'yes' :)
[10:00] <JakeK> i just want compatability
[10:00] <Mantice> dpkg --force-architecture ----- Is that the command to run 32 bit code????
[10:00] <paquinhq> nope
[10:00] <superante> ok
[10:00] <superante> yes
[10:00] <JakeK> i don't wanna cause my windows machine downtime to try linux, hence compatability and buying a new pc for the learning experience
[10:00] <paquinhq> unable to connectoto remote host: connection refused
[10:00] <mustard5> superante, my printer uses cupsd  so I guess its the right way to go
[10:00] <Madpilot> JakeK, probably - Nvidia seems slightly easier to manage on Linux than ATI, and the rest should work anywhere
[10:00] <superante> mustard5,  setup complete
[10:00] <superante> ;)
[10:00] <mustard5> superante, I hope it works :)
[10:00] <paquinhq> on both ports
[10:00] <JakeK> sweet
[10:00] <paquinhq> 25 and 110
[10:01] <mustard5> superante, lexmarks are a bit of a horror scenario I hear
[10:01] <Syns> i cant get my hp officejet to work
[10:01] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: heh - that is expected unless you are running a mail server
[10:01] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:01] <JakeK> so after ubuntu install, gnomes gonna start up once its all complete and im booting her up? i can be the biggest noob in the world (which im not) and get in, network it, and read up on what i need to learn once its all up and running?!
[10:01] <larard> isolate: That is what I've done already, it doesn't work. ifup outputs lots of info about trying dhcp, but the interface still comes back as being <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:01] <Syns> i cant get my hp officejet to work
[10:01] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: what does  ps aux | grep telnetd say ?
[10:01] <Madpilot> Syns, HP should work OK - try System -> Admin -> Printing and see if it shows up
[10:01] <Mantice> Is there a safe way to convert a NTFS drives to FAT or somthing... Windows says you cant
[10:02] <Syns> i said earlier it doesnt..
[10:02] <mustard5> JakeK, get the liveCD first to test it...then you won't muck anything up
[10:02] <Syns> thats why im here
[10:02] <larard> isolate: /etc/init.d/networking restart does the same without the output.
[10:02] <doro> ok, so i'm trying to copy stuff from one folder to another i don't have permissions to, and i can't log into root, what do i do?
[10:02] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: i.e. is telnetd running ?
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> got a dumb-arse question: If i download a deb with a reaaaally long filename, and i rename it to save typing (!) will that affect how its installed when I dpkg ??
[10:02] <JakeK> i hear nowadays linux distributions have a desktop icon on the livecd to install to hdd
[10:02] <Madpilot> JakeK, Gnome will start automatically - if your networking is odd that might need some setup
[10:02] <larard> doro: use sudo
[10:02] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: just tab complete the name
[10:02] <Madpilot> JakeK, the new version of Ubuntu will, yes
[10:02] <mustard5> JakeK, I don't think the Breezy Badger 5.10 liveCD has one of those
[10:02] <Mantice> If your using windows there will be down time anyway better to go to linux earlyer rather than later
[10:03] <Madpilot> doro, "sudo mv <etc>"
[10:03] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul:  sudo dpkg -i longname<tab>
[10:03] <JakeK> nah it'll be DNCP or whatever cable modem, simple networking, automatic find, thanks madpilot and mustard5 for the help
[10:03] <doro> anyway without term?
[10:03] <Mantice> brb
[10:03] <mustard5> JakeK, and 5.10 is the current stable...I've seen it on the next development version as Madpilot said
[10:03] <Mantice> Goodbye windows you suck!
[10:03] <JakeK> awesome
[10:03] <superante> mustard5,  the driver not appar and the link on menu don't work
[10:03] <paquinhq> thoreauputic: it says paquin 9304 0.0 0.1 3240 764pts/0 R+ 03:02 0:00 grep telnetd
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: aaaaaaaaaaahhhh - thank you!
[10:03] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: Ok looks like it is running
[10:04] <mustard5> superante, I have no idea what is supposed to happen next.
[10:04] <JakeK> ty so much, i'ma go buy order this pc <3
[10:04] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul:  heheh :)
[10:04] <superante> k
[10:04] <paquinhq> yeap daemon is running
[10:04] <Syns> madpilot what else should i try?
[10:04] <paquinhq> but i still can't connect to localhost
[10:04] <mustard5> superante, I guess you would go to System>>Administration>>Printers
[10:04] <isolate> @larard: when you type "route" from a bash shell does it correctly point at your gateway?
[10:04] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: what does   telnet localhost 23    say ?
[10:04] <mustard5> superante, if you are on gnome that is
[10:04] <JakeK> <3 to mustard5 and madpilot, thx for help
[10:04] <Madpilot> !tell Syns about printers
[10:04] <superante> ye
[10:04] <superante> ya
[10:04] <paquinhq> thoreauputic connection refused
[10:05] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: odd.
[10:05] <paquinhq> yup
[10:05] <superante> mustard5, but when i search the driver...don't found it in the list
[10:05] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: do you have to use telnet? Why not ssh ?
[10:05] <F1R3_C00L> Hello everybody . I have installed Unbutu linux on my Laptop. I have problem with my WiFi adapet and Wifi AP(on the AP is used WPA encrypting) . Connect don't work  because LAN manager in GNOME don't use WPA ecrypting. You can any help me please ?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: ah - you gave me the line that said grep!
[10:06] <paquinhq> the teacher told us to
[10:06] <mustard5> superante, you are on your own in this area unfortunately..unless you can google up something online where someone else has set one up
[10:06] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: it isn;t running
[10:06] <paquinhq> no??
[10:06] <superante> mustard5,  ok tnx
[10:06] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: try sudo /etc/init.d/telnetd start
[10:06] <mustard5> superante, I've only ever set up one printer...my own :)
[10:06] <isolate> F1R3_C00L: don't you need WPA_supplicant for that?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: or it might be just "telnet", I don't know for sure
[10:07] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: I misread your grep output - it was just echoing grep
[10:08] <paquinhq> on both cases (telnet and telnetd) says command not found
[10:08] <paquinhq> it's weird
[10:08] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: with the full  sudo /etc/init.d/  path?
[10:08] <Syns> what directory is hpijs in?
[10:08] <F1R3_C00L> isolate: Why ?
[10:08] <paquinhq> yes
[10:08] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: are you sure it's installed? what does  dpkg -l telnetd say ? ( don't paste it)
[10:09] <isolate> for WPA support?  I'm not really an expert though.... I came here with my own wireless problems :)
[10:09] <mustard5> F1R3_C00L, you read the wiki guide on wifi?
[10:09] <mustard5> !wifi
[10:09] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:09] <F1R3_C00L> isolate: WPE encrypting is not security, because I use WPA
[10:10] <paquinhq> reinst required
[10:10] <paquinhq> half installed
[10:10] <paquinhq> etc
[10:10] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: aha
[10:10] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall telnetd
[10:11] <paquinhq> done
[10:11] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: if that complains try  sudo apt-get -f install  (without rgumants)
[10:11] <isolate> F1R3_C00L, I'm not sure I can help much further :)  I just remembered that WPA needed the wpa_supplicant to work
[10:11] <thoreauputic> *arguments)
[10:11] <paquinhq> it worked
[10:11] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: :D
[10:11] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: Ok your problem is solved then?
[10:11] <paquinhq> yes
[10:11] <thoreauputic> great!
[10:11] <paquinhq> thank you very much
[10:12] <thoreauputic> no worries!
[10:12] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:12] <paquinhq> ok
[10:12] <Mantice> How to I remove programs from my pc?
[10:12] <paquinhq> well
[10:12] <mustard5> Mantice, which programs?
[10:12] <paquinhq> I'll startworking on that school project
[10:12] <mustard5> Mantice, how were they installed?
[10:12] <paquinhq> thanx
[10:12] <Mantice> Enemy Territory
[10:12] <paquinhq> peace
[10:12] <thoreauputic> Mantice: use synaptic
[10:12] <Mantice> Through the linux installer
[10:12] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: good luck :)
[10:13] <mustard5> Mantice, I think Enemy Territory runs from its own folder doesnt it?
[10:13] <Mantice> Yeah
[10:13] <Mantice> It has its own installer
[10:13] <Mantice> If I reinstalled over it that would be ok right?
[10:13] <mustard5> Mantice, but did it actually install anything in other folders?  does it have a log of its installation?
[10:13] <mustard5> Mantice, I would suspect its all just in the one folder
[10:14] <KaoticEvil> anyone got any ideas as to why sudo ifup wlan0 would freeze my computer
[10:14] <thoreauputic> OK good night all
[10:14] <Mantice> Its in my start menu, urh i mean gnome menu :)
[10:14] <mustard5> thoreauputic, night
[10:15] <mustard5> Mantice, hmm ok..well you might have to work it out yourself, as installing stuff that is not from synaptic always makes unistalling difficult
[10:15] <mustard5> Mantice, you can edit the menu yourself
[10:15] <Mantice> Yeah
[10:15] <Mantice> /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et
[10:16] <mustard5> Mantice, look for some type of record of the install
[10:16] <superante> mustard5,  the error was : /usr/lexprint/bin/lexprint
[10:16] <superante> License Agreement was not accepted.
[10:16] <mustard5> superante, hmmm
[10:16] <mustard5> superante, did you ever see a licence agreement?
[10:16] <superante> nien
[10:16] <Mantice> Im just reinstalling it again anyway
[10:16] <mustard5> superante, very strange
[10:16] <superante> ya
[10:17] <superante> i reread the documentation again
[10:17] <mustard5> superante, whats the name of the package?
[10:18] <F1R3_C00L> mustard5: Just reading
[10:18] <F1R3_C00L> ubotu: thx
[10:18] <ubotu> F1R3_C00L: I give up.  Yes I thinking about my control
[10:24] <delmar> anyone here use cedega? i just installed it and wondering how I can make it run my Everquest from a backup folder I've copied over.
[10:25] <deepwoodz> ok let me give that a shot
[10:25] <deepwoodz> ill shall return
[10:25] <Fredde> deepwoodz: /home/fredrik/musik, for example or do you mean something else?
[10:25] <mustard5> delmar, I use it...you have the install disk?
[10:25] <delmar> mustard5, yeah i do
[10:25] <delmar> mustard5, somewher...
[10:25] <mustard5> delmar, you could install from that
[10:25] <propagandhi> how cool is XGL gonna be
[10:25] <mustard5> delmar, cedega sets up special folders for each game
[10:25] <Fredde> I can't wait for xgl
[10:26] <delmar> mustard5, but i will be old and decrepid by the time its done...
[10:26] <propagandhi> same
[10:26] <delmar> mustard5, ah.. where?
[10:26] <Fredde> I hope I manage to install it
[10:26] <mustard5> delmar, try installing something and then look in your .cedega folder on your $HOME folder
[10:26] <Mantice> man im so anoyed that I cant play enemy-territory
[10:26] <deepwoodz> ok i ll give u the example
[10:26] <Fredde> I'm a newstarter with ubuntu
[10:26] <delmar> mustard5, good plan.
[10:26] <mustard5> delmar, you run the cedega program
[10:26] <deepwoodz> # cd /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/input/
[10:26] <deepwoodz> # rm xpad.c
[10:26] <deepwoodz> # wget http://cvs.xbox-linux.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/xbox-linux/kernel-2.6/drivers/usb/input/xpad.c
[10:26] <deepwoodz> # wget http://cvs.xbox-linux.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/xbox-linux/kernel-2.6/drivers/usb/input/xpad.h <-- like that
[10:26] <Fredde> Is cedega really working ok?
[10:27] <deepwoodz> that wut it says to do
[10:27] <deepwoodz> but the directory doesnt exit
[10:27] <maxkelley> no paste, please.
[10:27] <deepwoodz> oh sorry
[10:27] <F1R3_C00L> delmar : Cedega have For some software own dir /home/your_account/.cedega/soft_dir/
[10:27] <Fredde> deepwoodz: pastbin
[10:27] <mustard5> Fredde, its ok..but not fantastic :)
[10:27] <savon> Hey mye movies is playing to fast ant also the time in ubuntu is going to fast ho can i fix it?
[10:27] <deepwoodz> oops
[10:27] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[10:27] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:27] <Mantice> Could some one lend me there Cedega account please
[10:27] <deepwoodz> !pasteban
[10:27] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, deepwoodz
[10:27] <Fredde> deepwoodz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:27] <deepwoodz> !pastebin
[10:27] <ara> gnome rox
[10:27] <F1R3_C00L> Mantice: Why ?
[10:27] <Madpilot> Mantice, piracy is always offtopic here, thanks
[10:27] <Mantice> I want to try before I buy
[10:28] <mustard5> Mantice, they have a demo
[10:28] <Mantice> Really
[10:28] <Fredde> ara: did you shorten rocks to rox, or?...
[10:28] <mustard5> Mantice, it works for 14 days
[10:28] <delmar> F1R3_C00L, surely I can just move/copy the Everquest folder into there then?
[10:28] <Mantice> I supose thats not bad
[10:28] <ara> freedde: rocks == rox yes
[10:28] <Mantice> Is there a one time fee?
[10:28] <Fredde> ara: gnome eats memory
[10:28] <Fredde> but it looks good
[10:28] <mustard5> delmar, create folder called everquest maybe ?  inside .cedega?
[10:28] <delmar> mustard5, not sure where my CD's are.
[10:28] <Fredde> better then kde
[10:28] <delmar> mustard5, yeah.. cant hurt to try
[10:29] <Mantice> no kde vs gnome fightin
[10:29] <Mantice> :P try
[10:29] <Fredde> I use non of them :p
[10:29] <mustard5> delmar, you can always make a backup of your .cedega folder first
[10:29] <savon> ?
[10:29] <ara> Fredde: kde eats more memory imho, and feels more sluggish
[10:29] <Mantice> Ill probley just play diablo II
[10:29] <deepwoodz> well it tells me to put it in /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/input/ but it doesnt exist
[10:29] <delmar> mustard5, what do u reckon.. do games on cedega run better than when using standard winblows?
[10:29] <Fredde> ara: kde looks really bad
[10:29] <Mantice> If I could get Cedega working I could format windows
[10:29] <ara> and don't get me started on usability ;)
[10:29] <scsleo> anybody knows how to solve x-chat cannot show asian words?
[10:29] <Fredde> ara; gnome looks good, but I prefere openbox
[10:29] <mustard5> delmar, I think some run the same..some run worse..some don't run at all :)
[10:29] <Fredde> ara: or any *box
[10:30] <F1R3_C00L> delmar: Yes, you can move/copy/cut... , but you can't delete/move dir soft, because software not worked .
[10:30] <Fredde> ara: with gnome settings :P
[10:30] <propagandhi> Mantice: if ur a gamer u will never format windows
[10:30] <shukhrat> madpilot ?
[10:30] <shukhrat> here ?
[10:30] <savon> ?
[10:30] <Mantice> Im not a hard out gamer,
[10:30] <ara> Fredde: for example, how do you change a theme in kde ? with gnome it's a coulpe of clicks
[10:30] <mustard5> delmar, I can run Homeworld2, Railroad Tycoon 2 , Railroad Tycoon 3 on cedega..thats all I've got working so far
[10:30] <Madpilot> shukhrat, for the moment, yeah
[10:30] <mustard5> delmar, oh and masters of orion 3
[10:31] <Fredde> ara: I don't know, I don't use kde, I hate it and it loads slow
[10:31] <propagandhi> Mantice: cedega can handle only a very small portion of games
[10:31] <mustard5> delmar, steam normally runs along with CS and CS:Source..but I'm having issues atm
[10:31] <delmar> mustard5, nice.
[10:31] <savon> fils is playing to fast whats wrong?
[10:31] <Mantice> Cedega runs the games that I play :)
[10:31] <ara> Fredde : gnome 2.14 will have fast loading times. But I've yet to try dapper
[10:31] <savon> films
[10:31] <delmar> mustard5, EQ is well supported aparantly
[10:31] <Mantice> Allthough a few others
[10:32] <shukhrat> madpilot i'am downloading resporositories
[10:32] <propagandhi> savon: u need to do a jedi mind trick and speed up ur brain
[10:32] <Fredde> ara: I can't wait to see the new gnome
[10:32] <Toma-> The better thing to do, is email the game develoment companies and tell them about cedega and wine. alot of them actually share info with cedega and to a lesser extent, wine.
[10:32] <mustard5> delmar, there is an 'unofficial' wiki that gives you all the information on getting games going
[10:32] <delmar> ok
[10:32] <mustard5> delmar, try a search in google for 'unofficial transgaming wiki'
[10:32] <Toma-> asfor me, i only play id games because they fully support linux :)
[10:32] <Fredde> ara: I hope it gets better performance then the next kde (if i remeber corectly)
[10:32] <shukhrat> i hope then i can install MySQL
[10:32] <Toma-> qt4 is going to rick
[10:33] <savon> propagandhi: werry funny!
[10:33] <Toma-> rock even
[10:33] <ara> Fredde: kde4 will only have more bloat, ie more memory hogping
[10:33] <Fredde> ara: to the (...), there would be a new (ugly) version of kde
[10:33] <propagandhi> savon: but seriously what is ur architecture
[10:33] <ara> *hogging
[10:33] <propagandhi> kde rocks
[10:33] <mustard5> savon, I think your question got lost in the chat :)
[10:33] <Fredde> propagandhi: it's so ugly
[10:33] <Toma-> new kde is going to be quicker actually
[10:33] <savon> hehe ok!
[10:33] <Toma-> and have 'smarter' eyecandy
[10:33] <propagandhi> ha ha get off it
[10:33] <Fredde> propagandhi: show me a nice screen :)
[10:33] <propagandhi> gnome is much uglier
[10:34] <Fredde> propagandhi: is that a bet?
[10:34] <Mantice> How Do I run .run files with the linux32 added on
[10:34] <propagandhi> Fredde: did it sound like a bet?
[10:34] <Toma-> theyre bother the same actually...
[10:34] <savon> no the problem is that my movies seems to play in 30 fps but shall plays in 25:(
[10:34] <propagandhi> I dont see a $ anywhere
[10:34] <ara> you can customize gnome to your liking very easily, in kde, you need to install a .deb to install a theme
[10:34] <Fredde> propagandhi: show me a nice kde screenshot, and I'll show you a nice gnome shot
[10:34] <mustard5> savon, hmm strange problem
[10:34] <propagandhi> ara: totally incorrect
[10:34] <mustard5> savon, playing in what player?
[10:35] <propagandhi> some people even compile their own themes, or create their own graphics
[10:35] <propagandhi> browse kde-look.org
[10:35] <delmar> ok thanks mustard5. im just finishing up a thing or two here then I will give it a go
[10:35] <Fredde> propagandhi: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=13854105624345452f5d23f&m=screen
[10:35] <savon> gxine thotem vlc xine
[10:35] <mustard5> delmar, good luck
[10:35] <propagandhi> there's plenty of screenshots there to justify kde can be beautiful
[10:35] <savon> all i have try!
[10:36] <mustard5> savon, does anything else run fast on your system?  like the clock?
[10:36] <Toma-> http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0
[10:36] <ara> propagandhi: I'm just saying gnome can look nice too, don't get fooled by ubuntu's default theme ;)
[10:36] <savon> yess the clock to!
[10:36] <Mantice> !run
[10:36] <Mantice> aww
[10:36] <propagandhi> ara: i know that because i use both
[10:36] <mustard5> savon, what type of motherboard?
[10:36] <deepwoodz> im tryin to compile these drivers
[10:36] <deepwoodz> n i dont really know how to do so
[10:36] <propagandhi> but kde can be just as beatiful and is far more configurable
[10:36] <propagandhi> FAR MORE
[10:36] <savon> dont know, its a laptop!
[10:36] <Toma-> youve got that many gdesklets running and you call kde bloat? Ha.
[10:37] <mustard5> savon, ah ok
[10:37] <Mantice> How do you run a install file "file.run"
[10:37] <mustard5> savon, hmm...well I'm not really sure what the answer is...
[10:37] <propagandhi> and konqueror is an amazing all-round browser
[10:37] <Fredde> propagandhi: I  don't use gnome or kde, but gnome looks better with the right theme and icon + wallpaper
[10:37] <mustard5> savon, you tried searching the ubuntu forums?
[10:37] <deepwoodz> i have the website in all that im readin dis from.....but its not sayin too much (that i understand)
[10:37] <propagandhi> Fredde: u said u were knew earlier, and ur showing that now
[10:37] <shukhrat> Bye ALL !
[10:37] <mustard5> savon,  someone else may have had the same problem
[10:37] <savon> not the ubforums!unto forums, but linux
[10:37] <propagandhi> Fredde: give kde a real go and u'll understand
[10:38] <nicholaspaul> when I'm installing samba... if pc1 can see pc2 , but not vice versa, what is pc2 missing?
[10:38] <mustard5> savon, k..I would try the ubuntu forums..they are very helpful there
[10:38] <mustard5> savon, usually helpful anyway :)
[10:38] <shukhrat> i think now MySQL will be intsalling
[10:38] <shukhrat> after update
[10:38] <Fredde> propagandhi: you have kind of right, I can't say anything about kde untill I used it for a time
[10:38] <wjb> Question - is there a way to prevent getting join and leave meesages in Xchat-GNOME?
[10:38] <Madpilot> propagandhi & Fredde, can you take the desktop wars to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[10:38] <savon> ok!, Il try!
[10:38] <Toma-> Fredde, http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/32788-1.jpg
[10:38] <Fredde> Madpilot: sorry
[10:38] <shukhrat> Ubuntu forevere !!!
[10:38] <mustard5> savon, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:38] <propagandhi> Fredde: not being rude by the way but u do need to give all a fair go
[10:38] <savon> thnx!
[10:38] <mustard5> savon,  use the search function
[10:39] <mustard5> savon, thats the way I find answers anyway :)
[10:39] <savon> yess I shall!
[10:39] <Fredde> propagandhi: ok, you won :]
[10:39] <Fredde> Toma-: nice screen, except the top bar
[10:39] <propagandhi> Fredde: this victory seems somehow very shallow
[10:40] <Toma-> indeed
[10:40] <Toma-> needs to be crystal imho
[10:40] <propagandhi> all in all gnome and kde both have awesome features and advantages over each other, some meshing in between the two would be heaven
[10:40] <Fredde> Tome-: still, it looks really nice, for being kde (just kidding :D)
[10:40] <mustard5> wjb, an interesting question :)
[10:41] <Fredde> Toma-: by the way, is it your desktop?