[05:47] <maco> YankDownUnder: wait are you making a distinction between upgrading via reinstall versus upgrading over the network?
[05:47] <goddard> Semitones yep
[05:48] <Semitones> goddard, I don't know the details of ubuntuone, but I think it's possible -- just look for how to find the public url
[05:48] <karma_police> thats what i thought.. i like the versatility of having multiple computer access.. that and i can show linux off to windoze users when i fix there crap
[05:48] <CogitoErgoSam> mook_: the sudo setup also helps log actions taken with the higher level of authorization to help you audit and/or fix changes made through sudo
[05:48] <maco> goddard: yes you can make things public/shareable. might require using the web interface
[05:48] <MrKeuner> intel wifi 5300 keeps getting disconnected, anybody has a solution for that? Lucid...
[05:48] <Out_Cold> CogitoErgoSam, how is that?
[05:48] <goddard> maco cool good to know
[05:48] <YankDownUnder> maco, Here, in my biz and my lab, upgrading is NOT an option. Backing up data, blowing out the entire workstation (even the /home dir) is the best way. Path of least resistance. Least trouble, least work, least support. Hot donuts!
[05:49] <CogitoErgoSam> Its been a while since I needed to check, but don't commands run with sudo get logged?
[05:49] <IdleOne> goddard: sorry I misunderstood your question
[05:49] <karma_police> is there a way to get it to save your settings and log in with a user other than root when you boot it?
[05:49] <PsynoKhi0> FeasibilityStudy: oh? hmm ok so the release notes state that "By default, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS aligns partitions on disk to 1 MiB (1048576 bytes) boundaries."
 How do I show the Lucid boot menu?
[05:49] <maco> YankDownUnder: oh sure, blowing everything away is the most foolproof, but its far from the most convenient if you dont want to spend 3 hours reconfiguring everything and cherry-picking bits of your .kde/ to get all your mail back
[05:49] <onetinsoldier> mxe5: yes
[05:49] <LucidFox> from the live CD
[05:50] <FeasibilityStudy> PsynoKhi0: Yes there were a lot of controversy about that.  Ubuntu changed the way KB and MB are counted.
[05:50] <pvl1> mook_, in modding your system did u ever crash it? also you have to worry about viruses on windows. here you dont. also, dont u get bored of looking at windows
[05:50] <pvl1> or thru
[05:50] <mclark1129> I am having trouble with WPA2 Personal encryption on my router authenticating me.  What does it mean when it says wpa_supplicant[822]: Association request to the driver failed in the syslog?
[05:50] <goddard> IdleOne its all good
[05:50] <mclark1129> I am using the right password, and sometimes it works just fine, other times it times out and gives this message.
[05:50] <pvl1> mclark1129, did u install wpa_supplicant yourself or what
[05:50] <maco> pvl1: there are linux viruses (though not in the wild for current systems) but the more common issue on linux systems is targetted attacks... where passwords are a *good* thing
[05:50] <pvl1> mclark1129, oh what about your driver then
[05:50] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; Cool - Thought so - just wasn't sure - Thanks
[05:50] <mclark1129> no, it came stock on my 9.10 setup then
[05:51] <maco> FeasibilityStudy: ubuntu didnt change it. the IEEE did
[05:51] <PsynoKhi0> FeasibilityStudy: oh actually I'm wondering about the implications of the new partition alignment
[05:51] <onetinsoldier> mxe5: sure. your welcome
[05:51] <mclark1129> I'm using the hybrid_wl driver for BCM4312
[05:51] <YankDownUnder> maco, Kmail/Kontact is backed up...(or was)...always a good thing! (but renamed it, and re-imported to save from any KDE related strangeness - as there is ALWAYS strangeness with KDE applications)
[05:51] <pvl1> maco, well sure u can rip a system with SUDO rm -r /*
[05:51] <mclark1129> I installed that myself
[05:51] <maco> FeasibilityStudy: ubuntu just started following the established standard terminology
[05:51] <Flannel> !danger
[05:51] <vexati0n> Will Ubuntu One still sync while I am logged out?
[05:51] <mook_> i never got virus on windows, never will, i have crashed every linux system out well over 50 times in the last 5 years, most of the crashes was from the system screwing up
[05:51] <PsynoKhi0> FeasibilityStudy: I way past the MB vs MiB thing
[05:51] <pvl1> maco, but making it run via an email?
[05:52] <maco> pvl1: sure, email someone a .desktop file and tell them it's an e-card
[05:52] <amabo> does anyone know how to get the Last.fm official application to scrobble a connected ipod? it asks "where is your ipod mounted" and i don't know where to direct it :-\
[05:52] <maco> pvl1: yay trojans :)
[05:52] <karma_police> i love 10.04. very snappy... i'm using linux mint menu tho >:)
[05:52] <pvl1> mook_, then that just means that ur arrogant and ignorant. why did u even choose to come to linux if youwere so happy with windows?
[05:52] <IdleOne> errr
[05:52] <Flannel> mook_: If you've used Linux for five years, you'll have no problem figuring out how to make it so sudo doesn't bother you.  Is there anything else we can help you with today?
[05:52] <gh0zt> !controls
[05:52] <goddard> Whats the project website for deb?
[05:52] <CogitoErgoSam> Just double checked, and yes, sudo actions are logged in /var/log/auth.log
[05:52] <maco> amabo: type "mount" in a terminal and itll tell you. should be /media/IPOD or something like that
[05:52] <bazhang> pvl1, keep it civil and on topic
[05:52] <FeasibilityStudy> mook_ GTFO
[05:52] <CogitoErgoSam> so commands you run at the higher level of rights can be checked to try and undo anything terrible
[05:52] <pvl1> maco, my friend did that exact thing and manage to rewrite every filename to "penis" on another friend
[05:52] <chetnick> maco: i filled a bug.
[05:52] <mook_> it seems ubuntu removed ROOT? uhh crap
[05:53] <pvl1> bazhang, my b
[05:53] <h00k> FeasibilityStudy: that attitude is not welcome here
[05:53] <IdleOne> FeasibilityStudy: don't please
[05:53] <bazhang> FeasibilityStudy, that is enough
[05:53] <Flannel> mook_: No, that's not true.
[05:53] <maco> chetnick: bug number?
[05:53] <karma_police> ubuntu tweak is the best way to fix the button placement.. simple gui
[05:53] <mook_> no wonder its not working
[05:53] <CogitoErgoSam> ...
[05:53] <amabo> maco: nothing for iPod
[05:53] <maco> amabo: is there anything listed as being in /media ?
[05:53] <chetnick> maco: Bug #574918
, you may be interested in Debian stable ;)
[05:53] <YankDownUnder> I've tried to undo past commands to rectify the present, however, my ex-wives never agree...
[05:53] <maco> mook_: there is a root user, but its password is locked, thats all
[05:53] <sithwalrus> Hi
[05:53] <_pg_> Is there a room for ppc?
[05:54] <maco> mook_: if you'd read the wiki page i pointed you to, you'd know this
[05:54] <amabo> maco: no but i found some software for it - going to try that
[05:54] <CogitoErgoSam> Its been said several times but root is not removed, it is simply disabled by default for a number of well-described reasons
[05:54] <YankDownUnder> phillipsjk, Heheheheheh...good one mate....
[05:54] <CogitoErgoSam> But you can reenable it in seconds if you really want
[05:54] <maco> amabo: is the ipod plugged in? it should show up on your desktop when its mounted...
[05:54] <FeasibilityStudy> mook_: are you just now noticing Ubuntu locks the root account?  Wow, perceptive aren't ya?
[05:54] <Flannel> FeasibilityStudy: Let it go
[05:54] <aaaoooaaa> hi guys, im running virtualbox on karmic and am having issues getting winxp on VB to find any connected devices besides my mouse; can someone help me?
[05:54] <linuxgecko> CogitoErgoSam:  no fix.
[05:54] <amabo> maco: it does
[05:54] <_pg_> I need help installing ubuntu on a ppc g3 iMac.
[05:54] <maco> Yo, folks! Please be nice!~
[05:54] <amabo> maco: mount only tells me where the macintosh HD is l
[05:54] <maco> amabo: ok can you double click it and bring up a file browser?
[05:55] <UbuntuJeff> aaaoooaaa, try install virtualbox guest addons, its under one of the menus at the top of the window with XP in it
[05:55] <CogitoErgoSam> linuxgecko:  Bleh, sorry it didn't work.  Was worth a shot at least and won't change anything permanently
[05:55] <_pg_>  I need help installing ubuntu on a ppc g3 iMac. I downloaded ppc xubuntu but it won't fit on a cd. And I cant get any intel macs to boot to it to install via target disk mode.
[05:55] <linuxgecko> CogitoErgoSam: no other solution?/ this box has no working cd drive.
[05:56] <pvl1> _pg_, got a thumb drive?
[05:56] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; What would be a good shell command to list some of you're hardware - specifically your CPU & ram - etc. ? ?
[05:56] <CogitoErgoSam> linuxgecko:  I'm sure there's some other way, but I am still relatively new and don't know much about network booting and other methods
[05:56] <maco> mxe5: sudo lshw | less
[05:56]  * phillipsjk wasn't going for funny...
[05:56] <onetinsoldier> mxe5: lshw or lshw-gtk
[05:56] <Geoffrey2> it appears that when I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04, some options were left in Gnome, looking for file for programs that aren't installed anymore...is there some preferences file that can be blown away and automatically rebuilt to eliminate that?
[05:56] <maco> mxe5: thatll list all your hardware
[05:56] <pvl1> mxe5, free for ram/swap
[05:56] <gerzel> Q: sudo chown <user> <filename> doesn't appear to actually be changing the owner of the file
[05:56] <abadabad00> so I removed pulseaudio and sound mystically works now. But my volume icon has dissapeared from my taskbar and when I launch System --> Preferences -->Sound, I am told to please wait while sound preferences load (which never happens)
[05:57] <gerzel> what am I doing wrong?
[05:57] <_pg_> pvl1: G3 cant boot from USB.
[05:57] <mxe5> maco; Thanks
[05:57] <karma_police> i've been using linux since 9.04.. its still new and fresh to me.
[05:57] <maco> Geoffrey2: hit ctrl+h in a file browser to see your hidden configuration files in your home directory
[05:57] <CogitoErgoSam> Anyone else that can help linuxgecko with post-grub video driver issues?
[05:57] <pvl1> _pg_, aw that blows. get a smaller ubuntu disc and just install w.e else u need. im guessing xubuntu is xfce?
[05:57] <maco> gerzel: you need to give it user & group i think.  sudo chown user:group filename
[05:57] <abadabad00> any way to get my colume icon back in the taskbar? (presumably i am no using 'ALSA'
[05:57] <UbuntuJeff> abadabad00, curiousity, what were you having troubles with sound working in? with pulseaudio I mean.
[05:58] <maco> abadabad00: the volume icon is a pulseaudio thing. youre going to have to use "alsamixer" in the terminal to make adjustments
[05:58] <abadabad00> omfg
[05:58] <maco> abadabad00: wait your issue was just audacity, right?
[05:58] <karma_police> whats the easiest way to backup a list of what all you have installed to make it easier for next install?
[05:58] <maco> abadabad00: just use pa-suspender with audacity
[05:58] <abadabad00> sorry about that om....
[05:58] <krelboyne> gerzel: is root the owner of the file?
[05:58] <_pg_> pvl1: Yeah. But the g3 won't boot to any disc I burn.
[05:58] <IdleOne> !clone > karma_police
[05:58] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; Thanks again - trying to see if my granddaughter older lappy will run Lucid - should be fine - wasn't sure what version of Ubuntu I had installed on there before.
[05:59] <abadabad00> my issue was sound working in all of ubuntu. it seemed to work only in Audacity (ALSA). This prompted me to uninstall pulse audio
[05:59] <pvl1> _pg_, y not, and im guessing uve checked bios? or does it not have that either
[05:59] <CogitoErgoSam> karma_police:  If you just want a list of all the packages, you can also do dpkg -l and pipe it to a text file or somethin'
[05:59] <CytotoxicTCell> how often are updates released?
[05:59] <onetinsoldier> mxe5: ah, roger. good luck!
[05:59] <gerzel> Yes root is the owner
[05:59] <maco> abadabad00: is it that it didnt work in anything else while audacity was running?
[05:59] <_pg_> So I tried target disk mode but my intel macs won't boot to the ppc disks. And no bios haha
[05:59] <abadabad00> maco: yes..
[05:59] <gerzel> tried giving it the group no dice.
[05:59] <abadabad00> oh no
[05:59] <abadabad00> sorry
[05:59] <abadabad00> ....
[06:00] <PsynoKhi0> ok I'll try again with a concrete example: I currently run karmic/arch linux as dual boot on an oldish laptop, ubuntu manages grub, both share a partition for home, different users... I'm planning to upgrade to Lucid, do I need to pass the partman/alignment=cylinder parameter at the start of the ubuntu installation?
[06:00] <karma_police> ty.. thats what i was lookin for
[06:00] <dabaR> maco: you're saying that the volume icon in the panel is a pulseaudio thing, and if one uses alsa they can't have it/use it?
[06:00] <maco> dabaR: right
[06:00] <gerzel> tried giving it the group no dice.
[06:00] <abadabad00> look... it didn't work in anything at all. but it did work in audacity. (nothing to do with simultinaety)
[06:00] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; Thanks - she is a progressive 17yr old that thanks to her Papa loves Linux :o)
[06:00] <dabaR> maco: and do you happen to know how I can tell which I am using?
[06:00] <gerzel> The original owner is root and I need to change the ownership to my user.
[06:00] <maco> dabaR: ps -ef | grep pulse
[06:00] <abadabad00> so it 'happened
[06:01] <abadabad00> 'happened' to work in audacity
[06:01] <mook_> i just
[06:01] <dabaR> maco: interesting
[06:01] <pvl1> _pg_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405934
[06:01] <pvl1> _pg_, all i found
[06:01] <dabaR> maco: I thought all you have to do is have indicator-sound installed, and a notification area in your panel
[06:01] <maco> abadabad00: please file a bug about your issue. "ubuntu-bug pulseaudio" and in the meantime i suggest either using alsamixer or... installing kmix (kde's mixer applet) should work too
[06:02] <_pg_> pvl1: Qlready read thatbwhole rhing lol
[06:02] <maco> dabaR: that applet talks to pulse though. no pulse, no applet
[06:02] <mook_> i just installed ROOT i am now login as root, i can now delete system files and do what ever i want! thats freedom! something windows has and you all will never have
[06:02] <dabaR> gerzel: I would like to see some output on a pastebin, if possible. do a ls -l file, then chown, then ls -l again, and paste all output to a pastebin, please.
[06:02] <onetinsoldier> mxe5: 17 years old... pretty old relic there, hehe. i wouldn't think lucid would run on that, but i don't know.
[06:02] <gerzel> gerzel@gerzel-desktop:~/WebSites/EmpoweredGame$ ls -l index.html
[06:02] <gerzel> -rwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 3675 2010-05-04 00:33 index.html
[06:02] <gerzel> gerzel@gerzel-desktop:~/WebSites/EmpoweredGame$ sudo chown gerzel:gerzel index.html
[06:02] <gerzel> gerzel@gerzel-desktop:~/WebSites/EmpoweredGame$ ls -l index.html-rwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 3675 2010-05-04 00:33 index.html
[06:02] <FloodBot3> gerzel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:02] <CogitoErgoSam> mook_:  Yes, we'll never have that...unless we take 15 seconds to enable it.
[06:02] <maco> dabaR: it just goes "oh look i have nothing to talk to *disappear*" because gnome has decided that pulseaudio is their preferred sound server (replacing esound)
[06:03] <pvl1> _pg_, yeah then im at a loss. post in the forum then
[06:03] <dabaR> well that's been for a while, rgght?
[06:03] <gerzel> get it?
[06:03] <onetinsoldier> mxe5: nvm.. i thought you were talking about a computer. my bad
[06:03] <maco> mook_: you can go on thinking that's what software freedom's about, but it's not. it's about the freedom to read and modify and share *source code*
[06:03] <CogitoErgoSam> mook_: And I'm not going anywhere near the irony of you referring to windows as being more "free" than *nix
[06:03] <maco> dabaR: 9.10 was like this too, yes
[06:03] <_pg_> Thnx
[06:03] <orlok> Does anybody here have a logitech C600 webcam?
[06:04] <CogitoErgoSam> Try looking at the source of the *nix kernel, and then at windows' os
[06:04] <orlok> I'm seeing a green tinge on the right hand side of my images under low light conditions
[06:04] <gerzel> dabar: see my paste?
[06:04] <CogitoErgoSam> Orlok:  Does it follow images if you drag them around the screen or stay in place
[06:04] <dabaR> maco: well, really software freedom is about what that sharing/availability brings :)
[06:05] <MrKeuner> intel wifi 5300 keeps getting disconnected sporadically, anybody has a solution for that?
[06:05] <dabaR> which is I guess the same thing
[06:05] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; It is a computer - It's a laptop (a.k.a. lappy) my granddaughter is running linux on - .........
[06:05] <onetinsoldier> mxe5: roger :-)
[06:06]  * dabaR wonders what mook_ was even saying...it was not very clear from his sentence
[06:06] <nocturnus> help me pls
[06:06] <nocturnus> unetbootin won't creata  a boobletable usb (it says there's no bootable drive -- but boot flag was set in fdisk), from an ubuntu iso
[06:06] <PsynoKhi0> dabaR: he sounded very confused
[06:07] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; Ah - I just saw yer other post further up - there are so many posts after a new release the screen is constantly scrolling - ha
[06:07] <Geoffrey2> ok, I'm looking at .xsession-errors, and it appears gnome is trying to open a bunch of programs that simple don't exist anymore, like...Unable to open desktop file /usr/share/applications/firefox-3.5.desktop for panel launcher: No such file or directory
[06:07] <FeasibilityStudy> mook_ OFTG
[06:07] <CogitoErgoSam> mook made up his mind to be dissatisfied no matter what anyone said
[06:07] <orlok> CogitoErgoSam: it stays in the image, just wondering if its a common probllem
[06:07] <Geoffrey2> obviously, that's because 10.04 doesn't install the 3.5 version of Firefox.....
[06:07] <futsuriai> Hello, is there some way to install a clean 10.04 from within an instance of 9.04 w/o access to external peripherals?
[06:08] <CogitoErgoSam> orlok:  I've never run into it, but my point in asking was to determine if it was a software (follows image) or hardware (stays still) issue
[06:08] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; The laptop if I remember is a Dell Latitude D600 w/2gb's ram or so.
[06:08] <onetinsoldier> mxe5: roger. i've always built my own
[06:08] <orlok> CogitoErgoSam: oh - def. hardware
[06:08] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; It's older but should be fine.
[06:08] <CogitoErgoSam> if it stayed still I'd say it was a problem with the monitor, like stuck pixels
[06:08] <jeeez> i installed xp and did 'grub-install' again to get grub back. now it doesn't show the menu, directly boots into ubuntu, how do i fix this?
[06:08] <dabaR> gerzel: I saw it, just makes no sense.
[06:08] <Geoffrey2> so, is there some file I can edit to strip out this fun stuff?
[06:08] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: what version of unetbootin and how do you point to the ubuntu ISO?
[06:09] <orlok> CogitoErgoSam: i'm using it for astrophotography, i just painted over the LED to make sure it wasnt light bleedfrom that
[06:09] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; Your own laptops? or Desktop clones?
[06:09] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: select it in the GUI
[06:09] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: unetbootin vers 424
[06:09] <Yokanzo> Hello
[06:09] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: drop down menu or browsing for the file?
[06:09] <Yokanzo> Anyone familiar with A8V motherboards?
[06:10] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: either or
[06:10] <onetinsoldier> mxe5: desktops. i've never had a laptop
[06:10] <aaaoooaaa> hi guys i just added a line into fstab to make something work and was wondering what it actually is doing:  none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=userid,devmode=664 0 0
[06:10] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: is it known to matter?
[06:10] <Pike6> Hi Does anyone knows a way to get rid of Grub lines?
[06:10] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[06:10] <winXPuser> ?
[06:10] <mxe5> onetinsoldier; Ah - makes perfect sense.
[06:10] <CogitoErgoSam> Ok who farted
[06:10] <onetinsoldier> lol CogitoErgoSam
[06:11] <aaaoooaaa> CogitoErgoSam: damn barking spiders
[06:11] <YankDownUnder> CogitoErgoSam, Coulda been me - I ate beans last night...
[06:11] <UbuntuJeff> YankDownUnder, well that explains the smell then lol
[06:11] <CogitoErgoSam> I didn't know beans were a standard part of penguin diets
[06:11] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: I never use the drop-down menu
[06:11] <mxe5> YankDownUnder; That'll do it...
[06:11] <YankDownUnder> Yes...my bad... :)
[06:11] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: the drop-down menu doesn't select an iso
[06:11] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: it downloads one
[06:12] <PsynoKhi0> exactly
[06:12] <Callum__> o_O massive netsplit
[06:12] <Yokanzo> I got this problem which is partially related if anyone doesn't mind helping me out for a sec
[06:12] <crucialhoax> When I plug in my usb flash drive it freezes the whole system, ubuntu 10.04 x64
[06:12] <PsynoKhi0> that's why I never use it :P
[06:12] <aaaoooaaa> hi guys i just added a line into fstab to make something work and was wondering what it actually is doing:  none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=userid,devmode=664 0 0
[06:12] <engineer> I want to know basics about System administration, which channel should i join? any help
[06:12] <_pg_> How o install from
[06:12] <_pg_> Shoot
[06:13] <_pg_> How do I install ubuntu on an external
[06:13] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: how did you format the USB?
[06:13] <_pg_> Drive
[06:13] <_pg_> From ubuntu
[06:13] <aaaoooaaa> engineer: maybe redhat?
[06:13] <IdleOne> _pg_: with a cd or USB
[06:13] <YankDownUnder> _pg_, Can the machine boot to an external? You said it was a G3, right?
[06:13] <Yokanzo> Argh.... VIA8237 southbridge controller is driving me insane
[06:14] <aaaoooaaa> engineer: or gentoo?
[06:14] <_pg_> Yes I don't think it can boot USB and it won't boot any ubuntu cd don't know why
[06:14] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: using fdisk
[06:14] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: ext3
[06:14] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: mkfs.ext3 rather
[06:14] <engineer> yes aooooaa
[06:14] <YankDownUnder> Not Gentoo - RHEL, RH straight, SuSE or CentOS is best for "learning" the ins and outs of sysadmin
[06:14] <engineer> its linux administration
[06:14] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: ah, here's your problem, unetbootin works only with FAT32 AFAIK
[06:14] <engineer> i want to know wehter i can learn linux administration at home
[06:15] <wers> for some super weird reason, i can't install Adobe Air with the .bin file. whenever i run the .bin, the output says that the file does not exist. i'm 100% sure that i entered the right file location
[06:15] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: good call!
[06:15] <wers> any idea/
[06:15] <engineer> or do i have to join any particualr
[06:15] <PsynoKhi0> mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdx
[06:15] <dabaR> engineer: well, what are you trying to learn? Anything specific?
[06:15] <PsynoKhi0> I think
[06:15] <dabaR> I mean, pick a distro, install it, and take it from there.
[06:16] <YankDownUnder> wers, The command SHOULD be: ./AdobeAir.bin (and you have to make sure  you're doing it as root, and that it's been chmod +x *.bin)
[06:16] <aaaoooaaa> YankDownUnder: where down under are yuou?
[06:16] <wers> YankDownUnder, i did that. it worked on another laptop but not here
[06:16] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: correction, it works with fat16 to but... :|
[06:16] <YankDownUnder> Another tool for playing with system administration is "Webmin"
[06:16] <aaaoooaaa> lol
[06:16] <crucialhoax> Should I add all my USB drives into fstab or is mtab? They are freezing my laptop upon insertion.
[06:16] <CogitoErgoSam> wers you tryin to run it through the console?
[06:16] <CogitoErgoSam> ahh ignore that
[06:16] <YankDownUnder> aaaoooaaa, I'm in Sydney (basiically)
[06:16] <CogitoErgoSam> screen wasn't scrollin to keep up
[06:16] <wers> CogitoErgoSam, yep. that's the way i'm trying to do it
[06:16] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: so it doesn't work with ext2/3 ?
[06:17] <aaaoooaaa> YankDownUnder: cool
[06:17] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: did you install ubuntu from USB?
[06:17] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: nope
[06:17] <crucialhoax> PsynoKhi0: No, a CD.
[06:17] <CogitoErgoSam> did you put ./ in front of it, assuming you're in the directory it resides in
[06:17] <aybabtu> Im having some issues getting stickam.com to work properly for me. When I click into a livechat, the flash looks all plain and messed up, and it displays my webcam but only when it wants to. Anyone heard of such errors?
[06:17] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: thanks a lot
[06:17] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: hmm ok, had an issue previously with USB acting up because fstab thought they were CDs
[06:18] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: np
[06:18] <dabaR> YankDownUnder: What kind of an advice is "go to another distro" on #ubuntu when someone asks about learning to administer linux systems....
[06:18] <crucialhoax> PsynoKhi0: It did it even in 9.10
[06:18] <Yokanzo> I have an ubuntu 64bit edition but the problem is that my harddrives aren't recognized by the VIA SATA controller attached to my harddisk. I'm forced to use Promise which doesn't have drivers that work in 64 bit unless I raid my drives
[06:18] <Yokanzo> but I don't want to raid them
[06:18] <steven__> why cant i change stuff in compiz
[06:18] <YankDownUnder> dabaR, Not "advise" the person wanted to study up on sysadmin.
[06:18] <Geoffrey2> ok, what exactly is the .xsession-errors file?
[06:18] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: might be a HAL (or lack of) related issue
[06:18] <dabaR> YankDownUnder: so they should get another distro?
[06:18] <CogitoErgoSam> wers: did you put ./ in front of it, assuming you're in the directory it resides in
[06:18] <linuxgecko> how do i force a gui to work???  i can get the pre-gui ubunut loading screen, with dots for s progress bar, but i can't get a gui, and i can't get any errors to help..  it's like it's blindly goofing up.
[06:19] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: can mkfs make fat32 partiitons?
[06:19] <wers> CogitoErgoSam, yep. i even tried putting the whole location
[06:19]  * wad wonders why the heck they moved the window control buttons to the left side of the title bar. Then made it so that there is no simple radio-button somewhere that lets you choose which side you prefer them to be on.
[06:19] <YankDownUnder> dabaR, They should look at every linux distro - and NOT look at M$. We don't have to be distro-centric, but info-centric.
[06:19] <linuxgecko> even if i have to force a vesa driver
[06:19] <crucialhoax> PsynoKhi0: Is there a workaround or a fix? When I plug it in, the usb light dies then the laptop just freezes lol, its quite weird.
[06:19] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: yes, scroll up, I typed the line you need earlier
[06:19] <PsynoKhi0> mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdx
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> linuxgecko, try removing "quiet splash" from your kernel boot option
[06:19] <Quarterstaff> For those that cannot get compiz to work in Ubuntu 10.04. I fixed it for gnome by running sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:19] <dabaR> YankDownUnder: OK, just sounds like a bit of a weird advice to suggest another distro when someone asks for help with learning sysadmin on ##ubuntu
[06:20] <AbuMaia> If I have to cd to directory, then ./program --modifier to run the program, how do I set that up in startup programs
[06:20] <steven__> why cant i change compiz
[06:20] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: text is flying by so fast, can you just psate it again?
[06:20] <dabaR> YankDownUnder: makes it sound like...if you want to do sysadmin, Ubuntu is not really the right tool.
[06:20] <nocturnus> 01:15:12 < PsynoKhi0> mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdx
[06:20] <linuxgecko> ZykoticK9:  noted.. how does that help?
[06:20] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: got it ;/
[06:20] <dabaR> steven__: you tell us
[06:20] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: is the partition type in fdisk w95 fat32?
[06:20] <ZykoticK9> AbuMaia, just use the whole path to the script
[06:20] <CogitoErgoSam> To support what yank's saying, the fact is that different distros come "out of the box" suited for different tasks, and while certainly you can customize any of them to fit your needs, if someone was looking to learn to do sysadmin / hosting stuff, there are specific distros that are more commonly used
[06:20] <nocturnus> 01:15:12 < PsynoKhi0> mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdx
[06:20] <nocturnus> whoops
[06:20] <steven__> dabaR: i like to but i cant
[06:20] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: can't even reach a terminal session with e.g. ctrl alt F2
[06:20] <PsynoKhi0> ?
[06:21] <ZykoticK9> linuxgecko, you'll get more output, and X might start booting
[06:21] <dabaR> steven__: is there something you do in particular, and you get an error, or what?
[06:21] <AbuMaia> ZykoticK9: without the ./ ?
[06:21] <dabaR> CogitoErgoSam: and Ubuntu is poorly suited to being a server?
[06:21] <crucialhoax> PsynoKhi0: Nope, everything is dead. I even tried killing X with Ctrl+alt+Bkspc absolutely nothing works but the power button.
[06:21] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: yes but for some reason I've never gotten it to work from fdisk :P
[06:21] <YankDownUnder> dabaR, If someone is studying history, you can't tell them to only study US history...study EVERYONE'S history. Either which, I'm not a zealot in any sense of the word. As long as they're using linux, that's all that matters.
[06:21] <ZykoticK9> AbuMaia, ./ means from this directory just use /home/USERNAME/REST_OF_PATH -options
[06:22] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: what do you mean?
[06:22] <ZykoticK9> AbuMaia, try running it with full path from a terminal first
[06:22] <CogitoErgoSam> dabaR:  I didn't say that at all.  I admit in the spirit of full disclosure that I don't do much sysadmin stuff, but my point is that there are legitimate reasons to recommend someone interested in learning to sysadmin look at several distros, not just ubuntu exclusively
[06:22] <futsuriai> Hello, is there some way to install a clean 10.04 from within an instance of 9.04 w/o access to external peripherals?
[06:22] <steven__> dabaR: idk when i was running 10.9 i could not do it and now when running the upgraed i cant
[06:22] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: have you activated ctrl+alt+bkspc? in case you're unaware of it it's off by default nowadays in ubuntu
[06:22] <crucialhoax> PsynoKhi0: Yes, it is activated...
[06:23]  * dabaR wonders now whether he should do the same since he uses Ubuntu at work for servers. Maybe there is some purpose in trying out some other distro.
[06:23] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: that setting the partition type as fat32 in fdisk has never worked for me, I use mkfs.vfat
[06:23] <dabaR> steven__: What do you click, what happens.
[06:23] <dabaR> steven__: That's the relevant info.
[06:24] <roger_> Hey everyone
[06:24] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: ok hmm... unfortunately I haven't had my hands on lucid yet, I'm speaking from experience in Arch linux with usb not behaving nice
[06:24] <wers> how do I install a 32bit deb on 64bit lucid (yes, i need to install this 32 bit one. there's no 64bit version)
[06:24] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: well you gotta set the partition type with fdisk, and then build the filesystem - so how could you just have skipped it?
[06:24] <chmac> Anyone know if keyserver.ubuntu.com is down / having issues?
[06:24] <linuxgec1o> dabaR: i tried 3 different ditro's before i settled on my home distro of choice. ubuntu is my "this is your first time away from M$." distro. extreme power-users like myself,  i recommend aanother disstro.
[06:24] <steven__> dabaR: nm i didnot reload it a noob lol
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> wers, "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture $PACKAGE.deb"
[06:25] <dabaR> linuxgec1o: am I on #ubuntu or what?
[06:25] <chmac> I'm trying to add key id B1572604 but getting a timeout error and the web interface isn't loading...
[06:25] <sean12837> I have a PHP script that simply reads some entries from a remote mysql database.  I am running this script on a linux machine which has 4 IPs (eth0, eth0:1 eth0:2, eth0:3).  Is it possible to force the PHP script to use a specific IP to access the remote database?
[06:25] <crucialhoax> PsynoKhi0: Thats fine, anything will help, I am at a loss. I do not understand how inserting a usb drive causes the system entirely to die, usually at the worst times :(
[06:25] <wers> ZykoticK9, thanks a lot!
[06:26] <linuxgec1o> dabaR: yes, you are. i've learned the hard way that while it's good for many thing,   ubuntu us not the best for  EVERYTHING.
[06:26] <DanaG> interesting thing: http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-netbook.png
[06:26] <chmac> sean12837: I'm not sure if you can force that within the PHP script itself, but you could probably bind apache to one IP
[06:26] <DanaG> any of you read Mark Shuttleworth's thing about the new notifications?
[06:26] <Yokanzo> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu supports booting from PCI SATA controller cards on older motherboards?
[06:26] <DanaG> My screenshot shows why it's STILL better to have the buttons on the right. =þ
[06:26] <chmac> sean12837: Maybe more relevant to ##php or #apache though
[06:26] <YankDownUnder> Yokanzo, Should do fine mate
[06:27] <DanaG> Yokanzo: Depends on the motherboard BIOS and the add-in card's ROM, partly.
[06:27] <YankDownUnder> Changing the buttons ain't a hard thing to accomplish...just a gconf hack...
[06:27] <dabaR> linuxgec1o: whatever works is the best for anything, for sure, anyway, thanks for your input.
[06:27] <Geoffrey2> ok, what is the .xsession-errors file?
[06:27] <Yokanzo> I got an A8V Deluxe which means that it came out when SATA was still new
[06:27] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, Um...it contains the errors that X spits forth when not playing nicely...
[06:27] <DanaG> And even if the motherboard doesn't natively support it, you could put a small boot partition on a main drive, and then the rest somewhere else.
[06:28] <Yokanzo> It has a SATA controller attached to the bios but only supports SATA1 while my drives are SATA 2
[06:28] <Yokanzo> i wanted to make a file server
[06:28] <roger_> Yokanzo: I used to have one. It worked great back in the day with other ubuntu distros pre-dating 9.04
[06:28] <YankDownUnder> The real difference between a workstation and a file server: The file server doesn't have your pr0n on it.
[06:28] <Yokanzo> oh great, so the general consensus is that its possible to boot from a SATA controller?
[06:28] <YankDownUnder> :)
[06:28] <PsynoKhi0> nocturnus: my bad, yes, partition type W95 in fdisk, choice code "b"
[06:28] <roger_> lol at yank
[06:28] <CogitoErgoSam> Yank:  Depends how much pr0n you're talking about :D
[06:29] <Yokanzo> Thanks guys, very much appreciated.
[06:29] <roger_> and Yokanzo: I would say yes, That being my experience. But again, not every system is alike.
[06:29] <IdleOne> !ohmy
[06:29] <YankDownUnder> CogitoErgoSam, Ok...true true true....but I was "generalising" :)
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, mine has error messages created by it looking for stuff that doesn't exist anymore...
[06:29] <CogitoErgoSam> I'm just playin' along
[06:29] <nocturnus> PsynoKhi0: right-o
[06:29] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, It's actually safe to delete that file mate...it gets recreated every time you fire up Xorg...
[06:29] <linuxgec1o> dabaR:  yeah..  i tried installing a web app developed in debian by a narrow-minded dev. had some nasty, hard-to-maintain pinning i had to do,  jsut to get it to START working. when you have to go off-road like that,  i hate some things about ubuntu. my other distro is better at "off the normal path" stuff like that.
[06:30] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, which file?
[06:30] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, the .xsession-errors
[06:30] <Yokanzo> What kinda transfer rates can you expect with a SATA card anyway?
[06:30] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, yeah, but that won't solve the errors I keep getting
[06:30] <CogitoErgoSam> no, it won't.  Not all errors are critical though
[06:30] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, gconf-sanity-check has a cow every time I boot up
[06:31] <DanaG> Yokanzo: what matters more is that the add-in card has an "option ROM".
[06:31] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, What you can do (the purpose of this file) is to chase down the programs you DON'T have any longer, and remove them from your desktop environment, or any other related place...(or in settings, etc etc etc)
[06:31] <Yokanzo> What's an option ROM?
[06:31] <DanaG> for example, with a silicon image sata controller, some boards have a jumper to enable or disable it.
[06:31] <linuxgec1o> ZykoticK9: what will removing quiet and slapsh from the boot do for me, to get a non-blank gui?
[06:32] <DanaG> With it enabled, and with the motherboard set to allow "scsi" (and other such terms) boot, it's usable.
[06:32] <linuxgec1o> ZykoticK9:  just unhide all the guts?
[06:32] <CogitoErgoSam> linuxgec1o:  Its no guarantee but, like the i915 attempt, if you do it via the grub menu it can't hurt
[06:32] <DanaG> When a motherboard boots, it pokes all its add-in cards to see if they offer a boot ability.
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> linuxgec1o, it might not do anything - but you might see an error message, or if plymouth splash is the problem will remove it.  Yes unhide all the guts.
[06:32] <Yokanzo> Even older mobos Dana?
[06:32] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, I'd simply like to get rid of the nice box that pops up and tells me gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with a status 256
[06:32] <chmac> Anyone know if keyservers operate on a port other than 80/443?
[06:32] <roger_> haha
[06:33] <Yokanzo> My A8V came out around 2005
[06:33] <abadabad00> hi. i reinstalled pulse audio and my sound finally works. I lost my volume indicator in the taskbar though. I've searched ixquick and google, but no answers. Anyone know how to get the volume icon in the task bar?
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> abadabad00, if lucid - right click, add to panel, indicator applet
[06:34] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, Have you tried removing gconf-sanity-check from the startup applications?
[06:34] <nomad77> abadabad00: try gnome-panel --restart if ZykoticK9 's tip fails
[06:34] <DanaG> Yokanzo: yeah, old motherboards can likely do it, too.
[06:35] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: *
[06:35] <abadabad00> ZykoticK9 - yes, I am in Lucid. Indicator applet unfortunately only adds the envelope (for email)
[06:35] <DanaG> Next time you reboot the thing, if you already have the add-in card, try poking around in the BIOS settings.
[06:35] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: darn sorry, bad paste, hang on
[06:35] <DanaG> Though, something to note: PCI-based SATA controllers are a pain.
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> abadabad00, if you see the mail icon, but no volume - i'm sorry i don't know.  good luck.
[06:35] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, it's not needed?
[06:36] <DanaG> The PCI bus is a bottleneck... heavy disk activity bogs down absolutely everything else.... even things not touching the hard drive.
[06:36] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL#USB_sticks_and_drives_do_not_automount_correctly this is what I experienced in Arch, might be useful to you
[06:36] <abadabad00> nomad77 - "Unknown option --restart"
[06:36] <Yokanzo> Crap
[06:36] <term_oldcomp1> ? got buntu 10.04 setup on this old athlonxp2800+ with 256Mb RAM.  if I upgrade RAM to 512 will it auto detect new amount?
[06:37] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00:  It might be possible through gconf-editor...I'm digging around the Panel settings to see if I can find something corresponding to the volume
[06:37] <DanaG> Yokanzo: what's the onboard chipset?  With ordinary hard drives, you may be better off sticking with onboard SATA.
[06:37] <roger_> term_oldcomp1 yes it will
[06:37] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - thanks!
[06:37] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, Well, depends on yer perspective. Does everything work already without it spitting forth a cow every time you boot?
[06:37] <ZykoticK9> nomad77, abadabad00 to restart gnome-panel, just kill it and it should auto restart with "killall gnome-panel"
[06:37] <Yokanzo> I have two onboard chipsets
[06:37] <crucialhoax> PsynoKhi0: Thanks :)
[06:37] <Yokanzo> a Promise SaTA 378 TX2
[06:37] <PsynoKhi0> term_oldcomp1: most probably yes, unless maybe the sticks are bad
[06:37] <PsynoKhi0> crucialhoax: np!
[06:38] <mello> do you speak spanish?
[06:38] <Neff> hello i installed the ISO on a SD card for my netbook and it stops at the initramfs prompt with mount usage
[06:38] <malu> hi
[06:38] <mello> hi
[06:38] <ZykoticK9> !es | mello
[06:38] <DanaG> hmm, if "Promise" is real SATA raid, that may still be worthwhile.
[06:38] <Yokanzo> and a VIA VT8237 Southbridge
[06:38] <Yokanzo> These controllers are a part of the motherboard
[06:38] <Yokanzo> now the VIA has been giving me shit ever since I had this machine
[06:38] <itsfaith> I have an AMD K3 3D processor, this laptop has 28mb ram. Is there a version of Ubuntu that'll work on it?
[06:39] <mello> !uk mello
[06:39] <DanaG> yeah, VIA is a pain.
[06:39] <abadabad00> ZykoticK9 - the taskbar momentarily disappeared and came back, but no volume
[06:39] <malu> I want to know Tamil to english transliteration tool?
[06:39] <Yokanzo> It wont detect either of my harddrives because they are SATA2
[06:39] <Yokanzo> even if I set a jumper to limit it to 150 mb/s
[06:39] <DanaG> Hmm, check the drive for a jumper to set them to SATA1 mode.
[06:39] <term_oldcomp1> ? another q, this old comp has a raptor 74Gb.. doesn't seem to be running full speed.  any way to confirm it's set right switch wise?
[06:39] <PsynoKhi0> itsfaith: 28MB? is it a typo? :)
[06:39] <grung0r> SInce upgrading to 10.4,there is something funky about my graphics driver settings. I can't get above 1152x864, and it resets to 640x480 upon every restart. furthermore, the window widgets are missing in gnome until I enable the extra effects, which I also have to do upon every restart. any suggestions?
[06:39] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00:  I'm also looking around and there might be a way through the user settings as well, located at /home/<username>/.gconf/apps/panel
[06:39] <itsfaith> No, rofl
[06:39] <Yokanzo> Yeah I tried using a jumper the VIA will have none of it
[06:39] <roger_> rofl
[06:39] <roger_> wow dude
[06:39] <itsfaith> 3gb harddrive
[06:40] <DanaG> bleh.  stupid Via.
[06:40] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00:  If I find a key for the volume app specifically I'll let ya know
[06:40] <itsfaith> Heck, I just want any linux on it
[06:40] <DanaG> Promise sounds.... uh... pun.  never mind. =-þ
[06:40] <Neff> has anyone successfulling installed the netbook ubuntu with an SD or flash drive?
[06:40] <Yokanzo> The promise would've been fine and that is how i'm able to talk to you
[06:40] <Yokanzo> but i'm trying to dual boot with windows 7
[06:40] <Yokanzo> 64 bit
[06:40] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - Okay
[06:40] <Yokanzo> and theres no such thing as promise drivers for 64bit in IDE mode
[06:40] <Yokanzo> i'd have to cheat and make a raid with 1 drive
[06:40] <Yokanzo> but that means losing valuable data on these drives
[06:40] <term_oldcomp1> hey itsfaith...  try out Puppy Linux for that comp.  it's a dream for older systems
[06:40] <DanaG> hmm, no option to put it in RAID mode yet not configure RAID?
[06:40] <itsfaith> It's not my main computer or anything just a play around old one
[06:40] <crucialhoax> PsynoKhi0: I might have found something...
[06:41] <PsynoKhi0> itsfaith: hmm not sure you'll be able to use anything that the net install, and don't count on having a GUI :P
[06:41] <PsynoKhi0> itsfaith: anything else than*
[06:41] <itsfaith> dang, but windows 98 runs on it
[06:41] <Yokanzo> Like the promise controller was intended for a 2 disk raid but i set it to IDE mode which is basically JBOD
[06:41] <ZykoticK9> abadabad00, do you have indicator-sound installed?  to verify in terminal "apt-cache policy indicator-sound"
[06:41] <PsynoKhi0> itsfaith: and win98 is 12 years old ^^ BUT!!
[06:41] <Yokanzo> the bios allows me to do this
[06:41] <Yokanzo> the VIA on the otherhand is totally fussy
[06:41] <PsynoKhi0> itsfaith: check out DeLi Linux
[06:41] <Yokanzo> Thats why i have two options
[06:42] <itsfaith> i heard of this mintlinux thing, is that good?
[06:42] <itsfaith> Ok
[06:42] <Yokanzo> either somehow beg for a refund on my Win7 ultimate edition 64bit and get 32 bit instead once again underusing the 64bit capabilities of my CPU
[06:42] <amabo> i installed the radel-egtk theme and i'd like to remove it and try reinstalling it - how might i do that?
[06:42] <term_oldcomp1> Linux Mint using more resources than normal ubuntu
[06:42] <Yokanzo> or get a controller
[06:42] <nomad77> itsfaith: maybe tinycore on that
[06:42] <PsynoKhi0> itsfaith: mintlinx is based on ubuntu... ubuntu no-go = mint no-go
[06:43] <itsfaith> ok
[06:43] <DanaG> Yokanzo: what actual motherboard is it?
[06:43] <PsynoKhi0> itsfaith: DeLi Linux is aimed at computer with 20.30MB RAM
[06:43] <Yokanzo> Asus A8V Delux
[06:43] <PsynoKhi0> computers*
[06:43] <itsfaith> oh cool
[06:43] <Yokanzo> Asus A8V Deluxe*
[06:43] <Gadena> Why mint? Is it better?
[06:43] <abadabad00> ZykoticK9 - Installed "none"
[06:44] <itsfaith> i just heard http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100304122412AAzXd6V
[06:44] <itsfaith> er saw it suggested there
[06:44] <suji> Let me know any web conferencing tool for ubuntu?
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> abadabad00, "sudo apt-get install indicator-sound" then :)
[06:44] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00:  I'm afk a few minutes but then I'll keep look around for ya, if you find an answer in the meantime send me a PM so I can know how to do it too :D
[06:44] <prayii> itsfaith: take all yahoo answers with a grain of salt
[06:44] <itsfaith> for sure, thats why i came in here
[06:44] <roger_> Prayii: I totally agree.
[06:45] <Yokanzo> If Promise tech actually made 64bit drivers instead of acting like a bunch of jerks I'd have no problems
[06:45] <roger_> Most are stupids copy+paste
[06:45] <term_oldcomp1> ? is there a way to edit grub menu from windows x64 ?
[06:45] <PsynoKhi0> Gadena: depends, Mint ships with all the proprietary codecs pre-installed, has a different theme, and a few extra tools...
[06:45] <DanaG> Yokanzo: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-IE/vistawu/thread/3b5e83b6-fe37-48a4-8f8f-77d911879ad7
[06:46] <DanaG> though, that's a topic more for ##windows
[06:46] <itsfaith> ug, slow going deli linux dl
[06:46] <PsynoKhi0> :P
[06:47] <PsynoKhi0> there should be torrent
[06:47] <itsfaith> tinycore have a ui?
[06:47] <DanaG> try other mirrors.
[06:47] <PsynoKhi0> yes
[06:47] <itsfaith> ger gui
[06:47] <itsfaith> er gui, rather, hah. forgive me
[06:47] <term_oldcomp1> btw I want to thank the ubuntu team for making samba sharing work by default
[06:47] <malu>  I want to know Tamil to english transliteration tool?
[06:47] <PsynoKhi0> itsfaith: another alternative: lowRAM flavour of SliTaz
[06:48] <nomad77> itsfaith: check distrowatch.com,yes a gui
[06:48] <itsfaith> ok swell
[06:49] <crucialhoax> !fstab > crucialhoax
[06:49] <PsynoKhi0> itsfaith: http://www.slitaz.org/en/get/flavors.html
[06:49] <itsfaith> heard it doesn't support usb drives
[06:50] <itsfaith> on that page?
[06:50] <itsfaith> lol
[06:50] <ftab> can I have /etc/default/grub file content please, I am using Lucid Lynx but the file is empty for me
[06:50] <ftab> ?
[06:50] <datroubler> good morning i have a problem installing the fglrx driver since the update to 10.4
[06:51] <Yokanzo> Thanks Dana I'll check it out
[06:51] <PsynoKhi0> ok I'll try again with a concrete example: I currently run karmic/arch linux as dual boot on an oldish laptop, ubuntu manages grub, both share a partition for home, different users... I'm planning to upgrade to Lucid, do I need to pass the partman/alignment=cylinder parameter at the start of the ubuntu installation?
[06:51] <NeoCicak> hi all... quick question.. is the amd64 version of ubuntu ISO going to work for intel 64 bits processor ? (i have a core 2 duo laptop)
[06:52] <NeoCicak> or is the amd64 ISO only going to work with AMD processors?
[06:52] <Geoffrey2> interesting...I'm in the .gnome2 folder in my home directory, and see no session file....assuming it's been moved or renamed?
[06:52] <UbuntuJeff> NeoCicak, it will work on your core 2 duo
[06:52] <Gnea> NeoCicak: no it works with anything 64-bit - intel and amds
[06:52] <CogitoErgoSam> Neo:  It works fine with my intel Q6600
[06:52] <Gnea> NeoCicak: but not itaniums
[06:53] <PsynoKhi0> NeoCicak: works with intel 64bits (not itanuim)
[06:53] <NeoCicak> Gnea: thx... the word 'amd' is misleading then :P
[06:53] <amabo> could anyone help me in how i might go about installing these themes? http://dg09.deviantart.com/art/Nuala-Port-for-Linux-157697487?offset=10#comments
[06:53] <Gnea> !amd64
[06:53] <doleyb_> NeoCicak: well amd came out with it first, so intel is like the copycat there..
[06:53] <PsynoKhi0> NeoCicak: so is i386 then ;)
[06:53] <NeoCicak> hehehe.. yeah, i suppose
[06:53] <Gnea> NeoCicak: feel free to suggest another :)
[06:53] <NeoCicak> thx all
[06:54] <mN-Jack> how can u use linux to see satellite view?
[06:54] <mN-Jack> :P
[06:54] <mN-Jack> anyone?
[06:54] <mN-Jack> any clue :P
[06:54] <dhruvasagar> mN-Jack: satellite view of what ?
[06:54] <dhruvasagar> mN-Jack: what about google-earth
[06:54] <Cory`> Anyone know where to download the new ubuntu logo font?
[06:55] <PsynoKhi0> satellite view? you mean google earth?
[06:55] <mN-Jack> not really
[06:55] <_Zappy__> Hello ! How can I force the Software Center to install new software on another partition ?
[06:55] <Streetboys> helo gud day can i ask something
[06:55] <mN-Jack> like live
[06:55] <dhruvasagar> mN-Jack: google maps also has a satellite view
[06:55] <ZykoticK9> !ask | Streetboys
[06:55] <dhruvasagar> mN-Jack: live ? how can you do it in windows ?
[06:55] <UbuntuJeff> amabo, I am looking for you and trying to figure it out for ya
[06:55] <dhruvasagar> Streetboys: just ask :)
[06:56] <mN-Jack> keke
[06:56] <Streetboys> ubunt vs windows 7.. which ic better
[06:56] <mN-Jack> impossible huh
[06:56] <Streetboys> ping
[06:56] <Streetboys> !ping
[06:56] <Mohero> Please use the format !ping {location} {# of pings (default of 5, 20 max)}
[06:56] <dhruvasagar> Streetboys: ubuntu :)
[06:56] <abadabad00> so very close. I got sound working again with pulse (i really want to keep using pulse), but the configuration settings reset upon restart (or logout). Anyone know how to get sound settings to stick even after a logout?
[06:56] <amabo> UbuntuJeff: thanks!!
[06:56] <bazhang> !ot > Streetboys
[06:56] <_Zappy__> Hello ! How can I force the Software Center to install new software on another partition ?
[06:56] <datroubler> good morning i have a problem installing the fglrx driver since the update to 10.4
[06:56] <PsynoKhi0> Streetboys: depends on what you want to do
[06:56] <dhruvasagar> mN-Jack: can you do it in any other operating system !?
[06:56] <dhruvasagar> !repeat
[06:56] <CogitoErgoSam> aba:  Where are you saving teh settings
[06:56] <mN-Jack> like??
[06:56] <YankDownUnder> Streetboys, Cost? Ubuntu. Time spent getting it to do what you want? Ubuntu. Support issues? Ubuntu. Drive space? Ubuntu. Lack of viruses and crap? Ubuntu. Your choice.
[06:57] <dhruvasagar> !repeat | _Zappy__
 why ubuntu
[06:57] <mN-Jack> backtrack?
[06:57] <bazhang> Streetboys, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[06:57] <_Zappy__> I guess nobody knows then
[06:57] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: what problem?
[06:57] <dhruvasagar> Streetboys: because you have much better control over your system, all the tools that are there are free, there is a huge community of people ever ready to help...the list goes on
[06:57] <YankDownUnder> Streetboys, Tell you this - Ubuntu has gone far out of it's way to be the easiest, simplest, fastest install with best apps and best support. End of story.
[06:57] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469496
[06:57] <shleda> hi, can some one help me with this issue which I am facing after upgrade -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1471584
[06:58] <MrKeuner> intel wifi 5300 keeps getting disconnected sporadically, anybody has a solution for that?
[06:58] <dhruvasagar> mN-Jack: your asking if its possible to view live satellite view in ubuntu, I am simply asking if it is possible in any other operating system ? do you know any such tool at all!?
[06:58] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 i already talked with minimec here in the chat but we couldn't find a solution
[06:58] <Geoffrey2> ok, can someone tell me where the gnome sessions file is?
[06:58] <UbuntuJeff> amabo, well I can tell you right off the bat, the NualaBlack and BLue and Graphite and those themes, you need to have emerald installed, then open the emerald theme manager and you can install those .emerald files
[06:58] <alclgl> is the intel atom n450 processor considered a x86_64?
[06:58] <mN-Jack> no i dont know
[06:58] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 in the board nobody answers my qustion
[06:58] <cjae> If I have openoffice installed shouldn't I have java installed?
[06:58] <amabo> UbuntuJeff: i figured - i'm installing emerald now
[06:59] <cjae> Cannot install frostwire says no java
[06:59] <Prez00> hello
[06:59] <dhruvasagar> mN-Jack: I don't know either, i've never heard of any. I know there are some eclipse based tools that NASA uses to do the same, but then they have the direct access to the satellites
[06:59] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00:  Got it!  sudo apt-get install indicator-sound
[06:59] <abadabad00> Streetboys: Depends on what you are planning to use your computer for. For example, I dualboot between Windows XP and Ubuntu 10.04. I use Ubuntu because I don't like constantly being attacked while on the internet (exploits, trojans, viruses, etc.). I also use specific programs in Ubuntu that don't run in Windows. On the flip-side, I use Windows because there are several programs in there that only run in windows (my EPROM progra
[06:59] <abadabad00> mmer for example), and I even have hardware that only runs in windows (my scanner).
[06:59] <Prez00> who's running intel 965 chipset?  I try to activate compiz and i get windows with no borders...i think i remember having a similar issue with karmic, but not quite sure
[06:59] <shleda> cjae: you may have to locate java and set its path in your rc profile/shell profile
[06:59] <mN-Jack> yep yep
[06:59] <ZykoticK9> !emerald > amabo
[06:59] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00:  Then just remove and add the indicator applet to the panel again
[06:59] <dhruvasagar> !repeat > dhruvasagar
[06:59] <Cory`> Anyone know where to download the new ubuntu logo font?
[07:00] <dhruvasagar> !repeat | dhruvasagar
[07:00] <dhruvasagar> !repeat > _Zappy__
[07:00] <AbuMaia> Cory`: I don't know if it's completed yet
[07:00] <MilesT> whats a command for performing arithmetic operations to values while in the command line ( eg program | cut -b25-34 | ?? )
[07:00] <Sna4x8> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade to 10.04.  I get this error: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-21-generic\ Can't open /scripts/functions\gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[07:00] <YankDownUnder> Cory`, I'd check the Ubuntu home page => media and marketing, etc etc etc
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> Cory`, I still don't think the font is ready - i could certainly be wrong though
[07:00] <Cory`> ahh
[07:00] <Cory`> ok
[07:00] <YankDownUnder> Sna4x8, Sounds like your /boot is, um, full.
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> Sna4x8, guess your drive is full
[07:00] <Sna4x8> MilesT: You can use bc.
[07:01] <dhruvasagar> !help
[07:01] <dhruvasagar> !commands
[07:01] <dhruvasagar> !list
[07:01] <ftab> how do I install usplash on lucid lynx ?
[07:01] <Sna4x8> YankDownUnder: Ahh, yea I guess it has 94% usage.
[07:01] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, /msg ubottu please
[07:01] <IdleOne> dhruvasagar: stop that
[07:01] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - thanks! I've got things working now! Only thing is my setup (one Sound Blaster Audigy 4 and one M-Audio Audiophile 192) doesn't work properly unless I configure it with 'paconfig'. But the config doesn't stick (if I restart or even log out and log back in without a restart it goes back to 'normal' / nonworking mode). Any idea how to get the settings to stick?
[07:01] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: ok will try that
[07:01] <Sna4x8> YankDownUnder: I have 123GB free on my main partition though.  So what, I need to resize boot?
[07:01] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Um - Lynx uses plymouth...
[07:01] <dhruvasagar> I was just trying to get a list of commands that ubottu recognizes
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> Sna4x8, Yeah - just by about 50mb mate
[07:02] <Xcell> hey, why is it when i try to install 195.36.24 in 10.04, it tells me that i have logcal errors  ??
[07:02] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, /msg ubottu factoids
[07:02] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00: Where are the settings in question being saved?
[07:02] <Sna4x8> YankDownUnder: Word *busts out gparted.  Thanks.
[07:02] <ftab> YankDownUnder, when I try to start StartupManager it exits with this error Grub2 detected
[07:02] <ftab> Usplash not detected
[07:02] <ftab> Splashy not detected
[07:02] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: thank you
[07:02] <abadabad00> Streetboys: You need more help? Just msg me and we can talk about what you are using your computer for (programs, aims, objectives, etc) and then figure out a solution for you (ubuntu, windows, dualboot, whatever...)
[07:02] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: right off the bat, I think the opensource driver doesn't have powersaving in the versin that ships withLucid, no wonder it turns hot
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Um...cuz usplash ain't installed...PLYMOUTH is installed...
[07:03] <Xcell> maybe 10.04 is still 2 broke to handle it.
[07:03] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - not sure
[07:03] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 yes but with 9.10 i had no problem with fglrx
[07:03] <_Zappy__> What's the point in having a seperate storage partition if in the Software Center you can't say where to install new software to ?
[07:03] <ftab> YankDownUnder, how do I fix my boot screen ?
[07:03] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - I run paconfig from the commandline but it just opens up a GUI. No way to tell what it is doing behind the scenes...
[07:03] <ftab> YankDownUnder, is there utility there for fixing that ?
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> ftab, If you want, you can remove plymouth (and it's themes) and install usplash and startupmangler all in one go.
[07:03] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00:  try running it from the command line with the parameter --help
[07:04] <MikaelEriksson> Hiya folks. Here's my problem. I upgraded the other day from KK to LL. Did it straight from the software update center. Everything went kinda fine, until I got a question about GRUB and which partition it should be installed to. My mouse finger slipped, and I pressed Next, without selecting a partition. Got a message which told me I did bad, but the Back-button didn't work :( The system...
[07:04] <MikaelEriksson> ...continued to install just fine, but when i rebooted it hung. I get the startup screen with some funky red dots, but it freezes there. What should I do now? Don't really want to install everything from scratch...
[07:04] <YankDownUnder> ftab, apt-get remove plymouth && apt-get install usplash startupmanager
[07:04] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - Good call! Unfortunately it still just opened up the GUI
[07:05] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: did you you do a web upgrade?
[07:05] <ftab> YankDownUnder, I would like to keep plymouth, but I need to fix the boot image, where the image is distorted ? and the color depth seems to be very low like 8bit,
[07:05] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00:  Next up, see if the application has a hidden folder in your home directory for its settings
[07:05] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - lemme see what ixquick.com can turn up
[07:05] <UbuntuJeff> amabo, did you get it to work?
[07:05] <datroubler>  PsynoKhi0 yes
[07:05] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: ah :(
[07:05] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - k... checking home folder
[07:05] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: do you have a separate /home partition? >.<
[07:06] <Aimmortal> server irc.prison.net
[07:06] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: I mean, did you do a web upgrade from Karmic to Lucid?
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Then you can just install a different plymouth-theme => and also check the settings in /etc/default/grub
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> I was lucid before I installed 10.04...been that way for at least 12 years...
[07:06] <datroubler>  PsynoKhi0 good question what do you mean with it? i have only one partition for ubuntu and the /home folder is on the same partition
[07:07] <CogitoErgoSam> abadabad00:  Most of the time user settings and configurations get saved in a hidden folder in your home directory, and most programs check there first for settings.  Following that, the usual alternative location is the application's folder in /etc/
[07:07] <ftab> YankDownUnder, when I try to view /etc/default/grub the file seems to be empty. How can I restore that?
[07:07] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: damn
[07:07] <YankDownUnder> ftab, That is not an image, it's a text file that contains the settings for grub.
[07:07] <datroubler>  PsynoKhi0 why?
[07:07] <amabo> UbuntuJeff: no i didn't - every time i click the file in emerald theme manager it doesn't change a thing
[07:07] <ftab> YankDownUnder, yes, I from view I meant there is no content
[07:07] <amabo> does anyone know of a fix?
[07:08] <urkki> Where can  I find tomboy-folder, can't find it in home folder, even when hidden are shown
[07:08] <UbuntuJeff> amabo, are you running compiz atm?
[07:08] <amabo> visual effects?
[07:08] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: ok web upgrades in my experience aren't reliable
[07:08] <CogitoErgoSam> ftab have you tried reinstalling grub?
[07:08] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Hmmm...and you're running 10.04?
[07:08] <UbuntuJeff> amabo, yeah like the cube and all that
[07:08] <ftab> YankDownUnder, yes
[07:09] <amabo> UbuntuJeff: believe so
[07:09] <ftab> CogitoErgoSam, what would that do? and is there any reason for doing that ?
[07:09] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Are you "root" when you view this file?
[07:09] <datroubler>  PsynoKhi0 i believe you. did you read my problem in the thread?
[07:09] <ftab> YankDownUnder, yes
[07:09] <UbuntuJeff> amabo, hit ctrl alt R I think, it should bring up RUN APPLICATION, type in that emerald --replace, see if that shows it then.
[07:09] <AbuMaia> amabo: alt F2 also
[07:10] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Strange that. It should contain heaps of stuff...like, um, it's 865 bytes long...
[07:10] <CogitoErgoSam> ftab:  The majority of apps like grub, when installed, run setup scripts that generate default config files like /etc/default/grub.  If its missing, resinstalling might trigger the creation of those files.
[07:10] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: I was wondering if you had /home on a separate partition, or at least if a clean installation of ubuntu might not imply too much work for you
[07:10] <amabo> UbuntuJeff: woo woo :) thanks
[07:10] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Nab a copy of /etc/default/grub from the livecd, copy it to /etc/default/ and see if that resolves the issue with image resolution...
[07:10] <ftab> CogitoErgoSam, how do I reinstall it? YankDownUnder would that be better ?
[07:11] <ftab> YankDownUnder, I don't have CD ROM :( , I always upgrade from internet
[07:11] <UbuntuJeff> amabo, welcome, now if you want it to stay that way permanently, you will need to change the command that controls the window decorations in Compiz config settings manager, just to let you know.
[07:11] <Geoffrey2> there are never times I feel more like drinking than when I'm trying to diagnose some problem with Ubuntu.....
[07:11] <YankDownUnder> ftab, No...it would not be better...it's simpler to copy a single file than to sit through an entire re-installation...
[07:11] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Well, it's easy enough to grab the file from the source ftp dirs mate.
[07:11] <ftab> YankDownUnder, ok let me give it a try
[07:11] <CogitoErgoSam> ftab:  Replacing the single file would be easier, definitely.  But if that doesn't work, reinstalling might.
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Roger that - going for a smoko and coffee...
[07:12] <CogitoErgoSam> ftab:  Since if you're missing one file, there might be more missing too.
[07:12] <amabo> UbuntuJeff: what do you mean?
[07:12] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: btw can you translate the last error message about the package system?
[07:12] <datroubler> yes mom
[07:12] <PsynoKhi0> that sounded way weird...
[07:12] <teratoma> im running lucid.  my wireless nic rt2570 stopped working.  iwas running lucid beta.  what do i do ?
[07:12] <UbuntuJeff> amabo, meaning if you restart or log out and log back in right now, that will be changed at the top, the window buttons and all that, it will be what it was before. If you want it to use the emerald theme from now on I can tell you how to set it to do so if you want.
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> CogitoErgoSam, This is true, but he does have things relatively running...so he needs to get a fish, first, then find out if he needs a boat, crew and gear next...
[07:13] <phoenix_srv> Hello everyone, I got a bit of a question. Last night I upgraded from ubuntu 9.10 to ubuntu 10.04, and at one point, i was asked a few questions regarding installing grub. I opted to install the grub on all disks and partitions (i.e., /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc) - i have windows seven installed on this system, and now, whenever i attempt to boot it, grub just hangs with the little underscore in the top left of the screen. Is there a way I can rem
[07:13] <amabo> UbuntuJeff: that'd be great
[07:13] <phoenix_srv> thanks
[07:13] <Geoffrey2> many, many moons ago, gnome had a file called sessions, and it listed all the applications that would be run every time it was fired up...apparently it no longer exists, as i can't find it...anyone know what I should be looking for?
[07:13] <datroubler>  PsynoKhi0 "the package system is damaged" "check the package sources (third party) if this is the case deactivate them and do apt-get install -f"
[07:13] <YankDownUnder> phoenix_srv, I use a Vista recovery disk to rebuild the boot - then it works fine.
[07:13] <datroubler>  PsynoKhi0 i already did it
[07:14] <UbuntuJeff> amabo, System => Preferences => Compiz Config Settings Manager, scroll down till you see  Window Decoration, open that and you will see something that says Command: /usr/bin/compiz-decorator <== change that to emerald --replace
[07:14] <ZykoticK9> Geoffrey2, it's gone.  I don't know of a gui replacement currently.
[07:14] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: ok, do this: go to System > Software sources
[07:14] <AbuMaia> I have a program that *only* runs if I use ./ while in its directory.  It does not run if I call it in terminal with the full path.  Is there any way I can add it to startup programs and have it successfully run?
[07:14] <phoenix_srv> YankDownUnder: in reference to your reply, thank you, but as stated above, i haven't created the recovery disk yet, and also, i am not able to boot the vista recovery partition
[07:14] <CogitoErgoSam> YankDownUnder:  I concede the point; my perspective in recommending reinstalling is related to the number of people with lucid install probs stemming from incomplete or interrupted installations, and reinstalling a single app like grub still tends to be pretty quick, unlike a full reinstall.
[07:15] <YankDownUnder> CogitoErgoSam, You get the beer tonight mate!
[07:15] <ZykoticK9> AbuMaia, could you share the whole path?  are there spaces in it's name?
[07:15] <YankDownUnder> phoenix_srv, There is a d/l on the net of an ISO that's about 100mb in size - does the Vista boot recovery for ya
[07:15] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - no luck on finding the config files, but that may be because it is just using 'normal' pulseaudio bundled utilities. I dug up where I originally got the file: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=759147   Wonder why the changes in pulseaudio config isn't sticking past a restart
[07:15] <phoenix_srv> YankDownUnder: is that a free download (legally)? if so, that'd be a great help :) thanks
[07:15] <ururus> does anyone get paid doing this tech support?
[07:16] <ururus> or do anyone do tech support on side of irc ?
[07:16] <AbuMaia> ZykoticK9: no spaces.  full path is /home/abumaia/BOINC/boinc --daemon  Using that full path does not work, it only runs when I'm in the BOINC directory and run ./boinc --daemon
[07:16] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: do you have the Software Source window in front of you?
[07:16] <datroubler>  PsynoKhi0 yes
[07:16] <Geoffrey2> ok, so I'm chased my tail back to the starting point, basically
[07:16] <CogitoErgoSam> ururus:  Pretty sure we're all just linux nerds, but the way I see it is that the more I help others the more I learn myself
[07:16] <ldez> Having a strange problem where for a few weeks now when I go to a site with an embedded YouTube video, it shows the video, ready to be started, all buttons appear fine.. but I get no response when hitting the play button... Works fine if I pull up YouTube.com and search the name of the video.. seems just to be an issue with embedded YouTube.... other embedded flash player works fine, only have noticed the issue with YouTube specifically... any hel
[07:16] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: ok, what repositories are enabled for yu right now?
[07:17] <YankDownUnder> phoenix_srv, Yes mate - got it a while back - just had to google it a bit and WHAM, it was there (and free)
[07:17] <ZykoticK9> AbuMaia, i don't know then.  Good luck.
[07:17] <ururus> CogitoErgoSam: true
[07:17] <phoenix_srv> alright, thanks, i'll take a look
[07:17] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: and on which default server?
[07:17] <CogitoErgoSam> AbuMaia:  try this:  /home/abumaia/BOINC/boinc\ --daemon
[07:18] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: I don't want to stress you but I gotta go to work very soon :/
[07:18] <MikaelEriksson> phoenix_srv: I have exactly the same problem...but the opposite. I didn't select any partition (my finger slipped) and now Ubuntu hangs on the start screen. No Vista installation on my system, I just upgraded. I really don't know what to do...
[07:18] <ZykoticK9> CogitoErgoSam, affraid that's not correct
[07:18] <muffin2> Does anybody run ubuntu guest in sun virtualbox?
[07:18] <_Zappy__> Hello !
[07:18] <muffin2> I think I found a solution to boot time pause on ubunt lucid when shared folders are in /etc/fstab.
[07:18] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 do you mean this: http://www.abload.de/img/udey45l.png
[07:18] <AbuMaia> CogitoErgoSam: nope, gives me a "no such file or directory" error >_<
[07:18] <phoenix_srv> MikaelEriksson: for you, i'd probably recommend just booting up from the live cd, and reinstalling grub from scratch using that
[07:19] <Geoffrey2> the immediate question is, since I upgraded ubuntu to 10.04, every bootup has gconf-sanity-check exiting with a status 256...it was suggested I simply remove that from the Startup Applications, but it doesn't even show up on the list of startup applications
[07:19] <phoenix_srv> that should fix your problem
[07:19] <CogitoErgoSam> Abumaia:  you could try moving the app to /usr/bin to make it accessible from anywhere
[07:19] <_Zappy__> Is it possible to install software from the package manager and tell it to install on another partition then the main one where ubuntu's system lives ?
[07:19] <CogitoErgoSam> abumaia:  You'll need to use sudo to cp it there
[07:19] <phoenix_srv> and YankDownUnder, i believe i found the updated version of your disk here: http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/
[07:19] <arand> muffin2: Report it on the bug report ;)
[07:19] <phoenix_srv> just in case you ever need the reference
[07:19] <Gypsyfetish> can I update from the 10.04 re lease candidate to the LTS version from the update manager? or is it better to do a fresh install?
[07:19] <muffin2> arand : Upstart coders are already on it.
[07:19] <muffin2> I just want to provide an impromptu circumvention
[07:19] <ZykoticK9> _Zappy__, moving install locations in Linux is Non-Trivial.... ie. very hard to do.  Good luck man.
[07:20] <maco> Gypsyfetish: if you install updates youre there
[07:20] <MikaelEriksson> phoenix_srv: yep, sounds clever. (re)-installing grub is obviously an option on the live cd?
[07:20] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: argh I'm using irssi in xterm, having trouble using URLs :( anyway, try this: change the default server, and reload your package list
[07:20] <CogitoErgoSam> abumaia:  or make a symbolic link to it in /usr/bin
[07:20] <Gypsyfetish> ty Maco
[07:20] <AbuMaia> CogitoErgoSam: I'd rather not.  It contains several files in the middle of being processed, and moving it out of /home renders it vulnerable if I have to do a reinstall
[07:20] <YankDownUnder> phoenix_srv, Yeppers - dotssit! Ta!
[07:20] <phoenix_srv> MikaelEriksson: yes, there is some official documentation on it
[07:20] <phoenix_srv> I'll just grab you a link
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> !final > Gypsyfetish
[07:20] <AbuMaia> CogitoErgoSam: ln -s /home/abumaia/BOINC /usr/bin/BOINC ?
[07:20] <_Zappy__> ZykoticK9, So . I guess the best thing to do is just increase my Ubuntu system partition ?
[07:20] <CogitoErgoSam> AbuMaia:  How about just making a link to it in /usr/bin?
[07:20] <MikaelEriksson> phoenix_srv: sweet, much appreciated!
[07:20] <PsynoKhi0> MikaelEriksson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:20] <ldez> All: Having a strange problem where for a few weeks now when I go to a site with an embedded YouTube video, it shows the video, ready to be started, all buttons appear fine.. but I get no response when hitting the play button... Works fine if I pull up YouTube.com and search the name of the video.. seems just to be an issue with embedded YouTube.... other embedded flash player works fine, only have noticed the issue with YouTube specifically... an
[07:21] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, I believe you'd suggested simply removing gconf-sanity-check-2 from the startup list...problem is, I don't see it there...is there a file I need to modify to take it out?
[07:21] <arand> muffin2: THis channel, in it's temporary nature, might not be the best medium, forum/blog/bugcomment would likely cater a better audience.
[07:21] <ZykoticK9> _Zappy__, i install a lot of commercial gaves, so i have a huge / partition (it drives me a little crazy when all these people recommend 8GB / partitions - they wouldn't work for me)
[07:21] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, I'll check - hang tight mate
[07:21] <phoenix_srv> MikaelEriksson: PsynoKhi0 beet me too it :P
[07:21] <CogitoErgoSam> abumaia:  yeah I think that ln command will work
[07:21] <phoenix_srv> beat*
[07:21] <MikaelEriksson> And thx to you, too, psynokhi0!
[07:21] <PsynoKhi0> phoenix_srv: too slow my little padawan!
[07:21] <PsynoKhi0> :D
[07:21] <phoenix_srv> haha, yes indeed
[07:21] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, okie
[07:22] <PsynoKhi0> MikaelEriksson: så lite så
[07:22] <abadabad00> CogitoErgoSam - no luck on finding the config files, but that may be because it is just using 'normal' pulseaudio bundled utilities. I dug up where I originally got the file: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=759147   Wonder why the changes in pulseaudio config isn't sticking past a restart
[07:22] <MikaelEriksson> psynokhi0!: Men värt så mycket!
[07:22] <_Zappy__> ZykoticK9, So how can you tyell it to install and search apps in another partiton ?
[07:22] <PsynoKhi0> MikaelEriksson: tsh english!
[07:22] <PsynoKhi0> ;)
[07:22] <MikaelEriksson> May the Force be with you all. Back to work now.
[07:22] <ZykoticK9> _Zappy__, you can't
[07:23] <_Zappy__> ZykoticK9, That's a bummer
[07:23] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: how is it going?
[07:23] <_Zappy__> So it can only store data ?
[07:23] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 i get the message that i have 2 damaged packages
[07:23] <AbuMaia> CogitoErgoSam: nope, still no luck.  trying to run boinc by itself raises a not installed error, and full /usr/bin/BOINC/boinc path has same result as before
[07:23] <DanaG> hmm, how usable is btrfs with ubuntu?
[07:24] <ZykoticK9> _Zappy__, you could mount /usr or /opt to another parition and that would work - but again, non-trivial if you already have stuff installed.
[07:24] <UbuntuJeff> I have another cairo dock question if thats okay, when you have a stack on it and your scrolling over the stack it shows parts of the folders around it there names, like faded is there a way to turn that off? its making it hard for me to see what I am clicking on.
[07:24] <excalq-home> simple question - does an ubuntu install customise itself to the computer it's being installed on? i.e. would installing it and swapping the disk to a diff. computer matter?
[07:24] <CogitoErgoSam> abu:  the link in /usr/bin should be to the binary itself, not the folder
[07:24] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: do you get any tip as to what to do next?
[07:24] <_Zappy__> Thanks ZykoticK9 ... I hoped it to be easier
[07:24] <DanaG> excalq-home: aside from ending up with eth0, eth1, eth2, eth10 (depending on mac address), about the only other issue is video drivers.
[07:24] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 yes i show you mom
[07:25] <DanaG> ATI and NV binary drivers trample on the open-source drivers for everything else.
[07:25] <excalq-home> DanaG: ok thanks
[07:25] <PsynoKhi0> it STILL sound weird :P
[07:25] <PsynoKhi0> sounds*
[07:25] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: please no URL I can't use them
[07:26] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 no url? can i send u pictures in irc?
[07:26] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: if you get any direction on how to solve the broken package, just do as the message says :P
[07:26] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: I supposed it involves apt-get or dpkg
[07:26] <datroubler> the dialog told me to look after damaged packages
[07:26] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 and id did it
[07:26] <AbuMaia> CogitoErgoSam: still nogo
[07:26] <ZykoticK9> datroubler, if you have broken packages try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[07:27] <phoenix_srv> datroubler: you mean look for?
[07:27] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 the two damages packages: fglrx-amdcccle and fglrx-kernel-source
[07:27] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 es look for
[07:27] <datroubler> y
[07:27] <ftab> YankDownUnder, sorry grub2 was not installed after installing that I got it fixed, but Now I have another problem
[07:27] <FloodBot4> datroubler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:27] <ldez> All: Having a strange problem where I go to a site with an embedded YouTube video, it shows the video, ready to be started, all buttons appear fine.. but I get no response when hitting the play button... Works fine if I pull up YouTube.com and search the name of the video.. seems just to be an issue with YouTube when embedded in a different site.... other embedded flash player works fine, only have noticed the issue with YouTube specifically... an
[07:27] <CogitoErgoSam> Abumaia:  What's the output of "ls -l /usr/bin/<nameofyourlink>"
[07:27] <ZykoticK9> ldez, 64bit?
[07:27] <PsynoKhi0> datroubler: sorry gtg to work, hope someone else will be able to help you >.<
[07:27] <PsynoKhi0> later peeps
[07:27] <ldez> ZykoticK9: yes
[07:27] <datroubler> PsynoKhi0 ok thanks
[07:28] <ftab> I am using Dual monitors, before it was working well, and one window would stretch into one monitor only
[07:28] <AbuMaia> CogitoErgoSam: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2010-05-04 00:25 /usr/bin/boinc -> /home/abumaia/BOINC/boinc
[07:28] <ldez> ZykoticK9: Just got done upgrading to 10.04 and was hoping that would help...
[07:28] <MellowDude> hi im getting error on a windows hd mount error driver already mounted
[07:28] <MellowDude> but its not
[07:28] <ZykoticK9> ldez, if you're using the flash from repo (which is 32bit) then see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/clicking-in-flash-not-working to correct clicking issue
[07:28] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, Check this: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=208427
[07:29] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Oyo boyo - wassup...
[07:29] <MellowDude> and when i do the Disk Utility it says its uses it as a ext4 swap
[07:29] <ftab> but now after maximizing it it would stretch across both the monitors
[07:29] <ldez> ZykoticK9: Awesome thanks bro, seems to describe my problem perfectly.. I'll check this out
[07:29] <CogitoErgoSam> Abumaia:  and /home/abumaia/BOINC/boinc is the binary?
[07:29] <MellowDude> but i didnt give it permission to how i fix it
[07:29] <AbuMaia> CogitoErgoSam: yes
[07:29] <ftab> YankDownUnder, but now after maximizing it it would stretch across both the monitors
[07:29] <arand> datroubler: so if you run "aptitude install -f" what does it suggest?
[07:30] <YankDownUnder> ftab, Um...hmm...sounds like you have to muck with yer xinerama/xorg settings matey
[07:31] <datroubler> arand: Aktueller Status: 0 kaputt [-2].
[07:31] <datroubler> arand do you understand this
[07:31] <CogitoErgoSam> YankDownUnder:  So, since he had to reinstall grub to get it to work, do I get that beer back from ya?   Dang...(ah, well, same in Fedora, Mandriva, Gentoo, CentOS as well)
[07:34] <CogitoErgoSam> hehe I'mma send you a PM about beer anyway so we don't clog it up
[07:34] <hanz> exit
[07:34] <YankDownUnder> CogitoErgoSam, 15 is more than 6.7%
[07:34] <songer> hello
[07:35] <songer> how can i remove firefox?
[07:35] <phoenix_srv> songer: in the terminal, type: sudo apt-get remove firefox
[07:35] <CogitoErgoSam> Songer:  A number of ways, from both the command line or from gui applications.
[07:35] <nomad77> songer: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox to remove its configs
[07:36] <soreau> what is the option to show icons in system>administration?
[07:36] <CogitoErgoSam> songer:  those command line options will be the quickest though
[07:36] <ururus> CogitoErgoSam: how do we change permissions of a file the command?
[07:36] <ururus> i forgot long time not using linux
[07:36] <songer> i need to remove everiting
[07:36]  * YankDownUnder thinks maybe apt-get remove firefox && apt-get install microsoft-internet-exploder might work...
[07:36] <phoenix_srv> ururus: chmod 755 filename
[07:36] <CogitoErgoSam> ururus:  chmod
[07:37] <arand> datroubler: If you look in those directories /usr/lib/fglrx and /usr/share/ati what is in there?
[07:37] <ururus> oh yeah remember now
[07:37] <phoenix_srv> obviously substituting the values for whatever octal values you like :P
[07:37] <ururus> or chmod +x filename
[07:37] <ururus> :)
[07:37] <_Zappy__> Trying to install subversion, but I get the following error:
[07:37] <CogitoErgoSam> ururus:  The numbers use octal representation, but you can use the letters quickly too (ie x for execute, r for read, w for write)
[07:37] <_Zappy__> Couldn't find package libxvidcore4-dev
[07:37] <phoenix_srv> Surion: its in the gconf editor somewhere
[07:37] <phoenix_srv> im just looking it up for you now
[07:37] <_Zappy__> How can I fix that ?
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> soreau, i believe you could use "gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons --type boolean true" just use the path if you want to use gconf-editor
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, ok, tried the backup trick...lost a bunch of errors in the errors file, got a whole bunch of new errors, and I'm still getting that exit status 256 on startup
[07:39] <ururus> CogitoErgoSam: setting up dsl on ubuntu is fairly easy right? we dont need so much scripts like ppp0 dial up stuff?
[07:39] <phoenix_srv> ZykoticK9: beat me too it as well P
[07:39] <phoenix_srv> :P *
[07:39] <CogitoErgoSam> _Zappy_:  I'm assuming you're trying to install video codecs?  Easiest way is to just do the whole restricted extras package from the command line or software center
[07:39] <songer> CogitoErgoSam,  i already know but I can; with fire fox
[07:39] <lrc03> haahhhhaaa
[07:39] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, Have you tried finding out what the "exit status" error means via Google or such?
[07:39] <datroubler> arand in /fgrlx: libglx.so.xlibmesa and in /ati http://www.abload.de/img/atizwm6.png
[07:39] <songer> CogitoErgoSam,  thanks
[07:40] <_Zappy__> Thanks CogitoErgoSam I'll try that
[07:40] <CogitoErgoSam> _Zappy_:  From the command line its "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras", or just search the Software Center for "Ubuntu Restricted Extras"
[07:40] <lrc03> marssssssssss
[07:40] <lrc03> aab g
[07:40] <lrc03> kp
[07:40] <songer> nomad77, says Building dependency tree
[07:40] <lrc03> kpp
[07:40] <lrc03> iohiui
[07:40] <ururus> is ./configure; make; make install or is it | <--
[07:40] <CogitoErgoSam> _Zappy_:  And obviously if you're using a different flavor of ubuntu like kubuntu that'd be kubuntu-restricted-extras or whatever
[07:41] <Geoffrey2> YankDownUnder, I've tried, problem is information overload, I get 30 different possible explanations, covering five different versions of ubuntu..figuring out which applies to me, that's the fun part
[07:41] <ururus> tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[07:41] <nomad77> ururus: generally but read any install/readme files
[07:41] <_Zappy__> CogitoErgoSam, Just trying to install subversion
[07:42] <ururus> nomad77: what about dsl setup in ubuntu fairly easy or need ppp0 dial up type scripts ?
[07:42] <CogitoErgoSam> ururus:  What do you mean installing dsl?  If your router/modem is already set up, ubuntu should automatically detect and set up the connection
[07:42] <ururus> nomad77: or it just asks to put my localhost IP?
[07:42] <nomad77> ururus: should be auto,uses dhclient
[07:43] <songer> nomad77,  Building dependency tree , Package firefox is not installed, so not removed
[07:43] <G-man> what is the best type of file system to use with a fresh install of Ubuntu the latest distro
[07:43] <G-man> ?
[07:43] <YankDownUnder> Geoffrey2, Well, the niggly stuff is what makes it all the more fun as a puzzle...as long as you can boot and use, it's all good...but it is kinda strange that...could be from a nonexistent program trying to startup via the init scdripts or in your startup....
[07:43] <nope> G-man: for what use?
[07:43] <nomad77> songer: then youre good
[07:43] <__dantheman> my vote goes to ext3 or 4
[07:43] <G-man> web browsing, video stream, and mp3's
[07:43] <nope> ext4 works nice
[07:43] <nope> desktop then
[07:43] <DanaG> hmm, how's butterfs?
[07:43] <DanaG> btrfs.
[07:43] <CogitoErgoSam> G-man:  The current newest fs is ext4
[07:43] <nope> I run ext4 here
[07:43] <G-man> desktop
[07:44] <red2kic> G-man: Whatever suit you well. ext4 is for me. I like new stuffs. :)
[07:44] <__dantheman> < ext4, too
[07:44] <nope> DanaG: I wouldnt use btrfs in production
[07:44] <DanaG> icantbelieveitsnotbtr
[07:44] <CogitoErgoSam> G-man:  Well, newest commonly used one for personal use; not gonna get into server / data warehouse kinds of situations
[07:44] <nope> but for testing, sure
[07:44] <nomad77> production i'd use ext3 myself
[07:44] <songer> but firefox still there, nomad77
[07:44] <G-man> should i make the hard drive partitioned or no?
[07:44]  * YankDownUnder prefers ReiserFS...the professional choice of murder suspects! :)
[07:44] <CogitoErgoSam> G-man:  Planning on dual booting?
[07:44] <nope> G-man: if you partition it properly, a reinstall would be a lot easier
[07:44] <nomad77> songer: you installed firefox,how?
[07:45] <ldez> YankDownUnder: hahahahaha
[07:45] <G-man> G-man this is on another computer im looking at it right now
[07:45] <nope> YankDownUnder: I`m probably gonna get stoned here, but I actually prefer ZFS :)
[07:45] <arand> datroubler: hmm, if you run apt-get check, does it indicate which packages are broken?
[07:45] <G-man> i popped in the Gparted live cd
[07:45] <CogitoErgoSam> YankDownUnder:  Although not technically FOSS, Truecrypt is a nice choice for the sensitive stuff regardless of file system :)
[07:45] <Kitar|st> http://www.getfreexboxlive.net/?i=2363 did anyone try his viral thing where you haveto invite 5 people to get 1600 microsoft points ? (no need to register or anything)
[07:45] <Kitar|st> oops wrong window
[07:45] <FloodBot4> Kitar|st: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <Kitar|st> sorry
[07:45] <G-man> just goint to choose what file system to use
[07:45] <soreau> ZykoticK9: Yes, that was it. thanks
[07:45] <Kitar|st> hehe
[07:45] <ZykoticK9> soreau, glad to help
[07:45] <G-man> i don't really know much about ubuntu , so one partition should be fine?
[07:46] <YankDownUnder> nope, ZFS ain't all that bad mate...unless you don't like the letter Z...
[07:46] <ururus> CogitoErgoSam: i havent used linux for a while
[07:46] <songer> when i installed ubuntu came with firefox and i update to namoroka
[07:46] <G-man> its just for web browsing music/ videos
[07:46] <ururus> CogitoErgoSam: just trying to remember things i forgot
[07:46] <pinoyskull> broadcom wireless is not loading properly or has a bug in lucid, what's the workaround
[07:46] <songer> Nom-,
[07:46] <songer> nomad77,
[07:46] <nope> YankDownUnder: only issue I have with zfs, is that I have to use solaris or freebsd :)
[07:46] <ururus> CogitoErgoSam: i use to have to make a ppp0 script and all that before using dsl back in late 90's
[07:46] <ururus> :)
[07:46] <red2kic> Kitar|st: You're lying. You're spamming. :\
[07:46] <nope> could use debian with bsd kernel
[07:46] <nope> but nah
[07:47] <YankDownUnder> nope, Um...what's wrong with Solaris or FreeBSD? (Looks around to see if Bill Gates is looking) - mate, they're great!
[07:47] <nomad77> songer: was it a .deb?
[07:47] <phoenix_srv> one more question, for whoever's able to answer it
[07:47] <datroubler> arand no but this can perhaps help: http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=damagelmms.png
[07:47] <phoenix_srv> why is the grub in ubuntu 10.04 so slow?
[07:47] <CogitoErgoSam> ururus:  Nothin to apologize for, I got nothin' but respect for peeps who do all their research ahead of time
[07:47] <nope> YankDownUnder: I know, but I`m more comfortable with linux :
[07:47] <songer> with a sources
[07:47] <nope> )
[07:47] <Loshki> nope: do people really do that? (use debian with bsd kernel)
[07:47] <phoenix_srv> like, it hangs for at least 10 seconds before booting into windows
[07:47] <maco> Loshki: yes
[07:47] <maco> Loshki: debian even lists it on their site
[07:47] <maco> Loshki: debian/hurd as well
[07:47] <YankDownUnder> nope, I'm more comfy with OS/2, but hey, we're all in the same boat! :)
[07:48] <nope> hehehe
[07:48] <songer> i add a o souces  then i did update
[07:48] <Loshki> maco: amazing. Any idea why?
[07:48] <nomad77> songer: then cd to the folder try sudo make uninstall
[07:48] <CogitoErgoSam> phoenix_srv:  Are you talking about booting up the first time after installing 10.04, or is this slow-down happening every time
[07:48] <nope> OS2 warp, those were the days
[07:48] <maco> Loshki: fun?
[07:48] <phoenix_srv> every time, CogitoErgoSam
[07:48] <Loshki> maco: oh, right. Fair enough...
[07:48] <G-man> ext4 for the new ubuntu that is downloadable via ubuntu website?
[07:49] <songer> if i tiped in terminal firefox open forefox
[07:49] <NerdsFone> is there a way to get grub to install correctly on a macbook?
[07:49] <CogitoErgoSam> G-man:  Its included in the distro
[07:49] <nomad77> songer try synaptic>search>complete removal then
[07:49] <YankDownUnder> NerdsFone, grub2
[07:49] <Loshki> G-man: yes, ext4 by default, but you can choose ext3, and I do, except perhaps on a laptop...
[07:49] <stanman246> hi in here. I'm running 9.10 on my HP laptop (production) anyone running into bugs upgrading to 10.04 LTS?
[07:49]  * YankDownUnder is going for coffee cuz drugs cost way too much...
[07:49] <NerdsFone> lucid doesnt use grub2 does it?
[07:50] <stanman246> or should I wait...
[07:50] <maco> NerdsFone: yes it does
[07:50] <nope> I got my laptop running 10.04 this weekend
[07:50] <G-man> what is better ext 4 or ext 3 for music/video/mp3's
[07:50] <nope> damn it boots quick
[07:50] <ZykoticK9> NerdsFone, grub2 is default in fresh karmic/lucid installs
[07:50] <CogitoErgoSam> G-man:  It is enabled by the package "e2fslibs" which is part of the normal install
[07:50] <phoenix_srv> NerdsFone: it does, it uses grub version 1.97 i believe, which is grub 2
[07:50] <phoenix_srv> go figure :P
[07:50] <NerdsFone> all my boot options besides ubuntu are broken
[07:50] <G-man> I'm running Gparted
[07:50] <stanman246> nope: no probs upgrading?
[07:50] <G-man> saving a dying machine
[07:50] <G-man> :D
[07:50] <nope> I did a complete reinstall
[07:50] <phoenix_srv> NerdsFone: i have the same problem, due to me choosing to install it to all partitions
[07:50] <phoenix_srv> stanman246: no problems aside from my own silliness, no
[07:51] <Loshki> phoenix_srv: a masterpiece of version numbering, to be sure...
[07:51] <shelan> hi what is the package name for sun-java6-jdk ?
[07:51] <songer> nomad77,  all greens?
[07:51] <khussein78> i cannot access ubuntu one, i can access the website
[07:51] <phoenix_srv> Loshki: agreed ;)
[07:51] <nope> shelan: have you enabled partner repo?
[07:51] <NerdsFone> Phoenix_srv it won't let me use just a partition.
[07:51] <ZykoticK9> khussein78, you might want to ask in #ubuntuone
[07:51] <nope> sun java has been moved
[07:51] <CogitoErgoSam> G-man:  Realistically speaking most users aren't going to notice any difference between ext3 or 4, you're not going to be dealing with massive files and fs trees
[07:51] <shelan> nope
[07:51] <khussein78> i am behind juniper firewall, which ports should be opened
[07:51] <nomad77> songer: then manually remove the files
[07:51] <phoenix_srv> NerdsFone: you don't want to, you only want to use the device (such as /dev/sda) when upgrading
[07:52] <phoenix_srv> no partitions at all
[07:52] <Loshki> G-man: fewer problems with ext3, and more recovery options if you do...
[07:52] <NerdsFone> but I have Windows and OSX on the same harddrive.
[07:52] <ZykoticK9> shelan, see blue not on top of http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java
[07:52] <shelan> nope :i will enable it
[07:52] <progesterone> Question: how can I make Yakuake to be able to use left/right/up/down key in insert mode?
[07:52] <stanman246> I'll just do the upgrade... fingers crossed....
[07:52] <phoenix_srv> NerdsFone: that's fine, the boot loader will select them still properly
[07:52] <Austin116> Hey Guys, Retard here. I need some help.
[07:52] <Austin116> becasue I am stupid.
[07:53] <NerdsFone> with refit too?
[07:53] <phoenix_srv> just backup before you do, NerdsFone
[07:53] <shelan> ZykoticK9>thank you very much
[07:53] <Austin116> I formatted my Ubuntu drive... can't boot into windows.
[07:53] <phoenix_srv> and by refit, do you mean resize partition?
[07:53] <phoenix_srv> Austin116: you'll need your windows cd
[07:53] <CogitoErgoSam> G-man:  The main drive behind ext4 was to provide huge server farms to address volumes up to 1 exabyte in size and files up to 16 tb
[07:53] <Austin116> Yeah?
[07:53] <phoenix_srv> then boot into the recovery console
[07:53] <Austin116> run a repair?
[07:53] <phoenix_srv> and type:
[07:53] <phoenix_srv> fixboot
[07:53] <phoenix_srv> fixmbr
[07:53] <FloodBot4> phoenix_srv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:53] <maco> PhilMather: rEFIt is a tool for messing with efi based systems
[07:53] <phoenix_srv> or if you're on vista or windows 7, use the recovery tools
[07:53] <Austin116> Oh thanks.
[07:54] <phoenix_srv> no worries
[07:54] <stanman246> can i work while dist upgrading?
[07:54] <arand> datroubler: hmm, I'm not sure but what you could try is to temopraily rename those folders (i.e. disable them) and see if apt manges to finish then
[07:54] <maco> PhilMather: er not you
[07:54] <Austin116> I really like Ubuntu, I just used actiive killdisk on the WRONG drive.
[07:54] <phoenix_srv> stanman246: yes, you can
[07:54] <maco> phoenix_srv:  rEFIt is a tool for messing with efi based systems
[07:54] <Austin116> I set it and walked off.
[07:54] <phoenix_srv> may encounter a few funnies though
[07:54] <m0ns00n> Hello
[07:54] <Austin116> came back and was Super sad. :P
[07:54] <stanman246> phoenix_srv: funnies?
[07:54] <Loshki> stanman246: because upgrading isn't a big enough gamble all by itself? You can, but don't...
[07:54] <phoenix_srv> maco: which of my questions was that related to?
[07:54] <m0ns00n> More people experiencing weird graphics problems with the nvidia drivers in Lucid Lynx?
[07:54] <m0ns00n> Blender is now a blurred smudge
[07:54] <datroubler> arand i cant rename them
[07:55] <phoenix_srv> stanman246: as in, packages get uninstalled and upgraded while your working
[07:55] <m0ns00n> Window dragging is super slow.
[07:55] <Austin116> I owe you a drink, Phoenix. Especially since it was something simple :P
[07:55] <maco> phoenix_srv: <phoenix_srv> and by refit, do you mean resize partition?
[07:55] <arand> datroubler: Are you currently using the ati drivers there?
[07:55] <phoenix_srv> so programs can go haywire
[07:55] <Loshki> stanman246: and make a backup first in case it all goes horribly wrong...
[07:55] <phoenix_srv> ah
[07:55] <phoenix_srv> ok, thanks maco
[07:55] <datroubler> arand no the open source one
[07:55] <phoenix_srv> Austin116: i'll keep that in mind ;) glad to help
[07:55] <stanman246> I already did and will stop working untill i see the nice purple logon screen, thanks all
[07:55] <DanaG> argh, why doesn't ubuntu offer a UEFI-bootable installer?
[07:55] <ldez> stanman246: while upgrading i lost a couple icons (firefox).. that was kind of funny... but i didnt lose any functionality while trying to upgrade.... firefox and thunderbird both seemed like they defaulted to original settings but it wasnt detrimental.. just had to recheck an option or two on thunderbird and things were working normally very easily.
[07:56] <ldez> probably no more funnies than you would experience immediately after upgrading...... or so i would assume
[07:56] <arand> datroubler: "sudo mv /usr/lib/fglrx /usr/lib/fglrx_BAK && sudo mv /usr/share/ati /usr/share/ati_BAK"
[07:56] <stanman246> will be back after the upgrade!
[07:57] <Austin116> wish me luck :P Im off. Also, Active killdisk, AWesome program. its how I managed to get online. Tell your friends. :P
[07:57] <arand> datroubler: After that run "sudo aptitude -f install" again.
[07:57] <phoenix_srv> ldez: my immediately after upgrading scenario was fine, oddly
[07:57] <cc4> hi in what section has Option "UseFastTLS" "2" have to be?
[07:58] <cc4> on xorg.conf? if I just put it at the end I have a prob at reboot
[07:58] <G-man> okay, just goin to use ext 4
[07:58] <datroubler> arand that sholud i do know?
[07:58] <Ritlee> OK so here be my system, Dell Mini 9 running Lucid; here be the problem, when i try to resume from suspend/hybernation the system appears to not respond,  I installed on saturday and was able to resume from suspend then, never had hybernation working and have given up on that 'till i have a larger HD, i'd like to know what i can do to help resolve this issue
[07:59] <ldez> phoenix_srv: mine was groovy also except for having to uncheck thunderbird SMTP authentication and my minimize/maximize/close buttons being on the left side of every title bar.... fixed after i went to System->Appearance and did nothing, lol
[07:59] <jwmcgregor> anyone there
[07:59] <Loshki> G-man: use ext3 instead, ok?
[07:59] <ldez> phoenix_srv: just was offering my experience to other guy who was debating trying to work while upgrading though
[08:00] <maco> jwmcgregor: nobody here but us chickens
[08:00] <phoenix_srv> ldez: yeah, i understand, was just sharing that mine was fine for whoever wanted to know :)
[08:00] <phoenix_srv> it surprised me too :P
[08:00] <G-man> why ext 3?
[08:00] <CogitoErgoSam> G-man:  ext4 is quicker to run file system checks on too
[08:00] <G-man> loshki:
[08:00] <Loshki> jwmcgregor: ask a question...
[08:00] <jwmcgregor> I have a  prob with 10.4 wondering if anyone able to advise
[08:00] <maco> jwmcgregor: state the problem and if someone can answer they will
[08:00] <ldez> !ask
[08:01] <wildbat_x64> !details | jwmcgregor
[08:01] <Loshki> G-man: because ext3 has fewer problems and better support...
[08:02] <jwmcgregor> In 10.4 (just upgraded) I can't get it to save  the visual effects - extra and not sure if there is a config file I can manually set
[08:02] <jwmcgregor> every time I log out it defaults back to basic and I lose stuff
[08:04] <ldez> jwmcgregor: what kind of visual effects? as in like the shadowing and movement effects when minimizing/maximizing windows, or as in getting monitor settings (resolution, etc) to save properly?
[08:05]  * UT8F Ryts
[08:05] <phoenix_srv> im off
[08:05] <phoenix_srv> catcha all later, and thanks for the helps
[08:06] <datroubler> arand i also have another problem: if i plug my earphones in but the sound on the speakers didn't mute
[08:06] <donri> The software center doesn't list my PPA for chromium in Lucid.
[08:06] <Mouzz> What is the easiest way to upgrade a 10.04 beta 2 installation to the full release version? (I have all 10.04 iso's available here)
[08:06] <Flannel> Mouzz: Just regular daily updates
[08:06] <arand> datroubler: When you ran aptitude, what did it say?
[08:07] <jwmcgregor> System -> Preferences ->Appearance Preferences  - Visual Effects - Extra  * allows you to set but it does not save defaults back to None after logout / login
[08:07] <new2this> Hey guys, what is encrypted LVM for?
[08:07] <arand> datroubler: For the sound I have no idea.
[08:07] <ubuntuaddicted> hi does someone know if i can debootstrap a system from cd??
[08:07] <datroubler> arand do you mean sudo aptitude?
[08:07] <new2this> I mean the differences between one and encrypted's
[08:07] <ha1331> This might be silly question, but can I use linux sockets to enable communications between postresql server and client if I have infiniband nic's and switch?
[08:07] <CogitoErgoSam> jwmcgregor:  What video card are you using, and are the appropriate drivers needed or installed under System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[08:08] <arand> datroubler: "sudo aptitude -f install"
[08:08] <new2this> Crap too many newbs like me :D
[08:08] <datroubler> arand http://paste.ubuntu.com/427463/
[08:09] <ldez> jwmcgregor: CogitoErgoSam read my mind.. the package used for the visual effects is "compiz" and sometimes requires the "Restricted" drivers to be installed........ also.. any relation to Allan McGregor? lol, didnt think so, but man would that be awesome
[08:09] <jwmcgregor> AMD 3D graphics card on board - using it from ubuntu 8 -> 10.4
[08:09] <livingdaylight> I have problem with Ubuntu
[08:09] <arand> datroubler: THat seems to have taken care of the broken packages there.
[08:10] <livingdaylight> all the xpansion and xit buttons are on the left like Apple, they used to be on the right, anyway to restore this?
[08:10] <austin116> Phoenix? Thanks again.
[08:10] <datroubler> arand ok so that should i do?
[08:10] <ZykoticK9> !controls | livingdaylight
[08:10] <G-man> why wont this hp auto boot from disc
[08:10] <ubuntuaddicted> livingdaylight ->system->settings
[08:10] <ldez> livingdaylight: I had this same problem, if you go in to System-Preferences-Appearance, change the theme, then change back, and it should be perfectly fine.
[08:10] <G-man> keeps telling me Press a key to reboot
[08:11] <ubuntuaddicted> dunno how its sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssspelled in english
[08:11] <G-man> when i try to Boot from cd
[08:11] <ubuntuaddicted> oh sry
[08:11] <livingdaylight> thanks people
[08:12] <CogitoErgoSam> jwmcgregor:  Have you used that card successfully with the extra visuals before?  Are you sure its compatible?
[08:12]  * man8 hola , hi all
[08:13] <ubuntuaddicted> how to debootstrap from cd??
[08:13] <arand> datroubler: So you were trying to install the fglrx driver from the beginning? (sorry I came in a bit late)
[08:14] <joaopinto> ubuntuaddicted, I am not sure debootstrap is included on the live cd
[08:14] <Chripher> hello
[08:14] <Chripher> how do I flush dns
[08:15] <Chripher> I do not nscd!?
[08:15] <ubuntuaddicted> joapinto no i have a running system and installed debootstrap
[08:15] <Chripher> I can't find ncsd
[08:15] <ubuntuaddicted> joapinto but the proxy dont let me get to archive url
[08:15] <ubuntuaddicted> so i want to debootstrap from cd
[08:16] <jwmcgregor> yes definately compatable
[08:17] <Ritlee> OK so here be my system, Dell Mini 9 running Lucid; here be the problem, when i try to resume from suspend/hybernation the system appears to not respond,  I installed on saturday and was able to resume from suspend then, never had hybernation working and have given up on that 'till i have a larger HD, i'd like to know what i can do to help resolve this issue
[08:17] <ubuntuaddicted> any other possibility to get a minimal system installed in /var/chroot?
[08:18] <CogitoErgoSam> jwmcgregor:  Go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers and see if any proprietary ones show up that need enabled
[08:18] <daverto> Hi, I need some help, I have a iPod Touch 2nd Gen and I am trying to add music using Rhythmbox provided in 10.04 Lucid. My iPod mounts fine and everything but when I try to add a song to my iPod it gives: "Error while getting peer-to-peer dbus connection: The name :1.65 was not provided by any .service files"
[08:18] <FardadJalili> !recover > FardadJalili
[08:18] <G-man> how can i get this pc to boot from disc
[08:18] <G-man> it keeps prompting me to press a key to reboot
[08:18] <Chripher> how do I flush dns without nscd
[08:19] <ZykoticK9> FardadJalili, to see a message from ubottu, without it showing up in channel, you can use "/msg ubottu !factoid"
[08:19] <ldez> daverto: personally, I didn't have so much luck using Rythmnbox to manage my iPod.. I had more luck with gtkpod which you can find in the Ubuntu Software Center
[08:19] <daverto> ldez: I will give it a go, grabbing it now
[08:20] <datroubler> arand ok i try
[08:21] <daverto> ldez: gtkpod is having no success either.
[08:21] <daverto> it won't even load the ipod
[08:22] <maco> daverto: have you used it with itunes at least once before?
[08:22] <ubuntuaddicted> flushing dns should work through networking restart
[08:22] <datroubler> arand it seems that it works
[08:22] <maco> daverto: the db has to be set up for the first time with actual itunes
[08:22] <ubuntuaddicted> service networking restart
[08:22] <CogitoErgoSam> G-man:  Try changing the boot order in your BIOS to put the CD/DVD first
[08:23] <datroubler> arand i have to restart and if it works you are my new god and i wull praise you :D
[08:23] <daverto> maco: yes, I even sent over a couple albums to make sure the DB was built, should I try again?
[08:23] <G-man> yeah, i just restored the defaults, then told it to load dvd rom first, and voila!
[08:23] <G-man> yaay
[08:23] <jwmcgregor> ATI/AMD propietry FGLRX graphics driver installed and working
[08:23] <maco> daverto: nah it only has to be done once
[08:23] <zetheroo> do XD card readers not work in Ubuntu?
[08:23] <maco> daverto: support for ipod touches is pretty new. can you please report a bug about it? i know who to poke to have a look at it
[08:23] <daverto> Sure.
[08:23] <G-man> tired of the viruses the kids keep downloading, time for the  kids to break free of the "system", be open-minded and learn a real OS
[08:24] <maco> daverto: for starters, id say report it on libifuse
[08:24] <nope> the ati driver that ubuntu bundles is not good
[08:24] <daverto> I had it working on this iPod when it was running the 4.0 beta1
[08:24] <G-man> D: they will thanks me when they get older :D
[08:24] <nope> dont support desktop effects
[08:24] <daverto> but I downgraded and it does not work now
[08:24] <maco> daverto: er, sorry, ifuse
[08:24] <nope> not that I miss it though
[08:24] <FardadJalili> ZykoticK9: tnx
[08:24] <maco> daverto: 4.0?
[08:24] <willemb> Greetings
[08:25] <willemb> I just read the linuxjournal.com article on ubuntu cloud services.  It is kindof the opposite of what I want.
[08:25] <daverto> maco: yeah, I had the 4.0 beta1, was using it as a review copy, worked perfectly with Rythymbox, but when I moved back down to 3.1.3 it is not working
[08:25] <kraut> moin
[08:25] <maco> daverto: 4.0 of what? i dont know what youre talking about
[08:25] <willemb> I don't want to run ubuntu on amazon's cloud, I want to build my own cloud.  Can I do that yet with eucalyptus?
[08:25] <daverto> maco: the iPod touch firmware.
[08:25] <maco> daverto: oh!
[08:25] <daverto> maco: I should have been clearer.
[08:26] <yohannbzh> Hi! I have some "[drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung" errors that make my screen crashing. Is there something that I can do?
[08:26] <rww> willemb: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private
[08:26] <cjae> So if I want a package from this site namelt frostire and I add the repo and the gpg key, it tells me that I have many uppdates to install, but I only want frostwire not everything there, how I tell I not to update entire repo?
[08:26] <nope> willemb: I seem to remember that you could create your own cloud in 9.10
[08:26] <maco> daverto: yeah, definitely report that. working with all currently available versions would be a /good/ thing
[08:26] <CogitoErgoSam> yohannbzh:  I take it you have intel integrated graphics?
[08:26] <blinkiz> I need some help. Have a new installation of 10.04 desktop and can not get apache2 directory index (+Indexes) to work. I really do not know what is wrong.
[08:26] <cjae> So if I want a package from this site http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/25 namely frostire and I add the repo and the gpg key, it tells me that I have many uppdates to install, but I only want frostwire not everything there, how I tell I not to update entire repo?
[08:27] <willemb> rww:  And I can create what is esentially a virtual machine on this cloud?
[08:27] <cjae> Sorry for typo
[08:27] <yohannbzh> CogitoErgoSam: yes
[08:27] <EmilioTucci> Hi all
[08:27] <rww> willemb: I don't know, I haven't looked at it much.
[08:27] <maco> cjae: you say "sudo apt-get install frostwire" then you remove the repos from your /etc/apt/sources.list and run "sudo apt-get update" again so that it forgets about that repo
[08:27] <maco> rww: you haz pm
[08:27] <rww> willemb: You'd probably want to ask question about it directly.
[08:28] <blinkiz> I need some help. Have a new installation of 10.04 desktop and can not get apache2 directory index (+Indexes) to work. I really do not know what is wrong. 000-default: http://blinkiz.pastebin.com/tW3xt13P. Error in firefox: http://blinkiz.pastebin.com/V0C85vRe
[08:28] <rww> willemb: ( https://forms.canonical.com/cloud/ )
[08:28] <CogitoErgoSam> yohannbzh:  At the grub menu, select the kernel/OS you are trying to use and instead of hitting enter, press E
[08:28] <ComradeHaz`> He HAS PM, not 'haz, you muppet
[08:28] <ComradeHaz`> learn to spell
[08:28] <rww> ComradeHaz`: Be nice :(
[08:28] <maco> ComradeHaz`: itd actually be "have"....
[08:28] <EmilioTucci> I have just upgraded my Ubuntu 8.10 to Karmik, and mysql server does not work, during the installation it says that the package mysql-server-5.1 had dependencies problems and could not be configured ¿? Any clue? The server was working pretty goog in my old 8.10. Thanks
[08:28] <cjae> maco: that seems to me to defeat the purpose of the repo
[08:28] <jwmcgregor> would the package for combiz restricted drivers be ubuntu restricted extras in Synaptic
[08:28] <ComradeHaz`> Indeed
[08:28] <yohannbzh> CogitoErgoSam: Ok. What will it do?
[08:28] <willemb> rww:  thanks for pointing me there
[08:28] <maco> cjae: if you only want to install one package from the repo...
[08:28] <datroubler> arand it works!!!!!!
[08:28] <CogitoErgoSam> yohannbzh:  This will show you the full boot command.  At the end of the line that has "quiet" and "splash", try adding "i915.modeset=0"
[08:28] <datroubler> arand thanks a lot
[08:28] <arand_> datroubler: :D
[08:28] <maco> cjae: you could learn about pinning if you want to tell it that it should only pull updatess from that repo for a specific package
[08:29] <ComradeHaz`> WHY write 'haz' it just sounds stupid :/ (and highlights me! :D )
[08:29] <ubuntuaddicted> is it possible to debootstrap from a cd?
[08:29] <yohannbzh> CogitoErgoSam: ok
[08:29] <maco> cjae: man 5 apt_preferences
[08:29] <CogitoErgoSam> yohannbzh:  These are the commands that are passed to the kernel when it boots up.  make sure to add that i915 part without the quotes
[08:29] <maco> ComradeHaz`: why does it highlight you when i didnt type comrade before it or ` after it? your highlight rules are broken
[08:29] <CogitoErgoSam> yohannbzh:  If i915 is hanging and making you crash, that line might disable it and let you boot up normally
[08:29] <jwmcgregor> The only thing that is different is that previously the monitors were detected and they are coming up as unknown in 10.4
[08:30] <cjae> Cool thanks maco
[08:30] <yohannbzh> CogitoErgoSam: Ok. I'll try it. thx
[08:30] <ComradeHaz`> My highlight rules are perfect. My real nickname, even in 'real life' is Haz
[08:30] <CogitoErgoSam> yohannbzh:  I have to log for the night, but if that fixes your problem, you can save the changes by adding i915.modeset=0 to /etc/default/grub
[08:30] <masterkey> where is ? /etc/X11/xorg.conf  - nVidia  kernel -PAE :( updated
[08:30] <ComradeHaz`> and thus, that is what my friends usually address me as, given we are all 'Comrades'
[08:30] <masterkey> not configured driver
[08:30] <ComradeHaz`> Anyway :D
[08:31] <yohannbzh> CogitoErgoSam: Ok.
[08:31] <EmilioTucci> I have just upgraded my Ubuntu 8.10 to Karmik, and mysql server does not work, during the installation it says that the package mysql-server-5.1 had dependencies problems and could not be configured ¿? Any clue? The server was working pretty goog in my old 8.10. Thanks
[08:31] <CogitoErgoSam> yohannbzh:  /etc/default/grub has a line for setting those boot parameters where you can add the i915 one.  Once you add it, you need to run "update-grub"
[08:31]  * ComradeHaz` crawls back to his crappy database interrogation java program
[08:31] <CogitoErgoSam> yohannbzh:  This will generate the new config file that grub uses, and include that extra option to all the items on the grub list
[08:32] <yohannbzh> CogitoErgoSam: Ok. I know that.
[08:32] <yohannbzh> CogitoErgoSam: Thx
[08:32] <jwmcgregor> following on should I install libdecoration0-dev
[08:32] <FardadJalili> anyone know a way to recover files on the /tmp/ directory? ( I'm already trying !revocer )
[08:32] <ZykoticK9> EmilioTucci, see Release Notes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#MySQL%20upgrade
[08:32] <CogitoErgoSam> yohannbzh:  np, hope it works.  Gotta log.
[08:32] <denis12345> How do I install Ubuntu 10.04 if it is bigger than the max size of a CD (700 meg and Ubuntu is ~720meg?)
[08:32] <CogitoErgoSam> night all
[08:32] <masterkey> connect irc.vladislavovo.org
[08:32] <wizard_> denis12345: it should fit on the CD, try using the over burn
[08:33] <denis12345> wizard_: over burn?
[08:33] <wizard_> denis12345: most cd-r can be burned to have more than 700MB of data.
[08:33] <denis12345> wizard_: ah ok
[08:33] <wizard_> Also, the iso is under 700MB when I downlaoded it.
[08:34] <wizard_> -_-
[08:34] <jwmcgregor> can anyone else help with my compiz problem
[08:34] <wizard_> Where did you get yoru iso?
[08:34] <rww> denis12345: It's probably a unit display issue.   There where problems with BETA not fitting on a CD, but this was resolved before final.
[08:34] <EmilioTucci> ZykoticK9, so it's late for me? I had to remove the mysql-server and mysql-client before perfomring the upgrade?
[08:34] <denis12345> ZykotickK9: Yeah I downloaded the final
[08:35] <denis12345> rww, they changed to using MB instead of mb so 700MB doesn't fit on a disk designed for 700mb
[08:35] <ZykoticK9> EmilioTucci, i'm not really familiar with the issue - i just remember reading about it in the release notes, and thus sent them to you.  Good luck.
[08:35] <crdlb> denis12345: what's the filename?
[08:35] <rww> denis12345: Umm, no.
[08:35] <crdlb> denis12345: 'mb' would be millibits
[08:35] <EmilioTucci> this is madness
[08:35] <denis12345> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:36] <DingGGu> !lastest
[08:36] <DingGGu> ?
[08:36] <DingGGu> !version
[08:36] <edakiri> Is there any media player besides amarok which can let the user associate ratings with tracks?
[08:36] <progesterone> Question: Do I need to install cvs to checkout the project with cvs using Ubuntu?
[08:36] <edakiri> progesterone: yes
[08:37] <EmilioTucci> So nobody has MySQL server in Karmic?
[08:37] <ZykoticK9> denis12345, my amd64 image is 697MB
[08:37] <progesterone> edakiri Thanks
[08:37] <DingGGu> how can i upgrade ubuntu 10.04?
[08:37] <denis12345> hmm kk
[08:37] <DingGGu> i can't join ubuntu+1
[08:37] <edakiri> EmilioTucci: everyone running KDE4 has it whether they want it or not.
[08:37] <jwmcgregor> Is anyone able to help me with the installation issue I am experiencing
[08:37] <ZykoticK9> !upgrade | DingGGu
[08:37] <joaopinto> DingGGu, lucid support is here now
[08:37] <red2kic> DingGGu: There are no #ubuntu+1
[08:37] <progesterone> edakiri As I'm not hosting cvs server, I don't understand why I need to install it.
[08:37] <rww> DingGGu: #ubuntu+1 is currently closed. You would be forwarded to here automatically, except you're already in this channel so you get an error instead.
[08:37] <soreau> jwmcgregor: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz --replace' from your terminal to pastebin.org?
[08:37] <ZykoticK9> DingGGu, +1 is closed until the toolchain is ready for 10.10
[08:37] <DingGGu> oh thanks
[08:38] <denis12345> hmm kk
[08:38] <EmilioTucci> edakiri, I had mysql server 5.1 in my old 8.10,. I upgraded to Karmic following all the process, and suddenly I can not run mysql server anymore because during the installation there were some dependencies issues????
[08:38] <edakiri> progesterone: the package is both client and server
[08:38] <EmilioTucci> si I have the machine stopped here, no work
[08:38] <edakiri> EmilioTucci: I don't know.
[08:38] <EmilioTucci> just after following the upgrade process
[08:38] <ani> why i am getting problem to plau HD 1080p videos
[08:39] <BUGabundo_remote> red2kic: joaopinto MAUAUAUAU but I'm already on maverick :(
[08:39] <ejv> lesson: never upgrade a server with production services running...
[08:39] <joaopinto> BUGabundo_remote, :P
[08:39] <progesterone> edakiri Thank for explaining me.
[08:39] <ani> those r playing at like 3-4 fps
[08:39] <jwmcgregor> no output it looked like the screen did a refresh
[08:40] <ubuntuaddicted> someone knows a way to debootstrap from a live cd?
[08:40] <edakiri> EmilioTucci: you can see in /var/log whether there was trouble if you upgraded using 'aptitude'
[08:41] <ubuntuaddicted> or an alternative way?
[08:41] <EmilioTucci> edakiri, well, I upgraded with the UBuntu Upgrader
[08:41] <EmilioTucci> edakiri, everything works as a charm, except when in mysql server, then it shows that the package mysql-server 5.1 could not be configured due dependencies errors?
[08:41] <EmilioTucci> what dependencies errors? I am upgrading
[08:42] <ani> any solution for bad performance of 1080p videos on lucid
[08:42] <jwmcgregor> screen totally screwed now after compiz --replace
[08:43] <ani> ^^?
[08:43] <EmilioTucci> * Starting MySQL database server mysqld
[08:43] <EmilioTucci>    ...fail!
[08:43] <EmilioTucci> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[08:43] <EmilioTucci> dpkg: error al procesar mysql-server-5.1 (--configure):
[08:43] <EmilioTucci>  el subproceso script post-installation instalado devolvió el código de salida de error 1
[08:43] <FloodBot4> EmilioTucci: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <EmilioTucci> "the process script port-installation installed returned the error code 1"
[08:43] <soreau> jwmcgregor: The output is what may be interesting
[08:44] <psypher246> hi all, is anyone else having serious empathy issue wrt msn on lucid? since upgarding people cannot see me online yet i can se them but can't open chat windows
[08:45] <carmelo202> hi all
[08:45] <G-man> ubuntu or windows 7 ?
[08:45] <ani> 7?
[08:46] <ubuntuaddicted> who cares about windows
[08:46] <ubuntuaddicted> :d
[08:46] <ani> who not
[08:46]  * Reilithion highfives ubuntuaddicted
[08:46] <ZykoticK9> ani, what speed is your processor? and what graphics card are you using?
[08:46] <ubuntuaddicted> *)
[08:46] <ani> Graphics:  Card nVidia G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] X.Org 1.7.6 Res<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:47] <ani>            GLX Renderer GeForce 9400 GT/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 3.2.0 NVIDIA 195.36.15
[08:47] <wizard_> ani: a lot of cards cant play 1080p
[08:47] <ani> System:    Host ani-desktop Kernel 2.6.32-21-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[08:47] <Reilithion> I haven't had sound since I upgraded to 10.04
[08:47] <markatto> 9400 with vdpau should easily be able to handle medium-low bitrate 1080P h.264
[08:47] <ani> wizard i can play those vid in win very smoothly
[08:47] <EmilioTucci> Confirmed, if Upgrading to karmic, mysql does not isntall correctly
[08:48] <Reilithion> I've been through the Ubuntu sound troubleshooting guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting with no luck.  What else can I do?
[08:48] <wizard_> I keep having to hard reset after I try switching to a tty and back to gui, so beat that!
[08:48] <EmilioTucci> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/377268
[08:48] <EmilioTucci> A shame though
[08:48] <EmilioTucci> My system was working before
[08:48] <wizard_> ani: do you have the proper drivers installed?  Sometimes the wrong drivers will do that..
[08:48] <ani> Info:      Processes 148 Uptime 45 min Memory 437.8/1250.6MB Client Shell inxi 1.3.2
[08:48] <ani> thats all i got
[08:49] <markatto> ani: if you aren't using the proprietary nvidia driver, you won't be able to use vdpau
[08:49] <ani> but without it i can,t get any acclaration....
[08:49] <daverto> maco: I filed the report, it is at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifuse/+bug/574977
[08:50] <ani> GLX Version 3.2.0 NVIDIA 195.36.15 markatto.
[08:50] <markatto> ani: what video player are you using?
[08:51] <maco> daverto: thanks
[08:51] <NoReflex> hello! I'm having a problem with my USB modem (Huawei E220). It used to work in Jaunty and Karmic but in Lynx it asks me for a password. I tried entering the password for my GPRS connection (which I previously entered in the config as well) but it won't work
[08:51] <ani> markatto. i try all ..including vlc
[08:51] <daverto> maco: would love to see it fixed. I love ubuntu and am glad to see it grow, but now I have to hit the sack
[08:52] <slam-dunk> i have installed wireshark in ubuntu, but when I run it I do not have the option to capture my ethernet. If I run Wireshark as root I can capture my ethernet device, but am warned that running wireshark as root is dangerous (I know why). Is there anyway around this?
[08:52] <ani> in all rendermode of vlc
[08:52] <ubuntuaddicted> slam dunk strat as root
[08:52] <maco> slam-dunk: i think it has to be run as root
[08:52] <ubuntuaddicted> start
[08:52] <slam-dunk> maco - lol... then what is the point of the message? lol
[08:53] <JdGordon> has autofs broken for anyone else after upgrading from 9.10?
[08:53] <ubuntuaddicted> wireshark sets network card in promiscious mode..for that it needs root
[08:53] <JdGordon> my autofs smb mounts arnt working and I have no idea why
[08:53] <jwmcgregor> Hi back had to restart gnome still trying to resolve issue - unable to save when System ->preferences -> appearance Preferences -> Visual Effects - > Extra
[08:53] <markatto> ani: try mplayer from the commandline
[08:53] <maco> slam-dunk: if you manually set promiscuous yourslef you can probably start wireshark not as root
[08:53] <ani> i show a patch fix in bug report web site of ubuntu..but dont get idia how to use that
[08:53] <markatto> ani: mplayer -vo vdpau $VIDEONAME
[08:53] <ubuntuaddicted> maco is that possible??
[08:53] <ani> ok
[08:53] <maco> ubuntuaddicted: sure, either ifconfig or iwconfig (i forget which) can do it
[08:54] <jwmcgregor> does anyone know where the config is stored
[08:54] <slam-dunk> maco - promiscuous? I'm not trying to have wild sex here, I'm just trying to run Wireshark. :)
[08:54] <Reilithion> I bet it'll be ifconfig.  Isn't iwconfig for wireless interfaces?
[08:54] <NoReflex> I get a " stage1_prepare_done(): GSM modem connection failed: (32) Sending command failed: 'Resource temporarily unavailable'" in syslog...
[08:54] <maco> slam-dunk: its the mode where the wireless card picks up things that arent directed specifically to it
[08:55] <Reilithion> maco: Not just wireless cards.  Ethernet too.
[08:55] <markatto> ani: let me know if you see a line like "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device."
[08:55] <Reilithion> Only it won't work if you're connected to a switch.
[08:55] <maco> Reilithion: yeah guess so... ive never tried using wireshark for wired internet
[08:55] <slam-dunk> maco - how do I do that
[08:55] <Reilithion> maco: Probably because most sane people use switches these days.
[08:55] <ubuntuaddicted> maco ifconfig eth0 promisc but it needs root
[08:56] <ani> markatto installing mplayer
[08:56] <maco> ubuntuaddicted: psst tell slam-dunk that
[08:56] <ani> can vlc used for that?
[08:56] <ubuntuaddicted> slam dunk ifconfig eth0 promisc
[08:56] <ubuntuaddicted> :D
[08:56]  * man8 hasta luego si you later
[08:56] <markatto> ani: i'm pretty sure th VLC can output vdpau, but i'm not as familiar with it and it's hard for me to tell you which menu buttons to click
[08:57] <markatto> ani: this way we will find out if it's the driver or the player
[08:57] <App_> Hey , is the keyserver down?
[08:57] <ani> then iam instlaiing mplayer..but itsthake some time for my speed 9kbps
[08:57] <markatto> ani: ouch sorry you're stuck with a connection like that
[08:57] <slam-dunk> ubuntuaddicted - anything securitywise (negatively speaking) about this command I should be aware of? And do I have to run this on each startup for it to work, or is this a one time deal?
[08:58] <EmilioTucci> I uninstall completely mysql server, I install it again, and the same issue
[08:58] <maco> slam-dunk: once per boot
[08:58] <ubuntuaddicted> slam dunk its just one time...its just for sniffing purposes
[08:58] <arand> App_: Possibly, it tends to be flaky and it wouldn't surprise me now after release and all, you could always use another keyserver I guess
[08:58] <markatto> ani: it's like what, 24 megs? it might pull in ffmpeg too, but you probably have that already
[08:58] <ani> markatto humm..alternate r very high tariff
[08:58] <e-DIO-t> how about disappeared icons on gnome desktop? No, show icons is checked in gconftool
[08:59] <ani> and give less useg
[08:59] <slam-dunk> and the security question?
[08:59] <LeonWP> hi
[08:59] <App_> arand like which one? I'm googling for some mirrors and I cant find anyone that seam to wanna work
[08:59] <LeonWP> do I still need the alternate installer for installing ubuntu next to a windows installation?
[08:59] <LeonWP> or is the desktop installer capable of that meanwhile?
[08:59] <ani> markatto its 4mb
[08:59] <ubuntuaddicted> slamdunk dont think so
[09:00] <arand> App_: http://pgp.mit.edu/ is always worth a shot I guess
[09:00] <ani> brb
[09:00] <Reilithion> slam-dunk: If you're concerned about security, you should research the subject yourself.  It isn't wise to take the word(s) of chat room participants for granted.  That said, I'm not aware of any /serious/ security compromises involved with putting an interface in promiscuous mode.
[09:00] <Adman65_> how can i add/remove init scripts from start up?
[09:00] <slam-dunk> sudo ifconfig eth0 promisc didn't work
[09:00] <App_> arand already tried =/
[09:00] <ectospasm> I'm having a brain fart (too much stuff going on in my life), what's the command to upgrade from 9.10->10.04, using apt-get or aptitude?  I'm thinking "aptitude dist-upgrade..." Am I correct?
[09:01] <markatto> ectospasm: you have to change your sources first for that to work, I think
[09:01] <ectospasm> markatto: OK, I thought it might be something like that.
[09:01] <wizard_> ectospasm: sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade