[00:21] <drumos> ls
[00:21] <drumos> hi drone
[00:21] <drumos> #quit
[00:22] <drumos> -quit
[00:34] <ObrienDave> acz32, you can inquire in #ubuntu+1
[00:36] <gr1zzlybe4r> what process controls the logout on lid close for ubuntu? I've installed GNOME 3, but I can't get the DE to logout a user on screen close even after manually setting it with the gnome-tweak-tool.
[00:38] <acz32> ObrienDave: i have no desire to but thanks
[00:45] <nikola___> .
[01:14] <Kamuela> how can i kill all chrome processes currently running?
[01:24] <Arrick> I am so happy I can actually print to my printer in Ubuntu... in the past, that was not the case.
[01:24] <compdoc> its the case that prevented it?
[01:26] <bettchenchen> hi, I need to correct a false mount point of an external hdd of mine
[01:26] <bettchenchen> units name is 4, but mount point turned to 41, not 4, as it should be
[01:26] <xeirrr> Hi, guys. Anyone run fluxbox?
[01:26] <bazhang> !blkid | bettchenchen
[01:27] <xeirrr> The update-minus cannot detect some apps, like chromium
[01:27] <xeirrr> update-menus*
[01:29] <bettchenchen> bazhang, /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Volume-4" UUID="ba304d5b-9ce5-4f23-a766-aba3d3f7c3ba" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="00026cb0-01 << correctly identified as 4, but under thunar it gets listed as "volume-41". If I try to manually correct it to 4, "i have no permission to see it"
[01:30] <bazhang> bettchenchen, manually correct it in fstab?
[01:30] <bettchenchen> bazhang, instructions please
[01:30] <bazhang> !fstab
[01:30] <bazhang> bettchenchen, ^
[01:31] <bettchenchen> bazhang, the same unit (HDD) has a "4" owned by me and "41" owned by root, will changing root to me solve the thing?
[01:32] <bazhang> bettchenchen, did you read any of the links I just gave you
[01:32] <bettchenchen> bazhang, noe
[01:35] <bettchenchen> You may use any name you wish for the mount point, but you must create the mount point before you mount the partition.
[01:35] <bettchenchen> does that mean I have to unmount the hdd first?
[01:37] <Nyanpo> Is there a place you can go if you just purchased a server and you have no idea what to do?
[01:37] <Nyanpo> server in question runs Ubuntu and has LAMP set up on it for us already.
[01:38] <wafflejock> Nyanpo, you have a specific question?
[01:38] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server Nyanpo
[01:38] <Nyanpo> danke
[01:38] <Nyanpo> wafflejock, we're trying to set up an imageboard.
[01:38] <Nyanpo> I've never used a server before (except as an end user, heh) so I'm kind of lost
[01:38] <Nyanpo> but yeah
[01:40] <daftykins> Nyanpo: although there's always the support of the provider you are paying ;)
[01:41] <Alissa> !ubuntu
[01:41] <Nyanpo> daftykins, hah, yes, but I'm just looking for a place of reference.
[01:41] <Alissa> ugh. again with te wrong buffer. blargh.
[01:41] <bekks> Nyanpo: Reference on what?
[01:42] <Nyanpo> just if something comes up.
[01:42] <daftykins> Alissa: what are you looking for?
[01:42] <Aeterne> Anyone know how I might transfer a folder from a virtual machine to my actual physical HDD?
[01:42] <daftykins> Aeterne: SCP over SSH
[01:42] <daftykins> !scp
[01:42] <wafflejock> Nyanpo, really they are different components, Apache you can go to apache.org or just google for answers like everything else, mysql and php also have their own sites and IRC chats, so depends on what the problem is
[01:42] <Alissa> daftykins: #weechat has a !ubuntu command to list the Ubuntu WeeChat PPA's with WeeChat 1.1
[01:42] <wafflejock> Nyanpo, main thing is your config files are in /etc/ and your logs are in /var/log/apache2 by default
[01:43] <Nyanpo> OK
[01:43] <Aeterne> daftykins: thank you, I'll look into it.
[01:50] <baniel> hello??
[01:50] <baniel> Is there anyone?
[01:51] <Nyanpo> hublo.
[01:51] <daftykins> yes
[01:51] <Nyanpo> there are many people here
[01:51] <Nyanpo> almost 2000 of them.
[01:51] <daftykins> baniel: got a support question? ask it :)
[01:51] <baniel> yeah
[01:51] <trysten> why would apt fail to connect to archive.ubuntu.com
[01:51] <trysten> it responds to ping
[01:52] <Arrick> Amm0n, you around?
[01:52] <daftykins> show us a proper apt-get update pastebin
[01:52] <baniel> Unity desktop is so big.........
[01:52] <Arrick> Amm0n, was it you telling me the app your fiance uses for development the other day?
[01:52] <daftykins> baniel: that's not a question :)
It maybe network error, you can try again.....I get such problem sometimes.......
[01:55] <trysten> daftykins: how do i set a sane timeout?
[01:56] <Amm0n> Arrick, Aptana..
[01:56] <daftykins> trysten: as much as i love guessing, complete sentences with context are always favoured :)
[01:56] <baniel> Or you can change a faster software server
[01:56] <Arrick> thanks Amm0n I couldnt remember, and couldnt scrollback, because I bricked my box last night LOL
[01:57] <Amm0n> ouch
[01:57] <Arrick> trying to install the "macbuntu" theme, bricked the box where it wouldnt get to a point where I could revert it.
[01:57] <daftykins> Arrick: please try and keep the general chatter to a minimum, you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat
[01:57] <Arrick> I've gotten really good at setting the resolution now, LOL
[02:01] <trysten> daftykins: how do i set a sane timeout to apt-get update? it's been running for several minutes
[02:01] <daftykins> never had any problems myself.
[02:03] <excelsiora> Ubuntu! on sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:03] <excelsiora> what do I do?
[02:03] <daftykins> well first off you need to give us a full pastebin of what is output
[02:03] <daftykins> just being given a generic error code means _nothing_
[02:04] <daftykins> !paste
[02:04] <trysten> daftykins: i understand. the phrasing is bad
[02:07] <daftykins> excelsiora: you throw that pastebin up yet?
[02:09] <excelsiora> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10692766/
[02:10] <excelsiora> thanks by the way
[02:10] <daftykins> excelsiora: you've run out of disk space somewhere, can you pastebin "df -h" ?
[02:11] <daftykins> looks like it's on your /boot partition
[02:12] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, time to clean out old kernels from /boot: sudo autoremove should do the trick
[02:13] <daftykins> i'd have said that :<
[02:13] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:18] <trysten> so.. how to i install pastebinit when apt is not working
[02:18] <daftykins> you don't
[02:18] <sl33k_> How do I delete the ~/.m2 repository?
[02:18] <excelsiora> ok
[02:19] <hkrrsx> trysten: how about aptitude or download the .deb package and install through dpkg -i ?
[02:19] <daftykins> sl33k_: sure a rename wouldn't be the wiser first move?
[02:19] <OerHeks> trysten, find a working mirror or check if your ubuntu is supported
[02:19] <daftykins> sl33k_: "rm -r ~/.m2"
[02:20] <trysten>  the attempt number?
[02:22] <excelsiora> daftykins: another error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10692811/
[02:22] <trysten> derp. is Get:X an indication of the attempt number on a certain number?
[02:22] <excelsiora> cfhowlett: ^^
[02:22] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, reading now ...
[02:23] <trysten> otherwise i would not know how to determine which of my mirrors needs to be.. replace? besides i am use most basic sources.list
[02:23] <daftykins> yeah that's too messed up to proceed as is
[02:23] <daftykins> excelsiora: pastebin of "df -h" as asked and also "ls -al /boot" please
[02:24] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, display your partition usage : df -H | pastebinit
[02:25] <excelsiora> ok
[02:27] <excelsiora> df -H http://paste.ubuntu.com/10692830/
[02:27] <daftykins> yep full /boot
[02:28] <Nyanpo> quick, stupid question: how do I give a program that I have installed full rights to read write and execute?
[02:28] <excelsiora> ls -al /boot http://paste.ubuntu.com/10692833/
[02:28] <Nyanpo> where do I find it?
[02:28] <Nyanpo> I know chmod but I need to know where to find it
[02:28] <Nyanpo> Error: vichan does not have permission to create directories (boards) here. You will need to chmod (or operating system equivalent) appropriately.
[02:28] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, so /dev/sda1  has only 15m available.  Manually delete the all but the most recent 2 kernels
[02:28] <daftykins> excelsiora: "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic" then repeat for -43-generic, -44-generic and -45-generic
[02:29] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, ^^^ this
[02:29] <excelsiora> ok
[02:30] <Nyanpo> anyone?
[02:30] <excelsiora> daftykins: error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10692843/
[02:31] <excelsiora> cfhowlett: ^^
[02:31] <daftykins> Nyanpo: i think you're falling at hurdle #1 of web administration, if you're trying to get something to work with the document root of /var/www/html/ you need to learn how to run a web server
[02:31]  * cfhowlett cfhowlett bunts to daftykins
[02:31] <daftykins> excelsiora: try one of the others first, might be that it won't due to your broken config
[02:31] <daftykins> i wonder if we need to use a force switch, hmm
[02:32] <Nyanpo> daftykins, I have no idea how to run a web server.
[02:32] <Nyanpo> I just need a quick fix.
[02:32] <Nyanpo> I am going to learn it, but now is not the time.
[02:32] <daftykins> Nyanpo: sorry.
[02:32] <daftykins> that attitude is a bad one
[02:33] <Nyanpo> i know
[02:33] <excelsiora> daftykins: same errors
[02:33] <Nyanpo> I have many bad attitudes but right now it's half to four in the morning
[02:33] <daftykins> Nyanpo: yep, so you shouldn't even be working on this :)
[02:33] <Nyanpo> noo
[02:34] <Nyanpo> I need it to be done
[02:34] <daftykins> excelsiora: try "sudo dpkg -r --force-all linux-image-...
[02:34] <Nyanpo> its not for me it's for someone else
[02:34] <daftykins> Nyanpo: good luck finding someone.
[02:34] <cfhowlett> "If you don't want to learn how to administer your system and you expect others to fix it, you're gonna have a bad time."
[02:34] <Nyanpo> aaa
[02:34] <Nyanpo> ok
[02:34] <Nyanpo> I know, IRC should not be a tech support anyways
[02:34] <Nyanpo> I should google first
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> Nyanpo: yep, it's very very very unlikely you'll have a problem that no one else has experienced or is experiencing
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> forum posts are great archives for tech support
[02:42] <excelsiora> daftykins: thanks, I'll try it
[02:46] <excelsiora> daftykins: says may need to re-run boot loader [grub]
[02:46] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, that would be normal
[02:46] <excelsiora> do I need to worry about that? Want full message?
[02:46] <excelsiora> ok, do I need to do anything actively to do that?
[02:47] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, or course, send the message!
[02:47] <excelsiora> ok...
[02:47] <excelsiora> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10692895/
[02:47] <excelsiora> cfhowlett: ^^
[02:47] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, reading ...
[02:48] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, looks good but it won't hurt to run sudo update-grub      to reconfigure the bootloader
[02:50] <jamespaulcfw> Could anyone help with setting the idle times for GNS3 routers???
[02:52] <jamespaulcfw> Anyone have some descent experience with Router emulation software ???
[02:53] <daftykins> i think that's the first time i've been flood protected XD
[02:53] <daftykins> sorry about that, someone came to my door and ended up being an ex student 0o
[02:54] <daftykins> jamespaulcfw: completely off topic here, go to ##networking maybe
[02:54] <cfhowlett> daftykins, you fired a student?!   harsh!
[02:54] <excelsiora> ok
[02:54] <daftykins> lol
[02:55] <daftykins> excelsiora: did you "sudo apt-get -f install" after all the above too?
[02:56] <excelsiora> haven't done it all yet, going slow
[02:56] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, as you should :)
[02:56] <excelsiora> so sudo update-grub now or after removing other kernels?
[02:57] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, you can run it any time.  any error messages will be helpful
[02:57] <daftykins> as long as you don't get rid of -48 :>
[02:58] <excelsiora> ok, just removed 43 44 and 45, didn't see any errors
[02:58] <daftykins> \o/
[02:59] <cfhowlett> excelsiora,  and sudo apt-get -f install
[02:59] <excelsiora> so I keep seeing these grub warnings: Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[02:59] <daftykins> it's fine.
[02:59] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, normal
[03:01] <excelsiora> ok so now sudo apt-get -f install?
[03:01] <daftykins> yep
[03:01] <excelsiora> any other arguments?
[03:01] <daftykins> should go cleanly
[03:01] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, yes | pastebinit
[03:02] <excelsiora> I want to see it in my out, so I'll manually pastebin it. What does that comment do anyways, not sure I've seen it before?
[03:02] <excelsiora> command, not comment
[03:02] <daftykins> resumes where it left off
[03:03] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, run this for apt-get details:   apt-get
[03:03] <excelsiora> ok
[03:03] <excelsiora> can I set up a buildbot to build Ubuntu stuff on a regular basis?
[03:04] <daftykins> i'm unfamiliar with that personally
[03:04] <excelsiora> is there a tutorial for that?
[03:04] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, you mean other than automatic updates??
[03:04] <excelsiora> yeah, like maybe the kernal, other tools, etc...
[03:05] <daftykins> kernel
[03:05] <excelsiora> kernel
[03:05] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, you don't want to automate kernel, IMHO ... see your own experience
[03:06] <excelsiora> yeah, but I'd like to build it and test it tho
[03:07] <excelsiora> am I going to have to force upgrades in the future?
[03:07] <daftykins> no
[03:07] <excelsiora> yay
[03:07] <daftykins> done with that last command yet?
[03:07] <excelsiora> not done yet
[03:07] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, no but you might find it wise to do regularly spring-clean your /boot
[03:07] <daftykins> separate /boot was a bad bug with LVM installs i think
[03:08] <daftykins> as in, it being too small
[03:08] <excelsiora> hm
[03:09] <daftykins> bit surprised how slow package management goes on your system, i guess you're not lucky enough to be using solid state? :)
[03:10] <irc|NET> hi
[03:10] <irc|NET> anyone needing help?
[03:10] <daftykins> you wait for them to ask, not the other way (:
[03:10] <excelsiora> exit with error
[03:10] <excelsiora> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10692961/
[03:10] <cfhowlett> irc|NET still have this unresolved:
[03:11] <daftykins> cfhowlett: chicken or the egg? :)
[03:12] <daftykins> excelsiora: do "df -h" again?
[03:12] <cfhowlett> irc|NET, bought the Dell sputnik m3800.  clean installed ubuntustudio.  the new grub doesn't include the dell diagnostic nor factory settings restore partitions.  update-grub doesn't capture them, but they are definitely still present.  how to configure grub?
[03:12] <daftykins> still plenty of kernels still present it seems
[03:13] <excelsiora> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10692977/
[03:13] <excelsiora> daftykins: ^^
[03:13] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, please.  possibly reboot then apt-get autoremove
[03:13] <daftykins> looks to me like the kernels never got removed
[03:13] <daftykins> the space wasn't reclaimed
[03:14] <excelsiora> the kernels seemed mentioned in the error
[03:14] <daftykins> yeah it still seems to be finding all of them in /boot
[03:14] <irc|NET> cfhowlett: you dint formt the HDD?
[03:14] <daftykins> i'm not sure the dpkg -r removed them
[03:15] <cfhowlett> irc|NET, nope.  I did create a dedicated /home but no other hdd/partition changes.
[03:15] <irc|NET> why did i get banned form ubuntu-social?
[03:15] <daftykins> irc|NET: that is not on topic here.
[03:15] <daftykins> irc|NET: go ask #ubuntu-ops maybe
[03:16] <irc|NET> cfhowlett: you should go with default format options
[03:16] <excelsiora> augh
[03:16] <excelsiora> tired, want sleep
[03:16] <irc|NET> you need to dualboot?
[03:16] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, ???
[03:16] <cfhowlett> irc|NET, nope.  ubuntu only
[03:17] <irc|NET> so why you setup ubuntu to use the hole HDD?
[03:17]  * daftykins chuckles
[03:17] <irc|NET> why didnt you
[03:17] <cfhowlett> irc|NET, ubuntu didn't use the whole HDD out of the box.
[03:18] <irc|NET> how come?
[03:18] <irc|NET> you just tell it to use the hole HDD
[03:18] <cfhowlett> irc|NET, no no no.  I want to recover those 2 partitions
[03:18] <irc|NET> and it should remove all other partitions
[03:19] <cfhowlett> irc|NET, ... thanks, I'll work at it.
[03:19] <irc|NET> cfhowlett: but arent you an op here?
[03:19] <irc|NET> you should klnow
[03:19] <daftykins> irc|NET: stop now please :)
[03:19] <irc|NET> i remeber you
[03:20] <cfhowlett> irc|NET, no I'm not an op and I'm done.  thank you for your input.
[03:20] <irc|NET> ive seen you before
[03:20] <irc|NET> you are a regular
[03:22] <owen1> docker run hello-world => Get https://index.docker.io/v1/repositories/library/hello-world/images: x509: certificate signed by unknown authority. anyone got clues? (more details here: https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/11876)
[03:22] <excelsiora> What if I shut down improperly? Probably not while updating, but something like that?
[03:23] <drose379> Guys, looking for a laptop that is highly compatable with ubuntu
[03:23] <drose379> As is, minimal tweaks needed
[03:24] <daftykins> excelsiora: i don't follow the question
[03:24] <drose379> And, does anyone have experience with system76?
[03:25] <daftykins> drose379: #ubuntu-offtopic for shopping advice please
[03:25] <drose379> you got it, thanks
[03:27] <kian> I'm having wifi dongle problems.
[03:27] <kian> What's the command to check what chipset I'm using?
[03:27] <excelsiora> error on autoremove: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10693016/
[03:28] <excelsiora> daftykins: ^^
[03:28] <daftykins> kian: lsusb if it's a USB dongle
[03:28] <kian> daftykins: ID 7392:7811 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7811Un 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8188CUS]
[03:28] <daftykins> excelsiora: yeah you still don't have any space. i don't think the old ones removed earlier
[03:28] <kian> this one has native issues
[03:28] <kian> https://askubuntu.com/questions/551522/netis-wf2120-wifi-adapter-drops-signal-within-seconds
[03:28] <kian> I followed this but it still has strange issues...
[03:29] <excelsiora> so start googling how to remove old kernels?
[03:29] <daftykins> no...
[03:29] <excelsiora> do we have the swap with encryption fixed yet, by any chance?
[03:29] <daftykins> can you focus on one task at a time? :P
[03:29] <excelsiora> ok
[03:29] <excelsiora> sorry
[03:30] <kian> daftykins: When I first installed, it would cut out and disconnect every 5 minutes and I had to manually start it again. Now on the actual device it's perfect but when I'm SSHed or VNC'd in, it disconnects, laggy, boots me out.
[03:30] <daftykins> if i were you, what i would probably do is make some space for "sudo apt-get -f install" to complete, by moving some of the largest files "ls -alh /boot" to another path temporarily. e.g. "mv file ~"
[03:30] <daftykins> excelsiora: ^
[03:30] <daftykins> kian: ok, well i'd just look up that realtek 8188CUS device
[03:33] <irc|NET> everyone should bookmark http://www.webupd8.org site
[03:33] <excelsiora> apt-get clean?
[03:33] <irc|NET> its the best site about ubuntu
[03:34] <daftykins> irc|NET: no it's not and this isn't a chat channel, please stop.
[03:34] <irc|NET> and also http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk
[03:34] <daftykins> stop.
[03:35] <irc|NET> you will learn alot there unlike using irc
[03:35] <excelsiora> irc|NET: please listen to the mods, take it to OT.
[03:36] <irc|NET> im banned there
[03:36] <daftykins> not a huge shock to discover, that
[03:36] <irc|NET> thanks to phunyguy
[03:36] <daftykins> irc|NET: i have asked you multiple times now, PLEASE STOP
[03:36] <excelsiora> can't imagine why. take it elsewhere then
[03:36] <phunyguy> irc|NET: have you joined #ubuntu-ops?
[03:36] <daftykins> i think irc|NET is more the kind to just complain without reason
[03:38] <MtIbtiex> hi
[03:39] <MtIbtiex> can you run GPARTED inside running ubuntu to resize partitions?
[03:39] <excelsiora> sudo apt-get purge on teh linux headers?
[03:39] <MtIbtiex> or have to livecd gparted?
[03:39] <excelsiora> and images?
[03:40] <wiak> depending on file system MtIbtiex
[03:40] <excelsiora> MtIbtiex: Pretty sure you'll need to unmount the drive to resize it, so yes, livecd
[03:40] <MtIbtiex> wiak linux filesystem
[03:40] <MtIbtiex> ext or something
[03:40] <wiak> some filesystems allow for live resize like LVM + a filesytem i forgot
[03:41] <excelsiora> ok, gonna try purge
[03:41] <MtIbtiex> excelsiora ok will livecd, its only 227MB
[03:42] <MtIbtiex> but will force to close os
[03:42] <excelsiora> so I'm gonna try this: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[03:43] <excelsiora> ok
[03:43] <excelsiora> ?
[03:43] <daftykins> MtIbtiex: have backups too ;)
[03:43] <daftykins> excelsiora: sure, but i doubt it'll work whilst your APT is in a funky state, which is why i'd said dpkg -r
[03:43] <daftykins> won't hurt to try
[03:43] <MtIbtiex> daftykins no need, i trust OPEN SOURCE, it wont do anything bad, right?
[03:44] <daftykins> are you being serious?
[03:44] <excelsiora> I'm optimistic...
[03:44] <MtIbtiex> semi about open source,  partly about backups (i wouldnt do but i already have for other reasons)
[03:45] <excelsiora> dude! It worked!
[03:45] <excelsiora> score!
[03:45] <excelsiora> no longer in /boot!
[03:45] <excelsiora> gonna do it on 43 44 and 45 now
[03:46] <rockstar_> anybody knows how to set Ubuntu openjdk path? I followed this one didn't work for me http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9612941/how-to-set-java-environment-path-in-ubuntu
[03:46] <Tim3> what does it means "unix-like"?
[03:47] <wiak> Tim3  like unix? :P
[03:47] <excelsiora> 45 is finishing up, I think it's working!
[03:49] <keltim> is it possible for cfdisk to actually mess up a new 4TB drive? I forgot about GPT and lazily used it, made a type 83 and ever since, nothing but sense key errors ... I would think it would just create an incorrectly sized partition, and I think the disk is bad, but just asking .. should have used gparted ...
[03:49] <excelsiora> Sweet, check out the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10693089/
[03:49] <excelsiora> only 39% of /boot is being used now!
[03:49] <excelsiora> Woot!
[03:49] <excelsiora> Anything else I should do to clean up or try to update?
[03:50] <daftykins> doesn't make much sense that a purge worked when a configure was failing, but ah well all's well that ends well
[03:50] <daftykins> you should do "sudo apt-get -f install" now
[03:50] <excelsiora> sudo apt-get -f install, ok
[03:50] <excelsiora> uh oh, really didn't do anything
[03:51] <excelsiora> no error messages, but 0 0 0 0
[03:51] <excelsiora> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:51] <daftykins> that's fine
[03:51] <daftykins> now a normal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" assuming that's what you normally run
[03:51] <excelsiora> ok!
[03:52] <excelsiora> ok
[03:52] <MtIbtiex> i want to add one think to my ubuntu. when i click on START menu, i get different app categories, i like that, but i would also have few most common used app also on that list immediately, not only in category, but just when i open START menu, i want some apps and that categories. how to add app shortcuts to that START menu?
[03:52] <MtIbtiex> i use LXDE if that matters
[03:52] <excelsiora> ok, same messages
[03:52] <MtIbtiex> thing*
[03:52] <excelsiora> wife is threatening to break my laptop if I don't go to bed, thanks for all the help!!!!
[03:52] <daftykins> nn o/
[03:52] <excelsiora> bye everyone
[03:52] <excelsiora> daftykins:
[03:52] <daftykins> MtIbtiex: 'start menu' is far too much like Windows talk :P
[03:53] <MtIbtiex> excelsiora so thats the point of having wife? to force to stop PC. sad
[03:53] <excelsiora> thanks
[03:54] <MtIbtiex> any idea for my start menu?
[04:12] <MtIbtiex> i want to add one thing to my ubuntu. when i click on START menu, i get different app categories, i like that, but i would also have few most common used app also on that list immediately, not only in category, but just when i open START menu, i want some apps and that categories. how to add app shortcuts to that START menu?   i use lxde if that matters
[04:12] <Minkio> I am trying to debootstrap trusty and the command failed with Package.bz2 is corrupted. Are there any mirror that I can try?
[04:13] <MtIbtiex> linux is shit. on windows i can just drag'n'drop app to start menu, even in windows95
[04:13] <bbonifield> hey all, i’m working with a CI setup, and i’m trying to cache metadata between builds to speed up container setup.  when you do an `apt-get update`, where does apt store the resulting repository information cache?
[04:13] <daftykins> MtIbtiex: don't use that language here thanks. go back to Windows then :)
[04:14] <MtIbtiex> daftykins i cant, other person forced me to linux
[04:14] <daftykins> MtIbtiex: then they're your support :)
[04:15] <Minkio> bbonifield: If you need to manage a lot machine then you can set up a local apt mirror
[04:15] <MtIbtiex> daftykins b but   its hard to contact them
[04:15] <MtIbtiex> i want start menu shortcuts now
[04:15] <MtIbtiex> or i switch to windows
[04:15] <bbonifield> Minkio: well, this is running inside Circle CI, so i don’t have control over that
[04:15] <MtIbtiex> last warning
[04:16] <daftykins> MtIbtiex: don't get converted by people that can't back up their opinions :)
[04:16] <daftykins> MtIbtiex: yes go switch to Windows, goodbye, we don't care
[04:16] <Minkio> bbonifield: no, i mean you can say have a VM or physical node that host the local apt mirror and let other machine that need the repository to download from it
[04:16] <MtIbtiex> daftykins but its complicated and need much effort to convert that VM to windows
[04:17] <daftykins> MtIbtiex: don't act like we owe you anything, this is a volunteer channel.
[04:17] <daftykins> a VM? ok i'm done speaking to you
[04:17] <MtIbtiex> daftykins you owe me, you advertise linux and literally forced me to use it
[04:17] <MtIbtiex> daftykins ?? you thought i would use linux as HOST OS???
[04:17] <daftykins> i certainly don't do those things. your attitude is horrible
[04:17] <daftykins> goodbye.
[04:17] <MtIbtiex> maybe if linux start mouse support
[04:17] <bbonifield> Minkio: yeah, i understand that.  Circle CI is a turn-key CI provider, so i don’t have access to persistent VMs.  that’s why i’m just trying to cache data to pre-load onto the VM during setup/teardown
[04:19] <Minkio> bbonifield: I don't know then, sorry
[04:20] <bbonifield> Minkio: yeah, all i’m really wondering is where apt stores it’s repository information cache.  like when you do `apt-get update`, it has to store the metadata somewhere.  i’m just not sure where.
[04:22] <Minkio> bbonifield: as far as i understand, the apt stores a list of locations of repositories but it doesn't store much else. That's why everytime you apt-get update you either need internet or have the DVD-rom connected
[04:23] <daftykins> /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin
[04:24] <hyppocrate> hi all
[04:24] <hyppocrate> i am looking for help about manipulation of files ...
[04:25] <somsip> hyppocrate: in what way do you want to manipulate them?
[04:25] <hyppocrate> impossible to $cp / $mv  , my files from torrent .
[04:25] <hyppocrate> i try with mouse and right click , and i stop all time
[04:25] <hyppocrate> and with $sudo cp
[04:25] <hyppocrate> impossible to ..
[04:26] <hyppocrate> i try to $chmod 7777 repertory/
[04:26] <somsip> hyppocrate: paste the commands you are using and the error messages you get
[04:26] <hyppocrate> but nothing to
[04:26] <hyppocrate> ok thx u somsip
[04:26] <daftykins> hyppocrate: do you think you could explain pressing the enter key less?
[04:27] <hyppocrate> ok daftykins ;) i will try , but my english is bad , so i need much way to can explain my thing ;)
[04:27] <MtIbtiex> i want to add one thing to my ubuntu. when i click on START menu, i get different app categories, i like that, but i would also have few most common used app also on that list immediately, not only in category, but just when i open START menu, i want some apps and that categories. how to add app shortcuts to that START menu?   i use lxde if that matters
[04:30] <hyppocrate> somsip: http://pastebin.com/ELpfDzAX
[04:31] <hyppocrate> https://translate.google.fr/ too ... ;)
[04:31] <limbera> i'm looking for help with supervisor
[04:31] <MtIbtiex> i want to add one thing to my ubuntu. when i click on START menu, i get different app categories, i like that, but i would also have few most common used app also on that list immediately, not only in category, but just when i open START menu, i want some apps and that categories. how to add app shortcuts to that START menu?   i use lxde if that matters
[04:31] <somsip> hyppocrate: looks like too many ../ Use tab completion to make sure the directories exist
[04:31] <limbera> if this is the wrong place could someone point me somewhere where i can find some?
[04:32] <daftykins> !repeat | MtIbtiex
[04:32] <MtIbtiex> daftykins why no help?
[04:32] <MtIbtiex> help!
[04:33] <aeon-ltd> please be patient
[04:33] <aeon-ltd> if someone could help they would help
[04:33] <daftykins> MtIbtiex: because i don't use lubuntu and i don't like you
[04:33] <MtIbtiex> daftykins why dont like me?
[04:33] <rypervenche> Let's keep this to support guys.
[04:33] <hyppocrate> somsip: only 1go ...
[04:34] <MtIbtiex> rypervenche support dont seem to like me
[04:34] <hyppocrate> my sd card disconnect , all time i try to pu files inside
[04:34] <daftykins> support only thanks.
[04:35] <hyppocrate> okok
[04:35] <rypervenche> MtIbtiex: Be patient please. People who can help may be able to help if you are patient. If no one helps, either they don't know how to, or if you are not being respecful, they may simply not want to help. Everyone here is a volunteer.
[04:35] <hyppocrate> have a nice night , i will ask to google ;) kiss daftykins
[04:35] <daftykins> <3
[04:37] <Minkio> I am trying to debootstrap trusty and the command failed with Package.bz2 is corrupted. Are there any other mirror I can try download from?
[04:38] <daftykins> Minkio: what are you using? there are tonnes of mirrors for all ubuntu repos
[04:40] <Minkio> I am using a 14.04.2 Desktop DVD to boot into liveCD and then do debootstrap onto a USB drive I am going to setup as native mirrored root pool, but the debootstrap step failed with Package.bz2 was corrupted
[04:41] <Minkio> I am following this guide: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[04:42] <Minkio> in that guide section 4.4 mentioned the command to download the base system "debootstrap trusty /mnt", but the command failed with Package.bz2 was corrupted
[04:44] <MtIbtiex> help!
[04:45] <daftykins> i would think ZFS best used with a supported OS
[04:45] <aeon-ltd> MtIbtiex: ok, SERIOUSLY LEARN PATIENCE, i am going to give it a shot. what menu are you talking about?
[04:45] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd start menu
[04:45] <aeon-ltd> MtIbtiex: can you right click it?
[04:45] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd yes
[04:45] <aeon-ltd> are there editing options?
[04:46] <Minkio> daftykins: debootstrap was trying to download the file from http://archive.ubuntu.org/...... something something
[04:46] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd "add to desktop" and "properties"
[04:46] <aeon-ltd> MtIbtiex: ok then, do you know which application controls the menu?
[04:46] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd no
[04:47] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd i found "openbox configuration" in start menu somewhere, i clicked but there is no options to edit start menu
[04:48] <Minkio> daftykins: so the file is corrupted on the official archive, I only need a pointer to a mirror to try download the same file
[04:48] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd help
[04:48] <daftykins> Minkio: or your connection is funky
[04:48] <aeon-ltd> can you wait for me to friggin type ok,
[04:49] <daftykins> aeon-ltd: shouldn't enable types like this :(
[04:49] <aeon-ltd> MtIbtiex: openbox's menu is controlled by obmenu
[04:50] <Minkio> daftykins: are there anyway I can redirect deboostrap to get the Package.b2z file from a mounted CD?
[04:50] <daftykins> pass
[04:51] <daftykins> google could answer that though
[04:51] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd i dont have it, will install
[04:51] <Minkio> daftykins: ok thanks for you help, have a good day :)
[04:51] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd but maybe better to install other window manager? with drag n drop?
[04:52] <aeon-ltd> MtIbtiex: install whatever you like/want
[04:52] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd i dont know what i like, and what i can choose
[04:52] <MtIbtiex> aeon-ltd you tell me what install, i will
[04:52] <aeon-ltd> MtIbtiex: that is up to you sorry
[04:52] <MtIbtiex> i want drag n drop in start menu
[04:53] <aeon-ltd> MtIbtiex: well then you can ask the channel users for that 'what window managers/desktop environments have drag and drop menus?'
[04:53] <MtIbtiex> and how to connect it to lxde
[04:54] <MtIbtiex> thats all complicated, should have stay with windows
[04:55] <daftykins> MtIbtiex: yep you're not cut out for Linux
[04:56] <aeon-ltd> woah too far
[04:56] <sfdebug> gr33n7007h: hi dude!
[04:57] <aeon-ltd> MtIbtiex: what linux offers is a lot of control, you can have things pretty much anyway you want it to be, the downside is that it can take a lot of work. forums usually have a 'show your desktop' posts, if you browse them you can ask other users what software they are using and which themes/icon sets/etc so you can get your desktop the same way
[04:59] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd but on windows all is great from start
[04:59] <MtIbtiex_> i want control but i want gui control
[04:59] <MtIbtiex_> simple click
[05:00] <daftykins> i don't think you'll ever get that
[05:00] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd i install obmenu  and it has some options but dont allow me to change start menu
[05:00] <daftykins> all Linux desktops are always down to file editing to get things done
[05:01] <MtIbtiex_> FILE EDITING???
[05:01] <MtIbtiex_> i hope thats joke
[05:01] <MtIbtiex_> i want drag n drop, click n click
[05:02] <MtIbtiex_> want to make simple things with one button/click, like "give me $100" button
[05:02] <aeon-ltd> i don't know what the start menu is
[05:02] <aeon-ltd> is it 'main menu'
[05:02] <aeon-ltd> ?
[05:02] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd that thing where you can start apps with clicks
[05:02] <MtIbtiex_> or logout
[05:03] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd shows when you click on your bottom left on screen
[05:04] <MtIbtiex_> i want to reorganize apps
[05:04] <aeon-ltd> you do realise i'm not using lubuntu or ubuntu right now and i can't see your screen either
[05:04] <aeon-ltd> some reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896355
[05:05] <MtIbtiex_> i dont use ubuntu either
[05:06] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd THEY told to edit text files...
[05:06] <MtIbtiex_> or use app to edit  but this app is made in JAVA
[05:07] <MtIbtiex_> so start menu is not windows manager dependent but lxde dependent?
[05:07] <MtIbtiex_> what normal lxde to install then?  xfce?
[05:07] <MtIbtiex_> lxde-qt?
[05:08] <aeon-ltd> i'm pretty sure lxde doesn't truly exist as a de, it's one part openbox one part lx applications
[05:09] <daftykins> that's more splitting hairs though eh?
[05:10] <MtIbtiex_> XFCE vs MATE
[05:10] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd they should market/advertise, its unfinished BETA
[05:10] <MtIbtiex_> shouldn't*
[05:10] <MtIbtiex_> XFCE vs MATE
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> i don't think any of those are in beta...
[05:11] <MtIbtiex_> yes but what are differences between
[05:11] <MtIbtiex_> which one i can make look like windows
[05:11] <aeon-ltd> why not just use windows
[05:11] <aeon-ltd> nerd cred?
[05:12] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd because Patrick Schleizer forced me to use linux
[05:12] <MtIbtiex_> it would take much time to convert to windows
[05:12] <MtIbtiex_> but seems it will be worth it
[05:12] <rypervenche> MtIbtiex_: Ok, please stop with this. If you are not willing to follow the advice from the people here, then perhaps you should look elsewhere for your solutions.
[05:13] <xeirrr> Hi, where is pulseaudio-alsa for ubuntu?
[05:13] <MtIbtiex_> rypervenche who said im not going follow? aeon-ltd told me to consider windows, so i am considering
[05:13] <rypervenche> MtIbtiex_: You are also complaining and blaming people for things you did. Please stop doing so in this channel.
[05:14] <MtIbtiex_> rypervenche no i didnt
[05:14] <MtIbtiex_> rypervenche its Patrick Schleizer that forced me
[05:14] <aeon-ltd> ok cool it everyone
[05:14] <hkrrsx> MtIbtiex_: Here's a YouTube video describing the difference between the Linux desktop environments. You can choose which one you like best.
[05:14] <hkrrsx> https://youtu.be/ID24jbKCZ5A
[05:14] <Artemis3> MtIbtiex_, you can't rant here its technical issues only
[05:14] <daftykins> you're all enabling this user by responding.
[05:14] <daftykins> g'night
[05:14] <rypervenche> MtIbtiex_: Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to rant.
[05:14] <MtIbtiex_> hkrrsx i think i already choosen - xfce.  mate is gnome and i hate gnome
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> MtIbtiex_: i think you should just do a lot of googling and reading about what makes up the lxde gui if you want to know how to control it
[05:15] <Artemis3> well get an op and to the usual
[05:15] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd if i want to control it, will have to edit text files
[05:15] <MtIbtiex_> i dont want text files
[05:15] <MtIbtiex_> want point'n'click
[05:16] <rypervenche> MtIbtiex_: To edit the menu you have to edit text files: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Menus
[05:16] <aeon-ltd> ok, well trying is free, so yeah do what you want
[05:16] <MtIbtiex_> i am casual fat stupid windows user. i want to click with one fat hand, when other hand is eating hamburger
[05:16] <rypervenche> Yeah, I'm done.
[05:16] <MtIbtiex_> rypervenche yes and i dont want that so will switch to xfce
[05:16] <HackerII>  #ubuntu-offtopic    point & click
[05:16] <MtIbtiex_> i hope xfce allows editing start menu with mouse?
[05:17] <Amm0n|> no it doesn't
[05:17] <rypervenche> Nope
[05:17] <MtIbtiex_> ????
[05:17] <MtIbtiex_> that was my last hope
[05:18] <MtIbtiex_> unfortunately will have to convert to windows. it will take several hours or more but will be able to edit start menus
[05:18] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: There's lots of things you can configure with a mouse.  However, many things you may also need to edit a text file now and again.  That's just the way the world works.
[05:18] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel world? on windows you dont text files
[05:18] <MtIbtiex_> drag n drop on start menu  even on windows 2000
[05:19] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: There are point-and-click editors for the items in menus in a variety of environments.  However not all of them.
[05:20] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel the problem is most environments are crap, bloaty, bad-looking etc.  i only accepted lxde and xfce
[05:20] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: None of the environments are drag and drop, I believe.  That's just a design decision.
[05:20] <MtIbtiex_> bad design decision
[05:20] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: Those may have them.  You'll need to find out.
[05:20] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel they told me lxde and xfce doesnt
[05:20] <aeon-ltd> just try them
[05:21] <hkrrsx> MtIbtiex_: Here's a graphical (mostly) menu editor for LXDE .... http://lxmed.sourceforge.net/
[05:21] <MtIbtiex_> hkrrsx It is done in JAVA
[05:21] <rypervenche> I think Windows will be easier for him...
[05:21] <aeon-ltd> what's wrong with java?
[05:21] <MtIbtiex_> not going to install stupid java
[05:21] <aeon-ltd> ok then
[05:21] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: LXDE has one, according to the internet.  XFCE has one as well.
[05:21] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd it doesnt work natively but in crap java virtual machne
[05:22] <hkrrsx> MtIbtiex_: What's done in Java?
[05:22] <coder_> #wget
[05:22] <MtIbtiex_> aeon-ltd and all java software requires 10 times more memory than equivalent C++ software
[05:22] <aeon-ltd> yeah that's kinda the idea of java, code universally run wherever java is supported
[05:22] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: You're asking for one, we're providing you with information about one.  Stop being so picky.    No one's forcing you to do so.
[05:24] <MtIbtiex_> hkrrsx it was said on internets: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896355&p=12120945#post12120945
[05:24] <DalekSec> !info menulibre
[05:25] <hkrrsx> MtIbtiex_: I don't think you know what you're talking about
[05:25] <hkrrsx> Neither of the programs suggested run Java
[05:25] <hkrrsx> If you think they do, prove it
[05:25] <hkrrsx> I'm looking at the site right now and there's no mention of Java anywhere
[05:25] <MtIbtiex_> hkrrsx "Although I like the idea behind the LXMED-tool, I don't like the fact that it is written in Java. Not all people have Java installed (for some reason)"
[05:26] <MtIbtiex_> DalekSec is it for lxde or xfce
[05:27] <hkrrsx> MtIbtiex_: menulibre -- https://launchpad.net/menulibre
[05:27] <hkrrsx> MenuLibre is your one-stop shop for menus in Linux, whether you use Gnome, LXDE, XFCE, or Unity
[05:28] <hkrrsx> Stable releases can be installed in Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 from the PPA: https://launchpad.net/~menulibre-dev/+archive/devel
[05:28] <hkrrsx> NO mention of Java anywhere on their page
[05:29] <MtIbtiex_> hkrrsx but is mentioned here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896355&p=12120945#post12120945
[05:30] <hkrrsx> MtIbtiex_: that's for lxmed ... we've moved on from that
[05:30] <hkrrsx> Look at menulibre like we're telling you
[05:30] <hkrrsx> Links have been provided
[05:30] <crobbins> is there a good way to see if a ppa is already installed?  primarily via bash?
[05:32] <hkrrsx> crobbins: check out Y PPA Manager but it's a graphical program
[05:32] <phunyguy> crobbins: check files in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[05:32] <DalekSec> phunyguy: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ rather, or inxi -r
[05:35] <phunyguy> yep, sorry
[05:35] <phunyguy> went straight from memory
[05:36] <crobbins> hkrrsx, phunyguy DalekSec - so, based on that, I try something like `grep -r webupd8team /etc/apt/apt.conf.d`
[05:36] <crobbins> unfortunately, it doesn't find it
[05:37] <crobbins> tried the same with sources.list.d as well, but no luck
[05:37] <crobbins> and i absolutely have that ppa
[05:37] <phunyguy> I apologize, but what is your end goal here?
[05:37] <phunyguy> might be a better way to accomplish.
[05:37] <hkrrsx> crobbins: http://www.maketecheasier.com/search-manage-ppas-with-y-ppa-manager/
[05:38] <Tim3> would you consider kernel 3.2.29  new or old?
[05:38] <Tim3> ?
[05:38] <hkrrsx> crobbins: Please also answer phunyguy's question
[05:38] <MtIbtiex_> hkrrsx Flannel  ok it seems to work but, how to add app there? where to find apps executables?
[05:38] <crobbins> i'm trying to write a simple script that can automate setting up the environment, and i'd like to be able to check if the ppa is installed before trying to add it
[05:38] <MtIbtiex_> where are executables stored in LINUX
[05:38] <MtIbtiex_> ?
[05:39] <MtIbtiex_> .exe files where
[05:39] <crobbins> adding the webupd8team ppa prompts you through the process regardless of whether you already have it
[05:39] <phunyguy> crobbins: just do a remove and add.
[05:39] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: You can either view the files installed by the package and that'll tell you, or you can type `which PROGRAM` and that'll give you the full path of 'program'.  Most are in /usr/bin/
[05:39] <phunyguy> if not there, the remove does nothing.
[05:39] <phunyguy> not really losing anything.
[05:39] <crobbins> phunyguy - yeah, but i'd rather not bug the user with prompts
[05:39] <crobbins> the user being myself
[05:40] <crobbins> i just want to automate it
[05:40] <phunyguy> a silent fail is not a prompt.
[05:40] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel what to enter in "starting directory"
[05:40] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel  working directory*
[05:40] <crobbins> it's not a silent fail, it's passing it since the dependency is already there
[05:40] <crobbins> so it'll move on
[05:40] <phunyguy> crobbins: what are you talking about?
[05:40] <MtIbtiex_> i dont like .exe's in linux dont have .exe or any extension,  they just plain name
[05:40] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: No idea.  Probably your own home folder, so /home/username/ (where username is your username)
[05:40] <phunyguy> crobbins: you want to add a repo, but not if already there, right?
[05:41] <crobbins> phunyguy, yeah sorry, i misunderstood your last statement
[05:41] <phunyguy> crobbins: so have it remove the ppa, which you can have fail silently if it isn't there, then add.
[05:41] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: that's more of your personal preference than anything else, but your home folder is a good default.
[05:41] <phunyguy> removing and adding without a sudo apt-get update is not harmful.
[05:41] <crobbins> phunyguy, but when i add it'll prompt for the java license and such
[05:42] <crobbins> and i'd rather just skip that
[05:42] <phunyguy> crobbins: java license for a ppa?
[05:42] <crobbins> if the ppa is installed
[05:42] <crobbins> yeah
[05:42] <crobbins> webupd8team
[05:42] <phunyguy> I think you are mixing commands.
[05:42] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel hkrrsx it king of works but i CANT DELETE items that was already added (not by me)
[05:42] <MtIbtiex_> kind*
[05:42] <phunyguy> removing and adding a personal package archive will not prompt for a license acceptance.  Removing and readding java will.
[05:43] <crobbins> phunyguy, oh you're probably right
[05:43] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: That's because you're running it as your user.  You'd need administrative privledges to remove items (because it affects the whole machine), just like on windows.
[05:43] <phunyguy> been known to happen :)
[05:43] <crobbins> phunyguy, i guess it's really the `apt-get install` that i'm trying to skip, but that'll happen automatically
[05:43] <phunyguy> yes.
[05:43] <phunyguy> :)
[05:43] <crobbins> ha
[05:43] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel on windows im always on admin,  maybe i will do that on linux too
[05:44] <crobbins> phunyguy, thanks for saving me from a rabbit hole there
[05:44] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel hkrrsx now how to refresh my start menu so it shows new items?
[05:44] <phunyguy> crobbins: no problem
[05:44] <HewloThere> Hia! I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Win and have another hard drive to install it on but when I click install alongside Windows 8, I can only choose my external hard drive and not my second hard drive?
[05:45] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel i get error when try to run it with sudo
[05:45] <MtIbtiex_> COULD NOT OPEN X DISPLAY
[05:45] <MtIbtiex_> should have login into desktop as root
[05:45] <crobbins> phunyguy: is there any reason to not just do `add-apt-repository` instead of removing it first?
[05:46] <phunyguy> crobbins: not sure there
[05:46] <phunyguy> never tried it
[05:46] <phunyguy> worst case, it adds it twice
[05:46] <crobbins> phunyguy, although, performance could be a reason to skip adding the ppa
[05:46] <MtIbtiex_> ERROR
[05:46] <MtIbtiex_> help
[05:47] <khan_> hey guys
[05:47] <crobbins> phunyguy, i'd rather not wait for the whole keyserver deal
[05:47] <MtIbtiex_> No protocol specified
[05:47] <MtIbtiex_> cant open x windows
[05:47] <MtIbtiex_> gtk warning: cannot open display
[05:47] <MtIbtiex_> with "sudo menulibre"
[05:48] <phunyguy> crobbins: either way, that's why I suggested the remove first.
[05:48] <phunyguy> pretty easy to tell if it is there or not.
[05:49] <Flannel> MtIbtiex_: try `gksu menulibre`
[05:49] <phunyguy> I have to ask though, how often are you running this script?
[05:49] <MtIbtiex_> Flannel ok worked
[05:49] <HewloThere> Hia!     Thank you.
[06:17] <belton12> ubuntu 14.04 detecting my usb modem but isn't showing it in network manager applet.please help
[06:18] <belton12> please help somebody!!
[06:18] <Peace-> mmm
[06:19] <Peace-> belton12: lsusb | pastebiit ?
[06:19] <Peace-> belton12: lsusb | pastebinit ?
[06:20] <belton12> peace:Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[06:20] <belton12> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[06:20] <belton12> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 5986:0543 Acer, Inc
[06:20] <belton12> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[06:20] <belton12> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[06:20] <belton12> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
[06:20] <Peace-> belton12: you need to install pastebinit
[06:21] <Peace-> belton12: that will install a tool to paste correctly in the channel
[06:23] <belton12> peace:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10693452/
[06:23] <Peace-> belton12: guess it's this Bus 003 Device 005: ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[06:23] <Peace-> right ?
[06:24] <belton12> yup!
[06:24] <belton12> it is detected but not appearing in network manager
[06:24] <Peace-> mmm ubuntu version belton12
[06:24] <belton12> ubuntu 14.04
[06:24] <Tim3> does huawei makes reliable hardwares?
[06:24] <belton12> lts
[06:25] <Tim3> trusty tahr?
[06:25] <belton12> yup!
[06:25] <Peace-> belton12: i am not sure but you need search that string on internet i found an article where it says
[06:25] <Peace-> belton12: install usb_modeswitch
[06:26] <Peace-> belton12: btw try to read this , it's not official btw , so ....
[06:26] <Peace-> belton12: be carefull http://www.geekride.com/huawei-e173-on-ubuntu/
[06:27] <belton12> peace:but i assume ubuntu 14.04 does have usb_modeswitch by default.
[06:27] <Peace-> belton12: dpkg -l | grep usb_modeswitch
[06:28] <Peace-> belton12: sorry dpkg -l | grep modeswitch
[06:30] <belton12> peace:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10693477/
[06:31] <Peace-> belton12: so you have it
[06:31] <belton12> yup!!!
[06:32] <belton12> Peace:everybody who are using this modem have this problem in latest LTS modem manager.
[06:33] <Peace-> well belton12 try to find out some articles from internet i am sorry but i see a ltos of problem with that
[06:33] <Peace-> and it's would be painfull
[06:33] <belton12> Peace:yup!!
[06:34] <belton12> ya it's very painfull
[06:34] <Peace->  belton12 btw right now i am using kubuntu instead of ubunt and i am not the right person to find you out a solution
[06:35] <belton12> Peace:would you have any recommendation??
[06:35] <Peace-> belton12: first of all i would like search on the forum and the wiki
[06:35] <Peace-> then i would google it
[06:36] <Peace-> !wiki
[06:36] <belton12> okay!!! i would do the same!!
[06:36] <Peace-> the second on e
[06:36] <Peace-> belton12: sorry but like i said i use kubuntu
[06:36] <Peace-> right now
[06:36] <belton12> okay!!
[06:36] <belton12> no worries
[06:40] <Peace-> belton12: woudl like to do rfkill list
[06:40] <Peace-> belton12: just to see if it's blocked or no?
[06:42] <belton12> Peace:ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10693517/
[06:43] <Peace-> belton12: mmm no nothing
[06:43] <Peace-> i was corious
[06:43] <belton12> okay!
[06:43] <Peace-> *curious
[06:44] <Amm0n|> belton12, maybe this is worth a try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2224305&p=13098618#post13098618
[06:49] <ariel__> helo
[06:49] <priya> hi
[06:50] <priya> heelllooooo
[06:50] <priya> hi
[06:51] <priya> hhi
[06:51] <cfhowlett> priya, your question???
[06:51] <priya> what is  bingo
[06:51] <cfhowlett> priya, ask google about bingo
[06:52] <priya> what do you mean by bingo
[06:52] <priya> what is this site for
[06:53] <priya> ?????????
[06:53] <cfhowlett> priya> what is  bingo
[06:53] <priya> dont know
[06:54] <cfhowlett> priya, stop playing childish games.  ask your ubuntu support question or go elsewhere
[06:54] <cfhowlett> priya, then you probably should not be here
[06:54] <priya> what is x chat for . that is my question
[06:55] <cfhowlett> priya, ask google
[06:55] <priya> this one also ?
[06:55] <priya> y i shold not be here
[06:56] <cfhowlett> priya, if you don't know why you're here, you shouldn't be here.
[06:56] <priya> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[06:56] <SkpS> X chat is an internet relay chat client. You can use it to get "techinical" support.
[06:56] <cfhowlett> also, no childish games here. /ignore = on
[06:56] <priya> ok
[06:57] <priya> then i have a question
[06:57] <SkpS> Don't just F with it.
[06:57] <vince_the_ponder> =) well thats an easy fix thanks for the reminder
[06:57] <SkpS> Go
[06:59] <priya> when i'm trying to connect to an open wifi near by   im my linux os it is not connecting    but    when i connect to the same wifi in my same laptop in my windows it is connecting
[07:00] <shintafabio> hi
[07:00] <priya> no replay    ...?
[07:00] <priya> YA
[07:01] <shintafabio> hola
[07:01] <vince_the_ponder> hi
[07:01] <shintafabio> argentina
[07:01] <priya> BONJOUR
[07:01] <priya> CAN YOU HELPME  PLZZZZZ
[07:01] <cfhowlett> shintafabio, your question????
[07:02] <SkpS> How are you connecting in Linux. And does it give an error?
[07:02] <shintafabio> cuestion
[07:02] <cfhowlett> !es | shintafabio
[07:02] <priya> WHEN I CONNECT MY LINUX OS TO WIFI  ITS NOT CONNECTING
[07:02] <SkpS> Priya, don't do ALL CAPS... bad form.
[07:03] <shintafabio> #ubuntu-es
[07:04] <cfhowlett> shintafabio, " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas)
[07:04] <Flannel> priya: please don't use all caps here, it's considered yelling (and poor form) and it won't help you get support any quicker either.
[07:04] <shintafabio> join #ubuntu-es
[07:05] <priya> F U GUYS
[07:05] <priya> BYE
[07:05]  * cfhowlett is shocked, SHOCKED I say! that priya turned out to be a ...
[07:05] <cfhowlett> you know
[07:06] <Flannel> cfhowlett: No need for the peanut gallery.
[07:06] <jandor_> sup?
[07:06] <cfhowlett> Flannel, fair enough.  sorry.
[07:06] <cfhowlett> jandor_, your ubuntu question???
[07:06] <vince_the_ponder> would this be the appropriate place to ask a questiona bout raspberry pi performance?
[07:07] <cfhowlett> vince_the_ponder, raspberry has an irc channel
[07:07] <vince_the_ponder> #raspberry ?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> vince_the_ponder, that'd be my guess but
[07:08] <cfhowlett> !alis | vince_the_ponder
[07:09] <rww> it's #raspberrypi
[07:09] <cfhowlett> vince_the_ponder, this ^^^ ;thanks rww
[07:10] <Caleb--> did anyone else here have a recent Mono update that screwed up some apps?
[07:12] <hamsies> im trying to set up static ip in ubuntu server. this is what i have http://imgur.com/QJidITr do i need networkmanager.conf ?
[07:15] <vince_the_ponder> hamsies, its my understanding that the file in the image would work whether or not X server is running, so network manager conf file is not necessary and may interfere with other file settings
[07:16] <hamsies> yes, thats what i thought. why is it not working?
[07:16] <hamsies> im not getting a static ip. i restarted the server too
[07:17] <AfterDarkness> hello anyone knows why this 'sudo find . -regextype posix-extended -regex "\.config$"' returns nothing?
[07:17] <vince_the_ponder> hamsies, try doing a "sudo service network-manager restart"
[07:18] <hamsies> vince_the_ponder, http://imgur.com/uyjVrwE
[07:18] <AfterDarkness> i've executed this command on my home dir
[07:18] <perdiger> anyone using nitroshare?
[07:20] <asc232> AfterDarkness, may be 'sudo find . -regextype posix-extended -regex ".*\.config$"'
[07:21] <vince_the_ponder> hamsies, there are two lines you need to add/uncomment, look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/214170/whats-the-default-etc-network-interfaces
[07:21] <AfterDarkness> asc232, yeah this also works 'sudo find . -regextype posix-extended -regex "\./\.config$"'
[07:21] <AfterDarkness> ty
[07:23] <hamsies> okie added them. lets see
[07:28] <AndrewMock> What's the difference between the trusty and tusty-update repos?
[07:29] <AndrewMock> Bugfixes-only in the fomer and bugfixes+featurechanges in the latter?
[07:32] <bender|> how do I remove the on-screen keyboard I have at login?
[07:33] <bender|> it's irritating because, it blocks my UI-choice menu (which is kinda long).
[07:40] <Flokithar> hi
[07:41] <belton12> sleeping time!
[07:41] <drew__> I cant get any video settings to show up in nvidia x server settings
[07:46] <lakmal__> hi’
[07:58] <love3> Is unity finally good yet?
[07:58] <ubik^> yes it is.
[07:58] <ubik^> very useful.
[07:58] <belton12> yup
[08:00] <love3> I wanted ubuntu to stick with gnome, but since the latest gnome I think something faster is needed like anything is faster
[08:01] <belton12> unity is also quiet fast...
[08:01] <love3> Fifteen fps
[08:01] <cfhowlett> love3 see ubuntu mate
[08:01] <love3> Can you use ccsm with it?
[08:02] <cfhowlett> !mate | love3
[08:02] <love3> Ooh it's mate
[08:03] <cfhowlett> http://mate-desktop.org/
[08:03] <love3> I lot of distros have crippled compiz for some reason
[08:04] <belton12> unity doesn't woobly effect...
[08:05] <belton12> doesn't have woobly effect in his compiz config manager.
[08:07] <Amm0n|> belton12, did you try the solution to your modem problem in the link i posted?
[08:07] <bojan> Can anybody solve this problem "I have configured NFS on ubuntu and i can mount the shared partition on the same computer but cant mount in the computer connected in the network...Saying error as :mount.nfs:server access denied while mounting"..But i can see the shared directory in the network computer by the command "sghowmount -e <IP_ADDRESS>"
[08:07] <belton12> Amm0n:yup!! it's working fine.
[08:09] <belton12> Amm0n:just added few vandor provided ID in USBmodeSwitch.conf file and rerun the script.and okay.
[08:10] <Amm0n|> belton12, nice.. but you should think about buying a better supported one
[08:11] <belton12> Amm0n:yes!! i will definitely buy a good one.thanks buddy for your help.
[08:17] <bagginsDK> Hello guys! I would like to know if it is possible to change the default java compiler. I want to use JDK instead of openJDK
[08:20] <belton12> bagginsDK:yup you can do that.download the .tar.gz file from Oracle's website.
[08:21] <bagginsDK> belton12. Thank you. How is it possible to set my ubuntu system use JDK instead OpenJDK?
[08:22] <paranoidandroid> I'm running Ubuntu on a Mac.  My keyboard backlight does not work.  How can I go about enabling it?
[08:23] <paranoidandroid> I've searched around but cannot seem to find anything...
[08:23] <Amm0n|> bagginsDK, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:24] <belton12> bagginsDK:yup you got it!!!
[08:25] <gry> paranoidandroid: mention your hardware detail please :-)
[08:25] <bagginsDK> Danke!
[08:26] <paranoidandroid> MacBook Pro 2013 Edition
[08:27] <paranoidandroid> The backlights are the same across all of the macbookpro devices
[08:27] <paranoidandroid> For the record, I hate macs and this setup isn't for me (so don't be making fun :P :) )
[08:28] <aaas> can anyone tell me why my rsync command 'rsync -P 4442 -a user@server:/etc/* /home/user/etcfiles'  gives the error 'unexpected remote arg: user@server:/etc/*  same thing seems to happen with /home/user instead of  /etc
[08:30] <bojan> aaas:use sudo before using rsync the / folders
[08:30] <gry> paranoidandroid: is ``pommed'' package installed?
[08:31] <aaas> bojan....well im rsyncing from a remote server...but i should still have read access to /etc i would think...but either way  adding sudo  gives the same error and /home/user gives the same error
[08:31] <paranoidandroid> No, just installed.  Will restart and report back...
[08:31] <bojan> aaas:oops
[08:31] <gry> hmm
[08:34] <paranoidandroid> I'm back.  The backlight still does not work.
[08:34] <paranoidandroid> Have the package installed, restarted...
[08:36] <kowalski91> hi, guys!
[08:36] <kowalski91> why linux still uses irc?
[08:37] <kowalski91> is not irc too old?
[08:37] <paranoidandroid> Went offline for a moment, if you said something to me could you repeat it?
[08:37] <aaas> kowalski91 what do you mean linux using irc?
[08:38] <gry> paranoidandroid: er ok, checking
[08:38] <paranoidandroid> Thanks :)
[08:39] <kowalski91> aaas> linux users still use irc as preferred comunnication platform
[08:39] <mattarse> kowalski91 - it's free, it works, and does what it needs to
[08:40] <piglit__> need to scan the network for a printer how do i do that ?
[08:40] <aaas> kowalski91 it's a great option...realtime support....even stackexchange doesn't do that
[08:40] <piglit__> in the console
[08:41] <gry> paranoidandroid: there is a slightly brutal means to do this in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Lucid#Keyboard_backlight_without_pommed, not much information on the web otherwise
[08:41] <kowalski91> mattarse but it means confuse for newcomers like me lol
[08:41] <paranoidandroid> Alright, thanks for trying.  I will look into this, have to go now.  :)
[08:41] <aaas> kowalski91 maybe stackexchange would be better for someone like you?
[08:41] <paranoidandroid> Hopefully will work
[08:41] <gry> kowalski91: hi
[08:41] <gry> kowalski91: ubuntu has support over irc, mailing list, and the forums
[08:43] <kowalski91> what is stackexchange? im new here and i'm confused
[08:43] <kowalski91> lol
[08:43] <kowalski91> sorry
[08:43] <aaas> kowalski91 google it...there's an ubuntu channel ...it's a question and answer system where answers are voted on
[08:44] <mattarse> kowalski91: But what would you suggest for a replacement htat doesn't already exist and get used? Stackexchange - http://bit.ly/1EfeRNe
[08:44] <MtIbtiex_> HOW TO USE CLONEZILLA TO copy one disk to other
thank you! i will check it out
[08:45] <aaas> kowalski91 http://askubuntu.com/
 thank you for the link
[08:45] <mattarse> :) np
[08:46] <MtIbtiex_> kowalski91 karol wojtyła pedofilował dzieci
 stackexchange seems to be confused, too
[08:47] <kowalski91> lol
[08:48] <aaas> kowalski91  you need to search for what you're looking for
 thank you! it seems confused to a Brazilian like me
[08:49] <kowalski91> lol
[08:49] <explodes> Hello! So I've added ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa  to my repository, but the package nvidia-graphics-drivers-349 is nowhere to be found,  what am i missing??
[08:49] <aaas> kowalski91 ah...hmmm there must be brazilian support channels....ubuntu is very popular
[08:50] <celexi> explodes i would recommend you to learn how to install the nvidia drivers from their installer
[08:50] <celexi> on ubuntu is better than those ppas
[08:50] <celexi> those ppas can easily break stuff
[08:50] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 papiez pedziu
 there are! =)
[08:51] <bojan> Can anybody solve this problem "I have configured NFS on ubuntu and i can mount the shared partition on the same computer but cant mount in the computer connected in the network...Saying error as :mount.nfs:server access denied while mounting"..But i can see the shared directory in the network computer by the command "sghowmount -e <IP_ADDRESS>"
[08:51] <kowalski91> so, are you all developers?
[08:51] <explodes> celexi: I've been installing all of the previous versions (340, 341, etc) with this ppa, but I'd never noticed that they provide an umbrella package, but it doesn't show up with apt-get
[08:51] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 yes, just like the pope
[08:52] <explodes> celexi: I've been installing each of the packages provided by the umbrella individually
[08:52] <celexi> well explodes, the regular installer - you blacklist noveau, geneterate a new init image so that it makes it without th enoveau since its blacklisted, reboot into text, run installer - done!
 stackexchange seems so confused like reddit! lol
[08:53] <celexi> that may seem more complicated but its far safer and better than using a random ppa to install the drivers
[08:53] <explodes> celexi: yea I tried that originally, it's sixes really
[08:53] <aaas> kowalski91 sounds like a language barrier...you need to find the brazilian versions ...not sure where those are...use google.br?
 yes, we use google.com.br =)
[08:54] <explodes> celexi: the edgers ppa has been (and hopefully continues to be) working for me, if there is a bad driver, i can typically always revert in text mode. I'm just wondering why this package isn't showing up
[08:55] <aaas> kowalski91 then google for 'forum de suporte ubuntu' ;)
[08:55] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 puta di armadillo
 thank you very much!
[08:56] <explodes> It's weird that after following their instructions, the packages they have named aren't available
[08:57] <explodes> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers
 what do you think about ubuntu 14.04 lts? is it running fine?
[08:58] <Amm0n|> explodes, you are on utopic and did apt-get update?
[08:58] <aaas> kowalski91 it is for me ...but i use it mostly as a server
[08:58] <ablest1980> fine for me
[08:59] <celexi> explodes why would you add an unknown party in the process of that and use up so much time debugging it instead of a simple installer?
[08:59] <celexi> just a personal opinion
 are you using os x?
[09:00] <aaas> kowalski91 windows for a workstation, ubuntu/debian for servers
[09:00] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 puta di wojtyła
[09:00] <explodes> celexi: it's not really unknown, its edgers
 good. why do you prefer windows as workstation? =)
[09:01] <explodes> celexi: and the apt-get process is not more complicated than a "simple installer"
[09:01] <explodes> celexi: that's how i see it
[09:01] <explodes> celexi: I'm on the bleeding edge man, living dangerously
[09:02] <celexi> hehe understood
[09:02] <aaas> kowalski91 it runs the propritory software...if i need to run something in linux I can just foward X...so this way i can run anything (except osx, which I guess i could run in a virtualbox)...but too many people play the 'just use software X instead' ...i dont have to do that
[09:03] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 puta di brasil
[09:03] <celexi> osx is pretty bad on virtual machines performance wise
understood
 have you already seen that video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ8ek-6ccc
[09:07] <kowalski91> LOL
 risitas is the best engineer apple ever had! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ8ek-6ccc
[09:08] <kowalski91> LOL
[09:09] <aaas> haha yes i saw that
[09:09] <svetlana> kowalski91: i left for a few minutes. stackexchange and forums support has to be done using a web browser. mailing list using an email client. irc using a chat cient.
[09:09] <svetlana> kowalski91: yes, the web is rather young (forums and stackexchange are young).
 i can't stop laughing LOL
[09:10] <svetlana> kowalski91: mailing lists and irc predate the web (the entire http thing) i think.
[09:10] <svetlana> which started at 1992 or so.
 thank you for your explanations
[09:11] <svetlana> you're most welcome; and welcome to the channel as well
[09:11] <Mtldtiex> HELP!!!!!!!!
 i'm using irc on firefox just now =)
[09:11] <svetlana> with?
[09:11] <Mtldtiex> HOW to clone linux drive to other drive
[09:11] <Mtldtiex> clone/copy whatever
[09:11] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, clonezilla
[09:11] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ thats what im trying but its shit, doesnt work
 thank you again! =)
[09:12] <svetlana> kowalski91: if you open the addon manager of firefox, you can find and install chatzilla there. you might find it more comfortable to use than webchat.freenode.net .
[09:12] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, try dd
[09:12] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ tried multiple ways, and end up hanging on boot (on new hdd)
[09:12] <kowalski91> you guys are awesome!
[09:12] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^   dd with livecd?
[09:12] <svetlana> yup be careful
[09:12] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, yeah
[09:12] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, hanging on boot?
[09:12] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ yes i cloned old hdd to new hdd with boot and everything
[09:13] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ but when i boot from new hdd it hangs
[09:13] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, it booted and hanged on the splash?
[09:13] <Mtldtiex> i only see one line of text
[09:13] <Mtldtiex> on splash
[09:13] <Mtldtiex> no
[09:13] <Mtldtiex> i just see one text line
[09:13] <EriC^^> what's it say?
 thank you very much!
[09:14] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ 0AAD Loading ....................................................................................................................
[09:15] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, ok, try sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY conv=sync,noerror bs=4M
 do you use ubuntu as your primary os?
[09:15] <svetlana> yes
[09:15] <svetlana> at home, that is
[09:15] <svetlana> this means every evening & all weekends
[09:16] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ ok but i want to copy from bigger drive to smaller, will work? i only care about that first data that second drive will fit
 very good! which version?
[09:16] <svetlana> 14.10
[09:17] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, no, you can't if you want you can copy the data with rsync -av and then chroot into it and install the bootloader
[09:17] <svetlana> it's very customized though -- far from stock version (i've not done a reinstall for over 5 years)
[09:17] <svetlana> hm
[09:17] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ how to with "rsync -av"?
 is it running without big bugs?
[09:17] <Mtldtiex> and how to install bootloader
[09:17] <svetlana> yep it's running fine
[09:18] <Mtldtiex> help
 14.04 works fine on my laptop, too :)
[09:19] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, make the partitions on the new hdd, then copy the data except for /sys /proc /run /dev ( those are virtual filesystems ), use rsync -av <source> <destination>
[09:20] <Mtldtiex> what software to copy data
[09:20] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, you have to edit /etc/fstab with the new uuid's , and also chroot into the installation and run grub-install
[09:20] <Mtldtiex> thats too complicated
[09:20] <Mtldtiex> :(
[09:20] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, it's pretty easy
 how i change my nick's collor? =/
[09:20] <Mtldtiex> i want something with few clicks
[09:21] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, rsync copies the data, it's like cp but does a checksum too
[09:21] <EriC^^> among other stuff it does
[09:21] <l9> Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:21] <l9> anyone?
[09:22] <svetlana> kowalski91: :)
[09:22] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, you could install ubuntu as usual to the new hdd
[09:23] <EriC^^> and use dpkg --get-selections on your old one to get the package lists and dpkg --set-selections on the new one to install the same packages there too
[09:23] <Mtldtiex> ...
[09:23] <Mtldtiex> that option not acceptable
 i love Australia!
 it's a beautiful and organized country :)
 where are you? haha
[09:25] <Anonym> hello guys
[09:25] <svetlana> kowalski91: (people tend to ask me to only discuss ubuntu here and go to #ubuntu-offtopic for other things) but thanks :)
[09:25] <svetlana> hi Anonym
[09:25] <Anonym> hello
[09:26] <Anonym> svetlana from?
 oh, sorry, it's my first time here
[09:26] <Anonym> e
[09:26] <svetlana> Anonym, I'm from about 5 years back, missed a lot of things since then
[09:26] <Xanather> kowalski91 tony abbott is so shit he can't organize anything
[09:26] <svetlana> kowalski91: it's alright :)
[09:26] <Anonym> I am new
[09:26] <svetlana> same here
[09:26] <Anonym> I will try to learn hackin
[09:26] <svetlana> sounds good
[09:26] <EriC^^> oh boy..
[09:27] <l9> hahahahaah
[09:27] <Anonym> someone want to join my hack team? xD
[09:27] <svetlana> there is no team, everything is copyleft -> www.copyleft.org
[09:27] <Xanather> i don't think anyone does im sorry
[09:27] <Anonym> ok
[09:27] <Anonym> :D
[09:27] <l9> Anonym what are we hacking
[09:28] <Anonym> me and my team
[09:28] <Xanather> the NSA'
[09:28] <Anonym> will try take down some websites
[09:28] <svetlana> don't confuse him, give him time to visit the URL please :)
[09:28] <svetlana> Anonym, wrong answer
[09:28] <Anonym> swtlana
[09:28] <Anonym> ?
[09:28] <Anonym> we will hack
[09:28] <Anonym> we make a team
[09:28] <Anonym> Not here, I just searched for people
[09:28] <l9> Anonym frack i was hopeing too hack my microwave so i need that damb tinfoil hat i made
[09:29] <kowalski91> why mr. stallman is communist? he does not like ubuntu
[09:29] <Anonym> l9 are you good with pc?
[09:29] <svetlana> Anonym, that's not hacking, that's cracking, and hacking is better
[09:29] <l9> wanna see a magick trick ?
[09:29] <svetlana> Anonym, see https://www.stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html
[09:29] <svetlana> Anonym, I suggested others to not hurry you. please take your time
[09:29] <Anonym> how do I find someone ip adress?
[09:29] <l9> hahahahahahahahahah omf
[09:30] <svetlana> Anonym, I will stop talking with you until you show that you read at least a line from the stuff I linked, or 5 minutes pass, whichever earlier
[09:30] <Anonym> svetlana how old?
[09:31] <Anonym> i did read it
[09:31] <Anonym> I leave this channel bye
[09:31] <Anonym> hey
[09:32] <AnonymousWS> haha
[09:32] <AnonymousWS> #ubuntu
[09:32] <AnonymousWS> are we using irssi here?
[09:32] <l9> svetlana: can i play
[09:32] <shark> yes
[09:32] <l9> pretty please4
[09:32] <svetlana> "play"?
[09:33] <svetlana> (it's not a 'no', it's that I just have no idea what you're referring to :-) )
[09:33] <kowalski91> in Latin America, most of people links Linux to communism
[09:34] <l9> yeah but hell one dosent talk about hacking on open chan unless you wanna be hurt
[09:35] <svetlana> teehee
[09:35] <svetlana> I tried to be gentle :)
[09:35] <svetlana> hi ubuntuser13
[09:35] <ubuntuser13> svetlana: hi
[09:36] <Mtldtiex> svetlana yes i was, but cant tell you as they kicked me out of #antispammeta
 what do you think about Linux and communism?
[09:36] <svetlana> Mtldtiex: one sec
[09:37] <svetlana> kowalski91: positive about both
 mmm, why?
[09:37] <ubuntuser13> svetlana: do you know me? i didn't understand why you type hi ubuntuser13.
[09:38] <antonio_> I need to use Turbotax..how can I get it working on firefox?
[09:38] <svetlana> kowalski91: low resource usage in both cases
[09:38] <svetlana> ubuntuser13: nope, don't worry bout it
[09:38] <svetlana> antonio_: hi
[09:38] <l9> svetlana gentel when someone ask how to get ip too hack and you want too take down web servers, yeay a new script kiddie is born. why be gentle
[09:38] <svetlana> antonio_: what does it work on?
[09:38] <svetlana> l9: i try to convert them
[09:38] <ubuntuser13> svetlana: ok
[09:39] <l9> svetlana i do convert them, the smurf will show them the way
 good point. do want Australia become communist?
[09:40] <svetlana> yes
[09:40] <Mtldtiex> i connected SECOND HDD to stupid linux, booted, AND I DONT SEE IT IN FILE BROWSER
[09:40] <antonio_> svetlana: it doesn't work on Firefox
[09:40] <svetlana> i'm looking at turbotax now
[09:40] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, type sudo parted -l
[09:41] <antonio_> ARGH!
[09:41] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ i see it with sudo fdisk -l
[09:41] <Mtldtiex> but how to access files
 but communism share poverty!
[09:41] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mointpoint
[09:42] <svetlana> antonio_: does it work in another browser ?
[09:42] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ what? i need to some magic mounting? on windows you dont...
[09:42] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ AND NOW i can make new directory with file manager in /mnt/ directory
[09:42] <Mtldtiex> PERMISSION DENIED!!!!!!
[09:42] <Mtldtiex> i cant*
[09:43] <svetlana> Mtldtiex: he is trying to understand whether the disk is recognized by the system or not; please show output of that command without doing extra steps
[09:43] <Mtldtiex> on windows i dont need permisions on MY PC
[09:43] <Mtldtiex> svetlana yes it is
[09:43] <antonio_> svetlana: nope..doesn't look like there is any linux support
[09:43] <svetlana> er, I lag, I just got that extra line
[09:43] <Mtldtiex> svetlana i see two hdds
[09:43] <Mtldtiex> want to get files
[09:43] <Mtldtiex> now
[09:44] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, are you using unity?
[09:44] <hamsies> im looking at /etc/resolv.conf and it says not to edit by hand as it will be overwritten. how else would i edit it?
[09:44] <svetlana> antonio_: i would ask turbotax people about it, if it doesn't work in Wine
[09:44] <hamsies> im getting a Error -2 Name or service not known. i think it has to do with resolving the ip address internally
[09:45] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ no
[09:45] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, what are you using?
[09:45] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ i mounted it to existing DIRECTORY and files are there
[09:45] <Mtldtiex> now to install grub, how to
[09:45] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ i use lxde, but i hate it
[09:45] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, so you rsync'd the files over?
[09:46] <ubuntuser13> Mtldtiex: How to add a second hard drive to an already installed Xubuntu 14.04?
[09:46] <ablest1980> https://www.winehq.org/
[09:46] <ablest1980> ^
[09:46] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ i copied them with that clonezilla trash before
[09:46] <Mtldtiex> ubuntuser13 ask EriC^^
[09:46] <ubuntuser13> mtldtiex: http://askubuntu.com/questions/488213/how-to-add-a-second-hard-drive-to-an-already-installed-xubuntu-14-04
[09:46] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ should i delete that special directories now? if yes, why?
[09:46] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, no
[09:46] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ i copied entire parition contents
[09:47] <ubuntuser13> Mtldtiex: sorry i'm actually trying to give a link.
[09:47] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:47] <Mtldtiex> are you sure?
[09:47] <EriC^^> yes
[09:47] <Mtldtiex> what that does
[09:48] <EriC^^> it mount binds the virtual filesystems from your current ubuntu to the second mounted ubuntu
[09:48] <EriC^^> ( so you can install grub from the chroot )
[09:48] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ wont it affect my running OS and hdd?
[09:48] <EriC^^> no
[09:49] <ubuntuser13> Mtldtiex: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125257/how-do-i-add-an-additional-hard-drive?lq=1
[09:49] <EriC^^> ubuntuser13, he's trying to clone his installation
[09:49] <l9> EriC^^: chroot same as jail in bsd ?
[09:50] <ubuntuser13> Eric^^: Sorry!
[09:50] <shark> wc
[09:50] <EriC^^> l9, somewhat yes
[09:50] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ i tells me that mnt directories dont exist?
[09:51] <Mtldtiex> i assume i should change path to where i mounted it, EriC^^?
[09:51] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, did you mount the installation to /mnt ?
[09:51] <EriC^^> yes
[09:51] <Mtldtiex> . /mnt/cdrom
[09:51] <EriC^^> ok
[09:51] <l9> df -h
[09:51]  * shark
[09:51]  * shark
[09:51] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ it worked
[09:52] <Mtldtiex> what now?
[09:52] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, type sudo chroot /mnt/cdrom
[09:52] <ackpacket> anyone know of a screenshot program that will let me select parts of the screen?  I don't really want too many frills outside of that
[09:52] <EriC^^> ackpacket, shutter
[09:52] <SCHAAP137> shutter is the best
[09:52] <ackpacket> Seems a bit like feature overload
[09:53] <EriC^^> :D
[09:53] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ what now?
[09:53] <SCHAAP137> it only seems that way
[09:53] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX
[09:53] <EriC^^> ( where sdX is your new hdd )
[09:53] <tos-1> ackpacket: import from imagemagick
[09:54] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ ok it completed
[09:55] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, ok, type update-grub
[09:55] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ ok
[09:56] <EriC^^> Mtldtiex, ok, type exit
[09:56] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ typed
[09:56] <EriC^^> ok you can restart and try it
[09:57] <ackpacket> I'll give shutter a shot
[09:57] <ackpacket> thanks for the rec
[10:00]  * shark
[10:03] <kowalski91> agente smith, quanto tempo! você sumiu da comunidade do hardware! rs
 ainda está trabalhando no pc linux os?
[10:04] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ OK I CHECKED WORKED PERFECT TOTAL. YOUR EXPERT. will use your services in future
[10:05] <Mtldtiex> EriC^^ but since i lost so much time earlier for that thing, i better stick away from linux
[10:07] <kowalski91> Mtldtiex is rude! He called me "whore"!
[10:08] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 possibly. which word was it?
 you called "puta de wojtila"!
 you don't respect our saint and dead Pope!
[10:11] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 what is "wojtila"?
[10:11] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 wojtyla, nic go kurwa nie zatrzyma
[10:12] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 puta pope!
[10:12] <spotofbother> Hello, if I were to install Vivid Vervet (VV) BETA 2 (minimal install + packages I want) now, would I be able to continue using my desktop as it is when VV gets releases in April? umm what I'm asking is whether when VV is released, do all the packages get rebuilt/re-versioned and i would in fact need to do a full dist-upgrade instead of just a few updates to packages?
 you're a rude guy
[10:12] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 agree
[10:13] <Flannel> spotofbother: a "full dist-upgrade" is simply an update to packages.  But to answer the core of your question, if you install the beta version now, and do regular package updates, then when it's released, you'll have the released version.
[10:13] <spotofbother> Flannel: excellent...many thanks
[10:14] <Mtldtiex> QUESTION: what happens when ubuntu 14.X or any version is no longer MAINTAINED? do you have to make clean install of newer ubuntu? or can you "upgrade" from ubuntu 7.x to 14.x?
 go away! jihadists are coming after you!
[10:15] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 pope believers dont do anything to people that dont respect their pope
[10:15] <Mtldtiex> im not scared
 Jihad John is coming after you!
[10:18] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 John Paul Di Secundo incoming
[10:19] <Mtldtiex> to rape me
[10:19] <Quantos> Clean it up
[10:19] <Quantos> You idiots think this belongs in a help chat?
[10:19] <Kartagis> !ops
[10:20] <Mtldtiex> Quantos we need help in setting pope wallpaper on ubuntu
[10:21] <Quantos> Hehehe
[10:21] <Kartagis> ikonia: cheers
 Mtldtiex started that!
[10:21] <ikonia> ok - enough now
[10:21] <ikonia> all sorted
[10:21] <Quantos> I'm not sure, I was reading
[10:21] <Quantos> I just looked up at my display
[10:21] <Kartagis> kowalski91: but you continued
[10:22] <kowalski91> Mtldtiex is just a troll
[10:22] <ikonia> enough now
[10:22] <ikonia> it's dealt with
[10:23] <Quantos> Thanks guys, nice response time :D
[10:23]  * Quantos tucks that command away for later needs
[10:24] <Mtldtiex> hi!
[10:24] <kowalski91> the troll came back!
[10:24] <Mtldtiex> kowalski91 its you, not me
[10:24] <Mtldtiex> i already called police
[10:24] <Kartagis> can I ask a mint question here?
[10:25] <ikonia> Kartagis: no
[10:35] <MaddoScience> hi, I'm having a problem with installing ubuntu server on a RAID system, I'm having trouble installing grub
[10:36] <ikonia> MaddoScience: what type of raid
[10:36] <MaddoScience> I'll explain in a second
[10:36] <MaddoScience> I made two RAID partitions, one is a raid 5 for data and one is a raid 1 for boot
[10:37] <ikonia> is it software/fake/hardware raid
[10:37] <MaddoScience> all software made in the installer
[10:37] <ikonia> ok
[10:37] <MaddoScience> I'm at the grub part of the installer, trying to figure how to correctly tell it to install in the right place
[10:38] <MaddoScience> as far as I know the raid array  Iset up for boot is called md128
[10:38] <ikonia> so it should go to the meta device which should write to both physical devices, however that doesn't always work, so you may want to write it to just the primary physical disk and then copy the boot sector manuually to the second
[10:38] <mort__> hey, anyone there?
[10:39] <MaddoScience> so I should remove the raid from boot?
[10:39] <ikonia> no
[10:39] <MaddoScience> *should I
[10:39] <mort__> I need some help with aticonfig with fglrx
[10:40] <MaddoScience> so I'm not sure what I should do
[10:41] <mort__> `sudo aticonfig --resolution=Screen#,WxH` should, according to aticonfig -h, set the resolution of a screen. However, it doesn't mention how to find out which screens have which screen number.
[10:41] <ikonia> MaddoScience: what I suggested
[10:41] <mort__> I have tried a couple of obvious things, like using the names xrandr gives, and numbers 0-3, but they don't work.
[10:42] <MaddoScience> ikonia: sorry I don't really know how to do that
[10:42] <ikonia> write grub to the primary physical disk
[10:42] <ikonia> that will get you booting
[10:42] <MaddoScience> right now it's in the raid
[10:42] <MaddoScience> though
[10:42] <ikonia> at that point you can manually copy thhe boot sector to the seond physical disk
[10:42] <ikonia> grub does not like on the raid - grub lives on the physical disk
[10:42] <MaddoScience> I see
[10:43] <paldenji> can some body help me
[10:43] <Quantos> I'd thought GRUB would be fine there
[10:43] <ikonia> Quantos: fine where ?
[10:43] <Quantos> I don't run raid, I just assumed that GRUB could handle it
[10:43] <ikonia> it  can
[10:44] <MaddoScience> let me check if I understand it correctly: if I set sda1 (which is the first partition on the first disk in the raid array) should it work?
[10:44] <ikonia> grub is nothing to do with raid
[10:44] <ikonia> MaddoScience: no
[10:44] <ikonia> that is a partition
[10:44] <ikonia> grub lives on the boot secot
[10:44] <MaddoScience> so sda?
[10:44] <ikonia> sector
[10:44] <Quantos> That's what I thought
[10:44] <Davide> ciao
[10:44] <paldenji> sudo
[10:44] <Davide> !list
[10:44] <Quantos> Interesting
[10:45] <MaddoScience> the grub installer has already the following in the target device list: /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd
[10:45] <MaddoScience> it doesn't work though
[10:45] <ikonia> define "doesn't work"
[10:45] <MaddoScience> I just get a fatl error
[10:45] <MaddoScience> *fatal
[10:46] <MaddoScience> executing grub-install /dev/sda failed this is a fatal error
[10:47] <ikonia> maybe worth checking if sda is the physical disk you think it is
[10:47] <MaddoScience> how do I check that?
[10:47] <ikonia> look at the software raid config you are using, make suure sda is in the mirror, not raid 5
[10:48] <MaddoScience> I'm doing raid on partitions though
[10:48] <ikonia> thats fine
[10:49] <ikonia> so is /dev/sda including a partition that is included in raid 5
[10:49] <MaddoScience> how do I check a list of the partitions on every drive from the installer console?
[10:49] <ikonia> you should see it in the partition gui
[10:49] <MaddoScience> I'd do fdisk -l usually but I don't have that there
[10:50] <MaddoScience> ah ok I'll go back to the partition gui then
[10:52] <MaddoScience> sda, sdb, sdc, sdd are my drives, each has two partitions set to raid, one used by md128 (the raid 1) and one by md127 (the raid 2)+
[10:52] <pikaciu> when  i dual boot with win and ,during installation, i choose manual partition instead of automatic,  my ubuntu partition should be mounted as '/' or 'boot' ?        thanx
[10:53] <ikonia> MaddoScience: so you have 4 drives in a raid1 mirror ?
[10:53] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: It should be /
[10:53] <pikaciu> ColtonDRG,  thanx
[10:53] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: /boot/ is where the kernel and bootloader go
[10:53] <MaddoScience> ikonia: no, I have 4 drives in which I made the same partitions and then set these as raid devices
[10:54] <pikaciu> ColtonDRG,  ok.... because i did so and my win disappeared :/  ...
[10:54] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: You might want to also consider making a seperate partition for /home/ so you won't lose all your stuff if you decide to nuke your Ubuntu install
[10:54] <MaddoScience> I didn't raid the drives themselves
[10:54] <ikonia> MaddoScience: you just said you had 4 disks with 2 partitions on each
[10:54] <ikonia> so that means you have 4 partitions on 4 drives as member of a raid 1 mirror
[10:54] <pikaciu> ColtonDRG,  ok
[10:54] <MaddoScience> on each drive partition 1 belongs to one raid device, partition 2 belongs to another
[10:54] <MaddoScience> sorry I'm not explaining it correctly but I don't know the terminology well
[10:55] <ikonia> MaddoScience: right, so if you have 4 partitions with 1 partition belonging to the raid 1 mirror, thats 4 disks in a mirror ?? and 4 disks with a raid 5 stripe
[10:55] <MaddoScience> maybe I should just take a pic of the list
[10:56] <pikaciu> ColtonDRG,  so... sda1=wn    , sda2=linux as 'root',   sda3=swap , sda4 = home ... right ?
[10:56] <pikaciu> win
[10:57] <bekks> That will use all primary partitions, which is not a good idea.
[10:57] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: sda1 should be NTFS with no mountpoint (uncheck the "Use this partition" box)
[10:58] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: sda2 should be ext4 with mountpoint "/"
[10:58] <pikaciu> ColtonDRG,  cool.... i didn't know that
[10:58] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: A swap partition is really unnessasary unless you have less than 4 gigs of RAM, so you don't need that.
[10:59] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: And sda3 should be ext4 with mountpoint "/home"
[10:59] <pikaciu> ColtonDRG,  im resuming a pentium III    :-P
[10:59] <pikaciu> uahauhaauhahah
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:59] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: If you really do need swap, it should be the last partition.
[10:59] <pikaciu> ColtonDRG,  ok
[10:59] <bekks> pikaciu: Yeah, that sounds like the pain having to work with a P3. ;)
[11:00] <explodes> I have 8 gig of ram, and 8gig of swap :| how do i remove my swap safely
[11:00] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: Also, you will probably need to use an extended partition due to disk limitations.
[11:00] <ikonia> explodes: what do you mean ?
[11:00] <pikaciu> ColtonDRG,  you mean Logical ? right ?
[11:00] <explodes> ikonia: actually never mind
[11:00] <ColtonDRG> pikaciu: Yes.
[11:01] <pikaciu> bekks...   yep.... but it's special  because it has an external chache  .... very speedy :P
[11:01] <MaddoScience> welp uploading a picture of the partitions list from my phone to imgur didn't work so well and I just wasted time
[11:03] <pikaciu> ColtonDRG,  thanx ... i'm doing the job
[11:03] <MaddoScience> I guess I'll just kill that raid1 device
[11:04] <LukePerry> Hi All
[11:04] <LukePerry> How can i share my ethernet connection via wifi in Lubuntu? any clues?
[11:06] <MaddoScience> I'm removing the raid device and setting every boot partitionon every drive to /boot. bad idea?
[11:08] <derrzzaa> Can anyone recommend a piece of software like Teracopy for Windows? See progress of a huge transfer + CRC integrity check?
[11:08] <Ben64> rsync
[11:09] <pikaciu> So... this is the job... one server-teacher  (64 bit 4G ram Hp pavillion) 22 clients (classroom) very poor machines --- connected with ubuntu LTSP and if it fails they fall back to Lubuntu 14.10  installed  on all machines ... it could work ? thanx
[11:10] <bekks> pikaciu: I'd use 14.04 - 14.10 will be EOL this years, while 14.04 will be supported until 2019.
[11:10] <pikaciu> bekks...         ok i got it too
[11:11] <LukePerry> I like Kubuntu quite a lot, I am surprise of the good integration of Ubuntu with KDE
[11:12] <MaddoScience> grub is STILL not working, I just get this fatal error when installing it to sda
[11:12] <derrzzaa> ..without forgetting the --progress flag!
[11:13] <Kartagis> I might go back to ubuntu, but it all comes down to:does tracker still randomly crash?
[11:13] <bekks> !info tracker
[11:20] <MaddoScience> maybe I'm missing a critical step: does grub have to know where I installed the system?  right now I got this /boot partition on the first drive while / is on an lvm device inside a raid 5 spanning all 4 disks
[11:21] <friend> Hello
[11:21] <zagreb> hi
[11:21] <bogdan_> hi
[11:21] <bogdan_> can anyone pls help me?
[11:21] <zagreb> I accidentally renamed files in a folder. Is it possible to undo this? Otherwise my program won't work.
[11:23] <bogdan_> is anyone able to help me a little bit?
[11:23] <Enkidu_ak> zagreb, You can change them back. That's about it
[11:23] <SnowmanX11> bogdan_: in what?
[11:23] <Enkidu_ak> bogdan_, Which what?
[11:23] <Guest14490> Есть кто говорит по русски и разбирается в IOS
[11:23] <bogdan_> i am a new user of ubuntu and i like it very much but still learning
[11:23] <bogdan_> i tried to install skype and i have a problem
[11:24] <bogdan_> malformed line 56
[11:24] <bogdan_> i tried to reinstall ubuntu many times but same thing i dont know why
[11:24] <SnowmanX11> bogdan_: did you get this message during the installation?
[11:26] <Enkidu_ak> Guest14490, Я бы порекомендовал это #ubuntu-rs
[11:26] <zagreb> Enkidu_ak: there's no change log? I don't know what the filenmaes should be.
[11:27] <SnowmanX11> bogdan_: I guess that is given by fact that the skype source was not correctly added to the source list
[11:27] <SnowmanX11> bogdan_: I guess that is given by fact that the skype source was not correctly added to the source list
[11:27] <bogdan__> sry it crashed
[11:27] <Enkidu_ak> zagreb, Which program is it? Did you extract the files form an archive?
[11:27] <SnowmanX11> bogdan_: Try to check the source list
[11:28] <bogdan__> that has nothing to do with skype....this is before i install skype
[11:28] <SnowmanX11> bogdan_: Maybe, than still a source list issue
[11:28] <bogdan__> i found some tutorials on web how to install skype
[11:28] <zagreb> Enkidu_ak: no, i ran a simpmle script to rename the files in the wrong folder, and each filename indicates a different date, that'st why i need to undo this
[11:28] <bogdan__> 1. sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386  2. sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/$(lsb_release -sc) partner"  3. sudo apt-get update  4. sudo apt-get install skype
[11:28] <bogdan__> these are the steps i found
[11:29] <bogdan__> how do i find the source list?
[11:29] <SnowmanX11> bogdan_: go to your source list and check line 56. Somethings is wrong there
[11:29] <svetlana> bogdan__: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:29] <Enkidu_ak> zagreb, There is no simple way to undo it. If you know which program is now not working then you should be able to work out which dependencies were renamed.
[11:29] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: sudo gedit /ect/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <Enkidu_ak> zagreb, I can try to help you with that, at least
[11:30] <zagreb> Enkidu_ak: there's no way to know what were the filenames, they were arbitrary dates
[11:30] <bogdan__> svetlana if i write that in terminal says permission denied
[11:30] <l9> bogdan__: sudo
[11:31] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: check which package source is added in line 56
[11:31] <Enkidu_ak> zagreb, Then I'm afraid that you won't be able to do much with them unless you had backups
[11:31] <zagreb> Enkidu_ak: ok ty
[11:31] <l9> svetlana how is upgrading from 14.01 lts too 15 ?
[11:31] <bogdan__> lol i open source list and is empty
[11:31] <bogdan__> nothing there
[11:31] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: then look for that in google and see the post, how this line should look like
[11:32] <l9> zfs rollback snapshot
[11:32] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: maybe there is a misstyping in the line
[11:32] <bogdan__> can you tell me the difference between 12.04.5 and 14.04? witch ii better?
[11:32] <l9> oh yeah you have too have zfs installed on ubuntu anyone tried zfs
[11:33] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: 2 years development is the difference >>> try to go for the newer one
[11:33] <bogdan__> 14.04 LTS is the bet
[11:33] <bogdan__> best?
[11:33] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: that is the newest LTS, strongly recommended
[11:33] <l9> bogdan__: 12.04 aint supported anymore thats the main diffrence
[11:33] <l9> bogdan__: leave 12.04
[11:34] <MaddoScience> why does 14.04 have more support time than 14.10 exactly?
[11:34] <l9> unless you have a major reason too stay but i cant find any reason why you shouldnt
[11:35] <bogdan__> i am actually on 14.04 LTS right now
[11:35] <SnowmanX11> MaddoScience: the LTS versions (Long Term Support) 14.04 is an LTS, 14.10 is an in between version
[11:35] <l9> 14.10 is dropped after the next release
[11:35] <MaddoScience> ah so there will be another release?
[11:35] <l9> 15
[11:35] <yeats> !lts | MaddoScience
[11:36] <MaddoScience> thanks
[11:36] <SnowmanX11> MaddoScience: twice a yearly. Regularly in April and October
[11:36] <svetlana> l9: lazy me i didn't do it yet :)
[11:36] <MaddoScience> is updating from one LTS to another... advisable?
[11:36] <yeats> MaddoScience: LTS release is every even year in April
[11:36] <SnowmanX11> MaddoScience: it depends on what you do
[11:36] <yeats> MaddoScience: yep
[11:36] <l9> considering upgrading too 15 on the desktop
[11:37] <Enkidu_ak> Vivid is just around the corner
[11:37] <svetlana> l9: i tend to wait for the release, it's not April yet :)
[11:37] <l9> vivid comes in april ?
[11:37] <MaddoScience> I run servers, ever since I wrecked a bunch by upgrading debian now that I have them all on ubuntu server I got to be careful
[11:37] <svetlana> yup .04 so
[11:37] <SnowmanX11> MaddoScience: LTS is a robust version, better for servers and stabil installations. Other versions will always contain the newest things
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Vivid id availabl;e for the advenrurous who don't need a stable working envirnoment :)
[11:38] <l9> wonder what new marvels are added this year :p
[11:38] <yeats> MaddoScience: yes, on servers you might do a dry run on a test machine to see if anything breaks
[11:38] <MaddoScience> compared to debian, even ubuntu LTS should have newer packages, right?
[11:38] <yeats> MaddoScience: Debian wheezy, yes?
[11:38] <MaddoScience> debian stable
[11:38] <l9> BluesKaj how unstable is the new releases vs lts
[11:39] <SnowmanX11> MaddoScience: LTS is also getting new packages, but they are not in test phase
[11:39] <yeats> MaddoScience: 14.04 would be significantly newer, but 12.04 is about the same
[11:39] <MaddoScience> my problem with debian was that the packages were VERY outdated
[11:39] <yeats> MaddoScience: then Ubuntu LTS is probably a good alternative
[11:39] <SnowmanX11> MaddoScience: Ubuntu is faster testing and releasing
[11:39] <svetlana> l9, if in kernel i won't notice, if in gui then i'll know way ahead cause i sit on trunk  version of a de. visiting -dev and +1 chans should give some idea though (except of what canonical is planning internally)
[11:39] <BluesKaj> l9, depends on your desktop environmrnt mostly
[11:39] <MaddoScience> yeah I switched to ubuntu server LTS
[11:39] <l9> MaddoScience debian is more server side where hardware aint replaced that often
[11:39] <bogdan__> witch linux is the best? from all that exist?
[11:40] <MaddoScience> was just confirming if what I thought was right
[11:40] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: do not ask religious questions
[11:40] <yeats> MaddoScience: it's stable, has a long (and actually set - Debian doesn't schedule releases) support cycle
[11:40] <yeats> !best | bogdan__
[11:40] <l9> oh i have fluxbox hehe :P
[11:40] <BluesKaj> l9, and that's pretty braod question, difficult to answer
[11:40] <BluesKaj> err broad
[11:40] <Enkidu_ak> bogdan__, There isn't a best, really
[11:40] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: it always depends on your own taste
[11:40] <yeats> hmm - there used to be a factoid for that
[11:40] <l9> is there plans too change X anytime soon ?
[11:41] <Enkidu_ak> l9, It's been stable for me with xfce. Plasma 5 is still just a bit too wobbly for me. Haven't tried Unity yet
[11:41] <Blueking> can someone have a peek at this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10691975/    net dropout without any notice and have to manual put it online by 'service networking restart', if simulate drop of line by pull out cable and put it back it does disconnect router and  won't be back online before service networking restart or reboot is it access gateway or pc(router with ubuntu server + shorewall) that
[11:41] <Blueking> are faulty ?  tried diff lan cables  no go
[11:41] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: the best is what you like the best --- that's it
[11:41] <bogdan__> yeah it should be but as i never used linux till now i thought to ask this
[11:41] <jrtappers> How do I enable SSH key checking with DNSSEC?
[11:41] <l9> Enkidu_ak unity well yeah ... got dropped after two hours here
[11:41] <SnowmanX11> One of the best to learn is ubuntu or linux mint, just because they are well documented
[11:42] <yeats> bogdan__: if you ask here, the answer will probably be a general consensus of "ubuntu" - you might check out http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major for others
[11:42] <bogdan__> ohh thx
[11:42] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: look around google, read articles and watch screenshots and choooooose one
[11:42] <ErfanBs> !openjdk
[11:42] <Enkidu_ak> If you ask in ##linux they are likely to throw something at you
[11:42] <yeats> !java | ErfanBs
[11:42] <svetlana> bogdan__: do web search on 'gnu free distros'. i can only suggest trisquel here.
[11:43] <MaddoScience> I'm still trying to install 14.04 server on a server with 4 drives, if on each drive I set them to GPT, make a biosgrub partition on each and then two extra partitions, one of which will be a raid 1 array for / and one a raid 5 for /var, will grub work?
[11:43] <Kartagis> I might go back to ubuntu, but it all comes down to:does tracker still randomly crash?
[11:43] <bogdan__> don't be upset it was just a inoffensive q :)
[11:43] <svetlana> not for me
[11:43] <svetlana> meaning tracker doesnt crash randomly for me
[11:44] <l9> still waiting on that damb jail build too fininsh
[11:44] <Enkidu_ak> MaddoScience, Can't think of any reason why it shouldn't.
[11:44] <Kartagis> oh, okay
[11:44] <svetlana> bogdan__: no worries
[11:44] <Kartagis> svetlana: has it ever?
[11:44] <MaddoScience> thanks Enkidu_ak
[11:44] <svetlana> nope
[11:44] <yeats> MaddoScience: sounds like a pretty complicated setup for one machine, though
[11:44]  * yeats likes simplicity
[11:44] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: No anger from our side, but there are hudreds of distros and all of them have a fans
[11:44] <MaddoScience> yeats: I just did something like that earlier with LVM on top and figured I had to redo everything
[11:45] <bogdan__> brb guys imma reinstall this thing right now and see what happens
[11:45] <Enkidu_ak> Easier for me to list the distros that I don't like, to be honest.
[11:45] <bogdan__> i'll be back soon
[11:45] <SnowmanX11> bogdan__: it sounds like these questions: which is the best book? which is the best music?
[11:45] <svetlana> bogdan__: see you soon
[11:45] <maziar> plz help me http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29316542/recover-ntfs-files-after-format-to-ext4
[11:45] <l9> bogdan__: use zfs if you are trying too setup any server, highly unstable still tho. but the time spendt on learning zfs is well spendt
[11:46] <yeats> !recover | maziar
[11:46] <jrtappers> Ok, for any people in the future that google this, you need to install ldnsutils with apt-get to get it to work
[11:47] <Enkidu_ak> maziar, In your case you deleted an ntfs partition and wrote a new one. As long as you haven't written any data to that partition there is a reasonable chance that the data is still there.
[11:47] <ErfanBs> !spotify
[11:47] <Enkidu_ak> maziar, Recovering it will be painful, though
[11:47] <maziar> yeats, is there any solution for ntfs ?
[11:47] <yeats> maziar: sorry, no idea
[11:48] <jrtappers> maziar, is this helpful? https://linuxacademy.com/blog/linux/ntfs-partition-repair-and-recovery-in-linux/
[11:49] <Enkidu_ak> maziar, In theory you could use something like dd
[11:49] <jrtappers> ErfanBs, Random spotify, or are you looking for it?
[11:50] <ErfanBs> jrtappers: i want install it
[11:50] <jrtappers> ErfanBs, https://www.spotify.com/uk/download/previews/
[11:50] <yeats> maziar: if you don't know, and if you don't have friends who can help, you will probably need to either 1) pay lots of money for recovery (and even then there will probably be some data loss) or 2) consider it a painful learning experience that many of us (myself included) have had to endure
[11:50] <jrtappers> ErfanBs, Follow the Debian instructions
[11:50] <maziar> let me check
[11:51] <ErfanBs> jrtappers: Thank You dude
[11:51] <jrtappers> ErfanBs, Thats ok
[12:00] <MaddoScience> error: diskfilter drivers are not supporter
[12:01] <MaddoScience> what... does this mean?
[12:01] <MaddoScience> I'm booting the system for the first time after installing it
[12:02] <l9> MaddoScience: what kind of disk connection do you have
[12:02] <yeats> MaddoScience: http://askubuntu.com/questions/468466/why-this-occurs-error-diskfilter-writes-are-not-supported
[12:02] <MaddoScience> thanks I'll check the link
[12:03] <yeats> MaddoScience: looks like a pretty comprehensive answer - thank your stars because that's pretty rare ;-)
[12:04] <l9> yeats: how is the zfs support on ubuntu
[12:04] <MaddoScience> I think I completely messed up my installation because apt-get is telling me to insert the ubuntu cd
[12:05] <svetlana> insert it then
[12:05] <Blueking> use mem stick :P
[12:06] <l9> mount iso ?
[12:06] <IdleOne> MaddoScience: for some reason you don't have the Universe and Multiverse repositories enabled.
[12:06] <IdleOne> !repositories
[12:06] <MaddoScience> thanbk you
[12:07] <MaddoScience> oh no I can't edit the resources because I don't have nano and can't install it... welp time to reinstall
[12:07] <MaddoScience> not going to bother with vi
[12:08] <l9> MaddoScience: you are gonna reinstall cause you need too use vi once? ??????
[12:08] <l9> learn vi !!! if you are gonna use linux learn too use vi
[12:08] <MaddoScience> actually I got to reinstall because I skipped installation steps
[12:09] <MaddoScience> due to the mess from earlier
[12:09] <svetlana> ok do it
[12:09] <Blueking> clean install ?
[12:09] <svetlana> most non-silly (non-svetlana) people have home in a separate partition anyway, so reinstall is not a big issue
[12:09] <MaddoScience> it was a clean install anyway
[12:09] <BluesKaj> MaddoScience, think you just need to install grub on the first hdd
[12:09] <l9> oh crap my server halted and it dosent boot, sure i would reinstall
[12:09] <MaddoScience> so I can just reuse the partitions, grub worked though
[12:10] <svetlana> let's not panic and just do like he wants, he forgot some steps
[12:10] <MaddoScience> even through my messed up raid + lvm setup
[12:12] <l9> svetlana wonder why people have gotten so damb lazy
[12:14] <svetlana> l9 I prefer to let them follow things they consider important.  he needed to fix some steps so let it be
[12:14] <Blueking> think I used 3-4 weeks to set up router properly :P
[12:14] <svetlana> there are by far sillier things to do than "abort work on a clean install on 3th minute cuse of vi and missed steps"
[12:15] <svetlana> for example I'm working bashing my head through a silly web app which doesn't retrieve stored files correctly. it's clearly doing much more stupid and wrong things :)
[12:15] <MaddoScience> I've been working at this server for 5 hours already... and I still got to set up networking and routing
[12:16] <MaddoScience> installing is going to be the easiest part
[12:16] <svetlana> alright, don't forget to take notes
[12:16] <l9> svetlana i am banging my head against a freebsd jail trying too figure out why the hell my buildworld crashes after 3 hour of compiling
[12:17] <svetlana> aww
[12:17] <bogdan_> ok i am back
[12:18] <bogdan_> i wonder if the error still perssist
[12:18] <l9> oh and MaddoScience :w :q :wq writes and quits in vi ;) esc lets you type commands
[12:19] <MaddoScience> I could have used vi if I wanted but by skipping installation steps I missed on the automatic security updates settings among other things
[12:20] <l9> MaddoScience: most of those steps is kinda fun doing manually. but i understand you want it up and running :)
[12:24] <bogdan_> omfg i reinstalled ubuntu and still get the error
[12:24] <bogdan_> E: Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) E: The list of sources could not be read.
[12:24] <Aladiah> i dont know what to do! yesterday i lose the menu to choose start with Lubuntu 14.10, now windows 8 start imediatly! I already shutt off the fast start up on windows 8 !
[12:25] <bogdan_> can anyone help me with the problem?
[12:25] <Aladiah> Iam with dualboot instalation, i lose this after a reboot
[12:25] <Edu-J> hi all! do you know how to list and manage running services? (14.04)
[12:26] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: service command
[12:27] <Aladiah> Also when i try to restart with a usb live lubuntu 14.10 it give me a funny message, missing disk or something
[12:28] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: service --status-all list all services
[12:28] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: service ssh status show the status info of ssh
[12:29] <Edu-J> ok gr33n7007h , i'll give it a try ;) thx a lot
[12:31] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: also look up invoke-rc.d and update-rc.d :)
[12:32] <bogdan_> hi everyone. can anyone pls help me?
[12:32] <Edu-J> gr33n7007h, grate! I've running services I'm not using, like Apache :(
[12:32] <rebs> just ask
[12:32] <yeats> bogdan_: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list and share the link?
[12:33] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: do you want to stop it?
[12:33] <bogdan_> i don't know if i did it right but.....   bogdan@bogdan-Lenovo-G50-70:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[12:33] <Edu-J> gr33n7007h, I'd like to have it stopped and run it when needed
[12:33] <archip> bogdan_ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[12:34] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: service apache2 stop
[12:34] <gr33n7007h> and to start service apache2 start you get the idea :)
[12:35] <bogdan_> sry my friend i dunno all the terms yet i just installed linux for the 1st time
[12:35] <bogdan_> so i dunno what you mean
[12:35] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: if you want to disable it a boot use "update-rc.d apache2 disable
[12:35] <archip> bogdan_ open the terminal and run these commands: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:36] <Edu-J> gr33n7007h, I knew how to start, strop and restart, but not how to list and avoid they automatically start
[12:36] <archip> and: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[12:36] <archip> and show us the output of the second one
[12:37] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: well, to stop automatically starting at boot use "update-rc.d apache2 disable" or any other service you feel relevent :)
[12:37] <bogdan_> bogdan@bogdan-Lenovo-G50-70:~$ sudo apt-get install pastebinit [sudo] password for bogdan:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following NEW packages will be installed:   pastebinit 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 14,9 kB of archives. After this operation, 168 kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://archive.ubun
[12:37] <bogdan_> that is all i get in terminal
[12:38] <gr33n7007h> bogdan_: you already have it installed then :)
[12:38] <archip> bogdan_ run the second command now and paste the output here: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[12:38] <Edu-J> gr33n7007h, thanks a lot for your help, I'll follow your advices
[12:38] <bogdan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694648/
[12:38] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: np man :)
[12:39] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: or dudette :)
[12:39] <archip> huh... weird when are you getting the error you mentioned above?
[12:40] <bogdan_> can you tell me why do i get this problem? the ubuntu is downloaded from the official site is not cracked or modified should it do like this?
[12:40] <Edu-J> gr33n7007h, dudette??
[12:40] <archip> bogdan_ when does it give you that error? when you try to update?
[12:40] <gr33n7007h> Edu-J: lady :)
[12:40] <Edu-J> gr33n7007h, jaja, no, man
[12:40] <gr33n7007h> lol
[12:40] <Edu-J> gr33n7007h, Edu from "Eduardo" or "Edouard"
[12:40] <Edu-J> gr33n7007h, ;)
[12:40] <bogdan_> yes. i want to install skype and i found these steps on web    1. sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386  2. sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/$(lsb_release -sc) partner"  3. sudo apt-get update  4. sudo apt-get install skype
[12:40] <gr33n7007h> ah :)
[12:41] <bogdan_> but when i do step 3 update i get the error
[12:41] <Blueking> bekks: could u have a look at this logfile ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694643/    it's where I disconnect ethernet cable between access gateway and router(pc) and put it back on...  from line 3 it's very same as regular net drop outs
[12:43] <bogdan_> so you have any clue what cause this error?
[12:44] <archip> bogdan_ run these commands: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.b
[12:44] <archip> and: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:44] <archip> the second one should pop you into an editor
[12:45] <archip> remove these 2 lines from the file, save and exit:
[12:45] <archip> deb http://archive.canonical.com/trusty partner
[12:45] <archip> # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/trusty partner
[12:45] <Aladiah> I lose menu to choose Lubuntu 14.10 at startup, now windows 8.1 start first. How to acess Lubuntu again ?
[12:46] <archip> uhh the second command should be sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:46] <bogdan_> bogdan@bogdan-Lenovo-G50-70:~$ sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list [sudo] password for bogdan:  cp: missing destination file operand after ‘/etc/apt/sources.list’ Try 'cp --help' for more information.
[12:46] <Aladiah> I did :             Sudo update grub2                      with a live usb lubuntu14.10 and it tell me  command not found! could this be a solution ? I already disabled windows 8.1 fast startup
[12:46] <archip> bogdan_ its "cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.b"
[12:46] <archip> without the quotes ofc
[12:50] <bogdan_> archip_ i see the exit command but no save
[12:51] <archip> bogdan_ ctrl + X and itll ask you to save
[12:51] <bogdan_> archip_ ok i think is done
[12:52] <archip> bogdan_ does sudo apt-get update work ok now?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Aladiah, sudo update-grub2
[12:52] <Aladiah> ok
[12:53] <bogdan_> archip_ actually no...now i get error 50 before was 56
[12:53] <bogdan_> i men the line
[12:53] <Aladiah> cfhowlett  do you think this willl solve ?
[12:54] <Aladiah> cfhowlett:              http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694714/
[12:54] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | Aladiah
[12:55] <archip> bogdan_ run cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit again
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Aladiah, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[12:55] <Aladiah> cfhowtlett iam to newby on this. i will try
[12:55] <Aladiah> ok
[12:55] <bogdan_> wait i think i did it is ok now
[12:55] <archip> ah good
[12:56] <bogdan_> archip_ by deleteing these 2 lines i actually delete the canonical partner?
[12:56] <Aladiah> cfhowlett: iam already with live usb, can i jump step 1 to step 2 doesnit ?
[12:57] <Aladiah> cfhowlett: sudo apt-get install boot-repair      ?
[12:57] <archip> bogdan_ yes you undid the repo add command you run, I just realised that your mistake was that you forgot a space char: add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/[SPACE HERE]$(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[12:57] <cfhowlett> Aladiah, try it
[12:58] <bogdan_> aaa you mean when i want to install skype and i do the second command?
[12:58] <Aladiah> ok
[12:58] <archip> bogdan_ yup be careful where theres a space and when theres not it matters
[12:58] <bogdan_> ohhh thank you very much
[12:59] <Aladiah> cfhowlett:  problems installing boot repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694737/
[12:59] <archip> bogdan_ anytime were always here if you need more help
[12:59] <bogdan_> archip_ do you have skype or whatsapp or something?
[13:00] <archip> bogdan_ nope, hate microsoft with a passion, never used whatsapp :p
[13:00] <bogdan_> hehe
[13:00] <bogdan_> what do you use for communicate?
[13:00] <archip> irc, forums
[13:01] <Aladiah> cfhowlett: i did it iam with boot repair
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Aladiah, :0
[13:01] <kexibq> asd
[13:02] <Aladiah> if this work , i will back here to say it and i will write a post
[13:02] <Aladiah> about it
[13:04] <bogdan_> archip_ You there?
[13:05] <archip> bogdan_ yes?
[13:06] <bogdan_> archip_ where are You from?
[13:07] <archip> bogdan_ greece, why are you asking that in a support channel :P
[13:07] <bogdan_> archip_ when i want to reinstall ubuntu It shows me some options. erase ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS and reinstall or erase disk and install ubuntu
[13:07] <bogdan_> archip_ i to clean everything i neted 1st or 2nd?
[13:08] <archip> bogdan_ if clean everything means nuke the entire disk and everything in it(every partition) then its erase disk
[13:09] <bogdan_> If i chose erase disk and install ubuntu It will format everything including eraseing the 1st sistem?
[13:09] <archip> bogdan_ yes it will erase all files on the selected disk
[13:09] <archip> inculding the system
[13:10] <bogdan_> so actualy means that both options are kinda same thing
[13:11] <archip> bogdan_ the second option will also erase any other systems (in case you have dual booted) or any files in any other partition, practically cleaning the entire hard drive
[13:11] <archip> erase ubuntu will just touch the part of the drive allocated for ubuntu
[13:14] <anjo-aladiah> howlett:            its worked! But now the menu its funny, instead of saying Lubuntu , its Says Ubuntu, and get more options related to windows !
[13:14] <anjo-aladiah> this is normal ?*
[13:14] <bogdan_> archip_ i had win 7 before and i had 2 partitions. how can i erase everything and create only 1 partition and then install ubuntu
[13:14] <anjo-aladiah> About using boot repair ...
[13:15] <svetlana> bogdan_: tell the installer to do this. use manual partitioning option.
[13:15] <archip> bogdan_ that would be the erase disk option :p
[13:15] <bitnumus> What exactly is b/g/n, does that mean it can use any standard?
[13:15] <bitnumus> do i then need to force it to use n ?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> anjo-aladiah, can you boot into lubuntu???
[13:15] <svetlana> bogdan_: er yes, what archip said is better.
[13:15] <bogdan_> so if i chose erase disk and install ubuntu will make me only 1 part?
[13:16] <archip> bogdan_ yes
[13:16] <anjo-aladiah> cfhowlett: yes i can but in menu say ubuntu not lubuntu ? why?
[13:16] <anjo-aladiah> should i now do sudo update-grub2 ?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> anjo-aladiah, lubuntu IS ubuntu!  just a different desktop environment.  sudo update-grub2
[13:17] <bogdan_> can you tell me what does encrypt the new ubuntu installation for security and use lvm with the new ubuntu instalation options?
[13:17] <bogdan_> these are 2 options for erase disk and install ubuntu
[13:18] <anjo-aladiah> lets try, thanks friend. i wll write a post on this, because i couldnt find anywhere! If this work after this update lololol
[13:19] <archip> bogdan_ encrypt: it will prompt you to choose a password that will be asked to you each time you boot your pc, if you forget that password there is 0 chance of recovering your data
[13:19] <bogdan_> and the last question is if i should check the 2 options "download updates while installing" and " install the third-party software"
[13:20] <cxdvty> Hey does anyone know how to configure displays
[13:20] <archip> bogdan_ lvm, its an advance option you can ignore it the last 2 options are your call tho I would recommand the second one
[13:20] <archip> !ask | cxdvty
[13:21] <cxdvty> I have a big plasma screen tv and when I plug hdmi from my laptop to my tv and change the tv to my primary display, all for sides of my desktop get cut off
[13:21] <cxdvty> How to I configure it
[13:22] <dgosbee> is it only cut off on your computer?
[13:22] <nyashmyash2> hi
[13:22] <dgosbee> do you get display on your tv?
[13:22] <nyashmyash2> can anyone tell me how many sectors on one hdd track?
[13:23] <bogdan_> if i press erase disk and install ubuntu you said it will make only 1 partition. but then it tells me the following partitions are going to be formatted partition #1 of scsi1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext4 and partition #5 of scis1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap. why are 2?
[13:24] <nyashmyash2> how many sectors on one hdd track?
[13:24] <archip> bogdan_ the second is swap, it is recommended that you keep it. Swap is "backup RAM" if your ram fills up some apps memory is moved to the hard drive
[13:24] <cfhowlett> bogdan_, that is the normal setup
[13:24] <archip> ^
[13:24] <bogdan_> aaa ok thx alot.
[13:25] <nyashmyash2> bogdan_ ðóññêèå ëàìåðû àòàêóþò ôðèíîä.
[13:25] <archip> my irc client didnt like that message
[13:25] <nyashmyash2> archip how many sectors on one hdd track?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> nyashmyash2, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector
[13:26] <bogdan_> nyashmyash2_ i know that is an insult but i don't give a fack :)
[13:27] <nyashmyash2> BluesKaj i was on this link and don't find informartion. can you tell me number directly?
[13:28] <bogdan_> archip_ do you know how can i make the dolby sound work on ubuntu? it does on win but not here
[13:28] <bitnumus> hi all, how do i check what firmware version is being used in my kernel for "iwlwifi"  ?
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !wifi | bitnumus
[13:28] <nyashmyash2> BluesKaj i was on this link and don't find informartion. can you tell me number directly?
[13:29] <bitnumus> cfhowlett, thats a whole lot of info...
[13:29] <archip> bogdan_ no idea, google is your friend :)
[13:30] <bitnumus> i know the chipset etc, want to find out how old the driver is built into kernel
[13:30] <bogdan_> i tried that already and nothing good found
[13:31] <nyashmyash2> BluesKaj there is no information about my question in wikipedia. can you tell me number?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> bitnumus, try: lscpi -vvnn | grep Broadcom
[13:31] <bitnumus> cfhowlett, i know what the chipset is
[13:31] <bitnumus> Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
[13:32] <bitnumus> cfhowlett, i'm trying to find what version iwlwifi is in this kernel, if thats right ?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> bitnumus, ah, so I did not answer the question you asked.  sorry.  I don't know.
[13:32] <aladiah> cfhowlett:  it works now my menu it is: Ubuntu  then Adavanced options for ubuntu thenWindows UEFI bootgfw.efi(what a hell is this?) , then windows boot UEFI LOADER( whats this), windows boot manager in /dev/sda2 , Why this windows options appear suddently ?
[13:33] <nyashmyash2> so can anyone tell me number of sectors per track?
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !efi | aladiah normal.
[13:34] <svetlana> bitnumus: hi.
[13:34] <bibi-23> hello, my laptop was detecting an sd card each time I was plugging it, but I've installed Raspian on the sd card, and now Ubuntu doesn't detect in anymore, I've tried to reboot but no effect.
[13:34] <aladiah> ubottu: oh installing is different on this machines ? I installed mine in normal way i think . .
[13:34] <maddoscience> is anyone running ubuntu server (installed with the virtual machine option) in kvm and does anyone know what's the minimum amount of ram I can allocate to it if I just need to run a firewall?
[13:34] <bitnumus> svetlana, hi
[13:34] <cxdvty> Obriendave?
[13:34] <svetlana> bitnumus: try ``sudo modinfo iwlwifi | grep vers''.
[13:34] <aladiah> ops its a boot
[13:35] <cxdvty> svetlana: can you answer my question
[13:35] <bitnumus> svetlana, version:        in-tree:     hmm
[13:36] <svetlana> cxdvty: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694937/ for example.
[13:36] <svetlana> er.
[13:36] <svetlana> bitnumus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694937/ for example.
[13:36] <svetlana> cxdvty: what's up?
[13:36] <bitnumus> svetlana, yea i got that, but there isn't a version there?
[13:36] <bitnumus> well, there is "7F17406EFFE91762CB15EEE" in yours for example, is this relevant ?
[13:37] <cxdvty> svetlana: I have been using a smaller tv for my primary display for hdmi. Now I got a huge plasma screen and when I switch it to primary display alot of my desktop gets cut off. How do I configure it?
[13:37] <svetlana> bitnumus: in-tree and the 'modversion 686' bits are what I parsed as version.
[13:37] <svetlana> cxdvty: depends on the desktop environment you are using, most of them have display settings section in their settings window.
[13:38] <cxdvty> Im on ubuntu unity
[13:38] <cxdvty> svetlana: I cant find the setting that will fix the display on my big tv
[13:38] <Quantos> And make sure that the display on the tv is set to Normal and not Zoom or something like that
[13:38] <svetlana> cxdvty: if it doesn't have a settings button near the logout button, then I don't know where it does. I'm using something else.
[13:39] <aladiah> cdhowlett: do you think iam haveing this problems because i didnt installed Lubuntu 14.10 in UEFI mode installing ?
[13:39] <cxdvty> Quantos: It's not. What do I do?
[13:39] <Quantos> Let me boot into unity really quick, I'll brb
[13:40] <cfhowlett> aladiah, could be
[13:40] <svetlana> (for your reference, "boot into unity" sounds wrong. you "log in" into unity -- there is not a need to restart X or the kernel.)
[13:41] <aladiah> cfhowlett: there is a way to know if i have a UEFI lubuntu instalation ?
[13:41] <maddoscience> is there a way to properly restart networking and be sure that every interface is actually restarted and routing is reevaluated? I tried service networking restart but it told me it didn't actually restart anything
[13:41] <aladiah> doing a command line?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> aladiah, did you install the 64 amd version of lubuntu?
[13:42] <aladiah> yes i did
[13:42] <cfhowlett> aladiah, more than likely - efi
[13:42] <cxdvty> Is there any way I can post a screenshot for you guys to see?
[13:42] <svetlana> maddoscience, could be the network-manager service.
[13:43] <aladiah> that means i dont have a UEFI installation doesnit cfhowlett ?
[13:43] <svetlana> cxdvty: www.imgur.com should work
[13:43] <maddoscience> svetlana: I don't have anything like that I think
[13:43] <EriC^^> aladiah, are you in the installation right now?
[13:43] <aladiah> iam with the lubuntu running
[13:43] <EriC^^> in the installation? or live usb?
[13:44] <aladiah> in the installation, but it is already installed
[13:44] <cxdvty> help mer
[13:44] <aladiah> Its the scond time i lose menu in 4 months
[13:44] <cxdvty> when I screenshot the display looks fine
[13:44] <EriC^^> aladiah, ok, type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[13:44] <Quantos> cxdvty, there's an icon to take you to the settings window on that vertical paned bar on the left hand side of the screen
[13:45] <cxdvty> I know where settings is I just cant configure it to fit on my big tv
[13:45] <svetlana> maddoscience: another thing could be running ``ifdown'' and then ``ifup'' for each interface manually. but I would suggest that you pastebin the error from ``service networking restart'' first to see what the problem is.
[13:46] <aladiah> EriC^^  it is blocked with that command
[13:46] <aladiah> no answear !
[13:46] <aladiah> nooo
[13:46] <aladiah> wait
[13:46] <Quantos> cxdtv, are you running an nVidia GPU or an AMD one?
[13:46] <svetlana> cxdvty, the size of tv screen is off, what prevents you from setting a resolution which is consistent with the tv screen size?
[13:47] <maddoscience> svetlana: I would pastebin it but now I rebooted and apparently the network configuration is bad and system is stuck
[13:47] <aladiah> EriC^^  :         http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694986/
[13:47] <cxdvty> I dont know the rez of my tv
[13:47] <maddoscience> ah it started
[13:47] <aladiah> EriC^^  :         http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694986/    what this mean ?
[13:47] <whz> hellow
[13:47] <maddoscience> stop; job failed while stopping
[13:47] <maddoscience> not very helpful
[13:47] <Quantos> Are you using an nVidia card or another GPU cxdvty ?
[13:47] <EriC^^> aladiah, it means you're using uefi
[13:48] <EriC^^> aladiah, type sudo efibootmgr -v
[13:48] <aladiah> EriC^^  :         so good news
[13:48] <cfhowlett> aladiah, you have efi lubuntu
[13:48] <cxdvty> Im using amd
[13:48] <aladiah> bad news
[13:48] <bibi-23> hello, my laptop was detecting an sd card each time I was plugging it, but I've installed Raspian on the sd card, and now Ubuntu doesn't detect in anymore, I've tried to reboot but no effect.
[13:48] <Quantos> So you're using the neuveau driver then cxdvty ?
[13:49] <aladiah> EriC^^  :         http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694996/
[13:49] <cxdvty> I guesws lol
[13:49] <cxdvty> lol
[13:49] <cxdvty> guess
[13:49] <Quantos> Okay, let me look a couple of things up
[13:51] <EriC^^> aladiah, what happens when you boot right now?
[13:51] <aladiah> EriC^^  :        It gave me more options in menu about windows
[13:51] <EriC^^> what menu?
[13:51] <cyris212> I've just written the Ubuntu 14.04.2 livecd image to an usb drive, but ubuntu doesn't seems to be able to handle the graphics card of my HP 8570p...
[13:51] <cyris212> Where do I put nomodset in, so it works (http://oi59.tinypic.com/2draqn7.jpg)?
[13:51] <EriC^^> aladiah, you don't get grub?
[13:52] <aladiah> : Ubuntu then Adavanced options for ubuntu thenWindows UEFI bootgfw.efi(what a hell is this?) , then windows boot UEFI LOADER( whats this), windows boot manager in /dev/sda2
[13:52] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | cyris212
[13:52] <aladiah> this is are the options now
[13:52] <bitnumus> svetlana, lol my modversions is blank :P
[13:52] <EriC^^> aladiah, ok, when you press ubuntu it doesb't boot?
[13:52] <aladiah> EriC^^  :       Iam newby i dont know what it is get grub
[13:53] <EriC^^> aladiah, grub is that menu
[13:53] <aladiah> i press ubuntu and lubuntu run yes
[13:53] <cxdvty> changing rez wont work
[13:53] <EriC^^> aladiah, ok, what's the problem then?
[13:53] <EriC^^> aladiah, btw the other options are to boot windows..
[13:53] <cxdvty> Ill just get bad quality and im strictly against bad quality.
[13:53] <svetlana> bitnumus: that looks fishy