[17:29] <Marsjanin> 5,35 9-23 * * * DISPLAY=":0.0" wine 'C:\Program Files\WITaj!\Wit2000.exe' /jeden
[17:29] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, 10 5 * * 1-6 DISPLAY=":0 && amarok
[17:29] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68913/
[17:30] <TJ-42> I've heard that Ubuntu 8.10 has problems with nvidia drivers sometimes because of the change in how xorg.conf is used -- i.e. the proprietary nvidia linux drivers no longer work.  Is this accurate?
[17:30] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: With not closed doublequote and withoout a .0 part of identifier?
[17:30] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, 5,35 9-23 * * * DISPLAY=:0 && 'wine C:\Program Files\WITaj!\Wit2000.exe' /jeden
[17:30] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: That's the whole file?
[17:30] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, 10 5 * * 1-6 DISPLAY=:0 && amarok
[17:31] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: In its entirety!
[17:31] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, as I 've just reposted it , both should work fine now
[17:31] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: you are missing some stuff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo
[17:31] <Pici> pyBry: It may have started from there, but it should have put a symlink to that script in /etc/rc2.d/ (most probably that runlevel)
[17:31] <Reformer81> Also, is it safe to do an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[17:31] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Checking now...
[17:31] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: I'll try thats in minutes, thanx; is that something changed? That above commands worked fine on Ubu 7.10 and 8.04.
[17:32] <Exitialis> right its an ASUS A7N266-VM, any ideas where id get drivers for tht?
[17:32] <Pici> Reformer81: As long as you read the release notes, sure.
[17:32] <bXi> is there some simple way to let a temporary mount (like some samba server) to become a standard one?
[17:32] <chuckmoney> TJ-42: Yes, somewhat.  I have a GeForce 8600 and to put it nicely it was quite the unpleasant experience getting up dual displays at a less-than-standard resolution (1440x900).  My best tip is to use the EnvyNG drivers and spend a lot of time staring at the Ubuntu Forums at 800x600.
[17:32] <erUSUL> Exitialis: linux/ubuntu comes with most driver built in
[17:32] <hubar> Reformer81: It worked for me, but of course it is much better if you are to be safe, backuped all your data..
[17:32] <Pe1o> Marsjanin,  I think 8.10 uses a new version of cron but I can't be sure
[17:32] <awakebyjava> okay
[17:32] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: This is the guide I followed - that's the only line it says to add to /etc/yp.conf.  And even with the real IP address makes no difference
[17:32] <awakebyjava> for some reason the install isnt detecting my cdrom, but i booted from the cdrom
[17:33] <Reformer81> Pici: Well, the release notes don't say anything other than where to find help lol
[17:33] <TJ-42> chuckmoney: hmm, that sounds... iffy.  I already had enough trouble getting my dual displays working in 8.04 with different resolutions for each monitor.  but thanks for the response
[17:33] <Exitialis> ErUSUL: yeah, but not for this :(
[17:33] <awakebyjava> any ideas?
[17:33] <erUSUL> Exitialis: what piece of hardware is not working?
[17:33] <Exitialis> it just displays the monitor as unknown
[17:33] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: To all intents and purposes it works - it all did earlier on this afternoon anyway, it's just that for some reason I'm now being challeneged for a root password when usingyppasswd
[17:34] <chuckmoney> TJ-42: If it makes any difference, it was working great with the proprietary drivers.  Then I decided to enable desktop effects and spent 3 days getting both working at once.  If you're happy without COmpiz it's no real problem.
[17:34] <Exitialis> not sure, basically it sAYS THe monitor is unknown and wont pout its resolution past 600x480
[17:34] <Pici> Reformer81: No, there are a few caveats in there: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[17:34] <graingert> Exitialis-> what is your graphics card?
[17:34] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: look in dmesg log. From a shell do "dmesg | less" to scroll through that.
[17:34] <Exitialis> its built into the motherboard
[17:34] <Reformer81> Pici: Ah.  I was reading the release notes from the Upgrade utility... go figure.
[17:34] <chuckmoney> TJ-42: Basically, Compiz and the proprietary drivers conflict, so you have to use Envy to get both.
[17:34] <robacarp> is there a way to install ubuntu-desktop to a server without getting all the junk I don't want? (openoffice, etc)
[17:35] <Exitialis> graingert: which is ASUS A7N266-VM tht
[17:35] <TJ-42> chuckmoney: Hmm ok, thanks
[17:35] <Reformer81> Besides, the only reason I really want to upgrade is hoping that the sound issues from 7.04 have finally been fixed instead of just worked around!
[17:35] <graingert> Exitialis-> asus do graphics cards?
[17:35] <Exitialis> its on the motherboard
[17:35] <Cyde> Is there a nice GUI app for editing fstab, like how gparted is a nice GUI app for fdisk?
[17:35] <Exitialis> on a side note they do ys
[17:35] <chuckmoney> robacarp: maybe if you use the alternate CD and select the ubuntu-minimal package instead of the default ubuntu-desktop package.  But usually an install step has to fail for it to manually let you select packages.
[17:35] <ardchoille> robacarp: you can install the desktop and then remove openoffice
[17:35] <erUSUL> Reformer81: i didn't have any sound problems in 7.04 you are doing a gross generalization... youre problems are not general
[17:35] <graingert> Exitialis-> who makes the onboard graphics?
[17:36] <awakebyjava> huh, and how does one do that?
[17:36] <awakebyjava> i mean get to a shell
[17:36] <Reformer81> erUSUL: Well, seeing how the forums are filled with complaints about my problems without any solutions, I'd say it isn't a "gross" generalization.
[17:36] <robacarp> chuckmoney: I already have ubuntu installed as a server, but I'd like to add gnome desktop so I can have a gui
[17:36] <awakebyjava> it has gone to a manual install list thing
[17:36] <chuckmoney> Cyde: beyond gedit, not that I know of.  maybe there's one in synaptic, but I doubt it.
[17:37] <BrickHaus> Got to Applications > Accessesories > Terminal
[17:37] <awakebyjava> oh wait, i got it
[17:37] <Exitialis> nvidia, give me a sec to check the chip
[17:37] <robacarp> ardchoille: thats just silly...can't I install just the parts I want?
[17:37] <awakebyjava> it is not installing at all, thats the problem
[17:37] <awakebyjava> i found a shell though
[17:37] <chuckmoney> robacarp: then just install gnome-desktop.  should install only gnome and not any of the prebundled ubuntu applications.  but since you installed from the server CD it might not.  I'm not sure.
[17:37] <ardchoille> Cyde: fstab is just a text file
[17:37] <Cyde> chuckmoney: Hrmm, that's too bad.
[17:37] <dfgas> YAY!!! got my sound fixed !!! stupid alsa
[17:37] <jimcooncat> robacarp: though I wouldn't install a gui on a server, you may be happy with xfce in place of gnome; sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[17:38] <Cyde> ardchoille: Yes, I'm aware of what fstab is.
[17:38] <aboSamoor> how can call files without writing the whole path instead of python ~/code/python/noise/bla.py i want to call them directly python bla.py ??
[17:38] <runpain2_> howd you do it dfgas
[17:38] <Cyde> ardchoille: But editing fstab, especially to add a new drive, requires lots of consultation with the man page to get the options right.
[17:38] <dfgas> runpain2_, i will get link
[17:38] <kbrandt> Can I do a direct upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10
[17:38] <PerSeL> i need help with skype anyone here?
[17:38] <dfgas> runpain2_, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-18522.html
[17:38] <Cyde> ardchoille: A nice GUI app would make it easier to edit, especially for the average desktop user.
[17:38] <graingert> kbrandt-> no you need to go vai 8.04
[17:38] <graingert> via*
[17:38] <squarebracket> i just updated to intrepid, now my wired network doesn't work
[17:38] <robacarp> jimcooncat: does the xubuntu-desktop package come with a bunch of junk-frills programs like the ubuntu-desktop package?
[17:38] <ardchoille> Cyde: you have a good point, perhaps file a new item in brainstorm
[17:39] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Rebooting server... just in case... I hate doing that
[17:39] <ardchoille> !brainstorm | Cyde
[17:39] <runpain2_> Thanks dfgas
[17:39] <erUSUL> Reformer81: you lnow people for wht things just work do not post in forums looking for help so if you are trying to do stadistics you should choose a different sample than people on forums... i've been here for 4 years and the only thing i see here is people with problems with ubuntu that fact have not make me think ubuntu is buggy (becouse it works for me)
[17:39] <scunizi> who
[17:39] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: looking in the log is your fist step in identifying problems. If there is one you should see it there. Right now you have nothing to work with. First look in the log to see if its even being detected.
[17:39] <dfgas> runpain2_, more than one thing couldn't use alsa so i only had sound on one thing. so now i have all my programs sounds working  :D
[17:39] <chuckmoney> Cyde: you might consider installing something like the automount or pmount package so drives will mount automatically and then you don't have to deal with permissions, etc.  as long as your boot drive is in fstab correctly then you can literally just plug-and-play that way.
[17:39] <chuckmoney> Cyde: I think 8.04 comes with one of them.  Not sure
[17:39] <runpain2_> Great deal i need to record sound
[17:39] <PerSeL> anyone here can help me with skype?
[17:40] <awakebyjava> okay, i get this "/bin/sh: less: not found"
[17:40] <chuckmoney> I seriously need to go get lunch but I will brb...this is fun :)
[17:40] <Cyde> chuckmoney: Well I just installed a new internal hard drive that I don't anticipate ever removing.  Fstab is definitely the most logical way to handle it.  I want to be able to depend on it always mounting to the same place, regardless of whether I have a, say, external hard drive attached.
[17:40] <Oprtz> i want to ask abt port forwarding to use ekiga application in ubuntu, how to forward the port in order to change symmeric NAT into Con NAT ?
[17:40] <awakebyjava> i already knew it wasnt being detected, but the install was booted from the disk in the drive, so that is confusing me
[17:40] <dulak> awakebyjava: sudo apt-get install less
[17:41] <ardchoille> Cyde: I just did that yesterday
[17:41] <awakebyjava> "/bin/sh: sudo: not found"
[17:41] <ardchoille> uh oh
[17:41] <kbrandt> graingert: Thank you for the info, probably better just to do a clean install.  Is there a way to force it if I am feeling like being a cowboy?
[17:41] <Reaper> I installed Kubuntu 8.10, and grub was not there? why? now that I removed it, I'm asking before re-installing again.was it because I clicked on skip? lol when it was searching for network timing or something?
[17:41] <Cyde> awakebyjava: What does "echo $SHELL" output?
[17:42] <kbrandt> graingert: Like edit the sources list?
[17:42] <ardchoille> Cyde: I used: /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       2
[17:42] <awakebyjava> i am installing from the alternate xubuntu cd
[17:42] <graingert> kbrandt-> yes not a good idea
[17:42] <Cyde> ardchoille: Is it unimaginative that all of my HD mount points are /a, /b, and /z ?
[17:42] <dulak> awakebyjava: I missed that you were booted off the install cd, my bad on that
[17:42] <awakebyjava> nothing
[17:42] <Cyde> awakebyjava: Ah, if you're still installing then you should be root already, so you won't need sudo.
[17:42] <awakebyjava> so apt-get less?
[17:42] <Skrot-> Hi. Is there a way to figure out which date a system was installed?
[17:42] <Cyde> ardchoille: Here's what I just used:   /dev/sdb1 /b auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[17:42] <dulak> awakebyjava: booted off the cd you can't install less
[17:42] <awakebyjava> okay
[17:42] <graingert> kbrandt-> if you want to keep your documetns you can get 8.10 to crush your existing partition into the minimum possible; then it will copy over settings if you let it
[17:43] <dulak> awakebyjava: you are stuck with more instead of less I think
[17:43] <jimcooncat> robacarp, yes it's got junk, but less junky junk. no openoffice -- it installs abiword and gnumeric instead
[17:43] <awakebyjava> right, i am booting off the cd for low memory systems
[17:43] <Cyde> That's kind of sad not even having less available :-(
[17:43] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: solved... for some reason I've inadvertantly set the root password!!!
[17:43] <Brucee> whats the command to type what version of ubuntu i have for server?
[17:43] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Is there a way to kind of randomize it again?
[17:43] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: oops
[17:43] <Brucee> cat version?
[17:43] <awakebyjava> trying to install xubuntu
[17:43] <awakebyjava> got through region and keyboard layout
[17:43] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: I found out by trying one of the passwords I'd chjanged to, as the root password - thanks to good memoery!
[17:44] <awakebyjava> stuck on trying to find the cdrom
[17:44] <BrickHaus> Skrot-: "uname -a" I believe should tell you
[17:44] <aboSamoor> how can I call files without writing the whole path instead of python ~/code/python/noise/bla.py i want to call them directly python bla.py ??
[17:44] <ardchoille> Cyde: ah, ok, well I just used the fstab entry for /dev/sda1 as a template for my /dev/sdb1
[17:44] <Cyde> ardchoille: I went through the whole man page and assembled all of the options that I felt were appropriate.
[17:44] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: you can lock it with: sudo passwd -l root
[17:44] <ardchoille> Cyde: good job
[17:44] <Cyde> ardchoille: Would've been a lot nicer to just have a GUI with a bunch of checkboxes for each option and a description of what it does.
[17:45] <spY|da> hello
[17:45] <Skrot-> BrickHaus: I think that's the date for when the kernel was built or something
[17:45] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Ok, thanks ;)
[17:45] <ardchoille> Cyde: you should brainstorm that idea, it's nice
[17:45] <Cyde> ardchoille: Well, I've been editing fstab since Red Hat 6, so it's not exactly foreign to me, but I figured there'd be a GUI by now.
[17:45] <randomaction> Brucee: uname -a
[17:45] <Reaper> Cyde? please can you help - I installed Kubuntu 8.10 I assume, and when I restarted, Grub was not there?.( and why I assume? because I clicked on Skip button when I had the option to when it was searching for network timing, something like that )
[17:45] <robacarp> Brucee: cat /etc/lsb-release
[17:45] <BrickHaus> Skrot: hangon
[17:45] <eric_> #join ubuntu-fr
[17:45] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: yppasswd still wants root password tho :(
[17:45] <novato_br> how to shutdown X server graphic
[17:45] <novato_br> ?
[17:45] <ardchoille> Brucee: lsb_release -a
[17:46] <Cyde> Reaper: So the system doesn't boot?
[17:46] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: did you update the yp databases after you locked root?
[17:46] <awakebyjava> i do get a list of stuff when i type in dmesg into the terminal
[17:46] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: DUH!
[17:46] <Reaper> Cyde, I'm directly booted to Xp.
[17:46] <erUSUL> novato_br: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[17:46] <kbrandt> graingert: Okay, I think I will get just go via 8.04.  I am not too woried about data loss because it is just my 'tv' computer
[17:46] <PerSeL> i have problem with audio card?
[17:46] <awakebyjava> though now i have no idea how to get into the installer again
[17:46] <eric_> salut
[17:46] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Nopes, no effect
[17:46] <graingert> kbrandt-> may as well blat it
[17:46] <kbrandt> graingert: But ibex supports my capture card well I think
[17:46] <eric_> comment va,
[17:46] <Reaper> Cyde, btw I installed using the most continous space option.
[17:46] <Cyde> Reaper: Sounds like you'll have to boot off a Live CD to install Grub.
[17:46] <wardlooockx> hello when I boot up I have an very annoying load sound -> get an error of libdrm, I don't need it because i use fglrx...... how can I remove that module ????????
[17:46] <PerSeL> i think it's not that supported by ubuntu
[17:46] <graingert> kbrandt-> try out the live cd
[17:46] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Is it actually the system account its looking for , or a NIS root account somehow?
[17:46] <novato_br> thx, ESUL
[17:47] <sysdoc> hey guys when I run /usr/bin$ sudo vmware-config.pl it get this error: sh: /etc/init.d/vmware: not found. There is no script in init.d/, Can I copy it to that location, and if so how would I accomplish this?
[17:47] <eric_> #ubuntu-fr
[17:47] <Reaper> Cyde, yeah I have the LIVE CD, actually it's there where I installed Kubuntu from.
[17:47] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: not sure what to do there, locking root should have reset it to be just like it was
[17:47] <PerSeL> anyone can help me with audio settings?
[17:47] <Cyde> Reaper: man grub-install
[17:47] <kbrandt> graingert: Know if you can do a cd upgrade remotely by using X ssh tunnel?
[17:47] <Reaper> Cyde, My concern is that the installation option wasn't the mistake?
[17:47] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: SOmething's happened, or I've done sometihng to now require yppasswd to ask for a root password
[17:47] <graingert> kbrandt-> you can do anything with a remote ssh X server
[17:47] <Cyde> Reaper: What, the network something or other?  you can always fix the configuration on that late.r
[17:47] <Exitialis> hmm think imight hv aproblem, the asus site has no drivers for it for linux
[17:48] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: yes and locking root's password should have fixed it, afaik
[17:48] <rajkumar> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[17:48] <Cyde> Reaper: And when editing your new grub.conf, don't forget to include the listings so it'll dual-boot Windows XP.
[17:48] <wangjihu> helllo
[17:48] <eric> arfkdkd
[17:48] <eric> hello
[17:48] <Reaper> Cyde, no, I meant the " Most continous space " option...when you come tot he partitions
[17:48] <rajkumar> hiiiiiiiii to all
[17:48] <randomaction> eric_: try "/join ubuntu-fr" :)
[17:48] <Peter_Swinkels> Hello - Does any one know how I can prevent a user in a "guest session" (I'm using Ubuntu 8.10) from accessing for example, my Windows partitions?
[17:48] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: check root in /etc/shadow on the server, see if the first character of the second field is a !
[17:48] <scunizi> sysdoc: sudo ./<and the rest>
[17:48] <Guest71718> I want to go in à french tchat
[17:48] <awakebyjava> heh
[17:48] <wangjihu> 我是中国人，各位多指教
[17:48] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Yes it is
[17:48] <awakebyjava> typed exit and it exited
[17:48] <Cyde> Reaper: Sorry, I don't know what "Most continuous space" means.  Is that a disk partitioning option?
[17:48] <erUSUL> !fr | Guest71718
[17:49] <Ximal> Can any op here help me with an issue that comes with an untimely find that someone has used some kind of logger or rootkit to get my private information...  I need to figure out how to scan for the kit or trojan or possible "virus" ?
[17:49] <erUSUL> !cn | wangjihu
[17:49] <awakebyjava> forgot how much i like linux
[17:49] <Sylphid|work> is it possible to rate limit bandwidth on a network interface without tc?
[17:49] <Guest71718> #ubuntu-fr
[17:49] <erUSUL> !info trickle | Sylphid|work
[17:49] <Reaper> Cyde, when you are installing you have several options, like Guided disk, or manual...and I remember it was the most continous disk space. where you have a free space on your HD, not partitioned, and Kubuntu automatically installs on.
[17:49] <kevor> hi there, just installed 8.10, but my Location menu items are opened with nautilus-cd-burner....
[17:49] <scunizi> Guest71718: do a "/j #ubuntu-fr"
[17:49] <ardchoille> Ximal: there are two good rootkit scanners in the reops: rkhunter  and  chkrootkit
[17:50] <kbrandt> graingert: Okay, thank you for your help!
[17:50] <Cyde> ardchoille: Ooooh, look what I found:  http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/323/
[17:50] <Flannel> Ximal: Also, use a liveCD
[17:50] <Sylphid|work> erUSUL, unfortunately i dont believe that will work for me
[17:50] <hulp> Hi guys, how can I run a comand on the desktop, something like root-tail does with a file. What I want to do is to run top.
[17:50] <hulp> any program that can do that?
[17:50] <erUSUL> Sylphid|work: why
[17:50] <Cyde> So there is a GUI for editing fstab called disk-manager (available from apt), but it doesn't come in the default install.
[17:50] <Sylphid|work> erUSUL, as i dont have the option to install additional packages
[17:50] <DIFH-iceroot> hulp: can do what?
[17:51] <robacarp> hulp: you can run top from a terminal window on the desktop
[17:51] <awakebyjava> so, any ideas?
[17:51] <dulak> Twinkletoes|W: not sure what to do to fix it
[17:51] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Ok, thanks for your help though ;)
[17:51] <Cyde> hulp: xtail maybe?
[17:51] <ardchoille> Cyde: nice find!
[17:51] <hulp> robacarp, I want something like root-tail or root-portal
[17:51] <BrickHaus> Skrot-: srry.. not sure how you do that on Ubuntu.. On Gentoo I can tell but not on ubuntu. Maybe else has an idea of how that date could be closed in on.. let me know if you find out..
[17:51] <Sylphid|work> erUSUL, is it possible to set a hard limit with iptables.... not limiting packets/s but bits/s
[17:51] <Cyde> ardchoille: If you have a Brainstorm account, please vote it up.
[17:51] <Skrot-> BrickHaus: okay :)
[17:51] <ironmedic> hi guys, i tried to install open office on intrepid and it would not install.  then i get the "failed to initialize hal" on x-server restart
[17:52] <erUSUL> Sylphid|work: dunno
[17:52] <hardwired> how can I remove a package with apt-get when it is in status "rc" ?
[17:52] <prince_jammys> hardwired: purge
[17:52] <Sylphid|work> erUSUL, or something in the general interface config
[17:52] <hulp> Cyde, xtail will read a file, what I want to do is to run a command
[17:53] <prince_jammys> hardwired: apt-get --purge  or apt-get purge (i don't remember which) OR: aptitude purge
[17:53] <robacarp> hardwired: apt-get purge
[17:53] <hardwired> prince_jammys: nope, that only works before they get into the status of "rc"
[17:53] <_PeskyJ> what is device sr0? I just built a new PC and put in the ubuntu disc and it's saying I/O errors on sr0
[17:53] <prince_jammys> hardwired: aptitude will purge them.
[17:53] <awakebyjava> right now i am on ubuntu installer main menu
[17:53] <sysdoc> scunizi, same result
[17:53] <kevor> my Location menu items are opened with "nautilus-cd-burner --iso=/home/location", anyone know how I can change this?
[17:54] <ironmedic> does anyone have experience with installing open office on intrepid and it does not install?
[17:54] <ardchoille> Cyde: will do
[17:54] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: an optical drive dvd/cdrom
[17:54] <hardwired> prince_jammys: ah cool,m yes, aptitude works
[17:54] <PerSeL> who can help me with audio settings?
[17:54] <sysdoc> scunizi, /etc/init.d/vmware does not exist
[17:54] <prince_jammys> hardwired: i'm surprised apt-get didn't.
[17:54] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: well that's odd
[17:55] <jgonick> Exitialis: have you tried to reconfigure the x-server?
[17:55] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: what's odd?
[17:55] <_PeskyJ> I have an athlon 64 x2 6000+ - I am using the amd64 version, is that correct?
[17:55] <ardchoille> Cyde: voted :) Thanks for the info
[17:55] <ironmedic> i tried to download open office through the add/remove programs and it will not install on intrepid
[17:55] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: in your dmesg log you will see something about a CD rom. If you don't then you need to make sure the power and IDE cables are snuggly in place inside your mobo.. Unless it's a laptop. But you will see something about a CDrom in that log if it's detected. If it's not detected then it's a ide/power connectivity issue. If it is detected then you'll see it with possibly error message associated with it.
[17:56] <BrickHaus> woops.. srry
[17:56] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: odd that it was booting from the CD then started with errors
[17:56] <BrickHaus> didn't mean to flood that
[17:56] <erUSUL> ironmedic: oo.org is installed by default
[17:56] <ironmedic> i have xubuntu and it is not installed
[17:56] <gryfone> salve c'è qualcuno che parla italiano per cortesia?
[17:56] <erUSUL> !it | gryfone
[17:57] <gryfone> thanks
[17:57] <Exitialis> jgonick: whats the x-server?
[17:57] <ironmedic> the guy who hits the ball back to you in tennis
[17:57] <ironmedic> :)
[17:57] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: I have to go. If you find something let whom ever is helping you that you indeed verified in dmesg that your cd is dected. cya
[17:57] <Pe1o> Exitialis, x is the programe that manages displays
[17:58] <Exitialis> Pelo: how do i reconfigure it?
[17:58] <erUSUL> Exitialis: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[17:58] <Pe1o> Exitialis,  what erUSUL said
[17:59] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: you also need to preface your responses with the persons name who's helping you so they can easily identify the message if for them and not 1 of th 1500 others in this room
[17:59] <Exitialis> eh? first time linux user here, whats tht do and where do i type it? :S
[17:59] <erUSUL> !terminal | Exitialis
[17:59] <Exitialis> thanks :)
[17:59] <BrickHaus> Exitialis: tht ? Where are you seeing that?
[17:59] <awakebyjava> brickhaus: right, thanks. there is nothing about cdrom in the logs.
[17:59] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: do you think it's a hardware issue or dodgy disc?
[17:59] <jgonick> Exitialis:  check your ect/x11/xorg.conf file and see what it says.  This is where your monitor and video driver info is.
[18:00] <scunizi> sysdoc: what are you trying to do with vmware.. start it? install it? recompile it for your kernel?
[18:00] <c4_lmmx> hi
[18:00] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: well i can not see the disc surface from here my crystal ball is broken ;P. Seriously can be the disc; th drive or even a kernel bug concerning the sata/ide chip. hard to tell
[18:01] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: then I suspect that either your IDE cable is inserted into the back of the cdrom incorrectly or it isn't connect firmly to the Motherboard. Either that or the power cable is bad or isn't connected firmly to the back of the cdrom.
[18:01] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: isn't inserted*
[18:01] <Ximal> well i can't can flannel or someone else here tell me what this means >? http://pastebin.com/m7b09b078
[18:01] <sysdoc> scunizi, I just installed it and am trying to configure it now
[18:01] <awakebyjava> Brickhaus: but if that were the case, then how could the cdrom read the install disk?
[18:01] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: never mind.. I said it right the first time
[18:01] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: Nope, I think that's not a reason. Or I can't catch some detail? I just tried as that:
[18:02] <sysdoc> scunizi, but the /etc/init.d/vmware is missing
[18:02] <ardchoille> Ximal: those are normal with rkhunter
[18:02] <Marsjanin> 57 18 * * * DISPLAY=":0.0" && audacious
[18:02] <hans_> Yes, it runs! Thanks for your help!
[18:02] <Marsjanin> 58 18 * * * DISPLAY=":0" && gedit
[18:02] <Marsjanin> 59 18 * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 && galculator
[18:02] <Marsjanin> 00 19 * * * DISPLAY=:0 && amarok
[18:02] <FloodBot3> Marsjanin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <scunizi> sysdoc: sorry I gotta go.. check #vmware for more info.. it should be started already.. and available on the Applications menu
[18:02] <Exitialis> jgonick: theres no river information there :S
[18:02] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: from a terminal do "dmesg | grep -i cdrom" without the quotes. Tell me what you get back
[18:02] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, do any of those work ?
[18:02] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: No. If it did, I'll say that :)
[18:03] <Ximal> what is dev shm ? ardchoille ?
[18:03] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: I will try the i386 disc I burned yesterday for a different machine
[18:03] <sysdoc> scunizi, ok but none of the above are true, l8r
[18:03] <Marsjanin> There's 19:09 NOW on my machine.
[18:03] <Marsjanin> :03 X)
[18:03] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, the only one I see in there that is written properly is the amarok one ,  the others have " where they shoudln't
[18:03] <gavagai> if i want to dual boot with windows, and share a data partition, should i make it FAT or NTFS/
[18:03] <gavagai> ?
[18:03] <awakebyjava> Brickhaus: nothing
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:03] <trekdanne> gavagai, probably ntfs
[18:03] <sysdoc> !repos
[18:03] <ardchoille> Ximal: not sure, but I run rkhunter and chkrootkit on every install before doing anything else and I see those that you posted
[18:04] <dulak> gavagai: ntfs if you have a windows install to boot to for chkdsk, vfat if not
[18:04] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: ok; good luck
[18:04] <Ximal> ok
[18:04] <Ximal> ty
[18:04] <gavagai> trekdanne, so writing to ntfs from linux is foolproof?
[18:04] <gavagai> dulak, i am confused, if i didn't have a windows install why would i use vfat?
[18:05] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: Yup, I just tried out what I can though about it. And that worked with dquotes previously. WHatever, it didn't do the trick for amarok neither.
[18:05] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava:  dmesg | grep -i cd-rom
[18:05] <dulak> gavagai: yeah I thought about that after I hit enter, it was retarded
[18:05] <gavagai> lol
[18:05] <dulak> gavagai: it sounded better in my head
[18:05] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, let me try it out , and get back to you
[18:05] <awakebyjava> ooh
[18:05] <gavagai> but anyway ntfs is 100% ok and safe it sounds like.  i haven't dual booted in like 5 years and back then it was different
[18:06] <Owner> i need some help can someone talk to me
[18:06] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: thanks a lot
[18:06] <shane2peru> where/when can I get the next ubuntu release?
[18:06] <awakebyjava> Brickhaus: whole bunch of info about my drive
[18:06] <jgonick> Exitialis: I would try to reconfigure just to see. what erUSUL said sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:06] <shane2peru> the J one. :)
[18:06] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: heh.. good..
[18:06] <j2daosh> whats up all. so, i got a problem that i dont think any of you will be able to help me with but what the hell. ill ask anyway :P. I have the acer aspire netbook and it only supports a 1024X768 window, but since its a 9" x 5" screen, i cant fit an entire window on the screen for amarok. Is there some way i can force windows to resize to the size of the desktop?
[18:06] <Marsjanin> shane2peru: Next? You mean 9.04?
[18:06] <shane2peru> Marsjanin: right
[18:06] <shane2peru> 9.04
[18:06] <Owner> hello can i get some help from someone
[18:06] <andrei_> i need some help with an audio card. can anyone please help me?
[18:06] <ikonia> shane2peru: it's not made yet
[18:06] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: sorry.. I do need to go. I'll be back in an hour.. use paste bin to paste info to
[18:07] <shane2peru> ikonia: ok, when does dev start?
[18:07] <shane2peru> or alpha release
[18:07] <DracNoc> Owner, if you need to ask something, then just ask. :)
[18:07] <ikonia> shane2peru: a long time
[18:07] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: some will be able to help, I'm confident of that.
[18:07] <shane2peru> ikonia: they only have 6 months. :)
[18:07] <ikonia> shane2peru: so ?
[18:07] <shane2peru> brb
[18:07] <BrickHaus> awakebyjava: if not I will help you when I get back. cya
[18:07] <faria> hello
[18:08] <Marsjanin> shane2peru: The I. I. evolve. :)
[18:08] <faria> can i run any erp software on ubuntu
[18:08] <shane2peru> ikonia: that isn't long time so alpha should be coming out. :)
[18:08] <chuckmoney> gavagai: you might also consider ext2 as an option.  There's a driver available for windows now that has full read/write access to ext2/ext3 linux partitions.  It won't have the same granular permissions that ntfs will, but a LOT of forensics tools (for pulling data off a HDD, i.e. what a hacker or the NSA would use) don't work with ext2/ext3, so you have a higher base level of security that way.
[18:08] <Owner> i just loded ubuntu on the same drive as windows xp...... it would load straight into XP.... i fixed the MBR through the live cd... and now it wont load to windows XP.... when i fix windows MBR it wont load to ubuntu..... can someone help pls
[18:08] <hardwired> for the record: installing nvidia-glx server works like a breeze if you use envyng
[18:08] <ikonia> shane2peru: don't worry about development releases - if you where serious you'd be on the developer mailing list or following development
[18:08] <chuckmoney> gavagai: but only for a data drive.  windows itself should still be on NTFS.
[18:08] <hardwired> I had nothing but trouble installing it without envyng
[18:08] <Exitialis> jgonick: it says this: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[18:08] <Exitialis>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20081107180043
[18:09] <Exitialis> is tht good?
[18:09] <ardchoille> Exitialis: yes, it made a backup in case anything goes wrong, it's a good thing
[18:09] <faria> can i run any business accountung software on ubuntu ??
[18:09] <ikonia> faria does the software have a linux install ?
[18:09] <Pe1o> Marsjanin,  this line works 9 * * * *  export DISPLAY=:0 && rhythmbox  , just change the command at the end for the prog you need
[18:10] <joaopinto> faria, if the software is know to work on Ubuntu, yes :P
[18:10] <faria> ikonia i am asking u
[18:10] <bazhang> !info gnucash
[18:10] <ikonia> faria what software do you want to use /
[18:10] <faria> can u name the software
[18:10] <Exitialis> so do i need to do anything else?
[18:10] <gammy> Silly question: I'm hacking on the ov511 module and I wonder how I can get hold of the kernel configuration (.config) for my currently running (uncustomized) kernel. Where can I get it?
[18:10] <ikonia> faria bazhang gave you a good example
[18:10] <chuckmoney> faria: You might consider Gnucash, though GNUCash is closer to quicken than quickbooks, i.e. more single-person than business.
[18:10] <andrei_> i have a hda_intel integrated audio card (ALC883). when I do a test (System->Preferences->Sound) it looks that everything is ok, but i can't hear nothing... the volumes are at maximum. what could be the problem?
[18:10] <ardchoille> faria: open a terminal and run: apt-cache search accounting
[18:10] <ikonia> gammy: the config is in your boot directory
[18:11] <faria> i need a software with whom i can handle my business acounts and warehouse stockes
[18:11] <Owner> hello andy help here
[18:11] <Owner> any
[18:11] <ikonia> gammy: but I fail to see how the kernel .config file will help you hack on a module, as the .config file has nothing to do with the code
[18:11] <ikonia> Owner: what is the problem
[18:11] <Owner> i just loded ubuntu on the same drive as windows xp...... it would load straight into XP.... i fixed the MBR through the live cd... and now it wont load to windows XP.... when i fix windows MBR it wont load to ubuntu..... can someone help pls
[18:11] <sysdoc> what is the multiverse repo for Intrepid?
[18:11] <Guest44111> I've been using Ubuntu for a while now (~2 years), but have always found that if a dialogue box/window is greyed out, then becomes active again, mouse clicks aren't registered - I have to move the mouse, then click.  Does anyone else have the same problem?
[18:11] <ikonia> Owner you need to give us the error
[18:11] <gammy> ikonia: Sweet, thanks
[18:11] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: 'export'. I just try it out.
[18:12] <jgonick> Exitialis: It makes a backup file.  xorg.conf.20081107.... so if it messes up you can replace the xorg.conf file with the backup.. it would put it back like it was before you reconfigured.
[18:12] <joaopinto> !repositories | sysdoc
[18:12] <kara> #CAcert
[18:12] <gavagai> chuckmoney, thanks!
[18:12] <erUSUL> gammy: if you build th ekernel yourself you must have it in the kernel source directory
[18:12] <Owner> ntrl cant load press cnrtl at del to restart
[18:12] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: same problem, so it must be a hardware or driver issue
[18:12] <ikonia> Owner: the most common cause for that is you didn't chkdsk your windows parttiion before installing ubuntu
[18:12] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, sorry, I should have noticed earlier,  bit busy here
[18:12] <Owner> yeah i didnt so what do ido now
[18:13] <ikonia> Owner: you'll need to repair windows with a windows install cd
[18:13] <Owner> and then would it be ok
[18:13] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: yes; but that information does not solve the problem... :/
[18:13] <jgonick> Exitialis: need to reboot x-server.  Just reboot your computer..
[18:13] <ikonia> Owner: I would hope so
[18:13] <Owner> lol
[18:13] <khaotik> does anyone know why when i loaded intrepid i no longer have a wlan0 only a eth0 and eth1?
[18:13] <awakebyjava> Okay, so Brickhaus was trying to help me. How can i make this cdrom show up for install? Anyone?
[18:13] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: any way to diagnose it? is there a safe terminal sor something to try and figure it out?
[18:13] <ikonia> khaotik: udev rules changed proably
[18:13] <andrei_> ikonia: do you have a moment?
[18:13] <Owner> if i reinstall windows in the same partition again would it be better
[18:13] <ikonia> andrei_: what's up ?
[18:13] <ikonia> Owner: repair - not re-install
[18:13] <khaotik> this does not allow me to use the iwlist scan
[18:13] <andrei_> i need a little help
[18:14] <ikonia> andrei_: explain the problem
[18:14] <andrei_> i told you on private
[18:14] <ikonia> khaotik: what card do you have
[18:14] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: are you using the livecd?
[18:14] <khaotik> broadcom 43xx
[18:14] <chuckmoney> jgonick: Just in case you didn't know he could do Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (I figure you're trying to make it simple for him but that will restart just x, a bit faster.)
[18:14] <ikonia> andrei_: tell me in here, I don't have pm's enabled
[18:14] <andrei_> ikonia: i have a hda_intel integrated audio card (ALC883). when I do a test (System->Preferences->Sound) it looks that everything is ok, but i can't hear nothing... the volumes are at maximum. what could be the problem?
[18:14] <Owner> ok before that can i use a GUI based loader program in ubuntu to load both windows and ubuntu...any third party prograns
[18:14] <awakebyjava> i need to get the info about my cdrom into somewhere?
[18:14] <ikonia> !sound > andrei_
[18:15] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: the install cd.. tried to install and tried to "TRY WITHOUT MAKING CHANGES" SAME PROBLEM
[18:15] <ikonia> andrei_: work through the troubleshooting link ubottu sent you
[18:15] <jgonick> Chuckmoney: you are correct...
[18:15] <pw-toxic> hi - i have just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my raid1 beside windows... after successfully installing it, i rebootet, but windows starts without asking me which operating system i want to use
[18:15] <khaotik>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[18:15] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: My fault. I though You wrote the "export" cmd to do some seek (like grep e.g.). I don't know all the unix commands well. :)
[18:16] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: you do not get to a working system? then there nothing you can do... maybe trying with the hardy install and then upgrade ? it will take more time but...
[18:16] <ikonia> khaotik doesn't that need a closed source driver ?
[18:16] <pw-toxic> any suggestions?
[18:16] <erUSUL> andrei_: what program fails?
[18:16] <Guest44111> pwtoxic: google grub
[18:16] <Guest44111> !grub | pwtoxic
[18:16] <chuckmoney> andrei_: do what ikonia said and use the troubleshooter but if that fails and/or it isn't in the troubleshooter try turning up the volume for "PCM" as well as the master volume.  May not work but give it a shot, and don't forget to try things around 50% so if it works you don't bust them.
[18:17] <Owner> he is having the same problem as i am
[18:17] <GullibleJones> Hello
[18:17] <khaotik> yes it does. amazingly it found and installed the correct one that i needed without me having to modify it.
[18:17] <uman> Hi there. I currently use ubuntu 8.04 and wanted to upgrade to 8.10. I have the alternate cd iso mounted but wanted to know if i would lose all my 3rd party installed apps like converstation, filezilla, amsn,etc when upgrading. Thanks
[18:17] <GullibleJones> I've got a problem doing a minimal install of Intrepid
[18:17] <Owner> i restrore grub and then it wont load windows
[18:17] <rockstar92> umm not to ad to the unorganized chatter but why does linux have a hard time connecting to a passworded network or a local one
[18:17] <GullibleJones> The install aborts because base-passwd won't install, it says "permission denied"
[18:17] <GullibleJones> How do I force the install?
[18:17] <sysdoc> Ok did vmware not make it to the Intrepid repos?
[18:17] <ikonia> Owner: I didn't say restore grub - I said you need to repair the windows install
[18:18] <bobbiem> can anyone help me? i am trying to install java for ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I have tried to follow the help, but still nothing!
[18:18] <Guest44111> uman: Do you have a separate partition for /home?
[18:18] <erUSUL> Owner: it fails to load it or simply lacks an entry to load it?
[18:18] <uman> guest4411, i do indeed
[18:18] <pw-toxic> uman: i have done what you did and my filezilla still works
[18:18] <chuckmoney> Owner: then after you restore grub add windows back to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:18] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: I get to the option menu (1. try ubuntu, 2. install, 3. check CD for defects, etc.) then if I pick anything that tries to load ubuntu it comes with the error
[18:18] <Owner> how do i do that chukmoney
[18:19] <joaopinto> uman, if those apps were installed from the repositories they should upgrade just fine
[18:19] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: i see... the error prevents ubuntu for loading properly so there is no terminal or anything aviable yet
[18:19] <chuckmoney> Owner: edit it with a text editor.  use something like gedit or nano.  but be VERY CAREFUL if you're not comfortable with it, else you will lose grub and have to restore it again.
[18:19] <andrei_> erUSUL: i'm making a test in System->Preferences->Sound and at Sound Playback I select ALC883 Analog and then I hit Test. it apeares another window and a progress bar goes from one side to the other (so I don't get no error) but I hear no sound
[18:19] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: well whatever minimal system is in place to display the menu at least
[18:19] <Marsjanin> 17 19 * * * export DISPLAY=:0 && amarok ─ and I'm afraid SOA#1, Pe1o. Also tried with doublequotes and .0 ...
[18:20] <chuckmoney> Owner: also, as erUSUL would tell you, if you have windows listed on the boot menu, your problem is most likely not in menu.lst.
[18:20] <sysdoc> Has anyone found vmware in the repos/
[18:20] <rockstar92> my compy cant connect to a wireless network that is passworded, and yes i know the password... can i change that?
[18:20] <bobbiem> can someone please tell me how to install java for ubuntu 6.06
[18:20] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, ????
[18:20] <chuckmoney> Owner: editing menu.lst will only help if it's not listed there
[18:20] <maxxist_> sysdoc  you should really give virtualbox a try its awesome.
[18:20] <andrei_> in alsa-mixer all volumes are at maximum
[18:21] <Owner> its listed in menu.lst i checked
[18:21] <erUSUL> andrei_: oops i thought you hear the test but other apps failed...
[18:21] <andrei_> no :(
[18:21] <sysdoc> maxxist_, does it freaking work?? lol
[18:21] <Pe1o> Marsjanin,  copy/paste exactly                         25 * * * *  export DISPLAY=:0 && amarok
[18:21] <rockstar92> ummm... about that wireless...
[18:21] <Marsjanin> Whops. SAA#1? "Standard Admin's Answer no. 1: That works fine for me".
[18:21] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: in the multiverse repos there is a free vmware player.  it will run existing vmwares but won't let you make new ones.  vmware doesn't release a .deb package for ubuntu so you'll have to compile one from their source.  and pay for it, of course.
[18:22] <Owner> is there is thrird party loader i can use in ubuntu
[18:22] <j2daosh> anyone know how to force windows sizes?
[18:22]  * Marsjanin copies
[18:22] <maxxist_> sysdoc it works really really well.  if you goto virtualbox.org and get the 2.04 .deb   I have been using it since 2.0  and have had no problems.
[18:22] <graingert> sysdoc-> you should use virtualbox
[18:22] <genii> bobbiem: Sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[18:22] <RickZilla> Answering my own question from earlier:  If you want to use a Wacom tablet with ubuntu, check this out:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[18:22] <FFForever> how do i install ath5k module in ubuntu 8.04?
[18:22] <_PeskyJ> erUSUL: it displays the progress bar, then gets as far as BusyBox built in shell (ash) then it says (initramfs) [ <numbers> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector <numbers> repeatedly
[18:22] <graingert> sysdoc-> get the virtualbox repository then it will auto update
[18:22] <rockstar92> should i even bother with my question?...
[18:22] <andrei_> erUSUL: can u help me please? i really don't know what to do anymore...
[18:23] <FFForever> someone anyone?
[18:23] <genii> bobbiem: Use Tab key to change fileds when it asks about license agreement, Enter to selct "OK" or so
[18:23] <pw-toxic> anyone experience in installing ubuntu with raid1?
[18:23] <erUSUL> _PeskyJ: well the initramfs shell has some commands but i do not think there is somthing we can do from it to debug the issue
[18:23] <ardchoille> rockstar92: it won't get answered unless you ask :)
[18:23] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: maxxist_ is correct also.  virtualbox is really good too.  If you need to import an existing vmware machine from another computer use the free vmware player from the multiverse repo, else, use virtualbox
[18:23] <maxxist_> sysdoc in fact I am right now using xchat under xubuntu in ubuntu
[18:23] <tsop> Anyone would happen to know a fix for my keyboard? It suddenly stopped working, I've tried rebooting a few times now, its odd that at the KDM window it will work, but as soon as I'm /in/ the keyboard doesn't work at all.
[18:23] <Slart> pw-toxic: I haven't done it myself but I've seen quite a few tutorials on the net
[18:23] <jgonick> sysdoc: there is a free version of vmware server out there.. I switched to virtualbox..seems easier to me..
[18:23] <bobbiem> genii, i tried that and it said command not found
[18:23] <Slart> pw-toxic: have you checked the alternate install cd? it might have some nice functionality for it
[18:24] <kara> #CAcert
[18:24] <graingert> !info virtualbox-ose | sysdoc
[18:24] <pw-toxic> Slart: do you know if it has anything to do with the raid1 that ubuntu doesnt appear in the OS boot menu?
[18:24]  * Marsjanin waits for :25
[18:24] <chuckmoney> FFForever: not sure.  if it's in the repos just use apt-get or synaptic.  otherwise, do apt-get build-essential and compile it from source.
[18:24] <genii> bobbiem: Give exact error please
[18:24] <Exitialis> jgonick: so how do i reconfigure this file? theres no mention of resolutions or anything technical in it :S
[18:24] <kara> #CAcert
[18:24] <Slart> pw-toxic: you mean grub? or some other os boot menu?
[18:24] <rockstar92> tsop: if im not mistaken there is a couple buttons you can press that lock your key board try looking for those
[18:24] <pw-toxic> Slart: i have just isntalled ubuntu with selecting the hard drive myself... 30GB for "/" and   4GB swap
[18:25] <pw-toxic> Slart:  no i mean there isnt any boot menu
[18:25] <joaopinto> FFEMTcJ, the ath5k driver is available from the linux*backports* package
[18:25] <erUSUL> PeskyJ: but if the cdrom works in that other OS it may be a kernel bug. if that's th case you may want to try installing hardy instead of intrepid and upgrade
[18:25] <PeskyJ> erUSUL: does that mean the sr0 device is the ramfs device?
[18:25] <PerSeL> how can i change colors?
[18:25] <rcahilig> Hi, I have a Ubuntu 8.04 firewall/gateway server for our LAN. The server has a layer7, ipp2p and tinyproxy installed. Since I only have 512kbit bandwidth, I want to shape the traffic using tc/htb. What I want to do is to prioritize and give http a highier bandwidth (384) and give the remaining bandwidth to other application such as p2p or ftp. I am new to tc/htb, please help me how to write script for this. Thanks
[18:25] <kara> #cacert
[18:25] <pw-toxic> Slart: windows just starts without asking me which one i want to boot
[18:25] <PerSeL> i found how do i change resolution
[18:25] <rand0m> hrmm.. all video (whether an avi file played in VLC media player) or flash videos.. any video plays really choppy and the audio is skipping and everything is very very slow... im assuming it's myd rivers
[18:25] <PerSeL> but not colors
[18:25]  * Marsjanin HAS GOT amarok installed :]
[18:25] <rand0m> but how do I fix it?
[18:25] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, multiverse repo I'm not seeing that repo for Intrepid
[18:25] <pw-toxic> Slart: but now i think ubuntu just doesnt know where my windows was installed...
[18:25] <Slart> pw-toxic: hmm.. are you sure the install finished? you didn't chose not to install grub?
[18:25] <genii> bobbiem: Also, multiverse repository needs to be enabled ahead of this if not already
[18:26] <erUSUL> PeskyJ: no as i said /dev/sr0 is the cdrom drive (modern kernels see all ide sata usb etc as scsi drives hence the device name)
[18:26] <pw-toxic> Slart: well i wasnt asked anything about grub
[18:26] <sysdoc> jgonick, I just installed vmware 2.0 from the vmware site
[18:26] <maxxist_> sysdoc just grab the deb from virtualbox.org  it is well tested with ubuntu
[18:26] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: may not be one for intrepid yet.  packages in multiverse are packages released without any available source code, almost always from companies.  unless vmware has made a deb for inptepid yet, there won't be one.
[18:26] <PeskyJ> erUSUL: ahh ok.
[18:26] <Some_ux> I need a bit of help with the Ubuntu packaging system. I found that the Hardy Heron xl2tp package has a show stopping bug. The solution is to recompile the source for that package using a modified Makefile. Unfortunately, I don't know how to do that. Any useful guides out there ?
[18:26] <acke> hey, are there any config files for boot camp? to be used when boot camp no longer recognizes the drives on my mac.. .P
[18:26] <DjVMint> hey there, anyone got skills with pulseaudio?
[18:26] <jgonick> Exitialis: In you menu there is screen resolution.  Have you checked to see if it added more resolutions?
[18:27] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, yea I had to alien the rpm package from their site
[18:27] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: Huh, that not works at all. :( All the command like wget works.
[18:27] <PeskyJ> erUSUL: I guess I'll have to try a different OS to see if it's a kernel/driver issue... I could try knoppix
[18:27] <Marsjanin> SO, the cron is running.
[18:27] <andrei_> i'm making a test in System->Preferences->Sound and at Sound Playback I select ALC883 Analog and then I hit Test. it apeares another window and a progress bar goes from one side to the other (so I don't get no error) but I hear no sound
[18:27] <Exitialis> jgonick: nope stillmaxing out at 800x640
[18:27] <erUSUL> PeskyJ: yep or another ubuntu version
[18:27] <Slart> pw-toxic: hmm.. I don't install ubuntu enough it seems =) usually it installs grub, puts ubuntu and windows in the grub boot up menu and lets you choose when you boot.. I doubt having raid1 would stop this from working but I can't say I'm sure
[18:27] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, pastebin your crontab for me please
[18:27] <sysdoc> maxxist_, will vbmount and run an install of xp on another partition?
[18:27] <z0d14k> Is there a way to do authenticated podcasts in rhythmbox?
[18:27] <Pe1o> !pastebin | Marsjanin
[18:27] <PerSeL> hello how do i change colors in ubuntu to 1024X768 32bit
[18:27] <pw-toxic> Slart: yes i know.. i have done this once with my notebook and everything worked
[18:28] <chuckmoney> not sure who asked a minute ago about their raid1 but a raid device will always be md#, i.e. md0.  you will have to configure grub to use /dev/md0 as the root.  usually the best solution is to make a separate partition for /boot (and for swap), and then put everything else in the raid.
[18:28] <Slart> pw-toxic: see above
[18:28] <maxxist_> sysdoc possibly you would have to check the docs.  sorry i dont run it that way.
[18:28]  * Marsjanin does crontab -l and pastes it someplace else :P
[18:28] <bobbiem> genii, how do i enable multiverse repository?
[18:28] <erUSUL> bobbiem: System>Admin>Softwre sources
[18:29] <frank__> join #ubuntu_br
[18:29] <Slart> !repos
[18:29] <rand0m> hrmm.. all video (whether an avi file played in VLC media player) or flash videos.. any video plays really choppy and the audio is skipping and everything is very very slow... im assuming it's myd rivers
[18:29] <rand0m> but how do I fix it?
[18:29] <PerSeL> can anyone read what i write?
[18:29] <Xpistos> Is there a way to take a drive in a windows computer and mount it as a folder in my linux system?
[18:29] <Slart> PerSeL: yes
[18:29] <pw-toxic> Slart: well the raid1 thing was a trick to get an answer anyway ;) i also dont think raid1 is the problem ^
[18:29] <PerSeL> slart can you help me with my problem?
[18:29] <rand0m> also - i didn't have this issue with ubuntu 8.04
[18:29] <Xpistos> Is there a way to take a drive in a NETWORKED windows computer and mount it as a folder in my linux system?
[18:30] <Slart> pw-toxic: you could always try reinstalling grub from a live cd.. it's one or two commands iirc
[18:30] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: yes.  add it to fstab and reboot or just run a normal mount command.  you may want to install the ntfs-3g package if you don't have it already.
[18:30] <Slart> PerSeL: what kind of graphics card are you using?
[18:30] <unop> Xpistos, sure, see mount.cifs(1) and mount.smbfs(1)
[18:30] <Owner> if he reinstalls grub from live cd his wondows wont work
[18:30] <PerSeL> Slart: for real i don't know it's a screen comp, i hope you know what i mean
[18:30] <Owner> same situation as me
[18:30] <Slart> PerSeL: what happens if you try clicking system, preferences, screen resolution.. can you change it there?
[18:30] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: yeah, what unop said, if it's a networked drive.
[18:31] <harushimo> my burner cd rom drive doesn't work in hardy heron
[18:31] <PerSeL> yes  i can
[18:31] <Marsjanin> Pe1o, http://www.nopaste.pl/7aq - this is ACTUALLY my crontab... I "played" with #testy section now.
[18:31] <harushimo> how do I get to recognize I have the drive
[18:31] <jgonick> Exitialis:  in the xorg.conf what does it say in section"monitor"  section"screen"
[18:31] <Slart> PerSeL: does that solve your problem?
[18:31] <Xpistos> chuckmoney I am not sure what mount.cifs means?
[18:31] <harushimo> it was working fine in Gutsy Gibbon
[18:31] <pw-toxic> Slart: the problem is that i'm in fear that my bootleader kills my windows and i cant boot windows again ;)
[18:31] <PerSeL> i can change resolution
[18:31] <PerSeL> not colors
[18:31] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, gimme a minute
[18:31] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Is this a command or script?
[18:31] <Exitialis> Section "Monitor"
[18:31] <Exitialis> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[18:31] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: cifs is the common internet file system.  it's the underlying system below SMB or SAMBA, the windows networking system
[18:32] <pw-toxic> Slart:  how did you isntall ubuntu? did you choose the partitions yourself where to install ubuntu?
[18:32] <Exitialis> Section "Screen"
[18:32] <Exitialis> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[18:32] <Exitialis> 	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
[18:32] <Exitialis> 	Device		"Configured Video Device"
[18:32] <FloodBot3> Exitialis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <noodlesgc> !paste
[18:32] <PerSeL> slart: no i want to change colors not resolution
[18:32] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Thanks I will give that a try
[18:32] <Slart> pw-toxic: ah.. grub is very nice when it comes to other operating systems.... even if it doesn't create a boot menu choice you can easily add it yourself
[18:32] <egoflux> anyone use kdm?
[18:32] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: which means the command would be something like mount -t cifs or such.  for the mount command, it's just a filesystem type.
[18:32] <Xpistos> unop: Thank you as well
[18:32] <LjL> !anyone | egoflux
[18:32] <shawng_work>  any one know how to remove this message from ubuntu "Graph this data and manage this system at https://landscape.canonical.com/" when you login to the ssh shell .
[18:32] <egoflux> lol
[18:32] <FFForever> how do i install the kernel restricted modules?
[18:32] <Slart> PerSeL: ah.. you're right.. there's only resolution there.. hang on.. let me check
[18:33] <Twerk^> 'lo all
[18:33] <UserC> can anyone recommend me of a program for recording sounds from the computer? (internet and such)
[18:33] <LjL> FFForever: they usually get installed by default
[18:33] <mEck0> hi! I tried the encrypted private folder in ubuntu 8.10, but want to uninstall it now. how can I do it? I can't unmount the folder now, got a message telling me its busy or something :(
[18:33] <chuckmoney> shawng_work: try editing /etc/motd
[18:33] <unop> shawng_work, it's probably taken from /etc/motd or /etc/motd.tail
[18:33] <noodlesgc> FFForever just open synaptic and search for linux-restricted-moudles and remove it
[18:33] <shawng_work> i did chuck
[18:33] <FFForever> ljl it says ath5k should be in there....
[18:33] <shawng_work> its not in either of thos 2 files
[18:33] <unop> shawng_work, /etc/issue perhaps?
[18:33] <UserC> can anyone recommend me of a program for recording sounds from the computer? (internet and such)
[18:34] <noodlesgc> FFForever nvm I thought you said uninstall
[18:34] <LjL> UserC, it's not trivial. there was a program that could do that in some cases, but it's no longer in the repositories and it's very updated. you could *probably* do it with an appropriate ALSA configuration file, but i'm not entirely sure how
[18:34] <kylepike> hehe sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. kinda happy right now. ugrading to 8.10 fixed my docking station lockup issues :-).
[18:34] <chuckmoney> shawng_work: no idea then.  it must be something that runs on login, maybe in .bashrc or something.  try killing whatever program it's running on login.
[18:34] <LjL> UserC: i suppose i could try to dig up some links from last time i investigated that
[18:34] <sysdoc> Ok in the repos for intrepid, universe and multiverse have been replaced with 'partmer' and 'partner (source code)'??
[18:34] <kane77> hi, I have slight problem with compiz.. sometimes the windows' toolbar gets blank (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdn0.png the window with the game and the upper terminal window..) does anyone know what to do to fix it?
[18:35] <LjL> sysdoc: no, partner is a different thing, it's mostly for commercial/proprietary applications, and it's Canonical's repository
[18:35] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: yes
[18:35] <Slart> PerSeL: hmm.. I can't really find anywhere to change the colour depth in ubuntu.. you might have to edit the X11 configuration file by hand.. or you could ask the channel again.. you want to change the colour depth to 32bit (or 24 bits, it's the same)
[18:35] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: partner and miltiverse should be one and the same...I think.
[18:35] <noodlesgc> UserC if you have the right cable, you could just put a chord from the headphone jack into the line-in and use audacity
[18:35] <UserC> LjL: that would help but you don't have to if it's that complex.. lol
[18:35] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night, including a new kernel, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working
[18:35] <LjL> chuckmoney: wait, really?
[18:35] <UserC> noodlesgc: i had such a cable.. can't find it
[18:35] <izzy200198> i cant install 8.10. bet busybox. although 8.04 installs no problem
[18:36] <chuckmoney> LiL: I do believe they are the same but I may be wrong.  I know both contain software which is commercial software.
[18:36] <jgonick> Exitialis: I'm not sure what to try next.. I know you can manually edit xorg.conf but it gets over my head fast.  sorry
[18:36] <pw-toxic> can someone tell me what mount point i have to enter when installing ubuntu?
[18:36] <harushimo> anyone know how to fix  a hardware problem
[18:36] <LjL> chuckmoney: in previous versions, "partner" was quite different from "multiverse" (and i wasn't aware of a "partmer" repository)
[18:36] <Exitialis> no worries, thanks for trying :)
[18:37] <Some_ux> I have no idea how to compile an Ubuntu package, and even less how to install it. I am hoping it is not more complicated than writing Make Install. Never tried this sort of maneuver on Linux. I especially don't understand what files i need from the http://packages.ubuntu.com/ site.
[18:37] <harushimo> my dvd burner doesn't in Hardy Heron but it worked in Gutsy gibbon
[18:37] <pw-toxic> there is /, /boot, /home, /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local     what do these folders mean?
[18:37] <dmsuperman> gnome-do keeps crashing for me. Here is stderr / stdout for the few minutes leading up to the crash: http://pastebin.com/d2ef5eac6 it happens regularly, and without me even using gnome-do
[18:37] <LjL> chuckmoney: it used to be that "multiverse" contained patent-encumbered software more than actually proprietary software, and even when it contained proprietary software, it had to satisfy some requirements of distributability
[18:37] <Twerk^> Exitialis: whats your problem with xorg.conf?
[18:37] <turtle_> is there beg difference between RHCT and Ubuntu knowledge?
[18:37] <joaopinto> chuckmoney, multiverse does not contain comercial software
[18:37] <hardwired> how can I check whether my nvidia-glx is installed properly and working?
[18:37] <LjL> chuckmoney: "partner" on the other hand could contain just about anything as long as there was an agreement between canonical and whoever
[18:37] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, so, the virtualbox-ose ver 2.0.4-dfsg-0ubuntu1 is the correct ver??? ubottu reflects "In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-dfsg-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 6089 kB, installed size 20660 kB"
[18:37] <brand0con> Some_ux: what are you trying to install
[18:37] <Slart> hardwired: run glxgears in a terminal and see what kind of info it prints out
[18:37] <Zoem> pw-toxic: at the very least, you need to have a / mountpoint. this is the root directory that is the base of your filesystem
[18:37] <RolfCoptr> does nvidia glx support stereovision? (found no info bout it)
[18:37] <Twerk^> hardwired: glxgears
[18:37] <chuckmoney> LjL: You are probably right actually.  The gstreamer MP3 plugin is most definately not partner but would be multiverse so I'm not sure why multiverse would have disappeared in intrepid.
[18:38] <LjL> chuckmoney: i just checked "vlc" for instance, and it's still in multiverse as it's always been
[18:38] <Neurosyn> I've got a question, can someone walk me through mounting my windows partition so I can access it, and make sure it's mounted on start up?
[18:38] <pw-toxic> Zoem and how does ubuntu know where to boot from?
[18:38] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, ok I just corrected your crontab,  removed a bunch of your test, fixed everyting else that I could figure out ,  test it , just change the time on the last line to check   http://paste.ubuntu.com/68940/  ,  I'm not sure about your wit2000 line,  you might have to make a bash script to start it and  have crontab launch the script instead of the app directly
[18:38] <LjL> chuckmoney: i don't think it has, at least according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ it definitely has not
[18:38] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: I just run qemu for my emulating needs.  I'm not sure what the latest virtualbox or vmware is.
[18:38] <hardwired> Twerk^: ok, trying
[18:38] <yofel> Hi, has anybody got 'WPA2 & WPA2 Enterprise' woring with TLS? I can't get the 'connect' button enabled :(
[18:38] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, ok thx
[18:38] <Pici> Some_ux: Ubuntu packages are not compiled, if you get them from the package repositories they are binaries.
[18:38] <pw-toxic> Zoem i have used 30Gb Ext3 with "/" and 4GB SWAP ... ubuntu got successfully installed but if i start the computer there is no boot asker, and he just starts windows
[18:38] <chuckmoney> LjL: sysdoc said he didn't have a multiverse available on intrepid.  if he does, great.
[18:39] <sysdoc> chuckmoney, I just banged it in here, lol
[18:39] <LjL> Pici: err, so they *are* compiled ;)
[18:39] <pw-toxic> Zoem: do you know what "/boot" is for?
[18:39] <LjL> chuckmoney: right, i think he's a bit confused though
[18:39] <Zoem> pw-toxic: did you install windows before ubuntu?
[18:39] <xman> hi all, i need to do port forwarding for particular range of ports can any one tell me ho to do that?
[18:39] <sharperguy> Anyone happen to know what the intel wifi driver (kernel module) is called (used in the inspiron 6400)?
[18:39] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: If ANY SIMPLE X-window app starts, like gedit or amarok, then I'll testing others :)
[18:39] <pw-toxic> Zoem: yes
[18:39] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: have you installed grub or another bootloader?
[18:39] <LjL> sysdoc: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list so i can understand this better?
[18:39] <Marsjanin> Thenx
[18:39] <Marsjanin> Thanx
[18:39] <pw-toxic> Twerk how can i do this?
[18:39] <hardwired> Twerk^: I don't have that command
[18:39] <Voltaplein> Quick question,: running 8.10 on a desktop with no wireless, yet wpa-supplicant is running.  What is the best way to tell ubuntu that I don't want wireless networking enabled?
[18:39] <Twinkletoes|W> dulak: Are you still there?
[18:39] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[18:40] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night, including a new kernel, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[18:40] <dmsuperman> gnome-do keeps crashing for me. Here is stderr / stdout for the few minutes leading up to the crash: http://pastebin.com/d2ef5eac6 it happens regularly, and without me even using gnome-do
[18:40] <noodlesgc> sharperguy its either iwl3945 or iwl4965. You can check which is loaded with lsmod
[18:40] <yofel> sharperguy: it should be iwlagn afaik
[18:40] <harushimo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/68941/
[18:40] <chuckmoney> LjL & sysdoc I'm using 8.04 on everything right now so I don't know much about issues with Intrepid.  I know an ASUS EEE 901 has almost zero compatability with Intrepid.  Beyond that I haven't tried it on anything else.
[18:40] <Twinkletoes|W> help
[18:40] <xman> hi all, i need to do port forwarding for particular range of ports, can any one tell me how to do that?
[18:40] <Twinkletoes|W> oops
[18:40] <ffej2ffej> Hello, everybody
[18:40] <Twerk^> hardwired: whats the error?
[18:40] <LjL> chuckmoney, actually the kernel that comes with Intrepid should bring several improvements toward eeepc compatibility
[18:41] <Exitialis> Twerk^: my monitor is stuck at 800x640maximum because i cant get drivers for it
[18:41] <Some_ux> Pici: I know I can use the Debian apt-get install thinggy, but that's not what i need. I need to Recompile the code in: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/xl2tpd
[18:41]  * Marsjanin goes eat, then comment all lines in crontab except testing one and will say a reesult, Pe1o.
[18:41] <Guaguasi[work]> howdy, i'm pretty new to emacs and i'm using v<IP_ADDRESS> on the new Ubuntu 8.10 x64. I have a website I'm working on through curlftpfs, using both on 8.04 had no issues, however, since the upgrade, I get "IO error writing <file> Input/output error", where <file> is whatever i'm working on. It still saves my changes, but it doesn't register as such.
[18:41] <pw-toxic> Twerk thx this seems interesting... but installing ubuntu like this is ok?: 30gb ext3 using "/" and 4GB using SWAP ?
[18:41] <gammy> ikonia: Again possibly a silly question - I'm using hardy. How can I get the "proposed" package for it as specified here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ov511/+bug/190450
[18:41] <sharperguy> noodlesgc, yofel, thanks, lsmod shows iwl3945
[18:41] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Rebooting the server now
[18:41] <eCli> Anyone can help me with an issue to shell scripting PM me plz!!!!
[18:42] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: 4gb seems like a lot of swaP
[18:42] <joaopinto> gammy, you need to enable the "proposed" repositories on your software sources
[18:42] <yofel> Hi, has anybody got 'WPA2 & WPA2 Enterprise' woring with TLS in the new Networkmanager 7.0? I can't get the 'connect' button enabled :(
[18:42] <lyrae> Hi. Im trying to make an HD mount at boot. Is this wrong: (fstab) /dev/sdb1       /mnt/Shared      ntfs-3g     auto quiet,auto,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8,umask=0   0 0
[18:42] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: how much ram you have?
[18:42] <erUSUL> eCli: better help in #bash
[18:42] <eCli> thanx!
[18:42] <chuckmoney> LjL: Not for me.  didn't pick up wifi, bluetooth, or graphics.  it even detected the Atom as a single core.  I used the alpha build maybe 6 days before it hit release but it was far from stable.  I went back to 8.04 with the custom EEE 901 kernel and it has been smooth sailing since.
[18:42] <unique> when i try to run this script by ./file1 it tells me file1 no such file or directory.. however when i type in "ls" i see the file.. and it has +x chmod.. whats the problem with this?
[18:42] <Some_ux> The code in http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/xl2tpd contains a faulty flag in the Makefile. (and a missing If statement in one of the scripts) I just don't know what to do with it :(
[18:42] <Cristi> hello! Can i change the format of a hdd without losing data? (probably not) I want to go from ntfs to whatever linux format
[18:42] <pw-toxic> Twerk currently 2GB but probably soon 8GB
[18:43] <Twerk^> lyrae: looks ok to me assuming your boot drive is sdb
[18:43] <pw-toxic> Twerk i got 2 TB hard disk intern and 1TB extern additionally
[18:43] <joaopinto> Cristi, you can't convert from ntfs to ext3, only with a backup&restore
[18:43] <LjL> Some_ux: out of curiosity why do you need to *compile* it rather than just install it?
[18:43] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: yes that partition scheme seems fine then
[18:43] <noodlesgc> unique try typing ./fil and then hit tab
[18:43] <pw-toxic> ok then i just reinstall it and watch the display.. i it still doesnt work i will try the grub thing in the forum
[18:43] <chuckmoney> LjL: I have 2 friends running Intrepid who love it.  I'm not against Intrepid, but I have 2 systems I use a lot.  One is my EEE and the other is this one I spent 3 days getting dual displays working on, so if I use Intrepid, it'll be because Hardy has hit EOL.
[18:43] <unique> noodlesgc: thats how im doing it
[18:43] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: just remember when installing grub that your drives start at 0 instead of 1
[18:44] <sysdoc> Virtualbox appears to want to create a new partition/image and then install XP can anyone confirm this? Or am I reading this wrong?
[18:44] <ffej2ffej> I want to use crontab to run a PHP script.  I just re-installed LAMP and everything works fine, however I don't have the /usr/bin/php5-cgi like I did before.  Where is it now?  Does it even exist?  Can I run a PHP script without telling crontab about the program?
[18:44] <pw-toxic> Twerk what does this mean to me?
[18:44] <Cristi> joaopinto: how do you i change the format ? i format it with the live cd?
[18:44] <LjL> chuckmoney: i understand the feeling, however i have one thing to say - as long as everybody avoids using the standard kernel, the standard kernel will never get the much needed bug reports, and we'll be stuck forever with that custom kernel (with all the problems that having a forked kernel entertains)
[18:44] <Voltaplein> Quick question,: running 8.10 on a desktop with no wireless, yet wpa-supplicant is running.  What is the best way to tell ubuntu that I don't want wireless networking enabled?
[18:44] <gammy> joaopinto: so basically I have to do a complete upgrade?
[18:44] <chuckmoney> sysdoc: it should create a virtual drive file or something of that sort, not a physical HDD partition.
[18:44] <unop> sysdoc, VB creates a virtual partition/filesystem within a file
[18:44] <Some_ux> LjL: The reason I am saying this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xl2tpd/+bug/247783
[18:44] <joaopinto> Cristi, if you do not have data on it, just use the partition editor, and remove/add the partition
[18:44] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night in 8.10, including kernel 2.6.27-7, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[18:45] <lyrae> Twerk: it is. but it doesnt work. If i take that line out fstab, then i see the drive under the 'places' menu. If i leave it in, i dont. (but it is mounted because i looked in /mnt/Shared and files are there)
[18:45] <Twerk^> pw-toxic: if your boot drive for ubuntu is sda1, your grub will need to be configured to (0,0)  same as if your boot drive is sdb2, grub will like (1,1)
[18:45] <noodlesgc> Voltaplein right click on network manager and uncheck the Wireless checkbox
[18:45] <pw-toxic> sdb1 is windows
[18:45] <Some_ux> These are know bugs which were resolved in the Intrepid distro, but I can't upgrade to Intrepid, so i need to modify the Hardy source code for that package.
[18:45] <FFForever> can i disable bluetooth i don't use it and it just drains my battery faster....
[18:45] <Cristi> joaopinto: yes i guess you are right
[18:45] <pw-toxic> Twerk sdb1 is windows
[18:45] <lyrae> pw-toxic: yes
[18:46] <Cristi> joaopinto: thank you
[18:46] <Voltaplein> noodlesgc: I cannot  see such a button
[18:46] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: No luck. I think the problem is that I cannot see any shares in the network shares. I have two already bookmarked and they work, but I can't see anyshares for this computer
[18:46] <LjL> Some_ux: ok so the bug seems fixed in intrepid, why don't you try recompiling the *intrepid* package
[18:46] <Twerk^> pw-toxic:  then the windows section of your grub will need to read (1,0)
[18:46] <LjL> Some_ux: you could also request a backport
[18:46] <joaopinto> Some_ux, you can't install packages from hardy in intrepid
[18:46] <Twerk^> brb burning iso in another room
[18:46] <joaopinto> oh, you are rebuilding, that's fine :P
[18:46] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: I am to the point I will just wipe the main drive and install Ubuntu desktop and use that as my file system
[18:46] <chuckmoney> LjL: If someone wants to patch the standard kernel so the EEE's wifi works out of the box I would gladly run Intrepid and send in bug reports while I wait on the rest to get fixed.  Without working wireless sending bug reports involves saving error logs to flash drives and using another system.  But 800x600 isn't much worse than the default res on the EEE so I'd put up with it if it just had working wireless.
[18:47] <SirBijan> hey all
[18:47] <pw-toxic> Twerk^: do i have to configure this myself to keep windows running?
[18:47] <Some_ux> joaopinto: I need the reverse, install Intrepid package on Hardy
[18:47] <matthias___1986> hi
[18:47] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Is there a difference to setting up Samba on U Server vs. U desktop?
[18:47] <matthias___1986> someone there?
[18:47] <joaopinto> ok
[18:47] <joaopinto> Xpistos, no
[18:47] <SirBijan> I wana run 2 lines of script at boot time, one for putting 1 into the ip_forward file and another an iptable NAT
[18:47] <Some_ux> Or manually patch the source code for the Hardy distro myself
[18:47] <LjL> chuckmoney, err, but the array.org kernel (the one i guess you're using on Hardy) *is* also available on intrepid
[18:47] <SirBijan> where should I write them?
[18:47] <PerSeL> where do i change color depth?
[18:47] <SirBijan> I wrote them in /etc/rc.local
[18:47] <unop> !prevu | Some_ux
[18:47] <SirBijan> but it doesn't seem to work
[18:47] <LjL> chuckmoney: (i still think people should run the standard kernel and report bugs against it, but nonetheless..)
[18:48] <SirBijan> i check the ip_forward file, it's empty
[18:48] <Xpistos> joapinto: My laptop and windows boxes are fine. If I put FreeNAS on the server that is good, but I can get samba working on the U server
[18:48] <erUSUL> SirBijan: use /etc/rc.local
[18:48] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: if that sounds good to you it sounds good to me.  One word of caution though, when you start to setup SAMBA on Ubuntu, stick to the actual samba config file if any windows machines will be accessing it, not the Ubuntu GNOME GUI.  When you have to get SAMBA and the Filesystem to agree on how to set permissions it gets sticky.
[18:48] <Xpistos> joapinto: My laptop and windows boxes are fine. If I put FreeNAS on the server that is good, but I CAN'T get samba working on the U server
[18:48] <SirBijan> erUSUL: I told ya, it doesn't seem to work
[18:48] <PerSeL> anyone here can help me with color depth?
[18:48] <SirBijan> i dunno why
[18:48] <SirBijan> it's already there
[18:48] <SirBijan> before the "exit 0" line
[18:49] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night in 8.10, including kernel 2.6.27-7, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[18:49] <kane77> hi, I have slight problem with compiz.. sometimes the windows' toolbar gets blank (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdn0.png the window with the game and the upper terminal window..) does anyone know what to do to fix it?
[18:49] <matthias___1986> i want to share my internet-connection via firestarter - but i don't get it - my laptop is connected via wlan to a router - this router is connected to the internet - now i want to share the internet via my laptop to my private network but i dont get it
[18:49] <SirBijan> but as I "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward", it's a big 0 in there!
[18:49] <Voltaplein> noodlesgc: I cannot  see such a button
[18:49] <erUSUL> SirBijan: paste the file on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:49] <hardwired> Twerk^: ah sorry, I'm back now. no error, just no glxgears installed. what package is it in?
[18:49] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Thanks for the advice. Luckily the Tutorial I got was to edit the config files so there we are good to go
[18:49] <sysdoc> unop, are you running virtualbox?? And can I use it to run an existing XP install on another partition?
[18:49] <Pe1o> Marsjanin, I just tested it with amarok , I installed it just to test,  this line works perfectly  49 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 && amarok
[18:49] <Voltaplein> noodlesgc: The network manager has a tab for wireless (nothing in mine) but no global yes/no button that I can find
[18:50] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: yes, there is.  Ubuntu Server is a console-only system so the only way to set up SAMBA is via editing the config file.  Ubuntu Desktop has GNOME, a desktop environment, and as such has a GUI to configure SAMBA, though again, when dealing with a network with windows clients, you should use the config file method regardless.
[18:50] <LjL> Some_ux: it's actually pretty straightforward to compile an Intrepid package on Hardy, if dependencies haven't changed [much]. 1) add the relevant *source* repository line to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) do "sudo apt-get update" 3) do "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename" 4) do "sudo apt-get --build source packagename" 5) remove the line from sources.list
[18:50] <linxuz3r> hi
[18:50] <hardwired> Twerk^: output of   dpkg -S `which glxgears`   ?
[18:50] <unop> sysdoc, yes i use VB. No, you cannot use it to run windows that was installed on another physical partition.
[18:50] <linxuz3r> how do i change firefox shortcuts?
[18:50] <matthias___1986> i want to share my internet-connection via firestarter - but i don't get it - my laptop is connected via wlan to a router - this router is connected to the internet - now i want to share the internet via my laptop to my private network but i dont get it
[18:50] <SirBijan> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68944/
[18:50] <SirBijan> it says this file does nothing unless you change the execution bits
[18:50] <unique> when i try to run this script by ./file1 it tells me file1 no such file or directory.. however when i type in "ls" i see the file.. and it has +x chmod.. whats the problem with this? i even tried ./fi + tab
[18:50] <joaopinto> sysdoc, that can be done with vmware, but it's a complex setup
[18:51] <SirBijan> does it mean I have to "chmod +x" it?!
[18:51] <Flashtek> matthias___1986: wireless privacy is probably enabled..
[18:51] <sysdoc> unop, great thanks.. Ripping this POS out!
[18:51] <ConstantineXVI> how does one go about shading windows by double-clicking the titlebar (w/ compiz)?
[18:51] <joaopinto> unique, do you have a 64bits installation ?
[18:51] <erUSUL> SirBijan: seems ok.. has the file executable permisons?
[18:51] <Slart> unique: case sensitivity?
[18:51] <Slart> unique: can you run "file file1" ?
[18:51] <unique> joaopinto: how can i find out if i have 64bit ? :)
[18:51] <LetterRip> any idea why  running 'sensors' would only show a subset of data?
[18:51] <SirBijan> erUSUL: yes, it's executable as I see
[18:51] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: also, keep in mind that if you're using a windows login domain and/or active directory then you will have to deal with configuring that.  I spent 8 months at a job I had 2 years ago trying to figure out how to make SAMBA work with AD to no avail.
[18:51] <sysdoc> joaopinto, Yea, I have heard rumors that it can, and the setup isn't that hard but the install appears to be the problem
[18:51] <sysdoc> lol
[18:51] <LetterRip> i only get the CPU temps
[18:52] <joaopinto> unique, try the "file" command from start
[18:52] <geirha> unique: file /bin/bash
[18:52] <LjL> unique: see if "cat /proc/cpuinfo" has "lm" in the "flags"
[18:52] <ConstantineXVI> unique, what processor d you have?
[18:52] <SirBijan> erUSUL: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 423 2008-11-07 18:42 /etc/rc.local
[18:52] <OsamaK> Where is Ubuntu's font folder where I can copy and paste fonts?
[18:52] <joaopinto> sysdoc, vmware is quite easy to install at least the 2.x version :P
[18:52] <sken> i get an error im mplayer  avc nal size 0 what's that?
[18:52] <Pici> !fonts | OsamaK
[18:52] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: for a workgroup-based network, SAMBA is good though.  Plus unlike an XP server you don't have a user limit.
[18:52] <erUSUL> SirBijan: i see a _ in this line echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward_
[18:52] <Voltaplein> Quick question,: running 8.10 on a desktop with no wireless, yet wpa-supplicant is running.  What is the best way to tell ubuntu that I don't want wireless networking enabled?
[18:52] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Two times as lucky. No domain and not AD simple file sharing really
[18:52] <linxuz3r> please how do i change firefox keyboard shortcuts?
[18:52] <OsamaK> thnaks
[18:52] <erUSUL> SirBijan: at the end...
[18:52] <LjL> unique: wait sorry that's for determining whether you have a 64-bit *processor* though, not whether you have a 64-bit Ubuntu
[18:52] <unop> sysdoc, i don't think there is any virtualisation software that can do that
[18:53] <erUSUL> SirBijan: it is thwere or is a typo when pasting??
[18:53] <Antioch> Hi guys, I have a question. I have a thinkpad laptop, which like many other laptops now-a-days comes with a recovery partition. I'd like to dual-boot Ubuntu and XP on my machine while leaving the recovery partition intact and still bootable. Last time I tried this I could dual-boot fine, but I somehow messed it up so that I could no longer boot into the recovery partition...
[18:53] <Zoem> Hi, after upgrading packages last night in 8.10, including kernel 2.6.27-7, I no longer have any dns, and nm-connection-editor is not working. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[18:53] <joaopinto> Voltaplein, try: dpkg -S wpa-supplicant
[18:53] <joaopinto> and remove the package containing it
[18:53] <hardwired> can someone with nvidia installed please tell me the output of  dpkg -S `which glxgears`
[18:53] <Some_ux> I don't really need the Intrepid version, I know precisely which files to modify in the sourcecode of the Hardy version (it says in the bug post, to simply add a flag to the Makefile) Is Prevu good for that ?
[18:53] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: then I don't forsee any issues.  It should be clear sailing for you.  Unless you're going to use something else on the server in GNOME, install Ubuntu Server to cut down on overhead.
[18:53] <SirBijan> erUSUL: no, it's there!
[18:53] <unique> LjL yea i have lm in flags
[18:53] <geirha> unique: if "file /bin/bash" says bash is 64-bit, then you have 64-bit install
[18:53] <Runpain2_> !pidgen
[18:53] <linxuz3r> hello how do i change firefox shortcuts?????????????????????????????
[18:53] <SirBijan> you are right man!
[18:53] <SirBijan> you are right!
[18:53] <SirBijan> thanks! my stupid mistake
[18:53] <sken> i get an error in mplayer avc nal size 0 what's that?
[18:53] <FloodBot3> SirBijan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:53] <sken> ?
[18:53] <javajeff> Can anyone tell me if Unison can sync from ext3 to ntfs?
[18:53] <unique> irc.freenode.org
[18:53] <unique> oops
[18:53] <sysdoc> joaopinto, Ver2 I installed from the rpm on the site, and when I try to run the config I get::/usr/bin$ sudo vmware-config.pl results in: sh: /etc/init.d/vmware: not found
[18:53] <sken> does anybody has any clue>
[18:54] <sken> ?
[18:54] <Voltaplein> joaopinto: did that, but NetworkManager depends on wpasupplicant.  I just want to tell it to forget about wireless for my machine and not load the daemon
[18:54] <LjL> Some_ux: i've never used prevu, but you can also do what i explained for the hardy version (except drop the "--build", because you'll need to edit stuff before building)
[18:54] <Runpain2_> !gaim
[18:54] <ffej2ffej> I want to use crontab to run a PHP script.  I just re-installed LAMP and everything works fine, however I don't have the /usr/bin/php5-cgi like I did before.  Where is it now?  Does it even exist?  Can I run a PHP script without telling crontab about the program?
[18:54] <unop> javajeff, unison shouldn't have to bother with details of the filesystem, it just bothers about the files themselves
[18:54] <awakebyjava> okay, can someone help me with something?
[18:54] <unique> geirha:  yea it shows up as 64bit.. is there any way for me to reinstall it to 32bit ?
[18:54] <unique> or upgrade it or something
[18:54] <lyhana8> My wacom tablet stuck away the border and this to be wrong calibrate, do you know how to solve it ?
[18:54] <unique> or is there a way for me to run this 32bit application?
[18:54] <chuckmoney> Antioch: most likely whatever you tried before overwrote a special IBM boot loader.  Unfortunately, unless you can edit the menu for that IBM bootloader, you can't dual boot and keep your recovery partition.
[18:55] <javajeff> unop:  I am getting a permission error.  Can Ubuntu 8.1 write to ntfs?
[18:55] <lyhana8> It's a Grapire2 (Bus 003 Device 002: ID 056a:0011 Wacom Co., Ltd Graphire 2)
[18:55] <Slart> unique: what application is it?
[18:55] <Antioch> chuckmoney alright. Ill just boot it from GRUB then :)
[18:55] <unique> its some private script that  i need
[18:55] <Slart> unique: you can usually run 32 bit apps on a 64 bti system.. unless it needs a lot of 32 bit libraries
[18:55] <unop> javajeff, yes, if the volume was mounted with the fuse/ntfs-3g driver - no, if it was mounted with the ntfs driver
[18:55] <unop> ffej2ffej, install the php5-cgi package.
[18:55] <Slart> unique: what did "file file1" return?
[18:56] <sysdoc> unop, there is a tutorial for it that seems to work well, if my install would work, lol
[18:56] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: There are currently two issues in play that I can see. 1) For some reason when I try to update my software sites, the Ubuntu CD keeps erring out and 2) do i have to do anything with smbd I am new to the server in ubuntu and I am only dealing with smb.conf
[18:56] <chuckmoney> Antioch: you will either have to install ubuntu with no boot loader and add Ubuntu to the IBM bootloader, or yeah, install Ubuntu with GRUB and hopefully add a GRUB entry for your recovery partition.  Most likely the recovery partition is a standard DOS partition.
[18:56] <PerSeL> i need a help to change color depth anyone can help me with that?
[18:56] <javajeff> unop.  I just have it mounted with fstab.
[18:56] <awakebyjava> i need to find the device file for my xubuntu install, but i have no idea which one it uses
[18:56] <unop> javajeff, ok, but what driver did you specify?
[18:56] <javajeff> I am able to write to the partition by drag and drop.
[18:57] <unique> Slart: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[18:57] <awakebyjava> i should have said my cdrom
[18:57] <Antioch> chuckmoney Yea, that was my backup plan. I somehow wanted to find a way to retain the functionality of the Thinkvantage button, which when pressed during bootup takes you to the recovery partition.
[18:57] <javajeff> Unop.  Do not know what driver.  just a standard 8.10 install
[18:57] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: for 2) no, smbd is a binary so you can't really edit it anyway, you'd only be messing with smb.conf
[18:57] <SirBijan> I run "iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface ppp0 -j MASQUERADE" and it gives me no error
[18:57] <LjL> PerSeL: the color depth of what, X?
[18:57] <awakebyjava> i found info on it, but i have no idea which device file to use
[18:57] <SirBijan> but then when I run "iptables -L", I can't see my rule defined in there
[18:57] <unop> javajeff, if you are able to copy files over, unison should be able to.  what exactly are the error messages you are gettings?
[18:57] <PerSeL> LjL: I want to set it to 32
[18:57] <SirBijan> but I'm sure it's working, coz it does masquerade
[18:57] <unop> getting*
[18:57] <chuckmoney> Antioch: you probably can't.
[18:57] <javajeff> I was looking for a sync tool to keep data similiar between windows and linux
[18:57] <LjL> PerSeL: it's usually set to 24 (which really is 32) by default
[18:58] <Antioch> chuckmoney Alright, backup plan it is then. Thanks :D
[18:58] <joaopinto> javajeff, rsync :)
[18:58] <PerSeL> LjL: and how can i be sure it's 24?
[18:58] <Some_ux> LjL: I have another problem, the machine I am using is not connected to the web (in part, due to the fact that the xl2tp is faulty) So Can i still do the steps you suggested ?
[18:58] <Slart> unique: well.. it's an executable alright.. so it's not a script.. do you get some kind or error when you try to run it?
[18:58] <javajeff> rsync was my second choice, but I read people switching to Unison
[18:58] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: as for 1) you should probably just redownload the ISO.  If you don't have a blank CD you could always boot it from a flash drive (a 1GB, obviously)
[18:58] <SirBijan> erUSUL: any idea on the case?
[18:58] <Slart> unique: you could try installing those 32 bit libraries.. ia32 something
[18:58] <joaopinto> unique, ia32-libs
[18:58] <LjL> PerSeL: xdpyinfo | grep "depth of root"
[18:58] <Slart> !info ia32-libs | unique
[18:59] <javajeff> error:  jeff_01.20081104124114.xac
[18:59] <javajeff> Failed to set permissions of file /mnt/sda2/Documents/gnucash/jeff_01.20081104124114.xac to ??-?--?--: the permissions was set to ??x?wx?wx instead. The filesystem probably does not support all permission bits. You should probably set the "perms" option to 0o0 (or to 0 if you don't need to synchronize permissions).
[18:59] <timewriter> hi
[18:59] <unique> ok thank you guys
[18:59] <joaopinto> it does exist on amd64 :P
[18:59] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: Nah, I am using hardy and have the disk from ubuntu. Well I guess I will just reinstall server and then start again. In MS Server I can do this blindfolded, but I want to rid myself of them so I keep chanting my mantra Linux. Linux, Linux ...
[18:59] <jordo2323> is there a way to get active x controls to work in firefox in Ubuntu (ibex)?
[18:59] <ConstantineXVI> anyone have luck with a MS Lifecam VX-3000 in 8.10?
[18:59] <timewriter> is there any good program to watch tv using a tv-tuner , on ubuntu ?
[18:59] <LjL> Some_ux: no you cannot, not on that machine
[18:59] <LjL> !tv | timewriter
[18:59] <chuckmoney> Antioch: yanno you COULD most likely map a key to just reboot the system and pick the recovery partition when it reboots.  Or just use ctrl-alt-del in Ubuntu.  But I think maybe the IBM system jumps you back a few minutes or something so you really can't duplicate that functionality.
[18:59] <timewriter> thank you
[19:00] <javajeff> my MS Lifecam VX3000 does not work with 8.10
[19:00] <timewriter> so which one ill use ?
[19:00] <unop> javajeff, are the files being copied tho?   currently, there is no way you can translate unix permissions for ntfs - in otherwords, ntfs-3g does not have that capability (yet)
[19:00] <unique> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs.. it tells me that it cannot find it
[19:00] <gammy> joaopinto: ..was my presumption correct? :o Where might I find more information about doing so?
[19:00] <raar> Hi! I just turned on my pc after moving houses (it was off for months) and the time was in front by one week or so. So I changed the system time, but this causes the problem that I can't use sudo. It gives me the following error: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 19:50:41 2008
[19:00] <LjL> Some_ux: you can move stuff manually to that machine, i guess, but it'll be quite cumbersome to do, because you'll also have to get the various build dependencies installed
[19:00] <Antioch> chuckmoney I'll look into it. I found a good article on a wiki related to the subject.
[19:00] <javajeff> the status is a red X and says failed.  I am using the gui
[19:00] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: good luck man.  If you're going to do this on another system try to stick in the chat and we'll walk you through as much as we can.
[19:01] <PerSeL> LjL: it's tell me 24 planes
[19:01] <joaopinto> gammy, i am not following you, sorry
[19:01] <Slart> jordo2323: I don't think so
[19:01] <unop> javajeff, what GUI?
[19:01] <LjL> PerSeL: so you're all set
[19:01] <jgonick> timewriter: I like tvtime and  also mplayer
[19:01] <javajeff> the graphical interface for Unison
[19:01] <timewriter> im installing mythtv
[19:01] <ffej2ffej> I want to use crontab to run a PHP script.  I just re-installed LAMP and everything works fine, however I don't have the /usr/bin/php5-cgi like I did before.  Where is it now?  Does it even exist?  Can I run a PHP script without telling crontab about the program?
[19:01] <PerSeL> LjL: but anyway i think my screen can work better with 32
[19:01] <awakebyjava> okay, install of ubuntu from cdrom will not detect a cdrom driver
[19:01] <LjL> jgonick: mplayer drives what, DVB cards? analog?
[19:01] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: I will jump back in a few hours. The ball and chain gave me a honey do list, so time to get cracking
[19:01] <PerSeL> LjL: at least in windows xp it looks better with 32
[19:01] <LjL> PerSeL, and you think wrong
[19:01] <unop> javajeff, ok, but have you verified that the files are being copied using nautilus (or whatever your file browser is) ?
[19:01] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: thanks again
[19:02] <awakebyjava> i found the info on the drive though using dmesg | -i cd-rom
[19:02] <Xpistos> FREEDOM!
[19:02] <unop> ffej2ffej, install the php5-cgi package. (for the second time)
[19:02] <chuckmoney> Xpistos: no problem.  glad I could help.  (and glad I'm just 21 and single too.)
[19:02] <LjL> PerSeL: 24 bits means 8 bits per pixel, which in turn means 256 shades of green, red, and blue
[19:02] <gammy> joaopinto: Does enabling the "proposed" repo imply that I will have to upgrade more than ov511-dev ?
[19:02] <awakebyjava> so not i have that info, but what do i do with it?
[19:02] <PerSeL> LjL: is it realy that hard to change depth color that you're not tell me it?
[19:02] <LjL> PerSeL: 32 bit means the same, except there's 8 more bit for something called "alpha channel", which is basically transparency
[19:02] <javajeff> GTK interface.  The files are already there, I am hoping the program will update and replace them
[19:02] <ffej2ffej> Thanks, unop.  I didn't see it before.
[19:02] <LjL> PerSeL: i've ALREADY told you that what Ubuntu's X calls "24 bit" really is 32 bit
[19:02] <Xpistos> chuckmoney: sometimes I wish I was too
[19:02] <Slart> jordo2323: although there are some hits on google for using wine to run some kind of mozilla active x thingy..
[19:02] <LjL> PerSeL: perhaps you didn't pay very much attention
[19:03] <javajeff> maybe I should just try rsync
[19:03] <PerSeL> LjL: ok thank you
[19:03] <LjL> PerSeL: i can tell you how to change your color depth, but if you set it to 32, it will just give you an error. that's because the alpha channel is enabled when you set 24 bit, and 32 is just short for "24 plus alpha channel"
[19:03] <unop> javajeff, jeez.  copy some other files or see if these files have actually been updated -- the errors you are getting are just warnings.
[19:03] <chuckmoney> javajeff: not going to try to jump in the middle of someone else helping you, but when using Unison-gtk, if you just use "merge" on the topmost level of what you're trying to sync and then click "run" it will usually do everything else for you.
[19:03] <unique> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:03] <Pici> LjL: I thought it was 8 bits of buffer.
[19:03] <unique> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:04] <geirha> raar: not sure which files need to get the timestamp set to fix that, but I believe a reboot will fix it
[19:04] <LjL> Pici: buffer?
[19:04] <Pici> LjL: I don't know, I'm tired.
[19:04] <PerSeL> LjL: ok i got the point thank you again
[19:04] <unique> when i try to install ia32-libs.. i get that error
[19:04] <unop> chuckmoney, the problem he has is unison trying to set permissions for the files copied to an NTFS volume.
[19:04] <PerSeL> LjL: so basicly i'm @ 32 like in windows
[19:04] <erUSUL> Pici: LjL is right afaik the extra 8 bits is alpha channel
[19:04] <jgonick> LjL: I use mplayer for an old win-TV card (analog  -- I suppose)
[19:04] <Slart> unique: do you have synaptic running in the background?
[19:04] <raar> geirha: ah ok, I'll give that a shot - thanks!
[19:04] <erUSUL> PerSeL: yep
[19:04] <Pici> erUSUL: I stand (sit) corrected then.
[19:04] <topinio> bonsoir :)
[19:04] <Some_ux> LjL: Am I correct in assuming all i need to compile that package is libc6 and ppp ?  (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/xl2tpd)
[19:04] <chuckmoney> unique: check and be sure ubuntu isn't checking for updates.  look at the icons in the system tray.  if it's looking for updates the icon will be gray.  if it is, that's what's using dpkg.
[19:04] <LjL> Pici: there's probably several ways to use those spare 8 bits, most commonly it's called the alpha channel, but i can't exclude X also uses it for other stuff
[19:05] <erUSUL> Pici: :)
[19:05] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I want to send files from one direction to the other.  Are you saying Merge will automatically keep the newest between the two directions?  The instructions are hard to search.
[19:05] <OsamaK> Is there a font browser for Ubuntu?
[19:05] <unique> dpkg -S libGL.so.1.2 gives me: libgl1-mesa-glx: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[19:05] <chuckmoney> unop and javajeff: there isn't an option for that in unison-gtk but the console command has an option to set permissions on either end.  don't think it supports NTFS though.
[19:05] <n8tuser> unique-> if you cat /var/lib/dpkg/lock   and get a number it is locked
[19:05] <Slart> OsamaK: I think there is one or two available in synaptic
[19:05] <azendal> whats the app for linux that takes care of backups
[19:05] <LjL> Some_ux: well, you also need "build-essential" (which every package needs to compile, since it includes, among other things... the compiler). but still, no, those two dependencies listed are just the *runtime* dependencies, not the *build* dependencies
[19:05] <Slart> !backup | azendal
[19:06] <chuckmoney> javajeff: yes, merge will pick the newest version on whichever end it's on and put that newest one on both ends.
[19:06] <shawng_work> chuckmoney i dont seee any refrence in .bashrc  that would mean that
[19:06] <unique> n8tuser: i get nothing there..
[19:06] <unop> chuckmoney, i have no idea about unison, all i know is that unix permission aren't translated for NTFS by the current ntfs-3g driver.
[19:06] <azendal> its something like time machine for the mac
[19:06] <puff> azendal: Dunno about backups per se, but I just went through a multiple disk failure and a friend highly recommended setting up a unison setup so my personal files are always automatically backed up.
[19:06] <n8tuser> unique-> it should be okay then
[19:07] <chuckmoney> shawng_work: no clue then.  restate your issue and maybe someone else can help you
[19:07] <LjL> Some_ux: i don't know how to list the build dependencies, i just know that "apt-get build-dep" will install them
[19:07] <E3b> hello I need some help please, on Workspace Switcher I have only 2 desktop and I cant add more, how can I fix it?
[19:07] <ktemkin> hello
[19:07] <unique> n8tuser: well i cant apt-get anything..
[19:07] <ktemkin> I have a question about the ubuntu development/package process
[19:07] <unique> i will try to reboot
[19:08] <Pici> Some_ux: apt-cache showsrc packagename   will show the build-deps
[19:08] <ktemkin> there was a problem with the evdev driver that resulted in volume keys sticking on a lot of laptops
[19:08] <unique> oops
[19:08] <javajeff> chuckmonkey:  Merge did not do anything
[19:08] <unique> now it tells me: E: Couldn't find package ia32-libs
[19:08] <Some_ux> Pici: Thanks !
[19:08] <ktemkin> I wrote a patch for the evdev driver, fixing the problem
[19:08] <KaiForce> i've disabled Nautilus as my desktop file manager - what alternatives are there?
[19:08] <ktemkin> what do I do now? (i.e. testing, etc)
[19:08] <chuckmoney> javajeff: not sure if I was clear.  If File1 on SystemA is newer than File1 on SystemB, and File2 on SystemB is newer than File2 on SystemA, Merge mode will put File1 from SystemA and File2 from SystemB on both systems so both have the newest of each file.  Does that explain it?
[19:08] <LjL> KaiForce: if you go to #ubuntu-bots and ask to "list every file manager", it will give you a few
[19:08] <chiliblue> anyone having issues with playing avi files?
[19:08] <Pici> ktemkin: Post the patch as an attachment to the bug.
[19:09] <KaiForce> LjL thanks
[19:09] <flakrat> In Intrepid, if I manually set eth0 IP address it works, but after rebooting it resets back to DHCP, is this a known issue or just something screwy with my laptop?
[19:09] <armyofda12mnkeys> is there anyway root can be locked out of a file. like if you did sudo chmod 000 file.txt. i assume yes since root has no access then, but then how would he get perms back? i didnt want to test with my system yet :)
[19:09] <Some_ux> Pici: Do i need to install the package to run that command ?
[19:09] <OsamaK> Slart: can you name one?
[19:09] <pw-toxic> Slart: it is still using windows   and there is no boot menu
[19:09] <Pici> Some_ux: No.
[19:09] <n8tuser> flakrat-> in the interfaces file set it as static
[19:09] <armyofda12mnkeys> just chmodding them back will give root access?
[19:10] <flakrat> n8tuser, so bypass the Network Manager gui?
[19:10] <gla> #CAcert
[19:10] <n8tuser> flakrat-> man interfaces
[19:10] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: no.  You might need to install gstreamer codecs, most likely xvid or divx, or even ffmpeg.  If that doesn't make them playable, it's usually an issue with graphics or sound drivers, i.e. not specific to your avi.
[19:10] <ktemkin> ok, thank you
[19:10] <erUSUL> flakrat: ifconfig changes do not survive reboots. System>Preferences>Network Settings?
[19:10] <n8tuser> flakrat-> if you have static ip assigned, you dont need nm gui to set things
[19:10] <chiliblue> I have them installed, must be video then I guess
[19:10] <E3b> hello I need some help please, on Workspace Switcher I have only 2 desktop and I cant add more, how can I fix it?
[19:10] <unique> why is apt-get telling me now: E: Couldn't find package ia32-libs
[19:11] <sysdoc> joaopinto, u still around?
[19:11] <Some_ux> It's strange, working on a computer without web access in that place, makes me feel like a blind man.
[19:11] <chiliblue> it goes to play them then crashes the app..doesn't matter which app I try
[19:11] <tomvolek> Hi all,  I just installed Ubuntu 8.1 on mysony viao.  I get this error message at boot time about cman and clusters, and it keeps repeating for 30 or so times, and five minute later fianlly boots.  I looked at dmesg and i dont see this message there . any idea what this is and how i can turn it off ?
[19:11] <javajeff> chuckmonkey:  I understand how it works.  I just cannot get it to work.  I am able to manually copy the files from ext3 to ntfs, but I get errors trying to do it with Unison
[19:11] <chuckmoney> E3b: just right-click the workspace switched and select Preferences, then increase the number of columns or rows.
[19:12] <E3b> chuckmoney, I dont have Preferences there...
[19:12] <noltha> hi all! I have a little problem, I want to install 8.04 on my stylistic st4110 tablet, I tried booting from the live CD in standard and safe video mode, but when the X system starts I get white columns on the screen wich gradually has more intensity, any idea with this? thx in advance
[19:12] <flakrat> n8tuser, except for the wifi card, this is a docked laptop, so static on eth0 and dhcp on wlan0. I'll hard code it via interfaces, thanks :-)
[19:12] <brianw83> I'm trying to connect something to my machine by a serial port.  Is there a way to find out where it is connected using dmesg or something like that>
[19:12] <chuckmoney> E3b: Never heard of that.  Do you get preferences when you right click any other panel applets?
[19:12] <pw-toxic> can anyone help me to get ubuntu starting?
[19:13] <E3b> chuckmoney, yes..
[19:13] <pw-toxic> i have installed ubuntu but windows is booting instead of ubuntu
[19:13] <danilebeau> Hello ubuntu world!! iz got a problemo. i can't view youtube videos but i do hear the sound. whyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[19:13] <dangsos> okie dokie, so I'm trying to install java and I downloaded it to the site....I sudo chmod a+x <filename>.bin and now I have another <filename>.bin that the instructions tell me to ./<filename>.bin but that doesn't work
[19:13] <javajeff> chuckmonkey:  I think the problem is that Unison is trying to set permissions.  It does not know that the one direction is ntfs.  How do I tell it to ignore permissions?
[19:13] <erUSUL> !java | dangsos
[19:13] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: That's nice You installed Amarok just for that test, but there was no reeason; NO app works, even gedit. I commented all the lines but the teesting one (last). Gedit didn't started. Maybe that's some with 'export'? Is that an application?
[19:13] <chuckmoney> E3b: sounds like maybe you should just remove and reinstall the gnome-panel-applets package then.  the issue sounds like a bad copy of the applet.
[19:13] <dangsos> !java
[19:13] <E3b> chuckmoney, ok.. I remove it from the pannel and add it again and now I have
[19:13] <E3b> chuckmoney, thanks!
[19:14] <Slart> !info gnome-specimen | OsamaK
[19:14] <n8tuser> brianw83-> you can try wvdial  to see if it interacts with your serial port
[19:14] <danilebeau>  Hello ubuntu world!! iz got a problemo. i can't view youtube videos but i do hear the sound. whyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[19:14] <Slart> pw-toxic: hmm.. how did you install ubuntu? using the normal install cd?
[19:14] <Some_ux> I forgot to mention, I have another Ubuntu machine with an almost identical setup which does have web access, can that help me ?
[19:15] <pw-toxic> Slart: i burned cd 8.10 cd i386
[19:15] <pw-toxic> startet ubuntu live
[19:15] <pw-toxic> clicked onto the install icon
[19:15] <pw-toxic> i did everything normal except using the hard drive manually
[19:15] <pw-toxic> selection the hard drive manually..
[19:15] <chuckmoney> javajeff: does it fail trying to copy any files at all or just on certain directories?  Unison doesn't understand even the most vague concept of NTFS permissions, and it runs with whatever permissions the windows user account it's running as has on windows.  Any problem with NTFS permissions in unison is due to running it as a non-admin user in windows.  Try running Unison as the local Administrator account on the windows en
[19:15] <chuckmoney> d and see if it works.
[19:16] <chuckmoney> javajeff: and it's money, not monkey.  I don't mind but if you type chuckmonkey it doesn't highlight the message and I barely notice it.
[19:16] <pw-toxic> can i check that ubuntu was installed correctly when windows is bootet ?
[19:16] <chiliblue> does nautilus still have issues with smb shares?
[19:16] <Slart> pw-toxic: well.. then I have no idea why it isn't working.. sorry.. sounds like you did it all..
[19:16] <helpy> my mic is muted in audio controls automatically in ubuntu. i have to unmute it all the time
[19:16] <helpy> can someone help ?
[19:17] <Slart> pw-toxic: I don't really know.. windows isn't my thing =)
[19:17] <fallore> Is there a way to make the "Not connected? Printer 'printer' may not be connected" popup go away? It just won't stop...
[19:17] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  Very sorry.  I did not notice because you are yellow on white with XChat coloring
[19:17] <pw-toxic> Slart: damnit i really want to see compiz with nvidia and dual view ;)
[19:17] <danilebeau>  Hello ubuntu world!! iz got a problemo. i can't view youtube videos but i do hear the sound. whyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[19:17] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: not usually but I'm not sure.  most problems nautilus has had with SMB shares are because the default workgroup in smb.conf is "mshome" while XP Professional defaults to "workgroup" so nautilus doesn't see them.
[19:18] <geirha> pw-toxic: It just boots windows, with no option to boot ubuntu?
[19:18] <pw-toxic> no
[19:18] <jgonick> pw-toxic: did it install GRUB
[19:18] <Some_ux> After I type  apt-cache showsrc xl2tpd  I get:
[19:18] <Some_ux> ...
[19:18] <Some_ux> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), dpatch
[19:18] <Sajuta> danilebeau: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 Look there, it should help.
[19:18] <pw-toxic> jgonick: how do i know it has installed grub
[19:18] <javajeff> Chuckmoney:  I am trying to run unison in Linux and copy files that i work on like gnucash to Windows part.
[19:19] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: personally I have to use a wireless router in reverse to connect to my other systems which puts my desktop in a seperate subnet, hence I have to connect samba by IP address, but windows would have the same problem, so it's not an issue with ubuntu.
[19:19] <gavagai> Ok I am partitioning my drive for dual boot with Windows.  Does it matter what order I do the partitions?  I was going to do:  Ubuntu system, Windows system, linux swap, /home.  DOes it matter?
[19:19] <Some_ux> So I assume i need build-essential, debhelper, dpatch ?
[19:19] <ConstantineXVI> gavagai, the order doesn't matter
[19:20] <chiliblue> I'll have a look in smb.conf
[19:20] <danilebeau> many thanks sajuta!
[19:20] <chuckmoney> javajeff: I understand what your problem is, but here's what I'm saying.  the issue is not unison because unison doesn't understand the concept of filesystem permissions.  it just checks timestamps and copies files around, that's it.
[19:20] <geirha> gavagai: it's best to have the windows parittion as the first partition, but your set up should work too as long as windows is on a primary partition
[19:20] <pw-toxic> jgonick: what can i do to install grub?
[19:20] <ConstantineXVI> gavagai, though i've always installed windows, left the ubuntu space blank, then installed ubuntu in the remainder
[19:20] <jgonick> pw-toxic: Its been awhile since I installed but I thought it walked you through setting up the bootloader Grub.  You can always boot with the live cd and see if it is installed.
[19:20] <gavagai> geirha, ok thanks.  i will just put windows first then.
[19:20] <chuckmoney> javajeff: which means any permissions error is seperate from unison.  if you're copying to a local NTFS drive the drive is probably mounted read only, and that's your problem
[19:21] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  if I use cp -r will that work sending all files one direction?
[19:21] <pw-toxic> jgonick: how?
[19:21] <gavagai> ConstantineXVI, ok you mean use the windows installer to create the first partition, leave the rest blank, and then let ubuntu handle the rest?
[19:21] <ConstantineXVI> gavagai, right, that's how I always do it
[19:21] <chuckmoney> javajeff: you can try it, but if the problem is with the NTFS partition being mounted read only, that will fail too
[19:21] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  If the drive was mounted read only, then I should not be able to manually copy to it.
[19:21] <gavagai> ok maybe i'll do that.  i was going to create them all first with gparted
[19:21] <noltha> any idea of why when X starts I only see white columns progressively more intense in a LCD screen? (8.04)
[19:21] <ArShAm> hi all
[19:22] <eventi> any trick to getting bind9 installed on ubuntu 8.10?
[19:22] <chuckmoney> javajeff: indeed, so can you manually copy it or not?
[19:22] <eventi> no named.conf created
[19:22] <Some_ux> OK, following the assumption that i need build-essential, debhelper, dpatch  how do i get those packages to the machine without web access ?
[19:22] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: doesn't look like smb.conf is the culprit it has workgroup as the defaut
[19:22] <ConstantineXVI> noltha, you might have a short in your monitor's cord.  sounds like a problem one of my clients had the other day
[19:22] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I can copy files using Gnome cut and paste.
[19:22] <danilebeau> hey are there any commercial games made specifically for linux?
[19:23] <chiliblue> they sold q3a for linux...thats was a while back
[19:23] <ConstantineXVI> danilebeau, all of id's stuff (doom, quake, rage) usually gets a linux binary close to day zero
[19:23] <jgonick> pw-toxic: Boot from the disc you made and then you should be able to see all your drives and partitions.  You could check to see if Ubuntu was installed.
[19:23] <chiliblue> although it was more expensive than the windows version
[19:23] <zendo> Hi everyone. One question please. I have dual boot system: linux and win xp. GRUB is in charge of booting each of os's. I would like to reinstall win xp, but I know that nt loader will override grub. What is the easiest way to put grub back on, for dual booting linux and windows, after I reinstall Windows xp?
[19:23] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: no clue then.  try mapping samba using the "connect to server" and using the server's IP address instead of its hostname
[19:23] <pw-toxic> jgonick: ok ill try this
[19:23] <noltha> Codedrunk_Work you mean a physical problem on the connector or similar?
[19:23] <poopuser> roblem with monitor settings - i am running my nec 22wv at max res 1680 x 1050 and the problem is that ubuntu dosn't alow me to change refresh rate > 51 hz.anyone knews why?
[19:23] <ConstantineXVI> danilebeau, from id itself, that is
[19:23] <flakrat> so if I'm setting the ip in /etc/network/interfaces, how do I specify the DNS servers? If I add them to /etc/resolv.conf, NM will overwrite them
[19:24] <chiliblue> tried that and nautilus does the same, I have a workaround using pyNeighorhood it works but isn't very elegant
[19:24] <chuckmoney> javajeff: not sure then...if you run a "mount" command in console to list what's currently mounted, what the the options for your NTFS drive?
[19:24] <noltha> sorry ConstantineXVI you mean a physical problem on the connector or similar?
[19:24] <ConstantineXVI> noltha, exactly
[19:25] <noltha> ConstantineXVI wow, but it works nice under windows O_o good resolution, screen rotation..
[19:26] <Marsjanin> Pe1o: I'm desperated. I try out now: 28 * * * * gedit
[19:26] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I am able to use the cp command too.  Mount:  /dev/sda2 on /mnt/sda2 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[19:26] <javajeff> /dev/sda2 on /mnt/sda2 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[19:27] <javajeff> sorry group for the double paste.  lag.
[19:27] <zendo> anyone?
[19:28] <Some_ux> I assume dpatch is some sort of patching utility ? How do i use it ?
[19:28] <zendo> Hi everyone. One question please. I have dual boot system: linux and win xp. GRUB is in charge of booting each of os's. I would like to reinstall win xp, but I know that nt loader will override grub. What is the easiest way to put grub back on, for dual booting linux and windows, after I reinstall Windows xp?
[19:28] <hubar> Marsjanin: try /usr/bin/gedit instead of just gedit itself.
[19:28] <zendo> if it's too much to explain, please direct me to some web page
[19:28] <chuckmoney> javajeff: you might consider mounting it with a uid= or gid= being your user and group IDs (most likely the default for the first account on ubuntu, 1000)
[19:29] <zendo> my main concern is if I boot from CD, linux from my hard, I cannot mount devices so I can reinstall grub at mbr
[19:29] <Marsjanin> hubar: but it works for non-X-window apps, like wget.
[19:29] <unique> why is my apt-get returning Couldn't find package?
[19:29] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I am going to try the other program.  rsync.  I googled the web, and others have this problem.
[19:29] <unique> for whichever package i search for
[19:29] <jgonick> zendo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[19:29] <javajeff> thanks for your help.
[19:30] <chuckmoney> javajeff: if that doesn't work...I don't know.  but if you can copy files that's probably not it anyway.  unison runs in userspace, so it should be subject to the exact same permissions for a local copy as cp or mv
[19:30] <zendo> jgonick: thanks man
[19:30] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: you were right about the avi issue, was the driver...having to use a non open driver now..but it does play
[19:30] <pw-toxic> jgonick: no i have bootet live ubuntu and there is a 30,0 GB Medium with the following folders: bin boot dev etc home ...
[19:31] <pw-toxic> jgonick: looks like this is the one i just have installed
[19:31] <equiv> I have a problem emptying my trash, some folders are still there
[19:31] <pw-toxic> jgonick: but i cant boot it...
[19:31] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  that is why I am confused.  I think the program should just worry about the files.
[19:32] <blumm> hello
[19:32] <pw-toxic> jgonick: maybe these information could help you: i have 3 hard drives:  2*500GB @ raid1 with 4 partitions: 1) window xp 30gb   2) ubuntu 30gb and 30GB unpartitioned (for vista later) and rest files                and 1* 1tb files
[19:32] <blumm> how can i define the terminal profile for a specific app like irssi ??
[19:32] <Zoem> Hi, I am on 8.10, and upgraded to kernel version 2.6.27-7 last night. Now I do not have any dns, and the network manager connection editor cannot change settings
[19:32] <ror_newb> i'm trying to get myself to stop using the mice; the main problem is that the stupid touchpad is too close to ignore; is there a way to pragmatically tell X to ignore / unignore the touchpad?
[19:32] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: glad I could help
[19:32] <chiliblue> flickers though
[19:33] <Baversjo> How can I get motherboard model?
[19:33] <jgonick> pw-toxic:  in the boot folder there should be a grub folder
[19:33] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: you can help a little more, whats a nice open supported pci-e card for linux these days. NO idea why I got a ATI again
[19:33] <pw-toxic> jgonick: yes you are right
[19:33] <chuckmoney> javajeff: I am as confused as you at this point.  You can certainly try rsync but running rsync for a local file copy is kinda of like running apache just to open a web page you have stored in your documents folder.  i.e. running a network server just for local access.
[19:33] <Marsjanin> hubar: tested now: simple command echo "text" > text.txt works OK in cron. The problem is only with displaying X-window apps. Running, not only displaying (if it's possible) - pgrep can't find them.
[19:34] <dietre> equiv: maybe deleting the trash-folder helps (rename it only for safety; if that works, you can also delete it)
[19:34] <chiliblue> somthing mid range
[19:34] <hubar> Marsjanin: sorry can not help you there. :(
[19:34] <Marsjanin> No problem.
[19:34] <javajeff> chuckmoney:  I may just use command line commands for basic copying files.  I was trying to automate it more syncing data
[19:35] <joaopinto> rsync is just as useful for local copies as for remote :)
[19:35] <Marsjanin> thanks for good will, hubar.
[19:35] <jgonick> pw-toxic:  there should be a menu.1st file
[19:35] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: no clue, but as a general rule any NVidia card newer than a GeForce 6200 isn't going to work well with the open source drivers.
[19:35] <Zoem> does anyone maybe know how to turn off network manager and do everything manual?
[19:35] <ConstantineXVI> javajeff, ever given dropbox a shot?
[19:35] <jgonick> pw-toxic: menu.lst i mean
[19:36] <chuckmoney> javajeff: try searching unison in synaptic.  there is another tool that shows up there which may work.  I haven't tried it but according to the summary it's much more capable than unison, albeit without a decent GUI yet.
[19:36] <javajeff> no, I am looking for programs.  I will look for it.  Thanks!
[19:36] <ratpoison> hello! assistance needed. Intrepid amd64 user. I want to connect to the internet via my usb adsl modem sagem fast 800. Do I still need to isntall firmware and stuff? How do I configure teh new network manager thingy?
[19:36] <dietre> Zoem, have you tried removing network-manager?
[19:36] <ConstantineXVI> Zoem, i believe NM gives you a fair amount of manual control, r-click, edit connections
[19:36] <javajeff> how come I cannot delete a full directory with rmdir -r .unison ???
[19:37] <Slylias> where can I check for open bugs in an ubuntu driver?
[19:37] <vox> javajeff: what's the error
[19:37] <JonRob> hi all, just removed ubuntu from a computer, but am left with grub tht won't boot and can't get into the existing vista partition
[19:37] <ville__> Hello guys! I have an toshiba laptop with Ati Mobility Radeon 9000 do you know if i
[19:37] <JonRob> don't have installation cds
[19:37] <chuckmoney> javajeff: I usually just use -rf.  the -f (or force) flag has magical powers when used with rm
[19:37] <ville__> sry
[19:37] <Zoem> ConstantineXVI NM now has the nm-connection-editor as its connection editor, which throws an error whenever I try to edit a connection
[19:37] <JonRob> is there anyone to fix it!?!
[19:37] <joaopinto> JonRob, ask for help on ##windows, how to restore the windows boot loader
[19:37] <esperegu> JonRob: why would you remove ubuntu?
[19:37] <Zoem> dietre I have been holding off an that since it seemed a bit drastic
[19:37] <ConstantineXVI> JonRob, have a windows disk handy?
[19:37] <javajeff> rmdir: invalid option -- 'r'
[19:38] <Marsjanin> JonRob: Have You got the Vista CD/DVD?
[19:38] <JonRob> no no cd/dvd
[19:38] <NemesisD> so whats the word on the new version. are there widespread reports of borked installations from upgrading? i usually try to wait about a week after its released
[19:38] <joaopinto> javajeff, it's rm, not rmdir
[19:38] <prince_jammys> javajeff: rmdir only removes empty dirs.  rm -r directory
[19:38] <JonRob> if i reinstall ubuntu
[19:38] <JonRob> it'll fix up grub
[19:38] <esperegu> JonRob: sure
[19:38] <JonRob> and then i can fix things properly!?
[19:38] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: do you use a 6200...they are pennies now...if it is going to be less hassle than this ATI I might get one
[19:38] <ConstantineXVI> JonRob, your only shot is to get a windows disk, fire up the recovery console, and fixmbr, or reinstall ubuntu
[19:38] <Marsjanin> Usually Windows should fix the MBR, when you boot (and do some commands) from the bootcd.
[19:38] <Zoem> ConstantineXVI "Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only).." is the error it gives me
[19:39] <JonRob> ok...just need to get my hands on an ubuntu disc again now
[19:39] <javajeff> you know what, I did an rm -r first, but it gave me an error that it was a directory.  It worked now though, thanks.
[19:39] <Blah> JonRob you could also use Gparted ?
[19:39] <JonRob> Blah: to fix mbr?
[19:39] <esperegu> what is the correct way to resize partitions with lvm?
[19:39] <JonRob> either way i need to get a disc...
[19:39] <JonRob> thanks for the advice, have to nip out now 'cos my other comp doesn't have a dvd drive
[19:39] <Slylias> I have found a bug with the driver that supports the 8187 wifi chipset (realtek), where do I report it? Also, where is the source for this driver located, as I'd like to try to fix it (I'm a programmer)
[19:39] <Marsjanin> JonRob: Try to edit the boot.lst file when you boot from CD Uubntu.
[19:39] <Blah> JonRob oh.. no. sry. for that you will need a win disk
[19:40] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: I had a laptop with a 6200.  The laptop fried, I replaced one too many HDDs and killed the SCSI bus, but the graphics card always worked fine.  Only trouble is that something as low as a 6200 won't do dual monitors.  But yeah, it works fine as long as you're not trying to play any advanced windows gamed, i.e. Crysis is a definate no-go.
[19:40] <JonRob> thanks for the advice
[19:40] <rockstar92> so my computer cannot connect to local or password protected wireless networks, why
[19:40] <ConstantineXVI> Slylias, if you know the package, "sudo apt-get source package" will fetch the source
[19:40] <Slylias> I don't know the package. It's the driver for the 8187 realtek wifi chipset.
[19:41] <sebas8911> hey folks, I'm having problem with the default-language in kdm, I want it in spanish... but not working.  even, I have put the system in es_AR
[19:41] <Slylias> it is plug and play in ubuntu
[19:41] <devmon> Hello, I have ubuntu authenticating against an Open Directory (ldap) and Im getting the error about the not found home directory. The directory server is on a different box.. Can anyone help?
[19:41] <sebas8911> anyone can help on this issue ?
[19:41] <genii> Slylias: rtl8187
[19:41] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: the most advanced thin I am likely to play will be tuxracer :) I like fancy desktop effects...I just like to keep it all opensource
[19:41] <ratpoison> hello! assistance needed. Intrepid amd64 user. I want to connect to the internet via my usb adsl modem sagem fast 800. Do I still need to isntall firmware and stuff? How do I configure teh new network manager thingy?
[19:41] <Slylias> thank you genii
[19:41] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: A 6200 will do the advanced level of Compiz eye candy in GNOME without breaking a sweat, so for every day use it's plenty.  Personally I couldn't be happy without dual monitors.
[19:41] <jgonick> pw-toxic: does menu.lst mention your windows?
[19:42] <morphir> what is your memory usage on idle?
[19:42] <FFForever> anyone know how i can install the ath5k drivers in ubuntu 8.04
[19:42] <zamba> i need a way to control the fan speed of my dell laptop.. what can i use for that?
[19:42] <chiliblue> chuckmoney: no space for a 2nd display here so it won't be an issue for me
[19:42] <Zoem> can someone tell me the ip's for opendns plz?
[19:42] <zamba> it's insanely hot
[19:42] <chuckmoney> chiliblue: and Tuxracer runs great on my EEE with an Intel GMA945 so ot might as well be windows solitare.  Yeah, a 6200 will do for you great.
[19:43] <Slylias> Problem: E: Unable to find a source package for rtl8187
[19:43] <Twerk^> GMA945 seems great for every day use
[19:43] <rockstar92> is there something i need to do to let my computer connect to local wireless networks?
[19:43] <rockstar92> it doesnt work
[19:43] <Blah> rockstar92: you have a wireless card right?
[19:43] <genii> Slylias: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=rtl8187.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any     shows the package it's in (Hardy but same on Intrepid)
[19:43] <rockstar92> well yeah lol
[19:44] <Blah> rockstar92: haha.. sry have to check
[19:44] <dietre> rockstar92, for me it worked out of the box, with wpa2 and so on
[19:44] <dietre> rockstar92, it shouldn't be necessary
[19:44] <Chlorate> I have the Atheros 242x wireless card and it cannot detect any wireless networks. Any advice?
[19:44] <rockstar92> it works fine on regualar wifi but local and passworded ones just loop over and over...
[19:44] <Slylias> Why rtl8187.ko? What is the ko?