[15:20] <marienz> chris__: you'll have to provide more information (LarsTorben seems to be grasping at straws)
[15:20] <damno__> chris, wish I could help you. u better look in ubuntuforums.org
[15:20] <LarsTorben> ubuntu-desktop WILL be installed
[15:20] <LarsTorben> First it will be removed then intsalled gain
[15:20] <LarsTorben> again
[15:20] <LarsTorben> it isnt dangerous !!
[15:21] <marienz> LarsTorben: you typoed your install command (you said "apt-get install desktop")
[15:21] <LarsTorben> no apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:21] <damno__> chris, wish I could help you. u better look in ubuntuforums.org
[15:21] <marienz> LarsTorben: also, why do you believe reinstalling just a metapackage will help?
[15:21] <LarsTorben> because this metapackages reinstalls gnome desktop
[15:21] <aeon-ltd> LarsTorben: also you missed out && so it could be one command
[15:21] <LarsTorben> and his gnome-desktop is crashed
[15:21] <chris__> marien 10.04 ubuntu.  Was working great.  I ran the auto update as usual.  Then turned off the computer.  Later in the day I turned it on and booted into gnome.  Now gnome boots up but if I click on anything it just hangs forever.  KDE is working fine now.
[15:21] <arand> aeon-ltd: afaik, LO has moved quite a bit from oo already.
[15:22] <damno__> LarsTorben, u really seem crazy!
[15:22] <marienz> chris__: "anything" meaning the desktop or things on the panel or both?
[15:22] <damno__> aran, yes it has
[15:22] <aeon-ltd> arand: last time i used it just seemed less 'heavy'
[15:22] <damno__> oracle diong it their way
[15:23] <chris__> marien the panel and the desktop icons.  When I click on an icon, all the icons dissapear, the HD light goes on and just stays on, nothing happens.  If I click on the panel it will show the options for that menu system, they vanish and additional clicks on the panel do nothing
[15:23] <marienz> chris__: I don't have time to dig through this right now, but you'll have to narrow it down to something smaller than "gnome" (do gnome apps still work in the kde desktop? Which parts of the desktop do and do not work? Anything in ~/.xsession-errors? etc)
[15:23] <Oldgram> usb-creator doesn't work, I used UNetbootin instead and it seems to work
[15:23] <chris__> marien nothing at all works.
[15:23] <chris__> marien ah...
[15:23] <chris__> marien let me see.
[15:23] <damno__> chris, please post a thread with your probs in ubuntuforums.org
[15:24] <marienz> chris__: does it still work if you turn off desktop effects (assuming you can figure out how to do that from kde)?
[15:24] <damno__> I guess there's probs in chris's gconf
[15:24] <chris__> attyn  works in kde desktop
[15:25] <brightspark> chris__, can you launch a terminal using ctrl-alt-t?
[15:26] <damno__> chris,  do Alt+F2, navigate to desktop> gnome> interface and see if u can do something
[15:26] <chris__> dammo I wasnt able to do that
[15:26] <chris__> in my busted gnome I cannot open other terminals
[15:26] <chris__> nothing works
[15:26] <kwtm> Hi. What command-line command can I give (probably "dpkg ...something") that can list all the packages slated to be installed (+/- upgraded) which are not yet installed?
[15:26] <damno__> Ail+F4 then type in gconf-editor
[15:26] <chris__> all I get is my desktop picture
[15:26] <TheBIGone> Why Ubuntu is better than Windows ?
[15:27] <chris__> dammo I can do that from KDe right?
[15:27] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: it isn't, but based on your needs it could be
[15:27] <damno__> not from kde
[15:27] <ericxe> Hi
[15:28] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: use ipods? cameras? other peripherals excessively>
[15:28] <aeon-ltd> ?
[15:28] <Artemios> Does 11.04 beta workd fine?
[15:28] <jiohdi> TheBIGone: no anti-virus needed ... makes system faster
[15:28] <Artemios> Does 11.04 beta works fine?
[15:28] <Daekdroom> !natty | Artemios
[15:28] <chris__> so when I enter terminal and type gconf-editor (in KDE) I see this right off the bat: GConf Error: Type mismatch: Expected `bool' got `string' for key /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons
[15:28] <ericxe> i have  recently installed xubuntu 10.10 and i have not sound.... can someone help me? please!
[15:28] <mrdeb> yes it works, with compiz off and ingnome
[15:28] <TheBIGone> aeon-ltd playing computer games, chat (skype, irc etc.) , Documents (words,excel) .. that`s why I use mostly
[15:28] <ericxe>  i have  recently installed xubuntu 10.10 and i have not sound.... can someone help me? please!
[15:29] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: then i'd dual boot just for the games aspect, the others can be done in ubuntu easily
[15:29] <Polah> jiohdi: Not exactly true. Anti-virus systems are recommended when dealing with Windows systems on the same network, as you may pass on an infected file but not actually execute the virus yourself. This applies to things like mail servers. There are also a few dozen viruses for Linux.
[15:29] <TheBIGone> My computer was with Ubuntu when I bought it .. but then I buy Windows 7
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> ericxe: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[15:29] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: you already bought it?
[15:29] <TheBIGone> yeah.. :)
[15:29] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: then just dual boot anyway if you have a hour spare
[15:29] <damno__> kwtm, dpkg --get-selections > ~/Desktop/installed-software
[15:30] <ericxe> ericxe@EricPC:~$  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[15:30] <ericxe> --2011-04-09 11:29:44--  http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[15:30] <ericxe> Resolviendo alsa-project.org... <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:30] <ericxe> Conectando a alsa-project.org|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... conectado.
[15:30] <ericxe> Petición HTTP enviada, esperando respuesta... 302 Found
[15:30] <ericxe> Ubicación: http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh [siguiente]
[15:30] <FloodBot3> ericxe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:30] <TheBIGone> aeon-ltd there is 1 program with which you cann install ubuntu into windows hard without preinstall
[15:30] <jiohdi> Polah: while that is true, for the most part non -server users can get by without an anti-virus as I have for well over a year
[15:30] <TheBIGone> wubi is the name
[15:30] <TheBIGone> it is good ?
[15:30] <Polah> jiohdi: They can indeed.
[15:30] <kwtm> damno__: Thanks ... I thought that just said which have already been installed? Does that tell me which have not yet been installed?
[15:30] <Polah> TheBIGone, I'd recommend installing Ubuntu in it's own partition.
[15:30] <chris__> merian trying to turn off desktop effects, kde is a bit weird.. gnome apps workin kde for me though. I am in gconf-editor but have no idea what im doing in here
[15:31] <jiohdi> TheBIGone: wubi can be dangerous... it does not make a real install, it makes a special file within windows and when you update linux it can make the system crash
[15:31] <damno__> all
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> TheBIGone: I think not, it's nice for a quick try before you buy but as a long term solution I personally wouldn't use it and would use a true install
[15:31] <aeon-ltd> TheBIGone: its buggy still...., its a bigger risk than just livecd insatlls with grub
[15:31] <damno__> on your desktop the file will be created
[15:31] <TheBIGone> Oh I see, thanks gyus
[15:32] <itilious> can some one help me?
[15:32] <chris__> dammo think it might help if I rename all my .gconf files?
[15:32] <itilious> i lost my penis
[15:32] <kwtm> damno__: Was that "all" intended for me?  What can I do to filter in only the ones which still have to be installed?  I'm trying to see whether I have enough bandwidth to "apt-get dselect-upgrade" all these packages or whether I have to pick and choose manually.
[15:32] <damno__> kwtm,  u may see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580857
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> !ot | itilious
[15:33] <damno__> ok , keep the file on another systems desktop; and then if you run   dpkg --set-selections < installed-software   the uninstalled ones will be installed
[15:33] <damno__> @kwtm,
[15:34] <damno__> kwtm,  got it?
[15:34] <kwtm> damno__: I have read through the first half of it, and it still does not address my question.  I just did the dpkg --set-selections <PreviousFile but due to an intermittent connection, not all packages were upgraded.  Now I want to know which packages are left to be installed.
[15:34] <phoenixsampras> BUG!! when i change the ip address on gnome network manager ... it doesnt change??  i do ifconfig eth0 and still the old address
[15:34] <kwtm> damno__: No, I should clarify my question.  I am *not* trying to install all the uninstalled software.  I already know how to do that.
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: try disabling the interface, then re-enabling it
[15:35] <damno__> kwtm, then what do u want
[15:35] <kwtm> damno__: I want to know, *if/when* I install "all uninstalled software left to be installed"  (via the "apt-get dselect-upgrade" command), WHICH packages will be installed.
[15:35] <kwtm> damno__: For example, is there some "apt-cache policy all" and then I pipe it through "grep needs-to-be-installed" or something?
[15:36] <damno__> kwtm, sorry, I never tryed those
[15:37] <kwtm> damno__: Ok, no problem.  I see from the dpkg man page that it can list package status.  Can I somehow list the status of all the packages instead of specifying a package name?
[15:37] <damno__> kwtm,  what do u mean by this "all uninstalled software left to be installed" ?
[15:37] <kwtm> damno__: Ok, nm, I found it ... it's "dpkg --yet-to-unpack"
[15:38] <damno__> ok,  time to go.
[15:38] <kwtm> damno__: I have selected (say) 100 packages to be installed, and did "apt-get dselect-upgrade".  In the middle of this, my connection went bad.  Then it went back up.  So, only 75 packages were installed (let's say).  So now there are 25 packages left to be installed.  I want to know WHICH 25 packages are marked for install but were not installed due to the bad connection.
[15:38] <kwtm> damno__: Thanks for your help.
[15:40] <work> Does anyone's XChat Gnome keep closing by itself???
[15:40] <stupidhead> hi all, i've just tried adding software source for handbreak and even after i've updated list it still doesn't recognise the "handbreak" package - double checked and it is there in software sources - can anybody help me out please?
[15:40] <VV0lf> Does anyone's Xchat keep exiting by itself?
[15:41] <byoungmn> Nope, mine has been up for two days, no drop  or crash here
[15:41] <raven_> virtual box trying to install vbox 4 from the website but ubuntu tells me about conflicts to the installed 3.2 version...
[15:41] <cox> who am i
[15:41] <mrdeb> can you change labels with gparted
[15:41] <smw> stupidhead, did you import their gpg key?
[15:41] <VV0lf> byoungmn, thanks for the respond...
[15:41] <VV0lf> Hmmm...
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> I
[15:41] <VV0lf> I'm not sure...
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> H
[15:41] <ericxe> I've recently installed Xubuntu 10.10 and i don't have sound... can someone help me please?
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> A
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> T
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> E
[15:41] <FloodBot3> WolfMitchell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:41] <WolfMitchell> U
[15:42] <DETERMINOLOGY> Is there a date on ubuntu 11.04?
[15:42] <VV0lf> it doesn't have any problem if I go to Ubuntu
[15:42] <VV0lf> but whenever I try to go to HackThisSite's IRC Channel
[15:42] <VV0lf> it keeps closing
[15:42] <stupidhead> smw: no it didn't mention anything about that, only did the ppa thing
[15:42] <byoungmn> 22nd of the month I JUST read
[15:42] <VV0lf> and when I try to edit preferences, it quites itself...
[15:42] <VV0lf> hmmmm... Is this HackThisSite's problem?
[15:43] <VV0lf> thanks for anyone who's reading my messages.
[15:43] <ericxe> I've recently installed Xubuntu 10.10 and i don't have sound... can someone help me please??
[15:43] <mrdeb> ericxe: open terminal and type alsamixer, then press M to unmute master and pcm
[15:44] <ericxe> they are unmuted
[15:45] <VV0lf> @ericxe What hardware are you using?
[15:45] <stupidhead> no clues on this one then?
[15:45] <ericxe> @mrdeb they are unmuted
[15:46] <ericxe> @VV0lf SIS onboard
[15:46] <VV0lf> @ericxe Give me sometime to do some digging. I'm on a slow line...
[15:46] <hi988> hello
[15:46] <bob__756> ericxe: go to system preferences and sound and adust levels - that worked for me
[15:47] <vercing> hello
[15:47] <hi988> can i do anything by terminal?
[15:47] <VV0lf> @ericxe are you using sis 7012?
[15:48] <benzaldehyde> hi988: pretty much, i am talking to you from x-term via irssi
[15:48] <hi988> ok
[15:48] <benzaldehyde> *xterm
[15:48] <WolfMitchell> bored
[15:48] <hi988> what is irssi?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> WolfMitchell: www.miniclip.com
[15:49] <benzaldehyde> hi988: an irc client
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> !info irssi | hi988
[15:49] <ericxe> @<bob__756> i've already did it and still doesn't work :(
[15:49] <WolfMitchell> I HATE miniclip
[15:49] <ericxe> @<VV0lf> yes!
[15:49] <byoungmn> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Maverick
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> te multiplayer pool is coolio ;)
[15:49] <ericxe> @VV0lf yes!
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> List of things I hate:
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> Ubuntu
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> Miniclip
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> Parental Controls
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> My BIOS
[15:50] <FloodBot3> WolfMitchell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> Poison
[15:50] <benzaldehyde> hi988: phonetically dictated to me as literal as vi is refered to by enunciating each individual letter, i-r-s-s-i
[15:50] <hi988> can i connect webnet  by teminal directly?
[15:50] <VV0lf> @erixe : I notice someone is saying that they have that problem. You can check out this page ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484876
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> My gosh... It didnt even flood!
[15:50] <WolfMitchell> I only flooded once.
[15:51] <VV0lf> @ericxe  I notice someone is saying that they have that problem. You can check out this page ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484876
[15:51] <benzaldehyde> WolfMitchell: EtOH is a poison
[15:51] <VV0lf> @ericxe it is tried on older versions of Ubuntu. I think it should work the same with Xubuntu. If I'm not wrong, the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu is the interface engine used.
[15:52] <WolfMitchell> Can i DCC a virus to FloodBot?
[15:53] <Daekdroom> !ops | WolfMitchell
[15:53] <iceroot> WolfMitchell: stop it please
[15:53] <kernelles> Hi everyone! Just hanging out to learn.
[15:53] <WolfMitchell> I WAS KIDDING -_-
[15:53] <ericxe> @VV0lf but in ubuntu it works perfectly
[15:53] <WolfMitchell> Gosh, Cant take a joke.
[15:53] <ericxe> @VV0lf the problem is here in Xubuntu, and i don't know why
[15:53] <Daekdroom> WolfMitchell, this is a technical support channel.
[15:53] <m4v> WolfMitchell: maybe you want #ubuntu-offtopic then?
[15:54] <VV0lf> @ericxe Hmmm... I'm quite noob also... Let me see check it out...
[15:54] <WolfMitchell> And BTW, How to you go back to windows BIOS from grub w/o any windows partition?
[15:55] <kernelles> What is the best place to file a bug against natty beta-1 if you're not a developer?
[15:55] <Polah> WolfMitchell, there is no Windows BIOS...
[15:55] <WolfMitchell> Whatever...
[15:55] <iceroot> !bug | kernelles
[15:55] <WolfMitchell> Windows MBR\
[15:55] <Polah> There's THE BIOS, which you can generally access using F1, F8, F11, F12, delete or some other things
[15:55] <Polah> If you didn't install Windows then the Windows bootloader won't be there. GRUB is in your MBR.
[15:56] <WolfMitchell> I hate ubuntu because i dont have internet in my room and i have ubuntu on that computer
[15:56] <kernelles> @ubuttu Thanks. I did this, and it took me to launchpad, which I thought was only for developers, so just wanted to make sure I was doing it right.
[15:56] <WolfMitchell> I want to go back to windows from ubuntu.
[15:56] <Polah> WolfMitchell: You just said there was no Windows partition.
[15:56] <WolfMitchell> Cant boot from any Windows disk, Grub rejects them.
[15:57] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: fdisk /mbr
[15:57] <Polah> WolfMitchell: If you hold shift during boot it'll give you the GRUB menu which you can select to boot Windows from, if you have it installed
[15:57] <WolfMitchell> I did, I went to the boot menu, went to CD-ROM, when my Windows XP Disk was in, and it booted into Ubuntu,
[15:58] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: and talking about trying to send channel bots a virus is a sure fire way to end your conversation prematurely. please stop.
[15:58] <WolfMitchell> mne-i was kidding
[15:58] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: unfunny. so don't. thanks.
[15:59] <WolfMitchell> I dont even have windows installed anymore...
[15:59] <kernelles> Does it matter which BIOS version I use from my OEM? I dual boot with windows and natty, but I'm having suspend/resume issues. When I checked my BIOS on Asus's website, they have one for Windows, and one for "Other"
[15:59] <WolfMitchell> I just want to go back to Windows...
[15:59] <[TK]D-Fender> WolfMitchell: So go install it over
[15:59] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: use the BIOS and not GRUB to select a boot device.
[15:59] <Polah> WolfMitchell: You haven't set your optical drive with a higher boot priority then
[15:59] <WolfMitchell> I tried
[15:59] <WolfMitchell> Polah-I did...
[15:59] <mneptok> WolfMitchell: if you tell the BIOS to boot from optical media, and it boots the hard disk anyway, the problem is not with Ubuntu
[16:00] <WolfMitchell> i g2g
[16:00] <Flynsarmy> Is there a terminal command that will open a file as if you'd double clicked on it? ie open in the default app for that file
[16:00] <DETERMINOLOGY> lol
[16:00] <[TK]D-Fender> WolfMitchell: then try again and do it right.  GRUB has no control over WHICH order devices from  your system will boot
[16:00] <bong_> hi there everyone
[16:00] <kernelles> hi bong!
[16:00] <bong_> what is up in here?
[16:00] <niteesh> optical media should be made bootable. just coping files into it wont work
[16:00] <mneptok> Flynsarmy: xdg-open
[16:00] <kernelles> @bong random tech support, I think
[16:01] <bullgard4> What is the function of the process [ttm_swap]?
[16:01] <bong_> oh i see :)
[16:01] <kernelles> :-)
[16:01] <U8untu> hey i am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 from my USB (my phone, having a 2 Gb microSD card). i can install it only inside Windows, with wubi.exe, but i can`t install it instead of windows. it gives me some error: no default or ui configuration directive found
[16:01] <Flynsarmy> mneptok: thanks :)
[16:01]  * mneptok rambles off to prepare for today's flights
[16:02] <__Alex_> U8ntu: How did you get the setup files on the SD card?
[16:02] <__Alex_> U8ntu: What prob?
[16:02] <__Alex_> U8ntu: What prog?
[16:02] <U8untu> __Alex_ with unetbootin
[16:03] <__Alex_> Aha.
[16:03] <VV0lf> @ericxe Still there?
[16:03] <kernelles> I'm running 10.10 on another machine, and sometimes the window borders & controls don't display. I have to reboot (at least once) to get them back. What could cause this?
[16:03] <Noor_egy> hello
[16:03] <ericxe> @VV0lf yeah!
[16:03] <__Alex_> Man! I allwais had problems with Getting Ubuntu on a stick!
[16:03] <bong_> hello there Noor
[16:03] <kernelles> Hi, Noor!
[16:03] <rumpe1> kernelles, usually relogin should be sufficient... maybe bug with compiz?
[16:04] <Noor_egy> i just installed ubuntu 10.10 looks great :) , i liked it
[16:04] <bong_> maverick meerkat?
[16:04] <bong_> same here :D
[16:04] <Noor_egy> i used 8.04 before but wasnt that good
[16:04] <tekonivelo> i wonder if anybody else has seen Unity not draw the panel #753245
[16:04] <kernelles> Hmm. Thanks, rumpel.
[16:04] <rumpe1> kernelles, or entering "compiz --replace & disown" or "metacity --replace & disown" in terminal
[16:05] <tekonivelo> wait, what is the bot syntax for getting bugs? lp:753245
[16:05] <__Alex_> bong_ Is there a different version of uBUNT?
[16:05] <kernelles> @rumpel. Thanks! I'll try that.
[16:05] <U8untu> __Alex_ and if i am formatting the card.. i have FAT and FAT32 .. how to format a FAT16 ?
[16:05] <bong_> What are your thoughts on the Unity interface?
[16:05]  * tekonivelo is failing
[16:05] <tekonivelo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/753245
[16:05] <WolfMitchell> Back...
[16:05] <__Alex_> FAT16=FAT=VFAT
[16:05] <tekonivelo> bong_: i really like Unity
[16:05] <tekonivelo> bong_: i'm using a netbook, that makes a difference
[16:05] <bong_> what makes you like it?
[16:06] <bong_> oh i see
[16:06] <WolfMitchell> I tried pretty much any way to go back to Windows from ubuntu...None worked
[16:06] <__Alex_> U8untu: You are installing on a netbook?
[16:06] <U8untu> no, my computer
[16:06] <tekonivelo> bong_: i like it that it tries to distance itself from the traditional "desktop-metaphor"
[16:06] <kernelles> @bong, I've been running Natty beta 1 on my laptop for the last week, and loving it
[16:06] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[16:07] <U8untu> __Alex_ my computer.. desktop edition ubuntu
[16:07] <bong_> @kernelles: what's natty?
[16:07] <__Alex_> U8untu: Your Optical Drive got burned?
[16:07] <tekonivelo> bong_: f.ex. the dash is much nicer idea than some sort of a hierarchical "main menu"
[16:07] <atlef> !natty | kernelles
[16:07] <kernelles> @bong Sorry, Natty is the name for the newest release of Ubuntu 11.04, to be released Apr. 28
[16:07] <kernelles> It uses Unity as the default UI
[16:07] <U8untu> __Alex_ dunno ... but i know that my CD-ROM burned..it doesn`t work
[16:07] <bong_> oh i see but can i switch to gnome if i use that?
[16:08] <U8untu> __Alex_ its strange that the computer recognizes the CD-ROM but its not working
[16:08] <__Alex_> kernelles: So natty is like Testing in debian?
[16:08] <tekonivelo> loads of discussion about Unity on OMG Ubuntu these days
[16:08] <__Alex_> did you set the boot order in bios to be CDRom=1, HDD=2
[16:09] <tekonivelo> which is good of course, that discourse needs to be had
[16:09] <VV0lf> @ericxe If you are using Xubuntu 10.10
[16:09] <bong_> Hi people, can I upgrade to Natty if I have Maverick installed?
[16:09] <chewy> hi guys, ... a stupid one. how can i get with 10.10 unity remix netbook the windows partitions?!
[16:09] <VV0lf> @ericxe It shouldn't be a problem...
[16:09] <kernelles> @Alex, no Natty is the next version of Ubuntu
[16:09] <chewy> i need access to them... i installed ntfs blabla, ...
[16:09] <brightspark> __Alex_, more like Sid.
[16:09] <U8untu> __Alex_ i set it..but..dunno.. now i unplugged the CD-ROM..i got mad
[16:09] <VV0lf> @ericxe as Alsa is automatically loaded during bootime...
[16:09] <tekonivelo> bong_: i did just that , from Maverick to Narry beta 1
[16:09] <bong_> Hmmm can I downgrade if I don't like Narry?
[16:09] <kernelles> @bong, Yes, but do so at your own risk, as it is for testing purposes only
[16:09] <rumpe1> chewy, "sudo fdisk -l", create mountpoints, mount the partitions... or use some fancy ntfs-toolkit :)
[16:10] <kernelles> @bong, you can't downgrade once you upgrade.
[16:10] <pcperini> hey- i'm running ubuntu as an ftp server, and one of the users (co-owner of the ftp server) accidentally deleted a fistful of files. is there any way to recover that? he's running cyberduck as an ftp client, if its relevant.
[16:10] <VV0lf> @ericxe Could you open synaptic and search for alsa-utils and alsa base and check if they are installed?
[16:10] <kernelles> If you want to try it, run from a live USB or CD/DVD instead
[16:10] <rumpe1> pcperini, which filesystem?
[16:10] <__Alex_> U8untu: Strange!, If you press F12 at startup of ypur comp, does a menu appear? (Boot selector)
[16:10] <U8untu> __Alex_ and i also tried all the possible methods...like i have read on ubuntu forums..
[16:10] <bong_> @kernelles: Aw, too sad. :( But I might try it :)
[16:10] <hipitihop> Is there a commonly used app which people use when scripting instalations, which watches what gets installed, when, parameters etc and the stores that as som form of specification or manifest so if you wanted to get a new machine into the same state you just play the manifest so to speak ?
[16:10] <chewy> rumpe1, no way. this is supposed to be EASY for noobs. iconish everywhere, ... no command line..
[16:10] <U8untu> __Alex_ no..it appears that error.. no default or ui configuration directive found
[16:11] <rumpe1> chewy, as i said... i think, there is some clicky-ntfs-tool in package-manager...
[16:11] <__Alex_> Then how did you get Windows there?
[16:11] <pcperini> rumpe1: you mean the filesystem of the disk or the ftp daemon?
[16:11] <kernelles> @bong I put it on my laptop, but that's because it's not my main machine.
[16:11] <ericxe> @VV0lf yes, they are installed
[16:11] <U8untu> __Alex_ where?
[16:11] <bong_> Is there a shortcut for opening the terminal on gnome?
[16:12] <rumpe1> bong_, alt-f2, "gnome-terminal"
[16:12] <chewy> there s onem yes rumpe1, but only istallable in sudo mode. and it appears then in the desktop but not in the unity one. it should be under apps or folders, ...
[16:12] <kernelles> @bong one advantage of this, if you don't need to count on that machine, is you find any bugs it has on your machine and file a report, so they can hopefully fix it before release.
[16:12] <bong_> @rumpel, thanks :)
[16:12] <__Alex_> U8untu: You told that the only way to install Ubuntu on your comp, is using Windows, using WUBi, so how did you get windows on your comp?
[16:12] <rumpe1> bong_, ah... or strg-alt-t
[16:13] <U8untu> __Alex_ i have windows..since.....5 or 6 years..and i want to get rid of it..i want ubuntu instead of it
[16:13] <bong_> @rumpel: German?
[16:13] <__Alex_> Hmm.
[16:13] <bong_> @rumpel: thanks for the tips :)
[16:13] <VV0lf> @ericxe Arrrgh... Sorry... I guess I'm still very noob... not sure how to help you. One experience I did have was in my sound preference, I changed my sound hardware from Internal Audio to HDMI.
[16:14] <VV0lf> @ericxe, you could check yours and see if you had anything similar to what I did...
[16:14] <__Alex_> U8untu: I think there is no way to install ubuntu on your comp, if you can't even boot it.
[16:15] <__Alex_> U8untu: Have you tried other distros, like Debian for example, if it works?
[16:15] <U8untu> __Alex_ and if i install ubuntu on another partition.. having both windows and ubuntu ..its not working properly.. the partition on wich is ubuntu has 130 Gb ..the installation size is set to 3 Gb ... and it cannot uptade...it says that i have no more free space..
[16:15] <joker_> where's my qq
[16:15] <joker_> with ylmf 3
[16:15] <pcperini> rumpe1: the filesystem type is vfat; the daemon is proftpd
[16:16] <U8untu> __Alex_ no..i tried just ubuntu.. its the only OS in linux i like..i don`t know how the other linux OS are :D
[16:16] <bullgard4> What is the function of the process [ttm_swap]?
[16:16] <__Alex_> U8untu: It's because of WUBI installs on a disk Image, not a real disk
[16:16] <rumpe1> pcperini, well... at first you should unmount the partition, create an image and then use testdisk or similar tools to maybe recover some files...
[16:17] <pcperini> rumpe1: no guarantees though, i'm guessing?
[16:17] <__Alex_> U8untu: What is your processor? amd64 or i386?
[16:17] <U8untu> __Alex_ so i should try another linux OS? like linux mint or debian..or what?
[16:17] <U8untu> dunno :D how do i find out? :))
[16:18] <rumpe1> pcperini, absolutely none... usually most people learn from these experiences and make more often backups ^^
[16:18] <__Alex_> U8untu: Is your comp a quadcore of a dualcore? Or a normal singlecore
[16:18] <U8untu> i think its amd..because when i start my pc it says AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
[16:18] <kernelles> Why is 64 bit called "AMD" even if the chip is Intel? And why is 64 bit Ubuntu not recommended?
[16:18] <pcperini> rumpe1: kk. thanks
[16:18] <U8untu> my pc is a 32 bit
[16:18] <__Alex_> kernelles: Becaus it has less compiled packages
[16:19] <rumpe1> kernelles, historical reasons... and why should 64bit ubuntu not be recommended ?
[16:19] <oCean> kernelles: AMD came up with the 64bit extensions
[16:19] <DETERMINOLOGY> heres my ? tho
[16:19] <kernelles> @Alex, you mean fewer programs are available for 64 bit?
[16:19] <DETERMINOLOGY> what if you got like 6-8 gigs of ram
[16:19] <__Alex_> kernelles: That means you need to DIY, and some packages are closed source
[16:19] <DETERMINOLOGY> would it then be useless to run 32 bit?
[16:19] <DETERMINOLOGY> eh
[16:19] <kernelles> @Alex I see. Thanks!
[16:19] <mrdeb> yes 32bit is useless
[16:20] <oCean> mrdeb: what, why
[16:20] <atlef> !pae | DETERMINOLOGY:
[16:20] <U8untu> __Alex_ my pc is AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+, 1.80 GHz, 640 Mb RAM, NVidia GeForce FX5200 of 128 Mb :D
[16:20] <rumpe1> DETERMINOLOGY, that 64bit ubuntu is much inferior to 32bit is an old myth
[16:20] <kernelles> @oCean Interesting, didn't know that. I found this confusing, but that makes sense
[16:20] <mrdeb> bec it holds back the community from makign 64bit programs when almost all processors are 64bit now
[16:20] <U8untu> oh..and the HDD has 250 Gb
[16:20] <__Alex_> U8untu: then it's a i386
[16:20] <U8untu> oh
[16:21] <U8untu> __Alex_ well..thats the ubuntu i downloaded.. the i386 ...
[16:21] <__Alex_> U8untu: Try to download and burn this: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[16:21] <__Alex_> If it works
[16:22] <U8untu> __Alex_ download it and burn it..and then? try to boot it?
[16:22] <U8untu> its a full version..or what?
[16:22] <__Alex_> Yes, if it boots
[16:23] <__Alex_> No, it's debian, i want to try if it is just Ubuntu's problem
[16:23] <kernelles> @DETERMINOLOGY Wow! Thanks, I didn't know this was possible!
[16:24] <DETERMINOLOGY> what?
[16:24] <U8untu> __Alex_ with which should i burn it? with unetbootin or Universal-USB-installer?
[16:24] <Daniel0108> hi
[16:25] <kernelles> Got to go. Bye, everyone!
[16:25] <sasha> asd ads
[16:25] <__Alex_> UNetBootin
[16:25] <durando> how do you setup netmount under ubuntu?
[16:25] <muneeb> hi! if i install gnome-shell will i get option to switch back 2.3??
[16:25] <sasha> no
[16:26] <__Alex_> U8untu: and when it boots to the insaller, remove the usb-stick
[16:26] <U8untu> oke..be right back
[16:26] <Daniel0108> muneeb: do you want to install gnome3?
[16:26] <__Alex_> ok
[16:26] <Andy80> hi all, escuse me a quick question: could you please point me to the right channel/forum/mailing list/wiki ecc.... where to discuss about UDS? Thanks :)
[16:26] <__Alex_> !uds
[16:27] <muneeb> Daniel0108, yes
[16:27] <Daniel0108> muneeb: which ubuntu version? 10.10 or 11.04?
[16:27] <muneeb> Daniel0108, 10.10
[16:27] <oCean> Andy80: there is also an #ubuntu-uds channel, not sure if anyone is there though
[16:27] <tania1> hi guys, I nedd help :) my Ubuntu doesn't log on.
[16:27] <Daniel0108> muneeb: you can't just install gnome-shell, it's made for 11.04
[16:28] <Andy80> __Alex_: that is the website, I already know about it. But no link to any discussions :\
[16:28] <muneeb> Daniel0108, but i can see it in apt-cache search
[16:28] <__Alex_> Aha
[16:28] <Daniel0108> use this command to install gnome3 and LEAVE gnome2 on 10.10
[16:28] <Daniel0108> muneeb: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome3-builds && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[16:28] <Andy80> oCean: yes, I'm  inside it, but it looks ghostly :)
[16:28] <hdg> Is there an easy way to switch from persistence back to non persistence?
[16:28] <hdg> any*
[16:29] <__Alex_> Daniel0108: Do you think there is a Gnome3 for Sid?
[16:29] <muneeb> Daniel0108, i was reading that only. But is it possible to switch back? if i don't like it for some reason
[16:29] <U8untu> __Alex_ it works..it gives me the install
[16:29] <Daniel0108> muneeb: yes, you can choose GNOME 3 or Ubuntu Desktop on login
[16:29] <Daniel0108> __Alex_: what do you mean by sid? a gnome session?
[16:29] <muneeb> Daniel0108, thanks a lot .. I'll try it now
[16:30] <__Alex_> U8untu: so install it! and enjoy Debia. Sorry, it's not ubuntu, but it's linux
[16:30] <Daniel0108> muneeb: okay
[16:30] <tania1> I tried log on through of (ctrl+alt+f1) but accuses Error: /bin/bash acess denied
[16:30] <__Alex_> Danilel0l08: Sid is Debian Unstable
[16:30] <hdg> Is there an easy way to switch from persistence back to non persistence on a USB?
[16:31] <Daniel0108> __Alex_: oh, I don't know :) I just use Ubuntu and Debian Server, but I don't use Debian for personal purposes
[16:31] <U8untu> __Alex_ but ... it is a full version?cuz the image is little..why its called mini? :P
[16:31] <edbian> hdg, Use the USB creator and create the drive again (why do you want to do this?)
[16:31] <__Alex_> U8untu: It downloads all stuff from the net while install!
[16:31] <fez> hi
[16:32] <__Alex_> U8untu: What is cool
[16:32] <magic_1> hi all, hoping someone can help, took over admin of a server from one of our guys that left the company, its ubuntu 10.10 -  he however changed the password to the server and i can now not log into the server
[16:32] <magic_1> i am sitting with it here next to me
[16:32] <U8untu> __Alex_ and whats is name.. just Debian? :P
[16:32] <Sik> Silly question, I've just plugged in my GeForce 7300 GS and it works, but how do I force programs to use hardware OpenGL instead of software OpenGL? (moreover, how do I know that the hardware OpenGL drivers are actually working)
[16:32] <oCean> U8untu, __Alex_ this channel is not for debian support. You could re-try ubuntu after checksumming your downloaded iso. Debian discussion is offtopic here
[16:32] <Daniel0108> magic_1: do you have the root password?
[16:32] <__Alex_> U8untu: Yes
[16:32] <magic_1> i dont get the normal boot screen where i can boot into single mode
[16:32] <magic_1> nope
[16:33] <hdg> edbian: i want to add some programs, remove some, tweak, and then have it be nonpersistent after that
[16:33] <muneeb> Daniel0108, how do i install apps specific to gnome3? it seems they didnt get downloaded?
[16:33] <__Alex_> Ok, ok, oCean, Ill stop
[16:33] <chris__> Hi, an update broke my gnome desktop.  Is there a command to check and repair it?
[16:33] <magic_1> hi Daniel0108: unfortunately not
[16:33] <edbian> hdg, Then what you really want is to roll your own distro.  I think there are packages for that.  You can create a iso that can become a live CD or a usb drive.
[16:33] <bob__968> sik: doesn't geforce use nvidea drivers?
[16:33] <Daniel0108> muneeb: use the software center
[16:33] <hdg> ya i have done that already
[16:34] <magic_1> i see with this version, it boots similar to windows, as in there is boot selector
[16:34] <Daniel0108> muneeb: the apps have nothing to do with gnome, just with gtk :)
[16:34] <magic_1> which i could have then used
[16:34] <muneeb> Daniel0108, okay
[16:34] <hdg> the only problem is that i have been going back and forth making so many changes that it's really time consuming
[16:34] <Sik> bob__968: I guess, but I want to make sure it's using the hardware OpenGL drivers - I'm trying to run some program but it's horribly slow o_O (like, less than 2FPS for two textured triangles what)
[16:34] <magic_1> so in this can kinda stuck
[16:34] <Sik> Wine doesn't seem to be using hardware OpenGL either :|
[16:34] <magic_1> meant in this case
[16:35] <hdg> and i really just wanted to be able to "Unfreeze" then "freeze" it so i could tweak make changes and have those save as persistence
[16:35] <bob__968> sik: I used system admin drivers(or something like it) to search for drivers and it found 2
[16:35] <edbian> hdg, I'm not sure of anything that works like that
[16:36] <Sik> bob__968: ...D'OH *checks additional driver list*
[16:36] <magic_1> any ideas?
[16:36] <hdg> edbian: neither am i, for windows i have something called deepfreeze, and it works really well, I was just wondering if someone here had any idea
[16:36] <Cool0> всем ку кто русский ?)
[16:36] <Sik> Um
[16:37] <Sik> So I have version 173, version 96 and "current" version of the nVidia drivers available
[16:37] <Sik> Which one is better?
[16:37] <atlef> !ru | Cool0
[16:37] <Sik> Current being listed last makes me think it's actually the oldest, not the newest
[16:37] <__Alex_> !english | Cool0
[16:38] <bob__968> sik: try one and see - I didn't know for mine either and used the one with recomended by it
[16:38] <Sik> OK, will try that first
[16:39] <DavidJonas> ho.... i'm in big trouble. I've been setting up a server (which took multiple reinstalls and LOTs of configuring)  and now I get a warning for no swap space. I checked and I noticed the last time I partitioned the disk I forgot to add the swap partition (idiot!!). I didn't notice till now because I have 16Gb memory but I can't go live without swap and I can't reinstall because we're supposed to go live tomorrow...
[16:39] <jfb_h20> anyone have a link for the most current and best (or proper) way to install gnome3?
[16:39] <Sik> Installing...
[16:39] <DavidJonas> is there a way to set up a swap space without having to format?
[16:39] <oCean> DavidJonas: you can add a swapfile if you want
[16:39] <Sik> Meanwhile, does anybody know how to tell pulseaudio which sound device to use? >_> Because it's defaulting to the second sound device
[16:39] <jfb_h20> DavidJonas: can't you use gparted? And resize partitions?
[16:39] <oliver3> DavidJonas, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[16:40] <Sik> I'd just have one enabled but as long as pulseaudio insists on using device #2 I won't have sound
[16:40] <mneptok> DavidJonas: you could use a swap file instead of swap partition
[16:40] <Pulsar560> Hello !
[16:40] <__Alex_> hi
[16:40] <DavidJonas> thanks guys!
[16:40] <DavidJonas> what are the cons of using swap file?
[16:41] <Polah> DavidJonas, it's much slower than actual RAM.
[16:41] <mrdeb> DavidJonas: your disk space is used up uselessly if you have enough
[16:41] <oCean> DavidJonas: it is slightly slower then swap partition, which is on-disk swap too, obviously
[16:41] <mrdeb> if you have enough ram, you dont need swap
[16:41] <mneptok> DavidJonas: the biggest thing is remembering to track where that file lives, and exclude it from backup and such
[16:41] <mrdeb> anything over 2gb, no swap
[16:42] <mneptok> mrdeb: not true in all cases
[16:42] <Sik> Gotta reboot
[16:42] <oCean> mrdeb: what?
[16:42] <Polah> mrdeb: Better to be on the safe side and assign at least 2GB to swap just in case
[16:42] <mrdeb> what for
[16:43] <mrdeb> my computer never taps into swap unless you hibernate, which is absolutely useless
[16:43] <mneptok> mrdeb: without swap equal to physical RAM most laptops will not sleep or hibernate.
[16:43] <oCean> mrdeb: so that is in your specific case
[16:43] <mrdeb> mneptok: they will sleep. suspend works. you dont need hibernate, which is slow and pointelss
[16:44] <mneptok> mrdeb: i'm pretty sure i know what i need.
[16:44] <mneptok> pretty sure.
[16:44] <oCean> mrdeb: I have 8GB ram, and definitely use >2GB swap so you don't have an accurate rule-of-thumb there
[16:44] <mrdeb> oCean: what uses it
[16:45] <edbian> mneptok, They will only not sleep or hibernate if the amount of data that needs to be stored is bigger than swap.  (i.e. you try to sleep / hibernate when your ram is full)
[16:46] <edbian> mneptok, Additionally, they only use the swap partition to hibernate, sleep keeps things in ram
[16:46] <shawncm217> Banshee will not remember the settings for my portable media player. i've googled a bit, but can't find anything for this problem. Has anyone seen this, or have a google search i should try?
[16:47] <mtopus09> hi
[16:47] <ocool> any good python gui learning website
[16:47] <edbian> mrdeb, oCean mneptok For what it's worth.  I have 1Gb of ram and 1Gb of swap and it has always been more than enough.
[16:47] <ohsix> mrdeb: try not to inject opinion into trying to help people
[16:47] <mtopus09> I need help on blackbuntu
[16:47] <DavidJonas> Thanks a lot mneptok, oCean jfb_h20, mrdeb. is gparted also an option for me? I am running 10.10 Server Edition (no X)
[16:48] <mrdeb> :/
[16:48] <ohsix> mrdeb: and swap is always good; anonymous pages can go there, and other pages can go there when they haven't been touched in a while
[16:48] <VAIO> hay guys, I am having problems configuring my ZTE USB modem for CDMA in ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 beta1, it works fine in windows, ubuntu does not detect it, i think its something wrong with usb mode switch
[16:48] <ocool> please download latest driver for usb modem
[16:48] <Gatuno> hello
[16:49] <mtopus09> I can't launch ettercap
[16:49] <Gatuno> Can someone help me configuring my Grub on external USB HDD?
[16:49] <VAIO> are they available from ubuntu of from ZTE
[16:49] <ocool> yeah you can search !
[16:50] <ocool> please tell me how to run fast ubuntu
[16:50] <__Alex_> ocool: Ubuntu is sure a slow distro
[16:50] <ohsix> brrrrrrrpht
[16:50] <Seveas> ocool, install an afterburner and turbocharger
[16:51] <ocool> is opensuse better than ubuntu?
[16:51] <niklasfi> hello, i am trying to determine the host i am on using its hostname in a bash script can anyone help? https://gist.github.com/911403
[16:51] <bullgard4> What is the function of the process [ttm_swap]?
[16:51] <Seveas> !best | ocool
[16:51] <ohsix> ocool: "better" is subjective, you should probably subject yourself to something and decide for yourself
[16:51] <ohsix> bullgard4: sounds like the new page manager for drm/gem; are you using an intel card?
[16:52] <Seveas> bullgard4, processes whose name are enclosed in [...] are actually kernel threads. The name of this one suggests it does something with swap
[16:52] <FabriceMG> cool, I like 11.04 and unity !
[16:52] <Gatuno> I'm having problem booting Ubuntu on other PC's using my USB HDD, as it's treated differently on other pcs, giving it names like (fd0), (hd1), (hd2)
[16:52] <__Alex_> ocool: I use Debian, I think Ubuntu is slow, and i hate YaST on Suse, but it's everyone's personal choice
[16:52] <ocool> how to speedup my running Ubuntu version?
[16:53] <Seveas> heh, yast....
[16:53] <ohsix> Sik: bro i got answers for you
[16:53] <Gatuno> Is there a way to install it correctly so it will boot no matter what name is given to it?
[16:53] <Sik> OK, the video driver seems to work :O Now onto the other problem
[16:53] <Sik> ohsix: huh?
[16:53] <ohsix> Sik: first, use glxinfo it will tell you what is going on with rendering
[16:53] <Seveas> ocool, remove unneccessary software
[16:53] <Sik> Er, um, it was just that I needed to install the new video drivers, now OpenGL works in hardware
[16:53] <bullgard4> ohsix: lspci says: "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
[16:53] <Sik> Also glxinfo? Thanks for reminding me of the spelling :P
[16:54] <ohsix> Sik: second, open volume properties and pick the device you want to use; pulse has a list of rankings but sometimes it picks the wrong output when there are some with the same rank, if there's 2 it's 50/50 :D
[16:54] <mtopus09> please i need help on Blackbuntu. I've have a problem when, I launch Ettercarp
[16:54] <ohsix> bullgard4: maybe they use it too
[16:54] <kleopatra> Hi i have two monitors and want to run 1 with 1680*1050 and the other with 1024*768. I tried but i got the error: x-server does not support this and now i get signal at only one monitor and it annoys me i shall log out and in for every step
[16:54] <Seveas> mtopus09, we don't support derivative distros like blackbuntu
[16:54] <Sik> ohsix: the problem is that apparently the proper onboard sound drivers won't load unless it happens to be device #2
[16:54] <Sik> >_>
[16:54] <mtopus09> why ?
[16:54] <ohsix> bullgard4: or first, or at all; drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_memory.c is where the kthread is started
[16:54] <Sik> (and the order of the devices seems to be random)
[16:55] <ohsix> Sik: it is random, or rather; can't be trusted to be the same on every boot, but pulse should be using bus addresses and outputting to the one you set regardless
[16:55] <chris__> hello. So, I did some updates and my gnome desktop is not working. ubuntu 10.04. KDE is working. Other users also cannot use gnome.  I tried to fix broken packages, no good.  BUT... I just opened synaptic and it is telling me that GNOME is uninstalled.... yet I can boot into gnome, it just hangs after I do. Any ideas?
[16:55] <oCean> mtopus09: because of the repository and software changes each derivative has
[16:55] <Sik> ohsix: OK... now, how do I ensure it loads the proper drivers for the onboard sound always? (and the sound card is also hit and miss on getting it to work... ugh)
[16:56] <Sik> I just did sudo alsa reload and that seemed to get it reload the proper drivers though... Eh, I wish it was permanent though >_>
[16:56] <mtopus09> I just learning with this distribution, and I'm beginner
[16:57] <oCean> mtopus09: but it is offtopic in this channel
[16:58] <kleopatra> can someone help me ?
[16:58] <mtopus09> ok which channel should I choose ?
[16:58] <ohsix> Sik: you shouldn't have to worry about the driver loading if it is indeed a pulse problem
[16:58] <bullgard4> ohsix: I found this driver's source code on my computer too. I can now study the source code although it is not amply commented. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[16:58] <mtopus09> or where can I explain my problem on blackbuntu
[16:58] <edbian> kleopatra, Just ask your questions and if people know they will help you.
[16:58] <ohsix> Sik: alsactl reload or whatever might bypass module blacklisting, so i'd look there
[16:59] <kleopatra> edbian:  Hi i have two monitors and want to run 1 with 1680*1050 and the other with 1024*768. I tried but i got the error: x-server does not support this and now i get signal at only one monitor and it annoys me i shall log out and in for every step
[16:59] <__Alex_> !someone | kleopatra
[16:59] <bullgard4> Seveas:Tthank you for your comments.
[16:59] <Seveas> mtopus09, look on the blackbuntu website to find support
[16:59] <ohsix> bullgard4: basically the ttm is the page manager for the gem, having its own swapper lets it handle pages like memory pages and not manually like they do without it
[16:59] <Dinliani> hi guys
[16:59] <ohsix> that is, main memory pages
[16:59] <Sik> ohsix: er, whatever, at worst I'll have to load it manually, not like I boot every two seconds :P Will come back later if I outright can't get sound working again
[16:59] <Sik> See ya
[16:59] <mtopus09> ok thanks
[17:00] <Dinliani> http://pastebin.com/MhpkNaTb
[17:00] <Dinliani> this is my visudo
[17:00] <__Alex_> kleopatre: Try to set it up in the Catalyst control center
[17:00] <necromancer> hi
[17:00] <Dinliani> and i still need put passwd to use sudo
[17:00] <ocool> tell me python gui development site?
[17:00] <Dinliani> what the hell ?
[17:00] <bittin> hi
[17:00] <necromancer> i'm having some trouble getting multiple sites running on apache2
[17:00] <necromancer> (ubuntu 10)
[17:01] <Seveas> ocool, pygtk.org
[17:01] <bullgard4> ohsix: Thank you for your helpful remark.
[17:01] <necromancer> my domain mahoganytales.com always gets loaded as the "default vhost"
[17:01] <necromancer> but i want psychedeli.ca to be loaded instead
[17:01] <necromancer> the problem is, the config for the first domain is called "mahogany" and the config for the second domain is called "psycho"
[17:01] <oCean> Dinliani: you are probably not member of the %sudo group
[17:02] <necromancer> so i think "mahogany" is getting loaded first and NamedVirtualHost *:80 is being applied to it
[17:02] <Dinliani> oCean, what should i change?
[17:02] <Dinliani> and how
[17:02] <Seveas> necromancer, the default vhost is the first one listed, so change ordering.
[17:02] <necromancer> Seveas: how do i change ordering?
[17:02] <Seveas> I usually name my vhost files 00_onedomain.net and 01_nextdomain.net
[17:02] <oCean> Dinliani: use 'id' to see in which groups you are, most likely you are in the %admin group. In that case, edit the line starting with %admin accordingly
[17:02] <necromancer> is the order in a config file somewhere?
[17:02] <necromancer> Seveas: oh yeah that's what i was thinking...
[17:02] <Seveas> alphabetical by config filename
[17:02] <necromancer> Seveas: that seems a little hacky to me though :)
[17:02] <Dinliani> gid=1000(aless) oCean
[17:02] <Seveas> hacky but works :)
[17:03] <ohsix> necromancer: it's actually great :D
[17:03] <__Alex_> Dinliani: add your self to the sudoers list
[17:03] <oCean> Dinliani: that is your only group?
[17:03] <ohsix> necromancer: most config files are split up like that too; so you can control the order while not having to edit one huge file
[17:03] <Dinliani> oCean, this is my only usr too
[17:03] <Dinliani> aless is unique usr/group
[17:03] <Dinliani> user* sorry
[17:03] <__Alex_> Dinliani: Type: As superuser 'visudo'
[17:04] <oCean> Dinliani: by default your user created during install should be in some 10 groups or so
[17:04] <oCean> __Alex_: s/he did that already
[17:04] <__Alex_> aha
[17:04] <Dinliani> __Alex_, http://pastebin.com/MhpkNaTb
[17:04] <Dinliani> i edit the visudo
[17:04] <Dinliani> what should i do now?
[17:04] <Dinliani> ><
[17:04] <oCean> Dinliani: your user configuration is off. Is this the user created during install?
[17:05] <ohsix> single user mode!
[17:05] <Dinliani> oCean, yes aless is the owner of install
[17:05] <oCean> Dinliani: it should be in more groups, or it will not be possible to use several resources
[17:05] <Dinliani> oCean, how to show groups
[17:05] <__Alex_> But isn't that dangerous?
[17:05] <oCean> Dinliani: the configuration is way off. What install is this?
[17:05] <oCean> Dinliani: type 'id'
[17:05] <Dinliani> oCean, the configuration is done by me
[17:06] <Dinliani> uid=1000(aless) gid=1000(aless) groupes=1000(aless),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),111(lpadmin),119(admin),122(sambashare)
[17:06] <oCean> Dinliani: aha
[17:06] <necromancer> okay...so now that i renamed all my stuff my second domain mahoganytales.com is pointing to psychedeli.ca
[17:06] <oCean> Dinliani: you showed me previous output *only* gid=1000
[17:06] <Dinliani> yes sorry
[17:06] <Dinliani> my fault ^^
[17:07] <Dinliani> i want no passwd for ANYTHING i do
[17:07] <oCean> Dinliani: anyway, since you are in admin group, you have to edit the /etc/sudoers file again (using visudo) and change the line starting with %admin (according to the line you added starting with %sudo)
[17:07] <Dinliani> also if i erase all system files
[17:07] <Dinliani> oCean, what should i put to line %admin ?
[17:07] <__Alex_> Dinliani: But that's DANGEROUS!
[17:07] <__Alex_> !dangerous
[17:07] <oCean> Dinliani: exactly as the line starting with %sudo, but now starting with %admin
[17:08] <Dinliani> __Alex_, seriously? :)
[17:08] <thauriswulfa> ◕‿◕
[17:08] <__Alex_> yes
[17:08] <kleopatra> I cannot activate my second monitor, no matter what resolution, i tried ati center and the ubuntu stuff, what can i do??
[17:08] <Deadglow> i am getting resize operation failure on the resizing partition screen when installing ubuntu.  is there anything i can do?
[17:08] <Dinliani> oCean, thx i try to restart sessio
[17:09] <Dinliani> and see if it works
[17:09] <__Alex_> Deadglow: Yes, TO DELETE WINDOWS!
[17:09] <arand> Deadglow: Go into windows and run chkdsk and possibly also defragmentation
[17:09] <arand> __Alex_: That doesn't really help, and no need to chout.
[17:09] <necromancer> Seveas: hey i tried what you said but now it's applying the site for psychedeli.ca to all my domains
[17:10] <Dinliani> re
[17:10] <Deadglow> ok. i've run chkdsk and will try defrag
[17:10] <Dinliani> it works half
[17:10] <Dinliani> i open an archive with xarchiver and try to extract graphicly/manually files into /usr/lib/
[17:10] <Dinliani> and it fails
[17:10] <Dinliani> "you have not the right blablabla"
[17:11] <oCean> Dinliani: it is not necessary to restart anything after edit of sudoers
[17:11] <aussa> when i have windows as virtual machine, can i install drivers in it?
[17:11] <Dinliani> oCean, just tell me how to have ALL RIGHT for ANYTHING and EVERYTIME
[17:11] <wafflecakes> Does anyone know how to write a program to copy all pictures and move them to another computer?
[17:12] <oCean> Dinliani: I did. If you got it right, it will never ask for pw, however you still have to use 'sudo' and/or gksudo for graphical environment
[17:12] <benzaldehyde> i just found out that one of the creators of Debian's birthday is on Aoril 28th, Ian Murdock, the other half of the portmanteaux that makes up Debian being Debra Murdock
[17:12] <Dinliani> oCean, but when i slide files from xarchiver to /usr/lib/ it fails and return error "you have not the right"
[17:13] <Dinliani> graphicly it fails, why ?
[17:13] <Dinliani> may xarchiver use right from an other group ?
[17:13] <oCean> Dinliani: did you use gksu?
[17:13] <arand> Deadglow: For gui apps you will need to use gksudo
[17:13] <Dinliani> oCean, i use no command
[17:14] <Dinliani> oCean, i only open an rar archive
[17:14] <arand> Dinliani: You might want to look into somthing else than Ubuntu (e.g. backtrack), since Ubuntu is not at all intended to be set up in this way.
[17:14] <Dinliani> and try to slide files from here, to a /usr/lib window
[17:14] <Dinliani> arand, i like ubuntu, i just don't need a security
[17:14] <Dinliani> all my files are often saved, and if something wrong i can reinstall
[17:14] <Dinliani> i don't care.
[17:15] <Dinliani> if i install a virus, with asking me passwd, i will put the passwd
[17:16] <Dinliani> if there is no passwd, it still same
[17:16] <Dinliani> at the end, the virus still fuck my computer
[17:16] <Dinliani> in both case
[17:16] <Dinliani> passwd or not
[17:16] <FloodBot3> Dinliani: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <arand> Dinliani: Because most things are setup not to do that it will likely cause other unrelated issues as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root%20account has instructions on how to enable a root account
[17:16] <quup> Hi! I need urgent help, My HD is on its last breah, downloaded desktop .iso, tried to put on USB stick, usb-creator-gtk segfaultet, wtf do I do now?!
[17:17] <IdleOne> quup: try unetbootin
[17:17] <IdleOne> it's in the repos
[17:17] <malinens> hi! how to allow only one CPU core for the procees from terminal?
[17:18] <mindware>  my question is: if I take a android tablet firmware, and strip it clean, remain with the kernel(probabli init too)...can I build a normal linux distributin on top?
[17:18] <tigerplug292> anyone using truecrypt with ubuntu?
[17:19] <I_LOVE_LINUX> where do i look for help?
[17:19] <genec> I_LOVE_LINUX: depends on the question
[17:19] <I_LOVE_LINUX> @genec the question is based on wine
[17:20] <ikonia> #winehq is a good channel
[17:20] <Dinliani> arand, i am in usermod -l root
[17:20] <Dinliani> but my Xarchiver still have not the right to put files into /usr/lib
[17:20] <I_LOVE_LINUX> where do i look for help in wine?
[17:21] <genec> malinens: most processes will only use 1 core; only multiprocessing apps will use multiple cores
[17:21] <genec> I've encountered an error in grub during install with Ubuntu 11.04-beta1 using btrfs; trying to figure out what bug to report it on (or a new one);  I've tried #ubuntu-testing but would welcome guidance for where to report/ask question
[17:21] <Dinliani> you have not the right to extract into :  file:///usr/lib/eclipse/plugins
[17:21] <malinens> I have ffmpeg which uses all cores...
[17:21] <Dinliani> arand,  ?
[17:21] <benzaldehyde> genec: #ubuntu+1
[17:21] <arand> Dinliani: So you decided to disable the root account again?
[17:21] <genec> benzaldehyde: thanks
[17:22] <Dinliani> arand, i want all be able to do all
[17:22] <Dinliani> i assume that
[17:22] <Dinliani> and im bored of advertise, no need :)
[17:22] <Dinliani> if someone buy a cigaret, the seller wont tell him "you wanna die!"
[17:23] <ikonia> can we get back to ubuntu support discussion please
[17:23] <padhu> Hey friends list me some linux games like never ball, crack attack, pingus etc
[17:23] <mindware> again ,maybe the one person who can answer missed it :d : my question is: if I take a android tablet firmware, and strip it clean, remain with the kernel(probably init too)...can I build a normal linux distribution on top?
[17:23] <arand> Dinliani: Do read what the commands do on the wiki... Presumably, after you enabled root you need to log out and log in again with athat account, which once again, may very well break the system.
[17:23] <ikonia> mindware: no
[17:23] <Dinliani> arand, i don't want to disable root
[17:23] <mindware> ikonia : why?
[17:23] <ikonia> mindware: you may want to try that sort of question in ##linux as it's generic, rather than something ubuntu related
[17:23] <Dinliani> i want to be the root
[17:24] <Dinliani> as user 'aless"
[17:24] <ikonia> Dinliani: investigate sudo
[17:24] <ElleJayElle> mindware: i think there are ways on some devices at least, with a chroot or something, to install normal distributions, but you should probably ask in #android
[17:24] <mindware> ikonia : ok :) sorry for it :)
[17:24] <necromancer> Dinliani: that goes against unix philosophy :)
[17:24] <arand> Dinliani: Then why did you run sudo usermod -l root
[17:24] <Dinliani> ikonia, it is already done
[17:24] <Dinliani> but gksudo isn't done
[17:24] <bahamas> hello. i've installed mercurial with apt-get, but the version installed is pretty old. how can i install a newer (the newest) version?
[17:24] <necromancer> you might as well just run window
[17:24] <necromancer> windows*
[17:24] <necromancer> if you're gonna run ubuntu as root all the time graphically
[17:24] <arand> ikonia: He is intent om running X as root...
[17:24] <ikonia> oh, I missed that
[17:24] <mindware> cannot join # android...hat's the first thing I tried..
[17:24] <ikonia> mindware: ##linux
[17:24] <ElleJayElle> mindware: you need to be identified
[17:25] <ElleJayElle> !register > mindware    (mindware, see the private message from ubottu)
[17:25] <malinens> I already found. ffmpeg has  -threads 1 option...
[17:25] <lampe2> hey i wanne sync my evolution settings with my pc and notebook
[17:25] <cheshire_fox> If I were to remove the nouveau driver for my nvidia card, wouldn't I then start to run on the generica VESA driver (after reboot, of course).
[17:25] <mindware> thank you all! :)
[17:26] <Dinliani> arand, just tell me, how to graphicly extract something into a repertory (without type command) if i can't put passwd?
[17:26] <Dinliani> it just return "you can't
[17:26] <bahamas> anyone?
[17:26] <cheshire_fox> I don't have any other driver installed, proprietary or other wise.
[17:26] <Dinliani> arand, then i just want to put all right to graphics to be sure i wont be blocked by this
[17:26]  * cheshire_fox pokes people
[17:27] <flan_suse> I'm still unable to upgrade to Banshee 2.0 with the Ubuntu PPA. Manually browsing the PPA shows 2.0 packages, but in my package manager, on 1.8 packages are listed.
[17:28] <edbian> bahamas, You can download and install from the website.  This is discouraged though.  The versions in the repos are usually in there because of a good reason.  I suggest you wait until ubuntu 11.04 that comes out on the 28th
[17:28] <Memphizzz> Hi all. after logging in i see my HDD activity led blinking all the time. how can i figure out which process is causing this activity? gnome-system-monitor only shows cpu activity...
[17:29] <BluesKaj> cheshire_fox, I tried removing the nouveau driver , but wasn't successful , the only way is to install the recommended driver in admin HW jockeyafaik
[17:29] <bahamas> edbian: i'm already using an older version of ubuntu, so i don't i'll be updating any time soon
[17:29] <bahamas> *i don't think
[17:29] <padhu> which game is equivalent to pocket tanks?
[17:29] <deskey> any one know how to disable desktop effects in 11.04 beta version?
[17:30] <edbian> bahamas, Then if you really want the newest version go to the mercurial website and install it from there.  This generally is not a good idea because newer versions are buggy, might depend on dependencies that you also have to install from those sites, and has potentially more exploits
[17:30] <arand> Dinliani: You are by default not intended to extract items to those locations, the idea is if you want to edit things in those locations, you'll be able to do so via commands in the terminal anyways. The wiki describes how to enable a root account and you may be able to login as "root" after doing so, and run X as root. Most likely it will cause issues though.
[17:30] <ikonia> deskey: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for 11.04 discussion
[17:31] <bahamas> edbian: ok. i thought there's a different way. i know that debian has something like unstable where you can download a newer version
[17:31] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: No dice.  My nvidia chipset is fried.  both the nouveau driver and the proprietary driver do not work.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> cheshire_fox, which nvidia card ?
[17:31] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: I have no real need for a graphical environment, at least on the computer in question.
[17:31] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: built in, hp laptop, to late to file a claim :(
[17:31] <edbian> bahamas, Ubuntu does not have that. (You're right though, Debian does).  There is a good chance there is a PPA though :)
[17:32] <cheshire_fox> geforce go 7600
[17:32] <Memphizzz> After logging in I see my HDD activity led blinking all the time. How can I figure out which process is causing this activity? gnome-system-monitor only shows CPU activity...
[17:32] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: iotop
[17:33] <bahamas> edbian: where do i look for it?
[17:33] <alsuna> bahamas: there's a banshee-daily PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/banshee-daily
[17:33] <BluesKaj> cheshire_fox, one way to check is with you VGA out if your laptop has one , otherewise being a laptop ...it could be your screen is kaput.
[17:34] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: it says its caused by jb2/sdb9-8. do you know what that is?
[17:34] <bahamas> alsuna: thanks
[17:34] <thauriswulfa> ghar pe
[17:34] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: is the filesystem ( ext4 ) log
[17:34] <edbian> bahamas, for what?
[17:34] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: how can i stop him? or will he stop automatically?
[17:34] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: It's not the screen.  If I run in a purely terminal environ,  I can use the main monitor.
[17:35] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: I know its the chipset, I'm dead sure of it
[17:35] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: so no userspace process. keep watching iotop the process cousing the io should show up as well
[17:35] <alsuna> bahamas: but be careful, that PPA will give you all the daily builds. so you also get non-release-builds
[17:35] <BluesKaj> ok cheshire_fox , gotcha
[17:35] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: it will stop automatically
[17:35] <bahamas> alsuna: hmm, ok. i guess i might as well use this version of mercurial for now.
[17:35] <Memphizzz> erUSUL:  disk write with around 100 K/s is gconfd-2
[17:36] <cheshire_fox> BluesKaj: But I'm just curious if removing nouveau will set me up to run the VESA driver.
[17:36] <stimpie> I just tried installing the natty beta and got an error  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), how to see more details?
[17:37] <egarff> stimpie I solved that by not having it download updates or install the 3rd party during install.
[17:37] <sacarlson> cheshire_fox: you should be able to create a /etc/xorg.conf file to force the use of the vesa driver
[17:37] <alsuna> bahamas: sorry, forget all i said, i mixed up names. that ppa is banshee and not mercurial. sorry.
[17:38] <cheshire_fox> sacarlson: Yeah, but I'm being lazy.
[17:38] <egarff> stimpie: you can then install the updates and 3rd party stuff after it's up.
[17:38] <ohsix> stimpie: the process opens logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade you can check, or watch while it's doing an upgrade
[17:38] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: i thing i figured it out. looks like its compiz.. i might have to start it using --replace
[17:38] <stimpie> egarff: ok thanks lets try
[17:39] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: do not see why compiz would generate much I/O
[17:40] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: after killing it it stopped..
[17:40] <erUSUL> Memphizzz: ok; may be a weird bug
[17:40] <sacarlson> cheshire_fox: here is an example but I also know there is a command line that will create the default xorg.conf that can be modified to look more like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[17:42] <GatunoRox> I need help configuring my USB HDD so it will run on any pc, as my grub doesn't seem to react well when I exchange computers
[17:42] <rcmaehl> What is FVWM-CrystaL?
[17:42] <Memphizzz> erUSUL: confirmed. rebooted. kill compiz. io activity stopped.
[17:42] <bahamas> alsuna: yeah, i was confused about why i couldn't find mercurial in that list, but i thought that you knew something that i didn't :)
[17:42] <erUSUL> rcmaehl: a "theme" for fvwm ( a window manager )
[17:43] <rcmaehl> erUSUL: How is fvwm as fast as lxde?
[17:43] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: you mean make your usb drive boot all computers?  that may not always be posible depending on bios support
[17:43] <erUSUL> rcmaehl: dunno; have not used them
[17:44] <erUSUL> rcmaehl: but lxde is more than just a wm
[17:44] <Memphizzz> is there a way to kill a process by name?
[17:44] <cheshire_fox> sacarlson: What I'll do is just look at the xorg conf when I get home.  I have already removed it, thus allowing me to suddenly have a graphical environment.  It urked me that I had no idea what driver it was running and at the time I had no time to read xorg.conf.  I was just curious if someone knew if removing the driver would force X to run the VESA driver instead.
[17:44] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: sudo killall nameofproc
[17:44] <cheshire_fox> it == nouveau
[17:45] <sacarlson> cheshire_fox: by default there is no xorg.conf file you need to create one if needed
[17:45] <GatunoRox> sacarlson: I'm aware that it depends on the bios, but that's not the case
[17:45] <rcmaehl> You guys have to try FVWM-Crystal. It's like... actually it's not like anything
[17:45] <rcmaehl> It's just unique
[17:45] <GatunoRox> the computers I'm testing are usb bootable
[17:45] <John___> Hey I need help with a broadcom wireless driver
[17:46] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: thanks'!
[17:46] <erUSUL> !broadcom | John___
[17:46] <cheshire_fox> sacarlson: What ever.  I'll figure it out later.  I'm not getting th answer I'm asking for and it's a fairly simple question.
[17:46] <cheshire_fox> oh well
[17:46] <sacarlson> cheshire_fox: I'm not sure of the sequence but nvidia has about 3 or more posible drivers it will try at boot if it can't find one of them
[17:46] <GatunoRox> the problem is, whenever I exchange PC's, device mapping changes and Grub will not load propperly, rendering grub rescue
[17:47] <njin> hello, looking at Dmesg does [ 17.240015] mean 17 seconds and... or what?
[17:47] <erUSUL> njin: probably
[17:48] <njin> erUSUL: thanks
[17:48] <aussa> hi, here is what i want, i want to have install in my laptop ubuntu only, and want to have windows in a virtual machine, my question is, can in install video and audio drivers in a virtual machine?
[17:49] <mindware> njin:  exactly
[17:49] <John___> That didnt help. I need b43 so that i can use monitor mode
[17:49] <Maimster> How's everyone doing?
[17:49] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: I have noticed that on some system a usb disk will be seen as sda on one system and sdb on another, I guess  you can create two or more grub entry that will boot manualy when needed if it changes
[17:49] <erUSUL> aussa: yes; but those drivers would be for the hardware the virtual machine emulates not the real hardware you have
[17:49] <mindware> aussa : your virtual machine has standard stuff..so the drivers are already in windows..
[17:50] <aussa> ok, so I can't take advantage of my video card in the virtual machine?
[17:50] <howl_> when you install it, it should be ready, since they devices on the virtual machine are not hardware by default
[17:50] <erUSUL> aussa: gaming in a virtual machine a no go afaik
[17:50] <mindware> any help on installing a toolchain for ARM copiling on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[17:51] <sacarlson> aussa: I've never been able to but there might be a way, I never looked into it
[17:51] <trichard> hey is there a way to import itunes podcasts in banshee?
[17:51] <ikonia> mindware: whats the issue ?
[17:51] <erUSUL> !info scratchbox2
[17:52] <mindware> ikonia: I want to build some stuff for an ARM  architecture..
[17:52] <aussa> what do I need to install windows in a virtual machine?
[17:52] <sacarlson> aussa: a iso or cd to install windows
[17:52] <milamber> mindware: http://hri.sourceforge.net/tools/arm-elf-gcc.html
[17:52] <GatunoRox> sacarlson: They're identified using UUIDs, so it doesn't seem the problem, it seem as it always search for (hd0,0) instead, which on other computers is seen as (fd0,0) or (hd1,0)
[17:52] <mindware> aussa Try VirtualBox :)
[17:52] <ikonia> mindware: ok, so what's the problem
[17:53] <erUSUL> mindware: https://balau82.wordpress.com/2010/12/05/using-ubuntu-arm-cross-compiler-for-bare-metal-programming/
[17:53] <aussa> ok, and if windows came pre installed in my laptop...?
[17:53] <GatunoRox> rendering grub stage2 unreachable
[17:54] <mindware> ikonia: sorry for not mentioning in last post. Apparently , I could not find in the repos the package of symlinks needed for a arm crosscompilation....
[17:54] <ikonia> mindware: you could look at the links erUSUL gave you, or set it up yourself
[17:54] <mindware> Thank you very much! It's a good starting point for me :)
[17:54] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: well then create a grub entry for each of those posible (fd0,0) (hd1,0) ... with all those hopfully a limited number of posiblilities
[17:55] <Emerix> Anyone free to answer a networking question?
[17:55] <GatunoRox> sacarlson: how can I do thar?
[17:55] <ikonia> Emerix: you have to ask it for people to respond
[17:55] <erUSUL> !anyone | Emerix
[17:56] <sacarlson> Emerix: with 1579 people to see there is always a good posibility someone might know
[17:56] <Maimster> True.
[17:56] <bob__119> 1583
[17:56] <Emerix> I just bought a eee laptop, installed ubuntu on it, and my wireless nor ethernet works. Whenever I plug in the ethernet, it will work for two seconds, then proceed to say I'm disconnected.
[17:57] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: you can create custom menu entries you can add I'm not sure about your the location of the line you want
[17:58] <Guest97127> I want to implement a simulation of  car parking system using atmega8 microcontroller..Any one please help me with the related discussions
[17:58] <rcmaehl> HOLY !@#$ FVWM is only using less than 128MB of RAM, that like blows lxdm out of the water
[17:58] <ikonia> rcmaehl: control the language
[17:58] <the_godf1ther> жопа
[17:58] <ikonia> rcmaehl: if you have to star out a word, don't use it
[17:59] <xiamx> what desktop search / text indexer tool can I use on ubuntu?
[17:59] <Guest97127> I want to implement a simulation of  car parking system using atmega8 microcontroller..Any one please help me with the related discussions
[17:59] <Belial`> haha
[17:59] <Belial`> that's pretty funny.
[17:59] <ikonia> Guest97127: do you want to do this on ubuntu ?
[17:59] <rcmaehl> Well I self filter my language by not filtering my language and setting up my autoreplace to filter it for me
[17:59] <ikonia> Belial`: ?
[17:59] <the_godf1ther> fuck
[17:59] <the_godf1ther> exit
[18:00] <Guest97127> please help me ...
[18:00] <home23> no help me
[18:00] <ikonia> rcmaehl: I'll tell you as you didn't get the reqeust, control your language
[18:00] <edbian> Guest97127, Just state your problem and people will help you if they can.
[18:00] <ikonia> Guest97127: do you want to use this device on ubuntu ?
[18:00] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: this may not be the best example but all I could find in short notice http://zorin-os.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/3284895-creating-custom-menu-entry-in-grub-2-boot-loader
[18:00] <edbian> Guest97127, Oh, I see your questions up there.   That has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[18:01] <rcmaehl> ok
[18:01] <Belial`> now you're back talking!
[18:01] <Belial`> don't sass either
[18:01] <ikonia> Belial`: do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[18:01] <Belial`> no
[18:02] <ikonia> Belial`: then please don't make random comments to provoke a situation
[18:02] <Belial`> yes sir
[18:02] <ikonia> thanks
[18:02] <Belial`> no problem, sir
[18:02] <anthony_> anyone have any luck getting jffnms working?  after setup I just get forwarded to http://jffnms/jffnms/view_performance.php (virtual host set up by me) which contains the text "Error: No Interface Graphs were returned."  I want to use it to monitor my consumer grade router traffic using snmp
[18:02] <Belial`> won't happen again
[18:02] <ikonia> Belial`: not a problem
[18:03] <MuH4hA> Guest97127: Maybe ask in #avr ?
[18:04] <[eXception]> hi
[18:05] <[eXception]> I have a problem with my W-Lan. From time to time it sleeps away... I have to restart the interface or wait a long long time until I can continue surfing in internet....
[18:05] <anthony_> anyone have any luck getting jffnms working?  after setup I just get forwarded to http://jffnms/jffnms/view_performance.php (virtual host set up by me) which contains the text "Error: No Interface Graphs were returned."  I want to use it to monitor my consumer grade router traffic using snmp
[18:05] <GatunoRox> sacarlson: the problem is not stage2 itself, but the way grub searches for it
[18:05] <perlmonkey> whats the deal with openshot 1.2.2.. i upgraded and its TOTALLY messed up..all kinds of weird stuff
[18:05] <sacarlson> anthony_  I'm not sure what results your looking for but I use cacti to monitor trafic from snmp of my routers
[18:06] <GatunoRox> the loader on the MBR points to stage 2 on (hd0,0)
[18:06] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: stage2?  must run grub legacy?  you running grub2?
[18:06] <GatunoRox> grub2
[18:06] <cnphilison> african around
[18:06] <bunower> hello, i have Macbook, i had MacOS and Ubuntu same time, then i needed Windows for University, and i installed Windows in a partition, but after that i could not boot ubuntu, if i repair grub2 i cannot boot windows
[18:07] <rcmaehl> bunower: sudo update-grub2
[18:07] <cnphilison> looking for someone to chat
[18:07] <rcmaehl> cnphilison: Question?
[18:07] <Emerix> My network card is 'unclaimed', how would I go about installing the driver without an internet connection?
[18:07] <ikonia> cnphilison: try #defocus for chat
[18:07] <rcmaehl> Emerix: modprobe
[18:07] <GatunoRox> whenever I try booting on another PC, (hd0,0) is another HD, rendering grub unable to find stage2
[18:07] <perlmonkey> bugs galore in openshot 1.2.2 :(
[18:07] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: not sure but did you see the line set root='(hd0,1)'  maybe have a few menu with different root =
[18:08] <Guest72561> Just wondering what you all thought of my recent partition setup.... /dev/sda is partitioned to 1 ext4 250G, this is my ubuntu 10.10 install and "working drive". /dev/sdb is 1 ext4 that is nearly 1tb, this is my "data" drive. /dev/sdc has a 20gb swap partition, along with roughly a 120gb "backup" drive. I figured putting the swap on a different disk than my boot drive would perhaps increase performance when doing things with video ed
[18:08] <sacarlson> GatunoRox: then if it fails on the default then try the others that might work
[18:08] <GatunoRox> that's inside grub.cfg, right?
[18:08] <mehdi> hey guys how can i install Gnome 3?
[18:08] <snakeofchrist> i love me some chitlins
[18:08] <rcmaehl> mehdi: sudo apt-get install gnome3
[18:09] <ikonia> Guest72561: won't make a noticable difference
[18:09] <GatunoRox> my proble is that grub stops before showing stage2 with the menu entries of grub.cfg
[18:09] <anthony_> sacarlson, thanks mate will give that a try instead.  all I want is to find out why my parent's internet is so damn slow
[18:09] <ikonia> mehdi: where are no official gnome 3 packages
[18:09] <[eXception]> can anyone help me?
[18:09] <rcmaehl> mehdi: sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[18:09] <Guest72561> ikonia: Oh...ok. Well this is just the first time I've had 3 sata drives so I figured I'd make it interesting.....;)
[18:09] <rcmaehl> ikonia: yes there is
[18:09] <rcmaehl> ikonia: gnome3-session
[18:09] <ikonia> rcmaehl: if you look, it's not a full gnome 3 setup
[18:09] <rcmaehl> only gnome3 pacakge out
[18:09] <Psyclone> my external hard drive keeps mounting under different name, is there a way that i can get it to mount under the same name every time
[18:10] <ikonia> the only full gnome 3 setup is in a ppa
[18:10] <bob__119> isn't gnome 3 what comes with the natty beta release?
[18:10] <rcmaehl> ikonia: ppa please?
[18:10] <syn-ack> mehdi, Also, keep in mind that if you install Gnome 3 you WILL break Unity.
[18:10] <syn-ack> bob__119, No.
[18:10] <ikonia> rcmaehl: personal package archive
[18:10] <sacarlson> anthony_: to find out why a net is slow it's best to check dns lookup first then bandwidth
[18:10] <Guest72561> So, gnome 3, is it stable enough for a work environment? I know when kde4 came out it was quite buggy.
[18:10] <UncombedCoconut> Hm. The Ubuntu UX in case of a disk failure is painful and cryptic. Yet this experience shouldn't be that pleasant anyway. Is it even worth filing a bug / brainstorm?
[18:10] <rcmaehl> ikonia: no the ppa: so I can add it
[18:11] <rcmaehl> plz
[18:11] <anthony_> sacarlson, dns is fine.  using opendns
[18:11] <snakeofchrist> kde4 still is quite buggy
[18:11] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: I think you have too much swap space. the recommendations are usually a 2:1 RAM to swap ration on desktop and 1:1 when dealing with systems that have 4 GB or morre of RAM
[18:11] <bob__119> syn-ack: thanks, I do not like the one with 11.04 beta
[18:11] <mehdi> @<syn-ack>y?
[18:11] <sacarlson> anthony_: there is also some people that have problems with MTU  settings if made a bit smaller like 1400 can improve things in rare cases
[18:11] <syn-ack> mehdi, Come again?
[18:11] <mehdi> @<rcmaehl>and how can i run it in gnome 3 mod?
[18:12] <Guest72561> benzaldehyde: Well I have 16g of ram....ok maybe not. But I do plan on 16g in my upcoming build. So should I reduce the swap to about 4096MB?
[18:12] <anthony_> sacarlson, yeah not tried that.  couldn't see how to do it easily with their router
[18:12] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: sorry i meant 1:1 when dealing with servers but that last bit about the >  4 GB applies to both server and desktop
[18:12] <sacarlson> anthony_: opendns is sometimes a solution but also sometimes a problem, only way to tell it to test
[18:12] <Guest72561> benzaldehyde: I have 4 GB of ram.
[18:12] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: at the mostt you ought to have 4 GB of swap for a server setup IMO
[18:12] <rcmaehl> mehdi: open terminal and run gnome3-session
[18:13] <Guest72561> snakeofchrist: But what about gnome3? Is it pretty good performance wise?
[18:13] <mehdi> ok
[18:13] <anthony_> sacarlson, you know any good alternatives to opendns?
[18:13] <Guest72561> benzaldehyde: Wel this is a workstation
[18:13] <snakeofchrist> i couldn't tell you that
[18:13] <sacarlson> anthony_: bind9
[18:13] <syn-ack> Guest72561, It's actually quite a bit slower than Unity
[18:13] <snakeofchrist> ah shit
[18:13] <snakeofchrist> then it
[18:13] <snakeofchrist> then it's real slow
[18:13] <Guest72561> syn-ack: Unity....is that the thing integrated in 11.04?
[18:13] <Abhijit> hi
[18:13] <syn-ack> yes
[18:14] <Guest72561> syn-ack: So you are suggesting that I avoid gnome3 if I am soley looking for something with good performance?
[18:14] <syn-ack> yes
[18:14] <sacarlson> anthony_: also setup of dhcp so that they have fallback on failure of a dns can at least get things working even if slow
[18:14] <syn-ack> until it's stable, at least.
[18:14] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: i only do fluxbox personally
[18:15] <snakeofchrist> well you can call me diiirrrttyyy and then lift up your skirt
[18:15] <umago> hey u guys im having this problem http://pastebin.com/DLFKmGQq when trying to get some informations from udisks-daemon
[18:15] <sacarlson> anthony_: tools to test dns would be dig and ping
[18:15] <mehdi> hey guys i come with Gnome 3 and sb mentioned that i break unity wat is it dat mean literally?
[18:15] <umago> i already googled, and compared the /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.UDisks.service and /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.UDisks.conf with others
[18:16] <umago> and it seems to be fine... i can pastebin em if needed
[18:16] <umago> someone have any idea whats going on?
[18:16] <umago> im just trying run this simple example on a ubutntu 10.10 machine
[18:16] <umago> its a simple example... http://pastebin.com/Sa6kuGWA
[18:16] <syn-ack> mehdi, It means that if you install Gnome3, you will break Unity.
[18:16] <anthony_> sacarlson, I'm pretty sure dns is fine
[18:16] <Belial`> if you're going to install gnome 3
[18:16] <anthony_> they live in the country
[18:16] <Belial`> use a different installation
[18:16] <mehdi> i dont get it wat it means actually?
[18:17] <timroes> hei is there any shortcut to open the network manager menu (that normally shows when you click on the icon in the systray) (Ubuntu 10.10)?
[18:17] <benzaldehyde> Guest72561: a workstation i would only go 2 GB
[18:17] <sacarlson> anthony_: well maybe it's just the ISP or just the site they are looking at,  not all sites are fast
[18:17] <anthony_> sacarlson, > 2.5 km from exchange, which is crap in itself, but occasioanly the internet is so slow it's un usable
[18:17] <syn-ack> mehdi, It means that you'll be upgrading libs upon which unity is dependent, and therefore it will break unity
[18:17] <anthony_> sacarlson, true, true
[18:17] <Kawohi> How do I add the Global Menu to Ubuntu?
[18:17] <Guest72561> So I tried 11.04 last night, 64bit, and it wouldn't boot and didn't even install correctly. My only question is to others is how it is looking performance wise. Is it something I should get excited about the release, or is it something I should wait a few months after the release to allow it to become better performance wise?
[18:17] <anthony_> I keep telling them to change
[18:17] <umago> nobody has any idea?
[18:18] <s5fs> Is 11.04 stable enough for a production workstation?
[18:18] <Abhijit> s5fs, np
[18:18] <Abhijit> no
[18:18] <anthony_> sacarlson, they're also adamant that when the neighbours are in across the river, the speed goes down.  this doesn't sound likely to me but I just don't know
[18:18] <s5fs> Abhijit: Cool, thanks!
[18:18] <wrecked> depends on what you consider "stable enough" i think :P
[18:18] <mehdi> i dont get it sync
[18:19] <syn-ack> s5fs, I think it is, for the most part
[18:19] <sacarlson> anthony_: I run an ISP and I get complaints all the time, but when I go to check them I find 75% of the time it's just the site they looked at and only at certain times of day
[18:19] <s5fs> syn-ack: Define "for the most part", ie, where would I feel the most pain?
[18:19] <wrecked> i would agree with syn... ive been using it for about a week now, and most issues are very minor.. and improvements every day
[18:19] <Abhijit> !11.04
[18:19] <Kawohi> how to install? http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/downloads/list
[18:20] <snakeofchrist> Kawohi, google "gnome global menu ppa" find the search result to webupd8
[18:20] <snakeofchrist> install with their ppa
[18:20] <sacarlson> anthony_: oh or they run windows and have there virus update use all the bandwidth
[18:20] <Dinliani> re guys
[18:20] <snakeofchrist> then right click the gnome panel and add the global menu to it
[18:20] <snakeofchrist> then log in/out of x
[18:20] <Dinliani> i just generate a class diagram into .cld format
[18:20] <Dinliani> how to convert it into jpg?
[18:21] <syn-ack> s5fs, No where, really. it's all minor things at this time
[18:21] <anthony_> sacarlson, that's what I'm trying to find out!
[18:21] <anthony_> sacarlson, I don't think there's any problem there, but until I can see the router traffic I don't know
[18:21] <Memphizzz> how can i see which partitions grub is currently active if i have more than 1 linux distro installed?
[18:21] <wrecked> s5fs: i find a lot of minor graphics glitchs/annoyances mostly.. nothing showstopping
[18:22] <hiexpo> Dinliani, did you try covert command
[18:22] <anthony_> sacarlson, I just want to rule that out before I get in touch with the ISP
[18:22] <sacarlson> anthony_: for that you need to route through your linux and see the trafic with wireshark to get an idea what the trafic is like trogins virus....
[18:22] <MN--> hello
[18:22] <anthony_> sacarlson, could I not use cacti for this?
[18:22] <sacarlson> anthony_: no it won't detect the type of trafic only how much at what time
[18:22] <timroes> hei is there any shortcut to open the network manager menu (that normally shows when you click on the icon in the systray) (Ubuntu 10.10)?
[18:22] <MN--> is this the right channel on how to install ubujtu?
[18:22] <MN--> *ubuntu
[18:23] <Abhijit> MN--, yes
[18:23] <s5fs> Good to know. I will probably hold off a bit until after the release date, see how things shake out. I'm still a bit weirded by Unity, I played with gnome-shell but that's it so far.
[18:23] <ikonia> !install | MN--
[18:23] <anthony_> sacarlson, well that'd do.  I know what's supposed to be happening on each machine, then I can compare it with what cacti shows up
[18:23] <joujou> hi
[18:23] <Memphizzz> how can i see which partitions grub is currently active if i have more than 1 linux distro installed?
[18:24] <Kawohi> snakeofchrist, what do I out in user add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[18:24] <Kawohi> put*
[18:25] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: at boot you can hold shift and see the menu of what grub has detected as bootable since last update
[18:25] <snakeofchrist> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name then sudo apt-get update && apt-get install globalmenu
[18:26] <cyphase> this is the second time recently i've woken up to find myself logged out..
[18:26] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: i have the menu with multiple linux distros i can choose from. i just want to know which distros grub is the one that i see
[18:27] <MN--> okay im just wondering can i install ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition on a dell latitude c640
[18:27] <atlef> MN--: should be no problem
[18:28] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: the destro you see when grub boots as default?  I don't understand that
[18:28] <MN--> thank you :) 20gb isnt really enough is it
[18:28] <GOMI> anybody knows how to fix login problem , i get kicked out every time while working ?
[18:28] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: grub is not a destro it can boot many different destro
[18:28] <GOMI> kicked out to login screen SO i need to login again..
[18:28] <frybye> re: is there some way I can avoid the whole "ownership" question when i want to share stuff via my ftp server with a friend.. some way to have the ownsership automatically opend up for everyone or for this ftpuser when I put this stuff in his ftp home directory..?
[18:28] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: i installed multiple linux distros. each of the installed grub. i dont know which one ive installed least and i want to figure out which ones grub is the active one
[18:29] <atlef> MN--: it depends on your needs
[18:29] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: they are all active that are on the list,  one will be the default
[18:29] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: but which ones /boot/grub/custom_menu.cfg is used?
[18:29] <GOMI> back again
[18:30] <MN--> okay thank you bye
[18:30] <sacarlson> Memphizzz: you want to make a custom grub entry?  those will be added to the grub menu if added
[18:30] <bullgard4> What boot messages come into /var/log/boot.log and what boot messages do not?
[18:31] <Dinliani> gnome paint
[18:31] <Dinliani> = mega shit
[18:31] <IdleOne> !language | Dinliani
[18:31] <mrstocks> hey i would like to divert the sound into a application where i can up the bass or something ... sort of a brige anyone know?
[18:31] <Memphizzz> sacarlson: yes i know. but i created custom entries in at least 2 distros.. know i dont know which one is being used.
[18:31] <mrstocks> i just want to the control my sound!
[18:32] <Vimk> Not getting any sound in any game or emulator on 10.10, anyone have an idea?
[18:32] <frybye> bullgard4: hi again - any tips with this ownship re ftp stuff?
[18:32] <coe> hai all....
[18:32] <coe> am back for one question, am need used my Desktop effect, and am have used lenovo G460, anybadoy can help me.!
[18:32] <bullgard4> frybye: I forgot your exact question. Please repeat it.
[18:33] <os4> hi i want to install the package of backtrack on ubuntu 10.10??
[18:33] <coe> ikonia, hai... are you still busy?
[18:33] <Oatmeal> Can anyone help me with a problem I have with a new SATA hard drive, or bios setting?
[18:33] <coe> os4, backtrack package like what ?
[18:34] <frybye> bullgard4: re: is there some way I can avoid the whole "ownership" question when i want to share stuff via my ftp server with a friend.. some way to have the ownsership automatically opend up for everyone or for this ftpuser when I put this stuff in his ftp home directory..?
[18:34] <unomystEz> anyone know if the nouveau driver is statically linked in the kernel for 10.10?
[18:34] <unomystEz> I have a quadro card and it freezes upon bootup
[18:34] <unomystEz> not sure how to disable it
[18:34] <os4> bruteforce cisco
[18:34] <os4> ......
[18:34] <bullgard4> os4: There is no "backtrack" package in Ubuntu 10.10.
[18:34] <Kawohi> Okay after that, what next? https://launchpad.net/~globalmenu-team/+archive/ppa
[18:35] <superkiwi> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu alongside a existing windows 7 installation. The problem is that whenever I boot into Ubuntu, my network adapter seems to turn off. I need to take the power cable out and wait a few seconds, and then I can boot into windows again with network on. If I don't do this, networking suddenly does not work in Windows either. Do you know if Windows is disabling the network adapter when turning off, or is Ubuntu do
[18:35] <superkiwi> something with my network adapter? THe ethernet adapter is on the motherboard.
[18:35] <hiexpo> !backtrack | os4
[18:35] <nyuszika7h> Hi! I've installed apache2, php5 and mysql-server, now where can I place my .php files?
[18:35] <Oatmeal> Can anyone help me with a problem I have with a new SATA hard drive, or bios setting?
[18:36] <as2000> @superwiki - the problem is that windows thingy!
[18:36] <erUSUL> !anyone | Oatmeal
[18:36] <coe> nyuszika7h, /var/www
[18:36] <superkiwi> as2000: Oh, the only solution is to get ridd of it? :X
[18:36] <Kawohi> aircrack-ng :)
[18:36] <os4> thank you ubottu
[18:36] <nyuszika7h> coe: thanks
[18:36] <nyuszika7h> os4: ubottu is a bot >_>
[18:36] <as2000> superwiki: :D
[18:36] <oCean> nyuszika7h: usually /var/www, see /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default for your webroot
[18:36] <coe> nyuszika7h, welcome...
[18:37] <os4> :)
[18:37] <coe> os4, am have sand pm for you ) check and test it, that be great. and dont say backtrack on this chanel oke
[18:38] <os4> why
[18:38] <os4> ??
[18:38] <Oatmeal> I installed a new hard drive yesterday after my old one crashed. The old  one was SATA and so i this new one, however the power connector is different. Anyways, this new one boots up REALLY slow, and after it gets to the OS starting animation, it reboots. Help please?
[18:38] <coe> os4, this is ubuntu chanell not backtrack channel
[18:38] <os4> ah ok !?
[18:38] <bullgard4> frybye: I doubt that you shluld disregard the "ownership" question if you want to share stuff on your FTP server with a friend. It is very likely that evil users will be able to abuse your computer for malicious purposes.
[18:38] <spid3rnet> help how to get python 2.6
[18:39] <coe> os4, if you need to be include the backtrack packed you need try my link that is good ide just that, or you banned on this channel :)
[18:39] <sss314> Can someone please explain what's the difference between administor account and normal account, if I still need to use a password to perform system task even when I am logged in as administor, and I can also perform system tasks using a password when I'm logged in as normal user?! thanks
[18:39] <bullgard4> s/shluld/should/
[18:39] <os4> send the link
[18:39] <spid3rnet> i have 2.5 but now i need 2.6 how to update
[18:39] <coe> and,... all, am need fix my vga am used lenovo G460 and body can  help
[18:39] <bito> t
[18:39] <nyuszika7h> coe: And how can I delete files in it? 'Move to Trash' is grayed out, probably because it needs root rights.
[18:39] <Pici> coe, os4: #backtrack-linux is their channel, please use that instead of here.
[18:40] <coe> Pici,  oke brotha.. am understand
[18:40] <os4> :):):):)
[18:40] <spid3rnet> coe
[18:40] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: sudo apt-get install python # it will update Python
[18:40] <Kawohi> help! apt-get update... Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[18:40] <Kawohi>  'Ubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007)'
[18:40] <Kawohi> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[18:40] <coe> nyuszika7h, sudo rm -r /var/www/ <file>
[18:40] <coe> spid3rnet, yes
[18:40] <Kawohi> the disc is in it tho
[18:40] <spid3rnet> i m user of backtrack to
[18:40] <nyuszika7h> coe: thanks, couldn't find the command -- it's "del" or "delete" on Windows
[18:40] <Pici> spid3rnet: We do not support backtrack here. Please use their channel for support: #backtrack-linux
[18:40] <bullgard4> frybye: I would suggest that you and your friend install the (proprietary but free) program package "Team Viewer" on your computer and his computer.
[18:41] <spid3rnet> ok i got that
[18:41] <coe> nyuszika7h, what you mean, are you want to del /var/www ?
[18:41] <coe> nyuszika7h, or alse
[18:41] <frybye> bullgard4: he is running win7 - will that work..?
[18:42] <bullgard4> frybye: Yes.
[18:42] <leverpostej_> So: Renoise + Ubuntu. How?
[18:42] <frybye> great stuff - thaks a 10^6
[18:43] <nyuszika7h> coe: No, I wanted to delete index.html in it. Now, how do I save files in it? Do I need to run 'sudo gedit' every time? :/
[18:43] <GOMI> how to fix LOGIN guys
[18:43] <bcbc2> Kawohi: in update manager, click on settings and uncheck the box next to the cdrom (bottom of the Ubuntu software tab)
[18:43] <Oatmeal> I installed a new hard drive yesterday after my old one crashed. The old  one was SATA and so i this new one, however the power connector is different. Anyways, this new one boots up REALLY slow, and after it gets to the OS starting animation, it reboots. The computer wouldn't even recognize the hard drive when trying to install Ubuntu or Windows 7 from it, so I installed Windows 7 connecting it to another computer. The hdd shows up in
[18:43] <GOMI> it keeps re-LOGIN my system
[18:44] <AaeRohn> oi, I needs help installing a driver >.>
[18:44] <spid3rnet> nyuszika7h not working
[18:45] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: try 'sudo apt-get update python'
[18:45] <coe> nyuszika7h, you can used gui for edit index.html on you /var/www/index.html
[18:45] <coe> nyuszika7h, used sudo nautilus /var/www/
[18:46] <coe> nyuszika7h, and gui is open you can edti index.html with bluefish
[18:46] <rafii> Hey! Whats wrong with oracle VirtualBox 4.0.4 on ubuntu 10.10? When I go to any VM propeties in virtualbox, my X.org server was crashed.. all is up-to-date, I reinstall virtualbox with and wihout deleting config files, and nothing.. It's bug in virtualbox or X.org?
[18:46] <spid3rnet> nyuszika7h not working too
[18:46] <mehdi> hey guys is it possible to have diffrent wllpaper in diffrent workspaces?
[18:46] <nyuszika7h> coe: thx, btw I'm using gedit not bluefish
[18:46] <oCean> coe: nyuszika7h you have to use gksudo, not sudo when using graphical applications
[18:47] <Kawohi> bcbc2, I don't see checkbox or a CDrom // on 10.10
[18:47] <lolmatic> hi
[18:47] <AaeRohn> I have an Adobe Vistablet, and I need to install a driver for it, but I don't know how to install a non-standard driver, much less which one to get
[18:47] <lolmatic> i just installed and configured squid but there is no init script :(
[18:47] <coe> oCean, mean ?
[18:47] <spid3rnet> no help plzzzz
[18:48] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: sudo apt-get remove python && sudo apt-get install python
[18:48] <oCean> spid3rnet: what version are you using
[18:48] <bcbc2> Kawohi: Update Manager, Settings, click on 'Ubuntu software' tab, look on the bottom. What do you see?
[18:48] <oCean> coe: exactly what is says. gksudo for graphical applications
[18:48] <nyuszika7h> oCean: 19:38 < spid3rnet> i have 2.5 but now i need 2.6 how to update
[18:48] <oCean> nyuszika7h: what ubuntu version
[18:48] <milamber> !gksu | coe, nyuszika7h
[18:48] <spid3rnet> 2.5
[18:49] <spid3rnet> oCean
[18:49] <oCean> spid3rnet: what ubuntu version ubuntu, not python
[18:49] <moes> mehdi, Are you running compiz
[18:49] <mehdi> yea
[18:50] <moes> mehdi, Just a second I will give you a workaround url
[18:50] <spid3rnet> 10.08
[18:50] <mehdi> ok
[18:50] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: o_O 10.08?
[18:50] <coe> milamber oCean how to edit /var/www/index.html (gksudo gedit /var/www/index.html) and allways do gksudo gedit /var/www/index.html ?
[18:50] <oCean> spid3rnet: 8.10 ?
[18:50] <spid3rnet> mehdi wher are u from
[18:50] <coe> that you mean
[18:50] <spid3rnet> ya loooool
[18:50] <coe> oCean, that so hard for edit
[18:50] <Kawohi> bcbc2, nvm. did it. but can't. getting this error message: ----- E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:50] <Kawohi> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[18:51] <spid3rnet> ;
[18:51] <spid3rnet> hh
[18:51] <oCean> coe: I don't understand you
[18:51] <bcbc2> Kawohi: do you have synaptic or software centre open? close them first
[18:51] <milamber> coe: you are using bluefish right?
[18:51] <coe> Kawohi, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[18:51] <nyuszika7h> oCean: sudoed gedit looks different than the normal
[18:51] <oCean> spid3rnet: 8.10 is no longer supported. you have to upgrade first
[18:51] <oCean> !8.10 | spid3rnet
[18:51] <mehdi> @<spid3rnet>wat for? im from iran
[18:51] <coe> oh no milamber
[18:51] <spid3rnet> nyuszika7h i guess u way is working
[18:51] <AaeRohn> Anybody? I have an Adobe Vistablet, and I need to install a driver for it, but I don't know how to install a non-standard driver
[18:52] <oCean> nyuszika7h: I really don't know what you are trying to do?
[18:52] <telemundo> ikonia rhymes with stankonia
[18:52] <nyuszika7h> oCean: save a file to /var/www/ from gedit
[18:52] <spid3rnet> i m from morrokko are muslm
[18:53] <milamber> coe: gksudo gedit <filename> is what you are looking for then
[18:53] <oCean> nyuszika7h: well, you can edit it somewhere else, then move it. Or you could also add your account to the www-data group, which is owner of all files
[18:53] <moes> mehdi, http://ubuntuguide.net/different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu
[18:53] <nyuszika7h> oCean: And how do I add it?
[18:53] <oCean> nyuszika7h: however, milamber's sugestion should work fine
[18:53] <mehdi> tanx moes
[18:53] <spid3rnet> mehdi are u muslim just because its a arbice name
[18:53] <oCean> spid3rnet: please stay on topic
[18:53] <nyuszika7h> milamber: I did that...
[18:53] <coe> milamber, that same like sudo gedit <filename>
[18:53] <AnubArack> My netbook can't enter suspend or hibernate. It says I don't have enough swap, but I do have 130% the ram worth of swap.
[18:53] <moes> mehdi, yw
[18:53] <oCean> coe: no. use gksudo, not sudo
[18:54] <spid3rnet> what waht rong
[18:54] <coe> oCean, what dedifrend sudo and gksudo for edit file
[18:54] <mehdi> @<spid3rnet>i use 2 be
[18:54] <h1ll37> on ubuntu 10.10 a logitech wireless mouse quits workign after about 10 minutes of working perfectly. If i plug in another mouse it works for another 10 mins then quits working also.
[18:54] <spid3rnet> nyuszika7h tnks
[18:54] <milamber> !gksu | coe
[18:54] <oCean> coe: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[18:55] <Kawohi> coe Thanks.
[18:55] <as2000> anyone know why my nvidia 7200 will not run 3d unity on natty?
[18:56] <atlef> |natty | as2000
[18:56] <erUSUL> as2000: ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:56] <coe> oke oke.... milamber oCean for command that no happend for me... nano /var/www/index.html or sudo geidt /var/www/index.html or gksudo /var/www/index.html is same
[18:56] <ak331> I have been trying to install ie4linux either using wine or playon linux and it istall with playonlinux but not in wine any help appreciated?
[18:56] <coe> Kawohi, welcome
[18:56] <Kawohi> wget is awesome. (new to ubuntu)
[18:56] <as2000> ah thx
[18:56] <telemundo> tell them unity blows while you're in there
[18:56] <coe> spid3rnet, what ..!
[18:56] <AaeRohn> am I even saying anything? or is this stuff invisible? >.>
[18:56] <h1ll37> anyone know anything about "the mice from hell" lol
[18:56] <Pici> telemundo: Do you have a support question?
[18:57] <Pici> !patience | AaeRohn
[18:57] <milamber> coe: sudo nano /var/www/index.html is fine. gksudo gedit /var/www/index.html is also fine.
[18:57] <moes> which extension with uname to use to get version of linux on computer
[18:57] <AaeRohn> I tried searching the databases, nothing helps...
[18:57] <erUSUL> moes: uname -r ?
[18:57] <AaeRohn> well, with what I've found anyway
[18:58]  * h1ll37 cries.
[18:58] <coe> milamber, how with sudo gedit /var/www/index.html is also fine ?
[18:58] <nyuszika7h> milamber: BUT sudoed gedit doesn't use the normal gedit's options
[18:58] <rumpe1> moes, lsb_release -r
[18:58] <coe> milamber, am have used sudo gedit /var/www/index.html for edit file on /var/www/ that still fine
[18:58] <spid3rnet> nooooooooooo
[18:58] <rumpe1> moes, ah... you meant the kernel...
[18:58] <coe> what the problem on that command
[18:58] <oCean> coe: read the link we send you
[18:58] <AnubArack> My netbook can't enter suspend or hibernate. It says I don't have enough swap, but I do have 130% the ram worth of swap.
[18:58] <oCean> coe: it *can* cause problems, since "sudo" does not set the correct environment
[18:58] <rumpe1> coe, and a bit dangerous...
[18:58] <h1ll37> Take that as a no
[18:59] <nyuszika7h> spid3rnet: ?
[18:59] <GOMI> OMG
[18:59] <GOMI> i did something stupid
[18:59] <erUSUL> AnubArack: do "free -m" paste the output in a pastebin
[18:59] <spid3rnet> ihave remove python to install a n new version now i cant install no version eroor now all my code and other tool all goon
[18:59] <erUSUL> !paste
[18:59] <oCean> spid3rnet: yes, removing python can do that
[18:59] <GOMI> i used a command , AND NOW I SEE    XUBUNTU  on my system ?!?!?!?
[18:59] <bullgard4> What is the name of the DEB program package of the X11 server?
[19:00] <rumpe1> GOMI, whats the problem?
[19:00] <nyuszika7h> GOMI: probably you used 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[19:00] <coe> oCean, what link
[19:00] <GOMI> yes nyuszika
[19:00] <GOMI> what did i do ?!?!
[19:00] <moes> rumpe1, no I actually want to know if this is lucid maverick etc
[19:00] <coe> am used /clear on my xchat
[19:00] <oCean> coe: last time: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[19:00] <nyuszika7h> GOMI: nothing, you just installed another environment
[19:00] <erUSUL> GOMI: so what is so surprising about the result?
[19:00] <rumpe1> moes, then lsb_release -a
[19:00] <milamber> !info x11-common
[19:00] <nyuszika7h> GOMI: if you want to remove it, sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[19:01] <spid3rnet> i have use this but   sudo apt-get remove paython
[19:01] <GOMI> well i had login problems and i found this command
[19:01] <s5fs> spid3rnet: Try installing python from source, it's not hard.
[19:01] <rumpe1> moes, or cat /etc/issue
[19:01] <coe> oCean, oh that link, am willopen it. but my vga not good, still bad, am used lenovo g460 can help for good ide for fixed it
[19:01] <lindsaymobil22> nyuszika7h, Removing xubuntu-desktop is just removing a meta-package
[19:01] <GOMI> is it different to what i used to had ??
[19:01] <AnubArack> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/591817/
[19:01] <lindsaymobil22> nyuszika7h, Not the desktop
[19:01] <spid3rnet> but now when i type apt-get install python no downlaod
[19:01] <GOMI> is it bad ?
[19:01] <oCean> spid3rnet: your ubuntu version has run out of support. You have to upgrade anyway. Since you have removed python, you might as well do a reinstall
[19:02] <ak331> help with installing ie4linux?
[19:02] <rumpe1> GOMI, if you just installed it in addition to the other desktop-environments, you can simply choose in login-screen which one you want to use
[19:02] <spid3rnet> but the 8.10 version is the best
[19:02] <GOMI> hmmm
[19:02] <nyuszika7h> lol
[19:02] <h1ll37> Yeah whatever I'll just go install mint. If the problem continues they'll at least acknowledge me i think
[19:02] <moes> rumpe1, Thanks cat /etc/issue worked
[19:03] <lindsaymobil22> h1ll37, +1
[19:03] <GOMI> i just want my old one back.
[19:03] <nyuszika7h> oCean: "Or you could also  add your account to the www-data group, which is owner of all files
[19:03] <nyuszika7h> How do I do that?
[19:03] <nyuszika7h> GOMI: restart Ubuntu
[19:04] <nyuszika7h> I once installed 'kubuntu-desktop', and when I tried to remove it, it also removed 'ubuntu-desktop'... is that normal? o_O
[19:04] <spid3rnet> ok found me a best way before i download the 10.10
[19:04] <lindsaymobil22> nyuszika7h, Kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop are metapackages, not the desktops
[19:04] <mjs> hi all...does anyone know how i can access a file from an .iso mounted via archive mounter?...i need to chmod a setup file for installation in wine?
[19:04] <MK`> Oh you can have multiple environments installed?
[19:04] <MK`> I didn't know that
[19:05] <nyuszika7h> !anyone | mjs
[19:05] <erUSUL> AnubArack: try with « echo -n disk | sudo tee /sys/power/state »
[19:05] <rumpe1> MK`, as much as you like ... and use them simultaniously, if you want/need to...
[19:05] <MK`> cool
[19:05] <coe> how we fix ubuntu vga lenovo g460 ha....
[19:06] <MK`> If I put /mnt as a separate partition, how big does it need to be?
[19:06] <rumpe1> MK`, indeed :D
[19:06] <spid3rnet> help guys
[19:06] <rumpe1> MK`, that wouldn't make any sense
[19:06] <rr0hit> coe: You mean an external monitor?
[19:06] <coe> no
[19:06] <coe> internal monitor
[19:06] <MK`> do /mnt and /media need to be on the / partition?
[19:06] <coe> Desktop effect can't run welll
[19:06] <rr0hit> coe: whats the problem
[19:06] <lucid_j> Is there any way to display the folders on nautilus as thumbnails, like in windows vista or 7?
[19:06] <coe> spid3rnet, what...
[19:07] <rumpe1> MK`, /mnt is usually used as mountpoint for external partitions...
[19:07] <AnubArack> erUSUL, black screen, only one like of text : [12344.1234]PM: Now enough free swap
[19:07] <MK`> yeah i know
[19:07] <coe> rr0hit, am need run desktop effect but can't
[19:07] <Cane> MK` mnt is usually a virtual directory or full of virtual mount points for other drives and devices, it can be 20mb if you want
[19:07] <GOMI> oeffff got it back to normal
[19:07] <MK`> ok
[19:07] <rr0hit> coe which graphics card?
[19:07] <MK`> Can I just make it the minimum partition size?
[19:07] <MK`> Since it's just a folder
[19:07] <coe> rr0hit, that because my driver vga not work well, am have used lenovo g460
[19:07] <Cane> yup, but wondering why you want to do that
[19:07] <rumpe1> MK`, it's a folder... not a partition
[19:07] <MK`> just curious
[19:08] <MK`> I know heh
[19:08] <xiamx> how can i force removing a package without removing the packages depending on it?
[19:08] <erUSUL> AnubArack: well; i dunno what is happening; you clearly does have enough swap
[19:08] <spid3rnet> oCean help
[19:08] <MK`> I mean if I theoretically put it on its own partition
[19:08] <coe> rr0hit, i think intel but not sure, am have used lenovo G460
[19:08] <Cane> you're creating a partition that links other partitions and drives together
[19:08] <MK`> does the same apply for /media?
[19:08] <Cane> check fstab for mount points MK`
[19:08] <rumpe1> MK`, i really don't get the meaning of the question ^^
[19:08] <MK`> it's ok, nvm :P
[19:09] <Jadi> Oo
[19:09] <erUSUL> hard to follow
[19:09] <erUSUL> !enter | MK`
[19:09] <Cane> but generally, yes /media is like /mnt
[19:09] <AnubArack> erUSUL, Might be an 11.04 beta2 bug (i know about #ubuntu+1 , but no one is there so I tried my luck here)
[19:09] <xangua1> AnubArack: ¬¬
[19:09] <rush__> hi
[19:10] <MK`> nvm :/
[19:10] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: I have pentium 4, 512mb ram , is unity good for my system
[19:11] <mjs> hi all...how  can i access a file from an .iso mounted via archive mounter?...i need to chmod a setup file for installation in wine?
[19:11] <erUSUL> what would be the ratinale of having /media/ or /mnt/ in a separate partition? they do not hold any data only mount points
[19:11] <AnubArack> xangua, what? not all problems are build related. Maybe this was something easy to fix
[19:11] <coe> rr0hit, can you help
[19:11] <rr0hit> coe "lspci" command will tell you your graphics card
[19:11] <IdleOne> AnubArack: ALL 11.04 questions go to #ubuntu+1
[19:12] <Calinou> he said "(i know about #ubuntu+1 , but no one is there so I tried my luck here)"
[19:12] <MK`> I was just reading about having all the root folders on other partitions, like /tmp. I get it, my question about /mnt and /media was stupid, nevermind it..
[19:12] <GOMI> can i use this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  to try solve flickering screen & login problems   ??????
[19:12] <[snake]> Is there a way I can link keys on my keyboard to different functions in lmms? specifically I want to link something to the volume on one of my mixer channels.
[19:13] <dusf_> at some point today, possible after updates, i noticed that when i click on the ubuntu applications menu it highlights but no drop down panel appears, although places and system work fine. i have read that if i 'rm ~/.config/menus/applications.menu' it will fix it, but will i then lose all entires for wine etc?
[19:13] <lucid_j> Is there any way to display the folders on nautilus as thumbnails, like in windows vista or 7?
[19:13] <coe> rr0hit, http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/
[19:13] <eveningsky> I'm building a program and the instructions included the following command: "export JOBS=2". What does this do?
[19:14] <erUSUL> MK`: all root folders make no sense it makes sense for things like /var /usr/ and /temp
[19:14] <erUSUL> !fhs | MK`
[19:14] <Cane> eveningsky export sets a veriable, in that case jobs=2
[19:14] <raven_> virtual box trying to install vbox 4 from the website but ubuntu tells me about conflicts to the installed 3.2 version...
[19:15] <erUSUL> raven_: remove/purge 3.2 first?
[19:15] <Cane> programs can read variables, and it might mean your compiler uses two jobs at once, maybe to help on dual cpu systems.. what is it you're following?
[19:15] <atlef> raven_: remove the 3.2 version before installing 4.0.4
[19:15] <eveningsky> cane, I'm installing a local version of node.js
[19:16] <rr0hit> coe : I had a similar proble with nvidia driver. I fixed it using nvidia control centre. no idea abt ur problem
[19:16] <Cane> eveningsky export JOBS=2 # optional, sets number of parallel commands
[19:16] <coe> rr0hit, are you have solution ?
[19:16] <eveningsky> yeah
[19:16] <raven_> atlef, how to list the name of the installed package
[19:16] <dusf_> at some point today, possible after updates, i noticed that when i click on the ubuntu applications menu it highlights but no drop down panel appears, although places and system work fine. i have read that if i 'rm ~/.config/menus/applications.menu' it will fix it, but will i then lose all entires for wine etc?
[19:17] <eveningsky> cane, i couldn't really understand the comment without really understanding export
[19:17] <atlef> raven_: just remove it in synaptic packagemanager
[19:17] <eveningsky> cane i say JOBS=3 ?
[19:17] <raven_> atlef, ok tnx
[19:17] <eveningsky> what would be the effect?
[19:18] <Cane> the effect would be JOBS is set to 3. node.js will read JOBS and run 3 commands at once
[19:18] <coe> rr0hit,
[19:19] <eveningsky> is that a common variable? or something they come up with in their build script?
[19:19] <ttone> f
[19:19] <unomystEz> how can I enable full verbosity when the kernel boots?
[19:19] <unomystEz> ubuntu will not work on my desktop, even the install cd freezes
[19:19] <lucid_j> e.x. if I have a folder containing an mp3 album with cover embedded in ID3 tag. Is it possoble to display it as a thumbnail of the cover as in windows?
[19:20] <Cane> eveningsky i think its something they use for their script, but is system wide if used by EXPORT
[19:20] <obscurant1st> i am trying to install php in my syste. But after installing php now i get a 403 forbidden error for all php pages. html [pages are working fine
[19:22] <Cane> eveningsky if you type export at the shell, you'll see what is ready set
[19:22] <eveningsky> cane, but basically the effect is to build faster by running multiple commands at once, but probably for it to work, the build script must encorporate that variable?
[19:22] <frewsxcv> i have a touchpad that has the buttons on the touchpad themselves, so you click the touchpad essentially. but ubuntu thinks the buttons are the mouse
[19:22] <atlef> unomystEz: may be usefull: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[19:22] <Cane> eveningsky yes, it seems as if that is how they've set up the script
[19:22] <coe> .
[19:22] <eveningsky> cool thanks
[19:23] <alessio_alex> hello
[19:23] <Cane> hi
[19:23] <eveningsky> yo
[19:23] <alessio_alex> I have a small memory problem now
[19:24] <eveningsky> yeah, mines small too, but it's all about how you use it
[19:24] <alessio_alex> But I'm refearing to the thing that you "drag" with your mouse to go up/down
[19:24] <vhd> how to auto switch to hdmi output when its connected and back to laptop display when disconnected?
[19:24] <alessio_alex> In Ubuntu, it's kind of white
[19:24] <alessio_alex> like the background
[19:24] <alessio_alex> this happens in the text editors and browsers
[19:24] <alessio_alex> not sure how to change its color
[19:25] <dusf_> at some point today, possibly after updates, i noticed that when i click on the ubuntu applications menu it highlights but no drop down panel appears, although places and system work fine. i have read that if i 'rm ~/.config/menus/applications.menu' may fix it, is this the correct action and would i then lose all entires for wine etc?
[19:25] <alessio_alex> the scroll thingy
[19:25] <MK`> erUSUL: how big should I make /tmp, /usr, and /var?
[19:25] <alessio_alex> does anybody have a clue.. ?
[19:25] <damno> MK, r u gonna make diff temp var and usr partitions?
[19:25] <CantWinn> Using the Ubuntu 11.04, It's been a while since I've used Ubuntu or any *untu.. I gotta say, this my have just won over my Mint partition with open arms.. I love it!
[19:25] <eveningsky> well most people call it a scrollbar. I don't know how to fix it, but that might help you google if nobody here has the answer
[19:26] <MK`> yeah damno
[19:26] <alessio_alex> eveningsky don't you have this problem..?
[19:26] <coe> rr0hit, still on channell
[19:27] <damno> why do I see some names in white?
[19:27] <vhd> Is it possible to have video output switch to HDMI when it connects and back when disconnected, automatically?
[19:27] <eveningsky> alessio_alex: I think I see what you mean but it doesn't bother me so not a "problem"
[19:28] <Logan_> !ot | CantWinn
[19:28] <eveningsky> alessio_alex: maybe try installing different themes till you get colors you like
[19:28] <alessio_alex> ok
[19:28] <alessio_alex> thanks for your help
[19:29] <CantWinn> ubottu: Thanks I was actually getting to a support question, just trying to do many things at once - it's my birthday and people are calling like crazy - any way just trying to type it out
[19:29] <coe> am need used Desktop effect on ubuntu 10.10, am used lenovo g460 and lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ any body can help ?!!1
[19:29] <ManDay> How do I make the border at which I can drag and resize windows thicker?
[19:29] <ferrer3> Can you help me? I cant reduce brightness on my VAIO notebook. FN+F6\5 work, but there is no effect.
[19:29] <ManDay> its 1 damn pixel by default
[19:29] <eveningsky> alessio_alex: and you can actually customize your theme too, so if you like everything but the scrollbar, try to figure out which theme color is behind the scrollbar
[19:29] <dusf_> at some point today, possibly after updates, i noticed that when i click on the ubuntu applications menu it highlights but no drop down panel appears, although places and system work fine. i have read that if i 'rm ~/.config/menus/applications.menu' may fix it, is this the correct action and would i then lose all entires for wine etc?
[19:31] <Cane> dusf_  you can do mv ~/.config/menus/applications.menu ~/backup.applications.menu
[19:31] <ferrer3> Can someone help me to solve problem with brightness on sony vaio?
[19:31] <Cane> that'll move it to your user directory and if it don't work, move it back... but if the system can't find your applcaitons.menu file it creates a default one
[19:32] <vhd> is it possible to manipulate the Nvidia X Server settings via terminal commands?
[19:32] <dusf_> Cane: magically fixed, ty :)
[19:32] <Cane> :)
[19:33] <benzaldehyde> vhd: i don't think
[19:33] <damno> dusf, copy ur "applications-merged" folder somewhere to keep the wine menu items, and place it back to whr it shd b; later
[19:33] <vhd> benzaldehyde, ah that places a roadblock then :/ thanks
[19:33] <dusf_> damno: already fixed with cane's command, ty anyway
[19:33] <dusf> bye dusf
[19:33] <benzaldehyde> vhd: i have heard of the res being set in xorg.conf, gl
[19:33] <dusf_> bye
[19:34] <dusf> ;)
[19:34] <vhd> benzaldehyde, I wanted to try write a script which would switch display output based on whether hdmi output was connected or not.
[19:35] <benzaldehyde> vhd: havy stuff
[19:35] <CantWinn> Just wondering about the ATI proprietary drivers, is it even worth turning them on? I know when I was using Mint it just bogged down my system badly and I have a quad core lol
[19:35] <damno> all has quit
[19:37] <dsjackins> if i just write a windows iso to a usb like i would an ubuntu iso can i install from it?
[19:37] <Memphizzz> how can i remove the "About Gnome" item from the "System" category in the panel for example?
[19:37] <ohsix> theres a menu editor, and that's a menu
[19:38] <alessio_alex> eveningsky the solution to my problem was installing gnome-color-chooser
[19:38] <atlef> dsjackins: should work
[19:38] <ohsix> theres some lockdown stuff that lets you white out menu entries as system policy instead of per user too
[19:38] <alessio_alex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1526408
[19:38] <Memphizzz> ohsix: but it doesnt show the "About Gnome" item
[19:38] <ohsix> Memphizzz: oh that, k
[19:40] <george> could anyone help get "motion" started at startup?
[19:40] <MK`> There are some Japanese characters in unicode that seem to be switched in ubuntu, no matter what application or font I use. Where I can I search through reported bugs, and does anyone here know kana to check if it affects you too?
[19:41] <ferrer3> can you help me? i have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my vaio notebook. But i cant control  brightness
[19:41] <damno> mysterious
[19:41] <ferrer3> all functions dont work
[19:41] <coe> all ame need make my Desktop Effect work well but can't, why, am used lenovo G460 lspci like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ PLEASE HELP ME.
[19:41] <ohsix> MK`: which ones?
[19:42] <ohsix> MK`: is it the actual symbol thats swapped or something in the font
[19:42] <Andy80> maybe an off topic question, but I'm sure you can point me to the right place: how does it work for being added/syndacated on Ubuntu Planet ?
[19:42] <coe> ikonia, all ame need make my Desktop Effect work well but can't, why, am used lenovo G460 lspci like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ PLEASE HELP ME.
[19:42] <damno> ferre3, do u have graphic any driver installed?
[19:42] <damno> ferre3, do u have any graphic driver installed?
[19:42] <george> I have installed "motion" and used "update-rc.d" to add to runlevels; however, still not starting
[19:43] <MK`> the combining dakuten and handakuten. a) あ゙     b) あ゛     | a) is the combining character, and acts as such on my friends' assorted windows installations, but it shows opposite for me, with b) combining
[19:43] <ferrer3> damno, no, should i? i vae intel video card... will it help?
[19:43] <ohsix> Andy80: i think theres a link on how to get syndicated _on_ planet gnome, and iirc it just says be a prominent member or notable blog; and ask to be added
[19:43] <MK`> I checked in many fonts and it's all the same, even the same fonts they used on windows
[19:44] <coe> all ame need make my Desktop Effect work well but can't, why, am used lenovo G460 lspci like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ PLEASE HELP ME.
[19:44] <damno> for me, the brightness control resides in the nvidia settings manager.
[19:44] <coder2> i have ubuntu lucid installed on my dell studio laptop......my system hangs quite often these days..........so any idea why this is happening???
[19:44] <Andy80> ohsix: thanks, I'll give a look :)
[19:44] <Memphizzz> how can i remove the "About Gnome" item from the "System" category in the panel for example?
[19:44] <ferrer3> the problem is my card isnt nvidia :(
[19:44] <coe> all ame need make my Desktop Effect can't work well, why, am used lenovo G460 lspci like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/ PLEASE HELP ME.
[19:44] <george> NEED HELP...  anyone?
[19:44] <coe> george, what...
[19:45] <george> I have installed "motion" but I can't get it to start with the machine
[19:45] <george> I use update-rc.d to update the runlevels, but still nothing
[19:45] <coder2> system hangs...........help
[19:46] <nyuszika7h> I added myself to the www-data group, but I still can't access /var/www !
[19:46] <coe> coder2, what system hangs you mean?
[19:47] <coe> nyuszika7h, mean ?
[19:47] <nyuszika7h> coe: what?
[19:47] <coder2> coe: my whole operating system........and i have to power off then restat my laptop
[19:47] <nyuszika7h> Could not save the file /var/www/mysqli.php.
[19:48] <ferrer3> guys, pls help. need to install driver for video card Intel GMA HD... how??
[19:48] <george> hello???
[19:48] <coderego> Hi Everyone, I'm trying to mount a DD image file of an XFS file system onto my ubuntu install using command:
[19:48] <coderego>  sudo mount -t XFS sdb.img /mnt/sdb
[19:48] <coderego>  my dmesg | tail shows "Bad Magic Number"
[19:48] <coderego> does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this mounted?
[19:49] <coe> nyuszika7h, and coder2 am sorry i don't understand
[19:49] <ohsix> coderego: you need to use -o loop so mount will setup the .img on a loop; or do it yourself with losetup
[19:49] <GOMI> someone can FIX  NVIDIA problems , i think its that causing the problems of flickering
[19:49] <GOMI> just deleted flash
[19:49] <coderego> Yes sorry, I am using -o loop
[19:49] <ohsix> (i recommend the latter, until you are at least familiar with using losetup; so you can delete them and such when mount goes awry)
[19:50] <ohsix> coderego: is it an xfs filesystem alone or a hard disk image with partitions?
[19:50] <coder2> coe: dont understand what or which part???
[19:50] <coe> oCean, can you help me for vga driver on lenovo g640 am have bad grafick and am can't install Desktop Effect to
[19:50] <CantWinn> GOMI: I take it when you are trying to play a flash video that it's flickering?
[19:50] <coderego> The hard drive on which the IMG file is stored is an NTFS file system. THe IMG file itself is XFS
[19:50] <coe> coder2, alll part
[19:50] <coe> oCean, please
[19:51] <coe> !vga
[19:51] <GOMI> no its just random flickering and it kicks me back to login screen.
[19:51] <coe> !ls coe
[19:51] <nyuszika7h> coe: I have Apache installed, and I can't access /var/www. So I added myself to the www-data user group, but I still can't access /var/www.
[19:52] <damno> what is the byobu wm utility? what can I do with it?
[19:52] <GOMI> before i coundt play flash , saying its crashed
[19:52] <GOMI> so i deleted it
[19:52] <GOMI> but flickering remain
[19:52] <GOMI> s
[19:52] <CantWinn> GOMI: What does it say in your Xorg logs?
[19:52] <j5> after switching to Firefox 4 on ubuntu, my flash has all sorts of missing chunks, white blocks, and buggy interactivity-- anyone know a solution to this?
[19:53] <GOMI> what must i look for ?
[19:53] <coderego> Anyone have any ideas on the "Bad Magic Number" error when mounting a DD image containing an XFS file system?
[19:53] <ohsix> j5: on x86_64 with nspluginwrapper & 32bit plugin?
[19:53] <szwiru> :>
[19:53] <ohsix> coderego: if you get a bad magic number area it's not a raw xfs filesystem
[19:53] <ohsix> coderego: or it's very damaged
[19:53] <ferrer3> guys pls... sorry for stupid question - how to update video driver for Intel GMA HD?
[19:53] <j5> ohsix, yeah i think so
[19:53] <coe> HOW TO FIX MY PROBLEM : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591820/
[19:54] <ohsix> j5: i've had problems like that with nspluginwrapper and flash, even before ff4, is it differently bad on different websites? it doesn't support wmode with nspluginwrapper
[19:54] <coder2> coe: let me explain you....i have a dell studio laptop installed with ubuntu 10.04 lucid......and it often gets hanged......and nothing works out i have tried ctrl+alt+del too to restart but it didnot worked so everutime i have to power off manually and then restart my laptop......so i just want to get rid of this problem
[19:54] <GOMI> i dont see any errors ?
[19:54] <j5> ohsix, yeah.. its fine on some websites-- and google chromes flash is almost flawless
[19:54] <GOMI> strange
[19:55] <CantWinn> GOMI: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:55] <Pici> !who
[19:55] <CantWinn> GOMI: sorry in a terminal type "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and see where it's terminating
[19:55] <j5> ohsix, im not sure if i have the 32bit plugin, i have Adobe Flash Player plugin for mozilla, which may or may not be that
[19:55] <ohsix> j5: all i can really suggest is the native plugin, nspluginwrapper has never really worked acceptably for me
[19:56] <coe> coder2, innstall you os back
[19:56] <ohsix> j5: if you have an x86_64 install and used flashplugin-installer (the package) instead of manually doing it, you have nspluginwrapper
[19:56] <j5> yeah i have nspluginwrapper, ok so ill look for the native one
[19:56] <GOMI> what do you mean by "where its terminating"
[19:57] <coe> coder2, innstall you os back orrrr burn it
[19:57] <GOMI> its the same as in log vieuwer ?
[19:57] <ohsix> j5: after you put native in the right place, or even before, be sure to uninstall flashplugin-installer (and nspluginwrapper and stuff should automatically go with it)
[19:57] <ferrer3> guys, pls help. need to install driver for video card Intel GMA HD... how??
[19:57] <coder2> coe: is it the last option???can you tell me the reason why this is happening
[19:57] <CantWinn> GOMI: I'm not sure, because I only really use cat in terminal, but if it sounds good do it
[19:58] <ohsix> ferrer3: it's already installed, what do you want to actually achieve? are you experiencing a bug or a lockup?
[19:58] <coe> coder2, yes., it mean you not lucky, and you dell studio need to burn, burn it and get new one
[19:58] <GOMI> i done it , its good
[19:58] <CantWinn> lol
[19:59] <damno> where are the packages dloded with apt-get reside?
[19:59] <Kjellski> How could I wait for two subprocesses to finish in any order? I´m not interested in the order... ?
[19:59] <coder2> ferrer3: go to system->administration->hardware drivers
[19:59] <ohsix> damno: /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:59] <CantWinn> GOMI: what your looking for is where the last user session failed, from that you can post it to a pastebin.com file and then link it here for people to muddle over.