[12:34] <Angelus> hmm
[12:35] <Angelus> a user in the group "bin" can run everything?
[12:35] <Angelus> O_O
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> :)
[12:37] <lakshmi_> Hi everyone. *Quick one*. Whats the equivalent key for F8 key (Beryl=>preview of all open applications) in Compiz Fusion
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> lakshmi_: #compiz, or #ubuntu-effects
[12:39] <parsnip> hey all
[12:40] <parsnip> ive made a service menu as best i could
[12:40] <parsnip> but its not showing when i right click mp3s
[12:40] <parsnip> can anyone advise?
[12:40] <parsnip> please
[12:40] <lakshmi_> I just realised :) Sorry nosrednaekim.
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> lakshmi_: not a problem. just that ther are more knowledgeable people there
[12:41] <tazgodx_> anyone tried LinuxMCE?
[12:42] <parsnip> !linuxmce
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxmce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <tazgodx_> take that as a no?
[12:43] <parsnip> tazgodx_: not myself, let me google
[12:43] <tazgodx_> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2176025602905109829&hl=en
[12:43] <tazgodx_> there is a demo video
[12:43] <tazgodx_> http://linuxmce.com/
[12:44] <tazgodx_> thats main page
[12:44] <parsnip> looks pretty sweet dude
[12:45] <parsnip> whats up with it?
[12:46] <tazgodx_> i don't know, looks sweet, but seems too good to be true. and before i wipe out my mythtv box, i was wondering if it really worked that good, and if anyone knew a list of the hardware they used in that video
[12:46] <zblach> ok. i've got a shell question. I have 20 files, and another file with 20 lines in it. what I'd like to do is ouput one file, then the first line, then the second file, then the second line ...
[12:46] <zblach> how would I accomplish this?
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> zblach: #bash
[12:50] <parsnip> tazgodx_: it does look pretty damn sweet
[12:50] <parsnip> tazgodx_: the remote is AWESOME
[12:50] <tazgodx_> yeah
[12:50] <tazgodx_> i found out what remote he is useing, but it still seems too good to be true
[12:51] <tazgodx_> im a little hessitant to wipe my mythtv box for it yet
[12:51] <parsnip> taz: get a 20gb hdd from someplace and try it
[12:51] <parsnip> tazgodx_: how much is it?
[12:52] <parsnip> tazgodx_: for the remote?
[12:52] <gorgonizer> does anyone know if it possible to get an asus m2v motherboard to behave itself with Kubuntu (have tried Feisty and now using Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 3)?  Fiesty always installed but failed to boot and Gutsy works, but after a period of time my SATA drive fails to work, as does my friends brand new 500GB SATA drive
[12:53] <parsnip> gorgonizer: yuoo tried hdparm
[12:53] <parsnip> or is it param
[12:53] <parsnip> gorgonizer: youu might need to tweak it a bit
[12:54] <gorgonizer> root@sweetleaf:~# hdparm -I /dev/sda2
[12:54] <gorgonizer> /dev/sda2: HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error
[12:54] <tazgodx_> parsnip: http://fiire.com/fiire-chief.php
[12:54] <gorgonizer> the weird thing is, when I first boot into the system, it works fine, I can watch the films/vids I have on it, it seems to 'degrade' over time...
[12:56] <parsnip> tazgodx_: pricey but worth it
[12:56] <parsnip> tazgodx_: does it not just work with mythtv??
[12:56] <tazgodx_> well, LinuxMCE is a total new install, needs to reformat the HDDs
[12:56] <tazgodx_> installs from scratch
[12:57] <tazgodx_> from what i understand it uses mythtv for controlling TVs and recording
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> gorgonizer: weird... file a bug report.
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> wish you sould instal linuxMCE from a reporitory.
[12:59] <gorgonizer> right, will do!! gonna try ripping out the temp network card I put in (as I have got the onboard gigabit NIC working finally) to see if that helps in some weird way.. nad the un-needed SATA drive..
[12:59] <drbeams> !pastebin
[12:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> ok
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> gorgonizer: ok.
[01:00] <Lopin> Okay...  I'm having problems with my soundcard...
[01:00] <drbeams> bwc43xx-fwcutter install through adept is causing a crash - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34582/
[01:00] <frax> when I watch a movie in kaffeine I get <font color = xxx > "Subtible message" </font> ..  how do I make kaffeine understand that it should format the subtitle not print the formating? thanks
[01:00] <Lopin> Linux can't find my soundcard...
[01:01] <rosso> Sakkath: how was your upgrade?
[01:01] <Sakkath> rosso: it was ok
[01:02] <rosso> Sakkath: congrats :)
[01:02] <Sakkath> rosso: ty
[01:03] <Lopin> !sound
[01:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:11] <parsnip> hey all
[01:12] <parsnip> can someone verify this syntax for me please
[01:13] <parsnip> Exec=/bin/sh -c "newArtist=`kdialog --Artist "Enter the new artist"`;id3tag -a $newArtist %u"
[01:14] <drbeams> hi, adept manager won't open.  it says that something else is using it
[01:14] <stdin> one to many quotes and you actually don't need the "/bin/sh -c" part
[01:15] <Tm_T> !adeptcrashfix | drbeams
[01:15] <Tm_T> aaaah!
[01:15] <stdin> drewcipher_: open konsole and run "sudo fuer -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:15] <stdin> aee
[01:15] <Tm_T> hah
[01:15] <stdin> drewcipher_: open konsole and run "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:16] <Tm_T> stdin: yup, ubotu doesn't make any errors
[01:16] <BluesKaj> err drbeams ...read above
[01:16] <drbeams> bcm43xx-fwcutter is foobared
[01:17] <stdin> I can't type any more, so I'll stop
[01:18] <the-erm> Hey ... my /etc/resolve.conf keeps getting changed, anyone know what is changing it?
[01:18] <Tm_T> black_one: stop nickspam
[01:18] <Tm_T> the-erm: dhcp, or, knetworkmanager, or any similar
[01:18] <parsnip> stdin: thanks for the advice man. do you mean ' or "s
[01:19] <drewcipher_> stdin? I'll get right on it.
[01:19] <Tm_T> drewcipher_: nah
[01:19] <the-erm> Tm_T: I believe I have knetworkmanager set up properly.
[01:19] <pingveno> Is there some sort of a web service interface planned to directly access the text of Wikipedia?
[01:19] <the-erm> I guess I should double check.
[01:20] <Tm_T> the-erm: well, it handles it then
[01:20] <pingveno> I'm thinking about making a bot, but I don't want to put much load on the server.
[01:20] <stdin> parsnip: basically  " Exec=id3tag -a $(kdialog --Artist "Enter the new artist") %u " would work
[01:21] <stdin> parsnip: tho I think it's %U not %u
[01:22] <the-erm> Tm_T: something is changing it, even if I set it in knetworkmanager.  I'll set it once, come back a few weeks later and then it's back to the old version.  I guess I'll just set up a cron job that copies the resolve.conf I want every 15 minutes or so.
[01:23] <Biovore> the-erm: on wifi?
[01:23] <Biovore> or dhcp?
[01:23] <parsnip> stdin: cheers man, ive been on this all night
[01:23] <parsnip> i'll check the %u /
[01:24] <parsnip> stdin: capital U is for multiples
[01:24] <the-erm> Biovore: that's the weird thing about it, I'm running a static ip.
[01:25] <Biovore> the-erm: is /etc/network/interfaces setup for static?
[01:25] <stdin> parsnip: would work wither way then
[01:25] <stdin> s/wither/either/
[01:26] <parsnip> stdin: true :)
[01:27] <Tm_T> the-erm: I bet it's dhcp
[01:27] <the-erm> Biovore, Tm_T: http://pastebin.ca/666256 // nope that sucker is static
[01:27] <Biovore> well knetwork manager sometimes does weird stuff..  Its a susey thing.. go figure..
[01:28] <Biovore> the-erm: yup.. I say thats a static config..
[01:28] <Tm_T> the-erm: if you have dhcp running...
[01:28] <Biovore> (dhclient)
[01:28] <Tm_T> yup
[01:30] <the-erm> ps -A | grep dh  == 4946 ?        00:00:00 dhcdbd // hmmm
[01:31] <the-erm> I think I'll just skip it and run cp /etc/resolv.conf.force /etc/resolv.conf every 15 minutes.
[01:31] <NamShub> is there anyway to add feed from firefox to akregator?
[01:31] <ronaldo> hi
[01:32] <M_42> does anyone here know what mode ext3 is in by default in feisty???
[01:33] <magicalmoose> Hey guys, I have a problem. First off, I can't run beryl manager without running it on the terminal or using a command, and when it finally runs, my entire screen freezes, the background turns black, and the title bar (minimize, exit, restore, etc) goes away, and I have to keep restarting my computer, so yeah, if anyone could help me, that would be awesome.
[01:35] <BluesKaj> !beryl | magicalmoose
[01:36] <magicalmoose> hm?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> !beryl
[01:36] <az> hey
[01:37] <magicalmoose> I'm sorry, I must sound stupid, I'm kinda new to kubuntu and irc and whatnot, explain again?
[01:37] <BluesKaj> hmmm for sure ...where's ubotu ?
[01:37] <mneptok> on strike
[01:38] <magicalmoose> help me?
[01:38] <BluesKaj> magicalmoose, check in #ubuntu-effects
[01:38] <mneptok> he wants better wages and clean diapers.
[01:38] <magicalmoose> thanks, blueskaj
[01:39] <the-erm> I want better wages and clean diapers ... or at least someone else to change them for me.
[01:40] <BluesKaj> use the bathroom , or you're too young orold to be here :)
[01:40] <az> hey, i downloaded the nvidia driver from the nvidia homepage (filename.run), but how do i install it on Kubuntu ?
[01:41] <the-erm> * the diapers aren't for me, but the kids *
[01:42] <az> thats what i would say to
[01:42] <az> can anyone help me ?
[01:43] <the-erm> az I think you need to set the execute bit chmod +x filename.run
[01:44] <magicalmoose> BluesKaj, #ubuntu-effects didn't help me
[01:44] <BluesKaj> az,  in the terminal : sh ./driverfilename.run
[01:45] <az> yess, i got it, but now it says exit X
[01:45] <az> how ?
[01:45] <az> telinit    3?
[01:46] <BluesKaj> sorry magicalmoose, my beryl knowledge is practically nonexistent since I don't use it :(
[01:48] <magicalmoose> okay. well thanks anyway
[01:48] <alan__> Problem: Text is too small.
[01:48] <elvirolo2> hi all
[01:48] <alan__> in all KDE aplications
[01:48] <elvirolo2> my usb key is not detected
[01:51] <aaroncampbell> On my last few updates with adept, I got a warning saying that changes couldn't be committed, even though it seems they were (it shows no packages available for update).  What might be causing this?  I wonder if it's related to the fact that I install Eclipse, but it doesn't work.
[01:51] <aaroncampbell> Is there a way for me to see what the cause was?
[01:52] <Biovore> does the usb key show yup in dmesg
[01:53] <az> how do i close the X server ?
[01:53] <Biovore> ctrl-alt-backspace will restar tthe X server..  (log you out as well)
[01:54] <the-erm> then you can click the power button and turn off the computer.
[01:57] <BluesKaj> Biovore,that's more info than we need
[02:03] <alan__> Volv.
[02:03] <alan__> =(
[02:03] <alan__> No funcion.
[02:04] <alan__> El texto sigue muy pequeo.
[02:04] <mneptok> !es > alan__
[02:04] <alan__> Cmo?
[02:05] <mneptok>  /join #ubuntu-es
[02:06] <alan__> ah, ok. Gracias. And sorry x_x
[02:07] <azzco> Hello how do I install a specific version of a package?
[02:07] <azzco> I need to install gammu 1.10.6 but I can only see 1.11 version in adept
[02:07] <Biovore> azzco: I download the deb and install it..
[02:07] <azzco> I need to find the package manually?
[02:08] <intelikey> join #ubumtu
[02:08] <intelikey> ooops sorry
[02:09] <flaccid> azzco: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/03/how-to-install-specific-version-of.html
[02:09] <flaccid> i think that should help
[02:09] <kaminix2> Any idea as to why the "ad row [to table] " option would be dimmed in KWord?
[02:09] <azzco> Thanks I'll check it out then :)
[02:09] <flaccid> failing that, there is more in google
[02:09] <flaccid> coffee time
[02:15] <hamadooo> why i can't use my mic
[02:15] <hamadooo> the same mic i can use it in windows
[02:15] <hamadooo> but  i can't use it in ubuntu
[02:16] <intelikey> input volume too low or muted ?      wrong input device selected ?
[02:16] <flaccid> !sound
[02:17] <hamadooo> how i select the device
[02:17] <flaccid> try that plus kmix
[02:17] <hamadooo> plus what
[02:17] <Biovore> some sound devices the mic dosn't work.. or its half-duplex..
[02:18] <flaccid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[02:18] <intelikey> flaccid any good with sound issues ?    i can hardly hear any sound here if all is very very quiet, i hear most faint sound from the speakers.      i've checked all i know to check, still the same.    ???
[02:18] <doug_> if i wrote a script file with the #! /bin/sh on top and then put a rovclock command under that, and put the file into /etc/init.d and changed it to root ownership, would it execute the command at boot?
[02:22] <flaccid> intelikey: unfortunately not. i do not agree with sound on linux as it forks unix. also is poorly documented if at all. sound is hit and miss on linux
[02:23] <flaccid> intelikey: which sound card?
[02:23] <intelikey> heh.   well it's always hit until now for me.  this is the first box that has given any trubble.
[02:24] <flaccid> hmm they have improved the wiki but, interesting http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[02:24] <intelikey> errummm it's calling it ac97
[02:24] <flaccid> omg
[02:24] <flaccid> that one should be np
[02:24] <intelikey> it's a   sis
[02:24] <flaccid> altough ac97 is not the chip
[02:24] <flaccid> ah yep
[02:24] <intelikey> i'll post the info give me a sec.
[02:25] <flaccid> the intel ich and ati ac97 work fine in alsa. maybe its because its a sis
[02:25] <flaccid> is it turned up in kmix / alsamixer?
[02:25] <intelikey> here's  lshw   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39086
[02:25] <flaccid> do you get same vol problem with aplay?
[02:26] <intelikey> here's lspci  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39087
[02:26] <intelikey> flaccid aplay ?       <blinks>
[02:26] <elvirolo2> hi
[02:27] <elvirolo2> how do i install ati proprietary drivres under kubuntu fesity ?
[02:27] <elvirolo2> drivers*
[02:27] <intelikey> !ati | elvirolo2
[02:27] <flaccid> intelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[02:27] <intelikey> is ubotu dead ?
[02:27] <flaccid> intelikey: this is it? configuration: driver=Trident4DWaveAudio
[02:27] <flaccid> looks like it
[02:28] <intelikey> flaccid yeah it's auto loading the trident driver
[02:29] <flaccid> its possible this thread could help or maybe not http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238446&page=4
[02:29] <elvirolo2> still, could anyone help me ?
[02:29] <flaccid> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[02:29] <elvirolo2> i know there's a tool for that in ubuntu
[02:29] <flaccid> !ati
[02:29] <flaccid> i'll get you the link
[02:30] <elvirolo2> thank you
[02:30] <flaccid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:31] <elvirolo2> flaccid: thanks
[02:33] <flaccid> np
[02:34] <intelikey> flaccid  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449  is un-usable in cli mode.  the lines don't warp.
[02:34] <flaccid> huh?
[02:34] <BluesKaj> !ubotu
[02:34] <intelikey> aplay -l does list the card though
[02:34] <flaccid> i don't know what you mean sorry intelikey
[02:35] <intelikey> can't read the page.    i see the first eighty chars of the line then th\nso i can't really tell what it's saying about that.
[02:36] <flaccid> use a gui browser then
[02:36] <flaccid> kubuntu is after all a desktop operating system :)
[02:36] <intelikey> install a gui to get sound working.     don't be dificult.
[02:37] <flaccid> i can't help it if you can't read a web page and the ubuntu are using non free forums that are not web standards..
[02:37] <flaccid> :)
[02:37] <draik> intelikey: Audio doesn't work without a GUI?
[02:37] <draik> What about espeak?
[02:37] <intelikey> so by your defanition "desktop" means "gui desktop"   hmmm
[02:37] <flaccid> i didn't define it, no
[02:38] <intelikey> :)
[02:38] <intelikey> ok.   well   i just wanted to point out that the page is not cli friendly.
[02:39] <flaccid> lol the whole forums is non free and non web standards/semantic
[02:39] <flaccid> doco team don't care as usual
[02:39] <intelikey> as usual
[02:39] <Eeyore-Jr> hi.  i need to repair a adept installation.  i need to reset the config for a package.  how do i do that?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> !adept-fix
[02:40] <intelikey> dpkg-reconfigure -plow <packagename>
[02:40] <intelikey> BluesKaj ubotu seems to be AWOL
[02:40] <flaccid> time to go on a vpn
[02:40] <flaccid> bbs
[02:41] <BluesKaj> yeah  intelikey , seems so
[02:46] <draik> How do I edit video clips? I want to get a few snipettes of video from some videos I have.
[02:47] <BluesKaj> draik, try avidemux
[02:49] <draik> BluesKaj: I just got rid of all these apps... dvd-slideshow ffmpeg k3b libavcodeccvs51 libavformatcvs51 libfaad0 qdvdauthor transcode
[02:50] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[02:53] <BluesKaj> draik, try tovid and check the dependencies required cuz they also share other video apps : http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[02:54] <Eeyore-Jr> the proper way in aptitude is "sudo aptitude purge <package-name>
[02:54] <draik> BluesKaj: It's ok for now. Would you know how to crop out video with avidemux?
[02:55] <BluesKaj> no draik, sorry :(
[02:56] <Eeyore-Jr> !broadcom
[02:57] <BluesKaj> draik, check this page : http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/doc/en/index.html
[02:58] <drewcipher_> draik:  editing with avidemux can be done right in the UI through the controls.  You should see A/ and /B type icons that allow you to mark the section you want, copy, paste, etc.
[02:59] <draik> Yup
[02:59] <drewcipher_> not working?
[02:59] <draik> Thank you for the link
[02:59] <draik> I was just toying with the app first
[02:59] <drewcipher_> cool
[03:02] <draik> Cool. Got it done!
[03:02] <draik> Thank you BluesKaj
[03:03] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:03] <flaccid> anybody got cisco vpn client compiled against gutsy
[03:05] <flaccid> probably not
[03:05] <Biovore> nope..  close source binary an't it?
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know if it's possible to have a game pad considered input as far as stuff like monitor power saving and Kopete idle time is concerned?
[03:15] <manchicken> !qemu
[03:26] <semistud2354> hey for some reason my usb stick dosnt mount wen i plug it in
[03:26] <semistud2354> i tryed on my windows comp and it didnt work right
[03:26] <semistud2354> it told me to format it
[03:26] <semistud2354> but when i tryed it just messed up
[03:26] <jhutchins> semistud2354: Dead.
[03:26] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, sounds like it went bad
[03:26] <semistud2354> srry didnt mess up...it just said cannot format usb
[03:27] <jhutchins> semistud2354: That's what happens when they die.
[03:27] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, still sounds dead
[03:27] <semistud2354> omg...i just opend it
[03:27] <semistud2354> like
[03:27] <semistud2354> 3 days ago
[03:27] <semistud2354> lol
[03:27] <hitmanWilly> you may want to take it back, then :)
[03:28] <semistud2354> i dunno if this was the thing
[03:28] <semistud2354> but
[03:28] <semistud2354> i had this...easy scandisk....program
[03:28] <semistud2354> that would pop up when i inserted it into my windows omp
[03:28] <semistud2354> comp*
[03:28] <semistud2354> i deleted that...
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> manchicken: seems the bot is dead
[03:28] <semistud2354> you guys think...maby thats why its not workin
[03:29] <manchicken> nosrednaekim: I can't seem to get networking in qemu to work.
[03:29] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, not sure, but i doubt it
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> manchicken: did you install bridge-utils?
[03:29] <manchicken> I'm about to.
[03:30] <manchicken> Never have I seen any docs saying that was the way to go...
[03:30] <semistud2354> dammit.....thanx guys....
[03:30] <manchicken> nosrednaekim: What now?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> manchicken: I think its a recommended package.
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> manchicken: I don't know :) never did it myself
[03:32] <jhutchins> Actually, it could be if he just formatted it it would work.
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> manchicken: sorry.
[03:37] <manchicken> np.  I found a page that has some info
[03:37] <manchicken> http://wiki.freaks-unidos.net/qemu-debian
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> good
[03:39] <manchicken> I may have spoken too soon :)
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> >:D
[03:45] <aaron_> who's got problems with torrents being slow on thier linux machine, where as, they are very fast on thier windows machine? same torrent. same internet connection?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> aaron , are using a router ?
[03:56] <aaron_> BluesKaj: of course. iptables router.
[03:56] <aaron_> yes, ports are forwarded correctly.
[03:56] <aaron_> in widnows, they are fast. same torrent on linux box, slow.
[03:56] <BluesKaj> ktorrent
[03:56] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:56] <aaron_> ktorrent, azureus, utorrent under wine.
[03:57] <aaron_> i've found some other threads and googled some other people with similar problems, but no answers
[03:57] <aaron_> is ktorrent in particular, bad?
[03:58] <BluesKaj> utorrent in wine runs very well too on my setup and ktorrent is about the same
[03:58] <aaron_> i'll have to do some more particular testing later with known fast torrents. (openoffice or something)
[03:59] <aaron_> utorrnet stinks becuase the speedlimits don't work.
[04:00] <flaccid> opera isnt bad for torrents
[04:01] <aaron_> i like ktorrent and azureus
[04:01] <flaccid> i like azureus, but it has problems from time to time
[04:01] <aaron_> it doesn't like ot use it's assigned port.
[04:02] <BluesKaj> azureus is a hog , but some ppl swear by it
[04:02] <aaron_> i always used it in windows until utorrent started working well. that thing is amazing.
[04:02] <flaccid> its ok. i don't think any bt client is near perfect
[04:02] <Azzco> I'm reinstalling feisty and I've ran into some troubles with this install before. grub not working correctly..
[04:03] <flaccid> define not working correctly..
[04:03] <Azzco> Does the installer CD do anythig after it asks you to eject the CD?
[04:03] <Azzco> Displays GRUB then freeze
[04:03] <flaccid> hard freeze?
[04:03] <aaron_> hrm.. ktorrent won't open in gnome.
[04:03] <Azzco> If you mean that only a hard reste fixes it then yes
[04:04] <aaron_> dont' wanna reset :)
[04:04] <flaccid> if grub is configured properly and init is ok then its possible its hardware, otherwise could be anything
[04:04] <Eeyore-Jr> !broadcom
[04:04] <Eeyore-Jr> ! broadcom
[04:04] <bkudria> can some help me set up pam-ssh?  i've followed all the directions in the README.Debian, but I'm prompted for the passphrase each time anyway.  has anyone got this working?
[04:04] <Minataku> Azzco: I've found it adviseable to follow EVERY direction
[04:04] <Eeyore-Jr> !bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:04] <Minataku> Typically, I let it reset itself after it asks you to eject
[04:04] <Azzco> Okay just wondering if it's some final step after the CD ejects as the gutsy install worked perfectly =/
[04:04] <Minataku> !ping
[04:05] <scrubb> I keep getting a SIGSEGV every time KDE starts up.
[04:05] <Minataku> Eeyore-Jr: Give up, it would seem the bot is out of service
[04:05] <scrubb> Could someone help me figure out why?
[04:05] <aaron_> torrent doesn't need a udp port does it?
[04:05] <flaccid> scrubb: try #kde
[04:05] <aaron_> just tcp?
[04:05] <Azzco> Minataku: what do you mean?
[04:05] <Minataku> Azzco: Don't power down the machine yourself after install
[04:05] <Minataku> Let it reset or halt by itself
[04:06] <Azzco> Well it freezes and I left it for half an hour last time
[04:06] <scrubb> Well it's always the Power Manager application that crashes.  Is that part of KDE specifically?
[04:06] <Azzco> Okay I'll do that then, thanks Minataku
[04:06] <Minataku> Once it's halted properly, THEN you can power off/restart
[04:06] <Minataku> Yeah, I ran into a similar issue with some other thing
[04:06] <aaron_> ok. downloading openoffice (FAST torrent) on my 10mbit/1.2mbit cable modem... getting 83kb per second down.
[04:06] <Minataku> When it says to eject, it's typically not done
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: no.. its not. thats devolped by kubuntu
[04:06] <Azzco> I'll watch TTY1 when it's time then :)
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: do you have a laptop?
[04:07] <scrubb> Then I'm in the right channel. =)
[04:07] <Minataku> It follows up with some cleanup afterwards and shuts down normally
[04:07] <scrubb> I suppose I should have specified that from the start.
[04:07] <scrubb> So guidance-power-manager.py crashes at login with a SIGSEGV error.
[04:07] <flaccid> there is no way you can accurately test bt clients... there are too many variables
[04:08] <scrubb> Anybody have any ideas?
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: I think there is a bug by that name actually
[04:08] <flaccid> scrubb: what version of ubuntu
[04:08] <dwidmann_> It's malnourishment. We just didn't feed him enough botsnacks :(
[04:09] <aaron_> flaccid: it's obvious when a torrent downloads at 800kb/second on windows machine, and then change the port to your linux box, and it goes at 80kb per sec.
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> and over work in the ubuntu channel
[04:09] <scrubb> flaccid, feisty
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: try running "guidance-power-manager" from a konsole
[04:10] <scrubb> Nosrednaekim: crashes immediately.
[04:10] <dwidmann_> nosrednaekim: developed by kubuntu, but last I checked it's in kde svn isn't it?
[04:10] <flaccid> aaron_: yes but you are downloading at a dif time with different people sharing with different speeds, etc. you could even close the bt client on windows and resume and not get the large speed again. also the transfer settings for each bt client will be different. if you are using a java client, you need sun java.
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: any error?
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann_: yeah.. thats a qt4 version
[04:10] <flaccid> scrubb: did you try #kde
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann_: but its basically developed by a kubuntu dev.
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> flaccid: its not a problem ith kde
[04:11] <flaccid> how do you know?
[04:11] <flaccid> what is the problem with
[04:11] <aaron_> I've got sun java :)
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> flaccid: cause I know the dev
[04:11] <flaccid> the dev of  what?
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> his name is Lure.
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> of guidance-power-manager
[04:12] <aaron_> are there any linux torrent clients that don't need a gui? use a web interface or something like that?
[04:12] <flaccid> ok if you think its just that then ok cool
[04:12] <scrubb> OK, so I've got a backtrace from KCrash...
[04:12] <flaccid> !info rtorrent
[04:12] <flaccid> yeah rtorrent
[04:12] <flaccid> there are crappy web ones as well
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: pastebin it.
[04:13] <Azzco> Install complete wish my GL with the shutdown ;)
[04:13] <aaron_> heh, don't need one that's crappy. just one to run ON my router.
[04:13] <scrubb> aaron_: Some trackers don't like web-based clients and will ban you.
[04:13] <BluesKaj> Opera browser has a decent torrent client
[04:13] <dwidmann_> it wouild seem ubotu isn't even in the channel. Surprise Surprise
[04:13] <flaccid> rtorrent is good
[04:13] <bkudria> can some help me set up pam-ssh?  i've followed all the directions in the README.Debian, but I'm prompted for the passphrase each time anyway.  has anyone got this working?
[04:13] <aaron_> just looking for something to run on a basically headless server.
[04:13] <flaccid> ubotu isn't on the server either
[04:13] <aaron_> i'll look at rtorrent
[04:13] <flaccid> bkudria: nntr
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> !help
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> !ops
[04:14] <scrubb> !pastebin
[04:14] <bkudria> flaccid: i'm sorry?  what is nntr?
[04:14] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: yes?
[04:14] <flaccid> no need to repeat
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: lol... bot is down look in the channel topic
[04:14] <aaron_> or, www.pastebin.com
[04:14] <bkudria> flaccid: oh. :)
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: bot is gone..
[04:14] <scrubb> I always forget the address. =(
[04:14] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: I know
[04:15] <flaccid> bkudria: google has a lots on it...
[04:15] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: else?
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: can you get ubot3 from the ubuntu channel over here?
[04:15] <bkudria> flaccid: i've searched and tried and expirmented, i still cannot get it to work
[04:15] <Tm_T> not sure
[04:15] <flaccid> bkudria: try #ubuntu and ##linux
[04:16] <Hobbsee> nosrednaekim: ?
[04:16] <bkudria> flaccid: ok, thanks, i'll try
[04:16] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: nothing, move along
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> Hobbsee: Tm_T is taking care of it.. don't orry
[04:16] <scrubb> http://pastebin.com/d696d5d9f
[04:17] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: we'll see it when people wake up
[04:17] <flaccid> scrubb: i'd try purging any packages related and reinstalling them to make sure you got right versions etc.
[04:17] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: thanks for worrying tho ;)
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: ok thanks... :)
[04:18] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: next time maybe come say hello in #ubuntu-ops ;)
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: ok sorry
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> didn't know
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: ok.. odd. search launchpad to see if someone has already files a related bug
[04:19] <scrubb> nosred: what/where is launchpad?
[04:20] <flaccid> google.com reveals sites like launchpad pretty quick on search
[04:20] <flaccid> launchpad.net
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: thats the bug/ development site for ubuntu
[04:23] <LoneShadow> anyone using xosview ?
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> whats that>
[04:23] <LoneShadow> wondering if there is anything better than that
[04:23] <LoneShadow> its a cpu/memory monitor
[04:24] <BluesKaj> launchpad is fine for similar probs as ppl may have but provides absolutely no solutions ...what good does google do by listing it first ...nothing
[04:25] <flaccid> huh
[04:26] <BluesKaj> commiseration is fine , but ppl wanmt solutions to their probs not mere agreement 'yeah i got that prob too'..what good is that
[04:26] <genii> BluesKaj: I agree
[04:27] <BluesKaj> hi genii
[04:27] <scrubb> nosred: checked launchpad site just now.  Nothing relevant under "power manager"
[04:27] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:27] <Angelus> BlueDevil !
[04:27] <Angelus> * BluesKaj
[04:28] <Angelus> oh
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> LoneShadow: try ctrl+esc
[04:29] <BluesKaj> but thx anyway , Angelus :)
[04:29] <Angelus> for nothing dude ;)
[04:29] <sharkbrainguy> I just installed kde/kubuntu over my existing gnome/ubuntu install and in kde using the GIMP right clicking on the image doesn't bring up the usual menu. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:29] <BluesKaj> all my other bandmembers smoke
[04:30] <tazgodx_> anyone know how i can set up a FTP server remotely? i want to set up a FTP server on my mythtv box.
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> sharkbrainguy: hmm let me check that out
[04:30] <scrubb> nosred:  No luck on launchpad so far.  Any ideas?
[04:30] <Angelus> you have a band BluesKaj?
[04:30] <sharkbrainguy> nosrednaekim: cheers
[04:31] <BluesKaj> yeah Angelus , just a bunch of old rockers
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> sharkbrainguy: I get a nice little menu when I right-click
[04:31] <sharkbrainguy> ... hmmm
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> sharkbrainguy: what do you get?
[04:31] <Angelus> nice
[04:31] <sharkbrainguy> nothing
[04:32] <sharkbrainguy> no reaction
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> sharkbrainguy: hmmm
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> wierdness.
[04:32] <sharkbrainguy> crazy huh?
[04:32] <Angelus> i like rock BluesKaj , dough my fav is rap/hiphop/gangsta rap
[04:32] <Angelus> ;p
[04:32] <LoneShadow> nosrednaekim:  found conky, trying out instead
[04:32] <sharkbrainguy> it could be the ati driver I installed
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> I have the ati driver installed too
[04:32] <sharkbrainguy> I was following the principle of "make as many radical changes as I can at once"
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> lol
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> so you can't tell what broke it
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:33] <sharkbrainguy> yeah exactly
[04:33] <sharkbrainguy> the fair test principle only depresses me
[04:33] <sharkbrainguy> everything else works great in the GIMp
[04:33] <BluesKaj> Angelus, i can't identify with that ghetto/gangta/rap...too old :)
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: did you find the bug?
[04:34] <scrubb> Nope.
[04:34] <Angelus> how much old are you then ?
[04:34] <Angelus> 30s ?
[04:35] <flaccid> BluesKaj: people are unrealisticly demanding :(
[04:35] <flaccid> tazgodx_: install something like vsftpd or proftpd would be easiest. should be stuff on the wiki
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: hmm....ok... file a new bug then
[04:35] <genii> I wonder if they're ever demandingly realistic
[04:36] <BluesKaj> heh, 64 Angelus...grandfather / dinosaur drummer
[04:36] <scrubb> In other words, you don't have a clue how to solve it? ;)
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> sharkbrainguy: try reinstalling gimp
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: precisely.
[04:36] <sharkbrainguy> yeah? okay
[04:36] <oem> hi
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> hi
[04:37] <scrubb> Ok.  Well, I have a smaller problem that maybe you know about...
[04:37] <Angelus> wow you're 64 BluesKaj
[04:37] <scrubb> When I start up, the sound only comes out of the right speaker.  As soon as I move the volume slider, it comes out of both.
[04:40] <BluesKaj> <--- Canada, retired labtech guy ...worked with applications computers since 1983
[04:40] <sharkbrainguy> wtf...
[04:41] <scrubb> er disregard the Q
[04:41] <sharkbrainguy> right click menus in Gimp are still non-existent fro me
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> sharkbrainguy: od odd odd
[04:41] <sharkbrainguy> isn't it
[04:41] <Angelus> ah you live in canada BluesKaj , i live on a piece of island in the middle of the mediterenean sea, europe.
[04:42] <sharkbrainguy> maybe I should just do a clean install of kubuntu
[04:42] <sharkbrainguy> I've installed so many random packages
[04:42] <BluesKaj> which island , Angelus ?
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> sharkbrainguy: maybe...
[04:42] <Angelus> BlueDevil:  Malta
[04:42] <genii> According to US weather maps Canada doesn't exist.... we are a big blank space between a nice clean nothern border and the island of Alaska
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: sweet... that thing got really beat up in WW2
[04:42] <Angelus> yeah lol
[04:43] <genii> Yeah more ammo dumped on Maltathan anywhere else
[04:43] <Angelus> but still lives dough ;p
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> its all that limestone I read
[04:43] <BluesKaj> nice , Angelus ...I've chatted with a fella from Malta about audio equipment a few yrs back
[04:43] <Angelus> hehe
[04:43] <namol> ibizia?!
[04:44] <BluesKaj> hehe been watching FoxNews again eh genii :)
[04:44] <scrubb> Question:  Will it do any damage if I uninstall guidance-power-manager?
[04:44] <Angelus> this island survived many wars
[04:44] <genii> BluesKaj: It's like a bad train wreck, I can't look away...
[04:44] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:44] <LoneShadow> In Ubuntu to add a startup program I have to add it under System->Preferences->Sessions, whats the equivalent in KDE/Kubuntu ?
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> LoneShadow, link it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> scrubb: noep.. it won;t
[04:45] <genii> intelikey: Thanks :)
[04:46] <LoneShadow> hitmanWilly: but no other way than editing Autostart ? :)
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> LoneShadow, not that i know of
[04:46] <BluesKaj> k-menu /menu editor will also work , LoneShadow
[04:46] <Angelus> hmm
[04:47] <BluesKaj> oh autostart , sorry ...misread that LoneShadow
[04:47] <Angelus> if i want to install a package from kvirc's site, but i already have kvirc installed from Adept, should i remove this one first?
[04:47] <LoneShadow> not sure what k-menu/menu editor is, I installed KDE-Desktop on Ubuntu. My Menu icons are all messed up
[04:47] <LoneShadow> I dont even get KControl on the Menu :(
[04:48] <Angelus> LoneShadow:  press the big K button on your desktop, right click in the menu and "edit menu"
[04:48] <Angelus> :p
[04:48] <LoneShadow> either my installed failed, or "aptitude install kde-desktop" is having some bugs
[04:48] <LoneShadow> Angelus:  ok that works :D
[04:48] <Angelus> hehe
[04:49] <BluesKaj> LoneShadow, have you installed kubuntu-desktop ?
[04:49] <LoneShadow> BluesKaj: yes
[04:49] <BluesKaj> good
[04:49] <Angelus> BluesKaj: how can i install a kernel from kernel.org on kubuntu ? is it posible ?
[04:49] <flaccid> !kernel
[04:49] <flaccid> dang
[04:50] <LoneShadow> BluesKaj: when I install kubuntu-desktop, am I supposed to see KControl (Control Center?) on the main menu ?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> LoneShadow, its System Settings now, IIRC
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> LoneShadow, though kcontrol is still there
[04:51] <LoneShadow> oh
[04:51] <LoneShadow> yea Kcontrol is there
[04:51] <BluesKaj> LoneShadow, no you have to alt+f2 type kcontrol
[04:52] <LoneShadow> BluesKaj: oh thats the run window. I use terminal :D
[04:52] <LoneShadow> I was thinking the icons/links were messed up
[04:52] <BluesKaj> well, both should work :)
[04:53] <intelikey> i've been in #alsa  trying to raise the volume enough to hear it,   but no joy.
[04:53] <LoneShadow> coz of the Applications on the menu lost icons when I logged in thru KDE
[04:53] <LoneShadow> some*
[04:53] <LoneShadow> had to assign them manually
[04:53] <BluesKaj> intelikey, what about kmix
[04:56] <BluesKaj> weell, sacktime here ..nite all, take care
[04:56] <intelikey> BluesKaj heh  yeah,   well i'd have to install xorg and kde and then kmix would tell me the same thing that alsamixer tells me now.  that the volume controls are ALL AT 100% and not muted.
[04:56] <intelikey> rascal   he was too quick.
[05:03] <Mr_Sonoma> intelikey, out of curiosity what system are you having sound troubles out of?
[05:05] <intelikey> Mr_Sonoma it's new box "to me"  just another junker that someone dumped to everyone else.    it's a short tower case with "i think it's " asus mobo k7 cpu  on board (which i don't like) sound and vidio    sound chip is  sis trident
[05:07] <intelikey> oh and i'm dl'ing oss 4.0  to see if building an oss driver will get it working propperly
[05:07] <intelikey> so lag is high.
[05:07] <flaccid> oss works fine :)
[05:07] <level1> I have a intel quad core processor... does it have HT and is kubuntu taking advantage of it?
[05:07] <flaccid> alsa most likely the problem
[05:10] <intelikey> level1 cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:11] <intelikey> hmmm  maybe it's k6 insted of k7
[05:11] <intelikey> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) processor
[05:12] <intelikey> cpu family      : 6
[05:13] <intelikey> not bad for the price.   $0.00   :)    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39096
[05:14] <byonix>  Hi i use ubuntu feisty, i have just installed kiba dock, kiba dock-dev & kiba plugins, but how to use it, nothing appears when i click kiba dock
[05:24] <intelikey> that oss package  heh   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39097
[05:24] <intelikey> i'd say they are in desprate need of a script
[05:25] <dthacker> oops
[05:29] <intelikey> what! oss requires gtk+      give me a break.
[05:32] <level1> !aptfix
[05:32] <level1> !apt is very broken
[05:32] <level1> :)
[05:32] <level1> I friend of mine broke something on his apt, I think theres a fix for him, does anyone know what it is?
[05:33] <level1> I'll get an error message
[05:33] <intelikey> sudo dpkg -a --configure
[05:34] <dthacker> !iso
[05:34] <dthacker> ! burn iso
[05:34] <dthacker> no ubotu love for me (:
[05:36] <dthacker> anybody got a link to give a new person to tell them how to burn an iso?
[05:36] <dthacker> (I'm answering launchpad questions)
[05:37] <underdog5004> dthacker, I would google for alex feinmans iso recorder and point them towards that.
[05:37] <level1> intelikey: so, he screwed up a compiz install... some how got compiz installed with some of its dependencies, so apt refuses to do anything until its fixed
[05:37] <level1> compiz depends on compiz-decorator; however:  Package compiz-decorator is not installed.
[05:37] <level1> etc
[05:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install -f
[05:37] <dthacker> underdog5004: thank you shoeshine boy.  You are humble and lovable.
[05:40] <banjooie> !dualmonitors
[05:40] <banjooie> I think that's how you do it?
[05:42] <intelikey> banjooie ubotu is `awol'    sorry
[05:43] <banjooie> Okay. At least I'm not just totally illiterate. In that case, uh.
[05:43] <banjooie> I have dual monitors going, but the second one seems to be stuck in 800x600.
[05:43] <level1> intelikey: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:44] <intelikey> level1 and what was the error message ?
[05:45] <intelikey> ok so that sounds counter-intuitive to you.  well it's not.   i.e.   you are reporting the apt error, which is reporting the dpkg error listed higher in the same text.   find the first error message in that output.
[05:45] <level1> intelikey: compiz-plugins: Depends: compiz-core (= 1:0.5.2-0ubuntu2~ppa1) but 1:0.5.3~git20070817+3v1ubuntu0 is to be installed
[05:47] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove compiz-core compiz-plugins          and get the repos streightened out.
[05:47] <intelikey> or don't dl and install packages manually without first dl'ing their deps also.
[05:49] <level1> intelikey: so, apt won't let him remove without unmet dependancies
[05:51] <intelikey> dpkg will  :)
[05:51] <intelikey> sudo dpkg -P --force-all compiz-core compiz-plugins
[05:52] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install -f || dpkg -a --configure
[05:52] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install -f || sudo dpkg -a --configure
[05:52] <intelikey> two sudo's   for the root jr. account please    with a side order of localhost to go.
[05:53] <flaccid> can i get a sudo echo ?
[05:54] <GullyFoyle> lol
[05:54] <flaccid> more or less
[05:57] <intelikey> if you are a root jr. you can
[05:57] <intelikey> :)
[05:57] <ardchoille> Whatever happened to that CNR stuff we were supposed to get from Linspire? Is it available for kubuntu users?
[05:58] <Artimus> ardchoille: You don't get the paid stuff, as far as I know. What's the difference between Click n' Run and Adept?
[06:01] <intelikey> i hate trying to build software.
[06:01] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39098
[06:01] <Artimus> intelikey: Do you have build-essential installed?
[06:01] <ardchoille> Artimus: That difference is actually what I was curious about. And I wouldn't mind the paid stuff if it was actually something I would use.
[06:02] <hacker128> rm
[06:02] <hacker128> hello
[06:02] <Artimus> ardchoille: I'm sure there's Crossover Office, there's a DVD player that no one cares about, Star Office...  That's about it.
[06:03] <hacker128> shred .topsecretgovermentfile
[06:03] <ardchoille> Artimus: I thought there was much more than that.
[06:03] <Artimus> hacker128: Having fun?
[06:03] <GullyFoyle>  lol
[06:03] <Artimus> ardchoille: There's VMWare, but I bet they aren't reselling that.
[06:03] <ardchoille> lol
[06:03] <hacker128> Whoops! Konversation is not bash after all!
[06:03] <davidb___> anyone here run VMWare under Kubuntu / Ubuntu?  I cannot get sound working on the guest operating system - tells me /dev/dsp is busy
[06:03] <hacker128> davidb___: Try qemu
[06:03] <Artimus> davidb___: Do you have alsa-oss emulation setup?
[06:05] <Artimus> davidb___: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=4648&tstart=120
[06:05] <intelikey> ok so you can't use /build/ as a dir for the build cause the script is going to make /build/ and build build in build       they really need a script....
[06:05] <Artimus> intelikey: It gave an error about 'cc'.  Install build-essential.
[06:06] <intelikey> Artimus what's that ?
[06:06] <intelikey> who did ?
[06:06] <Artimus> intelikey: A package with GCC and other programs needed to compile software
[06:06] <Artimus> also, what the heck are you compiling?
[06:06] <hacker128> What if you change the script to build build in ~/build/build
[06:07] <Kr4t05> Hey.
[06:07] <Kr4t05> kB/s = kilobytes or kilobits?
[06:08] <davidb___> artimus: i will check that.
[06:08] <hacker128> Depende
[06:08] <hacker128> S
[06:08] <hacker128> O
[06:08] <hacker128> N
[06:08] <hacker128> W
[06:08] <hacker128> H
[06:08] <hacker128> E
[06:08] <hacker128> T
[06:08] <hacker128> H
[06:08] <hacker128> er
[06:08] <Artimus> hacker128: stop
[06:08] <davidb___> artimus: how would I know if I have that - can I use 'aptitude' to figure out if it's installed?
[06:09] <hacker128> Try synaptix
[06:09] <Artimus> davidb___: It won't hurt to tell it to install twice.
[06:09] <hacker128> Try synaptic
[06:09] <banjooie> So, like. Dual monitors? Anyone?
[06:09] <Artimus> hacker128: Stop giving bad advice.
[06:09] <banjooie> My second one is stuck at 800x600 and I can't seem to change it.
[06:09] <Artimus> davidb___: Otherwise, open up a terminal.  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:11] <rm> hacker128
[06:12] <davidb___> artimus: ok, i have alsa-oss installed?
[06:12] <davidb___> artimus: rather, that's a statement.  now, just try to open up VMWare?
[06:12] <Artimus> davidb___: Did you follow the instructions in the link?  You need to fix a few things.
[06:12] <davidb___> artimus: everythign I've read  has to do w/ stoping arts
[06:12] <stderr> i really hate building software....
[06:12] <Artimus> davidb___: That's generally what I do.
[06:13] <jeffm> hi all, i'm having trouble setting up an FTP server on my lan at home. i just want to send files between machines in the most basic way possible. i get the FTP prompt, but the connection keeps on timing out. do i need to change router settings to allow FTP, even though both computers are on the same lan?
[06:13] <Artimus> I go into the KDE control center, sound, and disable the arts sound system.
[06:13] <davidb___> artimus: ok, lemme check out the thread.  is it just a simple matter of 'killall arts' and then start vmware normally?
[06:13] <stderr> grc3.c: In function 'grc3_convert':
[06:13] <stderr> grc3.c:300: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[06:13] <stderr> Please submit a full bug report,
[06:13] <Artimus> davidb___: Disable the sound system in the KDE Control Center.  Then killall artsd
[06:14] <tim> Hey
[06:14] <tim> Anyone here?
[06:15] <stderr> what gcc built the kernel 2.6.15 ?
[06:15] <stderr> 3.4 ?
[06:17] <davidb___> artimus: sceuse the ignorance, but what/where is the KDE Control Center?
[06:17] <tim> Can anyone help me get my mouse working?
[06:17] <Artimus> davidb___: I'm not sure if you have a shortcut, but the fastest way is KMenu -> Run -> kcontrol
[06:18] <stderr> davidb___ alt+f2 and typd kcontrol
[06:18] <davidb___> artimus: ah, bam.  i got the control center at least.
[06:21] <tim> Can anyone help me get my mouse working?
[06:21] <stderr> what kind of mouse ?
[06:21] <tim> USB Intellimouse, the back/forward buttons don't work
[06:22] <tim> I've tried following the instructions in the forums, but I can't manage to get them working
[06:26] <stderr> nice new error    i really hate building software.    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39100
[06:27] <Artimus> stderr: Install build-essential
[06:27] <stderr> tim what things ?   the instruvtions or the buttons    that you can't get working ?
[06:27] <stderr> Artimus it is intsalled.  told you that while ago
[06:27] <Artimus> stderr: Didn't see that
[06:27] <tim> The buttons
[06:28] <tim> I've edited my xorg.conf, imwheel, created the other file, and changed the permission
[06:28] <stderr> sorry.  it was about the time of my modem reset  so it may not have made it to freenode.
[06:28] <tim> I had it working under Ubuntu, but I switched to Kubuntu and I can't get it to work now.
[06:29] <stderr> tim   and you know that you have to restart xorg for changes in xorg.conf to take affect ?
[06:29] <tim> Yeah
[06:29] <stderr> ok   you don't have the xorg.conf from the other install ??
[06:29] <Gargantua> hi
[06:29] <Gargantua> does kubuntu come as a livecd?
[06:29] <tim> Unfortunately no
[06:29] <stderr> yep Gargantua it do
[06:29] <Gargantua> D:
[06:29] <tim> That wasn't to you Gargantua, it does come as a live cd
[06:30] <Gargantua> ah
[06:30] <Gargantua> lol
[06:30] <Gargantua> http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/
[06:30] <Gargantua> is it there^ ?
[06:30] <tim> Yeah it's the desktop CD
[06:30] <Gargantua> ah
[06:30] <Gargantua> ok
[06:30] <Gargantua> thanks
[06:30] <tim> it boots up as a live cd and you install from there
[06:30] <SpartNux> Hello - I have an issue with Kubuntu - I just did a fresh install and added a bunch of programs with Adept-installer - now after a powered down restart I cannot get adept installer to run - it warns of another instance running and I should shut down that app first. There is now other visible app running - any ideas/ suggestions?
[06:31] <stderr> tim hmm well i don't know what to say.   if you follow the same path you should arrive at the same place.    unless  kcontrol  has some kde specific setting on the mouse.
[06:31] <elpez> Spartnux: look for the process and kill it on ksysguard
[06:31] <tim> Alright, maybe I followed a different thread or something
[06:31] <davidb___> artimus: i get an error stating "artsdsp works only for binaries"
[06:32] <stderr> SpartNux sudo dpkg -a --configure
[06:32] <Artimus> davidb___: Sorry, I've never really tried it.
[06:33] <stderr> does one have to make a link in /lib/modules/   to have the kernel headers setup propperly or somefin ?
[06:33] <davidb___> artimus: aggg!  alrighty, man, i have been hammering my head on this one.  followed a couple dozen threads like this.
[06:34] <Artimus> davidb___: Is arts still running?  ps aux | grep arts
[06:34] <tim> I've got another question.  When I installed I partitioned my HD into a root to install the OS and programs, and another to hold my files.  Right now it's mounted in /Home, is there a way to mount it as just another disk like in Windows?
[06:34] <davidb___> artimus:  thanks for the links + advice though!
[06:34] <davidb___> artimus: just killall'd it.
[06:34] <Artimus> davidb___: You sure I didn't tell you the wrong binary?  I can't remember if it's arts or artsd?
[06:34] <davidb___> artimus: booting the guest OS, so we'll see if it detects my sound adapter.
[06:35] <davidb___> well, i typed in 'artsdsp vmware' like the guy did in the thread.
[06:35] <davidb___> artimus: that's what gave me the error about the binary
[06:35] <Artimus> artsdsp will pipe it through arts.  I suggest using straight up alsa
[06:36] <davidb___> artimus: alsa, what's that?  how would I use that?  i've seen about 6 different drivers/systems for running the sound.  alsa, arts, oss, and a couple others i can't remember off top of head
[06:36] <SpartNux> stderr - "sudo dpkg -a --configure" did the trick - ty
[06:36] <davidb___> artimus: is it a different driver?
[06:37] <N6REJ> does anyone know how to upgrade egroupware1.2 which is include in kubuntu to 1.4?
[06:37] <stderr> SpartNux yw
[06:37] <Artimus> davidb___: Alsa is your main audio drivers.  Arts is a program that runs inbetween your program and alsa.
[06:37] <davidb___> artimus: hope i don't sound too frustrated.  i really do appreciate the advice
[06:37] <stderr> alsa=advanced linux sound arch
[06:38] <stderr> and that's why i'm compiling oss=open source sound
[06:39] <Artimus> stderr: Why would you use OSS anymore?  It's deprecated
[06:39] <stderr> and i really hate compiling things      did i mention that yet ?
[06:39] <Artimus> stderr: *WHY* are you compiling?
[06:39] <stderr> Artimus cause i can't hear alsa
[06:39] <Artimus> stderr: Have you considered fixing that issue?  Rather than incorrectly trying to compile OSS?
[06:39] <stderr> Artimus cause oss 4.0 has no deb
[06:39] <stderr> Artimus how ?
[06:39] <Artimus> stderr: OSS are kernel modules
[06:40] <stderr> yep
[06:40] <Artimus> You would build a custom kernel
[06:40] <Artimus> make menuconfig selects them
[06:40] <davidb___> artimus: i wonder if i need to delete something from within the guest OS (win-blows XP) to get it to recognize the sound....?
[06:40] <Artimus> Why you're trying to compile them is beyond me
[06:40] <Artimus> davidb___: No
[06:40] <stderr> no just the modules.     i've made kernels and did i mention i hate compiling ?
[06:40] <Artimus> stderr: Quit complaining.  Either build a kernel correctly or tell me what's your problem with alsa
[06:42] <davidb___> artimus: one thing, in that thread - it said I had to modify  the /usr/bin/artsdsp file, but my LD_PRELOAD is wrapped around a bunch of if-then-else logic.  i wonder if I have something else causing the wrong LD_PRELOAD line to get run.....
[06:42] <stderr> Either build a kernel correctly or <<<   scuse me.     i shop here all the time.   haven't seen much of you tho
[06:43] <tim> When I installed Kubuntu,I partitioned my HD into a root to install the OS and programs, and another to hold my files.  Right now it's mounted in /Home, is there a way to mount it as just another disk like in Windows?
[06:43] <Artimus> stderr: Alsa is the new standard.  If there's an issue with alsa, it's worth it to resolve it.
[06:44] <bob_> evenin all
[06:45] <tim> Hi bob
[06:45] <flaccid> alsa sux
[06:45] <davidb___> tim: what do you mean?
[06:45] <tim> What's unclear?
[06:45] <davidb___> tim: mount it as another disk?  like, in a differnet locatioN?
[06:46] <tim> In windows I'd have the OS and programs in C:, and my files in D:
[06:46] <davidb___> tim: ok.
[06:46] <davidb___> tim: and, so how is it on your box right now?
[06:46] <tim> In windows I'd have the OS and programs in C:, and my files in D:
[06:47] <bob_> same config here too Tim
[06:47] <bob_> that way when the OS goes south It's a simple reimage and all is well
[06:47] <tim> a  is the OS and programs, and /Home is the files
[06:47] <tim> a  / is the OS and programs, and /Home is the files
[06:47] <tubasoldier> yes, tim. that is how it works
[06:47] <tim> That's not how I want it to work =/
[06:48] <intelikey> Artimus worth it to reslove it ?   yeah that's what i'm trying to do.   resolve the issue  but using something else that "might" work.
[06:48] <davidb___> tim: ok, so you have one partition that you access via '/' and another partition that you access via '/Home'
[06:48] <tim> Yeah
[06:48] <davidb___> tim: and what do you want it to be?
[06:48] <tubasoldier> so you want your files in the root "/" partition as well?
[06:48] <tim> No, I want them in a different disk like windows
[06:48] <Artimus> intelikey: You're trying to install a depricated kernel component with a nonstandard installation procedure on a distribution not known for having an exceptional hacker userbase.
[06:48] <bob_> just mount the other drive
[06:48] <tubasoldier> ok, just assign /dev/hdb as /home
[06:49] <tim> Right it is
[06:49] <tubasoldier> then they are.
[06:49] <tubasoldier> then there are how u want them
[06:49] <tim> I have the two partitions '
[06:49] <intelikey> Artimus correct.   and ?
[06:50] <tim> But instead of "/" and "/Home" being seperate file structures they are in the same tree
[06:50] <tubasoldier> yes. that is how *nix systems work.
[06:50] <tim> Is there a way to make it not work like that?
[06:50] <intelikey> tim all file systems are in the same tree
[06:50] <tubasoldier> yeah. use windows
[06:50] <davidb___> tim: ok, so if I get you correct, you *want* two partitions on the physical disk - partition A, and partition B.
[06:50] <tubasoldier> linux is not windows. there is no reason to make them seperate like that.
[06:51] <Artimus> intelikey: And no one is likely to help you, instead of saying you hate compiling & posting output, you could just make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install and be done.
[06:51] <davidb___> tim: you currently have this - partition A is accessed by / and partition B is access by /Home - correct?
[06:51] <tim> Yeah
[06:51] <tim> tuba- Sure there is.  Data files and Program files should be seperate
[06:51] <tubasoldier> tim. they are.
[06:51] <intelikey> make: *** No rule to make target `bzImage'.  Stop.
[06:51] <intelikey> like that ?
[06:52] <intelikey> :)
[06:52] <davidb___> tim: and you want what, for partition A to be access by the directory 'xxx' (fill in 'xxx' with what you want) and partition B is access by 'yyy' (fill in 'yyy' with the directory you want)
[06:52] <intelikey> if i'm bothering you Artimus,  just overlook me for a few minutes.    i'll be don't soon
[06:52] <tim> You know how partitions are done in Windows?
[06:52] <Artimus> intelikey: What folder are you in?
[06:53] <tim> They show up as seperate disks in explorer
[06:53] <tubasoldier> Tim: it does not matter if they appear to be under the same tree they are not really. If you set them up as one disk or partition for / and one for /home then yoru os and files
[06:53] <tubasoldier> are seperate
[06:53] <tubasoldier> yes tim.
[06:53] <tubasoldier> that is NOT how things work in the linux filesystem
[06:53] <tim> Fair enough
[06:53] <davidb___> tim: what's your confusion.  that's what I"m trying to understand here.  you have two physically separate partitions currently, is this what you want?
[06:53] <bob_> ahh he wants to assign a logical drive letter to his partiton in linux... don't think you can do that Tim...
[06:54] <tubasoldier> everything, including other disks, are all mounted under /
[06:54] <intelikey> Artimus the build dir for the package   but it's built  (did i mention i hate building things?)  and installed   and i'm playing with the settings.   @ Artimus
[06:54] <Artimus> intelikey: bzImage works a bit better in /usrc/src/KERNELVERSION :P
[06:54] <davidb___> tubasoldier: what about the drive I have mounted under /opt?
[06:55] <intelikey> Artimus but i don't have the source installed  and i'm not downloading it today.
[06:55] <davidb___> tim: don't think you got your question answered.  sounds like you are Ok w/ your current setup, I think.  not sure though - never heard back
[06:56] <Artimus> intelikey: Oh...  I'm not familiar with the kernel source, but it might be trying to find files outside of its folder in the kernel source...
[06:56] <tim> It's just a slight annoyance because they are seperate partitions
[06:56] <sparr> will i encounter any problems installing without a keyboard?
[06:56] <intelikey> like i said i don't have the kernel source installed
[06:58] <tim> sparr- you have to input a login/pw among other things
[06:58] <tim> pretty sure you need a keyboard for that
[06:58] <x86__> HI. I need to delete some DLL's of my windows installation. But it shows that im not authorizated to do it .
[06:58] <x86__> located  @ "/media/hda1/WINDOWS/system32"
[06:58] <Pali> i have problem with my webcam. I cant find driver. lsusb: "ID 0c45:612a Microdia" This webcam has chip "Sonix sn9c325AFG" I try drivers gspca, sn9c1xx but this drivers not function. Which driver have I use?
[06:59] <davidb___> gnight all
[07:00] <bob_> nite David
[07:00] <bob_> I'm off to bed as well... GL all in workin out the bugs
[07:01] <intelikey> hmmmm   well now what.
[07:01] <intelikey> oss works just exactly like alsa did
[07:01] <intelikey> i still can't hear it unless i put my ear upon the speaker
[07:02] <x86__> also i cant delete some files located @ my others partitions
[07:02] <Artimus> intelikey: Do you have both Master *AND* PCM turned up?
[07:02] <intelikey> Artimus yeah i'm not a beginner.
[07:02] <intelikey> infact everything is at 100%
[07:02] <intelikey> and not muted.
[07:03] <jhutchins> intelikey: Check the connections.  Check the balance, try moving it off center.
[07:03] <Artimus> intelikey: Do you have a separate headphone jack?  Try plugging into that, that's amplified.
[07:03] <jhutchins> There is at least one configuration out there where the sound cancells if the ballance is centerd.
[07:04] <intelikey> Artimus no.
[07:04] <Artimus> intelikey: Strange soundcard?
[07:05] <intelikey> Artimus maybe.  onboard sis trident    uses ac97-codec
[07:05] <Pali> i have problem with my webcam. I cant find driver. lsusb: "ID 0c45:612a Microdia" This webcam has chip "Sonix sn9c325AFG" I try drivers gspca, sn9c1xx but this drivers not function. Which driver have I use?
[07:05] <Artimus> intelikey: Check out the alsa soundcard matrix.  It might have some information
[07:07] <intelikey> Artimus i spent 2 or 3 hours in #alsa   final answer   try  oss    tried it now.    it really looks like this may be a hardware issue.
[07:07] <Artimus> intelikey: Are you sure the speakers are good?
[07:07] <intelikey> yes i'm sure of the speakers
[07:09] <intelikey> i guess i could build a pre-amp   i have the parts on hand.
[07:09] <Noldoaran> is there a way to find out what kind of motherboard I have?
[07:09] <flaccid> intelikey: does it work with other OS / live cd ?
[07:09] <flaccid> Noldoaran: sudo apt-get install lshw | sudo lshw
[07:09] <intelikey> just wish there was an isa slot on this board
[07:10] <Artimus> intelikey: I've got a Soundblaster 32AWE.  It's a beautiful card...
[07:10] <flaccid> coz if you havnt proven it works with another OS boot, then it could be the jack/connector or yeah any hardware down the line to the speakers
[07:10] <Noldoaran> thanks flaccid
[07:10] <flaccid> np
[07:11] <intelikey> flaccid don't really have anything handy to test it with in that reguard.      ummm i guess i could take an ide drive out of another box that has win95  but it might take legislation to make that card work in win95  and just for a test...
[07:11] <flaccid> 1/8inch trs jacks are infamous for being 'patchy' ie. you can't get both sides going
[07:11] <x86__> ntfs-config
[07:11] <flaccid> how about a live cd of some sort
[07:11] <intelikey> Artimus i've got two or three good sound cards.  with real hardware midi support   but they are isa.
[07:11] <Artimus> yeah, that's what my AWE is
[07:12] <intelikey> flaccid i have the livecd of the os i'm running   lol
[07:12] <flaccid> i would be trying with a gentoo live cd
[07:12] <intelikey> this box has three pci slots   and that's it.
[07:12] <intelikey> flaccid you would have dsl or cable   i'm on dialup
[07:13] <intelikey> care to kick that off the cliff and see where it lands   :)
[07:14] <Artimus> intelikey: Might be worth looking into a cheap PCI soundcard.
[07:14] <intelikey> i'll pay one price for it.   $0.00
[07:14] <intelikey> :)
[07:14] <intelikey> that's what i've got in this box so far
[07:17] <Noldoaran> I don't know much about hardware.. Can i get an nVidia card for my PC, when I already have a intel graphics chipset?
[07:17] <x86__> gksu
[07:17] <intelikey> Noldoaran should be able to  yes
[07:17] <intelikey> x86__ kdesu
[07:18] <Noldoaran> will the intel chipset just be disabled? or do they both function?
[07:18] <intelikey> gksudo is gah no me
[07:18] <sparr> i used fdisk to make partition table changes and write them.  then i rebooted.  now fdisk sees the new table, but the ubuntu installer still sees the old one.  whats up with that?
[07:18] <intelikey> Noldoaran can be either way.  depends on how you set it up    in most cases
[07:19] <Noldoaran> oh..
[07:19] <flaccid> intelikey: any friends to help in person with cd or net to d/l?
[07:19] <intelikey> some have to have "dual head"  some care not for more than one monitor
[07:20] <intelikey> flaccid not close
[07:20] <x86__> whats the equivalent for "gedit" for Kubunru?
[07:21] <Noldoaran> kate
[07:21] <intelikey> flaccid you know where the middle of nowhere is ?    well i'm down that trail another 42 miles
[07:21] <intelikey> x86__ well the == would kedit   but you probably want kate
[07:22] <dwidmann_> kate > gedit
[07:22] <Noldoaran> hm.. i don't have kedit, I have kwrite though
[07:22] <ardchoille> kate rocks!
[07:23] <Noldoaran> i agree
[07:23] <x86__> Thanks.
[07:23] <intelikey> Noldoaran yeah i don't think kedit is standard with kubuntu   i think installing   kde  will install kedit though  iirc
[07:24] <sauvin> kate is the cream filling in my boston creme pastries!
[07:24] <Noldoaran> hmm
[07:24] <elpez> what makes kate so great?
[07:25] <intelikey> i've actually used kate about three or four times   it's ok.  just slow is all.
[07:25] <Pali> i have problem with my webcam. I cant find driver. lsusb: "ID 0c45:612a Microdia" This webcam has chip "Sonix sn9c325AFG" I try drivers gspca, sn9c1xx but this drivers not function. Which driver have I use?
[07:25] <dwidmann_> the glistening little sprinkles of awesomeness dispersed throughout it.
[07:27] <dwidmann_> session management? konsole kpart? insane customizability? split view? The reasons go on and on. ....
[07:27] <intelikey> Pali i don't know.    there doesn't seem to be any other choice in the kernel
[07:28] <intelikey> dwidmann_ konsole kpart? ???
[07:28] <dwidmann_> it's there, usable, and handy.
[07:29] <Pali> intelikey: where I find informations?
[07:29] <dwidmann_> pull up kate and look along the bottom. You'll see it.
[07:29] <intelikey> dwidmann_ i'll pass.  i'd have to install xorg and kde
[07:29] <dwidmann_> intelikey: that's where live cds come in handy
[07:30] <intelikey> well that would take a reboot and i've done that today.
[07:30] <dwidmann_> indeed, it does involve resetting your uptime
[07:31] <tim> Is there a restricted drivers manage in Kubuntu?
[07:33] <intelikey> Pali normally i get 30 to 2000 thousand matches for a single word/string on google    "   Your search - sn9c325AFG - did not match any documents. "
[07:34] <intelikey> tim the one in ubuntu.   check the repos
[07:35] <tim> I found the restricted package, is it in there?
[07:35] <intelikey> basicly ubuntu is ubuntu is ubuntu   if it's in  any *buntu it's in all of them   the only thing that changes are the packages installed by default and the system configurations files may be somewhat tweeked to reflect the default packaging
[07:36] <intelikey> i don't know what the package is called   maybe someone else does
[07:37] <genefitz> I thought the restricted driver management was built into all ubuntu distros.
[07:37] <genefitz> After you have installed the restricted driver, it should let you know, and bring up the restricted driver management,
[07:38] <genefitz> But then again, I use ubuntu for Gnome and Freespire for KDE
[07:41] <firegodz> does anybody know how to use software like vnc on ubuntu ?
[07:43] <dwidmann_> firegodz: I've found krdc and krfb to be pretty easy to use
[07:44] <tim> Ok, I installed the restricted drive manager but I can't find it =/
[07:44] <intelikey> dwidmann_ i've never messed with those do you have to have kde on both boxes ?
[07:45] <dwidmann_> intelikey: Umm, on at least one of the boxes, you can probably use a different vnc client instead.
[07:46] <dwidmann_> one of those is the client and the other the server, uses vnc
[07:46] <intelikey> tim konsole enter the package name hit the tab key and see if the executable shows up...     or  kdpk -l <package name> | grep bin/
[07:47] <firegodz> i am using ubuntu on one box and want to connect to a windows box
[07:47] <elpez> i have used vnc on a windows as a server being accessed by multiple kde machines using krdc.
[07:47] <elpez> Very easily
[07:47] <firegodz> going to try it now thx guys
[07:48] <intelikey> read the docs on it.    use  find /usr/ -iname *part_of_the_name*                or slocate   or....
[07:48] <tim> ok I got it thanks
[07:48] <intelikey> :)
[07:48] <elpez> night ppl
[07:48] <jmusic_man> hey all
[07:48] <dwidmann_> night elpez
[07:49] <jmusic_man> I haven't IRC'd in like, 20 years... lol
[07:49] <jmusic_man> er... 10
[07:49] <jmusic_man> typo =/
[07:49] <intelikey> well 20 would have been steaching it pretty tight  :)
[07:49] <jmusic_man> hehe
[07:49] <jmusic_man> I would have been 2
[07:49] <jmusic_man> ;P
[07:50] <intelikey> so would the internet
[07:50] <File13> anyone have any experience with rt73 chipset USB cards on kubuntu
[07:50] <intelikey> :)
[07:50] <dwidmann_> lol
[07:50] <jmusic_man> thought I'd give Kubuntu a try, so I'm running a pcbox next to my iMac here
[07:50] <jmusic_man> enjoying it so far
[07:51] <jmusic_man> wish I was more familiar w/ the shell commands though
[07:51] <dwidmann_> takes time and  practice, worth it though.
[07:51] <jmusic_man> really seems so
[07:51] <intelikey> !cli
[07:51] <intelikey> bot is still awol
[07:51] <c0mp13371331337> jmusic - man pages are your friend!
[07:51] <jmusic_man> neat to see how supportive/helpful the linux community is though
[07:52] <top18> hi
[07:52] <intelikey> the tab key is your ...
[07:52] <dwidmann_> I still think it was malnourishment, just haven't been feeding ubotu enough bot snacks as of late :(
[07:52] <flaccid> !flaccidsnack
[07:52] <dwidmann_> crutch? poison?
[07:52] <jmusic_man> not sure what you mean c0mp =(
[07:52] <firegodz> FireGodz is away
[07:52] <intelikey> jmusic_man    man man
[07:53] <intelikey> in a terminal
[07:53] <dwidmann_> man woman?
[07:53] <intelikey> sorry no man page for woman
[07:53] <top18> do somebody speak german
[07:53] <top18> ?
[07:54] <jmusic_man> nein
[07:54] <intelikey> top18 in #kubuntu-de
[07:54] <top18> thx
[07:54] <intelikey> top18 or in #ubuntu-de    both
[07:54] <c0mp13371331337> Most commands have man(ual) pages that you can open in a terminal by typing 'man (command)'.  For example, to see the different options and usage for 'cp' (copy and paste command) type 'man cp'.  When you're done reading, hit 'q'.
[07:54] <jmusic_man> oh wow
[07:55] <jmusic_man> great tip
[07:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> jmusic_man: i would definitely recommend you check some other linux "communities" before doing a blanket judgement based on us :P
[07:55] <jmusic_man> haha, and noted Daisuke
[07:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> some distros' 'support' consists of RTFM and abuse to new users
[07:55] <intelikey> jmusic_man /join #debian   and ask something stupid
[07:55] <intelikey> :)
[07:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> and this is why i chose *ubuntu
[07:56] <c0mp13371331337> Heh heh heh.... Do you speak from experience, intelikey?
[07:56] <jmusic_man> heh, I'm afraid to even try that intel ;P
[07:56] <c0mp13371331337> ;-)
[07:56] <intelikey> :)
[07:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> (ubuntu on my laptop, kubuntu on the desktop, and my girlfriend's running xp on her laptop [but i still love her anyway] )
[07:57] <intelikey> they wont chew you out.   they'll just chew out around you and let you fall out....
[07:57] <jmusic_man> ouch
[07:58] <dwidmann_> man -k [insert search term here] , search through man pages :)
[07:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> if it's like communities i've seen, they will do everything they can to make you feel like they're gods and you don't know anything.
[07:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> belittling is a favourite trick
[07:58] <jmusic_man> heh, alot of good resources available if you know the shell commands
[07:59] <intelikey> true dat
[07:59] <jmusic_man> and I notice that you spelled favourite with a 'u' Daisuke - Canadian?
[07:59] <intelikey> jmusic_man did you run     man man     ?
[07:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> jmusic_man: no, american, i just prefer using proper spelling :)
[07:59] <intelikey> you really should.    learn about searching inside the man pages and such.
[08:00] <jmusic_man> hehe, Canadian here, so I took notice - and yes Intel - just ran that command
[08:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> touch;unzip;grep;mount...  i'm not going any further than that
[08:00] <intelikey> jmusic_man there is also    info info     :)
[08:01] <jmusic_man> merciful zeus
[08:01] <dwidmann_> and if you don't like the look of the shell, you can use konqueror, pull it up and in the address bar put in 'man:/someprogramname' (ie: man:/man) and you can look at those that way too
[08:01] <jmusic_man> haha
[08:01] <intelikey> although i'm a man's man   some people do much prefer info pages
[08:01] <flaccid> also apt:/search in konqi
[08:01] <jmusic_man> the shell brings me back to the days where I used to MOO on the Freenet
[08:02] <jmusic_man> but that's as hardcore as I got - rofl
[08:02] <flaccid> m0000
[08:02] <jmusic_man> wow
[08:02] <jmusic_man> I didn't know konqueror was so versatile
[08:02] <intelikey> m8
[08:02] <jmusic_man> thought it was more like WIndows Explorer
[08:02] <intelikey> ):
[08:02] <flaccid> lol. konq is khtml. it kills trident..
[08:02] <petitout> hi, sorry I<m kindda new at this so my question might seem lame but still, i<m having trouble uninstalling a previous version of flex under MCE and was wondering if someone could help
[08:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> jmusic_man: konqueror exemplifies an old saying: "Jack of all trades, master of none."
[08:03] <jmusic_man> noted, Daisuke ;P
[08:03] <intelikey> mce ?
[08:03] <petitout> linux MCE under Kubuntu
[08:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> that said, i do prefer it to nautilus or dolphin for now
[08:04] <petitout> or over if you prefer
[08:04] <jmusic_man> is it then my understanding that every Linux App can run in Command Line mode as well as with a GUI?
[08:04] <dwidmann_> Daisuke_Laptop: but isn't it the master of kparts?
[08:04] <dwidmann_> jmusic_man: not all, just some
[08:04] <jmusic_man> I see
[08:04] <jmusic_man> still neat that konqueror can do the man thing
[08:05] <jmusic_man> ;p
[08:05] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, Konqy is a pretty capable web browser. It's about as "masterful" as others out there...
[08:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> and that view may come from the fact that a lot of linux gui apps are merely front-ends to cli apps
[08:05] <intelikey> jmusic_man well    maybe all.      depends on how you define " in Command Line mode "
[08:05] <dwidmann_> it can also do thing such as locate, transparently access tar or zip archives, search apt, and many other things.
[08:06] <jmusic_man> what would you say is the best way of listing running processes? I found out about the 'top' program earlier
[08:06] <intelikey> pstree
[08:06] <jmusic_man> (hehe - multiple questions out of the blue, I know)
[08:06] <jmusic_man> lemme try that one intel
[08:06] <intelikey> but most wont agree with me
[08:06] <dwidmann_> jmusic_man: if you press ctrl + escape it will bring up kde system guard (the performance monitor)
[08:07] <dwidmann_> or how about htop?
[08:07] <intelikey> i don't like top cause i can't see them all
[08:07] <NickPresta> gah. I wanted to install tomboy but 32 new apps and 54MB of additional downloads doesn't seem too friendly
[08:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> !tomboy
[08:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh
[08:08] <intelikey> ubotu is "awol"
[08:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's right, the bot's emaciated and on strike
[08:09] <NickPresta> I'm happy with Basket, I suppose. I just wanted to try Tomboy...
[08:09] <dwidmann_> intelikey: I hadn't heard of pstree before, it's pretty nice, thanks for point it out
[08:09] <intelikey> i'm a little tic'd  it was in #ubuntu some hours ago while #kubuntu still didn't have it...   but last i checked it wasn't in #ubntu anymore either.
[08:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> desktop note-taking program using wiki style links
[08:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> i assume that means http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=link
[08:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> bleh!
[08:10] <intelikey> dwidmann_ it does have some really nice switchs too
[08:10] <petitout> is there a newbie channel somewhere where i could get some more basic help?
[08:10] <se7en^Of^9> does someone know of a good Scrabble game on linux
[08:10] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomboy_%28software%29
[08:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> i can't even do that because konversation converts that to a wikipedia link :\
[08:10] <dwidmann_> intelikey: first one I dived for was -p, of course
[08:10] <NickPresta> petitout, what do you need help with? We don't mind helping newbies.
[08:10] <intelikey> petitout can you be more specific abount what you want ?
[08:11] <intelikey> dwidmann_ of course :)
[08:11] <petitout> k Ill try
[08:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> i was trying to show the (double left square bracket)link(double right square bracket) wiki-style link
[08:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> but konversation understands and messes that up
[08:12] <petitout> I installed flex-2.5.31 when i should have installed flex-2.5.33 now i can<t seem to be able to uninstall the previous version
[08:12] <petitout> i did it all in console mode
[08:13] <intelikey> petitout apt-get remove ?
[08:13] <intelikey> petitout dpkg -P ?
[08:13] <NickPresta> !away | sepeck
[08:13] <intelikey> petitout or is it rpm based ???    rpm -e ?
[08:13] <NickPresta> lack of ubot makes me sad =(
[08:13] <File13> perhaps i prefer ubuntu over kubuntu
[08:14] <petitout> i did everything from KOnsole
[08:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> File13: purely a matter of preference
[08:14] <intelikey> petitout do you know any command you issued ?
[08:14] <intelikey> even part of it ?
[08:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> File13: i use both, depending on the machine
[08:14] <petitout> configure
[08:14] <File13> i dled the nvid driver and it seems to have messed things up
[08:14] <petitout> make
[08:14] <intelikey> petitout ah   source
[08:14] <File13> i never had this problem on ubuntu
[08:14] <intelikey> ok
[08:15] <petitout> sudo make install
[08:15] <intelikey> petitout in the build dir you need to do      make uninstall
[08:15] <intelikey> sudo   that of course
[08:15] <petitout> that<s my problem cant find the build dir
[08:16] <petitout> does it install automatically somewhere?
[08:16] <intelikey> then you may have to get the origenal source code and build it again to remove it...
[08:16] <intelikey> did i mention that i hate compiling source...
[08:16] <File13> what do i push to relaunch X in kubuntu
[08:16] <dwidmann_> intelikey: you're not alone in that
[08:17] <petitout> sorry i<m so new it"s depressing
[08:17] <dwidmann_> File13: I'd type "startx" and press enter
[08:17] <intelikey> File13 is it running ?
[08:17] <File13> yeah but i just installed a different nvid driver
[08:17] <File13> should i just restart instead
[08:17] <intelikey> File13 if it's running    crtl+alt+backspace
[08:18] <petitout> thx intelikey
[08:19] <se7en^Of^9> does someone know of a good Scrabble game on linux
[08:20] <petitout> ok so now i<m getting a permission denied
[08:20] <petitout> on the make uninstall from build dir
[08:20] <intelikey> petitout welcome.   and from now on   you should try to remember to finish your builds with    "make clean ;Q=$(basename `pwd`) ;cd .. ;tar -czf blahuninstaller.tgz $Q"
[08:22] <petitout> and that does what exactly?
[08:22] <intelikey> let me translate that from geek to intelikeish for you.   make clean removes the .h or .o files you made and the Q variable is set the the name of the dir you are in so you can use that info in the command to make an archive file of the source you just built    and name it blahuninstaller.tgz
[08:24] <intelikey> then you save blahuninstaller.tgz somewhere you can find it if you ever need to uninstall blah      (translate blah to flex in this case)
[08:24] <josiah> !nvidia
[08:24] <josiah> hmm... how do you pull up nvidia installation instructions link?
[08:24] <intelikey> petitout in short.  "save the source you build"
[08:24] <petitout> k thx kindda leaving markers or breadcrumbs
[08:25] <dwidmann_> intelikey: about what I was saying about kate earlier, this is what I meant: http://images.xnowherex.net/random/kate.png
[08:25] <intelikey> josiah the bot is 'awol'
[08:25] <stdin> josiah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:26] <petitout> inelikey thx very much i<ll do that
[08:26] <josiah> ok thanks guys
[08:26] <NickPresta> is ubot still upset at #kubuntu?
[08:27] <dwidmann_> NickPresta: it would seem us kubuntu folk haven't been feeding him enough botsnacks :(
[08:27] <NickPresta> =D
[08:27] <jmusic_man> well, I'm off for the night (or morning... it is 2am)
[08:28] <jmusic_man> thanks for the info
[08:28] <dwidmann_> night jmusic_man
[08:28] <jmusic_man> I'll be back - even just reading conversation is helpful
[08:31] <intelikey> dwidmann_ ok.     and you need a terminal inside of an editor for ???
[08:32] <intelikey> sorry i'm just trying to see how that is useful
[08:32] <dwidmann_> intelikey: comes in handy when I need to build or test things. Asides from that I find other uses for it. What's really sad is when I have vim open inside of it ... That's always fun.
[08:34] <dwidmann_> handy little trick that it and konqueror both have is that as you (keeping this in the kate context for now) switch to a different file, it cds to the other files directory, so that too can come in handy too, that way I'm not manually cding all over the place
[08:35] <intelikey> dwidmann_ yeah. and you can desync them if you like.
[08:35] <intelikey> depends on the use.
[08:36] <neusonce> sup guys, can anybvody remind of the name of the program  that  dose a proper format on youre computer at startup ?
[08:37] <josiah> ok this guide is telling me to goto: System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager. There isnt a Administration to goto :). What do I do?
[08:37] <intelikey> i don't know to my mentality (am i mental?)   that's still reinventing the wheel.  i have as many consols as i need...
[08:37] <intelikey> @ dwidmann_
[08:37] <dwidmann_> josiah: it seems to be referring to ghome
[08:37] <dwidmann_> *gnome
[08:38] <josiah> dwidmann_: so what would the equivalent be fore kde?
[08:38] <dwidmann_> I don't think there is one, but you could track down and install the package, I'm not sure which one it is.
[08:38] <josiah> ok ty
[08:38] <intelikey> neusonce could you define "proper format" please
[08:39] <NickPresta> !hi | ubotu
[08:39] <dwidmann_> intelikey: true enough, but it is sometimes handy to have it right there without having to switch back and forth between windows IMO. That and that it's always (well, usually) in the right directory. I like it anyway
[08:39] <ubotu> ubotu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:40] <NickPresta> yay
[08:40] <dwidmann_> :O
[08:40] <dwidmann_> The bot's back!
[08:40] <NickPresta>  /feedsnack
[08:40] <dwidmann_> !botsnack
[08:40] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:40] <intelikey> dwidmann_ k  fair enough.   oprative word   You like it    so that's enough :)
[08:41] <flaccid> wb ubotu
[08:41] <intelikey> popcorn anyone  ?
[08:42] <dwidmann_> Sure, why not
[08:42] <josiah> !nvidia
[08:42] <dwidmann_> josiah: it looks like the package is called "restricted-manager"
[08:43] <Tabmows> when i change my desktop resolution in kde it always defaults back to 1024x768 when i log back in.. how can i save this?
[08:43] <intelikey> oh that's a script you might find interesting.
[08:44] <josiah> well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia isnt working... any other ideas?
[08:44] <dwidmann_> intelikey: I hope so, what does it do?
[08:44] <stdin> josiah: not working? what part is not working?
[08:44] <josiah> it tells me to goto system -> administration and there isnt an administration :)
[08:45] <stdin> josiah: read it, it says what to do for kubuntu
[08:45] <intelikey> dwidmann_ the name says it all
[08:45] <josiah> i know.. then it says the same thing
[08:45] <intelikey> you can pipe into it   or it will read a file and pastebin it
[08:45] <intelikey> requires curl
[08:45] <intelikey> !info curl
[08:46] <stdin> no bot
[08:46] <intelikey> poor bot
[08:46] <intelikey> she was here a minute ago
[08:46] <intelikey> he
[08:46] <intelikey> it
[08:46] <dwidmann_> okay, I've got curl installed
[08:46] <intelikey> ???
[08:46] <neusonce>  well when i reinstall  everything in kununtus fine for a while then the bugs  just  hinder me at every corner   suddenly   im unable to  download any of the repositories  even thought there is no valid reason why  java   chouse when to works and wine has dissapaered from my menus all thogether  even thought wine programs still work   so i want to wipe every thing from my hdd  so its clean  like new and then install kubuntu
[08:47] <dwidmann_> You were right, we practically chased ubotu out :( poor ubotu
[08:48] <neusonce> grrrrrrrrr
[08:49] <neusonce> typing to fast
[08:50] <dwidmann_> intelikey: thanks for the script, seems to work fine when piping, didn't seem to like reading from a file though ..... so "cat file | ./pastebin" it is eh?
[08:51] <intelikey> ./pastebin filename    works for me...
[08:51] <dwidmann_> it seems it worked for me too, however, the command didn't die & give me the url afterwards, but I see it in the pastebin. Odd.
[08:52] <intelikey> yeah....    hmmm
[08:54] <dwidmann_> Unless I ctrl+c'd it too soon, but I don't think I did.
[08:54] <petitout> intelikey in that command line you gave me earlier what does basename'pwd' do or stand for?
[08:55] <BetaTester> Hi all. Can somebody tell why this is not working for me: "oowriter -pt PrinterName FileName" I get an error
[08:56] <BetaTester> According to the manual and google this should be working if you dont have ati drivers installed :(
[08:56] <flaccid> what is the error
[08:57] <BetaTester> flaccid WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[08:57] <BetaTester> I read on google and it says some ati related problmes. However oowriter myfile opens correctly
[08:57] <BetaTester> the problem is in -pt printername :(
[08:57] <flaccid> !find oowriter
[08:58] <flaccid> where is oowriter from
[08:58] <BetaTester> ooffice
[08:58] <BetaTester> it should be same as ooffice -writer -pt printer file
[08:58] <neusonce>  can anybody tell me the advanatges  suse has over kubuntu
[08:58] <flaccid> i think you might need to ask them
[08:59] <flaccid> BetaTester: you read all these yet? http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=oowriter+WARNING+**:+Unknown+error+forking+main+binary+/+abnormal+early+exit&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[09:00] <kraut> moin
[09:00] <intelikey> petitout not basename'pwd'    Q="$(basename `pwd`)"     if you run that in a konsole and then run   echo $Q    it will tell the name of the dir you are in.  it sets the variable Q to that name so the command that follows can use it.
[09:00] <BetaTester> I will check it flaccid
[09:01] <flaccid> isn't pwd suffice?
[09:01] <intelikey> petitout i pulled Q out of my hat  could be anything   zippit_do_dah="$(basename `pwd`)"       but what ever var you set that way holds the last word of the pwd==present working dirrectory.
[09:02] <flaccid> mydir=`pwd`
[09:03] <intelikey> flaccid no.  don't want the path  just the dir name
[09:03] <stdin> intelikey: Q=$(basename $PWD)
[09:03] <flaccid> ah sorry
[09:03] <petitout> cause it didn't work with the ''
[09:03] <intelikey> stdin assumes PWD is set.   shell might not hage it set
[09:03] <intelikey> have
[09:03] <stdin> intelikey: bash will, and yes, I'm assuming he'll be using bash
[09:04] <intelikey> petitout no  '' not equal ``
[09:04] <intelikey> stdin yes i know.   :)
[09:04] <flaccid> basename `pwd`
[09:04] <intelikey> yep
[09:05] <petitout> what i meant is i wrote the exact command line and followed the results and the make clean worked fine but i had an error after that
[09:05] <intelikey> petitout do you still have the entire line i posted so these guys know what it was about ?
[09:05] <flaccid> mypath=$(basename `pwd`)
[09:05] <petitout> yup
[09:05] <petitout>  petitout welcome.   and from now on   you should try to remember to finish your builds with    "make clean ;Q=$(basename `pwd`) ;cd .. ;tar -czf blahuninstaller.tgz $Q"
[09:05] <intelikey> petitout and i could have "typo'd"   i think i still hold the title on that...
[09:06] <petitout>  make clean removes the .h or .o files you made and the Q variable is set the the name of the dir you are in so you can use that info in the command to make an archive file of the source you just built    and name it blahuninstaller.tgz then you save blahuninstaller.tgz somewhere you can find it if you ever need to uninstall blah      (translate blah to flex in this case)
[09:06] <intelikey>  the the == to the   one typo
[09:07] <fkm> As far as my mouse is concerned. Is there any differencs between XFree86 and Xorg? I found a nice tutorial on how to set up the thumbbuttons of my Logitech MX500 (http://www.glaurung.demon.co.uk/info/linux.mx500.howto.html). But it's for XFree86 and I don't want to mess up my system.
[09:07] <flaccid> yes there are big differences fkm. ubuntu uses xorg
[09:08] <flaccid> fkm: i think the stanzas in that doc will work with xorg
[09:09] <intelikey> petitout ok i was just a little sloppy there.  i should have quoted the dirname   other than that it works exactly as posted.
[09:09] <fkm> flaccid: Ok, thank you. I'll give it a try then :)
[09:09] <flaccid> fkm: yeah try that Input section in xorg.conf
[09:09] <intelikey> should have said>>>   make clean ;Q="$(basename `pwd`)" ;cd .. ;tar -czf blahuninstaller.tgz "$Q"
[09:10] <intelikey> incase of spaces in the name...
[09:10] <martijn_nerd> hey guys
[09:11] <petitout> okay i'll try that and follow the script see where itleads me
[09:11] <intelikey> petitout at any rate you can run the command to archive the dir at any time (until you delete it...)    that's the thing i was telling you to do...
[09:11] <martijn_nerd> think i found a bug in kubuntu, can one of you check (or enlighten me) maybe, before i go thru the bugreporting process.
[09:11] <petitout> yah i'm just not very good with command lines yet
[09:12] <martijn_nerd> the kde-cache dirs of my users are growing without limit in the /var/tmp dir
[09:12] <petitout> getting there
[09:12] <martijn_nerd> this is due to the http cache in there
[09:12] <flaccid> im off
[09:12] <intelikey>  make clean ;Q="$(basename `pwd`)" ;cd .. ;tar -czf $Q_uninstaller.tgz "$Q"
[09:13] <intelikey> better name for the archive   ^
[09:13] <petitout> thank you once again
[09:13] <intelikey> petitout you do know that   that has to be ran in the   build dir.
[09:13] <petitout> yup
[09:13] <intelikey> k
[09:14] <intelikey> did i mention i hate to compile things ???
[09:14] <petitout> but my variable will give me taht path right?
[09:14] <petitout> that
[09:15] <intelikey> the var will be set to the name of the dir you are in when you run that string.
[09:15] <stdin> intelikey: shouldn't $Q_uninstaller.tgz be ${Q}_uninstaller.tgz ?
[09:17] <intelikey> if you ran that in a dir in your home called  testing_his_stupid_command   then it should make an archive of the testing_his_stupid_command dir will be added to    testing_his_stupid_command_uninstall.tgz   in your home dir
[09:17] <intelikey> and no.   don't change leave the "$Q"  of the end.   it wont work.
[09:17] <intelikey> change or leave
[09:18] <intelikey> typo king at it again.   now you got me flustered.
[09:18] <stdin> intelikey: ie: "Q=$(basename `pwd`); echo $Q_somename.tgz" = ".tgz"
[09:18] <petitout> i<m trying all that right away
[09:19] <intelikey> stdin yep _ to -  fix
[09:19] <intelikey> see
[09:19] <intelikey> takes all of us
[09:19] <intelikey> see
[09:19] <intelikey>  make clean ;Q="$(basename `pwd`)" ;cd .. ;tar -czf $Q-uninstaller.tgz "$Q"
[09:19] <intelikey> there   fixed
[09:20] <intelikey> duh.
[09:20] <intelikey> i'll leave now before i break something
[09:20] <Tabmows> when i change my desktop resolution in kde it always defaults back to 1024x768 when i log back in.. how can i save this?
[09:20] <petitout> htanks for all the fish
[09:23] <intelikey> what stdin pointed out,   is that the underscore can be used in variables thus $Q_uninstaller != $Q <plus> _uninstall    but    $Q-uninstaller == $Q <plus> -uninstaller    for anyone that missed it.
[09:28] <yeniklasorr> stdin : they said "Thank you for contacting support. You may install it using a --prefix to a subdirectory in your root folder."
[09:29] <yeniklasorr> I compiled and make "wget", but how to install :(
[09:30] <stdin> yeniklasorr: did it have a configure script
[09:30] <yeniklasorr> it have
[09:30] <yeniklasorr> it has :D
[09:31] <stdin> what options did you give it? did you put the --prefix in?
[09:34] <intelikey> stdin no pun intended in this   but if one reads stdin (no plumbing) how do you "end the input" stop stdin ?
[09:34] <yeniklasorr> stdin : I didn't I don't know what is prefix
[09:34] <stdin> intelikey: normally the stream ends with a EndOfFile character
[09:35] <jcdg> hi,
[09:35] <jcdg> somebody speaks spanish??
[09:35] <stdin> yeniklasorr: you need to choose it, a subdirectory, so do ./configure --prefix=/home/me/directory
[09:35] <intelikey> not stream.  stdin
[09:36] <stdin> jcdg: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:36] <intelikey>  while read Q
[09:36] <intelikey>     do echo "$Q"
[09:36] <intelikey>  done
[09:36] <jcdg> como hago eso??
[09:36] <yeniklasorr> stdin : then "make --prefix=/home/me/directory" and "make install --prefix=/home/me/directory" ?
[09:36] <jcdg> disculpen mmi ignorancia
[09:36] <stdin> jcdg: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:36] <intelikey> i could use what a break command ot drop out of that loop if EOF is read
[09:37] <stdin> yeniklasorr: no, only needed for ./configure
[09:37] <yeniklasorr> ok trying
[09:37] <intelikey> jcdg no hablas espanol     /join #kubuntu-es
[09:38] <intelikey> jcdg or  /join #ubuntu-es      no ?
[09:38] <stdin> intelikey: the application (bash or sh) reads the input stream, be it a file or whatever, then when the stream ends and EOF character is sent
[09:39] <stdin> intelikey: stdin/out/err are all IO streams
[09:40] <intelikey> while read Q ; do echo "$Q" ;done      <<<< drop that in a shell and tell me where the end of the stream is ?
[09:41] <stdin> intelikey: in the shell Ctrl-D is EOF
[09:41] <malqos> i have problem with my knetworkmanager - when i click  on the icon nothing happend:(i reinstal it,remove and instal one more time and still the same, what else can i do?
[09:42] <stdin> malqos: right-click it?
[09:42] <intelikey> ^c will kill it in a shell  but the same thing in a script and ^c  nor ^d affect it   it just keeps on reading and reading,   it's like that stupid pink bunny
[09:44] <stdin> intelikey: what do you mean, when you run the command in a script ctrl-d doesn't work?
[09:44] <intelikey> wait i'm still testing   i think it may.   i just got impatient
[09:45] <stdin> works when I do it :)
[09:45] <malqos> stdin: what?
[09:45] <malqos> :)
[09:45] <intelikey> don't forget we have different bashes
[09:45] <yeniklasorr> stdin : thanks I did it, now how to use it? with "wget" or with  "/home/me/wget/bin/wget" or any other ?
[09:46] <stdin> malqos: when you click the icon nothing happens, try right-clicking it
[09:46] <stdin> intelikey: works in sh too
[09:46] <stdin> yeniklasorr: depends on your $PATH
[09:47] <stdin> yeniklasorr: if /home/you/wget/bin is before the place the system wget is installed you can just do "wget"
[09:47] <yeniklasorr> stdin : no I created it
[09:47] <malqos> stdin: ok. i clikc rigth and i see small menu:add item to desktop, add item to main panel,edit item, put into run dialog
[09:48] <intelikey> stdin yeah it's working   just got in too big of a hurry the first try.
[09:48] <stdin> yeniklasorr: you can can change your $PATH then
[09:49] <stdin> yeniklasorr: you mean it's not starting?
[09:49] <intelikey> when i kill things i like them to die right now.    not kick jerk and bleed for half a day...
[09:50] <yeniklasorr> stdin : I'm working with "wget/bin/wget http://...." it is working
[09:50] <yeniklasorr> stdin : if I close ssh, downloading will resume or kill ?
[09:50] <dissection> Anyone know what the url to the webgui interface of ktorrent is?
[09:50] <stdin> yeniklasorr: will probably be killed
[09:51] <yeniklasorr> stdin : anyway to not be kill
[09:51] <stdin> yeniklasorr: wget -b
[09:51] <yeniklasorr> ok thank you
[09:52] <stdin> dissection: by default http://localhost:8080/
[09:52] <yeniklasorr> stdin : Continuing in background, pid 598  worked thanks
[09:53] <dissection> stdin: Okay, that worked. Thanks. I had changed it to port 80 and http://localhost/ wasn't working
[09:53] <stdin> dissection: you need to be root to open a port lower than 1024
[09:53] <hangthedj> anybody used basketnotes yet?
[09:53] <Lynoure> hangthedj: ask away
[09:53] <Lynoure> hangthedj: it's not _that_ new :)
[09:54] <dissection> Okay
[09:54] <hangthedj> i guess not.
[09:54] <Lynoure> hangthedj: I'm trying to get into the developement of it, but have been distracted by various things
[09:54] <hangthedj> i just upgraded to gutsy from feisty, and kontact wouldn't stop crashing.  so i installed the svn of basket notes, and it stopped crashing.  anyway, i love basketnotes.
[09:54] <hangthedj> great program.
[09:55] <Lynoure> hard to tell what was the cause of the crashing... maybe some library missing, or something
[09:56] <hangthedj> i don't know, all i know is when i loaded basket notes externally it didn't crash.  and when i loaded kontact and then killed basket notes then clicked on it, it crashed.  now it doesn.t
[09:59] <stdin> hangthedj: It's a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/133857  gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[10:00] <hangthedj> stdin: well i fixed it with svn :)
[10:00] <hangthedj> well i mean i didn't fix it.
[10:00] <hangthedj> but it works now.
[10:00] <stdin> hangthedj: report that on the bug page
[10:01] <intelikey> well it's setteled,  i'm calling this a hardware problem.      i refuse to blame linux for this sound issue.
[10:01] <intelikey> and is athlon k6 or k7  ?
[10:04] <intelikey> ok it's 7 & 8   my bad.
[10:04] <intelikey> then why does it say cpm family 6 ?
[10:05] <stdin> k8 seems to be the amd64 cpu
[10:06] <intelikey> yes k8 is 64bit
[10:07] <intelikey> maybe athlon is like pentium ???

[10:07] <slougi> k7 is the athlon [xp]  core, k8 is the athlon64 core
[10:08] <fkm> Heh
[10:08] <slougi> family 6 means just that it is basically a i686 chip
[10:08] <fkm> That tutorial was somewhat overkill :)
[10:08] <stdin> intelikey: bah, why can't you just get -generic :p
[10:08] <intelikey> stdin heh.
[10:10] <intelikey> stdin this box is new to me.  i'm just learning what and why about it..
[10:10] <stdin> intelikey: lshw is good for that
[10:11] <intelikey> doesn't tell what cpu family,   i'm still wondering about that
[10:11] <fkm> The only thing I needed to change was the Protocol (ImPS/2 -> ExplorerPS/2), comment out the 3 button emulation (Emulate3Buttons) in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and uncomment the IMWHEEL_PARAMS in /etc/X11/imwheel/statup.conf and change the numbers to "4 5 8 9".
[10:11] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39119
[10:11] <fkm> And now my MX500 works fine with my Kubuntu :D
[10:12] <fkm> Now let's see if this works in games too :)
[10:15] <ubuntu_> hello i keep getin error by loging in on kde 7.04
[10:15] <ubuntu_> There was an error setting up interprocess communication for KDE. The message returned by the system connection was:
[10:15] <ubuntu_> could not read network connection list.
[10:15] <ubuntu_> /home/
[10:17] <ubuntu_> stdin: cq u help me?
[10:18] <ubuntu_> can
[10:19] <intelikey> what's the range on wifi in unconjested conditions ?
[10:20] <hrz> hi
[10:20] <intelikey> hrz
[10:22] <ubuntu_> hello i keep getin error by loging in on kde 7.04 whit the dcopserver
[10:27] <SlimeyPete> how does one tell KDE not to launch Amarok on login? It's driving me nuts.
[10:30] <ubuntu_> SlimeyPete: i dont koz how.but zhen somethings bother me i close everything n logout n back in
[10:30] <SlimeyPete> well, that won't fix anything - my problem is that Amarok runs ever time I log in :)
[10:31] <Tabmows> anyone know how to make sure my kde/kubuntu saves the desktop size when I change it? i try and change it to 1280x800 and it changes back to 1024x768 when i logout or reboot?
[10:31] <ubuntu_> stdin: uthere?
[10:32] <sini|work> SlimeyPete: Maybe that behavior is set in the amarok options, dunno if ther is sch an option.  I can't just "close the window" as I don't use a window decorator. I quit it properly, so that it is no longer on the panel.
[10:35] <ubuntu_> runlevelten: i got prob ith loging in i; on cd live my prob is:could not read network connection list.
[10:35] <runlevelten> then switch off persistent sessions, at least for one logout-login. like so:
[10:36] <runlevelten> alt+F2   type kcontrol and press enter  kde components  session manager  set "On Login" to "Start with an empty session"
[10:37] <runlevelten> ubuntu_: You sure you're running kubuntu, not ubuntu?
[10:37] <ubuntu_> runlevelten: feisty 7.04
[10:37] <SlimeyPete> runlevelten: ok, cheers, I'll try that.
[10:37] <runlevelten> SlimeyPete: good stuff :)
[10:38] <runlevelten> ubuntu_: Are you aware of whether you're running gnome or KDE?
[10:39] <runlevelten> ubuntu_: Is everything mostly brown?
[10:39] <ubuntu_> runlevelten:kde i havent install gnome.i start giving me that prob when i config my livebox to get internet
[10:40] <ubuntu_> runlevelten: lol im not that stupid
[10:40] <ubuntu_> runlevelten: everything blue
[10:40] <runlevelten> Why would it be stupid if you didn't know? :)
[10:40] <runlevelten> if it's a boggle with the gui network tools, I can't honestly say I ever use them :(
[10:41] <ubuntu_> i keep teling u its kde feisty 7.04 im running
[10:41] <runlevelten> ubuntu_: Yeah, I gathered that...
[10:43] <ubuntu_> runlevelten: i went in network profile n i deleted the name that was there
[10:44] <ubuntu_> runlevelten: hien megabrain?
[10:45] <ubuntu_> stdin:
[10:47] <ubuntu_> runlevelten: i; goin to reinstall kde this suck.i; havin taughts on chagin to ubuntu
[10:47] <ubuntu_> or fedora
[10:48] <runlevelten> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26208.html        http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26208
[10:49] <runlevelten> ubuntu_: Well that's your choice.
[10:50] <josiah> !multiverse
[10:50] <josiah> !repositories
[10:50] <josiah> !repositorie
[10:50] <josiah> hmm
[10:51] <josiah> anybody know where to get info on setting up repositories?
[10:51] <runlevelten> !repos
[10:51] <LoneShadow> how to enable software sound mixing ?
[10:51] <LoneShadow> !mixing
[10:51] <josiah> !repos
[10:51] <runlevelten> ooh, the bot's had it.
[10:51] <josiah> ?
[10:51] <runlevelten> Hang on guys.
[10:51] <LoneShadow> bot went to bed ? :D
[10:52] <NickPresta> Goodnight all.
[10:52] <runlevelten> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.positories and http://www.ubuntu.cocomponents - See also !EasySource
[10:52] <LoneShadow> !mixing
[10:52] <linopil> !op
[10:53] <LoneShadow> bot is still down ?
[10:53] <runlevelten> a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[10:53] <linopil> apparently
[10:53] <LoneShadow> so what is runlevelten displaying ?
[10:54] <linopil> bot come back home
[10:57] <runlevelten> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:57] <josiah> !easysource
[10:58] <runlevelten> a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nlce-o-matic
[10:58] <josiah> there isnt a difference between kubuntu and ubuntu repositories?
[10:58] <runlevelten> a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:58] <runlevelten> josiah: No
[10:58] <SlimeyPete> josiah: nope. Same repos.
[10:59] <SlimeyPete> Same OS, different default environment.
[11:01] <josiah> ty
[11:02] <josiah> is there a good site to follow for setting up kubuntu for all software repos, settings, codecs etc etc? I just came from suse and dont know anything about ubuntu/kubuntu
[11:08] <spiroo> hello everyone
[11:08] <pupeno> josiah: many of the most important resources are already on /etc/apt/sources.list, they are just commented out.
[11:08] <pupeno> for the rest:
[11:08] <pupeno> !mp3
[11:08] <spiroo> is there any dist to mount from an USB
[11:08] <josiah> !mp3
[11:08] <pupeno> it's not working...
[11:09] <trekdanne> !codecs
[11:09] <spiroo> please, I wanna install linux in school, lol :D
[11:09] <trekdanne> what's happend to ubotu??
[11:09] <pupeno> spiroo: your question is not clear.
[11:09] <spiroo> the bot is turned off maybe for the moment
[11:10] <spiroo> I wanna install linux from an USB
[11:10] <pupeno> spiroo: the boot is working on #ubuntu.
[11:10] <spiroo> with USB?
[11:10] <spiroo> does it boot automatically, or do I have to  change in BIOS?
[11:11] <OuZo> how many logical partitions is the max? thanks
[11:11] <spiroo> 4
[11:11] <spiroo> it is not OS dependent
[11:12] <spiroo> but you could install an extended partition with partitions inside
[11:12] <pupeno> I meant the bot.
[11:12] <pupeno> I don't know about usb, but I'll do a search first.
[11:12] <josiah> i just used the bot in the ubuntu channel :) seems to work fine
[11:13] <spiroo> okay thanks pupeno. My permissions in school is quite annoying :D I wanna use linux :D
[11:13] <josiah> ok i see firefox and thunderbird in adept manager as installed but they are not located in the Kde -> Internet menue
[11:14] <_Shade_> .join #ubuntu
[11:14] <_Shade_> shit sorry :)
[11:22] <OuZo> how many extended partitions can i make?
[11:24] <stdin> OuZo: as many as you want
[11:25] <OuZo> thanks stdin
[11:25] <josiah> ok... can someone assist me with installing nvidia drivers?
[11:27] <Tomi-idle> !nvidia
[11:28] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:52] <der_fox> hi leutz
[12:04] <joseph1110216> how do i check if ubuntu is using my video card?
[12:12] <richi_> Hi everybody.
[12:21] <Gargantua> Hi
[12:21] <Gargantua> my resolution is really low, and I can't change it from the controls. any help?
[12:21] <richips> Gargantua, can't you change it from the "configure desktop" option?
[12:21] <gargantua_> hi
[12:21] <SteamMachine> Hi
[12:21] <Gargantua> is it possible to create a root password on kubuntu?
[12:21] <Gargantua> I want to have su access.
[12:21] <runlevelten> sudo passwd root methinks
[12:22] <stdin> sudo -i is easier
[12:22] <Gargantua> runlevelten: I found my answer on google, but thank you very much.
[12:22] <Gargantua> could someone help me with my resolution problem please?
[12:22] <SteamMachine> I'd really like to add emoticons into kopete... how do I do this?
[12:22] <runlevelten> good stuff.
[12:22] <stdin> Gargantua: thought about "sudo su" ?
[12:23] <runlevelten> Now that's just perverse.
[12:23] <runlevelten> *su -c sudo even
[12:23] <Gargantua> sudo password root did the trick.
[12:24] <Gargantua> could it be an xorg configuration problem?
[12:24] <runlevelten> SteamMachine: you can download them from online
[12:25] <runlevelten> in the config dialog where you set emoticons, click get new stuff.
[12:25] <SteamMachine> runlevelten: but supposing I just wanted to add one or two new emoticons?
[12:25] <runlevelten> spose you could edit an existing theme :)
[12:26] <Gargantua> damn
[12:26] <SteamMachine> hm.
[12:27] <Gargantua> apt > yum
[12:27] <runlevelten> so you could copy /usr/share/emoticons/Default to a new folder
[12:27] <runlevelten> then drop in your new ones.
[12:27] <runlevelten> renaming them so they replace whatever ones you...wanted to replace.
[12:33] <runlevelten> SteamMachine: yeah, that works fine. Appears as a new emoticon theme (foldername) in kopete's list
[12:37] <Assid> hrmm kopete should have supported the same way msn does.. to add new emoticons
[12:38] <liu> qq can't be used in kopete, it is so disapponinted
[12:39] <runlevelten> there's probably a plugin for what you're talking about :)
[12:39] <liu> you don't know qq?
[12:40] <Assid> hrmm will check it
[12:40] <runlevelten> what's qq?
[12:40] <Assid> downloading at 10-15K/sec isnt fun
[12:40] <Assid> qq? qmail-queue ?
[12:40] <Tm_T> hi kids
[12:40] <liu> qq ,a software like msn
[12:40] <liu> qq is very popular in china
[12:41] <runlevelten> hi Tm_T... how'd the surgery go?
[12:41] <Assid> eva ?
[12:41] <seanpcrowe|> silly question here... how do i reboot kubuntu??? (every time i do, the previous session is still there)
[12:41] <runlevelten> I've never heard of it liu - let me just find out about it :)
[12:42] <runlevelten> ( seanpcrowe|: alt+F2  kcontrol  kde components  session manager  change on login to start with an empty session )
[12:43] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten, you are a gentleman sir... thx =)
[12:43] <runlevelten> np at all seanpcrowe| :)
[12:44] <Assid> runlevelten: check out eva
[12:44] <runlevelten> liu: still reading about qq, but for reference, the machine next to me has gaim installed and lets you add a qq acct.
[12:44] <runlevelten> *pidgin
[12:44] <Assid> pidgin?
[12:45] <valentin13> bonjour a tous
[12:45] <runlevelten> Hello valentin13
[12:46] <BrightEyes`> hello.anyone to help me make my microphone work?
[12:46] <runlevelten> liu: there's certainly some qq stuff in the kopete repos.
[12:46] <valentin13> it is   english here
[12:46] <dejv> anyone who know something about motherboard-compatibility and kubuntu?
[12:46] <runlevelten> valentin13: indeed :)
[12:47] <runlevelten> BrightEyes`: it's likely you need to adjust settings in kmix#
[12:47] <runlevelten> alt+F2  kmix
[12:47] <BrightEyes`> runlevelten: yes.after?
[12:48] <BrightEyes`> runlevelten: in input i press the radio button for the microphone and it gets red.
[12:48] <valentin13> run  do you know if  yahoo messenger can to open on unix
[12:48] <valentin13> or it is just for window
[12:48] <Tomi-idle> valentin13: if you're one kubuntu you can use Kopete to use Yahoo
[12:48] <runlevelten> valentin13: firstly, there is a yahoo messenger for unix, and it's really really terrible
[12:48] <runlevelten> valentin13: fortunately...
[12:48] <runlevelten> valentin13: you can use kopete or pidgin to chat on yahoo.
[12:49] <valentin13> because i have some friend on yahoo messenger  so i wish  to get  messenger
[12:49] <valentin13> i am new on  kubuntu unix
[12:49] <runlevelten> Well kopete is fairly easy to use :)
[12:49] <valentin13> it is a little hard
[12:50] <Assid> runlevelten: pidgin good?
[12:50] <runlevelten> Do you have it open?
[12:50] <Gargantua> oh man, my resolution still wont go high enough.
[12:50] <runlevelten> Assid: Pidgin's great, yeah. Kopete has the edge at the moment, but I alternate between them over the years for feature support.
[12:50] <valentin13> i  have to find with  adept
[12:50] <runlevelten> valentin13: it may be installed by default.
[12:51] <runlevelten> ( Assid - pidgin is the new name for gaim btw )
[12:51] <Assid> ohhhhhhhhhh
[12:51] <Assid> hrmm okay then
[12:51] <Assid> pidgin looks too widgetty on kubuntu
[12:51] <Tomi-idle> better use kopete under kde ;)
[12:51] <runlevelten> as I said, kopete has the edge atm tbh.
[12:51] <valentin13> ty run for  kopete
[12:51] <runlevelten> and integrates better.
[12:52] <runlevelten> np valentin13 - one proviso though
[12:52] <runlevelten> if you wish to use webcam and voice, there is an ugly ( but more featureful ) software that can do those.
[12:52] <liu> the online people using qq is 30 million
[12:52] <runlevelten> It's called "gyachi! improved"
[12:52] <BrightEyes`> runlevelten: im now trying to record with audacity and nothing
[12:53] <runlevelten> liu: I bet it's more than that if it's popular in China :D
[12:53] <liu> I say it is the online number
[12:53] <seanpcrowe|> Gargantua, whats wrong?
[12:53] <liu> it has 0
[12:53] <Gargantua> seanpcrowe|: well I commented out all the resolutions from my xorg config,
[12:53] <liu> it has 0.2 billion user in china
[12:54] <runlevelten> Gosh, wow.
[12:54] <seanpcrowe|> u cant get 1280x800 Gargantua ????
[12:54] <Gargantua> and now my resolution still wont go as high as I want it.
[12:54] <seanpcrowe|> how high do you want it?
[12:54] <JD> 3590ft
[12:54] <JD> jajaj
[12:54] <seanpcrowe|> lulz
[12:54] <Gargantua> I am currently on 1280x800
[12:54] <seanpcrowe|> over 9000 =)
[12:54] <Assid> nice
[12:54] <Gargantua> it sucks because it's all squeezed.
[12:54] <Assid> i just bought a geforce 6600GT for 40$
[12:54] <JD> 39652km
[12:54] <Assid> 2nd hand
[12:54] <Assid> worth it ?
[12:54] <runlevelten> Assid: Good move.
[12:55] <runlevelten> imo anyway
[12:55] <liu> qq has 90% users,and msn has 9% user in china
[12:55] <Assid> actually 45 if oyu convert
[12:55] <seanpcrowe|> well i had a problem where i couldn't get 1280x800 Gargantua on intel GMA945... i installed 915resulution and this fixed it...
[12:55] <Assid> runlevelten: didnt make sense upgrading my hardware atm .. i got a p4 3ghz.. 1.5GB ram
[12:55] <Gargantua> how?
[12:55] <JD> qq is a car here where i live, ajaj
[12:55] <runlevelten> that's like 10 quid or something, heh :)
[12:55] <runlevelten> Lucky git.
[12:55] <Assid> so i can wait for the penryns to come out
[12:55] <liu> yes ,qq is also a car made in china
[12:56] <liu> www.qq.com
[12:56] <liu> you can go
[12:56] <Chippy> hey, I'm wanting to install the new flash beta, can anyone offer me any advice?
[12:56] <Assid> at that time.. id prolly pick up the 8600GTS with E5420 (2.6ghz quad)
[12:56] <seanpcrowe|> K menu >>> system >>>> adept manager >>>> 915 resulution... <----- try that Gargantua, also what GFX chip do u have and can your moniter handle higher res's ?
[12:56] <Assid> i wonder if it will make much of a difference to me ;)
[12:56] <runlevelten> liu, did you gather what I was saying about qq support being (apparently) worked on ?
[12:56] <JD> it is from cheely??
[12:57] <Gargantua> seanpcrowe|: Radeon 9250.
[12:57] <Gargantua> I've ran much higher res's on Windows.
[12:57] <liu> qq can work in linux through eva?
[12:57] <liu> but eva isn't very good
[12:57] <runlevelten> or through pidgin
[12:57] <liu> yes
[12:57] <seanpcrowe|> 915resulution is NOT gonna be your answer then... sorry dude cant help... :s
[12:57] <runlevelten> and there are recent commits to do with qq support in kopete's repos.
[12:57] <Assid> i wouldnt mind a nice ati card.. problem is.. ati support on linux isnt too good
[12:58] <JD> and advise?? buy an Nvidia
[12:58] <runlevelten> Chippy: never shelter under a tree in a thunderstorm
[12:58] <roberto_> im in truble anyone here?
[12:58] <runlevelten> Oh, and also don't judge a book by its cover :D
[12:58] <Chippy> runlevelten: heh
[12:58] <liu> in china ,everyone who surf the Internet must be the user of qq
[12:59] <Assid> runlevelten:  never shelter under a mushroom in a storm !
[12:59] <Gargantua> seanpcrowe|: ok I installed the res, should I restart?
[12:59] <Assid> although if you do manage to.. your probably a smurf
[12:59] <runlevelten> liu: It appears to be noticed in KDE :)
[12:59] <Assid> be noticed in kde ?
[12:59] <roberto_> how to modify the permission on a folder?
[12:59] <Assid> roberto_: right click.. properties
[12:59] <runlevelten> Chippy: my advice is make sure you report any webcam bugs you find
 915resulution is NOT gonna be your answer then... sorry dude cant help... : <----- did u not see that Gargantua ???
[01:00] <JD> why they should use QQ??
[01:00] <Assid> roberto_:  or if your using cli .. chmod and chown depending what you wanna do
[01:00] <Chippy> does anyone know how to uninstall my old flash version?
[01:00] <Chippy> I have a deb to install for the new one
[01:00] <seanpcrowe|> that will only work with intel chips Gargantua... you should uninstall it to be on the safe side...
[01:00] <runlevelten> Although didn't they palm that off on v4l now?
[01:00] <Gargantua> uh oh!
[01:00] <roberto_> cmod !
[01:00] <seanpcrowe|> lol Gargantua, just uninstall it...
[01:00] <Gargantua> I am lol
[01:00] <Gargantua> that's it
[01:01] <Gargantua> I am installing debian instead.
[01:01] <seanpcrowe|> did u search the ubuntu forums?
[01:01] <Assid> Gargantua: for desktop?
[01:01] <Gargantua> kubuntu sucks, I am always having problems with ubuntu and res.
[01:01] <seanpcrowe|> yeah me too, but i got them sorted
[01:01] <Gargantua> Assid: more like for everything.
[01:01] <Assid> Gargantua: i used to have similar issues.. i run debian on my servers.. and kubuntu on my desktop
[01:02] <runlevelten> If you can't fix it in ubuntu, you'll be stuffed on debian.
[01:02] <Assid> Gargantua: very simple to fix actually most forums have alot of tips
[01:02] <runlevelten> Gargantua: what's your actual boggle?
[01:02] <Gargantua> Deboan = fixed by default = me happy
[01:02] <Assid> runlevelten: thats why servers run debian.. no need for X
[01:02] <Gargantua> debian*
[01:02] <Assid> Gargantua: not really.. it works on similar packages
[01:02] <Assid> etch uses older packages.. its a greater chance your hardware wont be pushed and you are using basic configurations
[01:02] <Gargantua> I know, for some reason, ubuntu's resolution is very low by default.
[01:03] <Gargantua> I think it's because they use different drivers or something.
[01:03] <runlevelten> what, it's not picking up the right modelines for you?
[01:03] <Assid> Gargantua: go to xorg.conf ... and modfy it
[01:03] <Gargantua> Assid: I did, only made things worse.
[01:03] <valentin13> ty run
[01:03] <Gargantua> to be honest, the only OS to get my resolution right was Windows.
[01:03] <valentin13> i have  yahoo now
[01:03] <seanpcrowe|> Gargantua. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182537 <----- there you go
[01:03] <runlevelten> no problem, valentin13 :)
[01:04] <Assid> Gargantua:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:04] <valentin13> unix is   weird
[01:04] <Assid> reset it to default first
[01:04] <valentin13> different of window
[01:04] <Assid> !resolution
[01:04] <Assid> !res
[01:04] <roberto_> help !
[01:04] <Assid> hrmm im sure the bot had something on it
[01:04] <runlevelten> more likely o be that it's not picking your monitor up right, to be honest.
[01:04] <roberto_> how to modify the cmod?
[01:04] <Assid> alrite.. i better run before those guys go away
[01:04] <runlevelten> I'd look documentation/people using that monitor.
[01:05] <Assid> runlevelten: well.. it depends actually on ddi or something..
[01:05] <Gargantua> ok brb
[01:05] <Assid> runlevelten:  first time i put the 6600 card in.. it showed the modelines.. and then next time i removed xorg.conf and replaced the card with another card.. and then again put the card back.. there are no modelines mentioned in xorg.conf
[01:05] <runlevelten> Also, if you have any liveCDs that get it all right (ie KNOPPIX), save the modelines and monitor device section  and put it in your own.from their xorg.conf
[01:06] <Assid> yeah.. but sometimes you dont need the modelines.. you just set the horizontal and vertical.. and you should be fine
[01:09] <runlevelten> You can usually find the documentation for the monitor and it'll have the hsync and vref specs there.
[01:11] <fkm> Does somebody know what draws my windows, when I have an 'empty' X session? I open the session from KDM with: X :0 -ac
[01:11] <runlevelten> Unmanaged X?
[01:12] <fkm> It's for a wine-session. I hope this will improve the performance for Steam games
[01:13] <fkm> Actually it all works fine. But when I open a firefox (with a button provided in steam) - well there's no window decoration, but that's alright - the window looks kinda weird. Like an old GTK window
[01:14] <fkm> May this actually be wine drawing the (interior) of the firefox window?
[01:14] <fkm> Or rather some backup window manager, as the main one isn't loaded?
[01:14] <RivaeAerya> join #compiz-fusion
[01:14] <RivaeAerya> oops
[01:14] <RivaeAerya> had to put a slash in front of that
[01:15] <valentin13> who know gentoo
[01:16] <fkm> Or let's forget about this question. It's not that important as long as it works :)
[01:16] <slougi> fkm: wine's own browser uses the gecko engine, maybe it's that?
[01:16] <slougi> valentin13: #gentoo
[01:16] <valentin13> unix gentoo
[01:16] <runlevelten> wine is not drawing the widgets in your linux apps.
[01:17] <fkm> Maybe. The contextmenus were not the ones from Firefox
[01:17] <seanpcrowe|> hey, does anyone know of the name of a file shredder in kubuntu??? (i had a couple in vista)
[01:17] <runlevelten> use the one that comes with kgpg seanpcrowe|
[01:17] <fkm> Hmmm... Well. Then I guess it's not wine as it really was a firefox. (with the "Restore Session" button at the beginning as I didn't close it at the last session)
[01:18] <runlevelten> there's no way it would be wine unless you installed firefox in wine
[01:18] <seanpcrowe|> ok runlevelten... thanks =)
[01:18] <runlevelten> seanpcrowe|: np
[01:18] <slougi> runlevelten: yes there is, if an app asks for the mshtml widget it will prompt you for permission to download the gecko widget
[01:19] <fkm> So it must be something else. Maybe Qt without the styles
[01:19] <slougi> runlevelten: in any case wine itself implements all the default windows controls
[01:20] <runlevelten> slougi: Just no, frankly.
[01:20] <slougi> ?
[01:20] <runlevelten> mshtml is one thing. The GUI widgets in Firefox are another.
[01:21] <slougi> runlevelten: heh, if steam uses mshtml, wine will download the windows version of gecko and use that as a replacement
[01:21] <fkm> I got this wine gecko replacement thing installed
[01:21] <valentin13> i am lost
[01:22] <magnus__> salve
[01:22] <runlevelten> slougi: indeed. That's got nothing to do with drawing the widgets in native firefox. Nothing whatsoever.
[01:22] <fkm> But I don't think it's that. Because I don't think it supports tabs and doesn't ask me what to do with the tabs from the last session ;)
[01:22] <fkm> Well. Maybe I'll find out later on what's beeing loaded :)
[01:22] <slougi> runlevelten: right, and i never claimed anything to that effect
[01:23] <runlevelten> So what on earth are you talking about then?
[01:23] <slougi> if there is a button inside steam to open firefox, it will not open the native firefox, now will it?
[01:23] <fkm> I got another question there :) Is it possible to do a logout (back to KDM) without the logout-button? Is there a command or key-bind/shortcut?
[01:23] <JCDG> hi, does anyone know how to use ntfs-3g??
[01:24] <slougi> fkm: you can probably use dcop, not sure which interface though
 there's no way it would be wine unless you installed firefox in wine  <slougi> runlevelten: yes there is
[01:24] <fkm> slougi: It's not a Firefox button. It's the "News" button which opens the URI in your default bowser (at least it normally does :))
[01:24] <fkm> Ok, thanks :)
[01:24] <JCDG> so, whta do i do after i install it??
[01:25] <runlevelten> Yes, that would entail *installing firefox in wine*
[01:25] <slougi> runlevelten: misread that ;)
[01:25] <runlevelten> ;)
[01:25] <runlevelten> slougi: easily done.
[01:25] <slougi> in any case my point was that any websites opened from an app run using wine will open up using either the mshtml gecko component or another native browser
[01:26] <JCDG> how do i use ntfs-3g?
[01:28] <fkm> Ok, I will check that and then tell you what really opened :)
[01:28] <fkm> But now I have to go to the city. I think I'll be back in about an hour or so
[01:28] <fkm> Cu then, and thank you again, slougi and runlevelten  :)
[01:28] <runlevelten> have fun.
[01:28] <runlevelten> Oh, and fkm?
[01:28] <valentin13> brb my dinner
[01:29] <fkm> Yes?
[01:29] <runlevelten> let me know how that works out please ;)
[01:29] <fkm> I will :)
[01:29] <runlevelten> source engine, yeah?
[01:30] <fkm> Not really. I'm still at cstrike with the half-life1 (/q2) engine
[01:30] <runlevelten> ah ok :)
[01:30] <fkm> Didn't get the source-engine to work. But maybe with the new and pure wine session my computer will be up to the challenge ;)
[01:30] <deadmoon> hi
[01:30] <fkm> Or I for that matter ;)
[01:30] <runlevelten> cool.
[01:31] <fkm> Ok, saved your nicks in a KNote so I don't loos'em :)
[01:31] <fkm> cu later :)
[01:31] <deadmoon> was wondering if you could digg http://digg.com/design/Funniest_Restaurant_Signs_and_Menus_sometimes_people_need_to_proof_read if you think its worth digging! :P (sorry for spammy like message! only digg if you like it
[01:32] <seanpcrowe|> anyone know if there is a chatroom here for help with media codecs and media player etc... ???
[01:33] <seanpcrowe|> *media players
[01:33] <runlevelten> later dude
[01:34] <runlevelten> deadmoon: What'd you spam the channel for man?
[01:34] <runlevelten> :(
[01:34] <runlevelten> !codecs
[01:34] <deadmoon> well wasn't so much spam
[01:35] <tomas_> hello all
[01:35] <tomas_> pls help
[01:35] <JCDG> tell me tomas
[01:35] <tomas_> where to download Kubuntu feisty live cd?
[01:36] <runlevelten> deadmoon: it was ENTIRELY spam :(
[01:36] <tomas_> i see just desktop and alt
[01:36] <runlevelten> http://kubuntu.com/download.php
[01:36] <tomas_> ya there is the desktop and alt no live
[01:36] <JCDG> look,, the live cd it's an iso image of the download
[01:37] <JCDG> you can get it, by shipit in ubuntu.com or you can make record that iso image on a cd
[01:37] <runlevelten> tomas_: read the page a bit more carefully :)
[01:38] <runlevelten> seanpcrowe|: what's the problem?
[01:38] <JCDG> yeah, we need to read a little bit more before coming here,
[01:38] <tomas_> still cant see it
[01:38] <runlevelten> seanpcrowe|: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.tedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.c-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.reeFormats
[01:39] <knowledge25> hello: can somebody help me with my sudo?
[01:39] <runlevelten> Damn, those links truncated. Hang on
[01:39] <stdin> tomas_: the desktop cd IS the live cd
[01:39] <tomas_> no because i need the live to install linux mce
[01:39] <_Shade_> every time i am going to use sudo command i get this sudo: unable to lookup Linux via gethostbyname()
[01:39] <tomas_> and the desktop is no good fo that
[01:40] <runlevelten> seanpcrowe|: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:40] <_Shade_> how can i fix it?
[01:40] <runlevelten> tomas_: The Desktop Is The Live C D :P
[01:40] <JCDG> yeah, the desktop is the live cd
[01:41] <tomas_> ive tried it but the linux mce installet think somrhin else
[01:41] <knowledge25> hello: can somebody help me with my sudo?
[01:41] <stdin> tomas_: http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Download_Instructions
[01:42] <seanpcrowe|> runlevelten, awesome dude... thx for those links... =)
[01:42] <seanpcrowe|> i watch a lot of 720p & 1080p stuff usually in .mkv and its a nightmare getting them to work in leeniux =)
[01:42] <runlevelten> np seanpcrowe|, I just pasted them from the bot factoids, because the bot is unwell right now
[01:42] <tomas_> i know needed is live and the link points to desktop
[01:43] <stdin> tomas_: the desktop cd IS the live cd <<
[01:43] <runlevelten> tomas_: You REALLY need to slow down, have a cup of tea and read it carefully.
[01:43] <runlevelten> I know it's exciting and stuff, but it's in front of you :)
[01:44] <runlevelten> ( add coffee to taste :) )
[01:44] <JCDG> and a lot of vanilla tea
[01:44] <knowledge25> my sudo won't.work can somebody help me?
[01:45] <stdin> tomas_: from the instructions: "The CD installer comes on 2 CDs and requires you to first install Kubuntu 7.04 using Kubuntu's Live CD, and then to install LinuxMCE on top." do you use the 7.04 desktop CD
[01:45] <tomas_> yes have kubuntu installed
[01:45] <tomas_> but from the desktop cd
[01:45] <JCDG> who has kubuntu installed?
[01:45] <tomas_> meee
[01:46] <tomas_> on top i want mce
[01:46] <JCDG> ok, well, you don't need another live cd to instal mce
[01:46] <tomas_> the linux MCE is asking for it
[01:47] <stdin> tomas_: read http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Installation_Guide
[01:47] <tomas_> first asks for the 2MCE isos the the K live
[01:47] <tomas_> ive read the guide
[01:47] <JCDG> read the article
[01:49] <tomas_> in the article it asks for the LIVE CD
[01:49] <runlevelten> tomas_: Sounds like you have an issue with linuxmce then.
[01:49] <runlevelten> Or you're using a wrong/broken disk.
[01:49] <tomas_> i gave him the iso image
[01:50] <tomas_> of Kubuntu desktop
[01:50] <stdin> tomas_: we have told you several times, the Desktop CD is the Live CD
[01:50] <tomas_> i understand that