[02:43] <balloons> elopio, yea my earlier ping was about reminders. elopio I was pretty sure there was a reason we stayed on the sandbox, thanks for reminding me :-) So I'm confused why evernote works, but not evernote-sandbox
[13:36] <elopio> balloons: oh the phone, do you have the sandbox backend installed?
[13:37] <elopio> account-plugin-evernote-sandbox
[13:37] <balloons> elopio, morning :-)
[13:37] <elopio> hello
[13:38] <balloons> elopio, I was thinking / hoping it might be something so simple but account-console will create an account
[13:39] <balloons> elopio, that said, indeed it was not installed.. let's see what happens now
[13:39] <balloons> as expected, it works
[13:40] <balloons> elopio, hmm.. so I suppose since reminders only runs with the hook, I can propose an MP and simply add it to the manifest and we should be good to go
[13:40] <balloons> sorry, I meant only runs in CI with adt-run
[13:40] <elopio> awesome :)
[13:41] <elopio> balloons: maybe add some info about how to run it on the README
[13:41] <balloons> it just means the fancy tricks to doing it manually won't work out so well
[13:42] <balloons> elopio, while I have you though, I have one other question for you. So do you know a way for me to add a contact to the addressbook easily?
[13:43] <balloons> I need to have a contact in the addressbook for a test
[13:44] <elopio> balloons: I think there are two ways, a dummy backend if you are only testing address book and the testability package that the address book service provides.
[13:44] <elopio> brendand and om26er will be able to explain it to you better.
[13:44] <elopio> I'm not sure if the testability package has landed.
[13:45] <om26er> elopio, balloons testability package makes use of dummy backend and its not landed. still stands 'Approved'
[13:46] <balloons> mm.. which approach should I look to use if I'm not directly testing address-book?
[13:48] <elopio> balloons: om26er is your man and this is the branch
[13:48] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/address-book-service/test_dummy_service/+merge/225846
[13:49] <om26er> balloons, its as easy as just import the fixture and use in your setUp() nothing else to do
[13:50] <om26er> balloons, look line 278 on the diff.
[13:51] <balloons> om26er, awesome :-)
[13:52] <balloons> I'll give it a try
[14:04] <elopio> balloons: are we meeting with mardy today?
[14:11] <balloons> elopio, nope, I canceled it now.. We should be goo
[14:11] <balloons> *good
[14:11] <elopio> I still need to talk to him about other things but he never replies. balloons: did you get a reply?
[14:11] <balloons> elopio, that's the other piece.. I wasn't expecting him to be around
[14:12] <balloons> so it's just as well we solved it. I did not get a reply
[15:57] <elopio> barry: please ping when you are around. re: dialer
[16:02] <barry> elopio: hi.  gonna break for lunch soon, but i have time.  what's up?
[16:03] <elopio> barry: your branch with the port to py3 fails because of some errors on trunk.
[16:03] <elopio> I have fixed them, so can you please use my branch as a prerequisite and merge with it?
[16:03] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/dialer-app/fix1349641-swipe_recent
[16:04] <barry> elopio: yepper!
[16:06] <barry> elopio: https://code.launchpad.net/~barry/dialer-app/py3autopilot/+merge/228892
[16:06] <elopio> thanks barry.
[16:06] <barry> elopio: crossing my fingers again :)
[16:08] <barry> wow, the mp diff oops lp
[17:42] <josharenson> Hey all, getting an interesting error. Could be a unity "bug" but do you have any thoughts? Here is a trace http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7906740/
[17:48] <balloons> josharenson, you would need to share the full log to be of more use. But the link should help you
[17:49] <josharenson> balloons, i just fixed it... was a dependency issue...
[17:49] <josharenson> thanks though
[17:49] <balloons> :-p
[18:55] <barry> elopio: dang, looks like we're still getting failures.  do you have any thoughts?  (i haven't had time to look at it in detail yet)
[18:55] <elopio> barry: I'll look at it as soon as I finish all the new tasks they have put on me for this week.
[18:55] <elopio> hopefully, tomorrow.
[18:55] <barry> elopio: cool. i should have time tomorrow too
[18:56] <elopio> barry: ok, I'll let you know if I find something useful.
[18:56] <barry> elopio: thanks!
[18:56] <elopio> thanks to you
[18:56] <barry> we'll get it landed eventually ;)


[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[19:25] <santa_> good night everyone
[19:26] <santa_> RikMills: have you seen my comment @ a. volkov merge request?
[19:26] <santa_> https://code.launchpad.net/~a-volkov/kubuntu-packaging/+git/extra-cmake-modules/+merge/391161
[19:28] <santa_> I think we could get this merged before fw 5.75 to avoid havind an extra delta with debian because of the breaks/replaces of extra-cmake-modules-doc
[19:29] <santa_> do you mind if I discuss this with someone from #ubuntu-release? (in order to get it accepted quickly in ubuntu's upload queue)
[19:33] <santa_> btw I plan to do fw 5.75 this weekend if you don't mind :)


[01:23] <jose> moving articles to the wiki
[03:55] <jose> Unit193: Link check, please? :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue392
[03:55] <jose> will pull stats tomorrow morning
[06:02] <Unit193> jose: randall.executiv.es is an NXDOMAIN.
[06:03] <jose> Unit193: apparently it's down, probably he forgot to renew it?
[16:10] <PaulW2U> randall.executiv.es is still down. Was definitely up when I wrote the summary :)
[17:04] <PaulW2U> jose: editorial review done for #392, now working on #393 :)
[17:48] <PaulW2U> I've sent Randall an email about this but it bounced. Seems that his Ubuntu and Canonical email are forwarded to his executiv.es domain :(
[19:33] <jose> PaulW2U: thanks for the heads up. will contact him on irc and then release! :)
[19:34] <jose> pulling stats in the meanwhile
[19:39] <jose> unfortunately randall is on swap today and is unreachable, his part will have to go out
[19:50] <PaulW2U> jose: It looks like my email got through to Randall, the problem will be resolved within a few hours
[19:50] <jose> PaulW2U: ack. do you think they should be included?
[19:50] <jose> not 100% sure, up to you
[19:53] <PaulW2U> If you publish around midnight GMT then I'm sure it will be ok by then. I tried to find a link direct to the planet article but couldn't find one. You're in charge but I would publish with the existing links :)
[19:55] <jose> I guess we can delay publishing to later today
[22:47] <PaulW2U> jose: I see you've removed Randall's posts. I can see his site now although using dig I can see that DNS hasn't propagated fully.
[22:47] <PaulW2U> I'm sure all will be back within the hour.


[10:24] <somaunn> hello y a quelqu'un ?
[11:52] <andresmujica> go bug jam!!!
[11:53] <dholbach> hiya andresmujica
[11:53] <fcestrada> dholbach: hi
[11:53] <dholbach> hiya fcestrada, hi Hew
[11:53] <Hew> Hi dholbach :-)
[11:54] <dholbach> hiya CrownAmbassador
[11:54] <jpds> Morning dholbach.
[11:54] <dholbach> hiya selinuxium
[11:54] <dholbach> hey jpds
[11:54] <selinuxium> hi dholbach  :)
[11:54] <selinuxium> I am on a train and may periodically lose connection...
[11:54] <andresmujica> hi dholbach
[11:55] <CrownAmbassador> Hiya dholbach!
[11:55] <dholbach> selinuxium: thanks for joining in :)
[11:55] <jpds> selinuxium: They'll be logs.
[11:55] <dholbach> hey Twinkletoes|W
[11:55] <CrownAmbassador> Thanks for the message in #ubuntu-bugs!
[11:55] <Twinkletoes|W> dholbach: What's all this about then?
[11:55] <selinuxium> dholbach: l am hosting the London BugJam... I was looking for someone to take the lead... :)   But no probs looking myself...
[11:55] <dholbach> Twinkletoes|W: we're gearing up towards https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam - this will be a session to talk about how we're doing it, what works, what doesn't, etc.
[11:55] <dholbach> hiya thekorn
[11:56] <thekorn> hui dholbach
[11:56] <dholbach> hey savvas
[11:56] <thekorn> and all other bug jammers
[11:56] <popey> moo
[11:56] <dholbach> hey popey!
[11:56] <savvas> hey :)
[11:56] <selinuxium> a bit off topic, but will there be a MOTU Jam at any point?
[11:57] <selinuxium> popey: :)
[11:57] <dholbach> selinuxium: you mean about packaging stuff etc?
[11:57] <selinuxium> dholbach: yep  :)
[11:57] <dholbach> selinuxium: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/RunningPackagingJam has some information about that :)
[11:57] <dholbach> selinuxium: we run them in the Berlin team and it works great
[11:57] <selinuxium> dholbach: cool
[11:57] <dholbach> hey Tekno, hey syockit, hiya pedro_ :)
[11:57] <Tekno> hey
[11:57] <pedro_> hello folks!
[11:57] <selinuxium> dholbach: it is a bit far to walk  ;)
[11:58] <dholbach> selinuxium: definitely :)
[11:58] <dholbach> hi error404notfound, hi zleap
[11:58] <pedro_> hah nice nick
[11:58] <zleap> thanks
[11:58] <andresmujica> hi pedro
[11:58] <dholbach> 2 minutes left, time to grab another coffee
[11:58] <pedro_> hey andresmujica! nice work on the compiz hug day ;-)
[11:58]  * pedro_ hugs andresmujica
[11:58] <error404notfound> dholbach: hi
[11:59] <selinuxium> dholbach: dependingg on how the bug jam goes, I will try and host a packaging jam
[11:59] <andresmujica> :)  yea !!
[11:59]  * andresmujica hugs back
[11:59] <dholbach> selinuxium: PERFECT :)
[11:59] <dholbach> that's what we like
[11:59] <syockit> seconds left
[11:59] <dholbach> hi christoz
[12:00] <zleap> is there a list of future classroom topics in here
[12:00] <selinuxium> dholbach: I tried to get a mentor years ago but couldn't find one..
[12:00] <dholbach> WELCOME EVERYBODY TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF THE GLOBAL BUG JAM CONSPIRACY!
[12:00] <zleap> i can put a link from the uk south west page
[12:00]  * selinuxium quietens down
[12:00] <dholbach> I'm very happy you guys are here - let's do a quick round of introduction and say where we're from and if our team is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam already :-)
[12:00]  * dholbach is Daniel Holbach from the Berlin team and yes, we're on the page already :)
[12:01]  * jpds is Jonathan Davies from the UK Team, and we have a London venue.
[12:01]  * selinuxium is from UK team and the London jam can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam/London
[12:01]  * pedro_ Pedro Villavicencio from the lovely and sunny Chile and the team is also on the page ;-)
[12:01]  * andresmujica is Andres Mujica from Colombian Team, and yes we're at the wiki page already!
[12:01]  * popey is Alan Pope from the UK Team, and likes ponies.
[12:01]  * InHisName is from Warminster, PA USA is with ubuntu-us-pa  our bugjam is Feb21
[12:02] <dholbach> come on guys... who else do we have here? :)
[12:02] <dholbach> hiya ArepaKing
[12:02]  * fcestrada is Fernando C. Estrada from the Mexico City ;)
[12:02] <selinuxium> ola!
[12:02] <stefanlsd> heys, im here representing the bug jam in South Africa
[12:02] <ArepaKing> Hi Everybody
[12:02] <dholbach> hey stefanlsd
[12:02]  * syockit still not in any team...
[12:03] <dholbach> awesome.... if you only knew how excited I am :)
[12:03] <misterdasher> misterdasher is James Dasher from the North Carolina team, and we're planning a pre-bugjam howto next Saturday.
[12:03] <CrownAmbassador> stafanlsd we need to talk!
[12:03]  * savvas is from Ubuntu-cy, and wants to organise a possible bug jam for 9.04 release party :P
[12:03] <CrownAmbassador> I'm also from SA and didn't even know we have a team!
[12:03]  * ArepaKing is Carlos Lerzundy. He is also from the North Carolina team
[12:03] <dholbach> So how ready is your team for the jam on a scale from 0 to 10? :)
[12:03] <dholbach> hi k0001
[12:03]  * Citizenjoefriday is a third from the NC team
[12:04] <stefanlsd> CrownAmbassador: #ubuntu-za  & http://wiki.ubuntu-za.org/Wiki_Home
[12:04] <savvas> ubuntu-cy is about 1/10 unfortunately - but we're working on it hehe
[12:04] <CrownAmbassador> *twilight zone*
[12:04] <stefanlsd> we also need more planning / people...
[12:04] <misterdasher> is thinking ubunutu-us-nc is a 1 or 2
[12:05] <savvas> stefanlsd: yep, that's my concern as well, very few in number :\
[12:05] <dholbach> savvas, stefanlsd, misterdasher: what's missing? I'd really like us to talk about the problems we're having and how we think we can fix them
[12:05] <fcestrada> ubuntu-mx is about 0 or 1 if you count I'm here
[12:05] <selinuxium> we have a venue and attendees, but no one as yet to lead the jam...
[12:05] <dholbach> fcestrada: definitely 1 :)
[12:05] <dholbach> ok, looks like we have a few topics already
[12:05] <misterdasher> dholbach: iirc, no one has participated.
[12:05] <dholbach> 1) Explanatory Material or a "leader"
[12:06] <dholbach> 2) "Marketing" :)
[12:06] <savvas> dholbach: nothing yet on your behalf, I just have to "propagate" contribution ideology to the whole team. We're going fine until now, I hope I can channel my energy to other members
[12:06] <tuxmaniac> sorry for the interruption and being late. this is Aanjhan from India
[12:06] <dholbach> hey tuxmaniac!
[12:06] <misterdasher> we're figuring out how to run our first ever
[12:06] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam#Material has a bunch of stuff you and your team can take a look at before kicking it off
[12:07] <stefanlsd> dholbach: i think I just need to push it harder. I think we have many people who also feel like they cant contribute. (we need to make sure that everyone feels welcome and will be able to do something).   maybe also just make it a social get together also...
[12:07] <dholbach> there's a presentation somebody can do, about Bugs and Launchpad
[12:07] <dholbach> there's a screencast about bug triage
[12:07] <savvas> dholbach: that would make me mostly an observer for now - I just want to see experiences from other teams and stuff like that :)
[12:07] <dholbach> and lots of links for triage documentation in general
[12:07] <dholbach> pedro_, popey: is there an overlap between the screencast team and the QA/bugsquad team?
[12:08] <dholbach> it'd be nice if we could push out a few more screencasts before the event :)
[12:08] <dholbach> hey robbit
[12:08] <popey> ok, that can be done
[12:08] <robbit> Hi!
[12:08] <pedro_> yup would be nice to have some more inded
[12:08] <dholbach> popey: I'd be happy to upload them to video.ubuntu.com and blog about it
[12:08] <CrownAmbassador> thanks stefanlsd
[12:08] <dholbach> pedro_, popey: do you have an idea about "easy tasks" that could be demonstrated?
[12:09] <andresmujica> pedro / dholbach:  is the odp presentation in spanish yet?
[12:09] <dholbach> one question I get all the time is "how can I change the status of the bug?"
[12:09] <dholbach> andresmujica: no, unfortunately not yet - but it would be AWESOME if it got translated
[12:09] <dholbach> andresmujica: do you think you could ask in your Loco if somebody was willing to do that?
[12:09] <dholbach> I'll try to get it translated into German as well
[12:10] <andresmujica> dholbach: ok, i'm gonna ask for it!! (or do it myself if needed..)
[12:10] <dholbach> thekorn: are you running a bug jam somewhere too?
[12:10] <pedro_> right, well that and things like how can i change the package name, what do i need in order to have permissions to change the importance, etc
[12:10] <dholbach> andresmujica: you're a rock start
[12:10] <pedro_> would be nice to have that  on the screencast as well
[12:10] <dholbach> ... star
[12:10] <andresmujica> at this point there's only one screencast, right?
[12:10] <dholbach> pedro_: maybe we could do a call for "questions" or "tasks" on the bugsquad list?
[12:10] <dholbach> andresmujica: yes, unfortunately
[12:11] <dholbach> we have audio and video interviews with Brian and Jorge about the topic too, but they're very general
[12:11] <dholbach> hey Daviey
[12:11]  * Daviey strolls in late.
[12:11] <Daviey> dholbach: o/
[12:11] <dholbach> hey x1250_
[12:11] <dholbach> andresmujica: please let me know how the translation effort goes - I'll blog about it too
[12:11] <ArepaKing> dholbach: Do you think this screencast can be posted in the bug jam material website? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam#Material)
[12:12] <thekorn> dholbach: well julius and I thought about it some time ago, but no further details until now, will talk to him about it later today
[12:12] <x1250_> hi dholbach
[12:12] <dholbach> ArepaKing: definitely, once we have more they should be listed there
[12:12] <ArepaKing> all right! thank you sir
[12:12] <tuxmaniac> the running bug jam material is pretty good to answer most of the questions. But i feel its too much information overload.
[12:12] <dholbach> thekorn: do you have a mailing list for that area? you could ask other people too
[12:13] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: tell us a bit about your experience - what works well in a bug jam... if you don't want to overload people
[12:13] <tuxmaniac> if there is one signle presentation which shows in very simple terms to kick of bug triaging instead of reding through all these, that will be great
[12:13] <pedro_> dholbach: i think so, yes or perhaps ask to the loco teams what they think needs more explanation, the bugsquad already know those things so we might get wrong info imho
[12:14] <tuxmaniac> because dholbach , people (especially new comers) are not so interested in the RTFM thingi :-) They want to be spoonfed initially. and then the remaining catches up like fire
[12:14] <dholbach> pedro_: sounds good - I'll add it to my TODO list to ask on loco-contacts
[12:14] <pedro_> awesome
[12:14] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: alright... let's talk about how to actually run the bug jam a bit later
[12:14] <dholbach> do we have good tips for marketing the event?
[12:14] <tuxmaniac> ok
[12:15] <dholbach> so what I did in Berlin was mail the Berlin team mailing list and blog about the event a couple of times
[12:15] <dholbach> also I tried to rope in other people to help a bit with the organisation, so it wasn't me alone :)
[12:16] <dholbach> I think I heard of other Locos that put up posters in bookshops and universities and LUGs
[12:16] <dholbach> that might work very well too
[12:16] <thekorn> dholbach: hmm, don't know, I'm not active in the local scene, julius is, will aks him about it
[12:16] <dholbach> thekorn: great
[12:17] <dholbach> popey, pedro_, stefanlsd, tuxmaniac: any other good advice from the marketing department?
[12:17] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: yes. and not mailing only to Ubuntu-XX loco lists but also to other LUGs around will have additional coverage
[12:17] <popey> blog / twitter / facebook / identi.ca / use them all
[12:17] <popey> talk about it often
[12:18] <stefanlsd> tuxmaniac: yeah, good idea, will get it onto our local lugs...
[12:18] <dholbach> forums too
[12:18] <dholbach> that sounds very good already
[12:19] <popey> yeah
[12:19] <dholbach> we're now around 3 weeks away from the event, we should definitely ramp up the marketing efforts now :)
[12:19] <popey> there is a facebook group - i created it a week or so ago
[12:19] <popey> need people to join and use it
[12:19] <dholbach> wow
[12:19] <tuxmaniac> stefanlsd: the thing is not to restrict ourselves with Ubuntu-xx lists. I found out from the past many dont join ubuntu-xx lists but just join the local lugs
[12:19] <tuxmaniac> popey: wow. linky please
[12:20] <stefanlsd> tuxmaniac: thanks. put it in my to do list
[12:20] <popey> i can't right now, being dragged to the pub for lunch
[12:20] <dholbach> there was a bunch of people saying "we're not very organised yet" - which problems are you guys having at the moment?
[12:20] <andresmujica> popey: the name at least ;)
[12:20] <selinuxium_> lucky popey!
[12:20] <popey> just search facebook for bug jam
[12:20]  * andresmujica searching
[12:21] <tuxmaniac> the EPFL lausanne crowd are ardent followers of Ubuntu. we infact distributed Ubuntu cds
[12:21] <tuxmaniac> http://tinyurl.com/d4vmdh
[12:21] <tuxmaniac> ^^ facebook
[12:21] <dholbach> did you all find a venue already?
[12:21] <Daviey> dholbach: The obv. things are the problems at the momnet - getting venue organised/confirmed / day structure / etc
[12:22] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: i have to check with the guys back in idnia the scenario :-)
[12:22] <tuxmaniac> will get things in place by this weekend
[12:22] <stefanlsd> Still need a fixed venue. I have my office / house as fallback.
[12:22] <dholbach> office/house as fallback is a good start already :)
[12:22]  * dholbach remembers the first Berlin release party in my appartment with 40 people :)
[12:23] <dholbach> nuts :)
[12:23] <dholbach> Daviey: where does your local LUG meet?
[12:23] <dholbach> Daviey: is there any university / school nearby that might offer space?
[12:23] <Daviey> dholbach: A attend a few LUG's... mainly university or cafe 's
[12:23] <dholbach> or a pub with Wifi
[12:24] <Daviey> dholbach: I think we have a couple of venue's sorted now \o/
[12:24] <dholbach> maybe it helps to talk to organisers of those LUGs
[12:24] <andresmujica> we`re planning a preparation session  for feb7 and the main event at feb21, how can i motivate them to assist to both?... we're about 11 subscribed
[12:24] <dholbach> most of them will be happy and very pleased to see people getting active about helping out directly in a distribution
[12:24] <tuxmaniac> on a lighter nte.. a pub with wifi is slightly a bad choice. once i remember we going in to have a good hackathon and the next thing I could remember was everybody calling up each other whether they reached home safe :P
[12:25] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: haha
[12:25] <dholbach> andresmujica: did you do a public call for participation in a blog and the mailing lists, etc already?
[12:25] <tuxmaniac> wait! a flash came through. some people who attend fosdem could do some marketing as well
[12:26] <dholbach> andresmujica: definitely add your information to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam so people who wonder about the event can get back in touch with you
[12:26] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: sounds good
[12:27] <tuxmaniac> i am in representing both Fedora and Ubuntu at fosdem :-)
[12:27] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: may be a reply to the "Me at fosdem" thread on Ubuntu LocoContact list will end up having some result?
[12:27] <selinuxium> can some one link me to the logs, train journey keeps kicking me off the net...
[12:27] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: worth trying it :)
[12:27] <dholbach> selinuxium: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/01/30/%23ubuntu-classroom.txt
[12:28] <dholbach> will be 15 minutes delayed
[12:28] <selinuxium> cheers dholbach
[12:28] <dholbach> alright
[12:28] <selinuxium> that is fine
[12:28] <jpds> (updates hourly).
[12:28] <andresmujica> ok!, yes, we've got the post -and thread- at mailing list!   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-co/2009-January/013340.html
[12:28] <dholbach> Daviey asked about the organisation or rather day structure
[12:28] <tuxmaniac> selinuxium: irssi + ssh + screen :-)
[12:28] <dholbach> let's talk about that a bit now
[12:29] <dholbach> the most important thing about the whole event is: make it fun
[12:29] <selinuxium> tuxmaniac:   :P
[12:29] <dholbach> it really does not matter much how many bugs each loco worked on, but it should have been fun and people should have had a chance to see what it's like
[12:29] <dholbach> so do we have some experience from the last time in here?
[12:30]  * selinuxium cancels his order for a riding crop....
[12:30] <dholbach> tuxmaniac was right in saying "don't overload people"
[12:31] <tuxmaniac> yes. last time a lot of people were very very enthusiastic during the preparatory sessions
[12:31] <dholbach> it's perfectly fine to do a short presentation in the beginning to get everybody on the same page
[12:31] <dholbach> but afterwards it's a good idea to turn off the projector or get away from "in front of the class"
[12:31] <tuxmaniac> but during the GBJ days I felt the enthu kept dying.. May be because there wasnt specific targets set?
[12:31] <dholbach> else you'll have the problem that people expect more presentation or more "class" :)
[12:31] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: specific targets definitely help
[12:32] <dholbach> pedro_ is our man here who can talk about targets :)
[12:32] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: also what I found out helps is grouping people
[12:32] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: like we have during the Hug days right. a set of bugs to be triaged
[12:32] <dholbach> so they can try to work together on a set of bugs
[12:32] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: yep. perfect
[12:32] <stefanlsd> is there a recommended list of targets or tasks.. maybe in levels from beginners to int to advanced?
[12:33] <tuxmaniac> stefanlsd: exactly what i was coming to nest. the levels also somehow mentioned. or some experienced folks get toghetre and pick up some bugs prior
[12:33] <dholbach> stefanlsd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugKam has a few
[12:33] <tuxmaniac> and throw it on the team
[12:33] <andresmujica> making metric targets would be to cumbersome?  i've proposed some metrics in our GBJ event.. but don't know if that would be too serious...
[12:33]  * fcestrada very interested in the stefanlsd's question.
[12:34] <dholbach> andresmujica: what kind of metrics?
[12:34] <dholbach> pedro_ is our man here who can talk about targets :)
[12:34] <pedro_> yeah we have collected some easy tasks on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/EasyTasks
[12:34] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: you scared him away once. dont do that again :P
[12:34] <pedro_> they are sorted by difficulty
[12:34] <pedro_> and we also add some examples next to them
[12:34] <andresmujica> assigning bugs to the right package: 200,   finding duplicates: 10 ... things like that
[12:34] <pedro_> I'd recommend to start with bugs without a package
[12:34] <pedro_> those are the ones easier to triage
[12:35] <tuxmaniac> pedro_: can we have them on the GBJ, runing bug jam material wiki may be? is it out of context there?
[12:35] <pedro_> tuxmaniac: they are there
[12:35] <andresmujica> yeap, bugs without package is our main objective...
[12:35] <pedro_> just scroll down a bit on the GBJ page
[12:36] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: it might be worth picking just a few of those bugs and say "let's get cracking on these together"
[12:36] <tuxmaniac> yes
[12:36] <pedro_> if you have people with more experience you can grab some other bugs like the ones that need to be upstreamed and make jcastro happy
[12:36] <dholbach> hehe
[12:37] <pedro_> if you think we should add some other bugs to the list please do contact me
[12:37] <pedro_> or to dholbach, jcastro
[12:37]  * dholbach nods
[12:37] <tuxmaniac> pedro_: sure. i will look into those Science bugs and see
[12:38] <stefanlsd> pedro_: how about confirming bugs
[12:38] <dholbach> stefanlsd: definitely good idea too
[12:38] <pedro_> stefanlsd: yeah definitely
[12:38]  * pedro_ taking notes
[12:38] <dholbach> stefanlsd: make sure to people to add as much information to the bugs as possible
[12:38] <dholbach> pedro_: you need to blog all this! :-)
[12:38] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: you are slightly faster than me in mailing the list :-)
[12:39] <pedro_> dholbach: yeah will do it ;-)
[12:39] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/UsingDevelopmentReleases is a useful guide if people want to actually test and work on jaunty
[12:39] <dholbach> ...... in a SAFE way :)
[12:40] <pedro_> hehe
[12:40] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: thats a very nice thing. may be some people can download the alpha isos and have them ready and distribute during the event
[12:40] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: sure, why not
[12:40] <dholbach> do we have any more open questions?
[12:40] <fcestrada> dholbach: how to identify this kind of easy bugs?, pick a random bug is a good idea, using harvest or what's the way?
[12:40] <tuxmaniac> so that people dont waste time in getting the isos down during the GBJ. distribute, use the live cd, triage report bugs :-)
[12:41] <dholbach> fcestrada: only if they actually want to work on fixing the bug
[12:41] <andresmujica> dholbach: about metrics, what do u think?
[12:41] <dholbach> fcestrada: I'd say that's more for experienced bug triage people only
[12:41] <fcestrada> :(
[12:41] <dholbach> fcestrada: we had people in Berlin who said "What's a bug?" and "What's Launchpad?"
[12:41] <dholbach> fcestrada: it completely depends on who attends your event
[12:42] <dholbach> if it's a bunch of hackers or experienced bugsquad members, that's cool - go wild on Harvest and fix bugs :-)
[12:42] <stefanlsd> Thinking about it, i dont really want people to get bogged down and stuck on really technical difficult bugs...  lets get them excited to go home and carry on doing the other stuff
[12:42] <stefanlsd> it also pulls the mentors away from all the quick answerable questions for others
[12:42] <dholbach> andresmujica: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam/Stories :-)
[12:42] <ArepaKing> what is the "other stuff" could you please make some examples?
[12:43] <dholbach> andresmujica: if you take notes during the event about what you guys did, etc. - it'd be AWESOME if you wrote a small report about it, so we can show the world how much your event ROCKed
[12:43] <dholbach> ArepaKing: pedro_ can talk about easy bug targets - what we already identified was:
[12:43] <dholbach>  - take New bugs and try to confirm the issue and add information
[12:43] <andresmujica> ok, i'll get the idea...  :)
[12:44] <dholbach>  - take bugs without a package and try to assign them to the right place
[12:44] <stefanlsd> ArepaKing: I think those easy tasks as dholbach was saying.  Like what is Launchpad. Make your account.  Find bugs without packages, assign those. Add more information. pedro_ showed us https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/EasyTasks  which i think is great
[12:45] <ArepaKing> ok.. understood.. thanks!
[12:45] <dholbach> if you come across other categories of easy bugs, I'm sure pedro_ would appreciate it
[12:45] <pedro_> btw if you want to start doing some triage for being more well prepared for the GBJ, just take a target from that list (EasyTasks) and drop by #ubuntu-bugs at any time if you have some questions
[12:46] <dholbach> pedro_: exactly - that's great
[12:46] <dholbach> definitely let people know that they can easily talk to the rest of the world and get help
[12:46] <dholbach> ... and have fun
[12:46] <pedro_> we're running bug days the Thursdays , on those days we focus on a target for example yesterday we did one based on Compiz
[12:46] <dholbach> ... and find new friends there :)
[12:46] <stefanlsd> dholbach, pedro_ : i assume we can tell the guys to log onto  #ubuntu-bugs and just ask if they are unsure...
[12:46] <dholbach> stefanlsd: definitely
[12:46] <pedro_> and the next one is going to be based on Bugs without a package (bling bling one of the easier tasks)
[12:46] <stefanlsd> kk. i think thats answered
[12:46] <tuxmaniac> ArepaKing: another easy task could be to check for bugs reported in Hardy or revious distros and re-ask info whether they still occur in intrepid for further info if the package has had updates
[12:47] <pedro_> stefanlsd: yes sr
[12:47] <stefanlsd> dholbach: talk bout 5-a-day!!  :)
[12:47] <ArepaKing> that is a good suggestion tuxmaniac..
[12:47] <dholbach> stefanlsd: not yet - next week I plan to rework it with bdmurray
[12:48] <pedro_> tuxmaniac: might be tricky to collect a list with that, since launchpad doesn't support release versions nor package versions :-(
[12:48] <dholbach> stefanlsd: but I definitely plan to make some noise about it then :)
[12:48] <stefanlsd> dholbach: kk. i think it would be awesome to track how people / teams are doing.
[12:48] <dholbach> pedro_: "filed date" could maybe help? :)
[12:48] <dholbach> stefanlsd: definitely - that's the plan
[12:48] <dholbach> stefanlsd: but we want to make it easier and get more data from LP directly
[12:48] <stefanlsd> and then u need to find a sponsor to sponsor a reward for the person / team :)
[12:49] <tuxmaniac> pedro_: yeah I know. But i guess it should not be very difficult with the [hardy] tags attached to some bugs that are still in confirmed state and stuff. Yes, lot of manual work. But worth the clearance IMO
[12:49] <dholbach> stefanlsd: we should ask the guy with the plane about it :-)
[12:49] <pedro_> dholbach: mm yeah, i guess bdmurray have something like that, will have a look
[12:49]  * dholbach is VERY VERY VERY excited
[12:49] <dholbach> Is there any other problems you and your loco are still seeing?
[12:49] <stefanlsd> dholbach: heh. how about the guy that went to space.  t-shirts would be cool
[12:50] <dholbach> stefanlsd: that's the one :)
[12:50] <dholbach> Or do you have other ideas how we could pimp the event a bit more?
[12:50] <dholbach> Did you all blog enough about it already?
[12:50] <stefanlsd> I think we just need to put it out there a bit more, make some excitement.
[12:50] <dholbach> and push other locos into action
[12:50] <stefanlsd> I also think we need to target it more non techincal
[12:51] <andresmujica> hmm, i was wondering if the SPANISH/LATAM teams can get together on a channel during the event, you know for spanish fun ;)
[12:51] <dholbach> I think everybody of us should mail like 5 other Loco leaders to get them to organise a jam :)
[12:51] <stefanlsd> I think many people are scared its a technical thing.  We need to make the point that regular users can make a big difference and contribute to something that they use everyday
[12:51] <tuxmaniac> stefanlsd: +1
[12:52] <pedro_> andresmujica: perhaps at #ubuntu-es ? for general questions would be nice indeed
[12:52] <dholbach> stefanlsd: good idea - would be nice to show in a blog post "this is an example how easily you can make Ubuntu a better place - this is what we're going to at the Jam"
[12:52] <fcestrada> andresmujica: that's a great idea, we are a few people, but maybe make a difference if we have an ubuntu-bugs-es irc or something like that.
[12:52] <andresmujica> yeah, more like #ubuntu-bug-es  as #ubuntu-es is somehow populated
[12:53] <pedro_> andresmujica, fcestrada yup wanna send an email to the amigos latinos? I'll announce that on my loco team
[12:53] <dholbach> any more questions? everything settled? does everybody have a clear idea of what needs to happen next? :)
[12:54] <pedro_> world domination!
[12:54] <andresmujica> yeap, sure.. to the loco-leaders... :)
[12:54] <dholbach> ahaha
[12:54] <stefanlsd> hehe. yeah.  thanks!
[12:54] <tuxmaniac> pedro_: lol
[12:54] <Daviey> thanks dholbach
[12:54] <fcestrada> ubuntu-es is good all the time for general questions, I'm talking to have a channel for this kind of activities, like a latam bug jam contributing to the global bug jam.
[12:55] <misterdasher> thanks, y'all --
[12:55] <andresmujica> me again nagging about metris.. last year the target was 1000 bugs..?? according to some blogs i've read??
[12:55] <dholbach> ok my friends... We're ready to really bring it on!
[12:55] <pedro_> fcestrada: yes got the idea ;-)
[12:55]  * tuxmaniac hugs dholbach .. (lets start a dholbach hug party again :P)
[12:55]  * dholbach hugs y'all back :-)
[12:55]  * pedro_ hugs the whole channel
[12:55] <fcestrada> thanks dholbach, you're the man!
[12:55] <dholbach> I want to see some blogging, more publicity and please: go and nag a few other loco leaders to join in on the fun! :-)
[12:56]  * andresmujica hugs everyone!!
[12:56] <dholbach> thanks a bunch everybody
[12:56] <dholbach> the world definitely needs more people like you
[12:57] <dholbach> have a great day!
[12:57] <stefanlsd> :)
[12:57] <fcestrada> dholbach: thanks, same to you :)
[12:57] <andresmujica> fcestrada, pedro:  about the channel .... which one??
[12:59] <fcestrada> I don't know about the name, it's great if not only focus in bugs, maybe mentoring sessions, but maybe an opportunity to involve people who can't assist, feel the emotion of participate in that via irc.
[13:02] <andresmujica> so maybe it's ok to use #ubuntu-es
[13:04] <fcestrada> andresmujica: No, ubuntu-es have the focus to general questions about Ubuntu in spanish, maybe something like ubuntu-motu-es or something like refers to involve novice people in the ubuntu development of course, in spanish ;)
[13:04] <pedro_> andresmujica: gbj-es ?
[13:08] <fcestrada> pedro_: I don't think so, gbj-es have a very specific (and less intuitive) name, I suggest a general channel for ubuntu bug days, sessions, involve in development, and topics like that.
[13:08] <pedro_> fcestrada: the channel is going to be used for the gbj isnt?
[13:09] <pedro_> fcestrada: to be honest i don't care too much about the name, let's use ubuntu-classroom-es then which involve more things like you said
[13:09] <fcestrada> pedro_: of course used for the gbj, but it's great if we mantain that channel, and not only for one day and lose the contact.
[13:11] <fcestrada> mmm, I supposed it's very idealistic :P
[13:12] <pedro_> fcestrada: your call then, let me know about the name when you decided it so can announce it at my loco too ;-)
[13:12] <fcestrada> Anyway, I need to prepare for the work, 7:12am here. See you guys, and thanks for all! ;)
[13:13] <fcestrada> pedro_ what's about ubuntu-motu-es? think it about and ping me if you're ok ;) Buen día :P
[13:57] <cfoch> hola
[14:01] <somaunn> hola
[14:05] <cfoch> tengo un problema con el emesene
[14:05] <cfoch> cuando me kiero conectar se pone la ventana de color gris, y no responde
[14:06] <cfoch> antes me conectaba y ahora ya no
[14:06] <cfoch> ayudenme porfa
[14:19] <Mamarok> cfoch: per Italiano, vai sul canale #ubuntu-it
[14:20] <Mamarok> e para Español, #ubuntu-es
[14:20] <syockit> that's not portuguese?
[14:20] <Mamarok> sorry, mixed up :)
[15:46] <BUGabundo> jorge asked to come by and say Hi!
[15:47] <BUGabundo> Fri Jan 30 15:47:00 UTC 2009
[18:10] <smarter> C'est quoi le/les bouquins de référence en C?
[18:11] <smarter> oops, wrong channel, sorry :P
[23:45] <jcastro> ~15 minute warning!
[23:45] <istaz> for?
[23:45] <jcastro> How to Run a Bug Jam
[23:46] <threethirty> gday all
[23:55] <_patrickd> morning all
[23:56] <j1mc> man, there's just so many bugs...
[23:56] <j1mc> If only someone would hold a session to help us get people together to triage and fix the bugs.
[23:57] <j1mc> i think that would be a great idea
[23:57] <_patrickd> but who could do such a wonderful thing
[23:57] <_patrickd> ?
[23:57] <j1mc> yeah... i don't know.


[06:32] <genii> When they came out of the bank fired shots and I got shotgun pellets in my leg had to go to hospital
[16:00]  * slangasek waves
[16:00] <mvo> hi
[16:00] <jodh> o/
[16:00] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar  5 16:00:52 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:00] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:00] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity mvo sil2100 robru cyphermox)
[16:01] <slangasek> mvo robru bdmurray caribou slangasek barry cyphermox jodh infinity doko sil2100 stgraber
[16:01] <slangasek> (base)vorlon@virgil:~/canonical$
[16:01] <mvo> I win!
[16:01] <slangasek> mvo: and go!
[16:01] <mvo> click:
[16:01] <mvo> - lp:~mvo/click/fix-autopkgtest and new <IP_ADDRESS> version
[16:01] <mvo> snappy:
[16:01] <mvo> - new snappy-go features: login (with 2fa), build
[16:01] <mvo> - no more dbus in snappy-go
[16:01] <mvo> - fixes, cleanup
[16:01] <mvo> - big refactor of ubuntu-core-upgrader, fix hardware.yaml unpack
[16:01] <mvo> misc:
[16:01] <mvo> - fix freeradius ftbfs and upstart reload bug
[16:01] <mvo> (done)
[16:01] <slangasek> robru:
[16:02] <robru> * CI Train
[16:02] <robru>   - refactoring continues, increased overall test coverage from 75 to 82%
[16:02] <robru>   - achieved 100% test coverage in merge_clean.py and branchhandling.py
[16:02] <robru>   - merge_clean.py shrank from 246 to 81 lines, without feature regressions.
[16:02] <robru>   - branchhandling.py shrank from 348 to 286 lines, also without feature regressions.
[16:02] <robru>   - fixed a bug affecting -gles packages where both gles and non-gles packages would clobber each other when being pushed to launchpad at publish time.
[16:02] <robru>   - fixed a bug preventing jobs from aborting when users abort jenkins jobs
[16:02] <robru>   - fixed bug in publish job which allowed it to silently succeed even though publication had failed.
[16:02] <robru>   - consolidated various version-mangling functions into shiny new version.py file
[16:02] <robru>   - fixed bug where build job was not timing out while waiting for packages to appear in ppa in certain conditions
[16:02] <robru>   - added 2 hour timeout on depwait packages, meaning there are no longer any conditions in which the build job can sit & spin forever.
[16:02] <robru>   - various and sundry cleanups, readability improvements, etc
[16:02] <robru> * CI Engine
[16:02] <robru>   - slowly getting up to speed on the ticket system, submitted first branch towards replacing spreadsheet
[16:02] <slangasek> barry: hi, the order is mvo robru bdmurray caribou slangasek barry cyphermox jodh infinity doko sil2100 stgraber
[16:02] <caribou> o/
[16:02] <mvo> robru: it sounds like you have fun!
[16:02] <mvo> impressive results :)
[16:02] <robru> mvo: thanks ;-)
[16:03] <bdmurray> robru: all done?
[16:03] <robru> bdmurray: yeah
[16:03] <bdmurray> irc discussion with thedac regarding errors writing cores to swift
[16:03] <bdmurray> worked with thedac to increase --timeout for gunicorn daisy FEs to avoid OOPSes when writing cores to swift (set to 40s)
[16:03] <bdmurray> investigation into OOPSes when submitting cores to daisy
[16:03] <bdmurray> sorted out daisy / gunicorn logging issues
[16:03] <bdmurray> had daisy updated on staging and production to resolve logging issues
[16:03] <bdmurray> updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker/ServerArchitecture with information about more tables
[16:03] <bdmurray> updated daisy charm to properly set permissions for daisy app / gunicorn
[16:03] <bdmurray> investigation into how to discount package-from-proposed crashes in phased-updater regression check
[16:03] <bdmurray> worked on improving the fix for unattended-upgrades bug 1422345 per stgraber
[16:03] <bdmurray> submitted improved fix for unattended-upgrades bug to mvo on github
[16:03] <bdmurray> updated bug bot to better process SRU verification removal candidates
[16:04] <bdmurray> helped Riddell upload ubuntu-release-upgrader for vivid (test failure)
[16:04] <bdmurray> improved missing ddeb detector code to use a known list of missing ddebs and not notify about those
[16:04] <bdmurray> fixed error with linux apport hook and BootDmesg
[16:04] <bdmurray> bug management discussion with cyphermox
[16:04] <bdmurray> investigation into gvfs halted phased update
[16:04] <bdmurray> updated phased-updater code to include link to phasing report in email messages
[16:04] <bdmurray> sponsored patch to T,U fixing bug LP: #1422359
[16:04] <mvo> bdmurray: thanks for the unattended-upgrades branch!
[16:04] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:04] <caribou> Bugfix :
[16:04] <bdmurray> mvo: is it merged?
[16:04] <caribou>  - Misc SRU follow-up
[16:04] <mvo> bdmurray: *cough* not yet :(
[16:04] <caribou> - openstack : instances left dying : trying to reproduce
[16:05] <caribou> - openafs dkms build : SRU completed (LP: #1423151)
[16:05] <mvo> bdmurray: but soon!
[16:05] <caribou> (done)à
[16:06] <caribou> slangasek: all yours
[16:06]  * slangasek nods
[16:06] <slangasek>  * snappy alpha-3 milestone released this week
[16:06] <slangasek>  * reviewing
[16:06] <slangasek>  * partner calls regarding new server opportunities
[16:06] <slangasek>  * hiring: going through resumes now for Java engineer role, to schedule
[16:07] <slangasek> interviews next week
[16:07] <slangasek>  * making progress on the phone channel refactoring proposal, will be
[16:07] <slangasek> submitted for consideration this week
[16:07] <slangasek>  * systemd freeze exception: possibly flipping the switch today provided a
[16:07] <slangasek> release FFe review
[16:07] <slangasek> (done)
[16:07] <slangasek> ok I have no idea what 'reviewing' in there was, ignore that line ;P
[16:07] <barry> system-image: refined server merge proposal. LP: #1423622.  si 3.0 betas to PPA
[16:07] <barry> qa sprint: ongoing
[16:07] <barry> other: LP: #1363642 (debian bug #744145)
[16:07] <barry> --done--
[16:07] <cyphermox>  * console-setup merge for 1.108:
[16:07] <cyphermox>    - finish testing install, upgrade, etc.
[16:07] <cyphermox>    - fixing issue with mangled keyboard/layout names
[16:08] <cyphermox>    - fix typo in config script which broke layout selection skipping.
[16:08] <cyphermox>    - FFe for upload
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * Upload kbd to fix console-setup-mini being uninstallable.
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * Removed console-setup-freebsd from console-setup (uninstallable)
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * update kbd for console-setup-mini's new depends on console-setup-linux.
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * debian-installer, installation-guide:
[16:08] <cyphermox>    - update to use --- instead of -- as a separator
[16:08] <cyphermox>      - this also fixes OEM mode, accessibility not working on server.
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * update debian-cd to use --- as separator on built ISOs.
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * discussed boot parameters for the installer with smoser.
[16:08] <cyphermox>    - bug 1402042, and how it relates to -- vs. ---.
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * debugging grub2 bug 1349538
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * walked through/documented steps to test ubiquity changes with robert_ancell.
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * reviewed some merges from Yu Ning for usb-creator.
[16:08] <cyphermox>  * some discussion about BlueZ 5.
[16:08] <cyphermox> (done)
[16:09] <slangasek> jodh:
[16:09] <jodh> * misc:
[16:09] <jodh>   - Appraisal work.
[16:09] <jodh> * snappy:
[16:09] <jodh>   - logging discussions.
[16:09] <jodh>   - Promotion image testing.
[16:09] <jodh>   - Raised MP for bug 1418966.
[16:09] <jodh>   - Fixed bug 1428276.
[16:09] <jodh>   - Reviewed a bunch of branches and raised a few minor MPs.
[16:09] <jodh>   - Finished adding more unit tests and functional tests to
[16:09] <jodh>     ubuntu-core-upgrader (now landed).
[16:09] <jodh>   - First pass at adding locking primitives to snappy
[16:09] <jodh>     (including new test goodness :)
[16:09] <jodh> 𐄍
[16:10] <slangasek> infinity sent his regrets for this morning
[16:10] <slangasek> doko:
[16:10] <doko> - prepare binutils update for trusty-proposed
[16:10] <doko> - gcc-4.9 update for vivid
[16:10] <doko> - GCC 5: updates, reducing and filing upstream issues for ICEs
[16:10] <doko> - golang, move gofmt to use alternatives
[16:10] <doko> - handle a bunch of MIR's
[16:10] <doko> - start fixing GCC 5 issues in packages
[16:10] <doko> (done)
[16:11] <slangasek> and sil2100 isn't in here
[16:11] <slangasek> so stgraber
[16:12] <slangasek> stgraber: here?
[16:12] <stgraber> yep
[16:12] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:12] <slangasek> oh
[16:12] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:12] <slangasek> stgraber:
[16:12] <stgraber> Short week, was off on Tuesday and Wednesday.
[16:12] <stgraber>
[16:12] <stgraber>  - LXD
[16:12] <stgraber>    - Released LXD 0.2
[16:12] <stgraber>    - Various feature work for 0.3 (reworked the exec code, fixed testsuite, translation, ...)
[16:12] <stgraber>    - Plenty of code reviews and bug handling
[16:12] <stgraber>    - Preparing for 0.3, due Tuesday
[16:13] <stgraber>  - System image
[16:13] <stgraber>    - Code review and discussion with Barry
[16:13] <stgraber>  - Admin paperwork (HR reviews, expense report, travel plans, ...)
[16:13] <stgraber>
[16:13] <stgraber> (done)
[16:13] <slangasek> thanks
[16:13] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:13] <barry> stgraber: did you look at the updated mp?
[16:13] <caribou> I have had a request for a MIR for openafs following a dkms breakage with the new Trusty kernel
[16:13] <stgraber> barry: haven't yet, no
[16:14] <barry> stgraber: k, no worries
[16:14] <caribou> the dkms build is not tested, hence a change in the dentry structure broke the openafs module rebuild
[16:15] <caribou> would such situation be better covered if openAFS would be included in main ?
[16:15] <slangasek> caribou: how does the package being in main or not relate to the dkms build not being tested?
[16:15] <slangasek> I think putting it in main is a rather heavyweight solution for addressing the package not being tested on kernel updates
[16:15] <caribou> slangasek: that's the question I have : having it in main would not give us better result on such cases
[16:16] <caribou> slangasek: especially since the src pkg build quite a chunk of packages.
[16:16] <slangasek> because main implies security review and security support, when all it seems you're asking for is to keep the package from regressing
[16:16] <caribou> apw did sponsor the upload for the SRU so I did talk to him about this
[16:16] <caribou> slangasek: indeed. Good then, that's the answer I was after, thanks
[16:16] <slangasek> caribou: so we now have autopkgtest support for SRUs
[16:17] <slangasek> it would be good to have a dkms build as an autopkgtest in the openafs package (and I would accept an SRU for this)
[16:17] <caribou> slangasek: ok, I will look into this
[16:17] <slangasek> then http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html would report the dkms failure ... er I think, unless the kernel packages are handled *too* specially on there
[16:18] <slangasek> bdmurray: ^^ would we get revdep autopkgtest results displayed for the kernel?
[16:18] <slangasek> oh, but the other problem is that openafs-modules-dkms doesn't actually depend on a kernel package, because that has side effects
[16:18] <caribou> slangasek: in that case, it would be the openafs-modules-dkms package that would fail, woudn't it ?
[16:19] <slangasek> so step 1) openafs should have an autopkgtest to prove the dkms module is buildable
[16:19] <apw> slangasek, i thought we had automatically implied autopkgtests for dkms things now
[16:19] <slangasek> apw: oh?  I don't know about this
[16:19] <apw> what we don't have is implied relationships between the dkms packages and the kernel
[16:19] <slangasek> caribou: yes, and the test failure of a reverse dependency is treated as a regression in the package that changed
[16:20] <caribou> slangasek: got it
[16:20] <slangasek> apw: ok, so is that somewhere in the CI team's backlog? :)
[16:21] <slangasek> caribou: anyway, hopefully that helps as far as identifying the "right answer"... there are probably still a few pieces to be put in place before it's fully implemented
[16:21] <sil2100> o/
[16:21] <apw> slangasek, that i do not know, i know we do have dkms testing, and we have been talking about using the results there to block the kernle via the britney blocks
[16:21] <sil2100> Sorry guys, my lunch shifted and it happened during the meeting
[16:21] <slangasek> sil2100: hey there :)
[16:21] <sil2100> I completely missed it... can I still put my status update?
[16:21] <sil2100> ;)
[16:22] <slangasek> apw: yes, exactly - though for SRUs we don't use britney so the blocks don't make a difference AFAIK
[16:22] <slangasek> apw: on the other hand, you could mark the linux SRU bugs 'verification-failed'...?
[16:22] <slangasek> apw: (with a bot)
[16:22] <slangasek> (and a pointer to the test results)
[16:22] <slangasek> sil2100: yes, go ahead
[16:22] <sil2100> Ok, a quick one then from my side:
[16:23] <sil2100> - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails
[16:23] <sil2100> - Documenting the early ww09-2015 milestone on the reports page
[16:23] <sil2100> - Clean-up in blocker bugs and ubuntu-rtm silos
[16:23] <sil2100> - Minor spreadsheet script fixes
[16:23] <sil2100> - Send out request to developers regarding the QA sign-off procedures
[16:23] <sil2100>   * Announcements, annoucements, announcements
[16:23] <sil2100> - Patch pilot sessions:
[16:23] <sil2100>   * Sponsored trusty upload for virtualbox, prepare bug to include SRU information
[16:23] <sil2100>   * Prepared a package for httptunnel, modified the patch, did a test-build in a PPA
[16:23] <sil2100>   * Looking into cryptkeeper proposed debdiff
[16:23] <sil2100> - Ubuntu Engineering Live!
[16:23] <sil2100> - RTM Status meetings
[16:23] <sil2100> - Resolving a FTBFS for UITK -gles, offering packaging advice
[16:23] <sil2100> - Prepare custom tarball for ubuntu-rtm mako (updated termminal)
[16:23] <sil2100> (done)
[16:23] <sil2100> Never again late lunch
[16:23] <robru> sil2100: late lunch? or early dinner?
[16:24] <sil2100> hm, depends, since our lunch is usually the main meal
[16:24] <robru> interesting
[16:24] <sil2100> So we usually eat something more like supper in the evening
[16:25] <robru> sil2100: I didn't know there was a difference between dinner and supper ;-)
[16:25] <slangasek> the main meal is dinner; the evening meal is supper; the noon meal is lunch
[16:25] <slangasek> discuss
[16:25] <robru> T. I. L.
[16:25] <slangasek> or we could adjourn ;)
[16:26] <barry> i prefer brinner
[16:26] <sil2100> hah
[16:26] <caribou> brunch is good too :)
[16:26] <robru> I've often enjoyed a good breakfunch ;-)
[16:26] <sil2100> brlunner
[16:26] <slangasek> but at all costs you should avoid lekfast
[16:26] <robru> lol
[16:26] <sil2100> 3 meals in one
[16:26] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar  5 16:26:31 2015 UTC.
[16:26] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-03-05-16.00.moin.txt
[16:26] <mvo> haha
[16:26] <slangasek> thanks ;)
[16:26] <sil2100> o/
[16:26] <jodh> thanks!
[16:26] <mvo> thanks
[16:26] <caribou> thanks!
[17:01] <dholbach> hello
[17:02] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:02] <elfy> hi
[17:02] <dholbach> #startmeeting
[17:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar  5 17:02:11 2015 UTC.  The chair is dholbach. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:02] <dholbach> #chair czajkowski elfy
[17:02] <meetingology> Current chairs: czajkowski dholbach elfy
[17:02] <dholbach> how are we all doing?
[17:02] <dholbach> looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda it looks like we're meeting up with the IRC Council today
[17:02] <mhall119> hello everyone
[17:02] <dholbach> #chair mhall119
[17:02] <meetingology> Current chairs: czajkowski dholbach elfy mhall119
[17:02] <dholbach> do we have anyone from the IRC Council here?
[17:03]  * mhall119 doesn't see IRC council on that wiki page
[17:04] <dholbach> mhall119, 5th March
[17:04] <mhall119> ah, nvm me, there it is
[17:04] <dholbach> :)
[17:04] <mhall119> just not in the table
[17:04] <dholbach> yeah, it wasn't updated
[17:04] <elfy> no-one reminded them - I pinged irc-ops this morning and mailed them later
[17:05] <dholbach> Pici, Tm_T, elky, hggdh: anyone of you there?
[17:05] <dholbach> flanell doesn't seem to be in #u-meeting
[17:06] <dholbach> if not, we might have to reschedule
[17:06] <elfy> Tm_T wasn't sure if he could make it with travelling
[17:06] <mhall119> did we have anyone else on the schedule for today?
[17:06] <elfy> mhall119: nope that's it
[17:07] <dholbach> ok.. I can take an action to mail the IRC Council to reschedule
[17:07] <dholbach> and we can open the floor to other business?
[17:08] <elfy> yep - works for me
[17:08] <dholbach> cool
[17:08] <dholbach> #topic Any other business
[17:09] <dholbach> there's the membership nomination period going on right now - do we need to start another call for nominees or something?
[17:10] <elfy> got done 2 weeks ago - might be useful to catch membership board to see if they've had any response
[17:11] <dholbach> ok
[17:12] <czajkowski> cool
[17:12] <dholbach> DMB got done
[17:12] <dholbach> are there other boards/councils restaffing now or soon?
[17:12] <elfy> loco is in hand
[17:13] <elfy> then all clear till the wibbly wobbly whinocewos cycle
[17:13] <dholbach> ok, in terms of the loco council, do we need to do anything?
[17:14]  * dholbach just mailed the Membership boards as well
[17:15] <elfy> dholbach: don't think so
[17:15] <dholbach> ok cool
[17:15] <dholbach> I know I still have to participate in the CC interviews :)
[17:15]  * mhall119 casts his vote for wibbly wobbly whinocewos
[17:16] <elfy> bad bad dholbach :p
[17:16] <dholbach> are there any other work items we need to look at now?
[17:16] <Pici> I'm sort of here, but doing work stuff as well... I'd prefer that we reschedule so that some others can attend to.
[17:16] <Pici> too
[17:16] <mhall119> UOS is coming up, we should think about what we want to do in terms of sessions and getting others in the community to participate and propose sessions
[17:17]  * cprofitt waves
[17:17] <elfy> Pici: ok :)
[17:17] <mhall119> hi Pici
[17:17] <Pici> hi!
[17:17] <elfy> hi cprofitt :)
[17:17] <cprofitt> hello elfy
[17:17] <dholbach> mhall119, nice one!
[17:17] <dholbach> Pici, makes sense
[17:17] <dholbach> and hi!
[17:18] <dholbach> mhall119, how do we best organise this? just do a call for sessions, maybe on the community list?
[17:19] <mhall119> dholbach: that, but maybe we should also contact each of the different councils directly and encourage them to have their own plans for recruiting and running sessions
[17:19] <cprofitt> dholbach: community list, fridge and planet?
[17:19] <cprofitt> +1 mhall119
[17:20] <dholbach> yes, makes sense
[17:20] <mhall119> dholbach: please do me a favor and include an appeal for track lead volunteers in whatever is sent out
[17:20] <mhall119> people interested in being a track lead can contact me directly
[17:21] <elfy> perhaps we should think about those teams that have told us "getting people involved is an issue"
[17:21] <elfy> then see if we can get someone from those to run a session
[17:21] <elfy> or rather point them in the right direction
[17:21] <cprofitt> I like that idea a lot elfy
[17:21] <mhall119> yeah, we might need to be pro-active and help them make that happen
[17:22] <cprofitt> perhaps having them hold a session about their team would help
[17:22] <dholbach> mhall119, I didn't agree to send something out yet :-P
[17:22] <mhall119> ok, so we need a doc where we can start putting this list together
[17:22] <cprofitt> we can offer some advice and assistance in making the session happen as well
[17:22] <mhall119> dholbach: I'm pretty sure you did :-P
[17:22] <dholbach> your jedi mind tricks don't work today :-P
[17:22] <elfy> mhall119: a pad would do
[17:23] <dholbach> I like the idea of the pad
[17:23] <cprofitt> dholbach says, this is not the community team member you are looking for. mhall119 looks the other way.
[17:24] <mhall119> elfy: and all: http://pad.ubuntu.com/PkXURXDKrM
[17:24] <mhall119> cprofitt: his german mind-tricks have to affect on me
[17:29] <dholbach> anything else we need to do in terms of UOS planning?
[17:29] <mhall119> "we" being the community council, I don't think so
[17:29] <dholbach> ok
[17:29] <mhall119> "we" being you and I on the community team, yeah, lots
[17:30] <dholbach> haha, yes :)
[17:30] <cprofitt> I think the CC should really encourage teams to get involved from a team level
[17:30] <mhall119> +1
[17:31] <cprofitt> I am also curious if we should allow sessions to be run at any time vs. setting times for them
[17:31] <elfy> well ... it never really worked for one team I'm involved with and the other it's just unlikely to ever happen
[17:31] <mhall119> Summit doesn't really support ad-hoc scheduling
[17:31] <cprofitt> with it being online it might make sense to open that up so people who can not attend due to time restrictions (work, sleep, etc) can attend.
[17:31] <elfy> mhall119: and that's mostly the problem imo
[17:32]  * mhall119 welcomes somebody to come in and replace Summit with something better
[17:32]  * elfy always wonders how many are missing because it IS 2am where they are
[17:33] <cprofitt> mhall119: I wasn't talking about ad-hoc, but the ability to schedule things in a larger window than the typical 8 hour summit bloc. That window made sense when were gathered in a physical location, but less now that it is virutal.
[17:33] <dholbach> maybe we'll manage this time to get a lot of the scheduling doine before UOS itself
[17:33] <elfy> cprofitt: that
[17:33] <cprofitt> I would hope we can schedule ahead of time; that would be my preference
[17:33] <mhall119> cprofitt: we could expand the range of time it's open, sure
[17:33] <cprofitt> that is what I was talking about mhall119
[17:33] <elfy> seems that the majority running it are either US or EU time(s)
[17:34] <mhall119> but getting track leads around to cover extra time is going to be dififcult
[17:34] <elfy> mhall119: ack that
[17:34] <cprofitt> elfy: exactly, but there is a great deal of difference between Berlin time and San Fran time.
[17:34] <cprofitt> mhall119: is there a way to have a EU and a US track lead -- assuming we find the volunteers
[17:34] <mhall119> we can always say "These are the core hours, track leads are around to help then, or you can use these other hours, but you're on your own to make it happen"
[17:35] <elfy> mhall119: possibly useful
[17:35] <mhall119> cprofitt: I think we had a decent mix the last few times, it's asia we didn't cover
[17:35] <cprofitt> mhall119: I agree
[17:35] <cprofitt> Do we think opening the hours and having TZ leads would help get people from Asia?
[17:36] <mhall119> czajkowski: pleia2: are you around to comment on this
[17:36] <mhall119> ?
[17:36] <mhall119> cprofitt: maybe?
[17:37] <czajkowski> sorry reading back
[17:37] <czajkowski> had t jump elsewhere
[17:37] <cprofitt> mhall119: yeah, that is what I was guessing... it is hard to know which came first... chicken or the egg
[17:37] <dholbach> maybe we could ask folks in Asia/Oceania to come up a proposal of their own? like: propose sessions/session leaders and times and then we take it from there?
[17:38] <czajkowski> I stil say schedule a longer day or take some time off in the middle of the day and add a weekend date
[17:38] <cprofitt> dholbach: that should work.
[17:38] <dholbach> it'll be hard to change the format and it'll be quite some work
[17:38] <cprofitt> I like that idea too czajkowski
[17:38] <czajkowski> its hard to volunteer mid week and work to sit at a screen. One day at weekend would help
[17:38] <dholbach> and if we don't know that it's actually desired or necessary, then it might be better to focus on other stuff
[17:38] <elfy> czajkowski: I'm certainly more likely to be available weekend
[17:38] <cprofitt> with this being virtual there is less need to schdule it the way a physical UDS was.
[17:38] <mhall119> IIRC, we had an hour block in the middle of last UDS for a break
[17:38] <cprofitt> weekends would be excellent as well.
[17:39] <elfy> mhall119: yea that seemed odd to me
[17:39] <cprofitt> more people would not have work conflicts.
[17:39] <dholbach> maybe we could have a hangout to start the UOS planning and gather some more feedback? :)
[17:39] <mhall119> we can use next week's planned hangout
[17:39] <mhall119> if everybody can make it
[17:40] <elfy> I should actually be able to next week
[17:40]  * czajkowski proposes a 2 hours gap in the day at least
[17:40] <dholbach> cool
[17:40] <czajkowski> and adding  a day at the weekend
[17:41] <mhall119> czajkowski: can you add your ideas to http://pad.ubuntu.com/PkXURXDKrM ?
[17:41]  * dholbach marks it as the uos hangout :)
[17:41] <czajkowski> ack
[17:41] <dholbach> thanks a lot :)
[17:42] <dholbach> anything else?
[17:42]  * mhall119 has nothing else
[17:42]  * elfy neither
[17:42]  * mhall119 is thrilled that we're starting UOS talks and planning more than just a couple of weeks before it starts
[17:43] <cprofitt> nothing else from me either.
[17:43] <cprofitt> +1 mhall119
[17:43] <dholbach> yes :)
[17:43] <dholbach> ok... that's a wrap then!
[17:43] <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone!
[17:43] <dholbach> #stopmeeting
[17:43] <cprofitt> we need to inovlve team leads as soon as possible as well.
[17:43] <dholbach> yep
[17:43] <elfy> dholbach: try
[17:43] <pleia2> endmeeting ;)
[17:43] <elfy> #endmeeting
[17:43] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar  5 17:43:34 2015 UTC.
[17:43] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-03-05-17.02.moin.txt
[17:43] <dholbach> aha!
[17:43] <dholbach> :)
[17:43] <elfy> pleia2: :D
[17:43] <dholbach> that makes sense


[02:49] <ShootEmUp> Hello Everyone
[05:52] <robertzaccour> is xubuntu 64 bit faster than ubuntu 64 bit?
[06:47]  * UBUxUBU enters via the long and winding road, that ultimately leads to the affluent cloud enablement of.....Xubuntu!
[08:44] <PiCaSo1> hoola
[08:44] <PiCaSo1> can some one help me
[08:44] <bazhang> !panels
[08:44] <PiCaSo1> all the top bar are gone
[08:44] <bazhang> !reset-panels
[08:44] <PiCaSo1> i type this commande in console ??
[08:44] <bazhang> nope.
[08:44] <PiCaSo1> how
[08:44] <bazhang> I forget which bot command gives the appropriate command
[08:44] <Sysi> ubottu: panels
[08:44] <Sysi> ubottu: ping
[08:44] <bazhang> no wonder
[08:44] <PiCaSo1> i cant find it :/ any one can help
[08:44] <PiCaSo1> plz
[08:44] <leoquant> !wow
[08:44] <Sysi> alt+f2 and type xfce4-terminal
[08:48] <bazhang> !panels
[08:48] <bazhang> PiCaSo1, ^^
[08:50] <PiCaSo1> yes
[08:50] <PiCaSo1> i m here
[08:50] <PiCaSo1> ^^
[08:52] <PiCaSo1> thanks ^^
[08:52] <PiCaSo1> you are the best
[08:52] <PiCaSo1> :)
[08:56] <PiCaSo1> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/
[08:58] <PiCaSo1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels
[08:59] <Sysi> image as panel background will be option in new xfce version in natty
[09:00] <PiCaSo1> thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks gays i fix it
[09:00] <PiCaSo1> ^^
[10:41] <Ileden> Is there a way to change xfce4-terminal's default window size?
[10:43] <Sysi> alt F2 'mousepad ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc'
[10:43] <Sysi> iirc
[10:44] <Ileden> Sysi: Thanks! Yup, it's there, MiscDefaultGeometry
[11:15] <btg> hi there
[11:16] <btg> is there any xubuntu-dev (4.7.x) version for Maverick ??
[11:18] <gr8m8> you mean a 4.7 version of xfce btg ?
[11:18] <btg> yep
[11:19] <gr8m8> afaik there's not but you can get developement versions from the xfce4 website
[11:20] <gr8m8> or ask in #xfce
[11:20] <Sysi> i haven't heard there that there would be
[11:20] <btg> i have ubuntu 10.10 installed but i need new thunar with network in xfce
[11:20] <btg> there is
[11:20] <btg> only for lucid
[11:20] <btg> LTS
[11:21] <Sysi> how about gigolo?
[11:21] <Sysi> btw where are those lucid packages?
[11:22] <Sysi> though 4.8pre..3? is already out
[11:24] <btg> lucid ppa is here https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa
[15:00] <lokvendra_> canal xubuntu en español ???
[15:01] <charlie-tca> !ap
[15:01] <charlie-tca> !sp
[15:01] <charlie-tca> !es
[15:01] <Geek--> hello i need help to get my bcm4311 wifi to work i tried pretty much everything and its still not working
[17:51] <Hc96> Hi! how can I set my locale temporarily to de_DE.iso-8859-15? my gtk+ warns me my c-library does not support it (via LC_ALL=de_DE....)
[17:52] <TheSheep> well, you need to add it to the compiled locales
[17:52] <Hc96> how do I do that?
[17:52] <TheSheep> I'm trying to remember
[17:54] <TheSheep> /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local
[17:54] <TheSheep> edit that and run locale-gen
[17:55] <TheSheep> no, sorry
[17:55] <TheSheep> just run locale-gen with the locale as a parameter
[17:56] <Hc96> as root?
[17:56] <TheSheep> yeah
[17:56] <Hc96> like locale-gen de_DE.iso-8859-15 ?
[17:56] <Hc96> can I uninstall that afterwards?
[17:56] <TheSheep> man locale-gen should give you more info
[17:57] <TheSheep> there is a --purge option
[18:06] <Hc96> locale-gen de_DE.iso-8859-15 doesn't do anything. It just exits, no error messages or sth
[18:13] <Hc96> ah got it. It was just locale-gen de_DE
[20:56] <xubuntu461> hellp
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[21:55] <Aderlass> Hello
[21:56] <charlie-tca> !hi
[21:57] <Aderlass> Has anyone a suggestion for a lightweight filemanager with a GUI?
[21:57] <charlie-tca> thunar ?
[21:57] <Aderlass> Couldn't find one in xfce
[21:58] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu comes with Thunar, which is the default xfce file manager
[21:58] <Aderlass> Lice mc, only with a GUI :) Or another total commander clone?
[21:58] <Aderlass> *like
[21:58] <Aderlass> Thunar? Hmmm, okay. Moment. :)
[21:59] <Aderlass> Ah well, that's the standard manager
[21:59] <Aderlass> I'd like to have something with Tabs and split window
[22:03] <Aderlass> Okay, i think gnome commander is worth a try.
[22:04] <Aderlass> Now the more dificult question: How can i access folders shared by my win7 workstation?
[22:04] <charlie-tca> !samba
[22:04] <Aderlass> Thanks. :)
[22:05] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[22:23] <Aderlass> Hm, that's very slow
[22:23] <Aderlass> Can't stream a video
[23:17] <newubuntu> hi guys
[23:18] <newubuntu> i just need a small piece of advice
[23:18] <newubuntu> would you suggest the desktop version or the netbook version for to be installed on a laptop
[23:19] <newubuntu> and what would i be missing out on if choose to install the desktop version on a laptop ?
[23:21] <charlie-tca> Since Xubuntu only has a desktop edition, nothing missed by installing it
[23:55] <Aderlass> Hello
[23:56] <Aderlass> How can i activate SpeedStep for my Atom CPU?


[11:03] <bluca> #2056461 this one is a bit of a pain, as it of course started to appear at the same time as one of the qemu-only tests started to fail, only in noble -.-
[11:03] <bluca> are there any known workarounds aside from downgrading kernel?
[11:04] <bluca> looks like there's no bot around here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopkgtest/+bug/2056461
[11:25] <Skia> not yet, sadly
[11:26] <Skia> only thing I can say is that I have this on my radar, and plan on investigating that shortly
[11:29] <andersson1234> bluca: another obvious workaround which you're probably aware of is using lxd instead of qemu, which I've been doing since this issue has arisen
[11:29] <andersson1234> ah, wait, I see you said qemu-only, nevermind :D
[11:32] <bluca> yeah need to run on the noble kernel for this
[12:20] <bluca> are there proxy issues from the autopkgtest datacenter to salsa or something? been getting this for the past 2 hours, despite retries:
[12:20] <bluca> fatal: unable to access 'https://salsa.debian.org/bluca/systemd.git/': Received HTTP code 503 from proxy after CONNECT
[12:20] <bluca> can clone/fetch fine from here
[12:21] <bluca> doesn't seem to be the usual intermittent hiccups, happens on all the jobs
[12:22] <andersson1234> This issue is familiar to me - I'll look into it shortly :)
[12:22] <bluca> thanks!
[12:48] <andersson1234> bluca: do you have an autopkgtest logfile you can point me to please?
[12:48] <andersson1234> this seems datacentre dependent
[12:48] <andersson1234> or *feels*
[12:50] <bluca> andersson1234<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:00] <andersson1234> ah, a pesky issue has reared its head once again
[13:01] <andersson1234> working on a fix now
[13:06] <andersson1234> bluca: I'd expect within the hour for the salsa.debian.org issue to be fixed.
[13:06] <andersson1234> Please ping me if this isn't the case!
[13:08] <bluca> thank you, will let you know
[16:54] <andersson1234> bluca: FYI I have a fix I'm testing for the issue you saw yesterday (jobs being lost with a restart of the workers)
[16:55] <bluca> thanks
[16:56] <bluca> still seeing the salsa problem as of one hour ago
[16:57] <bluca> triggered again just now to see if it persists
[16:58] <andersson1234> ah that's annoying, sorry, I'll look into that again now
[17:12] <bluca> actually looks like it recovered in the past half hour or so
[17:12] <bluca> I see jobs moving past the cloning and onto the compilation step
[17:12] <bluca> so the fix seems to have worked, thanks