[15:26] <Whiskey> well the third time https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:26] <GG111> DigitalDK: did you ever have a dual boot on that system ?
[15:26] <NurseDad> DigitalDK: i am on a new duel boot of win 7 and 12.04
[15:26] <bazhang> Whiskey, the servers are still syncing.
[15:26] <bazhang> Whiskey, and 12.10 is not out for 6 months
[15:27] <DigitalDK> GG111 a long time ago but I had to do a fresh install of windows because the updates corrupted my system.
[15:27] <Whiskey> Yeh i did notice
[15:27] <DigitalDK> GG111 so I formatted everything and started new.
[15:27] <Whiskey> My bad
[15:27] <Whiskey> but we try again, the 12.04 is not on that page anyways
[15:27] <bazhang> Whiskey, so be patient while they sync
[15:27] <Whiskey> But i guss http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ is that one i search for
[15:27] <DigitalDK> NurseDad yeah I figured a lot of people are doing it, but this is the second time it's hung like this on me.
[15:27] <GG111> DigitalDK: mm.. so the answer is no, well, that's a very nasty stage to be stuck at, so, Ubuntu copies the files OK, but never starts installing, correct ?
[15:28] <bazhang> Whiskey, thats quantal. 12.10
[15:28] <Whiskey> kk what was 12.04 called?
[15:28] <DigitalDK> GG111 that's correct. I click continue before it finishes copying and just gets stuck with the busy icon for the mouse even though the copying continues.
[15:28]  * Slyfer slaps Whiskey around a bit with a large trout
[15:28] <koo> can someone help me?  upgrading to 12.04 i get an "error: no such partition" for all OSes
[15:28] <bazhang> Whiskey, precise pangolin
[15:28] <DigitalDK> GG111 after it copies though it just sits and sits and sits.
[15:28]  * Slyfer slaps Whiskey around a bit with a large trout
[15:28] <koo> is it grub or something?
[15:29] <bazhang> Slyfer, stop that
[15:29] <sary> assurbanipal: you need to install the gnome-shell-extensions , since you have gnome-shell 3.4.1 .. the last version of gnome-shell-extensions is 3.4.0 .
[15:29] <GG111> DigitalDK: nasty stuff, mm.. anything in your Bios that can prevent dual boot ?
[15:29] <Whiskey> DJ: Im affraid i own you an excuse
[15:29] <jatt> I'm running 11.10 how do I upgrade to 12.04 LTS?
[15:29] <assurbanipal> sary, yes but is not available in my repos!
[15:29] <Sidewinder> Whiskey, Perhaps this is what you're looking for? http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:29] <jatt> with update-manager?
[15:29] <DigitalDK> GG111 not that I can think of, I was doing it just fine like 6 months ago. Everything is the same as it was then.
[15:29] <Rhaedas> yes jatt
[15:29] <GirlyGirl> jatt: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:30] <sary> assurbanipal: ive just made a system update , and the shell-extensions broked!
[15:30] <naerok|out> hi, anyone have access to a torrent to 12.04 64bit?
[15:30] <naerok|out> 10 hour eta on download :(
[15:30] <bazhang> GirlyGirl, thats not correct
[15:30] <sary> assurbanipal: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions
[15:30] <assurbanipal> sary, whf?what dioes that mean?
[15:30] <Whiskey> so this one "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/"
[15:30] <bazhang> GirlyGirl, it's been released, and the -d switch is for development not released
[15:31] <ardian> Hi I need to know where this is \admin_tools\theming\static\admin_tools\images\django.png how do I search ?
[15:31] <GirlyGirl> bazhang: Ah yes forgot about that
[15:31] <GG111> DigitalDK: OK, can't nail this one directly, here's what I would have gone for, had it been my problem : 1. Is the Media OK ? 2. Bios settings 3. Is the Hard drive write proteced in any way
[15:31] <assurbanipal> sary, what am i supposed to do there mate? :P
[15:31] <assurbanipal> sary, commit some code myself/? :D
[15:32] <sary> assurbanipal: i think it might means tha both the shell and the shell-extensions version must match !
[15:32] <GG111> DigitalDK: also, is you HD partitoned, or you're going for Dual boot on the same partitions witn W7 ?
[15:32] <crypted> anyone: thoughts on why 3 computers saw the LTS upgrade and are upgrading, yet 1 says no updates are available?  all have the same settings.
[15:32] <Sidewinder> Whiskey, That would be for 64 bit. Is that what you need?
[15:32] <Whiskey> yep
[15:32] <bazhang> crypted, from which version
[15:32] <assurbanipal> sary, so...? what am i supposed to do?this still doesn;t answer why i don;t have that package available, i think
[15:33] <jatt> GirlyGirl: so do-release-upgrade -d will upgrade to a development version?
[15:33] <crypted> okay this is strange.
[15:33] <crypted> bazhang: it shows it now if i remove only show LTS
[15:33] <bazhang> jatt, dont use the -d switch
[15:33] <crypted> it shows 12.04 LTS after i say any version instaed of just LTS
[15:33] <jatt> too late lol
[15:33] <crypted> makes no sense to me
[15:33] <DigitalDK> GG111 well the disc I just finished downloading the ISO from torrent linked from the ubuntu site. I haven't changed anything in the BIOS since I last dual booted besides some clock frequencies.  Maybe I should try writing the file to a disc at a slower speed?
[15:33] <koo> anyone - please, after my update to 12.04 i got an "error: no such partition" while booting
[15:33] <jatt> the fetching looks correct though:
[15:33] <jatt> Get:83 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main vim-common i386 2:7.3.429-2ubuntu2 [86.3 kB]
[15:33] <LearningXP> Man, I picked the wrong time to get into Ubuntu, haha
[15:33] <jatt> precise pangolin, no?
[15:34] <DigitalDK> No.
[15:34] <GirlyGirl> jatt: For now -d is ok as 12.10 repos do not exist yet but best not to use it in future
[15:34] <jatt> ok thanks
[15:34] <ghabit> Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[15:34] <Rhaedas> your update manager should show it available too if your settings allow it
[15:34] <bazhang> jatt, yes 12.04
[15:35] <sary> assurbanipal: i wounder myself , hold up ..
[15:35] <Fyodorovna> ghabit, this is ubuntu support.
[15:35] <Whiskey> Are it someone that is relly smart in here
[15:35] <GG111> DigitalDK: maybe, I guess anything goes at this stage, I have my share of bad luck in the past with installs, and I learned that it reaaly depends on *excactly* where the install gets stuck to know - what's causing it.
[15:35] <bazhang> Whiskey, pardon?
[15:36] <Whiskey> All Linux Distos no matter what it is i think come else as x86
[15:36] <Whiskey> Or AMDx64
[15:36] <Whiskey> And why in the hell is it named AMD? i mean Intel also has x64 i relly don´t get that :D
[15:36] <DigitalDK> GG111 and getting stuck after making the partition and copying files isn't one you're used too? :P
[15:36] <bazhang> Whiskey, thats offtopic for here
[15:36] <GG111> DigitalDK: also, I'm not sure if ubuntu keeps an install log anywhere, that would have been a dead giveaway to your problem.
[15:36] <bazhang> Whiskey, that info is easily searchable on the internet
[15:36] <assurbanipal> Whiskey, i think u just need to do some homework before coming and calling people names in public
[15:37] <DJ> GG111, look in /var/log
[15:37] <GG111> DigitalDK: well, yes, happend, it was bad Media.
[15:37] <Whiskey> Give it a break :=) it can´t be we still talk about Ubuntu dirsto or can do atlest
[15:37] <bazhang> !ot | Whiskey
[15:37] <Whiskey> kk
[15:37] <Ethek> Question, I upgraded from 12.04 Beta and my Privacy Manager feature seems to be missing from System Settings
[15:37] <GG111> DJ: will there be a /var/log for an install that did not finish ?
[15:37] <woozly> after upgrading and rebooting... I can't see any panels
[15:37] <woozly> only desktop with icons
[15:37] <woozly> no unity, no top panel
[15:37] <DJ> no
[15:37] <woozly> nothing
[15:37] <woozly> :/
[15:37] <FloodBot1> woozly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <idhenk> my bluetooth dongle cannot find any devices
[15:39] <DigitalDK> GG111 I'll just try writing the disc at a slower rate I guess. It's still stuck on that screen so I'll reset, reformat, and try to reinstall.
[15:39] <ardian> how can I search for this  \admin_tools\theming\static\admin_tools\images\django.png how do I search ?
[15:39] <wiherek> when I compile a program from source, do I need to move it somewhere afterwards (the folder I mean)
[15:39] <ghabit> Fyodorovna, yeah, I am just installed ubuntu and looking for software for ubuntu.
[15:39] <blob4000> hey, congrats everyone on 12.04. quick question, if i have 12.04 beta2 installed, should i just run updates to get the final 12.04, or should i reinstall completely from the 12.04 disc?
[15:39] <bazhang> blob4000, yes
[15:39] <GG111> DigitalDK: sucks that you use Windows, if you have a machine that you can try and use this media on, you could see if the media is bad.
[15:40] <bazhang> !final | blob4000
[15:40] <Fyodorovna> ghabit, cool.
[15:40] <vespakoen> Hey guys! =) I thought, lets install the nvidia drivers for my macbook, but that fucked things up =), does anyone know how to go back to "default" ?
[15:40] <vespakoen> or autoconfigure it the ubuntu way?
[15:40] <GG111> DigitalDK: also, if you're going the "bad media" router, did you verify the MD5 on this download ?
[15:40] <bazhang> vespakoen, no cursing here
[15:40] <Ethek> nm, I found it in software center. I thought Privacy Manager was a default App
[15:40] <ghabit> Fyodorovna, lu4she bi podskazal.
[15:40] <GG111> DigitalDK: route=router
[15:41] <vespakoen> hehe =D
[15:41] <noobie_> hello
[15:41] <noobie_> I need help with ubuntu
[15:41] <DigitalDK> GG111 I didn't verify unfortunately but I figured getting a torrent right from the ubuntu DL page I wouldn't need too >.<
[15:41] <wiherek> I am getting an error for a Varnish repo NOT FOUND on Ubuntu 11.10 but I cant find it in my sources.list
[15:41] <noobie_> I just installed ubuntu
[15:41] <wiherek> how can i remove it?
[15:41] <noobie_> how can i access my windows files?
[15:41] <GG111> DigitalDK: Ubuntu.com is back up, you can grab a coppy from there.
[15:42] <noobie_> abny help
[15:42] <noobie_> plz
[15:42] <noobie_> i need help
[15:42] <DigitalDK> GG111 thanks for all the help, I hopefully won't be back.
[15:42] <GG111> DigitalDK: at least you'll know it the system, for sure, if a brand new download and CD burs gives you the same error.
[15:42] <noobie_> ow to access windows files
[15:42] <bazhang> !helpme | noobie_
[15:42] <SteveBell> great work with 12.04. flawless update so far :)
[15:42] <bazhang> patience noobie_
[15:43] <Rhaedas> did you install Ubuntu in a separate partition?
[15:43] <GG111> man, wha'ts up with my typos.
[15:43] <blob4000> thanks bazhang
[15:43] <ghabit> Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[15:43] <noobie_> !helpme plz, I really need to access my windows files
[15:43] <noobie_> OO
[15:43] <GG111> well, I know what's up, I'm in Starbucks, and 5 people talking sound line 5000, why shout ?
[15:44] <noobie_> so
[15:44] <Rhaedas> noobie: did you install Ubuntu in a separate partition or drive?
[15:44] <bazhang> noobie_, stop repeating every five seconds
[15:44] <noobie_> a partition?
[15:44] <noobie_> what's one of them
[15:44] <noobie_> I told it to overwrite windows
[15:44] <Rhaedas> um
[15:44] <noobie_> I assume it keep files right?
[15:45] <GG111> noobie_: no
[15:45] <noobie_> wat
[15:45] <noobie_> what kind of stupidd installer is it then
[15:45] <noobie_> if it can't even keep files
[15:45] <GG111> noobie_: if you told the installed to run over the previous OS, the files are gone.
[15:45] <noobie_> yes
[15:45] <noobie_> OS
[15:45] <Rhaedas> it did ask you if you wanted to overwrite WIndows
[15:45] <noobie_> not user data
[15:45] <GG111> noobie_: if user date is on the same partition , then it's gone.
[15:45] <noobie_> what
[15:45] <GG111> if you had a C: and D: drive, C: is gone, D: is there.
[15:46] <noobie_> noooooo
[15:46] <bliffle_> noobie: usually you can find Win files through "Nautilus", which starts when you select 'places' from the top bar or the icon of the filefolder when you popout icons along the left margin.
[15:46] <noobie_> GG111: is there any way I can recover files?
[15:46] <noobie_> some sort of undelete tool for linux?
[15:46] <babai> noobie_: this is not a windows upgrade, ubuntu deletes all data in the c drive(or whatever drive it was installed in)
[15:46] <GG111> noobie_: how important were they ?
[15:46] <noobie_> eh
[15:47] <noobie_> some of them were important
[15:47] <a_b0y> noobie_ maybe your windows files are encrypted?
[15:47] <noobie_> I think I ahve backups
[15:47] <atsi> καλησπερα θελω να κανω μια ερωτηση καθως και νεος στο linux και στο ubuntu... Εχω αναβαθμισει την διανομη 12.04 απο 11.10 και θα ηθελα να ρωτησω αν χρειαζεται να κανω καθαρη εγκατασταση την final εκδοση η αν θα ενημερωθει αυτοματα η beta εκδοση 12.04 μεσω ενημερωσε
[15:47] <atsi> ων και πως θα το καταλαβω αυτο
[15:47] <bazhang> !gr | atsi
[15:47] <JuJuBee> I use rhythmbox on kubuntu for music. Anyone know why the repeat and shuffle icons are missing? tried finding info online but nothing I found seemed to work.
[15:47] <MrKeuner> hello, having trouble mounting the ecryptfs encrypted home directory on an external hard drive (formerly internal). Problem is the /media/s7ds6g87fdf8g6d8fg/.ecryptfs directory is linked to /home/.ecryptfs which does not exist! Can someone help please?
[15:47] <GG111> noobie_: every one who ever dealt with linux ended up nuking all their files, at least once.
[15:47] <Baribal> Hi. I'm missing locale information, it seems. I tried dpkg-reconfigure locales, but that only rebuilt existing locale info and didn't allow me to add new ones. What do I have to do?
[15:47] <bliffle_> noobie: you TOLD the installer to replace windows, so it did.
[15:48] <a_b0y> noobie_ maybe try to take the hard drive and install it on a computer with windows to see if it recognizes it
[15:48] <noobie_> I backup my important stuff on google dodcs
[15:48] <GirlyGirl> GG111: I'm sure not everyone did that
[15:48] <noobie_> so my most important tuff is there]
[15:48] <GG111> noobie_: so , no worries, you are actually in a better place, you got rid of Windows .
[15:48] <noobie_> actually
[15:48] <noobie_> worse
[15:48] <noobie_> ALL MAH GAMES
[15:49] <FloodBot1> noobie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:49] <noobie_> I GOTTA DOWNLOAD THEM AGAIN
[15:49] <GG111> GirlyGirl: I did, so does everybody I know. computer sciecse grads included.
[15:49] <noobie_> ALL 100GB OF THEM
[15:49] <a_b0y> noobie_ if you are a noob, maybe your files are still on the computer you just don't know where to find it because linux doesn't have drives like C: B: D:... etc
[15:49] <GG111> when I installed my first asterisk server, I nuked a 250 GB drive, full with good stuff.
[15:50] <GG111> and this was a time that 250GB was a *lot* of data.
[15:50] <a_b0y> noobie_ did you mount the drive?
[15:50] <MrKeuner> I have precice pangolin beta installed a week ago, I don't need to do anything, correct? I am LTS now?
[15:50] <GirlyGirl> GG111: Luckily since I've used the really old versions of Windows like 3.1 where everything was manual, I never did that. I did put the bootloader on wrong drives though
[15:50] <blob4000> ubuntu's ftp / apt-get servers seem slow :) or is it just me?
[15:51] <GG111> GirlyGirl: cool for you then.
[15:51] <GirlyGirl> MrKeuner: with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , yes
[15:51] <jatt> 889 kB/s here
[15:51] <bazhang> blob4000, its the first day of release, thats normal
[15:51] <MrKeuner> GirlyGirl, thanks
[15:51] <GG111> blob4000: the whole world is getting 12.04 now, yes, slow.
[15:51] <bazhang> blob4000, torrents are a better option at this point in time
[15:51] <blob4000> thanks.
[15:52] <blob4000> is it just me, or is Linux really taking off this year?
[15:52] <Baribal> GG111, the reverse is true for me, I'm still lugging around files from my pre-Linux days.
[15:52] <jatt> linux took off years ago
[15:52] <bazhang> blob4000, thats a good topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:52] <blob4000> kk
[15:53] <blob4000> just excited for ubuntu, considering the lackluster release Windows 8 might be
[15:53] <Sidewinder> blob4000, For a faster d/l using a bit-torrent, please see here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:53] <GG111> Baribal: files are crap, I try and be the leaset dependent on files. there's only one computer I own that has important files, and backed to so many place that I can't tell them without reading the script. all the other computer, can be nuked on the dime. no tears.
[15:53] <martin_tsc> My wifi dies after upgrading from 11.04 ->11.10.  How can that be fixed?
[15:53] <blob4000> Sidewinder: thanks
[15:53] <Sidewinder> blob4000, My pleasure. :-)
[15:54] <Baribal> GG111, good to know, but I don't think that has to do with me never nuking all my files because of Linux. :)
[15:54] <Andy80> hi, I've this xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/N8SacSFW but on each boot I always get 1024x768 by default. I need to go to System Settings->Display and choose 1680x1050 from the available one and then click Apply. Then it works. Maybe there is something wrong in my xorg.conf, how can I fix it? Thanks! p.s: I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and Nouveau driver.
[15:54] <GG111> martin_tsc: run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade , reboot , see if Wifi is back
[15:54] <Roj> i finde  precise-dvd-i386.iso        23-Apr-2012 15:00  1.5G  Install/live DVD for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download) in  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ .it is 12.4 dvd version?
[15:54] <Roj> but it is for 23 april
[15:54] <k4f1r> guys having a problem upgrading from beta2 to release.....i tried dist-upgrade , upgrade, update, nada says I'm updated
[15:54] <david_r> Andy80, post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to another pastebin, it probably shows what your problem is
[15:54] <GG111> Baribal: I didnot loose importnat files my self, I nuked them yes, but what was needed, I still have.
[15:55] <martin_tsc> GG111, thanks i'll try that
[15:55] <bazhang> k4f1r, what does lsb_release -a   say in the terminal
[15:56] <roasted> Question - Does Ubuntu One delete files at all? Reason I ask is, let's say I have Ubuntu One set up on my Android to sync my pictures to Ub1.  Or does it not delete anything?
[15:56] <n0yd> hey guys, kind of my first go around with a ATI card (deffinitely not new to linux, been using for 10 years or so).  I got a T60 with a x1300 mobility.  According to thinkwiki, radeon and radeonhd support this card, and even do 3d with newer mesa versions (i believe this was written a few years ago).  It also says the blob fglrx supports it, and from what I have read this will give the best performance, but I tried installing catalyst drivers, and it says
[15:56] <n0yd>  I dont have a supported device.  Any ideas?
[15:56] <bazhang> Roj, perhaps wait for the servers to by synced.
[15:56] <Andy80> david_r: here you have my /var/log/Xorg.0.log --> http://pastebin.com/YxBxaA4t
[15:56] <bazhang> roasted, try #ubuntuone
[15:56] <k4f1r> No LSB modules are available.
[15:56] <k4f1r> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[15:56] <k4f1r> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:56] <k4f1r> Release:	12.04
[15:56] <k4f1r> Codename:	precise
[15:56] <FloodBot1> k4f1r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <bazhang> k4f1r, then you are at final
[15:56] <mouth1> hi
[15:57] <roasted> bazhang: didn't know it existed. thanks!
[15:57] <k4f1r> how do I get the latest kernel then?
[15:57] <mouth1> i have a core i3 cpu, should i download the 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu 12.04?
[15:57] <wad> I'm trying to troubleshoot a VPN issue. Which logs should I tail so I can see why it keeps dropping?
[15:57] <bazhang> k4f1r, latest being what
[15:57] <GG111> k4f1r: ouch, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:57] <mac_> Hey, questions
[15:57] <jatt> 64bit
[15:57] <GG111> and paste the link back here
[15:57] <bazhang> mouth1, is that 32 or 64 bit
[15:57] <mouth1> core i3 is 64 bit
[15:58] <bazhang> mouth1, then use 64
[15:58] <jatt> newer cpus are all 64bit
[15:58] <mouth1> will apps be supported on 64 bit?
[15:58] <mac_> How do I find themes for Ubuntu 12.04. how do i set up my wireless printer, and why is my bluetooth so wishy washy?
[15:58] <k4f1r> latest being 3.2.1-24 or 3.2.0-24 instead of 23
[15:58] <mac_> thanks
[15:58] <bazhang> mouth1, yes
[15:58] <mouth1> ok thanks
[15:58] <ghabit> Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[15:58] <Baribal> Gentlemen... How do I add/install locales?
[15:58] <colon_D> is there some lag time before do-release-upgrade is available from 10.04 to 12?
[15:58] <bazhang> mac_, check printer at linuxprinting.org  and give more info than "wishy-washy"
[15:59] <mac_> Well, I have a sound bar, it rarely connects. only off a freshboot like starting up
[15:59] <bazhang> colon_D, is your package manager checked to look only for lts?
[15:59] <mac_> it never can reconnect after being with one device or after going to sleep. It's really weird and Thanks
[16:00] <bazhang> k4f1r, here, not via PM please
[16:00] <colon_D> bazhang: yeah, prompt=normal does the regular maverick upgrade, but prompt-lts gives me no new release found.  this is for a server.
[16:00] <bazhang> colon_D, which servers are you pointed at in sources.list
[16:01] <yacc> Any hints how to decrypt a home filesystem via ecryptfs manually (I do know the passphrase, I'm just trying to restore some files from a backup)
[16:01] <Andy80> david_r: you got any idea from my log file?
[16:01] <david_r> Andy80, your xorg.conf lacks a "screen" section, in the logfile it says No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".  Using a default monitor configuration.
[16:01] <beandog> yacc: cryptsetup luksOpen something someting
[16:01] <Fat-Thing> where can i post a screenshot? like a text field in ubuntu.paste.com something right?
[16:02] <colon_D> bazhang: the typical us.archive.ubuntu.com: http://paste.ubuntu.com/947558/
[16:02] <bazhang> !paste | Fat-Thing
[16:02] <Andy80> david_r: oh... where can I find a xorg.conf example so I can adapt it to my needs?
[16:02] <david_r> let me paste mine
[16:02] <bazhang> colon_D, thats odd. they should be synced by now. perhaps wait a bit, or switch servers and try again
[16:02] <yacc> beandog, encrypted home filesystem => that's not block-level encryption.
[16:02] <Andy80> david_r: thanks :)
[16:03] <n0yd> hmm, no one hear can offer me any help? it seems whenever i come here my questions are ignored, as if they are too advanced or something
[16:04] <bazhang> n0yd, whats the issue
[16:04] <sacarlson> Andy80: If I recall there is a command that will create the xorg.conf file that you system uses as it's default if none is found and you can edit that
[16:04] <n0yd> bazhang, its above but i will posty
[16:04] <n0yd> hey guys, kind of my first go around with a ATI card (deffinitely not new to linux, been using for 10 years or so).  I got a T60 with a x1300 mobility.  According to thinkwiki, radeon and radeonhd support this card, and even do 3d with newer mesa versions (i believe this was written a few years ago).  It also says the blob fglrx supports it, and from what I have read this will give the best performance, but I tried installing catalyst drivers, and it says
[16:04] <n0yd>  I dont have a supported device.  Any ideas?
[16:05] <bazhang> n0yd, tried installing from where
[16:05] <Matan[M]> hi, where i can find list of changes in Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:05] <david_r> okay here's mine: http://pastebin.com/ZuHzwmBn - I'm using two monitors and the nvidia driver, if you're using one monitor you should adjust that, also you're using the open source driver so change that under "device" or install the nvidia binaries.  If you install the nvidia driver you can use the nvidia-settings tool to generate this file.
[16:05] <Fat-Thing> thanx ubottu
[16:06] <bazhang> Matan[M], check the topic here
[16:06] <Andy80> david_r: I wish I could use the Nvidia driver, but it crashes my Xorg so many times! I get something like 7-8 crashes per day and I really cannot stand it.
[16:06] <Matan[M]> bazhang: sorry
[16:06] <beandog> Andy80: sounds like crappy hardware.
[16:06] <colon_D> bazhang: thanks, I'll wait I suppose.  I tried mirrors.mit.edu with the same result.
[16:07] <calculon> who's here?
[16:07] <Andy80> david_r: mmm.... no I can't use it, it's pretty the same I was using when I used Nvidia driver, but too many things change
[16:07] <bazhang> calculon, ubuntu support
[16:07] <david_r> Sorry to hear that. Another alternative to the xorg.conf changes is to figure out how to change the resolution with xrandr and then put the command in your ~/.xprofile file.
[16:07] <calculon> I like xubuntu 12.04
[16:08] <Fat-Thing> http://imagebin.org/209846
[16:08] <mouth1> what is the checksum for ubuntu 12.04 desktop amd64 ?
[16:08] <sacarlson> Andy80: maybe this command? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/dexconf.1.html
[16:08] <Jordan_U> !md5sums | mouth1
[16:09] <mouth1> Jordan_U, there is no 12.04
[16:09] <bazhang> !hashes | mouth1
[16:09] <mouth1> thanks
[16:09] <egelor_> david_r: you have right xrandr is the alternate. but as i had problems with nvidia drivers the best place is the ubuntu forum. And if you want to run your nvidia write you need to read a lot
[16:10] <Monotoko> hey guys... if I have the beta of 12.04... am I right in thinking I just need to run "apt-get upgrade" to get the final?
[16:10] <bazhang> !final | Monotoko
[16:11] <Monotoko> thank you :)
[16:11] <nitzs> hello everyone. how did you find the new release?
[16:11] <DarkAceZ> Are things broken in 12 or what?
[16:11] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, no
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> nitzs  works fine here, 'classic' gui
[16:11] <DarkAceZ> Cool.
[16:12] <nannes> Hi! Which is the right place to suggest new useful features to Ubu.developers ?
[16:12] <bazhang> !brainstorm | nannes
[16:12] <DarkAceZ> You being serious?
[16:13] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, ubuntu support question?
[16:13] <Andy80> david_r: do you think that this new xorg.conf will fix my problem http://pastebin.com/nC9dGmqf ?
[16:13] <DarkAceZ> Isn't it?
[16:13] <nannes> bazhang: what if my english is not very well? I try there, or there is an italian channel?
[16:13] <bobweaver> what is the correct icon dir for makefiles ? example http://paste.ubuntu.com/947578/ thanks
[16:13] <p0wer> twork.org
[16:13] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, whats the issue: ask all on one line
[16:13] <david_r> It shouldn't hurt, try it and if it doesn't change anything post your new Xorg.0.log file.
[16:13] <bazhang> !it | nannes
[16:14] <awisepilot> When I do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says: No New Release Found.
[16:14] <DarkAceZ> I'm just wondering if things are broken.
[16:14] <nannes> lol..ok I go to that english page
[16:14] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, thats not a support question
[16:14] <bazhang> DarkAceZ, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:14] <Fat-Thing> http://imagebin.org/209846 <---- anyone? seems i got a very very low connection :(
[16:15] <ssfdre38> hey would Intel Dual Core (not 2) still be able to use the 64 bit of 12.04
[16:15] <DeadMeat67> on both of my 11.10 on desktop one server I am getting no new release found when I do a sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:16] <awisepilot> When I do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says: No New Release Found.  Why isnt the upgrade working?
[16:16] <Andy80> david_r: ok, I try
[16:16] <trism> bobweaver: I would say /usr/share/pixmaps/ if you are just copying that single icon, /usr/share/icons/ is more for icon themes (although it looks like cabextract decided to go the other way...)
[16:16] <deithrian> Which option to choose in the additional drivers for the most up to date drivers? The post release or current?
[16:16] <DeadMeat67> i've done a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[16:16] <dogmatic69> I have a plotter that has stopped working, I have been running 12.04 since b2 and it was fine. Since updating it no longer works
[16:16] <dogmatic69> it is just a usb->serial connection
[16:17] <bobweaver> trism, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dwww/+bug/988937
[16:17] <dogmatic69> anyone know what has happened or how I could fix it?
[16:17] <sacarlson> Fat-Thing: low connection?  you mean slow Internet?
[16:17] <bobweaver> trism,  I am trying to fix that bug
[16:17] <rymate1234> woo
[16:17] <awisepilot> I've done the apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and now the upgrade is not fround
[16:17] <rymate1234> this is gonna be fun
[16:17] <rymate1234> updating from 12.04 beta 2 to the full release
[16:17] <ghabit> Hello. Help! I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[16:18] <bobweaver> ghabit,  you have seen ubuntu tv >?
[16:18] <rymate1234> I assume i just use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[16:18] <rymate1234> right?
[16:18] <Fat-Thing> sacarlson, yes!
[16:18] <david_r> yes rymate
[16:18] <awisepilot> When I do a release upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says: No New Release Found.  Why isnt the upgrade working? I followed instruction verbatim.  What's the deal here
[16:19] <bobweaver> ghabit,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq_WaOLjdyQ
[16:19] <ghabit> bobweaver, nope, just installed ubuntu and don't know any software
[16:19] <sacarlson> Fat-Thing: wifi or wired?
[16:19] <DeadMeat67> i've also tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot  try do-release-upgrade
[16:19] <bobweaver> ghabit,  you might also like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-install-ubuntu-tv-right-now-via-ppa/
[16:19] <ghabit> bobweaver, wow, but how to use it? ^) On TV
[16:19] <alien64> welp here goes nothin upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04
[16:20] <mouth1> can i use unetbootin with ubuntu 12.04 even though it's not officially supported yet?
[16:20] <awisepilot> I did sudo do-release-upgrade and it says No New Release
[16:20] <JuJuBee> Any ideas why postfix seems to stop running by itself?  I have to restart it every couple of weeks
[16:20] <ghabit> one more question - is there some difference between ubuntu updated to 12.04 and fresh install of 12.04?
[16:21] <trism> bobweaver: he probably just doesn't have gnome-desktop-data installed, it is installed here and the icon is in /usr/share/pixmaps (and a desktop file finds it when I make a test one)
[16:21] <Fat-Thing> sacarlson, wired connection!
[16:21] <awisepilot> You cant upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 so do a fresh install
[16:21] <awisepilot> It doesn't work
[16:21] <bobweaver> trism,  that he is me and should that not install via control file ?
[16:22] <bobweaver> if it depends on it that is
[16:22] <Flannel> awisepilot: yes you can.  LTS to LTS.
[16:22] <sacarlson> fat-thing: when did it change?  maybe mtu settings?  http://compnetworking.about.com/od/networkprotocols/g/mtu-maximum.htm
[16:22] <Andy80> david_r: once I login my resolution is set to 1680x1050, but on LightDM screen I still have 1024x768, now I'll paste you the new log, wait...
[16:22] <nathan_> hey guys my logitech mic is freezing ubuntu
[16:22]  * Menno wonders what's ch anged from 3.2.0-22 to -23
[16:22] <dpaigen> Hello.  I am having an install problem: my usb stick freezes on an acer aspire one
[16:22] <awisepilot> Nope, I did a fresh install last night 10.04 and now today I am trying to upgrade to 12.04 and it says No new Release
[16:22] <mouth1> can i use unetbootin with ubuntu 12.04 even though it's not officially supported yet?
[16:22] <Menno> mouth1: yes
[16:23] <ntadej_> Hi everyone!
[16:23] <ntadej_> Can anyone help me with python-sip problems with 12.04? (Google and Launchpad aren't helpful)
[16:23] <awisepilot> I should have waited a few more hours before wasting my time installing 10.04 since now I have to blow away 10.04 to get to 12.04.  I just wish this stuff worked as printed.
[16:23] <Flannel> awisepilot: Yeah, the LTS releases will wait a week or two before having 'everyone' upgrade.
[16:23] <Andy80> david_r: here it is http://pastebin.com/8Y6qBg6m
[16:24] <Flannel> awisepilot: For stability, but also for the fact that the upgrade servers are going to be molasses for a few days.
[16:24] <ntadej_> /build/buildd/sip4-4.13.2/siplib/siplib.c:10938: sipEnumType_alloc: Assertion `( ( ( currentType )->td_flags & 0x0007 ) == 0x0003 )' failed.
[16:24] <ntadej_> Aborted ( core dumped )
[16:24] <sary> Flannel: i thought thats the way to do i before , but i was told today that you have to wait for 12.04.1 to be released to upgrade from an LTS to the next.
[16:24] <deithrian> Which version of Nvidia drivers are we installing with the Additional drivers thing on 12.04?
[16:25] <deithrian> Is it so bloody hard to display the version of the driver in that application?!
[16:25] <Flannel> sary: I've never heard that as policy.
[16:25] <sary> dpaigen: you mean i freezes when you boot from it to try ubuntu !
[16:25] <mouth1> ok Menno thanks
[16:25] <bobweaver> trism,  thanks ! you are awesome
[16:25] <nathan_> can anyone help me figure out why my mic is freezing my computer
[16:25] <awisepilot> They should have not printed this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer  if they never intended for it to work until next week.
[16:25] <dpaigen> sary if I don't touch it the live system boots, if I try to arrow down it freezes
[16:25] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[16:26] <awisepilot> The instruction are simple and easy but the delivery is bad!
[16:26] <mouth1> Menno, what ubuntu version should i choose in unetbootin?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> Menno  OT: maybe this link is helpful https://www.linux.com/news/software/linux-kernel
[16:26] <mouth1> 11.10 or daily live x64 ?
[16:27] <osse> If I install 12.04 from scratch and specify a certain partition as /home, can I avoid formatting it and keep my data in place?
[16:27] <osse> Perhaps move dotfiles and such out of the way first
[16:27] <Flannel> awisepilot: I'm not going to argue with you there.  But Some people won't see it for a few days anyway just due to the nature of their mirror.  I'm sure there's a way to insist right now, lets just figure out what it is.
[16:28] <sary> dpaigen: so the issue comes from the usb stick itself , i thought youre having an issue booing to the live CD .. in that case it might a grahpic card issue but then you might be able to pass that with some boot-options.
[16:28] <trism> bobweaver: no problem
[16:28] <awisepilot> A simple Oh the way, upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 will be available next week.  There should be a way Flannel, someone is just not telling us.
[16:29] <DTS> hi ppl
[16:29] <area51pilot> :)
[16:29] <Andy80> david_r: I can't find any "not found" this time and the resolution is parsed and added (else I could not have it right now) the problem is still that is not used by default....
[16:29] <Menno> MonkeyDust: -22 -23 are Ubuntu things
[16:29] <Menno> not upstream
[16:29] <buzzkill> osse:  if the exsting box has /home partitioned separately, yes. If not, then no.
[16:29] <mouth1> can i use startup disk creator that comes with ubuntu 11.10 to create an ubuntu 12.04 usb drive?
[16:29] <Jordan_U> mouth1: What OS are you using to create the USB drive?
[16:30] <mouth1> ubuntu 11.10
[16:30] <Menno> is there a way to see the changelog.Debian without downloading the entire .deb?
[16:30] <david_r> Andy80 in your paste around 16.282 it says Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 0)
[16:30] <a_b0y> mouth1 i use Unetbootin
[16:30] <mouth1> Jordan_U, ubuntu 11.10
[16:30] <vitiho> Hi, I'm trying to do an automated install on ubuntu 12.04 over the network and every time I get a message: Warning.. restricted/binary-amd64/Packages was corrupt
[16:30] <Jordan_U> mouth1: Yes: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[16:30] <mouth1> thanks
[16:30] <dpaigen> sary this is an Acer laptop, an Asprire One 722.  Radeon HD 6290 graphics.  Any suggestions for boot options to change?
[16:30] <Jordan_U> mouth1: You're welcome.
[16:31] <DeadMeat67> is there any reason that on both of my 11.10 boxes (one server and one desktop) that I get no new release found when I do-release-upgrade?
[16:31] <vitiho> I've tried to apply solution of unzipping packages file, but then I get message: Couldn't retrieve Packages. This may be a network issue...
[16:31] <DeadMeat67> i've done an apt-get update
[16:31] <Flannel> awisepilot: So, lets try the normal ones, are you fully up to date with 10.04?
[16:31] <Andy80> david_r: maybe there is an option to specify the "virtual size" ?
[16:31] <nosbor> DeadMeat67  ive had that a couple of times today even after doing apt-get update. i think it's just timing out when connecting to the server
[16:31] <dpaigen>  Are there general issues booting older USB sticks on newer motherboards?
[16:32] <DeadMeat67> oh, OK, I'm not on the fastest of links to start with
[16:32] <DeadMeat67> thanks
[16:32] <awisepilot> Flannel: To the tee, I follow instruction precisely
[16:32] <osse> buzzkill, yes the partition in question is my actual /home partition as we speak. I'd like to to a clean install because I have upgraded twice on this install and since I grew up with Windows I just assume at one point everything will break :P
[16:32] <david_r> Andy80 yes, try this: http://pastebin.com/XYdJfn4C
[16:32] <awisepilot> Everything is up to date
[16:32] <Flannel> awisepilot: alright.  And this is a server? or do you prefer the GUI?
[16:33] <ripthejacker> someone please help me
[16:33] <ripthejacker> i am getting this message
[16:33] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[16:33] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[16:33] <awisepilot> Even check the file release-upgrades and set Prompt=lts.
[16:33] <awisepilot> This is a server
[16:33] <Raimondi_> Hi there. I installed ubuntu via wubi and i've been waiting for half an hour at the "Preparing to run Ubuntu for the first time..." screen. SHould I keep waiting or do something else?
[16:33] <ogra_> awisepilot, LTS to LTS upgrades will only be offered for 12.04.1
[16:33] <Andy80> david_r: done, I'll reboot again. Thanks.
[16:33] <mouth1> Jordan_U, i use AHCI, HPET 64 bit and Power Mode S3, does that work stable with ubuntu or should i revert back to default BIOS settings?
[16:34] <ssfdre38> where is the MD5 string located at on the site?
[16:34] <awisepilot> ogra: not according to this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer
[16:34] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[16:34] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[16:34] <BFranks> Is gparted the best/only format recovery util I can try? .. It sees the drive and then says it can't make a read-only view of the disk due to locking issues (swap?) ..
[16:34] <ripthejacker> please help me
[16:34] <ogra_> awisepilot, well, then the policy has changed, we never offered LTS to LTS before .1
[16:35] <ogra_> would be a novum
[16:35] <buzzkill> osse:  just make sure you document the existing partition (/dev/sd[a-z][0-9]) and choose manual partitioning. I would _always_ recommend a backup anyway, but I have done this without issue for many releases.
[16:35] <awisepilot> orgra: if the that is the case, the website needs to reflect that information
[16:35] <caleress> hey guys, any1 ever tried to boot ubuntu live from htc android phone via usb cable?
[16:36] <Flannel> awisepilot: Give `do-release-upgrade -d` a try
[16:36] <awisepilot> Flannel: trying now
[16:37] <caleress> like install it on the sd card and then boot
[16:37] <Fulci> I have an install of Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 and today it did an update via the update manager. Does that mean I know have the "final" version or do I have to do something special to go from Beta 2 to "final" version?
[16:37] <awisepilot> Flannel: U da man, it is working.  Ogra: It is available, Flannel figured it out.  Now someone needs to update the website to tell everyone the -d option.
[16:38] <smittix> Anyone know how to fix this? GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:38] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot  worked for me, without the -d option
[16:38] <jamesprice> I downloaded the 12.04-desktop-amd64 torrent a few hours ago; Is it the beta2 or final?  How can I tell?
[16:38] <danopia_> beta2 has beta2 in hte name
[16:38] <Flannel> jamesprice: hash it, then check against the md5 of the final (which you can get from the blagonets)
[16:38] <awisepilot> MonkeyDust: What was your prior version?
[16:38] <sary> dpaigen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[16:38] <chz|bacon> cheers for ubuntu!
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot  it was 11.10, you have another?
[16:39] <jamesprice> thanks
[16:39] <ogra_> awisepilot, oh, indeed if you force it to -d or --development that will always work :)
[16:39] <chz|bacon> so glad the LTS is finally here, kudos to those working on the project.
[16:39] <osse> buzzkill, backups are not a problem :) Do you do anything else before installing? I have a feeling that moving everything to a temporary dir and moving it back afterwards would be a good idea (at least move hidden conf files and stuff in the "standard" directories, XDG-something?=
[16:39] <ogra_> awisepilot, i pinged the relevant people to fix the release notes to not give the impression it is available nefore .1
[16:39] <ogra_> *before
[16:40] <awisepilot> MonkeyDust: I am on 10.04 following the instructions for 10.04 to 12.04 and it does work as instructed by the website.  You need the -d option as Flannel discovered.
[16:40] <abiss27> by chance can someone tell me where can I get, an ubuntu minimal final release 12.04 ISO.
[16:40] <ron> how do I upgrade to 12.04 from console?
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot  learned something new then
[16:40] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[16:40] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[16:40] <nosbor> sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> ron  do-release-upgrade
[16:40] <awisepilot> Orga: It is available with the -d option.
[16:40] <Skaag> What's a nice i7 laptop that isn't expensive and will run ubuntu very well?
[16:41] <ron> danke :)
[16:41] <buzzkill> osse:  I just do a 'mount' and note, that on my computer, /dev/sda3 is my /home partition. From there, It is a manual partitioning option (and choose the right filesystem, and not to format) that's all.
[16:41] <Skaag> I bought this asus u46e yesterday from best buy but it doesn't even boot the USB stick I prepared
[16:41] <dpaigen> sary: I will investigate.  Thanks for the pointer.
[16:41] <ripthejacker> can someone help me i am getting this message
[16:41] <ron> have a great <time of day>!
[16:41] <ripthejacker> CCP terminated by peer (No compression negotiated^@)
[16:41] <ripthejacker> Compression disabled by peer.
[16:41] <Andy80> david_r: I still have the same problem, and this is the new log: http://pastebin.com/pTpf2WrJ - please note another problem (don't know if they're related or not) from the moment I enter my password and press enter and the moment I get Unity fully loaded, it takes about 20-30 seconds :\ (I've an Intel Core 2 3Ghx and 4Gb RAM, not a so slow PC...)
[16:41] <awisepilot> Flannel: How did you figure the -d option out?
[16:41] <belgianguy> I can't upgrade
[16:42] <belgianguy> says it has problems veryfying packets Flash and Skype
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  what goes wrong?
[16:42] <acalbaza> anyone having trouble with eclipse context menus in 12.04?
[16:42] <rymate1234> meh
[16:42] <Fulci> Will the UPDATE MANAGER automatically update 12.04 Beta 2 to the FINAL version or do I have to do something special?
[16:42] <osse> buzzkill, sure, no problem. I just don't want it to overwrite my .bashrc or delete my Shotwell database
[16:42] <rymate1234> Fulci, seems to be
[16:42] <Skaag> acalbaza: Maybe try the regular java from sun instead of openjdk
[16:42] <rymate1234> its taking a while to download
[16:42] <belgianguy> adobe-flash-properties-gtk | adobe-flashplugin | skype | skype-bin:i386
[16:42] <Skaag> acalbaza: Just a guess
[16:43] <zrtsch> Does anyone know what causes the error mountall: Plymouth command failed, mountall: Disconnected from plymouth ? This is happening on first install on several machines lately
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  how do you upgrade, gui, terminal?
[16:43] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: gui
[16:43] <Andy80> Fulci: yes it should... if you don't have any upgrades available, you already have latest version
[16:43] <buzzkill> osse:  those are in /home/osse (or what ever your username is) and should not be touched at all.
[16:44] <Flannel> awisepilot: Uh... -d is standard for upgrading to development releases, which is what 10.04 is going to treat 12.04 as (for purposes of update manager) before the "ok, its time to upgrade" is pushed out.
[16:44] <alien64> holy crap 1510 packages to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04
[16:44] <acalbaza> Skaag: sorry about that, running hotspot <IP_ADDRESS> at the moment
[16:44] <rhizmoe> i can't find any place where "ubuntu alternate" is explained
[16:44] <Fulci> Thanks all for anwersing my questions. Have a nice day!
[16:44] <buzzkill> osse:  you could of course always tar them up, if space and time are not issues.
[16:44] <Flannel> rhizmoe: What about it do you want to know?
[16:44] <Skaag> acalbaza: im not familiar with hotspot
[16:44] <disrageous> Help me get rid of this Unity UI and go back to the old way!
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> alien64  yes, took more than 60 miutes here
[16:44] <acalbaza> Skaag: "Sun's" jdk
[16:44] <gizero> Hi. How do I get my Google Calendar events integrated into the stock calendar widget in Ubuntu?
[16:44] <Skaag> I see
[16:45] <Skaag> Strange then
[16:45] <rhizmoe> Flannel: what it is!
[16:45] <osse> buzzkill, but new users (including on a fresh install) get their own .bashrc and so on. So what if there is one there already?
[16:45] <tehowe_> disrageous: install gnome. log out. log back in using gnome-classic
[16:45] <ogra_> awisepilot, -d just means upgrade to the next version regardless (-d means developpment version)
[16:45] <osse> Well, it's actually pretty easy. I back it up and see what happens! :)
[16:45] <ogra_> awisepilot, its documented in the manpage
[16:46] <acalbaza> Skaag: i'm not sure if its 12.04 mouse handling or if its eclipse.
[16:46] <Flannel> rhizmoe: So, the Desktop CD is a LiveCD, that you can install from.  The alternate CD is an install CD (no LiveCD) its text-based (text menus) and installs from packages contained on the CD.  It gives you more flexibility with what to install,
[16:46] <action09> hi on a Giada n20 i install 12.04 but during copy of installation files i've no progress bar increasing and a lot of "ata1.00: status error, configured for UDMA/133 and error [{ UNC } ..any clue please ?
[16:46] <awisepilot> orga: -d option is the development version of 12.04?
[16:46] <ogra_> awisepilot, as i said, i notified the right people to fix the releaswe notes to mention its only enabled at .1 time
[16:46] <abiss27> by chance can someone tell me where can I get, an ubuntu minimal final release 12.04 ISO.
[16:46] <tehowe_> Flannel: Are the amd64-uefi-mac and powerpc desktop ISOs Live CDs as well?
[16:46] <rhizmoe> and for what it's worth, the explanation of alternate here seems overly terse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[16:46] <Flannel> rhizmoe: It's the same installer "experience" as the server CD, and the minimal CD is the alternate CD without the packages.
[16:47] <Flannel> tehowe_: Any "Desktop" CD is a LiveCD
[16:47] <rymate1234> hmmm
[16:47] <ogra_> awisepilot, no, it just tells do-release-upgrade "use the next available version" (which is usually the development version)
[16:47] <belgianguy> nowadays opting for a LiveUSB is even more fun
[16:47] <rymate1234> how would I check what version of ubuntu I'm running
[16:47] <belgianguy> you can save files then
[16:47] <rhizmoe> Flannel: not sure i understand it, but on a day like today this is just a curious quibble on my part. not important. :)
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> rymate1234  lsb_release -sd
[16:47] <rymate1234> so i can see whether I'm on the final version or the beta
[16:47] <david_r> Andy80 add this to your "Monitor" section: Option      "PreferredMode" "1680x1050"
[16:47] <rymate1234> thx MonkeyDust
[16:48] <awisepilot> orga: What is development version then?
[16:48] <Flannel> rhizmoe: The desktop CD installs by copying the LiveCD image onto your computer (so it has very little flexibility on what packages ot install), with the alternate CD, youcan install a GUI, textmode only, only certain packages, etc, etc.
[16:48] <ogra_> awisepilot, since there are thousands of commercial users of ubuntu server, LTS to LTS is always only enabled once the .1 version is out
[16:48] <disrageous> tehowe, Literally the "gnome" package, and all its 275 dependencies?
[16:48] <Steevca> I have just upgraded to 12.04 and the launcher won't hide.What should i do?
[16:48] <david_r> Andy80 and you can probably remove the virtual screen size.
[16:48] <yannick> is 12.04 available in software update? couldn't find it atm :(
[16:48] <Andy80> david_r: I remove the whole SubSection?
[16:48] <ogra_> awisepilot, there is no development version on release day :) (next week there will be the Q version, open for development)
[16:48] <nosbor> rymate1234  I use the nice tool called sysinfo  you can get it from the repositories
[16:49] <disrageous> tehowe_,  Literally the "gnome" package, and all its 275 dependencies?
[16:49] <david_r> yeah you probably dont need it any more
[16:49] <david_r> if the preferredmode thing works
[16:49] <rhizmoe> Flannel: ah, so like "advanced mode," thanks!
[16:49] <n8ofsp8ds> can someone please help me
[16:49] <Andy80> david_r: ok, let me try again, thanks :)
[16:50] <rhizmoe> n8ofsp8ds: only if you ask a question
[16:50] <awisepilot> Orga:  I just did the -d option and now I am at the point where it download 312 M of data and asking me if I want to Continue or not.  What is it trying to install?
[16:50] <teicah> how do I zoom desktop in brand new installed precise?
[16:50] <Flannel> rhizmoe: Sure, but it can also be simple (asking the same questions as the LiveCD), it just gives you the option of asking more questions
[16:50] <n8ofsp8ds> ok my mic freezes ubuntu
[16:50] <ogra_> awisepilot, 12.04
[16:50] <sary> dpaigen: you're most welcom , i think there is a specific kernel boot option to pass your AMD/ATI card , but i can't quite remember !
[16:51] <ogra_> awisepilot, with 12.04.1 you will not need -d
[16:51] <beachkid> New here so please bear with me.  Does anyone know the md5sum number for 'ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso'?
[16:51] <nitzs> why doesn't the dash cover the entire screen?
[16:51] <awisepilot> Ogra: I am confussed.  You said it was not available until verion 12.04.1.
[16:52] <bazhang> !hashes | beachkid
[16:52] <llutz> beachkid: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[16:52] <ogra_> awisepilot, yes, with -d you force the upgrade
[16:52] <teicah> how do I zoom desktop in brand new installed precise? 10x
[16:52] <RobinJ1995> How long is it supposed to take GParted to resize a partition? :/
[16:52] <Dr_willis> RobinJ1995,  depends on a lot of things
[16:52] <beachkid> Thanks!
[16:52] <RobinJ1995> Dr_willis, like..? :p
[16:53] <beandog> RobinJ1995: a looooooong time usually
[16:53] <n8ofsp8ds> is there something i need to change so my logitech wont freeze ubuntu ?
[16:53] <awisepilot> Ogra_: Is there a problem using he forces upgrade?
[16:53] <awisepilot> Ogra_: Is there a problem using the forces upgrade?
[16:53] <beandog> RobinJ1995: don't stop it or you'll really bork everything
[16:53] <cap> I'm hoping to use a Libertas 802.11b/g Wireless network interface and was trying to follow some instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/mrv8k  and doesn't seem to work for me.  Maybe there are some updated instructions.  (OS=10.04.4 LTS)
[16:53] <awisepilot> Ogra_: Is there a problem using the forced upgrade?
[16:53] <cousin_luigi> hello
[16:53] <RobinJ1995> Dr_willis, it's a 6-core 3.3 Ghz with 8GB of RAM, and a 2TB hard drive :p
[16:53] <belgianguy> how much of a liability is it to be on xchat while upgrading?
[16:53] <RobinJ1995> beandog, i know
[16:53] <beandog> belgianguy: none
[16:53] <matc21> I can't login anymore after installing 12.04 and keeping my /home partition. anyone has a clue how to fix this?
[16:53] <belgianguy> beandog: great
[16:54] <ogra_> awisepilot, no, but the official upgrade will only be enabled on .1 ... i wouldnt suggest to use -d on a company server though
[16:54] <RobinJ1995> belgianguy, zou ni uit moge make :p
[16:54]  * cousin_luigi upgraded from cd and now he's receiving a bad sig error from apt: tried deleting and recreating /var/lib/apt/lists but nothing changed: any hints?
[16:55] <Andy80> david_r: it didn't work, but a question... maybe it should be Option      "PreferredMode" "1680x1050R" ? please note the "R" since I've Modeline "1680x1050R"  119.00  1680 1728 1760 1840  1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync
[16:55] <RobinJ1995> Why didn't I just create a seperate partition for data from the start >.< now i have to spend hours to move everything over
[16:55] <cap> matc21: What kind of error do you see?
[16:55] <beandog> Does anyone know any good cloud storage options that have linux tools?
[16:55] <zrtsch> Does anyone know what causes the error mountall: Plymouth command failed, mountall: Disconnected from plymouth ? This is happening on first install on several machines lately
[16:55] <RobinJ1995> beandog, ubuntu one
[16:55] <david_r> Andy80: That makes sense but I don't know the answer
[16:56] <matc21> cap can't see any errors, they are disappearing instantly
[16:56] <zrtsch> I've fixed it before by editing the grub line, but I forget what it was that I changed
[16:56] <Andy80> david_r: I'll just try :)
[16:56] <beandog> RobinJ1995: oh yah, derp ... why didnt I think of that.
[16:56] <matc21> cap: login into guest account works fine
[16:56] <belgianguy> RobinJ1995: dan ga ik het riskeren ;)
[16:56] <zrtsch> People online are referring to nvidia drivers, but I just installed ubuntu minimal. I don't have any nvidia drivers installed.
[16:56] <Steevca> I have just upgraded to 12.04 and the launcher won't hide.What should i do? Can anyone help me with this? The launcher won't auto hide,it's stuck on the left side on of the screen and won't move when i open an folder or some software.
[16:56] <RobinJ1995> :p
[16:56] <belgianguy> I'll keep the rest in English :p
[16:56] <cap> matc21: Do you have a user set up for /home/matc21  (with same name?)
[16:56] <matc21> cap: yes same name, even the same password
[16:56] <teicah> how do I zoom desktop in brand new installed precise? 10x
[16:57] <beandog> RobinJ1995: do you know if they have some good cli tools?  that's what I need
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> beandog, cli tools for what?
[16:57] <cap> matc21: What happens when you boot the system?  What do you see on the screen?
[16:57] <beandog> RobinJ1995: uploading stuff
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> eh
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> just dump it in your ubuntu one folder? :p
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> then it gets uploaded automatically
[16:57] <elkingrey> I've just run the sudo apt-get update command in order to begin the upgrade process to 12.04 and received this error: http://pastebin.com/L7u90hCw Anybody know what that's all about?
[16:57] <matc21> cap: booting is perfectly fine, it just goes back to lightDM
[16:57] <beandog> RobinJ1995: hmm okay
[16:57] <RobinJ1995> so cp ./file ~/Ubuntu\ One/file
[16:57] <cousin_luigi> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5
[16:58] <cap> matc21: what is "lightDM"
[16:58] <matc21> the login manager
[16:58] <RobinJ1995> hahah updates are going just as crappy as always? :p
[16:58] <RobinJ1995> *upgrades
[16:58] <cap> matc21: So can you type in the name of the user?
[16:59] <matc21> cap: yes, even the password...then I press login, screen goes black and back to login again
[16:59] <cap> !password | matc21
[16:59] <matc21> cap: its definitely not a wrong password
[16:59] <RobinJ1995> matc21, yay, you've got a crashing lightdm =D
[17:00] <RobinJ1995> honestly, beta 2 was more bugfree than the release xD
[17:00] <cap> matc21: Ctrl-ALt-F6   and login
[17:00] <matc21> lemme try
[17:00] <matc21> brb
[17:00] <RobinJ1995> 2 crashes and 2 bugs so far
[17:00] <RobinJ1995> none with beta 2
[17:00] <RobinJ1995> appart from pulseaudio
[17:00] <matc21> F6 mode works fine
[17:01] <gizero> In the Dash, how do I switch from one "tab" (the bottom ones) to another using the keyboard?
[17:01] <matc21> can login without problems
[17:01] <RobinJ1995> gizero, ctrl+tab
[17:01] <Andy80> david_r: this time it worked :) thank you so much!
[17:01] <gizero> RobinJ1995, Thank you
[17:02] <david_r> Internet high five!
[17:02] <juhy> hello everybody
[17:03] <nosbor> (18:01:24) nosbor: i'm sure it's been asked before but does anyone know where the md5sum check sums can be found for 12.04 ?
[17:03] <vaska> zghghj
[17:03] <llutz> nosbor:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[17:03] <GriGi> Hi, I just updated 11.10 to 12.04 and got little problem with Unity :/. In 11.10 bar on the left was "fixed" but it was hiding when I maximalized something or drag some window over that bar. But now it doesn't hide :/. I found option in Settings -> Apperance, called "autohide", but then bar hide even when nothing is maximised.
[17:03] <nosbor> thanks :)
[17:03] <Dan-The-Man> nosbor, is it bad that I never check the md5 when installing ubuntu
[17:03] <gizero> You're supposed to be able to configure Unity in the Appearence section of system settings I've read, but you can only change like 3-4 things there. That's it?
[17:03] <DTS> Jesus is alive amin!
[17:04] <GriGi> I want it to hide when some window is maximalised, but when everything is minimalised it shouldn't hide :/. Can I do that? I was trying MyUnity, but it have only the same option like Settings -> Apperance.
[17:04] <Dan-The-Man> GriGi, i think that feature was called window dodge and i beleive its been removed
[17:05] <krababbel> teicah: don't you have the icon in the menu bar at the top?
[17:05] <nosbor> Dan-the-man     no i normally don't but this time i've done it via a torrent and want to make sure on before installing on my main machine
[17:05] <pwasek> I am looking for a crm solution any suggestions?
[17:05] <cap> matc21: Well, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/902698 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/903299 or  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/973184
[17:05] <Dan-The-Man> nosbor, ah i see, makes sense
[17:05] <GriGi> Dan-The-Man, Yes, it was window dodge :/. Im afraid that you're right, it's not a bug it's a feature -,-.
[17:06] <testi> I have Ubuntu 10.04. How do I update to 12.04? I expected the update management to notify me, but it doesn't
[17:06] <RobinJ1995> testi, update-manager -g (i think)
[17:06] <nosbor> Dan-The-Man   as it turns out i've just checked it and all is fine. of i go to create the cd from ISO   :)
[17:07] <r4y> I want to know when 12.04.01 will come out and if I should wait for it to come out?, I want to back up my files from my other hard drive. I just had hard drive troubles, but I used dban then spinrite so I am ready to back up.
[17:07] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, in Unity 2D you can get that beheaviour back using my (unfinished) tool: http://www.robinj.be/unity-2d-config-util/
[17:07] <testi> RobinJ1995, "man update-manager" doesn't list the -g option.
[17:08] <RobinJ1995> testi, just try, i dunno
[17:08] <openvoid_> testi do-releade-update -d
[17:08] <RobinJ1995> testi, my bad, it's -d
[17:08] <Pici> openvoid_: RobinJ1995, testi: do not use -d
[17:08] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, but it doesn't work in normal Unity, only 2D? Thanks anyway, I'll try it :).
[17:08] <testi> RobinJ1995, but -d is for devel-releases
[17:08] <RobinJ1995> oh
[17:09] <RobinJ1995> i thought devel-release just meant release >.<
[17:09] <openvoid_> but its not recommended on companys servers
[17:09] <RobinJ1995> testi, in that case, do what openvoid says
[17:09] <cap> matc21: Do permissions look ok in your /home/matc21 directory?
[17:09] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, dunno for sure about unity 3d
[17:09] <dimitris> hello
[17:09] <Artemis3> RobinJ1995, -d is for the next version in development, 12.10
[17:09] <dimitris> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 but i have a bug
[17:10] <openvoid_> there no next development version until next week
[17:10] <oglavas> Hello. Anyone here with 12.04 and Cinnamon ?
[17:10] <Guest34418> Why Ubuntu changed to using Empathy? I liked Pidgin better.
[17:10] <henaaque> how do i install drivers to inte gma 4500?  (ubuntu 12.04)
[17:10] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, can you tell me how to install it? I've hever installed anything from launchpad
[17:10] <Artemis3> Guest34418, just install pidgin ;)
[17:10] <Guest34418> Empathy does have better conversation dialog appearance though.
[17:10] <Monotoko> hey guys... why is my update keeping some back? http://pastebin.com/unjQWNkX
[17:11] <tehcaseman> back. using xchat. easy enough
[17:11] <dimitris> the screen is too dark to see what is there ! but screen still works ( tested on windows)
[17:11] <Guest34418> Artemis3: YEa... But I would rather my chat client to be better integreated with Unity.
[17:11] <Dan-The-Man> Guest34418, just install pidgin, go to system settings, then details, then prefered apps and change it to pidgin
[17:11] <belgianguy> Guest34418: xchat?
[17:11] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, it doesn't have a deb package yet. just download the exe here (yes, it's an exe, and yes, it's for linux): http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~robinj/unity-2d-config-util/trunk/files/head:/bin/Debug/
[17:12] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, sudo apt-get install mono
[17:12] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, and then you should be able to run it
[17:12] <Zef> coma
[17:12] <Artemis3> belgianguy, xchat is an irc client
[17:12] <GriGi> Okay, thanks. I'll try :).
[17:12] <belgianguy> lol
[17:12] <belgianguy> I wasn't paying attention
[17:12] <belgianguy> sorry
[17:12] <belgianguy> disregard that
[17:12] <testi> do-release-upgrade says: Checking for a new ubuntu release
[17:12] <testi> No new release found
[17:12] <oglavas> I have been using Cinnamon for a couple of weeks now, but just this noon, it gave me an empty desktop with no icons/bars/menus. Does anyone have an idea on what's going on?
[17:12] <Monotoko> hmm... why is my update keeping some back?  :( I would quite like those wallpapers, I'm on beta2 http://pastebin.com/unjQWNkX
[17:12] <testi> What can I do about that?
[17:12] <Dan-The-Man> this channel is moving hella fast right now lol
[17:13] <testi> Maybe it's not yet on my mirror?
[17:13] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, it's my first linux application, and it's unfinished, but the basic features work well enough.
[17:13] <openvoid_> testi with -d ?
[17:13] <Pici> openvoid_: please stop suggesting -d.
[17:13] <Guest34418> belgianguy: Ewww no. Lol, but thanks for the suggestion though. I like Konversation IRC better. The thing with Xchat is that quite a few of their stuff is not documented and I do not like how I can not DO server notices and have /WHOIS appear in the same chat window I am currently looking at.
[17:13] <testi> openvoid_ it says -d is for development releases
[17:13] <Pici> openvoid_: That is only for upgrading to development releases. 12.04 is no longer the development release.
[17:13] <ogra_> Pici, well, its ok, but should be suggested with a warning
[17:13] <openvoid_> -d is safe until nex week
[17:13] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, "sudo apt-get install mono" -> "Can't find package called mono" :/
[17:13] <testi> Could it be that my local mirror doesn't have it yet?
[17:13] <trism> Monotoko: you need to: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; (the ubuntu-wallpapers were split out into ubuntu-wallpapers-precise, so it needs to install a new package)
[17:13] <dimitris> the laptop's  screen is too dark to see what is there ! but screen still works ( tested on windows) ubuntu works correctly from external monitor ! any sugestions ?
[17:14] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, er... what? >.< don't tell me they removed it from the repos...
[17:14] <ogra_> Pici, -d is exactly what you need until 12.04.1 enables the automatic upgrades
[17:14] <Monotoko> trism, that did it! Thank you
[17:14] <Pici> ogra_: really? Is this documented anywhere?
[17:14] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, what laptop
[17:14] <openvoid_> the 10.04 will not updated until .1 is out
[17:14] <dimitris> emachine e525
[17:14] <nitzs> Dan-The-Man: this moment doesn't occur everyday.
[17:14] <dimitris> emachines e525
[17:14] <Artemis3> dimitris, did you try using the laptop keys for brightness? usually fn - something
[17:14] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, it's been renamed mono-runtime
[17:14] <dimitris> yes
[17:15] <Monotoko> hmmm... I think the GB repo is being hammered :/
[17:15] <Johhn> My brother trolled my and removed unity from ubuntu 12.04.How do i get it back?
[17:15] <dimitris> i have full brightness and software and hardware ;)
[17:15] <Johhn> I am stuck with unity-2d
[17:15] <RobinJ1995> Johhn, by torturing him :')
[17:15] <intrader> Where does tomboy store files in 11.10. In 10.10 I could find a folder .tomboy (hidden)
[17:15] <RobinJ1995> Johhn, sudo apt-get install unity
[17:15] <Johhn> RobinJ1995: That is for sure.
[17:15] <Johhn> :D
[17:16] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, please type my name when talking so i can see the comment easier.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1964814 try the section about fixing screen brightness (I realize its a different laptop but its worth a shot)
[17:16] <openvoid_> the 10.04 will not be updated until .1 is out, testi -d will force it, but ok only until next week and not good for valuable servers
[17:16] <Artemis3> dimitris, is it working fine with another OS; live cd?
[17:16] <Johhn> RobinJ1995: I did that.I can log out and click the unity but when it enteres there is nothing.Just a wallpaper.
[17:16] <Johhn> He tolled me that he had remove compiz package.
[17:16] <RobinJ1995> ouch, er...
[17:16] <Pici> openvoid_: sorry, my mistake.
[17:16] <Johhn> Unity,unity-desktop or something.
[17:16] <RobinJ1995> Johhn, would explain it. sudo apt-get install ompiz
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> *copiz
[17:17] <Johhn> Idiot.I am going to kill him.
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> *compiz
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> can't type xd
[17:17] <testi> openvoid, so how would you update after next week and before .1 is out?
[17:17] <ogra_> openvoid, even after next week -d will get you to 12.04 ... (do-release-upgrade wont skip a version)
[17:17] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, Okay it shows that I already got mono-runtime. I clicked RMB on that .exe, and choose "run in mono-runtime" and nothing happens. When I choose "run in mono-runtime in console" console just apperars and disappear after one second
[17:17] <testi> ogra_, okay - thanks!
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, derp
[17:17] <auronandace> ogra_: doesn't -d imply development?
[17:17] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, er.... open a terminal and go to the folder where the exe is stored. then run it from a terminal
[17:18] <ogra_> auronandace, yes, but if the next release isnt a development release it will just force the upgrade to the next available
[17:18] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, that way you can see what the problem is, and i can try to fix it now or in a future version :p
[17:18] <Dan-The-Man> RobinJ1995, exe for linux!?
[17:18] <dimitris> Artemis3 it works fine on windows but i has the same problem and on backtrak :S
[17:18] <RobinJ1995> Dan-The-Man, yes
[17:18] <auronandace> ogra_: thanks for the info
[17:18] <RobinJ1995> Dan-The-Man, gnome do, docky, ... are all exe's
[17:18] <RobinJ1995> even tomboy
[17:19] <ogra_> -d just means "do it even if its not enabled yet"
[17:19] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, I should type ./filename.exe ?
[17:19] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, did u try my suggestion?
[17:19] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, think so, works for mze
[17:19] <anomalies> err.. no aircrack-ng at 12.04
[17:19] <dlentz> Dan-The-Man, mono programs use exe
[17:19] <RobinJ1995> anomalies, airecrack-ng
[17:19] <belgianguy> mono = C# wrapper, right?
[17:20] <RobinJ1995> belgianguy, yeah
[17:20] <anomalies> ouw
[17:20] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, it needed "chmod 777 filename.exe". But when I did that, and then did ./filename.exe it show me a lot of errors :P
[17:20] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, ?!?!?
[17:20] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man i am sorry i didn't knew it (about the name) i am reading the solution in order to see if it will work !
[17:20] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, please pastebin the errors and gimme a link :p
[17:20] <RobinJ1995> should've thought of chmod :p
[17:20] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, haha alright
[17:20] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, http://pastebin.com/WsEU3VA2
[17:20] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, only the section about the screen brightness obviously
[17:20] <rodd> Hi folks, I'd love to update my 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts however it isn't showing in the update manager, am I missing something?
[17:21] <RobinJ1995> er
[17:21] <fsgxdroid> which version do you prefere for desktop ubuntu, 32bit(with PAE) or 64bit?
[17:21] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man i know ;) section 3 !
[17:21] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, just checkin ;)
[17:21] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, can you make an archive of your /usr/share/unity-2d/ folder and pass it on to me? there's somethiung it doesn't recognise in your QML files
[17:22] <Church-> fsgxdroid: i'd choose depending on ram amount. and between 32bit or 64bit, leaving PAE out.
[17:22] <razlaz> Hi, someone just asked me to send them my ssh key so I can have access to their server - how do i do this?
[17:22] <razlaz> i've made a key with ssh-keygen
[17:22] <fsgxdroid> Church-: ok, i have 8gigs of ram, so 64 bit is the way to go? not even considering 32bit + PAE?
[17:22] <Artemis3> rodd, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_10.04_LTS_to_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS
[17:22] <voobles> anybody knows how to completely remove policykit-1 from 10.04 desktop and if it is at all possible?
[17:23] <razlaz> do i just send them my ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub file?
[17:23] <Monotoko> razlaz, send them the .pub file in your .ssh folder
[17:23] <Church-> fsgxdroid: indeed. just go for normal 64bit.
[17:23] <RobinJ1995> voobles, wouldn't recommend it. last time i tried i ruined everything xd
[17:23] <razlaz> Monotoko: okay, thanks!
[17:23] <Monotoko> razlaz, no problem :)
[17:23] <RobinJ1995> fsgxdroid, PAE is always slower
[17:23] <acalbaza> quick question... i updated to final beta, do i need to perform another update to get to 12.05 LTS?
[17:23] <fsgxdroid> RobinJ1995: didn't know that, ty
[17:23] <Church-> +even with PAE ram for single app is limited to 2GB
[17:23] <acalbaza> 12.04 rather
[17:23] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, you still there? :p
[17:24] <Monotoko> acalbaza, I came in with that same question :) just run apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:24] <acalbaza> Monotoko: thanks
[17:24] <Monotoko> and it'll fetch the new packages
[17:24] <Monotoko> no problem :)
[17:24] <GriGi> RobinJ1995, Yes, here you go :). http://speedy.sh/tP2Kv/unity-2d.tar.gz
[17:24] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man on the link you send me : i have to add : splash acpi_backlight=vendor or splash acpi_backlight=emachines ???
[17:24] <cap> acalbaza: Go to the update manager, click settings and choose LTS, or make sure it is chosen.
[17:24] <GriGi> RobinJ1995,  but Im on Unity 3D, not 2D, maybe it's because of that? I should be logged into Unity 2D?
[17:25] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man is it a varaible ??? :S (not sure :( )
[17:25] <escott> Church-, 4GB for a single app, which is more than sufficient for most applications out there
[17:25] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, vendor should do the trick
[17:25] <rodd> Artemis3, got an error GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5
[17:25] <RobinJ1995> GriGi, thanks, I'll examine that and hopefully I'll have a fix ready within a week :p
[17:25] <Gary_inNYC> could i run precise pangolin in an older laptop like my thinkpad t40 if I run it with Unity 2d?  I've been using lucid for years and just don't know
[17:25] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man ok ;)
[17:25] <Church-> escott: on 32bit with pae? you get increased total ammount of ram. NOT for single app.
[17:25] <RobinJ1995> probably won't have much time this weekend
[17:26] <escott> Church-, you said the limit is 2GB, but its not its 4GB
[17:26] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, u have to restart for it to take effect as well
[17:26] <razlaz> Monotoko: then when I've sent it and they've done whatever they need to do, I can just ssh into the server without any specified options?
[17:26] <RobinJ1995> escott, 3.2GB
[17:26] <Church-> escott: ok, i'll recheck, as i'm 90% sure it's 2gb
[17:26] <Monotoko> razlaz, did you put a passphrase on the key?
[17:26] <razlaz> Monotoko: I didn't
[17:26] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again."
[17:27] <Artemis3> rodd, try to update again software sources
[17:27] <escott> Church-, 2^32=4096 MB=4GB
[17:27] <Artemis3> rodd, or change mirror
[17:27] <Guest34418> Artemis3: I do see an option to make pidgin default messenger.
[17:27] <Monotoko> razlaz, strongly advise you had but it's okay... your key file acts as the password, just run "ssh <user>@<host>" and it will try your keys with the machine you're logging into
[17:27] <B|tchX> yeahhhh bches
[17:28] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[17:28] <Guest34418> But I do see "Gedit" as default calendar. o_O
[17:28] <rodd> Artemis3, alright, will try thanks
[17:28] <RobinJ1995> escott, 2^32=4294967296
[17:28] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, this will open the file in gedit as root
[17:28] <Guest34418> Hey B|tchX, having fun?
[17:28] <razlaz> Monotoko: awesome, thanks!
[17:28] <Zermann> Hi, how do i try HUD?
[17:28] <Mkaysi> Guest34418: I was wondering that too. Gedit is text editor, not calendar.
[17:28] <escott> RobinJ1995, im not sure what you are trying to say to me. I know what 2^32 is.
[17:28] <Monotoko> Zermann, the HUD is unity
[17:29] <B|tchX> Guest34418, I don't want it yet
[17:29] <Zermann> Monotoko, ok what is the key to use it?
[17:29] <Dan-The-Man> Zermann, alt
[17:29] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man it opened and saved it corectly !
[17:30] <Zermann> Monotoko, tnx!
[17:30] <ojii> I'm getting this error http://ubuntuone.com/0YGbfhrp5NaguPAVZBdvIi when trying to upgrade, do i just try later or should I just uninstall those packages?
[17:31] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man i am rebooting and i"ll be back !
[17:31] <GriGi> Okay, I have to go. Thanks for help RobinJ1995. Maybe I'll come back here, and I will try you program when you will fix it :).
[17:31] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, kk!
[17:31] <danel__> linux mint x chat seems different then the irc for ubuntu
[17:31] <Dan-The-Man> Zermann, hey i answered you lol
[17:31] <upset> Hello y'all. Got the alternative iso, ran defect check, getting an error about my md5 checksum. I'm not familiar with this issue. What can I do?
[17:31] <B|tchX> what danel__ ?
[17:31] <Monotoko> Zermann, indeed... Dan-The-Man gets the credit there :P
[17:31] <Zermann> Dan-The-Man, arg i missed you, thank you too
[17:31] <Trieste> Hi, I'm using 11.04, and now that 12.04 has been released, I'd like to upgrade to it, but I only get an "upgrade to 11.10" button in the update manager, what should I do?
[17:32] <Trieste> upset: redownload, probably
[17:32] <Steevca> I am using ubuntu 12.04 and i can't get the unity launcher to autohide when using some program.
[17:32] <upset> Trieste: Same place? It was actually the ubuntu website....
[17:32] <Monotoko> Trieste, you will have to do an upgrade to 11.10 then to 12.04...
[17:32] <Steevca> I am using unity-2d
[17:32] <Monotoko> a clean install would probably be easiest
[17:32] <Trieste> upset: or check the md5 checksum of the iso and burn it again
[17:32] <cargo23> In 'Terminal' I need to use the F10 key for htop.  However, that brings up a menu instead of being sent to htop.  I go to Edit -> Keyboard shortcuts, and it has a checkbox to Enable "Menu Shortcut Keys (F10 by default)".   I uncheck the box, but F10 still opens the menu.  What to do?
[17:32] <upset> Trieste: You should back up for files and do a clean install.
[17:33] <Trieste> Monotoko: hrm, I was told I could update straight to 12.04
[17:33] <Dan-The-Man> Monotoko, Zermann, haha
[17:33] <upset> Upset: Or? Isn't that what I just did?
[17:33] <danel__> yes ctrl alt +f10 brings me to a terminal prompt
[17:33] <Monotoko> Trieste, only if you have 10.04... you can then do the LTS upgrade
[17:33] <danel__> what is the problem that a clean install is needed?
[17:33] <Monotoko> not with non-LTS versions
[17:33] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man didn't work :(
[17:33] <danel__> can you copy and paste your files to an external drive?
[17:33] <upset> Upset: I don't know how to check the md5 checksum before I write it to the usb drive.
[17:34] <Dr_willis> !md5sum
[17:34] <upset> Dr_Willis ubottu: wonderful
[17:34] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, sorry man, thats all i got
[17:34] <openvoid_> lts to lts update will be available when .1 is out
[17:34] <intrader> I have not been able to find out where does tomboy store files in 11.10. In 10.10 I could find a folder .tomboy (hidden)
[17:34] <Trieste> Monotoko: oh dammit, I did say I was using 10.04 (accidentally), so that would explain it
[17:34] <Steevca> Anyone?
[17:34] <rymate1234> hey
[17:34] <pawan_tejwani> Is there any other source to download ubuntu 12.04 LTS other than ubuntu.com ? It's not getting downloaded ... :(
[17:34] <Trieste> pawan_tejwani: torrents
[17:34] <markss> Today two of my Ubuntu 10.04/lucid machines now give an error on apt-get update saying "GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Has something changed?
[17:34] <Dan-The-Man> pawan_tejwani, torrent
[17:35] <Dr_willis> pawan_tejwani,  best to use the torrents at this time
[17:35] <Monotoko> Trieste, that makes sense :) best to do a clean install
[17:35] <kuanox> have a problem with ubuntu 12, can update my 11.10 to 12  with skype =/
[17:35] <Trieste> Monotoko: so a clean install (I have a separate /home) is best, you say?
[17:35] <Trieste> Monotoko: alright :)
[17:35] <dimitris> Dan-The-Man it must be a kernel bug because it did the same also on backtrack !    anyway ! honestly thank you  for your time !
[17:35] <danel__> can or can't update 11.10 to 12 with skype
[17:35] <danel__> be more clear
[17:35] <danel__> you mean you can upgrade but skype is now uninstalled?
[17:35] <rymate1234> pawan_tejwani, use the torrent ;)
[17:35] <danel__> I didn't know 12 was anywhere past beta
[17:35] <pankaj> i cant download ubuntu 12.04.. what the heck is going on?
[17:35] <kuanox> cant
[17:36] <danel__> easiest thing re install skype
[17:36] <rymate1234> ok
[17:36] <danel__> oh you can't upgrade?
[17:36] <daadaa> anyone can help with installing fakeraid (raid 0) in 12.04? ubiquity won't install grub
[17:36] <danel__> well is 12 a full release yet?
[17:36] <Dan-The-Man> dimitris, yea anytime
[17:36] <pankaj> The requested URL /ubuntureleases//precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server.
[17:36] <Dan-The-Man> danel__, yes
[17:36] <cousin_luigi> markss: Same here, it's a disgrace.
[17:36] <danel__> oh indeed didn't know 12 was a full release
[17:36] <Monotoko> pawan_tejwani, here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[17:36] <markss> cousin_luigi: Did something break on the servers then?
[17:36] <Monotoko> release was today... the Ubuntu servers will be being hammered
[17:36] <upset> Dr_Willis: Gack! Where is  Precise's checksum?
[17:37] <dimitris> Does anyone have some sugestions about too dark screen on laptop ???
[17:37] <danel__> usually when an upgrade distro comes out past beta mode a message pops up on my screen asking if I'd like to fully upgrade at this point
[17:37] <pawan_tejwani> Monotoko: Hey thanks for that :)
[17:37] <cousin_luigi> markss: Dunno, I'm back on my alternate installation.
[17:37] <Skaag> 12.04 is being released today?
[17:37] <markss> cousin_luigi: (or maybe the servers are just so overloaded they aren't communicating with my systems correctly maybe)
[17:37] <danel__> brb
[17:37] <acalbaza> wonders if my eclipse context menu problem is fixed in LTS.
[17:37] <upset> Monotoko: Download was pretty fast earlier, even though the front page was down
[17:37] <reaper> Just upgraded a Ubuntu to 12.04. Getting a "BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5" when I update.
[17:37] <cousin_luigi> markss: they are indeed overloaded and slow, but signatures shouldn't fail
[17:37] <danel__> too dark of a screen depending on your type of lap top probably a button to raise screen brightness is available
[17:37] <Steevca> Seroiously,anyone?
[17:37] <Steevca> I need help wtih this. xD
[17:37] <STOP_HIGHLIGHTIN> :P
[17:37] <Monotoko> upset, I'm trying to download some stuff from the repo... the UK servers aren't doing anything very quickly :)
[17:37] <Dr_willis> upset,  no idea really. some file  has them all.. i use torrents so they normally check/verify the iso anyway
[17:37] <Skaag> The ubuntu servers are failing under the load. I suggest all you upgrades wait a bit. Maybe tomorrow.
[17:37] <pankaj> guys why cant i download this shT?
[17:38] <herrtodd> my upgrade install has crapped out during the download of dropbox (lots of other packages have already upgraded.) it's been sitting at 53% for 15 minutes. How should I proceed? From the terminal: http://pastebin.com/qPaapnA9
[17:38] <Dr_willis> pankaj,  server overload....
[17:38] <danel__> like with an old t.v., you can raise the screen brightness by pressing up on what for a t.v. was called picture
[17:38] <danel__> server over load?
[17:38] <danel__> what is the error
[17:38] <herrtodd> ctrl-c seems like a very scary solution.
[17:38] <dimitris> danel__ no i am not that noob :P !!! there must be something else :S
[17:38] <upset> Dr_Willis: Who is they? The original seeder?
[17:38] <Monotoko> pankaj, use the torrents: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[17:38] <pankaj> Dr_willis,  what OMG
[17:38] <Dr_willis> upset,  theres some md5 file at the download site that has them all.
[17:38] <reaper> Change your repos to one in Sweden or someplace if you cant dl.
[17:39] <Dr_willis> pankaj,  what do you expect when 10000's of people are trying to download  from the same server. :)
[17:39] <openvoid_> !checksum
[17:39] <Dr_willis> pankaj,  happend every new release.
[17:39] <Jen> I'm just uploading ^_^
[17:39] <danel__> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/display-dimscreen.html
[17:39] <upset> Dr_Willis: Well, got a recommended torrent?
[17:39] <bencc> is it possible to preview open applications in the launcher similar to how it works in win7?
[17:39] <Dr_willis> !torrent
[17:39] <Dan-The-Man> while its bad, its also kind of awesome that the servers are overloaded :D
[17:39] <upset> openvoid_: Yo, I looked at that
[17:39] <danel__> click the icon at the very right of the panel and select system settings
[17:39] <john> If I have been running 12.04 Beta and installing upgrades regularly do I still need to "upgrade" to 12.04
[17:39] <danel__> in the hardware section, click power management
[17:39] <Dr_willis> someone has a url to the torrent i imagine. ;)
[17:39] <Dan-The-Man> ubuntu FTW!
[17:39] <upset> Dr_willis: I know what torrents are, dude.
[17:39] <pankaj> Dr_willis, why cant they upload on multiple servers?
[17:40] <Dr_willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[17:40] <danel__> don't know the answer is there an option to upgrade?
[17:40] <danel__> a beta is not a full release
[17:40] <Dr_willis> pankaj,  they do and the servers are all getting overloaded.
[17:40] <Monotoko> it is a full release
[17:40] <danel__> any to change screen bright ness
[17:40] <danel__> oh so you don't have the beta installed but the full release?
[17:40] <pankaj> Dr_willis, how many server do they have?
[17:40] <dimitris> danel full release
[17:40] <upset> Yay, I found the official one
[17:41] <danel__> anyway in power management you can adjust the brightness slider
[17:41] <Dr_willis> if you update/upgrade the beta today or recently - you should have the same setup as the released version
[17:41] <Bearnik> hi all
[17:41] <Monotoko> danel__, I just ran a quick dist-upgrade earlier
[17:41] <upset> Bearnik: Howdy
[17:41] <danel__> at least with the gnome interface you could but the interface for unity compiz plug in isn't too different
[17:41] <Dr_willis> md5 sum files are also at http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[17:41] <danel__> ok you ran a quick dist upgrade?
[17:41] <danel__> and errors with skype?
[17:41] <danel__> try uninstalling skype
[17:41] <dimitris> danel__ and i have check out the power options and all settings from the menus
[17:41] <shazbotm1nasty> Hello. I'm looking for a distro to use as the OS for iCafe machines that are going to be in the waiting rooms in my mechanic shops
[17:41] <pankaj> Dr_willis, i am using 10.04 so i cant upgrade :(
[17:41] <danel__> ok does this not work for you?
[17:41] <ki4ro> Dr_willis: Thanks.  That's what I suspected
[17:41] <newtoarch> If I want to set up dm-crypt LUKS, is it possible to encrypt the swap using the alternate installer and still have the ability to sleep/hibernate?
[17:41] <shazbotm1nasty> I've tried ubuntu, slax, chromeOs (couldn't get it to work)
[17:41] <danel__> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/display-dimscreen.html
[17:42] <kuanox> this is the problem with me / error sithentication some packages skype-bin:i386 and skype:i386, but i have x64 bit
[17:42] <Monotoko> pankaj, why can't you upgrade?
[17:42] <shazbotm1nasty> I was hoping for something that is easily "freezable"
[17:42] <tec-joc> Hi ther
[17:42] <shazbotm1nasty> anyone know of some weird ubuntu offshoot that would work?
[17:42] <danel__> ok i386 is not the 64 bit versions
[17:42] <intrader> I have not been able to find out where does tomboy store files in 11.10. In 10.10 I could find a folder .tomboy (hidden)
[17:42] <reaper> Why do I have a bad signature after upgrading to 12.04. See it when I do a "apt-get update" etc
[17:42] <dragly2> Is suspending during an upgrade to 12.04 a bad idea?
[17:42] <upset> Dr_willis: Ooh, great. That's where they are.
[17:42] <Dr_willis> pankaj,   I thought you could do a LTS to LTS upgrade.. but i rarely upgrade. i do clean installs..
[17:42] <pankaj> Monotoko, there is no such option of upgradation  .. there is ony one update option
[17:43] <reaper> GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:43] <cousin_luigi> same for everyone
[17:43] <Flannel> dragly2: during the download portion -- doesn't matter, during the actual installation portion -- I wouldnt try it.
[17:43] <tec-joc> How can I do for obtain ubuntu 11.10 LTS servers?
[17:43] <Monotoko> pankaj, you should be able to do the upgrade... it just hasn't reached your mirror yet
[17:43] <cousin_luigi> precise pangoling is a gigantic fail so far
[17:43] <eutheria> welcome to server download overload!
[17:43] <reaper> cousin_luigi have the same signature error?
[17:43] <naerok|out> hello can someone provide the md5sum for 64bit 12.04 iso file?
[17:43] <Pici> pankaj: you'll need to use do-release-upgrade -d to upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04.
[17:43] <dragly2> Flannel: Thanks. I guess I'll try to disable suspend on laptop lid close before I pack down my laptop then.
[17:43] <Monotoko> Pici got it! I was looking for that command :)
[17:44] <Dr_willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS <--- the md5sum file
[17:44] <Bearnik> yeahoo, I got 38Kb/sec now download from official XD
[17:44] <upset> Dr_willis: Oh, well now I feel like an idiot.  Happened this morning.
[17:44] <cousin_luigi> reaper: yes
[17:44] <newtoarch> If I want to set up dm-crypt LUKS, is it possible to encrypt the swap using the alternate installer and still have the ability to sleep/hibernate?
[17:44] <Dr_willis> upset,  those verify each file.. not the iso. i belive.
[17:44] <markss> newtoarch: yes
[17:44] <dimitris> danel__ i have already try them
[17:44] <pankaj> Pici, is it ok to upgrade.. means os wont break.. ?
[17:44] <rodd> reaper, getting the same error here
[17:44] <Dr_willis> upset,  i thought the cd had some verify option. :)
[17:44] <upset> Dr_willis: Oh. Okay. Well, at least I found it online.
[17:44] <alien64> screw the upgrade think ill wait
[17:44] <danel__> ok I think this is what you were looking for
[17:44] <Pici> pankaj: there is always a risk of breakage. You should make sure you have backups before doing any upgrades.
[17:44] <WoosterB2> I'm @ "Who are you?" in the installer and no matter what I enter or do I cannot get the 'Continue" button to light up \ activate anything.  Using either mouse or keyboard.
[17:44] <danel__> http://parijatmishra.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/ubuntu-bad-signature-problems-prevent-apt-get-update-from-working/
[17:44] <Bearnik> after an hour, hopefully , I will try to install it om my vm
[17:45] <markss> newtoarch: I don't know if the alt installer will set that up for you automatically, but you can do it. There are internet guides to help get it all encrypted
[17:45] <upset> Dr_willis: It does, that's why I'm here in the first place
[17:45] <bobweaver> is it true that nothing has been updated sense 2012-Apr-25 12:07:54  on amd64 iso
[17:45] <danel__> ubuntu bad signature problems prevent apt-get update from working
[17:45] <pankaj> Pici, no i dont want to take risk
[17:45] <danel__> sudo apt-get update
[17:45] <newtoarch> markss: Because I did that on vbox, and now I have no option to suspend/hibernate.
[17:45] <TheBigRedOne> why is the 64bit image called AMD64? Does it work with Intel CPUs?
[17:45] <upset> Dr_willis: Oh, but only the alternative ones
[17:45] <danel__> w: a error occurred during the signature verification
[17:45] <tec-joc> I  need ubuntu 11.10 server, but on the web site not there
[17:45] <upset> Dr_willis: I don't think the others check
[17:45] <ogra_> TheBigRedOne, yes
[17:45] <newtoarch> markss: Oh I see I think I will have to follow the guides then.
[17:45] <Monotoko> TheBigRedOne, yes it works with intel
[17:45] <dragly2> Where is the setting to disable suspend when closing laptop lid in Ubuntu 11.10 -- I can't find it
[17:45] <Dr_willis> TheBigRedOne,  historical reasons... it does work on intel
[17:45] <TheBigRedOne> Thanks all :)
[17:45] <rodd> I have tried apt-everything and still am getting the error msg
[17:45] <markss> TheBigRedOne: amd64 will work on 64-bit intel cpus yes
[17:45] <danel__> the repository is not updated and the previous uinex files will be used gpg error etc. etc.etc.
[17:45] <fsgxdroid> TheBigRedOne: yes, it will, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[17:45] <danel__> well let's take it slowly
[17:46] <danel__> now try this
[17:46] <bobweaver> or is this behind ? http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/12.04/
[17:46] <danel__> log in as super user
[17:46] <danel__> sudo su
[17:46] <danel__> now type
[17:46] <FloodBot1> danel__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <Dr_willis> and normally you dont want to use 'sudo su'
[17:46] <danel__> floodbot 1 huh? didn't know I was flooding
[17:46] <Dr_willis> ;)
[17:46] <colon_D> bazhang: FYI, I found the culprit here: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release and http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts  -- the LTS file hasn't been updated yet to show precise
[17:46] <danel__> don't use sudo su?
[17:46] <danel__> what is wrong with being root?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> use sudo -i
[17:47] <upset> danel__: It is better to write a longer set of instructions or pastebin it
[17:47] <bobweaver> Dr_willis, +1 with sudo -i
[17:47] <Dr_willis> sudo su - can cause issues.
[17:47] <rodd> such as?
[17:47] <Dr_willis> plus its redundant
[17:47] <danel__> sudo -i doesn't cause issues?
[17:47] <dforthman> Hi. I installed 12.04 and whenever I use my PCI-E graphics card, I get a flashing screen. It works fine on the built-in graphics adapter. PCI-E card is EVGA GTX 550 Ti.
[17:47] <danel__> weird I've been using sudo su for years
[17:47] <upset> danel__: It is flooding if you post without being concise
[17:47] <bobweaver> man sudo too find out what the difference is
[17:47] <upset> danel__ really? Ew.
[17:47] <danel__> anyway back to the problem of the bad signature when upgrading
[17:47] <pankaj> i am just curious. i just want know how can i check the number of hits on the sites . means how many people are downloading it right now?
[17:47] <rodd> tldr;
[17:47] <WoosterB2> I should add that I can go back to the previous installer step and then proceed again to "Who are you?"  Machine isn't hung etc.  Button just refuses to work.  Seems to be the only problem.  Am I alone in experiencing this?
[17:47] <L3top> sudo su is not desirable. It does not carry over several env variables, as well as several other behaviors which CAN cause problems. sudo -i or -s is a better idea in general.
[17:47] <Dr_willis> rodd,  theres some site you can find if you google for 'root shell ubuntu the right way' that gives details
[17:47] <Bearnik> @ tec-joc : http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[17:47] <danel__> hard to post and be concise with so much CONVERSATION IN THE ROOM!
[17:48] <danel__> Just give me a second I haven't finished what I'm saying
[17:48] <upset> danel__: Hard to address someone when you don't address theme
[17:48] <rodd> danel__, type everything in a sentenc
[17:48] <upset> *them
[17:48] <tec-joc> Bearnik: thanks
[17:48] <Monotoko> danel__, it's release day... just put it in a pastebin
[17:48] <danel__> ok
[17:48] <Bearnik> tec-joc: np :) cheerz
[17:48] <L3top> The less concise you are the more conversation is in the room. That is the point of not breaking up your thoughts over several lines.
[17:48] <ogra_> danel__, sudo su preserves your environment, so if you run something using caches it will write as root into your users .cache etc etc ... sudo -i fires upa fresh shell with environment of the root user
[17:49] <Monotoko> especially today of all days
[17:49] <upset> danel__: Look man, this is a support channel. People grab a smart buddy and talk to them extensively about a problem. We're not all reading everyone else's conversation
[17:49] <ghabit> one more question - is there some difference between ubuntu updated to 12.04 and fresh install of 12.04?
[17:49] <reaper> markss cousin_luigi Good to know. Not like I trust the Ubuntu repos with all the blobs in the kernel, just feels better know I'm not the only one get boned.
[17:49] <danel__> ogra!: indeed I rarely write to the cache when in sudo su mode
[17:49] <ntadej_> Hi, anybody having problems with software-properties-kde and apport together with python-sip?
[17:49] <kuanox> hehehehehhe start the update to 12.04 =]
[17:49] <Monotoko> ghabit, not at the core... it's a bit of an open ended question
[17:49] <danel__> ogra: didn't realize this, so sudo -i is better?
[17:49] <dforthman> Hi. I installed 12.04 and whenever I use my PCI-E graphics card, I get a flashing purple screen. I am able to boot in to 12.04 with no problems using the onboard graphics. PCI-E card is EVGA GTX 550 Ti. Anyone else having this issue?
[17:50] <ogra_> danel__, right, but someone you suggest sudo su to might run an X app or whatnot under that
[17:50] <ogra_> danel__, yeah, sudo -i is like a fresh login
[17:50] <ogra_> (as root)
[17:50] <danel__> ogra: ok so sudo su if you need to write to the cache, sudo -i to be safe
[17:50] <danel__> ogra: indeed
[17:50] <Monotoko> danel__, no
[17:50] <danel__> ogra_ like this?
[17:50] <herrtodd> re: my earlier dropbox problem, i'm following the instructions here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/175160
[17:51] <Monotoko> danel__, you don't want to write to your own cache as root at all under any circumstances
[17:51] <ogra_> danel__, just suggest sudo -i
[17:51] <pankaj> dforthman, how can one resolve your issue right now?
[17:51] <ghabit> Monotoko, sorry, cannot understand it.
[17:51] <intrader> All, where does tomboy store its files in unity - ubuntu 11.10
[17:51] <Dr_willis> danel__,  i think theres never a need for 'sudo su'
[17:51] <ghabit> Just installed ubuntu - I'm looking for good and easy-to-use DLNA server (for TV connectiong) based on GUI or at least with good front-end. Thanks!
[17:51] <belgianguy> btw when installing libc my install halted
[17:51] <belgianguy> it was only when I expanded details
[17:51] <belgianguy> that I saw it was waiting for input
[17:52] <danel__> Dr_willis: ok well I didn't write the os
[17:52] <dforthman> pankaj, I've tried searching for a resolution, but have not been successful. Are there known issues with nVidia cards in 12.04?
[17:52] <belgianguy> about rsync with cups and mysql etc
[17:52] <belgianguy> not very clear
[17:52] <Monotoko> ghabit, the only differences between upgrading and installing anew is that when you upgrade, everything including your packages is preserved... but it can go wrong because of packages colliding
[17:52] <danel__> Dr_Willis: I'll try and use sudo -l from now on been recommended sudo su by a billion people now is the only reason I use it
[17:52] <moah> congratulations, #ubuntu on 12.04. I bought a new laptop just to install 12.04 on it, and everything works unbelieveably flawlessly. if anyone is here who worked on it, thanks very much.
[17:53] <upset> danel__: Yeah, but it's your responsibility to not throw around sudo su like it's a great idea
[17:53] <markss> moah: Great :)
[17:53] <cousin_luigi> moah: do updates work as well?
[17:53] <SafariMonkey> I would like to ask about installation. Can anyone provide a valid reason why there could not be n option implemented whereby any packages which throw up dialog boxes would be stopped/frozen/ignored and install the next package untill all dialog-less packages have been installed?  Am I unaware of such an option?
[17:53] <danel__> upset: roger then
[17:53] <upset> danel__: Ok
[17:53] <danel__> upset_: like this you write it?
[17:54] <pankaj> dforthman, i dont know that ..may be some other guy will help u out
[17:54] <upset> danel__: Huh?
[17:54] <Dr_willis> danel__,  if a billion peopel are wrong because they have learned a bad habbit.. its still bad...
[17:54] <moah> cousin_luigi: i dont know, i didnt update, its a flawless fresh install.
[17:54] <pankaj> dforthman, i am still waiting for my 12.04 to download
[17:54] <upset> danel__: Blame other distros. Or gentoo users. Let's blame gentoo users.
[17:54] <L3top> danel__: sudo -i not -l. lol upset
[17:54] <Flannel> danel__: That's a lowercase I not a lowercase L
[17:54] <dzocrnanula> is it wise to install amd64 system on laptop with intel p6200 processor?
[17:54] <GirlyGirl> SafariMonkey: That made no sense
[17:55] <intrader> cousin_luigi, when I upgraded to 9.04 to 10.10, I experienced many problems - I had to install.
[17:55] <dforthman> pankaj, Good luck to you. I hope your installation goes flawlessly :D
[17:55] <cousin_luigi> moah: could you try an update?
[17:55] <danel__> Dr_willis: indeed, look, I write some c and c++ code, not constantly full time. For me addressing the kernel, and not being a normal user, would in any situation I need to use sudo su instead of sudo -i or do you never ever want to write directly to the cache in terminal prompt mode?
[17:55] <Monotoko> dzocrnanula, AMD64 is the naming standard for 64bit - it's historical
[17:55] <Monotoko> it will work on any 64 bit processor
[17:55] <wylde> !backup ........just sayin' :)
[17:55] <SafariMonkey> GirlyGirl, I mean just to put dialogs aside in *update (sorry) and continue updating.
[17:55] <upset> ubottu: But you ARE intelligent
[17:56] <SafariMonkey> I'm not a great writer
[17:56] <upset> ubottu: I love you, ubottu
[17:56] <ogra_> danel__, the cache was only an example ... if you fire up thunderbird your mildir would be owned by root after you close TB
[17:56] <upset> So cold ;_;
[17:56] <danel__> Anyway room, I got to be out: here is a pastebin of the most likely solution to the bad signature at apt-get update or apt-get upgrade when it fails: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/947812/
[17:56] <danel__> ogra:ok
[17:56] <danel__> anyway once again:
[17:56] <danel__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/947812/
[17:56] <danel__> later
[17:56] <FloodBot1> danel__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:56] <dzocrnanula> Monotoko: and ubuntu 64 is good as 386?
[17:56] <upset> lol
[17:57] <dk-ta> Transmission n'arrête pas de me signaler des parties corrompues.... j'espère que je ne les seede pas....?
[17:57] <Monotoko> dzocrnanula, in terms of stability? Yeah it's been mainline for years
[17:57] <Fat-Thing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/947814/ <---- can someone explain why i got this FOUND upon scanning rkhunter? i just don't understand what it means :'(
[17:57] <upset> danel__: Again, you are not talking to the room. You ask your question, someone grabs you, and you talk to them. We will not all work to solve your issue, only one or two volunteer to help
[17:57] <wylde> !fr | dk-ta
[17:57] <dforthman> Hi. I installed 12.04 (64-bit) and whenever I use my PCI-E graphics card, I get a flashing purple screen. I am able to boot in to 12.04 with no problems using the onboard graphics. PCI-E card is EVGA GTX 550 Ti. Anyone else having this issue?
[17:57] <dzocrnanula> Monotoko: Yes, in terms of stability. Than you.
[17:57] <convict> I just installed ubuntu last night, woke up this morning and rebooted. At boot it gets a message 'error: couldn't load file'. Dont really know what file it's talking about. No kernel was upgraded from what I can see unless ubuntu doesn't keep old kernels in grub, already ran fsck on boot partition everything looks fine
[17:58] <ogra_> upset, i think he is gone
[17:58] <upset> ogra_: Feh, okay.
[17:58] <convict> unless it's a problem with LVM?
[17:58] <SafariMonkey> does anyone here know what I mean?
[17:58] <Monotoko> Fat-Thing, don't worry about that... it's just updating it's records because those hidden files weren't there last time
[17:58] <fsgxdroid> i have SSD and i'm planning 12.04 install, should i go with brtfs or ext4?
[17:58] <Monotoko> as long as no rootkits were found you're okay :)
[17:59] <intrader> All, where does tomboy store its files in unity - ubuntu 11.10. I need to restore my tomboy notes from backup.
[18:00] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, i think i do, its not possible to cache all dislogs and ask the questions in the end because soemtimes a package needs to be configured before another one gets installed
[18:00] <ki4ro> is there a separate channel here for 12.04 upgrade?
[18:00] <stefg> Fat-Thing: everything alright... no need to worry. the warnings have plausible causes...
[18:00] <Monotoko> ki4ro, no sorry... what's the problem though and we'll give it a shot :P
[18:00] <convict> ideas anyone?
[18:01] <samster34> hi, my launcher bar thingy in ubuntu 12.04 suddenly turned bright purple, I have no clue why :/
[18:01] <intrader> where does tomboy store its files in unity - ubuntu 11.10. I need to restore my tomboy notes from backup. In the backup I find a .tomboy folder with all the notes and subfolders
[18:01] <Monotoko> convict, can you boot into single user mode? (Recovery)
[18:01] <nitzs> samster34: because you changed the wallpaper?
[18:01] <nosbor> the servers must be getting a hammering, i've just had a upgrade install to 12.04 fail for the 3rd time !
[18:01] <convict> Monotoko, nope
[18:01] <upset> convict: Where are you seeing this?
[18:01] <BadCodSmell> When installing ubuntu in expert mode, how do I partition? As in something like cfdisk? IT wont let me do anything to the partitions that it auto generates or that are already there
[18:01] <convict> upset, after I select the kernel in grub. in your fancy bootloader :P
[18:01] <Monotoko> convict, sounds like grub has borked
[18:01] <rodd> guess today isnt the best day to upgrade ubuntu
[18:02] <ki4ro> Monotoko: No problem just wondering if I have kept up with my upgrades under Beta do I need to upgrade to the new 12.04
[18:02] <Monotoko> you need a live CD and then in the terminal do a "sudo grub-install"
[18:02] <nitzs> BadCodSmell: you'll need to write the partition table after you make changes.
[18:02] <amanATdesk> Hi
[18:02] <upset> convict: I agree with Monotoko. Grab the alternative iso, put it on a usb, and run checks
[18:02] <nitzs> and then format it as ext4
[18:02] <Monotoko> ki4ro, just a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should do the trick
[18:02] <upset> convict: I think that's the easiest way to figure it out
[18:03] <ki4ro> Monotoko: thanks!
[18:03] <BadCodSmell> nitzs: I don't have thoise options, I just have weirdness such as guided partition that insists on using all of the space
[18:03] <Monotoko> ki4ro, no problem... it might be best to hold off for tonight though, the servers are getting hammered
[18:03] <ManuelSantana> Hello
[18:03] <upset> Hello!
[18:03] <B|tchX> And they're off!
[18:03] <pankaj> mods plz include this link http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/12.04/  as well into the topic.
[18:03] <amanATdesk> I'm upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 and it's going insanely slowly - transfer rates of 52.7 kB/s - at the moment I'm still "getting new packages", is it too late to cancel? would I be better off waiting a few hours and trying again once the initial rush is over?
[18:04] <fsgxdroid> btrfs or ext4 - which one you would choose for SSD drive in 12.04 installation?
[18:04] <samster34> I don't think it's the wallpaper.... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21007284/purple.png
[18:04] <ManuelSantana> upset, is this the official ubuntu irc channel?
[18:04] <upset> amanATdesk: Dude, just wait until tonight or tomorrow
[18:04] <BadCodSmell> ah dont worry I figured it out, the interface just isnt very intuitive compared to traditional tools such as windows fdisk
[18:04] <intrader> I used tomboy notes heavily in 10.10. Now I need to know where does tomboy store its files in unity - ubuntu 11.10. I need to restore my tomboy notes from backup. In the backup I find a .tomboy folder with all the notes and subfolders
[18:04] <upset> ManuelSantana: Yep
[18:04] <Monotoko> amanATdesk, if it's just getting the packages it isn't too late to cancel
[18:04] <viecorn> hai hai
[18:04] <krababbel> amanATdesk: cancel it, no problem during download
[18:04] <upset> intrader: Then you should be good, right?
[18:05] <Monotoko> viecorn, hey
[18:05]  * B|tchX backing up hard drive in case she gets too happy
[18:05] <ManuelSantana> is it on freenode network or is it standalone network from ubuntu?
[18:05] <pankaj> amanATdesk, haan wait
[18:05] <Zermann> Hi, where can i fill a bug?
[18:05] <L3top> amanATdesk: If it takes a long time, or you wait a long time... what exactly is the difference? The ability to reboot?
[18:05] <ManuelSantana> is it on freenode network or is it standalone network from ubuntu? upset
[18:05] <amanATdesk> hmm, I think it heard you guys - the transfer rate's shot up to 108 kB/s
[18:05] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, thanks for the reply. I am just frustrated because it stopped on a dialog near the start and I had been expecting it to be finished when I got back. Nope, many hours left. :/  I wonder if dependent packages could be stalled also? not perfect, but it would mean something would be done by the time I got back.
[18:05] <Monotoko> ManuelSantana, we're in freenode
[18:05] <nitzs> BadCodSmell: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[18:05] <upset> intrader: It should be in the same place. If you don't know where, just write some new notes and look for the file it creates so you can replace it
[18:05] <samster34> anyone have a clue why my launcher bar would turn purple? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21007284/purple.png
[18:06] <upset> samster34: For fun
[18:06] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, you could file a whishlist bug on launchpad ... not sure thats solvable easily though
[18:06] <WoosterB2> I don't know why it would, but I quite like it
[18:06] <samster34> upset: I'm amused. it can stop now though :/
[18:06] <upset> samster34: Woah, that is extremely weird
[18:06] <amanATdesk> L3top, it's taking an inordinately long time to download the software, so I can't see it installing before the night is out. I upgraded another Ubuntu to 12.04 beta, two days ago, and that only took 2hrs
[18:06] <upset> samster34: One of those unity tweaking tools can do the trick
[18:06] <Monotoko> samster34, MyUnity should be able to fix it (I think)
[18:07] <samster34> upset: it's running in a VM in virtualbox, could it be a video driver thingy...?
[18:07] <amanATdesk> I'm just looking to get back to using this machine again
[18:07] <h2p> Has anyone here ever done stuff with VOIP?  I am a computer science student looking for an internship, and got contacted by a company that says they are a VOIP company that makes configurations for phones, uses spreadsheets and visio to make designs, and talks to customers sets up phone systems forthem. Is this a good internship for a CS student or is it a waste of time?
[18:07] <upset> samster34: Nah, probably not
[18:07] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, not easily, but it would really improve update experience. Would you agree, or is it too minor?
[18:07] <L3top> amanATdesk: It was released a few hours ago. you can expect some high volume... and why cant you use your machine while it is upgrading?
[18:07] <upset> samster34: But it's not a big detail, and in a VM you shouldn't be surprised
[18:07] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, i surely would agree
[18:08] <samster34> Monotoko: thanks I'll check that out
[18:08] <pankaj> h2p, lol
[18:08] <Hieberrr> Is there any way to permanently change the Unity launcher colour? Every time I change it with MyUnity, it never takes and changes colour by itself to match my wallpaper.
[18:08] <amanATdesk> L3top, I'm trying to give it my full bandwidth, not using the internet heavily at all.
[18:08] <upset> Hieberrr: Sounds like a bug. Google it, see if it's happening to anyone else
[18:08] <L3top> amanATdesk: you are not the choke. The rest of the world trying to get the same thing would be the load.
[18:09] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, now, as I don't reallly know aboyt bug reporting on here (some reason) could you direct me to the appropriate place for such things as this?
[18:09] <upset> Hieberrr: Also contribute to the bug report or create one if it doesn't exist
[18:09] <Monotoko> amanATdesk, it's not your bandwidth... it's the fact the servers are getting hammered
[18:09] <SafariMonkey> *about
[18:09] <Hieberrr> thanks guys, ill send a report now
[18:09] <L3top> amanATdesk: Use the internet as much as you want, you are not likely to impact the dl speed.
[18:09] <Monotoko> amanATdesk, it will stabilise by tomorrow
[18:09] <limpc> anyone here use sshfs?
[18:09] <limpc> having trouble establishing an sshfs map after upgrading to ubuntu 12.04
[18:09] <limpc> shows owner as ??? ???
[18:10] <limpc> i am using uid=1000,gid=1000 (which are correct)
[18:10] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, use "ubuntu-bug" from a terminal
[18:10] <satch5150> i'm fairly certain I'm having hardware issues but not sure where to ask this question so here goes - My computer seems to lock up with my soundcard in it, which is an x-fi elite pro pci (not pcie) card, my mobo is an asus sabertooth with uefi bios and my cpu is an zambezi am3+ ..... im using xubuntu 12.04 bets 2 (ok, yea, I didnt think of it before asking but that could be the problem), but assuming the beta is not the prob, what could
[18:10] <satch5150>  it be ?
[18:10] <upset> limpc: Be concise, it is more clear to us that way
[18:10] <RobinJ1995> I know it can take a while to resize a partition, but it's been working for 2 hours now, and I don't see any progress yet
[18:10] <L3top> Its a few hours... and again... if you are willing to wait till tomorrow, what does the amount of time it takes matter?
[18:10] <amanATdesk> L3top, Monotoko - I don't think I explained myself too clearly, I wanted to let it download at fullspeed - but it isn't, which is why I'm here ...
[18:10] <samster34> Monotoko: thanks, that worked.
[18:10] <RobinJ1995> Normal?
[18:10] <Monotoko> limpc, you might be best asking in #ubuntu-server
[18:10] <upset> satch5150: Go to the xubuntu channel
[18:10] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, other?
[18:10] <satch5150> ook, thanks
[18:10] <L3top> amanATdesk: again... it was released a few hours ago. There is likely to be a heavy strain on the servers because everyone wants it now.
[18:11] <Monotoko> amanATdesk, you explained yourself okay... the fact is that the ubuntu servers will only give you a speed of 50kb or less at the moment
[18:11] <upset> satch5150: I don't even think canonical maintains their channel anymore
[18:11] <amanATdesk> Anyway, I will cancel and upgrade tomorrow
[18:11] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/
[18:11] <upset> satch5150: They're kind of a separate deal now
[18:11] <SafariMonkey> ogra_, I mean what category
[18:11] <Pici> upset: Canonical doesn't "maintain" any of these channels. This is all volunteer support.
[18:11]  * L3top does not understand "I am so impatient, I have to wait longer" but.. meh.
[18:11] <smulcahy> hi, ubuntu 12.04 tells me my printer is out of toner but windows tells me its fine. So does the printers web interface.
[18:11] <smulcahy> Is this a problem anyone else is having?
[18:11] <satch5150> upset: ok, I will, but as I said, I think its really hardware, im just wondering specifically what though
[18:11] <upset> Pici: Well, yeah. But they set up the bots and own the channel
[18:12] <upset> Pici: Or am I wrong?
[18:12] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, oh, no idea other is probably ok
[18:12] <RobinJ1995> I know it can take a while to resize a partition, but it's been working for 2 hours now, and I don't see any progress yet... Normal?
[18:12] <wylde> SafariMonkey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD <-- there's one way to do it. Sems a bit old but should work.
[18:12] <Pici> upset: No, us volunteers do that.
[18:12] <Hieberrr> I guess the "chameleon" thing isn't really a bug
[18:12] <Hieberrr> but a feature
[18:12] <upset> Pici: Oh, wow. I did not know
[18:12] <wylde> Seems*
[18:12] <Hieberrr> :(
[18:12] <SafariMonkey> it says i need to specify a package
[18:12] <upset> satch5150: Sorry buddy, I am evidentally full of it
[18:12] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, update-manager or even apt
[18:13] <ogra_> SafariMonkey, it will be sorted to the right package by a bug triager, dont worry about it to much
[18:13] <upset> satch5150: You should still go to their channel though. Even if it's a hardware issue, I think they'll be better equipped to help you out
[18:13] <gord_> how do I get an install image of 12.04 onto a USB stick and then install it? Unetbootin - fails to boot with "missing operating system". i don;t have windows or ubuntu already, and no machines at any of our sites have optical drives
[18:13] <upset> satch5150: Specially since we're kind of being flooded in this channel
[18:13] <satch5150> upset: yea, I did, awaiting a response from them :)
[18:13] <upset> gord_: What os are you using?
[18:14] <Jen> BOOBILICIOUS_BOO: sure you want to stick with that nick?
[18:14] <llutz> gord_: "cat 1204.iso >/dev/sdX "  where sdX is your usb-stick
[18:14] <upset> satch5150: I'm sorry. :\ Maybe forums?
[18:14] <gord_> FreeBSD, Debians, etc
[18:14] <openvoid_> RobinJ1995, you can estimate time to move partition by multiplying size of date being moved by about 15mb/sec (typical speed)
[18:14] <BOOBILICIOUS_BOO> Jen, yes
[18:14] <intrader> I used tomboy notes heavily in 10.10.  I need to restore my tomboy notes from a 10.10 backup. In the backup I find a .tomboy folder with all the notes and subfolders
[18:14] <upset> gord_: Tag me
[18:14] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, the point is, it isn't MOVING anything
[18:14] <gord_> llutz: ah ok thanks, haven't tried catting it yet
[18:14] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, just shrinking
[18:14] <upset> gord_: Nvm
[18:15] <llutz> gord_: "dd" also would do
[18:15] <upset> BOOBILICIOUS_BOO: God help us
[18:15] <[Toto]> hello
[18:15] <upset> gord_: I like dd. dd if=blah.iso of=usblocation is a great one
[18:15] <[Toto]> anyone know this error ?
[18:15] <[Toto]> ../include/Network.h:772:26: error: ISO C++ prohíbe la declaración de ‘type name’ sin tipo [-fpermissive]
[18:16] <upset> Toto: Where are you reading this?
[18:16] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, starting to get anxious for my data here.... ntfsresize is taking up 0% of CPU and RAM
[18:16] <[Toto]> well
[18:16] <[Toto]> en my console
[18:16] <[Toto]> gmake error
[18:17] <gord_> llutz: upset: I thought there'd be some instructions somewhere for non-Ubuntu USB-ing, but none exist. I got very confused lol. Many thanks both
[18:17] <CharlieSu> Is it possible to create a Bootable USB disk w/ Ubuntu on it that is compatible with a MacBookPro?  If so could anyone point me to documentation on this?
[18:17] <L3top> What are you trying to compile [Toto]
[18:17] <[Toto]> gnuworld
[18:17] <mystblade9> I remember Wubi being inherently buggy with earlier versions of Ubuntu. Is it a viable option now? Does everything work as it's supposed to, including software and driver installation?
[18:17] <Monotoko> [Toto], why are you using gmake? Just use make
[18:18] <[Toto]> Monotoko,  : same error
[18:18] <[Toto]> make or gmake
[18:18] <upset> [Toto]: Woah. I can't help you. L3top is smart, he probably can, or maybe go to the spanish ubuntu irc
[18:18] <Monotoko> [Toto], what's the rror?
[18:18] <scientes> what happened to release party?
[18:18] <scientes> i thought that was a thing? when was that dropped?
[18:18] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, still there...?
[18:18] <scientes> like when you tried to you #ubuntu+1
[18:18] <upset> scientes: What?
[18:18] <smulcahy> is forcing a purge of all printing related packages worth a shot?
[18:18] <openvoid_> [Toto], sudo apt-get install build-essential, then use make
[18:18] <upset> scientes: So many support requests... there isn't really room for a party except in ubuntu offtopic
[18:18] <Monotoko> scientes, the individual local teams organize those
[18:19] <smulcahy> assuming something has bad state
[18:19] <BOOBILICIOUS_BOO> upset, God is on Vacation, cant help u
[18:19] <[Toto]> openvoid,  : i already installed
[18:19] <upset> lulz
[18:19] <mystblade9> I remember Wubi being inherently buggy with earlier versions of Ubuntu. Is it a viable option now? Does everything work as it's supposed to, including software and driver installation?
[18:19] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, still there...?
[18:19] <syrinx_priest> Anyone know how to Enable the new login sound?  Running 12.04 in a Vbox and it's not there.  I went to add it to startup apps but I'm not sure what the command is.
[18:19] <ogra_> scientes, you mean the channel ?
[18:19] <[Toto]> and all updates
 scientes: So many support requests... there isn't really room for a party except in ubuntu offtopic
[18:19] <upset> BOOBILICIOUS_BOO: Probably at an upgrade party somewhere
[18:19] <openvoid_> yes, RobinJ1995
[18:19] <scientes> ogra_, yeah #ubuntu+1 use to redirect one day before
[18:19] <ogra_> scientes, #ubuntu-release-party has 180+ people in it
[18:20] <L3top> CharlieSu: I believe you can use unetbootin and the mac version of the ubuntu iso (so declared in daily build list)
[18:20] <samster34> the software center crashes all the time for me :/
[18:20] <BOOBILICIOUS_BOO> *dancing*
[18:20] <RobinJ1995> openvoid, it's only shrinking /dev/sda1, not moving any data. nytfsresize is taking up 0% of RAM and CPU :/
[18:20] <ProfessorBacon> my windows 95 install stopped at disk 14: help
[18:20] <samster34> at least, it says it crashed, but doesnt
[18:20] <syrinx_priest> lol
[18:20] <[Toto]> make[1]: *** [libgnuworldcore_la-Channel.lo] Error 1
[18:20] <[Toto]> make[1]: se sale del directorio «/home/gnuworld/gnuworld/src»
[18:20] <[Toto]> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[18:20] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, it's only shrinking /dev/sda1, not moving any data. nytfsresize is taking up 0% of RAM and CPU :/ (why the underscore behind your name?)
[18:21] <syrinx_priest> Could someone whose login sound DOES work copy and past the command from their Startup Application menu?
[18:21] <BOOBILICIOUS_BOO> i am getting 60kbps while downloading it from alternate server :(
[18:21] <yellabs-r2> good day you all
[18:21] <L3top> !es | [Toto]
[18:21] <upset> I'm outtie, gonna go clean install Pangolin like a bosss
[18:22] <yellabs-r2> is there some software with wich i can see the powerconsumption of my pc ?
[18:22] <[Toto]> L3top,  : i m there too
[18:22] <natman> hey, i am running ubuntu 12.04 live, from usb stick - it runs quiet well. when i go for full install to HDD will it be much slower? ( the pc is old'ish, 1,6ghz centrino dual core, 2gb ram, tiny nvidia card )
[18:22] <upset> Thanks for the help the other day, L3top
[18:22] <RylandAlmanza> Hi, I'm trying to make it so the grub menu only shows if I hold shift. I've looked through various answers on google, and nothing has worked. Currently, when I press shift, it says "grub loading" and then boots the os before it shows the menu. Anyone know how to fix this?
[18:22] <upset> Bye
[18:22] <L3top> np upset... see ya
[18:22] <openvoid_> RobinJ1995, dunno if it stalled or not but with your 2 tb hdd it can take really long time, shrinking by half may take up to 6 hours, i think. and its unsafe to cancel, uoy can loss data
[18:23] <L3top> Did you install build-essential yet [Toto]?
[18:23] <TheBigRedOne> meh still cant create Live USBs that work on my laptop...
[18:23] <[Toto]> yes
[18:23] <[Toto]> of course
[18:23] <Monotoko> L3top, he already has it... it's erroring out in the make
[18:23] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, is it normal that the progressbar in gparted just keeps going left and right, in stead of actually indicating a progress?  i'm really getting anxiopus for my data here... and i don"'t have 6 hours >.> the usb drive i'm running it from probably wont survive that long either >.<
[18:23] <Monotoko> [Toto], and you've done the ./configure ?
[18:23] <yellabs-r2> cloning an 500 Gig drive took 8 hours , so do the math
[18:23] <belgianguy> any opinions on the Oracle v Google lawsuit here?
[18:23] <Monotoko> RobinJ, yes that's normal
[18:24] <Monotoko> you'll just have to leave it
[18:24] <L3top> doh... duh.
[18:24] <john38> Hello does the precise 32 bit version support 8GB Ram?
[18:24] <RobinJ1995> john38, just choose x64
[18:24] <[Toto]> yes
[18:24] <Monotoko> belgianguy, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[18:24] <belgianguy> Monotoko: kk
[18:24] <Monotoko> [Toto], and it brought back no errors?
[18:24] <[Toto]> Monotoko, : ./configure  its ok
[18:24] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, the simulation only took half a minute
[18:24] <[Toto]> nope
[18:25] <dforthman> Hi there. I just did a fresh install of 12.04 (64-bit) and I'm having issues getting my GTX 550 ti graphics adapter to work. It worked fine in 10.04. I've tried searching google but I can't find anything relevant. Where should I start?
[18:25] <Monotoko> [Toto], hmmm... I found a topic with the same problem on the undernet forums but it was never answered
[18:25] <RobinJ1995> seriously, ubuntu 12.04 is starting to lok like just another flop for the collection
[18:25] <c3l_> how hard is it to use multiple graphics cards? (I need more screen outputs.) are there any requirements on the graphics cards, or can I pick two arbitrarily? ie. will an ati card work with a nvidia card?
[18:25] <RobinJ1995> c3l_, ati + nvidia = no go
[18:25] <openvoid_> RobinJ1995, never tried with ntfs, but i think tool hve n output of progress. look in io wait on top utillity, if it have value larger than 5 - something is actually happening
[18:25] <RobinJ1995> c3l_, even only ati is a no-go :')
[18:25] <Barack_Obama> some one plz help dforthman .. this is the third time he asked the same question.
[18:25] <[Toto]> i search google and nothing
[18:26] <c3l_> RobinJ1995: so what is required to use several graphics cards?
[18:26] <Monotoko> RobinJ, it's always done that... if you told any version of Linux or Windows to do the same, it'd take just as long
[18:26] <mouth1> hi
[18:27] <mouth1> i wanted to ask who the developer of the ubuntu restricted extras is
[18:27] <convict> Monotoko, boot-repair usually take 4 hours? :P
[18:27] <mouth1> it says "license unknown"
[18:27] <RobinJ1995> 75% coming from ntfsresize, openvoid_. writing 35MB/s, so i'm ok? another 90% comes from flush it says
[18:27] <Monotoko> convict, why are you using boot repair? You should have just gone for "grub-install" and rewrote the MBR
[18:27] <Monotoko> boot repair is the next thing
[18:28] <natman> hey, i am running ubuntu 12.04 live, from usb stick - it runs quiet well. when i go for full install to HDD will it be much slower? ( the pc is old'ish, 1,6ghz centrino dual core, 2gb ram, tiny nvidia card )
[18:28] <Pici> mouth1: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage, it contains nothing, but depends on a number of other packages.
[18:28] <openvoid_> RobinJ1995, its working, just wait until complete, i calculated - about 10 hours per 1 tb
[18:28] <RobinJ1995> openvoid_, thanks =D
[18:28] <Silverfish> natman, it will be faster when installed.
[18:28] <TheBigRedOne> my live USB won't boot, the screen remains black with a white blinking text cursor...
[18:28] <SafariMonkey> hello people! just wondering, does compiz not work on 12.04 default or is there another reason it crashes? I just updated, restarted and got the message that compiz crashed. if I thy to relaunch it it crashes again. :/
[18:29] <dforthman> TheBigRedOne, nVidia card?
[18:29] <TheBigRedOne> no, it is a HP laptop with Intel CPU and integrated intel graphics
[18:29] <natman> TheBigRedOne: Try F6 on boot screen and use nodem (?? cant spell it ) as a boot option
[18:29] <mouth1> hi i wanted to ask who the developer/maintainer of the ubuntu restricted extras package is
[18:29] <mouth1> is this a safe thing to download or should i better install the codecs on my own?
[18:29] <chiluk> natman from what I've found usb sticks give relatively slow transactions per second.  Even less than a hard drive  *(unless you are spending >$3 /gb for your stick)
[18:30] <chiluk> natman, so it should be faster
[18:30] <mouth1> it says "license unknown" in the ubuntu software center
[18:30] <natman> chiluk: cool mom will find out later
[18:30] <natman> :)
[18:30] <TheBigRedOne> natman: ive had this before with 11.10 then i created the USB with a terminal command (very simple) i just don't remember it and cant find it anywhere
[18:30] <Pici> mouth1: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage, it contains nothing, but depends on a number of other packages. It doesn't have a license of its own.
[18:31] <mouth1> ah ok thanks Pici, what did you install?
[18:31] <mouth1> it comes with java and i don't want java
[18:31] <mouth1> :D
[18:31] <natman> TheBigRedOne: Sorry, dont know about that, that boot option solved a simlar issue for me yesterday
[18:31] <Pici> mouth1: Then look at what the package depends on and install those individually.
[18:31] <TheBigRedOne> natman: okay ill try to catch the right moment for F6 what is the option that i need to enter?
[18:32] <mouth1> Pici, i want to play mp3, flash and wmv/avi
[18:32] <mouth1> can you please tell me what i need?
[18:33] <Pici> mouth1: ubuntu-restricted-extras will only install the icedtea plugin, that isn't Oracle's java.