[10:41] <epax> Anyone that speaks swedish?
[10:50] <Tm_T> epax: some of us do in some extent, what do you need?
[10:52] <epax> Actually I need some htlp with translating one sentence.
[10:52] <epax> From swedish to finnish
[11:04] <ASprtrmp> epax: I'm Finnish, but my Swedish is quite poor
[11:08] <UrB> that is the most common situation, so vad är det sats på svenska? me yritämme kääntää :)
[11:08] <ASprtrmp> just paste the sentence here, I guess someone translates it for you
[11:11] <ASprtrmp> yes, the most common situation indeed. again, I though I was at #anotherchannel
[12:53] <epax> Its fixed now. Thnx
[13:01]  * Mikaela reminds about forgotten #ubuntu-fi-en ...
[13:09] <Tm_T> Mikaela: it's in the channel topic (:
[13:10] <Mikaela> :)
[14:09] <Echramath> Onks semmoiselle kanavalle tilaus?


[12:35] <thekurst> hello?
[06:42] <santy> HOLA...
[08:07] <oliver_savage> Can anyone comment, are there easy to use tools for querying a cgi-bin on a public server? I'm trying to find an applications version number and type?
[08:09] <fabbione> oliver_savage: you are asking in the wrong chan really..
[08:09] <fabbione> this is #ubuntu stuff
[08:12] <oliver_savage> okay thanks
[02:19] <spike> anybody here heavily using checkinstall that can comment on its trustiness?
[02:19] <spike> I guess most of you if not all can do deb packaging, but I'm asking anyway
[07:59] <andriijas> how do i change keyboard layout?
[08:09] <spike> andriijas: in console I assume, loadkeys us
[08:13] <andriijas> dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[08:13] <andriijas> =)
[08:15] <spike> oh, that one, sorry :)
[08:15] <andriijas> hehe np
[08:15] <andriijas> how do i enable framebuffer?
[08:19] <spike> andriijas: u need the kernel module and vga option at boot time iirc, but I alwasy use my laptop for work, so I never really needed it
[08:19] <andriijas> hehe
[08:19] <spike> ssh'ing from 1280x1024 is just fine :)
[08:20] <andriijas> =)
[08:20] <spike> talking of res, first time I got a box with a radeon, and it's as shit as it was supposed to be :/
[08:20] <spike> it just doesnt work :(
[08:20] <andriijas> whats the proper line to add to sources.list to install drapper? (its a dev system)
[08:21] <andriijas> want to use lighttpd etc
[08:23] <Pygi> fabbione: ping
[08:25] <allee> andriijas: replace breezy with dapper in sources.list
[08:27] <andriijas> all this main restritec univese multiverse is confusing me
[08:28] <andriijas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto  for example
[08:28] <andriijas> theres main restricted
[08:28] <andriijas> and theres universe multiverse
[08:28] <andriijas> but as i understand it you can add main multiverse universe as well?
[09:14] <andriijas> whats the difference between installing using default ubuntu inistall cd and selecting server install and using ubuntu-server cd ?
[10:08] <ubijtsa2> andriijas: the server CD will not have the desktop stuff, it will have a tailored kernel for server scenarios etc
[10:09] <andriijas> ubijtsa2: but using the default ubuntu cd you can type server
[10:09] <andriijas> and it doesnt install desktop stuff
[10:09] <ubijtsa2> 'server' there is a misnomere
[10:09] <andriijas> okey. thats what i thought =)
[10:09] <ubijtsa2> it should probably say "mini"
[10:10] <andriijas> time to wget the server cd and burn it then!
[10:10] <ubijtsa2> the dedicated server ISO will strip out the desktop stuff to give you more server apps on the CD (if I have understood it right)
[10:13] <andriijas> i tried a nighttly dapper server iso, didnt work :) so im going to install breezy server and apt update
[10:14] <ubijtsa2> dapper flight3 installs okay
[10:15] <andriijas> ubijtsa2: no big difference using breezy and apt upgrade than using flight3 and apt upgrade?
[10:15] <andriijas> or does it leave crap on hardrive?
[10:15] <ubijtsa2> makes little difference
[10:15] <andriijas> what difference?: S
[10:16] <ubijtsa2> but I had an 'interesting experience' with breezy->dapper yesterday
[10:16] <andriijas> really? i just did it in vmware without trouble
[10:16] <ubijtsa2> I finished putting my box together again this morning
[10:16] <andriijas> flight3 != ubuntu server
[10:17] <ubijtsa2> true :)
[10:17] <andriijas> im notusing ubuntu for desktop. only for server=)
[10:17] <andriijas> ruby on rails development
[10:17] <ubijtsa2> I use kubuntu for both
[10:17] <LordHunter317> the sever kernels aren't tailored either.
[10:17] <andriijas> hehe
[10:17] <LordHunter317> they're the exact same kernels you see in APT.
[10:17] <LordHunter317> the only difference is that the installer will kick in an SMP kernel for you.
[10:18] <LordHunter317> and it carries it on the disk, obviously.
[10:18] <ubijtsa2> the final ones should be different though, right. HZ and PREEMPT etc
[10:18] <LordHunter317> no.
[10:18] <LordHunter317> they're identical.
[10:18] <LordHunter317> it literally installs the same package-- there is no linux-image-2.6-server or anything like that.
[10:19] <ubijtsa2> I was under the impression there'd be a 'server' kernel
[10:19] <andriijas> LordHunter317: true
[10:19] <LordHunter317> ubijtsa: why?
[10:19] <ubijtsa2> no moment, not a biggie compiling something more server like
[10:19] <LordHunter317> how?
[10:19] <LordHunter317> the default kernel is perfectrly server like.
[10:19] <andriijas> LordHunter317: so there is NO difference using server install cd or using default cd using server installation?
[10:20] <LordHunter317> andriijas: only in what's on the disk (i.e., packages you can install from it) and maybe in the kernel it'll install for you at bootup.
[10:20] <LordHunter317> it's not like teh apache package on the server disk is different from the one in the repositories.
[10:20] <LordHunter317> it's purely for installation convience.  I wish they'd just release a Debian-like bootstrap cd.
[10:20] <ubijtsa2> on a server you usually don't want too high a HZ and you don't want preempt. to small timeslice and you spend more time in scheduler that doing work
[10:20] <LordHunter317> ubijtsa: no, not true.
[10:20] <ubijtsa2> than, not that
[10:21] <LordHunter317> I/O bound serving, especially highly-parallel (i.e., java) will benefit immensely from both.
[10:21] <andriijas> because I jsut did a clean install via ubuntu default breezy cd and upgraded it to dapper bleeding edge
[10:21] <LordHunter317> as it means less forced kernel interrupts and lower latency.
[10:21] <ubijtsa2> hmm. I better tell IBM they taught me wrong then...
[10:21] <andriijas> and if theres any difference beeing in the server branch i would rather be in that one
[10:21] <LordHunter317> as a rule, you shouldn't be touching kernel parameters at all until you have a performance problem.
[10:21] <andriijas> of course the apache packages are the same
[10:22] <LordHunter317> evne then, recompiling your kernel is usually drastic and not necessary.
[10:22] <ubijtsa2> and I should point out to Linus they can strip some settings out of 2.6.15 and later..
[10:22] <andriijas> but i read about central ssl managment etc
[10:22] <andriijas> so theres maybe other packages in the server dist
[10:22] <LordHunter317> ubijtsa: such as?
[10:22] <ubijtsa2> such as the settings SERVER, WORKSTATION and DESKTOP
[10:23] <ubijtsa2> if it don't matter, why have them
[10:23] <andriijas> LordHunter317: so what should i do, reinstall with server cd or stick with what i got?
[10:23] <LordHunter317> i'd stick with what you have.
[10:23] <LordHunter317> ubijtsa2: because it can matter in some cases.
[10:24] <LordHunter317> and there are other things to tune that make a big difference.
[10:24] <LordHunter317> killing preempt and HZ aren't two of them, however, usually.
[10:24] <LordHunter317> i'll make execptions for things like Oracle, and even postgresql, on the server, as two big cases.
[10:24] <ubijtsa2> high HZ is only needed on a desktop really, to increase apparent responsiveness..
[10:25] <LordHunter317> ubijtsa: high HZ is almost universally good.
[10:25] <andriijas> whats HZ and preempt?
[10:25] <LordHunter317> unless you have some reason to want a short-time slice, i.e., sharing tasks between users.
[10:25] <LordHunter317> on a single-task system, it makes almost no difference, except reducing how often the kernel interrupts.
[10:25] <LordHunter317> which is a good thing for CPU-bound, liekly irrelevant for I/O-bound.
[10:26] <andriijas> semaphore->P();
[10:27] <LordHunter317> almost every distributor these deals tells you not to.
[10:27] <ubijtsa2> worked well in past, will work well in future, and will keep me up2date on the settings in the kernel
[10:27] <LordHunter317> certainly RH doesnt' want me touching my RHEL boxes without cause.
[10:27] <ubijtsa2> ever tried compiling their server kernel?
[10:27] <LordHunter317> yes.
[10:27] <ubijtsa2> no wonder they tell you not to
[10:28] <LordHunter317> well, and it makes their job all the harder.
[10:28] <ubijtsa2> nightmare I tell you :)
[10:28] <ubijtsa2> RH is a pile of poo anyway..  :P
[10:34] <LordHunter317> fustrating, perhaps.
[10:34] <LordHunter317> but I can think of far worse things.
[10:34] <LordHunter317> HP-UX, AIX, Solaris, Tru64.
[10:34] <ubijtsa2> So, we each have favourites and pet hates..
[10:35] <LordHunter317> andriijas: likely.
[10:35] <andriijas> slackware?
[10:35] <andriijas> =D
[10:35] <ubijtsa2> not done much on Tru64 or HP-UX, cut my teeth on Solaris, but worked with AIX for years
[10:35] <andriijas> i dont like RH either. but i dont waste my time flaming it
[10:36] <ubijtsa2> Xenix was interesting.. and SCO was...unusual..
[10:38] <LordHunter317> my biggest grip with RH as of late is the the whole Mono thing.
[10:38] <LordHunter317> especialyl sine as soon as I get this job done, I intend to try Nemerele.


[05:12] <inetpro> good morning everyone
[05:12] <inetpro> second point release update to our LTS release 16.04 is out now
[05:25] <superfly> Good evening inetpro
[06:19] <inetpro> superfly: you found a job yet?
[06:20] <superfly> inetpro: nope. Currently e-mailing back and forth with RedHat to set up a telephonic interview, also was contacted by another company. Will see what happens.
[06:22] <inetpro> really hope you get something soon man
[06:31] <superfly> Me too. The wife is getting antsy.
[06:47] <inetpro> superfly: the time will come, but I guess telling her to be patient won't help
[06:52] <inetpro> superfly: with your set of skills you can land an awesome job and that is what you deserve
[07:14] <chesedo> morning inetpro superfly and all the others
[07:19] <theblazehen> morning all
[08:11] <Kilos> morning inetpro paddatrapper chesedo thatgraemeguy theblazehen unlaudable and others
[08:11] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[08:25] <thatgraemeguy> hallo Oom
[08:39] <inetpro> hi OOM K
[08:40] <paddatrapper> Morning oom Kilos, theblazehen, thatgraemeguy, inetpro
[08:40] <theblazehen> hi paddatrapper, thatgraemeguy, inetpro
[08:43] <chesedo> hallo oom Kilos
[08:44] <chesedo> does anyone have any experience with regard to afriHost's email hosting service?
[10:23] <Kilos> big winds, connection keeps dropping
[10:53] <chesedo> yeah, dineo is passing by
[16:31]  * pavlushka ahoys ZA
[18:30] <superfly> morning chesedo, paddatrapper, thatgraemeguy, theblazehen, Kilos and inetpro
[18:31] <superfly> By the way, I have an interview with RedHat on Tuesday next week.
[18:31] <Kilos> hi superfly
[18:31] <Kilos> good luck with the interview
[18:38] <paddatrapper> Hi superfly. Good luck!
[18:59] <nsnzero> evening all
[19:03] <Kilos> hi nsnzero
[19:04] <nsnzero> hi kilos how are you ?
[19:04] <Kilos> tired and you
[19:07] <nsnzero> looking for qt 5.7
[19:07] <nsnzero> its been a long week kilos - need the weekend to unwind
[19:08] <Kilos> i slept all avy and still tired
[19:08] <Kilos> must be getting old
[19:08] <Kilos> rest the weekend
[19:08] <nsnzero> lol - i feel the same sometimes or most of the time
[19:08] <Kilos> you i mean
[19:09] <Kilos> everyday is weekend for me
[19:11] <nsnzero> dont make me jealous Kilos
[19:11] <nsnzero> everyday feels like monday for me ...
[19:12] <Kilos> hehe
[19:13] <nsnzero> no qt 5.7 for 16.10 yet i will have to get 17.04 .... mmmmh
[19:19] <nsnzero> i wonder if there is a arch type linux built on ubuntu
[19:49] <chesedo> ah great, all the best with it superfly
[19:56] <superfly> hi nsnzero
[19:57] <superfly> thanks chesedo
[19:57] <nsnzero> hi superfly
[19:57] <nsnzero> and chesedo


[00:00] <ali1234> dos2unix or zip then unzip the file
[09:14] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:18] <mattt> morning brobostigon
[09:19] <brobostigon> morning mattt
[10:05] <gebbione> hi all latest ubuntu has introduced a feature that stops the mouse from moving from one monitor to another unless you force it through, do you know where this can be changed or removed from?
[10:20] <dwatkins> sounds like synergy's timeout value for switching systems
[10:20] <dwatkins> you have to push against the edge for 250ms, it's configurable, so I imagine this is too
[11:21] <gebbione> dwatkins, that limit is not forced if you switch quickly, that is run the cursor from one side to the other very fast
[12:38] <dogmatic69> yesterday I installed wine on 12.04 and now my terminal fonts are messed up. I have restarted etc and its still wrong
[12:38] <dogmatic69> anyone know what I can do to fix it?
[13:10] <mattt> beautiful day today
[13:10] <mattt> tho i've had enough of outside
[13:10]  * mattt switches on the rugby
[13:35] <DJones> Who do you want to win mattt
[14:08] <dogmatic69> since installing wine, not only are my fonts screwed. but now I can not cd /path<tab> as it always sticks a space on the end
[14:09] <dogmatic69> so I get 'cd /path '
[14:27] <mattt> DJones: quins!
[14:36] <DJones> Ah, kick & clap then, not Wigan v Saints in the challenge cup
[14:53] <jacobw> afternoonage
[14:57] <gebbione> anyone knows a free vpn service?
[15:09] <brobostigon> what formats should blender accept as imported video?
[15:19]  * MartijnVdS returns home
[15:19] <brobostigon> wb MartijnVdS o/
[15:20]  * MartijnVdS was in London
[15:21] <Nafallo> MartijnVdS: you was?
[15:21] <Nafallo> MartijnVdS: *smacks for not telling*
[15:22]  * SuperEngineer wonders if brobostigon, Nafallo & MartijnVdS are all about to to kiss & hug
[15:22] <SuperEngineer> [has News of the World camera ready
[15:22] <brobostigon> lol
[15:23] <Nafallo> wait sorry what?!
[15:23] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: oh I thought you'd be at a UDS
[15:24] <Nafallo> MartijnVdS: nah. I've left that company :-P
[15:24] <Nafallo> /tweet and for all you peeps that can't keep up with the times... yes, I've left Canonical!
[15:24] <Nafallo> there! stop being behind now :-P
[15:25] <brobostigon> shouldnt blender accept webm, and oggv, as input types, into its vse ?
[15:25] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: I went to see Nerina Pallot in St James' in Piccadilly yesterday and the night before
[15:25] <Nafallo> MartijnVdS: who's she?
[15:26] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2D7GGkrJPM from her most recent album
[15:27] <MartijnVdS> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFwv2NPwFmI from earlier
[15:27] <Nafallo> MartijnVdS: NOES! just tell me. you're not jpds...
[15:27] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: I'm not jpds
[15:27] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: who's jpds? :)
[15:27] <Nafallo> jpds: who are you?
[15:29] <MartijnVdS> (why btw)
[15:29] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: She's a singer with a (imho) beautiful voice :)
[15:31] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: Narina Pallot... is it just me or does she bear a remarkable remblance [both looks & voice] to the 'promo' video distrubuted as a capilities example in Win'98? - remarkable resemblance - brilliant either way
[15:31] <Nafallo> hrm
[15:32] <Nafallo> I should stop using my credit card until Thursday, I think...
[15:32] <Nafallo> that would be a good plan ;-)
[15:32] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: There was a promo video with win 98?
[15:32] <mattt> DJones: wigan saints?  what are you on about?  :)
[15:33] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: yup  (sortoff, it was there as part of the system)- an inbuilt music vid
[15:33] <MartijnVdS> I don't remember that
[15:33] <MartijnVdS> I know Win95 had a few
[15:35] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqL1BLzn3qc ?
[15:36] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: whoops - u right - me wrong - 95 it was and that was the one I refer to.
[15:36] <SuperEngineer> yea gads - is it that long ago already....
[15:37] <SuperEngineer> so i guess the 2 are very different people - unless she's changed her name!  ;(
[15:38] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: nah she didn't. Nerina is a lot more British :)
[15:38] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[15:38] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: Listen to her talk at the end of this -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NFhT9ouxxw
[15:39] <MartijnVdS> (about 5 minutes into the video)
[15:39]  * SuperEngineer curses new minitube
[15:41]  * MartijnVdS runs off to the shop.. or I won't have anything to eat tonight ;|
[15:41] <SuperEngineer> I see what you mean MartijnVdS
[15:42] <SuperEngineer> [& how can a program that got things so right - move on and get things so wrong!]
[15:42]  * SuperEngineer curses new minitube again
[15:49]  * SuperEngineer wonders if MartijnVdS gets Liquorice Allsots & marshmellows for evening meal  ;)
[15:50] <SuperEngineer> *Allsorts
[15:51] <mattt> gross
[16:08] <SuperEngineer> weird - watching the irc channel - listening to Linux Outlaws - & viewing "Madagasgar" on tv
[16:09]  * SuperEngineer m= weired?
[16:09] <SuperEngineer> yeh, /me = weird ;)
[16:11] <SuperEngineer> [but those who aren't are missing the thrill of watching a tickle itself]
[16:12] <SuperEngineer> [..which is better than watching Gnome3 destroy itself ;) ]
[16:13] <SuperEngineer> [watching a lion tickle itself btw]
[18:16] <ruben__> всем привет
[18:16] <ruben__> как зделать панель юнтит автоскрываемой
[18:16] <brobostigon> what do people find is a good video editor, i cant get the hang og blender, as i did.
[18:16] <brobostigon> !ubuntu-ru
[18:17] <ruben__> have russions here?
[18:17] <brobostigon> me personally, no.
[18:17] <ruben__> what country is it?
[18:18] <jacobw> britain
[18:18] <ruben__> its not ukraine
[18:18] <brobostigon> uk - united kingdom. england, scotland, wales.
[18:18] <jacobw> ukraine is #ubuntu-ua
[18:18] <ruben__> ok sory
[18:18] <jacobw> your very welcome here as well :)
[18:18] <brobostigon> yes :)
[18:19] <ruben__> how can i make unity lanch do autohide in 12.04
[18:19] <brobostigon> sorry, i forgot northern ireland, there.
[18:19] <jacobw> nevermind
[18:20] <brobostigon> ruben__: i beleieve it is a setting, inside the appearence preferences.
[18:20] <jacobw> ruben__: http://www.tuxtree.com/2012/05/how-to-auto-hide-unity-in-ubuntu-12-04precise-pangolin.html
[18:20] <ruben__> ok
[18:22] <brobostigon> hmmm,
[22:04] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Stuart Langridge] How to make APIs that people like - http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2012/05/12/how-to-make-apis-that-people-like


[00:00] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: you can resize the partition in Ubuntu. You dont have to do it in Windows
[00:00] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: well if you can :P
[00:01] <jimisrvrox> duanedesign: well its not allowing me to resize the partition! thats the issue
[00:02] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: if you are using Gparted from the desktop you might try the installer. It has a partitioner based on Gparted by plays by a little different rules
[00:02] <jimisrvrox> duanedesign: right but I got to the partition thing and got a bit confused!
[00:03] <jimisrvrox> but I'll run it from the installer
[00:06] <jimisrvrox> ok duanedesign im at the partition piont
[00:06] <jimisrvrox> point*
[00:07] <jimisrvrox> ok now should I add a new partition table or edit the ntfs partition?
[00:08] <duanedesign> It should be something like: "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space
[00:09] <duanedesign> Specify the size of the new partition as a percentage of your entire hard disk
[00:09] <jimisrvrox> ok but im using xubuntu
[00:09] <jimisrvrox> so I think the installer is a bit different
[00:10] <duanedesign>  edit the ntfs partition
[00:10] <jimisrvrox> ok so i have the option to change the partition and put it in as ntfs and use the mount point /windows right?
[00:12] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: you dont need to set a mount point. At least my windows partition doesnt have one set in Gparted
[00:13] <jimisrvrox> ok but I shouldnt format the partition right?
[00:13] <jimisrvrox> I figure if I format it it'll wipe it out
[00:13] <duanedesign> right
[00:13] <duanedesign> yeah dont format
[00:14] <jimisrvrox> ok but heres the funny thing...when I change it only allows the fs option format option and mount point option
[00:14] <jimisrvrox> if I click on the device I can add a new partition table
[00:15] <duanedesign> hmm. there should be two options when you get to the partitioning section of the intsller. Manual Partitioning and Automatic...
[00:17] <jimisrvrox> right and i cliked on manual
[00:18] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: if you right click on the partition and select information
[00:19] <duanedesign> is their a 'Warning' box at the bottom
[00:19] <jimisrvrox> yup
[00:19] <jimisrvrox> im getting that 46 clusters are referenced multiple times and saying to run chkdsk /f on windows
[00:21] <jimisrvrox> NTFS is inconsistent Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it twice
[00:22] <jimisrvrox>  I bet you its this error
[00:22] <jimisrvrox> http://pastebin.ca/570633
[00:26] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: definetly boot into Windows and run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE
[00:26] <jimisrvrox> so after than then I should be able to resize it then
[00:27] <duanedesign> i am not sure how to do that with the /f parameter.
[00:27] <duanedesign> yes jimisrvrox
[00:27] <duanedesign> *should* :)
[00:27] <jimisrvrox> and I kept trying to figure out what the hekc the default pw was for su
[00:27] <jimisrvrox> I was gonna try to run the mount -a command bc the error message window was too small to display everything
[00:29] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: by default the root acount is disabled
[00:29] <jimisrvrox> yes I am aware of that
[00:29] <jimisrvrox> but you should be able to enable it from the command line via su
[00:30] <jimisrvrox> damn that chkdsk is gonna take a while eh
[00:31] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: to enable root account:  sudo passwd root
[00:31] <duanedesign> but if you can get by with using sudo i would do that
[00:31] <jimisrvrox> heh shows you how much I remember from my linux class heh
[00:32] <duanedesign> you can simulate a root login shell with :  sudo -i
[00:32] <duanedesign> If you really need a persistent root login
[00:32] <jimisrvrox> wtf happened to command line? press F8 for boot options and it doesnt give me just the damn command line
[00:33] <jimisrvrox> so I ran safe mode and ran chkdsk /f and it says oh were sorry we cant unlock the volume
[00:33] <duanedesign> hmm. that is odd
[00:34] <jimisrvrox> yeah tell me about it
[00:34] <jimisrvrox> usually you can get start system in command line
[00:55] <jimisrvrox> hey duanedesign you still around?
[01:19] <duanedesign> jimisrvrox: sorry on my out. Here is a good wiki page on setting up a dual boot.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Resizing%20Partitions%20Using%20the%20Ubuntu%20Installer
[01:20] <_CommandeR_> anyone tried wubi on a raid partition?
[01:37] <holstein> _CommandeR_: good question
[01:37] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410896
[01:37] <holstein> does that answer you question?
[01:37]  * holstein has never tried
[01:39] <_CommandeR_> hm that is from april 2007
[01:39] <holstein> yeah
[01:39] <_CommandeR_> but i tried wubi 10.4 and well issues after booting it.
[01:39] <holstein> says the new verion should support it
[01:39] <holstein> i was assuming the new verion would be out ;)
[01:39] <holstein> maybe not
[01:39] <_CommandeR_> would be odd
[01:44] <_CommandeR_> hm
[01:44] <holstein> indeed
[01:44] <holstein> i would probably try and install to an external USB drive
[01:45] <holstein> or some 'normal' partition somewhere
[01:45] <_CommandeR_> allready has, tried fedora on my usb it saw my partitions
[01:45] <_CommandeR_> already*
[01:45] <holstein> i dont have the gear here to test it
[01:46] <_CommandeR_> seems odd that noone has asked these questions before, now that raid is not so exclusive anymore.
[01:46] <holstein> i know
[02:10] <jimisrvrox> would I assign / and swap are primary and /home is logical right?
[02:10] <jimisrvrox> during a partition
[02:10] <zkriesse> jimisrvrox: I believe so
[02:11] <jimisrvrox> zkriesse: another guy is saying that it really doesnt make much of a difference
[02:12] <zkriesse> Hmm
[02:12] <_CommandeR_> having issues with wubi on my raid drive, stalls on Busybox and initramfs. You guys know how to resovle it?
[02:12] <zkriesse> no idea at this time _CommandeR_
[02:12] <_CommandeR_> hm
[02:40] <Vantrax> zkriesse, if he comes back check if its hardware or software raid
[02:41] <Vantrax> hardware raid should be possible but probably have to use the alternate install, software raid (Windows Raid) would break under wubi
[02:42] <zkriesse> k Vantrax
[02:51] <zkriesse> _CommandeR_: Vantrax> zkriesse, if he comes back check if its hardware or software raid
 hardware raid should be possible but probably have to use the alternate install, software raid (Windows Raid) would break under wubi
[02:51] <zkriesse> Vantrax: _CommandeR_ is here
[02:51] <_CommandeR_> Hardware raid.
[02:52] <_CommandeR_> but now wubi is freaking on me. Trying to install on my non raid disk that is on a another SATA port but now i get an error during installment of wubi = http://pastebin.org/353110
[03:00] <DarkNemesis> we see governments and corporations collaborating in ways unseen before, bringing an enforced  type of [pergitude] <------ how to spell that darn word? spell checker on ubuntu doesnt have a clue
[03:00] <_CommandeR_> lol
[03:00] <_CommandeR_> google it
[04:01] <Vantrax> someone tell commander that he can use wubi with the netbook cd
[04:04] <holstein> Vantrax: with hardware rai?
[04:04] <holstein> raid*
[04:14] <Vantrax> no, no netbook with wubi at all
[04:39] <tmw> hi
[04:39] <tmw> I am new to ubuntu!
[05:45] <Vantrax> I find it funny when someone joins, says something and quits in the same minute. What are we teaching children about patience...
[05:56] <shahan> WINE issue
[05:58] <shahan> want to delete software from WIne List. But its not uninstalling(no uninstall data, I have already deleted the data from from "Browse C: Drive")
[05:58] <Vantrax> so you want to delete a menu item
[06:05] <shahan> Vantrax: yes
[06:05] <Vantrax> run alacrte or right click on the ubuntu logo and go edit menu
[06:06] <Vantrax> should allow you to do it there
[06:06] <Vantrax> if its what im thinking
[06:06] <shahan> Vantrax: yes...
[06:06] <shahan> Vantrax: its gone.........
[06:06] <shahan> Vantrax: thank you
[06:06] <Vantrax> np
[08:11] <shahan> I wanna know.... is my Processor support 64bit or 32 Bit.... from  LUCID
[08:23] <shahan> I want to download "ubuntu-restricted-extras" offline package.. so that I can install it in a offline computer
[08:23] <shahan> tell me if any dependecies is required
[08:40] <kermiac> shahan: to see what dependencies a package has you can use 'apt-rdepends' - See http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-check-package-dependencies-with-apt-rdepends-on-ubuntu.html
[08:45] <kermiac> shahan: to see if your processor is 64 bit you can use 'cpuinfo' - see 'How Do I Find Out CPU is 32bit or 64bit?' @ http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-find-if-processor-is-64-bit-or-not/
[08:54] <shahan> kermiac: I want the "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[08:54] <shahan> kermiac: offline installer
[08:56] <kermiac> shahan: is this what you need? http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Ubuntu-restricted-extras_offline_installer
[08:57] <kermiac> missed by that much...
[13:04] <DarkNemesis> i am setting up a router with ubuntu what port to set as tcp?
[13:07] <Fanshawe> Hey everybody. Anyone have a good guide to setting up LVM withour formatting your system?
[13:09] <Chesamo> Fanshawe: LVM? Logical Volume Manager? As in, secondary partitions?
[13:10] <Fanshawe> Yeah. It seems my hard drive(s?) on my laptop are recognised as seperate devices, but I'd like for them to act as one.
[13:12] <Fanshawe> I'm fairly certain they're not just seperate partitions, by the way.
[13:12] <zkriesse> Chesamo: what happened to aveilux?
[13:12] <Chesamo> Fanshawe: You're talking about setting up a RAID?
[13:12] <Chesamo> Oh.
[13:12] <Chesamo> zkreisse: I'm on my laptop
[13:12] <zkriesse> ah
[13:13] <zkriesse> !raid
[13:13] <ubot2> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[13:13] <zkriesse> !raid | Fanshawe
[13:13] <ubot2> Fanshawe: please see above
[13:13] <Fanshawe> ah. Thank you.
[13:16] <hobgoblin> DarkNemesis: does it not just see it then?
[13:27] <hobgoblin> DarkNemesis: does ubuntu not see the router then?
[13:29] <goodtime> ifconfig will tell you hobgoblin
[13:29] <hobgoblin> pardon?
[13:29] <goodtime> ifconfig
[13:29] <goodtime> shows you your ip and your gateway
[13:30] <goodtime> the gateway is the router
[13:30] <hobgoblin> lol - I was asking someone if they could not see their router - you didn't see the question :)
[13:30] <goodtime> lol
[13:30] <goodtime> ok
[13:31] <hobgoblin> I've seen you about a bit on here lately - got lots of little niggling issues have you? or just wandering about and helping where you can
[13:31] <goodtime> yes im a beginner
[13:31] <goodtime> im only window savy but linux i like
[13:32] <hobgoblin> excellent :) so am I and have been for 3 or 4 years so far - always something to learn - as it should be :)
[13:32] <goodtime> right
[13:32] <zkriesse> goodtime: well if you are looking to learn your talking to the master... (hobgoblin) not me
[13:32] <goodtime> ok oic heh
[13:33] <hobgoblin> it's nice to see new people wandering in and learning stuff - especially nice to see people getting into the whole community thing as well
[13:33] <hobgoblin> I'd not be calling me a master :)
[13:33] <zkriesse> lol hobgoblin
[13:33] <zkriesse> lier
[13:33] <goodtime> thats the real reason i like linux
[13:33] <goodtime> plus i like to tell people i run linux
[13:34] <goodtime> ipods are toughf
[13:34] <hobgoblin> ipods are rubbish
[13:34] <hobgoblin> iWon't get taken in by any of the iHype
[13:34] <aveilleux> I rather like the aesthetics of the iPod
[13:34] <goodtime> i need to figure it out i will get paid for some mp3s hehe
[13:35] <goodtime> plus i owe someone 9000 songs messing with a ipod of his
[13:35] <goodtime> i lost it somehow idk
[13:35] <hobgoblin> aveilleux: I'm too old to worry about what things look like - always been a function over form type :)
[13:36] <hobgoblin> goodtime: oh dear ...
[13:36] <goodtime> yeah tell me about it
[13:37] <goodtime> my amerok doesnt work ive try to reinstall it but it wont work
[13:37] <hobgoblin> with ipod? have you tried rhythmbox and gtkpod
[13:37] <goodtime> idk man ill figure it out
[13:38] <goodtime> yeah rhythmbox i could not figure out
[13:38] <hobgoblin> gtkpod is a good place to start apparently
[13:38] <zkriesse> goodtime: need help with ipod?
[13:38]  * zkriesse has one
[13:38] <hobgoblin> I though can't help with that - that's why I use mp3players that work with linux
[13:38] <goodtime> i have it i just dont know how to use them with these apps
[13:39] <goodtime> zkriesse: i dont have it right now the ipod
[13:39] <goodtime> so do i hobgoblin
[13:40] <goodtime> but i need to be ready for ipods because there the most trendy toys
[13:52] <goodtime> im so glad i bought a seagate 500gig external hdd
[13:53] <goodtime> it worked right away
[16:26] <spursncowboys> Hi all. I dual boot with win 7 and ubuntu 10.04. While on win7, I was downloading and filled up a separate partition I had for my movies, set up with nfts. Once it was full, I couldn't get to it. I only saw it from my app on Rainmeter. However I couldn't see if from My Computer. When I restarted my computer it would go straight to grub rescue prompt. When I put ubuntu 10.04 live and went to gparted and tried to reinstall, none of my partitio
[16:41] <zkriesse> hello Scunizi
[16:42] <Scunizi> morning
[16:44] <spursncowboys> Do you guys have any ideas of what to do. should I try and get ubuntu rescue remix?
[16:45] <holstein> spursncowboys: grub wont boot ubuntu or win7?
[16:46] <spursncowboys> no and when i use ubuntu live and gparted, it doesn't recognize any os
[16:46] <holstein> maybe your hard drive failed
[16:47] <holstein> gparted wont boot anything
[16:47] <holstein> !grub2
[16:47] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[16:47] <holstein> i would look at that link
[16:47] <holstein> and try to recover grub from a live CD
[16:48] <holstein> see if that gets you in
[16:48] <holstein> and go from there
[16:48] <holstein> spursncowboys: did you edit /etc/fstab ?
[16:49] <spursncowboys> no what would that do?
[16:49] <holstein> if you had, that might keep your ubuntu system from booting
[16:49] <holstein> just a question
[16:49] <holstein> you dont need to edit it
[16:50] <spursncowboys> oh ok. I made a new partition a few days ago through a windows program. But I have restarted and grub has worked fine since.
[16:51] <holstein> so, grub is booting win7 and ubuntu?
[16:51] <spursncowboys> holstein: yeah
[16:52] <holstein> hmmm
[16:52] <holstein> so, whats the problem spursncowboys ?
[16:53] <zkriesse> hello pica-pica
[16:53] <spursncowboys> wait. no it's not booting. it goes to grub rescue. then in ubuntu live, it doesn't recognize any of the partitions.
[16:53] <siddhion> hey. does anyone know what the keyboard shortcuts for lucid are? volume control?
[16:53] <zkriesse> siddhion: Keyboard shortcuts for what?
[16:53] <holstein> spursncowboys: i would try restoring grub
[16:53] <spursncowboys> holstein: how
[16:53] <holstein> but you coule have a hardware issue
[16:54] <holstein> could*
[16:54] <holstein> !grub2 | spursncowboys
[16:54] <ubot2> spursncowboys: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[16:54] <siddhion> zkriesse volume keyboard shortcut.
[16:54] <spursncowboys> holstein: it is an acer apire one. im reading that wiki as we speak. thanks for the help.
[16:55] <zkriesse> siddhion: hmm one sec
[16:55] <holstein> spursncowboys: Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD
[16:55] <siddhion> zkriesse oh its ok, i found it. System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[16:55] <holstein> that section
[16:55] <holstein> that would be my first step i think
[16:55] <holstein> bu you could have a bad HD
[16:56] <zkriesse> siddhion: heh
[16:56] <zkriesse> siddhion: glad you did
[16:56] <spursncowboys> holstein: is there a program from ubuntu live, or are you talking about gparted?
[16:56] <siddhion> zkriesse ;)
[16:56] <holstein> spursncowboys: there are tools on the live CD
[16:56] <holstein> spursncowboys: Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD
[16:57] <holstein> ^^ that section explains the process
[16:57] <spursncowboys> holstein: i am on ubuntu live right now
[17:00]  * DarkNemesis just got back from the dentist and now has red braces (red and white teeth)
[17:00] <DarkNemesis> just won the group
[17:03] <holstein> spursncowboys: did your partitions show up when you ran 'sudo fdisk l' ?
[17:04] <spursncowboys> holstein: no
[17:05] <holstein> seems like your partitions are bad
[17:05] <holstein> i would probably hit google for some rescue tools
[17:05] <holstein> thats going to get ugly though
[17:06] <spursncowboys> i'm pretty novice with all this.
[17:06] <holstein> yeah?
[17:06] <holstein> your re-partitioning in windows
[17:06] <holstein> thats fairly advanced
[17:09] <spursncowboys>  I used partition wizard.
[17:10] <spursncowboys> holstein: would ubuntu rescue help?
[17:12]  * holstein has not used ubuntu rescue
[17:23] <duanedesign> 3/3
[17:37] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: hey got a sec?
[17:44] <_CommandeR_> need help with wubi getting errors for some reason = http://pastebin.org/354657
[17:46] <duanedesign> hello _CommandeR_
[17:46] <_CommandeR_> hi m8
[17:46]  * duanedesign looking
[17:47] <duanedesign> i've never used Wubi but i'll take a look
[17:47] <_CommandeR_> it worked few times but got errors during reboot now it wont even restart
[17:47] <duanedesign> ugh
[17:47] <_CommandeR_> it points to command=c:\windows\system32\bcdedit.exe
[17:47] <_CommandeR_> but i have no such folder.
[17:47] <_CommandeR_> lol wrong..
[17:48] <_CommandeR_> this one lol  = command=C:\Windows\sysnative\bcdedit.exe  /
[17:48] <_CommandeR_> i do not have that foler.
[17:48] <_CommandeR_> folder*
[17:53] <duanedesign> It looks like their might be an issue with Wubi. It doesn't play very well with Windows 7 64-bit at the moment.
[17:54] <duanedesign> I cant confirm this. Just what some users are saying on the forums
[17:54] <_CommandeR_> hm but there is no fix..?
[17:54] <_CommandeR_> or workarround?
[17:55] <_CommandeR_> also searching but finding old cases or not finished bug reports saying it should not do that
[17:58] <_CommandeR_> hm the install worked when i did run it in xp compability mode
[17:59] <hobgoblin> quick question - which I shall repeat at odd intervals - anyone in here from the UK and had experience getting nfs to work with a homehub
[18:00] <hobgoblin> _CommandeR_: at the risk of not sounding like I wish to help - why use wubi and not a dual boot - personally I think it's ok to check things out but no  more than that
[18:00] <_CommandeR_> hobgoblin, i have a raid 0 partition
[18:00] <_CommandeR_> and also another big one on my harddrive
[18:00] <_CommandeR_> want to check kubuntu out a bit
[18:00] <hobgoblin> aah - I think we've had this conversation
[18:01] <_CommandeR_> already have ubuntu as default on my laptop :)
[18:01] <ronaldo_> hello my fist time installation is using a wibi inside the windows....i got the same errors
[18:01] <ronaldo_> hello my fist time installation is using a wibi inside the windows....i got the same errors
[18:01] <_CommandeR_> have an ati card on this setup so want to check how that works :)
[18:01] <ronaldo_> commander
[18:01] <_CommandeR_> ronaldo_, what errors ?
[18:02] <ronaldo_> purely in downloading of wibi installer.......but the best installation is not install an ubuntu inside the windows using the wibi installer
[18:02] <hobgoblin> _CommandeR_: not got enough memory to run a vm?
[18:03] <_CommandeR_> ronaldo_, do not get
[18:03] <_CommandeR_> hobgoblin, vm got a limited 3d capability from what i know
[18:03] <ronaldo_> ok what Os that using ....Windows Vista or Windows 7
[18:03] <_CommandeR_> win7 64bit
[18:04] <_CommandeR_> seems that wubi points to wrong file when trying to edit boot
[18:04] <_CommandeR_> C:\Windows\sysnative\bcdedit.exe/delete instead of windows\system32\bcdedit.exe
[18:04] <hobgoblin> _CommandeR_: not sure - my checking things out does not run to the flim flam - I just really want to know how the things work in package install terms for instance
[18:05] <_CommandeR_> hm but hearing that ATi cards run into few issues on linux is well need to test out first.
[18:05] <ronaldo_> i do not know in Windows7   but I have a problem when i using wibi installer inside the windows....the error after installing the ubuntu os isssssssss......some user -group account ...problem
[18:05] <_CommandeR_> have 5970card and well not sure if it is supported
[18:07] <_CommandeR_> hobgoblin, rebooting to check if kubuntu boots. brb
[18:17] <go> hi team
[18:18] <duanedesign> hello go
[18:18]  * go is Akos/Puck
[18:19] <duanedesign> maybe you could combine all three monikers---->   gopuckakos
[18:19] <duanedesign> :P
[18:20] <go> haha
[18:26] <andrei> i don't know how to say this
[18:26] <andrei> what i have to append at a command when i need to pause listing
[18:27] <andrei> i remember there was something with | but i don't know what to look for in google
[18:29] <andrei> and how do i apply changes that i make in the file browser list style to all folders?
[18:44] <hobgoblin> andrei - less or more to pause listing
[18:48] <hobgoblin> andrei: file manager issue - edit preferences - views
[19:08] <andrei> thank you
[19:12] <hobgoblin> welcome
[19:49] <dragondon> Hey all, any idea why VNC refuses to allow my android phone to connect with a password yet works fine without the password.  (Yes, 'm typing the right one....)
[20:38] <zkriesse> hey team
[21:32] <qwiksilver711> i have a alienwarem11x with a switchable graphics card, ubuntu on the 2.6.32 kernel runs with the graphics card on all the time, which kills my battery, now the 2.6.34 kernel turns it off, but no wifi drivers for that... how do i fix
[21:33] <skip> have installed, by mistake, 10.01. How can I tell which partitions this caused to be made and how to remove them?
[21:33] <qwiksilver711> i didnt think there was a 10.01 skip
[21:34] <Bodsda> skip: 'sudo fdisk -l' will list your partitions
[21:41] <duanedesign> qwiksilver711: do you know which wifi driver you need?
[21:44] <qwiksilver711> sorry
[21:44] <skip> sooooo, I screwed up . Again. It is lucid 10.04. I tried to download lucid 3 times cause nothing happened, I thought. Then: out of space. How get space back?
[21:44] <qwiksilver711> yes
[21:44] <qwiksilver711> i need the broadcom dw1250 sta driver
[21:45] <Bodsda> skip: delete files? 'df -h' will list percent of drive space used on each of your partitions
[21:51] <skip> not sure what I am looking at. It lists files I would not delete. Is there a way to send copy to you ? I tried select all , copy  and paste to this line. Did not send
[21:55] <qwiksilver711> no ideas?
[21:57] <Bodsda> skip: yeah, run this, it will install a small app for sending info to a weblink then it will run it - 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit && df -h | pastebinit'
[22:01] <skip> OK. Got it. How use it?
[22:10] <duanedesign> skip: <command> | pastebinit
[22:46] <_CommandeR_> hm
[22:46] <_CommandeR_> hi people o/
[22:47] <duanedesign> hi _CommandeR_
[22:47] <duanedesign> _CommandeR_: Wubi still fighting you?
[22:48] <_CommandeR_> yeah
[22:48] <_CommandeR_> tried xp mode but then it modified wrong bootfile -_-
[22:48] <_CommandeR_> vista mode gives same error as win7 mode.
[22:50] <_CommandeR_> odd that it worked previous times with the same installer on same os
[23:05] <_CommandeR_> hm ok so how is ubuntu working on raid system, as far as i know Windows needs drivers for raid while installing so how is ubuntu on that?


[20:18] <ahasenack> hi #security, I subscribed ubuntu-security@ to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keystone//+bug/1998789 for your evaluation, it's claiming to fix a DoS in keystone and is currently in focal-unapproved
[20:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu-security- Launchpad bug 1998789 in keystone (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] PooledLDAPHandler.result3 does not release pool connection back when an exception is raised" [Undecided, In Progress]


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[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #178538 in linux-meta (main) "Mobo ASUS P5KC - GBE ethernet controller not detected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178538
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178536 in sbuild "Preinstalled Build-Depends not properly detected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178536
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #178539 in ubuntu "ipod nano nukes album art data on mount" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178539
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #178540 in debian-installer (main) "[Hardy Alpha-2] No network interfaces detected when install alternate CD (Weybridge)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178540
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #178541 in alltray (universe) "Alltray fails to set window title with Compiz/Emerald and --no-alltray command line option." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178541
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178542 in kbfx (universe) "kbfx causes system tray applets to undock when reloaded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178542
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178544 in evolution-data-server (main) "e-d-s should use gnome-keyring again" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178544
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #178549 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV when unlocking screen (dup-of: 131679)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178549
[07:07] <Hobbsee> oh wow1
[07:07] <persia> You're shift key works in reverse?
[07:07] <persia> s/You're/Your/
[07:10] <Hobbsee> it's not working
[07:10] <Hobbsee> neither is alt, caps lock, etc
[07:11] <Hobbsee> it's happened before.  it goes away when i restrat x
[07:11]  * Hobbsee is surprised that it got found as a dupe automatically
[07:12] <persia> Have you tried adding an InputDevice stanza to xorg.conf?  Regarding the dup: I thought apport has had that feature for a few months now.
[07:13] <Hobbsee> it seems to be transient
[07:13] <Hobbsee> but i'm not sure why it's going now
[07:13]  * Hobbsee gose back to xaa
[07:13] <persia> Extra-strange.  Good luck.
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #178553 in bloboats (universe) "no sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178553
[07:16] <Hobbsee> Right.
[07:16] <Hobbsee> bug #175744
[07:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 175744 in compiz "Hardy freezes when using compiz" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175744
[07:16] <Hobbsee> ubotu: ping
[07:16] <ubotu> pong
[07:19]  * Hobbsee celebrates that that's fixed now
[07:19] <Hobbsee> right, so one more showstopper comipz bug.
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178555 in ekiga (main) "[Hardy Alpha 2] No usable audio plugin detected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178555
[07:37] <ubotu> New bug: #178038 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_newv() when multiple flash objects are playing simultaneously" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178038
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178557 in ubuntu "Cannot install/upgrade epiphany-gecko" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178557
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #178558 in firefox-3.0 (universe) "Firefox 3.0 makes everything annoyingly huge" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178558
[08:07] <Hobbsee> !ping
[08:07] <ubotu> pong
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #178559 in linux (main) "Built-in keyboard and trackpad don't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178559
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178561 in dvgrab (universe) "Piping / redirection error in dvgrab 3.0-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178561
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #178562 in synaptic (main) "(Gutsy) when asked if u'd like to unmark the dependency packages - it won't unmark them" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178562
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178564 in gnome-session (main) "[Hardy]cannot log back into GNOME after you lock the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178564
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178566 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[Hardy Alpha 2][Regression] Monitor does not dim/blank on inactivity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178566
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178567 in gnome-terminal (main) "201095" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178567
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #178568 in update-manager (main) "adept tries to upgarde to 7.10 while i alredy have 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178568
[10:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm told that "This bug is not recorded as needing to be fixed in xorg (Ubuntu). " is "that the xorg-server source package provides the xorg binary package.". does that mean the bug needs to be reasigned?
[10:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> its bug 177870 btw.
[10:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177870 in xorg-server "SGI licenced code in Xorg is non-free" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177870
[10:07] <persia> Kamping_Kaiser: That status looks like "Confirmed" for xorg-server in Ubuntu.  What do you see that is different than I?  Does it change if you use the URL ubotu provided?
[10:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/177870 says confirmed in debian, incomplete in ubuntu
[10:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177870 in xorg-server "SGI licenced code in Xorg is non-free" [Unknown,Confirmed]
[10:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> same content, just one has red text and one doesnt? *finds LP more confusing every day*
[10:09] <persia> Does it still say "This bug is not recorded as needing to be fixed in xorg (Ubuntu). " ?
[10:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, your link doesnt have that text
[10:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> er, ubotu 's link
[10:11] <persia> I suspect it's just an artifact of the launchpad URL parsing scheme.  To me it looks like the bug needs more information, which may have been provided on 21st December, but I suspect it's waiting on input from Kevin.
[10:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> what sort of extra input does it need? i can ask him/provide it myself
[10:14] <persia> Kamping_Kaiser: It was originally set "Incomplete" from the request to identify the specific non-free files.  If those have been provided, "Incomplete" should be adjusted to either "New" or "Confirmed", depending on whether you are the person who filed the bug.
[10:14] <persia> If you are the person filing the bug, and want Confirmed, you must get someone else to review the relevant licensing.
[10:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> well its been reviewed by the fsf. kevin emailed licencing@ and they declare the licence non-free. hence we have the gnewsense bug, and this ubuntu bug
[10:17] <persia> Right.  If it is only those three files, than "Incomplete" is no longer correct.  It just needs two people with LP accounts to get a bug "Confirmed", just as a matter of peer review.  If there are additional files, those should be reported as well.
[10:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> those are the two i'm aware of.
[10:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> as for another LP user, i guess that will have to wait until after xmas when people come back.
[10:20] <persia> Kamping_Kaiser: Essentially.  Of course, the delay isn't important, as it likely has to wait for next week for someone to be available to look at fixing it as well :)
[10:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe. i'm keen to not be the delay :)
[10:22] <persia> Kamping_Kaiser: Just to make sure, you've downloaded the Ubuntu source and verified the files are included?
[10:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> persia, yes. gnewsense/ubuntu/debian sid all have the files in question
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #178570 in ubuntu "Please sync vbrfix 0.24-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178570
[11:40] <Kmos> Hobbsee: morning
[11:40] <Kmos> bug 178570
[11:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 178570 in ubuntu "Please sync vbrfix 0.24-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178570
[11:40] <Kmos> can you unbscribe this one from U-A
[11:40] <Kmos> *unsbscribe
[11:41] <Hobbsee> hi Kmos
[11:44]  * Hobbsee ack's the bug
[11:44] <Hobbsee> oh, i can't unsubscribe u-u-s now.  darn
[11:45] <Kmos> Hobbsee: ok, thanks =)
[11:45] <Hobbsee> ah well
[11:46] <Hobbsee> if it's marked as triaged, they'll probably ignore it
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178571 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "flashplugin-nonfree doesn't install in feisty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178571
[11:46] <Kmos> Hobbsee: maybe should be confirmed
[11:47]  * Hobbsee sighs
[11:47] <Kmos> i changed it :)
[11:47]  * Hobbsee uses triaged, as non-motu's usually can't, unless they're in the old qa group
[11:47] <Hobbsee> Kmos: why?
[11:47] <Hobbsee> Kmos: >>>
[11:47] <Kmos> shouldn't be "confirmed" ?
[11:48] <Hobbsee> Kmos: what did you get told about changing other people's bugs, when they're motus?
[11:48]  * Hobbsee adds it to the feedback sheet.
[11:48] <Kmos> sorry
[11:48] <Kmos> you tried to help
[11:48] <Hobbsee> ....
[11:48] <Kmos> changed back
[11:48] <Kmos> Michael R. Head
[11:48] <Kmos> isn't a MOTU
[11:49] <Hobbsee> duh.
[11:49] <Hobbsee> Kmos: let me give you a hint.  the MOTU's *tend* to know more than you, and so you reverting their changes is very bad.
[11:49] <Kmos> you need to unsubscribe U-U-S from it
[11:49] <Hobbsee> you need to learn to read.
[11:49] <Hobbsee> [22:44] <Hobbsee> oh, i can't unsubscribe u-u-s now.  darn
[11:49] <Hobbsee> and, again
[11:49] <Hobbsee> [22:49] <Hobbsee> Kmos: let me give you a hint.  the MOTU's *tend* to know more than you, and so you reverting their changes is very bad.
 if it's marked as triaged, they'll probably ignore it
[11:49] <Hobbsee> same applies to telling them what to do.
[11:50] <Kmos> i only changed because of this.
[11:50] <Hobbsee> they being u-u-s
[11:50] <Hobbsee> Kmos: look.  do you *really* think that MOTU's are getting the proceedure wrong, and you're hte only one getting it right?
[11:50] <Hobbsee> Kmos: if it's done differently, there's probably a damned good reason for it.
[11:51] <Kmos> Hobbsee: yes.. but you talked about ignored it.. i think it should be changed, ok.. i think it wrong
[11:51] <Kmos> i'm not questioning MOTU status
[11:51] <Hobbsee> i talked about *u-u-s* ignoring it.  not -archive ignoring it.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> (as it followed directly from the line talking about u-u-s)
[11:52] <Kmos> you're right.. but I think you talk about U-A :(
[11:58]  * Hobbsee did not.
[11:59] <Kmos> i know now.. i'm sorry
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #178572 in gnome-games (main) "gnobots2 2.20.1 doesn't redraw playing screen correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178572
[12:14]  * persia notes that UUS tends to treat Triaged and Confirmed equally, so a bug doesn't get ignored when "Triaged", and shouldn't be set back to "Confirmed".  All bugs going to UUS should be in a Triaged state, but because not everyone can set Triaged, "Confirmed" is recommended.
[12:15] <Hobbsee> persia: aww, pity.
[12:15] <persia> Changing the status of bugs in the UUS queue just annoys the sponsors, as they get lots of extra bugmail, so best to leave it in either of the above states.
[12:15] <Hobbsee> persia: would be a quick bug to knock off your list, anyway :)
[12:15] <Hobbsee> persia: i thought LP was delaying bugmail sending now
[12:16] <Hobbsee> persia: so it sends blocks fo changes, every 5 mins or so
[12:17] <persia> Is it?  I'm not sure.  I personally got too annoyed by sponsor bugmail, and no longer receive it, but I know many sponsors do.
[12:17] <Hobbsee> i think so.  i think it's changed recently
[12:17] <Hobbsee> if not, i think it's planned
[12:18] <persia> Still, spurious changes to bugs in the sponsors queues or the archive queue should be avoided.
[12:19]  * persia grumbles about the extreme duplication of that activity log, and goes off to find something less unpleasant.
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178574 in ubuntu "Gutsy and Hardy - blank screen when installing - UniChrome Pro IGP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178574
[13:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178577 in openoffice.org (main) "open office pdf export bad regional characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178577
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #178579 in ubuntu "I can't get my Epson C1100 printer to work in 7.10 Gutsy Gibbo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178579
[13:55] <ubotu> New bug: #178580 in ubuntu "Ubuntu needs much more options on installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178580
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #178581 in evince (main) "Evince shows blank page where acroread does not" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178581
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #178582 in thunderbird (main) "pb to sent a mail on imap account" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178582
[14:40] <ubotu> New bug: #178583 in javahelp2 (universe) "Please sync latest version from Debian, fixes FTBFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178583
[14:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178584 in hardinfo (universe) "Hardinfo: Hardinfo cannot run CPU Zlib benchmark. Cannot find libz.so." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178584
[15:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178586 in sound-juicer (main) "Bad profiles for Sound Juicer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178586
[15:40] <ubotu> New bug: #178587 in kdebase (main) "KTip - typo in a button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178587
[15:49] <ubotu> New bug: #178588 in slimserver (universe) "slimserver defaults to no external access" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178588
[16:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178590 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanager won't connect to hidden network after reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178590
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178592 in nautilus (main) "movie player freezes up computer playing music" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178592
[16:46] <ubotu> New bug: #178593 in thunderbird (main) "afichage " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178593
[16:47] <nanley> Hello, I've got a question about bug statuses.
[16:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178594 in deluge-torrent (universe) "deluge crashed with OSError in calc_free_space()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178594
[16:56] <nanley> Should fixed bugs be given the Fix Released status or the Invalid status? I usually the first option is only there for package maintainers
[17:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178597 in alacarte (main) "alacarte core dump error x64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178597
[17:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178598 in ubuntu "KDE System Tray sometimes displays icon in 2 row sometimes in 1 row" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178598
[17:01] <ubotu> New bug: #178596 in xorg (main) "Intel GMA x3100 configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178596
[17:02] <crimsun> nanley: depends on the context
[17:02] <nanley> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/136836
[17:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136836 in ubuntu "Ethernet (nVidia MCP55) is not working on Gusty Tribe 5" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[17:02] <nanley> That's one bug that i'm thinking about
[17:02] <crimsun> nanley: Fix Released is used when there were actual code or package maintainer script changes that resolve the issue
[17:03] <nanley> crimsun: so it shouldn't be used when a reporter just says their problem was fixed after and update or upgrade?
[17:03] <crimsun> nanley: it really depends what was changed in the update/upgrade
[17:04] <crimsun> nanley: sometimes tracking the changes is quite time-consuming.  If you're not sure, ask the group in charge here on IRC
[17:05] <nanley> crimsun: Bug #125619 - so I would have to track the changes in this bug? That seems like too much work...
[17:05] <crimsun> nanley: 136836 should be marked Fix Released due to Amit's change in linux-source-2.6.22 (2.6.22-13.40)
[17:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 125619 in gksu "[Gutsy] memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() in tribe 2 installer" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125619
[17:06] <crimsun> nanley: tracking the changes is sometimes as straightforward as reading the latest Changelog or Release Notes
[17:06] <nanley> crimsun: wow, triaging bugs is more complex than I thought it was :P
[17:09] <nanley> crimsun: I see - must search for changelogs... What you've told me should really be in the BugSquad wiki. The wiki kinda just leaves everyone hanging
[17:10] <crimsun> nanley: feel free to add the pointers
[17:10] <crimsun> nanley: also, for 125619, you should check upstream's bug tracker for similar bug statuses
[17:10] <nanley> crimsun: oakie doakie
[17:10] <ubotu> New bug: #178599 in lcdproc (universe) "RFE add "lis" driver for L.I.S. MCE 2005 display (available in "current" CVS nightly snapshots)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178599
[17:11] <nanley> crimsun: thanks for the help!
[17:13] <crimsun> nanley: yw
[17:21] <ubotu> New bug: #178600 in hardinfo (universe) "Hardinfo: Hardinfo does not show correct labels (names) for all device sensors." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178600
[17:21] <ubotu> New bug: #178601 in debian "USB devices not registering, and other: "device not accepting address" or "device descriptor read/64, error " issues on ubuntu, mint 4.0 and debian etch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178601
[17:45] <rendero> #173901
[17:46] <rendero> bug #173901
[17:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173901 in xorg-server "Gutsy - X only starts in recovery mode and being forced with tricks after modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use glx direct rendering exactly as suggested in Compiz web page for NVidia drivers " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173901
[17:47] <rendero> hello, anybody can tell something to guide me with the bug above, thank you in advance.
[17:55] <ubotu> New bug: #178602 in mplayer (multiverse) "Mplayer can't play a movie in Korean Language environment." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178602
[18:11] <ubotu> New bug: #178603 in git-core (main) "git-clone fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178603
[18:12] <crimsun> rendero: first, it's worth pointing out that Recovery mode in the GRUB menu is /not/ failsafe X.  It's the equivalent of 'linux single' or 'linux 1'.
[18:13] <crimsun> rendero: next, this bug report is not a bug report at all and should be converted to a support question (see the link on the left pane)
[18:25] <rendero> crimsun, what should be the difference to report as a bug, i think it is. About recovery mode, is all i tried with "test and error" and searches in internet,  when people had similar problems, not doing this is not being able to using ubuntu
[18:26] <crimsun> rendero: you're essentially asking for assistance in configuring Compiz under KDE with the non-Free binary-only Nvidia driver.
[18:28] <rendero> crimsun, may be because you can not edit what you wrote is not clear. I add some comments, and the point is that the bug is that when you normally enter, you have a shell with a cursor and nothing else you can do than push the reboot button
[18:29] <rendero> crimsun, ok , now is saw that, i changed description
[18:29] <rendero> * i saw
[18:40] <ubotu> New bug: #178607 in ubuntu "pseudo package for developers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178607
[18:46] <blerk> im doing an apt-get upgrade on my hardy install and after downloading the updates i got some internal apt-get error on libstdc++6, anyone else ran into this ?
[18:49] <blerk> oh, i fixed it by manualy upgrading libstdc++6 first, lovely =)
[18:50] <e_r_c_1> yep
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #178608 in ubuntu "LiveCD fails on Aspire 1360 with black screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178608
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #178609 in easycrypt (universe) "vfat filesystems aren't mounted with utf8 support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178609
[19:15] <ubotu> New bug: #178612 in f-spot (main) "f-spot slideshow broken with desktop effects enabled " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178612
[19:16] <ubotu> New bug: #178611 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 131679)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178611
[19:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178613 in kde-systemsettings (main) "system settings creates a broken xorg.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178613
[19:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178614 in ktorrent (main) "KTorrent 3.0 Beta 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178614
[19:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178615 in ubuntu "Xubuntu LiveCD doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178615
[19:25] <ubotu> New bug: #178616 in adduser (main) "Add override options when home directory already exists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178616
[19:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178617 in update-manager (main) "Could not initialize the package information" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178617
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #178618 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany-gecko crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178618
[20:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178619 in ubuntu "Belkin F5D7010 v7 does not work at all, while vendor has linux drivers." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178619
[20:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178620 in gphpedit (universe) "gphpedit crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178620
[20:15] <ubotu> New bug: #178621 in ubuntu "Can not remove a user and create a new one with the same username as the deleted one. No error message is presented." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178621
[20:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178623 in ubuntu "Belkin F5D7010 v7 does not work at all, while vendor has linux drivers." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178623
[20:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178624 in ubuntu "Eclipse default installation shows error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178624
[20:26] <ubotu> New bug: #178625 in gnome-games (main) "slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178625
[20:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178626 in deluge-torrent (universe) "New version: Deluge 0.5.8RC2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178626
[20:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178627 in net6 (main) "Please sync net6 1:1.3.6-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178627
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #178628 in ubuntu "Sager 5680 no sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178628
[21:00] <ubotu> New bug: #178629 in ubuntu "IWL3945 Fails to Recover Connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178629
[21:05] <ubotu> New bug: #178630 in ubuntu "pugs Loading Prelude... Segmentation fault (core dumped)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178630
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #178631 in k3b (main) "[gutsy] k3b crashes with *** stack smashing detected ***" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178631
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #178632 in file-roller (main) "Password dialog says "Password:wolverine" instead of "Password:" on en_CA (???)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178632
[21:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178634 in linux-source-2.6.22 "ati-agp fails to load Radeon 9000 IGP (device id: 7831)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178634
[21:36] <ubotu> New bug: #178635 in vlc (universe) "Streaming with PVR card, bitrate doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178635
[21:36] <ubotu> New bug: #178636 in ubuntu "No Sound on HP dv2310 Laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178636
[21:45] <ubotu> New bug: #178637 in gcc-4.0 (universe) "PR28045 (gcc optimization bug) still not fixed in dapper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178637
[21:52] <ubotu> New bug: #178638 in virtualbox-ose-modules (universe) "virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic fails to chown device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178638
[22:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178641 in ubiquity (main) "Dell m1330 mbr needs overwriting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178641
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #178640 in linux-meta (main) "kernel 2.6.22-14-server oops XFS " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178640
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #178642 in synaptic (main) "Can't do exact search with Synaptic e.g. "file manager"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178642
[22:30] <ubotu> New bug: #178643 in conduit (universe) "Please sync conduit 0.3.4-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178643
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #178645 in ubuntu "installation crushes on runing cd system Sony Vaio CR13 Core2Duo 1.83 display ati x2300 webcam sony built in vcc6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178645
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[23:20] <ubotu> New bug: #178651 in context (universe) "External figure directory setup broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178651
[23:25] <ubotu> New bug: #178652 in sound-juicer (main) "No access to non-default sound format profiles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178652
[23:36] <ubotu> New bug: #162682 in bluez-gnome "This package should be installed with gnome-bluetooth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162682
[23:41] <ubotu> New bug: #178653 in linux (main) "[Hardy] ATA resets 3 times before correctly activating" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178653


[09:23] <InformatiQ> good morning
[09:26] <noodles775> Morning InformatiQ :)
[09:29] <AskUbuntu> Installing and start using juju in ubuntu | http://askubuntu.com/q/380695
[09:30] <InformatiQ> this juju thing is threatning my job
[09:31] <noodles775> InformatiQ: heh - I was beginning to wonder when you sleep. I take it you're not yet able to use juju in your sysadmin roles?
[09:33] <InformatiQ> noodles775: i got excited about juju and was spending a few evening hours on it :)
[09:33] <InformatiQ> no i can't get it into my dayjob
[09:33] <InformatiQ> we are quite strict about what we use, change is not something that is liked around here
[09:33] <InformatiQ> and I still need to grasp it better
[09:34] <noodles775> Yep.
[09:41] <InformatiQ> noodles775: i get that you actuall do juju as dayjob
[09:42] <noodles775> InformatiQ: actually not... I do get to spend some time (probably around 15% of my time at the moment) working on the occasional charm, but that's about it. I'm just excited about juju+ansible :)
[09:43] <noodles775> Although, I do use juju in other work (like currently deploying openstack-swift+keystone using juju so I can work on some development stuff)
[10:38] <jamespage> marcoceppi, hey - I'm really struggling with the amulet package in the stable PPA
[10:38] <jamespage> its trying to run as python3 - is that right?
[10:47] <AskUbuntu> juju status machines 1 2 3 instance-id: pending forever | http://askubuntu.com/q/380716
[10:59] <AskUbuntu> OpenStack Havana with Juju/MAAS : no Quantum API server listening for requests | http://askubuntu.com/q/380718
[11:32] <marcoceppi> jamespage: yes, that's correct
[11:32] <jamespage> marcoceppi, the deps on the package are incorrect then
[11:32] <marcoceppi> jamespage: everyone scared me, saying trusty would come with py3 as default, so I figured I'd make amulet Python3
[11:32] <marcoceppi> I love messing up things
[11:33] <jamespage> I hit a syntax issue as well
[11:33] <jamespage> this was on saucy
[11:34] <marcoceppi> syntax error?
[12:17] <marcoceppi> jamespage: what syntax errors?
[12:18] <jamespage> marcoceppi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458233/
[12:19] <jamespage> marcoceppi, that might be me being dumb - hold the line
[12:20] <jamespage> yeah - the python3 thing was confusing me
[12:20] <jamespage> working OK now
[12:21] <marcoceppi> jamespage: cool, I'll have to figure out what I did wrong in packaging to get it to go to the proper python3 namespaces
[12:21] <marcoceppi> I'll fix that in the next release of amulet, should be coming out 2nd of dec
[12:24] <marcoceppi> jamespage: any suggestions? I followed what was on the appdev website: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/python-packaging.html#debian-rules
[12:24] <marcoceppi> jamespage: actually, I'll dig more myself and comeback if I can't figure it out
[12:24] <jamespage> marcoceppi, where is your packaging branch?
[12:24] <marcoceppi> jamespage: not uploaded, that would probalby help
[12:42] <marcoceppi> jamespage: lp:~marcoceppi/amulet/pkg I need to learn to use recipes, but that's the packaging I'm using
[12:44] <jamespage> marcoceppi, I don't think you should have moved to python3 - bzrlib does not support it yet
[12:45] <marcoceppi> jamespage: soo, I've made a mess
[12:45] <marcoceppi> jamespage: I'll pull back to py2 then
[12:45] <jamespage> marcoceppi, +1
[12:45] <marcoceppi> jamespage: thanks!
[12:46] <marcoceppi> makes packaging easier. I'll just do the future stuff for print, etc as to not undo all the work. I don't think I'm doing anything too terribly py3 specific
[15:26] <SuperMatt> marcoceppi: fyi, I've got my juju charm working, and now the relations are working perfectly! I'm sure I could have got this working yesterday, but I wasn't in the office :)
[15:48] <marcoceppi> SuperMatt: awesome! glad to see you've made progress
[15:48] <marcoceppi> How's it been so far?
[15:48] <marcoceppi> the whole charm thing
[15:49] <SuperMatt> I quite like it
[15:49] <SuperMatt> it's one of those things I could get in to
[15:55] <marcoceppi> SuperMatt: awesome!
[19:22] <InformatiQ> what's up guys
[19:24] <InformatiQ> this place is too quiet in general
[19:26] <sarnold> InformatiQ: the last week has been crazy for everyone, what with vUDS going on .. next week includes US federal holiday, so it may also be quieter than normal..
[19:26] <InformatiQ> so is everyone here US based?
[19:28] <sarnold> funny, I've never thought to ask :)
[19:28] <InformatiQ> heh
[19:41] <marcoceppi> InformatiQ: the Juju and Ecosystem team are spread out around the world
[19:42] <marcoceppi> we have members in the US, South America, Austrailia, and Europe


[07:28] <JonathanD> morning.
[07:48] <JonathanD> too early?
[08:18] <jackson_> o/
[09:10] <rmg51> JonathanD:  3:30 am is way too early for a general good morning
[09:10] <rmg51> only someone like andrew would be up at that hour
[09:10] <rmg51> MOrning :-D
[09:33] <JonathanD> Hi.
[09:35] <rmg51> o/
[09:36] <JonathanD> That better?
[09:40] <rmg51> yep
[09:41] <rmg51> it's still night before 5am ;-)
[09:41] <JonathanD> hah
[09:41] <JonathanD> my door didn't leak \o/
[09:42] <rmg51> I can't wait to get to work and bale out the basement (my work area) :P
[09:42] <JonathanD> does it get watered?
[09:43] <rmg51> before I left last night I pumped out 15 gallons
[09:43] <JonathanD> awesome.
[09:43] <JonathanD> I have a leaky basement door.
[09:44] <rmg51> we have a leaky basement wall
[09:45] <JonathanD> I tried to fix it over the weekend.
[09:46] <rmg51> brick it up =-O
[09:46] <JonathanD> well
[09:46] <JonathanD> it was actually nailed shut
[09:46] <JonathanD> and ow it isn't.
[09:46] <JonathanD> now
[09:47] <rmg51> put a roof over it
[09:49] <JonathanD> not so easy to do.
[09:50] <JonathanD> it's at the bottom of a flight of outdoor stairs, shared with the neighbor.
[09:51] <rmg51> tent?
[09:52] <rmg51> anything to keep the water out
[10:04] <JonathanD> tarp, maybe
[10:04] <JonathanD> But I'd rather fix the door.
[10:05] <JonathanD> for now, I built a brick wall in front of it with bricks and caulk.
[10:05] <JonathanD> which so far, is working.
[11:21] <waltman> morning
[11:24] <rmg51> o/
[11:24] <rmg51> time to head to work :P
[12:06] <InHisName> work?  someone really has a job ?
[12:07] <JonathanD> yes.
[12:07] <JonathanD> To the workmobile!
[12:11] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[12:11] <SamuraiAlba> Second day of classes LOL
[12:19] <teddy-dbear> morning
[16:58] <WiCkD1> hello
[17:00] <WiCkD1> where in PA is everyone?
[17:06] <JonathanD> I'm in bridgeport
[17:09] <jackson> Butler
[17:17] <InHisName> Warminster
[17:21] <ssweeny> Pittsburgh
[17:28] <jedijf> new jersey,pa
[17:31] <rmg51> N.E Philly at the moment
[17:31] <teddy-dbear> silly jedijf
[17:32] <jedijf> i'm waiting for pleia2's reply
[17:32] <pleia2> san francisco!
[17:32] <pleia2> :)
[18:10] <WiCkD1> Im in Allentown.
[18:25] <jedijf> WiCkD1: awesome! do you attend any LUGs?, or have you tried the hackerspace out that way?
[18:29] <waltman> Rosemont.
[18:29] <waltman> http://cupidtino.com/
[18:54] <InHisName> WiCkD1: we have a member here that is in Hellertown, not too far from you.
[19:09] <WiCkD1> sorry for long response time, Im at work, lol...and its my first time joining the group...so I havent attended anything yet.
[19:09] <WiCkD1> I'm still new to Ubuntu.
[22:24] <ChinnoDog> testing
[22:41] <InHisName> tested and then had to leave, hmmmmm
[23:56] <jedijf> welcome ChinnoDog
[23:56] <rmg51> welcome back ChinnoDog
[23:57] <ChinnoDog> hi. I'm not really here. I'm configuring ZNC
[23:57] <jedijf> back? you know this ChinnoDog person?
[23:57] <rmg51> I thought I did :-/
[23:58] <jedijf> leaving is lame
[23:58] <jedijf> not saying goodbye
[23:58] <jedijf> obituaries don't list nicks, so couldn't even send flowers
[23:59] <rmg51> and saying your not really here is even lamer
[23:59] <jedijf> or donations to pdpc which would have been better and more ironic